Base words are uttered only by the base
And can for such at once be understood;
But noble platitudes — ah, there’s a case
Where the most careful scrutiny is needed
To tell a voice that’s genuinely good
From one that’s base but merely has succeeded.
— W. H. Auden
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:17:42pm |
Open thready goodness. Wonder if we will get a melt down on this one?
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:17:53pm |
what a lovely quote: it's cynical enough to fit right into my world
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:18:32pm |
Perfect quote for the Grammy's but it works almost as well for the Oscars.
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Buster Bunny Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:19:30pm |
But noble platitudes — ah, there’s a case
And yet we are left with noble platitudes and baseless indirection.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:20:52pm |
re: #6 redc1c4
hmmm... how do you heart a main post, instead of a comment?
Over on the lower right side of the topic.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:25:02pm |
"Me", the only one the average lib cares about...
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Buster Bunny Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:25:27pm |
The creationists are still buzzing around the latest link on that stuff. I swear its like flies to .. marmalade. You put out the bait and they are just .. there.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:27:30pm |
re: #11 BatGuano
Well, we got one last night. You never know with some people.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:28:12pm |
re: #14 BlueCanuck
Might come up in random musings, but the thread "topic" wont attract one this time.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:29:31pm |
re: #12 Buster Bunny
Just took a look at the spy. Dang that's a good feature, isn't it.
Hi there LeePro!
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:29:58pm |
re: #7 Pvt Bin Jammin
Over on the lower right side of the topic.
little bastage wasn't there when i looked the first time.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:31:12pm |
re: #19 redc1c4
It was a "Arthur C. Clarke" related meltdown.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:31:41pm |
re: #18 redc1c4
little bastage wasn't there when i looked the first time.
You're eyes sound as bad as mine. LOL I ended up "hearting" the post too.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:32:29pm |
Perhaps Obama could provide noble platitudes and thus melt down.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:32:37pm |
re: #21 Pvt Bin Jammin
You're eyes sound as bad as mine. LOL I ended up "hearting" the post too.
in my case it's a page loading error... Firefox is getting to be as bad as IE.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:32:39pm |
re: #19 redc1c4
The idjit that brought up the Clark slander. Posts got deleted, and the boss also blocked him on principle as well. happened about 11 am est. Saw it before I went home.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:33:01pm |
re: #22 BatGuano
Perhaps Obama could provide noble platitudes and thus melt down.
maybe if we splash water on him?
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:33:28pm |
re: #20 ArchangelMichael
It was a "Arthur C. Clarke" related meltdown.
i was wondering who, but the body count has been high lately.
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Scion9 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:33:30pm |
re: #2 BlueCanuck
Open thready goodness. Wonder if we will get a melt down on this one?
What is your obsession with open threads Charles? You post them every day, and this is two in a row!
/
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:34:09pm |
I have to admit the meltdowns are a guilty pleasure, but you have to be there in real time.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:36:13pm |
re: #26 redc1c4
i was wondering who, but the body count has been high lately.
Charles is shaking the barking moonbats out of the tree. As I said before...
On the Internet, asshats are legion.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:38:42pm |
re: #23 redc1c4
in my case it's a page loading error... Firefox is getting to be as bad as IE.
I had huge problems with Firefox after the latest update but it seems to be okay now. Drove me nuts for a couple of weeks.
Dang I've been over looking at tonight's creationism thread. It got pretty crazy after I left.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:44:17pm |
re: #32 Pvt Bin Jammin
I had huge problems with Firefox after the latest update but it seems to be okay now. Drove me nuts for a couple of weeks.
Dang I've been over looking at tonight's creationism thread. It got pretty crazy after I left.
they tend to do that... i'm thinking of going back to FF2.X. i'm sick of features: i want reliability.
/old school
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:46:13pm |
re: #33 redc1c4
they tend to do that... i'm thinking of going back to FF2.X. i'm sick of features: i want reliability.
/old school
You mean Firefox 3 was not change you could believe in?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:46:19pm |
re: #33 redc1c4
they tend to do that... i'm thinking of going back to FF2.X. i'm sick of features: i want reliability.
/old school
You can't believe how many years I stuck with Netscape. That was mega old school but darned reliable.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:46:42pm |
re: #32 Pvt Bin Jammin
Most threads like that will get crazy after most people have left it. I think that may have been one reason why Charles created the spy in the first place. To monitor asshats that go into dead threads and start posting junk.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:47:07pm |
re: #33 redc1c4
Firefox seemed to me to be increasingly bloatware that sucks up all my memory. I swear its had a memory leak since 1.5 that they refuse to acknowledge no less fix. As soon as Google ditched its "we own you" licensing wording for Chrome I switched to it and only use FF for things that don't work in Chrome. As for IE, I only use it to connect to SharePoint and Exchange servers.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:48:14pm |
re: #35 Pvt Bin Jammin
I've forgotten about Netscape. Is that still around?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:48:34pm |
re: #35 Pvt Bin Jammin
I actually hated Netscape. Version 4.7 I think. I would lock it up on average about 4 times a day. I mean ctl+alt+del lock up. Used Opera for the longest time after that. No problems and no serious lock ups with the same usage.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:48:58pm |
re: #36 BlueCanuck
I love the spy. LOL Just wish it wasn't so hard on my old eyes. Can't watch it for too long at a time.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:50:28pm |
re: #35 Pvt Bin Jammin
You can't believe how many years I stuck with Netscape. That was mega old school but darned reliable.
i still have it on this box. it won't load most pages, but it still gets 'r done for Usenet, and if you're not sure about a site, it's a safe way to check. none of the new fangled HaX0r kidde stuff w*rks on it.
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HelloDare Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:50:44pm |
re: #40 Pvt Bin Jammin
I love the spy. LOL Just wish it wasn't so hard on my old eyes. Can't watch it for too long at a time.
I wonder how many words a minute Charles can read. Monitoring these threads but really increase your reading speed.
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Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:51:18pm |
re: #37 ArchangelMichael
Firefox seemed to me to be increasingly bloatware that sucks up all my memory. I swear its had a memory leak since 1.5 that they refuse to acknowledge no less fix. As soon as Google ditched its "we own you" licensing wording for Chrome I switched to it and only use FF for things that don't work in Chrome. As for IE, I only use it to connect to SharePoint and Exchange servers.
Did Google drop that nonsense? I didn't know that. Maybe I should give it another look.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:51:26pm |
re: #39 BlueCanuck
I actually hated Netscape. Version 4.7 I think. I would lock it up on average about 4 times a day. I mean ctl+alt+del lock up. Used Opera for the longest time after that. No problems and no serious lock ups with the same usage.
does Opera w*rk on MS boxes?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:51:37pm |
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:52:27pm |
re: #37 ArchangelMichael
Firefox seemed to me to be increasingly bloatware that sucks up all my memory. I swear its had a memory leak since 1.5 that they refuse to acknowledge no less fix. As soon as Google ditched its "we own you" licensing wording for Chrome I switched to it and only use FF for things that don't work in Chrome. As for IE, I only use it to connect to SharePoint and Exchange servers.
the only issue i'd have with Chrome is that it's Google, and they are real easy to dislike
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:52:49pm |
re: #43 Cognito
[Link: blogs.computerworld.com...]
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:53:36pm |
re: #44 redc1c4
Yep, used it in windows 95 back in 2000. Have it installed on my XP laptop at home. I don't really use it that much anymore, but it does work with most sites. The only ones it won't work on are ones that are geared strictly for IE.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:53:52pm |
The DOW futures have been positive all night and have now crossed into triple digit territory.
The word's been out all weekend on Obama's “major economic speech”, the unveiling of his tax the rich/business budget this coming week, and Geithner’s threat to release details of his AWOL bank bailout plan.
/baked in, good news for now?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:54:16pm |
re: #42 HelloDare
I wonder how many words a minute Charles can read. Monitoring these threads but really increase your reading speed.
He must really be a fast reader. I don't see how he can do it but, then again, he's younger than I am. iirc
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:57:34pm |
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:58:53pm |
re: #49 Killian Bundy
The DOW futures have been positive all night and have now crossed into triple digit territory.
The word's been out all weekend on Obama's “major economic speech”, the unveiling of his tax the rich/business budget this coming week, and Geithner’s threat to release details of his AWOL bank bailout plan.
/baked in, good news for now?
raising taxes and capital gains is good news? must be contraians...
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BatGuano Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:00:06am |
re: #51 Killian Bundy
My wife has three cats. I hope there is no more cat talk.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:04:05am |
re: #52 redc1c4
raising taxes and capital gains is good news? must be contraians...
It's puzzling and the U.S markets don't open for 6 1/2 more hours.
/then again many of these stocks have no more downside, they're ongoing profitable operations, trading well below their liquidation value
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:04:56am |
re: #53 BatGuano
My wife has three cats. I hope there is no more cat talk.
"how did he know she has a cat?"
/South Park
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:05:44am |
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:06:00am |
re: #54 Killian Bundy
It's puzzling and the U.S markets don't open for 6 1/2 more hours.
/then again many of these stocks have no more downside, they're ongoing profitable operations, trading well below their liquidation value
buy now and sell in a few hours, then take the cash and run?
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:13:34am |
re: #57 redc1c4
buy now and sell in a few hours, then take the cash and run?
Don't ask me, I've been getting my ass kicked.
/might actually have to come out of retirement and get a job, hope a current law license still works
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:15:16am |
re: #59 Killian Bundy
Don't ask me, I've been getting my ass kicked.
/might actually have to come out of retirement and get a job, hope a current law license still works
i've been thinking about taking the few $ left in my 4.01K and either buying guns and ammo or paying for school, so at least i'd have a BS degree in about 18 months.
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:15:56am |
re: #58 BatGuano
3 too many.
cat's are better to have around than most people: at least you know where you stand with them.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:16:39am |
My hubby and I are never going to be able to retire. Oh, well, once a working stiff, always a working stiff.
Take care, all. Got to get some sleep.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:19:40am |
re: #61 redc1c4
i've been thinking about taking the few $ left in my 4.01K and either buying guns and ammo or paying for school, so at least i'd have a BS degree in about 18 months.
That's a tough one.
/although, if this economy doesn't turn around in the next 18 months, it might be even tougher
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:26:57am |
re: #65 Killian Bundy
That's a tough one.
/although, if this economy doesn't turn around in the next 18 months, it might be even tougher
i only grok the basics, but that's enough: we're broke. so is everyone else. everyone is creating debt to fund a recovery, but there is no money to pay for the debt, and if you invest, they wanna tax the shit out of your profit, so why invest? inflation, no investment, morons demading "buy local" when it's trade that builds economies...
hell, i never really particularly studied the 30's and even *i* know what went wrong. my MiL lived through them, and the only reason she isn't more scared is because she lived through them... there's only so much more they can do to her before she's gone.
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:28:50am |
sad/weird story out of Comton, but the comments are all Bay Area moonbat
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The Other Les Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:30:10am |
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:34:14am |
Holy [expletive deleted], the top LGF banner ad says Joe the Plumber has a new book.
/guess it pays to get camera time with Obama
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:36:08am |
re: #70 Killian Bundy
Holy [expletive deleted], the top LGF banner ad says Joe the Plumber has a new book.
/guess it pays to get camera time with Obama
seen it advertised elsewhere... not exactly new.
Palin/Plumber '12!
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:36:46am |
re: #70 Killian Bundy
That's been up all week- I'm surprised you hadn't seen that earlier.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:37:48am |
re: #71 redc1c4
Palin/Plumber '12!
Why not? He's been subject to more public scrutiny than the current president.
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:37:57am |
re: #72 Fenway_Nation
That's been up all week- I'm surprised you hadn't seen that earlier.
he don't get out much... %-)
/white smoke
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:38:10am |
re: #66 redc1c4
i only grok the basics, but that's enough: we're broke. so is everyone else. everyone is creating debt to fund a recovery, but there is no money to pay for the debt, and if you invest, they wanna tax the shit out of your profit, so why invest? inflation, no investment, morons demading "buy local" when it's trade that builds economies...
hell, i never really particularly studied the 30's and even *i* know what went wrong. my MiL lived through them, and the only reason she isn't more scared is because she lived through them... there's only so much more they can do to her before she's gone.
I would go for the education. He's going to make a run of it, but I don't think even Obama can destroy the U.S. economy.
/if worst ever comes to push and shove, you can steal whatever you need from the weak
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Clemente Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:42:00am |
platitude - That duck-billed, beaver-tailed, web-footed frame of mind...
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:42:13am |
re: #73 Fenway_Nation
Why not? He's been subject to more public scrutiny than the current president.
and i volunteer to "scrutinize" her!... %-)
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:42:28am |
Most Asian markets are up right now...that'll probably change the second 0bama opens his hope-hole.
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:42:54am |
re: #76 Clemente
platitude - That duck-billed, beaver-tailed, web-footed frame of mind...
be kind to your web footed friends...
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The Other Les Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:46:35am |
Just a reminder:
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:51:25am |
re: #81 redc1c4
I could give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's intentionally trying to single-handedly wreck the free enterprise economic system...
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 12:53:06am |
re: #82 Fenway_Nation
I could give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's intentionally trying to single-handedly wreck the free enterprise economic system...
that seems more likely: the American public wouldn't willingly elect an unprepared clueless fool to be President.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:00:31am |
re: #82 Fenway_Nation
I could give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's intentionally trying to single-handedly wreck the free enterprise economic system...
/seriously, we should know with near certainty by the end of this week and we'll see if we're headed for DOW 6000 or not
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:06:22am |
re: #84 Killian Bundy
*sigh*
I pretty much gave up on precious metals this week and started shopping around for stock in utilities. Guess I'm just feeling contrarian right now...
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:07:44am |
re: #84 Killian Bundy
/seriously, we should know with near certainty by the end of this week and we'll see if we're headed for DOW 6000 or not
this is supposed to be a key element
so far Juggy has screwed the pooch on everything else... can he break his streak?
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:08:24am |
re: #85 Fenway_Nation
*sigh*
I pretty much gave up on precious metals this week and started shopping around for stock in utilities. Guess I'm just feeling contrarian right now...
i'm considering brass, copper and lead.
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:09:46am |
re: #83 redc1c4
7 minute thread kill... more or less: that's pretty good.
you were all off getting another drink, weren't you? %-)
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BlueCanuck Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:10:39am |
re: #88 redc1c4
Smoke break here. Also catching up on news in the link dumps.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:13:41am |
Morning rightside. You're up early today aren't you?
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soxfan4life Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:16:12am |
re: #85 Fenway_Nation
*sigh*
I pretty much gave up on precious metals this week and started shopping around for stock in utilities. Guess I'm just feeling contrarian right now...
Try pipelines.They work on volume moved.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:18:11am |
re: #93 soxfan4life
Try pipelines.They work on volume moved.
Plus alot of them pay a big, fat dividend.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:19:30am |
re: #86 redc1c4
this is supposed to be a key element
so far Juggy has screwed the pooch on everything else... can he break his streak?
That's the $2 trillion question and the most important question. They trotted Geithner a couple weeks ago and the markets tanked severely.
/this has to happen if we're going to get out of this, it's the largest and only crucial bailout, they just can't seem to explain it, no banks, no global economy, stops on a dime and they can't politically [expletive deleted] around with this, it's that important
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:21:10am |
re: #91 BlueCanuck
Yes, I am working early this week.
OT, what is Macleans up there in Canada? Is it like out weekly standard/ American Spectator? or is it a newspaper?
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:21:12am |
re: #96 Killian Bundy
That's the $2 trillion question and the most important question. They trotted Geithner a couple weeks ago and the markets tanked severely.
/this has to happen if we're going to get out of this, it's the largest and only crucial bailout, they just can't seem to explain it, no banks, no global economy, stops on a dime and they can't politically [expletive deleted] around with this, it's that important
no, saving the planet from global warming is important... all you rich bastards and your banks don't care about the little people and the environment.
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:21:51am |
re: #97 rightside
Yes, I am working early this week.
OT, what is Macleans up there in Canada? Is it like out weekly standard/ American Spectator? or is it a newspaper?
they are the janitors at McDonalds...
/duh
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BlueCanuck Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:24:51am |
re: #97 rightside
Yes, I am working early this week.
OT, what is Macleans up there in Canada? Is it like out weekly standard/ American Spectator? or is it a newspaper?
Yeah, it's a weekly news magazine. Like times, but it actually prints news. Not as biased as some of the papers. They printed the article that got Mark Steyn in trouble with the Human Rights Commission up here.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:28:27am |
re: #98 redc1c4
all you rich bastards
/if I was still a what I consider a rich bastard I wouldn't be thinking about coming out of retirement
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:29:50am |
re: #100 BlueCanuck
Ah, ok thanks. Seems they have testicular fortitude. There was a link to a macleans story last week, and the author wrote that he was ashamed of the fawning Canadians over the messiah's visit. Trudeauism, anyone?
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BlueCanuck Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:33:28am |
re: #102 rightside
Yeah, when I saw all the hero worship of the One™ during the election that's all I thought about. Trudeaumania. The good thing is that Obama isn't as much of a statesman or politician as Trudeau was. As well, you folks have term limits we don't.
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:36:06am |
Term limits? You mean like john murtha? ted kennedy? robert kkk byrd?
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:36:31am |
this website is gonna be the death of my nascent college career...
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:38:26am |
Oh right, you may have not had the opportunity to enter yet.
Welcome to the CBS Cares Colonoscopy Sweepstakes!
This is an actual sweepstakes and, if you are the grand prize winner, we will fly you and a companion to New York where you will receive a free colonoscopy. You will also be given three nights' accommodation in a suite at the luxurious Loews Regency Hotel, which will include the night before you are "awarded" the colonoscopy.
What should you expect if you are the lucky winner?
Wasn’t Katie Couric enough?
/you know, everyone over 50 should have one but this is just beyond bizarre
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BlueCanuck Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:38:46am |
re: #104 rightside
LOL, no presidential term limits. PET was Prime Minister from 67 to 84 I believe with two small breaks in between, one loss, and a short retirement.
/could refresh on wiki but feeling lazy this morning.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:39:35am |
re: #106 Killian Bundy
I am sorry, but my lower intestinal tract is something only my doctor should care about besides myself. :p
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:40:12am |
re: #106 Killian Bundy
Oh right, you may have not had the opportunity to enter yet.
Welcome to the CBS Cares Colonoscopy Sweepstakes!
Wasn’t Katie Couric enough?
/you know, everyone over 50 should have one but this is just beyond bizarre
if they gave Katie one, the prep would make her disapear
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:41:55am |
re: #110 redc1c4
if they gave Katie one, the prep would make her disapear
/you'd think so, but no, she hung in there
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:43:51am |
re: #111 Killian Bundy
/you'd think so, but no, she hung in there
they must not have gotten all the shit out: give her another bottle of go-lytely
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:46:39am |
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littleoldlady Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:48:07am |
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BlueCanuck Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:49:53am |
re: #112 rightside
Okay, okay. Here's his Bio. And I was off a small touch. :)
/Essentially he was Prime minister from before my birth till after I started high school.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:52:33am |
re: #116 littleoldlady
What does that reuters article say?
/not coming up for me...
/try again, it's a valid link
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:54:16am |
re: #116 littleoldlady
What does that reuters article say?
/not coming up for me...
Buy Fruitcup!
The Dow breached a six-year low in the holiday-shortened week amid mounting fears that the White House would nationalize banks, thus wiping out shareholders.
Stocks pared losses in the final hours of trading on Friday after the White House said it strongly believed in a privately held bank system. For details, see [ID:nN20418647]
"We don't care about anything but bank details at this point," said Robert Francello, head of equity trading for Apex Capital hedge fund in San Francisco. "It's all about bank details and a bank rescue."
With indexes at multiyear lows, the focus will be on battered banks Citigroup (C.N) and Bank of America (BAC.N), two of the cheapest stocks on the Dow, after a top U.S. senator on Friday said short-term nationalization for some banks was possible.
The fate of both companies will have important consequences for the sector and the broad U.S. economy that is in the throes of an ever-deepening recession, analysts said.
"We're dependent on seeing some stability in the financial sector," said Steve Goldman, market strategist for Weeden & Co in Greenwich, Connecticut.
"Each day we walk into the market and we see them down 5 to 8 percent. It makes it difficult for stocks to advance."
For the week, the Dow fell 6.2 percent and the S&P dropped 6.9 percent, while the Nasdaq stumbled 6.1 percent. It was the Dow's lowest close since October 2002.
The economy's troubles are likely to be confirmed by corporate results to be released this week by bellwethers Home Depot (HD.N), Target Corp (TGT.N) and Dell (DELL.O).
Investors will also parse through reams of data this week, including the Case-Schiller index of home prices, sales of both existing and new homes, and Friday's preliminary report on U.S. gross domestic product for the fourth quarter. The Commerce Department issued an advance report on fourth-quarter GDP last month that showed the economy had contracted by a 3.8 percent annual rate.
The data will provide some clues as to the state of the fragile U.S. housing market, the eye of the economic storm that triggered the credit crunch.
"It will be important to watch the home sales data," said Alan Gayle, senior investment strategist of RidgeWorth Investments. "If home sales are steady or they tick up ever so slightly that will be an encouraging sign."
Gayle added that investors should watch what is happening with the "inventory overhang" of unsold homes...
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soxfan4life Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:55:40am |
re: #87 redc1c4
i'm considering brass, copper and lead.
Lots of lead myself, before they make the manufacturers put serial numbers on it and increase the cost.
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:58:30am |
re: #117 BlueCanuck
Thanks for that. I couldn't find that link I was talking about at macleans. It was basically about being ashamed for all the obama worship up there.
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 1:59:05am |
re: #120 littleoldlady
Thanks :-)
no problemo: i has lots of internet cookies to serve with the fruitcup: Killian says so.
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littleoldlady Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:00:09am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
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BlueCanuck Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:02:59am |
Good morning littleoldlady. Fruitcup goodness is appreciated.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:05:43am |
re: #125 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
Good morning! I'm hammering away at my computer, trying to pump out a take-home midterm essay for tomorrow.
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littleoldlady Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:06:11am |
Sharmuta! :-)
BlueCanuck! :-)
red! :-)
Killian! :-)
soxfan! :-)
/that's as far as I scrolled up ;-)
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littleoldlady Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:06:42am |
Matrix! :-)
It's already tomorrow!
/what subject?
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:08:28am |
re: #133 littleoldlady
Matrix! :-)
It's already tomorrow!
/what subject?
Econ 101 "How *not* to manage a national economy"?
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:09:29am |
re: #134 Sharmuta
Gee, red. What's in this fruitcup? Advil?
depending upon your schedule, that might be handy.
personally, i prefer naprosyn.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:09:51am |
re: #133 littleoldlady
Matrix! :-)
It's already tomorrow!
/what subject?
20th Century Germany. This is not the same class as the "Third Reich and the Jews" one, though.
I have to write a 4 to 5 page paper, agreeing with or disagreeing with (or dismissing it totally) this question --
"3. The Nazis had to be all things to all people in order to win power. That was precisely the problem once they had achieved it. Discuss."
I'm taking the position of them having to be all things to all people in order to win power, but once they had power, they used the popular support (and specific events) they accrued to their advantage in order to get their agenda and regime into place.
/sounds familiar
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Erik The Red Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:11:41am |
re: #125 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
{lol} tahnks for fruitcup.
Morning Lizards. Crazy busy in lurk mode most of the day.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:11:42am |
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littleoldlady Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:13:54am |
re: #137 TheMatrix31
The Nazis were all about HOPE and CHANGE, Matrix.
/plus appealing to the German psyche on a visceral level.
No matter. Prove your position with examples, and you have an essay.
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Sharmuta Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:14:39am |
re: #137 TheMatrix31
I would say something, but you'd have to rewrite your paper, so I won't.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:15:24am |
re: #142 Sharmuta
I would say something, but you'd have to rewrite your paper, so I won't.
I only have two paragraphs done ;)
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Sharmuta Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:16:17am |
The nazis were all about stopping the commies until they got power, then they were all about expanding their power and genocide.
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:16:32am |
re: #142 Sharmuta
I would say something, but you'd have to rewrite your paper, so I won't.
i would say something, but i think i'll hit it, since the BEMNT crew is showing up...
hasta y'all...
L8r!
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Sharmuta Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:19:57am |
The nazis were fascists, and like the Duce, hitler came to power in a compromise situation. They didn't need to be all things to all people, jut the right thing to enough people to force the hands of others in power go wedge their way in.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:20:56am |
re: #144 Sharmuta
The nazis were all about stopping the commies until they got power, then they were all about expanding their power and genocide.
Oh yeah, I'm incorporating that tidbit into the paper as well.
I really don't like this structure of the class though. Grade's based on a midterm and a final and that's about it. It's easier in terms of work to do, but a nice bit of pressure considering I don't believe that essays are my strong suit.
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Sharmuta Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:21:01am |
re: #147 Sharmuta
"jut the right thing". LOL That should be "just". I blame the laced fruitcup.
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Sharmuta Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:23:10am |
re: #149 TheMatrix31
Well- I personally wouldn't go with the "all things to all people". It was a parliamentary systems there. They just needed enough to get their foot in the door.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:23:44am |
re: #147 Sharmuta
The nazis were fascists, and like the Duce, hitler came to power in a compromise situation. They didn't need to be all things to all people, jut the right thing to enough people to force the hands of others in power go wedge their way in.
Yep. Sly bastards they were. This is the end of my intro paragraph. ,
"The question remains, did the Nazis have to be everything to everybody in order to achieve their power? Not necessarily, because they had direct opposition on the extreme left. However once they came to power, they used the mass popularity that they accrued, as well as specific events, to push forth their agenda and expand their power."
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Hengineer Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:29:07am |
re: #158 rightside
Underway, shift colors!
More like:
USS blah blah commencing approach to port, all stations standby
USS blah blah Captain whatshisname, officers and crew and welcome alongside USNS damnit. Standby to receive our shotlines, forward and midships, onboard blah, shoot on signal.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:29:14am |
re: #156 Sharmuta
That would be a better essay, Kiddo.
We'll see what happens. It's a low pressure essay, despite the grade implications. No real sources necessary (unless I use the books assigned in class), and he wants us to mainly use what we've learned in lectures and stuff, put it in our own words, and make an argument based on it.
