The line must be drawn here. Here and no further.

There's a line?

I thought it was a fine line between clever and stupid.

Reagan era: "Trickle down" economics
0bama era: "Hose down" economics

I would like to be on record as condemning this week to death and declaring it Friday at 1700 hours. So start drinking.

Good Night Lizards see you on the LNDT.

WeeT dreams 2M.:)

Questions I'd love to hear asked at an 0bama press conference, but never will:

"Is your trashing of the economy intentional or unintentional?"

"Would you please detail just how far your assault on the US economy will go?"

Obama, I'll give back your waffle for my money? Deal?

Speaking of crazy:

A surer Assad reaches out to US to aid needy Syria

During eight years as Syria's president, Bashar Assad has grown more sure in his grip on power — ordering a crackdown on dissent, letting a personality cult bloom around him and opening up the economy after decades of isolation.

Now Assad is eager for a breakthrough in long strained relations with the United States, hoping for U.S. help in boosting a still weak economy and for American mediation in direct peace talks with Israel.

I have a bad feeling 0bama will help them.

Hopen sesame.

re: #9 Sharmuta

Speaking of crazy:

A surer Assad reaches out to US to aid needy Syria

I have a bad feeling 0bama will help them.

Sounds like..."You pay me money, I'll pretend to be your friend."

Wow, even Oscar Levant is commenting about Mandy from the last thread.

Wasn't it a little white line? Oh, that's Presidential drug policies, not sanity...
nevermind...

re: #5 joncelli

I would like to be on record as condemning this week to death and declaring it Friday at 1700 hours. So start drinking.

Speaking as someone who lives in Las Vegas, what's so special about 1700 hours on Friday as it relates to drinking.

/Living in land of bars that open everyday at 8 A.M., and don't close until 7:59 A.M. the following day

I can't believe how much money has evaporated out of my nest egg/house over the past 6 months thanks to the incompetency of the people ho we have elected to represent us. Even after taking steps to insulate myself.. still screwed.

re: #4 gmsc

Reagan era: "Trickle down" economics
0bama era: "Hose down" economics

I was thinking it was more like "bend over" economics.

re: #2 Sharmuta

There's a line?

One on the left, one on the right.

re: #14 gmsc

The assumption is that you wouldn't drink on a night before a workday. But Vegas plays by different rules.

/Get it? Plays? I crack me up.

re: #14 gmsc

Has construction slowed down considerably there?

Reading the financial sites, the stock slide's being blamed on everything but the 0bama Economic Annihilation plan.

re: #5 joncelli

I would like to be on record as condemning this week to death and declaring it Friday at 1700 hours. So start drinking.

Just wait till the unemployment numbers come out tomorrow. The Dow'll really love that.

It seems like more thought went into the Obama's dog selection than went into his economic "stimulus" bill.

Terrell Owens got released by the Cowboys last night. Why do I worry that Obama would consider him for a major economic position?

Wealth spreading in progress. Please wear eye and face protection.

re: #16 Sharmuta

I was thinking it was more like "bend over" economics.

BOHICAnomics.

re: #7 gmsc

Questions I'd love to hear asked at an 0bama press conference, but never will:

"Is your trashing of the economy intentional or unintentional?"

"Would you please detail just how far your assault on the US economy will go?"

Anwer:

Jameel at the Muqata pointed out that Israel is having water issues and that the recent rains have barely made a dent on the water deficit for Israel. That got me thinking that the situation in Syria is likely to be even worse than in Israel, which may explain why Syria's making moves to get the US attention.

They need the US to put pressure on Israel to give up access to the Golan since that's where the water is - the headwaters of the Jordan River and the Kinneret (Sea of Galilee).

TCF to give back TARP funds

TCF Financial is giving the U.S. Treasury back the $361 million in TARP funds it got late last year because new strings attached make it a less attractive deal, the bank said Monday.

Wayzata-based TCF Financial filed a notice with the Treasury department to pay the funds back, pending approval from its primary regulator, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency.

"Over time, they've changed the deal," said TCF CEO Bill Cooper, referring to Congress's decision to place restrictions on dividends, employee bonuses and executive compensation.

TCF isn't the first to give back TARP funds, though it's certainly on the leading edge of what might become a trend. On Friday, Layfayette, La.-based IberiaBank Corp. said it intended to pay back the $90 million in TARP funds it received in December.

I hope this starts a trend. Government $ = Government rules. And some banks are smart enough to realize they don't want to play that game.

Last hour - downside accelerating.

DJI -323

re: #23 livefreeor die

Terrell Owens got released by the Cowboys last night. Why do I worry that Obama would consider him for a major economic position?

Does he have tax problems?

re: #5 joncelli

Start with grappa.

Down 317 with 20 minutes to go.

6500 is next.

re: #24 Peacekeeper

Wealth spreading in progress. Please wear eye and face protection.

I thought rear-end protection would be more appropriate.

Lines? We don't need no stinkin' lines.

On that note, I will see you all down the road. Later lizards!

re: #23 livefreeor die

At least with respect to personality and personal ethics he'd fit right in.

/Crazy in Philly and crazy in Dallas = just plain crazy.

re: #28 Sharmuta

TCF to give back TARP funds

I hope this starts a trend. Government $ = Government rules. And some banks are smart enough to realize they don't want to play that game.

It also tells you they didn't need the money in the first place.

re: #18 joncelli

My sister just bought a house in Vegas. The people paid her $20,000 to take over their mortgage.
So, buy a house get 20 large!
Damn! Why did she get all the brains!?!

Shrinkage!

re: #32 Bloodnok

Down 317 with 20 minutes to go.

