Moussa Abu Marzouk Goes to Gaza, For the First Time in a Long Time

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Hamas leader Moussa Abu Marzouk, deported from the US in 1997, suddenly feels comfy enough to “secretly” visit Gaza, instead of spewing his bloodthirsty eliminationism from a safe haven in Syria: Top Syria-based Hamas leader secretly visits Gaza.

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip – A top Syria-based Hamas leader secretly crossed into Gaza for his first visit in decades, an Egyptian security official on the border said Saturday.

Moussa Abu Marzouk entered the Gaza Strip late on Thursday with three other Hamas officials before returning to Egypt the following day, the official said. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press.

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1 6pat6  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:36:40pm

Gaza. Oh, boy. 900 million dollars.

2 gman  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:36:52pm

Change!

3 6pat6  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:37:15pm

Change for the same!

4 6pat6  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:37:34pm

Hope for more BS!

5 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:37:36pm

Secret? How come we know about it?

6 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:39:00pm

Is it OK to say "target rich environment" for this terrorist?

7 Kragar  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:39:03pm

Hopefully, he feels more confident and tries crossing again. Then they can kill him.

8 pat  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:39:39pm

He should have been greeted with 5 or so rockets.

9 6pat6  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:39:46pm

And Israel needed just a few more days to completely finish the job. Two years from now, they'll be back in to do the same - a third time. With $900M going into a steaming shithole like Gaza, and the US essentially paying to rearm and strengthen Hamas.

Gosh. Wow, what a deal that is, huh?

10 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:40:14pm

If he is so comfortable with Gaza, why did he have to secretly visit?
Cowardly SOB!

11 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:40:20pm

Such a mystery why he would feel ok to start traveling around again.
///

12 kafir lover  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:40:34pm

re: #5 BignJames

He spoke with Ibrahim Barzak - the 'secret' Hamas media arm of the AP.

13 topazpilot  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:40:57pm

Hellfire missiles away!

14 6pat6  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:41:02pm

Exactly! Present him a laurel of peace - accompanied by a dozen lovely matching missiles.

15 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:42:33pm

re: #14 6pat6

Exactly! Present him a laurel of peace - accompanied by a dozen lovely matching missiles.

Actually, Sheriff Bart had the idea -
Candygram for Abu Marzouk!

16 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:42:40pm

Did they interview the women and children he hid behind while he was there?

17 topazpilot  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:42:43pm

re: #11 ArmyWife

He has great Hope that a Change has indeed come!

18 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:43:00pm

re: #1 6pat6

It's not really that much any more. Besides, Gaza is too big to let fail.

19 6pat6  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:43:04pm

re: #15 Kosh's Shadow

Good one!

20 screaming_eagle  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:43:05pm

It's OK. Obama is president now.

21 researchok  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:43:16pm

More and more, Middle East realities are like living in a Salvador Dali painting.

The Israelis needs to blow Marzouk to Kingdom Come. He's made clear where he stands.

22 freedombilly  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:43:19pm

Is it me or do a lot of people feel comfortable with Obama in the White House?

23 Cheese Eater  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:43:19pm

Is there not a reward for his scalp?

24 6pat6  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:43:52pm

re: #18 shiek al beif salami

Yeah, these days, what's a billion dollars, anyway? Small "change".

25 huckfunn  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:44:15pm

R.I.P. Paul Harvey. He was one of a kind.

26 gman  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:44:22pm

I have a dreadful feeling this is just the beginning of terrorists feeling more comfortable to do what they like to do.
It's all part of Obama's "Unclench Your Fist&trade" policy.

27 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:44:47pm

re: #22 freedombilly

Sure....as an elevator attendant....maybe.

28 solomonpanting  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:45:18pm
Abu Marzouk is number two in the Hamas hierarchy. He was born in Gaza and grew up in a refugee camp in the southern part of the strip, but hasn't been back in several decades.

Which is why he's still alive.

29 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:45:26pm

international donors will meet in Egypt for a conference on Gaza's reconstruction. The Palestinians are seeking $2.8 billion. .... the donor money will be sent to the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah, bypassing Hamas' Gaza leadership.
Hillary is attending the conference.

30 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:45:31pm

re: #26 gman

They've unclenched their fist to release their middle finger.

31 screaming_eagle  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:46:02pm

re: #22 freedombilly

Is it me or do a lot of people feel comfortable with Obama in the White House?

Sure alot of people are comfortable. ABC , CBS, NBC , and on and on.

32 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:46:03pm

re: #29 notutopia

Because she no longer is in need of the Jewish vote in New York. Shocked?

33 6pat6  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:46:56pm

re: #20 screaming_eagle

It's OK. Obama is president now.

Yup. Feel how the world loves us already! I'm waiting with basited breath for the first Middle East "Hug Summit". Isn't that all we really need? Who needs all those silly missiles and rockets, and those bad, bad guns anymore? The Chosen One, His Majesty BHO, is on the job now. In fact, they've gotten rid of the word "terrorist" now, because terrorism doesn't exist anymore on Planet Obama.

34 solomonpanting  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:47:22pm

re: #25 huckfunn

R.I.P. Paul Harvey. He was one of a kind.

He certainly was.
"Good day."

35 6pat6  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:47:40pm

PIMF - basited - baited

36 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:48:07pm

re: #32 ArmyWife

Because she no longer is in need of the Jewish vote in New York. Shocked?


According to Al Haig....if anything happened to Obama...she'd be in charge...right?

37 Racer X  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:48:23pm

re: #29 notutopia

international donors will meet in Egypt for a conference on Gaza's reconstruction. The Palestinians are seeking $2.8 billion. .... the donor money will be sent to the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah, bypassing Hamas' Gaza leadership.
Hillary is attending the conference.

Why do we reward poor behavior? Hamas are terrorists - they proved it on the day they took power in Gaza. The people of Gaza elected terrorists - let them wallow in it until they decide there is a better way.

38 gman  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:49:14pm

While they get busy unclenching their fists, we sit here helpless and frustrated with clenched fists. Great f--king policy.

39 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:50:04pm

re: #36 BignJames

In charge? No. There is So Smart He Is Dumb Biden, then Pelosi, then (and I'm not kidding) Byrd. THEN Hillary gets a shot at the Oval Office.

40 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:50:30pm

Mugabe's Birthday Party, thrown for him by Supporters
[Link: cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com...]

41 Cognito  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:51:21pm

Oh, no, please no.

Huckabee, along with a half-dozen other staffers from Fox News, are about to play some "hot rockin' blues." Because of the economy.

I know I should change the channel. But I feel compelled to watch it this once, with eyes propped open a la Clockwork Orange, so that I can warn my children, and their children, and their children after them.

42 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:51:52pm

re: #37 Racer X

Why do we reward poor behavior? Hamas are terrorists - they proved it on the day they took power in Gaza. The people of Gaza elected terrorists - let them wallow in it until they decide there is a better way.

You mean like us...wallowing.

43 screaming_eagle  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:52:14pm

re: #33 6pat6

Yeh, cause you never hear anything bad about the US from overseas anymore. Was just a magic switch only Obama knew how to work.

44 Cognito  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:52:38pm

re: #39 ArmyWife

In charge? No. There is So Smart He Is Dumb Biden, then Pelosi, then (and I'm not kidding) Byrd. THEN Hillary gets a shot at the Oval Office.

The republic would descend into chaos long before anyone let Byrd near the rudder. Open civil war would be the better alternative, at that point.

45 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:52:39pm

re: #41 Cognito

Oh, no, please no.

Huckabee, along with a half-dozen other staffers from Fox News, are about to play some "hot rockin' blues." Because of the economy.

I know I should change the channel. But I feel compelled to watch it this once, with eyes propped open a la Clockwork Orange, so that I can warn my children, and their children, and their children after them.

Quick, look for the button on your remote labeled "mute". I know you will thank me later.

46 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:53:50pm

re: #40 notutopia

Mugabe's Birthday Party, thrown for him by Supporters
[Link: cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com...]

Too bad it wasn't his wake.....what a pile of sh*t

47 Racer X  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:54:03pm

re: #42 notutopia

You mean like us...wallowing.

Sadly, yes.

48 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:54:30pm

re: #40 notutopia

Was Jummah be there?

49 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:54:36pm

re: #39 ArmyWife

In charge? No. There is So Smart He Is Dumb Biden, then Pelosi, then (and I'm not kidding) Byrd. THEN Hillary gets a shot at the Oval Office.

Mere details for Herself.

50 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:55:03pm

re: #46 Desert Dog

Too bad it wasn't his wake.....what a pile of sh*t

While his people are starving.....Eat cake!

51 Racer X  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:55:15pm

Yay! Its bath night!

52 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:56:01pm
53 Cognito  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:56:31pm

No, no. No. No.

No.

"You ever wake up with a woman on your mind?.."

I'm bleeding from the eyes and ears.

54 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:58:01pm

re: #48 shiek al beif salami

Was Jummah be there?

I'm sure Hillary will carry his words and thoughts of well wishing with her.

55 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:58:37pm

re: #52 Iron Fist

Well, now that the evil and stupid GWB is gone and the wonderful and enlightened Obama has replaced him, the world loves us again. I am getting warm and fuzzy feelings from all that love, are you?

/

56 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:59:05pm

re: #51 Racer X

Sweet!

57 Cognito  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:59:34pm

^*(&^&IJKj....

58 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:00:13pm

re: #55 Desert Dog

I guess the Mumbai gunmen never got the memo about Obama. Wasn't that an Iowahawk column?

59 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:00:18pm
60 Killian Bundy  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:01:25pm
A top Syria-based Hamas leader secretly crossed into Gaza for his first visit in decades

Who's going to stop him?

/Obama's crack team of Hillary Clinton, Chas Freeman, and Samantha Power?

61 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:01:43pm

re: #54 notutopia

Did you notice Mugs' Young Pioneer scarf?

62 gman  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:03:11pm

re: #43 screaming_eagle

Yeh, cause you never hear anything bad about the US from overseas anymore. Was just a magic switch only Obama knew how to work.

It's freakishly strange how everyone in Europe seems to have the same political views.
It couldn't be because they grow up listening to all of those state- controlled radio and TV stations, could it?
//

63 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:05:39pm
64 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:06:12pm

re: #17 topazpilot

He has great Hope that a Change has indeed come!

And 900 Million is one hell of a lot of change, let's send it over in quarters...:)

/s

65 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:08:36pm

re: #64 Dustyvet

Or Zimbabwe bank notes, to honor Mugabe.

66 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:09:03pm

re: #65 shiek al beif salami

Or Zimbabwe bank notes, to honor Mugabe.

I like your idea better...:)

67 jcm  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:10:04pm

Obama Saturday day address.

We sought a government that served not the interests of powerful lobbyists or the wealthiest few, but the middle-class Americans I met every day in every community along the campaign trail – responsible men and women who are working harder than ever, worrying about their jobs, and struggling to raise their families. In so many town halls and backyards, they spoke of their hopes for a government that finally confronts the challenges that their families face every day; a government that treats their tax dollars as responsibly as they treat their own hard-earned paychecks.

That is the change I promised as a candidate for president. It is the change the American people voted for in November. And it is the change represented by the budget I sent to Congress this week.

[snip]

This budget also reflects the stark reality of what we’ve inherited – a trillion dollar deficit, a financial crisis, and a costly recession. Given this reality, we’ll have to be more vigilant than ever in eliminating the programs we don’t need in order to make room for the investments we do need. I promised to do this by going through the federal budget page by page, and line by line. That is a process we have already begun, and I am pleased to say that we’ve already identified two trillion dollars worth of deficit-reductions over the next decade. We’ve also restored a sense of honesty and transparency to our budget, which is why this one accounts for spending that was hidden or left out under the old rules.

GAH!

