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Good men make good rhinoceroses, unfortunately.

Eugène Ionesco

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1 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:24:42pm

Reposted from the previous thread:

gmsc's money tips #1:

Read The Richest Man in Babylon and apply what you learn. It's available here as a free download (PDF or text formats)! The link will also let you read it online or embed it on your website to share with others.

2 UncleSam  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:27:32pm

?

3 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:27:53pm

re: #2 UncleSam

?

!

4 Cognito  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:28:06pm

Hm. Trying out this new Safari.

It's pretty sweet, so far.

5 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:29:08pm

I have yet to have to be shot to death so some poachers can grind my horn up into powder for some middle-aged Taiwanese guy

6 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:29:54pm

I'm sick, I should go to bed...

7 mrshankly01  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:29:54pm

evening

8 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:30:09pm

re: #3 gmsc

!

~

9 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:30:17pm

re: #1 gmsc

Gimme the short and sweet version of it.

10 UncleSam  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:30:25pm

re: #3 gmsc

!

&?

11 Aloha girl  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:30:30pm

I find some links on the new Safari to not work so good.

12 dentate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:30:49pm

I won't even pretend to understand the rhinoceros thing, unless it is a RINO reference.

13 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:30:53pm

Is that Mr. Shanky or Mrs. Hanky?

14 Cognito  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:30:58pm

re: #11 Aloha girl

I find some links on the new Safari to not work so good.

Any particular one that I could try out?

15 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:31:30pm

Dentate -- it refers to a famous play.

16 mrshankly01  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:31:46pm

re: #13 mardukhai
mr.
hehe
old smiths song.

17 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:31:47pm

re: #9 Fenway_Nation

Gimme the short and sweet version of it.

OK, it's the best advice you'll ever read on money.

(Oh, and if you page through the book, several of the pages have their own short and sweet summaries of the advice on them.)

18 Aloha girl  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:31:56pm

Well, I have a hotmail account. None of the links would work from there.

19 dentate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:32:28pm

re: #4 Cognito

Hm. Trying out this new Safari.

It's pretty sweet, so far.

It is very fast. Not sure I like the way it orders the pages on the Top Sites though. LGF keeps coming out on the bottom somewhere, even though it is one of my most frequently visited sites.

20 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:32:35pm

re: #4 Cognito

Hm. Trying out this new Safari.

It's pretty sweet, so far.

and yet you downding the same old way...

21 mrshankly01  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:33:09pm

re: #19 dentate

conspiracy

22 Cognito  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:33:10pm

re: #12 dentate

I won't even pretend to understand the rhinoceros thing, unless it is a RINO reference.

Don't worry about it. Ionesco was an absurdist.

23 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:33:15pm

I'm sticking with Mozilla for now.

24 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:34:15pm

He was also extremely hard to follow and boring.

25 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:34:33pm

Da-Daism?

26 ggt  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:34:50pm

weet dreams all!

27 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:34:56pm
Good men make good rhinoceroses, unfortunately.

This is an intervention. Put the crack pipe down.

28 Cognito  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:35:08pm

re: #19 dentate

It is very fast. Not sure I like the way it orders the pages on the Top Sites though. LGF keeps coming out on the bottom somewhere, even though it is one of my most frequently visited sites.

Just grab it and drag it to where you want it to be.

29 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:35:11pm

re: #22 Cognito

Don't worry about it. Ionesco was an absurdist.

Heraclitus, however, was the obscurist!

/How bad do you have to be for other Ancient Greek philosophers to call you "the obscure one"?

30 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:35:21pm

No, dada was another silly school.

31 wiffersnapper  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:35:30pm

Rhinoceri!

32 Milty  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:35:31pm

For some reason, no one is saying anything about Chas Freeman, reportedly Obama's pick for NIC head. According to Caroline Glick, he is an out-and-out anti-Semite.

33 Cognito  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:35:45pm

re: #20 redc1c4

and yet you downding the same old way...

Congratulations.

34 Aloha girl  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:35:55pm

I like Mozilla, it always works with my hotmail account. Just to be clear, I also have a .mac email as well. And it always works, so...maybe...

35 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:36:27pm

But Heracleas was the last great Roman Emperor before the rise of the Mohammedans.

36 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:37:06pm

re: #32 Milty

I a gree with ms. Glick.

37 dentate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:37:21pm

re: #28 Cognito

Just grab it and drag it to where you want it to be.

I see. It is the iPhone thing. You click edit, and the little x's appear, then you can drag the icons around. But they don't wiggle like they do on the iPhone. :-(

38 Cognito  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:37:49pm

re: #37 dentate

I see. It is the iPhone thing. You click edit, and the little x's appear, then you can drag the icons around. But they don't wiggle like they do on the iPhone. :-(

Yep. It's neat.

39 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:37:58pm

By the way, before Maxwell Smart became Maxwell Smart, he was called "Glick"

40 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:38:12pm

Everybody who'd not here raise your hands...:)

41 mrshankly01  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:38:39pm

Anyone figure out how to log into LGF with a locked iPhone. All I get is eh? when I do it.

42 dentate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:38:44pm

re: #39 mardukhai

By the way, before Maxwell Smart became Maxwell Smart, he was called "Glick"

Glick and 99? Naaah.

43 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:39:04pm

Not too many, dusty, and I'm only partially here -- I'm sick and should be in bed.

44 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:39:30pm

re: #9 Fenway_Nation

Gimme the short and sweet version of it.

Inspired by Fenway's desire for a short and sweet money tip, try this:

gmsc's money tips #2:

Saving for Greatness
(Essay from a World Financial Group brochure)

Your savings, believe it or not, affect the way you stand, the way you walk, the tone of your voice -- in short, your physical well-being and self-confidence. A man without savings is always running. He must. He must take the first job offered, or nearly so. He sits nervously on life’s chairs because any small emergency throws him into the hands of others.

Without savings, a man must be too grateful. Gratitude is a fine thing in its place. But a constant state of gratitude is a horrible place in which to live. A man with savings can walk tall. He may appraise opportunities in a relaxed way, have time for judicious estimates and not be rushed by economic necessity.

A man with savings can afford to resign from his job if his principles so dictate -- and for this reason he will never need to do so. A man who can afford to quit is much more useful to his company and therefore more readily promoted. He can afford to give his company the benefit of his most candid judgments.

A man with savings can afford the wonderful privilege of being generous in family or neighborhood emergencies. He can take the level stare of any man ... friend, stranger or enemy. That ability shapes his personality and character.

The ability to save has nothing to do with the size of income. Many high-income people spend it all. They are on a treadmill, darting through life like minnows.

The dean of American bankers, J.P. Morgan, once advised a young broker: "Take waste out of your spending; you’ll drive the haste out of your life."

If you do not need money for college, a home or retirement, then save for self-confidence. The state of your savings does have a lot to do with how tall you walk.

45 dentate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:39:46pm

re: #39 mardukhai

By the way, before Maxwell Smart became Maxwell Smart, he was called "Glick"

Or should I say, "missed Glick by that much!"

46 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:39:49pm

re: #42 dentate

He was a supporting character on the Bill Dana Show. (You know, Jose Jimanez...)

47 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:40:11pm

re: #43 mardukhai

Not too many, dusty, and I'm only partially here -- I'm sick and should be in bed.

Flu, or?

48 stevieray  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:40:23pm

re: #44 gmsc

true

49 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:40:47pm

re: #12 dentate

I won't even pretend to understand the rhinoceros thing, unless it is a RINO reference.

I thinks it's a Dada thing.

50 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:40:59pm

re: #31 wiffersnapper

Rhinoceri!

but no RINOs!

51 dentate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:42:12pm

re: #49 theheat

I thinks it's a Dada thing.

As long as it's not Idi Amin Dada.

52 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:42:31pm

re: #43 mardukhai

Not too many, dusty, and I'm only partially here -- I'm sick and should be in bed.

remember! ethanol is a disinfectant...

53 Bob Dillon  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:43:14pm

The things we learn on LGF ...

Stewardesses' is the longest word
typed with only the left hand.

And 'lollipop' is the longest word typed
with your right hand.

(Bet you tried this out mentally, didn't you?)

No word in the English language rhymes with month , orange, silver, or purple.

'Dreamt' is the only English word that ends in the letters 'mt'.

(Are you doubting this?)

our eyes are always the same size from birth, but our nose and ears never stop growing.

The sentence: 'The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog'
uses every letter of the alphabet.

(Now, you KNOW you're going to try this out for accuracy, right?)

The words 'racecar,' 'kayak' and 'level' are the same whether they are read left to right or right to left (palindromes).

(Yep, I knew you were going to 'do' this one.)

There are only four words in the English language which end in 'dous': tremendous, horrendous, stupendous, and hazardous.

(You're not possibly doubting this, are you ?)

There are two words in the English language that have all five vowels in order: 'abstemious' and 'facetious.'

(Yes, admit it, you are going to say, a e i o u)

TYPEWRITER is the longest word that can be made using the letters only on one row of the keyboard.

(All you typists are going to test this out)

A cat has 32 muscles in each ear.

A goldfish has a memory span of three seconds .

(Some days that's about what my memory span is.)

A 'jiffy' is an actual unit of time for 1/100th of a second.

A shark is the only fish that can blink with both eyes.

A snail can sleep for three years.

(I know some people that could do this too.!)

Almonds are a member of the peach family.

An ostrich's eye is bigger than its brain.

(I know some people like that also . Actually I know A LOT of people like this!)

Babies are born without kneecaps.
They don't appear until the child reaches 2 to 6 years of age.

February 1865 is the only month in recorded history not to have a full moon.

In the last 4,000 years, no new animals have been domesticated.

If the population of China walked past you, 8 abreast, the line would never end because of the rate of reproduction.

Leonardo Da Vinci invented the scissors

Peanuts are one of the ingredients of dynamite!

Rubber bands last longer when refrigerated.

The average person's left hand does 56% of the typing.

The cruise liner, QE 2, moves only six inches for each gallon of diesel that it burns.

The microwave was invented after a researcher walked by a radar tube and a chocolate bar melted in his pocket.

(Good thing he did that.)

The winter of 1932 was so cold that Niagara Falls froze completely solid .

There are more chickens than people in the world..

Winston Churchill
was born in a ladies' room during a dance.

Women blink nearly twice as much as men.

Nancy holds the Guinness world record.

54 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:44:01pm

By the way, Don Adams' character was a hotel dick, full name Byron Glick

55 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:44:58pm

Who Knew?


1. To remove a bandage painlessly, Saturate the bandage with vodka. The stuff dissolves adhesive.

2. To clean the caulking around bathtubs and showers, Fill a trigger-spray bottle with vodka, spray the caulking, Let set five minutes and wash clean. The alcohol in the vodka kills mold and mildew.

3. To clean your eyeglasses, Simply wipe the lenses with a soft, Clean cloth dampened with vodka.
The alcohol in the vodka cleans the glass and kills germs.

4. Prolong the life of razors by filling a cup with vodka And letting your safety razor blade soak in the alcohol after shaving. The vodka disinfects the blade and prevents rusting.

5. Spray vodka on wine stains, Scrub with a brush, and then blot dry.

6. Using a cotton ball, apply vodka to your face. As an astringent to cleanse the skin and tighten pores.

7. Add a jigger of vodka to a 12-ounce bottle of shampoo. The alcohol cleanses the scalp, removes toxins from hair, And stimulates the growth of healthy hair.

8. Fill a sixteen-ounce trigger-spray bottle with vodka And spray bees or wasps to kill them.

9 Pour one-half cup vodka And one-half cup water into a Ziploc freezer bag And freeze for a slushy, refreshing ice pack for aches, Pain or black eyes.

10. Fill a clean, used mayonnaise jar With freshly packed lavender flowers, Fill the jar with vodka, seal the lid tightly And set in the sun for three days. Strain liquid through a coffee filter, Then apply the tincture to aches and pains.

11. To relieve a fever, use a wash cloth to rub vodka on your chest and back as a liniment.

12. To cure foot odor, Wash your feet with vodka.

13 Vodka will disinfect And alleviate a jellyfish sting.

14. Pour vodka over an area affected with poison ivy To remove the urushiol oil from your skin.

15. Swish a shot of vodka over an aching tooth. Allow your gums to absorb some of the alcohol to numb the pain.

...And silly me! I've only been drinking the stuff.

56 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:45:18pm

re: #51 dentate

WhadyaAmin?

57 mardukhai  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:46:17pm

Ethanol sounds right, but I've already taken the antibiotics...

58 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:47:09pm

re: #53 Bobibutu

Nancy holds the Guiness world record for what?

/don't leave us hanging like that.

59 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:47:18pm

re: #55 Dustyvet

Vodka and water mixed also kills mildew on leather.

But I usually just drink it.

60 dentate  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:47:32pm

re: #54 mardukhai

By the way, Don Adams' character was a hotel dick, full name Byron Glick

Dr. Smith!

61 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:48:31pm

re: #55 Dustyvet

you try wasting vodka at my house trying that stuff out and you'll never get near the end of the list...

nor the vodka supply, for that matter.

62 abaleh  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:49:11pm

shocker:

MUMBAI: The VoIP (Voice Over Internet Protocol) calls made by the 26/11 terrorists to their handlers have been traced to a serving colonel of the Pakistani army, investigations have revealed.

63 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:50:38pm

A Fairy Tale

One day, a long, long, time ago, there lived a woman who did not whine,
nag, or bitch.

But it was a long time ago, and it was just that one day.

The End

64 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:51:04pm

According to some people, only police should be allowed to carry guns.

65 Bob Dillon  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:51:34pm

re: #58 BlueCanuck

Nancy holds the Guiness world record for what?

/don't leave us hanging like that.

Da plane Da plane - Da blinkin' eyes.
/

66 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:51:34pm

re: #55 Dustyvet

Except for the ingestion stuff. Isopropyl alcohol should work just fine as vodka. Probably cheaper too.

67 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:51:49pm

re: #64 Fenway_Nation

According to some people, only police should be allowed to carry guns.

Address Not Found...:(

68 Bob Dillon  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:52:32pm

re: #63 Dustyvet

A Fairy Tale

One day, a long, long, time ago, there lived a woman who did not whine,
nag, or bitch.

But it was a long time ago, and it was just that one day.

The End

And in a universe far away ...

*ducks*

69 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:53:04pm

re: #62 abaleh

I'm only surprised that there weren't extra/lower-ranking handlers to serve as contacts between the Pakis and the Mumbai gunemen. You know- for the sake of plausable deniability...

70 mrshankly01  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:53:49pm

re: #69 Fenway_Nation

Can you get lower than a Colonel in the Pakistani Army.

71 theheat  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:54:34pm

re: #66 BlueCanuck

Except for the ingestion stuff. Isopropyl alcohol should work just fine as vodka. Probably cheaper too.

But which would you rather have on hand - vodka or non-drinkable alcohol?

72 Bob Dillon  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:55:26pm

[Link: www.vbs.tv...]

Gun control ? Ha!

73 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:55:40pm

14. Pour vodka over an area affected with poison ivy To remove the urushiol oil from your skin.

we used to use the practice decon kits the Army issued us for when we accidentally got into the poison oak at Camp Roberts and Ft. Hunter-Ligget.

IF you only got a little on you, and you recognize3d it in time, you were ok. it was good field expedient training. other times, you just couldn't fix stupid, like the knmow it all AD 2LT with the Ranger tab that spent the better part of two weeks showing his ass and riding ours, even though he was just supposed to be an "observer"...

i was in line for chow, and all they were handing out was chopped apple salad and 1 piece of bread. we hadn't had breakfast, cause the truck never showed up, and therefore we didn't get the lunch MRE either.

needless to say, i , and others were rather vocal. LT Dumbass was lying down on the ground under a tree, and remarked out loud that some NCO should take me in hand, as all i did was complain.

i replied that although i might not be much of a Soldier, and was dumb enough to think that i was entitled to at least meals and water, i was, however, smart enough to not lie down in a thick patch of poison oak.

he was taken to the TMC that night, and we never saw his dumb ass again.

74 mrshankly01  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:55:54pm

re: #71 theheat

There is non drinkable alcohol.

75 Bob Dillon  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:56:01pm

re: #71 theheat

But which would you rather have on hand - vodka or non-drinkable alcohol?

This is a serious question ?

76 gmsc  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:56:19pm

Here's Peter Schiff, speaking back in Nov. 2006, describing exactly what happened to our economy:

77 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:56:53pm

re: #71 theheat

But which would you rather have on hand - vodka or non-drinkable alcohol?

yes.

78 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:56:56pm

re: #67 Dustyvet

Burglars who forced their way into a secured Contra Costa County sheriff's lot ransacked several patrol cars and stole weapons inside, the Sheriff's Office said Tuesday.

Three Colt semi-automatic assault rifles and a Remington shotgun were taken from cars parked in the lot at 1900 Muir Road between Monday night and Tuesday morning, said sheriff's Capt. Daniel Terry.

The break-in is similar to one in mid-December at a California Highway Patrol field office lot a little more than a mile away, at 5001 Blum Road, during which CHP cruisers were broken into and rifles and ammunition were stolen.

From the link...

/seemed to work for me

79 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:57:12pm

SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2007

SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2007

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2007 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge> them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the Principal.
Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2007 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's Mom has affair with psychologist.

Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2007 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2007 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

80 stevieray  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:57:21pm

Nevermind the rhinos... beware the dik dik!

And with that, I bid y'all goodnight.

81 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:58:12pm

re: #78 Fenway_Nation

From the link...

/seemed to work for me

Thanks...:)

82 Phil.  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:58:15pm

I don't mean to sound like a broken record here but I still definitely think Jindal is currently the party's best candidate. I thought his speech was weak last night, but any concerns I had were dispelled when Jindal was on NBC the next morning talking specifically about policy.

I've seen Jindal on tv give countless interviews where he's a numbers geek and he comes across as very sharp. His speech was the first I had seen him give. I think it's clear he's the anti-Obama. He's great without a teleprompter and not good with one. Obama is excellent with a teleprompter but slips into countless "uhs" when not in front of one.

The question is: does America care more about style than substance now? At this very moment, I think the answer is unfortunately yes. But results are eventually going to matter and Obama is failing miserably when it comes to those (seen your 401K since his election?)

If 2012 is a debate of substance over style, Obama gets landslided. If the country still wants an empty suit and pretty words, it'll be 4 more years of creeping socialism.

83 Bob Dillon  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:58:35pm

re: #77 redc1c4

yes.

Shades of Boot Camp and other places.

Creativity rules.

see this:
[Link: www.vbs.tv...]

84 mrshankly01  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:59:27pm

re: #82 Phil.

creeping? i think it is sprinting.

85 stevieray  Wed, Feb 25, 2009 11:59:36pm

... and if you see a cow, kiss it.

86 gmsc  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:00:02am

re: #80 stevieray

Nevermind the rhinos... beware the dik dik!

And with that, I bid y'all goodnight.

Tell the blogger not only have I seen a dik-dik, I've eaten one!

(In shish-kabob form, in South Africa.)

87 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:02:20am

re: #75 Bobibutu

If you could only choose one...

88 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:03:05am

re: #73 redc1c4

Then there was my buddy that was immune to poison ivy. One master corporal pissed him off so we rolled naked in a patch then crawled into the pricks fartsack and did rolled through that. Found out after that the master corporal was highly allergic.

89 mrshankly01  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:04:44am

Night All.

90 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:05:24am

I always understood Rhinoceroses to be rather docile creatures. They may seek to fit in yet never live their lives with evil intentions.

91 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:09:24am

re: #90 Gus 802

They're a very formidable animal when they're pissed off or with their babies. On TV, I've seen them ram and roll a Land Rover. They're not a critter you'd poke with a stick for fun.

Kind of like those Messin' With Sasquatch commercials.

92 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:09:40am

Hi and bye. I love all of you lizards.

93 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:10:22am

re: #82 Phil.

Jindal is a Creationist moonbat and i, for one, will not support him, or vote for him, regardless of who he is running against.

write that down.

94 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:11:00am

re: #91 theheat

They're a very formidable animal when they're pissed off or with their babies. On TV, I've seen them ram and roll a Land Rover. They're not a critter you'd poke with a stick for fun.

Kind of like those Messin' With Sasquatch commercials.

someone messed with WAB on TV?

95 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:11:24am

re: #92 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hi and bye. I love all of you lizards.

hey cuddles!

96 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:11:57am

re: #93 redc1c4

Noted, and I second that motion. (I have an extra flame suit, if you need one.)

97 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:12:40am

rhinoceroses...men..."Absurd"

98 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:13:21am

re: #96 theheat

Noted, and I second that motion. (I have an extra flame suit, if you need one.)

not likely to get any flames here, and i can give as good as i get anywhere else. shall we split sectors of coverage?

99 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:13:24am

The Rhinoceros

100 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:13:38am

re: #87 theheat

If you could only choose one...

In my day we drank anything. ;-)

101 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:15:23am

re: #98 redc1c4

Sure, I'll take the tree to the right for a vantage point. You head around the other way, and we'll catch them in the middle.

102 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:16:08am

re: #100 Bobibutu

Something tells me there's some truth to that.

103 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:16:54am

re: #97 IslandLibertarian

rhinoceroses...men..."Absurd"

It's like mime but with a form of Toinettes.

104 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:17:40am

re: #90 Gus 802

I always understood Rhinoceroses to be rather docile creatures. They may seek to fit in yet never live their lives with evil intentions.

Fuck with a Rhino - ya get the horn.

Best to leave them alone.

105 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:17:45am

re: #103 Gus 802

It's like mime but with a form of Toinettes tourettes.

Oops.

106 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:18:33am

re: #105 Gus 802

But can all agree we effing hate mimes?

107 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:19:40am

re: #106 theheat

Yes, pretty much. I was harassed by one once. You know how those mimes are.

108 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:21:01am

re: #102 theheat

Something tells me there's some truth to that.

USN circa early 60s - I would bet it continues to this day and beyond.

The Ruskies drank the brake fluid from their jets ... really pissed off their commanders.

109 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:22:14am

re: #88 BlueCanuck

Then there was my buddy that was immune to poison ivy. One master corporal pissed him off so we rolled naked in a patch then crawled into the pricks fartsack and did rolled through that. Found out after that the master corporal was highly allergic.

i had a CO that came to us the year after the fiasco mentioned above. he was a *real* piece of w*rk. due to laxity, i had an opportunity to see some of his records, and he was on his last chance with us.

dumbass went back to home station while we were in the ARTEP lanes, and had everyone in charge covering for him, but somehow, magically, word got out where he was, and he got busted for it. the BC had left instructions for him to report whenever he showed up, but since i was at the CP, when he got there, he gave me a stack of freshly pressed BDU's. straight from the cleaners, and told me i was to bring one out every morning with chow. i told him that this wasn't the British Army, and that he didn't get a batman, but he ordered me to do it.

he went and got his ass chewing, and then went to the field. i went back to the CP, and grabbed a pair of NBC gloves, and after carefully opening a BDU set, carefully rubbed the juiciest poison oak leaves i could find on the crotch area and the underarms of it. i then carefully sealed it back up and delivered it as ordered the next morning.

he resigned his commission after AT.

110 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:22:35am

re: #108 Bobibutu

The Ruskies drank the brake fluid from their jets ... really pissed off their commanders.

You're not kidding? That's pretty... out there.

111 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:22:51am

The theme from this thread is a quote made by a founder of the Theater of the Absurd.

Bum bum bum to the theater of the absurd.

112 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:23:48am

re: #106 theheat

But can all agree we effing hate mimes?

isn't there a law against mime warfare?

113 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:24:25am

re: #110 theheat

You're not kidding? That's pretty... out there.

it was pure ethanol, by design.

114 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:24:30am

re: #108 Bobibutu

USN circa early 60s - I would bet it continues to this day and beyond.

The Ruskies drank the brake fluid from their jets ... really pissed off their commanders.

Ruskies and the rest of the Warsaw Pact? I used to work with a guy from Poland but he was under CCCP rules for a while. Those guys would drink anything to catch a buzz.

115 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:26:55am

re: #107 Gus 802

Along those lines, here's Charles Barkley playing basketball with Barney.

116 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:28:12am

re: #112 redc1c4

Not in the lower 48, that I know of.

117 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:29:00am

re: #115 theheat

Along those lines, here's Charles Barkley playing basketball with Barney.

No go on the video.

118 abaleh  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:30:00am

re: #108 Bobibutu

USN circa early 60s - I would bet it continues to this day and beyond.

The Ruskies drank the brake fluid from their jets ... really pissed off their commanders.

drunk russian soldier drives tank

119 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:30:31am

re: #88 BlueCanuck

Then there was my buddy that was immune to poison ivy. One master corporal pissed him off so we rolled naked in a patch then crawled into the pricks fartsack and did rolled through that. Found out after that the master corporal was highly allergic.

Interesting - I am also immune. And flaunted it in my teen years - much to the regret of my challengers.

My father (before siring me) went to a cook out - idiots put poison ivy on the fire - they all breathed the shit and suffered massively - as the story goes by my grandmother - hmmm ... anyone doing a blood study for their Ph.D ?

120 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:31:09am

re: #117 Gus 802

Poop. Worked for me. See if this works.

121 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:31:28am

re: #110 theheat

You're not kidding? That's pretty... out there.

Not kidding!

122 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:37:26am

re: #121 Bobibutu

Not kidding!

[Link: www.denbeste.nu...]

Soviet jets used alcohol in their deicers, and pretty much any time a jet went up, it would report that it had run into ice and had used its deicers. Then when the jet landed, the deicing fluid would be removed from the jet and consumed or sold. (Sometimes they didn't bother with the story, and just stole the stockpiles directly.)

The Soviets could, I suspect, have "denatured" these with small additions of something that would make the soldiers who drank it ill (as is the case with the "Denatured Alcohol" they sell in stores, which is not permanently harmful but which will make you horribly sick) but if they'd done that the result would have been huge numbers of sick servicemen, not a reduction in illicit use of these fluids.

123 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:37:29am

re: #108 Bobibutu

I remember one line from the book about the pilot that defected to Japan with the Mig 25. A group of people at one of their bases complained about the brake fluid situation and were told from higher up, Moscow, that if they wanted too, they would use cognac as brake fluid.

124 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:37:51am

re: #120 theheat

That works. WTF? That's funny.

I'm looking for some Ionesco plays and they're all in French and absurd. Looks like it's mostly about this couple fighting and then the woman goes into the bathroom and starts speaking like an alien. The French audience applauds while tilting their glasses of red upwards from their pinkies.

Cold war nihilist theater.

125 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:38:25am

re: #121 Bobibutu

Well, I suppose I can believe it. My brother hooked up with a tiny little gal from Siberia - just an itty bitty speck of a girl. Naturally, when she came to the states, she had a social group of some other Russian transplants that he met through her. So, he decided to throw a small social gathering, and they were all invited. Mind you, he was the only US native at his own party.

He called me after about a half hour into the party, whispering on the phone. I asked him what the heck was going on, and why was he whispering?

He said his four guests had already downed two gallons of vodka, and he hadn't heard a word of English for 20 minutes. He just wanted to hear the language again.

He said next time, he was going to ration the potato juice.

126 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:38:46am

re: #109 redc1c4

Why do orficers think that enlisted men are idiots?

127 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:39:08am

re: #123 BlueCanuck

I remember one line from the book about the pilot that defected to Japan with the Mig 25. A group of people at one of their bases complained about the brake fluid situation and were told from higher up, Moscow, that if they wanted too, they would use cognac as brake fluid.

too bad the 113 designers didn't feel the same way. %-(

128 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:40:36am

re: #123 BlueCanuck

I remember one line from the book about the pilot that defected to Japan with the Mig 25. A group of people at one of their bases complained about the brake fluid situation and were told from higher up, Moscow, that if they wanted too, they would use cognac as brake fluid.

Roger that ...

129 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:41:00am

yeah, mimes are creepy...

130 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:42:14am

re: #126 BlueCanuck

Why do orficers think that enlisted men are idiots?

because it's in the manual? %-)

"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."

Army Officer's Guide

/they always assumed the first part, and forgot the last parts

131 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:42:32am

re: #126 BlueCanuck

Why do orficers think that enlisted men are idiots?

Because they would occasionally question their orders.

132 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:42:38am

Something tells me that Ionesco bonded with his mother.

133 Dustyvet  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:42:46am

re: #126 BlueCanuck

Why do orficers think that enlisted men are idiots?

“Enlisted Men Bear Watching”, stems from the Army Officers Guide Circa 1880’s.

“Enlisted men are basically stupid. However, they are sly and crafty and bear watching at all times.”

134 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:43:40am

re: #124 Gus 802

Okay, here's a factoid I suppose you can file under Useless Talent #47: I was an art major. Yup, I know, hard to believe. But I've heard all the jokes, so I'm immune.

You have no idea how much of that kind of shit I sat through. And it really is just high society nihilistic crap. You nailed it.

135 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:45:22am

re: #134 theheat

Okay, here's a factoid I suppose you can file under Useless Talent #47: I was an art major. Yup, I know, hard to believe. But I've heard all the jokes, so I'm immune.

You have no idea how much of that kind of shit I sat through. And it really is just high society nihilistic crap. You nailed it.

I know. I actually "sat through" it in my own experience with puppet shows, and acting class. Basically all I saw was a "high form" of saying nothing.

136 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:46:44am

re: #126 BlueCanuck

Why do orficers think that enlisted men are idiots?

BTW: i had some CO's & SNCO's that, if they gave me a mission or an order, and i smiled about it or looked enthused, they would call me back and question me at length to figure out what they had screwed up, or what they had overlooked that i was going to take advantage of...

137 Kragar  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:47:26am

re: #133 Dustyvet

“Enlisted Men Bear Watching”, stems from the Army Officers Guide Circa 1880’s.

“Enlisted men are basically stupid. However, they are sly and crafty and bear watching at all times.”

The thing I always remember was out of 6 officers in my grunt Company, 4 of them had degrees in PE. I knew if we ever got stuck in a vicious game of volleyball, we were covered.

138 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:47:37am

re: #135 Gus 802

There's something very Yoko Ono about it. Blech.

139 Kragar  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:48:18am

re: #136 redc1c4

BTW: i had some CO's & SNCO's that, if they gave me a mission or an order, and i smiled about it or looked enthused, they would call me back and question me at length to figure out what they had screwed up, or what they had overlooked that i was going to take advantage of...

Comm Bn, we had people designated to keep the officers busy so we could work.

140 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:49:32am

re: #138 theheat

There's something very Yoko Ono about it. Blech.

Or worse. Sometimes I see it as a form of self inflicted torment. There's something sinister about it that I never liked. Almost like a living form of purgatory. Which is something I don't actually believe in.

141 Gus  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:50:44am

Well, I better go to sleep. Good night folks.

142 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:51:15am

re: #141 Gus 802

Good night.

143 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:52:11am

re: #141 Gus 802

Nite Dude - sleep well.

144 Dustyvet  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:54:19am

re: #137 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

The thing I always remember was out of 6 officers in my grunt Company, 4 of them had degrees in PE. I knew if we ever got stuck in a vicious game of volleyball, we were covered.

I once served in a unit, where that quote hung on the wall of the CO, the XO, and the 1st Shirt. We our CO transfered out, the 1st shirt took great pleasure in ripping them off the wall and destroying them frames and all. The outgoing CO was a "Ring Knocker" of the first order, and hated enlisted folk.

145 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:54:47am

re: #136 redc1c4

Something tells me you did that a lot just to keep them on their toes. Even for grins and giggles.

/paranoia is a wonderful thing. Especially if you inspire it in others.

146 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:55:09am

well, i just popped rat #3 tonight. 3/4 overall, and i have to hit it too.

i got home after my 6 element, and we didn't play musical cars, so i have to get up when she leaves to let her out.

147 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:57:17am

Damn - 1 am ... gotta go down.

Ta all.

148 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:57:24am

re: #146 redc1c4

Musical cars: a great game played in countless driveways across the nation every morning.

Good night.

149 gmsc  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:59:02am

gmsc's money tips #3:

Back in the mid-1950s, the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation underwrote three Warner Bros. cartoons in order to educate the American public about financial responsibility. Warner Bros. managed to keep these three cartoon shorts both entertaining and educational.

They should be required viewing for anyone who wants to be solidly grounded in financial basics. The 3 cartoons, with links to where they can be seen on the web, are:
By Word of Mouse (1954)
Heir-Conditioned (1955)
Yankee Dood It (1956)

150 gmsc  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:59:11am

re: #141 Gus 802

Well, I better go to sleep. Good night folks.

Good night!

151 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:59:19am

One more ...

Report: Russian Navy officials suspected in arms smuggling

Europe News

Monsterandcritics.com
Feb 25, 2009, 11:08 GMT

Moscow - Russia's chief military prosecutor said Wednesday several top Navy officials were under investigation for smuggling 18 million dollars in contraband weapons for sale to China, Russian news agencies reported.

Arms dealers smuggled anti-submarine rockets and aerial bombs out of Russia to Central Asia where they were to be sold to China, army prosecutor Sergei Fridinsky said.

'A few days ago we submitted evidence to open a criminal investigation against several Navy officials and businessmen, who illegally smuggled into Tajikistan 18 million dollars' worth of weapons, including 30 anti-submarine rockets and 200 aerial bombs for sale to China,' Fridinsky was quoted by news agency Interfax as saying.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, both the West and the Kremlin have worried over the proliferation of weapons possibly being smuggled out of Russia's vast and poorly-guarded depots.

152 Kragar  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:00:33am

re: #144 Dustyvet

I once served in a unit, where that quote hung on the wall of the CO, the XO, and the 1st Shirt. We our CO transfered out, the 1st shirt took great pleasure in ripping them off the wall and destroying them frames and all. The outgoing CO was a "Ring Knocker" of the first order, and hated enlisted folk.

Worst officer I ever had was prior enlisted who apparently was a worthless shit. Got a degree in psychology, came back with a chip on his shoulder and basically wanted to get even with enlisted. He lasted one float and got passed over for 1st Lt and let go. I consider it a great honor I got to bust his nose in Oki.

153 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:01:55am

Gold tap-dancing around $950 this morning...

154 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:01:59am

re: #144 Dustyvet

I once served in a unit, where that quote hung on the wall of the CO, the XO, and the 1st Shirt. We our CO transfered out, the 1st shirt took great pleasure in ripping them off the wall and destroying them frames and all. The outgoing CO was a "Ring Knocker" of the first order, and hated enlisted folk.

i was the *only* civilian employee at the LA AFB clinic pharmacy many moons ago. i came on board just after a brand new 2LT, straight from U of Wyoming Pharm School took over command, transitioning from a grizzled Cpt. at the first meeting where the Cpt was no longer around to dapen his enthusiasm, he spouted out "I'm in charge here. this is my pharmacy."

since i was Cav at the time, and never one prone to suffering fools, gladly or otherwise, i piped up with, "i'm sorry sir, but this is Sgt L's pharmacy: officers just go to meetings and sign for stuff: NCO's run the military..."

we never did get along during the 6 months i was there, but now retired MSG L and i are still good friends. 2LT went back to Wyoming. %-)

155 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:02:33am

re: #152 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

You popped him one ?