6500 is next.

Ah shit. Tomorrow's not going to be much better, I fear. Some bargain hunting early, then the numbers come out.

re: #29 SummerSong

Last hour - downside accelerating.

DJI -323

Under 6500 by days end?

re: #7 gmsc

Questions I'd love to hear asked at an 0bama press conference, but never will:

"Is your trashing of the economy intentional or unintentional?"

"Would you please detail just how far your assault on the US economy will go?"

Do you think Obama or any of his cronies made money by shorting stocks?

re: #38 Peacekeeper

Shrinkage!

Usually caused by swimming in cold water.

re: #30 CyanSnowHawk

Does he have tax problems?

Well April 15th is just around the corner-I imagine he could develop some if it's part of the job description.

re: #36 Lee Coller

Greta interviewed the TCF CEO last night. He said they've had 50 quarters of positive revenue in part by loaning money to people who can pay it back. THERE'S a novel concept!

re: #31 Ojoe

Ooog. I've had grappa. I don't have a day I can waste on recovering. And don't get me started on ouzo.

Non-lizards are finally starting to notice how woefully incoherent Obama is without his magical teleprompter:

[Link: www.politico.com...]

re: #9 Sharmuta

Speaking of crazy:

A surer Assad reaches out to US to aid needy Syria

I have a bad feeling 0bama will help them.

See my comments on who B. Hussein is reaching out to, while pissing off our allies.

Food bank

re: #28 Sharmuta

TCF to give back TARP funds

I hope this starts a trend. Government $ = Government rules. And some banks are smart enough to realize they don't want to play that game.

Also sounds like they didn't actually need our fucking money.

re: #27 lawhawk

Recently, I have noticed an "up-tick" with the number of reports from the usual antisemitic sources (CBC just had a report out) and Re: water...along with the obligatory smears against Israel, etc.

re: #44 Sharmuta

Greta interviewed the TCF CEO last night. He said they've had 50 quarters of positive revenue in part by loaning money to people who can pay it back. THERE'S a novel concept!

They would be one of those companies scoffed at for being too conservative.

re: #44 Sharmuta

Greta interviewed the TCF CEO last night. He said they've had 50 quarters of positive revenue in part by loaning money to people who can pay it back. THERE'S a novel concept!

Some would call it UNFAIR. (Not Me)

re: #45 joncelli

Grappa is the multi megaton ground zero of drinking.

A cartoon homage to "Obama and His Favorite Things" (no joke) is currently being aired on Nickelodeon for little kids to see. A few quotes:

"He loves shrimp and linguini ... He likes classical and hip-hop and jazz music too. ... He reads lots of books and writes wonderful speeches. ... For more about President Barack Obama, go to parents.nickjr.com."

Dear Leader...

Why do I get the feeling that the economy is headed for a Planet of the Apes crying on the beach scenario?

re: #45 joncelli

Ooog. I've had grappa. I don't have a day I can waste on recovering. And don't get me started on ouzo.

Heh.
An experience not to be missed!

Pernod is also good for that sort of thing, if one is into that sort of thing.

Put out a salt block & the deer will come to you.

re: #37 Earick

The Vegas area weirded my wife and I out. We're both lifelong east-coast denizens and this whole "Plunk a city down in the middle of the desert" thing just confused the hell out of us. Still, I think we'd take a house and 20k if offered it.

/Neither of us can deal cards but she's a quick study. ;-)

re: #49 Harry Tuttle

Here's a link to the interview Greta had with this gentleman. He says usually banks listen to their regulators, but with the money's strings became apparent, TCF wanted out. I hope other banks join this movement.

re: #9 Sharmuta

Hell, he/"they" gave 900 large to Hamas! EVERBODY now has their hand out...but, at least their fists are unclenched!

re: #32 Bloodnok

Down 317 with 20 minutes to go.

6500 is next.

/I am not reading this...

re: #36 Lee Coller

It also tells you they didn't need the money in the first place.

Many of the banks that took TARP money didn't need it in the first place. They were told to take it by the feds as a means to "destigmatize" the TARP program. Now, many are realizing that taking this money was a fool's errand, and are rushing to clear the money from their books since it does little to improve the credit markets or loosen the flow of credit to credit-worthy consumers.

re: #46 Diamond Bullet

Non-lizards are finally starting to notice how woefully incoherent Obama is without his magical teleprompter:

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Is there any technology out there which could be used to eff this teleprompter up for him?

re: #40 CyanSnowHawk

Under 6500 by days end?

re: #54 Chicken Kiev

A cartoon homage to "Obama and His Favorite Things" (no joke) is currently being aired on Nickelodeon for little kids to see. A few quotes:

"He loves shrimp and linguini ... He likes classical and hip-hop and jazz music too. ... He reads lots of books and writes wonderful speeches. ... For more about President Barack Obama, go to parents.nickjr.com."

Dear Leader...

Ah, come on. They ran the same kind of promos for Dubya.

/

re: #64 SummerSong

Well, don't hold back, tell us what you really think.

Did you all read about the cheap, tasteless gift Obama gave to Gordon Brown?

Opps sorry. Meant to add - My guess is it won't get there today.

re: #67 capitalist piglet

Did you all read about the cheap, tasteless gift Obama gave to Gordon Brown?

You can't polish a turd.

re: #54 Chicken Kiev

A cartoon homage to "Obama and His Favorite Things" (no joke) is currently being aired on Nickelodeon for little kids to see. A few quotes:

"He loves shrimp and linguini ... He likes classical and hip-hop and jazz music too. ... He reads lots of books and writes wonderful speeches. ... For more about President Barack Obama, go to parents.nickjr.com."

