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1 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:32:26pm

I second that!

2 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:34:19pm

99% of books are harmless. It's usually the morons interpreting the damn things that cause the problems.

3 Racer X  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:34:50pm

I've had the book thrown at me. It hurts.

4 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:34:57pm

If you'd like to contribute or otherwise assist in the making of the LGF Cookbook Volume 2 then be sure to click Reine's nic.


The preceding was a Lizard Service Announcement from the LGF Cookbook Volume 2 Brute Squad*

5 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:35:34pm

April is the cruelest month. Isn't that also T.S. Eliot?

6 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:35:40pm

count cadence

delayed cadence

count cadence count

one!

7 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:35:47pm

Don't be dropping the Oxford English Dictionary on your toe. It'd make you really smart.

8 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:36:05pm

re: #2 BlueCanuck

Don't forget those children's books they're planning to get rid of because of lead in the in or some such. Damn shame.

9 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:36:11pm

re: #2 BlueCanuck

99% of books are harmless. It's usually the morons interpreting the damn things that cause the problems.

I am subconsciously offended by your remark. /

10 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:37:11pm

re: #5 BatGuano

April is the cruelest month. Isn't that also T.S. Eliot?

Yep. Breeding lilacs out of the dead land/Mixing memory and desire...

11 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:38:15pm

This Yvonne Ridley woman is a nutcase.

12 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:38:44pm

re: #8 Pvt Bin Jammin

Don't forget those children's books they're planning to get rid of because of lead in the in or some such. Damn shame.

simply the fact that they haven't been certified lead and (something else) free..... no proof three's a threat, but at least we protected the chilrens!

13 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:39:20pm

re: #11 SanFranciscoZionist

This Yvonne Ridley woman is a nutcase.

i've know nutcases in my time, and you are insulting them...

14 Erik The Red  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:39:55pm

One summer evening during a violent thunderstorm a mother
was tucking her small boy into bed. She was about to turn off
the light when he asked with a tremor in his voice, "Mommy,
will you sleep with me tonight?" The mother smiled and gave
him a reassuring hug. "I can't dear," she said. "I have to sleep
in Daddy's room."

A long silence was broken at last by a shaken little voice
saying, "The big sissy."

15 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:41:17pm

re: #12 redc1c4

simply the fact that they haven't been certified lead and (something else) free..... no proof three's a threat, but at least we protected the chilrens!

It's just a bunch of sh*t. I read those old books over & over, didn't hurt me.

16 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:41:18pm

re: #13 redc1c4

i've know nutcases in my time, and you are insulting them...

You're right. Oh nutcases of the world, if you are on this thread, I apologize for my insulting reference to you, and ask your forgiveness...

17 wiffersnapper  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:41:42pm

This quote works well with the communist manifesto and any and all socialist books

18 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:41:51pm

hey LNDT friends: not to try and drum up traffic for my "pathetic blog", but i posted the final version of last night's two part post with no paragraphs there.

you can click my name or if there's actual interest, i can dump it here.

19 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:42:13pm

re: #15 Pvt Bin Jammin

It's just a bunch of sh*t. I read those old books over & over, didn't hurt me.

you sure about that?

/white smoke

20 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:43:59pm

re: #19 redc1c4

LOL Maybe I am one of those nutcases, after all. Apology accepted SFZionist. :-).

21 SixDegrees  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:44:29pm

I see Ted Kennedy received a Profile in Courage award for his 77th birthday - no word on whether it was for drowning an innocent girl, the subsequent coverup, or just a lifetime of liver abuse.

Remarkably, President Obama was able to clear his schedule, rub the sleep out of his eyes and attend. No word on whether he presented Ted with the special edition of "The Wizard of Oz," with the uncut version of the scarecrow's song.

22 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:44:36pm

re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist

Yep. Breeding lilacs out of the dead land/Mixing memory and desire...


I remember it was the Wasteland?

23 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:45:47pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

Brute squad?

24 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:46:11pm

re: #22 BatGuano

I remember it was the Wasteland?

"The Waste Land". Yes. God, haven't thought about that in years.

25 Gus  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:46:57pm

If you look here you can see Ridley with a Palestinian passport:

[Link: www.respectrenewal.org...]

The site is effectively a communist organization. Oddly enough it contains criticism of Labour and Brown and also includes an article about the Communications Workers Union (CWU) in the UK.

I'm starting to think this might be a reason behind our own socialist president's snub of Brown.

26 pat  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:47:53pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

I can do that if I am on when she is.

27 pat  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:48:50pm

re: #21 SixDegrees

Or get sober.

28 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:48:56pm

re: #19 redc1c4

Checked out your blog. Loved that closing line. LOL

When is Charles going to give us the little "mood meters" like you have? LOL

29 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:51:05pm

re: #23 Slumbering Behemoth

Brute squad?

Indeed. Except I'm female, and tiny. Oh- and I don't have a french accent.

30 pat  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:52:10pm

re: #29 Sharmuta

Indeed. Except I'm female, and tiny. Oh- and I don't have a french accent.

But cute.

31 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:52:46pm

re: #26 pat

I can do that if I am on when she is.

Not true!

You can click her nic anytime you see it/find it, whether she's logged in or not. Her nic is the Cookbook blog, and you can find information on how to submit items for the cookbook or offer assistance in producing the cookbook there.

32 pat  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:53:29pm

re: #31 Sharmuta

Will try

33 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:54:17pm

re: #18 redc1c4

Say, I wasn't aware that you had a "pathetic blog". I should get me one of those, but who would check out a blog full of links to metal?

Anyway, I took that Obama test you have linked there, and scored a 23. I am so ashamed, what am I doing wrong?

/not clingy enough?

34 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:54:21pm

re: #32 pat

Will try

There is no try.

35 blackpajamas  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:56:32pm

One ping Vasily, one ping only.

36 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:56:44pm

Reine posted comment #8 on the thread downstairs.

37 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:56:50pm

re: #18 redc1c4

Perfect. I will be spreading that around to a few of my friends. Maybe they will understand a bit more about who and what I am. Had to explain to someone the other day why it was bad ettiquete to ask a soldier if they have ever killed anyone.

38 NY Nana  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:57:34pm

re: #15 Pvt Bin Jammin

Oooooh, you said 'shit!' ;)
Now wash your mouth out with soap, please, as I am too wasted to do it myself.

And to answer emails. *cough**cough*

Score: Computer 112; NY Nana and NY Grampa? Our energy, patience and first-born son, who just would not cooperate. Score=2. The youngest, who knows stuff, entered a witness protection program!

NY Grampa is a mensch...he did 99.9%of the work on my computer, and it seems to be restored after being wiped, etc. Nerve wracking experience, and he will do his later today.

/OK, which lizard did this to our computers? I want names, I tells ya!

So help me, my computer is smirking at me...I am closing down to keep it out of trouble.

Computers: Can't live without them, can't leave them with them!

I should have stuck with my Slinky.

G'nite, all! Sweet dreams!

39 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:57:36pm

re: #30 pat

But cute.

That's only a rumor.

40 Erik The Red  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:57:59pm

A husband wrote the following letter for his wife and left it on the dining
room table:

'To My Dear Wife,
You will surely understand that I have certain needs that you, being 54
years old, can no longer satisfy. I am very happy with you, and I value you
as a good wife. Therefore, after reading this letter I hope you will not
wrongly interpret the fact that I will be spending the evening with my
18-year-old secretary at the Comfort Inn Hotel. Please don't be upset - I
shall be back home before midnight.'

When the man came home late that night he found the following letter on the dining room table:

WIFE`S LETTER

'To My Dear Husband,

I received your letter and thank you for your honesty about my being 54
years old. I would like to take this opportunity to remind you that you are
also 54 years old. As you know, I am a math teacher at our local college. I
would like to inform you that while you're at the Comfort Inn, I will be at
the Hotel Fiesta with Michael, one of my students, who is also the assistant
tennis coach. He is young, virile, and like your secretary, he is 18 years
old.
As a successful businessman with an excellent knowledge of math, you will
understand that we are in the same situation, although with one small
difference; 18 goes into 54 a lot more times than 54 goes into 18.

Therefore I will not be home until sometime tomorrow.'

41 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:58:32pm

re: #29 Sharmuta

Could you fake the accent? That'd be one swell brute squad.

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:58:37pm

re: #37 BlueCanuck

Perfect. I will be spreading that around to a few of my friends. Maybe they will understand a bit more about who and what I am. Had to explain to someone the other day why it was bad ettiquete to ask a soldier if they have ever killed anyone.

Dear God. What a thing to ask a person.

43 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:59:41pm

re: #38 NY Nana

You're leaving us!?

Sounds like you've had a rough couple of days. Glad to hear you got things up and running.

Sweet dreams.

44 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:00:01am

This Day in History, March 9th:

45 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:00:42am

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Dear God. What a thing to ask a person.

I cannot even imagine.

46 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:01:59am

re: #34 Sharmuta

There is no try.

And there it is. I didn't get the hint about you being tiny, but there it is. Who knew Yoda was a female?

47 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:02:32am

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Well from the person involved it was an honest question. That was why they weren't beaten down brutally. If it had come from some one else I would have replied "Not since yesterday. Are you applying?"

48 Rich H  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:02:47am

To be or not to be offended by something is a personal choice. Therefore nothing can be regarded as objectively being offensive.

49 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:03:12am

re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth

Could you fake the accent? That'd be one swell brute squad.

Eet iz like ze second nature, Dahling.

50 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:03:40am

Sherlock Holmes and Watson were out camping. Holmes awakens Watson and says," Watson, what do you see?"
Watson replies, "I see stars, Sir".
"And what can you deduce from that", asks Sherlock.
Watson says, "Well, the stars might be suns like our own".
Sherlock, "and..?
Mr. Watson says, " If they are suns like our own, perhaps they have planets like Earth orbiting them."
"And what else, Mr Watson?"
Mr. Watson says, "If there are planets like our own, perhaps there is life on them just like Earth."
Holmes asks, " And what can you infer from that?"
Mr. Watson replies," Perhaps there is intelligent life on those planets."
Holmes asks, " anything else?"
Mr. Watson, "No".
Sherlock Holmes says, " You Idiot! someone has stolen our tent!"

51 blackpajamas  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:03:56am

Norks with Nukes!

"We will retaliate (over) any act of intercepting our satellite for peaceful purposes with prompt counterstrikes by the most powerful military means,"

If countries such as the United States, Japan or South Korea try to intercept the launch, the North Korean military will carry out "a just retaliatory strike operation not only against all the interceptor means involved but against the strongholds" of the countries, it said.

What exactly is one of our American strongholds?

Oakland's "Your Black Muslim Bakery"? They'll give us a hand with that?

52 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:04:12am

re: #46 Slumbering Behemoth

And there it is. I didn't get the hint about you being tiny, but there it is. Who knew Yoda was a female?

You are bad at picking up hints from girls, after all. ;)

53 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:06:17am

re: #47 BlueCanuck

Well from the person involved it was an honest question. That was why they weren't beaten down brutally. If it had come from some one else I would have replied "Not since yesterday. Are you applying?"

An educator at heart!

54 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:07:55am

re: #53 SanFranciscoZionist

I try to teach those that are willing to listen. I unfortunately have a short fuse when dealing with stupidity though.

55 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:08:25am

re: #23 Slumbering Behemoth

Brute squad?

i went looking for Elvis Costello's "goon squad" but couldn't find it....

not bad for second place....

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:09:08am

re: #51 blackpajamas

What exactly is one of our American strongholds?

Oakland's "Your Black Muslim Bakery"? They'll give us a hand with that?

They're closed. Problem not entirely solved, but I think nukes might be a slightly extreme solution. I don't wanna glow in the dark!

57 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:09:52am

re: #46 Slumbering Behemoth

And there it is. I didn't get the hint about you being tiny, but there it is. Who knew Yoda was a female?

Great - now I'm trying imagine Yoda without makeup!

58 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:11:29am

re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth

Say, I wasn't aware that you had a "pathetic blog". I should get me one of those, but who would check out a blog full of links to metal?

Anyway, I took that Obama test you have linked there, and scored a 23. I am so ashamed, what am I doing wrong?

/not clingy enough?

once you take the test, copy the html over to your blog, and you can change the numercial score to "0"..... it seems the test was set up to not ley anyone get too low, apparently so we would all be at least somewhat Ear Leader compliant.

59 blackpajamas  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:12:03am

Norkular Nooth Koreans!

O KIM JONG! my KIM JONG! your tearful trip is done;
Your state's sanity has weather’d every rack, the prize you sought is won;
Asylum's port is near, the claxon bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady contrail, the vessel grim and daring:
But O deep kimchi! kimchi! kimchi, you are in!
O the bleeding drops of MIRV,
Where in your bunker our MOAB lands,
Embracing your war'med bed.

60 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:12:27am

re: #52 Sharmuta

So true, so true.

:sigh:

61 blackpajamas  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:14:40am

re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist

They're closed. Problem not entirely solved, but I think nukes might be a slightly extreme solution. I don't wanna glow in the dark!

You've got a point there. Oakland is a bit close to SF. I recall during the Oakland hills fires (back in the 90's), being at a 49'er game, having the ash fall all over the stadium in San Francisco's candle stick park.

62 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:15:04am

re: #37 BlueCanuck Even worse is when they ask for a count and get offended when you refuse to answer.

63 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:15:46am

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Dear God. What a thing to ask a person.

i had some moron ask me that just the other day, when my service came up.

i just told them "not yet, as far as i know, but i'm ready and willing if it's necessary."

they blanched and excused themselves.

64 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:15:50am

re: #46 Slumbering Behemoth

And there it is. I didn't get the hint about you being tiny, but there it is. Who knew Yoda was a female?

"I met him in a swamp down in Dagobah,
where it bubbles all the time like a giant carbonated soda..."

65 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:16:15am

re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth

It's okay. I'll let you in on a little secret.... Women don't get men either.

66 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:18:06am

re: #47 BlueCanuck

Well from the person involved it was an honest question. That was why they weren't beaten down brutally. If it had come from some one else I would have replied "Not since yesterday. Are you applying?"

"Otis, My Man!".......

last person who asked me was a precocious child of 12ish.

/adults should know better

67 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:19:10am

re: #63 redc1c4

i had some moron ask me that just the other day, when my service came up.

i just told them "not yet, as far as i know, but i'm ready and willing if it's necessary."

they blanched and excused themselves.

Well, hell, in that case what would they have done if you had said 'seventeen', and given them details? What answer do they hope to get?

I wonder if they're asking for reassurance, or what? Or does the mouth just move without checkage from the brain?

68 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:19:25am

re: #65 Sharmuta

It's okay. I'll let you in on a little secret.... Women don't get men either.

But women know how to manipulate men better than men know how to manipulate women.

69 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:20:24am

re: #48 Rich H

To be or not to be offended by something is a personal choice. Therefore nothing can be regarded as objectively being offensive.

bullshit.

racism, sexism, antisemitism and islamic militancy come to mind immediately.

maybe it's just me, but i find all 4 offensive

70 blackpajamas  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:21:37am

What do you call a man whose ancestors manipulated women?

A vestigial manipulator.

71 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:22:14am

re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, hell, in that case what would they have done if you had said 'seventeen', and given them details? What answer do they hope to get?

I wonder if they're asking for reassurance, or what? Or does the mouth just move without checkage from the brain?

I am old enough to know many world war 2, Korean war and Vietnam vets. I have never asked that question. I allow them to talk about what they want to talk about.

72 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:22:45am

re: #68 BatGuano

But women know how to manipulate men better than men know how to manipulate women.

Women are masters of the Jedi Mind Trick.

73 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:22:47am

re: #54 BlueCanuck

I try to teach those that are willing to listen. I unfortunately have a short fuse when dealing with stupidity though.

at least you have a fuse......

/i just go off. %-)

74 blackpajamas  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:23:52am

Why is a manipulator always a manipulator? What ever happened to the womanipulators?

75 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:24:20am

re: #62 Rustler

Even worse is when they ask for a count and get offended when you refuse to answer.

ask'em how many names are in the average phone book....

76 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:24:35am

re: #73 redc1c4

at least you have a fuse......

/i just go off. %-)

I used to have a long fuse. Then I became a supervisor and had to deal with lots of guards. The stupid runs strong in this field.

77 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:25:02am

re: #74 blackpajamas

Why is a manipulator always a manipulator? What ever happened to the womanipulators?

duh: sexual harassment lawsuits.

78 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:25:09am

re: #74 blackpajamas

Why is a manipulator always a manipulator? What ever happened to the womanipulators?

They hang out with the manizers.

79 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:25:12am

re: #72 Sharmuta

Women are masters of the Jedi Mind Trick.

Women are masters of a lot of things. Men are always playing catchup. :)

80 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:25:44am

re: #64 gmsc

I recall seeing a Curt Cobain interview where they referenced this, and when Al called up Curt to ask if he could do that parody. Curt was stoked about Weird Al doing a parody, and asked him if it would be about food.

Can't find that clip, but here's this one.

81 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:25:48am

re: #76 BlueCanuck

I used to have a long fuse. Then I became a supervisor and had to deal with lots of guards. The stupid runs strong wild in this field.

FTFY!

82 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:27:47am

re: #76 BlueCanuck

I used to have a long fuse. Then I became a supervisor and had to deal with lots of guards. The stupid runs strong in this field.

As a former Operation Manager for several Security Companies, I can tell you "Dumb Guard" stories that would make your hair stand up...:)

83 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:30:44am

re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, hell, in that case what would they have done if you had said 'seventeen', and given them details? What answer do they hope to get?

I wonder if they're asking for reassurance, or what? Or does the mouth just move without checkage from the brain?

your last guess is the most likely. the kid i spoke of spends lots of time doing on line war games, so i could kind of see that. the adult candy ass was just being a prick, so i went 11B on him.

84 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:31:52am

I'm outta here.

Buenas noches, lagartitos.

85 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:32:23am

I ♥ Nirvana.

86 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:32:35am

re: #79 BatGuano

Women are masters of a lot of things. Men are always playing catchup masturbaters. :)

FTFY!

/white smoke

87 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:32:43am

re: #82 Dustyvet

Like wise. I have learned which ones can be taught, and which ones can't. Unfortunately the smart ones here tend to bolt after about 3 months. You can always tell the smart ones. They only have to be told once.

88 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:32:58am

re: #85 Sharmuta

I ♥ Nirvana.

Me too.

89 blackpajamas  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:33:02am

re: #77 redc1c4

duh: sexual harassment lawsuits.

Ah, but even the term "sexual" harassment is non-inclusive, diminutive, and insulting, to the asexual, like Michael Moore, who's eschewed copulation to spend more time stimulating his gullet.

90 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:33:06am

re: #69 redc1c4

I dig where you're coming from, but I still agree with Rich. Being offended is a choice, and I choose to be offended by the same crap you listed. I can't see not being offended by it, but there are numerous asshats around the world who choose not to be. Fork 'em.

91 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:33:20am

Naughty!

92 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:33:27am

re: #82 Dustyvet

As a former Operation Manager for several Security Companies, I can tell you "Dumb Guard" stories that would make your hair stand up...:)

not much different from "dumb GI " stories, if i had to guess, right?

93 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:33:29am

re: #87 BlueCanuck

Like wise. I have learned which ones can be taught, and which ones can't. Unfortunately the smart ones here tend to bolt after about 3 months. You can always tell the smart ones. They only have to be told once.

Are you a member of ASIS?

94 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:33:54am

re: #85 Sharmuta

I ♥ Nirvana.

will you let us know when you find it?

95 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:34:36am

re: #83 redc1c4

your last guess is the most likely. the kid i spoke of spends lots of time doing on line war games, so i could kind of see that. the adult candy ass was just being a prick, so i went 11B on him.

IIRC, I think I asked my dad, when I was about five or six, if a family friend who had been in Vietnam had killed people there. My dad told me that you don't ask people questions about things like that, because it's private, and you might hurt their feelings.

I got the picture.

Anyway, really going to bed. Try not to bite anyone.

96 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:34:43am

re: #92 redc1c4

not much different from "dumb GI " stories, if i had to guess, right?

Something like that, but "contract guards" are in a league of their own.

97 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:35:40am

re: #68 BatGuano

But women know how to manipulate men better than men know how to manipulate women.

Are you sure?

/my apologies to the Lizardettes for that link

98 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:35:40am

re: #89 blackpajamas

Ah, but even the term "sexual" harassment is non-inclusive, diminutive, and insulting, to the asexual, like Michael Moore, who's eschewed copulation to spend more time stimulating his gullet.

no, he's simply differently sexualized, and you're a bigot for not realizing that.

/now smile for the camera!

99 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:36:10am

re: #94 redc1c4

will you let us know when you find it?

No. :p

100 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:36:14am

re: #93 Dustyvet

ASIS? What's that? I work for a private security company. Won't mention the name here, don't want to get in trouble.

101 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:36:28am

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

IIRC, I think I asked my dad, when I was about five or six, if a family friend who had been in Vietnam had killed people there. My dad told me that you don't ask people questions about things like that, because it's private, and you might hurt their feelings.

I got the picture.

Anyway, really going to bed. Try not to bite anyone.

me? never...... %-)

weet dreams!

102 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:37:35am

re: #99 Sharmuta

No. :p

we'll have one of Blue's crack (head) guards follow you back to it then.

103 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:37:42am

re: #97 Slumbering Behemoth

For shame.

104 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:38:59am

re: #100 BlueCanuck

ASIS? What's that? I work for a private security company. Won't mention the name here, don't want to get in trouble.

[Link: www.asisonline.org...]

105 blackpajamas  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:40:21am

pajama-gram for Mongo! * incoming *

106 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:43:30am

re: #103 Sharmuta

Yeah, pretty much a step by step guide on how to be a dick in an argument. I prefer to stick to the topic, and focus on the details.

Still, I thought that was funny.

107 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:43:39am

re: #105 blackpajamas

pajama-gram for Mongo! * incoming *

Don't shoot Mongo. It only makes him mad.

108 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:46:26am

re: #107 BatGuano

Don't shoot Mongo. It only makes him mad.

Trivia time: Who played Mongo in Blazing Saddles?

109 Rich H  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:46:29am

re: #69 redc1c4

bullshit.

racism, sexism, antisemitism and islamic militancy come to mind immediately.

maybe it's just me, but i find all 4 offensive

Yet it is your choice to feel so, is it not?

What separates humans from lower life forms is our ability to choose.

110 blackpajamas  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:46:59am

_____ Obozo My Bozo! _____

our fearful economy is done!


Recall: The DNC Keynote 2004

"I stand here knowing that my story is part of the larger American story, that I owe a debt to all of those who came before me,"

Except for shareholders, capitalists, taxpayers, the military, etc.

(And those dumb stooge taxpayers who who helped pay the mortgage insurance for you parent's FHA home loan).

Without your magnificence who knows what would happen! There might even be some evil-blob like governmental entity run amok, making taxpayers pay for FHA loans to people who fail to make the first payment!

"Tonight, we gather to affirm the greatness of our nation, not because of the height of our skyscrapers, or the power of our military, or the size of our economy."

Indeed, why pay any attention to the little things, like industry, military protection, and the economy?

"Our pride is based on a very simple premise, summed up in a declaration made over two hundred years ago,"

We know you get a tingle for declarations, even without your training-wheel tele-prompter.

In America however, actions speak loader than words.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

If you really believe so, why don't you tax them equally?

Put up, or shut up -- as the real world declaration goes.

"That they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights."

The right to pay for your neighbor's mortgage -- all of you neighbors, not just one!

"That among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

Which are to be funded by: The politically un-connected middle & upper class -- comprised of taxpayers too stupid to be able to buy a "Swiss Financial Insurance Policy", such as from, but not strictly limited to, UBS.


"That is the true genius of America, a faith in a simple dream, an insistence on small miracles. That we can tuck in our children at night and know they are fed and clothed and safe from harm."

Fed, clothed, and made safe by what and whom?

Is Barney Frank your cuddly "small miracle"? The Fannie Mae-flower of your tired huddled illegal alien masses -- pining for the supple shores and fertile fields of the virgin taxpayer wallets?

(end part 1)

111 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:47:43am

re: #108 gmsc

Trivia time: Who played Mongo in Blazing Saddles?

Alex Carras (SP)

112 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:49:13am

re: #111 BatGuano

Alex Carras (SP)

Yep!

Quite a different role than he had in Webster, wouldn't you say?

113 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:49:44am

re: #109 Rich H

Yet it is your choice to feel so, is it not?

What separates humans from lower life forms is our ability to choose.

so how would you suggest i choose to approach such subjects emotionally?

114 blackpajamas  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:51:04am

(part 2)

"Now let me be clear. We have real enemies in the world. These enemies must be found. They must be pursued and they must be defeated"

Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, The American taxpayer-citizen.

"That we can say what we think, write what we think, without hearing a sudden knock on the door."

You are right! The Fairness Doctrine doesn't knock, it oozes through the door while the door is still closed.

"That we can have an idea and start our own business without paying a bribe or hiring somebody’s son."

Union Labor. Card Check. The Chicago Political machine. Blago. Burris.

Never heard of them, right?

"Go into the collar counties around Chicago, and people will tell you they don’t want their tax money wasted by a welfare agency or the Pentagon."

If you want to abolish welfare, we won't stop you!

However, if you mean the middle class doesn't want the middle class to have its money wasted on welfare, that's OK too, the upper class will pay for it indefinitely, right? (It's not like they'll put the money in Swiss bank accounts or anything).

"Go into any inner city neighborhood, and folks will tell you that government alone can’t teach kids to learn."

So your simulus plan calls for the upgrade of school facilities instead, because of (a) random chance, (b) the vast right wing conspiracy, or (c) the Turbo-Tax Gnomes of Zurich?

"They know that parents have to parent, that children can’t achieve unless' we raise their expectations and turn off the television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth with a book is acting white."

Oh, how prominently this must have been mentioned in your stimulus bill!

Certainly you can show us in your stimulus bill where this is mentioned, so we don't accidentally interpret your god-words to mean that we only need to dump more money on school facilities and administrative upgrades.

"Out of many, one. Yet even as we speak, there are those who are preparing to divide us, the spin masters and negative ad peddlers who embrace the politics of anything goes."

Certainly, that would never include heads of state that single out their own citizens for one on one attack?

"There’s not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there’s the United States of America. The pundits like to slice-and-dice our country into Red States and Blue States"

How is Ol' Ram-U-Manual doing sending people personalized kiss-my fish-o-grams from the Oval office?

Perhaps he's too busy writing the acceptance speech for the "most positive ad-peddler" of the year, right?

"In the end, that’s what this election is about. Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or a politics of hope?"

We only know one idiot who proposes and plans to give nearly a billions dollars of American taxpayer money (material aid and comfort) to a known terrorist organization in the Middle East.

"The audacity of hope! In the end, that is God’s greatest gift to us"

What do you know of God?

(the end)

115 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:52:27am

re: #113 redc1c4

so how would you suggest i choose to approach such subjects emotionally?

Oh yeah, Alex was a monster for the Lions but was a real funny guy. Webster showed the nice guy side.

116 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:52:41am

Red C and Blue. You got me thinking all about the military stories I heard in my childhood. I grew up next door to Lt. Col. Olin L Beall, an old retired Marine who served in Haiti, WWI, WWII and Korea. We never asked a lot of questions, just listened to his war stories he would tell when he took all of us neighborhood kids camping. I was enthralled. He died in his seventies. About five years ago I was priviledged, along with his two kids to go to a reunion of the Baker Company, First Motor Transport from the Korean War. They told us things that I will never forget, in fact, their wives told us they had never talked about the war as much as they did that night. They are sometimes called the "Ice Marines" from the frozen Chosin

I am honored to know them.

[Link: www.americanheritage.com...]

Nite, lizards. I am finally tired and kind of nostalgic.

117 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:53:38am

The Audacity of Hope The Paucity of Content

Ear Leader is the original Empty Suit.

118 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:54:50am

re: #116 Pvt Bin Jammin

Red C and Blue. You got me thinking all about the military stories I heard in my childhood. I grew up next door to Lt. Col. Olin L Beall, an old retired Marine who served in Haiti, WWI, WWII and Korea. We never asked a lot of questions, just listened to his war stories he would tell when he took all of us neighborhood kids camping. I was enthralled. He died in his seventies. About five years ago I was priviledged, along with his two kids to go to a reunion of the Baker Company, First Motor Transport from the Korean War. They told us things that I will never forget, in fact, their wives told us they had never talked about the war as much as they did that night. They are sometimes called the "Ice Marines" from the frozen Chosin

I am honored to know them.

[Link: www.americanheritage.com...]

Nite, lizards. I am finally tired and kind of nostalgic.

you were with the "Old Breed", and luck to have met him.

119 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:56:12am

re: #116 Pvt Bin Jammin

Night PBJ.

120 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:59:30am

re: #118 redc1c4
He was like my second Dad. It was sure great to meet the guys he served with, too. I got invited to two of their reunions down in San Diego. Hope I get to go again. They are so awesome.

One of the guys wrote an article about in, of all things, "Soldier of Fortune". I think the title was something like "The man who walked on water".

I am out.

121 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:00:42am

re: #115 BatGuano

Oh yeah, Alex was a monster for the Lions but was a real funny guy. Webster showed the nice guy side.

I just noticed I responded to the wrong post. I meant to respond to GMSC.

122 Rich H  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:00:42am

re: #113 redc1c4

I would suggest that you choose to feel however you want to feel. My only admonishment is that you take responsibility for your reaction, and not to place blame on others for how you feel about it.

123 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:01:31am

re: #117 redc1c4

The Paucity of Content

I so love that.

124 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:02:54am

It is time for the Bat to hang from the ceiling. G'night all.

125 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:09:00am

*sniff, sniff*

/what kind of 29 commenter we got here?

126 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:09:56am

Night Bat. Rest well.

127 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:11:24am

re: #122 Rich H

I would suggest that you choose to feel however you want to feel. My only admonishment is that you take responsibility for your reaction, and not to place blame on others for how you feel about it.

whereas i would suggest you go fuck yourself, and your moral ambiguity while you're at it.

/green smoke out.

128 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:11:41am

One more detail about my story and then I'm in bed for sure. He always told us kids that the reason he was able to cross the Chosin Reservoir with the Chinese regulars all around is because he had been around when the Chinese had that Bataan Death March and he helped to save them and spoke a little of the lingo.
nite

129 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:12:36am

re: #125 Killian Bundy

*sniff, sniff*

/what kind of 29 commenter we got here?

likely the short lived kind..... i'll get the grill going.

/got any beer?

130 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:15:26am

re: #129 redc1c4

likely the short lived kind..... i'll get the grill going.

/got any beer?

Drank all of mine yesterday. I will run to the store..................

131 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:15:51am

re: #129 redc1c4

likely the short lived kind..... i'll get the grill going.

/got any beer?

/just JD

132 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:16:17am

I'd rather have fruitcup.

133 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:17:31am

Anybody still up around here? No fun Obama bashing fest for me to pile onto?

134 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:17:33am

re: #132 axegrinder

I'd rather have fruitcup.

43 minutes and counting...

135 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:17:35am

Obama's Political Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome

In the field of Psychiatry, Munchausen by Proxy is a disease of a child's custodian, usually a mother, who induces sickness, real or imagined in her child (sometimes resulting in death) in order to gain sympathy and to portray herself as the heroine. The child accepts his/her abuse as "normal" in exchange for a perception of safety provided by the caretaker. The adolescent child has no other choice.

/spot on analogy

136 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:18:09am

re: #131 Killian Bundy

/just JD

good enough for me.......

/passes over the water glass

137 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:19:12am

re: #133 axegrinder

Anybody still up around here? No fun Obama bashing fest for me to pile onto?

which subject would you like to focus on, seeing as how he's fucked up so many?

138 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:19:46am

re: #130 Erik The Red

Drank all of mine yesterday. I will run to the store..................

drive over there: you can bring more back. %-)

139 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:19:50am

re: #122 Rich H

I would suggest that you choose to feel however you want to feel. My only admonishment is that you take responsibility for your reaction, and not to place blame on others for how you feel about it.

The problem with that is are some things (along the lines that red already posted) that are worthy of getting offended over. Maybe bigots should take responsibility for their bullshit. I'll gladly take responsibility for holding ideals that finds expressed bigotry offensive.

140 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:20:23am

"He is interested in two things and two things only: making you afraid of it and telling you who’s to blame for it. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections."
-The American President

141 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:20:42am

thing is, the MSM will praise him no matter what happens. He can't lose. No matter how bad it ends up being, he'll be lauded as heroic for keeping it from being even worse. Count on it.

142 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:20:50am

speaking of The Incompetent One, how far do you think the market will fall today, or will we see an addition to Friday's spectacular 35 point rally?

143 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:23:05am

re: #142 redc1c4

I'm anticipating a 200 pt slump today early, maybe some optimists will pull a rally in the mid morning to late afternoon and it won't be too bad a loss. I think the Hedge Funders are dumping any chance they get.

144 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:23:16am

If you use Wordpress never, I repeat never, restore from autosave.

/[expletive deleted] thing added a "/" next to every apostrophe or quote mark and converted all the links to text

145 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:25:36am

re: #142 redc1c4

re: #143 axegrinder

Well I checked the Chinese market and it was down. The FTSE is a mixed bag at the moment with some parts down and some up. I don't have a lot of HOPE™ of the market improving in the near short term.

146 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:25:41am

re: #139 Sharmuta

The problem with that is are some things (along the lines that red already posted) that are worthy of getting offended over. Maybe bigots should take responsibility for their bullshit. I'll gladly take responsibility for holding ideals that finds expressed bigotry offensive.

thank you.

if you won't stand for something, why live?

