Open Oscar Thread
I gotta be honest. My interest in the Academy Awards approaches absolute zero. But I know I’m in the minority, so here’s an open thread for the lizard army to dish…
I gotta be honest. My interest in the Academy Awards approaches absolute zero. But I know I’m in the minority, so here’s an open thread for the lizard army to dish…
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Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:58:46pm |
I actually enjoyed 'em, to my own surprise. I like the new format, with previous winners giving a little address about current nominees.
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solomonpanting Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:59:39pm |
My interest in the Academy Awards approaches absolute zero Obama.
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So? Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:00:00pm |
re: #1 Timbre
Defiance!
That movie was so Hollywoodized. It looked like the actor who plays James Bond walked off the James Bond set to do a scene here and there in this movie. The casting was terrible.
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:00:03pm |
Has Al Gore or President Obama won anything yet?
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Shug Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:00:06pm |
I watched the last 10 minutes of it and I wish I could get them back
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Max Darkside Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:00:38pm |
I got an Oscar once. Put it into a tank and fed it earthworms. Got pretty big. A lot more interesting to watch than them Holliwoodie elites stroken themselves on TV.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:00:47pm |
Do I have the go-ahead to repeat my comment here?
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:01:16pm |
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CynicalConservative Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:01:24pm |
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Sharmuta Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:01:29pm |
I only look at red carpet pictures on the internet to see the gowns.
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Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:01:39pm |
Gran Torino was the best movie I have seen this year. Slumdog is a good movie though.
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Silvergirl Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:01:50pm |
re: #5 Dar ul Harb
Has Al Gore or President Obama won anything yet?
They've won over the hearts of the crowd in attendance at the awards.
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:01:50pm |
re: #2 Cognito
I actually enjoyed 'em, to my own surprise. I like the new format, with previous winners giving a little address about current nominees.
But how can you stand to watch all those shallow fawning people fawning over all of those shallow fawning people?
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CynicalConservative Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:02:54pm |
re: #17 pink freud
But how can you stand to watch all those shallow fawning people fawning over all of those shallow fawning people?
Sounds like the MSM on a daily basis.
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Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:03:10pm |
re: #17 pink freud
But how can you stand to watch all those shallow fawning people fawning over all of those shallow fawning people?
I can't. It's annoying. But among them, there are scattered a handful of wonderfully talented people.
A handful, as I say.
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So? Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:03:10pm |
re: #6 Shug
I watched the last 10 minutes of it and I wish I could get them back
Don't sit on the toilet seat so long next time, that's should help you recoup your 10 minutes.
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Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:03:26pm |
re: #17 pink freud
But how can you stand to watch all those shallow fawning people fawning over all of those shallow fawning people?
Don't forget the self-important, puffed up and pretentious people too
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:03:30pm |
The only reason I ever watch the Oscars is so I know which movies NOT to watch.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:03:37pm |
Oscar ain't wearin' no pants.
/check it out
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KingKenrod Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:03:37pm |
I thought the long introductions with multiple presenters for the main awards were terrible. Totally unnecessary.
Jackman was a good host, but I like him and find Australian accents amusing, so I might be biased.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:03:45pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:03:52pm |
I celebrate the fact that I have not seen a single movie nominated for an Oscar. W00t!
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:04:12pm |
re: #10 Jr ewing
Sean Penn won for best actor..
Wasn't he supposed to leave the United States if Bush got elected? I'm still waiting for the big move. LOL Bet Chavez would roll out the carpet for him.
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Silvergirl Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:04:39pm |
re: #17 pink freud
But how can you stand to watch all those shallow fawning people fawning over all of those shallow fawning people?
I don't know about Cognito, but I'm a people watcher. Shallow, fawning, whatever. It's just an awards show. C'mon.
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So? Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:04:45pm |
The thread is about the Oscars, not Sean Penn. Once is enough.
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FrogMarch Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:04:50pm |
I couldn't watch Sean Penn. did he say something about Obama? Universal Health care? His love for communists? Our new brave world?
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Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:04:51pm |
re: #27 KingKenrod
I thought the long introductions with multiple presenters for the main awards were terrible. Totally unnecessary.
Jackman was a good host, but I like him and find Australian accents amusing, so I might be biased.
He should have worn the Wolverine Outfit and threatened to slice up anyone that went on too long.
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CynicalConservative Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:04:52pm |
re: #30 Pvt Bin Jammin
Wasn't he supposed to leave the United States if Bush got elected? I'm still waiting for the big move. LOL Bet Chavez would roll out the carpet for him.
Typical hollywood, all talk, fake action.
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Ward Cleaver Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:05:08pm |
I gotta be honest. My interest in the Academy Awards approaches absolute zero. But I know I’m in the minority, so here’s an open thread for the lizard army to dish...
I watched it only to bash it.
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Lynn B. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:05:20pm |
re: #11 CynicalConservative
100% agree Charles.
Forgot all about it.
Except I am wondering what won the best "foreign language" film. Did the Israel-bashing Israeli film (which I understand is very good) make the cut?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:05:30pm |
re: #2 Cognito
I actually enjoyed 'em, to my own surprise. I like the new format, with previous winners giving a little address about current nominees.
So did I. It gave more reasons to watch and it said more about acting in general.
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Silvergirl Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:05:32pm |
re: #26 Killian Bundy
Oscar ain't wearin' no pants.
/check it out
Well heck, that alone is why I watch.
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USBeast Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:05:35pm |
Hollywood continues to show it's complete and utter contempt for its public. I may get hammered for this comment but I believe that had Keith Ledger not died he would not have won.
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:05:35pm |
re: #28 TheMatrix31
Maybe I should have searched the comments first...
(I'd like to re-order those remarks.)
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rhythman Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:05:55pm |
I loved Gran Torino. Clint Eastwood deserves so much recognition for his body of work.
Sean Penn, please. "Puke" is just too kind. Fuck Sean Penn is much better indeed.
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Gus Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:06:03pm |
The Oscars: the largest gathering of self congratulatory materialists patronizing each other with pandering rhetoric while pretending to be altruistic non-materialist demigods working for the greater good of mankind.
To that which the Americans respond with idol worship.
Sorry, can't watch.
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oh_dude Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:06:04pm |
I agree with Charles. Snooze-fest. Just a bunch of idealogs patting themselves on the back for three hours.
Remeber way back when these people would simply be court jesters?
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CynicalConservative Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:06:08pm |
re: #37 Lynn B.
Forgot all about it.
Except I am wondering what won the best "foreign language" film. Did the Israel-bashing Israeli film (which I understand is very good) make the cut?
I only know about it due to discussions here. No clue about specific details at that level.
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stevieray Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:06:36pm |
Hollywood is boring. They preach only to the choir nowadays. They aren't a force for good anymore, like back in the days of "To Kill A Mockingbird" or "Gentleman's Agreement"... heck, they can't even make good movies about anti-heroes like they did back in the seventies. Preachy PC enviro flapdoodle.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:06:41pm |
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:06:45pm |
Speaking of movies, I watched 'Flight 93' on youtube tonight, powerful stuff.
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Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:06:47pm |
re: #40 USBeast
Hollywood continues to show it's complete and utter contempt for its public. I may get hammered for this comment but I believe that had Keith Ledger not died he would not have won.
He gave a really good performance in Dark Knight. That was the creepiest bad guy since Hannibal Lector
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6pat6 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:06:51pm |
Was the annual Hollywood whine-and-cheese fest tonight?
Hollywood sucks.
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solomonpanting Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:07:10pm |
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Shug Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:07:12pm |
Did Sean Penn go to Venezuala to do background research on politically motivated murders?
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:07:12pm |
re: #31 Silvergirl
I don't know about Cognito, but I'm a people watcher. Shallow, fawning, whatever. It's just an awards show. C'mon.
I'm a people watcher also. That's just one population that didn't make the cut.
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Silvergirl Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:07:24pm |
re: #37 Lynn B.
Forgot all about it.
Except I am wondering what won the best "foreign language" film. Did the Israel-bashing Israeli film (which I understand is very good) make the cut?
Foreign language film
WINNER: "Departures," Japan
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:07:30pm |
Open Oscar Thread
Whats next, an open Big Bird Thread?
//
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Ward Cleaver Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:08:02pm |
re: #44 Gus 802
The Oscars: the largest gathering of self congratulatory materialists patronizing each other with pandering rhetoric while pretending to be altruistic non-materialist demigods working for the greater good of mankind.
To that which the Americans respond with idol worship.
Sorry, can't watch.
I think the media, especially the gossip shows, fuel the whole celebrity worship thing.
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Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:08:10pm |
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jorline Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:08:11pm |
Now I forgot what I wrote about Sean Penn that was deleted.
I think it had the word fuck in it.
Sorry about that Charles.
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6pat6 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:08:11pm |
Hollywood. Filled with people that think they matter. I'll pass, thanks.
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Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:08:42pm |
re: #38 Dark_Falcon
So did I. It gave more reasons to watch and it said more about acting in general.
Exactly. I don't care a whit for some actor's thoughts on health care.
But hey. I'm interested in what Philip Seymour Hoffman might have to say about acting.
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USBeast Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:08:51pm |
re: #51 Desert Dog
He gave a really good performance in Dark Knight. That was the creepiest bad guy since Hannibal Lector
Agreed, but would he have won had he not achieved martyr status?
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:08:58pm |
re: #58 sattv4u2
Open Oscar Thread
Whats next, an open Big Bird Thread?
//
Hey Fred, get a look at the drum sticks on this one...:)
/S
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:09:04pm |
another year of not contributing to HollyWad...feeling pretty good here..Josey Wales was on TV last night...I was glued
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CynicalConservative Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:09:11pm |
re: #56 ploome hineni
lol
it's called the movies
/fiction
Too bad some of them forget the line between their jobs and the real world.
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:09:30pm |
re: #47 ploome hineni
cause most of them look really good
Looking good didn't make the cut either.
Good evening, ploome! Nice to see you. :-)
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stevieray Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:09:36pm |
re: #63 Shug
Was Fitna nominated?
/
Yeah... for "Best Heavy Metal Act".
/whoops. wrong waste of time award show.
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So? Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:09:36pm |
re: #44 Gus 802
The Oscars: the largest gathering of self congratulatory materialists patronizing each other with pandering rhetoric while pretending to be altruistic non-materialist demigods working for the greater good of mankind.
To that which the Americans respond with idol worship.
Sorry, can't watch.
It's like any other awards show given by any industry, advertising, magazines, architecture, horsehoe makers/ Ask anyone who HAS to attend those wonderful ceremonies and you'll get the same "puke" reaction. It's just self -masturbatory promotion and it goes on everywhere. Just Hollywood puts out movies that millions go watch. So they tune in.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:09:37pm |
re: #51 Desert Dog
He gave a really good performance in Dark Knight. That was the creepiest bad guy since Hannibal Lector
Indeed. For my money The Dark Knight got jipped. It was better than most of the Best Picture Nominees.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:09:46pm |
Back in my theatre days, right about now we'd be readying the snipes to add to the movie posters. We, of course, also made outtake snipes.
/winner of . . . awards for . . . best . . . [use your imagination]
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:09:47pm |
Did Pineapple Express win for anything?
Best stoner movie?
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Lynn B. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:10:03pm |
re: #46 CynicalConservative
I only know about it due to discussions here. No clue about specific details at that level.
Well, I see that it didn't win. Tough choice for the academy. On the one hand, it was anti-war and (from what I understand) blamed Israel for the Sabra and Shatilla massacres. OTOH, it was an Israeli film.
Not surprised that they just ducked.
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Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:10:05pm |
re: #65 USBeast
Agreed, but would he have won had he not achieved martyr status?
I did not see the other movies, so I cannot tell. I know he was great in that role though...
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FrogMarch Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:10:14pm |
re: #68 albusteve
another year of not contributing to HollyWad...feeling pretty good here..Josey Wales was on TV last night...I was glued
Hollywad!
Finally after years - it's spreading. ;-)
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:10:25pm |
re: #63 Shug
In the Hollywood of the Star Trek Mirror Universe maybe.
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:10:26pm |
re: #2 Cognito
I actually enjoyed 'em, to my own surprise. I like the new format, with previous winners giving a little address about current nominees.
I will agree. I watched the whole thing for the first time in years. Saw a couple of buds in the orchestra, too. As an aside, my house is visible in "Milk". I remember posting about the shoot when it was happening last year. Caught a nice rash about it from some flamers, too.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:10:34pm |
re: #73 Dark_Falcon
Indeed. For my money The Dark Knight got jipped. It was better than most of the Best Picture Nominees.
Which is why I didn't care about the Oscars except for Ledger, and Rourke.
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Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:10:57pm |
re: #68 albusteve
another year of not contributing to HollyWad...feeling pretty good here..Josey Wales was on TV last night...I was glued
Now THAT is a movie...and, if I recall, it was nominated and won exactly ZERO academy awards...
