The Media’s Coffin Politics

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Media • Sat Mar 7, 2009 at 1:29 pm PST • Views: 355

At City Journal, Paul Beston has a piece on the history of the now-lifted ban on media coverage of slain soldiers’ coffins: The Media’s Coffin Politics.

In force since the outset of the Gulf War in 1991, the ban was triggered by an incident in the aftermath of the invasion of Panama ordered by President George H. W. Bush in December 1989. According to the New York Times’s Elisabeth Bumiller:

In 1989, the television networks showed split-screen images of Mr. Bush sparring and joking with reporters on one side and a military honor guard unloading coffins from a military action that he had ordered in Panama on the other.

Mr. Bush, a World War II veteran, was caught unaware and subsequently asked the networks to warn the White House when they planned to use split screens. The networks declined.

At the next opportunity, in February 1991 during the Persian Gulf war, the Pentagon banned photos of returning coffins.

Writing in the American Journalism Review, Jamie McIntyre, a former CNN senior Pentagon correspondent, makes clear that the president was unaware that while he was conducting his press conference, “the first casualties of the assault were arriving at Dover, and several television networks (ABC, CBS and CNN) had switched to a split-screen image, juxtaposing the jocular president against the grim reality of the invasion he ordered.” McIntyre then writes ruefully: “It was the beginning of the end not just of live coverage, but of any photography or media coverage of war dead returning to the United States.”

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1 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:30:35pm

MSM = Enemy of America

2 Shanimal1918  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:32:24pm

The moonbat media still doesn't understand that freedom isn't free.

3 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:32:46pm
Mr. Bush, a World War II veteran, was caught unaware and subsequently asked the networks to warn the White House when they planned to use split screens. The networks declined.

I wonder if they'd give the 0bama White House such a courtesy.

4 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:33:19pm

re: #2 Shanimal1918

The moonbat media still doesn't understand that freedom isn't free.

I doubt if they value freedom the way we do.

5 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:34:02pm

re: #3 Sharmuta

I wonder if they'd give the 0bama White House such a courtesy.

I don't.

Past behavior indicates they would be more than happy to accomodate any 0bama request.

6 phoenixgirl  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:34:40pm

re: #5 pink freud

I don't.

Past behavior indicates they would be more than happy to accomodate any 0bama request.

with tingles up and down their legs

7 Aviator  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:34:41pm

re: #3 Sharmuta

I wonder if they'd give the 0bama White House such a courtesy.

I'm pretty sure they would and ask if he would like a tongue bath to go with it.

8 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:35:10pm

re: #6 phoenixgirl

Olbergasm.

9 Devil's Advocate  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:35:11pm

Now they realize Obama is a Marxist!

10 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:35:31pm

What are the family's rights in all of this. If it was my child, I sure as hell wouldn't want the msm photographing the return of my child in a coffin so they could use it to score political points.

It's completely classless and downright shameful for the media to have such a morbid fascination with our troops when they've paid the ultimate price. They don't show such interest when they're alive.

11 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:36:38pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

It's completely classless and downright shameful for the media to have such a morbid fascination with our troops when they've paid the ultimate price. They don't show such interest when they're alive.

Worth repeating.

12 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:37:13pm

re: #7 Aviator

ew. just ew.

13 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:38:19pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

They only take an interest when they can be shown as victims.

14 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:38:28pm

Our leftist media wants to turn our returning military dead into some kind of macabre show in order to further their anti-war stance.

These are the same people who refused to show people jumping out of buildings or those already dead on the ground after 9/11 but for a very different reason.

15 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:38:37pm

Oddly enough,

I can't recall split screens of World Trade Center attack victims and Clinton playing Saxophone in February 1993.

Split screens of Bill Clinton & Al Qaeda attacks on US Embassies in Africa?

Nor split screens of Bill Clinton & Al Gore partying while the USS Cole attacks by Al Qaeda...

We were attacked in acts of war 8 times at least during 1993-2000, but I can't recall who was our partying president!

16 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:39:58pm

But of course the government won't let us pay our taxes in one lump sum because they know it would be too much of a shock.

