And Now for Some Andy Timmons

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Video • Sat Mar 7, 2009 at 5:39 pm PST • Views: 218

Looks like Andy’s playing live in a studio with a backing track; the tune is “Carpe Diem,” from That Was Then, This Is Now.

This guy is a monster.

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1 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:42:54pm

OK, you've twisted my arm. I'll stay for 4:33 longer.

2 Zimriel  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:44:31pm

Too many notes.

3 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:49:52pm

Good grief!
When one is as utterly talentless as I am, it is just jaw-droppingly awesome to see honest-to-goodness superior ability.

4 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:51:05pm

re: #3 reine.de.tout Not the music I prefer, but the guy is awesome regardless.

5 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:51:12pm

Bonnie Raitt has better hair

6 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:51:53pm

re: #4 DEZes

Not the music I prefer, but the guy is awesome regardless.

exactly.

7 Bobblehead  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:52:55pm

He's kind of got a Farah Fawcett thing going on with his hair doesn't he?

8 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:53:22pm

I'd love to hear more stories about your time as a professional musician Charles, the Jaco Pastorious story was riveting.

9 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:53:39pm

Wow, this guy is great!

10 Bobblehead  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:54:14pm

re: #8 MrPaulRevere

I'd love to hear more stories about your time as a professional musician Charles, the Jaco Pastorious story was riveting.

Yes. More stories please.

11 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:55:27pm

he is very fast...you need some strong fingers to do that...he did not miss a note either...course he's shreddin on a Strat :)

12 vibemanjoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:55:52pm

Nice...

Charles,

Thank you for these videos and introducing me to new artists that I would not otherwise have heard. I recently went to a Tommy Emmanuel concert in E'town KY, and I only knew about him because you and LGF. For the lizard's pleasure, here is an interview that Tommy did with a friend of mine on local radio. It is about an hour and a half so you might want to save it for some slow time. Greg Martin is the guitar player for the Kentucky Headhunters but he has a great live blues show weekly on local radio.

http://lowdownhoedown.com/TE.m3u

Joe

13 rawmuse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:56:48pm

Yeah, that dude has got it.
What would you call that tone?
I would call it "light distortion".

14 grahamski  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:57:24pm

Yup, Andy is great...

Hows about some Paul Gilbert...

15 Zimriel  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:57:25pm

re: #12 vibemanjoe

Nice...

Charles,

Thank you for these videos and introducing me to new artists that I would not otherwise have heard.

I'll second that. Even if it's not my cup of tea. I definitely appreciated Tom Waits, for instance.

16 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:57:45pm

I notice he wrote the piece, too. Awesome.

17 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:58:41pm

re: #13 rawmuse

Yeah, that dude has got it.
What would you call that tone?
I would call it "light distortion".

just enough...his harmonics at 3:00 were crystal clear

18 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:02:03pm

I see he played along with Steve Morse in the past.

Others too

19 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:03:44pm

re: #14 grahamski

Yup, Andy is great...

Hows about some Paul Gilbert...


[Video]

speed and lots of scales...not really a speed fan...taste and style for me

20 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:05:06pm

re: #18 Gus 802

I see he played along with Steve Morse in the past.

Others too

he's a great do it all player and been around a long time...

21 rawmuse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:06:39pm

The criteria I use for thoughtful analysis is as follows:
If I were to have heard the same notes and rhythms played on another instrument, would I have enjoyed it just as much?

In this case, the answer is yes. Very inventive use of the entire axe, the rhythms were varied and the note choices were exciting.

22 iLikeCandy  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:06:46pm

re: #2 Zimriel

Too many notes.

Not enough notes. The video's gone.

23 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:07:45pm

re: #22 iLikeCandy

Not enough notes. The video's gone.


Still works for me.

24 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:08:18pm

re: #20 albusteve

he's a great do it all player and been around a long time...

Timmons or Morse? I actually never heard of Timmons -- his name at least. Sounds like he's pretty versatile from his recording history. One of those players that doesn't have any problems getting work.

25 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:09:18pm

And why, exactly, is this man a monster? Did he not evolve? Hmmm? Can we see his nirth cirtifikit?!?!?!

No I am not a troofer, why do you ask? :)

26 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:11:17pm

For some reason, it reminds me of this:

Though I have to say, the only thing scarier than the fact that Johnny Winter's performance is thirty five years old, is the black midriff he's wearing.

27 USBeast  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:13:33pm

Way too busy for my taste. I prefer artists who try to engage in intercourse with their audience, not those who try to...please themselves in public.

28 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:13:55pm

OT: Never thought I would see Sam Webb, the head of the Communist Party USA, being given a national forum to advocate for and defend Communism in the US ...on Glenn Beck's show.

29 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:14:52pm

re: #24 Gus 802

Timmons or Morse? I actually never heard of Timmons -- his name at least. Sounds like he's pretty versatile from his recording history. One of those players that doesn't have any problems getting work.

I was referring to Steve Morse...sorry

30 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:16:36pm

Well its dead tonight, and AMW is on, night all!

31 grahamski  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:16:40pm

Another one of my faves...Mr. Frank Gambale...

32 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:17:03pm

re: #2 Zimriel

Too many notes.

Wrong century! ;-)

33 iLikeCandy  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:17:54pm

re: #23 DEZes

Still works for me.

Woops, I got it now.

34 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:18:21pm

re: #31 grahamski

Corea!

35 vibemanjoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:18:48pm

re: #28 pink freud

I listened to Glenn's treatment the next day on the radio and he was trying to get Mr. Webb to demonstrate his absurdity. He mostly succeeded but he did ended up giving a voice to the communist party in the process. I many folks listening may have detected the contradictions in his arguments, but it may not have been entirely clear.

36 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:19:10pm

Oh my God, Bruce Hornsby and Ricky Skaggs in the Now Playing slot!

Best song on that album is Hills of Mexico. Can't find a video of them performing it. :(

37 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:19:23pm

re: #29 albusteve

Thought maybe that's what you meant. I can actually hear some Morse in Timmons work.

38 iLikeCandy  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:20:14pm

I always wonder at these song titles. Carpe Diem. I could also have called that song Sine Qua Non or Planck's Constant.

39 CapeCoddah  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:21:03pm

Great stuff, thanks Charles!

40 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:21:30pm

Crankin' de axe ... lordy do wish we could all play like that?

41 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:22:45pm

OT: went to the gun show in Glendale, a suburb at the east end of the San Fernando Valley here in LA, and got there about 3pm.

the locusts had already struck: about the only ammo left was odd ball calibers: almost all the 9mm, 40, 45, 30.06, 308 & 7.62 ComBloc was gone...
at one table, they said a single individual had bought 8000 rounds of 9mm.

the line at the DROS booth was 10-12 sales deep, and they had piles behind the counter already processed.

42 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:26:08pm

re: #41 redc1c4

We got the card but forgot about it, darn.

8,000 rounds of 9MM? I wouldn't be surprised if some undercover cop followed that guy out to get his license plate number.

43 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:26:38pm

re: #41 redc1c4

the line at the DROS booth was 10-12 sales deep, and they had piles behind the counter already processed.

And that's not even counting the dealers who were doing it themselves by paper or the dealers who can access the electronic DROS at the show, right?

44 vibemanjoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:26:45pm

I love music threads.

Especially since I lost my hearing.

Got it back in one ear and I listen all of the time thinking that one of these days my hearing loss may come back and so I try to keep something going all of the time.

While I was deaf, I still played piano at church but I had to ask folks if I it sounded like I was hitting the right notes. They were nice but i am not sure if they were always truthful, even at church. Since I improvise, I am sure the results were interesting at times.

Joe

45 ointmentfly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:27:26pm

Proves my wife right after my 5 chord jam session on my refurbished Fender Lead III this afternoon... I do in fact suck, and don't surprised if I find guitar and amp smoldering in the yard in the morning...

46 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:31:04pm

Anybody got a Hendrix gig that compares?

47 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:33:16pm

OK, hold on to your socks and garters...

Bruce Hornsby, Ricky Skaggs, and Kentucky Thunder perform a Bluegrass version of "Superfreak"!

48 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:33:35pm

I wish I could walk with that kind of finesse.

Way cool Charles - thanks.

49 efuseakay  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:34:58pm

I would have never associated the band Danger Danger with the talents Andy has. This man is truly a gift!

50 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:35:01pm

re: #46 Bobibutu

Anybody got a Hendrix gig that compares?

Little Wing...

51 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:35:19pm
52 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:36:32pm

Hendrix,,,Little Wing 1968

53 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:37:13pm

re: #27 USBeast

Way too busy for my taste. I prefer artists who try to engage in intercourse with their audience, not those who try to...please themselves in public.

You mean like this:

Of course music appreciation is a personal choice. He does seem to engage with his audience rather well.

54 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:37:18pm

re: #47 SteveC

Nice but lacks energy and intensity.

55 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:37:45pm

re: #50 albusteve

Little Wing...

Link?

56 HoosierHoops  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:38:56pm

re: #50 albusteve

Little Wing...

One of my favorite songs of all time..

57 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:39:27pm

re: #55 Bobibutu

Got it.

58 livefreeor die  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:40:21pm

OT-Did I already miss the discussion of Obama screwing up Brown's visit because he's tired?

59 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:40:33pm

by compaison SRV...Little Wing...yowza!

60 CynicalConservative  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:42:38pm

re: #58 livefreeor die

OT-Did I already miss the discussion of Obama screwing up Brown's visit because he's tired?

It was discussed a bit in the previous thread, but worth bringing up again.

61 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:43:15pm

re: #52 albusteve

Hendrix,,,Little Wing 1968


[Video]

Nice - but no enchilada in comparison
IMHO.

62 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:44:11pm

re: #46 Bobibutu

Can't really compare Hendrix with Timmons.

Apples, oranges IMO.

63 livefreeor die  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:45:37pm

re: #60 CynicalConservative

It was discussed a bit in the previous thread, but worth bringing up again.

Sorry-I was busy with the baby. I'm just in shock that the leader of the free world, who is suppposed to protect us, is promoting an "overwhelmed" meme. After only six weeks.

You know, I bet Bush felt overwhelmed and tired at times but since he was President, he didn't mention it!

64 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:45:59pm

re: #61 Bobibutu

Nice - but no enchilada in comparison
IMHO.

heh...ask Andy what he thinks of Hendrix

65 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:46:45pm

re: #58 livefreeor die

OT-Did I already miss the discussion of Obama screwing up Brown's visit because he's tired?

He's not the only one tired. Hillary blamed this gem on 'tiredness'...

A veteran politician, Clinton compared the complex European political environment to that of the two-party U.S. system, before adding:

"I have never understood multiparty democracy.

"It is hard enough with two parties to come to any resolution, and I say this very respectfully, because I feel the same way about our own democracy, which has been around a lot longer than European democracy."

The remark provoked much headshaking in the parliament of a bloc that likes to trace back its democratic tradition thousands of years to the days of classical Greece.

One working lunch later with EU leaders, Clinton raised more eyebrows when she referred to EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana, who stood beside her, as "High Representative Solano."

She also dubbed European Commission External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner as "Benito."

66 ointmentfly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:47:12pm

Who wouldn't be tired being the tip of the spear of liberalism and its posterboy... You have no soul or principles and spend every waking hour keeping 1000 liberal interest groups happy...

re: #58 livefreeor die

OT-Did I already miss the discussion of Obama screwing up Brown's visit because he's tired?

67 freedombilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:47:33pm

re: #3 reine.de.tout

Good grief!
When one is as utterly talentless as I am, it is just jaw-droppingly awesome to see honest-to-goodness superior ability.

But not every musician can put together a kick ass cook book!

68 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:49:22pm

Well, if this is going to turn into a de facto blues rock thread, we can't leave Hendrix doppleganger Robin Trower out:

69 Macker  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:49:30pm

And now for some Green Slime!

70 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:50:10pm

re: #62 Gus 802

Can't really compare Hendrix with Timmons.

Apples, oranges IMO.

How so?

71 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:50:27pm

re: #51 Iron Fist

This may sound crazy, but I have started seeing guns show up here on craigslist. I also see ads posted for people looking for specific guns. Maybe you could try that? (I don't know where you are or if that is legal in your area.)

72 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:50:28pm

Is he Coltrane's son, or something?
He's very talented ... er ... but ...

73 HoosierHoops  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:51:24pm

re: #72 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is he Coltrane's son, or something?
He's very talented ... er ... but ...

Good evening brat!

74 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:51:27pm

re: #64 albusteve

heh...ask Andy what he thinks of Hendrix

Since it aint happening what do you think?

75 livefreeor die  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:51:31pm

re: #65 NJDhockeyfan

They need to coordinate their excuses better. Two of them in one day blaming it on tiredness?

By the way, ask my 13 year old how well the "I was tired" excuse works in our house...

76 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:52:00pm

Back to reality:
Obama mulls reaching out to moderate Taliban - NYT

WTF! Is this guy serious? Is there no better definition of an oxymoron than a "moderate" Taliban?

He must have hired some Paki advisers (and I don't care if some think that is an insult, for whatever reason they think it is).

77 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:52:07pm

re: #73 HoosierHoops

Good evening brat!

Hoops!

78 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:52:49pm

You guys are killing me with the blues videos. I'm on dial up.

79 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:52:59pm

re: #63 livefreeor die

You know, I bet Bush felt overwhelmed and tired at times but since he was President, he didn't mention it!

"Yes, we're tired. Yes, there is no relief. Yes, the Cylons keep coming after us time after time after time. And yes, we are still expected to do our jobs!" - Saul Tigh, Battlestar Galactica

80 twincitiesgirl  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:54:00pm

Call me shallow, but, ah...
Gorgeous Guitar

81 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:54:10pm

re: #76 Naso Tang

Dildo Brain sub Zer0 1 never ceases to amaze us.

82 HoosierHoops  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:54:18pm

re: #77 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hoops!

Can you believe on the History channel they are showing Einstein's life and theory? Usually it's about UFO's..

83 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:54:36pm

re: #78 NJDhockeyfan

You guys are killing me with the blues videos. I'm on dial up.

We won't send any mo'dem then.

84 Racer X  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:55:25pm

This is interesting.

Text to speech.

85 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:55:44pm

re: #78 NJDhockeyfan

You guys are killing me with the blues videos. I'm on dial up.

No kidding? Are you in Afghanistan?

86 livefreeor die  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:55:48pm

re: #79 SteveC

"Yes, we're tired. Yes, there is no relief. Yes, the Cylons keep coming after us time after time after time. And yes, we are still expected to do our jobs!" - Saul Tigh, Battlestar Galactica

Let's put him in charge.

87 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:56:42pm

re: #82 HoosierHoops

Can you believe on the History channel they are showing Einstein's life and theory? Usually it's about UFO's..

"Relativity" is very, very important to liberals.

88 Learned Mother of Zion  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:57:05pm

re: #76 Naso Tang

Back to reality:
Obama mulls reaching out to moderate Taliban - NYT

WTF! Is this guy serious? Is there no better definition of an oxymoron than a "moderate" Taliban?

He must have hired some Paki advisers (and I don't care if some think that is an insult, for whatever reason they think it is).

Holy crap.

89 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:57:54pm

re: #83 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #87 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Funny and evil, both. You on da jazz tonight.

90 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:58:16pm

re: #74 Bobibutu

Since it aint happening what do you think?

I think Hendrix invented a new thing from whole cloth...he was so far ahead of his time peoples heads were spinning...he WROTE Little Wing and the fact that SRV uses that song to showcase his shred talent says alot...sure eveyone has caught up and passed Hendrix but at 25-29 yrs old he was a sensation, playing his guitar upside down...he did a thing nobody else ever did and it took years for players to figure him out and most still can't...Hendrix was the real deal

91 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:58:59pm

re: #70 Bobibutu

It's different musical styles and techniques. Hendrix was singer, songwriter as well as guitarist that introduced a lot of groundbreaking material during his short life. Timmons is a well respected studio musician and backup guitarist as well as a solo artist and very well versed in guitar.

Two completely different people and music both having respectable accomplishments. I don't like the comparing game but if you had to compare Hendrix to someone it could be to Robin Trower. Timmons than can be compared to Steve Morse.

Think of it like comparing Yehudi Menuhin with Stephan Grappelli both historical and groundbreaking vilonists.

92 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:59:29pm

re: #76 Naso Tang

He must have hired some Paki advisers...

Undoubtedly. Probably being "Gul-ed".

93 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:59:45pm

re: #85 Naso Tang

No kidding? Are you in Afghanistan?

No, rural Virginia. Supposedly we are getting BPL soon. They have been telling us that for the past 5 years. We'll see.

94 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:00:46pm

re: #86 livefreeor die

Let's put him in charge.

So say we all! Even though he is a toaster...
or a skin job...
who thinks he's one of us...
I mean them...
damn it, you need a scorecard to keep everyone straight these days!

95 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:01:20pm

re: #89 Van Helsing

re: #87 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Funny and evil, both. You on da jazz tonight.

Having fun while I can.
Goddess is probably lurking.
I'll get a face full of cat claws any moment.

96 HoosierHoops  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:01:42pm

re: #90 albusteve

I think Hendrix invented a new thing from whole cloth...he was so far ahead of his time peoples heads were spinning...he WROTE Little Wing and the fact that SRV uses that song to showcase his shred talent says alot...sure eveyone has caught up and passed Hendrix but at 25-29 yrs old he was a sensation, playing his guitar upside down...he did a thing nobody else ever did and it took years for players to figure him out and most still can't...Hendrix was the real deal

Upding! Jimmy wrote a simple song in E minor and moved the world...

97 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:03:17pm

re: #93 NJDhockeyfan

No, rural Virginia. Supposedly we are getting BPL soon. They have been telling us that for the past 5 years. We'll see.

What's BPL? I

98 USBeast  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:04:14pm

re: #53 Gus 802

You mean like this:


[Video]

Of course music appreciation is a personal choice. He does seem to engage with his audience rather well.

Not exactly. He was having fun with his audience, which is totally cool. Fun is a form of intercourse. What bores me is an instrumentalists who tries to impress me with the number of gnat notes they can cram into a measure while conveying no meaning.

99 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:04:14pm

re: #97 Naso Tang

What's BPL? I

Barak Pays Little?

100 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:05:19pm

Jimi Hendrix?!?!

Wes Montgomery
Segovia
Julian Bream
Les Paul
Alan Shavarsh Bardezbanian

101 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:05:41pm

Smokin'!

102 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:05:44pm

re: #90 albusteve

I think Hendrix invented a new thing from whole cloth...he was so far ahead of his time peoples heads were spinning...he WROTE Little Wing and the fact that SRV uses that song to showcase his shred talent says alot...sure eveyone has caught up and passed Hendrix but at 25-29 yrs old he was a sensation, playing his guitar upside down...he did a thing nobody else ever did and it took years for players to figure him out and most still can't...Hendrix was the real deal

No argument - but this gig was exceptional.

103 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:06:43pm

U.S. Marine Reception Smackdown:
George W. Bush meets the Marines on Labor Day
vs.
Barack 0bama meets the Marines last week

The result?

(h/t Pajamas Media)

104 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:07:43pm

re: #98 USBeast

I know and completely understand. I've basically drifted away from a lot of instrumental music towards a more melodic or song based style. I still like the instrumental works but I prefer to mix it up now -- what I listen to that is.

105 rain of lead  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:09:00pm

I read the news
I read the blogs
day after day after day after day
I think "it can't get worse. can it?"
then...it does.
after "teh one" was elected I thought I had moved through the 7 stages
of grief till I had finally come to acceptance then another drip drip drip

I would weep but I have no tears

106 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:09:38pm

re: #76 Naso Tang

No fucking way. Is this quote accurate?:

In an interview with the newspaper published on its website, Obama said that some of the U.S. success in Iraq involved reaching out to Islamic fundamentalists who had been alienated by the tactics of al Qaeda in Iraq.

We reached out to Sunni tribesmen who were alienated by Islamic fundamentalists. I guess it really doesn't matter if the quote is accurate in that if Reuters thought that Bush had said something that jaw-droppingly stupid, they would have been all over him like stink on shit.

107 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:09:43pm

re: #100 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Almost went to see Segovia (which was soon before he passed away) but got lazy.

108 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:10:16pm

Here's another in the same vein as BO's outreach to the Taliban:
The Obama administration warned the Syrian ruler to desist from his maneuverings to orchestrate a victory for Hizballah and its allies in Lebanon's July 7 elections.

Debka is a bit suspicious in it's reporting sometimes, but this rings true, as in wishful thinking by the administration.

Not being quite as fervent in my disdain as some, I like to tell myself that Obama and Co are smart enough to know what's what and are pandering to their moonbat supporters, fully expecting their efforts to fail but then being able to say "we tried".

What comes next however will be the real thing.

109 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:10:49pm

re: #105 rain of lead

I read the news
I read the blogs
day after day after day after day
I think "it can't get worse. can it?"
then...it does.
after "teh one" was elected I thought I had moved through the 7 stages
of grief till I had finally come to acceptance then another drip drip drip

I would weep but I have no tears

drink more fluids...it's all about money, if you have alot you're cool

110 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:10:49pm
111 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:11:06pm

re: #91 Gus 802

Point well taken - but this was some awesome playing that IMHO rivals teeth playing.

112 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:11:49pm

re: #107 Gus 802

Almost went to see Segovia (which was soon before he passed away) but got lazy.

I got to see Carlos Montoya.
(*eyes upwards* ... thank you, thank you, thank you)

113 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:13:10pm
114 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:13:18pm

re: #106 David Simon

No fucking way. Is this quote accurate?:...

Is that rhetorical or do you think I know?

115 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:13:39pm

re: #103 gmsc

A "mostly tepid response" for Obama, rousing cheer and what sure as hell looked like genuine happiness for Bush.

What could the reason be? Think, think, think...

I got nuffin'... A complete mystery.

Not.

116 rain of lead  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:13:39pm

re: #109 albusteve

drink more fluids...it's all about money, if you have alot you're cool

$ yeah, had some, have alot less now...fluids..hmmm beer is a fluid
need more beer looots more beer

117 Wishing  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:14:19pm

I am hoping that some young man steps froward from the ranks of our wonderful military and leads our country back to its collective senses.

118 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:15:17pm

re: #115 Van Helsing

He was leaving.

119 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:15:26pm
120 HoosierHoops  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:15:35pm

re: #112 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I got to see Carlos Montoya.
(*eyes upwards* ... thank you, thank you, thank you)

I saw jon scofield in Berkley once with billy comham on drums.
That dude played guitar like I have never heard..

121 Wishing  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:15:38pm

re: #103 gmsc


Thank you so much for that video.

122 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:15:39pm

re: #97 Naso Tang

What's BPL?

Broadband over power lines. My county is a test market. They sent me a modem last year. I am waiting for them to go live.

123 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:15:45pm

re: #106 David Simon

BRO!

124 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:16:11pm

re: #117 Wishing

I am hoping that some young man steps froward from the ranks of our wonderful military and leads our country back to its collective senses.

Huh?

125 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:16:25pm

re: #112 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Another one of "the greats."

126 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:16:33pm

re: #119 Iron Fist

There was a wicked piece about the Obama-Britain fiasco today in the National Post...I'm too lazy to link...worth reading.

127 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:16:39pm

Good evening all.

Looks like it's reality check time for PBO.

1. Somethings wrong when Hugo Chavez is cheering you on.
2. It takes two weeks for you to react to to your AG's inflammatory speech.
3. Your own countries business community has no faith in your policies and
your ability to lead.
4. When you thrive on a crisis.

128 HoosierHoops  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:16:43pm

re: #123 WriterMom

BRO!

Writermom! good evening

129 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:16:49pm

re: #103 gmsc

U.S. Marine Reception Smackdown:
George W. Bush meets the Marines on Labor Day
vs.
Barack 0bama meets the Marines last week

The result?



(h/t Pajamas Media)

Were they ordered to not clap when FCBBHO walked in the room?

130 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:16:49pm

re: #114 Naso Tang

Is that rhetorical or do you think I know?

I have no idea if you know or don't know; I'm just wondering aloud. I can't seem to find the NYT piece. Anyone?

131 Wishing  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:16:58pm

re: #124 Naso Tang

Huh?

Not sure what the huh? is about...

132 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:17:06pm

re: #128 HoosierHoops

Hi HH..how are things?

133 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:17:17pm

re: #119 Iron Fist

What can I say, except I hope you are wrong, at least in something.

134 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:17:29pm

re: #118 pre-Boomer Marine brat

He was leaving.

And in the meantime, some regiment's mascot dog had peed on the left rear tire of the Presidential limo.

135 USBeast  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:17:30pm

re: #100 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Jimi Hendrix?!?!

Wes Montgomery
Segovia
Julian Bream
Les Paul
Alan Shavarsh Bardezbanian

And Kottke

136 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:17:50pm

re: #113 ploome hineni

Tepid response! One of many understated observations to come.

137 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:17:56pm

re: #123 WriterMom

BRO!

SIS! How are you this evening?

138 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:18:38pm

re: #121 Wishing

Thank you so much for that video.

You're welcome.

139 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:20:17pm

re: #129 MandyManners

Were they ordered to not clap when FCBBHO walked in the room?

If so, that would be one order that would be easy to follow.

140 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:20:27pm

Geraldo makes me sick. He just broke the news that Obama is considering sending U.S. troops to the Mexican border to help Mexico with the drug cartels. Geraldo doesn't seem to have a problem with that. Remember when he said on national TV he wanted to spit in Michele Malkin's face for wanting our borders secure?

141 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:20:37pm

re: #129 MandyManners

HAHAHAH awesome vid..

142 HoosierHoops  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:20:39pm

re: #132 WriterMom

Hi HH..how are things?

Hey you..pretty slow night..just watching dumb and dumber..
/it was moms favorite movie..pretty funny

143 TheRealThing  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:20:55pm

Left hand in your pocket, Right hand full of cash for Islamics, underhanded
in your congress and senate, your new President has lots of hands fanning the fires.

