And Now for Some Pat Metheny
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Pat Metheny with the Metropool Orchestra at the 2003 North Sea Jazz Festival:
(Hat tip: Noah.)
211 comments
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Racer X Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:47:29pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:47:38pm |
Apparently the Palestinian speaker who was invited to the school I work at was worse than I feared. One of our deans apparently almost lost it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:48:03pm |
Oh, and I'll have a coke and Jack too.
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rain of lead Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:48:37pm |
re: #7 SanFranciscoZionist
oh? in a good way. did he threaten to kick his ass
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jorline Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:49:37pm |
Two acoustic guitar pieces by Jose Feliciano
Believe it of not an interesting rendition of Michael Jackson's Billie Jean
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:49:44pm |
re: #10 rain of lead
oh? in a good way. did he threaten to kick his ass
It was a woman, so no, but apparently smoke was rolling out of his ears.
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Mich-again Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:51:14pm |
Giant brillo pad? Cotton candy? What is that thing on his head?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:51:15pm |
re: #12 SanFranciscoZionist
It was a woman, so no, but apparently smoke was rolling out of his ears.
Did the Pali's talking points get properly refuted?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:57:35pm |
re: #14 Dark_Falcon
Did the Pali's talking points get properly refuted?
No.
The gal was apparently invited by our religion department to speak. The consensus I've heard is that the nun who invited her did not realize what we were in for.
The dean only found out about how awful it was because some of the other administrators urged him to look in, knowing that the anti-American components of the talk, in particular, would make him go bananas. I think this was discussed by the admin, not in my presence.
I'm staying out. I'm a part-time employee in my first year. No one asked me, and I don't get the impression this woman is getting asked back.
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wily Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:58:36pm |
I love Pat. I wish his website didn't reveal him to be a wacko leftist.
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garycooper Wed, Feb 25, 2009 8:59:43pm |
I love music of all kinds, and I love interpretive renditions by acoustic artists most of all. Just sayin'...the time I spent at Pine Knob amphitheater in Clarkston, MI, with Pat Metheny about ten years ago, are several hours I'd pay to have back.
Geezus, that was a long night!
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Racer X Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:05:17pm |
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Racer X Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:08:24pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:13:17pm |
re: #22 Racer X
Finally!
This may pinch just a bit....
Ammo, beautiful ammo. Good for curing terrorists of whatever ails them. >:D
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karmic_inquisitor Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:20:05pm |
Goed!
Metropole Orkest.
Here is a bootleg of a number they did where they played Super Mario music.
They are a pretty cool pops orchestra.
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karmic_inquisitor Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:20:53pm |
re: #25 karmic_inquisitor
Goed!
Metropole Orkest.Here is a bootleg of a number they did where they played Super Mario music.
They are a pretty cool pops orchestra.
The link to the bootleg (pimf)!
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:22:31pm |
Charles - thanks a lot for that wonderful music!
and
re: #11 jorline
Hi joriline - interesting version of Billie Jean, but I loved Santana and Feliciano doing Oye Como Va -die bar of the the YouTube you put up of Billie Jean.
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rawmuse Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:27:17pm |
The Metropole is one of those fancy, state sponsored orchestras that you get to have when other people are taking care of all your defense needs.
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Yankee Division Son Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:27:30pm |
Totally groovy... my contribution:
Robin Trower - Bridge of sighs
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capitalist piglet Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:27:46pm |
I really like Pat Metheny, but I want to see a vid of Charles playing. Has that ever happened around here?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:28:23pm |
Gotta get to bed. I'm tired and my throat is still sore.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:28:46pm |
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Racer X Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:30:04pm |
re: #30 Yankee Division Son
Totally groovy... my contribution:
Robin Trower - Bridge of sighs
Thanks!
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Joo-LiZ Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:30:59pm |
What a fantastic beacon of government leadership.
The article is on the Canadian Minister of Immigration, Citizenship and Multiculturalism Jason Kenney vs Canadian Arab Federation topic.
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:31:46pm |
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Yankee Division Son Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:33:39pm |
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Racer X Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:33:48pm |
re: #16 MandyManners
Heh.
I just read the article of Pat Metheny trashing Kenny G. from the previous thread. Wow.
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:38:52pm |
re: #31 capitalist piglet
I thought I had a vid of Charles playing with Al Jarreau in London in 1984 but it's apparently been removed by the user on YouTube.
Not even sure if it was Charles, but I remember this white guy playing the ass off the guitar during the song.
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:40:04pm |
re: #39 Racer X
Hey Racer X - y'all got a link or was it in a comment and if so, do you have the comment number?
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:40:04pm |
re: #38 realwest
Hey Hoops! How are you tonight?
Just wonderful..Need to go to bed soon and save the world in 6 hours. (work)
But I'm reminded of this story.This last summer we went to this party out in the country..you know.. live bands..crazy people..lot's of fun..It was really cool..but late at night this old dude picked up a guitar and played a jazz version of somewhere over the rainbow and sang it unbelievable.. It was a classic moment..It floored the everyone listening..
I mean..he was playing the song in this real cool jazz style long before he sang..We were..what the hell?
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:42:50pm |
re: #42 HoosierHoops
Hmm - don't remember the guy's name? Well I know it wasn't this guy, but I'll be forever grateful to Charles for introducing it to me (well, I mean LGF!):
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
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Cheechako Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:43:33pm |
OT
Just heard on the radio that Obama's 2010 Budget (being issued tomorrow)
substantially reduces the funding for the Yucca Flats Nuclear Storage Site in Nevada. The site will not be able to open.
Payback to Harry?
Alternative energy sources? Nuclear power plants are out of the equation.
I am just sick and tired of all these damn lies!
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:44:52pm |
re: #43 wolfie
Hi Wolfie! Did ya by any chance listen to the music at the location I mentioned in my #27 - Jose and Carlos Santana?