17 Muadib  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:42:15pm

re: #9 Devil's Advocate

He sets them up and slaps them down in a very good way.
Bravo to HowTheWorldWorks.

18 opnion  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:42:37pm

The purpose of the MSM is not to accord respect to our fallen heros.
They insist that it is so people understand the price of war.
Actually they want to portray them as victims to further a political agenda.

19 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:42:38pm

i despise the msm.

their motivation here is so vile.
they are perfectly at ease causing pain and suffering to our citizens.
relatives of the fallen .
undermining moral to weaken our country.

20 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:43:42pm

O self appointed false arbiters of good and evil, you media types

There is great honor and tragedy in some things

and you can only see the tragedy

so blind you are

you would have run

this photo

alongside Lincoln's speech at Gettysburg

and you would not have diminished either.

21 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:44:24pm

re: #1 pink freud

MSM = Enemy of America

pink freud -

Bush 41 "Got It" That is all.

-S-

22 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:46:42pm

re: #21 Dr. Shalit

pink freud -

Bush 41 "Got It" That is all.

-S-

So did 43.

23 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:47:26pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

It is vile to score political points upon a tragic and honorable thing

24 jemima  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:48:03pm

Those who already know the media is conducting a campaign against...well, us/patriotic Americans, are not shocked by this vile behavior. Those who want to see the destruction of America as we've known it (until 44) will only revel and gloat at the loss of life--won't specify whether the second group is American, Muslim or European.

It's a shame but there's absolutely nothing we can do to change this. We forfeited our position in the media decades ago.

25 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:48:46pm

re: #20 Ojoe

Ojoe -

Big Difference - during the Civil War - uncooperative journalists were subject to Prison without Habeus Corpus if they took the Enemy Side. Not so today.

-S-

26 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:49:54pm

re: #24 jemima

You can change it:

Don't watch them,

Don't listen to them,

Don't buy them in print,

Don't go to their movies,

and they will die economically.

27 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:50:35pm

re: #25 Dr. Shalit

Yes. And the war was declared. We are suffering because of half measures.

28 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:50:42pm

re: #24 jemima


It's a shame but there's absolutely nothing we can do to change this. We forfeited our position in the media decades ago.

Not.
One.
Red.
Cent.

29 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:51:41pm

BBL

30 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:51:44pm

re: #26 Ojoe

You can change it:

Don't watch them,

Don't listen to them,

Don't buy them in print,

Don't go to their movies,

and they will die economically.

Blanket boycott.

31 MarineMomSue  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:52:08pm

re: #26 Ojoe

You can change it:

Don't watch them, (I Don't)

Don't listen to them, (I Don't)

Don't buy them in print, (I Don't)

Don't go to their movies, (I Don't)

and they will die economically.

(I HOPE)

32 jemima  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:53:10pm

re: #26 Ojoe

Sorry, Ojoe. There are not of us who are consciously aware this is happening to make such am extensive boycott work. 44 will prop any company up with the stimulus package.

33 swamprat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:54:00pm

They did not care about the war dead, in my opinion, they never did. They wanted to gouge Bush in the eye. Now that we have ascended up to the Obama Era, we will have no great, fan-fared, bandying about of the war dead. This will be touted as being due to "respect", but the truth is that Bush is gone now, so there is no great need.

34 Zimriel  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:54:54pm

I didn't even know about the Panama splitscreen. I was too busy cheering the success of the invasion (and Ceaucescu's execution).

The Left and its "MSM" media fingerpuppets are an enemy to American national sovereignty. But I'm not even concerned about that here. What I find disgusting is the Left's cynicism.

The transnational Left - all the usual universalist churches, the MSM, the universities, Amnesty International, you name it - spent the whole of the 1980s telling us what a hypocritical bastard Reagan was for coddling banana-republic dictators and fascists like Pinochet, Saddam, and Pineapple Face Noriega. People like me took their moral claims at face value.

1989 comes around, new President, the Cold War was won - time to clean house, right? First to go can be Pineapple Face. Hooray! - Well, not to the international Left; suddenly it's bad to get rid of a dictator.