Shouldn't be too bad. I'm dreading tomorrow night (tonight?) though, I'm going to have to read 191 pages of a book about abortion for a 10 minute quiz on Tuesday. Hate that topic with a passion.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:29:59am |
/Is it safe?
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:31:28am |
re: #159 Hengineer
Ahh, those were the days. How have you been?
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:32:17am |
re: #137 TheMatrix31
The Nazis were pretty systematic in their approach; but I don't think they were everything to everyone or even needed to be. They did more to subvert the mainstream political discussion to things that were largely irrelevant to the political reality of Germany.
They were able to make masterful use of the press, which Hitler called 'school for grownups' (paraphrasing obviously) even before they had consolidated real power, by being en vogue and edgy. No need to appeal to issues that people should and do care about when you can mold what they are caring about to match the issues you are promoting.
This also should all sound familiar.
Sounds like you have a good start so far though.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:33:50am |
European markets are up anywhere from 1/2% to just under 3% right now- with the notable exception of the Stockholm exchagne. Probably something Saab-related holding it down...
/wonder how much of this and what- if any- gains on the NYSE and NASDAQ later on today is just bargain-huntiners showing up en-masse.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:33:52am |
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Hengineer Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:35:10am |
re: #164 rightside
Ahh, those were the days. How have you been?
sorta busy, we've been busy fueling up ships who've been playing pirate wargames.
I know because my dad told me after he said he read about it in a news story somewhere.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:36:02am |
re: #166 Fenway_Nation
/wonder how much of this and what- if any- gains on the NYSE and NASDAQ later on today is just bargain-huntiners showing up en-masse.
/still holding triple digit DOW futures
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:36:17am |
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:42:18am |
re: #168 Hengineer
We'd have to get most of our news from outside the ship while underway. We didn't SHF gear, we used inmarsat. Dialup speed for 365 people at once.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 2:51:37am |
re: #171 rightside
Port Royal status, if you know, besides drydock?
/that's still a popular blog search, weeks later, M/V Dove too
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:10:46am |
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:16:41am |
ETR
/estimated time of return to service?
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:24:07am |
re: #175 Irish Rose
Good morning, lizards.
A new day dawns.
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:29:08am |
re: #174 Killian Bundy
The Port Royal (CG-73) is an Aegis Cruiser. The bow configuration is called a "hurricane bow" The USS Cole (DDG-67) is an Aegis destroyer, thus, the difference in the bows.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:32:34am |
re: #178 rightside
The Port Royal (CG-73) is an Aegis Cruiser. The bow configuration is called a "hurricane bow" The USS Cole (DDG-67) is an Aegis destroyer, thus, the difference in the bows.
/okay, I think I get it, looks more "bulbous" on the destroyer?
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:38:56am |
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summergurl Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:39:24am |
Good Morning Lizards -
Drudge has BO wearing a tux again - seems like that is all he does - host things...
GET TO WORK BUDDY!
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:40:12am |
re: #182 NYCHardhat
Good morning, taxpayers.
DOW still hanging at +80, off the highs.
/by the end of this week, we'll know what's happening, probably
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:41:17am |
re: #187 summergurl
Good Morning Lizards -
Drudge has BO wearing a tux again - seems like that is all he does - host things...
GET TO WORK BUDDY!
Maitre D In Cheif?
OBama ,,, Barry Obama ,, shaken ,, not stirred?
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NYCHardhat Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:41:34am |
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Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:43:16am |
re: #184 rightside
The hurricane bow is not installed on destroyers. Definitely a difference in the two, but the destroyer is wider than the cruiser, lower center of gravity and all that.
/all sonar, all classified
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:43:57am |
re: #190 sattv4u2
Maitre D In Cheif?
OBama ,,, Barry Obama ,, shaken ,, not stirred?
President James Bond.
Hey, even though he's British, I'll take him. At least he's willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish his mission and keep people safe.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:43:57am |
re: #187 summergurl
Are you sure you really want to see this president get to work? He's basically started doing all the shit that I was hoping he'd avoid over 4 years in less than 30 days...
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:46:29am |
re: #187 summergurl
Good Morning Lizards -
Drudge has BO wearing a tux again - seems like that is all he does - host things...
GET TO WORK BUDDY!
Doing what? Nationalizing two banks?
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summergurl Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:47:26am |
re: #191 NYCHardhat
Thanks for the warning, I was able to put down my coffee cup before I sloshed it all over the screen from hysterically laughing
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:48:00am |
re: #187 summergurl
Oops! I didn't meant to bite your head off.
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abolitionist Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:49:01am |
The Real Prize - A guest post by Rancino.
There recently was the death of a 98-year-old lady named Irena Sendler.
During WWII, Irena got permission to work in the Warsaw Ghetto as a Plumbing/Sewer specialist.
She had an ulterior motive… [snip]
During her time and course of doing this, she managed to smuggle out and save 2500 kids/infants. She was caught, and the Nazi’s broke both her legs and arms and beat her severely.
[snip]Last year Irena was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize ...
She LOST.
Al Gore won for doing a slide show on Global Warming.
A small correction to the above:
Last year In 2007 Irena was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize
Irena Sendler, February 15, 1910 – May 12, 2008
Life in a Jar
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summergurl Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:49:59am |
re: #197 MandyManners
Oops! I didn't meant to bite your head off.
I didn't take it that way - no worries...
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jim in virginia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:54:19am |
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jim in virginia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:56:40am |
re: #193 TheMatrix31
President James Bond.
Hey, even though he's British, I'll take him. At least he's willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish his mission and keep people safe.
From the kids' 8th grade science class:
Bond. Ionic bond. Taken, not shared.
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:56:50am |
re: #198 abolitionist
It's best not to look at who else won throughout recent history. Al Gore is a saint by comparison to many.
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abolitionist Mon, Feb 23, 2009 3:59:39am |
re: #198 abolitionist
Irena Sendler -VS- Al Gore
Good on ya, Glenn
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:01:55am |
Time to go--have a great day, Lizards!
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:02:11am |
Domestic violence.
What are the odds she will come out publicly against him after it's all comes out? Calling N.O.W.
This surprised me
There are an estimated 4.8 million domestic violence attacks on women and another 2.9 million attacks on men each year, according to the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.
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aussiemagpie Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:04:02am |
G'day from Down Under to{everyone}!
Mini rant of the night coming up
I am heartily sick and tired of hearing our pollies blaming EVERYTHING on:
1. The Global Financial Crisis
2. Climate Change
It's never, ever, ever, bad policies, or incompetence on their part or bureaucratic stuffups or just self serving party politics...
And there are people who believe all this sh*t!
And never let a camera get past PM Rudd - he makes sure he's right there all ready and smirking for the lovingly created photo opportunities...
And I will spare you the rant about our totally corrupt, incompetent NSW State Government...
There, that feels much better :-)
One story tonight has caught my attention
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:07:00am |
Now, the 27-year-old illegal immigrant from El Salvador appears to stand on the edge of one of the capital city's most enduring murder mysteries. Washington police have indicated they are about to arrest a suspect in the 2001 murder of former federal intern Chandra Levy, and Guandique reportedly is their target.
SNIP
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Irish Rose Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:08:30am |
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:09:15am |
Good Morning Lizards!
I am thinking about running for President in 2012. As such I have started writing my first campaign speech. I am curious to see what my fellow Lizards think, so here goes:
"Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Catastrophe! Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Worst ever! Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis!
Thank you"
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:10:06am |
re: #210 Ford_Prefect
As long as you don't say hopenchange
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:10:45am |
re: #210 Ford_Prefect
Good Morning Lizards!
I am thinking about running for President in 2012. As such I have started writing my first campaign speech. I am curious to see what my fellow Lizards think, so here goes:
"Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Catastrophe! Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Worst ever! Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis!
Thank you"
Throw in "collective problem".
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Irish Rose Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:11:10am |
re: #210 Ford_Prefect
Good Morning Lizards!
I am thinking about running for President in 2012. As such I have started writing my first campaign speech. I am curious to see what my fellow Lizards think, so here goes:
"Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Catastrophe! Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Worst ever! Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis!
Thank you"
You forgot to add, "we MUST have more money NOW or millions of jobs will be lost!"
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aussiemagpie Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:13:36am |
re: #209 Irish Rose
What an asshole.
Hi, exactly the right description!
And I'm so glad he was nabbed...
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jim in virginia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:14:13am |
re: #206 rightside
There are an estimated 4.8 million domestic violence attacks on women and another 2.9 million attacks on men each year
I'm reminded of an ancient comic strip ("Bringing up Father"?) in which Maggie calls Jiggs "Insect " and throws a shoe at him.
Not that there is anything funny about domestic violence.
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aussiemagpie Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:15:33am |
re: #210 Ford_Prefect
Good Morning Lizards!
I am thinking about running for President in 2012. As such I have started writing my first campaign speech. I am curious to see what my fellow Lizards think, so here goes:
"Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Catastrophe! Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Worst ever! Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis!
Thank you"
Not long enough - another 50 crises at least...
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:15:58am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:16:29am |
re: #204 abolitionist
Irena Sendler -VS- Al Gore
Good on ya, Glenn
but,, But ,,BUT ,, aren't we supposed to despise Glenn Beck now !?!?!?!
// j/k
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:16:34am |
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:16:41am |
re: #216 aussiemagpie
Not long enough - another 50 crises at least...
Well, I don't want to cause a panic.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:17:22am |
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jim in virginia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:18:16am |
re: #210 Ford_Prefect
Good Morning Lizards!
I am thinking about running for President in 2012. As such I have started writing my first campaign speech. I am curious to see what my fellow Lizards think, so here goes:
"Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Catastrophe! Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Worst ever! Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis!
Thank you"
WE"RE ALL GOING TO DIIIE!
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3 wood Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:19:16am |
Good morning.
Look for the market to open on the upside as the futures are up, the Nikkei dropped but the Hang Seng was up.
Last weeks destruction of the financial sector was caused by investors loosing patience with Geithner and Obama and assuming that they would mess around untilt he banks go bankrupt and have to be nationalized.
Over the week end the story started circulating that the Fed's will buy up a 40% stake of common stock in Citigroup. The significance of this, if true, is that this means the shareholders equity will not be wiped out. So look for the market to at least stop plummeting for a little while, if not surge upwards a bit as the oversold financial sector attracts some buyers looking for bargains.
However, this Obama Administration already has earned a reputation on the Street as a group that can't shoot straight or say the same thing twice. So, the investors will be very cautious in putting a toe back in the water.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:19:16am |
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aussiemagpie Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:21:04am |
re: #220 Ford_Prefect
Well, I don't want to cause a panic.
OK, whittle it down to 45 more crises only then...that should create confidence!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:22:35am |
re: #223 3 wood
However, this Obama Administration already has earned a reputation on the Street as a group that can't shoot straight or say the same thing twice.
By the markets reactions, it would be better if they didn't even say something ONCE!
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jim in virginia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:24:36am |
re: #223 3 wood
Post election (November) analysis I heard was that the big problem with Paulsen and Bush was no one could predict what goverment would do. Some banks were allowed to fail; Wachovia was forced to merge, Citi they bailed out. Prediction was that with O, Summers, Geithner, business would at least know what to expect.
That didn't last long.
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summergurl Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:24:40am |
re: #223 3 wood
Good morning.
Look for the market to open on the upside as the futures are up, the Nikkei dropped but the Hang Seng was up.
Last weeks destruction of the financial sector was caused by investors loosing patience with Geithner and Obama and assuming that they would mess around untilt he banks go bankrupt and have to be nationalized.
Over the week end the story started circulating that the Fed's will buy up a 40% stake of common stock in Citigroup. The significance of this, if true, is that this means the shareholders equity will not be wiped out. So look for the market to at least stop plummeting for a little while, if not surge upwards a bit as the oversold financial sector attracts some buyers looking for bargains.
However, this Obama Administration already has earned a reputation on the Street as a group that can't shoot straight or say the same thing twice. So, the investors will be very cautious in putting a toe back in the water.
I agree with Rush when he says all of BO's promises have an expiration date
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:24:41am |
re: #226 aussiemagpie
OK, whittle it down to 45 more crises only then...that should create confidence!
Alright. And I will smile as I say it so people know that I am on their side.
How are you doing, btw? Are the fires still going down there?
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:25:42am |
re: #229 summergurl
I agree with Rush when he says all of BO's promises have an expiration date
They only last as long as it takes for him to say them.
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:26:54am |
re: #228 jim in virginia
As a rule of thumb, I find that people that don't know what they are doing tend to be fairly unpredictable.
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3 wood Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:33:08am |
re: #228 jim in virginia
The problem with Geithner is this. If you have ever professionally managed an investment fund (I have), you quickly develop the ability to recognize someone who has been there and done it and knows what they are doing, rather than someone who just has book knowledge. Geithner is clearly the second. He reminds me of the broker who cold called me a few years ago and did not know the difference between several securities he was hawking to me on the phone.
Having a Treasury Chief who does not really know what he is doing is not a good thing.
A lot of what is going on now in the market is that "risk" is being repriced. For about 10 years the investing public did not really care about risk much, so it was way undervalued. Now the price of assuming risk has skyrocketed to the point where few people are willing to assume any risk. This is proven by the dumping of stock at almost any price and the flight to treasuries and gold.
Well. to reverse that trend, you have to remove risk from the market by clarifying what is going to be done about the toxic assets. Geithner's prat fall followed by a vanishing act has only increased the perception of risk by the investors in the market.
Geithner was supposed to be this genius, but instead he has proven to be an empty suit who only knows how to cheat on his taxes.
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aussiemagpie Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:35:18am |
re: #230 Ford_Prefect
Alright. And I will smile as I say it so people know that I am on their side.
How are you doing, btw? Are the fires still going down there?
Hi! All's well at Chez Aussiemagpie :-)
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:37:44am |
A black-tie dinner for the governors? Way to wine and dine them, CBBHO.
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summergurl Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:38:45am |
re: #236 MandyManners
A black-tie dinner for the governors? Way to wine and dine them, CBBHO.
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summergurl Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:39:22am |
re: #237 summergurl
Yes, he's campaigning again ---or still
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:39:41am |
I reckon McDonads doesn't give a shit about women getting the hell beaten out of them in their restaurants or else that company would pay the medical bills of the worker who came to her defense and got shot.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:40:07am |
re: #238 summergurl
Yes, he's campaigning again ---or still
Perpetual campaigning = perpetual revolution.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:41:03am |
re: #228 jim in virginia
Hey, Jim! I'm in your hood!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:43:34am |
re: #242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How's everybody?
I've been told I'm very good,,,
((( hey ,, I paid for the hour. It was all part of the "deal" !)))
//
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summergurl Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:43:59am |
re: #240 MandyManners
Perpetual campaigning = perpetual revolution.
Yeah, can't wait for the tea parties to start...
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aussiemagpie Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:44:37am |
Goodness!
There was a shark attack on February 12th here in Sydney at Bondi Beach ...the shark had a good bite at the surfer, who had his hand reattached successfully...
Tests show it was a great White!
IF Sydneysiders thought they were safe from a great white shark attack, think again.
Tests this morning confirmed a great white was responsible for the attack on surfer Glenn Orgias at Bondi Beach on February 12.
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littleoldlady Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:44:45am |
Anybody else having trouble with 1/2 - 3/4 of the internet today?
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:45:05am |
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aussiemagpie Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:46:23am |
re: #246 littleoldlady
Anybody else having trouble with 1/2 - 3/4 of the internet today?
Hello {littleoldlady}! :-)
No problems here - yet!
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:46:41am |
re: #239 MandyManners
Yeah that pisses me off he tried to prevent an assault on the premises and was shot for his problems and McDonalds won't pay. Their excuse is they inform employees not to get involved.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:47:48am |
Paper's done...time for some Wings.
Good night!
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:47:55am |
re: #246 littleoldlady What kind of problem? Loading? Depressing News? Nothing out there?
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:48:37am |
re: #244 summergurl
Yeah, can't wait for the tea parties to start...
I hope the MFM covers this counter-revolution. I'm glad Michelle Malkin is on it.
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Buster Bunny Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:48:44am |
re: #246 littleoldlady
Anybody else having trouble with 1/2 - 3/4 of the internet today?
Dont worry, just reboot the internet and everything will be ok ;-)
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littleoldlady Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:49:01am |
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littleoldlady Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:49:49am |
BUNNY! :-)
I tried that.
/verybigsigh...
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:50:23am |
re: #255 littleoldlady
///Oh That's Talloldman's doing he says you do to much interweb shopping.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:50:45am |
re: #249 Rustler
Yeah that pisses me off he tried to prevent an assault on the premises and was shot for his problems and McDonalds won't pay. Their excuse is they inform employees not to get involved.
Words fail me. Well, not really but, the words in my mind are rather vicious and vulgar.
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littleoldlady Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:51:09am |
re: #257 Rustler
///Oh That's Talloldman's doing he says you do to much interweb shopping.
if he knew how to work the computer I'd worry!
;-)
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Buster Bunny Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:52:02am |
re: #255 littleoldlady
aussie! :-)
re: #250 rightside
Rebooted, reset the modem...
Can't get ebay, aol or yahoo. :-(
So the liloldlady porn sites are working fine?
It may be a major server is down. Dont panic at your end if you get 70-90% of everything. You'll probably find there was a reason in the morning.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:52:03am |
re: #234 aussiemagpie
It is terrible what is going on there. I am glad that you are alright.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:52:11am |
re: #258 MandyManners
I always thought businesses were supposed to try to deescalate Confrontations within the store while another employee dialed 911 for police assistance.
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:53:36am |
re: #262 Rustler
Nope. No Good Samaritan laws. The policy is don't get yourself shot.
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littleoldlady Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:54:51am |
re: #260 Buster Bunny
So the liloldlady porn sites are working fine?
It may be a major server is down. Dont panic at your end if you get 70-90% of everything. You'll probably find there was a reason in the morning.
Seems to be working perfectly. ;-)
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:55:08am |
re: #263 Scion9
The man wasn't threatening her with the gun it was a verbal altercation had escalated to physical the employee interferred and the man who was assaulting his girlfriend went out to the car came back in and shot said employee.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:56:20am |
re: #263 Scion9
Not about being a Good samaritan, but if you see something occuring on your premises and allow it to continue you open the door to civil suits.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:57:05am |
re: #264 littleoldlady
Well he knows better than to deny you chocolate :P.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:57:19am |
re: #262 Rustler
I always thought businesses were supposed to try to deescalate Confrontations within the store while another employee dialed 911 for police assistance.
I've not heard if anyone called 911 during the initial fight.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:58:10am |
re: #265 Rustler
The man wasn't threatening her with the gun it was a verbal altercation had escalated to physical the employee interferred and the man who was assaulting his girlfriend went out to the car came back in and shot said employee.
The employee was shot outside. But, as far as I know, it was still on McDonald's premises.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:58:31am |
Good morning all...I am just in from the salt mines. Was it a rough night? Anyone get the hook?
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:58:32am |
re: #266 Rustler
Perhaps; but I'm willing to bet that McDonald's is a lot more likely to be compelled to pay out over an employee's death or gunshot wounds than they will for some woman's black eye and busted lip.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 4:59:14am |
re: #269 MandyManners Ahh the employee was outside. Story I had read indicated the employee escorted the man out but didn't mention whether the shooting was inside or out.
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beblebrox Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:00:07am |
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aussiemagpie Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:00:27am |
re: #261 Ford_Prefect
It is terrible what is going on there. I am glad that you are alright.
It's just awful, these latest fires are now IN Melbourne's outer eastern suburbs - it's the second largest city in OZ with 4 million people
These suburbs are in bushland and in the Dandenong hills - definitely fire prone country
Our friends in Melbourne who lived in Upper Beaconsfield, lost their home in the Ash Wednesday fires of 1983
We're safe and sound here in Sydney, it rained again earlier :-)
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:00:41am |
re: #271 Scion9
McDonald's had to pay out over a woman to stupid to realise coffee was hot. You give to much credit to the Intelligence of out Litigious society.
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Buster Bunny Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:02:11am |
re: #269 MandyManners
The employee was shot outside. But, as far as I know, it was still on McDonald's premises.
I SAID STRAWBERRY SHAKE AND LARGE FRIES GODDAMN IT ! **BANG** **BANG**
I can understand how he feels. Drive thru is a biatch.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:02:26am |
Here is an article that I think any anti Iraq war people should read. This is the question that I ask every one of them and they can never adequately answer. "Should we not have removed Saddam?"
Imagining a World in Which We Did Not Remove Saddam
Rather than have an infant parliament in Baghdad, with hundreds of thousands of Iraqi servicemen fighting theocrats and terrorists across their territory, we would still have had to deal with a dictator’s malevolent aims. And while pacifying post-Saddam Iraq has constituted a large fixation of our resources and attention since 2003, a Saddamist Iraq in 2009 — free of sanctions and inspectors, void of no-fly zones, gaming billions out of the UN’s Oil-for-Food Program, transferring near-trillions in profit into subsidies and weaponry for terrorists — would have been an equally significant and dangerous, albeit different, preoccupation of ours.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:02:26am |
re: #272 Rustler
Ahh the employee was outside. Story I had read indicated the employee escorted the man out but didn't mention whether the shooting was inside or out.
The video showed him wrestling the perp out the door then coming back in and collapsing.
Where the hell was the manager with the keys to lock out the bad guy? Where was the manager during the assault on the customer?
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:03:20am |
re: #275 Rustler
McDonald's had to pay out over a woman to stupid to realise coffee was hot. You give to much credit to the Intelligence of out Litigious society.
The case of the hot coffee was far more involved than that.
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littleoldlady Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:03:34am |
re: #273 beblebrox
Hiya beblebrox! Long time no type to! :-)
Oh goodie! A technical explanation. THANKS!
/I don't understand it so it must be true! ;-)
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:03:44am |
re: #278 MandyManners
Probably attending mandatory diversity training.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:04:04am |
re: #276 Buster Bunny
I SAID STRAWBERRY SHAKE AND LARGE FRIES GODDAMN IT ! **BANG** **BANG**
I can understand how he feels. Drive thru is a biatch.
Ummm...he was beating the hell out of a woman inside the restoh never mind.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:04:43am |
re: #281 rightside
Probably attending mandatory diversity training.
Where was the assistant manager then? This is a spectacular failure of management.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:05:17am |
re: #283 taxfreekiller
Who has the lowest opinion of one another,,
Us of Chuck Shummer
or
Chuck Shummer of us.?
We need to poll him.
get it?
That's a hard one.
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:06:24am |
re: #275 Rustler
Well, to be fair, it was some pretty hot coffee.
I've worked retail jobs for big companies before, which I'm sure don't have policies drastically different than McDonald's. The official policy is don't get involved, and call the cops.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:06:24am |
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Buster Bunny Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:06:45am |
re: #284 MandyManners
Where was the assistant manager then? This is a spectacular failure of management.
trying not to get beaten up or shot? Heck .. that would be my guess.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:07:37am |
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opnion Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:07:46am |
Good morning Lizards. Son of a *%�@! First I do not get the Heisman Trophy & now snubbed by the Oscars. Tell me that the man ain't holding me down.
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Buster Bunny Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:09:56am |
re: #291 opnion
Good morning Lizards. Son of a *%&#@! First I do not get the Heisman Trophy & now snubbed by the Oscars. Tell me that the man ain't holding me down.
Repressed anger is not good. Sometimes it makes you go green and rip shirts. But only if you've been exposed to Gamma radiation in the past.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:09:59am |
re: #287 Scion9
Well, to be fair, it was some pretty hot coffee.
I've worked retail jobs for big companies before, which I'm sure don't have policies drastically different than McDonald's. The official policy is don't get involved, and call the cops.
The coffee MELTED the little old lady's hose into her skin, it was that hot.
About that policy: conitnue to let a customer have the hell beaten out of her while waiting for the police to come? In some areas, police response times are not always fast. Someone could be killed before they get there.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:10:40am |
re: #287 Scion9
You always call the cops. But you don't allow someone to beat the shit out of anyone on your watch. The don't get involved stuff typically means don't escalate the situation by interjecting your self into the arguement. You ask the offender to leave inform him police are enroute and try not to turn it physical.
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opnion Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:10:51am |
re: #292 Buster Bunny
Repressed anger is not good. Sometimes it makes you go green and rip shirts. But only if you've been exposed to Gamma radiation in the past.
So true.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:10:59am |
re: #293 MandyManners
The coffee MELTED the little old lady's hose into her skin, it was that hot.
About that policy: conitnue to let a customer have the hell beaten out of her while waiting for the police to come? In some areas, police response times are not always fast. Someone could be killed before they get there.
Damned if you don't, dead if you do.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:11:01am |
re: #289 Buster Bunny
trying not to get beaten up or shot? Heck .. that would be my guess.
There was no gun present inside the restaurant. Why wasn't management at least present in the vicinity?
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:11:18am |
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chicago blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:12:49am |
*creeping groggily to party*
Morning all.
*Raises coffee pot*
Coffee?
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:12:55am |
re: #293 MandyManners
Unfortunately that would still be the company's official policy. That doesn't mean that simple human nature shouldn't take over and cause a person to intervene. You ask where the management was. What about the other costumers?
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Buster Bunny Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:13:14am |
This is the third year I've been snubbed for an Oscar.
Maybe I should act first?
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chicago blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:13:53am |
re: #300 Ford_Prefect
((FORD!))
*waves pot of fresh coffee*
Loook what I've gooot...
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opnion Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:13:58am |
re: #301 Buster Bunny
This is the third year I've been snubbed for an Oscar.
Maybe I should act first?
See there are too many rules.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:14:59am |
re: #299 chicago blonde
*creeping groggily to party*
Morning all.
*Raises coffee pot*
Coffee?
Morning Blondie. Got mine already, thanks.
*Raises mug.
Cheers.
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:16:24am |
re: #293 MandyManners
I'm not endorsing it; I'm just saying that is what corporate policy is. McDonald's employees are not bodyguards or cops; and the lack of responsiveness by law enforcement isn't the fault, nor the problem of McDonald's as a company.
Creating a policy that encourages or demands employees to get involved in resolving conflicts is practically begging to be destroyed in court. I'm willing to bet a lawsuit would be levied without any actual incidents taking place. That is unless McDonald's is providing the proper training and protective gear to their 16 year old employees to properly do the job.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:16:28am |
re: #301 Buster Bunny
This is the third year I've been snubbed for an Oscar.