Dear Leader...

Good Lord. I'm glad my kids are too old and too smart for that propaganda.

re: #61 Oh no...Sand People!

This also works:

re: #40 CyanSnowHawk

Round numbers! OOOooo! Shiny!

re: #66 CyanSnowHawk

Well, don't hold back, tell us what you really think.

You blew it up! You stupid bastards!

re: #19 UFO TOFU

Has construction slowed down considerably there?

About 2 months ago, all but one of the projects (City Center) had to stop building temporarily, due to lack of funds to continue.

Here's a more detailed look at the construction situation in Las Vegas.

The most notable stop in construction was the Harmon Tower section of City Center, which was found to have had the rebar installed in an unsafe manner . . . after 26 floors of construction!

I travel to work by bus everyday, and still see plenty of construction on the strip. Besides the aforementioned City Center, there's also the Cosmopolitan and the Fontainebleau, which are still going.

The Frontier (home of a 7-year strike by casino workers!) was torn down to make way for a new development called Echelon Place (or, as we locals were already calling it, "Enchilada Plate"), but it has completely stopped, as their financing has been Baracked.

Trivia: The last time the Dow was at the levels seen today, the Hacienda had just been torn down so that construction could begin on the Mandalay Bay, and the Sands had just been torn down so that construction could begin on the Venetian.

And on November 4rth 2008, we officially entered the era of Insanity.

Muslims and Christian creationists complain...
Rome meeting snubs intelligent design, creationism

A Vatican-backed conference on evolution is under attack from people who weren't invited to participate: those espousing creationism and intelligent design.

The Discovery Institute, the main organization supporting intelligent design research, says it was shut out from presenting its views because the meeting was funded in part by the John Templeton Foundation, a major U.S. nonprofit that has criticized the intelligent design movement.
...
Muslim creationists also complained about the conference.

Oktar Babuna, a representative of a prominent Turkish creationist, Harun Yahya, was denied the right to speak at the opening session Tuesday. Participants took the microphone away from Babuna when, during a question-and-answer session, he challenged them to give proof of transitional forms of animals in Darwinian evolution.

Organizers said he hadn't formulated a question and was just stating his point of view.

Babuna said afterward that the conference was clearly undemocratic. A statement from Yahya said, "Although there are discussion parts, they want this discussion to be one-sided."

re: #68 SummerSong

Opps sorry. Meant to add - My guess is it won't get there today.

There's always tomorrow.

0bamanomics: Wait- you're telling me if I loan money to people who can prove they'll pay it back and I charge some interest, I can make a profit? That's crazy talk! I mean, if they can pay it back- why do they need a loan? You capitalists are nuts.

re: #67 capitalist piglet

Did you all read about the cheap, tasteless gift Obama gave to Gordon Brown?

I did-how absolutely pathetic. The Obamas seriously need an etiquette coach.

re: #69 NYCHardhat

You can't polish a turd.

They did last night on Mythbusters.

re: #16 Sharmuta

I was thinking it was more like "bend over" economics.

Or "BO" economics, for short.

There's a Tom Waits concert movie on the Ovation channel tonight at 9 est, for those interested, which around here should be many, I would think.

The DOW is like that Farside cartoon where the pilot asks the co-pilot: " What's a goat doing up here in the clouds?"

re: #79 livefreeor die

I did-how absolutely pathetic. The Obamas seriously need an etiquette coach.

...and an economics coach, and a military coach, and a leadership coach, and a...

-286.50

re: #67 capitalist piglet

Nope. What was it? Grooming products for dogs? (Since, after all, Brown is The Zero's poodle, eh?)

re: #63 yma o hyd

Is there any technology out there which could be used to eff this teleprompter up for him?

Temporary God powers?
~ Bruce Almighty reference.

re: #63 yma o hyd

Is there any technology out there which could be used to eff this teleprompter up for him?

I'm thinking the addition of an Anchorman-style "And I'm Barack Obama. Go F*** yourself, America" line at the end of one of his teleprompt-o-speeches would do it.

I cannot believe this is happening. This is going to be a four year nightmare.

re: #74 gmsc

Of course, the last time the Dow was at this level, we were on the way up.

re: #54 Chicken Kiev

A cartoon homage to "Obama and His Favorite Things" (no joke) is currently being aired on Nickelodeon for little kids to see. A few quotes:

"He loves shrimp and linguini ... He likes classical and hip-hop and jazz music too. ... He reads lots of books and writes wonderful speeches. ... For more about President Barack Obama, go to parents.nickjr.com."

Dear Leader...

When does he set up the youth organization, Obama Youth, to get kids to rat out on their parents for things like turning up the thermostat (or down in the summer), using regular light bulbs, not reading the little blue book, etc.?

What online trading platform do the trader's here use?

I'm on Track Data's, "My Track". I like it.

re: #86 Killgore Trout

-286.50

Dead lion bounce.

re: #76 Killgore Trout

Oktar Babuna
Is he the one Han Solo shoots under the table?

re: #90 NYCHardhat

I'm guessing probably 2-3 years more of this.

re: #67 capitalist piglet

Did you all read about the cheap, tasteless gift Obama gave to Gordon Brown?

the O's are such an embarrassment.
no class.
like 'grifters'
crude, ghastly.
they should not be in the white house.

re: #86 Killgore Trout

-286.50

Bargain hunters couldn't wait until tomorrow?

re: #96 Peacekeeper

Oktar Babuna
Is he the one Han Solo shoots under the table?

