She didn't give Chrissy a tingle, but guess who did.

I think the hit-job the MSM did on her hurt more.

Oh come now, every thinking voter knows that the only factor holding Palin down was having to hold up the old glue horse.

People are mad

Better to look like Harry Reid, I guess.
Sarah, stop the moisturizer. You'd do better shrunken and wrinkled.

And if she looked like Madeline Albright, the same guys would have written that she was hurt because she was unattractive.

Psychological bullshit focus group questionnaires prove things in the realm of idiots.

So much for women's lib on the left.

A successful, both professional and at home, good looking, self confident, elk hunting, conservative woman, is just isn't good enough.

Funny, when you consider all the MFM attention on Obama's looks. There was a Chicago columnist who wished she could've followed him into the locker room (yes, Lynn Sweet, that'd be you). Obviously the MFM turning Obama into a sex symbol didn't hurt his chances.

Did sex appeal hurt Sarah Palin in the election?

No, John McCain did.

re: #2 SasquatchOnSteroids

She didn't give Chrissy a tingle, but guess who did.

That says a lot about Chrissy. I know Mr. Clinton got one.

Well maybe she can watch Michelle for the next 4 years we heard plenty about how atractive she is. Tone up those arms Sarah. And put on your war face. It worked for WAB.

TV has lobotomized America.

re: #15 Ojoe

TV has lobotomized America.

We were lobotomized well before that. TV just didn't help any.

re: #12 red satellite

No, John McCain did.

McCain's sex appeal was too much for the guys.
/

You know, there is no such thing as a stupid question, but there sure are a lot of inquisitive idiots--and they're all in the media.

re: #16 Honorary Yooper

OK

"She hardly demonstrated a grasp of the issues..."?

A grasp, nevertheless--unlike the media's darling who never held the reigns of power to anything more complex than a tricycle.

That generalization only serves to diminsh the writer.

I will say one thing: that's a sharp-looking shotgun!

re: #15 Ojoe

I just blame Sesame Street.

By demonizing Palin based on her looks and her choice of family before career the left proved themselves to be more bigoted and misogynist than their worst caricatures of conservatives could ever be.

re: #15 Ojoe

TV has lobotomized America.

No TV and no beer makes Homer go crazy.

I'm waiting for the brain trust at Indiana University to release their report.

Did Tina Fey's looks effect her Nielsen ratings for 30 Rock?

re: #9 Ojoe

Psychological bullshit focus group questionnaires prove things in the realm of idiots.

Rotating title nomination!

re: #15 Ojoe

TV has lobotomized America.

The Rocky and Bullwinkle movie was accurate.
(In it, Fearless Leader creates a TV network that reduces people's intelligence until they vote for him for President.)
And that is different from reality how?

Sarah Palin was done wrong by her own campaign as well as the MSM. If they would have played to her brains.... !?!? Who knows what would have happened.

The MSM force fed us McCain, and then hatcheted Palin with the immediate attacks on her good looks. I guess if you look at "Liberal Chicks", you could see how beauty and brains don't go together very well on the left.

No.

Being a Republican running against The One hurt her with the press. Having McCain's campaign manage her hurt.

re: #20 SlartyBartfast

"She hardly demonstrated a grasp of the issues..."?

She was the only candidate IIRC who actually said, regarding the financial crisis, that "Americans had made poor personal financial choices", words to that effect.

She had a better grasp than any of them.

Meanwhile, the Dow is down 219 points. So much for yesterday's gain.

IMPOSSIBLE!
She's way easy on the eyes!

re: #27 Kosh's Shadow

The Rocky and Bullwinkle movie was accurate.
(In it, Fearless Leader creates a TV network that reduces people's intelligence until they vote for him for President.)
And that is different from reality how?

in 1962 it was a joke!

Sadly, no longer...

re: #27 Kosh's Shadow

The Rocky and Bullwinkle movie was accurate.
(In it, Fearless Leader creates a TV network that reduces people's intelligence until they vote for him for President.)
And that is different from reality how?

I'd rather have Rocky or Bullwinkle in office than the zero.

BBL

This is ridiculous. She was hurt by savage reporters and comedians. Did something about Hillary's looks keep Hillary from winning the nomination? Sarah hardly had a chance in hell once the reporters circled her like wolves and the O-worship went into high gear.

re: #22 DaddyG

By demonizing Palin based on her looks and her choice of family before career the left proved themselves to be more bigoted and misogynist than their worst caricatures of conservatives could ever be.

100 up dings.

re: #31 neocon hippie

Meanwhile, the Dow is down 219 6000 points. So much for yesterday's the last decades gains.

FIFY

re: #21 badger1970

I just blame Sesame Street.

Sesame Street doesn't explain the idiocy of the Boomers (of which, Obama is one).

Paradise By The Dashboard Light

LOL wouldn't want any lefty females boyfriends or husbands fantasizing about a Republican.

re: #31 neocon hippie

Meanwhile, the Dow is down 219 points. So much for yesterday's gain.

Rush renamed the Dow this morning.

The Obama Daily Tracking Poll......

re: #37 Chicken Kiev

This is ridiculous. She was hurt by savage reporters and comedians. Did something about Hillary's looks keep Hillary from winning the nomination? Sarah hardly had a chance in hell once the reporters circled her like wolves and the O-worship went into high gear.

Nothing to do with looks - it was all politics.

Focus on Palin's Looks May Have Hurt Her

Yeah, I have the same problem.

What McCain's daughter taught us yesterday was that when a woman is seen as a sex object, men and women don't take her seriously.

Mind you, unlike Miss McCain, Palin managed to go through 40-something years of life without posting her sex issues on the Daily Beast...

re: #43 Teacake!

LOL wouldn't want any lefty females boyfriends or husbands girlfriends fantasizing about a Republican.

FTFY

re: #14 soxfan4life

Well maybe she can watch Michelle for the next 4 years we heard plenty about how atractive she is. Tone up those arms Sarah. And put on your war face. It worked for WAB.

Depressing thought of seeing Michelle for 4 years after enjoying seeing a true first lady the last 8 years. Missing Laura just as much as George in the white house.

Yes, let's pretend her being hot was a detriment.

While we're at it, let's all swoon over Obama's hulking wife the Worf and pretend she's some fashion icon.

This article appears to mix cause and effect. The 133 college kids were already severely biased by the right wing media and their centrists professors.

John McCain and the Beltway republicans hurt Palin.

I didn't need a university study to tell me strong attractive white women that can handle a firearm scare the crap out of democrats.

re: #31 neocon hippie

Meanwhile, the Dow is down 219 points. So much for yesterday's gain.

No need to pay attention to the daily ups and downs of the market...

OT: Liberals embrace the right's "Academic freedom" concept.....

Ayers, Churchill to appear at CU student event

Former Colorado professor Ward Churchill was vilified for comparing Sept. 11 victims to Nazi Adolf Eichmann. Former Weather Underground member William Ayers was vilified as a radical.

On Thursday, they'll appear together at a student rally for academic freedom at the University of Colorado-Boulder, days before Churchill, who was fired on plagiarism charges, goes to court in an attempt to get his job back.

Churchill, Ayers and writer-activist Derrick Jensen are to speak at an event titled, "Forbidden Education and the Rise of Neo-McCarthyism." Sponsors are Students for True Academic Freedom, the 180 Degree Shift at the 11th Hour, and the Student Environmental Action Coalition.

