Overnight Open Thread
It is certain that a book is not harmless merely because no one is consciously offended by it.
— T. S. Eliot
It is certain that a book is not harmless merely because no one is consciously offended by it.
— T. S. Eliot
2 | BlueCanuck Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:34:19pm |
99% of books are harmless. It's usually the morons interpreting the damn things that cause the problems.
4 | Sharmuta Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:34:57pm |
If you'd like to contribute or otherwise assist in the making of the LGF Cookbook Volume 2 then be sure to click Reine's nic.
The preceding was a Lizard Service Announcement from the LGF Cookbook Volume 2 Brute Squad*
5 | BatGuano Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:35:34pm |
April is the cruelest month. Isn't that also T.S. Eliot?
7 | Alberta Oil Peon Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:35:47pm |
Don't be dropping the Oxford English Dictionary on your toe. It'd make you really smart.
8 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:36:05pm |
re: #2 BlueCanuck
Don't forget those children's books they're planning to get rid of because of lead in the in or some such. Damn shame.
9 | Sharmuta Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:36:11pm |
re: #2 BlueCanuck
99% of books are harmless. It's usually the morons interpreting the damn things that cause the problems.
I am subconsciously offended by your remark. /
10 | SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:37:11pm |
re: #5 BatGuano
April is the cruelest month. Isn't that also T.S. Eliot?
Yep. Breeding lilacs out of the dead land/Mixing memory and desire...
11 | SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:38:15pm |
This Yvonne Ridley woman is a nutcase.
12 | redc1c4 Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:38:44pm |
re: #8 Pvt Bin Jammin
Don't forget those children's books they're planning to get rid of because of lead in the in or some such. Damn shame.
simply the fact that they haven't been certified lead and (something else) free..... no proof three's a threat, but at least we protected the chilrens!
13 | redc1c4 Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:39:20pm |
re: #11 SanFranciscoZionist
This Yvonne Ridley woman is a nutcase.
i've know nutcases in my time, and you are insulting them...
14 | Erik The Red Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:39:55pm |
One summer evening during a violent thunderstorm a mother
was tucking her small boy into bed. She was about to turn off
the light when he asked with a tremor in his voice, "Mommy,
will you sleep with me tonight?" The mother smiled and gave
him a reassuring hug. "I can't dear," she said. "I have to sleep
in Daddy's room."
A long silence was broken at last by a shaken little voice
saying, "The big sissy."
15 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:41:17pm |
re: #12 redc1c4
simply the fact that they haven't been certified lead and (something else) free..... no proof three's a threat, but at least we protected the chilrens!
It's just a bunch of sh*t. I read those old books over & over, didn't hurt me.
16 | SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:41:18pm |
re: #13 redc1c4
i've know nutcases in my time, and you are insulting them...
You're right. Oh nutcases of the world, if you are on this thread, I apologize for my insulting reference to you, and ask your forgiveness...
17 | wiffersnapper Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:41:42pm |
This quote works well with the communist manifesto and any and all socialist books
18 | redc1c4 Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:41:51pm |
hey LNDT friends: not to try and drum up traffic for my "pathetic blog", but i posted the final version of last night's two part post with no paragraphs there.
you can click my name or if there's actual interest, i can dump it here.
19 | redc1c4 Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:42:13pm |
re: #15 Pvt Bin Jammin
It's just a bunch of sh*t. I read those old books over & over, didn't hurt me.
you sure about that?
/white smoke
20 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:43:59pm |
re: #19 redc1c4
LOL Maybe I am one of those nutcases, after all. Apology accepted SFZionist. :-).
21 | SixDegrees Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:44:29pm |
I see Ted Kennedy received a Profile in Courage award for his 77th birthday - no word on whether it was for drowning an innocent girl, the subsequent coverup, or just a lifetime of liver abuse.
Remarkably, President Obama was able to clear his schedule, rub the sleep out of his eyes and attend. No word on whether he presented Ted with the special edition of "The Wizard of Oz," with the uncut version of the scarecrow's song.
22 | BatGuano Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:44:36pm |
re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist
Yep. Breeding lilacs out of the dead land/Mixing memory and desire...
I remember it was the Wasteland?
23 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:45:47pm |
re: #4 Sharmuta
24 | SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:46:11pm |
re: #22 BatGuano
I remember it was the Wasteland?
"The Waste Land". Yes. God, haven't thought about that in years.
25 | Gus Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:46:57pm |
If you look here you can see Ridley with a Palestinian passport:
[Link: www.respectrenewal.org...]
The site is effectively a communist organization. Oddly enough it contains criticism of Labour and Brown and also includes an article about the Communications Workers Union (CWU) in the UK.
I'm starting to think this might be a reason behind our own socialist president's snub of Brown.
28 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:48:56pm |
re: #19 redc1c4
Checked out your blog. Loved that closing line. LOL
When is Charles going to give us the little "mood meters" like you have? LOL
29 | Sharmuta Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:51:05pm |
re: #23 Slumbering Behemoth
Indeed. Except I'm female, and tiny. Oh- and I don't have a french accent.
30 | pat Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:52:10pm |
re: #29 Sharmuta
Indeed. Except I'm female, and tiny. Oh- and I don't have a french accent.
But cute.
31 | Sharmuta Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:52:46pm |
re: #26 pat
I can do that if I am on when she is.
Not true!
You can click her nic anytime you see it/find it, whether she's logged in or not. Her nic is the Cookbook blog, and you can find information on how to submit items for the cookbook or offer assistance in producing the cookbook there.
33 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:54:17pm |
re: #18 redc1c4
Say, I wasn't aware that you had a "pathetic blog". I should get me one of those, but who would check out a blog full of links to metal?
Anyway, I took that Obama test you have linked there, and scored a 23. I am so ashamed, what am I doing wrong?
/not clingy enough?
37 | BlueCanuck Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:56:50pm |
re: #18 redc1c4
Perfect. I will be spreading that around to a few of my friends. Maybe they will understand a bit more about who and what I am. Had to explain to someone the other day why it was bad ettiquete to ask a soldier if they have ever killed anyone.
38 | NY Nana Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:57:34pm |
re: #15 Pvt Bin Jammin
Oooooh, you said 'shit!' ;)
Now wash your mouth out with soap, please, as I am too wasted to do it myself.
And to answer emails. *cough**cough*
Score: Computer 112; NY Nana and NY Grampa? Our energy, patience and first-born son, who just would not cooperate. Score=2. The youngest, who knows stuff, entered a witness protection program!
NY Grampa is a mensch...he did 99.9%of the work on my computer, and it seems to be restored after being wiped, etc. Nerve wracking experience, and he will do his later today.
/OK, which lizard did this to our computers? I want names, I tells ya!
So help me, my computer is smirking at me...I am closing down to keep it out of trouble.
Computers: Can't live without them, can't leave them with them!
I should have stuck with my Slinky.
G'nite, all! Sweet dreams!
40 | Erik The Red Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:57:59pm |
A husband wrote the following letter for his wife and left it on the dining
room table:
'To My Dear Wife,
You will surely understand that I have certain needs that you, being 54
years old, can no longer satisfy. I am very happy with you, and I value you
as a good wife. Therefore, after reading this letter I hope you will not
wrongly interpret the fact that I will be spending the evening with my
18-year-old secretary at the Comfort Inn Hotel. Please don't be upset - I
shall be back home before midnight.'
When the man came home late that night he found the following letter on the dining room table:
WIFE`S LETTER
'To My Dear Husband,
I received your letter and thank you for your honesty about my being 54
years old. I would like to take this opportunity to remind you that you are
also 54 years old. As you know, I am a math teacher at our local college. I
would like to inform you that while you're at the Comfort Inn, I will be at
the Hotel Fiesta with Michael, one of my students, who is also the assistant
tennis coach. He is young, virile, and like your secretary, he is 18 years
old.
As a successful businessman with an excellent knowledge of math, you will
understand that we are in the same situation, although with one small
difference; 18 goes into 54 a lot more times than 54 goes into 18.
Therefore I will not be home until sometime tomorrow.'
41 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:58:32pm |
re: #29 Sharmuta
Could you fake the accent? That'd be one swell brute squad.
42 | SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:58:37pm |
re: #37 BlueCanuck
Perfect. I will be spreading that around to a few of my friends. Maybe they will understand a bit more about who and what I am. Had to explain to someone the other day why it was bad ettiquete to ask a soldier if they have ever killed anyone.
Dear God. What a thing to ask a person.
43 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Mar 8, 2009 11:59:41pm |
re: #38 NY Nana
You're leaving us!?
Sounds like you've had a rough couple of days. Glad to hear you got things up and running.
Sweet dreams.
45 | Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:00:42am |
46 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:01:59am |
47 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:02:32am |
re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist
Well from the person involved it was an honest question. That was why they weren't beaten down brutally. If it had come from some one else I would have replied "Not since yesterday. Are you applying?"
48 | Rich H Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:02:47am |
To be or not to be offended by something is a personal choice. Therefore nothing can be regarded as objectively being offensive.
49 | Sharmuta Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:03:12am |
re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth
Could you fake the accent? That'd be one swell brute squad.
Eet iz like ze second nature, Dahling.
50 | BatGuano Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:03:40am |
Sherlock Holmes and Watson were out camping. Holmes awakens Watson and says," Watson, what do you see?"
Watson replies, "I see stars, Sir".
"And what can you deduce from that", asks Sherlock.
Watson says, "Well, the stars might be suns like our own".
Sherlock, "and..?
Mr. Watson says, " If they are suns like our own, perhaps they have planets like Earth orbiting them."
"And what else, Mr Watson?"
Mr. Watson says, "If there are planets like our own, perhaps there is life on them just like Earth."
Holmes asks, " And what can you infer from that?"
Mr. Watson replies," Perhaps there is intelligent life on those planets."
Holmes asks, " anything else?"
Mr. Watson, "No".
Sherlock Holmes says, " You Idiot! someone has stolen our tent!"
51 | blackpajamas Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:03:56am |
"We will retaliate (over) any act of intercepting our satellite for peaceful purposes with prompt counterstrikes by the most powerful military means,"
If countries such as the United States, Japan or South Korea try to intercept the launch, the North Korean military will carry out "a just retaliatory strike operation not only against all the interceptor means involved but against the strongholds" of the countries, it said.
What exactly is one of our American strongholds?
Oakland's "Your Black Muslim Bakery"? They'll give us a hand with that?
53 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:06:17am |
re: #47 BlueCanuck
Well from the person involved it was an honest question. That was why they weren't beaten down brutally. If it had come from some one else I would have replied "Not since yesterday. Are you applying?"
An educator at heart!
54 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:07:55am |
re: #53 SanFranciscoZionist
I try to teach those that are willing to listen. I unfortunately have a short fuse when dealing with stupidity though.
55 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:08:25am |
re: #23 Slumbering Behemoth
i went looking for Elvis Costello's "goon squad" but couldn't find it....
56 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:09:08am |
re: #51 blackpajamas
What exactly is one of our American strongholds?
Oakland's "Your Black Muslim Bakery"? They'll give us a hand with that?
They're closed. Problem not entirely solved, but I think nukes might be a slightly extreme solution. I don't wanna glow in the dark!
58 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:11:29am |
re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth
Say, I wasn't aware that you had a "pathetic blog". I should get me one of those, but who would check out a blog full of links to metal?
Anyway, I took that Obama test you have linked there, and scored a 23. I am so ashamed, what am I doing wrong?
/not clingy enough?
once you take the test, copy the html over to your blog, and you can change the numercial score to "0"..... it seems the test was set up to not ley anyone get too low, apparently so we would all be at least somewhat Ear Leader compliant.
59 | blackpajamas Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:12:03am |
O KIM JONG! my KIM JONG! your tearful trip is done;
Your state's sanity has weather’d every rack, the prize you sought is won;
Asylum's port is near, the claxon bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady contrail, the vessel grim and daring:
But O deep kimchi! kimchi! kimchi, you are in!
O the bleeding drops of MIRV,
Where in your bunker our MOAB lands,
Embracing your war'med bed.
60 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:12:27am |
61 | blackpajamas Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:14:40am |
re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist
They're closed. Problem not entirely solved, but I think nukes might be a slightly extreme solution. I don't wanna glow in the dark!
You've got a point there. Oakland is a bit close to SF. I recall during the Oakland hills fires (back in the 90's), being at a 49'er game, having the ash fall all over the stadium in San Francisco's candle stick park.
62 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:15:04am |
re: #37 BlueCanuck Even worse is when they ask for a count and get offended when you refuse to answer.
63 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:15:46am |
re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist
Dear God. What a thing to ask a person.
i had some moron ask me that just the other day, when my service came up.
i just told them "not yet, as far as i know, but i'm ready and willing if it's necessary."
they blanched and excused themselves.
64 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:15:50am |
65 | Sharmuta Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:16:15am |
re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth
It's okay. I'll let you in on a little secret.... Women don't get men either.
66 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:18:06am |
re: #47 BlueCanuck
Well from the person involved it was an honest question. That was why they weren't beaten down brutally. If it had come from some one else I would have replied "Not since yesterday. Are you applying?"
"Otis, My Man!".......
last person who asked me was a precocious child of 12ish.
/adults should know better
67 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:19:10am |
re: #63 redc1c4
i had some moron ask me that just the other day, when my service came up.
i just told them "not yet, as far as i know, but i'm ready and willing if it's necessary."
they blanched and excused themselves.
Well, hell, in that case what would they have done if you had said 'seventeen', and given them details? What answer do they hope to get?
I wonder if they're asking for reassurance, or what? Or does the mouth just move without checkage from the brain?
68 | BatGuano Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:19:25am |
re: #65 Sharmuta
It's okay. I'll let you in on a little secret.... Women don't get men either.
But women know how to manipulate men better than men know how to manipulate women.
69 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:20:24am |
re: #48 Rich H
To be or not to be offended by something is a personal choice. Therefore nothing can be regarded as objectively being offensive.
bullshit.
racism, sexism, antisemitism and islamic militancy come to mind immediately.
maybe it's just me, but i find all 4 offensive
70 | blackpajamas Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:21:37am |
What do you call a man whose ancestors manipulated women?
A vestigial manipulator.
71 | BatGuano Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:22:14am |
re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, hell, in that case what would they have done if you had said 'seventeen', and given them details? What answer do they hope to get?
I wonder if they're asking for reassurance, or what? Or does the mouth just move without checkage from the brain?
I am old enough to know many world war 2, Korean war and Vietnam vets. I have never asked that question. I allow them to talk about what they want to talk about.
72 | Sharmuta Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:22:45am |
re: #68 BatGuano
But women know how to manipulate men better than men know how to manipulate women.
Women are masters of the Jedi Mind Trick.
73 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:22:47am |
re: #54 BlueCanuck
I try to teach those that are willing to listen. I unfortunately have a short fuse when dealing with stupidity though.
at least you have a fuse......
/i just go off. %-)
74 | blackpajamas Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:23:52am |
Why is a manipulator always a manipulator? What ever happened to the womanipulators?
75 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:24:20am |
re: #62 Rustler
Even worse is when they ask for a count and get offended when you refuse to answer.
ask'em how many names are in the average phone book....
76 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:24:35am |
re: #73 redc1c4
at least you have a fuse......
/i just go off. %-)
I used to have a long fuse. Then I became a supervisor and had to deal with lots of guards. The stupid runs strong in this field.
77 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:25:02am |
re: #74 blackpajamas
Why is a manipulator always a manipulator? What ever happened to the womanipulators?
duh: sexual harassment lawsuits.
78 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:25:09am |
re: #74 blackpajamas
Why is a manipulator always a manipulator? What ever happened to the womanipulators?
They hang out with the manizers.
79 | BatGuano Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:25:12am |
re: #72 Sharmuta
Women are masters of the Jedi Mind Trick.
Women are masters of a lot of things. Men are always playing catchup. :)
80 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:25:44am |
re: #64 gmsc
I recall seeing a Curt Cobain interview where they referenced this, and when Al called up Curt to ask if he could do that parody. Curt was stoked about Weird Al doing a parody, and asked him if it would be about food.
Can't find that clip, but here's this one.
81 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:25:48am |
re: #76 BlueCanuck
I used to have a long fuse. Then I became a supervisor and had to deal with lots of guards. The stupid runs
strongwild in this field.
FTFY!
82 | Dustyvet Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:27:47am |
re: #76 BlueCanuck
I used to have a long fuse. Then I became a supervisor and had to deal with lots of guards. The stupid runs strong in this field.
As a former Operation Manager for several Security Companies, I can tell you "Dumb Guard" stories that would make your hair stand up...:)
83 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:30:44am |
re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, hell, in that case what would they have done if you had said 'seventeen', and given them details? What answer do they hope to get?
I wonder if they're asking for reassurance, or what? Or does the mouth just move without checkage from the brain?
your last guess is the most likely. the kid i spoke of spends lots of time doing on line war games, so i could kind of see that. the adult candy ass was just being a prick, so i went 11B on him.
84 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:31:52am |
I'm outta here.
Buenas noches, lagartitos.
86 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:32:35am |
re: #79 BatGuano
Women are masters of a lot of things. Men are
always playing catchupmasturbaters. :)
FTFY!
/white smoke
87 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:32:43am |
re: #82 Dustyvet
Like wise. I have learned which ones can be taught, and which ones can't. Unfortunately the smart ones here tend to bolt after about 3 months. You can always tell the smart ones. They only have to be told once.
89 | blackpajamas Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:33:02am |
re: #77 redc1c4
duh: sexual harassment lawsuits.
Ah, but even the term "sexual" harassment is non-inclusive, diminutive, and insulting, to the asexual, like Michael Moore, who's eschewed copulation to spend more time stimulating his gullet.
90 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:33:06am |
re: #69 redc1c4
I dig where you're coming from, but I still agree with Rich. Being offended is a choice, and I choose to be offended by the same crap you listed. I can't see not being offended by it, but there are numerous asshats around the world who choose not to be. Fork 'em.
92 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:33:27am |
re: #82 Dustyvet
As a former Operation Manager for several Security Companies, I can tell you "Dumb Guard" stories that would make your hair stand up...:)
not much different from "dumb GI " stories, if i had to guess, right?
93 | Dustyvet Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:33:29am |
re: #87 BlueCanuck
Like wise. I have learned which ones can be taught, and which ones can't. Unfortunately the smart ones here tend to bolt after about 3 months. You can always tell the smart ones. They only have to be told once.
Are you a member of ASIS?
95 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:34:36am |
re: #83 redc1c4
your last guess is the most likely. the kid i spoke of spends lots of time doing on line war games, so i could kind of see that. the adult candy ass was just being a prick, so i went 11B on him.
IIRC, I think I asked my dad, when I was about five or six, if a family friend who had been in Vietnam had killed people there. My dad told me that you don't ask people questions about things like that, because it's private, and you might hurt their feelings.
I got the picture.
Anyway, really going to bed. Try not to bite anyone.
96 | Dustyvet Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:34:43am |
re: #92 redc1c4
not much different from "dumb GI " stories, if i had to guess, right?
Something like that, but "contract guards" are in a league of their own.
97 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:35:40am |
re: #68 BatGuano
But women know how to manipulate men better than men know how to manipulate women.
/my apologies to the Lizardettes for that link
98 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:35:40am |
re: #89 blackpajamas
Ah, but even the term "sexual" harassment is non-inclusive, diminutive, and insulting, to the asexual, like Michael Moore, who's eschewed copulation to spend more time stimulating his gullet.
no, he's simply differently sexualized, and you're a bigot for not realizing that.
/now smile for the camera!
100 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:36:14am |
re: #93 Dustyvet
ASIS? What's that? I work for a private security company. Won't mention the name here, don't want to get in trouble.
101 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:36:28am |
re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist
IIRC, I think I asked my dad, when I was about five or six, if a family friend who had been in Vietnam had killed people there. My dad told me that you don't ask people questions about things like that, because it's private, and you might hurt their feelings.
I got the picture.
Anyway, really going to bed. Try not to bite anyone.
me? never...... %-)
weet dreams!
104 | Dustyvet Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:38:59am |
re: #100 BlueCanuck
ASIS? What's that? I work for a private security company. Won't mention the name here, don't want to get in trouble.
[Link: www.asisonline.org...]
106 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:43:30am |
re: #103 Sharmuta
Yeah, pretty much a step by step guide on how to be a dick in an argument. I prefer to stick to the topic, and focus on the details.
Still, I thought that was funny.
107 | BatGuano Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:43:39am |
108 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:46:26am |
re: #107 BatGuano
Don't shoot Mongo. It only makes him mad.
Trivia time: Who played Mongo in Blazing Saddles?
109 | Rich H Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:46:29am |
re: #69 redc1c4
bullshit.
racism, sexism, antisemitism and islamic militancy come to mind immediately.
maybe it's just me, but i find all 4 offensive
Yet it is your choice to feel so, is it not?
What separates humans from lower life forms is our ability to choose.
110 | blackpajamas Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:46:59am |
_____ Obozo My Bozo! _____
our fearful economy is done!
Recall: The DNC Keynote 2004
"I stand here knowing that my story is part of the larger American story, that I owe a debt to all of those who came before me,"
Except for shareholders, capitalists, taxpayers, the military, etc.
(And those dumb stooge taxpayers who who helped pay the mortgage insurance for you parent's FHA home loan).
Without your magnificence who knows what would happen! There might even be some evil-blob like governmental entity run amok, making taxpayers pay for FHA loans to people who fail to make the first payment!
"Tonight, we gather to affirm the greatness of our nation, not because of the height of our skyscrapers, or the power of our military, or the size of our economy."
Indeed, why pay any attention to the little things, like industry, military protection, and the economy?
"Our pride is based on a very simple premise, summed up in a declaration made over two hundred years ago,"
We know you get a tingle for declarations, even without your training-wheel tele-prompter.
In America however, actions speak loader than words.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."
If you really believe so, why don't you tax them equally?
Put up, or shut up -- as the real world declaration goes.
"That they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights."
The right to pay for your neighbor's mortgage -- all of you neighbors, not just one!
"That among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
Which are to be funded by: The politically un-connected middle & upper class -- comprised of taxpayers too stupid to be able to buy a "Swiss Financial Insurance Policy", such as from, but not strictly limited to, UBS.
"That is the true genius of America, a faith in a simple dream, an insistence on small miracles. That we can tuck in our children at night and know they are fed and clothed and safe from harm."
Fed, clothed, and made safe by what and whom?
Is Barney Frank your cuddly "small miracle"? The Fannie Mae-flower of your tired huddled illegal alien masses -- pining for the supple shores and fertile fields of the virgin taxpayer wallets?
(end part 1)
111 | BatGuano Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:47:43am |
112 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:49:13am |
re: #111 BatGuano
Alex Carras (SP)
Yep!
Quite a different role than he had in Webster, wouldn't you say?
113 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:49:44am |
re: #109 Rich H
Yet it is your choice to feel so, is it not?
What separates humans from lower life forms is our ability to choose.
so how would you suggest i choose to approach such subjects emotionally?
114 | blackpajamas Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:51:04am |
(part 2)
"Now let me be clear. We have real enemies in the world. These enemies must be found. They must be pursued and they must be defeated"
Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, The American taxpayer-citizen.
"That we can say what we think, write what we think, without hearing a sudden knock on the door."
You are right! The Fairness Doctrine doesn't knock, it oozes through the door while the door is still closed.
"That we can have an idea and start our own business without paying a bribe or hiring somebody’s son."
Union Labor. Card Check. The Chicago Political machine. Blago. Burris.
Never heard of them, right?
"Go into the collar counties around Chicago, and people will tell you they don’t want their tax money wasted by a welfare agency or the Pentagon."
If you want to abolish welfare, we won't stop you!
However, if you mean the middle class doesn't want the middle class to have its money wasted on welfare, that's OK too, the upper class will pay for it indefinitely, right? (It's not like they'll put the money in Swiss bank accounts or anything).
"Go into any inner city neighborhood, and folks will tell you that government alone can’t teach kids to learn."
So your simulus plan calls for the upgrade of school facilities instead, because of (a) random chance, (b) the vast right wing conspiracy, or (c) the Turbo-Tax Gnomes of Zurich?
"They know that parents have to parent, that children can’t achieve unless' we raise their expectations and turn off the television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth with a book is acting white."
Oh, how prominently this must have been mentioned in your stimulus bill!
Certainly you can show us in your stimulus bill where this is mentioned, so we don't accidentally interpret your god-words to mean that we only need to dump more money on school facilities and administrative upgrades.
"Out of many, one. Yet even as we speak, there are those who are preparing to divide us, the spin masters and negative ad peddlers who embrace the politics of anything goes."
Certainly, that would never include heads of state that single out their own citizens for one on one attack?
"There’s not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there’s the United States of America. The pundits like to slice-and-dice our country into Red States and Blue States"
How is Ol' Ram-U-Manual doing sending people personalized kiss-my fish-o-grams from the Oval office?
Perhaps he's too busy writing the acceptance speech for the "most positive ad-peddler" of the year, right?
"In the end, that’s what this election is about. Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or a politics of hope?"
We only know one idiot who proposes and plans to give nearly a billions dollars of American taxpayer money (material aid and comfort) to a known terrorist organization in the Middle East.
"The audacity of hope! In the end, that is God’s greatest gift to us"
What do you know of God?
(the end)
115 | BatGuano Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:52:27am |
re: #113 redc1c4
so how would you suggest i choose to approach such subjects emotionally?
Oh yeah, Alex was a monster for the Lions but was a real funny guy. Webster showed the nice guy side.
116 | Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:52:41am |
Red C and Blue. You got me thinking all about the military stories I heard in my childhood. I grew up next door to Lt. Col. Olin L Beall, an old retired Marine who served in Haiti, WWI, WWII and Korea. We never asked a lot of questions, just listened to his war stories he would tell when he took all of us neighborhood kids camping. I was enthralled. He died in his seventies. About five years ago I was priviledged, along with his two kids to go to a reunion of the Baker Company, First Motor Transport from the Korean War. They told us things that I will never forget, in fact, their wives told us they had never talked about the war as much as they did that night. They are sometimes called the "Ice Marines" from the frozen Chosin
I am honored to know them.
[Link: www.americanheritage.com...]
Nite, lizards. I am finally tired and kind of nostalgic.
117 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:53:38am |
The Audacity of Hope The Paucity of Content
Ear Leader is the original Empty Suit.
118 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:54:50am |
re: #116 Pvt Bin Jammin
Red C and Blue. You got me thinking all about the military stories I heard in my childhood. I grew up next door to Lt. Col. Olin L Beall, an old retired Marine who served in Haiti, WWI, WWII and Korea. We never asked a lot of questions, just listened to his war stories he would tell when he took all of us neighborhood kids camping. I was enthralled. He died in his seventies. About five years ago I was priviledged, along with his two kids to go to a reunion of the Baker Company, First Motor Transport from the Korean War. They told us things that I will never forget, in fact, their wives told us they had never talked about the war as much as they did that night. They are sometimes called the "Ice Marines" from the frozen Chosin
I am honored to know them.
[Link: www.americanheritage.com...]
Nite, lizards. I am finally tired and kind of nostalgic.
you were with the "Old Breed", and luck to have met him.
120 | Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Mar 9, 2009 12:59:30am |
re: #118 redc1c4
He was like my second Dad. It was sure great to meet the guys he served with, too. I got invited to two of their reunions down in San Diego. Hope I get to go again. They are so awesome.
One of the guys wrote an article about in, of all things, "Soldier of Fortune". I think the title was something like "The man who walked on water".
I am out.
121 | BatGuano Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:00:42am |
re: #115 BatGuano
Oh yeah, Alex was a monster for the Lions but was a real funny guy. Webster showed the nice guy side.
I just noticed I responded to the wrong post. I meant to respond to GMSC.
122 | Rich H Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:00:42am |
re: #113 redc1c4
I would suggest that you choose to feel however you want to feel. My only admonishment is that you take responsibility for your reaction, and not to place blame on others for how you feel about it.