No, that's Greedo that he fried.

re: #96 Peacekeeper

Nah, that was Greedo. I think Oktar Babuna was a friend of Bobba Fet.

re: #76 Killgore Trout

Participants took the microphone away from Babuna when, during a question-and-answer session, he challenged them to give proof of transitional forms of animals in Darwinian evolution.

None so blind as those who refuse to see.

re: #67 capitalist piglet

Did you all read about the cheap, tasteless gift Obama gave to Gordon Brown?

Yep - we've been tsk-tsk-ing about it, but its nice to do it again.
Classless, clueless people, the 0s.

Whew.

I finally took the plunge and ordered a refurbished iPhone for $99 from AT&T. I've been worrying that my old Treo 650 was showing some signs of decay - had it since early 2006 - and anyway I used both an iMac, an iBook and an iPod, so it seemed only natural that the other major e-device I own should work together with all of them.

So I synced up my Treo with the iMac for the last time, and will be retiring it to backup status whenever the new toy arrives.

Anyone have helpful hints, praise or horror stories about the iPhone that I should know about?

re: #97 Killgore Trout

I'm guessing probably 2-3 years more of this.

I agree, but any policies the Obama administration put in place could make it worse than it should be.

re: #20 tripletdad

Reading the financial sites, the stock slide's being blamed on everything but the 0bama Economic Annihilation plan.

In the past five minutes I've seen:

Stocks slide amid investors fears about banks

Stocks plunge on new concerns about GM

So nice of the media to read the minds of investors and tell us why things are tanking. It couldn't be that capitalists don't like socialism.

re: #101 Killgore Trout

That's "Fett"! Good gravy, man.

re: #102 Sharmuta

There's video of him getting thrown out on livleak somewhere. I watched it this morning but I can't find it now.

re: #86 Killgore Trout

-286.50

After the Crash of 1929, the market didn't bottom out until mid 1932. Just sayin'

re: #103 yma o hyd

Ok. So what was it? (a rawhide chew toy?)

re: #87 J.S.

Nope. What was it? Grooming products for dogs? (Since, after all, Brown is The Zero's poodle, eh?)

A one-hundred dollar set of DVDs.

Brown's gift to Obama:

Mr Brown’s gifts included an ornamental desk pen holder made from the oak timbers of Victorian anti-slaver HMS Gannet, once named HMS President.

re: #74 gmsc

Thanks for the info. I love going to Las Vegas for the concerts, so many great venues.

I think this is creepy

How can you tell when 0bama is lying?
His lips are moving.

How can you tell when 0bama stops speaking?
The Dow begins moving upward.

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Let me know if you find it- it sounds entertaining.

re: #113 midwestgak

I think this is creepy

He is a narcissistic scumbag.

re: #114 gmsc

How can you tell when 0bama stops speaking?

The teleprompter stops.

re: #89 Diamond Bullet

I'm thinking the addition of an Anchorman-style "And I'm Barack Obama. Go F*** yourself, America" line at the end of one of his teleprompt-o-speeches would do it.

Wouldn't that be just brilliant!
Only needs to be done a couple of times - on prime-time TV.
Aahh ...

re: #92 Kosh's Shadow

When does he set up the youth organization, Obama Youth, to get kids to rat out on their parents for things like turning up the thermostat (or down in the summer), using regular light bulbs, not reading the little blue book, etc.?

I've heard of cases already where kids are asked to tell if their parents smoke or have guns in the house.

re: #107 Sharmuta

That's "Fett"! Good gravy, man.

Gravy? I thought Fett was cheese.

re: #111 capitalist piglet

wow. and those were blank (as in Zero, nada, nothing on them) DVDs?

re: #103 yma o hyd

Yep - we've been tsk-tsk-ing about it, but its nice to do it again.
Classless, clueless people, the 0s.

I missed it- what was it?

re: #103 yma o hyd

Yep - we've been tsk-tsk-ing about it, but its nice to do it again.
Classless, clueless people, the 0s.

Could anyone even imagine this discussion with First Lady Laura Bush?
Michelle be wife of Obama, but she's no First Lady.

re: #109 Leonidas Hoplite

After the Crash of 1929, the market didn't bottom out until mid 1932. Just sayin'

One of the reasons I think we'll get to 2012 before we start recovering. The question remains, will the 2010s be a recovered or recovering decade? That depends on how the recession and crash are treated by the administration in office.

re: #89 Diamond Bullet

I'm thinking the addition of an Anchorman-style "And I'm Barack Obama. Go F*** yourself, America" line at the end of one of his teleprompt-o-speeches would do it.

"I'm Barack 0bama?"

re: #115 Sharmuta

It wasn't really that good. He just rambled at the mic for 3 or 4 minutes until someone unplugged him and too the mic. He kept rambling for another minute of two about transitional fossils and even the 'only a theory" thing until they escorted him out.

re: #113 midwestgak

I think this is creepy

It's a take on this image of Narcissus. I think it's an accurate depiction of 0bama.

re: #113 midwestgak

I think this is creepy

it's creepy because it perfectly depicts who he is.

We ain't got enough market left to keep going down for three more years. Time to pull the reserve chute.

or garbage chute.

re: #127 Sharmuta

It's a take on this image of Narcissus. I think it's an accurate depiction of 0bama.

re: #116 NYCHardhat

He is a narcissistic scumbag.

Oh wow, I wasn't off at all.

re: #100 Honorary Yooper

No, that's Greedo that he fried.

And remember, Han shot first! (well, originally).

re: #111 capitalist piglet

Not to worry, Obama will make up for it at Christmas by sending Brown the "Old Spice" Deluxe Gift Set.

re: #129 Peacekeeper

We ain't got enough market left to keep going down for three more years. Time to pull the reserve chute.

