During Financial Crisis, Obama Sends $1B to Gaza

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While the United States is in the midst of a serious financial crisis, the Obama administration is handing over another $1 billion to the Hamas-riddled United Nations Relief and Works Agency. It will be used for humanitarian purposes, of course, so that the Hamas “government” can spend all their money on bombs, weapons, and ammunition, instead of building a decent society for their children.

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1 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:17:07pm

Un.

Fkn.

Real.

2 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:17:13pm

Unthinkably perverse and stupid. Words fail me.

3 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:17:34pm

You might as well just piss down a rat hole

4 Russkilitlover  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:17:50pm

Ungh! What a crappy way to end an otherwise nice work day.

5 rabidsquirrel  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:18:30pm

Let's give them a state!

/sarc

6 jaunte  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:18:57pm

On the O: I've been torn between 'stupid' and 'deliberate wrecking' for a few days, but I think it's the latter.

7 pink freud  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:19:30pm

The political winds have shifted in an ugly direction.

8 tsionguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:19:42pm

Let's give them two states!

9 itellu3times  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:19:49pm

Dang new thread, just when I posted on the last one, to wit:

Gaza is shovel-ready!

Build some new tunnels, doncha know. Shovel, shovel, shovel.

Halliburton!

10 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:20:06pm

Maybe he's just bewitched by Samantha...

/

11 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:20:17pm
12 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:20:34pm

Obamian Whore of the Caliphate!
What's in that video the LA Times has?!

13 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:20:37pm

re: #7 pink freud

The political winds have shifted in an ugly direction.

Defense establishment fears US may cut military aid

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

You can say that again.

14 itellu3times  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:20:38pm

re: #10 Thanos

Maybe he's just bewitched by Samantha...

/

Too much unicorn horn in his oatmeal ...

15 grahamski  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:20:39pm

This fool is spending like a drunken sailor!....
My apologies to drunken sailors.

16 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:20:53pm

re: #10 Thanos

Maybe he's just bewitched by Samantha...

/

LOL ...Good one Thanos ...

17 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:20:59pm

re: #11 buzzsawmonkey

Aw, c'mon, folks--when you think of the 870-odd billion that the Porkulus contains, what's a mere billion to genocidal maniacs?

Yes -- especially when it's in the name of "restoring America's image in the world."

/*retch*

18 nyc redneck  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:20:59pm

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
that's our money.
did he say he was going to spread our wealth around to barbarians like this?
unfckingbelievable .

19 Opinionated  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:21:07pm

Obama to do list.

Save the banks.
Save the auto companies.
Save the genocidal Islamic murderers who target Israel.

Or at least one out of three.

20 stuiec  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:21:23pm

I am sure that Hamas is thinking: Why build a society for a generation of children that are only going to be used as human shields, human bombs, or tunnel rats?

21 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:21:24pm
22 jorline  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:21:28pm
The money, which needs U.S. congressional approval, will be distributed through U.N. and other bodies and not via the militant group Hamas, which rules Gaza, said one official.

It has to be approved...make yourself heard loud and clear now or STFU.

23 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:21:53pm

Hope. Change. Ruin our economy.

24 shane  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:22:07pm

Well how are they going to make qassam rockets? I mean Egypt stopped the cash at the border, how are things going to get worse if we don't ship them cash?

25 MJBrutus  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:22:28pm

Disgusting beyond words. Something tells me we're going to become used to these outrages. They're going to be happening on a daily basis from this asshat in chief. Give us another lecture on "fiscal responsibility" now, why doncha?

26 Caliredst8r  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:22:50pm

Well, he's asked the DoD to cut their budget, so why not give some of that money to the Pali's?

/

27 ladycatnip  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:22:52pm

Can we recall a president?

28 Pupdawg  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:22:54pm

...they evidently need more community organizers or else Obama is providing a little payback for all the help he got from supporters in that area during his campaign.

We are in deep poop with more headed our way.

29 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:23:10pm

Is this going to affect my unicorn delivery? If so, then I am completely against it!

30 tsionguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:23:15pm

I hereby declare UNWRA a terrorist organization. That should do the trick.

31 itellu3times  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:23:30pm

re: #27 ladycatnip

Can we recall a president?

You can call him, but will he come?

32 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:23:37pm

A US congressman plans to brief fellow members of Congress and the Obama administration about his recent trip to Gaza, saying the US should pressure Israel regarding border closures and reassess its military support for the Jewish state.


US Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., left and US Rep. Brian Baird, D-Wash., right, take photos of the rubble of the American International school in Beit Lahiya in the northern Gaza Strip, Thursday.
Photo: AP
SLIDESHOW: Pictures of the week
Rep. Brian Baird, a Democrat from Washington state, visited Gaza last week with fellow Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

All my Liberal Jewish Friends and Family...Can you feel the love yet?

33 UberInfidel67  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:23:46pm

A shirt for all NSFW:

Image: Fuckmetshirt.jpg

34 jorline  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:23:48pm

*self deleted*

I'm so pissed right now...later lizards.

35 Opinionated  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:23:49pm

When Joe the plumber said Obama would spread the wealth,
I was hoping Obamawould limit it to ACORN and other "domestic" terrorists only.

36 grahamski  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:24:03pm

re: #21 buzzsawmonkey

Drunken sailors at least get a cheap high and a case of clap to show for their expenditures.

Xactly...
And what do we get for his folly, the shity end of the stick.

37 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:24:08pm
38 kansas  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:24:18pm

Well that's what you get when you elect a president who is trying to ruin the country. Even Chris Matthews was pissed today. I wanted someone to ask if his fucking leg was tingling now.

39 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:24:20pm

And to think I tried to suggest that any money going to the Paliterrorists be subject to claims from Israel for compensation for terrorism.
Of course, I suggested this to Assad-kissing Kerry, and Kennedy, and to my representative Tsongas. (I think had Ogonowski won, he would have listened. Besides, I had met his campaign finance person at Chabad.)

I did get replies from Tsongas and Kennedy. Kerry is too busy kissing assad to reply. Both replies were pretty standard, probably written to satisfy anyone who wrote, but they did not at all address what I was saying.

40 Last Mohican  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:24:41pm
It will be used for humanitarian purposes, of course, so that the Hamas “government” can spend all their money on bombs, weapons, and ammunition, instead of building a decent society for their children.

Charles, I think you misjudge and underestimate Hamas.

They're not going to use the billion dollars for humanitarian purposes, so that they can spend their own money on bombs. They're going to spend their own money on bombs, and then spend the billion dollars on more bombs.

41 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:24:51pm

re: #21 buzzsawmonkey

Drunken sailors at least get a cheap high and a case of clap to show for their expenditures.

Were you ever in the Suzy Wong Bar in Wanchai?
How 'bout Pauline's in Olongapo?
/heh ... you sound like the voice of experience

42 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:25:04pm

I hope I don't get banned for this, but it needs to be said. Considering the recent Durban-II rumblings and now this, I have to wonder if the Jewish advisors around Obama are either the "self hating" variety, or they are the equivalent of "kapos" on some subconscious level.

Sorry in advance if this is offensive to anyone ...

43 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:25:10pm

"0"
that's what he is.............
and he is destroying America.....
and he's a liar.......
and he's a socialist......

Where the FU*K is the dog for the kids?
Something fishy there.

44 holycrusader  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:25:17pm

Well, that should be stimulating!

"The official said the pledge was a mix of money already earmarked for the Palestinians and some new funding.

In December, the former Bush administration said it would give $85 million to the U.N. agency"

What's another 815 million between friends eh?

45 ladycatnip  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:25:26pm

I demand this narcissistic manipulator be held accountable for this. I refuse to pay one dime of my hard-earned tax money to Hamas.

46 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:26:04pm

re: #42 _RememberTonyC

I hope I don't get banned for this, but it needs to be said. Considering the recent Durban-II rumblings and now this, I have to wonder if the Jewish advisors around Obama are either the "self hating" variety, or they are the equivalent of "kapos" on some subconscious level.

Sorry in advance if this is offensive to anyone ...

They are just Liberal Jews, but I understand how you'd be confused.

47 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:26:28pm

re: #7 pink freud

The political winds have shifted in an ugly direction.

Yeah, well ...we kinda already knew which way Obama would blow ...and where exactly is that LA Times Tape? ...

48 jorline  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:26:36pm

When is the American public going to say no more spend-for-all?

Later

49 jcm  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:26:48pm

Buy a heck of a lot of GRADs with that kinda money.

50 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:26:50pm

re: #22 jorline

It has to be approved...make yourself heard loud and clear now or STFU.

OK. Maybe this is a time to rewrite what I sent last time, and say we shouldn't give them any money, but if we're going to, we should not pay for terrorist activities, so Israel can make damage claims off the top.

How long before I'm put on Kerry, Kennedy, and Tsongas' spam lists?

51 Nutmeg  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:26:51pm

Add this to the list of things to address at your next local Tea Party. I cannot imagine that Gaza is "shovel ready."

52 code red 21  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:27:13pm

When is this shit gonna stop? We will not survive four more years of this nonsense. Using our tax dollars to fund the terrorists and making sure that we will never have another fair election by giving billions to ACORN. We are so f'd.

53 Wendya  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:27:36pm

Can we impeach yet?

Not that we actually have the votes.... or any GOP members with a spine....

54 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:27:37pm

re: #47 JacksonTn

Yeah, well ...we kinda already knew which way Obama would blow ...and where exactly is that LA Times Tape? ...

Those ashes are surely blown in the wind

55 tsionguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:27:54pm

It's time for an American Tea Party, with Rick Santelli as host of honor.

56 dudewithaphone  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:27:56pm

Is it just me, or have the past few posts, barring Roddick's being a man and all, been particularly depressing? Obama's turning out to be ridiculously soft, and this whole new age left wing hippy-ism has already had such an impact. Not being an American, I didn't really get into the election too much, but McCain's age and Palin's je ne sais quoi (everything? Yeah, pretty much everything about her) ended up turning me off of them, so Obama seemed like the only reasonable choice. Oh, how mistaken I was.
I'm glad there's some people out there who don't have that starry eyed youthful innocence most of the Obama voters seem to have. Good on you, lizards.

57 Elcid  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:27:59pm

re: #45 ladycatnip

I demand this narcissistic manipulator be held accountable for this. I refuse to pay one dime of my hard-earned tax money to Hamas.

Me too...But the 56 million or whatever the hell number it was that elected him, think the same way he does.

58 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:28:05pm

re: #53 Wendya

Can we impeach yet?

Not that we actually have the votes.... or any GOP members with a spine....

Yeah, Specter, we're looking at you!

59 midwestgak  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:28:11pm

Our leader Obama is only following Saudi Arabia's lead

What's the harm?/ So what if Obama follows rather than leads?/

MOSCOW, January 19 (RIA Novosti) - Saudi Arabia will donate $1 billion to rebuild the Gaza Strip after Israel's military operations in the enclave over the last three weeks, the country's king announced at a summit on Monday.

60 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:28:13pm
61 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:28:40pm

When I think of Rudy I think what might have been.

62 Last Mohican  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:28:56pm

So Obama's going to cut funding for the war on terrorism, and redirect our money to... terrorism.

63 Tamron  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:28:57pm

I say, let's give Hamas Amchitka Island, out in the Aleutian Chain. That's where we did some underground nuclear testing approx. 30 years ago.

Then they can dig as many tunnels as they want.

Heh.
.

64 code red 21  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:29:23pm

re: #15 grahamski

This fool is spending like a drunken sailor!....
My apologies to drunken sailors.

or you could say they're spending money like a pimp with a week to live.

65 jcm  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:29:28pm

re: #60 Iron Fist

NSFW? What the fuck's wrong with the fucking shirt? I thought its message was fuckin' loud and clear about all the motherfuckers in the fuckin' Givernment..

From where I sit it's the Takernment.

66 Teacake!  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:29:42pm

Is 1 billion 100 million? Just wondering if a billion were split up here in new orleans with less than a million peeps....

67 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:29:45pm

re: #46 Nevergiveup

Liberal Jews I can handle (I married one), but this type of depravity and stupidity is something many "garden variety" Liberal Jews will even have a problem with. This is way beyond what a typical liberal Jew would support, but unless they know about it, they'll just blindly vote "D." So it is up to the other party to start calling it straight and convince Jews that they are voting for the wrong party if this is what it has become.

68 sevoguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:29:50pm

I never thought I would say this, but:

THE UNITED STATES SHOULD GO BANKRUPT so these kinds of things stop. OBAMA----read my lips.........These people are the enemy. We should be drinking there oil and blowing each other up for whatever they do for THEIR GOD.

We are still giving money away like it's free..................Bankruptcy would sure put an end to this.

69 Silhouette  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:29:58pm

OT- The media isn't even trying to hide their messiah worship of Obama.

Yet another "halo" picture and I think the most blatant yet.

70 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:30:15pm

re: #53 Wendya

Impeachment is only for crimes. Not because you don't like somebody.

71 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:30:20pm

re: #66 Teacake!

Is 1 billion 100 million? Just wondering if a billion were split up here in new orleans with less than a million peeps....

1,000 million.

72 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:30:21pm

re: #59 midwestgak

Our leader Obama is only following Saudi Arabia's lead

What's the harm?/ So what if Obama follows rather than leads?/

MOSCOW, January 19 (RIA Novosti) - Saudi Arabia will donate $1 billion to rebuild the Gaza Strip after Israel's military operations in the enclave over the last three weeks, the country's king announced at a summit on Monday.

Sure go ahead spend billions to rebuild Gaza, then Israel can just blow it op again. And the wheels on the bus go round and round round and round, and the wheels......

73 athos  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:30:22pm

re: #40 Last Mohican

Charles, I think you misjudge and underestimate Hamas.

They're not going to use the billion dollars for humanitarian purposes, so that they can spend their own money on bombs. They're going to spend their own money on bombs, and then spend the billion dollars on more bombs.

Now, now, don't be so cynical. They aren't going to spend all of Obama's $1B on more bombs.....at least half of it will be going to their swiss bank account 'retirement' funds as well as those of Dinnerjacket and the Mad Mullah's in Qom.

Now, Al Sharpton would probably find a way to claim that this is racist, but it really does seem as if Obama believes that money grows on trees.

74 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:30:42pm

re: #59 midwestgak

Our leader Obama is only following Saudi Arabia's lead

What's the harm?/ So what if Obama follows rather than leads?/

MOSCOW, January 19 (RIA Novosti) - Saudi Arabia will donate $1 billion to rebuild the Gaza Strip after Israel's military operations in the enclave over the last three weeks, the country's king announced at a summit on Monday.

I'll remember that every time I go to the gas station.
(I already get around 33 MPG, not going to do that much better)

75 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:30:49pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Impeachment is only for crimes. Not because you don't like somebody.

Yeah, that's what wedgies are for.

76 Wendya  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:31:26pm

re: #58 Wyatt Earp

Yeah, Specter, we're looking at you!

I suspect Specter is going to receive his comeuppance.

Then Obama can offer him a cabinet position.

77 Elcid  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:31:41pm

re: #69 Silhouette

OT- The media isn't even trying to hide their messiah worship of Obama.

Yet another "halo" picture and I think the most blatant yet.

Why, it's Saint Barack of Illinois

78 wiffersnapper  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:31:47pm

They need more powdered milk already?

79 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:31:50pm

re: #67 _RememberTonyC

Liberal Jews I can handle (I married one), but this type of depravity and stupidity is something many "garden variety" Liberal Jews will even have a problem with. This is way beyond what a typical liberal Jew would support, but unless they know about it, they'll just blindly vote "D." So it is up to the other party to start calling it straight and convince Jews that they are voting for the wrong party if this is what it has become.

I wish you were right, but most of my family are liberal and Jewish and they still don't get it. They think I'm the weird one.

80 kansas  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:31:50pm

re: #66 Teacake!

Is 1 billion 100 million? Just wondering if a billion were split up here in new orleans with less than a million peeps....

1 billion is 1 more than 999,999,999 which is 999 million 999 thousand 999.

81 athos  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:12pm

re: #62 Last Mohican

So Obama's going to cut funding for the war on terrorism, and redirect our money to... terrorismts.

One minor correction, otherwise excellent observation.

82 Silhouette  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:15pm

How does this "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?"

83 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:18pm

Obama. Worst. President. Ever.

84 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:19pm

re: #68 sevoguy

I never thought I would say this, but:

THE UNITED STATES SHOULD GO BANKRUPT so these kinds of things stop. OBAMA----read my lips.........These people are the enemy. We should be drinking there oil and blowing each other up for whatever they do for THEIR GOD.

We are still giving money away like it's free..................Bankruptcy would sure put an end to this.

The US can't go bankrupt. It just prints more money.
We can go bankrupt, and this administration is MORALLY bankrupt, but that is something else.

85 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:23pm

re: #76 Wendya

I suspect Specter is going to receive his comeuppance.

Then Obama can offer him a cabinet position.

This is the state that keeps re-electing Murtha. Specter is senator for life. I know, I live here.

86 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:27pm

Best news I've had tonight Charles. Thanks(you know).

87 tsionguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:32pm

re: #74 Kosh's Shadow

That is precisely the reason I bought a Prius. When Israel comes out with its electric car, I'll buy that.

88 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:53pm

re: #42 _RememberTonyC

I hope I don't get banned for this, but it needs to be said. Considering the recent Durban-II rumblings and now this, I have to wonder if the Jewish advisors around Obama are either the "self hating" variety, or they are the equivalent of "kapos" on some subconscious level.

Sorry in advance if this is offensive to anyone ...

I'm not offended by you. I'm offended by Obama and this assinie giveaway of his.

89 Teacake!  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:53pm

Thanks wyatt! LOL I'm terrible at math, I've never even been a thousandaire.

90 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:58pm
91 Tamron  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:32:59pm

re: #41 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Were you ever in the Suzy Wong Bar in Wanchai?
How 'bout Pauline's in Olongapo?


We preferred Mom's Club in Olongapo. High class (!)
.

92 athos  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:33:16pm

re: #83 Kenneth

Obama. Worst. President. Ever.

And in less than 2 months in office. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!

93 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:33:31pm

re: #83 Kenneth

Obama. Worst. President. Ever.

He has surpassed Carter in a month.

94 MJBrutus  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:33:31pm

re: #79 Nevergiveup

I wish you were right, but most of my family are liberal and Jewish and they still don't get it. They think I'm the weird one.

Same here. It bothers me no end.

95 tsionguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:33:38pm

re: #86 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I guess you support Hamas?

96 addison  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:33:40pm

I am less impressed by this administration with each passing day.

97 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:33:42pm

re: #66 Teacake!

1 billion is 1000 million. That is $1,000,000,000

98 jaunte  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:33:53pm

re: #69 Silhouette

OT- The media isn't even trying to hide their messiah worship of Obama.

Yet another "halo" picture and I think the most blatant yet.

Here's the Archangel Gabriel for comparison:
Image: icon32.JPG

99 kansas  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:34:10pm

re: #83 Kenneth

Obama. Worst. President. Ever.

Still with big approval rating. Who the hell are they asking?

100 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:34:15pm

re: #92 athos

And in less than 2 months in office. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!

A month as 3 days, but who's counting?

101 calcajun  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:34:33pm

You do recall that a lot of scrap metal sold to Japan in the 20's and 30's came back to us in some unpleasant forms. We can only hope that the "dividend' we earn on this "investment" is not equally nasty.

103 tsionguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:34:47pm

re: #97 Kenneth

Or a million million in the UK.

104 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:34:50pm

re: #87 tsionguy

That is precisely the reason I bought a Prius. When Israel comes out with its electric car, I'll buy that.