Again, I didn't know they pulled that shit in 1989. I do recall them pulling shit like it in the first Gulf War. That when I found out that liberal little me was a "neo con", whatever that meant.

35 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:57:15pm

re: #34 Zimriel

Lizard.

36 UnfrozenCaveman  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:04:57pm

Should I ever be KIA, I NEVER want the media anywhere near my remains. Should any video or photos be taken, I hope my next of kin sue the bejesus out of the outlet.

37 tommygum  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:10:26pm

re: #25 Dr. Shalit

Ojoe -

Big Difference - during the Civil War - uncooperative journalists were subject to Prison without Habeus Corpus if they took the Enemy Side. Not so today.

-S-

There's the pity.

38 screaming_eagle  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:20:47pm

I wish people would understand this, but the general masses won't but in the effort to learn. Ironic that I was talking last night about where the real ban came from. They mislead when they say Bush. W only reminded and enforced the ban. And the MSM doesn't explain why the ban came about.

39 gatorbait  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:24:50pm

There are three areas of endeavor in the conduct of war: armed combat, diplomacy, and propaganda. We won WWII by combat. We lost Vietnam due to propaganda. We won the Cold War by diplomacy. Bush was not effective in managing the propaganda. Obama and associates are doing well with propaganda, so far. Trying to paint political opponents as Rush Limbaugh lookalikes is part of the game. Pictures of flag draped coffins are clearly a powerful antiwar message. It is incumbent upon those who wish to defeat real enemies of America to drive that point home, HARD!

40 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:25:48pm

re: #22 pink freud

pink freud -

For the Record - So Did Bill Clinton - retrospective re-writes notwithstanding.

-S-

41 Scrub  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:29:08pm

I was serving in the US Army in Germany when the Panama invasion happened and I didn't get a change to see the split-screen incident myself but I heard about it. AFN, Stars and Stripes, and I the Army Times were not insulating us from the facts about the invasion. I think it was in the Army Times where I read about one of our soldiers being cut in half by machine gun fire while advancing along side a road in Panama. This thing about the split-screen is beyond the pale. I now imagine the sick grin(s) on the face of the person(s) who knew the propaganda value of what they were doing. Effing bastards they are.

42 pat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:30:36pm

Obama approves of anything that denigrates the country. The media is digging its own coffin.

43 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:32:26pm

re: #32 jemima

Sadly you are probably right about our numbers here.

33,000 visits to LGF today so far out of a country of 300,000,000.

That's around one in one thousand people.

44 Scrub  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:32:40pm

re: #9 Devil's Advocate

I just started watching your vids and I suppose now I ought to make a youtube account so I can do those things you politely ask of the viewers at the end of your vids.

You rock.

45 screaming_eagle  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:35:03pm

re: #41 Scrub

I was living on a running behind a C-130 in FL for the first couple of days. We had been deployed there for about 2 weeks prior to the invasion to OPFOR for the 75 Rangers. We never saw the footage but it upset families back home because there was no communication with them where we were. I know all about this.

46 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:36:57pm

re: #39 gatorbait

gatorbait -

YOU hit the Heart of the "GWB" Problem. The Constitution prevented him from managing the propaganda because his Congressional Authorization did not read "Declaration of War" though it was for all practical purposes. Beyond that, GWB for all of his positives was, as President, a Lousy Salesman. I say this with no malice, being a "trained" salesman ("ex-intellectual?") rather than a "natural." Perhaps he felt, that as President, he was above it, or should be. The Bully Pulpit doesn't work that way.

-S-

47 tommygum  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:37:04pm

re: #43 Ojoe

Sadly you are probably right about our numbers here.

33,000 visits to LGF today so far out of a country of 300,000,000.

That's around one in one thousand people.

And that doesn't factor in the foreign lizards.

48 KitchenQueen  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:48:22pm

re: #15 alegrias

Oddly enough,

I can't recall split screens of World Trade Center attack victims and Clinton playing Saxophone in February 1993.

Split screens of Bill Clinton & Al Qaeda attacks on US Embassies in Africa?

Nor split screens of Bill Clinton & Al Gore partying while the USS Cole attacks by Al Qaeda...