68 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:10:09pm

re: #63 Iron Fist

If by "warm and fuzzy" you mean "premonition of catastrophic disaster", then yes, I'm feeling all kinds of warm and fuzzy. I guess Obama could be worse. He could change his name to a Mohammedan nom de guerre and declare a "jihad" on our asses.

He has but, the religion is Communism.

69 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:10:50pm

re: #64 Dustyvet

And 900 Million is one hell of a lot of change, let's send it over in quarters...:)

/s

Maybe we could trade an item of similiar value. $450 million worth of missiles sent his way. If he survives, he'll get the other $450 million.

70 itellu3times  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:11:28pm

re: #14 6pat6

Exactly! Present him a laurel of peace - accompanied by a dozen lovely matching missiles.

... accompanied by a hardy GPS transponder.

71 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:11:37pm
72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:12:14pm

I thought the Obama's were going to get a pound/shelter dog.

What assholes!

73 Macker  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:12:40pm

re: #70 itellu3times

You mean no one's shoved such a chip up that guy's ass?

74 itellu3times  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:13:14pm

re: #29 notutopia

Hillary is attending the conference.

Wearing $900,000,000 in new jewelry.

75 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:13:28pm

re: #66 Dustyvet

We better get'em before they aren't worth anything.

76 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:14:38pm

re: #67 jcm

Obama Saturday day address.

GAH!

I find it rather odd that the man that wants to spend TRILLIONS is complaining about the Trillion dollar deficit he inherited.

And, he gives a speech about cutting the deficit the day after he added +$800 Billion on top of it.

Am I the only one noticing our beloved President is talking out of both sides of his mouth?

77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:14:46pm

re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Imagine how many dogs would have been taken from shelter's if the Obamas had done the right thing.

Now, they're worried that the Portuguese Water dogs will be over-bred.

GAH!

78 David Simon  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:15:00pm

re: #37 Racer X

Why do we reward poor behavior?

Aid to the "Palestinians" is the tip of the iceberg. Look at what the welfare state hath wrought.

79 itellu3times  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:15:21pm

re: #76 Desert Dog

Am I the only one noticing our beloved President is talking out of both sides of his mouth?

That's his mouth?

80 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:15:44pm

re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I thought the Obama's were going to get a pound/shelter dog.

What assholes!

Phhhttttttttt....that's only for us plebes.

81 kafir lover  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:15:54pm

re: #63 Iron Fist

At least we'd be clear about that for once -

I look at what the Democrqts are doing or trying to do, and consider what they would be doing if they wanted to see the West lose the war to the islamonazis, and can't see very much that they'd be doing differently. Their anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism are barely concealed by a domino mask of "diplomacy", by which they really mean America and Israel lose and the Mohammedan terrorists win.

The radical left holds the US in the same contempt as they have for Israel - and all of this falls under a global new world order quasi-communist ideology.

82 jaunte  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:16:06pm

re: #76 Desert Dog

I find it rather odd that the man that wants to spend TRILLIONS is complaining about the Trillion dollar deficit he inherited.

And, he gives a speech about cutting the deficit the day after he added +$800 Billion on top of it.

Am I the only one noticing our beloved President is talking out of both sides of his mouth?

Sanity check, stat.

83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:16:06pm

Why do we give money to those who hate us? It hasn't stopped them from hating us. So, why do we still give money to those who hate us?

84 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:17:12pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why do we give money to those who hate us? It hasn't stopped them from hating us. So, why do we still give money to those who hate us?

I vote for misguided naivete.....either that or just plain stupidity

85 jaunte  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:17:12pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"They'll hate us more if we don't."
--Foggy Bottom

86 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:17:15pm

re: #80 rightymouse

Maybe it's the kind that will do the leg-thing on his guests.

87 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:17:22pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why do we give money to those who hate us? It hasn't stopped them from hating us. So, why do we still give money to those who hate us?

Ah, the trillion dollar question... Because O can!

88 jcm  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:17:48pm

re: #76 Desert Dog

I find it rather odd that the man that wants to spend TRILLIONS is complaining about the Trillion dollar deficit he inherited.

And, he gives a speech about cutting the deficit the day after he added +$800 Billion on top of it.

Am I the only one noticing our beloved President is talking out of both sides of his mouth?

BHO doesn't know WTF he's talking about. $407 million as late as last Nov. It didn't hit he trillion mark until Porkzilla and BHO's budget.

89 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:18:17pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why do we give money to those who hate us? It hasn't stopped them from hating us. So, why do we still give money to those who hate us?

It's bloody patho-logical. Like trying to buy a friendship?

90 solomonpanting  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:18:30pm

re: #64 Dustyvet

And 900 Million is one hell of a lot of change, let's send it over in quarters...:)

/s

No, no, hombre, in dimes.
There's a scene in the movie Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid where, as Billy is hauled off to jail, the sheriff tells him that one day he's going to fill him with dimes. Billy escapes the cell, grabs a rifle and from the second floor sees and shoots the sheriff down in the street below. Billy yells out "Keep the change."

91 Killian Bundy  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:18:35pm

re: #60 Killian Bundy

Who's going to stop him?

/Obama's crack team of Hillary Clinton, Chas Freeman, and Samantha Power?

/hell, they probably flew him to Egypt

92 jcm  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:18:35pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why do we give money to those who hate us? It hasn't stopped them from hating us. So, why do we still give money to those who hate us?

Youtube Video
93 Cognito  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:19:02pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why do we give money to those who hate us? It hasn't stopped them from hating us. So, why do we still give money to those who hate us?

Things are about to get really interesting for the hollow governments we're propping up around the world.

It's going to suck for us. But it's going to suck worse for them.

94 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:19:11pm

re: #89 notutopia

It's bloody patho-logical. Like trying to buy a friendship?

Yeah, trying to buy the friendship f the bully who keeps beating the shit out of you for your lunch money.

95 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:19:32pm

re: #89 notutopia

I think they call giving money to people who hate you "alimony," but I'm not sure.

96 Racer X  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:19:57pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why do we give money to those who hate us? It hasn't stopped them from hating us. So, why do we still give money to those who hate us?

It makes the liberals feel better.

97 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:20:39pm

re: #94 CapeCoddah

Yeah, trying to buy the friendship f the bully who keeps beating the shit out of you for your lunch money.

Sado-masochistic....

98 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:20:51pm
99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:21:10pm

G'night friends. G'night John-Boy!

100 Macker  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:21:15pm

re: #81 kafir lover

At least we'd be clear about that for once -

The radical left holds the US in the same contempt as they have for Israel - and all of this falls under a global new world order quasi-communist ideology.

There, fixed that for ya!

101 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:21:16pm

re: #97 notutopia

Sado-masochistic....

That would be it exactly.

102 albusteve  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:21:27pm

re: #90 solomonpanting

No, no, hombre, in dimes.
There's a scene in the movie Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid where, as Billy is hauled off to jail, the sheriff tells him that one day he's going to fill him with dimes. Billy escapes the cell, grabs a rifle and from the second floor sees and shoots the sheriff down in the street below. Billy yells out "Keep the change."

ten thin dimes...heh

103 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:22:30pm

re: #101 CapeCoddah

That would be it exactly.

That's why I feel it's ludicrous and pathological.

104 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:22:55pm

Gee, ya think so?

105 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:23:13pm
106 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:23:24pm

re: #89 notutopia

It's bloody patho-logical. Like trying to buy a friendship?

I think it's even worse.

I think it is a naive belief that money really can cure any problem, and that all crime, violence, and hatred is rooted in poverty or lack of "opportunity". It is a sad, weak, gasping relic of "The White Man's Burden" of the 19th century.

It's midnight basketball for totalitarian dictators and socio-fascists.

107 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:23:33pm

re: #86 shiek al beif salami

Maybe it's the kind that will do the leg-thing on his guests.


Or the sniffing bit.

All dogs, regardless of breed, need people who understand them so they are happy. Otherwise, they can be neurotic, yippy, yappy, leg-humping and sniffing or downright mean.

108 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:23:47pm

re: #71 Iron Fist

I still want my bailout. I offered to take it in gold bullion and automatic weapons, but so far the Obama Administration hasn't gotten back to me. Maybe I should ought to blow some shit up, but the Obama Administration hasn't generously supplied me with explosives or the money to recruit suicide bombers.

I'm starting to believe the motherfucker doesn't like me. I'm crushed.

Former Secretary Reich explained it, there is a 3 part test.
1) Are you caucasian?
2) Are you more or less male?
3) Are you over 5' 2"?

If all your answers are "Yes" then proceed through the door marked with a red X.

109 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:24:40pm

re: #106 OldLineTexan

Realists know that peace can be achieved only through superior firepower.

110 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:24:41pm

re: #104 Desert Dog

Gee, ya think so?

The middle class? Are they kidding? The middle class wil cease to exist.

111 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:25:07pm

re: #107 rightymouse

Did I miss something? Do we have a First Dog?

112 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:25:13pm

re: #108 lifeofthemind

Former Secretary Reich explained it, there is a 3 part test.
1) Are you caucasian?
2) Are you more or less male?
3) Are you over 5' 2"?

If all your answers are "Yes" then proceed through the door marked with a red X.

Yeah, my husband, the white construction worker, who was explicitly targeted in that comment was soooo pleased to hear that.

113 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:25:33pm

re: #93 Cognito


I can't believe I just updinged you, but you deserved that. :)

114 solomonpanting  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:25:36pm

re: #102 albusteve

ten thin dimes...heh

But a dollar just isn't worth what it used to be.
;/-

115 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:25:44pm

re: #106 OldLineTexan

I think it's even worse.

I think it is a naive belief that money really can cure any problem, and that all crime, violence, and hatred is rooted in poverty or lack of "opportunity". It is a sad, weak, gasping relic of "The White Man's Burden" of the 19th century.

It's midnight basketball for totalitarian dictators and socio-fascists.

It doesn't work. Neither the misplaced guilt, nor the throwing money at the problems of others that hate the US.

116 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:26:33pm
117 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:26:40pm

re: #112 CapeCoddah

Yeah, my husband, the white construction worker, who was explicitly targeted in that comment was soooo pleased to hear that.

Should I expect a visit? Need time to ready the welcome wagon.

118 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:27:17pm

re: #116 Iron Fist

I don't think I'd go so far as to call Michelle "First Bitch"...

Hillary holds that title!

119 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:27:41pm

re: #116 Iron Fist

I don't think I'd go so far as to call Michelle "First Bitch"...

Thought that was Barry's role.

120 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:27:45pm

re: #111 ArmyWife

Did I miss something? Do we have a First Dog?

Apparently, they are going to acquire a Portuguese Water dog.

121 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:27:48pm

re: #116 Iron Fist

Your right. That would be rude. I suppose.

122 albusteve  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:27:53pm

re: #114 solomonpanting

But a dollar just isn't worth what it used to be.
;/-

it was no bargain for Bob the jailer...he was shredded

123 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:28:02pm

re: #109 shiek al beif salami

Realists know that peace can be achieved only through superior firepower.

Nothing worse than a government with my money and a perceived problem.

I need Al-Anon now that these Robin-Hoodish kleptocrats are in office. I'm enabling them with every paycheck!

124 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:28:07pm

re: #117 lifeofthemind

Should I expect a visit? Need time to ready the welcome wagon.

LOL. nah, he is anti-social.

125 Colonel Panik  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:28:23pm

re: #52 Iron Fist

You hit the nail on the head with that one. "Progressive" leftists fear guns in the hands of American patriots but thrill to the sight of ululating Islamic maniacs or psychotic third world communists waving their Kalashnikovs around.

126 kafir lover  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:28:40pm

re: #100 Macker

Just trying to be nuanced. . . like our leader ;-)

127 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:29:02pm

re: #95 shiek al beif salami

I think they call giving money to people who hate you "alimony," but I'm not sure.

You owe me a new keyboard. lol!

128 notutopia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:29:17pm

re: #120 rightymouse

Apparently, they are going to acquire a Portuguese Water dog.