Most of my driving is at highway speeds; a conventional car is just as good.
Your driving may vary. Besides I think my 10 year old Honda Civic still has some life in it.

105 Pupdawg  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:34:51pm

How is that 'deficit slashing' working out for you President Obama?

106 Desert Dog  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:34:57pm

I am sure that he will stuff the $1 Billion into a "We're Sorry" card from Hallmark.

107 UberInfidel67  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:35:11pm

re: #60 Iron Fist

Ya' know? Ya gotta fucking point there. Thanks for fucking clearing that right the fuck up for me : )

108 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:35:37pm

re: #82 Silhouette

How does this "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?"

His fingers were crossed when he flubbed the oath.

109 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:35:43pm

re: #99 kansas

Still with big approval rating. Who the hell are they asking?

They are polling the bums that look to "gubmint" to take care of them.
And "0" is handing out fishes.............

110 Wendya  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:35:48pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Impeachment is only for crimes. Not because you don't like somebody.

Impeachment is a political process. It's not for civil crimes. It's designed to preserve the integrity of the office.

Do they teach civics anymore?

111 Teacake!  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:35:54pm

Also, don't have the link for this since the info was brought to me by eBay, but congress is at last trying to push for internet sales tax.

112 solomonpanting  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:36:00pm
The March 2 donors conference in Sharm el-Sheikh resort aims to raise humanitarian and rebuilding funds for Gaza...

"Ah, you don't believe
We're on the eve of construction"

...NOT...

113 code red 21  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:36:04pm

re: #79 Nevergiveup

I wish you were right, but most of my family are liberal and Jewish and they still don't get it. They think I'm the weird one.

You must be terribly frustrated with your family. You have my sympathy.

114 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:36:11pm

re: #101 calcajun

You do recall that a lot of scrap metal sold to Japan in the 20's and 30's came back to us in some unpleasant forms. We can only hope that the "dividend' we earn on this "investment" is not equally nasty.

And China has been buying up every bit of scrap metal for the last 5 years..........she'll be right, its for cars and steel for buildings.

115 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:36:14pm

re: #99 kansas

Not us. That's for damn sure.

116 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:36:30pm

re: #75 Wyatt Earp

Yeah, that's what wedgies are for.

Now KT needs to get with the Dems about that bit of wisdom.

117 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:36:41pm

self employed folks and small business owners can take a stand...is it wrong to deny your money to the feds under these circumstances?...we are being legally hosed...BO will drive me to the poorhouse...it's immoral to do that to me...I refuse...he has no ethical right to take my money and give it to a terrorists organization on the other side of the world...and he is killing my friend Israel...fuck the feds...I hate them

118 Bob Dillon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:36:51pm

re: #22 jorline

It has to be approved...make yourself heard loud and clear now or STFU.

[Link: www.visi.com...]

119 Ruebacca  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:37:02pm

Obama is in the pay of the gulf Arabs, just like the Clinton's. Obama will get this money back in the form of his Presidential Library. We will have 2 Democrats in a row having their libraries built by Dubai.

120 jcm  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:37:07pm

re: #66 Teacake!

Is 1 billion 100 million? Just wondering if a billion were split up here in new orleans with less than a million peeps....

$1 (x10 = next line)
$10
$100
$1,000
$10,000
$100,000
$1,000,000 (million) (x1000 = next line)
$1,000,000,000 (billion)
$1,000,000,000,000 (trillion)

121 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:37:10pm

re: #113 code red 21

You must be terribly frustrated with your family. You have my sympathy.

I hardly speak to some of them. But I got back at them. I joined the Navy.

122 Last Mohican  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:37:16pm

re: #111 Teacake!

Also, don't have the link for this since the info was brought to me by eBay, but congress is at last trying to push for internet sales tax.

Oh good. I was upset that my every purchase on amazon.com wasn't being used to fund Hamas terrorists.

123 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:37:21pm

re: #114 A Kiwi Infidel

And China has been buying up every bit of scrap metal for the last 5 years..........she'll be right, its for cars and steel for buildings.

You should see the number of buildings there under construction. It was mind-boggling.

124 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:37:44pm

re: #27 ladycatnip

Can we recall a president?

No, only impeachment or resignation.

125 Pygmalienation  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:37:44pm

I detest the idea that 1 red cent of the tax money they take from me would enable the continued existence of HAMAS.
/steaming mad at YET another slap to my sensibilities from this administration!

126 kansas  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:37:55pm

re: #119 Ruebacca

Obama is in the pay of the gulf Arabs, just like the Clinton's. Obama will get this money back in the form of his Presidential Library. We will have 2 Democrats in a row having their libraries built by Dubai.

He'll probably build his in Dubai, or Kenya............Who said that?

127 HillJack  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:37:59pm

This is unbelievable! This country is in deep sh*t and I am not talking about the recession!

128 notutopia  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:38:01pm

Let's just keep printing more fiat money...
Let's keep sending Hillary to China as our
"Bonds woman", to borrow more money...
Let's just abandon corporate America and capitalism...
Let's just throw our hard earned US dollars to the stinking UN so they can promote and aid terrorists...

129 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:38:15pm

re: #79 Nevergiveup

I wish you were right, but most of my family are liberal and Jewish and they still don't get it. They think I'm the weird one.


Then your nic is perfect and so is the avatar "Never give up, never, never, never, never give up"

130 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:38:35pm

re: #120 jcm

$1 (x10 = next line)
$10
$100
$1,000
$10,000
$100,000
$1,000,000 (million) (x1000 = next line)
$1,000,000,000 (billion)
$1,000,000,000,000 (trillion)


Where does "gazillion" come in?

131 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:38:51pm

I would comment on this story, but I seem to be at a loss for words. I am terrified of the next four years. Terrified.

132 Teacake!  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:38:53pm

Hopefully hamas will fuck up and try something that Israel will have no other options than to wipe them off the map for a change

133 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:39:07pm

re: #110 Wendya

Do they teach civics anymore?

You tell me.
Impeachment

In the United States, impeachment can occur both at the federal and state level. The Constitution defines impeachment at the federal level and limits impeachment to "The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" who may only be impeached and removed for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors

Any other questions about civics I can answer for you?

134 jaunte  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:39:30pm

re: #130 Wyatt Earp

Where does "gazillion" come in?

Next week, when O announces another stimulus.

135 BlueCanuck  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:39:33pm

re: #15 grahamski

This fool is spending like a drunken sailor!....
My apologies to drunken sailors.

Nope, he isn't. A drunken sailor can only spend what he has in his pocket. The One™ is spending more then he can really afford.

136 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:39:33pm

re: #119 Ruebacca

Obama is in the pay of the gulf Arabs, just like the Clinton's. Obama will get this money back in the form of his Presidential Library. We will have 2 Democrats in a row having their libraries built by Dubai.

If Dubai builds the libraries, will they let Jews in? Israeli tennis players?

137 Sheepdogess  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:39:44pm

Nothing Obama does surprises me.
He is an evil man.

Remember this article written in 1968?

[Link: www.netanyahu.org...]

The last paragraph....

The Jews are alone in the world. If Israel survives, it will be solely because of Jewish efforts. And Jewish resources. Yet at this moment Israel is our only reliable and unconditional ally. We can rely more on Israel than Israel can rely on us. And one has only to imagine what would have happened last summer had the Arabs and their Russian backers won the war to realize how vital the survival of Israel is to America and the West in general.

I have a premonition that will not leave me; as it goes with Israel so will it go with all of us. Should Israel perish the holocaust will be upon us.

Hunker down lizards. It's coming.

138 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:39:46pm

Sean Penn in talks for 'Fair Game'
"Fair Game," the drama about the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson

[Link: www.variety.com...]

Maybe it's only me but I think Sean Penn is prettier than Valerie Plame?

139 kansas  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:39:58pm

Gotta to go to bed. Dow opens below 7 tomorrow, 6 by Friday 5 by next week? How low will it go?

140 code red 21  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:40:06pm

re: #121 Nevergiveup

You made me spew water all over my keyboard. LOL

141 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:40:09pm

There are no grounds to impeach Barack Obama. Let's not start sounding like the moonbats who wanted to impeach Bush without cause. Please?

142 midwestgak  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:40:13pm

re: #97 Kenneth

1 billion is 1000 million. That is $1,000,000,000

With Saudi Arabia's $1B added to the mix, it comes to . . . See #59

143 Opinionated  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:40:24pm

On Nov 4th, 2008 the DOW closed at 9,625.28

Today 7,114.78

Imagine the headline if McCain had been elected.

144 Last Mohican  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:40:27pm

Well, look at the bright side.

Sure, Obama is giving Hamas terrorists $900 million. But he's also spending $20 million to resettle lots of them in the United States. If he keeps doing that for a few more years, then he can just pay them with "tax relief" (i.e. welfare payments) instead of foreign aid. Maybe that will be more economical.

145 HillJack  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:40:40pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

I think giving all our money away and driving this country into the depths of a debt never before seen by mankind might be considered treason!

146 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:40:43pm

re: #87 tsionguy

That is precisely the reason I bought a Prius.

You conveniently forgot the part about sending your money to Japan so they could buy oil from the Mullahs in Iran.

147 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:40:58pm

re: #138 Nevergiveup

Sean Penn in talks for 'Fair Game'
"Fair Game," the drama about the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson

[Link: www.variety.com...]

Maybe it's only me but I think Sean Penn is prettier than Valerie Plame?

Groan. Her shelf life is so over. Why the hell do they keep trying to revive her?

148 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:41:00pm

re: #131 CapeCoddah

I would comment on this story, but I seem to be at a loss for words. I am terrified of the next four years. Terrified.

you have reason to be...they are taking your money for their own personal causes...it's your money, they work for us, and we should not sit passively and let them do it...there is a higher principle and this govt is corrupt

149 Silhouette  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:41:21pm

How many children will be blown up with ammunition we buy?

150 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:41:22pm

re: #141 Charles

I noticed when I went to google "Impeach" the google auto-complete already has results for "Impeach Obama".

151 nyc redneck  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:41:49pm

it is just so unacceptable that this fear mongering charlatan is going to syphon off a billion dollars ( from money that should help america) and give it to these relentless barbarians who 24/7 want to kill, kill, kill. and teach this to their children.
you don't change these losers by subsidizing their rage fueled antics.

152 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:41:54pm

re: #147 gclaghorn

Groan. Her shelf life is so over. Why the hell do they keep trying to revive her?

They need grist for the Bush administration show trial mill.

153 Teacake!  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:41:57pm

And that UN global poverty tax will no doubt be shoved on us and all we will do is sigh and comment to each other. We are that screwed. Trapped. This government will do as they please regardless.

154 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:42:00pm

Usually, I am a teetotaler. I just poured a large glass of Makers Mark...Bottle is on the table, help yourselves. I am getting drunk.

155 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:42:04pm

re: #145 HillJack

Maybe I'm just not in the mood tonight. Knock off the insanity. The world is crazy enough.

156 jcm  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:42:26pm

re: #130 Wyatt Earp

Where does "gazillion" come in?

That's the bill your grand kids will get when they think they'll be getting their first pay check.

157 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:42:36pm

re: #132 Teacake!

Hopefully hamas will fuck up and try something that Israel will have no other options than to wipe them off the map for a change


I read somewhere that, after the Hudna, between Hummis, hisbollocks and syria there are 6,000 missiles now pointing at Israel. May the Lord have mercy on Israel and may she crush these animals that threaten her existence. They are not interested in peace and O's big hand out will do absolutely nothing for peace but only further embolden the enemies of Israel.

158 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:42:56pm

Another bashing session going on at Hot Air, by the way, in their Wilders thread.

159 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:43:00pm

re: #95 tsionguy

I guess you support Hamas?

Not quite.

160 notutopia  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:43:16pm

re: #154 CapeCoddah

Usually, I am a teetotaler. I just poured a large glass of Makers Mark...Bottle is on the table, help yourselves. I am getting drunk.

2 fingers deep for me please.

161 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:43:18pm

NEW YORK (Reuters) - American Express Co (NYSE:AXP - News), battered by mounting credit card losses, is offering $300 to a limited number of U.S. card holders who pay off their balances and close their accounts, the company said on Monday.

[Link: biz.yahoo.com...]

Anybody here get that offer?

162 Last Mohican  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:43:20pm

re: #145 HillJack

I think giving all our money away and driving this country into the depths of a debt never before seen by mankind might be considered treason!

I don't believe so. According to the Constitution:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies [Hamas, for example], giving them aid and comfort.
163 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:43:25pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

I noticed when I went to google "Impeach" the google auto-complete already has results for "Impeach Obama".

You're right. How many of those results do you want to bet link to nirther sites?

164 hazzyday  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:43:30pm

This is a bribe so make the government drift a certain way there. This is no different than Blagovich.

It's like having your neighbor shooting at you and giving him a timeout so he can go buy more toys for the kids and more ammo for his guns. And you go out an paint a bigger target on your house for him.

Obama's not going to win any grand political games with anyone.

165 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:43:57pm

I'm gonna' start taking pot-shots at the neighbors and have The Kid fix up and fire some missiles from the left-over Roman candles. Maybe we can get a chunk of change from CBBHO.

166 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:44:09pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

I noticed when I went to google "Impeach" the google auto-complete already has results for "Impeach Obama".

Maybe we could set up an agency to police the Internet.

167 DisturbedEma  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:44:17pm

re: #154 CapeCoddah

Usually, I am a teetotaler. I just poured a large glass of Makers Mark...Bottle is on the table, help yourselves. I am getting drunk.

If I were not nursing kids right now. . .this is a rough day to be Jewish. . .and have voted for McCain. . .I am taking no comfort in the fact I was right. . .

Sigh, pass the bottle, I have to warn you, I am probably a sloppy virtual drunk. . .

168 HillJack  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:44:19pm

All I can tell you is the Russian and Chinese SKS is reliable easy to break down, easy to clean and is still fairly cheap. I'm just saying.

169 pat  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:44:49pm

Because Obama couldn't think of a single use for the money in America.

170 Pupdawg  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:44:51pm

re: #26 Caliredst8r

Well, he's asked the DoD to cut their budget, so why not give some of that money to the Pali's?

/

Also, Barney Frank is asking for a 25% cut in our military budget.

If you need a template of what is and will be happening now with budget cuts in our military, intelligence community and FBI look back at the Carter years and it'll be deja vu all over again...except even worse.

171 descolada9  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:44:59pm

I wonder how many of my tax dollars will go towards killing Israelis? It's amazing that in justa month I've been wanting to cry over one travesty after another wreaked by the "Hope and Change" bastard and his motley crew of sociopaths.

172 solomonpanting  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:45:02pm

I heard this explanation of the "stimulus" bill:

Take a cupful of water from the deep (monied) end of a swimming pool and pour it into the shallow (poor) end.

173 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:45:03pm

Hey we ever catch those Hamas fellows who blow up those American Diplomats in Gaza? Of course not, so lets give em a billion.

174 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:45:10pm

Goddamn idiot asshole moral equivalists. Fucking nutjob utopians. They're gonna get a whole bunch of people killed with this stupidity.
OT, did any of you see Geert Wilders on O'Reilly. Came in the door from work just as the spot was ending.

175 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:46:48pm

Not that everyone didn't already know this but we also send a couple billion dollars every year to Egypt and they respond by promoting the smuggling of weapons into Gaza.

176 Tamron  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:46:50pm

If you started at the time of Christ 2,000 years ago, and spent $1 Million every single day right on up to today, how much would that total up to?
.

177 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:46:51pm

re: #158 Charles
Are they bashing Wilders? Why? Cause he made a movie using real Islamists, doing real islamofascist stuff?

178 Geepers  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:47:01pm

Ya gotta love the "we're not giving it to Hamas" line.

Nope. We're giving it to the UN NRWA so they can give it to Hamas.

Obama's a tricky little devil isn't he?

179 Cygnus  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:47:07pm

re: #3 Nevergiveup

You might as well just piss down a rat into a black hole.

/no racism intended. Just a slight modification.

180 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:47:28pm

Isn't it reasonable to believe that the money will end up going to fund terrorists by allowing them to have money to spend on other things?
Are we even sure that Gaza will be conflict free before we spend this money.

Obama also sent more troops into Afghanistan. Where is the anti-war left now. Although I do hear that Bill Ayers is speaking out against Obama.

181 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:47:39pm

re: #174 pingjockey

Goddamn idiot asshole moral equivalists. Fucking nutjob utopians. They're gonna get a whole bunch of people killed with this stupidity.
OT, did any of you see Geert Wilders on O'Reilly. Came in the door from work just as the spot was ending.

yes this 900 million will certainly cost lives both Palis and Israeli...hurling money at Hamas will not help solve the problem, just the opposite...I question the moral implication...BO is playing with fire

182 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:47:46pm

re: #177 pingjockey

Are they bashing Wilders? Why? Cause he made a movie using real Islamists, doing real islamofascist stuff?

I'm gonna guess they're bashing Charles for not wanting any neoNazi smell on his blog.

183 notutopia  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:47:55pm

re: #174 pingjockey

I think everyone is over at Hotair linking to the comments on Geert. He was on Beck and O'Reilly today.

184 Last Mohican  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:48:06pm

re: #170 Pupdawg

Also, Barney Frank is asking for a 25% cut in our military budget.

Did you just say a 25% cut in the military budget? Now?

I really, really hope you're just making that up and it has no basis in reality.

185 Cygnus  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:48:11pm

re: #10 Thanos

Maybe he's just bewitched by Samantha...

/

Or Voldemort.

186 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:48:17pm

re: #177 pingjockey

Are they bashing Wilders? Why? Cause he made a movie using real Islamists, doing real islamofascist stuff?

No, they're bashing Charles.

187 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:48:18pm

re: #164 hazzyday

This is a bribe so make the government drift a certain way there. This is no different than Blagovich.

It's like having your neighbor shooting at you and giving him a timeout so he can go buy more toys for the kids and more ammo for his guns. And you go out an paint a bigger target on your house for him.

Obama's not going to win any grand political games with anyone.

Oh, that's just too spooky.

188 Wendya  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:48:42pm

re: #117 albusteve

self employed folks and small business owners can take a stand...is it wrong to deny your money to the feds under these circumstances?

Morally? That's going to be up to the individual. I'm still sending my "tribute" every month until all other options are exhausted.

189 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:48:43pm

re: #161 Nevergiveup

NEW YORK (Reuters) - American Express Co (NYSE:AXP - News), battered by mounting credit card losses, is offering $300 to a limited number of U.S. card holders who pay off their balances and close their accounts, the company said on Monday.

[Link: biz.yahoo.com...]

Anybody here get that offer?

Nope, but, then we have not used credit cards in 15+ years. we have the cash, or we don't buy it.

190 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:49:02pm

re: #178 Geepers

Ya gotta love the "we're not giving it to Hamas" line.

Nope. We're giving it to the UN NRWA so they can give it to Hamas.

Obama's a tricky little devil isn't he?

This is the same UN that just recently collected all them unexploded ordinance and let Hamas guard it, and was then shock, shocked I say, that it went missing? I mean you can't make this shit up.

191 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:49:06pm

re: #22 jorline

It has to be approved...make yourself heard loud and clear now or STFU.

Charles, an update?

192 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:49:21pm

re: #183 notutopia
Don't they like Geert? I'm not totally up to speed on Mr. Wilders, but he hasn't gone and joined the neonazis has he?

193 Opinionated  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:49:50pm

News from the parallel universe of the Arab Middle East.

The crown prince of Bahrain said on Monday Britain was too pro-Israel in its outlook,

194 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:49:53pm

Thanks to Allahpundit for the words of support over there. There are a bunch of angry ranters who were banned from LGF, who go nuts every time AP links to LGF.