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Steffan Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:11:02pm |
The only thing I like about the Oscars lately is the snarky reviews of what the women wore to the event.
I make a point of not watching the awards telecast. I have also not seen any of the films mentioned in any category this year -- the last movie I saw in an actual theater was Starship Troopers (yuk). The last one before that was The Rocky Horror Picture Show, when they still did the midnight show in Riverside. I have the Audience Participation DVD. I'm happy.
Hollywood has not done anything I want to watch in a very long time.
They need a reminder that what plays in Peoria is more important than they realize.
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cowbellallen Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:11:09pm |
Highlights of the night:
Pineapple Express clip
Ben Stiller acting like Joaquin Phoenix on Letterman
Boob popping out during musical performance
Sean Penn ranting about people who voted against Prop 8
Sean Penn not thanking his super hot wife
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Ward Cleaver Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:11:23pm |
re: #68 albusteve
another year of not contributing to HollyWad...feeling pretty good here..Josey Wales was on TV last night...I was glued
I saw Beverly Hills Chihuahua in the theater last year, and that was it.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:11:24pm |
re: #79 FrogMarch
Hollywad!
Finally after years - it's spreading. ;-)
typically, I'm leading from behind!
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:11:27pm |
re: #68 albusteve
another year of not contributing to HollyWad...feeling pretty good here..Josey Wales was on TV last night...I was glued
Sorry, but if it was on cable/ satellite/ you DID contribute to Hollywood. The distributors (owners of the films rights) are mostly studios or the compant that owns them ( i.e. Paramount Distributors, owned by Paramount Pictures)
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Silvergirl Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:12:44pm |
re: #85 cowbellallen
Highlights of the night:
Pineapple Express clip
Ben Stiller acting like Joaquin Phoenix on Letterman
Boob popping out during musical performance
Sean Penn ranting about people who voted against Prop 8
Sean Penn not thanking his super hot wife
See? Not aren't you naysayers all sorry?
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:13:04pm |
re: #89 sattv4u2
Sorry, but if it was on cable/ satellite/ you DID contribute to Hollywood. The distributors (owners of the films rights) are mostly studios or the compant that owns them ( i.e. Paramount Distributors, owned by Paramount Pictures)
well I guess you missed the point...thanks for the tech skinny tho
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:13:04pm |
re: #82 TheMatrix31
Which is why I didn't care about the Oscars except for Ledger, and Rourke.
I cared a little about Best Picture. I did so because for the first time since LotR the award actually went to a movie with public appeal. Slumdog Millionaire is a movie that may actually end up remembered.
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zombie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:13:39pm |
I foolishly said on a previous thread that Milk was going to rack up the Oscars, because "gayness" has the highest priority rating among PC Oscar-magnet themes, surpassing "prostitute with a heart of gold" and "Nazis."
Well, someone just told me that "Slumdog Millionaire" has Muslim characters -- and it beat Milk for Best Picture!
So we now have a new champion in the PC sweepstakes!
The new hierarchical ranking of themes-that-guarantee-Oscars are:
Muslims
gayness
Nazis/Holocaust
prostitutes-with-a-heart-of-gold
anti-war
"gimps" and "the disabled"
actors that died the previous year or are on their death beds...
...help me out here. Any other PC categories for winning Academy Awards?
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Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:13:43pm |
re: #87 Ward Cleaver
I saw Beverly Hills Chihuahua in the theater last year, and that was it.
I have a 9 year old, I see every kiddie movie that comes...Oh well, some of them turn out to be pretty good. And, some are unbearable.
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Steffan Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:13:43pm |
re: #30 Pvt Bin Jammin
Wasn't he supposed to leave the United States if Bush got elected? I'm still waiting for the big move. LOL Bet Chavez would roll out the carpet for him.
That was Alec Baldwin. He wimped out, as usual.
You'd think at least one of those wusses would have the courage of their convictions.
We can dream, right?
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:13:44pm |
re: #87 Ward Cleaver
I saw Beverly Hills Chihuahua in the theater last year, and that was it.
how much did you drop on that?
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:13:48pm |
Plus, tonight I found out that Queen Latifa can really sing. I mean like a real standard ballad. She did a fine job.
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Gus Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:13:55pm |
re: #81 rawmuse
I will agree. I watched the whole thing for the first time in years. Saw a couple of buds in the orchestra, too. As an aside, my house is visible in "Milk". I remember posting about the shoot when it was happening last year. Caught a nice rash about it from some flamers, too.
That's cool. Sorry about the "rash." I can imagine how tough those MIT grads were.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:13:55pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:13:58pm |
re: #81 rawmuse
I will agree. I watched the whole thing for the first time in years. Saw a couple of buds in the orchestra, too. As an aside, my house is visible in "Milk". I remember posting about the shoot when it was happening last year. Caught a nice rash about it from some flamers, too.
I thought they were pretty good this year myself. Hope my background singer buddy got the gig again. He always has. You never see him, he has to wear a tux but sit in a little closet studio type thing offstage or underground somewhere.
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darkster2400 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:13:58pm |
i agree - who cares - spent the evening reading Power Faith & Fantasy by Michael Oren - much better use of time IMHO
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:14:05pm |
I really don't care to watch Hollywood praise Hollywood. One movie I thought was surprisingly good and historically accurate was Valkyrie. Didn't even get a nomination.
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So? Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:14:13pm |
re: #82 TheMatrix31
Which is why I didn't care about the Oscars except for Ledger, and Rourke.
I think Ledger and Rourke sucked. Too cliché for me. Rourke sounded like Rocky Balboa. Ledger's act got tiresome after 10 minutes. Don't see what all the fuss was about. Seems death raises your Karma points a few notches. Reminds me of Jim Croce, the singer. Never heard of him, never knew anybody who liked his music. But after hus death he was #1 in the charts. Sheeeple.
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Shug Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:14:34pm |
re: #94 zombie
I foolishly said on a previous thread that Milk was going to rack up the Oscars, because "gayness" has the highest priority rating among PC Oscar-magnet themes, surpassing "prostitute with a heart of gold" and "Nazis."
Well, someone just told me that "Slumdog Millionaire" has Muslim characters -- and it beat Milk for Best Picture!
So we now have a new champion in the PC sweepstakes!
The new hierarchical ranking of themes-that-guarantee-Oscars are:
Muslims
gayness
Nazis/Holocaust
prostitutes-with-a-heart-of-gold
anti-war
"gimps" and "the disabled"
actors that died the previous year or are on their death beds......help me out here. Any other PC categories for winning Academy Awards?
dead people
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:14:42pm |
re: #92 albusteve
well I guess you missed the point...thanks for the tech skinny tho
I got the point. But by thinking that NOT going to a movie theater and seeing a first run Hollywood film means you are somehow boycotting Hollywood is incorrect
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:14:47pm |
re: #91 FrogMarch
Gran Torino was snubbed. Mo-F-Kars
No surprise. Clint Eastwood told truths in that movie that most of Hollywood does not want to hear. The idea that evil must be met with armed force is anathema to them.
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USBeast Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:14:50pm |
I'm out'a here. Gotta go vehicle shopping in the morning. Wish me luck.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:15:31pm |
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that we had a dowsing meltdown today.
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traderjoe9 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:15:31pm |
re: #4 So?
That movie was so Hollywoodized. It looked like the actor who plays James Bond walked off the James Bond set to do a scene here and there in this movie. The casting was terrible.
That movie was excellent in one respect - it showed (for once) that the people living in the territories occupied by Germany were more than happy to capture and hunt Jews for the Nazis.
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So? Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:15:38pm |
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zombie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:15:39pm |
This year, I managed to not see a SINGLE film that was nominated in any category. So I have absolutely no opinion about any of them.
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:15:40pm |
re: #40 USBeast
Hollywood continues to show it's complete and utter contempt for its public. I may get hammered for this comment but I believe that had Heath Ledger not died he would not have won.
Well, his Joker went to a whole different place than Nicholson's. Would the performance have gotten the same attention if he hadn't died? I don't know, but in watching the movie I wasn't thinking about Heath Ledger. (Of course, I think the last role I saw him in before was in The Patriot.)
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Gearhead Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:15:45pm |
re: #85 cowbellallen
Boob popping out during musical performance
Right in the middle of the song, Alec Baldwin suddenly appeared...
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:15:58pm |
re: #94 zombie
Kate Winslet won best actress for being a naked Nazi. She did double duty to hedge her bets.
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solomonpanting Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:16:02pm |
re: #94 zombie
...help me out here. Any other PC categories for winning Academy Awards?
America bashers.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:16:04pm |
re: #84 Steffan
The only thing I like about the Oscars lately is the snarky reviews of what the women wore to the event.
The only thing I care about from the AAs really is which moonbats said what asinine remarks about Republicans, American Foreign Policy, or Corporations acting all "Corporationy". So I can point and laugh and make smart-ass comments about it here and elsewhere.
The last movie I watched in the theater was at least 3 years ago. I'm not too keen on giving those Blame-America-First commies any of my money. (They will figure out some way to steal it from me anyway)
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:16:43pm |
re: #98 rawmuse
Plus, tonight I found out that Queen Latifa can really sing. I mean like a real standard ballad. She did a fine job.
OMG I have had her jazz standards CD for a couple of years. She's great. My husband didn't want to listen to it because he thought she was a rapper. I just turned it on one night in the car and he had to ask who the great singer was. LOL
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:17:06pm |
re: #110 Charles
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that we had a dowsing meltdown today.
I just watched Randy's video moments ago. In awhile I'm going to read the thread for entertainment. To save me some time at around what post # do the meltdowns start?
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Shug Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:17:11pm |
re: #94 zombie
I foolishly said on a previous thread that Milk was going to rack up the Oscars, because "gayness" has the highest priority rating among PC Oscar-magnet themes, surpassing "prostitute with a heart of gold" and "Nazis."
Well, someone just told me that "Slumdog Millionaire" has Muslim characters -- and it beat Milk for Best Picture!
So we now have a new champion in the PC sweepstakes!
The new hierarchical ranking of themes-that-guarantee-Oscars are:
Muslims
gayness
Nazis/Holocaust
prostitutes-with-a-heart-of-gold
anti-war
"gimps" and "the disabled"
actors that died the previous year or are on their death beds......help me out here. Any other PC categories for winning Academy Awards?
I have a new blockbuster.
Sure to make us BILLIONS.
It's the story of a holocaust denying gay muslim prostitute with a heart of gold, who has a club foot and is slated for execution .
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katemaclaren Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:17:13pm |
re: #37 Lynn B.
Departures (Japan) won. It is about an unemployed classical musician who goes to work at the morgue.
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:17:14pm |
I watched "Dark Knight" at my home theater and the soundtrack blew out my sub woofer. Just got the new one. I was pissed about that. But, I upped the arms race to a nice Polk Audio sub woof. Try blowing THAT one out, Hollywood.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:17:14pm |
re: #106 sattv4u2
I got the point. But by thinking that NOT going to a movie theater and seeing a first run Hollywood film means you are somehow boycotting Hollywood is incorrect
I saw Josey at the theater...I go to a movie once in a while...not often tho..it's a passive boycott...I do what I want and don't make excuses for it
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CynicalConservative Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:17:37pm |
re: #110 Charles
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that we had a dowsing meltdown today.
Over/Under for the oscar meltdown?
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Gus Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:17:56pm |
re: #110 Charles
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that we had a dowsing meltdown today.
Probably because it kind of attached to farming fables and "practices" across the American landscape.
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zombie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:18:02pm |
re: #116 Scion9
Kate Winslet won best actress for being a naked Nazi. She did double duty to hedge her bets.
Naked Nazi? Damn, no wonder she won.
So: The Reader was a remake of Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS?
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Ward Cleaver Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:18:07pm |
The Dallas Morning News did a puff piece article on Kwame Kilpatrick's wife today. The commenters weren't buying it, especially the ones in Detroit.
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Gozer the Carpathian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:18:11pm |
ZZZzzz *Snort* Wa? What? The Oscars were tonight? Oh darn I missed them.
ZZzzz
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:18:19pm |
re: #113 zombie
This year, I managed to not see a SINGLE film that was nominated in any category. So I have absolutely no opinion about any of them.
This year I managed to not work on any of them. First time in about 12 years.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:18:34pm |
re: #125 CynicalConservative
Over/Under for the oscar meltdown?
around post 250 this will turn into either a Beck/ ID/ Jindal rant!
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Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:18:48pm |
re: #110 Charles
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that we had a dowsing meltdown today.