Maybe I should act first?
Why? Many past and present winners can't !
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:16:41am |
re: #296 Wishing
Damned if you don't, dead if you do.
The worker should not have followed the bad guy outside but, that could've been prevented if a manager was there to call the worker back into the building once he chased the bad guy out.
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Chicago Blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:17:48am |
re: #304 Ford_Prefect
Cheers. So we're talking about Oscars and fast food joints?
Wasn't a fast food employee fired from Pizza Hut for defending himself? He was able to protect himself, only to get sacked by management.
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songbird Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:18:08am |
re: #293 MandyManners
The coffee MELTED the little old lady's hose into her skin, it was that hot.
Will panty hose melt at 212 degrees Farenheit?
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:18:08am |
re: #299 chicago blonde
Morning CB, thank you, had my fill already.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:18:19am |
re: #300 Ford_Prefect
Unfortunately that would still be the company's official policy. That doesn't mean that simple human nature shouldn't take over and cause a person to intervene. You ask where the management was. What about the other costumers?
From the video, I only saw the female victim initially. When the worker came back in, there were two or three.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:20:14am |
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:20:34am |
re: #310 songbird
somewhere around 150 degrees farenheit causes shinking and heat damage to Nylon.
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Mithrax Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:23:17am |
re: #315 Rustler
somewhere around 150 degrees farenheit causes shinking and heat damage to Nylon.
Now how many people are trying to make shrinkage jokes?
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songbird Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:23:39am |
re: #315 Rustler
somewhere around 150 degrees farenheit causes shinking and heat damage to Nylon.
Does 150 degrees cause second degree burns? I don't recall.
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Chicago Blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:24:39am |
I found the link on Hot Air -
[Link: hotair.com...]
I hope this thing works. It was an employee that was fired in Iowa for defending himself, instead of just rolling over. As a rule I hate fast food places and this stuff is why.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:24:54am |
re: #317 songbird Likely depends on the substance and duration of the burns. 150 degree heat from a blowdryer no but 150 degree water due to it's higher coefficient of heat transfer likely would.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:27:32am |
re: #319 Rustler Age of the person involved likely has an effect as well the elderly tend to have thinner more sensitive skin allowing more severe burns to develope faster than a younger person with healthy skin would.
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Taqyia2Me Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:27:42am |
When Phuck Schumer said something along the lines of...the lowly homeowner...or something to that effect, well, I've been ballistic toward him and everything he says ever since.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:28:22am |
Burns are classified based upon their depth.
A first degree burn is superficial and causes local inflammation of the skin. Sunburns often are categorized as first degree burns. The inflammation is characterized by pain, redness, and a mild amount of swelling. The skin may be very tender to touch.
Second degree burns are deeper and in addition to the pain, redness and inflammation, there is also blistering of the skin.
Third degree burns are deeper still, involving all layers of the skin, in effect killing that area of skin. Because the nerves and blood vessels are damaged, third degree burns appear white and leathery and tend to be relatively painless.
Burns are not static and may mature. Over a few hours a first degree burn may involve deeper structures and become second degree. Think of a sunburn that blisters the next day. Similarly, second degree burns may evolve into third degree burns.
Regardless of the type of burn, inflammation and fluid accumulation in and around the wound occur. Moreover, it should be noted that the skin is the body's first defense against infection by microorganisms. A burn is also a break in the skin, and the risk of infection exists both at the site of the injury and potentially throughout the body.
Only the epidermis has the ability to regenerate itself. Burns that extend deeper may cause permanent injury and scarring and not allow the skin in that area to return to normal function.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:28:53am |
re: #277 Ford_Prefect
Here is an article that I think any anti Iraq war people should read. This is the question that I ask every one of them and they can never adequately answer. "Should we not have removed Saddam?"
It doesn't ever seem to matter. They can't give up their vitriol about the WAr and Bush because it is who they are. They define themselves by who they hate.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:30:36am |
re: #322 Rustler
Burns are classified based upon their depth.
A first degree burn is superficial and causes local inflammation of the skin. Sunburns often are categorized as first degree burns. The inflammation is characterized by pain, redness, and a mild amount of swelling. The skin may be very tender to touch.
Second degree burns are deeper and in addition to the pain, redness and inflammation, there is also blistering of the skin.
Third degree burns are deeper still, involving all layers of the skin, in effect killing that area of skin. Because the nerves and blood vessels are damaged, third degree burns appear white and leathery and tend to be relatively painless.
Burns are not static and may mature. Over a few hours a first degree burn may involve deeper structures and become second degree. Think of a sunburn that blisters the next day. Similarly, second degree burns may evolve into third degree burns.
Regardless of the type of burn, inflammation and fluid accumulation in and around the wound occur. Moreover, it should be noted that the skin is the body's first defense against infection by microorganisms. A burn is also a break in the skin, and the risk of infection exists both at the site of the injury and potentially throughout the body.
Only the epidermis has the ability to regenerate itself. Burns that extend deeper may cause permanent injury and scarring and not allow the skin in that area to return to normal function.
And I learned about sun sickness that accompanied my daughter's bad sunburn which included extreme nausea, and extreme fatigue.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:11am |
re: #322 Rustler
Burns are classified based upon their depth.
A first degree burn is superficial and causes local inflammation of the skin. Sunburns often are categorized as first degree burns. The inflammation is characterized by pain, redness, and a mild amount of swelling. The skin may be very tender to touch.
Second degree burns are deeper and in addition to the pain, redness and inflammation, there is also blistering of the skin.
Third degree burns are deeper still, involving all layers of the skin, in effect killing that area of skin. Because the nerves and blood vessels are damaged, third degree burns appear white and leathery and tend to be relatively painless.
Burns are not static and may mature. Over a few hours a first degree burn may involve deeper structures and become second degree. Think of a sunburn that blisters the next day. Similarly, second degree burns may evolve into third degree burns.
Regardless of the type of burn, inflammation and fluid accumulation in and around the wound occur. Moreover, it should be noted that the skin is the body's first defense against infection by microorganisms. A burn is also a break in the skin, and the risk of infection exists both at the site of the injury and potentially throughout the body.
Only the epidermis has the ability to regenerate itself. Burns that extend deeper may cause permanent injury and scarring and not allow the skin in that area to return to normal function.
Also, repeat sunburn in a certain area sets the stage for skin cancer. Mr DT developed skin cancer on his left arm that he always leans out the car window, and on the back of his shoulders, where he would burn after a day in the son as a young boy.
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Irish Rose Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:23am |
Good morning again, to all of the lizards who showed up after I fell back asleep on my keypad a while ago.
I have a bad case of strep throat, and I'm cranky as hell.
/is it Spring yet?
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opnion Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:33:37am |
Anybody have the body count of blocked accounts yesterday?
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Chicago Blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:33:40am |
re: #322 Rustler
I did not know all that about burns, thank you for posting that.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:34:07am |
re: #327 DistantThunder
Yeah I'm Fortuneate I Don't really burn. Hours and hours topless in Sinai proved that. I think I was the only person there who didn't burn and I spent more time uncovered than every one. I can remember maybe 2 or 3 times from my youth in which I got a sunburn and it was always very minor.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:34:21am |
Here is a great response to Eric Holder's 'coward' statement:
Racism, Eric Holder, my Son and Me
Why am I qualified to talk about racism? Simple: I am a middle-aged white American male -- this fact alone qualifies me as a racist in this Wonderland of political correctness that is the United States.
But my "racism" goes much deeper than particulars of gender and skin color. In fact, as a working writer and a retired politician, I have a lifelong pattern of "racism." I was called a "racist" twenty-five years ago when I voted against "hate crimes" legislation in the Idaho State Senate. I had this insane notion that all violent crimes were hate crimes -- clearly a racist thought (no doubt instilled by the white culture of hate that surrounded me).
I have been called a racist for writing that the science behind man made global warming is shaky -- and for defending Sarah Palin's acceptance speech for her vice presidential nomination at the RNC. Surely these are thoughts that spring from a childhood that must have been spent with the KKK.
During the past twenty-five years, I have been called a racist for writing about gun control, taxes, international banking, property rights, the Constitution, and abortion. All of these topics are obviously crucially related to race relations in the United States. How could I have been so blind?
In short, I am a racist because I am not a liberal. I am a racist because I do not agree with Eric Holder's politics. Not only am I a racist, Mr. Holder informs me, I am also a coward because I don't want to talk about being a racist.
Sorry for the long quote, but I couldn't break it up. The whole article is very good.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:34:49am |
re: #328 Irish Rose
Good morning again, to all of the lizards who showed up after I fell back asleep on my keypad a while ago.
I have a bad case of strep throat, and I'm cranky as hell.
/is it Spring yet?
You need sun - Vitamin D to fight off infections and boost your immune system. I assume you can get Vitamin D from the sun through a window - is that true? I have a son home from school, and Mr Dt with a bad sore throat and headache this morning.
"February makes me shiver...with every paper I deliver...bad news on the doorstep...I couldn't take one more step." - American Pie
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:34:52am |
re: #329 opnion
Anybody have the body count of blocked accounts yesterday?
yesterday also? I know the night before there were 9 on one thread alone!
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Chicago Blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:35:06am |
re: #328 Irish Rose
Morning Irish Rose. SO sorry you have strep - I know that's miserable. I'm dying for spring to get here too.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:37:26am |
re: #332 Ford_Prefect
Here is a great response to Eric Holder's 'coward' statement:
Racism, Eric Holder, my Son and Me
Sorry for the long quote, but I couldn't break it up. The whole article is very good.
read the article and it was excellent. Also says that his daughter-in-law who is white married to his black son never senses racism - Never ever. And she says that neither do any of their friends who are in mixed marriages. She says the subject never comes up. It's not an issue.
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Irish Rose Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:38:00am |
re: #336 Chicago Blonde
Morning Irish Rose. SO sorry you have strep - I know that's miserable. I'm dying for spring to get here too.
Damned awful, this round. I can't even swallow water without agonizing.
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Chicago Blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:38:21am |
re: #332 Ford_Prefect
Great article.
I hate true racism as much as anyone but the empty term "racist" is just a way to silence someone when you can't think of a better way. It's like the Sonic Screwdriver of the Left.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:39:46am |
re: #338 DistantThunder
read the article and it was excellent. Also says that his daughter-in-law who is white married to his black son never senses racism - Never ever. And she says that neither do any of their friends who are in mixed marriages. She says the subject never comes up. It's not an issue.
My son is married to a very good-looking young white woman. They have two (soon to be three) beautiful sons.[ii] Maybe my daughter-in-law carries the brunt of the racism. I called her the other day, told her I was writing this article, and asked her how bad the racism surrounding her marriage was. What was it like to walk into a store with a black husband and two little mixed race sons. Was she ever threatened? Was she ever afraid?She just laughed at the questions. (She tends to laugh at me -- must be a daughter-in-law thing.)
"Never," she replied in one word.
"Never what?" I asked.
"Racism. Never. Not once ... well, my ninty-year-old great grandmother didn't like the idea of me dating a ‘colored man.' I remember she really hurt my feelings. But, other than that, I can't think of anything. It just doesn't happen. People love my husband. They respect our family. We just don't have those problems. I don't think people have those problems."
She then told me about some of the mixed race marriages of some of her friends. None of them have problems either. When these couples get together, they don't even talk about racism -- because there isn't any.
But I think there is plenty of anti-white racism when black women see a black man married to a white woman. I've read several articles about in women's magazines - and the tone is very catty.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:39:59am |
re: #339 Irish Rose
Damned awful, this round. I can't even swallow water without agonizing.
Take pain medicine.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:40:35am |
re: #338 DistantThunder
Exactly. I know that racism still exists, but it is no longer institutionalized the way it once was. The author is clearly in a great position to have seen this progression and it was great that he had the courage to write what he did.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:40:57am |
re: #332 Ford_Prefect Great Article. Eric Holder is hte real coward in all this just as all the people who cry racist at the drop of a pin are cowards. They are afraid of civil discourse shaking hte foundations of their belief so cry out Racist at the top of their lungs and refuse to listen to another word you utter because the so truely feel terrified that the beliefs they have harbored over the years is wrong.
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Chicago Blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:41:20am |
re: #339 Irish Rose
Ugh. I think Mr. Blonde had it a few weeks ago. They couldn't even do a throat culture on him because of his gag reflex.
Spring is coming, slowly. This Saturday is the LAST DAY of February. That doesn't mean much in Chicago temp-wise, but it's the best I can do...
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:42:32am |
What people of other races may not realize is that white people change color. We can go to the beach and get a really great tan, or spray it on. No one around us judges us by our skin color because they know we are the same person REGARDLESS of the current skin color.
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Irish Rose Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:43:41am |
re: #345 Chicago Blonde
Ugh. I think Mr. Blonde had it a few weeks ago. They couldn't even do a throat culture on him because of his gag reflex.
Spring is coming, slowly. This Saturday is the LAST DAY of February. That doesn't mean much in Chicago temp-wise, but it's the best I can do...
March comes in like a lion, goes out like a lamb... I hope.
It's still snowing out there and I have to shovel the drive to go pick up a prescription, I don't wanna.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:44:17am |
I'm jumping in late, so I apologize if this has been mentioned.
Last night was a great example of the mass media manipulating people without most realizing what happened. Lara Logan did a 60 Minutes piece on how Iraq has turned around. The battle for Mosul was cited as the turning point. It was a good story, but it was a story that a fairminded media would have run before the last election. By holding that piece, it clearly hurt one side with regard to the primary issue (along with the economy) in the race for the White House. And by holding the story until now, it makes it look like the new administration turned things around with its policies. It was a story that easily could have been done sooner. There was not a lot of new stuff in it.
People better wake up and see how they're being "played."
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jester6 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:44:36am |
Hate to post and run but I came across something last night and wanted to share:
The revolution will not be televised. It will be reported on the last page of the Treasury Departments Monthly Report.
[Link: www.fms.treas.gov...]
Employment tax revenue - all of it withheld from paychecks - is relatively flat compared to last fiscal year. This would imply payrolls are relatively the same compared to last year.
However, income tax revenue - some withheld and some self reported - is down about 10% this fiscal year. The folks at the top who can adjust their income are starting to shrug.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:44:48am |
re: #344 Rustler
Great Article. Eric Holder is hte real coward in all this just as all the people who cry racist at the drop of a pin are cowards. They are afraid of civil discourse shaking hte foundations of their belief so cry out Racist at the top of their lungs and refuse to listen to another word you utter because the so truely feel terrified that the beliefs they have harbored over the years is wrong.
It's why Michelle thought that America was a mean country. Indoctrinated into racist ideology.
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opnion Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:46:36am |
re: #335 sattv4u2
yesterday also? I know the night before there were 9 on one thread alone!
Yesterday was a blood bath!
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Lincolntf Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:46:38am |
Morning all.
OT- Any football fans hear that Marvin Harrison has asked for his release from the Colts? Hmmm...I'd say he's still got some gas in the tank. Here's hoping the Pats pick him up. Too bad Indy doesn't need a QB.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:46:43am |
re: #350 jester6
Hate to post and run but I came across something last night and wanted to share:
The revolution will not be televised. It will be reported on the last page of the Treasury Departments Monthly Report.
[Link: www.fms.treas.gov...]
Employment tax revenue - all of it withheld from paychecks - is relatively flat compared to last fiscal year. This would imply payrolls are relatively the same compared to last year.
However, income tax revenue - some withheld and some self reported - is down about 10% this fiscal year. The folks at the top who can adjust their income are starting to shrug.
Don't leave us...we promise to be nicer and more respectful to you. Mitt predicted that capital would leave the country.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:46:55am |
re: #339 Irish Rose
Damned awful, this round. I can't even swallow water without agonizing.
I eat Welch's Juice Pops when I have a sore throat, it seems to be the only fluid I can handle!
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Chicago Blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:47:19am |
re: #347 Irish Rose
It never fails - when you need to go to a docget a scrip there's snow to deal with. Where are you?
I know here it never fails - except for 2 unusually warm Easters, it's generally very cold. For Easter Sunday I used to want those pretty pastel dresses as a little girl and as a big girl I want a new pair of strappy stiletto sandals. I gave up - I feel festive if I don't have to wear snowboots.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:47:35am |
re: #349 _RememberTonyC
I'm jumping in late, so I apologize if this has been mentioned.
Last night was a great example of the mass media manipulating people without most realizing what happened. Lara Logan did a 60 Minutes piece on how Iraq has turned around. The battle for Mosul was cited as the turning point. It was a good story, but it was a story that a fairminded media would have run before the last election. By holding that piece, it clearly hurt one side with regard to the primary issue (along with the economy) in the race for the White House. And by holding the story until now, it makes it look like the new administration turned things around with its policies. It was a story that easily could have been done sooner. There was not a lot of new stuff in it.
People better wake up and see how they're being "played."
Undoubtedly, and they can feel patriotic while they are doing it. We have to make sure that this is Bush's legacy.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:50:30am |
re: #357 DistantThunder
Undoubtedly, and they can feel patriotic while they are doing it. We have to make sure that this is Bush's legacy.
I will always be proud of GW Bush for trying something BIG. It has already paid off in many ways. I just hope Obama is not given credit for any of it even though it the end game is happening "on his watch."
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:50:43am |
re: #353 Lincolntf
Morning all.
OT- Any football fans hear that Marvin Harrison has asked for his release from the Colts? Hmmm...I'd say he's still got some gas in the tank. Here's hoping the Pats pick him up. Too bad Indy doesn't need a QB.
Not until the gun charges that are hanging over his head are resolved. AND , depending on that "resolution",, maybe bot even then!
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:51:03am |
re: #337 Irish Rose
The sun? What's that?
I have a sun lamp over my bed as well on my headboard. I turn it on for a few minutes most days, and it gives me full sunlight spectrum rays.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:53:03am |
re: #358 _RememberTonyC
I will always be proud of GW Bush for trying something BIG. It has already paid off in many ways. I just hope Obama is not given credit for any of it even though it the end game is happening "on his watch."
i'm glad he's got Afghanistan. It would take a brave leader to pull out at the right time - and he's not brave. Rather he has emboldened Pakistan and the Taliban has turned the Swat valley into a killing field, burned hundreds of school, and the Pakistan army has retreated.
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JammieWearingFool Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:53:05am |
re: #353 Lincolntf
Morning all.
OT- Any football fans hear that Marvin Harrison has asked for his release from the Colts? Hmmm...I'd say he's still got some gas in the tank. Here's hoping the Pats pick him up. Too bad Indy doesn't need a QB.
Yes. He's due to make $13 million and they want him to take a pay cut. That kind of coin is way too much for a guy on his last legs.
Amani Toomer is also available; doesn't look like the Giants are making any effort to re-sign him.
Harrison's a HoF player, just no longer a No. 1 receiver.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:53:22am |
re: #356 Chicago Blonde
How bout some stilleto Snowboots?
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:54:11am |
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Irish Rose Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:54:25am |
re: #356 Chicago Blonde
Grand Haven, MI.
I live right on the eastern shore of Lake Michigan... you typically send us your weather.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:54:34am |
What was that Jack Ryan movie/book, where he battles the drug lords in columbia and the politicians abandon a "black ops" group and he goes to rescue them?
Obama reminds me of those evil politicians. He will abandon any and all allies for some short term advantage in his favor.
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Chicago Blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:55:40am |
re: #364 Rustler
*laughing, picturing herself proudly putting a foot down and promptly landing on her butt*
Oh man! Thanks Rustler, until the snow's gone I think I'll stick with my flowered Doc Martens. Hey, I've got to get my Spring on somehow!
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Lincolntf Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:55:57am |
re: #359 sattv4u2
I forgot about that. What a weird story (in ESPN the Mag, I think) that is.
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DistantThunder Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:56:28am |
re: #368 Rustler
Clear and Present Danger?
Yep. Just like George Bush senior abandoned the Shiites in Iraq in 1991, now we are allowing pakistan to abandon the people in swat for appeasement purposes. Fanatical Islam is ascendent again.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:56:43am |
re: #367 DistantThunder
What was that Jack Ryan movie/book, where he battles the drug lords in columbia and the politicians abandon a "black ops" group and he goes to rescue them?
Obama reminds me of those evil politicians. He will abandon any and all allies for some short term advantage in his favor.
Clear and Present Danger?
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Chicago Blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:57:00am |
re: #366 Irish Rose
you typically send us your weather.
Sorry. *hangs head* When we get a calm 70 degree day I'll see what I can do...
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:57:08am |
re: #369 Chicago Blonde Lol yeah I was gonna say if you were wore them would you mind if I follow you with a video camera. Maybe I could win the 100k for America's funniest home video.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:58:18am |
re: #375 Chicago Blonde Of course we could split the take you are teh star anyway :P.
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Irish Rose Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:58:44am |
re: #360 DistantThunder
I have a sun lamp over my bed as well on my headboard. I turn it on for a few minutes most days, and it gives me full sunlight spectrum rays.
I use the full spectrum light bulbs that you get at the market in a regular desk lamp, when I'm blogging or doing business online... I let it fall directly on my skin. It keeps me from getting into too much of a funk, for the most part.
I only turn cranky when I'm sick.
The popsicles are a good idea, definitely going to pick up some of those.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:58:54am |
re: #371 DistantThunder
Yep. Just like George Bush senior abandoned the Shiites in Iraq in 1991, now we are allowing pakistan to abandon the people in swat for appeasement purposes. Fanatical Islam is ascendent
againstill.
FTFY
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:58:54am |
re: #370 Lincolntf
I forgot about that. What a weird story (in ESPN the Mag, I think) that is.
The Pats don't need a reciever (this year). They need help for an aging defense. Even without Brady last year, the reson they lost was because the D couldn;'t make critical stops. The O was rated 3rd I think (if not, iot was in the top 5)
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aussiemagpie Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:58:55am |
An early night for me, as I attended an all day course today/yesterday, and my brain hurts :-)
So goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!
Tonights view of this lovely country of OZ
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Chicago Blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:00:06am |
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:00:14am |
re: #380 aussiemagpie
An early night for me, as I attended an all day course today/yesterday, and my brain hurts :-)
So goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!
Tonights view of this lovely country of OZ
I am so there!
Bah on winter!
Bah on snow!
Cmon SPRING!
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:00:33am |
re: #381 Chicago Blonde
Good deal. :)
BBL all - errands. Work. Non-Lizard stuff.
/Darn it...
Be safe!
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:01:19am |
re: #381 Chicago Blonde
Later ChicagoBlonde be safe and have fun.
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Irish Rose Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:01:36am |
OK, which thread was the meltdown thread last night?
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Chicago Blonde Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:02:07am |
re: #383 Wishing
Thanks Wishing. I'm not wearing Rustler's $100K-winning boots...yet. :)
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FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:02:19am |
Good morning. sorry if this has already been posted.
Insta-lanche
“Republicans be warned: No demonstrably creationist politician will be elected President of the United States.”
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:02:25am |
re: #387 Irish Rose Don't know here maybe there was some serious Oscar Drama?
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:02:30am |
re: #385 Rustler
Wish I could afford a trip there hehe.
Just laying on a warm beach, even if I did nothing is sooo appealing!
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:02:52am |
re: #388 Chicago Blonde
Thanks Wishing. I'm not wearing Rustler's $100K-winning boots...yet. :)
Put those on the *to get* list!
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:03:18am |
re: #387 Irish Rose
OK, which thread was the meltdown thread last night?
Glenn Beck thread...they were dropping like flies.
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Rustler Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:03:20am |
re: #389 FrogMarch
Now If only we could get em out of the Governor's Chairs.
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soxfan4life Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:03:36am |
re: #353 Lincolntf
I don't think Harrison would take to being #3 guy behind Moss and Welker. I would rather they focus on defensive backs and linebackers. Jabar Gaffney is a free agent and would be cheaper and better at #3 than Harrison.
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Lincolntf Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:03:52am |
re: #379 sattv4u2
I know. But not needing him isn't the same as "can't use" him. I don't really expect Harrison to end up on the Pats (I hope he's in the NFC), but I think that whoever does get him (if the legal issues are resolved, a big if) will get a couple real good years out of him.
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freetoken Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:04:40am |
re: #389 FrogMarch
That ought to stir up some more hate mail...
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Irish Rose Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:05:11am |
re: #393 Wishing
Glenn Beck thread...they were dropping like flies.
Gonna go look.
I need the distraction before I have to go out and @#@# shovel.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:05:54am |
re: #396 Lincolntf
I know. But not needing him isn't the same as "can't use" him. I don't really expect Harrison to end up on the Pats (I hope he's in the NFC), but I think that whoever does get him (if the legal issues are resolved, a big if) will get a couple real good years out of him.
True, but what you don;t want as a fan is come to week 10 at 8-1 and the cops show up at practice to walk him out in cuffs
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Lincolntf Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:08:52am |
re: #399 sattv4u2
Yeah. According to the story I read (I'll have to go see if there are new developments) there are witnesses who put the gun in Marvin's hand. His gun. Outside his bar. I haven't heard Harrison's side of the story yet.
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:11:17am |
I look forward to hearing the drive-bys correct themselves tonight on the evening news, by apologizing to W.
/turning blue holding my breath.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:12:22am |
re: #389 FrogMarch
Good morning. sorry if this has already been posted.
Insta-lanche
“Republicans be warned: No demonstrably creationist politician will be elected President of the United States.”
This is so important for Republican leadership to get. Last night at work, I re-read the Constitution, and thought alot about: but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States. This is from Article VI. Religion is just BAD when mixed with politics in any fashion and we need to heed our forefathers' wisdom in this!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:12:53am |
re: #401 Lincolntf
Yeah. According to the story I read (I'll have to go see if there are new developments) there are witnesses who put the gun in Marvin's hand. His gun. Outside his bar. I haven't heard Harrison's side of the story yet.
There are currently 9 "versions" of the story, hence the prosecutors can't bring charges "AT THIS TIME". Thats why i stated you don't want this to blow up in the middle of a successful season
[Link: www.indystar.com...]