195 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:50:09pm

Charles wrote:

It will be used for humanitarian purposes, of course, so that the Hamas “government” can spend all their money on bombs, weapons, and ammunition, instead of building a decent society for their children.

That goes straight to the core of the problem. The pro-democracy argument has been that by assuming the responsibility of gov't, Hamas or whoever, would be held accountable to the Palestinian people for schools, hospitals, roads, water etc.

BUT because all that is looked after by UNRWA and paid for by the EU, UN and know the US, the thugs are off the hook. They have no need to provide good government and the people have no cause to hold them accountable. Hamas is free to focus on their core competency: terror.

This financial support to UNRWA guarantees further war. There will be more dead Israelis and more dead Palestinians precisely because of this colossal mistake.

196 solomonpanting  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:50:13pm

re: #176 Tamron

If you started at the time of Christ 2,000 years ago, and spent $1 Million every single day right on up to today, how much would that total up to?
.

$730.285 billion

197 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:50:18pm

re: #186 gclaghorn
Because Charles has no use for neonazis? Fuck the goddamn neonazis.

198 NukeAtomrod  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:50:28pm

A pre-released excerpt from President Obama's radio address for tomorrow:

"My fellow Americans, I was growing bored of obfuscating my nature. So, I've decided to announce that I am pure Evil."

////// Would anyone be surprised?

199 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:50:33pm

re: #158 Charles

Another bashing session going on at Hot Air, by the way, in their Wilders thread.

Wilders was on Glen Beck and Bill O'Reilly tonight. Did you see any of his appearances and if you did, what did you think?

200 HillJack  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:50:41pm

re: #155 Killgore Trout

Sorry. I was trying to show how ridiculous impeachment talk is. It was strictly tongue in cheek. Oh well, not my first epic fail and probably won't be my last.

201 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:50:41pm

re: #154 CapeCoddah

Usually, I am a teetotaler. I just poured a large glass of Makers Mark...Bottle is on the table, help yourselves. I am getting drunk.

Please take this in the spirit in which it's intended but, you might want to drink a few ounces of water for every ounce of Maker's Mark that you drink.

202 nyc redneck  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:50:42pm

it doesn't even make sense to be a responsible person under O.
a cut of what we earn goes to savages because O likes it like that.
socialism is looking really fucked up.
this is why it fails, people get demoralized and disinterested.
who can get behind this?

203 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:51:07pm
204 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:51:24pm

re: #165 MandyManners

I'm gonna' start taking pot-shots at the neighbors and have The Kid fix up and fire some missiles from the left-over Roman candles. Maybe we can get a chunk of change from CBBHO.

Make sure the kid fires only at republicans or Jews./

205 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:51:39pm
206 Last Mohican  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:51:43pm

Just to toss some numbers around, if you throw that billion dollars in to a list of the top recipients of U.S. foreign aid in 2008, here's what you get for your top five:

1. Israel, $2.4 billion
2. Egypt, $1.7 billion
3. Hamas, $1 billion
4. Pakistan, $798 million
5. Jordan, $688 million

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:52:03pm

O' course, Bush offered $85 million for Gaza relief in January.

He did, however, tell them off for not spending their money on the right sorts of things, which I believe is the oral version of the sternly worded letter.

208 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:52:08pm

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

Wilders was on Glen Beck and Bill O'Reilly tonight. Did you see any of his appearances and if you did, what did you think?

I cannot support Geert Wilders any more. He's hooked up with bad people, and I want nothing to do with any of them.

209 rightwinger3  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:52:17pm

re: #194 Charles

Thanks to Allahpundit for the words of support over there. There are a bunch of angry ranters who were banned from LGF, who go nuts every time AP links to LGF.

Why doesn't AP ban them as well? I'm sure they insult him, too.

210 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:52:23pm

re: #204 CapeCoddah

Make sure the kid fires only at republicans or Jews./

Just fire at the people who get up and go to work every day. Same thing.

211 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:52:28pm

re: #166 OldLineTexan

Maybe we could set up an agency to police the Internet.

I hear Al Gore's free.

212 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:52:43pm

re: #200 HillJack

It happens to me all the time. No worries. Cheers!

213 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:53:03pm
214 Cygnus  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:53:13pm

re: #69 Silhouette

OT- The media isn't even trying to hide their messiah worship of Obama.

Yet another "halo" picture and I think the most blatant yet.

Gag. Puke. How long will the Obamagasm go on?

215 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:53:27pm

re: #167 DisturbedEma

How are those beautiful babies Emma? And don't worry about the sloppy drunk thing, I don't drink but once every 5 years or so, so I will probably have you beat there.. This thread did it for me tonight.

216 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:53:41pm

re: #208 Charles
Oh crap. Sorry Charles, I was asking about Wilders. Did he get hooked up with that VB bunch. and their fellow travellers? Damn.

217 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:53:47pm

re: #197 pingjockey

Look at this one from Hot Air:

"Charles Johnson certainly seems to combines the worst traits of Joe McCarthy, Anthony Fremont and a consummate dhimmi."

I'm sorry, but a comparison to Joe McCarthy is no insult. Someone needs to teach these people how to be mean.

McCarthy was bashed to no end by people who accused him of wrongly blacklisting people, when he was proven to be 100% correct after the fact by the Venona project.

218 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:53:53pm

re: #211 MandyManners

I hear Al Gore's free.

?

I heard he charges.

/

Tipper, maybe? Someone with a record of disliking free speech (which includes LOTS of stupid speech, unfortunately).

219 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:53:59pm
220 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:54:04pm

re: #208 Charles

Did you see the interview I linked to last night? I think he's pretty clear that his "American style 1st amendment" will not cover Islam.

221 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:54:24pm

re: #210 Nevergiveup

Just fire at the people who get up and go to work every day. Same thing.

Try to aim for my rump so I leave a pretty corpse.

/

222 Wilderstad  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:54:25pm

re: #69 Silhouette

OT- The media isn't even trying to hide their messiah worship of Obama.

Yet another "halo" picture and I think the most blatant yet.

223 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:55:05pm

re: #215 CapeCoddah

How are those beautiful babies Emma? And don't worry about the sloppy drunk thing, I don't drink but once every 5 years or so, so I will probably have you beat there.. This thread did it for me tonight.

How about a glass of 96 BV Merlot from Napa Valley?

224 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:55:08pm

re: #208 Charles

I cannot support Geert Wilders any more. He's hooked up with bad people, and I want nothing to do with any of them.

Fair enough.

225 Wendya  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:55:33pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Any other questions about civics I can answer for you?

Yes, do you understand the context of high crimes and misdemeanors in politics? Impeachment, good bad or indifferent was designed to remove a politician from office who became a threat to the government or the nation or had It's not a civil process and it's not written to get rid of someone who snatches a snickers bar without paying for it. It was designed to overturn an election based on damage done to the office they hold.

One of the problems with the Clinton impeachment was that it was based on a charge no one gave a shit about. The public knew it was hypocritical to remove Clinton for lying under oath when it's a regular occurrence for politicians.

226 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:55:35pm

I have no objections to Geert coming to America. I'm a little less comfortable with him giving a presentation to congress.

227 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:55:46pm

re: #210 Nevergiveup

Thats what I said, Republicans or Jews!

228 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:55:50pm

re: #220 Killgore Trout

Did you see the interview I linked to last night? I think he's pretty clear that his "American style 1st amendment" will not cover Islam.

Geert has apparently fallen in with a bad crowd on a really poor understanding of how "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is not a great philosophy in the long term.

229 DisturbedEma  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:55:56pm

re: #215 CapeCoddah

How are those beautiful babies Emma? And don't worry about the sloppy drunk thing, I don't drink but once every 5 years or so, so I will probably have you beat there.. This thread did it for me tonight.

They are really doing well- growing so fast, 1 month old already. . .

The Durban thread killed me today- that cold shiver down the spine about the whole deal. . .sheesh!

230 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:56:16pm

re: #204 CapeCoddah

Make sure the kid fires only at republicans or Jews./

Man, I'm gonna' be rich on the Republican angle!

231 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:56:34pm

re: #225 Wendya

Yes, do you understand the context of high crimes and misdemeanors in politics?


Yes, I do understand. Any more questions?

232 nyc redneck  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:57:21pm

O does not like america.

233 DisturbedEma  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:58:01pm

re: #232 nyc redneck

O does not like america. he likes amerika


fixed

234 Last Mohican  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:58:04pm

re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist

O' course, Bush offered $85 million for Gaza relief in January.

And don't think I wouldn't give him a good tongue-lashing for it, too, if he happened to show up in my living room and invite me to voice my opinion.

235 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:58:13pm

re: #232 nyc redneck

O does not like america.

Michelle beat you to that revelation.

/

236 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:58:50pm

re: #232 nyc redneck

O does not like america.

At least Michelle is proud of her country.

/

237 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:59:06pm

re: #223 HoosierHoops

How about a glass of 96 BV Merlot from Napa Valley?

Well, I have already had 2 fingers out of 4 of the whiskey. Thanks, but, mixing does not work out well at all for me!

238 pink freud  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:59:12pm

re: #233 DisturbedEma

O does not like america. he likes amerikkka

fixed again

239 jcm  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:59:42pm

re: #195 Kenneth

Charles wrote:

That goes straight to the core of the problem. The pro-democracy argument has been that by assuming the responsibility of gov't, Hamas or whoever, would be held accountable to the Palestinian people for schools, hospitals, roads, water etc.

BUT because all that is looked after by UNRWA and paid for by the EU, UN and know the US, the thugs are off the hook. They have no need to provide good government and the people have no cause to hold them accountable. Hamas is free to focus on their core competency: terror.

This financial support to UNRWA guarantees further war. There will be more dead Israelis and more dead Palestinians precisely because of this colossal mistake.

Any money going into Gaza props up Hamas. Works with the same with any humanitarian aid going into a Thugocracy.

Humanitarian aid is a short term feel good band aid. The gets starving children off the front page so the UN and bleeding heart liberals can feel can feel good about doing something.

Such aid only lets the regime redirect money into more thugishness. "Well gee whiz if America is going feed those SOB's I can buy more AKs." Gives the thugocracy a breather. It relives the internal tension caused by the humanitarian crisis, taken the burden off the regime. Usually the regime takes credit internally for the aid anyway.

While the patient has a major life threatening infection, we slap a humanitarian bandage on and feel good about it. It's the infection that needs to be treated, not the visible surface wound.

240 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:59:51pm

re: #229 DisturbedEma

They are really doing well- growing so fast, 1 month old already. . .

The Durban thread killed me today- that cold shiver down the spine about the whole deal. . .sheesh!

Me too. I have to think that Obama either does not care about the harm that his actions cause, or he intends the harm. There is no way he could not know at least some of the damage he is doing.

241 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:59:54pm

How much is he cutting on U.S. military in the budget? ...is he taking money from our military and sending it to these horrific terrorists? ...

242 Wendya  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:59:55pm

re: #205 buzzsawmonkey

Furthermore, even if there were grounds, there is absolutely no political possibility that it would happen--and it is a bad idea wholly on its own, as it plays hell with the political process.

Of course it's not going to happen. If we were in a different time perhaps people would be upset enough to put pressure on him to back off but unfortunately, there are far too many people with their hands outstretched waiting for loot and they really don't care about anything other than getting their "stuff". And yes, it does play hell with the political process and it pisses people off. But it's there for a very good reason; it just takes reaching a certain level of despair and destruction before it's supposed to be implemented.

243 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 5:59:56pm

re: #219 buzzsawmonkey

Also, $1 billion is over 11 times as much money as $85 million.

It is lots more, sure, however people are talking on this thread as though we haven't been paying bills for Hamas all along.

I'm not saying I do not want to kick President Obama in the shins, but our hands weren't clean before this.

244 jaunte  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:00:01pm

re: #213 Iron Fist

Did you see this? The Saiga's on the proposed ban-list.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

245 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:00:04pm

re: #235 OldLineTexan

You beat me to that one.

246 DisturbedEma  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:00:04pm

re: #236 gclaghorn

At least Michelle is proud of her country.

/


ack. . . what a joke that woman is. . .she makes me think of Lincoln- Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to open up your mouth and remove all doubt. . .

247 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:00:21pm

re: #236 gclaghorn

At least Michelle is proud of her country.

/

she wouldn't give the time of day to all the broken down hardscrabble New Mexicans that voter for her husband....

248 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:00:40pm

re: #241 JacksonTn

How much is he cutting on U.S. military in the budget? ...is he taking money from our military and sending it to these horrific terrorists? ...

Pretty much sums it up

249 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:00:51pm

re: #229 DisturbedEma

Glad to hear the babies are thriving. About the other, shivers here as well.

250 DisturbedEma  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:01:00pm

re: #238 pink freud

Please delete this, I do not want my name on this

251 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:01:08pm

re: #220 Killgore Trout

Did you see the interview I linked to last night? I think he's pretty clear that his "American style 1st amendment" will not cover Islam.

Yep, saw it. He's a straight-up bigot, and that's why the idiots who call themselves 'anti-jihad warriors' love him.

252 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:01:08pm

re: #239 jcm

Exactly.

253 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:01:13pm

re: #234 Last Mohican

And don't think I wouldn't give him a good tongue-lashing for it, too, if he happened to show up in my living room and invite me to voice my opinion.


I do not doubt it!

254 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:01:14pm

re: #246 DisturbedEma

ack. . . what a joke that woman is. . .she makes me think of Lincoln- Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to open up your mouth and remove all doubt. . .

Lincoln was practically speaking to Biden.

255 Gus  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:01:19pm

There's more money coming in. The FY 2009 request for Gaza and the West Bank is 100,000,000 dollars.

Go to page 48 of this State Dept. Document.

You can see other countries here.

256 Cygnus  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:01:39pm

re: #197 pingjockey

Because Charles has no use for neonazis? Fuck the goddamn neonazis.

Who would want to (deleted) a Neonazi? ;)

257 Wilderstad  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:01:40pm

Let's say it again. One Big Assed Mistake, America.

How can we get rid of this dead weight, dragging us all down?

258 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:02:19pm

Did the Bush administration not make similar "donations"? This is not a statement of support, just a question.

259 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:02:27pm

re: #237 CapeCoddah

Well, I have already had 2 fingers out of 4 of the whiskey. Thanks, but, mixing does not work out well at all for me!

*wink* you're ok.. I've always liked your postings..Go for it...
Wait! after this weekend..lay back alittle...too many meltdowns..
/whatcha drinking Cape?

260 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:02:31pm

Here is a perfect example of UN duplicity in action. See for yourself.

UN admits Israel didn't bomb UN school in Gaza after all.

But hey, why update the UNRWA website and pull the bullshit story. To this day, the report of Israel bombing the school are still posted.

They issue a tepid retraction when they were caught spreading Hamas propaganda and lies. But they never stopped spreading the propaganda and lies.

261 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:02:37pm

re: #257 Wilderstad

Let's say it again. One Big Assed Mistake, America.

How can we get rid of this dead weight, dragging us all down?

vote them out....heh

262 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:02:43pm

re: #225 Wendya

Yes, do you understand the context of high crimes and misdemeanors in politics? Impeachment, good bad or indifferent was designed to remove a politician from office who became a threat to the government or the nation or had It's not a civil process and it's not written to get rid of someone who snatches a snickers bar without paying for it. It was designed to overturn an election based on damage done to the office they hold.

One of the problems with the Clinton impeachment was that it was based on a charge no one gave a shit about. The public knew it was hypocritical to remove Clinton for lying under oath when it's a regular occurrence for politicians.

Wendya I think "become a threat..." leaves open much to interpretation. Here in Chicago we saw Impeach Bush signs all of the time. As much as I dislike Obama I would not approve of this just like I did not for Bush. Obama is also using Congress to execute his radical ideas. I think the best course of action is to develop a winning strategy to get him out in 2012.

With all of the waffling going on, I somehow feel he will be reelected.

263 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:02:48pm

re: #256 Cygnus
Ah, that was sailor talk for them to go piss up a rope.

264 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:03:00pm

03:47 U.S. officials: Saudi Arabia replacing Egypt as regional leader (Haaretz)

Oh goody?

265 pink freud  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:03:01pm

re: #250 DisturbedEma

My apologies, disturbedema.

266 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:03:12pm
267 jcm  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:03:13pm

re: #257 Wilderstad

Let's say it again. One Big Assed Mistake, America.

How can we get rid of this dead weight, dragging us all down?

Vote '10.
Take the House, and 3 Senate seats.

Lame Duck for the last 2 years.

268 Wilderstad  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:03:23pm

re: #261 albusteve

That would take too long. Obama is a disaster on two legs.

269 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:03:28pm

Totten's back, it's not out yet but he's writing up the Hitchens dust up now.

270 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:03:34pm

Ann "the Council of Conservative Citizens is not white supremacist" Coulter, now on the Hannity network.

271 twincitiesgirl  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:03:51pm

Nice to know he's got his priorities in order and is supporting his base.

/// ..send any complaints to Jimmy Carter

272 jimzinsocal  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:04:07pm

As I said elsewhere: Charity begins at home.
900 million translates to roughly 8 per US household.
Id rather do some Federal Lottery to give away the money to citizens here.

Lets see. 18,000 citizens get 50 K
36,000 get 25K

Not a tough choice for me....since were in a "giving" mood

273 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:04:15pm

re: #218 OldLineTexan

?

I heard he charges.

/

Tipper, maybe? Someone with a record of disliking free speech (which includes LOTS of stupid speech, unfortunately).

I honestly don't know if Tipper is anti-First Amendment. I think she was concerned about some extremely inappropriate language in those records. And, I shared--and do still share--those concerns.

I don't know. It's a tricky issue.

Besides, who cannot like a woman who inspired this?

NSFW/MINORS/EASILY OFFENDED PEOPLE.

274 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:04:34pm

re: #257 Wilderstad

Let's say it again. One Big Assed Mistake, America.

How can we get rid of this dead weight, dragging us all down?

Election day, 2012

275 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:04:43pm

re: #268 Wilderstad

That would take too long. Obama is a disaster on two legs.

there is no other choice,,,people are too passive to mount a huge tax revolt imo

276 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:05:04pm

Notice that not a single 'right-wing' blogger wanted to get anywhere near the Coulter/CCC story.

277 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:05:15pm

re: #258 Naso Tang
We did, the US I mean. IIRC they've been getting aid from us all along. Maybe not this much. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. Actually the words pissed off to no end come to mind. Why in Hell do we give terrorist savages our money?

278 cincinnati_kid37  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:05:19pm

We went from the Bush doctrine of opposing terrorism to now Paying For It.

Fuck me.

It's embarrassing to be an American.

279 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:05:56pm

re: #273 MandyManners

I honestly don't know if Tipper is anti-First Amendment. I think she was concerned about some extremely inappropriate language in those records. And, I shared--and do still share--those concerns.

I don't know. It's a tricky issue.

Besides, who cannot like a woman who inspired this?

NSFW/MINORS/EASILY OFFENDED PEOPLE.

She means it, folks... (gah)

280 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:05:56pm

re: #259 HoosierHoops

*wink* you're ok.. I've always liked your postings..Go for it...
Wait! after this weekend..lay back alittle...too many meltdowns..
/whatcha drinking Cape?

LOL, only thing in the house is a bottle of Makers Mark. Help yourself!

281 jcm  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:06:03pm

re: #270 Charles

Ann "the Council of Conservative Citizens is not white supremacist" Coulter, now on the Hannity network.

cofcc.org/?page_id=71

Statement of Principals.....

We believe the United States is a European country and that Americans are part of the European people.

*HURL*

282 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:06:03pm

re: #235 OldLineTexan

Michelle beat you to that revelation.