I have no doubt that Sarah scared many democratic men who have issues with their own sexuality.

re: #49 Scorch

Depressing thought of seeing Michelle for 4 years after enjoying seeing a true first lady the last 8 years. Missing Laura just as much as George in the white house.

4 years of WAB as First Lady might shine a good light on HRC as First Lady.

This is pure BS. Even if she did lose support because of her good looks I'd wager she would more than offset that with the support of all the women (including the turnwife) who think the first dude is drop dead handsome.

Yep. It must be her looks. There's no chance it had anything to do with the savage and unfair treatment she received by the media. Or the fact that her running mate was the worst possible candidate of the republican choices. It was her looks... Abso-friggin-lutely!

/////// Ron Paul would have done better. (And I think his isolationist stance is suicide.)

re: #55 Killgore Trout

I like the Fark description:
Bill Ayers and Ward Churchill meet to discuss finding a third person to round out their Asses of Evil group

Why can't we look at a candidate for her/his abilities and STOP pushing looks and how expensive a person can dress up.

It's about as shallow as it comes. What the hell is wrong with us?

I recall when those pictures of the wrinkled Hillary first surfaced everyone was scolded about focusing on the looks of female politicians.

Aren't double standards wonderful?

No doubt that an underlying assumption about attractive women is that they slept their way up the ladder. From all indications she is an incredibly competent governor and hard worker and honest. What more do people want?

For some reason that I cannot quite figure out liberals respect and admire Hillary more than a type of woman like Palin.

Imagine waking up from a coma after 25 years and having your two grown daughters at your bedside - one Sarah - and one Hillary.

One is a governor, with an adoring husband, and 5 beautiful children, is slim and attractive, a private business owner, and is known for her honesty and integrity.

The other is dumpy, married to a man who is a serial adulterer, has had episodes of physical violence in the marriage, and has one daughter who she forgot to retrieve from hotel room while on a business trip (in russia) (who works for a hedge fund.) She is known to be conniving, dishonest and ruthless, and has a cackle that will peel paint.

Why is there even a question as to who is more competent?

So - does this mean Brad Pitt would be hampered by his looks if he ran for something? I don't THINK so.

It's the old pretty woman thing. I think also a LOT of men saw "the sexy librarian" when they looked at her. It was always in the back of their minds.

Kellan Lutz for President.

re: #20 SlartyBartfast

"She hardly demonstrated a grasp of the issues..."?

A grasp, nevertheless--unlike the media's darling who never held the reigns of power to anything more complex than a tricycle.

That generalization only serves to diminsh the writer.

I will say one thing: that's a sharp-looking shotgun!

Or Mr Joe Biden with his 22 mistakes during the VP debates....

re: #34 CIA Reject

in 1962 it was a joke!

Sadly, no longer...

The movie was more recent, with Robert DeNiro as Fearless Leader, and Jason Alexander and Rene Russo as Boris and Natasha.
Moose and Squirrel played themselves.
(No, Bullwinkle, bad moose, I didn't say you played with yourselves)

(But I did just buy seasons 1-3 of the original animated show on DVD)

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

Why can't we look at a candidate for her/his abilities and STOP pushing looks and how expensive a person can dress up.

It's about as shallow as it comes. What the hell is wrong with us?

Well just speaking for myself, I think the fantasies I had of myself with Palin were perfectly fine. OK, maybe a tad on the wild side but hey.....

re: #62 Walter L. Newton
Good question Walter!
I have an idea!
Ya'll now any good GRANT writers?
Get me a piece of the pie!

Drawing so many people that you have to hold your rallies at a Bass Pro shop parking lot hurt her.

/

re: #35 VegasRick

I'd rather have Rocky or Bullwinkle in office than the zero.

So would I.

BTW, in the movie, there is a mole in the president's office.

re: #65 Catttt

So - does this mean Brad Pitt would be hampered by his looks if he ran for something? I don't THINK so.

It's the old pretty woman thing. I think also a LOT of men saw "the sexy librarian" when they looked at her. It was always in the back of their minds.

Kellan Lutz for President.

There are plenty of attractive GOP women in congress, and in state legislatures, but it is the smart GOP's voting for them. I think liberals are too threatened and envious.

re: #68 Nevergiveup

Well just speaking for myself, I think the fantasies I had of myself with Palin were perfectly fine. OK, maybe a tad on the wild side but hey.....

Did she make you beg for clemency?

re: #53 bulwrk

I didn't need a university study to tell me strong attractive white women that can handle a firearm scare the crap out of democrats.

Speaking of firearms, ordered 500 rounds of 30-06 for 40 cents a round and 300 rounds of 22-250 for 80 cents a round. Ouch that small caliber hurt but love the muzzle velocity.

The media judged both Palin and Obama only on their appearance and stopped digging any deeper than that. They became intoxicated with the thought of "America's first African American President" and stifled any real investigation into Obama's background and qualifications.

With Palin, I think they perceived a real threat, particlarly when they saw how energized the GOP base became. Thus, her looks became the avenue of attack. They placed enormous pressure on her, basically trying to make every move a mistake.

The GOP old guard also didn't step up and help - I'm thinking of Peggy Noonan, here.

McCain and his b-team band of staffers didn't do her any favors either.

I'm sure had she opted to abort Trig she would have been a media darling.

re: #74 DaddyG

Did she make you beg for clemency?

Was that you I saw peering around the corner?

Ridiculous. Chris Matthews and most of the liberal media were obviously very attracted to Obama, and he won.

I skimmed the article, and noticed that they paired Gov. Palin with Angelina Jolie. Nothing against Ms. Jolie - she's done some good work - but what the hell. When it comes to politics/governance, comparing the two is like comparing a Bentley to a Ford Focus.

"Well, let's see, they're both cars."

"What else?"

"Uhh......"

It's silly.

re: #24 calvin coolidge

I'm waiting for the brain trust at Indiana University to release their report.

Yup, it's articles like this that disprove that study.

re: #69 reloadingisnotahobby

Good question Walter!
I have an idea!
Ya'll now any good GRANT writers?
Get me a piece of the pie!

I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not involved in grants. I don't get a piece of any grant pie. What did you ask?

re: #75 Scorch

I'm lucky to find brass for that price!
NOT fair!

re: #78 Nevergiveup

Was that you I saw peering around the corner?

That's leering thank you!

Way OT: Only a broken arm. Hit by a train and a semi-truck

re: #82 Walter L. Newton

I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not involved in grants. I don't get a piece of any grant pie. What did you ask?

Because I think we all would like you help in making up out grant request to see if we can get a piece of the pie. We think you write well.

Frontloader attack:

Schachar said the man was killed and an open copy of the Quran, Islam's holy book, was found in the vehicle. He said the presence of the book indicated the attacker was affiliated with or influenced by Islamic radicals. Police said the two wounded officers were lightly hurt.

I think that's one of the most spectacularly badly designed studies I've ever seen. How they thought it would "measure" the impact of Palin's looks on the election is beyond me.

Start with their sample: College undergrads. Excuse me? How many were likely McCain/Palin voters to begin with? They were going to find more Jolie voters than that.