147 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:25:52am

re: #144 Killian Bundy

Noted. Good thing I have no idea what Wordpress is. I blame the hamsters.

148 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:28:21am

re: #145 BlueCanuck

I think we'll be trading sideways for a few years. Just dollar average and if your still doing it 25 years from now I think there's a good chance you'll have a nice little nest egg. Just don't panic and sell when things get really bad. Just keep buying a little every paycheck. That's what I'm doing.

149 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:29:47am

re: #142 redc1c4

speaking of The Incompetent One, how far do you think the market will fall today, or will we see an addition to Friday's spectacular 35 point rally?

Monday: -200 min.
Tuesday: +75
Wednesday: -150
Thursday: +2
Friday: -200

150 Opilio  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:30:02am

re: #148 axegrinder

I think we'll be trading sideways for a few years. Just dollar average and if your still doing it 25 years from now I think there's a good chance you'll have a nice little nest egg. Just don't panic and sell when things get really bad. Just keep buying a little every paycheck. That's what I'm doing.

That's just what I thought 25 years ago. And it was sort of working out that way. Until recently.

151 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:30:48am

re: #148 axegrinder

I think we'll be trading sideways for a few years. Just dollar average and if your still doing it 25 years from now I think there's a good chance you'll have a nice little nest egg. Just don't panic and sell when things get really bad. Just keep buying a little every paycheck. That's what I'm doing.

so am i.....

mostly rifle ammo, but some pistol and the odd box of 12 gauge when i can get a deal.

152 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:32:34am

I have confidence that one man and his handlers won't destroy this country. He can make it harder on us but we'll recover and capitalism will return to prominence soon enough. re: #150 Opilio

Dude, if you were putting 15% of your salary in the market for the last 25 years you did awesome. Even now. I hope you readjusted your trading strategy the older you got.

153 iLikeCandy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:32:44am

Good evening. May I ask a question?

I've been reading this story about how the Won called the NY Times to clarify that he is not socialist. In an interview, he had laughed the question off; then he decided he'd better call back, from the Oval Office, and pointed out that George W. Bush was the one who shoveled money into drug plans and banks. I'm seeing this linked all over the place but I'm not sure what the significance of this story is. Is it just that the question itself is being raised seriously and that he's realized he'd better stomp it out now?

154 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:33:12am

re: #149 Sharmuta

Monday: -200 min.
Tuesday: +75
Wednesday: -150
Thursday: +2
Friday: -200

kinda what i'm thinking: one day of drop, then we bounce off the cliff wall for a day, then gravity takes over again.

energy costs are too low....

155 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:34:09am

re: #151 redc1c4

Yeah, I need to find a well stocked bunker around here. Just in case.

156 Rich H  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:34:32am

re: #139 Sharmuta
"The problem with that is are some things (along the lines that red already posted) that are worthy of getting offended over. Maybe bigots should take responsibility for their bullshit. I'll gladly take responsibility for holding ideals that finds expressed bigotry offensive."

I never suggested otherwise. And I'm not a moral relativist. Quite the opposite. There are many things in the world that I believe merit our disdain, our contempt, our hatred even. But that's a moral choice.

Yet there is no right not to be offended. We live in a world where "offensive" speech is still protected by law, at least in some (diminishing) parts of the world. When someone says something that we find disagreeable, we can choose to tolerate that speech or not to tolerate it. It is our choice.

157 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:35:04am

re: #153 iLikeCandy

Good evening. May I ask a question?

yes, but do you have a cite?

with your stats, it sound's trollish.
iLikeCandy

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158 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:36:27am

re: #156 Rich H

horseshit: now you're splitting hairs.

are you Cognito's sock?

159 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:36:58am

re: #153 iLikeCandy

I wonder sometimes if politicians are really that ignorant or if they just think we are. Of course he's a socialist. Just look at his rhetoric and his history of votes. Hillary is as well. I'm surprised they haven't had Hugo Chavez over for dinner yet.

160 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:38:19am

re: #159 axegrinder

I wonder sometimes if politicians are really that ignorant or if they just think we are. Of course he's a socialist. Just look at his rhetoric and his history of votes. Hillary is as well. I'm surprised they haven't had Hugo Chavez over for dinner yet.

they are still trying to figure out how to roast him.

161 iLikeCandy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:38:38am

The last time someone asked me for a cite, I gave them one and they contemptuously answered that they weren't going to go "link diving," whatever that means. I also have no idea what my "stats" mean. I'm trying to figure out what this story means. It's everywhere at the moment.

162 Rich H  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:39:11am

re: #158 redc1c4

horseshit: now you're splitting hairs.

are you Cognito's sock?

Explain.

163 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:40:34am

re: #156 Rich H

Run along now, yo Mama's cookin' din din.

[Link: www.youtube.com:80...]

/stop back when you've got an avatar and have figured out how to use the quote function

164 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:41:47am

When someone says something that we find disagreeable, we can choose to tolerate that speech or not to tolerate it. It is our choice.

I don't know about that. I think there are some seriously screwed up people that don't have a choice what offends them. It just does. Like homosexuality. I agree it's a choice people make who(or what) they sleep with, but does someone "choose" to be grossed out at the idea of sleeping with someone of the opposite sex? I think sometimes we are influenced by our genetic coding and, more often, by our experiences(environment) on how we feel or react to things. No one has ultimate control over their emotions. Some have more, admittedly and I respect that. But most people just react instinctively. IMO.

165 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:43:14am

re: #162 Rich H

Explain.

you keep moving the goalposts, much like your possible alter ego.

i am unimpressed with what you trot out as logic, and even less than that with what you apparently use for a moral framew*rk.

HTH! HAND..............

166 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:44:21am

re: #161 iLikeCandy

The last time someone asked me for a cite, I gave them one and they contemptuously answered that they weren't going to go "link diving," whatever that means. I also have no idea what my "stats" mean. I'm trying to figure out what this story means. It's everywhere at the moment.

then you won't have a problem linking one for someone who's asked for it.

/unless, of course, it's all just bullshit.

167 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:44:29am

"There are many things in the world that I believe merit our disdain, our contempt, our hatred even. But that's a moral choice."

There are many things in the world that need killing!
Even "Old Yeller" needed to be dispatched when he became rabid.
That's common sense.

"0"s gunna get us killed.

168 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:44:33am

re: #156 Rich H

I never suggested otherwise. And I'm not a moral relativist. Quite the opposite. There are many things in the world that I believe merit our disdain, our contempt, our hatred even. But that's a moral choice.

Yet there is no right not to be offended. We live in a world where "offensive" speech is still protected by law, at least in some (diminishing) parts of the world. When someone says something that we find disagreeable, we can choose to tolerate that speech or not to tolerate it. It is our choice.

I have no problem with bigots opening their mouths and allowing all who would see to know exactly who they are. The same free speech that allows them to do so also allows me the ability to denounce them, their statements and bigotry. There isn't a "right not to be offend"- this is true. There are, however, consequences when a person is offensive- at least in this country. One reaps what they sow.

169 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:45:22am
170 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:45:36am

re: #168 Sharmuta

Right not to be offended- pimf.

171 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:47:55am
172 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:48:03am

re: #169 ploome hineni

ad nauseam was just setting in, pull up a chair.

173 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:48:14am
174 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:48:37am

Christopher Columbus was actually a Scotsman called Pedro Scotto, historian says

Alfonso Ensenat de Villalonga has disputed conventionally-accepted narratives on the explorer's origins - that he was the son of a weaver in Genoa, Italy, or that he was from Catalonia or Galicia in Spain.

In fact, he was from Genoa, but he was "the son of shopkeepers not weavers and he was baptised Pedro not Christopher," Mr Villalonga told Spain's ABC newspaper on Sunday.

And his family name was Scotto, and was not Italian but of Scottish origin.

"He had light-coloured eyes and freckles. He also had blond hair even though it quickly turned white. That's how his contemporaries described him. Nothing like the traditional images (of him), which are totally invented," the historian said.

/and he had Muslim navigators and steam turbine propulsion

175 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:48:43am
176 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:48:49am

re: #169 ploome hineni

has the time for ad hominem come?

is that the ancient hymn?

177 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:49:37am
178 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:50:01am
179 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:50:39am

re: #174 Killian Bundy

Yeah, and he was chief engineer on the Enterprise.

180 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:51:13am

How long before Nirther Boy shows up?

/he didn't get nailed to the dumpster lid yesterday

181 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:51:19am
182 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:51:26am

re: #174 Killian Bundy

MooseCaca!

Everybody knows Christopher Columbus was Jewish!

183 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:52:11am

re: #171 ploome hineni

So- when discussing bigots, what would you prefer I call them?

184 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:52:13am
185 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:52:20am

re: #182 littleoldlady

MooseCaca!

Everybody knows Christopher Columbus was Jewish!

What .. you talking about Chaim Colombus Gershtein?

186 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:52:29am

re: #182 littleoldlady

MooseCaca!

Everybody knows Christopher Columbus was Jewish!

he couldn't have been: his mother never would have let him go off like that.

187 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:53:13am

re: #183 Sharmuta

So- when discussing bigots, what would you prefer I call them?

Persons of overtly overextended racist attitudes.

188 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:54:51am

re: #180 Killian Bundy

How long before Nirther Boy shows up?

/he didn't get nailed to the dumpster lid yesterday

You are joking right? I can't believe he didn't get the stick.

189 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:55:12am
190 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:55:20am

re: #184 ploome hineni

Oy veh.

/blech, feh, pui!

;-)

ploomie! :-)

191 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:55:43am

re: #188 Erik The Red

You are joking right? I can't believe he didn't get the stick.

More importantly .. why did I end up having to defend him? :P

192 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:56:02am

re: #185 Buster Bunny

re: #186 redc1c4

You're both right!

/old rabbi joke

193 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:56:36am
194 Rich H  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:56:41am

re: #168 Sharmuta

I have no problem with bigots opening their mouths and allowing all who would see to know exactly who they are. The same free speech that allows them to do so also allows me the ability to denounce them, their statements and bigotry. There isn't a "right not to be offend"- this is true. There are, however, consequences when a person is offensive- at least in this country. One reaps what they sow.

Exactly.

Yet increasingly, there are countries (e.g., Canada, UK, Denmark) where this principle seems to be in danger of failing.

195 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:56:48am

re: #192 littleoldlady

re: #186 redc1c4

You're both right!

/old rabbi joke

According to Gematria .. we can both be right if the numbers add up.

196 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:57:00am
197 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:57:19am

so, how far off is LoL going to be tonight?

she was off by hours yesterday...... %-)

198 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:58:39am

re: #189 ploome hineni

it is a matterof judgement

calling anyone who describes someone or some group in unflattering terms is not automatically a bigot

Right- and no one was critical of any group of people except red and I who were being critical of bigots of various flavors. But we were doing so with thought, so we're not being bigoted against bigots.

199 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:59:11am

backup fruitcup now available over there--------> somewhere.

/follow the fumes %-)

200 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:59:21am

re: #196 ploome hineni

LoL

are you fasting with Esther today?

I never fast with dead Persian chicks. Not my thing. However .. dressing up to the nines in a gorilla suit .. blowing a trumpet every time someone yells Haman and eating his ears .. well thats totally normal for this time of year.

201 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:59:28am

re: #188 Erik The Red

You are joking right? I can't believe he didn't get the stick.

/took the deletions, lived to tell about it

202 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:00:08am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

203 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:00:32am

re: #202 littleoldlady

Thanks!

204 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:00:35am

re: #202 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Yummy! Thanks!

205 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:00:56am

re: #202 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

{lol} Thanks for fruitcup. It suits me so much better at this time:)

206 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:00:56am

Good morning littleoldlady. I have missed your fruitcups. But sleeping during regular hours was so much fun.

207 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:01:04am

Sweet. *scarf*

208 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:01:04am

re: #202 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

yer late.... again!

209 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:01:51am

re: #206 BlueCanuck

Good morning littleoldlady. I have missed your fruitcups. But sleeping during regular hours was so much fun.

and so needed for an old fart like you.

/white smoke

210 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:02:11am

re: #202 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Nummy fruit cup .. with blueberries !

211 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:02:24am

re: #194 Rich H

Exactly.

Yet increasingly, there are countries (e.g., Canada, UK, Denmark) where this principle seems to be in danger of failing.

And that's troubling- no doubt about it. But as an American I have my own problems- mainly the principle of capitalism failing.

212 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:02:31am

re: #149 Sharmuta

Monday: -200 min.
Tuesday: +75
Wednesday: -150
Thursday: +2
Friday: -200

Dow Futures down around 100 at this writing.

213 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:02:52am

re: #210 Buster Bunny

Nummy fruit cup .. with blueberries !

those aren't blueberries..... the rabit ate all the dark blue uniform shirts yesterday.

214 Panhandler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:03:11am

re: #202 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thanks lol - no fumes from yours

215 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:03:32am
216 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:04:03am

It's gotten so I don't even watch the news anymore. I just end up swearing at the screen. It's making me ill.

217 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:04:08am

I should be fasting with Esther.

My usual annual "deliver 300 shalach munes baskets" job was supposed to have been done away with this year.

/can I collect unemployment?

I was informed by email yesterday that there's "a bunch of baskets that people haven't picked up yet" at the synagogue.

I probably won't have time to eat today...

218 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:04:49am

re: #212 gmsc

Dow Futures down around 100 at this writing.

AHWOOOGHA! AHWOOOOHHA!

NOW HEAR THIS! NOW HEAR THIS!

ALL HANDS TO DIVING STATIONS. THIS IS NO DRILL!

219 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:05:30am

re: #212 gmsc

Dow Futures down around 100 at this writing.

/give or take 30

220 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:06:07am

re: #217 littleoldlady

I should be fasting with Esther.

My usual annual "deliver 300 shalach munes baskets" job was supposed to have been done away with this year.

/can I collect unemployment?

I was informed by email yesterday that there's "a bunch of baskets that people haven't picked up yet" at the synagogue.

I probably won't have time to eat today...

see: G*d provides you with a mitzvah as you do a mitzvah.

221 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:06:24am

Sharmuta!

gmsc! :-)

red! :-)

Erik! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

Missed you!

Bunny! :-)

Panhandler! :-)

axgrinder! :-)

222 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:07:22am

re: #212 gmsc

You want to be scared? The graphs all point to a deeper decline than the 1929 Depression. Matching the graphs side by side and starting from roughly the same points .. to date .. we are on a tilt that just goes straight down.

And in 1929 the markets finished down 90%

223 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:08:10am

re: #221 littleoldlady

Sharmuta!

gmsc! :-)

red! :-)

Erik! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

Missed you!

then aim next time, and you won't have that problem.

224 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:08:25am

re: #221 littleoldlady


BlueCanuck! :-)

Missed you!


Thank you {littleoldlady}, it's nice to be missed. I am nice and recharged. Should be good for a couple of days. :D

225 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:08:27am
226 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:08:34am

Little late to the show....good mornin!

227 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:08:36am

I didn't get a smiley.... :(

228 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:09:03am
229 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:09:05am

re: #222 Buster Bunny

You want to be scared? The graphs all point to a deeper decline than the 1929 Depression. Matching the graphs side by side and starting from roughly the same points .. to date .. we are on a tilt that just goes straight down.

And in 1929 the markets finished down 90%

i guess we'll find out what "crush depth" is then....

230 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:09:14am

re: #223 redc1c4

Old joke, still use it myself from time to time.

231 Panhandler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:09:26am

re: #217 littleoldlady

You'll be just fine I betcha.
Endeavor to Perservere

232 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:09:31am

re: #224 BlueCanuck

Thank you {littleoldlady}, it's nice to be missed. I am nice and recharged. Should be good for a couple of days. :D

first time for everything!

/white smoke

233 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:10:16am

re: #227 Sharmuta

I didn't get a smiley.... :(

you can have mine: i'm allergic any way.

234 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:10:32am
235 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:10:55am

re: #222 Buster Bunny

You want to be scared? The graphs all point to a deeper decline than the 1929 Depression. Matching the graphs side by side and starting from roughly the same points .. to date .. we are on a tilt that just goes straight down.

And in 1929 the markets finished down 90%

The one that makes me concerned is not all the ones that are going down now, but the rise of this one in the past!

236 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:10:59am

re: #230 BlueCanuck

Old joke, still use it myself from time to time.

learned it from you when i was young.

237 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:11:05am

re: #222 Buster Bunny

The thing is there are a lot more unsophisticated investors this time around. Not just in numbers but percentage wise as well. There are many, many people that just will never sell their stock. They have a longer then 5 years horizon and will just keep plugging away. At least that is what I'm hoping for.

238 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:11:45am

re: #234 ploome hineni

stop smoking already, it's not good for you

i'm not worried: the leading cause of death in the US is living, and i don't have a life.

239 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:11:55am

Oh dear! My fingers are in still in spasm from yesterday.

/along with my back

{Sharmuta!} :-) :-) :-)

/hope that makes up for it

240 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:11:55am

re: #234 ploome hineni

With the amount of smoking and alcohol he imbibes, he's aiming for preservation. He also won't die young at that rate.

/besides only the good die young
//white smoke.

241 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:12:45am

re: #229 redc1c4

i guess we'll find out what "crush depth" is then....

DJIA 5320.

/and even Cramer thinks that's the absolute worst that can happen

242 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:12:57am

keep an eye on the trolls for me....

hasta y'all.

L8r!

back in a few hours

243 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:13:00am

re: #236 redc1c4

learned it from you when i was young.

If you keep that up sonny, I will smack you with my walker.

244 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:13:29am

Matrix! :-)

245 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:13:38am

re: #240 BlueCanuck

With the amount of smoking and alcohol he imbibes, he's aiming for preservation. He also won't die young at that rate.

/besides only the good die young
//white smoke.

you can't kill a man born to hang.

246 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:13:51am
247 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:15:21am
248 Rich H  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:15:22am

re: #211 Sharmuta

And that's troubling- no doubt about it. But as an American I have my own problems- mainly the principle of capitalism failing.

We are beset by many threats to out freedom these days. We all need to oppose these threats together. Good night Sharmuta.

249 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:15:35am

Panhandler,

SUNDAY is bloody. Monday is MANIC!

/get with the program!

;-)

250 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:15:35am

re: #239 littleoldlady

{lol}! I ♥ fruitcup and you too!

251 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:15:49am
252 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:16:58am

re: #246 ploome hineni

I thought Friday the 13th was THIS week.

253 Panhandler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:17:38am

re: #249 littleoldlady

Panhandler,

SUNDAY is bloody. Monday is MANIC!

/get with the program!

;-)

Sorry, forgot

254 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:17:46am
255 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:18:04am

re: #251 ploome hineni

get off the frigging computer and go do something

Ok, Dad.

256 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:18:14am

re: #249 littleoldlady

Panhandler,

SUNDAY is bloody. Monday is MANIC!

/get with the program!

;-)

257 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:18:30am
258 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:18:39am

Whatdaya have to do to get fruitcup around here. Seems to be all gone.

259 Panhandler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:19:10am

re: #256 gmsc

GMTA ,or something like that

260 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:19:14am
261 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:19:41am
262 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:20:18am

re: #246 ploome hineni

You know, some say things happen in threes.
Be careful.

263 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:21:03am

Panhandler,

gmsc,

There ya go! :-)

/wish I could move
//I'd dance along

UncleRancher! :-)

Plenty left! Bon appetit!

264 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:21:28am

re: #255 axegrinder

Ok, Dad.

MOM!

265 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:21:53am

re: #258 UncleRancher

Whatdaya have to do to get fruitcup around here. Seems to be all gone.

re: #258 UncleRancher

Whatdaya have to do to get fruitcup around here. Seems to be all gone.

"Those who are tardy do not get fruitcup."

266 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:22:13am

re: #257 ploome hineni

so are you saying to hold the stocks you have?

/it's way too late to sell now, unless you're into buy high sell low

267 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:22:48am

re: #254 ploome hineni

broke the toilet

not the shelf

Need to hit the junk yard to get a decent sized tank these days. Darn tree-huggers. They've already invaded your bathroom and now they're going after your car. After we nationalize the auto industry, you'll be forced to drive a midget car or take the bus.

268 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:22:53am

re: #263 littleoldlady

Panhandler,

gmsc,

There ya go! :-)

/wish I could move
//I'd dance along

UncleRancher! :-)

Plenty left! Bon appetit!

Alright! Another whole tray full! Thanks anyway Ploome, I'll take the fresh.

269 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:24:29am
270 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:24:32am

The good news for today -- One less day of Obama to look forward to.

271 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:24:38am

re: #257 ploome hineni

so are you saying to hold the stocks you have?

Of course not. Depends on what you have. I'm well diversified but suffering right along with everyone else. I'm worth half what i was worth 6 months ago. Sucks.

272 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:24:44am

Okay, now the DJIA is triple digits down.

/-114

273 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:25:08am

re: #270 UncleRancher

The good news for today -- One less day of Obama to look forward to.

0bamaclock

274 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:25:51am

re: #272 Killian Bundy

Okay, now the DJIA is triple digits down.

/-114

Impressive, especially consider it won't be opening for another few hours.

(Are you sure you don't mean the Dow Jones Futures?)

275 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:25:54am

re: #264 littleoldlady

MOM!

Ooops. Sorry. My eyes aren't open yet. Still groggy...

276 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:26:15am
277 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:27:28am

re: #274 gmsc

Impressive, especially consider it won't be opening for another few hours.

(Are you sure you don't mean the Dow Jones Futures?)

/yeah. yeah, yeah, futures, now -144

278 Panhandler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:28:00am

re: #264 littleoldlady

MOM!

Ahem

279 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:28:04am
280 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:28:05am

By the time 0bama comes up for re-election I think we'll be seeing the Dow back in the Carter range.

281 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:29:09am

re: #278 Panhandler

I LOVE THAT! :-)

282 WhiteRasta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:29:30am

OK, here's a bit of fun:

Give Ted Kennedy a name to go with his Knighthood. I have already read Sir Chivas of Regal, so that one is out.

Mine is : Sir Johnnie Walker.

Any others?

283 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:30:21am

re: #279 ploome hineni

I lost between 20-30%

/lucky you

284 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:31:28am
285 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:31:38am

re: #282 WhiteRasta

Sir Breaststroke?, Sir Splash?, Sir Chappaquiddick?.............

286 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:32:05am

re: #282 WhiteRasta

OK, here's a bit of fun:

Give Ted Kennedy a name to go with his Knighthood. I have already read Sir Chivas of Regal, so that one is out.

Mine is : Sir Johnnie Walker.

Any others?

Chap of Quiddick?

287 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:32:16am
HANG SENG -576.94 -4.84% 11,344.58

/China, spanked

288 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:32:58am

re: #75 redc1c4
I started telling people who asked me for numbers that I had lost count years ago just like I stopped counting jumps at 500. Last person who asked me turned a sickly shade of green and wouldn't get within 20 or 30 feet of me if he could avoid it. I assume he assumed I was inferring a kill count in the 500 plus range.

289 Panhandler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:34:32am

re: #283 Killian Bundy

re: #284 ploome hineni

A double edged sword. Assets you lost can't be redeemed. Assets not redeemed can't be taxed at the new "You owe it to be Patriotic rate"

290 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:35:10am

re: #288 Rustler

I started telling people who asked me for numbers that I had lost count years ago just like I stopped counting jumps at 500. Last person who asked me turned a sickly shade of green and wouldn't get within 20 or 30 feet of me if he could avoid it. I assume he assumed I was inferring a kill count in the 500 plus range.

I just look at them and say "Please don't get me started... again".

291 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:36:07am

re: #282 WhiteRasta

OK, here's a bit of fun:

Give Ted Kennedy a name to go with his Knighthood. I have already read Sir Chivas of Regal, so that one is out.

Mine is : Sir Johnnie Walker.

Any others?

Ain't he dead yet?

292 WhiteRasta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:36:43am

re: #286 gmsc

Ding, ding, ding. You win the prize!

293 Panhandler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:38:05am

re: #291 axegrinder

That rumbling sound you hear is coming from the thin ice you're standing on.

294 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:38:26am

re: #292 WhiteRasta

Ding, ding, ding. You win the prize!

Thank you!

295 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:39:48am

Time for me to turn in.

Good night, all!

296 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:40:15am

re: #291 axegrinder

Ain't he dead yet?

Quite possibly. Fidel Castro, Kim Jong Il, Osama bin Laden, same category. I figure it is more convenient for some of these to remain alive long after physical demise for political reasons.

297 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:40:27am

Night gmsc, may you have numeric dreams.

298 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:41:50am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

299 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:42:01am

re: #293 Panhandler

s'k. I brought a jet ski.

300 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:44:13am

re: #295 gmsc

Good night!

301 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:44:21am

re: #277 Killian Bundy

/yeah. yeah, yeah, futures, now -144

Hey Obama, did you have a nice weekend off at Camp David?

You didn't happen to come back with a comprehensive plan to deal with the toxic bank assets, did you?

/so we can stop losing money EVERY [EXPLETIVE DELETED] DAY YOU AND YOUR CLOWN POSSE CONTINUE TO SLACK OFF?

302 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:44:27am

Does anyone actually believe either Castro or Osama are still kicking? Seems they'd be trotted out for photo ops if they were.

303 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:45:52am

re: #301 Killian Bundy

Leave him alone, Killian!

/he's tired

304 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:46:35am

re: #290 UncleRancher That's always a bad Idea as the idiots can then get you charges for assault.

305 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:49:49am

Sheesh, I hope we're not ALL staring at the computer waiting for somebody to say something interesting. Cause that would just be sad.

306 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:50:46am

re: #302 axegrinder
Given the Video from Mid January in which Osama talks about fairly recent events such as Obama's winning the election he may still be alive. Castro and Kim I think are worm food however.

307 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:51:02am

re: #303 littleoldlady

Leave him alone, Killian!

/he's tired

Just let him eat his waffle.

308 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:51:23am

Rev. Wright Cautions: Obama 'Ain't Jesus'


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

309 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:51:25am

Something interesting.

310 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:52:45am

President Barack Obama declares America should be ready to talk to the Taliban

American forces are prepared to make overtures to moderate Taliban commanders using an approach that saw insurgents in Iraq turn against al-Qaeda, President Barack Obama has said.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

311 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:52:58am

re: #301 Killian Bundy

Hey Obama, did you have a nice weekend off at Camp David?

You didn't happen to come back with a comprehensive plan to deal with the toxic bank assets, did you?

/so we can stop losing money EVERY [EXPLETIVE DELETED] DAY YOU AND YOUR CLOWN POSSE CONTINUE TO SLACK OFF?

I wish they were slacking off. They are some busy little beavers. Increasing the size of government and paying off lobbyists. It's like Biden said; there dancin' with those that brought 'em. It's going to get even uglier.

312 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:53:36am

re: #303 littleoldlady

Leave him alone, Killian!

/he's tired

I was going to say something about Marie Antoinette, the Secret Service, and everyone eating cake today.

/but I'll let it go because it wouldn't be right

313 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:54:59am

re: #304 Rustler

That's always a bad Idea as the idiots can then get you charges for assault.

I try not to hang around with idiots.

314 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:56:05am

re: #297 BlueCanuck

Blue could you give me a energy pack for Mafia? Thanks

315 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:56:34am

re: #314 Erik The Red

Blue could you give me a energy pack for Mafia? Thanks

Did you get the one I sent?

316 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:57:10am

re: #315 Dustyvet

Did you get the one I sent?

Yes thanks you should also have gotten one from me.

317 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:58:35am

re: #316 Erik The Red

Yes thanks you should also have gotten one from me.

Just sent another one...I got no clue just how that works...

318 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:58:52am

re: #314 Erik The Red

I can't yet. Hasn't been 24 hours yet.

319 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:59:19am

re: #317 Dustyvet

Just sent another one...I got no clue just how that works...

Only can send 1 every 24 hours.

320 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:59:34am

re: #318 BlueCanuck

I can't yet. Hasn't been 24 hours yet.

Damn thanks.

321 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:59:49am

re: #319 Erik The Red

Only can send 1 every 24 hours.

Oh...otays...

322 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:00:07am

re: #309 Sharmuta

Something interesting.

Thank you.

323 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:01:16am

re: #322 axegrinder

I try to help.

324 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:03:32am

re: #306 Rustler

Given the Video from Mid January in which Osama talks about fairly recent events such as Obama's winning the election he may still be alive. Castro and Kim I think are worm food however.


I missed that video. Do you have a link for it?

325 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:06:57am

re: #324 Scorch

I missed that video. Do you have a link for it?

I wonder if it's the same cracker jack intelligence guys telling us that that was Osama that used to tell us about WMD's and what not. Seems to me Obama would have a multitude of cousins with voice signatures close enough to pass. I'm just sayin'

326 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:07:42am

I'm Drifting Away...

Happy Purim, y'all!

Good day, ALL!™

327 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:08:44am

Have an awesome day, thx for the fruitcup!

328 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:12:42am

Morning Lizards.

329 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:13:00am

re: #325 axegrinder

A search only turns out audio tapes from January through March. It seems if he was alive he would want to show his carcass to all the world and not an old photo op of him sitting there with his ak in hand.

330 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:13:04am

WHOA. before I (really) leave...take a look at THIS.

/we're not as dumb as we look...

331 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:13:50am

re: #328 rightside

Morning starboard side.

332 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:15:22am

re: #330 littleoldlady

The thrill is gone.

333 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:16:07am

F 1.70 (peaked at 36)
GM 1.45 (peaked at 93.62)
GE 7.06 (Peaked at 60)
There is not much down-side left for the bottom feeders.

334 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:16:50am

re: #330 littleoldlady

WHOA. before I (really) leave...take a look at THIS.

/we're not as dumb as we look...

It's taken quite the stumble. From +30 to +8. In about a month!

335 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:22:29am

re: #333 UncleRancher

F 1.70 (peaked at 36)
GM 1.45 (peaked at 93.62)
GE 7.06 (Peaked at 60)
There is not much down-side left for the bottom feeders.

I bought GE at 15 bucks because it was a steal. Bought again at 9 bucks because it was an even better steal. Now half of me desperately wants to get in on this basement deal at 7 and the other half wants to unload before it goes to zero. So I compromise and do nothing. It's always easier anyway.

336 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:22:30am

Good morning, Lizards!

337 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:24:16am

Good morning {goddess}. How's things?

338 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:24:24am

re: #336 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

Mornin'

339 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:24:54am

re: #336 goddessoftheclassroom
Good morning goddess. I need to make a cup of joe run.

340 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:24:59am

re: #336 goddessoftheclassroom

back at ya

341 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:26:46am

{BlueCanuck}
{TheMatrix31}
{Scorch}
{axegrinder)

I'm fine, thanks! This week I have to finish up the last details from the musical, such as shipping back scripts. It was a great production.

Now maybe I can get my house clean...

342 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:27:18am

re: #336 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

343 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:28:05am

re: #341 goddessoftheclassroom

{BlueCanuck}
{TheMatrix31}
{Scorch}
{axegrinder)

I'm fine, thanks! This week I have to finish up the last details from the musical, such as shipping back scripts. It was a great production.

Now maybe I can get my house clean...

I wish my house could be cleaned. It's a total mess. Little brother and sister destroy the place.

344 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:28:41am

re: #341 goddessoftheclassroom

What musical?

345 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:29:53am

it is also true that some of the most helpful books are those that some find top be the most offensive.

346 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:30:04am

I thought that's what kids were for. Cleaning stuff up and fetching beers and making sandwiches and what not. What's the good in having them otherwise?

347 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:30:56am

re: #324 Scorch Was Audio actually not Video and only been able to dig up untranslated and non English versions so far.

348 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:31:34am

Gotta run. Adios.

349 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:32:13am

re: #342 rightside

{goddess}

{rigthside}

The musical was Forty-Five Minutes from Broadway--LOTS of George M. Cohan favorites.

350 axegrinder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:32:50am

Yeah, I'm gone too. good day all

351 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:35:11am

re: #347 Rustler

Roger that Rustler. Thanks for the search.

352 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:38:04am

re: #349 goddessoftheclassroom

{rigthside}

The musical was Forty-Five Minutes from Broadway--LOTS of George M. Cohan favorites.

353 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:45:42am

re: #352 Dustyvet

Thanks!

354 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:52:31am

I wonder why North Korea can never launch a satellite or have a missle test without threatening war?

355 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:56:01am

The same reason Islamofacists can't have a civil conversation without demanding an apology for some perceived slight. It's both a habit and a way of passing blame along from the government for the sake of the masses.

356 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:56:13am

re: #354 Scorch

I wonder why North Korea can never launch a satellite or have a missle test without threatening war?

For the same reason a mosquito can't land on your arm without threatening to sting you. IT'S WHAT THEY DO!

357 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:00:10am

re: #355 Rustler

The same reason Islamofacists can't have a civil conversation without demanding an apology for some perceived slight. It's both a habit and a way of passing blame along from the government for the sake of the masses.

Sounds a lot like our current administration.

358 summergurl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:02:55am

Morning Lizards -

Just read the N. Korea article/warning and am sipping coffee getting my bearings.

359 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:04:31am

re: #357 Scorch //Yeah I Didn't want to say that out load as there are 4 scarey looking Suv's in our parkinglot with obama logo's if I disappear for some time it's cause I'm being re-educated.

360 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:05:14am

re: #358 summergurl

Good morning. Still sweeping the cobwebs out myself.

361 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:05:57am

re: #359 Rustler

//Yeah I Didn't want to say that out load as there are 4 scarey looking Suv's in our parkinglot with obama logo's if I disappear for some time it's cause I'm being re-educated.