/

Then she should not be on the cover of Vogue magazine or wear J Crew clothing. She went to an Ivy league university. so did I. i feel fortunate to be an American, never thought it was a "downright mean" place. Look they put a woman that is IMHO below average in looks on the cover of a High Fashion magazine wearing J Crew. See America is nice to her all of the time. She is a hypocrite and what I cannot stand the most is that she seem unappreciative.

283 DisturbedEma  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:06:24pm

re: #249 CapeCoddah

Glad to hear the babies are thriving. About the other, shivers here as well.

The reason for me to freak is that at the very least, there was a pattern of violence and antisemitism over the ages, and from ghettos, purges, pograms and the like, from dhmmi status to star wearing non citizen, we Jews continued to put their faith in humanity for humanity's sake. . .even in this election, with all of the evidence to support the idea that this guy was going to hose us at first chance, Jews voted to "prove themselves loyal" to a government that will not be loyal back, in fact, we will be watching that government ride away from us in our time of need, and it will be as it always was. . .history will continue to repeat. . .and I am very scared about the futures of my children. . .their very lives. . .

284 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:06:42pm

re: #281 jcm
Gaaah!

285 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:06:49pm

re: #276 Charles

Notice that not a single 'right-wing' blogger wanted to get anywhere near the Coulter/CCC story.

Woulda meant taking on the machine, biting the hand that feeds them sometimes....

286 nyc redneck  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:06:51pm

and he showed so many obvious signs of his anti-american feelings during his entire campaign.
many were hidden or spun by the msm.
but many were obvious.
and people who had lost their minds ignored it all, and elected this dangerous man.
he is going to give the farm away.
so the rest of the world will be ok w/ us.

287 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:07:01pm

Here is the UNRWA web page of the Official UN Statements on Crisis in Gaza.

I can't find any official retractions of the school bombing that never happened in their Official Statements.

288 clayusmcret  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:07:03pm

He's obviously spending our money where his loyalties lie. What a turd.

289 DisturbedEma  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:07:22pm

re: #254 gclaghorn

Lincoln was practically speaking to Biden.


I think Biden was the wind beneath the wings on this one. . .:)

290 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:07:30pm

re: #270 Charles

I don't really see how she was defending the CCC. I kind of thought she was just pointing out that the liberals didn't get half as excited about the Obama-Wright connection as they did about Republicans speaking at the CCC.

291 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:07:34pm

re: #273 MandyManners

I wish I had not clicked that.

I still think Tipper would be a good choice to get all that "inappropriate" material off teh intertubes.

Of course, I am being sarcastic.

292 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:07:38pm

re: #244 jaunte

Did you see this? The Saiga's on the proposed ban-list.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Aw, hell. That would be the Dems all right: disarm the civilized and empower the barbarians. Anarchy we can believe in.

293 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:07:45pm

re: #270 Charles

Ann "the Council of Conservative Citizens is not white supremacist" Coulter, now on the Hannity network.

I am just waiting for Alan Colmes to come on in a bit with his Ayers interview.

Although Ann having to deal with Joy Behar subbing for Larry King was just wrong.

294 DisturbedEma  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:08:02pm

re: #284 pingjockey

Gaaah!

spit. . . for sure. . .

295 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:08:20pm

re: #278 cincinnati_kid37

We went from the Bush doctrine of opposing terrorism to now Paying For It.

Fuck me.

It's embarrassing to be an American.

R U feeling Michelle's pain?

296 solomonpanting  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:08:22pm

re: #258 Naso Tang

Did the Bush administration not make similar "donations"? This is not a statement of support, just a question.

I haven't found any yet. You?

297 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:08:27pm

re: #257 Wilderstad

Let's say it again. One Big Assed Mistake, America.

How can we get rid of this dead weight, dragging us all down?

There is nothing we can do until 2010.

298 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:08:53pm

re: #280 CapeCoddah

LOL, only thing in the house is a bottle of Makers Mark. Help yourself!

You know what? Think I'll join you...
:)

299 HippieforLife  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:08:54pm

Well, say what you may about John McCain and Sarah Palin; however, I have no doubt that had they been elected that we would not be seeing this shitstorm of massive spending and bowing and scraping to all those who would do us harm.

This country is under no obligation to give any of our money to the UN to give to Gaza. This adminstration needs to understand the so-called "Middle East peace" is just a bumper sticker slogan.

Along with the idea of throwing Israel under the bus this stupidty could do more harm for our troubled world.

300 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:09:02pm

re: #216 pingjockey

Oh crap. Sorry Charles, I was asking about Wilders. Did he get hooked up with that VB bunch. and their fellow travellers?

Yes.

301 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:09:29pm

re: #276 Charles

Notice that not a single 'right-wing' blogger wanted to get anywhere near the Coulter/CCC story.

Don't they know the whole story? Are they scared of pissing off Coulter? The CCC? Surely they don't support the CCC.

302 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:09:53pm

re: #296 solomonpanting
IIRC, didn't we give them "hummanitarian aid"? I've been wrong before and will be again.

303 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:10:05pm

re: #274 CapeCoddah

Election day, 2012

We can counter him in 2010.

304 captdiggs  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:10:13pm

Shameful.
Between Durban II and a $billion for the gazan terrorists, Obama is moving far more quickly to kiss arab ass than I ever thought he would.

305 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:10:22pm

re: #300 Charles
Sonsabitches.

306 teleskiguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:10:39pm

re: #276 Charles

Notice that not a single 'right-wing' blogger wanted to get anywhere near the Coulter/CCC story.

It's 'cause most of the punditry is blinded by ideology, unlike you Charles, who has measured and focused points of view. Coulter and the CCC? That's a good thing for most of these windbags. As far as conservatism is concerned, I'm a lizard.

307 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:10:50pm

re: #278 cincinnati_kid37

We went from the Bush doctrine of opposing terrorism to now Paying For It.

Fuck me.

It's embarrassing to be an American.

I would have updinged you, if not for the last line. Don't ever be ashamed of being an American. Be ashamed of our leaders, but not of America.

308 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:11:04pm

Oh gawd stupid Alan Comes will defend Bill Ayers I bet. Liberal or not who would want to share indoor breathing space with Bill Ayers?

309 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:11:14pm

re: #282 Afrocity

Then she should not be on the cover of Vogue magazine or wear J Crew clothing. She went to an Ivy league university. so did I. i feel fortunate to be an American, never thought it was a "downright mean" place. Look they put a woman that is IMHO below average in looks on the cover of a High Fashion magazine wearing J Crew. See America is nice to her all of the time. She is a hypocrite and what I cannot stand the most is that she seem unappreciative.

I find her angry. I don't know the source, but I have suspicions. I don't waste a lot of time on it since the campaign shut her up. I wish her the best; I would not want to raise two kids in a pressure cooker. She may be able to use that anger as strength.

The faux celebrity stuff is the media taking advantage of a (relative) political newbie, IMO.

310 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:11:14pm

re: #290 gclaghorn

I don't really see how she was defending the CCC. I kind of thought she was just pointing out that the liberals didn't get half as excited about the Obama-Wright connection as they did about Republicans speaking at the CCC.

Quote from her book:

there is little on the CCC website suggesting that the group is a “thinly veiled white supremacist” organization...

The front page has an ad for "White Pride" t-shirts. Sold by the neo-Nazi Stormfront website.

Hello?

311 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:11:47pm

re: #302 pingjockey

IIRC, didn't we give them "hummanitarian aid"? I've been wrong before and will be again.

Its the old "guns or butter" story. If you give your enemy the butter, he can buy more guns.

312 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:11:52pm

re: #308 Afrocity
Well I would if he'd get within reach of my clue by four!

313 Wendya  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:12:25pm

re: #262 Afrocity

Wendya I think "become a threat..." leaves open much to interpretation.


Of course it does, as it's supposed to since its a political action. Johnson wouldn't have been impeached today, particularly if public support were behind him. There have been several Presidents would could have been impeached but the Congress wasn't stupid enough to try because of a lack of public support. It's really a last ditch "legal" way to get rid of someone everyone hates. That's why it was silly to move on President Clinton. There was no public will just as there wouldn't be a will to remove any President unless his actions caused grave distress to the entire congress and the vast majority of the population. Some day, there may well be a President who meets that criteria but it's going to have to be something a heck of a lot more serious than paying off terrorists and redistributing income.

314 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:12:47pm

re: #297 MandyManners

There is nothing we can do until 2010.

There is one thing we can do ...MAKE NOISE ...faxes work the best ...when I email I just end up getting a canned email response ...no matter what I say in my emails ...if they have to replace the paper in their fax machines they may read the actual faxes ..

We have to make noise and let them know that we are coming for them in 2010 ...we have to make noise so those who chose to ignore what we were trying to tell them will maybe "hear" this time ...

315 jcm  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:12:50pm

re: #310 Charles

The front page has an ad for "White Pride" t-shirts. Sold by the neo-Nazi Stormfront website.

Hello?

CCC's Statement of principals is abundantly clear....
2) We believe the United States is a European country and that Americans are part of the European people.

316 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:13:03pm

re: #303 MandyManners

We can counter him in 2010.

I dont really wanna say it but I think 2010 is going to be too late. I have repeatedly said, "watch the middle east, it is the canary in the coal mine"

317 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:13:09pm

BO is goin for the big one...he can toss money at the Palis and draw down to Iran...almost everybody will love him accept his own citizens who can do little to stop him...we're actually fucked pretty good...America is becoming adicted to handouts and history is being rewritten to add the punchline...he really does think he is a messiah

318 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:13:12pm

re: #311 Mich-again
Yep. They (paleoterrorists) should never ever get any of our money.

319 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:13:12pm

re: #299 HippieforLife

But had McCain and Sarah won the MSM will not have given them credit for anything that actually went well.

Nevermind. Had McCain won ,the MSM would have committed suicide on November 5.

320 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:13:27pm

re: #311 Mich-again

Its the old "guns or butter" story. If you give your enemy the butter, he can buy more guns.

Or "Butter up the media so they'll provide cover while you take the people's guns".

/not really kidding

321 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:13:42pm

re: #310 Charles

Is it possible that she was satirizing the absurd claim by the left that Wright and his church weren't racist?

Not intended to defend what Coulter said, but I'm just thinking out loud.

322 midwestgak  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:13:42pm

Good night lizards.

323 DisturbedEma  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:13:49pm
324 solomonpanting  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:14:05pm

re: #302 pingjockey

IIRC, didn't we give them "hummanitarian aid"? I've been wrong before and will be again.

Found this.

325 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:14:17pm

re: #303 MandyManners

We can counter him in 2010.

I know, sorry. I was thinking him personally, although cutting him off at the knees in '10 is the first goal.

326 Wendya  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:14:26pm

re: #315 jcm

CCC's Statement of principals is abundantly clear....
2) We believe the United States is a European country and that Americans are part of the European people.

A "European country"?

327 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:14:27pm

re: #320 Dark_Falcon

Or "Butter up the media so they'll provide cover while you take the people's guns".


Thats a brand new take on an old theme.

328 BatGuano  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:14:45pm

Obama is becoming everything they voted for.. .and more.

329 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:14:55pm

re: #281 jcm

We believe the United States is a European country and that Americans are part of the European people.

I'm mostly European with a good dose of Cherokee. How do I reconcile this according to those idiots?

330 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:14:59pm

This man is a scary bastard.

331 Opinionated  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:15:04pm

re: #143 Opinionated

On Nov 4th, 2008 the DOW closed at 9,625.28

Today 7,114.78

Imagine the headline if McCain had been elected.

Bad news. Too many of our fellow citizens are still out of their freaking minds.

Poll Shows Broad Support for Obama’s Leadership

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

332 jaunte  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:15:17pm

re: #326 Wendya

It was news to the Sioux.

333 UberInfidel67  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:15:21pm

So does this OFFICIALLY make Obie a whore of the caliphate?

334 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:15:22pm

re: #326 Wendya

A "European country"?

It's code for white people, now that we have accepted the Irish.

/

335 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:15:24pm

re: #323 DisturbedEma

has this been posted yet?

Rep. Brian Baird, a Democrat from Washington state, visited Gaza last week with fellow Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota and was struck by "the level of destruction, the scope of it, specifically the civilian targets - schools, hospitals, industry."

Said all I needed to read........spit

336 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:15:29pm

Oh Geeze Colmes "There is a moral code" for what Ayers did.

337 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:15:32pm

Also, please head over to the creationist thread and downding the jerk at #770 who decided to insult Charles.

338 theheat  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:15:52pm

re: #177 pingjockey

I'll give one KKKlue.

339 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:15:57pm

re: #333 UberInfidel67

So does this OFFICIALLY make Obie a whore of the caliphate?

If not now, then soon. Very, very soon.

340 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:16:04pm

I hope all the douchenozzles who went to Florida to convince their "racist" grandparents to vote for 0bama are freaking happy now!

341 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:16:07pm

re: #325 CapeCoddah

I know, sorry. I was thinking him personally, although cutting him off at the knees in '10 is the first goal.

we need to defeat both ACORN and the MSN...the GOP is in disarray...chances are poor at best to gain 40 seats in the House

342 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:16:08pm

re: #331 Opinionated

Poll Shows Broad Support for Obama’s Leadership

Geeze. This is 2009. That is no way to refer to female voters!

343 nyc redneck  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:16:13pm

the film "milk" made a paltry 28 million dollars.
LOL

344 DisturbedEma  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:16:21pm

re: #338 theheat

I'll give one KKKlue.

And I am a JJJew. . .

345 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:16:23pm

re: #304 captdiggs

Shameful.
Between Durban II and a $billion for the gazan terrorists, Obama is moving far more quickly to kiss arab ass than I ever thought he would.

Weren't you paying attention last year?

When a man tells you who he is, believe him.

346 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:16:27pm

re: #337 Dark_Falcon
Are people still there? Wasn' that yesterday?!

347 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:16:36pm

re: #322 midwestgak

Good night lizards.

please note there is a lizard mint on your pillow..Complements of LGF.
Sleep well Gak.

348 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:16:41pm

re: #339 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

If not now, then soon. Very, very soon.

/sigh

They grow up so quickly these days.

349 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:16:59pm

re: #277 pingjockey

We did, the US I mean. IIRC they've been getting aid from us all along. Maybe not this much. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. Actually the words pissed off to no end come to mind. Why in Hell do we give terrorist savages our money?

I think some people think it gives us "leverage". Stupid maybe, but that is how politics thinks.

350 DisturbedEma  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:17:06pm

re: #340 Alouette

I hope all the douchenozzles who went to Florida to convince their "racist" grandparents to vote for 0bama are freaking happy now!

Yeah- fucking Sarah Silverman. . .

351 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:17:08pm

re: #331 Opinionated

Bad news. Too many of our fellow citizens are still out of their freaking minds.

Poll Shows Broad Support for Obama’s Leadership

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

He's just another celebrity to most people. They don't know what he has or hasn't done.

352 jcm  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:17:16pm

re: #326 Wendya

A "European country"?

Very thinly veiled......

They are barely smart enough to avoid "white."

(2) We believe the United States is a European country and that Americans are part of the European people. We believe that the United States derives from and is an integral part of European civilization and the European people and that the American people and government should remain European in their composition and character. We therefore oppose the massive immigration of non-European and non-Western peoples into the United States that threatens to transform our nation into a non-European majority in our lifetime.

The first point is about a theocracy.

353 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:17:28pm

re: #329 MandyManners

I'm mostly European with a good dose of Cherokee. How do I reconcile this according to those idiots?


You are required to show up to the Enthnicity DNA de-frag unit and become defragged into your seperate racial/ethnic/deomgraphic identities.

354 Wendya  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:17:31pm

re: #334 OldLineTexan

It's code for white people, now that we have accepted the Irish.

/

Well, I'm about half Irish and my husband is half Seneca... so I guess he's shit out of luck.

355 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:17:32pm

re: #338 theheat
Yep. Charles enlightened me on Mr. Wilders bad karma.

356 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:17:40pm

This is why I use humor sometimes. I am deeply troubled by Obama. I just want this to be over. In 4 or 8 years at some point there will be an end in sight and he will get on a plane and go back to Chicago.

357 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:17:40pm

re: #341 albusteve

we need to defeat both ACORN and the MSN...the GOP is in disarray...chances are poor at best to gain 40 seats in the House

Good luck with ACORN, now that their man is POTUS and they have access to YOUR tax monies.

358 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:17:50pm

re: #302 pingjockey

IIRC, didn't we give them "hummanitarian aid"? I've been wrong before and will be again.

Check out [Link: www.usaid.gov...] Their press releases give a fairly good overview. It's smaller sums than this, the main page says that Gaza/West Bank have gotten 2.2 billion through them since 1993.

359 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:05pm

re: #336 Afrocity

Oh Geeze Colmes "There is a moral code" for what Ayers did.

Yeah, there is a code. It's found in the Communist Manifesto, Rules for Radicals, and A Prairie Fire. Shitbirds, both of them.

360 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:05pm

re: #193 Opinionated

News from the parallel universe of the Arab Middle East.

The crown prince of Bahrain said on Monday Britain was too pro-Israel in its outlook,

Oh noes, here's Crown Prince with his newly purchased celebrity, who is wearing a Jew Bracelet.

361 Last Mohican  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:05pm

re: #323 DisturbedEma

has this been posted yet?

Not that I know of.

And thanks for posting it. Because I was just about to conclude that I could not possibly get more disgusted on this particular evening. What a mistake that would have been.

362 Racer X  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:06pm

re: #273 MandyManners

Not offended at all. In fact - it boosted my self esteem.

363 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:06pm

I am actually considering running for office. Even if it gets me assassinated.

364 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:13pm

re: #345 MandyManners

Weren't you paying attention last year?

When a man tells you who he is, believe him.

Mandy ...exactly ...I know you have more on your hard drive than I do on Obama ...I am not deleting any of it until he is out of office ...I find times when I need to bring some things out and ask people ...Why didn't you believe me before? ...It was right in front of your eyes ...you were blinded by love ...

365 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:15pm

re: #333 UberInfidel67

So does this OFFICIALLY make Obie a whore of the caliphate?

yes but you can watch it all unfold on television if you prefer...then hit the blogs and loudly complain...that'll show em

366 UberInfidel67  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:18pm

re: #356 Afrocity
Or Indonesia. lol

367 Mirage  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:21pm

re: #331 Opinionated

Bad news. Too many of our fellow citizens are still out of their freaking minds.

Poll Shows Broad Support for Obama’s Leadership

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

It's a NY Times poll... I'm not surprised it has high numbers for 0bama. I wonder what the legitimate polls are saying now that the Dow is continuing to fall.

368 jcm  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:31pm

Gotta run!

369 teleskiguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:42pm

Oh, and my opinion on this thread...doesn't surprise me, Obama is spending our money on stupid bullshit. It's pretty unconscionable that Obama doesn't know about the U.N. R&WA and their support for murderous freaks in Hamas and Hezbollah. Oh, I just realized something, Obama's administration has given more money to the U.N. R&WA than Ted Turner gave the entire U.N. Excuse me while I vomit blood.

370 DisturbedEma  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:50pm

re: #361 Last Mohican

Not that I know of.

And thanks for posting it. Because I was just about to conclude that I could not possibly get more disgusted on this particular evening. What a mistake that would have been.

ain't it the truth. . .

371 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:18:55pm

re: #321 gclaghorn

That's the rationalization of the whitewashing that being put out. It's nonsense.

372 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:19:12pm

re: #326 Wendya

A "European country"?

That means 'white'.

("Who you calling a white man, white man?")

373 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:19:15pm

re: #354 Wendya

Well, I'm about half Irish and my husband is half Seneca... so I guess he's shit out of luck.

