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[Talking about a rock]

Frank Drebin: Where did it come from?

Ted Olsen: That’s very interesting, I have a theory about that. As you know Frank, billions of years ago, our Earth was a molted mass. But for some reason, not understood by scientists, the earth cooled, forming a crust, a hard igneous shell. That’s what we scientists call “Rock.”

Police Squad!

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1 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:16:09pm

But it's only a theory.

2 freedombilly  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:16:49pm

I thought earth was only 6,000 years old?

3 Mirage  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:18:22pm

Police Squad... totally funny

4 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:18:53pm

I'm glad Police Squad is getting it's just due after 20 years.

5 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:19:07pm

Capital On Strike

In the three months since the election, the broadest measure of the stock market's value, the Wilshire 5000 Index, has plunged more than 30%, slicing over $3 trillion from Americans' wealth. Investors have walked away from investing, while businesses shut down factories and offices and slash jobs.

This is both highly significant and dangerous. Capital, bluntly put, has gone on strike. Those who own wealth are pushing it to the sidelines, as a young and inexperienced president tries to jam through the most sweeping economic changes in over 70 years.

The prospect of these changes becoming law has already radically altered our nation's economy. Entrepreneurs and CEOs who once created new products, new services, jobs and trillions in wealth for America's workers and retirees now find themselves vilified and punished for their success.

ABC News reported this week that many upper-income taxpayers already are planning to cut back on work and investments to stay under $250,000 in income — the point where Obama's punitive taxes kick in. No one wins from this, yet Obama seems oblivious.

/as usual, IBD nails it, will Obama be too proud, at the nation's expense, to back off his ill timed, [expletive deleted] up, harmful agenda?

6 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:20:06pm

well, at least it's not Plan 9...

/don't think i ever saw this movie either

7 Mirage  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:20:25pm

Anyone have a guess to where the bottom of the stock market tanking will be? I'm afraid to guess ... it's not predicted to get better soon.

8 HelloDare  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:20:58pm

Igneous Shell, Maximilian Shell's younger brother and another fine Austrian actor.

9 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:21:41pm

re: #6 redc1c4

It was a t.v. show

10 Kragar  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:22:53pm

re: #9 BatGuano

It was a t.v. show

It was both

11 HelloDare  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:24:39pm

re: #5 Killian Bundy

Updinged in the Spinoffs.

12 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:25:00pm

re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Police Squad? Why didn't I know that (rhetorical question). I must see it then.

13 Pietr  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:26:27pm

re: #9 BatGuano

It was a t.v. show

But didn't it inspire like 3 movies? Seems I remeber something on that line, redc1c4...Oh, and good early morning, US Lizard nations peeps-at least those in the first 3 time zones. Good 'Whatever' to all others...when do we start talking guns, boobs, and getting punny?

14 Kragar  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:26:30pm

re: #12 BatGuano

Police Squad? Why didn't I know that (rhetorical question). I must see it then.

The Naked Gun movies were all "From the files of Police Squad"

15 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:28:22pm

re: #8 HelloDare

Igneous Shell, Maximilian Shell's younger brother and another fine Austrian actor.

Damn! You beat me to it!

16 Pietr  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:29:25pm

A pastor concluded that his church was getting into very serious

financial troubles. While checking the church storeroom, he
discovered

several cartons of new Bibles that had never been opened and

distributed.



So at his Sunday sermon, he asked for three volunteers from the

congregation who would be willing to sell the Bibles door-to-door for

$10 each to raise the desperately needed money for the church.



Jack, Paul and Louie all raised their hands to volunteer for the
task.



The minister knew that Jack and Paul earned their living as salesmen

and were likely capable of selling some Bibles. But he had serious

doubts about Louie who was a local farmer, who had always kept to

himself because he was embarrassed by his speech impediment. Poor

Louis stuttered badly. But, NOT WANTING TO discourage Louis, the

minister decided to let him try anyway.



He sent the three of them away with the back seat of their cars

stacked with Bibles. He asked them to meet with him and report the

results of their door-to-door selling efforts the following Sunday.



Anxious to find out how successful they were, the minister
immediately

asked Jack, 'Well, Jack, how did you make out selling our Bibles last

week?'



Proudly handing the reverend an envelope, Jack replied, 'Using my

sales prowess, I was able to sell 20 Bibles, and here's the $200 I

collected on behalf of the church.'



'Fine job, Jack!' The minister said, vigorously shaking his hand.
'You

are indeed a fine salesman and the Church is indebted to you.'



Turning to Paul, 'And Paul, how many Bibles did you sell for the

Church last week?'



Paul, smiling and sticking out his chest, confidently replied, 'I am
a

professional salesman. I sold 28 Bibles on behalf of the church, and

here's $280 I collected.'



The minister responded, 'That's absolutely splendid, Paul. You are

truly a professional salesman and the church is indebted to you.'



Apprehensively, the minister turned to Louie and said, 'And Louie,
did

you manage to sell any Bibles last week?' Louie silently offered the

minister a large envelope.



The minister opened it and counted the contents. 'What is this?' the

minister exclaimed. 'Louie, there's $3200 in here! Are you suggesting

that you sold 320 Bibles for the church, door to door, in just one

week?'



Louie just nodded. That's impossible!' both Jack and Paul said in

unison. 'We are professional salesmen, yet you claim to have sold 10

times as many Bibles as we could.'



'Yes, this does seem unlikely,' said the minister who didn't want to

appear to be a greed. 'I think you'd better explain how you managed
to

accomplish this, Louie.'



Louie sh rugged. 'I-I-I re-re-really do-do-don't kn-kn-know f-f-f
-for

sh-sh-sh-sure,' he stammered.



Impatiently, Peter interrupted. 'For crying out loud, Louie, just
tell

us what you said to them when they answered the door!'



'A-a-a-all I-I-I s-s-said wa-wa-was,' Louis replied, 'W-w-w-w-would

y-y-y-you l-l-l-l-l-like t-t-to b-b-b-buy th-th-th-this B-B-B-B-Bible

F-f-for t-t-ten b-b-b-bucks ---o-o-o-or--- wo-wo-would yo-you

j-j-j-just l-like m-m-me t-t-to st-st-stand h-h-here and

r-r-r-r-r-read it t-to y-y-you?'

17 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:29:47pm

re: #7 Mirage

Anyone have a guess to where the bottom of the stock market tanking will be? I'm afraid to guess ... it's not predicted to get better soon.

"0"?

18 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:30:22pm

re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It was both

well, i didn't see either... %-)

19 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:30:24pm

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There is 98.7 % possibility that I was confused in the eighties, what what with all that blow and all, so now that that you mention the Naked Gun, all is coming into fuzzy focus.

20 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:30:37pm

A show I liked watching back in the day.

21 SurferDoc  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:30:39pm

Hal, open the goddam pod bay doors or I'm going to come in there and kick your ass!

22 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:30:56pm

I loved the ending, of Police Squad, which was always a false "freeze-frame" -- the cops pretending to be frozen in time while something else continues as usual, such as a chimpanzee playing around in the background.

23 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:33:07pm

re: #5 Killian Bundy

Capital On Strike

A couple of trillion in bogus capital, evaporated. The remaining capital is still hiding in the cellar.

I'd like to suggest there is still TOO MUCH capital sloshing around the world - or else how could our fed get away with the zero percent interest rates right now?

These are crazy times.

24 Kragar  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:33:24pm

re: #22 Mardukhai

I loved the ending, of Police Squad, which was always a false "freeze-frame" -- the cops pretending to be frozen in time while something else continues as usual, such as a chimpanzee playing around in the background.

I remember when the guy they arrested was unfrozen, but he was stuck wandering around the squadroom because all the doors were blocked.

25 Cognito  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:33:27pm

re: #7 Mirage

Anyone have a guess to where the bottom of the stock market tanking will be? I'm afraid to guess ... it's not predicted to get better soon.

It'll probably be the day after I lose my house.

Monday: Pack up and head to the local shelter, cash gone and credit ruined.

Tuesday: Massive global rebound.

26 Kragar  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:35:00pm

Anyone watch Flight of the Conchords?

27 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:35:13pm

re: #24 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah -- I always wanted someone to steal their pants when that happened.

28 HelloDare  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:35:21pm
29 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:35:34pm

re: #7 Mirage

Anyone have a guess to where the bottom of the stock market tanking will be? I'm afraid to guess ... it's not predicted to get better soon.

I think we're close.

I hope we're close.

No guarantees.

30 witchynurse  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:35:48pm

re: #7 Mirage

It'll get a nice bounce once Teh Prez gets a month long case of laryngitis.

31 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:36:11pm

Anybody see Jonathan Krown, the 13 year old Conservative historian, writer, and thinker? Unbelievable...

32 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:36:35pm

re: #19 BatGuano

There is 98.7 % possibility that I was confused in the eighties, what what with all that blow and all, so now that that you mention the Naked Gun, all is coming into fuzzy focus.

i got blown a couple times in the 80's too!

/white smoke

33 Cognito  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:37:00pm

re: #31 Mardukhai

Anybody see Jonathan Krown, the 13 year old Conservative historian, writer, and thinker? Unbelievable...

I don't want to sound overly skeptical, but come on now -- 13?

34 Kragar  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:37:01pm

re: #32 redc1c4

i got blown a couple times in the 80's too!

/white smoke

I thought it was white lines...

35 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:37:05pm

re: #32 redc1c4

Rump-bump!

36 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:37:44pm

re: #23 itellu3times

A couple of trillion in bogus capital, evaporated.

/it's not bogus to Joe 401(K)

37 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:38:10pm

re: #33 Cognito

Cogito, he was on Fox News, he addressed the CPAC conference, and he just published his first book, an essay on Conservative ideas, which he boils down to four theses.

38 Mirage  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:38:14pm

Started a betting pool at work ... what will the bottom of the stock market be before it rebounds ... one guy thinks it bottomed already, everyone else thinks it'll sink even lower.

39 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:38:44pm

The book is called "Conservative Ideas"

40 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:39:17pm

re: #29 itellu3times

I think we're close.

I hope we're close.

No guarantees.

i think that with the budget & the cap & trade fiasco on the horizon, we're still due for some more deep dives. if both of those pass pretty much as he wants them, 0 might not be the bottom.

41 Cognito  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:39:51pm

re: #39 Mardukhai

The book is called "Conservative Ideas"

I just have a hard time believing in the wise council of someone who doesn't yet wear deodorant.

42 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:39:53pm

Cleaning windows (Van Morrison)

Whats my line?
I'm happy cleaning windows
Take my time
Ill see you when my love grows
Baby don't let it slide
I'm a working man in my prime
Cleaning windows...


/Namaste, Y'all

43 Cognito  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:40:13pm

Counsel. Geez.

44 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:40:21pm

re: #32 redc1c4

I can still see through the white smoke you deviated prevert!

45 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:40:53pm

re: #37 Mardukhai

Cogito, he was on Fox News, he addressed the CPAC conference, and he just published his first book, an essay on Conservative ideas, which he boils down to four theses.

and he's likely a better writer than Ear Leader & his ghost...

/of course, my cat's likely a better writer than those two nit wits.

46 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:41:22pm

re: #41 Cognito

He's on You Tube as well. I was shocked. I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but he is better spoken than most other pundits because he is basically a teacher. I know, it's really strange, a thirteen year old sage.

47 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:41:30pm

re: #44 BatGuano

I can still see through the white smoke you deviated prevert!

you misspelled "septum"...

48 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:42:31pm

Actually, the kid reminds me of me, except I've always been interested in "bad ideas" -- ideas that could never be made to work.

49 Cognito  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:42:33pm

re: #46 Mardukhai

He's on You Tube as well. I was shocked. I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but he is better spoken than most other pundits because he is basically a teacher. I know, it's really strange, a thirteen year old sage.

I searched for his name on YouTube, but didn't see anything... is there another term I should use?

50 Cognito  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:43:18pm

Ah. I think it may be Jonathan Krohn.

51 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:44:33pm

Try [Link: www.defineconservatism.com...]

His name is actually spelled Jonathan Krohn.

52 lostlakehiker  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:45:19pm

Mark Steyn gave arguments why it had to be 6800, 6300, 6100, 5000, 3500, or 1000. His point being that nobody knows. His wider point being that the government keeps moving the goalposts and changing the rules, so that it is impossible that anybody can know what assets are worth. What they're worth depends on what the law is. How much is a barrel of oil worth? That depends on whether you're allowed to sell it, or if instead there's a carbon tax, punitive "windfall" profits taxes, or whatever. With less tangible assets, the problem is aggravated.

Now there will always be high rollers, unsure like everyone else of what stocks are worth, but willing to take a flyer. They, alone, are too few to sustain any particular floor. Before the market can make a bottom and hold, the government has to make a decision and let some of the failing companies fail. I can't name them here, and I don't really know anyhow, but there are some big names much in the news.

That would begin to clear the air.

53 Pietr  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:45:24pm

Free Arbys', anyone...

Coupon

Supposed to be good thru the 9th.

54 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:46:11pm

BTW: if anyone wants my opinion, the Vista OS is an absolutely worthless POS.

55 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:46:26pm

And I got the name of the book wrong, it's Define Conservatism.

56 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:46:46pm

Even with yesterday's debacle, two of the most active stock options were GE MAR 10 CALL and BA MAR 5 CALL.

/a lot of traders were betting those two stocks are going to increase in value over the next 14 trading sessions

57 Cognito  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:47:13pm

I'm listening to him now, at CPAC.

He's clearly a bright kid, a quick study, and he's been listening to some smart people. None of the ideas he's expressing are original, but that's okay -- he's a kid -- and I don't seriously think anyone sees him as a leader of any sort. I hope.

So he's kind of a show, right? Kind of like the little Chinese girls who play violin?

58 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:47:22pm

And now I must get back to work on my book about bad ideas in practice.

59 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:48:04pm

re: #54 redc1c4

Thanks, I had already written it off. I have not heard one good word about it.

60 Mardukhai  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:48:29pm

re: #57 Cognito

I'm listening to him now, at CPAC.

He's clearly a bright kid, a quick study, and he's been listening to some smart people. None of the ideas he's expressing are original, but that's okay -- he's a kid -- and I don't seriously think anyone sees him as a leader of any sort. I hope.

So he's kind of a show, right? Kind of like the little Chinese girls who play violin?

The Chinese girls who play violin don't write books or hold their own in an intellectual forum. I've done both, and it isn't easy.

61 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:48:40pm

re: #53 Pietr

Free Arbys', anyone...

Coupon

Supposed to be good thru the 9th.

i'm trying to think where the nearest one is from my house... Van Nuys maybe? $3 worth of gas to get a $3 sandwich in a sketchy part of town.

/not exactly a bargain

62 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:50:16pm

re: #61 redc1c4

i'm trying to think where the nearest one is from my house... Van Nuys maybe? $3 worth of gas to get a $3 sandwich in a sketchy part of town.

/not exactly a bargain

Yep...Van Nuys and north of Victory.

63 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:50:44pm

re: #59 BatGuano

Thanks, I had already written it off. I have not heard one good word about it.

well, my 2K box decided to get st00pid fryday evening, and i'm still trying to get it unfucked, so until then, i'm stuck with this POS. i'm tempted to wipe this drive and reload 2K, but no sense playing like that until i have the other back up and running.

64 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:50:53pm

One more...
And It Stoned Me

Half a mile from the county fair
And the rain keep pourin' down
Me and Billy standin' there
With a silver half a crown
Hands are full of a fishin' rod
And the tackle on our backs
We just stood there gettin' wet
With our backs against the fence
Oh, the water
Oh, the water
Oh, the water
Hope it don't rain all day


Namaste, for real, y'all

65 Pietr  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:51:27pm

I got this Email-liked it...

D-I-V-O-R-C-E
Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:

We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion.

That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. We will take the small towns and rural areas and you can take the big cities, especially NYC, Chicago , San Francisco and Los Angeles . After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don't like redistributive taxes, so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O' Don nell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).

We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens.

We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood ...

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine , and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters.

When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain.. You can also have the U.N., but we will no longer be paying the bill.

We'll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya, or We Are the World.

We'll practice trickle-down economics, and you can give trickle-up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely, John J. Wall
Law Student and an American

P.S.

Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda with you.

66 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:51:29pm

re: #62 TheMatrix31

Yep...Van Nuys and north of Victory.

over on Sepulveda, IIRC: have a nosh and watch the w*rking girls.

67 Mirage  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:51:56pm

re: #53 Pietr

Free Arbys', anyone...

Coupon

Supposed to be good thru the 9th.

Woot... lunch tomorrow :D

68 Cheechako  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:52:40pm

re: #61 redc1c4

i'm trying to think where the nearest one is from my house... Van Nuys maybe? $3 worth of gas to get a $3 sandwich in a sketchy part of town.

/not exactly a bargain

69 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:56:15pm

re: #66 redc1c4

over on Sepulveda, IIRC: have a nosh and watch the w*rking girls.

Heh...I don't like going into that part of town either. Lots of traffic from people who may or may not have car insurance.

/toss up

70 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:57:54pm

re: #65 Pietr

Morning Lizards. Saved and will be passing on.

71 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:58:16pm

re: #63 redc1c4

I started with windows 3.1 and gone through , 95, 98, and in 2004 loaded XP and will stay with it until there is a consensus that there is something better.

72 Mirage  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:58:23pm

re: #65 Pietr

I got this Email-liked it...

D-I-V-O-R-C-E
Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:

We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion.

That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. We will take the small towns and rural areas and you can take the big cities, especially NYC, Chicago , San Francisco and Los Angeles . After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don't like redistributive taxes, so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O' Don nell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).

We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens.

We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood ...

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine , and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters.

When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain.. You can also have the U.N., but we will no longer be paying the bill.

We'll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya, or We Are the World.

We'll practice trickle-down economics, and you can give trickle-up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely, John J. Wall
Law Student and an American

P.S.

Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda with you.

One could only wish they'd take the deal... upding

73 Cheechako  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:58:26pm

re: #68 Cheechako


Need PIMF

I think I'll pass too. Would take a 100 mile ferry trip and 800 mile to the nearest ARBY's. Cost/benefit just doesn't work out.
(And I like ARBY's!)

74 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:58:26pm

I never thought I'd ever have to rely on Pelosi and Reid to cut up Obama's credit cards.

/cap and trade, if implemented, will be the death knell of our economy and our express ticket to Third World status

75 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:00:00am

This Day in History, March 3:

76 Kragar  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:00:53am

re: #73 Cheechako

Need PIMF

I think I'll pass too. Would take a 100 mile ferry trip and 800 mile to the nearest ARBY's. Cost/benefit just doesn't work out.
(And I like ARBY's!)

They used to have a roast chicken with 3 melted cheese and bacon sandwich. I'd kill for one of those about now.

77 Pietr  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:03:35am

re: #70 Erik The Red

Morning Lizards. Saved and will be passing on.

Hey, Erik-missed you when I got back-no one was matching jokes/puns with me-I was the Lone Comic Relief (key 'Lone Ranger" theme...)... LOL.

78 stevieray  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:04:06am

re: #71 BatGuano

Windows 7 beta is getting good reviews.

We'll see how it pans out in the general release.

79 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:04:47am

re: #73 Cheechako

Need PIMF

I think I'll pass too. Would take a 100 mile ferry trip and 800 mile to the nearest ARBY's. Cost/benefit just doesn't work out.
(And I like ARBY's!)

Love those French Freedom Dip & Swiss subs...

80 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:05:22am

re: #77 Pietr

Hey, Erik-missed you when I got back-no one was matching jokes/puns with me-I was the Lone Comic Relief (key 'Lone Ranger" theme...)... LOL.

I am starting to run out of material. I will have to slow down a bit until I find another good source.

81 itellu3times  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:05:54am

re: #36 Killian Bundy

/it's not bogus to Joe 401(K)

Call me Joe.

But most of the instruments that evaporated, were not owned in retail accounts. Now regular stocks are tanking, too, but that's a secondary effect. The issue on the table was whether "capital is on strike". When my retail account gets hit, that is not "capital on strike".

82 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:06:02am

re: #76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They used to have a roast chicken with 3 melted cheese and bacon sandwich. I'd kill for one of those about now.

i saw a picture of a bacon double cheese burger made with grilled cheese sandwiches instead of buns...

/health food!

83 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:06:23am

re: #78 stevieray

Yuppers, I'm always skeptical. We'll see how the chimps they send up make out.

84 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:07:29am

Robinson Crusoe fell desperately ill. Just before dropping into a coma, he called for his man Friday to help him. "Friday, get help! Get help!"

"Yes!" Friday replied, "Get help now!" Not knowing what else to do, he went outside of Crusoe's tent and danced and prayed for the gods to come and help his master.

Shortly afterwards, he went back into Crusoe's tent and found his master awake and staring at a beautiful glowing shape at the foot of his bed.

"Who is that?" Robinson Crusoe asked.

His helper answered, "Thank Friday! It's God!"

85 Pietr  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:08:03am

re: #75 gmsc

gmsc, am I the only one who finds it significant that BO takes office in a year with 3 FRIDAY the 13th's? I believe that is OUR bad luck, not his...:>((

86 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:08:56am

Roy was entertaining a friend in his living room. They were talking about all sorts of things. Roy mentioned he had a very good cat but this cat had been acting strange lately. He was biting and chewing all of Roy's shoes.

He had just gone out and bought some new ones to replace the shoes the cat had destroyed. This morning Roy found that the cat got to his brand new shoes. Just then, the cat walked through the living room. His friend interrupted, saying, "Pardon me Roy, is that the cat who chewed your new shoes?"

87 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:09:08am
88 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:10:20am

re: #85 Pietr

Eh?

89 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:11:21am

Three explorers had arrived in Africa to explore territory that had never been seen by Europeans before. Immediately upon arrival, they enlisted the services of a native to translate for them and another native to act as a guide. After a few days, they had organized their supplies and secured trhe services of porters. They were ready at last!

Off they went into the jungle! They had a few days of travel before they got to the area they wished to explore. The travel went smoothly and uneventfully.

The day dawned when they began to travel into the unknown jungle. After a few hours travel, their guide got very excited upon seeing something on the ground. The three explorers and their translator hurried over to see what was the matter. The translator explained, "He says that this is the mark of the Fabulous Foo Bird! They are very rarely seen! They are very lucky!"

The explorers chuckled to themselves at the natives' superstitions and the safari moved on. After awhile, they heard a horrible squawking from the air above them. As they looked up to see what it was, the sun was briefly hidden as an enormous bird flew overhead. As they were staring, there was a loud squelching sound, followed by cries of disgust from the senior explorer. The other turned to see that he was covered with bird poop. The guide got even more excited when he saw this and began gesturing frantically at the explorer. The translator said, "That was the Fabulous Foo Bird! He says you must not wipe this off! If you leave it on and do not wash it off, you will receive untold wealth and fortune. But he says if you wipe it off, you will die horribly!"

"Nonsense!" said the explorer. He disgustedly cleaned himself up, all the while grumbling about superstitions. The natives began murmuring. They were very nervous. A short time later, the senior explorer was clean and still very much alive. "There! You see? Nothing to worry about!" he said. Three steps later he fell over dead, his body rotting away.

After the shock died down, the guide looked somewhat smug.

The next day, the same squawking was heard, followed by the appearance of the bird. This time, the second explorer was coated in gunk. Once again, the guide issued his hysterical warning. "Poppycock!" said the second explorer. "That was a coincidence. I am not going to trek through Africa coated in bird droppings becuase of some silly superstition!" He proceeded to clean himself off, but wasn't even finished before he collapsed dead into a pile of dust.

After the shock died down, the guide again looked somewhat smug.

The next day, the same squawking was heard, followed by the appearance of the bird. This time, the youngest (and only remaining) explorer was coated in gunk. Once again, the guide issued his hysterical warning. The nervouse young explorer decided to play it safe and continue the exploration in his filthy state. This met with great approval by the natives.

The expedition continued and proved to be a smashing success, with great discoveries. The young explorer recived incredible accolades and lived a very long and wealthy life.

From then on, enterprising explorers were always given this sage advice: if the foo shits, wear it.

91 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:11:49am

re: #85 Pietr

gmsc, am I the only one who finds it significant that BO takes office in a year with 3 FRIDAY the 13th's? I believe that is OUR bad luck, not his...:>((

It's amusing to think about, and something to tag him with, but I don't know that I'd call it significant.

92 TheMatrix31  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:11:53am

re: #87 redc1c4

health food!

Wow...that looks so good. Not even being sarcastic.

93 Cygnus  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:12:59am

re: #61 redc1c4

i'm trying to think where the nearest one is from my house... Van Nuys maybe? $3 worth of gas to get a $3 sandwich in a sketchy part of town.

/not exactly a bargain

You could email them the coupon and they email back the burger. :)

94 Cygnus  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:15:28am

re: #87 redc1c4

health food!

My arteries are screaming in agony from just looking at that. Whoa.

95 stevieray  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:16:44am

re: #87 redc1c4

health food!

Dinner tomorrow.

Looks ultra yummy.

96 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:18:24am

Paddy was on his deathbed. Mike was attending him. Paddy said, "remember when when we came here fifty years ago from the old country and we brought that bottle of Irish whiskey?"

Mike said, " Yes paddy."

"Well, when I am dead and buried, I want you to pour the rest of the bottle on my grave. Will you do that?"

" Yes Paddy. But do ya' mind if it passes through me kidney's first?"

97 Kragar  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:19:10am

re: #94 Cygnus

My arteries are screaming in agony from just looking at that. Whoa.

Need some Disco Fries to go with that.

98 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:19:12am

re: #87 redc1c4

health food!

That gets me hungry, but not for that sandwich. It makes me hungry for a Royal Red Robin Burger.

99 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:19:59am

A tourist in Vienna is going through a graveyard and all of a sudden he hears some music. No one is around, so he starts searching for the source.
He finally locates the origin and finds it is coming from a grave with a headstone that reads: Ludwig van Beethoven, 1770-1827. Then he realises that the music is the Ninth Symphony and it is being played backward! Puzzled, he leaves the graveyard and persuades a friend to return with him.By the time they arrive back at the grave, the music has changed. This time it is the Seventh Symphony, but like the previous piece, it is being played backward.
Curious, the men agree to consult a music scholar. When they return with the expert, the Fifth Symphony is playing, again backward. The expert notices that the symphonies are being played in the reverse order in which they were composed, the 9th, then the 7th, then the 5th.
By the next day the word has spread and a throng has gathered around the grave. They are all listening to the Second Symphony being played backward.
Just then the graveyard's caretaker ambles up to the group. Someone in the crowd asks him if he has an explanation for the music.
"Oh, it's nothing to worry about" says the caretaker. "He's just decomposing."

100 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:20:48am

re: #90 Killian Bundy

/Bacon Explosion: The BBQ Sausage Recipe of all Recipes

that's one helluva fattie...

i take sausage rolls, Jimmey Dean, etc, and cover them in BBQ rub, then smoke them along with whatever's on the WSM, as a snack/hor d'ourve, but that's kicking it up a notch or two.

101 Mirage  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:21:12am

re: #87 redc1c4

health food!

Anyone ever hear of the Heart Attack Grill?

102 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:24:42am

re: #98 gmsc

That gets me hungry, but not for that sandwich. It makes me hungry for a Royal Red Robin Burger.


Fatburger makes several similar to that, but there's nothing like a Tommys Burger!

/shit: now i'm hungry

103 Pietr  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:24:55am

re: #87 redc1c4

health food!

The comments were the funny part...SNAKEJAWS...Bwwwaaahhaaahhaa...

104 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:25:44am

re: #101 Mirage

Anyone ever hear of the Heart Attack Grill?

yes.

105 stevieray  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:27:04am
106 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:27:48am

re: #102 redc1c4

Fatburger makes several similar to that, but there's nothing like a Tommys Burger!

/shit: now i'm hungry

I've never been happy with the Fatburger versions - the Royal Red Robin is my favorite.

A Tommy's just opened near my house, and I tried their chiliburger. It was good, and would have no problem going there again, but it doesn't really stand out in my mind.

107 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:28:32am

and then there's always Jack Mack and the Heart Attack

108 Pietr  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:30:20am

re: #89 Dustyvet

I've always said this-but I spoonerize a lot, Dusty...How are ya? and back at ya:

A father walks into a restaurant with his young son. He gives the young boy 3 nickels to play with to keep him occupied. Suddenly, the boy starts choking, going blue in the face.

The Father realizes the boy has swallowed the nickels and frantically starts slapping him on the back. The boy coughs up 2 of the nickels, but keeps choking...

Looking at his son, the father is panicking, shouting for help.

A well dressed, attractive and serious looking woman, in a blue business suit, is sitting at a coffee bar reading a newspaper and sipping a cup of coffee. At the sound of the commotion, she looks up, puts her coffee cup down, neatly folds her newspaper and places it on the counter, gets up from her seat and makes her way, unhurried, across the restaurant.

Reaching the boy, the woman carefully drops his pants, takes hold of the boy's testicles and starts to squeeze and twist, gently at first, then ever so firmly. After a few seconds, the boy convulses violently and coughs up the last nickel, which the woman deftly catches in her free hand.

Releasing the boys testicles, the woman hands the nickel to the father and walks back to her seat in the coffee bar without saying a word.

As soon as he is sure that his son has suffered no ill effects, the father rushes over to the woman and starts thanking her, saying,"I've never seen anybody do anything like that before. It was fantastic! Are you a doctor?"

"No," replied the woman. "Divorce Attorney."

109 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:31:46am

re: #107 redc1c4

and then there's always Jack Mack and the Heart Attack

Is that why Mr. Jack Box is in the hospital?

110 Killian Bundy  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:32:00am

Gulf TV in Hebrew seeks to educate Israelis on Islam

Leaders of the Support Prophet Mohammed Organization, based in the Gulf state Bahrain, stressed on Sunday the need to establish a TV channel in Hebrew to teach Israelis about Islam's values, the Dubai-based newspaper Gulf News reported.

The organization hopes that with the help of television, which they consider to be the most effective medium, and by using people familiar with Israeli society, they can present explanations about Islam to Jews and help them better appreciate the religion, the paper reported.

/I'm pretty sure that Israel gets all they need to know about Islam flying randomly out of Gaza on a daily basis

111 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:33:11am

re: #106 gmsc

I've never been happy with the Fatburger versions - the Royal Red Robin is my favorite.

A Tommy's just opened near my house, and I tried their chiliburger. It was good, and would have no problem going there again, but it doesn't really stand out in my mind.

it's just indulgence... order extra chilli extra cheese.

better yet, just order extra everything. %-)

112 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:33:37am

re: #111 redc1c4

it's just indulgence... order extra chilli extra cheese.

better yet, just order extra everything. %-)

I'll try that next time!

113 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:35:54am

and, for something a bit different, you can always get one of Mike's Hockey Burgers

114 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:36:53am

re: #112 gmsc

I'll try that next time!

then wear your trashy clothes... you'll have stuff everywhere. %-)

115 Killian Bundy  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:38:18am

re: #112 gmsc

I'll try that next time!

Nutritional Facts - Chili Burger

/nothing says take the cap off the salt shaker like Sodium: 1020mg

116 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:38:48am

gmsc's money tips #13:

One of the most basic pieces of monetary advice, saving (as suggested in the reference I mention in my very first money tips post), isn't always easy. True, paying yourself first is a good idea, but are there any other ways to help you save?

You bet! Here are some handy "hacks" (clever ways) to help you save money!

Get Rich Slowly gives us 11 sure-fire ways to jump start your savings (with a hat tip to Dana Bratch at MSN Money).

Once you've jump-started your savings, how do you keep doing it? Digerati Life has 15 excellent suggestions for paying yourself first, and Lifehacker offers 10 more suggestions.

Those of you who frequently give in to impulse buys will especially enjoy the 30-day rule.

Although they're not focused exclusively on savings, The Simple Dollar has some hacks for your wallet to help you save time and money. My favorite suggestion here is the one about wrapping a picture of your goal or inspiration around your credit card.

117 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:40:42am

A trucker pulls into a truck stop and orders a piece of apple pie and a glass of milk. It is served to him but a biker grabs the piece of pie and eats it and another biker drinks his milk. The truck driver, without a word, pays the bill and walks out.

One of the bikers says to waitress," Not much of a man, was he?

The waitress says looking out the window,"Not much of a truck driver either. He just ran over two motorcycles".

118 Pietr  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:41:07am

1. Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggert have writtennn
An impressive new book.. It's called ...
'Ministers Do More Than Lay People'

2. Transvestite: A guy who likes to eat, drink
And be Mary.

3. The difference between the Pope and
Your boss, the Pope only expects you
To kiss his ring.

4. My mind works like lightning, One brilliant
Flash and it is gone.

5. The only time the world beats a path to
Your door is if you're in the bathroom.

6. I hate sex in the movies. Tried it once...
The seat folded up, the drink spilled and
That ice, well, it really chilled the mood.

7. It used to be only death and taxes
Now, of course, there's
shipping and handling, too.

8.. A husband is someone who, after taking
the trash out, gives the impression that
he just cleaned the whole house.

9 My next house will have no kitchen - just
Vending machines and a large trash can.

10. A blonde said, 'I was worried that my
Mechanic might try to rip me off.
I was relieved when he told me all
I needed was turn signal fluid.'

11.. Definition of a teenager?
God's punishment...for enjoying sex.

12. As you slide down the banister of life, may
The splinters never point the wrong way.

119 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:41:23am

re: #115 Killian Bundy

Nutritional Facts - Chili Burger

/nothing says take the cap off the salt shaker like Sodium: 1020mg

all you health fanatics are going to feel really stupid lying in the hospital dying of nothing.

120 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:41:57am

re: #101 Mirage

Anyone ever hear of the Heart Attack Grill?

My small, little dream. I'll visit it one day. And not just for the food.

121 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:45:37am

Interesting Comparison

Which of these spent more political contribution and lobbying money in the last election cycle:

• Two largest defense contractors
• Four largest oil companies
• Two largest teachers unions

Yes, it was the teachers. I am sure it was for the kids, though. This actually understates the teacher’s efforts. The corporate donations of the oil and defense companies are spread pretty evenly between both parties. They are simply trying to buy access. The teachers gave their money almost entirely to the Democrats.

122 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:48:49am

re: #119 redc1c4

Shit! If only you smoked, we'd have the technology to save you.

/stole that joke

123 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:54:00am

Bob received a free ticket to the Superbowl from his company.
Unfortunately, when Bob arrived at the stadium he realizes the seat is
in the last row in the corner of the stadium -- he is closer to the
Goodyear Blimp than the field. About halfway through the first
quarter, Bob noticed an empty seat 10 rows off the field right on the
50 yard line. He decided to take a chance and makes his way through
the stadium and around the security guards to the empty seat.
As he sat down, he asked the gentleman sitting next to him, "Excuse
me, is anyone sitting here?"
The man said "no".
Very excited to be in such a great seat for the game, Bob said to the
man next to him, "This is incredible! Who in their right mind would
have a seat like this at the Superbowl and not use it?!"
The man replied, "Well, actually, the seat belongs to me, I was
supposed to come with my wife, but she passed away. This is the first
Superbowl we haven't been to together since we got married in 1967."
"That's really sad," says Bob, "but still, couldn't you find someone
to take the seat? A relative or a close friend?"
"No," the man replied, "they're all at the funeral."

124 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:54:47am

A fifth grader looked downcast, so her teacher asked, "What's the
problem, Carol? I hope it's not homework again."
"Well, uh, yes, it is." replied Carol. "I was stupid and made my
homework paper into a paper airplane."
"Carol, you're right, that wasn't a very bright thing to do," said the
teacher, "but this once I'll let you just unfold the paper and hand it
in."
"Oh, but that won't work," said Carol, looking even sadder. "You see,
the plane was hijacked."

125 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:55:32am

re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth

Shit! If only you smoked, we'd have the technology to save you.

/stole that joke

he was a funny guy, for a liberal.

126 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:57:24am

re: #123 Erik The Red

Damn, I can't do two up-dings.

127 Killian Bundy  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 12:58:34am

Well, so far, the U.S, market futures aren't rolling over yet.

/but you're not getting anywhere close to yesterday's 300 points back either

128 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:00:35am

re: #127 Killian Bundy

Perhaps if Obama would keep his his mouth shut there might be a rebound across the board.

129 Pietr  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:00:41am

re: #120 Slumbering Behemoth

My small, little dream. I'll visit it one day. And not just for the food.

Wow...and the best buns in this were at about 3:26, with red crosses on them...LOL.

130 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:01:38am
131 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:02:22am

Two old guys, one 80 and one 87, were sitting on their usual park bench one
morning.

The 87 year old had just finished his morning jog and wasn't even short of
breath. The 80 year old was amazed at his friend's stamina and asked him
what he did to have so much energy

The 87 year old said 'Well, I eat Jewish rye bread every day. It keeps your
energy level high and you'll have great stamina with the ladies.'

So, on the way home, the 80 year old stops at the bakery. As he was looking
around, the lady asked if he needed any help. He said, 'Do you have any
Jewish rye bread?'

She said, 'Yes, there's a whole shelf of it . Would you like some?'

He said, 'I want 5 loaves'.

She said, 'My goodness, 5 loaves...by the time you get to the 5th loaf,
it'll be hard'

He replied, 'I can't believe it, everybody in the world knows about this
shit but me.'

132 Killian Bundy  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:02:44am

re: #128 BatGuano

Perhaps if Obama would keep his his mouth shut there might be a rebound across the board.

/gee, what are the chances of that happening?

133 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:03:23am

An older, white haired man walked into a jewelry store one Friday evening
with a beautiful young gal at his side. He told the jeweler he was looking
for a special ring for his girlfriend.

The jeweler looked through his stock and brought out a $5,000 ring. The old
man said, "No, I'd like to see something more special."

At that statement, the jeweler went to his special stock and brought
another ring over. "Here's a stunning ring at only $40,000" the jeweler
said.

The young lady's eyes sparkled and her whole body trembled with excitement.
The old man seeing this said, "We'll take it."

The jeweler asked how payment would be made and the old man stated, "By
check. I know you need to make sure my check is good, so I'll write it now
and you can call the bank Monday to verify the funds and I'll pick the ring
up Monday afternoon," he said.

Monday morning, the jeweler phoned the old man. "There's no money in that
account."

"I know," said the old man, "But let me tell you about my weekend!

134 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:03:31am

re: #127 Killian Bundy

The Dow will probably close up $.08 later on today and the media will credit 0bama's leadership for the 'rally'...

135 Pietr  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:03:59am

An old man goes into a drug store and says

'Can I have 6 Viagra tablets, cut in quarters?'

'I can cut them for you' said Dan the pharmacist '

But a quarter tablet will not give you a full erection. '

'I am 96' said the old man. 'I don't want an erection.

I just want it sticking out far enough so I don't piss on my slippers.'

