That Hitch is crazy.

He should've kick him in the leg and broken his knee.

That's easy.

He's more in his element back in Tennessee.

No problem for Obama though. He's loves Syria. Why, he just pleaded with them to allow new talks to start:

AA/S Jeffrey Feltman Meeting with Syrian Ambassador Imad Mustafa (Taken Question)

Robert Wood

Acting Department Spokesman, Office of the Spokesman

Bureau of Public Affairs

Washington, DC

February 25, 2009

Question: Has the Syrian Ambassador agreed to a meeting with Acting Assistant Secretary Feltman?

Answer: Acting Assistant Secretary Jeffrey Feltman and Syrian Ambassador Imad Mustafa are scheduled to meet the morning of Thursday, February 26 at the State Department.

There remain key differences between our two governments, including our concerns about Syria’s support to terrorist groups and networks, Syria’s acquisition of nuclear and non-conventional weaponry, interference in Lebanon and worsening human rights situation.

This meeting is an opportunity to use dialogue to discuss these concerns.

[Link: www.state.gov...]

Very disappointed in Hitch for not assaulting his assailant.

Fantastic article.

Hopefully they'll unclench soon enough.

Nice job Hitch!

re: #4 MJ

No problem for Obama though. He's loves Syria. Why, he just pleaded with them to allow new talks to start:

AA/S Jeffrey Feltman Meeting with Syrian Ambassador Imad Mustafa (Taken Question)

Robert Wood

Acting Department Spokesman, Office of the Spokesman

Bureau of Public Affairs

Washington, DC

February 25, 2009

Question: Has the Syrian Ambassador agreed to a meeting with Acting Assistant Secretary Feltman?

Answer: Acting Assistant Secretary Jeffrey Feltman and Syrian Ambassador Imad Mustafa are scheduled to meet the morning of Thursday, February 26 at the State Department.

There remain key differences between our two governments, including our concerns about Syria’s support to terrorist groups and networks, Syria’s acquisition of nuclear and non-conventional weaponry, interference in Lebanon and worsening human rights situation.

This meeting is an opportunity to use dialogue to discuss these concerns.

[Link: www.state.gov...]

The word "Democracy" will not be uttered.

The US supports minority totalitarian dictatorships- and the Syrian people will hate us for it.

Long live the Alawites!

Good work, Michael! Talk about thinking on your feet.

Hitchens can be a mercurial fellow and very annoying at times - however it can be good to have him on your side.

What cowards. Hitch could have taken them all, one at a time... and Totten doesn't look like he would be a slouch. It is the "element of fear" that continues to motivate these groups, and that won't change unless more people stand up to them.

Glad everyone is OK.

Excellent. The real treat will be Hitch's account though.

I'm glad they all got out of it in reasonable condition.

re: #13 Dianna

I'm glad they all got out of it in reasonable condition.

Amen to that.

re: #3 Ward Cleaver

He's more in his element back in Tennessee.

That's the Onion. What's it based on? Just Hitchens' reputation for drinking?

It ought to be interesting to listen to Hitch in the next few weeks. Wonder if he'll go full-on anti-Islamic as a result.

If they just would have taken Washingtons directive and talked nicely to them.

/sarc

Now I know where Hitchens was on. Guest on Imus in the morning several times.

re: #5 BLBfootballs

Very disappointed in Hitch for not assaulting his assailant.

Fantastic article.

He was a bit outnumbered, and he's not a vigorous fellow.

Why did I originally think that this happened in Syria?

My bad.

re: #5 BLBfootballs

Very disappointed in Hitch for not assaulting his assailant.

Fantastic article.

Ever try fighting four or five at once? It's not as easy as Hollywood makes it out to be.

"...call me old fashioned if you will, but my line is that swastika posters are to be defaced or torn down."

Hitchens is the Energizer Bunny of foul, and I have to admit I like him.

“Yes,” Christopher said. “They’re the worst. And also a Greek Orthodox repressed homosexual wankers organization, I think.”

I have to write that one down.

re: #2 Ben Hur

He should've kick him in the leg and broken his knee.

That's easy.

This was sarcasm, BTW.

Hitch is one of my favorite liberals. Strongly anti-fascist. I don't like some of his positions (he's a devout atheist) but he's always interesting and very intelligent.

When this story broke, I said Hitch was a dummy for getting drunk in a Lebanon and acting stupid, or something to that effect. I withdraw that statement and apologize. The man has balls.

Some SSNP members claim the emblem on their flag isn’t a swastika, but a cyclone. Many say they cannot be National Socialists, as were the Nazis, because they identify instead as Social Nationalists, whatever that means.

LOL

Some SSNP members claim the emblem on their flag isn’t a swastika, but a cyclone. Many say they cannot be National Socialists, as were the Nazis, because they identify instead as Social Nationalists, whatever that means.

Clever little bastards, ain't they?

/no, not really

re: #26 Jimmah

LOL

Oh, maybe they go: heil seig! instead.

re: #27 stevieray

Clever little bastards, ain't they?

/no, not really

They're the People's Front of Judea!

re: #15 Dianna

That's the Onion. What's it based on? Just Hitchens' reputation for drinking?

The drinking thing, and poking fun at his intellectualism. It's one of my favorite articles from The Onion. I have to pull it out whenever there's a thread about Hitch.

Bullies in groups.

Hitchens should learn Krav Maga.

re: #20 Ben Hur

Why did I originally think that this happened in Syria?

My bad.

This was a Syrian-backed group which attacked Hitchens. Syria controls this part of Lebanon.

re: #26 Jimmah

Pretty much, calling them all c***suckers covers all the bases for me.

re: #32 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hitchens should learn Krav Maga.

I don't know if Hitch is non-violent in philosophy, but this incident ought to remove that glitch from him, imo.

re: #33 MJ

This was a Syrian-backed group which attacked Hitchens. Syria controls this part of Lebanon.

Well, that changes my position slightly.

I posted a sh*tload of comments under the impression that they were in Syria.

symbol looks more like a hurricane symbol than a swatstika[Link: nhllogos.blogspot.com...]

re: #32 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hitchens should learn Krav Maga.

I looked it up on the Web sometime back (Krav Maga), and there's actually a place around here that teaches it.

re: #35 Golem Akbar

Krav teaches you to avoid a fight if you can, but if you're attacked, kick ass using simple, easy to learn moves.

re: #36 Ben Hur

Well, that changes my position slightly.

I posted a sh*tload of comments under the impression that they were in Syria.

Same-same

re: #32 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hitchens should learn Krav Maga.

Totten should, too.