Note the sarc tag, although only partially needed if you know the history of the Irish in the US. My surname is Scots-Irish.

374 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:19:19pm

re: #351 Bloodnok

He's just another celebrity to most people. They don't know what he has or hasn't done.

And they will be the first to bitch and moan when the worst happens...they will also be the first lined up against the wall with no blindfold or cigaretts (those are bad for the health, dontyaknow!)

375 Gus  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:19:21pm

re: #331 Opinionated

Bad news. Too many of our fellow citizens are still out of their freaking minds.

Poll Shows Broad Support for Obama’s Leadership

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Right, but if you go to page 2 of the report you can see that his disaproval ratings have gone up 7 points from 15 to 22.

Takes a while for American to have a moment of clarity and smell the coffee but once they do it should be downhill from there.

376 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:19:27pm

re: #368 jcm

Gotta run!


me too, bye all

377 jorline  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:19:32pm

re: #258 Naso Tang

Did the Bush administration not make similar "donations"? This is not a statement of support, just a question.

U.S. plans "substantial" pledge at Gaza meeting

In December, the former Bush administration said it would give $85 million to the U.N. agency that provides aid to Palestinian refugees in the West Bank, Gaza, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria.

378 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:19:37pm

re: #349 Naso Tang
The only leverage it gives, is the leverage for the savages to buy more weapons and see how stupid our gov't is.

379 NukeAtomrod  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:19:47pm

re: #154 CapeCoddah

Usually, I am a teetotaler. I just poured a large glass of Makers Mark...Bottle is on the table, help yourselves. I am getting drunk.

Don't mind if I do.

380 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:19:56pm

re: #357 OldLineTexan

Good luck with ACORN, now that their man is POTUS and they have access to YOUR tax monies.

not mine...I've already been jailed for failure to pay federal income taxes...twice

381 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:19:58pm

re: #371 Thanos

Well, she is a political satirist. I'm just wondering if what she was saying was satire.

And why would it be nonsense? She became famous for her sarcastic wit. What's to say she wasn't being sarcastic or satirical?

382 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:20:06pm

re: #346 pingjockey

Are people still there? Wasn' that yesterday?!

No, it was today's "GOP and the Creationists" thread. I won't quote the post, it was of the type that has mostly gotten deleted.

383 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:20:28pm

re: #329 MandyManners

I'm mostly European with a good dose of Cherokee. How do I reconcile this according to those idiots?

I believe you are probably 'assimilable' in their language.

Of course, if you come at them with a clue-by-four, they could change their minds.

384 Wendya  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:20:33pm

re: #373 OldLineTexan

Note the sarc tag, although only partially needed if you know the history of the Irish in the US. My surname is Scots-Irish.

I got the sarc tag. ;)

My Irish ancestors did very well here.

With a minimal amount of thieving.

385 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:20:42pm

re: #381 gclaghorn

Well, she is a political satirist. I'm just wondering if what she was saying was satire.

And why would it be nonsense? She became famous for her sarcastic wit. What's to say she wasn't being sarcastic or satirical?

I have the book. I posted the entire section in question.

It is not "satire."

386 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:20:54pm

re: #214 Cygnus

Gag. Puke. How long will the Obamagasm go on?

Get with it, man. You're living in the Great Messiahty now.

387 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:21:21pm

re: #358 SanFranciscoZionist
What I thought. Our state dept and 3/4 of the gov't is run by idiots who couldn't pour sand out of a boot.

388 Cygnus  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:21:38pm

re: #337 Dark_Falcon

Also, please head over to the creationist thread and downding the jerk at #770 who decided to insult Charles.

Too late; the 'jerk' has been banned.

389 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:21:38pm

re: #340 Alouette

I hope all the douchenozzles who went to Florida to convince their "racist" grandparents to vote for 0bama are freaking happy now!

I think six people actually did that. And those who did are probably ecstatic.

390 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:22:12pm

re: #380 albusteve

not mine...I've already been jailed for failure to pay federal income taxes...twice

OK, change that to "our" ... I'm willing to share.

391 pingjockey  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:22:49pm

re: #382 Dark_Falcon
I haven't looked at all of todays threads yet. Oops.

392 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:22:52pm

re: #366 UberInfidel67

Or Indonesia. lol

Yeah. I just feel sick about this. Never in a million years would I have thought that I would dislike the first African American POTUS as much as I would my worst enemy. I don't know why it bothers me so but it does. This election has taught me a lot about myself. Some of which I am still grappling with and find somewhat unsettling.

393 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:22:57pm

re: #329 MandyManners

I'm mostly European with a good dose of Cherokee. How do I reconcile this according to those idiots?

My grandparents came here from Italy. Every time I am asked to indicate my race, I put down "Native American". That is what I am. I was born here, in America. It really pisses questioners off when I put that down, but, too damed bad. I AM a native American.

394 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:23:06pm

re: #384 Wendya

I got the sarc tag. ;)

My Irish ancestors did very well here.

With a minimal amount of thieving.

We only stole Texas.

395 brookly red  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:23:24pm

re: #367 Mirage

It's a NY Times poll... I'm not surprised it has high numbers for 0bama. I wonder what the legitimate polls are saying now that the Dow is continuing to fall.

The Dow IS a legitimate poll.

396 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:24:06pm

re: #395 brookly red

The Dow IS a legitimate poll.

And Soros is its Luap Nor.

397 UberInfidel67  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:24:15pm

re: #392 Afrocity
You'll figure it out and you will be a better person for it.

398 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:24:19pm

re: #381 gclaghorn

Well, she is a political satirist. I'm just wondering if what she was saying was satire.

And why would it be nonsense? She became famous for her sarcastic wit. What's to say she wasn't being sarcastic or satirical?


It's not satire, there's really only a few explanations:

1. She's gotten lazy and blog scrapes for material without any fact checking.
2. She knows exactly who CCC is, knows it would cause controversy and wants the publicity.
3. She's whitewashing for Haley Barbour's and others sakes. (who else has been to the Blackhawk Meetings? Ron Paul for one, who will also be speaking at CPAC.)

Satire is a real stretch considering in the rest of the book she seems to stay factual about conservatives and conservative groups.

399 Macker  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:24:33pm

re: #141 Charles

There are no grounds to impeach Barack Obama. Let's not start sounding like the moonbats who wanted to impeach Bush without cause. Please?

I agree. He's already frakking up the country. After all, Hope and Change™ are what 52% of the electorate voted for!

/

400 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:24:47pm

re: #388 Cygnus

Too late; the 'jerk' has been banned.

Yep, I saw. It was clearly going to happen, the post was one of those over-the-top insult posts that always gets the delete/ban treatment. I just wanted to send the troll off with some downdings: They make nice parting gifts. ;)

401 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:24:50pm

re: #341 albusteve

we need to defeat both ACORN and the MSN...the GOP is in disarray...chances are poor at best to gain 40 seats in the House

Well, that is depressing!

402 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:25:03pm

re: #291 OldLineTexan

I wish I had not clicked that.

I still think Tipper would be a good choice to get all that "inappropriate" material off teh intertubes.

Of course, I am being sarcastic.

I had a long and thought-out response about the First Amendment, motion pictures, music, parents, kids and smut but, I fucked up something and got disconnected.

*sigh*

403 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:25:15pm

re: #390 OldLineTexan

OK, change that to "our" ... I'm willing to share.

ha!...I get your point and you would share...but don't get too close to me amigo, trouble follows me like stink on shit...I live an independent (reckless) lifestyle

404 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:25:25pm

re: #373 OldLineTexan

Note the sarc tag, although only partially needed if you know the history of the Irish in the US. My surname is Scots-Irish.

Well, I have a good dose of English and German, so that's probably OK with them.

The Irish, I suspect, they'll deal with, because, you know, pale skin, anyway.

The Jewish side, though...

Then,on my husband's side, we have Irish, English, Scots-Irish, Cherokee, Creek, and some African.

I used to think this was just a normal American family, but apparently we're not European enough.

Ah well. They're gonna haveta cope.

405 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:26:04pm

re: #402 MandyManners

I hate it when that happens.

406 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:26:32pm

re: #393 CapeCoddah

My grandparents came here from Italy. Every time I am asked to indicate my race, I put down "Native American". That is what I am. I was born here, in America. It really pisses questioners off when I put that down, but, too damed bad. I AM a native American.

W00t! You are getting tanked! You said "damned". ;-)

Seriously, I like to put down "OTHER".

407 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:26:56pm

re: #401 CapeCoddah

Well, that is depressing!

yes...but not impossible...it was pointed out earlier that the GOP copped 54 seats in the House in 1994...so we need an historic event

408 jorline  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:26:58pm

re: #343 nyc redneck

the film "milk" made a paltry 28 million dollars.
LOL

Send the "Milk Money" to the Palestinians and lets wash our hand.
Powdered milk from the tunnels.
//

409 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:26:59pm

I'm out a bit for 24

410 jamgarr  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:27:06pm

I tend not to care about Ann Coulter's attention-grabber au jour.

411 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:27:17pm

re: #385 Charles

I assume you're talking about this section, plus the preceding text that won't fit:


Republicans Senator Trent Lott and Representative Bob Barr did nothing more than give speeches to the CCC, yet they were forever damned by their association with it. Neither man even belonged to the CCC, nor did they attend CCC meetings once a week for twenty years. They certainly didn’t have their daughters baptized by CCC activists.

...

After the initial flurry of articles, editorials, and news stories in the Times excitedly reporting that Barr had spoken to the CCC, Democratic representative Bob Wexler introduced a resolution in Congress for the sole purpose of denouncing the Council of Conservative Citizens. Other than the 9/11 terrorists, the CCC may be the only group ever sin­gled out for denunciation in a congressional resolution. How about a resolution from Obama porn-porn girl Wexler on Obama’s Trinity United Church of Christ?

When Barr later gave a speech on the House floor favorably citing President John F. Kennedy, Senator Ted Kennedy’s son, Representa­tive Patrick Kennedy, got in Barr’s face, shouting, "How dare you! Anybody who has been to a racist group has no right invoking my uncle’s memory!’ Liberals are now reserving the right to tell us which former presidents we can mention by name.

Barr had given a speech to a group that, even assuming everything that the Southern Poverty Law Center says about it is true, does not hold a candle to the racism of Obama’s Trinity United Church of Christ. Obama was married by the Reverend Wright, his daughters were baptized by the Reverend Wright, Obama gave his second autobi­ography the title of one of the Reverend Wright’s sermons. And yet after decades of majoring in Guilt by Association, liberals were indig­nant when an ad on cable television linked Obama and the Reverend Jeremiah Wright Jr. The Times produced a blistering editorial decrying the "hate mongering" and calling the ads "the product of a radical fringe that has little regard for rational debate."

Liberals, who will attack with whatever is available because they have no principles, were also appalled by any attempt to link Obama to Bill Ayers. In an op-ed so clever she couldn’t stand herself, New York Times columnist Gail Collins wrote that if Obama was respon­sible for Ayers’s actions then she was responsible for the banking scandals of the eighties by virtue of the fact that savings-and-loan king Charles Keating had spoken at her high school thirty years ear­lier. Collins’s satirical chain of causation did not, however, apply to Republicans speaking to a group containing members who had be-longed to a segregationist group thirty years earlier, which, come to think of it, pretty much describes Collins’s connection to the banking scandals.

Can Trent Lott and Bob Barr get an apology now?

I'm sorry, that looks like satire to me.

412 Racer X  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:27:36pm

re: #323 DisturbedEma

Preliminary estimates have put the damage in the Gaza Strip following Operation Cast Lead at nearly $2 billion.

Saudi Arabia pledges 1 Billion.
U.S. pledges 1 Billion.

Where will the other billions go? And why isn't Iran ponying up with some cash?

413 Wishing  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:27:38pm

re: #363 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I am actually considering running for office. Even if it gets me assassinated.

Serious, or did you forget the /?

414 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:28:16pm

re: #403 albusteve

ha!...I get your point and you would share...but don't get too close to me amigo, trouble follows me like stink on shit...I live an independent (reckless) lifestyle

You're a few miles out, I'm probably safe enough.

Hey, and once the feces impact the atmospheric impeller, it won't make a difference, right? I'll bury some whiskey and cigars with the SKS rifles, ammo, and K-rats. Meet me in Pecos. The pass-phrase will be "Look at those melons."

/

415 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:28:17pm

re: #412 Racer X

Saudi Arabia pledges 1 Billion.
U.S. pledges 1 Billion.

Where will the other billions go? And why isn't Iran ponying up with some cash?

they don't have it

416 Gus  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:28:30pm

You know what response you get when you tell the man on the street that the DOW went down 400 points: oh I don't care, I don't own any stock. You know what response you get when you mention Hamas to the average electorate: what's Hamas? Isn't that like a vegie burger?

417 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:28:33pm

re: #397 UberInfidel67

You'll figure it out and you will be a better person for it.

(feeling choked up thinking of mom who died in 2007)

It just was not supposed to be like this. Uber. Not him.
The biggest lesson I have learned in life is that nothing is in my control.

418 phillygirl  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:28:51pm

re: #32 Nevergiveup
All my Liberal Jewish Friends and Family...Can you feel the love yet?

I predicted this. All my liberal friends, and my ivy-league educated daughter and crazy mixed up son, told me I was full of it. I didn't trust Obama because the Press fawned on him. He was treated with kid gloves. The Messiah had returned. My Rabbi made jokes about George Bush during High Holy Day services. (That'll teach me to join a Reform congregation.) And now my taxes are fueling the purchase of weapons aimed at Israel. ENOUGH!
I think it's time to join the Republican Jewish Coalition. At least I will be able to speak to like-minded people. I will help work for the election of more conservatives in 2010. Until the Democrats lose control of Congress, we are sunk......

419 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:28:55pm

re: #411 gclaghorn

No it's like she's saying because they have bigots, it's ok for us to be bigots. Bullshit.

420 tsionguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:29:06pm

re: #146 Mich-again

So true! Then again, there's another ironic twist. The Israeli electric car will be co-developed with Nissan.

421 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:29:43pm

This is a swift kick in the nuts to all non-muslims. *spit*
/Prayer mats! Get your prayer mats!

422 guest77  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:30:15pm

Every decision President B. Hussein O. has made involving the middle east in the month he has been in office has been anti-Israel, pro-Muslim. From rabid anti-Israel appointees to his decision to attend the Durban II Islamic hatefest against Israel, this guy has been there to appease the Islamists.

From his economic to diplomatic policies thus far, I really think this guy may turn out to displace Jimmy Carter as the worst President evah.

423 Hesperonis  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:30:20pm

Taking the money and burning it would be a more constructive use.

424 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:30:40pm

re: #418 phillygirl

Good for you. I joined the Black Republican Coalition.

425 Madman2  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:30:51pm

I wonder how many American Jews would switch their votes to McCain now if they had the chance? Probably not many, they have shown themselves to be more devoted to the liberal agenda of the Democrat party than they are to the lives of Jews in Israel.

426 tsionguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:30:52pm

re: #412 Racer X

These are Hamas estimates, which tend to be inflated by a factor of ten.

427 rawmuse  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:30:55pm

Great, now I'm funding terrorists.

428 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:30:59pm

re: #362 Racer X

Not offended at all. In fact - it boosted my self esteem.

ROFLMAO!

429 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:31:01pm

re: #414 OldLineTexan

You're a few miles out, I'm probably safe enough.

Hey, and once the feces impact the atmospheric impeller, it won't make a difference, right? I'll bury some whiskey and cigars with the SKS rifles, ammo, and K-rats. Meet me in Pecos. The pass-phrase will be "Look at those melons."

/

fair enough....Lizards Last Stand...clean air, beautiful country, the heart of old America and we will get some...

430 brookly red  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:31:08pm

re: #415 albusteve

they don't have it

they provide the hardware...

431 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:31:38pm

re: #419 Thanos

Eh, I'm still not so sure.

432 Gang of One  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:31:57pm

re: #333 UberInfidel67

So does this OFFICIALLY make Obie a whore of the caliphate?

I reckon it makes him a Galloping Gramscian Whore of the Caliphate.

433 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:31:57pm

I thought this thread was depressing...until I turned on the TV and started watching a '60's reunion bands pop music show on PBS.
It gives new meaning to the term "heavy rock" - I swear The Association alone had to have weighed in at easily 2 tons.

434 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:32:19pm

re: #364 JacksonTn

Mandy ...exactly ...I know you have more on your hard drive than I do on Obama ...I am not deleting any of it until he is out of office ...I find times when I need to bring some things out and ask people ...Why didn't you believe me before? ...It was right in front of your eyes ...you were blinded by love ...

I don't think I'll delete it until he's been out of office for three or four terms.

435 phillygirl  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:32:27pm

re: #424 Afrocity

Good for you. I joined the Black Republican Coalition.

Thanks. It's great to know some sanity still exists!

436 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:32:39pm

re: #412 Racer X

They're gonna pony up nukes. That's what makes this so sick.

437 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:32:47pm

re: #419 Thanos

I'm also not ready to trust anything the Southern Poverty Law Center or the Huffington Post says.

438 tsionguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:32:55pm

re: #418 phillygirl

Rather than run away from the problem, why not confront it within your own synagogue?

439 nyc redneck  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:33:03pm

re: #427 rawmuse

Great, now I'm funding terrorists.

regular people go to jail for that.
and also for being tax cheats.

the gov't gets a pass.

440 HippieforLife  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:33:04pm

re: #319 Afrocity

If the MSM committed suicide, that would be a bad thing why?

With their coverage of the O, they may have just gotten started on dying a slow death.

441 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:33:04pm

re: #430 brookly red

they provide the hardware...

and the frenetic Mojo....Mojo kills just as often as an AK or a mortar round

442 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:33:27pm

Don't blame me, I voted for Despair.

443 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:33:29pm

*SNIFF*

444 path  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:33:31pm

re: #178 Geepers

Ya gotta love the "we're not giving it to Hamas" line.

Nope. We're giving it to the UN NRWA so they can give it to Hamas.

Obama's a tricky little devil isn't he?

Transparant don't 'cha know!

445 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:33:57pm

re: #418 phillygirl

All my Liberal Jewish Friends and Family...Can you feel the love yet?

I predicted this. All my liberal friends, and my ivy-league educated daughter and crazy mixed up son, told me I was full of it. I didn't trust Obama because the Press fawned on him. He was treated with kid gloves. The Messiah had returned. My Rabbi made jokes about George Bush during High Holy Day services. (That'll teach me to join a Reform congregation.) And now my taxes are fueling the purchase of weapons aimed at Israel. ENOUGH!
I think it's time to join the Republican Jewish Coalition. At least I will be able to speak to like-minded people. I will help work for the election of more conservatives in 2010. Until the Democrats lose control of Congress, we are sunk......

I belong to the same congregation as Debbie Schlussel. Liberals run away and hide.

446 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:34:01pm

re: #406 MandyManners

W00t! You are getting tanked! You said "damned". ;-)

Seriously, I like to put down "OTHER".

LOL, I have said worse than that! I am buzzed though. "Other" does not set sparks flying. I like fireworks. I am usually politically incorrect, just to make a point, and because I detest politically correct, and I detest even more Americans being sorted into categories. That is what keeps us divided, is crap like that. We are Americans, and thats all one needs to know!

447 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:34:02pm

re: #437 gclaghorn

I'm also not ready to trust anything the Southern Poverty Law Center or the Huffington Post says.

Why don't you tell that to Charles since he is the one who posted that thread and those links?

448 solomonpanting  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:34:08pm

re: #427 rawmuse

Great, now I'm funding terrorists.

Whew! For a moment I thought you were alluding to William Ayers.

449 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:34:19pm

re: #439 nyc redneck

regular people go to jail for that.
and also for being tax cheats.

the gov't gets a pass.

excellent observation....