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:17:49am |
re: #341 DistantThunder
But I think there is plenty of anti-white racism when black women see a black man married to a white woman. I've read several articles about in women's magazines - and the tone is very catty.
Where I'm from, interracial couples are pretty common, and I wouldn't say that this is much of a phenomena anymore. Maybe 5-10+ years ago, but now I don't notice it so much.
I think, during the '90s, due to the extreme prominence of rap/hip hop that black men/white women was viewed as a 'fad' by my generation; which are now of an age that would be writing articles for women's magazines. That the motives of neither party was viewed as altruistic but instead the attempt to conform to a pop culture manufactured image.
Among the generation below me, I don't perceive the animus for interracial relationships to anywhere near the same degree; and they are much more common to boot.
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:19:19am |
re: #402 rightside
I look forward to hearing the drive-bys correct themselves tonight on the evening news, by apologizing to W.
/turning blue holding my breath.
I am really bracing for the lefties to explode or start donning suicide vests over the 'change' that isn't taking place in terms of 'Bushitlers' policies...
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:20:06am |
re: #393 Wishing
Glenn Beck thread...they were dropping like flies.
I missed it...had to reinstall an OS on a laptop...
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:20:47am |
re: #408 Oh no...Sand People!
I missed it...had to reinstall an OS on a laptop...
The thread was much more interesting, imo.
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soxfan4life Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:23:40am |
re: #407 Oh no...Sand People!
Well, let's see he hasn't ended the war fast enough for them, he hasn't ended the wiretapping. Yet in 4 years we will hear how great he is, and how the whole world loves us now.
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:23:41am |
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VioletTiger Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:23:57am |
re: #410 Ward Cleaver
Good morning Ward, and everyone else. What's cooking this morning?
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:24:49am |
re: #413 VioletTiger
Good morning Ward, and everyone else. What's cooking this morning?
Left-over troll.
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:25:44am |
re: #407 Oh no...Sand People!
You know, I don't think they will ever do that, IMO. Maybe a razor thin segment of lefties will hyperventilate over his "lack of change", but for the most part, I think they could care less. It's not about his policies, it's about how he says things. If they were intellectually honest (I know, big stretch there), you would start hearing them denouce him publicly, for campaigning against those things he is now embracing from the Chimperor McBushitlerburton administration.
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notutopia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:25:51am |
re: #362 DistantThunder
i'm glad he's got Afghanistan. It would take a brave leader to pull out at the right time - and he's not brave. Rather he has emboldened Pakistan and the Taliban has turned the Swat valley into a killing field, burned hundreds of school, and the Pakistan army has retreated.
U.S. Secretly Training Pakistani Commandos
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:26:08am |
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VioletTiger Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:26:39am |
re: #414 Wishing
Left-over troll.
There were some huge flame-outs last night. I dropped in a few times but had to pack for a business trip.
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FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:26:43am |
re: #397 freetoken
That ought to stir up some more hate mail...
Unfortunately.
The Republican party cannot win if it continues to look like Jimmy Swaggart.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:27:11am |
re: #417 Ford_Prefect
Did we lose anyone interesting?
Not sure, but I think a few had been posting here since 2004?
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:27:20am |
re: #411 soxfan4life
Well, let's see he hasn't ended the war fast enough for them, he hasn't ended the wiretapping. Yet in 4 years we will hear how great he is, and how the whole world loves us now.
This article made me feel real good:
LA Times:
Obama's Iran strategy: The Obama administration is likely to opt for a policy of containment in the event that Tehran acquires nuclear capabilities.
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
This quote struck out at me the most:
"And there is some optimism among administration officials that a nuclear Iran would practice restraint. "
/Hooray!
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songbird Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:27:52am |
re: #389 FrogMarch
Good morning. sorry if this has already been posted.
Insta-lanche
“Republicans be warned: No demonstrably creationist politician will be elected President of the United States.”
This may exclude some of the brightest, aptest and most skilled potential candidates and leaders in this country. Will they serve the country to the best of their ability regardless of ego or agenda?
(Hope I don't get down dinged too hard for this)
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:28:30am |
My apologies: the 9 flame and fizzles were two nights ago. I work night shift and lose track of day and night.
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songbird Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:28:36am |
re: #419 FrogMarch
Unfortunately.
The Republican party cannot win if it continues to look like Jimmy Swaggart.
Totally agree. That hair. That arrogance. Pitooey!
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VioletTiger Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:28:52am |
re: #421 Oh no...Sand People!
Which says that they plan to do little if anything to stop Iran from making a bomb.
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:29:40am |
re: #415 rightside
You know, I don't think they will ever do that, IMO. Maybe a razor thin segment of lefties will hyperventilate over his "lack of change", but for the most part, I think they could care less. It's not about his policies, it's about how he says things. If they were intellectually honest (I know, big stretch there), you would start hearing them denouce him publicly, for campaigning against those things he is now embracing from the Chimperor McBushitlerburton administration.
DKos, Digg, and Huffpo commenters...those are the only one's I could see doing anything proactive...wait...on second thought... that might be considered 'work'... So yeah, I doubt many would really do much of anything. I recant my post.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:29:42am |
re: #422 songbird
This may exclude some of the brightest, aptest and most skilled potential candidates and leaders in this country. Will they serve the country to the best of their ability regardless of ego or agenda?
(Hope I don't get down dinged too hard for this)
The sad thing is that these politicians care only about their base. They will de-base to win them.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:30:24am |
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:32:06am |
re: #426 Oh no...Sand People!
lol, I was talking about people who actually mattered!
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songbird Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:32:59am |
re: #427 Wishing
The sad thing is that these politicians care only about their base. They will de-base to win them.
The sad thing about all politicians is that they all care only about their base. There are very few with the skill or compassion to bridge differences and persuade the opposite camp.
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:34:17am |
Good morning y'all - from a frigid (20 degrees when I woke up, going up to 46 degrees today) but bright, sunny Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing well today!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:34:46am |
re: #431 songbird
The sad thing about all politicians is that they all care only about
their basegetting re-elected. There are very few with the skill or compassion to bridge differences and persuade the opposite camp.
The campaigning and fund raising never ends!
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:35:18am |
re: #422 songbird
This may exclude some of the brightest, aptest and most skilled potential candidates and leaders in this country.
With the exception that some of the brightest, aptest, and most skilled potential candidates and leaders in this country currently can't run as Republicans because they don't pass the litmus test necessary to get funded.
Or the additional exception that the brightest, aptest and most skilled go into just about anything but politics, and we are left with the Al Gore legacy admission, 'D' average types; and he is the ones that gravitate towards the top of the heap.
The Republican side of 'best and brightest' isn't any better either.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:35:35am |
re: #432 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a frigid (20 degrees when I woke up, going up to 46 degrees today) but bright, sunny Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing well today!
heya Real,,, heading home soon!
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Bloodnok Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:35:49am |
re: #428 sattv4u2
Ruh Roh ,,,Can't wait to see what Mr. Johnson has to say about this (unless he already has and I missed it ,, very possible)
Geert Wilders is coming to America this week.[Link: www.google.com...]
Pamela must be having her hair done. A new picture for her "Wall of Ego".
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:35:53am |
re: #432 realwest
Morning, real. Highs around 32 here in CT today. I am well, how about you?
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:36:40am |
re: #436 Bloodnok
Pamela must be having her hair done. A new picture for her "Wall of Ego".
I didn't want to link to her (Stinkys stick HURTS) but she's absolutly orgasmic
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doppelganglander Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:37:13am |
re: #426 Oh no...Sand People!
Hi! I'm jonesing here -- Mafia Wars is down. How are you?
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:37:15am |
re: #422 songbird
This may exclude some of the brightest, aptest and most skilled potential candidates and leaders in this country. Will they serve the country to the best of their ability regardless of ego or agenda?
(Hope I don't get down dinged too hard for this)
They just need to learn where the line's begin and end and keep the 'creationism' compartmented in it's accepted places. That should also be held true of 'Science Teachers' at the same time. While attending USU their was a professor in particular that would go on a diatribe about how the 'Salt Lake Brine shrimp proved that religion was bogus'. That set the tone for a marvelous semester... The Science teacher was threatened by the creationists as much as the creationists were threatened by the Science teacher.
Science, teach the science. Religion, stay out of science and teach religion in the acceptable locations. Vice versa, etc.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:37:32am |
Surfing the tube a moment ago, I saw CNN refer to Jindal as the "hailed GOP contender for 2012" and gratuitously mentioned he spoke at a conservative, Christian meeting right after last November's election. I don't get the context at all.
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notutopia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:37:38am |
re: #436 Bloodnok
Yeh, another one to join her thumbs ups collection, and seeing her tonsils when she smiles.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:37:39am |
re: #433 sattv4u2
The campaigning and fund raising never ends!
I think many of them know that ID is nonsense, but fear and a lack of integrity (in the form of grovelling before the Religious Right ) dooms them to espouse the *fairness* of the ID cause.
Foolish, very foolish.
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rw in san diego Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:37:49am |
Good morning, all.
re: #432 realwest
Hi, realwest! It's a pretty morning here in north coastal San Diego. 55 degrees now and predicted to go up to 71 degrees later in the day. There are some compensations for living here in looney-liberal (and almost bankrupt) land.
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songbird Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:38:04am |
re: #433 sattv4u2
The campaigning and fund raising never ends!
We really should have everyone's term end in two years, place a limit on the amount they can spend (keep it low) and encourage leaders in their fields locally - businessmen, teachers, church lay leaders, local government leaders, serious volunteers in the community - to run for the House or Senate. We would be much better represented by such rather than those who have access to big money.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:38:26am |
re: #434 Scion9
With the exception that some of the brightest, aptest, and most skilled potential candidates and leaders in this country currently can't run as Republicans because they don't pass the litmus test necessary to get funded.
Or the additional exception that the brightest, aptest and most skilled go into just about anything but politics, and we are left with the Al Gore legacy admission, 'D' average types; and he is the ones that gravitate towards the top of the heap.
The Republican side of 'best and brightest' isn't any better either.
Any religious litmus test is unconstitutional, Article V!.
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Bloodnok Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:38:47am |
re: #441 MandyManners
Surfing the tube a moment ago, I saw CNN refer to Jindal as the "hailed GOP contender for 2012" and gratuitously mentioned he spoke at a conservative, Christian meeting right after last November's election. I don't get the context at all.
GAAAH!
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VioletTiger Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:40:32am |
re: #432 realwest
Good morning.
We're chilly up here too. Spring can't come fast enough.
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:40:38am |
re: #439 doppelganglander
Hi! I'm jonesing here -- Mafia Wars is down. How are you?
I was able to get a few jobs done before Mafia Wars went on the brink. So all in all, I am doing pretty good. Got my operating system reinstalled on my laptop at home and things are working quite well. How about you, how are you?
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Killer Tomato Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:40:47am |
re: #441 MandyManners
The media selected the GOP candidate this year. Didn't work out too well unless you were in the other camp.
The GOP needs to wake the hell up.
BTW - good morning all!
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:41:16am |
re: #446 Wishing
Any religious litmus test is unconstitutional, Article V!.
That applies to public office, not to a private organization such as a political party.
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bellamags Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:41:19am |
Forgot to turn the heat on last night at the shop. Putting cold lotion on a naked body and laying in a tanning bed when its 55 degrees in the shop is NOT GOOD. burrr.
Good (chilly) morning lizards.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:41:43am |
re: #445 songbird
I agree on limits (and for deacdes I didn't, but it's changed so much now) but I think one term for a congressman is unrealistic.
4 for congressman (total 8 years) and 2 for senate (12) seems fair to me
and on that note ,, Bye Bye
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VioletTiger Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:41:44am |
re: #441 MandyManners
Who is doing the hailing other than the media?
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notutopia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:42:23am |
re: #441 MandyManners
Surfing the tube a moment ago, I saw CNN refer to Jindal as the "hailed GOP contender for 2012" and gratuitously mentioned he spoke at a conservative, Christian meeting right after last November's election. I don't get the context at all.
This is Not Good!
[Link: volokh.com...]
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:42:25am |
re: #451 MandyManners
That applies to public office, not to a private organization such as a political party.
We nominate them FOR elected office.
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:42:51am |
re: #446 Wishing
It is unconstitutional to place those tests as a requirement for holding office. The internal workings of a political party, its fund raising committee and PACs need not apply. The constitution doesn't mention them.
In fact, if you read what the guy who wrote the Constitution had to say on the subject it seems it was intended that we have a one party nation.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:43:25am |
re: #447 Bloodnok
GAAAH!
Charles is right that the MFM will focus on the GOP candidates' religious beliefs.
I wanna' know who appoints which candidates to be the "top contenders". The GOP leadership or, the MFM? (Yes, that's rhetorical.)
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:43:32am |
re: #422 songbird Good morning songbird! I dinged you up if that's any consolation at all.
As to that thread "Three Top Republicans Governors: All Creationists" I got to the thread VERY late and skimmed it quickly enough and posted this at #1162
I'm a Christian. I believe in God and in Jesus Christ. I also believe in Evolution and I don't want religion taught in public schools as science or anything else.
Religion should not be taught in public schools, period.
BUT - and you knew this was coming - despite Sal's dire warnings in his #1160 to the effect that "It's not an either/or; we can reject BOTH leftism AND public-school-mandated creationism." that's not correct if by "We" he means the Republican Party. The Republican Party is shot through with creationists and, judging just by thread topic,three of them are Governors (four if you include Palin but I don't think she belongs on the list because she had stated publicly that she doesn't want creationism taught in the public schools). Those folks were elected by a whole lot of creationists. To Governorships no less. And while I also agree with Sal about the risks to America if this creationism or any other form of religion is taught in our public schools, including in science classes, the simple facts are that the ideas dreamed up by the LEFT, by BILL AYERS and the NEA amongst others are, right now, a more immediate danger to this nation. The LEFTIST agenda has to include education in the public schools or it will ultimately FAIL for people will not be studying revisionist history, will not be given self-esteem, will not learn completely inaccurate ideas about our government, how it works and about the Constitution. In other words the Socialist Nanny State that is the Left's wet dream cannot come to fruition if the LEFT doesn't control the public schools.
And right now, today, February 23, 2009, the Left is actively trying to and are so far succeeding - to a degree - in implementing their Nanny State dreams because, in large part, huge numbers of American voters, especially younger voters, are products of an educational system which has been run by the LEFT not by Creationists.
Yes, creationism in the Public Schools is a very serious danger; but the agenda of the LEFT in public schools is, I submit a far greater and imminent danger. So we either stay with and try to change the Republican party WITHOUT drumming out creationists NOW, or we will have the LEFT's version of America for a long, long time.
Salamantis did respond to my comment and I responded to his, but it was after 2:00AM here and I just couldn't stay awake.
But I will simply reiterate what I said last night: creationism IS a danger to our school system and to our Country. But as far as IMMEDIATE danger goes, nothing comes anywhere NEAR to what the LEFT poses to America. And frankly as "bad" as I know Charles and some commenters think those 3 Republican governors are, those 3 can't BEGIN to touch the imminent danger and a GREATER danger to our nation than do The LEFT Party's Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
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FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:44:04am |
re: #441 MandyManners
Surfing the tube a moment ago, I saw CNN refer to Jindal as the "hailed GOP contender for 2012" and gratuitously mentioned he spoke at a conservative, Christian meeting right after last November's election. I don't get the context at all.
The DNC media want Jindal as our nominee. Just like they wanted McCain.
The media makes the pick. and they will pick a loser for the Republican side, every time. Will the Republican leadership wake up to this? They better.
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:44:06am |
re: #456 notutopia
This is Not Good!
[Link: volokh.com...]
If we can get the word out fast enough, maybe enough politicians will realize that they need to 'change' tactics on the 'D.I.' / 'I.D.' thing.
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rw in san diego Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:44:18am |
re: #450 Killer Tomato
The GOP may say they are a 'big tent' party, but they don't seem to want to run anyone who is the least out of step with their social agenda. That leaves a lot of us marginalized to say the least.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:44:21am |
re: #450 Killer Tomato
The media selected the GOP candidate this year. Didn't work out too well unless you were in the other camp.
The GOP needs to wake the hell up.BTW - good morning all!
Although Steele's main job is to raise funds, shouldn't he also get involved in pressuring the MFM to stop this nonsense?
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:44:41am |
re: #452 bellamags
Forgot to turn the heat on last night at the shop. Putting cold lotion on a naked body and laying in a tanning bed when its 55 degrees in the shop is NOT GOOD. burrr.
Good (chilly) morning lizards.
I would think that would depend on the body you are putting it on.
Morning bella.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:45:00am |
re: #458 Scion9
It is unconstitutional to place those tests as a requirement for holding office. The internal workings of a political party, its fund raising committee and PACs need not apply. The constitution doesn't mention them.
In fact, if you read what the guy who wrote the Constitution had to say on the subject it seems it was intended that we have a one party nation.
Thanks, I bookmarked it and will read it later. I haven't slept yet and it appears it will require a fresh brain. lol
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:45:08am |
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abolitionist Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:45:18am |
At HotAir,
Obama plans “soak the rich” class-warfare economics
Avanti, yoo-hoo.
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:46:10am |
re: #435 sattv4u2
Well I'm glad to hear that you're shift has nearly ended. Wish I could go home and sleep, but I have to go out in a while and do chores; I am truly exhausted right now!
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:46:42am |
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bloodnok Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:05am |
re: #461 FrogMarch
The DNC media want Jindal as our nominee. Just like they wanted McCain.
The media makes the pick. and they will pick a loser for the Republican side, every time. Will the Republican leadership wake up to this? They better.
The unfortunate thing is that even if the RNC/the public/whoever can remove Jindal from consideration in time -the MSM has other, equally bad, candidates they can foist on us waiting in the wings.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:14am |
re: #457 Wishing
We nominate them FOR elected office.
But, VI does not apply to private organizations, only to the actual office itself.
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bloodnok Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:40am |
re: #471 bloodnok
The unfortunate thing is that even if the RNC/the public/whoever can remove Jindal from consideration in time -the MSM has other, equally bad, candidates they can foist on us waiting in the wings.
Huckabee springs to mind.
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doppelganglander Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:43am |
re: #449 Oh no...Sand People!
I was able to get a few jobs done before Mafia Wars went on the brink. So all in all, I am doing pretty good. Got my operating system reinstalled on my laptop at home and things are working quite well. How about you, how are you?
Pretty well for a Monday. Mr. Doppelganglander got a lead on an outstanding work opportunity this weekend. Meanwhile we are busy with my work, and we will be able to pay the bills for March. So compared to a lot of people, I am truly blessed.
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Killer Tomato Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:54am |
re: #464 MandyManners
Although Steele's main job is to raise funds, shouldn't he also get involved in pressuring the MFM to stop this nonsense?
Mandy - I don't know of any way to get them to do their actual jobs. I'm starting to think we need 'another' media - the one we have is broken, busted, useless.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:59am |
re: #461 FrogMarch
The DNC media want Jindal as our nominee. Just like they wanted McCain.
The media makes the pick. and they will pick a loser for the Republican side, every time. Will the Republican leadership wake up to this? They better.
What can Republicans do on the local and state levels?
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FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:48:01am |
re: #468 abolitionist
At HotAir,
Obama plans “soak the rich” class-warfare economicsAvanti, yoo-hoo.
... Obama wants to jack up taxes to cut the deficit, but still wants “a major expansion of health coverage” — even with the entitlement meltdown rapidly approaching. If Obama cares about deficits so much, he should reduce spending, especially as he demands more from Americans’ paychecks to fix the budget hole.
Raising taxes in a recession is about the surest way to ensure its continuance. We’ve seen this over and over again in American history, including the Great Depression.
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:48:02am |
re: #459 MandyManners
Charles is right that the MFM will focus on the GOP candidates' religious beliefs.
I wanna' know who appoints which candidates to be the "top contenders". The GOP leadership or, the MFM? (Yes, that's rhetorical.)
Speaking of the MFM, I was watching the vid with Matt Lauer talking with Mr. Santelli of the Chicago Tea Party...
Paraphrasing, "Sacrifice has come up in the past, that we as American's haven't sacrificed enough. Now that Obama has asked us to sacrifice more what seems to be the issue?"
I was screaming at the video, "I WASN'T ASKED! I have no CHOICE in the matter once it's legislated! And if I REFUSE!?"
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:48:13am |
re: #437 Ford_Prefect
Good morning Ford! Geez, you guys are warmer up there in Connecticut than we are down here in the "Southland" right now!
I'm exhausted - had a rough night. Glad you're doing well though!
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:48:53am |
re: #476 Killer Tomato
Mandy - I don't know of any way to get them to do their actual jobs. I'm starting to think we need 'another' media - the one we have is broken, busted, useless.
See my No. 477. I don't know what to do other than that.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:49:46am |
re: #479 Oh no...Sand People!
Speaking of the MFM, I was watching the vid with Matt Lauer talking with Mr. Santelli of the Chicago Tea Party...
Paraphrasing, "Sacrifice has come up in the past, that we as American's haven't sacrificed enough. Now that Obama has asked us to sacrifice more what seems to be the issue?"
I was screaming at the video, "I WASN'T ASKED! I have no CHOICE in the matter once it's legislated! And if I REFUSE!?"
Who said that? Lauer?
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:50:14am |
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:51:18am |
re: #444 rw in san diego
Hey rw! Good to see you - and yes, I'm sure that there are compensations for living out there - at least you don't live in Bezerkely! - and that weather sounds fine to me!
And don't worry, Obama will ride to California's rescue; last I heard California would be the 9th largest economy in the World if it were a separate state and Obama can't allow California to go under!
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Beach Lover Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:51:29am |
re #460 {realwest}
Bless you!
and good morning, real
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:52:01am |
re: #475 doppelganglander
Pretty well for a Monday. Mr. Doppelganglander got a lead on an outstanding work opportunity this weekend. Meanwhile we are busy with my work, and we will be able to pay the bills for March. So compared to a lot of people, I am truly blessed.
That's great! I am still going to be asking about on the 'work' opportunity end, but let me know how it goes.
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:52:34am |
re: #484 MandyManners
Who said that? Lauer?
Yes. I'm going to see if I can find the video and post it.
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:52:54am |
re: #460 realwest
I agree for the most part. Creationism, unfettered, would be a generational degradation. The overwhelmingly left-controlled school system has already been sliding towards obsolescence in comparison to the rest of the world with no sign of improving, and is in fact an immediate danger; and that is one of many areas.
However, you are talking reality. What matters is perception. No one is going to be able to combat the Obamunists on a political plane if they can't even get elected in the first place.
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notutopia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:53:04am |
re: #462 Oh no...Sand People!
If we can get the word out fast enough, maybe enough politicians will realize that they need to 'change' tactics on the 'D.I.' / 'I.D.' thing.
I think direct Re-education for any GOP potential nominees, on keeping religious ideology out of the GOP platform would go far.
Further that idea, start sending these "potentials" all the scientific links to our arguments on ID, and on the acceptance of creationism and evolution now.
Make it real plain to them, WE want NO religion in our educational curricula or textbooks to corrupt the SCIENCE fields!
They'll get the message real quick, either 100% represent their constituents, OR, they'll NOT get our money contributions, support, and our vote!
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rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:53:18am |
re: #485 MandyManners
Damn, wrong thread!
Do you think the MFM can be stopped? I don't think even Reagan could have withstood the onslaught this past election.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:53:31am |
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My profile is CrAzY
Registered since: Aug 1, 2004 at 6:28 am
No. of comments posted: 21,206
No. of links posted: 4
Lettin it all out, eh?
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:54:38am |
re: #490 Oh no...Sand People!
Yes. I'm going to see if I can find the video and post it.
I figured it was that fucking Quissling 'cause I couldn't imagine someone against CBBHO saying it.
I got news for Matty, et al.: YOU'RE NOT CHEERLEADERS FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION. IT'S NOT YOUR ROLE TO RALLY THE NATION.
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abolitionist Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:54:56am |
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:56:08am |
re: #495 MandyManners
I figured it was that fucking Quissling 'cause I couldn't imagine someone against CBBHO saying it.
I got news for Matty, et al.: YOU'RE NOT CHEERLEADERS FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION. IT'S NOT YOUR ROLE TO RALLY THE NATION.
I kind of feel that a guy who has been president for a month hasn't earned the right to ask anyone for sacrifice. How about he leads by example, first?
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:56:10am |
re: #484 MandyManners
Who said that? Lauer?
[Link: conservativeamerican.org...]
Go to the second video down and go to about 2:20 in the video, the whole thing drives me insane, but 2:20 is where Matt Lauer pulls his typical moral highground BS..
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:56:37am |
re: #457 Wishing
Good morning Wishing! Hope you're doing well today, but I have to ask you who is this "We" you mentioned as having nominated them? I didn't. We didn't even have a primary down here.
No, the MSM "nominated McCain" so that he'd be easy to smack around cause John had proven over many, many years that he's too much of a nice guy to fight back.
If Rudy had been our nominee I beleive the election would probably still have gone to the Leftist party because a) we'd already won the war in Iraq and b) the economy was - or seemed to be - falling down around our ears. But Rudy woulda done some great smackdowns and educated people as to what to expect from Obama and the Left.
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bloodnok Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:56:37am |
re: #493 rightside
Damn, wrong thread!
Do you think the MFM can be stopped? I don't think even Reagan could have withstood the onslaught this past election.
Stop watching them and TELL THEIR SPONSORS why you are not watching them. That should work.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:58:06am |
re: #499 realwest
Good morning Wishing! Hope you're doing well today, but I have to ask you who is this "We" you mentioned as having nominated them? I didn't. We didn't even have a primary down here.
No, the MSM "nominated McCain" so that he'd be easy to smack around cause John had proven over many, many years that he's too much of a nice guy to fight back.
If Rudy had been our nominee I beleive the election would probably still have gone to the Leftist party because a) we'd already won the war in Iraq and b) the economy was - or seemed to be - falling down around our ears. But Rudy woulda done some great smackdowns and educated people as to what to expect from Obama and the Left.
Sorry about that RW, but I was talking about upcoming elections, '10 and '12.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:59:50am |
re: #493 rightside
Damn, wrong thread!
Do you think the MFM can be stopped? I don't think even Reagan could have withstood the onslaught this past election.
I don't know.