“My attitude to posters with swastikas on them,” he later told Alice Fordham at NOW Lebanon, “has always been the same. They should be ripped down.”

Good on ya.
You can't say he isn't courageous.
He won megapoints with me when he told Sullivan to stop being such a lesbian.
heh.

re: #32 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hitchens should learn Krav Maga.

Hmmm, that is not taught in many places... and private lessons are expensive.

re: #23 Ben Hur

This was sarcasm, BTW.

They still should have pummeled the first guy to come up. If you think that you are seeing a hostile lookout, neutralize them as fast as possible. You might be able to prevent the arrival of reinforcements that way.

But what were they wearing......oops, wrong thread.

re: #43 brookly red

Hmmm, that is not taught in many places... and private lessons are expensive.

I was going to take lessons, but even the classes are expensive.

re: #32 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hitchens should learn Krav Maga.

He'd have to stay sober to improve his balance.

They [SSNP] wish to resurrect the ancient pre-Islamic and pre-Arabic Syria and annex Lebanon, Cyprus, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Israel, and parts of Turkey and Egypt to Damascus.

Sounds reasonable, doesn't it?...what could possibly go wrong with such a plan?

/ / /

I must confess, I rip down posters put up by commies. And there are no shortages of them here. Down they go. Mostly International Action.

I've met Jonathan Foreman. Very smart guy, but not - my impression is - exactly a street fighter. Hitch needs to pal around with some ex-Golani guys...

“My attitude to posters with swastikas on them,” he later told Alice Fordham at NOW Lebanon, “has always been the same. They should be ripped down.”

They should be classified as hate crime items, not unlike a hangman's noose.

re: #47 Dianna

He'd have to stay sober to improve his balance.

The Drunken Master.

re: #28 Golem Akbar

Oh, maybe they go: heil seig! instead.

Yes, we've got them all wrong - they're not neo-nazis, they're nazi-neos.

re: #21 Honorary Yooper
Indeed, fighting four or five at once is a losing proposition for most folks. OTOH, if you're the one being beaten y'all ought to pick out one of your assailants and do your very best to seriously injure or kill him. Sorry, but that will have a "chilling" effect on the remaining thugs - most times 4 guys jump one guy and expect to have nothing more than a beat down of that one guy. But if that one guy should, for example, gouge out one of their eyes, or give 'em a stiff knuckles straight forward shot to the throat (making it near impossible for him to do more that huff and wheeze for quite a while) it changes the entire scenario. If the remaining 3 thugs decide to escalate it, well then you're in deep shit - but not much deeper than you were; that kind of 4 on 1 beat down can kill you easily; at least you can take comfort from taking one of 'em out.

re: #50 Occasional Reader

I've met Jonathan Foreman. Very smart guy, but not - my impression is - exactly a street fighter. Hitch needs to pal around with some ex-Golani guys...

Hitchens doesn't much like Israel.

re: #49 rawmuse

I must confess, I rip down posters put up by commies. And there are no shortages of them here. Down they go. Mostly International Action.

You mean International ANSWER?

Yep, I pull those suckers down, too, without hesitation. Or, if they're the wheat paste ones that are semi-permanently defacing public property, I shred the face of 'em with my folding knife.

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

They still should have pummeled the first guy to come up. If you think that you are seeing a hostile lookout, neutralize them as fast as possible. You might be able to prevent the arrival of reinforcements that way.

One series of training I received while overseas said the best form of self defense was you could use was immobilize and run. You dont stick around for the fight, you drop the guy fast and high tail it. We were all laughing about it at the time, but the instructor knew his stuff.

re: #53 Jimmah

Yes, we've got them all wrong - they're not neo-nazis, they're nazi-neos.

So, they're Kenanu Reeves gone bad? :)

re: #54 realwest

When all else fails, a swift kick in the you know where, should at least slow someone down.

“Anyway,” he said, “call me old fashioned if you will, but my line is that swastika posters are to be defaced or torn down. I mean, what other choice do you have? I'd like to think I'd have done that if I had known it was being guarded by people who are swastika fanciers.

I'm totally agreed with Hitch. These posters apart from everything else seem to be a territorial claim.

Someone shoot me.

Is Pasta Humanitarian Aid?

(IsraelNN.com) American reporters hammered the State Department on Wednesday on Israel’s apparent exclusion of pasta as being part of humanitarian aid. In further questioning by CNN reporter Elise Labott, she claimed that Israel may not be honoring a ceasefire agreement by limiting aid, although no such agreement exists. The State Department did not correct her.

Not giving them pasta breaks the cease-fire.

Qassams and mortars (more attacks just yesterday) do not.

re: #51 smokefire

“My attitude to posters with swastikas on them,” he later told Alice Fordham at NOW Lebanon, “has always been the same. They should be ripped down.”

They should be classified as hate crime items, not unlike a hangman's noose.

But they're not swastikas, they're cyclones!

/apologists

I admire Christopher for this. There should be some things in this
world which should not be tolerated. I would love to see
every athlete boycott sporting events in Dubai, yes including
Tiger Woods.

There are Krav Maga dvds to learn at home.

re: #56 Occasional Reader

Those too. Down they go.

re: #60 Jimmah

I'm totally agreed with Hitch. These posters apart from everything else seem to be a territorial claim.

Effectively, they're gang symbols.

re: #32 Mad Al-Jaffee
Hitch should have been carrying - but he was STUPID for marking up that poster, given where he was at the time and the extreme liklihood that some of those folks would bring out the stormtroopers to kick his ass.

re: #59 smokefire

When all else fails, a swift kick in the you know where, should at least slow someone down.

The elbow? Really? That would do the trick?

re: #52 stevieray

The Drunken Master.

Who wasn't drunk.

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

So, they're Kenanu Reeves gone bad? :)

Pretty much.

I pay over $100 a month for my Krav training, but if I go to all of the classes I can (6 a week - 3 Krav and 3 fitness) it works out to around $5 per class.

And there are training centers all over the world.

re: #55 MJ

Hitchens doesn't much like Israel.

When has that stopped anyone from accepting her help. . .hand out for help with the right hand, writing posion pen screeds about her with the left. . .

When you are a belligerent drunk that gets away with insulting people as the key crutch of your vocation, you can expect to get the shit kicked out of you at some point.

Hitchens is no hero. He's lucky to have gotten away as he did.

re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I noticed you saw my other post RE: cyclones/hurricanes then.

re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

One series of training I received while overseas said the best form of self defense was you could use was immobilize and run. You dont stick around for the fight, you drop the guy fast and high tail it. We were all laughing about it at the time, but the instructor knew his stuff.