I hope they have access to the national fountain...those dogs can smell water!

129 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:30:00pm

re: #122 albusteve

it was no bargain for Bob the jailer...he was shredded


I can't remember....did he let him have both barrels?

130 Colonel Panik  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:30:43pm

re: #111 ArmyWife

Did I miss something? Do we have a First Dog?

His name is Media.

Obama: Sit, Media, sit!
Obama: Rollover Media, rollover. Good boy!

131 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:31:07pm

re: #130 Colonel Panik

His name is Media.

Obama: Sit, Media, sit!
Obama: Rollover Media, rollover. Good boy!

Play dead, Media!

132 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:31:10pm

re: #120 rightymouse

I have a friend that breeds them. Small world. A rescue might be a bit hard to find - she gets serious bucks for her puppies.

133 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:32:31pm

re: #131 CapeCoddah

Get a 15% loan from Mexico, Media.

134 albusteve  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:32:49pm

re: #129 BignJames

I can't remember....did he let him have both barrels?

don't recall...only saw the movie once all those years ago...seems like twenty dimes would have vaporized old Bob

135 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:32:54pm

re: #133 shiek al beif salami

Get a 15% loan from Mexico, Media.

And stop humping my leg!

136 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:33:29pm

re: #133 shiek al beif salami

Get a 15% loan from Mexico, Media.

Have every illegal drag over a barrel of oil.

137 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:33:41pm

re: #128 notutopia

I hope they have access to the national fountain...those dogs can smell water!


I know very little about the breed. We tend to have Shepherd mixes.

138 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:33:50pm

re: #132 ArmyWife

I have a friend that breeds them. Small world. A rescue might be a bit hard to find - she gets serious bucks for her puppies.

Another way to conceal a bribe Chicago style? Whaddya mean he gave me a thousand dollars it was a dog for my kid? Next MIchelle adopts orphaned ermines.
Channeling Richard Nixon!

139 Catttt  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:34:15pm

re: #120 rightymouse

Apparently, they are going to acquire a Portuguese Water dog.

BUT - the news says they MAY end up getting a shelter Labradoodle. A Canadian shelter acquired a whole slew of Labradoodles in a puppy mill bust. We shall see.

Both are great breeds of dog. I think they should just get a poodle, but I'm a poodle fan.

140 Biff  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:34:31pm

re: #37 Racer X

Why do we reward poor behavior? Hamas are terrorists - they proved it on the day they took power in Gaza. The people of Gaza elected terrorists - let them wallow in it until they decide there is a better way.

The is not poor behavior anymore, only the opinion of those judging the behavior. This really sucks.

141 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:35:30pm

re: #139 Catttt

BUT - the news says they MAY end up getting a shelter Labradoodle. A Canadian shelter acquired a whole slew of Labradoodles in a puppy mill bust. We shall see.

Both are great breeds of dog. I think they should just get a poodle, but I'm a poodle fan.


In one of his more revealing human psycho-drama moments, BHO said "I want to get a Mutt like me."

142 Sheepdogess  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:36:10pm

re: #98 Iron Fist

That's true, but when did truth ever matter to a Democrat? He's still blaming Bush. If he serves two terms, they change the Constitution, and then he "serves" as President-for-life Obama, he'll still be blaming Bush on the 50th anniversary of his reign.

Being a liberal democart means never having to say that you're wrong or sorry.

What we need are more David Horowitz liberals.

143 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:36:22pm

re: #138 lifeofthemind

Another way to conceal a bribe Chicago style? Whaddya mean he gave me a thousand dollars it was a dog for my kid? Next MIchelle adopts orphaned ermines.
Channeling Richard Nixon!

I would personally have no issue with someone giving those kids a dog. Nothing wrong with that. It's this whole "rescue dog" thing that gets me. Of course you should consider a rescue dog. We have two rescue poodles in our home. But a rescue Portuguese Water Dog? That's just false piety to my ears.

144 swamprat  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:36:29pm

re: #140 Biff

The is not poor behavior anymore, only the opinion of those judging the behavior. This really sucks.

Not even close.


900 million dollar behavior. Not poor.

145 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:37:17pm

re: #132 ArmyWife

I have a friend that breeds them. Small world. A rescue might be a bit hard to find - she gets serious bucks for her puppies.

Makes for a good story for them, though. Pure-bred dogs are next to impossible to find at rescue centers, I agree. We can get beagles out in our area at the rescue center - they are hunting dogs and sometimes people abandon them when they move. I love beagles and beagle mixes as well as Shepherds.

146 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:37:40pm

re: #135 CapeCoddah

"Media, stop dragging your butt across the George Washington carpet."

We call it "sailing" when a dog does that; what do you call it?

147 Mardukhai  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:37:55pm

Actually, he wasn't really there. Ask Middle East Envoy George Mitchell.

148 swamprat  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:38:36pm

President Bush, what mistakes did you make?

Letting the the media control my press conferences, and lie to the public.

149 Pacificlady  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:38:44pm

I was just reading that the Arab counties haven't delivered on the billion dollars they had pledged to rebuild Gaza. Even they aren't as stupid as President Obama. Where do I get my don't blame me I voted for the other guy bumper sticker?

150 David Simon  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:39:12pm

re: #104 Desert Dog

Gee, ya think so?

From your link:

The $2 trillion of federal spending President Barack Obama proposed to stimulate the economy, stabilize housing markets, curb financial excesses and remake the health care system packs a political punch too.

Not a hint of irony - at least not that my drunken brain can detect.

That's just the first paragraph. What follows is a Mount Everest-sized load of crap that reads as if it had been written by none other than an Obama staffer.

151 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:39:17pm

re: #120 rightymouse


Apparently, they are going to acquire a Portuguese Water dog.

Typical yuppie dog.

152 brookly red  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:39:37pm

re: #146 shiek al beif salami

"Media, stop dragging your butt across the George Washington carpet."

We call it "sailing" when a dog does that; what do you call it?

worms

153 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:39:55pm

re: #145 rightymouse

Beagles also have bad cases of wondering paws! My German Shepherd is a rescue. My Chihuahuas rescued me!

154 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:40:07pm

re: #139 Catttt

BUT - the news says they MAY end up getting a shelter Labradoodle. A Canadian shelter acquired a whole slew of Labradoodles in a puppy mill bust. We shall see.

Both are great breeds of dog. I think they should just get a poodle, but I'm a poodle fan.

I guess we'll find out soon enough. :)

Meanwhile, the press is focused on Michelle's muscled arms.

155 albusteve  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:40:35pm

re: #149 Pacificlady

I was just reading that the Arab counties haven't delivered on the billion dollars they had pledged to rebuild Gaza. Even they aren't as stupid as President Obama. Where do I get my don't blame me I voted for the other guy bumper sticker?

if BO posted here he would instantly be exposed as a troll and punished accorodingly

156 solomonpanting  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:40:50pm

re: #129 BignJames

re: #134 albusteve

At 2:43, here's a clue.

157 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:40:59pm

re: #151 Noam Sayin'

Typical yuppie dog.


Not familiar with the breed at all.

158 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:41:22pm

re: #143 OldLineTexan

I would personally have no issue with someone giving those kids a dog. Nothing wrong with that. It's this whole "rescue dog" thing that gets me. Of course you should consider a rescue dog. We have two rescue poodles in our home. But a rescue Portuguese Water Dog? That's just false piety to my ears.

My hairy friend is a rescue. There are rescue groups for breeds. For example Greyhound rescue, what happens to racing dogs after they stop is disgusting. I also have heard of a Bichon rescue group. Dogs end up needing homes, even dogs with papers. Personally I like that my shedding machine (a rare breed the Belgian Shedder) has no papers. In fact I expect it to get citizenship and the vote in a bill now working its way through Congress.

159 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:41:35pm

re: #146 shiek al beif salami

"Media, stop dragging your butt across the George Washington carpet."

We call it "sailing" when a dog does that; what do you call it?

We call it not having to scratch her butt ourselves. Hubby bought her her own scratching rug and taught her to do it. It was pretty funny to watch him. She used to demand we scratch her butt for her, we love her to death, but there are limits, very few, but that is one of them.

160 Racer X  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:43:23pm

The 3 Stooges.

Bo, Blinky, and Harry

161 jaunte  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:43:25pm

re: #157 rightymouse

Ted Kennedy has two. That just seems wrong, somehow.

MSNBC Video
162 Mardukhai  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:43:29pm

Am I wrong, or are Lizards, as a group, no longer interested in Islamism, Jihad, and the Middle East?

As i look over this thread, the only one on these subjects today, I get the impression that people are more interested in dogs.

163 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:43:33pm

re: #153 ArmyWife

Beagles also have bad cases of wondering paws! My German Shepherd is a rescue. My Chihuahuas rescued me!


Wondering paws? lol! That's a new one on me. Did you mean that they wander a lot?

My beagle/basset was my angel. Miss him to this day.

164 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:43:56pm

re: #159 CapeCoddah

You can get one of those little Ryobi disk grinders from Hope Depot for about thirty bucks. You'll probably need to use it just once. Keep the box and you can return the grinder for in-store credit.

165 Sheepdogess  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:44:09pm

re: #111 ArmyWife

Did I miss something? Do we have a First Dog?

Apparently, they are going to acquire a Portuguese Water dog.

re: #139 Catttt

BUT - the news says they MAY end up getting a shelter Labradoodle. A Canadian shelter acquired a whole slew of Labradoodles in a puppy mill bust. We shall see.

Both are great breeds of dog. I think they should just get a poodle, but I'm a poodle fan.

I don't think they will get a dog. Gut feeling.

166 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:44:10pm

re: #158 lifeofthemind

My hairy friend is a rescue. There are rescue groups for breeds. For example Greyhound rescue, what happens to racing dogs after they stop is disgusting. I also have heard of a Bichon rescue group. Dogs end up needing homes, even dogs with papers. Personally I like that my shedding machine (a rare breed the Belgian Shedder) has no papers. In fact I expect it to get citizenship and the vote in a bill now working its way through Congress.

I've had Texas Fencejumpers and All-Americans as a kid, in addition to Norwegian Elkhounds, miniature dachshunds, and a Golden Retriever as an adult. Also briefly played host to a Dalmatian, but she was not mine. The current crew is a rat terrier and the two aformentioned rescue poodles.

167 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:44:32pm

re: #156 solomonpanting

re: #134 albusteve

At 2:43, here's a clue.


16 dimes...."keep the change, Bob"

168 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:44:52pm

re: #158 lifeofthemind

Is yours a Belgian Malinois? They all have ADD! But I love their faces - like refined GSDs.

169 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:45:07pm

re: #164 shiek al beif salami

You can get one of those little Ryobi disk grinders from Hope Depot for about thirty bucks. You'll probably need to use it just once. Keep the box and you can return the grinder for in-store credit.

I'm thinking that is just a wee bit overkill.

170 albusteve  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:45:17pm

re: #156 solomonpanting

re: #134 albusteve

At 2:43, here's a clue.

cept he shot Bill from a window...great movie tho...thanks for that

171 Mardukhai  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:45:21pm

I was right. Sigh...

Think I'll just mosey on to another site.

: - ((

172 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:45:26pm

re: #163 rightymouse

Yes - they smell a smell, and off they go!

173 Sheepdogess  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:46:12pm

re: #162 Mardukhai

Dogs are unclean.

174 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:46:13pm

re: #161 jaunte

Ted Kennedy has two. That just seems wrong, somehow.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

If anyone needs companions who can take care of THEMSELVES in water, it's Ted.

175 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:46:53pm

I'm looking at my finances and unless something happens soon I'm going to have to get a part time job. Serious bummer.

176 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:46:57pm

re: #162 Mardukhai

Am I wrong, or are Lizards, as a group, no longer interested in Islamism, Jihad, and the Middle East?

As i look over this thread, the only one on these subjects today, I get the impression that people are more interested in dogs.