It may be that America is not ready for an attractive woman as president. I happen to agree that beautiful women have a hard time being taken seriously. But this study doesn't come close to being evidence for that.

re: #82 Walter L. Newton

Just a joke!
....Getting a Gov.. grant to find out what really IS wrong with us!

re: #50 JammieWearingFool
Worf? have to google images now. lol brb

Dennis Miller on Sarah Palin

Who doesn't take Megyn Kelly seriously. Did anyone see her chew up and spit out Arlen Spector before his big vote? She was a firecracker.

re: #87 Nevergiveup

Because I think we all would like you help in making up out grant request to see if we can get a piece of the pie. We think you write well.

You said it better!
I've read grants for some very peculiar thing!

re: #87 Nevergiveup

Because I think we all would like you help in making up out grant request to see if we can get a piece of the pie. We think you write well.

I won't take grant money. I've explained that here in the past. I write because I like to write, sometimes my stuff gets produced and sometimes a make a few dollars from it. But, I'm not interested in someone giving me money ahead of time, public money, to write.

And I'm not interested in writing grants.

re: #75 Scorch

Speaking of firearms, ordered 500 rounds of 30-06 for 40 cents a round and 300 rounds of 22-250 for 80 cents a round. Ouch that small caliber hurt but love the muzzle velocity.

Okay, gotta ask: where the heck are you finding 30-06 at .40 a round? That's a great price - if what they're going for around here is any example (almost $1.00).

re: #76 Gearhead

Peggy Noonan is a turncoat. I agree appearances weigh heavy in the leftie decision making process. After all, the NYT had a front page story today about how O is already beginning to gray.

re: #86 Erik The Red

Way OT: Only a broken arm. Hit by a train and a semi-truck

Nice analogy for the Obama bailout & budget and our economy.

OMG. I found a picture of Worf!

re: #77 soxfan4life

I'm sure had she opted to abort Trig she would have been a media darling.

Sick but true.

re: #100 turn

Sick but true.

Truly sad isn't it.

re: #96 subsailor68
That's about my cost to reload them!

re: #67 Kosh's Shadow

The movie was more recent, with Robert DeNiro as Fearless Leader, and Jason Alexander and Rene Russo as Boris and Natasha.
Moose and Squirrel played themselves.
(No, Bullwinkle, bad moose, I didn't say you played with yourselves)

(But I did just buy seasons 1-3 of the original animated show on DVD)

Watch the DVDs - the series was a treasure!

Gotta get back to work

/Cheers!

re: #88 pat

Frontloader attack:

Schachar said the man was killed and an open copy of the Quran, Islam's holy book, was found in the vehicle. He said the presence of the book indicated the attacker was affiliated with or influenced by Islamic radicals. Police said the two wounded officers were lightly hurt.

I hope they treated the Quran with respect, Muslims around the world will seethe.
/I won't say what they should do with it, and the terrorist's body

re: #50 JammieWearingFool

Yes, let's pretend her being hot was a detriment.

While we're at it, let's all swoon over Obama's hulking wife the Worf and pretend she's some fashion icon.

Worf. Awesome though I think that's an insult to Klingons!

re: #95 Walter L. Newton

I won't take grant money. I've explained that here in the past. I write because I like to write, sometimes my stuff gets produced and sometimes a make a few dollars from it. But, I'm not interested in someone giving me money ahead of time, public money, to write.

And I'm not interested in writing grants.

That's fine, but would you help us less principled lizards try and get a piece of the gravy train?
/ anyway we are mostly joking

re: #83 reloadingisnotahobby

I'm lucky to find brass for that price!
NOT fair!

It's greek circa 1960's but my buds tell me it's good ammo.

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

Why can't we look at a candidate for her/his abilities and STOP pushing looks and how expensive a person can dress up.

It's about as shallow as it comes. What the hell is wrong with us?

The television is the most important source of information and entertainment in the lives of the vast majority of Americans and you have to ask that question?

re: #102 reloadingisnotahobby

That's about my cost to reload them!

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too!

re: #88 pat

Frontloader attack:

You mean he wasn't a Buddhist after all?

/

re: #64 DistantThunder
Excellent comment DT, wish I could give you a 100 updings for that one.
The funny thing is that of all four candidates (Obama, Mcain Biden and Palin) she was by far the most qualified to GOVERN. She'd one it already - as a mayor and as a governor. She'd had to come up with a budget in each job, figure out the needs of her constituents, find a way to meet those needs (usually, but not always meaning taxes and attracting businesses and jobs) and lay it all out and have a legislature approve it. That's more "governing experience" than Obama, Biden and McCain put together.
Foreign policy? She would have done better, but certainly no worse than Obama (I don't think anyone on the current political scene could have done worse than he has).
As I said, great post DT!

re: #93 DistantThunder

Who doesn't take Megyn Kelly seriously. Did anyone see her chew up and spit out Arlen Spector before his big vote? She was a firecracker.

Here's the video where she goes after him ont he helath care provision int he stimulous bill. check out the exchange near the end at 5:45. Made me laugh.

[Link: www.mofopolitics.com...]

re: #104 CIA Reject

Watch the DVDs - the series was a treasure!

Gotta get back to work

/Cheers!

I bought them to watch.
Now I have something I'm really going to like.

Well of course.

If she is pretty, she is a bimbo.

If she was not, well that would be a problem too.

But on the other hand, everyone loves how obama looks and it is not a problem. And Sullivan obsesses on Edwards's hair.

But don't go thinking this is a gender thing. Because all of this would be reversed, mostly, if Palin was a Democrat.

re: #108 Scorch

Can I have dibbs on your spent brass?
Primer crimp just adds one step in case prep!
Thanks in advance!
Need any up dings?
I'll stop groveling now!

This is more like it.

re: #97 turn

Peggy Noonan is a turncoat. I agree appearances weigh heavy in the leftie decision making process. After all, the NYT had a front page story today about how O is already beginning to gray.

When you think about the broadcast media in particular, they have so much pressure on themselves re: their appearance (I just read a story about Rachel Maddow's need to "glam up"). Really, it's like they're just filtering the rest of the world through their own experiences. We all do that, but they act as if they are above it somehow.

re: #61 pat

I know Fark doesn't like LGF but they are some really funny folks over there.

re: #114 Kosh's Shadow

I bought them to watch.
Now I have something I'm really going to like.

Personally I'm looking forward to this...

re: #119 Gearhead

When you think about the broadcast media in particular, they have so much pressure on themselves re: their appearance (I just read a story about Rachel Maddow's need to "glam up"). Really, it's like they're just filtering the rest of the world through their own experiences. We all do that, but they act as if they are above it somehow.

There's not enough air to air brush that Fugly Bitch.

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

Hey there buzz, I've been known to make fashion statements with my outdoor apparel :.)

Citigroup shares tumble below $1

[Link: biz.yahoo.com...]

THIS is really freak en unbelievable.

re: #111 turn

You mean he wasn't a Buddhist after all?

/

Surprising choice of "weapons" as Muslim men are backhoers, not frontloaders.

The one is speaking now on health care.

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

You didn't follow the recent Fashion Week in New York? Everybody's wearing turncoats this season.

The turncoats are coming! The turncoats are coming!