156 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:03:46am

re: #151 Bobibutu

One more ...

Report: Russian Navy officials suspected in arms smuggling

Europe News

Monsterandcritics.com
Feb 25, 2009, 11:08 GMT

Moscow - Russia's chief military prosecutor said Wednesday several top Navy officials were under investigation for smuggling 18 million dollars in contraband weapons for sale to China, Russian news agencies reported.

Arms dealers smuggled anti-submarine rockets and aerial bombs out of Russia to Central Asia where they were to be sold to China, army prosecutor Sergei Fridinsky said.

'A few days ago we submitted evidence to open a criminal investigation against several Navy officials and businessmen, who illegally smuggled into Tajikistan 18 million dollars' worth of weapons, including 30 anti-submarine rockets and 200 aerial bombs for sale to China,' Fridinsky was quoted by news agency Interfax as saying.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, both the West and the Kremlin have worried over the proliferation of weapons possibly being smuggled out of Russia's vast and poorly-guarded depots.

the only saving grace is that many, but not all, are poorly designed and manufactured. it's safe to say they are all poorly stored and maintained.

157 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:06:42am

re: #156 redc1c4

RGR - I wonder if Zer0 is betting on that.

158 Dustyvet  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:09:37am

A little early morning Road Runner


Enjoy...:)

159 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:10:57am

re: #149 gmsc

The second one with Sylvester was my favorite.

Could Congress possibly be forced to watch these?

160 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:12:10am

re: #157 Bobibutu

RGR - I wonder if Zer0 is betting on that.

no: i'm guessing his plan is to put us in the worst possible position, then capitulate, because we were in a bad position.

i'm waiting to see just how far he cuts the DOD budget, but i predict it's gonna be ugly. the only thing that will save some weapon systems is that Congress critters want the money in their districts... i foresee another "draw down".

/we're fucked.

161 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:13:09am

re: #159 theheat

The second one with Sylvester was my favorite.

Could Congress possibly be forced to watch learn from these?

FTFY!

162 Dustyvet  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:14:28am

re: #160 redc1c4

no: i'm guessing his plan is to put us in the worst possible position, then capitulate, because we were in a bad position.

i'm waiting to see just how far he cuts the DOD budget, but i predict it's gonna be ugly. the only thing that will save some weapon systems is that Congress critters want the money in their districts... i foresee another "draw down".

/we're fucked.

I suspect that Veterans Health Care is going to take a major hit as well.

163 gmsc  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:15:32am

re: #159 theheat

The second one with Sylvester was my favorite.

Could Congress possibly be forced to watch these?

Forced to watch these? Maybe.

re: #161 redc1c4

re: #159 theheat

The second one with Sylvester was my favorite.

Could Congress possibly be forced to watch learn from these?

FTFY!

Congress? Learn? I doubt it.

164 Kragar  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:16:00am

re: #155 Bobibutu

You popped him one ?

Hand to hand training our last month there. Orders were that no courses were supposed to be held with a qualified instructor present, but he wanted to run the training anyways and chose me as his partner. He started to cross the line as we were working on how to break out of holds, hitting way too hard. He grabbed me by my shirt and asked what I would do in a combat, so instead of doing the prescribed arm bar across the elbow, I threw up my arms and lunged in and got him with a nice head butt across the nose. Next thing I knew, we had about 6 NCOs on us.

For about an hour, I figured my career was over, not knowing they had already told him his career was over. He was reading me the riot act when my 1st Sgt walked in and asked, "Who was the instructor supervising the training?" and the office got real real quiet. I got off with 1 month of Mess Duty and promoted to Corporal the month after, he got cut loose.

Training accidents, got to love them.

165 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:16:27am

and with that i *am* going to bed... tell LoL i said hi, and that i hope she enjoys the brake fluid fruitcup!

and yes Blue, i can tell the difference between the decoy and the secret stash.

(not to mention the secret, secret fall back stash that red doesn't know about. %-)

hasta y'all...

L8r!

166 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:17:36am

re: #160 redc1c4

DoDBuzz.com
February 24, 2009

Obama Pledges “Cold War” Weapons Cuts and More Pay

By Colin Clark

President Barack Obama set the stage Tuesday night for serious and long term cuts to major weapon systems, saying he would “reform our defense budget so that we’re not paying for Cold War-era weapons systems we don’t use” at the same time that he pledged to increase the military’s pay and veterans’ benefits. “And to keep our sacred trust with those who serve, we will raise their pay, and give our veterans the expanded health care and benefits that they have earned,” he said to loud applause.

Obama also told the packed House chamber that he would include the full price of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in his budget, due out next week. “Finally, because we’re also suffering from a deficit of trust, I am committed to restoring a sense of honesty and accountability to our budget. That is why this budget looks ahead ten years and accounts for spending that was left out under the old rules – and for the first time, that includes the full cost of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. For seven years, we have been a nation at war. No longer will we hide its price.”

All this would seem to force the services and OSD to choose between reset and new weapons, between future capabilities and what is needed today. Combine his statements with the commitments by Senate defense leaders to trim acquisition costs and improve how the nation buys its weapons and we seem to have a fundamentally different direction for the defense industry and the services. It may not mean deep cuts to many programs or much difference in the topline but it certainly seems to portend major changes to FCS, the F-22 and the presidential helicopter — at least.

As Obama said early in his speech: “This is America. We don’t do what’s easy. We do what’s necessary.”

167 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:18:55am

re: #163 gmsc

Congress? Learn? I doubt it.

You got me there.

168 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:19:56am

Night red. And as per a few requests, make that scores, your enhancements have been allowed to stand. Just to make the next four years bearable.

169 Dustyvet  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:20:04am

re: #167 theheat

You got me there.

"We have the finest Congress that money can buy."


Mark Twain

170 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:20:29am

re: #164 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Gotta love it -yea.

171 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:21:19am

re: #165 redc1c4

G'night. No, really!

172 redc1c4  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:21:36am

re: #166 Bobibutu

(obscenity laden, account losing diatribe goes here)

why did they bother having him take the oath?

173 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:22:42am

re: #172 redc1c4

(obscenity laden, account losing diatribe goes here)

why did they bother having him take the oath?

Search me.

174 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:24:21am

I gotta go down ... nite all

175 Dustyvet  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:25:48am

US complains about China's human rights record

Piss off your creditor...brillant..!


[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

176 Dustyvet  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:26:47am

We have seen the enemy and it is us

177 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:29:17am

re: #176 Dustyvet

Just the other day they said the economic downturn, recession - whatever you call it - has caused 20 million Chinese to lose their jobs. (The kinds of numbers Pelosi makes up, but these are real.)

178 freetoken  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:41:40am

Well, I'm trying out Safari 4 beta... I think I'll uninstall this one.

While the speed of the Java code is faster, and when increasing font size a web page's menus no longer get messed up, I'm finding lots of little gotcha's that are either slowing me down, or just mess up pages.

Anyone else feel the same?

179 gmsc  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:41:56am

re: #177 theheat

Just the other day they said the economic downturn, recession - whatever you call it - has caused 20 million Chinese to lose their jobs. (The kinds of numbers Pelosi makes up, but these are real.)

Of course, that's less than 2% of their population, but still...

180 rightside  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:49:15am

Morning Lizards.

Still laughing at the onion thread!

Humor is needed more and more now, when I think of the ugly turn our country has taken.

181 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:56:26am

re: #179 gmsc

Dead right it's a tiny fraction of their population, but what amazed me was thinking there were 20 million people depending on some type of labor/technology to provide the US with goods and services. Like, the US couldn't find - say - 10 million more jobs here at home useful?

It's hard when another country is so up in your ass they basically own you, and you can't make so much as a peep without pissing them off.

182 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:56:54am
183 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 1:58:14am
184 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:00:20am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

185 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:00:41am

re: #183 ploome hineni

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop learning Chinese.

/Airplane

186 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:01:03am
187 gmsc  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:01:45am

re: #184 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Thanks! Is it still free?
;)

188 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:02:06am

re: #183 ploome hineni

ploomie! :-)

Bwahahaha!

The thing to worry about is the Chinese not buying our NEW debt (and the projected debt of the next couple of weeks.)

189 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:02:12am

re: #182 ploome hineni

Only if Carter is available to oversee the process and make sure there was no cheating.

190 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:02:18am
191 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:02:25am

Good morning littleoldlady. Thanks for your diligent fruitcup.

192 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:03:09am

gmsc! :-)

Of course it's free!

/part of the littleoldlady Robin Hood Stimulus Package
//

193 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:03:34am

BlueCanuck! :-)

194 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:03:47am
195 Sharmuta  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:03:59am

re: #184 littleoldlady

Thanks!

196 gmsc  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:04:40am

re: #190 ploome hineni

/don't worry, be happy

197 gmsc  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:05:53am

re: #192 littleoldlady

gmsc! :-)

Of course it's free!

/part of the littleoldlady Robin Hood Stimulus Package
//

I prefer the littleoldlady name better.

I'd rather not see fruitcup associated with one of literature's great villains.

198 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:05:53am

re: #190 ploome hineni

It's going to be hell on all those ATM machines.

"English, Spanish, or Chinese?"

199 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:06:43am

re: #194 ploome hineni

We will have to print more money.

/how do you spell I-N-F-L-A-T-I-O-N?

200 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:06:51am
201 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:07:10am

Sharmuta! :-)

202 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:07:16am
203 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:08:17am
204 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:08:59am
205 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:09:05am

re: #200 ploome hineni

Damn, I guess you're more ready than I.

I'm bilingual, but I only speak English and profanity.

206 rightside  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:09:37am

lol!

did you get your printer working?

207 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:10:59am

re: #205 theheat

I used to speak fluent drunkenese at one point. ;)

208 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:11:06am

re: #197 gmsc

That's not fair! King John robbed from the poor to give to the rich. Robin Hood just reversed the process.

;-)

209 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:11:58am

rightside! :-)

It still only prints one page at a time.

/then I get an alert and I have to reboot.
//grrr!

210 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:12:38am

re: #207 BlueCanuck

I'm feeling like the weakest link, with the multilinguals here.

If you add Peking-ese to drunkenese, your onto something ;-)

211 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:12:45am
212 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:12:48am

re: #203 ploome hineni

why will we have toprint more money, if the Chinese do not buy our debt

what if we stopped buying Chinese

...?

Who stopped buying? WalMart?

213 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:13:30am
214 gmsc  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:13:38am

re: #208 littleoldlady

That's not fair! King John robbed from the poor to give to the rich. Robin Hood just reversed the process.

;-)

OK, so he was a villain with a different style than King John.
;)

215 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:13:50am

re: #204 ploome hineni

Nice chatting. Good night.

216 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:14:25am
217 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:15:04am
218 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:15:45am

re: #212 littleoldlady

I'd love to buy stuff made here. But unless we can circumvent the unions, I'll be paying $60 for a $10 coffee bean grinder.

219 Crux Australis  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:17:32am

re: #181 theheat

That's bad news for Australia. If China slows down and reduces it's purchases of Australia's natural resources Australians lose their jobs and the nation goes (further) into deficit.

China has got both the US and Australia by the leash for totally different reasons.

220 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:19:21am

re: #216 ploome hineni

The point is, our government doesn't buy from the Chinese - our retailers/distributors do.

Would our government pull a protectionist (tariffs, etc) thing against the Chinese? NOTHING would surprise me from the Obama administration. But then, the Chinese COULD call in our loans.

/...and then we'd have to print money
//it's a wicious cycle! ;-)

221 rightside  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:19:30am

So how about this idea? If we are using our money to bailout mortgages, then I think those people must be made to allow people to use their homes as a hotel if they need lodging. At no charge of course. We are paying for it, we get to use it if needed.

222 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:19:45am
223 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:19:48am

re: #219 Crux Australis

What are Australia's major exports to China?

224 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:20:50am

The biggest problem is that the North American economy has been slowly shifting to a service economy rather than a manufacturing one. This process has been moving that way since the mid 80's at the latest. It is unfortunate that a lot of our manufacturing is been done in China, and we can only blame ourselves for this. Unions that demand high wages, enviroment groups that try to stop and hinder building of factories or power plants, governments that restrict and bind companies with red tape. As it has been said before, we are our own worst enemies.

225 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:21:08am
226 gmsc  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:22:58am

re: #224 BlueCanuck

The biggest problem is that the North American economy has been slowly shifting to a service economy rather than a manufacturing one. This process has been moving that way since the mid 80's at the latest. It is unfortunate that a lot of our manufacturing is been done in China, and we can only blame ourselves for this. Unions that demand high wages, enviroment groups that try to stop and hinder building of factories or power plants, governments that restrict and bind companies with red tape. As it has been said before, we are our own worst enemies.

"We have met the enemy, and he is us!"
-Pogo

227 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:23:53am

re: #222 ploome hineni

Uh uh. You've seen the inside of my house? I swear, I'll get those clean clothes off the couch!

Actually, I can't think of the last thing I bought from China. It may very well have been a coffee bean grinder. Regardless, union costs need to be controlled so people have affordable alternatives to buying imported plastic crap from China. I'd pay more, naturally, but not six times as much.

228 Hengineer  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:25:57am

Word

229 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:27:10am
230 gmsc  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:27:59am

re: #180 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Still laughing at the onion thread!

Humor is needed more and more now, when I think of the ugly turn our country has taken.

Humor coming right up:

231 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:29:03am

Hengineer! :-)

Thesaurus!

232 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:36:01am

re: #231 littleoldlady

Hengineer! :-)

Thesaurus!

Gesheundeit

233 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:37:12am

Fenway! :-)

234 rightside  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:38:06am

re: #230 gmsc


Thanks, but can't view that kind of thing at work.

235 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:38:21am

Morning LoL...how's the fruitcuppin'?

236 Crux Australis  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:41:02am

re: #223 theheat

What are Australia's major exports to China?

Iron Ore, Copper, Manganese, Bauxite (Alumina), other minerals, coal, wool, wheat, sugar.

237 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:44:07am
238 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:53:24am

re: #236 Crux Australis

I could see the wheat, sugar, and wool - but wasn't aware the other things were exported in such quantities to China to impact your economy.

239 gmsc  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:59:18am

Good night, all! I need to sleep.

240 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:59:46am

re: #238 theheat

I believe the west sells raw materials to China and in exchange we get their manufactured goods. I know North America has a large resource base of metals of all types that they need as well.

241 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 2:59:57am

night gmsc.

242 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:00:41am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

I'm trying to find a chart to illustrate the amount of money printed in the past couple of years, but no luck. :-(

243 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:06:53am

re: #236 Crux Australis

Didn't ChinAlco- PRC China's aluminum company- buy a huge stake in Rio Tinto mining last month?

re: #238 theheat

I knew about the minerals only because of the World's Longest Train being run from the mines to the ports in the really barren and sandblasted expanses of Western Australia.

244 littleoldlady  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:08:09am

I'd be better off getting to work. :-/

Good day, ALL!™

245 freetoken  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:08:23am

Repeating my post from near the top...

Anybody else using Safari 4.0? Is it crashing for you on misc. websites?

246 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:09:05am

re: #240 BlueCanuck

I knew the US sells a lot of metals to China. A lot of it goes through the Port of Seattle. Up until recently, scrap metal was bringing top dollar, including copper. I didn't know Australia exported metals to China until Crux Australis shared that tidbit. Interesting.

247 theheat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:24:34am

Must. Get. Sleep,

But, I'll leave ya'll with this. Hard to believe a ratty celebrity site like TMZ asks the 'hard' questions, and yet it happens.

Barack Obama -- No I Won't!

We've been calling the White House for the last day, trying to get a reaction from the Prez on our story about the lavish parties Northern Trust threw in L.A. last week. We finally got a statement back -- "No comment."

Remember, this is a bank that got $1.6 billion in bailout money and blew a wad of cash paying Sheryl Crow, Chicago, and Earth, Wind & Fire. And then there were the dinners, the Tiffany gift bags, the fabulous cocktail parties -- all from the bank that laid off 450 workers in December.

Obama was under fire for a mortgage he got from Northern Trust back in 2005. Obama got a 5.625% rate, which was lower than the going rate of about 6%. The Federal Election Commission recently ruled no laws were violated and the rate was in line with other mortgages.

But "no comment." Really?

248 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:40:41am

Good morning, Lizards.

249 NYCHardhat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:42:40am

Drone

Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, visiting Washington to take part in the Obama administration's review of policy on Afghanistan and Pakistan, said he told U.S. officials that "they have to review the strategy vis-a-vis drones."

Pakistan's civilian government, elected a year ago, believes the U.S. missile strikes are counterproductive and have fanned an Islamist insurgency across northwest Pakistan, he said.

Ummm. What?

250 NYCHardhat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:43:09am

goodmorning goddess

251 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:44:34am

{NYCHardhat}

252 Crux Australis  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:47:06am

re: #243 Fenway_Nation

Didn't ChinAlco- PRC China's aluminum company- buy a huge stake in Rio Tinto mining last month?

I am not sure. I don't think anything is final yet. The Australian government needs to see whether this is in the nations interest. Natural resources are a national security issue I believe.

re: #238 theheat

I knew about the minerals only because of the World's Longest Train being run from the mines to the ports in the really barren and sandblasted expanses of Western Australia.

I believe this is what you are talking about. The video is nearly 9 minutes if you have the time to watch.

253 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:51:42am

Good morning {goddess}, how are the stress levels today?

254 Crux Australis  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:53:10am

Crux Australis

Karma: 57
Registered since: Oct 29, 2006 at 12:13 pm
(Logged in)

No. of comments posted: 500

500 posts at LGF!

501 now

255 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:54:08am

re: #254 Crux Australis

I guess you aren't really the chatty type. Or you have more of a life then I do. :D

256 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:54:14am

I hope there is a special place in hell for animal poachers. One who would kill an elephant or rhinoceros for a horn; for a tusk...

Short rant.

How is everyone!?

257 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:55:46am

Hey FBV, how goes it. I also agree with you 100%. If you are going to kill something, use the whole damn animal for yourself.

/hate trophy hunters.

258 rightside  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:57:31am

re: #248 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

259 rightside  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:58:17am

re: #256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


tusk, tusk, tusk.

260 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:58:30am

BBIAB...online crossword calling...

261 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:59:18am

re: #253 BlueCanuck

Good morning {goddess}, how are the stress levels today?

{BlueCanuck}

Better! I'm still climbing a mountain, but for now I'm on a level grade.

262 Crux Australis  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 3:59:39am

re: #255 BlueCanuck

I guess you aren't really the chatty type. Or you have more of a life then I do. :D

I don't think so. I am also involved in other forums where my post count(s) is/are way over 1000.

I don't spend much time at LGF. That's all.

263 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:01:05am

re: #258 rightside

{goddess}

{rightside}

Thanks for all the good thoughts.

264 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:03:58am

Got to run--bye!

265 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:05:14am

bye goddess, have a great day.

266 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:05:47am
267 gregg  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:10:51am

re: #175 Dustyvet

US complains about China's human rights record
Piss off your creditor...brillant..!

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Ed Morrissey explained it this way: If you owe the bank $30,000, they own you. If you owe the bank $30,000,000, you own them.

Personally, I'm waiting for Richard Gere and the Hollywood crowd to condemn Obama for not pressing China on human rights. Crickets.

268 JacksonTn  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:11:26am

Good Morning Lizards ...

What is the point of busting our ass any longer if we are just going to get slammed with taxes ... the budget is going to be unveiled today ... I hate to tell Obama but he may think it is only corporate farmers that make money it is not ...

So, we get penalized for sweating and digging in the dirt for all these years and get successful and now he wants to tell us to give up more so he can give it to other people ...I guess it is not enough that we employ over 60 people ... I kinda think that is doing our part for the economy ...

Things are gonna change ...there are creative ways of doing business ...we will be using them ...

269 Macker  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:14:57am

This is NOT good stuff to wake up to...and it doesn't have anything to do with what БХО did to screw up the USA:

Racist Music Just a Download Away on Mainstream Music Sites

Here are two examples (both launch iTunes):
Skrewdriver
Brutal Attack

Let's see how long it takes Apple to wake the frak up!

270 NYCHardhat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:16:02am

I have the opposite feeling of Michelle Obama. This is the first time in my life that I am NOT proud of this country.

271 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:20:28am

re: #268 JacksonTn

Yeah, but large agri-business is easy to attack. It sounds so much like (gasp) a corporation.

272 3 wood  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:26:26am

Good morning.

Look for the market to open up this morning as the futures are up a bit.

Yesterday, the market was down mainly cause Obama could not keep his mouth shut and every time he opened it, all he could talk about was "crisis" and "catastrophe".

If Obama would shut up we might stand a chance of getting a bit of a rally going.

Yesterday, I saw Stephen Forbes on Kudlow and he gave his top 2 things he would do to turn the market around. They are:

1. Suspend "mark to market".
2. Re install the uptick rule for sort selling.


Also, market expert Pete "Dr. J" Najarian was on the local radio and he said the first thing he would do is suspend "mark to market" as well.

I say that to point out that there is a growing recognition by many experts in the markets that the "mark to market" valuation model has contributed a lot to the present situation and needs to go. So as each day goes by and the Treasury/SEC people don't "get" this and make it happen, it sends very bad messages to the market investors that the people in charge do not know what they are doing.

273 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:27:55am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!

I was thinking, how often should we expect to hear an Obama campaign speech like this last effort? Every month? At the start of each season?

Crux, 500+ comments, congrats :-)

Do you comment on Andrew Bolt's blog?

274 3 wood  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:29:34am

GM just posted a $9.6 billion 4th quarter loss.

At this point I think bankruptcy is the only option for them.

275 Crux Australis  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:33:51am

re: #273 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!

I was thinking, how often should we expect to hear an Obama campaign speech like this last effort? Every month? At the start of each season?

Crux, 500+ comments, congrats :-)

Do you comment on Andrew Bolt's blog?

No I haven't registered yet. I believe that other posters reflect my feelings adequately enough so I haven't really felt the need to comment.

276 Mithrax  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:34:29am

re: #274 3 wood

GM just posted a $9.6 billion 4th quarter loss.

At this point I think bankruptcy is the only option for them.

Sadly, you're right. and I live in a Company town.

Anyone know of a good place to move to?

277 3 wood  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:34:37am

The Illinois political freak show just got a big shot inthe arm to continue for quite some time.

State Attorney Lisa Madigan (who is a Democrat and who's father is the majority leader in the State legislature) is issuing an opinion that Illinois can hold a special election for Obama's old seat (currently held by zombie Roland Burris) if the State Legislature so decides, and if Burris does not win, he's out.

Get ready for a long drawn out public spectacle as Burris then sues to try to keep his gig.

I bet the local Republican party still messes this up.

278 ayatollah ghilmeini  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:35:31am
"If an unmarried woman has an affair she is lashed 100 times. If a married woman has an affair she is stoned to death. What is wrong in it?"

It is one thing when such forward thinking ideas are put forward in the suks of Yemen or the courts of Mali but this was said in Britain.

I don't even have to ask any of the women on this blog (ladies please accept my apologies for this brief foray into loutish misogyny) because I know as certain fact that none of the men on this blog or 99% of most Americans I ever met would accept this for one second.

But here we are. Britain is just pregnant with the problem. 10% of their population, and growing fast, thinks this way. Britain is probably sending more men to fight for the Taliban each year than she send as part of her NATO commitments. There is a statistic for you to ponder.

279 BlueCanuck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:37:54am

Well, time to log off and get ready to go home. See you lizards later, and stay scaly.

280 JacksonTn  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:38:53am

re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah, but large agri-business is easy to attack. It sounds so much like (gasp) a corporation.

Exactly ...my family has never received one cent from federal dollars for our farms ... we have never been able to even collect on our insurance even when we lost a huge crop two years ago to freeze ... the insurance companies always seem to find some excuse not to pay ...last time it was because our seedlings were not tall enough when the freeze came ...

I want to know what classes people attend to learn how to "game" the system ... seems like the same people over and over get the money from the government ...

281 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:40:24am

re: #275 Crux Australis

No I haven't registered yet. I believe that other posters reflect my feelings adequately enough so I haven't really felt the need to comment.

I only comment occasionally, but I read it at work in between patients, and also late at night when I play here :-)

How's the job hunting going?

282 3 wood  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:41:58am

Now Obama wants to spend $634 billion on health care.

He will probably get it too, cause the Democrats control everything.

There is no ending to the spending this guy wants to do.

Look for massive tax increases over the next 2 years, high inflation, large cuts in the military, and unemployment to rise to 9% or 10%.

We are becoming France.

283 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:43:19am

Mornin' Wood!

This new administration has certainly found a lot of money, hasn't it.

284 3 wood  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:44:38am

By the way, I may be last to the party on this but I hear that some Congress folks have been using Twitter and posting their whereabouts on line real time when visiting Iraq etc.

Do these people not realize that they are telling terrorists their exact real time where abouts and those of the military protecting them?

Who do they think the are, Geraldo?

285 3 wood  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:46:30am

re: #283 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They will have to print it.

Look for 15% to 20% inflation.

And don't think gold will be a safe haven either. I bet this crowd outlaws the private ownership of gold like was done during the Great Depression.

286 3 wood  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:46:57am

Got to get ready for work.

Later.

287 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:46:58am

re: #285 3 wood

They will have to print it.

Look for 15% to 20% inflation.

And don't think gold will be a safe haven either. I bet this crowd outlaws the private ownership of gold like was done during the Great Depression.

Where do you think unemployment will peak at?

288 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:50:48am

re: #287 Jetpilot1101

12-15 percent is what I keep hearing.

289 Crux Australis  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:51:21am

re: #281 aussiemagpie

I only comment occasionally, but I read it at work in between patients, and also late at night when I play here :-)

How's the job hunting going?

There are jobs out there. It's just that many people apply for the same position and I miss out. I will find one eventually. I always have in the past.

290 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:55:01am

re: #285 3 wood

They will have to print it.

Look for 15% to 20% inflation.

And don't think gold will be a safe haven either. I bet this crowd outlaws the private ownership of gold like was done during the Great Depression.

How can CBBHO confiscate what we already own?

291 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:58:07am

re: #289 Crux Australis

There are jobs out there. It's just that many people apply for the same position and I miss out. I will find one eventually. I always have in the past.

Good luck Crux

In my field there are so many jobs and not enough people to fill the vacancies

Plus there is a push by this Government, started by the previous one, to have more nurses, and nurse practitioners (because there aren't enough GPs)

292 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:59:18am

re: #290 MandyManners

How can CBBHO confiscate what we already own?


That is what the new domestic security force will be doing/Brown Shirts

293 Big Steve  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:01:16am

ok I have to admit it, Ann Coulter's column made me LOL this morning...

But as long as the nation is obsessed with historic milestones, is no one going to remark on what a great country it is where a mentally retarded woman can become speaker of the house?
294 gregg  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:06:07am

If you look at the size of the announced programs and the plans to pay for them with a tax on upper income Americans, I have to wonder if a lot of those upper bracket people are planning their exit?

295 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:09:25am

Morning all!

296 Macker  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:09:29am

re: #276 Mithrax

Sadly, you're right. and I live in a Company town.

Anyone know of a good place to move to?

Sure! Arizona!

297 Bloodnok  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:10:02am

re: #288 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

12-15 percent is what I keep hearing.

And we're supposed to believe that this was going to happen anyway (because of Bush) and that 0bama is actually preventing it from being worse? REALLY?

Republican leadership: Now is the time where you need to point out what you DIDN'T do with regard to "0bama's crisis". I realize that you inexplicably didn't do this during the election and haven't done any of this since, but 0bama needs to own the next 10 percentage points in unemployment. You also need to loudly point out that you tried to regulate FNMA and FHLMC. Too many people still believe "The Republicans got us in this mess" (I would guess a majority of Americans). LOUDLY proclaim that the mark-to-market suspension will have positive effects and then take the credit if Geithner suspends it and it provides some relief. I heard some noise from Rs about this in September, but not as much in Jan/Feb. Why are you letting him have that victory if he eventually does it?

I am amazed that I am hearing almost NO ideas coming from prominent Republicans (that don't involve cutting volcano monitoring funds). The plan seems to be "Well we didn't vote for the stimulus". This is what the wilderness looks like, folkses. Michael Steele: Do something.

298 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:10:02am

re: #293 Big Steve

But as long as the nation is obsessed with historic milestones, is no one going to remark on what a great country it is where a mentally retarded woman can become speaker of the house?

Maybe it's just me but, I don't like it when people use mental retardation to make fun of others, especially when those people hang out with fascists.

299 opnion  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:10:47am

Good Morning all. The Obama's plab to rescue a Water Dog in April.
Yo Barry, Water Dogs do not wind up in the shelters. The only way that can happen is if one of your supporters one & you come in 20 minutes later with the girls for a photo op.

300 dentate  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:11:03am

re: #293 Big Steve

ok I have to admit it, Ann Coulter's column made me LOL this morning...

Laugh, but Ann Coulter is incapable of opening her mouth without being offensive and insulting to someone. Sooner or later it grows tiresome. I refuse to listen anymore.

301 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:11:15am

re: #295 Chicago Blonde

Morning all!

Hi, and pleased to meet you :-)

302 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:11:39am

re: #292 ThinkRight

That is what the new domestic security force will be doing/Brown Shirts

I don't think they will wear "brown shirts" at all. That way the government can tell us, "What? They're not wearing brown shirts."

303 Bloodnok  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:11:49am

re: #297 Bloodnok

Sorry for the rant btw. I don't usually post before coffee. :-)

304 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:12:25am

re: #303 Bloodnok

Did I hear my cue?
*Offers mug*

305 smokefire  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:12:55am

OK all of you US Jews, who voted for Obama, check this out from Hillary, and the Obama administration.

This is only the beginning, kiddies.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

306 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:13:22am

re: #292 ThinkRight

That is what the new domestic security force will be doing/Brown Shirts

The phrase "cold, dead fingers" comes to mind.

307 Bloodnok  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:14:09am

re: #304 Chicago Blonde

Did I hear my cue?
*Offers mug*

THANKS! Eyes are open now 8-)

308 smokefire  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:15:41am

belated good morning to all from gloomy Northeastern CT.

309 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:15:51am

re: #305 smokefire

OK all of you US Jews, who voted for Obama, check this out from Hillary, and the Obama administration.

This is only the beginning, kiddies.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

The sooner Israel tells the CBBHO to fuck off and die, the better.

310 Mithrax  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:16:10am

re: #296 Macker

Sure! Arizona!

Ok, that's one option. Got anything a little wetter?

311 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:16:12am

re: #297 Bloodnok

BTW - I'm impressed you could do that without caffeine.

312 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:16:17am

re: #309 MandyManners

The sooner Israel tells the CBBHO administration to fuck off and die, the better.

313 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:16:53am

re: #308 smokefire

belated good morning to all from gloomy Northeastern CT.

No daffodils blooming for you yet?

314 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:17:32am

re: #301 aussiemagpie

Hi Aussiemagpie, you too!

315 songbird  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:17:51am

re: #308 smokefire

belated good morning to all from gloomy Northeastern CT.

From the gloomy Northeast to the sunny Southwest (80s here today), Lizards arise to take their positions in society! :-)

316 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:18:00am

Gotta' get the day going for The Kid. bbl

317 smokefire  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:18:29am

re: #313 MandyManners

NO Mandy, still snow cover, cold, and looks like it is going to do something any minute

318 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:19:33am

re: #315 songbird

I like that!
*claws sheathed but ready, ruffles up*

319 smokefire  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:20:26am

Fox is all over the latest Biden Gaffe.
Michelle Malkin is on right now.

320 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:20:35am

re: #302 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Morning FBV! If they listen to George Carlin they'll all be wearing smiley faces.

321 smokefire  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:21:22am

bbl, time for first coffee, and something to eat.

322 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:21:46am
323 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:22:05am

re: #299 opnion

Good morning all.

And hey, I thought the same thing. Sometimes exotic breeds show up in shelters, but it really is a hit or miss thing. Who's betting that a Water Dog just happens to show up in April?

324 gregg  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:22:31am

No daffodils here:

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
314 AM CST THU FEB 26 2009

SNOW WILL RAPIDLY SPREAD ACROSS SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL MINNESOTA THIS MORNING AND INTO WESTERN WISCONSIN AROUND NOON...

.HEAVY SNOW WILL SPREAD INTO WEST CENTRAL MINNESOTA EARLY THIS
MORNING. IT WILL REACH THE EAST CENTRAL INCLUDING THE TWIN CITIES
METRO IN THE MID TO LATE MORNING HOURS AND WEST CENTRAL WISCONSIN AROUND NOON. A WIDE AREA OF SIX OR MORE INCHES OF SNOW IS LIKELY ACROSS MOST OF THIS AREA WITH SOME AMOUNTS EXPECTED IN THE NINE INCH RANGE. AMOUNTS MAY BE A BIT LESS THAN 6 INCHES NEAR THE IOWA BORDER WHERE PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN AS A MIX.

SNOWFALL RATES MAY BE IN THE 1 TO 2 INCH PER HOUR RANGE AT TIMES
WITH THUNDER POSSIBLE IN PARTS OF SOUTHERN AND EAST CENTRAL
MINNESOTA INTO WISCONSIN.

325 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:23:16am

re: #314 Chicago Blonde

Hi Aussiemagpie, you too!

I enjoyed your little animal stories about the carpet etc :-)

326 opnion  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:24:28am

re: #323 VioletTiger

Good morning all.

And hey, I thought the same thing. Sometimes exotic breeds show up in shelters, but it really is a hit or miss thing. Who's betting that a Water Dog just happens to show up in April?

Absolutely!

327 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:24:39am

re: #325 aussiemagpie

Thanks! We love our critters but they're a lot of work. Do you have pets?

I hope if the Obamas get a dog they love and spoil it properly...

328 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:24:41am

re: #310 Mithrax
Georgia

329 Mithrax  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:26:08am

re: #323 VioletTiger

Good morning all.