144 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:20:58pm

re: #110 Iron Fist

That is one way to try and find what you want. The problem with that is that you are pretty much at the mercy of whomever has the weapon in regards to the price. I've been watching gunbroker.com for the past few months. You hae weapons for sale there that I didn't even know existed, Like semi-auto MG-42s, which was a WWII German light-machine gun. They run around $3000.

It'd be nice to have that kind of money to throw at it :-)

I've been looking for a 16" fluted AR-15/M-4 barrel (or barreled upper), and I can't find even one company that actually has it in stock. Everyone is backordered to the hilt. I've gotten some of the things I've been looking for in the last 3-4 months, and I still have one item backordered (non-firearm).

Even if Obama and the Democrats do nothing on gun control, they've already gotten a lot of people who might not have otherwise armed themselves to invest in weaponry. This is, in the grand scheme of things, a good thing.

this is/was a small gun show, so not many vendors, but there were a variety of AR uppers, etc, available. we ran into a guy with a CZ-52 in very good condition, matching numbers and all, who wanted $275 for it. while they were in the DROS line, i was drooling over a Rock Island 45 in the case next door for $450. unfortunately, i'm the starving college student these days, so i had to settle for a case of M1 carbine ammo and 4 10 round mags for us to use at the CPM matches.

145 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:21:12pm

re: #137 David Simon

Still looking for some goyische volunteers for my Hamentaschen tomorrow...

146 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:21:42pm

re: #135 USBeast

And Kottke

That brings back old times and memories.

147 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:22:02pm

Fatboy Slim, "Weapon of Choice". Christopher Walken busts a move! (several moves!)

148 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:22:08pm

re: #142 HoosierHoops

I suffered through some really idiotic cartoons. I think some of the cartoon writers and illustrators are derranged, drug-addicted psychopaths.

149 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:22:37pm

History International channel has a great program on right now on sharpshooters. A guy was just on with a rifle (22 cal I think) tossing coins up in the air then shooting holes through them. He then threw aspirin up and shot them. Incredible.

150 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:22:44pm

re: #122 NJDhockeyfan

Broadband over power lines. My county is a test market. They sent me a modem last year. I am waiting for them to go live.

Oh. I read about that. You must be really out in the boonies though. My wife tells me about her cousins in the hollers and the outhouses logistically placed on the hill above the vegetable garden, but that was before they paved the roads. I've got a place 35 minutes drive from the nearest civilization in Georgia (aka Wallmart), but we do have DSL and then there is that large group of people from Verizon always hovering up the driveway...

151 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:23:14pm

re: #145 WriterMom

Still looking for some goyische volunteers for my Hamentaschen tomorrow...

bwahaha, Arab "news" is going to lift that quote!

152 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:23:26pm

re: #111 Bobibutu

Point well taken - but this was some awesome playing that IMHO rivals teeth playing.

it's all about attack and style...lots of players can play fast and hit every note...scales are like that and speed and articulation are okay...but beyond that there is a feel for the guitar too...a natural extention of your brain to your hands...attack...it reveals how comfortable you are and how unforced the playing comes out..some player grit their teeth and grind away and others just lay back and it all comes out just like they hear it in their head, fluid and and easy...you can tell the difference when you compare alot of different players...SRV was the most fluid, natural guitarist I ever saw and I saw Hendrix too...you just watch how easy it seems to be for them and you get the feeling that they could do anything, play anything they want effortlessly...and I'm talking an extremely difficult thing to master...there is a higher order to it...some players have it and some don't

153 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:23:32pm

re: #135 USBeast

And Kottke

Very nice.

Craig Ogden, from Rodrigo's Concierto En Aranjuez
I have this on CD. WOW!

154 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:23:36pm

re: #140 ciaospirit

He's such a turd. FUGGETABOUTIT.

155 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:23:52pm

re: #140 ciaospirit

Geraldo makes me sick. He just broke the news that Obama is considering sending U.S. troops to the Mexican border to help Mexico with the drug cartels. Geraldo doesn't seem to have a problem with that. Remember when he said on national TV he wanted to spit in Michele Malkin's face for wanting our borders secure?

That's when I stopped watching him. When he comes on I turn the channel.

156 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:24:09pm

re: #151 David Simon

Good, they can fucking quote me on that.

:P

157 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:24:40pm

re: #139 gmsc

If so, that would be one order that would be easy to follow.

Other than outright dislike they probably have for him, that's the only thing I could think of that would cause such a reaction.

158 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:25:10pm

re: #139 gmsc

If so, that would be one order that would be easy to follow.

no one would give that order, as it would likely be a UCMJ violation, and it sure as hell would get out that it had been given.

i believe what you saw was the natural antipathy that warriors feel for whinny little candy asses.

159 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:25:13pm

re: #141 WriterMom

HAHAHAH awesome vid..

GMSC posted it in No. 103.

160 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:25:32pm

re: #156 WriterMom

Good, they can fucking quote me on that.

:P

Ooh I love it when you're feisty :->

161 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:26:23pm

re: #159 MandyManners

I just gave it a ding.

162 USBeast  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:26:30pm

re: #146 Gus 802

That brings back old times and memories.

Ain't that what it's all about?

163 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:26:47pm

re: #160 David Simon

Oh puh lease. I'm in my flannels. Fiesty in flannel? ROFL.

164 HoosierHoops  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:27:09pm

re: #148 WriterMom

I suffered through some really idiotic cartoons. I think some of the cartoon writers and illustrators are derranged, drug-addicted psychopaths.

LOL
anybody named square pants should not live at the bottom of the Ocean?
/weird.

165 itellu3times  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:27:09pm

Paul Simon festival on PBS ... back then, people wrote songs, with lyrics, and like that.

She said a good day ain't got no rain
She said a bad day is when I lie in the bed
And I think of things that might have been.

/lyrics for the Obamanation

166 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:27:18pm

re: #140 ciaospirit

Geraldo makes me sick. He just broke the news that Obama is considering sending U.S. troops to the Mexican border to help Mexico with the drug cartels. Geraldo doesn't seem to have a problem with that. Remember when he said on national TV he wanted to spit in Michele Malkin's face for wanting our borders secure?

Remember the way Alex Jones treated her in Denver? He and Geraldo are two peas in a pod.

167 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:28:15pm

re: #166 MandyManners

Remember the way Alex Jones treated her in Denver? He and Geraldo are two peas in a pod.

can you imagine the screaming if Bush had sent troops to the border?

168 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:28:19pm

re: #162 USBeast

Sure is. I love all kinds of music. I learned that very Kottke tune soon after I first heard it. Did it with an open E tuning and slide.

169 Josephine  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:28:23pm

re: #163 WriterMom

Oh puh lease. I'm in my flannels. Fiesty in flannel? ROFL.

Colour me plucky in polyester.

170 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:29:01pm

re: #166 MandyManners

Alex Jones is vermin. Compared to him Geraldo looks like Edward R. Murrow.

171 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:29:04pm

re: #155 NJDhockeyfan

That's when I stopped watching him. When he comes on I turn the channel.

He says it's to help Mexico and thinks nothing of the fact that he adamantly did not support protecting Americans being overrun by illegals at the border. He just now said "We've got to help Mexico."

Spit

172 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:29:08pm

re: #163 WriterMom

Oh puh lease. I'm in my flannels. Fiesty in flannel? ROFL.

I've put all mine away 'cause we're in the 70s already. The forsythia bushes are blooming, too.

173 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:29:47pm

re: #167 redc1c4

can you imagine the screaming if Bush had sent troops to the border?

Moonbat-shit crazy.

174 USBeast  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:29:49pm

re: #153 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Very nice.

Craig Ogden, from Rodrigo's Concierto En Aranjuez
I have this on CD. WOW!

Excellent! Thank you.

175 Not Sold In Stores! Act NOW!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:29:55pm

Uh, if Andy wasn't playing live in a studio... Charles? Keep the sounds coming.

176 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:30:17pm

re: #172 MandyManners

I'm so jealous. We had one nice day this week, but now it's pouring rain and only about 7 or 8 C, which is about 45F. I hate the cold.

177 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:30:18pm

re: #150 Naso Tang

Oh. I read about that. You must be really out in the boonies though. My wife tells me about her cousins in the hollers and the outhouses logistically placed on the hill above the vegetable garden, but that was before they paved the roads. I've got a place 35 minutes drive from the nearest civilization in Georgia (aka Wallmart), but we do have DSL and then there is that large group of people from Verizon always hovering up the driveway...

Ntelos has a wireless modem available out here but the tower is on top of the mountain and my house is on the side of the mountain. The signal goes right over my house. You have to have a direct view of the cell tower to get a signal.

178 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:30:27pm

re: #170 MrPaulRevere

Alex Jones is vermin. Compared to him Geraldo looks like Edward R. Murrow.

More like Robin Leach.

179 HoosierHoops  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:30:27pm

re: #172 MandyManners

I've put all mine away 'cause we're in the 70s already. The forsythia bushes are blooming, too.

Isn't it heaven that we get to experience spring every year?

180 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:30:52pm

re: #169 Josephine

Hey you!

181 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:30:55pm

re: #169 Josephine

Colour me plucky in polyester.

I'm terrific in a T.

182 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:31:02pm

re: #172 MandyManners

I've put all mine away 'cause we're in the 70s already. The forsythia bushes are blooming, too.

Will this be turning into a nightgown thread?
Should I give it rapt attention?

/should I duck?

183 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:31:39pm

re: #176 WriterMom

I'm so jealous. We had one nice day this week, but now it's pouring rain and only about 7 or 8 C, which is about 45F. I hate the cold.

My body hates cold and wet. Ooh. I got a twinge just thinking about it.

184 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:31:46pm

re: #166 MandyManners

Remember the way Alex Jones treated her in Denver? He and Geraldo are two peas in a pod.

Geraldo (aka Jerry Rivers) is a dipstick. He overhypes everything, and hyperventilates for the cameras. Remember his performance (only word for it) in New Orleans after Katrina? Remember his opening the empty Al Capone vault? Geraldo has no right nor room to talk about anyone else, anytime, anywhere.

185 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:31:55pm
186 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:31:59pm

I'm getting tired. I really am stress about tomorrow. I am baking hamentaschen and putting together Mishloach Manot AND have a Purim party and a dinner to go to. GAAA. But it's all good.

187 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:32:03pm

re: #179 HoosierHoops

Isn't it heaven that we get to experience spring every year?

It makes winter bearable.

188 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:32:32pm

re: #182 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Will this be turning into a nightgown thread?
Should I give it rapt attention?

/should I duck?

Nightgowns? Blech.

189 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:32:45pm

re: #183 MandyManners

UCH. Me too. And everyone in my nuclear family is always hot. I'm freezing and they are in t-shirts. There is no justice!

190 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:33:07pm

re: #182 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Nightgowns? UGH.

191 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:33:13pm

re: #186 WriterMom

I'm getting tired. I really am stress about tomorrow. I am baking hamentaschen and putting together Mishloach Manot AND have a Purim party and a dinner to go to. GAAA. But it's all good.

So, you wanna be President?

192 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:33:21pm

re: #188 MandyManners

Nightgowns? Blech.

You sleep in the nude too? Glad to hear it.

193 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:33:36pm

Leo Kottke live...Louise


194 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:34:14pm

re: #173 MandyManners

Moonbat-shit crazy.

on both sides of the border.

195 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:34:14pm

re: #192 Naso Tang

You sleep in the nude too? Glad to hear it.

That's almost as good as "I prefer fucking."

LOL! :-)

196 Learned Mother of Zion  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:34:18pm

re: #186 WriterMom

I'm getting tired. I really am stress about tomorrow. I am baking hamentaschen and putting together Mishloach Manot AND have a Purim party and a dinner to go to. GAAA. But it's all good.

I just thought it would be really nice to go to Toronto for the holiday but it's kind of late to hit up my daughter-in-law for an invitation.

197 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:34:41pm

re: #188 MandyManners

Nightgowns? Blech.

are you insane? %-)

198 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:34:58pm

re: #191 SteveC

Sadly, I would not be eligible as a Canadian. But thanks for thinking of me. I'm sure I could have at least picked out a better gift for the British PM and his family than effing DVD movies and plastic helicopters.

199 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:35:25pm

re: #165 itellu3times

And KAET (Phoenix) is playing Victor Borge.
It's beg-a-thon time. The really good shows come out.

200 WriterMom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:35:43pm

re: #196 Alouette

Awww bummer. There are some mega Purim parties going on here.

201 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:35:45pm

re: #174 USBeast

Excellent! Thank you.

You are very welcome.

Do an Amazon search under music for "craig ogden" rodrigo
It'll take you right to the album.

BUT remember to go there via Charles' Amazon link

202 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:36:10pm

re: #184 Honorary Yooper

Geraldo (aka Jerry Rivers) is a dipstick. He overhypes everything, and hyperventilates for the cameras. Remember his performance (only word for it) in New Orleans after Katrina? Remember his opening the empty Al Capone vault? Geraldo has no right nor room to talk about anyone else, anytime, anywhere.

"Michelle Malkin is the most vile, hateful commentator I've ever met in my life", he says. "She actually believes that neighbors should start snitching out neighbors, and we should be deporting people. It's good she's in D.C. and I’m in NY. I’d spit on her if I saw her.”

He should talk!

I think he's rather envious of her.

203 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:36:47pm

re: #197 redc1c4

are you insane? %-)

See through with spaghetti straps for the ladies.

Spandex shorts for the guys. With spandex shirts that say "All this and brains too!"

204 kansas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:36:54pm

re: #58 livefreeor die

OT-Did I already miss the discussion of Obama screwing up Brown's visit because he's tired?

[Link: powerlineblog.com...]

205 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:36:58pm

re: #189 WriterMom

UCH. Me too. And everyone in my nuclear family is always hot. I'm freezing and they are in t-shirts. There is no justice!

Silk long-johns.

206 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:37:05pm

re: #193 albusteve

Nice. And there's that slide. Kottke always knows how to get great tone out his guitar.

207 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:37:29pm

re: #192 Naso Tang

You sleep in the nude too? Glad to hear it.

Ummm...there's quite a bit between nightgowns and nudity.

208 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:37:30pm

re: #188 MandyManners

Nightgowns? Blech.

(wondering if I should make a comment about her in the "T", #181)
(wondering if I'm through living)

209 Macker  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:37:33pm

Testing new avatar...

210 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:38:09pm

re: #194 redc1c4

on both sides of the border.

Will the troops operate in Mexico? Who will be giving the orders?

211 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:38:18pm

re: #209 Macker

Too Damn Good!

212 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:39:08pm

re: #195 Honorary Yooper

IT WAS ABOUT DICTION!

213 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:39:10pm

Has this been mentioned yet?

New Charges Against Neo-Nazi Bill White

Last year was not a good one for bellicose neo-Nazi Bill White. This year could be worse. White, the founder and leader of the American National Socialist Workers Party, was indicted in Roanoke, Va., in December on seven federal counts related to making Internet and other threats. If convicted on all counts, he faces as much as 55 years in prison and $1.75 million in fines. White already was in a federal holding facility in Chicago, following his arrest in October on an obstruction of justice charge stemming from personal information he published on his website about the jury foreman in the trial of another neo-Nazi leader.

214 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:39:45pm

Gotta' tuck The Kid in. bbiab

215 kansas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:39:54pm

This guy calls himself Jazzguts on You Tube. I like his guitar work.

216 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:40:08pm

re: #206 Gus 802

Nice. And there's that slide. Kottke always knows how to get great tone out his guitar.

plays a very sweet 12 string...I'm glad you noticed with all the bitchfesting around here

217 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:40:09pm

What a surprise. Once again, negotiation overtures signal weakness:

Hizbullah deputy leader Sheik Naim Kassem said Saturday that he welcomes a new American and European approach toward the Lebanese guerrilla group. He added that his group expected new language by the West in dealing with the Iranian-backed Shi'ite Muslim group which calls for Israel's destruction.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

A certain Santayana aphorism comes to mind.

218 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:40:16pm

re: #185 Iron Fist

$450s not a bad price. Not a great price either. Of course, that depends on what you are comparing it to. Springfield Armory used to be moderate priced (and moderate quality) .45s, and these days they are up there with Colt and Kimber.

It is going to be interesting to see what happens to demand over the next year or so. If Obama spends most of his time working on outreach to the "moderate" Taliban (I'm sorry, but that freaks me the hell out. I'm ot saying what I think of it, but WTF) and I guess, the more mainstream al Qaeda people (Dick Durban, for instance) instead of gun control, then surely demand will drop off. I know that before the '94 ban you had a lot of people that had never owned a gun before buying AK-47s simply because Clinton was trying to tell them what they could and could not have.

OTOH, if Obama and the Democrats come out swinging demand will get even higher than it currently is.

around here $450 for a 1911A1 is a DAMN good price.

demand is likely to stay high simply because no one seems to trust Ear Leader but the morons who voted for him. hell, 2H6 never bought a gun until this fall, and now we're shooting High Power matches, skeet, trap, and she's looking at Sporting Clays, as well as hand gun training... she also said we need a safe just for ammo and reloading supplies.

po' me. %-)

219 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:40:19pm

re: #212 MandyManners

IT WAS ABOUT DICTION!

I know that, but the quote was by itself, and damn funny that way. :-)
Honestly, I was at work when I saw that, and burst out laughing.

220 Killian Bundy  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:41:16pm

re: #194 redc1c4

on both sides of the border.

/it'll spill over

221 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:41:22pm

re: #195 Honorary Yooper

I lost my voice there.

222 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:41:27pm

re: #210 MandyManners

Will the troops operate in Mexico? Who will be giving the orders?

Line the troops up arms length apart at the border. Every time someone violates the sovereign territory of the United States, the soldiers are ordered to take five steps forward.

223 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:41:34pm

re: #213 Sharmuta

Wasn't that the sack of trash that threatened Charles?

224 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:41:51pm

re: #223 MrPaulRevere

Yes.

225 itellu3times  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:42:13pm

re: #217 David Simon

A certain Santayana aphorism comes to mind.

An aphorism is a terrible thing to waste.

226 USBeast  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:42:16pm

Later Lizards. Tomorrow is Ye Olde Beastie's Friday and I've got to clean the crocks, change the clocks, lock the locks, wash behind my ears and go to bed. I wish you all a pleasant evening.

227 Aviator  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:42:30pm

re: #222 SteveC

Line the troops up arms length apart at the border. Every time someone violates the sovereign territory of the United States, the soldiers are ordered to take five steps forward.

They will be in Panama in a week.

228 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:42:33pm

re: #210 MandyManners

Will the troops operate in Mexico? Who will be giving the orders?

i meant the raving would occur on both sides of the borders...

no way in hell Mexico is going to allow US troops on their soil, and there's no way we should send them even if they wanted them.

229 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:42:44pm

re: #216 albusteve

Yeah, sometimes I make a pretty good horse if you know what I mean.

You like Bela Fleck?

230 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:42:50pm

re: #207 MandyManners

Ummm...there's quite a bit between nightgowns and nudity.

I'm definitely getting in over my head here. I Pass.

231 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:43:16pm

re: #161 WriterMom

I just gave it a ding.

Thanks!

232 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:43:26pm

re: #223 MrPaulRevere

Wasn't that the sack of trash that threatened Charles?

IIRC, yes. I don't recall the exact threat (maybe it's a thread somewhere), but Bill White's a real piece of work. Hope he goes away for a long, long time.

233 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:44:08pm

re: #215 kansas

This guy calls himself Jazzguts on You Tube. I like his guitar work.

[Video]

very very nice...straight forward and clean...thanks

234 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:44:15pm

re: #232 Honorary Yooper

Hope he goes away for a long, long time.

Me too.

235 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:44:52pm

re: #232 Honorary Yooper

IIRC, yes. I don't recall the exact threat (maybe it's a thread somewhere), but Bill White's a real piece of work. Hope he goes away for a long, long time.

he would have an exciting time in prison...

what a shame. %-)

236 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:45:25pm

re: #227 Aviator

They will be in Panama in a week.

"I thought this was border patrol duty. Nobody mentioned a freakin' 1000 mile dash!"

237 kansas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:45:40pm

re: #233 albusteve

You can subscribe to him. He plays a really wide variety of styles.

238 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:46:00pm

re: #204 kansas

No time to deal with international matters? Tired? We are sitting ducks. Obama is not ready to lead.

Sources close to the White House say Mr Obama and his staff have been "overwhelmed" by the economic meltdown and have voiced concerns that the new president is not getting enough rest.

British officials, meanwhile, admit that the White House and US State Department staff were utterly bemused by complaints that the Prime Minister should have been granted full-blown press conference and a formal dinner, as has been customary. They concede that Obama aides seemed unfamiliar with the expectations that surround a major visit by a British prime minister.

But Washington figures with access to Mr Obama's inner circle explained the slight by saying that those high up in the administration have had little time to deal with international matters, let alone the diplomatic niceties of the special relationship.
Allies of Mr Obama say his weary appearance in the Oval Office with Mr Brown illustrates the strain he is now under, and the president's surprise at the sheer volume of business that crosses his desk.

239 bombarafat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:46:09pm

I LOVE Andy Timmons Vibrato and the attitude his playing has.
I agree with #14 how about some Paul Gilbert.

240 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:47:24pm

Shit. I just remembered we have to set the clocks an hour ahead tonight. I lose an hour of sleep during my busiest time of year.

241 kansas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:47:26pm

re: #238 ciaospirit

Has Obama ever had a job before this?

242 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:47:46pm

re: #229 Gus 802

Yeah, sometimes I make a pretty good horse if you know what I mean.

You like Bela Fleck?

met him!...hell of a picker yep...met Sam Bush too!...I hate to keep doing that but it was my hobby for 25 yrs...saw David Grisman a coupla time too...I love all those acoustic pickers...Bela is pretty special tho

243 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:47:58pm

re: #238 ciaospirit

Sources close to the White House say Mr Obama and his staff have been "overwhelmed" by the economic meltdown and have voiced concerns that the new president is not getting enough rest.

British officials, meanwhile, admit that the White House and US State Department staff were utterly bemused by complaints that the Prime Minister should have been granted full-blown press conference and a formal dinner, as has been customary. They concede that Obama aides seemed unfamiliar with the expectations that surround a major visit by a British prime minister.

But Washington figures with access to Mr Obama's inner circle explained the slight by saying that those high up in the administration have had little time to deal with international matters, let alone the diplomatic niceties of the special relationship.
Allies of Mr Obama say his weary appearance in the Oval Office with Mr Brown illustrates the strain he is now under, and the president's surprise at the sheer volume of business that crosses his desk.

In the not so distant past they'd be throwing some extra logs on the Bush-B-Que.

244 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:48:03pm

re: #241 kansas

Has Obama ever had a job before this?

Never.

245 kansas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:48:23pm

re: #239 bombarafat

I LOVE Andy Timmons Vibrato and the attitude his playing has.
I agree with #14 how about some Paul Gilbert.

Too many notes way too fast.

246 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:48:31pm

re: #237 kansas

You can subscribe to him. He plays a really wide variety of styles.

I booked him and will surf his stuff tomarrow

247 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:49:16pm

re: #241 kansas

Has Obama ever had a job before this?

He organized his community, IIRC.

248 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:49:17pm
249 livefreeor die  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:50:02pm

re: #241 kansas

Has Obama ever had a job before this?

Supposedly although no one seems to be available to talk about his job performance. And it seems no one knows how he did in college...

250 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:50:06pm

re: #240 David Simon

Shit. I just remembered we have to set the clocks an hour ahead tonight. I lose an hour of sleep during my busiest time of year.

I have to ask, what makes early March the busiest time of the year?

251 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:50:06pm

re: #240 David Simon

Shit. I just remembered we have to set the clocks an hour ahead tonight. I lose an hour of sleep during my busiest time of year.

Damn, I almost forgot. Thanks for reminding all of us (except Hawai'i and Arizona). I hate the switch between standard and daylight savings time. Why not just do as those two states and leave it at standard time all years 'round?

252 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:50:32pm

re: #242 albusteve

Takes the banjo to an all different level. Grisman is another one. Top mandolin player -- also eclectic.

253 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:50:32pm

re: #213 Sharmuta

Wow, he's gotten fat in prison.

254 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:50:51pm

re: #236 SteveC

"I thought this was border patrol duty. Nobody mentioned a freakin' 1000 mile dash!"

The tunnels the Mexicans have built are sophisticated, extensive, and have electricity. Unbelievable that the U.S. hasn't done something about it. Maybe they will now that Geraldo says we should. //

255 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:50:58pm

re: #248 NJDhockeyfan

WTF?

Minn. state agency offers Islamic Mortgages

For houses with how many bedrooms for how many wives?

/i.e., are they "harem"

256 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:51:51pm

re: #255 pre-Boomer Marine brat

For houses with how many bedrooms for how many wives?

/i.e., are they "harem"

And the toilets all have to face Mecca?

257 Learned Mother of Zion  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:52:08pm

re: #248 NJDhockeyfan

WTF?

Minn. state agency offers Islamic Mortgages

Nawawi Sheikh is one of them. The Somali-American said he and his wife just couldn't go against their beliefs, even if it meant giving up their dream of owning a home. Still, he grew tired of moving from one rented apartment to another.

"One thing I hated was moving. I don't like to move all the time," he said.

Why did you move out of Somalia?

258 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:52:51pm

re: #241 kansas

Has Obama ever had a job before this?

Not sure, but he would have made one hell of a used car salesmen...


/S

259 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:53:10pm

re: #241 kansas

Has Obama ever had a job before this?

Community Organizer...they make their own hours. Work when they want to. Or not.

260 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:53:27pm

re: #254 ciaospirit

The tunnels the Mexicans have built are sophisticated, extensive, and have electricity. Unbelievable that the U.S. hasn't done something about it. Maybe they will now that Geraldo says we should. //

I say we invade Mexico and get some payback...Villa burned Columbus to the ground and I'm still pissed

261 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:53:33pm

This is rich

‘Animal House’ Party Days Are Over for U.S. Banks: John Kerry

I believe we have to insist that tax dollars be spent wisely because, otherwise, Americans will refuse to rescue any business struggling in the most difficult economic times since the Great Depression. And believe me, Americans struggling to hold onto their homes and their jobs are already tired of picking up the newspaper and reading about idiotic abuses of taxpayer money.