450 tsionguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:35:28pm

re: #445 Alouette

Can you ask Debbie for an autographed photo?

451 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:35:28pm

re: #425 Madman2

I wonder how many American Jews would switch their votes to McCain now if they had the chance? Probably not many, they have shown themselves to be more devoted to the liberal agenda of the Democrat party than they are to the lives of Jews in Israel.

Sad but true. I wondered why they voted for Obama in the first place. Obama could burn a picture of MLK and the African Americans will still vote for him.

452 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:35:41pm

Welcome back, Carter.

453 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:35:54pm

re: #407 albusteve

yes...but not impossible...it was pointed out earlier that the GOP copped 54 seats in the House in 1994...so we need an historic event

I really think we will get it. We are on a "Hiistoric" roll.

454 phillygirl  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:36:34pm

re: #438 tsionguy

Rather than run away from the problem, why not confront it within your own synagogue?

Are you kidding? I live inside a Middle Atlantic Democratic enclave - the most liberal state in the US. These people will never change. It's not worth the effort. There is strength in numbers - but in this case it's the wrong set of numbers.

If you have any suggestions, I'd be interested in hearing them, but........

455 brookly red  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:36:36pm

re: #441 albusteve

and the frenetic Mojo....Mojo kills just as often as an AK or a mortar round

true, & mojo does discriminate...

456 nyc redneck  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:36:48pm

re: #449 albusteve

excellent observation....

:D

457 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:36:51pm

re: #447 MandyManners

Why don't you tell that to Charles since he is the one who posted that thread and those links?

Yup, and had to take a lot of flak for his stance too.

458 songbird  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:37:00pm

re: #410 jamgarr

I tend not to care about Ann Coulter's attention-grabber au jour.

Ann Coulter? Who's she?

/

459 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:37:12pm

did everyone catch what nyc redneck just said?...if you laundered money and sent it Hamas you'd be prosecuted under federal law...think about that

460 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:37:17pm

re: #407 albusteve

yes...but not impossible...it was pointed out earlier that the GOP copped 54 seats in the House in 1994...so we need an historic event

LOL ...you giving yourself away there steve ...I have not heard anyone say "copped" since smoking pot when I was young ...

461 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:37:44pm

re: #447 MandyManners

Don't get me wrong. This is Charles's blog, and I will not dispute that he has the right to do what he want and say what he wants on it.

I may not agree with it, but I'm always glad to hear someone else's opinion on something, even if I disagree with it. Debate is what makes this country great. And I certainly am grateful for everything he's done, from his pro-Israel stance to his pwnage of Dan Rather.

I'm just a little skeptical about using SPLC and HuffPo as my sources for moral guidance.

462 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:37:55pm

re: #450 tsionguy

Can you ask Debbie for an autographed photo?

Bikini or fully clothed?

463 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:37:59pm

re: #411 gclaghorn

Why are you posting that, and leaving out the parts where Coulter makes excuses for the CCC?

What's your purpose here?

464 Promethea  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:38:15pm

re: #42 _RememberTonyC

I hope I don't get banned for this, but it needs to be said. Considering the recent Durban-II rumblings and now this, I have to wonder if the Jewish advisors around Obama are either the "self hating" variety, or they are the equivalent of "kapos" on some subconscious level.

Sorry in advance if this is offensive to anyone ...

Not offensive. I agree.

465 FightingBack  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:38:25pm

re: #446 CapeCoddah

LOL, I have said worse than that! I am buzzed though. "Other" does not set sparks flying. I like fireworks. I am usually politically incorrect, just to make a point, and because I detest politically correct, and I detest even more Americans being sorted into categories. That is what keeps us divided, is crap like that. We are Americans, and thats all one needs to know!

I write in "Refuse." Since I am an immigrant, I was once "wretched refuse."

466 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:38:30pm

re: #460 JacksonTn

LOL ...you giving yourself away there steve ...I have not heard anyone say "copped" since smoking pot when I was young ...

I'm just an old punk...and getting older

467 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:39:03pm

re: #461 gclaghorn

Don't get me wrong. This is Charles's blog, and I will not dispute that he has the right to do what he want and say what he wants on it.

I may not agree with it, but I'm always glad to hear someone else's opinion on something, even if I disagree with it. Debate is what makes this country great. And I certainly am grateful for everything he's done, from his pro-Israel stance to his pwnage of Dan Rather.

I'm just a little skeptical about using SPLC and HuffPo as my sources for moral guidance.

Bullshit.

I already told you that I have the book, and I quoted the relevant section in my post.

468 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:39:38pm

I smell the stick.

469 blangwort  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:39:50pm

The president Obama said to you' uns
Don't ever call me a dunce
Send Gaza a billion
And hope God willin
They'll leave us alone just for once

That's not just Change they're spending on Hope...

470 tsionguy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:39:52pm

re: #462 Alouette

This sounds like an extremely progressive synagogue!

471 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:39:54pm
472 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:40:02pm

re: #412 Racer X

Saudi Arabia pledges 1 Billion.
U.S. pledges 1 Billion.

Where will the other billions go? And why isn't Iran ponying up with some cash?

Iran provides splodeythings, under the table.

473 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:40:14pm

re: #463 Charles

I only excluded that paragraph because it only really talked about Dick Gephardt being a "preposterous boob", and other people had already quoted the preceding section.

But here's the rest of it if it makes you happy:


According to his devoted media claque, Obambi was a victim of "guilt by association" whenever anyone mentioned his two-decade association with a racist preacher or his ties to an unrepentant domestic terrorist. Being offended by "guilt by association" was another new posture for liberals, who heretofore had specialized in making guilt-by ­association charges.

Republican politicians who had given speeches to a conservative group, the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), were branded sym­pathizers of white supremacists because some of the directors of the CCC had, decades earlier, been leaders of a segregationist group, the Citizen Councils of America, which were founded in 1954. There is no evidence on its Web page that the modern incarnation of the CCC supports segregation, though its "Statement of Principles" offers that the organization opposes "forced integration" and "efforts to mix the races of mankind." But mostly the principles refer to subjects such as a strong national defense, the right to keep and bear arms, the traditional family, and an "America First" trade policy."

Apart from some aggressive reporting on black-on-white crimes—the very crimes that are aggressively hidden by the establishment media—there is little on the CCC website suggesting that the group is a "thinly veiled white supremacist" organization, as the New York Times calls it in one of its more charitable descriptions. At least the crimes reported on the CCC’s Web page actually happened, as opposed to the Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s claim that the U.S. government invented AIDS to kill blacks.

... [Part that I already quoted]

But according to the establishment media, Lott and Barr were fully responsible for the decades-old affiliations of some of the directors of a group . . . because they spoke at the CCC. As the media’s hysteria about the CCC reached a fever pitch, a Times editorial howled about "fresh evidence of the persistence of racism" on the part of Lott based on his "links to the white separatist group called the Council of Conservative Citizens." The New York Times was shocked by the group’s "thinly veiled white supremacist agenda," but was somewhat more accepting of the completely unveiled racism of Obama’s preacher. One surmises that the CCC’s thin veil of white supremacy would have become a bit thicker had Democratic congressman Dick Gephardt ever been a seri­ous candidate for president. In the 1970s, he had spoken to a branch of the related, but more outre, Citizen Councils of America. That, and the fact that he’s a preposterous boob, are probably the only two things that kept Dick Gephardt out of the White House.

474 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:40:22pm

re: #452 FrogMarch

Welcome back, Carter.

..Your dreams were your ticket out.

475 irongrampa  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:40:46pm

Wow.

More of that weapons grade stupid.

476 path  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:41:06pm

re: #406 MandyManners

W00t! You are getting tanked! You said "damned". ;-)

Seriously, I like to put down "OTHER".

I always put down HUMAN.

477 gclaghorn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:41:16pm

re: #467 Charles

I have the book too, and I've read it. With all respect, I disagree with you.

478 NukeAtomrod  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:41:35pm

re: #336 Afrocity

Oh Geeze Colmes "There is a moral code" for what Ayers did.

And for some reason the left says Colmes isn't liberal enough.

479 phoenixgirl  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:41:39pm

from nychardhat

one
big
ass
mistake
america

480 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:41:43pm

re: #461 gclaghorn

Horsefeathers.

You have something against an organization that has fought to end violent Klan and Fascist organizations in America?

481 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:42:43pm

re: #477 gclaghorn

I've completely had it with people who make excuses for white supremacists, and I bid you adieu.

482 YY  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:42:56pm

Well, in the Obama Administration's defense, Israel sent around $1 billion into Gaza in a matter of weeks. So, if we're going to spend that kind of money on Gaza, we should follow Israel's lead and send the money in on F-16's.

Not gonna happen, of course.

A truly crazy world.

Oy!

483 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:42:58pm

re: #473 gclaghorn
But here's the rest of it if it makes you happy:

He's got the book. Why continue to "whack!"?

484 Last Mohican  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:43:22pm

re: #418 phillygirl

My Rabbi made jokes about George Bush during High Holy Day services. (That'll teach me to join a Reform congregation.)

I have had a similar experience. I don't recommended having your blood boil when you've been fasting.

485 rgranger  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:43:34pm

it is a shame that we cannot sue congress... for doing all the things that they don't have the power to do: income redistribution, charity, unfunded mandates, and on and on and on...

486 lostlakehiker  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:43:43pm

Aren't we at war with Hamas? Or as near as? Did we send money to the German Hungry Workers Relief fund during WW1?

487 jamgarr  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:44:24pm

claghorn leghorn shoulda said:"It was a joke, son. A joke."

488 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:44:35pm

re: #478 NukeAtomrod

And for some reason the left says Colmes isn't liberal enough.

They just wanted someone that could stand up to Hannity and Colmes is a wuss.

I am listening to the replay of Sean Penn's acceptance speech. I used to love his films but I am considering not seeing MILK.

489 DeepThroat  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:44:35pm

Money we don't have.

490 brookly red  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:44:42pm

re: #474 Afrocity

..Your dreams were your ticket out.

I didn't think you were old enough to remember that...

491 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:44:46pm

re: #486 lostlakehiker

Aren't we at war with Hamas? Or as near as? Did we send money to the German Hungry Workers Relief fund during WW1?

Well, no, we're not. That's the short answer.

492 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:45:27pm

re: #473 gclaghorn


The full passage just makes it worse. She was blithely ignoring the White Supremacist agenda of the CCC. Don't have this argument, glag. Its not a hill you want your account to die on.

493 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:45:42pm

Anyone know how to use Disruptors™, the Phased Polaron Cannon™, Phase Cannons™…even a simple ass Phaser™?

Submit your resume to the White House NOW or I suggest President Obama surrender to Canada before ‘Wild Bill’ Shatner runs for Prime Minister of Canada.

We are absolutely screwed.

494 MarineGrunt  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:45:49pm

re: #31 itellu3times

You can call him, but will he come?


Only if you talk dirty on the phone.

495 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:45:52pm

re: #489 DeepThroat

Money we don't have.

time for a new amendment eh?

496 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:46:16pm

Helen Thomas is thrilled! The news sent shivery goosebumps up and down Helen's baggy veined legs.

"Finally!" Helen proclaimed, "The Freedom Fighters deserve our support."

497 Wishing  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:46:39pm

re: #473 gclaghorn

I only excluded that paragraph because it only really talked about Dick Gephardt being a "preposterous boob", and other people had already quoted the preceding section.

But here's the rest of it if it makes you happy:

I am not sure why you are covering for Coulter, but there is NO question that SHE is covering for CCC, a vile hateful, white-supremacist group.

498 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:46:49pm
499 phoenixgirl  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:46:53pm

re: #492 Dark_Falcon

The full passage just makes it worse. She was blithely ignoring the White Supremacist agenda of the CCC. Don't have this argument, glag. Its not a hill you want your account to die on.

it may have not been the hill he wanted, but it was the hill none the less

500 cincinnati_kid37  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:46:55pm

re: #295 OldLineTexan

R U feeling Michelle's pain?

No, it's a lot worse than that ;-]

501 brookly red  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:02pm

re: #486 lostlakehiker

Aren't we at war with Hamas? Or as near as? Did we send money to the German Hungry Workers Relief fund during WW1?

Details/

502 Sheepdogess  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:12pm

William (evil) Ayers on FOX playing the gay card....

What.
A.
Turd.

Humanity stinks.

503 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:15pm

I called it at #468.
Pay up kids.

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504 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:25pm

re: #481 Charles

I've completely had it with people who make excuses for white supremacists, and I bid you adieu.

I was too late with my #492. Goodbye, gclaghorn, I'm sorry you had to leave, but you did it to yourself. :(

505 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:45pm

re: #477 gclaghorn

I have the book too, and I've read it. With all respect, I disagree with you.

Ann Coulter is not known for satire. She means what she says.

506 BignJames  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:47:51pm

re: #496 FrogMarch

Helen Thomas is thrilled! The news sent shivery goosebumps up and down Helen's baggy veined legs.

"Finally!" Helen proclaimed, "The Freedom Fighters deserve our support."


You coulda' went all night without posting that....bad visual.

507 Mad Mullah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:48:15pm

The terrorists will certainly put that billion dollars to good use towards their genocidal goals. The ironic part is that Obama carried the Jewish vote in the United States, even though there were numerous warning signs before the elections. Liberal Jews can't be the brightest people around, in my opinion.

508 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:48:19pm

re: #490 brookly red

I didn't think you were old enough to remember that...

I will be 40 in August :-(

509 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:48:24pm

sheepdogess,

William (evil) Ayers on FOX playing the gay card....

Ayers is gay?

510 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:49:25pm

The Holy Land Foundation sent what, maybe $10 million to Hamas.

Thats chump change compared to how much the US taxpayer is going to send them.

511 NukeAtomrod  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:50:34pm

re: #423 Hesperonis

Taking the money and burning it would be a more constructive use.

*GASP* Think of the CO2 emissions!

/

512 Archimedes  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:50:49pm

Geert Wilders was supposed to be on Glenn Beck Show today, I heard. Anyone know if there is a video of it available on the web?

513 brookly red  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:50:49pm

re: #508 Afrocity

I will be 40 in August :-(

well here's to good living! clink

514 cincinnati_kid37  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:51:08pm

re: #307 CapeCoddah

I would have updinged you, if not for the last line. Don't ever be ashamed of being an American. Be ashamed of our leaders, but not of America.

Point taken. It could have been phrased better. But imagine yourself now, representing America, answering a [righteous] question from any non American asking - What IS America's policy on Terrorism? Why does Obama have a 68% approval rating ? (I know, but that's what's in the news.) Is this how Americans feel the terror problem should be handled?

My [best] answer would have to be that the inmates have taken over the asylum.

515 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:51:17pm

as an aside...ya gotta give CJ credit for going to the wall with some of these posters...even if I was smart enough I don't think I would

516 mikeymom  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:51:31pm

re: #498 buzzsawmonkey

Where have all the billions gone
Long time passing?
Where have all the billions gone
Long time ago?
Where have all the billions gone?
Gone to terrorists, each one
When will we ever learn?
When will we ever learn?

i usually love your parodies--but that one is sooo sad--of all the disturbing threads in the last few days--this one is just gut wrenching--we--and israel are sooo screwed--i guess i DID pick a bad time to quit smoking--

517 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:51:32pm
518 solomonpanting  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:51:58pm

re: #502 Sheepdogess

William (evil) Ayers on FOX playing the gay card....

What.
A.
Turd.

Humanity stinks.

re: #509

Dirk Diggler

sheepdogess,


Ayers is gay?

No. He supports Dems (D)
(D) + evil = Devil

519 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:52:06pm

re: #509 Dirk Diggler

sheepdogess,

Ayers is gay?

No, he's married with kids. Not gay as far as I know, just a murderous asshole.

520 WindHorse  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:53:28pm

Gary Locke-step...... what a joke. Obama, the gift that keeps on giving.....

521 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:54:15pm

re: #488 Afrocity

They just wanted someone that could stand up to Hannity and Colmes is a wuss.

I am listening to the replay of Sean Penn's acceptance speech. I used to love his films but I am considering not seeing MILK.

I want to see milk.. You know..I have never seen eye to eye with Sean on Politics..But as an actor..I have great respect for him..I saw the movie 'I am Sam' and his part brought tears to the Hoopsters eyes..Brilliant acting...
I don't look towards Hollywood for my moral compass.. I just love a good movie...And Sean Penn deserves Kudo's as a great actor..
/and was the sound track to I am Sam just the coolest around? Come-on! great Beatles songs!
//I know..shut up hoopster...:)

522 lobo91  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:54:54pm

re: #471 Iron Fist

I'm surprised. I only own one weapon on the list of those that would be explicitly banned: a Kel-Tec Sub 2000. It's kind of a nifty little gun. Folds in half, fits into a briefcase-sized carrying case, takes the same magazines as my Glocks.

Not really something I'd use to go on a major crime spree, though.

I'm sure they'll add my M1A to the list at some point.

Sigh.

523 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:54:56pm
524 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:55:16pm

re: #488 Afrocity

They just wanted someone that could stand up to Hannity and Colmes is a wuss.

I am listening to the replay of Sean Penn's acceptance speech. I used to love his films but I am considering not seeing MILK.

I don't go to movies or concerts anymore. I will NOT put money in those anti-American pockets. Hubby and I went to a Tony Bennett concert 2 summers ago.
We both love his music, and had been trying to get tickets for years. I finally got them and surprised hubby with them. Well, weren't the Kennedy's there en masse that night, and didn't Mr. Bennett suck up to them mightily. I have never been so disappointed in my life. He assured them they had his full support, all they had to do was call. Asking the audience for applause/ ovation for the "wonderful" family. I will never go to see him again.

525 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:55:21pm

re: #519 Dark_Falcon

No, he's married with kids. Not gay as far as I know, just a murderous asshole.

Could be bi!

526 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:55:25pm

If Obama calls Israel a terrorist organization do they get lotsa extra billions too?/

527 SteveC  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:55:28pm

re: #395 brookly red

The Dow IS a legitimate poll.

But it is not a poll that most of Obama's supporters pays attention to. The Dow? That's for them rich folks! Let 'em sweat, just gimmie what's MINE!

528 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:55:44pm

re: #525 MandyManners

Could be bi!

But, does it matter?

529 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:55:51pm

re: #521 HoosierHoops

Just sayin that when they flap their mouth about political issues it makes me less likely to watch them on film.

530 Steffan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:56:43pm

re: #471 Iron Fist

I hadn't seen it. Thanks. Yeah, it is no surprise that the Saiga would be on the list. After all, with the stroke of a pen Bill Clinton made three different types of "assault" shotguns destructive devices. Because, you know, you blow up buildings with a Stryker 12.

Widespread attempts at gun confiscation are one of the (relatively few) triggers that could turn the Cold Civil War hot. And it could do that very quickly, maybe literally overnight.

One big question is where would the Military and Police stand on the issue. If the Police refused to abide by it (say, arresting the Federals that try and enforce an Unconstitutional law) it might quickly fade into the night. If the Military decided to (or was ordered to) take a hand, things can go from bad to worse for whichever side is opposite where the Military comes down on the issue.

The military swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution "against all enemies, foreign and domestic." Gates would be the first to balk at an order to enforce a plainly un-Constitutional law.

At the local gun shop, there is a backlog of special orders that can't be filled at the moment because of the almost insane demand. Any shipment of handguns they get in are gone within two days. Weapons and ammunition seem to be the only consumer items that are moving at any volume.

Part of it, I think, is that everybody's stocking up while purchasing such items is still legal. I think a large part of it might be in preparation for Thomas Jefferson's concept about the Tree of Liberty requiring the blood of patriots and tyrants.