Frankly, I've lost interest because of the infiltration of bigots in the counter-jihad movement. It's not that I don't find it a serious issue, it's just my need to discuss it has waned.

177 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:47:06pm

re: #166 OldLineTexan

and the two aformentioned rescue poodles.

You're French, and gay. I knew it.

178 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:47:28pm

re: #173 Sheepdogess

Dogs are unclean.

Does that mean my Mastiff should NOT be sharing my pillow? Talk about whiskers tickling.

179 albusteve  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:47:59pm

re: #167 BignJames

16 dimes...."keep the change, Bob"

sadly I think the 'thin dimes' is a Hollywood device...nothing I have read or the Jail museum says anything about the dimes

180 Mardukhai  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:48:15pm

I have nothing against dogs, just don't own one. But I've spent a lot of time at LGF for a reason.

It wasn't dog breeds or anything else that seems to interest the latest generation of Lizards.

181 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:48:26pm

re: #159 CapeCoddah

We call it not having to scratch her butt ourselves. Hubby bought her her own scratching rug and taught her to do it. It was pretty funny to watch him. She used to demand we scratch her butt for her, we love her to death, but there are limits, very few, but that is one of them.

Often when a dog "scoots" it is because the scent gland is getting impacted. Like all carnivores canids have scent glands just inside the rectum. While they do not spray like a skunk does they do use it to mark their droppings. Dogs are fascinated by the secret messages they can smell. The big secret is they all translate "I was here, Spanky." If the stool is soft, it can happen for a million reasons and some are just prone to it, then the gland gets clogged and needs to be emptied. Phew.

182 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:48:53pm

re: #162 Mardukhai

It's a slow news day. What aspect of the RoP would you like to discuss?

183 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:48:59pm

re: #162 Mardukhai

Am I wrong, or are Lizards, as a group, no longer interested in Islamism, Jihad, and the Middle East?

As i look over this thread, the only one on these subjects today, I get the impression that people are more interested in dogs.

That might have something to do with the fact that it's Saturday night, and people want to relax a little.

184 David Simon  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:49:02pm

re: #175 Killgore Trout

I'm looking at my finances and unless something happens soon I'm going to have to get a part time job. Serious bummer.

Something's going to happen soon - all the more reason why you'll need a part-time job.

185 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:49:12pm

Itre: #158 lifeofthemind

I also have heard of a Bichon rescue group. Dogs end up needing homes, even dogs with papers. Personally I like that my shedding machine (a rare breed the Belgian Shedder) has no papers.



The shelter claimed our second pound pup (Watson the Wonder Dog) was a Swiss Mountain Dog. I'd never heard of them, googled it and his picture came up. I think he's a purebred mongrel.

186 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:49:26pm

re: #177 Occasional Reader

You're French, and gay. I knew it.

Now you have to tell Kosh's Shadow the same thing.

/rotflmao, btw

187 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:49:43pm

re: #161 jaunte

Ted Kennedy has two. That just seems wrong, somehow.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]


The Kennedys aren't known for actually taking care of their dogs/pets. Ethel had poodles that left droppings on the staircases at Hickory Hill, so when you came downstairs in the morning, you had to be careful. She also had these enormous black dogs that liked to leave steaming piles in the guest bathroom on the ground floor. When I was the governess there, I had no clue who was actually in charge of taking the poor things outside.

188 Catttt  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:49:45pm

re: #165 Sheepdogess

I don't think they will get a dog. Gut feeling.

Well, here is a standard poodle (won this year for non-sporting dogs at Westminster dog show). Ch. Randenn Tristar Affirmation - "Yes" to her friends.

189 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:49:53pm

re: #180 Mardukhai

I have nothing against dogs, just don't own one. But I've spent a lot of time at LGF for a reason.

It wasn't dog breeds or anything else that seems to interest the latest generation of Lizards.

Well, Mardukhai, here's your big chance to post something witty and interesting that is non-dog related. We are all awaiting your guidance with baited breath.

190 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:49:56pm

re: #175 Killgore Trout

Have you sent any of your bills to the One yet? Just tell him that you are too big to let fail.

191 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:49:57pm

re: #180 Mardukhai

I have nothing against dogs, just don't own one. But I've spent a lot of time at LGF for a reason.

It wasn't dog breeds or anything else that seems to interest the latest generation of Lizards.

sometimes we talk abut dogs, sometimes guns, Boobs are a favorite of the guys and a pun thread will pop up every now and then. We discuss serious issues all the time. All work and no play...

192 David Simon  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:50:23pm

re: #180 Mardukhai

I have nothing against dogs, just don't own one. But I've spent a lot of time at LGF for a reason.

It wasn't dog breeds or anything else that seems to interest the latest generation of Lizards.

Lizards are a multi-faceted group. Bring something to discuss, and you'll get a discussion.

193 swamprat  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:50:33pm

re: #179 albusteve

sadly I think the 'thin dimes' is a Hollywood device...nothing I have read or the Jail museum says anything about the dimes

Read some articles postulating that he threatened him with load of dimes, but that would be like a weeks wages. Got shot for his efforts.

194 jcm  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:50:41pm

re: #171 Mardukhai

I was right. Sigh...

Think I'll just mosey on to another site.

: - ((

It's Saturday night. Chill.

195 Timbre  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:50:42pm

Probably said already, but let's hope for a car swarm in 3, 2, 1...

196 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:50:52pm

re: #181 lifeofthemind

I'm still thinking Ryobi grinder.

197 Catttt  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:51:05pm

re: #180 Mardukhai

I have nothing against dogs, just don't own one. But I've spent a lot of time at LGF for a reason.

It wasn't dog breeds or anything else that seems to interest the latest generation of Lizards.

So, let's talk cats.

Cats are keen.
Cats are great.
Cats are clean -
They lick your plate.

198 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:51:12pm

re: #180 Mardukhai

I have nothing against dogs, just don't own one. But I've spent a lot of time at LGF for a reason.

It wasn't dog breeds or anything else that seems to interest the latest generation of Lizards.

So post away. Someone will engage you.

That's the secret of having the conversation YOU want to have. By participating.

199 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:51:14pm

re: #184 David Simon

Yeah, this is going to take a while. I just hate to cut back on my own business for some crappy part time job for a low hourly wage. These things have a way of taking over and I don't want to fold up my shop.

200 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:51:16pm

re: #171 Mardukhai

Buh-bye, then.

201 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:52:05pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

Yeah, this is going to take a while. I just hate to cut back on my own business for some crappy part time job for a low hourly wage. These things have a way of taking over and I don't want to fold up my shop.

Your own business is that of luthier, correct?

202 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:52:09pm

re: #162 Mardukhai

Am I wrong, or are Lizards, as a group, no longer interested in Islamism, Jihad, and the Middle East?

As i look over this thread, the only one on these subjects today, I get the impression that people are more interested in dogs.


Sure we're still interested in the Mideast. But what are we going to say? The US is sending more money down the rathole to Gaza. The Iranians are getting the bomb. Kerry has been to Damascus, Hillary is probably on the way. It all sucks.
What's to say?

203 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:52:15pm

re: #180 Mardukhai

I have nothing against dogs, just don't own one. But I've spent a lot of time at LGF for a reason.

It wasn't dog breeds or anything else that seems to interest the latest generation of Lizards.

Can't speak for others but I care deeply about the thread topic and feel that a little human interest emphasizes the difference between the culture of love and life and that of hate and death.

204 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:53:16pm

re: #187 rightymouse

The Kennedys aren't known for actually taking care of their dogs/pets. Ethel had poodles that left droppings on the staircases at Hickory Hill, so when you came downstairs in the morning, you had to be careful. She also had these enormous black dogs that liked to leave steaming piles in the guest bathroom on the ground floor. When I was the governess there, I had no clue who was actually in charge of taking the poor things outside.

Like their owners, the dogs were just leaving crap all over the place.

205 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:53:18pm

re: #180 Mardukhai

If you send me your address, I'll ship you one of mine via UPS on Monday. I'll even send twenty dollars with him for a bag of WalMart dog food.

206 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:53:26pm

re: #172 ArmyWife

Yes - they smell a smell, and off they go!


Yes, they do that. Hopefully, they beat a path home. lol!

We were on the front porch one day and watched some neighbor beagles tear across our yard into the woods, barking their brains out, going after 'who knows what'. Next thing we know, we see them sauntering back home. Loved it.

207 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:53:30pm

re: #189 Desert Dog

Well, Mardukhai, here's your big chance to post something witty and interesting that is non-dog related. We are all awaiting your guidance with baited breath.

About your bated breath friend, been meaning to talk to you.

208 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:53:45pm

re: #178 CapeCoddah

Does that mean my Mastiff should NOT be sharing my pillow? Talk about whiskers tickling.


English Mastiff? How big?

209 Catttt  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:53:45pm

re: #194 jcm

It's Saturday night. Chill.

Youtube Video
210 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:53:49pm

re: #201 Occasional Reader

Yeah, sales are slow. I'm getting ready to ship out a cello I just finished but money is tight. I can either pay my bills of ship out a cello this month. I can't afford to do both.

211 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:54:20pm

{Killgore}

212 Mardukhai  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:54:31pm

#183 Occasional Reader --

From today's Washington Post:

Most of President Obama's "missteps" to date have been Washington peccadilloes of the "let's find something to complain about" sort. But Obama has made one major mistake that has attracted little public attention: his appointment of Charles Freeman as chairman of the National Intelligence Council. Freeman was attacked by pro-Israel activists, but the contretemps over Freeman's view of Israel misses the broader problem, which is that he's an ideological fanatic...

As far as realists are concerned, there's no way to think about the way governments act except as the pursuit of self-interest. Realism has some useful insights. For instance, realists accurately predicted that Iraqis would respond to a U.S. invasion with less than unadulterated joy.

But realists are the mirror image of neoconservatives in that they are completely blind to the moral dimensions of international politics. Realists scoffed at Bill Clinton's interventions in Bosnia and Kosovo, which halted mass slaughter. Realists tend not to abide the American alliance with Israel, which rests on shared values with a fellow imperfect democracy rather than on a cold analysis of America's interests.

Taken to extremes, realism's blindness to morality can lead it wildly astray. Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer, both staunch realists, wrote "The Israel Lobby," a hyperbolic attack on Zionist political influence. The central error of their thesis was that, since America's alliance with Israel does not advance American interests, it could be explained only by sinister lobbying influence. They seemed unable to grasp even the possibility that Americans, rightly or wrongly, have an affinity for a fellow democracy surrounded by hostile dictatorships. Consider, perhaps, if eunuchs tried to explain the way teenage boys act around girls.

213 jaunte  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:55:00pm

re: #187 rightymouse

There's a deep division between people who keep animals around as ornaments, and people who have pets as part of their family. A lot of the former are politicians. I'm sorry to see that the political theater is still working.

214 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:55:00pm

re: #211 Sharmuta

Thanks.

215 Sheepdogess  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:55:02pm

re: #178 CapeCoddah

He is man's best friend, and will keep you warm when Obama bankrupts the coal industry.

216 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:55:09pm

re: #204 CapeCoddah

Like their owners, the dogs were just leaving crap all over the place.


You got that straight. Horrible people they are.

217 swamprat  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:55:43pm

portuguese water dogs
ears like hamburger patties
webbed feet

218 The Shadow Do  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:55:45pm

re: #175 Killgore Trout

I'm looking at my finances and unless something happens soon I'm going to have to get a part time job. Serious bummer.

No way. I have it on good authority that Obama will be sending you $17 a week (pre_tax). You will be ok. No need sweating the small stuff.

219 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:55:51pm

re: #214 Killgore Trout

You're welcome, Big Guy.

220 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:56:11pm

re: #207 lifeofthemind

About your bated breath friend, been meaning to talk to you.

I need a serts for my baited breath

221 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:56:14pm

re: #201 Occasional Reader

Your own business is that of luthier, correct?

