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In the midst of the word he was trying to say,
In the midst of his laughter and glee,
He had softly and suddenly vanished away —
For the Snark was a Boojum, you see.

Lewis Carroll

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1 Erik The Red  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:31:15pm

Morning Lizards. I hope that the new thread will change the tempo of the postings.

2 BlueCanuck  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:31:45pm

Snarks and Boojums. So you elected a snark and wound up with a Boojum.

/Lewis Carrol was pretty good.

3 Confuzed  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:31:58pm


Old America: I suffer, so my children won’t.
Nouveau Америка: My children will suffer, so I don’t.

4 Confuzed  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:32:42pm

“When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour.”- George Washington

“Pay attention everyone and remember, after that pin is pulled, Mr. Hand Grenade is no longer our friend.” - Unknown

5 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:34:21pm

Looks like there’s lots of room to put up my feet in this thread.

I got the ‘Tuesday’ part down, but is it ‘Fat’ or ‘Phat’?

6 BlueCanuck  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:36:55pm

re: #5 Fenway_Nation

Depends on what over part you got covered. For some reason I don’t think it’s ph.

7 blackpajamas  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:37:04pm
8 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:40:25pm

“He remarked to me then,” said that mildest of men,
“If your Snark be a Snark, that is right.
Fetch it home by all means — you may serve it with greens,
And it’s handy for striking a light.

“But oh, beamish nephew, beware of the day,
If your Snark be a Boojum! For then
You will softly and suddenly vanish away,
And never be met with again!”

who knew?

9 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:41:45pm

re: #7 blackpajamas


Is this the same clown who’s pretty much ensured crippling inflation and ChiComs or the UAE owning all of our (and by extention, our children’s) debt in just under 30 days on the job?

10 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:42:06pm

Took the better part of the evening, but finally got in a game of 40K with my complete Imperial Guard force and kicked some ass. Nice when everything works the way it should.

11 blackpajamas  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:42:09pm

____ The Chamber Made Man ____

I’ve come here tonight not only to address the distinguished men and women in this great chamber

Who are these distinguished people? What have they done to earn such distinction, the golden ear-mark laurels of redistributive redemption?

Confess, please! Especially that Dodd one.

And what of a great chamber, the venal void, this corrupt cavity of depravity?

but to speak frankly and directly to the men and women who sent us here.

The Che Guevara fan club, econo-medicinal shamen of the one true stimu-leaf?

I know that for many Americans watching right now, the state of our economy is a concern that rises above all others.

Our economy? How exactly do you participate again, selling self-help books for narcissists?

And rightly so.

I knew it.

If you haven’t been personally affected by this recession, you probably know someone who has —a friend, a neighbor, a member of your family.

You’re right, we have been seriously affected, getting great bargains when the prices of goods go down, since we saw the shenanigans coming and saved our money!

That is, at least until the inflation comes, the one to which you signed your name in history.

You don’t need to hear another list of statistics to know that our economy is in crisis, because you live it every day.

If living the crisis means I get deals every day, long live the crisis!

It’s the worry you wake up with and the source of sleepless nights.

A giant Al Franken roaming the earth?

It’s the job you thought you’d retire from but now have lost;

The job from which you thought you’d retire — it’s the grammar stupid.

Also, which exact job have a I lost? Maybe I can get your speech writer’s job, the mental vacancy sign is ON.

the business you built your dreams upon that’s now hanging by a thread;

There are always customers for my business. It’s got to do with human nature, something over which even the likes of Messianic wisdom may not have complete control.

the college acceptance letter your child had to put back in the envelope.

What’s wrong with community college? It’s about $20 a credit and they teach the algebra that the High Schools failed to teach.

The impact of this recession is real, and it is everywhere.

We can get a bargain everywhere! Woohoo!

(end part 1)

12 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:43:44pm

re: #6 BlueCanuck

Hey! I resemble that remark…

13 TheMatrix31  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:44:06pm

re: #7 blackpajamas

“Our children will compete for jobs in a global economy that too many of our schools do not prepare them for.”

Some clown-biter who ends his sentences with prepositions

Hmm…..I could have sworn he said no earmarks in the bill, and the word earmark doesnt appear in that transcript.

14 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:44:17pm

Never Enough

Government Spending: Did anyone really think $787 billion would be enough to quench the Democratic Congress’ thirst for play money from the taxpayers? Now they want $410 billion more.

In addition to solar water heaters for rural Puerto Rico and the Raul Alvarez Golf Course in Austin, Texas, Obama administration sources say the U.S. is also planning to relieve taxpayers of $900 million for Gaza, much of which can be expected to land in the pockets of the terrorist group Hamas, which runs the region.

To a family being foreclosed on, or a businesswoman forced by tough times to close up shop, this doesn’t exactly signal that Uncle Sam is in solidarity with you.

/mind you this is in addition to last week’s Porkapalooza and before Obama’s budget hits on Thursday

15 wiffersnapper  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:45:06pm

What are you doing, Snark Snark!

16 blackpajamas  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:45:18pm

But while our economy may be weakened and our confidence shaken;

Bureaucratic interference is the weak spot in the economy.

though we are living through difficult and uncertain times, tonight I want every American to know this: We will rebuild, we will recover and the United States of America will emerge stronger than before.

What’s so uncertain? California’s kids are the stupidest ever produced in a modern democracy. There are at least half a generation’s worth of spell-bound economic illiterates in the labor pipeline waiting for the worker’s paradise of their parents basement, lined with the trappings of the new American success story called their government job, and this is the economic turbo charged engine of ingenuity!

The weight of this crisis will not determine the destiny of this nation.

Only the One will determine the destiny of the nation.

Faster than a spending locomotive! Stronger than crisis!

Able to leap a towering stimulus in a single bound! (or rubber stamp).

The answers to our problems don’t lie beyond our reach.

What could possibly lie beyond a televised politician’s reach?

They exist in our laboratories and universities, in our fields and our factories, in the imaginations of our entrepreneurs

Frankenstimulus! It walks the earth!

and the pride of the hardest-working people on Earth.

The hardest working people on earth work in places called sweat shops, and in the Swiss alps, alive with the sound of money-laundering music.

Those qualities that have made America the greatest force of progress and prosperity in human history we still possess in ample measure.

What do you mean we? Speak for yourself. My capacity is not bound by your measure.

What is required now is for this country to pull together,

To the galley, slaves!

confront boldly the challenges we face, and take responsibility for our future once more.

Take responsibility for our future by financially molesting our children and grand children with salacious debt?

Now, if we’re honest with ourselves, we’ll admit that for too long we have not always met these responsibilities—as a government or as a people.

What responsibilities? You failed to mention one single responsibility!

What responsibilities does government have — besides ordering judges to tear up real estate contracts?

Are you going to rename the Bill of Rights to the “(Credit) Bill of Responsibilities”?

(end part 2)

17 BlueCanuck  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:46:11pm

re: #12 Fenway_Nation

As one friend told me once he was told to get in shape. He pointed out that round was a shape.

18 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:47:25pm

Gitmo East

War On Terror: The administration says the detainees at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan cannot challenge their detentions and have no constitutional rights. Wouldn’t that be a perfect place to send the Gitmo jihadists?

/seriously, what an awesome plan!

19 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:47:39pm

re: #17 BlueCanuck

As one friend told me once he was told to get in shape. He pointed out that round was a shape.


Heh….I said something about getting in shape and qualified that w/ ‘But then again, pear is a shape’.

20 blackpajamas  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:47:44pm

I say this not to lay blame or look backwards, but because it is only by understanding how we arrived at this moment that we’ll be able to lift ourselves out of this predicament.

How we arrived at Chris Dodd? Barney Frank? Charlie “Three Chins” Rangel? Little Timmy the Tax Evader? The most distinguished of the great chamber!

The fact is, our economy did not fall into decline overnight.

Correct, it won’t be able to do that until the stimulus provides all illegals their low-interest tax payer sponsored mortgages.

Nor did all of our problems begin when the housing market collapsed or the stock market sank.

Tell me little historian, when did the Iranian revolution start?

We have known for decades that our survival depends on finding new sources of energy.

Cigarettes that don’t cause cancer?

Yet we import more oil today than ever before.

Sorry we can’t all levitate to work, despite our proximity to your magnificence.

The cost of health care eats up more and more of our savings each year, yet we keep delaying reform.

If George Soros wants to euthanize Ted Kennedy, who are we to stop him?

Our children will compete for jobs in a global economy that too many of our schools do not prepare them for.

Since somebody from Harvard likes to end their sentences with prepositions, however shall we unwashed masses compete?

And though all these challenges went unsolved, we still managed to spend more money and pile up more debt, both as individuals and through our government, than ever before.

What do you mean we? Speak for yourself clown-bait.

In other words, we have lived through an era where too often, short-term gains were prized over long-term prosperity;

Like the GM jobs bank, the union contract, and legislation rammed down the taxpayers throats before even the law-makers had time to read it?

where we failed to look beyond the next payment, the next quarter or the next election.

The Generational Theft Act?

A surplus became an excuse to transfer wealth to the wealthy instead of an opportunity to invest in our future.

Citigroup?

Regulations were gutted for the sake of a quick profit at the expense of a healthy market.

The Community Reinvestment Act?

The McCain-Feingold redistribution of free speech?

The failure to build the border wall, to stop illegals from their manifest home-loan destiny?

(end part 3)

21 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:49:30pm

re: #17 BlueCanuck

As one friend told me once he was told to get in shape. He pointed out that round was a shape.

LOL, had a moonbat who kept blathering about “people of color” for a good 30 minutes until I got fed up and pointed out white is a color as well. She went away.

22 blackpajamas  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:49:40pm

People bought homes they knew they couldn’t afford from banks and lenders who pushed those bad loans anyway.

If you care that much, why don’t you put them in jail?

And all the while, critical debates and difficult decisions were put off for some other time on some other day.

Tell us what you know about Chris Dodd.

Well that day of reckoning has arrived, and the time to take charge of our future is here.

Then invite Congress to convene an investigation into Chris Dodd’s malfeasance, and get the Swiss money launderers to cough up the names of the American tax evaders so the IRS can do it’s job.

If you don’t have the stones to get the Swiss to do your bidding, how do you expect to deal with Iran and North Korea?

Now is the time to act boldly and wisely—to not only revive this economy, but to build a new foundation for lasting prosperity.

Boldly and wisely, the thinking man’s deodorant. Before you splurge on the new foundation, why don’t you clean the Congressional cage-liner first?

Now is the time to jump start job creation, restart lending and invest in areas like energy, health care and education that will grow our economy, even as we make hard choices to bring our deficit down.

Hard choices? You mean breaking the unions? Telling the baby boomers that they will get old and croak, no matter how much you raise the Social Security tax?

That is what my economic agenda is designed to do, and that’s what I’d like to talk to you about tonight.

All that blather, and you’ve just gotten started. Thanks pal, I’ve got something more productive to do, in a place called the real world.

(the end — my friend).

23 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:50:14pm

re: #20 blackpajamas

You’re not going to comment of every sentence of an hour long speech.

/are you?

24 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:50:49pm

damn….. someone’s on a roll…………..

GET SOME!

25 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:51:36pm

re: #22 blackpajamas

(the end — my friend).

/okay, nevermind

26 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:51:41pm

Got a new car antennea for my XM radio (was kinda putting that off until their financial situation became a little less ambiguous) today. As much as I’m digging the right-wing talk radio offerings I can get on the regular AM band, it’s also time for spring training and the stretch run for the Stanley Cup playoffs…..

27 BlueCanuck  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:53:23pm

re: #23 Killian Bundy

Well I liked how teh One™ promised 15 billion to alternative energy. I thought to myself WTF? That’s no where near enough to get any proper research done. Wind and solar energy resources at a 100% efficiency would only contribute at the max maybe 10% to the national grid. Some one needs to teach him about proper alternatives and more meaningful funding.

28 UncleSam  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:54:51pm

re: #7 blackpajamas

“Our children will compete for jobs in a global economy that too many of our schools do not prepare them for.”

Some clown-biter who ends his sentences with prepositions

“Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.”
Winston Churchill

29 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:56:30pm

re: #27 BlueCanuck

I’m 61 and my hubby is 58 but not real well lately. We’re self employed. Think we can get some kind of windmill jobs or something? We can’t afford to retire.

30 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:56:40pm

Pork One

/damn, IBD is on a roll today!

31 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:57:01pm

re: #27 BlueCanuck

No community organizer worth their salt would want to give hard-working Americans’ taxpayer money to those ignorant hicks in Alaska or Alberta.

32 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:58:37pm

re: #27 BlueCanuck

Some one needs to teach him about proper alternatives and more meaningful funding.

Good luck with that.

/it’s too late to close the barn door, the whole barn’s gone

33 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:59:26pm

re: #31 Fenway_Nation

No community organizer worth their salt would want to give hard-working Americans’ taxpayer money to those ignorant hicks in Alaska or Alberta.

I’m confused. Is Alberta one of the 57 states?

34 UncleSam  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:59:26pm

Did The Messiah even mention nuclear power plants as a solution to energy self-sufficiency?
Not that I noticed, but I missed some of the speech.
I doubt it, though, because he’s owned by the radical eco-nuts.

35 BlueCanuck  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:59:33pm

re: #29 Pvt Bin Jammin

Unfortunately modern windmills don’t need live in help. Curse the day of the computers. :)

36 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:59:37pm

re: #32 Killian Bundy


So does that mean we’ll be saved by the Amish?

37 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:00:36am

re: #31 Fenway_Nation

No community organizer worth their salt would want to give hard-working Americans’ taxpayer money to those ignorant hicks in Alaska or Alberta.

Well why not? They give it to the oil ticks? Besides I was thinking about tech that americans can develop to help themselves and in the long run help everyone else.

38 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:01:37am

re: #34 UncleSam

No mention of nuclear whatsoever. All wind, solar, clean coal, and electric cars. I think he’s been drinking his unicorn farts.

39 freetoken  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:02:00am

re: #34 UncleSam

Did The Messiah even mention nuclear power plants as a solution to energy self-sufficiency?
Not that I noticed, but I missed some of the speech.
I doubt it, though, because he’s owned by the radical eco-nuts.

FYI, Obama came under some flack during the primaries because the anti-nuke crowd didn’t like how he supported the IL nuclear industry.

Also, Sec. of Energy Chu quite explicitly, at his confirmation hearing, pointed out the need to move forward with both “breeder” reactors as well as thorium-type reactors.

40 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:03:14am

re: #35 BlueCanuck

Unfortunately modern windmills don’t need live in help. Curse the day of the computers. :)

Solar, that’s the ticket. LOL I think it is covered in the hubby’s contractor license. I just “love” my solar powered front yard lights….and we’re in California.

41 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:05:25am

re: #40 Pvt Bin Jammin

Solar, that’s the ticket. LOL I think it is covered in the hubby’s contractor license. I just “love” my solar powered front yard lights….and we’re in California.

I think my solar powered flashlight was one of the ‘Just Like As Seen on TV Items’ I got for christmas a few years ago…

42 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:07:46am

re: #41 Fenway_Nation

I think my solar powered flashlight was one of the ‘Just Like As Seen on TV Items’ I got for christmas a few years ago…

I missed that. They should give it away free if you order two “Snuggies”. LOL

43 deymond  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:08:02am

re: #13 TheMatrix31

I tried to look up a comment about automakers in the transcript and couldn’t find it as well, so I think he was departing from that version frequently. Maybe that was why Boehner was late standing up on some applause lines?

44 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:08:12am

My favorite work of Lewis Carroll’s:

45 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:09:16am

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Actually, in art school, you are taught that white is a color, and black is not. White reflects all colors of the visible light spectrum, where black absorbs all colors, reflecting none.

That said, I don’t know how many tubes of gray I went through.

46 YankeeBoy  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:09:55am

morning Lizards…still lauphing at the Obama haho pic.

47 UncleSam  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:10:59am

re: #29 Pvt Bin Jammin

I’m 61 and my hubby is 58 but not real well lately. We’re self employed. Think we can get some kind of windmill jobs or something? We can’t afford to retire.

A huge windmill farm was built in the Altamont Pass, an extremely windy area near here, at huge cost, after heavy political pressure by so-called environmentalists.
Then it turned out that birds would fly into the windmill blades and be killed.
So the same people demanded that the windmills be shut down.
Morons and hypocrites.
The windmills are still running, as far as I know, after spending more money trying to reduce bird deaths.

48 YankeeBoy  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:12:01am

pimf/halo

49 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:13:23am

re: #47 UncleSam

I am not surprised in the least.

50 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:13:30am

re: #47 UncleSam

A huge windmill farm was built in the Altamont Pass, an extremely windy area near here, at huge cost, after heavy political pressure by so-called environmentalists.
Then it turned out that birds would fly into the windmill blades and be killed.
So the same people demanded that the windmills be shut down.
Morons and hypocrites.
The windmills are still running, as far as I know, after spending more money trying to reduce bird deaths.

I’ve heard that the windmills in Northern CA are being blamed for killing bats. Apparently they generate a zone of low pressure which makes the blood vessels in their lungs explode.

51 Killian Bundy  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:13:42am

re: #43 deymond

I tried to look up a comment about automakers in the transcript and couldn’t find it as well, so I think he was departing from that version frequently. Maybe that was why Boehner was late standing up on some applause lines?

He wants to make them more competitive and reshape them in his own image.

/like he or his Honda driving, Birkenstock wearing auto task force know Jack [expletive deleted] about building cars or the UAW will cooperate

52 UncleSam  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:13:56am

re: #38 BlueCanuck

No mention of nuclear whatsoever. All wind, solar, clean coal, and electric cars. I think he’s been drinking his unicorn farts.

That’s not encouraging…

53 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:14:04am

re: #7 blackpajamas

“Our children will compete for jobs in a global economy that too many of our schools do not prepare them for.”

Some clown-biter who ends his sentences with prepositions

That is something up with which I will not put!

0bama’s sentence reminds me of the story about a boy who wouldn’t go to bed until, finally, his father promised to read him a bedtime story. As the son raced upstairs to get ready for bed, the father selected a book. As it happened, the father chose a book about Australia, which was, unfortunately, the son’s least favorite story book.

When the father went upstairs and the son saw the book, he was disappointed. He asked his father, “What did you bring that book, which I didn’t want to be read to from out of, about down under, up for?

54 UncleSam  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:15:12am

re: #39 freetoken

FYI, Obama came under some flack during the primaries because the anti-nuke crowd didn’t like how he supported the IL nuclear industry.

Also, Sec. of Energy Chu quite explicitly, at his confirmation hearing, pointed out the need to move forward with both “breeder” reactors as well as thorium-type reactors.

But that is encouraging.
(See my above post.)

55 Killian Bundy  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:16:38am

re: #39 freetoken

Sec. of Energy Chu

/you mean the guy who, just the other day, said he was naive, overwhelmed, and that explaining U.S. policy to OPEC wasn’t his job because he had no I idea what it was?

56 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:18:06am

And the newspaper endgame begins:

San Francisco Newspaper in Danger of Stopping Presses

SAN FRANCISCO — The San Francisco Chronicle joined the lengthening list of imperiled newspapers Tuesday as its owner set out to purge the payroll and slash other expenses in a last-ditch effort to reverse years of heavy losses.

If it can’t reduce expenses dramatically within the next few weeks, the Hearst Corp. said it will close or sell the Chronicle, northern California’s largest newspaper with a paid weekday circulation of 339,430.

Hearst didn’t specify a savings target or a deadline for wringing out the expenses. A Hearst spokesman didn’t immediately respond to messages Tuesday.

But management made it clear that the cost-cutting will require a significant number of layoffs.

“Our current situation dictates that we accomplish these cost savings quickly,” Chronicle Publisher Frank Vega wrote in a memo to the staff. “Business as usual is no longer an option.”

The Chronicle has given Hearst financial headaches since the New York-based company bought the newspaper in a complex deal valued at $660 million. The late 2000 acquisition proved to be ill-timed. Shortly after Hearst took control, the San Francisco Chronicle was hard hit by a high-tech bust that caused its advertising revenue to shrivel.

The newspaper’s losses have been piling up ever since, despite previous job cuts and other austerity measures that were designed to stanch the bleeding. Now the 14-month-old recession, coupled with more advertising options on the Internet, has apparently pushed the 144-year-old newspaper to the breaking point.

Having lost more than $50 million last year, the Chronicle is off to an even worse start this year, said Hearst, as advertisers clamp down on their marketing budgets and increasingly divert more money to the Internet.

Given the challenges facing the Chronicle, Tuesday’s grim warning hardly came as a surprise, said Kevin Fagan, who has been a reporter at the newspaper for 16 years.

“The mood here is more upbeat than you would expect,” Fagan said. “There has been a lot of gallows humor but reporters are still doing what they do — write stories.” He said the newsroom of about 275 employees is still clinging to hope that the paper will survive because there still appear to be ways to lower the sprawling operation’s overhead.

Several other newspapers around the country are facing a fate similar to the San Francisco Chronicle’s.

Just last month, Hearst laid out plans to close the Seattle Post-Intelligencer if a buyer isn’t found before April. A similar fate awaits The E.W. Scripps Co.’s Rocky Mountain News in Denver and Gannett Co.’s Tucson Citizen in Arizona unless buyers are found for those papers.

But there would still be at least one large daily newspaper left in those other big cities where publishers are mulling a shutdown.

The only other daily newspaper in San Francisco — a city with a population of about 800,000 — is the Examiner, which is given away for free. Hearst owned the San Francisco Examiner, but sold it for just $100 and even provided the new owners with a $67 million subsidy as a condition for completing the Chronicle acquisition. The Examiner changed hands in 2004, and is now owned by the Anschutz Co.

57 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:18:17am

re: #47 UncleSam

I read an article about Germany’s use of wind power, I think in National Geographic, and I don’t think there has been a viable solution to the blades of the wind farm mills chopping up birds by the bushel. All the same, Germany has a lot of wind farms.

Germany has also developed some new, lightweight solar panels that are pretty interesting. Instead of the huge, heavy, hard things we’re used to seeing, these are much thinner and flexible. They’re sort of like those roll-up keyboards you see. I believe the company that developed these just started a production center in Arizona (or maybe it was New Mexico - I can’t remember).

58 Killian Bundy  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:19:25am

Overseas markets advance

/DOW futures +8

59 YankeeBoy  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:21:01am

re: #56 gmsc

This is what the bail-out is all about. They can’t make any money on their own accord.

60 UncleSam  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:21:14am

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I’ve heard that the windmills in Northern CA are being blamed for killing bats. Apparently they generate a zone of low pressure which makes the blood vessels in their lungs explode.

I’m not too fond of bats, as my uncle was bitten by a rabid bat on a hunting trip, way out in the wilderness, and didn’t make it back to civilization in time for rabies shots, and died a terrible death of rabies.
Absolutely true.
On the other hand, they are in general beneficial critters which eat harmful insects such as mosquitoes.
Six of one, a half dozen of the other.

61 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:22:35am

Goodnight, Lizards. I’m “out for the count”. Take care, everybody.re: #45 theheat

Actually, in art school, you are taught that white is a color, and black is not. White reflects all colors of the visible light spectrum, where black absorbs all colors, reflecting none.

That said, I don’t know how many tubes of gray I went through.

Thanks for refreshing my memory. I wanted to say something about that but I couldn’t remember the proof and black does seem like all of the mudied colors together.

62 TheMatrix31  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:23:22am

re: #58 Killian Bundy

Overseas markets advance

/DOW futures +8

That makes no sense.

63 UncleSam  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:24:51am

re: #57 theheat

I read an article about Germany’s use of wind power, I think in National Geographic, and I don’t think there has been a viable solution to the blades of the wind farm mills chopping up birds by the bushel. All the same, Germany has a lot of wind farms.

Germany has also developed some new, lightweight solar panels that are pretty interesting. Instead of the huge, heavy, hard things we’re used to seeing, these are much thinner and flexible. They’re sort of like those roll-up keyboards you see. I believe the company that developed these just started a production center in Arizona (or maybe it was New Mexico - I can’t remember).

Sounds promising.
I thought of that about 25 years ago.
Wish I’d patented it.

64 Killian Bundy  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:26:20am

re: #62 TheMatrix31

That makes no sense.

/well, now the DOW’s -1, so many negative waves

65 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:26:48am

re: #56 gmsc

Some see a crisis, but this could be an opportunity. I remember seeing lizards lament about the lack of any right-wing representation in the mainstream press. Maybe someone on the right could buy up the assets of these teetering, bankrupt companies and revamp the reporting style and editorial board as they see fit….

If the ‘fairness doctoring doctorine’ is supposed to be implemented, the left and dems should be careful since this could be made into a two-way street that isn’t just limited to talk radio…

Would it be too morbid to contemplate an acquisition of Bridges TV?

66 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:29:46am

re: #63 UncleSam

I know, it sounds so sensible when you think about it. You could have these ginormous hard panels that would tank a battleship, or lighter weight flexible panels that allowed infinitely more applications, particularly when used on existing construction.

Damn Germans, stealing all our ideas ;-)

67 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:30:39am
68 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:30:54am

re: #64 Killian Bundy


/well, now the DOW’s -1, so many negative waves

Hmm…even with yesterday’s meteoric rise of 250 points, doesn’t that still make it a net loss of 49 points for the week?

69 UncleSam  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:32:32am

re: #66 theheat

I know, it sounds so sensible when you think about it. You could have these ginormous hard panels that would tank a battleship, or lighter weight flexible panels that allowed infinitely more applications, particularly when used on existing construction.

Damn Germans, stealing all our ideas ;-)

Yeah, I delved into the patent process, but it was so complicated and expensive I just couldn’t do it at the time.

70 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:33:12am

re: #68 Fenway_Nation

/well, now the DOW’s -1, so many negative waves

Hmm…even with yesterday’s meteoric rise of 250 points, doesn’t that still make it a net loss of 49 points for the week?

You don’t understand - the Dow went up! It’s an 0bama miracle!

Remember, whenever the market goes up, it’s because of Ear Leader (thanks, Red!)! When the market goes down, that’s just evil racist capitalists protesting the 0bamessiah.

71 Killian Bundy  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:34:09am

re: #68 Fenway_Nation

Hmm…even with yesterday’s meteoric rise of 250 points, doesn’t that still make it a net loss of 49 points for the week?

Hey, rumor has it that Geithner might get on the TV again tomorrow and take another stab at explaining the bank bailout, during market hours.

/you’ll be screaming for your mother

72 deymond  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:34:34am

re: #51 Killian Bundy

I just remembered something about not protecting the automakers from their mistakes, right before saying he would protect the automakers from their mistakes.

73 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:36:08am

re: #69 UncleSam

There’s a reason patent and trademark attorneys make the big bucks. On the downside, the process makes it practically unaffordable for all but the most well-funded entrepreneurs.

You could be retired ten times over by now. Ouch!

74 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:37:26am

re: #70 gmsc

Heh…I love how vindictive and personal the White House spokestool was in going after that Chicago commodities trader (Santelli) who had that prophetic on-air anti-stimulus rant on CNBC. Something like “I don’t know what kind of house Mr. Santelli lives in…..”

Guess what, spokestool! The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers probably had nicer digs in Chicago than the CNBC guy….

75 UncleSam  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:38:04am

re: #73 theheat

There’s a reason patent and trademark attorneys make the big bucks. On the downside, the process makes it practically unaffordable for all but the most well-funded entrepreneurs.

You could be retired ten times over by now. Ouch!

Yeah. tell me about it! :)

76 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:38:32am

re: #72 deymond

I just remembered something about not protecting the automakers from their mistakes, right before saying he would protect the automakers from their mistakes.

To be fair, he voted for that before he voted against it.

/or did he vote ‘present’?

77 freetoken  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:40:02am

re: #55 Killian Bundy

Yes, that’s him… the honest guy.

78 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:41:48am

re: #77 freetoken

Yes, that’s him… the honest guy.

Well…at least there’s one in the administration.

79 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:49:56am

Abraham Lincoln denies a loan of $80
($80 in 1851, when this letter was written, is the rough equivalent of $2,200 today)

Dear Johnston: Your request for eighty dollars I do not think it best to comply with now. At the various times when I have helped you a little you have said to me, “We can get along very well now”; but in a very short time I find you in the same difficulty again.

Now, this can only happen by some defect in your conduct. What that defect is, I think I know. You are not lazy, and still you are an idler. I doubt whether, since I saw you, you have done a good whole day’s work in any one day. You do not very much dislike to work, and still you do not work much, merely because it does not seem to you that you could get much for it.

This habit of uselessly wasting time is the whole difficulty; it is vastly important to you, and still more so to your children, that you should break the habit. It is more important to them, because they have longer to live, and can keep out of an idle habit before they are in it, easier than they can get out after they are in.

You are now in need of some money; and what I propose is, that you shall go to work, “tooth and nail,” for somebody who will give you money for it. Let father and your boys take charge of your things at home, prepare for a crop, and make the crop, and you go to work for the best money wages, or in discharge of any debt you owe, that you can get; and, to secure you a fair reward for your labor, I now promise you, that for every dollar you will, between this and the first of May, get for your own labor, either in money or as your own indebtedness, I will then give you one other dollar. By this, if you hire yourself at ten dollars a month, from me you will get ten more, making twenty dollars a month for your work. In this I do not mean you shall go off to St. Louis, or the lead mines, or the gold mines in California, but I mean for you to go at it for the best wages you can get close to home in Coles County.

Now, if you will do this, you will be soon out of debt, and, what is better, you will have a habit that will keep you from getting in debt again. But, if I should now clear you out of debt, next year you would be just as deep in as ever. You say you would almost give your place in heaven for seventy or eighty dollars. Then you value your place in heaven very cheap, for I am sure you can, with the offer I make, get the seventy or eighty dollars for four or five months’ work.

You say if I will furnish you the money you will deed me the land, and, if you don’t pay the money back, you will deliver possession. Nonsense! If you can’t now live with the land, how will you then live without it? You have always been kind to me, and I do not mean to be unkind to you. On the contrary, if you will but follow my advice, you will find it worth more than eighty times eighty dollars to you.

LINCOLN TO JOHN D. JOHNSTON, JANUARY 2, 1851

If 0bama is supposed to be so similar to Abraham Lincoln, why am I having trouble picturing 0bama writing anything close to this?

80 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:50:03am

re: #75 UncleSam

I was trying to find something online about the Germany/US solar venture in the Southwest, but happened upon this release from Ovonic’s web site:

Other major announcements in 2008 included United Solar’s parent company (ECD) reaching sustainable profitability, closing a $400 million financing deal enabling its growth to 1GW in capacity by fiscal year 2012, and announcing “UNI-SOLAR Laminates will Power World’s Largest Rooftop Solar System for General Motors.”

You have to wonder if any part of Porkulus is paying for GM’s sexy/flexy new roof.

81 UncleSam  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:56:04am

re: #80 theheat

I was trying to find something online about the Germany/US solar venture in the Southwest, but happened upon this release from Ovonic’s web site:

You have to wonder if any part of Porkulus is paying for GM’s sexy/flexy new roof.

Thanks for the info.
Now I have to go cry myself to sleep…

Just kidding!
Sort of… :)

82 stuiec  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 12:58:03am

“I’m proud that we passed the recovery plan free of earmarks, and I want to pass a budget next year that ensures that each dollar we spend reflects only our most important national priorities.”

Lincoln had a favorite riddle: How many legs does a horse have if you call its tail a leg? The answer: Four. Calling his tail a leg doesn’t make it one. And the inverse is true: calling the 700 earmarks in the stimulus bill something else doesn’t turn them into anything other than earmarks.

I am also impressed with this bit:

“But to truly transform our economy, protect our security and save our planet from the ravages of climate change, we need to ultimately make clean, renewable energy the profitable kind of energy. So I ask this Congress to send me legislation that places a market-based cap on carbon pollution and drives the production of more renewable energy in America.”

I, for one, look forward to paying $8 a gallon in carbon taxes, ‘cause I am just that damn patriotic.

83 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:02:17am

How you’re supposed to think of the rebuilt Olympic city center in Beijing:

(Part 1)

(Part 2)

What really happened to this marvelous structure?

Beijing’s Olympic building boom becomes a bust

Some interesting excerpts from the article:

Reporting from Beijing — “Empty,” says Jack Rodman, an expert in distressed real estate, as he points from the window of his 40th-floor office toward a silver-skinned prism rising out of the Beijing skyline.

“Beautiful building, but not a single tenant.

“Completely empty.

“Empty.”

So goes the refrain as his finger skips from building to building, each flashier than the next, and few of them more than barely occupied.

…The government spent $43 billion for the Olympics, nearly three times as much as any other host city. But many of the venues proved too big, too expensive and more photogenic than practical.

…The National Stadium, known as the Bird’s Nest, has only one event scheduled for this year: a performance of the opera “Turandot” on Aug. 8, the one-year anniversary of the Olympic opening ceremony. China’s leading soccer club backed out of a deal to play there, saying it would be an embarrassment to use a 91,000-seat stadium for games that ordinarily attract only 10,000 spectators.

The venue, which costs $9 million a year to maintain, is expected to be turned into a shopping mall in several years, its owners announced last month.

A baseball stadium that opened last spring with an exhibition game between the Dodgers and the San Diego Padres, is being demolished. Its owner says it also will use the land for a shopping mall.

84 Jack Burton  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:10:38am

re: #27 BlueCanuck

Well I liked how teh One™ promised 15 billion to alternative energy. I thought to myself WTF? That’s no where near enough to get any proper research done. Wind and solar energy resources at a 100% efficiency would only contribute at the max maybe 10% to the national grid. Some one needs to teach him about proper alternatives and more meaningful funding.

This is because they don’t actually think about these things logically. They say some touchy-feely crap that makes the empty-headed sheeple feel good, throw a random number of millions or billions of taxpayer money at it, then move on to some other way to rob us until we forgot about all that money that was wasted on the first thing, then they bring up the same issue again. Throw more money at it. Repeat.

85 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:12:51am

re: #83 gmsc

You have to wonder, with retail sales in the terlit, how would enormous vacant shopping malls be any better than enormous vacant business centers? Just curious.

I have an idea… Bring back real, live, gladiators in the stadiums. Screw baseball and football, gladiators would pack them in like sardines every week.

I suggest they troll Wall Street and DC for gladiator bait. Just a thought.

86 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:15:43am

re: #85 theheat

You have to wonder, with retail sales in the terlit, how would enormous vacant shopping malls be any better than enormous vacant business centers? Just curious.

I have an idea… Bring back real, live, gladiators in the stadiums. Screw baseball and football, gladiators would pack them in like sardines every week.

I suggest they troll Wall Street and DC for gladiator bait. Just a thought.

“The people that once bestowed commands, consulships, legions, and all else, now concerns itself no more, and longs eagerly for just two things - bread and circuses”
-Juvenal

87 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:21:01am

Boyz II Men: It’s So Hard To Say Goodbye To Yesterday

88 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:21:24am

re: #86 gmsc

just two things - bread and circuses

2009 translation: beer and NASCAR.

89 Afrocity  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:24:40am

hmmm can’t sleep

90 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:25:06am

Morning Afrocity. Too wound up?

91 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:25:33am

Hey freetoken!

If you were the one who suggested yesterday that my lost fonts on the mac were still there…THANKS! :-)

Took me awhile to find them and then to find the right place to put them, but I was able to pull my file together once I did.

/now if I could only find the printer driver… :-(

92 Afrocity  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:26:32am

re: #90 BlueCanuck

Yes, feeling bad for Jindal

93 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:28:56am

Morning Afrocity and Littleoldlady!

94 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:29:45am

Fenway! :-)

95 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:31:07am

re: #92 Afrocity

Yes, feeling bad for Jindal

I’m feeling bad for America, after the Obama speech. How long will it take for the assholes to wake up to his BS. He wants to decrease the deficit but increase spending at a record pace.

96 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:31:20am

Morning littleoldlady. How are you doing this morning?

97 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:31:58am

re: #94 littleoldlady

Good Morning

98 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:32:23am

And now, the brand-new, guaranteed way to get out of debt! Try this new program. It’s called “Don’t Buy Stuff You Can’t Afford!” See the infomercial at the link below:
[Link: www.hulu.com…]

99 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:32:26am

BlueCanuck! :-)

Stressed, and you?

100 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:32:33am

re: #94 littleoldlady

Got a new antennae for my XM Radio…just in time for Spring Training and the stretch run leading up to the Stanley Cup playoffs!

101 Afrocity  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:33:19am

We need to come up with a strategy for 2012.

102 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:33:25am

re: #98 gmsc

But does it have Billy Mays?

103 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:34:04am

re: #101 Afrocity

We need to come up with a strategy for 2012.

We need to come up with a strategy for 2010!

104 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:34:10am

re: #91 littleoldlady

Hey freetoken!

If you were the one who suggested yesterday that my lost fonts on the mac were still there…THANKS! :-)

Took me awhile to find them and then to find the right place to put them, but I was able to pull my file together once I did.

/now if I could only find the printer driver… :-(

It sounds like you’re doing better.

As for the printer driver, use spotlight (that magnifying glass in the upper right corner of your screen) to find it. Just type in the printer driver name (or as much as you can remember), and it should find it, as long as it’s still on your hard drive.

105 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:34:30am

re: #102 Fenway_Nation

But does it have Billy Mays?

…as an added bonus - NO!
;)

106 Afrocity  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:35:28am

re: #103 Fenway_Nation

We need to come up with a strategy for 2010!

I can’t do anything in Illinois.

107 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:35:46am

re: #100 Fenway_Nation

That’s great!

