Turning on the lights and ready for a new thread.

Whew. lol

Is it safe?

Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked

My name is Honorary Yooper, and I am an LGF addict.

to practice whatever intellectual perversions they like

The penis mightier than the sword.

Stinkys' icing his arm from the last thread

re: #4 Shug

Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked

We've already seen two tonight.

re: #4 Shug

Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked

I'm sorry Shug .. I cant do that.

re: #3 Silvergirl

Is it safe?

Sure is, my Guard Unicorn is on duty...

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re: #4 Shug

Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked

Sorry Dave, I can't do that.
Daisy, Da - i --s --y, D ---a ---i...

re: #5 Honorary Yooper

My name is Honorary Yooper, and I am an LGF addict.

Hello, Honary Yooper.

OK, what's the over/under on the YECs getting pissy about the Arthur Clarke quote?

A new Thread revealed,
But slumber overtakes me.
Goodnight kind Lizards.

re: #5 Honorary Yooper

My name is Honorary Yooper, and I am an LGF addict.

it is now 1:24 AM.
I initially planned to log off at 11 PM . then at midnight.

i

re: #5 Honorary Yooper

My name is Honorary Yooper, and I am an LGF addict.

Hello, Honorary Yooper! My name is Sharmuta. Welcome to rehab.

Hoo boy. My finger was stuck on the new comments button.

Poking my head out of the shell to see if the bombs have stopped flying.

What is up with this place lately? I don't recall so many arguments and banhammerings even a month or two ago.

re: #13 Honorary Yooper

OK, what's the over/under on the YECs getting pissy about the Arthur Clarke quote?

Hopefully, they'll keep their fingers off the keyboard because Charles is taking no prisoners tonight.

Last thread was a massacre.

But I'm going to have to check back in tomorrow to see the bannings on this one - and I feel there will be many.

G'night, y'all.

Is there a Monitor Lizard for the overnight shift?

Written on a bathroom wall

A HAIKU
OMFG
ROFL
STFU Noob

NOT A HAIKU
WTF , mate?

re: #13 Honorary Yooper

Earlier this morning one them was claiming Clarke was a creationist. When asked for proof he said he'd google it and never came back.

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Earlier this morning one them was claiming Clarke was a creationist. When asked for proof he said he'd google it and never came back.

he's still looking for the missing link

re: #18 Athens Runaway

It happens sometimes.

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Earlier this morning one them was claiming Clarke was a creationist. When asked for proof he said he'd google it and never came back.

Proof and evidence leave these creationists out in the cold.

Thanks for the Interweb Algore.

re: #18 Athens Runaway

Poking my head out of the shell to see if the bombs have stopped flying.

What is up with this place lately? I don't recall so many arguments and banhammerings even a month or two ago.

Don't ya know? These are the *dah-dah-dah-doom* end times. Crawl under the table with me. :-)

Romans! Another thread!

Sleep well lizards.

One more Clarke comment on creationists:

"I have encountered a few "creationists" and because they were usually nice, intelligent people, I have been unable to decide whether they were really mad, or only pretending to be mad. If I was a religious person, I would consider creationism nothing less than blasphemy. Do its adherents imagine that God is a cosmic hoaxer who has created that whole vast fossil record for the sole purpose of misleading mankind?

And, although I do not necessarily agree with paleontologist Teilhard de Chardin's advocacy of evolution as a proof of the glory of God, de Chardin's attitude is both logical and inspiring. A creator who laid the foundations for the entire future at the beginning of time is far more awesome than a clumsy tinkerer who constantly modifies his creations and throws away entire species in the process."

And now, goodnight all.

re: #19 Wendya

Hopefully, they'll keep their fingers off the keyboard because Charles is taking no prisoners tonight.

You'd think a lot of them would have noticed all the trophies in the den. Nodrog over there is getting a little dusty.

re: #27 Silvergirl

Don't ya know? These are the *dah-dah-dah-doom* end times. Crawl under the table with me. :-)

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What a clever quote

re: #20 Noam Sayin'

Last thread was a massacre.

But I'm going to have to check back in tomorrow to see the bannings on this one - and I feel there will be many.

G'night, y'all.

Is there a Monitor Lizard for the overnight shift?

I did see a picture of a guard unicorn.

re: #34 Silvergirl

I did see a picture of a guard unicorn.

Guard unicorn has a face that would stop the heart of any troll...:)

I'm going to save that quote in case anyone tries to sneak creationism into our school. Not that it would have any effect on the YEC but it would give me a chuckle and a bit of encouragement.

Every time I think that I'm volunteering too much time at my daughters' school, something happens to remind me that I need to keep a close eye on what they are being taught.

I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?

re: #34 Silvergirl

I did see a picture of a guard unicorn.

Actually, that's for the brunch tomorrow.

re: #37 Rustler

I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?

Too many trolls to count. A true feast was had by all.

Leftovers are in the LGF room.

I'm getting weary myself. It's after midnight here so I'm going to check out. Goodnight all!

re: #37 Rustler

I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?

A good sized culling.

re: #38 Noam Sayin'

Actually, that's for the brunch tomorrow.

You ain't eating my Guard Unicorn...he was a pressie from the guberment...:)

/S

So does anyone else find it funny that the best program on Fox News nowadays isn't really a News Show but the Red Eye. So much for a Fair and Balanced Fox News. It's still the best of the lot but is rapidly throwing out all semblance of integrity.

re: #30 jaunte

I've often wondered about that. Why is it so easy for some people to believe that God created the fossil record as some kind of a hoax or test or something?