Pot calling the kettle black...hey John, this includes you and your merry gang of thieves.

262 livefreeor die  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:53:37pm

re: #238 ciaospirit

No time to deal with international matters? Tired? We are sitting ducks. Obama is not ready to lead.

The story quotes "sources close to the White House".
Want to be the sources' names rhyme with Minton.

263 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:53:44pm

re: #258 Dustyvet

Wasn't he that "temp" in the Senate?

//

264 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:53:56pm

re: #256 NJDhockeyfan

And the toilets all have to face Mecca?

Rather than face AWAY?
Undoubtedly.

265 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:54:06pm
266 little boomer  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:54:18pm

re: #248 NJDhockeyfan

WTF?

Minn. state agency offers Islamic Mortgages

The freakin' interest is added up front into the mortgage! What a bunch of Koranic Moroons! As if that evades interest!

267 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:54:19pm

re: #248 NJDhockeyfan

WTF?

Minn. state agency offers Islamic Mortgages

What happened to separation of C & S?

268 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:54:47pm

re: #253 Killgore Trout

Maybe the prison gym just isn't nazi friendly.

269 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:55:23pm

re: #238 ciaospirit

I love this part:

Allies of Mr Obama say his weary appearance in the Oval Office with Mr Brown illustrates the strain he is now under, and the president's surprise at the sheer volume of business that crosses his desk.

According to one of his addresses, he gets tens of thousands of letters every day, and his staff sifts through them all and picks ten for him to read. And "three of them are always about health care." (Could it be that his staff have an agenda? Or that he's full of shit, and HE has an agenda?) So, if he's so tired, why is he wasting time reading letters?

270 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:55:26pm

re: #264 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Rather than face AWAY?
Undoubtedly.

There has got to be a pun in there someplace///:)

271 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:55:33pm

re: #252 Gus 802

Takes the banjo to an all different level. Grisman is another one. Top mandolin player -- also eclectic.

good mandolin players are very rare and Grisman is the very best on a fame level...but go to a good bluegrass festival and the pickers will blow you away

272 livefreeor die  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:55:43pm

re: #261 jorline

This is rich

‘Animal House’ Party Days Are Over for U.S. Banks: John Kerry
I believe we have to insist that tax dollars be spent wisely because, otherwise, Americans will refuse to rescue any business struggling in the most difficult economic times since the Great Depression. And believe me, Americans struggling to hold onto their homes and their jobs are already tired of picking up the newspaper and reading about idiotic abuses of taxpayer money.

Pot calling the kettle black...hey John, this includes you and your merry gang of thieves.


That's rich-a Massachusetts politician complaining about "idiotic abuses of taxpayer money".

273 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:55:53pm

Tony Rice - Freeborn Man

Tony Rice guitar , Jerry Douglas dobro , Sam Bush mandolin , Mark O'Connor fiddle and Béla Fleck on banjo.

O'Connor played with the Dixie Dregs (Steve Morse) for a time. Studio player.

This is bluegrass.

274 Wishing  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:56:28pm

re: #266 little boomer

Koranic Moroons

ROFL

275 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:56:48pm

re: #261 jorline

This is rich

‘Animal House’ Party Days Are Over for U.S. Banks: John Kerry

One of my better female friends is a banker. I need to drop by the bank more, maybe I'll walk into a toga party!

/May I caress your thighs while you eat?

276 kansas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:57:08pm

Regular Mortage
House costs 200,000 at 6 % payment 1182 a month for 30 years
Islamic Mortgage
Same house you pay 425,000 and pay 1182 a month for 30 years

Yeah, that makes sense. Early payoff might be a problem.

277 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:57:30pm

re: #270 Dustyvet

There has got to be a pun in there someplace///:)

GAH!
Just what I needed -- a stool pigeon.

And with that pun, I shall say good night to all ... and depart.
/please don't cheer

278 Learned Mother of Zion  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:57:36pm

re: #269 David Simon

I love this part:

According to one of his addresses, he gets tens of thousands of letters every day, and his staff sifts through them all and picks ten for him to read. And "three of them are always about health care." (Could it be that his staff have an agenda? Or that he's full of shit, and HE has an agenda?) So, if he's so tired, why is he wasting time reading letters?

Who is mailing all these letters, and who is paying for the stamps?

279 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:57:41pm

re: #261 jorline

This is rich

‘Animal House’ Party Days Are Over for U.S. Banks: John Kerry

Pot calling the kettle black...hey John, this includes you and your merry gang of thieves.

ha!...how can any one person be so dense...Kery is the problem not the solution...I'd love to tell him that to his face...I hate the feds

280 Sunlight  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:57:45pm

Don't forget to spring forward your clocks tonight in the U.S.!

281 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:57:53pm

re: #271 albusteve

Yep. Don't have to be famous to be good.

282 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:58:21pm

re: #255 pre-Boomer Marine brat

For houses with how many bedrooms for how many wives?

/i.e., are they "harem"

Two question I would have for the people in the article:

First, why do they have to keep moving from one rental to another?

Second, the only difference between a conventional mortgage and an "Islamic" mortgage is that the Islamics pay all the interest up front (presumably discounted for future value) and then are told that the monthly payments are just paying the principal. This is a beautiful example of cognitive dissonance.

The article however is tediously politically correct in avoiding any attempt to explain the details of the differences.

283 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:58:40pm

re: #261 jorline

This is rich

‘Animal House’ Party Days Are Over for U.S. Banks: John Kerry

Pot calling the kettle black...hey John, this includes you and your merry gang of thieves.

He must have missed that the union big shits are having a "conference" right now at a Miami resort.

Union Leaders Head to the Beach

284 Gitarzan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:58:44pm

re: #213 Sharmuta

Has this been mentioned yet?

New Charges Against Neo-Nazi Bill White

I hate to wish harm on someone, but if something unfortunate happened to Bill White and his fellow racist thugs in prison, I wouldn't shed a tear...

285 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:59:07pm

re: #284 talon_262

I hear ya!

286 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:59:08pm

re: #267 ciaospirit

What happened to separation of C & S?

For many Minnesota Muslims, it's been virtually impossible to buy a home, because Islamic law forbids the paying or charging of interest.

Do they have any breaks for Lutherans?

287 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:59:28pm

Arkansas State Pep band plays Soulfinger:

288 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:59:53pm

re: #248 NJDhockeyfan

WTF?

Minn. state agency offers Islamic Mortgages

Islam forbids the payment or receipt of interest, so loans have to be specially arranged to be consistent with Islamic law.

It all boils down to the fact that they pay interest, but it's never called interest.

289 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 7:59:53pm

re: #241 kansas

Has Obama ever had a job before this?

Well, let's see: he's been a part-time law lecturer, a community organizer (a fancy term for troublemaker) and he's run for higher and higher office. I suppose there'a job in there somewhere.

290 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:00:27pm

re: #286 jorline

Do they have any breaks for Lutherans?

Southern Baptists? We're sure to be a minority in Minnesota!

291 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:00:47pm

re: #273 Gus 802

Tony Rice - Freeborn Man


[Video]

Tony Rice guitar , Jerry Douglas dobro , Sam Bush mandolin , Mark O'Connor fiddle and Béla Fleck on banjo.

O'Connor played with the Dixie Dregs (Steve Morse) for a time. Studio player.

This is bluegrass.

heh...there you have it...very nice

292 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:01:25pm

re: #272 livefreeor die

That's rich-a Massachusetts politician complaining about "idiotic abuses of taxpayer money".

The whole lot of them are clueless .

293 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:01:37pm

re: #250 Naso Tang

I have to ask, what makes early March the busiest time of the year?

I'm a tax accountant.

294 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:01:58pm

re: #286 jorline

Do they have any breaks for Lutherans?

Lutherans are not allowed breaks. They cause too much pleasure.

295 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:02:22pm

re: #291 albusteve

Tony Rice is one of my favorite flat pickers. Great singer too.

296 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:03:01pm

re: #293 David Simon

I'm a tax accountant.

I should have known that, but it's midnight and I always get an extension and have mine done around July.

297 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:03:30pm

re: #283 ciaospirit

He must have missed that the union big shits are having a "conference" right now at a Miami resort.

Union Leaders Head to the Beach

"It's fine for 'good' union leaders to live it up, it's those 'bad' bankers who must be brought low."

-Moonbat

298 BigAl  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:03:45pm

Circuses! I guess we need them now.

Not good... in the face of impending catastropy.

299 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:04:16pm

re: #298 BigAl

Circuses! I guess we need them now.

We're low on bread. :(

300 Gitarzan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:04:31pm

re: #298 BigAl

Circuses! I guess we need them now.

Not good... in the face of impending catastropy.

And bread...don't forget the bread!

/

301 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:04:41pm

Andy Timmons!?!?!?

OH ,,, THATs why,, I thought it was Richard Simmons. I had put on my Gay WorkOut Outfit !

NOT that there's anything wrong with that !

//

302 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:05:10pm

re: #251 Honorary Yooper

Damn, I almost forgot. Thanks for reminding all of us (except Hawai'i and Arizona). I hate the switch between standard and daylight savings time. Why not just do as those two states and leave it at standard time all years 'round?

That settles it, I'm moving to Hawaii or Arizona. It's bad enough to put up with Chicago winters and the traffic. The time change is just one more bit of bullshit I don't need in my life.

303 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:05:19pm

re: #295 Gus 802

Tony Rice is one of my favorite flat pickers. Great singer too.

hell of a band up there you posted...thanks

304 BigAl  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:05:26pm

WTF is no bread?

305 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:05:31pm

re: #288 gmsc

Islam forbids the payment or receipt of interest, so loans have to be specially arranged to be consistent with Islamic law.

It all boils down to the fact that they pay interest, but it's never called interest.

Just another service from the State Of Minnesota, Land Of The Liberal Loon and 10,000 Treatment Centers!

/S

306 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:07:19pm

re: #303 albusteve

Cool. Here's a more current video of Tony Rice. Almost sounds classical.

307 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:07:35pm

re: #257 Alouette

Why did you move out of Somalia?

So that someone else would pay for the clitorectomies?

308 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:07:59pm

re: #302 David Simon

That settles it, I'm moving to Hawaii or Arizona. It's bad enough to put up with Chicago winters and the traffic. The time change is just one more bit of bullshit I don't need in my life.

if you can't cope with the time change you need to punt amigo...it is a small thing

309 Bob Dillon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:08:20pm

re: #152 albusteve

Thx

310 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:08:41pm

I can't do that.

Hi Folks.

Spring forward.

311 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:09:28pm

re: #306 Gus 802

Cool. Here's a more current video of Tony Rice. Almost sounds classical.


[Video]

it is in a hybrid sort of way

312 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:09:54pm

re: #261 jorline

This is rich

‘Animal House’ Party Days Are Over for U.S. Banks: John Kerry

Indeed, lol.

313 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:10:02pm

re: #298 BigAl

Circuses! I guess we need them now.

Not good... in the face of impending catastropy.

“The budget should be balanced. Public debt should be reduced. The arrogance of officialdom should be tempered, and assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome become bankrupt.”

Marcus Tullius Cicero

314 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:10:03pm

re: #305 Dustyvet

Just another service from the State Of Minnesota, Land Of The Liberal Loon and 10,000 Treatment Centers!

/S

It's wacky, and I suspect the Islamist purists are the ones who get shafted in fees or interest calculations that that they don't want to investigate (see no evil, hear no evil, etc.), but I'll bet you there will be a lawsuit soon enough by someone claiming overcharging, and then the word "interest" will be spoken.

315 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:11:35pm

re: #298 BigAl

Circuses! I guess we need them now.

Not good... in the face of impending catastropy.

Well, if we're going to have circuses, can we throw some of our trolls to the lions?

316 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:11:41pm

re: #269 David Simon

I love this part:

According to one of his addresses, he gets tens of thousands of letters every day, and his staff sifts through them all and picks ten for him to read. And "three of them are always about health care." (Could it be that his staff have an agenda? Or that he's full of shit, and HE has an agenda?) So, if he's so tired, why is he wasting time reading letters?

Yeah, and recently Obama said in one of his speeches that every 30 seconds an American family loses their home due to health care costs. Of course, no one, including Obama officials, can verify that stat.

317 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:11:52pm

I just saw this clip on TV. It's Herb Parson shooting 7 clay pigeons with a pump action shotgun.

318 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:12:39pm

re: #251 Honorary Yooper

Damn, I almost forgot. Thanks for reminding all of us (except Hawai'i and Arizona). I hate the switch between standard and daylight savings time. Why not just do as those two states and leave it at standard time all years 'round?

better idea: why not leave it on Daylight as the new standard time?

319 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:13:06pm

re: #305 Dustyvet

Just another service from the State Of Minnesota, Land Of The Liberal Loon and 10,000 Treatment Centers!

/S

from the article:

Here's how the mortgage, known as Murabaha financing or "cost plus sale," works:

The state buys a home and resells it to the buyer at a higher price. The down payment and monthly installments are agreed to up front at current mortgage rates.

The deal is identical to a thirty-year fixed-rate loan, except there's no additional interest, because the higher up front price factors in payments that would have been made over the life of a traditional mortgage.

The state buys the home to resell under conditions required by this religion? The state?

320 yesandno  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:13:15pm

re: #238 ciaospirit

No time to deal with international matters? Tired? We are sitting ducks. Obama is not ready to lead.

Maybe he will have to do away with the late night parties...or maybe the back and forth from Washington to other parts of the US in "campaign" mode. Time for him to sit down and do a day's work.

He thinks looking busy is the same as being busy. This man has more advisors then ants in a hill and all he wants is to be in power and let other's do the work. Sorry he is tired...I'm tired too...

...of him.

321 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:13:20pm

Brooks and Dunn: Rock my world little country girl.

The girl in shorts and boots is Megan Harper, who somehow scored a .55 on a DUI test. That has to be some kind of record!

322 BigAl  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:13:25pm

re: #313 Dustyvet

“The budget should be balanced. Public debt should be reduced. The arrogance of officialdom should be tempered, and assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome become bankrupt.”

Marcus Tullius Cicero

What goes around, comes around...Doesn't help my outlook.

323 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:13:42pm

re: #318 redc1c4

better idea: why not leave it on Daylight as the new standard time?

northerners like a little more daylight in the summer...what's the big deal?

324 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:14:05pm

re: #315 Dark_Falcon

Well, if we're going to have circuses, can we throw some of our trolls to the lions?

Loins not like trolls, the Bears love them...:)


/s

325 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:14:25pm

re: #315 Dark_Falcon

Well, if we're going to have circuses, can we throw some of our trolls to the lions?

No, because they'd beat the crap out of the Lions, just as does everyone else.

326 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:14:46pm

re: #319 reine.de.tout

The state buys the home to resell under conditions required by this religion? The state?

Something fishy about this whole thing.

327 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:15:40pm

re: #308 albusteve

if you can't cope with the time change you need to punt amigo...it is a small thing

If you can't recognize an obviously sarcastic comment...ah, never mind.

328 melinwy  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:15:45pm

re: #319 reine.de.tout

The state buys the home to resell under conditions required by this religion? The state?

great catch!

329 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:15:58pm

re: #325 Honorary Yooper

No, because they'd beat the crap out of the Lions, just as does everyone else.

Very true, thank you.

330 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:16:25pm

re: #326 NJDhockeyfan

From what I understand it's not about religion. It boils down to the terms and conditions of the loan. I don't know the specifics. It's actually harder to qualify if they're following the original intent. Much harder than the Fannie and Freddie Mac qualifications.

331 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:16:37pm

re: #327 David Simon

If you can't recognize an obviously sarcastic comment...ah, never mind.

cool...people have been bitching about this every time...I missed the sarc

332 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:17:17pm

re: #320 yesandno

Maybe he will have to do away with the late night parties...or maybe the back and forth from Washington to other parts of the US in "campaign" mode. Time for him to sit down and do a day's work.

He thinks looking busy is the same as being busy. This man has more advisors then ants in a hill and all he wants is to be in power and let other's do the work. Sorry he is tired...I'm tired too...

...of him.

Yesterday, he took his big fat carbon footprint to Columbus, OH, just to pat himself on the back for saving, get this, 25 jobs! The stimulus is working!

333 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:17:44pm

re: #322 BigAl

What goes around, comes around...Doesn't help my outlook.

“The biggest difference between ancient Rome and the USA is that in Rome the common man was treated like a dog. In America he sets the tone. This is the first country where the common man could stand erect.”

I. F. Stone

334 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:19:03pm

re: #279 albusteve

ha!...how can any one person be so dense...Kery is the problem not the solution...I'd love to tell him that to his face...I hate the feds

How are you albusteve?

I'm so fucking tired of these clowns. They all think we're dumb asses...part of their thought process is correct, they always get returned to office.

335 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:19:25pm

re: #319 reine.de.tout

The state buys the home to resell under conditions required by this religion? The state?

Perhaps a lawsuit would be in order. If this practice violates the First Amendment (and I think it does), then the proper remedy is to get it ruled unconstitutional. There'll be some seething involved, but nothing that can't be taken care of with a good riot squad and some vigorous counter protests .

336 yesandno  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:19:38pm

re: #332 ciaospirit

Yesterday, he took his big fat carbon footprint to Columbus, OH, just to pat himself on the back for saving, get this, 25 jobs! The stimulus is working!

Oh...and they were GOVERNMENT jobs...police I think. Not one job in the private sector.

Wonder if he had sent the cost of the trip aboard AF1, if they could have hired one or two more people...ya think?

337 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:20:11pm

re: #328 melinwy

great catch!

God forbid there should be any Jewish or Christian displays on public property at holiday times - God forbid there should be a cross in the seal of a town named "Las Cruces". But if you are Muslim, the state will buy a home and sell it to you.

This is not right at all.

338 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:20:24pm

re: #316 ciaospirit

Yeah, and recently Obama said in one of his speeches that every 30 seconds an American family loses their home due to health care costs. Of course, no one, including Obama officials, can verify that stat.

My quick calculation makes that about 1 million homes (or moves) per year, but as you point out, it would seem impossible to attribute that to health care reasons alone, since there are no records kept of the details of all financial problems people may have, yet.

This claim stinks of something.

339 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:20:25pm

re: #330 Gus 802

From what I understand it's not about religion. It boils down to the terms and conditions of the loan. I don't know the specifics. It's actually harder to qualify if they're following the original intent. Much harder than the Fannie and Freddie Mac qualifications.

If someone pay off the loan early they don't benefit from paying less interest. Seems to me the Islamic Mortgage is great for the bank because all the interest is paid upfront.

340 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:20:27pm

re: #319 reine.de.tout

The state buys the home? OK, now that's different than I previously understood. That kills the deal in my mind.

341 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:20:37pm

re: #330 Gus 802

From what I understand it's not about religion. It boils down to the terms and conditions of the loan. I don't know the specifics. It's actually harder to qualify if they're following the original intent. Much harder than the Fannie and Freddie Mac qualifications.

It is precisely about religion.

342 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:21:23pm

re: #333 Dustyvet

“The biggest difference between ancient Rome and the USA is that in Rome the common man was treated like a dog. In America he sets the tone. This is the first country where the common man could stand erect.”

I. F. Stone

Stone was a Marxist. If he'd had his way, the common man here would have been treated worse than we treat our dogs.

Source: Useful Idiots, Mona Charen

343 BigAl  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:22:12pm

Gettin' late for me here on the left coast. I'm thiinkin' how many of my lib friends lost sleep over Bush's mangled syntax? None. How many are losing sleep over Obama's rush to socialism? I dare to say...many!

With that bon soir..

344 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:22:20pm

re: #341 ciaospirit

Well, it doesn't really have to be. Yes, it's a process that evolved from Islamic culture. But if viewed from a secular point of view and it works there's no reason to reject it and secularize it. IMO

345 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:22:29pm

re: #283 ciaospirit

He must have missed that the union big shits are having a "conference" right now at a Miami resort.

Union Leaders Head to the Beach

I'm sure he received an engraved invitation...Biden was the keynote speaker on Friday...party time.

Partying with the bailout taxpayers money.

346 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:24:12pm

re: #335 Dark_Falcon

Perhaps a lawsuit would be in order. If this practice violates the First Amendment (and I think it does), then the proper remedy is to get it ruled unconstitutional. There'll be some seething involved, but nothing that can't be taken care of with a good riot squad and some vigorous counter protests .

No, here's how the "seething" ends up:
MUSLIMS RIOT at Israel's Davis Cup Match in Sweden

Sweden forced the Israeli Davis Cup tennis team to play in an empty stadium due to threats of violence by local radicals.
But that didn't stop them from attacking the stadium.
Thousands of protesters attacked police at the Davis Cup Match today between Israel and Sweden.
The UPI reported on today's violence:

Thousands of people demonstrated Saturday during Israel-Sweden Davis Cup play in Malmo, Sweden, to protest the invasion of Gaza.

Police estimated the crowd of protesters at 6,000, The Local reported. About 1,000 officers were on duty on the ground and in helicopters.

Most of those at the Stop the Match march were peaceful but police said some young people rushed the barricades and threw rocks with about five arrested, the BBC reported.

Sweden won doubles play Saturday, giving it a 2-1 lead over Israel.

This week - Sweden banned the Israeli Taekwondo team from even entering the country because, the gov't said, "Ten thousand members of a Muslim organization are threatening to settle the account with you because of the war in Gaza."

347 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:24:21pm

re: #345 jorline

I'm sure he received an engraved invitation...Biden was the keynote speaker on Friday...party time.

Partying with the bailout taxpayers money.

A little something for Biden...


Image: 57457E.jpg

348 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:24:34pm

re: #294 Naso Tang

Lutherans are not allowed breaks. They cause too much pleasure.

I'm inviting you to out next pot luck dinner...just bring more beer.

349 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:25:06pm

re: #339 NJDhockeyfan

The interest rate is lower? Overall?

350 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:25:23pm

re: #316 ciaospirit

Yeah, and recently Obama said in one of his speeches that every 30 seconds an American family loses their home due to health care costs. Of course, no one, including Obama officials, can verify that stat.

bwaha, I forgot that part. Indeed. No one ever challenges him on any of his bullshit.

So what's he really saying? That people choose to pay for healthcare instead of rent? The fact is, if you're provided with health care you can't afford, all you have to do is not pay the bill. Illegal aliens have figured it out. That's why hospital emergency rooms are their de facto primary care physicians.

351 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:25:57pm

re: #348 jorline

I'm inviting you to out next pot luck dinner...just bring more beer.

Oh boy deviled eggs, potato salad, and hot dish...:) Yummy's

352 albusteve  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:26:00pm

re: #334 jorline

How are you albusteve?

I'm so fucking tired of these clowns. They all think we're dumb asses...part of their thought process is correct, they always get returned to office.

going broke bro...yes we are being seriously victimized here

353 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:26:28pm

re: #336 yesandno

Oh...and they were GOVERNMENT jobs...police I think. Not one job in the private sector.

Wonder if he had sent the cost of the trip aboard AF1, if they could have hired one or two more people...ya think?

Yes, it's police officers. Yes, they could have hired a few more with the money spent on this "praise me I'm the Obama" trip. It also cost the city of Columbus over $100,000 for security. Not only that, the new jobs are only good for ONE YEAR. After that, the stimulus funding is gone.

354 livefreeor die  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:27:29pm

re: #320 yesandno

Maybe he will have to do away with the late night parties...or maybe the back and forth from Washington to other parts of the US in "campaign" mode. Time for him to sit down and do a day's work.

He thinks looking busy is the same as being busy. This man has more advisors then ants in a hill and all he wants is to be in power and let other's do the work. Sorry he is tired...I'm tired too...

...of him.

He's reminding me of the parents who sign up to co-chair a PTO committee, suggest a lot of involved projects, and then bail after a month because "It's too much time for me."

355 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:27:47pm

re: #346 reine.de.tout

This week - Sweden banned the Israeli Taekwondo team from even entering the country because, the gov't said, "Ten thousand members of a Muslim organization are threatening to settle the account with you because of the war in Gaza."

!0,000 rioters? Well, that would up the ante. Still, its nothing an AC-130 couldn't attend to. Maybe a couple helos with miniguns. Not too hard.

356 capitalist piglet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:28:29pm

re: #343 BigAl

Gettin' late for me here on the left coast. I'm thiinkin' how many of my lib friends lost sleep over Bush's mangled syntax? None. How many are losing sleep over Obama's rush to socialism? I dare to say...many!

With that bon soir..

It's even better than that. Our new King is "overwhelmed", according to a story on HotAir.

He thought being President of the United States was going to be easy. I mean, what do you have to do besides read and get your picture taken?

357 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:29:36pm

re: #347 Dustyvet

A little something for Biden...

[Link: www.discovertechnology.com...]

Isn't that the same model the Code Pinkers were using a couple of months ago at some Congressman's marina?

358 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:30:28pm

re: #347 Dustyvet

A little something for Biden...

[Link: www.discovertechnology.com...]

You got the number for that website?

//

359 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:30:38pm

re: #357 jorline

Isn't that the same model the Code Pinkers were using a couple of months ago at some Congressman's marina?

No idea...I was really looking for the one with the hosie on the life ring...:)

360 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:30:59pm

re: #352 albusteve

going broke bro...yes we are being seriously victimized here

I hear ya my friend.

361 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:31:16pm

re: #337 reine.de.tout

God forbid there should be any Jewish or Christian displays on public property at holiday times - God forbid there should be a cross in the seal of a town named "Las Cruces". But if you are Muslim, the state will buy a home and sell it to you.

This is not right at all.

What I don't understand is what the state has to do with it, beyond possibly recognizing the legalities involved.