It's interesting, though, that the MSM has said next to nothing about this. I mean, you'd think that such a large part of the economy being solidly in the black would be good news, right?

531 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:57:47pm

re: #521 HoosierHoops

I have never seen eye to eye with Sean on Politics..But as an actor..I have great respect for him..

I disagree. He is one of those actors who always just plays himself whatever the role.

His only really good role was Spicolli. Its been all downhill since then.

532 jamgarr  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:58:45pm

His only really good role was Spicolli.

and I think he was playing himself then too

533 Sheepdogess  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:58:57pm

re: #488 Afrocity

They just wanted someone that could stand up to Hannity and Colmes is a wuss.

I am listening to the replay of Sean Penn's acceptance speech. I used to love his films but I am considering not seeing MILK.

He is the same, you have changed.
Welcome.

534 WindHorse  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:59:02pm

nothing personal to anyone who likes Sean Penn..... but, I think he is a compleat idiot. I would never give that douche a dime of mine.

535 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:59:10pm

re: #514 cincinnati_kid37

Point taken. It could have been phrased better. But imagine yourself now, representing America, answering a [righteous] question from any non American asking - What IS America's policy on Terrorism? Why does Obama have a 68% approval rating ? (I know, but that's what's in the news.) Is this how Americans feel the terror problem should be handled?

My [best] answer would have to be that the inmates have taken over the asylum.

I agree with that, but, I will NEVER be ashamed of being American. The shame and the blame go to our lying, thieving elected officials. O has only been in office a month. Soon, he will be texting President Bush to find out how he kept his numbers so high.

536 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 6:59:18pm

re: #531 Mich-again

I disagree. He is one of those actors who always just plays himself whatever the role.

His only really good role was Spicolli. Its been all downhill since then.

acting is make believe...what's with "great respect"?....so what

537 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:00:34pm
538 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:00:45pm

Just put it on the stimulus tab.

Barack is going to switch to pay as we go... uh yeah ... that's the ticket. It's all pay as we go now. Magic.

539 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:00:59pm

re: #519 Dark_Falcon

In one of his books he talked about how he slept with other women, and at least one man, his best friend, IIRC, in order to rid society of marriage.

I saw him on O'Reilly tonight and he makes my skin crawl. Not because of bi-sexual reasons but his contempt for America.

I'd like to stick a pencil in his my neck every time I see him.

540 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:01:22pm

re: #529 Afrocity

Just sayin that when they flap their mouth about political issues it makes me less likely to watch them on film.

A million updings.

541 irongrampa  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:01:42pm

In the runup to the election, I posted to the effect that America has had the knack of having the right person for the right time, in any given situation, Even a cursory look back through our history will bear this out.
The stumbles (Carter) merely show the correct path to take.

For the very first time, I wonder if this still holds true.

542 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:02:01pm

Robin Williams, Eddie Murphy, Will Ferrell, Three more actors who can't act, they just learn the lines. Its the same character every time they are in a movie. Themselves.

543 Steffan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:02:19pm

re: #485 rgranger

it is a shame that we cannot sue congress... for doing all the things that they don't have the power to do: income redistribution, charity, unfunded mandates, and on and on and on...

Well, unfortunately, the ones we most want to punish are in safe districts.

My Congresscritter is a Republican. Ain't a lot she can do right now.

Mary Bono. One of the good ones, even if they gerrymandered her district to Hell and back.

544 doppelganglander  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:02:35pm

re: #488 Afrocity

They just wanted someone that could stand up to Hannity and Colmes is a wuss.

I am listening to the replay of Sean Penn's acceptance speech. I used to love his films but I am considering not seeing MILK.

I haven't liked him in anything since "Fast Times at Ridgemont High." I was so grateful to have fast forward time on my DVR when he got up to speak. He's a pompous, wife-beating (allegedly) jackass.

545 rain of lead  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:02:46pm

during the election, some folks talked about going "john gault"
well I am well on my way to doing just that.
took a job making less money close to home, less taxes collected
don't travel-don't buy gas
don't eat out
no car payment, no cc bills
don't spend money
hunker down,hunker down,hunker down
sucks

546 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:03:09pm

re: #534 WindHorse

nothing personal to anyone who likes Sean Penn..... but, I think he is a compleat idiot. I would never give that douche a dime of mine.

I have no feelings at all about Sean Penn--but I do want to see Milk. If only to see Rawmuse's house.

(Isn't it The Best Christmas Pageant Ever where the father goes to the Christmas play to see his bathrobe?)

547 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:03:24pm

re: #544 doppelganglander

Mystic River was good. No?

548 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:03:57pm

re: #536 albusteve

acting is make believe...what's with "great respect"?....so what

"with the greatest respect" = "you're an asshole but I can't say it"

549 lobo91  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:04:07pm

re: #539 Abu Bin Squid

I saw him on O'Reilly tonight and he makes my skin crawl. Not because of bi-sexual reasons but his contempt for America.

I'd like to stick a pencil in his my neck every time I see him.

I'd rather stick a pencil in his neck.

550 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:04:13pm

can an actor heal the sick? build a bridge? play the clarinet? swim the Channel? lead a platoon?.....if so he may be worthy of my respect

551 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:04:32pm

re: #529 Afrocity

Just sayin that when they flap their mouth about political issues it makes me less likely to watch them on film.

LOL! you're just fine Afro..But you realize I grew up in California? When I was a kid.. we had a transvestite called Sister Boom Boom run for Mayor?
My family is so liberal that they make the Clinton's look like Pat Roberson?
I'm try to be friends with everyone..But I never just buy the Bullshit..
*wink*

552 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:05:11pm
553 brookly red  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:05:21pm

re: #550 albusteve

can an actor heal the sick? build a bridge? play the clarinet? swim the Channel? lead a platoon?.....if so he may be worthy of my respect

Regan was an actor...

554 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:05:51pm

re: #548 Spare O'Lake

"with the greatest respect" = "you're an asshole but I can't say it"

that says alot about you....maybe you will get over your name calling...

555 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:05:56pm

re: #522 lobo91

I'm surprised. I only own one weapon on the list of those that would be explicitly banned: a Kel-Tec Sub 2000. It's kind of a nifty little gun. Folds in half, fits into a briefcase-sized carrying case, takes the same magazines as my Glocks.

Not really something I'd use to go on a major crime spree, though.

I'm sure they'll add my M1A to the list at some point.

Sigh.

Then we need to ensure that that list does not become law. We need to keep our side in line, and peel off some Dems (and on this issue it can be done, perhaps including Hillary's replacement in the Senate). Gun Bans can be stopped, but they have to be fought aggressively to do that.

556 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:06:06pm

re: #550 albusteve

can an actor heal the sick? build a bridge? play the clarinet? swim the Channel? lead a platoon?.....if so he may be worthy of my respect

You don't see it as a skill unto itself? At least as much so as playing the clarinet? I can't act, but I like to watch actors do their thing.

557 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:06:21pm

re: #549 lobo91
I kinda said that.
his

558 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:06:29pm

re: #553 brookly red

Regan was an actor...

Reagan was an exceptional human being. We were so lucky to have been here to know him. There will never be another.

559 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:06:36pm

re: #531 Mich-again

I disagree. He is one of those actors who always just plays himself whatever the role.

His only really good role was Spicolli. Its been all downhill since then.

Hey..I updinged you..I understand your position..I still loved 'I am Sam' Period..
Now upding me back Michigan!
LOL

560 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:06:49pm

re: #552 buzzsawmonkey

You could say the same thing about Humphrey Bogart, James Cagney, or even John Wayne. The difference is that the characters these modern actors play are despicable, even when they are the "good guys"--while the characters that Bogart, Cagney, and Wayne played were not entirely despicable even when they were "bad guys."

Well gather your Mongal hoards, wa ha....


/S

561 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:07:15pm

re: #553 brookly red

Regan was an actor...

good politicians are...he had a good heart too

562 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:07:15pm

re: #551 HoosierHoops

LOL! you're just fine Afro..But you realize I grew up in California? When I was a kid.. we had a transvestite called Sister Boom Boom run for Mayor?
My family is so liberal that they make the Clinton's look like Pat Roberson?
I'm try to be friends with everyone..But I never just buy the Bullshit..
*wink*

Sister Boom Boom is still around...

563 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:07:36pm

re: #550 albusteve

can an actor heal the sick? build a bridge? play the clarinet? swim the Channel? lead a platoon?.....if so he may be worthy of my respect

Audie Murphy became an actor and he could lead a platoon, Douglas Fairbanks served under fire in the Navy during WWII.

564 lobo91  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:08:02pm

re: #557 Abu Bin Squid

I kinda said that.
his

I sort of noticed that after the fact.

Long day...

565 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:08:06pm

re: #161 Nevergiveup

NEW YORK (Reuters) - American Express Co (NYSE:AXP - News), battered by mounting credit card losses, is offering $300 to a limited number of U.S. card holders who pay off their balances and close their accounts, the company said on Monday.

[Link: biz.yahoo.com...]

Anybody here get that offer?

No, I just got a change in terms letter for both of my Capital One cards telling me that they're going to hike my rates 5 points by May because of the economy...I'm going to close them and pay them off, because I ain't taking that "offer".

/screw 'em...

566 Steffan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:08:11pm

re: #541 irongrampa

In the runup to the election, I posted to the effect that America has had the knack of having the right person for the right time, in any given situation, Even a cursory look back through our history will bear this out.
The stumbles (Carter) merely show the correct path to take.

For the very first time, I wonder if this still holds true.

I think it does. My bet is that 2010 will be a rerun of 1994.

567 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:08:48pm

re: #556 SanFranciscoZionist

You don't see it as a skill unto itself? At least as much so as playing the clarinet? I can't act, but I like to watch actors do their thing.

not really no

568 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:09:17pm

re: #554 albusteve

that says alot about you....maybe you will get over your name calling...

With the greatest respect, you may have misunderstood.

569 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:09:30pm

re: #567 albusteve

not really no

Huh. Well, OK.

570 Lib Wingnut  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:09:50pm

re: #552 buzzsawmonkey

Despicable? I saw "Frost/Nixon" tonight. That paranoid motherfucker was despicable. For real.

571 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:10:04pm

re: #563 Dark_Falcon

Audie Murphy became an actor and he could lead a platoon, Douglas Fairbanks served under fire in the Navy during WWII.

and I respect them for that...especially Murphy who risked his neck more than once...tremendous guy under pressure

572 UberInfidel67  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:10:31pm

re: #417 Afrocity Dearest new friend of mine...I learned that a long time ago. Hence, the color of ones skin doesn't define who they are. At least it shouldn't. Maybe that is where you got caught up...thinking he would be the "same" as you. But now that we are down to brass tacks, it really is ALL about the content of ones character....not the color of their skin. Don't let it disillusion you and don't feel bad about not being able to support him. You love your country more than you want to play party (or color) politics. I applaud you for that.

573 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:10:35pm
574 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:11:31pm

re: #568 Spare O'Lake

With the greatest respect, you may have misunderstood.

did I?...I thought you called me an asshole because I don't respect Sean Penn

575 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:12:18pm

re: #562 SanFranciscoZionist

Sister Boom Boom is still around...

SFZ! good seeing you..Hey...we are from Cali..I've got a girl at UC Davis and that is home...Transfered here for the job.. I grew up in Yountville..Born outside of Fresno..

576 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:12:19pm
577 strandedsf  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:12:57pm

re: #544 doppelganglander

Sean Penn isn't just an alleged wife beater. He once tied Madonna to a chair for a couple of days over a New Year's holiday and only let her up after hours of begging to be allowed to go to the bathroom. When he let her pee, she climbed out the bathroom window and drove to the Hollywood police station.

True story. They got divorced not long after that.

578 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:13:51pm

“Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine.”


Humphrey Bogart

579 doppelganglander  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:14:04pm

re: #547 Afrocity

Mystic River was good. No?

It might have been. I gave up on him a long time ago. I just find him an intensely unappealing screen presence. There are plenty of moonbat actors whose work I enjoy and I can separate the work from the person. He's just so glaringly, obnoxiously, self-righteously wrong, I can't even look at him.

580 Steffan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:14:11pm

re: #555 Dark_Falcon

Then we need to ensure that that list does not become law. We need to keep our side in line, and peel off some Dems (and on this issue it can be done, perhaps including Hillary's replacement in the Senate). Gun Bans can be stopped, but they have to be fought aggressively to do that.

The Blue Dog Democrats are from gun-owning states. Voting for any kind of gun control would be political suicide for them.

Pelosi and Frank are in safe districts, unfortunately.

581 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:14:15pm
582 Afrocity  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:14:32pm

re: #572 UberInfidel67

Dearest new friend of mine...I learned that a long time ago. Hence, the color of ones skin doesn't define who they are. At least it shouldn't. Maybe that is where you got caught up...thinking he would be the "same" as you. But now that we are down to brass tacks, it really is ALL about the content of ones character....not the color of their skin. Don't let it disillusion you and don't feel bad about not being able to support him. You love your country more than you want to play party (or color) politics. I applaud you for that.

That is one of the nicest things any one has ever said to me. Thank you. I thought the first AA prez would be someone I could tell my kids about and smile. I was wrong.

583 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:15:07pm

re: #570 Lib Wingnut

Despicable? I saw "Frost/Nixon" tonight. That paranoid motherfucker was despicable. For real.

Frost wasn't THAT bad, was he?/
BTW I saw Jim Carrey in Liar Liar last night, and I laughed and cried throughout the movie - what a great performance by a great actor.

584 jamgarr  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:15:43pm

re: #579 doppelganglander

It might have been. I gave up on him a long time ago. I just find him an intensely unappealing screen presence. There are plenty of moonbat actors whose work I enjoy and I can separate the work from the person. He's just so glaringly, obnoxiously, self-righteously wrong, I can't even look at him.


I'm the same way with Susan Serandon, Babs Streisand and Tim Robbins. On the other hand - I'm a big Neil Young fan, so go figure.

585 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:16:45pm

re: #581 buzzsawmonkey

"Call me a Cab(bala)! I'm leaving!"

Otays, your a cab...")

586 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:16:50pm
587 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:17:02pm

re: #575 HoosierHoops

SFZ! good seeing you..Hey...we are from Cali..I've got a girl at UC Davis and that is home...Transfered here for the job.. I grew up in Yountville..Born outside of Fresno..

Howdy. My dad was born in Fresno...he considers himself lucky to have escaped.

Davis is nice, some of my friends have family up there.

588 doppelganglander  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:17:10pm

re: #577 strandedsf

Sean Penn isn't just an alleged wife beater. He once tied Madonna to a chair for a couple of days over a New Year's holiday and only let her up after hours of begging to be allowed to go to the bathroom. When he let her pee, she climbed out the bathroom window and drove to the Hollywood police station.

True story. They got divorced not long after that.

Yikes. Makes you wonder why his current wife, the Princess Bride, sticks with him.

589 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:17:50pm

re: #588 doppelganglander

Yikes. Makes you wonder why his current wife, the Princess Bride, sticks with him.

They split last year then got back together.

590 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:18:26pm
591 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:18:57pm

re: #574 albusteve

did I?...I thought you called me an asshole because I don't respect Sean Penn

Absolutely not! I was pointing out that when people use the term "with respect" in arguments they usually mean to say that their opponent is an asshole but they can't say it.
BTW I think Penn is a lousy actor, quite apart from his arrogance and ignorant politics.

592 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:19:05pm

re: #580 Steffan

The Blue Dog Democrats are from gun-owning states. Voting for any kind of gun control would be political suicide for them.

Pelosi and Frank are in safe districts, unfortunately.

We don't need to get rid of Pelosi and Frank to hammer a anti-gun bill into the ground. We only need a filibuster, and I feel confident we can muster one on this issue.

593 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:19:35pm
594 doppelganglander  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:19:54pm

re: #589 CapeCoddah

They split last year then got back together.

She needs a sit-down with Mandy to straighten her out.

595 Steffan  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:20:22pm

re: #563 Dark_Falcon

Audie Murphy became an actor and he could lead a platoon, Douglas Fairbanks served under fire in the Navy during WWII.

James Stewart was a bomber pilot. He retired from the AF Reserve as a brigadier general in 1968.

596 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:20:47pm

re: #593 ploome hineni

577 strandedsf

why did he tie her up?

/he saw 9 1/2? his good friend Mickey Rourke?

Speaking of Mickey Rourke ...I saw Wrestler and that was one dang depressing movie ...

597 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:21:34pm

re: #582 Afrocity

That is one of the nicest things any one has ever said to me. Thank you. I thought the first AA prez would be someone I could tell my kids about and smile. I was wrong.

Bella Abzug once said that the goal of feminism was not that a woman who was twice as good as any man could get ahead, but that a female schlemiel could be promoted as fast as a male schlemiel.

I understand the disappointment, but I think it does say something very good about the American people that we have reached a point where we will elect a disappointing black candidate just as readily as a disappointing white candidate.

That said, this lifelong Democrat still can't stop pausing in the street every so often, screaming "HILLARY! OH GOD, HILLARY!" and bursting into tears, so I can hardly blame you for getting a little depressed.

//

598 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:21:51pm

re: #587 SanFranciscoZionist

Howdy. My dad was born in Fresno...he considers himself lucky to have escaped.

Davis is nice, some of my friends have family up there.

Davis is nice isn't it? She is commuting from the Vacaville to school this year..We have lots of family there...

599 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:21:53pm

re: #578 Dustyvet

“Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine.”

Humphrey Bogart

You dirty, double-crossing rat.
James Cagney

600 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:21:55pm

re: #591 Spare O'Lake

Absolutely not! I was pointing out that when people use the term "with respect" in arguments they usually mean to say that their opponent is an asshole but they can't say it.
BTW I think Penn is a lousy actor, quite apart from his arrogance and ignorant politics.

I'm glad that's cleared up...I can be pretty dense! but I'm working on being denseless...

601 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:22:04pm
602 UberInfidel67  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:22:26pm

re: #582 Afrocity
When we elect a black man for President who isn't carrying a chip on his shoulder the size of the Kabaa, that will make you proud. As it stand, this "man" now is playing up the hype about "victim" status and the masses are eating it up. Rest assured, the day will come. I promise.

603 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:23:09pm

re: #598 HoosierHoops

Davis is nice isn't it? She is commuting from the Vacaville to school this year..We have lots of family there...


Crap! PIMF

604 albusteve  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:23:21pm

re: #595 Steffan

James Stewart was a bomber pilot. He retired from the AF Reserve as a brigadier general in 1968.

Clark Gable pimped for the Army

605 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:23:46pm

re: #603 HoosierHoops

Crap! PIMF

I got the concept...

606 tradewind  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:25:36pm

Too bad the wire transfer can't get re-routed to the IDF instead.
..note to Netanyahu... see if you can't hire Chloe away from her free-lance gig and put her on it).

607 cincinnati_kid37  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:26:59pm

re: #535 CapeCoddah

I agree with that, but, I will NEVER be ashamed of being American. The shame and the blame go to our lying, thieving elected officials. O has only been in office a month. Soon, he will be texting President Bush to find out how he kept his numbers so high.

I too will continue to fight the good fight. What else could one do? So, like a variant of Chevy Chase's line on weekend update "I'm an American, and you're not."

Not you of course.

608 tradewind  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:27:55pm

re: #584 jamgarr

When there are mitigating factors like actual talent,(Neal Young) they get a pass.
Sarandon.... Robbins..... not so much.

609 CapeCoddah  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:28:16pm

re: #607 cincinnati_kid37

I too will continue to fight the good fight. What else could one do? So, like a variant of Chevy Chase's line on weekend update "I'm an American, and you're not."

Not you of course.

LOL, I get it.