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wolfie Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:45:49pm |
re: #46 realwest
I caught your suggestion and am headed there right after this other Feliciano song is over!
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:48:28pm |
re: #44 realwest
Hmm - don't remember the guy's name? Well I know it wasn't this guy, but I'll be forever grateful to Charles for introducing it to me (well, I mean LGF!):
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
LOL
Nope..I remember his name was Danny and he was so old he probably played golf with God on the the 7th day..That man could play..and he sang the song in this old gruff beautifully haunting voice...
I can hear his old voice now in my head..Somewhere..over the rainbow...
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SFGoth Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:49:31pm |
Pat Metheny is proof of intelligent design. ;-> Ok, well, intelligent aesthetic appreciation.
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:50:35pm |
re: #49 HoosierHoops
It's nice to have memories like that Hoops, it truly is.
But I still like the link I put up, too!
And don't EVEN ask me about the time I met B.B. King!
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wolfie Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:54:26pm |
re: #51 realwest
Wow! I'd never heard Santana & Feliciano together before. Nifty combination...great version of "Oye"......Now I'm listening to their "Black Magic Woman", sung by Jose in Spanish!
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:55:24pm |
WTF?
Man's penis injured in grinder accident
A man whose penis met an ill fate with a grinder in Brisbane's north this afternoon has been rushed to hospital.
It is understood the 23-year-old was working in Northgate when he was injured just after 2pm.
A Department of Emergency Services spokeswoman could not identify the type of grinder that had injured the man or detail how he came in contact with the device.
Although the extent of his injuries is not known, paramedics who treated the man at the scene were able to stem the bleeding.
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Sharmuta Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:55:40pm |
Study of fossils shows prehistoric fish had sex
Now that's change we can believe in!
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:57:37pm |
I see some of the Young Earth Jindalists (YEJs) are still at it in the volcano thread.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:59:29pm |
re: #48 Gus 802
Blue Moon - Stephane Grappelli
Oh my...I loved him. I was raised on Hot Club. (One of my older brothers is named after Django Reinhardt.)
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 9:59:44pm |
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:00:06pm |
re: #52 wolfie
Yeah, hey that was gonna be my next recommendation! LOL!
Saw Jose live in a relatively small venue about 20 years or so ago and that man REALY gets into his music - not just the great playing but he was rocking back and forth and stomping his foot so that I was afraid he'd fall off the stool he was on.
And it was just him - no other players. Just great!
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:01:15pm |
re: #56 capitalist piglet
Oh my...I loved him. I was raised on Hot Club. (One of my older brothers is named after Django Reinhardt.)
Really? That cool. Django? I forgot were I first picked up on them. Perhaps through Guitar Player magazine. I saw Stephan Grapelli around 1990.
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wolfie Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:03:40pm |
re: #58 realwest
He's something else. I got see to him a few years ago in San Juan. (I have a brother who lives there.) The atmosphere he generated was far more electric than anything I've experienced in ages. Made me feel downright sorry for big rock stars!
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BlueCanuck Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:05:19pm |
Evening all. Everyone chillaxing to the tunes?
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:05:45pm |
re: #60 wolfie Oh yeah - I've only seen him live 2 or 3 times but everytime was, as you put it, truly electric! Bounced out of those clubs just dancing my way to a cab (well, with my wife, I mean!).
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:05:47pm |
re: #61 realwest
Do y'all play guitar yourself?
Not for a long time. I used to play but never formed a band as it were. Was kind of proficient you can say. Blues, jazz-blues, my own fusion, rock, was learning more and more jazz theory. Mixed.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:07:40pm |
re: #63 realwest
Also had a nice rig which included a Paul Reed Smith. Had to sell it to move after my pad was bought out by some dirt bag real estate asshole.
/Sorry
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:08:32pm |
re: #62 BlueCanuck
Hey Blue - yes we are indeed! Thanks to Charles with his Pat Metheny and then with some help from others along the way! Y'all ought to try "Billie Jean" by Jose Feliciano at jorlines #11 - not in Pat's class, but a really good guitarist with an incredible energy level!
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:08:49pm |
re: #45 Cheechako
OT
Just heard on the radio that Obama's 2010 Budget (being issued tomorrow)
substantially reduces the funding for the Yucca Flats Nuclear Storage Site in Nevada. The site will not be able to open.Payback to Harry?
Alternative energy sources? Nuclear power plants are out of the equation.
I am just sick and tired of all these damn lies!
Late 70s - I attended a week long Pert/CPM workshop in La Jolla CA - one of the attendees, a very smart lady, was on the planing team for the Yucca Flats Nuclear Storage project. When she told us it was a 20+ year effort we were all stunned. And awed at her commitment.
Zer0 and his advisors are an embarrassment. They obviously do not understand engineering or basic physics.
Brrrrrrr.
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:10:43pm |
re: #65 Gus 802 Man I'm sorry to hear that.
I used to "play guitar" too but my proficiency was such that Guitar Player magazine cancelled my subsription!And I have no idea where someone coulda hear me, ah, playing! LOL!
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:10:55pm |
re: #53 NJDhockeyfan
A man comes home from work early one afternoon and sheepishly informs his wife that he's just been fired.
'What happened?' she asked with a look of concern on her face.
'Well...you see, I got suckered into a dare with one of the guys' he sheepishly began to explain.
'What kind of dare?' her concern was beginning to give way to impatience.
'uh...well....bascally, the guys dared me to go ahead and stick my crank in the pickle slicer.'
'And did you?'
'Yea....and just to make it even worse, that's just when the manager walks in.'
'I see....and what did they wind up doing with the pickle slicer?' the wife asked.
There was an awkward pause before he answered.
'well....They fired her too.'
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capitalist piglet Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:11:46pm |
re: #59 Gus 802
Really? That cool. Django? I forgot were I first picked up on them. Perhaps through Guitar Player magazine. I saw Stephan Grapelli around 1990.