I encountered a preteen on Shelfari who spouted a lot of the creationist nonsense. I just felt sorry for her. She didn't even have a basic understanding of evolution; she just knew that it was completely wrong.

re: #16 Sharmuta

Thanks for listening earlier Sharmuta, I was conflicted over what to do with that information. I despise backstabbers, and I try to keep track of them.

I have a theory on why Glenn Beck said civil war. It's a short theory. I could be wrong.

re: #46 Gus 802

I have a theory on why Glenn Beck said civil war. It's a short theory. I could be wrong.

let's have it

re: #46 Gus 802 Post it :P stop being a tease.

re: #47 Shug

Well, I thought, perhaps, it might be racial. People will see it as "code."

re: #43 Rustler

I love Gutman!

His Gregalogue tonight about Tarantino being lazy by using a Nazi as the villain in his latest movie was brilliant. Greg suggested a terrorist would have been a better choice.

re: #8 Honorary Yooper
Who melted down tonight? I've been refereeing a 9 yr olds b-day melee.

re: #49 Gus 802
Kinda like a friend who said damn lawyers. Someone asked him why he said because I have to deal everyday with my neighbor who is a french canadian jewish tax lawyer. The he was accused of being an anti semite because he disliked his neighbor who went ahead and strived to achieve parity with a racial stereotype.

Was just a thought. Not like I'm sitting here gritting my teeth about it.

re: #53 Gus 802

Was just a thought. Not like I'm sitting here gritting my teeth about it.

Ok, I'll jump in. What's your theory?

re: #51 pingjockey

Who melted down tonight? I've been refereeing a 9 yr olds b-day melee.

Globalcluster went down hard. I missed what was said though.
A couple new guys went down along with a 5 year sleeper Moby.

re: #52 Rustler

Kinda like a friend who said damn lawyers. Someone asked him why he said because I have to deal everyday with my neighbor who is a french canadian jewish tax lawyer. The he was accused of being an anti semite because he disliked his neighbor who went ahead and strived to achieve parity with a racial stereotype.

Ah, right. See, can't say one way or the other. I kind of said something about attorneys the other night. Was just a fleeting comment on my part.

re: #27 Silvergirl

Don't ya know? These are the *dah-dah-dah-doom* end times. Crawl under the table with me. :-)

Gladly, ma'am. I survive this on a yearly basis, the End of the World is a walk in the park.

re: #24 Killgore Trout

It happens sometimes.

I suppose... I mean, I've gone through bits of politically-related gloom the last few weeks, but I haven't melted down. I just find it hard to believe that so many people on the right are melting down, but when I see meltdowns en masse like tonight or the Coulter kerfuffle or the Hannity hufflebaloo... it makes me wonder if there's something massively wrong here.

Remember: winners keep their heads when others are losing theirs.

re: #55 Idle Drifter
A 5 year sleeper? Wow.

re: #55 Idle Drifter

Globalcluster went down hard. I missed what was said though.
A couple new guys went down along with a 5 year sleeper Moby.

I lost track. Which one was that?

re: #54 Bobblehead

Ok, I'll jump in. What's your theory?

I was just wondering why he would say civil war. If anything the appropriate term would be revolution. Big mistake on his part to say civil war since it implies us fighting each other. I don't think that's what the outcome would be all about.

re: #45 MrPaulRevere

Thanks for listening earlier Sharmuta, I was conflicted over what to do with that information. I despise backstabbers, and I try to keep track of them.

No problem!

re: #37 Rustler

I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?

People lost it. Big-time.

Anyway, I was never one for alarmism regardless of the side.

re: #60 Gus 802

Not gonna be a civil war. Most of the Lefties hate guns, they don't allow them in their houses, don't teach their kids about them, etc. OR, if there is a civil war, it will be short.

re: #59 Silvergirl

I lost track. Which one was that?

I missed his name, he hurled an insult at Charles and was gone. I think he was registered for 5 years with a few comments. Sorry I'm a bit tired and the beer ain't helping so I could be mistaken and misread a comment. There were so many getting wacked over in the last thread I was like Whack a Mole. All of it over Glen Beck. Sheesh.

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

re: #61 Sharmuta

Sharm, someone has a spayshul message for you here.

re: #64 rawmuse

Not gonna be a civil war. Most of the Lefties hate guns, they don't allow them in their houses, don't teach their kids about them, etc. OR, if there is a civil war, it will be short.

Yep. And the Feds will win. Last time I checked those guys have a lot guns, choppers, A-10s, F-18s, and such.

re: #65 Idle Drifter

it was like Whack a Mole. PIMF

re: #66 Charles

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

Oh no! Say it ain't so. Not Steyn.

re: #64 rawmuse

Not gonna be a civil war. Most of the Lefties hate guns, they don't allow them in their houses, don't teach their kids about them, etc. OR, if there is a civil war, it will be short.

Clearly, Sir, you have not met my father. Although I'm not sure he would meet your definition of a lefty.

re: #37 Rustler

I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?

The Red Cross has put out a call for blood donation, for those with the rare Type L.

re: #37 Rustler

I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?

Some folks just can't take it when they see someone chip the gilding off their golden idol.

re: #66 Charles

Pardon my ignorance, is Pam Geller the Atlas Shrugged blog? Been there exactly once.

re: #64 rawmuse

Not gonna be a civil war. Most of the Lefties hate guns, they don't allow them in their houses, don't teach their kids about them, etc. OR, if there is a civil war, it will be short.

Now that the screaming has died down, though, what exactly was Beck predicting?

re: #66 Charles

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

You know, the first time I heard her open her mouth... Oh nevermind. Let's just say it reminded me of certain event in my families past.

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist
DOOM! Doom on you, me, everybody.

re: #71 SanFranciscoZionist

Clearly, Sir, you have not met my father. Although I'm not sure he would meet your definition of a lefty.