Just don't touch my Faith Healing hobby...that'll be fightin' words...I may have to cast out some demons
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Steffan Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:19:09pm |
re: #85 cowbellallen
Highlights of the night:
Pineapple Express clip
Ben Stiller acting like Joaquin Phoenix on Letterman
Boob popping out during musical performance
Sean Penn ranting about people who voted against Prop 8
Sean Penn not thanking his super hot wife
The boob shot will be on YouTube before midnight tonight, if it isn't there now.
The rest I can live without, especially Spicoli ranting about Prop 8.
Which boyfriend do you think he wanted to marry?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:19:20pm |
re: #134 Desert Dog
Just don't touch my Faith Healing hobby...that'll be fightin' words...I may have to cast out some demons
Matt Damons?
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:19:22pm |
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CynicalConservative Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:19:24pm |
re: #132 sattv4u2
around post 250 this will turn into either a Beck/ ID/ Jindal rant!
Hope not to be awake that long.
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Dan G. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:19:29pm |
re: #125 CynicalConservative
;) Yawn, this is sooo boring, blah blah yadda yadda. You really should be posting X instead of Y. The Oscars are only a theory!
/ Do I really need to?
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:19:36pm |
I used to live in the Hollywierd Hills, just north of this "extravaganza". It was always marked on the callendar as a "get out of town" weekend. You wouldn't BELIEVE what the city goes through for this BS. Gridlock, is putting it mildly.
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FrogMarch Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:19:52pm |
re: #107 Dark_Falcon
No surprise. Clint Eastwood told truths in that movie that most of Hollywood does not want to hear. The idea that evil must be met with armed force is anathema to them.
not to mention the entire film is non-PC. Equal opportunity non-PC. I loved it.
Plus - Clint Eastwood isn't a bleeding heart proggie.
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zombie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:19:55pm |
re: #121 Shug
I have a new blockbuster.
Sure to make us BILLIONS.It's the story of a holocaust denying gay muslim prostitute with a heart of gold, who has a club foot and is slated for execution .
Damn, I want to invest in the production of that movie. Where do I sign up?
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CynicalConservative Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:20:02pm |
re: #139 Dan G.
;) Yawn, this is sooo boring, blah blah yadda yadda. You really should be posting X instead of Y. The Oscars are only a theory!
/ Do I really need to?
Woot! +1
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Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:20:11pm |
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So? Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:20:25pm |
re: #111 traderjoe9
That movie was excellent in one respect - it showed (for once) that the people living in the territories occupied by Germany were more than happy to capture and hunt Jews for the Nazis.
The extras were all realistic, but the main actors ruined the whole movie for me. One brother wore a tailored brown leather jacket, the other was an action superhero who was a perfect shot. Be nice if someone redid the movie with no-name actors. Even James Bond's (can't remember his real name) girlfriend looked like a supermodel. Pathetic casting. It can and does ruin a good movie.
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katemaclaren Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:20:48pm |
re: #98 rawmuse
Plus, tonight I found out that Queen Latifa can really sing. I mean like a real standard ballad. She did a fine job.
Oh, I thought she was wonderful! I got a bit teary over Paul Scofield and Paul Newman, though.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:20:57pm |
Charles! Stop! This blog has nothing but Academy Award posts! You're obsessed! I hate you hate you hate you! Burn in hell! I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. Demille!
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CynicalConservative Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:20:58pm |
Waiting for Pandora to play a song I don't like so I can check out and sleep. I will probably be here for a while.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:21:13pm |
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Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:21:39pm |
re: #94 zombie
I foolishly said on a previous thread that Milk was going to rack up the Oscars, because "gayness" has the highest priority rating among PC Oscar-magnet themes, surpassing "prostitute with a heart of gold" and "Nazis."
Well, someone just told me that "Slumdog Millionaire" has Muslim characters -- and it beat Milk for Best Picture!
So we now have a new champion in the PC sweepstakes!
The new hierarchical ranking of themes-that-guarantee-Oscars are:
Muslims
gayness
Nazis/Holocaust
prostitutes-with-a-heart-of-gold
anti-war
"gimps" and "the disabled"
actors that died the previous year or are on their death beds......help me out here. Any other PC categories for winning Academy Awards?
Depends on the category. If you're talking about Best Picture, I think race, murder and suburban ennui head the pack.
If you're looking at the list for Best Documentary, the Holocaust pretty well dominates.
Cinematography? It's typically a movie set in some far-flung place or time.
My take, anyway.
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Shug Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:21:39pm |
I think they should teach The Academy Awards and the Golden Globes.
let the kids decide
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Ward Cleaver Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:21:41pm |
re: #148 Charles
Charles! Stop! This blog has nothing but Academy Award posts! You're obsessed! I hate you hate you hate you! Burn in hell! I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. Demille!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Silvergirl Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:21:45pm |
re: #148 Charles
Charles! Stop! This blog has nothing but Academy Award posts! You're obsessed! I hate you hate you hate you! Burn in hell! I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. Demille!
LOL! What fun mail you get!
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theheat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:22:00pm |
re: #98 rawmuse
She's always been a talented singer. Hand her a good song, and she can sing it. Unfortunately, a lot of the music she chooses to sing, the stuff she became famous for, doesn't float my boat. In spite of that, I really like her as a performer. (That, and she usually dresses well for big events.)
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:22:20pm |
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Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:22:26pm |
re: #150 sattv4u2
great,, take ben AFLAC with him
I am good, but not that good...I think you will need an old priest and a young priest and a 50 gallon drum of holy water to get rid of that one...
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ErnieG Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:22:28pm |
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:22:53pm |
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Sharmuta Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:23:00pm |
re: #152 Shug
I think they should teach The Academy Awards and the Golden Globes.
let the kids decide
What are you?! Some sort of SAG Award denialist?!
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:23:03pm |
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DistantThunder Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:23:23pm |
re: #146 So?
The extras were all realistic, but the main actors ruined the whole movie for me. One brother wore a tailored brown leather jacket, the other was an action superhero who was a perfect shot. Be nice if someone redid the movie with no-name actors. Even James Bond's (can't remember his real name) girlfriend looked like a supermodel. Pathetic casting. It can and does ruin a good movie.
The book is phenomenal. 50 times better than the movie and I enjoyed the movie. The book is Anne Frank on steroids.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:23:36pm |
re: #148 Charles
Charles! Stop! This blog has nothing but Academy Award posts! You're obsessed! I hate you hate you hate you! Burn in hell! I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. Demille!
thats just funny,,,maybe it's me
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Dan G. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:23:39pm |
I used to be a BIG fan of this blog, but now you're just catering to the Islamohollywooddarwinnazi's. What about improtatn things lik Zerobama's nirf certifictk
/ I'm having too much fun with this... I'm done ;)
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katemaclaren Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:23:45pm |
re: #130 rawmuse
I saw all but Milk--even the animated films! My 11-year old and I love to see all the new kids' movies, too.
I refused to see Milk, though. Most depressing of these was Revolutionary Road. The Reader was good--but I didn't like the book, so I was surprised. Benjamin Button was good--and most especially the woman who played Benjamin's mother--she should have had that Oscar instead of Penelope.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:23:57pm |
I'm just mad that they had Aniston skip the red carpet, so that we missed our red-carpet slap down.
Really, panning on Brad & Angelina during her talk was too much.
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:24:03pm |
re: #155 theheat
I can't chew the hip hop stuff, but I loved her in "Chicago".
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capitalist piglet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:24:21pm |
re: #121 Shug
I have a new blockbuster.
Sure to make us BILLIONS.It's the story of a holocaust denying gay muslim prostitute with a heart of gold, who has a club foot and is slated for execution .
Was this person ever homeless?
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:24:22pm |
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katemaclaren Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:24:23pm |
re: #148 Charles
Charles! Stop! This blog has nothing but Academy Award posts! You're obsessed! I hate you hate you hate you! Burn in hell! I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. Demille!
Are you having a meltdown? Hmmm?
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Steffan Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:24:40pm |
re: #94 zombie
I've noticed lately that films that make out like bandits at the box office aren't even considered for the Academy Awards.
Oscar nominees tend to be films that don't even make enough to cover their production costs. That they are PC seems to be more important than if they made money.
Studios being businesses, after all, you'd think that they'd want to reward the films that allow them to remain in business...
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:24:52pm |
re: #112 So?
I think cause its a Canadian movie. America likes to stroke its own.
United Artists/MGM is Canadian?
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katemaclaren Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:25:20pm |
re: #171 capitalist piglet
Was this person ever homeless?
...and Meryl Streep can play this part perfectly--the goddess.
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:25:26pm |
I liked "the Wrestler". and "Tropic Thunder" was too damn funny.
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CynicalConservative Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:25:43pm |
re: #173 katemaclaren
Are you having a meltdown? Hmmm?
Newsflash! Charles bans himself for posting oscar thread.
//
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:25:54pm |
re: #148 Charles
Charles! Stop! This blog has nothing but Academy Award posts! You're obsessed! I hate you hate you hate you! Burn in hell! I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. Demille!
LMAO!
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:25:57pm |
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Colonel Panik Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:26:03pm |
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:26:09pm |
re: #121 Shug
I have a new blockbuster.
Sure to make us BILLIONS.It's the story of a holocaust denying gay muslim prostitute with a heart of gold, who has a club foot and is slated for execution .
This is probably already an episode of South Park.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:26:09pm |
re: #169 rawmuse
I can't chew the hip hop stuff, but I loved her in "Chicago".
I loved her in Kansas City...she gets around eh?
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Steffan Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:26:12pm |
re: #110 Charles
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that we had a dowsing meltdown today.
Like the man said, "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."
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zombie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:26:13pm |
re: #146 So?
The extras were all realistic, but the main actors ruined the whole movie for me. One brother wore a tailored brown leather jacket, the other was an action superhero who was a perfect shot. Be nice if someone redid the movie with no-name actors. Even James Bond's (can't remember his real name) girlfriend looked like a supermodel. Pathetic casting. It can and does ruin a good movie.
The most recently-made movie I saw was the remake of "The Mist" from a couple years ago, and it had the same actress -- Alexa Davalos. When I saw an ad for "Defiance," I said -- Hey, it's the checkout girl from "The Mist"! But you're right -- she was way too attractive for either role. It actually does undermine the performance and hence the film. "Decent-looking" is OK for a movie, but "supermodel" is just ridiculous.
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Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:26:39pm |
re: #174 Steffan
I've noticed lately that films that make out like bandits at the box office aren't even considered for the Academy Awards.
Oscar nominees tend to be films that don't even make enough to cover their production costs. That they are PC seems to be more important than if they made money.
Studios being businesses, after all, you'd think that they'd want to reward the films that allow them to remain in business...
Actually the opposite is typically true. The Oscars overlook many fine works in favor of money-makers.
More popularity contest, too often, than commendation for actual merit.
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:26:43pm |
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IslandLibertarian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:27:23pm |
re: #110 Charles
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that we had a dowsing meltdown today.
"You don't believe me? Truth is stranger than fiction.
We drive through there every day."
Jagger-Richards -Too Much Blood
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Colonel Panik Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:28:12pm |
re: #115 Gearhead
Right in the middle of the song, Alec Baldwin suddenly appeared...
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Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:28:15pm |
The Oscars have long been taken over and politicized by the left. Same as the Nobel Peace Prize. Even if someone who actually deserves to win, actually wins, it is cheapened by the entire process...
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zombie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:28:17pm |
re: #152 Shug
I think they should teach The Academy Awards and the Golden Globes.
let the kids decide
F*ck you! What PROOF do you have that the Golden Globes exist? Have anybody ever seen a Golden Globe broadcast! Of course not! It's just a theory!
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:28:21pm |
I haven't seen any of the nominated movies but I loved the musical score from "Defiance". Sorry it didn't win.
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solomonpanting Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:28:33pm |
I understand viewership had been down for previous Oscar shows. Did this one have a stimulus package?
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Steffan Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:28:36pm |
re: #116 Scion9
Kate Winslet won best actress for being a naked Nazi. She did double duty to hedge her bets.
OK, I'll grant you that: Kate Winslet naked is worth paying to see.
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Dirk Diggler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:28:39pm |
Kate Winslet was more attractive when she was chunkier. There was an authenticity to her figure that really appealed to me.
Now she's just another gaunt, emaciated Hollywood scarecrow.
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:29:15pm |
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CynicalConservative Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:29:33pm |
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:30:35pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:30:37pm |
re: #199 Cattt
Not watching - or watched - is is over?
The main event is over but the Barbara WaWa post oscar show is still on I believe...changed the channel.
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Steffan Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:30:41pm |
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xango annie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:30:48pm |
#104 OK those are fightin' words...I loved Jim Croce...still do...
Glad SlumDog won..wonderful film...hated that the Red Diaper Baby won...knew he would have to snark into Mr. Scold...I was rooting for Mickey...he is a very talented guy and stood up for President Bush recently..Altho, I cannot stand BWalters, I did watch her show tonite..because I wanted to see Hugh Jackman and Mickey...Mickey was actually quite touching...and anyone that loves animals that much is ok with me..his little dog, Loki.(18yrs old) just died this week...