As a rule, I try to avoid garments that fasten in the back.

re: #126 BatGuano

Thank you for using a lower case "o"!

re: #107 Nevergiveup

That's fine, but would you help us less principled lizards try and get a piece of the gravy train?
/ anyway we are mostly joking

I didn't know if anyone was joking. Because I work for a non-profit organization, I get a lot of "well, you take public funds." Well, we do, some. There is a fund called the SCFD (Scientific and Cultural Facilities District) which collects 1 penny on every 10 dollars spent in the area. And then that money is split between over 400 organizations. And not evenly. The Denver Center for the Performing arts gets 14 million, we get 35-50 thousand, depending on the year.

Most of our funding is patrons, members and a few private funding sources. We are very good stewards of the money we make from ticket sales, and the quality of our work more than makes up for the little bit of funding that we do get.

We generally stay away from playing the grant game. That can take up so much of your time, you have no time to actually produce a quality product.

It's the Bank of Obama. Bail out yourself or your friends. Considering that Obama is treating the US dollar like Monopoly money, this isn't far off.

Palin's looks...Palin's clothes...yaddayaddayadda.

How do you spell MISOGYNY?

re: #112 realwest

Excellent comment DT, wish I could give you a 100 updings for that one.
The funny thing is that of all four candidates (Obama, Mcain Biden and Palin) she was by far the most qualified to GOVERN. She'd one it already - as a mayor and as a governor. She'd had to come up with a budget in each job, figure out the needs of her constituents, find a way to meet those needs (usually, but not always meaning taxes and attracting businesses and jobs) and lay it all out and have a legislature approve it. That's more "governing experience" than Obama, Biden and McCain put together.
Foreign policy? She would have done better, but certainly no worse than Obama (I don't think anyone on the current political scene could have done worse than he has).
As I said, great post DT!

Thanks realwest. I don't think our electorate has a clue as to how to choose a competent candidate, and so they bypass quality, and buy into the Santa Claus delusion.

re: #96 subsailor68

Here's the link but they are out.
[Link: www.cheaperthandirt.com...]

re: #112 realwest

The funny thing is that of all four candidates (Obama, Mcain Biden and Palin) she was by far the most qualified to GOVERN.

You know, I pointed that out here and on other forums only to have so-called conservative voters tell me she was just an empty fluff ball chosen for her looks. The problem isn't just on the left. There are plenty of shallow, self absorbed twits on the right as well.

re: #42 Iron Fist

She should be childless, angry, and shrill. Like Susan Sarandon or Rosie O'Donnel.

Sarandon and O'Donnel have children. They don't have husbands. That makes them more credible on the big issues.

////

Nary a word of media man crushes on The Obama expressed with such giddy abandon.

Palin's look might have had an effect but what really hurt Palin was Palin. It wasn't unfair media coverage or some grand liberal conspiracy. I tried to like Palin until I heard her interview with Dobson. She is responsible for her own failure.

re: #135 Scorch

Here's the link but they are out.
[Link: www.cheaperthandirt.com...]

Cool! Thanks. (And nope, I'm not surprised they're out.)

re: #119 Gearhead

When you think about the broadcast media in particular, they have so much pressure on themselves re: their appearance (I just read a story about Rachel Maddow's need to "glam up"). Really, it's like they're just filtering the rest of the world through their own experiences. We all do that, but they act as if they are above it somehow.

Lefties are so full of themselves. Ha, that dyke couldn't "glam up" if her life depended on it.

re: #126 BatGuano

The one is speaking now on health care.

That explains my sudden, post-nasal drip.

re: #137 kynna

Sarandon and O'Donnel have children. They don't have husbands. That makes them more credible on the big issues.

////

Isn't Sarandon married to that actor?

re: #125 AuntAcid

Hey that was good!

re: #143 Nevergiveup

Isn't Sarandon married to that actor?

AFAIK, Sarandon and Tim Robbins have been together for years, but never married.

re: #126 BatGuano

The one is speaking now on health care.

There goes all the health care stocks.

re: #143 Nevergiveup

Isn't Sarandon married to that actor?

Nup. They are 'partners'.

re: #128 Iron Fist

It appears that the one and His minions has decided not to take up gun control, at least not yet.

They're not going to be that blatant, yet. What I expect to see is huge taxes and restrictions of ammunition that are inserted into non related bills in the hopes we won't find out about it until it's a done deal.

re: #126 BatGuano

The one is speaking now on health care.

and the market is where? oh -184 and change

re: #145 subsailor68

AFAIK, Sarandon and Tim Robbins have been together for years, but never married.

So they are living in sin? You mean their kids are bastards? Whoda thought that?

re: #147 kynna

Nup. They are 'partners'.

How come everyone seems to know this but me? I really got to get out more.

Pentgon Targeted In Suspected Missile Plot

Seven men associated with Hezbollah, are locked up for trying to make a deal with an F-B-I informant: You attack the Pentagon, we'll provide the missiles.

Although a few of the men were in the U.S. illegally, all seven were holding valid Virginia Driver's Licenses.

Sameh Ibrahim, Muhammed Jameel Abdelazez, Akram Salih, Ibrahim Fadel Hamed and Ayman Ibrahim along with his brother Basem Ibrahim all lived in Alexandria.

The group's alleged kingpin Amjad Mustafa Hamed, the one who pleaded guilty to trying to sell shoulder fired missiles, lived in Springfield.

re: #141 turn

Lefties are so full of themselves. Ha, that dyke couldn't "glam up" if her life depended on it.

She and Neal Boortz need to do a 'Hannity and Colmes'-style show (maybe call it 'Faces for Radio')

I can imagine the fireworks now...

re: #129 reloadingisnotahobby

Funny you should mention that. Now that I think about it I try to capitalize proper names, capitals, titles, etc., But as I typed it, I didn't feel compelled to capitalize it.

Anyone see Rosanne's latest?

ohlmert you lie

Palin is extremely charismatic. Her beauty is part of the package. She'll be back.

re: #146 Kosh's Shadow

There goes all the health care stocks.

Yeah, he started his speech, "My fellow, young, healthy, clueless Americans, it is time to tell your parents, grandparents, and anyone else who's not feeling well that it is time to pass the torch to a new, hale and hearty generation."

Makes me sick.

(Oops.)

re: #140 subsailor68

Cool! Thanks. (And nope, I'm not surprised they're out.)

Your welcome. Always ready to help out a fellow swabbie and gun enthusiast.

re: #152 Kenneth

Sameh Ibrahim, Muhammed Jameel Abdelazez, Akram Salih, Ibrahim Fadel Hamed and Ayman Ibrahim along with his brother Basem Ibrahim all lived in Alexandria.

The group's alleged kingpin Amjad Mustafa Hamed, the one who pleaded guilty to trying to sell shoulder fired missiles, lived in Springfield.

Quakers?

re: #145 subsailor68

AFAIK, Sarandon and Tim Robbins have been together for years, but never married.

This is actually to their credit. Would you marry either one of them?

They could probably be considered 'common law'. I don't know the details of their home life, or even if they live in the same home. Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell have a similar situation.

But I do think Palin being in a happy marriage with lots of kids and a dreamy husband hurt her with the libs and even some moderates.

Just can't trust the happy ones, can ya? //

How about that second comment at the bottom - how "she could easily ruin the country with her lack of a grasp of basic concepts." Sounds a lot like the guy they voted for, as we watch the stock market nose-dive.

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

Have they signed up for domestic partnership?