I am suspicious of the detail accuracy of the article posted. The reporter obviously was ignorant and just repeating some quotes.

Frankly, if you came to me and said you wanted to buy a house from me on terms, but you wanted an agreement that didn't mention the word "interest", I would be happy to comply. The asking price is X, I do an amortization over Y years at Z interest, then take out the interest portion of the payments, discount the total for future value, add that to the X price and throw in a bit for good measure and overheads (wink, wink), then level out the principal payments per month to make them equal (and give more upfront for me), and presto we have a sale that has no "interest mentioned".

Sucker.

362 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:31:52pm

re: #341 ciaospirit

It is precisely about religion.


geez, I hope I'm not letting the 'cat out of the bag'
/

Here is info on this 'Murabaha Financing' Your text to link...

363 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:32:18pm

Good evening y'all - how is everyone this fine evening?
And btw, fwliw, I agree with Charles, this Andy Timmons is a MONSTER!

364 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:33:04pm

re: #363 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone this fine evening?
And btw, fwliw, I agree with Charles, this Andy Timmons is a MONSTER!


SHOCKA !

//

365 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:33:32pm

re: #363 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone this fine evening?
And btw, fwliw, I agree with Charles, this Andy Timmons is a MONSTER!


(((real)))
All's well in my neck of the woods!

366 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:34:06pm

Hey RW...good to see you.

367 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:34:31pm

re: #363 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone this fine evening?
And btw, fwliw, I agree with Charles, this Andy Timmons is a MONSTER!

I'm very tired. I had another 10 hour shift today. My feet hurt like hell, and I'm out of Alleve.

368 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:35:54pm

Think I'll go lay down for awhile. NyQuils' starting to kick in.

369 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:36:29pm

re: #368 sattv4u2

Think I'll go lay down for awhile. NyQuils' starting to kick in.

Happy spring forward!

370 swamprat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:36:34pm

Just picked up bho's book in walmart. Thumbed to the middle, looking for inspiration, or insight, whatever... He was ranting about how Bush didn't tax enough. At least, that's how I read it. I was too afraid to read more to try to get the context.

"You're in a tailspin!"
"I know, that's why added more power!"
"Shouldn't you pull up soon?"
"What do you mean?...MORE POWER, I NEED MORE POWER!"

371 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:36:47pm

re: #368 sattv4u2

Think I'll go lay down for awhile. NyQuils' starting to kick in.


Rest well, sattv4u2, hope your better. real soon!

372 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:37:23pm

Honestly, this mortgage bailout crap has me fuming. As a renter that would get kicked out on the street if I don't pay every month it adds to my frustration. When I think about the taxes that will go to help these putzes... pisses me off.

373 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:37:46pm

re: #361 Naso Tang

What I don't understand is what the state has to do with it, beyond possibly recognizing the legalities involved.

I am suspicious of the detail accuracy of the article posted. The reporter obviously was ignorant and just repeating some quotes.

Frankly, if you came to me and said you wanted to buy a house from me on terms, but you wanted an agreement that didn't mention the word "interest", I would be happy to comply. The asking price is X, I do an amortization over Y years at Z interest, then take out the interest portion of the payments, discount the total for future value, add that to the X price and throw in a bit for good measure and overheads (wink, wink), then level out the principal payments per month to make them equal (and give more upfront for me), and presto we have a sale that has no "interest mentioned".

Sucker.

I was just going by what the story said, and the part I cut and pasted said the state buys the home, goes through all the stuff you mentioned (well, something similar!), then sells the house to the person.

If that's the case, it is wrong for the state to be involved. If it was a private bank or other concern, or you as a private citizen - no problem. But the state should not be the purchasing these homes and holding the "note".

374 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:38:25pm

re: #365 outsidephilly
Hey outsidephilly - good to see you too! How y'all doing tonight?

375 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:39:11pm

re: #366 jorline
Hey jorline - how are ya tonight? How's business been at your restaurant lately?

376 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:39:13pm

re: #373 reine.de.tout

I was just going by what the story said, and the part I cut and pasted said the state buys the home, goes through all the stuff you mentioned (well, something similar!), then sells the house to the person.

If that's the case, it is wrong for the state to be involved. If it was a private bank or other concern, or you as a private citizen - no problem. But the state should not be the purchasing these homes and holding the "note".

See my #362 for the link to this 'financing' option -- very interesting

377 livefreeor die  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:39:53pm

Gee, Bush never said he was overwhelmed. Was that because he was so stupid?
/

378 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:39:59pm

re: #349 Gus 802

The interest rate is lower? Overall?

The article doesnt say. I would assume the bank would figure out the loan using the current rate. For example, a $200,000 house at 6% would end up costing a total of $431,677.04 if you paid the minimum payment ($1199.10) over 30 years. I am guessing that's the price the Islamic Mortgage program will figure out the payment from. If you paid an extra $200 every 2 mortgage payments you would have paid a total of $182,705.26 and paid off your mortgage on 295 months instead of 360. If you pay all the interest upfront you wont save any money on the interest.

I don't see the benefits of the Islamic Mortgage program.

379 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:40:01pm

re: #373 reine.de.tout

I agree, but I am not convinced the article was accurate. I think there are big problems even in Minnesota with the state buying houses to resell. Something smells here.

380 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:41:08pm

re: #367 Dark_Falcon
Say, Dark_Falcon - don't know why you're feet are so tired, but if you're out of Alleve and need some to reduce inflamation, try Advil - if you have it.
If not, try soaking your feet in Epson salts and warm water.

381 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:41:14pm

Hey, this leap forward is hitting home already. I think it's my bedtime even though it doesn't happen 'till 2 am.

Goodnight.

382 yesandno  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:41:49pm

re: #347 Dustyvet

A little something for Biden...


[Link: www.discovertechnology.com...]

Does it fit in the bathtub?

Cause then it could, like, go down the drain...

383 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:42:49pm

Good Evening Everyone.

I just got finished watching a great film from the 80's about a racism and animals. The film was never released in the US until Criterion made a DVD out of it in December 2008. The film is called White Dog, directed by Samuel Fuller and it stars Burl Ives, Kristy McNickol, and Paul Winfield.

White Dog

384 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:42:52pm

re: #378 NJDhockeyfan

Right. I was thinking so my guess would be that the state more than likely would pay the interest. The state meaning the taxpayers and somehow or another it would probably be funded with Federal tax revenues. IOW, socialized mortgage interest payments. There's no way someone in foreclosure can afford to pay that kind of interest -- allegedly. The reason I say allegedly is because a lot of "home owners" are scamming the system as we speak in order to get the soon to come Federal mortgage assistance monies.

385 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:43:04pm

re: #378 NJDhockeyfan

I don't see the benefits of the Islamic Mortgage program.

I suspect the benefit is getting the Islamic mindset ingrained into our society.

386 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:43:16pm

re: #375 realwest

Hey jorline - how are ya tonight? How's business been at your restaurant lately?

I can't complain, RW. We're up 68% since we bought the business and 40% over the same time last year.

The wolves are still nipping at my heels and I worry about the future. I guess that comes with owning the business...the Ambian severs several purposes...lol

387 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:44:02pm

re: #383 Afrocity

Good Evening Everyone.

I just got finished watching a great film from the 80's about a racism and animals. The film was never released in the US until Criterion made a DVD out of it in December 2008. The film is called White Dog, directed by Samuel Fuller and it stars Burl Ives, Kristy McNickol, and Paul Winfield.

White Dog


good evening to you, also!

388 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:44:12pm

re: #372 Gus 802
Yo, I hear that! I'm philosophically against the mortgage bail out anyway - just spawning more and more folks who will believe in the Nanny State and that however stupid their decisions are, they won't be held accountable for them.But renters? Feh, no one gives a shit.

389 kahall  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:44:39pm
This guy is a monster.

That sounds better than "Andy is the Man." Rock on...

390 mikeymom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:44:41pm

good eveming all- late to thread but god=dawumm-that video got some parts of me tingling! thx charles! how is e-one on this fine nite?

391 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:44:41pm

re: #372 Gus 802

Honestly, this mortgage bailout crap has me fuming. As a renter that would get kicked out on the street if I don't pay every month it adds to my frustration. When I think about the taxes that will go to help these putzes... pisses me off.

Yep. And not only that, you've never used your apartment as a fucking ATM machine. Total BS.

392 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:45:54pm

re: #380 realwest

Say, Dark_Falcon - don't know why you're feet are so tired, but if you're out of Alleve and need some to reduce inflamation, try Advil - if you have it.
If not, try soaking your feet in Epson salts and warm water.

My feet hurt because I have to stand all day. The Epson ssalts idea is a good one, I'll try it.

393 livefreeor die  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:47:12pm

Good night all! I have to feed the baby and I'm going to start reading "Atlas Shrugged". One up side to late night feedings is I catch up on my reading!

394 Silvergirl  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:47:13pm

re: #356 capitalist piglet

It's even better than that. Our new King is "overwhelmed", according to a story on HotAir.

He thought being President of the United States was going to be easy. I mean, what do you have to do besides read and get your picture taken?

I read that one too. He blames his Gordon Brown goof-ups on being overwhelmed.

395 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:47:23pm

re: #388 realwest

Yo, I hear that! I'm philosophically against the mortgage bail out anyway - just spawning more and more folks who will believe in the Nanny State and that however stupid their decisions are, they won't be held accountable for them.But renters? Feh, no one gives a shit.

They sure don't. Business is slow right now, really slow. And right now I'm late for my rent because I'm waiting for a check. Well into the last day. It just so happens that I know the owners and the manager very well. Guess where I would be if that weren't the case: out on the street. Well, perhaps to some dive nonetheless. It's a pay as you go system when you rent something that apparently doesn't apply to Federally subsidized mortgage holders many of which got into homes they could never afford had they applied for a mortgage and told the truth.

396 mikeymom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:47:26pm

re: #392 Dark_Falcon

My feet hurt because I have to stand all day. The Epson ssalts idea is a good one, I'll try it.

if you give me a nice bailout, i'll come in person and give you a very nice--foot massage! j/k 41 yrs married here!

397 Killer Tomato  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:47:52pm

re: #388 realwest

I'm waiting for the 'fools who only bought a small home they could actually afford on a 30 year fixed VA loan, bailout'.
Should be any day now...
/

398 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:47:57pm

re: #376 outsidephilly

See my #362 for the link to this 'financing' option -- very interesting

I saw it.
It was interesting, indeed.

According to that article:

In an Islamic mortgage transaction, instead of loaning the buyer money to purchase the item, a bank might buy the item itself from the seller, and re-sell it to the buyer at a profit, while allowing the buyer to pay the bank in installments. However, the fact that it is profit cannot be made explicit and therefore there are no additional penalties for late payment. In order to protect itself against default, the bank asks for strict collateral. The goods or land is registered to the name of the buyer from the start of the transaction. This arrangement is called Murabaha.

So if the state is using this form of Islamic mortgage to help Muslims buy homes, the homes will be shown as state properties until they are paid for.

If they need to establish their own system of banks or credit unions in order to purchase homes, well that's fine and dandy.

But to have the state involved in this is just wrong, imo.

399 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:48:29pm

re: #391 David Simon

I know. I've been in my place for a while. I think I've paid over 50,000 over the years in rent. Zero equity. Not that I'm demanding equity for paying rent it just puts thing in perspective.

400 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:49:08pm

re: #378 NJDhockeyfan
Not only that, but if it isn't called "interest" then it's not deductible from your income taxes (the interest portion I mean) and most everyone I know, when they're buying a house, figures out how much it'll cost them, NET OF INCOME TAXES based on the interest they pay. And in NYC, for example, that interest deduction works on your fed return, which spills over into you State income taxes and NYC income taxes.
With this quasi-Sharia, I don't see where you get any deductions on those income taxes for the "interest you're not paying".

401 mikeymom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:49:23pm

re: #396 mikeymom

i think ive had enuf wine-when i read what wrote, i thought it said a "big enough ballout"--good lord!

402 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:49:37pm

re: #393 livefreeor die

Good night all! I have to feed the baby and I'm going to start reading "Atlas Shrugged". One up side to late night feedings is I catch up on my reading!


good night -- nice to 'see' you ...

I should be getting to bed, too -- have to make up for that hour I'm gonna lose!
jeez, that really screws up my daily beauty sleep requirement . . .

403 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:49:50pm

re: #400 realwest

Good point.

404 Josephine  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:49:51pm

re: #180 WriterMom

Hey you!

Yikes! Sorry, I had to log off in a hurry, but now I'm back.

Howdy! (You're probably snoozing by now.)

405 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:50:16pm

re: #382 yesandno
and besides it can't be for Biden - there are no loose cannons on deck!

406 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:50:30pm

Another Axe-Master...

407 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:50:50pm

re: #393 livefreeor die

Good night all! I have to feed the baby and I'm going to start reading "Atlas Shrugged". One up side to late night feedings is I catch up on my reading!

Speaking of that...

Bailouts Spike Atlas Shrugged Sales

All of the government's pesky market intrusions have people snapping up copies of Atlas Shrugged like they were bailout packages. Since it's not like Ayn Rand's laissez-faire fantasies got us into this mess.

408 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:50:52pm

re: #383 Afrocity

Good Evening Everyone.

I just got finished watching a great film from the 80's about a racism and animals. The film was never released in the US until Criterion made a DVD out of it in December 2008. The film is called White Dog, directed by Samuel Fuller and it stars Burl Ives, Kristy McNickol, and Paul Winfield.

White Dog

sounds like it was a good movie!
I'll have to put it on my netflix queue.

409 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:51:37pm

re: #399 Gus 802

I know. I've been in my place for a while. I think I've paid over 50,000 over the years in rent. Zero equity. Not that I'm demanding equity for paying rent it just puts thing in perspective.

At the risk of making your blood boil, read this horseshit:

[Link: www.treas.gov...]

410 yesandno  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:52:28pm

re: #405 realwest

and besides it can't be for Biden - there are no loose cannons on deck!

:)

411 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:53:00pm

re: #400 realwest

Not only that, but if it isn't called "interest" then it's not deductible from your income taxes (the interest portion I mean) and most everyone I know, when they're buying a house, figures out how much it'll cost them, NET OF INCOME TAXES based on the interest they pay. And in NYC, for example, that interest deduction works on your fed return, which spills over into you State income taxes and NYC income taxes.
With this quasi-Sharia, I don't see where you get any deductions on those income taxes for the "interest you're not paying".

Don't worry...it won't be long before Obama takes away the interest deduction from our taxes anyway.

412 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:53:15pm

re: #386 jorline
Ah, indeed it does! In fact my doc says the chief advantage to Ambien - no matter what the strength (I think it comes in 5, mg and 10 mg, plus the 12.5 time release version) is that it shuts your mind down so you don't toss and turn worrying about things or planning what you need to do the next day, next week or whatever!
I'm sure glad that business is up for you my friend - I remember right after the election things were kinda tight for awhile.

413 swamprat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:53:59pm

Who is John Galt?

414 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:54:09pm

re: #408 reine.de.tout

Hello Reine,

Yes it is about a woman who hits a dog with her car. After taking him to a vet, she decides to keep him until she finds his owners. Meanwhile the dog is great but he attacks people and after awhile it is apparrent that he only attacks people with dark skin. The movie is based on a true story and also accounts of Hitler training dogs to kill Jews.

415 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:54:44pm

re: #413 swamprat

Who is John Galt?

John Galt

416 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:54:46pm

re: #409 David Simon

At the risk of making your blood boil, read this horseshit:

[Link: www.treas.gov...]

Great title for that: Relief for Responsible Homeowners One Step Closer Under New Treasury Guidelines

They are so very responsible, many of them overspent themselves and now can't make their payments.

Now, I must be what you call stupidly responsible, where I bought what I could afford to pay for.

417 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:55:08pm

re: #409 David Simon

At the risk of making your blood boil, read this horseshit:

[Link: www.treas.gov...]


Well, here are some of those new jobs 44 promised:
In conjunction with the release of the new guidelines, Treasury, HUD and other members of a broad interagency task force have prepared consumer friendly Q&A and eligibility assessment tools for borrowers available at FinancialStability.gov. To ensure the program can be implemented as quickly as possible, the agencies also have conducted extensive outreach with housing counselors and mortgage servicers, including the development of call center phone scripts, a training plan and detailed guides, to prepare them for incoming inquiries from borrowers in the wake of the guidelines release.

418 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:55:11pm

re: #413 swamprat

Love your avatar.

419 Silvergirl  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:55:12pm

re: #383 Afrocity

Good Evening Everyone.

I just got finished watching a great film from the 80's about a racism and animals. The film was never released in the US until Criterion made a DVD out of it in December 2008. The film is called White Dog, directed by Samuel Fuller and it stars Burl Ives, Kristy McNickol, and Paul Winfield.

White Dog

It has a good rating (89%) at Rotten Tomatoes.

I'll look into it.

420 mikeymom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:56:12pm

re: #414 Afrocity

Hello Reine,

Yes it is about a woman who hits a dog with her car. After taking him to a vet, she decides to keep him until she finds his owners. Meanwhile the dog is great but he attacks people and after awhile it is apparrent that he only attacks people with dark skin. The movie is based on a true story and also accounts of Hitler training dogs to kill Jews.


sounds like a lot chuckles-NOT! (why would you want to watcha movie like like? i wouldnt be able to sleep for a week!

421 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:56:46pm

re: #409 David Simon

Yep, there you have it. Not only are the re-writing Federal laws to accommodate these deadbeats but they're soon going to force financial institutions to accommodate them -- at a loss. The banks won't pay for that loss so the taxpayer will take on that debt. I say debt because it is based on future treasury bill returns on the mounting debt. The Federal government of course never creates any money at all so that's a no-brainer. Who pays in the end? The taxpayer. Who makes out the best in this case? The deadbeat

/IMO

422 Syrah  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:56:57pm

Its snowing.

Its March and its snowing.

423 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:57:15pm

re: #422 Syrah

Its snowing.

Its March and its snowing.


Where are you?

424 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:57:40pm

re: #423 outsidephilly

Where are you?

Somewhere near an AGW protest, apparently.

425 Syrah  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:57:41pm

Just west of Seattle.

426 Killer Tomato  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:58:38pm

re: #425 Syrah

You're in the ocean?!

427 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:58:40pm

Foreclose. Sell the house at auction -- privately -- and move on. The people that lose their homes will have to rent. That's the way it used to work.

428 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:58:45pm

re: #425 Syrah

Just west of Seattle.


We had temps in the 70's today!

429 swamprat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:58:53pm

re: #415 Desert Dog

[edit] "Who is John Galt?"
Since everyone across the country is repeating the phrase, "Who is John Galt?", it is natural that many people have attempted to answer that question. The phrase becomes an expression of helplessness and despair at the current state of
the novel's fictionalised world.
the obama-nation.

430 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:59:39pm

re: #392 Dark_Falcon

My feet hurt because I have to stand all day. The Epson ssalts idea is a good one, I'll try it.

better yet, lie down and elevate your feet so they're above heart level...

that will help the blood get back out of them, and thus reduce the swelling.

431 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 8:59:44pm

re: #426 Killer Tomato

You're in the ocean?!

Damned melting ice caps. And the polar bear carcasses really lower property values. We need bail-outs (figurative and literal).

432 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:00:18pm

re: #425 Syrah

Just west of Seattle.


If its anywhere near Friday Harbor than I'll have to tell ya I'm jealous!

433 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:00:24pm

re: #431 OldLineTexan

Damned melting ice caps. And the polar bear carcasses really lower property values. We need bail-outs (figurative and literal).

Don't give them any ideas!

//

434 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:00:34pm

re: #393 livefreeor die

Good night all! I have to feed the baby and I'm going to start reading "Atlas Shrugged". One up side to late night feedings is I catch up on my reading!

I'm listening to the audiobook version of Atlas Shrugged on my iPod as I type this!

---

Sales of Ayn Rand's “Atlas Shrugged” Soar in the Face of Economic Crisis
by News Wire (February 23, 2009)

[CapMag.com] Washington, D.C., February 23, 2009--Sales of Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged” have almost tripled over the first seven weeks of this year compared with sales for the same period in 2008. This continues a strong trend after bookstore sales reached an all-time annual high in 2008 of about 200,000 copies sold.

“Americans are flocking to buy and read ‘Atlas Shrugged’ because there are uncanny similarities between the plot-line of the book and the events of our day” said Yaron Brook, Executive Director at the Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights. “Americans are rightfully concerned about the economic crisis and government’s increasing intervention and attempts to control the economy. Ayn Rand understood and identified the deeper causes of the crisis we’re facing, and she offered, in ‘Atlas Shrugged,’ a principled and practical solution consistent with American values."

Here is a video featuring Dr. Yaron Brook, executive director of the Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights, on the "Glenn Beck Program" on Fox News , Tuesday, February 17, 2009:

435 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:00:35pm

re: #412 realwest

Ah, indeed it does! In fact my doc says the chief advantage to Ambien - no matter what the strength (I think it comes in 5, mg and 10 mg, plus the 12.5 time release version) is that it shuts your mind down so you don't toss and turn worrying about things or planning what you need to do the next day, next week or whatever!
I'm sure glad that business is up for you my friend - I remember right after the election things were kinda tight for awhile.

Sales were tight after the election. Even with the growth cash flow is tight.

Amen on the Ambian...thanks to your suggestion I can shut my brain off for at least 6 to 7 hours a day.

436 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:00:45pm

re: #394 Silvergirl
Good evening Silvergirl - yeah someone posted the whole bit on an earlier thread - that he was bitching and moaning about Iraq, Afghanistan, the economy yada yada yada and my comment then was the same as it is now: Tough luck, George W. Bush faced a deteriorating economy (thank you Bill Clinton), an attack on America ON OUR SOIL with a greater loss of life - almost all "civilian" or at least non-military - then had to deal with Afghanistan, went into Iraq to both enforce something like 18 UN Security Council resolutions Saddam had ignored and because the intelligence agencies of 7 different nations came to the same conclusion that Bill Clinton had come to: Saddam had WMD's AND Bush had to deal with the aftereffects of the CRA (again, thank you Bill Clinton and the Dems) which created the effin' sub-prime mortgage market in the first place and at least George W. Bush kept us SAFE after 9/11 - for 7 years.
Let's hope that you can at least measure up to President Bush in that area.

437 Syrah  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:00:51pm

re: #426 Killer Tomato

You're in the ocean?!

The Puget Sound area.

But for the record, yes, at sea level. And its snowing.

438 Syrah  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:02:26pm

re: #432 outsidephilly

If its anywhere near Friday Harbor than I'll have to tell ya I'm jealous!

Near enough.

When the weather is nice here, its paradise. When its not, its just Washington.

439 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:02:40pm

re: #433 Gus 802

Don't give them any ideas!

//

The polar bears? No worries, mate, they're all deceased. I failed to send Susan Sarandon (and any number of other B-grade actoes) any WWF money and they all drowned.

Sad, really.

440 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:03:17pm

re: #434 gmsc

For anyone who's not had the pleasure of seeing Rand in her heyday, here's a five part interview done with Donahue way back when. (If you dbl click the video it will take you to youtube where parts 2-5 are linked.)

441 Killer Tomato  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:03:18pm

re: #437 Syrah

The Puget Sound area.

But for the record, yes, at sea level. And its snowing.

Well when you go to bed, make sure you take an axe with you in case you need to hack your way onto your roof and await rescue!
;-)

442 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:03:23pm

re: #437 Syrah

The Puget Sound area.

But for the record, yes, at sea level. And its snowing.


Ah yes! I've spent many a day in that area --- when I'm there I stay on my friend's boat/yacht which he docks at Friday Harbor.

443 wee fury  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:03:23pm

re: #422 Syrah

Its snowing.

Its March and its snowing.

Dream.

444 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:03:39pm

re: #437 Syrah

The Puget Sound area.

But for the record, yes, at sea level. And its snowing.

In early April of 1973, I was going to college (LSU - Baton Rouge), and I woke up one morning and there was snow on the ground.
April.
In south Louisiana.
They just about had to call off classes for the day.

445 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:04:01pm

re: #439 OldLineTexan

The polar bears? No worries, mate, they're all deceased. I failed to send Susan Sarandon (and any number of other B-grade actoes) any WWF money and they all drowned.

Sad, really.

Actually, we ate them all here in Arizona and they were D-E-L-I-C-I-O-U-S!

446 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:04:05pm

re: #439 OldLineTexan

The polar bears? No worries, mate, they're all deceased. I failed to send Susan Sarandon (and any number of other B-grade actoes) any WWF money and they all drowned.

Sad, really.

Susan Sarandon? How's her son doing, Tim Robbins.

The World Wrestling Federation is doing that these days? ;)

//

447 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:04:08pm

re: #416 reine.de.tout

Great title for that: Relief for Responsible Homeowners One Step Closer Under New Treasury Guidelines

They are so very responsible, many of them overspent themselves and now can't make their payments.

Now, I must be what you call stupidly responsible, where I bought what I could afford to pay for.

The Obama administration is trying so hard to not make it seem like they're doing what they're really doing: bailing out irresponsible people.

It's no different than giving welfare bums a card instead of stamps so that they don't have to suffer the "indignity" of everyone knowing that they're receiving a government handout.

/spit

448 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:04:11pm

re: #382 yesandno

Does it fit in the bathtub?

Cause then it could, like, go down the drain...

Or he could sink himself after one of the rubber cannons has and accidental discharge...:)

/S

449 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:04:17pm

re: #422 Syrah

Its snowing.

Its March and its snowing.

Surfs up here.

Actually...the Surfs are getting pissed on from coast to coast.

450 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:04:42pm

re: #445 Desert Dog

Actually, we ate them all here in Arizona and they were D-E-L-I-C-I-O-U-S!

Better than Gazan Rooster?

451 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:04:46pm

re: #397 Killer Tomato
Fools? Oh ya mean those that didn't insist on 3,000 sq ft MINIMUM STARTER homes with granite counter tops and all stainless steel appliances and hardwood floors?
Those fools?!
Nah, forget it - THIS federal government isn't gonna give them a thing - THEY have to suffer the consequences of keeping the home after losing their job(s).