136 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:04:31am

With all the turmoil in the market today and the collapse of Lehman Bros
and Acquisition of Merrill Lynch by Bank of America this might be some good
advice. For all of you with any money left, be aware of the next expected
mergers so that you can get in on the ground floor and make some BIG bucks.
Take note:

1.) Hale Business Systems, Mary Kay Cosmetics, Fuller Brush, and W R. Grace
Co. Will merge and become: Hale, Mary, Fuller, Grace.

2.) Polygram Records, Warner Bros., and Zesta Crackers join forces and
become: Poly, Warner Cracker.

3.) 3M will merge with Goodyear and become: MMMGood.

4. Zippo Manufacturing, Audi Motors, Dofasco, and Dakota Mining will merge
and become: ZipAudiDoDa .

5. FedEx is expected to join its competitor, UPS, and become: FedUP.

6. Fairchild Electronics and Honeywell Computers will become: Fairwell
Honeychild.

7. Grey Poupon and Docker Pants are expected to become: PouponPants.

8. Knotts Berry Farm and the National Organization of Women will become:
Knott NOW!

And finally...

9. Victoria 's Secret and Smith &Wesson will merge under the new name:
TittyTittyBangBang

137 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:06:13am

re: #132 Killian Bundy

Let me get out my calculator punch in a few numbers...NONE! OY.

138 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:07:14am

A PGA professional golfer, in an awful car crash, was rushed to the
hospital where the surgeon told the pro he had lost his right arm, but that
he had good news.

The despondent pro said, "There goes my life, Doc."

"Not necessarily, my good man." answered the doctor. He said that a lady, a very nice lady, before dying had donated all of her organs and body
parts to anyone who was in need. The surgeon said he could transplant the
lady's right arm to the pro golfer.

The pro became ecstatic and the operation was a success.

Three months later, the pro visited the doctor to tell him his new hand and
arm had him winning tournaments right and left.

"That's great," said the surgeon.

"Not only that, Doc, but my handwriting has improved a thousand percent,
I've also taken up oil painting and sold my first canvas for $3000.00."

"Unbelievable. " said the doctor. "I'm so glad the transplant was such a
success."

"But there is one problem." the golf pro said.

"What's that?" asked the surgeon.

"Every time I touch my privates, I get a horrible headache.

139 Pietr  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:08:05am

OKAY. How would you pronounce this child's name?

Le-a (written just like that)

Leah? NO

Lee - A? NOPE

Lay - a? NO

Lei? Guess Again

It's pronounced 'Ledasha.' Oh yes, you read it right.

This child attends a school in Livingston Parish, LA. Her mother is
irate because everyone is getting her name wrong. SO, if you see
something come across your desk like this, please remember to pronounce
it correctly.

When the mother was asked about the pronunciation of the name, she
said, 'The dash don't be silent.'

140 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:08:29am

re: #125 redc1c4

Yer too kind in your assessment. He's more a troofer than a liberal. Still, he was quite funny. Being a smoker, I do give him props on that subject.

/not a prophet, just a funny guy

141 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:09:47am

re: #139 Pietr

OKAY. How would you pronounce this child's name?

Le-a (written just like that)

Leah? NO

Lee - A? NOPE

Lay - a? NO

Lei? Guess Again

It's pronounced 'Ledasha.' Oh yes, you read it right.

This child attends a school in Livingston Parish, LA. Her mother is
irate because everyone is getting her name wrong. SO, if you see
something come across your desk like this, please remember to pronounce
it correctly.

When the mother was asked about the pronunciation of the name, she
said, 'The dash don't be silent.'

That is a joke right?

142 TheMatrix31  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:10:47am

Did I just hear Beck say that if Jesus spent a million dollars per hour til now, it still wouldn't reach the $10.5 trillion that the stock market has lost since it's peak in October 2007!?

143 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:11:05am

A man is waiting in line for a hit movie. Behind him are two women. The
usher comes along and says that he has two seats together. Seeing the
problem, the usher says to the man, "Let them go first. You wouldn't want
to separate a woman from her mother, would you?"

The man says, "No, sir. I did that once, and I've been sorry ever since."

144 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:11:50am

re: #134 Fenway_Nation

The Dow will probably close up $.08 later on today and the media will credit 0bama's leadership for the 'rally'...

Well, $.08 would about sum up 0bama's leadership qualities.
;)

145 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:12:28am

re: #144 gmsc

I think you're giving him too much credit.

146 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:12:28am

A virile, young Italian soldier was relaxing at his favorite bar in Rome,
when he managed to attract a spectacular young blonde. Things progressed to
the point where he invited her back to his apartment; and after some small
talk, they made love. After a pleasant interlude, he asked with a smile,

"So...you finish?"

She paused for a second, frowned, and replied "No."

Surprised, the young man reached for her; and the love making resumed. This
time, she thrashes about wildly; and there are screams of passion. The love
making ends; and again, the young man smiles, and asks,

"You finish?"

And again, after a short pause, she returns his smile, cuddles closer to
him, and softly says, "No."

Stunned, but damned if this woman is going to outlast him, the young man
reaches for the woman. Using the last of his strength, he barely manages
it; but they climax simultaneously, screaming, bucking, clawing and ripping
bed sheets. The exhausted man falls onto his back, gasping. Barely able to
turn his head, he looks into her eyes, smiles proudly, and asks,

"You finish?"

"No!" she shouts back, "I Sveedish!"

147 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:13:09am

re: #129 Pietr

Hot cross buns?

/diggin' real deep for a joke...

148 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:14:58am

Sister Mary burst into the office of the principal of a parochial school in
a very advanced state of agitation. "Father!" she cried, "just wait until
you hear this!"

The priest led the sister to a chair, and said, "Now just calm down and
tell me what has you so excited?"

"Well, Father" the nun began, "I was just walking down the hall to the
chapel and I heard some of the older boys wagering money!"

"A serious infraction, indeed!" said the priest.

"But that's not what has me so shocked, Father," replied the nun, "it was
what they were wagering on! They had wagered on a contest to see who could
urinate the highest on the wall!"

"What an incredible wager!" exclaimed the priest, "What did you do?"

"Well, I hit the ceiling, father."

To which the priest replied, "How much did you win?"

149 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:15:16am

re: #141 Erik The Red

That is a joke right?

i can believe it's real...

150 Pietr  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:15:25am

re: #141 Erik The Red

Not sure, but I don't have a link for an article...just something I saved, tho I've seen it b4...

151 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:15:32am

re: #144 gmsc

Well, $.08 would about sum up 0bama's leadership qualities.
;)

you'd be overpaying.

152 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:15:43am

re: #141 Erik The Red

At first glance it might appear to be. But I read at NRO some women wanted to name their girl children, Vagina.

153 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:16:50am

re: #145 Fenway_Nation

I think you're giving him too much credit.

GMTA!

154 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:17:54am

re: #142 TheMatrix31

I think it was a million dollars per year.

155 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:18:13am

re: #139 Pietr

OKAY. How would you pronounce this child's name?

Le-a (written just like that)

Leah? NO

Lee - A? NOPE

Lay - a? NO

Lei? Guess Again

It's pronounced 'Ledasha.' Oh yes, you read it right.

This child attends a school in Livingston Parish, LA. Her mother is
irate because everyone is getting her name wrong. SO, if you see
something come across your desk like this, please remember to pronounce
it correctly.

When the mother was asked about the pronunciation of the name, she
said, 'The dash don't be silent.'

You asked how I would pronounce it, though. I would pronounce it "Lee - A". The mom doesn't like it? That's her problem. Give the kid a name that's easier for people to read and understand.

When that singer with the name spelled "Sade" came out, I always pronounced it as "Say-dee". Yes, people would correct me and say it's pronounced, "Shar-Day". I would always respond, "Hey, it's not my problem she can't spell correctly."

156 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:18:43am

re: #149 redc1c4

i can believe it's real...

re: #150 Pietr

Not sure, but I don't have a link for an article...just something I saved, tho I've seen it b4...

re: #152 BatGuano

At first glance it might appear to be. But I read at NRO some women wanted to name their girl children, Vagina.

The parents should be put in jail for child abuse. Some people are just fucking stupid.

157 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:19:00am

re: #145 Fenway_Nation

I think you're giving him too much credit.

But I hear 0bama is big on giving people unearned credit!
;)

158 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:19:32am

re: #155 gmsc

Hear, hear! I loved her music though.

159 Mirage  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:20:37am

re: #144 gmsc

Well, $.08 would about sum up 0bama's leadership qualities.
;)

Giving him too much credit.

160 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:21:11am

From a job interview:

Interviewer: "And where were you educated?"

Interviewee: "Yale."

Interviewer: "That's very impressive, Mr. . . . I'm sorry, what was your name again?"

Interviewee: "Yim Yohnson."

161 Pietr  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:21:19am

Fake? You decide...

Actual 'Letter to the Editor' from the February 5th edition of the
Wichita Falls , Texas Times Record News...

Dear IRS,

I am sorry to inform you that I will not be able to pay taxes owed April 15, but all is not lost.

I have paid these taxes: accounts receivable tax, building permit tax, CDL tax, cigarette tax, corporate income tax, dog license tax, federal income tax, unemployment tax, gasoline tax, hunting license tax, fishing license tax, waterfowl stamp tax, inheritance tax, inventory tax, liquor tax, luxury tax, Medicare tax, city, school and county property tax (up 33 percent last 4 years), real estate tax, social security tax, road usage tax, toll road tax, state and city sales tax, recreational vehicle tax, state franchise tax, state unemployment tax, telephone federal excise tax, telephone federal state and local surcharge tax, telephone minimum usage surcharge tax, telephone state and local tax, utility tax, vehicle license registration tax, capitol gains tax, lease severance tax, oil and gas assessment tax, Colorado property tax, Texas, Colorado, Wyoming, Oklahoma and New Mexico sales tax, and many more that I can't recall but I have run out of space and money.

When you do not receive my check April 15, just know that it is an honest mistake. Please treat me the same way you treated Congressmen Charles Rangle, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and ex-Congressman Tom Dashelle and, of course, your boss Timothy Geithner. No penalties and no interest.

P.S. I will make at least a partial payment as soon as I get my stimulus check.

Ed Barnett

Wichita Falls

162 Mirage  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:21:28am

re: #145 Fenway_Nation

I think you're giving him too much credit.

Ahh, beat me to it

163 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:21:32am

A guy walks into a bar with his pet monkey. He orders a drink and while he's drinking, the monkey starts jumping all over the place. The monkey grabs some olives off the bar and eats them, then grabs some sliced limes and eats them,then jumps up on the pool table, grabs the cue ball, sticks it in his mouth and swallows it whole.

The bartender screams at the guy, "Did you see what your monkey just did?" The guy says, "No, what?" "He just ate the cue ball off my pool table - whole!" says the bartender. "Yeah, that doesn't surprise me," replies the patron. "He eats everything in sight, the little twerp. I'll pay for the cue ball and stuff." He finishes his drink, pays his bill, and leaves. Two weeks later he's in the bar again, and he has his monkey with him. He orders a drink and the monkey starts running around the bar again.

While the man is drinking, the monkey finds a maraschino cherry on the bar. He grabs it, sticks it up his butt, pulls it out, and eats it. The bartender is disgusted. "Did you see what your monkey did now?" "Now what?" asks the patron. "Well, he stuck a maraschino cherry up his butt, then pulled it out and ate it!" says the barkeeper.

"Yeah, that doesn't surprise me," replies the patron. "He still eats everything in sight, but ever since he ate that damn cue ball he measures everything first!"

164 TheMatrix31  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:21:48am

re: #154 BatGuano

I think it was a million dollars per year.

That was regarding the stimulus bill, the one I heard about the hour (not million-per-day) is about the 10.5 trillion dollar loss in the markets since Oct 07.

165 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:22:02am

re: #156 Erik The Red

The parents should be put in jail for child abuse. Some people are just fucking stupid.

my dad claimed that one of his college friends, a chem major, named his daughter polly etheylene...

166 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:23:15am

Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson went on a camping trip. After a good meal and a bottle of wine, they were exhausted and went to sleep.
Some hours later, Holmes awoke and nudged his faithful friend.

"Watson, look up at the sky and tell me what you see."

Watson replied, "I see millions and millions of stars."

"What does that tell you?" Holmes said Watson pondered for a minute.

"Astronomically, it tells me that there are millions of galaxies and potentially billions of planets. Astrologically, I observe that Saturn is in Leo. Timewise, I deduce that the time is approximately a quarter past three. Theologically, I can see that The lord is all powerful and that we are small and insignificant. Meteorologically, I suspect that we will have, a beautiful day tomorrow. What does it tell you?"

Holmes was silent for a minute, then spoke. "Watson, you idiot, Some --- has stolen our tent."

167 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:24:22am

A brunette, a redhead and a blonde are in a breast stroke race. The starter's gun goes off and the three girls dive into the pool. The brunette and the redhead shoot across the pool and get out; 20 minutes later the blonde reaches the end and gets out. The judge says, "The gold medal goes to the brunette, the silver medal goes to the redhead, and the bronze goes to the blonde". The blonde says, "I don't want to be a sore loser, but I think the other girls were using their arms."

168 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:25:00am

re: #164 TheMatrix31

That's very different. Never mind.

169 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:25:57am

Heh. She's the reason for the word...

G'nite Lizards.

170 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:26:47am

re: #157 gmsc

Unless you're being treated at the University of Chicago medical Center.

171 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:27:12am

re: #156 Erik The Red

The parents should be put in jail for child abuse. Some people are just fucking stupid.

Many of these are urban legends, although some are real, according to this page on Snopes.

172 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:27:32am

Womens prayer
Before I lay me down to sleep,
I pray for a man, who's not a creep,
One who's handsome, smart and strong
One who loves to listen long,
One who thinks before he speaks,
One who'll call, not wait for weeks.
I pray he's gainfully employed,
When I spend his cash, won't be annoyed.
Pulls out my chair and opens my door,
Massages my back and begs to do more.
Oh! Send me a man who'll make love to my mind,
Knows what to answer to "how big is my behind?"
I pray that this man will love me to no end,
And always be my very best friend.
Amen.

173 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:27:43am

Mans prayer
I pray for a deaf-mute nymphomaniac with big tits
who owns a liquor store and a bass boat.
This doesn't rhyme and I don't give a shit
Amen.

174 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:29:42am

re: #173 Erik The Red

Mans prayer
I pray for a deaf-mute nymphomaniac with big tits
who owns a liquor store and a bass boat.
This doesn't rhyme and I don't give a shit
Amen.

Mandy & Sharmuta are gonna get you for that.

175 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:31:14am

re: #171 gmsc

Many of these are urban legends, although some are real, according to this page on Snopes.

lol some pretty dumbass people out there.

176 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:32:13am

re: #175 Erik The Red

lol some pretty dumbass people out there.

you're just *now* figuring that out?

177 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:32:23am

re: #174 redc1c4

Mandy & Sharmuta are gonna get you for that.

ROTFL. Morning 2M and Sharmuta.

178 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:35:45am
179 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:37:35am

re: #174 redc1c4

Charles, remove my up-ding before Mandy and Sharmuta see it. There's a good boy. Thank you.

180 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:38:44am

There was a couple that lived in my neighborhood as a kid that had twin boys.

The mother didn't care for cutsey stuff like dressing them the same. As a matter of fact, she absolutely refused to give her twin boys rhyming names when they were born.

Her idea was to give them distinct, normal-sounding, non-rhyming names. When the twins were born she named one Matthew and the other Patrick.

This worked well until they started attending school. Ever since then, they've been referred to as Matt and Pat!

181 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:39:25am

re: #172 Erik The Red

Womens prayer
Before I lay me down to sleep,
I pray for a man, who's not a creep,
One who's handsome, smart and strong
One who loves to listen long,
One who thinks before he speaks,
One who'll call, not wait for weeks.
I pray he's gainfully employed,
When I spend his cash, won't be annoyed.
Pulls out my chair and opens my door,
Massages my back and begs to do more.
Oh! Send me a man who'll make love to my mind,
Knows what to answer to "how big is my behind?"
I pray that this man will love me to no end,
And always be my very best friend.
Amen.

which is why women should get dogs instead of cats or boy friends.

182 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:40:03am

One more, then I'm out for real.

G'nite.

183 BatGuano  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:41:22am

G'night ya'll.

184 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:43:33am

re: #182 Slumbering Behemoth

One more, then I'm out for real.

G'nite.

re: #183 BatGuano

G'night ya'll.

Goodnight, SB and BG!

185 DocDale  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:45:04am

Serious terror attack in Pakistan, directed at the Sri Lankan cricket team. This is huge -- cricket is practically a religion in the subcontinent -- the accepted wisdom always was that Al Qaeda wouldn't attack cricketers because they love the game too. Even the Taliban didn't try very hard to ban cricket.

The upshot? No international cricket tours to Pakistan for the foreseeable, further denting its economy, and a realisation among people in Pakistan that they really will have to get serious about these nutters or risk losing everything.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

[Link: blogs.news.com.au...]

186 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:45:35am

re: #180 gmsc

Any parent should run potential names by a non-emotionally invested 3rd party to see if they see problems. Mainly of the "he's gonna get his ass kicked for all 12 years of school with that name" type problem.

187 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:47:17am

re: #185 DocDale

Serious terror attack in Pakistan, directed at the Sri Lankan cricket team. This is huge -- cricket is practically a religion in the subcontinent -- the accepted wisdom always was that Al Qaeda wouldn't attack cricketers because they love the game too. Even the Taliban didn't try very hard to ban cricket.

The upshot? No international cricket tours to Pakistan for the foreseeable, further denting its economy, and a realisation among people in Pakistan that they really will have to get serious about these nutters or risk losing everything.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

[Link: blogs.news.com.au...]

i doubt they will be smart enough to draw the conclusions.

188 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:50:06am

re: #186 ArchangelMichael

Any parent should run potential names by a non-emotionally invested 3rd party to see if they see problems. Mainly of the "he's gonna get his ass kicked for all 12 years of school with that name" type problem.

anyone smart enough to do that, wouldn't likely name their kid anything st00pid. some cultures are not as wise as others.

189 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:51:40am

re: #186 ArchangelMichael

Any parent should run potential names by a non-emotionally invested 3rd party to see if they see problems. Mainly of the "he's gonna get his ass kicked for all 12 years of school with that name" type problem.

I think Sue would disagree- I mean he turned out just fine.

190 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:54:52am

Hey everyone, just popping in after (mostly) finishing my online physics homework that was due at 11:pm PST

191 DocDale  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:59:11am

Cricinfo willing to use the 'T' word:

[Link: www.cricinfo.com...]

192 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 1:59:43am

Say, I was recently nominated as webmaster for the college republicans here at OregonStateUniversity. This other guy I know well but has less time than I do was helping me a little with it and drupal. Later on I was looking at Joomla instead because of its potentially faster set up time. Any thoughts on this?

BTW the URL is [Link: crosu.org...] so far I have not changed the background to the theme, just pretend you see a nice pretty picture of the American flag there.

193 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:00:00am

re: #190 hypothetical truth

Hey everyone, just popping in after (mostly) finishing my online physics homework that was due at 11:pm PST

i had algebra due tonight... worst part of the course is knowing that, at my age, i really don't need to know any of this i don't already know, and that i will *never* use this crap, but if i don't pass, i don't get the degree and the j*b that comes with it. hell, i don't even really want the j*b, but who can afford to be picky in these times?

i HATE useless BS.

194 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:00:15am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

195 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:00:35am

re: #194 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Good morning, YOL! (Yummy Old Lady!)
;)

196 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:01:13am

As it is the website is in Drupal right now... this other guy did the setting up, I tried to follow... Drupal seems really complicated.

197 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:01:13am

gmsc! :-)

Yeah, I saw where you guyz weren't behaving upstream. ;-)

198 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:01:27am

re: #194 littleoldlady

Did my St. Bernard w/the empty flask on his collar arrive yet?

199 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:01:38am

re: #194 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

{lol} Morning and thanks

200 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:02:00am

re: #194 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

lol, you are an inspiation in these trying times. Your dedication in this weather is above and beyond, but then again---

201 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:02:18am

re: #197 littleoldlady

gmsc! :-)

Yeah, I saw where you guyz weren't behaving upstream. ;-)

Hey no boobies today at least:)

202 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:03:27am

re: #193 redc1c4

Ha, don't talk to me about useless classes... try to imagine me taking a sociology class... or a biology class.. For Mechanical Engineering! Jeez. Hated both classes and both teachers were flakes. even though I did fairly well in them.. heh.

203 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:04:34am

Fenway! :-)

Goofy storm we had. All drifts! Luckily most of it blew OFF the driveway.

/but where the dog likes to do "her business" she's kinda up to her neck.

The good news is March snowstorms tend to disappear quickly.

204 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:05:45am

Erik! :-)

re: #200 Panhandler

Panhandler! :-)

Yeah. Substitute our dog in that picture. ;-)

205 Dekar  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:06:14am

re: #17 redc1c4

"0"?

Equity can't be valued at 0, so no :P

206 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:06:22am

re: #202 hypothetical truth

Ha, don't talk to me about useless classes... try to imagine me taking a sociology class... or a biology class.. For Mechanical Engineering! Jeez. Hated both classes and both teachers were flakes. even though I did fairly well in them.. heh.

my anthro 101 teacher went on at length about how the rich were bankrolling the NASA exploration of Mars, because they've destroyed Earth with global warming, but that they're going to have to induce global warming on Mars to make it habitable so they can escape and leave the rest of us to die...

207 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:07:00am

re: #205 Dekar

Equity can't be valued at 0, so no :P

what if there's no equity left?

208 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:08:08am

re: #203 littleoldlady

Fenway! :-)

Goofy storm we had. All drifts! Luckily most of it blew OFF the driveway.

/but where the dog likes to do "her business" she's kinda up to her neck.

The good news is March snowstorms tend to disappear quickly.

it was mid 80's here this weekend... had the top down on the SLK while out driving...

drank lots of beer while gardening too! %-)

/white smoke

209 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:08:11am

re: #205 Dekar

Equity can't be valued at 0, so no :P

0 equity

210 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:08:15am

re: #206 redc1c4

my anthro 101 teacher went on at length about how the rich were bankrolling the NASA exploration of Mars, because they've destroyed Earth with global warming, but that they're going to have to induce global warming on Mars to make it habitable so they can escape and leave the rest of us to die...

So much for that theory: Climate change hits Mars

211 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:10:07am

re: #206 redc1c4

HAHAHAhahahaha! Ok, you win. My biology teacher only had us watch An Inconvenient Truth in class, then turn in a 11 question thing on it the next week. I wish I knew where that paper was, I wrote down some good stuff in there.

At the end of the term I gave her a copy of The Great Global Warming Swindle I had downloaded and put on CD for her.

212 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:10:19am

re: #208 redc1c4

SLK huh, I can see why you don't go to Arbys

213 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:10:54am

re: #201 Erik The Red

Hey no boobies today at least:)

tit's still early!

214 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:11:19am

re: #202 hypothetical truth

My kid is taking some kind of art appreciation class as part of her college required courses. I call it "Basketweaving 101".

215 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:12:02am

re: #208 redc1c4

SHADDUP!

Hiya, red! ;-)

216 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:12:04am

re: #212 Panhandler

SLK huh, I can see why you don't go to Arbys

HER SLK... i drive a beat up pickup.

217 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:12:56am

re: #214 littleoldlady

My kid is taking some kind of art appreciation class as part of her college required courses. I call it "Basketweaving 101".

i'm taking "English Composition"...

/coals to newcastle

218 TheMatrix31  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:14:02am

Got screwed on UCLA's registration system AGAIN and ended up having to add a BS class that I don't want to take...

**sigh**

219 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:14:33am

re: #214 littleoldlady

Yeah, they call those 'electives' or your 'free classes' basically they have to be in a certain category (like Difference Power and Discrimination) and always have nothing to do with your degree. Something to do with Well Rounding you off or something... maybe white guilt?

220 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:14:41am

re: #215 littleoldlady

SHADDUP!

Hiya, red! ;-)

got hummers up the waz too... they've been drinking like me on... well, most any time. %-)

221 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:16:01am

re: #217 redc1c4

i'm taking "English Composition"...

/coals to newcastle

Oh, "composition", I thought you said--

222 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:16:32am

I hope the radicals are happy now in Pakistan. No World Cup in 2011

223 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:17:11am

I don't know why I torture myself like this every day by staying up late... maybe its the programmer in me. (most likely, I love programming)

224 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:18:16am

BTW: did i share the good news?

225 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:19:04am

Hurry up and post! I'm still pumped up that the answer for one of my physics problems was 7^2*length based on the conservation of energy law.

226 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:19:20am

re: #223 hypothetical truth

I don't know why I torture myself like this every day by staying up late... maybe its the programmer in me. (most likely, I love programming)

like Hunter said, it's hard to soar with the turkeys in the morning when you wallow with the eagles at night.

/or something like that. %-)

227 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:19:59am

re: #225 hypothetical truth

Hurry up and post! I'm still pumped up that the answer for one of my physics problems was 7^2*length based on the conservation of energy law.

are you sure that was the answer?

i got 32, because ice cream has no bones.

228 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:20:06am

re: #219 hypothetical truth

Oh no! It's a requirement, under the category of Humanities.

/feh

She ran out of all the English and History classes that are required and that she's good at. Now she's stuck with Chemistry and Statistics for next year.

/probably should have taken them first. I would have only had to pay for ONE semester of college before she threw in the towel...

229 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:21:03am

re: #224 redc1c4

Grreat news. Reminds me of when the Navy Retirement people called me and said "Sir, could you send us some paperwork, the computer lost 17 years of your records."

230 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:21:08am

re: #224 redc1c4

BTW: did i share the good news?

Congrats you old fart :)

231 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:21:22am

re: #224 redc1c4

Kewl!

/got pension? ;-)

232 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:21:36am

while we're on the subject of requirements, WTF is "modern language"?

233 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:21:54am

re: #224 redc1c4

BTW: did i share the good news?

Congrats, you old fart!
;)

234 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:22:39am

re: #231 littleoldlady

Kewl!

/got pension? ;-)

when i turn 60, if i'm still alive... i'll be rolling in the dough.

pension

235 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:23:52am

re: #230 Erik The Red

Congrats you old fart :)

re: #233 gmsc

Congrats, you old fart!
;)

GMTA - even if you did beat me by 46 seconds!

236 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:23:58am

re: #229 Panhandler

Grreat news. Reminds me of when the Navy Retirement people called me and said "Sir, could you send us some paperwork, the computer lost 17 years of your records."

originally, they told me i had 19 years, 9 months and 12 days good out of 20, 19 and 15, or some such. the new CSM kicks some SERIOUS ass.

237 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:25:32am

re: #228 littleoldlady

Oh no! It's a requirement, under the category of Humanities.

/feh

She ran out of all the English and History classes that are required and that she's good at. Now she's stuck with Chemistry and Statistics for next year.

/probably should have taken them first. I would have only had to pay for ONE semester of college before she threw in the towel...

i can relate: i'm ready to quit on a daily/weekly basis.

if i was supposed to have patients, i'd be a hospital, not w*rk in one.

238 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:25:41am

re: #227 redc1c4

The problem read...

An object at rest on a flat, horizontal surface explodes into two fragments, one seven times as massive as the other. The heavier fragment slides 6.50meters before stopping. How far does the lighter fragment slide? (assume that both fragments have the same coefficient of kinetic friction)

Fun problem, 5min of thinking and I figured it out, I like easy problems. Easy problems are few and far between for me theses days :/

239 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:27:01am

re: #234 redc1c4

when i turn 60, if i'm still alive... i'll be rolling in the dough.

pension

hmmm musta thought it was code: lets just say it's south of $300/month.

it'll cover my cheap beer habit, but not the good stuff.

240 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:27:26am

re: #235 gmsc

GMTA - even if you did beat me by 46 seconds!

Been trying to work out what GMTA means?

241 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:28:18am

re: #238 hypothetical truth

The problem read...

Fun problem, 5min of thinking and I figured it out, I like easy problems. Easy problems are few and far between for me theses days :/

did yuo allow for ricochets, spall liners and reactive armor?

242 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:28:36am

re: #236 redc1c4

Good on ya, in my case the system would accept any 1 year but would dump the data when they tried to run a total. I'm sitting there with a green ID card in my wallet going "What the hey?". Took 2 years to straighten out.

243 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:28:39am

re: #240 Erik The Red

Been trying to work out what GMTA means?

GMTA=Great Minds Think Alike!

244 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:29:08am

re: #240 Erik The Red

Been trying to work out what GMTA means?

Greenwich Mean Time Adjusted?

/white smoke

245 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:29:17am

re: #243 gmsc

GMTA=Great Minds Think Alike!

Thanks lol.

246 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:29:40am

re: #245 Erik The Red

Thanks lol.

You're welcome.

247 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:30:01am
because I like sharing my favorite music :-)

That's the best physics/math/programming music I can think of

248 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:30:48am

Gotta
Make
Tamales
ASAP!

/I think...

249 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:31:17am

re: #242 Panhandler

Good on ya, in my case the system would accept any 1 year but would dump the data when they tried to run a total. I'm sitting there with a green ID card in my wallet going "What the hey?". Took 2 years to straighten out.

if i hadn't had a Usenet friend who is DMPO, and who pulled my records before they were dumped, i would have been screwed. the military used to keep pay records, but a few years back, suddenly decided they didn't need to anymore.

wanna guess how many GI's are going to get FUBAR'd over that little decision?

250 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:32:07am

re: #248 Fenway_Nation

Gotta
Make
Tamales
ASAP!

/I think...

Goat Meat Tastes Awful

251 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:33:56am

re: #249 redc1c4

Never, I repeat , never toss out any paperwork, especially any old ratty DD214s that happen to be lying around.

252 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:35:26am
ok, I lied, there is one more that is better/awesomenesser/whatever

so sue me, be sure to watch it firs though :)

253 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:35:42am

re: #251 Panhandler

Never, I repeat , never toss out any paperwork, especially any old ratty DD214s that happen to be lying around.

tru dat... but sometimes, stuff happens. there's no good reason for them to have stopped saving the records, and lots of bad ones.

254 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:35:45am

re: #247 hypothetical truth

[Video] because I like sharing my favorite music :-)

That's the best physics/math/programming music I can think of

And now, an a cappella treat to follow up:

255 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:36:00am

*first

256 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:36:30am

re: #252 hypothetical truth
Dude, I'm on the second pass and enjoying the heck out of it - and I can't program the microwave.

257 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:38:43am

re: #256 Panhandler

it truly is amazing... I think there are 4-6 of those machines in that video.

258 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:40:15am

re: #254 gmsc

And now, an a cappella treat to follow up:



Great, someone snuck a camera into an Obama Cabinet meeting.

259 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:41:23am

re: #257 hypothetical truth

it truly is amazing... I think there are 4-6 of those machines in that video.

since you're into physics, try this.

/posted earlier, but you might find it entertaining

260 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:45:36am

re: #259 redc1c4

Ha! thats awesome! so much for getting to bed before 3am

261 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:47:20am

here is another fun one I saw a couple friends playing between classes...
[Link: www.kongregate.com...]

262 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:48:45am

re: #260 hypothetical truth

Ha! thats awesome! so much for getting to bed before 3am

well, the Persian just came in an bitched at me, so i'm for bed.

hasta y'all...

L8r!

263 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:50:53am

re: #260 hypothetical truth

Ha! thats awesome! so much for getting to bed before 3am


Maybe this will help you to wind down.

264 gmsc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:52:17am

Good night, all!

265 jim in virginia  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:00:28am

Good morningn all.
Remember the Dallas episode in which Pam wakes up and the entire past season was just a dream?

OK, you know where I'm going with this.
15 and clear here today.

266 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:02:52am

Good morning, Lizards!

267 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:03:38am

{goddess}
Warm hug!
How are things?

268 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:05:18am

Morning jim, morning goddess...

/lizard shift change

269 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:08:07am

{Jim in Virginia}
{Fenway Nation}

I just learned that because of a wind-chill advisory, we have a 2 hour delay.

And I'm already awake and showered,

Sigh.

270 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:10:36am

re: #269 goddessoftheclassroom

Think of all you can accomplish. Two hours is practically enough time to redecorate the whole house.

271 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:12:04am

re: #270 Jim in Virginia

Think of all you can accomplish. Two hours is practically enough time to redecorate the whole house.

Pay no attention to him Goddess, he's obviously a batchelor.

272 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:14:29am

re: #271 Panhandler

Pay no attention to him Goddess, he's obviously a batchelor.

Hee! Hee!

I SHOULD be doing something productive, but I'll probably sit her at LGF...

273 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:15:04am

re: #272 goddessoftheclassroom

Hee! Hee!

I SHOULD be doing something productive, but I'll probably sit her at LGF...

Oh noes!

274 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:17:16am

JIV, was it you that lost heat yesterday?

275 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:20:35am

Nope, not me. I have the thermostat set at 80. My Hawaiian upbringing.

276 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:23:09am

re: #275 Jim in Virginia

Dats OK then. Can't remember who it was that had to try and get by with space heaters. Somewhwere up in your neck of the woods though.

277 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:24:44am

re: #275 Jim in Virginia


WWJCD?

What Would Jimmy Carter Do?

(Besides telling us to wear a sweater)

278 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:25:04am

Can't go OT on the ONT so here's a break from the Dow and all.
Visegrips

279 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:27:10am

Alright, enough of that game, time for bed. good night.

280 NYCHardhat  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:27:42am

Good morning folks. You hear the one about Marine One plans finding their way into the hands of...Iran?

281 abolitionist  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:30:31am

re: #238 hypothetical truth

The problem read...

Fun problem, 5min of thinking and I figured it out, I like easy problems. Easy problems are few and far between for me theses days :/

Conservation of momentum (m*v) means smaller piece had an initial velocity 7 times that of the larger, in opposite direction. Considering that stopping distance is proportional to initial velocity squared, I'll say the smaller piece traveled 7*7*6.5 meters = 318.5 meters.

/I like shortcuts.

282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:32:07am

re: #8 HelloDare

Igneous Shell, Maximilian Shell's younger brother and another fine Austrian actor.

G'day Mate! Let's put another shrimp on the barbie!

283 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:34:08am

re: #280 NYCHardhat

Good morning folks. You hear the one about Marine One plans finding their way into the hands of...Iran?

Yup, and did you see Bloomberg's ears perk up when he heard about this.

284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:35:10am

re: #269 goddessoftheclassroom

{Jim in Virginia}
{Fenway Nation}

I just learned that because of a wind-chill advisory, we have a 2 hour delay.

And I'm already awake and showered,

Sigh.

So, you mean I won't be greeted in the morning by the Goddess with, "Gotta run!"?

285 hypothetical truth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:35:41am

re: #281 abolitionist

Yeah, if the velocities started out the same (not looking at the conservation of energy yet) then it would be 7*length, then with P = m*v, but m is really 7m, so to make it the same, P = 7m*7v... fun problem, compared to all the others... lol..

Bed time
TTFN

286 abolitionist  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:36:19am

re: #280 NYCHardhat

Good morning folks. You hear the one about Marine One plans finding their way into the hands of...Iran?

Yeah, saw the headline. Rather not comment on it.

287 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:36:19am

re: #284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So, you mean I won't be greeted in the morning by the Goddess with, "Gotta run!"?

{FBV}

No, I'll get to hang out a bit longer this morning!

288 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:36:55am

re: #284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nope, she's just gonna saunter today.

289 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:37:41am

re: #280 NYCHardhat
Hardhat!
Como esta? Wie gehts?
Gotta run- too much work to do. Play safe y'all.

290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:40:21am

Moving 8 inches of snow yesterday makes me hurt today. I am so out of shape; of course, round is a shape.

291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:40:52am

re: #287 goddessoftheclassroom

So, what's the Musical this year, Goddess?

292 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:43:52am

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Moving 8 inches of snow yesterday makes me hurt today. I am so out of shape; of course, round is a shape.

Of course one wonders if there was any length or width to the 8 inches, or are you really that far gone?

293 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:44:23am

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So, what's the Musical this year, Goddess?

I'm so glad you asked!

We're doing a version fo George M. Cohan's Forty-Five Minutes from Broadway. We had our first dress rehearsal last night, and although there are still several things we need to polish, the kids did a great job. We have a really pit band to accompany the show. It's amazing for a junior high.

294 Tigger2005  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:45:03am

re: #5 Killian Bundy

will Obama be too proud ... to back off his ill timed, [expletive deleted] up, harmful agenda?

Yes.

295 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:48:49am

re: #292 Panhandler

Sorry.

Moving 8 inches (depth) of snow on my 30 yard (long) driveway that is 15 yards (wide); then moving the snow off of my sidewalk that is 15 yards (long) by 4 feet (wide) yesterday makes me hurt today...

296 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:49:40am

I wonder how much longer 0bama will keep throwing out the 'failed policies of the last eight years' meme...I mean if he keeps that shit up until 2012, he'll basically be 'fessin up to screwing the pooch for the duration of his administration...

297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:49:52am

re: #293 goddessoftheclassroom

Once it is all said and done...make sure that you show the kids "Yankee Doodle Dandy".

Gosh, Cagney's swell.

298 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:50:41am

re: #295 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And my friends in Montana ask me why I'm not moving back from Florida.

299 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:52:43am

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Moving 8 inches of snow yesterday makes me hurt today. I am so out of shape; of course, round is a shape.

Thats what ,,, 1 shovelfull !?!?!?!?

What did you do with the rest of it !?!?!?

300 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:53:09am

re: #292 Panhandler

GMTA (299)

301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:56:13am

re: #297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Goddess? Idea?

At curtain call, have one of your more capable students come to the front and give Cohan's signature goodnight...

"Ladies and Gentlemen? My mother thanks you; My father thanks you; My sister thanks you; and I thank you."

302 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:56:16am

re: #300 sattv4u2

Ah yes, but then I don't live in Atlanta so my bon mots are more hit or miss. Any trysts at Ms coming up?

303 Crux Australis  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:56:55am

re: #295 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks for reminding me. In a few weeks I'll be raking or sweeping up leaves.

///looking forward to it.

304 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:58:17am

re: #303 Crux Australis

At least they haven't burned.

Haven't heard lately. Australia still on fire?

305 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 3:59:06am

re: #301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Goddess? Idea?

At curtain call, have one of your more capable students come to the front and give Cohan's signature goodnight...

"Ladies and Gentlemen? My mother thanks you; My father thanks you; My sister thanks you; and I thank you."

It's in our adaptation!

306 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:00:27am

re: #302 Panhandler

Ah yes, but then I don't live in Atlanta so my bon mots are more hit or miss. Any trysts at Ms coming up?

Although I live in ATL, I spent many (45) a year shoveling 8 inches at a time as I was born and raised in Boston

307 NYCHardhat  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:00:56am

re: #283 Panhandler

Yup, and did you see Bloomberg's ears perk up when he heard about this.