Speaking of Pres. Reagan, I had something niggling in the back of my mind last night during the thread about the GOP governors. Am I the only one who remembers what James Watt said about the enviornment when he was Sec. of the Interior? It was something to the effect that conservation is not important because Christ could return soon, or words to that effect.
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notutopia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:59:58am |
GOP "Potential" ?
"Potential"...Gheez..it sounds like Matrix to me.
Charles Johnson on this "Potential":
Bobby Jindal has so much dirt in his past, he has absolutely no chance of being elected. If the GOP puts him up as the nominee, he will LOSE. Everything the media tried to pin on Sarah Palin, Jindal actually did: he promoted and signed a creationism bill, he took part in an amateur exorcism and claimed it cured a woman of cancer, and possibly worst of all, he hangs out with people on the outer edges of fundamentalist Christianity, and at least one person who has associated with outright neo-Nazis: Bobby Jindal's Creationism and Alliance with David Barton.
Who is David Barton?
In 1991 Barton addressed the Rocky Mountain Bible Retreat of Pastor Pete Peters' Scriptures for America, a group that espouses the racist "Christian Identity" theology. Advocates of this bizarre dogma insist that white Anglo-Saxons are the "true" chosen people of the Bible and charge that today's Jews are usurpers. Aside from being a virulent anti-Semite, Peters has advocated the death penalty for homosexuals. According to the Anti-Defamation League, other speakers at the event included white supremacist leader and 1992 presidential candidate James "Bo" Gritz, a leader of the radical and increasingly violent militia movement, and Malcolm Ross, a Holocaust denier from Canada. In November of that same year, Barton spoke at Kingdom Covenant College in Grants Pass, Oregon, another "Christian Identity" front group with ties to Peters.4
Asked to explain these actions, Barton's reply amounted to a not very creative "I didn't know they were Nazis" dodge. In a July 1993 letter, Barton assistant Kit Marshall wrote, "At the time we were contacted by Pete Peters, we had absolutely no idea that he was 'part of the Nazi movement.' He contacted us for David to speak for Scriptures for America. The title is quite innocuous. In all the conversations that I personally had with Pete Peters, never once was there a hint that they were part of a Nazi movement. I would also like to point out that simply because David Barton gives a presentation to a group of people does not mean that he endorses all their beliefs."5 An excuse like that might have washed one time, but it stretches the bounds of credulity to accept that Barton was twice duped by innocuous-sounding extremist organizations.
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albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:59:58am |
re: #493 rightside
Damn, wrong thread!
Do you think the MFM can be stopped? I don't think even Reagan could have withstood the onslaught this past election.
did you watch the Oscar thing last night?
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rw in san diego Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:00:38am |
re: #487 realwest
And don't worry, Obama will ride to California's rescue;
Gah! I think that's called 'enabling' in psychobabble. The politicians we have elected at the state and federal level are clueless at best and, more likely, downright dangerous at worst.
BTW, I'm sorry to hear you had such a bad night. Hugs to you.
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FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:01:05am |
re: #477 MandyManners
What can Republicans do on the local and state levels?
Call or e-mail local representatives. Attempt to get involved if time permits.
Contact Steele.
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:01:40am |
re: #472 m Respectively m, Obi wan would have respected what I said out here. I knew him better than did you.
I know you've been too busy and waay too stressed out to reply to my e-mails or stay in touch with folks out here at LGF and will therefore let the rest of your comment stand on it's own.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:02:06am |
re: #496 abolitionist
The leading quote, attributed to LittleGreenFootballs, is directly from one of Charles' comments.
Yep. I wondered about the words "You can read the dirty details here" and "While at it, you can read about GOP Governors Mark Sanford and Tim Pawlenty's creationist sympathies here. Republicans be warned: No demonstrably creationist politician will be elected President of the United States".
The second sentence implies that the blog owner backs up Charles' position.
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FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:02:19am |
re: #477 MandyManners
What can Republicans do on the local and state levels?
the RNC wants ideas.
[Link: rncroots.org...]
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Mike in Georgia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:02:25am |
Something for all youguitar pickers ... in the
house.
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bloodnok Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:02:45am |
re: #502 MandyManners
I don't know.
Speaking of Pres. Reagan, I had something niggling in the back of my mind last night during the thread about the GOP governors. Am I the only one who remembers what James Watt said about the enviornment when he was Sec. of the Interior? It was something to the effect that conservation is not important because Christ could return soon, or words to that effect.
Bingo: From Wikipedia
"Watt periodically mentioned his Christian faith when discussing his approach to environmental management. Speaking before Congress, he once said, "I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns, whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to leave the resources needed for future generations."
| 512 |
Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:03:26am |
re: #506 FrogMarch
Call or e-mail local representatives. Attempt to get involved if time permits.
Contact Steele.
Demand Voter photo ID! Put an end to election fraud! Say NO! to ACORN.
| 513 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:03:26am |
re: #497 Wishing
I kind of feel that a guy who has been president for a month hasn't earned the right to ask anyone for sacrifice. How about he leads by example, first?
And get frost all over his pwecious self in the White House? Stay in D.C. to sign legislation instead of wasting more than 20,000 gallons of jet fuel?
| 514 |
VioletTiger Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:03:43am |
re: #460 realwest
real,
I see your points.
Perhaps it is a different way to look at things, but at this point, we are stuck with Obama and the only thing we can do is try to blunt the impact. On the other hand, we need to plan for the future NOW. Letting the MSM pick candidates that they can later disasseble at will won't help win the WH in 2012.
| 515 |
albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:03:50am |
re: #506 FrogMarch
Call or e-mail local representatives. Attempt to get involved if time permits.
Contact Steele.
all five feds in NM are donks as is the Gov...only Bingaman replied to me recent mail and that was a form that had nothing to do with the spending bill...they ignore me down here...I hate the feds
| 516 |
realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:03:58am |
re: #488 Beach Lover
Good morning {Beach Lover} thanks and thanks for the upding! LOL! How are you today?
| 517 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:04:37am |
re: #498 Oh no...Sand People!
[Link: conservativeamerican.org...]
Go to the second video down and go to about 2:20 in the video, the whole thing drives me insane, but 2:20 is where Matt Lauer pulls his typical moral highground BS..
Lauer is not supposed to have moral highground. He's a fucking reporter, not a member of the CBBHO administration.
| 518 |
Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:05:53am |
re: #513 MandyManners
And get frost all over his pwecious self in the White House? Stay in D.C. to sign legislation instead of wasting more than 20,000 gallons of jet fuel?
Zackly, Mandy! This guy is a user with a PLAN, and that plan is not good for all of America, just for his ideological kin.
| 519 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:06:03am |
I've come down with itching over most of my body and I think the culprit is the lavender-scented Tide. So, I'm gonna' be washing ALL of my washable clothing and towels in cold water starting this morning. bbiab
| 520 |
albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:06:08am |
re: #509 FrogMarch
the RNC wants ideas.
[Link: rncroots.org...]
they should rewrite their platform first before they try to market it
| 521 |
rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:06:15am |
re: #500 bloodnok
I haven't watched them in years, in fact, I rarely watch TV or go to movies anymore, I am so disgusted with them. It would take a herculean effort to make an impact on the drive bys
| 522 |
Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:06:16am |
re: #476 Killer Tomato
Mandy - I don't know of any way to get them to do their actual jobs. I'm starting to think we need 'another' media - the one we have is broken, busted, useless.
Journalists aren't plucked from trees, fully formed, dripping with progressive juices; and the media itself isn't exactly the problem. It has always been that way.
Conservatives need to take an ideology and a message that can take root in the minds of a younger generation, that can take root on campus, in social sciences, in J-schools. For that matter to get conservatives interested in going into those fields rather than strictly business, military and blue-collar work. The only social science that influences policy that you see conservatives involved in en masse is economics. Not enough to turn the tide of the establishment.
Conservatives shouldn't be ceding the intellectual high road to their opposition. Especially since the mainstay of the opposition's political philosophy is this absurd quasi-religious fatalistic historical determinism being passed off as an intellectual movement.
| 523 |
bellamags Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:06:37am |
re: #465 Ford_Prefect
I would think that would depend on the body you are putting it on.
Morning bella.
Good morning Ford. This time of year if I am not responding quickly, it means I have a lot of customers. No diss intended.
(we don't have "lotion service" LOL. You have to put on your own lotion. I do know a number of gentlemen who have offered to do the job for free. ; )
| 524 |
FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:06:49am |
re: #515 albusteve
all five feds in NM are donks as is the Gov...only Bingaman replied to me recent mail and that was a form that had nothing to do with the spending bill...they ignore me down here...I hate the feds
The democrats (tax-hiking, class warfare promoting, business killing, tax cheating, money grubbing, union pimping corruptocrats) in power could care less about us. Best to focus on forcing change on our side.
[Link: rncroots.org...]
| 525 |
rightside Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:07:25am |
re: #504 albusteve
No, as I said just earlier, I don't really watch TV.
| 526 |
Kenneth Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:07:42am |
re: #460 realwest
What a great first thing in the morning post, better than a double long espresso.
I wish you well today & I hope you're feeling better soon.
| 527 |
HoosierHoops Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:08:41am |
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:08:58am |
re: #494 Wishing
M was the very first "new person" I met when I moved down here; she has always been a friend to me. She has always been a good person so please, cut her some slack. I sincerely would appreciate it very much.
| 529 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:09:18am |
re: #524 FrogMarch
The democrats (tax-hiking, class warfare promoting, business killing, tax cheating, money grubbing, union pimping corruptocrats) in power could care less about us. Best to focus on forcing change on our side.
[Link: rncroots.org...]
And to think they all cried about Joe the plumber being a grand or so behind on his taxes...
How many filth pigs did Obama put up for nomination that were completely tax frauds? Oh, I forget, what is good for me...isn't good for thee...
| 530 |
rw in san diego Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:09:36am |
Well, Monday morning chores are calling. BBL. Have a great day, all.
| 532 |
doppelganglander Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:09:53am |
re: #489 Oh no...Sand People!
That's great! I am still going to be asking about on the 'work' opportunity end, but let me know how it goes.
I appreciate that. Oh, and Mafia Wars is back up!
| 533 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:09:53am |
Good morning lizards. It seems we are under attack this morning!
| 534 |
bellamags Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:10:33am |
re: #527 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?
{Hoops} Good morning. and thanks for lookin out for me yesterday.
| 535 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:10:40am |
re: #532 doppelganglander
I appreciate that. Oh, and Mafia Wars is back up!
Sweet. On it.
later all...til my energy runs out.
/heh.
| 536 |
albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:10:42am |
re: #525 rightside
No, as I said just earlier, I don't really watch TV.
good...not supporting network TV is all we can do...but it is a huge thing when enough people reject them...but TV is like dope for too many viewers, they can't stop
| 537 |
Kenneth Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:12:00am |
IDF soldiers foiled a large-scale attack at the Kissufim border crossing
The attempted attack came early Monday morning, when a Golani force spotted two Palestinians laying explosive devices near the border crossing.The soldiers crossed into Gaza and exchanged fire with the armed men, who fled. The Golani force then summoned an IAF aircraft, which attacked a car on the scene, apparently the escape vehicle used by the gunmen.
Palestinians reported two people lightly wounded following the attack, and said a building was also struck.
///There the IDF goes again, straining the cease-fire by attacking peaceful Palis.
| 538 |
realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:12:12am |
re: #505 rw in san diego
Thanks {rw} and of course hugs back to you. Yeah last night was tough for a number of reasons, thanks for your concern.
| 539 |
notutopia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:13:04am |
re: #519 MandyManners
Put 1/4 cup of baking soda in each batch and wash them in hot water, not cold. Take a benadryl now. You're having a localized allergic reaction.
No more Lavender for you.
| 540 |
Ojoe Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:13:15am |
Yet another day when all the problems are artificial.
Good morning.
| 541 |
FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:13:28am |
re: #468 abolitionist
At HotAir,
Obama plans “soak the rich” class-warfare economicsAvanti, yoo-hoo.
If Obama does this - he will ruin, devastate, our economy. Maybe that's his goal.
| 542 |
Beach Lover Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:13:33am |
re: #516 realwest
I'm well. Hate to see all the arguing between mostly like minded people. I know Im a libra, but this pains me.
It seems a good dose of history and our founding father's message would go a long way right now to finding our way out of this mess.
| 543 |
HoosierHoops Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:13:48am |
| 544 |
HoosierHoops Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:14:58am |
re: #534 bellamags
{Hoops} Good morning. and thanks for lookin out for me yesterday.
{Bella} The threads were brutal this weekend..People just snapping and melting down..
| 548 |
albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:15:35am |
democrats have known for decades that the way to seize lasting power is to reduce the economy to a point where they can step in and buy votes through the housing industry, handouts and punishing the middle and upper class...they are doing it now...it should be no surprise that they refuse to save the economy...that would be against their long term goal...it's criminal
| 549 |
ichef Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:15:44am |
I don't know if it's been mentioned here before but if you haven't seen "Taking Chance" on HBO, SEE IT! It's a story about Marine officer escorting a fallen Marine home. It shows the complete process of bringing home a soldier with dignity and grace. What these men and women do is truly remarkable and if it doesn't bring a tear to your eye, then your are pretty cold hearted.
[Link: www.hbo.com...]
| 550 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:16:10am |
ACORN asshole on Fox now. All she can do is repeat this invented right that people have to stay on property they do not own.
| 551 |
bellamags Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:16:11am |
re: #544 HoosierHoops
{Bella} The threads were brutal this weekend..People just snapping and melting down..
PESD? (post election stress disorder)?
| 552 |
FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:16:39am |
re: #529 Oh no...Sand People!
And to think they all cried about Joe the plumber being a grand or so behind on his taxes...
How many filth pigs did Obama put up for nomination that were completely tax frauds? Oh, I forget, what is good for me...isn't good for thee...
There's so many:
never mind the members of congress who are involved with some sort of tax evasion, mortgage fraud, banking fraud or corrupt land deal...
Charles Rangel
Chris Dodd
Barney Frank
Harry Reid
These entrenched democrat power brokers are all above the law. Never mind that they are economically inept and that they are in charge of our monetary policy.
| 553 |
HoosierHoops Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:16:45am |
| 554 |
Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:17:04am |
re: #544 HoosierHoops
{Bella} The threads were brutal this weekend..People just snapping and melting down..
I made a brief appearance yesterday and didn't care for the tone of things so I steered clear.
| 555 |
Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:17:08am |
re: #509 FrogMarch
the RNC wants ideas.
[Link: rncroots.org...]
Thank you for the link. I just sent off one of my thoughts on our issues. Appreciated!
| 556 |
bellamags Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:17:43am |
re: #550 MandyManners
ACORN asshole on Fox now. All she can do is repeat this invented right that people have to stay on property they do not own.
ACORN makes me want to hurl. And to think they got (our) money from the stimulus.
| 557 |
Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:17:44am |
re: #553 HoosierHoops
Hey Ford..Doing fine my friend..what's new?
As always, trying not to get some work done.
| 559 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:18:01am |
re: #539 notutopia
Put 1/4 cup of baking soda in each batch and wash them in hot water, not cold. Take a benadryl now. You're having a localized allergic reaction.
No more Lavender for you.
Got it on the baking soda but, not on the Benadryl. That stuff knocks me out. This has been bugging me for a few weeks. I figured it out yesterday when I wrapped my head in a towel after showering--the area where the towel wraps is the most aggravating.
| 560 |
jcm Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:18:35am |
Morning Honcos.
Let me see if I have this straight.
Obama just increased the budget by about 50%.
He says he will have the deficit decreased by 50%.
We already spending more than income, and just increased spending by the largest amount ever.
Other than a 10% cut in the military, since the military is about 20% of the budget, a 10% cut will save about 2% of the budget.
So where is the rest of money going to come from?
HEY WHERE'S MY WALLET!
| 561 |
Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:18:39am |
re: #550 MandyManners
ACORN asshole on Fox now. All she can do is repeat this invented right that people have to stay on property they do not own.
Book em, Danno.
| 562 |
Ojoe Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:18:41am |
re: #552 FrogMarch
When was the last time that a major political party expelled a member for corruption?
I've never heard of that. Any scum can stay in; both parties are corrupt beyond redeeming IMHO.
| 563 |
FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:18:57am |
re: #550 MandyManners
ACORN asshole on Fox now. All she can do is repeat this invented right that people have to stay on property they do not own.
Seems to me ACORN exists for two reasons:
Making sure people who cannot afford mortgage payments still get the home they "deserve" -and- voter fraud.
No wonder the democrats just gave ACORN 4 billion.
| 564 |
Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:19:22am |
re: #523 bellamags
Good morning Ford. This time of year if I am not responding quickly, it means I have a lot of customers. No diss intended.
(we don't have "lotion service" LOL. You have to put on your own lotion. I do know a number of gentlemen who have offered to do the job for free. ; )
No offense taken. I would offer to do the job as well, but I want the right to pick my clients. :-0
| 565 |
FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:19:31am |
re: #555 Wishing
Thank you for the link. I just sent off one of my thoughts on our issues. Appreciated!
Sure. Thanks to Glenn over at instapundit where I found the link.
| 566 |
albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:19:45am |
re: #555 Wishing
Thank you for the link. I just sent off one of my thoughts on our issues. Appreciated!
the RNC is totally impotent...the donks have rushed by them so fast they may never catch up...how many seats will it take for a majority in the House?...an epic turnaround in two years is highly unlikely...they are washed up
| 567 |
realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:20:27am |
re: #514 VioletTiger
I don't disagree with you that we should be planning for 2012 now, I just don't see that "planning" being viable if it means trying to form a new political party and frankly I think creationism being taught in the public schools IS wrong, but it isn't the size or immediate threat to us all that Nanny State Socialism is and Nanny State Socialism is here, now, in control, now. Religion shouldn't be taught in public, i.e., taxpayer funded schools. But I'd rather be faced with that horrid proposition than the Socialism we are facing right now and if you think those three Republican Governors are a big threat to the US as "leaders" of the Republican party, just contemplate that the party in power NOW is lead by Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
| 568 |
Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:20:27am |
re: #560 jcm
Morning Honcos.
Let me see if I have this straight.
Obama just increased the budget by about 50%.
He says he will have the deficit decreased by 50%.We already spending more than income, and just increased spending by the largest amount ever.
Other than a 10% cut in the military, since the military is about 20% of the budget, a 10% cut will save about 2% of the budget.
So where is the rest of money going to come from?
HEY WHERE'S MY WALLET!
They make money the old fashioned way...they steal it or print it. They sure as hell don't earn it.
| 569 |
HoosierHoops Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:21:01am |
re: #564 Ford_Prefect
No offense taken. I would offer to do the job as well, but I want the right to pick my clients. :-0
I'll flip you for it..I'll be Bella's in-house pool boy..
Beat that!
| 570 |
Killer Tomato Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:21:34am |
re: #522 Scion9
Journalists aren't plucked from trees, fully formed, dripping with progressive juices; and the media itself isn't exactly the problem. It has always been that way.
Conservatives need to take an ideology and a message that can take root in the minds of a younger generation, that can take root on campus, in social sciences, in J-schools. For that matter to get conservatives interested in going into those fields rather than strictly business, military and blue-collar work. The only social science that influences policy that you see conservatives involved in en masse is economics. Not enough to turn the tide of the establishment.
Conservatives shouldn't be ceding the intellectual high road to their opposition. Especially since the mainstay of the opposition's political philosophy is this absurd quasi-religious fatalistic historical determinism being passed off as an intellectual movement.
I agree. The problem is that our back is against the wall now.
| 571 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:21:41am |
| 572 |
bellamags Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:22:30am |
| 573 |
VioletTiger Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:22:46am |
re: #543 HoosierHoops
Good Morning! Did you watch the awards last night?
I can't stand awards shows. Too many vain people patting each other on the back.
However, if you have an opportunity, do see Slum Dog Millionaire. Great movie. The poverty was disturbing, however, but the story was so well done.
| 574 |
Kenneth Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:22:53am |
re: #472 m
Pamela just doesn't get it: nobody has the right to force a memorial onto the grave of another person, whatever the reason. If Pamela's group wants to put up a memorial somewhere else, they can go ahead and try to find a place. It's odd they thought of the University of Guelph, which has no association to Aqsa Parvez.
And the message they chose is rather presumptuous:
"Beloved, Remembered, Free"
Pamela does not love Aqsa, she never even knew her.
| 575 |
realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:23:08am |
re: #526 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth - thank you for the compliment and for the good wishes. I hope I'm feeling better soon myself!
How are you and yours doing today?
| 576 |
Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:23:12am |
| 577 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:23:17am |
re: #511 bloodnok
Bingo: From Wikipedia
"Watt periodically mentioned his Christian faith when discussing his approach to environmental management. Speaking before Congress, he once said, "I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns, whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to leave the resources needed for future generations."
I was a Commie then but, I remember being pissed of about all the poltical cartoons that made fun of his beliefs. Well, not just his beliefs but, God and Christ Themselves. Totally uncalled for.
| 578 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:23:42am |
re: #550 MandyManners
ACORN asshole on Fox now. All she can do is repeat this invented right that people have to stay on property they do not own.
My favorite right is the one where the government can forcibly remove you from your property that you DO own...
Emminent Domain: The power to take private property for public use by a state, municipality, or private person or corporation authorized to exercise functions of public character, following the payment of just compensation to the owner of that property.
/My mind is officially boggled for the moment...
| 579 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:24:13am |
re: #541 FrogMarch
If Obama does this - he will ruin, devastate, our economy. Maybe that's his goal.
Going, going...Down -10; SPX -3, Compx -15.
jayzuz...
| 580 |
mamashawna Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:24:25am |
re: #223 3 wood
3 Wood! I always look for your posts! Love what you have to say about the markets, and usually read them to my hubby. The assessment of risk tolerance is spot on!
| 581 |
notutopia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:24:41am |
re: #559 MandyManners
Got it on the baking soda but, not on the Benadryl...
Mandy, try taking the baby dosage, liquid.
A full capsule 25mg knocks me on my rear also. Literally, It puts me sleep for 24 hours.
Try taking 12.5 mg.
If you have a blood basophil count, causes (symptom of itching) that is elevated, the only way to inhibit it is to counter the inflammatory process.
| 582 |
HoosierHoops Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:25:10am |
re: #573 VioletTiger
I can't stand awards shows. Too many vain people patting each other on the back.
However, if you have an opportunity, do see Slum Dog Millionaire. Great movie. The poverty was disturbing, however, but the story was so well done.
I was telling somebody that this morning...Guess I need to see it..
| 583 |
albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:25:11am |
the GOP must regain the House...
255 D
178 R
not gonna happen
| 584 |
Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:25:28am |
re: #571 MandyManners
I've a few for them.
I just jotted off another one to them.
I will keep doing that as they come to mind.
| 585 |
realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:25:40am |
re: #527 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops! I'm doing ok - just really tired and facing a day of chores and more chores. When the hell is this "retirement" supposed to start anyway?!
How are you and yours doing today?
| 586 |
Gus Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:25:44am |
Another day at the races. The Dow is already heading south once again and the Nikkei is down 40.22. Talk this week will be to nationalize banks most particularly Citigroup. Just got an email bill for a BOA credit card and was reminded about how I'm getting ripped of by a bank that allow illegal aliens to open up bank accounts.
Another week begins in the land (world) that can be best described as FUBAR.
Negative as well on thinking about ID. My neck hurts as usual.
There's a photo of the Numb Nuts in Chief (NNC) on the front page of Drudge giving a toast. He has that deer in the headlights look that's approaching a 1000 yard stare.
Don't worry, be happy.
| 587 |
FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:25:59am |
re: #560 jcm
Morning Honcos.
...
So where is the rest of money going to come from?HEY WHERE'S MY WALLET!
Obama will screw all of us Honcos. He lives and breathes to screw the lowly honco. He calls it "taxing the rich".
| 588 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:26:30am |
re: #563 FrogMarch
Seems to me ACORN exists for two reasons:
Making sure people who cannot afford mortgage payments still get the home they "deserve" -and- voter fraud.No wonder the democrats just gave ACORN 4 billion.
Those are just two tactics in their plan to take over this nation. Well, ACORN is just a tool.
| 589 |
lobo91 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:27:26am |
re: #583 albusteve
the GOP must regain the House...
255 D
178 R
not gonna happen
They only need 40 seats. 218 is the key.
In 1994, the Republicans won a net 54 seats.
Will it be difficult? Of course. But it can be done.
| 590 |
HoosierHoops Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:27:42am |
| 591 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:27:54am |
re: #570 Killer Tomato
I agree. The problem is that our back is against the wall now.
One advantage to having your back against the wall is that you know which direction to carry the fight.
| 592 |
VioletTiger Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:28:03am |
re: #567 realwest
Again, I agree. I don't think the solubtion is a new political party. Third parties will always get rolled in a general election. I think the Republican party needs to adjust its message and its messangers to be viable in the next election.
| 593 |
albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:28:21am |
re: #589 lobo91
They only need 40 seats. 218 is the key.
In 1994, the Republicans won a net 54 seats.
Will it be difficult? Of course. But it can be done.
who is Newt this time?...the GOP has no Newt
| 594 |
jcm Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:28:27am |
re: #578 Oh no...Sand People!
My favorite right is the one where the government can forcibly remove you from your property that you DO own...
Emminent Domain: The power to take private property for public use by a state, municipality, or private person or corporation authorized to exercise functions of public character, following the payment of just compensation to the owner of that property.
/My mind is officially boggled for the moment...
Emminent Domain was designed for government projects that would be in the "common good." Common good is one of the phrases that have been abused, twisted beyond recognition. It used to be public works projects where the property remained in government hands and served the entire community. Kelo turn common good completely on it's head. That common good now means property can be taken from one individual given to another individual if the the second individual would pay more taxes.
| 595 |
Lincolntf Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:28:42am |
re: #574 Kenneth
What I don't understand is why they don't simply erect a monument somewhere where they either own the land or get no objections from the locals. Name a park after her. Build a walking bridge over some stream, they can do any number of things to commemorate this young woman.
They've raised several thousand dollars, I think they could get something done if they wanted to.
| 596 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:28:44am |
re: #591 MandyManners
One advantage to having your back against the wall is that you know which direction to carry the fight.