Which reserve chute? The one with a big hole in it, or the one we lost while deploying it?

re: #126 Killgore Trout

He should spend some time at LGF to see how a real creationist meltdown should be.

'we can't eat as much as we want'

maybe will come true

re: #134 Honorary Yooper

Which reserve chute? The one with a big hole in it, or the one we lost while deploying it?

The one packed in the anvil shape.

re: #132 MrSilverDragon

And remember, Han shot first! (well, originally).

Then he didn't, then he did again.

re: #125 gmsc

"I'm Barack 0bama?"

And you're not.

re: #136 Ojoe

'we can't eat as much as we want'

maybe will come true

Ready for selling apples?

Yesterday I got the documentary Abel Raises Cain from Netflix. I haven't had a chance to watch all of it yet, but what I've seen has been very funny and entertaining. It's also an insightful look at how easily the media can be fooled.

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

re: #124 Honorary Yooper

One of the reasons I think we'll get to 2012 before we start recovering. The question remains, will the 2010s be a recovered or recovering decade? That depends on how the recession and crash are treated by the administration in office.

Right, and blowing out the deficit and raising taxes are not the way to go.

re: #139 Kosh's Shadow

And you're not.

Because... "I won"

re: #132 MrSilverDragon

And remember, Han shot first! (well, originally).

Well, Greedo WAS pretty clearly promising to kill him. So "Han shot first" kind of in the sense that the IAF "struck first" in 1967.

re: #98 nyc redneck

the O's are such an embarrassment.
no class.
like 'grifters'
crude, ghastly.
they should not be in the white house.

They make the Clintons look like cultured aristocracy.

re: #135 Sharmuta

He should spend some time at LGF to see how a real creationist meltdown should be.

I don't know. Melting down at a Vatican conference with the cameras rolling is pretty spectacular.

re: #54 Chicken Kiev

I have seen that a few times now. When it comes on my three year old granddaughter wonders why I change the channel.

re: #140 Honorary Yooper

They are pretty mushy by now.

re: #130 Peacekeeper

or garbage chute.

And Obama is giving it to all of us up the ___ chute.

re: #5 joncelli

I would like to be on record as condemning this week to death and declaring it Friday at 1700 hours. So start drinking.

First reasonable thing I have heard all day.

re: #133 Occasional Reader

Not to worry, Obama will make up for it at Christmas by sending Brown the "Old Spice" Deluxe Gift Set.

A "Cheeses of the 50 States" sampler.

re: #152 Peacekeeper

A "Cheeses of the 50 States" sampler.

57 states.

re: #118 yma o hyd

Wouldn't that be just brilliant!
Only needs to be done a couple of times - on prime-time TV.
Aahh ...

I'm not joking when i say that Obama will be the first President to drop an F-bomb on live TV.

re: #152 Peacekeeper

A "Cheeses of the 50 57 States" sampler.

re: #110 J.S.

Ok. So what was it? (a rawhide chew toy?)

Heh.
PB0 gave Gord a DVD set of classic American Films ... while Gord agve him a pen holder made from the tombers of one of the original slave-busting Royal navy vessels.
And the full set of a Winsotn Churchill Biography.
Mrs Brown gave the girls sets of TopShop dresses and necklaces, and books by British writerers whicha re not yet published in the USA.
WAB called the White House Gift shop and gave her two plastic models of the presidential helicopter for her boys ...

Oh - and Gord is blind in one eye, since a sports injury in his youth, and can't see very well on the other.
So a DVD set of movies is a very handy gift for him, to be sure ...

re: #152 Peacekeeper

A "Cheeses of the 50 States" sampler.

You mean 57?

re: #154 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm not joking when i say that Obama will be the first President to drop an F-bomb on live TV.

That's another revenue plan I think. FCC fines should be able to fund a couple of things, right?

Office birthday party - be back after I get my 4 o'clock sugar fix.

re: #157 Silhouette

You mean 57?

We call those "Canada"

So T.O. is gone. 'Bout time.

re: #133 Occasional Reader

Not to worry, Obama will make up for it at Christmas by sending Brown the "Old Spice" Deluxe Gift Set.

His gift reminded me of the wrapped scented candle I keep in the pantry during the holidays...just in case.

Dow close: 6,594.60
-281.24 (-4.09%)

re: #67 capitalist piglet

Did you all read about the cheap, tasteless gift Obama gave to Gordon Brown?

You mean besides the cheap, last minute ones the WAB gave to his boys?

re: #156 yma o hyd

(you have to be embarrassed for Obama...how pathetic...I hope The Zero can find some way to make it up to Gordon Brown..)

re: #161 Ward Cleaver

So T.O. is gone. 'Bout time.

How long before Detroit signs him?

re: #163 gmsc

Wheee

re: #161 Ward Cleaver

So T.O. is gone. 'Bout time.

Did he cry?

re: #163 gmsc

Dow close: 6,594.60
-281.24 (-4.09%)

PAY NO ATTENTION TO MEANINGLESS FLUCTUATIONS!

re: #159 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Office birthday party - be back after I get my 4 o'clock sugar fix.

Here too - it's Mine!

(shameless plug)

re: #133 Occasional Reader

Not to worry, Obama will make up for it at Christmas by sending Brown the "Old Spice" Deluxe Gift Set.

Here's a gift card. Go out and get something YOU want.

re: #154 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm not joking when i say that Obama will be the first President to drop an F-bomb on live TV.

It'd have to be in the teleprompter though. Maybe:

"We're pleased to have the new ambassador from the People's Republic of China, the Honorable Fu Key, with us tonight."

re: #169 Peacekeeper

PAY NO ATTENTION TO MEANINGLESS FLUCTUATIONS!