OMG

308 Crux Australis  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:03:12am

re: #304 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

At least they haven't burned.

Haven't heard lately. Australia still on fire?

Yes, Parts of the state of Victoria are still burning. After more than 2 months! But I don't think it will last as the cooler weather comes in the next two or three months.

309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:06:23am

re: #305 goddessoftheclassroom

Neat-o!

310 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:09:09am

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Moving 8 inches of snow yesterday makes me hurt today. I am so out of shape; of course, round is a shape.

The aftermath of your efforts

311 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:10:22am

DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME ,,, I AM A PROFESSIONAL

312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:11:41am

Was just reading an article on Drudge about the White House parties. President Obama thanked some folks for waiting for him to leave before they started a "conga line".

My goodness. No self-respecting black man (nor fat bastard, for that matter) would be caught dead in a "conga line.

313 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:13:25am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was just reading an article on Drudge about the White House parties. President Obama thanked some folks for waiting for him to leave before they started a "conga line".

My goodness. No self-respecting black man (nor fat bastard, for that matter) would be caught dead in a "conga line.

Race shouldn't matter. 8-80, blind cripple or insane, men look like DORKS in those things!

314 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:15:12am

re: #313 sattv4u2

Dig it.

315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:16:27am

Lot's of cocktails being served at the White House these days. Sure hope folks have designated drivers.

316 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:16:29am

$50,000 a year to send your child to college so he/she can take courses such as these!

The 15 Strangest College Courses In America.

317 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:17:30am

re: #316 sattv4u2

Yeah, I got your "strange" right here.

318 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:18:43am

re: #316 sattv4u2

OOOPPPSSS ,, wrong cut/paste

TAKE 2 ,,,

The 15 Strangest College Courses In America.
[Link: www.onlinecolleges.net...]

319 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:19:36am

re: #317 Panhandler

Yeah, I got your "strange" right here.

Take 2 penicillins and call someone else in the morning!

//

320 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:24:25am

?

321 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:24:30am

Harry and his wife are having hard financial times, so they decide that she'll become a hooker. She's not quite sure what to do, so Harry says, "Stand in Front of that bar and pick up a guy. Tell him that you charge a hundred bucks. Any questions, I'll be parked around the corner."

She's standing there for 5 minutes when a guy pulls up and asks, "How much?" She says, "One hundred dollars." He says, "All I got is thirty". She says, "Hold on," and runs back to Harry and asks, "What can he get for thirty?" "A hand job," Harry replied.

She runs back and tells the guy all he gets for thirty quid is a hand job. He agrees. She gets in the car. He unzips his trousers, and out pops a HUGE smooth and very beautiful penis!

She stares at it for a minute, and then says, "I'll be right back."She runs back to Harry.

"What's wrong?" he asks, "Any chance you could lend this guy seventy bucks?!"

322 3 wood  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:24:43am

Good morning.

The futures are mixed and the Nikkei and Hang Seng dropped overnight.

I think we are likely to see the market rise a bit at the open if for no other reason but because there are so many bargains out there some folks will be bargain hunting.

The Dow is down over 18% and the S&P down 17.5% since Obama got sworn into office. February was the worst February of stock market losses since 1933. I have seen where some Obama supporters are dismissing the bloodbath, saying, well, it's not the Messiah's fault, the economy was messed up already.

It is my considered opinion that such people are deluding themselves, and I don't think understand how market work.

The market had priced in the then damage in October. But Obama's constant fear-mongering since election day has driven the risk factor up through the roof, thus driving much investment capital to the sidelines and causing many employers to decide to cut deep with layoffs to try to cut costs and survive.

The VIX has jumped in the last few weeks and the TED spread has also jumped back up, which are measures of fear factors in the market. That is 100% on Obama and his "catastrophe" talk and his promised tax increases. The "stimulus" package has almost no stimulus effect to it, and long run will be a drag on GDP.

Obama now owns this problem and has done a lot to make it worse.

323 Panhandler  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:25:40am

re: #319 sattv4u2

Take 2 penicillins and call someone else in the morning!

//

OTAY

324 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:26:56am

re: #322 3 wood

I firmly believe that anyone would have inherited this potential storm. It took talent to turn it into the maelstrom that it is.

325 summergurl  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:29:51am

re: #322 3 wood

Good morning.

The futures are mixed and the Nikkei and Hang Seng dropped overnight.

I think we are likely to see the market rise a bit at the open if for no other reason but because there are so many bargains out there some folks will be bargain hunting.

The Dow is down over 18% and the S&P down 17.5% since Obama got sworn into office. February was the worst February of stock market losses since 1933. I have seen where some Obama supporters are dismissing the bloodbath, saying, well, it's not the Messiah's fault, the economy was messed up already.

It is my considered opinion that such people are deluding themselves, and I don't think understand how market work.

The market had priced in the then damage in October. But Obama's constant fear-mongering since election day has driven the risk factor up through the roof, thus driving much investment capital to the sidelines and causing many employers to decide to cut deep with layoffs to try to cut costs and survive.

The VIX has jumped in the last few weeks and the TED spread has also jumped back up, which are measures of fear factors in the market. That is 100% on Obama and his "catastrophe" talk and his promised tax increases. The "stimulus" package has almost no stimulus effect to it, and long run will be a drag on GDP.

Obama now owns this problem and has done a lot to make it worse.

What's that saying? You break it you own it? He owns it.

326 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:30:19am

re: #322 3 wood

Obama now owns this problem and has done a lot to make it worse.

True, but he (and the MSM) are sticking to the ",,,because of the failed policies of the last 8 years" meme.

Whats not said by them (nor questioned) is during those last 8 years, at least 6.5 of them were very good to excellent economic times (very low unemployment rates ,,, slow and steady market climbs ,,, low to no inflation ,,,)

ahh ,, facts !

327 3 wood  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:31:11am

There's some real dumb folks at Harvard:

Harvard Accepts Higher Debt Costs as Bankers Profit

March 3 (Bloomberg) -- Harvard’s interest costs are set to increase as much as $550 million over three decades because the U.S.’s wealthiest and oldest university took advice from Goldman Sachs Group Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Morgan Stanley.

Earlier, those same Wall Street banks sold Harvard -- then led by Lawrence Summers, now an Obama administration adviser -- derivatives that soured. When that worsened a cash squeeze, they recommended that the AAA rated school pay as much as 1.41 percentage points more than yields on identically rated corporate debt for a $1.5 billion Dec. 5 bond sale. Five days later, they helped Harvard borrow $1 billion more at up to 5.80 percent -- to repay floating-rate debt that effectively cost it 3.4 percent.

I keep saying it over and over, these guys are not all that bright.

Just keep this in mind the next time you hear about how smart guys like Tim Geithner are supposed to be.

328 ThinkRight  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:33:00am

re: #322 3 wood

Obama now owns this problem and has done a lot to make it worse.


The truth
But the statute of limitations for blaming Bush will be at least 20 years
Obama took ownership of this on Nov 4th,and got the deed when he signed the stimulus bill
If I remember right the markets and business in general started tanking when he was nominated in the primaries ?

329 3 wood  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:33:33am

re: #325 summergurl

What's that saying? You break it you own it? He owns it.

I'm also saying, to even some who blog here regularly who voted for Obama and now are apologizing for him, to stop deluding yourself.

This guy has taken a bad situation and made it a lot worse.

330 3 wood  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:34:29am

re: #328 ThinkRight

If I remember right the markets and business in general started tanking when he was nominated in the primaries ?

Yes.

And you know that if the markets had gone up, the Obama worshipers would be giving him the credit.

331 ThinkRight  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:36:56am

re: #330 3 wood

Yes.

And you know that if the markets had gone up, the Obama worshipers would be giving him the credit.


The MSM and Democrats have that selective memory like most women

/ducking &hiding

332 3 wood  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:39:10am

Got to get ready for work.

Later.

333 ThinkRight  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:39:47am

re: #330 3 wood

Yes.

And you know that if the markets had gone up, the Obama worshipers would be giving him the credit.


The would not and could not go up with "O" not voting "Present" anymore

334 3 wood  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:40:24am

One last thing.

I just head on the radio that Geithner is testifying in Congress today.

Short sellers all over the world are now drooling.

Look for the market to drop this afternoon as soon as Geithner opens his mouth.

335 ThinkRight  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:41:03am

re: #332 3 wood

Got to get ready for work.

Later.


It will be a short day
The market stop losses will give you the afternoon off
LOL

336 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:45:06am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was just reading an article on Drudge about the White House parties. President Obama thanked some folks for waiting for him to leave before they started a "conga line".

My goodness. No self-respecting black man (nor fat bastard, for that matter) would be caught dead in a "conga line.

Conga-ing while Rome burned.

337 ThinkRight  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:47:09am

Newsweek: Radical Islam Is a Fact of Life- We Must Live With It

Barack Obama’s favorite foreign policy author Fareed Zakaria says its time we lived with radical Islam:

“Radical Islam is A Fact of Life. How To Live With it” Fareed Zakaria makes the controversial case for why the West needs to adopt a more “sophisticated strategy” toward Radical Islam.

This is the same guy who Obama looks to for guidance.

Barack Obama was reading, studying, and planning to be the leader of The Post-American World during the campaign.


Radical Islam Is a Fact of Life- We Must Live With It

338 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:53:48am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was just reading an article on Drudge about the White House parties. President Obama thanked some folks for waiting for him to leave before they started a "conga line".

My goodness. No self-respecting black man (nor fat bastard, for that matter) would be caught dead in a "conga line.

Fuck that racism.

339 Castlebravo  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:53:56am

Hey anybody:

As far as AIG getting yet another $60-70(?) BILLION, I spent the last three hours looking up AIG online. I spent alot of time on their website, and of course I didn't see anything other than "the stock price of 2007's performance was disappointing," among other comments.

As far as AIG getting all this money...it must be going somewhere. Somewhere, somebody's Swiss Bank Account is going UP.

While not a "conspiracy theorist," I'm attempting to follow the money. I checked names of the Corporate "leadership" against CRP.org, and came up blank.

All the names I came across serve not only AIG, but also have compensation from such Wall Street giants as Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs, etc.

As bad as this already is, with our money going down this pit, I think that there's, well, basically a robbery going on here. I half wonder if in my further research I'll see Jamie Gorelick's name on the AIG Board of Advisors...I wouldn't be surprised.

Does anybody know of any further links? I certainly think that the somebody in the Lizardoid Legions would have amplifying information.

Thanks!

CB

340 yochanan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:54:22am

re: #333 ThinkRight

The would not and could not go up with "O" not voting "Present" anymore

IF ALL THE CONGRESSC'ROOKS VOTED "PRESENT' IT MIGHT BE AN IMPROVEMENT.

341 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:56:47am

re: #339 Castlebravo

What is CRP.org?

342 gregg  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 4:57:59am

re: #326 sattv4u2

Obama now owns this problem and has done a lot to make it worse.

True, but he (and the MSM) are sticking to the ",,,because of the failed policies of the last 8 years" meme.

Obama and the MFM know he's responsible for the markets crashing, that's why all they can talk about right now is Rush, Rush, Rush. It's to distract the masses from the "Obama effect" on the markets.

343 monkeytime  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:00:49am

I guess this is what O meant by being "transparent". He will release to the public secret security policies under the Bush admin while he wouldn't even let us read the porkulus.

What a jerk

344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:01:13am

re: #338 MandyManners

You're right. I meant to take that out.

345 Castlebravo  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:02:41am

re: #341 MandyManners

I should have clarified; thanks, Mandy:

[Link: www.opensecrets.org...]

I type in crp.org and it reroutes me to this website...this website purports to "transparently" (that term is being used alot, lately, huh?) show campaign donations to Politicians, PACs, Committees, etc.

346 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:05:07am

re: #345 Castlebravo

It's easy to funnel money to a candidate without your name attached.

347 Mithrax  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:06:25am

Mornin Lizards.

Any Coffee about?

348 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:08:02am

Fox is going after Sebelius on her abortion angle. But, they just dance around the issue.

349 Castlebravo  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:08:38am

True...but I'm trying to follow the money. In this age of internet wizardry, surely I can dig up what's going on...the MSM isn't going to look. I'm fishing to see if anybody on here knows anything more. There was a headline in the news about how AIG won't disclose to whom it has distributed the money...it could just be that, given AIG insures everything from Mortgages to Pension Plans, that because the Stock market is crashing, claims on policies held by AIG are through the roof...which is one possible explanation ( I think the more likely one, too).

I'm looking to see if anybody else has any other possible explanations.

350 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:10:01am

re: #326 sattv4u2

Obama now owns this problem and has done a lot to make it worse.

True, but he (and the MSM) are sticking to the ",,,because of the failed policies of the last 8 years" meme.

Whats not said by them (nor questioned) is during those last 8 years, at least 6.5 of them were very good to excellent economic times (very low unemployment rates ,,, slow and steady market climbs ,,, low to no inflation ,,,)

ahh ,, facts !

Right about now the failed policies of the last 8 years look pretty damn good.

351 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:11:04am

re: #348 MandyManners

Fox is going after Sebelius on her abortion angle. But, they just dance around the issue.

Her angle is she's one who slipped through the cracks.

352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:14:56am

re: #351 soxfan4life

What do you mean? I wasn't watching...

353 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:17:52am

re: #352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What do you mean? I wasn't watching...

She should have been one. I don't believe in the government telling people what they can and cannot do, but she is a bigtime supporter of late term abortion. And that just seems wrong to me.If it has gone that far adoption is so much more humane and human.

354 DaddyG  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:19:26am

Speaking of stones - Simply Weed dropped another hit of his Munchie Manifesto on the Market Thread sometime around 3:00am.

Toasty!

355 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:19:50am

Someone yesterday posted about being tossed as a juror. He made a reference to the judge being African-American. So fucking what? It had absolutely no bearing on his story.

356 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:20:49am

re: #354 DaddyG

Dirty hippie. Gah!

357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:22:26am

re: #354 DaddyG

Did you see his other one?

Commie hippies are still commies.

358 DaddyG  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:23:25am

re: #357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did you see his other one?

Commie hippies are still commies.

Yup! The "lay of the bong water" reply made me laugh out loud.

359 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:24:42am

Fox interviewing another Great American Thinker.

360 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:24:55am

re: #355 MandyManners

Someone yesterday posted about being tossed as a juror. He made a reference to the judge being African-American. So fucking what? It had absolutely no bearing on his story.

Might as well get used to it. I figure as a white American male who is a combat vet, I'm pretty much public enemy number one during this administration.As long as the liberals feel good though, that is the important thing.

361 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:25:06am

Go touch-up your roots, Darylh Hannah. Fucking moonbat.

362 DaddyG  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:25:23am

Obama's Mommy was a Hippie Commie

363 ArmyWife  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:26:09am

good morning! Snowy and cold here. Today is D-day. I must decide about my new job offer. I didn't think this would be so hard! I'm comfortable at my old job, have a great house (well, if you don't count the gazillions it takes to keep a 250 year old house up to par), friends, family etc. The move is only 2.5 hours away, more money, challenging position (6 unions instead of 1!), south, and my husband could transfer to Ft. Lee. ARGHHH! I get paid to make decisions, why can't I just make one personally already!

364 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:26:22am

re: #360 soxfan4life

Might as well get used to it. I figure as a white American male who is a combat vet, I'm pretty much public enemy number one during this administration.As long as the liberals feel good though, that is the important thing.

Get used to WHAT? Bringing race up for no good reason is as old as the human condition.

365 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:26:48am

Gotta' get The Kid rolling. bbiab

366 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:26:54am

re: #361 MandyManners

Go touch-up your roots, Darylh Hannah. Fucking moonbat.


Do you believe that woman? 'Look at coal miner's facers. It's a dirty technology'.

Idiot.

367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:27:00am

re: #363 ArmyWife

COME TO VIRGINIA... COME TO VIRGINIA... COME TO VIRGINIA...

368 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:28:27am

re: #364 MandyManners

Get used to WHAT? Bringing race up for no good reason is as old as the human condition.

It will be beaten to death over the next 4 years. The press didn't even wait a week after the election before writing a story about racism still being alive and well.

369 yochanan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:29:08am

re: #346 MandyManners

It's easy to funnel money to a candidate without your name attached.

Take envelope, insert engraved portraits of dead white guys.
seal envelope, put in mail stream,

370 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:29:48am

Good morning all!

371 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:30:21am

re: #363 ArmyWife

good morning! Snowy and cold here. Today is D-day. I must decide about my new job offer. I didn't think this would be so hard! I'm comfortable at my old job, have a great house (well, if you don't count the gazillions it takes to keep a 250 year old house up to par), friends, family etc. The move is only 2.5 hours away, more money, challenging position (6 unions instead of 1!), south, and my husband could transfer to Ft. Lee. ARGHHH! I get paid to make decisions, why can't I just make one personally already!


What's not to like about Fort Leisure? VA is beautiful country.

372 vagabond trader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:30:28am

Oh brother, Amazon just sent me a heads up on a book called "Obama in Prophecy." I kid you not.

373 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:30:34am

re: #368 soxfan4life

It will be beaten to death over the next 4 years. The press didn't even wait a week after the election before writing a story about racism still being alive and well.

What I was talking about has NOTHING to do with CBBHO. This was a poster HERE.

374 Mithrax  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:30:58am

re: #370 Chicago Blonde

Morning CB, you have coffee don't you?

375 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:31:14am

re: #369 yochanan

Take envelope, insert engraved portraits of dead white guys.
seal envelope, put in mail stream,

Prepaid Visa ands Master Cards too.

376 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:31:39am

re: #374 Mithrax

Hi Mithrax! Cream and sugar too? :)

377 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:31:52am

re: #339 Castlebravo

Hello from sunny NYC, home of the meltdown formerly known as Wall Street! ;-)

Here's some "secret" information that explains why our government is pouring billions of dollars into the black hole otherwise known as AIG.

AIG insured millions of the mortgage-back subprime securities, otherwise known as the "toxic paper". When Wall Street designed the subprimes, it drafted language requiring insurance to "back up" the solvency of those obligations. AIG wrote the insurance. If AIG fails, the insurance disappears. And if the insurance fails, all of those securities go into default under the terms of their contracts.

Big banks are holding a lot of the toxic paper. They don't want to have to write off toxic paper that has defaulted under the contracts because of loss of insurance as bad debts. That might cause them to become insolvent, to go under, and to be seized by the FDIC. FDIC would then liquidate their assets, pay off the insured bank account holders, and close down the banks.

What do I think? It's all a very expensive fool's errand. These banks are insolvent. The FDIC should seize them and shut them down, putting an end to the entire sorry spectacle.

378 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:32:02am

Good morning, lizards.

I noticed this morning that someone made a pretty vile threat against Pam and her daughters over at AS (the CPAC thread).

Now make no mistake... I absolutely despise Pamela Geller for the way that she behaves and the way that she has treated others. With her questionable associations and allegiances of convenience I tend to say to her "you reap what you sow".

But on this one she deserves our support, and she has mine.

You cross the line when you wish death upon someones' children, and whoever made that threat should be tracked down, arrested and prosecuted.

379 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:32:16am

re: #373 MandyManners

What I was talking about has NOTHING to do with CBBHO. This was a poster HERE.

I'm saying that it will be a nationwide thing.

380 yesandno  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:32:23am

re: #8 HelloDare

Igneous Shell, Maximilian Shell's younger brother and another fine Austrian actor.

Rock on!

381 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:33:10am

re: #337 ThinkRight

Radical Islam Is a Fact of Life- We Must Live With It

My first reaction was to assume he meant we should lie back and try to enjoy the inevitable.

The actual article is better than that, though. FZ gives GWB credit for eventually developing a sophisticated approach in Iraq, which divides the local militants from the global jihadists.

I think the guy is a bit soft and sometimes overly optimistic, but he isn't stupid.

And after all, if we can't learn to coexist with Islam, then what are our choices? Conquer and forcibly convert them all, or be conquered ourselves? Radical Islam exists, and we have to deal with that without turning all of Islam into an active enemy, if we can.

382 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:33:11am

re: #372 vagabond trader

Oh brother, Amazon just sent me a heads up on a book called "Obama in Prophecy." I kid you not.

Is it a new joke book?

383 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:33:14am

re: #366 VioletTiger

Do you believe that woman? 'Look at coal miner's facers. It's a dirty technology'.

Idiot.

Of course Ducy and Kilnead are not exactly rocket scientists either.

Darryl is starting to look like Jennifer Cooledge (who is funnier and prettier).

384 Mithrax  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:33:18am

re: #376 Chicago Blonde

Hi Mithrax! Cream and sugar too? :)

Dear me no. Coffee must be enjoyed in it's pure, freshly perked form.

I once said to a waitress that I was flirting with, when asked that question, I said "Coffee must be enjoyed in it's pure form!"...she brought beans and an impish little smile.

Last time I ever flirt with a waitress, I tells ya!

385 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:33:35am

I woke up a bit later than I usually do - what goofy thing did Hannah say?

386 vagabond trader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:34:07am

re: #382 Leonidas Hoplite

You could call it that,eh?

387 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:34:46am

re: #384 Mithrax

I'm with you. I drink 2 cups of coffee every morning, usually no cream or sugar.

388 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:35:31am

re: #385 Chicago Blonde

I woke up a bit later than I usually do - what goofy thing did Hannah say?

"There's no such thing as clean coal. You ever seen a coal miners face? It's dirty."

or something like that.

389 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:35:51am

re: #377 quickjustice

Hello from sunny NYC, home of the meltdown formerly known as Wall Street! ;-)

Here's some "secret" information that explains why our government is pouring billions of dollars into the black hole otherwise known as AIG.

AIG insured millions of the mortgage-back subprime securities, otherwise known as the "toxic paper". When Wall Street designed the subprimes, it drafted language requiring insurance to "back up" the solvency of those obligations. AIG wrote the insurance. If AIG fails, the insurance disappears. And if the insurance fails, all of those securities go into default under the terms of their contracts.

Big banks are holding a lot of the toxic paper. They don't want to have to write off toxic paper that has defaulted under the contracts because of loss of insurance as bad debts. That might cause them to become insolvent, to go under, and to be seized by the FDIC. FDIC would then liquidate their assets, pay off the insured bank account holders, and close down the banks.

What do I think? It's all a very expensive fool's errand. These banks are insolvent. The FDIC should seize them and shut them down, putting an end to the entire sorry spectacle.

Aren't they already, effectively, insolvent? The only reason they haven't gone under is because of bailout money that doesn't really exist? If the FDIC seized them wouldn't that be the first, positive step toward recovery?

390 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:36:47am

re: #366 VioletTiger

Do you believe that woman? 'Look at coal miner's facers. It's a dirty technology'.

Idiot.

Gak. By her "logic," ethanol must be a dirty technology, too.

391 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:36:58am

re: #388 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Huh. Ask her about the technology & resources for the $1000 or more pearl cream she puts on her face.

392 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:37:31am

re: #388 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And thanks, FBV.

393 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:38:23am

re: #389 Leonidas Hoplite

I've already agreed with you! ;-)

394 ArmyWife  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:39:23am

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #371 soxfan4life

You guys are right. Virginia is great. A decision will be made no matter what by noon today, even if it involves asking the Magic 8 Ball.

395 Mithrax  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:39:51am

re: #394 ArmyWife

re: #371 soxfan4life

You guys are right. Virginia is great. A decision will be made no matter what by noon today, even if it involves asking the Magic 8 Ball.

Outlook not so good?

All signs point to yes?

396 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:40:19am

re: #347 Mithrax

Mr. faith and I have just fixed our much-loved percolator. (Finally found a used one to cannibalize for the parts we needed!) And I have just brewed a fresh pot. Dark roast.

Help yourself!

397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:41:06am

re: #396 lurking faith

Perked coffee is very good. Drip coffee is easier.

Easier wins in my house.

398 Mithrax  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:41:23am

re: #396 lurking faith

Mr. faith and I have just fixed our much-loved percolator. (Finally found a used one to cannibalize for the parts we needed!) And I have just brewed a fresh pot. Dark roast.

Help yourself!

thanks!

I'll need it. First week of the month now, so our food bank will be innundated by new registrees today.

399 nyc redneck  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:41:32am

re: #391 Chicago Blonde

Huh. Ask her about the technology & resources for the $1000 or more pearl cream she puts on her face.

not many liberals live by the "principles" they spew.
they are exempt from compliance.
their function is to lecture and enlighten us, so they can feel just terrific abt. themselves.

400 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:42:13am

re: #394 ArmyWife

re: #371 soxfan4life

You guys are right. Virginia is great. A decision will be made no matter what by noon today, even if it involves asking the Magic 8 Ball.

Good luck and God bless whatever the decision.

401 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:43:10am

re: #397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Perked coffee is very good. Drip coffee is easier.

Easier wins in my house.

I just bought one of them eye-talion stovetop espresso makers...for some reason I prefer that for an afternoon cup of joe versus my drip maker in the morning.

402 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:44:07am

re: #399 nyc redneck

not many liberals live by the "principles" they spew.
they are exempt from compliance.
their function is to lecture and enlighten us, so they can feel just terrific abt. themselves.

The ultimate do as I say not as I do crowd. Taxes, green living, etc...

403 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:44:26am

re: #399 nyc redneck

not many liberals live by the "principles" they spew.
they are exempt from compliance.
their function is to lecture and enlighten us, so they can feel just terrific abt. themselves.

Oh I know. That wouldn't stop me from cheerfully asking a lib about it if they say anything to me. Tilda Swinton burbled something about communism not being a bad idea. I wish someone asked her if she'd give up her jewelry and vacation homes for the party.

404 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:44:44am

Sounds like a fair deal...

You help us with Iran, we'll end that silly missile defense shield idea...

What could go wrong?

405 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:45:27am

re: #401 Leonidas Hoplite

We have drip with timer so I can wake up to a pot of fresh coffee. Mmmm... :)

406 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:45:47am

re: #403 Chicago Blonde

Oh I know. That wouldn't stop me from cheerfully asking a lib about it if they say anything to me. Tilda Swinton burbled something about communism not being a bad idea. I wish someone asked her if she'd give up her jewelry and vacation homes for the party.

It appears she was perfectly cast as the Ice Queen in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe...

407 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:46:14am

re: #397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have coffee and a cat waiting for me in the morning.
You have wake and cake, I have perk and purr. :)

408 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:46:53am

re: #397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ah, but I can make a good 12-cup pot of perked coffee with 5 scoops of grounds, where I would need 6 scoops for a decent 12-cup pot of drip coffee.

The way we go through coffee in the faith household, saving a scoop per pot is not insignificant!

409 vagabond trader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:47:28am

re: #403 Chicago Blonde

Liberals like this think of themselves as the ruling elite, never the cannon fodder proletariat.

410 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:48:07am

re: #406 Leonidas Hoplite

It appears she was perfectly cast as the Ice Queen in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe...

Yeah, I thought that too. There was a picture of her wearing a matching bracelet and necklace that would probably pay off a medium-sized house, but she thinks communism is "interesting".

I try to avoid her movies...

411 Timbre  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:48:56am

re: #399 nyc redneck

not many liberals live by the "principles" they spew.
they are exempt from compliance.
their function is to lecture and enlighten us, so they can feel just terrific abt. themselves.

Sociopaths (from what I;ve learned at work) function the same way. "Rules are for suckers, not for me...I'm special..."

412 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:49:13am

re: #409 vagabond trader

Liberals like this think of themselves as the ruling elite, never the cannon fodder proletariat.

If enough people would have the guts to publicly ask them what they'd give up for the planet or party or whatever, maybe we'd be able to shut them up.

413 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:49:55am

re: #389 Leonidas Hoplite

Another way to say it: The Treasury and the Fed are sticking their fingers and toes into a very leaky dike. They're trying to avoid defaults on subprime contracts that would trigger legal consequences for the holders of the toxic paper (the big banks).

I believe that most of the toxic paper is worthless. There may be some performing mortgages in each portfolio, but you can estimate value by taking the cash flows to present value.

Treasury and the Fed's strategy is failing. Forcing the issue by requiring mark to market value of toxic assets (market value may be zero in many cases), and FDIC seizure of banks rendered insolvent by mark to market value will cause bank closures, more unemployment, and short-term pain, but also will enable longer term recovery by restoring investor confidence that they can trust the banks' financial statements. Right now, no one believes the banks' financial statements, which are loaded up with toxic assets.

414 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:50:04am

re: #405 Chicago Blonde
Percolator with timer is good, too. :)

The only thing I miss about a drip coffee maker is being able to grab a cup before the whole pot is done brewing.

415 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:50:35am

Again, I draw your attention to my #378.
If anyone has a clue who this cretin might be, speak up.

416 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:51:21am

re: #414 lurking faith

Percolator with timer is good, too. :)

The only thing I miss about a drip coffee maker is being able to grab a cup before the whole pot is done brewing.

Yeah, that's an issue - I'm not exactly patient about that.

417 ThinkRight  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:51:24am

Obama hints missile shield flexibility to Moscow

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama has written to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev suggesting U.S. plans for a missile defense system in Eastern Europe might be unnecessary if Moscow helped in blocking Iran's progress toward building long-range missiles, senior administration officials said on Tuesday.
Plans for deploying U.S. missile defenses in Poland and the Czech Republic, ostensibly to guard against Iranian attacks on U.S. allies in Europe, are among a host of issues that soured U.S.-Russia relations during the former Bush administration. There have been indications Obama, who has vowed to shake up American foreign policy, might be willing to set aside the missile defense system.


Obama hints missile shield flexibility to Moscow
Appeasement anyone ?
We are soo screwed
Putin has a boner now

418 mph  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:51:36am

Nice to see Eastern Europe getting thrown under the bus for Russia's sake.

419 vagabond trader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:53:55am

re: #418 mph

With the desperate economic situation in Eastern Europe, this does not bode well. No surprise if you see an unhealthy surge in Nationalism.

420 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:56:00am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}


Must say I'm shocked and very sad that those scumbags attacked the Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore - I was too busy at work to catch up on news and then I went straight to my daughter's new place to help her unpack a zillion boxes of stuff

She hasn't connected her telly yet, and can't find her radio - so I just heard the news on my car radio on the way home

As DocDale said upthread, this is HUGE as cricket is a religion on the subcontinent - I just don't know if Mr and Mrs Ordinary Pakistani can do anything about the Talibanisation of their country and if they really want to either

From the Herald Sun, with some good stories if anyone is interested in this latest outrage from the ROP...

As a cricket fan, I find this just awfully sad, and also now I'm totally over this murderous cult masquerading as a religion

421 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:56:10am

re: #417 ThinkRight

Obama hints missile shield flexibility to Moscow


Obama hints missile shield flexibility to Moscow
Appeasement anyone ?
We are soo screwed
Putin has a boner now

How long until we're ruled by the politburo? Every day under this fool makes Kruschevs threat look more like reality.

422 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:57:00am

re: #417 ThinkRight

Thank you for posting that, ThinkRight.

423 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:57:34am

this was missed from last week?...Kerry goes after G Will...seems kinda unfair


[Link: foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com...]

424 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:59:03am

re: #415 Irish Rose

I don't wish unearned suffering upon any of G-d's creatures, but when you take the public stage as aggressively as Pam has, you open yourself up to attacks from hateful and spiteful creatures, some of them unhinged, and a few outright dangerous. Charles has suffered such threats.

I'm in no way condoning threats against Pam's family. I hope that she reports them to the authorities, who follow up with prosecution. I am saying that she's a lightening rod for criticism for reasons at least partially of her own making.

425 republic  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:59:05am

re: #417 ThinkRight

Obama hints missile shield flexibility to Moscow


Obama hints missile shield flexibility to Moscow
Appeasement anyone ?
We are soo screwed
Putin has a boner now

The most sad thing about this, and this clearly shows Obama's complete lack of experience at world affairs, is that no matter what Obama may propose to Putin, Russia is not going to give up her biggest cash cow, which is Iran.

It's like the Oil for Food scam, Russia is getting too much money from Iran, and Putin will not do anything to stop that flow of cash, which basicly means that Putin will talk a good game with Obama, and Russia may get her wish of no missile defense, but she is not going to slow Iran down, because Iran is Russia's cash cow.

Common sense is leaving the world a warp speed.

426 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:59:44am

re: #363 ArmyWife

good morning! Snowy and cold here. Today is D-day. I must decide about my new job offer. I didn't think this would be so hard! I'm comfortable at my old job, have a great house (well, if you don't count the gazillions it takes to keep a 250 year old house up to par), friends, family etc. The move is only 2.5 hours away, more money, challenging position (6 unions instead of 1!), south, and my husband could transfer to Ft. Lee. ARGHHH! I get paid to make decisions, why can't I just make one personally already!

Good Luck! I hope whichever decision you make works well for you and your family!

427 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 5:59:56am

Climate of Fear Spreads In California Mosques...heh

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

428 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:00:28am

re: #415 Irish Rose

Hiya Rose. I have no idea what you are talking about.

429 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:01:09am

re: #420 aussiemagpie

Good morning, Aussiemagpie. What a tragedy.

430 Wishing  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:02:39am

Good morning, all!
Have you seen this?
US to send envoys to Syria

431 Wishing  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:04:18am

Hillary Clinton: learn to hate her, if you don't already, that is...

432 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:05:10am

The bears fist remains clenched. Obama spills syrup on his waffle.

433 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:06:26am

re: #432 filetandrelease

The bears fist remains clenched. Obama spills syrup on his waffle.

Will he hand over an eastern portion of his western waffle?

434 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:06:35am

Good morning!

So, we see how frantic Barry gets with piddling economic things to deal with... what's going to happen when something real with people getting killed occurs?

And how will this impact the waffle industry?

435 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:07:11am

re: #430 Wishing

Good morning, all!
Have you seen this?
US to send envoys to Syria

bastards...no good will come of it...they never learn (hallmark of liberals)

436 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:08:27am

re: #433 Chicago Blonde

Will he hand over an eastern portion of his western waffle?


I fear he will hand over the entire plate.

437 yesandno  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:08:41am

re: #313 sattv4u2

Race shouldn't matter. 8-80, blind cripple or insane, men look like DORKS in those things!

The real truth about conga lines...check the YouTube vid on the bottom.
[Link: www.rightpundits.com...]

438 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:08:47am

re: #425 republic

The most sad thing about this, and this clearly shows Obama's complete lack of experience at world affairs, is that no matter what Obama may propose to Putin, Russia is not going to give up her biggest cash cow, which is Iran.

It's like the Oil for Food scam, Russia is getting too much money from Iran, and Putin will not do anything to stop that flow of cash, which basicly means that Putin will talk a good game with Obama, and Russia may get her wish of no missile defense, but she is not going to slow Iran down, because Iran is Russia's cash cow.

Common sense is leaving the world a warp speed.

it's all about the Mullahs...no Mullahs no problem

439 Wishing  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:09:11am

The zero is climbing into bed with these thugs, and guess who will suffer DIRECTLY?
Israel of course. Eastern Europe is already under the bus, make room for company!

440 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:09:41am

re: #436 filetandrelease

I fear he will hand over the entire plate.

And lunch money.

441 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:09:58am

BTW, if you saw 24 last night and if you've been watching all season, this really is the BEST season of 24 in a long, long time...

442 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:10:07am

Many tasks call, including computer maintenance.

BBL unless I totally crash the thing.

443 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:10:34am

re: #429 Chicago Blonde

Good morning, Aussiemagpie. What a tragedy.

Hi {Chicago Blonde}

Yes it certainly is - eight people dead and cricketers injured

The coach of the Sri Lankans is an Aussie and he was slightly injured, and the two umpires for the match were Aussies as well

Andrew Bolt, a very popular Aussie journo and who has a great blog asks:

I think the apologists are running out of excuses. The US, we were told, brought 9-11 on itself through its aggression. We invited Bali on ourselves by siding with the US. India provoked the Mumbai slaughter by discriminating against Muslims. But the Sri Lankans? How on earth can even the barking mad blame them for this? Now, can we start discussing the role of Islam in political violence, and without the usual shut-ups of “racist!”.

444 ThinkRight  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:12:59am

re: #441 tfc3rid

BTW, if you saw 24 last night and if you've been watching all season, this really is the BEST season of 24 in a long, long time...


Never Miss it
Jack and the FBI chick are gonna hook up
Will she die the like all his other women ?

445 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:13:15am

re: #418 mph

Nice to see Eastern Europe getting thrown under the bus for Russia's sake.

This is really a tragedy. So many people in Eastern Europe looked up to the US as a beacon during the dark years of Soviet oppression and once that yoke was thrown off, they naturally sought to ally themselves with other freedom-loving people, principally us.

As a block many had embraced true free-market and free-people ideas (just generalizing here I'm sure the whole region isn't a Garden of Eden) that would be natural after having endured decades of tyranny and statist socialism. I believe this had (and may still have) the potential to throw some light on the lunacy that socialism represents elsewhere in Europe. And, if the economies were successful enough and took jobs and began to supplant France and Germany (again, more as a block) then maybe these countries would begin to shed their socialist societies.

Now here come Obama, the enemy of personal liberty just like all liberals everywhere, and he thinks that by trading missile defense for help with DinnerJacket we will make ourselves a whole bunch of friends? Obama is a rank amatuer and is in way over his head. Old Europe will throw the US under the bus just as soon as it suits them - just watch, as soon as Iran lights off thier first nuclear weapon they will be tripping over themselves to get to Tehran with containers ships full of tribute.

In the meantime, we will be once again squandering/sacrificing the newly won freedoms of entire nations of people in the name of 'realpolitik'. Just like Neville Chamberlain and Edouard Deladier.

446 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:14:00am

re: #443 aussiemagpie

It's infuriating - no matter what it's twisted to be our fault, isn't it?

Good on Andrew Bolt

447 yochanan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:14:35am

re: #443 aussiemagpie

could you explain cricket to us YANKS?

448 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:14:41am

re: #444 ThinkRight

Never Miss it
Jack and the FBI chick are gonna hook up
Will she die the like all his other women ?

No idea... But she is becoming a female Jack Bauer... The transformation is very interesting...

The White House takeover is giving me Vince Flynn flashbacks... Except this time, Mitch Rapp isn't in hiding...

449 republic  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:15:33am

re: #434 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Good morning!

So, we see how frantic Barry gets with piddling economic things to deal with... what's going to happen when something real with people getting killed occurs?

And how will this impact the waffle industry?

Obama will use anything to further their kook leftist agenda. Everything bad that happens to America, is just another feather in Obama's marxist hat.

Obama knows exactly what he is doing with the economy, it is straight out of Alinsky's ideology.

Worldy affairs is quite a different story, Obama will get humiliated time and time again with the likes of Putin and Ahmadinnerjacket.

