One waiting.

Rush was referring to the fact that Jindal was speaking of substantive issues and they critisized him on style.

E-mail Rush and tell him he's wrong.

I did.

The internecine warfare is ON!

Rush is being foolish here. Jindal is not our best choice for 2012.

After your party takes a beating like the one we took in the last election, you know there has to be a little bit of blood letting. So let the gamers begin. Just as long as it's over by the midterms.

re: #4 Ward Cleaver

The internecine warfare is ON!

While Obama laughs all the way to the (nationalized) bank.

Man, this is frustrating! Jindal, as Governor, voted for Creationism to be taught as science in public schools. 'Nuff said. That's so completely unacceptable that it's mind boggling to see so much of the GOP lining up behind this guy. What is wrong with people?

Rush, there are better options out there, like Romney.

I didn't leave the Republican party. It left me.

re: #8 Russkilitlover

Man, this is frustrating! Jindal, as Governor, voted for Creationism to be taught as science in public schools. 'Nuff said. That's so completely unacceptable that it's mind boggling to see so much of the GOP lining up behind this guy. What is wrong with people?

They either don't know about that, or agree with Jindal.

I heard Rush yesterday when he said it and I would have to agree with whomever it was a few threads back who said that he is behaving this way, bcz Rush has just too much invested in Jindal to see him fail. (Sorry, I cannot remember who posted it!) Sounds a little like the MSM's dilemma regarding Obama, doesn't it?
On a similar topic, I had occasion to speak for quite a while with an old acquaintance of mine this past weekend. Ironically enough the topic of creationism came up. I knew this person is a devout Christian, but I was unaware of the extent of these beliefs. When I stated that I am skeptical (to put it mildly) about any theories other than evolution a look of despair crossed my friend’s face. When I asked about the fate of the dinosaurs, it was explained to me that they perished during the great flood. This response BEGGED a retort. I was this close *holds index finger and thumb a quarter inch apart* to asking why Noah wasn’t more of a mensch and failed to load the dinos onto the ark two by two when I caught myself and changed the topic. Whew! That was close. I am glad I was sporting my rarely used diplomacy hat.

The leftists never hold their own accountable, nor cast a critical eye on their fellows.

Yes, let's be more like them.
/

You can always try to explain away a crappy speech by claiming it's race:

Bobby Jindal and Racial Stereotypes

Boosters of Bobby Jindal's presidential prospects have suggested to me--correctly, I think--that his racial background could be less of a hurdle for white voters than Barack Obama's was because, as a South Asian American, Jindal would be perceived as a "model minority." Where racially nervous whites might look at Obama and think of some scary African American they saw on "The Wire," they'd look at Jindal and think of that nice young internist who took care of them while the family doctor was on vacation in Boca.

[Link: blogs.tnr.com...]

re: #10 Bubblehead II

I didn't leave the Republican party. It left me.

DING.

re: #12 ilzito guacamolito

I heard Rush yesterday when he said it and I would have to agree with whomever it was a few threads back who said that he is behaving this way, bcz Rush has just too much invested in Jindal to see him fail. (Sorry, I cannot remember who posted it!) Sounds a little like the MSM's dilemma regarding Obama, doesn't it?
On a similar topic, I had occasion to speak for quite a while with an old acquaintance of mine this past weekend. Ironically enough the topic of creationism came up. I knew this person is a devout Christian, but I was unaware of the extent of these beliefs. When I stated that I am skeptical (to put it mildly) about any theories other than evolution a look of despair crossed my friend’s face. When I asked about the fate of the dinosaurs, it was explained to me that they perished during the great flood. This response BEGGED a retort. I was this close *holds index finger and thumb a quarter inch apart* to asking why Noah wasn’t more of a mensch and failed to load the dinos onto the ark two by two when I caught myself and changed the topic. Whew! That was close. I am glad I was sporting my rarely used diplomacy hat.

I would have called him on it. I like a good argument. It lets me aim my hostility at someone.

It's probably a good thing we have a few years before the next pres. election because we have some major bloodletting to do.

Get rid of this Jindal clown. Someone. Please. Now. Thanks.

Is it really ever a good idea to marry yourself to one or two politicians? Best to keep your options open in my humble opinion. Besides, if these guys like him so much shouldn't they be criticizing him so that Jindal will learn something, instead of being cocooned in a shell where he won't improve himself as a politician?

If you read his "rebuttal" it sounds ok (text)...it's the way he delivered it...especially since he came on right after the "Master of the Teleprompter". He looked waaay to nervous, his tone was awful and his posture was as tight as rigor mortis. But besides that...he was GREAT! NOT

But, I am not ready to dismiss this guy yet. He has his negatives, but he is a smart guy, very smart. Smarter than "The One" and with a better grasp on economics too. 4 years is a long time to hone an image...Now, if someone can just start advising him to opStay ithway ethay eligionRay onsenseNay, he might just be a player

Jindal was lame. A lame excuse for a spokesman.

Now that I'm in the outer darkness, I say:

The reason he's lame is that he fails to offer a viable alternative to our CURRENT real problem, which is President Barack Obama, who just minutes ago introduced a disastrous "budget" which I am firmly convinced is intended to completely ruin our economy, so more radical socialistic measures can be introduced later.

The Republicans have a chance to point this out. Instead, they whine about trivialities like volcano-monitoring.

The Democratic Party is a horror-film monster chasing America down a hallway.
The Republican Party is the monster's first victim, as usual shown to be a hapless buffoon.

We sit in the audience, aghast.

re: #12 ilzito guacamolito

I heard Rush yesterday when he said it and I would have to agree with whomever it was a few threads back who said that he is behaving this way, bcz Rush has just too much invested in Jindal to see him fail. (Sorry, I cannot remember who posted it!)rarely used diplomacy hat.

I dont know if youre referring to me, but i definitely made a comment about that

re: #2 yesandno

Rush was referring to the fact that Jindal was speaking of substantive issues and they critisized him on style.

What substantive issues? He was repeating stump platitudes from the McCain / Palin campaign. The only thing he didn't say was "I'll reach across the aisle."

The right is being a tad defensive after the election loss. I hope this does not last much longer. As much as Jindal stunk I believe that the majority of R politicians would have said the same thing. It's the message, not the messengers.

I see the Republican Party (of which I am one) as Norma Desmond at this point.

"I am big. It's the pictures that got smaller".

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

The leftists never hold their own accountable, nor cast a critical eye on their fellows.

Yes, let's be more like them.
/

Bears repeating.

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

I would have called him on it. I like a good argument. It lets me aim my hostility at someone.

I too love a good argument. I am Jersey born and bred where we use words as weapons. I think that by merely shattering his image of me with one sentence did enough damage for one day.

See you later Rush. After you admitted you carried water in the past, and I clearly see you doing it again, what little attention i pay to you now will be no more. Its a shame, I used to listen to you daily with my father. Even he loathes you now.

If it wasn't for this site, I would have no clue regarding Jindal's beliefs and the bill passed in Louisiana...

I would imagine right now, there is a large portion of the GOP who listens to Rush and has no clue about it... But I would also venture to guess that a solid number agree with him to some degree...

re: #10 Bubblehead II

I didn't leave the Republican party. It left me.

Do the know the difference between these two statements ?

1) I voted against Obama.

2) I voted for McCain.

I'm a #1.

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

Rush is being foolish here. Jindal is not our best choice for 2012.

Not even in the zip code...

I enjoyed learning about creationism in school. The teachers were so much more interesting than the ones who taught astrology.

Hindsight being 20/20, too bad Limbaugh could not take his own advice now back when McCain was running. Without doubt Rush Limbaugh did more damage to John McCain than any other conservative with a following and yet, now he has whined numerous times, 'don't blame me for McCain's loss.' This flies in the face of reality. In the real world, Rush Limbaugh's constant negativism concerning candidate McCain cost him votes not only from the center but more than a few degrees right of center as well. The perfect candidate does not exist in either party. Rush should know this.

re: #20 zombie

Completely agree with you. There is so much that is fundamentally WRONG with Barry's budget and assorted bailouts that it should be easy pickins' for the GOP. But no, they'll haggle of a line item here and a line item there and completely cower away from the big picture.

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

+1

updinger broke again?

Rush is also a creationist, and a big fan of Ben Stein.

