The Media Slants ... Right?

The Media Slants … Right?

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You may have seen reports on a study from Indiana University concluding that the mainstream media is biased—in favor of the Republican Party. (Yes, really.)

But according to Copious Dissent, there are severe problems in the study’s methodology: Analysis of the Indiana University Study on Republican Media Bias.

Overall, this study did not find statistically significant evidence to support the vast majority of the claims made by the authors. Some statistically significant data even contradict the authors’ claims. In fact, the editorializing conducted in Chapter 5’s discussion section goes so far outside the four corners of the study that it borders on pure advocacy. As a result, most if not all of the headlines seen around the Internet and on Television based on this study have no merit whatsoever.

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222 comments

sarah Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:13:34am

HAHAHAHAHA, oh that hurts my side.

debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:14:32am

Some statistically significant data even contradict the authors’ claims.

hahaahhaahahahahahahaa

DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:14:43am

Given the leanings of the academic world I can see why a university study would find the media has a right leaning tendency. It’s all relative.

/ - another right leaning indicator.

doppelganglander Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:14:47am

Proving once again that leftish bias is so pervasive, lefties don’t even see it.

Occasional Reader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:15:29am

Of course! Don’t you remember all those throbbing fake Obama memos?

joncelli Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:15:31am

Well, it’s a matter of perspective. If you’re a college professor than anything to the right of Mikhail Bakhunin is conservative.

Bloodnok Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:15:37am

Like I said before, A hit piece does NOT count as “media attention”.

Golem Akbar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:15:48am

Man, that’s some bad dope they been tokin’

Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:15:54am

The media slants right? Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning.

SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:16:00am

That study also found the Pacific Ocean to be drier than Helen Thomas at a wet T-shirt contest.

joncelli Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:16:38am

re: #6 joncelli

Then. THEN. And somebody beat me to the point anyway!

jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:17:03am

I beg to differ….

Media Malpractice: How Barack Obama Got Elected and Sarah Palin was Targeted.

joncelli Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:17:10am

re: #10 SasquatchOnSteroids

Get that image out of my head. Right. NOW.

realwest Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:17:30am

Sorry for the re-post but as I said in the prior thread at comment #67:
“as posted in the Spin off links, according to a Rasmussen poll taken YESTERDAY 65% of Americans don’t want the Government to bail out the Newspaper Industry!
Way to go Charles! You were certainly spot on in your interview on PJMediaTV yesterday!”

calvin coolidge Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:17:37am

Apparently more than just IU’s basketball team sucks.

tfc3rid Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:17:39am

See, see, it’s not the meeeeeeedia’s fault….

[deleted] Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:17:44am

BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:18:20am

Media outlets are owned by corporations. All corporations are owned by Republicans. Therefore, all media is biased towards Republicans.
///I hurt my brain

soxfan4life Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:18:21am

I think I’d prefer my son to be a pimp over a Professor or journalist.

MrSilverDragon Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:18:57am

Sure, the media slants right… if you turn it 180 degrees.

sarah Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:19:01am

If the Media slants to the right, then I’m the Pope.

jorline Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:19:37am

*burp*

DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:19:39am

re: #19 soxfan4life

I think I’d prefer my son to be a pimp over a Professor or journalist.

Its better to be the pimp than the whore.

[deleted] Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:20:12am

yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:20:21am

re: #6 joncelli

Well, it’s a matter of perspective. If you’re a college professor than anything to the right of Mikhail Bakhunin is conservative.

Outstanding!

DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:20:27am

re: #22 jorline

*burp*

More greenhouse gasses!

doppelganglander Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:20:41am

Why do they even call it social “science?”

BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:20:45am

re: #24 buzzsawmonkey

Apparently Indiana University has institutionalized the rigorous data collection and analysis methods of Professor Kinsey.

Only this time, we’re getting screwed.

FloridaAnole Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:20:59am

Yet another lesson in Creative Statistics! Is Indiana University doing all the “a vast majority of the American People think Obama is doing a swooningly magnificent job” polls that we’re getting smacked in the face with since the Market started tanking?

DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:21:07am

re: #24 buzzsawmonkey

Apparently Indiana University has institutionalized the rigorous data collection and analysis methods of Professor Kinsey.

Let’s just hope they don’t adopt his dental hygene practices.

jorline Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:21:22am

re: #26 DaddyG

More greenhouse gasses!

Something stimulated it.

saberry0530 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:21:30am

I think that they had the chart upside down.

DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:22:25am

They use statistics like a drink uses a lightpole. More for support than for illumination.

pat Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:22:39am

Maybe a sharp shift to the left will balance out this travesty.

VegasRick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:24:02am

re: #32 saberry0530

I think that they had the chart upside down.

MSNBC Video

Upside world.

kafir lover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:24:19am

re: #34 pat

Maybe a sharp shift to the left will balance out this travesty.

I doubt it - the left sees themselves as centrist with many believing they’re not yet far left enough.

Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:24:25am

Here’s the web page for one of the authors of the study:

Maria Elizabeth Grabe

Make sure and read through “Most recent publications” towards the bottom~~. Interesting~~ Revealing collection of publications I might add.

Conway, M. T., Grabe, M. E., & Grieves, K. (2007). Villains, victims and the virtuous in Bill O’Reilly’s “No-Spin Zone:” Revisiting World War propaganda techniques. Journalism Studies, 8(2), 197-223.

Grabe, M. E., Trager, K. D., Lear, M. & Rauch, J. (2006). Gender in crime news: A case study test of the chivalry hypothesis. Mass Communication & Society, 9(2), 137-163.

Zhou, S. & Grabe, M. E. (2006). The creation of drama in broadcast news: Challenges for Asian journalists. In X. Hao & S. K. Datta-Ray (Eds.). Issues and Challenges in Asian Journalism. Singapore: Marshall Cavendish Academic.

slartybartfast Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:24:27am

“I’m a Journalist…my mom tells her friends I’m a drug dealer…”

Haole Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:24:30am

Three lefts make a right

Pyroskank Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:25:06am

re: #6 joncelli

Well, it’s a matter of perspective. If you’re a college professor than anything to the right of Mikhail Bakhunin is conservative.

What does the eyepatch guy from LOST have to do….

oh, THAT Mikhail Bakhunin. Nevermind.

cpuller Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:25:42am

Yuddi, Yuddi, Yuddi, What?

subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:26:02am

Saw an interesting statistic: “A new study by Mrs. Whiffle’s third grade class at the Fred Finkle elementary school shows that, statistically, 78% of the students in Indiana University’s Social Science Department are completely clueless. (The other 22% were just drunk.)”