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Dirk Diggler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:31:04pm |
Steffan,
OK, I'll grant you that: Kate Winslet naked is worth paying to see.
Why pay? Just Google images for the movie Jude.
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Catttt Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:31:05pm |
re: #110 Charles
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that we had a dowsing meltdown today.
That gives me a sinking feeling. In fact, it's all wet. /
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:31:10pm |
Hollywood reminds me of today's GOP, replete with tunnel vision and endless preaching to the choir.
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Shug Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:31:33pm |
re: #194 zombie
F*ck you! What PROOF do you have that the Golden Globes exist? Have anybody ever seen a Golden Globe broadcast! Of course not! It's just a theory!
I'm a young globe creationist. I admit it.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:31:49pm |
my kids were here for a visit...they dragged me to see 'Wild Pigs" or some such movie because it was made in NM and I should support the economy here...it was a movie about a bunch of over the hill suburban bikers...I dropped like a ton of money on that awful piece of shit...I still resent that day...just an awful movie
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:31:49pm |
re: #164 DistantThunder
The book is phenomenal. 50 times better than the movie and I enjoyed the movie. The book is Anne Frank on steroids.
One the one hand, I view stories like Defiance as true inspirational stories about fighting evil. However, my love of said stories is tempered by the fact that, given my German ethnic background and personality, had I lived in those places in those days I would have likely been one of the SS sent to murder the Jews. Hitler would have lied and ranted, and I would have believed him and followed him all the way to hell. Thus my cardinal reaction to such stories is to thank God for sending my soul to a place and time where I have been able to be a better man.
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katemaclaren Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:31:54pm |
re: #104 So?
I think Ledger and Rourke sucked. Too cliché for me. Rourke sounded like Rocky Balboa. Ledger's act got tiresome after 10 minutes. Don't see what all the fuss was about. Seems death raises your Karma points a few notches. Reminds me of Jim Croce, the singer. Never heard of him, never knew anybody who liked his music. But after hus death he was #1 in the charts. Sheeeple.
I thought Rourke should have won. He was really that good.
By the way, everyone O/T: My MSM newspaper has just made the late news: The Philadelphia Inquirer has declared bankruptcy.
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IslandLibertarian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:32:00pm |
...but have they given the award for the
"Film With the Smallest Carbon Footprint"?
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DistantThunder Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:32:11pm |
Was the reader based on a true story? It has a very unappealing theme of child rape.
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Colonel Panik Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:32:19pm |
You come up with all the theories you like about why Obama beat McCain...the base didn't turn out, moderates were alienated by the Christian Right, whatever.
I'm firmly convinced McCain lost because Trey and Matt didn't do a sequel to "Team America" for this election year..."Team America 2: Dirka Dirka Ahamdinejad" or "Team America 2: Rise of the Obamination".
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Steffan Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:32:26pm |
re: #148 Charles
Somebody in desperate need of a life, maybe?
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katemaclaren Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:32:31pm |
re: #178 CynicalConservative
Oh, funny! Charles, where are you...Charles? Come back! Curtain call, please.
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:32:46pm |
re: #188 Cognito
Yes. There are apparently a lot of politics involved as well, and films actually have to be put up for consideration in the first place. There are 'lobbyists' for studios trying to win the awards for their films. I'm sure money changes hands as well.
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CynicalConservative Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:33:42pm |
re: #218 katemaclaren
Oh, funny! Charles, where are you...Charles? Come back! Curtain call, please.
I'm telling ya, he's gone. This blog will self destruct in 5..4..3...
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DistantThunder Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:34:15pm |
re: #212 Dark_Falcon
One the one hand, I view stories like Defiance as true inspirational stories about fighting evil. However, my love of said stories is tempered by the fact that, given my German ethnic background and personality, had I lived in those places in those days I would have likely been one of the SS sent to murder the Jews. Hitler would have lied and ranted, and I would have believed him and followed him all the way to hell. Thus my cardinal reaction to such stories is to thank God for sending my soul to a place and time where I have been able to be a better man.
You would have been one of the young ones that surrendered to the allied forces. I just know it.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:34:17pm |
re: #218 katemaclaren
Oh, funny! Charles, where are you...Charles? Come back! Curtain call, please.
you're begging...
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jaunte Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:34:37pm |
re: #214 IslandLibertarian
...but have they given the award for the
"Film With the Smallest Carbon Footprint"?
(sshhh. wouldn't be union)
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katemaclaren Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:34:46pm |
re: #221 CynicalConservative
Well, in that case, I'm running for cover--
my bed. Goodnight all!
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:34:48pm |
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DistantThunder Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:35:13pm |
re: #220 katemaclaren
The Reader is a novel.
I know that, but since it uses a real event of the war, I wondered if it was based on a true story.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:35:15pm |
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Catttt Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:35:49pm |
re: #152 Shug
I think they should teach The Academy Awards and the Golden Globes.
let the kids decide
Oh, right. Teach the popular awards - totally ignore the Tonys.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:36:05pm |
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katemaclaren Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:36:23pm |
re: #227 DistantThunder
I don't know for sure, but I read the book and don't remember reading any blurb that said "based on a true story..." but I could have missed it.
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MJ Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:36:36pm |
Capo column of the month:
What Iran’s Jews Say
What a fucking tool this Cohen is.
Like the Jews of Iran are free to speak their minds without fear of reprisals.
I hate the fucking NYT!
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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Steffan Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:36:46pm |
re: #190 IslandLibertarian
"You don't believe me? Truth is stranger than fiction.
We drive through there every day."Jagger-Richards -Too Much Blood
AKA "You can't make this shit up."
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:37:06pm |
re: #215 DistantThunder
Was the reader based on a true story? It has a very unappealing theme of child rape.
No it is not based on a true story. The author is from the generation of the main character; the young boy. The story is an allegory for that generations upbringing under the Nazis, and dealing with the aftermath as adults. The inappropriate relationship between the simpleton Nazi and the bright young man was metaphorical.
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Shug Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:37:09pm |
re: #229 Cattt
Oh, right. Teach the popular awards - totally ignore the Tonys.
If you allow the Tonys in your Childs classroom, the next thing you know they will be teaching your child about the Espys.
Will you be OK with that?
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katemaclaren Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:37:19pm |
Okay, I really mean it this time.
Night Night, everyone.
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:37:44pm |
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ErnieG Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:38:03pm |
re: #121 Shug
I have a new blockbuster.
Sure to make us BILLIONS.It's the story of a holocaust denying gay muslim prostitute with a heart of gold, who has a club foot and is slated for execution .
And she's being hunted by an evil [pick one][ oil corporation, pharmaceutical corporation, Zionist cabal, rogue Army squad, Christian fundamentalist group, American intelligence organization] but she's saved by oppressed militant youths who are really the good guys.
Did I say pick one? Go ahead and pick two or three.
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:38:08pm |
re: #232 MJ
Capo column of the month:
What Iran’s Jews Say
What a fucking tool this Cohen is.
Like the Jews of Iran are free to speak their minds without fear of reprisals.
I hate the fucking NYT![Link: www.nytimes.com...]
The NYT is run by a bunch of kapos who helped hide what was going on in the concentration camps.
I will not mourn the paper's loss.
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Catttt Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:38:13pm |
re: #235 Shug
If you allow the Tonys in your Childs classroom, the next thing you know they will be teaching your child about the Espys.
Will you be OK with that?
Some of my best friends won Espys.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:38:18pm |
re: #228 freetoken
Really? Practicing dowsers? Guess I'll go downstairs and check it out.
Next thing you know, Charles will be dissing the Raelians.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
LOL
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:38:56pm |
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Steffan Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:39:15pm |
re: #207 Dirk Diggler
Steffan,
Why pay? Just Google images for the movie Jude.
Well, we do want her to get the royalties, right?
If she's gonna show her all for the cause, she should at least see some of the money from it.
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:39:27pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:40:01pm |
re: #222 DistantThunder
You would have been one of the young ones that surrendered to the allied forces. I just know it.
Maybe. But I would have been made into a monster before that or at least someone who worshiped monsters. It just something I think about at times. What would do in such-and-such a place and time, knowing what was known then. Sometimes I don't like what the answers say about me, but that just makes thinking about what drives me all the more important. I work to know myself and not fall prey to the snares that have trapped others. Because I can and have learned from the mistakes in the past. And that is why I am the anti-totalitarian I am today.
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ErnieG Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:40:25pm |
re: #243 ploome hineni
104 So?
you think Ledger was acting?
I found him very disturbing..too real
"It's called acting, dear boy."
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:40:33pm |
re: #218 katemaclaren
Oh, funny! Charles, where are you...Charles? Come back! Curtain call, please.
Shane...Shane...Come back Shane!
/S
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wee fury Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:40:52pm |
I read "The Reader" a few years ago. I didn't like the main character -- which I believe to be the whole point of the book.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:41:20pm |
re: #246 Cattt
Let me! Let me! Let me!
Too much information.
well beat me with a noodle...no offense...hey I like Charles too!
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:41:50pm |
re: #135 Steffan
The rest I can live without, especially Spicoli ranting about Prop 8.
Oh, puke. A pretend homosexual lecturing America about the terminology that Californians should use for real homosexual couples. (Mind you, even after Prop 8, same-sex couples in California continue to have the same state-level rights as married heterosexual couples, only under a different name; while in most other states, same-sex couples get zip, zilch, nada, under any name.)
I'll bet the Obligatory Applause was deafening; no one wanted to be caught "not clapping for gay marriage rights" on camera.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:41:58pm |
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:42:48pm |
re: #251 albusteve
Just yanking your chain, ALBUsteve! I hope you have forgiven me for the Phelps thread.
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Lib Wingnut Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:44:07pm |
OT:
The classiness continues:
[Link: www.courier-journal.com...]
No matter which side of the fence you're on, this is just plain uncouth.
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Kronocide Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:45:01pm |
Judging by the amount of posts, academy awards are not important.
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:45:26pm |
re: #257 ploome hineni
like I said, I don;t think he was acting
and his death shortly after may explain his disturbing 'acting'
I'm on the same page with you on this, ploome. I've read several articles speculating the same ...
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IslandLibertarian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:45:27pm |
Two young play writes are walking down Broadway when they see a window-washer accidentally fall from his scaffold, fall 15 stories until miraculously glancing off a large American flag on the building front. land on the entry awning and bounce harmlessly to the ground.
One play-write says, "Boy, was that guy lucky."
The other replies, "No, Andrew Lloyd Weber was lucky."
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Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:45:29pm |
re: #256 Lib Wingnut
OT:
The classiness continues:
[Link: www.courier-journal.com...]
No matter which side of the fence you're on, this is just plain uncouth.
Good grief. Way to go, Bunning.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:45:39pm |
re: #255 pink freud
Just yanking your chain, ALBUsteve! I hope you have forgiven me for the Phelps thread.
I hold no grudges ever...not with anyone
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Dirk Diggler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:45:53pm |
Steffan,
Well, we do want her to get the royalties, right?
If she's gonna show her all for the cause, she should at least see some of the money from it.
Hey I'm just trying to help a brother out. These are hard economic times. For all I know $7.50 might be too much for you to to pony up right now.
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:46:02pm |
Wow, had to go back and check out the dowsing thread. Too funny.
Speaking of water, we are really getting it right now, coming down in torrents, which is a real blessing.
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zombie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:46:20pm |
re: #252 Throbert McGee
On my "list of things that matter to me one way or the other," gay marriage ranks somewhere between "Is Pluto a planet?" and "Paper or plastic?".
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:46:28pm |
re: #239 Kosh's Shadow
The NYT is run by a bunch of kapos who helped hide what was going on in the concentration camps.
I will not mourn the paper's loss.
I would mourn it. I hope that Sultzbuger gets bounced out on his ass, and the paper gets put under new, competent, management. I want the NYT reformed if possible, folded if necessary.
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wee fury Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:46:41pm |
re: #254 ploome hineni
and what was the message?
the nazi would kill him, but he was a good fk anyway?
The message was: The woman was bad. What she did was bad during the War. What she did after the war was bad. Her sense of morality was seriously skewed and lacking.
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:46:50pm |
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:47:28pm |
re: #252 Throbert McGee
Sean Penn, pretend homosexual.
/he's come a long way from his leaky "boat" in New Orleans
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Cato the Elder Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:47:40pm |
re: #110 Charles
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that we had a dowsing meltdown today.
You're just so intolerant and insensitive. Why, I bet you even scoff at ear-candling.
/heartless skeptical cynic-dog!
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Dirk Diggler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:48:03pm |
zombie,
On my "list of things that matter to me one way or the other," gay marriage ranks somewhere between "Is Pluto a planet?" and "Paper or plastic?".