Darwinists are more than just believing in evolution. Darwinists are now a very closed society, they do not allow anybody to disagree with what they think. They shun and fire anybody in their midst that is open to anything other than Darwinism. Darwinism is natural selection, survival of the fittest, actually eugenics. Darwinism seeks to get rid of people who are not up to par. Darwinists are not big tent people. They are not big tent people.

I still listen frequently, not a lot of options here.

re: #30 LionofDixon

I enjoyed learning about creationism in school. The teachers were so much more interesting than the ones who taught astrology.

Was Jean Dixon your teacher?

Do they really want us to go our own way?

I wonder which party can benefit from the GOP internal fightings?

re: #25 ilzito guacamolito

I too love a good argument. I am Jersey born and bred where we use words as weapons. I think that by merely shattering his image of me with one sentence did enough damage for one day.

Fair enough.

I really don't understand why Rush seems so in the tank for Jindal. We will have several governors available as viable candidates in 2012 and an even more experienced crop in 2016. It's going to be a much stronger field filled with more electable conservatives than 2008.

re: #18 Leonidas Hoplite

Besides, if these guys like him so much shouldn't they be criticizing him so that Jindal will learn something, instead of being cocooned in a shell where he won't improve himself as a politician?

I had a conversation with a French dude who made the point that it takes a true friend to tell you when you're fucking up, and not-so-true friends will keep their mouths shut rather than risk any confrontation.

I had to agree with him. My longest, closest friendships have been forged with brutal honesty.

And we have to be careful, or the MSM will jam Jindal down our collective throats the way they did with McCain. They see Jindal as their greatest hope at victory in 2012, not ours.

re: #37 winston06

I wonder which party can benefit from the GOP internal fightings?

Eventually, with some skill and some luck, the Republican Party.

re: #37 winston06

I wonder which party can benefit from the GOP internal fightings?

Over the long term, depending on how it turns out, the GOP can. But I dont see the gop coming out of the wilderness soon. Like the economy, its going to get worse before it gets better. imho.

re: #29 Amer-I-Can

Not even in the zip code...

Who is then? Palin? As much as I like her, she is not going to be President one day. We need someone who is eloquent, likable, smart and conservative. Besides a typical Lizard, where else do you find such Republicans or Conservatives?

the msm is going to do their best to give us someone like jindal.
they foisted mccain on us and now know they can commander the whole process.
we need to at last get a candidate we want.
not someone the msm is going to pick, prop up and then tear down while we watch frustrated from the sidelines.

re: #34 wrenchwench

Rush is also a creationist, and a big fan of Ben Stein.

Darwinists are more than just believing in evolution. Darwinists are now a very closed society, they do not allow anybody to disagree with what they think. They shun and fire anybody in their midst that is open to anything other than Darwinism. Darwinism is natural selection, survival of the fittest, actually eugenics. Darwinism seeks to get rid of people who are not up to par. Darwinists are not big tent people. They are not big tent people.

I still listen frequently, not a lot of options here.

You listen to someone who would say that?

Either Rush is a complete moron, or he's lying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Luckily, I have never heard his voice. And I plan to keep that perfect record.

Off Topic - have you guys seen this website. There's some hilarious comments about the annointed one on it:

[Link: whatobamameanstome.com...]

re: #41 Amer-I-Can

And we have to be careful, or the MSM will jam Jindal down our collective throats the way they did with McCain. They see Jindal as their greatest hope at victory in 2012, not ours.

They (the MSM) loved McCain because they knew he would lose...ugh

re: #37 winston06

I wonder which party can benefit from the GOP internal fightings?

The Demonrats are certain to benefit, if we don't keep it together. America will not benefit, that is certain.

Rush likes Jindal, which means he doesn't think the creationist issue important. I think it's important, but to me, that means opposing Jindal in GOP primaries, and speaking against him as against other GOP hopefuls whenever I can.

re: #28 SasquatchOnSteroids

Same here. I voted Republican up till GHB blew the election. Switched to Libertarian party after that. The only reason McCain got my vote was because I didn't want The One in the White House.

re: #20 zombie

The GOP needs to grow some cojones and challenge Obama, instead of letting themselves be chastened by the Dems and the MSM. Our country's future depends on it.

Republicans trying to make Jindal "the new ONE" need to give it up. It's too early, it's too divisive and the focus right now needs to be on 2010, not four years out. I don't want anyone shoving presidential candidates in front of me atm, the big LOSE is coming again in 2010 if this crap keeps up.

I heard Rush yesterday...he was emphasizing the fact that Conservatives were criticizing Jindal because of delivery...not because of what he said. Now I think Rush was right. Too many are looking for a conservative celebrity, of style rather then substance.

Truth was, Jindal did state the conservative position on what Obama was supporting. This is not saying Rush is supporting Jindal exclusive to every one else. I don't know that Rush will vote on one issue like creationism. Many people here would. Fine. But that wasn't the point Rush was making.

He was saying that Republicans are now eating their own because OF HOW something was stated, not because OF WHAT was stated. There analysis never dealt with substance.

Jindal may be off the presidential charts for most people, but he does believe in many conservative principles that others seem to have forgotten or others have thrown under the bus.

Who is the person out there in the Republican party that represent a real conservative nature but that also are socially secular. When we find them, we will have a winner.

Its early, people. Jindal shot his bolt right off the bat. Let's let this thing shake itself out.

OT

Another MSM paper bites the dust

Looks like the trend is accelerating. When, oh When will it be the NYT's turn?

/crossed fingers

re: #44 Desert Dog

Who is then? Palin? As much as I like her, she is not going to be President one day. We need someone who is eloquent, likable, smart and conservative. Besides a typical Lizard, where else do you find such Republicans or Conservatives?

I would have to lean towards Romney. He has leadership and REAL business experience. That will be a big selling point in 2012 with everything in the tank after "The One" sells us down the river with the biggest mass spending spree in history. Hopefully the people will wise up to his shenanigans by then.

My two cents...keep your eye on the ball and support Con/Reps against anything President Fortune Cookie comes up with. We are wasting time and energy on BS like this...sorry Charles...just sayin.

re: #31 pupdawg

Hindsight being 20/20, too bad Limbaugh could not take his own advice now back when McCain was running. Without doubt Rush Limbaugh did more damage to John McCain than any other conservative with a following and yet, now he has whined numerous times, 'don't blame me for McCain's loss.' This flies in the face of reality. In the real world, Rush Limbaugh's constant negativism concerning candidate McCain cost him votes not only from the center but more than a few degrees right of center as well. The perfect candidate does not exist in either party. Rush should know this.

Damn right. Limbaugh has a huge personal animus towards John McCain, and has for at least a decade. I think Limbaugh is close with a couple of right-wing nutjobs who are involved in the "Live POW" movement, and McCain fought to expose those guys as the frauds that they are back in the 1980s and 1990s. I can't come up with an alternative explanation for the hatred Limbaugh has spewed at McCain for many years.

re: #46 zombie

As bad as Rush can be sometimes...with all the pomposity, overblown bloviating and hyperbole, he has been the loudest, clearest voice for the right for many years. Like him or hate him, you cannot deny that.

re: #56 soccerdad

OT

Another MSM paper bites the dust

Looks like the trend is accelerating. When, oh When will it be the NYT's turn?

/crossed fingers

Tomorrow wouldn't be soon enough.

re: #55 tommygum

Its early, people. Jindal shot his bolt right off the bat. Let's let this thing shake itself out.

I would agree but for the last sentence. WE nedd to be the ones shaking it out, not the MFM.

re: #46 zombie

You listen to someone who would say that?

Either Rush is a complete moron, or he's lying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Luckily, I have never heard his voice. And I plan to keep that perfect record.

He is very entertaining. He rips on the liberals with great talent. And, seriously, I can listen to recorded music, or Rush, during my 9 to 10 hours in the shop every day. A couple hours of Rush a few times a week won't kill too many brain cells.

re: #56 soccerdad

OT

Another MSM paper bites the dust

Looks like the trend is accelerating. When, oh When will it be the NYT's turn?

/crossed fingers

I heard a rumor (in person) about 5 days ago that the NY Times will be biting the dust in about three months.

Seriously.