VegasRick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:26:34am

re: #39 Haole

Three lefts make a right

[Link: www.youthink.com…]

But two wongs don’t make a white.

mikalm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:26:42am

re: #18 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Media outlets are owned by corporations. All corporations are owned by Republicans. Therefore, all media is biased towards Republicans.
///I hurt my brain

Actually, a friend of mine has a bumper sticker on her AgendaMobile (tm) that says something like, “The Media Is Only As Liberal As the Conservative Corporations Who Own It.” I’ve long since given up trying to explain to her that the eeeeevil media corporations (for which she’s worked in the past) aren’t necessarily “conservative,” and that ownership doesn’t automatically determine content or bias.

reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:26:45am

re: #38 slartybartfast

lol!
Wouldn’t want to lose face! LOL

VegasRick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:27:04am

re: #42 subsailor68

Saw an interesting statistic: “A new study by Mrs. Whiffle’s third grade class at the Fred Finkle elementary school shows that, statistically, 78% of the students in Indiana University’s Social Science Department are completely clueless. (The other 22% were just drunk.)”

Funny!

pink freud Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:27:04am

O/T:

From the website of my local (Louisiana) talk radio station:

Time Magazine is asking for people to send them questions to pose to Governor Bobby Jindal for an upcoming article. Email Robert or Bernie with a question you would like the Governor to answer.

Email addys are listed at the link provided if you are interested.

doppelganglander Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:27:10am

re: #37 Gus 802

Here’s the web page for one of the authors of the study:

Maria Elizabeth Grabe

Make sure and read through “Most recent publications” towards the bottom~~. Interesting~~ Revealing collection of publications I might add.

I hear she’s going to collect all of her recent work in a volume entitled “Shoot First and Ask Questions Later: How to structure a study to ensure results that conform to your preconceived notions about race and gender.”

jorline Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:27:15am

Rushism

Throwing money at companies will not fix the problem…look at welfare!

Sorry for paraphrasing the Right Wing slant.

vxbush Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:27:27am

Sigh. My alma mater has seriously screwed up. I still know some of the stats professors in the math department at IU; I hope they get wind of this and come out to say something. Unfortunately, some of them are just as far to the left.

wiffersnapper Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:27:45am

I almost died laughing

justnobody Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:27:51am

The New-York Times today has an article about Barack Obama’s hair, apparently it’s turning white. It’s like BDS in reverse.

NYCHardhat Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:27:53am

The media slants to the left…just like Bill Clinton.

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:28:00am

That explains all of the messianic photos of McCain with a halo.

realwest Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:28:24am

re: #38 slartybartfast
ROTFLMAO! Wish I could give you a 100 updings for that one!

lawhawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:28:40am

You folks have it all wrong. The media does slant right.

It just depends on where you sit.

If you’re a Marxist, anything that doesn’t hew to your worldview is a rightward slant. If you’re a leftist, you think that anything that is even moderately to the center is right-slanting.

What is so mind boggling is that even the media elites themselves admit there’s a serious left-ward tilt. This study is so far out on the fringe that it defies description.

I guess they’re just laying the groundwork to claiming that when the media begins its inevitable dissection of Obama’s horrid policies that they’ll claim it’s a right-wing press inventing the details, rather than the fact that the left is eating its own.

Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:29:32am

The other author’s website:

Erik Bucy

He’s also editor and chief of Politics and Life Science. They offer “An online biosecurity course developed in collaboration with The Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation.”

Let me see. Something tells me that both authors are, biased?

FloridaAnole Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:30:12am

re: #44 mikalm

Actually, a friend of mine has a bumper sticker on her AgendaMobile (tm) that says something like, “The Media Is Only As Liberal As the Conservative Corporations Who Own It.” I’ve long since given up trying to explain to her that the eeeeevil media corporations (for which she’s worked in the past) aren’t necessarily “conservative,” and that ownership doesn’t automatically determine content or bias.

Ask her how does she reconcile this with the celebrated “Editorial Independence” the Media’s Editors/Producers/Reporters are always boasting about?

justnobody Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:30:22am

Choice quote:

Mr. Obama’s graying is still of the flecked variety, and appears to wax and wane depending on when he gets his hair cut, which he does about every two weeks. His barber, who goes by only one name, Zariff, takes umbrage with bloggers who alternately claim Mr. Obama, 47, is dyeing his hair gray (to appear more distinguished) or dyeing it black (to appear younger). “I can tell you that his hair is 100 percent natural,” Zariff said. “He wouldn’t get it colored.”

CIA Reject Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:30:29am

If you’re going to do something do it PROPERLY. What REALLY annoys me about this “study” is not the fact that they’re lying, but rather the fact that they’re lying poorly. It’s easy to lie with statistics. You want to push a point of view, fine- state your point of view and then “engineer” the data to support it. DON’T try do do an “honest” study and make stupid assertions that the data don’t support- that insults the readers’ intelligence!

Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:30:38am

re: #56 lawhawk

True, if one is so far left then everything is to the right and if you are so far right everything is to the left.

Amer-I-Can Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:30:44am

LOL, thanks Charles… I needed a good laugh today!

MrSilverDragon Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:30:45am

re: #56 lawhawk

I wish I could upding you like Democrats get votes, more than one per person…

subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:31:15am

re: #57 Gus 802

The other author’s website:

Erik Bucy

He’s also editor and chief of Politics and Life Science. They offer “An online biosecurity course developed in collaboration with The Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation.”

Let me see. Something tells me that both authors are, biased?

WTH? “Politics and Life Science”? What’s that all about?

What next? Wait, I know! “Weapons of Mass Destruction and Home Economics”.

rumcrook Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:31:22am

re: #56 lawhawk

bang you win the teddy bear.

setting the stage fore when its apparent zero is no hero

[deleted] Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:32:21am

mikalm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:32:30am

re: #58 FloridaAnole

Ask her how does she reconcile this with the celebrated “Editorial Independence” the Media’s Editors/Producers/Reporters are always boasting about?

As I said, I don’t bother. Like most leftists I know, she’s essentially a very unhappy person who’s created a personal ideological demonology that has very little to do with the real world.

DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:32:48am

re: #47 pink freud

O/T:

From the website of my local (Louisiana) talk radio station:

Time Magazine is asking for people to send them questions to pose to Governor Bobby Jindal for an upcoming article. Email Robert or Bernie with a question you would like the Governor to answer.

Email addys are listed at the link provided if you are interested.

“Did Louisiana politics become corrupt over time or did God just create them that way?”

Ben Hur Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:32:50am

REminds me of Zombie’s post yesterday about the Left being anchored in lies and ignoring it.

SOmething to that effect.

[deleted] Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:33:23am

VegasRick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:33:58am

re: #68 DaddyG

“Did Louisiana politics become corrupt over time or did God just create them that way?”

They have been corrupt for the last 6,000 years.

cpuller Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:34:21am

They must not have read this

A journalist’s love for Michelle Obama.

subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:34:22am

re: #70 buzzsawmonkey

There’s no demons like faux demons
Like no demons I know…

“Everything about them is appalling.”

debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:34:38am

re: #71 VegasRick

They have been corrupt for the last 6,000 years.