FLUCTUATIONS?
FLUCTUATIONS?

FLUC U BLITISH!

re: #166 CyanSnowHawk

How long before Detroit signs him?

I'm thinking the Raiders..perfect fit

re: #167 Ojoe

Wheee

Make way, everybody! Ojoe has to go wee!

re: #163 gmsc

Dow close: 6,594.60
-281.24 (-4.09%)

I don't want people's life savings to go up in smoke, but this has to happen so this POS doesn't destroy everything.

re: #154 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm not joking when i say that Obama will be the first President to drop an F-bomb on live TV.

Thing is - on all he repeats there will be a bleep at that point.

Now a lot of fun can be had with that!
I can already imagine the youtube clips ...

DJI at the close: 6594.44 -281.40

When was the last time the Dow closed at this level?

re: #169 Peacekeeper

PAY NO ATTENTION TO MEANINGLESS FLUCTUATIONS!

You said that at least twice. Why not?

Obama's safety net: the TelePrompter

“It’s just something presidents haven’t done,” said Martha Joynt Kumar, a presidential historian who has held court in the White House since December 1975. “It’s jarring to the eye. In a way, it stands in the middle between the audience and the president because his eye is on the teleprompter.”

re: #169 Peacekeeper

PAY NO ATTENTION TO MEANINGLESS FLUCTUATIONS!

Gyrations, bobs, ups-and-downs...just a type of tracking poll, you understand.

re: #174 HoosierHoops

I'm thinking the Raiders..perfect fit

Can that big of an ego get that close to Al Davis without messing with the tides?

Before:

Dow tops 14,000, hits record
Wall Street starts off fourth quarter with a bang, sending the blue-chip leader to all-time closing and intraday highs.
By Alexandra Twin, CNNMoney.com senior writer
October 1 2007: 5:56 PM EDT

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks rallied Monday, with the Dow closing at an all-time high on bets that the big banks are starting to put the worst behind them - and on hopes that the Federal Reserve will continue cutting interest rates.

The Dow Jones industrial average (Charts) added nearly 192 points to end at an all-time high of 14,087.55. Earlier in the session, the Dow had hit 14,115.51, a new record intraday high. The previous intraday high was 14,021.95 from July 19.

re: #67 capitalist piglet

Did you all read about the cheap, tasteless gift Obama gave to Gordon Brown?

Beatings and abuse made Barack Obama’s grandfather loathe the British

The alleged torture was said to have left Mr Onyango permanently scarred, and bitterly antiBritish. “That was the time we realised that the British were actually not friends but, instead, enemies,” Mrs Onyango said.

Mr Obama refers to his grandfather’s imprisonment in his best-selling memoir, Dreams from My Father.

Well as we continue to get barracked, you might want to save this link.

Depression Cooking

93 year old cook and great grandmother, Clara, recounts her childhood during the Great Depression as she prepares meals from the era. Learn how to make simple yet delicious dishes while listening to stories from the Great Depression.

re: #178 neocon hippie

DJI at the close: 6594.44 -281.40

When was the last time the Dow closed at this level?

Princess Diana was alive.

re: #175 gmsc

The market is pissy, yes.

re: #111 capitalist piglet

It was a left-over from one of His Wednesday soirees.

re: #163 gmsc

Dow close: 6,594.60
-281.24 (-4.09%)

IIRC - the DOWn has now lost 50% since the election, yes?

re: #149 buzzsawmonkey

[penultimate verse]

So I'll see him in ought-twelve
when the dollar's shot to hell
and we're all quite double-drilled, and out of dough
He'll be running, yes, on "hope"
giving spiels to liberal dopes
but like hell! No second term for Barry O

re: #184 faraway

I'm beginning to think Obama needs therapy.

re: #163 gmsc

Dow close: 6,594.60
-281.24 (-4.09%)

What is the profit to earnings ratio?

re: #161 Ward Cleaver

So T.O. is gone. 'Bout time.

sadly I agree...big numbers, big mouth, big diversion...c'ya...I love Miles Austin tho

in 18 months the stock market drops to less than half.

re: #189 yma o hyd

Not quite. IIRC the Dow was at approx. 9500 on 11/4/08.

re: #46 Diamond Bullet

Non-lizards are finally starting to notice how woefully incoherent Obama is without his magical teleprompter:

[Link: www.politico.com...]

That photo at your link that shows Obama encased by the teleprompter is like the Phantom Zone in the Superman movie where the villains were floating through space in a teleprompter-looking prison. If only.

re: #178 neocon hippie

DJI at the close: 6594.44 -281.40

When was the last time the Dow closed at this level?

The last time the Dow closed in the 6,500s, it was January 8, 1997.

As I mentioned in the last thread, in post #336:

Back then, Yassir Arafat was still alive, and Bill Clinton was getting ready to be sworn in as president for his second term.

Here in Las Vegas, the Hacienda had just been imploded, and construction was beginning on the same lot to build the Mandalay Bay. The Sands had also been imploded so that construction could begin on the Venetian.

People were still talking about JonBenét Ramsey, who had just been killed in her parents' basement on the day after Christmas '96.

In business, two of the most common topics were Apple's purchase of NeXT, and Alan Greenspan's speech from just over a month before in which he claimed the market unduly escalated asset values due to "irrational exuberence".

re: #189 yma o hyd

IIRC - the DOWn has now lost 50% since the election, yes?

Not quite. Dow closed at 9625.28 on Nov. 4th, 2008.

re: #184 faraway

ANything on His cousin's followers massacring 500 people after losing the election in Kenya?

re: #191 capitalist piglet

I'm beginning to think Obama needs therapy.