Can't vouch for the accuracy, but it was from a "source" who had no reason to lie.

re: #41 Amer-I-Can

And we have to be careful, or the MSM will jam Jindal down our collective throats the way they did with McCain. They see Jindal as their greatest hope at victory in 2012, not ours.

Whomever the MFMSM comes down hardest on is our boy.

Or girl.

I was just thinking that those of us between 40 and 50 are completely doomed.

First, we were the designated drivers and clean-up crew for the party the boomers had.

Now, when Obama is finished, we won't have time to rebuild after they've beaten, robbed and financially raped us.

Why did we bother trying to build a future?

Regarding Jindal and 2012 and prospects for victory in 2012... At this point in time, do you really think the MSM will allow their man Obamabi to lose?

Come on...

Even i think he has a 100% chance of reelection, no matter what he does...

re: #44 Desert Dog

Who is then? Palin? As much as I like her, she is not going to be President one day. We need someone who is eloquent, likable, smart and conservative. Besides a typical Lizard, where else do you find such Republicans or Conservatives?

There is no PERFECT candidate.

re: #31 pupdawg

Hindsight being 20/20, too bad Limbaugh could not take his own advice now back when McCain was running. Without doubt Rush Limbaugh did more damage to John McCain than any other conservative with a following and yet, now he has whined numerous times, 'don't blame me for McCain's loss.' This flies in the face of reality. In the real world, Rush Limbaugh's constant negativism concerning candidate McCain cost him votes not only from the center but more than a few degrees right of center as well. The perfect candidate does not exist in either party. Rush should know this.

Do you really think that Limbaugh had so much to do with McCain losing? I think McCain was and is his own worst enemy.

re: #56 soccerdad

OT

Another MSM paper bites the dust

Looks like the trend is accelerating. When, oh When will it be the NYT's turn?

/crossed fingers

It's at $4.03 right now.

re: #56 soccerdad

OT

Another MSM paper bites the dust

Looks like the trend is accelerating. When, oh When will it be the NYT's turn?

/crossed fingers

Man, that is the paper I grew up with...it used to be a good paper. I delivered the Denver Post in the afternoons when I was 12-13, but I read the News...

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

This is unbelievable. Is America all lost?

re: #50 quickjustice

Rush likes Jindal, which means he doesn't think the creationist issue important. I think it's important, but to me, that means opposing Jindal in GOP primaries, and speaking against him as against other GOP hopefuls whenever I can.

Rush thinks the creationist issue is very important. I think it is the reason he likes Jindal so much. They agree.

re: #35 ilzito guacamolito

No...it was some scientologist who moonlighted as a water douser. He had some cool pictures of UFOs, Yeti and shooters on the grassy knoll, though...

re: #47 Mad Al-Jaffee

Off Topic - have you guys seen this website. There's some hilarious comments about the annointed one on it:

[Link: whatobamameanstome.com...]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

/bust a gut funny, if it weren't so sad and true

Rush, banishing members for speaking their mind is a hallmark of the left, not the right.

re: #60 Desert Dog

As bad as Rush can be sometimes...with all the pomposity, overblown bloviating and hyperbole, he has been the loudest, clearest voice for the right for many years. Like him or hate him, you cannot deny that.

Actually, I know very little about Rush. I'm not plugged in to that scene. Never heard his show, never even heard his voice. I know he looms large in many people's minds, but to me he's just like some legendary creature from a culture not my own.

re: #64 zombie

I heard a rumor (in person) about 5 days ago that the NY Times will be biting the dust in about three months.

Seriously.

Can't vouch for the accuracy, but it was from a "source" who had no reason to lie.

Part of me will do a happy dance but, another part will cry.

Politics is such a volcano.

re: #64 zombie

Faster, please.

Hehe, that's awesome... Not everyone is a sheeple.

re: #47 Mad Al-Jaffee

Off Topic - have you guys seen this website. There's some hilarious comments about the annointed one on it:

[Link: whatobamameanstome.com...]

re: #54 yesandno

Style matters. Jindal's style was flat compared with Obama's. I despise BHO but honesty compels me to say that he gave a better speech. I know that it wasn't the best Jindal can do, but it was an important speech and he fell on his ass.

Let me add, I wish and PRAY I am wrong...

re: #39 cronus

good point but not so sure if there will be a USA left until 2016 if Hussein Obama is the president until then. It will be USSA. ;-)

re: #78 MandyManners

Part of me will do a happy dance but, another part will cry.

Not me, I will do a happy dance, a happy jig, a happy samba, then pee on the grave.

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

The Demonrats are certain to benefit, if we don't keep it together. America will not benefit, that is certain.

What is "keeping it together" though? Stopping "the fighting" and turning a blind eye to anti-science politicians, to creationists, to those in the pocket of the DI, to the non fiscal conservatives, to the rightmost fringe of the party?

That sounds like the Democrat version of "bipartisan" to me. You reach out to my side and I give up nothing.

re: #56 soccerdad

OT

Another MSM paper bites the dust

Looks like the trend is accelerating. When, oh When will it be the NYT's turn?

/crossed fingers

They still have one rag there, The Post.

re: #66 Dianna

I was just thinking that those of us between 40 and 50 are completely doomed.

First, we were the designated drivers and clean-up crew for the party the boomers had.

Now, when Obama is finished, we won't have time to rebuild after they've beaten, robbed and financially raped us.

Why did we bother trying to build a future?

my thoughts exactly...by the time this thing can be turned I'll be pushing up daisies...I'm pissed in the extreme

re: #2 yesandno

Rush was referring to the fact that Jindal was speaking of substantive issues and they critisized him on style.

That's because the rules have now changed. The Democrat-controlled country now demands that tuna must have good taste rather than taste good. Starkist is Democrat-driven America and the One is Charlie. They cannot get enough of him. Jindal may indeed 'taste' good, but he lacks that 'good taste' or American Idol appeal. In short, Jindal might as well be canned sardines with an 'Expired' freshness date.

re: #47 Mad Al-Jaffee

Off Topic - have you guys seen this website. There's some hilarious comments about the annointed one on it:

[Link: whatobamameanstome.com...]

My favorite: OBAMA - One Big Ass Mistake America

I want that on a t-shirt.

This is too funny. Now there's a cretinist blog dedicated to attacking me.

[Link: lgfonevolution.blogspot.com...]

Anonymous, as usual. But the dates are in Portuguese, which suggests the author may be South American.

re: #10 Bubblehead II

Republicans left you?

Check out the Modern Whig party

re: #31 pupdawg

Hindsight being 20/20, too bad Limbaugh could not take his own advice now back when McCain was running. Without doubt Rush Limbaugh did more damage to John McCain than any other conservative with a following and yet, now he has whined numerous times, 'don't blame me for McCain's loss.' This flies in the face of reality. In the real world, Rush Limbaugh's constant negativism concerning candidate McCain cost him votes not only from the center but more than a few degrees right of center as well. The perfect candidate does not exist in either party. Rush should know this.

Coulter and Malkin (and some others) were just as bad, IMHO. People still repeat Coulter's BS mantra that Hillary is "more conservative" than McCain. You ask them for a specific issue...any specific issue...and they just start screaming that you hate "true conservatives" like Ms. Coulter.

it just boggles the mind

cretinist? Ha.

re: #91 Charles

This is too funny. Now there's a cretinist blog dedicated to attacking me.

[Link: lgfonevolution.blogspot.com...]

Anonymous, as usual. But the dates are in Portuguese, which suggests the author may be South American.

Or from Portugal.

///ducks

re: #67 tfc3rid

Regarding Jindal and 2012 and prospects for victory in 2012... At this point in time, do you really think the MSM will allow their man Obamabi to lose?

Come on...

Even i think he has a 100% chance of reelection, no matter what he does...

Go eat a thistle, Eeyore!

re: #91 Charles

Charles Johnson = The Darwinist Rage Boy! (?)

BIG CRETIN IS RIPPING US OFF!

re: #91 Charles

I read cretinist as centrist at first and I was worried.

LOL

If you think Jindal reeked last night, I don’t want to hear from you again.

Why are some people so invested in Jindal?...I don't get it.

Is he really the best the Republicans can come up with?

Don't get me wrong; he seems like a nice enough fellow, but he sure ain't presidential material.

Michael Steele should have done the rebuttal, it was the perfect night to introduce him to the American public.

re: #72 winston06

This is unbelievable. Is America all lost?