Plastic. F#@k the environment.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:48:24pm |
re: #272 ploome hineni
I would hold a grudge...but I can't remember nics
lol
SMACK!...what's for dinner?
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:48:40pm |
re: #258 BigPapa
Judging by the amount of posts, academy awards are not important.
They sure as hell are.
/theatre business for the winners will now pick up substantially
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:49:09pm |
re: #256 Lib Wingnut
OT:
The classiness continues:
[Link: www.courier-journal.com...]
No matter which side of the fence you're on, this is just plain uncouth.
That's terrible!
Did you make note of the last sentence?
"Meanwhile, Bunning noted that the committee is helping moderate senators Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and Olympia Snowe of Maine." Two of the republicans who voted for the stimulus package. Spit.
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:49:25pm |
re: #216 Colonel Panik
I'm firmly convinced McCain lost because Trey and Matt didn't do a sequel to "Team America" for this election year..."Team America 2: Dirka Dirka Ahamdinejad" or "Team America 2: Rise of the Obamination".
A Team America sequel would be like a Citizen Kane remake: one dare not try to replicate sheer perfection.
(Besides, Trey and Matt said that a feature-length marionette movie was just too much of a gigantic PITA, and they never wanted to do it again.)
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:50:34pm |
re: #256 Lib Wingnut
OT:
The classiness continues:
[Link: www.courier-journal.com...]
No matter which side of the fence you're on, this is just plain uncouth.
If people get banned from LGF for lines like that (and they do), I don't think its too much to ask from Bunning to get banned from the GOP. Wishing death on another person like that is just plain vile.
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:51:00pm |
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:51:17pm |
This year's Oscars had Sean Penn pretending to be a homosexual and Robert Downey pretending to be a white Australian playing the part of a black American, in black face.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:52:00pm |
re: #283 rawmuse
This year's Oscars had Sean Penn pretending to be a homosexual and Robert Downey pretending to be a white Australian playing the part of a black American, in black face.
Thanks for clearing that up...:)
/S
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:52:16pm |
re: #283 rawmuse
Too bad someone didn't pretend to be retarded. That's a guaranteed Oscar.
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:53:09pm |
TRIVIA QUESTION
How does the orchestra know which theme song to play when the winner is announced? Do they know the winners in advance?
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:53:54pm |
re: #286 Killgore Trout
Too bad someone didn't pretend to be retarded. That's a guaranteed Oscar.
That was in "Tropic Thunder", Ben Stiller playing "Simple Jack"
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:54:06pm |
re: #284 ploome hineni
whatever you are buying
:D
Buck's Burgers down the road is all I can afford anymore...hell of a taco for 1.50 tho...
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Cato the Elder Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:54:14pm |
I'm just so out of the loop. The only MMP I saw in the last 12 months was "Gran Torino". And it's not even in the running.
Now, if they had Oscar night for books, I might be able to muster an over-under...
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:56:03pm |
re: #287 rawmuse
TRIVIA QUESTION
How does the orchestra know which theme song to play when the winner is announced? Do they know the winners in advance?
My guess would be that they get the word a few minutes in advance. My singer friend got the word that he had to sing "It's Hard Out There For a Pimp" and said he almost fell over. He didn't think it would win at all.
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Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:56:25pm |
re: #286 Killgore Trout
Too bad someone didn't pretend to be retarded. That's a guaranteed Oscar.
No no.
You're forgetting the rule clarified by Downey (in blackface) about 'going full retard': It never, ever wins.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:56:37pm |
re: #291 ploome hineni
not tonight
I have to wash my hair
thanks
:D
/or i have a headache..forget which
I forget witch myself :)
I'm outski
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lifeofthemind Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:56:59pm |
The Oscars as a celebration of a doomed business model are slightly less interesting than a documentary on the 1967 Detroit Auto show. Future anthropologists may get a laugh out of this.
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Kronocide Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:57:15pm |
I'm going to leave now, before the Very Important Name the Uber Cute Gorilla thread is still winning over the Oscars thread. I might try to find the transcript of Penn's no doubt moving speech tonight though Mrs BigPapa has told me the street lights are on.
Honco out. Be nice to the dowsers!
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Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:57:44pm |
re: #283 rawmuse
Pretending is sort of the point, though, wouldn't you say?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:58:13pm |
re: #287 rawmuse
TRIVIA QUESTION
How does the orchestra know which theme song to play when the winner is announced? Do they know the winners in advance?
In that they only play a few bars of the song, my guess is that they have practiced the opening to each (not that many considering most movies are up for multiple awards) and just as the winner is announced they cue up that one
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:58:27pm |
re: #283 rawmuse
This year's Oscars had Sean Penn pretending to be a homosexual and Robert Downey pretending to be a white Australian playing the part of a black American, in black face.
/two men enter, one man leaves
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:59:27pm |
re: #292 Pvt Bin Jammin
No, the orchestra does not get advance notice of the winners. They have music in front of them with all of the nominees, numbered, just a short bit, like 8-16 measures. When the winner is announced, they read the music that corresponds to the winner, not the others.
re: #299 sattv4u2
You got very close, I would say you won this one!
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Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:59:27pm |
re: #298 ploome hineni
I am having a huge problem
a 21lb dog...and she is only 14 weeks old
I feel awful about locking her into a crate..so she sleepson the bed
and I have no room to turn
what to do?
At 14 weeks a puppy often feels more secure inside a crate than outside. It'll whine and whimper for your company, but it won't mind the enclosed space.
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:59:57pm |
I haven't been watching and so far, I think I have avoided torture.
Thank you for taking fire for me.
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HelloDare Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:00:17pm |
re: #94 zombie
People who are struggling with or who have conquered drug abuse.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:00:44pm |
re: #288 rawmuse
Was it? I wanted to see that one but never got around to it. I hear Tom Cruise was really good in it.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:00:54pm |
re: #298 ploome hineni
I am having a huge problem
a 21lb dog...and she is only 14 weeks old
I feel awful about locking her into a crate..so she sleepson the bed
and I have no room to turn
what to do?
I used to just kinda grab my litte 24 lb. dog and roll with him in my arms. LOL A little scary at fourteen weeks though.
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:02:01pm |
re: #305 Killgore Trout
You should see it. Wet-your-pants funny, especially "Simple Jack"
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:02:33pm |
re: #298 ploome hineni
re: #302 Cognito
At 14 weeks a puppy often feels more secure inside a crate than outside. It'll whine and whimper for your company, but it won't mind the enclosed space.
Not really. You 1st have to make the crate the place the dog wants to be in, not feeling as if it's in there as banishment. You'll have to place the dog in the crate a few times without the door being closed (place some of his/her toys and or blanket in there) so it will feel as if thats where he/she's SUPPOSED to be!
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:03:38pm |
re: #308 ploome hineni
needle like baby teeth
Ouch. Those hurt.
Have you considered a king size bed? Sounds like he/she is going to be a big one.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:03:58pm |
re: #307 ploome hineni
she is very comfortable on the bed...spreadeagled
her paws are the size of my palm
At 14 weeks?
/well, good luck with whatever that's going to turn into
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calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:05:46pm |
Just saw this thread and thought I'd share. Watching Renoir's "Grand Illusion" with my Francophone missus. Better than the freak show on ABC.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:05:47pm |
re: #94 zombie
I foolishly said on a previous thread that Milk was going to rack up the Oscars, because "gayness" has the highest priority rating among PC Oscar-magnet themes, surpassing "prostitute with a heart of gold" and "Nazis."
Well, someone just told me that "Slumdog Millionaire" has Muslim characters -- and it beat Milk for Best Picture!
So we now have a new champion in the PC sweepstakes!
The new hierarchical ranking of themes-that-guarantee-Oscars are:
Muslims
gayness
Nazis/Holocaust
prostitutes-with-a-heart-of-gold
anti-war
"gimps" and "the disabled"
actors that died the previous year or are on their death beds......help me out here. Any other PC categories for winning Academy Awards?
OK, so what I need to do is make a film about a gay, disabled Muslim, devastated by war, who moves in with a hooker with a heart of gold, haunted by the memory of her late grandfather who was a Nazi. Then I need to kill one or both lead actors.
That actually sounds like a pretty good movie.
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:06:12pm |
re: #307 ploome hineni
she is very comfortable on the bed...spreadeagled
her paws are the size of my palm
Uh oh. As the owner of a 100+ pound dog, I warn you that if you let it on the bed as a puppy, you can't say no later, when it's huge. Better to train it to sleep on the floor (like mine on a large dog bed/pad) or in a crate.
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lifeofthemind Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:06:30pm |
re: #298 ploome hineni
I am having a huge problem
a 21lb dog...and she is only 14 weeks old
I feel awful about locking her into a crate..so she sleepson the bed
and I have no room to turn
what to do?
Your problem will get a whole lot bigger if you don't start to seriously think about what makes a dog well or ill behaved. A dog is ... a dog. It is a pack animal in its furry little brain, right now it is deciding who is the top wolf. It is not a human and doesn't think you are. You must convince the animal you are in charge, that is much more important than where it sleeps. For now that means it sleeps in the crate with a blanket and maybe a ticking clock.
BTW my hairy friend often does get on my bed but there is no doubt who is boss. And as soon as get permission I'm signing off,
Enjoy the beastie but do remember to think Wolf=Woof as you stare into those eyes.
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Catttt Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:07:20pm |
re: #310 sattv4u2
re: #302 Cognito
Not really. You 1st have to make the crate the place the dog wants to be in, not feeling as if it's in there as banishment. You'll have to place the dog in the crate a few times without the door being closed (place some of his/her toys and or blanket in there) so it will feel as if thats where he/she's SUPPOSED to be!
Dogs normally very happy with their dog house will want to come in when all the oak trees drop acorns (sign of a harsh winter, they say). On the other hand, it makes the squirrels happy. /Aunt Cattt, Pioneer Woman
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lifeofthemind Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:08:08pm |
re: #313 Cognito
The problem with real big dogs os that they die to young. Like the replicants in Blade Runner.
"The light that burns the brightest..."
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Catttt Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:08:12pm |
re: #316 ploome hineni
lol
I have a california king..3 dogs
/I think I have to move
With cats, it doesn't matter how big the bed is, if you are a cat magnet (and I am).
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:08:20pm |
re: #96 Steffan
That was Alec Baldwin. He wimped out, as usual.
You'd think at least one of those wusses would have the courage of their convictions.
We can dream, right?
Hilariously, after all the "I'm going to move to Canada if Bush wins" that I sat through, someone I knew finally moved to Canada. He didn't do it for political reasons, he left a good friend of mine, and moved to Toronto to live with a woman he met on the Internet.
He'd been bitching about the Massachusetts winter. So, of course, he moves to Toronto.
Sorry, Canada.
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Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:10:10pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:11:10pm |
re: #317 Yankee Division Son
Uh oh. As the owner of a 100+ pound dog, I warn you that if you let it on the bed as a puppy, you can't say no later, when it's huge. Better to train it to sleep on the floor (like mine on a large dog bed/pad) or in a crate.
What kind of dog do you have? I used to have St. Bernards but have downsized to little terrier types.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:11:33pm |
re: #322 Cattt
With cats, it doesn't matter how big the bed is, if you are a cat magnet (and I am).
When I stay up late on the computer, Tiger will go into the bed room and lay down right in the middle of my bed. When I go in later, Tiger looks up and gives me this "The futons in the living room" look.
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:11:42pm |
re: #280 ploome hineni
metaphorical in what way? what was the metaphor?
The two main characters in the book represent something than just the literal figures that they are. The adolescent boy is a stand in for that entire generation of youths that grew up under the tutelage of the Nazis, that would find themselves in control of German society as adults. The story is about his attempt at comprehending that era of his youth and the motives of those people that forged Germany into the Third Reich; and more importantly his own level of guilt in being involved even tangentially as a youth.
The Nazi that he had an affair with is a stand in for the rank and file that made up the Party. Her illiteracy, and idiocy are basically a testament in not ever being able to rationalize the irrationality of the Nazis themselves, even when confronted with the real thing.
Their relationship specifically is everything that it was to be a young German in those days. Indoctrinated in school, shuffled off into the Hitler Youth and its precursors, bombarded with propaganda by the media. It is likening the phenomena to that of an inappropriately young virgin being taken advantage of by an alluring seductress; and despite the betrayal not being able to fully break that emotional choke hold.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:12:41pm |
re: #323 SanFranciscoZionist
He'd been bitching about the Massachusetts winter. So, of course, he moves to Toronto.
Sorry, Canada.
Hey, the winters here arent' that bad on average. He could have taken leave of his senses and moved to Quebec City, or North Bay even.
/Just 60 miles north of Toronto there can be about a ten degree celsius difference in temperature.