/what’s an XM radio…?

108 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:35:47am

re: #99 littleoldlady

BlueCanuck! :-)

Stressed, and you?

About the same. At least I will be having a week off in a few days. Looking forward to some relax time.

109 Jack Burton  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:36:03am

re: #98 gmsc

It’s called “Don’t Buy Stuff You Can’t Afford!”

That’s what Americans have been doing for a decade. Borrow to buy shit you cant afford and/or don’t really need at times when the stuff is the most expensive.

It’s works great! Obamonomics Wow!

/

110 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:37:07am

re: #104 gmsc

I have a horrible feeling the printer doesn’t work with OSX 10.5

/couldn’t find the right driver to download on the hp site

:-( :-( :-(

111 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:37:45am

re: #98 gmsc

PRICELESS. Everyone in DC needs a subscription.

112 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:37:47am

re: #107 littleoldlady

That’s great!

/what’s an XM radio…?


Sattelite radio company that carries MLB/NHL and college football (as well as various music, talk and international channels).

113 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:38:10am

re: #103 Fenway_Nation

We need to come up with a strategy for 2010!


I think a realistic goal for 2010 would be to achieve a stronger minority that the Administration needs help from to pass legislation. The crap from this Stimulus will be hitting the fan and look bad for the Dems, having a majority might do more harm than good at that time. Gridlock in DC seems to be best for the country.

114 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:38:36am

re: #106 Afrocity

I can’t do anything in Illinois.

Would you contemplate moving? Even if it’s just a few miles down the road to Indiana?

115 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:39:00am

re: #102 Fenway_Nation

I HATE that guy. C’mon, I can’t be the only one that hates him.

116 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:40:08am

Aaargh! Listening to a tape-delay of Lars Larsen with the Vagina Monologues moonbat.

117 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:40:08am

re: #115 theheat

I HATE that guy. C’mon, I can’t be the only one that hates him.

Vince the Sham-Wow guy bothers me more. Much higher on the creepiness scale.

118 Afrocity  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:40:31am

re: #114 Fenway_Nation

Would you contemplate moving? Even if it’s just a few miles down the road to Indiana?

Eww, no place to shop.

119 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:40:50am

re: #107 littleoldlady

That’s great!

/what’s an XM radio…?

It’s digital radio that you subscribe to. Instead of having stations like “98.5 KLMN” or “103.7 WXYZ”, you just have stations like “80’s favorites” or “Classical Opera” or “Newest Hits”.

They’re mostly commercial free (although FOX News has one with commercials, as do some others). You do have to buy a special radio to receive it, but many people find it’s worth it.

120 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:42:46am

re: #119 gmsc

It’s digital radio that you subscribe to. Instead of having stations like “98.5 KLMN” or “103.7 WXYZ”, you just have stations like “80’s favorites” or “Classical Opera” or “Newest Hits”.

They’re mostly commercial free (although FOX News has one with commercials, as do some others). You do have to buy a special radio to receive it, but many people find it’s worth it.

I’m mostly in it for the sports play-by-play.

121 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:43:11am

re: #119 gmsc

Oh! Oh! My cousin has that in his car! They have stations dedicated to very narrow subjects.

/like, ONE song

122 Afrocity  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:43:28am

I will just pray that my fav 2 GOP candidates are accepted more.

123 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:47:31am

Wow….I am stupider for having listened to that insipid Vagina Monologues moonbat. She says she’s against the ongoing rape epidemic (byproduct of the civil war) but thinks a political solution is much more feasable than a military one….when Larsen asked if the US should intervene militarily, she indignantly started to say ‘Absolutely not! The United Nations has Peacekeepers….’.

Umm….weren’t some of those same Peacekeepers the ones who were raping little girls in the Congo?

124 Afrocity  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:48:15am

goodnight again (xanax kicked in)

125 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:48:35am

re: #121 littleoldlady

The Right-Wing talk channel would has programs dedicated entirely to guns and cigars on the weekend.

126 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:48:57am

re: #98 gmsc

It’s called “Don’t Buy Stuff You Can’t Afford!”

re: #109 ArchangelMichael

That’s what Americans have been doing for a decade. Borrow to buy shit you cant afford and/or don’t really need at times when the stuff is the most expensive.

It’s works great! Obamonomics Wow!

/

No, the title is “Don’t Buy Stuff You Can’t Afford!”

It’s exactly what Americans have NOT been doing, and they’ve been NOT doing it for much longer than the past decade.

If you only buy stuff you can afford, it’s very easy to stay out of debt.

It goes very well with the advice in The Richest Man in Babylon.

127 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:49:28am

re: #124 Afrocity

Night Xanax.

/It’s probably my oratory that’s doing it, but you’re being polite.

128 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:50:30am

re: #121 littleoldlady

Oh! Oh! My cousin has that in his car! They have stations dedicated to very narrow subjects.

/like, ONE song

Your cousin must be Steve Delahoyde.
;)

129 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:52:03am

re: #128 gmsc

Whatever it is, my computer doesn’t like it. :-/

/I’m the Joe Bstpxt of computers…

130 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:52:27am

Night Afrocity, hope you can get the rest for the rest of the night.

131 TheMatrix31  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:53:39am
132 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:54:54am

re: #128 gmsc

Your cousin must be Steve Delahoyde.
;)

re: #129 littleoldlady

Whatever it is, my computer doesn’t like it. :-/

/I’m the Joe Bstpxt of computers…

Oh, it’s a film of a guy taking a 238-mile, 4-hour journey, listening to only one song - ABBA’s Dancing Queen.

Here’s the full story (sans video).

133 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:57:12am

re: #117 soxfan4life

You’re right. A whole ‘nother league of creepy.

134 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 1:59:48am

re: #118 Afrocity

Eww, no place to shop.

You want shopping? Move to Vegas! We’ve got shopping like you wouldn’t believe!

135 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:00:15am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ————————->
Help yourselves!

136 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:01:08am

re: #135 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ————————->
Help yourselves!

Num - Num!

137 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:01:19am

re: #132 gmsc

OY. ;-)

gmsc! :-)

138 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:01:58am

re: #135 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ————————->
Help yourselves!

Yeah. fruitcuppie goodness. Much better then unicorn farts. :D

139 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:02:42am

re: #137 littleoldlady

OY. ;-)

gmsc! :-)

I didn’t say it was a good idea. I just said it was something he did.

140 TheMatrix31  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:02:44am

re: #135 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ————————->
Help yourselves!

Thanks!

141 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:03:55am

BlueCanuck! :-)

Matrix! :-)

142 Ledger1  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:04:59am

In case it has not been posted here is some humor from Iowahawk.

[Iowahawk]

‘Dow Soars on NYU White House Takeover’

NEW YORK - Major stock indexes posted broad gains on heavy trading early Tuesday on news that a rogue group of student protesters from New York University had taken over the White House and barricaded themselves in the Oval Office. The Dow posted a 1100 point (17%) gain in the first hour of trading, wiping out nearly all of its loss since January 20 and almost 35% of losses since November 4.

“Finally, we’re seeing encouraging signs of sanity in Washington,” said UBS market analyst Jane Cohen. The market rally lifted issues across the board, with 87% of stocks showing gains. Market leaders included Apple ($116.05, +32%), Amalgamated Pachouli & Incense ($23.15, +53%), Keffiya Mart ($17.66, +49%), and Bongs.com ($41.10, +72%)… the students, recently expelled from NYU after a takeover of a school building, wrested control of the federal government after a 15 minute siege of the White House…

“They tricked us,” complained exiled Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. “They said they were only coming by to chillax with some OG kush and talk about the stimulus bill…” …coup leader and presumed acting US President Skyler Lozano appeared on a White House balcony to unfurl a “Free Gaza” banner and recite a list of the group’s demands, including “cruelty-free consensus,” “vegan lunchboxes,” “end of the corporatist empire,” and “free Wi-Fi in all dorms.” …Rachel Morgenthau then ordered all federal employees to go on a general strike

Deposed Obama administration officials denied any plans for a military action to regain power, and said they would exhaust legal challenges before resorting to NYU rent-a-cops. “We are ready to file a suit as soon as the DC circuit court returns from Jamaica,” said Emanuel, at a terse press conference outside Obama’s Oval Office-in-Exile at a Red Roof Inn in Bethesda, Maryland. “And as soon as we finish this bag of kush.”

See: Dow Soars on NYU White House Takeover

143 Jack Burton  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:05:30am

re: #126 gmsc

Crap, getting tired and seeing what I want to see I guess. But “dont buy things you cant afford” (unless its an emergency) is self-evident to me. It should go without saying. Apparently it doesn’t though. I swear I think I’m the only person who actually saved any money during the past few years and I still can’t afford a house even with the prices falling off a cliff.

Now Teh Zero wants to create an artificial floor on that. Should I just give in and stick to a nice Party-Approved Commie Domicile Unit with multiple families under one roof, a small carbon footprint, a thermostat stuck at 50 in the winter and 85 in the summer and complete dependence on the state for everything?

144 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:05:56am

{lol} thanks for the ubiquitous fruitcup™

Morning Lizards.

145 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:06:19am

The new issue of Mental Floss is out. Guess what it says at the very top?

Are Darwin’s Theories Going Extinct?

Here’s a better description from the Table of Contents:

Who’s The Fittest Now? Everything You Know About Genetics Is Evolving
By Sam Kean
Jean-Baptiste Lamarck has been the laughingstock of evolutionary science ever since Darwin hit the scene. But now a field called epigenetics is giving his theories some new life, and helping biology break new ground in the process.

146 freetoken  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:07:31am

re: #91 littleoldlady


/now if I could only find the printer driver… :-(


Leopard comes with quite a few printer drivers… that ought to have been installed … hmmm….

Nevertheless, you can do one of two things. Install just the printer drivers from the DVD, or likely get it from the website of the printer manufacturer. For my Canon printer I downloaded the latest version of the driver.

147 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:08:50am

re: #134 gmsc

And Afrocity could offset some Nevada doofus who thinks Harry Reid deserves another term….

148 freetoken  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:10:15am

re: #135 littleoldlady

Fruitcup… goes well with Attenborough’s The Life of Birds, which I am watching.

Didn’t see you mention not finding the printer driver on the HP website…. how old is the HP printer?

149 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:10:54am

rightside! :-)

Ubiquitous me. ;-)

150 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:11:26am

re: #146 freetoken

freetoken! :-)

Lots of drivers. Not mine. :-(

151 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:12:13am

re: #148 freetoken

Fruitcup… goes well with Attenborough’s The Life of Birds, which I am watching.

Didn’t see you mention not finding the printer driver on the HP website…. how old is the HP printer?

Not that old. Hp 2550L

152 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:13:25am

By the way, how much of taxpayer money do you think community organizers like this will get from the new ‘stimulus’ bill?

Chauncey Bailey won’t be available to write an op-ed on that.

153 freetoken  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:14:01am

Here is the list of printer drivers included in OSX 10.5.

It looks like drivers for a gazillion different HP printers are on the DVD.

154 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:15:05am

re: #149 littleoldlady

What’s the video? jihadtube blocked at work for me.

Who would have thought the most user friendly™ OS in the world, doesn’t even have drivers for your “Not that old” printer?

155 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:15:15am

re: #143 ArchangelMichael

Crap, getting tired and seeing what I want to see I guess. But “dont buy things you cant afford” (unless its an emergency) is self-evident to me. It should go without saying. Apparently it doesn’t though. I swear I think I’m the only person who actually saved any money during the past few years and I still can’t afford a house even with the prices falling off a cliff.

Now Teh Zero wants to create an artificial floor on that. Should I just give in and stick to a nice Party-Approved Commie Domicile Unit with multiple families under one roof, a small carbon footprint, a thermostat stuck at 50 in the winter and 85 in the summer and complete dependence on the state for everything?

I was wondering if you were reading the same post I was!
;)

I am proud to live in a fully paid-for house! Sure, there are still taxes, utilities and so on, but no mortgage! (It’s amazing what just a down payment from a house in California would buy in Las Vegas back at the turn of the century!)

I also save money everytime I get paid. I’ve spent the first 6 years of living in Vegas with people laughing at me for my “simplistic” financial decisions.

The financial crisis hits, and all of the sudden, I’m an economic genius. I’ve actually been asked if and/or how I knew this financial crisis was coming. Guys - if you handle your money in the age-old basic ways, then you don’t have to know what’s going to happen, because you know you can handle it!

Saving for Greatness

A fellow freethinker who works for World Financial Group shared this document with me. Their sales representatives regularly give this flyer to prospects. The flyer names no original author of this fine dissertation, but it certainly resonates with the Objectivist ethics of financial management.

Your savings, believe it or not, affect the way you stand, the way you walk, the tone of your voice — in short, your physical well-being and self-confidence. A man without savings is always running. He must. He must take the first job offered, or nearly so. He sits nervously on life’s chairs because any small emergency throws him into the hands of others.

Without savings, a man must be too grateful. Gratitude is a fine thing in its place. But a constant state of gratitude is a horrible place in which to live. A man with savings can walk tall. He may appraise opportunities in a relaxed way, have time for judicious estimates and not be rushed by economic necessity.

A man with savings can afford to resign from his job if his principles so dictate — and for this reason he will never need to do so. A man who can afford to quit is much more useful to his company and therefore more readily promoted. He can afford to give his company the benefit of his most candid judgments.

A man with savings can afford the wonderful privilege of being generous in family or neighborhood emergencies. He can take the level stare of any man … friend, stranger or enemy. That ability shapes his personality and character.

The ability to save has nothing to do with the size of income. Many high-income people spend it all. They are on a treadmill, darting through life like minnows.

The dean of American bankers, J.P. Morgan, once advised a young broker: “Take waste out of your spending; you’ll drive the haste out of your life.”

If you do not need money for college, a home or retirement, then save for self-confidence. The state of your savings does have a lot to do with how tall you walk.

156 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:16:07am

Oops- Preview is my friend:

Let’s try this again: how much of taxpayer money do you think community organizers like this will get from the new ‘stimulus’ bill?

Chauncey Bailey won’t be available to write an op-ed on that.

157 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:17:31am

re: #153 freetoken

Okay. It’s in there.

I’m obviously not looking in the right place - AGAIN.

THANKS, freetoken!

158 freetoken  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:17:32am

re: #151 littleoldlady

Not that old. Hp 2550L

From that printer list on Apple’s website… the following are supposed to be on the DVD:

Color LaserJet 2550L
Color LaserJet 2550Ln
Color LaserJet 2550n

Quoting Apple:

If you would like to install any of the optional printer drivers after installing Mac OS X, insert the Install disc into your computer and use Optional Installs.
159 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:18:35am

re: #154 rightside

Judy Garland singing Embraceable You.

/too bad you can’t see / hear it

160 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:19:09am

re: #158 freetoken

OKAY!

w00t! :-) :-) :-)

161 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:21:03am

re: #151 littleoldlady

Not that old. Hp 2550L

Here’s an idea from someone with your same problem - and even your same printer!

First, select “Software Update” (from the Apple Menu), and upgrade to the most recent version of Leopard (10.5.6). Then restart.

Once you’ve done that, select “Software Update” again, you should see an updated HP printer driver package ready to be downloaded!

162 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:23:10am

re: #161 gmsc

FABULOUS! :-)

You guyz are the best!

163 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:24:21am

Of course….my G4 might explode if I upgrade the OS anymore….

/but who cares!
//I’ll be able to print the explosion!

;-)

164 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:28:01am

Okay…I’m off to noodle with Adventures in Computers.

Good day, ALL!™

165 freetoken  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:29:31am

re: #162 littleoldlady

OSX is an amazingly capable operating system. However, even with all Apple has done to make its UNIX heritage invisible to the end user, the reality is that OSX is a very large set of software.

I remember upgrading my PowerBook a few years back from 10.2 to 10.4…. didn’t work when I tried and all I got was a blank grey screen after install. Fortunately years earlier I had used a UNIX computer (BSD), and booting the hobbled PowerBook up in a safe mode (yes, it is possible), I was able to use the UNIX shell to go looking for files (third party applications) that I thought might be causing the problem. Sure enough, after deleting enough files I finally got the PowerBook to boot under 10.4.

Since then I haven’t had anywhere near as difficult an issue… though at times I find myself having to read through a bit of Apple literature.

166 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:32:02am

re: #163 littleoldlady

Of course….my G4 might explode if I upgrade the OS anymore….

/but who cares!
//I’ll be able to print the explosion!

;-)

I’ve got an excellent long-term solution for that problem, too.

Start setting aside $25 on each payday for a “New Mac” fund. I did this back in 2007-2008, by putting $25 on a rechargeable Apple Store card, which not only helped me save money, but also FORCED me to use it only for a new computer.

As you start getting around the $700 mark or so, start deciding on what type of Mac you’d like, and look mainly in the Refurbished Mac section of the online Apple Store.

These are all Macs that were previously purchased, returned with problems, which have now been fixed and refurbished up to factory standards. Just looking on the page as it is today, there are Macs up there for up to 27% off!

167 Jack Burton  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:32:09am

re: #155 gmsc

Well I did actually see this crisis coming. I just did not expect it to be as bad as it is. I knew the housing boom was smoke and mirrors and the fact that it didn’t fall off a cliff 2 years before it did amazed me. I was saving a lot but I got caught up in some irrational exuberance trading options in 2007 and literally lost everything. I still have capital loss carryover that could last 5 years now. It couldn’t have happened at a worse time (only thing worse would have been if I lost my job at the same time).

So I had to start over on the “I want to buy a house in cash and give the finger to the banks and their debt-slavery” plan. I’m nowhere near that, even if I moved out of California, and even saving 2/3 of my take home pay.

Still even with all of this. I got “used to” living like a pauper to save money so it’s not a shock to the system. I have such a small amount of debt it’s not worth worrying about. So I guess I’m on the right track and better off than almost everyone I know. I’m not up all night worrying about a mortgage ruining my life.

168 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:32:20am

re: #164 littleoldlady

Okay…I’m off to noodle with Adventures in Computers.

Good day, ALL!™

Good night, and good day, lol!

169 infidel4ever  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:32:22am

OT

Turkish airliner crashes during approach of Schiphol airport in the Netherlands.

The plane broke in 3 pieces, but is not on fire. Carried 135 passengers + crew, according to the public at least 50 passengers have exited the plane. Rescue workers on the way.

Turkish airliner crashes

170 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:32:23am

Gotta love this machine! I went to Software Update and other than the usual Java stuff it wants to update: hp printer drivers.

HA.

171 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:34:14am

re: #170 littleoldlady

Gotta love this machine! I went to Software Update and other than the usual Java stuff it wants to update: hp printer drivers.

HA.

See?
;)

172 UncleRancher  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:35:24am

Printers? I got a nice little HP K5400 a while back. It prints with CMYK colors and hooks in the USB port.

Then I discovered it did not work and play well with others connected to the USB port. Finally we solved the problem with a hub between the computer and the printer. The hub uses up two USB connections. That worked fine for a while, then I find that with anything else connected ahead of the hub the printer doesn’t work anymore.

The printer does great work including excellent photos, but it is getting to be a pain in the connection department.

173 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:36:21am

I do hope Charles does revisit the Chauncey Bailey assassination at some point. That whole Your Black Muslim Bakery seems to have elements of all the things I loathe- thugs masquerading as pious Muslims, silencing a journalist through assassination, police corruption, complicity from city hall and all the ancillary criminal activities from Bey’s empire- murder, kindapping, extortion, assault, fraud….

It makes me wonder how many of these vaunted community organizers are running similar rackets with a quasi-legitimate front in other cities.

174 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:38:59am

re: #170 littleoldlady

Gotta love this machine! I went to Software Update and other than the usual Java stuff it wants to update: hp printer drivers.

HA.

BTW, you might want to try the free program AppFresh. What Software Update is to your system files, AppFresh is to ALL of your files.

For example, Software Update will never alert you that your favorite Dashboard Widget or editing program has a new version available, but AppFresh would!

175 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:42:43am

Good morning/afternoon/evening all,

Any fruitcup left?

176 UncleRancher  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:43:14am

re: #167 ArchangelMichael

I have to agree with all that. I’ve been living Dave Ramsey’s debt free life for the past 40 years and could have written his book. Should have, too. I was about as ready for a market crash as anyone could be, and it is still painful to look around and see everything falling appart like it is.

177 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:45:15am

re: #175 Carl in Jerusalem

Good morning/afternoon/evening all,

Any fruitcup left?

“Those who are tardy do not get fruitcup!”
-Nurse Diesel

178 UncleRancher  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:48:21am

Oops….. (Where was that spellcheck button….)

179 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:50:08am

re: #167 ArchangelMichael

I had to evacuate during some wildfires a few years back. When I got around to unpacking, I noticed a savings bond issued the day I was born that had just stopped collecting interest….

After stopping around at some of the local financial institutions, I asked around about current rates for U.S. Savings Bonds. Turns out by definition, credit unions aren’t authorized to issue them. The local banks just gave me a blank stare, but surprisngly one of the national chains was able to help me out after alot of initial confusion- apparently it was a learning process for both them and myself. Still- while the rates were still pretty decent (somewhere in the 3% to 5% range) I’d stop by with some of my take-home pay and wound up getting a few hundred dollars worth of savings bonds. I haven’t really been back since the interest rates dropped.

I also have a CD that matures in April that’s earning 5%, some precious metals and I just purchased a few hundred dollars worth of common stock in an electric utility company. Not exactly exciting and innovative investment, but offhand I’d say they’re a little better than mortgage-backed securities….

180 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:50:34am

re: #177 gmsc

“Those who are tardy do not get fruitcup!”
-Nurse Diesel

Heh.

Some of us have protectzia with Littleoldlady.

181 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:51:52am

re: #180 Carl in Jerusalem

Heh.

Some of us have protectzia with Littleoldlady.

Well, that and the fact that Littleoldlady is much nicer than Nurse Diesel.

182 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:52:53am

Good night, all! I’m going to sleep.

183 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:54:04am

re: #181 gmsc

Well, that and the fact that Littleoldlady is much nicer than Nurse Diesel.

Maybe.
Some days.

;-)

Hiya, CARL! :-)

‘Night, gmsc! :-) Thanks for your help!

184 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:54:05am

re: #182 gmsc

Good night, all! I’m going to sleep.

I’m starting to think it’s me…..

185 UncleRancher  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:59:15am

re: #184 Fenway_Nation

I’m starting to think it’s me…..

Me too. I got snakes to kill in the morning.

Gnite.

186 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 2:59:26am

I dreamed that ACORN took over the National Weather Service and SEIU.

187 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:01:30am

re: #186 MandyManners

I dreamed that ACORN took over the National Weather Service and SEIU.

OY! :-/

Mandy! :-)

188 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:01:42am

re: #186 MandyManners

I dreamed that ACORN took over the National Weather Service and SEIU.

What did they do with the weather service? Change all the data to ‘prove’ global warming?

189 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:02:06am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Maybe.
Some days.

;-)

Hiya, CARL! :-)

‘Night, gmsc! :-) Thanks for your help!

How are you? What’s going on?

190 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:06:52am

re: #189 Carl in Jerusalem

How are you? What’s going on?

I’m okay. (Hurry Spring!) Nothing good.

When does the new government take over there? Or have they already…?

191 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:08:22am

re: #187 littleoldlady

OY! :-/

Mandy! :-)

I need to go check the cistern.

192 Ledger1  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:09:21am

Did 0bama mention to properly inflate your tires? It’s sure to make us energy independent - and to solve world hunger.

/

193 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:10:00am

re: #188 Carl in Jerusalem

What did they do with the weather service? Change all the data to ‘prove’ global warming?

‘Prove’ how Republicans cause global warming to disenfranchise blacks?

194 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:10:07am

Carl,

Kosher for Passover blintzes?!

/or, as we say in my family, “Polichinkas”

195 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:11:35am

re: #188 Carl in Jerusalem

What did they do with the weather service? Change all the data to ‘prove’ global warming?

I don’t know ‘cause I woke up then, thoroughly confused. Then I remembered the talk here last night of the USGS and figured it morphed into the NWS. But, for the life of me, I cannot figure out the SEIU. Oh, wait. That union was in CBBHO’s pocket.

196 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:12:06am

re: #190 littleoldlady

I’m okay. (Hurry Spring!) Nothing good.

When does the new government take over there? Or have they already…?

Yes, they have. Didn’t you hear the Dow Jones whishing by on it’s way down?

197 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:12:45am

re: #193 Fenway_Nation

‘Prove’ how Republicans cause global warming to disenfranchise blacks?

Shhh…. Can’t say that stuff….

198 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:14:09am

I remember when I was a child that my nightmares were about monsters in the closet. Now, they’re about CBBHO and the havoc he’s wreaking.

I’d rather dream about monsters in the closet.

199 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:15:17am

re: #194 littleoldlady

Carl,

Kosher for Passover blintzes?!

/or, as we say in my family, “Polichinkas”

Wheat free?

Reminds me of the first time we brought whole-wheat hand shmura matza (sorry to those who don’t get that - try googling) to my inlaws. My father-in-law was convinced that they had juice in them (because Streit’s whole wheat matza did) and wouldn’t touch them.

200 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:15:48am

re: #195 MandyManners

I don’t know ‘cause I woke up then, thoroughly confused. Then I remembered the talk here last night of the USGS and figured it morphed into the NWS. But, for the life of me, I cannot figure out the SEIU. Oh, wait. That union was in CBBHO’s pocket.

Yup, that’s The One.

201 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:16:46am

re: #198 MandyManners

I remember when I was a child that my nightmares were about monsters in the closet. Now, they’re about CBBHO and the havoc he’s wreaking.

I’d rather dream about monsters in the closet.

He was a monster in your closet. The problem is that now he has come out….

202 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:17:40am

Good morning, Lizards.

203 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:18:29am

re: #196 Carl in Jerusalem

Yes, they have. Didn’t you hear the Dow Jones whishing by on it’s way down?

Oh, yeah. Funny how my Obama-voting relatives (who are a lot more “comfortable” than we are) are studiously ignoring me these days. Last week I sent my little brother an email, “Buyers remorse yet?”

/nada back ;-)

204 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:18:36am

re: #197 Carl in Jerusalem

Shhh…. Can’t say that stuff….

Well….look at New Orleans….a virtual utopian paradise of harmony and good governance ‘til Carl Rove turned his Zionist weather machine onto the happless city.

/

205 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:18:38am

Good morning {goddess}.

206 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:19:10am

re: #202 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

207 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:20:34am

{Blue Canuck}
(rightside}

208 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:21:06am

re: #200 Carl in Jerusalem

Yup, that’s The One.

And, SEIU was the union that took away one legal holiday and replaced it with some Muslim holiday at the Tyson plant in Shelbyville, TN.

209 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:21:47am

goddess! :-)

210 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:21:49am

re: #201 Carl in Jerusalem

He was a monster in your closet. The problem is that now he has come out….

I can hardly wait until we shove him back into the closet, i.e., the private sector.

211 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:22:08am

re: #202 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, goddess!

212 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:22:14am

re: #203 littleoldlady

I almost hate to say it, LoL….but I plan on saying nothing to my 0-adoring sister and brother-in-law for awhile because I have a feeling they’re in for another 3 and 2/5ths years worth of buyer’s remorse and I suspect I’ll have ample opportunity to say ‘I told you so’…

213 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:24:20am

Morning, goddess.

214 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:25:38am

re: #204 Fenway_Nation

Well….look at New Orleans….a virtual utopian paradise of harmony and good governance ‘til Carl Rove turned his Zionist weather machine onto the happless city.

/

Rove did that? I thought it was Bushitler.

215 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:26:23am

re: #202 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Good morning Goddess!

216 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:27:29am

re: #212 Fenway_Nation

I almost hate to say it, LoL….but I plan on saying nothing to my 0-adoring sister and brother-in-law for awhile because I have a feeling they’re in for another 3 and 2/5ths years worth of buyer’s remorse and I suspect I’ll have ample opportunity to say ‘I told you so’…

How much of that 64% in favor (of the bailouts) do you think are just ashamed to admit so quickly that they were wrong?

217 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:27:51am

re: #214 Carl in Jerusalem

Rove did that? I thought it was Bushitler.

*Tsk tsk*

Rove was the one pulling the strings- how could you be so naiive?

218 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:30:48am

re: #212 Fenway_Nation

I really don’t want to say “I told you so”. I really don’t want my capitalist/communist cousin to go out of business, my podiatrist cousin to not be able to retire, and my brother (“He’s gonna be moderate if he wants to be re-elected”) to be stuck in that tiny Manhattan apartment forever.

219 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:31:05am

{littleoldlady}
{MandyManners}
(Fenway_Nation}
(Carl in Jerusalem}

220 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:32:12am

re: #219 goddessoftheclassroom

Feeling less stressed today?

221 jim in virginia  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:33:37am

Morning all!
Some random thoughts on last night’s speechifying:
Nancy Pelosi’s cheerleading and Biden’s smirk: what kind of drugs are they on?
The relentless (sometimes subtle, sometimes blatant ) bashing of big business and former Presidents. “For the last ten years….” I bet Clinton is pissed.
No memorable phrases. WaPo end of world headline this morning is “Day of Reckoning.” I reckon that was the best they could do.
Utter lack of specifics. Two of Barry’s points stick out. “No earmarks in the stimulus” but the people of Minneapolis are safer because we funded 54 new police officers there.
Do the good people of Minneapolis really want and need to trust their safety to the generosity of the Federal government?

I miss Ronald Reagan. Heck, I miss both G. Bushes.

222 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:33:44am

A tumor?

I’m trying to decide which of them is the bigger moron.

By the way, I heard that Octomom is a ‘Palestinian’ (at least on her father’s side).

Perfectly within the national character….

223 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:34:13am

re: #220 rightside

Feeling less stressed today?

Well, in fact, my anxiety/stress is maxing out right now. This afternoon my boys and I are going to a custody mediation with my EH. He is petitioning for joint legal custody.

224 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:34:55am

re: #221 jim in virginia

Jim!

225 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:35:22am

re: #221 jim in virginia

Morning all!
Some random thoughts on last night’s speechifying:
Nancy Pelosi’s cheerleading and Biden’s smirk: what kind of drugs are they on?
The relentless (sometimes subtle, sometimes blatant ) bashing of big business and former Presidents. “For the last ten years….” I bet Clinton is pissed.
No memorable phrases. WaPo end of world headline this morning is “Day of Reckoning.” I reckon that was the best they could do.
Utter lack of specifics. Two of Barry’s points stick out. “No earmarks in the stimulus” but the people of Minneapolis are safer because we funded 54 new police officers there.
Do the good people of Minneapolis really want and need to trust their safety to the generosity of the Federal government?

I miss Ronald Reagan. Heck, I miss both G. Bushes.

I’m surprised the 54 cops aren’t contingent on Franken being declared the winner (maybe they are).

I miss Bush 43. I don’t miss Bush 41. Sorry. I lived through the end of that administration in Israel.

226 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:36:12am

re: #223 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, in fact, my anxiety/stress is maxing out right now. This afternoon my boys and I are going to a custody mediation with my EH. He is petitioning for joint legal custody.

Good luck. How old are the boys now?

227 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:36:30am

re: #223 goddessoftheclassroom

I hope all goes well for you.

228 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:37:45am

re: #226 Carl in Jerusalem

Good luck. How old are the boys now?

My sons are 17 and 13.

Thanks, all.

229 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:38:06am

{My Rove}! :-)

230 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:39:11am

G’day from Down Under to {everyone}

{goddessoftheclassroom} Thinking of you, and I wish you all the best for the mediation hearing - what an ordeal this is for you

231 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:39:33am

re: #221 jim in virginia

Nancy Pelosi’s cheerleading and Biden’s smirk: what kind of drugs are they on?

Drunk with power.

232 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:40:25am

re: #230 aussiemagpie

good morning aussie

233 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:41:42am

aussie! :-)

234 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:43:41am

Here’s a story of one school bus driver ……

UPDATE: Couriermail.com.au readers have backed the actions of a frustrated school bus driver who took a coach load of children to a police station.

The driver reacted after he was hit in the back of the head by a flying lolly.

The Queensland Times at Ipswich reports that local police then entered the bus and gave the students “a good dressing down

I can just imagine the outrage from some of the parents defending their little horrors..

235 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:44:16am

re: #232 rightside

good morning aussie

G’day rightside :-)

236 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:48:09am

re: #223 goddessoftheclassroom

I hope the hearing goes well in your favour.

237 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:48:18am

re: #218 littleoldlady

I really don’t want to say “I told you so”. I really don’t want my capitalist/communist cousin to go out of business, my podiatrist cousin to not be able to retire, and my brother (“He’s gonna be moderate if he wants to be re-elected”) to be stuck in that tiny Manhattan apartment forever.

The thing is, I have no kids as of now. It’s my nephew’s future that’s being mortgaged by his parent’s choice for president.

Of course, they’ll tell me it’s all Bush’s fault if I bring it up.

238 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:48:26am

re: #233 littleoldlady

aussie! :-)

{littleoldlady} good to see you!

I was trying to get here for fruitcup but I spent an hour on the phone with a dear friend who is still grieving for her marriage, two and a half years after her hubby decided to trade her in for a younger model

In a couple of weeks, we’re going into town for a very long lunch - and we’ll organise a limo driver to come and get us (limo driver = Mr Aussiemagpie)

239 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:49:45am

re: #238 aussiemagpie

A six martini power lunch?

/sounds like she deserves it.

240 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:50:06am

re: #236 BlueCanuck

I hope the hearing goes well in your favour.

Thanks. The best outcome is for my EH to accept my visitation offer before the whole process starts. Second best is for the mediator to suggest that he accept the offer. The mediator can’t MAKE either of us accept anything.

If we can’t agree, he can take his case to a judge. I’m resigned to have to deal with that later.

241 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:51:12am

re: #222 Carl in Jerusalem

A tumor?

I’m trying to decide which of them is the bigger moron.

By the way, I heard that Octomom is a ‘Palestinian’ (at least on her father’s side).

Perfectly within the national character….

No. She’s an American, through and through. Pig-headed entitlement is a trait present in all nations.

I feel for the grandmother because she cannot just kick that ungrateful cow out of the house because that would mean kicking out the six kids who already live there. However, her daughter’s disrespect is breath-takingly base.

I don’t know if I can bring myself to watch Part 2 of the video. I heard the audio played on the radio (a rock station, of all things, that has no morning show) yesterday morning and it pissed me off for hours and hours.

My parents took me in when I had to flee my abusive husband while I was pregnant. Heck, they flew in as the movers were packing me up and rented a car to take them back to Denver, over 1,000 miles away. I will forever be in their debt for this. Sure, we butted heads a bit but, I never would’ve dreamed of treating them as that selfish cow is treating her mother.

She should kiss the ground her parents tread. Instead, she treats her mother as if she’s a fucking moron worthy of derision and mocking.

I don’t blame her dad for going back to Iraq to be a translator for our forces. I’d rather be in a war zone than put up with that ingrate.

242 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:51:45am

re: #238 aussiemagpie

a dear friend who is still grieving for her marriage, two and a half years after her hubby decided to trade her in for a younger model

I have a friend in the same boat.

/except for her it’s been TEN YEARS
//and she DOESN’T drink!
///so there’s NO helping her!

243 NYCHardhat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:52:39am

DOW.
How low will it go?

244 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:52:40am

Good day, ALL!™

/redux

245 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:52:48am

re: #223 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, in fact, my anxiety/stress is maxing out right now. This afternoon my boys and I are going to a custody mediation with my EH. He is petitioning for joint legal custody.

AAAIIIYEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Stand fast, goddess. I’ll keep you and your sons in my thoughts and prayes.

246 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:52:49am

re: #238 aussiemagpie

{littleoldlady} good to see you!

I was trying to get here for fruitcup but I spent an hour on the phone with a dear friend who is still grieving for her marriage, two and a half years after her hubby decided to trade her in for a younger model

In a couple of weeks, we’re going into town for a very long lunch - and we’ll organise a limo driver to come and get us (limo driver = Mr Aussiemagpie)

Aussie, PLEASE tell your friend that you have another friend who endured the same thing. Tell her that in effect, her husband “died”—the fault is not hers but her husband’s pursuit of his own pleasure instead of his honor and commitments. Yes, it’s painful, but there isn’t anything she could have done.

Tell her that a real man wants to BE a man, not Peter Pan, and that she’s neither Tinker Bell nor Wendy.

I’m keeping her in my prayers.

247 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:53:42am

Bye littleoldlady. See you tomorrow morning.

248 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:54:45am

re: #240 goddessoftheclassroom

Thanks. The best outcome is for my EH to accept my visitation offer before the whole process starts. Second best is for the mediator to suggest that he accept the offer. The mediator can’t MAKE either of us accept anything.

If we can’t agree, he can take his case to a judge. I’m resigned to have to deal with that later.

IIRC, he doesn’t have a good record of being a dad before/during/after the divorce, does he?

249 jim in virginia  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:56:02am

Goddess, prayers for you.

250 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:56:24am

re: #238 aussiemagpie

with a dear friend who is still grieving for her marriage, two and a half years after her hubby decided to trade her in for a younger model

Why do some men do this? Is it a desperate bid to stay young themselves? (No, I am NOT excusing this.)

251 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:57:01am

re: #248 MandyManners

IIRC, he doesn’t have a good record of being a dad before/during/after the divorce, does he?

Correct. I’ve submitted a narrative to that effect. I’m fighting a family court mindset that it’s always in the children’s best interest for the parents to have joint legal custody. I have to show that in this case, it isn’t.