Or split screens of 0's White House parties and Michelle's Vanity Fair shoots with shots of the Dow spiraling down and lots of people getting their pink slips?

49 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 2:58:20pm

re: #48 KitchenQueen

Or split screens of 0's White House parties and Michelle's Vanity Fair shoots with shots of the Dow spiraling down and lots of people getting their pink slips?

Kitchen Queen -

With Today's Media - HIGHLY UNLIKELY. That is all.

-S-

50 USBeast  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 3:02:00pm

The more I watch Obama the more amazed I am at his lack of judgement. Never have I seen anyone so hellbent on engendering things that cannot fail to come back and bite them on the a**.

51 Kronocide  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 3:38:26pm

Great article. It supported an argument I made in a private industry forum I'm a member of about the coffin issue. Let's just say, I PWND then, now I can rePWND.

52 Trubbel  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 3:45:26pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

What are the family's rights in all of this. If it was my child, I sure as hell wouldn't want the msm photographing the return of my child in a coffin so they could use it to score political points.

I agree. Just to be clear though it is fortunately up to the family to decide. From the article:

Under the new policy, photographs will not be permitted of coffins if the families say no. The policy is similar to one in place for funerals at Arlington National Cemetery.

53 P. Aaron  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 3:46:25pm
McIntyre then writes ruefully: “It was the beginning of the end not just of live coverage, but of any photography or media coverage of war dead returning to the United States.”

The beginning of the end?!

Seems like the media had just started their own barrage biased and subjective news coverage waged only against Republican politicians.

MSM: shameless tools.

54 who is john galt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 4:13:06pm

re: #32 jemima

44 is burning through his capital (both real and political) FAST. He will not be able to save the Yellow Lady and we are the ones with the money that buys subscriptions to news sources. The people who are to lazy to work for their own money don't care what is going on in the world, if the did they would be working alongside US!
The MBM (moon bat media) is dying!
CBS is broke, The NYT's is broke, SFGate will be dead in a few weeks and The Rocky Mountain News died last week. The list goes on. A boycott by intelligent people can work and once these leftist rags are gone maybe we can get through to the fence sitters.

55 wolfgang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 4:33:11pm

"Give me your tired huddled masses yearning to be free" used to be the United States clarion call. Not any more, today it's the tired huddled masses yearning for a benevolent master. There will be no bleeding to death of the MSM due to a boycott by Conservatives.
Individualism, personal responsibility and self reliance are dead in America.
Obama, the NYT, the WaPo, ABC, CBS, CNN, and NBC intend to keep it that way.

56 shug  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 4:36:04pm

I just watched Taking Chance on HBO.

cried like a baby.

I'm all for showing our returning fallen heros so each and every one of us can Pay our respects and honor them.

This is assuming it is done tastefully and not used by the media to dishonor the troops and their mission.

on second thought...

57 NonNativeTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 4:42:41pm

A month ago the family of a fallen hero asked the public
to come to the airport and "welcome him home". They said he
would have wanted it that way. I went, it was very respectful and
moving. All who wanted to could also join the procession in their cars
to the chapel. All along the way , people stood on the side of the road and waved flags and honored him. This of course was the family's
wish and that wish was honored.

58 kynna  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:36:16pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

What are the family's rights in all of this. If it was my child, I sure as hell wouldn't want the msm photographing the return of my child in a coffin so they could use it to score political points.

It's completely classless and downright shameful for the media to have such a morbid fascination with our troops when they've paid the ultimate price. They don't show such interest when they're alive.

Well said. My first thoughts on reading the story.

They don't give a crap until the soldier is dead and then they work to strip him or her of heroism as quickly as they can. They want them to be victims because victims are easier to use.

And forget the families' wishes. They're not even a consideration unless the family is made up of Cindy Sheehans.

59 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:43:27pm
60 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:51:36pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

What are the family's rights in all of this. If it was my child, I sure as hell wouldn't want the msm photographing the return of my child in a coffin so they could use it to score political points.

It's completely classless and downright shameful for the media to have such a morbid fascination with our troops when they've paid the ultimate price. They don't show such interest when they're alive.


. . . . , well said!