Well, the AK-47 WAS invented by a Lefty, come to think of it.
I was thinking of the "All We Are Saying Is Give Peace A Chance" types.

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

Now that the screaming has died down, though, what exactly was Beck predicting?

The sky is falling.

re: #3 Silvergirl

"Is it safe?"

"Yes it's safe, it's very safe, so safe you wouldn't believe it."

re: #76 Gus 802

You know, the first time I heard her open her mouth... Oh nevermind. Let's just say it reminded me of certain event in my families past.

I don't know who she is but it's starting not to sound good.

re: #68 Gus 802

Yep. And the Feds will win. Last time I checked those guys have a lot guns, choppers, A-10s, F-18s, and such.

You assume they would be willing to use them on their fellow Americans. Back in the 90's only about 25% of the military was willing to do so. There is no telling if the remaining 75% would try to stop them from doing so.

Actually, I was talking with an Obama voter last week. For 3.5 hours. He's more of a libertarian and a free thinker. Sceptic. Anyway, he talked up the stock up on food and arms aspect. Former USMC.

Some of the people I've defended against charges of being xenophobic did NOT deserve it.

re: #77 pingjockey

DOOM! Doom on you, me, everybody.

Oh. OK. Doom.

re: #16 Sharmuta

Hello, Honorary Yooper! My name is Sharmuta. Welcome to rehab.

My name is Syrah, . . .

I like her Amy Winhouuse's music.

Even if she creeps me out. There is something very Faustian about her.

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

Now that the screaming has died down, though, what exactly was Beck predicting?

Civil war.

re: #4 Shug

Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked

Who? I just got here.

re: #82 Hard Right

You assume they would be willing to use them on their fellow Americans. Back in the 90's only about 25% of the military was willing to do so. There is no telling if the remaining 75% would try to stop them from doing so.

I think if they see it as a matter of their own survival, they will shoot back. Perhaps not at first but eventually it would be a bloodbath and the government would win. Regardless.

Anyway, I was going to work on my family emergency plan this weekend, so I suppose the doom is another good reason. You know, that and the Impending Large Earthquake.

re: #74 pingjockey

i never liked "objectivism" anyway.

re: #88 Walter L. Newton

Who? I just got here.

Global Cluster is gone.

re: #66 Charles

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

Oh good grief.

re: #88 Walter L. Newton
That is a 5 buck tardy fee with a MMGW tax.

re: #87 rawmuse

Civil war.

I kind of got that, but between whom and whom?

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

I kind of got that, but between whom and whom?

Us and us.

re: #89 Gus 802

I think if they see it as a matter of their own survival, they will shoot back. Perhaps not at first but eventually it would be a bloodbath and the government would win. Regardless.

If ordered to attack other Americans, who knows whether or not they would.
If they are attacked I'm sure they would defend themselves and win. All I know is that if I saw an M1 Abrams parked in the street I would definitely leave it alone.

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

I kind of got that, but between whom and whom?

That was never extrapolated from the conversation. It was just willy nilly all over the place. You know, FoxNews, Glenn Beck.

Had a lot of sound effects and still images from foreign countries. A few from Katrina.

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

I kind of got that, but between whom and whom?

Had not figured that out yet. But, really, does it matter?

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

Class warfare, rich hiding in gated communities, gangs, military against civilians, collapse of civilization.

Oh, and 8000/ounce gold.

What did I forget?

re: #97 Hard Right

If ordered to attack other Americans, who knows whether or not they would.
If they are attacked I'm sure they would defend themselves and win. All I know is that if I saw an M1 Abrams parked in the street I would definitely leave it alone.

Same here. Or the ripping sound of a vulcan cannon? No thanks.

OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?

re: #101 Gus 802

Same here. Or the ripping sound of a vulcan cannon? No thanks.

Oooo. I would NOT want to be on the receiving end of that.

re: #94 pingjockey

That is a 5 buck tardy fee with a MMGW tax.

MMGW tax. I'm afraid to ask.

re: #80 Boxy_brown

"Yes it's safe, it's very safe, so safe you wouldn't believe it."

One of my top ten favorite films! Hoffman and Olivier could not have been better!

re: #66 Charles

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

*shaking head*

re: #102 rawmuse

OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?

Nope.

re: #100 pink freud

Oh yes, I left out that wild-eyed teetering-on-the-brink look Beck seems to have lately.

re: #103 Hard Right

Oooo. I would NOT want to be on the receiving end of that.

Yep, and then wind up on LiveLeak.

re: #104 Walter L. Newton
Man made global warming! Manbearpig tax! Did you have a show tonight?

re: #102 rawmuse

OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?

Atlas

re: #89 Gus 802

I think if they see it as a matter of their own survival, they will shoot back. Perhaps not at first but eventually it would be a bloodbath and the government would win. Regardless.

I do not wish to see our military men and women put in a position where they have to make that choice. That would be a disaster in itself.

Who the hell is this Geller woman? Yuri Gellers love child?

re: #102 rawmuse

OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?

Go for it. Everyone should at least once. It's like "Cowfee Tawlk" meets... I don't know... something.

///

re: #102 rawmuse

OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?

I think you should "shrug" that one off

re: #111 Walter L. Newton
Aha. I knew that name from somewhere. Visited that place exactly once.

re: #112 Bobblehead

I do not wish to see our military men and women put in a position where they have to make that choice. That would be a disaster in itself.

It would. We'll be OK. Ain't gonna happen. The left was babbling this crap after 911.

re: #109 Gus 802

Yep, and then wind up on LiveLeak.