452 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:05:23pm

re: #446 Gus 802

Heh heh heh. I saw that show.

453 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:05:32pm

re: #450 OldLineTexan

Better than Gazan Rooster?

LOL!
I miss the Gaza Rooster!
I can't believe I sat here until the early hours of the morning, watching and listening for that rooster.

454 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:06:19pm

re: #449 jorline

Surfs up here.

Actually...the Surfs are getting pissed on from coast to coast.

And the peasants are revolting.

/you can say that again

455 mikeymom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:06:21pm

re: #445 Desert Dog

Actually, we ate them all here in Arizona and they were D-E-L-I-C-I-O-U-S!

here in co, along with rocky mnt oysters, they serve alaskan bear oysters! YUMMY!

456 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:06:48pm

re: #453 reine.de.tout

LOL!
I miss the Gaza Rooster!
I can't believe I sat here until the early hours of the morning, watching and listening for that rooster.

And he's now a featured dish in the cook book...:)


/S

457 Syrah  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:06:56pm

re: #443 wee fury

That man had the voice of an angel. Really remarkable.

458 swamprat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:06:59pm

re: #418 Afrocity

Originally, I had a pen and ink of a real rat drawn by a crew member of The Bounty. While interesting, it freaked out one of our lizards, who had a rat phobia. If this wasn't tame enough, I was going to use this guy.

459 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:07:10pm

re: #456 Dustyvet

And he's now a featured dish in the cook book...:)

/S

Well, ArmyWife isn't gonna like that one bit.

460 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:07:10pm

re: #453 reine.de.tout

lol Reine

461 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:07:15pm

re: #454 OldLineTexan

And the peasants are revolting.

/you can say that again

How are you, OLT?

462 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:07:35pm

re: #421 Gus 802

Not only are the re-writing Federal laws to accommodate these deadbeats but they're soon going to force financial institutions to accommodate them -- at a loss.

Read on. The government is going to reimburse financial institutions for the slack that they cut the deadbeats responsible homeowners.

463 Silvergirl  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:08:03pm

re: #453 reine.de.tout

LOL!
I miss the Gaza Rooster!
I can't believe I sat here until the early hours of the morning, watching and listening for that rooster.

You weren't alone. We were all alternately cheering and damning the Gaza Rooster.

464 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:08:04pm

re: #459 reine.de.tout

Well, ArmyWife isn't gonna like that one bit.

Hiding in the potted palm in my camo's...:)

465 mikeymom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:08:22pm

re: #456 Dustyvet

And he's now a featured dish in the cook book...:)


/S


i miss rooster cam! loved the ka-booms in the background! i wonder if they will ever bring it back--GO ISRAEL!

466 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:08:38pm

re: #454 OldLineTexan

And the peasants are revolting.

/you can say that again

but without the peasants, we'd have no one to divide the shortages amongst!

467 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:08:41pm

re: #456 Dustyvet

And he's now a featured dish in the cook book...:)


/S

Gazan rooster with honco dumplings
Fried Gazan Rooster, Southern Sinai Style
Obama Chicken Surprise (Surprise, You Ain't Got Enough Money For Chicken)

468 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:08:43pm

re: #463 Silvergirl

You weren't alone. We were all alternately cheering and damning the Gaza Rooster.

And ArmyWife had a plan to save the rooster.
I don't think she got anywhere with it, though.

469 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:08:54pm

re: #411 NJDhockeyfan
Yes, I know that my friend - just didn't want to get too gloomy tonight. Taking away that interest deduction will - according to a study I read in 2008 prepared by the Real Estate Insitute of NYU would ultimately wind up with MANY MORE foreclosures, throughout the nation, than we are currently facing in primarily five states.

470 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:08:59pm

re: #450 OldLineTexan

Better than Gazan Rooster?

Almost as good as Spotted Owl

471 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:09:28pm

re: #453 reine.de.tout

LOL!
I miss the Gaza Rooster!
I can't believe I sat here until the early hours of the morning, watching and listening for that rooster.

Good to see you reine...I think we'll see the Rooster again soon.

472 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:09:41pm

re: #461 jorline

How are you, OLT?

I'm around here somewhere ...
/looking
Made it through another day!

You?

473 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:09:51pm

re: #453 reine.de.tout

LOL!
I miss the Gaza Rooster!
I can't believe I sat here until the early hours of the morning, watching and listening for that rooster.

He was delicious.

474 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:09:53pm

re: #458 swamprat

Originally, I had a pen and ink of a real rat drawn by a crew member of The Bounty. While interesting, it freaked out one of our lizards, who had a rat phobia. If this wasn't tame enough, I was going to use this guy.

I like your current one better. The only LGF avatar that I hate is I think "Free Token" who has an Obama avatar. I can't stand the sight of him, especially after this week with the way he treated the British Prime Minister. I really dont think we know what the hell our country elected.

475 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:10:01pm

re: #451 realwest

Fools? Oh ya mean those that didn't insist on 3,000 sq ft MINIMUM STARTER homes with granite counter tops and all stainless steel appliances and hardwood floors?
Those fools?!
Nah, forget it - THIS federal government isn't gonna give them a thing - THEY have to suffer the consequences of keeping the home after losing their job(s).

Did you see that bus driver complaining about being in foreclosure? I couldn't help but notice the house and the appliances. 800,000 dollar home. I don't know what her husband does but I can guess considering she's a bus driver. She went on to blame "the mortgage company because they made it too easy to get into the home."

Now, who in their right mind gets into an 800,000 dollar home thinking that it's going to be a cake walk. That's well beyond even a starter home price. No doubt some liberal "Metro Broker" real estate hack had their paws in on this deal too.

476 yesandno  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:10:04pm

re: #427 Gus 802

Foreclose. Sell the house at auction -- privately -- and move on. The people that lose their homes will have to rent. That's the way it used to work.

Those that financed 100% or 100%+ haven't 'owned' a home all along. They haven't paid down any of the principle so far, only interest...they are actually just paying rent now. This crap about them losing their investment...they never had one.

And those that floated loans on the 2nd and 3rd home...sorry. Or wanted to flip a house with no qualifications and only greed in their eyes...sorry. Those they had a balloon mortgage should have expected that one day the balloon might inflate...sorry.

So people are desperate. But too many are like those described above.

477 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:10:05pm

re: #467 OldLineTexan

Gazan rooster with honco dumplings
Fried Gazan Rooster, Southern Sinai Style
Obama Chicken Surprise (Surprise, You Ain't Got Enough Money For Chicken)

Somebody needs to send in some recipes with those names!

Now taking recipes for Vol 2!
Jaunte will do new art!
FlakMusic will do better spell-check!
Reine will do better proofing!
Click my nic and send 'em in, and be creative with your titles!
If you don't Sharmuta will yell at you.

478 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:10:19pm

re: #470 Desert Dog

Here come da judge!

479 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:10:28pm

re: #467 OldLineTexan

Gazan rooster with honco dumplings
Fried Gazan Rooster, Southern Sinai Style
Obama Chicken Surprise (Surprise, You Ain't Got Enough Money For Chicken)

Friskie's cat food surprise...:P

480 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:10:45pm

re: #463 Silvergirl

You weren't alone. We were all alternately cheering chewing and damning the Gaza Rooster.

To each his own, I say.

/

481 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:11:08pm

re: #471 jorline

Good to see you reine...I think we'll see the Rooster again soon.

Hiya, Jorline. Hope all is going really well for you.
i wonder if those cameras are still up and running?
I'll look for those links.

482 Silvergirl  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:11:30pm

re: #436 realwest

Good evening Silvergirl - yeah someone posted the whole bit on an earlier thread - that he was bitching and moaning about Iraq, Afghanistan, the economy yada yada yada and my comment then was the same as it is now: Tough luck, George W. Bush faced a deteriorating economy (thank you Bill Clinton), an attack on America ON OUR SOIL with a greater loss of life - almost all "civilian" or at least non-military - then had to deal with Afghanistan, went into Iraq to both enforce something like 18 UN Security Council resolutions Saddam had ignored and because the intelligence agencies of 7 different nations came to the same conclusion that Bill Clinton had come to: Saddam had WMD's AND Bush had to deal with the aftereffects of the CRA (again, thank you Bill Clinton and the Dems) which created the effin' sub-prime mortgage market in the first place and at least George W. Bush kept us SAFE after 9/11 - for 7 years.
Let's hope that you can at least measure up to President Bush in that area.

You are correct, sir! He had no idea. Today I saw a funny photoshop of an Urkel/Obama behind the desk in the Oval Office with a nuclear explosion as the view out the windows. He was wearing a trainee hat. I can't give you the link because I don't remember where I was.

483 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:11:35pm

re: #479 Dustyvet

Friskie's cat food surprise...:P

We'll be buying the Wal-Mart store brand at best. Friskie's will be "uptown".

484 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:11:36pm

re: #468 reine.de.tout

And ArmyWife had a plan to save the rooster.
I don't think she got anywhere with it, though.


Didn't ArmyWife give the rooster a name? I think she did . . . , I don't remember what the name was, though

485 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:11:56pm

re: #422 Syrah
Good evening Syrah! Snowing? Wow it was 78 degrees and sunny here and a repeat is on tap for tomorrow - where the heck do is "here" for you?

486 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:11:59pm

re: #477 reine.de.tout

Beans and Barney Franks

487 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:12:13pm

re: #484 outsidephilly

Didn't ArmyWife give the rooster a name? I think she did . . . , I don't remember what the name was, though

"Dinner"?

488 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:12:26pm

re: #476 yesandno

Yep, the typical wait was 30 years. They never had any equity.

489 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:12:43pm

re: #486 Afrocity

Beans and Barney Franks in cream sauce.

FTFY!

/TMI

490 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:12:44pm

re: #487 redc1c4

"Dinner"?

He was delicious.

491 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:12:46pm

re: #486 Afrocity

Beans and Barney Franks

OK, that's your assignment!
Come up with a recipe for that name.
It's great.

492 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:13:25pm

re: #490 Sharmuta

He was delicious.

i think the chicken should be nominated as the Paleostinian "national bird"

493 NY Nana  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:13:59pm

Hi, Lizards,

NY Grampa and I both have been in computer hell for a few days, as both our computers are corrupted...mine was first.

I am now using FireFox, which I hate. I have been having such bad withdrawal symptoms from LGF that I finally gave in, and will use it until NY Grampa wipes both hard drives clean, and re-installs tomorrow.

A technician was here today, and tried to fix it..he finally said it was totally corrupted, and since NY Grampa knows how to wipe the hard drive clean, and has put everything on the back up on the external hard drive, he will ask our computer geek kid some questions tomorrow before starting, just to be sure.

We had to ransom our first-born to pay the techie. ;)

494 mikeymom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:14:01pm

re: #489 redc1c4

FTFY!

/TMI

oh noes--you di-int! bad bad

495 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:14:07pm

re: #472 OldLineTexan

I'm around here somewhere ...
/looking
Made it through another day!

You?

Hanging in there...the wife put me to work in the yard today. Shit rolls downhill though, I make the kids detail the kitty litter box...lol

496 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:14:15pm

re: #484 outsidephilly

Didn't ArmyWife give the rooster a name? I think she did . . . , I don't remember what the name was, though

Something with "honco" in it.

497 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:14:23pm

re: #491 reine.de.tout

That's easy. Just words...

498 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:14:25pm

Chicken Man Radio Show


499 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:14:49pm

re: #493 NY Nana

Hi, Lizards,

NY Grampa and I both have been in computer hell for a few days, as both our computers are corrupted...mine was first.

I am now using FireFox, which I hate. I have been having such bad withdrawal symptoms from LGF that I finally gave in, and will use it until NY Grampa wipes both hard drives clean, and re-installs tomorrow.

A technician was here today, and tried to fix it..he finally said it was totally corrupted, and since NY Grampa knows how to wipe the hard drive clean, and has put everything on the back up on the external hard drive, he will ask our computer geek kid some questions tomorrow before starting, just to be sure.

We had to ransom our first-born to pay the techie. ;)

What happened? A Virus?

500 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:14:52pm

re: #438 Syrah
"When the weather is nice here, its paradise. When its not, its just Washington."
ROFL! Great line!

501 swamprat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:15:04pm

re: #474 Afrocity

We elected a product of our own educational and political system. We have sown foolishness and we will reap the wind.

502 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:15:23pm

re: #486 Afrocity

Beans and Barney Franks

Oh gross...:P ickys...:)


/s

503 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:15:34pm

re: #485 realwest

Good evening Syrah! Snowing? Wow it was 78 degrees and sunny here and a repeat is on tap for tomorrow - where the heck do is "here" for you?


WoW -- you're getting the 70's again tomorrow?
We're only getting the 50's . . .

either temp, I'll take -- it felt good to go outside without putting on gloves, and a heavy coat.

I'll say 'good night', now --- I am so annoyed about losing that hour of sleep!

504 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:15:36pm

re: #492 redc1c4

i think the chicken should be nominated as the Paleostinian "national bird"

Ha, that's good. In Vietnam it used to be considered bourgeois to own and eat chickens. Of course that meant only the party member ate chicken. Got that from a Vietnamese friend.

505 Buster Bunny  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:16:25pm

re: #501 swamprat

We elected a product of our own educational and political system. We have sown foolishness and we will reap the wind.

We have eaten the beans of discontent and reap the wind of flatulence.

506 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:16:40pm

re: #486 Afrocity

Beans and Barney Franks

Rosy O'Donnell (Mussels Marinara)

Oh, look what you made me do!

507 outsidephilly  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:17:03pm

re: #493 NY Nana


Hi there, I've missed 'seeing' you! Too bad I have to log off now, I'm sleepy.

508 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:17:03pm

re: #500 realwest

"When the weather is nice here, its paradise. When its not, its just Washington."
ROFL! Great line!

Chicago is covered in a thick blanket of fog. It is creepy. I live in a hi-rise and I can't see anything outside.

509 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:17:24pm

re: #493 NY Nana

Nana! Good to see you, I've been wondering where you were. I am blueing my nick for you ...do NOT pay a fortune to a tech when you can call over here and have my son walk you through a lot of that stuff. He does this over the phone all the time.

Send me an email please and I will give you our number. ANY help or questions you have, we are happy to help you. ANY TIME.

510 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:17:40pm

re: #481 reine.de.tout

Hiya, Jorline. Hope all is going really well for you.
i wonder if those cameras are still up and running?
I'll look for those links.

All is well nor...thank you. How are you and the Roi? Still using that GPS?

I had to switch to a new link everyday. I wonder if the horse and cart are still roaming the streets...or was I just hearing things?

511 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:18:03pm

re: #506 David Simon

Rosy O'Donnell (Mussels Marinara)

Oh, look what you made me do!

I don't know about you guys, but any food with the names Barney Frank and Rosie O'Donnell in them, make me lose my appetite

512 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:18:04pm

re: #508 Afrocity

Chicago is covered in a thick blanket of fog. It is creepy. I live in a hi-rise and I can't see anything outside.

Don't go into the fog.

And if you see Adrienne Barbeau, alert OR and LEAVE THE AREA.

/bad luck follows that woman like stink behind a skunk

513 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:18:10pm

re: #505 Buster Bunny

We have eaten the beans of discontent and reap the wind of flatulence.

Is that the Bean Axiom or the Flatulence Razor?

//

514 Buster Bunny  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:18:43pm

re: #504 Gus 802

Ha, that's good. In Vietnam it used to be considered bourgeois to own and eat chickens. Of course that meant only the party member ate chicken. Got that from a Vietnamese friend.

They burn KFCs in Pakistan because to eat chicken at a KFC in pakistan is a sign of unwieldly opulent dining. Think of that next time you eat your 3 piece pack with gravy and buns.

515 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:18:58pm

re: #491 reine.de.tout

OK, that's your assignment!
Come up with a recipe for that name.
It's great.

Beans and barney franks must include buns.
BRAIN BLEACH!
I don't know if I can ever eat hot dogs again now.

516 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:19:17pm

re: #512 OldLineTexan

Oldline, I have never seen either version of The Fog. I should watch it sometime.

517 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:19:24pm

re: #511 Desert Dog

I don't know about you guys, but any food with the names Barney Frank and Rosie O'Donnell in them, make me lose my appetite vomit.

Fixed.

518 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:19:25pm

re: #464 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty! Well which is it? Is she hiding in the potted palms or hiding in your cammos?
:)
How are you doing tonight?

519 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:19:29pm

re: #514 Buster Bunny

There you go. Perfect example.

520 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:19:39pm

re: #514 Buster Bunny

They burn KFCs in Pakistan because to eat chicken at a KFC in pakistan is a sign of unwieldly opulent dining. Think of that next time you eat your 3 piece pack with gravy and buns.

Buns?

521 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:19:57pm

re: #506 David Simon

Rosy O'Donnell (Mussels Marinara)

Oh, look what you made me do!

Oysters ala Oprah?

522 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:20:02pm

re: #510 jorline

All is well nor...thank you. How are you and the Roi? Still using that GPS?

I had to switch to a new link everyday. I wonder if the horse and cart are still roaming the streets...or was I just hearing things?

Yes, there were a couple of links, sometimes one worked, sometimes another one.

Haven't been anywhere to really use the gps - sometimes I use it around town, just to use it. Hoping to take a trip of some sort this summer.

523 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:20:52pm

re: #515 Kosh's Shadow

Beans and barney franks must include buns.

Oh no, you didn't!

524 Aviator  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:20:52pm

re: #520 OldLineTexan

Buns?

Those be biscuits in TX.

525 Buster Bunny  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:21:13pm

re: #520 OldLineTexan

Buns?

There is a little thing u get in your chicken pack that is sugary and looks like a lump of bread. Yes its about as wholesome as the coleslaw but its still called a Bun.

526 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:21:18pm

re: #515 Kosh's Shadow

Beans and barney franks must include buns.
BRAIN BLEACH!
I don't know if I can ever eat hot dogs again now.

and to think his former domestic partner was one of the top guys at Fannie Mae.

527 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:21:28pm

re: #521 redc1c4

Oysters ala Oprah?

With raw spinach, walnuts, Olive Oyle, balsamic vinegar, and feta cheese.

$28.95

//

528 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:21:57pm

Sean Penn Pasta Salad

529 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:22:15pm

re: #524 Aviator

Those be biscuits in TX.

Back in the day, they gave you packaged dinner rolls.

Now you get biscuits. Pretty good with the gravy, but around here you have to ask for it.

530 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:22:29pm

re: #522 reine.de.tout

Yes, there were a couple of links, sometimes one worked, sometimes another one.

Haven't been anywhere to really use the gps - sometimes I use it around town, just to use it. Hoping to take a trip of some sort this summer.

The only problem with summer is it's hurricane season again...crap!

531 Aviator  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:22:38pm

re: #526 Afrocity

and to think his former domestic partner was one of the top guys at Fannie Mae.

Is it really a surprise he had something to do with Fannie?

532 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:22:38pm

re: #526 Afrocity

and to think his former domestic partner was one of the top guys at Fannie Mae.

so Barney is the bottom guy at Fanny May?

533 Buster Bunny  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:22:43pm

re: #528 redc1c4

Sean Penn Pasta Salad

Rosie O'Donnell .. sour cream with melted steel.

534 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:22:50pm

re: #518 realwest

Hey Dusty! Well which is it? Is she hiding in the potted palms or hiding in your cammos?
:)
How are you doing tonight?

Your really trying to get me in trouble with a 1st shirt ain't you...:) I'm doing okays here, with some minor problems concerning Tiger. How's you and your Mom doing?

535 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:22:57pm

re: #525 Buster Bunny

There is a little thing u get in your chicken pack that is sugary and looks like a lump of bread. Yes its about as wholesome as the coleslaw but its still called a Bun.

KFC serves biscuits these days. At least around here.

536 yesandno  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:22:58pm

re: #489 redc1c4

FTFY!

/TMI

re: #486 Afrocity

Beans and Barney Franks

That is definately a pig in a blanket...

537 Hucbald  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:23:16pm

I was thinking, "Yeah, technically proficient, but this lead guitar 'thing' has been done to death for over forty years now," when the year of the vid came up: 1995. LOL! Not exactly fresh, on any front. Aside from Steve Vai, who is eternally mind blowing, I can't listen to any of those guys with anything other than detached disdain anymore. But that's just me, judging from the popularity of Guitar Hero.

538 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:23:29pm

re: #527 Gus 802

With raw spinach, walnuts, Olive Oyle, balsamic vinegar, and feta cheese.

$28.95

//

Per pound, it's a hell of a deal.

539 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:23:39pm

re: #530 jorline

The only problem with summer is it's hurricane season again...crap!

Well, all my trees are gone from last year's Gustav, so I've got nothing left to lose this year LOL.

540 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:24:03pm

re: #528 redc1c4

Sean Penn Pasta Salad

I'm afraid to ask what's in it...must be full of shit.

541 Syrah  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:24:21pm

re: #485 realwest

Good evening Syrah! Snowing? Wow it was 78 degrees and sunny here and a repeat is on tap for tomorrow - where the heck do is "here" for you?

Puget Sound Area.

542 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:24:21pm

re: #528 redc1c4

Sean Penn Pasta Salad

Oh neat, something for my cat to bury in his litter tray...:)


/S

543 mikeymom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:24:54pm

ok- gonna get downdinged here--but-- i hate WHITE gravy! when i order biscuits(seldom) or country fried steak, i order BROWN gravy! so-- sue me!

544 Buster Bunny  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:25:00pm

re: #535 OldLineTexan

KFC serves biscuits these days. At least around here.

Here it starts at 10 bucks for a feed there. I went in about three weeks ago and was put off by the price. To give you an idea of monetary comparison, I went to the nextdoor noodle shop, 2 dishes and fried rice for $7. I had enough for a V left over.

545 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:25:08pm

re: #539 reine.de.tout

Well, all my trees are gone from last year's Gustav, so I've got nothing left to lose this year LOL.

Yeah, Ike trimmed my tallest oak tree (in half), so we are lower to the ground now.

546 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:25:13pm

re: #475 Gus 802
Nope I didn't see that but I understand it. It's the "entitlement" folks running into I'm not responsible it was HIS (or HER) fault. They MADE me buy a house I knew I couldn't afford to buy.
I do blame some of the buy/sell brokers and the mortgage brokers because I really think that in a lot of cases folks really didn't understand what they were getting into.
But when someone reads the RESPA Statement and the Truth in Lending Statement and it says your monthly nut for interest, principal, insurance and real estate taxes is only $250 LESS THAN YOU TAKE HOME EACH MONTH someone shoulda had a clue, ya know?

547 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:25:18pm

re: #539 reine.de.tout

Well, all my trees are gone from last year's Gustav, so I've got nothing left to lose this year LOL.

/very low key lol...I remember your pics.

548 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:25:19pm

re: #526 Afrocity

and to think his former domestic partner was one of the top guys at Fannie Mae.

And his name was Dick.

549 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:25:27pm

re: #538 OldLineTexan

Per pound, it's a hell of a deal.

OK, 250 lbs X 28.95?

550 Killer Tomato  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:25:39pm

re: #528 redc1c4

Sean Penn Pasta Salad

Is it served in a red plastic cup?

551 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:25:43pm

Long day.

Our daughter just left for Maryland with her boyfriend. He has another month or so to go in the State Police Academy, and she starts a job with as case manager in a drug court. So they're in good shape, but it is still hard seeing her go.

552 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:25:58pm

re: #543 mikeymom

ok- gonna get downdinged here--but-- i hate WHITE gravy! when i order biscuits(seldom) or country fried steak, i order BROWN gravy! so-- sue me!

Got a ding -up from me.
I'm with you.

553 Aviator  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:26:01pm

re: #543 mikeymom

ok- gonna get downdinged here--but-- i hate WHITE gravy! when i order biscuits(seldom) or country fried steak, i order BROWN gravy! so-- sue me!

Blasphemer!

554 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:26:16pm

re: #538 OldLineTexan

Per pound, it's a hell of a deal.

no: to be a bargain, it would have to be "Oprah on the half shell"

/talk about an "all you can eat buffet"!

555 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:26:27pm

re: #540 jorline

I'm afraid to ask what's in it...must be full of shit.

But there is an Oscar at the bottom of every bowl.

556 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:26:29pm

re: #543 mikeymom

ok- gonna get downdinged here--but-- i hate WHITE gravy! when i order biscuits(seldom) or country fried steak, i order BROWN gravy! so-- sue me!

That is wrong...just plain wrong...you need that white gravy for the biscuits and the thought of brown gravy on a chicken fried steak makes me want to cry.

557 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:26:30pm

re: #546 realwest

250 less? Wow. That would be some budget.

558 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:26:43pm

re: #545 OldLineTexan

Yeah, Ike trimmed my tallest oak tree (in half), so we are lower to the ground now.

Where in Texas are you OLT?

559 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:26:54pm

re: #543 mikeymom

ok- gonna get downdinged here--but-- i hate WHITE gravy! when i order biscuits(seldom) or country fried steak, i order BROWN gravy! so-- sue me!

not redeye gravy?

560 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:27:24pm

re: #544 Buster Bunny

Here it starts at 10 bucks for a feed there. I went in about three weeks ago and was put off by the price. To give you an idea of monetary comparison, I went to the nextdoor noodle shop, 2 dishes and fried rice for $7. I had enough for a V left over.

That's like Taiwan prices.

KFC had a $20 special a couple of weeks back. Ten pieces of chicken, three large sides, four "strips", four biscuits.

But I like to "eat local", except maybe Somalia or Mexico. I love the pho shops here (too lazy to look for the hatted "o").

561 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:27:52pm

re: #482 Silvergirl
Well the hat fits. See this Day by Day cartoon from yesterday and then hit the next or end button:
[Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]

562 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:28:10pm

re: #551 Kosh's Shadow

Yes. The part of parenting that sometimes seems the hardest.