Until America and Americans rediscover their backbone for lunatics running the show .. the answer is closer to YES.

Even if the Republicans come up with a serious candidate for 2012, the lefty media will do a good job of tearing him/her down just like they've done with anyone who even remotely threatened Barry's chances this past year.

re: #97 winston06

Charles Johnson = The Darwinist Rage Boy! (?)

T-shirts !

re: #101 Buster Bunny

It's plain sad.

re: #91 Charles

This is too funny. Now there's a cretinist blog dedicated to attacking me.

[Link: lgfonevolution.blogspot.com...]

Anonymous, as usual. But the dates are in Portuguese, which suggests the author may be South American.

Maybe a hot Brazilian supermodel? ;-)

/rowr!

re: #85 acwgusa

Not me, I will do a happy dance, a happy jig, a happy samba, then pee on the grave.

I grew up wanting to be a reporter at the NYT. Or, an attorney. Or, a ballerina.

re: #92 Ojoe

Republicans left you?

Check out the Modern Whig party

Hey, this Whig Party is great...why do I suddenly feel like listening to the B-52's?

re: #92 Ojoe

Republicans left you?

Check out the Modern Whig party

For some reason I don't think anyone is going to take the Modern Whig Party seriously. Unless it's 10/31. Needs a better name!

re: #66 Dianna

I was just thinking that those of us between 40 and 50 are completely doomed.

First, we were the designated drivers and clean-up crew for the party the boomers had.

Now, when Obama is finished, we won't have time to rebuild after they've beaten, robbed and financially raped us.

Why did we bother trying to build a future?

Because thats what people do, thats how we are.
We will cope, we will pick ourselves and each other up - and if it doesn't work out for us the way we dreamed about, then we can at least see to it that our children can get on.

Chin up, and all that - it was war worse for the older generation who'd lived through two World Wars. Are we that much more feeble than they were?
I don't think so!

re: #93 funky chicken

I enjoy Ann Coulter, and I thought she was off her head with that one.

re: #99 Ojoe

I read cretinist as centrist at first and I was worried.

LOL

I read it as "creationist." Heh.

Sheesh, when I first tried to load this thread, there were 17 comments, now its 102 and I'm still trying to load the page fully

re: #105 Ward Cleaver

Maybe a hot Brazilian supermodel? ;-)

/rowr!

Where's OR?

re: #102 zato

Even if the Republicans come up with a serious candidate for 2012, the lefty media will do a good job of tearing him/her down just like they've done with anyone who even remotely threatened Barry's chances this past year.

Which is sad, since 30 days on the the, 0bama and the dems are doing a wonderful job of tearing themselves down.

re: #103 SasquatchOnSteroids

well for some reason the many question marks I placed between those parenthesis are reduced to only one. weird...

re: #54 yesandno

I heard Rush yesterday...he was emphasizing the fact that Conservatives were criticizing Jindal because of delivery...not because of what he said. Now I think Rush was right. Too many are looking for a conservative celebrity, of style rather then substance.

Truth was, Jindal did state the conservative position on what Obama was supporting. This is not saying Rush is supporting Jindal exclusive to every one else. I don't know that Rush will vote on one issue like creationism. Many people here would. Fine. But that wasn't the point Rush was making.

He was saying that Republicans are now eating their own because OF HOW something was stated, not because OF WHAT was stated. There analysis never dealt with substance.

Jindal may be off the presidential charts for most people, but he does believe in many conservative principles that others seem to have forgotten or others have thrown under the bus.

Who is the person out there in the Republican party that represent a real conservative nature but that also are socially secular. When we find them, we will have a winner.

If Jindal held Creationist beliefs as his own faith. No problem. But he enforced his personal religious belief into law.

That is a deal breaker. Period!

re: #91 Charles

This is too funny. Now there's a creatinist blog dedicated to attacking me.

[Link: lgfonevolution.blogspot.com...]

Anonymous, as usual. But the dates are in Portuguese, which suggests the author may be South American.

Take it as a compliment.

i like rush. his 100% support of america is inspiring to me.
i almost have to listen to him just to counter all the fcking libs i have to deal w/
in this town. he is my buffer zone against these freaks.
he has a great sense of humor. he is a very generous guy. giving so much to
patriotic causes for law enforcement and the military.
and i love how he riles the dems. he drives them nuts.
to me he is more of an asset than a detriment.
my favorite guy tho, is mark levin.
brilliant and also funny, and a dog lover.

re: #91 Charles

Charles Johnson = The Darwinist Rage Boy!

Get the domain name! [Link: www.darwinistrageboy.com...] and forward it to LGF

I wonder what an avatar for that nic would look like? lol

re: #113 Peacekeeper

Where's OR?

off making pie somehwere

re: #105 Ward Cleaver

Maybe a hot Brazilian supermodel? ;-)

/rowr!

More like half a taco short of a full enchilada.

re: #101 Buster Bunny

Until America and Americans rediscover their backbone for lunatics running the show .. the answer is closer to YES.

Even if we do, I'm still completely screwed.

re: #91 Charles

This is too funny. Now there's a cretinist blog dedicated to attacking me.

[Link: lgfonevolution.blogspot.com...]

Anonymous, as usual. But the dates are in Portuguese, which suggests the author may be South American.

Or Portuguese!

re: #12 ilzito guacamolito

I heard him say it too. *cringed* - but that's how it goes.
the segment beofre it was genius. He played a clip of Biden spouting nonsense on one of the morning shows.

re: #69 ilzito guacamolito

Do you really think that Limbaugh had so much to do with McCain losing? I think McCain was and is his own worst enemy.

Rush lambasted McCain in 2000. (that was McCain's moment)

re: #91 Charles

This is too funny. Now there's a cretinist blog dedicated to attacking me.

[Link: lgfonevolution.blogspot.com...]

Anonymous, as usual. But the dates are in Portuguese, which suggests the author may be South American.

I'm sorry but, I spewed Dr Pepper from laughing when I read this.

Charles Johnson = The Darwinist Rage Boy!

re: #84 winston06

good point but not so sure if there will be a USA left until 2016 if Hussein Obama is the president until then. It will be USSA. ;-)

I'm not resigned to defeat legislatively or electorally. But some of the Bush era power brokers beyond Rush are really touting Jindal like there are no viable alternatives. There will be several.

re: #112 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sheesh, when I first tried to load this thread, there were 17 comments, now its 102 and I'm still trying to load the page fully

Time to upgrade from the 64K memory you've been clinging too

Another intentional distortion of the context of what someone said due to Jindal Derangement Syndrome.

"Style is not going to take our country back."

Truer words never been spoken.

re: #86 Bloodnok

What is "keeping it together" though? Stopping "the fighting" and turning a blind eye to anti-science politicians, to creationists, to those in the pocket of the DI, to the non fiscal conservatives, to the rightmost fringe of the party?

That sounds like the Democrat version of "bipartisan" to me. You reach out to my side and I give up nothing.

That's precisely what the religio-cons demand. They demanded GWB in 2000 over McCain, and we got 8 years of "compassionate conservatism."

But they still bitch that Bush (BUSH!) didn't do enough for them.

re: #86 Bloodnok

What is "keeping it together" though? Stopping "the fighting" and turning a blind eye to anti-science politicians, to creationists, to those in the pocket of the DI, to the non fiscal conservatives, to the rightmost fringe of the party?

That sounds like the Democrat version of "bipartisan" to me. You reach out to my side and I give up nothing.

The creationists need to get a clue and stop pushing bad laws. I have no intention of turning a blind eye. I'm just saying what will happen in the infighting goes on too long. Right now, it is tolerable and needed. A year from now, it'll be catastrophic.

re: #106 MandyManners

I grew up wanting to be a reporter at the NYT. Or, an attorney. Or, a ballerina.

That certainly is an eclectic mix of vocations!

re: #91 Charles

This is too funny. Now there's a cretinist blog dedicated to attacking me.

[Link: lgfonevolution.blogspot.com...]

Anonymous, as usual. But the dates are in Portuguese, which suggests the author may be South American.

Totally pathetic. These people are completely delusional.

I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since about 1992...and I was a Democrat back then!