If it goes to a judge and he/she awards joint legal custody, I’ll have to communicate with the EH despite my have a court order protecting me from just that.

252 jim in virginia  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:57:02am

re: #243 NYCHardhat

DOW.
How low will it go?


Off 325 today.

253 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:58:06am

re: #239 BlueCanuck

A six martini power lunch?

/sounds like she deserves it.

Hi there!

Power lunch, though not with martinis - we’re both committed Aussie chardy and bubbly drinkers :-)

We both like to make sure the quality of Aussie wines is kept at a high standard, by regularly testing it :-)

254 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:58:12am

re: #250 MandyManners

Maybe. When I turned 30 mine took up with a 19 year old.

255 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 3:58:16am

Well, it’s a beautiful dawn here in Western PA—that helps, but not nearly as much as your sympathy and good wishes/prayers. I will get through this.

Have a great day!

256 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:00:14am

re: #242 littleoldlady

I have a friend in the same boat.

/except for her it’s been TEN YEARS
//and she DOESN’T drink!
///so there’s NO helping her!

Goodness, ten years? The woman needs help…send her here to me and I’ll soon have her drinking/

257 jim in virginia  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:01:30am
258 Crux Australis  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:02:21am

Hi aussiemagpie,

Do you think that Kevin Rudd is going to call an early election for either later this year or early next year (2010). I’m getting a little suspicious because Anna Bligh in Queensland is going early (March 21). 6 Months before the end of her term. If she does win it will be the first time a woman has won a state election in her own right in Australia’s history.

Somethings obviously going on behind the scenes. I wish I was still working at my old bosses electoral office at this time.

259 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:02:57am

re: #251 goddessoftheclassroom

Correct. I’ve submitted a narrative to that effect. I’m fighting a family court mindset that it’s always in the children’s best interest for the parents to have joint legal custody. I have to show that in this case, it isn’t.

If it goes to a judge and he/she awards joint legal custody, I’ll have to communicate with the EH despite my have a court order protecting me from just that.

I HATE rebuttable presumption. It is based upon the idea that both parties in all divorces are decent people and good parents, and that is not always the case.

260 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:03:43am

re: #246 goddessoftheclassroom

Aussie, PLEASE tell your friend that you have another friend who endured the same thing. Tell her that in effect, her husband “died”—the fault is not hers but her husband’s pursuit of his own pleasure instead of his honor and commitments. Yes, it’s painful, but there isn’t anything she could have done.

Tell her that a real man wants to BE a man, not Peter Pan, and that she’s neither Tinker Bell nor Wendy.

I’m keeping her in my prayers.

Thank you {goddess} I will tell her this - she is still blaming herself for being awful, stupid, unattractive etc etc None of which apply to her

I left you a message of support ^^^I’m thinking of you too and all the best for the mediation hearing

261 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:03:55am

re: #254 Killer Tomato

Maybe. When I turned 30 mine took up with a 19 year old.

Moron. What’ll happen when this one turns 30?

262 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:04:18am

re: #255 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, it’s a beautiful dawn here in Western PA—that helps, but not nearly as much as your sympathy and good wishes/prayers. I will get through this.

Have a great day!

GOOD LUCK!

263 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:04:35am

re: #252 jim in virginia

Off 325 today.

Is that a guess or based on the futures market?

/So much for yesterday’s rise - it was probably just technical

264 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:05:42am

re: #261 MandyManners

LOL
No idea - at some point you’d think they get too old to trade up/down. (unless they’re fabulously wealthy)

265 jim in virginia  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:05:43am

Wretchard has a sobering look at The Way Things Are

Brooks long ago learned to distrust people who thought they had all the answers. “The political history of the 20th century is the history of social-engineering projects executed by well-intentioned people that began well and ended badly.” And Obama sounds like he’s got a big project for us all.

I’m off to work Play safe y’all.

266 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:06:43am

re: #260 aussiemagpie

Thank you {goddess} I will tell her this - she is still blaming herself for being awful, stupid, unattractive etc etc None of which apply to her

I left you a message of support ^^^I’m thinking of you too and all the best for the mediation hearing

This might sound superficial and silly but, have you considered treating her to a few hours at a day spa, complete with a make-over? It’s not meant to convince her that she isn’t attractive but, that she IS. Sometimes a little indulgence goes a long way.

267 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:07:43am

re: #264 Killer Tomato

I was just going to say, look at Hugh Heffner lol. You’d have to pay a lot to date him.

268 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:08:02am

re: #264 Killer Tomato

LOL
No idea - at some point you’d think they get too old to trade up/down. (unless they’re fabulously wealthy)

Or, have a supply of Viagra.

269 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:08:11am

re: #265 jim in virginia


Later Jim.

270 SteveC  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:09:44am

Good morning, friends!

271 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:10:37am

I didn’t watch much of CBBHO’s speech last night but, looking at the footage on Fox this morning, I see what others commented on. She had a self-satisfied smirk that I’d love to see wiped off.

272 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:11:06am

re: #270 SteveC

Morning.

273 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:11:32am

re: #270 SteveC

‘Sup, pup?

274 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:12:50am

re: #268 MandyManners

Excuse me, could you pass the brain bleach?
Thanks.

275 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:14:12am

re: #250 MandyManners

Why do some men do this? Is it a desperate bid to stay young themselves? (No, I am NOT excusing this.)

Mandy, my friend had been with her husband since high school, and they were married for 34 years!

He’d taken off before years ago but they got back together - so this was no shock to their friends

He’s in a job where he’s surrounded by young women…

BTW my ex is getting married on Saturday and we’re going to the wedding :-)

His new bride is 20 years younger than him! However they are suited and she has been a friend for many years

We’ve been divorced for many years, and I’ve lived through a series of his girlfriends - a golddigger, a bimbo, a girl with definite problems, etc so at last he’s settling down with someone decent

Understanding men is a real challenge……

276 jim in virginia  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:15:12am

re: #263 Carl in Jerusalem
wild guess.
See you guys later.

277 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:15:32am

re: #274 Killer Tomato

Excuse me, could you pass the brain bleach?
Thanks.

Want the wire brush, too?

278 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:16:09am

re: #271 MandyManners

I didn’t watch much of CBBHO’s speech last night but, looking at the footage on Fox this morning, I see what others commented on. She had a self-satisfied smirk that I’d love to see wiped off.

I didn’t watch any of it, but frankly, I’m done with the slugs that took over my country (and I’m not exactly overwhelmed with the response from the other side of the aisle).
If I wasn’t one of the people in the US who are lucky enough to still be working full time, I’d start an opposition movement.
L.O.M.A.
Loyal Opposition, My Ass.
I don’t think there’s anything they’re doing, proposing or thinking about that I’m even remotely interested in being loyal to.

279 SteveC  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:16:43am

Well, after the Great One’s speech, I had a good night’s sleep…

… because I didn’t lie in bed trying to figure out what he really meant. It was all “Yes, you can have that… and you can have a little of this! Oh, you want a big helping, too? Well step right up!”

He intends to give the whole frakkin’ country away, and we’ve got to pay for it. Pretty easy to figure out.

280 3 wood  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:17:23am

Good morning.

Look for the market to open down slightly, for 2 reasons.

First, there will be the obligatory profit taking and short selling off of yesterdays rise.

Second, last night’s speech by the Messiah was not exactly President Reagan saying that our best day’s are still ahead of us, and he again was absent any details on the bank plan.

The bank stress test being done by Geithner is a joke. It is ni news to anyone that the banks are stressed. I think my black labrador knows that the banks are stressed. And the single biggest reason why they are stressed is this ridiculous “mark to market” standard that the SEC and the Treasury keep sticking to.

Giethner reminds me of the manager who does not know how to fix real problems in the office, so he looks busy doing all kinds of special projects instead.

281 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:18:29am

re: #275 aussiemagpie

Mandy, my friend had been with her husband since high school, and they were married for 34 years!

He’d taken off before years ago but they got back together - so this was no shock to their friends

He’s in a job where he’s surrounded by young women…

BTW my ex is getting married on Saturday and we’re going to the wedding :-)

His new bride is 20 years younger than him! However they are suited and she has been a friend for many years

We’ve been divorced for many years, and I’ve lived through a series of his girlfriends - a golddigger, a bimbo, a girl with definite problems, etc so at last he’s settling down with someone decent

Understanding men is a real challenge……

Thirty-four years? Oh, that must be a kick in the stomach! I hope the bastard reaps what he sows.

As for understanding men, I’m thinking raising The Kid might give me a few insights into the male psyche. One of my more important goals is to teach him to never, ever hit a woman.

282 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:19:33am

re: #275 aussiemagpie

Understanding men is a real challenge……

Hmmm, I have heard and said the same thing about women. :)


/men are simple, drink, eat, sleep. Everything else is just extras.

283 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:21:27am

re: #278 Killer Tomato

I didn’t watch any of it, but frankly, I’m done with the slugs that took over my country (and I’m not exactly overwhelmed with the response from the other side of the aisle).
If I wasn’t one of the people in the US who are lucky enough to still be working full time, I’d start an opposition movement.
L.O.M.A.
Loyal Opposition, My Ass.
I don’t think there’s anything they’re doing, proposing or thinking about that I’m even remotely interested in being loyal to.

Even if the plan had some good points in it, I couldn’t support those points because they’d come at the expense of the damage that will be done to the entire nation.

284 SteveC  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:22:20am

Guys are like Captain Kirk. We want to sit in the big comfy chair, right in front of the big screen TV, and have a lot of people answer our every beck and call.

285 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:22:38am

re: #280 3 wood

Good morning.

Look for the market to open down slightly, for 2 reasons.

First, there will be the obligatory profit taking and short selling off of yesterdays rise.

Second, last night’s speech by the Messiah was not exactly President Reagan saying that our best day’s are still ahead of us, and he again was absent any details on the bank plan.

The bank stress test being done by Geithner is a joke. It is ni news to anyone that the banks are stressed. I think my black labrador knows that the banks are stressed. And the single biggest reason why they are stressed is this ridiculous “mark to market” standard that the SEC and the Treasury keep sticking to.

Giethner reminds me of the manager who does not know how to fix real problems in the office, so he looks busy doing all kinds of special projects instead.

Pardon my ignorance but, what’s “mark to market”?

286 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:22:57am

re: #258 Crux Australis

Hi aussiemagpie,

Do you think that Kevin Rudd is going to call an early election for either later this year or early next year (2010). I’m getting a little suspicious because Anna Bligh in Queensland is going early (March 21). 6 Months before the end of her term. If she does win it will be the first time a woman has won a state election in her own right in Australia’s history.

Somethings obviously going on behind the scenes. I wish I was still working at my old bosses electoral office at this time.

I bet you still wish you were working there!

My prediction - an early Federal election as most people aren’t suffering enough yet so PM Rudd is still popular

He’d be worried about the publicity given to job losses now - this has been hushed up all last year even with big job losses in the financial sector

Now the union jobs are going - the gloss will come off Kevin soon enough

He also wants that emissions trading scheme up and running in 2010 and this would be impossible to sell in this climate - I reckon it will go on the backburner until after he’s re- elected early

287 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:23:54am

re: #275 aussiemagpie

Mandy, my friend had been with her husband since high school, and they were married for 34 years!

He’d taken off before years ago but they got back together - so this was no shock to their friends

He’s in a job where he’s surrounded by young women…

BTW my ex is getting married on Saturday and we’re going to the wedding :-)

His new bride is 20 years younger than him! However they are suited and she has been a friend for many years

We’ve been divorced for many years, and I’ve lived through a series of his girlfriends - a golddigger, a bimbo, a girl with definite problems, etc so at last he’s settling down with someone decent

Understanding men is a real challenge……

And understanding women isn’t?

/Happily married for 27+ years

288 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:24:01am

re: #284 SteveC

Guys are like Captain Kirk. We want to sit in the big comfy chair, right in front of the big screen TV, and have a lot of people answer our every beck and call.

I’ve been just dying to use this.

BTW, women are like that, too.

289 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:25:36am

Good Morning Lizards!

OK, I will admit right up front that I did not watch any of last nights drama. I can’t stand that stuff. SOTU addresses just aggravate me. All that political theater is such a waste of time. Mine and theirs.

I have a busy day ahead of me so I will be here very sporadically.

290 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:26:34am

re: #266 MandyManners

This might sound superficial and silly but, have you considered treating her to a few hours at a day spa, complete with a make-over? It’s not meant to convince her that she isn’t attractive but, that she IS. Sometimes a little indulgence goes a long way.

Mandy, thanks for the suggestion

She’s locked herself away really, except for work and I will give her a little gift voucher when we go out for lunch :-)

291 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:26:50am

re: #285 MandyManners

Pardon my ignorance but, what’s “mark to market”?

It means you have to use the real market value rather than the historical one.

Values of financial instruments move with interest rates and economic prospects. Marking them to market gives you their real value rather than their historical one.

292 yesandno  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:27:08am

Even though this wasn’t the SOTU, the fact they were in that hallowed chamber should have meant something to all of us.

For me, it was the first time I ever looked at the people who represent us with disdain and loathing. Ususally I can focus on the good. But last night I just saw pictures of people that lied and cheated and sold this country down the pike for a few bucks in kickbacks….power hungry narcissists.

As camera’s jumped from one “leader” to another, I saw the tax cheats, the race baiters, the ineffective, the anti-Americans and I was appalled.

Time to march on Washington………………

293 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:27:59am

re: #290 aussiemagpie

Mandy, thanks for the suggestion

She’s locked herself away really, except for work and I will give her a little gift voucher when we go out for lunch :-)

Is she morphing into depression that’s beyond situational depression?

294 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:28:24am

re: #287 Carl in Jerusalem

Here, here!

21+ years

295 SteveC  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:28:40am

re: #288 MandyManners

I’ve been just dying to use this.

BTW, women are like that, too.

I heard that record. Please, Scotty, if you love humanity….

I once saw Leonard Nimoy portray Sherlock Holmes. He was pretty awesome. Jeremy Britt did a good job on the BBC, but Nimoy was just as good.

296 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:28:56am

re: #291 Carl in Jerusalem

It means you have to use the real market value rather than the historical one.

Values of financial instruments move with interest rates and economic prospects. Marking them to market gives you their real value rather than their historical one.

So, what’s wrong with that?

297 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:30:11am

re: #266 MandyManners
Exellent idea!I know when my marridge failed i felt worthless.it took the help of some good friends to bring me around.

298 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:30:18am

re: #292 yesandno

Even though this wasn’t the SOTU, the fact they were in that hallowed chamber should have meant something to all of us.

For me, it was the first time I ever looked at the people who represent us with disdain and loathing. Ususally I can focus on the good. But last night I just saw pictures of people that lied and cheated and sold this country down the pike for a few bucks in kickbacks….power hungry narcissists.

As camera’s jumped from one “leader” to another, I saw the tax cheats, the race baiters, the ineffective, the anti-Americans and I was appalled.

Time to march on Washington………………

Pitch-forks and torches?

299 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:30:50am

re: #289 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning Lizards!

OK, I will admit right up front that I did not watch any of last nights drama. I can’t stand that stuff. SOTU addresses just aggravate me. All that political theater is such a waste of time. Mine and theirs.

I have a busy day ahead of me so I will be here very sporadically.

Didn’t watch it either. Saw the news item on Fox with the “we’re not quitters” letter the girl wrote from some school in SC.

I don’t get it. If you’re asking the gov’t to save you, isn’t that quitting on yourself ?
BamBam seemed to like that line, me not so much.

I’m digging holes….

300 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:31:00am

re: #298 MandyManners

Pitch-forks and torches?

THAT’s what I should’ve bought stock in.

301 SteveC  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:31:23am

re: #298 MandyManners

Pitch-forks and torches?

Water was all it took in The Wizard of Oz.

302 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:33:11am

re: #295 SteveC

I heard that record. Please, Scotty, if you love humanity….

I once saw Leonard Nimoy portray Sherlock Holmes. He was pretty awesome. Jeremy Britt did a good job on the BBC, but Nimoy was just as good.

As good as Brett? Wow. That’s high praise.

I’m reminded of David Suchet. Never was an equal to his portrayal of Poirot.

303 3 wood  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:33:46am

re: #285 MandyManners

Hi Mandy. “Mark to market” is a requirement that the banks value assets on their books based on whatever their market value is at the moment. The problem with this is it makes you overvalue assets in a good economy and undervalue them in a bad economy.

Imagine that you had to sell your house by the end of today, and everyone knew it. You’d be lucky to get 40 cents on the dollar for the property. But if you could sell it over the next few months, the price (value) you get would be much higher.

This requirement if “mark to market” if forcing banks to write down big losses based on that pricing mechanism, even on loans that will end up being good in the long run. This financially damages the banks and makes them not want to lend anymore.

If we just drop the “mark to market” stupidity and go back to what we used before that, which was discounted cash flows, this banking problem would be cut in half at least, and the banks would be willing to lend again.

But Geithner sticks with this insanity, I believe, cause he does not know what else to do.

It’s an obvious move to make and the fact that he does not do it is speaking loudly to the market that he is in over his head.

304 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:34:26am

I’m looking at Pelosi before she jumped to her feet last night. It appears that she had a list of cues—she was looking to something to her right on the table. Anyone else notice this?

305 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:34:59am

re: #281 MandyManners

Thirty-four years? Oh, that must be a kick in the stomach! I hope the bastard reaps what he sows.

As for understanding men, I’m thinking raising The Kid might give me a few insights into the male psyche. One of my more important goals is to teach him to never, ever hit a woman.

I always loved her hubby, we were a group of 3 couples, all of us with two kids each about the same ages, and we did everything together - holidays, parties, we even built houses in the same suburb

All three couples divorced - not a good record at all

As for teaching the kid not to hit women, I wish this was something that just was natural and didn’t need to be taught but I did the same with my boy

One thing that distressed me recently, a patient with cigarette burns and she was not telling anything about it to us

Just one of those things, she said….

306 3 wood  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:36:46am

re: #296 MandyManners

What’s wrong with is is forcing a spot market price on a long term asset.

Your house is not valued by the local tax assessor based on mark to market. It is done by comparable worth over time.

307 SteveC  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:36:49am

re: #299 SasquatchOnSteroids

Didn’t watch it either. Saw the news item on Fox with the “we’re not quitters” letter the girl wrote from some school in SC.

I don’t get it. If you’re asking the gov’t to save you, isn’t that quitting on yourself ?
BamBam seemed to like that line, me not so much.

I’m digging holes….

As an SC resident, I can tell you that yes, that area is in bad shape, in some cases even worse than what is portrayed. There is a documentary out called “Corridor of Shame” about schools along the I-95 corridor; that seems to be where a lot of the problems are focused. But when you go there to do practically anything to help, no one wants to show any gumption and try to help themselves. Everyone has their hand out, and the “What are YOU going to do for US?” attitude is everywhere.

308 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:36:53am

re: #282 BlueCanuck

Hmmm, I have heard and said the same thing about women. :)


/men are simple, drink, eat, sleep. Everything else is just extras.

LOL! There are so many books written about this!

309 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:37:26am

BTW, Boston Red Sox play their first Spring Training game at 7:05 tonight against the Twins! They have an exhibition game at 1:05 against Boston College. Spring is here! OK, it is about 25 degrees out right now, but still, Spring is here!

310 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:37:43am

re: #297 Boondock St. Bender

Exellent idea!I know when my marridge failed i felt worthless.it took the help of some good friends to bring me around.

Friends!

311 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:38:17am

re: #284 SteveC

Guys are like Captain Kirk. We want to sit in the big comfy chair, right in front of the big screen TV, and have a lot of people answer our every beck and call.

Have you been to my place then?/

312 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:38:29am

re: #300 Killer Tomato

THAT’s what I should’ve bought stock in.

It’s not too late! You might also wanna’ check out stock in tar and feathers.

313 right_wing2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:38:31am

Ronald Reagan 2012. He may be gone, but at least he’s not Obama.

314 3 wood  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:39:14am

Have to run to work. Later.

315 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:40:08am

re: #301 SteveC

Water was all it took in The Wizard of Oz.

What a world! What a world!


316 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:40:35am

re: #287 Carl in Jerusalem

And understanding women isn’t?

/Happily married for 27+ years

Hi Carl

BTW Great blog you have :-) And congratulations on a happy 27+ years marriage!

317 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:41:09am

Well time to bow out gracefully. Have a good one lizards, and I may lurk later. Stay scaly.

318 right_wing2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:41:23am

re: #307 SteveC

Unfortunately, it’s not just a lot of people in SC with the ‘What are you going to do for me’ attitude. It’s a lot of people around the country.

JFK once said ‘Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.’ The Democratic party (and too many Republicans) have turned that around 180 degrees.

319 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:41:44am

re: #303 3 wood

Hi Mandy. “Mark to market” is a requirement that the banks value assets on their books based on whatever their market value is at the moment. The problem with this is it makes you overvalue assets in a good economy and undervalue them in a bad economy.

Imagine that you had to sell your house by the end of today, and everyone knew it. You’d be lucky to get 40 cents on the dollar for the property. But if you could sell it over the next few months, the price (value) you get would be much higher.

This requirement if “mark to market” if forcing banks to write down big losses based on that pricing mechanism, even on loans that will end up being good in the long run. This financially damages the banks and makes them not want to lend anymore.

If we just drop the “mark to market” stupidity and go back to what we used before that, which was discounted cash flows, this banking problem would be cut in half at least, and the banks would be willing to lend again.

But Geithner sticks with this insanity, I believe, cause he does not know what else to do.

It’s an obvious move to make and the fact that he does not do it is speaking loudly to the market that he is in over his head.

Isn’t one big problem the lack of credit right now?

320 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:42:56am

re: #305 aussiemagpie

I always loved her hubby, we were a group of 3 couples, all of us with two kids each about the same ages, and we did everything together - holidays, parties, we even built houses in the same suburb

All three couples divorced - not a good record at all

As for teaching the kid not to hit women, I wish this was something that just was natural and didn’t need to be taught but I did the same with my boy

One thing that distressed me recently, a patient with cigarette burns and she was not telling anything about it to us

Just one of those things, she said….

Can you give her the numbers to local shelters and shrinks associated with them?

321 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:43:02am

re: #293 MandyManners

Is she morphing into depression that’s beyond situational depression?

I’m thinking that - that’s why I called her tonight

322 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:43:29am

re: #306 3 wood

What’s wrong with is is forcing a spot market price on a long term asset.

Your house is not valued by the local tax assessor based on mark to market. It is done by comparable worth over time.

It’s sinking in. Thanks for the explanations!

323 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:43:49am

re: #318 right_wing2

And what’s going on now is designed to create more and more of them. Much easier to rule a nation of people trained to sit on their butts and wait for direction than a nation of people whose attitude is “I don’t need/want anything from you - get out of my way”.

324 Bloodnok  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:44:50am

Good morning. I go to bed at 11:30 and I miss four new threads? I gotta start drinking coffee at night.

325 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:46:02am

re: #324 Bloodnok

I got an IV. Much more efficient.

326 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:46:33am

re: #296 MandyManners

So, what’s wrong with that?

It sometimes makes your financial statements not look very good.

When you’re a broker and you have to maintain something called the net capital ratio, the valuations of financial instruments matter in determining what you have to hold in safe accounts and what you can keep trading.

327 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:46:45am

re: #320 MandyManners

Can you give her the numbers to local shelters and shrinks associated with them?

Yes we did do that, and we know her lowlife partner too - he’s going to prison soon (we hope) on a drugs charge

328 SteveC  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:46:49am

re: #318 right_wing2

Unfortunately, it’s not just a lot of people in SC with the ‘What are you going to do for me’ attitude. It’s a lot of people around the country.

True, but I live here. This I can comment on and be reasonably certain I’m not just making noise. Other places…. not so much.

329 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:50:00am

re: #309 Ford_Prefect

BTW, Boston Red Sox play their first Spring Training game at 7:05 tonight against the Twins! They have an exhibition game at 1:05 against Boston College. Spring is here! OK, it is about 25 degrees out right now, but still, Spring is here!

Sox are playing tonight? That calls for Sweet Caroline….

330 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:50:51am

re: #316 aussiemagpie

Hi Carl

BTW Great blog you have :-) And congratulations on a happy 27+ years marriage!

Thanks and thanks again!

331 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:52:09am

re: #319 MandyManners

Isn’t one big problem the lack of credit right now?

Yes, but the banks have to keep certain capital ratios and if their assets are undervalued they have less available for lending.

332 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:53:04am

Headline in the Herald Sun

Obama Promises US the World….

That just about covers the speech?

333 scion9  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:54:18am

re: #332 aussiemagpie

Yeah. Pretty accurate.

334 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:55:35am

re: #321 aussiemagpie

I’m thinking that - that’s why I called her tonight

Good for you!

335 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:56:16am

re: #332 aussiemagpie

Headline in the Herald Sun

Obama Promises US the World….

That just about covers the speech?

With that group in charge? It’s more like “Obama promises the World the US”
(come and get it! ripe for the picking!)

336 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:57:09am

re: #326 Carl in Jerusalem

It sometimes makes your financial statements not look very good.

When you’re a broker and you have to maintain something called the net capital ratio, the valuations of financial instruments matter in determining what you have to hold in safe accounts and what you can keep trading.

Geithner looks/acts like a frat rat in his first job out of college.

337 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:57:12am

re: #333 scion9

Yeah. Pretty accurate.

No need to read all about it then :-)

We have our own version of Dear Leader here who is matching yours in throwing our hard earned around

338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:57:21am

Mmmmm. Holiday Inn Express coffee. Mmmmmm.

339 chicago blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:57:30am

Morning Lizards! Anyone else toss & turn last night?

340 chicago blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:58:21am

re: #338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OOO! Hey FBV, Did you wake & cake today?
*shamelessly holds her little paw out*
Cake? :)

341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:58:31am

re: #339 chicago blonde

All freakin’ night. All night.

342 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:59:13am

re: #335 Killer Tomato

With that group in charge? It’s more like “Obama promises the World the US”
(come and get it! ripe for the picking!)

With all those trillions President Obama could have bought half the world for you all/

343 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 4:59:21am

re: #327 aussiemagpie

Yes we did do that, and we know her lowlife partner too - he’s going to prison soon (we hope) on a drugs charge

Sometimes battered women hook up with a new partner who is cut from the same cloth as the old one in the mistaken belief that she *needs* a man in her life to give it validity.

344 chicago blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:00:05am

re: #341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah, me too. I’m nervous about what’s going to happen, then when I drift off one of the cats decides to play and jumps on my hair. Good thing I’m patient…

345 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:00:51am

re: #331 Carl in Jerusalem

Yes, but the banks have to keep certain capital ratios and if their assets are undervalued they have less available for lending.

So if they get rid of the “mark to market” thingy, there will be more money to loan. Why doesn’t Geithner not see this? Does he not want to see it? Is he determined to help wreck this nation?

346 Crux Australis  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:01:13am

re: #337 aussiemagpie

Today I heard Obamas address and then Kevin Rudd in question time in the Australian parliament straight after each other.

Talking about saying a lot but not saying much at all.

347 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:01:31am

re: #339 chicago blonde

Morning Lizards! Anyone else toss & turn last night?

No but, I dreamed that ACORN took over the National Weather Service and the SEIU.

348 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:02:07am

re: #343 MandyManners

Sometimes battered women hook up with a new partner who is cut from the same cloth as the old one in the mistaken belief that she *needs* a man in her life to give it validity.

That’s so true Mandy

For some women it’s a never ending supply of lowlife men drifting through their lives - often leaving a baby as a souvenir

349 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:02:35am

AmEx Encourages Cardholders to Leave

snips

It used to be that credit-card companies lured customers with cash rewards. Now American Express Co. is paying to get rid of them. The card issuer is offering selected customers a $300 AmEx prepaid gift card if they pay off their balances and close their accounts.

(Sounds like a good deal to me.)

Selected members — the company wouldn’t disclose how many — began receiving letters with the voluntary offer earlier this month, according to Molly Faust, an American Express spokeswoman. “It’s a relatively small number of cardmembers who have sizeable balances and little spending and payment activity,” she says.

(Sounds like good a good business move to me.)

“The intention is to help cardholders lower their debt and encourage responsible management of their credit,” says Ms. Faust. It’s being promoted as a means for customers to “simplify their finances.”

(OK, sounds like BS to me. They are not doing this for the customer, they are doing it for thenselves.)

This story has been getting negative coverage. I understand that it means fewer people with available credit, but it sounds as though these are people that have racked up large bills, aren’t paying them off and aren’t using them anymore. From a business stand point it would seem to make sense to get these people off their lists. I don’t have a problem with it. Opinions?

350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:02:39am

I listened to Doh!bama’s speech last night. It was really sweet, lets see, his personal stories…

Rich man gives away all his wealth, voluntarily
Town re-builds after tornado, using green (hippie) technology
Girl says, can you come and fix my school….

The America he wants….

Haves to the have-nots
Windmills (as long as Teddy and John can’t see them)
Daddy Gubment to fix everything.

351 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:03:05am

re: #347 MandyManners

You win!
Man, I just tossed around and had a cat trying to give me a mohawk, but I didn’t have any hell dreams…

352 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:03:15am

re: #345 MandyManners

Is he determined to help wreck this nation?


Yes. If you want to build a new building on an existing city block, you need to demolish the building that’s there.

353 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:03:18am

re: #329 Carl in Jerusalem

Sox are playing tonight? That calls for Sweet Caroline….

Yeah baby! (Can you tell I am excited?)

354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:03:24am

re: #344 chicago blonde

Be careful.

Freakin’ cat’ll steal your breath.

355 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:03:44am

re: #346 Crux Australis

Today I heard Obamas address and then Kevin Rudd in question time in the Australian parliament straight after each other.

Talking about saying a lot but not saying much at all.

Crux

I just NEVER listen to PM Rudd as I just can’t bear to hear his voice or look at his smug mug

Saves me getting angry :-)

356 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:04:55am

I wouldn’t have been able to bear the sight of watching Telebama with Thing 1 and Thing 2 behind him.

I skipped it, went to bed, and woke up feeling good.

357 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:05:13am

re: #354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mr. Blonde says I’m too long-winded to worry ‘bout that.

358 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:06:08am

re: #353 Ford_Prefect

Hey Ford! Coffee today buddy, or are you so energized by the Sox you don’t need it?

359 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:06:53am

re: #348 aussiemagpie

That’s so true Mandy

For some women it’s a never ending supply of lowlife men drifting through their lives - often leaving a baby as a souvenir

I’m loathe to blame the victim but, sometimes she has a flashing, neon sign over her head reading, “VICTIM”. Many need to work on themselves in therapy.

360 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:08:59am

Good Morning LGF.

Rant on:

I find it physically sickening to watch as good people exercise such restraint and tie themselves up in constitutional knots while the precious right to freedom of speech is so brazenly abused by assorted political and religious zealots and racists as a cover for their openly discriminatory, hate-filled, xenophobic, pet grievances.

Holocaust denial, tolerance or even approval of genocides, calls for mass deportations of entire religious groups, vilification of the entire capitalist system, violent religious fundamentalism, attacks on the scientific curriculum, and any number of other assaults on our societal structures - take your pick. As the shrill cacophony increases in volume and scope, the sheer noise threatens to drown out attempts at rational discussion and debate of important mainstream political and religious issues.

Is it paranoid to worry that all this screaming and hatred may ultimately result in the limits of free speech soon being overwhelmed and even submerged - not because of any particular position, but rather because of the cumulative disruption of society’s ability to conduct rational debate? And if so, can the erosion of cherished liberties be far behind?

Rant off.

361 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:09:43am

re: #350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I listened to Doh!bama’s speech last night. It was really sweet, lets see, his personal stories…

Rich man gives away all his wealth, voluntarily
Town re-builds after tornado, using green (hippie) technology
Girl says, can you come and fix my school….

The America he wants….

Haves to the have-nots
Windmills (as long as Teddy and John can’t see them)
Daddy Gubment to fix everything.

I wonder if it was a coincidence that The Weather Channel featured Greensburg’s green rebuilding yesterday.

362 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:10:12am

Good Morning Comrades. Everybody have tingly legs last night.

363 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:11:02am

re: #362 opnion

Nope, just a queasy stomach.

364 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:11:21am

This is a quick chart and tech analysis of the Dow. We appear to have developed into a pattern known as a ‘falling channel’(the area I’ve noted in the brackets and between the two falling, parallel green lines) - a pattern considered bearish.

In the lower portion of the chart, I’ve underlined a couple of rising indicator’s and pointed to the corresponding rise(or even fall) in the Dow - this is a pattern we should expect to repeat itself in the near future.

Currently we appear to be in for a short-term rally(dead-cat); either to a level indicated by the lowest of the horizontal ‘white lines’(a resistance/support line) or to the upper bounds of the the ‘falling channel’ as indicated by the (1) - at which time the markets should resume their decline.

If by some chance we break-out of the upper bounds of the channel, this might be an indication of a reversal but at present there certainly doesn’t seem to be any grounds for optimism.

Personally, I’ve one position underwater which I hope to get out of with this little pop, after that, it’s all cash -baby- and stay short.

This is not a recommendation/solicitation and should only be considered for informational purposes, take-it for what its worth.

365 SteveC  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:11:21am

re: #362 opnion

Good Morning Comrades. Everybody have tingly legs last night.

Yes, but I took my medication and sat down, and it passed.

366 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:11:22am

re: #352 Killer Tomato

Yes. If you want to build a new building on an existing city block, you need to demolish the building that’s there.

Well, they’re not just demolishing the building. They’re destroying the water and electric lines, too.

367 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:11:56am

re: #358 Chicago Blonde

Hey Ford! Coffee today buddy, or are you so energized by the Sox you don’t need it?

What is this need thing? I just want it.
Do you have french vanilla?

368 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:12:42am

re: #366 MandyManners

Well, they’re not just demolishing the building. They’re destroying the water and electric lines, too.

Utilities, infrastructure - it’s all overrated.
/

369 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:12:49am

re: #351 Chicago Blonde

You win!
Man, I just tossed around and had a cat trying to give me a mohawk, but I didn’t have any hell dreams…

I’m glad my cat had a tendonectomy. At 22 pounds (mostly muscle), he could do some serious damage.

370 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:12:59am

re: #359 MandyManners

I’m loathe to blame the victim but, sometimes she has a flashing, neon sign over her head reading, “VICTIM”. Many need to work on themselves in therapy.

Many of these women come from the same background - welfare mentality, no-one with a job in the family for generations, women used and abused, drugs, alcohol - it’s a different world they live in
and the support they get is the kind that keeps them in that life - welfare agencies whose employees would be out of jobs if they really worked on getting these people out of the welfare pit

371 Beach Lover  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:13:28am

Morning, Lizards. Yuck…Schumer on F&F right now. Did you see him last night when dear leader announed that “this mess we inherited”…Schumer shot up, leered at the GOP side and gleefully clapped. Geesh, what an idiot.

372 legalpad  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:13:50am

re: #349 Ford_Prefect

Good idea. Amex hasn’t liked me since my divorce. They keep their own special credit records.

373 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:14:11am

re: #360 Spare O’Lake

Good Morning LGF.

Rant on:

I find it physically sickening to watch as good people exercise such restraint and tie themselves up in constitutional knots while the precious right to freedom of speech is so brazenly abused by assorted political and religious zealots and racists as a cover for their openly discriminatory, hate-filled, xenophobic, pet grievances.

Holocaust denial, tolerance or even approval of genocides, calls for mass deportations of entire religious groups, vilification of the entire capitalist system, violent religious fundamentalism, attacks on the scientific curriculum, and any number of other assaults on our societal structures - take your pick. As the shrill cacophony increases in volume and scope, the sheer noise threatens to drown out attempts at rational discussion and debate of important mainstream political and religious issues.

Is it paranoid to worry that all this screaming and hatred may ultimately result in the limits of free speech soon being overwhelmed and even submerged - not because of any particular position, but rather because of the cumulative disruption of society’s ability to conduct rational debate? And if so, can the erosion of cherished liberties be far behind?

Rant off.

You’re in fine form today!

We’re catching it from all sides.

And, no. It’s not paranoia. They ARE out to get us.

374 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:14:23am

re: #366 MandyManners

Personally, I think the entire program should be titled ‘the bridge to nowhere’ because that’s exactly where we’re headed.

375 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:14:33am

re: #367 Ford_Prefect

I can add a bit of vanilla for you, but sorry, just plain java.

376 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:14:40am

re: #362 opnion

Good Morning Comrades. Everybody have tingly legs last night.

No but, that reminds me that I gotta’ go pee.

377 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:14:52am

re: #365 SteveC

Yes, but I took my medication and sat down, and it passed.

Very wise, but be advised that the phenomenon will persist for the next four years.

378 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:15:21am

re: #369 MandyManners

Aw, big boy! Mine only damaged my sleep, the little brat…

379 summergurl  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:15:32am

re: #349 Ford_Prefect

AmEx Encourages Cardholders to Leave

snips


(OK, sounds like BS to me. They are not doing this for the customer, they are doing it for thenselves.)

This story has been getting negative coverage. I understand that it means fewer people with available credit, but it sounds as though these are people that have racked up large bills, aren’t paying them off and aren’t using them anymore. From a business stand point it would seem to make sense to get these people off their lists. I don’t have a problem with it. Opinions?

The idea that all credit is good credit is ludicrous. Banks have money for people with good payment history and jobs. If you can’t, or haven’t paid your debts, why is it necessary to “free up” credit for you? It’s not.
This is not a credit crisis, it is a repayment crisis.