I want to agree, but I swear I see a bunch of I.D.er's breaking out the chisels and hammers and going to work on that wall...
| 598 |
HoosierHoops Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:28:57am |
re: #585 realwest
Good morning Hoops! I'm doing ok - just really tired and facing a day of chores and more chores. When the hell is this "retirement" supposed to start anyway?!
How are you and yours doing today?
Doing great Real! Your eye doing better?
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albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:29:04am |
re: #591 MandyManners
One advantage to having your back against the wall is that you know which direction to carry the fight.
nice reminder...
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:29:22am |
re: #509 FrogMarch
the RNC wants ideas.
[Link: rncroots.org...]
I've a few for them:
1. Dump the creationist crappola PDQ.
2. Focus on fiscal responsibility.
3. Lower taxes, focus on user fees.
4. Protection of private property.
5. Maintain the distinctions outlined in the Constitution between the three branches of government.
6. Dump the John Birch wannabes.
7. Roll back the power of the federal government and let the states deal with most issues. Do we really need some of these functions of the federal government as cabinet level posts?
8. Promote equal treatment and equal opportunity under the law.
I could go on, but this is a start.
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FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:29:32am |
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:29:51am |
re: #578 Oh no...Sand People!
My favorite right is the one where the government can forcibly remove you from your property that you DO own...
Oh; I assume ACORN is all for that one. I wouldn't look into the actual uses of that clause either; lest you want your head to explode.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:30:11am |
re: #578 Oh no...Sand People!
My favorite right is the one where the government can forcibly remove you from your property that you DO own...
Emminent Domain: The power to take private property for public use by a state, municipality, or private person or corporation authorized to exercise functions of public character, following the payment of just compensation to the owner of that property.
/My mind is officially boggled for the moment...
I can understand ED for matters such a roadways and the like.
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:30:43am |
re: #542 Beach Lover
Well that's a major part of the problem. Kids today in public schools aren't really taught much about American history or government and most of what they are taught is truly so revisionist that the history curriculum is on a par with The History Channel's - maybe worse. Jefferson, Washington, et. al. - can't trust them or what they said or did because they were slave holders, doncha know.
The amount of ignorance of our own history in our public schools is truly astounding.
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FrogMarch Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:31:23am |
I've gotta go eat something before I pass out.
*sugar drop*
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KansasMom Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:31:43am |
re: #574 Kenneth
And the message they chose is rather presumptuous:"Beloved, Remembered, Free"
Pamela does not love Aqsa, she never even knew her.
Actually, I think the message is the one thing they got right. I think its beautiful. Now, the process by which they went about this, and the person heading up the effort? Wrong, wrong, wrong.
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:31:59am |
re: #594 jcm
Emminent Domain was designed for government projects that would be in the "common good." Common good is one of the phrases that have been abused, twisted beyond recognition. It used to be public works projects where the property remained in government hands and served the entire community. Kelo turn common good completely on it's head. That common good now means property can be taken from one individual given to another individual if the the second individual would pay more taxes.
You know that it's in full use now. What better way to destroy the opposition. Buy their home at 'fair market' value and then build a Gov't building...
I wonder if that has any angle on the 'housing crisis'...get the market destroyed to buy up some opponents 'land' dirt cheap for the 'greater good' of taxes...hmm.. Someone might want to look into that.
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lobo91 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:32:21am |
re: #591 MandyManners
One advantage to having your back against the wall is that you know which direction to carry the fight.
"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." --Chesty Puller
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opnion Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:32:34am |
re: #567 realwest
Creationism being taught as an alternative to science is a very bad idea.
It's place is in philosophy or comparative religions etc.
However I don't see it as an clear & present danger to the Republic.
I do see head case Jihadis as a more present threat as well as the risk of hyperinflation, if the Chineese quit buying our debt & we just print money to get out of the mess.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:33:12am |
re: #590 HoosierHoops
Well..I'm wearing a swim suit and flip-flops..And All I want to do is choose Ford's clients..
Business will be booming!
/
I will pick my own clients, thank you. And if that bathing suit you are going to be wearing is a Speedo I may have to reconsider this whole thing.
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Killer Tomato Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:33:38am |
re: #609 lobo91
"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." --Chesty Puller
LOL - that's what I thought of too.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:33:51am |
re: #581 notutopia
Got it on the baking soda but, not on the Benadryl...
Mandy, try taking the baby dosage, liquid.
A full capsule 25mg knocks me on my rear also. Literally, It puts me sleep for 24 hours.
Try taking 12.5 mg.
If you have a blood basophil count, causes (symptom of itching) that is elevated, the only way to inhibit it is to counter the inflammatory process.
Even 12.5 mg knocks me out. I can handle the itching until the cause is removed. (I really hate medicine. I'll only take it if I have a prescription for something such as an infection or something that will be cured only that way. I won't even take pediatric OTC for headaches--I cannot swallow pills so I have to rely on liquid meds.)
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Beach Lover Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:33:51am |
re: #588 MandyManners
agree...we can only hope some of these people will wake up and see they have been used to only further those who have NO IDEA of hardships, to gain more power. Look at most of the Dems in power and ask how many have not inherited or married to wealth...then power. I'm amazed how minorities go years and years believing the hogwash, electing these idiots, with no reality to show it will change.
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Kenneth Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:33:56am |
re: #595 Lincolntf
The reason they haven't actually done anything is because the seem to focus most of their energy at fighting people who disagree with them. Aqsa Parvez does not belong to Pamela Geller, no matter how much money she raises for her pet project.
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:33:58am |
re: #547 Dustyvet
Good morning Dusty! Indeed I do - but regrettably it'll have to wait for a reply, as I do have a LOT of chores to get done starting in about 15 minutes!
I hope you're ok, and I hope your neck is feeling better!
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albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:34:09am |
the GOP doesnt need any new ideas...they know what conservatism is...they have knowingly allowed the religious right to dominate since Regan...nothing new and they crawl to the public for 'new ideas'?...what a bunch of friggin idiots...if they can't find a way to defeat MSM bias they must be blind
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jcm Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:34:14am |
re: #589 lobo91
They only need 40 seats. 218 is the key.
In 1994, the Republicans won a net 54 seats.
Will it be difficult? Of course. But it can be done.
Obama and Congress all already overstepping. 63% opposed or at least wanted a better stimulus package. There is no size of them backing off.
Nationalizing the election with a fiscally prudent, national security theme in '10 will put the (R)s in firm control of the house, and would give them enough seats in the Senate to block legislation.
If the (R) has the wit to play it right. And that remains to been seen.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:34:29am |
re: #584 Wishing
I just jotted off another one to them.
I will keep doing that as they come to mind.
Does it matter if one's not a member of the GOP?
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:35:18am |
Former German Chancellor Schroeder’s Iran Visit Criticized
Feb. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder’s meetings with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other officials were criticized today by a German Jewish leader and members of Schroeder’s own Social Democratic Party.
Ahmadinejad has repeatedly said the Holocaust is a “myth,” and called for the destruction of Israel. Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany. Schroeder said the Holocaust was a “historical fact,” in a Feb. 21 speech in Tehran before meeting with Ahmadinejad, according to Agence France-Presse.
“I think this visit sends a terrible signal about Germany’s reputation to the world,” Stephen J. Kramer, General Secretary of Germany’s Central Council of Jews, said in a telephone interview from Berlin. Kramer said the Iranian government is also responsible for extra-judicial killings, the stoning of women and other human rights abuses. “It seems to me he wants to reduce criticism from the Jewish side, but Holocaust denial is not the only issue we are concerned about.”
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:35:20am |
re: #603 MandyManners
I can understand ED for matters such a roadways and the like.
It does have a use when used very narrowly and correctly. Last I saw there were over 10,000 cases of ED in the works and that was about a year ago... definitely debateable on 'whose' greater good it was...
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:35:27am |
re: #594 jcm
Emminent Domain was designed for government projects that would be in the "common good." Common good is one of the phrases that have been abused, twisted beyond recognition. It used to be public works projects where the property remained in government hands and served the entire community. Kelo turn common good completely on it's head. That common good now means property can be taken from one individual given to another individual if the the second individual would pay more taxes.
Smacks of totalitarianism. No. It doesn't. It IS totalitarianism.
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:35:28am |
re: #605 realwest
History is viewed as inherently 'conservative', and therefore is indoctrinating children to a particular political philosophy. The same argument is made against formalist interpretations of the law, that take the original intent of the framers into account. Upholding the spirit of the law based on what some old dead white guys believed is very 'conservative'.
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bellamags Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:36:11am |
re: #590 HoosierHoops
Well..I'm wearing a swim suit and flip-flops..And All I want to do is choose Ford's clients..
Business will be booming!
/
and a bow-tie. This is a classy joint.
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:36:20am |
re: #560 jcm
Hey jcm! What are you worried about your wallet for, you surely won't need one now that The Left is in charge in America!
Maybe a change purse, though...!
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:36:42am |
President Obama is putting the finishing touches on an ambitious first budget that seeks to cut the federal deficit in half over the next four years, primarily by raising taxes on businesses and the wealthy and by slashing spending on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, administration officials said.
In addition to tackling a deficit swollen by the $787 billion stimulus package and other efforts to ease the nation’s economic crisis, the budget blueprint will press aggressively for progress on the domestic agenda Obama outlined during the presidential campaign. This would include key changes to environmental policies and a major expansion of health coverage that he hopes to enact later this year.
A summary of Obama’s budget request for the fiscal year that begins in October will be delivered to Congress on Thursday, with the complete, multi-hundred-page document to follow in April. But Obama plans to unveil his goals for scaling back record deficits and rebuilding the nation’s costly and inefficient health care system tomorrow, when he addresses lawmakers and budget experts at a White House summit on restoring “fiscal responsibility” to Washington.
Yesterday in his weekly radio and Internet address, Obama said he is determined to “get exploding deficits under control” and said his budget request is “sober in its assessments, honest in its accounting, and lays out in detail my strategy for investing in what we need, cutting what we don’t, and restoring fiscal discipline.”
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albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:36:43am |
re: #619 jcm
Obama and Congress all already overstepping. 63% opposed or at least wanted a better stimulus package. There is no size of them backing off.
Nationalizing the election with a fiscally prudent, national security theme in '10 will put the (R)s in firm control of the house, and would give them enough seats in the Senate to block legislation.
If the (R) has the wit to play it right. And that remains to been seen.
the House is where it will succeed of fail...but I repeat myself
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Kenneth Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:36:47am |
re: #607 KansasMom
How many of the people involved in Pamela's campaign actually knew Aqsa? I'm guessing zero. It's a presumption to claim they love & remember her. They are using her name to promote a particular political agenda. I find that offensive.
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:37:06am |
re: #626 realwest
Hey jcm! What are you worried about your wallet for, you surely won't need one now that The Left is in charge in America!
Maybe a change purse, though...!
All your wallets are belong to us.
/CBBHO
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:37:29am |
re: #610 opnion
Creationism being taught as an alternative to science is a very bad idea.
It's place is in philosophy or comparative religions etc.
However I don't see it as an clear & present danger to the Republic.
I do see head case Jihadis as a more present threat as well as the risk of hyperinflation, if the Chineese quit buying our debt & we just print money to get out of the mess.
My guess is that if we want to stop the jihadis, avoid hyperinflation, etc. we need electable candidates who are carrying the true conservative message of lower taxes, free enterprise, protection of personal property etc. If we are going to nominate creationists, aka divisive *fringe* people, we have already lost the battle AND the war.
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gregg Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:38:21am |
Over the weekend I stopped at my favorite fish-n-chips joint and my order came wrapped in a NYT stock certificate instead the usual newspaper. Times (pun intended) are tough.
/
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:38:26am |
re: #629 Kenneth
I think they got in contact with some of her school friends; but I don't follow that crowds movements so I can't say for sure.
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:39:02am |
re: #627 Dustyvet
President Obama is putting the finishing touches on an ambitious first budget that seeks to cut the federal deficit in half over the next four years, primarily by raising taxes on businesses and the wealthy and by slashing spending on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, administration officials said.
In addition to tackling a deficit swollen by the $787 billion stimulus package and other efforts to ease the nation’s economic crisis, the budget blueprint will press aggressively for progress on the domestic agenda Obama outlined during the presidential campaign. This would include key changes to environmental policies and a major expansion of health coverage that he hopes to enact later this year.
A summary of Obama’s budget request for the fiscal year that begins in October will be delivered to Congress on Thursday, with the complete, multi-hundred-page document to follow in April. But Obama plans to unveil his goals for scaling back record deficits and rebuilding the nation’s costly and inefficient health care system tomorrow, when he addresses lawmakers and budget experts at a White House summit on restoring “fiscal responsibility” to Washington.
Yesterday in his weekly radio and Internet address, Obama said he is determined to “get exploding deficits under control” and said his budget request is “sober in its assessments, honest in its accounting, and lays out in detail my strategy for investing in what we need, cutting what we don’t, and restoring fiscal discipline.”
Well, when we lose our jobs how much 'tax' revenue is he going to be pulling in now?
Maybe he can make a 'law' that says all employers can't fire their employees!
/Brilliant! Ayn Rand's coffin set to spin cycle.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:39:04am |
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:39:20am |
re: #596 Oh no...Sand People!
I want to agree, but I swear I see a bunch of I.D.er's breaking out the chisels and hammers and going to work on that wall...
Remember Legolas' maneuver in the hall?
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jcm Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:39:23am |
re: #608 Oh no...Sand People!
You know that it's in full use now. What better way to destroy the opposition. Buy their home at 'fair market' value and then build a Gov't building...
I wonder if that has any angle on the 'housing crisis'...get the market destroyed to buy up some opponents 'land' dirt cheap for the 'greater good' of taxes...hmm.. Someone might want to look into that.
Kelo had some positive reaction, in WA property rights were strengthened in the wake of Kelo. Eminent Domain should be reserved for cases where "only that property will work." Nothing else.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:40:05am |
re: #618 albusteve
the GOP doesnt need any new ideas...they know what conservatism is...they have knowingly allowed the religious right to dominate since Regan...nothing new and they crawl to the public for 'new ideas'?...what a bunch of friggin idiots...if they can't find a way to defeat MSM bias they must be blind
My question would be simply "Could a publicly atheist Republican get elected to a major office, federal senate, president."
If the honest answer is no, then we have a problem.
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:40:10am |
re: #566 albusteve
No the Republicans are NOT washed up. It will take maybe 5 seats in the Senate (unless of course Specter, Collins and Snowe see the light, in which case we are talking about two senate seats). The house doesn't matter - you're right, no one can wrest control of it from the Leftists in just to years. But we can make incremental advances there and if we get just a few Senate seats, we can stop the Left's legistlating our nation away.
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albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:40:20am |
re: #631 Wishing
My guess is that if we want to stop the jihadis, avoid hyperinflation, etc. we need electable candidates who are carrying the true conservative message of lower taxes, free enterprise, protection of personal property etc. If we are going to nominate creationists, aka divisive *fringe* people, we have already lost the battle AND the war.
I am very dismayed after last night thread...two years is a very short time to pluck someone from relative obscurity and lead a conservative charge against the donks...the GOP has to act NOW...not tomarrow or next week
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:41:35am |
re: #634 gregg
[ORPHANS]
It's the hard-knock life for us!
It's the hard-knock life for us!
[ANNIE]
'Steada treated,
[ORPHANS]
We get tricked!
[ANNIE]
'Steada kisses,
[ORPHANS]
We get kicked!
[ALL]
It's the hard-knock life!
Got no folks to speak of, so,
It's the hard-knock row we how!
[ANNIE]
Cotton blankets,
[ORPHANS]
'Steada of wool!
[ANNIE]
Empty Bellies
[ORPHANS]
'Steada of full!
[ALL]
It's the hard-knock life!
[ANNIE]
Don't if feel like the wind is always howl'n?
[KATE AND TESSIE]
Don't it seem like there's never any light!
[DUFFY AND JULY]
Once a day, don't you wanna throw the towel in?
[MOLLY AND PEPPER]
It's easier than puttin' up a fight.
[ANNIE]
No one's there when your dreams at night get creepy!
No one cares if you grow...of if you shrink!
No one dries when your eyes get wet an' weepy!
[ALL]
From all the cryin' you would think this place's a sink!
Ohhh!
Empty belly life!
Rotten smelly life!
Full of sorrow life!
No tomorrow life!
[MOLLY]
Santa Claus we never see
[ANNIE]
Santa Claus, what's that?
Who's he?
[ALL]
No one cares for you a smidge
When you're in an orphanage!
[MOLLY]
(Making a whistling sound and imitating Miss. Hannigan)
You'll stay up till this dump shines
like the top of the Chrysler Building.
[ORPHANS]
Yank the whiskers from her chin
Jab her with a safety Pin
Make her drink a mickey finn
I love you, Miss Hannigan
[MOLLY]
(whistle) Get to work!
(whistle) Strip them beds!
(whistle) I said get to work!
[ALL]
It's the hard-knock life for us
It's the hard-knock life for us
No one cares for you a smidge
When your in an orphanage
It's the hard-knock life
It's the hard-knock life
It's the hard-knock life!
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:41:56am |
re: #640 jcm
Kelo had some positive reaction, in WA property rights were strengthened in the wake of Kelo. Eminent Domain should be reserved for cases where "only that property will work." Nothing else.
Wow. Kelo being a 'step up' policy for WA. That must have been pretty bad there.
/
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jcm Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:42:00am |
re: #626 realwest
Hey jcm! What are you worried about your wallet for, you surely won't need one now that The Left is in charge in America!
Maybe a change purse, though...!
Put on a happy face.
No more wallets, no more worries.
The unicorn will provide all you need.
It's a happy, happy day!
///
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Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:43:33am |
re: #578 Oh no...Sand People!
My favorite right is the one where the government can forcibly remove you from your property that you DO own...
That one, of course, is explicitly mentioned in the Constitution. There's nothing wrong with the concept of eminent domain; any rational government would need it, or something like it, to, for example, build highways. But of course, it can be abused. See, e.g., Kelo.
And, good morning to all.
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albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:43:53am |
re: #641 Walter L. Newton
good question...I think we already know the answer...divine leadership is the new vogue...freaky and very truoblesome
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:44:21am |
re: #641 Walter L. Newton
I doubt anyone could get elected President as an atheist or agnostic, regardless of party at this point.
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Lincolntf Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:44:29am |
re: #615 Kenneth
Well, I think her original motives might have been fine. I've seen donations kind of like this one to victims of gang violence, etc., so it's not entirely off the wall. The fact that the family (the family members who didn't murder her, of course) objected is what sets this apart. That should be the end of doing anything in the cemetery or on the gravesite. The family's wishes are paramount.
If this becomes an eternal fundraiser/cause celebre rather than the simple memorial it should be then I'll conclude that it's all about Pam rather than Aqsa.
| 655 |
Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:44:42am |
Maybe he can make a 'law' that says all employers can't fire their employees!
Just wait, it won't be long...
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:44:53am |
re: #597 MJ
What's going on with m? Anyone?
He's sided with Pamela and Robert Spencer. Yes, we are all upset about Aqsa Parzev's death, but Pamela has no right to put a marker on her grave. Period.
| 657 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:45:05am |
re: #651 albusteve
good question...I think we already know the answer...divine leadership is the new vogue...freaky and very truoblesome
New? I don't remember it ever going away.
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jcm Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:45:13am |
re: #646 Oh no...Sand People!
Wow. Kelo being a 'step up' policy for WA. That must have been pretty bad there.
/
We've got other issue. Growth Management, Critical Areas Ordinances etc... all the baby of one Ron Sims, who added $200,000 in regulation costs to homes in King Co. through regulation. Obama tapped him to be number 2 at HUD.
In rural King Co. if you have more than 5 acres you have to leave 60% natural, 30% can be landscaped, only 10% can be buildings or driveways etc...
A "taking" by regulations.
| 659 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:45:22am |
re: #645 Walter L. Newton
I prefer the song and dance number from the pr0n version of "Annie": "It's a Hard Knockers Life"
| 660 |
albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:45:28am |
re: #652 buzzsawmonkey
Not to inflate your sense of self-worth, but you have been missed.
yes...now our aim should improve
| 661 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:45:39am |
re: #656 Ward Cleaver
He's sided with Pamela and Robert Spencer. Yes, we are all upset about Aqsa Parzev's death, but Pamela has no right to put a marker on her grave. Period.
Parvez's. PIMF.
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:45:40am |
re: #647 jcm
Put on a happy face.
No more wallets, no more worries.
The unicorn will provide all you need.
It's a happy, happy day!///
Run for it...:)
/s
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Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:45:45am |
re: #652 buzzsawmonkey
Not to inflate your sense of self-worth, but you have been missed.
We don't have to man-hug or anything now, do we?
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:45:52am |
re: #641 Walter L. Newton
My question would be simply "Could a publicly atheist Republican get elected to a major office, federal senate, president."
If the honest answer is no, then we have a problem.
It's the 'damned if you do / damned if you don't' argument.
If one is religious the MFM goes off on "Candidate shows some personal credibility concerns over belief."
If one isn't religious the MFM goes off on, "Many concerned about atheist lack of belief in Candidate."
There is no litmus test on religion. But like anyone, especially the MFM, will ever follow that. Too much tabloid sensationalism to be had by focusing on the religion...even the idea of 'no religion'... They know how to play all sides like a fiddle...
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:45:57am |
re: #626 realwest
Hey jcm! What are you worried about your wallet for, you surely won't need one now that The Left is in charge in America!
Maybe a change purse, though...!
Are you kidding? With the inflation we'll get, you'll need a wheelbarrow to carry around enough dollar bills to get a loaf of bread, if you can find bread.
| 667 |
Kenneth Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:45:59am |
re: #635 Scion9
I think they got in contact with some of her school friends; but I don't follow that crowds movements so I can't say for sure.
I have researched the various blogs, facebook pages and bulletin boards on the issue. The campaign led by Pamela Geller has no relation to the actual friends of Aqsa Parvez.
| 669 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:46:26am |
re: #649 buzzsawmonkey
It's a good day. It's a very good day.
Careful, or the One will hope you into the cornfield.
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albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:46:33am |
re: #657 Walter L. Newton
New? I don't remember it ever going away.
when I say new I mean just the last 6000 yrs or so...
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doppelganglander Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:46:43am |
re: #563 FrogMarch
Seems to me ACORN exists for two reasons:
Making sure people who cannot afford mortgage payments still get the home they "deserve" -and- voter fraud.No wonder the democrats just gave ACORN 4 billion.
You forgot about the part where they skim off the federal money they get for performing these "services," such as seminars on how to defraud mortgage lenders.
| 673 |
realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:46:46am |
re: #600 Honorary Yooper
Not a bad list, but as I've indicated above in #460, you're number 1 is much higher on the list than it warrants.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:46:55am |
re: #653 Scion9
I doubt anyone could get elected President as an atheist or agnostic, regardless of party at this point.
Democrats get elected all the time, and they don't even go near their religious beliefs, except for a obligatory "Thank g-d" or whatever. They may not be actual agnostics or atheists, but my point being, they don't use religion as a campaign issue, and they get elected.
| 675 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:47:04am |
re: #650 Occasional Reader
That one, of course, is explicitly mentioned in the Constitution. There's nothing wrong with the concept of eminent domain; any rational government would need it, or something like it, to, for example, build highways. But of course, it can be abused. See, e.g., Kelo.
And, good morning to all.
Hey, long time no see.
That's my worry, is the 'abused' part.
Morning.
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Kenneth Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:47:07am |
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opnion Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:47:08am |
re: #631 Wishing
My guess is that if we want to stop the jihadis, avoid hyperinflation, etc. we need electable candidates who are carrying the true conservative message of lower taxes, free enterprise, protection of personal property etc. If we are going to nominate creationists, aka divisive *fringe* people, we have already lost the battle AND the war.
Jindal won't get nominated ., at least I don't think so. If I was betting, I would say Romney will get it. The MSM will rip him on being a Mormon.
I see no evidence that he has brought his relgion into his carrer, but they will trash him anyway.
I think that we have to accept that any Republican running against Obama will be hammered.
| 678 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:47:28am |
Dow -44, SPX -8, Compx -24.
Next support - or in the case of a bounce - resistance for the Dow: 6980/7590, followed by a support further down at 6350 - don't want to talk about anything lower.
| 679 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:47:58am |
re: #669 Occasional Reader
Careful, or the One will hope you into the cornfield.
Or turn you into a Jack-in-the-box.
/that's good that you done that, barack
| 680 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:49:15am |
re: #679 Ward Cleaver
In your reply above to another post, someone mentions "m." Who the hell is "m" and why are we using code here?
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Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:49:26am |
re: #674 Walter L. Newton
they don't use religion as a campaign issue, and they get elected.
One hilarious exception; remember the second (I think it was) Bush-Kerry debate, when horseface invoked scripture a half dozen frickkin' times during the course of the debate? I don't know if that was before or after his inadvertently comical "if Jesus were alive today" remark.
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opnion Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:49:28am |
re: #641 Walter L. Newton
My question would be simply "Could a publicly atheist Republican get elected to a major office, federal senate, president."
If the honest answer is no, then we have a problem.
You have framed the issue. I am not on board with Creationism, but I wonder if it is really that fringe. I would like to see some numbers.
| 683 |
Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:49:30am |
re: #657 Walter L. Newton
New? I don't remember it ever going away.
The Roman stoics were kind of agnostic. Jefferson was a deist, who actually rewrote the New Testament which would be maddeningly blasphemous today.
| 686 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:50:42am |
Yesterday, I purchased The Forgotten Man by Amity Shales. Began reading it, and it is a most interesting book.
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:51:20am |
re: #656 Ward Cleaver
"m" isn't a he, and as far as I know has been dealing with MAJOR LEAGUE family health issues for a long time now.
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:51:22am |
re: #674 Walter L. Newton
Or the obligatory, "I pray to be an instrument of God's will"?
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:51:29am |
re: #680 Walter L. Newton
In your reply above to another post, someone mentions "m." Who the hell is "m" and why are we using code here?
m was the nic for a longtime Lizard (see posts 472 and 486), whose 21,000+ comments are now gone.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:51:40am |
re: #683 Scion9
The Roman stoics were kind of agnostic. Jefferson was a deist, who actually rewrote the New Testament which would be maddeningly blasphemous today.