There's no cure for narcissism. The narcissist may improve for awhile, but it's temporary. The ego trumps all.

re: #184 faraway

Uh, Granpa-pa Mau-Mau, Granpa-pa Mau-Mau...

re: #69 NYCHardhat

You can't polish a turd.

Actually, the "Mythbusters" TV show recently proved that you can, in fact, polish a turd.

Apparently lion dung will take a particularly nice gloss.

They re-ran that segment this week...

The moonbats are getting cranked up in Boulder:

Students Use 'Free Speech Cage' Ahead of Churchill, Ayers Event

Yeah, they should be in a cage.

re: #189 yma o hyd

IIRC - the DOWn has now lost 50% since the election, yes?

The Dow has dropped 29.24% since Nov. 4, 2008.

re: #197 gmsc

As I mentioned in the last thread, in post #336:

Back then, Yassir Arafat was still alive, and Bill Clinton was getting ready to be sworn in as president for his second term.

"... and a young Joe Piscopo was teaching America how to laugh again."

/okay, wrong decade, but it's always a good time for a Homer Simpson quote

re: #191 capitalist piglet

I'm beginning to think Obama needs therapy.

"I'm not talking once a week, $80 an hour therapy. You need to go to Vienna. You need a team."
/Seinfeld, on George Costanza

re: #197 gmsc

A decade's worth of progress blown in a few months time. It will take a decade or more to recover from this.

re: #165 J.S.

(you have to be embarrassed for Obama...how pathetic...I hope The Zero can find some way to make it up to Gordon Brown..)

He can't.
I don't think Gord will come for another visit. Its too close to the next election here, Gorn cannot hang on til next year.
We think he'll have to call the election this summer.
The next British Prime Minister will be Dave Cameron, leader of the Tory Party.
And as young as this crop of new Tories is - they are sharp, theya re experienced, they know what its all about. They have learned their trade by being in opposition to a LLL government, just like the one PB0 is trying to establish.
They're Maggie's children ...

DOW down 280.

BRB I need to go drop a Barack.

Here in Las Vegas, the Hacienda had just been imploded, and construction was beginning on the same lot to build the Mandalay Bay

From Wiki article, "Stock market crash". For reference.

Black Tuesday was a day of chaos. Forced to liquidate their stocks because of margin calls, overextended investors flooded the exchange with sell orders. The glamour stocks of the age saw their values plummet. Across the two days, the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 23%.
By the end of the week of November 11, the index stood at 228, a cumulative drop of 40 percent from the September high. The markets rallied in succeeding months but it would be a false recovery that led unsuspecting investors into the worst economic crisis of modern times. The Dow Jones Industrial Average would lose 89% of its value before finally bottoming out in July 1932.

re: #111 capitalist piglet

You just can't make this stuff up.

Hmmm...

Senate leader offers plan for `green' power grid

For our science lizards, does this technology exist? Is it in development? Is it even workable?

Or...final question...is Harry Reid's head still up his ass?

re: #152 Peacekeeper

A "Cheeses of the 50 States" sampler.

That'd be Wisconsin this and Wisconsin that with maybe a smattering from somewhere else (Vermont?).

re: #185 Bubblehead II

Well as we continue to get barracked, you might want to save this link.

Depression Cooking

93 year old cook and great grandmother, Clara, recounts her childhood during the Great Depression as she prepares meals from the era. Learn how to make simple yet delicious dishes while listening to stories from the Great Depression.

I'll bet they include okra. During the depression, people even ground okra seeds to make a flour. There's an old saying that goes, "I ate so much okra, I slid out of bed."

re: #200 Sharmuta

There's no cure for narcissism. The narcissist may improve for awhile, but it's temporary. The ego trumps all.

Some "Daddy" issues happening there as well, methinks.

re: #212 Ojoe

From Wiki article, "Stock market crash". For reference.

It doesn't feel like a crash. More like a slow motion crash test dummies video.

re: #211 albusteve

Here in Las Vegas, the Hacienda had just been imploded, and construction was beginning on the same lot to build the Mandalay Bay

what a joint...the coolest back yard ever, and a House of Blues in the basement...doubt I'll ever see that place again...yup, those were the days

re: #211 albusteve

Here in Las Vegas, the Hacienda had just been imploded, and construction was beginning on the same lot to build the Mandalay Bay

Isn't that what I wrote?!?

re: #195 neocon hippie

Not quite. IIRC the Dow was at approx. 9500 on 11/4/08.

Thanks - its still a huge drop, all in all.
Slow, steady bleeds are pretty dangerous ...

re: #203 Ceemack

Actually, the "Mythbusters" TV show recently proved that you can, in fact, polish a turd.

Apparently lion dung will take a particularly nice gloss.

They re-ran that segment this week...

I missed that one. Did they blow up the polished turd with the obligatory massive explosion?

re: #217 Ward Cleaver

I'll bet they include okra. During the depression, people even ground okra seeds to make a flour. There's an old saying that goes, "I ate so much okra, I slid out of bed."

Do-dah.

re: #216 Honorary Yooper

That'd be Wisconsin this and Wisconsin that with maybe a smattering from somewhere else (Vermont?).

I love you.

/originalcheesehead

re: #214 buzzsawmonkey

Buzzsaw reaches back for a classic.
Tell me you didn't come up with that in Kindergarten.

re: #215 subsailor68

Yes it is technically possible.

re: #185 Bubblehead II

Well as we continue to get barracked, you might want to save this link.

Depression Cooking

93 year old cook and great grandmother, Clara, recounts her childhood during the Great Depression as she prepares meals from the era. Learn how to make simple yet delicious dishes while listening to stories from the Great Depression.