Religion again?
/(for those dim enough to think I need to)

222 Mardukhai  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:56:18pm

re: #198 OldLineTexan

I've been trying, here and in other threads. And now it's back to work...

223 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:56:21pm

re: #208 BignJames

English Mastiff? How big?

Bull, Click on mu avatar.

224 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:56:27pm

re: #197 Catttt

So, let's talk cats.

Cats are keen.
Cats are great.
Cats are clean -
They lick your plate.


Gato tacos. Mmmm.

225 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:56:28pm

re: #210 Killgore Trout

Yeah, sales are slow. I'm getting ready to ship out a cello I just finished but money is tight. I can either pay my bills of ship out a cello this month. I can't afford to do both.

I imagine it's some pretty big $ to ship something large, relatively fragile, and expensive. I do a lot of work with packaging, but it's computers, not art.

226 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:56:34pm

re: #180 Mardukhai

I have nothing against dogs, just don't own one. But I've spent a lot of time at LGF for a reason.

It wasn't dog breeds or anything else that seems to interest the latest generation of Lizards.

I really don't like dogs.

I want to get a cat, but my husband just doesn't want any pets.

227 esch  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:56:57pm

re: #218 The Shadow Do

No way. I have it on good authority that Obama will be sending you $17 a week (pre_tax). You will be ok. No need sweating the small stuff.

Just put it in a piggy bank for when you have to pay it back.

228 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:57:02pm

re: #162 Mardukhai

Am I wrong, or are Lizards, as a group, no longer interested in Islamism, Jihad, and the Middle East?

As i look over this thread, the only one on these subjects today, I get the impression that people are more interested in dogs.

We are spent. After years and years of crazy mid-east re-runs we have nothing left to say but - *spit*
and nothing surprises us anymore.

229 The Shadow Do  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:57:20pm

I'm pretty sure that shovel ready road projects will bail Killgore out. Pronto.

230 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:57:20pm

re: #215 Sheepdogess

He is man's best friend, and will keep you warm when Obama bankrupts the coal industry.

Yes, but I miss waking to my HUSBANDS face in the morning.

231 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:57:35pm

re: #226 Alouette

I really don't like dogs.

I want to get a cat, but my husband just doesn't want any pets.

One dog, three cats, one hamster and 10 fish here.

232 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:57:56pm

re: #210 Killgore Trout

Yeah, sales are slow. I'm getting ready to ship out a cello I just finished but money is tight. I can either pay my bills of ship out a cello this month. I can't afford to do both.

You make Cellos? - that is so cool.

233 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:58:06pm

re: #231 Desert Dog

One dog, three cats, one hamster and 10 fish here.

How many husbands?

234 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:58:23pm

re: #227 esch

Just put it in a piggy bank for when you have to pay it back.

True that.

235 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:58:35pm

re: #231 Desert Dog

You have 3 cats and you STILL have a hamster and 10 fish?

236 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:58:44pm

re: #223 CapeCoddah

Cool....had an English for 12 years.....gentle souls.

237 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:58:53pm

re: #233 Alouette

How many husbands?

No husbands, just one wife. She only has one husband (that I know of)

238 David Simon  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:58:54pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

Yeah, this is going to take a while. I just hate to cut back on my own business for some crappy part time job for a low hourly wage. These things have a way of taking over and I don't want to fold up my shop.

Unlike the tax cuts, there are no sunset provisions in Obama's spending plans. As we've seen time and again, once an "entitlement" becomes law, there's very little chance of getting rid of it.

Obama's advisers are playing a dangerous game. There's no way to tax the income of the "rich" enough to pay for his quixotic plans. What to do? A national sales tax? Or will he push for a constitutional amendment to federally tax real estate and/or personal property?

239 albusteve  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:59:01pm

re: #193 swamprat

Read some articles postulating that he threatened him with load of dimes, but that would be like a weeks wages. Got shot for his efforts.

right..I have as well...maybe a reference to Billy's worthless life?....nobody knows...what is known is that Bob was shot dead from a second story corner window as he came bask from the outhouse...Billy killed him right there in the street...he ate some lunch and eventually wandered away on a borrowed horse...which he returned later....he is still regarded as a hero over there

240 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:59:05pm

re: #216 rightymouse

You got that straight. Horrible people they are.

Know most of them and horrible people they are. The only one I like is Ted's ex-wife. Sweet lady. Troubled, but, does one really need to ask why?

241 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:59:13pm

re: #222 Mardukhai

I've been trying, here and in other threads. And now it's back to work...

Well, some days you eat the bear ...

242 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:59:33pm

re: #235 ConservatismNow!

Must be Code Pink cats.

243 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:59:47pm

re: #240 CapeCoddah

Know most of them and horrible people they are. The only one I like is Ted's ex-wife. Sweet lady. Troubled, but, does one really need to ask why?

Inordinate fear of bridges?

244 esch  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:00:05pm

re: #234 OldLineTexan

True that.

My guess is they're trying to put a few million fools deep in the hole tax-wise then absolutely HAMMER them with penalties and interest. Basically free money!

245 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:00:15pm

All dogs are wolves and weigh 110 lbs, just ask them.
Newfies or Yorkies they all believe it.
UNfortunately the big ones die to young.

246 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:00:40pm

re: #233 Alouette

How many husbands?

MY wife has one too many, most days.

247 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:00:52pm

re: #212 Mardukhai

Most of President Obama's "missteps" to date have been Washington peccadilloes of the "let's find something to complain about" sort.

Right, like doubling the deficit in a mere four weeks...

Anyway, at least even WaPo is pissed off about "Chas". Semi flying pig.

248 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:00:52pm

re: #212 Mardukhai

I was almost surprised that WaPo printed that, but it made no mention of Obama's most recent and biggest mistake yet: the porkulus package. This is the WaPo attempted to be moderate.

249 albusteve  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:01:20pm

I can not make a cello...few people can I'd guess

250 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:01:22pm

re: #232 FrogMarch

I restore old ones.

251 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:01:24pm

re: #236 BignJames

Cool....had an English for 12 years.....gentle souls.

Big huge cuddly cowards.

252 Catttt  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:01:24pm

re: #210 Killgore Trout

Yeah, sales are slow. I'm getting ready to ship out a cello I just finished but money is tight. I can either pay my bills of ship out a cello this month. I can't afford to do both.

Damn. Wish I were rich - I'd buy all the cellos you can send and endow the symphony.re: #224 Jim in Virginia

Hisssssssssss.

253 blangwort  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:01:25pm

Upon his next visit, I propose a 21 gun salute to Abu Marzouk...

aimed at him.

254 jaunte  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:01:31pm

Here's some middle east news. Prince Walid bin Talal's stake in Citigroup has come down to $1.50 a share (from $55 in 2006), and his Kingdom Holdings has reported a $7.9 billion loss.
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

255 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:01:58pm

re: #237 Desert Dog

No husbands, just one wife. She only has one husband (that I know of)

My husband is afraid that if I get a cat, I won't pay attention to him any more.

256 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:02:13pm

re: #254 jaunte

Here's some middle east news. Prince Walid bin Talal's stake in Citigroup has come down to $1.50 a share (from $55 in 2006), and his Kingdom Holdings has reported a $7.9 billion loss.
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

I feel his pain......NOT

257 Catttt  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:02:18pm

re: #252 Catttt

Damn. Wish I were rich - I'd buy all the cellos you can send and endow the symphony.re: #224 Jim in Virginia

Hisssssssssss.

Not hissing at you, Killgore. My Foxfire did that crash thing it does, and I messed up. Anyway.

258 solomonpanting  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:02:24pm

re: #249 albusteve

I can not make a cello...few people can I'd guess

C'mon, man, there's always room for cello.

259 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:02:32pm

re: #254 jaunte

Here's some middle east news. Prince Walid bin Talal's stake in Citigroup has come down to $1.50 a share (from $55 in 2006), and his Kingdom Holdings has reported a $7.9 billion loss.
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

I saw that earlier. One of the few bright spots of the bank crisis.

260 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:03:12pm

re: #238 David Simon

I make a living off rich people. Cellos ain't cheap and Obama putting the squeeze on rich people is doing me no favors.

261 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:03:12pm

re: #243 OldLineTexan

Inordinate fear of bridges?

No doubt. Ted has not driven his own car in decades.

262 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:03:12pm

Good evening lizardim!

263 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:03:31pm

re: #251 CapeCoddah

Big huge cuddly cowards.


That's a good thing...at 175# she could do serious damage.

264 jaunte  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:03:44pm

re: #259 Occasional Reader

Maybe it's why O decided to take up the slack in the cash-to-Gaza program.

265 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:03:44pm

re: #247 Occasional Reader

"peccadilloes" is an interesting word for what Obama has done in his oh so short tenure. I would guess some aren't complaining about the impending tax hikes because they aren't "rich". Until they figure out holy paycheck, Batman! Obama says $70.000 IS rich!

For those of use who make more than this, we are already cringing. A lot.

266 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:03:56pm

re: #254 jaunte

Here's some middle east news. Prince Walid bin Talal's stake in Citigroup has come down to $1.50 a share (from $55 in 2006), and his Kingdom Holdings has reported a $7.9 billion loss.
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

Hate it for him...just like the rest of us, you play with the bull, you are gonna eventually get the horns...

/some more than others ;-P

267 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:04:01pm

re: #213 jaunte

There's a deep division between people who keep animals around as ornaments, and people who have pets as part of their family. A lot of the former are politicians. I'm sorry to see that the political theater is still working.


I think it's unfair to animals to keep them around as ornaments. They are happiest when they are part of the family. Our cats and dogs are allowed on the furniture and the beds. It's a happy brood - well, the cats may argue about that at times.

268 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:04:14pm

re: #260 Killgore Trout

Killgore, what's the average price of a 3/4 size double bass-just approximately, student quality, not professional.

269 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:04:18pm

re: #255 Alouette

My husband is afraid that if I get a cat, I won't pay attention to him any more.

Maybe the cat will adopt him. That is what happened at our house. The dog is "mine". He follows me around everywhere. I feed him and take him for walks. Out of the three cats, two of them prefer me over my wife and the third one is not friendly to anyone. She gets mad at me and calls me Dr. Doolittle.

270 albusteve  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:04:23pm

re: #258 solomonpanting

C'mon, man, there's always room for cello.

strawberry cello with bananas....hmmm

271 Sheepdogess  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:04:24pm

Lre: #210 Killgore Trout

You make cellos, very cool.
I have been watching KOLYA every day for the last two months. It's like a back rub. They don't make movies like that any more.

272 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:04:38pm

re: #254 jaunte

Sort of makes me feel better about what I've lost in stocks. Sort of.

273 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:04:47pm

re: #262 WriterMom

Good evening lizardim!

Joyva halvah!

/

274 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:05:11pm

re: #210 Killgore Trout

Yeah, sales are slow. I'm getting ready to ship out a cello I just finished but money is tight. I can either pay my bills of ship out a cello this month. I can't afford to do both.

I don't understand that. Isn't the buyer supposed to, er, pay you for the cello? If it's already finished, doesn't it make you money to ship it?

275 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:05:20pm

re: #261 CapeCoddah

No doubt. Ted has not driven his own car in decades.

My estimation of Ted just went UP. Smart move.

276 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:05:25pm

re: #250 Killgore Trout

I restore old ones.

I'll assume there aren't may folks who do that.

277 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:05:33pm

re: #254 jaunte

Here's some middle east news. Prince Walid bin Talal's stake in Citigroup has come down to $1.50 a share (from $55 in 2006), and his Kingdom Holdings has reported a $7.9 billion loss.
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

The same one that Rudy earned a place in heaven by tossing his cheque back at him. Also the same one with big interests in Apple Computer, Disney (meaning ABC) and Newscorp (meaning Fox), surprise.

278 esch  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:05:41pm

re: #265 ArmyWife

For me the defining moment was in the acceptance speech when he started talking about people in the audience sacrificing, and the camera panned around on them looking around like "Sacrifice? Me? I'm not rich!"