Young Earth New Orleans.

[deleted] Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:34:43am

HelloDare Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:34:55am

To say the study is slanted is an understatement.
Here’s the house the author of the study lives in.

mikalm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:35:14am

re: #56 lawhawk

I’ll always remember my College Anarchist Daze, when I got called a “right-winger” by some nerdy Marxist graduate-student because I advocated absolute freedom of speech and the press…

debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:35:37am

re: #76 HelloDare

Ooooooooo - forbidden!

karmic_inquisitor Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:36:13am

More on Michelle Obama going out of her way to insult the UK.

Sarah Brown gave Sasha and Malia Obama an outfit each from Topshop, which has just opened its first American store in New York. She also picked six children’s books by British authors which are shortly to be published in America.
But the British press has already accused the Obamas of gaffing over the gifts they gave in return. The Obamas gave the Browns two models of the presidential helicopter, Marine One, to take home to sons Fraser and John. Though Mrs Brown’s choice of gifts was praised as thoughtful, Mrs Obama’s choice of gifts for Fraser and John was ‘solipsistic’.

‘Mrs Brown may have two boys but she certainly knows the way to a little girl’s heart,’ columnist Sarah Vine wrote in the Times. ‘These were gifts chosen in the true spirit of present-giving: to please the recipient, not the giver.’

Giving the Browns’ two young boys a helicopter was ‘fair enough’, she said.

But she added: ‘Marine One? It’s not as though anyone needs reminding that Barack Obama is President or that he has his own helicopter.

‘Short of giving the boys Action Man models of her own husband smiting the evil forces of neoconservatism, Mrs Obama’s gesture could not have been more solipsistic or more inherently dismissive of Mrs Brown.

Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:37:01am

OK, after careful consideration following 2 minutes of research I’ve come to the conclusion that the authors of this study slant to the left.

quickjustice Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:37:19am

Academia, and the humanities in particular, have been a bastion of the left since the 1960s. Their efforts are noteworthy only if they’re not standard leftist cant.

VegasRick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:37:48am

re: #78 debutaunt

Ooooooooo - forbidden!

[Link: www.in.gov…]

Here it is!

[deleted] Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:38:00am

jorline Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:38:56am

See what happens when the government gets involved with private companies…I would rather deal with stockholders.

Venezuela’s Chavez seizes U.S. food giant unit

The anti-U.S. president, who has nationalized swaths of the economy, is popular among the poor for pressuring companies to produce cheap goods and for government programs that provide subsidized food in city slums.

The moves to tighten the government’s grip over the food supply were criticized by the private sector and many economists who say the state distorts the supply chain and contributes to food shortages.

Coming to a theater near you soon.

reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:39:04am

re: #76 HelloDareNeeds a warning!

[deleted] Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:39:07am

OldLineTexan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:39:17am

re: #79 karmic_inquisitor

More on Michelle Obama going out of her way to insult the UK.

You know, I dislike this administration, but I see nothing “solipsistic” about giving two (I assume young-ish) boys cool helicopter models that basically are souvenirs of the White House.

debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:39:43am

re: #82 VegasRick

Thanks - I thought it must have been the Mystery Spot in California.

quickjustice Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:39:54am

As I’ve said on other threads, sowing discord with old allies is part of Obama’s game plan. The Obamas deliberately insulted and slighted the Brits. What’s ironic is that Brown is the leader of Labour, the leftist party in the UK. So our leftist President has no problem snubbing fellow foreign leftists.

quickjustice Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:40:36am

Har!re: #83 buzzsawmonkey

Har!

[deleted] Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:40:48am

reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:40:56am

re: #84 jorline

Didn’t Chavez buy up all the tainted peanut butter?
Wouldn’t put it past him!

OldLineTexan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:41:06am

re: #75 Iron Fist

Look, everybody knows that the only truth to be had in the Reich-wing Media is what is brought to us by Pravda. Pravda, the paper of record to the world!

There is very little Pravda in Izvestia.

There is very little Izvestia in Pravda.

/Soviet-era saying

subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:41:13am

re: #79 karmic_inquisitor

More on Michelle Obama going out of her way to insult the UK.

Thanks for the link. I saw this line:

Though Mrs Brown’s choice of gifts was praised as thoughtful, Mrs Obama’s choice of gifts for Fraser and John was ‘solipsistic’.

Had to go look up that word. Turns out it means:

“Dumb, as in a post, but utterly unaware of it, and not really caring”

soxfan4life Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:41:15am

But she added: ‘Marine One? It’s not as though anyone needs reminding that Barack Obama is President or that he has his own helicopter

What, Barack Obama is President. Here I thought he was King of the whole friggin world.

reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:41:42am

re: #91 Iron Fist

Scotty Wotty Doo Doo?

debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:41:48am

re: #84 jorline

See what happens when the government gets involved with private companies…I would rather deal with stockholders.

Venezuela’s Chavez seizes U.S. food giant unit

Coming to a theater near you soon.

How did Cargill not see this coming?

quickjustice Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:41:55am

re: #84 jorline

Chavez: Writing Obama’s script for him.

yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:42:04am

re: #87 OldLineTexan

You know, I dislike this administration, but I see nothing “solipsistic” about giving two (I assume young-ish) boys cool helicopter models that basically are souvenirs of the White House.

The point is that Mrs Brown made an effort to give some things which are not yet available in the USA. Her gift were thoughtful and showed her personal input.

WAB just put in an order to the White House Gift Shop.

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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:42:14am

re: #84 jorline

See what happens when the government gets involved with private companies…I would rather deal with stockholders.

Venezuela’s Chavez seizes U.S. food giant unit

Coming to a theater near you soon.

If the US is going to be taking over companies, I suggest we start with Citgo.

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OldLineTexan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:42:24am

re: #92 reloadingisnotahobby

Didn’t Chavez buy up all the tainted peanut butter?
Wouldn’t put it past him!

Oh, you said tainted peanut butter.

He thought you said peanut-buttered taint.

Oh, my.

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snowcrash Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:42:29am

re: #79 karmic_inquisitor
lol. DVD’s as a gift? Clueless.

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jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:42:34am

OT but will this get Reported (HT Rush)

My headline would be:
Obama is a naif on the International scene.

Gordon Brown gives a unique, and historically rooted present.

The pen holder will apparently qualify because it’s made from wood from the sister ship of HMS Resolute, whose timbers were used to make the so-called Resolute Desk, presented as a gift by Queen Victoria and still used in the Oval Office today.

What does our learless feeder give to PM Brown?

25 classic American films on DVD as his official gift from Barack Obama.

How many pen holders made from the wood of the HMS Resolute are there? Which also match the oval desk’s origins?

How many boxed sets of movies are there?
Yeesh, Obama is a bumbling fool…..