When we were poor newlyweds, I found some Depression-era recipes and tried them. The lima bean casserole did not go over well.

Say what you will about Sarah Palin not being qualified to be president, but she would never have treated our country in this manner.

re: #205 gmsc

The Dow has dropped 29.24% since Nov. 4, 2008.

Thanks - it just feels so much worse than the bare numbers ...

The DU idiots are really pissed off about the teleprompter story. The funny thing is, in that discussion someone pointed out that the NYT aslo had a story about it. Damn right wing media!

re: #229 tappin52

She would have said only positive encouraging things.

re: #229 tappin52

Say what you will about Sarah Palin not being qualified to be president, but she would never have treated our country in this manner.

"Mr. 0bama, I know Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin is a friend of mine. Let me just say this: You, sir, are no Sarah Palin!"

re: #227 Ojoe

Yes it is technically possible.

If it is, I'm good. But at this point, is it financially viable? I mean, ethanol would power cars, but the cost (and loss of corn crops for food) made it pretty much a train wreck?

re: #180 Ben Hur

Obama's safety net: the TelePrompter

So even the phony "bloggers" at Politico are starting to sour on The One?

re: #69 NYCHardhat

You can't polish a turd.

Actually MythBusters Proved that you CAN in fact polish a turd Mythbusters Episode 113

re: #215 subsailor68

Hmmm...

Senate leader offers plan for `green' power grid

For our science lizards, does this technology exist? Is it in development? Is it even workable?

Or...final question...is Harry Reid's head still up his ass?

I swear, everyone in DC is living in a "Fairy Tale Land".

/where's my unicorn?

re: #44 Sharmuta

Greta interviewed the TCF CEO last night. He said they've had 50 quarters of positive revenue in part by loaning money to people who can pay it back. THERE'S a novel concept!

How did they avoid getting sued by ACORN and Obama-types for "racism in lending" when they did this?

re: #221 gmsc

Isn't that what I wrote?!?

yes it was...bad fu

Just logged in,

There is a thin line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line.

This is good news for those of us who have posted things in haste, now we have an excuse.

re: #235 buzzsawmonkey

No, it just came to me as I read the post.

I just get this impression of a long line of teachers saying to you through the years, "Those aren't the lyrics we taught you Mr. Monkey."

New York State cheese.

re: #219 Sharmuta

It doesn't feel like a crash. More like a slow motion crash test dummies video.

Nice visual description. Too bad it's true.

re: #243 Occasional Reader

New York State cheese.

Communist shit.

re: #238 jorline

I swear, everyone in DC is living in a "Fairy Tale Land".

That's really more the Dupont Circle neighborhood.

re: #203 Ceemack

Actually, the "Mythbusters" TV show recently proved that you can, in fact, polish a turd.

Apparently lion dung will take a particularly nice gloss.

They re-ran that segment this week...

Beat me to it...

re: #238 jorline

I swear, everyone in DC is living in a "Fairy Tale Land".

Especially Barney Frank. Wait, that's tail, not tale...

re: #230 yma o hyd

Thanks - it just feels so much worse than the bare numbers ...

It's even worse if you compare it to the peak of about 14,000 rather than the 9600 it was on election day.

re: #234 subsailor68

Cheap oil at the moment takes a big chunk out of the economics of photvoltaics and wind electricity generating.

We will get to this eventually because the sun is the ultimate big reliable power source.

It looks as if humans are not prudent to make the switch without unnecessary agony however.

BBL

Filling out job application today. Safeway, Fred Myer, Trader Joe's, Home Depot, and a few plant nurseries. I randomly selected half to include my Masters degree, the other half excluded. It'll be interesting to see which pile gets more call backs.

re: #228 doppelganglander

Before she passed away, my mother gave all of her daughters (all 7) a Depression Era Cookbook. Guess I should pull it out of the cupboard.

re: #238 jorline

I swear, everyone in DC is living in a "Fairy Tale Land".

/where's my unicorn?

LOL! Love this rule (from the Fairy Tale Land site):

By ordinance of the City of Sacramento, adults are not permitted in Fairytale Town if not in the company of a child or on official business.

Well isn't that just a giant Duh! What, no "Pedophile Only" entrance?

re: #237 fish

Actually MythBusters Proved that you CAN in fact polish a turd Mythbusters Episode 113

Yep; however, you can polish a turd, but it still remains, a turd.

re: #230 yma o hyd

Thanks - it just feels so much worse than the bare numbers ...

You're welcome.

Still, almost a 1/3 drop in the stock market isn't good.

October 5, 2007: The Dow closes at an all-time closing high of 14066.01.

From there we've lost 52.54%!

re: #248 fish

Beat me to it...

Ahem!
re: #80 CyanSnowHawk

re: #119 Silhouette

I've heard of cases already where kids are asked to tell if their parents smoke or have guns in the house.

I was getting asked those questions in elementary school when Reagen was president. I knew what to tell those commie busy-bodies even back then when I was a dumb kid.

re: #243 Occasional Reader

New York State cheese.

There's a good Chuck E. Cheese in Union, NJ.

re: #251 Ojoe

Cheap oil at the moment takes a big chunk out of the economics of photvoltaics and wind electricity generating.

We will get to this eventually because the sun is the ultimate big reliable power source.

It looks as if humans are not prudent to make the switch without unnecessary agony however.

BBL

Got it. Thanks!

Say what you will about Bush's approval numbers towards the end of his term- they outperformed the DOW and NASDAQ under the 0bama administration...

How come it's suddently 'not the economy, stupid'?