No thanks.
I saw where an Apache hit a group of guys with it's 30mm gun. Messy.

Who... is pamela geller?! Where have you guys been? There was a thread on her last night for crying out loud! I love ya, but DAMN! Pay attention!

re: #102 rawmuse

OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?

A very intense woman with a blog named after an Ayn Rand novel, who wants to have Charles flogged.

re: #118 Hard Right

No thanks.
I saw where an Apache hit a group of guys with it's 30mm gun. Messy.

Yep, human chum.

re: #119 Sharmuta
Some of us ain't up late dear!

re: #117 Gus 802

It would. We'll be OK. Ain't gonna happen. The left was babbling this crap after 911.

There might be some assassinations, but I seriously doubt civil war is coming.

re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist

"who wants to have Charles flogged."

"Flogged"... like in the British navy in the 1800s. Who thinks like that?

re: #119 Sharmuta

Sorry, I've been busy, making a living, for a change. I will crack the thread.

re: #122 pingjockey

Some of us ain't up late dear!

It wasn't put up late at all. Doesn't anybody scroll down "below the fold"? There are days worth of threads on the front page at any given time.

Not to sound catty, but come on!

re: #117 Gus 802

It would. We'll be OK. Ain't gonna happen. The left was babbling this crap after 911.

Americans have a bad habit of defying predictions and behaving fairly well under pressure.

re: #123 Hard Right

There might be some assassinations, but I seriously doubt civil war is coming.

I doubt even that. There is that danger, considering. We have to remember to that this is a global challenge for the economy.

re: #126 Sharmuta
Thtttbbbrttt!

re: #110 pingjockey

Man made global warming! Manbearpig tax! Did you have a show tonight?

No. This is crossover week, last show ended last weekend, new show opens next week. The Visitor Sigmund Freud meets... god?

Vienna, 1938. The Nazis have invaded Austria and are persecuting the Jews. On this April evening, the Gestapo arrest his daughter Anna and take her for questioning. Freud remains alone and desperate when, suddenly, a stranger enters through the window. The visitor, a frivolous and cynical dandy in a tuxedo & top hat, has some incredible things to say. Who is he? A mad man? A magician? Is this merely a dream? Or is he really as he claims, God in person?

re: #84 Charles

From reading today's article, it appears to me that Steyn has fallen into a classic (and very common on these type of blogs and forums) logic trap - the false dilemma:

So what's the greater sin? That Miss Shaidle fails to draw a clear bright line between a generally observable phenomenon and a statistically 100% universal phenomenon? Or that even raising the generally observable phenomenon is now beyond the pale?

The problem here is... why must we consider a "greater", or lesser, sin worth rejecting but some other on the scale (of sins) not? One can readily reject both.

re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist

Americans have a bad habit of defying predictions and behaving fairly well under pressure.

That they do. Especially Americans and the rest of the world. A survival instinct takes over and it does not include going out and shooting people or starting a war with your neighbor.

The downfall of civilization has been way overrated for almost 2000 years.

re: #130 Walter L. Newton
That sounds cool! My high school senior is getting ready for Charlie and the Chocolate factory.

G'night all. Crawling under the bed now.

re: #133 pingjockey

That sounds cool! My high school senior is getting ready for Charlie and the Chocolate factory.

Hmmm... chocolate!

re: #128 Gus 802

I doubt even that. There is that danger, considering. We have to remember to that this is a global challenge for the economy.

Hopefully it won't happen. It certainly wouldn't help and would hurt those of us wanting to stop obama and the left.

re: #126 Sharmuta
Guilty as charged. I will check the days threads, but if the last comment is like an hour old I don't go read. My fault.

re: #84 Charles

Some of the people I've defended against charges of being xenophobic did NOT deserve it.

I don't know what to say except I'm sorry. This is very disappointing.

re: #135 Walter L. Newton
I am immune for a while now. Got the better half some of those Cadbury creme eggs! :)

Oh, dear. Public flogging of the head Lizard. Very bad.
OK, I got it.

re: #101 Gus 802

Same here. Or the ripping sound of a vulcan cannon? No thanks.

I've read and agree with some of John Ringo's Last Centurion. If there was a big catastrophe to beset the United States any local militia that would spring up would be out of necessity for law and order to help bring society back to normal. They would work with local law enforcement, National Guard Units and US military units considering their makeup would be and should be mainly former/retired military and law enforcement. Civil War would do nothing to help this country and ranks up there with zombie holocaust fantasies.

re: #136 Hard Right

Hopefully it won't happen. It certainly wouldn't help and would hurt those of us wanting to stop obama and the left.

Exactly, that would be massive PR loss dare I say. Now that's were we could face a logistical problem. If we allow this kind of talk people will think we're guilty by association. Fact I think.

re: #139 pingjockey

I am immune for a while now. Got the better half some of those Cadbury creme eggs! :)

Oooh, I guess those are in stores now.

One of the best things about living in England, you can get 'em year round.

re: #89 Gus 802 Problem is the military isn't there to protect the government the military was established to protect the constitution and that is what they swear to do. Not to blindly obey Obama but to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and Domestic"

OT, there is a puppy sprawled all over my side of the bed!

I decided some time ago that Glenn Beck is a silly person and quit watching him. There seems to be a sort of Gresham's Law at work in TV: Lose a Brit Hume and pick up a Glenn Beck. The trend consistently is down.

re: #141 Idle Drifter

I've read and agree with some of John Ringo's Last Centurion. If there was a big catastrophe to beset the United States any local militia that would spring up would be out of necessity for law and order to help bring society back to normal. They would work with local law enforcement, National Guard Units and US military units considering their makeup would be and should be mainly former/retired military and law enforcement. Civil War would do nothing to help this country and ranks up there with zombie holocaust fantasies.