Never forget William Ayers FBI taped conversations, where Ayers specificly states, "that as many as 1/4 of all Americans may need to be eliminated because they won't go through the re-education camps"

Obama was born and raised in that belief, just watch it happen before your very eyes.

The best thing for Obama's kook agenda, is if something bad, or many bad things happen to America, just look at the economy for one instance.

Obama swore an oath to Alinsky, not America or the Constitution.

Just watch.

450 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:16:12am

Obama throws out Eastern Suropean allies under the bus now...

Does he hate America? Does he hate prosperity? Does he hate the inherent goodness of the American people?

I thought he would be a disaster but I never could have imagined all this...

451 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:16:20am

How Low Can the Market Go? Obama’s Plans Ride on the Answer[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

for the non believers...is this intentional or not?

452 Wishing  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:16:50am

re: #450 tfc3rid

Does he hate America? Does he hate prosperity? Does he hate the inherent goodness of the American people?

Yes.

453 bellamags  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:16:55am

If anyone can get me a cappuccino from S-bux, I will pay them $100.

454 republic  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:17:22am

re: #438 albusteve

it's all about the Mullahs...no Mullahs no problem

As long as Putin is getting billions, he won't seriously attempt to slow Iran down.

Just watch.

455 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:17:29am

re: #425 republic

The money Russia gets from Iran in payment for nuclear technology and weapons systems is nothing compared to the money Russia makes by destabilizing the Middle East. Anything that pushes the price of oil and gas higher makes billions of rubles for Moscow. Even better, the possibility of oil supply uncertainty from the Gulf makes the Western Europeans more compliant when buying energy contracts from Russia. It is not in Russia's interest to pursue peace and stability.

456 ThinkRight  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:17:47am

re: #448 tfc3rid

No idea... But she is becoming a female Jack Bauer... The transformation is very interesting...

The White House takeover is giving me Vince Flynn flashbacks... Except this time, Mitch Rapp isn't in hiding...


I am getting confused
It is like reality TV now
Our White House was taken over by radical domestic terrorist on Jan 20th
24 Reality or Fiction ?

457 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:17:53am

re: #445 Leonidas Hoplite
That is a real heart breaker. They must be mortified.

458 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:18:50am

re: #424 quickjustice

I know this, and I absolutely agree.

It's one thing to be threatened personally... when your children are threatened, however, it's an entirely different matter. And I would hope that we can all agree on that, even if we don't agree on other matters. Threatening innocent children is vile, and standing up to it is the decent and civil thing to do.

I'm mentioning this because she has posted an IP address and other information about the cretin.

Enough said.

459 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:19:32am

re: #454 republic

As long as Putin is getting billions, he won't seriously attempt to slow Iran down.

Just watch.

he will BO like a fiddle...reactor, no reactor...missles, no missles

460 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:19:35am

re: #441 tfc3rid

BTW, if you saw 24 last night and if you've been watching all season, this really is the BEST season of 24 in a long, long time...

Yes, this season is far better than the last couple.

/but I did almost throw a show at the TV when Jack Bauer told me how hard the 24 Crew tries to be green.

461 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:19:40am

The Eastern Europeans understand what it is to live under communism and Soviet oppression. So do the Cuban exiles.

Obama's too smart not to understand this. It just isn't important to him. He doesn't care about old-fashioned notions of liberty. He doesn't go along with Wilsonian internationalism. America isn't an exceptional country in his eyes. And he will do his best to remake us in his image, with Reid and Pelosi's help.

462 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:20:57am

re: #461 quickjustice

America isn't an exceptional country in his eyes.

Too bad 52% of us couldn't see that.

463 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:21:42am

re: #454 republic

As long as Putin is getting billions, he won't seriously attempt to slow Iran down.

Just watch.


Russia already said NO to the One. It took several minutes of deep laughter, errr analysis for them to come to this surprising conclusion.

464 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:22:24am

re: #456 ThinkRight


I am getting confused
It is like reality TV now
Our White House was taken over by radical domestic terrorist on Jan 20th
24 Reality or Fiction ?

SPOILER ALERT:
The White House was invaded and taken over by a deposed African General (in the vein of the Solmali's) and his thugs...

They are holding hostages and the President... They are going to try and kill her... Jack Bauer is one of the hostages...

Loved when Jack Bauer was torturing the traitor thug with the taser...

465 Wishing  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:22:46am

re: #451 albusteve

How Low Can the Market Go? Obama’s Plans Ride on the Answer[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

for the non believers...is this intentional or not?

snip: The economic panic which is now sweeping the markets has the effect both of upsetting Obama’s grandiose plans and undoing his new “permanent” Democratic majority. And so, the question “How low?” may become an increasingly critical query for the president. His agenda and his party’s political fortunes are riding on the answer.

May they forever be trashed!

466 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:23:01am

re: #460 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yes, this season is far better than the last couple.

/but I did almost throw a show at the TV when Jack Bauer told me how hard the 24 Crew tries to be green.

Greenest show on TV...

467 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:23:45am

re: #466 tfc3rid

Greenest show on TV...

Not since Kermit the Frog left after Season 2 ...

/

468 jorline  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:24:12am

Good morning, Lizards.

469 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:24:41am

re: #468 jorline

Good morning, Lizards.

How's the coffee this morning, jorline?

470 republic  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:25:20am

re: #463 filetandrelease

Russia already said NO to the One. It took several minutes of deep laughter, errr analysis for them to come to this surprising conclusion.

I have, for a time now, looked back on Pres. Bush's 8 years, warts, mistakes, and blunders and all, and said, "those were the good ol days."

471 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:25:55am

re: #427 albusteve

Climate of Fear Spreads In California Mosques...heh

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

Good. Keep on them, FBI.

472 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:26:22am

re: #465 Wishing

snip: The economic panic which is now sweeping the markets has the effect both of upsetting Obama’s grandiose plans and undoing his new “permanent” Democratic majority. And so, the question “How low?” may become an increasingly critical query for the president. His agenda and his party’s political fortunes are riding on the answer.

May they forever be trashed!

I disagree. Obama's plans are furthered by economic chaos. The goal is to bring the country to its knees, put it in its racist place, and bring about change to a socialist-communist state that pays its dues to its underprivileged.

473 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:26:35am

re: #446 Chicago Blonde

It's infuriating - no matter what it's twisted to be our fault, isn't it?

Good on Andrew Bolt

I love his blog - it's a must read each day for me - great posts about everything, including the GW/Climate Change/Extreme Weather scam

Andrew Bolt
Andrew Bolt

474 Stonemason  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:26:38am

re: #452 Wishing

Does he hate America? Does he hate prosperity? Does he hate the inherent goodness of the American people?

Yes.

When will these questions we ask, constantly, no longer need to be asked? When will it become apparent that he is Naive/dumb, or really and truly hates America?
Can it be a little of both? Am I too close to the issue that I am seeing things incorrectly?

475 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:27:00am

re: #463 filetandrelease

Russia already said NO to the One. It took several minutes of deep laughter, errr analysis for them to come to this surprising conclusion.

Didn't they get the memo, those who say no to the One are racist and stupid.//

476 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:27:03am

more BO bashing from USA Today...he's getting hammered from everywhere

[Link: blogs.usatoday.com...]

477 jorline  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:27:22am

Nothing starts the day on the right foot like a healthy...Fuck Off from Russia.

RUSSIA BRUSHES OFF OBAMA: NO 'HAGGLING'

Speaking at a joint press conference with Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero in Madrid, Medvedev welcomed the 'positive signals' coming from the Obama administration with which he hoped to reach 'agreements.'

'Haggling,' however, was not 'productive,' Medvedev said.

478 Wishing  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:27:30am

re: #472 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I disagree. Obama's plans are furthered by economic chaos. The goal is to bring the country to its knees, put it in its racist place, and bring about change to a socialist-communist state that pays its dues to its underprivileged.

I think he will have to keep a majority in both Houses to do that. I believe this is the point of the article: bad enough damage, he loses one or both.

479 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:27:43am

re: #420 aussiemagpie

Awful, just awful. Good morning, aussie. Has the fire danger passed in Oz?

480 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:27:49am

re: #474 Stonemason

I ask them because I cannot fathom that some people believe he is doing really good work...

481 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:28:15am

re: #379 soxfan4life

I'm saying that it will be a nationwide thing.

WILL BE? Hell, people have been doing this for ages.

482 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:28:40am

re: #477 jorline

Haggling is not productive... But submission would be welcomed.

483 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:29:20am

re: #482 tfc3rid

Haggling is not productive... But submission would be welcomed.

Bend over, Barack (and us).

484 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:29:45am

re: #472 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I disagree. Obama's plans are furthered by economic chaos. The goal is to bring the country to its knees, put it in its racist place, and bring about change to a socialist-communist state that pays its dues to its underprivileged.

Yes. That is one of the trademarks of a communist - to dismantle the 'old' society and make it completely anew. Economic and international chaos makes that easier.

485 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:29:52am

re: #470 republic

I have, for a time now, looked back on Pres. Bush's 8 years, warts, mistakes, and blunders and all, and said, "those were the good ol days."


Sadly, that conclusion also took just several minutes but with out the laughter.

486 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:30:00am

re: #472 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I disagree. Obama's plans are furthered by economic chaos. The goal is to bring the country to its knees, put it in its racist place, and bring about change to a socialist-communist state that pays its dues to its underprivileged.

the question is will he over reach?...it may be that he has...there are hearings scheduled in congress today regarding his budget...

487 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:30:42am

re: #473 aussiemagpie

Me too. First thing I do after feeding the cats and getting coffee is visit here. Besides just enjoying the posts from people who have the same worries (and warped humor) I do, I learn all I can. I'd never heard of Cloward-Piven if I hadn't found this site.

And thank you for the Andrew Bolt link.

488 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:31:05am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone doing this fine but chilly day?

489 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:31:13am

re: #471 Ward Cleaver

Good. Keep on them, FBI.

the FBI spreading fear and terror throughout the Moslem world!

490 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:31:13am

re: #481 MandyManners

WILL BE? Hell, people have been doing this for ages.

When raised to be a victim, they cannot seem to rise above it, and constantly attack those who do. Constantly whine about being controlled by the man and doing nothing to stop it. Now we have a black man as the highest official in the land yet somehow we as a country are still oppressing them.

491 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:31:22am

re: #476 albusteve

more BO bashing from USA Today...he's getting hammered from everywhere

[Link: blogs.usatoday.com...]

Guess that means he'll have to up to ante on objectifying and demonizing Rush, then.

492 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:31:24am

re: #472 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I disagree. Obama's plans are furthered by economic chaos. The goal is to bring the country to its knees, put it in its racist place, and bring about change to a socialist-communist state that pays its dues to its underprivileged.

It's easier to create poor people who NEED you than rich people who like you.

493 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:31:29am

re: #488 HoosierHoops

Worried. Dealing. Posting. Coffee-ing.

How are you?

494 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:31:32am

re: #447 yochanan

could you explain cricket to us YANKS?

Hi there :-)

Got a few days spare?

Cricket Australia

And for what it is...good old Wiki

There is a really funny version somewhere in my messy files and I'll try to find it for you

495 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:31:36am

re: #486 albusteve

the question is will he over reach?...it may be that he has...there are hearings scheduled in congress today regarding his budget...

Does this just translate into 'how can I get more pork for my district and protect my phoney-baloney job'?

496 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:32:01am

Obama, Russia & Missile Defense

Obama's proposal raises a number of interesting issues:
- it's a tacit admission that missile defense is effective enough to be considered a bargaining chip. Otherwise BHO would not be offering to sacrifice it.
- non-deployment of the US missile defense system is much easier to verify that Russian compliance with the potential deal

A second set of issues emerges if the Obama administration plans to deploy an advanced ABM radar in Russia, as the NYT describes. Quite apart from letting the Russians know how it works, it doesn’t protect the US or Western Europe from an Iranian attack made by arrangement with Moscow. It would give Russia long-term leverage over the security of the West against rogue nuclear weapons. It would hand them a chip they could use to negotiate against the US down the track. It is a little bit like supplying the noose you may be hung in. And if Moscow never arranges to collude with Teheran, it will have a de facto veto over the facility’s use, just as host countries have wherever American installations exist. Whether or not the US gives Russia the right to flip the switch on the facility, the fact of its location within Russia means the Kremlin will effectively have the power to shut it down. They could, for instance, simply put an artillery round on the radome, in the extreme.

Finally, the offer by the Obama admin fails to consider the basic fact that Russia does not benefit from increased stability. Quite the contrary, the greater the instability, the more money Russia makes from the resulting rise in energy prices.

497 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:32:19am

re: #486 albusteve

the question is will he over reach?...it may be that he has...there are hearings scheduled in congress today regarding his budget...

We can only hope hat reality slaps him upside the head and puts and end to this Alinsky nightmare scenario.

498 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:33:30am

re: #497 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

We can only hope hat reality slaps him upside the head and puts and end to this Alinsky nightmare scenario.

When reality is Pelosi and Reid ...

499 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:33:45am

Mandy, didn't you see where The Bear poked The One in the eye this morning? I'm waiting.

500 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:33:56am

re: #443 aussiemagpie

Do you have a link to his blog? Sounds like a good bloke and could us some traffic.

501 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:34:19am

re: #493 Chicago Blonde

Worried. Dealing. Posting. Coffee-ing.

How are you?

Hi Blonde! Doing wonderful today myself..although the 3 cups of house blend has me a tad bit over caffenated...

502 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:34:30am

re: #495 Leonidas Hoplite

Does this just translate into 'how can I get more pork for my district and protect my phoney-baloney job'?

And the MSM will report yet again that this pork laden budget is Bush's fault. President Obama didn't wwant to sign it, but the failed policies of the last 8 years left him no choice. Fuck it, bring back the failed policies of the last 8 years.

503 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:34:52am

A little dead cat bounce in the market this morning...

504 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:35:06am

re: #495 Leonidas Hoplite

Does this just translate into 'how can I get more pork for my district and protect my phoney-baloney job'?

don't underestimate the house GOP...these guys are playing hardball...we'll see...I have alot of respect for them after the Pork vote

505 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:35:54am

re: #498 OldLineTexan

When reality is Pelosi and Reid ...

Naw, reality is us and the outside world. Dramatically falling approval numbers (down to ChimpyMcBushitler levels) in the next few months will be a nice wake up call. Even the MSM won't be able to cover that up.

506 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:36:05am

re: #504 albusteve

don't underestimate the house GOP...these guys are playing hardball...we'll see...I have alot of respect for them after the Pork vote

So all we need now are some Republicans who can do good work when they're in the MAJORITY.

/

507 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:36:20am

re: #504 albusteve

don't underestimate the house GOP...these guys are playing hardball...we'll see...I have alot of respect for them after the Pork vote

Snow, Collins, and Specter will just cave to whatever Reid and Obama want them to do.

508 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:36:44am

re: #479 Ward Cleaver

Awful, just awful. Good morning, aussie. Has the fire danger passed in Oz?

Hello {Ward} - the weather was expected to be bad in Victoria yesterday, but the conditions for a firestorm didn't eventuate thank goodness - it started raining too

All the fires still burning are under control..

Best wishes to June :-)

509 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:37:22am

re: #501 HoosierHoops

Glad you're doing wonderful! I've had my two huge cups of coffee so I'm awake now. "Awake" and "ready" are two different things though. :)

510 ArmyWife  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:37:45am

I'm going to go do some laundry and try to be somewhat useful as I've decided to work from home today. I'll check in later - and let you guys know what the 8 ball says!

511 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:38:17am
512 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:38:52am

re: #497 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

We can only hope hat reality slaps him upside the head and puts and end to this Alinsky nightmare scenario.

blindsided, sucker punched, stabbed in the back, knee capped, turned on, questioned, called out, it all adds up...he cannot deal with shit coming from all sides and eventually he will blow...I hope anyway...taken down a notch at a time

513 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:38:58am

re: #508 aussiemagpie

Hello {Ward} - the weather was expected to be bad in Victoria yesterday, but the conditions for a firestorm didn't eventuate thank goodness - it started raining too

All the fires still burning are under control..

Best wishes to June :-)

Thanks aussie.

514 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:39:02am

re: #505 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Naw, reality is us and the outside world. Dramatically falling approval numbers (down to ChimpyMcBushitler levels) in the next few months will be a nice wake up call. Even the MSM won't be able to cover that up.

Is he going to bargain his budget with you and me, or is he going to bargain his budget with his own Party leaders?

The MSM will stand by as instructed. Obama's administration has thin skin, but they do not appear to REact ... they appear (IMO) to act to a plan, and in concert.

The President will appear on TV, shovel some more Bolshevik, and the MSM will instruct the masses on how to get in line for some sweet Obama pie.

515 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:39:31am

re: #511 Kenneth

So what are you giving up for Lent?

That was brilliant!

516 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:39:40am

re: #490 soxfan4life

Here's the post. You tell me if it was a gratuitous reference.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

517 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:39:57am

re: #511 Kenneth

So what are you giving up for Lent?

June and I have given up alcoholic beverages for Lent.

518 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:40:00am

re: #509 Chicago Blonde

Glad you're doing wonderful! I've had my two huge cups of coffee so I'm awake now. "Awake" and "ready" are two different things though. :)

I'm already ready..It's whether I'm willing or not that counts..
:)

519 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:40:02am

re: #487 Chicago Blonde

Me too. First thing I do after feeding the cats and getting coffee is visit here. Besides just enjoying the posts from people who have the same worries (and warped humor) I do, I learn all I can. I'd never heard of Cloward-Piven if I hadn't found this site.

And thank you for the Andrew Bolt link.

Yes, if I'd stuck to just reading the papers and watching Skynews and Fox, I would be in the dark...thanks to sites like LGF and Andrew Bolt, and of course, our other wonderful Aussie journo Tim Blair's site

520 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:40:33am

re: #515 Chicago Blonde

That was brilliant!

I love the ashtray.

521 Wishing  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:40:51am

re: #512 albusteve

blindsided, sucker punched, stabbed in the back, knee capped, turned on, questioned, called out, it all adds up...he cannot deal with shit coming from all sides and eventually he will blow...I hope anyway...taken down a notch at a time

The problem may be that he is a loose cannon when his feathers are ruffled: who will he kick if he won't get the kids a dog?

522 SurferDoc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:40:59am

re: #441 tfc3rid

BTW, if you saw 24 last night and if you've been watching all season, this really is the BEST season of 24 in a long, long time...

Yes, indeed! It's good to see Tony and Aaron again, too.

523 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:42:06am

re: #507 soxfan4life

Snow, Collins, and Specter will just cave to whatever Reid and Obama want them to do.

maybe so...but BO will have to explain away consistant partisanship in the House and for me that counts for a lot

524 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:42:31am

re: #521 Wishing

The problem may be that he is a loose cannon when his feathers are ruffled: who will he kick if he won't get the kids a dog?

He has PLENTY of staffers; I think any dog is safe.

525 nyc redneck  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:43:01am

putin and the jihadis must despise O. his arrogance and ridiculous naivety .
these are world class seasoned ruthless thugs.
they look at him w/ derision and scorn .
happy to take advantage of his ignorance and stupidity tho and lack of experience.
and O just can't do enough for them.
this scenario unfolding is so embarrassing and infuriating.
we have a a pres. w/ a boot on the back of OUR necks because he wants to be liked and respected by our enemy.
(this is going to catch up to us, in a bad way)

526 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:43:15am

re: #523 albusteve

maybe so...but BO will have to explain away consistant partisanship in the House and for me that counts for a lot

Republicans are evil. Rush is bad. Look at the balls on that monkey!

/all done

527 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:43:26am

re: #500 Erik The Red

Do you have a link to his blog? Sounds like a good bloke and could us some traffic.

Hi there! For you :-)

Andrew Bolt

Tim Blair

Tim especially has many American visitors

528 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:43:44am

re: #516 MandyManners

Here's the post. You tell me if it was a gratuitous reference.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Cynical - He wasn't selected because the lawyers want people on the jury they can manipulate.

Pragmatic (maybe?) - Being a physicist, can he really be counted as a peer?

Just sayin'

529 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:44:03am

Mornin' all. Have our snowed in lizards dug out yet?

530 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:44:27am

re: #516 MandyManners

Here's the post. You tell me if it was a gratuitous reference.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Completely unnecessary. Added nothing to the story. My apologies, I was thinking the story was in reverse. Like I used to say to my ex wife. There I go thinking again.

531 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:44:50am

Puzzled in Gaza

A must read account by a leftist English poet who travelled to Gaza "to bear witness to the slaughter" only to discover the situation was nothing like she had been lead to believe:

The Gazans I met weren't mourning the police state. Neither were they radicalized. As Hamas blackshirts menaced the street corners, I witnessed how passersby ignored them.

Terrorized Gazans used doublespeak when they told me most of the alleged 5,500 wounded were being treated in Egypt and Jordan. They want it known that the figure is a lie, and showed me that the wounded weren't in Gaza. No evidence exists of their presence in foreign hospitals, or of how they might have gotten there.

Gazans contradicted allegations that Israel had murderously attacked civilians. They told me again and again that both civilians and Hamas fighters had evacuated safely from areas of Hamas activity in response to Israeli telephone calls, leaflets and megaphone warnings.

Seeing Al-Fakhora made it impossible to understand how UN and press reports could ever have alleged that the UNWRA school had been hit by Israeli shells. The school, like most of Gaza, was visibly intact. I was shown where Hamas had been firing from nearby, and the Israeli missile's marks on the road outside the school were unmistakeable.

RTWFT!

532 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:44:59am

re: #528 Leonidas Hoplite

Cynical - He wasn't selected because the lawyers want people on the jury they can manipulate.

Pragmatic (maybe?) - Being a physicist, can he really be counted as a peer?

Just sayin'

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT! Refering to the judge's color is the point.

533 Wishing  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:45:13am

re: #524 OldLineTexan

He has PLENTY of staffers; I think any dog is safe.

No way would he be satisified with kicking a no-name staffer. I think that when the zero loses his temper, whole nations wilol pay.

534 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:46:02am

re: #526 OldLineTexan

Republicans are evil. Rush is bad. Look at the balls on that monkey!

/all done

Blue Ball Republicans...so be it...as long as they sustain the attack

535 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:46:10am

Just caught the tail end of a story on FNC. What letter did obambi send Czar Pooty Poot I about the missle shield? Let me guess...If Russia helps us with Iran, wink nudge, we won't deploy the shield.

536 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:46:14am

re: #530 soxfan4life

Completely unnecessary. Added nothing to the story. My apologies, I was thinking the story was in reverse. Like I used to say to my ex wife. There I go thinking again.

Thanks!

537 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:46:28am

re: #523 albusteve

maybe so...but BO will have to explain away consistant partisanship in the House and for me that counts for a lot

It does for me too, but it his followers as well as the new base ACORN will have in place before the next election that will matter. They are still reeling in the I won comment.

538 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:46:31am

re: #519 aussiemagpie

Thanks for all the links.

539 KenJen  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:47:05am

I heard from a friend yesterday that my senator Jim Bunning(R)-KY is threatening to resign because he is not getting any support from repubs for his re-election. Our gov is a Democrat and would surely replace him with one of his own. Haven't seen any news about this. Anyone know anything?

540 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:47:06am

re: #532 MandyManners

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT! Refering to the judge's color is the point.

Ok.

541 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:47:11am

re: #525 nyc redneck

putin and the jihadis must despise O. his arrogance and ridiculous naivety .
these are world class seasoned ruthless thugs.
they look at him w/ derision and scorn .
happy to take advantage of his ignorance and stupidity tho and lack of experience.
and O just can't do enough for them.
this scenario unfolding is so embarrassing and infuriating.
we have a a pres. w/ a boot on the back of OUR necks because he wants to be liked and respected by our enemy.
(this is going to catch up to us, in a bad way)

all financed with your tax dollars...liberalism gets people killed

542 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:48:17am

re: #522 SurferDoc

Yes, indeed! It's good to see Tony and Aaron again, too.

Methinks one of Aaron, Bill or Tony will not make it out alive.

543 summergurl  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:48:24am

re: #525 nyc redneck

putin and the jihadis must despise O. his arrogance and ridiculous naivety .
these are world class seasoned ruthless thugs.
they look at him w/ derision and scorn .
happy to take advantage of his ignorance and stupidity tho and lack of experience.
and O just can't do enough for them.
this scenario unfolding is so embarrassing and infuriating.
we have a a pres. w/ a boot on the back of OUR necks because he wants to be liked and respected by our enemy.
(this is going to catch up to us, in a bad way)

Anytime someone tries to be liked and respected, there's a problem. You earn respect.

544 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:48:32am

re: #541 albusteve

all financed with your tax dollars...liberalism gets people killed

When is he going to learn being liked does not equal being respected.

545 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:48:56am

re: #535 pingjockey

Just caught the tail end of a story on FNC. What letter did obambi send Czar Pooty Poot I about the missle shield? Let me guess...If Russia helps us with Iran, wink nudge, we won't deploy the shield.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

546 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:49:05am

re: #537 soxfan4life

It does for me too, but it his followers as well as the new base ACORN will have in place before the next election that will matter. They are still reeling in the I won comment.

and don't forget the MSN...it is a huge battle looming but I'm feeling jolly today and feel like kicking some donk ass

547 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:49:22am

re: #544 soxfan4life
The thing is, the countries he needs to deal with don't like us anyway!

548 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:49:27am

This is hilarious:

THE GAZA I saw was societally intact. There were no homeless, walking wounded, hungry or underdressed people. The streets were busy, shops were hung with embroidered dresses and gigantic cooking pots, the markets were full of fresh meat and beautiful produce - the red radishes were bigger than grapefruits. Mothers accompanied by a 13-year-old boy told me they were bored of leaving home to sit on rubble all day to tell the press how they'd survived.

Even the Palis are getting tired of being used as props.

549 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:49:32am

re: #476 albusteve

more BO bashing from USA Today...he's getting hammered from everywhere

[Link: blogs.usatoday.com...]

Fiscal Schizophrenia!

He cites — and incites — fear over the financial crisis, the recession and the housing mess to justify his enormous expansion of government, but most of his priorities have little to do with any of these things. Candidate Obama promised a net budget cut. But President Obama wants to increase discretionary spending by 12%. He proposes increasing taxes by $1.3 trillion and entitlement spending by at least $700 billion, but insists that he doesn't believe in "bigger government."

Fiscal schizophrenia

He loves to point out that he inherited a large deficit from the Republicans — which he did. But for reasons that are hard to grasp, he then suggests that this means Republicans have no right to complain when the deficit quadruples in one year or when he seeks to spend trillions of dollars on programs that have nothing whatsoever to do with ending the recession. Democrats flayed President Bush for deficits in the $300 billion to $400 billion range, when the country was at war and recovering from 9/11. Obama boasts that the deficit will be down to $500 billion to $600 billion during "peace and prosperity" — and that's only if his absurdly rosy scenario comes to pass. And we are supposed to applaud his fiscal seriousness to boot.

550 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:49:49am

re: #547 pingjockey

The thing is, the countries he needs to deal with don't like us anyway!

And never will.

551 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:50:06am

re: #447 yochanan

could you explain cricket to us YANKS?

Try Here to start with

552 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:50:15am

re: #545 tfc3rid
He's a fucking baby seal in world populated with polar bears.

553 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:50:31am

re: #533 Wishing

No way would he be satisified with kicking a no-name staffer. I think that when the zero loses his temper, whole nations wilol pay.

Only this one, and maybe Israel. And Pocky-stahn.

Everyone else is safe from Obama. He has already said so.

554 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:50:35am

re: #544 soxfan4life

When is he going to learn being liked does not equal being respected.

He doesn't care... He's getting so close to his socialist utopia... Just like he was taught by the radicals he has been around all his life...

Just like we kept pounding during the campaign...

555 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:50:55am

re: #547 pingjockey

The thing is, the countries he needs to deal with don't like us anyway!

Unfortunately for us, he can't seem to figure that one out. Typical of a liberal, fails to see there is bad in the world.

556 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:51:29am

re: #552 pingjockey

He's a fucking baby seal in world populated with polar bears.

So you're saying he needs to increase Gorebull Warming to drown the nasty bears?

/

557 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:51:31am

Morning, Lizards. Didya read Tony Blankley's article? In Washington times...

FTA

If President Obama were to try to misrepresent his positions for the next four years, there would be nothing he could say that would approach the inaccuracy of his claim last week that he is not for big government. It is the essence of the man and his presidency. He doesn't like America the way it has been since its founding - and it will take an abusively big government to realize his dreams of converting America into something quite different. If you don't know that, you don't yet know Barack Obama.
558 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:51:32am

re: #538 Chicago Blonde

Thanks for all the links.

Always glad to help, and also give some Down Under news/opinions to you all

559 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:52:08am

re: #555 soxfan4life

Unfortunately for us, he can't seem to figure that one out. Typical of a liberal, fails to see there is bad in the world.

Unless they see it here.

560 republic  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:52:56am

re: #480 tfc3rid

I ask them because I cannot fathom that some people believe he is doing really good work...


There are those who are deceived, and those who are not deceived.

It's really quite easy to tell.

561 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:53:13am

re: #548 Kenneth

Thanks for that. Did you post the link?

562 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:53:28am

re: #556 OldLineTexan
Heh. They had Darryl Hannah on FNC this am. She was one of the protestors at the Capitol power plant. She is so dense, she didn't get the fact that Doocey and the other guy made fun of her for the whole segment.

563 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:54:07am

re: #514 OldLineTexan

shovel some more Bolshevik. I like that.

564 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:54:15am

re: #540 Leonidas Hoplite

Ok.

Was it sexist that he noted it was a female judge?

565 avanti  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:54:16am

re: #496 Kenneth

Obama, Russia & Missile Defense

Obama's proposal raises a number of interesting issues:
- it's a tacit admission that missile defense is effective enough to be considered a bargaining chip. Otherwise BHO would not be offering to sacrifice it.
greater the instability, the more money Russia makes from the resulting rise in energy prices.


I never understood the shield in the first place. Why are we spending the money to protect Europe or even Israel when they are fully capable of doing it themselves. If we can eliminate the Iranian nuke program, whey do we need the shield, unless it's just to piss off the Russians by putting it in their former territory. If we can use it as a chip to get something more useful, I.m all for it.

566 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:54:19am

re: #561 OldLineTexan

The link is in my previous post. Same article.

567 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:54:30am

Good bye everybody; I need to get going for the day. I'll be back later if I can. Have a good one and stay scaly.

568 UFO TOFU  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:54:44am

re: #471 Ward Cleaver

One can’t help but wonder who is inhibiting the freedom of Southern California’s Muslims to forcefully condemn Islamic terrorism.


Perfect.

569 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:54:57am

Good morning y'all - from a COLD (14 degrees when I woke up but going up to 50 degrees today) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

570 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:55:11am

re: #559 Chicago Blonde

Unless they see it here.

Hamas good, LGF,Powerline, others bad.

571 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:55:29am

re: #563 FrogMarch

shovel some more Bolshevik. I like that.

Heh. I stole it from the local right-wing reactionary radio show this morning, and COULD NOT WAIT to work it in.

LOL. Small pleasures in the time of political famine.

572 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:55:45am
573 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:55:59am

re: #535 pingjockey

You got it! He's not smart enough to think up all this stuff alone. The warp speed this is all moving is mindboggling.

574 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:56:00am

re: #566 Kenneth

Sorry, missed it. Late to the party again.

575 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:56:48am

re: #562 pingjockey

Heh. They had Darryl Hannah on FNC this am. She was one of the protestors at the Capitol power plant. She is so dense, she didn't get the fact that Doocey and the other guy made fun of her for the whole segment.

How many idiots were out protesting in the global warming snow?
I read somewhere they were expecting thousands and thousands of protesters to hold hands and encircle the whole building

576 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:56:56am

re: #565 avanti
What reality are you living in? The mad mullahs will never give up their nuke program. Plus, the EU is sort of our allies. IIRC, we're supposed to help protect our allies. But, that is not new age thinking on my part. I guess defending democracies is passe'.

577 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:57:11am

re: #565 avanti

That part of the missile shield is placed in Europe because from there the system can target an Iranian ICBM during the boost phase. It is much more difficult to hit a missile during the decent phase. Of course, the US is deploying systems to intercept missiles during the decent phase as well. It's called a layered defense.

578 JohnAdams  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:57:52am

re: #562 pingjockey

Heh. They had Darryl Hannah on FNC this am. She was one of the protestors at the Capitol power plant. She is so dense, she didn't get the fact that Doocey and the other guy made fun of her for the whole segment.

Can't build nuke plants
Can't drill for oil
Can't burn coal

Where the fuck is the energy coming from? Mini-golf windmills?

579 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:57:52am

re: #576 pingjockey

What reality are you living in? The mad mullahs will never give up their nuke program. Plus, the EU is sort of our allies. IIRC, we're supposed to help protect our allies. But, that is not new age thinking on my part. I guess defending democracies is passe'.

We also kind of have troops behind the proposed shield.

Or is Obama proposing an 18-month withdrawal from Germany?

580 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:57:59am

re: #571 OldLineTexan

Heh. I stole it from the local right-wing reactionary radio show this morning, and COULD NOT WAIT to work it in.

LOL. Small pleasures in the time of political famine.

It's great. :-)
We gotta enjoy the small pleasures when we can get 'em.

581 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:58:25am

re: #569 realwest
Mornin' RW, a rainy, but mild (42) day here on the eastern slopes of the Cascades.

582 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:58:30am

re: #508 aussiemagpie

Glad to hear the fires are getting under control.

583 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:58:33am

re: #577 Kenneth

That part of the missile shield is placed in Europe because from there the system can target an Iranian ICBM during the boost phase. It is much more difficult to hit a missile during the decent phase. Of course, the US is deploying systems to intercept missiles during the decent phase as well. It's called a layered defense.

And the minor quibble that blowing up missiles aimed at you is a GOOD THING.

584 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:58:33am

re: #576 pingjockey

What reality are you living in? The mad mullahs will never give up their nuke program. Plus, the EU is sort of our allies. IIRC, we're supposed to help protect our allies. But, that is not new age thinking on my part. I guess defending democracies is passe'.

Given today's political climate you could say Reaganesque.

585 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:59:11am

re: #565 avanti

I never understood the shield in the first place. Why are we spending the money to protect Europe or even Israel when they are fully capable of doing it themselves. If we can eliminate the Iranian nuke program, whey do we need the shield, unless it's just to piss off the Russians by putting it in their former territory. If we can use it as a chip to get something more useful, I.m all for it.

Are you kidding? The shields act as interceptors of missiles fired at the US by nations in the Middle East, or possibly Russia. The goal is not to protect just Poland, although protecting one of our greatest allies is an added bonus.

586 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 6:59:27am

re: #575 aussiemagpie
Don't know, average age looked about 20 something.

587 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:00:13am

re: #578 JohnAdams

Can't build nuke plants
Can't drill for oil
Can't burn coal

Where the fuck is the energy coming from? Mini-golf windmills?

we won't have enough and the economy will slow even further...I believe that's the point

588 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:01:02am

re: #579 OldLineTexan
Didn't GW propose that? IIRC, the Germans had a fit. Those bases provide a lot of cash to their local economies.

589 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:01:18am

re: #579 OldLineTexan

We also kind of have troops behind the proposed shield.

Or is Obama proposing an 18-month withdrawal from Germany?

In order to pay for his spending programs, he will need to order an 18 month closure of all military installations both home and abroad.

590 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:01:35am

Pakistani terrorists assault Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore
By Bill Roggio

A terrorist assault team attacked a bus carrying the Sri Lankan cricket team in the eastern city of Lahore in Pakistan's Punjab province.

The "well-trained terrorists" killed five policemen and two civilians, and wounded seven Sri Lankan cricketers before melting away and 11 security and rescue personnel. Two of the Sri Lankans " received serious bullet injuries" while the head coach received minor injuries, the Associated Press of Pakistan reported.

591 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:01:52am

re: #585 Bloodnok

Are you kidding? The shields act as interceptors of missiles fired at the US by nations in the Middle East, or possibly Russia. The goal is not to protect just Poland, although protecting one of our greatest allies is an added bonus.

in all fairness I have to agree with eliminating the Iranian nuke program...it will create a whole new paradigm in our favor...imo

592 jorline  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:01:59am

re: #482 tfc3rid

Haggling is not productive... But submission would be welcomed.

In baseball terms...
The Russian 3rd base coach just gave the Iranian runner on 1st the steal anytime sign.

593 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:01:59am

re: #578 JohnAdams
Good morning! "Where the fuck is the energy coming from? Mini-golf windmills?"
Geothermal: we're gonna hook up long PVC piping into the Capitol Building and use all the hot air coming outta congress to warm us up!

594 avanti  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:03:03am

re: #576 pingjockey

What reality are you living in? The mad mullahs will never give up their nuke program. Plus, the EU is sort of our allies. IIRC, we're supposed to help protect our allies. But, that is not new age thinking on my part. I guess defending democracies is passe'.

It is for me, at least protecting Democracies with our money that could do it themselves. If Europe wants the shield and we have to build it, they can write us a nice check. How many troops to we have around the world protecting democracies on the tax payers dime.

595 jorline  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:03:11am

re: #593 realwest

Good morning! "Where the fuck is the energy coming from? Mini-golf windmills?"
Geothermal: we're gonna hook up long PVC piping into the Capitol Building and use all the hot air coming outta congress to warm us up!

Good morning, RW.

596 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:03:13am

re: #593 realwest

Good morning! "Where the fuck is the energy coming from? Mini-golf windmills?"
Geothermal: we're gonna hook up long PVC piping into the Capitol Building and use all the hot air coming outta congress to warm us up!

How do we build a big enough filtration system to keep from getting contaminated ourselves.

597 JohnAdams  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:03:33am

re: #587 albusteve

we won't have enough and the economy will slow even further...I believe that's the point

Are these people so Draconian that they are actually trying to crash the whole blasted thing? I am beginning to think so. Every move is totally counter-intuitive to the America of the past 200-plus years.

598 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:03:42am

re: #581 pingjockey
Hi ya ping! Glad it's mild; rainy doesn't surprised me at all - now if you'd a said "sunny" I'd a been SHOCKED! LOL!
How are you doing today?

599 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:03:56am

re: #569 realwest

Hey {real} didya get a bunch of snow in your neck of the woods? I had to leave for work yesterday before you had come online.

600 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:03:59am

re: #591 albusteve

in all fairness I have to agree with eliminating the Iranian nuke program...it will create a whole new paradigm in our favor...imo

Unfortunately, the Obama admin won't stop the Iranian nuclear weapons program and therefore we may have to fall back on defense as our only protection. Not that playing defense has ever been a winning strategy.

601 SurferDoc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:04:23am

re: #542 tfc3rid

Methinks one of Aaron, Bill or Tony will not make it out alive.

I was thinking the same this morning. Bill, I think.