My dad was a professional guitar player, and he loved Django. We were all raised on gypsy swing and jazz. It drove my brother nuts for most of his life.
I was given an unusual name too, but I wasn't named after anyone cool like Django, darn it! ; )
Where did you go see Stephane Grappelli?
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:13:07pm |
re: #68 realwest
Man I'm sorry to hear that.
I used to "play guitar" too but my proficiency was such that Guitar Player magazine cancelled my subsription!And I have no idea where someone coulda hear me, ah, playing! LOL!
Ha! Yeah. You have to read through a lot. Learn how to read music. Then practice, practice, practice. And when you're done practice some more. Once you get really good the next step is to leave the ego at the door but that's in the advanced music stage. Doh!
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:15:06pm |
re: #70 capitalist piglet
Some small club in San Francisco. My dad (still alive) was into swing too: Basie, Ellington, Miller, Goodman, etc. Both parents would listen to Tango once in a while which is kind of tied in with the Hot Club sound so to speak.
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:15:50pm |
re: #54 Sharmuta
Study of fossils shows prehistoric fish had sex
Now that's change we can believe in!
they obviously weren't married......
/white smoke
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Sharmuta Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:17:31pm |
re: #73 redc1c4
they obviously weren't married......
/white smoke
See! Damn science corrupting traditional values....
/blue smoke
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:18:00pm |
re: #30 Yankee Division Son
Totally groovy... my contribution:
Robin Trower - Bridge of sighs
much better...... real music.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:18:08pm |
OK, I know tying in tango with hot club is a stretch.
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:18:59pm |
re: #74 Sharmuta
See! Damn science corrupting traditional values....
/blue smoke
i was thinking more in line with the drop off in activity after marriage
"Why is the bride always smiling at the wedding?"
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capitalist piglet Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:21:37pm |
re: #76 Gus 802
OK, I know tying in tango with hot club is a stretch.
I think I know what you're saying, actually. I could see how that style would appeal to people who like Hot Club.
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:22:33pm |
re: #67 Bobibutu Hi Bobibutu! I remember a few years ago when some committee of scientists, after reviewing all availabe data, thought that Yucca Flats was THE best place to dispose of nuclear waste. And good ole Harry Reid put the kibbosh on that to make himself look good to his Nevada constituents.
The Democrats have never really been interested in the use of Nuclear power, even though France, France uses it to generate something over 70% of their nation's total electrical energy.
I'm all in favor of alternative forms of energy and agree from a national security viewpoint that we need to be energy independent but Obama and the Dems are only interested in (relatively) untested or loaded with practical problems alternative energy like Solar, windmill and other things. Well Wind power hasn't really shown that it can be used on anything resembling a wide-scale basis and the same with Solar (though we're closer with solar than anything except nuclear which has proven itself over and over and over again).
Obama and the Dems are just jerking us around when they talk about energy independence - if y'all listen to Obama when he talks about it, he NEVER mentions Nuclear Power.
Putz.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:22:48pm |
re: #74 Sharmuta
See! Damn science corrupting traditional values....
/blue smoke
Here's some science for u Shar ... and traditional values ....
Can You Explain This ?
Top 10……Poverty in Our Major Cities
City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit, MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo, NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland, OH 27.0%
5. Miami, FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis, MO 26.8%
7. El Paso, TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1%
10. Newark, NJ 24.2%
U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007
What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961;
Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;
Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984;
Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989;
Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;
St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949;
El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;
Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908;
Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952;
Newark, NJ (10th)...since 1907.
Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'
It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats---yet they are still ................... POOR
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:23:00pm |
re: #78 capitalist piglet
I think I know what you're saying, actually. I could see how that style would appeal to people who like Hot Club.
Yep, it's the French connection.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:23:41pm |
How about Lynrd Skynrd's homage to old bluesmen they knew growing up:
The Ballad of Curtis Loew
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capitalist piglet Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:24:24pm |
re: #70 capitalist piglet
My dad was a professional guitar player, and he loved Django. We were all raised on gypsy swing and jazz. It drove my brother nuts for most of his life.
My brother is very much alive, I should say. I make it sound here like he's already gone, when he's right in the prime of his life. I think he's even learned to live with his name and to be proud of it.
I should pay better attention when I'm yammering...or maybe quit yammering entirely.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:25:33pm |
re: #79 realwest
I don't think I ever heard him mention anything specific at all. So far it's been a song and dance show. Nuclear is a way to go including deep space disposal but I guess we have to wait now to pay off all of the mortgages that the geniuses got into by lying on their mortgage applications and the banks that have been ripping us off for decades and will continue to rip us off once the smoke clears.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:25:44pm |
re: #79 realwest
Hey Buddy - hope you are feeling well.
Check out: [Link: chizumatic.mee.nu...]
Especially the comments.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:27:10pm |
Think I won't pay my RENT next month. The landlord made it too easy for me to get this lease.
/S
Somebody call the gubernment!
Damn. Pisses me off.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:28:01pm |
re: #84 Gus 802
I don't think I ever heard him mention anything specific at all. So far it's been a song and dance show. Nuclear is a way to go including deep space disposal but I guess we have to wait now to pay off all of the mortgages that the geniuses got into by lying on their mortgage applications and the banks that have been ripping us off for decades and will continue to rip us off once the smoke clears.
Deep space disposal is not practical. The shielding necessary to protect the waste in the case of a launch failure is heavy, and you might as well just bury it in that shielding and save the launch cost.
The best place is in subduction zones, where, by the time the containers fail, it will be buried for millions of years. But that is banned by international treaty.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:28:54pm |
re: #80 Bobibutu
It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats---yet they are still ................... POOR
How about rank by state.....?
Mississippi
Louisiana
New Mexico
Alabama
Texas
Oklahoma
West Virginia
Arizona
South Carolina
Tennessee
Kentucky
How many of the poorest states have republican governors? Still want to stick to that theory?