I agree with the article that WriterMom linked to in the last thread ("A Radical Presidency" by Daniel Henninger). In the final paragraph, Henninger wrote:

Gov. Bobby Jindal's post speech reply did not come close to recognizing the gauntlet Mr. Obama has thrown down to the opposition. Unless the GOP can discover a radical message of its own to distinguish it from the president's, it should prepare to live under Mr. Obama's radicalism for at least a generation.

(Need to read the entire article to understand why Henninger is arguing that Obama is a radical, and that Jindal's response was far too tepid, and far too tame to address Obama's radicalism.)

In another article which was published today, Corcoran identifies Four Crises which Obama is exacerbating/creating: 1) The Fiscal Crisis; 2) The Investment Crisis; 3) New Financial Crises; and 4) The Energy Crisis. The GOP needs to begin to address these multiple issues.

re: #10 Bubblehead II

I didn't leave the Republican party. It left me.

I wouldn't have joined the GOP in 1996 if it resembled anything like it's 2000-current incarnation. Indeed, I'm rectifying that by going Lib'tarian ASAP.

re: #103 SasquatchOnSteroids

T-shirts !

Where will we find a pissed-off lizard for art work?

re: #128 buzzsawmonkey

I just hope the Republicans can come up with somebody to deal with the oinkment, that is all. Jindall isn't it.

re: #102 zato

Even if the Republicans come up with a serious candidate for 2012, the lefty media will do a good job of tearing him/her down just like they've done with anyone who even remotely threatened Barry's chances this past year.

They'll try, for sure. But even with that happening this past election McCain, a lousy candidate, managed to get close. It can be done. We just need to find a way to bring Reagan Democrats and I's over. I think it has been demonstrated that you can not satisfy the (I hate this term) Religious Right and satisfy the I's and undecided Ds. A choice needs to be made at some point.

re: #108 Leonidas Hoplite

All modern names have problems, I think, and are unacceptable to one group or another. We need a neutral name. "Whig" is so old, that no modern faction can claim it, nor would they want to, it is so odd.

So I think it is a pretty good name, really, for what needs to happen in this country, which is rebuilding the common feeling of "all in this together as Americans."

re: #137 SFGoth

I wouldn't have joined the GOP in 1996 if it resembled anything like it's 2000-current incarnation. Indeed, I'm rectifying that by going Lib'tarian ASAP.

Have fun in the wilderness

re: #30 LionofDixon

I enjoyed learning about creationism in school. The teachers were so much more interesting than the ones who taught astrology.

hahahahahahahaa

re: #135 buzzsawmonkey

yeah, but all the heirs dyed.

re: #126 cronus

agreed

There's no stoppin' the cretins from hoppin'
You gotta keep it beatin'
For all the hoppin' cretins

Cretin! Cretin!

I'm gonna go for a whirl with my cretin girl
My feet won't stop
Doin' the Cretin Hop

Cretin! Cretin!

1-2-3-4
Cretins wanna hop some more
4-5-6-7
All good cretins go to heaven

-Ramones

re: #142 Desert Dog

Have fun in the wilderness

And, have fun brining in the second stage of CBBHO's commie revolution in 2112.

re: #64 zombie

Current NYT stock price is $4.11. Came up a whopping .15 cents today.

re: #109 yma o hyd

Because thats what people do, thats how we are.
We will cope, we will pick ourselves and each other up - and if it doesn't work out for us the way we dreamed about, then we can at least see to it that our children can get on.

Chin up, and all that - it was war worse for the older generation who'd lived through two World Wars. Are we that much more feeble than they were?
I don't think so!

Thanks, and I will try to recover my optimism.

However, I'm watching my government conspire to ruin me. My own government!

It was one thing when I was sitting in the US' softest target, waiting for the islamofascists to try to kill me. That, I could face with equanimity.

This? This is beyond horrible.

re: #92 Ojoe

Republicans left you?

Check out the Modern Whig party

Reading their Issues page, they're middle-of-the-road, but they're not for increased domestic oil exploration. Fail.

re: #20 zombie

The reason he's lame is that he fails to offer a viable alternative to our CURRENT real problem, which is President Barack Obama, who just minutes ago introduced a disastrous "budget" which I am firmly convinced is intended to completely ruin our economy, so more radical socialistic measures can be introduced later.

You know Zombie, it is interesting you mentioned this.

For a couple of days now, I have been trying to really wrap my mind around what is playing out. When Clinton ran up to 92, the impetus of his campaign was the economy.

I can't stand the idea that at times I can find myself arriving at conclusions, such as your aforementioned, but clearly the maneuvers so far just don't make sense.

Are you thinking this is a fiscal battle of attrition to wear down the defenses, making it easier for implementation?

re: #106 MandyManners

I grew up wanting to be a reporter at the NYT. Or, an attorney. Or, a ballerina.

LOL, every girl wants to be a ballerina. I had to go my sister's recital once. Ugh. What kind of wedding did you plan? ;->

About that first post, quoting 'Perpetua' at Debbie Schlussel's site:

Perpetua Re:

Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs. I used to post regularly there but his blog has become almost unreadable due to his obsession over “creationism”. In fact many people are referring to him now as “The Darwinist Rage Boy.”

'Perpetua' registered on January 22, 2009, and posted exactly 33 comments, before melting down and going on a down-dinging spree. Hardly "posting regularly," but it's hard to collect the martyr points unless you lie a little.

(This is a good example of how banned people misrepresent the facts when they go to other blogs and smear me.)

Apparently there is a significant faction of hidebound GOP spokesmen who believe that criticizers of Bobby Jindal must be cast into the outer darkness

This kind of thing drives me nuts. These people who try to out do each other in their respective echo-chambers in chest thumping threat displays over who is the truest of true uber conservatives managed to help the DNC sandbag our only chance of blocking Obama. It was bad enough trying to go against the Obamatards but having to take on the culters and the malkins at the same time? There isn't even any satisfaction in saying I told you so at this point... When did it become "conservative" to shoot yourself in the foot? What is all of this doing for conservative principals?

re: #91 Charles

This is too funny. Now there's a cretinist blog dedicated to attacking me.

[Link: lgfonevolution.blogspot.com...]

Anonymous, as usual. But the dates are in Portuguese, which suggests the author may be South American.

From that blog:
'May the Creator, The Lord Jesus Christ,Bless America.'

Not very firm in theology, that blogger, it would seem ...

re: #91 Charles

This is too funny. Now there's a cretinist blog dedicated to attacking me.

[Link: lgfonevolution.blogspot.com...]

Anonymous, as usual. But the dates are in Portuguese, which suggests the author may be South American.

As I pointed out somewhere in this blog about three or four days or so ago, it was the people who TRIED to bring Darwin down with caricatures that publicised his works.

congratulations Charles .. you are famous now, and being broadcast on OTHER people's channels.

You could write a book 'ON THE ORIGIN OF TROLLS'

re: #118 nyc redneck

Rediscovered talk radio after 11/4. I get Levin on a tape-delay, but some of my favorites inculde Laura Ingraham and Lars Larsen. Sometimes I'm convinced that Savage, Hannity and O'Reilly are DNC operatives who will say stuff that makes it easy for libs and the MSM to paint conservatives with a broad brush.

re: #149 buzzsawmonkey

Un dyed. The Whig party shall never dye.

I dunno, how about the Federalist Party? Or does some fringe group have that? Whig just seems so archaic. Just sayin'

re: #153 SFGoth

LOL, every girl wants to be a ballerina. I had to go my sister's recital once. Ugh. What kind of wedding did you plan? ;->

It involved lotsa' hand-tatted Belgian lace and tea roses.

re: #151 Ward Cleaver

They are still getting together. E mail them with your concerns.

re: #149 buzzsawmonkey

What about the Whig Party's roots?

There only one certain way that I know of to tell if that's natural blond

re: #154 Charles

and the Portuguese creationist blog is quoting that commenter as if his remarks were said by the author of the original blog, Debbie.

re: #91 Charles

This is too funny. Now there's a cretinist blog dedicated to attacking me.

[Link: lgfonevolution.blogspot.com...]

Anonymous, as usual. But the dates are in Portuguese, which suggests the author may be South American.

Judging from the articles linked a the top of the sidebar, aligned with Answers in Genesis.