Yes, or as I sometimes tell socialists, you'll just replace one set of lunatics with a far worse set of lunatics. In the end I'm pretty sure I'd wind up fighting with the Feds. Which is rather ironic.

re: #145 pingjockey

OT, there is a puppy sprawled all over my side of the bed!

I can actually feel my blood pressure going down after that last thread.

What kind of puppy?

re: #140 rawmuse

Oh, dear. Public flogging of the head Lizard. Very bad.
OK, I got it.

That's not all of it, but it's enough.

pamela geller

re: #143 SanFranciscoZionist
That should be against the law! Those things will make you sick, they are terribly addicting.

re: #66 Charles

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

Oh ffs... we are losing every voice of reason to insanity.

re: #123 Hard Right

There might be some assassinations, but I seriously doubt civil war is coming.

Waaay back before JFK's Dallas trip, the thought of an assassination was totally beyond our national imagination.
Now, it seems to be almost expected.

We've progressed, yah sure, yew betcha.

re: #144 Rustler

Problem is the military isn't there to protect the government the military was established to protect the constitution and that is what they swear to do. Not to blindly obey Obama but to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and Domestic"

Right, but that's why we have the SCOTUS, congress, lower courts, etc. Obama is president but he's not King.

Anyone in Palm Beach?

PBSO Plans To Draw Blood At DUI Checkpoints

re: #148 SanFranciscoZionist
Heinz 57. Sharpei, chocolate lab, and pit bull(maybe).

re: #142 Gus 802

Exactly, that would be massive PR loss dare I say. Now that's were we could face a logistical problem. If we allow this kind of talk people will think we're guilty by association. Fact I think.

I'd say fact based on historical precedent. The black helicopter crowd hurt us over time. People associated us with them because they were against Clinton and pro-gun.
I knew they would come back around if obama won. It took them longer than I expected to surface tho.

re: #149 Sharmuta
She is a Class A nutbar.

re: #138 Sharmuta

I don't know what to say except I'm sorry. This is very disappointing.

Disappointing indeed. I imagine it must feel a bit like finding out a long time friend or close relative is a bigot when you start dating a gal who belongs to a racial/religious group they disdain.

re: #150 pingjockey

That should be against the law! Those things will make you sick, they are terribly addicting.

The English have a serious sugar tolerance. I have never seen another group of people eat so much chocolate. They also drink whiskey at lunch. I mean, people who aren't alcoholics do this. It's disconcerting.

OTOH, after you've had unlimited access for a while, I find that they get less alluring. By the end of my time living in London I was pretty blase about the eggs, except when friends would come from California, and freak out, and then I would freak out all over again with.

re: #156 Hard Right

I'd say fact based on historical precedent. The black helicopter crowd hurt us over time. People associated us with them because they were against Clinton and pro-gun.
I knew they would come back around if obama won. It took them longer than I expected to surface tho.

Deja vu with the Ruby Ridge angle "all over again." I know. We have to be level headed and pragmatic.

re: #155 pingjockey

Heinz 57. Sharpei, chocolate lab, and pit bull(maybe).

Oh, cute. So a wrinkly face, or not?

re: #154 sngnsgt

having an epidemic of drunk drivers or something?

re: #159 SanFranciscoZionist
My wife is from Wales and if she's very good or I'm very bad I go to this Australian store in Leavenworth, Wa. and get her real English treats, makes her day it does.

re: #160 Gus 802

Deja vu with the Ruby Ridge angle "all over again." I know. We have to be level headed and pragmatic.

And make clear the ones talking civil war aren't with us. Sadly the left will use it to their advantage--again.

re: #153 Gus 802 I mentioned that because you talk about the military supporting Obama in this Fictional civil war of Beck's but if it occurs it will occur based on Obama raping the constitution and I doubt you will see most soldiers supporting the Govt in that endeavour.

re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist
Just around his mouth and a little on the neck.

re: #156 Hard Right

I'd say fact based on historical precedent. The black helicopter crowd hurt us over time. People associated us with them because they were against Clinton and pro-gun.
I knew they would come back around if obama won. It took them longer than I expected to surface tho.

The true blue, hard core black helicopter crowd are without political affiliation. That Jones character sees conspiracies no matter what party holds office.

re: #164 Hard Right

And make clear the ones talking civil war aren't with us. Sadly the left will use it to their advantage--again.

My guess is that Obama won't mess with the 2nd Amendment. We'll have to wait and see.

re: #163 pingjockey

My wife is from Wales and if she's very good or I'm very bad I go to this Australian store in Leavenworth, Wa. and get her real English treats, makes her day it does.

Flakes, Turkish Delight bars, anything by Cadbury, really...Jaffa cakes.

re: #166 pingjockey

Just around his mouth and a little on the neck.

Ohhh. I love dogs. Just discovered ipuppycan.com.

re: #165 Rustler

I mentioned that because you talk about the military supporting Obama in this Fictional civil war of Beck's but if it occurs it will occur based on Obama raping the constitution and I doubt you will see most soldiers supporting the Govt in that endeavour.

Not supporting Obama. But supporting law and order and their own safety. It would become a survival instinct.

re: #165 Rustler
The military does not support the gov't. It supports and defends the Constituition. If, God forbid, the sitting gov't tried to subborn the Constituition it would be the militaries duty to throw them out.

re: #167 Slumbering Behemoth

I consider Jones to be a complete menace. He personally inspired one guy to do harm to some pals of mine. The perp now sits in prison. Jones, however, is unrepentant.

re: #167 Slumbering Behemoth

The true blue, hard core black helicopter crowd are without political affiliation. That Jones character sees conspiracies no matter what party holds office.