It is the culmination of our years of poor lending practices and the forcing down the bank’s throat the CRIA. Becoming squatters in homes that are foreclosed on that we can’t afford, credit card companies paying down some of our balances…we are becoming a nation of irresponsible borrowers; a bailout mentality has enveloped the masses.

We need to suck it up and let the free market work this out. Maybe, heaven forbid, not buy something we can’t afford. Owning a home is not a right. We rented for years until we had saved enough for a down payment - our first home wasn’t much but it was a palace to us because we earned it.

380 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:15:40am

re: #375 Chicago Blonde

I can add a bit of vanilla for you, but sorry, just plain java.

Oh, what the heck. As long as it is hot.

*holds out mug.

381 SteveC  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:16:15am

re: #371 Beach Lover

Morning, Lizards. Yuck…Schumer on F&F right now. Did you see him last night when dear leader announed that “this mess we inherited”…Schumer shot up, leered at the GOP side and gleefully clapped. Geesh, what an idiot.

There was a guy on Fox yesterday morning getting HAMMERED, and of course he turned around and blamed everything on GWB. We got to figure a way to get them off of that page.

382 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:16:28am

re: #368 Killer Tomato

Utilities, infrastructure - it’s all overrated.
/

Let’s make sure that the unions demand three supervisors for every two workers when the lines are replaced!

383 summergurl  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:16:59am

re: #369 MandyManners

I’m glad my cat had a tendonectomy. At 22 pounds (mostly muscle), he could do some serious damage.

well my dog is 6 pounds soaking wet. She can lie on my stomach at night and all I get is a slight ab workout…

384 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:17:50am

re: #370 aussiemagpie

Many of these women come from the same background - welfare mentality, no-one with a job in the family for generations, women used and abused, drugs, alcohol - it’s a different world they live in
and the support they get is the kind that keeps them in that life - welfare agencies whose employees would be out of jobs if they really worked on getting these people out of the welfare pit

I’ve seen DV in middle-class and upper-class situations here, and I bet it’s that way in Australia. The difference is that women from those backgrounds usually have the means to cover it up better.

385 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:18:02am

re: #371 Beach Lover

I watched on Fox news…did you see the one GOPer stretch his hands out in disgust/disbelief when that was said? Good on him.

386 SteveC  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:19:12am

My turn to act productive! I hope everyone has a great day!

387 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:19:13am

re: #374 Killer Tomato

Personally, I think the entire program should be titled ‘the bridge to nowhere’ because that’s exactly where we’re headed.

More like “The Bridge to Socialism” ‘cause that’s where CBBHO and his comrades in Congress and the MFM want us to go.

When a man tells you who he is, believe him.

388 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:19:22am

re: #380 Ford_Prefect
*Adding some fresh half & half*

There you go.

389 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:19:40am

Gotta’ get the day rolling for The Kid. bbl

390 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:22:31am

re: #387 MandyManners

More like “The Bridge to Socialism” ‘cause that’s where CBBHO and his comrades in Congress and the MFM want us to go.

When a man tells you who he is, believe him.

Right, he is who he told us he is. I saw a poll somewhere just before the election that something like 26% of Americans favor Socialism.
I would qustion that, excepy I have extended family members that would be in that 26%.

391 lurking faith  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:23:48am

re: #349 Ford_Prefect

Well, in the current market they could be raising fees or interest rates on these customers, to rake in extra cash off the debts, but instead they’re offering cash back to holders of static accounts who are in a position to pay off their balance. A lot of companies would just quietly turn the screws.

Now, there’s a good chance that many of these customers won’t be able to pull out savings or tap other credit to pay off their AmEx account, but if they can do it, it might be a good deal for them.

However, any time you close a credit line, your credit rating can take a hit, because one part of your score depends on the ratio of how much you owe to how much credit you have available. So closing a credit card account is normally a bad idea for anybody who expects to make a large purchase or refinance anytime soon.

392 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:24:23am

re: #384 MandyManners

I’ve seen DV in middle-class and upper-class situations here, and I bet it’s that way in Australia. The difference is that women from those backgrounds usually have the means to cover it up better.

Yes you’re right - domestic violence can happen in all classes -and don’t forget men can suffer silently as well

393 right_wing2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:25:44am

re: #323 Killer Tomato

And if you do have the ‘get out of my way’ attitude, you’re portrayed as selfish & greedy.

394 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:26:00am

re: #388 Chicago Blonde

*Adding some fresh half & half*

There you go.

mmmmm. Delicious. Many thanks.

395 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:26:43am

re: #390 opnion

Ever wonder how many young people with no knowledge of history or no idea of what socialism really means think it’s a great idea?

396 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:27:20am

re: #394 Ford_Prefect

Any time!

397 Beach Lover  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:28:26am

re: #385 Chicago Blonde
No, I missed that. I just couldn’t believe he has the guts to say out right lies now, and is getting away with it. Without somebody somewhere getting thru the haze of deception, we are certainly doomed. At least, in time to change anything. Still say he has to hurry to shove this all down our collective throats before the truth can get out there. I’m so frustrated our party leaders are so “complacent” for lack of a better word right now.

398 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:28:44am

re: #395 Chicago Blonde

Ever wonder how many young people with no knowledge of history or no idea of what socialism really means think it’s a great idea?

Thats the really disturbing part. Ask them where socilaism has or is workink & you get an eye roll. Not an answer, just an eye roll.

399 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:30:02am
400 right_wing2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:30:56am

re: #371 Beach Lover

‘Up’ Chuck Schumer?

401 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:31:05am

re: #393 right_wing2
Yup - that’s me - Miss Selfish & Greedy!

re: #395 Chicago Blonde
Therein lies the problem. Speaking of which -

Massachusetts - The Board of Elementary and Secondary Education voted 8-2 Tuesday to waive for at least two years the history and social science subject graduation requirement slated to kick in for students in the class of 2012.
402 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:32:39am

re: #397 Beach Lover

There was a small group sitting stock-still last night as he spoke, not standing up or even clapping, that it did my heart some good. If just one comes forward and we can help him or her get the word out…

403 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:32:47am

Is that Olberdouche saying “Oh God” before Bobby Jindal speaks?
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com…]

Our media is so unprofessional.

404 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:33:28am

re: #395 Chicago Blonde

Ever wonder how many young people with no knowledge of history or no idea of what socialism really means think it’s a great idea?

The thing with socialism, and even communism, is that, on the surface, it sounds like a good idea. Everybody is equal and has what they need. You don’t have to worry about money, etc. The problem is that they both run completely contrary to human nature and, therefore, will simply never work on a large scale. There will always be people that are lazy-good-for-nothings that will suck the system dry. The people that are good hard workers will then end up being resentful of the lazy people that do nothing and still get whatever they want. Young people often haven’t learned that lesson yet and so they think the idea sounds idyllic.

405 right_wing2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:33:38am

The Obamessiah has met my expectations at this point in his administration.

I thought he’d be doing a terrible job, and I expected he’d be doing everything he could to sprint towards socialism, and he is.

406 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:33:56am

re: #398 opnion

Thats the really disturbing part. Ask them where socilaism has or is workink & you get an eye roll. Not an answer, just an eye roll.

“Like, dude, he’s going to take care of EVERYTHING. Chillax!”

Don’t get me started…

407 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:34:12am

re: #401 Killer Tomato

Massachusetts - The Board of Elementary and Secondary Education voted 8-2 Tuesday to waive for at least two years the history and social science subject graduation requirement slated to kick in for students in the class of 2012.


Sorry - hurried cut & paste - left out…

History testing in all grades (grades 5, 7, and 10/11) for 2009 and 2010 as well as the graduation requirement for high school students will be suspended. The high school History and Social Science exam was slated to become part of the state’s graduation requirement for students beginning with the class of 2012.


History? Who needs to know about that?
/////

408 right_wing2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:35:06am

re: #404 Ford_Prefect

Exactly right. And at some point, the people who work and have everything taken from them are going to say ‘F-ck it’, and stop working too.

409 right_wing2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:36:34am

re: #407 Killer Tomato

History? Who needs to know about that?
/////

Let me guess- they’ve decided some ethnic studies, Obama Worshipping and global warming-environmental activism classes come first?

410 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:36:53am

re: #408 right_wing2

Exactly right. And at some point, the people who work and have everything taken from them are going to say ‘F-ck it’, and stop working too.

Either that or they decide to put their work ethic toward overturning the system. Either way the system breaks down.

411 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:37:08am

re: #404 Ford_Prefect

And I remembered when I were a wee sprog in school they never talked about that aspect of it. The history classes were odd - a mix of superficial, with extreme detail being given to obscure things. I swear I remember being given the same packet on Sumerian city-states twice in two years and we barely glossed over, say, Russia/Stalin.

412 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:38:05am

re: #395 Chicago Blonde

Ever wonder how many young people with no knowledge of history or no idea of what socialism really means think it’s a great idea?

The Mighty Litter Kicker thinks that socialism means you have to share your litter box, with the feline done the hall…:)

413 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:38:45am

re: #401 Killer Tomato

And here I see they’re waiving more. *sigh*

Hey, I’m selfish and greedy with you, sister…

414 Crux Australis  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:38:48am

Is it true that American Idol was preempted for Obamas address?

415 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:39:46am

re: #409 right_wing2

Let me guess- they’ve decided some ethnic studies, Obama Worshipping and global warming-environmental activism classes come first?

Hey - there’s only so many hours in a day, ya know.

416 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:40:45am

re: #411 Chicago Blonde

That is true. I always thought it odd that my American History class in High School ran out of time right around the beginning of the 20th century. We never really got to WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, FDR, Kennedy… And we never really discussed the current government, which for me was Reagan.

417 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:41:08am

re: #412 Dustyvet

Hey buddy!

In true Feline Socialism, all kitties would share all boxes, but some kitties would be more equal and get larger boxes with fresh litter (for the good of the Kitty Worker Party of course).

418 yochanan  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:41:15am

re: #201 Carl in Jerusalem

He was a monster in your closet. The problem is that now he has come out….

my wife used to tell the stories of the ‘mamaliga’ under the bed.
hand made matzah esp the round ones hard as a rock we could toss’um at the pali.

419 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:41:31am

This has to be one of the funniest things I have seen in a while…

CUM vs MILF Headline Contest

Taliban forces in the tribal areas have just joined together to form a united front against the Pakistani government. Their new organization?

Council of United Mujahideen, or CUM. I kid you not.

Best jihadi acronym ever?

Or does that title still belong to the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, or MILF?

CUM.

It’s like they want us to mock them.

Tomorrow’s headlines, today:

“New Video: Taliban CUM on Filipino MILF”

Heh.

420 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:41:39am

Good morning all.

So - I missed the big show last night. (I went to the Banff Film Festival instead - awesome)
I missed the semantic gymnastics, the rhetorical flourishes, the bullshit, the deception, the empty promises, and the display of a democrat attempting to act and sound like Ronald Reagan.

How was it?

421 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:43:11am

re: #406 Chicago Blonde

“Like, dude, he’s going to take care of EVERYTHING. Chillax!”

Don’t get me started…

Obama is to a lot of people who they want him to be. He has told us who he is & yeyt many just ignore that part. For many though, they know who he is & buy in.

422 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:43:39am

re: #416 Ford_Prefect

You too? Did it make you crazy too? We studied the Colonies and American Revolution so many times…of course that was important but yeah, where was Watergate? Where was WWII, which we again glossed over? And no, no mention of Viet Nam.

423 yesandno  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:44:09am

re: #343 MandyManners

Sometimes battered women hook up with a new partner who is cut from the same cloth as the old one in the mistaken belief that she *needs* a man in her life to give it validity.

Kind of like how the people in need see the government!

424 yochanan  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:44:09am

re: #419 NJDhockeyfan

This has to be one of the funniest things I have seen in a while…

CUM vs MILF Headline Contest

Heh.

now i have to wipe the tea off the monitor. ROFLMAO

425 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:45:02am

re: #421 opnion

For what it’s worth, I know. I do not buy in.

426 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:46:49am

re: #421 opnion

Obama is to a lot of people who they want him to be. He has told us who he is & yeyt many just ignore that part. For many though, they know who he is & buy in.

I know who and what he is, and I’m not buying…period! The frigging village idiot sits in the White House. With work, just maybe we can make him a one-termer in 2012!

427 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:46:56am

re: #425 Chicago Blonde

For what it’s worth, I know. I do not buy in.

Because you are actually thinking & have a sense of history.

428 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:48:11am

re: #426 Dustyvet

I know who and what he is, and I’m not buying…period! The frigging village idiot sits in the White House. With work, just maybe we can make him a one-termer in 2012!

That is a beautiful thought, but to stop the bleeding, let’s turn over the House in 2010.

429 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:48:26am

re: #427 opnion

Thanks. That and a sense of horror when I think about all that money being spent.

430 Chicago Blonde  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:49:17am

Guys, I’m gonna miss you. Gotta go for the day, I’ll be back tonight if I can.

431 lurking faith  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:49:22am

re: #360 Spare O’Lake

Response rant on:

Various stripes of leftists deliberately began a takeover of our educational system and our informational media, with the goal of indoctrinating us with the idea that there is no truth. Later leftists ran further amok and have been assiduously training the last couple of generations to believe that logic is the tool of the oppressor and that therefore argument does not need logic or evidence to be valid.

How do we hold a rational public discourse when much of the public has been trained to be unable to follow a rational argument, unable to distinguish between rational arguments and mere rhetorical flourishes, and unwilling to accept any argument that doesn’t tell them they are entitled to instant gratification all the time and without effort?

I know there have always been and will always be people who can’t reason their way out of a wet paper bag, and people who can think but often won’t take the trouble, but I fear the results of the deliberate crippling of minds that should have been fully functional. A crucial element of America’s strength has been its encouragement of ingenuity and self-reliance. We have been allowing the left to chip away at that quality for generations, to our great peril.

Rant off.

432 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:50:05am

re: #428 opnion

That is a beautiful thought, but to stop the bleeding, let’s turn over the House in 2010.

Yup, I was getting to that…:)

433 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:50:23am

re: #429 Chicago Blonde

Thanks. That and a sense of horror when I think about all that money being spent.

It is like a comedy, except it is setting up an actual disaster.

434 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:51:46am

re: #414 Crux Australis

Is it true that American Idol was preempted for Obamas address?

I thought Obama is The American Idol.

435 lurking faith  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:52:17am

re: #381 SteveC

There was a guy on Fox yesterday morning getting HAMMERED, and of course he turned around and blamed everything on GWB. We got to figure a way to get them off of that page.


Well, the economy overall did very well under GWB, in spite of 9/11/01, until the Democrats took back control Congress. Hmmmmm…

436 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:57:21am
437 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:58:32am

re: #436 FrogMarch

redundant. redundant.

438 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 5:59:51am

Well comrades, I need to go talk to my investment guru and see about Mandy’s stock recommendations -
Torches
Pitchforks
Tar
Feathers
Maybe I’ll look into Rails, too.
Have a good day, all! I’ll check in later.

439 lurking faith  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:02:23am

re: #404 Ford_Prefect
I was taught the Tragedy of the Commons in school, both in history and in econ (twice each: middle school and high school). Don’t they teach about that anymore?

Seriously, if you think about it for more than two minutes, it becomes obvious that communism or socialism clashes with human nature and fails in any but the smallest communities. I don’t have much respect for the brains of anybody who thinksbelieves otherwise.

440 lurking faith  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:03:03am

re: #434 Carl in Jerusalem

I thought Obama is The American Idol.


Please, let him not sing.

441 Beach Lover  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:03:45am

re: #435 lurking faith

ya know, there’s always a little truth to what they say…but just a little. Bush did spend a lot, but look at the economy when those decisions were being made. and congress spends the money…the DEMS were in charge the last 2 years of spending. Interest rates were down, inflation a non event and jobs were plentiful. None of the problems we have now were even on the radar when we were rolling happily along. The GOP should mention this every chance they can get. It all started falling apart for the economy when the WOT no longer could be the issue for the Dems to take over the White House. Just my humble opinion.

442 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:05:39am

re: #440 lurking faith

Please, let him not sing.

“The One’s swan song for 2012”…:)

/s


443 godfrey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:05:49am

Morning, lizards. Here’s a truth that needs to be told widely:

Obama has already blown at least twice as much money in his first month in office as the total cost of the Iraq War.

Change!

444 lurking faith  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:08:39am

Well, lizards, I’m off to a job fair. I don’t have high hopes of this one, but still… wish me luck!

bbl

445 Beach Lover  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:10:26am

re: #444 lurking faith
Good Luck!

446 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:10:46am

re: #437 rightside

redundant. redundant.

Yeah. yeah.

447 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:12:45am

re: #444 lurking faith

Well, lizards, I’m off to a job fair. I don’t have high hopes of this one, but still… wish me luck!

bbl

Good luck!

I haven’t had a full time job since my last contract at Ford ended 2 years ago. If it wasn’t for the Zionist Mall I’d be in deep shit.

449 Beach Lover  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:15:10am

good comments over at NRO…



Wednesday, February 25, 2009

Is He Really This Ignorant? [Charles Murray]


About halfway through the speech, my wife, watching me mutter darkly at the television screen, said: “Why are you so upset? He hasn’t said anything.” And that pretty much sums it up.

I know the speech was supposed to be upbeat and not for policy wonks.

But I’m worried that it’s not just a matter of what he chooses to put in speeches, but what he knows. It looks very much as if the president is oblivious to everything we’ve learned about social programs and educational reforms in the last 40 years—and by “we” I include policy analysts on the left as well as right. The guy never indicates that he is aware that we’ve tried a whole bunch of the same stuff he wants to try and evaluated it repeatedly and—read my lips—it doesn’t work.

He makes a great candidate, though.

450 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:18:52am

Obama’s Elf


451 SurferDoc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:22:20am

If He falls off the mound of bullshit he is adding to every time He opens his mouth, will the fall just break His ankle or our asses?

452 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:22:56am

re: #349 Ford_Prefect
High balances,little activity.brilliant idea,if these folks had the cash to pay off their balances….don’t you think they would have by now..unless folks enjoy the orgasmic thrill of paying intrest on their purchases.Perhaps am/ex is betting folks would roll over the debt owed to them onto another card?If any other companies take that lying down,well,they deserve what they get.
And so am/ex ushers in the retail credit card meltdown…(this has been simmering for months now,the floodgates may have just opened.)

453 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:24:37am
454 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:24:38am

You’re not the only ones suffering with an egomaniac

Our jet setting PM Rudd…..

PRIME Minister Kevin Rudd has splurged close to $3.4 million on overseas travel since coming to power, making him one of Australia’s most extravagant jet-setters.

The globe trotting PM has racked up one overseas trip every month on average - and spent close to one in six days on foreign soil.

Taxpayers have paid a hefty price for Mr Rudd’s 15 global trips but the PM is stoutly defending the amount of time he spends meeting world leaders.

But with the Government now forecasting a hefty budget deficit, the Opposition has slammed the travel costs an “absolute disgrace” and branded the PM “Emperor Kevin”.

One 18-day odyssey to the US, Belgium, Romania, Britain and China cost $640,749, according to details obtained by The Daily Telegraph.

Five-star accommodation and meals cost just over $100,000 while the cost of commercial airfares for Mr Rudd’s advance team hit $52,000.

Mr Rudd took 11 of his personal staff and wife Therese Rein, along with a flotilla of public servants, security personnel and his personal GP.

Meanwhile us poor plebs at home are earning the money to keep Kevin 747 in his grand lifestyle..*spit*

455 topazpilot  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:24:43am

Evidence of one of Obama’s many lies. Obama insinuated that the school had not been touched since it was built 150 years ago and that it is falling apart. Relevant quote:

On November 8, 1980, the central portion of the main building was destroyed by fire. The administrative office, the library, and 16 classrooms were obliterated. While this portion of the school was being rebuilt, students attended school in Little Rock. New facilities were completed in March of 1983. Also, during the summer of 1982, the classrooms in the white building were remodeled.

Oh, white is referring to the color of the building and not a segregated building. FYI.

Here is the website for the school. Doesn’t look too bad to me. I’ve been to rundown schools in my youth and they didn’t look nearly as nice.

If you check out the media center you see that they have a computer lab, in school television studio, and video production and editing equipment.

No money? Check this out! Every year they take a school sponsored trip to Washington, D.C. When I was in school, in southern Georgia, we were lucky to be able to go on a school field trip to the Okefenokee swamp. Seriously! When I was in high school we went to Atlanta one year.

456 Amer-I-Can  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:26:09am

Good Morning Lizards! It’s official:

Kansas City Tea Party - Sponsored by Blind Mule

Come One, Come All to the Walk A Mile In MY Responsible Shoes Tea Party.

Bring Your Signs and Your Tea
Join Responsible Americans in peaceful protest aginst the Congressional Theft Act 2009 and the Swindle Us Mortgage Bail Out

Where To Meet: J.C. Nichols Fountain, 47th and J.C. Nichols Parkway K.C.MO.

1Mile Walk To: Senator Claire McCaskill (D) K.C. Office 4141 Pennsylvania Ave. K.C.MO.

Although American Tea Party and PJTV will list some of the planned Tea Party protests, we cannot vouch for their legitimacy.

I don’t know who else will be there, but I will… with bells on. I am open to suggestions for a good sign though…

457 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:26:19am

Salutations, everyone.

I completely ignored Obama’s speech last night and instead focused on getting dishes done, making muffins, and watching an episode of House from a few weeks back that I had missed. And it was far more thought provoking than Obama could ever have been.

To my ears, all of Obama’s speeches sound the same. So I’m sure I missed nothing of value last night. The media will cover up for him, anyway.

458 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:26:41am

Is it me, or is the final withdrawal of the troops coinciding with the peak 2010 mid-term elections?

Just want to know if anyone else caught that, or was I fashionably late for the dance as usual?

459 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:26:56am

re: #454 aussiemagpie

Magpie,

I just got some wonderful news from down under…:)

460 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:28:43am

re: #458 smokefire

Is it me, or is the final withdrawal of the troops coinciding with the peak 2010 mid-term elections?

Just want to know if anyone else caught that, or was I fashionably late for the dance as usual?

Nope, he’s sent the surrender message loud and clear…

/S

461 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:28:55am

re: #455 topazpilot

Evidence of one of Obama’s many lies. Obama insinuated that the school had not been touched since it was built 150 years ago and that it is falling apart. Relevant quote:

Oh, white is referring to the color of the building and not a segregated building. FYI.

Here is the website for the school. Doesn’t look too bad to me. I’ve been to rundown schools in my youth and they didn’t look nearly as nice.

If you check out the media center you see that they have a computer lab, in school television studio, and video production and editing equipment.

No money? Check this out! Every year they take a school sponsored trip to Washington, D.C. When I was in school, in southern Georgia, we were lucky to be able to go on a school field trip to the Okefenokee swamp. Seriously! When I was in high school we went to Atlanta one year.

That’s the school Obama’s complaining about? Oy. My junior high was far worse than this, and I’ve seen neighborhood schools that were almost as bad as mine. This is nothing.

462 Amer-I-Can  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:29:14am

Oh, and the “March” is organized on Facebook for anyone who has an account.

463 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:30:09am

re: #458 smokefire

Is it me, or is the final withdrawal of the troops coinciding with the peak 2010 mid-term elections?

Just want to know if anyone else caught that, or was I fashionably late for the dance as usual?

Good point. The last I saw of the porkulus spending much of it seemed to coincide with the next presidential election though that may have changed as I stopped following it closely as I found it just made me ill.

Of course, even though AQI seems flat on its back doesn’t mean things can’t change if we don’t keep up the pressure.

464 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:31:16am

re: #460 Dustyvet
How else are they gonna pay for any of this porkulus/union buy off/donk backer/repub shills/ bipartisan theivery? Gut the military. Clinton did it. That turned out well.////

465 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:31:34am

Should be some good stuff to comment on later today,as the reveiws of hopeychanges pep-rally last nite come in.
I’m batting the times has a headline along the lines of:
Fearless messiah ushers in new golden age!eleventy!11

466 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:31:39am

re: #456 Amer-I-Can

I don’t know who else will be there, but I will… with bells on. I am open to suggestions for a good sign though…

Stop the madness before we get Tetley.

467 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:32:35am

Good morning y’all - from a moderate (35 degrees, going up to 56 degrees) but mostly cloudy Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

468 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:32:42am

re: #460 Dustyvet

Dusty…………that was not what I meant. I mean, if things continue as they are, won’t the bringing home of the troops, at that specific time boost some of the Liberal Left’s candidates chances in the November elections?

469 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:32:46am

re: #459 Dustyvet

Magpie,

I just got some wonderful news from down under…:)

Hi there! OK what is this news? *Dying of curiousity*

470 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:33:05am

re: #465 Boondock St. Bender
Whoops…betting…PIMF..sigh

471 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:33:15am
472 Cathypop  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:33:31am

re: #458 smokefire

Is it me, or is the final withdrawal of the troops coinciding with the peak 2010 mid-term elections?

Just want to know if anyone else caught that, or was I fashionably late for the dance as usual?


Exactly!

473 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:33:45am

re: #467 realwest
Mornin’ RW. We are doing as fine as the hair on a frogs’ back this am.

474 Pianobuff  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:33:54am

And in other news, Arnold will be playing a weak and unprincipled girlie-man in an upcoming Stallone flick.

475 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:33:58am

re: #459 Dustyvet

Magpie,

I just got some wonderful news from down under…:)

re: #469 aussiemagpie

Hi there! OK what is this news? *Dying of curiousity*

Dusty’s “chafing problem” has been resolved !

// j/k

476 topazpilot  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:33:59am

re: #458 smokefire

It didn’t occur to me until you mentioned it. Not surprised though with Democrats playing politics with the military.

477 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:34:07am

re: #467 realwest

Morning real. 35 will be our high today.

478 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:34:25am

re: #467 realwest

Morning realwest! spring is coming soon.

479 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:34:58am

re: #467 realwest

Good morning y’all - from a moderate (35 degrees, going up to 56 degrees) but mostly cloudy Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

*Smooch* {darls} I’m wonderful and how are you? :-)

I’m extra happy because I’ve just completed most of a course, just a little exam to go!

480 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:35:12am

re: #458 smokefire

1st thing I thought of. Same thing I thought when they rolled out the timetable for the stimulus spending

481 topazpilot  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:35:21am

re: #465 Boondock St. Bender

Did you hear about the comment Olberdork made about Governor Jindal when he walked out? “Oh my God” or something like that.

482 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:35:54am

re: #473 pingjockey
Morning ping, glad to hear that! I’m as fine as fresh spun cotton candy myself!

483 topazpilot  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:36:16am

re: #474 Pianobuff

If Ahnald is the future of the Republican Party then…God love ‘em.

484 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:36:24am

re: #475 sattv4u2

Dusty’s “chafing problem” has been resolved !

// j/k

LOL! As it’s late here and I’m always a lot more brain challenged at this time of night, it took me a minute or two to get that…..

485 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:36:33am

re: #481 topazpilot

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com…]

486 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:36:45am

re: #467 realwest

I’m fine, and you?

OT HERE
Special info, for cook book owners, I will add a note of caution, when making the Spicy Thai Burgers.

Take Tums or some other Anti-Acid product.

Did a little variation on the Thai Burgers, and made Thai Meat Loaf. Was very good, but Damn, the acid/heartburn later was a killer.

Just a note of caution.

487 topazpilot  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:37:31am

re: #480 sattv4u2

Now the enemy knows our exit strategy and timetable. Good job Obama. A lot of people are going to die for your political career.

488 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:37:47am

re: #477 Ford_Prefect
Hi Ford! Gee, I’m sorry to hear that - y’all must be pretty cold right now if 35 is gonna be your high today!

489 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:38:32am

Good morning all!

What’s going on?

Things are grey and cold in Obamaland (Illinois). I’m doing fine, but I really wish reality would catch up with His Pretenderness.

490 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:38:51am

re: #481 topazpilot

This is even better. Biden, who is supposed to be taking a lead roll in letting the public know where all the money os going to go can’t remember the name of the website set up for us to track it

[Link: wbztv.com…]

491 topazpilot  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:39:01am

re: #485 sattv4u2

Sounds like Olberdork.

492 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:39:02am

re: #469 aussiemagpie

Hi there! OK what is this news? *Dying of curiousity*


I found my “Adopted Son, and two Grand kids” from Sydney, through Face Book. and they sent me a message this morning…:)

493 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:39:23am

re: #478 Boondock St. Bender Hey there BSB! THAT”S what they keep TELLING US. I’ll believe it when I see it myself!
Crap - three weeks ago it was in the low 60’s here, then we spent two weeks with evening and early morning temps in the 20’s!
How are you doing today?

494 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:39:44am

re: #481 topazpilot
Ahh,yes,classy as always.That jack-ass is gonna step on his dick big time one day.His contempararies must have to bite their tongues at his amatuerish antics.I’m not a big fan of Ann Coulter,but would love to see her slap him around for a little while.

495 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:39:52am

If Obama and dems think that

Old buildings = bad education,

someone really needs to get on the phone to Oxford and Cambridge and tell them.

496 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:40:02am

re: #477 Ford_Prefect

Damn Ford………………..It’s New England, it’s winter, of course it’s going to be cold. Cmon Bud, we New Englanders should be able to handle it.

497 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:40:21am

re: #484 aussiemagpie

LOL! As it’s late here and I’m always a lot more brain challenged at this time of night, it took me a minute or two to get that…..

No it’s not, I lost my chaffing dish in the divorce settlement…:)

498 topazpilot  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:40:32am

re: #490 sattv4u2

I saw that on Fox and Friends this morning. Unbelievable! No one messes with Joe because Joe doesn’t know shit!

499 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:40:47am

re: #479 aussiemagpie Hey good morning - late night? to you *smooch*! What course have you been studying and for how long?

500 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:41:23am

re: #486 smokefire

I’m fine, and you?

OT HERE
Special info, for cook book owners, I will add a note of caution, when making the Spicy Thai Burgers.

Take Tums or some other Anti-Acid product.

Did a little variation on the Thai Burgers, and made Thai Meat Loaf. Was very good, but Damn, the acid/heartburn later was a killer.

Just a note of caution.

Thai Meatloaf? Sounds delicious! Link to a recipe?

501 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:41:26am

re: #497 Dustyvet

No it’s not, I lost my chaffing dish in the divorce settlement…:)

A chaffing dish? Not a bad euphemism for an ex-wife.

502 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:41:27am

re: #490 sattv4u2

This is even better. Biden, who is supposed to be taking a lead roll in letting the public know where all the money os going to go can’t remember the name of the website set up for us to track it

[Link: wbztv.com…]

“Chuck ,,,stand up.. let them see ya… oh God love ya,, what am I talking about!”

503 topazpilot  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:41:28am

re: #494 Boondock St. Bender

Well, I think he’d rather have Hannity slap him around. He seems to have Hannity on the brain. Perv.

504 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:41:29am

re: #489 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Good morning all!

What’s going on?

Things are grey and cold in Obamaland (Illinois). I’m doing fine, but I really wish reality would catch up with His Pretenderness.

ATTITUDE CHECK!

////////SSSS

505 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:42:12am

re: #502 sattv4u2

“Chuck ,,,stand up.. let them see ya… oh God love ya,, what am I talking about!”



Rimshot

506 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:42:56am

re: #492 Dustyvet

I found my “Adopted Son, and two Grand kids” from Sydney, through Face Book. and they sent me a message this morning…:)

That is just wonderful! How lovely! No wonder you’re so happy :-) And now I’m happy for you!

Through Facebook, we’ve found some long lost friends - met them after 15 years just before Christmas

And an old schoolfriend found me too…

507 topazpilot  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:43:32am

re: #502 sattv4u2

Biden is like everyone’s crazy old uncle who says the most ridiculous shit but we always say, “Oh, that’s just good ol’ Joe!” A complete laughingstock.

508 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:44:02am

re: #489 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Good morning LT! Well, you’re sure as hell gonna have to wish very hard indeed for that to happen!
I hate it when Presidents “lecture us” - hey you idjit, we (well ok, not me, but a majority of voters) hired your ass now get to work!
How are you doing today, other than idle daydreaming, I mean?!?

509 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:44:15am

re: #493 realwest
Fine.My oldest is home sick(12 yrs.old)but he’s on the upswing,and begining to be more himself again.
Oh and the weather,same here.we were in shirtsleeves three weeks ago,then the cold came back(hate it when that happens!)
I keep looking for the Crocus to pop their little heads up.

510 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:44:24am

Morning all.

And this tidbit from the Politics section of today’s NYT

“Mrs. Obama’s super-sculpted arms are the result of years of effort.”

Oh, and Barbra Bush wears fake pearls.

I missed the threads on O’s speech last night. Was everybody respectful?

The turnwife cracked me up last night, she said Blinky must have a spring on her ass the way she was jumping up to applaud the one at every line.

511 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:44:25am

re: #505 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Rimshot

seriously,,, the part that REALLY irked me is when Biden “recovered” and realized what he had said, he had the audacity to say “old pal” to the guy. I would think that I would know if any of my “old pals” were in a wheelchair or not!

512 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:44:25am

“Obama loves me this I know,
for the stimulus tells me so!”

S/

513 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:44:39am

Ford Prefect, this is for you, Loppy, and all of those other New England Lizards

* If you consider it a sport to gather your food by drilling through 36 inches of ice and sitting there all day hoping it will swim by, you might live in New England.
* If you’re proud that your region makes the national news 96 nights each year because Mt. Washington is the coldest spot in the nation, and Boston gets more snow than any other majority in the US, you live in New England.
* If your local Dairy Queen is closed from September through May, you live in New England.
* If you instinctively walk like a penguin for six months out of the year, you live in New England.
* If someone in a Home Depot store offers you assistance, and they don’t work there, you live in New England.
* If you’ve worn shorts and a parka at the same time, you live in New England.
* If you’ve had a lengthy telephone conversation with someone who dialed a wrong number, you live in New England.


YOU KNOW YOU ARE A NEW ENGLANDER WHEN:
* “Vacation” means going anywhere south of New York City for the weekend.
* You measure distance in hours.
* You know several people who have hit a deer more than once.
* You have switched from “heat” to “A/C” in the same day, and back again.
* You can drive 65 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching.
* You install security lights on your house and garage, but leave both unlocked.
* You carry jumper cables in your car and your girlfriend/wife knows how to use them.
* You design your kid’s Halloween costume to fit over a snowsuit.
* Driving is better in the winter because the potholes are filled with snow.
* You know all 4 seasons: almost winter, winter, still winter, and road construction .
* Your idea of creative landscaping is a statue of a deer next to your blue spruce.
* “Down South” to you means Philadelphia.
* Your neighbor throws a party to celebrate his new shed.
* Your 4th of July picnic was moved indoors due to frost.
* You have more miles on your snow blower than your car.
* You find 10 degrees “a little chilly.”

* You actually understand these jokes, and forward them to all your New England friends.

514 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:44:44am

re: #495 Silhouette

If Obama and dems think that

Old buildings = bad education,

someone really needs to get on the phone to Oxford and Cambridge and tell them.

There’s always the old “have a fundraiser, buy some paint and caulk and fix it up some” thing.

Or you could sit there and wait for the Federal Government to come the rescue.

/we are so screwed. Our local school district is dirt poor and couldn’t afford a real baseball diamond (they played on a nearby town’s JrHS diamond, which just wasn’t right). My wife spearheaded a fundraising effort combined with the sweat equity of the parents and the team. We built the damn thing (first season is this year). I guess we should have written a letter to the Feds claiming that we “don’t quit” instead.

515 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:45:23am

re: #504 Dustyvet

ATTITUDE CHECK!

////////SSSS

Pissed off.

Does that count?

516 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:45:28am

Good morning lizards.
The holocaust-denying bishop arrived in London, raised his first to a reporter. Lovely.Scuffle with Reporter

517 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:45:52am

re: #497 Dustyvet

No it’s not, I lost my chaffing dish in the divorce settlement…:)

LOL! Of course you really miss the dish :-)

518 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:45:58am

re: #492 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty!

I found my “Adopted Son, and two Grand kids” from Sydney, through Face Book. and they sent me a message this morning…:)

How did ya lose track of ‘em and I’m really very happy that you’ve found them and that they’ve responded to you!

519 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:46:00am

re: #495 Silhouette

If Obama and dems think that

Old buildings = bad education,

someone really needs to get on the phone to Oxford and Cambridge and tell them.

And he spends like $24k to put his girls through one year of private school. Imagine how much peeling paint could be repaired with that money.

520 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:46:10am

re: #500 Leonidas Hoplite

It’s in the LGF cook book, under Thai Burgers.
One of my contributions to the cookbook

521 redstateredneck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:46:24am

re: #508 realwest

re: #506 aussiemagpie

Good Morning, {real} *smoochie-smoochie*!

And Good Morning to {all the rest of y’all}.

{aussie}
Great news about renewing old friendships!

522 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:46:52am

re: #495 Silhouette
Damn, that was just really GOOD and FUNNY! Thanks!

523 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:46:54am

re: #508 realwest

Good morning LT! Well, you’re sure as hell gonna have to wish very hard indeed for that to happen!
I hate it when Presidents “lecture us” - hey you idjit, we (well ok, not me, but a majority of voters) hired your ass now get to work!
How are you doing today, other than idle daydreaming, I mean?!?

Doing good. That main line of bullshit last night was just too much. Platitudes… I hate platitudes.

524 yochanan  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:47:04am

off to the salt mines have a good day my lizards.

525 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:47:16am

re: #503 topazpilot

Hannity would do his usual shtick,and it could be spun as a draw.Ann,that acid tounge would make him hurt.