124 | BatGuano Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:02:54am |
It is time for the Bat to hang from the ceiling. G'night all.
125 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:09:00am |
*sniff, sniff*
/what kind of 29 commenter we got here?
127 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:11:24am |
re: #122 Rich H
I would suggest that you choose to feel however you want to feel. My only admonishment is that you take responsibility for your reaction, and not to place blame on others for how you feel about it.
whereas i would suggest you go fuck yourself, and your moral ambiguity while you're at it.
/green smoke out.
128 | Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:11:41am |
One more detail about my story and then I'm in bed for sure. He always told us kids that the reason he was able to cross the Chosin Reservoir with the Chinese regulars all around is because he had been around when the Chinese had that Bataan Death March and he helped to save them and spoke a little of the lingo.
nite
129 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:12:36am |
re: #125 Killian Bundy
*sniff, sniff*
/what kind of 29 commenter we got here?
likely the short lived kind..... i'll get the grill going.
/got any beer?
130 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:15:26am |
re: #129 redc1c4
likely the short lived kind..... i'll get the grill going.
/got any beer?
Drank all of mine yesterday. I will run to the store..................
131 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:15:51am |
133 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:17:31am |
Anybody still up around here? No fun Obama bashing fest for me to pile onto?
135 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:17:35am |
Obama's Political Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome
In the field of Psychiatry, Munchausen by Proxy is a disease of a child's custodian, usually a mother, who induces sickness, real or imagined in her child (sometimes resulting in death) in order to gain sympathy and to portray herself as the heroine. The child accepts his/her abuse as "normal" in exchange for a perception of safety provided by the caretaker. The adolescent child has no other choice.
/spot on analogy
137 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:19:12am |
re: #133 axegrinder
Anybody still up around here? No fun Obama bashing fest for me to pile onto?
which subject would you like to focus on, seeing as how he's fucked up so many?
138 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:19:46am |
re: #130 Erik The Red
Drank all of mine yesterday. I will run to the store..................
drive over there: you can bring more back. %-)
139 | Sharmuta Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:19:50am |
re: #122 Rich H
I would suggest that you choose to feel however you want to feel. My only admonishment is that you take responsibility for your reaction, and not to place blame on others for how you feel about it.
The problem with that is are some things (along the lines that red already posted) that are worthy of getting offended over. Maybe bigots should take responsibility for their bullshit. I'll gladly take responsibility for holding ideals that finds expressed bigotry offensive.
140 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:20:23am |
"He is interested in two things and two things only: making you afraid of it and telling you who’s to blame for it. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections."
-The American President
141 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:20:42am |
thing is, the MSM will praise him no matter what happens. He can't lose. No matter how bad it ends up being, he'll be lauded as heroic for keeping it from being even worse. Count on it.
142 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:20:50am |
speaking of The Incompetent One, how far do you think the market will fall today, or will we see an addition to Friday's spectacular 35 point rally?
143 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:23:05am |
re: #142 redc1c4
I'm anticipating a 200 pt slump today early, maybe some optimists will pull a rally in the mid morning to late afternoon and it won't be too bad a loss. I think the Hedge Funders are dumping any chance they get.
144 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:23:16am |
If you use Wordpress never, I repeat never, restore from autosave.
/[expletive deleted] thing added a "/" next to every apostrophe or quote mark and converted all the links to text
145 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:25:36am |
146 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:25:41am |
re: #139 Sharmuta
The problem with that is are some things (along the lines that red already posted) that are worthy of getting offended over. Maybe bigots should take responsibility for their bullshit. I'll gladly take responsibility for holding ideals that finds expressed bigotry offensive.
thank you.
if you won't stand for something, why live?
147 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:25:52am |
re: #144 Killian Bundy
Noted. Good thing I have no idea what Wordpress is. I blame the hamsters.
148 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:28:21am |
re: #145 BlueCanuck
I think we'll be trading sideways for a few years. Just dollar average and if your still doing it 25 years from now I think there's a good chance you'll have a nice little nest egg. Just don't panic and sell when things get really bad. Just keep buying a little every paycheck. That's what I'm doing.
149 | Sharmuta Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:29:47am |
re: #142 redc1c4
speaking of The Incompetent One, how far do you think the market will fall today, or will we see an addition to Friday's spectacular 35 point rally?
Monday: -200 min.
Tuesday: +75
Wednesday: -150
Thursday: +2
Friday: -200
150 | Opilio Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:30:02am |
re: #148 axegrinder
I think we'll be trading sideways for a few years. Just dollar average and if your still doing it 25 years from now I think there's a good chance you'll have a nice little nest egg. Just don't panic and sell when things get really bad. Just keep buying a little every paycheck. That's what I'm doing.
That's just what I thought 25 years ago. And it was sort of working out that way. Until recently.
151 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:30:48am |
re: #148 axegrinder
I think we'll be trading sideways for a few years. Just dollar average and if your still doing it 25 years from now I think there's a good chance you'll have a nice little nest egg. Just don't panic and sell when things get really bad. Just keep buying a little every paycheck. That's what I'm doing.
so am i.....
mostly rifle ammo, but some pistol and the odd box of 12 gauge when i can get a deal.
152 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:32:34am |
I have confidence that one man and his handlers won't destroy this country. He can make it harder on us but we'll recover and capitalism will return to prominence soon enough. re: #150 Opilio
Dude, if you were putting 15% of your salary in the market for the last 25 years you did awesome. Even now. I hope you readjusted your trading strategy the older you got.
153 | iLikeCandy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:32:44am |
Good evening. May I ask a question?
I've been reading this story about how the Won called the NY Times to clarify that he is not socialist. In an interview, he had laughed the question off; then he decided he'd better call back, from the Oval Office, and pointed out that George W. Bush was the one who shoveled money into drug plans and banks. I'm seeing this linked all over the place but I'm not sure what the significance of this story is. Is it just that the question itself is being raised seriously and that he's realized he'd better stomp it out now?
154 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:33:12am |
re: #149 Sharmuta
Monday: -200 min.
Tuesday: +75
Wednesday: -150
Thursday: +2
Friday: -200
kinda what i'm thinking: one day of drop, then we bounce off the cliff wall for a day, then gravity takes over again.
155 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:34:09am |
re: #151 redc1c4
Yeah, I need to find a well stocked bunker around here. Just in case.
156 | Rich H Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:34:32am |
re: #139 Sharmuta
"The problem with that is are some things (along the lines that red already posted) that are worthy of getting offended over. Maybe bigots should take responsibility for their bullshit. I'll gladly take responsibility for holding ideals that finds expressed bigotry offensive."
I never suggested otherwise. And I'm not a moral relativist. Quite the opposite. There are many things in the world that I believe merit our disdain, our contempt, our hatred even. But that's a moral choice.
Yet there is no right not to be offended. We live in a world where "offensive" speech is still protected by law, at least in some (diminishing) parts of the world. When someone says something that we find disagreeable, we can choose to tolerate that speech or not to tolerate it. It is our choice.
157 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:35:04am |
re: #153 iLikeCandy
Good evening. May I ask a question?
yes, but do you have a cite?
with your stats, it sound's trollish.
iLikeCandy(Logged in)
Registered since: Jan 22, 2009 at 7:14 pm
No. of comments posted: 190
No. of links posted: 0
159 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:36:58am |
re: #153 iLikeCandy
I wonder sometimes if politicians are really that ignorant or if they just think we are. Of course he's a socialist. Just look at his rhetoric and his history of votes. Hillary is as well. I'm surprised they haven't had Hugo Chavez over for dinner yet.
160 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:38:19am |
re: #159 axegrinder
I wonder sometimes if politicians are really that ignorant or if they just think we are. Of course he's a socialist. Just look at his rhetoric and his history of votes. Hillary is as well. I'm surprised they haven't had Hugo Chavez over for dinner yet.
they are still trying to figure out how to roast him.
161 | iLikeCandy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:38:38am |
The last time someone asked me for a cite, I gave them one and they contemptuously answered that they weren't going to go "link diving," whatever that means. I also have no idea what my "stats" mean. I'm trying to figure out what this story means. It's everywhere at the moment.
162 | Rich H Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:39:11am |
163 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:40:34am |
re: #156 Rich H
Run along now, yo Mama's cookin' din din.
[Link: www.youtube.com:80...]
/stop back when you've got an avatar and have figured out how to use the quote function
164 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:41:47am |
When someone says something that we find disagreeable, we can choose to tolerate that speech or not to tolerate it. It is our choice.
I don't know about that. I think there are some seriously screwed up people that don't have a choice what offends them. It just does. Like homosexuality. I agree it's a choice people make who(or what) they sleep with, but does someone "choose" to be grossed out at the idea of sleeping with someone of the opposite sex? I think sometimes we are influenced by our genetic coding and, more often, by our experiences(environment) on how we feel or react to things. No one has ultimate control over their emotions. Some have more, admittedly and I respect that. But most people just react instinctively. IMO.
165 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:43:14am |
re: #162 Rich H
Explain.
you keep moving the goalposts, much like your possible alter ego.
i am unimpressed with what you trot out as logic, and even less than that with what you apparently use for a moral framew*rk.
HTH! HAND..............
166 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:44:21am |
re: #161 iLikeCandy
The last time someone asked me for a cite, I gave them one and they contemptuously answered that they weren't going to go "link diving," whatever that means. I also have no idea what my "stats" mean. I'm trying to figure out what this story means. It's everywhere at the moment.
then you won't have a problem linking one for someone who's asked for it.
/unless, of course, it's all just bullshit.
167 | IslandLibertarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:44:29am |
"There are many things in the world that I believe merit our disdain, our contempt, our hatred even. But that's a moral choice."
There are many things in the world that need killing!
Even "Old Yeller" needed to be dispatched when he became rabid.
That's common sense.
"0"s gunna get us killed.
168 | Sharmuta Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:44:33am |
re: #156 Rich H
I never suggested otherwise. And I'm not a moral relativist. Quite the opposite. There are many things in the world that I believe merit our disdain, our contempt, our hatred even. But that's a moral choice.
Yet there is no right not to be offended. We live in a world where "offensive" speech is still protected by law, at least in some (diminishing) parts of the world. When someone says something that we find disagreeable, we can choose to tolerate that speech or not to tolerate it. It is our choice.
I have no problem with bigots opening their mouths and allowing all who would see to know exactly who they are. The same free speech that allows them to do so also allows me the ability to denounce them, their statements and bigotry. There isn't a "right not to be offend"- this is true. There are, however, consequences when a person is offensive- at least in this country. One reaps what they sow.
172 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:48:03am |
re: #169 ploome hineni
ad nauseam was just setting in, pull up a chair.
174 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:48:37am |
Christopher Columbus was actually a Scotsman called Pedro Scotto, historian says
Alfonso Ensenat de Villalonga has disputed conventionally-accepted narratives on the explorer's origins - that he was the son of a weaver in Genoa, Italy, or that he was from Catalonia or Galicia in Spain.
In fact, he was from Genoa, but he was "the son of shopkeepers not weavers and he was baptised Pedro not Christopher," Mr Villalonga told Spain's ABC newspaper on Sunday.
And his family name was Scotto, and was not Italian but of Scottish origin.
"He had light-coloured eyes and freckles. He also had blond hair even though it quickly turned white. That's how his contemporaries described him. Nothing like the traditional images (of him), which are totally invented," the historian said.
/and he had Muslim navigators and steam turbine propulsion
179 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:50:39am |
re: #174 Killian Bundy
Yeah, and he was chief engineer on the Enterprise.
180 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:51:13am |
How long before Nirther Boy shows up?
/he didn't get nailed to the dumpster lid yesterday
182 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:51:26am |
183 | Sharmuta Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:52:11am |
re: #171 ploome hineni
So- when discussing bigots, what would you prefer I call them?
185 | Buster Bunny Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:52:20am |
re: #182 littleoldlady
MooseCaca!
Everybody knows Christopher Columbus was Jewish!
What .. you talking about Chaim Colombus Gershtein?
186 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:52:29am |
re: #182 littleoldlady
MooseCaca!
Everybody knows Christopher Columbus was Jewish!
he couldn't have been: his mother never would have let him go off like that.
187 | Buster Bunny Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:53:13am |
re: #183 Sharmuta
So- when discussing bigots, what would you prefer I call them?
Persons of overtly overextended racist attitudes.
188 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:54:51am |
re: #180 Killian Bundy
How long before Nirther Boy shows up?
/he didn't get nailed to the dumpster lid yesterday
You are joking right? I can't believe he didn't get the stick.
190 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:55:20am |
191 | Buster Bunny Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:55:43am |
re: #188 Erik The Red
You are joking right? I can't believe he didn't get the stick.
More importantly .. why did I end up having to defend him? :P
192 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:56:02am |
194 | Rich H Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:56:41am |
re: #168 Sharmuta
I have no problem with bigots opening their mouths and allowing all who would see to know exactly who they are. The same free speech that allows them to do so also allows me the ability to denounce them, their statements and bigotry. There isn't a "right not to be offend"- this is true. There are, however, consequences when a person is offensive- at least in this country. One reaps what they sow.
Exactly.
Yet increasingly, there are countries (e.g., Canada, UK, Denmark) where this principle seems to be in danger of failing.
195 | Buster Bunny Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:56:48am |
197 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:57:19am |
so, how far off is LoL going to be tonight?
she was off by hours yesterday...... %-)
198 | Sharmuta Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:58:39am |
re: #189 ploome hineni
it is a matterof judgement
calling anyone who describes someone or some group in unflattering terms is not automatically a bigot
Right- and no one was critical of any group of people except red and I who were being critical of bigots of various flavors. But we were doing so with thought, so we're not being bigoted against bigots.
199 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:59:11am |
backup fruitcup now available over there--------> somewhere.
/follow the fumes %-)
200 | Buster Bunny Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:59:21am |
re: #196 ploome hineni
LoL
are you fasting with Esther today?
I never fast with dead Persian chicks. Not my thing. However .. dressing up to the nines in a gorilla suit .. blowing a trumpet every time someone yells Haman and eating his ears .. well thats totally normal for this time of year.
201 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:59:28am |
re: #188 Erik The Red
You are joking right? I can't believe he didn't get the stick.
/took the deletions, lived to tell about it
202 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:00:08am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!
204 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:00:35am |
re: #202 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!
Yummy! Thanks!
205 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:00:56am |
re: #202 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!
{lol} Thanks for fruitcup. It suits me so much better at this time:)
206 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:00:56am |
Good morning littleoldlady. I have missed your fruitcups. But sleeping during regular hours was so much fun.
208 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:01:04am |
re: #202 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!
yer late.... again!
209 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:01:51am |
re: #206 BlueCanuck
Good morning littleoldlady. I have missed your fruitcups. But sleeping during regular hours was so much fun.
and so needed for an old fart like you.
/white smoke
210 | Buster Bunny Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:02:11am |
re: #202 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!
Nummy fruit cup .. with blueberries !
211 | Sharmuta Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:02:24am |
re: #194 Rich H
Exactly.
Yet increasingly, there are countries (e.g., Canada, UK, Denmark) where this principle seems to be in danger of failing.
And that's troubling- no doubt about it. But as an American I have my own problems- mainly the principle of capitalism failing.
212 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:02:31am |
re: #149 Sharmuta
Monday: -200 min.
Tuesday: +75
Wednesday: -150
Thursday: +2
Friday: -200
Dow Futures down around 100 at this writing.
213 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:02:52am |
re: #210 Buster Bunny
Nummy fruit cup .. with blueberries !
those aren't blueberries..... the rabit ate all the dark blue uniform shirts yesterday.
214 | Panhandler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:03:11am |
re: #202 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!
Thanks lol - no fumes from yours
216 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:04:03am |
It's gotten so I don't even watch the news anymore. I just end up swearing at the screen. It's making me ill.
217 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:04:08am |
I should be fasting with Esther.
My usual annual "deliver 300 shalach munes baskets" job was supposed to have been done away with this year.
/can I collect unemployment?
I was informed by email yesterday that there's "a bunch of baskets that people haven't picked up yet" at the synagogue.
I probably won't have time to eat today...
218 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:04:49am |
re: #212 gmsc
Dow Futures down around 100 at this writing.
AHWOOOGHA! AHWOOOOHHA!
NOW HEAR THIS! NOW HEAR THIS!
ALL HANDS TO DIVING STATIONS. THIS IS NO DRILL!
219 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:05:30am |
220 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:06:07am |
re: #217 littleoldlady
I should be fasting with Esther.
My usual annual "deliver 300 shalach munes baskets" job was supposed to have been done away with this year.
/can I collect unemployment?
I was informed by email yesterday that there's "a bunch of baskets that people haven't picked up yet" at the synagogue.
I probably won't have time to eat today...
see: G*d provides you with a mitzvah as you do a mitzvah.
221 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:06:24am |
Sharmuta!
gmsc! :-)
red! :-)
Erik! :-)
BlueCanuck! :-)
Missed you!
Bunny! :-)
Panhandler! :-)
axgrinder! :-)
222 | Buster Bunny Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:07:22am |
re: #212 gmsc
You want to be scared? The graphs all point to a deeper decline than the 1929 Depression. Matching the graphs side by side and starting from roughly the same points .. to date .. we are on a tilt that just goes straight down.
And in 1929 the markets finished down 90%
223 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:08:10am |
re: #221 littleoldlady
Sharmuta!
gmsc! :-)
red! :-)
Erik! :-)
BlueCanuck! :-)
Missed you!
then aim next time, and you won't have that problem.
224 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:08:25am |
re: #221 littleoldlady
BlueCanuck! :-)Missed you!
Thank you {littleoldlady}, it's nice to be missed. I am nice and recharged. Should be good for a couple of days. :D
229 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:09:05am |
re: #222 Buster Bunny
You want to be scared? The graphs all point to a deeper decline than the 1929 Depression. Matching the graphs side by side and starting from roughly the same points .. to date .. we are on a tilt that just goes straight down.
And in 1929 the markets finished down 90%
i guess we'll find out what "crush depth" is then....
230 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:09:14am |
re: #223 redc1c4
Old joke, still use it myself from time to time.
231 | Panhandler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:09:26am |
re: #217 littleoldlady
You'll be just fine I betcha.
Endeavor to Perservere
232 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:09:31am |
re: #224 BlueCanuck
Thank you {littleoldlady}, it's nice to be missed. I am nice and recharged. Should be good for a couple of days. :D
first time for everything!
/white smoke
235 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:10:55am |
re: #222 Buster Bunny
You want to be scared? The graphs all point to a deeper decline than the 1929 Depression. Matching the graphs side by side and starting from roughly the same points .. to date .. we are on a tilt that just goes straight down.
And in 1929 the markets finished down 90%
The one that makes me concerned is not all the ones that are going down now, but the rise of this one in the past!
236 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:10:59am |
re: #230 BlueCanuck
Old joke, still use it myself from time to time.
learned it from you when i was young.
237 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:11:05am |
re: #222 Buster Bunny
The thing is there are a lot more unsophisticated investors this time around. Not just in numbers but percentage wise as well. There are many, many people that just will never sell their stock. They have a longer then 5 years horizon and will just keep plugging away. At least that is what I'm hoping for.
238 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:11:45am |
re: #234 ploome hineni
stop smoking already, it's not good for you
i'm not worried: the leading cause of death in the US is living, and i don't have a life.
239 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:11:55am |
Oh dear! My fingers are in still in spasm from yesterday.
/along with my back
{Sharmuta!} :-) :-) :-)
/hope that makes up for it
240 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:11:55am |
re: #234 ploome hineni
With the amount of smoking and alcohol he imbibes, he's aiming for preservation. He also won't die young at that rate.
/besides only the good die young
//white smoke.
241 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:12:45am |
242 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:12:57am |
keep an eye on the trolls for me....
hasta y'all.
L8r!
back in a few hours
243 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:13:00am |
re: #236 redc1c4
learned it from you when i was young.
If you keep that up sonny, I will smack you with my walker.
245 | redc1c4 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:13:38am |
re: #240 BlueCanuck
With the amount of smoking and alcohol he imbibes, he's aiming for preservation. He also won't die young at that rate.
/besides only the good die young
//white smoke.
you can't kill a man born to hang.
248 | Rich H Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:15:22am |
re: #211 Sharmuta
And that's troubling- no doubt about it. But as an American I have my own problems- mainly the principle of capitalism failing.
We are beset by many threats to out freedom these days. We all need to oppose these threats together. Good night Sharmuta.
249 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:15:35am |
Panhandler,
SUNDAY is bloody. Monday is MANIC!
/get with the program!
;-)
252 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:16:58am |
re: #246 ploome hineni
I thought Friday the 13th was THIS week.
253 | Panhandler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:17:38am |
255 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:18:04am |
256 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:18:14am |
re: #249 littleoldlady
Panhandler,
SUNDAY is bloody. Monday is MANIC!
/get with the program!
;-)
258 | UncleRancher Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:18:39am |
Whatdaya have to do to get fruitcup around here. Seems to be all gone.
262 | IslandLibertarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:20:18am |
re: #246 ploome hineni
You know, some say things happen in threes.
Be careful.
263 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:21:03am |
Panhandler,
gmsc,
There ya go! :-)
/wish I could move
//I'd dance along
UncleRancher! :-)
Plenty left! Bon appetit!
265 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:21:53am |
266 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:22:13am |
re: #257 ploome hineni
so are you saying to hold the stocks you have?
/it's way too late to sell now, unless you're into buy high sell low
267 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:22:48am |
re: #254 ploome hineni
broke the toilet
not the shelf
Need to hit the junk yard to get a decent sized tank these days. Darn tree-huggers. They've already invaded your bathroom and now they're going after your car. After we nationalize the auto industry, you'll be forced to drive a midget car or take the bus.
268 | UncleRancher Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:22:53am |
re: #263 littleoldlady
Panhandler,
gmsc,
There ya go! :-)
/wish I could move
//I'd dance alongUncleRancher! :-)
Plenty left! Bon appetit!
Alright! Another whole tray full! Thanks anyway Ploome, I'll take the fresh.
269 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:24:29am |
I understand there will be a great improvement in Circuit City's level of service starting on Tuesday.
270 | UncleRancher Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:24:32am |
The good news for today -- One less day of Obama to look forward to.
271 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:24:38am |
re: #257 ploome hineni
so are you saying to hold the stocks you have?
Of course not. Depends on what you have. I'm well diversified but suffering right along with everyone else. I'm worth half what i was worth 6 months ago. Sucks.
272 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:24:44am |
Okay, now the DJIA is triple digits down.
/-114
273 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:25:08am |
re: #270 UncleRancher
The good news for today -- One less day of Obama to look forward to.
274 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:25:51am |
re: #272 Killian Bundy
Okay, now the DJIA is triple digits down.
/-114
Impressive, especially consider it won't be opening for another few hours.
(Are you sure you don't mean the Dow Jones Futures?)
275 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:25:54am |
277 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:27:28am |
re: #274 gmsc
Impressive, especially consider it won't be opening for another few hours.
(Are you sure you don't mean the Dow Jones Futures?)
/yeah. yeah, yeah, futures, now -144
280 | Sharmuta Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:28:05am |
By the time 0bama comes up for re-election I think we'll be seeing the Dow back in the Carter range.
282 | WhiteRasta Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:29:30am |
OK, here's a bit of fun:
Give Ted Kennedy a name to go with his Knighthood. I have already read Sir Chivas of Regal, so that one is out.
Mine is : Sir Johnnie Walker.
Any others?
283 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:30:21am |
285 | IslandLibertarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:31:38am |
re: #282 WhiteRasta
Sir Breaststroke?, Sir Splash?, Sir Chappaquiddick?.............
286 | gmsc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:32:05am |
re: #282 WhiteRasta
OK, here's a bit of fun:
Give Ted Kennedy a name to go with his Knighthood. I have already read Sir Chivas of Regal, so that one is out.
Mine is : Sir Johnnie Walker.
Any others?
Chap of Quiddick?
287 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:32:16am |
HANG SENG -576.94 -4.84% 11,344.58
/China, spanked
288 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:32:58am |
re: #75 redc1c4
I started telling people who asked me for numbers that I had lost count years ago just like I stopped counting jumps at 500. Last person who asked me turned a sickly shade of green and wouldn't get within 20 or 30 feet of me if he could avoid it. I assume he assumed I was inferring a kill count in the 500 plus range.
289 | Panhandler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:34:32am |
290 | UncleRancher Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:35:10am |
re: #288 Rustler
I started telling people who asked me for numbers that I had lost count years ago just like I stopped counting jumps at 500. Last person who asked me turned a sickly shade of green and wouldn't get within 20 or 30 feet of me if he could avoid it. I assume he assumed I was inferring a kill count in the 500 plus range.
I just look at them and say "Please don't get me started... again".
291 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:36:07am |
re: #282 WhiteRasta
OK, here's a bit of fun:
Give Ted Kennedy a name to go with his Knighthood. I have already read Sir Chivas of Regal, so that one is out.
Mine is : Sir Johnnie Walker.
Any others?
Ain't he dead yet?
293 | Panhandler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:38:05am |
re: #291 axegrinder
That rumbling sound you hear is coming from the thin ice you're standing on.
296 | UncleRancher Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:40:15am |
re: #291 axegrinder
Ain't he dead yet?
Quite possibly. Fidel Castro, Kim Jong Il, Osama bin Laden, same category. I figure it is more convenient for some of these to remain alive long after physical demise for political reasons.
301 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:44:21am |
re: #277 Killian Bundy
/yeah. yeah, yeah, futures, now -144
Hey Obama, did you have a nice weekend off at Camp David?
You didn't happen to come back with a comprehensive plan to deal with the toxic bank assets, did you?
/so we can stop losing money EVERY [EXPLETIVE DELETED] DAY YOU AND YOUR CLOWN POSSE CONTINUE TO SLACK OFF?
302 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:44:27am |
Does anyone actually believe either Castro or Osama are still kicking? Seems they'd be trotted out for photo ops if they were.
303 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:45:52am |
304 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:46:35am |
re: #290 UncleRancher That's always a bad Idea as the idiots can then get you charges for assault.
305 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:49:49am |
Sheesh, I hope we're not ALL staring at the computer waiting for somebody to say something interesting. Cause that would just be sad.
306 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:50:46am |
re: #302 axegrinder
Given the Video from Mid January in which Osama talks about fairly recent events such as Obama's winning the election he may still be alive. Castro and Kim I think are worm food however.
308 | Dustyvet Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:51:23am |
Rev. Wright Cautions: Obama 'Ain't Jesus'
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
310 | Dustyvet Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:52:45am |
President Barack Obama declares America should be ready to talk to the Taliban
American forces are prepared to make overtures to moderate Taliban commanders using an approach that saw insurgents in Iraq turn against al-Qaeda, President Barack Obama has said.
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
311 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:52:58am |
re: #301 Killian Bundy
Hey Obama, did you have a nice weekend off at Camp David?
You didn't happen to come back with a comprehensive plan to deal with the toxic bank assets, did you?
/so we can stop losing money EVERY [EXPLETIVE DELETED] DAY YOU AND YOUR CLOWN POSSE CONTINUE TO SLACK OFF?
I wish they were slacking off. They are some busy little beavers. Increasing the size of government and paying off lobbyists. It's like Biden said; there dancin' with those that brought 'em. It's going to get even uglier.
312 | Killian Bundy Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:53:36am |
re: #303 littleoldlady
Leave him alone, Killian!
/he's tired
I was going to say something about Marie Antoinette, the Secret Service, and everyone eating cake today.
/but I'll let it go because it wouldn't be right
313 | UncleRancher Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:54:59am |
re: #304 Rustler
That's always a bad Idea as the idiots can then get you charges for assault.
I try not to hang around with idiots.
314 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:56:05am |
re: #297 BlueCanuck
Blue could you give me a energy pack for Mafia? Thanks
315 | Dustyvet Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:56:34am |
re: #314 Erik The Red
Blue could you give me a energy pack for Mafia? Thanks
Did you get the one I sent?