And hey, I thought the same thing. Sometimes exotic breeds show up in shelters, but it really is a hit or miss thing. Who's betting that a Water Dog just happens to show up in April?

www.petfinder.com

330 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:26:25am

G'Mornin' Lizard Nation; sorry for my week long absence. An explanation of the Porkulus (may have been posted b4...) :

HOW TO EXPLAIN THE STIMULUS BILL

Shortly after class, an economics student approaches his economics professor and says, "I don't understand this stimulus bill. Can you explain it to me?" The professor replied, "I don't have any time to explain it at my office, but if you come over to my house on Saturday and help me with my weekend project, I'll be glad to explain it to you." The student agreed. At the agreed-upon time, the student showed up at the professor's house. The professor stated that the weekend project involved his backyard pool.

They both went out back to the pool, and the professor handed the student a bucket. Demonstrating with his own bucket, the professor said, "First, go over to the deep end, and fill your bucket with as much water as you can." The student did as he was instructed. The professor then continued, "Follow me over to the shallow end, and then dump all the water from your bucket into it."

The student was naturally confused, but did as he was told. The professor then explained they were going to do this many more times, and began walking back to the deep end of the pool. The confused student asked, "Excuse me, but why are we doing this?" The professor matter-of-factly stated that he was trying to make the shallow end much deeper.

The student didn't think the economics professor was serious, but figured that he would find out the real story soon enough. However, after the 6th trip between the shallow end and the deep end, the student began to become worried that his economics professor had gone mad. The student finally replied, "All we're doing is wasting valuable time and effort on unproductive pursuits. Even worse, when this process is all over, everything will be at the same level it was before, so all you'll really have accomplished is the destruction of what could have been truly productive action!" The professor put down his bucket and replied with a smile, "Congratulations. You now understand the stimulus bill."

331 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:27:09am

I wish Erik was here, I'm watching the first day of the first cricket Test from Joburg - Aussies v South Africa...

And I'm just so sad that cricket is not your national sport over there :-)

It's just me and the kitties watching - Mr Aussiemagpie is snoring loudly so I can assume safely he's asleep :-)

332 Killer Tomato  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:27:19am

And they're off...

The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.


ABC News

333 Mithrax  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:27:45am

re: #328 ThinkRight

Georgia

I've toyed with the idea of moving to the south for a while, loved GA the few times I've visited. I just need a quite little place up in the mountains, and a big big lottery win :)

334 Desert Dog  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:28:39am

re: #324 gregg

No daffodils here:

Detailed Local Forecast: Phoenix, AZ


* Today: A mix of clouds and sun during the morning will give way to cloudy skies this afternoon. High 79F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph.
* Tonight: Partly cloudy skies. Low 54F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph.
* Tomorrow: Partly cloudy skies. Warm. High near 80F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph.
* Tomorrow night: A few clouds. Low 56F. Winds light and variable.
* Saturday: Times of sun and clouds. Highs in the mid 80s and lows in the upper 50s.
* Sunday: Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the upper 80s and lows in the low 60s.
* Monday: Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the mid 80s and lows in the upper 50s.

335 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:29:17am

re: #333 Mithrax

I've toyed with the idea of moving to the south for a while, loved GA the few times I've visited. I just need a quite little place up in the mountains, and a big big lottery win :)


The lottery win will be mine cause I HOPE like we have been told to.
LOL
/

336 opnion  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:29:43am

re: #327 Chicago Blonde

Thanks! We love our critters but they're a lot of work. Do you have pets?

I hope if the Obamas get a dog they love and spoil it properly...


A Water Dog is great for kids. The good news is it will not bite the kids.THe bad news is it won't bite the other two.

337 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:29:59am

re: #331 aussiemagpie

Your kitties watch cricket? Too cute. One watched Star Trek and I had another that was fascinated when I'd put on mascara. She'd just sit and watch. Always amused me.

338 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:30:02am

re: #327 Chicago Blonde

Thanks! We love our critters but they're a lot of work. Do you have pets?

I hope if the Obamas get a dog they love and spoil it properly...

Yes, we have three spoilt kitties and I feed a big tom that the neighbours *accidently * left behind three years ago

Over the years we've had a procession of budgies, dogs, fish...

339 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:30:56am

Traveling to Cuba is like going back in time

I'm guessing... Obama supporter.
Hope it doesn't spoil your breakfast.

I'll ruin it for you, it's the USA's fault. As always.

340 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:30:59am

The IRS decides to audit Grandpa, and summons him to the IRS office.

The IRS auditor was not surprised when Grandpa showed up with his attorney.

The auditor said, 'Well, sir, you have an extravagant lifestyle and no full-time employment, Which you explain by saying that you win money gambling. I'm not sure the IRS finds that believable.'

I'm a great gambler, and I can prove it,' says Grandpa. 'How about a demonstration?'

The auditor thinks for a moment and said, 'Okay. Go ahead.'

Grandpa says, 'I'll bet you a thousand dollars that I can bite my own eye.'

The auditor thinks a moment and says, 'It's a bet.'

Grandpa removes his glass eye and bites it. The auditor's jaw drops.

Grandpa says, 'Now, I'll bet you two thousand dollars that I can bite my other eye.'

Now the auditor can tell Grandpa isn't blind, so he takes the bet.

Grandpa removes his dentures and bites his good eye.

The stunned auditor now realizes he has wagered and lost three grand, with Grandpa's attorney as a witness. He starts to get nervous.

'Want to go double or nothing?' Grandpa asks 'I'll bet you six thousand dollars that I can stand on one side of your desk, and pee into that wastebasket on the other side, and never get a drop anywhere in between.'

The auditor, twice burned, is cautious now, but he looks carefully and decides there's no way this old guy could possibly manage that stunt, so he agrees again.

Grandpa stands beside the desk and unzips his pants, but although he strains mightily, he can't make the stream reach the wastebasket on the other side, so he pretty much urinates all over the auditor's desk.

The auditor leaps with joy, realizing that he has just turned a major loss into a huge win.

But Grandpa's own attorney moans and puts his head in his hands.

'Are you okay?' the auditor asks.

'Not really,' says the attorney. 'This morning, when Grandpa told me he'd been summoned for an audit, he bet me twenty-five thousand dollars that he could come in here and pee all over your desk and that you'd be happy about
it!'

Don't Mess with Old People!

341 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:32:54am

re: #337 Chicago Blonde

Your kitties watch cricket? Too cute. One watched Star Trek and I had another that was fascinated when I'd put on mascara. She'd just sit and watch. Always amused me.

I'm stretching the reality - all three are asleep but they''re close by me so I'm sure they're listening to the commentary :-)

342 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:33:42am
343 gregg  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:33:52am

re: #334 Desert Dog

Fortunately for me, I like snow (I think there's only a dozen of us in America). I'm actually pumped up at the potential for 6-10 inches of snow. Pretty crazy, huh?

344 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:34:15am

re: #338 aussiemagpie

You're good to feed it. Poor guy, how can they just leave it behind?

345 Mithrax  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:34:36am

re: #341 aussiemagpie

I'm stretching the reality - all three are asleep but they''re close by me so I'm sure they're listening to the commentary :-)

Mine is staring at me from his tree. He's pretending to sleep but every so often I see him peek over the edge to make sure I'm still where I'm supposed to be.

346 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:34:41am

re: #340 Pietr

ROTFLMAO! Upding!

347 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:35:43am

George Carlin

"As it stands right now, I lead Richard Pryor in heart attacks, two to one. However, Richard still leads me, one to nothing, in burning yourself up." (after his second heart attack, 1982)

RIP George and Rich. We could use a laugh right now.

348 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:35:55am
349 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:36:19am

re: #343 gregg

Fortunately for me, I like snow (I think there's only a dozen of us in America). I'm actually pumped up at the potential for 6-10 inches of snow. Pretty crazy, huh?

I like snow also. But it's got to really snow so I can close the office and go home. Not this inch or 2 so some patients cancel but not all.

350 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:36:53am

re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

George Carlin

RIP George and Rich. We could use a laugh right now.

Or more tissues?

351 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:37:30am

re: #339 SasquatchOnSteroids

Traveling to Cuba is like going back in time

I'm guessing... Obama supporter.
Hope it doesn't spoil your breakfast.

I'll ruin it for you, it's the USA's fault. As always.

Cuba sounds so wonderful and I'm so glad both our governments are trying so hard to get our countries to be just like Cuba!

How exciting and something to look forward to!

/// *spit*

352 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:37:31am

re: #329 Mithrax

www.petfinder.com


That's very cool.
Most of my critters just showed up on the back deck and said 'can we come in there?'

353 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:38:02am

re: #341 aussiemagpie

I'm stretching the reality - all three are asleep but they''re close by me so I'm sure they're listening to the commentary :-)

I have 2 indoor tortoiseshell cats, a Jack Russel terrier mix outside, and about a dozen strays drop by to enjoy the cat food/water that I put out. I've a number of stray female cats that hang here with their litters, for food and safety. Plus a hummingbird feeder and regular bird feeder, both of which I need to refill shortly.

354 Mithrax  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:39:16am

re: #352 VioletTiger

That's very cool.
Most of my critters just showed up on the back deck and said 'can we come in there?'

Yeah, it's an awesome site. Especially if you're looking to foster or adopt a rescue. I want a dog, but I'm leery of getting one, and I've no idea how his imperial majesty the cat, would react.

355 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:39:34am

re: #339 SasquatchOnSteroids

Well, good for him. If he wouldn't be "more equal", if he'd be stuck in steerage with the rest of us over here, he wouldn't be so freaking happy about it, would he?

Dolt.

356 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:41:04am

re: #340 Pietr
That's a keeper!

357 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:41:07am

re: #353 Pietr

I have 2 Food-Point cats and a North American WaterBed Hound.

358 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:41:51am

re: #351 aussiemagpie

re: #355 Chicago Blonde

Think Nancy jumped up and clapped after she read that ?
Ijits.

359 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:42:04am

re: #344 Chicago Blonde

You're good to feed it. Poor guy, how can they just leave it behind?

The neighbours just left the poor thing behind and I wondered why they just didn't ask me me to take Sooty (yes a highly original name for a black cat)

A few months later I ran into the owner and her explanation - they couldn't get him to get into the cat carrier and they had every intention of coming back to get him !

Meanwhile three years later...I'm still waiting

360 abolitionist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:42:36am

Help! Can anyone tell me please, who is the guy on the right, in the first 10 seconds of this video at HotAir? Did he bang his head into a door or a floor or something? Is that our VP?

The tie seems to match Biden's at 25-35sec into the video.

361 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:43:16am

re: #345 Mithrax

Mine is staring at me from his tree. He's pretending to sleep but every so often I see him peek over the edge to make sure I'm still where I'm supposed to be.

Hi, he has to keep track of you - you might escape :-)

362 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:43:50am

re: #357 Chicago Blonde

Very descriptive post...:>))

363 Mithrax  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:44:28am

re: #361 aussiemagpie

Hi, he has to keep track of you - you might escape :-)

I do every morning. My office is just on the other side of the driveway (with no computer however), so I'm back and forth some days.

Maybe he's waiting for me to stop making that damn typing sound so he can go back to sleep.

364 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:44:32am

U.S. Middle East special envoy George Mitchell said Thursday that predominantly Muslim Turkey's friendship with Israel gives it a unique opportunity to help achieve peace in the Middle East.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

This asshole is a fuckin idiot. Maybe someone should clue him in to the deteriorating relationship between Israel and Turkey. Or for that matter between Turkey and the Western World. Did I say that Mitchell is fuckin idiot yet?

365 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:44:42am

re: #358 SasquatchOnSteroids

It is frightening isn't it? I think a larger chunk of the people don't have an idea of what socialism really means and they think it sounds just great. The smaller group of the ones that are in charge or have the most influence do though, and that's what infuriates me.

366 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:45:37am

re: #353 Pietr

I have 2 indoor tortoiseshell cats, a Jack Russel terrier mix outside, and about a dozen strays drop by to enjoy the cat food/water that I put out. I've a number of stray female cats that hang here with their litters, for food and safety. Plus a hummingbird feeder and regular bird feeder, both of which I need to refill shortly.

You sound like a very nice caring person

Those strays certainly are very fortunate!

367 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:46:19am

re: #354 Mithrax

Yeah, it's an awesome site. Especially if you're looking to foster or adopt a rescue. I want a dog, but I'm leery of getting one, and I've no idea how his imperial majesty the cat, would react.

They might end up being friends.

We started with two pedigree Bengal cats, and years later stray kittens showed up. We took them in, and there were fireworks for a while, but things settled down.
But my husband has put the brakes on any other adoptions, so we stand at 5.

368 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:46:31am

I took my dad to the mall the other day to buy some new shoes, (he is
92).
We decided to grab a bite at the food court. I noticed he was
watching a teenager sitting next to him. The teenager had spiked hair in all different colors: green, red, orange, and blue. My dad kept staring at him. The teenager would look and find him staring every time.
When the teenager had had enough, he sarcastically asked,
"What's the matter, old man? Never done anything wild in your life?"
Knowing my Dad, I quickly swallowed my food so that I would not choke on his response, knowing he would have a good one, and in classic style he did not bat an eye in his response.
"Got drunk once and had sex with a peacock. I was just
wondering if you were my son."

369 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:46:35am

Good morning Lizards. The latest from one of my favorite writers, Victor Davis Hanson.

Nearly 93 percent of those Americans in the workforce are still employed. The difference between what the banks pay out in interest on depositors’ savings and what they charge borrowers for loans is one of the most profitable in recent memory.

The sudden crash in energy prices may be hurting Iran, the Gulf monarchies, Russia, and Venezuela. Yet Americans, who import 60 percent of their transportation fuel, along with natural gas, have been given about a half-trillion-dollar annual reprieve. The reduced price of energy could translate into more than $1,500 in annual savings for the average driver, and hundreds of dollars off the heating and cooling bills for the homeowner.

For the vast majority of Americans with jobs, the fall in prices for almost everything from food to cars has, in real dollars, meant an actual increase in purchasing power. The loss in value of home equity is serious for those who need to relocate for work or want to downsize and move to an apartment or a retirement community. But when averaged over the last decade, real estate still shows a substantial annual increase in value.

Moreover, the vast majority of American homeowners — well over 90 percent — meet their mortgage payments. They have no plans to flip their homes for profit. For them, the fact that they have lost paper equity, or even owe more than their homes are currently appraised at, is scary — but not equivalent to a depression. Most are confident that after a few years their houses will appreciate again. As for now, working young couples have a chance to buy a house that would have been impossible just two years ago.

So are we in a depression that justifies a vast redefinition of government and a massive takeover of the private sector? Not quite. What we are a witnessing instead is a sharp downturn from the most affluent era in the history of civilization. For the last two decades, we borrowed and spent as if there were no tomorrow. Now we are living in that tomorrow of cutting back and making do.

In relative terms, it is no longer 2005, but that does not mean it is 1932 either.

370 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:47:11am

re: #368 Pietr

I took my dad to the mall the other day to buy some new shoes, (he is
92).
We decided to grab a bite at the food court. I noticed he was
watching a teenager sitting next to him. The teenager had spiked hair in all different colors: green, red, orange, and blue. My dad kept staring at him. The teenager would look and find him staring every time.
When the teenager had had enough, he sarcastically asked,
"What's the matter, old man? Never done anything wild in your life?"
Knowing my Dad, I quickly swallowed my food so that I would not choke on his response, knowing he would have a good one, and in classic style he did not bat an eye in his response.
"Got drunk once and had sex with a peacock. I was just
wondering if you were my son."

Nice.

371 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:47:37am

re: #358 SasquatchOnSteroids

re: #355 Chicago Blonde

Think Nancy jumped up and clapped after she read that ?
Ijits.

I can just see her driving around in a clapped out Plymouth...

372 Mithrax  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:48:39am

re: #367 VioletTiger

They might end up being friends.

We started with two pedigree Bengal cats, and years later stray kittens showed up. We took them in, and there were fireworks for a while, but things settled down.
But my husband has put the brakes on any other adoptions, so we stand at 5.

Socrates is a purebred Occicat (the silver and black colouring, people wonder where I got the mini snowleopard!) but the dog I want to get is a collie.

But I don't know if I could handle a dog that's smarter than I am! :P

373 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:48:39am

re: #359 aussiemagpie

You're a good auntie to poor little Sooty. The WaterBed Hound, as I call him, was a home-to-home transfer. His people loved and spoiled him and when they couldn't keep him any more they were responsible and found two more suckers people to spoil him.

374 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:49:26am

re: #363 Mithrax

I do every morning. My office is just on the other side of the driveway (with no computer however), so I'm back and forth some days.

Maybe he's waiting for me to stop making that damn typing sound so he can go back to sleep.

You've no problems with peak hour traffic!

375 Mithrax  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:50:47am

re: #374 aussiemagpie

You've no problems with peak hour traffic!

Yeah, but I don't get to use a blizzard as an excuse either :P

376 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:52:38am

re: #371 aussiemagpie

I can just see her driving around in a clapped out Plymouth...

hehe.

After watching that video of Her Smileness jumping up and down like an idiot, my wife said that Robert Byrds' office lights were probably going onoffonoffonoffonoffonoffonoffonoffonoff.

377 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:54:45am

re: #372 Mithrax

Socrates is a purebred Occicat (the silver and black colouring, people wonder where I got the mini snowleopard!) but the dog I want to get is a collie.

But I don't know if I could handle a dog that's smarter than I am! :P


Socrates sounds like a pretty kitty. I love the spotted ones.

378 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:55:04am

re: #367 VioletTiger

I love your avatar!

379 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:55:42am

Fayyad asks donors to channel Gaza aid through him
Ahead of next week's aid conference, Palestinian PM asks donor countries to transfer hundreds of millions for Strip's reconstruction 'first and foremost' through his government

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Of course, why not, after all the Swiss need to build up their bank accounts also?

380 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:55:46am

re: #367 VioletTiger

They might end up being friends.

We started with two pedigree Bengal cats, and years later stray kittens showed up. We took them in, and there were fireworks for a while, but things settled down.
But my husband has put the brakes on any other adoptions, so we stand at 5.

Many years ago my husband thought we had three cats, when we had four - two were similar tabbies and before he came home from work - luckily I arrived home before he did, we'd put one poor thing in the granny flat downstairs...one day I knew I'd have to tell him about Cat number 4 but just not yet

One Saturday, he came home early from golf, and saw me with two tabbies around my legs while I was doing the washing :-)

He thought he was seeing double at first and needed new glasses...

381 Mithrax  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:57:20am

re: #377 VioletTiger

Socrates sounds like a pretty kitty. I love the spotted ones.

The cat at rest.

382 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:58:19am

re: #381 Mithrax

AWWW! :)
BBIAB all - more coffee needed...

383 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:59:14am

re: #378 Chicago Blonde

I love your avatar!


Thanks, likewise.
The actual photo is much better. Anabel, a very sweet kitty, looks like a vampire cat, complete with fangs.

384 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 5:59:38am

re: #373 Chicago Blonde

You're a good auntie to poor little Sooty. The WaterBed Hound, as I call him, was a home-to-home transfer. His people loved and spoiled him and when they couldn't keep him any more they were responsible and found two more suckers people to spoil him.

LOL! One of my kitties belonged to a patient of our practice who was moving into a retirement village, so I ended up with Ugly the cat :-)

385 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:00:01am

Actually, I miss trading jokes with Erik...this would normally be each trying to best the other.

Judy got married and had 13 children.

Her first husband,Ted, died of cancer.

She married again, and she & Bob had 7 more
children.

Bob was killed in a car accident, 12 years later.

Judy *again*, remarried,... and this time, she &
John had 5 more children.

Judy finally died, after having 25 children.

Standing before her coffin, the preacher prayed for her.

He thanked the Lord for this very loving woman and said,
"Lord, they are finally together."

Ethel leaned over and quietly asked her best friend, Margaret:

"Do you think he means her first, second, or third husband?"

Margaret replied:...

"I think he means her legs!"

386 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:00:09am

re: #381 Mithrax


How cute! And how long before you were able to click that mouse again...

387 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:00:23am

re: #385 Pietr

Whur's Eric?

388 Mithrax  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:00:52am

re: #386 VioletTiger

How cute! And how long before you were able to click that mouse again...


Actually, I kept using it and he just kept right on snuggling.

389 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:01:33am

re: #383 VioletTiger

She looks like she's going "Mom! MOM!" :)

Thanks, I love flowers. I can't grow any without killing the poor things so I have my floral garden in the form of art/posters...

390 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:01:44am

re: #375 Mithrax

Yeah, but I don't get to use a blizzard as an excuse either :P

In fact you have no excuses at all - the train is not running, there is a transport strike, the roads have flooded and collapsed, there's a 50 car pileup on the motorway... :-)

391 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:03:37am

re: #376 SasquatchOnSteroids

hehe.

After watching that video of Her Smileness jumping up and down like an idiot, my wife said that Robert Byrds' office lights were probably going onoffonoffonoffonoffonoffonoffonoffonoff.

Now that's funny! I'm still laughing...

392 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:04:15am

re: #380 aussiemagpie

That's so funny!
Hmmm, how to work that out here? Saw a beautiful fluffy kitty in the Pet Smart adoption cages last weekend. I would have had her home in a heartbeat.

393 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:04:59am

re: #387 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whur's Eric?

Don't have a clue, FBV. I've been away for a while; this is my first time on in about a week, or more. Maybe he's early to bed?

394 Mithrax  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:06:00am

Off to scoot over to the office. The 45 second commute is a real bitch.

395 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:06:12am

re: #389 Chicago Blonde

She looks like she's going "Mom! MOM!" :)

Thanks, I love flowers. I can't grow any without killing the poor things so I have my floral garden in the form of art/posters...


Try some African violets. Very easy to grow.

396 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:06:13am

re: #387 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #393 Pietr

I think he said he was taking a trip for a couple days?

397 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:07:54am

re: #395 VioletTiger

*hangs head* I've killed those too! I have bamboo and jade plants - the bamboo I especially love, since I just put it in water in a cool vase.

I will try another African violet. Do you feed yours anything special?

398 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:08:54am

re: #396 Chicago Blonde

re: #393 Pietr

I think he said he was taking a trip for a couple days?

If so, he's probably working on his move/return. His short-timer calendar should be about 1/2 filled in...

399 Hoffmonster  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:09:11am

So, was this guy classified as an enemy combatant, and released, was he tortured? read his miranda rights? This is important shit man...
CNN fails yet again...

400 Irish Rose  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:09:59am

Good morning lizards, day number 4 of the worst case of strep throat ever. I'm moving from the bed to the sofa today, and putting soup on the menu.

Woo hoo.

401 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:11:57am

re: #397 Chicago Blonde

*hangs head* I've killed those too! I have bamboo and jade plants - the bamboo I especially love, since I just put it in water in a cool vase.

I will try another African violet. Do you feed yours anything special?

Any garden supply section should have African Violet food, along with directions on the container/box. Just watch the kitty around it. Mine have even eaten cacti that I planted inside, and the current ones eat the bamboo...:>))

402 CommonCents  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:11:59am

It should be noted that Hussein Obama has saved or created 7270 points on the Dow. We may be down a butt load, but it's not zero...yet.

403 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:12:33am

re: #399 Hoffmonster

Taxes are skyrocketing, the stock market is plummeting, Iran has potential nuc- oh, LOOK! CUTE! Fuzzy!

I've pretty much given up on CNN except to see what we're being fed...

404 tfc3rid  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:13:38am

Are you ready for 646 Billion for Socilized Health Care?

Liberal dream, this administration is...

405 DawnofTruth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:13:48am

Good morning, I heard an interesting tidbit this morning. The $13.00 a week the president has promised is a reduction in withholding not a reduction in taxes. So you still will be taxed on the money earned but won't have the same amount of taxes withheld. Is this true?

406 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:14:16am

re: #401 Pietr

Mine have even eaten cacti that I planted inside, and the current ones eat the bamboo...:>))

I have a baby gate to keep kittehs away from "salad". :) Thanks for the info on the violets. After I've turned the 3rd one into a brown crumpled lab experiment I gave up for a while...

407 The Hoopster  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:14:23am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

408 Irish Rose  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:14:32am

re: #368 Pietr

LMAO!

409 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:15:26am

re: #400 Irish Rose

Good morning, and I hope you're better soon.

410 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:15:51am

re: #407 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?


We are great
You?

411 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:16:46am

re: #406 Chicago Blonde
re: #397 Chicago Blonde
The secret is not to over-water them. Try one of those self watering pots (ceramic with a porous inner pot) with a very lite potting soil (lots of perlite).
Any fertilizer will work.

412 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:17:33am

EDITORIAL: Yes, Ty'Sheoma, there is a Santa Claus

The president said that Ty'Sheoma's words reflected "a generosity, a resilience, a decency, and a determination that perseveres; a willingness to take responsibility for our future and for posterity." But what is on display is not responsibility but irresponsibility. This is the new reality in America, that those with political pull will benefit, those without will not. The centralization of economic and government activity in Washington is moving forward at a breathtaking pace. Connections are replacing competence as a measure of a person's worth. This is the America President Obama and the Democrats in Congress want to create, one in which they will decide who is worthy of public largess, and who will be forced to pay for it. As candidate Obama said last fall, he wants to "spread the wealth around." Our future and posterity will be paying for the president's profligacy, down to Ty'Sheoma's grandchildren and beyond.

SOS.

413 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:17:34am

re: #400 Irish Rose

Good morning lizards, day number 4 of the worst case of strep throat ever. I'm moving from the bed to the sofa today, and putting soup on the menu.

Woo hoo.

Sympathies-I got it over New Years once, and was miserable. Tried to avoid the Doctor (not knowing it was Strep), but after 3 days in the 104/105 temp range, gave in and went to the ER. Nurses thought I was joking/hung over-didn't believe the temperature quote. Then, theirs' beeped and said "104.5" on it's little display. I got moved from the waiting room and saw the Dr fairly quickly, as a result.

414 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:18:05am

re: #411 VioletTiger

Cool, thank you. Next time I'm out I'm getting a violet.

415 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:18:43am

re: #404 tfc3rid

Are you ready for 646 Billion for Socilized Health Care?

Liberal dream, this administration is...


I just heard about that on Fox.
We're sliding down the steepest slope to socialism.

416 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:18:45am

re: #392 VioletTiger

That's so funny!
Hmmm, how to work that out here? Saw a beautiful fluffy kitty in the Pet Smart adoption cages last weekend. I would have had her home in a heartbeat.

I love your avatar too, the guardian of the garden!

I'm a natural born liar I'm afraid when it comes to our kitties - my son left his cat with me for a few days, eight years ago and Mr Aussiemagpie got over that one, Kevin the cat is a stray and I've been "finding "a home for her for two years and Ugly is really and truly going to a good home very soon!

Of course, Mr Aussiemagpie just expects me to turn up with another one

417 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:19:05am

re: #407 HoosierHoops

Morning HoosierHoops! Have coffee, sun is partially out here, so far so good.

418 pingjockey  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:19:42am

"I don't think that word means what you think it does".
Inigo Montoya

419 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:20:31am

re: #413 Pietr

Sympathies-I got it over New Years once, and was miserable. Tried to avoid the Doctor (not knowing it was Strep), but after 3 days in the 104/105 temp range, gave in and went to the ER. Nurses thought I was joking/hung over-didn't believe the temperature quote. Then, theirs' beeped and said "104.5" on it's little display. I got moved from the waiting room and saw the Dr fairly quickly, as a result.

Strep is definitely the pits, and left untreated, can progress into rheumatic heart disease. My dad had that. Not good.

420 pingjockey  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:20:53am

re: #415 VioletTiger
At a 4 trillion dollar pace. $4 trillion is 4000 billion. Madness.

421 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:21:07am

re: #405 DawnofTruth

That's the way I read it. I plan on redoing my W-4 to off set this "tax break". If it turns out I am wrong, well at least I should get it back next year. If I am/we are right, I will not have to worry about having to pay taxes next year.

I hope.

422 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:21:30am

re: #399 Hoffmonster

So, was this guy classified as an enemy combatant, and released, was he tortured? read his miranda rights? This is important shit man...
CNN fails yet again...

I'll refrain from jokes regarding this animal and the White House...

423 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:21:52am

re: #402 CommonCents

It should be noted that Hussein Obama has saved or created 7270 points on the Dow. We may be down a butt load, but it's not zero...yet.

To find out where it's at currently, you can check our website...what's the number ?
7, yeah, that's it.
www. 7.com.

-Joe Gerlymon.

Dumbass.

424 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:22:11am

re: #422 Ward Cleaver

I'll refrain from jokes regarding this animal and the White House...


Racist !
/

426 pingjockey  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:22:43am

re: #421 Bubblehead II
I was quite shocked to not get a return. I have 3 boys, under 18 and we have to pay! BTW, our gross was less than 70k. Yippee, We're rich. Bah!

427 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:22:49am

re: #404 tfc3rid

Are you ready for 646 Billion for Socilized Health Care?

Liberal dream, this administration is...

Paid for by "taxes on the rich". Can you say, "Class Warfare"? Sure, I knew you could.

428 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:23:00am

re: #424 ThinkRight

Racist !
/

Yup!

429 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:23:20am

re: #399 Hoffmonster

So, was this guy classified as an enemy combatant, and released, was he tortured? read his miranda rights? This is important shit man...
CNN fails yet again...

Of course it's important! You have your priorities all mixed up!

What deficit? What stimulus? What recession?

430 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:23:23am

re: #420 pingjockey

But it's for the chiiillldrennn...

/Urp.

431 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:24:18am

re: #422 Ward Cleaver

The film director Tim Burton yesterday apologized for the closing scene in his 2001 film Planet of the Apes, which imagines a future America in which the Lincoln Memorial statue is replaced with a statue of a warlike gorilla.

In a statement Burton said:

Given the controversy surrounding the recent New York Post cartoon, which featured a chimp that many people took to represent President Obama, I now realize that many Americans are likely to find the portrayal of an ape president offensive. Although it is no defense, I would point out that when I made the film few would have imagined that our country would elect a black president so soon afterwards. The scene was not intended to allude in any fashion to a future black president, and I deeply regret any offense I may have caused to African-Americans, and indeed to Americans in general.


Political Correctness Gone Ape

432 tfc3rid  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:24:25am

re: #427 Ward Cleaver

Paid for by "taxes on the rich". Can you say, "Class Warfare"? Sure, I knew you could.

F**king shocker.

433 pingjockey  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:24:31am

re: #430 Chicago Blonde
Yep. My kids, their kids, and their grandkids are going to curse our memories.

434 Hoffmonster  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:25:09am

re: #422 Ward Cleaver

HA!

The comments from the LWKs are funny too... So much LWK hatred, it's scary.

435 tfc3rid  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:25:19am

re: #433 pingjockey

Yep. My kids, their kids, and their grandkids are going to curse our memories.

And I don't blame them one iota.

436 pingjockey  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:25:26am

re: #431 ThinkRight
"Get your hands off of me. You damn dirty ape".

437 pingjockey  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:25:56am

re: #435 tfc3rid
Nope.

438 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:25:56am

re: #425 Ojoe

Dawn comes to the San Gabriel Mountains again, and in the connectedness of the modern world, which only attends to the tiniest scrap of what there is for us to see, you can by remote connection, see it.

The Towercam.

Good Morning All.

Good morning Ojoe. I see that the snow is holding its own, even with temps in the 40s.

Here in Dallas, spring is starting to appear. On the way to work this morning I noticed some trees with a green tinge, meaning they're beginning the leaf out. I even saw a couple of Bradford pears with white blooms on them.

439 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:26:19am

re: #420 pingjockey

At a 4 trillion dollar pace. $4 trillion is 4000 billion. Madness.


The majority of Americans must be convinced that 'somebody else' will be paying for it.
I suppose they don't figure that corporations with higher taxes will raise prices and small businesses with higher taxes will not hire or give raises, and those same businesses will also raise proves on their goods and services.

Anybody who does not think their pocket will be picked is a fool.

440 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:26:32am

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (46 degrees going up to 60 degrees) slightly overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

441 Irish Rose  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:26:35am

An interesting side note today... I ran a search for unclaimed assets last night, and found out that I have some unclaimed assets in my name. I'm not sure what they are, but it's more than $100.00.

There are also multiple unclaimed assets in my moms' name (I'm her heir).

Filling out the paperwork for the claims today, we'll see what happens.

442 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:26:58am

re: #431 ThinkRight

Political Correctness Gone Ape

He's even weirder than I thought. I do like his animated films, though.

443 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:28:12am

re: #442 Ward Cleaver

He's even weirder than I thought. I do like his animated films, though.


Those very dark humored artist make me feel normal
LOL

444 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:28:17am

re: #440 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (46 degrees going up to 60 degrees) slightly overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Doing good. Going up to 86 here in Dallas-Fort Worth today, and in towns to our west and southwest, into the lower 90s.

445 The Hoopster  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:28:30am

re: #417 Chicago Blonde

Morning HoosierHoops! Have coffee, sun is partially out here, so far so good.

Good Morning Chicago...I've had 3 cups already..better stop now
or I'll start posting in Caps!

446 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:28:42am

re: #433 pingjockey

Your kids will at least be able to point to you and say "not my folks!"

448 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:29:09am

So, next, are they going to destroy all copies of King Kong?

449 The Hoopster  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:29:13am

re: #440 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (46 degrees going up to 60 degrees) slightly overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Good Morning Realwest!
Is it friday yet?

450 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:29:14am

re: #440 realwest

Morning Realwest!

451 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:29:37am

re: #426 pingjockey

Well the Wife and I both have taxes withheld at the married but single rate with an additional $20.00 (now going to $35.00) withheld as well. Now some people say this isn't right as we are giving the Government a interest free loan. Maybe so, but it sure as hell is better than having to cough up $500 buck or more at the time of filing.

452 CommonCents  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:30:13am

re: #405 DawnofTruth

I found this...

For the remainder of 2009, taxpayers' tax liability would be reduced by the amount that withholding would have been reduced had the tax cut been in effect for the entire year.

It's pretty vague leaving me feeling like no one really knows, which is probably the intent so they can swindle us later and claim that's what they meant all along.

453 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:30:21am

re: #448 Ward Cleaver

So, next, are they going to destroy all copies of King Kong?


It is the right thing to do
And all the money with slave owner pictures on it will be replaced also

454 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:30:23am

re: #444 Ward Cleaver
Good morning Ward - whoo -Hoo that's the kind of weather report I like to hear!
Hope all is well in the Cleaver household these days?

455 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:30:47am

re: #440 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (46 degrees going up to 60 degrees) slightly overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

*Smooch* {darls} and all is well here at almost 1.30am Friday :-)

The cricket is on, Aussies v South Africa from Joburg, but the only lizard here who could discuss this with me isn't here right now!

456 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:30:50am

re: #439 VioletTiger

The majority of Americans must be convinced that 'somebody else' will be paying for it.
I suppose they don't figure that corporations with higher taxes will raise prices and small businesses with higher taxes will not hire or give raises, and those same businesses will also raise proves on their goods and services.