Yup. They are loony. Back when I was teen working retail, I had one of them go of on a rant about how money was worthless because it wasn't backed by gold, "fraudbacks" and the tri-lateral commission and Bergermeisters. I just wanted to ring the guy up. Jeez.

re: #169 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeppers. That is the stuff.

re: #168 Gus 802 He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo this will waen the population off guns and make it easier for him to take them away. The there is the whole you have to turn in all old ammo and buy new ammo with tracing codes in it nonsense he's trying to push. Or do you assume hes gonna try to take the guns out of a well armed and equiped populace.

re: #170 SanFranciscoZionist

Ohhh. I love dogs. Just discovered ipuppycan.com.

ipuppyCAM.com. Sorry.

re: #172 pingjockey
That exactly what I said the post before that.

re: #176 Rustler

He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo ...

When did that start?

re: #176 Rustler

He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo this will waen the population off guns and make it easier for him to take them away. The there is the whole you have to turn in all old ammo and buy new ammo with tracing codes in it nonsense he's trying to push. Or do you assume hes gonna try to take the guns out of a well armed and equiped populace.

OK, well, I've always said they'd go after ammo. Don't look at me I'm just a plebe. The Nanny State will expand with these guys.

Answer:

My God, it's full of stars.

Question: What happens when lasik goes wrong?

If things weren't bad enough in England.

re: #178 Rustler
Well GMTA. I missed that. Took that oath 6 times. I just about had a fit when Obama and Roberts screwed up the oath for President.

re: #179 Walter L. Newton
Actually hasn't passed yet was passed down to congress and failed I think.

re: #168 Gus 802

My guess is that Obama won't mess with the 2nd Amendment. We'll have to wait and see.

If they are smart he won't until he gets a second term. I'm hoping he won't at all.
He could still do some things to hurt gun owners and keep it under the radar.
He could write an executive order banning imported part kits or ammo for example. Most people wouldn't hear about it or care.

re: #179 Walter L. Newton

When did that start?

Basically our sales tax on everything went to 8% as of today. Ammo is part of it. But, that's just the CA budget.

If you want to get an idea to where the liberals want to take America look at the UK, Australia, Oregon, California.

Posted this about the last thread.

OK -- when Charles starts in on Glenn Beck it is becoming too much. The Lizard army, if you agree with this, is about to be laid useless. Glenn is a person with high morals, high intellectual capability and the show he presented, replicated at hot air is simply a 'scenario' show. a what if? Recall, he's a talk show host, charged with getting ratings!

If you have not watched all three of the shows over at hot air (click on the link)...do not respond.

Glenn is simply trying to show us all how this may play out. He is on our side.

re: #176 Rustler

He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo this will waen the population off guns and make it easier for him to take them away. The there is the whole you have to turn in all old ammo and buy new ammo with tracing codes in it nonsense he's trying to push. Or do you assume hes gonna try to take the guns out of a well armed and equiped populace.

I haven't herad him push that. I have heard the owners of that company making the coded ammo you speak of push it.

re: #173 rawmuse

Geez, sorry to hear that. Hope your friends made out ok. And I agree, that guy is a menace.

re: #182 Bobblehead
That's fucking out of control intrusion. Sheesh what a mess. I'm surprised the island hasn't half sunk because Winston is spinning so fast.

re: #190 Slumbering Behemoth

The pals are fine, but they were lucky.

Blood tests would mean they're harvesting DNA samples. I think.

re: #187 Gus 802

If you want to get an idea to where the liberals want to take America look at the UK, Australia, Oregon, California Cuba.

re: #184 Rustler

Actually hasn't passed yet was passed down to congress and failed I think.

Then I'm confused. How could you make the statement "He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo..."

I can't even find anything that indicated that any bill went to congress?

re: #193 Gus 802

Maybe I'm just paranoid (probably) but I wondered about that, too.

re: #194 Killer Tomato

If you want to get an idea to where the liberals want to take America look at the UK, Australia, Oregon, California Cuba.

Ack! Really, probably so. Sean Pean and his pals. Might come down to it. I'm moving to the Philippines.

re: #165 Rustler

I doubt you will see most soldiers supporting the Govt in that endeavour.

Soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines will obey the commander in chief! we are not a third world country. Don't pretend to understand what the military might do, unless you were one of us.

re: #189 Hard Right

"A law that has just passed in California allows micro-tracing of bullets that have been discharged in a crime so that they can immediately be traced," said Obama. "This is something that California has passed over the strong objections of the NRA…That's the kind of common sense gun law that gun owners as well as victims of gun violence can get behind."

from here.

re: #195 Walter L. Newton

Should have adding trying to tax the hell not tax.

re: #195 Walter L. Newton

Then I'm confused. How could you make the statement "He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo..."

I can't even find anything that indicated that any bill went to congress?

I hadn't heard of that proposal even making it to Congress. Last I heard it was only on the state level and pushed by the company that makes the "coded" ammo. BTW, the company has multiple members that are known gun grabbers.

re: #186 calcajun

Basically our sales tax on everything went to 8% as of today. Ammo is part of it. But, that's just the CA budget.

Ok, but that is not a separate sales tax on ammo. That's not a bill passed to congress by the Obama administration. Nothing like this has happened yet.

And it makes no sense trying to imply that. It's not happened.

re: #196 Killer Tomato

Maybe I'm just paranoid (probably) but I wondered about that, too.