Is marriage to middle class for them. Other commie bastards were married weren't they? Lenin was married.

re: #160 NJDhockeyfan

Presbyterians most likely.

re: #151 Nevergiveup

How come everyone seems to know this but me? I really got to get out more.

Oh no, you're the lucky one. The less you know about Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins the better!

re: #167 kynna

Oh no, you're the lucky one. The less you know about Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins the better!

Good point.

re: #133 littleoldlady

lol! You spelled it properly.

The biggest obstacle a woman faces in seeking high office is other women. So says Don Surber

re: #157 subsailor68

Yeah, he started his speech, "My fellow, young, healthy, clueless Americans, it is time to tell your parents, grandparents, and anyone else who's not feeling well that it is time to pass the torch to a new, hale and hearty generation."

Makes me sick.

(Oops.)

Looks like euthanasia will be vogue here in the US as it is in the Netherlands.

re: #162 kynna

This is actually to their credit. Would you marry either one of them?

Good point! Their being together keeps them out of the overall gene pool.

(Or at least stuck in the shallow end.)

;-)

re: #142 MandyManners

That explains my sudden, post-nasal drip.

I written here before that we are on the NJ state health plan because New Jersey has frozen out or crowded out other insurers in the the state that don't automatically accept any applicant even if that person is in the middle of very expensive treatment. My alumni insurance is illegal in NJ.

Anyway, today we went to the dentist where my son was to have a filing. He came out with a cap on a back tooth. I was suspicious. I had read an undercover review of dental offices who over-diagnose problems so they can bill at the higher level. And it is an odd office with all these signs about various rules about where you can sit, and who can sit in the waiting room, etc. It's very controling. From the looks of the other clients, they are on the state insurance too.

Another time I used the county health facility to get an immunization for my son. It was a nightmare. Not only did it take about 2.5 hours, but they herded large groups of us from room to room, and had us all stand up at the same time, and move enmass to the next room, then snake along several corridors until we were next in line. It had to have been a firecode violation to have so many of standing in the hallways.

When I went for a free breast exam, they scheduled 20 people at 9am, and 20 more at 1pm. I finally had to leave, but I asked them why they had such a bizarre way of scheduling. The girl said because so many people don't show up. I said maybe they would show up if they didn't have to wait for hours and hours. Morons.

Good luck America.

re: #32 Iron Fist

This strikes me as having been an answer in search of a question. By which I mean that the so-called "researchers" had a position that they wanted to put forward (i.e. being attractive hurt Palin), so they went looking to create the data that supported their conclusions. One minor flaw in this thesis is that Barrack Obama is an attractive man. If Palin's looks hurt her, what about the Messiah's looks?

What the "researchers" meant to say is that Palin is a poopyhead, and that if she'd been elected they would have wet the bed, screamed for their mommy, and sucked their thumb for four years. These "researchers" are "scientists" in the same way a river carp is a koi.

Good point. What the election showed, in part, was that the country doesn't have as much of a racial problem as it does a problem with sexism. Just look at how the media treated Hillary (who I am no fan of). If a woman cries, she's weak. If she doesn't, she's a heartless bitch.

As far as her "grasp of the issues" I think it's actually fair to say that Palin had not really paid much attention to national/ issues, and was completely caught by surprise when she was suddenly throw into a national campaign - it showed at times.

That being said, her accomplishments - which exceeding that of Obama's (which isn't hard to do) were largely ignored. My favorite was that she did more for the cause of energy independence that all of Congress - she got the ball rolling on a pipeline through Canada. The project had festered for decades, but she got it going - including international negotiations (with Canada) in her first term. My second favorite was that she had indisputably dealt harshly with corruption in politics, while the Lightworker only talked about it (and it's becoming clear that it was all talk).

It's amazing how many people claimed to be mortally fearful of Palin as just a VP, while being completely unconcerned about Obama having the same weaknesses (and more). My sister even picked on her having gone to college on a beauty pageant scholarship. So while at the same time she was lamenting how women are discriminated against in politics and elsewhere, she was guilty of the same.

Oh, and let's not forget about the new Senator from New York. She's also young, attractive, and has an infant child. I'm still waiting to hear about the news stories condemning her for being a "bad mother" for taking that big-deal federal job, or for how she's a dimwit. Oh - that's right - she's got that "D" thing going on, so the rules are different for her. So there's that going on too - the media bias.

I'm sure the campaign staff's incompetence had nothing to do with the loss.

re: #155 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone see Rosanne's latest?

ohlmert you lie

Dude, I just ate lunch and you go and link to Rosanne? Not nice. /

“It wasn’t her appearance per se” that soured people on Palin, Heflick said in an interview. “It was the effect her appearance had on their perception of her competence and humanity. Those variables made people less likely to vote for her.” (Not surprisingly, the participants’ feelings about Jolie did not influence their political opinions, whether they focused on her looks or personality.)

This sums up how vapid, shallow and empty we've become as a society. And people like this vote? Heaven help us.
We need a fucking voting competency test. You need to be able to demostrate that you have at least 2 brain cells in your head that can occasionally collide and produce a thought.

re: #161 buzzsawmonkey

Actually, by her own account, Roseanne Barr announced publicly she had been diagnosed with multiple personality disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, depression and agoraphobia. She's pathetic & not worth quoting let alone getting upset over.

re: #11 Honorary Yooper

And the really strange thing ... Obama isn't good looking. Palin is. I'm a straight female, too.

Obama is simply not a handsome man.

re: #28 Amer-I-Can

I guess if you look at "Liberal Chicks", you could see how beauty and brains don't go together very well on the left.

That was pretty close to my first thought. Compare Nancy, Hillary, the Code Pinkers and the Berkely females to Palin and you can see exactly why the left went ballistic.

re: #164 Iron Fist

Nodisrespect, but you aren't going to like any Christian, no matter what they espouse. If they were to go far enough afield for you to support them, then they would no longer be Christian.

I liked Rudy (Catholic). Mitt (Mormon) wasn't too bad. I think Kennedy (Catholic) was a good president. As was Reagan (Presbyterian).

re: #178 Kenneth

Actually, by her own account, Roseanne Barr announced publicly she had been diagnosed with multiple personality disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, depression and agoraphobia. She's pathetic & not worth quoting let alone getting upset over.

And every one of them sucks.

re: #173 DistantThunder

"Who can sit in the waiting room"? What's that all about?

re: #173 DistantThunder

WOW we lived in Jersey several years ago and the health care was excellent, along with the food.

wow...

Stock market down pass -200. Who in the government spoke today?

re: #173 DistantThunder

I presume you are talking about a crown on a baby tooth? I also assume it is a very large dental office? Still they should have talked to you before they proceeded. We always do, but most of the time the parent is right there bullshitting with us while we treat their kids.

re: #97 turn

Peggy Noonan is a turncoat. I agree appearances weigh heavy in the leftie decision making process. After all, the NYT had a front page story today about how O is already beginning to gray.

Scientists are beginning to gather clues that stress can hasten the graying process, but there is no scientific evidence demonstrating a cause-and-effect relationship.

re: #173 DistantThunder

Welcome to DMV healthcare.
Sorry, you have the wrong forms. You'll just have to fill out the correct ones and go back to the end of the line. And clean up that blood you're dripping everywhere!

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

Stock market down pass -200. Who in the government spoke today?