Anybody who does not think their pocket will be picked is a fool.

I've tried explaining that corporate taxes are just pass-along taxes to consumers. Some people won't get it or don't care no matter what.

But this amp goes to 11.
-Nigel Tufnel.

457 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:31:05am

Somewhere in America there are families that make $225,000-245,000 combined income. When this new tax plan comes into affect,(huge increase for families making $250k +) where is the motivation for that family to do better,, work more,, earn more ,, expand their small business?

I'm going to my sign guy today and see how much it will cost to make bumper stickers that say

PUNISH THE ACHIEVERS ,,, REWARD THE SLACKERS!

458 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:31:19am

re: #445 HoosierHoops

LOL! I've had my 2 mugs, now thinking about a little breakfast.

Once again guys, I'd rather stay here but I need to go. Have a good one, Lizards!

459 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:31:23am

re: #441 Irish Rose
Hi Rose - gee that's really interesting! I sure hope you wind up getting some serious money out of this! Good luck!

460 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:31:35am

re: #454 realwest

Good morning Ward - whoo -Hoo that's the kind of weather report I like to hear!
Hope all is well in the Cleaver household these days?

Yes, everything's okay at our house. Thanks.

461 pingjockey  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:31:38am

re: #440 realwest
Mornin' RW. We're expecting snow showers today. I have to do a diatomacious earth plant today. Think open pit mine. This earth is composed of long dead diatoms and has a high silica content. This silica is used in everything. So I'll be checking extinguishers on earth moving euipment in the snow! Other than that We're all fine!

462 Crux Australis  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:31:39am

re: #404 tfc3rid

Are you ready for 646 Billion for Socilized Health Care?

Liberal dream, this administration is...

We have it in Australia. It's great if you like waiting and waiting and waiting for your "free" operations.

463 smokefire  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:31:54am

re: #430 Chicago Blonde

But it's for the chiiillldrennn...

/Urp.

...yeah and this enormous bill is going to be paid for by the chiiillldddrennn

464 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:32:15am

re: #457 sattv4u2

Somewhere in America there are families that make $225,000-245,000 combined income. When this new tax plan comes into affect,(huge increase for families making $250k +) where is the motivation for that family to do better,, work more,, earn more ,, expand their small business?

I'm going to my sign guy today and see how much it will cost to make bumper stickers that say

PUNISH THE ACHIEVERS ,,, REWARD THE SLACKERS!

I'll take two!

465 pingjockey  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:32:20am

re: #451 Bubblehead II
May do that this year.

466 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:33:06am

re: #449 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops - I dunno, let me check...uh, no, its Thursda! Hang in there big fella - only today and tomorrow and you can get back to your Honey-Do" list! LOL!
How are you doing my friend?

467 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:33:31am

Good morning all!

I'm trying to work up the enthusiasm to drive up to Hades on the Lake (Chicago), deal with the PITA transportation situation (dumping the car outside the city and taking the train in and out), wasting a day of work, ...

... so I can go to the Chicago Tea Party.

I expect there to be a decent crowd of good people surrounded by a vile, angry mass of ACORN organized idiots calling us various names.

/but it's proving tough to work up the interest in dealing with all the stuff in the first paragraph.

468 smokefire  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:33:56am

re: #462 Crux Australis

We have it in Australia. It's great if you like waiting and waiting and waiting for your "free" operations.

...I won't have to pay my bills, I won't have to pay my mortgage, now that Obama is President

SARCASM

469 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:34:03am

re: #464 Ward Cleaver

I'll take two!

Sad thing is, you put one on your car and you'll have libtards coming up to you and saying things like

"I'm with you, man. Those rich people should be paying a lot more"!

470 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:34:06am
471 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:34:08am

re: #450 Chicago Blonde
Hey good morning back to ya Chicago Blonde! How are you doing today? Have you gotten over the shock of Lord President Obama's budget amount yet?!

472 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:36:14am

re: #455 aussiemagpie
Hey {aussie} *Smooches* back to you - uh, you're talking "footy" again aren't you?
Sigh.
Oh well - how are you getting along (or how much of that Chardy is left?!?)?

473 The Hoopster  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:37:05am

re: #466 realwest

Good morning Hoops - I dunno, let me check...uh, no, its Thursda! Hang in there big fella - only today and tomorrow and you can get back to your Honey-Do" list! LOL!
How are you doing my friend?

Doing great...Scanning through the news to see if anything interesting is happening.. I knew it wouldn't be long before Octomom and Dr. Phil got hooked up...

474 chicago blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:37:14am

re: #471 realwest

No, still numb from that. Just fastening my seatbelt as much as I can for the bumpy ride...

OK, now I really do have to go. Goodbye Lizards!

475 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:37:49am
476 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:38:38am

re: #461 pingjockey
Good morning ping! Uh, other than the fact that I only understood maybe every other word in your comment, I gather that you're doing well, and that's what counts!

477 smokefire  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:38:42am

re: #474 chicago blonde

I have to say this

BLOOONNNDDDIEE.

Tuco from The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

478 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:39:34am

re: #457 sattv4u2
I'll buy some.

Did you hear that in addition to the tax increases, they are also calling for a reductions in deductions. So if you make more than 250K, forget deducting mortgage interest, etc.

479 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:40:15am

re: #463 smokefire
Good morning smokefire "yeah and this enormous bill is going to be paid for by the chiiilll llldddrennn and by their chiiildddrennn and by their chillldddrennn too!
There, FTFY!

480 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:40:31am

Good Morning everyone.

481 swamprat  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:41:43am

re: #339 SasquatchOnSteroids

Dengue is mosquito borne...but somehow it is America's fault...

OK then.

482 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:41:48am

re: #472 realwest

Hey {aussie} *Smooches* back to you - uh, you're talking "footy" again aren't you?
Sigh.
Oh well - how are you getting along (or how much of that Chardy is left?!?)?

No, cricket it is this time :-)

Not too much chardy tonight mainly because I forgot to buy some more - so it's coffee just like all of you yesterday morning people! mornpeople

483 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:42:14am
484 rw in san diego  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:42:21am

Good morning, all.

re: #461 pingjockey

Mornin' RW. We're expecting snow showers today. I have to do a diatomacious earth plant today. Think open pit mine. This earth is composed of long dead diatoms and has a high silica content. This silica is used in everything. So I'll be checking extinguishers on earth moving euipment in the snow! Other than that We're all fine!

Huh?

485 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:42:22am

re: #467 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT! Good morning and I sure hope you do make it to the Chicago Tea Party! I hope it's HUGE!
We really need to remind the Democrats Leftists that we're still here and we ain't going anywhere and neither are their stupid plans for the economy!

486 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:42:59am

re: #477 smokefire

I have to say this

BLOOONNNDDDIEE.

Tuco from The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

"Two hundred thousand dollars is a lot of money. We're going to have to earn it."

487 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:43:09am

Today is a good day in history for music.

488 opnion  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:43:34am

re: #467 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

When & where is it?

489 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:44:38am

re: #480 Afrocity
Good morning Afrocity! Hope you're doing well today!
Are you gonna go to the Chicago Tea Party today?!

490 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:44:41am

re: #478 VioletTiger

I'll buy some.

Did you hear that in addition to the tax increases, they are also calling for a reductions in deductions. So if you make more than 250K, forget deducting mortgage interest, etc.

I'll just have to find more 'expenses' for my business so it doesn't make more that $250,000 ...

sheesh, what a 'job creator' ///

491 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:45:03am

re: #484 rw in san diego

He was addressing Real West.

Going dumpster diving over at GoV,JW,DK etal. Be back in a bit.

492 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:45:12am

re: #489 realwest

when is it?

493 VioletTiger  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:45:37am

Have a great day, lizards.
I really have to get back to work.
Cheers!

494 Killer Tomato  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:45:42am

re: #481 swamprat

Dengue is mosquito borne...but somehow it is America's fault...

OK then.

Everything's American's fault!
/

495 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:46:13am

re: #484 rw in san diego
Good morning rw! Thank God I'm not the only one who had that response! LOL! How are you doing today?

496 pingjockey  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:47:29am

re: #476 realwest
Mwahaha! A diatom is a marine organism. Out in in eastern Wa. there was a huge shallow lake and billions of these little dudes lived and died in it. Silica is used for lots of things. The one example is that its mixed in with the cheese that's sprayed on nacho cheese chips. It keeps the cheese from clumping up in the machines.

497 JacksonTn  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:47:42am

There is something I would like to "cram down" Pelosi's throat ...

This "cram down" legislation will do nothing but reward bad behavior and greatly increase bankruptcy filings ...but ...hey, YOU TOO and get that million dollar home ... just file for bankruptcy and the judge will not only adjust your interest rate but also the principal ...I HATE THIS CRAP ...

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

What was I thinking not having a mortgage? ...

498 rw in san diego  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:47:54am

re: #478 VioletTiger

I'll buy some.

Did you hear that in addition to the tax increases, they are also calling for a reductions in deductions. So if you make more than 250K, forget deducting mortgage interest, etc.

Is that true...that the interest on mortgages won't be deductible? My daughter and sil just bought a house.

499 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:48:04am

re: #485 realwest

Hey LT! Good morning and I sure hope you do make it to the Chicago Tea Party! I hope it's HUGE!
We really need to remind the Democrats Leftists that we're still here and we ain't going anywhere and neither are their stupid plans for the economy!

If it's huge, it would be great for the country. My worry is it will fizzle, giving the Libs more ammo to say: "See, there aren't many of those selfish conservatives out there, just like we said." That would be bad.

Unfortunately, unlike the typical unwashed Leftist protester, we have jobs, families, and responsibilities.

/But I do remember the "riotous" mob in the 2000 recount in Florida (15 clean cut Republicans actually standing up for themselves) that put the fear of God into the Libs in whatever building that was that they were trying to pull a fast one on the recount. Nothing scarier that a white guy in a suit with a briefcase that isn't cowering in the corner. :-)

500 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:48:23am

re: #488 opnion

When & where is it?

Daley Plaza, 11 to 12:20. Friday.

501 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:48:34am

re: #495 realwest

{real}!
Good morning, sugar, and *smoochies* to you.
:D

502 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:48:47am

Dog person.re: #441 Irish Rose

Happened to me last year. My cousin called me.

Filled out the paperwork.

2 claims.

$80.00. Had a very nice meal.

503 Bloodnok  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:48:54am

re: #487 MandyManners

Today is a good day in history for music.

And yesterday George Harrison would have been 66. RIP, George.

504 rw in san diego  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:48:58am

re: #491 Bubblehead II

I know he was. I found his description as undecipherable as realwest did!

505 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:49:42am

re: #487 MandyManners

Today is a good day in history for music.

Do tell. Invention of the Gibson Les Paul?

506 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:49:48am

re: #498 rw in san diego

Is that true...that the interest on mortgages won't be deductible? My daughter and sil just bought a house.

The amount of the interest you can deduct will be reduced, but I think it's for people with combined income of over 250K. Haven't seen the details yet, sorry

507 opnion  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:50:07am

re: #500 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Daley Plaza, 11 to 12:20. Friday.

Damn! I have a meeting

508 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:50:44am

Gah, knew I shouldn't've posted it at 3AM, now its off the front page:
Breaking: Sighted: Largest yet flock of FLYING PIGS!
Your text to link...
(AP Fisks Obama speech. Not kidding. Someone must have fired up the Infinite Improbability Drive.)

509 pingjockey  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:50:49am

re: #504 rw in san diego
Y'all did go to school right? You know what a diatom is? Diatomacious earth is made up of billions of dead diatoms! Easy. :)

510 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:50:50am

re: #507 opnion

Damn! I have a meeting

That's the problem. Most conservatives have jobs and commitments!

511 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:51:06am

re: #507 opnion

Damn! I have a meeting

Unfortunately, that is exactly what will kill the movement. People with actual responsibilities.

Slackers win by default.

512 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:51:27am

PIMF sorry 'bout the mess.

513 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:51:32am

re: #492 Afrocity
Well, according to Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) at #467 I believe it's today!
And I'm doing well, thanks!

514 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:51:38am

re: #511 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Unfortunately, that is exactly what will kill the movement. People with actual responsibilities.

Slackers win by default.

Unless all of us start shrugging.

515 Killer Tomato  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:51:48am

re: #499 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

This is why I do not understand why these things can't be held on a weekend. Those of us that are luck enough to still have jobs are working, and in this environment we sure as heck can't be taking time off to go to some political event!
I suppose there's a good reason but I don't know what - I just never took Protesting 101.

516 pingjockey  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:51:49am

Later folks.

517 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:52:36am

re: #513 realwest

Well, according to Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) at #467 I believe it's today!
And I'm doing well, thanks!

Nope, Friday.

If it were today, I'd need to already be on the road.

518 rw in san diego  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:52:40am

re: #506 sattv4u2

Thanks. They're not in that category, yet.

519 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:52:43am

re: #515 Killer Tomato

This is why I do not understand why these things can't be held on a weekend. Those of us that are luck enough to still have jobs are working, and in this environment we sure as heck can't be taking time off to go to some political event!
I suppose there's a good reason but I don't know what - I just never took Protesting 101.

I suppose the news coverage is not as good on the weekend as a week day.
Just a guess.

520 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:53:22am

re: #514 Leonidas Hoplite

Unless all of us start shrugging.

We can't seem to work up the energy to shrug for a day. :-)

521 rw in san diego  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:53:25am

re: #509 pingjockey

Y'all did go to school right? You know what a diatom is? Diatomacious earth is made up of billions of dead diatoms! Easy. :)

Yes, I went to school...about a hundred years ago!

522 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:54:46am

re: #515 Killer Tomato

This is why I do not understand why these things can't be held on a weekend. Those of us that are luck enough to still have jobs are working, and in this environment we sure as heck can't be taking time off to go to some political event!
I suppose there's a good reason but I don't know what - I just never took Protesting 101.

Well, it is over the lunchtime, at least. I guess it was done that way to allow workers in the city a chance to participate.

Nobody would be there on Saturday. (I guess, I wish it was the weekend, too, I know another guy up there that could go if that was the case.)

523 Killer Tomato  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:54:51am

re: #519 redstateredneck

Like they'd cover it.

524 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:55:06am

re: #515 Killer Tomato

This is why I do not understand why these things can't be held on a weekend. Those of us that are luck enough to still have jobs are working, and in this environment we sure as heck can't be taking time off to go to some political event!
I suppose there's a good reason but I don't know what - I just never took Protesting 101.

Because protest organizers have observed that Ordained News Reporters and Ordained Photojournalists and Ordained Videographers...all take the weekend off. Also, the target audience, people who get their news from television, don't watch the TV on weekends.

Just my theory, untested.

525 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:55:28am

re: #422 Ward Cleaver

Ok, I'm still struggling to understand this pseudo-controversy.

For 8 years it was not only acceptable in liberal circles, but the height of wit to call the President of the United States "Chimpy". Nobody worried it might be racist or personally offensive. In fact, they liked the fact the nick-name was offensive.

But today a newspaper ran a cartoon which made no reference to the current POTUS, but included a chimpanzee and a reference to a recent news story about a chimp that ran a muck and attacked a human. Suddenly, all those liberal, formerly chuckling over their tired "Chimpy" jokes are shocked, offended and outraged? Conveniently arranged outrage if you ask me.

Give me a fricken' break.

526 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:55:38am

re: #523 Killer Tomato

Like they'd cover it.


This is true.

527 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:56:01am

re: #519 redstateredneck

What you said. I had to be wordier. :)

528 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:56:07am

re: #499 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT - is that Chicago Tea Party today? And where and what time? Despite having jobs (for the moment) I really hope a huge MOB of folks show up for this - Pelosi, Obama and Reid (aka the Three Stooges) are just outta their effin' minds!
So for those who've asked and who live the the greater Chicagoland area, when and where is the Tea Party?

529 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:56:21am

Oh boy... here comes Barry.

Watch the DOW drop.

/First thing: Good news, you can be unemployed with fewer worries. You just can't make this crap up.

530 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:56:56am

re: #525 Kenneth

Anything derogatory about the one will be twisted into racism.

531 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:57:33am

re: #518 rw in san diego

Thanks. They're not in that category, yet.

See my #457. There'll now be no incentive for anyone to aspire to that category

532 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:57:34am

re: #527 Taqiyyotomist

What you said. I had to be wordier. :)

I'm a Reader's Digest condensed poster.

533 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:57:39am

re: #528 realwest

Hey LT - is that Chicago Tea Party today? And where and what time? Despite having jobs (for the moment) I really hope a huge MOB of folks show up for this - Pelosi, Obama and Reid (aka the Three Stooges) are just outta their effin' minds!
So for those who've asked and who live the the greater Chicagoland area, when and where is the Tea Party?

Dowtown Chicago, Daley Plaza specifically, 11am to 12:20pm Friday.

534 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:57:44am

Good morning real!

Thanks for the email, always appreciated.

You're looking chipper this morning!

535 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:58:41am

re: #501 redstateredneck
Hey there {red} - good morning sugah! *smoochies and hugs back to you! How are things going for you today?

536 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:59:22am

re: #530 redstateredneck

Actually, the cartoon was directed at Timmy the Treasury Secretary. The cartoon ran the day after Timmy's abysmal performance unveiling his program.

537 FrogMarch  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:59:41am

Good morning fine lizards.

Tax the rich and see if they create jobs.

538 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 6:59:42am

re: #504 rw in san diego

Oh, ok. :-)

Pam is in her usual meltdown mode over at Atlas. I loved this statement about Gert (Ban the Koran) Wilders.

Wilders, the foremost defender of free speech in the modern age, (HA!) will deliver an address at a reception at the Omni Shoreham Hotel, site of CPAC, Conservative Political Action Conference,

539 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:00:15am

Obama... the first president to never be able to talk in public without a teleprompter.

Amazing.

540 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:00:23am

re: #532 redstateredneck

Obama could learn from you.

Obama speech, condensed:
"Fellow Americans, some of you have money. We Democrats want it. Let me be clear. We're going to take that money."

541 rw in san diego  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:00:40am

re: #495 realwest

Good morning, realwest. Hope you and your mother are doing well. It's a gorgeous morning here...too bad I have to start getting ready for work. :>(
Have a great day, everyone.

542 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:00:48am

The 2% Illusion

Consider the IRS data for 2006, the most recent year that such tax data are available and a good year for the economy and "the wealthiest 2%." Roughly 3.8 million filers had adjusted gross incomes above $200,000 in 2006. (That's about 7% of all returns; the data aren't broken down at the $250,000 point.) These people paid about $522 billion in income taxes, or roughly 62% of all federal individual income receipts. The richest 1% -- about 1.65 million filers making above $388,806 -- paid some $408 billion, or 39.9% of all income tax revenues, while earning about 22% of all reported U.S. income.

But let's not stop at a 42% top rate; as a thought experiment, let's go all the way. A tax policy that confiscated 100% of the taxable income of everyone in America earning over $500,000 in 2006 would only have given Congress an extra $1.3 trillion in revenue. That's less than half the 2006 federal budget of $2.7 trillion and looks tiny compared to the more than $4 trillion Congress will spend in fiscal 2010. Even taking every taxable "dime" of everyone earning more than $75,000 in 2006 would have barely yielded enough to cover that $4 trillion.

543 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:00:52am

re: #535 realwest

Hey there {red} - good morning sugah! *smoochies and hugs back to you! How are things going for you today?


So far things are going pretty well, but you just know some a-hole will come along and blow it for me!
Actually, I was in such a good mood I was sitting at my desk singing, but I was informed by a co-worker that my chipperness was not appreciated!
Guess I was his a-hole!
;-)

544 FrogMarch  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:01:17am

re: #537 FrogMarch


Tax the rich and see if they create jobs.

But let's not stop at a 42% top rate; as a thought experiment, let's go all the way. A tax policy that confiscated 100% of the taxable income of everyone in America earning over $500,000 in 2006 would only have given Congress an extra $1.3 trillion in revenue. That's less than half the 2006 federal budget of $2.7 trillion and looks tiny compared to the more than $4 trillion Congress will spend in fiscal 2010. Even taking every taxable "dime" of everyone earning more than $75,000 in 2006 would have barely yielded enough to cover that $4 trillion.

545 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:01:39am

re: #534 Kenneth Hey Kenneth, morning back to you - thanks for that video! Didja know that on the original recored, Eric Clapton played the guitar weeping part? Yep, George wasn't sure he could really do it justice by himself - even though Eric told him he could!
Love the song though!

546 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:02:34am

re: #539 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Obama... the first president to never be able to talk in public without a teleprompter.

Amazing.

With his head stuck firmly between his cheeks it must be pretty uncomfortable with a teleprompter stuck there as well.

547 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:02:56am

PLEASE READ:

The son of David Cameron in the UK has passed away. A friend sent me this. Please take a few moments to read this very moving story.

548 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:02:57am

re: #509 pingjockey

Y'all did go to school right? You know what a diatom is? Diatomacious earth is made up of billions of dead diatoms! Easy. :)

So you're saying kitty litter is sprayed onto cheese chips?

Hi there pingjockey :-)

549 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:03:35am

Obama is going to intentionally take on all the criticisms of anyone in the current government. Kinda like Jesus with the sins of the world, only different. Call someone in his new administration a chimp, he'll selflessly take on the insult, and he will himself become the victim, in a bizarre twist of propitiation and self-sacrifice.

550 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:03:40am

He could easily be replaced by an animatron.

George Soros' animatron.

/err... wait...

551 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:05:29am

re: #540 Taqiyyotomist

Obama could learn from you.

Obama speech, condensed:
"Fellow Americans, some of you have money. We Democrats want it. Let me be clear. We're going to take that money."

He may be able to handle that speech without the aid of a teleprompter.

552 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:06:02am

re: #549 Taqiyyotomist


Waiting for the time when he rises from the dead after 3 days in the cave.

553 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:06:17am

Good morning from the Land of Larceny (my new slogan for the State of Illinois).

I saw that Burris's kid got a job working for Blago before Burris got hsi Senate seat. Now they're working out a way to have a special election for the seat (of course, after the Porkulus bill was passed).

Here's something that Charles might be able to use in a post. I discovered it while reading through one of the newspapers I check most days. It's a letter to the editor, but a decent one, IMHO.

People of faith can see evolution as inspirational

Much ink has been used to discuss, on these pages, the fight between evolution and the Bible. It is a false fight. God clearly used evolution - it is how He created this world. It is a self-lie to say different.

The Bible, for its part, rightly pictures a good and orderly world from the beginning.

In due time, everybody of any sense at all will admit it is a lie to deny evolution - a denial of a God-given mind. This self-deception, in the end, denies God as our Father, worships ourselves as superior to the plain truth - sometimes rationalizing it as a ``theory'' - and twists the Bible's Book of Faith to make it teach science.

People with two eyes can see that. With our science's eye, we see a God who takes His time, develops a universe of vast diversity and inspires awe with the vastness of space and time. That is science. To people of faith, evolution is inspirational.

With our other eye, equally important, we see a Father who creates constantly a wonderful, good world - entrusting it to our stewardship and fellowship, a world of human beings and in need of redemption.

Why deny the truth of both?

There is no reason for people of faith not to find inspiration in it. Mainstream Christians (Catholics, Orthodox, etc) have, why not others?

554 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:06:39am

re: #551 redstateredneck

He may be able to handle that speech without the aid of a teleprompter.

He could write that on the palm of his hand, or even his shirtsleeve...

555 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:07:40am

I just made a comment on American Thinker about Michelle Obama's real shopping passions and you guessed it - it's NOT TARGET OR J CREW.

556 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:07:41am

re: #543 redstateredneck
Maybe not - what were you singing? Maybe he just didn't care for the song?!

557 FrogMarch  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:07:50am

re: #553 Honorary Yooper

Nice find.

558 McJenny50  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:08:19am

Just mentioning that I have a new granddaughter, Aspen Elizabeth Hazel, who arrived at 11:58 PM. :)

559 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:08:31am

re: #555 Afrocity

I just made a comment on American Thinker about Michelle Obama's real shopping passions and you guessed it - it's NOT TARGET OR J CREW.

K-Mart?

560 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:08:40am

re: #547 WriterMom

PLEASE READ:

The son of David Cameron in the UK has passed away. A friend sent me this. Please take a few moments to read this very moving story.

Thanks for posting. What a blessing he was in his short life.

561 Killer Tomato  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:09:01am

re: #559 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

K-Mart?

Dollar Store!

562 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:09:06am

re: #558 McJenny50

Hazel Tov! ;)

563 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:09:21am

re: #548 aussiemagpie

So you're saying kitty litter is sprayed onto cheese chips?

Hi there pingjockey :-)

I'm off Doritos now.
:-p

564 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:09:40am

re: #547 WriterMom

PLEASE READ:

The son of David Cameron in the UK has passed away. A friend sent me this. Please take a few moments to read this very moving story.

Wow, what a touching story. Quite amazing these days, considering how the value of life has diminished.

565 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:09:41am

re: #561 Killer Tomato

Dollar Store!

That would explain the Giant Black Widow Spider dress from Election Night.

566 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:09:48am

re: #558 McJenny50

Congrats to you and yours on your new bundle of joy

567 Killer Tomato  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:09:58am

re: #558 McJenny50

Best wishes! What a lovely name!

568 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:10:09am

re: #558 McJenny50

Just mentioning that I have a new granddaughter, Aspen Elizabeth Hazel, who arrived at 11:58 PM. :)

Congratulations!

569 Beach Lover  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:10:37am

Morning, Lizards! What's happenin?

570 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:10:39am

re: #565 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That would have been a disgrace to Sally's.

571 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:10:56am

re: #555 Afrocity

Got any links about her shopping fixes? Anything actually documented that proves she's not at Fileen's Basement?

572 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:11:12am

re: #555 Afrocity

I just turned on our UPS guy to American Thinker. He's union, wanted to know why I consider our president to be a Communist. I directed him to google "Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis." That article should be required reading for the nation.

573 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:11:18am

re: #570 soxfan4life

Sally's ?

574 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:11:49am

re: #564 Ward Cleaver

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7909562.stm

re: #560 redstateredneck

Yes, I posted it because I only heard about him through a friend who sent me the link.

575 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:11:51am

re: #558 McJenny50

Just mentioning that I have a new granddaughter, Aspen Elizabeth Hazel, who arrived at 11:58 PM. :)

Congrtats!

Are the parents conservative? If not, volunteer to do ALL the babysitting (teaching) you can !

576 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:11:53am

re: #573 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Salvation Army thrift stores.

577 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:12:06am

re: #554 aussiemagpie

He could write that on the palm of his hand, or even his shirtsleeve...

HAHA! I can just picture him trying to covertly look at his hand...like the fake hand to the forehead gesture for a quick peek at the palm!

578 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:12:14am

re: #555 Afrocity

I just made a comment on American Thinker about Michelle Obama's real shopping passions and you guessed it - it's NOT TARGET OR J CREW.

Fallas Paredes?

579 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:12:28am

re: #571 WriterMom

Got any links about her shopping fixes? Anything actually documented that proves she's not at Fileen's Basement?

Writer call Ikram in Chicago. We all know she shops there. My personal shopper said it.

Michelle put her real wardrobe "away" when she hit the campaign trail.

580 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:12:43am

re: #576 soxfan4life

lol...

581 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:12:46am

Oh fart. Sorry-Ward, my comment was meant to be-yes it's very shocking considering the UK has had some pretty bad stories lately.

582 opnion  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:12:51am

Conversaion between a Marine F-18 Superhpornet & the Iranian Air Defense. Identify yourself.
Iranian Air Defense Radar: "Unknown aircraft you are in Iranian Air Space."
Aircraft: This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi airspace.
Air Defense Radar: "You are in Iranian airspace. If you do not depart our airspace we will launch interceptor aircraft."
Aircraft: This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send em up I'll wait."
Air defense Radar: (no response...total silence.)

583 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:13:04am

re: #556 realwest

Maybe not - what were you singing? Maybe he just didn't care for the song?!


ummm, "It's a Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood"...

584 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:13:22am

re: #553 Honorary Yooper
Good morning HY! It's what I've been saying all along out here (or, more accurately, Lalo Stinky "Belief in God does not preclude belief in Evolution; Belief in Evolution does not preclude belief in God").
Hey are y'all gonna get a chance to attend the Chicago Tea Party tomorrow in Chicago at Daley Plaza,
11:00 AM-12:20PM?!

585 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:13:50am

re: #572 Taqiyyotomist

They could re-do the whole article and call it "Mayor Nagin, Gov. Landreau, NPR, and the strategy of manufactured crisis."

NPR still has a daily, twice daily, mention of Katrina. Still milking the manufactured crisis.

586 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:14:29am

re: #558 McJenny50

Just mentioning that I have a new granddaughter, Aspen Elizabeth Hazel, who arrived at 11:58 PM. :)

How wonderful!

587 FrogMarch  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:14:49am

Sales of Atlas Shrugged are, reportedly, soaring

4 more years. We must get Obama out. He is a disaster. We will.

588 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:14:52am

re: #579 Afrocity

Ikram...looks pretty swish. Are you in Chicago? That would make a pretty neat story if someone was willing to go on record.

589 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:15:01am

re: #569 Beach Lover

Morning, Lizards! What's happenin?

{ { {BEACHIE} } }!

'sup, girl?

590 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:15:02am

re: #579 Afrocity

Writer call Ikram in Chicago. We all know she shops there. My personal shopper said it.

Michelle put her real wardrobe "away" when she hit the campaign trail.

Geeze, and to think most of my stuff is from Penney's, Carson's, or Sears with some older stuff from Field's (Muck Facy's).

591 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:15:22am

re: #584 realwest

Good morning HY! It's what I've been saying all along out here (or, more accurately, Lalo Stinky "Belief in God does not preclude belief in Evolution; Belief in Evolution does not preclude belief in God").
Hey are y'all gonna get a chance to attend the Chicago Tea Party tomorrow in Chicago at Daley Plaza,
11:00 AM-12:20PM?!

Where's Dusty? He should be in on this... and give me a place to park my car. :-)

592 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:15:26am

re: #582 opnion

Conversaion between a Marine F-18 Superhpornet & the Iranian Air Defense. Identify yourself.
Iranian Air Defense Radar: "Unknown aircraft you are in Iranian Air Space."
Aircraft: This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi airspace.
Air Defense Radar: "You are in Iranian airspace. If you do not depart our airspace we will launch interceptor aircraft."
Aircraft: This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send em up I'll wait."
Air defense Radar: (no response...total silence.)

Meanwhile, several Iranian pilots had to change their underwear.

593 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:15:35am

re: #558 McJenny50

Lovely! Congrats.

594 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:15:39am

re: #558 McJenny50 Hey, Mazel Tov on the birth of your grandaughter! Is she the first grandchild for you?

595 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:15:44am

re: #584 realwest

Good morning HY! It's what I've been saying all along out here (or, more accurately, Lalo Stinky "Belief in God does not preclude belief in Evolution; Belief in Evolution does not preclude belief in God").
Hey are y'all gonna get a chance to attend the Chicago Tea Party tomorrow in Chicago at Daley Plaza,
11:00 AM-12:20PM?!

Will Chucky call out the riot squad?

/the whole world is watching, the whole world is watching...

596 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:16:03am

re: #537 FrogMarch

Good morning fine lizards.

Tax the rich and see if they create jobs.


President Obama has laid out the most ambitious and expensive domestic agenda since LBJ, and now all he has to do is figure out how to pay for it. On Tuesday, he left the impression that we need merely end "tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of Americans," and he promised that households earning less than $250,000 won't see their taxes increased by "one single dime."

And Spendulus doesn't have a single earmark.

F***ers.

597 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:16:49am

Hi, everyone.

It's grey, foggy, and kind of icky outside in the middle of Illinois. I think it's raining, but as I have no windows in my office, I can't tell for sure.

A good day to spend indoors, that's for sure.

598 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:16:57am

re: #584 realwest

Good morning HY! It's what I've been saying all along out here (or, more accurately, Lalo Stinky "Belief in God does not preclude belief in Evolution; Belief in Evolution does not preclude belief in God").
Hey are y'all gonna get a chance to attend the Chicago Tea Party tomorrow in Chicago at Daley Plaza,
11:00 AM-12:20PM?!

No, unfortunately, I work over 20 miles away from the Loop and drive to work everyday (there's no train or bus that goes between work and home).

599 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:17:19am

re: #588 WriterMom

Ikram...looks pretty swish. Are you in Chicago? That would make a pretty neat story if someone was willing to go on record.

Cha-ching!

600 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:17:23am

re: #569 Beach Lover

Good morning Beach Lover! Just the usual - trying to understand the madness that is Obama! Oh and McJenny50 just had a grandaughter!

601 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:17:25am

re: #590 Honorary Yooper

I do the Wal-Mart thing, usually. Interesting, isn't it, they have a line of Chinese-made clothes called "Faded Glory"...it's almost as if even Wal-Mart is laughing at us.

602 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:17:41am

re: #540 Taqiyyotomist

Obama could learn from you.

Obama speech, condensed:
"Fellow Americans, some of you have money. We Democrats want it. Let me be clear. We're going to take that money." Be happy!

You forgot one bit.

603 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:17:55am

re: #595 Ward Cleaver

Will Chucky call out the riot squad?

/the whole world is watching, the whole world is watching...

He might, but the cops are on our side... plus the Tea Party website suggests the protesters tell the cops "thank you" for being there and so on.

That ought to be a real change of pace from the usual vile lefty mob of misfits.

604 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:18:01am

re: #563 redstateredneck

I'm off Doritos now.
:-p

Hints on serving kitty litter chips

Just dip them in the salsa and you won't notice it :-)

Serve them in a kitty litter tray at the next party - plenty of room for salsa and dips in there too

Recycle - leftover stale Doritos - crumble and use as instant kitty litter

605 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:18:21am

re: #588 WriterMom

Ikram...looks pretty swish. Are you in Chicago? That would make a pretty neat story if someone was willing to go on record.

They have gone on the record. Google Michelle Obama and Ikram.

606 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:20:04am

re: #545 realwest

Yes, I did hear that. In fact, that song was not the only thing of George's that Eric played...(thinking of Pattie Boyd)

607 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:20:16am

re: #583 redstateredneck
ROFL! HEY, I'd a said something to you about that one! LOL!

608 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:20:29am

re: #597 vxbush

Hey, {VX}, Sorry you've got icky weather.

609 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:20:33am

Everybody blames George Bush for Profligate spending, and he did, but this is ridiculous.

Official: Obama budget sees $1.75 trillion deficit this year

Again, where are you getting the money for your Obamatopia, Mr. President?