563 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:28:24pm

re: #558 jorline

Where in Texas are you OLT?

North and west of Houston, outside of Tomball in the 'burbs.

564 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:28:25pm

re: #560 OldLineTexan

That's like Taiwan prices.

KFC had a $20 special a couple of weeks back. Ten pieces of chicken, three large sides, four "strips", four biscuits.

But I like to "eat local", except maybe Somalia or Mexico. I love the pho shops here (too lazy to look for the hatted "o").

we have pho last night...tasty tasty stuff

565 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:28:28pm

re: #550 Killer Tomato

Is it served in a red plastic cup?

i don't think Sean *needs* a cup... %-)

566 mikeymom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:28:47pm

re: #556 Desert Dog

re: #553 Aviator

hey! reine--the cookbook lady agrees! ?ducky behind reine-dodging the thrown biscuits

567 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:28:52pm

re: #555 Afrocity

But there is an Oscar at the bottom of every bowl.

Cracker Jacks!

568 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:28:56pm

re: #545 OldLineTexan

Yeah, Ike trimmed my tallest oak tree (in half), so we are lower to the ground now.

I had two trees that completely uprooted (missed the house, the garage AND the cars).

It was as if the ground got really soft and then the trees just came up out of the ground. One of them was next to the house and it had roots under the house, and when it fell, the whole house shook. Afterwards, we realized the force of the roots pulling up had twisted one of the piers under our porch by about 2 inches!

569 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:29:19pm

re: #559 redc1c4

not redeye gravy?

What's redeye gravy?

570 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:29:33pm

re: #548 David Simon

And his name was Dick.

What did Dick say to Barney Frank as they approached the bar?

571 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:30:00pm

re: #549 Gus 802

OK, 250 lbs X 28.95?

$28.95 / 250 lb

572 swamprat  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:30:11pm

typical coastal town in 4 years

573 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:30:14pm

re: #551 Kosh's Shadow

Long day.

Our daughter just left for Maryland with her boyfriend. He has another month or so to go in the State Police Academy, and she starts a job with as case manager in a drug court. So they're in good shape, but it is still hard seeing her go.

I'll bet it is.
Right now, my daughter is at an age where I can't wait for her to leave. She's driving me nuts. And I'm driving her nuts.

But I suspect that will change.

574 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:30:19pm

re: #569 pink freud

What's redeye gravy?

Redeye Gravy, it's been up all night...:)

575 mikeymom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:30:27pm

re: #569 pink freud

never had red eye gravy voluntarily--

576 Buster Bunny  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:30:37pm

re: #555 Afrocity

But there is an Oscar at the bottom of every bowl.

When Paris Hilton wins an Oscar for 'best dramatic performance' it will be time to pack your bags and think about the freedom and respect that Nicaragua or maybe Mexico offers.

577 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:30:38pm

re: #569 pink freud

What's redeye gravy?

this stuff

578 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:06pm

re: #573 reine.de.tout

I'll bet it is.
Right now, my daughter is at an age where I can't wait for her to leave. She's driving me nuts. And I'm driving her nuts.

But I suspect that will change.

I am waiting up for my 17 year old right now. He has until midnight

579 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:06pm

re: #503 outsidephilly
Good night outsidephilly - sleep well!

580 Aviator  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:06pm

re: #570 NJDhockeyfan

What did Dick say to Barney Frank as they approached the bar?

Bwend over?

581 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:21pm

re: #520 OldLineTexan

Buns?

I hear Barney Frank passes over the breasts and thighs and goes straight for the buns whenever he goes to KFC...

582 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:38pm

re: #563 OldLineTexan

North and west of Houston, outside of Tomball in the 'burbs.

I lived in Clear Lake and the southwest side of Houston during the early 80's

back when the street signs were still in English on the southwest side...lol

583 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:52pm

re: re: #575 mikeymom

c/574/6833876" target="_blank">#574 Dustyvet

LOL. Living in a place like south Louisiana, I thought I knew about every type of gravy out there! Live and learn ...

584 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:53pm

If we're talking about strange foods, how about this story from England:
Could it have been something they ate?

Britain’s Health Protection Agency said yesterday about 400 people reported falling ill after eating at The Fat Duck, a world-famous British restaurant known for its bizarre dishes.
Blumenthal’s latest televised gastronomic adventure, “Heston’s Feasts,” includes deep-fried mealworms - injected with tomato-flavored paste for added gooeyness - and a pink “Alice in Wonderland”-inspired potion designed to taste like toffee, toast, custard, cherry pie and turkey.


I'm falling ill reading this.

585 mikeymom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:54pm

re: #576 Buster Bunny

When Paris Hilton wins an Oscar for 'best dramatic performance' it will be time to pack your bags and think about the freedom and respect that Nicaragua or maybe Mexico offers.

im headed to belize--soon

586 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:59pm

re: #580 Aviator

Bwend over?

"Can I push your stool in?"

587 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:32:13pm

re: #581 Fenway_Nation

I hear Barney Frank passes over the breasts and thighs and goes straight for the buns whenever he goes to KFC...

Sometimes he goes for that sour Kraut.

/Bad

588 Buster Bunny  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:32:48pm

re: #583 pink freud

re:

Descriptive .. well said .. and straight to the point.

589 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:33:16pm

re: #570 NJDhockeyfan

What did Dick say to Barney Frank as they approached the bar?

I know I'm going to regret this...okay, tell me.

590 NY Nana  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:33:18pm

re: #499 Desert Dog

Not sure. I had a Trojan, Back Door Bandok, on mine, and it took 2 days to finally get rid of it, and then it popped up on my husband's 2 days later. He is connected by a wireless router.

I truly am a computer dummy, but suspect that possibly the Trojan took a free trip through the router.

I also hold AOHell partially responsible, as we have McAfee, as we pay for AOL, and it is a part of the deal. I reinstalled it, as it was going off, and I would wake up and there was a warning that the computer was not protected and to open McAfee to fix the problem. I do not usually close down at night, but now I will, I am afraid. We also have Spyware Doctor, which found the Trojan, but took about 20 scans to clean it. It has not been a lot of fun the past few days. LGF? I could not see the spinoffs, nor really post, as there were no symbols on top of where the post is formulated.

The tech support from AOHell is pathetic..Philippines and India...they are like robots when they speak the Gospel of AOHell. If there is any way to get a real phone number for AOHell's HQ in the US? NY Grampa would tell them, very politely, just what he thinks of them. He is from Brooklyn, and very polite, while I am a Bostonian..trust me, the words 'proper Bostonian' are an oxymoron when used about me! ;)

591 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:33:33pm

re: #508 Afrocity
Good evening to you Afrocity! Must have either been warmer than usual in Chicago today or it's getting warmer tonight. Something my sister once told me about living in Chicago!
Unless, of course, you live on the 75th floor in which case that fog could be clouds! LOL!

592 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:33:41pm

re: #589 David Simon

I know I'm going to regret this...okay, tell me.

"Can I push your stool in?"

593 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:33:47pm

re: #582 jorline

I lived in Clear Lake and the southwest side of Houston during the early 80's

back when the street signs were still in English on the southwest side...lol

HA! Yeah ...

I grew up in Pasa - git down - dena on the west sai-eed.

/

594 esch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:33:59pm

re: #583 pink freud

re:

'nuff said

595 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:34:02pm

re: #582 jorline

I lived in Clear Lake and the southwest side of Houston during the early 80's

back when the street signs were still in English on the southwest side...lol

My best friend does Blood drives for the Gulf Coast Blood Center as a Volunteer in that area...:)

596 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:34:09pm

re: #592 NJDhockeyfan

"Can I push your stool in?"

Good God!

Nooo!

597 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:34:12pm

re: #577 redc1c4

this stuff

I don't know who wrote that article, but it says this:

In Louisiana, Cajun-style gravy is often made with a roast beef instead of ham. Black coffee is always used, and it is frequently a strongly brewed chicory coffee.

My grandmother and mother could make the very best gravy with roast beef - I would often eat the gravy and rice but not the beef - but they never used coffee.

Where's Pink Freud?
Have you ever seen it made this way?

598 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:34:18pm

re: #573 reine.de.tout

I'll bet it is.
Right now, my daughter is at an age where I can't wait for her to leave. She's driving me nuts. And I'm driving her nuts.

But I suspect that will change.

{Reine}

And someday she will go away to college or wherever her dreams lead her and she will miss you and her home. The smell of laundry, the security of knowing you're in the next room., and she will come back just so you can do her laundry and make her favorite meal.

599 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:34:19pm

re: #577 redc1c4

I laughed there for a second, red, when I realized I had to scroll over your link and check before I clicked, based on nothing else other than that it was yours!

Coffee gravy? Yuk! I was right, I've never heard of it.

600 mikeymom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:34:26pm

re: #586 NJDhockeyfan

"Can I push your stool in?"

WHACK WHACK WHACK--3 of ems

601 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:34:30pm

re: #581 Fenway_Nation

I hear Barney Frank passes over the breasts and thighs and goes straight for the buns whenever he goes to KFC...

Barney's restaurant of choice...Wienerschnitzel.

602 yochanan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:34:49pm

re: #573 reine.de.tout

I'll bet it is.
Right now, my daughter is at an age where I can't wait for her to leave. She's driving me nuts. And I'm driving her nuts.

But I suspect that will change.

i think that is G-D'S PLAN other wise they would never leave.

603 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:34:53pm

re: #573 reine.de.tout

I'll bet it is.
Right now, my daughter is at an age where I can't wait for her to leave. She's driving me nuts. And I'm driving her nuts.

But I suspect that will change.

Awhile back my teenage sister (now the married mother of five) was giving my mother a really tough time. When I was home with my husband one time she said, "Sometimes, the way Mom gets, you'd swear she was crazy."

I just nodded. It was all I could not to say, "She wasn't crazy when I left. What did you do?"

604 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:34:55pm

re: #578 Desert Dog

I am waiting up for my 17 year old right now. He has until midnight

Yep, daughter is 17.
She has until 1.

605 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:35:09pm

re: #576 Buster Bunny

I already did that when Michael Moore won an Oscar.

606 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:35:20pm

re: #590 NY Nana

hope you had your stuff backed up...did you?

607 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:35:28pm

re: #601 jorline

Barney's restaurant of choice...Wienerschnitzel.

Are those things still around?

608 David Simon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:35:34pm

re: #592 NJDhockeyfan

"Can I push your stool in?"

Alright, you asked for it: What's the difference between Barney Frank and a freezer?

609 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:35:58pm

re: #588 Buster Bunny

Descriptive .. well said .. and straight to the point.

I heard the faint sucking sound as whoosh! it was sucked into the cyber hinterlands.

610 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:36:16pm

re: #598 Afrocity

{Reine}

And someday she will go away to college or wherever her dreams lead her and she will miss you and her home. The smell of laundry, the security of knowing you're in the next room., and she will come back just so you can do her laundry and make her favorite meal.

I hope so.
Right now she really doesn't like me at all.
She's chomping at the bit for her freedom, and she has a year left in HS.

611 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:36:39pm

re: #534 Dustyvet
Mom and I are doing ok, thanks! Whats wrong with Tiger?
Jeez, I hope not another visit to the Vet coming up!

612 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:36:48pm

re: #593 OldLineTexan

HA! Yeah ...

I grew up in Pasa - git down - dena on the west sai-eed.

/

lmao...back when everyone was an Urban Cowboy and Gilley's was king.

613 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:37:42pm

re: #562 pink freud

Yes. The part of parenting that sometimes seems the hardest.

Thanks.
At least they're in good shape, especially considering the economy.
And all of our dogs like him, so that is an excellent sign about his character.
BTW, he was a firefighter in Mass, but wants to do emt work with a helicopter unit, and Maryland has that.

614 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:37:57pm

re: #604 reine.de.tout

Yep, daughter is 17.
She has until 1.

?

Ain't nothin' good happens after midnight.

/old Texas saying
/JK

615 yochanan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:38:04pm

re: #603 EmmmieG

Awhile back my teenage sister (now the married mother of five) was giving my mother a really tough time. When I was home with my husband one time she said, "Sometimes, the way Mom gets, you'd swear she was crazy."

I just nodded. It was all I could not to say, "She wasn't crazy when I left. What did you do?"

GOOD ONE

616 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:38:20pm

re: #602 yochanan

i think that is G-D'S PLAN other wise they would never leave.

LOL!
I agree 100%
And they reason they are so difficult and drive us crazy is so that we're READY for them to leave.

617 Aviator  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:38:44pm

re: #610 reine.de.tout

I hope so.
Right now she really doesn't like me at all.
She's chomping at the bit for her freedom, and she has a year left in HS.

The friction is natures way of making the leaving the house easier. Kids are much more pleasant by the time they are 21.

618 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:38:50pm

re: #616 reine.de.tout

LOL!
I agree 100%
And they reason they are so difficult and drive us crazy is so that we're READY for them to leave.

You just described pregnancy. (You are SO READY to get them out of there.)

619 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:38:59pm

i gotta write a lame ass paper for a lame aass assignment in my lame ass eng comp class.

the teacher assigned us this moon bat screed "nickel and dimed in america", but now whe want's us to write 2 pages of "reading response" without mentioning the text... WTF did we bother reading the book? i think i'm gonna trot out all my grossest KP and latrine duty stories.

620 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:39:19pm

re: #548 David Simon
NTTAWWT! And, btw, I think his name is still Dick!
;')

621 Killer Tomato  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:39:55pm

re: #616 reine.de.tout

LOL!
I agree 100%
And they reason they are so difficult and drive us crazy is so that we're READY for them to leave.

I graduated high school at 17. For my graduation present, my parents gave me luggage.

622 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:40:02pm

re: #608 David Simon

Alright, you asked for it: What's the difference between Barney Frank and a freezer?

I'm afraid to ask.

623 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:40:02pm

re: #612 jorline

lmao...back when everyone was an Urban Cowboy and Gilley's was king.

Yeah, I actually went a few times AFTER the craze rolled by, but BEFORE it burned down. They had a rodeo arena! I saw Neil Young and International Harvester there once. But that was on the OTHER side of the freeway.

After completing my edumacation, I worked in Clear Lake for 9 years (lived near Friendswood).

624 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:40:06pm

re: #612 jorline

lmao...back when everyone was an Urban Cowboy and Gilley's was king.

Mickey Lee Gilley is Jimmy Lee Swaggart's cousin.

and Jerry Lee Lewis is cousin to both of them.

625 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:40:07pm

re: #610 reine.de.tout

I hope so.
Right now she really doesn't like me at all.
She's chomping at the bit for her freedom, and she has a year left in HS.

I think that is common with teenage girls, yes? I have an 18 year old who's as agreeable as can be...never a problem with him. His 17 year old brother is another matter...if he was not getting such good marks in school, I swear I would ship him off to the meanest nastiest military school I could find. I hope he grows out of this stage soon too. At least he is nice to his Mom.

626 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:40:30pm

re: #586 NJDhockeyfan

"Can I push your stool in?"

SMACK! Don't give me nausea like that!

627 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:40:50pm

re: #607 Dustyvet

Are those things still around?

Yep...we have five here. Believe it or not, their special for Lent is fish tacos...go figure.

/now serving cheap gross crap.

628 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:40:55pm

re: #611 realwest

Mom and I are doing ok, thanks! Whats wrong with Tiger?
Jeez, I hope not another visit to the Vet coming up!

No nothing like that, i just have not been given any clear idea, just how much his bill is going to be for the last go around..:(

629 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:40:56pm

re: #619 redc1c4

Make it about getting nickel and dimed by Treasury, State and Local.

Might as well throw in Fees.

630 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:41:19pm

re: #621 Killer Tomato

I graduated high school at 17. For my graduation present, my parents gave me luggage.

I left home for college after HS.
For my graduation present, my parents gave my room to my brother.
Eye-opener for me, that was!

631 yesandno  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:41:38pm

re: #619 redc1c4

i gotta write a lame ass paper for a lame aass assignment in my lame ass eng comp class.

the teacher assigned us this moon bat screed "nickel and dimed in america", but now whe want's us to write 2 pages of "reading response" without mentioning the text... WTF did we bother reading the book? i think i'm gonna trot out all my grossest KP and latrine duty stories.

Change you can believe in!

632 yochanan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:41:42pm

Recently one of my sons (who just became a father in jan.) said now i never have any free time.

all i did was smile with a evil laugh.

my wife said 'tell us about it'

633 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:41:50pm

re: #613 Kosh's Shadow

Thanks.
At least they're in good shape, especially considering the economy.
And all of our dogs like him, so that is an excellent sign about his character.
BTW, he was a firefighter in Mass, but wants to do emt work with a helicopter unit, and Maryland has that.

As the mom of a 20 year old daughter, I believe that if I had to trust her safety to someone, the qualities you've listed would put my heart at ease.

There are times when I think our only true peace of mind comes from the rock- solid knowledge that we raised them well.

It sounds like she chose her man well.

634 Silvergirl  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:42:15pm

re: #561 realwest

Well the hat fits. See this Day by Day cartoon from yesterday and then hit the next or end button:
[Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]

Yeah. I also clicked previous several times; I really got into it. I'll start reading that strip more.

635 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:42:26pm

re: #557 Gus 802
Yeah, if you're only making $250 a month more than your housing nut (not including, btw, Utilities) you are in TROUBLE. And that's a true story, though I don't have a link for it right handy - poor single woman didn't apparently realize that her Adjustable mortage could go up four points in just two years!

636 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:42:42pm

re: #627 jorline

Yep...we have five here. Believe it or not, their special for Lent is fish tacos...go figure.

/now serving cheap gross crap.

I've not seen one since I lived out in Salt Lake City in 1979.

637 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:43:16pm

re: #625 Desert Dog

I think that is common with teenage girls, yes? I have an 18 year old who's as agreeable as can be...never a problem with him. His 17 year old brother is another matter...if he was not getting such good marks in school, I swear I would ship him off to the meanest nastiest military school I could find. I hope he grows out of this stage soon too. At least he is nice to his Mom.

Actually, my brother is 15 years my senior and he was the trouble maker. My mom devoted much time to his episodes, in fact my entire family does. What I hated was that I was the good one, so mom always assumed that Afrocity can handle herself, while he got most of the attention.

638 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:43:18pm

re: #625 Desert Dog

I think that is common with teenage girls, yes? I have an 18 year old who's as agreeable as can be...never a problem with him. His 17 year old brother is another matter...if he was not getting such good marks in school, I swear I would ship him off to the meanest nastiest military school I could find. I hope he grows out of this stage soon too. At least he is nice to his Mom.

Yes, I think it's quite common.
She loves her Dad, though.
Of course, he's gone for two weeks at a time, and I'm always here. So maybe it's easier to like him, since he's not really around all the time, messing in her business.

639 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:43:28pm

re: #619 redc1c4

Nickel and Dimed in America ...a moonbat favorite. They love assigning that book.

640 Killer Tomato  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:43:31pm

re: #630 reine.de.tout

I left home for college after HS.
For my graduation present, my parents gave my room to my brother.
Eye-opener for me, that was!

LOL
First time I came home on leave, there was a brand new color TV sitting in the living room (we only had B&W when I left). I was amazed. My dad said, "hey! you ate a lot!"

641 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:43:44pm

re: #635 realwest

Yeah, if you're only making $250 a month more than your housing nut (not including, btw, Utilities) you are in TROUBLE. And that's a true story, though I don't have a link for it right handy - poor single woman didn't apparently realize that her Adjustable mortage could go up four points in just two years!

I'll say. The rental standard from what I understand is 3X take home pay. Which means a 2500/month mortgage would equal 7500/take home.

642 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:43:55pm

Over at Newsmax, this:

Obama Prepared to Reach Out to Taliban
President Barack Obama says he hopes U.S. troops can identify moderate elements of the Taliban and move them toward reconciliation.
FULL STORY

He's going to get some of us killed.

643 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:44:18pm

re: #629 Gus 802

Make it about getting nickel and dimed by Treasury, State and Local.

Might as well throw in Fees.

it's written by some spoiled liberal writer, who decided to write about the downtrodden underclass in America, by living as one for for a few weeks here and there... every time stuff got hard, or the j*b sucked, or her own decisions caused her to run out of money, she went back home.

it's bullshit, through and through. life at the bottom is hard, but unlike this princess, you have to suck it up and live it.

644 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:44:36pm

re: #639 pink freud

Nickel and Dimed in America ...a moonbat favorite. They love assigning that book.

Write a paper describing what a loser the author must be.

I swear, I would flunk school.

645 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:44:55pm

re: #636 Dustyvet

I've not seen one since I lived out in Salt Lake City in 1979.

Mostly in the west in appears. I like to get a chocolate dipped ice cream cone from these guys. My one vice left...

646 Aviator  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:45:22pm

re: #642 Ojoe

Over at Newsmax, this:

He's going to get some of us killed.

I'm shocked.

/

647 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:45:34pm

re: #640 Killer Tomato

LOL
First time I came home on leave, there was a brand new color TV sitting in the living room (we only had B&W when I left). I was amazed. My dad said, "hey! you ate a lot!"

rofl!
I have 3 brothers, and do not understand how mom and dad afforded to feed them.

Mandy, earlier to day, was upset that her son ate something she needed for dinner tonight. We were trying to tell her that boys simply eat a lot.

648 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:45:42pm

re: #639 pink freud

Nickel and Dimed in America ...a moonbat favorite. They love assigning that book.

i bought it used, so the shank didn't make a dime off of me.

649 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:45:58pm

re: #645 Desert Dog

Mostly in the west in appears. I like to get a chocolate dipped ice cream cone from these guys. My one vice left...

No Dairy Queen stores near by you?

650 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:45:59pm

re: #638 reine.de.tout

Yes, I think it's quite common.
She loves her Dad, though.
Of course, he's gone for two weeks at a time, and I'm always here. So maybe it's easier to like him, since he's not really around all the time, messing in her business.

She'll come around and you two will be best friends. Especially when she gets older and starts her adult like out...

651 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:46:09pm

re: #584 Kosh's Shadow
Hell I'm feeling ill from reading it! Sorry that you're missing the kids so soon - but look at it this way: next time you see 'em will be even better than today!

652 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:46:29pm

re: #648 redc1c4

i bought it used, so the shank didn't make a dime off of me.

"shank"?

653 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:46:46pm

Don't forget everyone - fruitcup comes a hour early tonight!

654 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:47:04pm

re: #648 redc1c4

i bought it used, so the shank didn't make a dime off of me.

skank.

PIFW

655 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:47:23pm

re: #643 redc1c4

it's written by some spoiled liberal writer, who decided to write about the downtrodden underclass in America, by living as one for for a few weeks here and there... every time stuff got hard, or the j*b sucked, or her own decisions caused her to run out of money, she went back home.

it's bullshit, through and through. life at the bottom is hard, but unlike this princess, you have to suck it up and live it.

Oh boy. I figured as such. You would think that it would be written by someone that was actually on the bottom but instead you get the "Chocolat" version written by yet another elitist liberal basket case.

I know. If you take my advice you'll probably get a failing grade. That's how those college profs work.

656 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:47:45pm

re: #642 Ojoe

Over at Newsmax, this:

He's going to get some of us killed.

But he spits in Britain's face. They are our best ally yet he wants to cozy to "moderate" Taliban.

657 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:47:55pm

re: #623 OldLineTexan

Yeah, I actually went a few times AFTER the craze rolled by, but BEFORE it burned down. They had a rodeo arena! I saw Neil Young and International Harvester there once. But that was on the OTHER side of the freeway.

After completing my edumacation, I worked in Clear Lake for 9 years (lived near Friendswood).

I went to Gilley's once...that was enough, no mechanical bull riding for me.

I opened the Gallagher's on Nasa Road One. I remember when Kemah was a fishing village where you bought good fresh shrimp for Sunday's Oiler games.

658 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:48:23pm

re: #637 Afrocity

I can relate to that. I have two older brothers and a younger brother and younger sister. I was the "good one". I did well is school, worked around the house, etc, etc. Meanwhile, my oldest brother was always in trouble and my sister was the same...I was kinda lost in the shuffle as I required very little input from them both.

Oh well, my parent's and I have a great relationship now

659 Killer Tomato  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:48:27pm

re: #647 reine.de.tout

I'm female and I barely broke 100 pounds! (although I have to admit, I did eat a lot)

660 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:48:46pm

re: #657 jorline

I went to Gilley's once...that was enough, no mechanical bull riding for me.

I opened the Gallagher's on Nasa Road One. I remember when Kemah was a fishing village where you bought good fresh shrimp for Sunday's Oiler games.

You bet. I ate at that Gallagher's once or twice. I miss those.

661 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:49:01pm

re: #642 Ojoe

Over at Newsmax, this:

He's going to get some of us killed.

Actually, the Army has been saying this for a while. They want to try splitting the Taliban the same way as they split the Mahdi Army in Iraq. It might work as long we don't forget to hammer any who refuse our invitations. The idea should be to provide both positve and negative examples. To borrow from the Chinese saying: "Charity for those who cooperate, Severity for those for resist."

662 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:49:20pm

re: #656 Afrocity

But he spits in Britain's face. They are our best ally yet he wants to cozy to "moderate" Taliban.


"Moderate" Taliban...must be the one minus the AK-47?


/S

663 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:49:22pm

re: #624 reine.de.tout

Mickey Lee Gilley is Jimmy Lee Swaggart's cousin.

and Jerry Lee Lewis is cousin to both of them.

I knew about Jerry Lee Lewis, but not Swaggart. The family reunions must have been interesting.

664 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:49:27pm

re: #653 gmsc

Don't forget everyone - fruitcup comes a hour early tonight!

Its daylight saving time
It isnt worth a dime...

665 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:49:37pm

re: #648 redc1c4

i bought it used, so the shank didn't make a dime off of me.

I got hit twice ...once in lit, once in sociology (don't throw anything at me!)

The other one they just luuuv is Fight Club.

666 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:49:59pm

re: #662 Dustyvet

"Moderate" Taliban...must be the one minus the AK-47?