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:29:06pm |
re: #87 Kosh's Shadow
Deep space disposal is not practical. The shielding necessary to protect the waste in the case of a launch failure is heavy, and you might as well just bury it in that shielding and save the launch cost.
The best place is in subduction zones, where, by the time the containers fail, it will be buried for millions of years. But that is banned by international treaty.
Roger. Was just throwing something out. That works and I always leave many things to the experts.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:30:19pm |
re: #88 Killgore Trout
How about rank by state.....?
Mississippi
Louisiana
New Mexico
Alabama
Texas
Oklahoma
West Virginia
Arizona
South Carolina
Tennessee
KentuckyHow many of the poorest states have republican governors? Still want to stick to that theory?
There's that reality again.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:30:45pm |
re: #90 Gus 802
It's a pesky thing, that reality.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:31:54pm |
re: #91 Killgore Trout
It's a pesky thing, that reality.
Yes indeed. It's like. Damn, palm to the forehead! What? You mean to tell me...
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Killian Bundy Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:32:56pm |
Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban
The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.
Wednesday Attorney General Eric Holder said that the Obama administration will seek to reinstitute the assault weapons ban which expired in 2004 during the Bush administration.
(AP Photos/ABC News Graphic )"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.
Ooh, does your rifle look scary?
/now who didn't see this one coming down Fifth Avenue?
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:33:16pm |
re: #91 Killgore Trout
But you also know how it is. We never question. We never fact check. We never send out corrections. Like I said this morning. Nothing's wrong. Yep, that's right, it's all THEIR fault.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:34:36pm |
re: #87 Kosh's Shadow
Deep space disposal is not practical. The shielding necessary to protect the waste in the case of a launch failure is heavy, and you might as well just bury it in that shielding and save the launch cost.
The best place is in subduction zones, where, by the time the containers fail, it will be buried for millions of years. But that is banned by international treaty.
When we finally get a space elevator working (it's getting close to possible now) - nudging it all towards the Sun seems to be the best solution. Yucca is still the best short term solution - engineering wise.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:34:57pm |
re: #94 Killian Bundy
Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban
Ooh, does your rifle look scary?
/now who didn't see this one coming down Fifth Avenue?
And how many crimes were committed with legal assault weapons?
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:35:36pm |
re: #79 realwest
Hi Bobibutu! I remember a few years ago when some committee of scientists, after reviewing all availabe data, thought that Yucca Flats was THE best place to dispose of nuclear waste. And good ole Harry Reid put the kibbosh on that to make himself look good to his Nevada constituents.
The Democrats have never really been interested in the use of Nuclear power, even though France, France uses it to generate something over 70% of their nation's total electrical energy.
I'm all in favor of alternative forms of energy and agree from a national security viewpoint that we need to be energy independent but Obama and the Dems are only interested in (relatively) untested or loaded with practical problems alternative energy like Solar, windmill and other things. Well Wind power hasn't really shown that it can be used on anything resembling a wide-scale basis and the same with Solar (though we're closer with solar than anything except nuclear which has proven itself over and over and over again).
Obama and the Dems are just jerking us around when they talk about energy independence - if y'all listen to Obama when he talks about it, he NEVER mentions Nuclear Power.
Putz.
some interesting commentary on alternative power, especially solar, here.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:37:41pm |
re: #88 Killgore Trout
How about rank by state.....?
Mississippi
Louisiana
New Mexico
Alabama
Texas
Oklahoma
West Virginia
Arizona
South Carolina
Tennessee
KentuckyHow many of the poorest states have republican governors? Still want to stick to that theory?
Ah - it's all statistical rhetoric. Designed for emotional zingers.
And your point is well taken.
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:38:26pm |
re: #94 Killian Bundy
Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban
Ooh, does your rifle look scary?
/now who didn't see this one coming down Fifth Avenue?
well, there aren't any one the shelves at the stores, so he's SOL on that one.
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:39:00pm |
re: #97 Gus 802
And how many crimes were committed with legal assault weapons?
we both know that's hardly the point.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:39:06pm |
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:39:24pm |
Two events come to mind when you mention nuclear in this context.
Three Mile Island
"China Syndrome"
Of course more people die from dehydration around the world. The number one cause of death for children the last time I looked was a form of dysentery.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:40:12pm |
re: #101 redc1c4
we both know that's hardly the point.
But that is one point. The answer was probably close to nil. In other words Holder is going after weapons that are not a factor in violent crimes.
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stevieray Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:40:38pm |
re: #88 Killgore Trout
I think most of those states have had Democrat governors within the last few decades... the point being that it is wise to try something new from time to time.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:41:06pm |
Did Jindal make up the magnetic rail line thing too?
After Lying About High-Speed Rail Line From Disneyland, Jindal Leaves For Disney World (Seriously)
Huffpo links to Media Matters and I'm too tired to fact check further. Oh, well. It's probably true anyways.
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:41:14pm |
re: #85 BobibutuLOL! Thanks for that one Bobibutu! I can't diagram anything relating to the use of nuclear power to generate electricity, but I do know that the FRENCH use it to generate over 70% of their electrical needs.
That says to me that anyone who wants to seriously discuss alternative energy (alternative to fossil fuel) who doesn't START with, much less mention Nuclear Power is an idiot or a politician (pardon the redundancy).
And Obama has made speeches where he HAS talked about energy Independence and talked about wind and solar and even geothermal but never ONCE mentioned Nuclear power - the single greatest WORKING source of alternative power that we know of, because Dingy Harry Reid doesn't want the disposal to be in Yucca Flats and the enviroweenies who support him also don't want us to pollute space by chucking the waste up there (assuming we could).
He's a politician. And he's a Dem politician, which means it'll take an oil embargo lasting YEARS before he'll even consider building nuclear reactors here.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:41:30pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:42:30pm |
G'nite, y'all.