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:14:19pm |
re: #326 Pvt Bin Jammin
Labrador Retriever. Smart dogs, I swear they speak English.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:15:26pm |
re: #330 Yankee Division Son
I love them! Beautiful and smart. Didn't realize they got quite that big.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:15:33pm |
re: #321 lifeofthemind
The problem with real big dogs os that they die to young. Like the replicants in Blade Runner.
"The light that burns the brightest..."
Sad but true. Usually they have to be put down because of hip displasia. Their hips can't take their weight as they age.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:15:45pm |
re: #212 Dark_Falcon
One the one hand, I view stories like Defiance as true inspirational stories about fighting evil. However, my love of said stories is tempered by the fact that, given my German ethnic background and personality, had I lived in those places in those days I would have likely been one of the SS sent to murder the Jews. Hitler would have lied and ranted, and I would have believed him and followed him all the way to hell. Thus my cardinal reaction to such stories is to thank God for sending my soul to a place and time where I have been able to be a better man.
Can I just say that I really appreciate this post? I spend so much time on the Internet hearing from people who imagine that they would have been heroes during the Shoah.
A little realism, and humility, is a rare thing. Thank you.
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DistantThunder Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:15:54pm |
re: #328 Scion9
The two main characters in the book represent something than just the literal figures that they are. The adolescent boy is a stand in for that entire generation of youths that grew up under the tutelage of the Nazis, that would find themselves in control of German society as adults. The story is about his attempt at comprehending that era of his youth and the motives of those people that forged Germany into the Third Reich; and more importantly his own level of guilt in being involved even tangentially as a youth.
The Nazi that he had an affair with is a stand in for the rank and file that made up the Party. Her illiteracy, and idiocy are basically a testament in not ever being able to rationalize the irrationality of the Nazis themselves, even when confronted with the real thing.
Their relationship specifically is everything that it was to be a young German in those days. Indoctrinated in school, shuffled off into the Hitler Youth and its precursors, bombarded with propaganda by the media. It is likening the phenomena to that of an inappropriately young virgin being taken advantage of by an alluring seductress; and despite the betrayal not being able to fully break that emotional choke hold.
It's starting to feel like America. i feel so violated.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:16:43pm |
re: #214 IslandLibertarian
...but have they given the award for the
"Film With the Smallest Carbon Footprint"?
The SF Chronicle asked some people to propose a new Oscar award. Amy Tan says she wants one for 'best animal'.
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lifeofthemind Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:17:43pm |
re: #319 ploome hineni
standard poodle
gorgeous dog
BTW for teething get a Booda&Trade; rope, soak it in water put n paper bag and place in freezer, dog looks up at you as it chews and the pain goes away, makes it more submissive.
Standard Eh? a dog that does not shed?
must go talk to someone
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jackfetch Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:17:48pm |
I sooo wanted Mickey Roarke to win and go on a rant at the podium again. Sean Penn is far too predictable.
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DistantThunder Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:18:23pm |
The Philly Inquirer just filed for bankrupty today, along with with it's sister paper - I forget the name.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:18:52pm |
re: #334 SanFranciscoZionist
Can I just say that I really appreciate this post? I spend so much time on the Internet hearing from people who imagine that they would have been heroes during the Shoah.
A little realism, and humility, is a rare thing. Thank you.
Thank you, for reading it and knowing what I was trying to say. It wasn't an easy thing to write but I wanted to be honest.
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:19:24pm |
re: #332 Pvt Bin Jammin
Usually they don't, females usually average 50-70 pounds, but I've had two, and both turned out to be quite large, but not fat, dogs. Just lucky I guess...
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:21:21pm |
re: #331 ploome hineni
No. Michael is an affluent German. There is a Jewish character, a survivor of Auschwitz, whose story is presented in a diary, to Michael. I also apparently misremembered entire swaths of the Novel, according to someone over my shoulder; but close enough anyway.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:21:22pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:23:52pm |
re: #341 Yankee Division Son
Usually they don't, females usually average 50-70 pounds, but I've had two, and both turned out to be quite large, but not fat, dogs. Just lucky I guess...
I have a fat dog now. A little Jack Russell Terrier/Beagle mix. I don't really feed him that much and have cut back on the food. He is about 37 lbs. I think my hubby is giving him too many treats.
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dapperdave Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:25:18pm |
I remember I watched the Oscars years ago, all they did was talk about saving the whales, that was the last time I watched the Oscars.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:25:59pm |
re: #345 Pvt Bin Jammin
I have a fat dog now. A little Jack Russell Terrier/Beagle mix. I don't really feed him that much and have cut back on the food. He is about 37 lbs. I think my hubby is giving him too many treats.
Both of those breeds love to eat, though, and they do put on weight easily.
And they're so cute that I can hardly imagine not giving them too many treats!
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:26:09pm |
re: #344 ploome hineni
[Link: www.imdb.com...]
/not all nazis were bad
not all nazis killed Jews because they hated Jews. Some nazis killed Jews because they were illiterate
Oskar Schindler was a Nazi party member.
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Catttt Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:26:53pm |
Zorba, really big English Mastiff
He was was over 343 pounds, measured 8 feet 3 inches long from his nose to his tail and stood 37 inches at the shoulder.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:27:01pm |
re: #346 dapperdave
I remember I watched the Oscars years ago, all they did was talk about saving the whales, that was the last time I watched the Oscars.
Must have been some time ago. Whales are, for some reason, no longer all that fashionable.
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lifeofthemind Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:28:08pm |
re: #349 ploome hineni
where do you get those?
Booda brand ropes? any good pet store should stock them, sorry my good citizen trade mark thingy didn't work
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:28:42pm |
re: #347 SanFranciscoZionist
Both of those breeds love to eat, though, and they do put on weight easily.
And they're so cute that I can hardly imagine not giving them too many treats!
I know. They are adorable. He looks like a large Jack Russell but once in awhile he bays. LOL We mostly give him the baby carrots for treats. I guess they probably have sugar in them.
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:28:52pm |
re: #348 Yankee Division Son
Wernher von Braun was also a Party member. We naturalized him in 1955.
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lifeofthemind Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:29:14pm |
Just saw the cute baby animal thread degenerated into massive comment deletions. G'night ladies.
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Catttt Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:29:26pm |
re: #327 Dustyvet
When I stay up late on the computer, Tiger will go into the bed room and lay down right in the middle of my bed. When I go in later, Tiger looks up and gives me this "The futons in the living room" look.
Heh. My cats yell at me if I don't go to bed when they want to. They seem to be attached to me with strings. Sometimes they cry when I shut the bathroom door (they think there is an exit in there somewhere - not exactly rocket scientists).
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:29:35pm |
re: #348 Yankee Division Son
Oskar Schindler was a Nazi party member.
Next quarter, I am supposed to teach a novel to my freshman that's set in a suburb of Munich during the war. One of the ongoing plotlines has to do with the main character's foster father's never-accepted application to the party.
It's going to be interesting teaching this to the kids. It's a good book, but very long, and with a lot of moral ambiguity.
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pink freud Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:30:00pm |
re: #349 ploome hineni
where do you get those?
My daughter has a pup who's teething also. I'd not heard of the Booda line ...here's what I found, ploome:
[Link: www.ablackhorse.com...]
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Catttt Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:30:18pm |
re: #319 ploome hineni
standard poodle
gorgeous dog
Oh, cool. They are wonderful dogs. And beautiful.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:30:34pm |
Booda Colored Rope Bone - Large
/if Amazon doesn't sell it, it's crap and you don't need it anyway
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:32:03pm |
re: #356 rawmuse
Wernher von Braun was also a Party member. We naturalized him in 1955.
Gather round while I sing you of Wernher von Braun,
A man whose allegiance
Is ruled by expedience.
Call him a Nazi, he won't even frown.
"Ha, Nazi Schmazi," says Wernher von Braun.
Don't say that he's hypocritical,
Say rather that he's apolitical.
"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?
That's not my department," says Wernher von Braun.
Some have harsh words for this man of renown,
But some think our attitude
Should be one of gratitude,
Like the widows and cripples in old London town
Who owe their large pensions to Wernher von Braun.
You too may be a big hero,
Once you've learned to count backwards to zero.
"In German oder English I know how to count down,
Und I'm learning Chinese," says Wernher von Braun.
God bless Tom Lehrer
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:32:12pm |
re: #358 Cattt
Closed doors are a bane to a cats existence.
/used to have two of the terrors darlings.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:32:40pm |
re: #362 Killian Bundy
Booda Colored Rope Bone - Large
/if Amazon doesn't sell it, it's crap and you don't need it anyway
If my dog gets any fatter he's going to start looking like a "Booda". LOL
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:34:29pm |
re: #358 Cattt
My cats yell at me
/ditch the Siamese, go Exotic/Persian, they're quiet, won't make a sound even if they get mistakenly shut in a cupboard or closet for hours
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:34:58pm |
all i can say is: no one at this house had any time for an organization that didn't think "Gran Torino" was worthy of consideration.
/and they wonder why no one goes to the movies any more...
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:34:59pm |
re: #365 BlueCanuck
Closed doors are a bane to a cats existence.
/used to have two of the
terrorsdarlings.
I once watched for about ten minutes as a coworker's cat desperately flailed around with one arm, trying to get out of a bedroom with a door mostly blocked shut.
'Should I go let him out?' I asked. My math teacher colleague shook his head. 'He'll figure it out,' he said serenely.
Eventually, something gave on the other side, and the cat shot out of the room.
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Efoster Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:35:18pm |
I stopped caring about anything that has to do with Hollywood when the actors started handing out their political "opinions."
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:35:40pm |
re: #356 rawmuse
Wernher von Braun was also a Party member. We naturalized him in 1955.
Yes, and he was also a member of the SS. His role in using concentration camp labor to build V2 rockets makes me ill, frankly. More people died building the V2's than were killed by them.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:35:58pm |
re: #368 Killian Bundy
/ditch the Siamese, go Exotic/Persian, they're quiet, won't make a sound even if they get mistakenly shut in a cupboard or closet for hours
Siamese mixes often keep the pretty Siamese coloring, but have nicer voices.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:36:21pm |
re: #372 ploome hineni
...I am out
:D
/gonna push the dog over
LOL
Goodnight, Ploome. Have a good sleep.
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Catttt Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:39:38pm |
re: #368 Killian Bundy
/ditch the Siamese, go Exotic/Persian, they're quiet, won't make a sound even if they get mistakenly shut in a cupboard or closet for hours
OK, he's a wee bit loud. However, he makes up for it by leaping onto my shoulder and sinking his claws in. :D
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:39:58pm |
re: #372 ploome hineni
...I am out
:D
/gonna push the dog over
Mine is already up in her little (er) bed on the floor sleeping. They are creatures of habit.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:40:40pm |
Now I'm in a Lehrer mood...
We are the folk song army.
Everyone of us cares.
We all hate poverty, war, and injustice,
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:41:27pm |
Hello my friends!
I love the Oscars. I am happy for Kate Winslet but I really wanted Mickey Rourke to win. Sean Penn is a bonehead.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:42:35pm |
re: #368 Killian Bundy
/ditch the Siamese, go Exotic/Persian, they're quiet, won't make a sound even if they get mistakenly shut in a cupboard or closet for hours
we have a Siamese that doesn't meow at all... in fact, he only makes a loud noise when he gets too far under foot and is stepped on.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:44:25pm |
re: #380 Afrocity
I was for Mickey too, though I didn't see the movie.
Sean Penn? I am still waiting for him to make good on his promise that if Bush was elected he would leave the United States.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:45:22pm |
re: #381 redc1c4
we have a Siamese that doesn't meow at all... in fact, he only makes a loud noise when he gets too far under foot and is stepped on.
Is it a purebred?
/in any case, good for you, that breed is known for being the most vocal
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lostlakehiker Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:45:39pm |
slumdog millionaire won most of the awards, yet less than it deserved. This is the best movie made in several years.
After what Mumbai's been through, there's a sort of karma-type justice here too.
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:45:48pm |
By the way, who was the host this year?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:46:40pm |
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:46:55pm |
re: #344 ploome hineni
I don't know how the movie plays out, but in the Novel she is pretty repugnant and abusive. Her illiteracy isn't meant to paint a sympathetic picture.
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:46:56pm |
re: #385 Throbert McGee
By the way, who was the host this year?
I think they passed it off from one to another, and even had groups of previous years winners serving in unison.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:47:12pm |
re: #385 Throbert McGee
By the way, who was the host this year?
I watched the whole show (kinda) and I didn't notice. LOL
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rawmuse Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:48:04pm |
the bit with the Pineapple Express dudes and the Milk cast was so funny, I still hurt. And with that, goodnight, Lizards!