316 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:57:10am |
317 | Dustyvet Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:58:35am |
re: #316 Erik The Red
Yes thanks you should also have gotten one from me.
Just sent another one...I got no clue just how that works...
318 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:58:52am |
re: #314 Erik The Red
I can't yet. Hasn't been 24 hours yet.
319 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:59:19am |
re: #317 Dustyvet
Just sent another one...I got no clue just how that works...
Only can send 1 every 24 hours.
320 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:59:34am |
321 | Dustyvet Mon, Mar 9, 2009 2:59:49am |
322 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:00:07am |
324 | Scorch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:03:32am |
re: #306 Rustler
Given the Video from Mid January in which Osama talks about fairly recent events such as Obama's winning the election he may still be alive. Castro and Kim I think are worm food however.
I missed that video. Do you have a link for it?
325 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:06:57am |
re: #324 Scorch
I missed that video. Do you have a link for it?
I wonder if it's the same cracker jack intelligence guys telling us that that was Osama that used to tell us about WMD's and what not. Seems to me Obama would have a multitude of cousins with voice signatures close enough to pass. I'm just sayin'
326 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:07:42am |
329 | Scorch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:13:00am |
re: #325 axegrinder
A search only turns out audio tapes from January through March. It seems if he was alive he would want to show his carcass to all the world and not an old photo op of him sitting there with his ak in hand.
330 | littleoldlady Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:13:04am |
WHOA. before I (really) leave...take a look at THIS.
/we're not as dumb as we look...
333 | UncleRancher Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:16:07am |
F 1.70 (peaked at 36)
GM 1.45 (peaked at 93.62)
GE 7.06 (Peaked at 60)
There is not much down-side left for the bottom feeders.
335 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:22:29am |
re: #333 UncleRancher
F 1.70 (peaked at 36)
GM 1.45 (peaked at 93.62)
GE 7.06 (Peaked at 60)
There is not much down-side left for the bottom feeders.
I bought GE at 15 bucks because it was a steal. Bought again at 9 bucks because it was an even better steal. Now half of me desperately wants to get in on this basement deal at 7 and the other half wants to unload before it goes to zero. So I compromise and do nothing. It's always easier anyway.
338 | TheMatrix31 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:24:24am |
339 | Scorch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:24:54am |
re: #336 goddessoftheclassroom
Good morning goddess. I need to make a cup of joe run.
341 | goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:26:46am |
{BlueCanuck}
{TheMatrix31}
{Scorch}
{axegrinder)
I'm fine, thanks! This week I have to finish up the last details from the musical, such as shipping back scripts. It was a great production.
Now maybe I can get my house clean...
343 | TheMatrix31 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:28:05am |
re: #341 goddessoftheclassroom
{BlueCanuck}
{TheMatrix31}
{Scorch}
{axegrinder)I'm fine, thanks! This week I have to finish up the last details from the musical, such as shipping back scripts. It was a great production.
Now maybe I can get my house clean...
I wish my house could be cleaned. It's a total mess. Little brother and sister destroy the place.
345 | Salamantis Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:29:53am |
it is also true that some of the most helpful books are those that some find top be the most offensive.
346 | axegrinder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:30:04am |
I thought that's what kids were for. Cleaning stuff up and fetching beers and making sandwiches and what not. What's the good in having them otherwise?
347 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:30:56am |
re: #324 Scorch Was Audio actually not Video and only been able to dig up untranslated and non English versions so far.
349 | goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:32:13am |
re: #342 rightside
{goddess}
{rigthside}
The musical was Forty-Five Minutes from Broadway--LOTS of George M. Cohan favorites.
352 | Dustyvet Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:38:04am |
re: #349 goddessoftheclassroom
{rigthside}
The musical was Forty-Five Minutes from Broadway--LOTS of George M. Cohan favorites.
354 | Scorch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:52:31am |
I wonder why North Korea can never launch a satellite or have a missle test without threatening war?
355 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:56:01am |
The same reason Islamofacists can't have a civil conversation without demanding an apology for some perceived slight. It's both a habit and a way of passing blame along from the government for the sake of the masses.
356 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 3:56:13am |
re: #354 Scorch
I wonder why North Korea can never launch a satellite or have a missle test without threatening war?
For the same reason a mosquito can't land on your arm without threatening to sting you. IT'S WHAT THEY DO!
357 | Scorch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:00:10am |
re: #355 Rustler
The same reason Islamofacists can't have a civil conversation without demanding an apology for some perceived slight. It's both a habit and a way of passing blame along from the government for the sake of the masses.
Sounds a lot like our current administration.
358 | summergurl Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:02:55am |
Morning Lizards -
Just read the N. Korea article/warning and am sipping coffee getting my bearings.
359 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:04:31am |
re: #357 Scorch //Yeah I Didn't want to say that out load as there are 4 scarey looking Suv's in our parkinglot with obama logo's if I disappear for some time it's cause I'm being re-educated.
360 | Scorch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:05:14am |
re: #358 summergurl
Good morning. Still sweeping the cobwebs out myself.
361 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:05:57am |
re: #359 Rustler
//Yeah I Didn't want to say that out load as there are 4 scarey looking Suv's in our parkinglot with obama logo's if I disappear for some time it's cause I'm being re-educated.
They wouldn't have that problem with me. I was never EDUCATED in the 1st place!
362 | Scorch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:07:19am |
re: #359 Rustler
//Yeah I Didn't want to say that out load as there are 4 scarey looking Suv's in our parkinglot with obama logo's if I disappear for some time it's cause I'm being re-educated.
LOL good luck to them trying to re-educate you!
363 | SteveC Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:07:35am |
Good morning, all!
My PT test came back funky and my INR is a bit off. Gotta have my blood checked AGAIN today. *Sigh*
I keep telling them that my blood is just supercharged, but do they believe me? Noooooooooooooo!
365 | SteveC Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:10:47am |
re: #359 Rustler
//Yeah I Didn't want to say that out load as there are 4 scarey looking Suv's in our parkinglot with obama logo's if I disappear for some time it's cause I'm being re-educated.
SUV?
Obama Logos?
Somebody missed the point, right? That's like barbecue joints in the South that always have a drawing of a smiling pig. No one has ever told this pig exactly where 'Que comes from!
/No, you weren't invited over FOR dinner, you're going to BE dinner!
366 | Scorch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:15:23am |
re: #363 SteveC
Good morning, all!
My PT test came back funky and my INR is a bit off. Gotta have my blood checked AGAIN today. *Sigh*
I keep telling them that my blood is just supercharged, but do they believe me? Noooooooooooooo!
Good morning and hope you have more comforting results from the next round.
367 | 3 wood Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:17:43am |
Good morning.
Well, we are now at the point that the Obama administration is on the verge of mismanaging the recession into a full blown depression.
The credit markets are seizing up again in reaction to the gross incompetance of Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner. We are close to 4 weeks since Geithner puked on his shoes and ran out of the room, promising more details on his banking plan later. Well, there have been no further details, just a couple public comments by Geithner where he trashed the coal and banking industries, said taxes should be increased and complained that he can't get anybody to come work for him. This performance has convinced the bond market that he is out of his depth, will totally screw the pooch and so the corporate bond holders are scared that they will lose their investments. The TED spread has jumped in the past week.
Get ready for another large sell off in the market this week.
368 | Scorch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:18:04am |
I'm off to face the sunrise and stick a few more seeds in the ground. Have a great day all.
370 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:21:04am |
re: #365 SteveC
That's the point of the Obama administration it's all about do as I say not as I do. You know like how he reformed public schools yet is sending his daughters to private school.
371 | 3 wood Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:21:38am |
Administration Backers Plead for Patience on Economic Recovery Efforts
Concern is growing that the Obama administration's prescriptions for the ailing economy aren't working because the stock market still continues to collapse, unemployment rates are up and no signs of a turnaround can be seen yet, but the president's supporters say patience will pay off.
"I wouldn't measure the stock market over the day to day as to how well we're doing. I think that you're going to have to give the president's plans, which are just taking effect this week, some time to work," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said Sunday.
"It does take some time before things -- before people realize that the substance is actually getting better. My guess is that'll start later this year or the first part of next year, and we're moving aggressively to make sure that it does," said Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind
372 | SteveC Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:21:42am |
re: #366 Scorch
Good morning and hope you have more comforting results from the next round.
Thanks! it's not painful, just a pain. But I always let the student nurses listen to my heart, it's fun to see the looks on their faces!
And yeah, I probably am flirting just a little, but I've got a heartbeat that'll make your jaw drop. They may never hear a sound like that again.... or they may be in an ER somewhere, put a stethoscope on a patient in trouble, and say "Wait a minute, I've heard something like this before..." and be able to help that man/woman out.
You never know.
373 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:22:10am |
re: #367 3 wood
Good morning.
Well, we are now at the point that the Obama administration is on the verge of mismanaging the recession into a full blown depression.
The credit markets are seizing up again in reaction to the gross incompetance of Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner. We are close to 4 weeks since Geithner puked on his shoes and ran out of the room, promising more details on his banking plan later. Well, there have been no further details, just a couple public comments by Geithner where he trashed the coal and banking industries, said taxes should be increased and complained that he can't get anybody to come work for him. This performance has convinced the bond market that he is out of his depth, will totally screw the pooch and so the corporate bond holders are scared that they will lose their investments. The TED spread has jumped in the past week.
Get ready for another large sell off in the market this week.
Oh, good grief!
There goes the college fund.
And the retirement funds.
And really, well, everything.
Holy cow.
We are so screwed.
374 | SteveC Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:26:11am |
re: #373 reine.de.tout
Oh, good grief!
There goes the college fund.
And the retirement funds.
And really, well, everything.
Holy cow.
We are so screwed.
We ought to be getting used to it by now. We've been bent over the hood of the car, violated on the kitchen table, and rolled around on the living room floor. I don't think they've even gotten us to the bedroom yet.
/Bet they won't even love us in the morning.
375 | 3 wood Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:26:40am |
re: #369 MandyManners
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
I hope I'm wrong but the market has given up on this new administration.
Nothing they do makes sense in market terms, Obama has done everything he can to gum up the works, promised increased taxes, spending massive amounts of money we don't have, and is letting his Treasury Chief get away with doing nothing.
The key to moving the economy forward is stabilizing the banking industry. That is the whole ball game right there.
Obama has done nothing but hurt that effort since he has been in office.
It's like realizing that your new baseball team manager does not even know how to fill out a line up card.
376 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:26:51am |
I paid $50.00 for a carton of smokes yesterday. I wonder how expensive they will be after that fucking Commie bastard gets done taxing them. What's he gonna' do to my Basil Hayden's? $^)*&&^%%^^&*
377 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:26:57am |
re: #374 SteveC
We ought to be getting used to it by now. We've been bent over the hood of the car, violated on the kitchen table, and rolled around on the living room floor. I don't think they've even gotten us to the bedroom yet.
/Bet they won't even love us in the morning.
Heck, they haven't even kissed us first.
/now where did I put that jar of vaseline...
379 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:29:51am |
380 | SteveC Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:29:56am |
re: #376 MandyManners
I paid $50.00 for a carton of smokes yesterday. I wonder how expensive they will be after that fucking Commie bastard gets done taxing them. What's he gonna' do to my Basil Hayden's? $^)*&&^%%^^&*
Heard on the Bad News Today show that RJR was going to raise prices an average of 75 cents. And that is BEFORE any new taxes.
381 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:30:55am |
re: #375 3 wood
I hope I'm wrong but the market has given up on this new administration.
Nothing they do makes sense in market terms, Obama has done everything he can to gum up the works, promised increased taxes, spending massive amounts of money we don't have, and is letting his Treasury Chief get away with doing nothing.
The key to moving the economy forward is stabilizing the banking industry. That is the whole ball game right there.
Obama has done nothing but hurt that effort since he has been in office.
It's like realizing that your new baseball team manager does not even know how to fill out a line up card.
I read here yesterday that McCain said some banks should be allowed to fail. Just this morning I saw a clip on Fox in which Dick Shelby (on the Senate Banking Committee) said the same thing, specifically citing Citibank. Huh?
And, what's this about one of FCBBHO's minions saying last week that the FDIC needs lotsa' cash?
382 | 3 wood Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:31:29am |
re: #373 reine.de.tout
Oh, good grief!
There goes the college fund.
And the retirement funds.
And really, well, everything.
Holy cow.
We are so screwed.
I'm at the point where I think so.
Bush left the situation where with some competant handling the Obama Administration would have just had a normal recession to deal with. But Obama has done exactly the wrong thing at the wrong time, and I fear now that this is going to be really bad and last for a very long time.
But the MSM will adore the guy.
383 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:31:55am |
384 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:32:18am |
re: #380 SteveC
Heard on the Bad News Today show that RJR was going to raise prices an average of 75 cents. And that is BEFORE any new taxes.
What the fuck is RJR's problem?!
386 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:34:20am |
re: #384 MandyManners
Well we are feeling the pain up here too. My brand went up by about a quarter a pack last week. If you are paying $50 a carton, I think for once ours are cheaper then yours. When I lived on the border I would buy a carton of american smokes, Winstons, and save money. That's including the exchange rate as well.
387 | 3 wood Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:36:36am |
re: #381 MandyManners
I read here yesterday that McCain said some banks should be allowed to fail. Just this morning I saw a clip on Fox in which Dick Shelby (on the Senate Banking Committee) said the same thing, specifically citing Citibank. Huh?And, what's this about one of FCBBHO's minions saying last week that the FDIC needs lotsa' cash?
If the "mark to market" valuation model was dropped in favor of discounted cash flows, these banks would suddenly have double the capital on their books, there would then be a market for the mortgages and the credit would start moving, and the banking industry would become very stable again.
And the FDIC was having problems covering all the defaults, but that could have been taken care of quietly behind the scenes. Problem is, the FDIC head Blair said so publicly, thus causing an electronic run on the banks last week that badly damaged some of them.
390 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:37:41am |
re: #386 BlueCanuck
Well we are feeling the pain up here too. My brand went up by about a quarter a pack last week. If you are paying $50 a carton, I think for once ours are cheaper then yours. When I lived on the border I would buy a carton of american smokes, Winstons, and save money. That's including the exchange rate as well.
I've heard that federal taxes will be about .70/pack.
391 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:38:31am |
re: #387 3 wood
If the "mark to market" valuation model was dropped in favor of discounted cash flows, these banks would suddenly have double the capital on their books, there would then be a market for the mortgages and the credit would start moving, and the banking industry would become very stable again.
And the FDIC was having problems covering all the defaults, but that could have been taken care of quietly behind the scenes. Problem is, the FDIC head Blair said so publicly, thus causing an electronic run on the banks last week that badly damaged some of them.
All this cannot be merely bumbling incompetence.
392 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:38:59am |
re: #384 MandyManners
What the fuck is RJR's problem?!
Several factors is my guess
A) they are still paying for those massive loses they had in the courts years ago (class action suits and mostly the government cases)
B) domestically smoking is down, so they make up revenue on those that still do
393 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:39:23am |
You'd think that Obama would have more sympathy with smokers.
394 | rightside Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:39:55am |
re: #389 MandyManners
I gave up cigars when I quit smoking cigarettes. (just over 3 years now)The temptation I think would have been too great to pick up smokes again.
395 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:40:06am |
re: #382 3 wood
I'm at the point where I think so.
Bush left the situation where with some competant handling the Obama Administration would have just had a normal recession to deal with. But Obama has done exactly the wrong thing at the wrong time, and I fear now that this is going to be really bad and last for a very long time.
But the MSM will adore the guy.
I dunno.
I suspect their retirement accounts are disappearing at an alarming rate, also, and theirs were most likely much bigger than mine were.
396 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:40:13am |
re: #393 DistantThunder
You'd think that Obama would have more sympathy with smokers.
yeah ,,, like he goes down to the local 7/11 and buys a pack out of his own wallet!
397 | BlueCanuck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:40:25am |
re: #390 MandyManners
I've heard that federal taxes will be about .70/pack.
I believe that on a $10 dollar pack, over half is taxes. I am using a premium brand, bought in downtown store. Shopping around can get a better price, usually a dollar savings minimum.
398 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:40:43am |
re: #384 MandyManners
What the fuck is RJR's problem?!
They've gotten on the "stop smoking" bandwagon?
399 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:40:44am |
re: #392 sattv4u2
Several factors is my guess
A) they are still paying for those massive loses they had in the courts years ago (class action suits and mostly the government cases)
B) domestically smoking is down, so they make up revenue on those that still do
RJR is not the only game in town.
400 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:40:55am |
It's fiscal sabotage by political predators. American Thinker says it's Munchausen by Proxy - make the patient sick or sicker for the attention and aggrandizement when the patient recovers.
401 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:42:05am |
re: #393 DistantThunder
You'd think that Obama would have more sympathy with smokers.
What does he care?! He probably gets them tax-free. Or, maybe he uses the household budget (incidentals) to buy them.
403 | summergurl Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:43:01am |
re: #391 MandyManners
All this cannot be merely bumbling incompetence.
I think it's his plan - just like he wanted to snub Britain ...
A stack of DVD's as a gift? What a clod... or not...
404 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:43:29am |
re: #400 DistantThunder The problem is Munchausen by proxy can still cause death like it's looking will happen with the economy.
405 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:43:50am |
re: #403 summergurl
I think it's his plan - just like he wanted to snub Britain ...
A stack of DVD's as a gift? What a clod... or not...
I read that Gordon Brown is blind in one eye, and has serious vision issues with the other - what a slap in the face gift.
406 | summergurl Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:44:23am |
re: #401 MandyManners
What does he care?! He probably gets them tax-free. Or, maybe he uses the household budget (incidentals) to buy them.
Naw, he probably bums them from the Secret Service guys, that sounds more like him.
407 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:45:05am |
re: #394 rightside
I gave up cigars when I quit smoking cigarettes. (just over 3 years now)The temptation I think would have been too great to pick up smokes again.
It is stupid to pay $200.00/mo. for something that can endanger my health, isn't it?
408 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:45:36am |
One sign of narcissitic Prsnality Disorder is bad gift giving. Without the desire to imagine what the other person might enjoy, the narcissist is all about the cheapest and easiest gift. What is that quote about Daisy Buchannan and carelessness?
409 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:45:49am |
re: #397 BlueCanuck
I believe that on a $10 dollar pack, over half is taxes. I am using a premium brand, bought in downtown store. Shopping around can get a better price, usually a dollar savings minimum.
Ten dollars? That's $100.00/carton.
410 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:45:52am |
re: #406 summergurl //Nah that poor unpaid intern is Barack's Smoke Supplier :P
411 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:46:33am |
412 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:46:33am |
re: #407 MandyManners
Nah don't you realise healthcare will be free, free I tell ya.
413 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:47:21am |
re: #407 MandyManners
It is stupid to pay $200.00/mo. for something that can endanger my health, isn't it?
NO it makes perfect sense when you understand that the chemicals have altered your brain to create more craving receptors, so the withdrawl is exceptionally hard for some people. The manufacturers added extra nicotine for that exact outcome.
414 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:47:38am |
re: #400 DistantThunder
It's fiscal sabotage by political predators. American Thinker says it's Munchausen by Proxy - make the patient sick or sicker for the attention and aggrandizement when the patient recovers.
MbP? Wow. I've never thought about that angle.
415 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:48:55am |
re: #403 summergurl
I think it's his plan - just like he wanted to snub Britain ...
A stack of DVD's as a gift? What a clod... or not...
Who's gonna' be our next special ally? Fwance?
416 | BethesdaDog Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:49:12am |
OK, Charles.
No more birth certificate discussion.
No more about who really attacked the World Trade Center.
It's your board. You can do what you want.
We still haven't discussed whether the federal income tax is legal.
I assume that's OK.
417 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:49:23am |
Both my grandmother and my neighbor lost a long to lung cancer and were miserable after the operations. It was like suffocating every day. My neighbor said he couldn't hardly focus on conversations, he had to focus on breathing. Very alarming outcomes.
418 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:49:31am |
re: #411 MandyManners
Why?
No, it was a joke about the price of the pack of cigarettes being so high.
419 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:49:36am |
re: #406 summergurl
Naw, he probably bums them from the Secret Service guys, that sounds more like him.
I thought they didn't smoke.
420 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:50:12am |
re: #399 MandyManners
RJR is not the only game in town.
true ,, but ALL the manufacturers were called on the carpet by congress and the class action lawyers at about the same time.
421 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:50:52am |
Do they have smoking rehab facilities where they just chain you to a chair and bring you meals? I'd sign up for that if I smoked.
422 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:53:25am |
re: #421 DistantThunder
Do they have smoking rehab facilities where they just chain you to a chair and bring you meals? I'd sign up for that if I smoked.
There are ladies that for about $300 an hour will do that for you, complete with a "happy ending" !
BAD SATT ,,, BAD BAD BAD !
423 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:53:48am |
re: #408 DistantThunder
One sign of narcissitic Prsnality Disorder is bad gift giving. Without the desire to imagine what the other person might enjoy, the narcissist is all about the cheapest and easiest gift. What is that quote about Daisy Buchannan and carelessness?
It's not that the Narcissist has no desire to imagine what the other might enjoy, it's that the N. can NOT imagine that. He has no empathy.
424 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:54:25am |
re: #412 Rustler
Nah don't you realise healthcare will be free, free I tell ya.
Paid for by higher cigarette taxes.
426 | rightside Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:55:36am |
re: #407 MandyManners
As a former smoker, I know how hard it is. I finally said enough, and quit.
I'm sure you've heard the lecture, so I won't say anything about that. You are smart enough to decide what's best for you.
A carton here is about $30 roughly.
427 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:55:40am |
Behind the Brain Chemistry of Why it is so Difficult to Quit Smoking
Often, the depth of a person's addiction to nicotine can depend on their internal chemistry, says Jerry Stitzel, PhD, of the University of Colorado, who designed a study to evaluate the effects of nicotine over the course of a day.
Article describes various experiments and what they revealed about brain chemistry and smoking.
428 | aussiemagpie Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:57:28am |
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!
Lizard Island was in the news today....Snorkeller bitten by croc
And Cyclone Hamish has been downgraded and is tracking down the coast, 5% chance of landfall
What a relief!
429 | BethesdaDog Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:58:27am |
Gordon Brown does indeed have very serious vision problems. He's blind in one eye, and losing his vision in another.
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
I can't believe how stupid the White House staff and this President are...oh, yes I can.
It's just coming out faster than I thought it would. That's what happens when you elect a strutting adolescent who thinks he's just taken over the student government.
In all my life, and I've been around now for quite some time--having lived through more than half a dozen presidents as an adult--I've never once heard or read of anyone complaining they had to get out of the White House because of the pressure (and go to an elementary school for relief), or is overwhelmed by the workload and is "too tired."
He's a narcissistic spoiled brat. He's in way over his head.
430 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 4:59:09am |
re: #423 MandyManners
It's not that the Narcissist has no desire to imagine what the other might enjoy, it's that the N. can NOT imagine that. He has no empathy.
But the narcissist can imagine it when it suits his desire to manipulate the other person. Hence the focus on hope and change and Santa Claus promises. It borders on the sociopathic - people who can easily read people, but are not motivated by love, but rather power. They are too lazy to put themselves out most of the time, but when see a "mark" then they are highly motivated.
With Brown - obama figured that Brown already loved him so why bother.
431 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:00:05am |
re: #429 BethesdaDog
Gordon Brown does indeed have very serious vision problems. He's blind in one eye, and losing his vision in another.
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
I can't believe how stupid the White House staff and this President are...oh, yes I can.
It's just coming out faster than I thought it would. That's what happens when you elect a strutting adolescent who thinks he's just taken over the student government.
In all my life, and I've been around now for quite some time--having lived through more than half a dozen presidents as an adult--I've never once heard or read of anyone complaining they had to get out of the White House because of the pressure (and go to an elementary school for relief), or is overwhelmed by the workload and is "too tired."
He's a narcissistic spoiled brat. He's in way over his head.
Only Child Syndrome - arrogant brat who knows how to behave among certain people - and can when he wants to.
432 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:03:46am |
I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.
I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.
w00t
433 | rightside Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:04:54am |
re: #432 Erik The Red
Congrats! Where are you moving to here? State?
434 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:05:38am |
435 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:06:03am |
Good Morning all. A brand new Monday & the Dear Leader continues the searc for the "Moderate" Thal ee Bhan.
436 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:06:48am |
Did you miss me. Just woke up. Blissful, blissful slumber.
437 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:07:42am |
re: #436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did you miss me. Just woke up. Blissful, blissful slumber.
didn't even know you were gone!
//
438 | aussiemagpie Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:11:07am |
re: #432 Erik The Red
I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.
I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.
w00t
Wonderful news Erik :-) Good on you!
440 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:12:30am |
441 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:15:20am |
I don't believe it. The Kid turned up the heat to 84. I reckon he doesn't think $600.00/mo. for electricity is enough.
442 | aussiemagpie Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:15:33am |
re: #440 Erik The Red
Makes up for the very bad cricket.
Hey, I'm LOVING the cricket :-)
But your news is even better than the cricket...
443 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:16:08am |
Scouse Vasectomy
After having their 11th child, a Liverpool couple decided that was enough,
as the social wouldn't buy them a bigger bed and they weren't strong enough
to nick one.
The husband went to his doctor and told him that he and his wife didn't want
to have any more children.
The doctor told him there was a procedure called a vasectomy that would fix
the problem but it was expensive. A less costly alternative was to go home,
get a firework, light it, put it in a beer can, then hold the can up to his
ear and count to 10.
The Scouser said to the doctor, 'I may not be the smartest guy in the world,
but I don't see how putting a firework in a beer can next to my ear is going
to help me.'
'Trust me, it will do the job', said the doctor.
So the man went home, lit a banger and put it in a beer can. He held the can
up to his ear and began to count: '1, 2, 3, 4, 5,' at which point he
paused, placed the beer can between his legs so he could continue counting
on his other hand.
This procedure also works in Leatherhead, parts of Bradford and anywhere
in Wales .
444 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:16:40am |
THe Chicago Tribune reported yesterday that White House "Sources" are saying that Obama really did not snub Gordon Brown. It is just that our leader is exhausted from doing the work of the people. He is being advised to get more rest.
Also , the new Administration is not familiar with the diplomatic protocols.
Wasn't Emanuel in the Clinton Administration?
445 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:19:31am |
re: #430 DistantThunder
But the narcissist can imagine it when it suits his desire to manipulate the other person. Hence the focus on hope and change and Santa Claus promises. It borders on the sociopathic - people who can easily read people, but are not motivated by love, but rather power. They are too lazy to put themselves out most of the time, but when see a "mark" then they are highly motivated.
With Brown - obama figured that Brown already loved him so why bother.
Precisely! He does it not out of a desire to please for the sake of the other's pleasure per se but, out of a desire to rule. If that sorry motherfucker cared about America, he and his advisers would be busy working to do what is needed to turn this around instead of throwing parties and flying hither thither and yon touting what he has done to rescue a measly 27 jobs for which there will be no funding next year.
446 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:19:55am |
re: #432 Erik The Red
I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.
I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.
w00t
FANTASTIC!
447 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:20:12am |
re: #432 Erik The Red
I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.
I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.
w00t
Super-congratulations
448 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:22:36am |
re: #441 MandyManners
I don't believe it. The Kid turned up the heat to 84. I reckon he doesn't think $600.00/mo. for electricity is enough.
Mine left the hose running all night. Yard is flooded and well pump working round the clock.
449 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:22:53am |
re: #413 DistantThunder
NO it makes perfect sense when you understand that the chemicals have altered your brain to create more craving receptors, so the withdrawl is exceptionally hard for some people. The manufacturers added extra nicotine for that exact outcome.