OT: USS George H.W Bush aircraft carrier is to sail for the first time as a combat ship.

re: #163 Desert Dog

There is no bush in the Whig party

/couldn't resist

Limbaugh should back off of this. Jindal will not be the candidate anyway.

re: #163 Desert Dog

There only one certain way that I know of to tell if that's natural blond

If the carpet matches the drapes?

re: #149 buzzsawmonkey

What about the Whig Party's roots?

Yeah, I keep asking who and what is behind them, but get no answers.

re: #22 Thanos

What substantive issues? He was repeating stump platitudes from the McCain / Palin campaign. The only thing he didn't say was "I'll reach across the aisle."

re: #116 Russkilitlover

I agree...

If Jindal held Creationist beliefs as his own faith. No problem. But he enforced his personal religious belief into law.

That is a deal breaker. Period!

Here is the transcript

Can Obamble speak without a teleprompter?

re: #168 opnion

And shall we never stop living in a presidential campaign?

Sometimes I want to join a monastery.

re: #142 Desert Dog

Have fun in the wilderness

Will do! Thanks for the good wishes. I'll send word back as soon as I've got the fire roaring and the scotch flowing. You enjoy the clash between the Second Holy Roman Empire, the U.S.S.A., and the Caliphate.

re: #154 Charles

About that first post, quoting 'Perpetua' at Debbie Schlussel's site:

This person registered on January 22, 2009, and posted exactly 33 comments, before melting down and going on a down-dinging spree. Hardly "posting regularly," but it's hard to collect the martyr points unless you lie a little.

(This is a good example of how banned people misrepresent the facts when they go to other blogs and smear me.)

she is a estúpido vencido

re: #149 buzzsawmonkey

I won't root for them as long as they cling bitterly to their Jindal. Actually, not true at all, I would root for anyone who is not a member of this Washington crowd.

The only portugese I respect is covered in Peri-Peri sauce and answers to the name Nandos !

Viva Los Frangos !

re: #158 Fenway_Nation

Rediscovered talk radio after 11/4. I get Levin on a tape-delay, but some of my favorites inculde Laura Ingraham and Lars Larsen. Sometimes I'm convinced that Savage, Hannity and O'Reilly are DNC operatives who will say stuff that makes it easy for libs and the MSM to paint conservatives with a broad brush.

i don't like savage or o'reilly.
i love laura ingraham.
and hannity is ok. i can't believe there's a conspiracy to malign us.
most of what the people say, who i listen to, isn't that inflammatory.

re: #175 SFGoth

Will do! Thanks for the good wishes. I'll send word back as soon as I've got the fire roaring and the scotch flowing. You enjoy the clash between the Second Holy Roman Empire, the U.S.S.A., and the Caliphate.

Keep the fire going and bring extra marshmallows, we all may come climbing over mountains one day if things continue they way they are now

re: #171 yesandno

I read the transcript, and didn't see anything different than the generic Republican pablum spoonfed the past three elections. Like I said the other night when I quoted from the transcript, parts appear crimped from McCain / Palin stump speeches. The only specific was his attack on Science.

re: #147 MandyManners

And, have fun brining in the second stage of CBBHO's commie revolution in 2112.

"Attention all planets of the Solar Federation. Attention all planets of the Solar Federation. We have assumed control. We have assumed control. We have assumed control." AND "We run in circles. Our days are numbered. Every night I look away, to the heavens and I pray..."

re: #172 buzzsawmonkey

Funny, that's MacBeth (Scotland)

And Whig comes from Whiggamore, a scottish place.

Wiki article

Rush, DUDE... get a grip!

It's not a bad thing to suggest that someone sucked, when they really DID suck. It's called honesty.

What, are we going to be so intellectually dishonest now that we're going to automatically reject any criticism of a conservative politician by default? Even when that person deserves it because they say something stupid or turn in a bad performance?

Intellectual dishonesty... let's not go there, mmmkay?

And now, for a bit of light humor:

Click me

Dick Morris points out what we've all noticed. That Obama is miaking things worse. My theory, is that it is his goal. [Link: thehill.com...]

1) Intelligent Design is bunk -- from following links from this blog, I learned that it's not an honest search for God in the universe, but rather a calculated political movement to undermine the denomination-neutral standard for public schools.

2) Anthropogenic Global Warming is bunk -- and its proponents are on as much of a religious crusade as the proponents of ID. It is as dangerous to science as ID, and more dangerous to our way of life.

Because AGW fanaticism seeks to destroy our economy and our freedoms, I view it as more dangerous than ID. If forced to choose between a Democrat determined to remake the world in the name of the carbon-neutral religion and a Republican who wants to force children to learn about dinosaurs missing the Ark, I will reluctantly choose the latter and then expend the effort to keep their anti-science out of schools.

But it's of course better to look for someone who's not scientifically illiterate to carry the GOP banner.

re: #167 Ojoe

The whigs will only serve to split the conservative/libertarian/center right vote and work to elect democrats. Instead of re-inventing the wheel we need to take the GOP back from the cretins.

A president contradicts himself all night long

[Link: www.reason.com...]

re: #183 Ojoe

Er, Scottish term, not place.

re: #150 Dianna

Thanks, and I will try to recover my optimism.

However, I'm watching my government conspire to ruin me. My own government!

It was one thing when I was sitting in the US' softest target, waiting for the islamofascists to try to kill me. That, I could face with equanimity.

This? This is beyond horrible.

It is - but you all in the USA can do something about it and start fighting back. Next date - 2010.
We have had to bear this stuff for nearly 12 years now, thanks to the different system. the booming economy also helped to keep that NuLab lot in power.
Its different for you - and the sooner you start the easier it will be to deal with the clearing-up.
I'm certain you'll find the right person, and the right candidates for 2010.

re: #158 Fenway_Nation

Rediscovered talk radio after 11/4. I get Levin on a tape-delay, but some of my favorites inculde Laura Ingraham and Lars Larsen. Sometimes I'm convinced that Savage, Hannity and O'Reilly are DNC operatives who will say stuff that makes it easy for libs and the MSM to paint conservatives with a broad brush.

You got one out of three. Democrat Party operatives...

Savage absolutely 100% phony.

Hannity no he is just Hannity.

O'Reilly is not nor ever has been a conservatives he is a finger in the wind populous.

re: #41 Amer-I-Can

And we have to be careful, or the MSM will jam Jindal down our collective throats the way they did with McCain. They see Jindal as their greatest hope at victory in 2012, not ours.

Wish I could up-ding more than once...

re: #183 Ojoe

Funny, that's MacBeth (Scotland)

And Whig comes from Whiggamore, a scottish place.

Wiki article

Better than Tories, which means outlaw, I believe

re: #157 Buster Bunny

As I pointed out somewhere in this blog about three or four days or so ago, it was the people who TRIED to bring Darwin down with caricatures that publicised his works.

congratulations Charles .. you are famous now, and being broadcast on OTHER people's channels.

You could write a book 'ON THE ORIGIN OF TROLLS'

Sample chapters of that book:

The devolution of Nodrog
A study of the Clueless Creationist
Mobys are Dicks

And lastly: Half-troll, half-lizard hybrids, featuring spacejesus as the case study.

Other chapter suggestions welcome.

re: #190 yma o hyd

It is - but you all in the USA can do something about it and start fighting back. Next date - 2010.
We have had to bear this stuff for nearly 12 years now, thanks to the different system. the booming economy also helped to keep that NuLab lot in power.
Its different for you - and the sooner you start the easier it will be to deal with the clearing-up.
I'm certain you'll find the right person, and the right candidates for 2010.

Just in time for the next in the Rocky series ... Rocky XXXIII - Rocky vs Meds.

re: #187 Boxy_brown

The GOP is toast if you ask me, I live in Ca. and there are so many people here who automatically assume that Republicans are evil that you would not believe it. The urban centers of the USA are full of people who will never vote, or join the Republicans, it is almost genetic with them.

re: #180 Desert Dog

Keep the fire going and bring extra marshmallows, we all may come climbing over mountains one day if things continue they way they are now

I'm logging blog comments just like Santa Claus so you better watch out if you expect asylum.

re: #69 ilzito guacamolito

Do you really think that Limbaugh had so much to do with McCain losing? I think McCain was and is his own worst enemy.