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OldLineTexan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:42:49am

re: #95 soxfan4life

But she added: ‘Marine One? It’s not as though anyone needs reminding that Barack Obama is President or that he has his own helicopter

What, Barack Obama is President. Here I HE thought he was King of the whole friggin world.

/snicker

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AuntAcid Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:43:00am

re: #53 NYCHardhat

The media slants to the left…just like Bill Clinton.

Monica, is that you?

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Darwin Akbar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:43:23am

In next week’s report, these geniuses will conclude:

- Obama is a moderate after all;

- higher taxes make everyone happy;

- losing all of your savings is good, since you didn’t need that extra-lean ground beef anyway;

- having to work for another five years instead of retiring means that Obama has saved your job!

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snowcrash Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:43:24am

re: #99 yma o hyd
And people thought Bush was the clueless rube? Please.

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Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:43:34am

Professor Called Cops on Student Who Discussed Gun Control in Class

Last October, John Wahlberg and two classmates at Central Connecticut State University gave an oral presentation for a communications class taught by Professor Paula Anderson. The assignment was to discuss a “relevant issue in the media,” and the students presented their view that the death toll in the April 2007 Virginia Tech shooting massacre would have been lower if professors and students had been carrying guns.

That night, police called Wahlberg, a 23-year-old senior, and asked him to come to the station. When he arrived, they they read off a list of firearms that were registered in his name and asked where he kept them.

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NukeAtomrod Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:43:59am

re: #12 jcm

I beg to differ….

Media Malpractice: How Barack Obama Got Elected and Sarah Palin was Targeted.

I bought a copy of the Media Malpractice DVD and attended the premiere at the National Press Club during CPAC. It is absolute definite proof of media bias and an excellent film. I found myself laughing at the ridiculousness of the media deception showcased in the film, but was horrified to see the extent of it. As long as the press is so thoroughly corrupt, America is in danger.

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Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:44:08am

re: #99 yma o hyd

The point is that Mrs Brown made an effort to give some things which are not yet available in the USA. Her gift were thoughtful and showed her personal input.

WAB just put in an order to the White House Gift Shop.

The White House has a Gift Shop? I want a Rutherford B Hayes action figure…:)

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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:44:27am

re: #108 Kenneth

UnF%^&ng believable!

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OldLineTexan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:44:56am

re: #103 jcm

OK, this one is a problem. Don’t “their people” compare gift lists to avoid this sort of accidental embarrassment?

It’s like the Family Guy crack on the Three Wise Men:

I got myrrh. What’d you get him?
Gold.
Gold? We agreed to a price limit!
Yeah, hello! Frankincense here!

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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:45:18am

re: #108 Kenneth

If I were him I’d have a VERY GOOD LAWYER!

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subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:45:20am

re: #103 jcm

OT but will this get Reported (HT Rush)

My headline would be:
Obama is a naif on the International scene.

Gordon Brown gives a unique, and historically rooted present.

How many pen holders made from the wood of the HMS Resolute are there? Which also match the oval desk’s origins?

How many boxed sets of movies are there?

Yeesh, Obama is a bumbling fool…..

It’s even worse. Turns out the title of the set was “The Revolutionary War: 50 Years of Great American Cinema.”

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Russkilitlover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:45:39am

re: #79 karmic_inquisitor

More on Michelle Obama going out of her way to insult the UK.

When you’re eternally stuck on self, there is no room for considering of anyone else.

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debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:46:29am

re: #110 Dustyvet

The White House has a Gift Shop? I want a Rutherford B Hayes action figure…:)

The Bill Clinton action figure just sits there.

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quickjustice Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:46:30am

re: #94 subsailor68

“Solipsistic” means “self-centered”, so much so that you ignore other people’s feelings, and ignore external value systems in favor of your own. “Nothing exists beyond me” is a fair summary of the philosophy.

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jorline Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:46:32am

re: #97 debutaunt

How did Cargill not see this coming?

I don’t know…perhaps like a lot of people with 401K’s…hoping tomorrow everything will go back to normal.

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Bloodnok Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:46:33am

re: #103 jcm

OT but will this get Reported (HT Rush)

My headline would be:
Obama is a naif on the International scene.

Gordon Brown gives a unique, and historically rooted present.

How many pen holders made from the wood of the HMS Resolute are there? Which also match the oval desk’s origins?

How many boxed sets of movies are there?
Yeesh, Obama is a bumbling fool…..

I think he has a bust of some old British PM that he doesn’t need that he could have given him.

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subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:47:24am

re: #117 quickjustice

“Solipsistic” means “self-centered”, so much so that you ignore other people’s feelings, and ignore external value systems in favor of your own. “Nothing exists beyond me” is a fair summary of the philosophy.

Yep. (Kinda what I said.)

;-)

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OldLineTexan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:47:40am

re: #108 Kenneth

Professor Called Cops on Student Who Discussed Gun Control in Class

One of the reasons I oppose registration of any sort. It is a prelude to Governmental abuse, no ifs, ands, or buts.

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jorline Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:47:53am

re: #100 Kosh’s Shadow

If the US is going to be taking over companies, I suggest we start with Citgo.

agree…and one of their refineries is in my backyard.

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snowcrash Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:48:27am

Isn’t there a protocol adviser or can’t the Obamas take advice on what is an appropriate gift for the occasion?

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jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:48:42am

re: #112 OldLineTexan

OK, this one is a problem. Don’t “their people” compare gift lists to avoid this sort of accidental embarrassment?

It’s like the Family Guy crack on the Three Wise Men:

I got myrrh. What’d you get him?
Gold.
Gold? We agreed to a price limit!
Yeah, hello! Frankincense here!

You would think staffers on both sides would do that. You’d think WH Staff would come up with something better ordering something off of Amazon.

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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:48:50am

re: #116 debutaunt

The Bill Clinton action figure just sits there.

If you know the secret password, you can get to the adults-only section, with the Clinton and Lewinski action figure set.

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subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:48:51am

re: #116 debutaunt

The Bill Clinton action figure just sits there.

Yeah, but the Monica action figure is really cool. It’s a bobble-head doll that’s on my dashboard as we speak.

;-)

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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:08am

re: #121 OldLineTexan

OLT,
I’ll be buying something tomm….up in the big city!
Not sure what but it will have a high cap…

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Devil's Advocate Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:11am

Thanks Charles for the link!

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OldLineTexan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:16am

re: #123 snowcrash

Exactly.

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bolivar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:16am

Obviously these people have a severe case of cranial rectitis (head up the ass syndrome) and they have their lips firmly applied to the messiah’s anal sphincter. I cannot believe this crap.

/just a sidelight - the messiah is going gray…..har har har him gonna get a lot grayer fore he is done screwin up the country

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vagabond trader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:20am

re: #108 Kenneth

As I posted in the link comments yesterday, how long before these academics and their ilk begin reporting opposition of The Obama viewpoint to the Secret Service.