They wouldn't have that problem with me. I was never EDUCATED in the 1st place!

362 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:07:19am

re: #359 Rustler

//Yeah I Didn't want to say that out load as there are 4 scarey looking Suv's in our parkinglot with obama logo's if I disappear for some time it's cause I'm being re-educated.

LOL good luck to them trying to re-educate you!

363 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:07:35am

Good morning, all!

My PT test came back funky and my INR is a bit off. Gotta have my blood checked AGAIN today. *Sigh*

I keep telling them that my blood is just supercharged, but do they believe me? Noooooooooooooo!

364 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:08:27am

re: #361 sattv4u2

Shhh don't let them know that.

365 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:10:47am

re: #359 Rustler

//Yeah I Didn't want to say that out load as there are 4 scarey looking Suv's in our parkinglot with obama logo's if I disappear for some time it's cause I'm being re-educated.

SUV?

Obama Logos?

Somebody missed the point, right? That's like barbecue joints in the South that always have a drawing of a smiling pig. No one has ever told this pig exactly where 'Que comes from!

/No, you weren't invited over FOR dinner, you're going to BE dinner!

366 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:15:23am

re: #363 SteveC

Good morning, all!

My PT test came back funky and my INR is a bit off. Gotta have my blood checked AGAIN today. *Sigh*

I keep telling them that my blood is just supercharged, but do they believe me? Noooooooooooooo!


Good morning and hope you have more comforting results from the next round.

367 3 wood  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:17:43am

Good morning.

Well, we are now at the point that the Obama administration is on the verge of mismanaging the recession into a full blown depression.

The credit markets are seizing up again in reaction to the gross incompetance of Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner. We are close to 4 weeks since Geithner puked on his shoes and ran out of the room, promising more details on his banking plan later. Well, there have been no further details, just a couple public comments by Geithner where he trashed the coal and banking industries, said taxes should be increased and complained that he can't get anybody to come work for him. This performance has convinced the bond market that he is out of his depth, will totally screw the pooch and so the corporate bond holders are scared that they will lose their investments. The TED spread has jumped in the past week.

Get ready for another large sell off in the market this week.

368 Scorch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:18:04am

I'm off to face the sunrise and stick a few more seeds in the ground. Have a great day all.

369 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:19:56am

re: #367 3 wood

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

370 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:21:04am

re: #365 SteveC
That's the point of the Obama administration it's all about do as I say not as I do. You know like how he reformed public schools yet is sending his daughters to private school.

371 3 wood  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:21:38am

Administration Backers Plead for Patience on Economic Recovery Efforts

Concern is growing that the Obama administration's prescriptions for the ailing economy aren't working because the stock market still continues to collapse, unemployment rates are up and no signs of a turnaround can be seen yet, but the president's supporters say patience will pay off.

"I wouldn't measure the stock market over the day to day as to how well we're doing. I think that you're going to have to give the president's plans, which are just taking effect this week, some time to work," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said Sunday.

"It does take some time before things -- before people realize that the substance is actually getting better. My guess is that'll start later this year or the first part of next year, and we're moving aggressively to make sure that it does," said Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind

372 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:21:42am

re: #366 Scorch

Good morning and hope you have more comforting results from the next round.

Thanks! it's not painful, just a pain. But I always let the student nurses listen to my heart, it's fun to see the looks on their faces!

And yeah, I probably am flirting just a little, but I've got a heartbeat that'll make your jaw drop. They may never hear a sound like that again.... or they may be in an ER somewhere, put a stethoscope on a patient in trouble, and say "Wait a minute, I've heard something like this before..." and be able to help that man/woman out.

You never know.

373 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:22:10am

re: #367 3 wood

Good morning.

Well, we are now at the point that the Obama administration is on the verge of mismanaging the recession into a full blown depression.

The credit markets are seizing up again in reaction to the gross incompetance of Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner. We are close to 4 weeks since Geithner puked on his shoes and ran out of the room, promising more details on his banking plan later. Well, there have been no further details, just a couple public comments by Geithner where he trashed the coal and banking industries, said taxes should be increased and complained that he can't get anybody to come work for him. This performance has convinced the bond market that he is out of his depth, will totally screw the pooch and so the corporate bond holders are scared that they will lose their investments. The TED spread has jumped in the past week.

Get ready for another large sell off in the market this week.

Oh, good grief!
There goes the college fund.
And the retirement funds.
And really, well, everything.
Holy cow.
We are so screwed.

374 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:26:11am

re: #373 reine.de.tout

Oh, good grief!
There goes the college fund.
And the retirement funds.
And really, well, everything.
Holy cow.
We are so screwed.

We ought to be getting used to it by now. We've been bent over the hood of the car, violated on the kitchen table, and rolled around on the living room floor. I don't think they've even gotten us to the bedroom yet.

/Bet they won't even love us in the morning.

375 3 wood  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:26:40am

re: #369 MandyManners

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

I hope I'm wrong but the market has given up on this new administration.

Nothing they do makes sense in market terms, Obama has done everything he can to gum up the works, promised increased taxes, spending massive amounts of money we don't have, and is letting his Treasury Chief get away with doing nothing.

The key to moving the economy forward is stabilizing the banking industry. That is the whole ball game right there.

Obama has done nothing but hurt that effort since he has been in office.

It's like realizing that your new baseball team manager does not even know how to fill out a line up card.

376 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:26:51am

I paid $50.00 for a carton of smokes yesterday. I wonder how expensive they will be after that fucking Commie bastard gets done taxing them. What's he gonna' do to my Basil Hayden's? $^)*&&^%%^^&*

377 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:26:57am

re: #374 SteveC

We ought to be getting used to it by now. We've been bent over the hood of the car, violated on the kitchen table, and rolled around on the living room floor. I don't think they've even gotten us to the bedroom yet.

/Bet they won't even love us in the morning.

Heck, they haven't even kissed us first.

/now where did I put that jar of vaseline...

378 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:29:00am

re: #376 MandyManners

I'm guessing Marlboro light 100's?

379 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:29:51am

re: #378 rightside

I'm guessing Marlboro light 100's?

unfiltered Camels ,,,!

380 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:29:56am

re: #376 MandyManners

I paid $50.00 for a carton of smokes yesterday. I wonder how expensive they will be after that fucking Commie bastard gets done taxing them. What's he gonna' do to my Basil Hayden's? $^)*&&^%%^^&*

Heard on the Bad News Today show that RJR was going to raise prices an average of 75 cents. And that is BEFORE any new taxes.

381 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:30:55am

re: #375 3 wood

I hope I'm wrong but the market has given up on this new administration.

Nothing they do makes sense in market terms, Obama has done everything he can to gum up the works, promised increased taxes, spending massive amounts of money we don't have, and is letting his Treasury Chief get away with doing nothing.

The key to moving the economy forward is stabilizing the banking industry. That is the whole ball game right there.

Obama has done nothing but hurt that effort since he has been in office.

It's like realizing that your new baseball team manager does not even know how to fill out a line up card.

I read here yesterday that McCain said some banks should be allowed to fail. Just this morning I saw a clip on Fox in which Dick Shelby (on the Senate Banking Committee) said the same thing, specifically citing Citibank. Huh?

And, what's this about one of FCBBHO's minions saying last week that the FDIC needs lotsa' cash?

382 3 wood  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:31:29am

re: #373 reine.de.tout

Oh, good grief!
There goes the college fund.
And the retirement funds.
And really, well, everything.
Holy cow.
We are so screwed.

I'm at the point where I think so.

Bush left the situation where with some competant handling the Obama Administration would have just had a normal recession to deal with. But Obama has done exactly the wrong thing at the wrong time, and I fear now that this is going to be really bad and last for a very long time.

But the MSM will adore the guy.

383 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:31:55am

re: #378 rightside

I'm guessing Marlboro light 100's?

re: #379 sattv4u2

unfiltered Camels ,,,!

Marlboro Lights shorts, box only.

384 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:32:18am

re: #380 SteveC

Heard on the Bad News Today show that RJR was going to raise prices an average of 75 cents. And that is BEFORE any new taxes.

What the fuck is RJR's problem?!

385 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:32:27am

re: #383 MandyManners

Close!

386 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:34:20am

re: #384 MandyManners

Well we are feeling the pain up here too. My brand went up by about a quarter a pack last week. If you are paying $50 a carton, I think for once ours are cheaper then yours. When I lived on the border I would buy a carton of american smokes, Winstons, and save money. That's including the exchange rate as well.

387 3 wood  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:36:36am

re: #381 MandyManners

I read here yesterday that McCain said some banks should be allowed to fail. Just this morning I saw a clip on Fox in which Dick Shelby (on the Senate Banking Committee) said the same thing, specifically citing Citibank. Huh?

And, what's this about one of FCBBHO's minions saying last week that the FDIC needs lotsa' cash?

If the "mark to market" valuation model was dropped in favor of discounted cash flows, these banks would suddenly have double the capital on their books, there would then be a market for the mortgages and the credit would start moving, and the banking industry would become very stable again.

And the FDIC was having problems covering all the defaults, but that could have been taken care of quietly behind the scenes. Problem is, the FDIC head Blair said so publicly, thus causing an electronic run on the banks last week that badly damaged some of them.

388 3 wood  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:37:05am

Got to get ready for work.

Later.

389 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:37:07am

re: #385 rightside

Close!

But, no cigar.

390 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:37:41am

re: #386 BlueCanuck

Well we are feeling the pain up here too. My brand went up by about a quarter a pack last week. If you are paying $50 a carton, I think for once ours are cheaper then yours. When I lived on the border I would buy a carton of american smokes, Winstons, and save money. That's including the exchange rate as well.

I've heard that federal taxes will be about .70/pack.

391 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:38:31am

re: #387 3 wood

If the "mark to market" valuation model was dropped in favor of discounted cash flows, these banks would suddenly have double the capital on their books, there would then be a market for the mortgages and the credit would start moving, and the banking industry would become very stable again.

And the FDIC was having problems covering all the defaults, but that could have been taken care of quietly behind the scenes. Problem is, the FDIC head Blair said so publicly, thus causing an electronic run on the banks last week that badly damaged some of them.

All this cannot be merely bumbling incompetence.

392 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:38:59am

re: #384 MandyManners

What the fuck is RJR's problem?!

Several factors is my guess
A) they are still paying for those massive loses they had in the courts years ago (class action suits and mostly the government cases)
B) domestically smoking is down, so they make up revenue on those that still do

393 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:39:23am

You'd think that Obama would have more sympathy with smokers.

394 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:39:55am

re: #389 MandyManners

I gave up cigars when I quit smoking cigarettes. (just over 3 years now)The temptation I think would have been too great to pick up smokes again.

395 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:40:06am

re: #382 3 wood

I'm at the point where I think so.

Bush left the situation where with some competant handling the Obama Administration would have just had a normal recession to deal with. But Obama has done exactly the wrong thing at the wrong time, and I fear now that this is going to be really bad and last for a very long time.

But the MSM will adore the guy.

I dunno.
I suspect their retirement accounts are disappearing at an alarming rate, also, and theirs were most likely much bigger than mine were.

396 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:40:13am

re: #393 DistantThunder

You'd think that Obama would have more sympathy with smokers.

yeah ,,, like he goes down to the local 7/11 and buys a pack out of his own wallet!

397 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:40:25am

re: #390 MandyManners

I've heard that federal taxes will be about .70/pack.

I believe that on a $10 dollar pack, over half is taxes. I am using a premium brand, bought in downtown store. Shopping around can get a better price, usually a dollar savings minimum.

398 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:40:43am

re: #384 MandyManners

What the fuck is RJR's problem?!

They've gotten on the "stop smoking" bandwagon?

399 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:40:44am

re: #392 sattv4u2

Several factors is my guess
A) they are still paying for those massive loses they had in the courts years ago (class action suits and mostly the government cases)
B) domestically smoking is down, so they make up revenue on those that still do

RJR is not the only game in town.

400 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:40:55am

It's fiscal sabotage by political predators. American Thinker says it's Munchausen by Proxy - make the patient sick or sicker for the attention and aggrandizement when the patient recovers.

401 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:42:05am

re: #393 DistantThunder

You'd think that Obama would have more sympathy with smokers.

What does he care?! He probably gets them tax-free. Or, maybe he uses the household budget (incidentals) to buy them.

402 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:42:20am

re: #393 DistantThunder Why he can get his smokes duty free.

403 summergurl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:43:01am

re: #391 MandyManners

All this cannot be merely bumbling incompetence.

I think it's his plan - just like he wanted to snub Britain ...

A stack of DVD's as a gift? What a clod... or not...

Obamanerless

404 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:43:29am

re: #400 DistantThunder The problem is Munchausen by proxy can still cause death like it's looking will happen with the economy.

405 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:43:50am

re: #403 summergurl

I think it's his plan - just like he wanted to snub Britain ...

A stack of DVD's as a gift? What a clod... or not...

Obamanerless

I read that Gordon Brown is blind in one eye, and has serious vision issues with the other - what a slap in the face gift.

406 summergurl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:44:23am

re: #401 MandyManners

What does he care?! He probably gets them tax-free. Or, maybe he uses the household budget (incidentals) to buy them.


Naw, he probably bums them from the Secret Service guys, that sounds more like him.

407 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:45:05am

re: #394 rightside

I gave up cigars when I quit smoking cigarettes. (just over 3 years now)The temptation I think would have been too great to pick up smokes again.

It is stupid to pay $200.00/mo. for something that can endanger my health, isn't it?

408 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:45:36am

One sign of narcissitic Prsnality Disorder is bad gift giving. Without the desire to imagine what the other person might enjoy, the narcissist is all about the cheapest and easiest gift. What is that quote about Daisy Buchannan and carelessness?

409 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:45:49am

re: #397 BlueCanuck

I believe that on a $10 dollar pack, over half is taxes. I am using a premium brand, bought in downtown store. Shopping around can get a better price, usually a dollar savings minimum.

Ten dollars? That's $100.00/carton.

410 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:45:52am

re: #406 summergurl //Nah that poor unpaid intern is Barack's Smoke Supplier :P

411 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:46:33am

re: #398 reine.de.tout

They've gotten on the "stop smoking" bandwagon?

Why?

412 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:46:33am

re: #407 MandyManners
Nah don't you realise healthcare will be free, free I tell ya.

413 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:47:21am

re: #407 MandyManners

It is stupid to pay $200.00/mo. for something that can endanger my health, isn't it?

NO it makes perfect sense when you understand that the chemicals have altered your brain to create more craving receptors, so the withdrawl is exceptionally hard for some people. The manufacturers added extra nicotine for that exact outcome.

414 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:47:38am

re: #400 DistantThunder

It's fiscal sabotage by political predators. American Thinker says it's Munchausen by Proxy - make the patient sick or sicker for the attention and aggrandizement when the patient recovers.

MbP? Wow. I've never thought about that angle.

415 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:48:55am

re: #403 summergurl

I think it's his plan - just like he wanted to snub Britain ...

A stack of DVD's as a gift? What a clod... or not...

Obamanerless

Who's gonna' be our next special ally? Fwance?

416 BethesdaDog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:49:12am

OK, Charles.

No more birth certificate discussion.

No more about who really attacked the World Trade Center.

It's your board. You can do what you want.

We still haven't discussed whether the federal income tax is legal.

I assume that's OK.

417 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:49:23am

Both my grandmother and my neighbor lost a long to lung cancer and were miserable after the operations. It was like suffocating every day. My neighbor said he couldn't hardly focus on conversations, he had to focus on breathing. Very alarming outcomes.

418 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:49:31am

re: #411 MandyManners

Why?

No, it was a joke about the price of the pack of cigarettes being so high.

419 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:49:36am

re: #406 summergurl

Naw, he probably bums them from the Secret Service guys, that sounds more like him.

I thought they didn't smoke.

420 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:50:12am

re: #399 MandyManners

RJR is not the only game in town.

true ,, but ALL the manufacturers were called on the carpet by congress and the class action lawyers at about the same time.

421 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:50:52am

Do they have smoking rehab facilities where they just chain you to a chair and bring you meals? I'd sign up for that if I smoked.

422 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:53:25am

re: #421 DistantThunder

Do they have smoking rehab facilities where they just chain you to a chair and bring you meals? I'd sign up for that if I smoked.

There are ladies that for about $300 an hour will do that for you, complete with a "happy ending" !

BAD SATT ,,, BAD BAD BAD !

423 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:53:48am

re: #408 DistantThunder

One sign of narcissitic Prsnality Disorder is bad gift giving. Without the desire to imagine what the other person might enjoy, the narcissist is all about the cheapest and easiest gift. What is that quote about Daisy Buchannan and carelessness?

It's not that the Narcissist has no desire to imagine what the other might enjoy, it's that the N. can NOT imagine that. He has no empathy.

424 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:54:25am

re: #412 Rustler

Nah don't you realise healthcare will be free, free I tell ya.

Paid for by higher cigarette taxes.

425 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:55:18am

Gotta' make coffee. bbiab

426 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:55:36am

re: #407 MandyManners

As a former smoker, I know how hard it is. I finally said enough, and quit.

I'm sure you've heard the lecture, so I won't say anything about that. You are smart enough to decide what's best for you.

A carton here is about $30 roughly.

427 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:55:40am

Behind the Brain Chemistry of Why it is so Difficult to Quit Smoking

Often, the depth of a person's addiction to nicotine can depend on their internal chemistry, says Jerry Stitzel, PhD, of the University of Colorado, who designed a study to evaluate the effects of nicotine over the course of a day.

Article describes various experiments and what they revealed about brain chemistry and smoking.

429 BethesdaDog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:58:27am

Gordon Brown does indeed have very serious vision problems. He's blind in one eye, and losing his vision in another.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

I can't believe how stupid the White House staff and this President are...oh, yes I can.

It's just coming out faster than I thought it would. That's what happens when you elect a strutting adolescent who thinks he's just taken over the student government.

In all my life, and I've been around now for quite some time--having lived through more than half a dozen presidents as an adult--I've never once heard or read of anyone complaining they had to get out of the White House because of the pressure (and go to an elementary school for relief), or is overwhelmed by the workload and is "too tired."

He's a narcissistic spoiled brat. He's in way over his head.

430 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:59:09am

re: #423 MandyManners

It's not that the Narcissist has no desire to imagine what the other might enjoy, it's that the N. can NOT imagine that. He has no empathy.

But the narcissist can imagine it when it suits his desire to manipulate the other person. Hence the focus on hope and change and Santa Claus promises. It borders on the sociopathic - people who can easily read people, but are not motivated by love, but rather power. They are too lazy to put themselves out most of the time, but when see a "mark" then they are highly motivated.

With Brown - obama figured that Brown already loved him so why bother.

431 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:00:05am

re: #429 BethesdaDog

Gordon Brown does indeed have very serious vision problems. He's blind in one eye, and losing his vision in another.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

I can't believe how stupid the White House staff and this President are...oh, yes I can.

It's just coming out faster than I thought it would. That's what happens when you elect a strutting adolescent who thinks he's just taken over the student government.

In all my life, and I've been around now for quite some time--having lived through more than half a dozen presidents as an adult--I've never once heard or read of anyone complaining they had to get out of the White House because of the pressure (and go to an elementary school for relief), or is overwhelmed by the workload and is "too tired."

He's a narcissistic spoiled brat. He's in way over his head.

Only Child Syndrome - arrogant brat who knows how to behave among certain people - and can when he wants to.

432 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:03:46am

I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.

I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.

w00t

433 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:04:54am

re: #432 Erik The Red

Congrats! Where are you moving to here? State?

434 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:05:38am

re: #433 rightside

Congrats! Where are you moving to here? State?

Central Florida.

435 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:06:03am

Good Morning all. A brand new Monday & the Dear Leader continues the searc for the "Moderate" Thal ee Bhan.

436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:06:48am

Did you miss me. Just woke up. Blissful, blissful slumber.

437 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:07:42am

re: #436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did you miss me. Just woke up. Blissful, blissful slumber.


didn't even know you were gone!

//

438 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:11:07am

re: #432 Erik The Red

I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.

I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.

w00t

Wonderful news Erik :-) Good on you!

439 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:12:16am

re: #436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

With every round.

/needs glasses.

440 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:12:30am

re: #438 aussiemagpie

Wonderful news Erik :-) Good on you!

Makes up for the very bad cricket.

441 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:15:20am

I don't believe it. The Kid turned up the heat to 84. I reckon he doesn't think $600.00/mo. for electricity is enough.

442 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:15:33am

re: #440 Erik The Red

Makes up for the very bad cricket.

Hey, I'm LOVING the cricket :-)

But your news is even better than the cricket...

443 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:16:08am

Scouse Vasectomy

After having their 11th child, a Liverpool couple decided that was enough,
as the social wouldn't buy them a bigger bed and they weren't strong enough
to nick one.

The husband went to his doctor and told him that he and his wife didn't want
to have any more children.

The doctor told him there was a procedure called a vasectomy that would fix
the problem but it was expensive. A less costly alternative was to go home,
get a firework, light it, put it in a beer can, then hold the can up to his
ear and count to 10.

The Scouser said to the doctor, 'I may not be the smartest guy in the world,
but I don't see how putting a firework in a beer can next to my ear is going
to help me.'

'Trust me, it will do the job', said the doctor.

So the man went home, lit a banger and put it in a beer can. He held the can
up to his ear and began to count: '1, 2, 3, 4, 5,' at which point he
paused, placed the beer can between his legs so he could continue counting
on his other hand.

This procedure also works in Leatherhead, parts of Bradford and anywhere
in Wales .

444 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:16:40am

THe Chicago Tribune reported yesterday that White House "Sources" are saying that Obama really did not snub Gordon Brown. It is just that our leader is exhausted from doing the work of the people. He is being advised to get more rest.
Also , the new Administration is not familiar with the diplomatic protocols.
Wasn't Emanuel in the Clinton Administration?

445 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:19:31am

re: #430 DistantThunder

But the narcissist can imagine it when it suits his desire to manipulate the other person. Hence the focus on hope and change and Santa Claus promises. It borders on the sociopathic - people who can easily read people, but are not motivated by love, but rather power. They are too lazy to put themselves out most of the time, but when see a "mark" then they are highly motivated.

With Brown - obama figured that Brown already loved him so why bother.

Precisely! He does it not out of a desire to please for the sake of the other's pleasure per se but, out of a desire to rule. If that sorry motherfucker cared about America, he and his advisers would be busy working to do what is needed to turn this around instead of throwing parties and flying hither thither and yon touting what he has done to rescue a measly 27 jobs for which there will be no funding next year.

446 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:19:55am

re: #432 Erik The Red

I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.

I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.

w00t

FANTASTIC!

447 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:20:12am

re: #432 Erik The Red

I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.

I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.

w00t

Super-congratulations

448 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:22:36am

re: #441 MandyManners

I don't believe it. The Kid turned up the heat to 84. I reckon he doesn't think $600.00/mo. for electricity is enough.

Mine left the hose running all night. Yard is flooded and well pump working round the clock.

449 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:22:53am

re: #413 DistantThunder

NO it makes perfect sense when you understand that the chemicals have altered your brain to create more craving receptors, so the withdrawl is exceptionally hard for some people. The manufacturers added extra nicotine for that exact outcome.

The nicotine clears the body in (?) 72 hours but, what's the hard part for me is the mental addiction. I grab my cup of coffee and drink, I reach for a smoke. I sit down at the computer, I reach for a smoke.

450 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:23:16am

re: #438 aussiemagpie

re: #446 MandyManners

re: #447 DistantThunder

Thanks all:)

451 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:23:37am

re: #448 DistantThunder Wait til later today when you see him and his bike the Hose was intentional :P.

452 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:24:32am

re: #432 Erik The Red
Grats and Good luck. Now to teach the kids to be americans outside what they learned from Hanna Montana :P.

453 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:24:47am

re: #448 DistantThunder

Mine left the hose running all night. Yard is flooded and well pump working round the clock.

Bless their hearts! I've often thought that if our brains suddenly reverted to what we had when we were there ages, we'd go stark, raving insane.

It's warm here but, it got a bit chilly this morning so he cranked it up.

454 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:26:31am

Good Morning Lizards!

"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it." -- Mark Twain

Ours does not deserve it right now. (OK, maybe that is a slight understatement)

455 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:26:55am

re: #444 opnion

THe Chicago Tribune reported yesterday that White House "Sources" are saying that Obama really did not snub Gordon Brown. It is just that our leader is exhausted from doing the work of the people. He is being advised to get more rest.
Also , the new Administration is not familiar with the diplomatic protocols.
Wasn't Emanuel in the Clinton Administration?

I'm not buying that bullshit. There are people who do nothing but deal with protocol. Kilgore pointed out yesterday that we pay someone about $52,000.00/year to do nothing but figure out what to give as gifts from the White House.

What he did was DELIBERATE.

456 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:26:58am

re: #432 Erik The Red

I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.

I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.

w00t

Congratulations Erik! So what now?

457 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:27:19am

Gotta' get the day rolling. bbl

458 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:28:01am

re: #432 Erik The Red

I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.

I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.

w00t

FINALLY ,,,,,, LEGAL immigrants coming to Florida !

CONGRATS ,,, WELCOME ,,,

459 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:29:20am

re: #452 Rustler

Grats and Good luck. Now to teach the kids to be americans outside what they learned from Hanna Montana :P.

LOL. Thanks. You should hear my 11 yo. She can really put the accent on. I give her 1 month in a US school and her S African accent will be gone.

460 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:30:03am

re: #458 sattv4u2

FINALLY ,,,,,, LEGAL immigrants coming to Florida !

CONGRATS ,,, WELCOME ,,,

LOL.

461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:32:39am

re: #444 opnion

THe Chicago Tribune reported yesterday that White House "Sources" are saying that Obama really did not snub Gordon Brown. It is just that our leader is exhausted from doing the work of the people. He is being advised to get more rest.
Also , the new Administration is not familiar with the diplomatic protocols.
Wasn't Emanuel in the Clinton Administration?


So we have the first excuse about, "Gee this job is hard?" Was waiting to see the first time that was used an excuse. Under 60 days.

Impressive. They are just going to blow me out of the water with the speed in which they are able to make excuses.

I do not recall (not even once) the Bush White House saying...
"Gosh, we're just so exhausted."

462 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:32:51am

Interesting goings-on in Connecticut., where the state considers a law to force the Catholic Church to organize in a way the State dictates.

And Rangel tells a consitutuent to mind his own business.

463 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:32:53am

re: #456 Ford_Prefect

Congratulations Erik! So what now?

Get over there by June, find a business to buy and buy some cheap realstate.

464 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:33:01am

re: #459 Erik The Red
That's good. Since your kids aren't citizens I assume you married a woman from S.A. otherwise since both Parents were citizens it should have been no issue getting them citizen status?

465 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:33:17am

re: #459 Erik The Red

LOL. Thanks. You should hear my 11 yo. She can really put the accent on. I give her 1 month in a US school and her S African accent will be gone.

She probabbly already has better diction and grammer than most of her future classmates. be VERY careful what school district you locate too

466 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:33:35am

re: #432 Erik The Red

I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.

I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.

w00t

Great news!

467 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:33:39am

re: #455 MandyManners

I'm not buying that bullshit. There are people who do nothing but deal with protocol. Kilgore pointed out yesterday that we pay someone about $52,000.00/year to do nothing but figure out what to give as gifts from the White House.

What he did was DELIBERATE.

Theere is no doubt that it was a deliberate snub.
When he was offered the opportunity to continue the usage of the Winston Churchill portrait, the appropriate answer is thank you, not take it back.

468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:33:49am

re: #444 opnion

Would be kind of funny if Obama began to keep the Bush sleep schedule... Wasn't W in bed by 10 or something?

469 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:34:00am

Protecting your kids doesn't just mean making sure they don't run with scissors.

US Public Schools Teaching Children Pro-Islamic Propaganda

*snippets

Christianity was started by a young Palestinian named Jesus and the 9/11 murderers were not Islamic Fundamentalists but simply a generic "teams of terrorists." That's the caliber of politically corrected crap many of our children are being taught in American public schools -- and it's past time all parents took serious notice.

It calls the Ten Commandments "moral laws Moses claimed to have received from the Hebrew God," while the entry for the Koran contains no such qualifier in saying it is the "Holy Book of Islam containing revelations received by Muhammad from God."

"On the morning of September 11, 2001, teams of terrorists hijacked four airplanes on the East Coast. Passengers challenged the hijackers on one flight, which they crashed on the way to its target. But one plane plunged in to the Pentagon in Virginia, and two others slammed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York. More than 2,500 people were killed in the attacks."

"Jihad is defined as a struggle within each individual to overcome difficulties and strive to please god. Sometimes it may be a physical struggle for protection against enemies," the book reads, noting that Islam teaches "that Muslims should fulfill jihad with the heart, tongue and hand. Muslims use the heart in their struggle to resist evil."

Discuss what they're being taught, and be prepared to teach them the truth. Teach them about Jesus, or Israel, or both. Once they're old enough to understand, teach them about 9/11. Teach them about Sharia and jihad and oppressed women and terrorism and honor killings and barbaric execution methods. Teach them that only just and nurturing cultures deserve to be celebrated, not diversity itself.

What are your kids being taught?

470 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:34:09am

re: #449 MandyManners

The nicotine clears the body in (?) 72 hours but, what's the hard part for me is the mental addiction. I grab my cup of coffee and drink, I reach for a smoke. I sit down at the computer, I reach for a smoke.

The nicotine increases the number of craving receptors so especially after all the nicotine has left your system all those old receptors AND the newer ones all go crazy. Even after 72 hours. It's like the nicotine turns your brain into a frankenstein brain that turns against you. It takes a much longer time to restore a more normal chemistry with the right number of craving receptors. I saw a graphic presentation on this once.

471 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:34:31am

re: #461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So we have the first excuse about, "Gee this job is hard?" Was waiting to see the first time that was used an excuse. Under 60 days.

Impressive. They are just going to blow me out of the water with the speed in which they are able to make excuses.

I do not recall (not even once) the Bush White House saying...
"Gosh, we're just so exhausted."

Neva

472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:35:38am

re: #449 MandyManners

I'll be quitting soon. Smokes are going up a buck a pack in VA. Am not going to pay it.

Just not going to do it.

473 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:36:32am

re: #464 Rustler

That's good. Since your kids aren't citizens I assume you married a woman from S.A. otherwise since both Parents were citizens it should have been no issue getting them citizen status?

Long story. Yes my wife is S African(Portuguese parents). Because I moved here when I was 15 they are not entitled to US Citizenship by birth. They can get it fairly quickly once we are in the US. But still had to get them immigrant visas to start.

All good now :)

474 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:37:25am

re: #461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So we have the first excuse about, "Gee this job is hard?" Was waiting to see the first time that was used an excuse. Under 60 days.

Impressive. They are just going to blow me out of the water with the speed in which they are able to make excuses.

I do not recall (not even once) the Bush White House saying...
"Gosh, we're just so exhausted."

Obama has always been a slacker. His reputation was doing half days in the Illinois Senate.
One of the first things he said after being inaugerated is "I didn't realise that all of the decisions are so big."
He probably has trouble with , "paper or plastic?" He is way out of his depth.

475 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:38:01am
476 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:38:59am

re: #465 sattv4u2

She probabbly already has better diction and grammer than most of her future classmates. be VERY careful what school district you locate too

Looking at Catholic schools in the Seminole County area. They are at an all girls school here and we want to keep things as easy for their transition. We will look at moving them after a year or two.

477 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:39:17am

re: #462 reine.de.tout

Interesting goings-on in Connecticut., where the state considers a law to force the Catholic Church to organize in a way the State dictates.

Un-effing-believable. The people in my state of CT are seriously off the deep end. I will be getting this info out to as many people as I can.

478 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:39:26am

re: #473 Erik The Red Ahh you hadn't achieved your Majority yet either yeah shouldn't be much of a problem tho.

479 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:39:37am

re: #472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'll be quitting soon. Smokes are going up a buck a pack in VA. Am not going to pay it.

Just not going to do it.

I just quit. MA is up to 7.50 (or maybe 8.50 now). I got lucky with the cravings (cold turkey worked) but I have the nagging cough as my lungs heal up.

480 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:39:38am

re: #463 Erik The Red

Get over there by June, find a business to buy and buy some cheap realstate.

Where are you planning on settling?

481 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:39:57am

re: #466 reine.de.tout

Thanks reine :)

482 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:41:15am

Funny took me what 3 months to get an avatar and its changed 4 times in the last 2 or 3 weeks since I got it.

483 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:41:45am

re: #480 Ford_Prefect

Where are you planning on settling?

Central Florida

484 summergurl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:41:59am

re: #461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So we have the first excuse about, "Gee this job is hard?" Was waiting to see the first time that was used an excuse. Under 60 days.

Impressive. They are just going to blow me out of the water with the speed in which they are able to make excuses.

I do not recall (not even once) the Bush White House saying...
"Gosh, we're just so exhausted."


That's because George was not in over his head.

485 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:42:13am

re: #479 Bloodnok

I just quit. MA is up to 7.50 (or maybe 8.50 now). I got lucky with the cravings (cold turkey worked) but I have the nagging cough as my lungs heal up.

Just can't wait for the states to start complaining about the loss in revenue.

One guy left smoking...two packs a day, $10,000,000.00 per pack.

486 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:42:36am

Good Morning Lizards,

I just checked in to read 3 Wood's comments and see what his opinion on the market was for this week. It's going to suck, it's raining in Cape Cod, what a great start for the week.

But at least I know there are like minded folks out there, I'm optimistic we'll get out of this eventually.