Exactly what I was thinking. Nail the guy (non-lethally) and then withdraw. Still, I am glad no one was hurt and those fascists got some negative exposure. I hate Syrian Nazis.

re: #47 Dianna

He'd have to stay sober to improve his balance.

The actually is a Chinese style known as "drunken fist" ... I don't know much about it but the players really do look like teetering drunks. And then some one goes flying. Pretty cool to watch.

Too bad it wasn't Michael Yon accompaying them (former Special Forces) rather than Totten. No offense to Mr. Totten.

re: #68 debutaunt

The elbow? Really? That would do the trick?

Road House says the biggest guy will fall if you take out his knee

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

They still should have pummeled the first guy to come up. If you think that you are seeing a hostile lookout, neutralize them as fast as possible. You might be able to prevent the arrival of reinforcements that way.

I agree completely.

But I have friends that say the same type of "I'd just do this or that" BS when speaking about fighting as if they have ever tried to do it before, have done it before, or train to be able to do it.

re: #59 smokefire

When all else fails, a swift kick in the you know where, should at least slow someone down.

Forget the balls. Knees.

Knees are forever. And rake the shin, and stomp the instep.

re: #64 jemima

I wouldn't rely on them. It really takes a good instructor, a good training partner and experience in the classroom/gym to learn properly.

re: #78 DisturbedEma

Road House says the biggest guy will fall if you take out his knee

That makes much more sense than the elbow that was alluded to.

re: #76 brookly red

The actually is a Chinese style known as "drunken fist" ... I don't know much about it but the players really do look like teetering drunks. And then some one goes flying. Pretty cool to watch.

Good movies as well

re: #54 realwest

Indeed, fighting four or five at once is a losing proposition for most folks.

Best you can do, often (so I've been taught); try to pick the weakest looking link, work on him, keep circling around to keep him between you and the rest, to the extent you can. If you manage to drop him, pick the next weakest looking, do the same.

re: #80 Dianna

Forget the balls. Knees.

Knees are forever. And rake the shin, and stomp the instep.

And the key is having an immediate reaction.

“I'm fine, I think,” Christopher said.

He seemed to be in pretty good spirits, all things considered.

“The SSNP,” I said, “is the last party you want to mess with in Lebanon. I’m sorry I didn’t warn you properly. This is partly my fault.”

“I appreciate that,” Christopher said. “But I would have done it anyway. One must take a stand. One simply must.”

Indeed.

I see Hitchens guardian angel is back.

re: #63 NonNativeTexan
Especially Tiger Woods.

re: #76 brookly red

The actually is a Chinese style known as "drunken fist" ... I don't know much about it but the players really do look like teetering drunks. And then some one goes flying. Pretty cool to watch.

I've seen it.

The point is, though, that they're stone cold sober when they're practicing.

It's like using a cane. Even if you need it, it's a weapon, but it makes you look vulnerable.

re: #73 Sol Roth

When you are a belligerent drunk that gets away with insulting people as the key crutch of your vocation, you can expect to get the shit kicked out of you at some point.

Hitchens is no hero. He's lucky to have gotten away as he did.

Oh imagine upsetting the local neo-nazis and being a drinker too. What a bad man!

Un-fucking believable.

re: #80 Dianna

Forget the balls. Knees.

Knees are forever. And rake the shin, and stomp the instep.

Always a soft tissue fan myself. Eyes, throat, balls.

re: #84 Occasional Reader

Heaven help the little-old-lady who just happens to shuffle by.

re: #78 DisturbedEma

Road House says the biggest guy will fall if you take out his knee

They're all shorter than you when you've taken his knees!

re: #20 Ben Hur

Why did I originally think that this happened in Syria?

My bad.

It's because they were reporting the incident as Syrian thugs (but living in Beirut, Lebanon).

re: #67 realwest

Hitch should have been carrying

Carrying? An unlicensed firearm, in a foreign country? Not wise.
Good way to learn Arabic... the hard way, from your cellmates, for the next several years.

re: #85 debutaunt

And the key is having an immediate reaction.

Indeed.

Hitch didn't want to hit the spotter. That was, bluntly, stupid.

re: #90 Jimmah

Oh imagine upsetting the local neo-nazis and being a drinker too. What a bad man!

Un-fucking believable.

Why don't you just call me a Taliban again, go ahead you know you want to.

FOAD.

re: #88 realwest

Especially Tiger Woods.

Yes, what if the tennis player was barred because she was black
instead of because she is a Jew?

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Always a soft tissue fan myself. Eyes, throat, balls.

Nothing wrong with that.

re: #78 DisturbedEma

Road House says the biggest guy will fall if you take out his knee

A poke in the eye is just as effective, and a lot easier.

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Always a soft tissue fan myself. Eyes, throat, balls.

...........I am an EMT, I know where to make it hurt.....
...........I am an EMT tell me where it hurts, and I will make it worse....

Dang, remind me to be nice to you folks.

re: #80 Dianna
Indeed, sounds like somone out here has had some training, no? But I still prefer the knuckles to the throat punch first - kicking the kneecap is great, but it puts you, however temporarily, on one leg - and that ain't good when you're trying to defend yourself against more than one attacker.

The Hamra Street Smackdown graphic is hilarious.

re: #84 Occasional Reader

Best you can do, often (so I've been taught); try to pick the weakest looking link, work on him, keep circling around to keep him between you and the rest, to the extent you can. If you manage to drop him, pick the next weakest looking, do the same.

Actually, that is back wards, take the toughest first, then the rest stop. Or when he does come around, you are too tired to do the job.

re: #98 NonNativeTexan

Yes, what if the tennis player was barred because she was black
instead of because she is a Jew?

Then Barack Obama would have yelled about it. Sharpton, Jackson and the whole crew would have joined in and sued any Dubai business they could find.

re: #100 filetandrelease

A poke in the eye is just as effective, and a lot easier.

No, it's not. Aim is an issue, and if you don't know how to throw a punch, you break your hand without doing any actual harm to your opponent.

Hit them in the belly.

Good sun angle on the San Gabriels, it picks out all the canyons. Towercam.

re: #103 realwest

But I still prefer the knuckles to the throat punch first

I'd say, only if you're sure your life depends on it. You can kill someone with that. NOT for a bar brawl situation!

In my opinion, Hitch should have sat down and talked to his so-called "assailants", without preconditions.