Fools.

279 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:05:46pm

re: #184 David Simon

BRO!

280 jaunte  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:05:47pm

re: #272 ArmyWife

We're all looking for a way to retire on schadenfreude.

281 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:06:23pm

re: #254 jaunte

Here's some middle east news. Prince Walid bin Talal's stake in Citigroup has come down to $1.50 a share (from $55 in 2006), and his Kingdom Holdings has reported a $7.9 billion loss.
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

The Dubai real estate boom bubble seems to be losing steam too.
All together now:
Awwwwwwwwwwwww.

282 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:06:49pm

re: #273 OldLineTexan

? Joyus halva? I don't get it-and I don't really like halva..blechy.

283 albusteve  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:06:51pm

re: #250 Killgore Trout

I restore old ones.

you might consider violas, violins and fiddles...no?

284 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:07:17pm

fly in- fly out - LOTR is on and I'm poopered tonight. nighty all! have a good one.

285 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:07:17pm

re: #268 WriterMom

The Chinese are making some good basses these days. I'll bet you could pick up a decent one for $3-4,000. That's pretty damn cheap for a bass.

286 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:07:19pm

re: #260 Killgore Trout

I make a living off rich people. Cellos ain't cheap and Obama putting the squeeze on rich people is doing me no favors.

That's what liberals don't understand.

287 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:07:22pm

re: #265 ArmyWife

"peccadilloes" is an interesting word for what Obama has done in his oh so short tenure. I would guess some aren't complaining about the impending tax hikes because they aren't "rich". Until they figure out holy paycheck, Batman! Obama says $70.000 IS rich!

For those of use who make more than this, we are already cringing. A lot.

Yeah, turns out I'm "rich", too, isn't it great?

///

288 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:07:37pm

re: #263 BignJames

That's a good thing...at 175# she could do serious damage.

Actually, our boy, Finnbar is only about 120#. Runt of the litter. Our cattle dog, Chansey is a tub. Steals whatever she can find that is edible.

289 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:08:03pm

re: #281 Jim in Virginia

Be careful - they might threaten to send Michael Jackson back unless we pay them a big ransom.

290 jaunte  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:08:15pm

re: #277 lifeofthemind

The same one that Rudy earned a place in heaven by tossing his cheque back at him.

Can I get a RUDY!

291 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:08:26pm

re: #275 OldLineTexan

My estimation of Ted just went UP. Smart move.

Only because he was perpetually drunk.

292 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:08:30pm

re: #287 Occasional Reader

Yeah, turns out I'm "rich", too, isn't it great?

///

congratulations, now hand over your money so others "below you" can succeed.

293 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:08:33pm

re: #274 Occasional Reader

Because the cello hasn't sold yet. I buy old cellos at auction, fix them up, then send them to shops who sell them for me.

294 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:08:34pm
295 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:08:36pm

re: #285 Killgore Trout

Thanks. I'm actually thinking of selling one (used to play).

296 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:08:39pm

So, I had lots of .45 ACP shootin' fun today.

297 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:08:45pm

re: #282 WriterMom

? Joyus halva? I don't get it-and I don't really like halva..blechy.

It was a line from a Lord of the Rings parody ... a greeting in the book ... let it pass ... ;)

298 esch  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:08:55pm

re: #286 MandyManners

That's what liberals don't understand.

One of many, if not most things.

299 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:09:30pm

re: #250 Killgore Trout

I restore old ones.

A few years ago one of the staff writers at the NYT wrote a pretty good book on how Steinway makes a piano. It gets harder and harder to get young people interested in learning the craftsmanship.

300 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:09:31pm

re: #287 Occasional Reader

Yeah, turns out I'm "rich", too, isn't it great?

///

Every day, I am getting closer to "rich".

/progress

301 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:09:35pm

re: #255 Alouette

My husband is afraid that if I get a cat, I won't pay attention to him any more.

solution is to get two cats - or really, two kittens.
They will entertain each other, and you too!

302 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:09:37pm

re: #285 Killgore Trout

The Chinese are making some good basses these days.

*$�*&*#!

Is there anything they aren't making?!

303 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:09:57pm

re: #283 albusteve

I have some violins but they are harder for me to sell. Every shop has hundreds of violins but only a few cellos.

304 brookly red  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:10:00pm

re: #286 MandyManners

That's what liberals don't understand.

oh but they do, & they hate it.

305 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:10:08pm

re: #296 Occasional Reader

Cool. What the hell does that mean?

/puzzled in gun free land

306 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:10:08pm

re: #265 ArmyWife

"peccadilloes" is an interesting word for what Obama has done in his oh so short tenure. I would guess some aren't complaining about the impending tax hikes because they aren't "rich". Until they figure out holy paycheck, Batman! Obama says $70.000 IS rich!

For those of use who make more than this, we are already cringing. A lot.

I thought he said $250,000.00 for a married couple and $200,000.00 for a single person is rich. Has he defined it downward already?

307 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:10:09pm

re: #240 CapeCoddah

Know most of them and horrible people they are. The only one I like is Ted's ex-wife. Sweet lady. Troubled, but, does one really need to ask why?

No, one does not need to ask why Joan is so troubled. Started a long time ago. But then, she was married to Teddy and part of the clan that loves to torment anyone they don't think fits in.

308 David Simon  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:10:15pm

re: #212 Mardukhai

Chait, as well as his New Republic colleague Peretz, seem to continue to be troubled by Obama's associations. So why the hell did they vote for him?

309 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:10:22pm

re: #300 OldLineTexan

Every day, I am getting closer to "rich".

/progress

Of course, now you're incentivized NOT to get there.

Makes sense, don't it?

310 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:10:52pm

re: #296 Occasional Reader

So, I had lots of .45 ACP shootin' fun today.

So spill.

311 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:10:53pm

re: #302 Occasional Reader

They can't yet "make" human organs-but they have been really creative about recycling them.

312 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:11:20pm

re: #302 Occasional Reader

*$&#*&*#!

Is there anything they aren't making?!

Japanese.

313 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:11:23pm

re: #309 Occasional Reader

Actually, rich is getter closer to us all.

314 swamprat  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:11:28pm

re: #239 albusteve

....he is still regarded as a hero over there

Not by anyone I know of, except tourists.

Others did the same or worse, and never even went to trail. Some went, and were found not guilty...though they were.
The real story is that of a power struggle having to do with cattle being rustled in Mexico(or out of town) and sold locally. Scoundrels killing and fighting with scoundrels...And that is the truth.

315 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:12:14pm

re: #305 WriterMom

Cool. What the hell does that mean?

/puzzled in gun freegunless land

I fired many rounds from a .45 Automatic Colt Pistol-type handgun. (Think, "Colt .45", i.e. what Rick shot Major Strasser with at the end of Casablanca.)

316 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:12:30pm
317 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:12:32pm

Hey Honcos! It wasn't too bad today in Near Iowa. It started out very cold, then the sun got going and things became rather nice.

I've been avoiding watching any more CPAC. I, instead, watched a bit of Tavis Smiley's State of the Black Union. Which, was more thought provoking. Rev. Al Sharpton actually said something I agreed with. Strange, I felt that I could identify more with the panelists at that function than at CPAC.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

318 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:12:37pm

re: #309 Occasional Reader

Of course, now you're incentivized NOT to get there.

Makes sense, don't it?

My employer is assisting me in that endeavor. They're thoughtful like that. We all get pay cuts next month, and there were no (official) raises.

319 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:12:40pm

Sex and violins mellows into TV and cellos.

320 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:12:52pm

re: #310 OldLineTexan

So spill.

Huh?

321 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:13:15pm

re: #288 CapeCoddah

Actually, our boy, Finnbar is only about 120#. Runt of the litter. Our cattle dog, Chansey is a tub. Steals whatever she can find that is edible.

you are lucky in that. I always seem to have one dog that eats everything, edible or not, and needs surgery.

322 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:13:23pm

re: #316 ploome hineni

I ust got a Standard Poodle ..14 weeks old 21lbd

40inches streched out

How is the teething going?

323 bloodnok  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:13:28pm

re: #315 Occasional Reader

I fired many rounds from a .45 Automatic Colt Pistol-type handgun. (Think, "Colt .45", i.e. what Rick shot Major Strasser with at the end of Casablanca.)

I think of Billy Dee Williams and some of his friends.

324 Kenneth  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:13:29pm

re: #268 WriterMom

Killgore, what's the average price of a 3/4 size double bass-just approximately, student quality, not professional.

Is that a fish or a musical instrument?

325 nyc redneck  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:13:37pm

re: #316 ploome hineni

I ust got a Standard Poodle ..14 weeks old 21lbd

40inches streched out

what color?
i love standards.

326 jaunte  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:13:37pm

re: #306 MandyManners

I thought he said $250,000.00 for a married couple and $200,000.00 for a single person is rich. Has he defined it downward already?

The tax hike on everyone (no matter how rich or poor) is going to come through the Obama admin. energy policies which are guaranteed to make everything more expensive.

327 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:13:42pm

re: #307 rightymouse

No, one does not need to ask why Joan is so troubled. Started a long time ago. But then, she was married to Teddy and part of the clan that loves to torment anyone they don't think fits in.

What they did to her was criminal. She was a gorgeous, brilliant young woman.
I always felt terrible for what happened to her.

328 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:13:43pm
329 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:13:51pm

re: #258 solomonpanting

C'mon, man, there's always room for cello.

can you feign a cello?

330 jcm  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:14:03pm

re: #305 WriterMom

Cool. What the hell does that mean?

/puzzled in gun free land

Youtube Video
331 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:14:10pm

re: #316 ploome hineni

I ust got a Standard Poodle ..14 weeks old 21lbd

40inches streched out

Congrats. Ours are a miniature and a toy.

332 albusteve  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:14:23pm

re: #314 swamprat

Not by anyone I know of, except tourists.

Others did the same or worse, and never even went to trail. Some went, and were found not guilty...though they were.
The real story is that of a power struggle having to do with cattle being rustled in Mexico(or out of town) and sold locally. Scoundrels killing and fighting with scoundrels...And that is the truth.

people like him over there...he was a friendly guy...I don't live in Lincoln Co but I've hung out over there several times...there is no question he is still a folk hero over there...imo

333 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:14:31pm

re: #286 MandyManners

That's what liberals don't understand.

You give libs too much credit...I think many of them know exactly what their policies do and either support them because it "levels the playing field" (i.e. wealth redistribtuion and the march towards socialism) or because they just don't give a shit and want everyone to be as miserable as they are.

/wish I were kidding...

334 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:14:36pm

re: #294 Iron Fist


there isn't going to be much that we (or, for that matter, the Republicans) can do to impact the course that events will take for at least the next two years. .

We need to rebuild an oposition party that can win in two years and in four. And we need to propose policies as alternatives to what Obama and the Dems plan. We may not often win but we need to be vocal when they're wrong.

335 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:14:36pm

re: #315 Occasional Reader

That sounds so fun. I spent most of the day feeding the masses, tripping on blocks, cleaning snot of faces and trying to read a book.

336 brookly red  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:14:48pm

re: #313 shiek al beif salami

Actually, rich is getter closer to us all.

Actually, O's definition of rich is anybody NOT dependent on the government.

337 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:15:06pm

re: #328 Iron Fist

Any day you get to shoot is a good day. Well, as long as what you are shooting at doesn't shoot back :-)

That paper silhouette bastard made a sudden grab inside his jacket at one point, but I had him cold.

338 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:15:27pm

re: #320 Occasional Reader

Huh?

Give a description of the events.

/sheesh, no film noir background?

339 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:15:30pm

re: #307 rightymouse

No, one does not need to ask why Joan is so troubled. Started a long time ago. But then, she was married to Teddy and part of the clan that loves to torment anyone they don't think fits in.