JP1101

487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:42:44am

re: #482 Rustler

The one you have is such a keeper.

488 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:43:01am

re: #485 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just can't wait for the states to start complaining about the loss in revenue.

One guy left smoking...two packs a day, $10,000,000.00 per pack.

Christopher Hitchens will certainly keep his state afloat.

489 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:43:58am

re: #467 opnion

Theere is no doubt that it was a deliberate snub.
When he was offered the opportunity to continue the usage of the Winston Churchill portrait, the appropriate answer is thank you, not take it back.

That was a gift to the people of the U.S., not to Obama personally.
He had no right to "give it back".

490 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:44:48am

re: #483 Erik The Red

Central Florida

I was going to suggest CT, we need more conservatives up here, but then I saw Reine's link above. You are smart to stay away from here.

491 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:46:50am

re: #489 reine.de.tout

That was a gift to the people of the U.S., not to Obama personally.
He had no right to "give it back".

Exactly right. These two are vulgarians.

492 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:46:51am

re: #477 Ford_Prefect

Un-effing-believable. The people in my state of CT are seriously off the deep end. I will be getting this info out to as many people as I can.

It is un-effing-believable, isn't it?
Getting the word out would be great!

493 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:49:49am

re: #490 Ford_Prefect

I was going to suggest CT, we need more conservatives up here, but then I saw Reine's link above. You are smart to stay away from here.

I HATE SNOW. Sorry Ford I have to be in warmer climates.

494 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:50:21am

re: #475 DistantThunder

New approaches to quiting smoking based on receptor research.

That is good news!
Zyban made my heart race at a scary pace, and I have an allergy to the patches, which I wore for awhile with great success - until the allergy kicked in big-time and I had huge red welts all over.

495 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:51:09am

re: #490 Ford_Prefect

I was going to suggest CT, we need more conservatives up here, but then I saw Reine's link above. You are smart to stay away from here.

Looking at the last electoral map, we need more "conservatives" LOTS of places. Sorry, but Florida is a key state. I'm glad he and his family are going somewhere like that (or Penn,, Ohio ,,,, swing states with large electoral numbers)

496 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:51:32am

re: #493 Erik The Red

I HATE SNOW. Sorry Ford I have to be in warmer climates.

And your kids should love Florida.

497 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:52:22am

re: #493 Erik The Red

re: #496 reine.de.tout

And your kids should love Florida.

Especially central Fla (Orlando area)

Disney
SeaWorld
Universal Studios
etc etc etc etc etc

498 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:52:52am

Grumble-grumble.

I did not take my vacation days and come to visit my mother in NH to shovel 6 inches of snow! It's amazing how you can come back and instantly feel like you are 14 again. BBL.

499 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:53:51am

re: #487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Which one fluffy or the new get of my lawn one?

500 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:54:33am

re: #497 sattv4u2

re: #496 reine.de.tout

Especially central Fla (Orlando area)

Disney
SeaWorld
Universal Studios
etc etc etc etc etc

Shhhh. don't let them hear you. I have already been wrapped around their fingers. I am in for a season pass the first year we are there.

501 Miss Trixie  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:55:32am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Blustery, with flurries in the valley and that wind from the east chills me right to the bone.

*shiver*

reine

Zyban made my heart race at a scary pace, and I have an allergy to the patches, which I wore for awhile with great success - until the allergy kicked in big-time and I had huge red welts all over.

That happened to a friend of mine only it was caused by guys touching her with ten-foot poles.

:P

502 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:56:02am

re: #492 reine.de.tout

It is un-effing-believable, isn't it?
Getting the word out would be great!

I just posted it on my facebook page. Hopefully my fellow CT friends will pass it along to their friends.

503 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:56:40am

re: #500 Erik The Red
If your close the season passes can save you a lot of cash. Last time I looked at the 3 park season passes they ran about the price of 10 trips to one of the parks and work at Disney, Seaworld and I think it was Universal.

504 Empire1  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:57:12am

re: #432 Erik The Red

YES! Glad to hear it!

505 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:57:27am

re: #493 Erik The Red

I HATE SNOW. Sorry Ford I have to be in warmer climates.

That's fine. Just watch out for those hurricanes. :-)

506 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:57:45am

Good morning, Lizards! Any fruit cup left for a guy who has had 7 hours sleep in two days?

507 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:59:05am

re: #505 Ford_Prefect

That's fine. Just watch out for those hurricanes. :-)

One of the reasons I choose Central Fl. and not the Gulf Coast. I love the Tampa area but not the chance of getting blown away.

508 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:59:22am

re: #504 Empire1

Thanks :)

509 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:59:45am

re: #500 Erik The Red

Shhhh. don't let them hear you. I have already been wrapped around their fingers. I am in for a season pass the first year we are there.

You'll LOVE SeaWorld. If the 'pass' doesn;t include it, fork over the extra $$$ and do a day at Discovery Cove!

510 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:02:36am

re: #499 Rustler

Fluffy. Still appears as "fluffy" to me.

511 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:03:20am

re: #510 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Lol it was for me too til I closed out and came back but if you click fluffy you see the new one.

512 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:03:52am

BTW...had 9 inches of snow last Monday. 80 degrees today.

513 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:04:43am

re: #511 Rustler

I can see "fluffy" without clicking the avatar. That's cool. Plus, it looks so damn real.

514 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:05:01am

This belongs on yesterday's thread but my timing is off.

515 Rustler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:05:03am

re: #503 Rustler
Not seeing the season or year passes with Seaworld and such anymore.

516 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:05:23am

re: #512 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BTW...had 9 inches of snow last Monday. 80 degrees today.

Climate Chaos !
Hide the children !

517 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:05:38am

Good morning y'all - from a pleasant (59 degrees, going up to 80 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

518 yesandno  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:07:20am

This is very scary:

[Link: catholickey.blogspot.com...]

A bill in Connecticut that came out of the Judiciary Comm. that would replace the Catholic Bishop's authority in areas of finance, etc., with selected layman, leaving the Bishop only controling religious matters.

Wow....

Here is the portion of the bill that covers this proposal:

[Link: www.cga.ct.gov...]

519 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:07:28am

Hmmm - what did everyone forget to change their clocks? Hello?

520 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:07:51am

re: #519 realwest

hullo.

521 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:08:17am

Good morning lizards. How is everyone today?

Made the mistake of turning on the news this morning. Nothing good--North Korea is playing war and the DOW set to tank again today. And the kindergartners are in charge. Lovely.

522 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:08:33am

re: #517 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a pleasant (59 degrees, going up to 80 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Morning, Real! How's things?

523 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:08:45am

re: #521 VioletTiger

Let's hope they got some "nappy time" this weekend.

524 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:09:04am

re: #517 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a pleasant (59 degrees, going up to 80 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Morning real. It is 40 degrees and raining here in CT. Other than that, and the usual slow burning rage about what our government, local, state and federal, is doing to us, I am great!

525 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:09:31am

re: #523 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

nappy time

Racist
/

526 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:09:33am

Well for those of you who could use a chuckle (or three or four) here's todays Day by Day cartoon:
[Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]
And I think the private american citizen they're talking about is the 14 year old wunderkind of the Conservative movement!

527 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:10:07am

re: #520 Fat Bastard Vegetarian hello - how are ya doing today?

528 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:10:59am

re: #518 yesandno

Reine posted a link about it just upstream. I live in CT and intend to tell everyone I know about this outrage.

529 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:11:56am

re: #522 Wyatt Earp
Hey howdy Wyatt - things are pretty good hear - other than Obama is still clueless and it's hurting folks all across America more and more with every passing day!
The rest of the world is bitching about him too, but screw them, we gotta put up with him for almost 4 more years.
How are you doing Wyatt?

530 yesandno  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:13:03am

re: #528 Ford_Prefect

Reine posted a link about it just upstream. I live in CT and intend to tell everyone I know about this outrage.

Thanks for the heads up...didn't read the posts prior to posting. Glad someone is on this.....cannot believe things like this are even possible, nevermind happening.

531 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:14:15am

re: #529 realwest

Hey howdy Wyatt - things are pretty good hear - other than Obama is still clueless and it's hurting folks all across America more and more with every passing day!
The rest of the world is bitching about him too, but screw them, we gotta put up with him for almost 4 more years.
How are you doing Wyatt?


Same as always. Waiting for the torches and pitchforks to march on D.C.!

532 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:14:58am

Some snippets from an American Thinker article that posted on Saturday. Sorry if this was already discussed over the weekend.

"The morning conference call and Democrat media manipulation"

"Every morning, a group of old friends have a nice chat. ABC's George Stephanopoulos, CNN's James Carville, CNN commentator Paul Begala, and Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel have a wide ranging conference call, usually starting just before dawn. Democrat Pollster Stan Greenberg is a frequent participant. They examine current events and how they fit into the new administrations policies. They determine how to best get their message to the public."

"When they next appear on various programs as interviewers or interviewees, their comments do not conflict with each other. They have coordinated the broad themes and the topics, and after that early morning phone call they coordinate with their personal networks and associates, influencing and coaxing the comment and reportage on specific issues nationwide."

"From an information consumer's standpoint it is disturbing that several main networks are so tuned into White House message shaping. How can the citizen expect accurate analysis and reportage when the "journalists" that present it are so tied into the party in power?"

533 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:16:02am

re: #528 Ford_Prefect

Reine posted a link about it just upstream. I live in CT and intend to tell everyone I know about this outrage.

More Nutmeg state nuttery: Lieberman praises Obama. I think I want my handshake back.

534 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:16:46am

re: #518 yesandno
For what it's worth, that HAS to be unconstitutional.

535 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:18:45am

re: #531 Wyatt Earp Uh, would it be okay if I sorta RODE instead of marched? I mean, I ain't as strong as I used to be with these meds and all - but I could sure stand up and swing a wild torch and stick a pitchfork into some folks who need to be stuck! LOL!

536 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:20:42am

re: #534 realwest

For what it's worth, that HAS to be unconstitutional.

Just make it even across the board, same rules for every mosque and storefront inner city community action church with a government funded shakedown community organizer and housing operation on the side. See how long that idea would last.

537 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:20:57am

re: #535 realwest

Uh, would it be okay if I sorta RODE instead of marched? I mean, I ain't as strong as I used to be with these meds and all - but I could sure stand up and swing a wild torch and stick a pitchfork into some folks who need to be stuck! LOL!

Maybe we can do a Haunted Hayride setup?

538 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:20:59am

re: #533 lifeofthemind

More Nutmeg state nuttery: Lieberman praises Obama. I think I want my handshake back.

You know, there are times when I like Lieberman, but then he always goes and does something like this and I lose all respect for him. When he allied himself with Al Gore he really alienated a lot of people. Then he supported the war on terror and my respect went up. Now it is back down.

539 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:21:27am

re: #521 VioletTiger

Good morning lizards. How is everyone today?

Made the mistake of turning on the news this morning. Nothing good--North Korea is playing war and the DOW set to tank again today. And the kindergartners are in charge. Lovely.

Is martial law in Mexico still in place?

540 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:21:44am

re: #536 lifeofthemind

Just make it even across the board, same rules for every mosque and storefront inner city community action church with a government funded shakedown community organizer and housing operation on the side. See how long that idea would last.

And have Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson give up their empires ?! NEVAH GONNA HAPPEN !

541 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:22:10am

re: #533 lifeofthemind
Morning to you! I read that same article and still don't understand it; Lieberman is a lot of things, but a STUPID politician isn't one of 'em. He's not up for re-election and he comes out playing nice with a guy who - with less than two full months in office under his belt - is already starting to look like the worst President we've ever had. I don't understand Lieberman at all. And I understand the folks in New England even less!

542 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:23:50am

re: #534 realwest

For what it's worth, that HAS to be unconstitutional.

[Amendment I]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I would say so.

543 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:23:52am

re: #536 lifeofthemind

Just make it even across the board, same rules for every mosque and storefront inner city community action church with a government funded shakedown community organizer and housing operation on the side. See how long that idea would last.

okay, I get where you're coming from on this . . . but please tell me you don't really equate the Catholic Church with every mosque and storefront inner-city community action church!

544 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:24:08am

re: #537 Wyatt Earp
Well, actually, I was thinking more of a Ferrari or something, but long as I get there in time to light the first torch and/or jab the first pitchfork, however I get there's ok by me!

545 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:24:27am

re: #532 Ford_Prefect

Unbelievable. This doesn't even sound like it could happen in the USA. It sounds like Cuba or Venezuela. Controlling the press is the first step to controlling the people.

546 Beach Lover  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:16am

re: #532 Ford_Prefect
We can only hope that someone that has guts on the Republican side will finally quit worrying about their own skin and show some anger about what this administration is doing to our nation. Rush can only do so much....he is mostly preaching to the choir. We need someone in office to show some outrage. Maybe the MSM would show it if for no other reason than their desire for ratings. We need to play them at their own game.

547 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:36am

re: #532 Ford_Prefect

Wow.
That's just as scary as the other thing.

548 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:42am

re: #541 realwest

Morning to you! I read that same article and still don't understand it; Lieberman is a lot of things, but a STUPID politician isn't one of 'em. He's not up for re-election and he comes out playing nice with a guy who - with less than two full months in office under his belt - is already starting to look like the worst President we've ever had. I don't understand Lieberman at all. And I understand the folks in New England even less!

What's to understand? He a ho.

549 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:50am

re: #542 Ford_Prefect
Good morning Ford - yeah, just some stupid state legislators politicking again. I always thought that most of the nuts were in California - goes to show how little I know!

550 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:26:11am

re: #527 realwest

Did you enjoy the nice weather this weekend? The beach was beautiful yesterday. Some guy made a little snowman and put it next to his kid's sandcastle. It was about 75F.

551 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:26:14am
552 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:26:33am

re: #518 yesandno

This is very scary:

[Link: catholickey.blogspot.com...]

A bill in Connecticut that came out of the Judiciary Comm. that would replace the Catholic Bishop's authority in areas of finance, etc., with selected layman, leaving the Bishop only controling religious matters.

Wow....

Here is the portion of the bill that covers this proposal:

[Link: www.cga.ct.gov...]

It's no surprise that the idea was started by "Voice of the Faithful", a group of moonbatty Catholics who are trying to tear down the Church.

553 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:26:33am

re: #541 realwest

Morning to you! I read that same article and still don't understand it; Lieberman is a lot of things, but a STUPID politician isn't one of 'em. He's not up for re-election and he comes out playing nice with a guy who - with less than two full months in office under his belt - is already starting to look like the worst President we've ever had. I don't understand Lieberman at all. And I understand the folks in New England even less!

Joe reminds me of what a girl said about her first husband, he never disappointed in that he always disappointed. There should be an opening for a real Republican, internationalist, anti-terror, anti-kleptocrat, to run and even get in if the Democrats split again. Last time they ran another milquetoast Willkie and went nowhere.

554 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:26:57am

Joke of the day:

from AP:

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama is ending former President George W. Bush's limits on using federal dollars for embryonic stem cell research, with advisers calling the move a clear signal that science — not political ideology — will guide the administration.

OH REALLY Mr. Obama. Could you please explain the science behind raising taxes during a recession and the effects on the economy? I remember your arguement was "raising taxes would be more FAIR" even though it was pointed out to you that doing so would DECREASE revenues to the government. This is science Mr. Obama, but you choose to ignore this fact because of your political ideology.

Another day, another lie.

Good morning lizards!

555 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:27:16am

re: #536 lifeofthemind

Just make it even across the board, same rules for every mosque and storefront inner city community action church with a government funded shakedown community organizer and housing operation on the side. See how long that idea would last.

The government has no business telling any religious organization how to organize itself or who should be in charge. That is a blatant violation of their rights. Making it the same for everyone does not lessen the violation.

556 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:27:45am

re: #534 realwest

For what it's worth, that HAS to be unconstitutional.

It's definitely an infringement on religious liberty.

557 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:29:10am

re: #555 Ford_Prefect

Oh grief, I'm out of here

558 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:29:31am

re: #532 Ford_Prefect Hey Ford, for what it's worth I recommended that comment of yours to Charles in hopes he'll make a thread out of it.
Maybe if enough of us do that, he'll get the idea (I'm using IE7 so can only report, not recommend!).

559 tfc3rid  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:29:42am

To the Norks...

Wanna play Russian Roulette? Let's play...

Am I the only one who wants the US to try and shoot down whatever they launch?

560 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:29:47am

re: #554 bellamags

Joke of the day:

from AP:


OH REALLY Mr. Obama. Could you please explain the science behind raising taxes during a recession and the effects on the economy? I remember your arguement was "raising taxes would be more FAIR" even though it was pointed out to you that doing so would DECREASE revenues to the government. This is science Mr. Obama, but you choose to ignore this fact because of your political ideology.

Another day, another lie.

Good morning lizards!

As Bill Bennett said this morning, they have been doing the research for a while, and the fact that private industry hasn't begun sponsoring it shows that the results have not bene forthcoming. Strangely enough, better results have been achieved with adult stem cells!

561 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:30:21am

re: #518 yesandno

re: #534 realwest

re: #556 Ward Cleaver

I'd get a state legislator to write an amendment to the bill stating that any gov't expenditures must pass thru the Bishop in Connecticuts office 1st

562 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:30:44am

re: #554 bellamags

Morning bella. You are fired up this AM.

563 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:30:48am

re: #554 bellamags


Good morning Bellamags.

The problem is that liberalism isn't a science, it is a psychosis. And they want to make us all as crazy as they are.

564 yesandno  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:31:06am

re: #546 Beach Lover

We can only hope that someone that has guts on the Republican side will finally quit worrying about their own skin and show some anger about what this administration is doing to our nation. Rush can only do so much....he is mostly preaching to the choir. We need someone in office to show some outrage. Maybe the MSM would show it if for no other reason than their desire for ratings. We need to play them at their own game.

There are some out there...but have been tainted by the dems so bad they no longer are in office. But they are still speaking out.....Santorum and Allen come to mind.

Problem is, people don't like the truth when the truth doesn't "feel" good.

565 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:31:23am

One of the network affiliates in Chicago (can't remember which one)
reported that last weekend Michelle Obama needed to relieve the stress of the White House.
She went back to Chicago to have lunch with her BFF's. Barry insisted that she take The Airforce One, not some lesser jet.
So see, how could she have tea with Britains First Lady?

566 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:31:45am

re: #560 Wyatt Earp

As Bill Bennett said this morning, they have been doing the research for a while, and the fact that private industry hasn't begun sponsoring it shows that the results have not bene forthcoming. Strangely enough, better results have been achieved with adult stem cells!

I really don't know enough to have a valid opinion on stem cell research, but my problem is with his reasons. He is pandering to the far left and lying about it.

567 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:20am

re: #559 tfc3rid

To the Norks...

Wanna play Russian Roulette? Let's play...

Am I the only one who wants the US to try and shoot down whatever they launch?

Yeah, if adults were in charge. The kiddies we have in charge don't have the gonads.

568 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:26am

re: #558 realwest

Hey Ford, for what it's worth I recommended that comment of yours to Charles in hopes he'll make a thread out of it.
Maybe if enough of us do that, he'll get the idea (I'm using IE7 so can only report, not recommend!).

Thanks. How do you recommend, anyway? Never done it.

569 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:41am

re: #562 Ford_Prefect

Morning bella. You are fired up this AM.

YES. after reading your comment earlier regarding the brainwashing by the media.

I HAVE THE DAY OFF and I don't know what to do with myself.

570 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:55am

re: #548 Spare O'Lake Well of course he's a ho - he's a politician, but why back Obama NOW? What's Obama gonna do for Joe?
Ho or no ho, there's gotta be payment made for services rendered, ya know?

571 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:33:21am

re: #563 VioletTiger

Good morning Bellamags.

The problem is that liberalism isn't a science, it is a psychosis. And they want to make us all as crazy stoopid as they are.

LOL fixed it. ; )

572 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:34:10am

re: #561 sattv4u2

re: #534 realwest

re: #556 Ward Cleaver

I'd get a state legislator to write an amendment to the bill stating that any gov't expenditures must pass thru the Bishop in Connecticuts office 1st

lol.

573 yesandno  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:34:37am

re: #565 opnion

One of the network affiliates in Chicago (can't remember which one)
reported that last weekend Michelle Obama needed to relieve the stress of the White House.
She went back to Chicago to have lunch with her BFF's. Barry insisted that she take The Airforce One, not some lesser jet.
So see, how could she have tea with Britains First Lady?


A HUGE carbon butt print.

574 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:03am

re: #550 VioletTiger
Good morning back t o you VioletTiger! Yes I did have a nice weekend, though I don't know where you'd have to be to have a snowman and a sand castle peacefully co-existing!

575 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:14am

re: #572 Ford_Prefect

can you tell me what your avatar is?

576 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:31am

Mornin' all from a damn chilly, 26 degrees, Pacific Northwest. We had a inch of snow Sat. night.

577 Beach Lover  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:39am

re: #565 opnion
Are you kidding me?! I had not heard this before. These people are more like the "Jefferson's" everyday.

578 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:52am

re: #566 bellamags

I really don't know enough to have a valid opinion on stem cell research, but my problem is with his reasons. He is pandering to the far left and lying about it.


Well, he has to go with his strengths!

:)

579 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:01am

re: #539 Leonidas Hoplite

Is martial law in Mexico still in place?


The body count is going up and they are expecting it to spread North into the US. Has someone sent the memo to Janet?

580 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:21am

re: #565 opnion

One of the network affiliates in Chicago (can't remember which one)
reported that last weekend Michelle Obama needed to relieve the stress of the White House.
She went back to Chicago to have lunch with her BFF's. Barry insisted that she take The Airforce One, not some lesser jet.
So see, how could she have tea with Britains First Lady?

She is simply a despicable person. Obama deserves her.

581 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:59am

re: #580 Wyatt Earp

She is simply a despicable person. Obama deserves her.

But we don't.

582 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:59am

re: #574 realwest

Good morning back t o you VioletTiger! Yes I did have a nice weekend, though I don't know where you'd have to be to have a snowman and a sand castle peacefully co-existing!

The Jersey shoer, of course. There was 12 inches of snow on Monday, and sandcastles on Saturday.

583 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:37:17am

re: #579 VioletTiger


She got that memo. She burns it in the fireplace to warm our white house. The one you could grow orchids in.

584 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:37:32am

re: #578 Wyatt Earp

Well, he has to go with his strengths!

:)

Wyatt - you are sparklingly optimistic this morning. : )

585 Beach Lover  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:38:04am

re: #579 VioletTiger

didn't you hear? Janet says it isn't a problem.
/

586 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:38:24am

re: #582 VioletTiger

The Jersey shoer, of course. There was 12 inches of snow on Monday, and sandcastles on Saturday.

Here in lovely Central Mass, it was in the 60's yesterday and today we get 3-5 inches of snow followed by sleet and freezing rain.

587 schnapp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:39:03am

re: #574 realwest
Why in Hopey Changey Land of course!

588 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:39:13am

re: #570 realwest

Well of course he's a ho - he's a politician, but why back Obama NOW? What's Obama gonna do for Joe?
Ho or no ho, there's gotta be payment made for services rendered, ya know?

Go figure the deal those two whores would make.
Probably a slab of pork and a third round draft pick.

589 summergurl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:40:02am

re: #565 opnion

One of the network affiliates in Chicago (can't remember which one)
reported that last weekend Michelle Obama needed to relieve the stress of the White House.
She went back to Chicago to have lunch with her BFF's. Barry insisted that she take The Airforce One, not some lesser jet.
So see, how could she have tea with Britains First Lady?

THE STRESS?

I have no issue with her using Air Force 1, she is the First Lady after all.... but she thinks she is stressed?

Maybe they really have to DO SOMETHING this time - not just show up and expect to be given preferential treatment.

590 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:40:04am

re: #560 Wyatt Earp

As Bill Bennett said this morning, they have been doing the research for a while, and the fact that private industry hasn't begun sponsoring it shows that the results have not bene forthcoming. Strangely enough, better results have been achieved with adult stem cells!


This is poltically motivated to suuport Roe V Wade.
When BHO was the only Illinois State Senator to support denying medical care to the survivor of a botched abortion (infanticide), he said that it was to protect Roe V Wade.

591 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:40:41am
592 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:40:43am

re: #585 Beach Lover

didn't you hear? Janet says it isn't a problem.
/

Geez, there are more drug cartel soldiers than Mexican soldiers. I think it is a big problem. Once again, kiddies are running the place.

593 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:41:24am

re: #590 opnion

This is poltically motivated to suuport Roe V Wade.
When BHO was the only Illinois State Senator to support denying medical care to the survivor of a botched abortion (infanticide), he said that it was to protect Roe V Wade.

And to protect his own arse with his lunatic fringe base.

594 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:41:56am

re: #551 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - how are you doing today? Well, I hope.
The problem is everyone - well, ok, not everyone but a lot of people are talking about who's leading (or not leading, as the case may be) the GOP - the reality is I'd rather have NO ONE leading the GOP RIGHT NOW than have either Obama, Pelosi or Reid leading the party.
Seriously, we can wait a few months to develop new(er) national leadership for the GOP and just let the Democrats continually machine gun their own feet for a while!
BTW - if you saw that Day By Day cartoon I posted upthread at #526 and wonder who the cartoonist sees as the next "Joe The Plumber" put your money on that 14 year old kid - he's smart, and unafraid (so far) to enunciate pretty straightforward Conservative principles and was on Fox and Friends this morning, frying Obama's ass real well!

595 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:42:16am

re: #565 opnion

One of the network affiliates in Chicago (can't remember which one)
reported that last weekend Michelle Obama needed to relieve the stress of the White House.
She went back to Chicago to have lunch with her BFF's. Barry insisted that she take The Airforce One, not some lesser jet.
So see, how could she have tea with Britains First Lady?

Queen Michelle.

/let them eat arugula

596 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:42:50am

Good morning folks...

A theme song for the Age of the Obama:

597 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:43:14am

re: #554 bellamags
Hey, good morning bellamags! How are you doing today?

598 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:43:36am
599 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:45:12am

re: #590 opnion

This is poltically motivated to suuport Roe V Wade.
When BHO was the only Illinois State Senator to support denying medical care to the survivor of a botched abortion (infanticide), he said that it was to protect Roe V Wade.

What is he afraid of a John Connor coming along? How is a botched abortion going to reinstitute State's rights superceding the Federal Government?

600 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:45:14am

re: #559 tfc3rid
Good morning to you my friend! I don't want us to try, I want us to knock that sucker outta the sky - just blow it to shreds which, the good Lord willing and the creek don't rise, will fall on the White House lawn!

601 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:45:17am

re: #560 Wyatt Earp

As Bill Bennett said this morning, they have been doing the research for a while, and the fact that private industry hasn't begun sponsoring it shows that the results have not bene forthcoming. Strangely enough, better results have been achieved with adult stem cells!

I was reading recently about some cases (in England maybe?) where patients had been treated for some ailment with embryonic stem cells, and had developed brain tumors after the stem cell treatment. The successes have all come from adult stem cells; the embryonic argument is about protecting "the right to abortion".

602 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:45:26am

re: #573 yesandno

A HUGE carbon butt print.

She came back to Bootay bump with Oprah. Tremors rocked the Chicago area!

603 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:46:16am

re: #601 Ward Cleaver

I was reading recently about some cases (in England maybe?) where patients had been treated for some ailment with embryonic stem cells, and had developed brain tumors after the stem cell treatment. The successes have all come from adult stem cells; the embryonic argument is about protecting "the right to abortion".

I don't remember seeing that right in the Constitution. Not that the Democrats give a whit about the Constitution.

604 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:46:29am

re: #602 opnion

She came back to Bootay bump with Oprah. Tremors rocked the Chicago areaentire nation!


FTFY

605 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:46:56am

The country is becoming more secular, yet another reason that the religious right may be losing influence.

Religion poll.

606 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:47:01am

re: #575 bellamags

can you tell me what your avatar is?

See if this works. The self Obsessed one in all his glory.

607 abolitionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:47:54am

re: #467 opnion

Theere is no doubt that it was a deliberate snub.
When he was offered the opportunity to continue the usage of the Winston Churchill portrait, the appropriate answer is thank you, not take it back.

It was a sculpture, a bust. [Link: www.flickr.com...]

608 yesandno  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:10am

re: #602 opnion

She came back to Bootay bump with Oprah. Tremors rocked the Chicago area!

The great midwest divide!

609 dsun  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:41am

Galloway is one of the most nefarious and despicable hack i've ever heard of, remember this guy profited from Saddam oil money.

610 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:46am

re: #597 realwest

Hey, good morning bellamags! How are you doing today?

I'm doing good RW. Nice outside, sitting with the back doors open with my coffee on LGF. Can't get much better. How are YOU?

611 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:48am

re: #589 summergurl

THE STRESS?

I have no issue with her using Air Force 1, she is the First Lady after all.... but she thinks she is stressed?

Maybe they really have to DO SOMETHING this time - not just show up and expect to be given preferential treatment.

Neither one of them has actually been tested before. Barry is coked up & a poor student in High School. Michelle writes a poor SAT, but no problem both went off to the Ivy League.
Both have reputations for being lazy. This is a mess.

612 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:54am

re: #564 yesandno
Not to harp on this, but it's really difficult for any Republican to get out past the MSM filters and get a message through to the American People. This next "American Revolution" will very likely be a ground up one, not with some politician heading the charge.
Indeed the 14 year old boy, who's name now escapes me but I've mentioned to Iron Fist and others said that "Rush isn't the head of the GOP, Michael Steele is and HE knows that; once other Republicans accept that fact, things will get HOT for President Obama."

613 Beach Lover  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:49:09am

ya know, I 've been pondering this but didn't want to say it for the obvious reasons. But, even though I am a conservative, I "hoped" that with the one's election that at least he might address the black community and what they could do to improve their lives.... stay in school, work hard so you can appreciate what you have earned, GET MARRIED before having children. All the things that could really improve their lives for generations. Such a waste.....and I guess the truth is, he doesn't believe in those things or he would. I know why he didn't do it before the election, but the path he is on, he has shown his true feelings on the plight of the lower class and of the AA community.

614 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:49:33am

re: #606 Ford_Prefect

See if this works. The self Obsessed one in all his glory.

OH wow. cool.

615 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:49:38am

re: #604 soxfan4life

FTFY

Ya felt in back East too, huh?

616 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:50:09am

re: #568 Ford_Prefect
Just click on the exclamation point next to your #532 and you'll get prompts from there!

617 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:50:44am

re: #615 opnion

Ya felt in back East too, huh?

I'm thinking we should warn Indonesia about the resulting tsunami.

618 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:50:49am

re: #607 abolitionist

It was a sculpture, a bust. [Link: www.flickr.com...]


Thanks, I stand corrected, but the principal is the same.

619 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:51:37am

re: #617 soxfan4life

I'm thinking we should warn Indonesia about the resulting tsunami.

It would be Bush's fault somehow.

620 yesandno  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:52:12am

re: #589 summergurl

THE STRESS?

I have no issue with her using Air Force 1, she is the First Lady after all.... but she thinks she is stressed?

Maybe they really have to DO SOMETHING this time - not just show up and expect to be given preferential treatment.

Well I have a problem with it...for unofficial business. She could have borrowed Nancy's private jet........

Still, wouldn't be AirForce 1 if the Pres isn't on it.

621 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:52:15am

re: #616 realwest

Just click on the exclamation point next to your #532 and you'll get prompts from there!

Cool. Thanks.

622 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:10am

re: #619 opnion

It would be Bush's fault somehow.

Well that goes without saying. Although something like a tsunami is more Cheney's thing, ya know.

623 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:41am

re: #609 dsun

Galloway is one of the most nefarious and despicable hack i've ever heard of, remember this guy profited from Saddam oil money.

No only that, he set up a bogus charity to raise money to pay for medical services of a sick Arab girl, the Mariam Fund, and ran his Oil For Food payoffs through it.

624 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:41am

re: #596 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth! How are you doing this morning?

625 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:54:01am

re: #620 yesandno

Well I have a problem with it...for unofficial business. She could have borrowed Nancy's private jet........

Still, wouldn't be AirForce 1 if the Pres isn't on it.

That's a hell of a carbon footprint for lunch.

Cheaper to have the BFFs fly commercial to DC for lunch, I would wager.

626 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:54:01am

re: #622 soxfan4life

Well that goes without saying. Although something like a tsunami is more Cheney's thing, ya know.

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

///

627 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:55:11am

re: #624 realwest

Hey real! No bad thanks. Not amused to see the wet snow & slush coming down this morning. I am sooo over this winter crap by now. How're you doing?

628 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:55:38am

re: #622 soxfan4life

Well that goes without saying. Although something like a tsunami is more Cheney's thing, ya know.

Yes, Bush lacks the imagination for disasters more complicated than hurricanes. And, AFAIK, he does not hate Indonesians. In fact, as a child, he was SOOOOOO stupid he played Cowboys and Indonesians all the time, until Barbara took his little football suit away.

/////////////////////////

629 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:55:39am

Galloway stoned in Egypt......Good hash George?

630 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:55:40am
631 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:55:58am

re: #609 dsun Um, I agree with you but think you meant to post that on the prior thread!

632 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:56:35am

re: #630 Iron Fist

You've not read the Penumbra to the Constitution. According to the Democrats, all the real rights are defined in the Penumbra, right after the section on how the Second Amendment doesn't really mean what it says. The Penumbra is the most improtant section og the Constitution. That is why it is kept hidden, and only shown to Great Leaders or Dear Leaders of the United Socialist States of AmeriKKKa.

Now, see? I didn't know that. I'll vote Democrat from now on!