/

re: #103 realwest

Excellent, a punch to the throat is very effective, a kick to the knee is difficult. You better hit it just right and know how to kick.

re: #106 Dark_Falcon

Then Barack Obama would have yelled about it. Sharpton, Jackson and the whole crew would have joined in and sued any Dubai business they could find.

............and of course boycotted any Dubai business.

re: #100 filetandrelease

A poke in the eye is just as effective, and a lot easier.

Any hit to eye induces a panic response. Makes for a nice set up for a more aggresive move.

re: #101 smokefire

...........I am an EMT, I know where to make it hurt.....
...........I am an EMT tell me where it hurts, and I will make it worse....

ROFLMAO! First certified in 1977..........

re: #105 filetandrelease

Actually, that is back wards, take the toughest first, then the rest stop. Or when he does come around, you are too tired to do the job.

Hey, I just like beating up weak people, okay?

/

re: #97 Sol Roth

Get a haircut, freak.

The way I've learned, kicks are for longer range, punches for medium range, knees and elbows for close range.

re: #84 Occasional Reader

Best you can do, often (so I've been taught); try to pick the weakest looking link, work on him, keep circling around to keep him between you and the rest, to the extent you can. If you manage to drop him, pick the next weakest looking, do the same.

My approach would be to first punch one of them solidly in the fist with my nose, followed up by a stomach into his elbow and then finish him off with a sharp groin to the knee........
/

re: #103 realwest

Indeed, sounds like somone out here has had some training, no? But I still prefer the knuckles to the throat punch first - kicking the kneecap is great, but it puts you, however temporarily, on one leg - and that ain't good when you're trying to defend yourself against more than one attacker.

I've had some training, and I'm getting more. Yes, a punch to the throat is very effective. But, if you're already in close, raking from the knee down does a number on just about anybody. More, you're able to use the howling, squirming attacker as a shield. It's very, very satisfying when they start kicking one of their own.

“It is,” I said, “in a way. They have a state behind them. They aren't just a street gang, they're a street gang with a state.”

“Yes,” Christopher said. “They’re the worst. And also a Greek Orthodox repressed homosexual wankers organization, I think.”

So are the SSNP are Melkite?

re: #89 Dianna

I've seen it.

The point is, though, that they're stone cold sober when they're practicing.

It's like using a cane. Even if you need it, it's a weapon, but it makes you look vulnerable.

True that. I think that it is also used for relaxaition & energy flow.

re: #109 Occasional Reader

I'd say, only if you're sure your life depends on it. You can kill someone with that. NOT for a bar brawl situation!

In my opinion, Hitch should have sat down and talked to his so-called "assailants", without preconditions.

/

Regale their asses.

re: #107 Dianna

No, it's not. Aim is an issue, and if you don't know how to throw a punch, you break your hand without doing any actual harm to your opponent.

Hit them in the belly.

Indeed. The key is situational awareness. Knowing what situations can be resolved peacefully, and which ones you have to fight your way out of. If you are in one of the latter, strike first, strike fast, strike hard.

Go all out.

Nothing off limits.

Get them off balance.

Do not stop.

Ignore the pain.

Unless you train extensively - which means a sh*tload of repetition - you won't instinctively hit anything you're aiming for.

I trust Dianna's reactions to defend herself would be a much more instinctive and accurate than anyone who doesn't train.

That doesn't mean you can't win if you don't train everyday, but don't think you will be able to "just do this or that."

re: #110 filetandrelease

Excellent, a punch to the throat is very effective, a kick to the knee is difficult. You better hit it just right and know how to kick.

That's my impression, too. Kick to the knee is highly effective, but relies on a fairly precise strike.

Hitchens still my favorite atheist, Killgore Trout is a close second. lol Seriously, I'm glad no more permanent injuries occurred. Great story though.

re: #113 jcm

............beat you.
CT-EMT-1976.

re: #84 Occasional Reader
Yup. Although unless it's really obvious (by size, say) you can waste a lot of valuable time looking for the weakest link; that's why I said pick out one of 'em and do that one as fast and hard as you can.
Honestly while Dianna is right about the knee, it's more likely to get him in the throat and if they can't breathe, they sure as hell aren't gonna be hitting you anymore.

re: #117 LGoPs

My approach would be to first punch one of them solidly in the fist with my nose, followed up by a stomach into his elbow and then finish him off with a sharp groin to the knee........
/

CYCLE OF VIOLINS!

re: #107 Dianna
Begging your pardon, a poke in the eye does not require a punch. or any particular aim. You break a finger at worst, but it is very effective and completely immobilizing.

re: #128 Occasional Reader

Sax and violins!

re: #112 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Any hit to eye induces a panic response. Makes for a nice set up for a more aggresive move.

bingo. Correctly done with a back hand whip motion, but any poke is effective.

A poke in the eye is the first move taught in Stooge Fu. :)

re: #117 LGoPs

My approach would be to first punch one of them solidly in the fist with my nose, followed up by a stomach into his elbow and then finish him off with a sharp groin to the knee........
/

Remind me to never go out drinking with you.

re: #118 Dianna

More, you're able to use the howling, squirming attacker as a shield. It's very, very satisfying when they start kicking one of their own.

You've done this?

re: #97 Sol Roth

Why don't you just call me a Taliban again, go ahead you know you want to.

FOAD.

re: #115 Jimmah

Get a haircut, freak.

Both of you cool it! We've got better things to do than fight amongst ourselves. Fight the fascists, not your fellow lizards.

re: #132 Mad Al-Jaffee

A poke in the eye is the first move taught in Stooge Fu. :)

Sometimes also called Tae Kwan-Moe.

re: #104 Killgore Trout

The Hamra Street Smackdown graphic is hilarious.

It is! LMAO!

re: #134 Occasional Reader

Terrorism Protection Procedures 101

re: #114 Occasional Reader

Hey, I just like beating up weak people, okay?

/

LOL

re: #136 Occasional Reader

Heck,
Tae-Joe-Moe

re: #140 Ojoe

...............Niagara Falls!

re: #123 Ben Hur

but don't think you will be able to "just do this or that."

"His breath alone can defeat most men."

-Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome (regarding "Blaster")

re: #138 smokefire

Terrorism Protection Procedures 101

I am well trained in street fighting 101.

I obviously understand Hitchens' sentiments in regard to the SSNP and their use of a quasi-swastica as their symbol. Having said that, Hitchens put all three of them in possible mortal danger, not just himself, with his stunt.