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Russkilitlover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:22am

re: #87 OldLineTexan

You know, I dislike this administration, but I see nothing “solipsistic” about giving two (I assume young-ish) boys cool helicopter models that basically are souvenirs of the White House.

There is an art to gift giving, entertaining, and hosting. It’s a Zen thing, her gift in comparison looked bought on the fly as an afterthought. To Americans it may not seem such a big deal. We like “stuff” no matter what. Brits have a bit more of mannered tradition and have fine tuned such society niceties as proper visiting etiquette.

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Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:37am

re: #103 jcm

PM Gordon Brown has a PhD in history form the University of Edinburgh and is the author of seven books. I bet he will thoroughly enjoy the fine DVDs.

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Leonidas Hoplite Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:45am

OT: Not sure if this has been picked up over here…

Obama’s Intelligence Blunder
By Jon Chait
Saturday, February 28, 2009; Page A13

Most of President Obama’s “missteps” to date have been Washington peccadilloes of the “let’s find something to complain about” sort. But Obama has made one major mistake that has attracted little public attention: his appointment of Charles Freeman as chairman of the National Intelligence Council. Freeman was attacked by pro-Israel activists, but the contretemps over Freeman’s view of Israel misses the broader problem, which is that he’s an ideological fanatic.

The most extreme manifestation of Freeman’s realist ideology came out in a leaked e-mail he sent to a foreign policy Internet mailing list. Freeman wrote that his only problem with what most of us call “the Tiananmen Square Massacre” was an excess of restraint:

“[T]he truly unforgivable mistake of the Chinese authorities was the failure to intervene on a timely basis to nip the demonstrations in the bud, rather than — as would have been both wise and efficacious — to intervene with force when all other measures had failed to restore domestic tranquility to Beijing and other major urban centers in China. In this optic, the Politburo’s response to the mob scene at ‘Tian’anmen’ stands as a monument to overly cautious behavior on the part of the leadership, not as an example of rash action… .

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quickjustice Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:47am

“Selfish” and “self-centered” don’t come close to adequately describing the Obamas.

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Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:53am

re: #111 reloadingisnotahobby

Believe it.

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OldLineTexan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:59am

re: #124 jcm

You would think staffers on both sides would do that. You’d think WH Staff would come up with something better ordering something off of Amazon.

Everything’s made in China anyway.

But maybe they will learn. Have someone find out if the kid likes Legos or something. ;)

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soxfan4life Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:50:23am

re: #123 snowcrash

Isn’t there a protocol adviser or can’t the Obamas take advice on what is an appropriate gift for the occasion?

Who would be qualified to give advice to a God? Once he gets over that complex someone may be able to help him.

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jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:50:52am

re: #119 Bloodnok

I think he has a bust of some old British PM that he doesn’t need that he could have given him.

The whole visit struck a sour cord. The gifts the bust fiasco, the press conference, there is a long list of faux paus committed by the WH.

I know the permanent WH staff knows how to do these events. That tells me Obama’s staff over ruled the permanent staff.

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Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:51:14am

re: #121 OldLineTexan

One of the reasons I oppose registration of any sort. It is a prelude to Governmental abuse, no ifs, ands, or buts.

In 2007, Shibley noted, a student at Hamline University in Minnesota was suspended after writing a letter to an administrator arguing that carrying concealed weapons on campus may help prevent tragedies like the one at Virginia Tech. The student was allowed to return only after undergoing a psychological evaluation, he said.

Aww yes, Minnesota, Land of the Liberal loon and 10,000 Treatment Centers…

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yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:51:26am

re: #124 jcm

You would think staffers on both sides would do that. You’d think WH Staff would come up with something better ordering something off of Amazon.

Just occurred to me - the Obama’s need to save, what with the state the economy is in … and all those Wednesday Parties also cost a buck or two, ya know!

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debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:52:14am

re: #135 quickjustice

“Selfish” and “self-centered” don’t come close to adequately describing the Obamas.

Irrational self interest, kind of says it.

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LGoPs Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:52:18am

I am truly flummoxed. How do you have a discussion with people that are this far removed from reality. And it’s not just this group of ‘academics’. This viewpoint is widely held among run of the mill liberals.
With this great a gulf, I am at a loss as to how to bridge it. And does not the other side understand that when dialogue becomes impossible - out of their own making - that the disagreement doesn’t just go quietly away….

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bolivar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:52:25am

re: #134 Leonidas Hoplite

How can any thinking person put intelligence and Obama in the same sentence? Just defies logic and sensibility.

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Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:52:47am

re: #131 vagabond trader

Happening already, I’m sure.

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Ringo the Gringo Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:52:54am

re: #56 lawhawk

You folks have it all wrong. The media does slant right.

It just depends on where you sit.

If you’re a Marxist, anything that doesn’t hew to your worldview is a rightward slant. If you’re a leftist, you think that anything that is even moderately to the center is right-slanting.

I was just about to say the same thing. I have long time friends who laugh out loud when I say, for example, that Chris Mathews is on the left. They’ll look at you like your nuts, and tell you with a straight face that Mathews is on the right. My brother in law insists that NPR leans to right of center.

It goes without saying then that these same people honestly believe that Bush was a fascist akin to Mussolini…or worse.

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OldLineTexan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:53:19am

re: #132 Russkilitlover

There is an art to gift giving, entertaining, and hosting. It’s a Zen thing, her gift in comparison looked bought on the fly as an afterthought. To Americans it may not seem such a big deal. We like “stuff” no matter what. Brits have a bit more of mannered tradition and have fine tuned such society niceties as proper visiting etiquette.

I have enough to crack on Obama about without losing sleep over the gift to the boys.

Now the DVD fumble is different, IMO. Some staffer should have been a lot sharper than that.

Still, I understand some of it is cultural. But there has to be a limit. What do we give him? A Lakota chief’s warbonnet? One of the jeweled scimitars the Saudis used to bring George Bush (and the media used to bitch about the value)? A chunk off the USS Constitution? There has to be a limit, or some protocol.

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subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:53:22am

re: #145 bolivar

How can any thinking person put intelligence and Obama in the same sentence? Just defies logic and sensibility.

Hmm…let me try:

“Another thing Obama seems to be lacking is intelligence.”

That work?

;-)

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jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:53:31am

re: #133 Kenneth

PM Gordon Brown has a PhD in history form the University of Edinburgh and is the author of seven books. I bet he will thoroughly enjoy the fine DVDs.

Movie Night at No 10 Downing St.!

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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:54:18am

re: #147 Ringo the Gringo
Do they read backwards too?
Sheesh!……NPR? I mean, really!

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vagabond trader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:54:42am

re: #146 Kenneth

Yes, I live in the Socialist State of Connecticut and believe me, if you express any disagreement with a leftist, you risk becoming a pariah.Liviing in the woods and loving it.