/

633 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:56:39am

Happy Birthday, Chuck Norris!

Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.

When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.

There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

Outer space exists because it's afraid to be on the same planet with Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris does not sleep. He waits.

Chuck Norris is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs.

Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding.

Chuck Norris counted to infinity--twice.

There is no chin behind Chuck Norris’ beard. There is only another fist.

When Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.

Chuck Norris is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.

Chuck Norris’ hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush.

Chuck Norris can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.

Chuck Norris doesn’t wear a watch, HE decides what time it is.

Chuck Norris can slam a revolving door.

Chuck Norris does not get frostbite. Chuck Norris bites frost

Remember the Soviet Union? They decided to quit after watching a DeltaForce marathon on Satellite TV.

Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.

634 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:57:54am

re: #610 bellamags
I'm doing ok - thankew, got the damn landscape crew here at the apartment complex and while they do wonderful work I REALLY don't need to be awoken by about 10 freakin' ride around lawn mowers at 8:00AM!

635 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:12am

BBIAM - gotta refill the coffee!

636 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:28am

re: #633 MandyManners

Chuck Norris is so tough that underneath his beard there is no chin ... only another fist.

/Family Guy

637 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:28am

re: #633 MandyManners
You might be a redneck if....An episode of Walker Texas Ranger, changed your life. Jeff Foxworthy.

638 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:39am

re: #633 MandyManners

Happy Birthday, Chuck Norris!

Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.

When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.

There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

Outer space exists because it's afraid to be on the same planet with Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris does not sleep. He waits.

Chuck Norris is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs.

Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding.

Chuck Norris counted to infinity--twice.

There is no chin behind Chuck Norris’ beard. There is only another fist.

When Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.

Chuck Norris is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.

Chuck Norris’ hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush.

Chuck Norris can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.

Chuck Norris doesn’t wear a watch, HE decides what time it is.

Chuck Norris can slam a revolving door.

Chuck Norris does not get frostbite. Chuck Norris bites frost

Remember the Soviet Union? They decided to quit after watching a DeltaForce marathon on Satellite TV.

Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.

When someone says nobody is perfect, Chuck Norris takes that as a personal insult.

639 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:42am

re: #618 opnion

Thanks, I stand corrected, but the principal is the same.

The bust is a non isue in my opinion. It was loaned to GW because he was a fan. Obama preferred a bust of Lincoln in the oval office and returned the loaned, historic bust to the British. Had he have put it in a crate in the basement, that would have been a snub.

640 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:47am

re: #625 OldLineTexan

That's a hell of a carbon footprint for lunch.

Cheaper to have the BFFs fly commercial to DC for lunch, I would wager.

They've got that whole Kofi Annan holier than though attitude.
Maybe they're related. They act like they're King and Queen of the UN instead of the US.

641 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:59:04am

Morning all.
One week ago today I was struggling to limp home in the aftermath of a snowstorm. Today I sat on the patio in t-shirt and shorts to enjoy my morning paper. Thank you, Al Gore.
The U.S. whupped up on Hugo's Heroes last night, by the way.

642 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:00:18am

re: #633 MandyManners

Fact: Every time you watch Delta Force, a terrorist dies.

Chuck Norris's tears can cure every known disease. Too bad he's never cried.

643 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:01:00am

re: #634 realwest

I'm doing ok - thankew, got the damn landscape crew here at the apartment complex and while they do wonderful work I REALLY don't need to be awoken by about 10 freakin' ride around lawn mowers at 8:00AM!

LOL. I understand completely. I was doing a massage therapy session on a patient one day and the landscaping crew thought it would be a good time to take the LEAF BLOWER to the sidewalk right outside of my room. I had to give her a free hour session because of all the racket.

644 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:01:01am
645 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:02:18am

re: #644 Ford_Prefect

Ford, is this you?

646 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:02:41am

re: #627 Kenneth
Well I'm sitting here with plenty of sunshine out my window with a high temp today expected to be 80 degrees, got my second cup of coffee and am chatting with my friends out here! Life is good!

647 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:02:45am

Good morning.

Will it be possible to get rid of Obama in 4 years with all the duplicate voting?

648 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:03:03am

re: #644 Ford_Prefect

Honk if you are paying my mortgage

I extinguished my second six years ago by refinancing. By myself. Oh, and I'm still paying my bills.

I feel like the last mule on the Borax team.

649 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:03:20am

re: #622 soxfan4life

Well that goes without saying. Although something like a tsunami is more Cheney's thing, ya know.

I thought that was Rove & Cheney did the levee's in New Orleans.

650 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:03:35am

re: #629 pingjockey
Good morning ping! Uh, prior thread is where you want to post that sucker! LOL!
How are you today?

651 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:03:42am

re: #647 FrogMarch

Good morning.

Will it be possible to get rid of Obama in 4 years with all the duplicate voting?

I wish. Sadly, I think we'll be stuck with this tool for 8 very long years.

652 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:03:44am

Good morning. How do you do. Pleased to meet you.

653 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:00am

re: #634 realwest

I'm doing ok - thankew, got the damn landscape crew here at the apartment complex and while they do wonderful work I REALLY don't need to be awoken by about 10 freakin' ride around lawn mowers at 8:00AM!

Sorry, real. Since I wake up at 4:30 every day I can't scrounge up too much sympathy. :-)

654 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:01am

re: #649 opnion

I thought that was Rove & Cheney did the levee's in New Orleans.

That's what they want you to think.

/

655 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:25am

re: #645 bellamags

Ford, is this you?

No.

656 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:37am

G'day again

As we're not a baseball nation, the fact that Aussies were in
this hasn't been front page sports news, so it was rather good to see that the Aussies beat Mexico at the World Baseball Classic

Go the Aussies :-)

657 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:39am

re: #639 avanti

The bust is a non isue in my opinion. It was loaned to GW because he was a fan. Obama preferred a bust of Lincoln in the oval office and returned the loaned, historic bust to the British. Had he have put it in a crate in the basement, that would have been a snub.

He has a bust of a Republican in the Oval Office!

658 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:05:34am

re: #646 realwest
Good for you! 'Ol man winter doesn't want to leave here yet. High for the next 2-3 days only 35. Low to the teens. Supposed to be a balmy 50 by Friday. I'll believe when it happens. BTW, the record high for today was 67 in 1963, the record low was 15 in 1973. Here in the Greater Wenatchee Valley area.

659 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:05am

re: #630 Iron Fist
Hello again my brother! Don't know if you saw my comment to you from a couple of days ago, but Rasmussen's daily poll of LIKELY Voters showed OVER 75% of them believe individual Americans have full rights to own firearms. Surprisingly, even a majority of Democrats believe that (61% iirc) and more importantly 75% of independents feel the same way!

660 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:09am

re: #649 opnion

I thought that was Rove & Cheney did the levee's in New Orleans.

What they don't want you to know is Rove and Cheney put Nagin and Blanco in place to show us how capable Democrats are.//

661 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:18am

re: #657 MandyManners

He has a bust of a Republican in the Oval Office!

Since the Big O has been inaugurated, Lincoln has been posthumously made a Democrat.

662 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:25am

re: #639 avanti

The bust is a non isue in my opinion. It was loaned to GW because he was a fan. Obama preferred a bust of Lincoln in the oval office and returned the loaned, historic bust to the British. Had he have put it in a crate in the basement, that would have been a snub.

Good morning Avanti. Let's agree to disagree. It was as much a loan to the American people as anything.
During that entire visit by PM Brown, the Obamas just proved what pampered disresectful people that they are. Embarassing!

663 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:34am
664 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:52am

re: #652 Occasional Reader

Good morning. How do you do. Pleased to meet you.

I see those etiquette classes are working for you :-)

665 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:07:07am

C Rangle answers to the people

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

666 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:07:12am

re: #648 OldLineTexan

I extinguished my second six years ago by refinancing. By myself. Oh, and I'm still paying my bills.

I feel like the last mule on the Borax team.

Boy are you stoopid. If you had just waited for the Obama Socialist Revolution you could have saved an awful lot of money ...

that Obama would now be able to take from you to give to other people...

on second thought, maybe you aren't so stoopid.

667 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:08:16am

re: #650 realwest
Nah, the headline cracked me up!

668 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:08:55am

re: #652 Occasional Reader

Good morning. How do you do. Pleased to meet you.

Hope you guess my name.

669 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:09:15am

re: #663 Occasional Reader

Hugo Chavez: I will "step on the gas" and accelerate the revolution.

I don't read Spanish ,so I won't pretend to know what was written, but you have to believe Chavez would have been swatted like a fly if Reagan or Bush 1 was President.

670 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:10:00am

re: #661 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Since the Big O has been inaugurated, Lincoln has been posthumously made a Democrat.

He's spinning in the grave so rapildly that he could generate the power to light up Chicago.

671 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:04am

re: #666 Ford_Prefect

eeek. I got the devils comment number. I am not a superstitious person, but those numbers always creeped my out. The town I live has those numbers as the first three in their phone numbers for a lot of people. Fortunately we are not one or I would have to move.

672 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:29am

re: #657 MandyManners

He has a bust of a Republican in the Oval Office!

Yep, the thought occurred to me of the fuss that would be made if the reverse happened. Had he have replaced a Lincoln bust with one of a foreign leader in the oval office, we'd be pissed about that. Thank goodness it was not a loaned Reagan bust leaving the oval office or Rush's head would have exploded. :)

673 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:35am

re: #670 MandyManners

He's spinning in the grave so rapildly that he could generate the power to light up Chicago.

Oh, he was a Republican. Watch this:

674 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:50am

re: #661 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Since the Big O has been inaugurated, Lincoln has been posthumously made a Democrat.

It's a Chicago tradition.

675 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:50am

new VDH...this gut is writing his ass off these days...don't recall him ever being this prolific....

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

676 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:54am

re: #641 Lincolntf
Good morning! Uh "The U.S. whupped up on Hugo's Heroes last night" to what are you referring?

677 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:12:50am

re: #666 Ford_Prefect

Boy are you stoopid. If you had just waited for the Obama Socialist Revolution you could have saved an awful lot of money ...

that Obama would now be able to take from you to give to other people...

on second thought, maybe you aren't so stoopid.

I waited all day Saturday for that lazy bastidge to fill my car's gas tank. He never did show up.

/

678 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:12:52am

re: #671 Ford_Prefect

That must make for some interesting phone numbers.

"Call 666-HELL for Little Bo Peep Daycare..."

679 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:12:55am

Had to run to Wal-hell....

Back and sassy!

680 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:02am

re: #668 MandyManners

Hope you guess my name.

just for me?....heh...My anthem

681 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:04am

re: #676 realwest

Good morning! Uh "The U.S. whupped up on Hugo's Heroes last night" to what are you referring?

World Baseball Classic

682 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:04am

Why isn't it surprising that after the Obama and Brown regime's overtures to Syria, Iran, Hizballah and Hamas, these states/groups have united in their vocal support of the Sudanese President against his war crimes trial?

Why does a son of a Kenyan not care when Arabs are exterminating Black Christian Africans and settling on their land?

683 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:38am

re: #681 soxfan4life

Yup.

684 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:45am

Later Lizards. Going home. See you all later.

685 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:48am

re: #680 albusteve

Wait a damn minute! You like the Stones but hate David Bowie?

The older Mick Jagger gets, the more he looks like Don Knotts.

686 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:08am

But don't you dare question their patriotism.

The only difference between the democrats and a bag of horse manure, is the bag.

687 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:17am

re: #643 bellamags
"I had to give her a free hour session because of all the racket."
You mean she didn't find the sound of the leaf blower to be.......soothing?! LOL!
They always wait for Mom and me to eat lunch or dinner before they start leafblowing our porch. Pains in the ass. Though as I said, they do good work even if they all probably are illegal aliens undocumented workers!

688 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:32am

re: #658 pingjockey

Good for you! 'Ol man winter doesn't want to leave here yet. High for the next 2-3 days only 35. Low to the teens. Supposed to be a balmy 50 by Friday. I'll believe when it happens. BTW, the record high for today was 67 in 1963, the record low was 15 in 1973. Here in the Greater Wenatchee Valley area.

We normally have snow and cold weather at our March Studebaker flea market in Pa, but it was in the 60's and 70's this weekend. A perfect example of local weather, no proof either way about climate change.

689 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:47am

re: #685 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wait a damn minute! You like the Stones but hate David Bowie?

The older Mick Jagger gets, the more he looks like Don Knotts.

And Keith Richards has to pretend he's gay to rent a room in Mick's boarding house.

690 vxbush  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:50am

re: #665 albusteve

C Rangle answers to the people

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

I saw that this morning. The man is disgusting, and yet he has the gall to think that the other guy is a moron.

Loverly.

Morning, everyone. Much to do today, but taking a break here first.

691 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:56am

re: #672 avanti

How long have you had this obsession with Rush, chief?

692 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:08am

"Overwhelmed"

Every new administration--and president--goes through an adjustment process, but this is ridiculous. Mr. Geraghty notes that President Obama is "overwhelmed" by the demands of his new office...

...Equally disconcerting, the Telegraph goes on to say that the commander-in-chief has failed to "even fake an interest in foreign policy." That assessment came from a Washington "insider" with close ties to the administration.

As President Obama is about to discover, his sabbatical from international issues will soon come to an abrupt end, with potentially disastrous consequences.

Heaven help us.

693 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:09am

re: #679 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Had to run to Wal-hell....

Back and sassy!

LOL. oh man do i know that.

694 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:15am

re: #678 Lincolntf

That must make for some interesting phone numbers.

"Call 666-HELL for Little Bo Peep Daycare..."

There is a cab company in the area with the phone number 666-6666. I will never take that ride to hell.

695 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:27am

re: #689 Wyatt Earp

And Keith Richards has to pretend he's gay to rent a room in Mick's boarding house.

Yeah, but his two roommates are hot!

/

696 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:28am

re: #647 FrogMarch Sure, by then we'll have learned how to cheat in more sophisictated ways!

697 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:04am

re: #671 Ford_Prefect

eeek. I got the devils comment number. I am not a superstitious person, but those numbers always creeped my out. The town I live has those numbers as the first three in their phone numbers for a lot of people. Fortunately we are not one or I would have to move.

Maybe my No. 668 should be there.

698 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:23am

BBL

699 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:37am

Boortz calls Obama "King of the United States"

ROFLMAO

700 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:40am

re: #694 Ford_Prefect

There is a cab company in the area with the phone number 666-6666. I will never take that ride to hell.

Aren't we all on that ride now?

701 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:41am

re: #672 avanti

Yep, the thought occurred to me of the fuss that would be made if the reverse happened. Had he have replaced a Lincoln bust with one of a foreign leader in the oval office, we'd be pissed about that. Thank goodness it was not a loaned Reagan bust leaving the oval office or Rush's head would have exploded. :)

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!

702 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:42am

re: #697 MandyManners

Maybe my No. 668 should be there.

HA! Stinky should swap 'em.

703 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:53am

re: #685 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wait a damn minute! You like the Stones but hate David Bowie?

The older Mick Jagger gets, the more he looks like Don Knotts.

they are all looking strange these days except C Watts...he's always been a health nut...I dunno

704 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:23am

re: #657 MandyManners

He has a bust of a Republican in the Oval Office!

Hey, Bill had the bust of an intern in the Oval Office...

705 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:27am

re: #686 rightside

But don't you dare question their patriotism.

The only difference between the democrats and a bag of horse manure, is the bag.

Remember when Hillary said we had the right to disagree with the POTUS? Why do we not have that right with the Big Zero?

706 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:35am

re: #703 albusteve

Today, Charlie looks like the same guy who didn't want to be in their videos in the 80s.

707 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:37am

re: #703 albusteve

they are all looking strange these days except C Watts...he's always been a health nut...I dunno

It's not easy to find all-natural organic herbal acid!

708 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:46am

re: #689 Wyatt Earp

And Keith Richards has to pretend he's gay to rent a room in Mick's boarding house.

hey!...that's a penalty

709 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:18:06am

re: #652 Occasional Reader
Hope you guessed my name! (doot doo!)!*
Morning O.R. - how are you today?
.
.
.
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

710 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:18:14am

re: #708 albusteve

hey!...that's a penalty

If there is a penalty for... FRICK'N HYSTERICAL!

711 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:18:15am

re: #665 albusteve

C Rangle answers to the people

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

The elected-for-life governing elite don't need to answer to the people they serve.

/especially if they are democrats.

712 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:18:56am

re: #697 MandyManners

Maybe my No. 668 should be there.

I was thinking that.

713 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:19:01am

re: #705 Wyatt Earp

Remember when Hillary said we had the right to disagree with the POTUS? Why do we not have that right with the Big Zero?

Because he is sooo much smarter than all of us./////

714 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:19:19am

Opened the front door (storm closed) put the dog's bed in a beautiful beam of sunshine. He's so happy, he could just shit.

Oops! BRB...

715 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:19:34am

re: #705 Wyatt Earp


Because we're rethuglicans... racists, bigots, homophobes, and xenophobes.

/Pot, meet kettle

716 Canoe Train  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:19:37am

This just in:
The fishwrapper of Record is circling the bowl, getting closer to going down the drain.
NYT sells, leases part of their new HQ.

717 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:20:21am

re: #715 rightside

Because we're rethuglicans... racists, bigots, homophobes, and xenophobes.

/Pot, meet kettle

Can't be a black pot. That would be racist!

/

718 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:20:57am

re: #673 Wyatt Earp

Oh, he was a Republican. Watch this:

I don't know about using dead presidents to hawk stuff. Entertaining, though.

719 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:21:03am

re: #705 Wyatt Earp

Remember when Hillary said we had the right to disagree with the POTUS? Why do we not have that right with the Big Zero?

I posted this quote earlier. It seems appropriate here:

"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it." -- Mark Twain

720 Canoe Train  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:21:17am

re: #715 rightside

You forget to label us hypocrites. The left loves, Looooooooovvvvvves to point out hypocrasy when it is from the Right.

721 vxbush  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:21:29am

re: #711 FrogMarch

The elected-for-life governing elite don't need to answer to the people they serve.

/especially if they are democrats.

Of course not. They believe they are elected to rule over others. Silly people who think they can just vote for them and hold them accountable!

Best lesson I ever got in my government class was that while we did elect senators and representatives, we often did not know what was contained in various bills (this was before the Internet era, obviously) and therefore we were told: do not be surprised if elected officials do not vote the way you want, because you may not know everything that's going on with a bill.

Alas, he should have also taught us about earmarks. That would have explained a lot.

722 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:21:34am

re: #680 albusteve

just for me?....heh...My anthem

OR.

723 vxbush  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:22:39am

re: #714 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Opened the front door (storm closed) put the dog's bed in a beautiful beam of sunshine. He's so happy, he could just shit.

Oops! BRB...

I'd be willing to borrow that sunbeam...preferably shit-free, though.

724 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:22:40am

re: #704 Kenneth

Hey, Bill had the bust of an intern in the Oval ORal Office...

725 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:22:47am

re: #688 avanti
Climate change is the old, Darryl Hannah says the new descriptor is Climate Chaos!

726 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:23:23am

Shit. Let's try this again.

re: #704 Kenneth

Hey, Bill had the bust of an intern in the Oval ORal Office...

727 Miss Trixie  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:23:43am

Morning again.

{realwest} Herro luv *smoochie-smooch* I think I know who you're talking about:

728 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:23:48am

re: #663 Occasional Reader
Huh, if only using a graph would make the opposition to Hugo "only" 40%. In your dreams Maricon!

729 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:23:50am

re: #725 pingjockey

I have a theory about chaos...

Daryl Hannah is an idiot.

730 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:24:02am

Here, this ought to give everybody a good start for the week. Warren Buffet saying the economy fell off a cliff.


[Link: www.comcast.net...]

and a clip to inspire all of us

What is required is a commander in chief that's looked at like a commander in chief in a time of war," Buffett said.

731 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:24:21am

re: #704 Kenneth

Hey, Bill had the bust of an intern in the Oval Office...

Having a bust of an intern is better than being a bust as a President.

732 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:24:52am

re: #728 realwest

Huh, if only using a graph would make the opposition to Hugo "only" 40%. In your dreams Maricon!

It's Bolivarian Revolutionary graph, not one of your evil imperialist graphs, yanqui bastage!

733 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:25:01am

here comes the shit storm...


[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

734 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:25:09am

re: #731 Spare O'Lake

That poor dumb-assed girl.

735 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:25:34am

re: #729 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have a theory about chaos...

Daryl Hannah is an idiot.

Jakcie O was right in her misgivings about John dating her.

736 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:12am

re: #691 rightside

How long have you had this obsession with Rush, chief?

I'm not obsessed with him, but I do find him entertaining even though I usually disagree with him. I think he needs the controversy to drive his ratings, and attacks both the GOP and the Dems when they don't agree with his politics. I think he's more honest then Anne Couter for example, I don't think she believes half the stuff she spouts to sell her books.

737 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:16am

re: #729 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Your last statement is fact not theory!

738 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:20am

re: #735 MandyManners

John-John or Jack?
/

739 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:37am

re: #665 albusteve
Well sure, good ole Charlie is used to representing the continually downtrodden and mostly black constituents that constitute his base in NYC and so naturally wouldn't expect any of them to ask such a question!
Just a natural reflex on his part,nothing much to see here, move along!

740 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:44am

re: #716 Canoe Train


YES! I am waiting for the WaPo soon after!

741 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:49am

re: #735 MandyManners

Jakcie O was right in her misgivings about John dating her.

JohnJohn would have been better off with Elaine Bennes than Darryl Hannah.

742 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:27:07am

re: #722 MandyManners

OR.

my number 1 all time favorite, ever

743 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:27:34am

Are we going to be able to get Cuban cigars soon?

744 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:27:35am

re: #730 soxfan4life

Here, this ought to give everybody a good start for the week. Warren Buffet saying the economy fell off a cliff.

[Link: www.comcast.net...]

and a clip to inspire all of us

What is required is a commander in chief that's looked at like a commander in chief in a time of war," Buffett said.

It didn't fall, it was pushed.

745 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:27:46am

re: #738 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

John-John or Jack?
/

*whack*

746 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:19am

re: #742 albusteve

re: #722 MandyManners

OR.

my number 1 all time favorite, ever

I am? Cool!

747 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:21am

Dryer's buzzing agin. bbiab

748 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:24am

re: #745 MandyManners

*whack*

Oh, c'mon! That was funny!

749 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:36am

re: #685 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wait a damn minute! You like the Stones but hate David Bowie?

The older Mick Jagger gets, the more he looks like Don Knotts.


Don Knotts or Harry Reid?

750 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:43am

re: #725 pingjockey

Climate change is the old, Darryl Hannah says the new descriptor is Climate Chaos!

The climate change supporters that go off the reservation with their doom and gloom comments just hurt reasonable discussion of the issue.

751 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:57am

re: #749 Leonidas Hoplite

Don Knotts or Harry Reid?

If they had a baby?

752 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:29:33am

re: #750 avanti

Avanti, I don't agree with you very often, but...DING!

753 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:29:35am

re: #739 realwest

Well sure, good ole Charlie is used to representing the continually downtrodden and mostly black constituents that constitute his base in NYC and so naturally wouldn't expect any of them to ask such a question!
Just a natural reflex on his part,nothing much to see here, move along!

yep...the fact that he is a world class shakedown artisit and gangster means nothing...he will fall someday

754 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:29:38am

re: #733 albusteve

here comes the shit storm...

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

I posted that upthread (#469). No one seemed to care. Hopefully this will get people talking about it. We all seriously need to be aware of what our kids are being taught.

755 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:30:18am

re: #746 Occasional Reader

I am? Cool!

groan...you got fu tho

756 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:30:32am

re: #719 Ford_Prefect
Far as I'm concerned Ford, y'all can post that quote on every political or open thread!

757 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:31:21am

re: #754 Ford_Prefect

I posted that upthread (#469). No one seemed to care. Hopefully this will get people talking about it. We all seriously need to be aware of what our kids are being taught.

overnighters just like to gossip....

758 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:31:23am

re: #736 avanti

I'm not obsessed with him, but I do find him entertaining even though I usually disagree with him. I think he needs the controversy to drive his ratings, and attacks both the GOP and the Dems when they don't agree with his politics. I think he's more honest then Anne Couter for example, I don't think she believes half the stuff she spouts to sell her books.


Rush carries a lot of the mail for Repubs and conservatives. His message is consistent and honest, for the most part. He can also be pretty damn amusing. I can't handle the tit-for-tat minutiae of regular politics, but in a crisis I tune him in quite a bit. I would love to see him debate Obama--he'd wipe the floor with the Zero.

759 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:31:41am

Drudge, right now...two headlines...

Global economy "approaching" pick-up: G10

and...

World Bank offers dire forecast for world economy

Maybe these folks should just STFU.

760 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:31:43am

re: #747 MandyManners

Dryer's buzzing agin. bbiab

Oh just shoot the damn thing already. It is always taking you away from what is truly important.

761 vxbush  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:32:33am

re: #754 Ford_Prefect

I posted that upthread (#469). No one seemed to care. Hopefully this will get people talking about it. We all seriously need to be aware of what our kids are being taught.

I read about that yesterday. My take on it is that PC has gotten so out of whack that we now prefer eastern religions and Islam and present them without any flaws, and denigrate Judaism and Christianity mercilessly. The world is whack, in other words.

Okay, now I have to get some work done. Rats! Later, gators.

762 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:32:41am

re: #756 realwest

Far as I'm concerned Ford, y'all can post that quote on every political or open thread!

You got it!

763 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:32:48am

re: #754 Ford_Prefect

I posted that upthread (#469). No one seemed to care. Hopefully this will get people talking about it. We all seriously need to be aware of what our kids are being taught.

Charles should post it...seems mighty relevant about now

764 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:33:17am

Later folks!

765 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:33:38am

re: #743 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Are we going to be able to get Cuban cigars soon?

I'm for that. I don't think the decades old embargo accomplished much and we are buddy buddy with China for example and ignore a potential trading partner 90 miles off our coast. Trade with the Commies tends to give them a peak at the wonders of Wal Marts and capitalism.

766 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:33:41am

re: #759 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Drudge, right now...two headlines...

Global economy "approaching" pick-up: G10

and...

World Bank offers dire forecast for world economy

Maybe these folks should just STFU.

You noticed that too? I thought it was just me going crazier.

767 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:34:33am

Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown

Allies of Mr Obama say his weary appearance in the Oval Office with Mr Brown illustrates the strain he is now under, and the president's surprise at the sheer volume of business that crosses his desk.

You can't blame Obama... after all he's never held down a full time job before.

768 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:34:37am

re: #727 {Miss Trixie} Good morning Gorgeous and some extra *smoochies* for you - Jonathan Krohn - that's the erudite and very well spoken young 14 year old who was frying Obama's ass on Fox and Friends today!
Now watch Ramn and Carville go after him with ridicule and what not - you think Joe the Plumber had it bad?
That's what that Day By Day cartoon I linked to in my #526 was referring to - bet money on it!

769 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:34:44am

Heh...Charles is Wikipedia?

Wikipedia scrubs Obama eligibility:
Mention of citizenship issues deleted in minutes, 'offending' users banned

Yay, Wikipedia (for once).

Of course, they also remove any mentions of BHO's associations, etc.

770 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:34:58am

re: #754 Ford_Prefect

I posted that upthread (#469). No one seemed to care. Hopefully this will get people talking about it. We all seriously need to be aware of what our kids are being taught.

Unfortunately, many of those who care about this kind of stuff have their kids in private schools, not public schools, and the time they have to devote to school issues is used on the schools their kids attend instead of public schools.

771 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:35:11am

re: #762 Ford_Prefect

You got it!

it would be interesting to hear what Twains enemies or detractors said about him back in the day....then maybe he had none

772 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:35:27am

re: #721 vxbush

Of course not. They believe they are elected to rule over others. Silly people who think they can just vote for them and hold them accountable!

Best lesson I ever got in my government class was that while we did elect senators and representatives, we often did not know what was contained in various bills (this was before the Internet era, obviously) and therefore we were told: do not be surprised if elected officials do not vote the way you want, because you may not know everything that's going on with a bill.

Alas, he should have also taught us about earmarks. That would have explained a lot.

Even worse, Obama is normalizing deception. Our of one side of his mouth he demands accountability and an end to earmarks, all while he majestically signs his name to endless new entitlements, pay-to-play paybacks, & bottomless pork and ear-mark spending bills.

773 UberInfidel67  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:35:29am

Guys...I just posted on hell of a link (at least I think so) Check it out!

774 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:36:05am

re: #732 Occasional Reader
No it ain't - y'all just have it turned upside down!

775 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:36:10am

re: #766 Walter L. Newton

You noticed that too? I thought it was just me going crazier.

Drudge has a certain shocka! quotient he uses....no question about it

776 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:36:41am

re: #761 vxbush

I read about that yesterday. My take on it is that PC has gotten so out of whack that we now prefer eastern religions and Islam and present them without any flaws, and denigrate Judaism and Christianity mercilessly. The world is whack, in other words.

Okay, now I have to get some work done. Rats! Later, gators.

I think this is much more nefarious than simple PC BS. This is intentional misinterpretation of the facts to favor a group of religious extremists. Whether it is being done out of fear of retribution or a deliberate effort to mislead it is wrong and needs to be brought to light. This is our children we are talking about.

777 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:37:27am

re: #773 UberInfidel67

Guys...I just posted on hell of a link (at least I think so) Check it out!

Can't find it . . ,.
post it here.

778 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:37:41am

re: #767 Kenneth

Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown


You can't blame Obama... after all he's never held down a full time job before.


I'll bet that the stress has driven him to about three packs of Marlboros a day now. He has never had a full time job before.

779 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:06am

Bad Paintings of Barack Obama

Some are silly, while some of them are truly frightening.

780 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:23am

re: #772 FrogMarch

Even worse, Obama is normalizing deception. Our of one side of his mouth he demands accountability and an end to earmarks, all while he majestically signs his name to endless new entitlements, pay-to-play paybacks, & bottomless pork and ear-mark spending bills.

the tool he uses to do this is the MSM....they make the whole thing work

781 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:26am

re: #766 Walter L. Newton

Hey bud...
I would like for the economists to start forecasting like George Carlin's "Hippy Dippy Weather Guy"...(paraphrasing)

"It's snowing outside, we don't know how much it's going to snow because it hasn't stopped snowing yet."

782 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:28am

re: #733 albusteve
Ah, words of wisdom from your link:

Just as with curricular green globaloney, your best defense against scholastic Dhimmitude begins at home.


Discuss what they're being taught, and be prepared to teach them the truth. Teach them about Jesus, or Israel, or both. Once they're old enough to understand, teach them about 9/11. Teach them about Sharia and jihad and oppressed women and terrorism and honor killings and barbaric execution methods. Teach them that only just and nurturing cultures deserve to be celebrated, not diversity itself.


But above all, teach them how to recognize propaganda and to think for themselves.

783 UberInfidel67  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:37am

[Link: www.energytomorrow.org...]

Here it is Reine : )

784 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:39:50am

"I think he can be ready, but right now I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training." - Joe Biden, 2007

785 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:39:50am

re: #779 Kenneth

Bad Paintings of Barack Obama

Some are silly, while some of them are truly frightening.

I love #4 - the "Mexican?" Obama!

786 Beach Lover  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:07am

re: #758 JohnAdams

everytime I hear "Dancing Queen" I 'bout drive in the ditch laughing! Most miss Rush's humor and take it for arrogance.

787 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:07am

re: #779 Kenneth

Bad Paintings of Barack Obama

Some are silly, while some of them are truly frightening.

bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad

788 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:24am

re: #783 UberInfidel67

[Link: www.energytomorrow.org...]

Here it is Reine : )

Wishful thinking with Obama and the greenies in charge.

789 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:45am

re: #778 opnion

I'll bet that the stress has driven him to about three packs of Marlboros a day now. He has never had a full time job before.

"Why didn't anyone tell me this job was going to be so much work?"
--Obama

790 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:55am

re: #786 Beach Lover

I don't listen to him often enough to know what in the hell are you talking about.

791 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:41:17am

re: #782 realwest

Ah, words of wisdom from your link:

good point...the schools are not the bottom line, parents are and they seem to be losing grip on the art of parenting these days

792 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:41:38am

re: #789 Ford_Prefect

"Why didn't anyone tell me this job was going to be so much work?"
--Obama

I gave him many, many warnings before the election. He just didn't listen to me.

793 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:41:46am
794 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:41:53am

re: #789 Ford_Prefect

"Why didn't anyone tell me this job was going to be so much work?"
--Obama

It's difficult to kill off the capitalist system in 6 weeks. Obama is exhausted.

795 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:41:59am
796 UberInfidel67  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:42:14am

re: #788 soxfan4life
So you are just gonna give up? Not cool.

797 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:42:33am
798 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:42:44am

re: #786 Beach Lover

everytime I hear "Dancing Queen" I 'bout drive in the ditch laughing! Most miss Rush's humor and take it for arrogance.

I'm sure he's got a massive ego, but I bet he'd be a fun guy to have a couple beers with.

799 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:43:01am

re: #785 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I love #4 - the "Mexican?" Obama!

Didja see the Mexican Flag over the White House?

800 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:43:11am

Glancing at the headline of the previous thread re Galloway's convoy getting stoned, I could not help but think about pre-48 Jewish convoys being attacked with much worse outcomes, while the British, at best, did nothing about it. My sympathy quotient for Galloway and his ilk seems to be pretty low.

801 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:43:18am

re: #785 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I love #4 - the "Mexican?" Obama!