526 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:47:30am

re: #516 Wishing

Good morning lizards.
The holocaust-denying bishop arrived in London, raised his first to a reporter. Lovely.Scuffle with Reporter

lol fist! PIMF!

527 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:47:41am

re: #515 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Pissed off.

Does that count?

Yup but I was, oh never mind, I’m not ready to say F*** IT yet…:)

528 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:47:49am

re: #513 smokefire

upding to you. Those are all true. I was born and raised just outside of Boston. Lived there for most of the 1st 45 years of my life.

529 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:47:53am

re: #507 topazpilot

Biden is like everyone’s crazy old uncle who says the most ridiculous shit but we always say, “Oh, that’s just good ol’ Joe!” A complete laughingstock.

America has become like the South in which I grew up. Instead of hiding our crazy relatives in the attic, we bring them down to the parlor and even out to the veranda.

530 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:48:20am

re: #503 topazpilot

Well, I think he’d rather have Hannity slap him around. He seems to have Hannity on the brain. Perv.

He is actually obsessed with Hannity. Obviously Hannity get’s under his skin.
I know that it is not a unanimous opinion, but I like him.(Hannity)

531 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:48:27am

Later folks. Y’all have a good day.

532 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:49:00am

re: #499 realwest

Hey good morning - late night? to you *smooch*! What course have you been studying and for how long?

Darls, it’s part of a Reproductive and Sexual Health course I’m doing, so I can do certain *ahem* procedures and run women’s screening clinics :-)

The course is 4 modules over a year

533 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:49:19am

re: #530 opnion

He is actually obsessed with Hannity. Obviously Hannity get’s under his skin.
I know that it is not a unanimous opinion, but I like him.(Hannity)

Hell ,, I like Hannity just BECAUSE he gets under Olbermans skin!

534 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:49:37am

re: #510 turn

Morning all.

And this tidbit from the Politics section of today’s NYT

“Mrs. Obama’s super-sculpted arms are the result of years of effort.”

Oh, and Barbra Bush wears fake pearls.

I missed the threads on O’s speech last night. Was everybody respectful?

The turnwife cracked me up last night, she said Blinky must have a spring on her ass the way she was jumping up to applaud the one at every line.

I watched very little of the speech—even with the sound on MUTE—but this morning I noticed in the clips that Pelosi seemed to look down, to her right, right before she popped up. Did she have a set of instructions?

535 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:49:44am

re: #517 aussiemagpie

LOL! Of course you really miss the dish :-)

LOL…:)

536 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:50:06am

re: #529 MandyManners

……Mandy, correct if I am wrong here, but didn’t they say the same thing about Rev Wright, calling him that crazy uncle?

537 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:50:26am

re: #515 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Pissed off.

Does that count?

Better pissed off than pissed on but, I think we’re getting pissed on, too.

538 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:50:50am

re: #533 sattv4u2

Hell ,, I like Hannity just BECAUSE he gets under Olbermans skin!

That’s reason enough right there.

539 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:51:05am
540 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:51:07am

re: #527 Dustyvet

Yup but I was, oh never mind, I’m not ready to say F*** IT yet…:)

Being PO’d doesn’t involve F*** IT for me… more a call to action.

But we’ll deal with that later… when the proverbial shit hits the wall.

541 Cato  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:51:17am

re: #3 Confuzed

I have no doubt that my children will live a better life than I have. In fact, they already have. But it will not be because of this glib and unknowing man who is now our president or the preening idiots who surround him. It will be because millions of us want to make our lives better and can transmit the information necessary to do that to others. It is because one good idea can spread throughout the world in an instant and elevate millions. It is irrelevant that he and his cronies do not have that idea — or any idea at all except those found on Prius bumper stickers. He shall pass into oblivion but Atlas will not shrug.

542 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:51:28am

re: #534 MandyManners

I watched very little of the speech—even with the sound on MUTE—but this morning I noticed in the clips that Pelosi seemed to look down, to her right, right before she popped up. Did she have a set of instructions?

No ,, there was a little guy there that pushed the Ejector Seat Button so Pelosi would fly up at the proper times. She was looking down at him giving him cues

543 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:51:32am

re: #516 Wishing

Ahhh,That “old Time religion”(please noone link to the “inherit the wind”opening…thank you)

544 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:51:35am

re: #537 MandyManners

Better pissed off than pissed on but, I think we’re getting pissed on, too.

………….yeah, and they are trying to tell us that we are getting rained on, not pissed on.

545 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:51:55am

re: #536 smokefire

……Mandy, correct if I am wrong here, but didn’t they say the same thing about Rev Wright, calling him that crazy uncle?

If they did, I missed it.

546 topazpilot  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:51:58am

re: #525 Boondock St. Bender

Completely agree, but I was speaking of Obama’s preference. He is always namechecking Hannity so I think he has a mancrush on the guy.

547 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:52:01am

re: #496 smokefire

I’m not complaining. I’m just trying to make realwest feel better about his weather.

548 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:52:18am

re: #537 MandyManners

Better pissed off than pissed on but, I think we’re getting pissed on, too.

Morning Mandy!

How are things in the big city?

549 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:52:25am

re: #544 smokefire

………….yeah, and they are trying to tell us that we are getting rained on, not pissed on.

Rain…it’s bloody monsoon…!

550 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:52:56am

Two things about Hannity: he is just DYING to be mentioned in the same breath as Rush and I think he trolls for women callers.
Oh and way too much *Look at me!* stuff.

551 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:53:27am

re: #534 MandyManners

I watched very little of the speech—even with the sound on MUTE—but this morning I noticed in the clips that Pelosi seemed to look down, to her right, right before she popped up. Did she have a set of instructions?

Don’t know, but I noticed Charles posted Biden must have been checking his Blackberry for cues. Probably joking but they might have been prompted, who knows. She did have a piece of paper she kept looking at I noticed.

552 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:53:39am

re: #521 redstateredneck

re: #506 aussiemagpie

Good Morning, {real} *smoochie-smoochie*!

And Good Morning to {all the rest of y’all}.

{aussie}
Great news about renewing old friendships!

Hi {redstateredneck} Feeling better?

It was so good to find each other again too - especially all our kids (who did the initial getting together on Facebook)

553 redstateredneck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:53:49am

I didn’t watch the speech at all last night. Read the transcript this morning. It helps to not get me so worked up. Plus, I miss a lot of what is said because I’m screaming back at the television.

554 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:54:02am

re: #549 Dustyvet

Rain…it’s bloody monsoon…!

…………….and it’s not 40 days and 40 nights worth either.
More like 4 years worth of days and 4 years worth of nights

555 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:54:14am

re: #552 aussiemagpie

Hi {redstateredneck} Feeling better?

It was so good to find each other again too - especially all our kids (who did the initial getting together on Facebook)

What time is it down there…:)

556 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:54:38am

re: #550 Wishing

Two things about Hannity: he is just DYING to be mentioned in the same breath as Rush and I think he trolls for women callers.
Oh and way too much *Look at me!* stuff.

Listening to Rush vs Hannity confirms (in case there was any doubt) that there is a thing called talent.

It’s like watching the Yankees play the Toledo Mudhens…

557 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:55:03am

re: #539 buzzsawmonkey

You wouldn’t have a spare julep or two handy, by any chance?

Why, certainly, suh. May Ah interest you in a serving of some of mah fine grits to go with your chicken-frahd steak? Do you like them with one or two pats of buttah?

558 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:55:14am

re: #550 Wishing

Two things about Hannity: he is just DYING to be mentioned in the same breath as Rush and I think he trolls for women callers.
Oh and way too much *Look at me!* stuff.

ALL the shows do. The majority of callers to conservative syndicated shows has always been male. People like Dennis Prager and Hugh Hewitt often do shows that they will only take calls from females. IMHO, it’s to try to show that conservatives are NOT just older white males.

559 topazpilot  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:55:21am

re: #545 MandyManners

Obama himself said it, calling Rev. Wright “an old uncle who says things I don’t always agree with.”

560 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:55:26am
561 UFO TOFU  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:55:32am

re: #523 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Platitudes… I hate platitudes.

I’m listening to several employees discussing the speech (I’m actually pretty surprised any of them watched it). They’re raving about what a great speaker he is, how it won’t be long before all the unemployed construction workers go back to work and housing becomes more affordable. I’m getting blurry-eyed from shaking my head.

562 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:55:46am

re: #556 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Listening to Rush vs Hannity confirms (in case there was any doubt) that there is a thing called talent.

It’s like watching the Yankees play the Toledo Mudhens…

Rush is entertaining. Hannity ain’t.

563 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:55:58am

re: #537 MandyManners
Obama said it was rain….

564 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:56:01am

re: #542 sattv4u2

No ,, there was a little guy there that pushed the Ejector Seat Button so Pelosi would fly up at the proper times. She was looking down at him giving him cues

So, that’s what George Soros has been up to lately.

565 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:56:11am

re: #558 sattv4u2

ALL the shows do. The majority of callers to conservative syndicated shows has always been male. People like Dennis Prager and Hugh Hewitt often do shows that they will only take calls from females. IMHO, it’s to try to show that conservatives are NOT just older white males.

In Hannity’s case, he wants the fawning. Icky.

566 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:56:29am

re: #544 smokefire

………….yeah, and they are trying to tell us that we are getting rained on, not pissed on.

Our noses still work.

567 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:56:35am

re: #551 turn

Don’t know, but I noticed Charles posted Biden must have been checking his Blackberry for cues. Probably joking but they might have been prompted, who knows. She did have a piece of paper she kept looking at I noticed.

He was checking the house roster to see if any are in wheelchairs so he wouldn;t ask them to ‘stand up” and take a bow later!

//

568 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:56:37am
569 topazpilot  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:56:44am

re: #550 Wishing

Yeah, sometimes he’s a little too rah rah and robotic when he starts citing his stats and talking points. He is definitely not Rush, but who can compare to El Rushbo? I’d take Hannity, though, over Glenn Beck or some of the other talk radio hosts.

570 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:57:00am

re: #559 topazpilot

thanks topaz, I thought it was the O, but was not 100% sure.

571 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:57:13am

re: #555 Dustyvet

What time is it down there…:)

It’s almost 1.57am :-(

Which means it’s almost bedtime as it’s work, work, work soon….

572 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:57:33am

re: #548 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning Mandy!

How are things in the big city?

I don’t know about the big city but, things are as quiet as usual in my village. The birds are singing, the daffodils are blooming and the trees are budding.

573 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:57:54am

re: #571 aussiemagpie

It’s almost 1.57am :-(

Which means it’s almost bedtime as it’s work, work, work soon….

Thank you…:)

574 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:58:16am

re: #551 turn

Don’t know, but I noticed Charles posted Biden must have been checking his Blackberry for cues. Probably joking but they might have been prompted, who knows. She did have a piece of paper she kept looking at I noticed.

Biden actually had a Blackberry out? Are you kidding me?

575 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:58:24am

re: #553 redstateredneck

I didn’t watch the speech at all last night. Read the transcript this morning. It helps to not get me so worked up. Plus, I miss a lot of what is said because I’m screaming back at the television.

Glad to know I”m not the only one who screams at the tube. BTW, you didn’t miss much, he did a great delivery on empty promises. How are you supposed to cut the deficit in half when all you are proposing is to spend, spend, spend? I know, cut the military and increase taxes.

576 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:58:36am

re: #572 MandyManners

I don’t know about the big city but, things are as quiet as usual in my village. The birds are singing, the daffodils are blooming and the trees are budding.

Wow! How nice! Where are you, Mandy, that spring has spung?

577 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:58:53am

re: #572 MandyManners

I don’t know about the big city but, things are as quiet as usual in my village. The birds are singing, the daffodils are blooming and the trees are budding.

Really?

I thought you were in NYC. My bad.

Certainly sounds warmer than where I am. :-(

578 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:58:55am

re: #509 Boondock St. Bender Sorry to hear about your oldest being ill, but glad to hear he’s getting better!
I’m not waiting on the damn Crocus - what if they’re late?!? I want spring and I want it now!
[Link: www.imeem.com…]

579 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:59:01am

re: #569 topazpilot

Yeah, sometimes he’s a little too rah rah and robotic when he starts citing his stats and talking points. He is definitely not Rush, but who can compare to El Rushbo? I’d take Hannity, though, over Glenn Beck or some of the other talk radio hosts.

See if Dennis Prager and/ or Hugh Hewitt are available in your area. Michael Medved is good also

580 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:59:17am

OT, When will the LGF cookbook be on the NYT Best Seller List?

581 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:59:19am

re: #559 topazpilot

Obama himself said it, calling Rev. Wright “an old uncle who says things I don’t always agree with.”

Well, I wouldn’t associate with even a REAL uncle who said those things.

582 redstateredneck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:59:35am

re: #568 buzzsawmonkey

I’ll pass on the grits, thanks all the same; the butter wouldn’t go with the chicken-fried steak. But the steak and the juleps sure sound tasty.


How about rice and gravy to go with the chicken fried steak?

583 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 6:59:53am
584 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:00:15am
585 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:00:19am

re: #563 Boondock St. Bender

Obama said it was rain….

If he said that the sun rose in the east, I’d get up before dawn just to check.

586 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:00:35am

re: #567 sattv4u2

He was checking the house roster to see if any are in wheelchairs so he wouldn;t ask them to ‘stand up” and take a bow later!

//

Someone linked to that youtube video of his gaffes yesterday. I actually cringed when he made that one, what a doofus.

587 bolivar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:00:49am

re: #392 aussiemagpie

Yes you’re right - domestic violence can happen in all classes -and don’t forget men can suffer silently as well

There is no excuse to hit a woman - nor is there an excuse to hit a man - so there! Violence breeds violence. I am no peacenik and if somebody hits me they better watch out but, I try to work stuff out verbally and with reason. People that have to hit have small intellects. Do you agree?

588 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:00:57am

re: #575 turn

Glad to know I”m not the only one who screams at the tube. BTW, you didn’t miss much, he did a great delivery on empty promises. How are you supposed to cut the deficit in half when all you are proposing is to spend, spend, spend? I know, cut the military and increase taxes.

He couldn’t cut the military enough to pay for the stimulus porkage.

589 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:01:11am

re: #521 redstateredneck
Hey {red} *smoochie’s* to you too! How are you doing today?

590 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:01:16am

re: #585 MandyManners

If he said that the sun rose in the east, I’d get up before dawn just to check.


I’ve tried that, but Dawn always got me “up” 1st! ,Darn, I miss her !

591 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:01:57am

re: #580 smokefire

OT, When will the LGF cookbook be on the NYT Best Seller List?

I was wondering how the sales were going.

592 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:02:09am

re: #568 buzzsawmonkey

I’ll pass on the grits, thanks all the same; the butter wouldn’t go with the chicken-fried steak. But the steak and the juleps sure sound tasty.

Would you lahk some gravy on your steak or to the sahd? How about a side of frahd-green tomatoes?

593 bolivar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:02:13am

re: #583 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, Spring is here. I heard the First Robbin’ addressing Congress last night.

Thought that was a PEAcock.

594 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:02:19am

re: #557 MandyManners

How do you like your grits,well done,regular or al dente’?

595 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:02:22am

re: #574 MandyManners

Biden actually had a Blackberry out? Are you kidding me?

He was probably getting off-color jokes texted to him from various staffers.

596 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:02:36am

re: #586 turn

Someone linked to that youtube video of his gaffes yesterday. I actually cringed when he made that one, what a doofus.

One would need a 24 hour cable channel set aside for “all” of them!

597 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:02:51am

Well, if nothing else, Obama is creating the world’s greatest bank of sound bites that can be used to illustrate unfulfilled promises…

/not that he seems to be deterred by the idea of his words coming back to haunt him.

598 redstateredneck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:02:59am

re: #589 realwest

Hey {red} *smoochie’s* to you too! How are you doing today?

I’m doing well and it’s HUMP DAY! Always good to be on the downside toward the weekend.

599 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:03:06am

re: #586 turn

I am waiting for either the video or book on Joe Biden’s Greatest Gaffes.
Rate them right up there with Gerald Ford’s pratfalls, golf, tennis problems,

Lyndon Johnson’s showing us his scar, and pulling the ears on the dogs.

Now there would be a book on the NYT’s Best Seller list.

600 redstateredneck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:03:29am

re: #591 turn

I was wondering how the sales were going.

I have got to order my copy. I keep forgetting. Will do it today without fail!

601 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:03:59am

re: #532 aussiemagpie
Reproductive and Sexual Health ? They have course on that now?!? Geez when I was in college we hadda figure it out on our own (sometimes with the help of the University infirmary)!
Betcha my way was waaaay more fun than yours! LOL!

602 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:04:15am

re: #597 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Well, if nothing else, Obama is creating the world’s greatest bank of sound bites that can be used to illustrate unfulfilled promises…

/not that he seems to be deterred by the idea of his words coming back to haunt him.

603 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:04:16am
604 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:04:30am

re: #572 MandyManners

I don’t know about the big city but, things are as quiet as usual in my village. The birds are singing, the daffodils are blooming and the trees are budding.

I think I’m gonna’ break out in song!


605 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:04:52am

Good morning folks. I missed the Sermon on the Mount last night… did the One say anything spayshul?

Hey realwest, I got your email, thanks for your kind words & I very much agree with you. I sent a response back. Hope you have a fine day.

606 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:04:56am

re: #588 Kosh’s Shadow

He couldn’t cut the military enough to pay for the stimulus porkage.

I would really like to believe that Kosh. I have a feeling he wants to provide everyone in America with education, health care, and alternative fuels but not protection by the military.

607 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:05:04am

re: #601 realwest

Reproductive and Sexual Health ? They have course on that now?!? Geez when I was in college we hadda figure it out on our own (sometimes with the help of the University infirmary)!
Betcha my way was waaaay more fun than yours! LOL!

a crab circus was FUN!?!?! Remind me to never go have a “fun” day with you !

//

608 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:05:32am

re: #576 Wishing

Wow! How nice! Where are you, Mandy, that spring has spung?

I’m in an undislcosed location in a fly-over state. We can still have a cold snap but, it looks like Spring is gearing up.

609 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:05:39am

re: #596 sattv4u2

One would need a 24 hour cable channel set aside for “all” of them!

Which just reinforces my theory that the Obama administration is really just a reality show - what happens when we put together the most unqualified group of incompetent quasi-socialists & let them run the most powerful nation on Earth? Tune in & find out!

610 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:05:54am

re: #597 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Well, if nothing else, Obama is creating the world’s greatest bank of sound bites that can be used to illustrate unfulfilled promises…

/not that he seems to be deterred by the idea of his words coming back to haunt him.

Of course not. That never happened during the campaign. He could change his mind a day later, and the MFMSM would either ignore it or fawn over the new statement. I hoped for so much more in a president.

611 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:06:09am
612 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:06:13am

/not that he seems to be deterred by the idea of his words coming back to haunt him.


Dusty, he won’t have to be worried about the words coming back to haunt him.

He has NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC, etc to “surgically” remove all those bad words.

613 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:06:25am

re: #603 buzzsawmonkey

The essence of Five Year Plan governance is to stress we are always halfway to achieving the half full glass.

Yes comrade… that is the spirit. This month the lines for bread are only 5 hours, studies show that last month they were averaging 6.35 hours.

614 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:06:26am

Morning all.
Anyone happen to see the story at Drudge about Girtmo becoming a much more hostile place since Obama won? It’s framed (of course) as a tale of brutal American soldiers trying to beat the hell out of detainees while they still have the chance. I suppose that’s just so that Obama can claim that it’s not his fault, should it be true.
I’d link to it, but my little “paperclip” icon seems to be missing.

615 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:06:38am

re: #547 Ford_Prefect
Why thanks for that Ford - but I’m ok with the weather - we WERE some 18 degrees cooler yesterday morning!

616 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:06:38am

re: #587 bolivar

Absolutely,argue the point,and be done with it.

617 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:06:44am

re: #577 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Really?

I thought you were in NYC. My bad.

Certainly sounds warmer than where I am. :-(

I’d love to live there just for the restaurants, museums and shopping.

618 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:06:53am

re: #612 smokefire

/not that he seems to be deterred by the idea of his words coming back to haunt him.

Dusty, he won’t have to be worried about the words coming back to haunt him.

He has NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC, etc to “surgically” remove all those bad words.

NUTS!…:(

619 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:07:06am

re: #603 buzzsawmonkey

The essence of Five Year Plan governance is to stress we are always halfway to achieving the half full glass.

And of course, the Ministry of Truth’s job is to shrink the size of the glass so it doesn’t look like it is getting emptier.

620 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:07:17am

re: #574 MandyManners

I don’t recall seeing it but then again I was in and out on his speech. Charles mentioned it on one of the threads he started last night.

621 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:07:28am

re: #606 turn

I would really like to believe that Kosh. I have a feeling he wants to provide everyone in America with education, health care, and alternative fuels but not protection by the military.


Which is the only item on that list required by the Constitution.

622 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:07:38am

re: #614 Lincolntf

[Link: www.reuters.com…]

I’d link to it, but my little “paperclip” icon seems to be missing.

There it is

623 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:07:53am

re: #583 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, Spring is here. I heard the First Robbin’ addressing Congress last night.

LOL!

He reminds me more of a buzzard, just waiting to gorge himself off the carcass that was America.

624 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:07:53am

re: #605 Kenneth

Good morning folks. I missed the Sermon on the Mount last night… did the One say anything spayshul?

No. You’ve heard his campaign speech before.

But he is going to impose carbon caps on us… we just surrendered in the global trade war. Have a nice life.

625 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:08:06am

re: #553 redstateredneck
“I miss a lot of what is said because I’m screaming back at the television.” LOL! You TOO?!

626 jorline  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:08:08am

Guantanamo abuse has worsened since Obama: lawyer

LONDON (Reuters) - Abuse of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay has worsened sharply since President Barack Obama took office as prison guards “get their kicks in” before the camp is closed, according to a lawyer who represents detainees.

Abuses began to pick up in December after Obama was elected, human rights lawyer Ahmed Ghappour told Reuters. He cited beatings, the dislocation of limbs, spraying of pepper spray into closed cells, applying pepper spray to toilet paper and over-forcefeeding detainees who are on hunger strike.

Why do I not trust the word of Ahmed Ghappour?

Good morning, Lizards.

627 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:08:10am

re: #613 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yes comrade… that is the spirit. This month the lines for bread are only 5 hours, studies show that last month they were averaging 6.35 hours.

BEAT ME TO IT.
Didn’t Stalin have those 5 year plans, and we all know how those worked out.

Next stage……………….Gulags, then purges.

628 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:08:10am
629 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:08:30am

Russia to focus on upgrading its nuclear arsenal

[Link: www.jpost.com…]

Ivanov told lawmakers Wednesday that the government will also focus on improving the military’s information networks and procuring smart weapons. He said the most important program for the air force is the development of a next-generation fighter jet.

But Obama is gonna gut ours?

630 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:08:30am

re: #587 bolivar

There is no excuse to hit a woman - nor is there an excuse to hit a man - so there! Violence breeds violence. I am no peacenik and if somebody hits me they better watch out but, I try to work stuff out verbally and with reason. People that have to hit have small intellects. Do you agree?

I agree, but other factors include alcohol and drug abuse, cultural (as in Islam where it’s OK to hit your wife where it won’t leave bruises visible to others), power -

Just today a story in the Daily Telegraph tells of a well known psychiatrist hitting his partner around the head while they were boarding a Qantas flight!

631 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:09:11am

re: #587 bolivar

There is no excuse to hit a woman - nor is there an excuse to hit a man - so there! Violence breeds violence. I am no peacenik and if somebody hits me they better watch out but, I try to work stuff out verbally and with reason. People that have to hit have small intellects. Do you agree?

The thing about a man responding in kind when a woman hits him is that they typical male packs a much more powerful punch than the typical female.

632 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:09:17am

re: #613 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yes comrade… that is the spirit. This month the lines for bread are only 5 hours, studies show that last month they were averaging 6.35 hours.

Of course, half the people that were in the lines last month starved, but MinTruth won’t let you know that.

633 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:09:21am

You know, this is kind of funny…

Guantanamo abuse has worsened since Obama: lawyer

Not the alleged abuse, which I believe is a false accusation anyway, but the fact that after endorsing similar charges against Bush for years, now the Dems have to defend their Beloved Leader from the same crap. Payback, bitch.

634 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:09:29am

re: #582 redstateredneck

How about rice and gravy to go with the chicken fried steak?

I missed out on posting a recipe for the cookbook, but it would have been turn’s chicken fired steak for sure.

635 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:09:34am

re: #631 MandyManners

The thing about a man responding in kind when a woman hits him is that they typical male packs a much more powerful punch than the typical female.

Sexist!
/

636 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:09:34am

re: #590 sattv4u2

I’ve tried that, but Dawn always got me “up” 1st! ,Darn, I miss her !

*snicker*

637 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:10:19am

re: #621 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Which is the only item on that list required by the Constitution.

Brilliant! Upding.

638 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:10:32am

re: #594 Boondock St. Bender

How do you like your grits,well done,regular or al dente’?

I despise grits. It’s like eating sand with butter. I also don’t like iced tea.

639 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:10:36am

re: #624 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

No. You’ve heard his campaign speech before.

But he is going to impose carbon caps on us… we just surrendered in the global trade war. Have a nice life.


Fixed it for you.

640 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:10:44am

re: #631 MandyManners

The thing about a man responding in kind when a woman hits him is that they typical male packs a much more powerful punch than the typical female.

present company excluded!

//

641 acwgusa  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:10:53am

Biden needs to get a roll of duct tape, and tape Obama’s mouth shut before the big 0 completely tanks the market.

642 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:11:03am
643 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:11:06am

In tennis news, the Israel/Sweden Davis Cup match will be played in Malmo, Sweden with no fans allowed to watch.

[Link: www.startribune.com…]

I can’t begin to tell you al how much this pisses me off. First Dubai bans the Israeli player because she is presumably Jewish and now Sweden capitulates to its raging islamist mob and stages a big tennis event with no fans allowed? It’s beyond unbelievable and is a sure sign that Sweden and Europe have become dhimmified and petrified. Sick freaking stuff.

644 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:11:35am

re: #629 Nevergiveup

Russia to focus on upgrading its nuclear arsenal

[Link: www.jpost.com…]

Ivanov told lawmakers Wednesday that the government will also focus on improving the military’s information networks and procuring smart weapons. He said the most important program for the air force is the development of a next-generation fighter jet.

But Obama is gonna gut ours?

Yes, why bother improving their weapons when the 0 is unilaterally disarming and apologizing to our enemies?

645 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:11:45am

re: #595 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He was probably getting off-color jokes texted to him from various staffers.

Or, reminding himself of more care-free times.


646 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:11:59am

re: #632 Kosh’s Shadow

Of course, half the people that were in the lines last month starved, but MinTruth won’t let you know that.

The important part is we are only 7 months away from no lines at all, comrade.

647 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:12:03am

re: #520 smokefire

It’s in the LGF cook book, under Thai Burgers.
One of my contributions to the cookbook

Where do if find this LGF cookbook of which you speak?

648 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:12:26am

re: #601 realwest

Reproductive and Sexual Health ? They have course on that now?!? Geez when I was in college we hadda figure it out on our own (sometimes with the help of the University infirmary)!
Betcha my way was waaaay more fun than yours! LOL!

LOL! It’s just an extension and advanced version of what I do anyway - gives me the accreditation to actually run clinics independently of doctors :-)

I was a midwife for many years, so I’ve seen and heard it all :-)

649 godfrey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:12:34am

Buzz, if you want good southern food, head on down to the Zeeland Street Market in Baton Rouge.

650 gonecamping  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:12:39am

He was probably still fondling himself over Obama’s spiel.


re: #481 topazpilot

Did you hear about the comment Olberdork made about Governor Jindal when he walked out? “Oh my God” or something like that.

651 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:13:11am

re: #644 Kosh’s Shadow

Yes, why bother improving their weapons when the 0 is unilaterally disarming and apologizing to our enemies?

Because even the commie ruskie bastards are thinking: “This must be capitalist trick. No One is that stupid comrade?”?

652 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:13:13am

re: #620 turn

I don’t recall seeing it but then again I was in and out on his speech. Charles mentioned it on one of the threads he started last night.

I read something about someone’s phone or whatever ringing.

653 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:13:17am
654 redstateredneck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:13:22am

re: #625 realwest

“I miss a lot of what is said because I’m screaming back at the television.” LOL! You TOO?!


It drives my husband crazy.

655 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:13:25am

re: #630 aussiemagpie

I agree, but other factors include alcohol and drug abuse, cultural (as in Islam where it’s OK to hit your wife where it won’t leave bruises visible to others), power -

Just today a story in the Daily Telegraph tells of a well known psychiatrist hitting his partner around the head while they were boarding a Qantas flight!

656 Last Mohican  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:13:29am

Good thing we elected the modern, technologically savvy, web-friendly Obama-Biden team, rather than those backwards luddites McCain and Palin:

Biden: “do you remember the website number?

657 acwgusa  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:13:37am

re: #650 gonecamping

He was probably still fondling himself over Obama’s spiel.

Olberman is a waste of skin and brain.

658 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:14:01am

re: #599 smokefire

I am waiting for either the video or book on Joe Biden’s Greatest Gaffes.
Rate them right up there with Gerald Ford’s pratfalls, golf, tennis problems,

Lyndon Johnson’s showing us his scar, and pulling the ears on the dogs.

Now there would be a book on the NYT’s Best Seller list.

I was seriously embarrassed for him over the wheelchair gaffe believe it or not. Hey it’s just Joe / I still think O picked him to deflect attention and criticism away from himself, I can’t think of a more logical reason.

659 acwgusa  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:14:15am

re: #656 Last Mohican

Good thing we elected the modern, technologically savvy, web-friendly Obama-Biden team, rather than those backwards luddites McCain and Palin:

Biden: “do you remember the website number?

Well, at least he didn’t ask the web to stand up.

660 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:14:19am

re: #651 Nevergiveup

Because even the commie ruskie bastards are thinking: “This must be capitalist trick. No One is that stupid comrade?”?

You’d think that they would have seen enough of our TV to know that there are plenty of people that stupid.

661 coquimbojoe  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:14:20am

Mimsy where the boogroves.

662 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:14:29am

re: #645 MandyManners

Hey Mandy. How do you get the You Tube video to show up on your post?

663 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:14:31am

re: #644 Kosh’s Shadow

They can start by pumping the water out of their missile silos’.lol

664 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:14:36am

re: #598 redstateredneck
Ah yes, weekends! I remember when they were important! LOL!
/ducks to avoid incoming……….

665 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:14:47am

Tummy is hungry. bbiab

666 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:15:06am

re: #661 coquimbojoe

Mimsy where the boogroves.

And the mome raths outgrabe.

667 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:15:25am

re: #657 acwgusa

Olberman is a waste of skin and brain.

Skin maybe, brain not so much.

668 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:15:26am

Out of here… have a great day Lizards. Things seem better to me now, thanks!

669 redstateredneck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:15:30am

re: #634 turn

I missed out on posting a recipe for the cookbook, but it would have been turn’s chicken fired steak for sure.

My problem with chicken fried steak is that I get a good crust on the first side, but when I turn it over the other side always sticks to the pan. Makes for good milk gravy with lots of goodie in it, but I’d rather have it stick to the meat. What am I doing wrong?

670 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:15:34am

re: #649 godfrey

Buzz, if you want good southern food, head on down to the Zeeland Street Market in Baton Rouge.

I’m not driving to Wellington, I don’t care how good the food is…:)

/S

671 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:15:49am

re: #605 Kenneth
Hey good morning Kenneth my friend. I’m gonna check for your e-mail shortly. And there’s no need to thank me, we’re friends and that’s all that matters!

672 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:16:15am

re: #657 acwgusa

Olberman is a waste of skin and brain.

can’t waste what one never has had!

673 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:16:16am

Good morning, boker tov and buenos dias to all Lizards of all stripes.
I told the missus (who really loves Obama!) that his speech was pretty good. He gives a good speech. Then I told her that he just doubled the debt, that same debt the democrats swore was way too high, just a few weeks ago.

It just got 20 degrees colder here in the Golem household.

674 jorline  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:16:38am

Yesterday Obama said his address would be Reaganess…the markets +250.

The day after Obama’s non-Reaganess address…the markets are -147 in less than an hour.

Wake up Mr. President…a lot of people aren’t buying.

675 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:16:46am

re: #647 Leonidas Hoplite

Leonidas………..here is the link

[Link: lgfcookbook.blogspot.com…]

676 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:16:46am

re: #614 Lincolntf

Morning all.
Anyone happen to see the story at Drudge about Girtmo becoming a much more hostile place since Obama won? It’s framed (of course) as a tale of brutal American soldiers trying to beat the hell out of detainees while they still have the chance. I suppose that’s just so that Obama can claim that it’s not his fault, should it be true.
I’d link to it, but my little “paperclip” icon seems to be missing.

I haven’t made it over the Drudge yet this AM but I’ll check it out, thanks.

677 acwgusa  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:16:55am

re: #672 sattv4u2

can’t waste what one never has had!

I’m sure someone could use some unused brain tissue in mint condition.

678 redstateredneck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:16:56am

re: #638 MandyManners

I despise grits. It’s like eating sand with butter. I also don’t like iced tea.

What? No sweet tea?

679 Last Mohican  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:17:12am

re: #642 Ford_Prefect

Obama’s first full meeting with all of his cabinet members.

It’s just a model.

Speaking of killer rabbits:

680 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:17:16am

re: #675 smokefire

Thank you!

681 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:18:36am
682 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:18:42am

re: #675 smokefire

Leonidas………..here is the link

[Link: lgfcookbook.blogspot.com…]

Has the cook book have a section on cooking water, I keep burning it!


/S

683 HoosierHoops  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:18:45am

re: #608 MandyManners

I’m in an undislcosed location in a fly-over state. We can still have a cold snap but, it looks like Spring is gearing up.


So how is Dick Cheeney doing? :)
Good Morning Lizards!

684 bolivar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:18:49am

re: #625 realwest

“I miss a lot of what is said because I’m screaming back at the television.” LOL! You TOO?!

My wife gets so mad at me - I yell and call him everything I can come up with other than the obvious (and that too) and she tells me to shut the f&$* up - you will have a heart attack. My health is not bad but, a dear friend dropped dead in November and she has been very protective of me.

I could not bring myself to watch or listen to it. My dear wife turned it on in the bedroom and turned it up (bitch) and wondered why I stormed out of the room slamming doors. Geeee could be I didn’t want to hear the idjit or sumpthin?

685 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:19:04am

re: #658 turn

…………I agree, but sooner or later the Mouth that Roars, is going to get him into some really deep Sh*t.

It’s just a matte of time.

686 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:19:10am

re: #667 Ford_Prefect

Skin maybe, brain not so much.


He was once a pretty good sports reporter. Then some ijit decided to promote him, beyond his competence.

687 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:19:29am

Morning Honcos!

Media Malpractice

How Obama Got Elected and Sarah Palin Targeted.

This is the full length this famous clip is from the movie.

Does anyone else have a hang over from The One’s speech last night?

688 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:19:31am
689 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:19:37am

re: #621 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Which is the only item on that list required by the Constitution.

Thanks for that reminder BDVM. Federal government is waaaay out of control. Socialism is the next logical extension unless we turn things around somehow.

690 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:19:53am

re: #622 sattv4u2
Ah yes

“According to my clients, there has been a ramping up in abuse since President Obama was inaugurated,” said Ghappour, a British-American lawyer with Reprieve, a legal charity that represents 31 detainees at Guantanamo.

“If one was to use one’s imagination, (one) could say that these traumatized, and for lack of a better word barbaric, guards were just basically trying to get their kicks in right now for fear that they won’t be able to later,” he said.

[from your link] - No reasona at all to doubt him or his clients, now is there?
BTW, wonder if he’s gonna take ‘em home with him once we close Gitmo, him being such a humanitarian and all?

691 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:19:59am

re: #655 Dustyvet



Thanks for posting that video, now I’m just so homesick! /

Love that ad - makes me go all tingly :-)

692 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:20:08am

re: #687 jcm

Morning Honcos!

Media Malpractice

How Obama Got Elected and Sarah Palin Targeted.

This is the full length this famous clip is from the movie.

[Video]

Does anyone else have a hang over from The One’s speech last night?

Apparently the stock market?

693 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:20:50am

re: #687 jcm

Morning Honcos!

Media Malpractice

How Obama Got Elected and Sarah Palin Targeted.

This is the full length this famous clip is from the movie.

Does anyone else have a hang over from The One’s speech last night?

Someone made a speech last night? I was too busy rearranging my sock drawer and contemplating my naval to have watched!

694 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:20:54am

re: #667 Ford_Prefect

………..I did like his comment as he was leaving ESPN.

…………………Nothing finer than seeing Bristol CT. in your rear view mirror

695 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:20:54am

Joke I heard this morning: Obama’s solution to the energy crisis— vaseline. Gas won’t cost any less, it just won’t hurt so much.

696 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:21:02am
697 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:21:03am
698 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:21:07am

re: #656 Last Mohican

Good thing we elected the modern, technologically savvy, web-friendly Obama-Biden team, rather than those backwards luddites McCain and Palin:

Biden: “do you remember the website number?

Websites have numbers?

I know that IP addresses are numbers, but I don’t think that’s what ol’ Joe was thinking.

699 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:21:14am

re: #626 jorline
Good morning jorline! GMTA - see my #690! BTW, I never did get that e-mail you sent (the second one I mean) last night!
HOwa re you ding today?