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:48:15pm |
re: #384 lostlakehiker
After what Mumbai's been through, there's a sort of karma-type justice here too.
/not sure if this impacts life there much at all
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:50:24pm |
re: #390 rawmuse
the bit with the Pineapple Express dudes and the Milk cast was so funny, I still hurt. And with that, goodnight, Lizards!
Nite. Have a great day tomorrow.
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:51:09pm |
re: #370 SanFranciscoZionist
I once watched for about ten minutes as a coworker's cat desperately flailed around with one arm, trying to get out of a bedroom with a door mostly blocked shut.
And what were you doing in your cow orker's bedroom in the first place, you naughty thing?
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lostlakehiker Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:52:27pm |
re: #348 Yankee Division Son
Oskar Schindler was a Nazi party member.
Oskar Schindler was a Nazi party member but not a Nazi. Emphatically not a Nazi.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:52:35pm |
re: #394 Throbert McGee
And what were you doing in your cow orker's bedroom in the first place, you naughty thing?
I was in the living room, playing cards with him and his wife. The CAT was in the bedroom. Filthy mind!
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:52:49pm |
re: #386 SanFranciscoZionist
Hugh Jackman, I think.
For real? Normally it's a stand-up comic -- although not necessarily a comedian whose act you'd actually pay money to see.
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:54:09pm |
re: #397 SanFranciscoZionist
I was in the living room, playing cards with him and his wife.
Oh, I getcha -- "cards."
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:55:18pm |
re: #383 Killian Bundy
Is it a purebred?
/in any case, good for you, that breed is known for being the most vocal
He's a Balinese Siamese, and, AFAWK, purebred. the secret is that he's a rescue at 4 days old when his mom was killed. he was raised by hand in the part of the house where they kept all the dogs, and he imprinted canine.
since he moved in with us, he's learned some cat behavior from the resident Persian, but they're not the best teachers, and even picked up a few traits from watching the neighborhood cats through the windows...
he still can't meow though, although he occasionally squeezes out a bit of one: sounds more like a bark though.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:56:18pm |
re: #386 SanFranciscoZionist
Hugh Jackman, I think.
i thought it was Hugh Jerection... %-)
/white smoke
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:56:39pm |
re: #395 Afrocity
I feel sorry for Jennifer Aniston.
/I can think of a lot of more deserving people to feel sorry for, mostly nameless, but that doesn't help anyone
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:56:50pm |
re: #395 Afrocity
I feel sorry for Jennifer Aniston.
I am so out of it with regard to what's going on in Hollywood. What's going on with Jennifer?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:56:59pm |
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:57:38pm |
re: #395 Afrocity
I feel sorry for Jennifer Aniston.
with as much money as she has, i'm a little short in the sympathy dept for her.
/or any of them
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:58:13pm |
re: #404 Pvt Bin Jammin
I am so out of it with regard to what's going on in Hollywood. What's going on with Jennifer?
Just the whole Brad Pitt leaving her for Angelina Jolie thing.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:59:26pm |
re: #407 Afrocity
Just the whole Brad Pitt leaving her for Angelina Jolie thing.
hers to keep or lose... she lost.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:01:09pm |
I'm relatively new. I dropped into the Lizard Lounge for 7 minutes. What is that all about?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:01:48pm |
re: #407 Afrocity
Just the whole Brad Pitt leaving her for Angelina Jolie thing.
Ahh. That was too bad yet so common with the Hollywood set. I always admire the one's who have stuck it out with their original spouses. They are few and far between.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:02:05pm |
Life isn't that simple.
Goodnight.
Champagne Kool Aid wishes and Caviar Sardine Dreams
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Athens Runaway Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:03:10pm |
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lostlakehiker Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:03:16pm |
re: #127 zombie
Naked Nazi? Damn, no wonder she won.
So: The Reader was a remake of Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS?
The Reader is a story of penance and shame. Be fair.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:03:43pm |
re: #411 Afrocity
Life isn't that simple.
Goodnight.
ChampagneKool Aid wishes andCaviarSardine Dreams
kool Ade and value rite vodka: you can keep the fish.
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:04:17pm |
re: #396 lostlakehiker
Oskar Schindler was a Nazi party member but not a Nazi. Emphatically not a Nazi.
I believe you ate arguing semantics. He was a Nazi party member, therefore he was a Nazi. He may have hated them, and what they were doing, and certainly did everything he could to fight against it, but he was a Nazi.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:06:46pm |
re: #416 redc1c4
kool Ade and value rite vodka: you can keep the fish.
Are you old enough to remember the Fedco stores. They had "Old FedCal" whiskey. I think we had a bottle around the house somewhere. LOL
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:08:10pm |
re: #414 BlueCanuck
Nite Afrocity, stay warm and scaly.
Nothing scaly about this sweet cocoa brown skin
(as she slips into her 300 thread count Egyptian Cotton sheets)
Nite lizards
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:08:25pm |
re: #418 Pvt Bin Jammin
Are you old enough to remember the Fedco stores. They had "Old FedCal" whiskey. I think we had a bottle around the house somewhere. LOL
i may still have my Fedco card somewhere... let's see: there was one in E Pasadena, and one in Cerritos: where else?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:08:39pm |
re: #419 redc1c4
FTFY!
You're right. Did that little gal get banned that used to say that? I think her nic was "Beach Katie".
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:09:13pm |
re: #420 Afrocity
Nothing scaly about this sweet cocoa brown skin
(as she slips into her 300 thread count Egyptian Cotton sheets)
Nite lizards
it's a lizard thing.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:09:16pm |
re: #420 Afrocity
Not slandering your skin, but as a lizard one must be scaly to withstand the slings, arrows, and flames.
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lostlakehiker Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:09:21pm |
re: #387 Scion9
I don't know how the movie plays out, but in the Novel she is pretty repugnant and abusive. Her illiteracy isn't meant to paint a sympathetic picture.
It's Lolita, really. Sexual abuse of a minor, roles reversed. But she eventually understands that what she did was wrong, and takes the fall for a crime she did not commit, to pay for the ones she did.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:10:00pm |
re: #420 Afrocity
Nothing scaly about this sweet cocoa brown skin
(as she slips into her 300 thread count Egyptian Cotton sheets)
Nite lizards
And, having caused a restless night for many a male Lizard, Afrocity retires for the night.
Sleep well!
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:10:06pm |
re: #421 redc1c4
We just went to east Pasadena. Never saw another one. There is a Target on that property now.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:10:20pm |
re: #422 Pvt Bin Jammin
You're right. Did that little gal get banned that used to say that? I think her nic was "Beach Katie".
banning is a sensitive subject with me... the welt hasn't begun to go down yet. %-)
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lostlakehiker Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:11:47pm |
re: #417 Yankee Division Son
I believe you ate arguing semantics. He was a Nazi party member, therefore he was a Nazi. He may have hated them, and what they were doing, and certainly did everything he could to fight against it, but he was a Nazi.
Having a party card doesn't make you a Nazi, or a Communist. You are not what the card says you are, any more than you are what you eat. You are what you do. Schindler did the right thing, while engulfed in the perfect storm of evil.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:12:44pm |
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Athens Runaway Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:13:48pm |
re: #428 Scion9
GiGi?
Glenn Greenwald. Salon.com writer, liberal buffoon, and all-around mental midget. Enemy of the Lizard State.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:13:48pm |
re: #429 redc1c4
banning is a sensitive subject with me... the welt hasn't begun to go down yet. %-)
LOL
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Wendya Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:14:13pm |
re: #14 Sharmuta
I only look at red carpet pictures on the internet to see the gowns.
I haven't been very impressed the last couple of years. I think things were better when the studios dressed them.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:14:22pm |
re: #401 redc1c4
He's a Balinese Siamese, and, AFAWK, purebred. the secret is that he's a rescue at 4 days old when his mom was killed. he was raised by hand in the part of the house where they kept all the dogs, and he imprinted canine.
since he moved in with us, he's learned some cat behavior from the resident Persian, but they're not the best teachers, and even picked up a few traits from watching the neighborhood cats through the windows...
he still can't meow though, although he occasionally squeezes out a bit of one: sounds more like a bark though.
You have to be one or the other to be purebred. Exotic/Persians don't teach. they're "stoic".
Almost eleven month old Bill has the awkward "bark" too, and he likes to talk so his voice will probably evolve once his head finally catches up with the rest of his body. He's going to be a very large adult cat.
/he's 3/4 Exotic, one of his grandfathers "jumped the fence" with some serious orange tabby genes of domestic blur unknown origin
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:17:53pm |
re: #435 Killian Bundy
one of his grandfathers "jumped the fence" with some serious orange tabby genes of domestic blur unknown origin
Cats have no ideas about pure breeding. Cats just mate with other cats, as and when they feel like it. ;)
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:18:13pm |
re: #430 lostlakehiker
Having a party card doesn't make you a Nazi, or a Communist. You are not what the card says you are, any more than you are what you eat. You are what you do. Schindler did the right thing, while engulfed in the perfect storm of evil.
I understand and agree with your sentiment, totally. But factually he was a party member. That's all I'm saying. I was once asked "Is there such a thing as a good Nazi?" and after some thought, I remembered Oskar Schindler.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:20:24pm |
re: #436 SanFranciscoZionist
Cats have no ideas about pure breeding. Cats just mate with other cats, as and when they feel like it. ;)
/unless you're a professional breeder, and then it's a huge hit in your pocketbook that you failed to prevent that
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:23:41pm |
re: #432 Athens Runaway
I know who Greenwald is; but I don't see how anyone here agrees with him in principle or otherwise. His entire article is a paranoid rant. That doesn't make Glenn Beck not a jackass.
From your link:
If we should scold Glenn Beck for his crazy bed time story about civil wars, we can equally scold Glenn Greenwald for claiming that angry white men are forming militias all across the country to lynch the new black president. Neither exists, both are wild-eyed in nature. It’s pretty hard to tell any difference between either Glenns at this point, at least on this issue.
That seems much more in line with has been posted her, and I doubt that Greenwald agrees with it one whit.
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EaterOfFood Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:25:23pm |
re: #252 Throbert McGee
Oh, puke. A pretend homosexual
Yeah, he wins an Oscar playing a gay man who outed the officer who saved President Ford's life without his permission and had nice things to say about Rev. Jim Jones.
Meanwhile, the nations run by those dictators he's buddies have gay rights policies that make rural Alabama look like West Hollywood.
And the host won a Tony playing Liza Minnelli's gay ex-husband, Peter Allen (was he gay before they were married?).
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:26:49pm |
re: #435 Killian Bundy
You have to be one or the other to be purebred. Exotic/Persians don't teach. they're "stoic".
Almost eleven month old Bill has the awkward "bark" too, and he likes to talk so his voice will probably evolve once his head finally catches up with the rest of his body. He's going to be a very large adult cat.
/he's 3/4 Exotic, one of his grandfathers "jumped the fence" with some serious orange tabby genes of domestic blur unknown origin
you and the hair splitting: he's Balinese, he's going on 5 or so: we picked him up the day of the Cedar fires in San Diego a few years back: met them at the evac point to get him, which is why we call him Smokey. he watches his brother, who isn't normal for a Persian, and has learned many cat mannerisms from him... as far as Hairy Callahan knows cat manerisims
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lostlakehiker Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:30:49pm |
re: #17 pink freud
But how can you stand to watch all those shallow fawning people fawning over all of those shallow fawning people?
They're not all shallow. And even the shallow ones are superb in their own realm.
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:30:58pm |
re: #440 EaterOfFood
I wonder when they will make a biopic about McCarthy aide Roy Cohn; whom was basically destroyed by the Democrats, because after all it is better to be a Communist, than to be a "fag".
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:37:24pm |
re: #441 redc1c4
you and the hair splitting: he's Balinese
I'm not splitting hairs, I've had to fill out the CFA cat show entry forms, they need to be registered to win ribbons and rosettes.
/and no, I have never attended a cat show, Champion Kadiska's Not So Raggedy Andy had a professional wrangler, and no, I just supplied the disposable camera, didn't take the pictures
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:39:16pm |
re: #443 Scion9
I wonder when they will make a biopic about McCarthy aide Roy Cohn; whom was basically destroyed by the Democrats, because after all it is better to be a Communist, than to be a "fag".
/you mean besides Citizen Cohn?
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:40:08pm |
re: #445 Killian Bundy
Tagline: He was McCarthy's loyal partner. The Kennedys' worst enemy. The F.B.I.'s best friend. The country's greatest nightmare.
Yeah. Definitely besides that one.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:42:34pm |
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theheat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:54:15pm |
re: #443 Scion9
If I recall, James Woods played Roy Cohn in a movie title "Citizen Cohn". And, no, they sure didn't glam him up as a character.