610 Beach Lover  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:21:08am

re: #589 redstateredneck
I'm exahused...was up till after 2 AM looking at facebook. Just signed up and got immersed looking at a group of friends from daughters middle school. Lots of photos etc. mind you that was almost 25 yrs ago! Too funny...and I couldn't stop reading. that can be addicting, me thinks.

611 albusteve  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:21:52am

re: #606 Kenneth

Yes, I did hear that. In fact, that song was not the only thing of George's that Eric played...(thinking of Pattie Boyd)

Layla

612 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:22:15am

re: #609 acwgusa

Everybody blames George Bush for Profligate spending, and he did, but this is ridiculous.

Official: Obama budget sees $1.75 trillion deficit this year

Again, where are you getting the money for your Obamatopia, Mr. President?

Yes, but children will starve if we cut it... at all. Do you want to starve children?

//

613 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:22:17am

re: #604 aussiemagpie

Recycle - leftover stale Doritos - crumble and use as instant kitty litter


I'm picturing cheesy paw prints leading away from the litterbox!

614 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:22:27am

Not many people did good covers of Beatles songs, but this version of While My Guitar, by the late Jeff Healey is pretty damn good...

615 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:22:33am

re: #597 vxbush

Hi, everyone.

It's grey, foggy, and kind of icky outside in the middle of Illinois. I think it's raining, but as I have no windows in my office, I can't tell for sure.

A good day to spend indoors, that's for sure.

It's supposed to get fairly warm to day too. I think the high's supposed to be something like 55F in Kankakee with lower temps to the north. No fog up our way in Joliet and the SW 'burbs though until you get down to Wilmington or so.

616 UFO TOFU  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:23:04am

re: #572 Taqiyyotomist

I just turned on our UPS guy to American Thinker. He's union, wanted to know why I consider our president to be a Communist. I directed him to google "Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis." That article should be required reading for the nation.

Damn, that's a pretty eye-opening article.

617 phoenixgirl  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:23:21am

ikram puts the "ik" in michelle's wardrobe

618 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:23:25am

re: #610 Beach Lover

I'm exahused...was up till after 2 AM looking at facebook. Just signed up and got immersed looking at a group of friends from daughters middle school. Lots of photos etc. mind you that was almost 25 yrs ago! Too funny...and I couldn't stop reading. that can be addicting, me thinks.

I'm trying to do the facebook thing, but I'm having trouble. I need lessons from my daughters but I don't think they're inclined to help me.

619 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:23:30am

re: #612 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yes, but children will starve if we cut it... at all. Do you want to starve children?

//


Yes, but only enough to create a good, usable crisis.
/

620 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:23:41am

re: #604 aussiemagpie

Recycle - leftover stale Doritos - crumble and use as instant kitty litter

Just keep anyone who has recently smoked a joint away that litter box then.

621 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:23:55am

re: #612 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yes, but children will starve if we cut it... at all. Do you want to starve children?

//

As a heartless, greedy, conservative Republican, yes, yes, I do.

/S.

622 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:23:57am

Geeze from HuffPo or fluffpo.

Michelle Obama displayed her own 'flinty Chicago toughness' on Tuesday night as she braved the cold conditions of February, and looked stunning in a sleeveless blouse at the President's address to Congress. The garment was particularly flattering to her well-toned arms.

I think Michelle's bare arms were in poor taste.

Are they taking kool aid intravenously now at HuffPo. How can these people sleep at night?

623 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:23:59am

re: #591 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Well I'll be sure to mention it to him, but he lives a loong way from Chicago! I do hope you and all LGFer's who can attend that Chicago Tea Party being held tomorrow at Daley Plaza in Chicago, from
11:00AM - 12:20 PM!

624 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:24:13am

re: #609 acwgusa

Everybody blames George Bush for Profligate spending, and he did, but this is ridiculous.

Official: Obama budget sees $1.75 trillion deficit this year

Again, where are you getting the money for your Obamatopia, Mr. President?

The end result is socialism.

625 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:24:21am

Am I too late/early for the fruit cups?

626 subsailor68  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:24:32am

Just up on Drudge:

Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

This, by the way, includes banning "cop killer" rounds (we know them as personal protection rounds). It also includes banning magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, which basically will outlaw your Glocks (or other makes) that hold 15 round mags - like the Glock 19 9mm.

If there are any lizards out there who haven't joined the NRA, it might be a good idea. (And no, I don't work for NRA, and only joined recently.)

627 phoenixgirl  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:24:33am

re: #604 aussiemagpie

Hints on serving kitty litter chips

Just dip them in the salsa and you won't notice it :-)

Serve them in a kitty litter tray at the next party - plenty of room for salsa and dips in there too

Recycle - leftover stale Doritos - crumble and use as instant kitty litter

nice, orange kitty feet all over the house/

628 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:24:35am

re: #617 phoenixgirl

ikram puts the "ik" in michelle's wardrobe

That weird crap from the Paris shows.

629 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:25:10am

re: #624 Ward Cleaver

The end result is socialism.

Even socialism needs OPM. The U.S. is heading down California road with this kind of spending.

630 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:25:10am

re: #582 opnion

Conversaion between a Marine F-18 Superhpornet & the Iranian Air Defense. Identify yourself.
Iranian Air Defense Radar: "Unknown aircraft you are in Iranian Air Space."
Aircraft: This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi airspace.
Air Defense Radar: "You are in Iranian airspace. If you do not depart our airspace we will launch interceptor aircraft."
Aircraft: This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send em up I'll wait."
Air defense Radar: (no response...total silence.)

Please tell me that's true!

And good morning to all.

631 aussiemagpie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:25:18am

Goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!

Tonight's view of OZ for you, and especially for the wine lovers out there...

Barossa Valley

632 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:25:56am

re: #595 Ward Cleaver
Well we can hope! Seriously, most of us still have jobs (thank God) and would have a tough time getting the time off; that's where the LEFTIST'S always beat us, they can turn out hundreds of thousands of folks with nothing better to do! I do hope a whole lotta folks show up for that.

633 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:26:01am

re: #622 Afrocity

I think Michelle's bare arms were in poor taste.

You oppose the right to bare arms? You're on the wrong blog, baby!

/

634 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:26:06am

American Thinker just published my comment, so at least it passed the censors.

635 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:26:07am

re: #622 Afrocity

Are they taking kool aid intravenously now at HuffPo. How can these people sleep at night?

The Flavor Aid* is laced with seditives in the evening.

/*It was Flavor Aid, not Kool Aid.

636 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:26:29am

re: #611 albusteve

Layla

Which was inspired by the poem Layla and Majnun by the Persian poet Nezami.

637 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:26:30am

re: #626 subsailor68

Just up on Drudge:

Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

This, by the way, includes banning "cop killer" rounds (we know them as personal protection rounds). It also includes banning magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, which basically will outlaw your Glocks (or other makes) that hold 15 round mags - like the Glock 19 9mm.

If there are any lizards out there who haven't joined the NRA, it might be a good idea. (And no, I don't work for NRA, and only joined recently.)

I'll go back to my old standby. Tactical shotgun with deer slugs, with buckshot for backup.

638 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:26:34am

re: #582 opnion

Where is that from?

639 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:26:34am

Due to the popularity of the "Survivor" shows, Texas is planning to do one entitled, "Survivor, Texas-Style." The contestants will all start in Dallas , then drive to Waco , Austin , San Antonio , over to Houston and down to Brownsville . They will then proceed up to Del Rio , El Paso , Midland , Odessa , Lubbock , and Amarillo . From there they will go on to Abilene , Fort Worth , and finally back to Dallas .

Each will be driving a pink Volvo with bumper stickers that read: "I'm Gay," "I Love the Dixie Chicks," "Boycott Beef," "I Voted for Obama," "George Strait Sucks," "Hillary in 2012" and "I'm here to confiscate your guns."

The first one to make it back to Dallas alive wins.

640 opnion  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:26:52am

re: #592 Kosh's Shadow

Meanwhile, several Iranian pilots had to change their underwear.

Exactly.

641 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:27:22am

re: #623 realwest

Well I'll be sure to mention it to him, but he lives a loong way from Chicago! I do hope you and all LGFer's who can attend that Chicago Tea Party being held tomorrow at Daley Plaza in Chicago, from
11:00AM - 12:20 PM!

I have a business lunch at that time.

642 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:27:24am
643 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:27:37am

re: #587 FrogMarch

Sales of Atlas Shrugged are, reportedly, soaring

4 more years. We must get Obama out. He is a disaster. We will.

Good, hopefully more people will begin to see the light and spread the word.

644 lobo91  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:27:44am

re: #609 acwgusa

Everybody blames George Bush for Profligate spending, and he did, but this is ridiculous.

Again, where are you getting the money for your Obamatopia, Mr. President?

From McJenny50's new grandaughter, for one.

645 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:28:00am

re: #603 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT - do you have a link to the Tea Party Web site?!

646 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:28:18am

re: #626 subsailor68

"I think that ["Assault weapons" ban] will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S.

Right, because I'm sure that Mexican drug cartels will scrupulously abide by US gun laws.

647 Beach Lover  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:28:20am

re: #600 realwest

Good morning Beach Lover! Just the usual - trying to understand the madness that is Obama! Oh and McJenny50 just had a grandaughter!


morning {real}! and congrats to McJenny50!
Did ya see the article from "American Thinker" on Obama this morning? very detailed and I didn't read it all through as it is one that must be studied in detail and my brain is still a little foggy - %-)

648 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:28:20am

I'm out.

I really wish getting into Daley's fiefdom was not so freaking complicated. Still working on that.

649 abolitionist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:28:31am

I'm still curious about the two men next to the Big O at the podium, at 00:06 to 00:10 into this video - who are they?

/trying to be subtle

650 subsailor68  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:28:45am

re: #637 acwgusa

I'll go back to my old standby. Tactical shotgun with deer slugs, with buckshot for backup.

IIRC, there are some on the left who consider pump shotguns assault weapons. They won't be happy until there's nothing left but - maybe - side-by-sides.

651 albusteve  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:28:56am

re: #636 Kenneth

Which was inspired by the poem Layla and Majnun by the Persian poet Nezami.

I'll be...I did not know that

652 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:28:56am

re: #622 Afrocity

I agree with you about her arms and shoulders, I also think it's in poor taste.

653 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:28:59am

re: #622 Afrocity

Geeze from HuffPo or fluffpo.

Michelle Obama displayed her own 'flinty Chicago toughness' on Tuesday night as she braved the cold conditions of February, and looked stunning in a sleeveless blouse at the President's address to Congress. The garment was particularly flattering to her well-toned arms.

I think Michelle's bare arms were in poor taste.

Are they taking kool aid intravenously now at HuffPo. How can these people sleep at night?

Gees, why don't they just start it :
"I was working the late shift"

They're so in love, they'll just hand 'em anything right now...

654 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:29:11am

re: #612 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yes, but children will starve if we cut it... at all. Do you want to starve children?

//

the whole starvation of children ploy really bugs me. IF (and that's a big iIF) there are children in the US who are starving, it is their parent(s) fault. There are so many programs that all the folks have to do is sign up for them and the kids would be well taken care of.

655 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:29:36am

re: #606 Kenneth
Now, now Kenneth - be nice. I understand that she and Eric only started "seeing " each other after she and George got divorced. Although "Layla" was written by Eric Clapton for Patti!

656 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:29:39am

re: #637 acwgusa

I'll go back to my old standby. Tactical shotgun with deer slugs, with buckshot for backup.

Actually, the best load for self defense is #1 buckshot (preferably plated/buffered). Superior wound ballistics to any other shotgun load, even slugs.

657 Miss Trixie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:29:48am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

It's warmed up enough so that a lot of the last sneaux dump is disappearing and we'll have rain soon. I can almost smell spring from here ...

{realwest} Morning hunnie *smoochie-smooch* Happy to see you today - what snoo?

658 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:30:06am

re: #650 subsailor68

IIRC, there are some on the left who consider pump shotguns assault weapons. They won't be happy until there's nothing left but - maybe - side-by-sides.

Then I resort to using my car as a defensive weapon. Humanity does not lack for ways to kill each other.

659 opnion  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:30:17am

re: #630 Occasional Reader

Please tell me that's true!

And good morning to all.

I can't swear that it is true, I got it in an email.

660 McJenny50  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:30:29am

re: #575 sattv4u2

Conservative parents? Dad is but my daughter is a liberal. I keep working on her but haven't had great success - yet. Go figure, I have 4 daughters, #1 & #3 are conservatives, # 2 & 4 both are Bambi lovers. Where did I go wrong?

661 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:30:31am

re: #639 Pietr

LOL!

662 subsailor68  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:30:43am

re: #646 Occasional Reader

Right, because I'm sure that Mexican drug cartels will scrupulously abide by US gun laws.

Bingo! It makes me crazy when the idea is to ban guns for the regular folks in the mistaken idea that narco-terrorists and other criminals will simply say "oh, gee, guess I'd better give up my weapons".

It makes no sense, and I marvel at the way the gun banners can say things like this with a straight face.

663 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:30:44am

re: #645 realwest

Hey LT - do you have a link to the Tea Party Web site?!

here for the actual event.

and

here for the overall stuff

664 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:30:46am

re: #636 Kenneth

Ha. In Arabic, 'mahjnoun' is crazy...Israelis also use it in slang-what, are you crazy?

("Ma, ata mahjnoun?") It's pretty insulting.

665 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:30:54am

re: #649 abolitionist

I'm still curious about the two men next to the Big O at the podium, at 00:06 to 00:10 into this video - who are they?

/trying to be subtle

The one on the left could be the Japanese PM that was/ is visiting

666 Beach Lover  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:31:02am

re: #618 redstateredneck
how do you think i ended up there? then she had the nerve to post on my wall (?)..."Lord help us...Mom's on facebook"!

667 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:31:15am

re: #626 subsailor68

Eric Holder:

"I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S.

Dude, fuck that when you have gangs in your own backyard in Chicago that use that kind of firepower. Holder is a complete and total idiot.

668 lobo91  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:31:20am

re: #655 realwest

Now, now Kenneth - be nice. I understand that she and Eric only started "seeing " each other after she and George got divorced. Although "Layla" was written by Eric Clapton for Patti!

Looking forward to seeing Clapton and Steve Winwood in June at the Pepsi Center.

Those were some of the fastest selling tickets I ever saw on Ticketmaster last weekend...

669 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:31:27am

re: #622 Afrocity

"Michelle Obama displayed her own 'flinty Chicago toughness' on Tuesday night as she braved the cold conditions of February"

What, did she sleep on the street wearing her simply fabulous sleeveless dress? Or have they turned off the heat in the White House to reduce their carbon footprint?

670 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:31:28am

re: #608 redstateredneck

Hey, {VX}, Sorry you've got icky weather.

I've got icky health today too, but the weather makes it that much worse! :-)
re: #615 Honorary Yooper

It's supposed to get fairly warm to day too. I think the high's supposed to be something like 55F in Kankakee with lower temps to the north. No fog up our way in Joliet and the SW 'burbs though until you get down to Wilmington or so.

Plenty of fog here. We could share with you and still have enough. On days like today I almost have to choose whether to temp merging into traffic on the main highway that runs by my house at close to 70 mph or drive the back way through the country until I get to the light that forces them to stop. Today wasn't so thick that I couldn't merge into traffic, but we've had days here where it was simply too dangerous.

671 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:31:44am

re: #616 UFO TOFU

Damn, that's a pretty eye-opening article.

Especially in light of the rather obvious statements made lately by the current administration, and even Obama himself.

President sets new course for country, calls the economic crisis an opportunity for 'bold action and big ideas'

Seriously, he's quite up-front about this. It's alinskyism, and he's pretty much got the USA so bamboozled and hypnotized that the only f**kin thing he's hiding is the fact the HE CREATED THE CRISIS, and the fact that creating crisis is his MAIN GAME. Biden said, straight up, there's going to be a "manufactured crisis". They don't even really pretend otherwise anymore.

When bankers in the 70's intentionally sparked a run on silver, they went to jail. Miliken went to jail. Skelling went to jail. Keating went to jail. Ken Lay went to jail.

Obama, Dodd, Raines, Pelosi should ALL be in jail. They intentionally took down FannyMae and FreddieMac, to intentionally create a crisis. Their words are all being recorded by history, and I think they WILL end up in jail, or worse, even if it takes decades to convict them.

672 abolitionist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:31:50am

re: #665 sattv4u2

Thanks for that.

673 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:31:57am

re: #660 McJenny50

Conservative parents? Dad is but my daughter is a liberal. I keep working on her but haven't had great success - yet. Go figure, I have 4 daughters, #1 & #3 are conservatives, # 2 & 4 both are Bambi lovers. Where did I go wrong?

You were better off having "odd" children!

674 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:32:11am

re: #622 Afrocity

Geeze from HuffPo or fluffpo.

Michelle Obama displayed her own 'flinty Chicago toughness' on Tuesday night as she braved the cold conditions of February, and looked stunning in a sleeveless blouse at the President's address to Congress. The garment was particularly flattering to her well-toned arms.

I think Michelle's bare arms were in poor taste.

Are they taking kool aid intravenously now at HuffPo. How can these people sleep at night?

They're just showing their stylista side. We all know that Michelle's right to bare arms will not be infringed upon.

675 JohnAdams  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:32:14am

OT: Don't know if y'all have seen this, but it bears repeating:

Marine Recon Report
Marines seem to tell-it-all the best! These types of
guys make our lives livable here at home. God bless the American
riflemen.

Subject: From the Sand Pit
Here is a US Marine who is not afraid to tell it like it
is. Political Correctness doesn't mean beans to this tough young
warrior.

From a Recon Marine in Afghanistan
"It's freezing here. I'm sitting on hard, cold dirt
between rocks and shrubs at the base of the Hindu Kush Mountains along
the Dar 'yoi Pomir River watching a hole that leads to a tunnel that
leads to a cave. Stake out, my friend, and no pizza delivery for
thousands of miles.

I also glance at the area around my ass every ten to
fifteen seconds to avoid another scorpion sting. I've actually given up
battling the chiggers and sand fleas, but them scorpions give a jolt
like a cattle prod. Hurts like a bastard. The antidote tastes like
transmission fluid but God bless the Marine Corps for the five vials of
it in my pack.

The one truth the Taliban cannot escape is that, believe
it or not, they are human beings, which means they have to eat food and
drink water.. That requires couriers and that's where an old bounty
hunter like me comes in handy. I track the couriers, locate the tunnel
entrances and storage facilities, type the info into the handheld, shoot
the coordinates up to the satellite link that tells the air commanders
where to drop the hardware, we bash some heads for a while, then I track
and record the new movement.

It's all about intelligence. We haven't even brought in
the snipers yet. These scurrying rats have no idea what they're in for.
We are but days away from cutting off supply lines and allowing the
eradication to begin.

I dream of bin Laden waking up to find me standing over
him with my boot on his throat as I spit into his face and plunge my
nickel plated Bowie knife through his frontal lobe. But you know me.
I'm a romantic. I've said it before and I'll say it again: This
country
blows, man. It's not even a country. There are no roads, there's no
infrastructure, there's no government. This is an inhospitable, rock
pit shit hole ruled by eleventh century warring tribes. There are no
jobs here like we know jobs.

Afghanistan offers two ways for a man to support his
family: join the opium trade or join the army. That's it. Those are
your options. Oh, I forgot, you can also live in a refugee camp and eat
plum-sweetened, crushed beetle paste and squirt mud like a goose with
stomach flu if that's your idea of a party. But the smell alone of
those 'tent cities of the walking dead' is enough to hurl you into the
poppy fields to cheerfully scrape bulbs for eighteen hours a day.

I've been living with these Tajiks and Uzbeks and
Turkmen and even a couple of Pushtins for over a month and a half now
and this much I can say for sure: These guys, all of 'em, are
Huns...actual, living Huns. They LIVE to fight. It's what they do.
It's ALL they do. They have no respect for anything, not for their
families or for each other or for themselves.

They claw at one another as a way of life. They play
polo with dead calves and force their five-year-old sons into human
cockfights to defend the family honor. Huns, roaming packs of savage,
heartless beasts who feed on each other's barbarism. Cavemen with
AK47's. Then again, maybe I'm just cranky.

I'm freezing my ass off on this stupid hill because my
lap warmer is running out of juice and I can't recharge it until the sun
comes up in a few hours.

Oh yeah! You like to write letters, right? Do me a
favor, Bizarre. Write a letter to CNN and tell Wolf and Anderson and
that awful, sneering, pompous Aaron Brown to stop calling the Taliban
'smart.' They are not smart. I suggest CNN invest in a dictionary
because the word they are looking for is 'cunning.' The Taliban are
cunning, like jackals and hyenas and wolverines..
(continued below...)

676 UFO TOFU  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:32:22am

re: #636 Kenneth

Interesting!

677 nyc redneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:32:28am

re: #652 WriterMom

I agree with you about her arms and shoulders, I also think it's in poor taste.

hey WriterMom,
her arms are all she has. seriously, she has to feature them.
to draw attention away from the rest of her.
i just saw the vogue cover at the newsstand this morning.
someone worked over time to make her look half way decent.
and consequently not much like herself.

678 subsailor68  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:33:04am

re: #667 Honorary Yooper

Eric Holder:

Dude, fuck that when you have gangs in your own backyard in Chicago that use that kind of firepower. Holder is a complete and total idiot.

He is also a complete and total disaster.

679 JohnAdams  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:33:26am

Marine Recon (continued...)

They are sneaky and ruthless and, when confronted,
cowardly. They are hateful, malevolent parasites who create nothing and
destroy everything else. Smart.. Pfft. Yeah, they're real smart.

They've spent their entire lives reading only one
book(and not a very good one, as books go) and consider hygiene and
indoor plumbing to be products of the devil. They're still figuring out
how to work a Bic lighter.. Talking to a Taliban warrior about
improving his quality of life is like trying to teach an ape how to hold
a pen; eventually he just gets frustrated and sticks you in the eye with
it.

OK, enough. Snuffle will be up soon so I have to get
back to my hole. Covering my tracks in the snow takes a lot of practice
but I'm good at it. Please, I tell you and my fellow Americans to turn
off the TV sets and move on with your lives.

The story line you are getting from CNN and other news
agencies is utter bullshit and designed not to deliver truth but rather
to keep you glued to the screen through the commercials. We've got this
one under control. The worst thing you guys can do right now is sit
around analyzing what we're doing over here because you have no idea
what we're doing and, really, you don't want to know. We are your
military and we are doing what you sent us
here to do.

You wanna help? Buy Bonds America.

Saucy Jack

Recon Marine in Afghanistan
Semper Fi

"Freedom is not free . . . but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of
your share."
Pacifism is a luxury paid for by warriors Semper Fi

680 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:33:32am

re: #658 acwgusa

Then I resort to using my car as a defensive weapon. Humanity does not lack for ways to kill each other.

Never did. It started with fists and hands. It escalated to sticks and stones. Then became spears and arrows, swords and daggers. Now it's guns and bombs.

The problem isn't the weapons, it's the mentality.

681 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:33:35am

re: #664 WriterMom

That's right. The title of the poem translates as "Layla and the Madman"

682 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:33:37am
683 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:33:44am

re: #634 Afrocity

American Thinker just published my comment, so at least it passed the censors.

Which thread did you post on?

684 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:33:48am

re: #579 Afrocity

Writer call Ikram in Chicago. We all know she shops there. My personal shopper said it.

Michelle put her real wardrobe "away" when she hit the campaign trail.


Personal shopper? I've never quite understood the point of that. I thought women generally LIKED shopping... why would you want to pay someone to do it FOR you?

685 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:34:15am

re: #639 Pietr

LOL! We have better writers of comedy here than the entire TV industry.

686 opnion  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:34:18am

re: #638 WriterMom

Where is that from?

An email. I don't know if it actually happened.

687 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:34:18am

re: #657 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

It's warmed up enough so that a lot of the last sneaux dump is disappearing and we'll have rain soon. I can almost smell spring from here ...

{realwest} Morning hunnie *smoochie-smooch* Happy to see you today - what snoo?

I have some snow and cold here that I'd be happy to send your way. It's currently: Light snow, 7 degrees, with expected highs of 17 degrees.

688 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:34:55am

re: #666 Beach Lover

how do you think i ended up there? then she had the nerve to post on my wall (?)..."Lord help us...Mom's on facebook"!


I hear ya. I'm an embarrassment to my 18 year old. Like I want to creep on her friends...NOT!

689 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:35:05am

re: #660 McJenny50

Conservative parents? Dad is but my daughter is a liberal. I keep working on her but haven't had great success - yet. Go figure, I have 4 daughters, #1 & #3 are conservatives, # 2 & 4 both are Bambi lovers. Where did I go wrong?

You didn't go wrong...sometimes I think its genetic.

690 The Hoopster  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:35:26am

re: #657 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

It's warmed up enough so that a lot of the last sneaux dump is disappearing and we'll have rain soon. I can almost smell spring from here ...

{realwest} Morning hunnie *smoochie-smooch* Happy to see you today - what snoo?


Good Morning Trixie! I'm pining for springtime!

691 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:35:30am

re: #677 nyc redneck

The Vogue cover with her in the purple dress? The media is really trying their damndest to make her THE FIRST LADY WE ALL NEED LOVE WANT DREAM OF etc...but it's just not sticking, is it? You're right. She has her arms-and that's her best part. In fact 'nice arms' is probably the most benign thing I can say about her and still remain [ahem] ladylike!

692 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:35:32am

Battshattery knows no bounds!

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

693 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:35:40am

re: #680 Honorary Yooper

Never did. It started with fists and hands. It escalated to sticks and stones. Then became spears and arrows, swords and daggers. Now it's guns and bombs.

The problem isn't the weapons, it's the mentality.

And, IMO, we will NEVER escape that mentality. I believe it is hardwired for us to fight with each other. Relative periods of peace are an anomaly.

694 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:36:04am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

How are things in Lizardia? Any meltdowns last night?

695 albusteve  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:36:07am

re: #668 lobo91

Looking forward to seeing Clapton and Steve Winwood in June at the Pepsi Center.

Those were some of the fastest selling tickets I ever saw on Ticketmaster last weekend...

a huge problem for me down in ABQ...my road trippin days are about over...I do fly to Texas for shows once in a while...I'm in a rock and roll backwater

696 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:36:31am

re: #686 opnion

Ahh, bummer.

697 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:36:54am

re: #689 Leonidas Hoplite

You didn't go wrong...sometimes I think its genetic.


I have a super hippie friend and his super hippie wife. Their 10 year old son wears a tie to school. A real live Alex P. Keaton.

It is funny as hell.

No. He doesn't wear Jerry Garcia ties either. Black tie, white shirt.

698 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:36:56am

re: #694 yma o hyd

Yid!

LOL. Can't resist...

699 ciaospirit  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:37:06am

re: #622 Afrocity

Geeze from HuffPo or fluffpo.

Michelle Obama displayed her own 'flinty Chicago toughness' on Tuesday night as she braved the cold conditions of February, and looked stunning in a sleeveless blouse at the President's address to Congress. The garment was particularly flattering to her well-toned arms.

I think Michelle's bare arms were in poor taste.

Are they taking kool aid intravenously now at HuffPo. How can these people sleep at night?

So this is what constitutes bravery now. How utterly sad.

700 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:37:26am

re: #677 nyc redneck

hey WriterMom,
her arms are all she has. seriously, she has to feature them.
to draw attention away from the rest of her.
i just saw the vogue cover at the newsstand this morning.
someone worked over time to make her look half way decent.
and consequently not much like herself.

I TOTALLY agree. I thought her make-up looked horrible on the cover and she flaunts those arms constantly. She looks masculine.
Yet Sarah Palin who I think is gorgeous, was only given one photo by Vogue. Cindy McCain is also attractive and got little page space.

701 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:37:35am

re: #697 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have a super hippie friend and his super hippie wife. Their 10 year old son wears a tie to school. A real live Alex P. Keaton.

It is funny as hell.

No. He doesn't wear Jerry Garcia ties either. Black tie, white shirt.

Boy in Black?

/agent k?

702 lobo91  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:37:51am

re: #695 albusteve

Trust me, I know all about it. I grew up in NM, and ended up back there after leaving active duty.

It's so nice to live near a major concert city (Denver) now. I finally get to see all the acts I've missed all these years.

703 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:38:03am

re: #697 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have a super hippie friend and his super hippie wife. Their 10 year old son wears a tie to school. A real live Alex P. Keaton.

It is funny as hell.

No. He doesn't wear Jerry Garcia ties either. Black tie, white shirt.

keeping the articles of clothing pure! he must be a little racist nazi!

//

704 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:38:06am

re: #700 Afrocity

I TOTALLY agree. I thought her make-up looked horrible on the cover and she flaunts those arms constantly. She looks masculine.
Yet Sarah Palin who I think is gorgeous, was only given one photo by Vogue. Cindy McCain is also attractive and got little page space.

She's like Eva Peron.

705 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:38:13am

re: #655 realwest

George was cool with it and even attended their wedding. He & Eric remained life long friends.

706 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:38:32am

re: #692 sattv4u2

Battshattery knows no bounds!

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Jesus Wept.

707 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:38:44am

re: #691 WriterMom

I was at a customer's house the other day. Had a Michelle Obama calendar. Credit was rejected. Anecdotal, but absolutely true. Every house I have been in since November with an Obama picture, pamphlet, calendar, etc has been a credit reject.

Equal opportunity too...both white folks and black folks.

708 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:38:47am

re: #684 Occasional Reader

Personal shopper? I've never quite understood the point of that. I thought women generally LIKED shopping... why would you want to pay someone to do it FOR you?

A personal shopper knows your style and helps you in the dressing room, calls you when things go on sale or that special piece comes in. Personal shoppers are FREE.

709 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:38:59am

re: #692 sattv4u2

Battshattery knows no bounds!

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]


Cripes!

710 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:39:01am

re: #639 Pietr

Because Texans are prone to murdering (e.g.) gays?

Come on.

711 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:39:06am

re: #647 Beach Lover
UH no, no I didn't - do y'all have a link to that article?

712 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:39:57am

re: #708 Afrocity

A personal shopper knows your style and helps you in the dressing room, calls you when things go on sale or that special piece comes in. Personal shoppers are FREE.

Right. They do it basically gratis to build a rep.

713 MJ  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:40:00am

A Letter to York University, Ontario
Your View, February 26th 2009, 2:10 pm

Dr. Mamdouh Shoukri
President and Vice Chancellor, York University,
4700 Keele Street,
Toronto, Ontario M3J 1P3

Wednesday, February 25, 2009.

Dear Dr. Shoukri,

I am Professor of Computational Linguistics at King’s College, London, and I am currently a visiting professor in the Department of Computer Science
at the University of Toronto, where I am on sabbatical for the semester. I was recently invited to give a talk on my research on computational modeling of grammar induction in the Colloquium of the Cognitive Science Program of the Philosophy Department at York, on March 25. I accepted the invitation with great pleasure. I received my BA in Philosophy from York in May 1970, and I welcomed this opportunity to return to my first academic home. It is therefore with considerable regret that I must now withdraw from this engagement in light of the York administration’s handling of the attack on Jewish students that took place on the afternoon of February 11...

Read the whole thing here:
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

714 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:40:14am

re: #683 Ward Cleaver

Which thread did you post on?

American Thinker

715 McJenny50  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:40:15am

re: #594 realwest

Hey, Mazel Tov on the birth of your grandaughter! Is she the first grandchild for you?

Thank you! I have two others, Ella and Jacob (sister and brother). You'd think with 4 daughters I'd have a lot more :)

716 albusteve  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:40:27am

re: #702 lobo91

Trust me, I know all about it. I grew up in NM, and ended up back there after leaving active duty.

It's so nice to live near a major concert city (Denver) now. I finally get to see all the acts I've missed all these years.

I saw ZZ Top at the Sandia casino a coupla years ago...they were so aggressive and animated they just blew the natives away...people were stunned..Hahaha

717 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:40:28am

re: #675 JohnAdams

Flea collars are great in the packages to our troops. The guys put them around their ankles and it keeps away a whole hose of the smaller biting insects. I dont think they will work on the big sand spiders or the scorpions but they have been used to great effect by both my nephews who have been to both theaters.

718 VegasRick  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:40:37am

re: #649 abolitionist

I'm still curious about the two men next to the Big O at the podium, at 00:06 to 00:10 into this video - who are they?

/trying to be subtle

? Wrong link?

719 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:40:40am

re: #639 Pietr

Due to the popularity of the "Survivor" shows, Texas is planning to do one entitled, "Survivor, Texas-Style." The contestants will all start in Dallas , then drive to Waco , Austin , San Antonio , over to Houston and down to Brownsville . They will then proceed up to Del Rio , El Paso , Midland , Odessa , Lubbock , and Amarillo . From there they will go on to Abilene , Fort Worth , and finally back to Dallas .

Each will be driving a pink Volvo with bumper stickers that read: "I'm Gay," "I Love the Dixie Chicks," "Boycott Beef," "I Voted for Obama," "George Strait Sucks," "Hillary in 2012" and "I'm here to confiscate your guns."

The first one to make it back to Dallas alive wins.

That's one of those bad email jokes, that's been going around for as long as Survivor has been on.

720 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:40:47am

re: #700 Afrocity

Sarah Palin is very good looking, and there were quite a number of pictures of her staged as 'stripper' poses-with the photographer literally shooting her calves in heels, with men 'oogling' from the front row of the gathering. Cindy I think is a little stiff-and I don't like women who are part of the 'you can never be too rich or too thin' thing. Michelle's arms are muscular but really that's all she's got. There are a lot of muscular women in Hollyweird lately, it's this no fat/all muscle disgusting thing...look at Madonna lately and there are others. I think it looks gross.

721 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:40:49am

re: #679 JohnAdams

Wow. Thanks for the post.

722 subsailor68  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:40:55am

Oops. Just got a call that I need to "volunteer" to do meals at the Senior Center today. (It's in quotes because my wife is the director.) Be back later.

723 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:41:00am

re: #714 Afrocity

American Thinker

Thanks! I'll go check it out.

724 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:41:03am

re: #684 Occasional Reader

Personal shopper? I've never quite understood the point of that. I thought women generally LIKED shopping... why would you want to pay someone to do it FOR you?

Well, some women may like shopping, but I HATE it. And if I can give someone my dimensions, my problems in shopping, and my color preferences, I would do it in a heartbeat.

725 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:41:22am

re: #708 Afrocity

A personal shopper knows your style favorite calibers and helps you in the dressing roomresolve mag feeding issues, calls you when things go on sale or that special piece [!] comes in. Personal shoppers are FREE.

(I "manned" it up... grrr...)