61 dgd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:05:09pm

What we need to do is turn this issue around on the media guys. If they're going to show us pics of the coffins we need to show them and the rest of the country lots of us welcoming our returning heros home. I've been in airports all over the country when servicemen in uniform passed through. The response was always a heros welcome. Let's figure out a way to do it for the ones who gave all for us. And rub the gutless media guys noses in it.

62 KitchenQueen  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:05:43pm

re: #61 dgd

What we need to do is turn this issue around on the media guys. If they're going to show us pics of the coffins we need to show them and the rest of the country lots of us welcoming our returning heros home.

I wish it would work, but I've gotten so cynical about the media. They're perfectly willing to ignore what they don't want to see, whatever doesn't fit their predetermined story template.

I've seen them ignore a huge crowd (different, non-military related issue) and focus on a few staged counter-protestors. They just didn't care. It wasn't what they came to report.

re: #10 Sharmuta

If it was my child, I sure as hell wouldn't want the msm photographing the return of my child in a coffin so they could use it to score political points.


Msm vultures.

63 captain joe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:21:03pm

I seem to remember a short video of Clinton suddenly switching from a joking face to a tearing face on a dime when he spotted a camera aimed at him at Ron Brown's funeral.

64 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:41:33pm

re: #62 KitchenQueen

They're perfectly willing to ignore what they don't want to see, whatever doesn't fit their predetermined story template.

I've seen them ignore a huge crowd (different, non-military related issue) and focus on a few staged counter-protestors. They just didn't care. It wasn't what they came to report.

You are totally right.

65 Obsidiandog  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 8:44:35am

Good for Poppy. MSM aren't just ghouls, they also use these personal tragedies as a cudgel to bash Republican presidents. It remains to be seen if they will use them to whack Obama. It would be different If I thought they really cared, but they cynically use it to damage support for military action.

66 Occam's Beard  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:35:40am

A modest proposal: the media can take as many photographs as they want of the coffins of journalists killed in Iraq or Afghanistan. Deal?

67 mindy1  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 7:31:57pm

If you want the ban back go to
www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/700932889

68 mindy1  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 7:32:43pm

re: #56 shug
I do not get HBO, but pre-ordered the dvd-it looks good, in a sad way :(

69 jmuren  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:26:41am

The left made a big deal about the ban on coffin picture ban during both Bush administrations, but how many mentioned the ban placed on such photos during the early part of WWII by Roosevelt?

70 jmuren  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:27:32am

The left made a big deal about the ban on coffin picture ban during both Bush administrations, but how many mentioned the ban placed on such photos during the early part of WWII by Roosevelt?

71 Kobyashi Maru  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:07:46am

Uh, like it or not isn't it called freedom of speech? I agree with Secretary gate's recommendation that the families interests be balanced with the public's "right to know".

"If it bleeds, it leads" has been the watchword for at least 30-40 years; so why the big outcry? You may say it's part of the MSM conspiracy about something, I say look at the ratings on Drudge...all the Fox (who I assume doesn't and won't show the coffins..do they devote time to returning troops? How much?) people score way higher than anybody else, it's an open market of ideas, do you want to bring back the Alien and Sedition Act?

72 Kobyashi Maru  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:09:03am

Sorry preview is my friend, Secretary Gates...I'm a hunt and pecker...

73 Quilly Mammoth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:30:18pm

KM,
You're completely missing the point. The issue is using the pictures of coffins as "gotcha's". As in using the honored dead as political fodder. Which is what they did to Haitch Bush. We can be sure that such tactics will not be used against The Annointed One...so why not lift the ban?

There's also the Right to Privacy which means that parents shouldn't unwittingly have their grief used to influence politics. The difference would be that in a the heat of the moment a combat photo is one thing...the cold, calculating use of a fallen hero another.

BTW: I'm not sure I'd use a nick that indicates that the only way to win is to cheat.


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 Frank says:

Interviewer:
The notion of a "guitar solo" has preconceptions based on it; people automatically refute it because it's supposed to be self-indulgent or "for musicians." It's almost like things become iconographic and somehow lose their value for outsiders.

Zappa:
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