602 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:04:37am

re: #592 jorline

In baseball terms...
The Russian 3rd base coach just gave the Iranian runner on 1st the steal anytime sign.

good analogy...they won't even need to when BO balks

603 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:04:42am

re: #591 albusteve
The Russians helped them build the damn thing. They are not gonna help dismantle it. Us having to deal with the Iranian nuke and other stuff in the ME, gives Putin a free hand to rebuild the Russian Empire, threaten, cow Europe, former Soviet republics, etc...

604 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:04:45am

re: #587 albusteve

we won't have enough and the economy will slow even further...I believe that's the point

And what we do generate will be so expensive with the cap and trade taxes imposed on it.

605 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:04:56am

re: #598 realwest

Hi ya ping! Glad it's mild; rainy doesn't surprised me at all - now if you'd a said "sunny" I'd a been SHOCKED! LOL!
How are you doing today?


Good Morning Realwest..Hope you are feeling better today..
Any more snow on the way?

606 VioletTiger  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:05:11am

re: #575 aussiemagpie

How many idiots were out protesting in the global warming snow?
I read somewhere they were expecting thousands and thousands of protesters to hold hands and encircle the whole building


I think only 600, cold people showed up. There was a danger of frostbite, with the wind chill. Heh. ;)

607 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:05:32am

re: #594 avanti
This is what we do. If you haven't forgotten, we're the guys in the white hats.

608 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:05:40am

re: #594 avanti

Again you miss the point:

The European based system does protect the US.

609 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:05:55am

re: #595 jorline
Hey good morning jorline! How are you doing today?

610 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:05:56am

re: #575 aussiemagpie
Hey...it's not Global Warming anymore. She said it is now called "Climate Crisis"! And coal is a dirty four letter word!

611 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:06:32am

Greets and saluts from the frigid NYC metro area. It's more of the same from Gaza and Israel; Hamas has fired 120 rockets and mortars at Israel in the past week, and Israel's restraint has meant only limited military responses, and more importantly, the dreaded letter to the UN demanding action.

The world has responded thus far by pledging $4 billion. To Gazans.

Nucking Futs.

612 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:06:45am

re: #597 JohnAdams

Are these people so Draconian that they are actually trying to crash the whole blasted thing? I am beginning to think so. Every move is totally counter-intuitive to the America of the past 200-plus years.

I've thought so all along...before the elections...and now how can he explain away his motives?...voters are so stupid

613 Wishing  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:06:51am

re: #604 soxfan4life

And what we do generate will be so expensive with the cap and trade taxes imposed on it.

I am so glad this came up! Would one of you be so kind as to explain what the heck *cap and trade* is? Thanks!

614 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:06:58am

re: #598 realwest
We're good. Sun is the norm here. We're on the east slope of the Cascades. We get a foot of precipitation, including snow, a year.

615 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:07:05am

re: #596 soxfan4life
Hmmm - leave it up to a Bosox fan to create problems with a joke no less!
;')

616 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:07:09am

re: #606 VioletTiger

I think only 600, cold people showed up. There was a danger of frostbite, with the wind chill. Heh. ;)


In Obama math that would be equal to 20,000. Herd them into narrow gates and take a photo from up close. Make the group look alot larger.

617 avanti  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:08:47am

re: #577 Kenneth

That part of the missile shield is placed in Europe because from there the system can target an Iranian ICBM during the boost phase. It is much more difficult to hit a missile during the decent phase. Of course, the US is deploying systems to intercept missiles during the decent phase as well. It's called a layered defense.

What Iranian ICBM ? They are years from having a nuke, then years more from downsizing to warhead size, decades from a ICBM, all the while under the eye of the Israelis.

618 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:08:54am

re: #603 pingjockey

The Russians helped them build the damn thing. They are not gonna help dismantle it. Us having to deal with the Iranian nuke and other stuff in the ME, gives Putin a free hand to rebuild the Russian Empire, threaten, cow Europe, former Soviet republics, etc...

we can dismantle it...sorry Vlad!...we need to gut Iran financially...but we probably won't

619 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:09:15am

re: #597 JohnAdams
Good morning to you! That's because Obama and his crack team of tax cheats think in a way totally counter-intuitive to the America of the past 200-plus years.

620 JohnAdams  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:09:16am

re: #611 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the frigid NYC metro area. It's more of the same from Gaza and Israel; Hamas has fired 120 rockets and mortars at Israel in the past week, and Israel's restraint has meant only limited military responses, and more importantly, the dreaded letter to the UN demanding action.

The world has responded thus far by pledging $4 billion. To Gazans.

Nucking Futs.

Commence the International Bailout.

621 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:09:25am

re: #594 avanti

It is for me, at least protecting Democracies with our money that could do it themselves. If Europe wants the shield and we have to build it, they can write us a nice check. How many troops to we have around the world protecting democracies on the tax payers dime.

Again, the shield is not to protect Poland. In fact, we paid THEM Patriot missiles for the permission to build the shield on their land.

622 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:09:41am

A little buyers remorse...

But the Obama budget is more than just the sum of its parts. There is, entailed in it, a promiscuous unwillingness to set priorities and accept trade-offs. There is evidence of a party swept up in its own revolutionary fervor — caught up in the self-flattering belief that history has called upon it to solve all problems at once.

The U.S. has never been a society riven by class resentment. Yet the Obama budget is predicated on a class divide.

The U.S. has always been a decentralized nation, skeptical of top-down planning. Yet, the current administration concentrates enormous power in Washington, while plan after plan emanates from a small group of understaffed experts.

But in its very first budget, the Obama administration raises the cost of charitable giving. It punishes civic activism and expands state intervention.

But his actions betray a transformational liberalism that should put every centrist on notice. As Clive Crook, an Obama admirer, wrote in The Financial Times, the Obama budget “contains no trace of compromise. It makes no gesture, however small, however costless to its larger agenda, of a bipartisan approach to the great questions it addresses. It is a liberal’s dream of a new New Deal.”

623 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:09:43am

re: #617 avanti
Who told you? Never underestimate your enemy.

624 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:10:04am

re: #587 albusteve

we won't have enough and the economy will slow even further...I believe that's the point


I agree. The democrats do desire to kill off the coal industry. I will say this -(and this won't be popular) coal is a very dirty form of energy. Even "clean coal" technology isn't a panacea (it stores the pollution - and it can leak)
I think we need to push for some re-newables (wind and solar), but the large share of energy should realistically come from Nuclear power and natural gas. We have a lot of natural gas, and the technology to get to it has really improved.

The dems do not want nuclear power. they think we can use wind and solar for everything. We cannot.

(just MHO)

625 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:11:24am

re: #565 avanti

I never understood the shield in the first place. Why are we spending the money to protect Europe or even Israel when they are fully capable of doing it themselves. If we can eliminate the Iranian nuke program, whey do we need the shield, unless it's just to piss off the Russians by putting it in their former territory. If we can use it as a chip to get something more useful, I.m all for it.

Like what? "free" single payer government run fascist health care?
oh joy. We must protect our allies and ourselves. It is a joke not to.

626 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:11:29am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Winter is back - its only raining here but snowing in Scotland, according to the weather forecasters.

As our Gord is visiting PB0, here's a cartoon for you to enjoy!
It shows what people here think of that visit ...

Oh - and 'Crufts Week' - this week the world's largest dog show takes place in Birmingham.
Wuff wuff!

627 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:11:42am

re: #624 FrogMarch
They don't want wind and solar either. See the Swimmer and Walter Crankcase.

628 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:11:50am

re: #599 Beach Lover
Hi {Beach Lover} - uh, define "bunch"! We had about 4 inches or so, but ten miles or so to our west they had 11 inches of snow down here in the heart of Dixie!
Hope y'all were ok yesterday and are doing well today!

629 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:11:51am

Good Morning.

So what setting is our Obamaton set to today?

Somewhere between "Slavish Sycophancy" and "Downright Delusional"?

630 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:12:26am

re: #627 pingjockey

They don't want wind and solar either. See the Swimmer and Walter Crankcase.

huh? what's that?

631 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:12:27am

re: #617 avanti

Keep napping... Years from having a nuke... Please...

632 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:12:28am

re: #611 lawhawk

The world has responded thus far by pledging $4 billion. To Gazans.

Rewarding success!

633 jorline  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:12:44am

re: #602 albusteve

good analogy...they won't even need to when BO balks

lol...his windup and move to home appear very weak. Big lead and early jump!

634 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:12:47am

re: #623 pingjockey

Who told you? Never underestimate your enemy.

Shhh! He's actually A.Q. Khan. Notice that he didn't start posting here until Khan was released?

635 avanti  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:13:04am

re: #585 Bloodnok

Are you kidding? The shields act as interceptors of missiles fired at the US by nations in the Middle East, or possibly Russia. The goal is not to protect just Poland, although protecting one of our greatest allies is an added bonus.

Russia ? now you are kidding. We could stop maybe a half dozen of the several 1000 incoming Russian missiles on a good day. Assured mutual destruction is still in place.

636 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:13:33am

re: #630 FrogMarch
Ted Kennedy and Walter Cronkite stopped a wind farm from being built, out to sea off of Marthas Vineyard cause it would ruin the view!

637 jorline  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:13:40am

re: #609 realwest

Hey good morning jorline! How are you doing today?

I'm well, thanks. Off to the docs office around 10.

638 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:13:58am

re: #629 karmic_inquisitor

Good Morning.

So what setting is our Obamaton set to today?

Somewhere between "Slavish Sycophancy" and "Downright Delusional"?

Well he and good ole Joe are unveiling the new logo for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act this morning.
whoo-hoo!

639 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:14:09am

re: #634 Ward Cleaver
OH SNAP!

640 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:14:18am

re: #626 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Winter is back - its only raining here but snowing in Scotland, according to the weather forecasters.

As our Gord is visiting PB0, here's a cartoon for you to enjoy!
It shows what people here think of that visit ...

Oh - and 'Crufts Week' - this week the world's largest dog show takes place in Birmingham.
Wuff wuff!

We watched the Crufts dog show a few years ago, or parts of it, anyway.
That was one place a word you don't hear much on TV was used frequently, in a family show at that:
"She is a 3 year old bitch, and this is her first time at Crufts..."

641 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:14:37am

re: #622 Leonidas Hoplite

A little buyers remorse...

thanks for that...always liked Brooks

642 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:14:38am

Here we go again...Another tax problem for a Obama nominee:
From the USA Today:
WASHINGTON — Tax Troubles: Take Five opened at the White House Monday with revelations that another of President Obama's Cabinet-level nominees has problems with unpaid taxes.
The Senate Finance Committee announced Monday that Ron Kirk, nominee for trade representative, owes roughly $10,000 in taxes from 2005, 2006 and 2007 for speaking fees he donated to his alma mater.

643 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:14:43am

re: #628 realwest

yeah, we had about 4" here too. By the time I had to drive in it though, it was OK. And it supposed to be 70 on Sat! Now, that's more like it!

644 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:14:51am

re: #638 Killer Tomato

Well he and good ole Joe are unveiling the new logo for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act this morning.
whoo-hoo!

I have a feeling it will look like a goatse.

645 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:14:51am

Howdy. It's dang cold here.

646 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:14:54am

re: #636 pingjockey

Ted Kennedy and Walter Cronkite stopped a wind farm from being built, out to sea off of Marthas Vineyard cause it would ruin the view!

oh yeah! Well, we can do wind, jut not in any liberal elite's backyard.

647 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:14:56am

re: #605 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops! I'm feeling better today than I have in the last week or so, thanks!
And there better not be any more snow on the way down here or I'm going to do some Gore hunting, myself! LOL!
How about y'all up in Indiana - you get much snow or have much forecast for the weekend?

648 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:15:08am

re: #590 Kenneth

Pakistani terrorists assault Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore
By Bill Roggio

Further news about this:

All 14 gunmen escape after deadly attack on Sri Lankan cricketers in Lahore
'Up to 14 gunmen are on the run after a terror attack on the Sri Lankan national cricket team today in which seven cricketers were hurt and at least seven people died.
Heavily-armed attackers working in pairs opened fire on the team's tour bus and a minibus carrying match officials, as their convoy was on the way to the third day's play in the second Test against Pakistan at the Gaddafi stadium in Lahore.
Six policemen and the minibus driver were shot dead. Despite the injuries to seven Sri Lankan players, the team appears to have had an almost miraculous escape. The shocked players told how the attackers fired a rocket-propelled grenade at the team bus, but missed. ... ... ...'

Lahore - well-know hot-bed of islamist terrorism.

649 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:15:14am

re: #638 Killer Tomato

Well he and good ole Joe are unveiling the new logo for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act this morning.
whoo-hoo!

Does it involve a giant screw?

650 cronus  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:15:42am

Politico: (Conservative) Group launches health care offensive

Conservatives for Patients Rights is going on TV, radio and the Web in the same week President Barack Obama hosts a health care summit at the White House. The group’s leader, Richard Scott, is hoping a pro-free-market message will rally the right to join the fray on what may be the most hard-fought policy battle in the first year of the new administration.

Looks like their first ad is up: [Link: conservativesforpatientsrights.org...]

651 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:16:12am

re: #611 lawhawk

The world has responded thus far by pledging $4 billion. To Gazans.

Subsidizing failure is all the rage these days.

(And when it comes to "all the rage", nobody beats the Palis.)

652 rw in san diego  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:16:24am

re: #569 realwest

Good morning, all.

A special hello to realwest, one of my BFFs! It's good to hear you survived the weather there. Is that unusual for Charlotte? It's a gorgeous morning here in north coastal SD, although I have plans to abandon it and travel to Boston in a few days. The forecast predicts warmer weather for my arrival. Whew!

653 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:16:30am

re: #647 realwest

Hi ya Hoops! I'm feeling better today than I have in the last week or so, thanks!
And there better not be any more snow on the way down here or I'm going to do some Gore hunting, myself! LOL!
How about y'all up in Indiana - you get much snow or have much forecast for the weekend?

Well I'm glad you are feeling better..We are moving towards the 60's this weekend.. Spring is coming..slowly but surely.

654 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:16:42am

re: #649 Kosh's Shadow

Does it involve a giant screw?

Yes, but I don't know what the logo's going to look like.

655 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:16:55am

re: #651 Occasional Reader
I dunno. "Rage boy" wasn't a Pali was he?

656 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:17:02am

re: #617 avanti

The Iranians just launched a satellite. That's the same thing as an ICBM. They have enough low enriched uranium to build at least one bomb, it does require further enrichment, which would take a few months to a few years depending upon their capacity. We don't know what their full capacity is because they won't allow thorough inspections. Furthermore, the Iranians could buy fissile material from the North Koreans who could always use the cash.

Secondly, it will take several months to install the missile defense system. Which is why we have to start now, in order to have it in place by the time Iran unequivocally has nuclear missiles.

657 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:17:13am

LOL

658 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:17:17am

re: #650 cronus

Politico: (Conservative) Group launches health care offensive

Looks like their first ad is up: [Link: conservativesforpatientsrights.org...]

Good.

You know, if the US goes to nationalized healthcare, where will Canada send their patients that they can't handle?

659 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:17:51am

re: #569 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a COLD (14 degrees when I woke up but going up to 50 degrees today) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

*Smooch* darls and I hope you're feeling MUCH better than you were the other night!

660 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:18:02am

re: #654 Killer Tomato
A combo of Marx, Lenin, and Che saying "bow to your Leader"

661 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:18:08am

re: #636 pingjockey

Ted Kennedy and Walter Cronkite stopped a wind farm from being built, out to sea off of Marthas Vineyard cause it would ruin the view!

What view? It's just a big flat expanse of water with nothing on it. That, and the windmills would be so far out, they'd be hidden by the waves.

662 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:18:14am

re: #648 yma o hyd

Lahore - well-know hot-bed of islamist terrorism.

Although given the targets, "Tamil Tigers" are also a likely culprit.

Disgusting and barbaric, either way.

663 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:18:31am

re: #636 pingjockey

Ted Kennedy and Walter Cronkite stopped a wind farm from being built, out to sea off of Marthas Vineyard cause it would ruin the view!

Good Morning everyone!
Ping, the site for that proposed wind farm is totally inappropriate. There are literally hundreds of other perfect sites here, but these idiots want to put it smack dab in the middle of shipping, flight paths and the pristine water view the Cape is famous for. It will drive home values down further because of the visual pollution.
It pains me to say it, but Flipper Kennedy is right about this one.

664 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:18:43am

re: #655 pingjockey

I dunno. "Rage boy" wasn't a Pali was he?

Rage Boy is universal...

665 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:18:58am

re: #660 pingjockey

"Kneel before Zero!"

666 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:19:02am

re: #635 avanti

Russia ? now you are kidding. We could stop maybe a half dozen of the several 1000 incoming Russian missiles on a good day. Assured mutual destruction is still in place.

The intent is not to stop the entire arsenal and nobody has ever claimed it was, least of all me. But don't let that fact stop you from yet another defense of Obama's policies.

(And it's not "Missile Defense or Iranian Nukes -take your pick". It was Obama's administration that tied these two things together. It is possible to move forward with the missile defense AND do something about Iranian nukes -Russia liking us or not. In fact this is more cowardice from Obama -hoping that someone else can convince Iran not to move forward.)

667 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:19:12am

re: #661 Honorary Yooper
Doesn't matter. Liberal nimbys get what they want.

668 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:19:34am

re: #611 lawhawk
Morning lawhawk - saw on TV just how badly NYC and environs got hit by that snowstorm and I feel for you.
As for the "world" and the Gazans, they say that the 4 Billion will be going only to the Gazans who were "adversely impacted" by Israel's aggression, not to Hamas.
I personally think we ought to sell the Brooklyn Bridge to the UN and give the proceeds to Israel so Israel can afford to drop 4 Billion bucks worth of munitions on "the Gazans" who, after all, ELECTED HAMAS!
WTF is this so hard for the "world" to understand?!

669 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:19:43am

re: #613 Wishing

I am so glad this came up! Would one of you be so kind as to explain what the heck *cap and trade* is? Thanks!

This is from the epa. Basically it limits the greenhouse gasses allowed to be expelled by the power plants. There will be fines and penalties for non-compliance and overages. Like any good business the utilities will just pass the cost along to the consumer. Thus making electricity much more expensive.

[Link: www.epa.gov...]

670 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:19:47am

re: #649 Kosh's Shadow

Does it involve a giant screw?

That was the second draft. The first was "a boot stamping on a human face, forever", but it was rejected as being insufficiently subtle.

671 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:19:50am

re: #661 Honorary Yooper

What view? It's just a big flat expanse of water with nothing on it. That, and the windmills would be so far out, they'd be hidden by the waves.

wrong...you could easily see them from shore...about three mile I think

672 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:19:54am

re: #582 VioletTiger

Glad to hear the fires are getting under control.

Hi! Yes for sure - the fires have been burning for weeks now and all those fireys fighting the fires deserve a rest from them

673 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:20:13am

re: #663 CapeCoddah

Good Morning everyone!
Ping, the site for that proposed wind farm is totally inappropriate. There are literally hundreds of other perfect sites here, but these idiots want to put it smack dab in the middle of shipping, flight paths and the pristine water view the Cape is famous for. It will drive home values down further because of the visual pollution.
It pains me to say it, but Flipper Kennedy is right about this one.

They want to put it there because that is where the wind is. They don't have turbines that can efficiently work from the hot air that comes out of Kennedy's mouth.

674 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:20:15am

re: #658 Kosh's Shadow

Good.

You know, if the US goes to nationalized healthcare, where will Canada send their patients that they can't handle?

Mexico? Bahamas? Haiti?

675 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:20:24am

Back in the day, a certain President proposed a missile defense system that would protect us from ICBM attack and it was nicknamed Star Wars. The Soviets couldn't hope to compete on technological grounds, let alone financially, and hoped that they could get that President to scrap the plan in a trade off of nuclear weapons cuts. That President, Ronald Reagan, refused to budge on Star Wars and still demanded - and got - the nuclear weapons cuts.

Our current President, Barack Obama, has decided to toss missile defense on the cutting block even before getting a single agreement on what is to be done about anything with the Russians vis a vis Iran, and the missile defense system isn't even geared to defend against the Russians, but rather against rogue regimes like Iran, on which the supposed missile defense deal is being done. We're not only negotiating away our technological advantages before a deal is in hand, but we're signaling that we're doing so willingly and without regard to the implications going forward.

It is a serious misjudgment on the part of the Administration. Missile defense technologies have already shown their worth, and fielding the system provides some measure of protection to our interests around the world from rogue regimes.

Actually, it's even worse than that. It's amateur hour. Negotiating 101 demands that you do not make concessions without getting offers first. Yet, Obama is busy making serial concessions without getting anything in return except possible and nebulous promises to do something down the road. That's not sound strategy and it weakens US strategic and tactical interests.

676 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:20:43am

re: #658 Kosh's Shadow

I was watching a medical show last night - mid 60's gentleman having a heart transplant. Good thing he got it then - under Obamacare I'm sure he'd be deemed too old to bother with.

677 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:20:45am

re: #663 CapeCoddah
Really? My point was and is, they don't want coal. oil. They want to tear out dams, no windmills, solar takes too much room. Where are we supposed to get the energy from? Unicorn farts?

678 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:20:57am

re: #614 pingjockey
Sun is the NORM there? Say, which side of the Cascades is Seattle located?!

679 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:21:00am

re: #666 Bloodnok

In fact this is more cowardice from Obama -hoping that someone else can convince Iran not to move forward

And what have you got against "hope"? You must be one of those racists I keep hearing about.

/

680 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:21:06am

re: #640 Kosh's Shadow

We watched the Crufts dog show a few years ago, or parts of it, anyway.
That was one place a word you don't hear much on TV was used frequently, in a family show at that:
"She is a 3 year old bitch, and this is her first time at Crufts..."

This year, the effen Beeb has pulled out of showing it, because of concern for some breeds.
Yes, tehre are some abd breeders, yes there are big health problems in some breeds, but not showing this means that all those of us who lvoe seeing the agility, Flyball and Obedience Championships won't be seeing anything at all.

Mind - actually going there is amazing! I've been a few times, not showing or anything, just meeting dogs. Got slobbered over by all 14 St Bernhards on one visit ...

681 avanti  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:21:11am

re: #631 tfc3rid

Keep napping... Years from having a nuke... Please...

"So when do we start worrying? As this sober analysis in Time points out, almost 800 kilograms of low-enriched uranium has passed through the centrifuges at Natanz, and those stocks are monitored and under seal. For Iran to make a single, crude bomb, it would need highly enriched uranium. That would mean kicking out international inspectors, reconfiguring the cascades and re-enriching the low-enriched material. Experts reckon it would take months for that to happen, enough time for a dramatic international response. Even if successful in developing a Hiroshima-style device, Iran would not have anything that could be packaged on, say, a ballistic missile. "

682 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:21:45am

re: #674 Honorary Yooper

Mexico? Bahamas? Haiti?

Where Michael Moore always goes for healthcare..Cuba.

683 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:22:33am

re: #678 realwest
West side. I'm about 2 1/2 hours from Seattle. We are in the rain shadow, it's called.

684 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:22:33am

Guess what everyone? We here in Taxachusetts are getting a new Carbon Fee to park at the airport!
[Link: www.boston.com...]

They are also considering coming into our homes and taxing us on our "Stuff". For instance, if you have a subzero refrigerator instead of say, a whirlpool, you will be taxed on the extravagance, over and above the Massachusetts 5+% sales and added luxury tax on such items. Sweet, huh?

685 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:23:03am

re: #606 VioletTiger

I think only 600, cold people showed up. There was a danger of frostbite, with the wind chill. Heh. ;)

HAHA! It's just delicious that the weather was so nasty :-)

I suppose quite a few decided to be there in spirit only while snuggling at at home in their Snuggies in front of a fire :-)

686 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:23:24am

re: #650 cronus

Politico: (Conservative) Group launches health care offensive

Looks like their first ad is up: [Link: conservativesforpatientsrights.org...]

thanks for the links...
“If we have more government involvement we’re going to have dramatically worse health care,”

Hey - our health care can be run like the DMV!

It is imperative we keep health care private, out of the hands of the government, and promote competition within the insurance industry. it is also imperative we point out that many of the "millions of uninsured" are either between jobs or younger folks who choose not to get covered.

687 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:23:27am

Later folks!

688 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:23:46am

re: #684 CapeCoddah

Guess what everyone? We here in Taxachusetts are getting a new Carbon Fee to park at the airport!
[Link: www.boston.com...]

They are also considering coming into our homes and taxing us on our "Stuff". For instance, if you have a subzero refrigerator instead of say, a whirlpool, you will be taxed on the extravagance, over and above the Massachusetts 5+% sales and added luxury tax on such items. Sweet, huh?

How will they know what we have? Isn't that a violation of "Search and Seizure"?

689 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:23:47am

re: #674 Honorary Yooper

Mexico? Bahamas? Haiti?

Possible investment opportunity; Brazilian private clinics. They have some good docs in Brazil.

690 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:24:00am

re: #681 avanti

Unless they have a second enrichment facility somewhere else. The inspectors have only seen what they are permitted to see and they have been refused entry to specific sights several times.

691 lobo91  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:24:45am

re: #658 Kosh's Shadow

Good.

You know, if the US goes to nationalized healthcare, where will Canada send their patients that they can't handle?

The ice floes up north?

692 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:24:45am

re: #673 Kosh's Shadow

They want to put it there because that is where the wind is. They don't have turbines that can efficiently work from the hot air that comes out of Kennedy's mouth.

The wind is much better south of Nantucket, where it is not surrounded by land masses, but in open ocean.

693 SurferDoc  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:24:51am

re: #670 Occasional Reader

That was the second draft. The first was "a boot stamping on a human face, forever", but it was rejected as being insufficiently subtle.

Upding for the Orwell! ;D

694 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:25:06am

Hey Avanti.

Obama promised to cure cancer the other night.

Do you have any idea how he is going to do it? Seen the prices of drug/helth care companies this morning? Many are still going down.

695 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:25:16am

re: #677 pingjockey

Unicorn farts? LOLOLOL

696 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:25:18am

re: #680 yma o hyd

This year, the effen Beeb has pulled out of showing it, because of concern for some breeds.
Yes, tehre are some abd breeders, yes there are big health problems in some breeds, but not showing this means that all those of us who lvoe seeing the agility, Flyball and Obedience Championships won't be seeing anything at all.

Mind - actually going there is amazing! I've been a few times, not showing or anything, just meeting dogs. Got slobbered over by all 14 St Bernhards on one visit ...

One of our standard poodles comes from a good line; his father was a champion (and his uncles were hunters; he has a strong hunting instinct).
We don't show our dogs, though. But our vet breeds champion Borzois, and it seems every time we have an emergency they're at a dog show.

Watching the poodles move is something, although that show cut looks absurd. The dogs act like they look great, though. We don't get ours groomed like that, but the dog I mentioned initially gets upset if he isn't groomed first, and he struts afterwards like he knows he looks good.

697 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:25:19am

re: #684 CapeCoddah

They are also considering coming into our homes and taxing us on our "Stuff". For instance, if you have a subzero refrigerator instead of say, a whirlpool, you will be taxed on the extravagance, over and above the Massachusetts 5+% sales and added luxury tax on such items. Sweet, huh?

Simply incredible. Out and out class warfare. Oh, and of course this perverse incentive will be great for boosting consumer spending and helping the economy recover, won't it.

698 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:25:21am

re: #610 Beach Lover

Hey...it's not Global Warming anymore. She said it is now called "Climate Crisis"! And coal is a dirty four letter word!

Hi {Beach lover} good to see you!

So if I say c*al, I should wash my mouth out then?

Climate Crisis! HAHAHA!

699 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:25:36am

re: #662 Occasional Reader

Although given the targets, "Tamil Tigers" are also a likely culprit.

Disgusting and barbaric, either way.

True about the Tamil Tigers - that was the first thought which crossed my mind when I heard the news.
However - all gunmen escaping, that points firmly at some local Pakistani talent. Which isn't to say they couldn't have been in cahoots with said Tigers ...

700 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:25:39am

re: #688 Bloodnok

How will they know what we have? Isn't that a violation of "Search and Seizure"?

it is at my house...no fucking way...I will be a headline first

701 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:25:53am

re: #681 avanti

As this sober analysis in Time points out,

Time is not sober, it's drunk on Obama flavored Kool-Aid.

702 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:26:30am

re: #690 Kenneth

Unless they have a second enrichment facility somewhere else. The inspectors have only seen what they are permitted to see and they have been refused entry to specific sights several times.

"oh look at the monkeys!"...good grief

703 cronus  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:26:50am

re: #658 Kosh's Shadow

Good.

You know, if the US goes to nationalized healthcare, where will Canada send their patients that they can't handle?

I assume the same place Americans will have to go...Mexico

Good thing Canada built that overpass!
Onion: U.S. Protests Mexi-Canadian Overpass

704 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:26:52am

re: #677 pingjockey

Really? My point was and is, they don't want coal. oil. They want to tear out dams, no windmills, solar takes too much room. Where are we supposed to get the energy from? Unicorn farts?

Got it. We also have capped oil wells off the Cape. I say fire those suckers up. They were drilled and capped when I was a kid. WE NEED TO DRILL OUR OWN OIL.

705 J.S.  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:26:56am

re: #611 lawhawk

Clinton's pledges to "rebuild" Gaza is utterly unbelievable -- have the Gazans rebuild! Hold the Gazans accountalbe. They're not children who need tending. Then she's offering these murderous monsters close to a billion dollars! For what? Escalating the scale of their murdering capacities? It's insane. (Now, btw, there are reports that the U.S. will begin "talks" with Syria. Talks about what precisely? How to destroy Israel? The U.S. wants now to "reach out" to murderous thugs. Maybe Syria will figure it's being given a green light for a re-invasion of Lebanon...)

706 Miss Trixie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:27:34am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Another bright winter day and baby! It's cold outside! Temps to improve greatly before the end of the week and I'll have a chance to defrost my icy hands.

C'mon Spring!

{realwest} Morning! *smoochie-smooch* How are you today? Warm enough, hon?

707 jaunte  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:27:53am

re: #701 Kenneth

Time is not sober, it's drunk on Obama flavored Kool-Aid.

As an example, Time still refers to Mohammed ElBaradei as a 'watchdog.'
[Link: www.time.com...]

708 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:27:56am

re: #681 avanti

"So when do we start worrying? As this sober analysis in Time points out, almost 800 kilograms of low-enriched uranium has passed through the centrifuges at Natanz, and those stocks are monitored and under seal. For Iran to make a single, crude bomb, it would need highly enriched uranium. That would mean kicking out international inspectors, reconfiguring the cascades and re-enriching the low-enriched material. Experts reckon it would take months for that to happen, enough time for a dramatic international response. Even if successful in developing a Hiroshima-style device, Iran would not have anything that could be packaged on, say, a ballistic missile. "

What have these guys been smoking? Unicorn dust?
All this assumes Iran doesn't have a secret enrichment facility, and that all the stocks are known. The Iranians have been hiding things from the IAEA for years, although they don't try too hard to look.

709 ggt  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:27:56am

Hey Honcos! It is cold in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

It's still early for me. Can someone explain how this is an apology?

""To the extent that my remarks helped the Democrats in Washington to take the focus, even for one minute, off of their irresponsible expansion of government, I truly apologize," Steele said late Monday."

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

710 ArmyWife  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:28:12am

Hope and Change Alert!

Russia says "F you, Obama and the train you rode in on!"

Ok, not really. But close! [Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

711 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:28:16am

re: #688 Bloodnok

How will they know what we have? Isn't that a violation of "Search and Seizure"?

If they've already thrown out the Second Amendment, why not the Fourth? The so-called "Bill of Rights" was just something dreamed up by dead white slaveowners, anyway. Who cares?

712 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:28:39am

re: #688 Bloodnok

How will they know what we have? Isn't that a violation of "Search and Seizure"?

No, it is not search and seizure. We still have to let tax assessors into our homes for inspections when an addition is built for instance, it would fall under that type of purview.

713 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:29:08am

re: #699 yma o hyd

However - all gunmen escaping, that points firmly at some local Pakistani talent. Which isn't to say they couldn't have been in cahoots with said Tigers ...

Excellent point. And these scumbags do tend to gravitate toward each other, don't they.

714 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:29:11am

re: #700 albusteve

it is at my house...no fucking way...I will be a headline first

What about creeps like Algore who may have an energy efficient fridge (tho' he probably doesn't) but also have a myriad of other things which suck energy. If I have a subzero freezer, but relatively little else in my apartment that guzzles energy am I really "the problem"? Meanwhile someone who has a green freezer has permission to use as much energy on other things as they see fit.

715 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:29:43am

re: #711 Occasional Reader

If they've already thrown out the Second Amendment, why not the Fourth? The so-called "Bill of Rights" was just something dreamed up by dead white slaveowners, anyway. Who cares?

my what a cheery thought!

716 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:29:45am

Wall Street Journal -

Obama running out of people to blame.


The market has notably plunged since Mr. Obama introduced his budget last week, and that should be no surprise. The document was a declaration of hostility toward capitalists across the economy. Health-care stocks have dived on fears of new government mandates and price controls. Private lenders to students have been told they're no longer wanted. Anyone who uses carbon energy has been warned to expect a huge tax increase from cap and trade. And every risk-taker and investor now knows that another tax increase will slam the economy in 2011, unless Mr. Obama lets Speaker Nancy Pelosi impose one even earlier.

Meanwhile, Congress demands more bank lending even as it assails lenders and threatens to let judges rewrite mortgage contracts. The powers in Congress -- unrebuked by Mr. Obama -- are ridiculing and punishing the very capitalists who are essential to a sustainable recovery. The result has been a capital strike, and the return of the fear from last year that we could face a far deeper downturn. This is no way to nurture a wounded economy back to health.

Listening to Mr. Obama and his chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, on the weekend, we couldn't help but wonder if they appreciate any of this. They seem preoccupied with going to the barricades against Republicans who wield little power, or picking a fight with Rush Limbaugh, as if this is the kind of economic leadership Americans want.

Perhaps they're reading the polls and figure they have two or three years before voters stop blaming Republicans and Mr. Bush for the economy. Even if that's right in the long run, in the meantime their assault on business and investors is delaying a recovery and ensuring that the expansion will be weaker than it should be when it finally does arrive.

717 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:29:48am

re: #674 Honorary Yooper

Mexico? Bahamas? Haiti?

All the liberals in my neighborhood say "China". No way I'm going to China for surgery or transplant.

718 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:30:06am

re: #624 FrogMarch
Hi FrogMarch - say I wonder what all those VOTERS in Ohio, West Virigina and Pennsylvania feel about Obama's forcing the coal industry to go out of business?
Oh. Wait. That's right, they don't know about it cause the MSM, Arlen Specter, Robert "sheets" Byrd and Dick Durbin haven't told 'em yet!
And yeseree bob, the folks in the steel industry are gonna be just thrilled about it too!
Obama and the LEFT will NEVER go for nuclear power NEVER - even though France gets over 75% of it's electrical energy from nuclear power and has found a way to dispose of nuclear waste and never had any incident at a nuclear plant, the Dems don't want anything to do with nuclear power because, among other things, IT WORKS. Solar, Wind, and true geothermal are all, at this point in time, pipe dreams (pun intended) for those who follow the leader riding the Unicorn.

719 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:30:20am

re: #682 HoosierHoops

Where Michael Moore always goes for healthcare..Cuba.

So does that mean that Cuba has Lypo suction? Michael could use to lose some of that gross tonnage he's hauling around. The post office is about to award the bastard with his own zip code.

/S

720 ggt  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:30:21am

re: #680 yma o hyd

This year, the effen Beeb has pulled out of showing it, because of concern for some breeds.
Yes, tehre are some abd breeders, yes there are big health problems in some breeds, but not showing this means that all those of us who lvoe seeing the agility, Flyball and Obedience Championships won't be seeing anything at all.

Mind - actually going there is amazing! I've been a few times, not showing or anything, just meeting dogs. Got slobbered over by all 14 St Bernhards on one visit ...

Two of my favorite T-shirts that can only been seen at dog training and dog "events"

Alpha Bitch

and

Veteran Bitvch

721 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:30:39am

re: #684 CapeCoddah

Guess what everyone? We here in Taxachusetts are getting a new Carbon Fee to park at the airport!
[Link: www.boston.com...]

They are also considering coming into our homes and taxing us on our "Stuff". For instance, if you have a subzero refrigerator instead of say, a whirlpool, you will be taxed on the extravagance, over and above the Massachusetts 5+% sales and added luxury tax on such items. Sweet, huh?

We fly out of Manchester. It is closer, and a lot cheaper to park. Take that, Deval.
And all this will do is push people to buy high-end stuff in NH, and not from a chain. (If a store has presence in MA, and they deliver to MA, they have to take the tax.) I think maybe I'll open a high-end appliance store just over the border.

722 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:30:42am

re: #697 Occasional Reader

Simply incredible. Out and out class warfare. Oh, and of course this perverse incentive will be great for boosting consumer spending and helping the economy recover, won't it.

Should bring the economy RIGHT back to life!//

723 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:30:56am

re: #709 ggt

Hey Honcos! It is cold in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

It's still early for me. Can someone explain how this is an apology?

""To the extent that my remarks helped the Democrats in Washington to take the focus, even for one minute, off of their irresponsible expansion of government, I truly apologize," Steele said late Monday."

Good answer by Steele!

724 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:30:57am

re: #710 ArmyWife

Hope and Change Alert!

Russia says "F you, Obama and the train you rode in on!"

Ok, not really. But close! [Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

KICK ME diplomacy. Feeling proud, America?

725 abaleh  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:31:07am

re: #690 Kenneth

Unless they have a second enrichment facility somewhere else. The inspectors have only seen what they are permitted to see and they have been refused entry to specific sights several times.

like this one, or the one they may have built to replace it once the IAEA found it?

726 avanti  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:31:20am

re: #656 Kenneth

The Iranians just launched a satellite. That's the same thing as an ICBM. They have enough low enriched uranium to build at least one bomb, it does require further enrichment, which would take a few months to a few years depending upon their capacity. We don't know what their full capacity is because they won't allow thorough inspections. Furthermore, the Iranians could buy fissile material from the North Koreans who could always use the cash.

Secondly, it will take several months to install the missile defense system. Which is why we have to start now, in order to have it in place by the time Iran unequivocally has nuclear missiles.

Other then the comment that launching a satellite being the same as a ICBM I agree with your post. It'll be years before they can make a small missile deliverable warhead, plenty of time to build a defense or better yet take out the lauch site, unless we're speculating a fleet of Iranian ballistic missile subs.

727 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:32:00am

re: #698 aussiemagpie

You got it! {aussie}
Can you feel the fallish weather there yet? Cause we're tired of you hogging all this global warming...it's our turn!

728 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:32:10am

re: #705 J.S.