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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:54:44am

re: #134 Leonidas Hoplite

OT: Not sure if this has been picked up over here…

Obama’s Intelligence Blunder
By Jon Chait
Saturday, February 28, 2009; Page A13

It has. We have an intelligence chief who has been an agent of our enemies, the Chinese and the Saudis.
He should be banned from all security-related work, and only be allowed to talk to government officials if he is registered as a lobbyist and a foreign agent.

Next up, Tony Soprano will head the FBI.

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quickjustice Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:54:47am

re: #134 Leonidas Hoplite

This Obama advisor thinks that the mass murder known as “Tiannemen Square” wasn’t massive enough? These were Chinese college kids waving around images of the Statue of Liberty, and demanding freedom of speech. They were murdered in mass by the Chinese military. The subject is so sensitive that anyone who even mentions “Tiannemen” in China is arrested.

And the Obama Administration thinks that the Chinese military wasn’t aggressive enough? These people are monsters.

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bolivar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:55:20am

re: #149 subsailor68

Hmm…let me try:

“Another thing Obama seems to be lacking is intelligence.”

That work?

;-)

Ok I can go for that buddy. It just seems an oxymoron - intelligence - obama…..oh the irony the irony

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Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:55:25am

re: #149 subsailor68

Hmm…let me try:

“Another thing Obama seems to be lacking is intelligence.”

That work?

;-)

Should The U S Navy let Obama tour a U S Submarine, for God sakes don’t let him touch anything…

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Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:55:40am

More gifts, Mr Brown gave a first edition set of the seven-volume classic biography of Churchill by Sir Martin Gilbert.

As if The One has the time to read some dull book about some dead old white guy.

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Leonidas Hoplite Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:55:50am

re: #145 bolivar

How can any thinking person put intelligence and Obama in the same sentence? Just defies logic and sensibility.

And is also frightening. I can’t imagine what we are in store for with these guys in power…but I guess we’ll find out.

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Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:56:39am

re: #152 vagabond trader

Tell me about it. I live in the Peoples Republic of Toronto.

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kafir lover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:57:02am

re: #135 quickjustice

“Selfish” and “self-centered” don’t come close to adequately describing the Obamas.

“Solipsistic”

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yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:57:04am

re: #148 OldLineTexan

I have enough to crack on Obama about without losing sleep over the gift to the boys.

Now the DVD fumble is different, IMO. Some staffer should have been a lot sharper than that.

Still, I understand some of it is cultural. But there has to be a limit. What do we give him? A Lakota chief’s warbonnet? One of the jeweled scimitars the Saudis used to bring George Bush (and the media used to bitch about the value)? A chunk off the USS Constitution? There has to be a limit, or some protocol.

There are indeed limits, and there are protocols.
Thats what some of the White House Staff are employed to do - as are some of the staff of the British Embassy.
Its not about one-upmanship - its about looking at who the visitor is, what interests he has, what personal connections to the USA.
Hell - we all do that sort of thing when we think about what to give to whom - tis not rocket science, after all.

(I doubt PB0 would have been happy with a DVD set of all episodes of Fawlty Towers …!)

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Dom Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:57:42am

I’ll suggest the left has become so radical that the fact we read anything relatively moderate or centre-left at all is a compromise in favour of right-wing bias.

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OldLineTexan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:58:15am

re: #162 yma o hyd

There are indeed limits, and there are protocols.
Thats what some of the White House Staff are employed to do - as are some of the staff of the British Embassy.
Its not about one-upmanship - its about looking at who the visitor is, what interests he has, what personal connections to the USA.
Hell - we all do that sort of thing when we think about what to give to whom - tis not rocket science, after all.

(I doubt PB0 would have been happy with a DVD set of all episodes of Fawlty Towers …!)

Methinks the staff must have been over-ruled, then.

And the O would be foolish to reject a collection of Bail Fawlty, IMO.

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AuntAcid Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:58:21am

re: #84 jorline

See what happens when the government gets involved with private companies…I would rather deal with stockholders.

Venezuela’s Chavez seizes U.S. food giant unit
Coming to a theater near you soon.

Fear this! Read the article and substitute “health care” for “food supply”.
Rather than artificially forcing down the price of something below cost and making it scarce, make it more available by letting wages rise by getting the hell out of the way of market forces.

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vagabond trader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:58:26am

re: #159 Kenneth

A moonbat cousin of mine used to, and may still, teach up there. He fled there during Vietnam to avoid the draft.

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OldLineTexan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:58:42am

re: #160 buzzsawmonkey

Not just some dead old white guy, but some dead old white guy whose bust he gave back to England.

Aye, there’s the rub.

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Leonidas Hoplite Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:58:43am

re: #154 quickjustice

This Obama advisor thinks that the mass murder known as “Tiannemen Square” wasn’t massive enough? These were Chinese college kids waving around images of the Statue of Liberty, and demanding freedom of speech. They were murdered in mass by the Chinese military. The subject is so sensitive that anyone who even mentions “Tiannemen” in China is arrested.

And the Obama Administration thinks that the Chinese military wasn’t aggressive enough? These people are monsters.

Detachment from reality causes insanity, at least in Obama advisors.

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bolivar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:59:07am

re: #158 Leonidas Hoplite

And is also frightening. I can’t imagine what we are in store for with these guys in power…but I guess we’ll find out.

More truth in that than I care to admit. Social engineering is gonna be a real bitch. They can engineer me when they pry my gun from my dead fingers. This puts the fear of God in dhimmies…..a populace armed and not afraid to use them. This was the original intent - don’t give government the chance to something you have use weapons over and if they are needed they are available.

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A.W. Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:00:08am

No, see it works like this. Obama is so self-evidently wonderful that if you don’t 100% support whatever he does, then you are clearly a right wing nut.

Or at least i guess that is how the left sees it.

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Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:00:09am

re: #166 vagabond trader

I’m familiar with the species. Where does he teach?

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kafir lover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:00:14am

re: #163 Dom

I’ll suggest the left has become so radical that the fact we read anything relatively moderate or centre-left at all is a compromise in favour of right-wing bias.

The left can never be satisfied - The media is almost completely controlled by the same ideology with the exception of Rush, Foxnews and WSJ, and still it isn’t enough.

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quickjustice Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:00:16am

re: #144 buzzsawmonkey

You are rendering me speechless with laughter, and that’s not an easy task! LOL!

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Russkilitlover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:00:45am

re: #139 jcm

The whole visit struck a sour cord. The gifts the bust fiasco, the press conference, there is a long list of faux paus committed by the WH.

I know the permanent WH staff knows how to do these events. That tells me Obama’s staff over ruled the permanent staff.

What “bust fiasco”? I missed that.

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bolivar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:02:24am

re: #174 Russkilitlover

What “bust fiasco”? I missed that.

A bust of Churchill given to W after 9/11 was returned to England cuz the messiah didn’t want it around. What an arrogant crass asshole!