Sounds like it. It's like leaving an index finger print when you cash a check directly. It winds up straight with the Feds.

re: #198 soccerdad
I was one and it is the oath you swear to defend the Constitution not the nutjob running the Country.

re: #174 Hard Right

An elderly relative of mine has been going on about that whole gold backed dollar thing lately. I have no idea where she is getting this, as far as I know she gets all her news from the 700 Club. Is Robertson and Co. digging deeper into the troofer dirt?

re: #198 soccerdad
Only if the CinC is not abrogating his duty to the Constituition!

well, good night everybody.

oh, free science nerd tip, just in case anybody was fooled by those stupid acai berry/"total colon cleanse" web ads for weight loss...ex-lax will do the same thing for less money.

not that I recommend it or anything, but ex-lax is also manufactured by a real pharmaceutical company, so you will actually know what you are putting into your body.

re: #188 soccerdad

posted a reply...

re: #204 Rustler

I was one and it is the oath you swear to defend the Constitution not the nutjob running the Country.

A lot of people have taken that oath, and it does NOT expire, except when you do.

re: #201 Hard Right

I hadn't heard of that proposal even making it to Congress. Last I heard it was only on the state level and pushed by the company that makes the "coded" ammo. BTW, the company has multiple members that are known gun grabbers.

Then let's not be talking about ammo tax, bills in congress etc, when it hasn't happened.

re: #198 soccerdad
I think you need to do some research on what the Military is sworn to do before you try making a statement calling me out like that when you claim to be in hte military yourself.

re: #199 Rustler

from here.

That's CA for you. That's the only state I heard it passing in.

re: #188 soccerdad

OK -- when Charles starts in on Glenn Beck it is becoming too much. The Lizard army, if you agree with this, is about to be laid useless. Glenn is a person with high morals, high intellectual capability and the show he presented, replicated at hot air is simply a 'scenario' show. a what if? Recall, he's a talk show host, charged with getting ratings!

If you have not watched all three of the shows over at hot air (click on the link)...do not respond.

Glenn is simply trying to show us all how this may play out. He is on our side.

Glen has jumped the shark.

re: #202 Walter L. Newton He had his proposal written up in early January to supposedly push into Congress when he took office never saw it pass assume that if he did the work to write it up he submitted it once he took office, if it wasn't passed down I apoligize maybe he realized something like that day 1 would actually hurt him badly.

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

Then let's not be talking about ammo tax, bills in congress etc, when it hasn't happened.

Agreed.
CA going with it is concerning to me since several other states seem to follow their lead everytime they jump off the cliff.

"All enemies, foriegn and domestic". That means the military has the DUTY to replace the gov't if said gov't is shredding the constituition.

re: #204 Rustler

I was one and it is the oath you swear to defend the Constitution not the nutjob running the Country.

Well good on ya, and thanks for your service.

So where is the mechanism for our guys to decide who is a nutjob, etc.? No...as much as I despise BHO, (would not piss on him in a gutter to put him out if he was on fire) I think your rhetoric is harmful. do not begin to talk about rebellion within our military. Not gonna happen.

re: #202 Walter L. Newton

I know--that's why I qualified the statement. No one I know of has read through the Stimulus bill--Law, now-- to see what taxes are in there. There is no redacted version of which I know. I do anticipate a tax on ammo, much in the same vein as a "sin" tax on cigarettes and alcohol--which I'm sure will rise and will affect me a lot more than a tax on ammo. I tend to go through more Scotch than bullets.

re: #97 Hard Right

If ordered to attack other Americans, who knows whether or not they would.
If they are attacked I'm sure they would defend themselves and win. All I know is that if I saw an M1 Abrams parked in the street I would definitely leave it alone.

actually, the M-1 has many vulnerability issues, especially in the urban environment, although personally, i'd target the fuel tanker. %-)

(once an 11H, always an 11H. %-)

re: #212 Hard Right

That's CA for you. That's the only state I heard it passing in.

Not so.

20% in Los Angeles County receive public aid

One in five Los Angeles County residents -- nearly 2.2 million people -- are receiving public assistance payments or benefits, a level county officials say will rise significantly over the coming months as the fallout from the recession continues.

The percentage of people on county aid already equals the figure at the height of the 2001-03 recession and far exceeds the one in seven who needed help during the economic downturn in the early 1990s and the one in nine assisted in the collapse of the early 1980s.

/and people wonder why California is broke

re: #212 Hard Right
Yeah but Obama supported the bill and had as of about a week prior legislation to nationalize the CA serial tracking plan maybe someone told him it wouldn't work, but his intent was to put it to congress.

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

re: #218 calcajun

I know--that's why I qualified the statement. No one I know of has read through the Stimulus bill--Law, now-- to see what taxes are in there. There is no redacted version of which I know. I do anticipate a tax on ammo, much in the same vein as a "sin" tax on cigarettes and alcohol--which I'm sure will rise and will affect me a lot more than a tax on ammo. I tend to go through more Scotch than bullets.

Unless you're shooting at scotch bottles.

re: #220 rawmuse

Not so.

Hoax?

re: #219 redc1c4

actually, the M-1 has many vulnerability issues, especially in the urban environment, although personally, i'd target the fuel tanker. %-)

(once an 11H, always an 11H. %-)

I'll be holding the video camera while you do your thing.
//

re: #187 Gus 802

what's that supposed to mean?

Good evening, lizards. Just here for a few minutes and watching out for the self inflicted Iron Fist rule. Who in the hell is artkey and why is he/she downdinging the thread.

re: #223 Killer Tomato

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

"I do swear this in the name of my mother and my father and the deity of my choice..."

re: #225 Gus 802

Hoax?

According to the NRA, of which I am a member, it is not a law. Yet.

re: #217 soccerdad
I never advocated rebellion. I stated if Glenn beck's civil war occured it would be a result of Obama stomping on hte Constitution and it would not be the military's responsibility to support the Government in that case.

re: #227 schnapp

what's that supposed to mean?