Rebuild what? The place wasn't destroyed in the first place. Nearly all the damage was limited to Hamas related buildings & facilities. The civilians were largely unharmed.

THE GAZA I saw was societally intact. There were no homeless, walking wounded, hungry or underdressed people. The streets were busy, shops were hung with embroidered dresses and gigantic cooking pots, the markets were full of fresh meat and beautiful produce - the red radishes were bigger than grapefruits. Mothers accompanied by a 13-year-old boy told me they were bored of leaving home to sit on rubble all day to tell the press how they'd survived.

729 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:32:19am

re: #684 CapeCoddah

Guess what everyone? We here in Taxachusetts are getting a new Carbon Fee to park at the airport!
[Link: www.boston.com...]

They are also considering coming into our homes and taxing us on our "Stuff". For instance, if you have a subzero refrigerator instead of say, a whirlpool, you will be taxed on the extravagance, over and above the Massachusetts 5+% sales and added luxury tax on such items. Sweet, huh?

I can't find anything on that. Where'd you get it?

730 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:32:31am

re: #692 CapeCoddah

The wind is much better south of Nantucket, where it is not surrounded by land masses, but in open ocean.

But that is too far out; the cables bringing power to shore would be too long and make the project uneconomical.

731 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:32:51am

re: #626 yma o hyd
Hi there {yma} - love the cartoon - and it's always good to see you out here!

732 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:33:01am

re: #663 CapeCoddah

Good Morning everyone!
Ping, the site for that proposed wind farm is totally inappropriate. There are literally hundreds of other perfect sites here, but these idiots want to put it smack dab in the middle of shipping, flight paths and the pristine water view the Cape is famous for. It will drive home values down further because of the visual pollution.
It pains me to say it, but Flipper Kennedy is right about this one.

I don't know, it has been approved by the US minerals managment service as well as the Mass office of coastal zone management. So the enviromental impact has been studied and minimized the only hurdle now is the NIMBY attitude. If they kill this project that would employ hundreds of union construction workers as well as provide a reliable and workable green alternative the Dems will pretty much give alot of their supporters a slap in the face. You can learn more about Cape Winds here.


[Link: www.capewind.org...]

733 ggt  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:33:15am

re: #696 Kosh's Shadow

They do "strut" don't they? Horses do the same thing. I used think I was projecting as animals couldn't be so vain.

I've owned a couple champions and when they get in the ring, they absolutely "strut."

Then they come home and roll in mud then try to get on the couch.

734 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:33:30am

re: #707 jaunte

As an example, Time still refers to Mohammed ElBaradei as a 'watchdog.'
[Link: www.time.com...]

Mo ElBar: watchdog.

735 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:33:52am

re: #637 jorline
Good luck my friend - and if you feel up to it, an e-mail from you after the meeting with the doc, would be much appreciated!

736 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:34:24am

Any lizards out there now how to quit Face Book, I just got a shock about twenty minutes ago. I'm not happy about it.

737 Pyrocles  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:34:32am

Silly lawhawk, we have no "enemies"; they're all in your head. Boo! And any interests you feel that we need to protect are simply manifestations of your greed for Amerikkkan imperialism. Nothing needs to be "protected" by anyone or any kind of impossible-to-produce missile defense system! The continued delusional paranoia of the Right breed irrational fear; which breeds hate; which leads to oppression and discrimination!

/Leftist mode off.

/heads to toilet to vomit

re: #675 lawhawk

738 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:34:37am

re: #696 Kosh's Shadow

One of our standard poodles comes from a good line; his father was a champion (and his uncles were hunters; he has a strong hunting instinct).
We don't show our dogs, though. But our vet breeds champion Borzois, and it seems every time we have an emergency they're at a dog show.

Watching the poodles move is something, although that show cut looks absurd. The dogs act like they look great, though. We don't get ours groomed like that, but the dog I mentioned initially gets upset if he isn't groomed first, and he struts afterwards like he knows he looks good.

Borzois - very elegant looking dogs, pity they're as thick as two planks!
Dogs who are being shown do enjoy being in the spotlight. If they don't they won't win on the minor shows and thus won't get the necessarry certificates to go to Crufts. So I'm not surprised that that dog loved ahving that (silly) cut!
Ours, being rcross breeds, have only gone to obedience shows.
Pity that ther ules forbid having or giving a treat in the ring during the obedience exercise - otherwise Big Dog could have gone to Crufts! But being not just very clever but also food obsessed, his whole demeanout said:'I know I can do this - you know I can do this - I've got the rosettes. No food - no deal.' And that was that ...

Madame, on the other hand, was very good on the lead - off the lead she insisted on greeting judge, steward and anybody else around by jumping up and licking their faces.
Null points.
AARRGGHH!

739 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:34:59am

re: #736 Dustyvet

Any lizards out there now how to quit Face Book, I just got a shock about twenty minutes ago. I'm not happy about it.

Why do you want to quit Dv?

740 bellamags  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:35:02am

re: #736 Dustyvet

Any lizards out there now how to quit Face Book, I just got a shock about twenty minutes ago. I'm not happy about it.

What happened?

741 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:35:21am

re: #721 Kosh's Shadow

We fly out of Manchester. It is closer, and a lot cheaper to park. Take that, Deval.
And all this will do is push people to buy high-end stuff in NH, and not from a chain. (If a store has presence in MA, and they deliver to MA, they have to take the tax.) I think maybe I'll open a high-end appliance store just over the border.

Kosh, I run a limo company. I have been buying gas, hubby's beer, cigarettes, groceries and everything else in Rhode Island. I will not spend another nickel I am not forced to in this state, with the exception of a few local mom and pop businesses. Deval can go... well, you know what I mean.

742 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:35:44am

re: #645 Occasional Reader
"Howdy" and "dang" - ok, who are you and what have you done with our Ocassional Reader?!

743 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:35:51am

re: #726 avanti

It'll be years before they can make a small missile deliverable warhead

You're assuming they'll have to design one from scratch.

Awfully dangerous assumption.

744 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:35:58am
745 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:36:05am

re: #704 CapeCoddah

Got it. We also have capped oil wells off the Cape. I say fire those suckers up. They were drilled and capped when I was a kid. WE NEED TO DRILL OUR OWN OIL.

They fight the proposed wind farm, but you think Kerry and Kennedy will allow oil rigs to go up in the Cape Cod Bay.

746 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:36:11am

re: #709 ggt

Hey Honcos! It is cold in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

It's still early for me. Can someone explain how this is an apology?

""To the extent that my remarks helped the Democrats in Washington to take the focus, even for one minute, off of their irresponsible expansion of government, I truly apologize," Steele said late Monday."

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

I expected to see a thread on Steele and Limbaugh when I got here this morning too, but nothing. Maybe later, at any rate Avanti is defending O's Missile Defense Negotiating 101 skills and Kenneth and Lawhawk are taking him to task on it.

747 Learned Mother of Zion  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:36:33am

re: #552 pingjockey

He's a fucking baby seal in world populated with polar bears Canadian fur trappers.

748 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:36:43am

re: #736 Dustyvet

Any lizards out there now how to quit Face Book, I just got a shock about twenty minutes ago. I'm not happy about it.

Without revealing anything you don't want to reveal, what sort of shock do you mean?

I ask because so far I have never done the Facebook thing, and was considering it. (And unfortunately, due to that, I don't know the answer to your question.)

749 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:36:51am

re: #739 Erik The Red

Why do you want to quit Dv?

I received a friend request from somebody I used to have a relationship with, I've not heard a word from her since 2004, that is until this morning.

750 bellamags  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:37:31am

re: #749 Dustyvet

I received a friend request from somebody I used to have a relationship with, I've not heard a word from her since 2004, that is until this morning.

ooo. don't accept it. she can't see your stuff unless you allow it.

751 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:37:32am

re: #727 Beach Lover

You got it! {aussie}
Can you feel the fallish weather there yet? Cause we're tired of you hogging all this global warming...it's our turn!

It's a mild night here darls, but I think I'd better find those bedsocks soon!

The only indication of autumn so far is the few deciduous trees around our way are dropping leaves, and lovely frangipani tree has fewer flowers

The days are warm...you can have some soon just not before Easter thanks!

752 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:37:32am

re: #744 buzzsawmonkey

"I wish I could quit you..."

Heh?

753 opnion  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:37:32am

Good Morning Comrades. All report to their assigned reeducation camps.
Next stop the Gulag.

754 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:37:42am

re: #749 Dustyvet

I received a friend request from somebody I used to have a relationship with, I've not heard a word from her since 2004, that is until this morning.

Just ignore the request. Easy no friend and can not see your profile.

755 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:37:43am

re: #726 avanti

Other then the comment that launching a satellite being the same as a ICBM I agree with your post. It'll be years before they can make a small missile deliverable warhead, plenty of time to build a defense or better yet take out the lauch site, unless we're speculating a fleet of Iranian ballistic missile subs.

They know the trick to make a missile-deliverable warhead. Besides, they have Khan's plans, and they can go ask him for more info anytime.

756 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:37:55am

re: #716 karmic_inquisitor

That was a really good article, emailed that to turnspawn earlier today.

757 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:38:00am

re: #729 Killer Tomato

I can't find anything on that. Where'd you get it?

I still have to look it up, It was on my local radio show this morning, they have not posted the podcast yet, and I missed where the story originated

758 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:38:08am

re: #726 avanti

Or how about an Iranian cargo container with a nuke inside, on a ship, detonating in the port of LA?

BTW, the design the Iranians got from AQ Khan was compact enough to fit on a missile. You are content to believe the best-case most optimistic scenarios. I prefer to work from more realistic estimations.

759 abaleh  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:38:12am

re: #705 J.S.

Clinton's pledges to "rebuild" Gaza is utterly unbelievable -- have the Gazans rebuild! Hold the Gazans accountalbe. They're not children who need tending. Then she's offering these murderous monsters close to a billion dollars! For what? Escalating the scale of their murdering capacities? It's insane. (Now, btw, there are reports that the U.S. will begin "talks" with Syria. Talks about what precisely? How to destroy Israel? The U.S. wants now to "reach out" to murderous thugs. Maybe Syria will figure it's being given a green light for a re-invasion of Lebanon...)

meanwhile millions of Sudanese refugees (real refugees, not the UNRWA definition), are living in tents, after an estimated 200,000 (estimates vary by a lot) have been killed.
Does anybody have a figure on how much money has been pledged for their benefit?

760 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:38:18am

re: #741 CapeCoddah

Kosh, I run a limo company. I have been buying gas, hubby's beer, cigarettes, groceries and everything else in Rhode Island. I will not spend another nickel I am not forced to in this state, with the exception of a few local mom and pop businesses. Deval can go... well, you know what I mean.

You won't once Deval gets his tracking chip in place.

761 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:38:21am

re: #754 Erik The Red

Just ignore the request. Easy no friend and can not see your profile.

Okay thanks...

762 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:39:00am

re: #684 CapeCoddah

Guess what everyone? We here in Taxachusetts are getting a new Carbon Fee to park at the airport!
[Link: www.boston.com...]

They are also considering coming into our homes and taxing us on our "Stuff". For instance, if you have a subzero refrigerator instead of say, a whirlpool, you will be taxed on the extravagance, over and above the Massachusetts 5+% sales and added luxury tax on such items. Sweet, huh?

Please tell me you are joking. Please tell me this is not really under serious consideration.

763 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:39:19am

just like the old days...grow yer own

"this is gonna be big...really big"

[Link: domesticfuel.com...]

764 NelsFree  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:39:28am

Good Morning all,

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown will visit the Obama White House today. Brown will ask the O for a Global Bailout. After his visit, the PM will stop by the UK Embassy to pick up the bust of Churchill that President Obama had removed.
/

765 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:39:34am

re: #725 abaleh

Excellent link!

766 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:39:35am

re: #736 Dustyvet

Any lizards out there now how to quit Face Book, I just got a shock about twenty minutes ago. I'm not happy about it.

Go into settings and delete your account.

767 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:39:49am

re: #733 ggt

They do "strut" don't they? Horses do the same thing. I used think I was projecting as animals couldn't be so vain.

I've owned a couple champions and when they get in the ring, they absolutely "strut."

Then they come home and roll in mud then try to get on the couch.

That sounds like dogs. I have ones that are corpophages, and others that lick themselves, and then get hurt when you don't let them lick your face.

768 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:39:49am

re: #742 realwest

"Howdy" and "dang" - ok, who are you and what have you done with our Ocassional Reader?!

"I'm an old cowhand
from the Rio Grande..."

769 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:40:07am

re: #720 ggt

Two of my favorite T-shirts that can only been seen at dog training and dog "events"

Alpha Bitch

and

Veteran Bitvch

Nice one!
Mind - going to Crufts one needs to take a second mortgage, there is so much to buy.
Going up on the train, its just your normal commuter grimness.
Coming back, everybody laden with bags and stuff, its one big chattering trainful of total strangers, all talking about their dogs.
Really enjoyable!

770 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:40:09am

re: #766 reine.de.tout

Go into settings and delete your account.

Thanks...:)

771 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:40:16am
772 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:40:22am

re: #757 CapeCoddah

I still have to look it up, It was on my local radio show this morning, they have not posted the podcast yet, and I missed where the story originated

OK thanks.
I didn't want to get the usual 'nu-huh' from moonbat coworkers without a place to point to.
Michael Graham?

773 avanti  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:40:23am

re: #701 Kenneth

Time is not sober, it's drunk on Obama flavored Kool-Aid.

How about Gates ?

"Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who like Mullen appeared on the Sunday talk shows, did not go as far as Mullen. The Iranians, Gates said, are “not close to a weapon at this point and so there is some time” for continued diplomatic efforts."

774 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:40:37am

re: #745 soxfan4life

They fight the proposed wind farm, but you think Kerry and Kennedy will allow oil rigs to go up in the Cape Cod Bay.

We will not have to worry about Kennedy much longer, god bless him, but, that reign is almost at an end. There will be a special election, and I am guessing with the mood against dems in Massachusetts right now, we are gonna see the first republican senator since cave man times here. The wells are outside the bay, off of George's Bank

775 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:40:50am

re: #759 abaleh

Dude, the people in Darfur are not attacking Israel, so there is no incentive for the UN, the EU or the Obama admin to support them. Geesh.

///

776 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:40:52am

re: #718 realwest

HI Realwest.

The democrats do not know how to go about things in an appropriate manner. They are hell bent on destroying an industry over-night and replacing it with something that isn't even on-line. This is just MY opinion - but I do think coal is dirty and should be, for the most part, phased out. I realize jobs will be lost and that is painful and I don't like it. Folks in the coal industry should have a place to go (just like any industry that is phased out and replaced by another - happens all the time)
You are correct - the democrats HATE the idea of Nuclear power - they are scared of it. Some solar and wind is fine, but we cannot run large cities on it.
The democrats are animated by raising energy costs and taxes in order to force their initiatives through. It will not work. Conservatives should get in front of this issue and take the bull by the horns. First off is admitting that coal is dirty. (again -this is just my opinion, I realize it won't be popular here) The right should be open to re-newable energy without jumping on the hysterics bandwagon.

777 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:41:00am

re: #761 Dustyvet

Okay thanks...

You can go even further and "block" this person entirely. go into privacy settings and you can "block" the email addy, the person cannot even "see" that you are on facebook

778 Erik The Red  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:41:09am

re: #761 Dustyvet

Go join LGF Face Book page. Find me (hint first name) and add me to you friends list. Look Here LGF FB Page

779 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:41:16am

re: #652 rw in san diego
Hey good morning rw! Uh, what's a BFF ? Anyway, yes it's unusual for us to get so much snow and frigid temps (14 this morning) this late in the year down here!
How are you doing today?

780 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:41:22am

re: #769 yma o hyd

Nice one!
Mind - going to Crufts one needs to take a second mortgage, there is so much to buy.
Going up on the train, its just your normal commuter grimness.
Coming back, everybody laden with bags and stuff, its one big chattering trainful of total strangers, all talking about their dogs.
Really enjoyable!

Did Madame get to go?

781 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:41:31am

re: #758 Kenneth

Or how about an Iranian cargo container with a nuke inside, on a ship, detonating in the port of LA?

In all fairness... of course, missile defense would be not directly counter that particular threat.

782 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:41:46am

re: #749 Dustyvet

can't you just hit the "ignore" key?

783 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:42:19am

re: #745 soxfan4life

They fight the proposed wind farm, but you think Kerry and Kennedy will allow oil rigs to go up in the Cape Cod Bay.

Also, the wind farm is proposed for Nantucket sound, which blocks the Kennedy view, in fact puts the turbines right in his lap, the Bay is to the north, he would not be affected.

784 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:42:36am

re: #731 realwest

Hi there {yma} - love the cartoon - and it's always good to see you out here!

Hia, {rw}!
I'm glad you're feeling better today - is Spring coming to your part of the World?

A neighbour helped me tidy the garden this morning - and then it started raining! So - its only half done.
Still, better than snow, I reckon ...

785 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:42:37am

re: #771 buzzsawmonkey

It's the famous line from "Brokeback Mountain" where one of the guys is frustrated that he can't let himself end the relationship.

I was just applying it to wanting to get off of Facebook, since in my experience it is difficult to fully quit any of these lovely online things one ends up signing up for.

Oh...:)

786 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:42:58am

HEY Y'ALL - HERE'S A GREAT IDEA! Why don't you all go get some more coffee - seriously, take your time, give me at least a chance to catch up PLEASE?!?!

787 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:43:04am

re: #736 Dustyvet

Any lizards out there now how to quit Face Book, I just got a shock about twenty minutes ago. I'm not happy about it.

Goodness that sounds crook! Not a scammer perhaps?
Hope you're OK...

788 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:43:14am

re: #771 buzzsawmonkey

since in my experience it is difficult to fully quit any of these lovely online things one ends up signing up for.

See my nickname, and total number of posts, for proof of that theory.

789 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:43:20am

Morning all.

Realwest, I drove down to Charlotte during the snowstorm. Took me 3.5 hours of single lane, I-85 driving. Visibility about one car length. Finally made it to the airport (passing scores, if not hundreds, of spun-out/abandoned vehicles) where I waited 2 hours for the (late) plane to land, then another hour while the passengers sat on the tarmac waiting for a gate to become available. All the while, watching the snow pile up around me. Picked up the wife and headed back towards Winston. Made it about a mile before visibility and traction were were at zero. White-knuckled it to three hotels before we found one with a vacancy.
So, after spending about 12 hours in Charlotte I have seen only the interior of a Days Inn economy unit. I'm sure the rest of the city is a bit nicer.

790 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:43:50am

re: #772 Killer Tomato

OK thanks.
I didn't want to get the usual 'nu-huh' from moonbat coworkers without a place to point to.
Michael Graham?

www.95wxtk.com
Ed Lambert show podcasts. He is a retired Naval commander, and has had a show here for 15 years or so. Great show local Cape show.

791 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:44:16am

re: #768 Occasional Reader

"I'm an old cowhand
from the Rio Grande..."

I liked that

792 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:44:22am

re: #751 aussiemagpie

Oh,,alright. I'll try to be patient!

793 avanti  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:44:27am

re: #755 Kosh's Shadow

They know the trick to make a missile-deliverable warhead. Besides, they have Khan's plans, and they can go ask him for more info anytime.

Could you provide a link to any intelligence that suggests that ?

794 abaleh  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:44:35am

re: #781 Occasional Reader

In all fairness... of course, missile defense would be not directly counter that particular threat.

Bombing the crap out of production facilities will.
Increasing the scope of sanctions and enforcing them will.

795 J.S.  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:44:46am

re: #728 Kenneth

Indeed...rebuild what. (That meeting at Sharm El-Sheikh raised nearly 5 billion dollars for the Perpetual Palestinian Welfare Bums. No doubt the European antisemites will be expecting "results." and it won't be measured in "buildings." You know a while ago, 7 years ago?, I was sort of on-side of Bush's pledge for a "two-state" solution...remember that Bush speech on the White House lawn? Well, today, I am thoroughly opposed to the creation of a terrorist Palestinian state. I consider it a personal red line which cannot be crossed.)

796 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:45:18am

re: #778 Erik The Red

Go join LGF Face Book page. Find me (hint first name) and add me to you friends list. Look Here LGF FB Page

Does you last name start with H?

797 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:45:26am

re: #760 soxfan4life

You won't once Deval gets his tracking chip in place.

Magnets wreak havoc on microchips

798 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:45:44am

re: #773 avanti

How about Gates ?

"Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who like Mullen appeared on the Sunday talk shows, did not go as far as Mullen. The Iranians, Gates said, are “not close to a weapon at this point and so there is some time” for continued diplomatic efforts."

Erm, I guess there's always the possibility that a member of, you know, Obama's cabinet might have to parrot Obama's (wishful) thinking?

So you really are willing to trade in everything we've invested in missile defense, for a mess of pottage Russian promise to firmly ask the Iranians to be nice?

799 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:46:06am

re: #762 reine.de.tout

Please tell me you are joking. Please tell me this is not really under serious consideration.

Sorry Reine, Welcome to Massachusetts!

800 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:46:28am

re: #790 CapeCoddah

Doubt I can pick it up on the car radio up here!
Thanks ~

801 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:46:30am

re: #759 abaleh

meanwhile millions of Sudanese refugees (real refugees, not the UNRWA definition), are living in tents, after an estimated 200,000 (estimates vary by a lot) have been killed.
Does anybody have a figure on how much money has been pledged for their benefit?

Certainly nothing like the Gazans and the palestinians have been getting, before Operation Cast Lead and especially now.

Democratic Republic Congo - anything?
Zimbabwe? No?
See - thuggery gets its reward, but not in the way we'd 'reward' it.

802 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:46:33am

The woman in Buffalo whose head was chopped off by her husband, the Bridges TV guy, had filed a report on him in 2007, while she was visiting relatives here (in Flower Mound, near Lewisville):

Woman beheaded at Buffalo TV station had reported spousal abuse to Flower Mound police

803 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:46:34am

re: #659 aussiemagpie
Hey {aussie} thanks and here's a *smoooch* back to you too!
Hope you're doing well. I heard that they have those fires under control down under?!

804 opnion  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:46:35am

I must admit that I was dubious about what I considered exaggerated claims about Global Warming. When the teriminology flipped to 'Climate Change", I still did not get onboard.
But then I had an Epihany this morning listening to actress Daryl Hannah on FNC. She informred that the proper trerm is "Climate Chaos." Nuff said.

805 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:46:38am

re: #648 yma o hyd

"Gaddafi Stadium"? Is this named after the Libyan Messiah?

806 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:46:49am

re: #774 CapeCoddah

We will not have to worry about Kennedy much longer, god bless him, but, that reign is almost at an end. There will be a special election, and I am guessing with the mood against dems in Massachusetts right now, we are gonna see the first republican senator since cave man times here. The wells are outside the bay, off of George's Bank

I thought after Romney left the state legislature put it back on the Gov. when the possibility of replacing John Kerry was a thought. Wouldn't want the Dems to leave something like an election to chance. I thought the word was Martha Coakley was considered a favorite to take the Senators job. Makes me pray for teddy to hanfg in there as long as he can.

807 Wishing  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:46:52am

re: #681 avanti

"So when do we start worrying? As this sober analysis in Time points out, almost 800 kilograms of low-enriched uranium has passed through the centrifuges at Natanz, and those stocks are monitored and under seal. For Iran to make a single, crude bomb, it would need highly enriched uranium. That would mean kicking out international inspectors, reconfiguring the cascades and re-enriching the low-enriched material. Experts reckon it would take months for that to happen, enough time for a dramatic international response. Even if successful in developing a Hiroshima-style device, Iran would not have anything that could be packaged on, say, a ballistic missile. "

Do you have your wife in a hijab, by any chance?

808 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:47:03am

re: #760 soxfan4life

You won't once Deval gets his tracking chip in place.

Please tell me you're joking.

809 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:47:06am

re: #730 Kosh's Shadow

But that is too far out; the cables bringing power to shore would be too long and make the project uneconomical.

Then drop it altogether. It is NOT a project for Nantucket sound.

810 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:47:36am

re: #773 avanti

I would have to think that Mullen & Gates talked about the estimates. It is a standard procedure in applying diplomatic pressure to an uncooperative regime to have different members of your own side say different things. The Iranian regime is very factional and paranoid. By presenting a shifting bargaining position, you are attempting to open fissures within that regime. The fanatics will take a hardline position, while the more practical factions might try to take advantage of a perceived diplomatic opening. All the while, nobody in the Iranian regime knows for sure where the US redline is. That tends to limit their behavior more so than a clearly articulated redline does, which the Iranian will then attempt to play against.

811 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:48:05am

Morning, Lizards. How's everyone been?

812 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:48:09am

re: #793 avanti

Could you provide a link to any intelligence that suggests that ?

Yeah, Kosh's Shadow, can't you provide a link to classified intelligence briefings?

///

813 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:48:13am

re: #680 yma o hyd

This year, the effen Beeb has pulled out of showing it, because of concern for some breeds.
Yes, tehre are some abd breeders, yes there are big health problems in some breeds, but not showing this means that all those of us who lvoe seeing the agility, Flyball and Obedience Championships won't be seeing anything at all.

Mind - actually going there is amazing! I've been a few times, not showing or anything, just meeting dogs. Got slobbered over by all 14 St Bernhards on one visit ...

I wouldn't surprised if the Beeb stopped showing it because dogs are haraam. Wouldn't want to upset their new overlords.

814 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:48:37am

re: #804 opnion

I must admit that I was dubious about what I considered exaggerated claims about Global Warming. When the teriminology flipped to 'Climate Change", I still did not get onboard.
But then I had an Epihany this morning listening to actress Daryl Hannah on FNC. She informred that the proper trerm is "Climate Chaos." Nuff said.

Otherwise know as "Weather".

815 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:49:07am

re: #792 Beach Lover

Oh,,alright. I'll try to be patient!

LOL! You could knit me some new bedsocks while you're waiting... :-)

My favourite ones are missing! They are so glamorous, old and tattered and now faded but so warm!

816 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:49:13am

re: #786 realwest

HEY Y'ALL - HERE'S A GREAT IDEA! Why don't you all go get some more coffee - seriously, take your time, give me at least a chance to catch up PLEASE?!?!

Don't worry Real, ya always got slow poke turn to chat with. Hey are you feeling better, you sounded pretty bad the other day.

817 ggt  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:49:13am

re: #767 Kosh's Shadow

That sounds like dogs. I have ones that are corpophages, and others that lick themselves, and then get hurt when you don't let them lick your face.

I have to get mine back in the obedience ring. I've been terribley lazy in that regard. This miss and I miss the good manners they seem to have forgotten . . .

818 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:49:32am

re: #811 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Morning, Lizards. How's everyone been?

Battling "climate chaos". Which we used to call "weather".

You?

819 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:49:47am

re: #780 Dustyvet

Did Madame get to go?

Oh no!
Far too many people around - for her to lick!
And far too many dogs for her to get jealous about!
Its absolutely huge - it goes over four days, some dog breeds show up in the thousands.
No, if one's not doing anything, like Flyball or Obedience or so, or exhibiting, best enjoyed without one's four-legged friends.

820 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:49:50am

re: #814 FrogMarch

Otherwise know as "Weather".

bullshit!...weather is only a theory!

821 Golem Akbar  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:49:52am

Good morning Lizards o' the world. Unite! [just thought I'd add that]It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.

822 avanti  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:49:52am
Or how about an Iranian cargo container with a nuke inside, on a ship, detonating in the port of LA?

.

That is a more likely threat, maybe with a Pakistani or Korean nuke.

823 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:49:58am

re: #814 FrogMarch

GMTA!

824 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:49:58am

Morning Honcos...

It's a Brave New World.

LA delivers first designer-baby clinic

The Fertility Institutes' clinic service gives the chance to select physical traits through "cosmetic medicine". Prospective parents can request a son with brown eyes, black hair and a dark complexion, or a pale, blonde, green-eyed daughter.

Besides all the obvious pitfalls, it's Silky Ponies wet dream. He channel the little girl who wanted green eyes but got blue and it'll be worth $20 million.

825 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:50:16am

re: #773 avanti

Also, you have to be careful not to confuse the journalist's spin on what this general or that politician said, with what was actually said. There is often a great distance between the two.

826 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:50:23am

re: #736 Dustyvet

Any lizards out there now how to quit Face Book, I just got a shock about twenty minutes ago. I'm not happy about it.

In settings you can delete your profile...

What happened?

827 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:50:28am

re: #808 Occasional Reader

Please tell me you're joking.


I wish that were the case. He is proposing a chip in your inspection sticker so the State can charge a mileage tax every year when you get your inspection done.The tracking and going after out of state purchases will come later when one of them realizes thew tax monies it will generate.

828 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:50:45am

re: #807 Wishing

Avanti, does it not strike you that EVERY single analysis of Iranian nuclear weapons development has been either flat-out wrong, horribly late in coming, or diluted by ulterior political motives?
The only people who have ever been proven right on Iranian nukes are those who consistently sound the alarm that it's larger and further along than generally accepted.

829 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:51:20am

re: #793 avanti

Could you provide a link to any intelligence that suggests that ?

Here are reports on their bomb work. I believe that the neutron initiator is needed for compact bombs.
The Khan network had designs for such a device, and we're not sure whether it was transferred to Iran, but that seems quite possible.
Link 1
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
Link 3 on Khan's network
You can look for more.

830 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:51:50am

re: #805 quickjustice

"Gaddafi Stadium"? Is this named after the Libyan Messiah?

As its in Pakistan - I'd bet on it!

831 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:52:10am

re: #800 Killer Tomato

Doubt I can pick it up on the car radio up here!
Thanks ~

Where are yo KT?

832 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:52:24am

re: #822 avanti

That is a more likely threat, maybe with a Pakistani or Korean nuke.

Korean? Unlikely. Pakistani? Only if the Taliban got control of the government.

833 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:52:25am

re: #818 Occasional Reader

Battling "climate chaos". Which we used to call "weather".

You?

Dealing with my Mom's illness, her move & now taking care of her animals. Things have been better.

834 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:52:33am

re: #789 Lincolntf
It's really quite lovely...come back in April...the 2nd week. Best time of year here...the azaleas are gorgeous.

835 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:52:36am

Gaaah! Patty Murray and the other dingbat, can't remember her name have an add about how they're voting for UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE. OMG, I hope the frakkin' westsiders are happy with their reps in DC!

836 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:53:18am

re: #803 realwest

Hey {aussie} thanks and here's a *smoooch* back to you too!
Hope you're doing well. I heard that they have those fires under control down under?!

Hi darls, and yes the fires are under control at last!

I'm fine just weary from helping Julie unpack, as she's moved house

And there are thirty steps up to her loft apartment from her front door, so my calf muscles will all toned like Michelle's arms :-)

Which reminds me - time to tone the arms - raise wine glass above head 20 times!

837 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:53:39am

re: #824 jcm

Besides all the obvious pitfalls, it's Silky Ponies wet dream. He channel the little girl who wanted green eyes but got blue and it'll be worth $20 million.

Frankly, if Silky Pony wanted to sue the creeps running this clinic, I'd be all for it.

838 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:53:42am

re: #789 Lincolntf

Sounds like a scene from Trains, Planes, and Automobiles. Wow, what a horrible trip. I had a similar driving experience in snow over the Sierras one winter, ended up turning my ice chest into a toilet.

839 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:53:42am

re: #806 soxfan4life

I thought after Romney left the state legislature put it back on the Gov. when the possibility of replacing John Kerry was a thought. Wouldn't want the Dems to leave something like an election to chance. I thought the word was Martha Coakley was considered a favorite to take the Senators job. Makes me pray for teddy to hanfg in there as long as he can.

Nope, Special election within 60 days. The dems put in place so Romney could not appoint a republican if Kerry won the presidency. It will now backfire in their faces.

840 avanti  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:53:54am

re: #810 Kenneth

I would have to think that Mullen & Gates talked about the estimates. It is a standard procedure in applying diplomatic pressure to an uncooperative regime to have different members of your own side say different things. The Iranian regime is very factional and paranoid. By presenting a shifting bargaining position, you are attempting to open fissures within that regime. The fanatics will take a hardline position, while the more practical factions might try to take advantage of a perceived diplomatic opening. All the while, nobody in the Iranian regime knows for sure where the US redline is. That tends to limit their behavior more so than a clearly articulated redline does, which the Iranian will then attempt to play against.

That is a insightful interpretation I would have missed. thanks.

841 ggt  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:53:57am

re: #769 yma o hyd

Nice one!
Mind - going to Crufts one needs to take a second mortgage, there is so much to buy.
Going up on the train, its just your normal commuter grimness.
Coming back, everybody laden with bags and stuff, its one big chattering trainful of total strangers, all talking about their dogs.
Really enjoyable!

The closest I've been to a big dog show is watching (on TV) my dog's 1/2 brother win Best-of-Group at Westminster and make it into the final go around. Didn't place but it was exciting!

One thing I've noticed about the dog world is that the only thing that people care about is "the dog". I don't know the profession of most of the people I meet at the training center and I used to see them every week.

842 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:53:58am

re: #827 soxfan4life

I wish that were the case. He is proposing a chip in your inspection sticker so the State can charge a mileage tax every year when you get your inspection done.The tracking and going after out of state purchases will come later when one of them realizes thew tax monies it will generate.

Well here's something for entreprenurial minded young people to get into!
Remember rum runners?
Kids can get themselves souped up cars and run goods into Mass under the cover of darkness...

843 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:54:02am

re: #819 yma o hyd

Oh no!
Far too many people around - for her to lick!
And far too many dogs for her to get jealous about!
Its absolutely huge - it goes over four days, some dog breeds show up in the thousands.
No, if one's not doing anything, like Flyball or Obedience or so, or exhibiting, best enjoyed without one's four-legged friends.

Don't know if you can do this in Wales, we have two "Pet Stores" both national chains, that allow you to bring your dog or cat to the store while you shop.

844 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:54:39am

re: #801 yma o hyd

One other thing to bear in mind is that despite the fact that billions have been pledged, it's likely that many of the countries - especially the Arab regimes - will reneg on their pledges. The actual money likely wont come for years to come. It's a promise, which is bad enough.

These people should not be given a penny for the damage they have inflicted on themselves. It would be much better served going to folks in Darfur or to help Zimbabweans displaced by Mugabe or to the people of Burma subjugated by the junta there. Anywhere but the Palestinians who are responsible for the situation they now face. They are the last ones deserving of a bailout.

845 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:54:42am

re: #831 CapeCoddah

New Hampshire

846 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:54:57am

re: #684 CapeCoddah
Only in Mass. - I hope - what do you all expect when you keep electing morons up there?
Geebus, forget about Patrick -as stupid as he his and just relect on how long your state has been reprenseted in the US Senate by Kennedy and Kerry. Or their equivalvents (John F. being one of them)!
What do Mass voters EXPECT when they keep electing idiots to office?!

847 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:55:03am

re: #813 Ward Cleaver

I wouldn't surprised if the Beeb stopped showing it because dogs are haraam. Wouldn't want to upset their new overlords.

Nope, sorry, its really been a huge thing last summer, and the major sponsor - Pedigree Chum - has also pulled out, as have various dog charities.
I've got to say that this ahs been stewing in the background for some years, and the Kennel Club, who runs the show, had ample time to do something about these breeding standards.

No, the home-grown islamists are innocent - this time!

848 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:55:06am
849 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:55:06am

re: #826 tfc3rid

In settings you can delete your profile...

What happened?

A voice from the past, I don't want anything to do with.

850 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:55:22am

re: #839 CapeCoddah
Are the folks there pissed enough to elect a repub?

851 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:55:27am

re: #828 Lincolntf

Avanti, does it not strike you that EVERY single analysis of Iranian nuclear weapons development has been either flat-out wrong, horribly late in coming, or diluted by ulterior political motives?
The only people who have ever been proven right on Iranian nukes are those who consistently sound the alarm that it's larger and further along than generally accepted.

We know the Iranian regime is hostile. We've been at war with them since Nov. 4, 1979. They've been active in that war for 29 years, we barely know it's going on.

Iranian is pursuing nuclear weapons. That is known, and not debated.

What is debated is when Iranian will be operationally a nuclear power. 6 months or 5 years.

Which course of action insures the security of the United States, stability in the Middle East and will prevent a nuclear exchange?

Assuming that Iran will have operational nuclear capability in 6 months.
Or hope it will take them 5 years.

To me it's a no brainier.

852 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:55:38am

re: #833 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Dealing with my Mom's illness, her move & now taking care of her animals. Things have been better.

Sorry to hear it.

Silver lining? Think of the animals as "emergency protein sources".

//

853 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:55:49am

re: #824 jcm

Morning Honcos...

It's a Brave New World.

LA delivers first designer-baby clinic

Besides all the obvious pitfalls, it's Silky Ponies wet dream. He channel the little girl who wanted green eyes but got blue and it'll be worth $20 million.

"Zo, you vant a designa Baybee? Paging Dr. Mengele, paging Dr. Mengele..."

854 opnion  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:55:57am

re: #814 FrogMarch

Otherwise know as "Weather".

My God, she sounded sooo stupid & she has lost her looks.
A real shame, because she was so pretty. She has really been chowing down.

855 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:56:13am

(How come I'm awake now, after being up until 1:30 last night?
What day is this?
... huh? ... oh, it's Wednesday?
That explains it.)

Good morning, all.
What's happening?

856 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:56:26am

re: #846 realwest

What do Mass voters EXPECT when they keep electing idiots to office?!

Hope! Change! Free stuff!

857 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:56:44am

re: #838 turn

Sounds like a scene from Trains, Planes, and Automobiles. Wow, what a horrible trip. I had a similar driving experience in snow over the Sierras one winter, ended up turning my ice chest into a toilet.

one of the best movies ever...truly a classic

858 alegrias  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:56:54am

Ugh, just walked through a rich Northwest Washington DC neighborhood full of SUVs with "Proud Obamamama" bumperstickers, and Obama's "O" symbol flags draped over the house entryway.

Mugabenomics, here we come. Seriously, Carter's disciple Mugabe has set an example Obama is emulating early.

859 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:56:55am

re: #855 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(How come I'm awake now, after being up until 1:30 last night?
What day is this?
... huh? ... oh, it's Wednesday?
That explains it.)

Good morning, all.
What's happening?

Pssst, it's Tuesday...

860 soxfan4life  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:57:03am

re: #839 CapeCoddah

Nope, Special election within 60 days. The dems put in place so Romney could not appoint a republican if Kerry won the presidency. It will now backfire in their faces.

I'm sure the state legislature will change it before it comes to be. Deval couldn't afford to cost Obama his fillibuster proof majority.

861 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:57:07am

re: #845 Killer Tomato

New Hampshire

Nope, but look online for the podcasts. You can listen to them on the computer without downloading them [Link: www.95wxtk...]