With a taco on his head... just wonderful. My fave, too, I think even beating the unicorn one at the beginning.

802 ciaospirit  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:43:43am

So much for the age of transparency. Job Biden spoke at the lavish union "conference" in Miami and the press was banned. Every word behind closed doors.

803 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:43:47am

re: #767 Kenneth
Oh yes we can! The MSM relentlessly attacked George W. Bush for doing that job for 8 years; Obama hasn't even done it for two months yet and the MSM is already making exuses for his gaffes and, quite frankly, laziness.
Have some more coffee or whatever Mr. President, y'all need to be awake NOW!

804 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:44:08am

re: #795 OldLineTexan

The Chinese are now testing Obama.

If we go to war with the Chinese, we could stop paying on the loans... right?

805 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:44:43am

re: #782 realwest

Ah, words of wisdom from your link:

Very true. Teach your children your values. they may not really listen at first, but they will come around in time. I did.

806 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:44:44am

re: #802 ciaospirit

So much for the age of transparency. Job Biden spoke at the lavish union "conference" in Miami and the press was banned. Every word behind closed doors.

The most open and ethical Congress ever! - Nancy Pelosi

807 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:44:52am

re: #795 OldLineTexan

The Chinese are now testing Obama.

so are the Norks who are now ready for.....WAR!....with somebody, they haven't decided who yet....

808 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:45:39am

re: #771 albusteve
Huh, when Twain had Huckleberry Finn published, he was darn near tarred and feathered. A "Southenor" who had the balls to write a book - a GREAT BOOK too - about the evils of segregation back in his day.
He was roundly hated and condemned in the South at least.

809 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:46:13am

re: #767 Kenneth

Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown

You can't blame Obama... after all he's never held down a full time job before.

It must just be me, but I'm not overly worked up about the fact that BHO didn't go over the moon to help a unpopular Prime Minister score some political points. Before the visit, the British press was moaning about the visit being a transparent ploy to gain some political capital, now bitching about a crappy gift.
Had BHO rolled out the red carpet and handed Brown a F 22 Raptor, the Britts would bitch about him trying to swing the election to Brown. Yep, it was a crappy gift , but it won't make a difference in our relationship in the long term.

810 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:00am

re: #802 ciaospirit

So much for the age of transparency. Job Biden spoke at the lavish union "conference" in Miami and the press was banned. Every word behind closed doors.

I heard a direct quote reported (so it's accuracy, of course is in question)...
Joe referred to "Dancing with who brung ya, and y'all brought us here..."

811 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:04am

re: #788 soxfan4life

Wishful thinking with Obama and the greenies in charge.

They are going exactly in the opposite direction. Even if their wind/solar fantasy is achievable, it could not even be operational for a decade at least. A decade that is already going to be a complete mess. All carbon-based energy is evil. Their energy policy alone could bankrupt this country.

812 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:26am

the NEA wants total control of your children and they have the donks do get it


[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]

813 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:44am

re: #799 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Didja see the Mexican Flag over the White House?

Upon closer examination, yes. The taco sombrero is what really grabbed my attention, that & the underwear floating about.

814 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:58am

re: #809 avanti

Protocol, Avanti. Simple protocol. He blew it. Face it.

815 Beach Lover  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:02am

re: #790 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I meant to say "Banking Queen" it's a parody of Barney Fwank to the tune of Dancing Queen by Abba.
Paul Shankin (sp) is a genius.
I'm sorry you have missed it.

816 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:22am

em>re: #795 OldLineTexan

The Chinese are now testing Obama.

From your link:

The statement said the Navy sprayed one ship with water from fire hoses to force it away and the Chinese crew members stripped to their underwear and continued closing within 25 feet.

Do we have effective countermeasures against these new "strip down to our underwear" techniques? Should the Pentagon be consulting with the Village People or something?

817 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:25am

re: #809 avanti

It must just be me, but I'm not overly worked up about the fact that BHO didn't go over the moon to help a unpopular Prime Minister score some political points. Before the visit, the British press was moaning about the visit being a transparent ploy to gain some political capital, now bitching about a crappy gift.
Had BHO rolled out the red carpet and handed Brown a F 22 Raptor, the Britts would bitch about him trying to swing the election to Brown. Yep, it was a crappy gift , but it won't make a difference in our relationship in the long term.

Well of course it's you. If it was Bush, you would be pissing in your pants.

818 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:37am

re: #808 realwest

Huh, when Twain had Huckleberry Finn published, he was darn near tarred and feathered. A "Southenor" who had the balls to write a book - a GREAT BOOK too - about the evils of segregation back in his day.
He was roundly hated and condemned in the South at least.

thanks...I am woefully behind with my Twain fu...I need to do some reading

819 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:42am

re: #796 UberInfidel67

So you are just gonna give up? Not cool.

Don't want to give up, just stating with Pelosi, Obama, and company in charge we will be taking it on the chin for the next 2 years. Hopefully Steele can get the GOP in shape and run on a platform of fiscal constraint and utilize our own natural resources, drill baby drill. And make big advances for 2010. McCain actually had that right, explore alternatives, but drill for domestic oil in the interim.

820 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:43am

re: #815 Beach Lover

HAHAHAHAHA!

821 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:49:08am

re: #783 UberInfidel67

[Link: www.energytomorrow.org...]

Here it is Reine : )

Thanks!
very interesting.

The Roi is a mud engineer for offshore drilling operations. Drilling operations for the well he's currently working on is being shut down - he will be home tomorrow, a week early, and has no assignment lined up for the next job yet. Usually there's more work than engineers. Not so right now, it appears. And it looks like it's only going to get worse. sheesh. Everybody needs energy, we figured his job was fairly safe. Maybe not.

822 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:49:35am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. These are truly taxing times for all Americans. At the national level, the Administration is pushing cap and trade, which will wipe out the Obama tax "cuts" and "rebates" and destroys the notion that 95% of Americans would not see tax hikes. Obama's promises are so much BS. It would raise taxes and costs int he teeth of a recession, deepening the effects of the recession and making things far worse than if he did nothing.

And it would adversely affect those in the lowest income tax brackets hardest - since they would be using a larger percentage of their income to cover the increases than other tax brackets.

Meanwhile, at the state level, it's a mess all around. In NJ, the mess is such that they're pondering cuts - cutting property tax rebates and actually considering cutting the state workforce (whether that happens remains to be seen since the political class is beholden to the unions despite the fact that the state's fiscal situation is due in large part to pandering to those same unions).

823 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:50:58am

re: #814 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Protocol, Avanti. Simple protocol. He blew it. Face it.

Hard to disagree with that, but my point was that it'll make little difference in the long run. I predict the Britt's will go ga-ga over BHO when he visits Britain.

824 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:09am

re: #795 OldLineTexan
Huh. Maybe we ought to send a couple of Aircraft Carrier Battle groups to harrass the hell out of the Chinese!
Oh, wait, Obama's POTUS now,
nevermind.

825 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:15am

re: #813 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Upon closer examination, yes. The taco sombrero is what really grabbed my attention, that & the underwear floating about.

at this momento taco sales are skyrocketing across the southwest

826 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:23am

re: #818 albusteve

thanks...I am woefully behind with my Twain fu...I need to do some reading

Huck is considered by many to the greatest work in American Literature.

827 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:37am
828 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:54am

re: #804 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If we go to war with the Chinese, we could stop paying on the loans... right?

You pay now!

829 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:59am

re: #809 avanti

It must just be me, but I'm not overly worked up about the fact that BHO didn't go over the moon to help a unpopular Prime Minister score some political points. Before the visit, the British press was moaning about the visit being a transparent ploy to gain some political capital, now bitching about a crappy gift.
Had BHO rolled out the red carpet and handed Brown a F 22 Raptor, the Britts would bitch about him trying to swing the election to Brown. Yep, it was a crappy gift , but it won't make a difference in our relationship in the long term.

Avanti, you are so very very wrong about this.
The gifts aren't about Brown or Obama - the gifts are about the relationship between the UK and the US - us, the citizens of these two countries, in other words.
We were very poorly represented by the person elected to represent us on the world stage. I am embarrassed no end by that. Angry too.

830 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:52:30am

"We are called the nation of inventors. And we are. We could still claim that title and wear its loftiest honors if we had stopped with the first thing we ever invented, which was human liberty."
--Mark Twain

831 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:04am

re: #826 JohnAdams

Huck is considered by many to the greatest work in American Literature.

I've read amost of his books....his later years intrigue me now

832 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:19am

During these troubled times, I find that a nice Gin and Tonic (not know because I am at work) and Herbie Hancock: Head Hunters (now because I am at work) seem to make things better

833 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:20am

re: #806 Wyatt Earp
Uh, Wyatt - she's talking about Congress - she might be right! LOL!

834 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:27am

re: #816 Occasional Reader

em>re: #795 OldLineTexan


Do we have effective countermeasures against these new "strip down to our underwear" techniques? Should the Pentagon be consulting with the Village People or something?

I think we should retaliate by Sun Myung Mooning them.

835 UberInfidel67  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:27am

re: #819 soxfan4life
I believe we gotta start somewhere and there are numbers on those pages that most people don't know about. The oil and gas industry can and will generate millions and millions of dollars. I just think we should get the word out. I for one will be forwarding that information to my local representative. At least SOMEONE is taking notice.

836 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:42am

re: #804 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If we go to war with the Chinese, we could stop paying on the loans... right?

Me Chinese, Me play joke,
Me call all loans,
End all Hope.

837 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:51am

re: #760 Ford_Prefect

Oh just shoot the damn thing already. It is always taking you away from what is truly important.

Buy stock in S.C. Johnson & Son, the maker of Shout pre-treatment stuff, 'cause it's that time of year again when The Kid can find every single bit of mud over 10 acres.

BTW, If I got buzzed as often as the dryer, I'd be stoned 24/7.

838 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:52am

re: #809 avanti

There's more to it than the gift issue. The crappy gift choice was symptomatic of the complete failure of the Obama administration to follow traditional protocol for the visits of the PM of the UK: dinner & a press conference, flags out, the whole thing. What's worse is the excuse offered up by the White House, that Obama is overwhelmed & too tired. If that's their excus, ther reality must be even worse.

One day even a stubborn Obama supporter like you will be forced to admit that hiring a man with next to no relevant experience was not such a good idea.

839 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:16am

re: #828 OldLineTexan

You pay now!

What happened to you, China? You used to be cool.

840 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:18am

re: #809 avanti

It must just be me, but I'm not overly worked up about the fact that BHO didn't go over the moon to help a unpopular Prime Minister score some political points. Before the visit, the British press was moaning about the visit being a transparent ploy to gain some political capital, now bitching about a crappy gift.
Had BHO rolled out the red carpet and handed Brown a F 22 Raptor, the Britts would bitch about him trying to swing the election to Brown. Yep, it was a crappy gift , but it won't make a difference in our relationship in the long term.

Of course you're not.

841 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:37am

re: #834 OldLineTexan

I think we should retaliate by Sun Myung Mooning them.

They say that USN ship is unarmed, but it looks to me like they deployed that rumored "gay bomb" on the Chinese.

842 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:45am

re: #817 Walter L. Newton

Well of course it's you. If it was Bush, you would be pissing in your pants.

I can't argue with your assumption about what you think I would have done, but I think it's a pissy issue to get worked up over when you we have bigger fish to fry.

843 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:55:25am

re: #823 avanti

Hard to disagree with that, but my point was that it'll make little difference in the long run. I predict the Britt's will go ga-ga over BHO when he visits Britain.

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!

844 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:55:45am

re: #826 JohnAdams

Huck is considered by many to the greatest work in American Literature.

You mean its not The Da Vinci Code? Well, shut my mouth!
/

845 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:55:47am

re: #839 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What happened to you, China? You used to be cool.

Hey, we're still cool. You pay later. We still launch missiles, though.

846 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:55:48am

Coming to a T-shirt near you...

847 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:56:46am

re: #843 MandyManners

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!

amen sister

848 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:56:49am

re: #843 MandyManners

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!

The chance to get to post that gets me out of the bed in the mornings.

849 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:56:53am

re: #841 Occasional Reader

They say that USN ship is unarmed, but it looks to me like they deployed that rumored "gay bomb" on the Chinese.

OK, wasn't there a Grade B movie about a bomb that destroyed clothing?

Maybe the O is running secret tests ...

850 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:57:17am

re: #841 Occasional Reader

They say that USN ship is unarmed, but it looks to me like they deployed that rumored "gay bomb" on the Chinese.

I cannot believe there are NO weapons aboard....and wtf is this ship out there with no escort at all?

851 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:57:31am

re: #847 bellamags

amen sister

For some reason he reminds me of a cat in a litter box, busily covering up the shit.

852 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:57:36am

re: #846 Kenneth

Coming to a T-shirt near you...

Hah!

853 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:57:43am

re: #846 Kenneth

Coming to a T-shirt near you...

That is a trifecta!

854 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:57:53am

re: #849 OldLineTexan

OK, wasn't there a Grade B movie about a bomb that destroyed clothing?

With Maxwell Smart, IIRC.

855 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:10am

re: #835 UberInfidel67

I believe we gotta start somewhere and there are numbers on those pages that most people don't know about. The oil and gas industry can and will generate millions and millions of dollars. I just think we should get the word out. I for one will be forwarding that information to my local representative. At least SOMEONE is taking notice.

I have sent several emails to my representative in regards to domestic oil production, being the good little dem she is I get the standard dem response, drilling is not the answer, we must invest in solar and other green energy technology. Along with the gratuitous President Bush left us with a huge deficit. When I called her on it and said all the people in Washington were responsible for the out of control spending, she stopped emailing me back.

856 Beach Lover  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:12am

re: #842 avanti

we always have bigger fish to fry! Cause we ignore the little fish when we should be catching them.

857 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:12am

re: #843 MandyManners

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!

But that is the FUCKING POINT for Avanti, because Avanti doesn't understand the FUCKING POINT, otherwise he would see why this kind of misuse of protocol is the whole FUCKING POINT.

The FUCKING POINT is he is a spanish slop bucket carrier for the left.

858 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:25am

re: #848 MandyManners

Mandy,

Your quote about "I hope everyone who didn't vote for McCain...." is my favorite quote on my facebook page. : )

859 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:49am

re: #851 MandyManners

For some reason he reminds me of a cat in a litter box, busily covering up the shit.

LOL. while looking around to see if anyone is watching.

860 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:56am

re: #838 Kenneth

"One day even a stubborn Obama supporter like you will be forced to admit that hiring a man with next to no relevant experience was not such a good idea."

Want to bet?

Morning all from a sunny California. Spring has sprung.

861 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:00am

re: #809 avanti

It must just be me, but I'm not overly worked up about the fact that BHO didn't go over the moon to help a unpopular Prime Minister score some political points. Before the visit, the British press was moaning about the visit being a transparent ploy to gain some political capital, now bitching about a crappy gift.
Had BHO rolled out the red carpet and handed Brown a F 22 Raptor, the Britts would bitch about him trying to swing the election to Brown. Yep, it was a crappy gift , but it won't make a difference in our relationship in the long term.

Come on Avanti, If BHO & Michelle were treated so poorly on a visit to a foreign leader, the media here would go nuts & the Kool Aid drinkers would be bat shit.
Are you really saying that because Brown is not a popular leader in the UK that this rudeness is somehow ok?

862 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:10am

re: #854 Occasional Reader

With Maxwell Smart, IIRC.

THAT'S IT!

Why oh why couldn't Obama have started a war with the Swedish Bikini Team?

/

863 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:13am

re: #851 MandyManners

For some reason he reminds me of a cat in a litter box, busily covering up the shit.

Who? Obama or Avanti?

864 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:15am

re: #857 Walter L. Newton

But that is the FUCKING POINT for Avanti, because Avanti doesn't understand the FUCKING POINT, otherwise he would see why this kind of misuse of protocol is the whole FUCKING POINT.

The FUCKING POINT is he is a spanish slop bucket carrier for the left.

Good morning sweetie. : )

865 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:37am

re: #860 turn

"One day even a stubborn Obama supporter like you will be forced to admit that hiring a man with next to no relevant experience was not such a good idea."

Want to bet?

Morning all from a sunny California. Spring has sprung.

Time to grow stuff to burn in fires come July!

866 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:55am

re: #863 Ford_Prefect

Who? Obama or Avanti?

Heh.

867 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:00:28am

re: #823 avanti

Hard to disagree with that, but my point was that it'll make little difference in the long run. I predict the Britt's will go ga-ga over BHO when he visits Britain.

They may even afford him courtesy. Who knows?

868 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:00:36am

re: #864 bellamags

Good morning sweetie. : )

Morning. I feel better now.

869 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:00:39am

re: #855 soxfan4life

I have sent several emails to my representative in regards to domestic oil production, being the good little dem she is I get the standard dem response, drilling is not the answer, we must invest in solar and other green energy technology. Along with the gratuitous President Bush left us with a huge deficit. When I called her on it and said all the people in Washington were responsible for the out of control spending, she stopped emailing me back.

I'm gonna go out to the garage and get a shovel and carry it with me all day. The first person who says "green" fucking anything is going to get whacked. This is no time for junior high science experiments!

870 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:00:46am

re: #857 Walter L. Newton

But that is the FUCKING POINT for Avanti, because Avanti doesn't understand the FUCKING POINT, otherwise he would see why this kind of misuse of protocol is the whole FUCKING POINT.

The FUCKING POINT is he is a spanish slop bucket carrier for the left.

Spanish?

871 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:00:58am

It's official. Jack Nicholson was right.

I can't handle the truth.

/or da troof

872 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:06am

re: #862 OldLineTexan

THAT'S IT!

Why oh why couldn't Obama have started a war with the Swedish Bikini Team?

/

I'd surrender.

873 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:12am

re: #858 bellamags

Mandy,

Your quote about "I hope everyone who didn't vote for McCain...." is my favorite quote on my facebook page. : )

Glad to help!

874 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:30am

re: #865 OldLineTexan

Time to grow stuff to burn in fires come July!

Oh man, don't even joke. Things are really growing with all the recent rains we've gotten. Seven day forecast is nothing but sunshine. Time for spring cleaning, which is exactly what turn did all weekend.

875 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:38am

re: #870 MandyManners

Spanish?

Handle's on the bottom.

/a guess

876 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:39am

re: #862 OldLineTexan

THAT'S IT!

Why oh why couldn't Obama have started a war with the Swedish Bikini Team?

/

If there aren't a dozen or so Playboy Playmates in that movie then I think it needs to be remade.

877 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:41am

re: #822 lawhawk
Just an excellent comment lawhawk - really excellent.
Don't know about N.J., but it would appear that Obama thinks the best way to socialize America is to destroy it's economy first.
I personally think he either believes this or is just daft!

878 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:42am

re: #869 JohnAdams

I'm gonna go out to the garage and get a shovel and carry it with me all day. The first person who says "green" fucking anything is going to get whacked. This is no time for junior high science experiments!

Give em 1 for me too.

879 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:02:06am

re: #870 MandyManners

Spanish?

A line from the musical "The Fantastiks." "A Spanish slop bucket."

880 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:02:10am

re: #874 turn

Oh man, don't even joke. Things are really growing with all the recent rains we've gotten. Seven day forecast is nothing but sunshine. Time for spring cleaning, which is exactly what turn did all weekend.

I know why it's the Golden State.

881 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:02:17am

re: #858 bellamags

Mandy,

Your quote about "I hope everyone who didn't vote for McCain...." is my favorite quote on my facebook page. : )

You tease. What's the rest of the quote?

882 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:02:39am

re: #876 Ford_Prefect

If there aren't a dozen or so Playboy Playmates in that movie then I think it needs to be remade.

Like the Playboy Playmates have been remade.

883 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:01am

re: #880 OldLineTexan

I know why it's the Golden State.

Because every gets pissed on?

884 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:03am

re: #854 Occasional Reader

The Nude Bomb

885 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:07am

re: #869 JohnAdams

I'm gonna go out to the garage and get a shovel and carry it with me all day. The first person who says "green" fucking anything is going to get whacked. This is no time for junior high science experiments!

Send a message to the Governor.

ooowwwww.

886 MJ  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:16am

Obama Administration throws Lebanon and Israel under the bus re: Syria and it's support for terrorism:

( Question from Reporter)- The second question is, without asking you to delve into any of the details of your conversations today: first, if you could give us a sense of your itinerary going forward; and secondly, we must bear in mind that these are discussions you’re having with representatives of a country that is still on the State Department’s list of nations that sponsor terrorism, and I wonder if you could, again, without delving into the areas that you specifically discussed, give us a sense of how actively you believe the Syrian Government is still engaged in terrorist activities in and out of the region. Thank you....

....AMBASSADOR FELTMAN:
....In terms of Syria, FTO, et cetera, as I said, we’ve got concerns with Syria, I’m sure Syria has concerns with us. Today was an opportunity to start to raise some of these concerns with each other directly, in addition to the dialogue that takes place already between our embassies and officials in capitals. You know, the reason why Syria is on that list is because Syria is playing host to some organizations like Hamas, you know, and we believe that Syria is supporting groups like Hezbollah. I think everyone knows why Syria is on that list.


But you know, my job today was not finger pointing per se....

[Link: www.state.gov...]


In other words, the US no longer gives a shit about Syria's support of Hamas and Syria's role in undermining Lebanese territorial integrity and it's support of Hezbollah.
The most important thing is that we have PEACE, according to Obama.

887 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:24am

re: #879 Walter L. Newton

A line from the musical "The Fantastiks." "A Spanish slop bucket."

Ahhh ...

"Try and remember
A no Obama September ..."

888 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:29am

re: #881 JohnAdams

You tease. What's the rest of the quote?

"I hope everyone who didn't vote for McCain because he wasn't conservative enough is fucking happy now."

889 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:37am

re: #880 OldLineTexan

I know why it's the Golden State.

Bankrupt, but beautiful.

890 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:48am

re: #823 avanti Well SOME Brits will go ga-ga over Obama's visit. Goerge Galloways constituents in Betheln Green for example. Personally I hope the Queen makes him wait for 20 minutes or so and then just tells him she had some important things to attend to!

891 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:50am

re: #883 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Because every gets pissed on?

Surely thou doth jest.

892 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:30am

re: #857 Walter L. Newton


C'mon Walter, tell us how you really feel. Stop being so diplomatic about it.

893 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:35am

re: #859 bellamags

LOL. while looking around to see if anyone is watching.

And getting litter all over the place.

894 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:37am

re: #889 turn

Bankrupt, but beautiful.

they will tax beauty this year

895 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:50am

This is not the Spanish slop bucket I knew.

896 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:05:40am

re: #886 MJ

The most important thing is that we have PEACE, according to Obama.

Peace is unattainable. Never going to happen.

897 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:05:45am

re: #860 turn

"One day even a stubborn Obama supporter like you will be forced to admit that hiring a man with next to no relevant experience was not such a good idea."

Want to bet?

Morning all from a sunny California. Spring has sprung.

The blooms from the pear tree nearest this window seem to poke their heads through the glass! When the sun hits it just so, it's blinding.

898 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:05:57am

re: #890 realwest

Well SOME Brits will go ga-ga over Obama's visit. Goerge Galloways constituents in Betheln Green for example. Personally I hope the Queen makes him wait for 20 minutes or so and then just tells him she had some important things to attend to!

give him a handful of comic books on the way out

899 Texas Heathen  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:08am

Did anybody else see this article.
The part that really makes my blood boil is right here.

"Is there anything wrong with saying, 'Yes'?" a Times reporter pressed.

UM Yes I think that the POTUS admitting he is a socialist would be very wrong you f*ing idiot.

900 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:25am

Periwinkle is starting to bud in the front yard. Love the color.

901 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:35am

re: #896 bellamags

Peace is unattainable. Never going to happen.

Amen to that. No, unfortunately we cannot always just get along and when that happens, you sometimes have to whack people. A fact of life.

902 Panhandler  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:37am

re: #894 albusteve

they will tax beauty this year

So those with "enhancements" will also have to pay a value added tax?

903 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:41am

re: #826 JohnAdams
Good morning to you. Yes indeed you are correct about Huck Finn being one of the greatest works of American literature. Yet schoolboards across the country - going back maybe two years now - were trying to ban Huckleberry Finn because the novel used the "N" word I think about 8 times.
That's no joke - I've never written more letters to more school boards or politicians than I have over that one issue.

904 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:48am

re: #863 Ford_Prefect

Who? Obama or Avanti?

The latter. FCBBHO seems to think it's okay to poop in the middle of the kitchen.

905 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:51am

Hey all you patriots out there in lizard land, you have got to watch the movie "Taking Chance". I watched it Saturday on cable. OMG I teared up the whole time, absolutely gripping.

906 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:53am

re: #893 MandyManners

And getting litter all over the place.

We had a cat that would try to cover her mess up with AIR. She would go through the motions, but never touch the litter with her paws. She was a faker. LOL.

907 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:53am

re: #888 bellamags

"I hope everyone who didn't vote for McCain because he wasn't conservative enough is fucking happy now."

Great.

Yeah, the complete destruction of our national economy is a pretty steep price to pay for the sake of making a point.

908 Beach Lover  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:56am

re: #877 realwest
morning {real}....I'm beginning to think he really believes it and is on a mission to destroy us. There can be no other explaination...common sense says it's political to the Dems in office, but he has never really been one of them. I believe his agenda is for more than to get reelected.
*I know ....my tin foil hat is showing*

909 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:58am

re: #898 albusteve

give him a handful of comic books on the way out

DC Comics. That'll tick him off.

910 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:07:13am

re: #843 MandyManners

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!

OK, what is the point ? I get that BHO made a protocol mistake last week. I just don't think it will have a lasting effect on our relationship with the Britts. It reminds me of the Mission Accomplished banner dust up. I'm sure GW did not come up with the idea, nor was it meant to mean what the left spun it to mean, yet he got the blame. I don't think BHO planned to give the British a snub, his acting protocol director screwed up, and the buck stops with him, but like the banner, it not as big a deal as its been made out to be.
He'll visit Great Britain next month, and do his rock star thing and all will be forgiven.

911 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:07:21am
912 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:07:50am

re: #894 albusteve

they will tax beauty this year

Oh shit, the hippies in SF and Berkley get yet another pass.

913 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:07am

re: #900 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Periwinkle is starting to bud in the front yard. Love the color.

A poem for you.

914 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:12am

re: #904 MandyManners

The latter. FCBBHO seems to think it's okay to poop in the middle of the kitchen.

If he asks my dog, he will get agreement.

915 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:27am

re: #912 turn

Oh shit, the hippies in SF and Berkley get yet another pass.

/Don't they get a religious exemption anyway?

916 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:33am

re: #904 MandyManners

The latter. FCBBHO seems to think it's okay to poop in the middle of the kitchen Wall Street.

FIFY

917 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:43am

re: #901 Walter L. Newton

Amen to that. No, unfortunately we cannot always just get along and when that happens, you sometimes have to whack people. A fact of life.

true that. Have you ever said that to anyone? I have, and the reactions are funny. They think I am an evil bitch.

918 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:44am

re: #830 Ford_Prefect Keep 'em coming Ford!
Here's one I'm sure you'll enjoy:
"It can probably be shown with facts and figures that there is no such thing as a native American Criminal class. Congresss exculed, of course."

919 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:55am

re: #900 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Periwinkle is starting to bud in the front yard. Love the color.

Stop it, stop it. Winter can't be over. We had a dry winter in the Denver area. Mountains got what they needed for the ski industry, but the fronts just keep breaking up as they spilled over the divide.

I want one good dumper before the spring.

920 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:09:29am

re: #897 MandyManners

The blooms from the pear tree nearest this window seem to poke their heads through the glass! When the sun hits it just so, it's blinding.


Ha, during part of the spring cleaning I mentioned I ran across a window in a bedroom I don't use much. A fern had grown is about 2 ft! Yes, it has been a long time between cleanings.

921 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:09:33am

re: #902 Panhandler

So those with "enhancements" will also have to pay a value added tax?

silicon/botox tax

922 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:09:46am

re: #890 realwest

Well SOME Brits will go ga-ga over Obama's visit. Goerge Galloways constituents in Betheln Green for example. Personally I hope the Queen makes him wait for 20 minutes or so and then just tells him she had some important things to attend to!

Whats the over & under of Michelle asking the Queen for one of her jewels?

923 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:09:50am

re: #886 MJ

AMBASSADOR FELTMAN:
....In terms of Syria, FTO, et cetera, as I said, we’ve got concerns with Syria, I’m sure Syria has concerns with us.

Moral equivalence once again rears its ugly head. He is saying that our concerns about Syria's support of Iran and terrorists is on the same plane as their concern about us supporting Israel.

924 Killer Tomato  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:10:10am

re: #899 Texas Heathen

Did anybody else see this article.
The part that really makes my blood boil is right here.


UM Yes I think that the POTUS admitting he is a socialist would be very wrong you f*ing idiot.

Must be some kind of new system in place - the POTUS gets a 'do-over' if he isn't happy with the answer he gave during a press conference.
change!

925 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:10:16am

re: #831 albusteve
Wait until you get to the part of his life when he was living in Conn. and insisted on paying the full tuition room and board for Yale's very first Black student and his reasons for doing so.
It'll make you proud that Twain was an American.

926 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:10:18am

Media Spins Obama's Withdrawal Of Troops That Were Planned Months Ago

Obama's "new" Iraq policy, was actually the old Bush policy.

(No) Change and Hope (nobody notices)

927 MJ  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:10:20am

So the Senate Foreign Relations Committee meets last week and invites just two Jew-haters to speak on it's "U.S. Strategy Regarding Iran" hearing:


Another point of controversy last week was Thursday's meeting of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, where Zbigniew Brzezinski and Brent Scowcroft -- former national security advisers for Presidents Carter and George H.W. Bush, respectively -- were the sole witnesses for the "U.S. Strategy Regarding Iran" hearing. "When Brzezinski used his short opening statement to say Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should be cautious about listening to Israel's ideas, the red flag really went up," one Jewish leader told the Jerusalem Post afterward.

[Link: thehill.com...]

928 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:10:23am

re: #920 turn

Asparagus fern, that shit has sharp thorns.

929 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:10:30am

re: #905 turn

Hey all you patriots out there in lizard land, you have got to watch the movie "Taking Chance". I watched it Saturday on cable. OMG I teared up the whole time, absolutely gripping.

One of the best movies that I have ever seen.

930 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:11:02am

re: #903 realwest

Good morning to you. Yes indeed you are correct about Huck Finn being one of the greatest works of American literature. Yet schoolboards across the country - going back maybe two years now - were trying to ban Huckleberry Finn because the novel used the "N" word I think about 8 times.
That's no joke - I've never written more letters to more school boards or politicians than I have over that one issue.

Good morning real. I taught the novel during my brief career as a HS English teacher. I deliberately kept using the word until one kid finally cracked and got pissed and then we had a very good conversation about race and language and how it has changed over time. We were not cowards that day.

931 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:11:09am

re: #913 OldLineTexan

"'I steal no gold, I drink no beer,
I eat no kind of meat;
but People slam their doors in fear,
whenever they hear my feet."

*Sniff* It's like you know me. *Wipes away a tear*

932 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:11:19am

re: #924 Killer Tomato

Must be some kind of new system in place - the POTUS gets a 'do-over' if he isn't happy with the answer he gave during a press conference.
change!

"Let me get back to you sweetie."

933 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:11:50am

re: #910 avanti

OK, what is the point ? I get that BHO made a protocol mistake last week. I just don't think it will have a lasting effect on our relationship with the Britts. It reminds me of the Mission Accomplished banner dust up. I'm sure GW did not come up with the idea, nor was it meant to mean what the left spun it to mean, yet he got the blame. I don't think BHO planned to give the British a snub, his acting protocol director screwed up, and the buck stops with him, but like the banner, it not as big a deal as its been made out to be.
He'll visit Great Britain next month, and do his rock star thing and all will be forgiven.

934 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:11:55am

re: #850 albusteve

I cannot believe there are NO weapons aboard....and wtf is this ship out there with no escort at all?

Here's the ship

935 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:12:00am

Don't criticize the One

/painting a pretty picture

Yes, I know the source, but still...lol

936 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:12:08am

re: #925 realwest

Wait until you get to the part of his life when he was living in Conn. and insisted on paying the full tuition room and board for Yale's very first Black student and his reasons for doing so.
It'll make you proud that Twain was an American.

I'm gonna get after it later today on the net....can you recommend a bio of him?

937 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:12:18am

re: #900 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Periwinkle is starting to bud in the front yard. Love the color.

Real men don't say "Periwinkle". We say "Vinca minor".

938 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:03am

re: #906 bellamags

We had a cat that would try to cover her mess up with AIR. She would go through the motions, but never touch the litter with her paws. She was a faker. LOL.

You weren't supposed to notice that poop!

939 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:05am

re: #933 turn

lol

940 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:07am

re: #918 realwest

"The government of my country snubs honest simplicity, but fondles artistic villainy, and I think I might have developed into a very capable pickpocket if I had remained in the public service a year or two."
- Roughing It, Mark Twain

941 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:18am

re: #857 Walter L. Newton
Why Walter - how elegant for you to say - and, of course, spot fucking on!

942 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:18am

re: #915 Creeping Eruption

/Don't they get a religious exemption anyway?

Yes, Rastafarian relief.

943 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:25am

re: #929 opnion

One of the best movies that I have ever seen.

whoa!....really?...what's it about?