/S

I thought that was 17 less virgins.

//

667 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:50:16pm

The lawmakers should have to get a toddler through the hour change twice a year, every year, until they drop this idea.

668 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:50:18pm

Lawmaker takes on new role in Islamic advocacy group

State Sen. Larry Shaw has already gotten hate mail since he was named chairman of a national Muslim civil rights organization last week.

It’s nothing new, said the Fayetteville Democrat, the new chairman of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

“I get a lot of hate mail,” Shaw said Friday. “Just because I’m Muslim and because of CAIR, what CAIR stands for.”

A lot more may be heading his way.

The eight-term legislator, whose District 21 covers Fort Bragg and much of Fayetteville, generally is a low-key politician. But assuming a top leadership post with CAIR could thrust Shaw into a controversial national spotlight.

669 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:50:24pm

re: #666 Gus 802

I thought that was 17 less virgins.

//

Ding...:)

670 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:50:41pm

re: #669 Dustyvet

Ding...:)

Thanks Dusty! :)

671 NY Nana  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:50:42pm

re: #606 Desert Dog

hope you had your stuff backed up...did you?

It's me, NY Grampa: I just backed up NY Nana's documents and pictures.I am unsure what else such as program files should be backed up. I just bought a Seagate 250GB Portable hard drive.

672 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:51:17pm

re: #670 Gus 802

Thanks Dusty! :)

Welcomes...:)

673 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:51:24pm

re: #664 DEZes

Its daylight saving time
It isnt worth a dime...

We don't change our clocks here in AZ. So, in a few hours, we will be Pacific time, rather than Mountain Time. It gets confusing for people outside of Arizona sometimes.

If you have ever been here in the summer months, you understand why we really don't want any extra sunlight...

674 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:51:26pm

re: #636 Dustyvet

I've not seen one since I lived out in Salt Lake City in 1979.

Your lucky...hey, I was born at Hill AFB. My mother grew up in Ogden.

675 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:52:25pm

re: #668 NJDhockeyfan

Lawmaker takes on new role in Islamic advocacy group

His constituents should bounce this wolf in sheep's clothing out on his ass. CAIR is nothing but an Islamist front.

676 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:52:40pm

re: #655 Gus 802

Oh boy. I figured as such. You would think that it would be written by someone that was actually on the bottom but instead you get the "Chocolat" version written by yet another elitist liberal basket case.

I know. If you take my advice you'll probably get a failing grade. That's how those college profs work.

i made it perfectly clear with my first submission that my taking the class was a complete waste of time. it's the letter i wrote to another school, outlining why the program i was paying for wasn't the one they advertised and why they should refund my money, even though we were past the cutoff date.

a 6.5 (13, double spaced) page tour de force that got me the refund, written in classic liberal arts style... i need to take this class like a fish needs a bicycle.

677 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:52:57pm

re: #674 jorline

Your lucky...hey, I was born at Hill AFB. My mother grew up in Ogden.

Cools, we used to do some of our Utah Guard stuff up at Hill AFB.

678 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:53:09pm

re: #660 OldLineTexan

You bet. I ate at that Gallagher's once or twice. I miss those.

Great Prime Rib! I worked for them for 8 years...St. Patrick's was a blast.

679 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:53:11pm

re: #673 Desert Dog

We don't change our clocks here in AZ. So, in a few hours, we will be Pacific time, rather than Mountain Time. It gets confusing for people outside of Arizona sometimes.

If you have ever been here in the summer months, you understand why we really don't want any extra sunlight...

Never really understood it here, it wont be long till its still daylight at 10 pm.

680 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:53:30pm

re: #633 pink freud

As the mom of a 20 year old daughter, I believe that if I had to trust her safety to someone, the qualities you've listed would put my heart at ease.

There are times when I think our only true peace of mind comes from the rock- solid knowledge that we raised them well.

It sounds like she chose her man well.

Thank you. I agree, and the dogs agree.

681 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:53:37pm

re: #628 Dustyvet
Well hell, don't go to worrying over something that hasn't happened yet - you may be pleasantly surprised!

682 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:54:33pm

re: #676 redc1c4

i need to take this class like a fish needs a bicycle.

Fish goan need dat bike lessen he can buy some carbon credits, else he kin walk.

/Luster, from Faulkner's The Sound and the Fury, updated for 2009

683 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:54:37pm

re: #671 NY Nana

It's me, NY Grampa: I just backed up NY Nana's documents and pictures.I am unsure what else such as program files should be backed up. I just bought a Seagate 250GB Portable hard drive.

Make a "rescue" disk from your McAfee. That will allow you to reload programs. Otherwise, keep all your disks handy.

I had a hard drive failure a few years ago and I lost A LOT of stuff...most of the MP3 files bit the dust. I did not have them backed up. I was almost ready to hang myself until I remembered my friend copied them all to his external drive. I still lost pictures, documents...it was a drag. Since then, I am MR. BACKUP...everyday

684 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:54:46pm

re: #681 realwest

Well hell, don't go to worrying over something that hasn't happened yet - you may be pleasantly surprised!

This dimwit worries about most everything...:)

685 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:54:56pm

The Chicago Tribune is running a story about Obama's speechwriter - a 27 year old.

His words, the president's voice
Obama has called his head speechwriter a mind-reader. And at age 27, his prose is being acclaimed worldwide

Just Words..

686 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:55:15pm

re: #680 Kosh's Shadow
Hello Kosh, how are you this fine day?

687 Syrah  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:55:25pm

Good night Lizards. We are all being robbed of an hour's sleep tonight so I will be tucking in early.

I just might get to try out my new YakTrax this Sunday.

They are a clever idea. Black ice is pretty scary stuff to be walking around on.

But odds are that none of this snow will last much past sunrise.

688 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:56:17pm

re: #665 pink freud

I got hit twice ...once in lit, once in sociology (don't throw anything at me!)

The other one they just luuuv is Fight Club.

my anthro 101 teacher informed us with a perfectly serious face, that "the rich" were funding NASA's exploration of Mars, so they could set up colonies there, since they have destroyed the Earth with global warming, and that they would use global warming to make Mars habitable...

/she was *not* kidding: i asked.

689 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:56:19pm

re: #685 Afrocity
Are you feeling better yet?

690 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:56:47pm

The cost of the "Healthy Penis" campaign

We told you that Mark Bogetich, a Republican "political vulnerability researcher," had requested a variety of information about the Department of Public Health's new "Healthy Penis" campaign.

He wouldn't say why, but it could be used someday against Mayor Gavin Newsom in his run for governor. After all, health staffers walking around in giant penis costumes to promote syphillis testing might not play well in certain parts of the state.

The Public Health Department has prepared its response for Bogetich. Some of the information isn't available, such as the price of the costumes. But this is what we do know: The budget for the program this year is $122,575.

Of that, $59,980 is for advertising in the Bay Area Reporter, on Muni buses, and on 92.7 FM. The rest is for staff, including a part-time Web designer, creative director and product manager.

Our favorite "Healthy Penis"-related job is managing its presence on social networking sites including Facebook, Twitter and MySpace. Yes, "Healthy Penis" will have its own Facebook page. We can only imagine the status updates.

Is $122,575 a reasonable price for promoting STD testing? Or is that too much considering the health department has been asked to cut $100 million of its $1 billion budget to help the city bridge its budget deficit? Discuss.

691 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:57:04pm

re: #677 Dustyvet

Cools, we used to do some of our Utah Guard stuff up at Hill AFB.

I miss the mountains. We moved to Ogden for one year while my father was doing his tour in Nam...then we moved to Texas. Is the Lagoon amusement park still around?

692 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:57:18pm

re: #685 Afrocity

The Chicago Tribune is running a story about Obama's speechwriter - a 27 year old.

Just Words..

One day a young man was visiting the fair. Over to one side was a small tent
, with a sign that said 'For 50 dollars I'll teach you to be a mind reader
! - Apply within.'

So the young man thought that he'd give it a go, and went inside. Behind a small table inside was an old man, who looked up when the young man entered and says, 'Ah, you must be here for the mind reading lessons.'

'Er, yes,' the young man said.

'Well, follow me, and I'll give you your first lesson.'

Then the old man goes out the back of the tent and comes back with a hose. 'Here, hold this hose,' he said.

'Why?' said the young man.

'It's part of the lesson,' replies the old man, 'Now, look in the end and tell me what you see.'

So the young man looks into the end of the hose, and only sees darkness. 'I don't see anything,' he tells the old man.

Just then the old man turns on a tap, and the hose shoots water into the young man's face.

'I just knew you'd do something like that.' the young man shouts at the old man.

'There. You are now a mind reader!' the old man replies, 'That'll be 50 dollars!'

693 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:57:20pm

re: #676 redc1c4

You could always just write some blather. What I mean is just write some stereotypical "end of the world/I'm a victim" liberal pablum. I'm pretty sure you could come up with something. Add some slight irony and its a keeper.

694 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:57:26pm

re: #689 DEZes

Are you feeling better yet?

Yes, I am thank you for asking.

695 yochanan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:57:42pm

re: #647 reine.de.tout

rofl!
I have 3 brothers, and do not understand how mom and dad afforded to feed them.

Mandy, earlier to day, was upset that her son ate something she needed for dinner tonight. We were trying to tell her that boys simply eat a lot.

i have 3 sons a pair of twins and 1 that was 2 years older cheaper to cloth them than feed um.
we could get cloths at goodwill but food we had to pay wholesale or retail

696 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:58:02pm

re: #685 Afrocity

The Chicago Tribune is running a story about Obama's speechwriter - a 27 year old.

Just Words..

Maybe we should have elected him? He has all of Obama's "ideas". It appears Obama does not have an original thought in his head by the way he drags around his teleprompter "crutch".

697 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:58:21pm

re: #688 redc1c4

my anthro 101 teacher informed us with a perfectly serious face, that "the rich" were funding NASA's exploration of Mars, so they could set up colonies there, since they have destroyed the Earth with global warming, and that they would use global warming to make Mars habitable...

/she was *not* kidding: i asked.

/Didn't you get the memo? This ships leave just after The One's second inaugural.

698 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:58:31pm

re: #688 redc1c4

my anthro 101 teacher informed us with a perfectly serious face, that "the rich" were funding NASA's exploration of Mars, so they could set up colonies there, since they have destroyed the Earth with global warming, and that they would use global warming to make Mars habitable...

/she was *not* kidding: i asked.

This happens a lot these days ... anthro and soc majors just can't handle peyote and other native drugs like my generation did ... screws 'em up so bad, they stay and teach ...

/

699 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:58:47pm

re: #691 jorline

I miss the mountains. We moved to Ogden for one year while my father was doing his tour in Nam...then we moved to Texas. Is the Lagoon amusement park still around?

No idea, I was just there in 1978-79, then moved back to Minnesota.

700 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:59:06pm

re: #676 redc1c4

i made it perfectly clear with my first submission that my taking the class was a complete waste of time. it's the letter i wrote to another school, outlining why the program i was paying for wasn't the one they advertised and why they should refund my money, even though we were past the cutoff date.

a 6.5 (13, double spaced) page tour de force that got me the refund, written in classic liberal arts style... i need to take this class like a fish needs a bicycle.

My best friend and I both took the same class on Latin America in college (though we took it in different quarters). Both of us were the most hated man in the class when we took it (though the professor, who is a liberal, graded us fairly and was always respectful). The issue of Communism (especially relating to Cuba), lead to constant verbal firefights between us and the moonbats in class.

701 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:59:08pm

re: #685 Afrocity

The Chicago Tribune is running a story about Obama's speechwriter - a 27 year old.

Just Words..

I read about that guy during the campaign. What a joke.

702 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:59:32pm

re: #696 Desert Dog

Maybe we should have elected him? He has all of Obama's "ideas". It appears Obama does not have an original thought in his head by the way he drags around his teleprompter "crutch".

That Favreau is the idiot who groped the cardbord Hillary Clinton's breasts, and he is dating a former Maxim covergirl who is now working at the White House. I think Obama's speeches sound canned.

703 Buster Bunny  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:59:47pm

re: #697 EmmmieG

/Didn't you get the memo? This ships leave just after The One's second inaugural.

There will be no second.

704 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:59:59pm

re: #698 OldLineTexan

This happens a lot these days ... anthro and soc majors just can't handle peyote and other native drugs like my generation did ... screws 'em up so bad, they stay and teach ...

/

The criers.

705 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:00:34pm

re: #634 Silvergirl
Well it's only available on the Internet, but I think it's the most spot on political comic strip I've ever read.
Love to let it go for a few days and then read several in a row.
Chris Muir is some kinda damn genius!

706 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:00:36pm

re: #694 Afrocity

Yes, I am thank you for asking.

Great, nothing worse than an under the weather lizard. ;)

707 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:01:52pm

Howdy!

Good news for me; my Kimber didn't need warranty work after all. Minor problem, was easily fixed.

Next topic (for those interested); what are the best grips for an M1911? I like my stock ones okay, but am looking to pick up another set.

708 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:02:13pm

For the moonbat prof:

After The Goldrush
lyrics by Neil Young

---
Well, I dreamed I saw the knights
In armor coming,
Saying something about a queen.
There were peasants singing and
Drummers drumming
And the archer split the tree.
There was a fanfare blowing
To the sun
That was floating on the breeze.
Look at Mother Nature on the run
In the nineteen seventies.
Look at Mother Nature on the run
In the nineteen seventies.

I was lying in a burned out basement
With the full moon in my eyes.
I was hoping for replacement
When the sun burst thru the sky.
There was a band playing in my head
And I felt like getting high.
I was thinking about what a
Friend had said
I was hoping it was a lie.
Thinking about what a
Friend had said
I was hoping it was a lie.

Well, I dreamed I saw the silver
Space ships flying
In the yellow haze of the sun,
There were children crying
And colors flying
All around the chosen ones.
All in a dream, all in a dream
The loading had begun.
They were flying Mother Nature's
Silver seed to a new home in the sun.
Flying Mother Nature's
Silver seed to a new home.

709 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:02:18pm

re: #685 Afrocity

The Chicago Tribune is running a story about Obama's speechwriter - a 27 year old.

Just Words..

He's the most experienced speechwriter that would agree to work with 0bama.

710 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:02:28pm

re: #688 redc1c4

my anthro 101 teacher informed us with a perfectly serious face, that "the rich" were funding NASA's exploration of Mars, so they could set up colonies there, since they have destroyed the Earth with global warming, and that they would use global warming to make Mars habitable...

/she was *not* kidding: i asked.

My anthro prof taught me one really memorable thing the entire semester. During a particularly boring lecture about zombie culture, he took a detour to tell us about his own personal story (of cultural/social ostracism and its effects on the individual).

He was diagnosed with cancer and told he had 6 months to live. He was an individual with a strong will and mind. He said he rejected that death sentence, just flat rejected it. He went hog-wild on lifestyle and diet modifications. This was ten years before he told us the story, and he was cancer-free. I will never forget it.

711 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:02:52pm

re: #702 Afrocity

That Favreau is the idiot who groped the cardbord Hillary Clinton's breasts, and he is dating a former Maxim covergirl who is now working at the White House. I think Obama's speeches sound canned.

Wonderful. It's official...no grown ups over at the White House. To see how good his speeches are. Listen to one, then read the text. You are right, they are canned. Full of generalizations and offer very little intellectually. With Obama, it's all about his "performance", not about what he is actually saying. He could read the phone book and some people would be inspired because of the way he reads it

712 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:03:03pm

re: #707 Occasional Reader

Howdy!

Good news for me; my Kimber didn't need warranty work after all. Minor problem, was easily fixed.

Next topic (for those interested); what are the best grips for an M1911? I like my stock ones okay, but am looking to pick up another set.

Hey, OR.

713 Kragar  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:03:06pm

Well, just returned home from one of the most unpleasant evenings in a long time. An old friend of mine and my wife was in town, so he invited us over to his hotel. He did not think to mention he had his girlfriend with him, nor tell her we were coming. After about an hour and a half of the GF getting progressively drunker and spending most of the time giggling and making comments under her breath, she finally speaks to my wife and asks "So, have you f***ed him to?". We were out the door in the next 5 minutes.

714 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:03:17pm

re: #693 Gus 802

You could always just write some blather. What I mean is just write some stereotypical "end of the world/I'm a victim" liberal pablum. I'm pretty sure you could come up with something. Add some slight irony and its a keeper.

naw... the author whined about cleaning hotels and houses, especially the latrines... i think i'll regale her with how it brought back all my fun times in the Army and how it taught me what was important in life and that quitting isn't a valid option.

IOW: she didn't do shit and when the pressure came on, she folded. a very subtle slam on the book and the author, and by extension her, for picking such twaddle,

715 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:03:48pm

As a squad of American soldiers was patrolling the Iraqi border, they came across a badly mangled dead body. As they got closer, they found it was an Iraqi Terrorist.

A short distance up the road, they found a badly mangled American soldier in a ditch on the other side of the road, struggling to breath. They ran to him, cradled his blood-covered head and asked him what had happened.

'Well,' he whispered, 'I was walking down this road, armed to the teeth when I came across this heavily armed Iraqi Terrorist . I looked him right in the eye and shouted, 'Osama Bin Ladin is an unscrupulous, lying piece of crap!''

'He looked me right in the eye and shouted back, Barak Obama is an unscrupulous, lying piece of crap!''
'We were standing there shaking hands when the truck hit us.'

716 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:03:57pm

re: #707 Occasional Reader

Howdy!

Good news for me; my Kimber didn't need warranty work after all. Minor problem, was easily fixed.

Next topic (for those interested); what are the best grips for an M1911? I like my stock ones okay, but am looking to pick up another set.

Pachmayrs are practical, but not dressy.

Rosewood is classic.

I still say you need some Mexican silver grips.

Just no ivory, OK?

/

717 Buster Bunny  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:04:31pm

re: #709 gmsc

He's the most experienced speechwriter that would agree to work with 0bama.

What .. you mean the O aint gonna redeem us and save our souls from the hell of GWB ? I'm so disappointed.

There goes my redemption discount vouchers.

718 jorline  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:04:32pm

Time for bed...good night. Lizards.

719 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:05:17pm

re: #696 Desert Dog

Maybe we should have elected him? He has all of Obama's "ideas". It appears Obama does not have an original thought in his head by the way he drags around his teleprompter "crutch".

What ideas? All he ever writes for Obama is variations on "Hope! Change! It's all the GOP's fault! and "We need to be nice to people who want to kill us."

720 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:05:23pm

re: #702 Afrocity
Did you see a doctor? I know its none of my bees wax just wondering.

721 OldLineTexan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:06:05pm

I'm out too. Remember the clocks.

722 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:06:08pm

re: #713 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Unbelievable.

723 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:06:50pm

re: #684 Dustyvet Hey Dusty, I know from your e-mails that you ain't a dimwit.
You just worry about stuff you have no control over - lots of us do that.
Hell, it's what keeps therapists and certain pharmaceutical companies in business!

724 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:07:23pm

re: #707 Occasional Reader

Howdy!

Good news for me; my Kimber didn't need warranty work after all. Minor problem, was easily fixed.

Next topic (for those interested); what are the best grips for an M1911? I like my stock ones okay, but am looking to pick up another set.

that's strictly a personal preference... you're gonna have to go try some out and see.

725 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:07:34pm

re: #714 redc1c4

Oh, cool. Yeah scratch an "activist" find yet another hum drum person. Sounds like she might be trying to fit in with a prescribed cultural requirement.

726 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:07:49pm

re: #713 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Wow, just wow!

727 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:07:52pm

re: #716 OldLineTexan

Pachmayrs are practical, but not dressy.

Rosewood is classic.

I still say you need some Mexican silver grips.

Just no ivory, OK?

/

Hm. Why do you like the Packmayrs?

I actually already ordered some rosewood grips... agreed, you just can't not have them.

And Mexican grips are just doing the jobs that American grips won't do.

728 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:08:01pm

re: #718 jorline

Time for bed...good night. Lizards.

Good night, jorline. Don't forget to set your clocks a hour forwards.

729 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:08:08pm

re: #721 OldLineTexan

Later.

730 NY Nana  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:08:22pm

re: #573 reine.de.tout

I'll bet it is.
Right now, my daughter is at an age where I can't wait for her to leave. She's driving me nuts. And I'm driving her nuts.

But I suspect that will change.

It is amazing when a daughter marries and has her first child. You become a fount of knowledge, and she will look up to you. Once my daughter (my 3 sons are not like my daughter!;) had her now 2 1/2 year old son? She was calling me all the time. From a resident of the NY State Home for the Terminally Stupid, I became her text book. And she still has a very much different relationship ever since, and we are very close...it is a wonderful time of life, as I do not have to keep a straight face when the little guy does something funny! That is a privilege we earn, as we had to keep a straight face when our kids were growing up!

A public service announcement: Change your clocks, etc., at 2 AM your time!

731 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:08:32pm

Goodnght, jorline. :-)

732 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:08:40pm

re: #711 Desert Dog

Wonderful. It's official...no grown ups over at the White House. To see how good his speeches are. Listen to one, then read the text. You are right, they are canned. Full of generalizations and offer very little intellectually. With Obama, it's all about his "performance", not about what he is actually saying. He could read the phone book and some people would be inspired because of the way he reads it

No doubt. All dictators love young impressionable minds.
I don't think anyone knows what the hell is going on in the White House.
Protocol and tradition is being broken.
Obama sends bust of Churchill back to UK, treats Brown rudely.

733 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:09:25pm

re: #713 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Dear Penthouse, I had an experience I just have to tell you about. Well, just returned home from one of the most unpleasant evenings in a long time. An old friend of mine and my wife was in town, so he invited us over to his hotel. He did not think to mention he had his girlfriend with him, nor tell her we were coming. After about an hour and a half of the GF getting progressively drunker and spending most of the time giggling and making comments under her breath, she finally speaks to my wife and asks "So, have you f***ed him to?". We were out the door in the next 5 minutes.

FTFY!

/bummer that the evening sucked.

734 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:10:07pm

re: #720 DEZes

Did you see a doctor? I know its none of my bees wax just wondering.

No, it was a bad cold. It take months to see a doctor in Chicago. I am having surgery later this month so I am trying to be doc free until then.

735 Kragar  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:10:45pm

re: #722 Afrocity

Unbelievable.

Yeah, we were kind of feeling uncomfortable after the first 30 minutes, but like I said, this was a good friend we hadn't seen for a long time, so were trying to make the best of it and hope she would loosen up some. My wife and I were already starting to give each other the "lets rap this up" signals when she dropped that bomb. I'm pissed with my buddy to for putting us in that situation. He didn't tell us or her to expect the other till we called from the hotel lobby asking his room number.

736 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:10:49pm

re: #732 Afrocity

Obama's so clueless he doesn't even know who his friends are.

737 So?  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:10:50pm

Must be tired, I posted my comment in the wrong thread...here it is.

I heard about 4 or 5 riffs that were interesting and could be the basis for few songs. Other than that he did was just steam rollin', like a pinball flying haphazardly all over the place once released. Yeah so he's fast. Means dick if there's no cohesive for your notes to hang out in the musical universe.


But then again, that's just me.

738 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:10:53pm

re: #716 OldLineTexan

Pachmayrs are practical, but not dressy.

Rosewood is classic.

I still say you need some Mexican silver grips.

Just no ivory, OK?

/

Well, there is some fossilized ivory that's legal to buy. Still, it sticks me as too fragile and too smooth. Rosewood would be a much better choice. .45's are for shooting, looking good is a secondary matter.

739 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:11:08pm

re: #721 OldLineTexan

I'm out too. Remember the clocks.

i never set mine back from last fall...

/messes with people's minds when they visit. %-)

740 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:11:24pm

re: #685 Afrocity
Oh great. From your link:

Favreau, or "Favs" to his friends and co-workers, is the second-youngest person ever to work as chief White House speechwriter. Only James Fallows was younger—by a mere two months—when he started as Jimmy Carter's top speechwriter.

[emphasis added,realwest].
That's part of the problem - I'm not saying the guy can't write but at 27 I'd respectfully submit that he doesn't have any real world experience to give his writing any real heft. Sorta like his boss. No wonder the two of 'em get along so well.

741 Kragar  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:12:05pm

re: #733 redc1c4

FTFY!

/bummer that the evening sucked.

Wasn't a complete loss, sitter had the kids for another hour so I got to take the wife to the best taco stand in all of San Diego

742 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:12:29pm

re: #736 Gus 802

Obama's so clueless he doesn't even know who his friends are.

he has friends? i thought they were sycophants...

743 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:12:38pm

re: #734 Afrocity

Surgery? again none of my business, but I do wish you well.

744 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:12:39pm

re: #734 Afrocity

No, it was a bad cold. It take months to see a doctor in Chicago. I am having surgery later this month so I am trying to be doc free until then.

You must not use the same network of docs my family uses. We rarely have to wait more than a week or two.

745 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:12:42pm

re: #740 realwest

Oh great. From your link:

[emphasis added,realwest].
That's part of the problem - I'm not saying the guy can't write but at 27 I'd respectfully submit that he doesn't have any real world experience to give his writing any real heft. Sorta like his boss. No wonder the two of 'em get along so well.

He wrote the now famous "race speech" too.
No comment.

746 So?  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:12:58pm

re: #742 redc1c4

he has friends? i thought they were sycophants...

Maybe he's also glueless.

747 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:13:37pm

re: #740 realwest

Real, when a person hires someone like this as Chief of White House staff, you know beyond a doubt that the children are in charge.

748 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:14:12pm

re: #743 DEZes

Surgery? again none of my business, but I do wish you well.

same here: surgery is never fun, and there's no such thing as "minor surgery".

749 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:14:38pm

re: #742 redc1c4

he has friends? i thought they were sycophants...

He probably wouldn't even notice that. Don't forget he claims ignorance regarding Rezko. You're right then. I would say Obama would be clueless regardless. He would not know a friend or an enemy coming or going.

750 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:14:39pm

re: #746 So?

Maybe he's also glueless.

that makes it a stick situation for us.