The nicotine clears the body in (?) 72 hours but, what's the hard part for me is the mental addiction. I grab my cup of coffee and drink, I reach for a smoke. I sit down at the computer, I reach for a smoke.
450 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:23:16am |
451 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:23:37am |
re: #448 DistantThunder Wait til later today when you see him and his bike the Hose was intentional :P.
452 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:24:32am |
re: #432 Erik The Red
Grats and Good luck. Now to teach the kids to be americans outside what they learned from Hanna Montana :P.
453 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:24:47am |
re: #448 DistantThunder
Mine left the hose running all night. Yard is flooded and well pump working round the clock.
Bless their hearts! I've often thought that if our brains suddenly reverted to what we had when we were there ages, we'd go stark, raving insane.
It's warm here but, it got a bit chilly this morning so he cranked it up.
454 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:26:31am |
Good Morning Lizards!
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it." -- Mark Twain
Ours does not deserve it right now. (OK, maybe that is a slight understatement)
455 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:26:55am |
re: #444 opnion
THe Chicago Tribune reported yesterday that White House "Sources" are saying that Obama really did not snub Gordon Brown. It is just that our leader is exhausted from doing the work of the people. He is being advised to get more rest.
Also , the new Administration is not familiar with the diplomatic protocols.
Wasn't Emanuel in the Clinton Administration?
I'm not buying that bullshit. There are people who do nothing but deal with protocol. Kilgore pointed out yesterday that we pay someone about $52,000.00/year to do nothing but figure out what to give as gifts from the White House.
What he did was DELIBERATE.
456 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:26:58am |
re: #432 Erik The Red
I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.
I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.
w00t
Congratulations Erik! So what now?
458 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:28:01am |
re: #432 Erik The Red
I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.
I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.
w00t
FINALLY ,,,,,, LEGAL immigrants coming to Florida !
CONGRATS ,,, WELCOME ,,,
459 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:29:20am |
re: #452 Rustler
Grats and Good luck. Now to teach the kids to be americans outside what they learned from Hanna Montana :P.
LOL. Thanks. You should hear my 11 yo. She can really put the accent on. I give her 1 month in a US school and her S African accent will be gone.
460 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:30:03am |
461 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:32:39am |
re: #444 opnion
THe Chicago Tribune reported yesterday that White House "Sources" are saying that Obama really did not snub Gordon Brown. It is just that our leader is exhausted from doing the work of the people. He is being advised to get more rest.
Also , the new Administration is not familiar with the diplomatic protocols.
Wasn't Emanuel in the Clinton Administration?
So we have the first excuse about, "Gee this job is hard?" Was waiting to see the first time that was used an excuse. Under 60 days.
Impressive. They are just going to blow me out of the water with the speed in which they are able to make excuses.
I do not recall (not even once) the Bush White House saying...
"Gosh, we're just so exhausted."
462 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:32:51am |
Interesting goings-on in Connecticut., where the state considers a law to force the Catholic Church to organize in a way the State dictates.
463 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:32:53am |
re: #456 Ford_Prefect
Congratulations Erik! So what now?
Get over there by June, find a business to buy and buy some cheap realstate.
464 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:33:01am |
re: #459 Erik The Red
That's good. Since your kids aren't citizens I assume you married a woman from S.A. otherwise since both Parents were citizens it should have been no issue getting them citizen status?
465 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:33:17am |
re: #459 Erik The Red
LOL. Thanks. You should hear my 11 yo. She can really put the accent on. I give her 1 month in a US school and her S African accent will be gone.
She probabbly already has better diction and grammer than most of her future classmates. be VERY careful what school district you locate too
466 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:33:35am |
re: #432 Erik The Red
I AM A VERY HAPPY LIZARD TODAY.
I just got an email from the Consulate saying that my families immigrant visas and green card have been approved.
w00t
Great news!
467 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:33:39am |
re: #455 MandyManners
I'm not buying that bullshit. There are people who do nothing but deal with protocol. Kilgore pointed out yesterday that we pay someone about $52,000.00/year to do nothing but figure out what to give as gifts from the White House.
What he did was DELIBERATE.
Theere is no doubt that it was a deliberate snub.
When he was offered the opportunity to continue the usage of the Winston Churchill portrait, the appropriate answer is thank you, not take it back.
468 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:33:49am |
re: #444 opnion
Would be kind of funny if Obama began to keep the Bush sleep schedule... Wasn't W in bed by 10 or something?
469 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:34:00am |
Protecting your kids doesn't just mean making sure they don't run with scissors.
US Public Schools Teaching Children Pro-Islamic Propaganda
*snippets
Christianity was started by a young Palestinian named Jesus and the 9/11 murderers were not Islamic Fundamentalists but simply a generic "teams of terrorists." That's the caliber of politically corrected crap many of our children are being taught in American public schools -- and it's past time all parents took serious notice.
It calls the Ten Commandments "moral laws Moses claimed to have received from the Hebrew God," while the entry for the Koran contains no such qualifier in saying it is the "Holy Book of Islam containing revelations received by Muhammad from God."
"On the morning of September 11, 2001, teams of terrorists hijacked four airplanes on the East Coast. Passengers challenged the hijackers on one flight, which they crashed on the way to its target. But one plane plunged in to the Pentagon in Virginia, and two others slammed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York. More than 2,500 people were killed in the attacks."
"Jihad is defined as a struggle within each individual to overcome difficulties and strive to please god. Sometimes it may be a physical struggle for protection against enemies," the book reads, noting that Islam teaches "that Muslims should fulfill jihad with the heart, tongue and hand. Muslims use the heart in their struggle to resist evil."
Discuss what they're being taught, and be prepared to teach them the truth. Teach them about Jesus, or Israel, or both. Once they're old enough to understand, teach them about 9/11. Teach them about Sharia and jihad and oppressed women and terrorism and honor killings and barbaric execution methods. Teach them that only just and nurturing cultures deserve to be celebrated, not diversity itself.
What are your kids being taught?
470 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:34:09am |
re: #449 MandyManners
The nicotine clears the body in (?) 72 hours but, what's the hard part for me is the mental addiction. I grab my cup of coffee and drink, I reach for a smoke. I sit down at the computer, I reach for a smoke.
The nicotine increases the number of craving receptors so especially after all the nicotine has left your system all those old receptors AND the newer ones all go crazy. Even after 72 hours. It's like the nicotine turns your brain into a frankenstein brain that turns against you. It takes a much longer time to restore a more normal chemistry with the right number of craving receptors. I saw a graphic presentation on this once.
471 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:34:31am |
re: #461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So we have the first excuse about, "Gee this job is hard?" Was waiting to see the first time that was used an excuse. Under 60 days.
Impressive. They are just going to blow me out of the water with the speed in which they are able to make excuses.
I do not recall (not even once) the Bush White House saying...
"Gosh, we're just so exhausted."
Neva
472 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:35:38am |
re: #449 MandyManners
I'll be quitting soon. Smokes are going up a buck a pack in VA. Am not going to pay it.
Just not going to do it.
473 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:36:32am |
re: #464 Rustler
That's good. Since your kids aren't citizens I assume you married a woman from S.A. otherwise since both Parents were citizens it should have been no issue getting them citizen status?
Long story. Yes my wife is S African(Portuguese parents). Because I moved here when I was 15 they are not entitled to US Citizenship by birth. They can get it fairly quickly once we are in the US. But still had to get them immigrant visas to start.
All good now :)
474 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:37:25am |
re: #461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So we have the first excuse about, "Gee this job is hard?" Was waiting to see the first time that was used an excuse. Under 60 days.
Impressive. They are just going to blow me out of the water with the speed in which they are able to make excuses.
I do not recall (not even once) the Bush White House saying...
"Gosh, we're just so exhausted."
Obama has always been a slacker. His reputation was doing half days in the Illinois Senate.
One of the first things he said after being inaugerated is "I didn't realise that all of the decisions are so big."
He probably has trouble with , "paper or plastic?" He is way out of his depth.
475 | DistantThunder Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:38:01am |
476 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:38:59am |
re: #465 sattv4u2
She probabbly already has better diction and grammer than most of her future classmates. be VERY careful what school district you locate too
Looking at Catholic schools in the Seminole County area. They are at an all girls school here and we want to keep things as easy for their transition. We will look at moving them after a year or two.
477 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:39:17am |
re: #462 reine.de.tout
Interesting goings-on in Connecticut., where the state considers a law to force the Catholic Church to organize in a way the State dictates.
Un-effing-believable. The people in my state of CT are seriously off the deep end. I will be getting this info out to as many people as I can.
478 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:39:26am |
re: #473 Erik The Red Ahh you hadn't achieved your Majority yet either yeah shouldn't be much of a problem tho.
479 | Bloodnok Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:39:37am |
re: #472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'll be quitting soon. Smokes are going up a buck a pack in VA. Am not going to pay it.
Just not going to do it.
I just quit. MA is up to 7.50 (or maybe 8.50 now). I got lucky with the cravings (cold turkey worked) but I have the nagging cough as my lungs heal up.
480 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:39:38am |
re: #463 Erik The Red
Get over there by June, find a business to buy and buy some cheap realstate.
Where are you planning on settling?
482 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:41:15am |
Funny took me what 3 months to get an avatar and its changed 4 times in the last 2 or 3 weeks since I got it.
483 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:41:45am |
484 | summergurl Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:41:59am |
re: #461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So we have the first excuse about, "Gee this job is hard?" Was waiting to see the first time that was used an excuse. Under 60 days.
Impressive. They are just going to blow me out of the water with the speed in which they are able to make excuses.
I do not recall (not even once) the Bush White House saying...
"Gosh, we're just so exhausted."
That's because George was not in over his head.
485 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:42:13am |
re: #479 Bloodnok
I just quit. MA is up to 7.50 (or maybe 8.50 now). I got lucky with the cravings (cold turkey worked) but I have the nagging cough as my lungs heal up.
Just can't wait for the states to start complaining about the loss in revenue.
One guy left smoking...two packs a day, $10,000,000.00 per pack.
486 | Jetpilot1101 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:42:36am |
Good Morning Lizards,
I just checked in to read 3 Wood's comments and see what his opinion on the market was for this week. It's going to suck, it's raining in Cape Cod, what a great start for the week.
But at least I know there are like minded folks out there, I'm optimistic we'll get out of this eventually.
JP1101
487 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:42:44am |
re: #482 Rustler
The one you have is such a keeper.
488 | Bloodnok Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:43:01am |
re: #485 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just can't wait for the states to start complaining about the loss in revenue.
One guy left smoking...two packs a day, $10,000,000.00 per pack.
Christopher Hitchens will certainly keep his state afloat.
489 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:43:58am |
re: #467 opnion
Theere is no doubt that it was a deliberate snub.
When he was offered the opportunity to continue the usage of the Winston Churchill portrait, the appropriate answer is thank you, not take it back.
That was a gift to the people of the U.S., not to Obama personally.
He had no right to "give it back".
490 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:44:48am |
re: #483 Erik The Red
Central Florida
I was going to suggest CT, we need more conservatives up here, but then I saw Reine's link above. You are smart to stay away from here.
491 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:46:50am |
re: #489 reine.de.tout
That was a gift to the people of the U.S., not to Obama personally.
He had no right to "give it back".
Exactly right. These two are vulgarians.
492 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:46:51am |
re: #477 Ford_Prefect
Un-effing-believable. The people in my state of CT are seriously off the deep end. I will be getting this info out to as many people as I can.
It is un-effing-believable, isn't it?
Getting the word out would be great!
493 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:49:49am |
re: #490 Ford_Prefect
I was going to suggest CT, we need more conservatives up here, but then I saw Reine's link above. You are smart to stay away from here.
I HATE SNOW. Sorry Ford I have to be in warmer climates.
494 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:50:21am |
re: #475 DistantThunder
New approaches to quiting smoking based on receptor research.
That is good news!
Zyban made my heart race at a scary pace, and I have an allergy to the patches, which I wore for awhile with great success - until the allergy kicked in big-time and I had huge red welts all over.
495 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:51:09am |
re: #490 Ford_Prefect
I was going to suggest CT, we need more conservatives up here, but then I saw Reine's link above. You are smart to stay away from here.
Looking at the last electoral map, we need more "conservatives" LOTS of places. Sorry, but Florida is a key state. I'm glad he and his family are going somewhere like that (or Penn,, Ohio ,,,, swing states with large electoral numbers)
496 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:51:32am |
re: #493 Erik The Red
I HATE SNOW. Sorry Ford I have to be in warmer climates.
And your kids should love Florida.
497 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:52:22am |
498 | Bloodnok Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:52:52am |
Grumble-grumble.
I did not take my vacation days and come to visit my mother in NH to shovel 6 inches of snow! It's amazing how you can come back and instantly feel like you are 14 again. BBL.
499 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:53:51am |
re: #487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Which one fluffy or the new get of my lawn one?
500 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:54:33am |
501 | Miss Trixie Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:55:32am |
♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪
Blustery, with flurries in the valley and that wind from the east chills me right to the bone.
*shiver*
reine
Zyban made my heart race at a scary pace, and I have an allergy to the patches, which I wore for awhile with great success - until the allergy kicked in big-time and I had huge red welts all over.
That happened to a friend of mine only it was caused by guys touching her with ten-foot poles.
:P
502 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:56:02am |
re: #492 reine.de.tout
It is un-effing-believable, isn't it?
Getting the word out would be great!
I just posted it on my facebook page. Hopefully my fellow CT friends will pass it along to their friends.
503 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:56:40am |
re: #500 Erik The Red
If your close the season passes can save you a lot of cash. Last time I looked at the 3 park season passes they ran about the price of 10 trips to one of the parks and work at Disney, Seaworld and I think it was Universal.
505 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:57:27am |
re: #493 Erik The Red
I HATE SNOW. Sorry Ford I have to be in warmer climates.
That's fine. Just watch out for those hurricanes. :-)
506 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:57:45am |
Good morning, Lizards! Any fruit cup left for a guy who has had 7 hours sleep in two days?
507 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:59:05am |
re: #505 Ford_Prefect
That's fine. Just watch out for those hurricanes. :-)
One of the reasons I choose Central Fl. and not the Gulf Coast. I love the Tampa area but not the chance of getting blown away.
509 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:59:45am |
re: #500 Erik The Red
Shhhh. don't let them hear you. I have already been wrapped around their fingers. I am in for a season pass the first year we are there.
You'll LOVE SeaWorld. If the 'pass' doesn;t include it, fork over the extra $$$ and do a day at Discovery Cove!
510 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:02:36am |
re: #499 Rustler
Fluffy. Still appears as "fluffy" to me.
511 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:03:20am |
re: #510 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Lol it was for me too til I closed out and came back but if you click fluffy you see the new one.
512 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:03:52am |
BTW...had 9 inches of snow last Monday. 80 degrees today.
513 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:04:43am |
re: #511 Rustler
I can see "fluffy" without clicking the avatar. That's cool. Plus, it looks so damn real.
514 | lifeofthemind Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:05:01am |
This belongs on yesterday's thread but my timing is off.
515 | Rustler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:05:03am |
re: #503 Rustler
Not seeing the season or year passes with Seaworld and such anymore.
516 | SasquatchOnSteroids Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:05:23am |
re: #512 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
BTW...had 9 inches of snow last Monday. 80 degrees today.
Climate Chaos !
Hide the children !
517 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:05:38am |
Good morning y'all - from a pleasant (59 degrees, going up to 80 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?
518 | yesandno Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:07:20am |
This is very scary:
[Link: catholickey.blogspot.com...]
A bill in Connecticut that came out of the Judiciary Comm. that would replace the Catholic Bishop's authority in areas of finance, etc., with selected layman, leaving the Bishop only controling religious matters.
Wow....
Here is the portion of the bill that covers this proposal:
[Link: www.cga.ct.gov...]
519 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:07:28am |
Hmmm - what did everyone forget to change their clocks? Hello?
521 | VioletTiger Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:08:17am |
Good morning lizards. How is everyone today?
Made the mistake of turning on the news this morning. Nothing good--North Korea is playing war and the DOW set to tank again today. And the kindergartners are in charge. Lovely.
522 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:08:33am |
re: #517 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a pleasant (59 degrees, going up to 80 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?
Morning, Real! How's things?
523 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:08:45am |
re: #521 VioletTiger
Let's hope they got some "nappy time" this weekend.
524 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:09:04am |
re: #517 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a pleasant (59 degrees, going up to 80 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?
Morning real. It is 40 degrees and raining here in CT. Other than that, and the usual slow burning rage about what our government, local, state and federal, is doing to us, I am great!
525 | lifeofthemind Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:09:31am |
526 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:09:33am |
Well for those of you who could use a chuckle (or three or four) here's todays Day by Day cartoon:
[Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]
And I think the private american citizen they're talking about is the 14 year old wunderkind of the Conservative movement!
527 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:10:07am |
re: #520 Fat Bastard Vegetarian hello - how are ya doing today?
528 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:10:59am |
re: #518 yesandno
Reine posted a link about it just upstream. I live in CT and intend to tell everyone I know about this outrage.
529 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:11:56am |
re: #522 Wyatt Earp
Hey howdy Wyatt - things are pretty good hear - other than Obama is still clueless and it's hurting folks all across America more and more with every passing day!
The rest of the world is bitching about him too, but screw them, we gotta put up with him for almost 4 more years.
How are you doing Wyatt?
530 | yesandno Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:13:03am |
re: #528 Ford_Prefect
Reine posted a link about it just upstream. I live in CT and intend to tell everyone I know about this outrage.
Thanks for the heads up...didn't read the posts prior to posting. Glad someone is on this.....cannot believe things like this are even possible, nevermind happening.
531 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:14:15am |
re: #529 realwest
Hey howdy Wyatt - things are pretty good hear - other than Obama is still clueless and it's hurting folks all across America more and more with every passing day!
The rest of the world is bitching about him too, but screw them, we gotta put up with him for almost 4 more years.
How are you doing Wyatt?
Same as always. Waiting for the torches and pitchforks to march on D.C.!
532 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:14:58am |
Some snippets from an American Thinker article that posted on Saturday. Sorry if this was already discussed over the weekend.
"The morning conference call and Democrat media manipulation"
"Every morning, a group of old friends have a nice chat. ABC's George Stephanopoulos, CNN's James Carville, CNN commentator Paul Begala, and Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel have a wide ranging conference call, usually starting just before dawn. Democrat Pollster Stan Greenberg is a frequent participant. They examine current events and how they fit into the new administrations policies. They determine how to best get their message to the public."
"When they next appear on various programs as interviewers or interviewees, their comments do not conflict with each other. They have coordinated the broad themes and the topics, and after that early morning phone call they coordinate with their personal networks and associates, influencing and coaxing the comment and reportage on specific issues nationwide."
"From an information consumer's standpoint it is disturbing that several main networks are so tuned into White House message shaping. How can the citizen expect accurate analysis and reportage when the "journalists" that present it are so tied into the party in power?"
533 | lifeofthemind Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:16:02am |
re: #528 Ford_Prefect
Reine posted a link about it just upstream. I live in CT and intend to tell everyone I know about this outrage.
More Nutmeg state nuttery: Lieberman praises Obama. I think I want my handshake back.
534 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:16:46am |
re: #518 yesandno
For what it's worth, that HAS to be unconstitutional.
535 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:18:45am |
re: #531 Wyatt Earp Uh, would it be okay if I sorta RODE instead of marched? I mean, I ain't as strong as I used to be with these meds and all - but I could sure stand up and swing a wild torch and stick a pitchfork into some folks who need to be stuck! LOL!
536 | lifeofthemind Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:20:42am |
re: #534 realwest
For what it's worth, that HAS to be unconstitutional.
Just make it even across the board, same rules for every mosque and storefront inner city community action church with a government funded shakedown community organizer and housing operation on the side. See how long that idea would last.
537 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:20:57am |
re: #535 realwest
Uh, would it be okay if I sorta RODE instead of marched? I mean, I ain't as strong as I used to be with these meds and all - but I could sure stand up and swing a wild torch and stick a pitchfork into some folks who need to be stuck! LOL!
Maybe we can do a Haunted Hayride setup?
538 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:20:59am |
re: #533 lifeofthemind
More Nutmeg state nuttery: Lieberman praises Obama. I think I want my handshake back.
You know, there are times when I like Lieberman, but then he always goes and does something like this and I lose all respect for him. When he allied himself with Al Gore he really alienated a lot of people. Then he supported the war on terror and my respect went up. Now it is back down.
539 | Leonidas Hoplite Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:21:27am |
re: #521 VioletTiger
Good morning lizards. How is everyone today?
Made the mistake of turning on the news this morning. Nothing good--North Korea is playing war and the DOW set to tank again today. And the kindergartners are in charge. Lovely.
Is martial law in Mexico still in place?
540 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:21:44am |
re: #536 lifeofthemind
Just make it even across the board, same rules for every mosque and storefront inner city community action church with a government funded shakedown community organizer and housing operation on the side. See how long that idea would last.
And have Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson give up their empires ?! NEVAH GONNA HAPPEN !
541 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:22:10am |
re: #533 lifeofthemind
Morning to you! I read that same article and still don't understand it; Lieberman is a lot of things, but a STUPID politician isn't one of 'em. He's not up for re-election and he comes out playing nice with a guy who - with less than two full months in office under his belt - is already starting to look like the worst President we've ever had. I don't understand Lieberman at all. And I understand the folks in New England even less!
542 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:23:50am |
re: #534 realwest
For what it's worth, that HAS to be unconstitutional.
[Amendment I]
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I would say so.
543 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:23:52am |
re: #536 lifeofthemind
Just make it even across the board, same rules for every mosque and storefront inner city community action church with a government funded shakedown community organizer and housing operation on the side. See how long that idea would last.
okay, I get where you're coming from on this . . . but please tell me you don't really equate the Catholic Church with every mosque and storefront inner-city community action church!
544 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:24:08am |
re: #537 Wyatt Earp
Well, actually, I was thinking more of a Ferrari or something, but long as I get there in time to light the first torch and/or jab the first pitchfork, however I get there's ok by me!
545 | VioletTiger Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:24:27am |
re: #532 Ford_Prefect
Unbelievable. This doesn't even sound like it could happen in the USA. It sounds like Cuba or Venezuela. Controlling the press is the first step to controlling the people.
546 | Beach Lover Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:16am |
re: #532 Ford_Prefect
We can only hope that someone that has guts on the Republican side will finally quit worrying about their own skin and show some anger about what this administration is doing to our nation. Rush can only do so much....he is mostly preaching to the choir. We need someone in office to show some outrage. Maybe the MSM would show it if for no other reason than their desire for ratings. We need to play them at their own game.
547 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:36am |
re: #532 Ford_Prefect
Wow.
That's just as scary as the other thing.
548 | Spare O'Lake Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:42am |
re: #541 realwest
Morning to you! I read that same article and still don't understand it; Lieberman is a lot of things, but a STUPID politician isn't one of 'em. He's not up for re-election and he comes out playing nice with a guy who - with less than two full months in office under his belt - is already starting to look like the worst President we've ever had. I don't understand Lieberman at all. And I understand the folks in New England even less!
What's to understand? He a ho.
549 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:50am |
re: #542 Ford_Prefect
Good morning Ford - yeah, just some stupid state legislators politicking again. I always thought that most of the nuts were in California - goes to show how little I know!
550 | VioletTiger Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:26:11am |
re: #527 realwest
Did you enjoy the nice weather this weekend? The beach was beautiful yesterday. Some guy made a little snowman and put it next to his kid's sandcastle. It was about 75F.
552 | Ward Cleaver Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:26:33am |
re: #518 yesandno
This is very scary:
[Link: catholickey.blogspot.com...]
A bill in Connecticut that came out of the Judiciary Comm. that would replace the Catholic Bishop's authority in areas of finance, etc., with selected layman, leaving the Bishop only controling religious matters.
Wow....
Here is the portion of the bill that covers this proposal:
[Link: www.cga.ct.gov...]
It's no surprise that the idea was started by "Voice of the Faithful", a group of moonbatty Catholics who are trying to tear down the Church.
553 | lifeofthemind Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:26:33am |
re: #541 realwest
Morning to you! I read that same article and still don't understand it; Lieberman is a lot of things, but a STUPID politician isn't one of 'em. He's not up for re-election and he comes out playing nice with a guy who - with less than two full months in office under his belt - is already starting to look like the worst President we've ever had. I don't understand Lieberman at all. And I understand the folks in New England even less!
Joe reminds me of what a girl said about her first husband, he never disappointed in that he always disappointed. There should be an opening for a real Republican, internationalist, anti-terror, anti-kleptocrat, to run and even get in if the Democrats split again. Last time they ran another milquetoast Willkie and went nowhere.
554 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:26:57am |
Joke of the day:
from AP:
WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama is ending former President George W. Bush's limits on using federal dollars for embryonic stem cell research, with advisers calling the move a clear signal that science — not political ideology — will guide the administration.
OH REALLY Mr. Obama. Could you please explain the science behind raising taxes during a recession and the effects on the economy? I remember your arguement was "raising taxes would be more FAIR" even though it was pointed out to you that doing so would DECREASE revenues to the government. This is science Mr. Obama, but you choose to ignore this fact because of your political ideology.
Another day, another lie.
Good morning lizards!
555 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:27:16am |
re: #536 lifeofthemind
Just make it even across the board, same rules for every mosque and storefront inner city community action church with a government funded shakedown community organizer and housing operation on the side. See how long that idea would last.
The government has no business telling any religious organization how to organize itself or who should be in charge. That is a blatant violation of their rights. Making it the same for everyone does not lessen the violation.
556 | Ward Cleaver Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:27:45am |
re: #534 realwest
For what it's worth, that HAS to be unconstitutional.
It's definitely an infringement on religious liberty.
557 | lifeofthemind Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:29:10am |
re: #555 Ford_Prefect
Oh grief, I'm out of here
558 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:29:31am |
re: #532 Ford_Prefect Hey Ford, for what it's worth I recommended that comment of yours to Charles in hopes he'll make a thread out of it.
Maybe if enough of us do that, he'll get the idea (I'm using IE7 so can only report, not recommend!).
559 | tfc3rid Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:29:42am |
To the Norks...
Wanna play Russian Roulette? Let's play...
Am I the only one who wants the US to try and shoot down whatever they launch?
560 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:29:47am |
re: #554 bellamags
Joke of the day:
from AP:
OH REALLY Mr. Obama. Could you please explain the science behind raising taxes during a recession and the effects on the economy? I remember your arguement was "raising taxes would be more FAIR" even though it was pointed out to you that doing so would DECREASE revenues to the government. This is science Mr. Obama, but you choose to ignore this fact because of your political ideology.Another day, another lie.
Good morning lizards!
As Bill Bennett said this morning, they have been doing the research for a while, and the fact that private industry hasn't begun sponsoring it shows that the results have not bene forthcoming. Strangely enough, better results have been achieved with adult stem cells!
561 | sattv4u2 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:30:21am |
562 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:30:44am |
re: #554 bellamags
Morning bella. You are fired up this AM.
563 | VioletTiger Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:30:48am |
re: #554 bellamags
Good morning Bellamags.
The problem is that liberalism isn't a science, it is a psychosis. And they want to make us all as crazy as they are.
564 | yesandno Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:31:06am |
re: #546 Beach Lover
We can only hope that someone that has guts on the Republican side will finally quit worrying about their own skin and show some anger about what this administration is doing to our nation. Rush can only do so much....he is mostly preaching to the choir. We need someone in office to show some outrage. Maybe the MSM would show it if for no other reason than their desire for ratings. We need to play them at their own game.
There are some out there...but have been tainted by the dems so bad they no longer are in office. But they are still speaking out.....Santorum and Allen come to mind.
Problem is, people don't like the truth when the truth doesn't "feel" good.
565 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:31:23am |
One of the network affiliates in Chicago (can't remember which one)
reported that last weekend Michelle Obama needed to relieve the stress of the White House.