Treasury Sec. And also some guy named Obama

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

Stock market down pass -200. Who in the government spoke today?

They're politicians, who didn't speak?

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

Stock market down pass -200. Who in the government spoke today?

Health care conference today. It's enough to make a stock trader jump out a window.

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

Stock market down pass -200. Who in the government spoke today?

Market has been weak all day...GM a big driver.

Is this now a pun thread?

re: #174 Optimizer

Nice rant. Especially since I agree. :D

Every time that man opens his mouth, my retirement gets pushed back another five years.

Oh, I forgot.

1) Let's remember that choosing Palin brought McCain's polling numbers up even with Obama - so she helped his campaign. Those numbers tanked at the exact same time as the financial system imploded. So McCain didn't lose because of Palin - she was an asset.

2) Oh, and I'm sure we all remember that Palin seemed to have a pretty good grasp of how many states there are. So there was that media bias too. Obama, and the gaffe machine he ran, could do no wrong, as far as the media was concerned. Palin, in contrast, was held responsible for dippy things said by Tina Fey, for cryin' out loud!

People are already panicking here in the NY/NJ metropolitan area about A-Rod being out for a long time. I say good riddance.

re: #174 Optimizer

Good point. What the election showed, in part, was that the country doesn't have as much of a racial problem as it does a problem with sexism. Just look at how the media treated Hillary (who I am no fan of). If a woman cries, she's weak. If she doesn't, she's a heartless bitch.

As far as her "grasp of the issues" I think it's actually fair to say that Palin had not really paid much attention to national/ issues, and was completely caught by surprise when she was suddenly throw into a national campaign - it showed at times.

That being said, her accomplishments - which exceeding that of Obama's (which isn't hard to do) were largely ignored. My favorite was that she did more for the cause of energy independence that all of Congress - she got the ball rolling on a pipeline through Canada. The project had festered for decades, but she got it going - including international negotiations (with Canada) in her first term. My second favorite was that she had indisputably dealt harshly with corruption in politics, while the Lightworker only talked about it (and it's becoming clear that it was all talk).

It's amazing how many people claimed to be mortally fearful of Palin as just a VP, while being completely unconcerned about Obama having the same weaknesses (and more). My sister even picked on her having gone to college on a beauty pageant scholarship. So while at the same time she was lamenting how women are discriminated against in politics and elsewhere, she was guilty of the same.

Oh, and let's not forget about the new Senator from New York. She's also young, attractive, and has an infant child. I'm still waiting to hear about the news stories condemning her for being a "bad mother" for taking that big-deal federal job, or for how she's a dimwit. Oh - that's right - she's got that "D" thing going on, so the rules are different for her. So there's that going on too - the media bias.

I wish I could give you 1000 updings....

Well, her looks hurt her with certain female "conservatives" like Kathleen Parker, leading them to scramble around to find more "respectable" reasons to dump all overf her.

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

Stock market down pass -200. Who in the government spoke today?

Barry's apparently talking healthcare right about now.....

Also China annuonced that they will NOT be implementing another stimulus at this time - rumor of that sparked our bounce yesterday. Sad that China new is driving our stock market to this extent.

re: #195 Gearhead

Every time that man opens his mouth, my retirement gets pushed back another five years.

Shit your lucky, they just reposed my burial plot?
/

re: #183 MandyManners

"Who can sit in the waiting room"? What's that all about?

They had me sign a form that said it was mandatory that I accompany my child in the exam room. So I left my 13 year old and 11 year old in the waiting room. Then they told me that they had a rule that I had to stay with the 13 year old and 11 year old, who were both sitting quietly watching a movie. Another sign on the door at the reception area said: You must wait to be escorted back to an exam room. I thought: What's been going on here that they've had to make signs and rules about these things - some of which contradict each other.

I don't believe a thing the media says - if she were a democrat and had been on Obama's ticket the media would have been salivating and falling all over themselves because she's so pretty. The liberals are pretty bereft of good looking women - leftist women can be summed up by Bella Abzug and Helen Thomas.

Ugly wimmins is always jealous of teh hawt.

re: #96 subsailor68

Okay, gotta ask: where the heck are you finding 30-06 at .40 a round? That's a great price - if what they're going for around here is any example (almost $1.00).

That Greek .30-06 is what the Civilian Marksmanship Program is selling, last I heard. Supposed to be pretty good, despite the age. They probably kept it in a cool cellar with the feta.

re: #202 DistantThunder

They had me sign a form that said it was mandatory that I accompany my child in the exam room. So I left my 13 year old and 11 year old in the waiting room. Then they told me that they had a rule that I had to stay with the 13 year old and 11 year old, who were both sitting quietly watching a movie. Another sign on the door at the reception area said: You must wait to be escorted back to an exam room. I thought: What's been going on here that they've had to make signs and rules about these things - some of which contradict each other.

Not even Orwell could make that up...

re: #196 Optimizer

Keep 'em comin'! ;D

Another thing -- Palin was the only one in the GOP who had the balls (yes, balls) to say Obama's a socialist and his associates are criminals. Then she was hung out to dry. :p

re: #136 Wendya
"There are plenty of shallow, self absorbed twits on the right as well."
Boy ain't that the truth. If someone could look at this past election dispassionately - and ignore Obama's stupendous amount of money and having the MSM in his back pocket - if voters really THOUGHT about who was better suited to GOVERN the US, there's just no way they don't pick McCain/Palin, cause the other side's experience is all in foreign affairs and THAT comes because Joe Biden sat his ass in a senate subcommittee seat.
This is all bullshit about Palin - she was qualified to be mayor of a small town, she was qualified to be Governor of a State all because she tended to look out for her constitutents. Period. McCain, despite my differences with him on a bunch of things was at least clearly in Love with America and Americans - his constituency.
I don't even think the Jury's out on Obama, I don't think by anything he's said or done that he loves America or is necessarily looking out for OUR best interests, just his own.

re: #203 ladycatnip

I don't believe a thing the media says - if she were a democrat and had been on Obama's ticket the media would have been salivating and falling all over themselves because she's so pretty. The liberals are pretty bereft of good looking women - leftist women can be summed up by Bella Abzug and Helen Thomas.

Somebody pass the brain bleach, please.

re: #27 Kosh's Shadow

The Rocky and Bullwinkle movie was accurate.
(In it, Fearless Leader creates a TV network that reduces people's intelligence until they vote for him for President.)
And that is different from reality how?

We don't have Moose and Squirell to save us...

Healthcare conference brainstorming ideas on how to shame over 50's to sign a voluntary euthanasia card when they renew their drivers license.

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re: #187 Nevergiveup

I presume you are talking about a crown on a baby tooth? I also assume it is a very large dental office? Still they should have talked to you before they proceeded. We always do, but most of the time the parent is right there bullshitting with us while we treat their kids.

Yes, a big ugly metal thing. None of my other 6 children have ever had one, and that's not what I was told at the last appointment was going to happen.

Sigh. More good news:

Mortgage defaults, foreclosures spreading

From the first paragraph:

A stunning 48 percent of the nation's homeowners who have a subprime, adjustable-rate mortgage are behind on their payments or in foreclosure, and that's not the worst of it, new data Thursday showed.