The bottom line is this - if you're traveling in a country with a hostile government/milita you either a)wait until you get home to voice your disapproval of the regime or b)don't go there in the first place. It's never really worth it to make a point that won't affect anything in the long run but might send you to the hospital or the morgue in the short run.

re: #119 Thanos

The original founder (in Lebanon) was a Greek Orthodox (Melkite)...ultra right wingers...(many also tend to be extreme antisemites, etc.)..lots of wiki articles about it...

Moe, Larry, cheese
Moe, Larry, cheese
Moe, Larry, cheese
Moe, Larry, cheese

re: #126 smokefire

............beat you.
CT-EMT-1976.

LOL! I joined the VFD when I got my drivers license at 16. Back then we did everything but drive, it wasn't Explorers I was doing the job. SCBA where for HAZMAT not house fires. Put my first drunk driver in a body bag a couple months after I started.

Rules have changed. A 16 year old could never do that today, best thing I ever did.

re: #130 rawmuse

Sax and violins!

Saxon violence!

re: #109 Occasional Reader
LOL! Well I'd say if 4 goons attacked me I'd have a realistic expectation that my life was in danger; if I get a better shot at his throat than I expected, well so be it. (btw, you can get the same result if you hit him on the bridge of the nose in an upward punch, but you risk hurting your hand).

One other thing bears saying here: Once you commit to fight, realize you cannot de-escalate the situation. You need to win and get away quickly. If the first gang member holds your attention long enough for his buddies to arrive and they find him in a bloody heap, you will be in for it. They'll have to make an example of you. Hit and run.

I fear for the taxi driver who actually stopped and helped them out. The SSNP is going to hunt him down.

re: #123 Ben Hur

Go all out.

Nothing off limits.

Get them off balance.

Do not stop.

Ignore the pain.

Unless you train extensively - which means a sh*tload of repetition - you won't instinctively hit anything you're aiming for.

I trust Dianna's reactions to defend herself would be a much more instinctive and accurate than anyone who doesn't train.

That doesn't mean you can't win if you don't train everyday, but don't think you will be able to "just do this or that."

Absolutely! You have to train. You can't do it via DVDs, though that can serve as an introduction. You have to know what works, feel the point where it starts to take effect, from both sides. You have to know not just one thing or another, but a series of reactions.

And never forget that the final point is to get away with your life.

By the way, Megan Fox is now single.

re: #149 realwest

LOL! Well I'd say if 4 goons attacked me I'd have a realistic expectation that my life was in danger; if I get a better shot at his throat than I expected, well so be it. (btw, you can get the same result if you hit him on the bridge of the nose in an upward punch, but you risk hurting your hand).

Don't use your hand for that, use the palm of your hand, works much better, even under the chin.

re: #148 jcm

Saxon violence!

I don't get your Angle on this.....

re: #147 jcm

Good for you.
Things have changed since the 70's for me too.
Riding the tailboard, no air packs.
The young kids think all us old farts are nuts.
Come to think of it, we probably are.

re: #131 filetandrelease

bingo. Correctly done with a back hand whip motion, but any poke is effective.

Basic training on how to break a headlock, reach back drive your fingers into the eye socket, pulling back. Attacker will reflexively pull back from the pressure, breaking the hold. I'd give the details on the follow thru, but its a killing strike so I'll pass. Had to use it once, but pulled the punch and ran. Havent been back there in 10+ years.

It's amazing that the thugs didn't have anything more dangerous than their hands.

re: #124 Occasional Reader

That's my impression, too. Kick to the knee is highly effective, but relies on a fairly precise strike.

Not necessarily. Frankly, any hard contact to the lower part of the leg is pretty unpleasant (I'm in the midst of kick combinations, and I get to have them done to me for demonstration purposes.).

Reads like a Joel C Rosenberg novel.

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

Come on. This guy took the side of the neo-nazis against Hitchens, then gratuitously insulted me, wishing me death. I then somewhat humorously wished a haircut upon his avatar. I think you can cut me a little slack here.

We can't always just get along.

re: #119 Thanos

So are the SSNP are Melkite?

Yes. Full circle...

re: #159 badger1970

It's amazing that the thugs didn't have anything more dangerous than their hands.

re: #142 Occasional Reader

"His breath alone can defeat most men."

-Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome (regarding "Blaster")

BO as well. Stinky people.

re: #129 filetandrelease

Begging your pardon, a poke in the eye does not require a punch. or any particular aim. You break a finger at worst, but it is very effective and completely immobilizing.

Breaking a finger just sucks at the start of a fight.

re: #145 J.S.

The original founder (in Lebanon) was a Greek Orthodox (Melkite)...ultra right wingers...(many also tend to be extreme antisemites, etc.)..lots of wiki articles about it...

Seems the same in Eastern Europe as well, where you see many of the Neo-Nazi groups associated with Orthodox fundamentalists. (not regular just plain orthodox...)

There is a lot I don't like about Hitchens, but there is a lot I do like. His ballsy courage is one of his good points.

Having the courage to deface a Neo-Nazi sign in a Muslim country takes a lot of cojones. I don't think many people would have the balls to deface an Obama sign in a bad neighborhood here in America like that.

It is silly to second guess how he should have fought those thugs in the heat of the moment. Sure, I would like to have seen him and Totten kick the shit out of every last one of them, but he got away, and that is the most important thing.

Too bad the good guys couldn't have been packing heat and just have sent those Nazis thugs to Allah. But then again, it's illegal to pack heat in many places here in the good ol' USA.

It wasn't a screenplay. It was real-life, and Hitchens and Totten won the battle.

re: #165 Dianna

Breaking a finger just sucks at the start of a fight.

Only if it's yours.

re: #158 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I like to put the bridge of my hand under the nose to push the head back if in a head lock, exposing the throat. Amazingly, you can actually push some ones head back with just a finger under the nose in you find your self in that position.

re: #151 thefallingman
Yep, excellent comment and if he knew what was going on, a very brave cab driver.

re: #134 Occasional Reader

You've done this?

Yes.

I have lived in places you do not want to walk through.

A little krav maga would've done nicely.

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

Once you commit to fight, realize you cannot de-escalate the situation.

Usually, but not always. Once when I was walking in the Adams Morgan neighborhood here in DC, a group of Salvadoran teenagers (6 or 7) walked by me, I heard one of them say "here's one", next thing I knew I felt a punch to my head. I stepped back, turned-and-blocked, and intercepted a second punch from the same guy. Was just preparing to kick a second guy who was moving toward me, when the biggest of them grabbed him in a bearhug and said, "sorry, sorry, they're drunk, VAMOS VAMOS". I walked away. Important to know when to STOP and walk away, if the situation allows it.

OK. It's the end of the world.