How, on God's green earth did you work for Ethel and not poison her?
You get major points for restraint.

340 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:15:34pm

re: #327 CapeCoddah

What they did to her was criminal. She was a gorgeous, brilliant young woman.
I always felt terrible for what happened to her.

I wish she can help herself now but it looks like she cannot. Very sad.

341 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:15:38pm

re: #324 Kenneth

Don't start with me, young man!

342 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:16:13pm

re: #335 WriterMom

That sounds so fun. I spent most of the day feeding the masses, tripping on blocks, cleaning snot of faces and trying to read a book.

I wondered who took care of Congress on weekends.

343 Kenneth  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:16:15pm

re: #341 WriterMom

Don't start with me, young man!

Flattery will get you anything.

344 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:16:21pm

re: #287 Occasional Reader

345 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:16:27pm

re: #339 CapeCoddah

How, on God's green earth did you work for Ethel and not poison her?
You get major points for restraint.

I was young and foolish?

346 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:16:28pm

re: #300 OldLineTexan

Every day, I am getting closer to "rich".

/progress


I still feel like George Bailey- the richest man in Bedford Falls. Obama can't tax that wealth.

347 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:16:48pm

re: #321 ggt

you are lucky in that. I always seem to have one dog that eats everything, edible or not, and needs surgery.

That just sucks. Finnbar liked rocks when he was a pup, but, always pooped them out. We were very lucky.

348 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:16:57pm

re: #287 Occasional Reader

Yeah, turns out I'm "rich", too, isn't it great?

///

It might be considered rich, until you actually make that much and realize that the government in all it's various forms gets about 50% of it and then you realize what the Republican's have been saying all along is right.

349 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:17:19pm

re: #342 OldLineTexan

HAHAHAH. I also wiped bums. And that Biden-well...nevermind.

350 Kenneth  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:17:27pm

re: #346 Jim in Virginia

I still feel like George Bailey- the richest man in Bedford Falls. Obama can't tax that wealth.

Obama just sold Bedford Falls to the Chinese.

351 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:17:38pm

re: #346 Jim in Virginia

I still feel like George Bailey- the richest man in Bedford Falls. Obama can't tax that wealth.


Not yet.

352 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:17:43pm
353 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:17:49pm

re: #343 Kenneth

Heh.

354 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:17:51pm

re: #316 ploome hineni

I ust got a Standard Poodle ..14 weeks old 21lbd

40inches streched out


They are great dogs. We have 3, ranging (full grown) from 53-63 lbs. They are big for standard poodles.

Make sure to train him (her?) well because they will try to run the house; they think they're smart. They are, for dogs.

But they are very protective, and very lovable.
Fierce lap dogs.

355 jcm  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:18:01pm

re: #335 WriterMom

That sounds so fun. I spent most of the day feeding the masses, tripping on blocks, cleaning snot of faces and trying to read a book.

Sounds a lot like my day. 3 with 101° fevers, coughs and runny noses. Fortunately it slowed 'em down a bit.

356 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:18:06pm

re: #346 Jim in Virginia

I still feel like George Bailey- the richest man in Bedford Falls. Obama can't tax that wealth.

Don't tempt him. After he's done grabbing you by the ankles and shaking all the loose change out, he is going to tax your soul, your karma, your aura and your mood

357 The Shadow Do  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:18:08pm

re: #260 Killgore Trout

I make a living off rich people. Cellos ain't cheap and Obama putting the squeeze on rich people is doing me no favors.

Truth is, Killgore, we all make a living off rich people. No matter what business one is in. When the wealthy are not investing/spending it hurts all the way down. I know, my business is getting hammered too just like almost everyone else's. The 'social justice' of the Obama ones is a sure prescription for wide spread pain and poverty. If you are a lib you are more than willing to spike prosperity in the guise of some vague utopian ideal. It is not about the ideal however, it is about accumulation of power to those in the lead.

How is Obama different from Chavez? Present opportunity, that is all.

358 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:18:20pm

re: #352 Iron Fist

I know what she meant. She meant:

359 nyc redneck  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:18:41pm

re: #349 WriterMom

hey WriterMom.
how are you this evening?

360 David Simon  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:18:56pm

re: #260 Killgore Trout

I make a living off rich people. Cellos ain't cheap and Obama putting the squeeze on rich people is doing me no favors.

I remember suffering through one of those insipid "man on the street" interviews years ago, where the reporter asks a loaded question such as, "What do you think about the tax cuts for the rich?" to a bunch of random hoi polloi. Finally, a blue collar, dem, dis, dat and dos type answered, "Hey man, that's who's giving me a job." Made my night.

361 lifeofthemind  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:18:58pm

re: #324 Kenneth

Is that a fish or a musical instrument?

Which would've been harder for the Flying Karamazov Brothers to have juggled?

362 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:19:15pm
363 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:19:15pm

re: #340 rightymouse

I wish she can help herself now but it looks like she cannot. Very sad.

She is in tough shape ow. Empty eyes. Very sad. The kids put her thru hell a few years back, trying to stop her from selling the Squaw Island House. They were unsuccessful, and a judge let her sell it.

364 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:19:16pm

Time to hit the sack.

See y'all in a week. Am off to Cancun tomorrow morning for some much needed sun. The Cleveland winter has been brutal this year.

365 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:19:22pm

re: #344 ArmyWife

My post disappeared! Obama! Is that you?

366 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:19:25pm

re: #355 jcm

Oy. Poor you and kids. We had a bug run through the house-I was hardest hit, and it was kind of a watered-down version for the rest.

367 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:20:00pm

re: #326 jaunte

The tax hike on everyone (no matter how rich or poor) is going to come through the Obama admin. energy policies which are guaranteed to make everything more expensive.

No! 95% of the American people won't have their taxes raised. O promised.
/

368 Catttt  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:20:06pm

re: #306 MandyManners

I thought he said $250,000.00 for a married couple and $200,000.00 for a single person is rich. Has he defined it downward already?


Middle class topped out at $70,000 in 2003

In a 2003 interview while starting his Senate campaign, Obama said that tax cuts should have been targeted no higher than the $70K level:


From that 2003 interview with the O:


Well, you know the problem was is that they weren’t targeted at the short term stimulus of the economy. What we should have done is if we were going to initiate tax cuts, and I’m a strong supporter of tax cuts for working families like the Earned Income Tax Credit, to initiate things like cuts in the Social Security tax, and other taxes that are really burdensome on families that are making 50, 60, 70 thousand dollars a year. Those tax cuts I think would have stimulated the economy.
369 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:20:22pm

re: #364 rightymouse

enjoy! Sounds much better than my sojourn to snowy Vermont!

370 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:20:27pm

re: #359 nyc redneck

Hi nyc redneck. I'm pretty good actually. A little tired, but good. We had delicious Moroccan fish for Shabbat dinner, it was soooo good.

371 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:20:33pm

re: #330 jcm

Now that's just straight up porn for me.

I really need to do a combat shooting course with popup targets... too much fun, it looks like.

In a related topic; I find I'm shooting consistently a little high/to the right. Not uncommon, I know, but before I train to correct for it, I'd want to make sure it's me (most likely, it is) and not the sights. What's the best way to check that?

372 Catttt  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:21:13pm

re: #368 Catttt

Which, I might add, makes me think the O thinks I'm rich.

373 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:21:21pm

re: #338 OldLineTexan

Give a description of the events.

/sheesh, no film noir background?

There I was, surrounded by ninjas....

Actually, I just went to the range. It was a good day for it here; cold and damp.

374 solomonpanting  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:21:33pm

re: #329 ggt

can you feign a cello?

Nein.

375 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:21:46pm

re: #363 CapeCoddah

She is in tough shape ow. Empty eyes. Very sad. The kids put her thru hell a few years back, trying to stop her from selling the Squaw Island House. They were unsuccessful, and a judge let her sell it.

They did gain conservatorship a couple of years ago, however, when she was found unconscious on the street in Boston.

376 brookly red  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:22:01pm

re: #365 ArmyWife

My post disappeared! Obama! Is that you?

could be the same demond that turns mine into ... I hate that.

377 jcm  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:22:13pm

re: #361 lifeofthemind

Which would've been harder for the Flying Karamazov Brothers to have juggled?

I saw them lose their challenge once. Some one brought a squid.

378 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:22:20pm

re: #368 Catttt

EITC. Great. Tax breaks for people that don't pay tax. Beauty.

379 Kenneth  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:22:32pm

Scary movie for a Saturday night...

Niall Ferguson Lecture: ‘There will be blood’

According to Ferguson, the worst is yet to come. The economy is merely in a "Wiley Coyote" moment right now... we've run off the edge of the cliff but haven't realized yet we are about to plummet.

The stuff of nightmares.

380 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:22:38pm

re: #347 CapeCoddah

That just sucks. Finnbar liked rocks when he was a pup, but, always pooped them out. We were very lucky.

I had a beagle that ate rocks. We didn't know what was wrong, but she didn't eat her dinner. When a beagle doesn't eat, you'd better get them to the vet straight away. Of course, it was the evening on a weekend--so that meant the emergency vet. $400 and surgery determined it was rocks she could not pass.

381 David Simon  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:22:44pm

re: #262 WriterMom

Good evening lizardim!

Finally, my little ray of sunshine arrives. I take it you're over that nasty cold?

(Sorry Morduchai)

382 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:23:06pm

re: #371 Occasional Reader

Ransom rest.

383 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:23:35pm

re: #344 ArmyWife

Armywife,

I grew up in Richmond, VA. 30 years there and only moved away a few years ago.

My Dad taught there my whole life, and most of his. if you want to know more about Richmond area schools, PM me. We can steer you in the right direction.

384 esch  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:23:40pm

re: #368 Catttt

"Those tax cuts I think would have stimulated the economy."

You have no concept of economics you vapid despicable tool!

385 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:23:40pm

re: #373 Occasional Reader

There I was, surrounded by ninjas....

Actually, I just went to the range. It was a good day for it here; cold and damp.

A bad day at the range beats a good day at work.

Need to take my Kimber out and waste some money.

386 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:23:40pm

re: #371 Occasional Reader

I find I'm shooting consistently a little high/to the right.

Make that, to the left.

387 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:24:27pm

re: #380 ggt

I had a beagle that ate rocks. We didn't know what was wrong, but she didn't eat her dinner. When a beagle doesn't eat, you'd better get them to the vet straight away. Of course, it was the evening on a weekend--so that meant the emergency vet. $400 and surgery determined it was rocks she could not pass.

We had to do a few dozen x-rays, but, luckily he only liked small stones.

388 albusteve  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:24:27pm

re: #373 Occasional Reader

There I was, surrounded by ninjas....

Actually, I just went to the range. It was a good day for it here; cold and damp.

my range was 70deg with a touch of a breeze...I shot up two boxes of 000 in my tee shirt...I just go to watch the big boys really

389 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:25:08pm

re: #374 solomonpanting

Nein.

Can you tape a cello?

390 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:25:17pm

re: #382 BignJames

Ransom rest.

Okay, and if I don't have one/have access to one?

391 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:25:17pm

re: #371 Occasional Reader

Now that's just straight up porn for me.

I really need to do a combat shooting course with popup targets... too much fun, it looks like.

In a related topic; I find I'm shooting consistently a little high/to the right. Not uncommon, I know, but before I train to correct for it, I'd want to make sure it's me (most likely, it is) and not the sights. What's the best way to check that?

Have someone else fire the weapon.

392 nyc redneck  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:25:24pm

re: #370 WriterMom

Hi nyc redneck. I'm pretty good actually. A little tired, but good. We had delicious Moroccan fish for Shabbat dinner, it was soooo good.

speaking of dinner, i was deleted from a dinner party by lib friends who have apparently thrown me under the bus.
it was inevitable that a rift was coming. i'm relieved. lol

393 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:25:44pm

re: #287 Occasional Reader

Yeah, turns out I'm "rich", too, isn't it great?