To be fair, it's spreading to fixed-rate holders as well, but it does seem to indicate that - barring a policy that just tells these people they don't have to pay at all - the "Making Home Affordable" program is just throwing more money at a problem that's not going to go away.

The moonbats might prefer somebody who looks like Barbara Mikulski (sorry if anybody was eating lunch!), but I rather have Sarah any day. Sarah has the brains and the beauty. Mikulski has neither.

re: #206 kynna

Keep 'em comin'! ;D

Another thing -- Palin was the only one in the GOP who had the balls (yes, balls) to say Obama's a socialist and his associates are criminals. Then she was hung out to dry. :p

Which makes it even more apparent that McCain was more concerned about being welcomed back by his fellow Senators than winning an election.

re: #202 DistantThunder

They had me sign a form that said it was mandatory that I accompany my child in the exam room. So I left my 13 year old and 11 year old in the waiting room. Then they told me that they had a rule that I had to stay with the 13 year old and 11 year old, who were both sitting quietly watching a movie. Another sign on the door at the reception area said: You must wait to be escorted back to an exam room. I thought: What's been going on here that they've had to make signs and rules about these things - some of which contradict each other.

I bet that they've had some kids running wild in the waiting room.

re: #165 Nevergiveup

Is marriage to middle class for them. Other commie bastards were married weren't they? Lenin was married.

To Nadezhda Krupskaya, but he was fooling around with Inessa Armand until she contracted typhus in the Caucasus and died. (or that was the story, anyhow.)

The only thing that "hurt" Palin in the eyes of the MSM, causing them to all go nuts and do their absolutely biased over the top hit pieces on her etc, was the "R" in her political affiliation...

The rest is just BS.

re: #203 ladycatnip

I don't believe a thing the media says - if she were a democrat and had been on Obama's ticket the media would have been salivating and falling all over themselves because she's so pretty. The liberals are pretty bereft of good looking women - leftist women can be summed up by Bella Abzug and Helen Thomas.

Don't forget the former secretary of state Madeline Albright. Now if anyone one needs a subsidy for female enhancement - it is democrat women.

Palin's biggest deficit isn't her looks.

She scares the holy bejebbers out of the left.

She is completely self sufficient. She needs ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM GOVERNMENT and OWES NOTHING TO GOVERNMENT.

She can go out kill the moose, dress it and serve it. It's a metaphor.

The left depends on the interchange, they give, but it's really a buying the person. You get something, you owe you loyalty, and once you are bought you stay bought.

Palin demonstrates viscerally the sovereign individual the left hates the most.

Palin was the running mate. Pretty simple math.

re: #206 kynna

Keep 'em comin'! ;D

Another thing -- Palin was the only one in the GOP who had the balls (yes, balls) to say Obama's a socialist and his associates are criminals. Then she was hung out to dry. :p

And she is being proven right every single day now.

re: #59 Iron Fist

Blow all balast tanks! Dive, dive, dive!

Yipe! There is no bottom. Not with the One in control...

We'll be reaching the Earth's outer mantle in another month or so.

Sarah is a lovely woman and a delight to listen to. That said, why is everyone saying bambi is attractive. He has weird large ears, a small head blue lips and a mole that looks like he used the back of his hand to wipe his nose and a booger stayed on his face. Denzel Washington, now he's attractive.

re: #211 DistantThunder

Yes, a big ugly metal thing. None of my other 6 children have ever had one, and that's not what I was told at the last appointment was going to happen.

Well remember the tooth is only "temporary". It will fall out some day. But sometimes the necessary treatment does change when your doing something, but still they should have told you it was a possibility before they even started.

re: #209 fish

We don't have Moose and Squirell to save us...

You have to say that with the Boris Badenov accent.

The lesson could be that Palin would have gotten more support from the MSM if she had a massive ass. Or she was a major threat to the democrat party for being a competent, accomplished, self-made woman who happens to be
conservative.

re: #204 Colonel Panik

Ugly wimmins is always jealous of teh hawt.

That Greek .30-06 is what the Civilian Marksmanship Program is selling, last I heard. Supposed to be pretty good, despite the age. They probably kept it in a cool cellar with the feta.

Thanks for the link! I'll check it out.

Had to laugh at your last sentence. For some reason I flashed on:

"Hands in the air you dirty yella dog, or I'll fill ya full of cheese."

:-)

re: #223 Cygnus

We'll be reaching the Earth's outer mantle in another month or so.

And boring into the core.

It's not just politics. Take a middle-aged journo stuck in a declining industry, on his third divorce (or her second), hair falling out, and with a drinks habit that costs them all the money that the alimony does not devour. Face him or her with this radiant creature, successful in her career, one husband, five children, looking a good ten years younger than her age, bright happy smile, and crowds of admirers. And tell me that the impulse to tear down and destroy will not take over. I have seen the same murderous and otherwise inexplicable attitude in the matter of British footballer David Beckham, whom the press has been trying to destroy for years for apparently no other reason than that he is handsome, good at his job, and has a rich and pretty wife and three nice children. Jealousy is a powerful impulse.

re: #224 imtoast

Sarah is a lovely woman and a delight to listen to. That said, why is everyone saying bambi is attractive. He has weird large ears, a small head blue lips and a mole that looks like he used the back of his hand to wipe his nose and a booger stayed on his face. Denzel Washington, now he's attractive.

Thanks for a laugh. I needed that. Yes. Denzel Washington is an example of attractive. 0? Not so much.

re: #152 Kenneth

Pentgon Targeted In Suspected Missile Plot

The group's alleged kingpin Amjad Mustafa Hamed, the one who pleaded guilty to trying to sell shoulder fired missiles, lived in Springfield.

It's all a misunderstanding. Hamed was leading an ROP religious meeting and they were talking about their missals........

re: #214 soxfan4life

re: #206 kynna

Keep 'em comin'! ;D

Another thing -- Palin was the only one in the GOP who had the balls (yes, balls) to say Obama's a socialist and his associates are criminals. Then she was hung out to dry. :p

Which makes it even more apparent that McCain was more concerned about being welcomed back by his fellow Senators than winning an election.

I for one am sorry I gave one dime to John McCain's campaign. He promised to fight for America until his last breath, but he did not deliver during the campaign. Too many Obama things were off limits, when you could bet the farm the Donks wouldn't have left associations alone if the roles were reverse. I didn't care much for McCain before, and care even less for him now.

Well y'all I gotta go now. I hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

re: #224 imtoast

Sarah is a lovely woman and a delight to listen to. That said, why is everyone saying bambi is attractive. He has weird large ears, a small head blue lips and a mole that looks like he used the back of his hand to wipe his nose and a booger stayed on his face. Denzel Washington, now he's attractive.

I find him repulsive, speaking as a woman. Scrawny, and very effeminate - a huge turn off. But the worst is a mouth that spews liberalism. [shudder]

MAY HAVE?

This site has rough language for all you lizards that need to watch that. You should hear these women bash Sarah. Take yer pick, there's only 267 links on her...

I can't recall where I got this but I'm using it all over the place:

"America, you were expecting violins? What you got was Nero".

re: #42 Iron Fist

She should be childless, angry, and shrill. Like Susan Sarandon or Rosie O'Donnel.

I'm hoping for a remake of "Moby Dick", Rosie plays the whale...:)

/S

re: #202 DistantThunder

Wait until we get nationalized health care you'll look back on that experience as the good old days.

re: #200 Russkilitlover

Barry's apparently talking healthcare right about now.....