726 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:41:39am

Gotta run, but other anecdote... ran into an old friend a couple of months ago. We talked about politics, she found out I was a conservative and actually said the following to me, and I quote, "Well, that means you have been successful."

What the fuck are these people thinking?

727 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:42:01am

re: #698 WriterMom

Yid!

LOL. Can't resist...

Don't worry, {WriterMom}!
I take it as a compliment, coming from you!

728 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:42:20am

re: #707 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wal-Mart is selling Obama posters laminated on hardboard. They are flying off the racks. My daughter bought one for her father as a joke. Makes a dandy dart board.

729 albusteve  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:42:35am

re: #726 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gotta run, but other anecdote... ran into an old friend a couple of months ago. We talked about politics, she found out I was a conservative and actually said the following to me, and I quote, "Well, that means you have been successful."

What the fuck are these people thinking?

pie...give me your pie

730 JohnAdams  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:42:44am

re: #709 ilzito guacamolito

Cripes!

Did you see that the Rep from Cali (Stark?) is proposing The One's birthday become a national holiday? Seriously. If you made this stuff up nobody would believe you.

731 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:42:58am

re: #726 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gotta run, but other anecdote... ran into an old friend a couple of months ago. We talked about politics, she found out I was a conservative and actually said the following to me, and I quote, "Well, that means you have been successful."

What the fuck, are these people? thinking?

same words ,,, different sentence!

732 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:43:15am

re: #704 Ward Cleaver

She's like Eva Peron.

Michellita.

733 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:43:50am

re: #720 WriterMom

Sarah Palin is very good looking, and there were quite a number of pictures of her staged as 'stripper' poses-with the photographer literally shooting her calves in heels, with men 'oogling' from the front row of the gathering. Cindy I think is a little stiff-and I don't like women who are part of the 'you can never be too rich or too thin' thing. Michelle's arms are muscular but really that's all she's got. There are a lot of muscular women in Hollyweird lately, it's this no fat/all muscle disgusting thing...look at Madonna lately and there are others. I think it looks gross.

I know. Madonna's hands look worse than my Grandmother's did at age 90.
***
Wow! Am I getting catty. I had better get some work done!

734 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:43:54am

re: #729 albusteve

pie...give me your pie

It's my pie!

735 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:43:57am

re: #659 opnion

I can't swear that it is true, I got it in an email.


Good enought for NYT

736 Pyrocles  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:44:02am

...

Well, that pretty much sums it up. Either this is true, or we're all conspiracy nuts just like the Lefty UFO believers (which is my moonbat wife's opinion of LGF)...

re: #624 Ward Cleaver

The end result is socialism.

737 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:44:11am

re: #707 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was at a customer's house the other day. Had a Michelle Obama calendar. Credit was rejected. Anecdotal, but absolutely true. Every house I have been in since November with an Obama picture, pamphlet, calendar, etc has been a credit reject.

Equal opportunity too...both white folks and black folks.

Excellent!
Congrats on your attitude - I like it.
PB0/Michelle pictures gotta be an indicator for low credit ratings and inability to pay.

738 JohnAdams  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:44:13am

re: #717 Eowyn2

Flea collars are great in the packages to our troops. The guys put them around their ankles and it keeps away a whole hose of the smaller biting insects. I dont think they will work on the big sand spiders or the scorpions but they have been used to great effect by both my nephews who have been to both theaters.

Thanks. What is the best way to get some of those over there.

739 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:44:22am
740 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:44:23am

re: #700 Afrocity

re: #691 WriterMom

She has her arms-and that's her best part.

She's a big woman - not fat, but big - and seems to deliberately try to emphasize that. I don't think she's ugly, by the way - I'd best describe her using the "handsome woman" line - but she seems to want to butch her image up.

741 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:44:44am

re: #730 JohnAdams

Did you see that the Rep from Cali (Stark?) is proposing The One's birthday become a national holiday? Seriously. If you made this stuff up nobody would believe you.

There are multiple reasons both resident Californians and the rest of the nation mock this state.

742 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:44:48am

re: #734 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

WHO WANTS PIE?

743 lobo91  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:44:49am

re: #716 albusteve

I saw ZZ Top at the Sandia casino a coupla years ago...they were so aggressive and animated they just blew the natives away...people were stunned..Hahaha

I saw ZZ Top in Colorado Springs a couple years ago, as well. Great show.

We're going to see Heart next weekend in Denver. Really looking forward to it.

I just got word that Elton John is going to do a solo show in Colorado Springs in April. Unfortunately, I'll be at Ft Bliss on a training mission.

We saw his Vegas show last year, though. Most expensive tickets I ever bough.

744 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:44:55am

re: #657 {Miss Trixie} Hey good morning gorgeous! *Smooches* back to you! Nothing much new here, just trying, unsuccessfully as usual, to try to whip up support for the Chicago Tea Party tomorrow in Chicago.
But a lot of us on the right side of the political spectrum either have jobs or don't live anywhere near Chicago or still have jobs, so it sorta looks like it might be a big bust if you go by LGF.
How are you and Lil Miss doing today?

745 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:45:23am

re: #726 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm conservative and I'm a frikkin dishwasher who shops at Wal-Mart and Save-a-Lot. Grr. Libs are teh stupd.

746 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:45:30am

re: #736 Pyrocles

...

Well, that pretty much sums it up. Either this is true, or we're all conspiracy nuts just like the Lefty UFO believers (which is my moonbat wife's opinion of LGF)...

The UFO's are disguised UN Black helicopters. Duh! Everyone knows that!

/S to the max!

747 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:45:40am

re: #730 JohnAdams

Did you see that the Rep from Cali (Stark?) is proposing The One's birthday become a national holiday? Seriously. If you made this stuff up nobody would believe you.

Smacks of other dictators whose likenesses adorn postage stamps, etc. prior to their deaths.

748 subsailor68  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:46:42am

re: #730 JohnAdams

Did you see that the Rep from Cali (Stark?) is proposing The One's birthday become a national holiday? Seriously. If you made this stuff up nobody would believe you.

I thought you were kidding:

Congressman Proposes Obama's Birthday Become Holiday

And yep, it's that idiot Pete Stark. And even a Republican:

Congressman Stark's proposal is still in the draft phase, but support for the bill has even reached one Republican. Senator Chuck Hagel, (R-NE) who is believed to have voted for Obama in the 2008 Presidential Election, supported the move.

749 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:46:43am

re: #740 Occasional Reader

she seems to want to butch her image up

She's got enough bitch quotient, I guess-now going to butch? GA.

I agree with you about the 'handsome' thing. She's done the best with what she has, she's not delicate at all, but well groomed and confident. I honestly still am having a hard time digesting the fact that she is your First Lady. It's very traumatic!

750 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:46:49am

re: #740 Occasional Reader

re: #691 WriterMom


She's a big woman - not fat, but big - and seems to deliberately try to emphasize that. I don't think she's ugly, by the way - I'd best describe her using the "handsome woman" line - but she seems to want to butch her image up.

So you're saying she has 'a good personality'.

751 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:47:26am

re: #663 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)Thank you LT!

752 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:47:27am

Netanyahu Set to Fight Recession With Repeat Dose of Tax Cuts
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

OBAMA ,, tax increases
NETANYAHU , tax cuts

Guess which country will get out of the recession 1st !?!?!?!

753 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:47:28am

re: #726 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gotta run, but other anecdote... ran into an old friend a couple of months ago. We talked about politics, she found out I was a conservative and actually said the following to me, and I quote, "Well, that means you have been successful."

What the fuck are these people thinking?

Actually, I'd take that as a compliment. You're conservative, hence you don't have your head up your a**, hence this has allowed you to be successful.

754 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:47:32am

re: #728 redstateredneck

Wal-Mart is selling Obama posters laminated on hardboard. They are flying off the racks. My daughter bought one for her father as a joke. Makes a dandy dart board.

Maybe you just found the reason for their popularity.

755 gonecamping  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:47:41am

Just read the article about U2 and the tax shelter for the Band.

It is hypocritical that a lot of those liberals who lecture 'us' about paying 'our fair share' and helping the poor find ways to avoid taxes, or just plain don't pay them.

756 2by2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:47:50am

Morning Lizards,
I don't know whether anyone posted this yet but today is the 16th anniversary of the first attack on the WTC.
from an e-mail I just received from the Nat 9/11 Memorial and Museum:

On this day sixteen years ago, terrorists bombed the World Trade Center killing six people, including a pregnant woman. During the Friday lunch hour on February 26, 1993, a van loaded with 1,500 pounds of explosives was driven into the North Tower's underground public parking garage and left deserted before the bombs detonated. The explosion left a five-story hole in the sub-grade levels of the Towers, and resulted in what was then the largest rescue effort in New York City history.

If terrorists sought to undermine our City’s spirit with this attack, they failed. First responders heroically and decisively took action that day. Thousands of people suffered injuries, but these survivors helped each other to evacuate the building despite overwhelming smoky conditions. City operations were maintained and business tenants began returning to the World Trade offices just one month later.

We also refused to succumb to the terrorists’ attempt to denigrate our value of individual human life. On this day, we stand in solidarity with the survivors who lived through this attack. We recognize that, like the survivors of the 9/11 attacks, they must deal with pain that never entirely goes away. We remember the innocent individuals killed: John DiGiovanni, Robert Kirkpatrick, Stephen Knapp, William Macko, Wilfredo Mercado, and Monica Rodriguez Smith and her unborn child, and offer our condolences to the loved ones they left behind. The National September 11 Memorial & Museum will honor their lives and in doing so demonstrate that our spirit of humanity remains unbroken.

757 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:47:53am

re: #699 ciaospirit

So this is what constitutes bravery now. How utterly sad.

Its amazing how brave you have to be to walk into a room with 900 people with bare arms. It must have been freezing with all those tingly legs and pelosi jumping up and down.

758 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:47:54am

Financial crisis sparks unrest in Europe

As whomevah said, 'we ain't seen nuttin yet,' it's going to be a long.hot.summer.

759 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:48:08am

OMG. I had to google the Michelle Vogue cover, but the headline made me throw up in my mouth a little.
"The First Lady the World's Been Waiting For"

760 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:48:25am

re: #748 subsailor68

I thought you were kidding:

Congressman Proposes Obama's Birthday Become Holiday

And yep, it's that idiot Pete Stark. And even a Republican:

Congressman Stark's proposal is still in the draft phase, but support for the bill has even reached one Republican. Senator Chuck Hagel, (R-NE) who is believed to have voted for Obama in the 2008 Presidential Election, supported the move.

It truly is official. The crazy part of this country is North Korea. Dear Leader Obama signs required in every house yet?

761 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:48:29am

re: #750 ilzito guacamolito

No-I actually wouldn't!

762 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:48:43am

re: #748 subsailor68

I thought you were kidding:

Congressman Proposes Obama's Birthday Become Holiday

And yep, it's that idiot Pete Stark. And even a Republican:

Congressman Stark's proposal is still in the draft phase, but support for the bill has even reached one Republican. Senator Chuck Hagel, (R-NE) who is believed to have voted for Obama in the 2008 Presidential Election, supported the move.

That is truly creepy.

I'll be sending this straight off to liberal acquaintances who have laughed it off when I used the words "Obama" and "personality cult" in the same sentence.

763 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:49:02am

re: #710 Occasional Reader

Because Texans are prone to murdering (e.g.) gays?

Come on.

That was 1 of the stickers listed-I got it from a friend. According to the MFM we Texans are all Racists, who wish to drag black people around tied to our bumpers. Funny thing is, no one even mentions the black nurse who drove home with a white hit and run victim stuck thru her windshield. She waited until he died, then she and her friend disposed of him. True story, Dallas/ft Worth, IIRC, and the trieal is either ongoing, or recently finished...:>((

764 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:49:07am

re: #755 gonecamping

Just read the article about U2 and the tax shelter for the Band.

It is hypocritical that a lot of those liberals who lecture 'us' about paying 'our fair share' and helping the poor find ways to avoid taxes, or just plain don't pay them.

Or they put their money in foreign banks like the Kenndeys

765 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:49:20am

It's going to be a somber, but glad day, when Obama and Dodd and Raines are walked through the gates of prison, when those cellblocks clang shut.

You don't intentionally take down financial systems and then brag about how you're going to use the crisis you created, and get away with it. Obama, you're going to wind up in jail, and then only if you're exceptionally lucky.

766 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:49:21am

re: #760 acwgusa

It truly is official. The crazy part of this country is North Korea. Dear Leader Obama signs required in every house yet?

Yeesh. PIMF. Signs=posters.

767 Miss Trixie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:49:24am

re: #687 Eowyn2

I have some snow and cold here that I'd be happy to send your way. It's currently: Light snow, 7 degrees, with expected highs of 17 degrees.

No thanks just the same. This is the end of February in Canada and March is on the horizon and it's not unusual to have have another monster sneaux-storm or two before spring actually arrives. I'm hoping not this year ... *crosses fingers*

Hoosier

Good Morning Trixie! I'm pining for springtime!

Oh! I'm with you on that one. Last night I was poring over a glossy, cheery Perennial Catalogue and daydreamed over every last beautiful plant that I would happily give a loving home. :D

768 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:49:37am

re: #748 subsailor68

CULT. THREAD THAT LINKY!

769 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:49:52am

re: #762 Occasional Reader

That is truly creepy.

I'll be sending this straight off to liberal acquaintances who have laughed it off when I used the words "Obama" and "personality cult" in the same sentence.


The "O" statue has been commisioned already I heard

770 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:49:55am

re: #753 Occasional Reader

Actually, I'd take that as a compliment. You're conservative, hence you don't have your head up your a**, hence this has allowed you to be successful.

But I am not successful! I am a schmo like mostly everyone else. I have just always felt it would be wise to support the party that supports success.

771 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:50:09am

re: #720 WriterMom

Say what you like, but Michelle Obama has the brow ridges of a Klingon.

With Michelle's muscular mannishness & Obama's foppish dandiness, I'd call them a samish sex couple. Icky.

772 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:50:24am

re: #764 Afrocity

Or they put their money in foreign banks like the Kenndeys

in other words ,, OFF SHORE!
((gratuitous slap at swimmer Ted K))

773 Beach Lover  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:50:25am

re: #711 realwest
oh...hold on

774 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:50:30am

re: #733 ilzito guacamolito

I know. Madonna's hands look worse than my Grandmother's did at age 90.
***
Wow! Am I getting catty. I had better get some work done!

Letting the inner cat have her meows is good for the soul!

:-)

775 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:50:39am

re: #728 redstateredneck

Wal-Mart is selling Obama posters laminated on hardboard. They are flying off the racks. My daughter bought one for her father as a joke. Makes a dandy dart board.

Be careful saying what you use it for.
And under NO circumstances use it as a target.

776 albusteve  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:50:39am

re: #743 lobo91

I saw ZZ Top in Colorado Springs a couple years ago, as well. Great show.

We're going to see Heart next weekend in Denver. Really looking forward to it.

I just got word that Elton John is going to do a solo show in Colorado Springs in April. Unfortunately, I'll be at Ft Bliss on a training mission.

We saw his Vegas show last year, though. Most expensive tickets I ever bough.

my thing is more roots stuff...Little Feat, subdudes, Sonny Landreth, Hiatt...that sort of thing...small venues...I can usually hit a tour somewhere and see a few shows and party with friends...that's how I do it

777 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:50:44am

I have a question for all my Lizard friends. I have been searching for ways to cut back my expenses and am wondering what things all of you are doing to cut back and save, be they little or small.

Some things that I've done:
1) Less driving by trying to combine trips (fewer one off's)
2) More eating in
3) Taking advantage of the public library for books, movies, and music
4) Lowered the thermostat (67 during the day, 62 at night)
5) No more soda & snack for the train ride home
6) No more Starbucks - drink the free stuff in the office

778 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:50:52am

re: #759 redstateredneck

OMG. I had to google the Michelle Vogue cover, but the headline made me throw up in my mouth a little.
"The First Lady the World's Been Waiting For"

Eeeewww! I threw up a lot!

779 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:51:08am

re: #755 gonecamping

Where's that? I've found it hypocritical for liberals to take tax deductions.

780 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:51:24am

re: #775 Kosh's Shadow

Be careful saying what you use it for.
And under NO circumstances use it as a target.

Target? I thought he got it at Wal Mart!

781 Beach Lover  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:51:51am

realwest...here it is
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

782 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:52:06am

Analysis: GOP is at risk of becoming party in the no

Hey look! Gloom and Doom about the GOP from Politico! Shocking, I tell you!

783 aggieann  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:52:20am

re: #759 redstateredneck

OMG. I had to google the Michelle Vogue cover, but the headline made me throw up in my mouth a little.
"The First Lady the World's Been Waiting For"

And keep in mind that that's AFTER the photoshop job.

784 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:52:23am

re: #761 WriterMom

No-I actually wouldn't!

I know. It's just the guy way of saying she's two-bagger.

785 subsailor68  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:52:32am

re: #768 WriterMom

CULT. THREAD THAT LINKY!

Cult is right. And when you think about it, we combined Lincoln and Washinton's birthday into one holiday...

and now they want to give a guy who's been in office about two months his own?

Total, utter, complete, massive, certifiable insanity.

I know how much you love verbosity!

;-)

786 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:52:51am

re: #752 sattv4u2

Netanyahu Set to Fight Recession With Repeat Dose of Tax Cuts
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

OBAMA ,, tax increases
NETANYAHU , tax cuts

Guess which country will get out of the recession 1st !?!?!?!

Thats such an unfair comparison!
Bibi has experience in that job, but PB0 has only started, give him a chance, he'll learn ..

///

787 albusteve  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:53:06am

re: #765 Taqiyyotomist

It's going to be a somber, but glad day, when Obama and Dodd and Raines are walked through the gates of prison, when those cellblocks clang shut.

You don't intentionally take down financial systems and then brag about how you're going to use the crisis you created, and get away with it. Obama, you're going to wind up in jail, and then only if you're exceptionally lucky.

that is my ultimate dream come true...you nailed it

788 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:53:10am

re: #752 sattv4u2

Netanyahu Set to Fight Recession With Repeat Dose of Tax Cuts
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

OBAMA ,, tax increases
NETANYAHU , tax cuts

Guess which country will get out of the recession 1st !?!?!?!

With 0bama's lack of support for Israel, the economy going down the tubes is G-d's revenge.
/Pat Robertson mode off.

789 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:53:17am

re: #760 acwgusa

It truly is official.

Well, sort of... I'm looking for a better source for that story than a website called "jumping in pools" (which I've never heard of). So far, no luck.

790 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:53:20am

re: #774 yma o hyd

Letting the inner cat have her meows is good for the soul!

:-)


Grassyass!

791 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:53:49am

re: #714 Afrocity

American Thinker

Good post there!

792 abolitionist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:53:56am

re: #718 VegasRick

? Wrong link?

No, direct link to SevenLoad instead of HotAir. Apparently, Japanese PM Tara Aso is to the left (BHO's right), on or about 24 Feb. Other guy seems to have a prayer bump, so I was curious/concerned about who he is.

793 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:54:16am

re: #777 Leonidas Hoplite

I have a question for all my Lizard friends. I have been searching for ways to cut back my expenses and am wondering what things all of you are doing to cut back and save, be they little or small.

Some things that I've done:
1) Less driving by trying to combine trips (fewer one off's)
2) More eating in
3) Taking advantage of the public library for books, movies, and music
4) Lowered the thermostat (67 during the day, 62 at night)
5) No more soda & snack for the train ride home
6) No more Starbucks - drink the free stuff in the office

Sorry, no help here! Wifey and I have decided to not participate in this "recession". We were out yesterday looking at new washer/ dryers. Last week, we had our kitchen counters measured for granite tops. Last month I got a new SUV. next month I write a check for our sons 2009-2010 private school tuition!

Summer vacation travel plans are also being made

794 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:54:17am

re: #763 Pietr

That was 1 of the stickers listed-I got it from a friend. According to the MFM we Texans are all Racists

Okay, but why perpetuate that stereotype by telling jokes that imply that Texans willfully murder people who are "different"?

795 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:54:36am

re: #789 Occasional Reader

Well, sort of... I'm looking for a better source for that story than a website called "jumping in pools" (which I've never heard of). So far, no luck.

It wouldn't surprise me, given the absolute knee-pad job given to Obama by the media and the less intellectual voters conned by hope and change.

796 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:54:46am

re: #728 redstateredneck

Wal-Mart is selling Obama posters laminated on hardboard. They are flying off the racks. My daughter bought one for her father as a joke. Makes a dandy dart board.

Wow, what a great Guerilla Marketing opportunity.
Print out 100 hardcopies of the American Thinker article, "Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis", fold them letter-style, and affix them to the Obama merchandise at Wal-Mart. It'd work better if they were in a box, you could just slip them inside.

797 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:54:49am

re: #785 subsailor68

Cult is right. And when you think about it, we combined Lincoln and Washinton's birthday into one holiday...

and now they want to give a guy who's been in office about two months his own?

Total, utter, complete, massive, certifiable insanity.

I know how much you love verbosity!

;-)


Hell, they're already naming schools after him.

798 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:55:11am

re: #777 Leonidas Hoplite

I have a question for all my Lizard friends. I have been searching for ways to cut back my expenses and am wondering what things all of you are doing to cut back and save, be they little or small.

Some things that I've done:
1) Less driving by trying to combine trips (fewer one off's)
2) More eating in
3) Taking advantage of the public library for books, movies, and music
4) Lowered the thermostat (67 during the day, 62 at night)
5) No more soda & snack for the train ride home
6) No more Starbucks - drink the free stuff in the office

This may be silly but when something goes on sale like deordrant, toothpaste etc, I have bought multiples so I wont have to run out and buy when it is expensive.

I have been eating in more too and invested in Blockbuster mail rentals. I have not gone to the movies. for 17$ I can rent as many movies as I want. I live in a luxury hi-rise but it is cheaper than my old apt, because I have w/d, connections, free cable, and gas.

I clip coupons religiously. I have saved as much as 70$ on my groceries.

799 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:55:43am

re: #777 Leonidas Hoplite

I have a question for all my Lizard friends. I have been searching for ways to cut back my expenses and am wondering what things all of you are doing to cut back and save, be they little or small.

Some things that I've done:
1) Less driving by trying to combine trips (fewer one off's)
2) More eating in
3) Taking advantage of the public library for books, movies, and music
4) Lowered the thermostat (67 during the day, 62 at night)
5) No more soda & snack for the train ride home
6) No more Starbucks - drink the free stuff in the office

1. I've been doing that since gas got over $3.
2. Done a fair amount of that. Try to use coupons when dining out as well (you can get freebies by answering a restaurant's survey on the receipt).
3. Already have much of what I want, but use discounts at the bookstores.
4. You actually get it up to 67? I've left it at 63 all day and night since I moved in to my place 3 years ago.
5. Good idea. If you do that, simply bring your own. It's far cheaper.
6. Can't vouch there - I don't drink coffee.

800 VegasRick  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:55:47am

re: #792 abolitionist

No, direct link to SevenLoad instead of HotAir. Apparently, Japanese PM Tara Aso is to the left (BHO's right), on or about 24 Feb. Other guy seems to have a prayer bump, so I was curious/concerned about who he is.

I think it is Biden, was it yesterday? (ash Wednesday)

801 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:55:53am

re: #752 sattv4u2

Netanyahu Set to Fight Recession With Repeat Dose of Tax Cuts
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

OBAMA ,, tax increases
NETANYAHU , tax cuts

Guess which country will get out of the recession 1st !?!?!?!

You got it. And I repeat: I have yet to hear any Dem political figure even ATTEMPT to explain why it is we need huge taxes and gigantic government to get out of THIS recession, when Ronald Reagan swiftly and effectively got us out of the LAST big recession by doing exactly the opposite. Not even an attempt at an explanation.

802 jcm  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:55:59am

Did Obama promise energy independence or was I hearing things?

Bush Oil-Shale Leases Canceled by Salazar

In his second reversal of a Bush administration decision, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said Wednesday that he is scrapping leases for oil-shale development on federal land in Colorado, Utah and Wyoming.


Saudi reserves are around 300 Billion barrels.
US oil shale and sands are around 3 Trillion barrels. Canada has another 5.

Energy Independence my ass.

803 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:56:04am

re: #778 ilzito guacamolito

Eeeewww! I threw up a lot!

(handing you wastebasket)

804 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:56:50am

re: #767 Miss Trixie

Oh! I'm with you on that one. Last night I was poring over a glossy, cheery Perennial Catalogue and daydreamed over every last beautiful plant that I would happily give a loving home. :D

Aww - I'm doing the same, over here ...
And then, I add up what it'll cost - so I'm getting my little seedpots going, on the windowsill, well, I will be this weekend.
Still - those catalogues are soo drool-inducing, sigh ...

805 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:57:14am

re: #782 acwgusa

Analysis: GOP is at risk of becoming party in the no

Hey look! Gloom and Doom about the GOP from Politico! Shocking, I tell you!

It boggles my mind that Hugh Hewitt invites Mike Allen on his show every week, and how he seems so perplexed when Allen toes the DNC party line. Politico is an MSM phony blog through and through, and Hewitt has a bad case of denial about it.

806 subsailor68  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:57:18am

re: #789 Occasional Reader

Well, sort of... I'm looking for a better source for that story than a website called "jumping in pools" (which I've never heard of). So far, no luck.

Good point. I too am looking for confirmation - there are quite a few stories out there, including a reference to Michelle Malkin noting it...

Quite honestly, I may have linked to a site before I should have?

807 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:57:25am

re: #802 jcm

Did Obama promise energy independence or was I hearing things?

Bush Oil-Shale Leases Canceled by Salazar


Saudi reserves are around 300 Billion barrels.
US oil shale and sands are around 3 Trillion barrels. Canada has another 5.

Energy Independence my ass.

We'll be fine. We will be running on Unicorn Farts and refined hopenchange soon.

808 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:57:30am

re: #771 Kenneth

Say what you like, but Michelle Obama has the brow ridges of a Klingon.

With Michelle's muscular mannishness & Obama's foppish dandiness, I'd call them a samish sex couple. Icky.

Oh no! The Klingons went back in time and are trying to destroy us so we don't develop warp drive and defeat them hundreds of years from now!
/do I need to?

809 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:57:41am

re: #714 Afrocity

Well done!

810 gonecamping  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:57:57am

Lets see how many useful functions that poster can serve.

* liner for birdcage
* scoop for dog doo clean up
* workbench 'place mat' for cleaning fishing reels or other potentially messy work
* Place mat for dieters (I'd sure lose my appetite looking at that mug)
* Mudroom mat for keeping dirty boots off the floor
* spill guard to place under oil catch basin when changing oil

etc.


re: #728 redstateredneck

Wal-Mart is selling Obama posters laminated on hardboard. They are flying off the racks. My daughter bought one for her father as a joke. Makes a dandy dart board.

811 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:58:24am
812 JohnAdams  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:58:29am

re: #736 Pyrocles

...

Well, that pretty much sums it up. Either this is true, or we're all conspiracy nuts just like the Lefty UFO believers (which is my moonbat wife's opinion of LGF)...

That connects a lot of dots. Holy shit...

813 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:58:31am

re: #795 acwgusa

It wouldn't surprise me, given the absolute knee-pad job given to Obama by the media and the less intellectual voters conned by hope and change.


Wouldn't surprise me, either, but keep in mind there's also an awful lot of rumor mill dreck circulating on the innernut about Obama (see, e.g., nirth certifikit). So far, yahoo news and cnn searches have come up with nothing on this. My spidey-sense is tingling a little.

814 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:58:37am

re: #802 jcm

Did Obama promise energy independence or was I hearing things?

Bush Oil-Shale Leases Canceled by Salazar


Saudi reserves are around 300 Billion barrels.
US oil shale and sands are around 3 Trillion barrels. Canada has another 5.

Energy Independence my ass.


Now Now ,,, I hear Salazar is in deep negotiations with every mini-golf course in the country to nationalize their WINDMILLS!

815 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:58:56am

re: #810 gonecamping

Lets see how many useful functions that poster can serve.

* liner for birdcage
* scoop for dog doo clean up
* workbench 'place mat' for cleaning fishing reels or other potentially messy work
* Place mat for dieters (I'd sure lose my appetite looking at that mug)
* Mudroom mat for keeping dirty boots off the floor
* spill guard to place under oil catch basin when changing oil

etc.

Urinal cake.

816 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:58:59am

re: #807 acwgusa

We'll be fine. We will be running on Unicorn Farts and refined hopenchange soon.

Balsa wood cars powered by a hug and a smile.

817 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:59:16am

re: #790 ilzito guacamolito

Grassyass!

Grassyass?
Thats something I've not come across yet - ye've gotta translate, else how am I to know if its an insult or an endearment?

:-)

818 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:59:49am

re: #816 Ward Cleaver

Balsa wood cars powered by a hug and a smile.

Rubber band Boy Scout Cars!

819 Long Nics are Looonnng  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 7:59:57am

Well, kids. 400 mile drive is waiting for me. Couch ain't movin' a bit. Really need to run. Bye now.

820 abolitionist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:00:16am

re: #800 VegasRick

I think it is Biden, was it yesterday? (ash Wednesday)

Tuesday I think. Gee, I was hoping it's not anyone in the administration.

821 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:00:43am

re: #798 Afrocity

This may be silly but when something goes on sale like deordrant, toothpaste etc, I have bought multiples so I wont have to run out and buy when it is expensive.

I have been eating in more too and invested in Blockbuster mail rentals. I have not gone to the movies. for 17$ I can rent as many movies as I want. I live in a luxury hi-rise but it is cheaper than my old apt, because I have w/d, connections, free cable, and gas.

I clip coupons religiously. I have saved as much as 70$ on my groceries.

I'm having trouble reconciling this post with your previous mention of your personal shopper at Ikram's...

:P

822 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:01:37am

Okay, I've ceased trying to understand the stock market. The Dow is up 120 points, despite this morning's release of "worse than expected" news on durable goods orders and new jobless claims. I don't get it.

823 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:01:46am

re: #821 Occasional Reader

I'm having trouble reconciling this post with your previous mention of your personal shopper at Ikram's...

:P

They accept all competitors coupons!

//

824 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:01:53am

re: #801 Occasional Reader

That's because the current crop of Democrats is in love with the myth of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. They honestly believe he made the Great Depression better, and they honestly believe he ended it. Never mind that FDR's policies made the Depression worse, and his anti-business attitude kept the markets in flux and stalled investment. Hoover seriously fucked up (ther is no other word for it), but FDR made a bad situation worse. I see Obama doing much the same right now as both Hoover and FDR. It's going to be a very rough four years, and I pity anyone who put money in the markets before this broke.

825 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:02:31am

re: #811 Ward Cleaver

Ummm, I'd reconsider that post.

826 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:02:48am

re: #803 Afrocity

(handing you wastebasket)

Much appreciated. Just checked your profile. Nice photo! You should be on Vogue instead of the First Klingon of the United States.

827 subsailor68  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:03:19am

re: #813 Occasional Reader

Wouldn't surprise me, either, but keep in mind there's also an awful lot of rumor mill dreck circulating on the innernut about Obama (see, e.g., nirth certifikit). So far, yahoo news and cnn searches have come up with nothing on this. My spidey-sense is tingling a little.

That's very true. Here's a link to Michelle Malkin back in November, but at that point it was more about the idiots who were pushing for an Obama day. No mention at that time about Stark etc.

Link

828 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:03:39am

re: #824 Honorary Yooper

They honestly believe he made the Great Depression better,

He DID make it better, Due to his policies, it was one of the longest running (i.e. best) depressions we've ever had !

829 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:04:03am

re: #824 Honorary Yooper

And yet couldn't the frickkin' REPUBLICANS make more noise about this obvious comparison?! How hard would it have been for Jindal to replace his "volcano monitoring" thing with a mention of Reagan's success in 1981 with cutting taxes and reducing government growth? Gah, is what I say.

830 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:04:04am

re: #821 Occasional Reader

I'm having trouble reconciling this post with your previous mention of your personal shopper at Ikram's...

:P

One's gotta prioritise - I think Afrocity has hers sorted out very well indeed!
Save on the boring stuff and spend on fashion. I think we must be related ...

831 subsailor68  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:04:10am

Okay, really must go now. Will check back later.

832 JohnAdams  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:04:11am

re: #776 albusteve

my thing is more roots stuff...Little Feat, subdudes, Sonny Landreth, Hiatt...that sort of thing...small venues...I can usually hit a tour somewhere and see a few shows and party with friends...that's how I do it

Subdudes is a vastly unde band.

833 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:04:25am

re: #825 Occasional Reader

Ummm, I'd reconsider that post.

Sorry, I was keying off the dart board thing. I've reported it. Stinky, do your thing, please.

834 UFO TOFU  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:04:32am

re: #802 jcm

This article makes a good point about Canadian oil sands (about halfway into the article).

835 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:04:38am

re: #822 Occasional Reader

Okay, I've ceased trying to understand the stock market. The Dow is up 120 points, despite this morning's release of "worse than expected" news on durable goods orders and new jobless claims. I don't get it.

One word: $oros.

836 Miss Trixie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:04:48am

re: #744 realwest

How are you and Lil Miss doing today?

We're just fine, thanks for asking. It's mild enough that I can take her out when I get home from work tonight but I must be prepared for our return.

./ Her favorite fluffy towel with pawprints folded by the kitchen sink.
./ My favorite pupster shampoo to wash the mud off her coat and toes.
./ Hair dryer.
./ My oldest coat to wear so that her muddy pawprints don't matter when I carry her from the front hallway up to the kitchen sink.
./ Pupperoni! 'Cause she deserves a treat.

:D

837 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:05:06am

re: #817 yma o hyd

Grassyass?
Thats something I've not come across yet - ye've gotta translate, else how am I to know if its an insult or an endearment?

:-)

grassyass:fluent in American::gracias:fluent in Spanish

838 JohnAdams  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:05:35am

re: #818 acwgusa

Rubber band Boy Scout Cars!

Boxcars.

839 albusteve  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:05:42am

re: #832 JohnAdams

Subdudes is a vastly unde band.

vastly unde?

840 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:06:25am

re: #838 JohnAdams

Boxcars.

The train kind, or the cardboard box on shopping cart kind?

841 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:06:36am

re: #839 albusteve

vastly unde?

I'm cornfused.

842 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:06:46am

re: #806 subsailor68

there are quite a few stories out there

The one's I've seen are all referring back to the same source... and the Malkin one is the older story about the little group that met at a McDonald's. Hmm.

843 jcm  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:06:52am

re: #834 UFO TOFU

This article makes a good point about Canadian oil sands (about halfway into the article).