FWIW, I find Sean Penn pretty much repulsive in anything he plays. He's always the same, except sometimes I tries an accent, and sounds precisely like Sean Penn plus an obvious and contrived accent (Mystic River). He's usually sullen, and holds his mouth like a pissed off bass that just grabbed a fly. For as deep and versatile as he's often credited, I find him the same ole Sean Penn every time out of the gate. Not a fan.
Rock Hudson played a straight guy for, like, 30 years or so. Where's his award?
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day734380 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:05:05am |
Looks like the 30's-40's was the dress theme...
How completely dreadful...
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SixDegrees Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:47:29am |
re: #40 USBeast
Hollywood continues to show it's complete and utter contempt for its public. I may get hammered for this comment but I believe that had Keith Ledger not died he would not have won.
Totally agree. Ledger's performance was absolutely excreable and forgettable, consisting of three lines muttered almost incomprehensibly over and over and over again. Which made his performance totally match the entire movie.
Compared to Michael Caine, who owns the camera whenever it even strays across him, Ledger - and everyone else in this film - are pathetic, overpaid amateurs whose presence serves only to prop up a lame, overlong special effects extravaganza entirely lacking in substance, drama or plot.
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tai-pan Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:05:39am |
I'm in that same minority Charles. Proud to be!
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yesandno Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:41:17am |
Does anybody think they will be humming that catchy best song of the year?
/
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guitarguy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:55:56am |
re: #450 SixDegrees
Totally agree. Ledger's performance was absolutely excreable and forgettable, consisting of three lines muttered almost incomprehensibly over and over and over again. Which made his performance totally match the entire movie.
Compared to Michael Caine, who owns the camera whenever it even strays across him, Ledger - and everyone else in this film - are pathetic, overpaid amateurs whose presence serves only to prop up a lame, overlong special effects extravaganza entirely lacking in substance, drama or plot.
Michael Caine: "The worry going in was The Joker. Jack Nicholson was the greatest Joker so, you know, how do you top that? Well, Heath Ledger's done it and he's extraordinary. He's gone in a completely different direction to Jack. Jack was like a clown figure, benign but wicked, maybe a killer old uncle. He could be funny and make you laugh. Heath is like a really scary psychopath. I did one scene with him and he was ready to go and had to come up in a lift and raid our place. I didn't see him for rehearsal and when he came out of the lift he was so incredible I forgot my lines. He frightened the life out of me. I'd never met him before. He's a lovely guy and his Joker is going to be a hell of a revelation in this picture."
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doppelganglander Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:06:49am |
re: #94 zombie
I foolishly said on a previous thread that Milk was going to rack up the Oscars, because "gayness" has the highest priority rating among PC Oscar-magnet themes, surpassing "prostitute with a heart of gold" and "Nazis."
Well, someone just told me that "Slumdog Millionaire" has Muslim characters -- and it beat Milk for Best Picture!
So we now have a new champion in the PC sweepstakes!
The new hierarchical ranking of themes-that-guarantee-Oscars are:
Muslims
gayness
Nazis/Holocaust
prostitutes-with-a-heart-of-gold
anti-war
"gimps" and "the disabled"
actors that died the previous year or are on their death beds......help me out here. Any other PC categories for winning Academy Awards?
As a sub-category of the disabled, mentally ill/retarded is Oscar gold. Russell Crowe in "A Beautiful Mind" and Geoffrey Rush in "Shine" are good examples. Kate Winslet in "The Reader" hits a twofer -- she's a Nazi and she's illiterate. For a full explanation of the phenomenon, see Robert Downey Jr. as Kirk Lazarus as Sgt. Osiris in "Tropic Thunder."
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DrCruel Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:16:05am |
Of course the actors in movies are good at what they do. They had better be good - they are paid a gadzillion dollars per picture. But why do we have to have a show about how good they are at what they're being overpaid to be good at, where they exchange gold statues in a fancy hall as they berate the rest of us for being insensitive to the poor? And why do films that no one watches get Oscars - why are we being told that films that promote the political messages of Hollywood, rather than films that exhibit technical proficiency or are popular with the public, are the ones deserving of the highest awards?
You're not in the minority. Few people watch the Oscars anymore since they became elitist propaganda. Some still take a look for the occasional film clip, or to see the actors and actresses in their suits and gowns - they do look good, as this is part of the qualifications for their profession, and thus people like to look at them. But then they open their mouths, and even the most dense amongst us has an uncontrollable urge to change the channel to something less vapid and deliberately annoying - say, like a reality show.
What a wretched business. Long ago I used to watch this, but nowadays I just occasionally check the winners on the news and have myself a laugh.
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FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:30:43am |
re: #412 Athens Runaway
OT:
How weird is it when LGF agrees (in principle) with GiGi?
Heh.
Greenwald is as insane as Beck.
But, in an effort to scold Fox News for airing Glenn Beck's recent "War Room" segments, Greenwald indulged in precisely the same sort of behavior he claims Beck does, namely that of making wild, unsubstantiated claims about the "other" side.
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Colonel Panik Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:40:41am |
Nothing for Eastwood.
Silence for Heston.
"Take your stinking paws off me you damn dirty apes moonbats!"
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Colonel Panik Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:07am |
re: #432 Athens Runaway
Glenn Greenwald. Salon.com writer, liberal buffoon, and all-around mental midget. Enemy of the Lizard State.
Otherwise known as "Socky Sockpuppet".
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Amer-I-Can Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:47:11am |
re: #52 6pat6
Was the annual Hollywood whine-and-cheese fest tonight?
Hollywood sucks.
I watched the NASCAR race, a much more entertaining event in Californica... DVRs are the bomb!
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Mike Nargizian Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:51:33am |
RE: DEFIANCE -
I saw the movie and read Tec's book. I am about to go out and buy Duffy's book written 6 years later in 93 based on newly, at the time, uncovered personal notes from Tuvia Bielski and further information.
I thought the movie was good but not as good as I thought and I thought Craig played the role the same way he plays every role, same personality. Yes, he was sordove dissappointing I thought, but Schreiber brought something to the role. Criag was also in Munich and other movies that same director made.
The book provided some more detail but also fell short of telling you some things I wanted to know such as more details after the war in Bela Russa, Israel and the US... only very brief broad details.
The main thing the book shows in my opinion is how amazing it was what Tuvia did... he was juggling so many things and did them with deft and ease while saving any and every Jew he could.
1) Germans coming at any time into the forest and killing some of his people.
2) Negotiating dangerous food missions and where to go to get it.
3) Building a community with at the end was 1200 people.
4) Dealing with the Russian partisan Generals and groups and how they dealt with Jews, him and his group... they were not high on the idea of protecting anyone that was a burden, non fighters... there was anti-semitism among their ranks and some escaping ghetto dwellers were murdered not by Germans but by Russian partisans... different Russian Generals 2 of whom respected and admired him and some who were against him.
5) Dissension among his ranks. In particular she talks about an autonomous group within whose leader went to a Russian general and tried to undercut Bielski and say he was bilking recepits etc... Tuvia handles it with his right hand people with straightfowardness and charisma.
6) Farmers who would blame the Jews for the fact they had nothing to give to Russian groups... in 1 instance Tuvia arranged for a setup and caught the Bela Russia farmer lying with the Russians... only given a shot bcs the Russian General was enamored with Tuvia.
7) Building a community a few times and running it alone in the woods is amazing... they had a tannery, bakery, gun repair shop all famous in the woods and won the group brownie points with the Russians... and school etc... these helped Tuvia hold off Russian partisan complaints about the number of non fighters in his group in the forest...About 70-80% of his group were elderly, women or very young and non fighters "malbusha" or "former elite upper class"... the Russians took about 50% of their fighters as part of the compromise to help or look the other way at their group's makeup... and the Russians were impressed with their fighters...
8) After the war he had to organize 1200 people and lead them out of the forest and to town some 15-20 miles away and make sure everyone had papers etc...
The book talks about how his next closest brother in age, Assael was much beloved by the fighters and regular people in the group and how he may have been the best fighter 'general' of the group but that he nor Zus had the charisma and wisdom to always handle all these situations with so many different people within the Otriad and more importantly outside to be able to think in the person's shoes he was speaking to... as Tuvia... The book only briefly speaks about how Tuvia was let down in the rest of his life... perhaps bcs of how underappreciated the partisans were for most of his life in Israel and the US but also due of the fact that he was a King for a few years... a King the way you read tales about them hundreds of years ago & once you are that the rest of your life can't measure up to that feeling of accomplishment and importance.
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Mike Nargizian Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:58:22am |
FINALLY -
I think Tec and the partisans wanted to forget some of the controversial things and unpleasant things that likely occured in those years within the group and outside of it... reading it I guess that there are some things Tec doesn't really touch on or not in great detail... and I think this may have played a role in the underappreciation, especially in comparison to other Holocaust era stories and "heroes" of the Tuvia and his group...
Tec estimates that Bielski saved some 1200 people and only lost some 5-10% whereas most other partisan groups, and there was another all fighter well know Jewish partisan group in the forest as well as Jews who fought with Russian partisan groups... lost somewhere between 50-80% of their people... this fact she surmises at the end is testament to Tuvia's skills and obssession to save as many Jews as possible... and I believe while tangentally touching on some of the controversy in many spots... speaks to the absolute HEROIC skills and bravery of Bielski and what predominately matters most in the history books at the end of the day.
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Mike Nargizian Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:02:29am |
I'm stating at the end that that is what I feel Tec is trying to convey at the end of the book... touching very briefly on only some of the controversies that occured during and after the forest in BelaRussia but focusing in like a laser at the truly AMAZING things Tuvia did and showing/proving that with the aid of some valiant people within but with his King/General leadership sills accomplished.
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topazpilot Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:05:59am |
My take on the Oscars:
The Hugh Jackman intro nearly made me turn the channel, though I must admit it was better than some lame comedian performing a yawn inducing stand up routine for half an hour.
The intros from previous Academy Award winners was annoying and overly fawning. I hope that is an idea that will not be repeated in the future.
The two best films of last year were not even nominated, the Dark Knight and Wall E. It's too bad that the Academy Awards routinely ignore scifi/fantasy movies in favor of melancholic pseudo dramas that make me want to slice and dice my wrists.
Sean Penn won for Best Actor and he should have. Spicoli is truly an amazing actor, one of the best in the business. It's too bad that he can be such a loon when off the set. His acceptance speech started on a humorous note and then turned boorish by the end.
I guess Kate Winslet was good, she is a pretty good actress, but what Anne Hathaway did with her character, both funny and tragic at the same time, a woman in search of redemption, was truly amazing. Hathaway should have won.
Heath Ledger should have won and I'm glad he did. I just hope people don't think he got it solely based upon sympathy and not on the amazing job he did in turning a sadistic clown into the architect of a modern moralist play on the nature of humanity. It was breathtaking.
I don't agree with the Penelope Cruz selection. I've never been impressed by her acting chops and I'm still not. Marisa Tomei was a true wonder in the Wrestler and she should have won her second Oscar.
I guess out of the movies nominated Slumdog was the best of the bunch, see above to see which two I thought were the actual best movies of the year. I find it funny that the Academy always seems like it tries to make up for not nominating or giving the prize to a scifi action type of film by giving it all the second tier technical awards. The Dark Knight cleaned up, in some respects, with those. It's cold comfort. I wouldn't have had a problem if Milk had won, it is a great movie even with extreme liberal political bent of its message. Sometimes I just have to ignore the politics and appreciate a good movie or good music.
Something I found interesting was during the obligatory obituary tribute. Polite applause, some more enthusiastic, for all except one. Charlton Heston. Total graveyard silence. Disappointing that because of his politics liberal Hollywood could not appreciate one of the tranformative actors in movie history, whose movies are considered some of the great classics of film. He deserved just as much, if not more, applause than that which was given to Paul Newman. Shame on all of those tinhat "actors" in attendance.
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topazpilot Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:11:14am |
Oh, forgot to mention. Maybe one day the Academy will recognize that comedy is the hardest discipline in all moviedom and that actors who truly are able to accomplish a true, original comedic performance should be recognized because comedy is more difficult to achieve than drama. In that, one of the best acting jobs of last year was that of Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder and he should have been nominated for that performance.
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gegenkritik Mon, Feb 23, 2009 10:45:44am |
I assume "The Reader" is as bad as the book was.
Ron Rosenbaum about the movie:
[Link: www.slate.com...]
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Kronocide Mon, Feb 23, 2009 11:25:38am |
This one's for Zombie and SFZionist:
[Link: www.sfgate.com...]
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Pickles Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:46:05pm |
I agree with TopazPilot above in that the overwhelming silence given to Charlton Heston speaks volumes about this group of people. Yes Paul Newman was a fantastic actor. So was Heston. The fact that they couldn't bring themselves to give any applause at all shows how classless they are.
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