944 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:45am

re: #910 avanti

OK, what is the point ? I get that BHO made a protocol mistake last week. I just don't think it will have a lasting effect on our relationship with the Britts. It reminds me of the Mission Accomplished banner dust up. I'm sure GW did not come up with the idea, nor was it meant to mean what the left spun it to mean, yet he got the blame. I don't think BHO planned to give the British a snub, his acting protocol director screwed up, and the buck stops with him, but like the banner, it not as big a deal as its been made out to be.
He'll visit Great Britain next month, and do his rock star thing and all will be forgiven.

I will talk slowly to make the point...

O B A M A a n d h i s a d m i n i s t r a t i o n d o n o t

k n o w w h a t t h e y a r e d o i n g.

Got that. They are children playing like adults. The man is even having trouble making it through a full day of work without complaining that he is tired.

945 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:54am

re: #938 MandyManners

You weren't supposed to notice that poop!

yeah, she was a democat.

946 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:55am

re: #919 Walter L. Newton

I want one good dumper before the spring.

Talk to FBV's dog.

947 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:59am

re: #907 JohnAdams

Great.

Yeah, the complete destruction of our national economy is a pretty steep price to pay for the sake of making a point.

Don't forget our foreign relations.

948 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:14:05am

re: #935 rightside

Ha! Beat you to it!

re: #769 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Heh...Charles is Wikipedia?

Wikipedia scrubs Obama eligibility:
Mention of citizenship issues deleted in minutes, 'offending' users banned

Yay, Wikipedia (for once).

Of course, they also remove any mentions of BHO's associations, etc.

949 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:14:45am

re: #929 opnion

One of the best movies that I have ever seen.

For me the tears started with the stewardess on the airplane. Don't want to give too much away.

950 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:15:06am

re: #943 albusteve

Taking Chance

951 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:15:35am

Hollywad celebrates a monster's birthday.

oooo but he's a good ol' left-wing monster - so he's cool.

952 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:16:11am

re: #917 bellamags

true that. Have you ever said that to anyone? I have, and the reactions are funny. They think I am an evil bitch.

I used to have this Orwell quote above my desk:

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

953 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:16:18am

re: #944 Walter L. Newton

I will talk slowly to make the point...

O B A M A a n d h i s a d m i n i s t r a t i o n d o n o t

k n o w w h a t t h e y a r e d o i n g.

Got that. They are children playing like adults. The man is even having trouble making it through a full day of work without complaining that he is tired.

Kids playing dress-up in their parents room. Trying on suits, shoes, hats, gloves. Nothing really fits, but they try it on anyway. They walk around the house, stumbling. Still not realizing everything is TOO BIG and TOO GROWN-UP for them to handle.

954 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:16:37am

re: #939 bellamags

I thought over the weekend that this is the best way to deal with the guy, maybe it will be a race to see who stikes him out first.

955 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:01am

re: #948 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good spot, missed that one earlier! Must have been getting a tofu bagel.

956 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:07am

re: #952 JohnAdams

I used to have this Orwell quote above my desk:

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

oooooooo. I LIKE that.

957 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:10am

re: #886 MJ Excellent comment MJ - reported it to Charles for a possible thread.

958 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:14am

re: #950 Kenneth

Taking Chance

thank you kindly....will look at the vids later

959 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:36am

And people wonder why Britain is headed in the direction it is: Isn't Auschwitz the name of a beer?

960 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:45am
961 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:18:05am

re: #905 turn

Hey all you patriots out there in lizard land, you have got to watch the movie "Taking Chance". I watched it Saturday on cable. OMG I teared up the whole time, absolutely gripping.

Good to know - I caught the last 20 minutes or so about a week ago and asked if anyone here had seen it and recommend. My patience has been rewarded.

962 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:18:40am

Wall Street was right.

963 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:18:51am

re: #951 FrogMarch

Hollywad celebrates a monster's birthday.

oooo but he's a good ol' left-wing monster - so he's cool.

Here's a left wing monster....

964 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:18:56am

re: #960 MandyManners

Did someone say "periwinkle"?

No twirling in the periwinkle!

965 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:00am

re: #940 Ford_Prefect

"The government of my country snubs honest simplicity, but fondles artistic villainy, and I think I might have developed into a very capable pickpocket if I had remained in the public service a year or two."
- Roughing It, Mark Twain

Oh, I like that, Ford...and how true.

Good morning, Lizard Clan!

966 tackle  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:08am

re: #953 bellamags

Kids playing dress-up in their parents room. Trying on suits, shoes, hats, gloves. Nothing really fits, but they try it on anyway. They walk around the house, stumbling. Still not realizing everything is TOO BIG and TOO GROWN-UP for them to handle.

I was thinking about all of the screw-ups, large and small, of this administration and wondering how he'd be treated differently if he was white or republican.

On a related thought, I'd like to be a fly on the wall at the Bush ranch.

967 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:30am

re: #944 Walter L. Newton

I will talk slowly to make the point...

O B A M A a n d h i s a d m i n i s t r a t i o n d o n o t

k n o w w h a t t h e y a r e d o i n g.

Got that. They are children playing like adults. The man is even having trouble making it through a full day of work without complaining that he is tired.

I think FCBBHO knows *exactly* what he's doing. You don't fuck up the economy or diplomatic protocol as consistently as he has by accident. This ain't slipping on a banana peel.

968 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:45am

re: #956 bellamags

oooooooo. I LIKE that.

A friend of mine constantly reminds me that I'm too black and white, and I tell him that when the shit finally hits the fan, it's usually the black and white people who get the job of cleaning it all up.

969 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:53am

re: #951 FrogMarch

Hollywad celebrates a monster's birthday.

oooo but he's a good ol' left-wing monster - so he's cool.

What did Mary Jo Kopechne have to say?

970 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:06am

re: #938 MandyManners

You weren't supposed to notice that poop!

bella's cat is Barack Obama?

/

971 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:13am

re: #965 scottishbuzzsaw

Hi Scottish! long time no see!

972 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:25am

re: #961 Leonidas Hoplite

Good to know - I caught the last 20 minutes or so about a week ago and asked if anyone here had seen it and recommend. My patience has been rewarded.

I really think the movie could be considered a test of your patriotism, if you don't tear up you fail.

973 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:38am

re: #925 realwest

Wait until you get to the part of his life when he was living in Conn. and insisted on paying the full tuition room and board for Yale's very first Black student and his reasons for doing so.
It'll make you proud that Twain was an American.

His house in Hartford is a must see if anyone comes this way.

974 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:45am

re: #963 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here's a left wing monster....

We did notice our "Ear Leader" wasn't too tired to attend Teddy's party.

975 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:57am

re: #952 JohnAdams

Famous misquotation:

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

* Alternative: "We sleep safely at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would harm us."
* In his 1945 "Notes on Nationalism", Orwell claimed that the statement, "Those who ‘abjure’ violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf" was a "grossly obvious" fact. "Notes on Nationalism"
* Notes: allegedly said by George Orwell although there is no evidence that Orwell ever wrote or uttered either of these versions of this idea. They do bear some similarity to comments made in an essay that Orwell wrote on Rudyard Kipling, when quoting from one of his poems. Orwell did write, in his essay on Kipling, that the latter's "grasp of function, of who protects whom, is very sound. He sees clearly that men can only be highly civilized while other men, inevitably less civilized, are there to guard and feed them." (1942)
o "Yes, making mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep" - Rudyard Kipling (Tommy)
o "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it." - Aaron Sorkin (A Few Good Men)
* Alternative: "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." - Winston Churchill (miscellaneous quotation, no date)

976 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:33am

re: #968 Walter L. Newton

A friend of mine constantly reminds me that I'm too black and white, and I tell him that when the shit finally hits the fan, it's usually the black and white people who get the job of cleaning it all up.

Heh. how true. (eeeww)

977 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:38am

re: #908 Beach Lover
Hey {Beach Lover} - well you're tin foil is showing a little - but frankly not a helluva lot. I used to think he was deliberately assisting in tanking the US economy so he'd look better when he rode in and solved everything. Now I'm afraid the stupid pos just doesn't know how to solve ANY of our economic woes.
This is sorta "Governing 101" a class that Obama wasn't even enrolled in, much less being "present" 98% of the time.

978 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:44am

re: #971 rightside

Hi Scottish! long time no see!

Mornin' rightside! How are you doing?

979 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:51am

re: #967 MandyManners

I think FCBBHO knows *exactly* what he's doing. You don't fuck up the economy or diplomatic protocol as consistently as he has by accident. This ain't slipping on a banana peel.

I'm glad I'm not the only paranoid one.
;-)

980 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:22am

re: #970 OldLineTexan

bella's cat is Barack Obama?

/

What did bella's cat ever do to you?

981 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:24am

re: #964 jcm

No twirling in the periwinkle!

Who's twirling? I'll be napping.

982 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:25am

re: #965 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh, I like that, Ford...and how true.

Good morning, Lizard Clan!

Morning scotti, I didn't see that quote upthread but isn't it a perfect description of the contrast between O and Bush?

983 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:27am

With the Russian button fiasco last week, I'm wondering when the 0bama administration will decide to launch a new relationship with Iran or North Korea.

984 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:28am

re: #962 FrogMarch

Wall Street was right.

Neil seems pretty tough....I catch him on the net here and there...I like his attack with class mode

985 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:49am

re: #963 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here's a left wing monster....

Sinister sauce. sounds like Teddy's gene pool.

986 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:23:00am

re: #965 scottishbuzzsaw

Morning Scottish.

987 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:23:36am

re: #979 jcm

I'm glad I'm not the only paranoid one.
;-)

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they're not out to get you.

988 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:23:49am

re: #963 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here's a left wing monster....

Here's the Olber-monster!

989 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:23:52am

re: #922 opnion OVer/under is 55/45 and the folks in Lost Wages are surpised at the action they're getting on that line!

990 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:24:16am

re: #981 MandyManners

Who's twirling? I'll be napping.

Whew, when you twirl I get heart palpations!

991 onslow  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:24:20am
992 Amer-I-Can  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:24:27am

re: #951 FrogMarch

Hollywad celebrates a monster's birthday.

oooo but he's a good ol' left-wing monster - so he's cool.

Is it just me or does every picture of Ted Kennedy look like his head is about to explode?

Happy Birthday you sodden old shit bag...

993 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:25:08am

re: #990 jcm

Whew, when you twirl I get heart palpations!

They have meds for that nowadays.

994 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:25:15am

re: #982 turn

Morning scotti, I didn't see that quote upthread but isn't it a perfect description of the contrast between O and Bush?

Indeed.

How are you doing today? How's your family?

995 bellamags  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:25:58am

bbiab. speaking of heart palpatations, i need to go outside. i have had too much coffee.

996 yma o hyd  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:25:59am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Another stormy day, weather-wise certainly ...

Here's a pretty upsetting report of that Davis Cup meeting in Sweden:

Sad moment in Sweden

Its a report by one of the Israeli tennis players.

997 rightside  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:26:36am

re: #978 scottishbuzzsaw

Great thanks! How are you?

998 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:26:47am

re: #988 JohnAdams

GAH!

999 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:27:02am

re: #940 Ford_Prefect

"...no country can be well governed unless its citizens as a body keep religiously before their minds that they are the guardians of the law and that the law officers are only the machinery for its execution, nothing more."
- The Gilded Age, Mark Twain

Did I mention that I share a birthday with Mark twain? Of course he is younger than me.

1000 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:27:16am

re: #991 onslow

McClatchy to cut 1,600 jobs, lower salaries

The Bee is my hometown paper, canceled my subscription 15+ year ago. Ha, I used to complain it was nothing but advertising.

1001 MJ  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:27:31am

The Left and Lyndon LaRoche:

This how low the Left is willing to go. The Nation magazine, bastion of Leftist thinking, supports the terrorists at Hamas in their desire to kill Jews because Hamas is anti-Israel.
They support the antisemitism propagated by the homophobic, misogynist society which is Saudi Arabia, and they have Robert Dreyfuss on staff supporting the anti-antisemitic Chas Freeman. Who is Dreyfuss? He's the editor of the Lyndon LaRoche publication, Executive Review.

[Link: www.thenation.com...]

For more on Dreyfuss, see
[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

1002 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:27:45am

re: #997 rightside

Great thanks! How are you?

Oh, much better, thank you!

1003 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:28:23am

re: #1002 scottishbuzzsaw

Hiya Scotty!

1004 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:28:46am

Another one of those magical mystery dates 3/9/09 - The fourth root of the second digit times the fourth root of the third digit times the ratio of the second and third digit equals the first digit. Amazing. Yeah, right.

1005 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:28:48am

re: #926 Kenneth
Excellent post Kenneth - and it evidences a REAL problem we have - the MSM can't possibly die fast enough for America. The way they've covered up for Obama, created reasons for his gaffes ("he's so tired") and try to redirect thinking to foreing policy that is working - although it's Bush's foreign policy that's working which the MSM won't tell us about, is absolutely disgraceful.
Either the asshats in the MSM are deliberately covering up for Obama or they've totally lost any "journalistic" or even "intellectual" integrity at all.

1006 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:29:24am

re: #1001 MJ

Excellent find.

The Left today truly have become Anti-Semitic Fascists.

1007 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:29:48am

raining in ABQ...been about seven months with no water...

1008 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:29:50am

Bust sent back to England, Churchill feels no pain,
Feeling so much better than Gordon Brown.
Barack thumbed down AF-One, and they all climbed aboard,
And rode it all the way to Chicago town.

Michelle pulled her blackberry, out of her new Gucci purse,
Calling mom while Barack screwed the Jews.
While he sent funds to Palestine, she ordered a bottle of vintage wine,
And they sang every song that Barack knew.

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose,
And nothing is what America means to them.
Feeling good was easy, when Barack screwed the Jews,
Feeling good is good enough for him,
Good enough to fist-bump her again.

1009 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:29:58am

re: #1006 Kenneth

Excellent find.

The Left today truly have become Anti-Semitic Fascists.

Its been happening for the last 10-15 years IMHO

1010 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:30:11am
1011 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:30:14am

re: #1003 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hiya Scotty!

Good morning FBV!

1012 Golem Akbar  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:30:34am

I gotta say: good morning Lizards!
[okay then, good morning Lizards]

1013 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:30:42am

re: #994 scottishbuzzsaw

Indeed.

How are you doing today? How's your family?

I'm ok considering I'm going to be canning a guy on Thursday, thanks Scottie. But turnspawn is really beating himself up over that 502, but the turnwife is at least talking to him again. Oh man, we got like 16 letters from 502 attorneys on Saturday and the kid doesn't even live at home anymore.

1014 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:31:07am

re: #1005 realwest

They are covering up for Obama, but also for themselves. The media invested so much in the myth of Obama, they will have a very hard time admitting their mistake. The words "We screwed up!" don't come easy.

1015 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:31:32am

re: #922 opnion

Whats the over & under of Michelle asking the Queen for one of her jewels?

omg, that is a possibility. lol
"spread the jewels around"

1016 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:31:48am

Bedtime, and I've spent hours reading a lot of links posted here - thanks to everyone who posted links tonight - some very interesting reading!

Now tonight's view of OZ....

Taronga Zoo, which surely has the best view for a zoo!

And no, the roos don't have the best views in the zoo :-)

The elephants and giraffes do

Have a wonderful yesterday {everyone}!

1017 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:32:12am

re: #1013 turn

I read it four times.

Huh?

1018 Amer-I-Can  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:32:50am

re: #1007 albusteve

raining in ABQ...been about seven months with no water...

SWEET! I'm an old Rio Rancho guy myself... I remember those dry spells well.

1019 CIA Reject  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:03am

re: #1014 Kenneth

They are covering up for Obama, but also for themselves. The media invested so much in the myth of Obama, they will have a very hard time admitting their mistake. The words "We screwed up!" don't come easy.

And when they discover that they can avoid those words by flambeing BO, he's toast ...

/LOOK - OVER THERE!

1020 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:37am

re: #996 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Another stormy day, weather-wise certainly ...

Here's a pretty upsetting report of that Davis Cup meeting in Sweden:

Sad moment in Sweden

Its a report by one of the Israeli tennis players.

Morning yma, " In this respect, the best service we can do for ourselves and for the country is to win, and I believe we can do it. " Ha, there's the spirit!

1021 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:38am

re: #1014 Kenneth

They are covering up for Obama, but also for themselves. The media invested so much in the myth of Obama, they will have a very hard time admitting their mistake. The words "We screwed up!" don't come easy.

I'll settle for them telling us they are not as smart as they think they are.

1022 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:48am

If we're talking about Kennedy, you know he uses ATT cell phones-
because they have more

bars

in more places.

1023 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:49am

re: #949 turn

For me the tears started with the stewardess on the airplane. Don't want to give too much away.

It was a great disply of honor & respect, all the way around.

1024 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:34:10am

re: #951 FrogMarch
Good morning FrogMarch - from your link: "Bill Cosby, Lauren Bacall, John Williams, and Bernadette Peters"
couldn't get any A listers for Ted's belated birthday party.
They're probably all busy setting up off-shore or Swiss bank accounts now that they understand Obama's tax policy.

1025 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:34:30am

speaking of those crazy Aussies...they do this once in a while....

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

1026 onslow  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:35:32am
1028 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:35:48am

re: #1023 opnion

It was a great disply of honor & respect, all the way around.

Although I never met him, I miss Chance Phelps.

1029 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:35:52am

re: #999 Ford_Prefect

"The mania for giving the Government power to meddle with the private affairs of cities or citizens is likely to cause endless trouble, through the rivaly of schools and creeds that are anxious to obtain official recognition, and there is great danger that our people will lose our independence of thought and action which is the cause of much of our greatness, and sink into the helplessness of the Frenchman or German who expects his government to feed him when hungry, clothe him when naked, to prescribe when his child may be born and when he may die, and, in fine, to regulate every act of humanity from the cradle to the tomb, including the manner in which he may seek future admission to paradise."
--Mark Twain

It's like the man were living today.

1030 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:36:41am

re: #1018 Amer-I-Can

SWEET! I'm an old Rio Rancho guy myself... I remember those dry spells well.

indeed...not alot but we've had the driest winter on record...pretty good sno w up north and CO has alot we'll get, but rainfall counts too especially out in the wilds...you knew that of course

1031 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:36:51am

re: #1013 turn

I'm ok considering I'm going to be canning a guy on Thursday, thanks Scottie. But turnspawn is really beating himself up over that 502, but the turnwife is at least talking to him again. Oh man, we got like 16 letters from 502 attorneys on Saturday and the kid doesn't even live at home anymore.

Why are those attorneys writing to you since you're not the client?

1032 onslow  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:37:04am

re: #1027 MandyManners

Unfortunately, you are probably correct.

1033 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:37:15am

re: #1005 realwest

Excellent post Kenneth - and it evidences a REAL problem we have - the MSM can't possibly die fast enough for America. The way they've covered up for Obama, created reasons for his gaffes ("he's so tired") and try to redirect thinking to foreing policy that is working - although it's Bush's foreign policy that's working which the MSM won't tell us about, is absolutely disgraceful.
Either the asshats in the MSM are deliberately covering up for Obama or they've totally lost any "journalistic" or even "intellectual" integrity at all.

Morning real, hey read Goldberg's "Slobbering Love Affair" when you get a chance, they're covering.

1034 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:38:27am

re: #1021 soxfan4life

I'll settle for them telling us they are not as smart as they think they are.

Don't hold your breath, my friend.

1035 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:38:27am

re: #1007 albusteve

raining in ABQ...been about seven months with no water...

Glad to hear it.

1036 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:21am

re: #1029 Ford_Prefect

"The mania for giving the Government power to meddle with the private affairs of cities or citizens is likely to cause endless trouble, through the rivaly of schools and creeds that are anxious to obtain official recognition, and there is great danger that our people will lose our independence of thought and action which is the cause of much of our greatness, and sink into the helplessness of the Frenchman or German who expects his government to feed him when hungry, clothe him when naked, to prescribe when his child may be born and when he may die, and, in fine, to regulate every act of humanity from the cradle to the tomb, including the manner in which he may seek future admission to paradise."
--Mark Twain

It's like the man were living today.

Some truths are eternal. The left believes all truth is relative.

1037 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:23am

re: #962 FrogMarch Geez, from your link: "Obama's budget more than doubles the national debt held by the public, and adds more to the debt than all previous presidents -- from George Washington to George W. Bush -- combined.[emphasis realwest] and you hadda get that from a blog no less.
If Obama were a Republican, it'd a been a continuing front page story and top of the hour video for the MSM since the budget was proposed.

1038 Russkilitlover  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:32am

Good morning, everyone.

I'm a bit cranky due to the loss of an hour (I HATE that), but will get over it when I get home in daylight this evening!

Didn't get any time to check in to LGF over the weekend, so I've been reviewing the posts this morning. And what do I see? Our annointed leader is "too tired" to perform his job! This man is unfit to lead and unqualified to be anywhere near this office.

Is everyone sleeping better knowing that our enemies are watching with jaws dropped on the floor just as we are - only in their case, they can't believe their good fortune?

Good grief!

1039 yma o hyd  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:37am

re: #1020 turn

Morning yma, " In this respect, the best service we can do for ourselves and for the country is to win, and I believe we can do it. " Ha, there's the spirit!


True.
It still begs the question why the Tennis association (or whatever the name of the body is) hasn't launched massive protests - and why the Swedes haven't done anything at all, except provide police.

Where are all the Swedes who love humanity?
Are they now all Jew Haters?
I still can't get my head round this.

1040 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:52am

re: #1036 jcm

Some truths are eternal. The left believes all truth is relative.

That depends on who your relatives are.

1041 Diamond Bullet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:55am

One of the most odious NY Times articles I've ever read (and they give themselves fierce competition):

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I can't even tell if it's self-parody. Who honestly thinks this:

Speaking of violence, it’s worth recalling what Israel did in Gaza in response to sporadic Hamas rockets. It killed upward of 1,300 people, many of them women and children; caused damage estimated at $1.9 billion; and destroyed thousands of Gaza homes. It continues a radicalizing blockade on 1.5 million people squeezed into a narrow strip of land.

At this vast human, material and moral price, Israel achieved almost nothing beyond damage to its image throughout the world. Israel has the right to hit back when attacked, but any response should be proportional and governed by sober political calculation. The Gaza war was a travesty; I have never previously felt so shamed by Israel’s actions.

1042 MJ  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:40:07am

Chas Freeman's son uses the language of coded antisemitism:

"His appointment is being challenged these days by a small cabal of folks that believe first and foremost in the importance of allegiance to Israel as a core U.S. priority.

Putting aside my natural instinct as a son to want to punch some of these guys in the face for some of the things they are saying about my father, for heaven's sake, I'm more deeply angry about the lack of guile some of these people have.

Steve Rosen (what do you say about someone on indictment for espionage calling someone else un-American (ANSWER: chutzpah!), Jon Chait (who has scaled new lows); someone who used to be someone in Soviet studies named Gabriel Schoenfeld; the unpleasant Marty Peretz; and the usual lurid commentators from the comic book approach to international affairs (the nasty, narrow, dogmatic children from NRO and their ilk (although I'm glad you changed your mind about marching for Pride in Jerusalem, Jamie). Goodness! I do think it's perfectly acceptable to be more loyal to Israel, even as an American citizen. But I also think that should disqualify you from any serious discussion about American interests in the Middle East. ...

...Wish that could be said about his detractors. They are low-lives. And if you're among them and by chance read this: I still want to punch you in the face. You'd deserve it, you schmucks. "

He's a flat out Jew-hater.
[Link: www.politico.com...]

1043 Amer-I-Can  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:40:36am

re: #1030 albusteve

indeed...not alot but we've had the driest winter on record...pretty good sno w up north and CO has alot we'll get, but rainfall counts too especially out in the wilds...you knew that of course

Is Sandia dry as well? We could always count on the run off once the melt started. I haven't been back to that area in 10 years or so.

It has always been fun trying to explain the concept of "high desert" to the uninitiated.

1044 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:04am

re: #1041 Diamond Bullet

Well. It was only because of "sporadic rocket attack".

So, blame the Juice.

1045 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:11am

re: #1024 realwest

Good morning FrogMarch - from your link: "Bill Cosby, Lauren Bacall, John Williams, and Bernadette Peters"
couldn't get any A listers for Ted's belated birthday party.
They're probably all busy setting up off-shore or Swiss bank accounts now that they understand Obama's tax policy.

Hi Realwest.
No A-listers. Why would anyone want to celebrate his birthday? Answer: He's a holy left-wing icon. A left-wing icon who happened to leave a woman to die in his car. For reasons I cannot understand - Left-wing bubble-dwellers have no problem over-looking that fact.

1046 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:18am

re: #1040 Ford_Prefect

That depends on who your relatives are.

*SNORT*
*shakes coffee out of keyboard*

1047 SurferDoc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:25am

Greetings from the lovely, windswept Mojave Desert.

Are we still a Republic?

1048 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:42:42am

re: #1017 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I read it four times.

Huh?

Oh sorry, my oldest son got a DUI last week. He's a good kid, generally very responsible, and this was his first run in with the law. He blew a 0.09% and the limit is 0.08%. He thought he was fine, just had a couple of beers with clients over dinner. He thinks his chances of reducing it to a misdemeanor are good. Wasn't a good week last week.

1049 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:42:45am

Obama's budget director calls the economy "fundamentally ... weak."

You fucking moron you are supposed to say that we're at a rough spot and we will get over it, fuck you and the president you rode in on.

Sorry for the language, lizards.

1050 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:43:46am

re: #1047 SurferDoc

Greetings from the lovely, windswept Mojave Desert.

Are we still a Republic?

The 1st and 2nd Amendments are still intact......

1051 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:44:30am

re: #1010 Iron Fist

Tell a leftie that MLK was an R and watch the smoke come out their ears.

1052 Caboose  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:44:31am

"Words have no meaning; people have meanings for words."

1053 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:13am

re: #1043 Amer-I-Can

Is Sandia dry as well? We could always count on the run off once the melt started. I haven't been back to that area in 10 years or so.

It has always been fun trying to explain the concept of "high desert" to the uninitiated.

the Sandias and Monzanos got virtually no snow this year...last year there was still snow on Sandia west face in April!....but I look over at Mt Taylor and it's had good snow all season...I always worry about that maountain because it is heavily forrested and remote...if it catches fire over there it will be very difficult to deal with...NM is spooky like that...fire is evil bro

1054 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:14am

re: #1031 MandyManners

Why are those attorneys writing to you since you're not the client?

He must still be listed as living at home somewhere, or at least that's all I could figure out. Believe me, it wasn't me.

1055 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:21am

re: #1041 Diamond Bullet

sporadic Hamas rockets

So every day is 'sporadic'?

Israel has the right to hit back when attacked

how nice of him to concede this point. /

I have never previously felt so shamed by Israel’s actions.

And I have never previously felt so shamed by the Americam media's actions.

What an idiot.

1056 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:40am

re: #1054 turn

And I was thinking the mailman must have surely thought it was me.

1057 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:42am

re: #1049 Ojoe

Obama's budget director calls the economy "fundamentally ... weak."

You fucking moron you are supposed to say that we're at a rough spot and we will get over it, fuck you and the president you rode in on.

Sorry for the language, lizards.

No worries. Times like these that can make potty-mouths of us all. ;>)

1058 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:46:29am

re: #1041 Diamond Bullet

One of the most odious NY Times articles I've ever read (and they give themselves fierce competition):

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I can't even tell if it's self-parody. Who honestly thinks this:

Sadly, its not parody. People feel very strongly when Jews have the temerity to hit back. Didn't you know that Jews are just supposed to line up like lambs to the slaughter?

/

1059 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:47:30am

re: #1049 Ojoe

Obama's budget director calls the economy "fundamentally ... weak."

You fucking moron you are supposed to say that we're at a rough spot and we will get over it, fuck you and the president you rode in on.

Sorry for the language, lizards.

re: #1049 Ojoe

Obama's budget director calls the economy "fundamentally ... weak."

You fucking moron you are supposed to say that we're at a rough spot and we will get over it, fuck you and the president you rode in on.

Sorry for the language, lizards.

Peter Orszag does not understand what constitutes the fundamental economy. The bedrock is the brains, labor and sweat of the workforce. That has not changed. What has changed is the confidence of those who can invest and drive the economy forward. They don't have confidence that government will allow a return on their investment.

1060 Golem Akbar  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:47:30am

re: #1049 Ojoe

Obama's budget director calls the economy "fundamentally ... weak."

You fucking moron you are supposed to say that we're at a rough spot and we will get over it, fuck you and the president you rode in on.

Sorry for the language, lizards.

Take a chillpill. [/me, I'm practicing trying to stay calm in the midst of despair]

1061 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:47:34am

re: #1039 yma o hyd

Before I read that link I had no idea things had gotten that bad in Sweden.

1062 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:19am

re: #1048 turn

Oh sorry, my oldest son got a DUI last week. He's a good kid, generally very responsible, and this was his first run in with the law. He blew a 0.09% and the limit is 0.08%. He thought he was fine, just had a couple of beers with clients over dinner. He thinks his chances of reducing it to a misdemeanor are good. Wasn't a good week last week.

He might want to ask his attorney about getting it dismissed with pre-trial diversion if that's possible in his state.

1063 yma o hyd  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:30am

re: #1049 Ojoe

Obama's budget director calls the economy "fundamentally ... weak."

You fucking moron you are supposed to say that we're at a rough spot and we will get over it, fuck you and the president you rode in on.

Sorry for the language, lizards.

From that link:

'Orszag also pleaded for patience as the 6-week-old administration looks for solutions: "Well, I think fundamentally, the economy is weak. Job losses began in January of 2008. The stock market started declining October 2007. This has been, you know, eight years in the making, and again, it's going to take some time to work our way out of it." '

Yep - its all the fault of Bush, and PB0 will need four terms in office to put it right ...

/////

1064 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:50am

I've been using the "f" word a lot more here lately.

Better than the "0" word, I guess.

1065 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:54am

re: #1054 turn

He must still be listed as living at home somewhere, or at least that's all I could figure out. Believe me, it wasn't me.

I hope you know not to open those letters.

1066 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:58am

re: #1060 Golem Akbar

LOL!

Foggy there today!

1067 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:49:08am

re: #1061 turn

Before I read that link I had no idea things had gotten that bad in Sweden.

and here I drive a fucking Saab: Morally and financially bankrupt. Great - a two-fer!

1068 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:49:34am

Books? I have no problem with books. I just burn the ones I disagree with....no problem.

/

1069 Golem Akbar  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:21am

re: #1063 yma o hyd

From that link:

'Orszag also pleaded for patience as the 6-week-old administration looks for solutions: "Well, I think fundamentally, the economy is weak. Job losses began in January of 2008. The stock market started declining October 2007. This has been, you know, eight years in the making, and again, it's going to take some time to work our way out of it." '

Yep - its all the fault of Bush, and PB0 will need four terms in office to put it right ...

/////

What happened to the coup Bush was going to make and become Ruler For Life? The left said it was going to happen, and I of course believe them. (///)

1070 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:40am

re: #1054 turn

He must still be listed as living at home somewhere, or at least that's all I could figure out. Believe me, it wasn't me.

I didn't mean to be a snot in my No. 1065 but, client/attorney confidentiality was hammered into me during paralegal school and, I was fanatical about it during my divorce.

1071 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:43am

re: #1068 Desert Dog

Books? I have no problem with books. I just burn the ones I disagree with....no problem.

/

Evil Ink Books...kill 'em all!

1072 subsailor68  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:49am

Morning all!

Interesting little piece:

Pentagon: Chinese vessels harassed Navy ship

Impeccable's mission is "to directly support the Navy by using both passive and active low frequency sonar arrays to detect and track undersea threats." (from Wiki).

Hmm...I wonder if the five Chinese vessels were trying distract her while one of their subs transited the area?

Here's a picture of her: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

From that same Wiki article, it took NINE years to get from keel being laid to delivery to the Navy. Far too long. Hell, we went from keel to commissioning of our nuclear attack sub in 4 years!

1073 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:51am

re: #999 Ford_Prefect
"Did I mention that I share a birthday with Mark twain? Of course he is younger than me."
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

1074 rawmuse  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:01am

Good morning Lizards. I just now found out that you can join or merge multiple pdf docs in Preview for the mac OSX 10.5. I don't have to spend $699 for Acrobat Pro.

It's the little things that get me excited anymore.

1075 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:09am

Here we go, Zero speaks and the DJIA starts dropping. STFU and STFD you asshole!

1076 Golem Akbar  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:20am

re: #1066 Ojoe

LOL!

Foggy there today!


Yeah and cloudy here. [summer's just around the corner]

1077 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:25am

re: #1062 MandyManners

He might want to ask his attorney about getting it dismissed with pre-trial diversion if that's possible in his state.

He did, and good news is 90% of the time they offer the plea rather than go to trial. Turns out he went to school with the son of the attorney he chose and turnspawn2 goes to school with his other son. So I think there is a good Jesuit connection there. Fees are $1000 all in unless it goes to trial then ca-ching!

1078 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:52:04am

re: #1065 MandyManners

I hope you know not to open those letters.

I'm giving them to him, but why not?

1079 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:52:23am

re: #1071 albusteve

Evil Ink Books...kill 'em all!

We need Firemen to burn them all!

1080 UberInfidel67  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:52:51am

The O is now on Fox bragging about stem cell research.

1081 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:53:16am

re: #1080 UberInfidel67

O Moron

1082 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:53:47am

re: #1079 jcm

We need Firemen to burn them all!

FIREMEN MAN YOUR TORCHES!

1083 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:53:56am

re: #1070 MandyManners

I didn't mean to be a snot in my No. 1065 but, client/attorney confidentiality was hammered into me during paralegal school and, I was fanatical about it during my divorce.