She went back to Chicago to have lunch with her BFF's. Barry insisted that she take The Airforce One, not some lesser jet.
So see, how could she have tea with Britains First Lady?
566 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:31:45am |
re: #560 Wyatt Earp
As Bill Bennett said this morning, they have been doing the research for a while, and the fact that private industry hasn't begun sponsoring it shows that the results have not bene forthcoming. Strangely enough, better results have been achieved with adult stem cells!
I really don't know enough to have a valid opinion on stem cell research, but my problem is with his reasons. He is pandering to the far left and lying about it.
567 | VioletTiger Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:20am |
re: #559 tfc3rid
To the Norks...
Wanna play Russian Roulette? Let's play...
Am I the only one who wants the US to try and shoot down whatever they launch?
Yeah, if adults were in charge. The kiddies we have in charge don't have the gonads.
568 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:26am |
re: #558 realwest
Hey Ford, for what it's worth I recommended that comment of yours to Charles in hopes he'll make a thread out of it.
Maybe if enough of us do that, he'll get the idea (I'm using IE7 so can only report, not recommend!).
Thanks. How do you recommend, anyway? Never done it.
569 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:41am |
re: #562 Ford_Prefect
Morning bella. You are fired up this AM.
YES. after reading your comment earlier regarding the brainwashing by the media.
I HAVE THE DAY OFF and I don't know what to do with myself.
570 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:55am |
re: #548 Spare O'Lake Well of course he's a ho - he's a politician, but why back Obama NOW? What's Obama gonna do for Joe?
Ho or no ho, there's gotta be payment made for services rendered, ya know?
571 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:33:21am |
re: #563 VioletTiger
Good morning Bellamags.
The problem is that liberalism isn't a science, it is a psychosis. And they want to make us all as
crazystoopid as they are.
LOL fixed it. ; )
572 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:34:10am |
573 | yesandno Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:34:37am |
re: #565 opnion
One of the network affiliates in Chicago (can't remember which one)
reported that last weekend Michelle Obama needed to relieve the stress of the White House.
She went back to Chicago to have lunch with her BFF's. Barry insisted that she take The Airforce One, not some lesser jet.
So see, how could she have tea with Britains First Lady?
A HUGE carbon butt print.
574 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:03am |
re: #550 VioletTiger
Good morning back t o you VioletTiger! Yes I did have a nice weekend, though I don't know where you'd have to be to have a snowman and a sand castle peacefully co-existing!
576 | pingjockey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:31am |
Mornin' all from a damn chilly, 26 degrees, Pacific Northwest. We had a inch of snow Sat. night.
577 | Beach Lover Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:39am |
re: #565 opnion
Are you kidding me?! I had not heard this before. These people are more like the "Jefferson's" everyday.
578 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:52am |
re: #566 bellamags
I really don't know enough to have a valid opinion on stem cell research, but my problem is with his reasons. He is pandering to the far left and lying about it.
Well, he has to go with his strengths!
:)
579 | VioletTiger Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:01am |
re: #539 Leonidas Hoplite
Is martial law in Mexico still in place?
The body count is going up and they are expecting it to spread North into the US. Has someone sent the memo to Janet?
580 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:21am |
re: #565 opnion
One of the network affiliates in Chicago (can't remember which one)
reported that last weekend Michelle Obama needed to relieve the stress of the White House.
She went back to Chicago to have lunch with her BFF's. Barry insisted that she take The Airforce One, not some lesser jet.
So see, how could she have tea with Britains First Lady?
She is simply a despicable person. Obama deserves her.
581 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:59am |
582 | VioletTiger Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:59am |
re: #574 realwest
Good morning back t o you VioletTiger! Yes I did have a nice weekend, though I don't know where you'd have to be to have a snowman and a sand castle peacefully co-existing!
The Jersey shoer, of course. There was 12 inches of snow on Monday, and sandcastles on Saturday.
583 | rightside Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:37:17am |
re: #579 VioletTiger
She got that memo. She burns it in the fireplace to warm our white house. The one you could grow orchids in.
584 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:37:32am |
re: #578 Wyatt Earp
Well, he has to go with his strengths!
:)
Wyatt - you are sparklingly optimistic this morning. : )
585 | Beach Lover Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:38:04am |
re: #579 VioletTiger
didn't you hear? Janet says it isn't a problem.
/
586 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:38:24am |
re: #582 VioletTiger
The Jersey shoer, of course. There was 12 inches of snow on Monday, and sandcastles on Saturday.
Here in lovely Central Mass, it was in the 60's yesterday and today we get 3-5 inches of snow followed by sleet and freezing rain.
588 | Spare O'Lake Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:39:13am |
re: #570 realwest
Well of course he's a ho - he's a politician, but why back Obama NOW? What's Obama gonna do for Joe?
Ho or no ho, there's gotta be payment made for services rendered, ya know?
Go figure the deal those two whores would make.
Probably a slab of pork and a third round draft pick.
589 | summergurl Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:40:02am |
re: #565 opnion
One of the network affiliates in Chicago (can't remember which one)
reported that last weekend Michelle Obama needed to relieve the stress of the White House.
She went back to Chicago to have lunch with her BFF's. Barry insisted that she take The Airforce One, not some lesser jet.
So see, how could she have tea with Britains First Lady?
THE STRESS?
I have no issue with her using Air Force 1, she is the First Lady after all.... but she thinks she is stressed?
Maybe they really have to DO SOMETHING this time - not just show up and expect to be given preferential treatment.
590 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:40:04am |
re: #560 Wyatt Earp
As Bill Bennett said this morning, they have been doing the research for a while, and the fact that private industry hasn't begun sponsoring it shows that the results have not bene forthcoming. Strangely enough, better results have been achieved with adult stem cells!
This is poltically motivated to suuport Roe V Wade.
When BHO was the only Illinois State Senator to support denying medical care to the survivor of a botched abortion (infanticide), he said that it was to protect Roe V Wade.
592 | VioletTiger Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:40:43am |
re: #585 Beach Lover
didn't you hear? Janet says it isn't a problem.
/
Geez, there are more drug cartel soldiers than Mexican soldiers. I think it is a big problem. Once again, kiddies are running the place.
593 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:41:24am |
re: #590 opnion
This is poltically motivated to suuport Roe V Wade.
When BHO was the only Illinois State Senator to support denying medical care to the survivor of a botched abortion (infanticide), he said that it was to protect Roe V Wade.
And to protect his own arse with his lunatic fringe base.
594 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:41:56am |
re: #551 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - how are you doing today? Well, I hope.
The problem is everyone - well, ok, not everyone but a lot of people are talking about who's leading (or not leading, as the case may be) the GOP - the reality is I'd rather have NO ONE leading the GOP RIGHT NOW than have either Obama, Pelosi or Reid leading the party.
Seriously, we can wait a few months to develop new(er) national leadership for the GOP and just let the Democrats continually machine gun their own feet for a while!
BTW - if you saw that Day By Day cartoon I posted upthread at #526 and wonder who the cartoonist sees as the next "Joe The Plumber" put your money on that 14 year old kid - he's smart, and unafraid (so far) to enunciate pretty straightforward Conservative principles and was on Fox and Friends this morning, frying Obama's ass real well!
595 | Ward Cleaver Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:42:16am |
re: #565 opnion
One of the network affiliates in Chicago (can't remember which one)
reported that last weekend Michelle Obama needed to relieve the stress of the White House.
She went back to Chicago to have lunch with her BFF's. Barry insisted that she take The Airforce One, not some lesser jet.
So see, how could she have tea with Britains First Lady?
Queen Michelle.
/let them eat arugula
596 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:42:50am |
597 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:43:14am |
re: #554 bellamags
Hey, good morning bellamags! How are you doing today?
599 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:45:12am |
re: #590 opnion
This is poltically motivated to suuport Roe V Wade.
When BHO was the only Illinois State Senator to support denying medical care to the survivor of a botched abortion (infanticide), he said that it was to protect Roe V Wade.
What is he afraid of a John Connor coming along? How is a botched abortion going to reinstitute State's rights superceding the Federal Government?
600 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:45:14am |
re: #559 tfc3rid
Good morning to you my friend! I don't want us to try, I want us to knock that sucker outta the sky - just blow it to shreds which, the good Lord willing and the creek don't rise, will fall on the White House lawn!
601 | Ward Cleaver Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:45:17am |
re: #560 Wyatt Earp
As Bill Bennett said this morning, they have been doing the research for a while, and the fact that private industry hasn't begun sponsoring it shows that the results have not bene forthcoming. Strangely enough, better results have been achieved with adult stem cells!
I was reading recently about some cases (in England maybe?) where patients had been treated for some ailment with embryonic stem cells, and had developed brain tumors after the stem cell treatment. The successes have all come from adult stem cells; the embryonic argument is about protecting "the right to abortion".
602 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:45:26am |
re: #573 yesandno
A HUGE carbon butt print.
She came back to Bootay bump with Oprah. Tremors rocked the Chicago area!
603 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:46:16am |
re: #601 Ward Cleaver
I was reading recently about some cases (in England maybe?) where patients had been treated for some ailment with embryonic stem cells, and had developed brain tumors after the stem cell treatment. The successes have all come from adult stem cells; the embryonic argument is about protecting "the right to abortion".
I don't remember seeing that right in the Constitution. Not that the Democrats give a whit about the Constitution.
604 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:46:29am |
re: #602 opnion
She came back to Bootay bump with Oprah. Tremors rocked the
Chicago areaentire nation!
FTFY
605 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:46:56am |
The country is becoming more secular, yet another reason that the religious right may be losing influence.
606 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:47:01am |
607 | abolitionist Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:47:54am |
re: #467 opnion
Theere is no doubt that it was a deliberate snub.
When he was offered the opportunity to continue the usage of the Winston Churchill portrait, the appropriate answer is thank you, not take it back.
It was a sculpture, a bust. [Link: www.flickr.com...]
608 | yesandno Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:10am |
re: #602 opnion
She came back to Bootay bump with Oprah. Tremors rocked the Chicago area!
The great midwest divide!
609 | dsun Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:41am |
Galloway is one of the most nefarious and despicable hack i've ever heard of, remember this guy profited from Saddam oil money.
610 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:46am |
re: #597 realwest
Hey, good morning bellamags! How are you doing today?
I'm doing good RW. Nice outside, sitting with the back doors open with my coffee on LGF. Can't get much better. How are YOU?
611 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:48am |
re: #589 summergurl
THE STRESS?
I have no issue with her using Air Force 1, she is the First Lady after all.... but she thinks she is stressed?
Maybe they really have to DO SOMETHING this time - not just show up and expect to be given preferential treatment.
Neither one of them has actually been tested before. Barry is coked up & a poor student in High School. Michelle writes a poor SAT, but no problem both went off to the Ivy League.
Both have reputations for being lazy. This is a mess.
612 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:54am |
re: #564 yesandno
Not to harp on this, but it's really difficult for any Republican to get out past the MSM filters and get a message through to the American People. This next "American Revolution" will very likely be a ground up one, not with some politician heading the charge.
Indeed the 14 year old boy, who's name now escapes me but I've mentioned to Iron Fist and others said that "Rush isn't the head of the GOP, Michael Steele is and HE knows that; once other Republicans accept that fact, things will get HOT for President Obama."
613 | Beach Lover Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:49:09am |
ya know, I 've been pondering this but didn't want to say it for the obvious reasons. But, even though I am a conservative, I "hoped" that with the one's election that at least he might address the black community and what they could do to improve their lives.... stay in school, work hard so you can appreciate what you have earned, GET MARRIED before having children. All the things that could really improve their lives for generations. Such a waste.....and I guess the truth is, he doesn't believe in those things or he would. I know why he didn't do it before the election, but the path he is on, he has shown his true feelings on the plight of the lower class and of the AA community.
614 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:49:33am |
615 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:49:38am |
616 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:50:09am |
re: #568 Ford_Prefect
Just click on the exclamation point next to your #532 and you'll get prompts from there!
617 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:50:44am |
re: #615 opnion
Ya felt in back East too, huh?
I'm thinking we should warn Indonesia about the resulting tsunami.
618 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:50:49am |
re: #607 abolitionist
It was a sculpture, a bust. [Link: www.flickr.com...]
Thanks, I stand corrected, but the principal is the same.
619 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:51:37am |
re: #617 soxfan4life
I'm thinking we should warn Indonesia about the resulting tsunami.
It would be Bush's fault somehow.
620 | yesandno Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:52:12am |
re: #589 summergurl
THE STRESS?
I have no issue with her using Air Force 1, she is the First Lady after all.... but she thinks she is stressed?
Maybe they really have to DO SOMETHING this time - not just show up and expect to be given preferential treatment.
Well I have a problem with it...for unofficial business. She could have borrowed Nancy's private jet........
Still, wouldn't be AirForce 1 if the Pres isn't on it.
621 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:52:15am |
re: #616 realwest
Just click on the exclamation point next to your #532 and you'll get prompts from there!
Cool. Thanks.
622 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:10am |
re: #619 opnion
It would be Bush's fault somehow.
Well that goes without saying. Although something like a tsunami is more Cheney's thing, ya know.
623 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:41am |
re: #609 dsun
Galloway is one of the most nefarious and despicable hack i've ever heard of, remember this guy profited from Saddam oil money.
No only that, he set up a bogus charity to raise money to pay for medical services of a sick Arab girl, the Mariam Fund, and ran his Oil For Food payoffs through it.
624 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:41am |
re: #596 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth! How are you doing this morning?
625 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:54:01am |
re: #620 yesandno
Well I have a problem with it...for unofficial business. She could have borrowed Nancy's private jet........
Still, wouldn't be AirForce 1 if the Pres isn't on it.
That's a hell of a carbon footprint for lunch.
Cheaper to have the BFFs fly commercial to DC for lunch, I would wager.
626 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:54:01am |
re: #622 soxfan4life
Well that goes without saying. Although something like a tsunami is more Cheney's thing, ya know.
ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!
///
627 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:55:11am |
re: #624 realwest
Hey real! No bad thanks. Not amused to see the wet snow & slush coming down this morning. I am sooo over this winter crap by now. How're you doing?
628 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:55:38am |
re: #622 soxfan4life
Well that goes without saying. Although something like a tsunami is more Cheney's thing, ya know.
Yes, Bush lacks the imagination for disasters more complicated than hurricanes. And, AFAIK, he does not hate Indonesians. In fact, as a child, he was SOOOOOO stupid he played Cowboys and Indonesians all the time, until Barbara took his little football suit away.
/////////////////////////
629 | pingjockey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:55:39am |
Galloway stoned in Egypt......Good hash George?
631 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:55:58am |
re: #609 dsun Um, I agree with you but think you meant to post that on the prior thread!
632 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:56:35am |
re: #630 Iron Fist
You've not read the Penumbra to the Constitution. According to the Democrats, all the real rights are defined in the Penumbra, right after the section on how the Second Amendment doesn't really mean what it says. The Penumbra is the most improtant section og the Constitution. That is why it is kept hidden, and only shown to Great Leaders or Dear Leaders of the United Socialist States of AmeriKKKa.
Now, see? I didn't know that. I'll vote Democrat from now on!
/
633 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:56:39am |
Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.
When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.
There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
Outer space exists because it's afraid to be on the same planet with Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris does not sleep. He waits.
Chuck Norris is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs.
Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding.
Chuck Norris counted to infinity--twice.
There is no chin behind Chuck Norris’ beard. There is only another fist.
When Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.
Chuck Norris is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.
Chuck Norris’ hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush.
Chuck Norris can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.
Chuck Norris doesn’t wear a watch, HE decides what time it is.
Chuck Norris can slam a revolving door.
Chuck Norris does not get frostbite. Chuck Norris bites frost
Remember the Soviet Union? They decided to quit after watching a DeltaForce marathon on Satellite TV.
Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.
634 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:57:54am |
re: #610 bellamags
I'm doing ok - thankew, got the damn landscape crew here at the apartment complex and while they do wonderful work I REALLY don't need to be awoken by about 10 freakin' ride around lawn mowers at 8:00AM!
636 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:28am |
re: #633 MandyManners
Chuck Norris is so tough that underneath his beard there is no chin ... only another fist.
/Family Guy
637 | pingjockey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:28am |
re: #633 MandyManners
You might be a redneck if....An episode of Walker Texas Ranger, changed your life. Jeff Foxworthy.
638 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:39am |
re: #633 MandyManners
Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.
When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.
There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
Outer space exists because it's afraid to be on the same planet with Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris does not sleep. He waits.
Chuck Norris is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs.
Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding.
Chuck Norris counted to infinity--twice.
There is no chin behind Chuck Norris’ beard. There is only another fist.
When Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.
Chuck Norris is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.
Chuck Norris’ hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush.
Chuck Norris can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.
Chuck Norris doesn’t wear a watch, HE decides what time it is.
Chuck Norris can slam a revolving door.
Chuck Norris does not get frostbite. Chuck Norris bites frost
Remember the Soviet Union? They decided to quit after watching a DeltaForce marathon on Satellite TV.
Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.
When someone says nobody is perfect, Chuck Norris takes that as a personal insult.
639 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:42am |
re: #618 opnion
Thanks, I stand corrected, but the principal is the same.
The bust is a non isue in my opinion. It was loaned to GW because he was a fan. Obama preferred a bust of Lincoln in the oval office and returned the loaned, historic bust to the British. Had he have put it in a crate in the basement, that would have been a snub.
640 | SasquatchOnSteroids Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:47am |
re: #625 OldLineTexan
That's a hell of a carbon footprint for lunch.
Cheaper to have the BFFs fly commercial to DC for lunch, I would wager.
They've got that whole Kofi Annan holier than though attitude.
Maybe they're related. They act like they're King and Queen of the UN instead of the US.
641 | Lincolntf Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:59:04am |
Morning all.
One week ago today I was struggling to limp home in the aftermath of a snowstorm. Today I sat on the patio in t-shirt and shorts to enjoy my morning paper. Thank you, Al Gore.
The U.S. whupped up on Hugo's Heroes last night, by the way.
642 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:00:18am |
re: #633 MandyManners
Fact: Every time you watch Delta Force, a terrorist dies.
Chuck Norris's tears can cure every known disease. Too bad he's never cried.
643 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:01:00am |
re: #634 realwest
I'm doing ok - thankew, got the damn landscape crew here at the apartment complex and while they do wonderful work I REALLY don't need to be awoken by about 10 freakin' ride around lawn mowers at 8:00AM!
LOL. I understand completely. I was doing a massage therapy session on a patient one day and the landscaping crew thought it would be a good time to take the LEAF BLOWER to the sidewalk right outside of my room. I had to give her a free hour session because of all the racket.
646 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:02:41am |
re: #627 Kenneth
Well I'm sitting here with plenty of sunshine out my window with a high temp today expected to be 80 degrees, got my second cup of coffee and am chatting with my friends out here! Life is good!
647 | FrogMarch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:02:45am |
Good morning.
Will it be possible to get rid of Obama in 4 years with all the duplicate voting?
648 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:03:03am |
re: #644 Ford_Prefect
I extinguished my second six years ago by refinancing. By myself. Oh, and I'm still paying my bills.
I feel like the last mule on the Borax team.
649 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:03:20am |
re: #622 soxfan4life
Well that goes without saying. Although something like a tsunami is more Cheney's thing, ya know.
I thought that was Rove & Cheney did the levee's in New Orleans.
650 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:03:35am |
re: #629 pingjockey
Good morning ping! Uh, prior thread is where you want to post that sucker! LOL!
How are you today?
651 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:03:42am |
re: #647 FrogMarch
Good morning.
Will it be possible to get rid of Obama in 4 years with all the duplicate voting?
I wish. Sadly, I think we'll be stuck with this tool for 8 very long years.
652 | Occasional Reader Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:03:44am |
Good morning. How do you do. Pleased to meet you.
653 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:00am |
re: #634 realwest
I'm doing ok - thankew, got the damn landscape crew here at the apartment complex and while they do wonderful work I REALLY don't need to be awoken by about 10 freakin' ride around lawn mowers at 8:00AM!
Sorry, real. Since I wake up at 4:30 every day I can't scrounge up too much sympathy. :-)
654 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:01am |
re: #649 opnion
I thought that was Rove & Cheney did the levee's in New Orleans.
That's what they want you to think.
/
656 | aussiemagpie Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:37am |
G'day again
As we're not a baseball nation, the fact that Aussies were in
this hasn't been front page sports news, so it was rather good to see that the Aussies beat Mexico at the World Baseball Classic
Go the Aussies :-)
657 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:39am |
re: #639 avanti
The bust is a non isue in my opinion. It was loaned to GW because he was a fan. Obama preferred a bust of Lincoln in the oval office and returned the loaned, historic bust to the British. Had he have put it in a crate in the basement, that would have been a snub.
He has a bust of a Republican in the Oval Office!
658 | pingjockey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:05:34am |
re: #646 realwest
Good for you! 'Ol man winter doesn't want to leave here yet. High for the next 2-3 days only 35. Low to the teens. Supposed to be a balmy 50 by Friday. I'll believe when it happens. BTW, the record high for today was 67 in 1963, the record low was 15 in 1973. Here in the Greater Wenatchee Valley area.
659 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:05am |
re: #630 Iron Fist
Hello again my brother! Don't know if you saw my comment to you from a couple of days ago, but Rasmussen's daily poll of LIKELY Voters showed OVER 75% of them believe individual Americans have full rights to own firearms. Surprisingly, even a majority of Democrats believe that (61% iirc) and more importantly 75% of independents feel the same way!
660 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:09am |
re: #649 opnion
I thought that was Rove & Cheney did the levee's in New Orleans.
What they don't want you to know is Rove and Cheney put Nagin and Blanco in place to show us how capable Democrats are.//
661 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:18am |
re: #657 MandyManners
He has a bust of a Republican in the Oval Office!
Since the Big O has been inaugurated, Lincoln has been posthumously made a Democrat.
662 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:25am |
re: #639 avanti
The bust is a non isue in my opinion. It was loaned to GW because he was a fan. Obama preferred a bust of Lincoln in the oval office and returned the loaned, historic bust to the British. Had he have put it in a crate in the basement, that would have been a snub.
Good morning Avanti. Let's agree to disagree. It was as much a loan to the American people as anything.
During that entire visit by PM Brown, the Obamas just proved what pampered disresectful people that they are. Embarassing!
663 | Occasional Reader Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:34am |
664 | aussiemagpie Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:52am |
re: #652 Occasional Reader
Good morning. How do you do. Pleased to meet you.
I see those etiquette classes are working for you :-)
665 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:07:07am |
C Rangle answers to the people
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]
666 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:07:12am |
re: #648 OldLineTexan
I extinguished my second six years ago by refinancing. By myself. Oh, and I'm still paying my bills.
I feel like the last mule on the Borax team.
Boy are you stoopid. If you had just waited for the Obama Socialist Revolution you could have saved an awful lot of money ...
that Obama would now be able to take from you to give to other people...
on second thought, maybe you aren't so stoopid.
668 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:08:55am |
re: #652 Occasional Reader
Good morning. How do you do. Pleased to meet you.
669 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:09:15am |
re: #663 Occasional Reader
Hugo Chavez: I will "step on the gas" and accelerate the revolution.
I don't read Spanish ,so I won't pretend to know what was written, but you have to believe Chavez would have been swatted like a fly if Reagan or Bush 1 was President.
670 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:10:00am |
re: #661 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Since the Big O has been inaugurated, Lincoln has been posthumously made a Democrat.
He's spinning in the grave so rapildly that he could generate the power to light up Chicago.
671 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:04am |
re: #666 Ford_Prefect
eeek. I got the devils comment number. I am not a superstitious person, but those numbers always creeped my out. The town I live has those numbers as the first three in their phone numbers for a lot of people. Fortunately we are not one or I would have to move.
672 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:29am |
re: #657 MandyManners
He has a bust of a Republican in the Oval Office!
Yep, the thought occurred to me of the fuss that would be made if the reverse happened. Had he have replaced a Lincoln bust with one of a foreign leader in the oval office, we'd be pissed about that. Thank goodness it was not a loaned Reagan bust leaving the oval office or Rush's head would have exploded. :)
673 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:35am |
re: #670 MandyManners
He's spinning in the grave so rapildly that he could generate the power to light up Chicago.
Oh, he was a Republican. Watch this:
674 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:50am |
re: #661 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Since the Big O has been inaugurated, Lincoln has been posthumously made a Democrat.
It's a Chicago tradition.
675 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:50am |
new VDH...this gut is writing his ass off these days...don't recall him ever being this prolific....
[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
676 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:54am |
re: #641 Lincolntf
Good morning! Uh "The U.S. whupped up on Hugo's Heroes last night" to what are you referring?
677 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:12:50am |
re: #666 Ford_Prefect
Boy are you stoopid. If you had just waited for the Obama Socialist Revolution you could have saved an awful lot of money ...
that Obama would now be able to take from you to give to other people...
on second thought, maybe you aren't so stoopid.
I waited all day Saturday for that lazy bastidge to fill my car's gas tank. He never did show up.
/
678 | Lincolntf Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:12:52am |
re: #671 Ford_Prefect
That must make for some interesting phone numbers.
"Call 666-HELL for Little Bo Peep Daycare..."
679 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:12:55am |
Had to run to Wal-hell....
Back and sassy!
680 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:02am |
681 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:04am |
re: #676 realwest
Good morning! Uh "The U.S. whupped up on Hugo's Heroes last night" to what are you referring?
World Baseball Classic
682 | Ben Hur Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:04am |
Why isn't it surprising that after the Obama and Brown regime's overtures to Syria, Iran, Hizballah and Hamas, these states/groups have united in their vocal support of the Sudanese President against his war crimes trial?
Why does a son of a Kenyan not care when Arabs are exterminating Black Christian Africans and settling on their land?
684 | Erik The Red Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:45am |
Later Lizards. Going home. See you all later.
685 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:48am |
re: #680 albusteve
Wait a damn minute! You like the Stones but hate David Bowie?
The older Mick Jagger gets, the more he looks like Don Knotts.
686 | rightside Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:08am |
But don't you dare question their patriotism.
The only difference between the democrats and a bag of horse manure, is the bag.
687 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:17am |
re: #643 bellamags
"I had to give her a free hour session because of all the racket."
You mean she didn't find the sound of the leaf blower to be.......soothing?! LOL!
They always wait for Mom and me to eat lunch or dinner before they start leafblowing our porch. Pains in the ass. Though as I said, they do good work even if they all probably are illegal aliens undocumented workers!
688 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:32am |
re: #658 pingjockey
Good for you! 'Ol man winter doesn't want to leave here yet. High for the next 2-3 days only 35. Low to the teens. Supposed to be a balmy 50 by Friday. I'll believe when it happens. BTW, the record high for today was 67 in 1963, the record low was 15 in 1973. Here in the Greater Wenatchee Valley area.
We normally have snow and cold weather at our March Studebaker flea market in Pa, but it was in the 60's and 70's this weekend. A perfect example of local weather, no proof either way about climate change.
689 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:47am |
re: #685 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wait a damn minute! You like the Stones but hate David Bowie?
The older Mick Jagger gets, the more he looks like Don Knotts.
And Keith Richards has to pretend he's gay to rent a room in Mick's boarding house.
690 | vxbush Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:50am |
re: #665 albusteve
C Rangle answers to the people
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]
I saw that this morning. The man is disgusting, and yet he has the gall to think that the other guy is a moron.
Loverly.
Morning, everyone. Much to do today, but taking a break here first.
691 | rightside Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:56am |
re: #672 avanti
How long have you had this obsession with Rush, chief?
692 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:08am |
Every new administration--and president--goes through an adjustment process, but this is ridiculous. Mr. Geraghty notes that President Obama is "overwhelmed" by the demands of his new office...
...Equally disconcerting, the Telegraph goes on to say that the commander-in-chief has failed to "even fake an interest in foreign policy." That assessment came from a Washington "insider" with close ties to the administration.