/cats,book,bed
//zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:42:33pm |
re: #105 Gus 802
But that is one point. The answer was probably close to nil. In other words Holder is going after weapons that are not a factor in violent crimes.
but it makes them *feel* good, and besides, this group is seriously worried about the little people being able to tell them to FO, if it comes to that.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:42:34pm |
re: #103 Gus 802
Two events come to mind when you mention nuclear in this context.
Three Mile Island
"China Syndrome"Of course more people die from dehydration around the world. The number one cause of death for children the last time I looked was a form of dysentery.
The biggest health effect due to TMI was caused by the coal burned to replace its power.
And it is possible to make a reactor that shuts down if it loses coolant, just because the coolant is also the moderator. They built one in the late 50s or early 60s.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:44:06pm |
re: #105 Gus 802
But that is one point. The answer was probably close to nil. In other words Holder is going after weapons that are not a factor in violent crimes.
Holder was saying if we made assault weapons illegal, it would stop the Mexican drug gangs from getting them. Like those gangs to to legal gun dealers to get their weapons.
He's so funny he should be on SNL.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:44:31pm |
re: #105 Gus 802
These 'assault weapons' have been unbanned for four years now. Gotta wonder statistically how many crimes percentage-wise they factored in since then.
Holder and 0bama aren't stupid- they know this too, but it's a fairly safe target for them to go after like CEOs and so on....
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:45:05pm |
Gun hobbyists that collect automatic rifles, machine guns, etc. aren't the ones using guns in violent crimes. It's the small caliber weapons.re: #112 redc1c4
but it makes them *feel* good, and besides, this group is seriously worried about the little people being able to tell them to FO, if it comes to that.
Yep. It fits in with their cocktail hour conversation. "Oh those guns nuts with those machine guns." They could never identify the actual perps because it wouldn't be acceptable in their "polite" society.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:46:20pm |
re: #109 realwest
If we use USN engineering - proven and safe for 50+ years - for Nuclear design - vs questionable civilian - profit oriented designs - we'll be OK.
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:46:36pm |
Well it's been grand y'all but I gotta get some sleep, hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!
Good night, all.
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:46:36pm |
if i were a mfg of certain types of rifles, i'd put on 3 shifts a day, 7 days a week, turning out as many receivers as i could, so that i had as many as possible on hand.
that way, when these scumbags ramrod this new bullshit ban through, i'd have as many "pre-ban" weapons available to sell at the new prices they would command as possible.
i'd do the same with high capacity magazines too.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:46:59pm |
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:47:27pm |
re: #114 Kosh's Shadow
Holder was saying if we made assault weapons illegal, it would stop the Mexican drug gangs from getting them. Like those gangs to to legal gun dealers to get their weapons.
He's so funny he should be on SNL.
Amazing. Well, if I was a drug lord then I'd look for another dealer. If that's even true that they're getting American made assault weapons. What about the Uzi and the AK-47? Or even the other weapons in the black market already.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:47:38pm |
re: #114 Kosh's Shadow
Holder was saying if we made assault weapons illegal, it would stop the Mexican drug gangs from getting them. Like those gangs to to legal gun dealers to get their weapons.
He's so funny he should be on SNL.
He actually said that? How fucking stupid does he think we are?
HOW SECURE DO YOU THINK THOSE POLICE OR ARMY ARMORIES ARE SOUTH OF THE BORDER!? OR IS HOLDER TOO MUCH OF A 'COWARD' TO ANSWER!?
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:48:34pm |
If they got rid of all the guns they'd be stabbing each other like they're doing in the UK and Australia. The criminals that is.
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realwest Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:49:05pm |
re: #117 Bobibutu
Whoops, didn't see that post - why don't we just use the French designs? I mean France has been using them for a long time now and I don't recall ever reading or hearing about any problems with them, either.
Now to bed and sleep!
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:49:17pm |
re: #118 realwest
Rest well RW. Catch ya on the flip side.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:49:26pm |
re: #122 Fenway_Nation
He actually said that? How fucking stupid does he think we are?
HOW SECURE DO YOU THINK THOSE POLICE OR ARMY ARMORIES ARE SOUTH OF THE BORDER!? OR IS HOLDER TOO MUCH OF A 'COWARD' TO ANSWER!?
That's the way it sounded on the news radio station.
And he has a right to think we're (well, over 60% of the voters) are stupid; 0bama was elected, after all.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:50:42pm |
Goodnight lizards.
Don't let the 0 give you nightmares.
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:50:43pm |
re: #123 Gus 802
If they got rid of all the guns they'd be stabbing each other like they're doing in the UK and Australia. The criminals that is.
IIRC, gun crime is UP both places since the bans were emplaced.
besdies, the UN, unsurprisingly, is against the idea of weapons in the hands of anyone other than government authorities.
i can't imagine why............
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BlueCanuck Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:50:48pm |
Gah! I hate that whole "Get rid of nuclear waste by firing it here ------" argument. Who knows when we would find further use for all that waste. it is best to store it somewhere we can easily access it. Safe enough that it won't affect anyone works too. Anything else is just fear mongering.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:51:11pm |
Yeah. I'm a drug lord. Maybe in the hood. Maybe in Mexico. Think I'll order some guns through the legal route. Apply for an assault gun weapons permit.
///
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:51:20pm |
Hello Night Lizards! It was actually kinda nice in Near Iowa today.
I didn't involve myself in the news cycle at all today. What, if anything, happened?
How are you-all and what are we talking about?
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:51:44pm |
re: #128 Kosh's Shadow
Goodnight lizards.
Don't let the 0 give you nightmares.
Ear Leader *IS* a nightmare.......
weet dreams!
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:52:46pm |
re: #132 ggt
Hello Night Lizards! It was actually kinda nice in Near Iowa today.
I didn't involve myself in the news cycle at all today. What, if anything, happened?