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Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:02:27am

re: #162 yma o hyd

There are indeed limits, and there are protocols.
Thats what some of the White House Staff are employed to do - as are some of the staff of the British Embassy.
Its not about one-upmanship - its about looking at who the visitor is, what interests he has, what personal connections to the USA.
Hell - we all do that sort of thing when we think about what to give to whom - tis not rocket science, after all.

(I doubt PB0 would have been happy with a DVD set of all episodes of Fawlty Towers …!)

Basil: Listen, don’t mention the war! I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it all right. [returns to the Germans] So! It’s all forgotten now, and let’s hear no more about it. So, that’s two egg mayonnaise, a prawn Goebbels, a Hermann Goering, and four Colditz salads.

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subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:02:30am

re: #156 Dustyvet

Should The U S Navy let Obama tour a U S Submarine, for God sakes don’t let him touch anything…

/S

LOL!

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Respawn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:02:32am

A couple of academics would fudge a study to provide “cover” for their fellow travelers in the MSM? And do it so incompetently that even a pot-addled grad student could spot the obvious errors and advocacy in the “independent” study?

I am SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you!

Actually, what does continue to shock me is that these cretins CONTINUE to believe that we are so stupid we won’t catch them at it.

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Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:02:47am

re: #174 Russkilitlover

What “bust fiasco”? I missed that.

Did Michelle have a wardrobe malfunction or something?

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vagabond trader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:03:17am

re: #171 Kenneth

I believe it was the University of Toronto, but could be mistaken. My side of the family were never quite up to the “standards” of his, so we have not communicated in many years.

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AuntAcid Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:03:49am

re: #139 jcm

The whole visit struck a sour cord. The gifts the bust fiasco, the press conference, there is a long list of faux paus committed by the WH.

I know the permanent WH staff knows how to do these events. That tells me Obama’s staff over ruled the permanent staff.

You can take the boy out of Chicago but you can’t take Chicago out of the boy.

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bolivar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:04:17am

re: #179 Kenneth

Did Michelle have a wardrobe malfunction or something?

Oh no - that is too much! You are a real kidder aren’t you? I needed the laugh. This whole administration is just totally incompetent.

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Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:08:18am

re: #180 vagabond trader

There’s a whole social sub-group of old Vietnam era US draft dodgers up here. You can quickly identify them by their gray pony tails & peace buttons on their tatty old vests. Many of them managed to settle into jobs in academia, the media or used book stores. Tedious fusty old hippies.

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Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:10:17am

Cook County sheriff suing Craigslist for sex ads

[Link: www.startribune.com…]

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subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:11:25am

re: #157 Kenneth

More gifts, Mr Brown gave a first edition set of the seven-volume classic biography of Churchill by Sir Martin Gilbert.

As if The One has the time to read some dull book about some dead old white guy.

I have that set (not first edition) and it’s spectacular. Obama doesn’t have a clue how valuable a gift that is.

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yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:11:33am

re: #176 Dustyvet

Basil: Listen, don’t mention the war! I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it all right. [returns to the Germans] So! It’s all forgotten now, and let’s hear no more about it. So, that’s two egg mayonnaise, a prawn Goebbels, a Hermann Goering, and four Colditz salads.

I am 100% certain that the 0’s wouldn’t get even one of the jokes in Fawlty Towers, never mind the whole series!

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Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:13:01am

re: #186 yma o hyd

I am 100% certain that the 0’s wouldn’t get even one of the jokes in Fawlty Towers, never mind the whole series!

I know…:) I wish that they would bring it back…Along with Black Adder…:)

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jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:14:00am

re: #153 Kosh’s Shadow

It has. We have an intelligence chief who has been an agent of our enemies, the Chinese and the Saudis.
He should be banned from all security-related work, and only be allowed to talk to government officials if he is registered as a lobbyist and a foreign agent.

Next up, Tony Soprano will head the FBI.

Save’s our enemies all that sulking around and spying shit. He’ll just email them what every they ask for.

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Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:14:08am

re: #185 subsailor68

.Obama doesn’t have a clue ~~how valuable a gift that is.~~

FTFY!

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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:15:15am

re: #187 Dustyvet

I know…:) I wish that they would bring it back…Along with Black Adder…:)

There was a (false) rumor that there was going to be a Black Adder season 5, with the crew being a rock band, with a follicle-challenged drummer named “Bald Rick”.

0bama does remind me of Baldrick, though, with his “cunning plans”.

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yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:15:55am

re: #187 Dustyvet

I know…:) I wish that they would bring it back…Along with Black Adder…:)

Ooooohhhhh - Black Adder!

Thats another series which the 0s will never ever get!

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Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:15:58am

Pentgon Targeted In Suspected Missile Plot

WASHINGTON (WUSA) Seven men associated with Hezbollah, are locked up for trying to make a deal with an F-B-I informant: You attack the Pentagon, we’ll provide the missiles.
Although a few of the men were in the U.S. illegally, all seven were holding valid Virginia Driver’s Licenses.

Sameh Ibrahim, Muhammed Jameel Abdelazez, Akram Salih, Ibrahim Fadel Hamed and Ayman Ibrahim along with his brother Basem Ibrahim all lived in Alexandria.

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yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:17:37am

re: #190 Kosh’s Shadow

There was a (false) rumor that there was going to be a Black Adder season 5, with the crew being a rock band, with a follicle-challenged drummer named “Bald Rick”.

0bama does remind me of Baldrick, though, with his “cunning plans”.

Naaah - 0 is no Baldrick!
He may have plans, but cunning they are not - and definitely not in Baldick’s league!

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yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:18:19am

re: #193 buzzsawmonkey

His performance with the economy to date makes him a shoo-in as the lead for a “Black Subtractor” series.

True dat!
Very true!

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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:19:06am

re: #192 Kenneth

Pentgon Targeted In Suspected Missile Plot

Sameh Ibrahim, Muhammed Jameel Abdelazez, Akram Salih, Ibrahim Fadel Hamed and Ayman Ibrahim along with his brother Basem Ibrahim all lived in Alexandria.

Another Amish plot! I can tell by the names.

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jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:20:16am

re: #192 Kenneth

Pentgon Targeted In Suspected Missile Plot

Motor Voter, courtesy of ACORN and Cloward Piven.

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Roses Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:21:12am

It is pretty funny that Obama is complaining about Rush being the voice of the Republican party.

This from the man who just elevated the Huffington Post to the White House Press Corps.

No left bias there.

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FrogMarch Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:24:39am

Lie. Deceive. Point in the wrong direction. Consolidate power.

The communists are on the march.