Ok, ok, ok, I was like talking in my life time. Not the History of the World Part One.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:52:21am |
re: #673 realwest
Not a bad list, but as I've indicated above in #460, you're number 1 is much higher on the list than it warrants.
I just listed them in the order I wrote them, not in any particular order of importance.
| 693 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:52:32am |
re: #684 MandyManners
Tanned, rested and ready?
Tanned, by my standards. (There's a reason you've never heard the phrase "savage Irish tan".) Rested, more or less... except still recovering from Saturday-Sunday's overnight flight. Ready? Baby, "Ready" is my middle name. Well, my second middle name, right after "Danger". Occasional Danger Ready Reader, that's me.
| 694 |
nevergiveup Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:52:37am |
EU: Netanyahu-led government could harm Mideast peace talks
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
But the suicidal,homicidal, fanatics called the Palestinians are just dandy?
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:52:45am |
re: #687 realwest
"m" isn't a he, and as far as I know has been dealing with MAJOR LEAGUE family health issues for a long time now.
Thanks. I hadn't read m's stuff in a long time, and had forgotten that she was a she.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:53:10am |
re: #680 Walter L. Newton
In your reply above to another post, someone mentions "m." Who the hell is "m" and why are we using code here?
There is a poster named "m" who is asking to be banned in the now-deleted 472.
One rough quote: "If you had a delete account button you wouldn't get people doing things like this."
Funny, I hadn't heard of anyone being FORCED to post. If you want to "delete your account", just STOP POSTING!
| 697 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:53:18am |
re: #663 Occasional Reader
We don't have to man-hug or anything now, do we?
Would you prefer French-style cheek kisses instead?
/
| 698 |
phoenixgirl Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:54:01am |
re: #689 Ward Cleaver
a lot of lizards posts have been erased
a lot of lizards posts have been erased
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realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:54:08am |
re: #680 Walter L. Newton
"m" isn't Code Walter - "m" is the chosen nic of one of the longest running posters here. Try clicking her avatar (her description of herself is much different than it used to be to see how long she's been out here and the number of comments she's made.
| 701 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:54:12am |
(US NEWSWIRE) Tourism Leaders Call on State to Invest Portion of Stimulus Funds to Grow Tourism Jobs - the Get a Fist in Your Face Program.
| 702 |
Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:54:21am |
re: #696 Kosh's Shadow
Apparently having an account at LGF is like having the One Ring in your pocket.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:54:42am |
re: #699 realwest
"m" isn't Code Walter - "m" is the chosen nic of one of the longest running posters here. Try clicking her avatar (her description of herself is much different than it used to be to see how long she's been out here and the number of comments she's made.
Was it the Glenn Beck thread?
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KansasMom Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:54:48am |
re: #629 Kenneth
How many of the people involved in Pamela's campaign actually knew Aqsa? I'm guessing zero. It's a presumption to claim they love & remember her. They are using her name to promote a particular political agenda. I find that offensive.
I don't think its a big leap to assume that she is beloved and remembered. If not by her immediate family or by Pamela, then by friends, teachers, extended family, community, etc. She was a child for pete's sake.
Now about using her name for a political agenda...yes, unfortunately, I believe you are correct. And its sick.
Her family is trying to simply erase her in an umarked grave, and that's sick too.
So many people are failing this poor child, in death just as they did in life.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:54:52am |
re: #689 Ward Cleaver
m was the nic for a longtime Lizard (see posts 472 and 486), whose 21,000+ comments are now gone.
Yet another one to go the route of Song and Dance Man and commit suicide by Stinky.
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Golem Akbar Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:55:54am |
Good morning, Lizards.
I spent the day yesterday in Indio. Beautiful in the winter, hot and horrid in the summer. I'm not a desert person, but the desert in the winter is pretty nice. Went to the Date Festival and bought some amazing varieties of dates.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:56:01am |
re: #694 nevergiveup
EU: Netanyahu-led government could harm Mideast peace talks
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
But the suicidal,homicidal, fanatics called the Palestinians are just dandy?
Yes, the EU thinks Bibi won't "seriously negotiate" with the Paliterrorists, who have NEVER seriously negotiated anything other than the surrender of Israel. They only negotiate over the speed.
| 709 |
J.D. Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:56:20am |
re: #705 Honorary Yooper
Yet another one to go the route of Song and Dance Man and commit suicide by Stinky.
m was erased?
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:56:20am |
re: #704 KansasMom
I don't think its a big leap to assume that she is beloved and remembered. If not by her immediate family or by Pamela, then by friends, teachers, extended family, community, etc. She was a child for pete's sake.
Now about using her name for a political agenda...yes, unfortunately, I believe you are correct. And its sick.
Her family is trying to simply erase her in an umarked grave, and that's sick too.
So many people are failing this poor child, in death just as they did in life.
Just remembering her would be a victory against the evil committed against her.
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Scion9 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:56:41am |
re: #691 Walter L. Newton
The really sad part is I almost forgot about Jefferson and other founders. My mind immediately wanted to bypass American history and go straight to antiquity.
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rawmuse Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:56:54am |
re: #586 Gus 802
Good morning Lizards. My advice, stay away from B of A credit cards. They just stuck me with some unfair charges, it was not a big amount, I disputed them, lost, paid the bill and closed the account. Use another card if you can.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:57:13am |
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Kenneth Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:57:33am |
re: #704 KansasMom
I don't think its a big leap to assume that she is beloved and remembered. If not by her immediate family or by Pamela, then by friends, teachers, extended family, community, etc.
Leave Aqsa's true friends to remember her as they wish, not as some New York carpetbagger presumes to do so. That's my point.
| 716 |
J.D. Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:57:53am |
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:58:06am |
re: #693 Occasional Reader
Tanned, by my standards. (There's a reason you've never heard the phrase "savage Irish tan".) Rested, more or less... except still recovering from Saturday-Sunday's overnight flight. Ready? Baby, "Ready" is my middle name. Well, my second middle name, right after "Danger". Occasional Danger Ready Reader, that's me.
Too wild for Tricky Dick!
| 718 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:58:31am |
re: #712 rawmuse
Good morning Lizards. My advice, stay away from B of A credit cards. They just stuck me with some unfair charges, it was not a big amount, I disputed them, lost, paid the bill and closed the account. Use another card if you can.
Maybe they were "taxing" you to cover losses on that credit-cards-for-illegal-aliens program they set up.
| 719 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:59:16am |
| 720 |
Golem Akbar Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:59:19am |
re: #702 Scion9
Apparently having an account at LGF is like having the One Ring in your pocket.
You been looking at my shirt collar?
| 721 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:59:31am |
re: #704 KansasMom
I don't think its a big leap to assume that she is beloved and remembered. If not by her immediate family or by Pamela, then by friends, teachers, extended family, community, etc. She was a child for pete's sake.
Now about using her name for a political agenda...yes, unfortunately, I believe you are correct. And its sick.
Her family is trying to simply erase her in an umarked grave, and that's sick too.
So many people are failing this poor child, in death just as they did in life.
She's in God's hands now.
| 722 |
nevergiveup Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:59:47am |
Let me see Obama is talking on FOX and "Patton" is on AMC. Hum? Patton or Obama? Patton or Obama? I'll let you all guess.
| 724 |
realwest Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:00:11am |
Well y'all I got get moving on my chores for today.
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road.
BTW, I have written to Michael Steele on two occasions and he's been gracious enough to reply to both without using a form letter. He did say that he lacks the ability to determine who does and who doesn't get to put an (R) after their name (this was in reference to Snowe, Collins and Specter) but is looking for viable PRIMARY candidates in certain elections (iirc, Collins and Specter are up for re-election- if they don't lose the primary - in 2010).
So save yourselves some time when writing to him and don't bother asking him to "de-Republicanize" anyone.
New ideas and new, fresh faces would be appreciated by him.
| 725 |
J.D. Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:00:13am |
re: #719 Ward Cleaver
A meltdown of spectacular proportions.
Color me surprised.
I would have never guessed that.
| 726 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:00:20am |
re: #682 opnion
You have framed the issue. I am not on board with Creationism, but I wonder if it is really that fringe. I would like to see some numbers.
Ok, here's my take. It's ingrained in us, whether we are really just a nominal religionist or an active member in some church or temple.
We have grown up being "use" to a certain mind set. We don't even question it, it's just there. It's like having a TV on in the background all the time, we don't really need it, but if it was off, we would notice that something is different.
The same thing with politicians. We "expect" to hear certain catch phrases, even if the person speaking them cares a wit or not. If they don't say certain things pro-religious, we notice. If they do say certain things pro-religious, we don't even make it an item on our check list.
Sure, the is a contingent that REALLY listens, and really cares, and they are the ones that make the most noise. But a lot of citizens only need to hear that religious background noise to feel secure in their candidate.
And this goes for Democrats too. The amount of background noise they need is less, and on their side they do have the pro-religious contingent, mostly geared toward the liberation theology styled spiritually, so, any "leftist" political ideas will sound a lot like their religious beliefs. That's where the Democrats get their advantage from the pew.
| 727 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:00:24am |
re: #629 Kenneth
How many of the people involved in Pamela's campaign actually knew Aqsa? I'm guessing zero. It's a presumption to claim they love & remember her. They are using her name to promote a particular political agenda. I find that offensive.
Mixed feelings on this one, myself. One doesn't have to endorse Pamela Geller's general nuttiness to feel disgust over the tacit whitewashing of the evil behind this girl's death by the media. Mark Steyn recently noted some jaw-dropping examples of moral equivalency that cropped up in the Canadian press; one, for instance, that melded Aqsa's murder into the "oh, what father hasn't had friction with his willful teenage daugher?", as if her father strangling her were the equivalent of Mike Brady getting mad at Marcia for getting her ears pierced.
| 728 |
Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:00:35am |
| 730 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:01:24am |
re: #722 nevergiveup
Let me see Obama is talking on FOX and "Patton" is on AMC. Hum? Patton or Obama? Patton or Obama? I'll let you all guess.
Oh, noez. What will the markets do today?
| 731 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:01:30am |
re: #706 buzzsawmonkey
I have the One Ring on my cell phone.
You should change it. The people next to you on the bus are really getting sick of hearing "Oops, I Did It Again".
| 732 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:01:38am |
re: #712 rawmuse
Good morning Lizards. My advice, stay away from B of A credit cards. They just stuck me with some unfair charges, it was not a big amount, I disputed them, lost, paid the bill and closed the account. Use another card if you can.
I'm in the process of doing that. They bought MBNA; I had not liked BofA for a long time. They seem to give you about 24 hours to send out a check from when you actually get the bill if you want to get it there on time.
I get the bill from their web site and pay via electronic bill payer to keep on time. Even then, they don't put the bill on the web site until less than 3 weeks from when it is due.
I did succeed in getting a charge removed, though. I got a "membership fee" on a card I had just paid off and asked them to close - the fee came in before they closed it. I told them I'd take a loan from my credit union and pay off the other cards. They reversed the fee.
(BTW, they will hate it when I close the next one; has about $1000 left, with a limit of $48,000, not that I ever used that much (do I seem like a Democrat or something?))
| 733 |
J.D. Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:01:47am |
re: #712 rawmuse
Good morning Lizards. My advice, stay away from B of A credit cards. They just stuck me with some unfair charges, it was not a big amount, I disputed them, lost, paid the bill and closed the account. Use another card if you can.
They didn't offer to forgive the charges to keep you from closing the account?
| 734 |
nevergiveup Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:02:06am |
re: #730 MandyManners
Oh, noez. What will the markets do today?
Maybe they have all given up and are watching Patton also?
| 735 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:02:11am |
re: #693 Occasional Reader
Tanned, by my standards. (There's a reason you've never heard the phrase "savage Irish tan".) Rested, more or less... except still recovering from Saturday-Sunday's overnight flight. Ready? Baby, "Ready" is my middle name. Well, my second middle name, right after "Danger". Occasional Danger Ready Reader, that's me.
Mitchell just came to mind...
| 736 |
irongrampa Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:02:47am |
Good morning from the Adirondacks. Cold and blustery here this AM.
Dunno about the reast of you, I'm itchy for Spring.
Had enough of the Winter Wonderland.
| 737 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:03:12am |
re: #697 Honorary Yooper
Would you prefer French-style cheek kisses instead?
/
From buzzsawmonkey, I'll decline. (Nothing personal, buzz.) Now, Carla Bruni, on the other hand...
| 738 |
nyc redneck Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:03:18am |
re: #544 HoosierHoops
{Bella} The threads were brutal this weekend..People just snapping and melting down..
everyone i know is feeling a gnawing in their stomach. waiting for the worst to happen. and O keeps insisting it will. it is not surprising that people are snapping and melting down.
the negativity that O has spawned is contagious. it affects people like a low grade fever. a dull ache. lots of my friends are on anti-depressants now. people are walking around town w/ such long faces.
i'm just hoping for an early spring.
| 739 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:03:36am |
| 741 |
Golem Akbar Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:03:49am |
re: #729 taxfreekiller
#707
on dates and figs
the juice from the place where you pull the date and or fig from the tree.put that on your sun spots and age spots and almost cancer on arms , legs and back and they go away .
burns like hell sometimes, but it works, Apache Medicine.
figs are best, some other tree sap helps also
I hear the aloe plant also does wonders. I had a nasty scab on my nose for weeks, thought it might be something the doc should check out, put aloe on it for about a month, each night before bed, and the scab disappeared and now the skin is smooth and clear.
| 742 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:04:02am |
re: #734 nevergiveup
Maybe they have all given up and are watching Patton also?
The economy would be better off if they did.
| 743 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:04:21am |
re: #722 nevergiveup
Let me see Obama is talking on FOX and "Patton" is on AMC. Hum? Patton or Obama? Patton or Obama? I'll let you all guess.
When you put your hand into a pile of goo that used to be your 401(k)... you'll know what to do.
| 744 |
Leonidas Hoplite Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:04:33am |
re: #722 nevergiveup
Let me see Obama is talking on FOX and "Patton" is on AMC. Hum? Patton or Obama? Patton or Obama? I'll let you all guess.
"When you put your hand into a bunch of goo, that a moment before was your best friend's face, you'll know what to do."
Definately not something you'll ever hear from The One.
| 745 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:04:49am |
re: #736 irongrampa
Good morning from the Adirondacks. Cold and blustery here this AM.
Dunno about the reast of you, I'm itchy for Spring.
Had enough of the Winter Wonderland.
I'm sick of the cold, too.
| 746 |
opnion Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:05:50am |
re: #726 Walter L. Newton
Right , a religious fanatic will get ripped apart & an avowed atheist is not electable. A candidate needs to profess some moderate religion affiliation to go the distance.
The problem as I see it, the MSM can make a person of mainstream views look like a fanatic if they need to, to protect BHO.
| 747 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:06:01am |
re: #743 Occasional Reader
When you put your hand into a pile of goo that used to be your 401(k)... you'll know what to do.
Schwing-a-ding-up-ding!
| 748 |
KansasMom Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:06:03am |
re: #732 Kosh's Shadow
We were pretty happy with MBNA too, until they sold off to BofA. When BofA took over the account, the interest rate got jacked up. About to pay off and close it out too. Will probably be thanking BofA in the end tho, fo giving us the smack upside the head we needed to pay it off and live debt-free.
| 749 |
Leonidas Hoplite Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:06:25am |
re: #743 Occasional Reader
When you put your hand into a pile of goo that used to be your 401(k)... you'll know what to do.
What are the freaky deaky odds of two posts hitting one after the other quoting that exact line?
| 750 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:06:40am |
re: #719 Ward Cleaver
A meltdown of spectacular proportions.
It's a shame when longtime lizards simply throw away their accounts like that. There's no need to meltdown like that. If you don't like the direction we're going, just simply walk away without the silly meltdown.
Unless, of course, you want to have a meltdown so you can have that sick aura of being a "martyr for the cause" over at one of the AtS sites. If so, I hope you enjoy their company, and just remember that those folks got banned for a good reason.
| 751 |
rawmuse Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:07:18am |
re: #733 J.D.
They didn't offer to forgive the charges to keep you from closing the account?
No here is the scenario.
Rawmuse had a Voice over internet phone service. It worked pretty good for some years, then turned all sucky last October. Rawmuse changed phone service back to ATT. Old phone provider get fired, via their web site. At the same time, B of A, issues me a new card, with new account numbers, standard practice for most card companies, they do that occasionally.
So far so good, right?
B of A keeps paying the old phone provider and sending me the bill. I call them on it, dispute the charges. They find for the vendor, says I owe them the money even though the vendor is billing the old card, the one that B of A themselves closed!
Enough.
| 752 |
Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:07:18am |
re: #744 Leonidas Hoplite
"When you put your hand into a bunch of goo, that a moment before was your best friend's face, you'll know what to do."
Definately not something you'll ever hear from The One.
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking."
- General George Patton Jr
| 753 |
Golem Akbar Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:08:13am |
| 754 |
nevergiveup Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:08:22am |
Durban II draft document 'getting worse'
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
But But But But But But But Obama said the USA will participate in the negotiations to improve it?
| 755 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:08:44am |
re: #746 opnion
Right , a religious fanatic will get ripped apart & an avowed atheist is not electable. A candidate needs to profess some moderate religion affiliation to go the distance.
The problem as I see it, the MSM can make a person of mainstream views look like a fanatic if they need to, to protect BHO.
It will be the most brutal MFM attack ever witnessed regardless in 2011 on the one who runs against CBBHO. I don't think we will be able to comprehend or fathom the depths the MFM will go.
| 756 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:09:08am |
re: #749 Leonidas Hoplite
What are the freaky deaky odds of two posts hitting one after the other quoting that exact line?
My mind-control rays are having their desired effect. Excsssellent.
| 757 |
irongrampa Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:09:19am |
re: #745 MandyManners
Snow not withstanding, you can feel a difference when outside lately. Sun's higher, and the light quality has changed.
Time to really crank up the dry fly tying, I guess. Maybe just this ONCE I'll have an adequate supply.
Although the loss rate is amazing.
| 758 |
Leonidas Hoplite Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:09:24am |
re: #752 Dustyvet
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking."
- General George Patton Jr
That is a great quote, and absolutely true!
| 759 |
J.D. Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:10:02am |
re: #751 rawmuse
That's pretty bad.
Stupid on their part.
Bad business.
| 760 |
VegasRick Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:10:31am |
re: #744 Leonidas Hoplite
"When you put your hand into a bunch of goo, that a moment before was your best friend's face, you'll know what to do."
Definately not something you'll ever hear from The One.
I'm going to stop calling him 0 and start calling him "Minus Man". Everytime he opens his mouth the markets go down, down, down.
| 761 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:10:34am |
re: #751 rawmuse
Feh.
I do have to say one good thing about American Express, in contrast; I've found them to be excellent on dealing with disputed charges.
| 762 |
rawmuse Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:11:05am |
re: #759 J.D.
It was incompetent. Not what you want with a bank.
| 764 |
nevergiveup Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:12:56am |
Auto team drives imports
Fed task force has few new U.S. cars
[Link: www.detnews.com...]
Well most of them don't pay taxes either so they can afford the more pricey imports?
| 765 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:12:56am |
re: #757 irongrampa
Snow not withstanding, you can feel a difference when outside lately. Sun's higher, and the light quality has changed.
Time to really crank up the dry fly tying, I guess. Maybe just this ONCE I'll have an adequate supply.
Although the loss rate is amazing.
Oh, yes, the light is changing! I've seen a few daffodils blooming, and some early-budding trees are doing their things.
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Golem Akbar Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:13:07am |
re: #755 Oh no...Sand People!
It will be the most brutal MFM attack ever witnessed regardless in 2011 on the one who runs against CBBHO. I don't think we will be able to comprehend or fathom the depths the MFM will go.
Not if the One is vulnerable by his bad decisions. I don't wish failure on Him, but already he is heading us in the wrong direction. We need to get our next generation of candidates ready and primed. Another Reagan is just waiting to win the next election!
| 768 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:14:16am |
Isn't BoA the one that is giving credit cards to illegal immigrants?
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:14:19am |
re: #760 VegasRick
I'm going to stop calling him 0 and start calling him "Minus Man". Everytime he opens his mouth the markets go down, down, down.
My keyboard agrees; I keep hitting - when I mean 0 (but mostly when I'm writing about the minus man)
| 770 |
rawmuse Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:14:41am |
re: #761 Occasional Reader
This was an AMEX card with a B of A logo.
| 771 |
Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:14:46am |
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ilzito guacamolito Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:14:48am |
re: #765 MandyManners
Daffodils and budding trees?!? Where are you ? That sounds wonderful.
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rw in san diego Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:15:01am |
re: #707 Golem Akbar
Good morning, Lizards.
I spent the day yesterday in Indio. Beautiful in the winter, hot and horrid in the summer. I'm not a desert person, but the desert in the winter is pretty nice. Went to the Date Festival and bought some amazing varieties of dates.
Good morning, GA. Is Indio where they have the date shakes?
| 774 |
Kenneth Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:15:02am |
re: #727 Occasional Reader
This issue cuts very close to me, having 1 daughter & 3 step daughters of my own, and the fact the murder occurred in my town (next door, but Mississauga is essentially a suburb of Toronto). But let's not confuse the distinct issues.
1. The so-called honor killing was horrific & criminal. We all agree with that. 2. The excuses & evasions written by some members of the media (usually islamist journalists) is disgusting, and sadly, all too typical. I have also read several Muslim blogs & bulletin boards on the topic and there is quite a lot of anti-honor killing sentiment expressed there. Some Muslim journalists have been outspoken in condemning the killing and blaming the retrograde fundamentalism of certain Muslims.
3. The fact that her family has chosen to mark Aqsa's grave with a small numbered stone is appalling.
But none of these issues grants Pamela & her group the right to force a memorial of their choosing onto Aqsa grave. The list of people who donated to Pam's fund did not include a single person who actually knew Aqsa. For them to say they remember and love Aqsa is an offensive presumption.
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nevergiveup Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:15:34am |
re: #768 MandyManners
Isn't BoA the one that is giving credit cards to illegal immigrants?
Yup. That's my Bank. I am so proud. Unfortunately I am stuck with them, but as I can unload my mortgages,loans etc, then I'm outa there.
| 776 |
rawmuse Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:15:56am |
re: #763 taxfreekiller
Barter is considered income, to the IRS.
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opnion Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:15:56am |
re: #755 Oh no...Sand People!
It will be the most brutal MFM attack ever witnessed regardless in 2011 on the one who runs against CBBHO. I don't think we will be able to comprehend or fathom the depths the MFM will go.
No doubt & the race card will be liberally played.
| 778 |
Wishing Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:16:00am |
re: #749 Leonidas Hoplite
What are the freaky deaky odds of two posts hitting one after the other quoting that exact line?
That was pretty neat!
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albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:16:01am |
re: #766 Golem Akbar
Not if the One is vulnerable by his bad decisions. I don't wish failure on Him, but already he is heading us in the wrong direction. We need to get our next generation of candidates ready and primed. Another Reagan is just waiting to win the next election!
if the MSM turns on BO the fall will be a major league crash and burn...he may very well precipitate it himself...one can only HOPE
| 780 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:16:21am |
re: #767 buzzsawmonkey
Come to think of it, my attitude toward my iPhone sometimes borders on the Gollumesque. My preciousss
| 781 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:16:43am |
re: #766 Golem Akbar
Not if the One is vulnerable by his bad decisions. I don't wish failure on Him, but already he is heading us in the wrong direction. We need to get our next generation of candidates ready and primed. Another Reagan is just waiting to win the next election!
I hope you are right, but my moonbat sense tells me that Obama could adopt every policy of President Bush and they will not bat an eye...
FISA: Check
Wiretaps: Check
Gitmo: Check
But it's still early in the game. Things may 'change'.
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J.D. Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:17:02am |
re: #781 Oh no...Sand People!
I hope you are right, but my moonbat sense tells me that Obama could adopt every policy of President Bush and they will not bat an eye...
FISA: Check
Wiretaps: Check
Gitmo: CheckBut it's still early in the game. Things may 'change'.
We can only 'hope'.
| 783 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:17:20am |
re: #770 rawmuse
This was an AMEX card with a B of A logo.
Huh. I've never heard of such a thing. Never had an Amex card that was not just plain issued by Amex.
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:17:36am |
re: #766 Golem Akbar
Not if the One is vulnerable by his bad decisions. I don't wish failure on Him, but already he is heading us in the wrong direction. We need to get our next generation of candidates ready and primed. Another Reagan is just waiting to win the next election!
“No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair.”
George Patton
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nevergiveup Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:17:54am |
For those of you not watching Patton. He is in Sicily now driving towards Messina.
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:18:18am |
re: #783 Occasional Reader
Huh. I've never heard of such a thing. Never had an Amex card that was not just plain issued by Amex.
Bank of Acorn is now selling AMEX cards to illegals?!
/
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irongrampa Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:18:40am |
Yesterday I spent most the day visiting web sites, reading posts. They were,presumably, populated with the 42% who didn't vote Obama.
The postings were overwhelmingly negative about the economy, taxes, etc. Maybe today we'll spend some time at the other side, tho' that's a real chore . Can't take too much of their spew.
Dong all this is to see if the attitude I see here is a prevalent one, no matter the political leaning.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:18:48am |
re: #767 buzzsawmonkey
Or for network geeks, from UserFriendly
(Keep going on the strips; the story continues through Oct 30, 1999 )
One ping to rule them all
One ping to find them
One ping to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them
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Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:18:50am |
re: #774 Kenneth
But none of these issues grants Pamela & her group the right to force a memorial of their choosing onto Aqsa grave.
I agree that they don't have the right to force it. But I can't fault them for making some noise about this.
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VegasRick Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:20:35am |
re: #769 Kosh's Shadow
My keyboard agrees; I keep hitting - when I mean 0 (but mostly when I'm writing about the minus man)
Where is the bottom? I thought it was 8,000 but obviously I was wrong.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:20:58am |
re: #772 ilzito guacamolito
Daffodils and budding trees?!? Where are you ? That sounds wonderful.
In a fly-over state. To be accurate, the daffodils that are blooming are in spots protected from the wind and are in bright sunlight.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:21:13am |
re: #786 buzzsawmonkey
No, that's "Lord of the Tight Pants."