700 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:21:34am

re: #684 bolivar

My wife gets so mad at me - I yell and call him everything I can come up with other than the obvious (and that too) and she tells me to shut the f&$* up - you will have a heart attack. My health is not bad but, a dear friend dropped dead in November and she has been very protective of me.

I could not bring myself to watch or listen to it. My dear wife turned it on in the bedroom and turned it up (bitch) and wondered why I stormed out of the room slamming doors. Geeee could be I didn’t want to hear the idjit or sumpthin?

I didn’t watch, because even hearing him on the radio makes me upset. I don’t need to raise my blood pressure any more.
And I just got a new TV, so I don’t want to break it.
My wife was busy preparing for trial today, so she wasn’t going to turn it on.

701 VegasRick  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:21:36am

re: #657 acwgusa

Olberman is a waste of skin and brain.

702 jorline  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:21:45am

re: #687 jcm

Morning Honcos!

Media Malpractice

How Obama Got Elected and Sarah Palin Targeted.

This is the full length this famous clip is from the movie.

[Video]Does anyone else have a hang over from The One’s speech last night?

Good morning, jcm.
I’m queasy this morning…like being in a dingy with 10 foot waves.

703 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:21:59am

re: #682 Dustyvet

…………….You are a sick bastid Dusty. That’s why I like you so much.

704 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:22:16am

re: #673 Golem Akbar

Golem, if you want sugar in your coffee you better say a few Hail Obamas.

705 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:22:55am

boy investors sure didn’t like Obummer, gunna screw-up my plans. bastids, all of’em. But the day is still young :) - I hope.

Dow -153, spx -16, compx -26.

706 rightside  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:22:57am

re: #683 HoosierHoops


HH!

707 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:23:02am

re: #688 Ben Hur

Mmmmm sushi.

708 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:23:09am

re: #631 MandyManners
Hmmmm - that would seem to me to be all the more reason for the “typcial woman” to not hit the “typical man” in the first place.

709 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:23:11am

re: #691 aussiemagpie

Thanks for posting that video, now I’m just so homesick! /

Love that ad - makes me go all tingly :-)

I was looking for an ad with a drop bear…:)

710 jorline  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:23:22am

re: #699 realwest

Good morning jorline! GMTA - see my #690! BTW, I never did get that e-mail you sent (the second one I mean) last night!
HOwa re you ding today?

Hey, RW.
lol…on the #690.

I will send the email again tonight…I don’t know what happened.

711 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:23:23am

re: #693 sattv4u2

Someone made a speech last night? I was too busy rearranging my sock drawer and contemplating my naval to have watched!

Far more productive than the rest of us I see….

712 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:23:30am

re: #693 sattv4u2

Someone made a speech last night? I was too busy rearranging my sock drawer and contemplating my naval to have watched!

I would have joined Mike Rowe in any of the dirty jobs rather than watch the 0. And I hate poo, but the stuff Mike deals with is nowhere near as bad as the BS from the 0’s speeches.

713 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:23:52am
714 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:24:06am

re: #693 sattv4u2

I switched between UCONN women’s basketball, and box set of the Soprano’s.

Try that for a combination.

715 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:24:07am

California Dentist Says Groping Was Part of Treatment

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

The attorney for a Woodland dentist told jurors that his client massaged women’s chests as part of a medical treatment.

Defense attorney Michael Rothschild told the six-man, six-woman Yolo County jury that Mark Anderson was treating his female clients for temporomandibular disorder, or TMD. The attorney says the condition affects the muscles of the upper body.

Oh Boy ( rubbing my hands together furiously ) I can’t wait to get to the Office tomorrow and try that!

716 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:24:34am

re: #696 taxfreekiller

That trust fund keeps getting smaller and smaller
Good job pinch!

717 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:24:53am

re: #644 Kosh’s Shadow
“Yes, why bother improving their weapons when the 0 is unilaterally disarming and apologizing to our enemies?”
China.

718 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:24:57am

re: #624 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

No. You’ve heard his campaign speech before.

But he is going to impose carbon caps on us… we just surrendered in the global trade war. Have a nice life.

That reminds me, I couldn’t believe that smile on Blinky’s face when he announced that. I was thinking there goes our economic engine and Blinky was there applauding and smiling like a complete idiot. There is no evidence that man made carbon dioxide is changing the climate, or carbon dioxide at all for that matter, but they are completely oblivious to that.

719 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:25:09am

BBIAM!

720 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:25:11am

re: #715 Nevergiveup

Oy to the Vey.

721 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:25:33am

re: #704 WriterMom

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Mom

Kisses thrown across the border, evading the border patrol.

722 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:25:50am

K Kiddies. In my crusade to continue to NOT participate in this “crises”, I’m off to the shower so wifey and I can go off in my newly delivered SUV and go shopping for a new washer/ dryer combo!

723 gonecamping  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:25:52am

A book of that nature would have to have annual updates because each day provides additional material…hmmm…perhaps daily updates for those electronic book things Charles was talking about the other day.

It would be hilarious, the oaf is a walking joke without even trying. To think he is the VP (shakes head).


re: #599 smokefire

I am waiting for either the video or book on Joe Biden’s Greatest Gaffes.
Rate them right up there with Gerald Ford’s pratfalls, golf, tennis problems,

Lyndon Johnson’s showing us his scar, and pulling the ears on the dogs.

Now there would be a book on the NYT’s Best Seller list.

724 acwgusa  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:25:54am

Coming soon from LGF Games:

Hungry Hungry Honchos!

725 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:25:59am

re: #721 smokefire

Shameless flirt!

Continue….

726 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:26:14am

re: #633 Kenneth

Is it too early to have Obama tried at the Hague? Probably, but it’ll be interesting to see how many of the people who claim that “Human Rights” are there number one priority suddenly decide that “….ummm…err…patience and caution should be exercised when accusations such as these are made”. Bunch of flaming hypocrites.

Anyway, I don’t really buy the story. It could be true, but these “watchdogs” at Gitmo have pretty much a 0 percent accuracy rate.

727 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:26:15am

re: #704 WriterMom

Golem, if you want sugar in your coffee you better say a few Hail Obamas.


! omayn

728 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:26:18am
729 redstateredneck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:26:29am

re: #715 Nevergiveup

California Dentist Says Groping Was Part of Treatment

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

The attorney for a Woodland dentist told jurors that his client massaged women’s chests as part of a medical treatment.

Defense attorney Michael Rothschild told the six-man, six-woman Yolo County jury that Mark Anderson was treating his female clients for temporomandibular disorder, or TMD. The attorney says the condition affects the muscles of the upper body.

Oh Boy ( rubbing my hands together furiously ) I can’t wait to get to the Office tomorrow and try that!


Be sure to give ‘em a little gas first.
;-)

730 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:26:31am

re: #714 smokefire

I switched between UCONN women’s basketball, and box set of the Soprano’s.

Try that for a combination.

Gino would have made a nice soldier in Tony’s crew!

731 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:26:33am

The Big Test
By David Brooks


The political history of the 20th century is the history of social-engineering projects executed by well-intentioned people that began well and ended badly. There were big errors like communism, but also lesser ones, like a Vietnam War designed by the best and the brightest, urban renewal efforts that decimated neighborhoods, welfare policies that had the unintended effect of weakening families and development programs that left a string of white elephant projects across the world.

…Readers of this column know that I am a great admirer of Barack Obama and those around him. And yet the gap between my epistemological modesty and their liberal worldviews has been evident over the past few weeks. The people in the administration are surrounded by a galaxy of unknowns, and yet they see this economic crisis as an opportunity to expand their reach, to take bigger risks and, as Obama said on Saturday, to tackle every major problem at once.

…I fear that in trying to do everything at once, they will do nothing well. I fear that we have a group of people who haven’t even learned to use their new phone system trying to redesign half the U.S. economy.

… I worry that we’re operating far beyond our economic knowledge. Every time the administration releases an initiative, I read 20 different economists with 20 different opinions. I worry that we lack the political structures to regain fiscal control. Deficits are exploding, and the president clearly wants to restrain them. But there’s no evidence that Democrats and Republicans in Congress have the courage or the mutual trust required to share the blame when taxes have to rise and benefits have to be cut.

All in all, I can see why the markets are nervous and dropping. And it’s also clear that we’re on the cusp of the biggest political experiment of our lifetimes.

You know Obama is in trouble when one of his biggest fans doesn’t think he or his team is up to the challenge.

Hubris sucks.

732 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:26:42am

re: #709 Dustyvet

I was looking for an ad with a drop bear…:)

Look up Bundy Rum and you’ll find the bundy bear dropping out of a tree in an ad - it’s great :-)

733 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:26:42am

re: #715 Nevergiveup

California Dentist Says Groping Was Part of Treatment

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

The attorney for a Woodland dentist told jurors that his client massaged women’s chests as part of a medical treatment.

Defense attorney Michael Rothschild told the six-man, six-woman Yolo County jury that Mark Anderson was treating his female clients for temporomandibular disorder, or TMD. The attorney says the condition affects the muscles of the upper body.

Oh Boy ( rubbing my hands together furiously ) I can’t wait to get to the Office tomorrow and try that!

GROPE!

734 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:26:48am

re: #694 smokefire

………..I did like his comment as he was leaving ESPN.

…………………Nothing finer than seeing Bristol CT. in your rear view mirror

that wasn’t olbermann … it was sal marchiano … keith isn’t that clever.

735 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:27:19am

re: #715 Nevergiveup

you gotta give the lawyer credit.

Can’t dazzle em with brilliance
Baffle em with Bullshit

736 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:27:27am

I would rather have poked holes in my eyeballs with a finely sharpened unicorn horn than have watched The One.

737 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:27:55am

re: #688 Ben Hur

Strange Fish Has See-Through Head

Totally tubular.

Here’s another picture of that strange fish with a see-through head. Creepy!

738 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:28:00am

re: #729 redstateredneck

LOL. Happy happy gas…GROPE SQUISH GROPE.

hahahahahhaa

739 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:28:42am

*cough*

What is it about computer power supplies that they just are magnets for dust? I had to swap one out today for a machine that had a bad supply and man, I look like I’ve been rolling in the dirt.

*blows nose*

740 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:29:11am

The Dear Leader intends to slash the deficit in half with his Great Leap Forward, by increasing the debt. Have I got that?

741 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:29:16am

re: #737 Kenneth

Here’s another picture of that strange fish with a see-through empty head. Creepy!

more accurate/

742 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:29:33am

re: #730 sattv4u2

Shall we continue

743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:29:39am

re: #736 WriterMom

I would rather have poked holes in my eyeballs with a finely sharpened unicorn horn than have watched The One.

I would rather wear Rosie O’Donnell’s panties as a ski mask than have watched The One.

744 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:29:45am

Morning lizards. I’m on the left coast waiting for the plane to take me back to the right coast. How is everyone this morning? I didn’t get to hear the One last night, so no hangover.

745 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:30:09am
746 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:30:17am

re: #740 opnion

The Dear Leader intends to slash the deficit in half with his Great Leap Forward, by increasing the debt. Have I got that?

Yes, comrade! You have embraced Doublethink!

747 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:30:22am

re: #669 redstateredneck

My problem with chicken fried steak is that I get a good crust on the first side, but when I turn it over the other side always sticks to the pan. Makes for good milk gravy with lots of goodie in it, but I’d rather have it stick to the meat. What am I doing wrong?

My brother taught me the trick for that, put the meat in the refrigerator for about a half hour before you cook it. It won’t stick when you flip it.

748 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:30:25am
749 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:30:53am

Bedtime here, so goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!

Tonight’s view of OZ for you….

Beautiful Mooloolaba…

750 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:30:54am

re: #736 WriterMom

I would rather have poked holes in my eyeballs with a finely sharpened unicorn horn than have watched The One.


His speeches are excellent. His delivery, timing, everything, just perfect. His message, not so much.

751 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:31:13am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I would rather wear Rosie O’Donnell’s panties as a ski mask than have watched The One.

Shoot! You must have a huge head.

752 MJ  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:31:33am

Reporter Loses Job Over Altered Video Of Fox’s Gibson

A Baltimore television reporter has lost his job after acknowledging that he doctored a video to make it appear that Fox News Radio host John Gibson had made a racial slur.

In the bogus video, which was picked up across the Internet, Gibson seemed to be comparing Attorney General Eric Holder to a monkey with a “bright blue scrotum.” There had been chatter on Fox News earlier about such a monkey, which had escaped from a Seattle zoo.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]


No word yet on if Obama will apologize for calling on the Huffington Post during his news conference…

753 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:31:50am

re: #734 _RememberTonyC

really?
Always thought it was Olby. Matter of fact, oh never mind TonyC.

I always loved Tony C too.
Summer of 67, junior year high school, the Impossible Dream Season.

754 redstateredneck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:31:59am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I would rather wear Rosie O’Donnell’s panties as a ski mask than have watched The One.

I don’t know if I’d go that far.

755 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:32:04am

re: #722 sattv4u2

K Kiddies. In my crusade to continue to NOT participate in this “crises”, I’m off to the shower so wifey and I can go off in my newly delivered SUV and go shopping for a new washer/ dryer combo!


Good idea. I’ll tell hubby we’re not participating either. What can I buy, hmmmmmmm

756 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:32:12am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I would rather wear Rosie O’Donnell’s panties as a ski mask than have watched The One.

DAMN YOU ,,, BRAIN BLEACH ,, BRAIN BLEACH ,, BRAIN BLEACH

LOBOTOMY ,, LOBOTOMY ,,, LOBOTOMY !

757 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:32:13am

re: #739 vxbush

*cough*

What is it about computer power supplies that they just are magnets for dust? I had to swap one out today for a machine that had a bad supply and man, I look like I’ve been rolling in the dirt.

*blows nose*

It has a fan that pulls air through the supply. Inside are cooling fins. Dust catches on the fins and builds up. The dust insulates the components and lets heat build up burning out stuff.

One a month or so, use compressed air and blow the dust out.

758 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:32:18am
759 redstateredneck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:32:44am

re: #747 turn

My brother taught me the trick for that, put the meat in the refrigerator for about a half hour before you cook it. It won’t stick when you flip it.

Thank you!

760 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:32:53am

re: #739 vxbush

horefully it was a p.c. and not for a rack server.(data center/dust=bad juju.)

761 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:32:56am

re: #732 aussiemagpie

Look up Bundy Rum and you’ll find the bundy bear dropping out of a tree in an ad - it’s great :-)

TA…:)

762 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:33:08am

re: #748 VegasRick

Nappy headed hit men.

………………………….Whoooooo, nice comeback.

Watch out for Al Sharpton though.

763 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:33:18am
764 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:33:38am

re: #746 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yes, comrade! You have embraced Doublethink!

Hmm, strange math, but hey I do not want to go to a reeducation camp.

765 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:33:39am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I would rather wear Rosie O’Donnell’s panties as a ski mask than have watched The One.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

766 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:34:08am

re: #688 Ben Hur

Strange Fish Has See-Through Head

Totally tubular.

Deep-sea fishes are some of the strangest looking animals on Earth.

767 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:34:08am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Oh geez, I’m having breakfast….

768 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:34:16am
769 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:34:17am

Good morning all!

770 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:34:22am

re: #715 Nevergiveup

Oh gawd, only in my home state would somebody try and get off on that excuse. Scary thing is, knowing the jury pool here it might just work. I’m thinking twinky defense and all.

771 redstateredneck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:34:43am

Gotta get to work.
BBL

772 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:34:46am
773 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:34:56am

re: #684 bolivar Well Obama certainly isn’t worth dying over, but on the other hand, if you just hold it in…………….that’s not healthy, either. So I just let it all out! LOL!

774 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:35:23am

re: #755 VioletTiger

Good idea. I’ll tell hubby we’re not participating either. What can I buy, hmmmmmmm

Well ,, we’re all measured for the granite counter tops (wifey can’t choose between 3 different colors/ patterns is thew only thing holding up the installation) and sons next years private high school tuition is due in 2 weeks. Then theres always getting the lawn/ yard prepped (wifey has the lawn people on speed dial)

775 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:35:23am

Israel Air Force aircraft bombed smuggling tunnels under the Gaza-Egypt border on Wednesday after two rockets hit southern Israel, the army said.

[Link: www.haaretz.com…]

Lets see we had a war over this shit and then a truce. And nothing changed? Hum? I don’t even know why I read the news. I mean my memory still is OK. Nothing changes.

776 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:35:46am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Don’t start with me!I can make it much much worse.

777 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:36:23am

re: #722 sattv4u2

K Kiddies. In my crusade to continue to NOT participate in this “crises”, I’m off to the shower so wifey and I can go off in my newly delivered SUV and go shopping for a new washer/ dryer combo!

Hey sat, if you are still there check out those front loading washing machines. Those things clean like crazy and don’t use practically any hot water

778 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:36:32am

re: #760 Boondock St. Bender

horefully it was a p.c. and not for a rack server.(data center/dust=bad juju.)

A rack server? Is that the new job description for a waitress at Hooters?

779 UFO TOFU  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:36:41am

re: #754 redstateredneck

I don’t know if I’d go that far.

I definitely wouldn’t.

780 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:37:14am
781 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:37:18am

Iran’s nuke chief to announce ‘good news’ in April

Iran’s nuclear chief Gholam Reza Aghazadeh said “good news” regarding Iran’s nuclear plan will be announced on April 9, Iranian news agency Mehr reported on Wednesday.


No further details were provided regarding the expected announcement.

The nuclear chief added the country has increased the number of uranium-enriching centrifuges to 6,000, noting that “their number is expected to grow.” This is Tehran’s latest defiance of United Nations demands to halt its nuclear program.

782 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:37:22am
783 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:37:25am

re: #766 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Deep-sea fishes are some of the strangest looking animals on Earth.

Obviously, you’ve never seen a group picture of the leading Democrats !

784 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:37:29am

re: #757 jcm

It has a fan that pulls air through the supply. Inside are cooling fins. Dust catches on the fins and builds up. The dust insulates the components and lets heat build up burning out stuff.

One a month or so, use compressed air and blow the dust out.

Oh, I know all that. I just need a reason to gripe. And as I didn’t watch Obama last night, I had to go searching for something.

Oh, wait. Obama’s president. So dissent is patriotic, right? So I should be SCREAMING MY HEAD OFF!

785 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:37:44am

re: #696 taxfreekiller
Hey TFK! It ain’t gonna eat Obama up from the inside for two reasons: he ain’t got no “inside” and also he doesn’t have a conscience and can’t accept that he might be wrong about something.

786 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:37:46am

16:51 Iran: U.S. choice of Ross for Persian Gulf adviser means no change in policy (AP

What Policy?

787 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:38:02am

re: #760 Boondock St. Bender

horefully it was a p.c. and not for a rack server.(data center/dust=bad juju.)

and my luck: I’m allergic to dust.

*sneezing for the 40th time*

788 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:38:08am

re: #760 Boondock St. Bender

horefully it was a p.c. and not for a rack server.(data center/dust=bad juju.)

Did some one say server?

789 gonecamping  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:38:11am

I would think they would be better suited as a sea anchor…if you didn’t get cited by EPA or the Coast Guard for polluting the environment.


re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I would rather wear Rosie O’Donnell’s panties as a ski mask than have watched The One.

790 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:38:12am

re: #777 turn

Hey sat, if you are still there check out those front loading washing machines. Those things clean like crazy and don’t use practically any hot water

Our plumber advised against those. Said if we wash with bleach (we do) the bleach eats away at the doors seal

791 Amer-I-Can  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:38:22am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I would rather wear Rosie O’Donnell’s panties as a ski mask than have watched The One.

**HORK**

792 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:39:19am

re: #757 jcm

It has a fan that pulls air through the supply. Inside are cooling fins. Dust catches on the fins and builds up. The dust insulates the components and lets heat build up burning out stuff.

One a month or so, use compressed air and blow the dust out.

Dusty just fainted…:)

/S

793 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:39:25am

re: #704 WriterMom
Ah great song! Thanks! How are ya doing today?

794 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:39:38am

re: #788 jcm

Did some one say server?

The only thing better than that would be chocolate on tap.

795 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:39:56am

re: #728 buzzsawmonkey

If man-made carbon dioxide were a genuine threat, they’d be trying to shut down Coca-Cola and the other soft drink makers.

And making it illegal to burp too. Morning buzz!

796 UFO TOFU  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:40:08am

re: #788 jcm

Did some one say server?

I think they said rack server.

797 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:40:38am

re: #793 realwest

Hi realwest-fantastic. Just searching for coffee.

798 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:40:38am

re: #774 sattv4u2

Well ,, we’re all measured for the granite counter tops (wifey can’t choose between 3 different colors/ patterns is thew only thing holding up the installation) and sons next years private high school tuition is due in 2 weeks. Then theres always getting the lawn/ yard prepped (wifey has the lawn people on speed dial)

Sounds very like the Tiger household. Watch out for those Obambi’ pick pockets, coming your way

799 yma o hyd  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:40:55am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Had a quick shufti at the PB0/Jindal threads - oh dearie me …

The Beeb showed the last words of tha PB0 on the early morning news - that part where Biden stands up to clap, and so do the rest of them.
Reminded me powerfully of speeches by Stalin and other assorted commies in front of their grateful ‘parliamentarians’ …
Disgusting.

800 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:40:57am

New Israel killer drone can take out Iran’s S-300 anti-air missile

[Link: www.debka.com…]

That would be nice.

801 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:41:18am

Finally ordered LGF cook book.

About Damn Time.

802 VegasRick  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:42:06am

re: #796 UFO TOFU

I think they said rack server.

I think I know those two.

803 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:42:32am

re: #772 Ben Hur

Where’s Obama’s foreign policy spine?

The Krauthammer.


Sends chills (not thrills) up the spine.

804 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:42:45am

re: #799 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Had a quick shufti at the PB0/Jindal threads - oh dearie me …

The Beeb showed the last words of tha PB0 on the early morning news - that part where Biden stands up to clap, and so do the rest of them.
Reminded me powerfully of speeches by Stalin and other assorted commies in front of their grateful ‘parliamentarians’ …
Disgusting.

People were so afraid to be the first to stop applauding, that their hands would bleed from clapping.

805 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:42:59am

Did not listen to one word from Obama last night a I really can’t stand him…

I’m glad I did not… He’s gonna make us all pay… Reparations come in the form of socialism, bitch!

As for Jindal, I don’t mind him talking down to people. Look at those who voted for Obama… If this is the electorate, what the hell are we going to do?

Overall, there is no way a GOP member could have fiven any response last night that would not have been panned… Obama is untouchable.

806 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:43:04am

re: #740 opnion

The Dear Leader intends to slash the deficit in half with his Great Leap Forward, by increasing the debt. Have I got that?

You’ll figure out how it’s done when you fill out your next 1040.

807 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:43:25am

re: #804 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

People were so afraid to be the first to stop applauding, that their hands would bleed from clapping.

And Jindal provided nothing to applaud whatsoever.

808 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:44:01am

re: #744 VioletTiger

Morning lizards. I’m on the left coast waiting for the plane to take me back to the right coast. How is everyone this morning? I didn’t get to hear the One last night, so no hangover.

Morning, you in SF?

809 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:44:08am

re: #803 Golem Akbar

Sends chills (not thrills) up the spine.

Yeah but who in the Obama administration has a spine?

810 yma o hyd  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:44:13am

re: #745 taxfreekiller

David Brooks:

Where he born an octopus and had the best 8 arms ever, he still could not find his ass with all 8 hands a rubbing.

like that only worse

I’m sooo gonna steal that!

811 bolivar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:44:18am

re: #773 realwest

Nothing there worth even working up a sweat over. I just tell em as I see em. And no # 785 he has no guts - just spite and he is a mee too kinda person….he has it - I want it - give it to me! Problem is now he has the power to enforce his ambition and the moronic dolts that voted for him have only themselves to blame. We tried - God knows we did but, ultimately overcoming a suck-ass media and with Mclame as the candidate I had to hold my nose and that is just not gonna fly.

812 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:44:28am

the market giveth, the Obamamessiah taketh away:

Down -177, spx -18, compx -32

813 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:44:31am

re: #807 Wishing

And Jindal provided nothing to applaud whatsoever.

Was Jindal really that bad? I heard differing opinions. Some said he started off wooden but did better by the end. Others said it was bad through and through.

814 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:44:32am

re: #809 Nevergiveup

Yeah but who in the Obama administration has a spine?

Michelle?

815 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:45:14am

re: #809 Nevergiveup

Yeah but who in the Obama administration has a spine?


I overheard this comment, last night: Obama has us bending over backward and frontward…

816 Gus  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:45:22am

DJI

7,172.53
-178.41 (-2.43%)
Real-time: 10:43AM EST

“There’s got to be a morning after…”

Guess they didn’t like all that “cradle to grave” talk from Mayor Obama.

817 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:45:33am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I would rather wear Rosie O’Donnell’s panties as a ski mask than have watched The One.

*WHACK*

818 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:45:39am

re: #740 opnion
Good morning opnion! “The Dear Leader intends to slash the deficit in half with his Great Leap Forward, by increasing the debt. Have I got that?”
Yes, but do NOT try this at home - Obama’s got legal printing presses!

819 bolivar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:45:52am

re: #795 turn

And making it illegal to burp too. Morning buzz!

Guess farting is out then too?

820 dentate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:46:16am

re: #813 vxbush

Was Jindal really that bad? I heard differing opinions. Some said he started off wooden but did better by the end. Others said it was bad through and through.

He started off bad, then sounded like he was teaching a class to preschoolers.

821 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:46:17am

re: #813 vxbush

Was Jindal really that bad? I heard differing opinions. Some said he started off wooden but did better by the end. Others said it was bad through and through.

It was just horrid…he channeled Mr Rogers, for petes sake.
And must have said 15 times, Americans can do anything.

822 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:46:25am

re: #816 Gus 802

DJI

7,172.53
-178.41 (-2.43%)
Real-time: 10:43AM EST

“There’s got to be a morning after…”

Guess they didn’t like all that “cradle to grave” talk from Mayor Obama.

See, Obama should learn to watch what happens when he speaks. Oh, wait, this is probably the result he wants.

823 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:46:26am

re: #816 Gus 802

DJI

7,172.53
-178.41 (-2.43%)
Real-time: 10:43AM EST

“There’s got to be a morning after…”

Guess they didn’t like all that “cradle to grave” talk from Mayor Obama.


Remember, he indicated that he did not like Wall Street very much. They evidently got the message.

824 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:46:37am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Thanks a lot for that visual imagery. I just threw up in my mouth a little.

825 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:47:00am

I sincerely wonder how the military brass feels about this community organizer posing as Commander in Chief.

826 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:47:12am

re: #796 UFO TOFU

I think they said rack server.

I can work cross platform……..

827 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:47:26am

re: #821 Wishing

It was just horrid…he channeled Mr Rogers, for petes sake.
And must have said 15 times, Americans can do anything.

Well, the sentiment is right. Personally, I would have had Sarah Palin deliver the statement, just to spite Obama.

828 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:47:36am

re: #820 dentate

He started off bad, then sounded like he was teaching a class to preschoolers.


I thought he was pretty good. Logical and patriotic. Not a style-master like Obama, however. But I give him high marks for substance.

829 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:47:45am

re: #823 Golem Akbar

Remember, he indicated that he did not like Wall Street very much. They evidently got the message.

Commies don’t like the free market system…

830 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:47:53am

re: #803 Golem Akbar

Sends chills (not thrills) up the spine.

President Jellyfish.

831 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:48:05am

re: #781 NJDhockeyfan

Iran’s nuke chief to announce ‘good news’ in April

The question is, where will the “good news” be announced? Tel Aviv? NYC?
I hope Israel announces some good news soon, causing an indefinite delay to Iran’s “good news”.

832 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:48:07am

re: #824 realwest

Thanks a lot for that visual imagery. I just threw up in my mouth a little.

A LITTLE? I threw up back to last weeks lunch!

833 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:48:16am

re: #808 turn

Morning, you in SF?

Why, yes I am!
..turns to left and right..
You see me?

834 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:48:30am

re: #827 vxbush

Well, the sentiment is right. Personally, I would have had Sarah Palin deliver the statement, just to spite Obama.

To be honest, I am not so sure Sarah Palin wants anything to do with DC or the piranhas in the MSM.

835 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:48:32am

re: #819 bolivar

Bingo

836 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:48:49am

re: #744 VioletTiger

Morning lizards. I’m on the left coast waiting for the plane to take me back to the right coast. How is everyone this morning? I didn’t get to hear the One last night, so no hangover.

Hey did I ever mention one time I was in the SF international airport having a beer? Yeah, I was sitting at this table off in the corner. Suddenly I noticed the entire room cleared out except for this one black guy at the bar with what appeared to be his son. He was all decked out in leather and I finally caught a glimpse of his face. It was OJ and just about that time he drank up and split. I thought that was so right on that everybody walked out on him.

837 dentate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:49:04am

re: #828 Golem Akbar

I thought he was pretty good. Logical and patriotic. Not a style-master like Obama, however. But I give him high marks for substance.

Sadly, substance alone is not going to be enough to sway voters. It needs to be delivered properly. People respond to inspiration, always have. No one is going to get excited enough to listen to the message if it either puts them to sleep or appears to be talking down to them.

838 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:49:12am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Another bright and shiny day in the valley and it’s warming up. :D

{realwest} Morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* :D

839 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:49:18am

re: #829 tfc3rid

Commies don’t like the free market system…


Or, as they say: socialism works, until they run out of the other people’s money.

840 yma o hyd  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:49:18am

re: #804 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

People were so afraid to be the first to stop applauding, that their hands would bleed from clapping.

See - that what I remember: reports in the papers of Soviet representatives giving Stalin (or Breshnev or whoever) a standing ovation for an hour because nobody dared to stop.

Never thought I’d see something like that in the USA.

841 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:49:26am

re: #813 vxbush

Was Jindal really that bad? I heard differing opinions. Some said he started off wooden but did better by the end. Others said it was bad through and through.

He seemed like the first day of public speaking 101.
It was like he was not paricularly thinking about what he was saying & just wanted to get through.
He can do much better & will

842 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:49:27am

re: #834 Wishing

To be honest, I am not so sure Sarah Palin wants anything to do with DC or the piranhas in the MSM.

No, you’re probably right. She probably had enough of that during the election. But oh, how sweet would it have been if she had just sparkled delivering the Republican speech….

843 Gus  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:49:43am

re: #822 vxbush

re: #823 Golem Akbar

Yeah, guess he forgot that you have to make money in order to pay for things.

No wait, did he ever learn that concept in the Saul Alinsky School of Trust Funder Socialism?

844 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:49:45am

re: #827 vxbush

That would’ve been great, and smart on the part of the RNC.

845 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:49:48am
846 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:49:54am

re: #833 VioletTiger

Why, yes I am!
..turns to left and right..
You see me?

No I’m here in Sac, see my #836

847 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:50:09am

re: #836 turn

Hey did I ever mention one time I was in the SF international airport having a beer? Yeah, I was sitting at this table off in the corner. Suddenly I noticed the entire room cleared out except for this one black guy at the bar with what appeared to be his son. He was all decked out in leather and I finally caught a glimpse of his face. It was OJ and just about that time he drank up and split. I thought that was so right on that everybody walked out on him.

Well, clearly the search for the real killers goes on in the airport bar, eh Juice?
/spit

848 gonecamping  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:50:43am

Not so loud! Obama will decide to outlaw home brewing of beer because the fermentation of the malt produces CO2. Eventually only State owned breweries will be able to operate (like State owned car factories and banks).


re: #728 buzzsawmonkey

If man-made carbon dioxide were a genuine threat, they’d be trying to shut down Coca-Cola and the other soft drink makers.

849 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:51:10am

re: #821 Wishing

It was just horrid…he channeled Mr Rogers, for petes sake.
And must have said 15 times, Americans can do anything.

Look on the bright side - he probably grenaded any chances he has of being the 2012 nominee.

850 smokefire  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:51:17am

bbiaw

Everyone else have a joyous wonderful day.

851 yma o hyd  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:51:30am

re: #807 Wishing

And Jindal provided nothing to applaud whatsoever.

The admittedly very brief clip they showed ofJindal’s speech made me think ‘political lightweight’. No substance, no personal charisma - could’ve been the Beeb choice of clip, but I do hope he’s now finished as potential candidate for Pres.

852 godfrey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:51:37am

re: #848 gonecamping

Exhaled air is rich in carbon dioxide, a waste product of cellular respiration during the production of ATP.

You know what to do.

853 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:51:47am

re: #837 dentate

Sadly, substance alone is not going to be enough to sway voters. It needs to be delivered properly. People respond to inspiration, always have. No one is going to get excited enough to listen to the message if it either puts them to sleep or appears to be talking down to them.

Yes, sadly that’s true.

That’s why I say Obama gives excellent speeches. People just don’t get it that his speeches are empty promises. Great sounding, but empty.

854 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:52:07am

re: #849 Ward Cleaver

Look on the bright side - he probably grenaded any chances he has of being the 2012 nominee.

That is my assessment as well, and isn’t that good news!

855 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:52:17am
856 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:52:58am

re: #834 Wishing

To be honest, I am not so sure Sarah Palin wants anything to do with DC or the piranhas in the MSM.

After being so savaged by the MSM and SNL, she’s probably lost interest in being a national candidate. They made her into a punchline.

857 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:53:10am

re: #852 godfrey

Exhaled air is rich in carbon dioxide, a waste product of cellular respiration during the production of ATP.

Which I remember from grade school science. Now kids are taught that every animal on Earth is a polluter. The GOP isn’t the only party where people have problems with basic science.

858 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:53:12am

re: #800 Nevergiveup
Ah yeah, but it IS Debka so don’t go getting your hopes up just yet!

859 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:53:50am

re: #856 Ward Cleaver

After being so savaged by the MSM and SNL, she’s probably lost interest in being a national candidate. They made her into a punchline.

I wouldn’t blame her at all if she never ever took the national stage again. We will be poorer for it, though.

860 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:54:38am

re: #759 redstateredneck

Thank you!

I forgot to add it doesn’t work all the time. You also need to have a very hot frying pan. I love chicken fried steak, it’s just about the only thing the turnwife lets turn cook. Even she likes my CFS, and that’s saying a lot (she studied french cooking in France).

861 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:54:41am

Lord Ahmed jailed

SOUTH Yorkshire peer Lord Ahmed was today jailed for 12 weeks for texting while driving on a motorway just before he was involved in a crash in which a man died.

12 weeks?!?!?!

And the man was KILLED.

You can smell the fear even when it’s merely written words.

This man is an ISLAMONAZI.

862 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:54:42am

re: #858 realwest

Ah yeah, but it IS Debka so don’t go getting your hopes up just yet!

Yeah I know, but after last night, I’ll grab at any positive news. And this is the kind of stuff Debka gets right.

863 livefreeor die  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:54:42am

re: #859 Wishing

I wouldn’t blame her at all if she never ever took the national stage again. We will be poorer for it, though.


It’s disgusting how they treated her like dirt and fawn all over dimwits like Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer.

864 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:55:07am

re: #858 realwest

Ah yeah, but it IS Debka so don’t go getting your hopes up just yet!

It might be one of those rare ones they get right. It’s their analysis and intel pieces that are usually out in left field.

865 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:55:30am

re: #848 gonecamping

Not so loud! Obama will decide to outlaw home brewing of beer because the fermentation of the malt produces CO2. Eventually only State owned breweries will be able to operate (like State owned car factories and banks).

How about communist beer?

866 Gus  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:55:33am

The propagandists at ABC are headlining the follow up after the speech: Obama ‘Gets It’ — But Will the Nation Actually Buy It? This is at the ABC Go dot com website.

Not worth reading. Kind of reads like something from “Vogue” magazine.

867 rawmuse  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:55:44am

re: #863 livefreeor die

It’s disgusting how they treated her like dirt and fawn all over dimwits like Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer.

Yes, it was. And completely predictable, sadly.

868 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:55:52am

re: #863 livefreeor die

It’s disgusting how they treated her like dirt and fawn all over dimwits like Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer.

Yes, the way they faun over Pelosi, you’d think blinking was going to be the next fashion trend.

869 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:55:52am

re: #861 Ben Hur

Lord Ahmed jailed

12 weeks?!?!?!

And the man was KILLED.

You can smell the fear even when it’s merely written words.

This man is an ISLAMONAZI.

Next time he’ll get 24 weeks - maybe.

870 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:56:49am

re: #864 Ward Cleaver

It might be one of those rare ones they get right. It’s their analysis and intel pieces that are usually out in left field.

If it is accurate, the IDF will most likely just deny it.

871 livefreeor die  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:56:49am

re: #868 vxbush

Yes, the way they faun over Pelosi, you’d think blinking was going to be the next fashion trend.

My eyes water just watching her.

872 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:57:13am

IMO, the MSM will consider their greatest legacy, not getting the King of Nothing elected, but rather the destruction of the only true feminist candidate, Sarah Palin.

873 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:57:21am

re: #832 jcm ROTFL! Good morning jcm - other than having an empty stomach and that acidy after taste in your mouth, how are ya?!

874 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:57:30am

re: #871 livefreeor die

My eyes water just watching her.

The idiots have taken over the asylum.

875 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:57:49am

re: #859 Wishing

I wouldn’t blame her at all if she never ever took the national stage again. We will be poorer for it, though.

Very true. Much as I like Sarah I think the MSM did too much damage for her to recover her (much deserved) credibility.

876 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:58:11am

re: #874 Ward Cleaver

The idiots have taken over the asylum.