1,000% yes I do.
His attacks on McCain were brutal as well as seemingly neverending. During the primaries and certainly during the run after nomination Limbaugh should have received a check from the DNC or at least flowers, candy and cards from Obama and democrats each week pre-election.

re: #196 Ojoe

The GOP is toast if you ask me, I live in Ca. and there are so many people here who automatically assume that Republicans are evil that you would not believe it. The urban centers of the USA are full of people who will never vote, or join the Republicans, it is almost genetic with them.

Sadly, CA may be toast.

re: #187 Boxy_brown

The whigs will only serve to split the conservative/libertarian/center right vote and work to elect democrats. Instead of re-inventing the wheel we need to take the GOP back from the cretins.

Perhaps...but wasn't the GOP originally a splinter group, or a group that rose from the rubble of at least one other party? My knowledge of history is fuzzy in that period. I guess the point being, that it might take more than one or two election cycles to get a viable alternative going

re: #173 winston06

Can Obamble speak without a teleprompter?

er, uh, no. :)

Took almost 100 comments for my page to refresh

re: #186 stuiec

1) Intelligent Design is bunk -- from following links from this blog, I learned that it's not an honest search for God in the universe, but rather a calculated political movement to undermine the denomination-neutral standard for public schools.

2) Anthropogenic Global Warming is bunk -- and its proponents are on as much of a religious crusade as the proponents of ID. It is as dangerous to science as ID, and more dangerous to our way of life.

Because AGW fanaticism seeks to destroy our economy and our freedoms, I view it as more dangerous than ID. If forced to choose between a Democrat determined to remake the world in the name of the carbon-neutral religion and a Republican who wants to force children to learn about dinosaurs missing the Ark, I will reluctantly choose the latter and then expend the effort to keep their anti-science out of schools.

But it's of course better to look for someone who's not scientifically illiterate to carry the GOP banner.

Just so! Upding!

re: #185 kansas

it is his goal, indeed.

23:05 Lebanon: Six Israeli warplanes violate country`s airspace in one-hour flyover (AP)

Don't you have to be a viable country before you actually have airspace?

re: #20 zombie

The Democratic Party is a horror-film monster chasing America down a hallway.
The Republican Party is the monster's first victim, as usual shown to be a hapless buffoon.

We sit in the audience, aghast.

I suddenly feel like the GOP is wearing a red shirt and has the rank of Ensign.

re: #201 Dark_Falcon

I knew I was not alone on that ;-)

re: #200 Leonidas Hoplite

Perhaps...but wasn't the GOP originally a splinter group, or a group that rose from the rubble of at least one other party? My knowledge of history is fuzzy in that period. I guess the point being, that it might take more than one or two election cycles to get a viable alternative going

They split from the Whigs, right?

re: #199 Peacekeeper

Sadly, CA may be toast.

At least the left/coastal part of it

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

Sample chapters of that book:

The devolution of Nodrog
A study of the Clueless Creationist
Mobys are Dicks

And lastly: Half-troll, half-lizard hybrids, featuring spacejesus as the case study.

Other chapter suggestions welcome.

Why creationists seem to form at the end of a page and debate themselves.
Why more trolls seem to want to create a grandiose speech just before the blammo button is hit.
Why once struck out of the ballpark .. the troll goes on to boast about what a fantastic thing it was losing to Charles in the first place.

re: #205 Nevergiveup

23:05 Lebanon: Six Israeli warplanes violate country`s airspace in one-hour flyover (AP)

Don't you have to be a viable country before you actually have airspace?

Just a little recon action.

re: #91 Charles

I have to wonder, how strong is their faith if they think LGF is going to cause the collapse of Christianity.

To me Jindal's response was exactly what's wrong with the Republican Party. They are tepid, the message is lackluster, and they are trying to be Democrat Light. That's what lost us the election folks (that and the ACORN shenanigans). Until and unless they grow a pair and stop worrying that they are going to be labeled racist (and they will whether or not it's a mild message or a hardcore one) we can anticipate that we will be looking at a two-term O presidency *shudders*

The Repubs better get a clue and fast, 2010 approaches.

re: #14 MJ

You can always try to explain away a crappy speech by claiming it's race:

Bobby Jindal and Racial Stereotypes

[Link: blogs.tnr.com...]

The truth (and now irony) is that those creationist prone bible-belters (rednecks) Repub leaning voters cost Bobby Jindal his LA Gov race bid against school teacher Dem, K. Blanco in 2003. And was not just the "crackers" in North LA, but those in the Repub parishes (counties) on the North Shore of Lake Pontchartrain. Why? Skin tone! Go check the vote in '03 by Parish to see the truth. So, not all see BJ as that nice young intern, minority type, IMHO. How this may play on a larger political stage is anyone's guess. Just stating the facts.

re: #200 Leonidas Hoplite

Perhaps...but wasn't the GOP originally a splinter group, or a group that rose from the rubble of at least one other party? My knowledge of history is fuzzy in that period. I guess the point being, that it might take more than one or two election cycles to get a viable alternative going

The Republican Party arose from the ashes of the old Whig Party when that party disintegrated over issues related to slavery in the early 1950's.

re: #188 winston06

wow. Great article. (that speech of Obama's -- all the contradictions -- it was dizzying -- all the flip-flops, all the reversals -- it reminded me of his campaign speeches...all things to everyone, while clearly endorsing nothing...that's Obama.)

re: #205 Nevergiveup

23:05 Lebanon: Six Israeli warplanes violate country`s airspace in one-hour flyover (AP)

Don't you have to be a viable country before you actually have airspace?

Well, all those brave Hezbollah fighters had to stop setting up missiles in their Grandma's house and run to the UN troops for cover. It was very disruptive.

There is no place for economic conservatives to go, we will be wandering in the wilderness for eight years while the messed up Republican party sticks to their creationist shtick. Republican party, what a pack of losers candidates. They acted like Democrats throughout the Bush administration and now they have lost all credibility.

re: #206 ArchangelMichael

I suddenly feel like the GOP is wearing a red shirt and has the rank of Ensign.

I live for a chance to post this.

You didn't click on my link.

You guys suck :).

/bored out of my tree this afternoon

re: #212 stuiec

I have to wonder, how strong is their faith if they think LGF is going to cause the collapse of Christianity.

Not very, I'd say.

re: #196 Ojoe

Yes, Pavlovian. They can't think for themselves.

But who can blame them.

re: #206 ArchangelMichael

I suddenly feel like the GOP is wearing a red shirt and has the rank of Ensign.

Does this mean we're going to see William Shatner with his shirt off at some point in the near future?

re: #187 Boxy_brown

The whigs will only serve to split the conservative/libertarian/center right vote and work to elect democrats. Instead of re-inventing the wheel we need to take the GOP back from the cretins.

Or the Democrat party. If the leftist nutters die out before the creationist nutters do, the D party will be easier to rescue.

For 2010, yeah, probably try for sane GOP primary victories. I'm not super optimistic because the creationist fundamentalists have completely taken over the GOP grassroots. I have to give them credit for the hard work, even as I despair over the damage they have done.

re: #216 J.S.

Chairman O is vague and thats his tactic to confuse us all.

re: #58 ~BfromTX

My two cents...keep your eye on the ball and support Con/Reps against anything President Fortune Cookie comes up with. We are wasting time and energy on BS like this...sorry Charles...just sayin.

I don't see how anyone here is "wasting time and energy on BS like this." This is something worthy of consideration, IMO.

Let's face it, my fellow conservatives, there is no perfect conservative candidate out there. Nor is there likely to be one by 2012. All of them have issues in which I disagree with them, with Jindall it's the teaching of creationism in schools. Palin, Romney, McCain, you name it, all have their liabilities.

They all, however, pale in comparison next to this man we have as President as we speak. I hate this choosing the lesser of two evils shit, but that's reality. Even though I think McCain would have increased spending, I'm convinced it wouldn't be anything like we're seeing with Obama.

So even though I have issues with Jindall, I'd vote for him in a New York minute over Obama or any other Democrat.

re: #220 Irish Rose

You didn't click on my link.

You guys suck :).

/bored out of my tree this afternoon

What link?

re: #206 ArchangelMichael

I suddenly feel like the GOP is wearing a red shirt and has the rank of Ensign.

Red shirts on a carrier are the weapons guys:

Image: va164-oriskany66.jpg

Red Shirts: Aviation ordnance crews. Load and "arm" those weapons on the aircraft. Sometimes referred to as "BB Stackers", or "Ordies".

re: #223 ConservatismNow!