610 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:29:07pm

re: #503 Abu Bin Squid

I called it at #468.
Pay up kids.

gclaghorn
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Recent comments (were his/her last)

This is his second boot iirc, think he begged to come back last time and Charles was gracious.

611 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:29:43pm

re: #606 tradewind

Too bad the wire transfer can't get re-routed to the IDF instead.
..note to Netanyahu... see if you can't hire Chloe away from her free-lance gig and put her on it).

Nice 24 reference. Next week's double episode looks to be a must see.

612 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:30:39pm
613 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:32:03pm

re: #604 albusteve

Clark Gable pimped for the Army

They Also Served:
Actors with WWII Military Records


[Link: www.jodavidsmeyer.com...]

614 EaterOfFood  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:32:19pm

My Dad is a Democrat, but recently he told me that he was sick of the tolerance of anti-semitism on the far left. I already stepped away from the dark side after 9/11, and nothing, not even the religious wrong's hysterics on gay marriage, will get me to go back to them.

615 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:33:43pm

re: #612 ploome hineni

I wonder if he is dating?

LOL! Seriously..Do you want a soldier that prefers thongs?
Just send him to SF...They need the stimulus

616 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:36:58pm

re: #615 HoosierHoops

LOL! Seriously..Do you want a soldier that prefers thongs?
Just send him to SF...They need the stimulus

They arrested Klinger?...:)

/S

617 donna quixote  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:37:04pm

Let's give them Illinois. Maybe it would be a mutual learning experience for the politicians there and Hamas. We might also throw in one of the American 'big three' car companies. If nothing else, they could get rid of the current inventory by shipping them to the middle east.
Of course, once Illinois is given to Hamas, the state would not be a part of the United States and couldn't share in any of the give-aways currently offered by the president.

618 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:39:08pm

re: #615 HoosierHoops

LOL! Seriously..Do you want a soldier that prefers thongs?
Just send him to SF...They need the stimulus

Well that puts the "Don't talk, don't tell policy" right out the window...:)


/S

619 tradewind  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:39:45pm

re: #617 donna quixote

They have a diaspora already in Michigan (HQ Detroitistan and Abu Flint).... give them that state, after you slice off the UP....

620 Mr Spiffy  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:40:20pm

re: #79 Nevergiveup

I wish you were right, but most of my family are liberal and Jewish and they still don't get it. They think I'm the weird one.

an upding for the weird ones everywhere

621 formercorpsman  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:40:49pm

re: #510 Mich-again

Yes. Yes. Yes.

These bastards are caught in Philadelphia on an FBI wiretap, collecting money for our demise.

Now we hand it over freely.

622 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:41:10pm

US taxpayers don't just pay for the direct aid given to UNRWA, they also do so indirectly by giving a tax break for all the private donations.

Send your tax deductible donations to Hamas UNRWA here!

The Friends of UNRWA Association, Inc. is a 501c(3) organization. All donations to the Friends of UNRWA Association, Inc. are tax-deductible to the fullest extent allowed by law.
623 formercorpsman  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:41:14pm

re: #612 ploome hineni

You saw that too?

624 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:41:29pm

re: #617 donna quixote

Let's give them Illinois. Maybe it would be a mutual learning experience for the politicians there and Hamas. We might also throw in one of the American 'big three' car companies. If nothing else, they could get rid of the current inventory by shipping them to the middle east.
Of course, once Illinois is given to Hamas, the state would not be a part of the United States and couldn't share in any of the give-aways currently offered by the president.

Not funny. I live in Illinois and so does Afrocity, 3 Wood, Retired_Vet, and several other lizards. Why would you want to hurt us in such a way?

625 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:42:28pm

Shortly after class, an economics student approaches his economics professor and says, "I don't understand this stimulus bill. Can you explain it to me?"
The professor replied, "I don't have any time to explain it at my office, but if you come over to my house on Saturday and help me with my weekend project, I'll be glad to explain it to you." The student
agreed.
At the agreed-upon time, the student showed up at the professor's house. The professor stated that the weekend project involved his backyard pool.
They both went out back to the pool, and the professor handed the student a bucket. Demonstrating with his own bucket, the professor said, "First, go over to the deep end, and fill your bucket with
as much water as you can." The student did as he was instructed.
The professor then continued, "Follow me over to the shallow end, and then dump all the water from your bucket into it." The student was naturally confused, but did as he was told.
The professor then explained they were going to do this many more times, and began walking back to the deep end of the pool.
The confused student asked, "Excuse me, but why are we doing this?"
The professor matter-of-factly stated that he was trying to make the shallow end much deeper.
The student didn't think the economics professor was serious, but figured that he would find out the real story soon enough.
However, after the 6th trip between the shallow end and the deep end, the student began to become worried that his economics professor had gone mad. The student finally replied, "All we're doing is
wasting valuable time and effort on unproductive pursuits. Even worse, when this process is all over, everything will be at the same level it was before, so all you'll really have accomplished is the destruction of what could have been truly productive action!"
The professor put down his bucket and replied with a smile, "Congratulations. You now understand the stimulus bill."

626 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:42:55pm

re: #618 Dustyvet

Well that puts the "Don't talk, don't tell policy" right out the window...:)

/S

At least we have solders that look FABULOUS!
LOL

627 tradewind  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:44:14pm

re: #612 ploome hineni

They found him in Boulder? Well... his instincts were right on.... I'm shocked they didn't pat him on the back and wish him Godspeed.

628 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:44:39pm

re: #626 HoosierHoops

At least we have solders that look FABULOUS!
LOL

*THUD*...

629 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:46:59pm

re: #627 tradewind

They found him in Boulder? Well... his instincts were right on.... I'm shocked they didn't pat him on the back and wish him Godspeed.

Not sure if they still doing it, but Police Officers used to be paid a $50.00 bounty on Deserters.

630 FrumiousFalafel  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:47:16pm

This article referenced by this URL at the Wall Street Journal's European Journal makes the single most cogent, demographic, and mathematically firm argument as to why no one should ever be donating to UNRWA (aka the Gaza Welfare Agency) irrespective of your love or hate of these people.

The argument bypasses all the wondrous and poignant political points about how every other refugee in the world, in all time and space, has been and is being treated in a grossly different way (e.g. the "endless-generation rule" for those familiar with UNRWA's delightfully distorted view on what constitutes a "refugee").

The argument utterly stays away from traditional "Conservative" views regarding why an unending and unfettered welfare system ultimately harms the people it aims to help as opposed to alternative methods for aiding them stand on their own two feet.

The argument completely ignores any attempt to either "solve" or even take sides on the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

No, what this focused, incisive, and brilliant article does do is to quickly cut with the sharpest of Knives down to the fundamental crux of how the UNRWA's policy of limitless (in time and amount) "donations" to the Palestinians in Gaza leads directly and in no uncertain way to the guaranteed perpetuation of violence -- and here's the beauty -- that's violence period -- whether it be internecine or against Israel.

The article is so informative that you cannot help but have a complete catharsis on the subject as it will resonate strongly with everything you already know about the nature of young men.

And finally, it adds a bold and perhaps even unintended emphasis to Charles' brilliant knack for pointing out Obama's contribution to this quixotic quagmire.

The argument -- the article -- is quite simply unable to be rebutted! And I thank Charles for linking Obama with this highly perverse phenomena.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

--(the) Frumious Falafel

631 formercorpsman  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:47:31pm

re: #602 UberInfidel67

You know, I can't find my comment from some months back.

More or less, I can truly appreciate the historic nature of our country having elected someone other than another white male as President.

I am saddened, Obama had to be the person in that position.

My judgment of someone is not only by their actions, but the company they keep as well.

632 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:48:24pm

re: #628 Dustyvet

*THUD*...

LOL I can't stop laughing..that was funny wasn't it Dusty?

633 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:48:58pm
634 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:49:25pm

re: #632 HoosierHoops

LOL I can't stop laughing..that was funny wasn't it Dusty?

It was...and you own me a new keyboard and the cat needs a towel...:)

635 formercorpsman  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:49:29pm

re: #632 HoosierHoops

No panty lines in his dress blues.

636 formercorpsman  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:50:04pm

re: #635 formercorpsman

Pantywaist.

637 Sheepdogess  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:50:21pm

re: #613 Dustyvet

They Also Served:
Actors with WWII Military Records

[Link: www.jodavidsmeyer.com...]

Thank you for that post.

638 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:50:32pm

The tax exempt status of all the 501c(3) organizations troubles me as a taxpayer. Who are all these organizations and why should US taxpayers support them all. I am sure that most are benevolent and well intentioned. But I'm just as sure that there are plenty of hucksters, religious fanatics, crooks, and outright enemies of America that feed at the trough as well.

I say just blow it up. If people want to donate their income to their favorite charity, fine. Send every penny you got. But I don't see any good reason why US taxpayers should subsidize them.

639 elrushbuni  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:50:37pm

And Glenn Beck says it's not Obama -- talk about a government gone out of control...
LOOK at what Obama is doing taking care of the world and the enemy first before he takes care of his own country. Tea Party time.

640 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:50:49pm

re: #637 Sheepdogess

Thank you for that post.

Your very welcome...:)

641 solomonpanting  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:51:27pm

re: #625 Dustyvet

Thanks for the details.

642 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:52:50pm

re: #630 FrumiousFalafel

Upding! Thank you for reminding my about this article. It truly does explain the problem in a way that cannot be refuted.

643 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:53:03pm
644 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:55:13pm
645 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 7:56:22pm

re: #634 Dustyvet

It was...and you own me a new keyboard and the cat needs a towel...:)

When 1st Platoon got home from Iraq..we rented a beach house in Oceanside for them.. I came down stairs the first morning with 2 Marines in their underwear cooking breakfast..Cigs hanging out their mouths drinking beer..
They served up breakfast and insulted each other in a most classic fashion..
Finally it ends with one marine on the floor yelling 'I got nothing!' Too much fun..I love the Marines.

646 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:04:47pm

re: #645 HoosierHoops

When I took my pre-induction physical in 1967, we where all sent to the dressing room and told to strip to our undershorts. Place all our valuables in a cloth bag and hang it around our necks. One guy showed up wearing pink nickers, and I guess he thought the military would tell him to dress and go home. WRONG...they made him go through the whole thing in those pink nickers...He was in line about three ahead of me in line when his paper work was stamped 1-A...
I still think about that poor idiot...

647 elrushbuni  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:06:09pm

Well so long as we keep this up, we are going the way of Britannia. We should have taken the clue from the election results there. God help us all.

648 Dasher  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:06:15pm

Evidently the Obama administration doesn't understand the concept of money being fungible. A billion for humanitarian aid equals a billion for rockets / bombs / suicide vests.

649 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:07:53pm

re: #648 Dasher

Evidently the Obama administration doesn't understand the concept of money being fungible. A billion for humanitarian aid equals a billion for rockets / bombs / suicide vests.

Hamas swiss bank accounts...

650 Summersong  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:09:55pm

Not in my name, Obama, ya rat bastard!

651 Gumby  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:13:52pm

re: #41 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Were you ever in the Suzy Wong Bar in Wanchai?
How 'bout Pauline's in Olongapo?
/heh ... you sound like the voice of experience

I walked by Pauline's in Olongapo City, does that count? I flew down to Subic (Courtesy of USN) from Clark AB to buy a 'state of the art' quadraphonic stereo system. It seemed like the Navy was the only source of top of the line audio equipment in those days.

PS, I can be accused of having a voice of experience. Remind me, sometime, to relay a story to you about the 'world famous sleaze bar outside Angeles City called "Fire Empire". One could catch some serious STD's just walking past the front door! Well I exaggerate just a little.

652 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:16:30pm

This is nothing new with the man. One of his first acts after being anointed and enthroned to fix our domestic problems was to start funding again foreign abortions.

653 elrushbuni  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:18:17pm

re: #648 Dasher

Evidently the Obama administration doesn't understand the concept of money being fungible. A billion for humanitarian aid equals a billion for rockets / bombs / suicide vests.

What pisses me off is that the "youths" in Gaza view labor as beneath their dignity so they relegate themselves to the streets to make trouble instead of getting jobs. If they would get up off of their asses and construct their own damn ultities, irrigation, gardens, etc. they wouldn't need so many handouts -- but they DEPEND on these handouts to live. Kind of like the welfare recipients in America, why get a job and a life when you can get handouts?

654 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:20:14pm
655 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:21:23pm

re: #653 elrushbuni

And we are about to have a riot here in WA State since the politicians are talking about cutting back on those handouts to cover the budget shortfall. Cutting public services such as police and road repair was easy and done without even batting an eyelid, yet the politicos still want higher taxes to pay for less work.

656 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:24:06pm

re: #648 Dasher

Evidently the Obama administration doesn't understand the concept of money being fungible. A billion for humanitarian aid equals a billion for rockets / bombs / suicide vests.

O and his cronies DO understand, they are just hoping most voters either don't know about fungibility, give a crap either way, or think giving Hamas buttloads of cash to buy weapons is good since Hamas will then get rid of that horrible Israel and Jews.

657 Wendya  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:29:11pm

re: #522 lobo91

I'm surprised. I only own one weapon on the list of those that would be explicitly banned: a Kel-Tec Sub 2000. It's kind of a nifty little gun. Folds in half, fits into a briefcase-sized carrying case, takes the same magazines as my Glocks.

Not really something I'd use to go on a major crime spree, though.

I'm sure they'll add my M1A to the list at some point.

Sigh.

your M1A would fall under the AG's prerogative, as would all of my shotguns.

Basically, the only thing we'd have that's legal are our revolvers and my plinker.

Even though these attempts piss me off, I don't believe Obama is stupid enough to let this go through. He's not going to attack all taxpayers AND 80 million firearms owners.

658 jaunte  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:33:35pm

re: #657 Wendya

He's not going to attack all taxpayers AND 80 million firearms owners.

He'll just delegate the work, as customary.

659 Flavia  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:35:29pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Impeachment is only for crimes. Not because you don't like somebody.

I think aiding terrorism is a crime.
But I suppose since he worded it differently,
there's nothing we can do.

660 day734380  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:37:32pm

Maybe it's Foreign campaign pay-back time...
(And maybe he's trying to meet the expiration date.)

While America is left, to foot the bill...

$1.74 million deadbeats of the day: Obama and the DNC

Philly to Obama: Hey, you owe us money, too!

There is nothing which leads me to believe that B.H.O. cares the slightest bit for America... To me, it looks like he's taking her down...

661 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 8:42:17pm

re: #660 day734380

Maybe it's Foreign campaign pay-back time...
(And maybe he's trying to meet the expiration date.)

While America is left, to foot the bill...

$1.74 million deadbeats of the day: Obama and the DNC

Philly to Obama: Hey, you owe us money, too!

There is nothing which leads me to believe that B.H.O. cares the slightest bit for America... To me, it looks like he's taking her down...

It looks that way to me, too. Obama doesn't like his country that much.

662 Flavia  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 9:01:16pm

re: #132 Teacake!

Hopefully hamas will fuck up and try something that Israel will have no other options than to wipe them off the map for a change

Except for that "whole world coming down on Israel like a ton of bricks" thing & stopping her that happened in Lebanon & Gaza...

(I predicted what you did after the Gaza pull-out (ok, not here) - and I was right, except for the "Israel getting to solve the problem" part of it)

663 Flavia  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 9:07:32pm

re: #193 Opinionated

News from the parallel universe of the Arab Middle East.

The crown prince of Bahrain said on Monday Britain was too pro-Israel in its outlook,

Possibly he heard this:

[Link: thejc.com...]

[begin quote]

Britain’s Foreign Office Minister Lord Malloch-Brown said on Tuesday: “If we can’t go forward now, we will withdraw. I was at the first conference. I have never seen such a disgraceful event in quite a long international life.”

Later, he said: “There are red lines that need to be made for us to participate. The US is in the same position as most of Europe. We are not going to stand idly by and allow this racist stuff to get through and be seen as acceptable. We are not going to have it.”

[end quote]

I'm looking for pork in the treetops, come morning (cyberpoints to those who can tell exactly from whence that line came!)

664 day734380  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 9:11:01pm

Such potential for tyranny...
But, we've stood for Freedom, and accomplished much... This very type of day has come and gone before... And we just stood stronger.

Iraqis hold the Beacon along with hundreds of others across the globe... Not to see our hopes shattered, today.


B.H.O. trailing in the missteps of Carter... And you know the door hit him in the (buttocks) on the way out...

665 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 9:24:31pm

Obama is a dumbass.

666 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 10:57:14pm
667 mrshankly01  Mon, Feb 23, 2009 11:14:36pm

I know I am late, I just caught this from Instapundit, but what a great, succinct post. Too bad it has to be about such a bad move by the president.

668 gegenkritik  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 3:41:55am

It's way too less. Here are recent pictures from the Gaza-strip:

[Link: community.livejournal.com...]

Full food-shops, electronic-stores, Counterstrike-playing kids - it's truly a concentration camp.
Please send over more money, President Obama.

669 gonecamping  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 5:02:01am

I'd like a box on my tax form to check off (similar to the one about contributing to the presidential election) saying I DON'T WANT TO SEND ANY OF MY TAX MONEY TO TERRORISTS!

670 gonecamping  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 5:04:30am

At least the drunken sailors spend thier own hard earned money...


re: #15 grahamski

This fool is spending like a drunken sailor!....
My apologies to drunken sailors.

671 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 6:17:59am

I just sent this email to my senator from Connecticut:
========================================

Dear Senator Lieberman ... I am extremely concerned about President Obama's desire to give nearly one billion dollars to "rebuild" Gaza after Israel's recently concluded military action in that terrorist enclave. Here is a link with the information:

[Link: www.mererhetoric.com...]

I see no chance of this money being used for anything other than the furthering of HAMAS' goal of killing Jews and trying to eliminate Israel. Gaza has received plenty of aid over the years and has not used it to help its citizens. This is an outrage and I hope you will speak out against this and try to stop it. President Obama has been very forgiving towards you after you (correctly) supported Senator McCain in the election. And I am pleased that he has taken that position. But you cannot give him a free pass when it comes to accepting outrageous decisions such as this one. I have great faith in you and I hope you will use your influence to stop this madness.

Thank you for being one of the last sane Democrats!

Sincerely Yours,

672 Ron Shaw  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:18:59am

re: #184 Last Mohican

Did you just say a 25% cut in the military budget? Now?

I really, really hope you're just making that up and it has no basis in reality.

Nope, heard it on the radio yesterday. It is needed according to Frank to help pay for the stimulus bill and such.

673 mongoose  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:57:04am

re: #393 CapeCoddah

My grandparents came here from Italy. Every time I am asked to indicate my race, I put down "Native American". That is what I am. I was born here, in America. It really pisses questioners off when I put that down, but, too damed bad. I AM a native American.

I do the same thing. For the same reason.

674 right_on_target  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 10:20:17am

New radar evading tunnel technology is expensive.
/

675 dhimmishelter  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 2:28:47pm

Sorry to be so late. But I just heard this on Medved's show and after I awoke from my fainting spell, had to write immediately to my two twisted sister senators; Barbara Boxhead and Dianne (can't keep a secret) Frankenstein, in protest of sending almost 1 billion dollars of tax money to a group of misogynistic, murderous, sociopaths (aka Hamas). They still send rockets into Israel, and he rewards them by sending almost a billion dollars? Huh? Words fail me.

Great job to all the Obama supporters, and those American Jews and ostensible supporters of Israel (and life in general) that supported him so overwhelmingly, you are now reaping the whirlwind of putting a far left Acorn graduate into the presidency.

This is beyond depressing. Time for Israel to become more, not less unilateral since it appears that Jimmy Carter is advising the messiah on middle east policy.


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