As President Obama is about to discover, his sabbatical from international issues will soon come to an abrupt end, with potentially disastrous consequences.
Heaven help us.
693 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:09am |
re: #679 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Had to run to Wal-hell....
Back and sassy!
LOL. oh man do i know that.
694 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:15am |
re: #678 Lincolntf
That must make for some interesting phone numbers.
"Call 666-HELL for Little Bo Peep Daycare..."
There is a cab company in the area with the phone number 666-6666. I will never take that ride to hell.
695 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:27am |
re: #689 Wyatt Earp
And Keith Richards has to pretend he's gay to rent a room in Mick's boarding house.
Yeah, but his two roommates are hot!
/
696 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:28am |
re: #647 FrogMarch Sure, by then we'll have learned how to cheat in more sophisictated ways!
697 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:04am |
re: #671 Ford_Prefect
eeek. I got the devils comment number. I am not a superstitious person, but those numbers always creeped my out. The town I live has those numbers as the first three in their phone numbers for a lot of people. Fortunately we are not one or I would have to move.
Maybe my No. 668 should be there.
699 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:37am |
Boortz calls Obama "King of the United States"
ROFLMAO
700 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:40am |
re: #694 Ford_Prefect
There is a cab company in the area with the phone number 666-6666. I will never take that ride to hell.
Aren't we all on that ride now?
701 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:41am |
re: #672 avanti
Yep, the thought occurred to me of the fuss that would be made if the reverse happened. Had he have replaced a Lincoln bust with one of a foreign leader in the oval office, we'd be pissed about that. Thank goodness it was not a loaned Reagan bust leaving the oval office or Rush's head would have exploded. :)
THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!
702 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:42am |
703 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:53am |
re: #685 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wait a damn minute! You like the Stones but hate David Bowie?
The older Mick Jagger gets, the more he looks like Don Knotts.
they are all looking strange these days except C Watts...he's always been a health nut...I dunno
704 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:23am |
re: #657 MandyManners
He has a bust of a Republican in the Oval Office!
Hey, Bill had the bust of an intern in the Oval Office...
705 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:27am |
re: #686 rightside
But don't you dare question their patriotism.
The only difference between the democrats and a bag of horse manure, is the bag.
Remember when Hillary said we had the right to disagree with the POTUS? Why do we not have that right with the Big Zero?
706 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:35am |
re: #703 albusteve
Today, Charlie looks like the same guy who didn't want to be in their videos in the 80s.
707 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:37am |
re: #703 albusteve
they are all looking strange these days except C Watts...he's always been a health nut...I dunno
It's not easy to find all-natural organic herbal acid!
708 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:46am |
re: #689 Wyatt Earp
And Keith Richards has to pretend he's gay to rent a room in Mick's boarding house.
hey!...that's a penalty
709 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:18:06am |
re: #652 Occasional Reader
Hope you guessed my name! (doot doo!)!*
Morning O.R. - how are you today?
.
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.
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
710 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:18:14am |
711 | FrogMarch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:18:15am |
re: #665 albusteve
C Rangle answers to the people
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]
The elected-for-life governing elite don't need to answer to the people they serve.
/especially if they are democrats.
712 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:18:56am |
713 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:19:01am |
re: #705 Wyatt Earp
Remember when Hillary said we had the right to disagree with the POTUS? Why do we not have that right with the Big Zero?
Because he is sooo much smarter than all of us./////
714 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:19:19am |
Opened the front door (storm closed) put the dog's bed in a beautiful beam of sunshine. He's so happy, he could just shit.
Oops! BRB...
715 | rightside Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:19:34am |
re: #705 Wyatt Earp
Because we're rethuglicans... racists, bigots, homophobes, and xenophobes.
/Pot, meet kettle
716 | Canoe Train Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:19:37am |
This just in:
The fishwrapper of Record is circling the bowl, getting closer to going down the drain.
NYT sells, leases part of their new HQ.
717 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:20:21am |
re: #715 rightside
Because we're rethuglicans... racists, bigots, homophobes, and xenophobes.
/Pot, meet kettle
Can't be a black pot. That would be racist!
/
718 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:20:57am |
re: #673 Wyatt Earp
Oh, he was a Republican. Watch this:
I don't know about using dead presidents to hawk stuff. Entertaining, though.
719 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:21:03am |
re: #705 Wyatt Earp
Remember when Hillary said we had the right to disagree with the POTUS? Why do we not have that right with the Big Zero?
I posted this quote earlier. It seems appropriate here:
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it." -- Mark Twain
720 | Canoe Train Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:21:17am |
re: #715 rightside
You forget to label us hypocrites. The left loves, Looooooooovvvvvves to point out hypocrasy when it is from the Right.
721 | vxbush Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:21:29am |
re: #711 FrogMarch
The elected-for-life governing elite don't need to answer to the people they serve.
/especially if they are democrats.
Of course not. They believe they are elected to rule over others. Silly people who think they can just vote for them and hold them accountable!
Best lesson I ever got in my government class was that while we did elect senators and representatives, we often did not know what was contained in various bills (this was before the Internet era, obviously) and therefore we were told: do not be surprised if elected officials do not vote the way you want, because you may not know everything that's going on with a bill.
Alas, he should have also taught us about earmarks. That would have explained a lot.
722 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:21:34am |
723 | vxbush Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:22:39am |
re: #714 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Opened the front door (storm closed) put the dog's bed in a beautiful beam of sunshine. He's so happy, he could just shit.
Oops! BRB...
I'd be willing to borrow that sunbeam...preferably shit-free, though.
724 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:22:40am |
re: #704 Kenneth
Hey, Bill had the bust of an intern in the Oval ORal Office...
725 | pingjockey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:22:47am |
re: #688 avanti
Climate change is the old, Darryl Hannah says the new descriptor is Climate Chaos!
726 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:23:23am |
Shit. Let's try this again.
re: #704 Kenneth
Hey, Bill had the bust of an intern in the
OvalORal Office...
727 | Miss Trixie Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:23:43am |
Morning again.
{realwest} Herro luv *smoochie-smooch* I think I know who you're talking about:
728 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:23:48am |
re: #663 Occasional Reader
Huh, if only using a graph would make the opposition to Hugo "only" 40%. In your dreams Maricon!
729 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:23:50am |
730 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:24:02am |
Here, this ought to give everybody a good start for the week. Warren Buffet saying the economy fell off a cliff.
[Link: www.comcast.net...]
and a clip to inspire all of us
What is required is a commander in chief that's looked at like a commander in chief in a time of war," Buffett said.
731 | Spare O'Lake Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:24:21am |
re: #704 Kenneth
Hey, Bill had the bust of an intern in the Oval Office...
Having a bust of an intern is better than being a bust as a President.
732 | Occasional Reader Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:24:52am |
re: #728 realwest
Huh, if only using a graph would make the opposition to Hugo "only" 40%. In your dreams Maricon!
It's Bolivarian Revolutionary graph, not one of your evil imperialist graphs, yanqui bastage!
733 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:25:01am |
here comes the shit storm...
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
734 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:25:09am |
re: #731 Spare O'Lake
That poor dumb-assed girl.
735 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:25:34am |
re: #729 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I have a theory about chaos...
Daryl Hannah is an idiot.
Jakcie O was right in her misgivings about John dating her.
736 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:12am |
re: #691 rightside
How long have you had this obsession with Rush, chief?
I'm not obsessed with him, but I do find him entertaining even though I usually disagree with him. I think he needs the controversy to drive his ratings, and attacks both the GOP and the Dems when they don't agree with his politics. I think he's more honest then Anne Couter for example, I don't think she believes half the stuff she spouts to sell her books.
737 | pingjockey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:16am |
re: #729 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Your last statement is fact not theory!
739 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:37am |
re: #665 albusteve
Well sure, good ole Charlie is used to representing the continually downtrodden and mostly black constituents that constitute his base in NYC and so naturally wouldn't expect any of them to ask such a question!
Just a natural reflex on his part,nothing much to see here, move along!
740 | rightside Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:44am |
re: #716 Canoe Train
YES! I am waiting for the WaPo soon after!
741 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:49am |
re: #735 MandyManners
Jakcie O was right in her misgivings about John dating her.
JohnJohn would have been better off with Elaine Bennes than Darryl Hannah.
742 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:27:07am |
743 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:27:34am |
Are we going to be able to get Cuban cigars soon?
744 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:27:35am |
re: #730 soxfan4life
Here, this ought to give everybody a good start for the week. Warren Buffet saying the economy fell off a cliff.
[Link: www.comcast.net...]
and a clip to inspire all of us
What is required is a commander in chief that's looked at like a commander in chief in a time of war," Buffett said.
It didn't fall, it was pushed.
745 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:27:46am |
746 | Occasional Reader Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:19am |
748 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:24am |
749 | Leonidas Hoplite Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:36am |
re: #685 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wait a damn minute! You like the Stones but hate David Bowie?
The older Mick Jagger gets, the more he looks like Don Knotts.
Don Knotts or Harry Reid?
750 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:43am |
re: #725 pingjockey
Climate change is the old, Darryl Hannah says the new descriptor is Climate Chaos!
The climate change supporters that go off the reservation with their doom and gloom comments just hurt reasonable discussion of the issue.
751 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:57am |
752 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:29:33am |
re: #750 avanti
Avanti, I don't agree with you very often, but...DING!
753 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:29:35am |
re: #739 realwest
Well sure, good ole Charlie is used to representing the continually downtrodden and mostly black constituents that constitute his base in NYC and so naturally wouldn't expect any of them to ask such a question!
Just a natural reflex on his part,nothing much to see here, move along!
yep...the fact that he is a world class shakedown artisit and gangster means nothing...he will fall someday
754 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:29:38am |
re: #733 albusteve
here comes the shit storm...
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
I posted that upthread (#469). No one seemed to care. Hopefully this will get people talking about it. We all seriously need to be aware of what our kids are being taught.
755 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:30:18am |
756 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:30:32am |
re: #719 Ford_Prefect
Far as I'm concerned Ford, y'all can post that quote on every political or open thread!
757 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:31:21am |
re: #754 Ford_Prefect
I posted that upthread (#469). No one seemed to care. Hopefully this will get people talking about it. We all seriously need to be aware of what our kids are being taught.
overnighters just like to gossip....
758 | JohnAdams Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:31:23am |
re: #736 avanti
I'm not obsessed with him, but I do find him entertaining even though I usually disagree with him. I think he needs the controversy to drive his ratings, and attacks both the GOP and the Dems when they don't agree with his politics. I think he's more honest then Anne Couter for example, I don't think she believes half the stuff she spouts to sell her books.
Rush carries a lot of the mail for Repubs and conservatives. His message is consistent and honest, for the most part. He can also be pretty damn amusing. I can't handle the tit-for-tat minutiae of regular politics, but in a crisis I tune him in quite a bit. I would love to see him debate Obama--he'd wipe the floor with the Zero.
759 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:31:41am |
Drudge, right now...two headlines...
Global economy "approaching" pick-up: G10
and...
World Bank offers dire forecast for world economy
Maybe these folks should just STFU.
760 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:31:43am |
re: #747 MandyManners
Dryer's buzzing agin. bbiab
Oh just shoot the damn thing already. It is always taking you away from what is truly important.
761 | vxbush Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:32:33am |
re: #754 Ford_Prefect
I posted that upthread (#469). No one seemed to care. Hopefully this will get people talking about it. We all seriously need to be aware of what our kids are being taught.
I read about that yesterday. My take on it is that PC has gotten so out of whack that we now prefer eastern religions and Islam and present them without any flaws, and denigrate Judaism and Christianity mercilessly. The world is whack, in other words.
Okay, now I have to get some work done. Rats! Later, gators.
762 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:32:41am |
re: #756 realwest
Far as I'm concerned Ford, y'all can post that quote on every political or open thread!
You got it!
763 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:32:48am |
re: #754 Ford_Prefect
I posted that upthread (#469). No one seemed to care. Hopefully this will get people talking about it. We all seriously need to be aware of what our kids are being taught.
Charles should post it...seems mighty relevant about now
765 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:33:38am |
re: #743 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Are we going to be able to get Cuban cigars soon?
I'm for that. I don't think the decades old embargo accomplished much and we are buddy buddy with China for example and ignore a potential trading partner 90 miles off our coast. Trade with the Commies tends to give them a peak at the wonders of Wal Marts and capitalism.
766 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:33:41am |
re: #759 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Drudge, right now...two headlines...
Global economy "approaching" pick-up: G10
and...
World Bank offers dire forecast for world economy
Maybe these folks should just STFU.
You noticed that too? I thought it was just me going crazier.
767 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:34:33am |
Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
Allies of Mr Obama say his weary appearance in the Oval Office with Mr Brown illustrates the strain he is now under, and the president's surprise at the sheer volume of business that crosses his desk.
You can't blame Obama... after all he's never held down a full time job before.
768 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:34:37am |
re: #727 {Miss Trixie} Good morning Gorgeous and some extra *smoochies* for you - Jonathan Krohn - that's the erudite and very well spoken young 14 year old who was frying Obama's ass on Fox and Friends today!
Now watch Ramn and Carville go after him with ridicule and what not - you think Joe the Plumber had it bad?
That's what that Day By Day cartoon I linked to in my #526 was referring to - bet money on it!
769 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:34:44am |
Heh...Charles is Wikipedia?
Wikipedia scrubs Obama eligibility:
Mention of citizenship issues deleted in minutes, 'offending' users banned
Yay, Wikipedia (for once).
Of course, they also remove any mentions of BHO's associations, etc.
770 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:34:58am |
re: #754 Ford_Prefect
I posted that upthread (#469). No one seemed to care. Hopefully this will get people talking about it. We all seriously need to be aware of what our kids are being taught.
Unfortunately, many of those who care about this kind of stuff have their kids in private schools, not public schools, and the time they have to devote to school issues is used on the schools their kids attend instead of public schools.
771 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:35:11am |
re: #762 Ford_Prefect
You got it!
it would be interesting to hear what Twains enemies or detractors said about him back in the day....then maybe he had none
772 | FrogMarch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:35:27am |
re: #721 vxbush
Of course not. They believe they are elected to rule over others. Silly people who think they can just vote for them and hold them accountable!
Best lesson I ever got in my government class was that while we did elect senators and representatives, we often did not know what was contained in various bills (this was before the Internet era, obviously) and therefore we were told: do not be surprised if elected officials do not vote the way you want, because you may not know everything that's going on with a bill.
Alas, he should have also taught us about earmarks. That would have explained a lot.
Even worse, Obama is normalizing deception. Our of one side of his mouth he demands accountability and an end to earmarks, all while he majestically signs his name to endless new entitlements, pay-to-play paybacks, & bottomless pork and ear-mark spending bills.
773 | UberInfidel67 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:35:29am |
Guys...I just posted on hell of a link (at least I think so) Check it out!
774 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:36:05am |
re: #732 Occasional Reader
No it ain't - y'all just have it turned upside down!
775 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:36:10am |
re: #766 Walter L. Newton
You noticed that too? I thought it was just me going crazier.
Drudge has a certain shocka! quotient he uses....no question about it
776 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:36:41am |
re: #761 vxbush
I read about that yesterday. My take on it is that PC has gotten so out of whack that we now prefer eastern religions and Islam and present them without any flaws, and denigrate Judaism and Christianity mercilessly. The world is whack, in other words.
Okay, now I have to get some work done. Rats! Later, gators.
I think this is much more nefarious than simple PC BS. This is intentional misinterpretation of the facts to favor a group of religious extremists. Whether it is being done out of fear of retribution or a deliberate effort to mislead it is wrong and needs to be brought to light. This is our children we are talking about.
777 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:37:27am |
re: #773 UberInfidel67
Guys...I just posted on hell of a link (at least I think so) Check it out!
Can't find it . . ,.
post it here.
778 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:37:41am |
re: #767 Kenneth
Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
You can't blame Obama... after all he's never held down a full time job before.
I'll bet that the stress has driven him to about three packs of Marlboros a day now. He has never had a full time job before.
779 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:06am |
Some are silly, while some of them are truly frightening.
780 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:23am |
re: #772 FrogMarch
Even worse, Obama is normalizing deception. Our of one side of his mouth he demands accountability and an end to earmarks, all while he majestically signs his name to endless new entitlements, pay-to-play paybacks, & bottomless pork and ear-mark spending bills.
the tool he uses to do this is the MSM....they make the whole thing work
781 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:26am |
re: #766 Walter L. Newton
Hey bud...
I would like for the economists to start forecasting like George Carlin's "Hippy Dippy Weather Guy"...(paraphrasing)
"It's snowing outside, we don't know how much it's going to snow because it hasn't stopped snowing yet."
782 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:28am |
re: #733 albusteve
Ah, words of wisdom from your link:
Just as with curricular green globaloney, your best defense against scholastic Dhimmitude begins at home.
Discuss what they're being taught, and be prepared to teach them the truth. Teach them about Jesus, or Israel, or both. Once they're old enough to understand, teach them about 9/11. Teach them about Sharia and jihad and oppressed women and terrorism and honor killings and barbaric execution methods. Teach them that only just and nurturing cultures deserve to be celebrated, not diversity itself.
But above all, teach them how to recognize propaganda and to think for themselves.
783 | UberInfidel67 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:37am |
[Link: www.energytomorrow.org...]
Here it is Reine : )
784 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:39:50am |
"I think he can be ready, but right now I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training." - Joe Biden, 2007
785 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:39:50am |
re: #779 Kenneth
Some are silly, while some of them are truly frightening.
I love #4 - the "Mexican?" Obama!
786 | Beach Lover Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:07am |
re: #758 JohnAdams
everytime I hear "Dancing Queen" I 'bout drive in the ditch laughing! Most miss Rush's humor and take it for arrogance.
787 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:07am |
re: #779 Kenneth
Some are silly, while some of them are truly frightening.
bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad
788 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:24am |
re: #783 UberInfidel67
[Link: www.energytomorrow.org...]
Here it is Reine : )
Wishful thinking with Obama and the greenies in charge.
789 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:45am |
re: #778 opnion
I'll bet that the stress has driven him to about three packs of Marlboros a day now. He has never had a full time job before.
"Why didn't anyone tell me this job was going to be so much work?"
--Obama
790 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:55am |
re: #786 Beach Lover
I don't listen to him often enough to know what in the hell are you talking about.
791 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:41:17am |
re: #782 realwest
Ah, words of wisdom from your link:
good point...the schools are not the bottom line, parents are and they seem to be losing grip on the art of parenting these days
792 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:41:38am |
re: #789 Ford_Prefect
"Why didn't anyone tell me this job was going to be so much work?"
--Obama
I gave him many, many warnings before the election. He just didn't listen to me.
793 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:41:46am |
794 | FrogMarch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:41:53am |
re: #789 Ford_Prefect
"Why didn't anyone tell me this job was going to be so much work?"
--Obama
It's difficult to kill off the capitalist system in 6 weeks. Obama is exhausted.
796 | UberInfidel67 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:42:14am |
re: #788 soxfan4life
So you are just gonna give up? Not cool.
797 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:42:33am |
re: #793 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Barack Obama after working in the nuclear plant with Homer Simpson
D'oh!
798 | JohnAdams Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:42:44am |
re: #786 Beach Lover
everytime I hear "Dancing Queen" I 'bout drive in the ditch laughing! Most miss Rush's humor and take it for arrogance.
I'm sure he's got a massive ego, but I bet he'd be a fun guy to have a couple beers with.
799 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:43:01am |
re: #785 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I love #4 - the "Mexican?" Obama!
Didja see the Mexican Flag over the White House?
800 | Creeping Eruption Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:43:11am |
Glancing at the headline of the previous thread re Galloway's convoy getting stoned, I could not help but think about pre-48 Jewish convoys being attacked with much worse outcomes, while the British, at best, did nothing about it. My sympathy quotient for Galloway and his ilk seems to be pretty low.
801 | Occasional Reader Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:43:18am |
re: #785 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I love #4 - the "Mexican?" Obama!
With a taco on his head... just wonderful. My fave, too, I think even beating the unicorn one at the beginning.
802 | ciaospirit Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:43:43am |
So much for the age of transparency. Job Biden spoke at the lavish union "conference" in Miami and the press was banned. Every word behind closed doors.
803 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:43:47am |
re: #767 Kenneth
Oh yes we can! The MSM relentlessly attacked George W. Bush for doing that job for 8 years; Obama hasn't even done it for two months yet and the MSM is already making exuses for his gaffes and, quite frankly, laziness.
Have some more coffee or whatever Mr. President, y'all need to be awake NOW!
804 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:44:08am |
805 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:44:43am |
re: #782 realwest
Ah, words of wisdom from your link:
Very true. Teach your children your values. they may not really listen at first, but they will come around in time. I did.
806 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:44:44am |
re: #802 ciaospirit
So much for the age of transparency. Job Biden spoke at the lavish union "conference" in Miami and the press was banned. Every word behind closed doors.
The most open and ethical Congress ever! - Nancy Pelosi
807 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:44:52am |
re: #795 OldLineTexan
so are the Norks who are now ready for.....WAR!....with somebody, they haven't decided who yet....
808 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:45:39am |
re: #771 albusteve
Huh, when Twain had Huckleberry Finn published, he was darn near tarred and feathered. A "Southenor" who had the balls to write a book - a GREAT BOOK too - about the evils of segregation back in his day.
He was roundly hated and condemned in the South at least.
809 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:46:13am |
re: #767 Kenneth
Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
You can't blame Obama... after all he's never held down a full time job before.
It must just be me, but I'm not overly worked up about the fact that BHO didn't go over the moon to help a unpopular Prime Minister score some political points. Before the visit, the British press was moaning about the visit being a transparent ploy to gain some political capital, now bitching about a crappy gift.
Had BHO rolled out the red carpet and handed Brown a F 22 Raptor, the Britts would bitch about him trying to swing the election to Brown. Yep, it was a crappy gift , but it won't make a difference in our relationship in the long term.
810 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:00am |
re: #802 ciaospirit
So much for the age of transparency. Job Biden spoke at the lavish union "conference" in Miami and the press was banned. Every word behind closed doors.
I heard a direct quote reported (so it's accuracy, of course is in question)...
Joe referred to "Dancing with who brung ya, and y'all brought us here..."
811 | JohnAdams Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:04am |
re: #788 soxfan4life
Wishful thinking with Obama and the greenies in charge.
They are going exactly in the opposite direction. Even if their wind/solar fantasy is achievable, it could not even be operational for a decade at least. A decade that is already going to be a complete mess. All carbon-based energy is evil. Their energy policy alone could bankrupt this country.
812 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:26am |
the NEA wants total control of your children and they have the donks do get it
[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]
813 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:44am |
re: #799 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Didja see the Mexican Flag over the White House?
Upon closer examination, yes. The taco sombrero is what really grabbed my attention, that & the underwear floating about.
814 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:58am |
re: #809 avanti
Protocol, Avanti. Simple protocol. He blew it. Face it.
815 | Beach Lover Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:02am |
re: #790 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I meant to say "Banking Queen" it's a parody of Barney Fwank to the tune of Dancing Queen by Abba.
Paul Shankin (sp) is a genius.
I'm sorry you have missed it.
816 | Occasional Reader Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:22am |
em>re: #795 OldLineTexan
From your link:
The statement said the Navy sprayed one ship with water from fire hoses to force it away and the Chinese crew members stripped to their underwear and continued closing within 25 feet.
Do we have effective countermeasures against these new "strip down to our underwear" techniques? Should the Pentagon be consulting with the Village People or something?
817 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:25am |
re: #809 avanti
It must just be me, but I'm not overly worked up about the fact that BHO didn't go over the moon to help a unpopular Prime Minister score some political points. Before the visit, the British press was moaning about the visit being a transparent ploy to gain some political capital, now bitching about a crappy gift.
Had BHO rolled out the red carpet and handed Brown a F 22 Raptor, the Britts would bitch about him trying to swing the election to Brown. Yep, it was a crappy gift , but it won't make a difference in our relationship in the long term.
Well of course it's you. If it was Bush, you would be pissing in your pants.
818 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:37am |
re: #808 realwest
Huh, when Twain had Huckleberry Finn published, he was darn near tarred and feathered. A "Southenor" who had the balls to write a book - a GREAT BOOK too - about the evils of segregation back in his day.
He was roundly hated and condemned in the South at least.
thanks...I am woefully behind with my Twain fu...I need to do some reading
819 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:42am |
re: #796 UberInfidel67
So you are just gonna give up? Not cool.
Don't want to give up, just stating with Pelosi, Obama, and company in charge we will be taking it on the chin for the next 2 years. Hopefully Steele can get the GOP in shape and run on a platform of fiscal constraint and utilize our own natural resources, drill baby drill. And make big advances for 2010. McCain actually had that right, explore alternatives, but drill for domestic oil in the interim.
821 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:49:08am |
re: #783 UberInfidel67
[Link: www.energytomorrow.org...]
Here it is Reine : )
Thanks!
very interesting.
The Roi is a mud engineer for offshore drilling operations. Drilling operations for the well he's currently working on is being shut down - he will be home tomorrow, a week early, and has no assignment lined up for the next job yet. Usually there's more work than engineers. Not so right now, it appears. And it looks like it's only going to get worse. sheesh. Everybody needs energy, we figured his job was fairly safe. Maybe not.
822 | lawhawk Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:49:35am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. These are truly taxing times for all Americans. At the national level, the Administration is pushing cap and trade, which will wipe out the Obama tax "cuts" and "rebates" and destroys the notion that 95% of Americans would not see tax hikes. Obama's promises are so much BS. It would raise taxes and costs int he teeth of a recession, deepening the effects of the recession and making things far worse than if he did nothing.
And it would adversely affect those in the lowest income tax brackets hardest - since they would be using a larger percentage of their income to cover the increases than other tax brackets.
Meanwhile, at the state level, it's a mess all around. In NJ, the mess is such that they're pondering cuts - cutting property tax rebates and actually considering cutting the state workforce (whether that happens remains to be seen since the political class is beholden to the unions despite the fact that the state's fiscal situation is due in large part to pandering to those same unions).
823 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:50:58am |
re: #814 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Protocol, Avanti. Simple protocol. He blew it. Face it.
Hard to disagree with that, but my point was that it'll make little difference in the long run. I predict the Britt's will go ga-ga over BHO when he visits Britain.
824 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:09am |
re: #795 OldLineTexan
Huh. Maybe we ought to send a couple of Aircraft Carrier Battle groups to harrass the hell out of the Chinese!
Oh, wait, Obama's POTUS now,
nevermind.
825 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:15am |
re: #813 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Upon closer examination, yes. The taco sombrero is what really grabbed my attention, that & the underwear floating about.
at this momento taco sales are skyrocketing across the southwest
826 | JohnAdams Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:23am |
re: #818 albusteve
thanks...I am woefully behind with my Twain fu...I need to do some reading
Huck is considered by many to the greatest work in American Literature.
827 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:37am |
828 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:54am |
re: #804 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If we go to war with the Chinese, we could stop paying on the loans... right?
You pay now!
829 | reine.de.tout Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:59am |
re: #809 avanti
It must just be me, but I'm not overly worked up about the fact that BHO didn't go over the moon to help a unpopular Prime Minister score some political points. Before the visit, the British press was moaning about the visit being a transparent ploy to gain some political capital, now bitching about a crappy gift.
Had BHO rolled out the red carpet and handed Brown a F 22 Raptor, the Britts would bitch about him trying to swing the election to Brown. Yep, it was a crappy gift , but it won't make a difference in our relationship in the long term.
Avanti, you are so very very wrong about this.
The gifts aren't about Brown or Obama - the gifts are about the relationship between the UK and the US - us, the citizens of these two countries, in other words.
We were very poorly represented by the person elected to represent us on the world stage. I am embarrassed no end by that. Angry too.
830 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:52:30am |
"We are called the nation of inventors. And we are. We could still claim that title and wear its loftiest honors if we had stopped with the first thing we ever invented, which was human liberty."