862 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:57:19am

re: #854 opnion
She's had a nose job, according to my better half. Makes her face look fatter!

863 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:57:34am

re: #829 Kosh's Shadow

Here are reports on their bomb work. I believe that the neutron initiator is needed for compact bombs.
The Khan network had designs for such a device, and we're not sure whether it was transferred to Iran, but that seems quite possible.
Link 1
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
Link 3 on Khan's network
You can look for more.

A neutron initiator? You mean like the tritium in the 70,000 exit signs sold by the Canadians to Iran in 2005?

864 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:57:51am

re: #817 ggt

I have to get mine back in the obedience ring. I've been terribley lazy in that regard. This miss and I miss the good manners they seem to have forgotten . . .

Madame has never been truly happy in the obedience ring - but I always do a few exercises, here and there, every day, when we're out. She's fine with all the heel work, recalls, pick-ups - its the stays she hates!

When Big Dog was still alive, I had them do the heelwork and pick ups together - was great fun, Big Dog absolutel loved it! Well, he knew a titbit was going to come his way ...

865 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:57:54am

re: #848 buzzsawmonkey

channeling Sammy Davis, Jr.

Apocryphal story involving Sammy: Once when he was about to begin a game of golf, he was asked what his handicap was. "I'm a one-eyed black Jew. How's that for a handicap?"

866 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:57:55am

re: #852 Occasional Reader

Sorry to hear it.

Silver lining? Think of the animals as "emergency protein sources".

//

Someone get me a rolled up newspaper -
Bad OR! Bad, bad.

867 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:58:05am

re: #849 Dustyvet

A voice from the past, I don't want anything to do with.

Did they ask to be your friend on FB?

868 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:58:22am

re: #832 Ward Cleaver

Korean? Unlikely. Pakistani? Only if the Taliban got control of the government.

We assisted Musharraf with nuclear security. Since therefore we have detailed knowledge of Pakistan's nuclear weapons security, locations etc... I'd bet dollars to donuts we have an extrication plan, should Pakistan fall to far into chaos.

869 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:58:23am

re: #815 aussiemagpie

you must be confusing me with scotttishbuzzsaw! I can't knit...although we the way things are going with our economy, I should probably learn. That and to get back to my farming roots.
*looks out at the red clay, hopelessly

870 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:58:32am

re: #706 {Miss Trixie} Hey Gorgeous! *smooches* back to you - thanks to you and aussiemagpie I'm feeling much warmer than I was, thank you!
How are you and Lil Miss doing- holding on for spring as hard as you can?!

871 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:58:33am

re: #867 Ward Cleaver

Did they ask to be your friend on FB?

Yup

872 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:58:49am

re: #812 Occasional Reader

Yeah, Kosh's Shadow, can't you provide a link to classified intelligence briefings?

///


LOLOL!
I was thinking the same thing!

873 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:58:54am

re: #786 realwest

HEY Y'ALL - HERE'S A GREAT IDEA! Why don't you all go get some more coffee - seriously, take your time, give me at least a chance to catch up PLEASE?!?!


You sure you want the hoopster to drink more coffee..You know me..I'll never shut up!

874 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:59:06am

re: #859 Dustyvet

Pssst, it's Tuesday...

OH M'GAWD!
*head slams onto the keyboard*
zzz

875 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:59:14am

re: #850 pingjockey

Are the folks there pissed enough to elect a repub?

Yep, I posted a remark from a reader of the Boston Herald, one of many, in which the poster was apologizing for voting DEM his entire life, and contributing to the damage. We are having tax proposals put forth here in the last 3 months that will beggar the citizens of this state. Even the dems are pissed now.

876 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:59:15am

Good Lord Lizards! This weekend is turn onto Daylight Savings Time!

877 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:59:24am

re: #804 opnion

I must admit that I was dubious about what I considered exaggerated claims about Global Warming. When the teriminology flipped to 'Climate Change", I still did not get onboard.
But then I had an Epihany this morning listening to actress Daryl Hannah on FNC. She informred that the proper trerm is "Climate Chaos." Nuff said.

If you haven't been there already this AM Drudge has a good link up about a "30 year lull" in global warming. These "scientists" that are so convinced of man made global warming look at climate data that shows a cooling starting and they chalk it up to a "lull" in warming.

878 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:59:36am

re: #862 pingjockey

She's had a nose job, according to my better half. Makes her face look fatter!

maybe she digs the Rocky Marciano look

879 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:59:37am

Bedtime here, so goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!

Tonight's view of OZ

One of the great train journeys of the world, the Indian Pacific taking you from one side of the continent to the other...

880 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:59:46am

re: #861 CapeCoddah

Got it.
Thanks!

881 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 7:59:50am

re: #874 pre-Boomer Marine brat

OH M'GAWD!
*head slams onto the keyboard*
zzz

24 was on last night...:)

882 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:00:18am

re: #836 aussiemagpie

Hi darls, and yes the fires are under control at last!

I'm fine just weary from helping Julie unpack, as she's moved house

And there are thirty steps up to her loft apartment from her front door, so my calf muscles will all toned like Michelle's arms :-)

Which reminds me - time to tone the arms - raise wine glass above head 20 times!

Hiya {aussiemagpie}!

Don't rise that wineglass higher than your mouth, will you!
Wine in one's hair is just not right!

And you can do 20 repeats using your other hand.

:-)))

883 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:00:20am

re: #855 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(How come I'm awake now, after being up until 1:30 last night?
What day is this?
... huh? ... oh, it's Wednesday?
That explains it.)

Good morning, all.
What's happening?

I never replied to your snarky attempt at humor when I was being a good guy and helping Real with his microwave.
///

Okay, I LMAO!

884 Golem Akbar  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:00:23am

A Joke:
Letter from the Boss,

As the CFO of this business that employs 140 people, I have resigned
myself to the fact that Barrack Obama is our President, and
that our taxes and government fees will increase in a BIG way.

To compensate for these increases, I figure that the Clients will have
to see an increase in our fees to them of about 8% but since we cannot increase our fees right now due to the dismal state of our economy, we will have to lay off six of our employees instead. This has really been eating at me for a while, as we believe we are family here and I didn't know how to choose who will have to go.

So, this is what I did. I strolled thru our parking lot and found 8
Obama bumper stickers on our employees' cars and have decided these
folks will be the first to be laid off. I can't think of a more fair
way to approach this problem. These folks wanted change; I gave it to
them.

If you have a better idea, let me know.

Sincerely,

The Boss

885 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:00:54am

re: #850 pingjockey

Are the folks there pissed enough to elect a repub?

The Republicans don't have many good candidates. Too many years of Republican governors looking to move to Washington and not building a party in the state.
I know many of you like Romney, but he left no one but his Lt. Gov, Healy, to run in his place. And she is not exactly competent.
An example: I agree with her on this issue, but she put her case so badly as to damage it. In the discussion of whether to give illegal alien residents resident tuition at state colleges, she asked why they don't just go to private colleges. Idiot. If they can't afford out of state tuition, how can they afford private college tuition?
I agree that they shouldn't get the lower tuition, but come on, this sounds like "Let them eat cake."

886 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:00:56am

Later

887 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:01:13am

re: #863 Kenneth

The health effects of tritium
exposure continue to be a hot topic of debate. It's not strong enough to
penetrate the skin, and in low quantities regulators and industry groups
say tritium is safe. But when inhaled or ingested it can cause permanent
changes to cells and has been linked to genetic abnormalities, developmental and reproductive problems and other health issues such as cancer.

Makes me look at my night sights a little differently...

888 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:01:49am

re: #852 Occasional Reader

Sorry to hear it.

Silver lining? Think of the animals as "emergency protein sources".

//

I will tell goddess.
She will tell Basement Cat.
/it was nice to have known you, OR

889 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:01:51am

re: #810 Kenneth

Did I ever say I learn something new here every day? Nice! Thanks.

890 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:01:53am

re: #871 Dustyvet

Yup

Oh man.

891 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:02:06am

re: #881 Dustyvet

24 was on last night...:)

I have to wait till 24 comes out on DVD.
Did the rumors come true and did it go all green? Or is it still on course and Jack's a badass MoFo kicking ass and taking names?

892 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:02:09am

re: #863 Kenneth

A neutron initiator? You mean like the tritium in the 70,000 exit signs sold by the Canadians to Iran in 2005?

No, the articles describe more. Tritium is used in thermonuclear bombs, but I do not believe the Iranians to be close to those.

893 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:02:27am

re: #840 avanti

That is a insightful interpretation I would have missed. thanks.

You're welcome. That's what we're here for, to provide you with insight.

894 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:02:41am

re: #846 realwest

Only in Mass. - I hope - what do you all expect when you keep electing morons up there?
Geebus, forget about Patrick -as stupid as he his and just relect on how long your state has been reprenseted in the US Senate by Kennedy and Kerry. Or their equivalvents (John F. being one of them)!
What do Mass voters EXPECT when they keep electing idiots to office?!

Real, I will be 42 in a couple of weeks. Kennedy has been a senator from Massachusetts since before I was conceived. I have never seen a republican senator or rep from Massachusetts. Approx 3% of our state legislature is republican. The GOP in Massachusetts holds it's meetings in a phone booth.

895 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:02:47am

re: #841 ggt

The closest I've been to a big dog show is watching (on TV) my dog's 1/2 brother win Best-of-Group at Westminster and make it into the final go around. Didn't place but it was exciting!

One thing I've noticed about the dog world is that the only thing that people care about is "the dog". I don't know the profession of most of the people I meet at the training center and I used to see them every week.

Now that is soo true!
I know all the names of the dogs - just about some names of some dog walkers - but if I meet them in town, without their dogs, I haven't a clue who they are.
Very embarrassing!
The penny only drops when they say 'I'm such-and-such's mum/dad' ...

896 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:03:18am

re: #869 Beach Lover

you must be confusing me with scotttishbuzzsaw! I can't knit...although we the way things are going with our economy, I should probably learn. That and to get back to my farming roots.
*looks out at the red clay, hopelessly

LOL! No I was just joking, didn't confuse you with scottish, and I can't knit either!

Now to bed... :-)

897 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:03:37am

re: #891 jcm

I have to wait till 24 comes out on DVD.
Did the rumors come true and did it go all green? Or is it still on course and Jack's a badass MoFo kicking ass and taking names?

Jack's still a bad ass...:) You can watch 24 on Hulu...:)

898 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:03:48am

re: #860 soxfan4life

I'm sure the state legislature will change it before it comes to be. Deval couldn't afford to cost Obama his fillibuster proof majority.

Damned well better not.

899 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:04:29am

re: #892 Kosh's Shadow

No, the articles describe more. Tritium is used in thermonuclear bombs, but I do not believe the Iranians to be close to those.

Iran is working on a gun type based on available data. A Pu implosion device is far more complicated. A Pu implosion device is the required secondary to make the jump to thermonuclear.

900 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:04:48am

re: #820 albusteve

bullshit!...weather is only a theory!

weather is real. bow down before it!

901 tfc3rid  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:04:49am

re: #891 jcm

I have to wait till 24 comes out on DVD.
Did the rumors come true and did it go all green? Or is it still on course and Jack's a badass MoFo kicking ass and taking names?

It's green but Jack Bauer is still torturing... Last night torturing a Senator's aide who was a traitor with a taser...

902 rw in san diego  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:04:51am

re: #779 realwest

BFF? Best friend forever. LOL. Poplar with the texting generation, including my youngest, who's not really that young. I guess to be more precise, you're my OBFF...online best friend forever!

903 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:05:03am

re: #843 Dustyvet

Don't know if you can do this in Wales, we have two "Pet Stores" both national chains, that allow you to bring your dog or cat to the store while you shop.

Yep - we have that, too.
Unfortunately, they also have rabbits and hamsters ...
And then there's all that food, all those biscuits ...
No, I'm a hard mum - Madame stays here, and I get her food delivered.
Tough cookies.

904 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:05:15am

re: #875 CapeCoddah

A good friend of mine (longtime cop, union rep., holds signs for D's every election) is up in MA.
I talked to him the other day, and he was vociferously denouncing Deval, the Dems, the City (Worcester), etc. He has completely turned around and actually said "I hate the f***ing Democrats". It was like talking to a totally different person than the one I used to debate.

905 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:05:17am

Good morning, all! I have a new family member. He's a 10 wk old black lab pup. We've named him King John (KJ for short) after my favorite British Monarch. He seems to be sucking up nicely to my other 2 dogs so they are accepting him.

It's been a while since I've had a pup this young - I've forgotten the sleepless nights!

906 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:05:28am

re: #901 tfc3rid

It's green but Jack Bauer is still torturing... Last night torturing a Senator's aide who was a traitor with a taser...

And in the White House too...:)

907 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:05:38am

re: #883 jcm

I never replied to your snarky attempt at humor when I was being a good guy and helping Real with his microwave.
///

Okay, I LMAO!

Hi there!

908 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:05:39am

re: #891 jcm

Did the rumors come true and did it go all green? Or is it still on course and Jack's a badass MoFo kicking ass and taking names?

Both.

He's a badass MoFo (and it's embossed right there on his wallet), and during the commercial breaks he appears doing this little mini-infor-propa-mercials about how the set of "24" has "gone green" and you should, too. Gag me.

909 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:05:45am

re: #897 Dustyvet

Jack's still a bad ass...:) You can watch 24 on Hulu...:)

Hulu... never heard of it... checking...

We'll I'll be... THANKS!

910 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:06:35am

re: #885 Kosh's Shadow

The Republicans don't have many good candidates. Too many years of Republican governors looking to move to Washington and not building a party in the state.
I know many of you like Romney, but he left no one but his Lt. Gov, Healy, to run in his place. And she is not exactly competent.
An example: I agree with her on this issue, but she put her case so badly as to damage it. In the discussion of whether to give illegal alien residents resident tuition at state colleges, she asked why they don't just go to private colleges. Idiot. If they can't afford out of state tuition, how can they afford private college tuition?
I agree that they shouldn't get the lower tuition, but come on, this sounds like "Let them eat cake."


Don't forget what he did to us with health care, Kosh. I could not support him because of that.

911 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:06:35am

re: #909 jcm

Hulu... never heard of it... checking...

We'll I'll be... THANKS!

And it's free...:)

912 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:07:11am

re: #892 Kosh's Shadow

Tritium can also be used to boost yields in fission bombs. 2 kilos of tritium in a U235 core will increase the density of neutrons during the initial implosion, resulting in a much bigger bang in a smaller warhead. The Tritium could be in the form of a gas, a liquid, or as a solid compound with lithium.

913 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:07:18am
914 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:07:21am

re: #908 Occasional Reader

Both.

He's a badass MoFo (and it's embossed right there on his wallet), and during the commercial breaks he appears doing this little mini-infor-propa-mercials about how the set of "24" has "gone green" and you should, too. Gag me.

It's gonna be hilarious when the whole "warming" thing is finally outed as a hoax.

915 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:07:52am

re: #892 Kosh's Shadow

Tritium is used in thermonuclear bombs

I think everyone who has ever been involved in producing tritium, and their children, should be thrown into prison!

[hard stare at buzzsawmonkey]

916 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:07:52am

re: #908 Occasional Reader

Both.

He's a badass MoFo (and it's embossed right there on his wallet), and during the commercial breaks he appears doing this little mini-infor-propa-mercials about how the set of "24" has "gone green" and you should, too. Gag me.

That's why I keep watching LOST. Every time a plane goes down, those producers don't mind if a few hundred trees get taken out.

917 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:08:01am

re: #852 Occasional Reader

Sorry to hear it.

Silver lining? Think of the animals as "emergency protein sources".

//

OMG funny! I'll remember that one.

918 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:08:02am

re: #844 lawhawk

One other thing to bear in mind is that despite the fact that billions have been pledged, it's likely that many of the countries - especially the Arab regimes - will reneg on their pledges. The actual money likely wont come for years to come. It's a promise, which is bad enough.

These people should not be given a penny for the damage they have inflicted on themselves. It would be much better served going to folks in Darfur or to help Zimbabweans displaced by Mugabe or to the people of Burma subjugated by the junta there. Anywhere but the Palestinians who are responsible for the situation they now face. They are the last ones deserving of a bailout.

My feelings entirely - couldn't agree more.

And what does it say to all our impoverished pensioners who are not only not getting a bean but have their savings vanish due to near-zero interest rates and tanking stock markets, when they see what amounts of handouts are lavished on those thugs!
Oh - and our oh-so-efficient government has still not paid out the meagre £200 winter fuel help to said pensioners ...

919 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:08:12am

re: #908 Occasional Reader

Both.

He's a badass MoFo (and it's embossed right there on his wallet), and during the commercial breaks he appears doing this little mini-infor-propa-mercials about how the set of "24" has "gone green" and you should, too. Gag me.

I was worried they would turn Jack into Captain Planet.

920 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:08:17am

re: #909 jcm

Hulu... never heard of it... checking...

We'll I'll be... THANKS!

You haven't seen Alec Baldwin touting this in TV ads?

921 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:08:29am

re: #909 jcm

Hulu... never heard of it... checking...

We'll I'll be... THANKS!

It's owned by NBC Universal.

922 ggt  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:08:39am

re: #864 yma o hyd

Madame has never been truly happy in the obedience ring - but I always do a few exercises, here and there, every day, when we're out. She's fine with all the heel work, recalls, pick-ups - its the stays she hates!

When Big Dog was still alive, I had them do the heelwork and pick ups together - was great fun, Big Dog absolutel loved it! Well, he knew a titbit was going to come his way ...

I currently have two --littermates, a boy and a girl. The boy is praise and food motivated, the girl is ball motivated. Food is ok, but the ball is her passion. She even sleeps with it. (Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder if you ask me :0)

923 kansas  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:09:07am

From CNN

Quick Vote
Who do you find more compelling?
First lady Michelle Obama
President Barack Obama

924 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:09:15am

re: #899 jcm

The AQ Khan design was not a gun-type nuke, it was for a spherical implosion warhead.

925 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:09:17am

re: #913 buzzsawmonkey

Can you watch Zulu! on Hulu?

I don't think so, but Star Trek TOS is (really) available. So you can watch Sulu on Hulu.

926 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:09:35am

re: #905 Russkilitlover

Congratulations on your new addition!

927 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:09:57am

re: #904 Lincolntf

A good friend of mine (longtime cop, union rep., holds signs for D's every election) is up in MA.
I talked to him the other day, and he was vociferously denouncing Deval, the Dems, the City (Worcester), etc. He has completely turned around and actually said "I hate the f***ing Democrats". It was like talking to a totally different person than the one I used to debate.

It is happening all over the state, Lincoln. BTW, I hope we are ok after our mini civil war.

928 opnion  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:09:58am

New Illinois Governor Pat Quinn has probably lost his chance to be included any new addition of 'Profiles In Courage."
He was calling for a Special Election to replace Burris. Then a group of Black Ministers met the other day & threatened retribution for anyone not supporting Burris. Yesterday , Quinn met with a grouop of Black office holders. He no longer sees the need for a Special Election.

929 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:10:14am
930 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:10:25am

re: #920 reine.de.tout

You haven't seen Alec Baldwin touting this in TV ads?

Don't watch much TV, I'm still on rabbit ears... If I ever see or hear Baldwin, my audio cortex shuts down...

931 VegasRick  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:10:36am

re: #904 Lincolntf

A good friend of mine (longtime cop, union rep., holds signs for D's every election) is up in MA.
I talked to him the other day, and he was vociferously denouncing Deval, the Dems, the City (Worcester), etc. He has completely turned around and actually said "I hate the f***ing Democrats". It was like talking to a totally different person than the one I used to debate.

That is good news, people are starting to awaken from their slumber.

932 ggt  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:10:54am

gotta go, catch-ya'll later

Have a great moring!

933 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:10:58am

re: #915 Occasional Reader

That would be us Canadians.

934 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:11:06am

re: #927 CapeCoddah

We're fine. We don't even need Reconstruction.

935 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:11:30am

re: #857 albusteve

one of the best movies ever...truly a classic

I must not be the only one who thought this was the funniest scene, its at the top of the search. My brother in law does the best impression of that hick, funny as hell.

936 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:12:04am

re: #910 CapeCoddah

Don't forget what he did to us with health care, Kosh. I could not support him because of that.

And he didn't push through a bill allowing cities and towns to put their employees on the cheaper state health insurance. Small towns (and companies) get screwed with higher rates; this could save them money.
What the Dems finally passed basically gives the unions veto power.
But the unions are finding out that means the towns have to lay off employees because they can't save on health care.

937 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:12:10am

re: #923 kansas

From CNN

Quick Vote
Who do you find more compelling?
First lady Michelle Obama
President Barack Obama

Tough call... they both compel me to scream obscenities.

938 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:12:16am

re: #929 buzzsawmonkey

Hey, what have you got against thermonuclear bombs? They only kept the peace between the US and the Soviets for forty years.

You can't hug children with nuclear arms. And you can't flop onstage in the Catskills with nuclear bombs.

939 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:12:19am

re: #934 Lincolntf

We're fine. We don't even need Reconstruction.

LOL. good. I hate grudges, and reconstruction means yet higher taxes!

940 opnion  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:12:30am

re: #857 albusteve

one of the best movies ever...truly a classic

"Those aren't pillows!"

941 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:12:51am

re: #905 Russkilitlover

Good morning, all! I have a new family member. He's a 10 wk old black lab pup. We've named him King John (KJ for short) after my favorite British Monarch. He seems to be sucking up nicely to my other 2 dogs so they are accepting him.

It's been a while since I've had a pup this young - I've forgotten the sleepless nights!

Awww!
A lab pup - awww!
At least your two other dogs will teach him manners.
However, remembering my puppy-days, all I can say: if he's quiet, he's up to something horrible!

942 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:13:02am

re: #930 jcm

Don't watch much TV, I'm still on rabbit ears... If I ever see or hear Baldwin, my audio cortex shuts down...

Yes, your audio cortex has a lot of sense.

943 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:13:09am

re: #933 Kenneth

That would be us Canadians.

You tritium-spewing hosers!

944 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:13:33am

re: #913 buzzsawmonkey

Can you watch Zulu! on Hulu?

Zulu's don't get on well with Hulu's...we have to keep them seperate

945 VegasRick  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:13:43am

re: #923 kansas

From CNN

Quick Vote
Who do you find more compelling?
A) First lady Michelle Obama
B) President Barack Obama

C)The dogshit on the bottom of my shoe.

C

946 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:13:44am

re: #913 buzzsawmonkey

Can you watch Zulu! on Hulu?

My favorite war movie.

947 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:13:48am

re: #943 Occasional Reader

That's right, we flood our rinks with heavy water. Muahahah!

948 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:13:56am

re: #929 buzzsawmonkey

Hey, what have you got against thermonuclear bombs? They only kept the peace between the US and the Soviets for forty years.

Death toll in wars 1900-August 1945 -- 120,000,000.
Death toll in wars August 1945-1990 -- 17,000,000.

Nuclear weapons have saved more lives, prevent wars, and have generate more peace than all the documents, unclenched fists, and unconditional talks have.

949 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:13:59am

re: #936 Kosh's Shadow

And he didn't push through a bill allowing cities and towns to put their employees on the cheaper state health insurance. Small towns (and companies) get screwed with higher rates; this could save them money.
What the Dems finally passed basically gives the unions veto power.
But the unions are finding out that means the towns have to lay off employees because they can't save on health care.

Yeah, but i do wonder how much he went along with because he was one of like 3 elected republicans in the state. I really don't think he could have stopped anything.

950 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:14:42am

re: #946 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

My favorite war movie.

Because you hate black people and you like watching them get killed.

///

951 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:15:24am

re: #935 turn

I must not be the only one who thought this was the funniest scene, its at the top of the search. My brother in law does the best impression of that hick, funny as hell.


[Video]

there were many gut busting scenes in that movie..the whole thing is just hillarious imo

952 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:15:43am
953 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:15:46am

re: #946 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

My favorite war movie.

954 opnion  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:16:01am

re: #908 Occasional Reader

Both.

He's a badass MoFo (and it's embossed right there on his wallet), and during the commercial breaks he appears doing this little mini-infor-propa-mercials about how the set of "24" has "gone green" and you should, too. Gag me.

Has 24 got you convinced that there are no Muslim Terrorists?
It's either Russian Nationalist's or African Rebels or something.

955 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:16:16am

re: #776 FrogMarch
With all due respect and without going into your personal animus towards coal I AM open to re-newable energy without jumping on the hysterics bandwagon but I want renewable energy that is practical, cost effective and availabile BEFORE we give up our current sources of energy.

956 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:17:03am

re: #946 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

My favorite war movie.

in it's era maybe...Pvt Ryan is mine for now

957 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:17:22am

re: #952 buzzsawmonkey

The right tool for the right job, I say.

Um, you know I'm kidding you, right?

958 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:17:23am

re: #922 ggt

I currently have two --littermates, a boy and a girl. The boy is praise and food motivated, the girl is ball motivated. Food is ok, but the ball is her passion. She even sleeps with it. (Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder if you ask me :0)

Oh sweet! Its funny how possessive dogs can be towards one toy. Madame loved her soft Frisbee to death - chewed it, took it everywhere ...
Big Dog loved all balls, any shape and size. the palyers often abandoned their rugby or footballs in the undergrowth. Bid Dog knew precisely where they were - and wouldn't budge, barking his head off, unless my poor husband waded into the brambles and nettles to get it out.
And the he was soo proud, carrying it in his mouth ...
But food - food, for him, was the tops!

959 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:17:46am

re: #941 yma o hyd

Awww!
A lab pup - awww!
At least your two other dogs will teach him manners.
However, remembering my puppy-days, all I can say: if he's quiet, he's up to something horrible!

He's so fast. One minute he was right under my feet, the next minute he had completely chewed through my purse strap (a purse I foolishly left on the floor). Puppies DO remind you to pick up your things!

960 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:17:51am

re: #905 Russkilitlover

Good choice Russ! I love labs. I named my latest "Luke" when he was a puppy, that quickly morphed into "Precious". As he got older that changed into "Boob" which is pretty much what he goes by now.

961 UFO TOFU  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:18:05am

re: #908 Occasional Reader

and during the commercial breaks he appears doing this little mini-infor-propa-mercials about how the set of "24" has "gone green" and you should, too. Gag me.


Oh brother, guess I'll wait for the dvd then.

962 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:18:24am

re: #955 realwest

With all due respect and without going into your personal animus towards coal I AM open to re-newable energy without jumping on the hysterics bandwagon but I want renewable energy that is practical, cost effective and availabile BEFORE we give up our current sources of energy.

What, you got some problem sitting in the dark and cold waiting for the new sources to come on line?
/

963 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:18:38am

re: #942 reine.de.tout

Yes, your audio cortex has a lot of sense.

I got the cookbook. All the pages were in order, and it had a front and back cover. I burned the fish chapter.

964 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:19:05am

re: #954 opnion

It's either Russian Nationalist's or African Rebels or something.

Or Jon Voight.

But actually, I'm sure that the moonbat chattering classes are already going on about how the idea of black Africans breaking into the White House and taking a pretty little white girl hostage means we're still an institutionally racist country, etc. etc. etc.

965 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:19:07am

re: #962 Killer Tomato

What, you got some problem sitting in the dark and cold waiting for the new sources to come on line?
/

In Sovietobama America, line waits you.

966 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:19:12am

re: #789 Lincolntf
Hey, sorry for your miserable experience, but look at it this way: you know better than to ever stay at a Days Inn again!
/Trying to look on the bright side!

967 avanti  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:19:23am

re: #924 Kenneth

The AQ Khan design was not a gun-type nuke, it was for a spherical implosion warhead.

OK, since some on here know a lot more about warhead design than me, how about a realistic estimate on long it would take Iran to go from a crude nuke to a warhead ? Secondly how could they stage and launch one or more without detection and the resulting vaporization of their country ?

968 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:19:32am

re: #912 Kenneth

Tritium can also be used to boost yields in fission bombs. 2 kilos of tritium in a U235 core will increase the density of neutrons during the initial implosion, resulting in a much bigger bang in a smaller warhead. The Tritium could be in the form of a gas, a liquid, or as a solid compound with lithium.

I didn't know that, OR the link to those classified intelligence reports is right here at LGF.

969 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:19:50am

re: #953 Dustyvet

Fantastic scene!

970 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:20:12am

re: #966 realwest

Hey, sorry for your miserable experience, but look at it this way: you know better than to ever stay at a Days Inn again!
/Trying to look on the bright side!

Some things in life are bad
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best...

And...always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life...

If life seems jolly rotten
There's something you've forgotten
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When you're feeling in the dumps
Don't be silly chumps
Just purse your lips and whistle - that's the thing.

And...always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life...

For life is quite absurd
And death's the final word
You must always face the curtain with a bow.
Forget about your sin - give the audience a grin
Enjoy it - it's your last chance anyhow.

So always look on the bright side of death
Just before you draw your terminal breath

Life's a piece of shit
When you look at it
Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true.
You'll see it's all a show
Keep 'em laughing as you go
Just remember that the last laugh is on you.

And always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the right side of life...
(Come on guys, cheer up!)
Always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the bright side of life...
(Worse things happen at sea, you know.)
Always look on the bright side of life...
(I mean - what have you got to lose?)
(You know, you come from nothing - you're going back to nothing.
What have you lost? Nothing!)
Always look on the right side of life...

971 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:20:16am

re: #969 Occasional Reader

Fantastic scene!

972 opnion  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:20:47am

re: #955 realwest

With all due respect and without going into your personal animus towards coal I AM open to re-newable energy without jumping on the hysterics bandwagon but I want renewable energy that is practical, cost effective and availabile BEFORE we give up our current sources of energy.

If I may, Actress Daryl Hannah said this morning that the technology is there for wind & solar. She must have developed the storage tech herself, because even T Boone Pickens isn't making that assertion.
I agree, we can't give up our reliable energy sources until there are actual viable options.

973 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:21:10am

re: #971 Dustyvet

Whoops they pulled it...sorry

974 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:21:41am

re: #967 avanti

Secondly how could they stage and launch one or more without detection and the resulting vaporization of their country ?

I'll take the second question first:

They don't care.

At least, the nuttier among them don't. And the nuttier among them happen to be running the joint.

975 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:22:11am

re: #920 reine.de.tout

You haven't seen Alec Baldwin touting this in TV ads?


good Morning Reine..I love that commercial..It is so funny..
/cause that's how we roll

976 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:22:12am

re: #959 Russkilitlover

He's so fast. One minute he was right under my feet, the next minute he had completely chewed through my purse strap (a purse I foolishly left on the floor). Puppies DO remind you to pick up your things!

Ain't that the truth!
All shoes to be put into their cupboard - all rubish bins emptied, all doors to 'dangerous' places firmly closed - and the little mischiefs still find things to destroy!

I don't know if you can get that - we got some spray which doesn't do them any harm, except it tastes awful to them. You can spray it on all truly dangerous or truly precious stuff, like extension leads or carpets.
Or furniture, especially chair and table legs ...

977 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:22:19am

re: #922 ggt
Hey, If that's OCD, what would you call our golden that puts her "babies" (stuffed animals mostly with no insides or heads) to bed with us everynight? She mostly brings them in with Mr. Beach as he goes to bed usually before me. Every night...has for 6 years. She doesn't sleep with us...but they do!

978 VegasRick  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:22:28am

re: #973 Dustyvet

Whoops they pulled it...sorry

Your finger?
/

979 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:22:28am

re: #974 Occasional Reader

And the nuttier among them happen to be running the joint.

Just like here!

980 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:22:31am

re: #959 Russkilitlover

He's so fast. One minute he was right under my feet, the next minute he had completely chewed through my purse strap (a purse I foolishly left on the floor). Puppies DO remind you to pick up your things!

We have a dog who used to pull pens out of my wife's briefcase and chew them up. He seems to be over it now.

981 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:22:47am

re: #956 albusteve

in it's era maybe...Pvt Ryan is mine for now

I love the opening recreation of D-Day, but the rest of the movie is Speilberg's Baby Boomer crap in a helmet.

982 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:23:06am

from the Alamo

983 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:23:12am

re: #978 VegasRick

Your finger?
/

The video...

984 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:23:21am

re: #955 realwest

With all due respect and without going into your personal animus towards coal I AM open to re-newable energy without jumping on the hysterics bandwagon but I want renewable energy that is practical, cost effective and availabile BEFORE we give up our current sources of energy.

DING!

Government mandated technology doesn't work out.
Congress mandated CFL light bulbs for 2012. CLF don't last longer when used typically in the home, the last longer when left on. They don't save much energy when used like a typical home, they use a lot of energy during the warm up phase, and in the on-off environment of the home, the savings is not that great. You have the cumulative mercury of all those bulbs to deal with.

Industry has developed the LED light bulb, it does save energy, it does last longer, it has the benefit of being easily dimmed and tuned for color. LED beats CFL in every category.

We have more than enough domestic oil, natural gas, coal and nuclear to last 100 years or more. We don't need to rush into a stupid decision like CFL bulbs. We can let science and industry and free market get it right both technologically and economically.

985 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:24:33am

re: #981 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I love the opening recreation of D-Day, but the rest of the movie is Speilberg's Baby Boomer crap in a helmet.

I just look at it as a shootout...same as the rest of them

986 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:24:38am

re: #981 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I love the opening recreation of D-Day, but the rest of the movie is Speilberg's Baby Boomer crap in a helmet.

You think? I don't really see "earn this" as such a bad message.

I do agree that Miller's little speech about "if saving Private Ryan is the one good thing we can do in this war..." utterly misses the point, though.

987 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:24:58am

re: #970 Walter L. Newton

Excellent!
Now you need to as Miss Trixie how to put the whistle notes in, and then it'll be just perfect!

988 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:26:25am

re: #970 Walter L. Newton

While we're looking on the bright side of life:

989 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:26:26am
990 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:26:33am

re: #984 jcm

Industry has developed the LED light bulb, it does save energy, it does last longer, it has the benefit of being easily dimmed and tuned for color. LED beats CFL in every category.

Plus, they're almost unbreakable. I'm really not sure why LED bulbs for home/industry use have not come on stronger already. They already dominate the high-end flashlight market (Surefire, etc.).

991 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:26:56am

re: #976 yma o hyd

Ain't that the truth!
All shoes to be put into their cupboard - all rubish bins emptied, all doors to 'dangerous' places firmly closed - and the little mischiefs still find things to destroy!

I don't know if you can get that - we got some spray which doesn't do them any harm, except it tastes awful to them. You can spray it on all truly dangerous or truly precious stuff, like extension leads or carpets.
Or furniture, especially chair and table legs ...

I've used it before - I think it's called Bitter Bite spray or something. I used to have a lab/cocker mix who liked to chew furniture, so I sprayed it on chair and table legs. The stuff really was nasty, and the spray would get into my nose and I'd be "tasting" it all day. Oh, and it didn't really stop her proclivities - only age did that, she turned 2 and never chewed anything again.

992 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:27:08am

re: #986 Occasional Reader

You think? I don't really see "earn this" as such a bad message.

I do agree that Miller's little speech about "if saving Private Ryan is the one good thing we can do in this war..." utterly misses the point, though.

And ruins the movie for me. Defeating the Nazis, not so important as saving one guy? The Duke would have never done this movie.

993 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:27:19am

re: #798 Occasional Reader
Hey old cowhand! "So you really are willing to trade in everything we've invested in missile defense, for a mess of pottage Russian promise to firmly ask the Iranians to be nice?"
The Russians haven't even promised THAT!
I swear Obama IS STUPID. He may be well educated (or at least he attended fine institutions of higher learning) but this ain't Chicago kid, you can't use cunning or street smarts with world leaders; y'all are gonna have to elevate your game considerably before you can play with the Big Boys in the World. They don't VOTE here, they don't give a shit if you give good speech and they don't particularly LIKE YOU.
MAN up you idiot before you get us all killed. Think of the children who'll die if you don't up your game or gracefully step down - hell even Biden looks good compared to you in foreign affairs.

994 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:27:33am

re: #976 yma o hyd

Ain't that the truth!
All shoes to be put into their cupboard - all rubish bins emptied, all doors to 'dangerous' places firmly closed - and the little mischiefs still find things to destroy!

I don't know if you can get that - we got some spray which doesn't do them any harm, except it tastes awful to them. You can spray it on all truly dangerous or truly precious stuff, like extension leads or carpets.
Or furniture, especially chair and table legs ...

Bitter Apple.
But it isn't 100% effective. We use it.

995 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:27:33am

re: #977 Beach Lover

Hey, If that's OCD, what would you call our golden that puts her "babies" (stuffed animals mostly with no insides or heads) to bed with us everynight? She mostly brings them in with Mr. Beach as he goes to bed usually before me. Every night...has for 6 years. She doesn't sleep with us...but they do!

Ahhh!

Now, if I'm 'thinking dog', I'd say she regards both Mr Beach and you as the alpha dog and bitch, who are therefore the best to watch over her precious 'babies' during the night.
Makes perfect dog sense ...

996 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:27:47am

re: #984 jcm

I didn't know that, about CFLs' service life. Put one over the kitchen sink. Only lasted about a year. I figured it was a mfg flaw.

Thanks.

997 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:27:51am

May we call Obama "The Great Coke Snorter"

lol

998 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:28:01am

re: #984 jcm

DING!

Government mandated technology doesn't work out.
Congress mandated CFL light bulbs for 2012. CLF don't last longer when used typically in the home, the last longer when left on. They don't save much energy when used like a typical home, they use a lot of energy during the warm up phase, and in the on-off environment of the home, the savings is not that great. You have the cumulative mercury of all those bulbs to deal with.

Industry has developed the LED light bulb, it does save energy, it does last longer, it has the benefit of being easily dimmed and tuned for color. LED beats CFL in every category.

We have more than enough domestic oil, natural gas, coal and nuclear to last 100 years or more. We don't need to rush into a stupid decision like CFL bulbs. We can let science and industry and free market get it right both technologically and economically.

And the CFL's are not instant on if it's cool. We have a few in the theatre in some service areas, and they actually have to warm up if the area is cool. They are dim for a few minutes. Not good in an emergency.

We have about 20 house lights in the show room itself, they have to be ordinary 60 watt bulbs, since CFL doesn't work well on a dimmer circuit.

So, there is actually not a single place that they are of any use in the theatre, a place that uses a lot of power and lighting.

It's going to be similar with other public venues that use lighting for mood and stuff like that. They are basically on or off.

Bad idea.

999 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:28:38am

re: #990 Occasional Reader

Plus, they're almost unbreakable. I'm really not sure why LED bulbs for home/industry use have not come on stronger already. They already dominate the high-end flashlight market (Surefire, etc.).

I tried to replace the LED bulb in my flashlight the other night - the only room with any light was the kitchen. So of course, the bulb fell down the sink.