How are you-all and what are we talking about?
well, i don't know about anything else, but the Dow, surprisingly, closed down again.
/white smoke
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:53:41pm |
re: #130 BlueCanuck
Gah! I hate that whole "Get rid of nuclear waste by firing it here ------" argument. Who knows when we would find further use for all that waste. it is best to store it somewhere we can easily access it. Safe enough that it won't affect anyone works too. Anything else is just fear mongering.
My fault.
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Wendya Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:54:01pm |
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:54:14pm |
re: #126 Kosh's Shadow
That's the way it sounded on the news radio station.
And he has a right to think we're (well, over 60% of the voters) are stupid; 0bama was elected, after all.
I saw this coming a few months ago when CBS did a story on the escalating narcoinsurgency in the border cities in Mexico. The police display some drugs and a belt-fed machine gun seized in a raid while the voiceover ominously intones 'Mexican authorities say the majority of the weapons came from the USA'....
/like I can go down to the motherfucking Apple Valley Gun Works and get myself a full-auto Negev no questions asked.
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Wendya Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:55:04pm |
re: #130 BlueCanuck
Gah! I hate that whole "Get rid of nuclear waste by firing it here ------" argument. Who knows when we would find further use for all that waste. it is best to store it somewhere we can easily access it. Safe enough that it won't affect anyone works too. Anything else is just fear mongering.
It may well be in the future that nuclear waste will be a viable, safe, fuel source.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:55:28pm |
re: #131 Gus 802
Yeah. I'm a drug lord. Maybe in the hood. Maybe in Mexico. Think I'll order some guns through the legal route. Apply for an assault gun weapons permit.
///
I'm sure the narcotraficantes also go through the niceities of a a waiting period as well....
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:56:23pm |
re: #138 Wendya
It may well be in the future that nuclear waste will be a viable, safe, fuel source.
in the meantime, we should store it in Washington DC.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:56:35pm |
re: #129 redc1c4
Something I thought was interesting. While watching the House Sub-committee hearing on something last week, my new congress critter, Mr. Foster, asked the rep from the GAO about "smart guns" for Afghani police. It seems they are having a heck of a time organizing themselves over there. There is a problem with gun theft as the country is very poor and the weapon issued to the newly minted police officer is often the most valuable thing he owns. Foster thought that implementing "smart gun" technology would eliminate the ability for the guns to be sold on the black market. (I won't pontificate on my thoughts on "smart guns".)
Anyway, the rep from the GAO said that, YES, indeed there was money in the budget for research into such technologies.
hmmm . . .
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:56:49pm |
re: #122 Fenway_Nation
He actually said that? How fucking stupid does he think we are?
HOW SECURE DO YOU THINK THOSE POLICE OR ARMY ARMORIES ARE SOUTH OF THE BORDER!? OR IS HOLDER TOO MUCH OF A 'COWARD' TO ANSWER!?
Heh - check out: [Link: www.vbs.tv...]
Want a gun? No problem.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:57:25pm |
re: #139 Fenway_Nation
I'm sure the narcotraficantes also go through the niceities of a a waiting period as well....
That would be like a skit on Mad TV. "Yes, my name Juan Narcotraficante, I would like to japply for je gun permit for big gun with multi round."
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stevieray Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:57:38pm |
re: #105 Gus 802
But that is one point. The answer was probably close to nil. In other words Holder is going after weapons that are not a factor in violent crimes.
But they look scary! And have scary names! The bad guys in the movies use them!
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 10:58:39pm |
re: #144 stevieray
But they look scary! And have scary names! The bad guys in the movies use them!
And they smoke cigarets too! Nooooo! Hide your honor roll children!
///
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NY Nana Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:01:43pm |
Drive-by on the way to sleep post...we were at our daughter and son in laws' to see the almost 2 1/2 year old toddler.
A Mummy and Daddy, Nana and Grampa cannot expend the energy 1 normal sized 2 year old can. It is impossible. And we cannot, and do not have to, as grandparents keep a straight face.....he can play his audience to perfection.
Holding him in my lap, in the rocking chair, while reading him 2 of his books (he gets 3 each night), and having him fall asleep on me? And NY Grampa got to read a book to him too. This transcends anything else in our lives, and somehow the worries about The One and what he is doing, and the effect on all of us, our kids, grandkids, etc. were lifted off our shoulders by his sweetness..and what it felt like to cuddle and fall asleep. We hated to leave!
I am off to sleep, and will sleep soundly, as will NY Grampa...this kind of exhaustion is the very best!
We all can only pray that somehow this snake oil salesman will somehow be impeached, and that we get our country back....and that the crap he is spewing will finally awaken those who were dumb enough to vote for The One...our kids, grandkids and coming generations depend on us to get this mess straightened out. And we are able to if we all work together, with the images of the little ones in our mind. We owe it to them.
G'night, all! Sweet dreams.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:02:35pm |
re: #138 Wendya
It may well be in the future that nuclear waste will be a viable, safe, fuel source.
Or we will finally develop a safe, cheap, gen engineered "bug" that will eat it all up - yum!
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:02:44pm |
re: #145 Gus 802
And they smoke cigarets too! Nooooo! Hide your honor roll children!
///
"If your child is an honor roll student, the hospital gave you the wrong baby."
/bumper sticker idea i've had for years.
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:04:28pm |
re: #147 Bobibutu
Or we will finally develop a safe, cheap, gen engineered "bug" that will eat it all up - yum!
i'm trying to imagine what the bug will break it down into?
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:05:10pm |
re: #149 Bobibutu
G'nite Nana - kids are great.
but so hard to cook properly, and what kind of wine do you serve with them?
/white smoke
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:05:20pm |
re: #148 redc1c4
"If your child is an honor roll student, the hospital gave you the wrong baby."
/bumper sticker idea i've had for years.
Honest I wasn't spying on you.