--Mark Twain
831 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:04am |
re: #826 JohnAdams
Huck is considered by many to the greatest work in American Literature.
I've read amost of his books....his later years intrigue me now
832 | Creeping Eruption Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:19am |
During these troubled times, I find that a nice Gin and Tonic (not know because I am at work) and Herbie Hancock: Head Hunters (now because I am at work) seem to make things better
833 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:20am |
re: #806 Wyatt Earp
Uh, Wyatt - she's talking about Congress - she might be right! LOL!
834 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:27am |
835 | UberInfidel67 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:27am |
re: #819 soxfan4life
I believe we gotta start somewhere and there are numbers on those pages that most people don't know about. The oil and gas industry can and will generate millions and millions of dollars. I just think we should get the word out. I for one will be forwarding that information to my local representative. At least SOMEONE is taking notice.
836 | SasquatchOnSteroids Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:42am |
re: #804 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If we go to war with the Chinese, we could stop paying on the loans... right?
Me Chinese, Me play joke,
Me call all loans,
End all Hope.
837 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:51am |
re: #760 Ford_Prefect
Oh just shoot the damn thing already. It is always taking you away from what is truly important.
Buy stock in S.C. Johnson & Son, the maker of Shout pre-treatment stuff, 'cause it's that time of year again when The Kid can find every single bit of mud over 10 acres.
BTW, If I got buzzed as often as the dryer, I'd be stoned 24/7.
838 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:52am |
re: #809 avanti
There's more to it than the gift issue. The crappy gift choice was symptomatic of the complete failure of the Obama administration to follow traditional protocol for the visits of the PM of the UK: dinner & a press conference, flags out, the whole thing. What's worse is the excuse offered up by the White House, that Obama is overwhelmed & too tired. If that's their excus, ther reality must be even worse.
One day even a stubborn Obama supporter like you will be forced to admit that hiring a man with next to no relevant experience was not such a good idea.
839 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:16am |
840 | Bloodnok Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:18am |
re: #809 avanti
It must just be me, but I'm not overly worked up about the fact that BHO didn't go over the moon to help a unpopular Prime Minister score some political points. Before the visit, the British press was moaning about the visit being a transparent ploy to gain some political capital, now bitching about a crappy gift.
Had BHO rolled out the red carpet and handed Brown a F 22 Raptor, the Britts would bitch about him trying to swing the election to Brown. Yep, it was a crappy gift , but it won't make a difference in our relationship in the long term.
Of course you're not.
841 | Occasional Reader Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:37am |
re: #834 OldLineTexan
I think we should retaliate by Sun Myung Mooning them.
They say that USN ship is unarmed, but it looks to me like they deployed that rumored "gay bomb" on the Chinese.
842 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:45am |
re: #817 Walter L. Newton
Well of course it's you. If it was Bush, you would be pissing in your pants.
I can't argue with your assumption about what you think I would have done, but I think it's a pissy issue to get worked up over when you we have bigger fish to fry.
843 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:55:25am |
re: #823 avanti
Hard to disagree with that, but my point was that it'll make little difference in the long run. I predict the Britt's will go ga-ga over BHO when he visits Britain.
THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!
844 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:55:45am |
re: #826 JohnAdams
Huck is considered by many to the greatest work in American Literature.
You mean its not The Da Vinci Code? Well, shut my mouth!
/
845 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:55:47am |
re: #839 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
What happened to you, China? You used to be cool.
Hey, we're still cool. You pay later. We still launch missiles, though.
847 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:56:46am |
848 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:56:49am |
re: #843 MandyManners
THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!
The chance to get to post that gets me out of the bed in the mornings.
849 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:56:53am |
re: #841 Occasional Reader
They say that USN ship is unarmed, but it looks to me like they deployed that rumored "gay bomb" on the Chinese.
OK, wasn't there a Grade B movie about a bomb that destroyed clothing?
Maybe the O is running secret tests ...
850 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:57:17am |
re: #841 Occasional Reader
They say that USN ship is unarmed, but it looks to me like they deployed that rumored "gay bomb" on the Chinese.
I cannot believe there are NO weapons aboard....and wtf is this ship out there with no escort at all?
851 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:57:31am |
re: #847 bellamags
amen sister
For some reason he reminds me of a cat in a litter box, busily covering up the shit.
852 | JohnAdams Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:57:36am |
853 | VegasRick Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:57:43am |
854 | Occasional Reader Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:57:53am |
re: #849 OldLineTexan
OK, wasn't there a Grade B movie about a bomb that destroyed clothing?
With Maxwell Smart, IIRC.
855 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:10am |
re: #835 UberInfidel67
I believe we gotta start somewhere and there are numbers on those pages that most people don't know about. The oil and gas industry can and will generate millions and millions of dollars. I just think we should get the word out. I for one will be forwarding that information to my local representative. At least SOMEONE is taking notice.
I have sent several emails to my representative in regards to domestic oil production, being the good little dem she is I get the standard dem response, drilling is not the answer, we must invest in solar and other green energy technology. Along with the gratuitous President Bush left us with a huge deficit. When I called her on it and said all the people in Washington were responsible for the out of control spending, she stopped emailing me back.
856 | Beach Lover Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:12am |
re: #842 avanti
we always have bigger fish to fry! Cause we ignore the little fish when we should be catching them.
857 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:12am |
re: #843 MandyManners
THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!
But that is the FUCKING POINT for Avanti, because Avanti doesn't understand the FUCKING POINT, otherwise he would see why this kind of misuse of protocol is the whole FUCKING POINT.
The FUCKING POINT is he is a spanish slop bucket carrier for the left.
858 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:25am |
re: #848 MandyManners
Mandy,
Your quote about "I hope everyone who didn't vote for McCain...." is my favorite quote on my facebook page. : )
859 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:49am |
re: #851 MandyManners
For some reason he reminds me of a cat in a litter box, busily covering up the shit.
LOL. while looking around to see if anyone is watching.
860 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:56am |
re: #838 Kenneth
"One day even a stubborn Obama supporter like you will be forced to admit that hiring a man with next to no relevant experience was not such a good idea."
Want to bet?
Morning all from a sunny California. Spring has sprung.
861 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:00am |
re: #809 avanti
It must just be me, but I'm not overly worked up about the fact that BHO didn't go over the moon to help a unpopular Prime Minister score some political points. Before the visit, the British press was moaning about the visit being a transparent ploy to gain some political capital, now bitching about a crappy gift.
Had BHO rolled out the red carpet and handed Brown a F 22 Raptor, the Britts would bitch about him trying to swing the election to Brown. Yep, it was a crappy gift , but it won't make a difference in our relationship in the long term.
Come on Avanti, If BHO & Michelle were treated so poorly on a visit to a foreign leader, the media here would go nuts & the Kool Aid drinkers would be bat shit.
Are you really saying that because Brown is not a popular leader in the UK that this rudeness is somehow ok?
862 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:10am |
re: #854 Occasional Reader
With Maxwell Smart, IIRC.
Why oh why couldn't Obama have started a war with the Swedish Bikini Team?
/
863 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:13am |
re: #851 MandyManners
For some reason he reminds me of a cat in a litter box, busily covering up the shit.
Who? Obama or Avanti?
864 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:15am |
re: #857 Walter L. Newton
But that is the FUCKING POINT for Avanti, because Avanti doesn't understand the FUCKING POINT, otherwise he would see why this kind of misuse of protocol is the whole FUCKING POINT.
The FUCKING POINT is he is a spanish slop bucket carrier for the left.
Good morning sweetie. : )
865 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:37am |
re: #860 turn
"One day even a stubborn Obama supporter like you will be forced to admit that hiring a man with next to no relevant experience was not such a good idea."
Want to bet?
Morning all from a sunny California. Spring has sprung.
Time to grow stuff to burn in fires come July!
866 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:55am |
867 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:00:28am |
re: #823 avanti
Hard to disagree with that, but my point was that it'll make little difference in the long run. I predict the Britt's will go ga-ga over BHO when he visits Britain.
They may even afford him courtesy. Who knows?
868 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:00:36am |
869 | JohnAdams Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:00:39am |
re: #855 soxfan4life
I have sent several emails to my representative in regards to domestic oil production, being the good little dem she is I get the standard dem response, drilling is not the answer, we must invest in solar and other green energy technology. Along with the gratuitous President Bush left us with a huge deficit. When I called her on it and said all the people in Washington were responsible for the out of control spending, she stopped emailing me back.
I'm gonna go out to the garage and get a shovel and carry it with me all day. The first person who says "green" fucking anything is going to get whacked. This is no time for junior high science experiments!
870 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:00:46am |
re: #857 Walter L. Newton
But that is the FUCKING POINT for Avanti, because Avanti doesn't understand the FUCKING POINT, otherwise he would see why this kind of misuse of protocol is the whole FUCKING POINT.
The FUCKING POINT is he is a spanish slop bucket carrier for the left.
Spanish?
871 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:00:58am |
It's official. Jack Nicholson was right.
I can't handle the truth.
/or da troof
872 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:06am |
re: #862 OldLineTexan
Why oh why couldn't Obama have started a war with the Swedish Bikini Team?
/
I'd surrender.
873 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:12am |
re: #858 bellamags
Mandy,
Your quote about "I hope everyone who didn't vote for McCain...." is my favorite quote on my facebook page. : )
Glad to help!
874 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:30am |
re: #865 OldLineTexan
Time to grow stuff to burn in fires come July!
Oh man, don't even joke. Things are really growing with all the recent rains we've gotten. Seven day forecast is nothing but sunshine. Time for spring cleaning, which is exactly what turn did all weekend.
875 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:38am |
876 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:39am |
re: #862 OldLineTexan
Why oh why couldn't Obama have started a war with the Swedish Bikini Team?
/
If there aren't a dozen or so Playboy Playmates in that movie then I think it needs to be remade.
877 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:41am |
re: #822 lawhawk
Just an excellent comment lawhawk - really excellent.
Don't know about N.J., but it would appear that Obama thinks the best way to socialize America is to destroy it's economy first.
I personally think he either believes this or is just daft!
878 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:42am |
re: #869 JohnAdams
I'm gonna go out to the garage and get a shovel and carry it with me all day. The first person who says "green" fucking anything is going to get whacked. This is no time for junior high science experiments!
Give em 1 for me too.
879 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:02:06am |
880 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:02:10am |
re: #874 turn
Oh man, don't even joke. Things are really growing with all the recent rains we've gotten. Seven day forecast is nothing but sunshine. Time for spring cleaning, which is exactly what turn did all weekend.
I know why it's the Golden State.
881 | JohnAdams Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:02:17am |
re: #858 bellamags
Mandy,
Your quote about "I hope everyone who didn't vote for McCain...." is my favorite quote on my facebook page. : )
You tease. What's the rest of the quote?
882 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:02:39am |
re: #876 Ford_Prefect
If there aren't a dozen or so Playboy Playmates in that movie then I think it needs to be remade.
Like the Playboy Playmates have been remade.
883 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:01am |
885 | SasquatchOnSteroids Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:07am |
re: #869 JohnAdams
I'm gonna go out to the garage and get a shovel and carry it with me all day. The first person who says "green" fucking anything is going to get whacked. This is no time for junior high science experiments!
Send a message to the Governor.
ooowwwww.
886 | MJ Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:16am |
Obama Administration throws Lebanon and Israel under the bus re: Syria and it's support for terrorism:
( Question from Reporter)- The second question is, without asking you to delve into any of the details of your conversations today: first, if you could give us a sense of your itinerary going forward; and secondly, we must bear in mind that these are discussions you’re having with representatives of a country that is still on the State Department’s list of nations that sponsor terrorism, and I wonder if you could, again, without delving into the areas that you specifically discussed, give us a sense of how actively you believe the Syrian Government is still engaged in terrorist activities in and out of the region. Thank you....
....AMBASSADOR FELTMAN:
....In terms of Syria, FTO, et cetera, as I said, we’ve got concerns with Syria, I’m sure Syria has concerns with us. Today was an opportunity to start to raise some of these concerns with each other directly, in addition to the dialogue that takes place already between our embassies and officials in capitals. You know, the reason why Syria is on that list is because Syria is playing host to some organizations like Hamas, you know, and we believe that Syria is supporting groups like Hezbollah. I think everyone knows why Syria is on that list.
But you know, my job today was not finger pointing per se....
[Link: www.state.gov...]
In other words, the US no longer gives a shit about Syria's support of Hamas and Syria's role in undermining Lebanese territorial integrity and it's support of Hezbollah.
The most important thing is that we have PEACE, according to Obama.
887 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:24am |
re: #879 Walter L. Newton
A line from the musical "The Fantastiks." "A Spanish slop bucket."
Ahhh ...
"Try and remember
A no Obama September ..."
888 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:29am |
re: #881 JohnAdams
You tease. What's the rest of the quote?
"I hope everyone who didn't vote for McCain because he wasn't conservative enough is fucking happy now."
889 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:37am |
890 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:48am |
re: #823 avanti Well SOME Brits will go ga-ga over Obama's visit. Goerge Galloways constituents in Betheln Green for example. Personally I hope the Queen makes him wait for 20 minutes or so and then just tells him she had some important things to attend to!
891 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:50am |
892 | rightside Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:30am |
re: #857 Walter L. Newton
C'mon Walter, tell us how you really feel. Stop being so diplomatic about it.
893 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:35am |
re: #859 bellamags
LOL. while looking around to see if anyone is watching.
And getting litter all over the place.
894 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:37am |
895 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:50am |
This is not the Spanish slop bucket I knew.
896 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:05:40am |
re: #886 MJ
The most important thing is that we have PEACE, according to Obama.
Peace is unattainable. Never going to happen.
897 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:05:45am |
re: #860 turn
"One day even a stubborn Obama supporter like you will be forced to admit that hiring a man with next to no relevant experience was not such a good idea."
Want to bet?
Morning all from a sunny California. Spring has sprung.
The blooms from the pear tree nearest this window seem to poke their heads through the glass! When the sun hits it just so, it's blinding.
898 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:05:57am |
re: #890 realwest
Well SOME Brits will go ga-ga over Obama's visit. Goerge Galloways constituents in Betheln Green for example. Personally I hope the Queen makes him wait for 20 minutes or so and then just tells him she had some important things to attend to!
give him a handful of comic books on the way out
899 | Texas Heathen Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:08am |
Did anybody else see this article.
The part that really makes my blood boil is right here.
"Is there anything wrong with saying, 'Yes'?" a Times reporter pressed.
UM Yes I think that the POTUS admitting he is a socialist would be very wrong you f*ing idiot.
900 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:25am |
Periwinkle is starting to bud in the front yard. Love the color.
901 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:35am |
re: #896 bellamags
Peace is unattainable. Never going to happen.
Amen to that. No, unfortunately we cannot always just get along and when that happens, you sometimes have to whack people. A fact of life.
902 | Panhandler Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:37am |
re: #894 albusteve
they will tax beauty this year
So those with "enhancements" will also have to pay a value added tax?
903 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:41am |
re: #826 JohnAdams
Good morning to you. Yes indeed you are correct about Huck Finn being one of the greatest works of American literature. Yet schoolboards across the country - going back maybe two years now - were trying to ban Huckleberry Finn because the novel used the "N" word I think about 8 times.
That's no joke - I've never written more letters to more school boards or politicians than I have over that one issue.
904 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:48am |
re: #863 Ford_Prefect
Who? Obama or Avanti?
The latter. FCBBHO seems to think it's okay to poop in the middle of the kitchen.
905 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:51am |
Hey all you patriots out there in lizard land, you have got to watch the movie "Taking Chance". I watched it Saturday on cable. OMG I teared up the whole time, absolutely gripping.
906 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:53am |
re: #893 MandyManners
And getting litter all over the place.
We had a cat that would try to cover her mess up with AIR. She would go through the motions, but never touch the litter with her paws. She was a faker. LOL.
907 | JohnAdams Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:53am |
re: #888 bellamags
"I hope everyone who didn't vote for McCain because he wasn't conservative enough is fucking happy now."
Great.
Yeah, the complete destruction of our national economy is a pretty steep price to pay for the sake of making a point.
908 | Beach Lover Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:56am |
re: #877 realwest
morning {real}....I'm beginning to think he really believes it and is on a mission to destroy us. There can be no other explaination...common sense says it's political to the Dems in office, but he has never really been one of them. I believe his agenda is for more than to get reelected.
*I know ....my tin foil hat is showing*
909 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:58am |
re: #898 albusteve
give him a handful of comic books on the way out
DC Comics. That'll tick him off.
910 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:07:13am |
re: #843 MandyManners
THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!
OK, what is the point ? I get that BHO made a protocol mistake last week. I just don't think it will have a lasting effect on our relationship with the Britts. It reminds me of the Mission Accomplished banner dust up. I'm sure GW did not come up with the idea, nor was it meant to mean what the left spun it to mean, yet he got the blame. I don't think BHO planned to give the British a snub, his acting protocol director screwed up, and the buck stops with him, but like the banner, it not as big a deal as its been made out to be.
He'll visit Great Britain next month, and do his rock star thing and all will be forgiven.
912 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:07:50am |
re: #894 albusteve
they will tax beauty this year
Oh shit, the hippies in SF and Berkley get yet another pass.
913 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:07am |
re: #900 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Periwinkle is starting to bud in the front yard. Love the color.
914 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:12am |
re: #904 MandyManners
The latter. FCBBHO seems to think it's okay to poop in the middle of the kitchen.
If he asks my dog, he will get agreement.
915 | Creeping Eruption Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:27am |
re: #912 turn
Oh shit, the hippies in SF and Berkley get yet another pass.
/Don't they get a religious exemption anyway?
916 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:33am |
re: #904 MandyManners
The latter. FCBBHO seems to think it's okay to poop in the middle of
the kitchenWall Street.
FIFY
917 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:43am |
re: #901 Walter L. Newton
Amen to that. No, unfortunately we cannot always just get along and when that happens, you sometimes have to whack people. A fact of life.
true that. Have you ever said that to anyone? I have, and the reactions are funny. They think I am an evil bitch.
918 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:44am |
re: #830 Ford_Prefect Keep 'em coming Ford!
Here's one I'm sure you'll enjoy:
"It can probably be shown with facts and figures that there is no such thing as a native American Criminal class. Congresss exculed, of course."
919 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:55am |
re: #900 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Periwinkle is starting to bud in the front yard. Love the color.
Stop it, stop it. Winter can't be over. We had a dry winter in the Denver area. Mountains got what they needed for the ski industry, but the fronts just keep breaking up as they spilled over the divide.
I want one good dumper before the spring.
920 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:09:29am |
re: #897 MandyManners
The blooms from the pear tree nearest this window seem to poke their heads through the glass! When the sun hits it just so, it's blinding.
Ha, during part of the spring cleaning I mentioned I ran across a window in a bedroom I don't use much. A fern had grown is about 2 ft! Yes, it has been a long time between cleanings.
921 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:09:33am |
re: #902 Panhandler
So those with "enhancements" will also have to pay a value added tax?
silicon/botox tax
922 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:09:46am |
re: #890 realwest
Well SOME Brits will go ga-ga over Obama's visit. Goerge Galloways constituents in Betheln Green for example. Personally I hope the Queen makes him wait for 20 minutes or so and then just tells him she had some important things to attend to!
Whats the over & under of Michelle asking the Queen for one of her jewels?
923 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:09:50am |
re: #886 MJ
AMBASSADOR FELTMAN:
....In terms of Syria, FTO, et cetera, as I said, we’ve got concerns with Syria, I’m sure Syria has concerns with us.
Moral equivalence once again rears its ugly head. He is saying that our concerns about Syria's support of Iran and terrorists is on the same plane as their concern about us supporting Israel.
924 | Killer Tomato Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:10:10am |
re: #899 Texas Heathen
Did anybody else see this article.
The part that really makes my blood boil is right here.
UM Yes I think that the POTUS admitting he is a socialist would be very wrong you f*ing idiot.
Must be some kind of new system in place - the POTUS gets a 'do-over' if he isn't happy with the answer he gave during a press conference.
change!
925 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:10:16am |
re: #831 albusteve
Wait until you get to the part of his life when he was living in Conn. and insisted on paying the full tuition room and board for Yale's very first Black student and his reasons for doing so.
It'll make you proud that Twain was an American.
926 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:10:18am |
Media Spins Obama's Withdrawal Of Troops That Were Planned Months Ago
Obama's "new" Iraq policy, was actually the old Bush policy.
(No) Change and Hope (nobody notices)
927 | MJ Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:10:20am |
So the Senate Foreign Relations Committee meets last week and invites just two Jew-haters to speak on it's "U.S. Strategy Regarding Iran" hearing:
Another point of controversy last week was Thursday's meeting of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, where Zbigniew Brzezinski and Brent Scowcroft -- former national security advisers for Presidents Carter and George H.W. Bush, respectively -- were the sole witnesses for the "U.S. Strategy Regarding Iran" hearing. "When Brzezinski used his short opening statement to say Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should be cautious about listening to Israel's ideas, the red flag really went up," one Jewish leader told the Jerusalem Post afterward.
[Link: thehill.com...]
929 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:10:30am |
re: #905 turn
Hey all you patriots out there in lizard land, you have got to watch the movie "Taking Chance". I watched it Saturday on cable. OMG I teared up the whole time, absolutely gripping.
One of the best movies that I have ever seen.
930 | JohnAdams Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:11:02am |
re: #903 realwest
Good morning to you. Yes indeed you are correct about Huck Finn being one of the greatest works of American literature. Yet schoolboards across the country - going back maybe two years now - were trying to ban Huckleberry Finn because the novel used the "N" word I think about 8 times.
That's no joke - I've never written more letters to more school boards or politicians than I have over that one issue.
Good morning real. I taught the novel during my brief career as a HS English teacher. I deliberately kept using the word until one kid finally cracked and got pissed and then we had a very good conversation about race and language and how it has changed over time. We were not cowards that day.
931 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:11:09am |
re: #913 OldLineTexan
"'I steal no gold, I drink no beer,
I eat no kind of meat;
but People slam their doors in fear,
whenever they hear my feet."
*Sniff* It's like you know me. *Wipes away a tear*
932 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:11:19am |
re: #924 Killer Tomato
Must be some kind of new system in place - the POTUS gets a 'do-over' if he isn't happy with the answer he gave during a press conference.
change!
"Let me get back to you sweetie."
933 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:11:50am |
re: #910 avanti
OK, what is the point ? I get that BHO made a protocol mistake last week. I just don't think it will have a lasting effect on our relationship with the Britts. It reminds me of the Mission Accomplished banner dust up. I'm sure GW did not come up with the idea, nor was it meant to mean what the left spun it to mean, yet he got the blame. I don't think BHO planned to give the British a snub, his acting protocol director screwed up, and the buck stops with him, but like the banner, it not as big a deal as its been made out to be.
He'll visit Great Britain next month, and do his rock star thing and all will be forgiven.
934 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:11:55am |
936 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:12:08am |
re: #925 realwest
Wait until you get to the part of his life when he was living in Conn. and insisted on paying the full tuition room and board for Yale's very first Black student and his reasons for doing so.
It'll make you proud that Twain was an American.
I'm gonna get after it later today on the net....can you recommend a bio of him?
937 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:12:18am |
re: #900 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Periwinkle is starting to bud in the front yard. Love the color.
Real men don't say "Periwinkle". We say "Vinca minor".
938 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:03am |
re: #906 bellamags
We had a cat that would try to cover her mess up with AIR. She would go through the motions, but never touch the litter with her paws. She was a faker. LOL.
You weren't supposed to notice that poop!
940 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:07am |
re: #918 realwest
"The government of my country snubs honest simplicity, but fondles artistic villainy, and I think I might have developed into a very capable pickpocket if I had remained in the public service a year or two."
- Roughing It, Mark Twain
941 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:18am |
re: #857 Walter L. Newton
Why Walter - how elegant for you to say - and, of course, spot fucking on!
942 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:18am |
943 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:25am |
944 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:45am |
re: #910 avanti
OK, what is the point ? I get that BHO made a protocol mistake last week. I just don't think it will have a lasting effect on our relationship with the Britts. It reminds me of the Mission Accomplished banner dust up. I'm sure GW did not come up with the idea, nor was it meant to mean what the left spun it to mean, yet he got the blame. I don't think BHO planned to give the British a snub, his acting protocol director screwed up, and the buck stops with him, but like the banner, it not as big a deal as its been made out to be.
He'll visit Great Britain next month, and do his rock star thing and all will be forgiven.
I will talk slowly to make the point...
O B A M A a n d h i s a d m i n i s t r a t i o n d o n o t
k n o w w h a t t h e y a r e d o i n g.
Got that. They are children playing like adults. The man is even having trouble making it through a full day of work without complaining that he is tired.
945 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:54am |
946 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:55am |
947 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:59am |
re: #907 JohnAdams
Great.
Yeah, the complete destruction of our national economy is a pretty steep price to pay for the sake of making a point.
Don't forget our foreign relations.
948 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:14:05am |
re: #935 rightside
Ha! Beat you to it!
re: #769 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Heh...Charles is Wikipedia?
Wikipedia scrubs Obama eligibility:
Mention of citizenship issues deleted in minutes, 'offending' users bannedYay, Wikipedia (for once).
Of course, they also remove any mentions of BHO's associations, etc.
949 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:14:45am |
re: #929 opnion
One of the best movies that I have ever seen.
For me the tears started with the stewardess on the airplane. Don't want to give too much away.
951 | FrogMarch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:15:35am |
Hollywad celebrates a monster's birthday.
oooo but he's a good ol' left-wing monster - so he's cool.
952 | JohnAdams Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:16:11am |
re: #917 bellamags
true that. Have you ever said that to anyone? I have, and the reactions are funny. They think I am an evil bitch.
I used to have this Orwell quote above my desk:
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
953 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:16:18am |
re: #944 Walter L. Newton
I will talk slowly to make the point...
O B A M A a n d h i s a d m i n i s t r a t i o n d o n o t
k n o w w h a t t h e y a r e d o i n g.
Got that. They are children playing like adults. The man is even having trouble making it through a full day of work without complaining that he is tired.
Kids playing dress-up in their parents room. Trying on suits, shoes, hats, gloves. Nothing really fits, but they try it on anyway. They walk around the house, stumbling. Still not realizing everything is TOO BIG and TOO GROWN-UP for them to handle.
954 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:16:37am |
re: #939 bellamags
I thought over the weekend that this is the best way to deal with the guy, maybe it will be a race to see who stikes him out first.
955 | rightside Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:01am |
re: #948 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Good spot, missed that one earlier! Must have been getting a tofu bagel.
956 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:07am |
re: #952 JohnAdams
I used to have this Orwell quote above my desk:
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
oooooooo. I LIKE that.
957 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:10am |
re: #886 MJ Excellent comment MJ - reported it to Charles for a possible thread.
958 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:14am |
959 | Creeping Eruption Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:36am |
And people wonder why Britain is headed in the direction it is: Isn't Auschwitz the name of a beer?
961 | Leonidas Hoplite Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:18:05am |
re: #905 turn
Hey all you patriots out there in lizard land, you have got to watch the movie "Taking Chance". I watched it Saturday on cable. OMG I teared up the whole time, absolutely gripping.
Good to know - I caught the last 20 minutes or so about a week ago and asked if anyone here had seen it and recommend. My patience has been rewarded.
963 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:18:51am |
re: #951 FrogMarch
Hollywad celebrates a monster's birthday.
oooo but he's a good ol' left-wing monster - so he's cool.
965 | scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:00am |
re: #940 Ford_Prefect
"The government of my country snubs honest simplicity, but fondles artistic villainy, and I think I might have developed into a very capable pickpocket if I had remained in the public service a year or two."
- Roughing It, Mark Twain
Oh, I like that, Ford...and how true.
Good morning, Lizard Clan!