They are planning a remake of the NEver Ending Story.

re: #153 Ben Hur

By the way, Megan Fox is now single.

Too many tattoos.

re: #153 Ben Hur

By the way, Megan Fox is now single.

Bless you.

This lessens the blow of the Adriana Lima elopement.

re: #166 Thanos

Long, long time ago (over a decade?) I came across a Cd of music (included Melkite chants -- all sung in Arabic) -- incredibly beautiful music (captivating)...but, lol, other things, I guess, not so "beautiful."

re: #169 filetandrelease

Amazingly, you can actually push some ones head back with just a finger under the nose

Okay, now that's DEFINITELY Stooge Fu!

re: #174 Ben Hur

OK. It's the end of the world.

They are planning a remake of the NEver Ending Story.

It sucked the first time, why remake a Turkey?

Oh, that's right money.

re: #165 Dianna

Breaking a finger just sucks at the start of a fight.

True, but a kick to the leg takes serious training, a poke in the eye can be done by just about anyone. and if your fingers are slightly bent, no chance of a break.

re: #175 Ward Cleaver

Too many tattoos.

Like that would really stop you.

re: #173 Occasional Reader

Usually, but not always. Once when I was walking in the Adams Morgan neighborhood here in DC, a group of Salvadoran teenagers (6 or 7) walked by me, I heard one of them say "here's one", next thing I knew I felt a punch to my head. I stepped back, turned-and-blocked, and intercepted a second punch from the same guy. Was just preparing to kick a second guy who was moving toward me, when the biggest of them grabbed him in a bearhug and said, "sorry, sorry, they're drunk, VAMOS VAMOS". I walked away. Important to know when to STOP and walk away, if the situation allows it.

Agreed. The big guy did the right thing and so did you.

re: #54 realwest

I used to bounce in clubs in new york, many years ago when I was younger. and I was in a couple fights where it was easily 4 or more against the lot of us. it is hair raising scary and you will do anything to survive. in one particular fight I laid open a guys scalp with a flashlight because he had me pinned against the side of a car, and I stuck my thumb right into another guy's eye socket who was at my throat in the same fight, and I puched another one in the balls till I ran out of strength and then grabbed hold and squeezed for all I was worth till the cavalry came and started equalling it out. and by the end of 2 minutes of all out brawling your weazing for air and your lungs are burning and it seems like an hour went by

wanting to survive can be a pretty strong motivator

re: #178 Occasional Reader

Okay, now that's DEFINITELY Stooge Fu!

The best way to get out of a head lock.

re: #177 J.S.

Long, long time ago (over a decade?) I came across a Cd of music (included Melkite chants -- all sung in Arabic) -- incredibly beautiful music (captivating)...but, lol, other things, I guess, not so "beautiful."

But long, long time ago, can you still remember how that music used to make you smile?

re: #152 Dianna
Well I've had lots of training and some experience , but I got the fist in the throat thing once, and it convinced me, that's the way to go - you don't have to hit particularly hard and don't have to go off balance. A really swift, short kick to the shins (assuming you're wearing shoes!) is also extremely effective at putting an attacker DOWN. Whatever you do you have to shorten the odds so you can run or gimp away and that means putting at least one on the ground for a while.

re: #179 smokefire

It sucked the first time, why remake a Turkey?

Oh, that's right money.

I am officially boycotting you for a half hour.

Never Ending STory SUCKED?!?!?!?!?!?

Atrayu! WHere are you!?!?

They look like big...strong... hands..... Aw the rock guy let go of his friends!

You heartless Smokefire thing!

re: #173 Occasional Reader

Very well done!

re: #178 Occasional Reader

Okay, now that's DEFINITELY Stooge Fu!

Yeah, just don't blow it.

re: #32 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hitchens should learn Krav Maga.

And carry nunchucks.

re: #167 Irenike

Having the courage to deface a Neo-Nazi sign in a Muslim country takes a lot of cojones.

The Neo-Nazi sign belonged to an Orthodox Christian organization, and the act being dangerous has nothing to do with Lebabon being a "Muslim country," but with Syria controlling its domestic affairs.

re: #183 rumcrook

and by the end of 2 minutes of all out brawling your weazing for air

It's really astonishing how tiring it is to fight.

re: #157 smokefire

Good for you.
Things have changed since the 70's for me too.
Riding the tailboard, no air packs.
The young kids think all us old farts are nuts.
Come to think of it, we probably are.

Nuts, yeah.... but we had FUN!

re: #185 Kosh's Shadow

But long, long time ago, can you still remember how that music used to make you smile?

But Eid-al-Fitr made me shiver...

re: #172 ladycatnip

A little krav maga would've done nicely.

Krav Maga freakin' rules! It would be awesome to know that you could beat the living hell out of almost anyone, in any situation. I mean...how cool would it be to get stuck up by a street thug, break his wrist as you're taking his gun from him, knee him in the gut, and then pistol whip him as he's crashing to the concrete. Just go Steven Segal on the guy.

re: #185 Kosh's Shadow

actually, the music was incredibly sad (hauntingly sad, wailing in a way? longing for that which is gone...lamentations.)

re: #192 Occasional Reader

It's really astonishing how tiring it is to fight.

The longest 90 seconds of your life, every time.

What I never can figure out is when my clothes get ripped. I never remember it happening.

re: #188 Dianna

Very well done!

I was training at the time, and that helped me keep my wits about me. I'm out of training now... must do something about that.

re: #192 Occasional Reader
oh yeah. it doesnt take but a minute to run through your energy and strenght reserves
then comes the rubber affect where your whole body feels like rubber and you can barely lift your arms

re: #198 Occasional Reader

I was training at the time, and that helped me keep my wits about me. I'm out of training now... must do something about that.

Yes, get back in training. It reads like you were doing very well with it, and really internalizing it.

Laurence Gonzales wrote an excellent book on Survival, " Deep Survival: Who Lives, Who Dies and Why," and makes the point that people make CLASSIC mental errors. In the case of Chris Hitchens, the mental error was that RISK=REWARD. He assumed that the emotional reward of ripping down or defacing the sign would be worth the risk.

I doubt that he really calculated that the Risk was death-defying. Would he have have walked across a tightrope between two buildings to have experience the reward of defacing the signs? Doubtful. Everyone knows that falling from a high tightrope means death. Hitchens not only miscalculated the risk to himself, but also, to his friends. He took not only his own life in his hands, but that of this friends - without their permission. That's why Totten had the panicked realization that Chris WAS willing to put all their lives in danger by defacing the sign.