//
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:06:18pm |
re: #150 redc1c4
i'm trying to imagine what the bug will break it down into?
Don't know - but read something on this a few years ago. Ahhh - I'll Google for it since I opened my big mouth.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:06:24pm |
re: #150 redc1c4
i'm trying to imagine what the bug will break it down into?
That would take some serious nano-tech. Which we're all still waiting for of course.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:07:11pm |
re: #147 Bobibutu
Ye canna change the laws of physics captain. :)
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:08:11pm |
Let's see.....in the first 30 days, the 0bama administration sowed fear, uncertainty and dischord into an volatile market to pass an epic spending bill that rewards his lackeys while mortgaging our future, announced our upcoming capitulation in Iraq, left the door open for a bogus Stalin-esque 'Truth' commision to prosecute officials in the previous administration and rewarded deadbeats and deliquents who brought proterties they shouldn't have....
There's still the matter of throwing some of our allies under the bus, taking away our guns and the 'Fairness Doctoring Doctorine' and god knows what else he can fuck up in just the next 30 days.
Am I still supposed to 'give him a chance'?
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:08:29pm |
interesting ....
Scientists find bugs that eat waste and excrete oil
June 16th, 2008 %P% Published in Energy, Current Events, Science
From Engadget:
Like the beginning of every great science fiction movie, experts claim that they’ve discovered a cure for our fuel-dependency woes that only requires an army of genetically modified bacteria… that eat wheat straw and excrete crude oil. You read that right: scientists have created bugs which are able to snack on woodchips or sugar cane and produce waste in the form of easily malleable oil. Not only are the buggers capable of creating a byproduct which can quickly be refined into fuel for vehicles, but scientists say the process is carbon-negative — it outputs less carbon than is required to produce it. Director of the project — dubbed LS9 — Greg Pal says that barrel prices could run as low as $50, and that the company plans to have a commercial facility producing the crude in 2011.
It’s strange living in a world where you can’t discern fact from fiction.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:10:22pm |
re: #157 Bobibutu
Most science fiction evetually becomes science fact. We are only limited by our imaginations.
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:11:07pm |
re: #152 Gus 802
Honest I wasn't spying on you.
//
no one does: i walk around the house naked.
/you'll only look once! %-)
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:12:43pm |
re: #158 BlueCanuck
Most science fiction evetually becomes science fact. We are only limited by our imaginations.
In that case, where's my damn flying car!?
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:13:08pm |
re: #159 redc1c4
no one does: i walk around the house naked.
/you'll only look once! %-)
Gasp! No! Look away! It's like looking at your sister. Or brother.
//
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:13:25pm |
re: #158 BlueCanuck
Most science fiction evetually becomes science fact. We are only limited by our imaginations.
[Link: discovermagazine.com...]
How true - we (our mil) now has ray guns. ;-)
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:13:50pm |
Cheer up. They might be giving DC voting rights soon.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:15:49pm |
re: #160 Fenway_Nation
In that case, where's my damn flying car!?
I don't trust most of the popuace in a two dimensional space. Lord perish the thought of giving them an extra dimension to screw up in.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:15:52pm |
re: #163 Gus 802
Cheer up. They might be giving DC voting rights soon.
Well, they voted Marion Barry to multiple terms....what could possibly go wrong?
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:16:05pm |
re: #160 Fenway_Nation
In that case, where's my damn flying car!?
Invented in the 50s ... poor marketing and the ATC Union had objections.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:17:06pm |
re: #164 BlueCanuck
Look...everyone from The Jetsons to Blade Runner inferred we'd have flying cars by now....
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:17:30pm |
re: #161 Gus 802
Gasp! No! Look away! It's like looking at your sister. Or brother.
//
in my case both of them, duct taped together, size wise: i'm "fluffy".
/good food & good booze!
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:17:57pm |
re: #165 Fenway_Nation
Well, they voted Marion Barry to multiple terms....what could possibly go wrong?
Marion Barry? My God - lets give him a State!
/
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Wendya Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:18:17pm |
re: #140 redc1c4
in the meantime, we should store it in Washington DC.
I don't have a problem with that.
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:18:31pm |
re: #167 Fenway_Nation
Look...everyone from The Jetsons to Blade Runner inferred we'd have flying cars by now....
it'd certainly solve gridlock, and the Darwinian portion of it would certainly cull the herd effectively.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:18:42pm |
re: #167 Fenway_Nation
Oh we could. But like I said before...
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:19:17pm |
re: #170 Wendya
I don't have a problem with that.
i was waiting for a second on what seemed to me to be an inspired solution.
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gmsc Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:19:37pm |
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:19:58pm |
re: #165 Fenway_Nation
Well, they voted Marion Barry to multiple terms....what could possibly go wrong?
Right. What could go wrong. Also look at Philadelphia, Camden, Trenton, Chicago, New York, Baltimore, and DC. Yep, what could go wrong. What model cities.
'Elp!
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:20:07pm |
re: #172 BlueCanuck
Oh we could. But like I said before...
oh, come on! what could possibly go wrong with that?
%-)
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:20:46pm |
re: #165 Fenway_Nation
Well, they voted Marion Barry to multiple terms....what could possibly go wrong?
A friend of mine from the DC area was once called by her grandmother, who demanded of her "Do you know what your people have done?"
"Your people" was, apparently, the African-American population of DC, and what they had done was elect or reelect Mr. Barry. Why Grandma felt that she herself had nothing to do with this remains unclear. ;)
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:21:18pm |
re: #175 Gus 802
Right. What could go wrong. Also look at Philadelphia, Camden, Trenton, Chicago, New York, Baltimore, and DC. Yep, what could go wrong. What model cities.
'Elp!
You left out Detroit for some peculiar reason. Did they ever find a replacement for the illustrious Kwame Kilpatrick?