Also China annuonced that they will NOT be implementing another stimulus at this time - rumor of that sparked our bounce yesterday. Sad that China new is driving our stock market to this extent.

Include a cartoon of a Chinese tank driving over the US economy, similar to the Tiannanenmen Square picture.

re: #188 HDrepub

Scientists are beginning to gather clues that stress can hasten the graying process, but there is no scientific evidence demonstrating a cause-and-effect relationship.

Thanks for that link. I'm usually under a lot of stress and my beard is gray but I don't have one gray hair up top, go figure.

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Palin's look might have had an effect but what really hurt Palin was Palin. It wasn't unfair media coverage or some grand liberal conspiracy. I tried to like Palin until I heard her interview with Dobson. She is responsible for her own failure.

I think you're right. The subsequent Couric interview made her look even dumber. These failures opened the floodgates.

Attractive women cannot afford to look like airheads in this country. Not even for a second.

(I see that Colonel Panik left a flaming bag of downding on your porch again. What a coward.)

It's the old pretty woman thing. I think also a LOT of men saw "the sexy librarian" when they looked at her. It was always in the back of their minds.

#65 Cattt.

I saw Ms. Davis from "Varsity Blues" but thats just me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i-tEDDw3pM

re: #212 subsailor68

Sigh. More good news:

Mortgage defaults, foreclosures spreading

From the first paragraph:

A stunning 48 percent of the nation's homeowners who have a subprime, adjustable-rate mortgage are behind on their payments or in foreclosure, and that's not the worst of it, new data Thursday showed.

To be fair, it's spreading to fixed-rate holders as well, but it does seem to indicate that - barring a policy that just tells these people they don't have to pay at all - the "Making Home Affordable" program is just throwing more money at a problem that's not going to go away.

sigh. upscale public housing. wanna bet there's some crime that came into these neighborhoods at the same time as these sub-prime borrowers? kinda like section-8.

re: #224 imtoast

Sarah is a lovely woman and a delight to listen to. That said, why is everyone saying bambi is attractive. He has weird large ears, a small head blue lips and a mole that looks like he used the back of his hand to wipe his nose and a booger stayed on his face. Denzel Washington, now he's attractive.

Those blue lips seem indicative of cyanosis from a lifetime of puffing cigarettes.

re: #164 Iron Fist

Nodisrespect, but you aren't going to like any Christian, no matter what they espouse. If they were to go far enough afield for you to support them, then they would no longer be Christian.

Killgore Trout said nothing about Christianity. You (and your updingers) owe him an apology.

re: #210 vagabond trader

Healthcare conference brainstorming ideas on how to shame over 50's to sign a voluntary euthanasia card when they renew their drivers license.

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The government is opening a new school for Geriatric Medicine, headed by a Dr. Kervorkian.

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Pure double standard. Yes, she could have performed better in the interview, but if we shall be intellectually honest, any candidate out there has given bad interviews.

To simply brush off the media is ridiculous. From the moment her name was announced, she became a target for political assassination by the media. Hell, she even threw it back in their face during a subsequent interview regarding the double standard, and the guy laughed it off, confirming it as truth.

Although I am in Pennsylvania, and by the time my state gets to vote, it usually does not matter, you actually helped me make my mind up, and vote for Rudy despite my social issues with him.

To have her shoulder all the blame from one interview, and allow him to skate given his total inclusion of the "oh's, um's, ah's" squared when attempting public speech minus an available teleprompter can't hold water. I find his eloquence suspect at best. He fucked up plenty of times if that is the voter threshold we are crossing.

Seriously.

re: #173 DistantThunder

Unbelievable. You are living a preview of Obamacare.

re: #238 Dustyvet

I'm hoping for a remake of "Moby Dick", Rosie plays the whale...:)

/S

Dusty, why do you hate whales? :)

re: #152 Kenneth Valid Virginia Drivers Liscenses

re: #238 Dustyvet

I saw the original movie poster for Moby Dick. It said, "Gregory Peck in the Title Roll". It was distributed I just don't know to what extent.

re: #241 turn

Thanks for that link. I'm usually under a lot of stress and my beard is gray but I don't have one gray hair up top, go figure.

What Really Turns Hair Gray?

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re: #252 Chicago Blonde

Dusty, why do you hate whales? :)

Umm, I don't hate whales...:(

re: #230 Fabio P.Barbieri

I reread that - brilliant. In the link I found there was a lot of whining about how Sarah still thought she was the Prom Queen. We should be beyond this crap. A lot of women on that site could articulate it as the only reason they disliked her.

I don't care what you look like. Just do a good job.

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Palin's look might have had an effect but what really hurt Palin was Palin. It wasn't unfair media coverage or some grand liberal conspiracy. I tried to like Palin until I heard her interview with Dobson. She is responsible for her own failure.

You watched her interview with James Dobson? Jeez, I didn't even know she had an interview with Dobson.

Again, McCain let the religiocons pressure him into a religiocon VP nominee. Of the possibilities, it probably came down to Palin, Jindal, or Pawlenty. My preference of the 3 was Pawlenty....

But I really wanted him to pick Rudy. I'm not a Romney fan, but there's no question he would have been far better choice. McCain could have sent Mitt back to handle Bush, Paulson, Pelosi, and Reid and continued campaigning. And Romney would have wiped the floor with Gibson, Couric, and Biden.

re: #256 Dustyvet

((Dustyvet))
You know I was trying to be silly right?

It didn't hurt Hillary. Oh wait. Yeesh.

re: #220 jcm

Palin's biggest deficit isn't her looks.

She scares the holy bejebbers out of the left.

She is completely self sufficient. She needs ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM GOVERNMENT and OWES NOTHING TO GOVERNMENT.

She can go out kill the moose, dress it and serve it. It's a metaphor.

The left depends on the interchange, they give, but it's really a buying the person. You get something, you owe you loyalty, and once you are bought you stay bought.

Palin demonstrates viscerally the sovereign individual the left hates the most.

I agree with this, but I think you and Killgore are talking about two different sets of anti-Palin voter.

You've explained why leftists would want to volunteer and get-out-the-vote against Palin. Killgore (and, citing other reasons, Charles) have explained why centrists would get worried about Palin, thus quietly showing up at the polls to vote against.

Palin's appearance and the visceral reaction it causes will differ between these two parties: the former act on pure tribal hatred, and the latter just roll their eyes at her TV appearances.

re: #259 Chicago Blonde

((Dustyvet))
You know I was trying to be silly right?

I know...((Chicago Blonde))....:)

re: #259 Chicago Blonde

If Dusty didn't get it, I did.

re: #263 BatGuano

If Dusty didn't get it, I did.

Dusty is slow, but not that slow...:)

The Republicans lost because the left own the media and the culture, the left did a better job vilifying the right, the left spent 8 years beating up on Bush, the left had a better ground game. Sarah Palin helped McCain energize the converted, but little else.

btw - I spoke with a very influential community business leader today in Boulder. I asked him what he thought of the run on the banks that occurred back in September before the election. He said that he was certain Soros was behind it and he too thought it was a planned event to help Obama.

re: #258 funky chicken

You watched her interview with James Dobson? Jeez, I didn't even know she had an interview with Dobson.

This was the interview...