Hitchens owes his friends a huge apology for endangering their lives without their agreement. His actions were reckless and selfish, and it was only a matter of luck that none of the attackers were armed with weapons. If even the police are afraid, what does that tell you?

Hitchens:

“Once you credit them like that,” he said, “you do all their work for them. They should have been worried about us. Let them worry. Let them wonder if we're carrying a tool or if we have a crew. I'd like to go back, do it properly, deface the thing with red paint so there's no swastika visible. You can't have the main street, a shopping and commercial street, in a civilized city patrolled by intimidators who work for a Nazi organization. It is not humanly possible to live like that. One must not do that. There may be more important problems in Lebanon, but if people on Hamra don't dare criticize the SSNP, well fuck. That's occupation.”

He's right. Leaving those thugs unchallenged and those swastikas undefaced is effectively conceding terrotory and authority.

re: #174 Ben Hur

OK. It's the end of the world.

They are planning a remake of the NEver Ending Story.

Lionel Hutz: Mr. Simpson, this is the most blatant case of fraudulent advertising since my suit against the film, The Never-Ending Story.

re: #200 Dianna

Yes, get back in training. It reads like you were doing very well with it, and really internalizing it.

Nah, now I'll just say, "wait here a minute", run home, get my Kimber, and come back...

re: #202 Jimmah

Hitchens:

He's right. Leaving those thugs unchallenged and those swastikas undefaced is effectively conceding terrotory and authority.

Kind of like our civilization is doing on a constant basis?

[sigh]

re: #204 Occasional Reader

Nah, now I'll just say, "wait here a minute", run home, get my Kimber, and come back...

Some time ago - maybe a year or so - there was an account in the SF Chronicle about some guys who saw another fellow being beaten up for his ipod. They went to intervene. One of the attackers pulled a knife. One of the interveners turned, ran up to his apartment, and returned with a katana.

At this point, the attackers ran away.

re: #201 DistantThunder

your right. but soemtimes doing what you think is right doesnt come from a place of logic and extrapolation of the future risks,

but your right.

re: #194 Occasional Reader

But Eid-al-Fitr made me shiver...

With every fatwa I'd deliver
Big bomb on the doorstep
And they couldn't take one more step

I can't remember if I swore
When I read about the infidel horde
But something touched me deep inside
The day the infidels died

And bye bye, all Americans die
Drove my Chevy to the levee
With a bomb inside
And them bad old boys were drinking whisky and rye
Singing this will be the day that they die

re: #169 filetandrelease

One of the instructors at my training center calls that the "Pez dispenser" move.

re: #201 DistantThunder

Thank you. I have not had a chance to comment so much lately, but I pop in to read up.

I was aware of this story since it broke.

These stories always seem to stoke people's emotions, and tweaking their fighting side.

To some degree, I can admire the wanton bravado of Hitchen's initial actions, but in reality, and especially due to the fact you have other people in your party, one, who is gently trying to forewarn in story, this move was foolish. This setting is not necessarily a pub in London.

Variables are variables. Anything can happen. One of those kicks to the head could have induced a subdural, and rendered him even more of a liability to himself, and the party with him.

These are the streets where leaders are assassinated by car bombs.

This was not a smart move.

The typical Mohammedan man-dress is loose and flowing, right? Reach up off the ground and grab one of your attackers by the balls, squeeze as hard as you can, and twist as you retract the grab (still holding on to his ruptured testicles as tightly as you can). You'll get an opening to stand up. Use it.

All his buddies will see is that you hit him once and he caved completely (if you do this right, he'll scream and then pass out from shock). Thin the herd a little (by which I mean kill a couple more motherfuckers) and the survivors will bug out.

If they didn't decide that discretion was the better part of valor, and bug out when their buddy screamed and passed out.

I keep reading SSNP as "SNPP," or "Springfield Nuclear Power Plant."

re: #201 DistantThunder

I agree that Hitchens' initial action here, while understandable, was a bad calculation.

re: #209 Mad Al-Jaffee

LOL, seems appropriate.

Hitchens fancies himself a super hero, but his companions had no vote.

re: #211 Iron Fist

Umm, Iron fist seems like a good name for you.

Their basic mistake was not returning the favor tenfold in the first couple of seconds when the first guy assaulted them. In that neighborhood, one thug isn't going to stay "one thug" for long. Meet offense with a swift, violent defense, and then get the hell out of there.

Anyway I'm glad nobody on the right side got hurt worse than they did. Hitchens is right about living under swastika signs...

re: #202 Jimmah

Hitchens:

He's right. Leaving those thugs unchallenged and those swastikas undefaced is effectively conceding terrotory and authority.

Yes, this is entirely correct, but if you are going to do something you need to be ready for the consequences. If I were going to go do some blatently aggressive act like defacing gang colors spray painted on a wall, I'd want a group of about five people, one of whom would be carrying a sawed-off 12 ga. Everyone else should be carrying a gun, and be mentally and emotionally prepared to shoot to kill.

With that kind of setup, the odds are real good that they'll back down. If they don't, and your life and wellbeing (or that of your friends) are in danger, then pick the guy with the loudest mouth and blast him woth the shotgun. Splash his blood all over his friends, and they will probably leave.

Once they break off, you can't shoot them anymore. Depending on the circumstances (especially if I were in a foreign coulntry and had my passport handy) vacate the premisis, dispose of any firearms that were used in the altercation (throwing them in a deep river or flodded rock quarry usually works). Depending on the laws where this takes place, doing the above may put you in court if you are caught (even in the US this will differ from state to state). Depending on the Judge, your defacing their graffiti may constitute "fighting words" in the US (not legally protected speech), and you may be chargerd with anything from manslaughter to first degree murder (plus weapons charges from the guns themselves, especially the short-barreled shotgun).

Remember Bernhard Goetz? Depending on the jurisdiction they may come down harder on you than they would have the criminal that you killed had he killed you instead.

I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six, as the saying goes. If you are in a foreign jurisdiction, all bets are off. Some countries (i.e. Britain) expect you to grovel for your life on the ground while the fuckers that started the mess stand around and stomp you to death. If you are going to persue this course of action, you had best be prepared for the consequences.

re: #216 filetandrelease

Oh, you have no idea. One of my sensei's students had a guy try to rape her one time. She basically castrated him with her bear hands. He was still unconscious when the police arrived to investigate. Needless to say, she wasn't charged with anything. And I doubt seriously that the would-be rapist ever was able to rape again.

Don't tell JW that the SSNP is composed of Christian Orthodox. Doesn't fit the narrative. Oh but yes, "Hugh Fitzgerald" has a word for such people:

an example of what Hugh calls an "islamochristian," or a dhimmi Christian who has imbibed the values of his Muslim overlords.