Yes, and yet—

I wonder how our grandparents felt when the next generation took over. Did they feel the same way?

877 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:58:12am
878 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:58:36am

re: #790 sattv4u2

Our plumber advised against those. Said if we wash with bleach (we do) the bleach eats away at the doors seal

Really? I didn’t know that. I don’t know how much a door seal would cost but it would seem like you should be able to replace that yourself. The efficiency gain might pay for quite a few seals. I don’t have one but used one at a hotel in San Diego recently, I was amazed at how clean my greasy pants came out.

879 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:58:53am

re: #875 VioletTiger

Very true. Much as I like Sarah I think the MSM did too much damage for her to recover her (much deserved) credibility.


She’s smart and resilient. I wouldn’t count her out, ever.

880 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:58:56am

re: #868 vxbush

Yes, the way they faun over Pelosi, you’d think blinking was going to be the next fashion trend.

I’m amazed that she has any muscle movement left in her face with all the Botox

881 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:59:26am

re: #875 VioletTiger

Very true. Much as I like Sarah I think the MSM did too much damage for her to recover her (much deserved) credibility.

Actually, she never lost any credibility with us, but they probably pissed her off so much, she will just stay in Alaska: at least the Alaskans will get to benefit from her leadership.

882 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:59:30am

Palin can either allow the MSM/moonbats to define her, or she can define herself. The only way for her to recover from the cynical hatchet job that was done on her is to get in front of the cameras and let the rest of the nation see why she is the most popular Governor in the country. I don’t expect the media to ever treat her with any decency, but the voters have a far more open mind.

883 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:59:42am

re: #861 Ben Hur

Lord Ahmed jailed


12 weeks?!?!?!

And the man was KILLED.

You can smell the fear even when it’s merely written words.

This man is an ISLAMONAZI.

Is that the standard sentence?

884 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 7:59:44am

re: #838 {Miss Trixie} Hey there gorgeous *Smoochies* back to you! How are y’all doing way up North?!
How’s Lil Miss doing?

885 godfrey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:00:02am

re: #877 buzzsawmonkey

We’re worried that our personal vision of an anti-capitalist paradise won’t come true! Waaaaaaaaahh!

/

886 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:00:04am

re: #880 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I’m amazed that she has any muscle movement left in her face with all the Botox


During the speech, she kept staring into the camera. I honestly had to avert my eyes from her. It was too weird.

887 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:00:08am
888 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:00:22am

re: #873 realwest

ROTFL! Good morning jcm - other than having an empty stomach and that acidy after taste in your mouth, how are ya?!

Pretty, good survived a round of layoffs, 10% at my company. Some other semiconductor companies are cutting deep 30-35%.

889 gonecamping  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:00:23am

Well, we had Billy Beer during the Carter Administration…perhaps we shall see Obama Beer…guaranteed to make you tongue tied, fumble mouthed, and unable to balance a checkbook.

re: #865 Golem Akbar

How about communist beer?

890 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:00:47am

re: #878 turn

Really? I didn’t know that. I don’t know how much a door seal would cost but it would seem like you should be able to replace that yourself. The efficiency gain might pay for quite a few seals. I don’t have one but used one at a hotel in San Diego recently, I was amazed at how clean my greasy pants came out.

I have 4 children and do a LOT of laundry. The front loaders do a great job with less water. The only drawback is that the regular cycle is quite long.

891 godfrey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:01:06am

re: #889 gonecamping

Beer is too street for Obama.

892 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:01:10am

re: #886 Golem Akbar

During the speech, she kept staring into the camera. I honestly had to avert my eyes from her. It was too weird.

The best line of defense against a Gorgon.

893 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:01:53am

re: #790 sattv4u2

Our plumber advised against those. Said if we wash with bleach (we do) the bleach eats away at the doors seal

Well, you just replace the seal every once in awhile. I’ve heard that early Maytag Neptune machines had problems with mold growing on the door seal.

894 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:02:04am

re: #879 Golem Akbar

She’s smart and resilient. I wouldn’t count her out, ever.

I do hope you are right.

Boading plane, have a great day!

895 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:02:41am
896 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:02:45am

re: #890 ilzito guacamolito

I have 4 children and do a LOT of laundry. The front loaders do a great job with less water. The only drawback is that the regular cycle is quite long.

I loved having a front loader. I had to sell it with the house when we moved, but I really wanted it to come with me.

897 VegasRick  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:02:52am

re: #827 vxbush

Well, the sentiment is right. Personally, I would have had Sarah Palin deliver the statement, just to spite Obama.

Where the hell is Mitt Romney?

898 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:02:58am

re: #847 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Well, clearly the search for the real killers goes on in the airport bar, eh Juice?
/spit

There is some psychiatric term for this but I really think he’s convinced himself he didn’t do it.

899 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:03:32am

re: #898 turn

There is some psychiatric term for this but I really think he’s convinced himself he didn’t do it.

Denial?

900 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:03:34am

re: #897 VegasRick

Where the hell is Mitt Romney?

Probably working, like the rest of us.

901 Summersong  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:03:49am

Ugh

Another day of DJI hemorrhaging -178 and counting

and my car was ransacked last night -$4,000 in various equipment was stolen.

Happy new year!

902 dentate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:03:57am

re: #877 buzzsawmonkey

Since we’re talking intermittently about carbon dioxide, global warming, etc., if there is more carbon dioxide there is more for plants to breathe. If it gets warmer, Greenland’s icecaps may melt—well, so what? It was Greenland when it was first settled. If it is warmer, then the atmosphere can absorb more water—and there will be more rain. North Africa, desert now, was the breadbasket of the Roman Empire; more water, more rain, might make that area fertile again.

What the hell is everyone worried about?

The whole AGW thing is based on the assumption that the way the earth was 150 years ago was its eternal, ideal, normal, unchanging state and that we nasty people have just ruined it. It completely ignores the huge ongoing changes in climate that have occurred not just in the time frame you mention, but over the last 30,000 years of human habitation on this planet, through ice ages, rising and sinking of coastlines, etc. I’ve said here several times before that it makes no difference what you do about AGW, other, far stronger forces are going to change the climate. Stop wasting time on AGW, and spend your time and efforts on planning what you will do when the climate changes, because it will.

903 xtraBilly  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:03:58am

Good Morning
So Joe Biden’s going to oversee how the money is being spent.
Isn’t this like Uncle Billy running the Bailey’s Savings and Loan?

904 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:04:01am
905 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:04:02am

re: #861 Ben Hur
Good morning Ben. That was such an excellent comment I reported it to Charles in the hope that he’ll make it a thread.
Motherfucker’s a murderer and he gets 12 weeks?!

906 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:04:18am

re: #891 godfrey

Beer is too street for Obama.


That’s too bad. I’m a sucker for good vodka. hmmm….Obama vodka…

907 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:04:53am

re: #848 gonecamping

Not so loud! Obama will decide to outlaw home brewing of beer because the fermentation of the malt produces CO2. Eventually only State owned breweries will be able to operate (like State owned car factories and banks).

I used to love to hear the sound of that co2 bubbling out of the airtrap. I’m going to have to start brewing again.

908 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:05:24am

re: #905 realwest

Good morning Ben. That was such an excellent comment I reported it to Charles in the hope that he’ll make it a thread.
Motherfucker’s a murderer and he gets 12 weeks?!

He’s a Lord. Different rules apply for our betters, don’t you know?

909 godfrey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:06:04am

re: #904 ploome hineni

Jindal looked like a college kid.

910 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:06:44am

Morning all. Anyone post this yet?

CBS Tries to Discredit Homegrown Jihad Documentary

Since it was made and shown by the Christian Action Network (CAN), take it for what it is worth.

BTW, my copy of the cookbook shipped yesterday

911 Wishing  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:06:45am

re: #909 godfrey

Kinda like he was telling us a bedtime story, imo.

912 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:07:18am

re: #904 ploome hineni

once you see how effective NObama is on camera

Gov Palin and anyone else running for office need to concentrate on their APPEARANCE

because obviously, experience and accomplishments mean nothing

loook at Nobama……he has temperment, and attitude

nothing else

look at how awful BObby Jindal presented himself yesterday

maybe they are too concieted to reaqlize that they need help presenting themselves sucessfully


You might be right. On style, Obama is a 10, substance, about -1. Jindal was maybe a two on style, and 8 on substance. But in the eyes of those not paying attention, style is everything.

913 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:07:55am

re: #853 Golem Akbar

Yes, sadly that’s true.

That’s why I say Obama gives excellent speeches. People just don’t get it that his speeches are empty promises. Great sounding, but empty.

Oh you guys are talking about Jindal. I thought he did, well, a horrible job with his speech. He talked too fast and was obviously nervous. Not nearly the poise the One has … just saying.

914 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:08:11am

re: #901 Summersong

Ugh

Another day of DJI hemorrhaging -178 and counting

and my car was ransacked last night -$4,000 in various equipment was stolen.

Happy new year!

BUMMER! My wife’s Camry was stolen and trashed 3 times!

915 redheadredstate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:10:07am

Here’s something that has been eating away at me and keeps me up at night. Let’s say that 4 years from now enough of the electorate has woken up and realized that BHO is the worst president ever. Will their added votes be enough to overcome the blatant cheating by ACORN? Especially after ACORN got all that additional money from the porkulus pkg? Who can guarantee that this will be a fair election with ACORN and the DEMS in control? I’m still not convinced that this last election was on the up and up. All my life (and I’m in my 40’s) I’ve taken for granted that there will be a peaceful transition of power. That illusion got shattered in 2000. It’s even worse today. So my question for my fellow lizards is what chance do we have in 2012 with the deck stacked against us? Even if we get a Repub in office in 12 how long will it take to undo all this damage that BHO is inflicting? I’m not trying to be a Debbie Downer but I’m honestly worried about all this.

916 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:10:45am

re: #872 Wishing

IMO, the MSM will consider their greatest legacy, not getting the King of Nothing elected, but rather the destruction of the only true feminist candidate, Sarah Palin.

I’m too far upthread to elaborate, so I just dinged ya. Sad but true.

917 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:11:09am

re: #913 turn

Oh you guys are talking about Jindal. I thought he did, well, a horrible job with his speech. He talked too fast and was obviously nervous. Not nearly the poise the One has … just saying.


I try to watch all of Obama’s speeches. I listen for him to say something meaningful, which is rare. I notice that his speechifying (word?) is excellent.

I suggest all Lizards watch Obama carefully. We could learn something from this master orator.

918 albusteve  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:11:20am

the time has come…off yer butts

[Link: www.pjtv.com…]

919 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:11:36am

re: #901 Summersong

Ugh

Another day of DJI hemorrhaging -178 and counting

and my car was ransacked last night -$4,000 in various equipment was stolen.

Happy new year!

How terrible! I hope nothing was lost that can’t be replaced, like photographs, etc.

920 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:11:52am

re: #882 Lincolntf
“the voters have a far more open mind.” How can you say that, the voters elected that empty suit Obama didn’t they?
Still and all, I’d love to have enough money to be able to give to Palin for her to hire investigators to investigate the MSM’s talking heads and see what dirt or pusedo dirt they can come up with. Shouldn’t take much work or money, but since she’d have to BUY airtime or commercial pages in magazines, newspapers and such, it could run up a pretty sizeable tab.

921 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:11:52am

re: #915 redheadredstate

Short answer, no. That was just about the whole point of Stimu-Less©.

922 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:12:20am

re: #905 realwest

Good morning Ben. That was such an excellent comment I reported it to Charles in the hope that he’ll make it a thread.
Motherfucker’s a murderer and he gets 12 weeks?!

No, he’s not a murderer. Doesn’t murder require a different level of intent than that which causes an accident? Also, is his sentence the same as those of others who’re convicted of the same charges? The judge COULD have suspended the sentence but, he didn’t.

923 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:12:35am

re: #823 Golem Akbar

Remember, he indicated that he did not like Wall Street very much. They evidently got the message.

The feeling is mutual.

924 gonecamping  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:13:01am

I boycotted the Obama Platitude Pitch last night to enjoy some delicious homebrew with the DW, going to brew up a batch of Stout next week.

re: #907 turn

I used to love to hear the sound of that co2 bubbling out of the airtrap. I’m going to have to start brewing again.

925 vxbush  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:13:01am

re: #915 redheadredstate

Here’s something that has been eating away at me and keeps me up at night. Let’s say that 4 years from now enough of the electorate has woken up and realized that BHO is the worst president ever. Will their added votes be enough to overcome the blatant cheating by ACORN? Especially after ACORN got all that additional money from the porkulus pkg? Who can guarantee that this will be a fair election with ACORN and the DEMS in control? I’m still not convinced that this last election was on the up and up. All my life (and I’m in my 40’s) I’ve taken for granted that there will be a peaceful transition of power. That illusion got shattered in 2000. It’s even worse today. So my question for my fellow lizards is what chance do we have in 2012 with the deck stacked against us? Even if we get a Repub in office in 12 how long will it take to undo all this damage that BHO is inflicting? I’m not trying to be a Debbie Downer but I’m honestly worried about all this.

Even if a Republican gets in, if s/he tries to roll back any of these changes there will be howls and screams of how horrible all the changes are. Any such president will not have the cover of the media and therefore will be eviscerated. Only someone of really stern stuff would be able to withstand that for four years.

926 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:13:42am

re: #877 buzzsawmonkey

And previously frozen land will will open up to farming too.

927 albusteve  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:14:02am

re: #915 redheadredstate

Here’s something that has been eating away at me and keeps me up at night. Let’s say that 4 years from now enough of the electorate has woken up and realized that BHO is the worst president ever. Will their added votes be enough to overcome the blatant cheating by ACORN? Especially after ACORN got all that additional money from the porkulus pkg? Who can guarantee that this will be a fair election with ACORN and the DEMS in control? I’m still not convinced that this last election was on the up and up. All my life (and I’m in my 40’s) I’ve taken for granted that there will be a peaceful transition of power. That illusion got shattered in 2000. It’s even worse today. So my question for my fellow lizards is what chance do we have in 2012 with the deck stacked against us? Even if we get a Repub in office in 12 how long will it take to undo all this damage that BHO is inflicting? I’m not trying to be a Debbie Downer but I’m honestly worried about all this.

we need 40 or so votes back in the House…it will begin there…without those votes you can kiss your ass goodbye…imo

928 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:14:06am

re: #888 jcm Wow, I’m sure glad to hear that you survived my friend, but geez, if other companies laid off 30-35% of their workforce, how did your company do?

929 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:14:23am

re: #922 MandyManners

No, he’s not a murderer. Doesn’t murder require a different level of intent than that which causes an accident? Also, is his sentence the same as those of others who’re convicted of the same charges? The judge COULD have suspended the sentence but, he didn’t.

How many ways can I mangle a sentence?

930 VegasRick  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:15:26am

re: #927 albusteve

we need 40 or so votes back in the House…it will begin there…without those votes you can kiss your ass goodbye…imo

Yep.

931 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:15:26am

re: #897 VegasRick

Where the hell is Mitt Romney?

That would be my choice. I wonder if the Republicans were trying to demonstrate diversity , to see Obama’s bet?

932 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:16:07am

re: #901 Summersong
GACK! I’m really sorry to hear about your car! Where was it parked and what all got taken to = $4k?!

933 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:16:14am

re: #882 Lincolntf

Palin can either allow the MSM/moonbats to define her, or she can define herself. The only way for her to recover from the cynical hatchet job that was done on her is to get in front of the cameras and let the rest of the nation see why she is the most popular Governor in the country. I don’t expect the media to ever treat her with any decency, but the voters have a far more open mind.

Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah!

934 bolivar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:16:17am

re: #917 Golem Akbar

I try to watch all of Obama’s speeches. I listen for him to say something meaningful, which is rare. I notice that his speechifying (word?) is excellent.

I suggest all Lizards watch Obama carefully. We could learn something from this master oratorbator.

Fixed that for ya!

935 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:17:17am

The Lewis Carroll quote reminds me of one of my favorite Saturday Night Live sketches, when Steve Buscemi played the Mad Hatter.

[Link: snltranscripts.jt.org…]

936 redheadredstate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:18:23am

re: #927 albusteve

we need 40 or so votes back in the House…it will begin there…without those votes you can kiss your ass goodbye…imo

OK I get what you’re saying but again if 2012 is looking shaky then 2010 is looking shakier. If ACORN has been and continues to be a negative factor in presidential elections which are on a grand scale how much easier will it be to manipulate local elections for senators/representatives? It will be shooting fish in a barrel. This stuff scares me skinny.

937 VegasRick  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:18:50am

re: #931 opnion

That would be my choice. I wonder if the Republicans were trying to demonstrate diversity , to see Obama’s bet?

Then they really are as dumb as they look. They did not learn a thing sending old man McCain to bat? We really are in trouble.

938 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:18:53am

Sarah should hire Mark Levin as campaign manager.

939 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:19:11am

re: #869 Ward Cleaver

Next time he’ll get 24 weeks - maybe.

Lord Ahmed was also banned from driving for a year, ordered to retake his test before he can drive again and told to pay £740 court costs.

Nothing for the victim’s family?

940 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:19:11am

re: #928 realwest

Wow, I’m sure glad to hear that you survived my friend, but geez, if other companies laid off 30-35% of their workforce, how did your company do?

Our company runs pretty lean to begin with. We’re not losing money, we’re cash flow positive, and all the other metrics are good. Our revenue has dropped dramatically in the last 2 quarters.

941 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:19:17am

re: #890 ilzito guacamolito

I have 4 children and do a LOT of laundry. The front loaders do a great job with less water. The only drawback is that the regular cycle is quite long.

I’ll say mother of four, welcome to LGF! When I used that one is SD I wasn’t sure it was even working correctly. The thing would go swish-swish-swish then stop for a moment. It was coin operated and I wasn’t sure I had the right amount of money in it or something. Ha!

942 yma o hyd  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:20:01am

This is so sad:
Tributes in the House after David Cameron’s son Ivan dies, aged six
‘Politicians from all three main parties put aside their differences today to give heartfelt condolences to David Cameron and his family over the death of his six-year-old son, Ivan.
The Conservative leader’s first child, who suffered from a rare form of cerebral palsy involving severe degenerative seizures, died at a hospital in West London this morning after being taken ill overnight. ‘

943 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:20:29am

re: #935 Mad Al-Jaffee

The Lewis Carroll quote reminds me of one of my favorite Saturday Night Live sketches, when Steve Buscemi played the Mad Hatter.

[Link: snltranscripts.jt.org…]

Mad Hatter: Why I’m so mad I constantly burn my penis with red hot cigar butts.

SNIP

Mad Hatter: Well I do that too. And I also build little race cars out of my poop! It’s Wing-Dangily wonderful madness!

944 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:20:41am

Good morning.

Don’t know if this has been reported here before, but here in DC, our supposedly squeaky-clean Mayor, Adrian Fenty, is in hot water over accepting a week-long junket to Dubai, paid fully by the United Arab Emirates, at which (among other things) he attended the womens’ tennis match from which that Israeli athlete had been banned.

Fenty’s reaction so far is a combination of evasiveness, and apparent bafflement that there could possibly be anything wrong with accepting a ritzy junket offer from a morally questionable foreign government.

945 Gus  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:20:44am

IT’S OBAMA SPREADING PANIC
By Dick Morris

Instead, Obama has been instrumental in purveying fear and spreading doubt. It is his pronouncements, reinforced by the developments they kindle and catalyze, that are destroying good businesses, bankrupting responsible people and wiping out even conservative financial institutions. Every time he speaks, he sends the markets down and stocks crashing. He doesn’t seem to realize that the rest of the world takes its cue from him. He forgets that he stands at the epicenter of power, not on the fringes campaigning for office. This ain’t Iowa.

946 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:21:01am

I’ve been reading some of the Dumbass Underground comments about Jindal. Those losers are disgusting and delusional.

947 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:21:01am

re: #899 Ward Cleaver

Denial?

Yes, thanks Ward.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

948 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:21:33am

re: #939 Dustyvet

Lord Ahmed was also banned from driving for a year, ordered to retake his test before he can drive again and told to pay £740 court costs.

Nothing for the victim’s family?

What gets me, around here if I get drunk and fire a round down the street and kill someone I’d get negligent homicide.

I get drunk drive down the street and kill someone I’d get vehicle manslaughter.

I’d do way more time for the first offense.

I’ve never figured that one out.

949 BigAl  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:21:38am

re: #931 opnion

That would be my choice. I wonder if the Republicans were trying to demonstrate diversity , to see Obama’s bet?

Begin with 2010. Help Michael Steele. This one-party rule with Pelosi-Reid-Obama is insane and dangerous.

950 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:22:06am

re: #922 MandyManners
Well I could make the argument that “driving” while texting does equal murder, but in point of fact I DO BELIEVE it shows a reckless disregard for human life.
And yeah, the judge could’ve let him go free, and I don’t really care what other folks who’ve done the same thing get in the way of punishment. If he was driving and texting at the same time, here in the US we’d call that manslaughter - showing a reckless disregard for human life.
Plus since cell phone usage while drivng a car is illegal in most of the states I know of, the analagy to texting is just sitting right there.
But I don’t want to be the one to tell the victim’s family “oops, sorry, he didn’t mean to kill your loved one, he was only texting.”

951 right_wing2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:22:48am

Dow’s down over 150. Looks like Wall Street just LOVES the Obamessiah’s plan.

//

952 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:22:50am

re: #944 Occasional Reader

I posted something about that a couple of days ago.

I’m in DC too. (work here, live in MD)

953 albusteve  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:22:54am

the GOP made a disasterous choice with the Jindal rebutt…typical…
BO needs to be resisted every single inch of the way…calm cool analysis of his economic stupidity and social engineering…not for glamor points but for ideolgical honesty…people will listen if there is no hysteria and knee jerk…the best and the brightest have to come forth…names and personalities will sort themselves out…one thing for sure is I don’t want Jindal speaking for me

954 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:23:34am

re: #944 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

Don’t know if this has been reported here before, but here in DC, our supposedly squeaky-clean Mayor, Adrian Fenty, is in hot water over accepting a week-long junket to Dubai, paid fully by the United Arab Emirates, at which (among other things) he attended the womens’ tennis match from which that Israeli athlete had been banned.

Fenty’s reaction so far is a combination of evasiveness, and apparent bafflement that there could possibly be anything wrong with accepting a ritzy junket offer from a morally questionable foreign government.

No shit?!

Which “bitch” is he gonna’ blame?

955 yma o hyd  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:23:43am

re: #939 Dustyvet

Lord Ahmed was also banned from driving for a year, ordered to retake his test before he can drive again and told to pay £740 court costs.

Nothing for the victim’s family?

Here’s the full story, worth reading before jumping to conclusions:
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]

956 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:23:53am

re: #941 turn

I’ll say mother of four, welcome to LGF! When I used that one is SD I wasn’t sure it was even working correctly. The thing would go swish-swish-swish then stop for a moment. It was coin operated and I wasn’t sure I had the right amount of money in it or something. Ha!


Thank you!
And, yes, it seemed to me that the machine was not working properly at first as well, but that is the nature of the beast.

957 avanti  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:23:54am

re: #877 buzzsawmonkey

Since we’re talking intermittently about carbon dioxide, global warming, etc., if there is more carbon dioxide there is more for plants to breathe. If it gets warmer, Greenland’s icecaps may melt—well, so what? It was Greenland when it was first settled. If it is warmer, then the atmosphere can absorb more water—and there will be more rain. North Africa, desert now, was the breadbasket of the Roman Empire; more water, more rain, might make that area fertile again.

What the hell is everyone worried about?

Nothing to worry about if you are willing to trade a warm Greenland for a desert Kansas for example. Even if you discount mans effect on the current warming, some area’s will be devastated, while others will thrive.
i.e. losing Greenland’s ice cap will cost the USA some coastal cities while Greenland grows more crops. You can argue about man’s effect on climate change, but climate change is something to worry about if your part of the planet suffers.

958 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:24:02am

re: #946 Mad Al-Jaffee

I’ve been reading some of the Dumbass Underground comments about Jindal. Those losers are disgusting and delusional.

Lots of 7/11 jokes, I bet.

959 Summersong  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:24:10am

re: #914 jcm

Sorry that happened to you and your wife :(

re: #919 vxbush

Nothing I can’t replace, thank goodness.

re: #932 realwest

GACK! I’m really sorry to hear about your car! Where was it parked and what all got taken to = $4k?!

Thanks, Realwest -Parked in my driveway, in a quiet safe neighborhood.
My son does videography for nightclubs and various other events. He had borrowed my car and left his equipment in it. We are missing a Sony Video cam, a sound mixer, a GPS system, a Dell tablet computer, and external harddrive - various cables and cases…

960 AuntAcid  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:24:24am

re: #913 turn

Oh you guys are talking about Jindal. I thought he did, well, a horrible job with his speech. He talked too fast and was obviously nervous. Not nearly the poise the One has … just saying.

I tried to watch Gov. Geek give his SOTS speech. No doubt he is smart, but, boy is he annoying. Style counts, big time. Who the hell picked him anyway? The GOP has got to up their game or be satisfied to sit on the side lines.

961 Bloodnok  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:24:56am

re: #929 MandyManners

In How many ways can I mangle a sentence?

fixed

///ducks :p

962 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:24:57am

re: #800 Nevergiveup

Here’s another report on Israel’s Harop drone. Way cool.

Israel special - IAI’s Harop ups the stakes on SEAD missions

It can be launched from land, sea or air, has 6 hours loiter time, passive electro-optic sensors (ie. send out no signal that can be detected) and a 23kg HE warhead.

963 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:25:13am

re: #950 realwest

In which states is using a cell phone while driving illegal?

964 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:25:19am

re: #944 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

Don’t know if this has been reported here before, but here in DC, our supposedly squeaky-clean Mayor, Adrian Fenty, is in hot water over accepting a week-long junket to Dubai, paid fully by the United Arab Emirates, at which (among other things) he attended the womens’ tennis match from which that Israeli athlete had been banned.

Fenty’s reaction so far is a combination of evasiveness, and apparent bafflement that there could possibly be anything wrong with accepting a ritzy junket offer from a morally questionable foreign government.

Women’s tennis in Dubai? Don’t they trip over the burkhas?

965 albusteve  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:25:38am

re: #936 redheadredstate

OK I get what you’re saying but again if 2012 is looking shaky then 2010 is looking shakier. If ACORN has been and continues to be a negative factor in presidential elections which are on a grand scale how much easier will it be to manipulate local elections for senators/representatives? It will be shooting fish in a barrel. This stuff scares me skinny.

for one thing ACORN should be sued in every state in the union….that would be a start…reduce their wiggle room and they will blow sooner or later…there is a lot of criminal activity there

966 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:26:02am

re: #960 AuntAcid

I tried to watch Gov. Geek give his SOTS speech. No doubt he is smart, but, boy is he annoying. Style counts, big time. Who the hell picked him anyway? The GOP has got to up their game or be satisfied to sit on the side lines.

The GOP hasn’t put forth a Presidential candidate with style since Reagan.

967 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:26:17am

re: #952 Mad Al-Jaffee

I posted something about that a couple of days ago.

I’m in DC too. (work here, live in MD)

I miss Tony, don’t you? That nerdy bowtie was somehow reassuring.

968 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:26:18am

re: #960 AuntAcid

I tried to watch Gov. Geek give his SOTS speech. No doubt he is smart, but, boy is he annoying. Style counts, big time. Who the hell picked him anyway? The GOP has got to up their game or be satisfied to sit on the side lines.

True, why didn’t they get Palin to do that?

“See what you get when you hire a community organizer as leader of the free world.”

969 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:27:01am

re: #958 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Lots of 7/11 jokes, I bet.

But enough about Vice President Biden…

970 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:27:07am

So who in the GOP has the oration skills equal to Obama? Maybe Mitt Romney. Any others?

971 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:27:09am

re: #962 Kenneth

Here’s another report on Israel’s Harop drone. Way cool.

Israel special - IAI’s Harop ups the stakes on SEAD missions

It can be launched from land, sea or air, has 6 hours loiter time, passive electro-optic sensors (ie. send out no signal that can be detected) and a 23kg HE warhead.

From the article:

The Harop is a bigger, improved version of IAI’s Harpy

So Hillary works for IAI?

972 VegasRick  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:27:33am

re: #962 Kenneth

Here’s another report on Israel’s Harop drone. Way cool.

Israel special - IAI’s Harop ups the stakes on SEAD missions

It can be launched from land, sea or air, has 6 hours loiter time, passive electro-optic sensors (ie. send out no signal that can be detected) and a 23kg HE warhead.

Highly Efficient?

973 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:27:39am

re: #971 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

LOL!

974 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:27:52am

re: #915 redheadredstate

I really think Charles is on the right track trying to bring light to the creationist in the GOP. I think a large chunk of GOP votes could be gained if these guys didn’t try and mix politics with religion or come across like religious nut cases. I think Acorn has an effect but I don’t think it is significant compared to the other issues, like religion, at work here. These are my personal feelings, I don’t have evidence to back them up.

975 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:27:57am

re: #959 Summersong

Sorry that happened to you and your wife :(

re: #919 vxbush

Nothing I can’t replace, thank goodness.

re: #932 realwest

Thanks, Realwest -Parked in my driveway, in a quiet safe neighborhood.
My son does videography for nightclubs and various other events. He had borrowed my car and left his equipment in it. We are missing a Sony Video cam, a sound mixer, a GPS system, a Dell tablet computer, and external harddrive - various cables and cases…

Almost sounds like someone knew the stuff would be there.

Watch eBay and craigslist, the stuff may show up there.

976 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:28:45am

re: #954 MandyManners

No shit?!

Which “bitch” is he gonna’ blame?

It’s disappointing, because he just didn’t seem the type.

Also, I’ve bought my running shoes from his family business for many years now. Darn.

977 Summersong  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:28:52am

Oh and they missed a 17” HP laptop, some cash in the glovebox and a ViewSonic projector! I figure something scared them off before they got it all.

978 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:29:06am

re: #974 turn

I really think Charles is on the right track trying to bring light to the creationist in the GOP. I think a large chunk of GOP votes could be gained if these guys didn’t try and mix politics with religion or come across like religious nut cases. I think Acorn has an effect but I don’t think it is significant compared to the other issues, like religion, at work here. These are my personal feelings, I don’t have evidence to back them up.

That’s OK. There’s no evidence to support evolution, either.
///

979 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:29:07am

re: #915 redheadredstate

In a close election fraud can be a determining factor(see coleman/stuart smalley)but in a normal race it’s a non-factor.(too many votes to overcome)

980 yma o hyd  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:29:08am

Schiphol air disaster toll: nine dead and 50 injured after Turkish Airlines jet crashes

‘A Turkish Airlines flight has crashed into farmland just short of Schiphol airport in Amsterdam, killing nine people and injuring a further 50.
The Boeing 737-800 aircraft broke into three in the force of the impact, but worse casualties were spared because fire did not break out. ‘

981 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:29:25am

re: #955 yma o hyd

Here’s the full story, worth reading before jumping to conclusions:
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]

Thanks, I was asking?:)

982 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:29:33am

re: #967 Occasional Reader

Fenty and Obama are almost making me miss Marion Barry! At least he’s still in the news, entertaining us.

983 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:29:36am

re: #937 VegasRick

Then they really are as dumb as they look. They did not learn a thing sending old man McCain to bat? We really are in trouble.

We need to turn over the House in 2010 & then get a good Republican from the Republican Wing of the Party nominated in 2012. I suggest Romney. You are right about McCain.

984 Gus  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:29:41am

They should consider bringing out Romney next time. Also, drop the suit and tie and put him in front of a background familiar with people — perhaps like a restaurant or outdoors.

985 avanti  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:29:45am

re: #951 right_wing2

Dow’s down over 150. Looks like Wall Street just LOVES the Obamessiah’s plan.

//

Fox Business says it’s the record housing sales decline announced this A.M. driving the market down. Plans good or bad don’t drive the markets, facts do. They say it may turn upward later today once they absorb the bad housing news.

986 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:29:50am

re: #944 Occasional Reader
Good morning O.R.! Seems the comments at that column don’t reflect your more cultured tastes! LOL!

987 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:30:19am

re: #955 yma o hyd

Here’s the full story, worth reading before jumping to conclusions:
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]

The texting had no direct link but, a pattern of dangerous driving before the accident? And, I can see that the actions of the victim helped cause the accident and death—he had been drinking before he crashed before Ahmed even got there.

988 J.S.  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:30:47am

re: #963 MandyManners

Check out this list from Wiki article (at the end there’s the U.S. states which have bans on driving while using a cell phone)…link here.

989 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:30:51am

re: #972 VegasRick

Highly Efficient?

High Explosive ….. “Earth Shattering Kaboom”

/Marvin

990 Summersong  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:30:52am

re: #975 jcm

Almost sounds like someone knew the stuff would be there.

Watch eBay and craigslist, the stuff may show up there.

Good thinking! My son had worked a hair show earlier that day…might have been followed home….

991 VegasRick  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:30:53am

re: #983 opnion

We need to turn over the House in 2010 & then get a good Republican from the Republican Wing of the Party nominated in 2012. I suggest Romney. You are right about McCain.

I like Romney as well.

992 jcm  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:31:01am

re: #972 VegasRick

Highly Efficient?

High Explosive. Extremely fast propagation of the chemical reaction. More energy released in a shorter time frame, results in higher forces on the target.

993 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:31:19am

re: #917 Golem Akbar

I try to watch all of Obama’s speeches. I listen for him to say something meaningful, which is rare. I notice that his speechifying (word?) is excellent.

I suggest all Lizards watch Obama carefully. We could learn something from this master orator.

I agree, he really is good at public speaking. Then again I liked Bush’s no-nonsense from the heart style too. I always had the feeling Bush was telling the truth, I don’t have the same feeling when O speaks.

994 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:31:25am

re: #858 realwest

Ah yeah, but it IS Debka so don’t go getting your hopes up just yet!

True, but hopefully the system works. It won’t be a ‘magic bullet’ though. You could swat even stealth drones with AAA barrage fire prior to setting up your missiles. And it won’t do anything about Iran’s MiG-29s.

995 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:31:26am

re: #963 MandyManners

In new jersey,you need to use a hands free device.(blue tooth,head set speakerphone etc.)don’t let the cop see you holding it.

996 Mike from NY  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:31:33am

Gov. Jindal has potential for the resurgence of the GOP. He has Reagan like views on the economy, reducing the size of the federal gov., and the social issues. Give him time in office in Louisiana.

997 kansas  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:31:47am

re: #985 avanti

Fox Business says it’s the record housing sales decline announced this A.M. driving the market down. Plans good or bad don’t drive the markets, facts do. They say it may turn upward later today once they absorb the bad housing news.

Like it was big surprise this AM when they announced that? That was all over the news and well know last week. Every time the market rallies a bit and O puts his and stupid Joe’s mugs on TV, the market crashes. I think they are shorting stocks.

998 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:31:50am

re: #980 yma o hyd

Schiphol air disaster toll: nine dead and 50 injured after Turkish Airlines jet crashes

‘A Turkish Airlines flight has crashed into farmland just short of Schiphol airport in Amsterdam, killing nine people and injuring a further 50.
The Boeing 737-800 aircraft broke into three in the force of the impact, but worse casualties were spared because fire did not break out. ‘

Gah.

Our thoughts with the families and survivors.

999 albusteve  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:31:54am

re: #987 MandyManners

The texting had no direct link but, a pattern of dangerous driving before the accident? And, I can see that the actions of the victim helped cause the accident and death—he had been drinking before he crashed before Ahmed even got there.

operating a cell phone while driving is illegal in ABQ…and they enforce the law without hesitation

1000 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:32:05am

re: #982 Mad Al-Jaffee

Fenty and Obama are almost making me miss Marion Barry! At least he’s still in the news, entertaining us.


How about some marionberry ice cream?

1001 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:32:14am

Dryer buzzer’s buzzing. I’m having to wash just about every washable article of clothing now that I’ve figured out I’m allergic to my regular Tide. GAH. bbiab

1002 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:32:23am

re: #957 avanti

Nothing to worry about if you are willing to trade a warm Greenland for a desert Kansas for example. Even if you discount mans effect on the current warming, some area’s will be devastated, while others will thrive.
i.e. losing Greenland’s ice cap will cost the USA some coastal cities while Greenland grows more crops. You can argue about man’s effect on climate change, but climate change is something to worry about if your part of the planet suffers.

A few notes:

1. No one knows that a warm Greenland equals a desert Kansas. In fact, it may be that a warm Greenland equals better farming in what is currently the desert Southwest. The Ancient Pueblo were able to farm it until the later stages of the Medieval Climatic Optimum.
2. Greenland’s ice cap is mostly on water in the center of the island. It has a depression in the middle that is connected to the outside ocean. Thus, sea levels will not rise by much, if they do at all.
3. Panic mongering about climate change is irresponsible when we don’t fully know what can or will happen, and our models are poor at best at predicting it.

1003 albusteve  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:32:52am

re: #996 Mike from NY

Gov. Jindal has potential for the resurgence of the GOP. He has Reagan like views on the economy, reducing the size of the federal gov., and the social issues. Give him time in office in Louisiana.

no…he is poison

1004 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:33:00am

re: #983 opnion

We need to turn over the House in 2010 & then get a good Republican from the Republican Wing of the Party nominated in 2012. I suggest Romney. You are right about McCain.

Part of the problem is that in large part the republicans are only a little less corrupt than the dems. Recall that the bailout crap was started by Bush/Paulson. Paulson lied to us as to the reason for the bailout and what was going to be done with the money. Why is this never discussed?