Nah, you're thinking of Lord of the G-String. Which is the title of an actual soft-core pr0n flick I channel-surfed across late one night on Showtime (I think), which was actually kind of hilarious. And yes, of COURSE the main hobbit-like protagonist's name was "Dildo".
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:22:07am |
re: #775 nevergiveup
Yup. That's my Bank. I am so proud. Unfortunately I am stuck with them, but as I can unload my mortgages,loans etc, then I'm outa there.
I remember my dad telling me that he got a BoA card when he heard about it then, he wrote a long letter cancelling it and telling them why.
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VegasRick Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:22:10am |
re: #777 opnion
No doubt & the race card will be liberally played.
Michael Steele can state that he is blacker than minus man.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:22:42am |
re: #783 Occasional Reader
Huh. I've never heard of such a thing. Never had an Amex card that was not just plain issued by Amex.
Neither have I.
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yma o hyd Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:23:05am |
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Looks like Spring is vaguely thinking of actually making an appearance!
Lots and lots of crocus out in the parks already. Daffs still a bit hesitant.
Birds starting to look for nesting material - yep, won't be long now!
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Peacekeeper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:23:08am |
re: #794 Occasional Reader
You're a renaissance man. Me, I can't even spell renaissance.
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:23:43am |
re: #794 Occasional Reader
Nah, you're thinking of Lord of the G-String. Which is the title of an actual soft-core pr0n flick I channel-surfed across late one night on Showtime (I think), which was actually kind of hilarious. And yes, of COURSE the main hobbit-like protagonist's name was "Dildo".
Yes, you have been missed.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:23:43am |
re: #794 Occasional Reader
Nah, you're thinking of Lord of the G-String. Which is the title of an actual soft-core pr0n flick I channel-surfed across late one night on Showtime (I think), which was actually kind of hilarious. And yes, of COURSE the main hobbit-like protagonist's name was "Dildo".
What's funny, is that in Harvard Lampoon's Bored of the Rings, Bilbo Baggins becomes "Dildo Bugger".
Even more, at some point, he sings
"I sit on the floor and pick my nose
And think of dirty things
Of deviant dwarves who suck their toes
And elves who drub their dings"
(I'll skip the rest of this in the interest of taste. That and the fact that I forgot the rest of it.)
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:23:47am |
re: #794 Occasional Reader
Nah, you're thinking of Lord of the G-String. Which is the title of an actual soft-core pr0n flick I channel-surfed across late one night on Showtime (I think), which was actually kind of hilarious. And yes, of COURSE the main hobbit-like protagonist's name was "Dildo".
Heard the follow up was a one woman movie called "Elf Loving".
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ilzito guacamolito Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:23:50am |
re: #793 MandyManners
Still better than nothing! I am freezing my keester in Jersey. We had some snow again yesterday. No budding in sight.
| 804 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:23:58am |
re: #796 VegasRick
Michael Steele can state that he is blacker than minus man.
Because 'minus man' isn't black.
| 805 |
Kenneth Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:24:33am |
re: #790 Occasional Reader
They are making the wrong noise about the the wrong issue. The issue for them now is that neither the cemetery nor the University of Guelph will accept Pam's political protest piece. //The outrage!
| 806 |
nevergiveup Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:24:47am |
re: #797 MandyManners
Neither have I.
If I remember a few years ago there was a law suit and since then there is some cross business with Amex and some banks. I don't remember the details, but there are some Amex cards tied to banks.
| 807 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:24:57am |
re: #799 Peacekeeper
You're a renaissance man. Me, I can't even spell renaissance.
If you misspell "renaissance", I'll have to get medieval on your ass.
| 809 |
nevergiveup Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:25:29am |
re: #803 ilzito guacamolito
Still better than nothing! I am freezing my keester in Jersey. We had some snow again yesterday. No budding in sight.
Are you in Northern Joosey. Us down here in Bergen County didn't have any?
| 810 |
rawmuse Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:26:00am |
Later, lizards! I will try to keep up, but the rate of speed that Charles has been throwing stuff at us is increasing. I feel like I am drinking water from a fire hose. Y'all be good.
| 811 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:26:15am |
re: #807 Occasional Reader
If you misspell "renaissance", I'll have to get medieval on your ass.
PK will just need a reformation.
| 812 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:26:24am |
re: #806 nevergiveup
If I remember a few years ago there was a law suit and since then there is some cross business with Amex and some banks. I don't remember the details, but there are some Amex cards tied to banks.
Yes, there was an antitrust lawsuit against American Express over its rule that banks that issued another credit card couldn't issue an AmEx one. AmEx lost, and BofA issues them now.
| 813 |
Peacekeeper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:26:28am |
re: #807 Occasional Reader
If you misspell "renaissance", I'll have to get medieval on your ass.
Typical enlightenment attitude.
| 815 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:27:07am |
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VegasRick Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:27:18am |
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:27:52am |
re: #792 VegasRick
Where is the bottom? I thought it was 8,000 but obviously I was wrong.
it can't get much lower than 0, can it?
/white smoke
| 818 |
Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:28:04am |
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Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:28:28am |
re: #805 Kenneth
They are making the wrong noise about the the wrong issue. The issue for them now is that neither the cemetery nor the University of Guelph will accept Pam's political protest piece. //The outrage!
I do agree that they are wrong on that point. No right to force their own grave marker, no matter how loathesome the family is for dumping Aqsa in a nearly unmarked grave.
| 820 |
VegasRick Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:28:51am |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:29:02am |
re: #817 redc1c4
it can't get much lower than 0, can it?
/white smoke
Why do you think he's called "Minus Man"?
But he has a plan to take money from all of us ("taxes") to prop up the economy.
| 822 |
Russkilitlover Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:29:05am |
re: #808 Ben Hur
Who's going to apologize to Condit?
Not me. He's still a douchebag who wore his Christianity and family values on his sleeve, while bonking the intern.
| 823 |
Macker Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:29:22am |
Good Morning Lizards! I am very cautious today, for it is possible my back has turned the corner as far as pain goes. Awaiting X-ray results, back to chiropractor too.
Pray for me, please.
| 824 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:29:30am |
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Leonidas Hoplite Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:30:21am |
re: #824 Kosh's Shadow
Is this the "bring out your dead" thread?
Everything begins and ends with Monty Python...
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:30:34am |
re: #785 nevergiveup
For those of you not watching Patton. He is in Sicily now driving towards Messina.
i'm in the town square, waiting for Monty. %-)
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MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:30:51am |
re: #803 ilzito guacamolito
Still better than nothing! I am freezing my keester in Jersey. We had some snow again yesterday. No budding in sight.
I got my fill of snow in Denver. Never again will I live where it is common.
| 828 |
Macker Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:31:03am |
re: #808 Ben Hur
Who's going to apologize to Condit?
I highly doubt this is going to happen. That said, in my memory, Condit was the last Democrat (notice NO hammer & sickle there!) to be driven from office due to a scandal.
| 829 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:31:10am |
re: #814 Ben Hur
Oh, I thought you were banned.
This comes to mind:
The report of my death was an exaggeration.
-Mark Twain
or this:
I am alive and well and unconcerned about the rumors of my death. But if I were dead, I would be the last to know.
-Paul McCartney
| 830 |
Kenneth Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:31:14am |
The Democratic Party has lost whatever anchor it once had in the real world and is blowin' in the wind. It has become the party of nothing; led by vapid nothings, who stand for nothing. Pragmatism? This is psychosis.
| 831 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:31:31am |
re: #806 nevergiveup
If I remember a few years ago there was a law suit and since then there is some cross business with Amex and some banks. I don't remember the details, but there are some Amex cards tied to banks.
First I've heard of it.
| 832 |
Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:31:34am |
re: #824 Kosh's Shadow
Is this the "bring out your dead" thread?
Large Man with Dead Body: Who's that then?
The Dead Collector: I dunno, must be a king.
Large Man with Dead Body: Why?
The Dead Collector: He hasn't got shit all over him.
| 833 |
redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:32:01am |
re: #815 Honorary Yooper
Don't go all baroque on us.
we're all gonna be baroque here in a few months, unless someone gets all medieval on the market.
| 834 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:32:05am |
re: #808 Ben Hur
Who's going to apologize to Condit?
I reckon it's the same one who will keep the illegals out.
| 835 |
yma o hyd Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:32:18am |
Bushfires starting up again, in Australia:
Hundreds flee as Australia fires fanned back to life
| 836 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:32:25am |
re: #812 Kosh's Shadow
Yes, there was an antitrust lawsuit against American Express over its rule that banks that issued another credit card couldn't issue an AmEx one. AmEx lost, and BofA issues them now.
I'm not aware of the issue or the suit, but that seems bizarre. Why shouldn't Amex be able to choose who they do business with?
| 837 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:33:15am |
re: #833 redc1c4
we're all gonna be baroque here in a few months, unless someone gets all medieval on the market.
The market just needs a Reformation to avoid spiraling into the Dark Ages.
| 838 |
topazpilot Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:33:20am |
Don't know how many here know about Noggin, but I'm sure those with young children know well the childrens cable channel. Lately I've noticed that they have quick education breaks explaining, with cute cartoon characters, all about the great President Barack Obama. My son is four so we've been watching the channel off and on for the last three years and I never witnessed anything teaching the kids about President George W. Bush and I'm sure they never had anything before that about him either.
It asks you to visit parents.nickjr.com and see more about this historic event and includes a link for finding kid and family friendly activities, restaurants and hotels in the nation's capital for the "historic inaugural year."
Welcome to the brainwashing of our children. Thank the heavens that my son stated recently, "Barack Obama is not my friend."
| 839 |
Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:33:31am |
re: #832 Dustyvet
Large Man with Dead Body: Who's that then?
The Dead Collector: I dunno, must be a king.
Large Man with Dead Body: Why?
The Dead Collector: He hasn't got shit all over him.
Well I didn't vote for him.
| 840 |
Ben Hur Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:33:33am |
re: #822 Russkilitlover
Not me. He's still a douchebag who wore his Christianity and family values on his sleeve, while bonking the intern.
That's not why he was forced out.
| 841 |
Golem Akbar Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:33:38am |
re: #773 rw in san diego
Good morning, GA. Is Indio where they have the date shakes?
Yes, heaven in only 1,000 calories.
| 842 |
VegasRick Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:33:45am |
OT, But GREAT news![Link: www.foxnews.com...]
You must be fucking kidding me! The gaffer is in charge of saving the economy? This is not amateur hour, this is stupid on steroids!
| 843 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:34:04am |
For some reason, I have images of cod pieces in my mind.
| 844 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:34:07am |
re: #837 Honorary Yooper
The market just needs a Reformation to avoid spiraling into the Dark Ages.
A lil Sharia Finance is just what the doctor ordered...oh, you said avoid...missed that.
/
| 845 |
Afrocity Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:34:08am |
Morning Lizards,
I was just watching FOX news and it sure looks like the DNC wants Jindal to run. Their operatives continuously say it during interviews. They want Jindal to run so he can lose. We need to do a Trojan horse on this one.
| 846 |
yma o hyd Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:34:14am |
re: #827 MandyManners
I got my fill of snow in Denver. Never again will I live where it is common.
I totally sympathise!
Unless one's an Inuit, snow is totally useless.
Ok, its nice for children to build snowpeople - but otherwise ... naahh!
| 847 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:34:16am |
re: #836 Occasional Reader
I'm not aware of the issue or the suit, but that seems bizarre. Why shouldn't Amex be able to choose who they do business with?
Somehow it was a restraint of trade for Amex to say that a bank could issue Amex cards but not Visa or MasterCard.
Kind of like Hagen Daz telling a supermarket they can't carry their ice cream if they carry Ben and Jerry's (which I believe also happened.)
| 848 |
Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:35:03am |
re: #843 MandyManners
For some reason, I have images of cod pieces in my mind.
Boy, if that's not Freudian I don't know what is.
| 849 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:35:06am |
re: #838 topazpilot
Don't know how many here know about Noggin, but I'm sure those with young children know well the childrens cable channel. Lately I've noticed that they have quick education breaks explaining, with cute cartoon characters, all about the great President Barack Obama. My son is four so we've been watching the channel off and on for the last three years and I never witnessed anything teaching the kids about President George W. Bush and I'm sure they never had anything before that about him either.
It asks you to visit parents.nickjr.com and see more about this historic event and includes a link for finding kid and family friendly activities, restaurants and hotels in the nation's capital for the "historic inaugural year."
Welcome to the brainwashing of our children. Thank the heavens that my son stated recently, "Barack Obama is not my friend."
IT'S EVERYWHERE!
| 850 |
Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:35:14am |
re: #839 Ford_Prefect
Well I didn't vote for him.
King Arthur: I am your king.
Woman: Well I didn't vote for you.
King Arthur: You don't vote for kings.
Woman: Well how'd you become king then?
[Angelic music plays... ]
King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king.
Dennis: [interrupting] Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
| 851 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:35:22am |
re: #842 VegasRick
OT, But GREAT news![Link: www.foxnews.com...]
You must be fucking kidding me! The gaffer is in charge of saving the economy? This is not amateur hour, this is stupid on steroids!
Biden doesn't know that he is now officially under the bus. Scapegoat to the failure known as 'Porkulus'.
| 852 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:35:31am |
re: #843 MandyManners
For some reason, I have images of cod pieces in my mind.
And this is different from your usual mindset because...
| 853 |
Peacekeeper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:35:32am |
re: #843 MandyManners
For some reason, I have images of cod pieces in my mind.
We've haddock with your sick jokes.
| 854 |
redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:35:36am |
anyone seen Killian this AM? he was cautiously perky early this AM over the overnight prebuys or whatever they call them...
guess he may be off drinking already, from the what i can see of the ticker.
| 855 |
Golem Akbar Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:35:42am |
re: #781 Oh no...Sand People!
I hope you are right, but my moonbat sense tells me that Obama could adopt every policy of President Bush and they will not bat an eye...
FISA: Check
Wiretaps: Check
Gitmo: CheckBut it's still early in the game. Things may 'change'.
If he does adopt Bush policies, then I would be okay with that. As much as I'd like to see a Republican as POTUS, I still want the US to be okay. I'll take Obama stealing the Bush Doctrine as a sign of success.
| 856 |
jcm Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:35:45am |
re: #819 Occasional Reader
I do agree that they are wrong on that point. No right to force their own grave marker, no matter how loathesome the family is for dumping Aqsa in a nearly unmarked grave.
The State can take children from the home for abuse and neglect. A legal method of making the point would be to posthumously remove a murdered minor child from her parents custody, terminate their parental rights. Then have the state erect a marker. I don't now how this would work for an adult child.
This would be a means of sending the message honor killings are not acceptable, above and beyond any charges. The families lose of face by doing this would be enormous.
| 857 |
Ben Hur Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:35:52am |
Britons flee French island of Guadeloupe as rioters turn on white families
End the Brutal Occupation of Guadeloupe!
| 859 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:36:31am |
re: #845 Afrocity
Morning Lizards,
I was just watching FOX news and it sure looks like the DNC wants Jindal to run. Their operatives continuously say it during interviews. They want Jindal to run so he can lose. We need to do a Trojan horse on this one.
Yep, the MFM is doint the bidding of the DNC.
What do you mean about a Trojan horse?
(Shaddup, OR.)
| 860 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:36:32am |
Down -80, SPX -10, Compex -29
Vunderbar...zee Stimu-Less© she works.
| 861 |
Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:36:41am |
re: #850 Dustyvet
King Arthur: I am your king.
Woman: Well I didn't vote for you.
King Arthur: You don't vote for kings.
Woman: Well how'd you become king then?
[Angelic music plays... ]
King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king.
Dennis: [interrupting] Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Shut up!
| 862 |
Leonidas Hoplite Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:36:48am |
re: #838 topazpilot
Don't know how many here know about Noggin, but I'm sure those with young children know well the childrens cable channel. Lately I've noticed that they have quick education breaks explaining, with cute cartoon characters, all about the great President Barack Obama. My son is four so we've been watching the channel off and on for the last three years and I never witnessed anything teaching the kids about President George W. Bush and I'm sure they never had anything before that about him either.
It asks you to visit parents.nickjr.com and see more about this historic event and includes a link for finding kid and family friendly activities, restaurants and hotels in the nation's capital for the "historic inaugural year."
Welcome to the brainwashing of our children. Thank the heavens that my son stated recently, "Barack Obama is not my friend."
Yes, that brainwashing is evident in my son's elementary school. It's pathetic. No wonder our public schools deliver such mediocre results.
| 863 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:37:03am |
re: #838 topazpilot
Don't know how many here know about Noggin, but I'm sure those with young children know well the childrens cable channel. Lately I've noticed that they have quick education breaks explaining, with cute cartoon characters, all about the great President Barack Obama. My son is four so we've been watching the channel off and on for the last three years and I never witnessed anything teaching the kids about President George W. Bush and I'm sure they never had anything before that about him either.
It asks you to visit parents.nickjr.com and see more about this historic event and includes a link for finding kid and family friendly activities, restaurants and hotels in the nation's capital for the "historic inaugural year."
Welcome to the brainwashing of our children. Thank the heavens that my son stated recently, "Barack Obama is not my friend."
All the Nick channels are going full bore on the whole "green/climate change" thing, too. My kids don't like Obama, either, because, in their words, "he thinks it's okay to kill babies".
| 864 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:37:05am |
re: #839 Ford_Prefect
Well I didn't vote for him.
Arthur: You don't vote for kings.
Dennis: How'd you become king, then?
Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying that by divine providence, I, Arthur was to be King of England.
Today's version:
The Ladies and Gentlemen of the MSM, their arms clad in the purest shimmering bullshit, held aloft 0bama as the 0ne chosen by their editorial providence to be king of America.
| 865 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:37:18am |
re: #846 yma o hyd
I totally sympathise!
Unless one's an Inuit, snow is totally useless.
Ok, its nice for children to build snowpeople - but otherwise ... naahh!
And, snow days are fun...FOR THE CHILDREN.
| 866 |
Leonidas Hoplite Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:37:23am |
re: #846 yma o hyd
I totally sympathise!
Unless one's an Inuit, snow is totally useless.
Ok, its nice for children to build snowpeople - but otherwise ... naahh!
It's not useless if you like to ski.
| 867 |
Desert Dog Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:37:31am |
re: #838 topazpilot
Don't know how many here know about Noggin, but I'm sure those with young children know well the childrens cable channel. Lately I've noticed that they have quick education breaks explaining, with cute cartoon characters, all about the great President Barack Obama. My son is four so we've been watching the channel off and on for the last three years and I never witnessed anything teaching the kids about President George W. Bush and I'm sure they never had anything before that about him either.
It asks you to visit parents.nickjr.com and see more about this historic event and includes a link for finding kid and family friendly activities, restaurants and hotels in the nation's capital for the "historic inaugural year."
Welcome to the brainwashing of our children. Thank the heavens that my son stated recently, "Barack Obama is not my friend."
I believe that is called:
TRANSITIVE VERB:
in·doc·tri·nat·ed , in·doc·tri·nat·ing , in·doc·tri·nates
1. To instruct in a body of doctrine or principles.
2. To imbue with a partisan or ideological point of view: a generation of children who had been indoctrinated against the values of their parents.
Noggin is/was a good channel for the kiddies. Luckily, my 9 year old prefers to play outside or on the computer...we do both love to watch Sponge Bob together...you know, father and son bonding time
| 869 |
albusteve Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:37:44am |
re: #846 yma o hyd
I totally sympathise!
Unless one's an Inuit, snow is totally useless.
Ok, its nice for children to build snowpeople - but otherwise ... naahh!
snowfall in southern CO is our lifeblood in NM...the ancient valley of the Rio Grande depends on it to water the children
| 870 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:37:55am |
| 871 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:37:56am |
re: #838 topazpilot
Don't know how many here know about Noggin, but I'm sure those with young children know well the childrens cable channel. Lately I've noticed that they have quick education breaks explaining, with cute cartoon characters, all about the great President Barack Obama. My son is four so we've been watching the channel off and on for the last three years and I never witnessed anything teaching the kids about President George W. Bush and I'm sure they never had anything before that about him either.
It asks you to visit parents.nickjr.com and see more about this historic event and includes a link for finding kid and family friendly activities, restaurants and hotels in the nation's capital for the "historic inaugural year."
Welcome to the brainwashing of our children. Thank the heavens that my son stated recently, "Barack Obama is not my friend."
As soon as they figure out how to implant speakers with CNN into the womb they will stop abortion.
/
| 872 |
opnion Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:38:23am |
re: #845 Afrocity
Morning Lizards,
I was just watching FOX news and it sure looks like the DNC wants Jindal to run. Their operatives continuously say it during interviews. They want Jindal to run so he can lose. We need to do a Trojan horse on this one.
Uh huh, they wanted to run against McCain & got it.
The MSM will help the Dems in their quest to get a weak opponent that they can beat.
The Republicans should shut down the open primaries & nominate Mitt.
| 875 |
Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:39:27am |
re: #855 Golem Akbar
If he does adopt Bush policies, then I would be okay with that. As much as I'd like to see a Republican as POTUS, I still want the US to be okay. I'll take Obama stealing the Bush Doctrine as a sign of success.
That's because you are sane.
| 876 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:39:41am |
re: #868 Iron Fist
All I have to say to that is,
OUCH!
Why do people pierce those parts of their anatomy!?!
| 877 |
Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:39:48am |
| 878 |
Golem Akbar Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:40:07am |
re: #815 Honorary Yooper
Don't go all baroque on us.
Man, it's stuff like that makes me all rococo in the head.
| 879 |
yma o hyd Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:40:34am |
re: #865 MandyManners
And, snow days are fun...FOR THE CHILDREN.
Yeah - not so much for grown-ups who have to shovel it, or have to dig out the car/house/pet ...
But, tbh, I do enjoy watching children having fun in snow!
| 881 |
Ben Hur Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:40:41am |
re: #843 MandyManners
For some reason, I have images of cod pieces in my mind.
I actually thought you meant fish.
It's Monday.
| 882 |
DaddyG Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:40:55am |
re: #105 redc1c4
this website is gonna be the death of my nascent college career...
Include Not Safe for Work Warnings Please!
| 883 |
Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:41:09am |
| 884 |
Lincolntf Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:41:29am |
re: #857 Ben Hur
So much for the world becoming a more peaceful place in the Age of Obama.
| 886 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:41:53am |
re: #857 Ben Hur
Britons flee French island of Guadeloupe as rioters turn on white families
End the Brutal Occupation of Guadeloupe!
A well-traveled friend of mine claims that the neighboring island of Martinique has the most beautiful women in the world. So a northward-streaming refugee "crisis" may not be such a bad thing.
| 887 |
yma o hyd Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:42:23am |
re: #866 Leonidas Hoplite
It's not useless if you like to ski.
Tried skiing once ... fell one me backside, twisted my ankle something ferocious, and found out that snow is not just cold - its also wet.
I'd rather battle against horizontal rain, coming at 100 mph ...
| 888 |
Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:42:29am |
re: #883 Ford_Prefect
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to repress you.
nis: Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.
| 889 |
Ben Hur Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:42:48am |
| 891 |
MandyManners Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:43:06am |
| 892 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:43:08am |
re: #874 taxfreekiller
The "hunt for
thebottoms" Barney Franks idea of commerce.
It made me think of the version "corrected" above.
Brain bleach!
| 895 |
Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:46:10am |
re: #883 Ford_Prefect
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to repress you.
nis: Come and see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
King Arthur: Bloody peasant!
Dennis: Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, Didn't you?
| 896 |
Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:46:22am |
re: #888 Dustyvet
nis: Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.
Shut up! Shut up! I order you to shut up!
| 898 |
Dustyvet Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:47:02am |
re: #896 Ford_Prefect
Shut up! Shut up! I order you to shut up!
nis: Come and see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
King Arthur: Bloody peasant!
Dennis: Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, Didn't you?
| 899 |
Kenneth Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:48:34am |
If this isn't truly annoying, I don't know what is...
| 900 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:48:56am |
re: #886 Occasional Reader
A well-traveled friend of mine claims that the neighboring island of Martinique has the most beautiful women in the world. So a northward-streaming refugee "crisis" may not be such a bad thing.
I thought I read somewhere last week that Martinique is having the same problems.
| 901 |
Afrocity Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:52:45am |
re: #872 opnion
Uh huh, they wanted to run against McCain & got it.
The MSM will help the Dems in their quest to get a weak opponent that they can beat.
The Republicans should shut down the open primaries & nominate Mitt.
I am with you on everything but that last bit. I am not a Mitt fan.
| 902 |
lobo91 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:53:06am |
re: #872 opnion
Uh huh, they wanted to run against McCain & got it.
The MSM will help the Dems in their quest to get a weak opponent that they can beat.
The Republicans should shut down the open primaries & nominate Mitt.
I'm not completely convinced about the Mitt part, but we definitely need to end the open primaries.
| 903 |
lobo91 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:53:38am |
| 904 |
DaddyG Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:55:26am |
re: #897 Kenneth
POverheard in the control room: "The package is delivered. Repeat, the package is delivered."
/So Mandy why did you have that particular photo bookmarked?
| 906 |
lobo91 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:57:09am |
re: #862 Leonidas Hoplite
Yes, that brainwashing is evident in my son's elementary school. It's pathetic. No wonder our public schools deliver such mediocre results.
On the contrary, our public schools deliver outstanding results.
The problem is that you clearly don't understand what their intended results were.
| 907 |
redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:58:35am |
re: #842 VegasRick
OT, But GREAT news![Link: www.foxnews.com...]
You must be fucking kidding me! The gaffer is in charge of saving the economy? This is not amateur hour, this is stupid on steroids!
the lost, leading the blind, on a plan designed by fools, for idiots.
| 908 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:58:41am |
re: #906 lobo91
On the contrary, our public schools deliver outstanding results.
The problem is that you clearly don't understand what their intended results were.
I see the video sequence from The Wall with the kids going through the meat grinder.
"We don't need no thought control"
| 909 |
redc1c4 Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:59:50am |
re: #882 DaddyG
Include Not Safe for Work Warnings Please!
sorry: that one is WS, or it should be, but the whole area mostly isn't. on the LNDT, it's usually not an issue... no harm intended
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