751 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:14:54pm

re: #747 pink freud

Real, when a person hires someone like this as Chief of White House staff, you know beyond a doubt that the children jackasses are in charge.

fixed

752 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:15:11pm

re: #745 Afrocity

He wrote the now famous "race speech" too.
No comment.

Why, that speech redefined race relations in the United States, didn't it?

///

(but wait, we're still all "cowards" because we don't talk about race, even after that... I'm so confused)

753 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:15:25pm

re: #708 OldLineTexan
Well y'all can take this anyway you want to, but I always thought that was one of Neil Youngs best songs and the Album is one of the proverbial 10 I'd take to a desereted Island. Moonbat yes, great songwriter, yes.

754 So?  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:15:29pm

Wouldn't it be funny if Obama pulled a Michael Jackson and started altering his appearance every 6 months.

755 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:15:35pm

re: #750 redc1c4

that makes it a stick situation for us.

As in "Whack him with a cluestick", right?

756 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:16:09pm

re: #732 Afrocity

No doubt. All dictators love young impressionable minds.
I don't think anyone knows what the hell is going on in the White House.
Protocol and tradition is being broken.
Obama sends bust of Churchill back to UK, treats Brown rudely.

Someone should tell our beloved President that one of the functions of his job involve the ceremony and tradition of meeting visiting Heads of State. The United Kingdom is one of our most important and longtime allies. The way he treated PM Brown was truly amazing. They called Bush an idiot, but he never acted the way Obama did to any visiting Head of State, no matter how big or how small. Pathetic

757 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:16:58pm

re: #755 Dark_Falcon

As in "Whack him with a cluestick", right?

that too, although my fat fingers were supposed to type "sticky" to make the glue pun.

758 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:17:23pm

re: #748 redc1c4

same here: surgery is never fun, and there's no such thing as "minor surgery".


Thats a fact, I lost a dear family member to minor surgery, Afrocity will be in my prayers.

759 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:17:40pm

re: #686 DEZes

Hello Kosh, how are you this fine day?

OK, just that I have some online teaching I need to get done and as I said earlier, my daughter moved down to Maryland with her boyfriend. He's completing the MD State Police Academy and she's starting a job as the a case manager at a drug court.

Meanwhile letting my brain turn to mush watching stuff on Hulu.
My wife and I watched two Hawaii-50 episodes and a Hogan's Heroes; then I watched Farscape on Fancast, and now an Alfred Hitchcock.
But I'm supposed to finish some online teaching (no problem what time of day I do it)

760 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:17:43pm

re: #755 Dark_Falcon

As in "Whack him with a cluestick", right?

maybe wh should split the difference and whack him with a glue stick?

761 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:17:48pm

re: #754 So?

Wouldn't it be funny if Obama pulled a Michael Jackson and started altering his appearance every 6 months.

He already suffers from Multiple President Personality Disorder.

Lincoln today, FDR tomorrow, Reagan this week, Kennedy for his photo ops.

762 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:17:58pm

re: #756 Desert Dog

Someone should tell our beloved President that one of the functions of his job involve the ceremony and tradition of meeting visiting Heads of State. The United Kingdom is one of our most important and longtime allies. The way he treated PM Brown was truly amazing. They called Bush an idiot, but he never acted the way Obama did to any visiting Head of State, no matter how big or how small. Pathetic

Europe will find that they will miss George W. Bush. He is a man who knows how to be a good host. Obama is a spoiled and petulant child.

763 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:19:00pm

re: #759 Kosh's Shadow
Well thanks for my online teaching last night, I wish you well.

764 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:19:04pm

re: #756 Desert Dog

He is meeting the Queen soon. I hope that goes better and he does not give her a DVD of The Queen

765 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:19:13pm

re: #760 redc1c4

maybe wh should split the difference and whack him with a glue stick?

Only if we can stick him to the wall after wards. :)

766 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:19:30pm

re: #756 Desert Dog

Someone should tell our beloved President that one of the functions of his job involve the ceremony and tradition of meeting visiting Heads of State. The United Kingdom is one of our most important and longtime allies. The way he treated PM Brown was truly amazing. They called Bush an idiot, but he never acted the way Obama did to any visiting Head of State, no matter how big or how small. Pathetic

But- he was just tired. [insert eye-roll]

767 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:20:18pm

re: #762 Dark_Falcon

Europe will find that they will miss George W. Bush. He is a man who knows how to be a good host. Obama is a spoiled and petulant child.

He is that but I also believe that he hates America.
Sorry that is strong but honestly that is the way I feel.

768 NY Nana  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:20:25pm

re: #683 Desert Dog

Make a "rescue" disk from your McAfee. That will allow you to reload programs. Otherwise, keep all your disks handy.

I had a hard drive failure a few years ago and I lost A LOT of stuff...most of the MP3 files bit the dust. I did not have them backed up. I was almost ready to hang myself until I remembered my friend copied them all to his external drive. I still lost pictures, documents...it was a drag. Since then, I am MR. BACKUP...everyday

NY Grampa here, too lazy to sign in. McAfee is not on the computer as the corruption will not allow us to download it from AOL.

If I copy the program files will that allow them to be re-installed without searching for discs or on-line? Thank you.

NY Nana said to put up her email if that is easier for you, so that it is blue. We are getting ready to go to bed as it has been a tiring day!

769 So?  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:20:28pm

Oh now O know what I wanted to ask, too bad I got her so late. Is this guitarist Trigger Girlie's squeeze? For those who knew/know her. Her husband plays i a heavy metal band. Looked like him. Any way good nite.

770 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:20:33pm

re: #762 Dark_Falcon

Petulant is an accurate descriptor of Obama.

771 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:20:40pm

re: #761 Afrocity

He already suffers from Multiple President Personality Disorder.

Lincoln today, FDR tomorrow, Reagan this week, Kennedy for his photo ops.

And he's not worthy to compare himself to any of them. Obama needs to start acting like a man, and then he can compare himself to them.

772 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:20:42pm

re: #764 Afrocity

He is meeting the Queen soon. I hope that goes better and he does not give her a DVD of The Queen

He'll apologize for Ticonderoga.

773 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:20:59pm

re: #758 DEZes

Thats a fact, I lost a dear family member to minor surgery, Afrocity will be in my prayers.

i've w*rked both OR and L&D support. not to scare anyone, but the list of things that can go wrong is literally endless. hell, we had two different mothers wind up with ruptured livers while giving birth about 2 weeks apart. one died, one got a liver transplant... just regular traditional, uncomplicated vaginal birth.

774 So?  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:21:11pm

re: #761 Afrocity

He already suffers from Multiple President Personality Disorder.

Lincoln today, FDR tomorrow, Reagan this week, Kennedy for his photo ops.

Hey, we should go on the road together.

775 tackle  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:21:46pm

re: #762 Dark_Falcon

Europe will find that they will miss George W. Bush. He is a man who knows how to be a good host. Obama is a spoiled and petulant child.

Interesting how it took the British media to bring it to our attention. America's MSM will be the last one to admit it.

776 Kragar  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:22:00pm

So anyone else seen Watchmen yet?

777 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:22:17pm

re: #772 Sharmuta

He'll apologize for Ticonderoga.

Give him some time and he might apologize for the American Revolution.

778 So?  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:22:17pm

re: #769 So?

Oh now O know what I wanted to ask, too bad I got her so late. Is this guitarist Trigger Girlie's squeeze? For those who knew/know her. Her husband plays i a heavy metal band. Looked like him. Any way good nite.

Man, I must be tired, my post is full of typos. C ya.

779 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:22:21pm

re: #767 Afrocity

He is that but I also believe that he hates America.
Sorry that is strong but honestly that is the way I feel.

I agree with you. His actions show a hatred for all developed countries. He favors the "global poor", only his idea of favoring them is to cozy up to the tyrants who enslave them.

780 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:22:24pm

re: #767 Afrocity

He is that but I also believe that he hates America.
Sorry that is strong but honestly that is the way I feel.

i think it starts out with him not liking himself...

/that's the only thing he gets right.

781 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:22:51pm

Well y'all given that we have to move the clocks ahead an hour, I'm waaay past my bedtime!
I hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

782 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:24:15pm

re: #758 DEZes

re: #773 redc1c4

GEE THANKS FOR THE WELL WISHES GUYS! (grabs bottle of Valium)

783 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:24:50pm

i'm gonna see if i can pound out the BS paper... BBIAB.

784 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:25:42pm

re: #782 Afrocity

re: #773 redc1c4

GEE THANKS FOR THE WELL WISHES GUYS! (grabs bottle of Valium)

no need to thank me: it's all part of the free service!

/take 2!

785 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:26:19pm

re: #780 redc1c4

i think it starts out with him not liking himself...

/that's the only thing he gets right.

His father abandoned him. His mother was another narcissist. His grandmother was described during the campaign. He's ashamed of his college records -- allegedly. He's weak of intellect at the very least. He stumbles with his words without a teleprompter. And, there's more.

786 Kragar  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:26:27pm

re: #782 Afrocity

re: #773 redc1c4

GEE THANKS FOR THE WELL WISHES GUYS! (grabs bottle of Valium)

Speaking of drugs, been on Lunesta and Ativan for 2 days now. My wife says she already see a difference. She says I seem more rested and calmer, not getting revved up and snapping as much as I had been. I dont really feel any different.

787 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:26:28pm

Wow, a new record. My son is home early...time for me to go to bed! Night all

788 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:27:01pm

re: #782 Afrocity

re: #773 redc1c4

GEE THANKS FOR THE WELL WISHES GUYS! (grabs bottle of Valium)


I just realized how stupid I was, PLEASE forgive me for being a callous dimwitted asshole.

789 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:27:36pm

re: #787 Desert Dog

night!

790 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:27:38pm

re: #786 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Speaking of drugs, been on Lunesta and Ativan for 2 days now. My wife says she already see a difference. She says I seem more rested and calmer, not getting revved up and snapping as much as I had been. I dont really feel any different.

you will be the last to notice...

791 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:28:09pm

re: #788 DEZes

Thanks because I am really nervous about it.

792 yochanan  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:28:11pm

re: #761 Afrocity

He already suffers from Multiple President Personality Disorder.

Lincoln today, FDR tomorrow, Reagan this week, Kennedy for his photo ops.

GOOD ONE

and have a refuah slamaha (complete recovery) on your dr. stuff.

793 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:28:16pm

re: #764 Afrocity

He is meeting the Queen soon. I hope that goes better and he does not give her a DVD of The Queen

He'll be giving her a DVD of He's Just Not That Into You.

794 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:28:38pm

Night all. I"m fading and I need to rest up.

795 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:30:17pm

re: #794 Dark_Falcon

Night. Hey is there heavy fog around your area?

796 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:30:31pm

Good night.

797 NY Nana  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:30:49pm

G'nite, Lizards!

So help me, I feel like it is 2:30 AM rather than 1:30 AM!

Sweet dreams, all!

798 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:31:29pm

re: #791 Afrocity
Please do us all a favor, be well.

799 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:32:34pm

re: #768 NY Nana

NY Grampa here, too lazy to sign in. McAfee is not on the computer as the corruption will not allow us to download it from AOL.

If I copy the program files will that allow them to be re-installed without searching for discs or on-line? Thank you.

NY Nana said to put up her email if that is easier for you, so that it is blue. We are getting ready to go to bed as it has been a tiring day!

Program files will have to be re-installed. You will need the original disks or need to re-download. Windows applications just need it; sometimes due to Windows and sometimes due to the apps themselves.
Especially XP and later; getting out of "DLL Hell" required some "magic" windows doesn't explain anywhere, but the installer handles.

800 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:32:42pm

Put on some patriotic music that will help keep you awake.

801 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:33:03pm

re: #777 Gus 802

Sorry about the whole tea party thing. You know- they're having new "tea parties" because of me- and I'm not every royalty like you, so take that, you Typical Whitey.

802 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:33:39pm

re: #798 DEZes

I'll try. I lost my mom less than 2 years ago. I am still sensitive about my mortality.

803 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:33:45pm

re: #801 Sharmuta

Que?

804 Kragar  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:33:50pm

re: #790 redc1c4

you will be the last to notice...

That a good thing or a bad thing? I'm always paranoid about medications, but after my scare, I got to do what I can to take care of my family.

805 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:34:16pm

re: #803 Gus 802

That was 0bama apologizing for the Revolution.

806 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:34:40pm

Maybe he'll insist we pay for the tea. The stuff from 1773.

807 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:34:45pm

re: #805 Sharmuta

Right. Slap me on the side of the head. I just got it. :)

808 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:36:28pm

re: #802 Afrocity

I'll try. I lost my mom less than 2 years ago. I am still sensitive about my mortality.


I understand, both my parents are gone.
I more than understand the loss and emotional turmoil.
I have no words.

809 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:37:01pm

re: #805 Sharmuta

Yeah, Obama speaking, "so sorry for resorting to violence during the American Revolution. So sorry for making the French our allies. Sorry for polluting the bay with tea. Sorry for the C02 emissions."

810 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:37:47pm

re: #801 Sharmuta

...black gold, Texas tea.

Well the first thing you know ol' Barack's a president,
Kinfolk said Barry move away from there
Said the White House is the place you ought to be
So they loaded up the hybrid and moved to DC

811 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:38:30pm

re: #805 Sharmuta

That was 0bama apologizing for the Revolution.

We should have compromised with the British. Without "pre-conditions."

812 Killer Tomato  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:39:47pm

re: #805 Sharmuta

God save the Queen.

813 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:40:26pm

Now, now. I'm sure 0bama will get the Queen a lovely and unique gift. Maybe a collection of Shakespeare plays.

814 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:40:36pm

re: #811 Gus 802

We should have compromised with the British. Without "pre-conditions."

Someone should have whispered in Obama's ear

"They are one of the good guys"

815 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:41:05pm

re: #812 Killer Tomato

God save the Queen.

Ironically she might be one of the few left with any common sense in the UK. Considering the ruling Labour party in power.

816 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:43:00pm

Okay, bedtime. I'm going to hate getting up "earlier" tomorrow.

Afrocity, I'm sure your surgery will go just fine.

817 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:43:14pm

re: #814 Afrocity

I don't think anyone did. That might explain the snub from Obama. Considering that even though it has been Labour the UK has been rather motivated in the prosecution in the war in Afghanistan. Although a bit minor in the terrorist safe-haven of Iraq.

818 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:43:54pm

re: #813 Sharmuta

Harrod's gift card for $25 USD (= 17.7230 GBP)

819 NY Nana  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:44:36pm

re: #799 Kosh's Shadow

NY Grampa here. Thanks for the heads up! I guess I will be doing a lot of surfing to get all NY Nana's programs back. I probably will not be doing anything at all until the afternoon.

820 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:46:13pm

re: #813 Sharmuta

Now, now. I'm sure 0bama will get the Queen a lovely and unique gift. Maybe a collection of Shakespeare plays.

Obama would say "I tried reading them once in the original English."

//

821 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:46:29pm

re: #818 Afrocity

An Egg of Power! She'll love it.

822 Killer Tomato  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:49:41pm

Maybe he could get her a Snuggie. Probably gets nippy in those drafty, old castles.

823 capitalist piglet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:50:55pm

re: #802 Afrocity

I'll try. I lost my mom less than 2 years ago. I am still sensitive about my mortality.

(((Afrocity)))

Me too. Some amazing things have happened to me since then though - I found, on eBay of all places, my mother's high school yearbook...I don't mean a copy, I mean the one that belonged to her. I also retrieved a copy of her high school biology notebook, and a scrapbook in which she had written her "life story" up to when she was 14.

I had never seen these items before, and had no idea they existed. Neither did my brother. The sellers bought them at an auction.

There is one more amazing spiritual story I have, but I'm not sure it's a good one for LGF...I will say, speaking only for myself of course, I have confidence that I have not seen the last of my parents.

I hope you've been able to find comfort too, Afrocity.

824 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:50:56pm

re: #821 Sharmuta

Sadly, your prediction may come true. I could see him doing that. I wonder if Michelle will curtsy...I bet ya $5 bucks she wont

825 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:54:16pm

re: #824 Afrocity

Sadly, your prediction may come true. I could see him doing that. I wonder if Michelle will curtsy...I bet ya $5 bucks she wont

She won't. Either that or she'll forget.

826 Killer Tomato  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:54:37pm

Gotta go change the clocks and get to bed.
Later!

827 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:55:16pm

re: #823 capitalist piglet

That is an amazing story! Her actual yearbook? what a great sign. I have had some incidents. Once I was in Macy's and I was sad about mom so I just grabbed some clothes off the rack and pretended to need a fitting room to try them on. I sat down in the small fitting room and balled my eyes out. Suddenly this woman began calling my mom's name. Of course someone in the room must have had my mom's name but it is not a common name. It made me feel better.

828 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:56:08pm

re: #822 Killer Tomato

Maybe he could get her a Snuggie. Probably gets nippy in those drafty, old castles.

*snort*

829 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:57:53pm

Let me tell you a story about a man that was red.
A Chicago dude that that was fucking over fed
And then one day he said I'm the fucking dude
He then gave the finger just to prove that he was rude
A prick that is...

830 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:59:31pm

re: #828 Sharmuta

Oh gee I forgot. I wonder if he will do some sort of Berlin redux. A grand speech in front of Big Ben or Trafalgar Square.

831 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:00:16pm

re: #829 DEZes

That sounds like Howard Dean in a private moment.

832 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:01:05pm

re: #829 DEZes

LOL, and he moved his Granny into the White House too.

833 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:01:28pm

re: #830 Afrocity

Oh gee I forgot. I wonder if he will do some sort of Berlin redux. A grand speech in front of Big Ben or Trafalgar Square.

No wait, wait. Let me guess. It will be about "global warming." That or how bad greedy Wall Street is.

834 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:01:28pm

re: #831 Gus 802

That sounds like Howard Dean in a private moment.

Did you mean public? ;)

835 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:02:33pm

re: #831 Gus 802

That sounds like Howard Dean in a private moment.

Is it true Obama has his eye on Dean for Surgeon General?

836 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:03:05pm

re: #835 Afrocity

Is it true Obama has his eye on Dean for Surgeon General?

Yes. That's what I heard.

837 capitalist piglet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:03:17pm

re: #827 Afrocity

That is an amazing story! Her actual yearbook? what a great sign. I have had some incidents. Once I was in Macy's and I was sad about mom so I just grabbed some clothes off the rack and pretended to need a fitting room to try them on. I sat down in the small fitting room and balled my eyes out. Suddenly this woman began calling my mom's name. Of course someone in the room must have had my mom's name but it is not a common name. It made me feel better.

That's a wonderful story, too! I would never dismiss that as a coincidence. I honestly believe they can send us comforting signs.

838 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:03:51pm

re: #833 Gus 802

Spot on. I bet he will set something huge up. Take the Greek pillars to London.

839 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:04:45pm

re: #838 Afrocity

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Reuters story.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Vermont governor Howard Dean was under consideration by the Obama administration for U.S. surgeon general, CNN reported on Friday, but a source said he was not interested in the post.

840 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:07:13pm

re: #839 Gus 802

It's official..he is Satan/

841 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:07:49pm

Time for this old man to hit the hey.
Great thing is I have to good girls to keep me warm

842 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:08:16pm

Boo-f**king-Hoo:

$1 Million Homeowner Wants Help

This made me so mad, I wanted to vomit:

WSJ: Some Win, Some Lose

It's a slideshow feature from the Wall Street Journal discussing three folks who'll (apparently) miss out on the sweet sweet gubmint cash soon to be handed out to struggling homeowners. The first gentleman stoked my blood pressure so high that I had to leave the room.

The ten-frame slideshow utilizes audio, so make sure you have that capability before clicking.

NOTE: I cannot be held responsible for the damaged keyboards and other possessions which will likely result from your viewing of such pathetic entitlement mentality as is displayed in the slideshow.

843 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:09:06pm

re: #819 NY Nana

You two are still up? Good luck with the computer problems.

Love ya.

844 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:09:07pm

After picking that retard for Treasury, Geithner, I doubt they would want to put in another complete idiot like Dean. Well, you would think.

My apologies to to real retards around the world.

//

845 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:10:10pm

I am going to bed.
You know I am truly disappoint in 52% of Americans voting for this man that I find absolutely frightening. We know little about him, his speeches are written by frat boy date rapists, he scoffs at American values, treats our friends rudely and our enemies with kid gloves. I just have a bad feeling about this.

846 Rustler  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:10:15pm

re: #824 Afrocity WAB curtsy? You know she won't hell she probably expects the Queen to curtsy for her.

847 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:11:14pm

re: #841 DEZes

Time for this old man to hit the hey.
Great thing is I have to good girls to keep me warm

"...And the northern girls with the way they kiss
They keep their boyfriends warm at night..."

848 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:11:14pm

re: #845 Afrocity

AMEN!

849 Afrocity  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:11:19pm

re: #841 DEZes

Time for this old man to hit the hey.
Great thing is I have to good girls to keep me warm

aw, my cats names are Moonraker and Solitaire.

850 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:11:53pm

re: #845 Afrocity

I am going to bed.
You know I am truly disappoint in 52% of Americans voting for this man that I find absolutely frightening. We know little about him, his speeches are written by frat boy date rapists, he scoffs at American values, treats our friends rudely and our enemies with kid gloves. I just have a bad feeling about this.

Give it time.

851 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:14:24pm

re: #847 gmsc Damn, old David Lee Roth.
You brought a smile to my face.
G-nite Waldo. :)

852 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:15:20pm

re: #851 DEZes

Damn, old David Lee Roth.
You brought a smile to my face.
G-nite Waldo. :)

Nobody was supposed to know whatever happened to Waldo!
;)

853 DEZes  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:17:10pm

re: #849 Afrocity

aw, my cats names are Moonraker and Solitaire.

Mine cats are named Solaris and Luna, I love em both!

854 capitalist piglet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:17:32pm

Afrocity:

At the risk of being tagged as a kook, I really want to tell you this story (as briefly as possible).

My mother was a singer (professional); she sounded good her entire life, and when she was in her seventies, she recorded the song "White Christmas" as a little family heirloom.

She died a couple of days before Christmas Eve, alone in the house I grew up in. I was in a terrible state of grief, and on Christmas Eve (the night we always celebrated Christmas in my family), I sat up until 4:00AM. I had remembered the CD of that song she made, and I was listening to it, going over the lyrics in my head...then it dawned on me - she was "home" for Christmas, and that made me feel better.

I prayed though...I asked God to give me a sign, for sure, that she was in heaven; I thought it would be really awesome if He could make it snow on Christmas morning, because of the lyrics "please have snow". After I asked God for that, I thought (what everyone reading this is probably thinking - LOL), "You are being ridiculous. That is never going to happen."

(I live in Seattle. We aren't known for white Christmases.)

I got up to go to bed, and turned on the radio for my dog...it was tuned to a talk station, but they were playing music. The song that was playing was "White Christmas". I was satisfied with that.

Christmas day, I didn't wake up until noon. When I got up, I checked my cell phone and there was a text from my best friend. He lives about five miles north of me. The text said only this: "It's snowing!" (He knew nothing of my prayer...and this text was intended for his daughter, not for me, by the way - he made a mistake.)

I ran to the window, no snow. Still, I put my boots on and went outside. By the time I got out there, the biggest snowflakes I had ever seen were falling all around me. I stood in it, just marveling - as I'm sure everyone else in Seattle was too, but for a different reason.

I swear on my life this is true. That's why I believe you had a sign, too.

855 capitalist piglet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:19:30pm

re: #845 Afrocity

I am going to bed.
You know I am truly disappoint in 52% of Americans voting for this man that I find absolutely frightening. We know little about him, his speeches are written by frat boy date rapists, he scoffs at American values, treats our friends rudely and our enemies with kid gloves. I just have a bad feeling about this.


Oh no...you'll miss my story. Good night, Afrocity.

Sorry I made the rest you guys read that or scroll a mile through it. I promise, I am not a nut.

856 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:25:55pm

re: #854 capitalist piglet

I loved your story. Thinking about my mom now, as well.

857 capitalist piglet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:37:03pm

re: #856 Pvt Bin Jammin

I loved your story. Thinking about my mom now, as well.

Thank you, and bless you for saying that...I was reluctant to share it and I felt kind of stupid afterwards, but you made me feel a lot better.

Good night.

858 yesandno  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 6:08:31am

re: #745 Afrocity

He wrote the now famous "race speech" too.
No comment.

And notice the only President with a younger speech writer was the eloquent and witty Jimmy Carter! Remember all those famous lines?

859 yesandno  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 6:11:40am

re: #793 Occasional Reader

He'll be giving her a DVD of He's Just Not That Into You.

Will be interesting if he can out haughty her...he tends to do such things.

860 grahamski  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 1:00:50pm

re: #185 Iron Fist

$450s not a bad price. Not a great price either. Of course, that depends on what you are comparing it to. Springfield Armory used to be moderate priced (and moderate quality) .45s, and these days they are up there with Colt and Kimber.

It is going to be interesting to see what happens to demand over the next year or so. If Obama spends most of his time working on outreach to the "moderate" Taliban (I'm sorry, but that freaks me the hell out. I'm ot saying what I think of it, but WTF) and I guess, the more mainstream al Qaeda people (Dick Durban, for instance) instead of gun control, then surely demand will drop off. I know that before the '94 ban you had a lot of people that had never owned a gun before buying AK-47s simply because Clinton was trying to tell them what they could and could not have.

OTOH, if Obama and the Democrats come out swinging demand will get even higher than it currently is.

SA is good, but I would not place them in the same category as Kimber.

861 Clubsec  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 7:11:53pm

Now THAT's how to break in a new set of strings!

My left hand aches just watching the fret work ...
I suppose I should pull the Strat out of the closet and get some exercise.

862 Cymbaline  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 8:10:45pm

re: #14 grahamski

How about Paul Gilbert and Andy Timmons together?

863 otcconan  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 9:29:39pm

Dude plays for Olivia Newton-John now.


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