Wonder why they kept Palin from the front stage in the McCain campaign? I do.

1005 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:33:19am

re: #924 gonecamping

I boycotted the Obama Platitude Pitch last night to enjoy some delicious homebrew with the DW, going to brew up a batch of Stout next week.

Cool! DW? Hey, you into whole grain brewing yet?

1006 redheadredstate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:34:04am

Thanks guys for the answers. I’m trying to talk myself off the ledge but it’s hard these days. It doesn’t help when you are a natural born worrier like I am. My kids say I have it down to a fine art. My son got me a fridge magnet which says “Worry is like a rocking chair, it gets you nowhere but it keeps you busy” I’ll try to be more optomistic. If anyone knows of a grass roots org that they could recommend joining to help in the fight against the left I would be open to joining. I think if I get more involved the worry will lessen. A good lesson for all of us.

1007 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:34:54am

re: #993 turn

I agree, he really is good at public speaking. Then again I liked Bush’s no-nonsense from the heart style too. I always had the feeling Bush was telling the truth, I don’t have the same feeling when O speaks.


True true and true. Bush bumbled and messed up his words, but they were from the heart, and he spoke honestly. He was real and I never get the feeling that Obama has anything real to say. In that way, Obama is the anti-Bush. Maybe that’s why Obama got elected: too much reality GWB.

1008 avanti  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:34:58am

re: #962 Kenneth

Here’s another report on Israel’s Harop drone. Way cool.

Israel special - IAI’s Harop ups the stakes on SEAD missions

It can be launched from land, sea or air, has 6 hours loiter time, passive electro-optic sensors (ie. send out no signal that can be detected) and a 23kg HE warhead.

We need more weapons systems like that, but the Air Force and Navy don’t like pilotless air craft. They’d prefer one much cooler 400 million dollar fighter over a 100 killer drones.
We are approaching the day when remotely piloted aircraft will do the job safer and cheaper.

1009 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:35:18am

re: #1006 redheadredstate

Thanks guys for the answers. I’m trying to talk myself off the ledge but it’s hard these days. It doesn’t help when you are a natural born worrier like I am. My kids say I have it down to a fine art. My son got me a fridge magnet which says “Worry is like a rocking chair, it gets you nowhere but it keeps you busy” I’ll try to be more optomistic. If anyone knows of a grass roots org that they could recommend joining to help in the fight against the left I would be open to joining. I think if I get more involved the worry will lessen. A good lesson for all of us.

Illigitimi non-carbondurum.

1010 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:35:23am

re: #985 avanti

Fox Business says it’s the record housing sales decline announced this A.M. driving the market down. Plans good or bad don’t drive the markets, facts do. They say it may turn upward later today once they absorb the bad housing news.

Um, plans, good or bad, do help drive the market. In fact, because FDR kept changing plans and kept Wall Street in limbo as to what he would do, the markets stayed down during the 1930s rather than recovering. I see Obama making much the same mistake.

1011 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:35:25am

re: #992 jcm

High Explosive. Extremely fast propagation of the chemical reaction

IIRC the technical definition of “high explosive” is that the blast wave is supersonic. (Or maybe that’s a necessary but not sufficient condition… I don’t recall for sure.)

1012 albusteve  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:35:40am

re: #1006 redheadredstate

Thanks guys for the answers. I’m trying to talk myself off the ledge but it’s hard these days. It doesn’t help when you are a natural born worrier like I am. My kids say I have it down to a fine art. My son got me a fridge magnet which says “Worry is like a rocking chair, it gets you nowhere but it keeps you busy” I’ll try to be more optomistic. If anyone knows of a grass roots org that they could recommend joining to help in the fight against the left I would be open to joining. I think if I get more involved the worry will lessen. A good lesson for all of us.

[Link: www.pjtv.com…]

1013 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:35:46am

re: #963 MandyManners

In which states is using a cell phone while driving illegal?

It’s illegal in Chicago if you’re not using a headset, but it is not a statewide law.

1014 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:36:05am

re: #994 Dark_Falcon

True, but hopefully the system works. It won’t be a ‘magic bullet’ though. You could swat even stealth drones with AAA barrage fire prior to setting up your missiles. And it won’t do anything about Iran’s MiG-29s.

The MiG-29 has had a pretty disappointing combat record against other fighters. I’d be really worried about the pinnacle of Iranian aerospace technology - the Saequeh! Oh no, they added an extra tail fin to an 40 year old F-5! In another 20 years, they might develop the Hornet!

1015 redheadredstate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:36:09am

re: #1009 Harry Tuttle

Illigitimi non-carbondurum.

Funny I thought I was the only one who used that phrase and you are right.

1016 Mike from NY  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:36:22am

#1003 albusteve: Why do you say Gov. Jindal is poison? If not him, then who can rescue the GOp for 2012?

1017 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:36:22am

re: #996 Mike from NY

and the social issues

Right there is where we hit the problem.

1018 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:36:28am

re: #955 yma o hyd
Afternoon {yma} from your link:

But the judge went on: “It is of the greatest importance that people realize what a serious offense dangerous driving of this type is.”

He concluded: “I have come to the conclusion that by reason of the prolonged, deliberate, repeated and highly dangerous driving for which you have pleaded guilty, only an immediate custodial sentence can be justified.”

After jailing him for 12 weeks, the judge also imposed a one year driving ban and ordered the peer to pay £500 prosecution costs.

Sure seems to be a pretty stiff sentence for someone who apparently did nothing wrong. Wonder why such a stiff sentence?

1019 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:36:36am

Effete moonbat douchebaggery, live on video.

1020 bolivar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:36:54am

re: #957 avanti

Nothing to worry about if you are willing to trade a warm Greenland for a desert Kansas for example. Even if you discount mans effect on the current warming, some area’s will be devastated, while others will thrive.
i.e. losing Greenland’s ice cap will cost the USA some coastal cities while Greenland grows more crops. You can argue about man’s effect on climate change, but climate change is something to worry about if your part of the planet suffers.

None of this malarkey can be proved nor can the “models” that spout this crap be. All smoke and mirrors - just like the porkulus package. All baloney all the time.

1021 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:37:10am

re: #1010 Honorary Yooper

Um, plans, good or bad, do help drive the market. In fact, because FDR kept changing plans and kept Wall Street in limbo as to what he would do, the markets stayed down during the 1930s rather than recovering. I see Obama making much the same mistake.

Thank you.

1022 Summersong  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:37:12am

re: #963 MandyManners

In which states is using a cell phone while driving illegal?

It’s illegal in CA.

1023 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:37:38am

re: #996 Mike from NY

With the ID baggage,he’s poison now.they’ll pound the crap out of him on that alone.(not to mention the whole exorcism thing)jindal is the democrats choice for the rep.They are drooling at the thought of him.

1024 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:38:09am

re: #959 Summersong
Geez. I’d guess you’d better not figure you’re living in a quiet, SAFE neighborhood from now on.

1025 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:38:18am

re: #1009 Harry Tuttle

Illigitimi non-carbondurum.


Illigitimi non carbundum est. According to my Latin-speaking bud who says this is not real Latin. My buzzkill buddy.

1026 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:38:20am

re: #963 MandyManners

In which states is using a cell phone while driving illegal?

It is illegal in CT.

1027 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:38:31am

re: #901 Summersong

Ugh

Another day of DJI hemorrhaging -178 and counting

and my car was ransacked last night -$4,000 in various equipment was stolen.

Happy new year!



Four thousand dollars
? Good grief, what did you have in the car?

1028 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:39:00am

re: #1013 Dark_Falcon

It’s illegal in Chicago if you’re not using a headset, but it is not a statewide law.

Does it need to be a Bluetooth like headset, or can I continue to duct tape my cellphone to a baseball cap?

1029 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:39:04am

re: #960 AuntAcid

I tried to watch Gov. Geek give his SOTS speech. No doubt he is smart, but, boy is he annoying. Style counts, big time. Who the hell picked him anyway? The GOP has got to up their game or be satisfied to sit on the side lines.

Yes, we need a Fred Thompson style speaker or something. This creationist thing is really going to hurt Jindal in 2012.

1030 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:39:07am

re: #1003 albusteve

no…he is poison

He certainly is. And, you can already see the GOP, regionally and countrywide, lining up behind politicians like this.

Locally, there are a number of “new blood” positioning themselves with the GOP, and they are all publicly big social issues conservatives.

This is not just spot and miss. I can’t keep up with all the local “personalities,” but I suspect Lizards reporting in, we would find a similar situation as I am finding.

The only way it works will be in spite of itself. That would be if the Democrats so screw up things that it comes around that the country would resurrect Jerry Fawell and vote for him if needed.

Sort of a total meltdown in DC, these social issue conservatives are going to loose it for us in the next election cycle.

1031 J.S.  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:39:23am

re: #1022 Summersong

from Wiki article. Cell phones are banned:
California
Connecticut
District of Columbia
—The city of Chicago, Illinois
—The City of Ft. Smith, Arkansas
New Jersey
—The cities of Santa Fe and Albuquerque, New Mexico
New York
—The city of Brooklyn, Ohio
Washington
All United States Department of Defense Installations

1032 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:39:23am

re: #1025 Golem Akbar

Illigitimi non carbundum est. According to my Latin-speaking bud who says this is not real Latin. My buzzkill buddy.

No it’s not Latin but it is still valid, google it.

1033 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:39:35am

re: #1026 Ford_Prefect

It is illegal in CT.

I saw some some dimbulb lady talking on her cellphone in the school zone this morning. Ticketable offfense.

1034 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:39:40am

re: #985 avanti

Confidence, fear and expectation drive markets. So far the markets have little confidence in Obama’s response to the crisis. Selling now indicates a fear things will get worse before any expectation that it will get better.

1035 Mike from NY  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:39:49am

re: #1023 Boondock St. Bender

With the ID baggage,he’s poison now.they’ll pound the crap out of him on that alone.(not to mention the whole exorcism thing)jindal is the democrats choice for the rep.They are drooling at the thought of him.

Help me understand your concern. What is the ID baggage?

1036 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:39:50am

re: #995 Boondock St. Bender

In new jersey,you need to use a hands free device.(blue tooth,head set speakerphone etc.)don’t let the cop see you holding it.


Yeah, but have you ever noticed all the freakin’ cops in Jersey driving around with cell phones glued to their ears? They sure as hades aren’t talking to their wives.

1037 albusteve  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:39:54am

re: #1016 Mike from NY

#1003 albusteve: Why do you say Gov. Jindal is poison? If not him, then who can rescue the GOp for 2012?

Jindal is a creationist…
I have no clue who can rescue the GOP

1038 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:40:03am

re: #963 MandyManners
At the very least, New York State. Don’t know about others, but I’d reckon if you check the blue states you’d find the same thing. And if you drive while using a cell phone in NYC it’s really your butt. Points on license and big fine.

1039 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:40:06am

Mastermind of 9/11 gives Texans a chill


[Link: www.chron.com…]

1040 bulwrk  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:40:10am

re: #1022 Summersong

It’s illegal in CA.

Not exactly,you can use your cell while driving as long as you are using it with a hands free device.

1041 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:40:13am

re: #963 MandyManners

In which states is using a cell phone while driving illegal?

California for one.

1042 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:40:24am

re: #1029 turn

Yes, we need a Fred Thompson style speaker or something. This creationist thing is really going to hurt Jindal in 2012.

If he keeps giving speeches like the one last night, he won’t be a factor in 2012.

1043 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:40:56am

re: #1029 turn

Yes, we need a Fred Thompson style speaker or something. This creationist thing is really going to hurt Jindal in 2012.

Fred Thompson would be my choice. Problem is he is already 66.

1044 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:41:06am

re: #1023 Boondock St. Bender

With the ID baggage,he’s poison now.they’ll pound the crap out of him on that alone.(not to mention the whole exorcism thing)jindal is the democrats choice for the rep.They are drooling at the thought of him.

And they’d wait to do it after he got the nomination.

1045 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:41:14am

re: #1014 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The MiG-29 has had a pretty disappointing combat record against other fighters.

That “The Last Ace” article from The Atlantic Monthly I keep linking to includes an actual photo recovered from an Iraqi MiG-29 pilot’s HUD, of an AIM-7 missile inbound from a USAF F-15, microseconds before impact. That last thing that pilot ever saw. Quite startling.

That said, I don’t know if the MiG-29 has been tested in air combat under conditions in which it didn’t have the odds HEAVILY stacked against it. I am always leery about “misunderestimating” enemy equipment.

1046 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:41:23am

re: #970 Golem Akbar
RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!

1047 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:41:30am

re: #963 MandyManners

In which states is using a cell phone while driving illegal?

Oh and turnspawn (the dumb a@#) just got a ticket for that believe it or not.

1048 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:41:59am

In Georgia I think driving while talking on a cell phone is MANDATORY!

When I drive near a cop car, I put mine up to my ear and pretend I’m talking, just in case!

//

1049 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:42:07am

re: #1043 Ford_Prefect

Fred Thompson would be my choice. Problem is he is already 66.

Fred aint the guy.

1050 kansas  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:42:14am

re: #996 Mike from NY

Gov. Jindal has potential for the resurgence of the GOP. He has Reagan like views on the economy, reducing the size of the federal gov., and the social issues. Give him time in office in Louisiana.

He seemed like a doofus to me. I was disappointed.

1051 jaunte  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:42:15am

Spiegel online slide show: Some interesting floats in the form of 3d political cartoons from Carnival parades in Germany.
“This one depicts banks vomiting bad debt on tax payers.”
[Link: www.spiegel.de…]

1052 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:42:16am

Can’t stand the SoB but I’ll give credit where do, if accurate: Byrd: Obama in power grab

1053 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:42:39am

re: #1008 avanti

For most tasks, but not all. No drone can do the work of an interceptor, not yet. But we definitely need some of these Israeli machines. Who knows, we may soon see a demonstration of how effective the are in destroying a top-of-the-line air defense system.

1054 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:43:04am

re: #1045 Occasional Reader

That “The Last Ace” article from The Atlantic Monthly I keep linking to includes an actual photo recovered from an Iraqi MiG-29 pilot’s HUD, of an AIM-7 missile inbound from a USAF F-15, microseconds before impact. That last thing that pilot ever saw. Quite startling.

That said, I don’t know if the MiG-29 has been tested in air combat under conditions in which it didn’t have the odds HEAVILY stacked against it. I am always leery about “misunderestimating” enemy equipment.

Like they say, it’s the singer & not the song, but the Serbs & Iraqis in MiG-29s couldn’t match up against our F-15s, I doubt if the Iranians in theirs will fare much better against the Israelis & their F-15s.

1055 yma o hyd  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:43:17am

re: #1018 realwest

Afternoon {yma} from your link:

Sure seems to be a pretty stiff sentence for someone who apparently did nothing wrong. Wonder why such a stiff sentence?

Hiya, {rw}!
The sentence was given, probably, because he did send text messages while driving, even if these had nothung to do with the crash itself.
I think …

1056 kansas  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:43:35am

re: #1049 Harry Tuttle

Fred aint the guy.

We could always hope for Sarah Palin and get another media food fight and Obama for 4 more. //

1057 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:43:45am

re: #1028 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Does it need to be a Bluetooth like headset, or can I continue to duct tape my cellphone to a baseball cap?

It needs to be a dedicated headset.

1058 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:43:47am

re: #988 J.S.

Check out this list from Wiki article (at the end there’s the U.S. states which have bans on driving while using a cell phone)…link here.

Four, huh?

1059 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:43:49am

re: #1041 turn

California for one.

In the City Of Chicago.

1060 albusteve  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:44:09am

re: #1046 realwest

RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!

it seems to me he should be out in front a bit more regardless of his political future…people love him…wtf is Rudy?

1061 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:44:18am

re: #1039 Dustyvet

Mastermind of 9/11 gives Texans a chill

[Link: www.chron.com…]

Some good comments there. We Texans don’t put up with their crap. KSM should already be in hell, instead of relaxing at Club Gitmo.

1062 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:44:22am

Morning all.

Instapundit has a poll on what should be done to constrain government spending.

One idea that I like - get Congress to meet only a few months a year and force them to meet in cities other than DC.

That would force lobbyists onto the road and force them to spend more money visiting different members districts.

Meanwhile, it gets congress out of the DC spend spend spend culture.

Lastly, it makes it more likely that you will be heard by your representative.

1063 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:44:49am

re: #995 Boondock St. Bender

In new jersey,you need to use a hands free device.(blue tooth,head set speakerphone etc.)don’t let the cop see you holding it.

Doesn’t merely talking distract a driver?

1064 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:45:03am

re: #1004 Harry Tuttle

Part of the problem is that in large part the republicans are only a little less corrupt than the dems. Recall that the bailout crap was started by Bush/Paulson. Paulson lied to us as to the reason for the bailout and what was going to be done with the money. Why is this never discussed?

Wonder why they kept Palin from the front stage in the McCain campaign? I do.


You are right about W & Paulson.
As for Palin , I think that the McCain campaign kept her low key, becuse McCain couldn’t deal with the competition.

1065 Summersong  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:45:18am

re: #1040 bulwrk

Not exactly,you can use your cell while driving as long as you are using it with a hands free device.

Yes. You are right. Thanks for the fact check!

1066 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:45:30am

re: #999 albusteve

operating a cell phone while driving is illegal in ABQ…and they enforce the law without hesitation

Good. What about a head-set?

1067 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:45:40am

re: #1052 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Can’t stand the SoB but I’ll give credit where do, if accurate: Byrd: Obama in power grab

Who woke up Byrd? Or is he afraid that there’ll be more things named after BHO than are named after him?

1068 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:45:48am

re: #1056 kansas

We could always hope for Sarah Palin and get another media food fight and Obama for 4 more. //

So you are letting the MFM choose your candidate then?

1069 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:45:59am

re: #1052 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Can’t stand the SoB but I’ll give credit where do, if accurate: Byrd: Obama in power grab

Byrd, bus, thump, in 5,4,3…

1070 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:46:00am

re: #1063 MandyManners

Doesn’t merely talking distract a driver?

So do shiny things & dogs with puffy tails.

1071 BigAl  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:46:03am

The GOP shapes up this way:
Romney
Giuliani
Palin

They are proven successful executives. Based on MSM attacks, the left fears Palin the most.

But 2010 is first. The above three can raise a hunk of $$. The RNC, led by Michael Steele, looks promising.

1072 VegasRick  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:46:13am

re: #1046 realwest

RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!

Yep. Rudy/Romney, Romney/Rudy can win.

1073 J.S.  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:46:14am

re: #1058 MandyManners

hmmm…five states (five cities in the U.S., if one includes Washington, D.C.)

1074 avanti  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:46:20am

re: #1002 Honorary Yooper

A few notes:


3. Panic mongering about climate change is irresponsible when we don’t fully know what can or will happen, and our models are poor at best at predicting it.

I agree with your number 3. On the other hand, some on the right take the extreme on the other side by claiming the earths warming is somehow a fake conspiracy by science to destroy the economy or make money for certain industries.
To continue to dispute the science gives the ID crowd a valid argument to be anti-science. Fight about the how much of a effect man has on the warming, what effect it will have good or bad, and what if anything to do about it.
It’s not unreasonable to take a position that we can reduce use of fossil fuel no matter your feelings on AGW .

1075 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:46:36am

re: #1058 MandyManners

Morning Mandy… can I have a breakfast whack?

1076 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:46:44am

re: #1039 Dustyvet

Mastermind of 9/11 gives Texans a chill


[Link: www.chron.com…]

From your link:

Rep. Michael McCaul called the moment chilling and eerie. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee said she froze in place. And Rep. Pete Olson stared through the one-way glass, thinking, “My God, that’s the man who planned the attacks.”

There he was in a stark cell at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp in Cuba, kneeling on a prayer rug, head bowed, wearing the white cap of faithful Muslim men worldwide.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, 44, the mastermind of the Sept. 11 al-Qaida attacks on the United States, appeared thinner than in the photos taken the 2003 night of his capture in Pakistan.

But from what three members of Houston’s congressional delegation observed and were told during a one-day tour of the Guantanamo Bay facility, Mohammed appeared every bit as bent on America’s destruction as the day he orchestrated the synchronized suicide attacks against the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington.

The lawmakers said they did not speak with Mohammed after they observed him through a one-way glass

Reminds me of that scene from Independence Day where the President asks the captured E.T., “what do you want us to do?”, and it replies, “die”.


(As an aside, I’m surprised Sheila Jackson Lee didn’t give KSM a big hug)

1077 bolivar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:46:45am

re: #1064 opnion

You are right about W & Paulson.
As for Palin , I think that the McCain campaign kept her low key, becuse McCain couldn’t deal with the competition.

Bingo! She shone so much brighter than Mclame ever did that they could not allow her to overshadow his incompetence.

1078 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:46:52am

re: #1052 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Can’t stand the SoB but I’ll give credit where do, if accurate: Byrd: Obama in power grab

Now why on Earth would a former Grand Kleagle of the KKK want to say something like that about Obama?
/

1079 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:46:55am

re: #1006 redheadredstate

Thanks guys for the answers. I’m trying to talk myself off the ledge but it’s hard these days. It doesn’t help when you are a natural born worrier like I am. My kids say I have it down to a fine art. My son got me a fridge magnet which says “Worry is like a rocking chair, it gets you nowhere but it keeps you busy” I’ll try to be more optomistic. If anyone knows of a grass roots org that they could recommend joining to help in the fight against the left I would be open to joining. I think if I get more involved the worry will lessen. A good lesson for all of us.

I’m late so excuse me if someone’s already mentioned this but, are you near where a tea party is being planned?

1080 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:47:31am

re: #1032 Harry Tuttle

No it’s not Latin but it is still valid, google it.

No, that’s true. I use it all the time.

1081 kansas  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:47:34am

re: #1068 Harry Tuttle

So you are letting the MFM choose your candidate then?

Not sure what you mean. But if Sarah Palin is our candidate, the MFM will go nuts and destroy her again. They still are doing everything they can to further damage her.

1082 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:47:48am

re: #1018 realwest

Afternoon {yma} from your link:


Sure seems to be a pretty stiff sentence for someone who apparently did nothing wrong. Wonder why such a stiff sentence?

He plead guilty to dangerous driving.

1083 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:47:52am

re: #1067 Ward Cleaver

Who woke up Byrd? Or is he afraid that there’ll be more things named after BHO than are named after him?

Ding !

1084 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:47:56am

re: #1063 MandyManners

Doesn’t merely talking distract a driver?

A former friend of mine, used to read his morning paper on the drive to work…Till the morning he encountered the back end of an 18 wheeler on I-35W.

1085 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:48:00am

re: #1071 BigAl

The GOP shapes up this way:
Romney
Giuliani
Palin

They are proven successful executives. Based on MSM attacks, the left fears Palin the most.

But 2010 is first. The above three can raise a hunk of $$. The RNC, led by Michael Steele, looks promising.


“the left fears Palin the most.”

One of her strongest factors!

1086 turn  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:48:09am

re: #1007 Golem Akbar

True true and true. Bush bumbled and messed up his words, but they were from the heart, and he spoke honestly. He was real and I never get the feeling that Obama has anything real to say. In that way, Obama is the anti-Bush. Maybe that’s why Obama got elected: too much reality GWB.

I go back on occasion and listen to his speech in the Cathedral after 9/11. Talk about speaking from the heart, and he did exactly what he said he would do. He took the fight to the terrorists.

1087 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:48:32am

re: #1054 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Like they say, it’s the singer & not the song, but the Serbs & Iraqis in MiG-29s couldn’t match up against our F-15s, I doubt if the Iranians in theirs will fare much better against the Israelis & their F-15s.

Not unless they pilots are a lot better than I expect them to be.

1088 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:48:55am

re: #1063 MandyManners

Doesn’t merely talking distract a driver?

I know when my wife starts yammering at me while I’m driving, it’s distracting!

//

1089 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:48:56am

re: #1072 VegasRick

Yep. Rudy/Romney, Romney/Rudy can win.

Why, in heaven name would anyone want Rudy? His campaigning, or lack of it, should be enough to suggest to anyone that he is either not ready or there is some major flaw going on here.

There is no way to blame his poor performance on anyone but himself.

1090 kansas  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:49:29am

Hey, look at the Dow, down only 86, coming back strong. Quick get some Demmy on TV to fuck it up.

1091 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:49:37am

re: #1081 kansas

Not sure what you mean. But if Sarah Palin is our candidate, the MFM will go nuts and destroy her again. They still are doing everything they can to further damage her.

Again, that to me is a reason to support her. The media doesn’t automatically win.

1092 yma o hyd  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:49:52am

I’m still in shock about the sudden death of Dave Cameron’s first child.
He was severely disabled - but Dave Cameron never hid him, always included him, and you could see the deep love he had for that boy.
Dave Cameron, btw, is the leader of the Tory Party, and we will do our best to see him as the new Prime Minister of the UK.
Thats why it is news here, very sad news.

1093 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:50:06am

re: #1075 Walter L. Newton

Morning Mandy… can I have a breakfast whack?

With or without syrup and powdered sugar?

1094 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:50:10am

re: #1038 realwest

At the very least, New York State. Don’t know about others, but I’d reckon if you check the blue states you’d find the same thing. And if you drive while using a cell phone in NYC it’s really your butt. Points on license and big fine.

They get you at the toll booths, big time…

1095 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:50:15am

re: #1054 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Like they say, it’s the singer & not the song,

So you’re saying Iranian pilots driving MiG-29s will turn out to be the air combat equivalent of this?

1096 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:50:29am

re: #1086 turn

I go back on occasion and listen to his speech in the Cathedral after 9/11. Talk about speaking from the heart, and he did exactly what he said he would do. He took the fight to the terrorists.

I had some disagreements with Bush on a few issues, but I never doubted his sincerity. I trusted his words. Not so with Obama.

1097 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:50:33am

re: #1093 MandyManners

With or without syrup and powdered sugar?

Kinky!

1098 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:50:46am

re: #1035 Mike from NY

Intrlligent design,teaching creationism in science class as an oposing veiw to darwinian evolution.He signed a law that allows this in louisiana.That may get him kudos locally,nationally they’ll bludgeon him and by assoc.the rep.party.Charles has lots-o-threads on this.

1099 redheadredstate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:50:48am

re: #1079 MandyManners

I’m late so excuse me if someone’s already mentioned this but, are you near where a tea party is being planned?

Tea Party? As in Boston? I don’t know, do tell me more. I’m in the D/FW area of Texas

1100 albusteve  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:50:57am

re: #1066 MandyManners

Good. What about a head-set?

re: #1066 MandyManners

Good. What about a head-set?

illegal…no exceptions

1101 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:51:06am

re: #1004 Harry Tuttle
Um, excuse me but first of all the GOP has NO chance of capturing the House in 2010 - just too many seats that they’d have to take. They can however gain enough seats in the Senate to help stop the madness from continuing.
Secondly, Bush didn’t really start the bailout (though you’re correct that Paulson and Bernake urged him to do so with EXTREMELY dire warnings about what would happen if he didn’t, but it was the DEMOCRATSLEFTISTS in the House that wrote the bills Bush signed - that he perhaps shouldn’t have signed them is debatable - the US Banking Industry WAS going through an unprecedented credit crisis and lots of businesses - small and large, suddenly found that they had no access to their approved credit lines (cause the Banks weren’t lending to ANYONE) and were starting to go under at an accelerating pace. But this Stimulus Bill and everything after it is all on The LEFTISTS - they will, with the help of the MSM - blame Bush for it, but that’s just not the case.

1102 avanti  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:51:06am

re: #1020 bolivar

None of this malarkey can be proved nor can the “models” that spout this crap be. All smoke and mirrors - just like the porkulus package. All baloney all the time.

A perfect example of the kind of comment that make you appear anti-science, just add a one word.

“None of this “evolution” malarkey can be proved nor can the “models” that spout this crap be. All smoke and mirrors - just like the porkulus package. All baloney all the time.”

1103 kansas  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:51:25am

re: #1091 Harry Tuttle

Again, that to me is a reason to support her. The media doesn’t automatically win.

Well, I support her in my heart, but I would not wish that thrashing on her again. I really would like to see someone like a Michael Steele, or David Patreus that media bashing would not work on.

1104 BigAl  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:51:36am

Market rebounding a bit….speeches irrelevant.

1105 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:51:59am

re: #1091 Harry Tuttle

Again, that to me is a reason to support her. The media doesn’t automatically win.


If she is as smart as I think she is, she could do real battle with the liberal media and win. Most people would applaud that. That would be a sweet win worth having.

1106 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:52:03am

bbiab

1107 kansas  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:52:31am

re: #1104 BigAl

Market rebounding a bit….speeches irrelevant.

See 1090 above.

1108 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:52:48am

re: #1053 Kenneth

For most tasks, but not all. No drone can do the work of an interceptor, not yet. But we definitely need some of these Israeli machines. Who knows, we may soon see a demonstration of how effective the are in destroying a top-of-the-line air defense system.

Correct. There’s a ways to go before a guy remotely piloting a drone can match the situational awareness and vision of a live pilot in the cockpit. Clipping people in cars and truck on the ground, or shooting down AA missiles is quite different from air-to-air combat.

1109 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:53:13am

re: #1069 Walter L. Newton

Byrd, bus, thump, in 5,4,3…

Byrd strike? ;-)

1110 bolivar  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:53:20am

re: #1093 MandyManners

With or without syrup and powdered sugar?


MMMMMMM SYRUP!

1111 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:53:20am

re: #1044 Ward Cleaver

You know it.
“come into my parlor,said the spider to the fly…..”

1112 VegasRick  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:53:22am

re: #1089 Walter L. Newton

Why, in heaven name would anyone want Rudy? His campaigning, or lack of it, should be enough to suggest to anyone that he is either not ready or there is some major flaw going on here.

There is no way to blame his poor performance on anyone but himself.

I believe the Republicans knew they were going to lose in 08’ so they sent McCain to slaughter. Rudy and Romney were kinda low key in 08’ not so much in 2012. Just my opinion.

1113 albusteve  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:53:36am

re: #1099 redheadredstate

Tea Party? As in Boston? I don’t know, do tell me more. I’m in the D/FW area of Texas

I just sent you a link….check M Malkins site foe more

1114 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:54:12am

re: #1094 tfc3rid

They get you at the toll booths, big time…

In my opinion, the easiest way to see the effect of cell phone usage on a driver’s ability to concentrate is to watch drivers entering and exiting runabouts.

We have 5 smalls ones in the course of one mile on my street, and I have seen this over and over. Most of the drivers who enter the runabout without yielding of even looking are the ones talking on a cell phone.

And I have actually seen a cell phone user t-bone a SUV and flipped it on to the circle median, right outside of my apartment.

1115 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:55:24am

re: #1063 MandyManners

Doesn’t merely talking distract a driver?

From what I’ve seen (sorry, no link), the evidence is indeed mounting that cellphone use is more distracting, and hence more of a risk than merely talking to a passenger. Anecdotally, in my personal experience this makes sense to me. I can recall being a passenger in a car on a curvy hillside road, the driver took a phone call, and as he become more and more engrossed in the call, he drove slower and slower, until we were nearly stopped. I had to yell at him to “wake up and drive”.
People just seem to drift off into another plane with cellphones, in a way that doesn’t happen so much talking in person to someone who’s in the same “frame” you are.

1116 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:56:59am

re: #1090 kansas

Hey, look at the Dow, down only 86, coming back strong. Quick get some Demmy on TV to fuck it up.

Has Timmy Geithner opened his mouth yet? That should do the trick.

1117 realwest  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:57:14am

re: #1017 Occasional Reader Don’t want to get into any long arguments over this, but while we all worry about the Socons, how come no one ever talks about the Democrats social programs, beliefs and what not?
And why don’t we focus some on the Focons (word I just made up for Foreign Policy Conservatives, over which the POTUS has complete control - or nearly complete control vs the FoDems (another made up word)?

1118 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:57:28am

re: #1089 Walter L. Newton

Why, in heaven name would anyone want Rudy? His campaigning, or lack of it, should be enough to suggest to anyone that he is either not ready or there is some major flaw going on here.

There is no way to blame his poor performance on anyone but himself.

Yeah, but he would have campaigned in the General Election better than McCain & out dueled BHO in debates.

1119 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:58:44am

re: #1101 realwest

Um, excuse me but first of all the GOP has NO chance of capturing the House in 2010 - just too many seats that they’d have to take. They can however gain enough seats in the Senate to help stop the madness from continuing.
Secondly, Bush didn’t really start the bailout (though you’re correct that Paulson and Bernake urged him to do so with EXTREMELY dire warnings about what would happen if he didn’t, but it was the DEMOCRATSLEFTISTS in the House that wrote the bills Bush signed - that he perhaps shouldn’t have signed them is debatable - the US Banking Industry WAS going through an unprecedented credit crisis and lots of businesses - small and large, suddenly found that they had no access to their approved credit lines (cause the Banks weren’t lending to ANYONE) and were starting to go under at an accelerating pace. But this Stimulus Bill and everything after it is all on The LEFTISTS - they will, with the help of the MSM - blame Bush for it, but that’s just not the case.

Paulson lied (to us) about buying distressed mortgages. He was Bushes man.

1120 right_wing2  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:59:08am

The Dow WAS down 155, it’s now down 126, so the media will spin that as a 30 point increase.

1121 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:59:17am

re: #1105 Golem Akbar

If she is as smart as I think she is, she could do real battle with the liberal media and win. Most people would applaud that. That would be a sweet win worth having.

Uh huh!

1122 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:59:22am

re: #1117 realwest

how come no one ever talks about the Democrats social programs, beliefs and what not?

Um, you’re kidding me, right? You mean no one HERE ever talks about the Dems social programs, etc.? Are you and I reading different LGFs?!

1123 albusteve  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:00:12am

re: #1101 realwest

Um, excuse me but first of all the GOP has NO chance of capturing the House in 2010 - just too many seats that they’d have to take. They can however gain enough seats in the Senate to help stop the madness from continuing.
Secondly, Bush didn’t really start the bailout (though you’re correct that Paulson and Bernake urged him to do so with EXTREMELY dire warnings about what would happen if he didn’t, but it was the DEMOCRATSLEFTISTS in the House that wrote the bills Bush signed - that he perhaps shouldn’t have signed them is debatable - the US Banking Industry WAS going through an unprecedented credit crisis and lots of businesses - small and large, suddenly found that they had no access to their approved credit lines (cause the Banks weren’t lending to ANYONE) and were starting to go under at an accelerating pace. But this Stimulus Bill and everything after it is all on The LEFTISTS - they will, with the help of the MSM - blame Bush for it, but that’s just not the case.

the GOP turned 56 in 1994….jus sayin

1124 BigAl  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:00:12am

re: #1112 VegasRick

I believe the Republicans knew they were going to lose in 08’ so they sent McCain to slaughter. Rudy and Romney were kinda low key in 08’ not so much in 2012. Just my opinion.

Rudy was crucified by the New York Times. His record in NYC is the template of conservative success.

His stand on abortion was terribly misunderstood by the pro-life lobby. Please don’t ask him if he’s a creationist or evolutionist.

1125 avanti  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:01:59am

re: #1108 Ward Cleaver

Correct. There’s a ways to go before a guy remotely piloting a drone can match the situational awareness and vision of a live pilot in the cockpit. Clipping people in cars and truck on the ground, or shooting down AA missiles is quite different from air-to-air combat.

I agree, but the day is coming when even that will not be true. There is no reason a remote pilot could not be more aware of the situational awareness and without some distractions. He could be controlling a fighter that could pull 12G turns that would kill him if he was on board and out fight a human pilot by just letting the computer lock on the enemy and do the kill at the air frames maximum loading.

1126 bulwrk  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:02:37am

re: #1102 avanti

Evolution has withstood 150 years of critic.

1127 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:05:19am

re: #1067 Ward Cleaver

Who woke up Byrd? Or is he afraid that there’ll be more things named after BHO than are named after him?

Now that I hadn’t considered!

1128 Silvergirl  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:05:53am

re: #897 VegasRick

Where the hell is Mitt Romney?

Helping Meg Whitman

Giving Checks to the Ones Who Voted Against Pork

LA Times take on it

Today, as ABC’s perceptive Rick Klein notes, Romney’s PAC — Free and Strong America — donated $1,000 each to 11 Republican congressmen targeted in a retaliatory ad campaign by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee for voting against President Obama’s economic stimulus bill. Romney praised the Republicans as “standing up for fiscal responsibility and saying no to spending abuse.”

1129 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:08:26am
1130 opnion  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:27:10am

re: #1112 VegasRick

I believe the Republicans knew they were going to lose in 08’ so they sent McCain to slaughter. Rudy and Romney were kinda low key in 08’ not so much in 2012. Just my opinion.

I think that Rudy was playing for Florida to be his firewall & he miscalculated.
Romney got sabotaged by McCain Spreading a lie about him one week before the Florida Primary & getting ganged up on by McCain & Huckabee.
I think that Romney still would have won the nomination, if it wasn’t for open primaries.

1131 gonecamping  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:58:45am

Have not ventured into the whole grain experience, but have read about it. The DW is short for ‘dear wife’

re: #1005 turn

Cool! DW? Hey, you into whole grain brewing yet?

1132 RickatLandstuhl  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:19:07am

re: #57 theheat
There ARE many wind farms, an single towers all over the place. In our village, there were 5-6, and new going up as we were leaving. Farmers sold the land required to the gov’t for the use of their lands, as well as the access to the towers.
Hell, I live in Colorado Springs, and would put one in my back yard if they’d let me….


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