Does this mean we're going to see William Shatner with his shirt off at some point in the near future?

I hope not

Splintering in to ever smaller and more divisive factions, like Christianity.

re: #196 Ojoe

The GOP is toast if you ask me, I live in Ca. and there are so many people here who automatically assume that Republicans are evil that you would not believe it. The urban centers of the USA are full of people who will never vote, or join the Republicans, it is almost genetic with them.

It was the same here in the UK for the Tories, after NuLab won the elections in a landslide in 1997 and 2001, with Tony Blair.
Tories were evil monsters, they were 'The Nasty Party'.

Times have changed, started changing at the last elections in 2005.
Now - people are so disgusted with NuLab and all their politicians that even the MFM are taking notice.

I bet by 2010 a lot of those you speak of will sing froma different songsheet! The economical situation will see to that ...

re: #212 stuiec

A strong faith feels the presence of God as a fact 24/7 and has no worries about it.

It is a strong support that you can feel, and it is not dependent on anything.

Least of all does it go around engendering controversies.

***WARNING SEVERE NAUSEA ALERT***

Why doesn't this poor woman's family put in a home for the insane?

re: #88 albusteve

my thoughts exactly...by the time this thing can be turned I'll be pushing up daisies...I'm pissed in the extreme

You and me both. Going by my parents' lifespans, I have something between 15 and 20 years to go, assuming decent medical care -- a pretty big assumption, at the moment.

re: #227 Land Shark

The perfect candidate for 2012?

Megan Fox !

She's single .. she has no idea about politics .. she's .. single .. she is hot ..

I'd vote for her based on her .. um .. principles.

re: #43 GOPninja

Over the long term, depending on how it turns out, the GOP can. But I dont see the gop coming out of the wilderness soon. Like the economy, its going to get worse before it gets better. imho.

You are making a serious assumption in thinking the economy will get better. I hope, but I dare not say it. It will definitely get worse, but no one every said what goes down, must come up...

The Coalition for a Democratic Majority (CDM) was founded by "Scoop" Jackson Democrats in response to the nomination of George McGovern as the Democratic candidate for the 1972 presidential election. Their goal was to rally the supporters of a liberal anti-communist foreign policy in the Democratic Party and "take the party back" from a constituency that they viewed as McGovern's "hard left" radicals, who were identified with the New Left movement.

re: #184 Irish Rose

And now, for a bit of light humor:

Click me

whew - ugliest freedom fighter on. the. planet.

re: #181 Thanos

I read the transcript, and didn't see anything different than the generic Republican pablum spoonfed the past three elections. Like I said the other night when I quoted from the transcript, parts appear crimped from McCain / Palin stump speeches. The only specific was his attack on Science.

Well, my personal opinion is that other then generalities, not much one can say in 15 minutes that would not only assuage what the 0 stated in the 'Not the SOTU', but all the press coverage the 0 has had for the past month. I wouldn't have bothered having a response to a non-SOTU...period.

Again, you may not think what he said was substance...and that is worthy of argument. They only considered presentation. And that is why Rush was angry. Had they said something about what he said, generally or specific, I don't think we would have heard the same from Rush.

re: #198 pupdawg

1,000% yes I do.
His attacks on McCain were brutal as well as seemingly neverending. During the primaries and certainly during the run after nomination Limbaugh should have received a check from the DNC or at least flowers, candy and cards from Obama and democrats each week pre-election.

I think a couple of bouqets and Hallmarks went to McCain as well. I could not believe how he just let himself be steamrolled. At least Palin helped him close the gap, but it didn't take long for McCain to throw her under the bus as if she cost him the election. I did the democrat thing and held my nose.

re: #196 Ojoe

"The GOP is toast if you ask me, I live in Ca."

You might have mentioned that.

"I live in Ca. and there are so many people here who automatically assume that Republicans are evil that you would not believe it."

They assume that the GOP is "evil" because the opposition has created a comprehensive system incorporating the media and the bastardized educational system for getting their own way. This didn't happen overnight but it has happened. We need to reform the party and we also need to reform the way we counter these messages. Jindel obviously isn't the communicator that we need t help us do so.

re: #229 Nevergiveup

Red shirts on a carrier are the weapons guys:

[Link: www.a4skyhawk.org...]

Red Shirts: Aviation ordnance crews. Load and "arm" those weapons on the aircraft. Sometimes referred to as "BB Stackers", or "Ordies".

Then lets get to loading up some logic and reality bombs to drop on the public. Remind the people you know about how much damage Obama will do to them personally. Describe how they'll be hurt. Scare them, so they'll have a reason to oppose BHO.

re: #222 formercorpsman

What madness in that video!

re: #234 jcm

Posting my link again, just for you.

re: #92 Ojoe

Bookmarked. I will check it out later. Thanks.

re: #234 jcm

***WARNING SEVERE NAUSEA ALERT***

Why doesn't this poor woman's family put in a home for the insane?

Sutpid, fucking clueless asshole.

re: #205 Nevergiveup

23:05 Lebanon: Six Israeli warplanes violate country`s airspace in one-hour flyover (AP)

Don't you have to be a viable country before you actually have airspace?

Scramble the Lebanon Air Force, three Piper Cubs, a Hot Air Balloon, and eight box kites.

/S

re: #232 yma o hyd

We shall see!

Too bad it takes this economic mess!

Ronald Reagan must be rolling over in his grave

re: #200 Leonidas Hoplite

Perhaps...but wasn't the GOP originally a splinter group, or a group that rose from the rubble of at least one other party?

Do we have the 20-30 years that it took to build the GOP to build the neo-whigs? Look at the damage they have done in a month!

Besides... The "Whigs".. come on..

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

Sample chapters of that book:

The devolution of Nodrog
A study of the Clueless Creationist
Mobys are Dicks

And lastly: Half-troll, half-lizard hybrids, featuring spacejesus as the case study.

Other chapter suggestions welcome.

The Repenitant Troll

re: #247 MandyManners

Sutpid, fucking clueless asshole.

Yes Mandy, but you're holding back again.
What do you really think?

I like Jindal he has a lot to offer even if I don't agree with him on every issue. He is good for conservatism. Not sure if he should be the banner carrier but I am glad that we do have some young bright minds. Remember people he is only 37 years old!

re: #245 Irish Rose

Posting my link again, just for you.

Have you noticed that it looks like she's melting like a wax figure in a hot desert?

re: #93 funky chicken

Coulter and Malkin (and some others) were just as bad, IMHO. People still repeat Coulter's BS mantra that Hillary is "more conservative" than McCain. You ask them for a specific issue...any specific issue...and they just start screaming that you hate "true conservatives" like Ms. Coulter.

it just boggles the mind

You are totally correct. IMHO, neither Coulter nor Malkin have the coverage and influence of Limbaugh. They were certainly allies of Rush in spewing conservative discontent with the Republican candidate of choice. All three should have shut the fudge up and aligned themselves with the choice of the party and its conservative base. Surely, their individual and once begun, collective egos overpowered their ability to reason. The fact remains they 'helped' Barack Obama get elected by 'damaging' John McCain in the eyes, ears and minds of voters who were deciding for whom to cast their ballots. Some conservatives will not forget the roles these three played in this lost election. End of story.

re: #247 MandyManners

Sutpid, fucking clueless asshole.

Don't sugar coat it next time.

re: #20 zombie

Jindal was lame. A lame excuse for a spokesman.

Now that I'm in the outer darkness, I say:

The reason he's lame is that he fails to offer a viable alternative to our CURRENT real problem, which is President Barack Obama, who just minutes ago introduced a disastrous "budget" which I am firmly convinced is intended to completely ruin our economy, so more radical socialistic measures can be introduced later.

The Republicans have a chance to point this out. Instead, they whine about trivialities like volcano-monitoring.

The Democratic Party is a horror-film monster chasing America down a hallway.
The Republican Party is the monster's first victim, as usual shown to be a hapless buffoon.

We sit in the audience, aghast.

I say divide and conquer. Have Palin be the spokeswoman for energy. Let Mitt hammer Obama on commerce. Let Rudy Hammer Obama on National Security. Let McCain hammer Obama on earmarks. Let Jeb Bush be the go to guy and hammer obama on education policy - he's fluent on this. Let Jindal be the spokesman for reforming goverment structure.