1000 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:28:39am

Good morning all. It truly is a good morning: I just found out I overpaid my withholdings. While it sucks that I gave the government an interest free loan, it means I don't have to cough up any more. That is cause for celebration.

I also wanted to share this bizarre snow event I was in yesterday:

Freakish weather phenomenon in Milwaukee

I live north of the city. Leaving my house for work yesterday there was a mere dusting of snow on the ground and there were blue skies. As I progressed south toward downtown along the Lake front, the sky turned progressively gray and the the fallen snow seemed to increase at about an inch or two every mile. By the time I was downtown, about 10 miles south of my house, I was in a blizzard. Downtown Milwaukee is right on Lake Michigan. One or two miles west and it was blue skies. So weird.

1001 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:29:13am

re: #990 Occasional Reader

Plus, they're almost unbreakable. I'm really not sure why LED bulbs for home/industry use have not come on stronger already. They already dominate the high-end flashlight market (Surefire, etc.).

I understand they don't work well in the cold..

1002 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:29:17am

re: #990 Occasional Reader

Plus, they're almost unbreakable. I'm really not sure why LED bulbs for home/industry use have not come on stronger already. They already dominate the high-end flashlight market (Surefire, etc.).

They're still too expensive, but give them a bit longer.
Also, they like 1.5 volts, not 120, so some additional circuitry is needed.

1003 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:29:23am

re: #976 yma o hyd

Ain't that the truth!
All shoes to be put into their cupboard - all rubish bins emptied, all doors to 'dangerous' places firmly closed - and the little mischiefs still find things to destroy!

I don't know if you can get that - we got some spray which doesn't do them any harm, except it tastes awful to them. You can spray it on all truly dangerous or truly precious stuff, like extension leads or carpets.
Or furniture, especially chair and table legs ...

Luke was the first lab I had that really didn't do too much damage. The turnwife would give him a cheap new toy every few weeks and he loved those toys. He had a basket of them on the patio and I think this kept him from chewing everything else. Huck, the lab I had before Luke chewed the legs off my BBQ table, literally.

1004 opnion  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:29:29am

re: #964 Occasional Reader

Or Jon Voight.

But actually, I'm sure that the moonbat chattering classes are already going on about how the idea of black Africans breaking into the White House and taking a pretty little white girl hostage means we're still an institutionally racist country, etc. etc. etc.

Odd that you say that, I was thinking that very thing.

1005 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:29:35am

re: #992 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And ruins the movie for me. Defeating the Nazis, not so important as saving one guy? The Duke would have never done this movie.

you take it too serious...another of my top war monies is 'Kellys Hero's'...now that had a great message...kill Nazi's and steal their gold...a twofer

1006 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:29:49am
1007 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:30:00am

re: #992 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And ruins the movie for me. Defeating the Nazis, not so important as saving one guy? The Duke would have never done this movie.

I guess I've heard enough from combat veterans that "you end up fighting for the guys beside you" that I'm willing to forgive that as an attempt at authenticity.

And the movie did refuse to follow Hollywood liberal mores in at least one respect; the two attempts at wartime altruism (Vin Diesel disobeying orders and trying to "rescue" the little French girl, and Miller letting the German prisoner go) end up getting people killed.

1008 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:30:00am

re: #955 realwest

With all due respect and without going into your personal animus towards coal I AM open to re-newable energy without jumping on the hysterics bandwagon but I want renewable energy that is practical, cost effective and availabile BEFORE we give up our current sources of energy.

That's what I was saying above.
I don't have a personal animus towards coal. It is dirty. That is a fact.
India and China burn copious amounts of coal and you cannot see the sky in their respective countries.

1009 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:30:24am

re: #816 turn
Yeah, I am feeling better, thanks Turn! How are you doing?

1010 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:30:26am

re: #996 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I didn't know that, about CFLs' service life. Put one over the kitchen sink. Only lasted about a year. I figured it was a mfg flaw.

Thanks.

We use ours in places where they get left on a lot; they work well there.

1011 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:30:52am

re: #1000 Creeping Eruption

AND, I am the 1000's post on this thread. I think the stars have aligned for me today.

1012 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:31:11am

re: #990 Occasional Reader

Plus, they're almost unbreakable. I'm really not sure why LED bulbs for home/industry use have not come on stronger already. They already dominate the high-end flashlight market (Surefire, etc.).

They're just coming on line as a consumer product. Still pretty pricing and people aren't that aware of them.

The other thing is manufacturers aren't building up for mass production because congress mandated CFLs. Until the industry can determine if the market will be artificially restricted they are waiting.

1013 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:31:41am

re: #991 Russkilitlover

I've used it before - I think it's called Bitter Bite spray or something. I used to have a lab/cocker mix who liked to chew furniture, so I sprayed it on chair and table legs. The stuff really was nasty, and the spray would get into my nose and I'd be "tasting" it all day. Oh, and it didn't really stop her proclivities - only age did that, she turned 2 and never chewed anything again.

Yep - chewing is an age thing, I found out after Madame, then still Miss, had chewed a ehfty chunk out of an antique, solid mahogany table leg!

Its to do with their second teeth - when they come on, the dogs have to chew to get them to settle in properly, and as they are in a bit of discomfort as well, the chewing helps with all that.
I just wish someone had told me before Madame got cracking on all sorts of things!
Yes, it was that Bitter Bite I was thinking of - it worked for Madame.

1014 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:33:04am

re: #984 jcm

I'm completely sold on CFL for my house, they do work to significantly reduce energy costs plus they are way cooler than incandescent bulbs and thereby save even more energy on cooling costs here during the hot summers.

1015 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:33:17am

re: #1012 jcm

The other thing is manufacturers aren't building up for mass production because congress mandated CFLs.

"Who are you gonna believe, us or your lying 'market'"?

-U.S. Congress

1016 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:33:28am

re: #994 Kosh's Shadow

Bitter Apple.
But it isn't 100% effective. We use it.

It was ok with Madame - but I think vigilance, and a lot of chew toys are better.
Oh - and having an older dog around also helps. They do teach the young whippersnappers whats what!

1017 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:33:34am

re: #996 pre-Boomer Marine brat

We have three in our bathroom fixture. The thinking was that since it's a real pain-in-the ass to change the bulbs, we'd get the "Al Gore miracle forever-bulbs" and not have to worry about it. It was about a year ago. Two have died already, and the remaining one from that batch glows at about half power.

1018 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:33:59am

BBL folks, gotta go to work for a bit.

1019 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:34:09am

re: #984 jcm

Oh, I agree LED is superior too. I haven't made that leap yet.

1020 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:34:23am

re: #967 avanti

OK, since some on here know a lot more about warhead design than me, how about a realistic estimate on long it would take Iran to go from a crude nuke to a warhead ? Secondly how could they stage and launch one or more without detection and the resulting vaporization of their country ?

Dude -

Aren't we wandering a bit here?

I thought that Democrats had told us how important it is to keep our alliances strong. I thought that the message was that the Bush Admin had ignored our allies, undermined our alliances, and went "unilateral" when we went into Iraq.

Well who asked for us to place that missile defense in Europe? And who will we screw over when we unilaterally trade it away with Russia?

That is right - our allies.

So I get a bit confused when Democrats have told me:
&bul; that such a system was too expensive (and then spend 3 Iraq wars worth of money in less than 45 days),
&bul; that it doesn't work (yet now threaten to use it against North Korea), and
&bul; that we should never betray our allies (yet we are trying to bargain with Putin to do just that).

Maybe you could clear some of that up for us. Is Poland less of a NATO ally than, say, France? Does the system that doesn't work only work as a threat but doesn't work otherwise? Is it really not that expensive after all?

1021 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:34:35am

re: #1012 jcm

They're just coming on line as a consumer product. Still pretty pricing and people aren't that aware of them.

The other thing is manufacturers aren't building up for mass production because congress mandated CFLs. Until the industry can determine if the market will be artificially restricted they are waiting.

CFLs kinda suck, imo. The light makes human skin look dead. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they made with a small amount of mercury? Which would make their disposal bad for the environment.

1022 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:35:05am

re: #995 yma o hyd

I respect and agree mostly with your opinion. But, she runs us around to her needs all day and night. She is the alpha female in our household. We lost her littermate 6 weeks ago, and she has been in a little depression. We've noticed she has gotten worse since he isn't here to boss around.
*Bless his heart

1023 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:35:37am

re: #1006 buzzsawmonkey

Re-watched Mr. Smith Goes To Washington last night.

Given Obama's consistent message of doom and gloom, I think the remake will be titled The Smiths Go To Washington.

1024 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:36:02am

re: #1014 turn

I'm completely sold on CFL for my house, they do work to significantly reduce energy costs plus they are way cooler than incandescent bulbs and thereby save even more energy on cooling costs here during the hot summers.

CFLs are okay, but some are painfully slow at warming up. I put some A-line bulbs in one of our bathrooms (because the fixture they're in exposes them to view, and in that case I prefer something that looks like an incandescent), and it takes them a good five minutes to come up to maximum brightness, even in warm weather.

1025 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:36:08am

re: #1003 turn

Luke was the first lab I had that really didn't do too much damage. The turnwife would give him a cheap new toy every few weeks and he loved those toys. He had a basket of them on the patio and I think this kept him from chewing everything else. Huck, the lab I had before Luke chewed the legs off my BBQ table, literally.

Yes - chewy toys are indeed the ticket!
I bet Huck didn't have so many of them.

Also, I believe that we now know far more about how to train our pups than we did fifteen years ago even.

1026 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:36:28am

re: #999 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I tried to replace the LED bulb in my flashlight the other night - the only room with any light was the kitchen. So of course, the bulb fell down the sink.

Step one: Buy more lamps for your home...

1027 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:36:28am

re: #1017 Lincolntf

We have three in our bathroom fixture. The thinking was that since it's a real pain-in-the ass to change the bulbs, we'd get the "Al Gore miracle forever-bulbs" and not have to worry about it. It was about a year ago. Two have died already, and the remaining one from that batch glows at about half power.

These things are very touchy on line loads (you better have a full 115-120v running through those lines) and if the room or area is cool, they will start with a lower brightness until them warm up.

That alone bothers me. If you need bright light right away in an emergency, and there is a possibility that if the room or area is cool, and the bulb is cool, it will come on very dimmed and take up to a minute to obtain max brightness.

1028 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:36:42am

re: #1017 Lincolntf

We have three in our bathroom fixture. The thinking was that since it's a real pain-in-the ass to change the bulbs, we'd get the "Al Gore miracle forever-bulbs" and not have to worry about it. It was about a year ago. Two have died already, and the remaining one from that batch glows at about half power.

My utility company gave rebates for buying them. I got a box. Don't like the 'color' they give off and at the time I wasn't aware of the mercury. After hearing the shrieking about that for years and years, I don't understand why it's suddenly not a problem any more.
I've got boxes of standard bulbs stashed in the basement. (at least until the lightbulb police show up and confiscate them)

1029 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:37:12am

re: #1011 Creeping Eruption

AND, I am the 1000's post on this thread. I think the stars have aligned for me today.

Any lottery going today you might play - and win?

1030 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:38:00am

re: #1021 FrogMarch

CFLs kinda suck, imo. The light makes human skin look dead. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they made with a small amount of mercury? Which would make their disposal bad for the environment.

It's also hellish light with which to put on your makeup! You risk going out into natural light looking like Bozo with a bad sense of color.

Yes, they have mercury and you don't really want to drop and break one on your floor.

1031 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:38:37am

re: #1001 HoosierHoops

I understand they don't work well in the cold..

LEDs? I hadn't heard that. Maybe I'll leave one of my Surefires out on the patio for a few hours tonight and check it out.

1032 rw in san diego  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:39:12am

re: #994 Kosh's Shadow

Bitter Apple.
But it isn't 100% effective. We use it.

The breeder from whom we bought our lab kept the puppies in her kitchen and used Tobasco sauce on her wood furniture, etc. that she wanted to protect. Our pup never chewed a thing except the toys we gave her. Those she destroyed...have switched to Kong toys. I don't really know if the Tobasco sauce is a panacea or if our Goldie just wasn't inclined to chew. Now, if someone could tell me how to stop her barking whenever anyone comes to the house, I'd be eternally grateful!

1033 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:39:52am

re: #1017 Lincolntf

We have three in our bathroom fixture. The thinking was that since it's a real pain-in-the ass to change the bulbs, we'd get the "Al Gore miracle forever-bulbs" and not have to worry about it. It was about a year ago. Two have died already, and the remaining one from that batch glows at about half power.

Thanks for the warning. Now I'm mentally prepared.

I made an investment in those suckers. The lamps they're in aren't used all that much, and I keep lights off a great deal. ... Uh oh!

1034 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:40:23am

re: #1009 realwest

Yeah, I am feeling better, thanks Turn! How are you doing?

Fine, thanks. Allergies flaring up a bit here in Sac, many trees are blooming. We're getting lots of rain in the valley and lots of snow in the Sierras which is a real good thing.

1035 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:40:40am

re: #1030 Russkilitlover

It's also hellish light with which to put on your makeup! You risk going out into natural light looking like Bozo with a bad sense of color.

Yes, they have mercury and you don't really want to drop and break one on your floor.

They make different color temperature CFLs, but you have to look around to find the right ones (like the warm white ones).

1036 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:40:43am

Wall Street on the Tundra

Iceland’s de facto bankruptcy—its currency (the krona) is kaput, its debt is 850 percent of G.D.P., its people are hoarding food and cash and blowing up their new Range Rovers for the insurance—resulted from a stunning collective madness. What led a tiny fishing nation, population 300,000, to decide, around 2003, to re-invent itself as a global financial power? In Reykjavík, where men are men, and the women seem to have completely given up on them, the author follows the peculiarly Icelandic logic behind the meltdown.
1037 albusteve  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:41:10am

more boating lunacy...really a shame

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

1038 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:41:18am

re: #1029 yma o hyd

Any lottery going today you might play - and win?

I just might try

1039 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:41:19am

re: #1022 Beach Lover

I respect and agree mostly with your opinion. But, she runs us around to her needs all day and night. She is the alpha female in our household. We lost her littermate 6 weeks ago, and she has been in a little depression. We've noticed she has gotten worse since he isn't here to boss around.
*Bless his heart

Aw, I'm really sorry to hear that you lost a precious companion, not just for her but for you as well.
I'm sure she is depressed - dogs do have these emotions, never mind what non-dog owners say.
Any chance of her getting another companion to 'boss around'?

1040 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:41:21am

re: #1027 Walter L. Newton

Yeah, the warming up is weird. When I start my shower, the room is kinda dim, by the time I step in, it's about right, and by the time I get out it's like being under a spotlight.
So it took us a bit over a hundred years to eliminate steady electric lighting, Edison must be thrilled.

1041 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:41:39am

re: #902 rw in san diego
AHA! Absolutely and PROUD to be your BFF or your OLBFF!
But it'd be great if we could ever actually meet!

1042 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:42:13am

re: #963 Walter L. Newton

I got the cookbook. All the pages were in order, and it had a front and back cover. I burned the fish chapter.

hahaha!
Glad you got your book and that all was in order.

1043 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:42:58am

By the way, Think Progress (hardly a "right wing" site) has the cost of the Iraq War at $648 Billion (based on numbers from the Congressional Research Service).

Obama has signed off on about 3 times that since coming into office fewer than 45 days ago.

Shove that in the face of anyone who says Iraq was too expensive. When all is done, Iraq will at least show something for the money spent. Most of the Obama money is income maintenance, repeal of welfare reform and social programs.

1044 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:43:03am

re: #1022 Beach Lover

I respect and agree mostly with your opinion. But, she runs us around to her needs all day and night. She is the alpha female in our household. We lost her littermate 6 weeks ago, and she has been in a little depression. We've noticed she has gotten worse since he isn't here to boss around.
*Bless his heart

We had a dog lose his playmate. He was depressed until we could get another. He became a couch poodle.

1045 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:43:23am

Sri Lanka's cricket team attacked in Pakistan - 3 March 2009

RoP...*spit*

1046 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:43:45am
1047 rw in san diego  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:43:52am

re: #1041 realwest

You have an open invitation to the rw household any time you choose.

1048 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:44:25am

re: #1032 rw in san diego

The breeder from whom we bought our lab kept the puppies in her kitchen and used Tobasco sauce on her wood furniture, etc. that she wanted to protect. Our pup never chewed a thing except the toys we gave her. Those she destroyed...have switched to Kong toys. I don't really know if the Tobasco sauce is a panacea or if our Goldie just wasn't inclined to chew. Now, if someone could tell me how to stop her barking whenever anyone comes to the house, I'd be eternally grateful!

Barking when someone comes to the house is a dog thing!
Basically, they say 'hey, pack, some intruder - what are we going to do about it?'

You can, with patience, teach them to bark on command and shut up on command. As she's a lab, she is intelligent and could learn that quite well.

1049 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:44:26am

re: #1019 turn

Oh, I agree LED is superior too. I haven't made that leap yet.

LED may be superior, but I have put in CFLs in most of the lights in our home and LED isn't widely available or cost effective for most applications - especially in the home. We've not had to change a single bulb in more than a year of use, and the light quality varies from brand to brand. Some take a bit of time to get up to full brightness, but that too varies by brand. I've already saved quite a bit on my power bills, so I take it as a net plus.

1050 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:45:10am

re: #1000 Creeping Eruption

Not quite so freakish. We get that rather commonly around Chicagoland. Yesterday, it was clear blue skies out by Joliet, where I live, and it was snowing a touch up by where I work near the DuPage/Cook County line. There was even more snow futher north and east, toward Lake County and most of Cook County.

1051 CommonCents  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:45:18am

re: #1029 yma o hyd

Any lottery going today you might play - and win?

Mega millions jackpot is up to $212,000,000

That should cover my 401k losses adequately.

1052 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:45:44am

Light bulb issues?

"Rich people's problems"

/Mr. WriterMom

1053 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:45:49am

re: #1049 lawhawk

What brand is good? I think ours are GE.

1054 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:46:07am

re: #1051 CommonCents

Mega millions jackpot is up to $212,000,000

That should cover my 401k losses adequately.

Yes, but by the time somebody wins it, it will probably only be worth $106,000,000.

1055 CommonCents  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:46:27am

re: #1054 reine.de.tout

Yes, but by the time somebody wins it, it will probably only be worth $106,000,000.

Booo-hooo
/s

1056 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:46:28am

Allah hates fags...
C4 DEATH THEATS OVER GAY MUSLIMS


CHANNEL 4 has come under fire from Islamic leaders over a television documentary showing how gay and lesbian Muslims suffer under their laws.

Its director has already had death threats because homosexuality is strictly forbidden by The Koran.

Now station chiefs are bracing themselves for a backlash. Its digital channel More 4 will show A Jihad For Love tonight.

1057 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:46:36am

re: #1032 rw in san diego
Our golden doesn't bark unless she wants in or out...then one bark only. However the one we lost would only bark when someone would come over. I think it was an attention thing. He could have cared less if a robber came in and stole us blind when no one was home.

1058 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:46:52am

re: #1048 yma o hyd

Barking when someone comes to the house is a dog thing!
Basically, they say 'hey, pack, some intruder - what are we going to do about it?'

You can, with patience, teach them to bark on command and shut up on command. As she's a lab, she is intelligent and could learn that quite well.

That hasn't worked with our poodles. Seven of them make quite a bit of noise.

1059 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:46:53am

re: #967 avanti

Faster than cutting another jizyah cheque to Shitistan!

1060 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:47:17am

re: #1030 Russkilitlover

It's also hellish light with which to put on your makeup! You risk going out into natural light looking like Bozo with a bad sense of color.

Yes, they have mercury and you don't really want to drop and break one on your floor.

I agree.
I use CFLs outside, in the garage and in my unfinished basement. I prefer halogen incandescent in human areas: Kitchen, baths, etc... (Halogen burns hot, but it's the closet to the natural light spectrum.)
CFL pushers don't want you to know that by dimming the light source, you can save just as much if not more energy.

The whole light bulb hysteria is silly. Our refrigerators burn more energy that a few light bulbs.

LED's are promising, but the quality of light has not yet been perfected.

1061 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:47:19am

re: #1051 CommonCents

Mega millions jackpot is up to $212,000,000

That should cover my 401k losses adequately.

Oh!
I'd love some ...

On the other hand - I've given up playing the Lottery for Lent, so its a no-no.

1062 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:47:19am

re: #1056 Killgore Trout

I sense a fatwa heading your general direction...

1063 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:47:25am

re: #1025 yma o hyd

Yes - chewy toys are indeed the ticket!
I bet Huck didn't have so many of them.

Also, I believe that we now know far more about how to train our pups than we did fifteen years ago even.

You're right, Huck didn't get too many toys. I threw sticks for him which probably sent the wrong message (chew wood - good). He loved the Frisbee though but even those nylon ones wouldn't last long with him. Yes we learn as we go along, dogs truely are amazing emergency protein sources (OR rip off).

1064 Ateam  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:47:36am

Good morning folks at America (here it is 18.40 pm). I found in yesterday night thread a link to a full version of Mr. Rush L. speech at CPAC. First time to hear the men. Can I get excess to his radio show via www?

1065 rw in san diego  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:48:15am

re: #1048 yma o hyd

You can, with patience, teach them to bark on command and shut up on command. As she's a lab, she is intelligent and could learn that quite well.

This is my problem. She's already 6 years old and I think it's become such a habit that it may be impossible to break. I am not a good trainer, although I should be considering the money we have spent on trainers over the years with all our dogs.

1066 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:48:17am

re: #1056 Killgore Trout

Allah hates fags...
C4 DEATH THEATS OVER GAY MUSLIMS

Short version:
"If you imply that Islam is a violent religion, we'll kill you!"

1067 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:48:19am

re: #1062 WriterMom

I'll put it on the pile.

1068 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:48:25am

re: #1052 WriterMom

Light bulb issues?

"Rich people's problems"

/Mr. WriterMom

He means, candles were good enough for his great-great grand-parents, so they're good enough for him?

Hiya, {WriterMom}!

1069 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:48:36am

re: #759 abaleh

Who cares? Like WHATEVER. No nasty JOOOS involved.

1070 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:48:47am

closet = closest

1071 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:49:23am

re: #1067 Killgore Trout

LOL. It was the headline that got me. Jihad me at the headline!

1072 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:49:35am

re: #1068 yma o hyd

YID!

1073 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:49:49am

ME THREAD KILLAH!

1074 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:49:50am

re: #1066 Kosh's Shadow

Short version:
"If you imply that Islam is a violent religion, we'll kill you!"

SILENCE...I KELL YOU...

aCHMED...

/S

1075 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:49:52am

re: #1014 turn

I'm completely sold on CFL for my house, they do work to significantly reduce energy costs plus they are way cooler than incandescent bulbs and thereby save even more energy on cooling costs here during the hot summers.

I don't have a problem with CFLs.

I have a problem that Congress mandated CFLs and there is a better technology out.

Congress is determining which energy technologies win.
Congress is determining which automotive technologies win.
Congress is determining which medical technologies win.
Congress is determining which pharmaceutical technologies win.

Congress can't pick a the right g-d damn light bulb!

1076 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:50:07am

re: #1036 Kenneth

As a very minor aside:

but before I can finish, the man in the seat behind me reaches for his bag in the overhead bin and knocks the crap out of me. I will soon learn that Icelandic males, like moose, rams, and other horned mammals, see these collisions as necessary in their struggle for survival. I will also learn that this particular Icelandic male is a senior official at the Icelandic stock exchange. At this moment, however, all I know is that a middle-aged man in an expensive suit has gone out of his way to bash bodies without apology or explanation

Reminds me of the guy who sat down next to me on the Metro the other day. He immediately demands that I "move over a little". I point out that my hip and shoulder are already pressed against the wall, and so, no, I really can't, it's physically impossible. He demands it again, adding that I should "sit properly". I point out that I'm sitting perfectly fine, thanks, he has one seat, I have one seat, he's not entitled to one and a half. He continues to nastily demand that I move over (I guess I was supposed to somehow meld into the steel Metro car wall, like an X-Man or something). I ended up having to get in touch with my inner bully and basically tell him to fuck off. Very weird, too, he was this little, middle-aged guy, not one who should go around starting shit like this.

But anyway.

1077 CommonCents  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:50:16am

re: #1061 yma o hyd

Oh!
I'd love some ...

On the other hand - I've given up playing the Lottery for Lent, so its a no-no.

I wonder if there is some connection between Lent and the use of the word lent as in "I lent some money". If you lend something, you should be expected to not get it back, or be without it, for a period of time. Just thinking out loud.

1078 rw in san diego  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:50:27am

re: #1057 Beach Lover

LOL! Goldie is not brave...she's loud and she's neurotic, but she's definitely not brave.

1079 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:50:49am

re: #1058 Kosh's Shadow

That hasn't worked with our poodles. Seven of them make quite a bit of noise.

I'm sure they do!
Its an excellent intruder deterrent, though.
No burglar alarm will jump with joy when they see you, nor lick your face, nor want to play with you!

And any baddie will think twice before venturing into a place where such noise is coming from.

1080 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:51:22am

re: #967 avanti
"Secondly how could they stage and launch one or more without detection and the resulting vaporization of their country ?"
They couldn't. Not unless we elected some wussy like Senator Barrack Hussein Obama from Illinois as POTUS! LOL!


(uh, what? We did? how could we be that STUPID).

Nevermind.

1081 CommonCents  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:51:26am

re: #1064 Ateam

Good morning folks at America (here it is 18.40 pm). I found in yesterday night thread a link to a full version of Mr. Rush L. speech at CPAC. First time to hear the men. Can I get excess to his radio show via www?

Yes you can, but it will cost you. Rush needs to make is obscene profits. www.rushlimbaugh.com

1082 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:51:27am

re: #1053 Lincolntf

What brand is good? I think ours are GE.

I've heard that the n:vision brand that Home Depot sells has gotten good reviews. I know that Consumer Reports has done a couple of comparisons on different brands of CFLs, but I haven't read them.

1083 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:52:00am

Saving America

That we are in a crisis is obvious. That we are in a crisis that may implode the whole world, we don't want to find out. Here are a couple of suggestions to get us out of this:

Step 1. Recall Congress

Step 2. Elect a new Congress whose members do not consist of members of the previous congress.

Step 3. Impeach Obama for gross incompetence and pretending he was presidential material

Step 4. Appoint a new President. John Kaisch, McCain, or JC Watts but someone whose head is not full of rocks

Alternative, assuming Obama loves this country more than power: ask Joe Biden to Step Down, appoint McCain Vice President and allow him to act on behalf of the office of the President (which constitutionally the VEEP is).

1084 CommonCents  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:52:04am

re: #1081 CommonCents

Yes you can, but it will cost you. Rush needs to make is his obscene profits. www.rushlimbaugh.com

Sorry sticky h

1085 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:52:05am

re: #1056 Killgore Trout

Allah hates fags...
C4 DEATH THEATS OVER GAY MUSLIMS

And the jihadi boys tend to make, very literally, C4 death threats.

1086 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:52:08am

re: #1056 Killgore Trout

Homosexuality is forbidden by the Koran, but it's alright to screw your farm animals.

1087 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:52:39am

re: #1032 rw in san diego

The breeder from whom we bought our lab kept the puppies in her kitchen and used Tobasco sauce on her wood furniture, etc. that she wanted to protect. Our pup never chewed a thing except the toys we gave her. Those she destroyed...have switched to Kong toys. I don't really know if the Tobasco sauce is a panacea or if our Goldie just wasn't inclined to chew. Now, if someone could tell me how to stop her barking whenever anyone comes to the house, I'd be eternally grateful!

Heh, that reminds me. With all those cheap toys the turnwife would bring home for Luke he went right after ripping out that little plastic squeeker thing. He got pretty quick at it, I was always afraid he might swallow one and squeek when he passed it.

1088 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:52:50am

re: #1039 yma o hyd

I don't think so. He was the sweetheart of the two, not that we don't love her to pieces. We have just doubled our love onto her for right now. Course, if someone walked in right now and showed me a golden puppy, it would be all over. I'm such a sap. But, hearing all the "puppy" stories is giving me resolve! Socks were our demise...and cost us $2,000 for the surgery after one finally got caught! The sock eater is the baby head eater, too! LOL

1089 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:52:56am

re: #1067 Killgore Trout

I'll put it on the pile.

I've heard of using Preparation H for that issue, but never fatwas.

1090 JacksonTn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:53:05am

re: #1080 realwest

"Secondly how could they stage and launch one or more without detection and the resulting vaporization of their country ?"
They couldn't. Not unless we elected some wussy like Senator Barrack Hussein Obama from Illinois as POTUS! LOL!

(uh, what? We did? how could we be that STUPID).

Nevermind.

Good Morning Realwest ...

No, we didn't elect him ... he did ...

1091 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:53:12am

re: #1049 lawhawk

LED may be superior, but I have put in CFLs in most of the lights in our home and LED isn't widely available or cost effective for most applications - especially in the home. We've not had to change a single bulb in more than a year of use, and the light quality varies from brand to brand. Some take a bit of time to get up to full brightness, but that too varies by brand. I've already saved quite a bit on my power bills, so I take it as a net plus.

I've done likewise, and I have noticed that some can take time to warm up, but others seem ready to light immediately. I put them in the lights that usually stay on most often. I got some globe ones for the bathroom, and I find they take about a minute to warm up, but are brighter than the bulbs they replaced. And, like you, I have not had to replace one yet.

1092 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:54:05am

re: #1076 Occasional Reader

Did you really tell him to f-off? I have subway nightmares all the time, but I usually just sit there because you never know who the hot head is going to be. My main pet peeve is the type of person whose ass literally bleeds over the seat line, so you are smushed-totally smushed. I hate that. Did you pay two fares? No-so you get one seat. Blech.

1093 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:54:08am

re: #1075 jcm

This is what annoys me about CFL's..."The average rated life of a CFL is between 8 and 15 times that of incandescents." from Wikipedia.

I'm sorry, but between "8 and 15" times the rated life leads me to expect that they should last at least as long as an incandescent. In my experience, they don't.

1094 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:54:57am

re: #1079 yma o hyd

I'm sure they do!
Its an excellent intruder deterrent, though.
No burglar alarm will jump with joy when they see you, nor lick your face, nor want to play with you!

And any baddie will think twice before venturing into a place where such noise is coming from.

That's the point. We do have an alarm as well, though.
And poodles are very protective.
Before our newest ones were trained for the invisible fence, I was out late at night with them, when someone went running down the street. One of our dogs started barking at him (long before I could see him). I told her "good dog". Now I know she barks loud, but is somewhat afraid of strangers. But the real use is deterrence.

1095 turn  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:55:03am

re: #1049 lawhawk

I buy the cheapest CFL bulbs I can find, never had a serious problem. Once in a while one will go out but not nearly as often as the incandescents used to.

1096 Killer Tomato  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:55:42am

It's been almost 24 hours since it stopped snowing and FEMA has YET to show up and shovel out my car!
Service here stinks.
Guess I have to go do it myself.
Later, all -

1097 rw in san diego  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:55:56am

BBL. Have a great day, everyone.

1098 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:57:10am

re: #967 avanti

A crude nuke is a warhead. How to put it on a missile? It took the US several years to do that. The thing is, Iran already has the designs. So it comes down to a problem of engineering. They need the tools & techniques to accurately machine the parts and assemble them. They already have the technology to do that. A modern CNC machine shop could handle the job no problem. The electronic triggering circuits are relatively simple matter. They could well be practicing on a lead dummy warhead. We don't know. The turn around time on the engineering work would be from several weeks to a few months.

Secondly how could they stage and launch one or more without detection and the resulting vaporization of their country?

Who says they don't want to be detected? As Bernard Lewis wrote, "For the apocalyptic cultists around President Ahmadinejad, mutually assured destruction is not a deterrent, it's an inducement."

They may wish only to nuke Israel and not the US or Europe. In which case, they would do so in the context of a larger missile war with Israel, starting with Hamas & Hezbollah raining small rockets, then Syria entering the war with her chemical & conventional rockets. and finally Iran firing her nuclear & conventional missiles at Israel. The strategy is to overwhelm Israel's missile defense system. Iran, believing Israel was destroyed, would then use the threat of more missiles to be fired at Europe if the US retaliated. That's another justification for a European based missile defense system.

The problem with the position that Iran poses no threat since retaliation would destroy them, presupposes they are concerned with that possibility. The religious fanatics who run the country today are the same religious fanatics who sent hundreds of thousands of Iranian children to clear Saddam's minefields. I'm not sure you can rely upon them to make the same moral calculation you or I would.

1099 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:57:18am

re: #1092 WriterMom

Did you really tell him to f-off?

Not quite in so many words, but not far from it.

I have subway nightmares all the time

In Canada! I thought everyone was polite!

because you never know who the hot head is going to be

I was efinitely NOT worried about that in this case. I'm not claiming to be a street fighter, but this guy was a frickkin' hobbit; I could have folded him up and stuck him in my briefcase.

1100 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:58:08am
1101 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:58:27am

re: #1082 Ward Cleaver

Thanks.
I think my wife felt personally insulted when she went to the effort of "greening", and being long-term practical when she originally suggested/bought the CFL's and then they burned out/sucked.
I usually balk at anything "green", because of all the faux-science involved, but I liked the idea that I wouldn't have to fight with the fixture too often. If I can find a real good CFL, wifey will be pleased.

1102 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:59:42am

re: #1078 rw in san diego

LOL isn't that the truth! This is our 3rd Golden and I have never seen such "chicken" dogs. I walked into the house with balloons one day and I thought they were going to kill each other running from the room. Furniture went flying...it was the funniest thing I have ever seen.

1103 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 8:59:56am

re: #1099 Occasional Reader

There is rarely a week that goes by where I don't see something completely disgusting on public transit, or smell someone either marinating in cheap perfume or hasn't figured out that Canada has LOTS of water and soap for cheap. We've had a few wacky things happen on public transit lately-several brazen daytime shootings (better BAN THOSE GUNS) and three teenagers were pushed to the tracks by a crazy person-fortunately they all survived. Crazy stuff.

1104 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:01:29am

re: #968 turn

I didn't know that, OR the link to those classified intelligence reports is right here at LGF.

That information about tritium is in the public domain. The problem from hell is that most of the information about how to design & build a nuclear warhead is public knowledge. The biggest hurdle is getting the fissile material, which Iran has been free to do so far.

1105 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:01:47am
1106 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:03:19am

re: #1103 WriterMom

There is rarely a week that goes by where I don't see something completely disgusting on public transit, or smell someone either marinating in cheap perfume or hasn't figured out that Canada has LOTS of water and soap for cheap. We've had a few wacky things happen on public transit lately-several brazen daytime shootings (better BAN THOSE GUNS) and three teenagers were pushed to the tracks by a crazy person-fortunately they all survived. Crazy stuff.


Damn. And yet here in "Murder Capital" DC, my Metro experiences are generally very civilized. Of course, I'm usually on the Red Line, full of "rich people"... things are a little dicier on some of the lines that run principally through our more, ah, interesting neighborhoods.

1107 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:04:18am

re: #1047 rw in san diego
And right back atcha! Regrettably, it's unlikely that mom and I will be able to travel very far for...well, probably never.
But Charlotte is LOVELY in the spring, early summer and in the fall!

1108 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:04:21am

re: #1083 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
agree there is a monumental problem, but if we go to those extremes, do you think McCain is the best we can do?

1109 jcm  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:04:52am

re: #1093 Lincolntf

This is what annoys me about CFL's..."The average rated life of a CFL is between 8 and 15 times that of incandescents." from Wikipedia.

I'm sorry, but between "8 and 15" times the rated life leads me to expect that they should last at least as long as an incandescent. In my experience, they don't.

8-15x if left on. Turn 'em on and off burns out the ballast, CFLs need a very high internal voltage, the ballast kicks up the voltage. The other thing is the overall quality coming out of China sucks, none of the CFLs are manufactured in the US, all come from China.

1110 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:06:13am

re: #1086 FrogMarch

Homosexuality is forbidden by the Koran, but it's alright to screw your farm animals.

But the definition of homosexuality is a little different than we understand here. What is illegal in the Muslim world is sexual love between two males of equal status. Older men having sex with teenage boys if perfectly acceptable and is not considered "gay".

And then of course, there's "Man Love Thursdays" in Afghanistan...

1111 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:07:20am

re: #1106 Occasional Reader

Well, here the crazy person who pushed the teens was really mental and a drug addict-a white person, possibly Italian. But the gun violence is pretty much the "interesting" neighbourhood people going on little excursions to the downtown core, with the regular working people...

1112 rightside  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:07:54am

Afternoon, Lizards

1113 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:11:00am

re: #1090 JacksonTn
Morning back to you! And you're right: he BOUGHT the election (with the ever so necessary complicity of the MSM) and thereby rented control of our country for four years. Four LONG years. But payback will be coming and PAYBACK IS ALWAYS A BITCH.

1114 realwest  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:15:21am

re: #1099 Occasional Reader "I could have folded him up and stuck him in my briefcase."
Sounds as if you should have. Although you can never tell - he mighta been a looney-tunes with a knife or a gun.
Still just the image of you folding him up and sticking him in your briefcase brought a smile to my face!

1115 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:15:37am

re: #1100 buzzsawmonkey

oh contrere mon frere!

The right to recall elected members of congress is the law of each state of the union. carved in stone.

Recall committees in each state would have to be set up but 100% ont he books and constitutional.

1116 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:16:44am

re: #1108 Beach Lover

Right now you need someone of universal stature and trust, name me someone with more of that than McCain and use them instead

1117 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:18:31am

re: #1109 jcm

8-15x if left on. Turn 'em on and off burns out the ballast, CFLs need a very high internal voltage, the ballast kicks up the voltage. The other thing is the overall quality coming out of China sucks, none of the CFLs are manufactured in the US, all come from China.

Even the conventional bulbs from China stink. I have had many come apart on me; the base separates from the rest of the bulb.

1118 Ateam  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:26:05am

re: #1086 FrogMarch
Even with my poor English I could guess the missing h :-)
Thanks for the link.

1119 Ateam  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 9:41:16am

re: #1084 CommonCents
Even with my poor English I could guess the missing h :-)
Thanks for the link.

1120 HippieforLife  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 10:10:48am

re: #835 pingjockey

The other lame brain is Maria Cant(do)well. Once again Washington state has not thought for one second about the pitfalls of sending two lame brains to congress at the same time.

The problem, as I see it, is that the Republican party here in Washington has not found a really good candidate for the senate. Patty is up for re-election in 2010 and if the R party doesn't start now with a viable candidate, we may have the pleasure (?) of her company for another six years.

1121 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 10:17:30am
1122 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 10:20:36am
1123 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 10:29:00am
1124 claire  Tue, Mar 3, 2009 2:28:10pm

re: #1123 therewaslight

A doofus with a sense of entitlement. Again. Now there's a surprise.


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