What confidentiality? Surely there is public record he got nailed. No offense taken.

1084 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:53:58am

re: #1073 realwest

"Did I mention that I share a birthday with Mark twain? Of course he is younger than me."
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

Thanks. Looking at those guys made me feel much younger.

1085 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:54:02am

BBL

1086 UberInfidel67  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:54:23am

Could they use aborted babies as stem cell factories? Is that legal? Ethical? WTF?

He is saying that the research will NOT be used for cloning though. Gee, good thing we can trust him/

1087 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:54:36am

re: #1080 UberInfidel67

The O is now on Fox bragging about stem cell research.

He's an idiot. He's spending more time and attention to this crappola than to what really counts right now; fixing the economy. Obama is Herbert Hoover all over again, but without Hoover's redeeming qualities.

1088 phoenixgirl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:54:55am

i guess he didn't get the memo that stem cells from alive, walking around living beings work and the ones from the "left over" embryos not so much. science over morals.

1089 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:55:07am

re: #1082 albusteve

FIREMEN MAN YOUR TORCHES!

I read that in a book somewhere......

1090 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:55:30am

re: #1072 subsailor68

It's called red tape, and with O's plans for this country that takes on a whole new meaning.

1091 phoenixgirl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:55:46am

more like agenda over common sense

1092 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:55:48am

re: #1028 soxfan4life

Although I never met him, I miss Chance Phelps.

Yup, let's you know what kind of young people that we produce.
It is a very touching movie.

1093 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:55:56am

re: #1088 phoenixgirl

i guess he didn't get the memo that stem cells from alive, walking around living beings work and the ones from the "left over" embryos not so much. science over morals.

With Barack, it's all about the ideology. Science and morals be damned for him.

1094 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:56:23am

re: #1073 realwest

"Did I mention that I share a birthday with Mark twain? Of course he is younger than me."
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

cool vid...thanks for that dude

1095 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:56:34am

re: #1083 turn

What confidentiality? Surely there is public record he got nailed. No offense taken.

Communication between the client and his attorney confidentiality is NOT a matter of public record. I'm very serious about this.

1096 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:56:53am

re: #1088 phoenixgirl

i guess he didn't get the memo that stem cells from alive, walking around living beings work and the ones from the "left over" embryos not so much. science over morals.

commies have no morals.

1097 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:06am

re: #1080 UberInfidel67

The O is now on Fox bragging about stem cell research.

And the DOW just took a downturn after being slightly up. Guy is the Kiss "O" Death.

1098 Golem Akbar  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:21am

re: #1087 Honorary Yooper

He's an idiot. He's spending more time and attention to this crappola than to what really counts right now; fixing the economy. Obama is Herbert Hoover all over again, but without Hoover's redeeming qualities.


I liken him more to Jimmy Carter, but , to each his own (simile).

1099 JimmyTheClaw  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:32am

A manager at Wal-Mart had the
task of hiring someone to fill a job opening. After
sorting through a stack of resumes he found four people
who were equally qualified. He decided to call the four in
and ask them only one question. Their answer would
determine which of them would get the job.

The day came and as the four sat around the conference room table, the interviewer asked, 'What is the fastest thing you know of?'

The first man replied, 'A THOUGHT.' It just
pops into your head. There's no warning.

'That's very good!' replied the interviewer. 'And, now you sir?', he asked the second man.

'Hmmm....let me see 'A blink! It comes and goes and you don't know that it ever happened. A BLINK is the fastest thing I know of.'


'Excellent!' said the interviewer. 'The blink of
an eye, that's a very popular cliche for speed.' He then
turned to the third man, who was contemplating his
reply.

'Well, out at my dad's ranch, you step out of the house and on the wall there's a light switch. When you flip that
switch, way out across the pasture the light on the barn
comes on in less than an instant. 'Yep, TURNING ON A LIGHT is the fastest thing I can think of'.

The interviewer was very impressed with the third answer and thought he had found his man. 'It 's hard to beat the speed of light,' he said.

Turning to BUBBA, the fourth and final man,
the interviewer posed the same question.

Old Bubba replied, 'After hearing the previous three answers, it's obvious to me that the fastest thing known is DIARRHEA.'

'WHAT!?' said the interviewer, stunned
by the response.

'Oh sure', said BUBBA. 'You see,
the other day I wasn't feeling so good, and I ran for the
bathroom, but before I could THINK, BLINK, or TURN ON THE LIGHT, I had already pooped my pants.'

BUBBA is now the new greeter at a Wal-Mart near you!

You probably will think of this every time you enter a
Wal-Mart from now on!

1100 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:39am

re: #1092 opnion

Yup, let's you know what kind of young people that we produce.
It is a very touching movie.


The fact that I was priveledged enough to train and lead young men and women like him is one of the greatest highlights of my life.

1101 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:45am

re: #1014 Kenneth
Oh those won't be the words, my friend, the words will be "Obama screwed up so badly what with a Democratic Congress and a mandate from the voters" - they won't be afraid to go after him and when payback comes from the MSM it's gonna be a bitch.

1102 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:47am

re: #1069 Golem Akbar

What happened to the coup Bush was going to make and become Ruler For Life? The left said it was going to happen, and I of course believe them. (///)

I'm afraid 0bama will try it.

1103 badger1970  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:58am

re: #1077 turn

He did, and good news is 90% of the time they offer the plea rather than go to trial. Turns out he went to school with the son of the attorney he chose and turnspawn2 goes to school with his other son. So I think there is a good Jesuit connection there. Fees are $1000 all in unless it goes to trial then ca-ching!

In Texas, there are more fees and extras such as a $1000/year license for three years, mandatory weekend "Life Steps" classes, "donations" to Crime Stoppers and Air Life EMS services, probation fees and a night with hypocritical MADD oh and community service.

1104 UberInfidel67  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:58:14am

re: #1093 Honorary Yooper
Funny you should day that! He claims American science will be led by actual science and not ideology. God I hate this man and what he is.

1105 Amer-I-Can  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:58:33am

re: #1053 albusteve

I hear ya! I used to take my kids to the peak by going up through Placitas and then taking the forest loop around the east side of the peak. You could see where "small" fires had caught and swept a couple hundred to maybe a thousand acres. I'd hate to see it catch if it is so dry, the winds would make it deadly.

1106 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:59:02am

re: #1097 Wyatt Earp

And the DOW just took a downturn after being slightly up. Guy is the Kiss "O" Death.

At this point I don't think he even needs to speak. Wall Street just needs to hear that he might stick his head out and look around and the DOW drops.

1107 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:59:37am

re: #999 Ford_Prefect

Did you know that you also share your birthday with Winston Churchill, in that case?

Nice company.

1108 UberInfidel67  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:59:41am

"Thank you bery much my friends, let's go sign this thing."

1109 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:00am

re: #1086 UberInfidel67

Could they use aborted babies as stem cell factories? Is that legal? Ethical? WTF?

He is saying that the research will NOT be used for cloning though. Gee, good thing we can trust him/

This whole "lifting Bush's ban" is a whole lot of to do about nothing. The science has since progressed to the point that adult cells can be coaxed into just about anything, no need for embryos. The the MSM portrays the situation as "potentially opening up the possibilitiy of all these cures" when they aren't actually referring to the lifting but the technology itself. spit

1110 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:20am

re: #1029 Ford_Prefect
Just perfect Ford! I've reported that in the (probably vain) hope that Charles will use that as an introduction to a thread on the Nanny State steamrolling our way.

1111 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:24am

re: #1095 MandyManners

Communication between the client and his attorney confidentiality is NOT a matter of public record. I'm very serious about this.

I think all the mail they got were probably advertisements. Most firms that handle this kind of work (and personal injury) have someone who culls through the police records for the week and finds the dui's auto accidents, etc., and send out mailings. Happens when I get speeding tickets too.

1112 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:43am

re: #1106 Ford_Prefect

At this point I don't think he even needs to speak. Wall Street just needs to hear that he might stick his head out and look around and the DOW drops.

His voice strikes fear into the hearts of traders. It's a shame it doesn't strike fear into the hearts of our enemies.

1113 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:47am

re: #1095 MandyManners

Communication between the client and his attorney confidentiality is NOT a matter of public record. I'm very serious about this.


*sigh*

1114 Amer-I-Can  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:54am

re: #1064 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've been using the "f" word a lot more here lately.

Better than the "0" word, I guess.

They've become kinda one and the same. I have a hard time using "The One" without the other.

1115 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:01:07am

re: #1086 UberInfidel67

China leads the world in stem cell research because they use aborted fetuses for raw material.

1116 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:01:10am

re: #1088 phoenixgirl

i guess he didn't get the memo that stem cells from alive, walking around living beings work and the ones from the "left over" embryos not so much. science over morals.

Exactly! Morning phoenixgirl. Any rain headed that way?

1117 Killer Tomato  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:04am
NEW YORK (AP) -- The New York Times Co. said Monday it gained more financial flexibility by selling 21 floors of its headquarters building in midtown Manhattan for $225 million. The newspaper will lease back the space from the buyer, investment firm W.P. Carey & Co., under a 15-year contract. Times shares jumped 21 cents, 5.2 percent, to $4.28 in morning trading.
1118 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:07am

re: #1091 phoenixgirl

more like agenda over common sense

An agenda that forever includes making Bush out as the bad guy.

1119 gymmom  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:16am

re: #1115 Kenneth

China leads the world in stem cell research because they use aborted fetuses for raw material.

But there have been no proven benefits from Embryonic stem cells, only Adult stem cells

1120 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:28am

re: #1114 Amer-I-Can

They've become kinda one and the same. I have a hard time using "The One" without the other.

Much like the whole i before e thing f before o hopefully it catches on.

1121 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:35am

re: #1111 Creeping Eruption

I think all the mail they got were probably advertisements. Most firms that handle this kind of work (and personal injury) have someone who culls through the police records for the week and finds the dui's auto accidents, etc., and send out mailings. Happens when I get speeding tickets too.

*jaw drop*

1122 UberInfidel67  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:53am

re: #1115 Kenneth
A "why waste the material" kind of thing, huh? My God!

1123 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:56am

re: #1107 lurking faith

Did you know that you also share your birthday with Winston Churchill, in that case?

Nice company.

I had forgotten that. Thanks for reminding me.

1124 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:02am

I was busy all weekend. Did anybody flame out? Any hot controversies?

1125 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:02am

re: #1121 MandyManners

*jaw drop*

You didn't know that?

1126 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:06am

re: #1105 Amer-I-Can

I hear ya! I used to take my kids to the peak by going up through Placitas and then taking the forest loop around the east side of the peak. You could see where "small" fires had caught and swept a couple hundred to maybe a thousand acres. I'd hate to see it catch if it is so dry, the winds would make it deadly.

I was up that road last week!...the baskside of Sandia is fairly accessable...but it takes over a lifetime to grow another forrest after a fire...two lifetimes really

1127 CIA Reject  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:33am

re: #1114 Amer-I-Can

They've become kinda one and the same. I have a hard time using "The One" without the other.


Visitors to Casa Reject these days often leave with the impression that Mrs. Reject and myself believe the President's first name to be "That Idiot".

1128 phoenixgirl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:35am

re: #1116 turn

Exactly! Morning phoenixgirl. Any rain headed that way?

looks sunny out the window my little weather icon shows rain though. we could use it but the kids are out this week and i'd prefer them outside rather than in!

1129 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:00am

re: #1039 yma o hyd
Good morning {yma} : "Where are all the Swedes who love humanity?
Are they now all Jew Haters?"
Yes, that is how it certainly appears - and right now I'm quite certain that Raoul Wallenberg is spinning in his grave.

1130 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:14am

re: #1095 MandyManners

Communication between the client and his attorney confidentiality is NOT a matter of public record. I'm very serious about this.

These letter were essentially junk mail IMO, no confidentiality at all. Oh maybe you mean me opening up his mail, never done that. I know you're serious so I better leave it at that.

1131 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:22am

re: #1112 Wyatt Earp

His voice strikes fear into the hearts of traders. It's a shame it doesn't strike fear into the hearts of our enemies.

Didn't you know? The traders are our enemies!

///

1132 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:32am

re: #1007 albusteve

Getting one of your 8 annual inches of precip? I didn't think it was monsoon season yet.

Climate chaos!
///

1133 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:05:27am

re: #1109 turn

This whole "lifting Bush's ban" is a whole lot of to do about nothing. The science has since progressed to the point that adult cells can be coaxed into just about anything, no need for embryos. The the MSM portrays the situation as "potentially opening up the possibilitiy of all these cures" when they aren't actually referring to the lifting but the technology itself. spit


You're exactly right!

1134 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:05:50am

re: #1086 UberInfidel67

Could they use aborted babies as stem cell factories? Is that legal? Ethical? WTF?

He is saying that the research will NOT be used for cloning though. Gee, good thing we can trust him/

No, embryonic stem cells come from donated embryo's left over from invetro fertilizations that would be normally be discarded.

1135 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:20am

re: #1103 badger1970

I'll have to ask him what other "punishment" he's looking at here in CA. I didn't mean to diminish the seriousness of this.

1136 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:22am

re: #1119 gymmom

But there have been no proven benefits from Embryonic stem cells, only Adult stem cells


I'd like to give you a gazillion up-dings!

1137 MJ  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:55am

re: #1129 realwest

Good morning {yma} : "Where are all the Swedes who love humanity?
Are they now all Jew Haters?"
Yes, that is how it certainly appears - and right now I'm quite certain that Raoul Wallenberg is spinning in his grave.

There's a new book available for downloaded free on the Nordic countries relations with Israel and Jews. It's quite good.


[Link: www.jcpa.org...]

1138 yma o hyd  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:07am

Here's something to gladden all your hearts on this grey Monday:

Terrier close to extinction charms Crufts to win Best in Show

That terrier is acitizen of the USA - he lives in Pennsylvania ...

Now all say 'aaaahhhhh!'

:-)

1139 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:14am

re: #1107 lurking faith

Did you know that you also share your birthday with Winston Churchill, in that case?

Nice company.

I share a birthday with Bill Clinton...aren't I lucky?

1140 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:59am

re: #1131 Ford_Prefect

Didn't you know? The traders are our enemies!

///


We have met the enemy, and he is us.
- Pogo

1141 gymmom  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:04am

re: #1109 turn

And the ban was only on federally funded research. Anyone who thought they could come up with a cure using embryonic stem cells and become rich and famous was free to fund their own research.

1142 subsailor68  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:17am

re: #1139 scottishbuzzsaw

I share a birthday with Bill Clinton...aren't I lucky?

Well, my birthday is the day Hitler offed himself. I AM lucky!

;-)

1143 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:18am

re: #1139 scottishbuzzsaw

I share a birthday with Bill Clinton...aren't I lucky?

My birthday buddie is Howlin' Wolf....heh

1144 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:34am

re: #1139 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh, you poor thing.

1145 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:58am

re: #1125 Creeping Eruption

You didn't know that?

Other than the attorneys who taught paralegal school, the only attorneys I've dealt with was the family-law attorney with whom I interned and the family-law attorneys I retained for my divorce.

1146 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:10am

re: #1111 Creeping Eruption

I think all the mail they got were probably advertisements. Most firms that handle this kind of work (and personal injury) have someone who culls through the police records for the week and finds the dui's auto accidents, etc., and send out mailings. Happens when I get speeding tickets too.

CE, we never (well almost never) get attorney advertisement - no this was from the DUI. The envelopes were marked 502, etc.

1147 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:11am

re: #1136 outsidephilly

I'd like to give you a gazillion up-dings!

I'd further point out that President Bush was the first president to actually set aside federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. He had moral and ethical concerns, which is why he limited it to only a specific number of stem cell lines. Adult stem cell research was unaffected by those limitations.

Obama is lifting the Bush era limits on embryonic stem cell research lines, but it was NEVER a ban on federal embryonic stem cell research funding, which is how the media has been portraying it.

It's all clever nonsense, and it further shows how deep in the tank the media is for Obama. Also, Obama is using this to further obscure his goals and intentions on other areas of the budget - because where exactly is the money going to come from for this and everything else on his agenda?

1148 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:36am

re: #1141 gymmom

And the ban was only on federally funded research. Anyone who thought they could come up with a cure using embryonic stem cells and become rich and famous was free to fund their own research.

The Evil George Bush denied Christopher Reeve a cure!

That's the MSM story, why bother with boring scientific facts?

1149 opnion  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:45am

re: #1093 Honorary Yooper

With Barack, it's all about the ideology. Science and morals be damned for him.

The guy supported Infanticide, denying medical care to the survivors of botched aborions!

1150 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:34am

re: #1138 yma o hyd

Here's something to gladden all your hearts on this grey Monday:

Terrier close to extinction charms Crufts to win Best in Show

That terrier is acitizen of the USA - he lives in Pennsylvania ...

Now all say 'aaaahhhhh!'

:-)

Oh what a cutie...Charmin’s squeezably soft, too! (or was that a toilet paper?)

1151 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:47am

re: #1084 Ford_Prefect
HEY! I'm their age - give or take a year or so! LOL!
Nah, I just love that song and to see and hear so many TRULY great musicians paying tribute to the best songwriter of the last 2-3 generations just sends chills up my spine and puts a HUGE SMILE on my face.
In fact, I'm gonna link it again: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

1152 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:51am

re: #1141 gymmom

And the ban was only on federally funded research. Anyone who thought they could come up with a cure using embryonic stem cells and become rich and famous was free to fund their own research.

It wasn't a ban. It was a limitation on stem cell lines. Scientists were limited to a specific number of embryonic stem cell lines eligible for federal funding. Federal funding was provided, but the anti-Bush folks want to believe it was a total ban. It wasn't. It never was.

1153 yma o hyd  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:57am

re: #1129 realwest

Good morning {yma} : "Where are all the Swedes who love humanity?
Are they now all Jew Haters?"
Yes, that is how it certainly appears - and right now I'm quite certain that Raoul Wallenberg is spinning in his grave.

Hiya, {rw}!
Yes - he must be, surely!

I think 90% of Swedes nowadays have no idea who he was, never mind what he actually did.

Raul Wallenberg

1154 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:04am

re: #1148 jcm

The Evil George Bush denied Christopher Reeve a cure!

That's the MSM story, why bother with boring scientific facts?

That's okay, Kerry and Edwards can raise him from the grave.

1155 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:13am

re: #1128 phoenixgirl

Someone from ABQ said they're getting rain upthread. Too lazy to get out the map, probably a good distance from you.

1156 UberInfidel67  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:18am

re: #1148 jcm
Oh yeah, he did invoke Christopher Reed during his speil.

1157 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:20am

Mark Twain on Congress:

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."

"All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity."

"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress."

"...I never can think of Judas Iscariot without losing my temper. To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature, Congressman."

1158 Onslow  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:30am
1159 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:12:11am

re: #1145 MandyManners

Other than the attorneys who taught paralegal school, the only attorneys I've dealt with was the family-law attorney with whom I interned and the family-law attorneys I retained for my divorce.

re: #1146 turn

CE, we never (well almost never) get attorney advertisement - no this was from the DUI. The envelopes were marked 502, etc.

Both of you are lucky (as far as not having to discard more junk mail). It is a jurisdictional thing I believe. Each State or State Bar through the rules governing Attorney conduct set rules on advertising. Here in Wisconsin, general mailings from attorneys after an event reported to the police are pretty common.

1160 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:12:27am

re: #1147 lawhawk

I'd further point out that President Bush was the first president to actually set aside federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. He had moral and ethical concerns, which is why he limited it to only a specific number of stem cell lines. Adult stem cell research was unaffected by those limitations.

Obama is lifting the Bush era limits on embryonic stem cell research lines, but it was NEVER a ban on federal embryonic stem cell research funding, which is how the media has been portraying it.

It's all clever nonsense, and it further shows how deep in the tank the media is for Obama. Also, Obama is using this to further obscure his goals and intentions on other areas of the budget - because where exactly is the money going to come from for this and everything else on his agenda?

exactly. How many jobs will be created by this federally funded crap sandwich.

1161 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:06am

re: #1156 UberInfidel67

Oh yeah, he did invoke Christopher Reed during his speil.

He didn't!

GAH!

1162 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:22am

Obama calls cloning 'dangerous, profoundly wrong'

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

He said he would ensure that the government never opens the door to the use of cloning for human reproduction.

Hum. didn't the "Government" create Fannie May and Freddie Mac to insure that there would never be a mortgage crisis?

1163 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:28am

re: #1141 gymmom

And the ban was only on federally funded research. Anyone who thought they could come up with a cure using embryonic stem cells and become rich and famous was free to fund their own research.


I'm involved with a group that raises our own money to expand our stem cell research! The research is directed by the wise staff within this organization!

1164 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:48am

re: #1154 Ward Cleaver

That's okay, Kerry and Edwards can raise him from the grave.

Check the Cook County register, might have already been done.

1165 yma o hyd  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:07am

re: #1150 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh what a cutie...Charmin’s squeezably soft, too! (or was that a toilet paper?)

Hiya, {scotti}!

Yes, to both!

:-)))

1166 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:09am

re: #1156 UberInfidel67

Oh yeah, he did invoke Christopher Reed during his speil.

Why should he. isn't Obama superman. Oh sorry that's the Messiah. Never mind.

1167 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:37am

re: #1115 Kenneth

China leads the world in stem cell research because they use aborted fetuses for raw material.

That may be true, although I did not check, but that has nothing to do with the order BHO signed today. Specifically, embryonic stem cells are removed from the inner cell mass of a 5-7 day embryo known as a blastocyst. Anything older than that are the not embryonic stem cells that we are discussing.

1168 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:38am

re: #1133 outsidephilly

Hey, even a blind squirrel get an acorn one in a while :.) YOu know what makes me sick is tha CA passed a gazzilion dollarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

1169 UberInfidel67  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:15:06am

re: #1161 jcm
Oh yes he did! I wonder if he has ever had an original thought of his own. Ya think? NAAAAHHHHHH! Now the Obamatrons will see him as the One who could have saved Superman...but BushHitler let him die!

1170 gymmom  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:15:24am

re: #1152 lawhawk

Thanks for the clarification.

1171 subsailor68  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:15:27am

re: #1158 Onslow

This will surely go over well:

Florida lawmakers ask: Can we tap prepaid college tuition fund?

Insanity! But then again, they probably got the idea from Congress - after all, they've been raiding Social Security for years. And years. And years.

1172 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:15:43am

re: #1147 lawhawk

I'd further point out that President Bush was the first president to actually set aside federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. He had moral and ethical concerns, which is why he limited it to only a specific number of stem cell lines. Adult stem cell research was unaffected by those limitations.

Obama is lifting the Bush era limits on embryonic stem cell research lines, but it was NEVER a ban on federal embryonic stem cell research funding, which is how the media has been portraying it.

It's all clever nonsense, and it further shows how deep in the tank the media is for Obama. Also, Obama is using this to further obscure his goals and intentions on other areas of the budget - because where exactly is the money going to come from for this and everything else on his agenda?

When I speak with others, pointing out the very facts you mentioned, I get a blank stare from them!

1173 Buck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:15:52am

re: #37 BlueCanuck

Perfect. I will be spreading that around to a few of my friends. Maybe they will understand a bit more about who and what I am. Had to explain to someone the other day why it was bad ettiquete to ask a soldier if they have ever killed anyone.

I don't know, it was kinda funny when Mitch asked Curly...

Mitch: Hi, Curly. Kill anyone today?
Curly: Day ain't over yet.

1174 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:16:49am

re: #1160 soxfan4life

exactly. How many jobs will be created by this federally funded crap sandwich.


exactly!

1175 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:17:37am

re: #1157 Ford_Prefect

Mark Twain on Congress:

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."

"All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity."

"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress."

"...I never can think of Judas Iscariot without losing my temper. To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature, Congressman."

And because some of us are swearing more that is our norm during these stressful times, here's another quote:

Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.
~Mark Twain

1176 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:17:39am

re: #1137 MJ Hey Thanks a lot MJ! Its true, I'm afraid, that one of the Jews best friends during the time of the Nazi's - RAOUL WALLENBERG - was Swedish and then this shit happens in his homeland. It's absolutely unacceptable and unbelievable that the Swedes have sunk to such depths of depravity.

1177 Athos  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:17:40am

re: #1147 lawhawk

Also, Obama is using this to further obscure his goals and intentions on other areas of the budget - because where exactly is the money going to come from for this and everything else on his agenda?

The ugly secret is that those of us who pay taxes, pretty much regardless of income level, are facing massive tax increases in order to partially fund his unprecedented expansion of the federal government. As has been proved in all other socialistic states, rather than rise those in poverty to the level of the 'rich', the end effect would be to lower the upper and middle classes establishing a new 'common denominator' of wealth which would be lower than today's present median income level. Furthermore, we would be locked into a central bureaucracy for virtually everything. 10% unemployment rates, 20-25% of those employed being government employees will become the norm....and innovation will be regulated out of existence.

1178 debutaunt  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:18:23am

re: #1158 Onslow

This will surely go over well:

Florida lawmakers ask: Can we tap prepaid college tuition fund?

The government funds itself with whatever the hell it can get its grubby hands on.

1179 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:18:51am

re: #1141 gymmom

And the ban was only on federally funded research. Anyone who thought they could come up with a cure using embryonic stem cells and become rich and famous was free to fund their own research.

I was building up to that point in my 1168 when my friggin wireless keyboard died. CA spend gazillions when it wasn't even necessary!

1180 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:19:57am

re: #1153 yma o hyd
Yes, you're right about that - he was a true humanitarian who probably lost his life because of his aiding the Jews during the Holocaust. I once represented his brother - maybe 20 years or so ago and remember his saying that his brother (who was considerably older) was simply doing what all Swedes would have done in his place.
Wonder what HE thinks of this disgrace.

1181 fish  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:06am

re: #1152 lawhawk

It wasn't a ban. It was a limitation on stem cell lines. Scientists were limited to a specific number of embryonic stem cell lines eligible for federal funding. Federal funding was provided, but the anti-Bush folks want to believe it was a total ban. It wasn't. It never was.

This point cannot be made often enough. I am about to wretch hearing about how "Science can now move forward because of the benevolence and forward thinking of Obama" (Paraphrased)

Reversing Bush's stem cell policy would actually mean cutting funds...

1182 Amer-I-Can  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:24am

re: #1126 albusteve

How do we send messages back and forth through the board? I have a picture I want to show you... you will appreciate it.

1183 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:31am

re: #1130 turn

These letter were essentially junk mail IMO, no confidentiality at all. Oh maybe you mean me opening up his mail, never done that. I know you're serious so I better leave it at that.

Creeping Eruption clued me in about the standard practice in No. 1025.

1184 turn  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:51am

re: #1162 Nevergiveup

Obama calls cloning 'dangerous, profoundly wrong

Well in the case of him, I completely agree.

1185 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:58am

re: #1152 lawhawk

It wasn't a ban. It was a limitation on stem cell lines. Scientists were limited to a specific number of embryonic stem cell lines eligible for federal funding. Federal funding was provided, but the anti-Bush folks want to believe it was a total ban. It wasn't. It never was.

It was effectively a ban since it was limited to existing lines, not enough good ones to do the research. We trail the world in the stem cell science because of the religious opposition to the research. I never understood the pro life position that the embryo's should be discarded rather then be used to possibly save or improve lives.

1186 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:21:01am
1187 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:26:49am

re: #1167 avanti

My comment was not about Obama's announcement. It was about China.

1188 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:27:13am
1189 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:29:48am

re: #1185 avanti

I never understood the pro life position that the embryo's should be discarded rather then be used to possibly save or improve lives.

Waste not want not!

For your edification: the pro-life position is that human embryos should not be used in this manner at all. It's all part of that "life is sacred" concept liberals & leftists have a hard time comprehending.

1190 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:31:58am

re: #1189 Kenneth

Waste not want not!

For your edification: the pro-life position is that human embryos should not be used in this manner at all. It's all part of that "life is sacred" concept liberals & leftists have a hard time comprehending.


((Kenneth))
Its words like this that remind me why I really like you!

1191 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:32:11am

re: #1187 Kenneth

OK, and you bring up a good point. We do have moral imits on what we'll do, and that is a good thing. I expect other countries will do some outrageous human cloning in the near future.

1192 Athos  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:34:12am

re: #1185 avanti

It was effectively a ban since it was limited to existing lines, not enough good ones to do the research. We trail the world in the stem cell science because of the religious opposition to the research. I never understood the pro life position that the embryo's should be discarded rather then be used to possibly save or improve lives.

What a canard. There were plenty of federally funded lines for companies to use for research - the primary reason they were not used is that results from adult stem cells and umbilical stem cells research generated far better results. Furthermore, there was nothing preventing researchers from using non-Federal dollars or embryonic stem cell lines for their research. The focus on investing into R&D is in the path that will generate the best results sooner rather than later.

This kerfuffle is just another case of a socio-political agenda that is attempted to be implemented masked around a perceived benefit.

1193 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:39:44am

re: #1185 avanti

It was effectively a ban since it was limited to existing lines, not enough good ones to do the research. We trail the world in the stem cell science because of the religious opposition to the research. I never understood the pro life position that the embryo's should be discarded rather then be used to possibly save or improve lives.

Nonsense. We do not trail the world on stem cell research because it isn't confined to embryonic stem cells, but adult stem cell research is open to anyone with a checkbook. Heck, embryonic stem cell research can go on in the US regardless of federal funding - if you want to pony up the $$$ yourself to carry out that research. The limitations were only on federal funding - the private sector was free to carry out the research so long as they adhered to the federal requirements if they wanted federal funding.

1194 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:40:19am

re: #1169 UberInfidel67

Oh yes he did! I wonder if he has ever had an original thought of his own. Ya think? NAAAAHHHHHH! Now the Obamatrons will see him as the One who could have saved Superman...but BushHitler let him die!

*THUD*

1195 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:44:50am

re: #1185 avanti

It was effectively a ban since it was limited to existing lines, not enough good ones to do the research. We trail the world in the stem cell science because of the religious opposition to the research. I never understood the pro life position that the embryo's should be discarded rather then be used to possibly save or improve lives.

We do not trail the world on stem cell research it is open to anyone with a enough money to fund such research!

And I'll quote lawhawk: ". . . , The limitations were only on federal funding - the private sector was free to carry out the research so long as they adhered to the federal requirements if they wanted federal funding."

1196 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:45:50am

re: #1189 Kenneth

Waste not want not!

For your edification: the pro-life position is that human embryos should not be used in this manner at all. It's all part of that "life is sacred" concept liberals & leftists have a hard time comprehending.

I get the concept, but week old embryo's are at best, potential life, if and when they are implanted. If you believe that invetro fertilization is immoral, and no embryo's should be produced in the lab, then I might see your position, but if they are, and are being discarded, I don't follow the logic.
If life is sacred, why is using a scheduled to be destroyed embryo to potentially save a human life wrong. Why is it more pro life to trash them ?

1197 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:53:24am

re: #1195 outsidephilly

We do not trail the world on stem cell research it is open to anyone with a enough money to fund such research!

And I'll quote lawhawk: ". . . , The limitations were only on federal funding - the private sector was free to carry out the research so long as they adhered to the federal requirements if they wanted federal funding."

The religiously inspired extreme pro life stance of many on the right is the litmus test that will only further marginalize the party IMHO. The Terri Schiavo, and embryonic stem cell issues are example of positions out of the main stream. You see black and white, I see shades of gray.

1198 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:06:04am
1199 justabill  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:10:47am

re: #174 Killian Bundy

Christopher Columbus was actually a Scotsman called Pedro Scotto, historian says

Alfonso Ensenat de Villalonga has disputed conventionally-accepted narratives on the explorer's origins - that he was the son of a weaver in Genoa, Italy, or that he was from Catalonia or Galicia in Spain.


/and he had Muslim navigators and steam turbine propulsion

What no warp drive?

"Admiral, there be whales here! "

1200 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:26:39am

re: #1196 avanti

I get the concept, but week old embryo's are at best, potential life, if and when they are implanted. If you believe that invetro fertilization is immoral, and no embryo's should be produced in the lab, then I might see your position, but if they are, and are being discarded, I don't follow the logic.
If life is sacred, why is using a scheduled to be destroyed embryo to potentially save a human life wrong. Why is it more pro life to trash them ?

You are confusing the legal definition of a "person" with the biological definition of life. Any fertilized embryo, no matter how old, is alive. So are the original sperm & egg alive.

The courts decided that unborn babies don't have rights because they are not "legal persons". That's a legal definition, not a biological one. The courts did not decide an unborn foetus is are not alive. The courts ruled that only legal persons have rights under the constitution and that unborn humans are not legal persons.

So back it up: at what point did the unborn foetus become alive? Go ahead and think about it, it's not above your pay grade, Avanti.

Biologically speaking, the embryo is alive from the very moment of conception. The cells grow, divide, consume food and produce waste products., the DNA & RNA replicate. That issue is deliberately blurred by pro-abortion activists who do not want people to clearly understand the full moral issue. No matter what way you slice it, abortion is killing a live embryo or foetus. Life is life, even if somebody else decided they don't want it around.

So the situation we have hear is one in which the courts have decided one human life form is not worthy of life and should be sacrificed for "the greater good". You can't see the slippery moral slope there?

To use our Chinese example, the organs of executed criminals are removed for use in research or transplants. The courts decided the criminals neither needed the organs, nor did they have any right to decide what they're bodies should be used for. All they know is, the gov't decided they have no right to life. Of course, in China, the gov't can decide anybody has no legal rights, or is not a "legal person".

I hope you understand now the difference between the biological fact of "life" and the legal concept of "person" and will never confuse the two again.


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