Canada the new Saudi, from an energy standpoint.

844 Beach Lover  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:06:59am

re: #797 redstateredneck

Hell, they're already naming schools after him.


Hey...if we have to name a national holiday after him...hence his "birth day" *wink wink* maybe we can actually see is birth certificate and where he was born?

845 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:07:54am

re: #833 Ward Cleaver

Sorry, I was keying off the dart board thing. I've reported it. Stinky, do your thing, please.

Sorry, Ward. I don't want to get you in trouble!

846 JohnAdams  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:08:01am

re: #840 acwgusa

The train kind, or the cardboard box on shopping cart kind?

The one-way kind.

847 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:08:18am

re: #845 redstateredneck

Sorry, Ward. I don't want to get you in trouble!

That's okay, I've hit report on it twice now.

848 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:08:27am

re: #824 Honorary Yooper

That's because the current crop of Democrats is in love with the myth of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. They honestly believe he made the Great Depression better, and they honestly believe he ended it. Never mind that FDR's policies made the Depression worse, and his anti-business attitude kept the markets in flux and stalled investment. Hoover seriously fucked up (ther is no other word for it), but FDR made a bad situation worse. I see Obama doing much the same right now as both Hoover and FDR. It's going to be a very rough four years, and I pity anyone who put money in the markets before this broke.

This would indeed seem to be the case - especially since I understand from Folsom' book, New Deal or Raw Deal? that the majority of the literature on FDR is pretty uncritical, to say the least - and thats the literature used in colleges and universities.

849 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:08:34am

I like the idea of an Obama campaign-logo urinal cake.

850 JohnAdams  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:09:07am

re: #839 albusteve

vastly unde?

Undeerrated. I've got a kiddie filter on my machine and sometimes I forget to disable it before posting. Obviously it filted out the "rrated" portion of the word. Pretty damn good, eh?

851 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:09:09am
852 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:09:20am

re: #777 Leonidas Hoplite

I have a question for all my Lizard friends. I have been searching for ways to cut back my expenses and am wondering what things all of you are doing to cut back and save, be they little or small.

Some things that I've done:
1) Less driving by trying to combine trips (fewer one off's)
2) More eating in
3) Taking advantage of the public library for books, movies, and music
4) Lowered the thermostat (67 during the day, 62 at night)
5) No more soda & snack for the train ride home
6) No more Starbucks - drink the free stuff in the office

Wait. You're assuming I had money to begin with. Silly human. As said before, some conservatives aren't rolling in dough.

853 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:09:23am

re: #846 JohnAdams

The one-way kind.

Ah. Caught me unaware with the reference. Slow on the uptake today.

854 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:09:31am

re: #821 Occasional Reader

I'm having trouble reconciling this post with your previous mention of your personal shopper at Ikram's...

:P

Hey I never pretended to be Miss J Crew seersucker of the year/
I have designer clothes but always buy on sale and from consignment stores. I also sell those I no longer need on Ebay.

I have stop getting spa treatments.
I now do my own mani/pedicures, and facials
I do my own hair now.
I speak before the public a lot so I have to look nice.
I make my own egg yolk facial mask.

855 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:09:33am

So am I completely nuts, in that I haven't cut back on my spending?

I have the same job, good pay, good job security (knock on wood), why should I cut back on spending? As it is I save a good chunk of my income (always have). But I just don't see the need to stop, say, dining out, based on the idea that others have lost their jobs. In fact, if I cut back on spending, it only exacerbates the problem.

856 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:09:35am

re: #844 Beach Lover

Hey...if we have to name a national holiday after him...hence his "birth day" *wink wink* maybe we can actually see is birth certificate and where he was born?

No, because it'll be henceforth known as Obama's 'Nirthday.

857 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:09:45am

Chas Freeman Is Bigoted And Out Of Touch

Here is the most stunning prospective appointment of the Obama administration as yet. Not stunning as in "spectacular" or "distinguished" but stunning as in bigoted and completely out of synch with the deepest convictions of the American people. What's more, Charles "Chas" Freeman is a bought man, having been ambassador to Saudi Arabia and then having supped at its tables for almost two decades, supped quite literally, and supped also at home, courtesy of Prince Bandar, confidante of the Bushes who as everybody knows became extremely wealthy through the intimacy with the royal house, a story that has not been done adequately ever.

858 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:09:57am

re: #844 Beach Lover

Hey...if we have to name a national holiday after him...hence his "birth day" *wink wink* maybe we can actually see is birth certificate and where he was born?

I love the way your mind works, beachie!

859 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:10:03am

re: #781 Beach Lover
Ah, thanks {Beach Lover}!

860 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:10:10am

re: #837 ilzito guacamolito

grassyass:fluent in American::gracias:fluent in Spanish

Aww - thanks!
Or 'diolch yn fawr', as we say in Welsh ...

861 albusteve  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:10:19am

re: #850 JohnAdams

Undeerrated. I've got a kiddie filter on my machine and sometimes I forget to disable it before posting. Obviously it filted out the "rrated" portion of the word. Pretty damn good, eh?

the band yes...blog fu not so much :)

862 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:10:46am

re: #849 Taqiyyotomist

I like the idea of an Obama campaign-logo urinal cake.

I see a new company! Obama Urinal cakes! We put the P back in Obama!

/There's no P in Obama...

863 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:10:56am

re: #851 taxfreekiller

I'm in rural SW MI, and the rural Mexicans have AK's. I worked with a girl who brought in some family pics. Her young husband posing with the guns was a common theme.

864 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:11:10am

re: #843 jcm

Canada the new Saudi, from an energy standpoint.

Can WriterMom in a burka be far behind?

/

865 J.S.  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:11:20am

re: #802 jcm

The Obama administration will also be attacking Canada's (that's actually Alberta's) oil sands projects...Obama keeps calling it "dirty oil" (National Geographic will also be featuring, on behalf of The Zero, no doubt, a cover depicting Alberta's "dirty" oil sands development projects.) Obama wants (during a recession) to force Americans to spend trillions and trillions of dollars on solar and wind "energy" sources -- meanwhile, oil is at 30 dollars a barrel, natural gas is going for $4, and 6cents per kilowatt hour via fossil fuels (that'll be 40 cents per kilowatt for solar), etc. It all makes such perfect "sense" from a Democratic Party agenda -- that's to bankrupt Americans and have them on their knees financially. (Also hear that that was bin Laden's agenda -- but I guess it takes an American president to realize bin Laden's goals.).

866 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:11:22am

re: #862 acwgusa

I see a new company! Obama Urinal cakes! We put the P back in Obama!

/There's no P in Obama...

The p is silent, as in swimming.

867 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:11:45am

re: #863 Taqiyyotomist

In other words, it is in our backyard.

868 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:12:17am

I have two Persian cats and I am grooming them at home now. Invested $30 in the clippers and I am having a good time. I also order my pet immunization via mail order and give them myself.

869 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:12:17am

re: #714 Afrocity

American Thinker

J-Crew on the cover of Vogue. depressing.

870 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:12:18am

re: #793 sattv4u2
Hi there! I hope Maine is not on your vacation itinerary!

871 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:12:31am

re: #854 Afrocity

Hey I never pretended to be Miss J Crew seersucker of the year/
I have designer clothes but always buy on sale and from consignment stores. I also sell those I no longer need on Ebay.

I have stop getting spa treatments.
I now do my own mani/pedicures, and facials
I do my own hair now.
I speak before the public a lot so I have to look nice.
I make my own egg yolk facial mask.

Heh - your don't need to defend your shopping habits to a mere male!

{Afrocity}

872 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:12:32am

re: #848 yma o hyd

This would indeed seem to be the case - especially since I understand from Folsom' book, New Deal or Raw Deal? that the majority of the literature on FDR is pretty uncritical, to say the least - and thats the literature used in colleges and universities.

Most of the literature written by historians tends to be uncritical of FDR, mostly due to his having to deal with WWII in his third term. Economists on the other hand, are very critical of him, even Kenyesian economists.

873 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:13:03am

re: #866 Ward Cleaver

The p is silent, as in swimming.

I would make a joke about Obama and P and both being yellow, but I don't need Charles kicking my butt, or to be put in a Re-education camp.

874 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:13:23am

Later Lizards! Have a wonderful day!

875 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:13:50am

re: #874 Taqiyyotomist

Later Lizards! Have a wonderful day!


See ya'!

876 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:13:59am

re: #873 acwgusa

booo. ;)

877 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:14:02am
878 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:14:03am

(Okay, am I missing the semiotic importance of J Crew?)

879 jcm  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:14:14am

re: #865 J.S.

The Obama administration will also be attacking Canada's (that's actually Alberta's) oil sands projects...Obama keeps calling it "dirty oil" (National Geographic will also be featuring, on behalf of The Zero, no doubt, a cover depicting Alberta's "dirty" oil sands development projects.) Obama wants (during a recession) to force Americans to spend trillions and trillions of dollars on solar and wind "energy" sources -- meanwhile, oil is at 30 dollars a barrel, natural gas is going for $4, and 6cents per kilowatt hour via fossil fuels (that'll be 40 cents per kilowatt for solar), etc. It all makes such perfect "sense" from a Democratic Party agenda -- that's to bankrupt Americans and have them on their knees financially. (Also hear that that was bin Laden's agenda -- but I guess it takes an American president to realize bin Laden's goals.).

It's not an energy policy.
It's a political policy for control.

880 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:14:34am

re: #871 yma o hyd

Heh - your don't need to defend your shopping habits to a mere male!

{Afrocity}

You know, I can't even remember the last time when I actually bought clothes. I hate shopping that much.

881 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:15:13am

re: #871 yma o hyd

Sorry to sound defensive. I have been accused of being "high maintenance" before. What I have found is that most guys think a woman is high maintenance if she does not use a 2 in 1 shampoo and conditioner and bathes everyday./

882 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:15:19am

re: #802 jcm
Morning jcm! Just wanted you to know that I reported that excellent comment to Charles in hopes of getting a thread out of it!
How are you doing today?

883 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:15:25am

re: #872 Honorary Yooper

Most of the literature written by historians tends to be uncritical of FDR, mostly due to his having to deal with WWII in his third term. Economists on the other hand, are very critical of him, even Kenyesian economists.

Since when have moonbats, Libtards and Democrats actually read/studied such an uncongential subject as ... economics!

884 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:15:31am
885 JohnAdams  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:15:33am

re: #865 J.S.

Exactly. It is ALL oil that is bad, not just imported oil. And remember Obama talking about putting coal plants out of business? That is already in the works with his plan to make carbon a "pollutant". These fucking idiots are putting a straightjacket on a corpse. Obama is way more radical than we had even feared.

886 jester6  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:15:43am

Anyone waiting for a black rifle might want to pony up today. I had been waiting for prices to drop but I read the Eric Holder wanted to reinstitute the AW ban and decided to pull the trigger on my purchase. The guy I bought it from has 80 items on gunbroker.com. He asked me why there was a run on his stuff in the last 24 hours.

My guess is if he know what Holder said he would have charged me another $400 bucks.

887 opnion  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:15:45am

re: #735 ThinkRight

Good enought for NYT

Ain't that the truth, "All the News That Fits"

888 jcm  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:15:46am

re: #878 Occasional Reader

(Okay, am I missing the semiotic importance of J Crew?)

Who?

889 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:16:21am

re: #860 yma o hyd

Aww - thanks!
Or 'diolch yn fawr', as we say in Welsh ...

Croeso. BTW, Mae fy hofrenfad yn llawn o lyswennod.

890 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:16:32am

re: #863 Taqiyyotomist

I'm in rural SW MI, and the rural Mexicans have AK's. I worked with a girl who brought in some family pics. Her young husband posing with the guns was a common theme.

These are the kind of poses I like.

/vicente ferna'ndez, ranchera star

891 Beach Lover  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:16:51am

BBL..I've got to do something industrious today.
*looks at the vacuum cleaner, begrudgingly*
wish the sun would come out...I like cleaning in the sunshine!

892 MJ  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:16:54am

re: #857 Kenneth

Chas Freeman Is Bigoted And Out Of Touch

More on Freeman here too:
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

893 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:16:59am

re: #873 acwgusa

Joy Camp!

894 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:17:04am

re: #878 Occasional Reader

(Okay, am I missing the semiotic importance of J Crew?)

Nope.
Its just that female brains work differently when it comes to shopping for themselves!

:-)

895 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:17:30am

re: #767 Miss Trixie east, midwest, west Canada?

896 jcm  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:17:53am

re: #882 realwest

Morning jcm! Just wanted you to know that I reported that excellent comment to Charles in hopes of getting a thread out of it!
How are you doing today?

4 inches of surprise frozen Gorbul Warming today! Everything is good!

897 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:17:56am

re: #883 yma o hyd

Since when have moonbats, Libtards and Democrats actually read/studied such an uncongential subject as ... economics!

They don't, which explains their affinity for such ideas as communism and socialism, and why they think that those will work when applied. Anyone who has seriously studied economics and does not let ideology get in the way (that means you, Paul Krugman) will understand that socialism and communism will never work.

898 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:18:20am

re: #893 Ward Cleaver

Joy Camp!

Wouldn't be my joy, that's for damn sure.

899 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:18:20am

re: #865 J.S.

The Obama administration will also be attacking Canada's (that's actually Alberta's) oil sands projects...Obama keeps calling it "dirty oil" (National Geographic will also be featuring, on behalf of The Zero, no doubt, a cover depicting Alberta's "dirty" oil sands development projects.) Obama wants (during a recession) to force Americans to spend trillions and trillions of dollars on solar and wind "energy" sources -- meanwhile, oil is at 30 dollars a barrel, natural gas is going for $4, and 6cents per kilowatt hour via fossil fuels (that'll be 40 cents per kilowatt for solar), etc. It all makes such perfect "sense" from a Democratic Party agenda -- that's to bankrupt Americans and have them on their knees financially. (Also hear that that was bin Laden's agenda -- but I guess it takes an American president to realize bin Laden's goals.).

That's how the 0 will stop Al Quadea. Bin Laden will say "They're ruining their own economy. Why should I keep planning attacks. I can retire now. Where's the goat?"
/do I need to

900 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:18:26am

re: #811 Ward Cleaver

Sorry Ward. Had to down ding you on that. Not a good idea to use a poster of the POTUS like that.

901 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:18:52am
902 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:18:55am

re: #877 taxfreekiller

higher orders for durable goods

No, durable goods orders showed a sharp decline... and usually the bear markets jump on that.

903 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:19:17am

re: #878 Occasional Reader

(Okay, am I missing the semiotic importance of J Crew?)

The hypocrisy is that J Crew is not cheap. Neither is Anthropolgie, Banana Republic, Ann Taylor, etc. I have taken advantage of better deals at the Barney's Warehouse Sale in NYC. My furniture is a mix of some Ikea and vintages 50's pieces.

I am not against high living but if I were running for office, I would not suddenly flush my Prada down the toilet and change into my Kohl's sack dress showing off my well toned biceps with a belly full of caviar. (burp)

904 gonecamping  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:19:22am

There may not be a P in Obama, but he sure is full of BS. How can the MSM continue to ignore the blatant ' misinformation' espoused by the Great O. And do the sheep that elected him not care one whit about the truth and the doublespeak he shovels?

I read the other day about MA planning on eliminating the 'History requirement' for graduation. I guess if history is not taught, then the liberals can rewrite it easier, or pretend nothing of importance happened til they came along.

re: #862 acwgusa

I see a new company! Obama Urinal cakes! We put the P back in Obama!

/There's no P in Obama...

905 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:19:29am

re: #822 Occasional Reader
Good morning O.R. - you're not supposed to get it! That's what "Financial Advisors" are for!

906 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:19:38am

re: #884 buzzsawmonkey

Sha na na na na na na
Sha na na na
J. Crew

--the Beatles

Jude? How Obscure.

907 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:20:01am

re: #904 gonecamping

There may not be a P in Obama, but he sure is full of BS. How can the MSM continue to ignore the blatant ' misinformation' espoused by the Great O. And do the sheep that elected him not care one whit about the truth and the doublespeak he shovels?

I read the other day about MA planning on eliminating the 'History requirement' for graduation. I guess if history is not taught, then the liberals can rewrite it easier, or pretend nothing of importance happened til they came along.

"He who controls the past..."

908 Basho  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:20:09am

re: #12 dentate

I won't even pretend to understand the rhinoceros thing, unless it is a RINO reference.

Rhinoceros is a wonderful play. I read it in college. Simply fantastic.

The short version is that everyone turns into a rhinoceros, symbolizing how a crowd of ordinary people can turn into monsters. It was a reference to Nazi Germany, but could be applied to a lot of different scenarios...

909 Pyrocles  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:20:09am

We'll eventually have to send our military into Mexico to help its government gain control over the drug cartels.

re: #851 taxfreekiller

Its not kidnapping any more.

[Link: www.usdoj.gov...]

5 years ago all this was in Mexico.

Now its as far north as Dallas, some in Denver, growing in Chicago, Detroit,
even Boston and New York... poor Calif. has its head in the sand and is bankrupt and people vote with their moving vans now...

Question is, after 4 years of Obama and ACORN, were will it be, other in your back yard.

910 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:20:19am

re: #852 vxbush

Wait. You're assuming I had money to begin with. Silly human. As said before, some conservatives aren't rolling in dough.

Never thought that way, just looking for ways to save that my puny brain may not have thought of.

911 Ojoe  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:20:25am

re: #726 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gotta run, but other anecdote... ran into an old friend a couple of months ago. We talked about politics, she found out I was a conservative and actually said the following to me, and I quote, "Well, that means you have been successful."

What the fuck are these people thinking?

There you see the fuming resentment fanned for so long by the Democratic party, it will tear this country apart when we all need to work together.

The Modern Whig Party might be better
Modern Whig Party

BBL

912 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:20:33am

re: #862 acwgusa

I see a new company! Obama Urinal cakes! We put the P back in Obama!

/There's no P in Obama...


Careful! You don't want this to happen to you!

913 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:20:35am

re: #900 Bubblehead II

Sorry Ward. Had to down ding you on that. Not a good idea to use a poster of the POTUS like that.

I know. I've hit the report button twice, but the comment is still there. Guess Stinky's busy right now.

914 Jimmah  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:20:36am

[Link: uk.news.yahoo.com...]

Cult comedy Red Dwarf is returning to the small screen this Easter, 21 years since the science fiction series first blasted off.

Cool!

915 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:20:57am
916 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:21:07am

re: #881 Afrocity

Sorry to sound defensive. I have been accused of being "high maintenance" before. What I have found is that most guys think a woman is high maintenance if she does not use a 2 in 1 shampoo and conditioner and bathes everyday./

You're telling me!

My husband always was at me when I bought another pair of shoes ... he thought shoes needed to be worn til they fell apart before one got another one!
Now I'm not in the Imelda-Marcos-League, but a nice pair of heels are a necessity of life!
Mind - I always enjoy hugely to look like a million dollars on the cheap: second-hand shops, sales, that sort of thing.
I wonder if Charles would let us have a fashion thread ...

917 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:21:15am

re: #903 Afrocity

Neither is Anthropolgie

The store that causes my wife to get this look in her eyes...

918 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:21:26am

re: #880 vxbush

You know, I can't even remember the last time when I actually bought clothes. I hate shopping that much.

I find a brand I like and order online. I hate trying on clothes in fitting rooms.

919 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:22:10am

re: #913 Ward Cleaver

I know. I've hit the report button twice, but the comment is still there. Guess Stinky's busy right now.

Or just not fully awake yet.

920 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:22:32am

re: #915 buzzsawmonkey

Not so much. I'm expecting yellow stars with "Jude" on them to come back into fashion any day now.

I was expecting you to rejoin my "Jude the Obscure" reference with "Hardy har har har!"...

921 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:22:58am

re: #916 yma o hyd

Little Green Fashionistas

922 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:23:04am

re: #913 Ward Cleaver

Ok, I'll go back up and reverse my ding. Stinky will get to it eventually.

923 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:23:05am
924 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:23:14am

re: #914 Jimmah

[Link: uk.news.yahoo.com...]

Cool!

I love that show! It's on the local PBS station here, and on Nov 22nd, they ran the JFK episode. I DVR'd it then, and I still haven't deleted it. Boy, if the Kennedys knew about that episode, they'd go all jihad on it.

925 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:23:35am

re: #919 Honorary Yooper

Or just not fully awake yet.

Maybe the third time's the charm. Stinky?

926 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:23:52am

re: #881 Afrocity

Sorry to sound defensive. I have been accused of being "high maintenance" before. What I have found is that most guys think a woman is high maintenance if she does not use a 2 in 1 shampoo and conditioner and bathes everyday./

I like a woman who takes good care of herself and pays attention to how she looks, actually.

927 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:24:02am
928 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:25:10am

re: #891 Beach Lover

BBL..I've got to do something industrious today.
*looks at the vacuum cleaner, begrudgingly*
wish the sun would come out...I like cleaning in the sunshine!


Hush, girl, the sunshine will show up the dust!

929 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:25:40am

re: #917 Occasional Reader

The store that causes my wife to get this look in her eyes...

Anthropologie is expensive. I have a friend that swears by them and she chides me for shopping designer. Once I got a Chanel black dress in Chicago for a steal at $250 on sale. She spent nearly $300 on a blazer at Anthropologie. I bet my Chanel dress stays around a lot longer than her corduroy blazer.

930 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:26:39am

re: #914 Jimmah

[Link: uk.news.yahoo.com...]

Cool!

Hey, I found this story there too:

'U2 robbing world's poor'

What, no money for AIDS, guys?

931 tedzilla99  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:27:26am

re: #930 Ward Cleaver

Hey, I found this story there too:

'U2 robbing world's poor'

What, no money for AIDS, guys?

Those are some cool website numbers you posted

/biden OFF

932 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:27:28am

Bad news in Obamalot:

Chas Freeman is actually a new psychological type for a Democratic administration. He has never displayed a liberal instinct and wants the United States to kow-tow to authoritarians and tyrants, in some measure just because they may seem able to keep the streets quiet. And frankly, Chas brings a bitter rancor to how he looks at Israel. No Arab country and no Arab movement--basically including Hezbollah and Hamas--poses a challenge to the kind of world order we Americans want to see. He is now very big on Hamas as the key to bringing peace to Gaza, when in fact it is the key to uproar and bloodletting, not just against Israel but against the Palestinian Authority that is the only group of Palestinians that has even given lip-service (and, to be fair, a bit more) to a settlement with Israel.

933 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:27:30am

re: #913 Ward Cleaver

I know. I've hit the report button twice, but the comment is still there. Guess Stinky's busy right now.

Speaking of pistol range targets, one thing I notice at my range is that black folks often use white silhouette targets.

Now, I suppose they in turn feel uncomfortable seeing me put holes in a black silhouette target. But here's the thing; in the real world, there's generally no such thing as a white silhouette...

934 UFO TOFU  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:28:13am

re: #851 taxfreekiller

people vote with their moving vans now


That's a keeper!

935 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:28:22am

re: #927 buzzsawmonkey

Indeed I should have, but it's going to take a while today to get the sense of humor airborne.

"clean Kohl" made for a nice RATO pack for that purpose.

936 Jimmah  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:28:38am

re: #908 Basho

Looks interesting. I see there was a movie adaptation with Gene Wilder from 1973. I'm guessing I should probably resist the temptation to watch that, and just look for the play instead.

937 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:28:40am

re: #870 realwest

Hi there! I hope Maine is not on your vacation itinerary!


Why? I own a piece of vacation porperty there. I haven't been there in about 7-8 years though (my sister and brother-out-law who live in Mass take care of it for us, in return they get to use it when it's not rented)

938 Afrocity  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:29:06am

re: #933 Occasional Reader

I have nothing to say. I am ROTFL.

If it makes you feel better when playing chess I always choose to be the white pieces.

939 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:29:17am

re: #910 Leonidas Hoplite

Never thought that way, just looking for ways to save that my puny brain may not have thought of.

I realize that. No slight against you; just me having a very tiring day already.

940 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:29:32am

re: #931 tedzilla99

Those are some cool website numbers you posted

/biden OFF

What an out-of-touch dope he is.

Like when Fat Teddy (referring to Kerry and Edwards) called Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa, "Mike McGwire and Sammy Sooser".

941 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:30:00am

re: #939 vxbush

I realize that. No slight against you; just me having a very tiring day already.


No worries, fellow Lizard!

942 MJ  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:30:25am

re: #932 Kenneth

Bad news in Obamalot:

Marty must have forgotten Jimmy Carter who also loves any tyrant out there as long as they hate Jews.

943 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:31:00am

re: #500 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Daley Plaza, 11 to 12:20. Friday.

Ah, hell. That lets me out. I have to work.

944 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:31:07am

re: #918 redstateredneck

I find a brand I like and order online. I hate trying on clothes in fitting rooms.

Except I have to try on clothes. Most things simply don't fit me well. It's a royal pain.

945 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:32:03am

re: #932 Kenneth

Bad news in Obamalot:

Good God.

Threadworthy. And horrifying.

946 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:32:23am

re: #777 Leonidas Hoplite

I have a question for all my Lizard friends. I have been searching for ways to cut back my expenses and am wondering what things all of you are doing to cut back and save, be they little or small.

Some things that I've done:
1) Less driving by trying to combine trips (fewer one off's)
2) More eating in
3) Taking advantage of the public library for books, movies, and music
4) Lowered the thermostat (67 during the day, 62 at night)
5) No more soda & snack for the train ride home
6) No more Starbucks - drink the free stuff in the office

I've been slowly insulating various rooms of my house.
I bought a very very dilapidated house so I have been remodelling. I like to buy mismatched paint of varying hues and then blend it all together in a large bucket. It will save $$$ and the leftovers can be stored in the little 1.50 quart cans I can pick up at home depot.

Keep your gas tank above 1/2 and it wont be as hard on the engine and it helps with starts in cold weather.

I would be a popsicle if I had my heat at 62. need more insulation.

947 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:33:14am

re: #944 vxbush

Except I have to try on clothes. Most things simply don't fit me well. It's a royal pain.

That's why I stick to a few trusted brands. I know how they fit so I usually don't have to return.

948 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:33:24am

re: #889 ilzito guacamolito

Croeso. BTW, Mae fy hofrenfad yn llawn o lyswennod.

Is it really!

:-)))

949 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:33:57am

re: #855 Occasional Reader

No, you're not nuts. I'm also just carrying on, I have not stopped buying clothes for the kids, our regular weekly shopping needs, we're still saving, too. Business as usual because our employment situation is unchanged.

950 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:34:20am

re: #940 Ward Cleaver

Just went back up thread. Stinky took care of that problem.

951 Jimmah  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:34:27am

re: #924 Ward Cleaver

I love that show! It's on the local PBS station here, and on Nov 22nd, they ran the JFK episode. I DVR'd it then, and I still haven't deleted it. Boy, if the Kennedys knew about that episode, they'd go all jihad on it.

Great show. I must admit though, I was disappointed when they replaced Claire Grogan, who played Kochansky in the first few series. The new one just isn't the same.

952 VegasRick  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:34:29am

re: #940 Ward Cleaver

What an out-of-touch dope he is.

Like when Fat Teddy (referring to Kerry and Edwards) called Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa, "Mike McGwire and Sammy Sooser".

953 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:34:31am

re: #921 Afrocity

Little Green Fashionistas

Yep!
And we can watch the meltdown of the male Lizards, teeheehee!

(Joking, dear male Lizards, just joking!)

954 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:34:46am

re: #947 redstateredneck

That's why I stick to a few trusted brands. I know how they fit so I usually don't have to return.

But I shop Goodwill, because I can actually afford that. I don't think I've paid retail on clothing in decades.

955 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:34:53am

re: #932 Kenneth

Yes, I heard about that.

956 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:35:01am
958 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:35:29am

re: #794 Occasional Reader

Okay, but why perpetuate that stereotype by telling jokes that imply that Texans willfully murder people who are "different"?

Good point. I posted a bad joke, but I also pointed out that Texans are stereotyped-but only from the LLL viewpoint. In my reply, I pointed out a crime used by the MFM to attack GWB on his 2000 Pres campaign; the second crime got no MFM notice that I ever saw-and I pointed out the double standard. It exists-and we have to be smart enough to read thru the BS, and find the truth. Hopefully, we educate others as we do. I have no anti gay, anti anything belief-but I do find the current PC BS to be in favor of forcing UnConstitutional crap down peeps throats-and indoctrination for the children. I try to point the inequity out when I can. Apologies, if I've offended somehow.

Pietr

959 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:35:32am

re: #956 buzzsawmonkey

If it makes you feel any better, Douglas MacArthur had the same problem. Oh, you thought "I shall return" was a statement about the war?

Heh. I doubt his arms were as short as mine, though.

960 UFO TOFU  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:35:34am

re: #855 Occasional Reader

In fact, if I cut back on spending, it only exacerbates the problem.


Good point. We're trying to dine more often to help the local restaurants. I've even started hiring out some home improvement projects that I ordinarily do myself in order to help out my local contractor friends.

961 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:35:49am

re: #949 WriterMom

re: #855 Occasional Reader

refer to my #793

962 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:35:51am

re: #953 yma o hyd

For sure. By the way, who said it was a JCrew dress on the cover? It's not-it's one designed by the (Canadian) designer who did her feather, shoulderless white dress for the Innaugural Ball-IIRC Jason Wu.

963 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:35:56am

re: #938 Afrocity

I have nothing to say. I am ROTFL.

If it makes you feel better when playing chess I always choose to be the white pieces.

"Always bet on black!"

-Wesley Snipes, in some lousy movie

Now, I also note that the most standard target that has a human figure on it (the one ICE uses for small arms qualifying) has a scruffy-looking white guy caricature on it (brandishing a pistol). He kind of looks like a 1940s cartoon version of a bad guy.

But maybe just one day, as I watch a black patron take a white silhouette target off the shelf, I should say, "look, even if it's Ed Begley Jr. coming through your bedroom window at 4 a.m., he's gonna produce a black silhouette."

964 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:36:13am
965 gonecamping  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:36:39am

Here in Florida there is a pharmacy chain called Walgreen's. Each quarter they have a rebate book available and a ton of stuff on sale.

My wife never misses these sales/rebates and we have a box of stuff in the closet that was free, after the rebate. Toothbrushes, shampoo, mouthwash, shaving cream, etc, etc. are items we never have to pay for thanks to these specials.

Don't know if Walgreen's is in your area, but it doesn't hurt to check the various chains for similar 'routine' specials and stock up when you can.

re: #777 Leonidas Hoplite

I have a question for all my Lizard friends. I have been searching for ways to cut back my expenses and am wondering what things all of you are doing to cut back and save, be they little or small.

Some things that I've done:
1) Less driving by trying to combine trips (fewer one off's)
2) More eating in
3) Taking advantage of the public library for books, movies, and music
4) Lowered the thermostat (67 during the day, 62 at night)
5) No more soda & snack for the train ride home
6) No more Starbucks - drink the free stuff in the office

966 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:37:03am

re: #793 sattv4u2

Gotcha. People do have to keep spending-if they can of course. Like I said-we're the same because our employment situation is the same.

967 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:37:10am

re: #945 Occasional Reader

Good God.

Threadworthy. And horrifying.

The fact that the article is in TNR is even worse for Obama. The bloom is off of the rose.

968 Russkilitlover  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:37:16am

re: #916 yma o hyd

You're telling me!

My husband always was at me when I bought another pair of shoes ... he thought shoes needed to be worn til they fell apart before one got another one!
Now I'm not in the Imelda-Marcos-League, but a nice pair of heels are a necessity of life!
Mind - I always enjoy hugely to look like a million dollars on the cheap: second-hand shops, sales, that sort of thing.
I wonder if Charles would let us have a fashion thread ...

I just started a new job and I needed a few new pieces of clothes and a new hair-do. Hubby kept saying no one at the new place has seen me or my clothes before so why did I need to get new? I tried explaining about confidence, image projection, etc., but wound up just saying...It's a chick thing.

969 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:37:21am

re: #964 buzzsawmonkey

If you can box with G-d, they're long enough.

Oh, if only you knew what had been going on in my prayer life lately...

But apparently you do.

970 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:38:46am

re: #939 vxbush

I realize that. No slight against you; just me having a very tiring day already.

{vxbush}
Hope the day gets better for you!

971 Kragar  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:39:00am

re: #963 Occasional Reader

"Always bet on black!"

-Wesley Snipes, in some lousy movie

Passenger 57

972 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:39:55am

re: #968 Russkilitlover

It is SO NOT A CHICK THING. People who get trapped in past decades fashion wise (and make-up wise for women) end up looking silly and absoultely do not get to the inner power circles in my experience. People notice these things. It's better to have a few current pieces each year, rather than hoarding stuff that doesn't fit, or is out of style. Grooming is really important. Hair gets dated, you can always tell who is stuck in the past, trying to look like they did at their "best" (or what they think was their best).

973 Bloodnok  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:40:40am

re: #963 Occasional Reader

"Always bet on black!"

-Wesley Snipes, in some lousy movie

Now, I also note that the most standard target that has a human figure on it (the one ICE uses for small arms qualifying) has a scruffy-looking white guy caricature on it (brandishing a pistol). He kind of looks like a 1940s cartoon version of a bad guy.

But maybe just one day, as I watch a black patron take a white silhouette target off the shelf, I should say, "look, even if it's Ed Begley Jr. coming through your bedroom window at 4 a.m., he's gonna produce a black silhouette."

Oh no! Why, Ed? WHY?

/terrified

974 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:41:07am

re: #972 WriterMom

It is SO NOT A CHICK THING. People who get trapped in past decades fashion wise (and make-up wise for women) end up looking silly and absoultely do not get to the inner power circles in my experience. People notice these things. It's better to have a few current pieces each year, rather than hoarding stuff that doesn't fit, or is out of style. Grooming is really important. Hair gets dated, you can always tell who is stuck in the past, trying to look like they did at their "best" (or what they think was their best).

I keep putting off cleaning out my closet and giving away my "thin" clothes. Now I'm going to do it.

975 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:41:21am

re: #970 yma o hyd

{vxbush}
Hope the day gets better for you!

A nap would go a long way...but that doesn't seem likely at work.

976 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:41:30am

re: #965 gonecamping

Don't know if Walgreen's is in your area, but it doesn't hurt to check the various chains for similar 'routine' specials and stock up when you can.

Walgreen's is a national chain based in Deerfield, Illinois (North Suburb of Chicago).

977 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:41:43am

re: #971 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Passenger 57

Hey, I liked that movie.

978 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:42:23am

re: #968 Russkilitlover

I just started a new job and I needed a few new pieces of clothes and a new hair-do. Hubby kept saying no one at the new place has seen me or my clothes before so why did I need to get new? I tried explaining about confidence, image projection, etc., but wound up just saying...It's a chick thing.