It means you look at the precedents, the current regulations, the laws in place, etc.

re: #213 Walter L. Newton

Glen has jumped the shark.

No, Glen, like other conservative talk show hosts, is channeling Peter Finch's "Howard Beale". This is a mere ratings grab. The whole concept of Conservatism is in flux right now and everyone is grabbing for the reins.

Good night all. I just got an email I was waiting for, and now it's time to tuck in.

re: #198 soccerdad

Soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines will obey the commander in chief! we are not a third world country. Don't pretend to understand what the military might do, unless you were one of us.

i seem to remember something about "legal" and illegal" orders...

re: #230 rawmuse

According to the NRA, of which I am a member, it is not a law. Yet.

OK. Yeah, you have to look out for that sort of thing.

re: #235 redc1c4
Oh yeah. Try to explain that mess to a buncha teenagers.

Good night all.

Somebody show me the way to go home. I'm tired and I want to go to bed...

re: #220 rawmuse

Not so.

Thanks for the info. I follow this type of thing and hadn't heard it passing anywhere. They have been trying in various states, tho

re: #198 soccerdad

I swore to protect the constitution, not the CnC.

Following orders is not an acceptable excuse for stupidity.

re: #224 Walter L. Newton

Unless you're shooting at scotch bottles.

How did you know I go shooting and empty the Scotch bottle in one event. It is a sin to shoot a full one.

Fact checking is not one of our strong points.

re: #91 schnapp

i never liked "objectivism" anyway.

please don't get the impression that Pamela Geller is a good representative of objectivism. I'm pretty sure an objectivist would know not to compromise with neo-nazis. I remember going hopefully to her blog and feeling woefully mislead by the title.

re: #238 Idle Drifter

I think we need a bigger boat.

re: #238 Idle Drifter

LOL My dad used to play that on the ukeleli (sp?)

re: #235 redc1c4

i seem to remember something about "legal" and illegal" orders...

Good luck making that judgement re:bho. It will take a pretty obtuse order from BHO to make our boys 'take a stand'.

re: #232 Gus 802
well the index of economic freedom places australia higher than the US, so i don't know what you mean by that.

re: #242 Gus 802

Fact checking is not one of our strong points.

Actually, this used to be known as the site that 'fact checked your ass'.

re: #129 pingjockey

Thtttbbbrttt!

You rang?

P.S. You spell worse than Rugby.

re: #247 schnapp

well the index of economic freedom places australia higher than the US, so i don't know what you mean by that.

My comment was in reference to gun rights.

Man I hate that almost anything gun or ammo related is auto blocked at work which makes it hard to find and link the info I'd like to.

PROPOSED VEHICLE MILES-TRAVELED (VMT) TAX - in addition to today's gasoline tax.

A blue-ribbon national transportation commission is expected to release a report next week recommending a VMT tax.

The system would require all cars and trucks be equipped with global satellite positioning technology, a transponder, a clock and other equipment to record how many miles a vehicle was driven, whether it was driven on highways or secondary roads, and even whether it was driven during peak traffic periods or off-peak hours.

The device would tally how much tax motorists owed depending upon their road use. Motorists would pay the amount owed when it was downloaded, probably at gas stations at first, but an alternative eventually would be needed.

Rob Atkinson, chairman of the National Surface Transportation Infrastructure Financing Commission, the blue-ribbon group that is developing future transportation funding options, said moving to a national VMT tax would take about a decade.

Next will be the air you breathe, the water you drink, and the amount of keystrokes you type each day. (However, you'll get a tax break for watching more than 5 hours of television each day.)

"Look into my eyes, you are getting sleepy..."
.

re: #248 Killer Tomato

Actually, this used to be known as the site that 'fact checked your ass'.

We still do, but it is late.
In fact, this lizard is calling it a night. Goodnight lizards and don't get to close to the porch light. It is very hot.

re: #249 Throbert McGee
Mwahaha! I was giving Sharmuta a raspberry!

re: #248 Killer Tomato

Actually, this used to be known as the site that 'fact checked your ass'.

Yep, Dan Rather and CBS. I saw him once.

Night gang!

re: #246 soccerdad Sorta like telling Soldiers to kill their fellow citizens for supporting the Constitution rather than the president?

re: #231 Rustler

I never advocated rebellion. I stated if Glenn beck's civil war occured it would be a result of Obama stomping on hte Constitution and it would not be the military's responsibility to support the Government in that case.

ok - then I stand down. Apologize if I misconstrued your post. I almost resigned my commission under Bill. I effing HATE liberals and all they stand for.

G'night folks.

re: #242 Gus 802

Fact checking is not one of our strong points.

LGF is the blog that fact checks your ass, but Heaven forbid we fact check one of our own and have integrity.

re: #226 Hard Right

I'll be holding the video camera while you do your thing.
//

good: they're more likely to shoot the guy with the camera, since, from a distance, it looks like an RPG or similar weapon... i'll be a few blocks away, cutting off the fuel supply, because once that gas hog burns up what's in the tanks, it's a very expensive, poorly located pill box. HEMMET trucks, otoh, are soft targets. logistics is the ball and chain of armored warfare.

re: #257 Rustler

Sorta like telling Soldiers to kill their fellow citizens for supporting the Constitution rather than the president?

Like I said...good luck. In the scenario you present...clearly a fairly easy call.

re: #243 dmjboose

my comment wasn't really related to the thread so i shouldn't have posted it. objectivism just doesn't appeal to me. not being personal or anything. it didn't have anything to do with geller.