Honorable mentione: Oakland
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:21:58pm |
re: #179 Fenway_Nation
Oops. How could I forget Detroit and Oakland. And East LA.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:22:06pm |
re: #173 redc1c4
i was waiting for a second on what seemed to me to be an inspired solution.
"we" would vote for it ... but I don't think our Congress-critters would.
Time for torches and pitchforks?
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BlueCanuck Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:22:54pm |
re: #176 redc1c4
I am all for darwinian solutions, unfortunately the truly stupid and moronic tend to levy a lot of collateral damage. There's a reason why it's so hard to get a pilots liscence.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:24:24pm |
re: #180 Gus 802
Oops. How could I forget Detroit and Oakland. And East LA.
Google Your Black Muslim Bakery and/or Chauncey Bailey sometime. It's like Putin's Russia, Mugabe's Zimbabwe and a little bit of Somalia thrown in for good measure....
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:25:32pm |
re: #186 Fenway_Nation
Google Your Black Muslim Bakery and/or Chauncey Bailey sometime. It's like Putin's Russia, Mugabe's Zimbabwe and a little bit of Somalia thrown in for good measure....
I've been to Oakland before. Other than the art museum the rest of the place is what they used to call disgusting.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:25:46pm |
re: #183 BlueCanuck
There's a reason why it's so hard to get a pilots liscence.
One season in Alaska - summer x twice a day = good to go.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:26:48pm |
re: #180 Gus 802
Oops. How could I forget Detroit and Oakland. And East LA.
Uh, does this have anything to do with DC having representation?
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:26:49pm |
re: #175 Gus 802
Right. What could go wrong. Also look at Philadelphia, Camden, Trenton, Chicago, New York, Baltimore, and DC. Yep, what could go wrong. What model cities.
'Elp!
you don't understand: this time they're gonna get it right, just watch!
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:27:18pm |
re: #182 Gus 802
Syracuse, Albany...
I have family in the Albany area (not the city itself, but that little swath of upstate NY between the Hudson River and Massachusetts).
For all it's faults, seems a little unfair to lump Albany into the same category as D.C., Detroit, Oakland or New Orleans.
Holy shit!? How could I have forgotten the Big Queasy!?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:27:25pm |
re: #186 Fenway_Nation
Google Your Black Muslim Bakery and/or Chauncey Bailey sometime. It's like Putin's Russia, Mugabe's Zimbabwe and a little bit of Somalia thrown in for good measure....
Except that arrests were actually made.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:28:07pm |
re: #187 Gus 802
I've been to Oakland before. Other than the art museum the rest of the place is what they used to call disgusting.
Oh cut us some slack ... We have our problems but Oakland has much more to offer.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:28:13pm |
re: #191 SanFranciscoZionist
Uh, does this have anything to do with DC having representation?
Oh, nothing.
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:28:16pm |
re: #180 Gus 802
Oops. How could I forget Detroit and Oakland. And East LA.
East LA is Hispanic, and for the most part, part of Lost Angels itself, not a separate city.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:28:33pm |
re: #187 Gus 802
I've been to Oakland before. Other than the art museum the rest of the place is what they used to call disgusting.
I've worked in Oakland. Parts of it are lovely.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:29:11pm |
re: #192 redc1c4
you don't understand: this time they're gonna get it right, just watch!
I'm just going to say this bluntly, who the hell is 'they'?
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:29:12pm |
re: #181 Bobibutu
"we" would vote for it ... but I don't think our Congress-critters would.
Time for torches and pitchforks?
tell them the containers contain "bundled campaign donations"
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:29:49pm |
re: #193 Fenway_Nation
Yeah, OK, I was stretching things a bit with Albany perhaps. I was trying to associate a few cities. Not much work in Albany unless you apply for State work.
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:30:33pm |
re: #195 Bobibutu
Oh cut us some slack ... We have our problems but Oakland has much more to offer.
what, besides exits?
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:32:54pm |
I dug Jack London Square in Oakland- just set up shop in the Pizzareia Uno and watched all the trains chug by down the middle of the street.
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:32:57pm |
re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist
I've worked in Oakland. Parts of it are lovely.
Some parts are, I suppose, lovely but they're way overpriced like most anything in the East Bay. I don't know why but most of the Bay Area seems like it's on "Life Support."
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Gus Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:34:00pm |
You can't build anything there without having to pay an arm and a leg for schools, roads, and Hamas.
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redc1c4 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:37:58pm |
re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm just going to say this bluntly, who the hell is 'they'?
"they" are the type of voters that have consistently elected the long running type of local politicians that have run down all of the cities named.... no specific ethnic group meant or implied, if that was what you were getting at.
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coloradobuff Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:55:42am |
Pat Metheny has always been one of my favorites. One of my bandmates in our high school big band turned me on to him in 1978. The first time I saw him was on a PBS special shortly thereafter, and I've seen him at three different venues in the Denver area since. Minuano is one of my favorite pieces of his, too. Very nice indeed.
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Fat Tone Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:10:04am |
I was fortunate enough to be asked by Bruce Hornsby to come into the studio with Pat on Bruce's sessions for his record Hot House.
What a time that was....sitting amongst mmusicl giants and watching them work was quite humbling.
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ADAMD Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:06:31am |
I've always loved Pat's rant about Kenny G.
"...He, in one move, through his unbelievably pretentious and calloused musical decision to embark on this most cynical of musical paths, shit all over the graves of all the musicians past and present..."
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Caboose Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:11:37am |
Started listening to Metheny around the time of American Garage, those Airstreams on the front cover just had this appeal... I think I first heard him on a Continental Air flight back from Austin, TX. Only saw him live three times, once at Merriwether Post Pavilion and twice at Wolf Trap. Don't do the concert thing much any more, too expensive and generally not willing to put up with the hassle.
I also like the Canadian "PM", Brian Hughes. Check him out! (His first release, "Between Dusk & Dreaming" is his most Metheny-ish, but all of them are good on their own.)
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