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FredWM Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:28:32am

“Some ideas are so ridiculous that only an intellectual can believe them”
- George Orwell

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Sgt.Slappy Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:29:04am

re: #108 Kenneth

Some who espouse the banning of guns are convinced that anyone who supports the 2nd Amendment, or owns firearms, target shoots or hunts… is an unpredictable, murderous animal who will use their firearms in revenge for any perceived slight. The objects themselves are “demonic” - possessed of an evil will of their own and able to create violence… and that no-one should even talk about them let alone touch them (especially children!) or learn how to use them for personal protection.

This is a true phobia. I bet the professor later worked herself into a panic attack and was afraid the student might “get” her with his guns, then called the Police.

I think the professor is in need of a psychological evaluation.

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NukeAtomrod Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:36:22am

re: #103 jcm

OT but will this get Reported (HT Rush)

My headline would be:
Obama is a naif on the International scene.

Gordon Brown gives a unique, and historically rooted present.

How many pen holders made from the wood of the HMS Resolute are there? Which also match the oval desk’s origins?

How many boxed sets of movies are there?
Yeesh, Obama is a bumbling fool…..

How much do you want to bet the DVDs are Region 1 NTSC?

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jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:36:24am

re: #108 Kenneth

Professor Called Cops on Student Who Discussed Gun Control in Class

I hope he had a simple answer.

“Let me see your warrant.”

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jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:36:46am

re: #202 NukeAtomrod

How much do you want to bet the DVDs are Region 1 NTSC?

ROFL!

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jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:37:22am

re: #201 Sgt.Slappy

Some who espouse the banning of guns are convinced that anyone who supports the 2nd Amendment, or owns firearms, target shoots or hunts… is an unpredictable, murderous animal who will use their firearms in revenge for any perceived slight. The objects themselves are “demonic” - possessed of an evil will of their own and able to create violence… and that no-one should even talk about them let alone touch them (especially children!) or learn how to use them for personal protection.

This is a true phobia. I bet the professor later worked herself into a panic attack and was afraid the student might “get” her with his guns, then called the Police.

I think the professor is in need of a psychological evaluation.

Too true……

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NukeAtomrod Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:42:26am

re: #175 bolivar

A bust of Churchill given to W after 9/11 was returned to England cuz the messiah didn’t want it around. What an arrogant crass asshole!

So much for “improving America’s image in the world.” Unless pissing on the U.K. will improve our image somehow?

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jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:21am

re: #206 NukeAtomrod

So much for “improving America’s image in the world.” Unless pissing on the U.K. will improve our image somehow?

$5 says Thugo gets a State reception and dinner.

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kafir lover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:57:37am

re: #200 FredWM

“Some ideas are so ridiculous that only an intellectual can believe them”
- George Orwell

Defining ‘doublethink’:
“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself — that was the ultimate subtlety; consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word ‘doublethink’ involved the use of doublethink.”

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Gretchen Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:22:19am

The only conclusion that can be reached is that these academics are unfit to research anything. These professors are churning out more “little Eichmann’s” just like themselves every year.

Obama could appoibnt them media czars to make sure all the coverage is fair and balanced.

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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:32:51pm

re: #52 justnobody

The big story today is Obama’s kids got a fancy new swing set. That’s about as exciting and important as finding out that Obama prefers Coke to Pepsi.

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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:41:37pm

re: #179 Kenneth

Did Michelle have a wardrobe malfunction or something?

Maybe Dolly Parton visited the WH the last time she was in DC?

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onthow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:44:57pm

Never underestimate the ability of intellectuals to talk away the obvious. One thing they cannot talk away, however, is for whom reporters vote. They overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. In 1992, for example, “89% — nine out of 10 — Washington reporters and bureau chiefs voted for Clinton … and 7% voted for George Bush.” “Bush got a higher percentage of votes in the liberal congressional districts of Berkeley, Calif., and Cambridge, Mass., than he did from reporters in Washington.” No doubt this disparity was repeated in 2000 and 2004, and must have been near 99% for The One in 2008. Only professors would have the temerity to release a “study” claiming that these reporters are biased in favor of Republicans.

Source: [Link: www.ibdeditorials.com…]

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transient Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:38:03pm

I posted this on Copious Dissent and will repost here:

One variable I have never heard discussed is a variation of “last say.” The media will often juxtapose two stories on opposite sides of an issue in the interests of equal time/equal say. The second person/side to speak has the opportunity to answer the first person’s claims, and is also more likely to linger in the viewer’s/listener’s memory. My anecdotal experience is that the side the media favors tends to get the “equal time/last say.” I would like to see hard data on that. It’s an easy enough experiment to design.

I see/hear this consistently on Israeli/Palestinian issues. The Israeli always comes first. I am becoming increasingly attentive to the same bias in Dem/Rep stories.

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Indypendent Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:52:51pm

I graduated from I.U.
Can I return my deploma for a refund?
Didn’t know I really went to Haaaavaaard, like O.

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momof2 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:56:33pm

I also am a graduate (usually proud, not now) of IU.

Sorry, when I went there it wasn’t liberal, either that shows my age or I was clueless and it was liberal….

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robdouth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:01:05pm

re: #21 sarah

Be careful, just your comment is all the evidence the left needs to post on Kos that the Pope is an avid LGF reader and poster.

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robdouth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:03:35pm

re: #34 pat

New plan for balancing out this travesty is that all media interviews will start with complimentary handjobs for Democrats.

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Roses Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:04:00pm

re: #216 robdouth

Be careful, just your comment is all the evidence the left needs to post on Kos that the Pope is an avid LGF reader and poster.

LOL

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Throbert McGee Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:40:32pm

re: #93 OldLineTexan

There is very little Pravda in Izvestia. There is very little Izvestia in Pravda.

/Soviet-era saying

Actually, the Russian put it in more absolute terms: Nyet pravdy, meaning “there isn’t any truth” or “there’s no truth at all.” (Not to be confused with Nyet pravde, which you could translate as “Just say no to truth” — word endings are everything in Russian!)

“There’s little truth” would be Malo pravdy, and you could optionally put ochen at the beginning, to express “very.”

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Throbert McGee Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:57:11pm

re: #219 Throbert McGee

Not to be confused with Nyet pravde, which you could translate as “Just say no to truth” — word endings are everything in Russian!

And just in case anyone’s wondering the very obvious:

Nyet narkotikam = “(Just say) No to drugs”

Nyet narkotikov = “There aren’t any drugs”

Da, u nas nyet narkotikov, = “♪♫ Yes, we have no narcotics! ♫♪ “

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SnowDawg Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:56:02pm

As a scientist ( a REAL scientist not a social scientist) I thought I would comment on the comment by Copious Dissent on the importance of statistical significance. Technically when one says that their results are NOT statistically significant what they are saying is that they cannot rule out chance as being the cause of the results that they observe (in this case that the media slants right). In a real scientific journal if you attempted to treat your results as supporting your hypothesis while those same results were NOT statistically significant you would NOT get published.

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leww37334 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:22:17pm

obviously the Global Warming people took time out from their other bogus studies to do another bogus study.

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