///

Wait 6 months and Obama will fix that for you.

394 NelsFree  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:26:00pm

re: #238 David Simon

Unlike the tax cuts, there are no sunset provisions in Obama's spending plans. As we've seen time and again, once an "entitlement" becomes law, there's very little chance of getting rid of it.

Obama's advisers are playing a dangerous game. There's no way to tax the income of the "rich" enough to pay for his quixotic plans. What to do? A national sales tax? Or will he push for a constitutional amendment to federally tax real estate and/or personal property?


Y'know, I've stared at this post for a while now, and i can't really add much to what others have typed. I will say that it is my opinion that the populace in revolt is something no longer beyond comprehension. We have not seen the last Tea Party this year. The game's afoot!

395 jcm  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:26:10pm

re: #386 Occasional Reader

Make that, to the left.

Anticipating recoil? I do that to. Low and right is my common error.

396 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:26:53pm

re: #390 Occasional Reader

Okay, and if I don't have one/have access to one?


Try sandbags from a bench rest.

397 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:27:33pm

re: #381 David Simon

You're sweet. LOL. Little miss sunshine. Ha! Yes, I'm better thanks, but the kids got a milder version. How are you?

398 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:28:11pm

re: #391 OldLineTexan

Have someone else fire the weapon.

What?! Someone else fire my PRECIOUSSSSS?!

399 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:28:13pm

re: #392 nyc redneck

Speaking of dinner - I just decided on top ramen and a Bruce Willis (as long as there is nothing in the movie that even remotely resembles top ramen.)

400 outsidephilly  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:28:47pm

re: #392 nyc redneck

speaking of dinner, i was deleted from a dinner party by lib friends who have apparently thrown me under the bus.
it was inevitable that a rift was coming. i'm relieved. lol


Seems I, too, am being 'skipped-over' by lib friends AND relatives......., I'm glad, though. It was exhausting hearing them go on and on about O.

401 NelsFree  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:29:04pm

re: #283 albusteve

you might consider violas, violins and fiddles...no?

He may consider other stringed instruments, but...
"There's always room for cello."
/60s commercial channelling

402 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:29:15pm

re: #392 nyc redneck

MAZEL TOV. Good riddance.

403 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:29:18pm

re: #395 jcm

Anticipating recoil? I do that to. Low and right is my common error.

I had that issue with my HK for months until someone gave me that graphic.

404 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:29:37pm

re: #387 CapeCoddah

We had to do a few dozen x-rays, but, luckily he only liked small stones.

good to hear. I hate it when they have to suffer.

405 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:30:01pm

re: #398 Occasional Reader

What?! Someone else fire my PRECIOUSSSSS?!

OK, if you're going to bite their finger off and leap into a volcano, let's junk THAT suggestion ...

406 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:30:07pm

re: #395 jcm

Anticipating recoil? I do that to. Low and right is my common error.

Probably. But I note I shoot better with my range's rental Custom II than with my own Warrior. Which makes me wonder about the sights.

407 Catttt  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:30:12pm

re: #399 shiek al beif salami

Speaking of dinner - I just decided on top ramen and a Bruce Willis (as long as there is nothing in the movie that even remotely resembles top ramen.)

What a koinkidink. I'm planning on Top Ramen too.

/Last night, we had a lamp chop for dinner. :D

408 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:30:49pm

re: #405 OldLineTexan

OK, if you're going to bite their finger off and leap into a volcano, let's junk THAT suggestion ...

Why are we monitoring those volcanoes, anyway?

409 David Simon  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:30:57pm

re: #279 WriterMom

BRO!

SIS! I forgot to tell you last week, when you feel that pre-cold sore throat coming on, take a teaspoon of salt and mix it with warm water. Gargle once in the morning and once at night (disgusting as hell, but hey, so are the unseemly bodily functions that accompany being sick) until you no longer feel like you have a sore throat. I haven't had a cold in two years. (And hopefully, I haven't just given myself a kenahora.)

410 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:31:14pm

I think I'll BBQ tomorrow.

411 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:31:15pm

new thread?

412 CapeCoddah  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:31:21pm

re: #404 ggt

good to hear. I hate it when they have to suffer.

Me too, can't stand it. I can't listen to stories about a child or a dog being hurt. It tears me up.

413 BignJames  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:31:26pm

re: #407 Catttt

What a koinkidink. I'm planning on Top Ramen too.

/Last night, we had a lamp chop for dinner. :D


Floor or table?

414 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:32:09pm

re: #408 Occasional Reader

Why are we monitoring those volcanoes, anyway?

FOOL! How else are we to destroy The One?

//////////

415 itellu3times  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:32:40pm

re: #356 Desert Dog

Don't tempt him. After he's done grabbing you by the ankles and shaking all the loose change out, he is going to tax your soul, your karma, your aura and your mood

And your patience.

416 nyc redneck  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:32:55pm

re: #400 outsidephilly

Seems I, too, am being 'skipped-over' by lib friends AND relatives......., I'm glad, though. It was exhausting hearing them go on and on about O.

yeah, me too. i just can't take the stress.
and you'd think they would settle down because THEY WON.
but they are worse than ever.

417 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:33:07pm

re: #407 Catttt

What a koinkidink. I'm planning on Top Ramen too.

/Last night, we had a lamp chop for dinner. :D

I was supposed to be at a dinner party tonight, but it was cancelled due to the host's bad cold. And, my wife is traveling. So it's just me, the Dogfish Head, and y'all.

418 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:33:49pm

re: #417 Occasional Reader

I was supposed to be at a dinner party tonight, but it was cancelled due to the host's bad cold. And, my wife is traveling. So it's just me, the Dogfish Head, and y'all.

Dogfish head! Good stuff.

419 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:34:00pm

Back in a flash.

420 brookly red  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:34:40pm

re: #415 itellu3times

And your patience.

HaHa, I'm from NYC I have no patience>

421 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:34:44pm

re: #417 Occasional Reader

I was supposed to be at a dinner party tonight, but it was cancelled due to the host's bad cold. And, my wife is traveling. So it's just me, the Dogfish Head, and y'all.

Hey, KT! You think you're in a tight spot? OR don't even have a whole sea kitteh ... just the danged old head.

//

422 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:34:53pm

re: #392 nyc redneck

speaking of dinner, i was deleted from a dinner party by lib friends who have apparently thrown me under the bus.
it was inevitable that a rift was coming. i'm relieved. lol

Their loss.

423 outsidephilly  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:36:44pm

re: #416 nyc redneck

yeah, me too. i just can't take the stress.
and you'd think they would settle down because THEY WON.
but they are worse than ever.


When I'm at the office I'm 'stuck' listening to the attorneys go on about O fixing the situation in Iraq -- UGH

I still have a hard time understanding their reasoning. Sadly, I'm having even a harder time looking at them, I really don't like them anymore.....

424 nyc redneck  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:37:05pm

re: #422 reine.de.tout

Their loss.

thanks reine.
i feel relieved. tho a little sad that that's the way it goes.

425 WriterMom  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:37:43pm

re: #409 David Simon

Ewww. I also haven't gotten sick in a while-just strep throat via the kids. TFUT TFUT TFUT (anti ein hara). LOL.

426 itellu3times  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:39:27pm

re: #420 brookly red

HaHa, I'm from NYC I have no patience>

I suppose Obama will then give you some, so assume the position and get ready to receive it

427 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:40:10pm
428 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:40:27pm

re: #407 Catttt

Top Ramen is when my wife makes it; top ramen is when I make it.

429 Catttt  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:40:27pm

re: #417 Occasional Reader

I was supposed to be at a dinner party tonight, but it was cancelled due to the host's bad cold. And, my wife is traveling. So it's just me, the Dogfish Head, and y'all.

It's good for you. Momofuku (no jokes allowed!) Ando, who invented it, ate it almost every day - he said that and golf were the secret of his long life (he lived to age 96).

430 nyc redneck  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:42:05pm

re: #423 outsidephilly

When I'm at the office I'm 'stuck' listening to the attorneys go on about O fixing the situation in Iraq -- UGH

I still have a hard time understanding their reasoning. Sadly, I'm having even a harder time looking at them, I really don't like them anymore.....

what i had w/ my libs was a kind of no-go zone void where there was simply no conversation.
and now that O WON, they are getting rambunctious.
and i'm not going to be pushed.

431 Catttt  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:42:23pm

re: #413 BignJames

Floor or table?

Bed.

432 David Simon  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:42:54pm

re: #397 WriterMom

You're sweet. LOL. Little miss sunshine. Ha! Yes, I'm better thanks, but the kids got a milder version. How are you?

Just okay. Working long hours, but thankful to have a secure job. The only bad part is that I don't get to chat with my LGF cyber friends during working hours anymore.

433 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:45:38pm
434 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:46:03pm

Damn weather forecasters. They promised us snow. We're getting sleet.

435 OldLineTexan  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:46:40pm

re: #434 Jim in Virginia

Damn weather forecasters. They promised us snow. We're getting sleet.

It's snowbama.

436 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:47:20pm
437 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:52:03pm
438 kansas  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:57:22pm

re: #76 Desert Dog

I find it rather odd that the man that wants to spend TRILLIONS is complaining about the Trillion dollar deficit he inherited.

And, he gives a speech about cutting the deficit the day after he added +$800 Billion on top of it.

Am I the only one noticing our beloved President is talking out of both sides of his mouth?

The sooner you get your mind right, the happier you will be.

439 outsidephilly  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:58:07pm

re: #430 nyc redneck

what i had w/ my libs was a kind of no-go zone void where there was simply no conversation.
and now that O WON, they are getting rambunctious.
and i'm not going to be pushed.


Good for you! I like your 'focus'!

Several of the attorneys sort of circle around me in a know-it-all hovering style and 'zing' me with one liners about O's cabinet picks.
They'll say, "What do you think about _______?" My reply always brought an onslaught of cocky jabs.
Now, I don't bother with much of a reply. When they ask, I look at them with a blank look and ask them, "Why do you care what I think?" That usually gets them snickering. They're really not worth the energy, although, after Spector voted for the stimulus pkg., these guys were actually gloating and I was so annoyed with Spector I wanted to spit!

This 'slap in the face' behavior is quite tiresome!

440 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 7:58:35pm

re: #434 Jim in Virginia

Damn weather forecasters. They promised us snow. We're getting sleet.

I think it's more like "wintry Micks". Those damn Irish!

441 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 8:04:55pm
If it is less than two or three inches at 25 yards,

Three inches at 25 yards, with a handgun, with no bench rest, and iron sights?

Either you're a much better shooter than I am, or you're damn optimistic!

442 Catttt  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 8:10:41pm

re: #439 outsidephilly

Wow. I feel lucky. Majority where I work are conservative, and most everyone keeps away from politics. I know one ultra-liberal young Jewish woman I love to argue with, because we both enjoy it, via IMs. Her bf is a conservative Italian guy who knows better than to open his mouth about politics anywhere near her. :D

443 outsidephilly  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 8:14:16pm

re: #442 Catttt

Wow. I feel lucky. Majority where I work are conservative, and most everyone keeps away from politics. I know one ultra-liberal young Jewish woman I love to argue with, because we both enjoy it, via IMs. Her bf is a conservative Italian guy who knows better than to open his mouth about politics anywhere near her. :D


We have always had differences of political, religious opinions and the discussions were always welcomed. However, these matters pertaining to O have created such of rift, its sickening!

444 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 8:39:43pm
445 Occasional Reader  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:13:55pm

re: #444 Iron Fist

Oh, are you still having problems with your grip working loose?

Yes, but checked on that today. The answer seems to be, remove grips, clean screws and attachment points, add a little Lock-Tite, put grips back on. No big deal.

446 So?  Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:11:56pm

Did they crawl through a tunnel? Too bad it didn't cave in.

/Why doesn't the US just send in a team of engineers and show Hamas how to build super-reinforced tunnels that Israel can't destroy.


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