It is indeed!
Mind - some men do like not just shopping but shopping for clothes for themselves.
One literary hero, Samuel Pepys of Diary fame, describes to the last button and the last penny what new clothes he got for himself.
And that was around 1660 ...

979 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:42:39am

re: #954 vxbush

But I shop Goodwill, because I can actually afford that. I don't think I've paid retail on clothing in decades.

I always look for the sale & clearance tabs, myself! My girls love shopping thrift stores. They like random t-shirts printed with events or places where they've never been!
Along similar lines, my 18 yr. old was ecstatic when she found a 70's model banana seat, high handlebar bicycle for $5.00 at one of the local thrift stores. After $65.00 for new tires, she had herself quite a ride. I'm taking it to her college campus this weekend. I am picturing it parked on the bike racks between all the fancy ten-speeds and racing bikes!

980 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:43:04am

re: #972 WriterMom

It is SO NOT A CHICK THING. People who get trapped in past decades fashion wise

If it's a guy wearing a suit, who can tell?

The law firm I used to work at in NYC had one meeting room that contained portraits of all the Senior Partners of the firm going back to the 1880s. From about the late 1920s on, any of the guys could have strolled down 5th Avenue today wearing that exact same suit, and nobody would have batted an eye.

981 Kragar  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:43:06am

re: #977 Ward Cleaver

Hey, I liked that movie.

I was just naming the movie. OR is the one who called it lousy. I barely remember it.

983 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:43:39am

re: #978 yma o hyd

It is indeed!
Mind - some men do like not just shopping but shopping for clothes for themselves.
One literary hero, Samuel Pepys of Diary fame, describes to the last button and the last penny what new clothes he got for himself.
And that was around 1660 ...

And yet, when I had to clean out my dad's closet when he died last year, what did I found but every single pair of pants was blue. The exact same shade of blue. Every, single, last one.

And all the shirts were plaid. Yikes.

984 'Tired Guy  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:44:21am

I'm a lizard hatchling, and I lurk since I don't usually feel I have anything worthwhile to add. But the subject of saving money (#777, #798, #799) is near and dear to my heart:
1. I just cashed a Sams cashback check of nearly $1000 since I charge every single thing I can to the card (2% rebate card). I pay off all cards every month to avoid finance charges.
2. I buy every thing I can at Sams, then Wal-Mart, then HEB, then Walgreens etc. Sams prices (if I can use and store the bulk) is about 70% of the price elsewhere, and quality is sufficient. Produce quality is quite good.
3. All my regular bills are electronically charged to the Sams card, a backup VISA card or to my checking account. Retirement checks are auto-deposited. I use very few stamps.
4. I use QuickBooks (1997 version) to record every penny in or out. This is handy when trying to remember when I last bought running shoes, making budgets, etc.
5. I make sure there are no monthly service fees associated with checking or savings accounts. No ATM fees since not using cash.
6. We have two cars, a big one and a little one. We use the big one on the highway or when we're all together, and I use the little one around town. Gas milage is a factor of two different.


Oxy-moronic Quote of the Day
OMQOTD: "successful investor"- radio ad

985 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:44:32am

re: #979 redstateredneck

I always look for the sale & clearance tabs, myself! My girls love shopping thrift stores. They like random t-shirts printed with events or places where they've never been!
Along similar lines, my 18 yr. old was ecstatic when she found a 70's model banana seat, high handlebar bicycle for $5.00 at one of the local thrift stores. After $65.00 for new tires, she had herself quite a ride. I'm taking it to her college campus this weekend. I am picturing it parked on the bike racks between all the fancy ten-speeds and racing bikes!

Heh...classy.

986 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:45:00am

re: #932 Kenneth

Bad news in Obamalot:

I 2nd the threadworthyness of this.

987 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:45:13am

re: #971 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Passenger 57

Bingo!

I happened to channel surf across Wesley in The Art of Tax Evasion War last night. He plays a member of a super elite United Nations black ops team. Wow, how good an idea is that?!

988 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:45:28am

re: #974 Alouette

Alouette, whatever you have in your closet whether you are thin, or zaftig, or whatever, should make you look good and feel your best. Throw away anything that you don't feel good wearing, and same with old make up. It's amazing how a very brief consultation with an expert can really update your look. Make up trends really date women. I'm assuming you cover your hair-so the hair thing doesn't apply, but really-purging your closet of anything that really doesn't look good on you (colours, patterns, size) is important.

989 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:46:26am

re: #987 Occasional Reader

Bingo!

I happened to channel surf across Wesley in The Art of Tax Evasion War last night. He plays a member of a super elite United Nations black ops team. Wow, how good an idea is that?!

Black Ops? RACIST!

/

990 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:46:44am

re: #972 WriterMom

It is SO NOT A CHICK THING. People who get trapped in past decades fashion wise (and make-up wise for women) end up looking silly and absoultely do not get to the inner power circles in my experience. People notice these things. It's better to have a few current pieces each year, rather than hoarding stuff that doesn't fit, or is out of style. Grooming is really important. Hair gets dated, you can always tell who is stuck in the past, trying to look like they did at their "best" (or what they think was their best).

Grooming is important - as is wearing suitable clothes for the occasion.
Men (and females)can take a leaf or several out of Beau Brummel's book.
He said that wearing clean linen was more important than wearing velvet coats, he also said that an outfit suitable for the party was useless and unfashionable when worn on a coutnry outing - and the best tip ever was that one should never ever fiddle with one's clothes once one's left the house!

991 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:46:51am

re: #979 redstateredneck

I am picturing it parked on the bike racks between all the fancy ten-speeds and racing bikes!

"Ten-speed"... very 1970s.

992 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:47:17am
993 MJ  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:47:31am

re: #982 MJ

More here:
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

Interview with this Terror- supporter:
[Link: www.saudi-us-relations.org...]

For another puff piece, see the Washington Post's terror sympathizer
Dan Froomkin:

Chas Freeman’s selection to be chairman of the National Intelligence Council (first reported by Laura Rozen of Foreignpolicy.com) is notable not just for his surprising (and, to some, disturbing) even-handedness about the Middle East.

He's a fucking paid Saudi lobbyist but he's "even-handed".
[Link: blog.niemanwatchdog.org...]

994 Dianna  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:47:35am

re: #988 WriterMom

Yes, great advice.

Now, if I could just bear to throw out all the size fours.

995 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:47:48am

re: #937 sattv4u2
Senators Collins and Snowe, that's why. Sorry about your vacation home!

996 VegasRick  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:47:50am

re: #991 Occasional Reader

"Ten-speed"... very 1970s.

Do we have, like, 20 speeds today?
/

997 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:48:06am

re: #988 WriterMom

Throw away anything that you don't feel good wearing

Better... donate, or even sell. (But that's probably what you meant.)

998 Bloodnok  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:48:11am

re: #991 Occasional Reader

"Ten-speed"... very 1970s.

I had a 3-speed. Now that was transport.

999 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:48:17am

re: #975 vxbush

A nap would go a long way...but that doesn't seem likely at work.

You need your bosses to install a room for power naps!
Its proven (somewhere) that people work better if they can have a 15-minute nap during working hours.
Makes sense to me.

1000 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:48:32am

re: #980 Occasional Reader

So, the people in the portraits were impecably groomed, right? Properly fitting suits, nicely knotted ties, hair in place-facial hair groomed. Perfect. Men's suit fashions do change, though and so do tie widths and trends in knotting, also men's suit lapel widths and general shapes (narrow is big now-vests are back, double breasted-out) are a good indicator of era. Is this thread going to go fashion-that would be fabulous!

1001 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:48:45am

I don't know if this has been posted. It is a link for peeps interested in 'owning and carrying'-with financial assistance. so here it is:

Get your Gun

1002 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:49:05am

re: #950 Bubblehead II

Just went back up thread. Stinky took care of that problem.

Yes, just saw that. Thank you Stinky.

1003 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:49:33am

re: #997 Occasional Reader

Yes, of course-donate, give away, or throw...just don't keep it in your closet.

1004 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:50:07am

re: #990 yma o hyd

can take a leaf or several out of Beau Brummel's book

Hey, I happen to think I look pretty darn sharp today, thank you very much.

1005 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:50:10am

re: #980 Occasional Reader

If it's a guy wearing a suit, who can tell?

The law firm I used to work at in NYC had one meeting room that contained portraits of all the Senior Partners of the firm going back to the 1880s. From about the late 1920s on, any of the guys could have strolled down 5th Avenue today wearing that exact same suit, and nobody would have batted an eye.

Collar and lapel styles have changed.

1006 Kragar  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:50:10am

re: #987 Occasional Reader

Bingo!

I happened to channel surf across Wesley in The Art of Tax Evasion War last night. He plays a member of a super elite United Nations black ops team. Wow, how good an idea is that?!

Knew a guy who met him once, said he was a total asshole

1007 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:50:27am

re: #984 'Tired Guy

I'm a lizard hatchling, and I lurk since I don't usually feel I have anything worthwhile to add.


Worthwhile? Our posts are supposed to be worthwhile? Well, damn!

:D
Don't worry about it, newbie. Jump on in there!

1008 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:50:34am

re: #954 vxbush

But I shop Goodwill, because I can actually afford that. I don't think I've paid retail on clothing in decades.

I love yardsales and discount stores.
I've found some marvelous bargains at Goodwill. All my "repair" clothes are from Goodwill - coveralls, shirts, brand new work boots, head covers.
I've also found some great gifts that are not run of the mill. When I got divorced and lost 30 lbs in a month, I bought a half dozen pair of shorts for 10 bucks. I bought my dressers from St Vincent. Perfect size for my room.

1009 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:50:37am

re: #993 MJ

For another puff piece, see the Washington Post's terror sympathizer
Dan Froomkin:

Chas Freeman’s selection to be chairman of the National Intelligence Council (first reported by Laura Rozen of Foreignpolicy.com) is notable not just for his surprising (and, to some, disturbing) even-handedness about the Middle East.

He's a fucking paid Saudi lobbyist but he's "even-handed".
[Link: blog.niemanwatchdog.org...]

Yes, that deserves its own thread. Freeman must be delegitimized. The GOP needs to stop talking about working with Obama and get to demonizing his most radical aides. It'll make it much easier to stop Obama and it'll fire up the base.

1010 Kragar  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:51:09am

re: #1007 redstateredneck

Worthwhile? Our posts are supposed to be worthwhile? Well, damn!

Well, I'm screwed then

1011 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:51:21am
1012 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:51:35am

re: #991 Occasional Reader

"Ten-speed"... very 1970s.

Whatever! I guess that shows how much I know about bikes. The last time I rode one was probably in the 70's!

1013 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:51:36am

re: #990 yma o hyd

Grooming is important - as is wearing suitable clothes for the occasion.
Men (and females)can take a leaf or several out of Beau Brummel's book.
He said that wearing clean linen was more important than wearing velvet coats, he also said that an outfit suitable for the party was useless and unfashionable when worn on a coutnry outing - and the best tip ever was that one should never ever fiddle with one's clothes once one's left the house!

Okay, but here's the thing. I hate, hate hate business clothes. With a passion. I am never comfortable in them. And I've been fortunate in that I'm at a job where I can wear jeans and a nice shirt (because I'm always moving and working on computers) and get away with that. I rather hate how you have to dress up to be in management. Blech.

1014 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:51:49am

re: #1004 Occasional Reader

LOL. I picture you more as a Brooks Brothers/Fitzgerald type. I guess I was waaay off.

1015 Bloodnok  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:51:59am

re: #1000 WriterMom

So, the people in the portraits were impecably groomed, right? Properly fitting suits, nicely knotted ties, hair in place-facial hair groomed. Perfect. Men's suit fashions do change, though and so do tie widths and trends in knotting, also men's suit lapel widths and general shapes (narrow is big now-vests are back, double breasted-out) are a good indicator of era. Is this thread going to go fashion-that would be fabulous!

Watch any episode of Barney Miller for a textbook example of WIDE necktie knots. It's a riot.

1016 Miss Trixie  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:52:00am

re: #895 Eowyn2

east, midwest, west Canada?

Eastern Ontario - Ottawa, to be exact. :) And I'm an Alberta Girl in my heart - I miss The Rocks.

1017 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:52:13am

re: #916 yma o hyd

You're telling me!

My husband always was at me when I bought another pair of shoes ... he thought shoes needed to be worn til they fell apart before one got another one!
Now I'm not in the Imelda-Marcos-League, but a nice pair of heels are a necessity of life!
Mind - I always enjoy hugely to look like a million dollars on the cheap: second-hand shops, sales, that sort of thing.
I wonder if Charles would let us have a fashion thread ...

The problem we have here is that even when shopping on the cheap, excess is still excess. My wife has a shoe fetish... and she does most of her shopping at second-hand shops. She has sooo many shoes (we won't talk about purses... that's a whole different discussion) that I was constantly tripping over them because they were everywhere. The closet wasn't enough! I tried to solve this problem by building a set of four shelves that are 12 feet long (48 feet of shoe storage) for her to put her shoes on. We agreed that any shoes that she couldn't get on the shelves would be given away to charity. Well, the shelves went up and were immediately filled. The excess (three 30 gallon garbage bags full) went to the local thrift store.

Roll the clock forward one year... and guess what? The shelves are full, and now I am once again tripping over shoes EVERYWHERE. Your husband is correct, there is no need for that many shoes! Half of them will only be worn once or twice and then drift off into obscurity.

Us sensible men know that we need two pair of dress shoes, one brown and one black. A couple pair of sneakers, one for the gym and one for the road, and a couple pair of work boots. Sandals or "flip-flops" are optional.

An honest question: Why do women (and some men) feel that just because something is inexpensive (shoes at the thrift store) you have to buy two or three or more instead of just what you need? I have asked my wife this question and the answer is always the same... "because I do need them", followed by absolutely no clarification.

I guess my definition of need must be a little different.

1018 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:52:13am

re: #1000 WriterMom

Is this thread going to go fashion-that would be fabulous!

oh my god what have i done

Uh... GUNS! Yeah, that's it! Mossberg 500 series vs. Remington 870... opinions?

/whew that was close

1019 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:52:18am

re: #1003 WriterMom

Yes, of course-donate, give away, or throw...just don't keep it in your closet.

Except for one or two top-quality, highly stylish outfits.
They may be out-of-date today, but will become fashionable again, thats the way things work.
I deeply regret having given away some 1970 Biba clothes ...

1020 smokefire  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:52:34am

According to MA. media outlets, most of the MA. general Assembly is against the 19 cent gas tax

1021 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:52:38am

re: #999 yma o hyd

You need your bosses to install a room for power naps!
Its proven (somewhere) that people work better if they can have a 15-minute nap during working hours.
Makes sense to me.

Fifteen minutes? Please. I never nap less than 2 hours.

1022 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:53:35am

re: #982 MJ
Hey MJ - that link to GatewayPundit was especially illuminating, thank you!

1023 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:53:43am

re: #1018 Occasional Reader

Try, but it's OUT THERE. Bwahahahhahahaha!

1024 McJenny50  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:54:29am

re: #777 Leonidas Hoplite

I have a question for all my Lizard friends. I have been searching for ways to cut back my expenses and am wondering what things all of you are doing to cut back and save, be they little or small.

I don't let my dishwasher "dry". After the final drain, I open the door and let the dishes air dry.

I wash all the clothes in cold water

Get an inexpensive drying rack for laundry. Hang things on it that don't need ironing (socks, underwear). You can consolidate a couple loads in the dryer if you get a bunch of these items out of the mix.

Be johnny-on-the-spot when the dryer shuts off and hang up whatever you can while they are still warm. Most of the time the few wrinkles that you see will "hang out" so you don't have to iron them.

I always turn the cold water on when washing my hands. I noticed that by the time the hot water started coming through, I was done anyway. Every time you draw hot water out of the heater, cold water enters and the heater starts up.

The town I live in has high water rates. My husband used a razor and was inclined to let the water run almost full blast while shaving. Finally got him trained to turn the water on only when rinsing the blade.

Look for your nearest Dollar General. Great place for cheap brand name cleaning supplies, paper products, personal products, snacks and a bunch of other things. I get a lot of generic benedryl there and it is about 1/4 the cost as regular benedryl. (Check the ingredients for name brand and generic items. If the ingredients are the same, save the $$ and buy generic) Check out some off brands for things like laundry detergent. I use Trend and it is a lot less expensive than Tide, etc. and seems to work just as well.

Unplug things you don't use often like your phone charger. I sometimes unplug my coffee maker. It is programmable so, if it's not programed to turn on in the morning, it's still using (very small amount granted) electricity to run the clock. Now that the kids are out of the house, I have unplugged the alarm clocks that are in the spare bedrooms. Every little bit helps.

1025 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:55:14am

re: #1017 Amer-I-Can

That clearly borders on obsessive/compulsive behaviour in my opinion. Don't facilitate the obsession by building shelves.

1026 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:55:29am

re: #1006 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Knew a guy who met him once, said he was a total asshole

I was just about to post the same. A guy sitting next to me on a flight once told me that he was on a flight with Snipes a few months before. First, Snipes tried to get the guy to give up his (already assigned) seat and give it to his bodyguard. The guy refused. Snipes grudgingly, finally sat down next to him. He (Snipes) only deigned to talk to him after noticing the scar tissue on his knuckles, and asked if he was a martial artist. The guy said, sort of, he was former USAF PJ and did a lot of CQB training. This apparently satisified Snipes' "macho" quotient, so he started telling the guy how utterly great he was at martial arts (which is apparently true, but most real, high-level martial artists I've met don't brag about it). Just kind of an all-around jerk.

1027 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:56:02am

re: #1017 Amer-I-Can

Aww - no, I never had that many shoes!
Sports shoes do get worn until they die, its just the quirky on-off pair which catches my eyes and needs to be bought.
And no, I never get several of the same things, be it skirts, shoes, tops, just because they're cheap.
(Except white T-shirts ... one can never have enough white T-shirts!)

1028 Russkilitlover  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:56:11am

re: #994 Dianna

Yes, great advice.

Now, if I could just bear to throw out all the size fours.

I'm 5'11, the last time I was a size 4 was when I was, well, 4! But I keep my size 8 in my closet still...what can I say, I HOPE I can CHANGE into them someday!

1029 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:56:30am
1030 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:57:14am

re: #1014 WriterMom

LOL. I picture you more as a Brooks Brothers/Fitzgerald type. I guess I was waaay off.

Actually, I find Brooks Brothers kind of stodgy. Not familiar with Fitzgerald. I like the Eye-Talians.

1031 realwest  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:57:48am

re: #1018 Occasional Reader Yeah, I gotta say O.R. it's YOUR fault that we have all this fashion stuff out here today!
You're penance is to schedule a "business" trip to Chicago so you can attend the Chicago Tea Party tomorrow from 11:00AM to 12:20 PM at Daley Plaza!

1032 vxbush  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:58:02am

re: #1028 Russkilitlover

I'm 5'11, the last time I was a size 4 was when I was, well, 4! But I keep my size 8 in my closet still...what can I say, I HOPE I can CHANGE into them someday!

Heh. I have never been any size in the single digits--except for when I was extremely ill in high school and had lost a lot of blood.

1033 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:58:06am

re: #1018 Occasional Reader

Hi-cap magazines for the Ruger Mini-14 with the Hell Fire trigger system

1034 Russkilitlover  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:58:31am

re: #1018 Occasional Reader

oh my god what have i done

Uh... GUNS! Yeah, that's it! Mossberg 500 series vs. Remington 870... opinions?

/whew that was close

Ah! Accessories! My favorite part of fashion.

1035 WestTexas  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:58:31am

WARNING: The following post is a rant!


OK, so yesterday morning my shift at the Port of Houston ended. I left work and drove straight to a friend's apartment to visit. They are a married couple I have known since high school. The husband is an extremely intelligent man who is about to finish his degree in International Business from U of H. We generally get around to politics and economics pretty quickly in our conversations. Yesterday was no different. For some reason I am unable to determine he is convinced that the government taking over private industries poses no threat to anyone in this country. As he put it, "As long as my material quality of life does not suffer, I do not care if the government takes them over." Now I try to attribute this to our age bracket, we are both currently twenty five, but then I remember how intelligent he is and it just baffles me to no end. To complicate my confusion yesterday, a good friend of ours was over there visiting as well. She is very well read and has lived around the world. She literally said that she enjoyed the freedom of European countries more than America! She is currently in the middle of reading Atlas Shrugged, and said that she could see how we were heading down the path that Ayn Rand laid out, but that she agrees with what we are doing. The sheer ignorance of my friends is astounding. They are both college educated and I understand the politics and economics of the situation better than both of them combined. It is frustrating to no end. I just want to grab them by their collars and shake some sense into them. I feel like Paul Revere riding in and screaming "The socialist are coming, the socialist are coming!" No one is listening though. I show them direct evidence of the way that we are about to be subjugated, and they say that they welcome it. HAS THE ENTIRE WORLD LOST IT'S COLLECTIVE MINDS! They are convinced that America is not the place that it is, and that our new socialist overlords have a better plan. It makes me sick to my stomach that it has come to this. It feels like LGF is the only place in the world that sanity comes through and shines. Thank God for that, but it is not enough. We have to take action now or all will be lost. GOD BLESS AMERICA, and to hell with anyone who doesn't agree.

WestTexas

1036 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:58:36am

re: #1028 Russkilitlover

I'm 5'11, the last time I was a size 4 was when I was, well, 4! But I keep my size 8 in my closet still...what can I say, I HOPE I can CHANGE into them someday!

I know that! Its called 'aspirational piece'. I've got a pair of size 8 trousers (thats a 6 in the USA, I think).
Its a good whip to keep one eating sensibly and cutting out choccies and cakes ...

1037 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:58:52am

re: #982 MJ

Very good. I've sent a recommendation to Charles on this story. I hope he runs a thread on it. this is very possibly the worse pick Obama has made yet for his Cabinet & senior advisers.

1038 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:59:14am

re: #995 realwest

Senators Collins and Snowe, that's why. Sorry about your vacation home!

They don't have any impact on that at all, as far as I've been able to tell. I've had the property (a very small cottage on an island off the coast of Portland) for decades. It's a summer place only. Unless I were to dig a well, I onlt have what they call "seasonal water". They turn the water on mid-to late May and shut it off mid Oct.

1039 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 8:59:59am
1040 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:00:11am

re: #1025 WriterMom

That clearly borders on obsessive/compulsive behaviour in my opinion. Don't facilitate the obsession by building shelves.

Dang! NOW you tell me! LOL

1041 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:00:18am

re: #1029 buzzsawmonkey

vents (rear, side, or none

Me, I've always had a rear vent. Never seen anyone with a side vent. And none? Sheesh, that must be uncomfortable, especially after eating tacos.

1042 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:00:43am

re: #1018 Occasional Reader

oh my god what have i done

Uh... GUNS! Yeah, that's it! Mossberg 500 series vs. Remington 870... opinions?

/whew that was close

See my post here, OR...:>))

re: #1001 Pietr

1043 J.S.  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:01:29am

CNN's Newsroom program on February 24, 2009 (check out CNN's transcripts for the broadcast) had on CNN's financial adviser, Gerri Willis who provided financial tips. The first thing she suggested was to track your money (determine how it is being spent -- every penny), then categorize the expenditures (in terms of percentages -- so, for example, housing, utilities, etc, should not exceed 40 percent -- the percentage figures are given for a variety of categories -- check out the transcript here...) And, Gerri Willis also noted that there's a free Quicken program on the Internet which allows you to track your spending, etc.

1044 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:01:46am

re: #1041 Occasional Reader

Me, I've always had a rear vent. Never seen anyone with a side vent. And none? Sheesh, that must be uncomfortable, especially after eating tacos.


Between that and cow flatulance, we'll NEVER get rid of Global Warming!

1045 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:02:05am

re: #1034 Russkilitlover

Ah! Accessories! My favorite part of fashion.

Exactly! What's "in" this year... Streamlight or Surefire? Aimpoint or EOTech? Which will be the most absolutely fabulous gracing this fall's Picatinny rails?

1046 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:02:07am
1047 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:02:50am

Try as he may, OR STILL COMES BACK TO FASHION.

1048 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:02:58am

re: #1035 WestTexas
Do you find that true of most people your age? It seems to be the norm for most of my daughter's friends. And she occasionally lapses into a little of that and I have to have a discussion with her.

1049 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:03:13am

re: #1035 WestTexas

Political views are not about intelligence, they are all about morality, ethics & psychology.

1050 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:04:26am

re: #1039 buzzsawmonkey

Ha! So you do notice the distinctions in menswear.

Yes, to some degree, and I do (I think) dress pretty well, for business or "fancy" social. But I just don't see mens' suits as changing all that much. I think my suits look pretty good, but are not going to be either cutting-edge fashion now, or horribly out of fashion four years from now. I stay away from what I consider to be the silly fashion trends (like those goofy little watch pockets they were pushing on some English suits last year... puhleeze).

1051 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:04:50am
1052 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:05:09am

re: #1044 sattv4u2

Between that and cow flatulance, we'll NEVER get rid of Global Warming!

It's official, it's we now have a cow flatulence thread!

1053 WestTexas  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:05:29am

re: #1048 redstateredneck

Yes I do. It is astounding. I am not college educated. I have had a paying job since I was eleven. (My mom was a single mom with four boys) The people in my age group are a bunch of morons though. They feel that everything should be handed to them and when you ask them to earn it they get an attitude. It is disgusting.

1054 WestTexas  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:06:08am

re: #1051 buzzsawmonkey

Excellent point sir.

1055 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:06:23am

re: #1053 WestTexas

I am not college educated.
Well, there you go. You missed out on the brainwashing that takes place at most colleges and universities.

1056 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:08:21am

re: #1053 WestTexas

Nice rant, and you are a really neat person. Thanks for sharing your story. I salute your hard work and clear thinking.

1057 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:09:13am
1058 WestTexas  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:09:21am

re: #1055 redstateredneck

You know, I have felt that way the last couple of years. For a few years after my short stint at college I felt as if I had wasted my life by not going. Now I thank God that I haven't. I am able to educate myself better than some liberal wind bag that I pay massive sums of money to.

1059 WestTexas  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:10:31am

re: #1056 WriterMom

Thank you. I enjoy just about everyone here. I love how so many different view points can come together on a common ground. It is a blessing.

1060 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:11:23am

re: #948 yma o hyd

Is it really!

:-)))

I nearly peed my pants when I saw that sentence as the last entry in a list of 'Useful Welsh Phrases' whilst looking for the word(s) for 'You're Welcome".

1061 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:12:13am

re: #1057 buzzsawmonkey

These things are cyclical. The short two-button jacket with peaked lapels that is hot at the moment--and the relatively narrow flat-front pants that go with it--are pretty close copies of the standard men's suit of 1925. The "continental" look of the early '60s, with its narrow lapels and high three-button closure, was similar to the Edwardian sack suit worn just prior to WWI. The belt-in-the-back, bi-swing shoulder jackets of the early-mid '70s were similar to jackets worn in the early-mid '30s, though the fabrics were not nearly as good.

buzzsawmonkey is actually Tim Gunn.

1062 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:12:44am

re: #1053 WestTexas

You've been working since you were eleven? It seems to me your college educated friends missed an important lesson you got early on.

1063 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:13:03am

re: #1058 WestTexas

You know, I have felt that way the last couple of years. For a few years after my short stint at college I felt as if I had wasted my life by not going. Now I thank God that I haven't. I am able to educate myself better than some liberal wind bag that I pay massive sums of money to.

And you have a work ethic. Can't learn that in a classroom.

1064 WestTexas  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:15:18am

re: #1062 Kenneth

Well they are neat and fun people. I love them very much. We spent some important years together. They do not hold my views against me, nor do I hold theirs against them. That is special, but frustrating at times. :-)

1065 WestTexas  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:16:50am

re: #1063 redstateredneck

Very true. When people ask my mom why her boys are so well behaved and adjusted, she answers "I believe in child labor, and child abuse." The abuse is a joke, but the labor works very well.

1066 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:17:56am

re: #1035 WestTexas

I think a big part of the problem is twofold. 1) Almost no one in this country has lived under an oppressive government and therfore do not understand the danger of an expansive, intrusive governemnt and the threat that it poses to individula liberty (the exception to this is a few acquaintances I have who emmigrated from Russia and are vehemently against the Democrats), and 2) history is effectively not taught anymore.

1067 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:18:36am
1068 chicago blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:19:26am

*giving up for a moment with writer's block and coming back to the cocktail party with her money saving tips*

-I have a bottle in my fridge for any leftover red wine - you know how there may be a little left over in a bottle or you get some that's just "eh"? I put it all in there and it's great for cooking tomato sauce.
-Dried breadbreadsticks can be toasted into croutons.
-Stale crackers and the like can be pulsed in a food processor to make breadcrumbs & breading.
-I have a SIL that loves Christmas ornaments, esp. nativities. I get them after Christmas and keep them until next year. Felt a little funny, until I got her a beautiful $70 one for $15.

OK, that's all I got...

1069 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:21:05am

re: #1064 WestTexas

I know what you mean. I have similar friends, and some fairly lefty family members. Sometimes you just have to put stuff aside to get along.

1070 lurking faith  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:21:48am

re: #855 Occasional Reader

So am I completely nuts, in that I haven't cut back on my spending?

OR, you are not nuts to continue your lifestyle if your position is secure.

Mr. faith and I are being slightly more frugal than before, due to my recent job loss, but we can live on one salary (we budgeted our housing costs with that requirement) so we are only making minor modifications to cut out some waste. We can still eat out once or twice a week, and buy whatever we really need. Such as this shiny new computer I am sitting at. (It vastly improves the job search to have a computer that runs current programs and doesn't crash thrice daily.) But we're reining in the impulse buys.

I used to determine whether to buy something by deciding whether I would be sorry I had bought an item six months down the road. Now I try to decide whether I would miss the item six months down the road, if I didn't buy it.

1071 WestTexas  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:21:58am

re: #1066 Leonidas Hoplite

Very true, and applicable to the rant above. I am a history lover, and they dismiss it as a boring, stale topic. When we were discussing Atlas Shrugged, Christine explained it as the author taking the idea of socialism to the worst extent it could go. I had to explain to her that it is what Ayn Rand experienced as a child growing up in the USSR.

1072 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:24:37am

re: #1066 Leonidas Hoplite

history is effectively not taught anymore.

Oooo, don't get me started...

1073 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:30:04am

re: #1071 WestTexas

Very true, and applicable to the rant above. I am a history lover, and they dismiss it as a boring, stale topic. When we were discussing Atlas Shrugged, Christine explained it as the author taking the idea of socialism to the worst extent it could go. I had to explain to her that it is what Ayn Rand experienced as a child growing up in the USSR.

Jeez, it seems to me that Ayn Rand and her views are the exact opposite of the worst extent that socialism can go. If anything, communism is that.

1074 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:32:01am
1075 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:37:34am

re: #1067 Iron Fist

re: #1001 Pietr

Hey, Iron Fist-have you checked this out? If you find it worthwhile, I know you'll repost the link-I've been busy, so haven't totally checked it out-would like someone I respect to give input...

I don't know if this has been posted. It is a link for peeps interested in 'owning and carrying'-with financial assistance. so here it is:

Get your Gun

1076 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:38:05am
1077 WestTexas  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:41:45am

re: #1073 Leonidas Hoplite

I never picked up the socialist vibe from her. I always found her writing to aim toward individual freedom and self reliance. Get out of the way of the individual and let them find their own way to build their lives and their wealth. So to me it strikes down the ideas and fantasies of the left.

1078 Pietr  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:48:26am

re: #1076 Iron Fist

I've never seen that. Maybe it's more of a Yankee kind of thing than a black/white thing. That said, I have seen white silhouettes that had vital organs sketched on the torso instead of the ten-ring thing. Instead of just drilling them in the chest, you can aim at general organs (heart and liver come readily to mind) to try and get your hits causing lasting damage or (prefferably) rapid blood-loss and shock leading to a quick (and mostly painless) death.

I took a lady I worked with to the range to fire-circa 1979-and had her firing on a silhouette-and she asked "why this-and not a bullseye?". I replied that she wouldn't see a bullseye, on her attacker in the house-just this outline! I taught her to aim at 'center mass' and empty her weapon; once she was accurate, I went to stage 2. I taught her to shoot center mass until the last 2 in the clip-then aim at the face, roll out of bed, reload, and empty it between both while evading. I thought I taught her well...was I wrong?

1079 Claire  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 9:51:53am

The small efforts to cut back are what are strangling small businesses. Every thing you don't buy puts a bigger strain on them. I think this is an evolutionary cycle in which excess gets wrung out of the system, and the businesses that survive will emerge stronger, but it's very painful now (we own a small business) and is going to get worse. Every small business that goes extinct takes jobs and tax revenue with them and makes the owners less likely to try a business again.

My only practical suggestions (since everybody feels like it's time to batten down the hatches) would be to not buy stuff from China, cut back on energy usage- I see this as freeing up cash that can be spent normally, and probably doesn't hurt power plant employment and when buying, go for quality and long usable life, not cheap price, but unless you are in danger of losing your job, just live as normally as possible.

1080 lurking faith  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 10:10:34am

re: #1017 Amer-I-Can

I need a bajillion pairs of shoes because I have sensitive feet. I cannot wear the same shoes two days in a row, or more than twice in a given week, unless I want to be in pain for the next month.

Add to this the fact that a woman needs different types of shoes to wear with pants that need heels vs. pants that need flats vs. skirts vs. evening wear, and is expected to wear "summery" looking shoes in warm weather, and it turns out that even if I stick to brown and black, it takes me a couple dozen pairs of shoes just to get by.

I can be unemployed with only a couple of really good pairs of shoes, for interviews. But I can't hold a full-time office job without a closet full. This area isn't exactly high style, but "business casual" here still requires a tailored look.

1081 lurking faith  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 10:25:41am

re: #1079 Claire
I get your point, but Mr. faith and I have just lost half our combined income. So even though we were already being careful, since we were saving very intently with the goal of buying a house, we have to cut out waste in order to avoid dipping into our savings on those inevitable rainy day occasions, like car repairs or sudden vacuum cleaner death.

I count us fortunate (although planning has a lot more to do with it than luck) that we can still buy what we need, when we need it, and pay off our credit cards in full every month.

I completely agree with you about buying quality, though. I learned the hard way that it's generally cheaper in the long run to buy quality once than to buy cheap and replace frequently.

1082 sjm_888  Thu, Feb 26, 2009 11:18:34am

re: #791 Ward Cleaver

Bookmark worthy!


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