Wow. Great article Totten. I've sent you taxi fare for your next few trips to Beirut. If I could pick out all my friends based on virtues like those of Totten, Yon, and Hitchens, bravery, courage, conservative morals, and intelligence, I'd be a very happy woman.
Lets Face facts, these are rare qualities today in journalists.

re: #220 MPH

According to the Wiki article on the SSNP their flag/emblem is "a combination of the crescent and the cross." Now that sounds like IslamoChristian to me...

And to all of you who are sitting in your comfortable padded chairs, like me, typing away at your keyboards, think about this....
We're not putting our asses on the line in an obviously Nazi "occupied" Beirut, to bring you the facts about the corruption of the Lebanese state. If you stop micro-analyzing what they coulda, shoulda done, and read what the responses of the police and the shop keepers did NOT do to protect them, you will summarily understand, that they did exactly what they were capable of doing at that moment.
Sure, I'm guessing they have all played the scenario out a hundred times in their own heads, about what they could have done better...to learn from one's mistakes and to be better prepared when and if a situation like this occurs again. It's what makes life interesting...we live and learn and hopefully, get wiser.
I hear no regrets from any of them in this article.
They were actually more concerned about leading the SSNP to the rest of the innocents, if they returned to their original hotel.
I applaud anyone who has the moxie to stand up and actually act against corruption and Nazi wanna be's.
Be proud, Stand proud, Kudos to Michael,Hitchens, and Jonathan for doing just that.

Hitchens has guts, I'll say that for him. But it's irresponsible to pick a life-threatening fight, knowingly, without you and your companions being properly prepared for it.

I swore to myself when I was a sweet young thing that I would never cause a boyfriend to get in a fight resulting from my stupidity. It's not right to start fights for other people. The same principle really should have applied here.

That said, everybody should train in self-defense. If you get attacked, you can be sure your attacker has a plan. If you don't already have a plan for reponse to various attacks, then you will be wasting time figuring out what to do while he is taking you apart.

For instance, if someone ever tries to strangle me, my thumbs or fingers will be the last thing he ever sees.

islamonazis are a bunch of cowards. stand up to them and they show their cowardice. europe: are ya' listening?

spit

Dianna
What sort of training do you practice?

Good read. I had no idea Hitchens was so gutsy, though perhaps a bit foolhardy considering where he was. Even though he is a confirmed atheist I enjoy his interviews and writings very much!

So does this mean I shouldn't deface/rip down the ANSWER posters in DC? I don't think they have a whole lot of supporters wandering around and I'm pretty sure I could take one of the Code Pink supporters down if they caught me(I see Medea B is taking her self to Gaza- I wonder if she is wearing a chador or her pink sheet and crown instead).

It's stories like this that make me want to take my vacations in the good ole' USA... or at least in a country not ruled by thugs & gangs. This could have turned out very, very bad. I hope that next time Mr. Hitchens either A: Keeps his pen in his pocket. or B: Unleashes his Kung-Fu the instant some fuck-weasel makes a move for him. I dare say it is preferable to be sitting in a foreign prison than laying in a foreign morgue.
Also... Michael Totten, you rock!

re: #191 medaura18586

The Neo-Nazi sign belonged to an Orthodox Christian organization, and the act being dangerous has nothing to do with Lebabon being a "Muslim country," but with Syria controlling its domestic affairs.

I respectfully disagree. The fact that the sign belonged to an Orthodox Christian organization is irrelevant. The Lebanese Christians are dhimmis who are allowed to exist so long as they are useful to their Muslim overlords. Toeing the Nazi party line makes them useful. If Hitchens had been beaten, lying in the gutter, how do you think the local police would have dealt with him? Suppose Hitchens had done the same thing in Germany, let's say, and got beaten up by Neo-Nazi skinheads. I'll bet he'd feel safer with German police than he would have with Lebanese police. Naziism is actually illegal in Germany, if I recall correctly. I do no think it is illegal in Lebanon. Correct me if I'm wrong.

re: #52 stevieray

The Drunken Master.

Heh, I still have that on VHS.

re: #231 madisonsfriend

So does this mean I shouldn't deface/rip down the ANSWER posters in DC? I don't think they have a whole lot of supporters wandering around and I'm pretty sure I could take one of the Code Pink supporters down if they caught me

As I noted above, I do that all the time.

With regard to the question of confrontations with supporters, here's a way to preempt that; use a folding knife to deface and/or take down the poster in the first place. It may be that a soft word turneth away wrath, but a glimpsed blade is even more effective.

re: #222 taxfreekiller

fight,
do not think,
the thinking part slowed them down

fight first think later

damned skippy. He was in analysis mode while Hitchens was getting whupped on. There were four or five to their two. Totten should have been in attack mode the second the one hit Hitchens in the face and another kicked him. The odds just were not that bad.

"There were too many for us to fend off. We lost the fight before it even began" These two statements are just absurd for someone that makes his living banging away in some of the cesspools of the world.

If they had been more aware of their environment while defacing the sign, they would not have been ambushed to start with.

The Krav instructors where I train always tell us to yell when we're punching or kicking. One reason is it makes you breathe in and it tightens your core. The other reason is if you make noise while defending yourself, someone might call 911 and help can arrive quicker.

“The SSNP,” I said, “is the last party you want to mess with in Lebanon. I’m sorry I didn’t warn you properly. This is partly my fault.”

“I appreciate that,” Christopher said. “But I would have done it anyway. One must take a stand. One simply must.”

Damn that is some principles

Wow...he was hurt worse than I had thought.

I hope you are recovering well, Mr. Hitchens.

The next time Chris visits Lebanon he should take Chuck Norris with him.
[Link: www.chucknorrisfacts.com...]

re: #19 Dianna
re: #21 Honorary Yooper

Ever try fighting four or five at once? It's not as easy as Hollywood makes it out to be.

No, no, read the Totten article. I mean the first guy who got him. There was only one Nazi holding Hitchens for at least a few minutes until the gang that the guy called from his cellphone arrived. According to Totten, Hitch wouldn't hit the thug back.

test

A long time ago in a faraway land...
What you really need is.....dun dun da da dah!
"LLAP-GOCH !.... the secret art of Welsh self defence!"
Oh... and yes the Ju Jitsu Instructor gave us a right
flogging over that one.
"Heh heh heh...very funny - in fact you are so funny
you are tonights 'Training Dummy'!" ( insert evil grin here )
"Ahhh...Sh*t"