966 | tackle Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:08am |
re: #953 bellamags
Kids playing dress-up in their parents room. Trying on suits, shoes, hats, gloves. Nothing really fits, but they try it on anyway. They walk around the house, stumbling. Still not realizing everything is TOO BIG and TOO GROWN-UP for them to handle.
I was thinking about all of the screw-ups, large and small, of this administration and wondering how he'd be treated differently if he was white or republican.
On a related thought, I'd like to be a fly on the wall at the Bush ranch.
967 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:30am |
re: #944 Walter L. Newton
I will talk slowly to make the point...
O B A M A a n d h i s a d m i n i s t r a t i o n d o n o t
k n o w w h a t t h e y a r e d o i n g.
Got that. They are children playing like adults. The man is even having trouble making it through a full day of work without complaining that he is tired.
I think FCBBHO knows *exactly* what he's doing. You don't fuck up the economy or diplomatic protocol as consistently as he has by accident. This ain't slipping on a banana peel.
968 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:45am |
re: #956 bellamags
oooooooo. I LIKE that.
A friend of mine constantly reminds me that I'm too black and white, and I tell him that when the shit finally hits the fan, it's usually the black and white people who get the job of cleaning it all up.
969 | VegasRick Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:53am |
re: #951 FrogMarch
Hollywad celebrates a monster's birthday.
oooo but he's a good ol' left-wing monster - so he's cool.
What did Mary Jo Kopechne have to say?
970 | OldLineTexan Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:06am |
972 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:25am |
re: #961 Leonidas Hoplite
Good to know - I caught the last 20 minutes or so about a week ago and asked if anyone here had seen it and recommend. My patience has been rewarded.
I really think the movie could be considered a test of your patriotism, if you don't tear up you fail.
973 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:38am |
re: #925 realwest
Wait until you get to the part of his life when he was living in Conn. and insisted on paying the full tuition room and board for Yale's very first Black student and his reasons for doing so.
It'll make you proud that Twain was an American.
His house in Hartford is a must see if anyone comes this way.
974 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:45am |
re: #963 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We did notice our "Ear Leader" wasn't too tired to attend Teddy's party.
975 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:57am |
re: #952 JohnAdams
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
* Alternative: "We sleep safely at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would harm us."
* In his 1945 "Notes on Nationalism", Orwell claimed that the statement, "Those who ‘abjure’ violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf" was a "grossly obvious" fact. "Notes on Nationalism"
* Notes: allegedly said by George Orwell although there is no evidence that Orwell ever wrote or uttered either of these versions of this idea. They do bear some similarity to comments made in an essay that Orwell wrote on Rudyard Kipling, when quoting from one of his poems. Orwell did write, in his essay on Kipling, that the latter's "grasp of function, of who protects whom, is very sound. He sees clearly that men can only be highly civilized while other men, inevitably less civilized, are there to guard and feed them." (1942)
o "Yes, making mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep" - Rudyard Kipling (Tommy)
o "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it." - Aaron Sorkin (A Few Good Men)
* Alternative: "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." - Winston Churchill (miscellaneous quotation, no date)
976 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:33am |
re: #968 Walter L. Newton
A friend of mine constantly reminds me that I'm too black and white, and I tell him that when the shit finally hits the fan, it's usually the black and white people who get the job of cleaning it all up.
Heh. how true. (eeeww)
977 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:38am |
re: #908 Beach Lover
Hey {Beach Lover} - well you're tin foil is showing a little - but frankly not a helluva lot. I used to think he was deliberately assisting in tanking the US economy so he'd look better when he rode in and solved everything. Now I'm afraid the stupid pos just doesn't know how to solve ANY of our economic woes.
This is sorta "Governing 101" a class that Obama wasn't even enrolled in, much less being "present" 98% of the time.
978 | scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:44am |
979 | jcm Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:51am |
re: #967 MandyManners
I think FCBBHO knows *exactly* what he's doing. You don't fuck up the economy or diplomatic protocol as consistently as he has by accident. This ain't slipping on a banana peel.
I'm glad I'm not the only paranoid one.
;-)
980 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:22am |
981 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:24am |
982 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:25am |
re: #965 scottishbuzzsaw
Oh, I like that, Ford...and how true.
Good morning, Lizard Clan!
Morning scotti, I didn't see that quote upthread but isn't it a perfect description of the contrast between O and Bush?
983 | Kosh's Shadow Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:27am |
With the Russian button fiasco last week, I'm wondering when the 0bama administration will decide to launch a new relationship with Iran or North Korea.
984 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:28am |
985 | FrogMarch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:49am |
987 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:23:36am |
re: #979 jcm
I'm glad I'm not the only paranoid one.
;-)
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they're not out to get you.
988 | JohnAdams Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:23:49am |
989 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:23:52am |
re: #922 opnion OVer/under is 55/45 and the folks in Lost Wages are surpised at the action they're getting on that line!
992 | Amer-I-Can Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:24:27am |
re: #951 FrogMarch
Hollywad celebrates a monster's birthday.
oooo but he's a good ol' left-wing monster - so he's cool.
Is it just me or does every picture of Ted Kennedy look like his head is about to explode?
Happy Birthday you sodden old shit bag...
993 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:25:08am |
994 | scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:25:15am |
re: #982 turn
Morning scotti, I didn't see that quote upthread but isn't it a perfect description of the contrast between O and Bush?
Indeed.
How are you doing today? How's your family?
995 | bellamags Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:25:58am |
bbiab. speaking of heart palpatations, i need to go outside. i have had too much coffee.
996 | yma o hyd Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:25:59am |
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Another stormy day, weather-wise certainly ...
Here's a pretty upsetting report of that Davis Cup meeting in Sweden:
Its a report by one of the Israeli tennis players.
999 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:27:02am |
re: #940 Ford_Prefect
"...no country can be well governed unless its citizens as a body keep religiously before their minds that they are the guardians of the law and that the law officers are only the machinery for its execution, nothing more."
- The Gilded Age, Mark Twain
Did I mention that I share a birthday with Mark twain? Of course he is younger than me.
1000 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:27:16am |
re: #991 onslow
The Bee is my hometown paper, canceled my subscription 15+ year ago. Ha, I used to complain it was nothing but advertising.
1001 | MJ Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:27:31am |
The Left and Lyndon LaRoche:
This how low the Left is willing to go. The Nation magazine, bastion of Leftist thinking, supports the terrorists at Hamas in their desire to kill Jews because Hamas is anti-Israel.
They support the antisemitism propagated by the homophobic, misogynist society which is Saudi Arabia, and they have Robert Dreyfuss on staff supporting the anti-antisemitic Chas Freeman. Who is Dreyfuss? He's the editor of the Lyndon LaRoche publication, Executive Review.
[Link: www.thenation.com...]
For more on Dreyfuss, see
[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]
1002 | scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:27:45am |
1004 | Shr_Nfr Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:28:46am |
Another one of those magical mystery dates 3/9/09 - The fourth root of the second digit times the fourth root of the third digit times the ratio of the second and third digit equals the first digit. Amazing. Yeah, right.
1005 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:28:48am |
re: #926 Kenneth
Excellent post Kenneth - and it evidences a REAL problem we have - the MSM can't possibly die fast enough for America. The way they've covered up for Obama, created reasons for his gaffes ("he's so tired") and try to redirect thinking to foreing policy that is working - although it's Bush's foreign policy that's working which the MSM won't tell us about, is absolutely disgraceful.
Either the asshats in the MSM are deliberately covering up for Obama or they've totally lost any "journalistic" or even "intellectual" integrity at all.
1006 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:29:24am |
1007 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:29:48am |
raining in ABQ...been about seven months with no water...
1008 | Spare O'Lake Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:29:50am |
Bust sent back to England, Churchill feels no pain,
Feeling so much better than Gordon Brown.
Barack thumbed down AF-One, and they all climbed aboard,
And rode it all the way to Chicago town.
Michelle pulled her blackberry, out of her new Gucci purse,
Calling mom while Barack screwed the Jews.
While he sent funds to Palestine, she ordered a bottle of vintage wine,
And they sang every song that Barack knew.
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose,
And nothing is what America means to them.
Feeling good was easy, when Barack screwed the Jews,
Feeling good is good enough for him,
Good enough to fist-bump her again.
1009 | Creeping Eruption Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:29:58am |
re: #1006 Kenneth
Excellent find.
The Left today truly have become Anti-Semitic Fascists.
Its been happening for the last 10-15 years IMHO
1011 | scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:30:14am |
1012 | Golem Akbar Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:30:34am |
I gotta say: good morning Lizards!
[okay then, good morning Lizards]
1013 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:30:42am |
re: #994 scottishbuzzsaw
Indeed.
How are you doing today? How's your family?
I'm ok considering I'm going to be canning a guy on Thursday, thanks Scottie. But turnspawn is really beating himself up over that 502, but the turnwife is at least talking to him again. Oh man, we got like 16 letters from 502 attorneys on Saturday and the kid doesn't even live at home anymore.
1014 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:31:07am |
re: #1005 realwest
They are covering up for Obama, but also for themselves. The media invested so much in the myth of Obama, they will have a very hard time admitting their mistake. The words "We screwed up!" don't come easy.
1015 | nyc redneck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:31:32am |
re: #922 opnion
Whats the over & under of Michelle asking the Queen for one of her jewels?
omg, that is a possibility. lol
"spread the jewels around"
1016 | aussiemagpie Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:31:48am |
Bedtime, and I've spent hours reading a lot of links posted here - thanks to everyone who posted links tonight - some very interesting reading!
Now tonight's view of OZ....
Taronga Zoo, which surely has the best view for a zoo!
And no, the roos don't have the best views in the zoo :-)
The elephants and giraffes do
Have a wonderful yesterday {everyone}!
1017 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:32:12am |
1018 | Amer-I-Can Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:32:50am |
re: #1007 albusteve
raining in ABQ...been about seven months with no water...
SWEET! I'm an old Rio Rancho guy myself... I remember those dry spells well.
1019 | CIA Reject Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:03am |
re: #1014 Kenneth
They are covering up for Obama, but also for themselves. The media invested so much in the myth of Obama, they will have a very hard time admitting their mistake. The words "We screwed up!" don't come easy.
And when they discover that they can avoid those words by flambeing BO, he's toast ...
/LOOK - OVER THERE!
1020 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:37am |
re: #996 yma o hyd
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Another stormy day, weather-wise certainly ...
Here's a pretty upsetting report of that Davis Cup meeting in Sweden:
Its a report by one of the Israeli tennis players.
Morning yma, " In this respect, the best service we can do for ourselves and for the country is to win, and I believe we can do it. " Ha, there's the spirit!
1021 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:38am |
re: #1014 Kenneth
They are covering up for Obama, but also for themselves. The media invested so much in the myth of Obama, they will have a very hard time admitting their mistake. The words "We screwed up!" don't come easy.
I'll settle for them telling us they are not as smart as they think they are.
1022 | Kosh's Shadow Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:48am |
If we're talking about Kennedy, you know he uses ATT cell phones-
because they have more
bars
in more places.
1023 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:49am |
re: #949 turn
For me the tears started with the stewardess on the airplane. Don't want to give too much away.
It was a great disply of honor & respect, all the way around.
1024 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:34:10am |
re: #951 FrogMarch
Good morning FrogMarch - from your link: "Bill Cosby, Lauren Bacall, John Williams, and Bernadette Peters"
couldn't get any A listers for Ted's belated birthday party.
They're probably all busy setting up off-shore or Swiss bank accounts now that they understand Obama's tax policy.
1025 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:34:30am |
speaking of those crazy Aussies...they do this once in a while....
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
1027 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:35:37am |
1028 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:35:48am |
re: #1023 opnion
It was a great disply of honor & respect, all the way around.
Although I never met him, I miss Chance Phelps.
1029 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:35:52am |
re: #999 Ford_Prefect
"The mania for giving the Government power to meddle with the private affairs of cities or citizens is likely to cause endless trouble, through the rivaly of schools and creeds that are anxious to obtain official recognition, and there is great danger that our people will lose our independence of thought and action which is the cause of much of our greatness, and sink into the helplessness of the Frenchman or German who expects his government to feed him when hungry, clothe him when naked, to prescribe when his child may be born and when he may die, and, in fine, to regulate every act of humanity from the cradle to the tomb, including the manner in which he may seek future admission to paradise."
--Mark Twain
It's like the man were living today.
1030 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:36:41am |
re: #1018 Amer-I-Can
SWEET! I'm an old Rio Rancho guy myself... I remember those dry spells well.
indeed...not alot but we've had the driest winter on record...pretty good sno w up north and CO has alot we'll get, but rainfall counts too especially out in the wilds...you knew that of course
1031 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:36:51am |
re: #1013 turn
I'm ok considering I'm going to be canning a guy on Thursday, thanks Scottie. But turnspawn is really beating himself up over that 502, but the turnwife is at least talking to him again. Oh man, we got like 16 letters from 502 attorneys on Saturday and the kid doesn't even live at home anymore.
Why are those attorneys writing to you since you're not the client?
1032 | onslow Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:37:04am |
re: #1027 MandyManners
Unfortunately, you are probably correct.
1033 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:37:15am |
re: #1005 realwest
Excellent post Kenneth - and it evidences a REAL problem we have - the MSM can't possibly die fast enough for America. The way they've covered up for Obama, created reasons for his gaffes ("he's so tired") and try to redirect thinking to foreing policy that is working - although it's Bush's foreign policy that's working which the MSM won't tell us about, is absolutely disgraceful.
Either the asshats in the MSM are deliberately covering up for Obama or they've totally lost any "journalistic" or even "intellectual" integrity at all.
Morning real, hey read Goldberg's "Slobbering Love Affair" when you get a chance, they're covering.
1034 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:38:27am |
re: #1021 soxfan4life
I'll settle for them telling us they are not as smart as they think they are.
Don't hold your breath, my friend.
1035 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:38:27am |
1036 | jcm Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:21am |
re: #1029 Ford_Prefect
"The mania for giving the Government power to meddle with the private affairs of cities or citizens is likely to cause endless trouble, through the rivaly of schools and creeds that are anxious to obtain official recognition, and there is great danger that our people will lose our independence of thought and action which is the cause of much of our greatness, and sink into the helplessness of the Frenchman or German who expects his government to feed him when hungry, clothe him when naked, to prescribe when his child may be born and when he may die, and, in fine, to regulate every act of humanity from the cradle to the tomb, including the manner in which he may seek future admission to paradise."
--Mark TwainIt's like the man were living today.
Some truths are eternal. The left believes all truth is relative.
1037 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:23am |
re: #962 FrogMarch Geez, from your link: "Obama's budget more than doubles the national debt held by the public, and adds more to the debt than all previous presidents -- from George Washington to George W. Bush -- combined.[emphasis realwest] and you hadda get that from a blog no less.
If Obama were a Republican, it'd a been a continuing front page story and top of the hour video for the MSM since the budget was proposed.
1038 | Russkilitlover Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:32am |
Good morning, everyone.
I'm a bit cranky due to the loss of an hour (I HATE that), but will get over it when I get home in daylight this evening!
Didn't get any time to check in to LGF over the weekend, so I've been reviewing the posts this morning. And what do I see? Our annointed leader is "too tired" to perform his job! This man is unfit to lead and unqualified to be anywhere near this office.
Is everyone sleeping better knowing that our enemies are watching with jaws dropped on the floor just as we are - only in their case, they can't believe their good fortune?
Good grief!
1039 | yma o hyd Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:37am |
re: #1020 turn
Morning yma, " In this respect, the best service we can do for ourselves and for the country is to win, and I believe we can do it. " Ha, there's the spirit!
True.
It still begs the question why the Tennis association (or whatever the name of the body is) hasn't launched massive protests - and why the Swedes haven't done anything at all, except provide police.
Where are all the Swedes who love humanity?
Are they now all Jew Haters?
I still can't get my head round this.
1040 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:52am |
re: #1036 jcm
Some truths are eternal. The left believes all truth is relative.
That depends on who your relatives are.
1041 | Diamond Bullet Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:55am |
One of the most odious NY Times articles I've ever read (and they give themselves fierce competition):
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
I can't even tell if it's self-parody. Who honestly thinks this:
Speaking of violence, it’s worth recalling what Israel did in Gaza in response to sporadic Hamas rockets. It killed upward of 1,300 people, many of them women and children; caused damage estimated at $1.9 billion; and destroyed thousands of Gaza homes. It continues a radicalizing blockade on 1.5 million people squeezed into a narrow strip of land.
At this vast human, material and moral price, Israel achieved almost nothing beyond damage to its image throughout the world. Israel has the right to hit back when attacked, but any response should be proportional and governed by sober political calculation. The Gaza war was a travesty; I have never previously felt so shamed by Israel’s actions.
1042 | MJ Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:40:07am |
Chas Freeman's son uses the language of coded antisemitism:
"His appointment is being challenged these days by a small cabal of folks that believe first and foremost in the importance of allegiance to Israel as a core U.S. priority.
Putting aside my natural instinct as a son to want to punch some of these guys in the face for some of the things they are saying about my father, for heaven's sake, I'm more deeply angry about the lack of guile some of these people have.
Steve Rosen (what do you say about someone on indictment for espionage calling someone else un-American (ANSWER: chutzpah!), Jon Chait (who has scaled new lows); someone who used to be someone in Soviet studies named Gabriel Schoenfeld; the unpleasant Marty Peretz; and the usual lurid commentators from the comic book approach to international affairs (the nasty, narrow, dogmatic children from NRO and their ilk (although I'm glad you changed your mind about marching for Pride in Jerusalem, Jamie). Goodness! I do think it's perfectly acceptable to be more loyal to Israel, even as an American citizen. But I also think that should disqualify you from any serious discussion about American interests in the Middle East. ...
...Wish that could be said about his detractors. They are low-lives. And if you're among them and by chance read this: I still want to punch you in the face. You'd deserve it, you schmucks. "
He's a flat out Jew-hater.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
1043 | Amer-I-Can Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:40:36am |
re: #1030 albusteve
indeed...not alot but we've had the driest winter on record...pretty good sno w up north and CO has alot we'll get, but rainfall counts too especially out in the wilds...you knew that of course
Is Sandia dry as well? We could always count on the run off once the melt started. I haven't been back to that area in 10 years or so.
It has always been fun trying to explain the concept of "high desert" to the uninitiated.
1044 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:04am |
re: #1041 Diamond Bullet
Well. It was only because of "sporadic rocket attack".
So, blame the Juice.
1045 | FrogMarch Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:11am |
re: #1024 realwest
Good morning FrogMarch - from your link: "Bill Cosby, Lauren Bacall, John Williams, and Bernadette Peters"
couldn't get any A listers for Ted's belated birthday party.
They're probably all busy setting up off-shore or Swiss bank accounts now that they understand Obama's tax policy.
Hi Realwest.
No A-listers. Why would anyone want to celebrate his birthday? Answer: He's a holy left-wing icon. A left-wing icon who happened to leave a woman to die in his car. For reasons I cannot understand - Left-wing bubble-dwellers have no problem over-looking that fact.
1046 | jcm Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:18am |
re: #1040 Ford_Prefect
That depends on who your relatives are.
*SNORT*
*shakes coffee out of keyboard*
1047 | SurferDoc Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:25am |
Greetings from the lovely, windswept Mojave Desert.
Are we still a Republic?
1048 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:42:42am |
re: #1017 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I read it four times.
Huh?
Oh sorry, my oldest son got a DUI last week. He's a good kid, generally very responsible, and this was his first run in with the law. He blew a 0.09% and the limit is 0.08%. He thought he was fine, just had a couple of beers with clients over dinner. He thinks his chances of reducing it to a misdemeanor are good. Wasn't a good week last week.
1049 | Ojoe Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:42:45am |
Obama's budget director calls the economy "fundamentally ... weak."
You fucking moron you are supposed to say that we're at a rough spot and we will get over it, fuck you and the president you rode in on.
Sorry for the language, lizards.
1050 | jcm Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:43:46am |
re: #1047 SurferDoc
Greetings from the lovely, windswept Mojave Desert.
Are we still a Republic?
The 1st and 2nd Amendments are still intact......
1051 | Ojoe Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:44:30am |
re: #1010 Iron Fist
Tell a leftie that MLK was an R and watch the smoke come out their ears.
1052 | Caboose Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:44:31am |
"Words have no meaning; people have meanings for words."
1053 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:13am |
re: #1043 Amer-I-Can
Is Sandia dry as well? We could always count on the run off once the melt started. I haven't been back to that area in 10 years or so.
It has always been fun trying to explain the concept of "high desert" to the uninitiated.
the Sandias and Monzanos got virtually no snow this year...last year there was still snow on Sandia west face in April!....but I look over at Mt Taylor and it's had good snow all season...I always worry about that maountain because it is heavily forrested and remote...if it catches fire over there it will be very difficult to deal with...NM is spooky like that...fire is evil bro
1054 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:14am |
re: #1031 MandyManners
Why are those attorneys writing to you since you're not the client?
He must still be listed as living at home somewhere, or at least that's all I could figure out. Believe me, it wasn't me.
1055 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:21am |
re: #1041 Diamond Bullet
sporadic Hamas rockets
So every day is 'sporadic'?
Israel has the right to hit back when attacked
how nice of him to concede this point. /
I have never previously felt so shamed by Israel’s actions.
And I have never previously felt so shamed by the Americam media's actions.
What an idiot.
1056 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:40am |
re: #1054 turn
And I was thinking the mailman must have surely thought it was me.
1057 | scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:42am |
re: #1049 Ojoe
Obama's budget director calls the economy "fundamentally ... weak."
You fucking moron you are supposed to say that we're at a rough spot and we will get over it, fuck you and the president you rode in on.
Sorry for the language, lizards.
No worries. Times like these that can make potty-mouths of us all. ;>)
1058 | Creeping Eruption Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:46:29am |
re: #1041 Diamond Bullet
One of the most odious NY Times articles I've ever read (and they give themselves fierce competition):
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
I can't even tell if it's self-parody. Who honestly thinks this:
Sadly, its not parody. People feel very strongly when Jews have the temerity to hit back. Didn't you know that Jews are just supposed to line up like lambs to the slaughter?
/
1059 | jcm Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:47:30am |
re: #1049 Ojoe
Obama's budget director calls the economy "fundamentally ... weak."
You fucking moron you are supposed to say that we're at a rough spot and we will get over it, fuck you and the president you rode in on.
Sorry for the language, lizards.
re: #1049 Ojoe
Obama's budget director calls the economy "fundamentally ... weak."
You fucking moron you are supposed to say that we're at a rough spot and we will get over it, fuck you and the president you rode in on.
Sorry for the language, lizards.
Peter Orszag does not understand what constitutes the fundamental economy. The bedrock is the brains, labor and sweat of the workforce. That has not changed. What has changed is the confidence of those who can invest and drive the economy forward. They don't have confidence that government will allow a return on their investment.
1060 | Golem Akbar Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:47:30am |
re: #1049 Ojoe
Obama's budget director calls the economy "fundamentally ... weak."
You fucking moron you are supposed to say that we're at a rough spot and we will get over it, fuck you and the president you rode in on.
Sorry for the language, lizards.
Take a chillpill. [/me, I'm practicing trying to stay calm in the midst of despair]
1061 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:47:34am |
re: #1039 yma o hyd
Before I read that link I had no idea things had gotten that bad in Sweden.
1062 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:19am |
re: #1048 turn
Oh sorry, my oldest son got a DUI last week. He's a good kid, generally very responsible, and this was his first run in with the law. He blew a 0.09% and the limit is 0.08%. He thought he was fine, just had a couple of beers with clients over dinner. He thinks his chances of reducing it to a misdemeanor are good. Wasn't a good week last week.
He might want to ask his attorney about getting it dismissed with pre-trial diversion if that's possible in his state.
1063 | yma o hyd Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:30am |
re: #1049 Ojoe
Obama's budget director calls the economy "fundamentally ... weak."
You fucking moron you are supposed to say that we're at a rough spot and we will get over it, fuck you and the president you rode in on.
Sorry for the language, lizards.
From that link:
'Orszag also pleaded for patience as the 6-week-old administration looks for solutions: "Well, I think fundamentally, the economy is weak. Job losses began in January of 2008. The stock market started declining October 2007. This has been, you know, eight years in the making, and again, it's going to take some time to work our way out of it." '
Yep - its all the fault of Bush, and PB0 will need four terms in office to put it right ...
/////
1064 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:50am |
I've been using the "f" word a lot more here lately.
Better than the "0" word, I guess.
1065 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:54am |
re: #1054 turn
He must still be listed as living at home somewhere, or at least that's all I could figure out. Believe me, it wasn't me.
I hope you know not to open those letters.
1067 | Creeping Eruption Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:49:08am |
re: #1061 turn
Before I read that link I had no idea things had gotten that bad in Sweden.
and here I drive a fucking Saab: Morally and financially bankrupt. Great - a two-fer!
1068 | Desert Dog Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:49:34am |
Books? I have no problem with books. I just burn the ones I disagree with....no problem.
/
1069 | Golem Akbar Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:21am |
re: #1063 yma o hyd
From that link:
'Orszag also pleaded for patience as the 6-week-old administration looks for solutions: "Well, I think fundamentally, the economy is weak. Job losses began in January of 2008. The stock market started declining October 2007. This has been, you know, eight years in the making, and again, it's going to take some time to work our way out of it." '
Yep - its all the fault of Bush, and PB0 will need four terms in office to put it right ...
/////
What happened to the coup Bush was going to make and become Ruler For Life? The left said it was going to happen, and I of course believe them. (///)
1070 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:40am |
re: #1054 turn
He must still be listed as living at home somewhere, or at least that's all I could figure out. Believe me, it wasn't me.
I didn't mean to be a snot in my No. 1065 but, client/attorney confidentiality was hammered into me during paralegal school and, I was fanatical about it during my divorce.
1071 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:43am |
re: #1068 Desert Dog
Books? I have no problem with books. I just burn the ones I disagree with....no problem.
/
Evil Ink Books...kill 'em all!
1072 | subsailor68 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:49am |
Morning all!
Interesting little piece:
Pentagon: Chinese vessels harassed Navy ship
Impeccable's mission is "to directly support the Navy by using both passive and active low frequency sonar arrays to detect and track undersea threats." (from Wiki).
Hmm...I wonder if the five Chinese vessels were trying distract her while one of their subs transited the area?
Here's a picture of her: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
From that same Wiki article, it took NINE years to get from keel being laid to delivery to the Navy. Far too long. Hell, we went from keel to commissioning of our nuclear attack sub in 4 years!
1073 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:51am |
re: #999 Ford_Prefect
"Did I mention that I share a birthday with Mark twain? Of course he is younger than me."
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
1074 | rawmuse Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:01am |
Good morning Lizards. I just now found out that you can join or merge multiple pdf docs in Preview for the mac OSX 10.5. I don't have to spend $699 for Acrobat Pro.
It's the little things that get me excited anymore.
1075 | VegasRick Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:09am |
Here we go, Zero speaks and the DJIA starts dropping. STFU and STFD you asshole!
1076 | Golem Akbar Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:20am |
1077 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:25am |
re: #1062 MandyManners
He might want to ask his attorney about getting it dismissed with pre-trial diversion if that's possible in his state.
He did, and good news is 90% of the time they offer the plea rather than go to trial. Turns out he went to school with the son of the attorney he chose and turnspawn2 goes to school with his other son. So I think there is a good Jesuit connection there. Fees are $1000 all in unless it goes to trial then ca-ching!
1078 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:52:04am |
re: #1065 MandyManners
I hope you know not to open those letters.
I'm giving them to him, but why not?
1080 | UberInfidel67 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:52:51am |
The O is now on Fox bragging about stem cell research.
1082 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:53:47am |
1083 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:53:56am |
re: #1070 MandyManners
I didn't mean to be a snot in my No. 1065 but, client/attorney confidentiality was hammered into me during paralegal school and, I was fanatical about it during my divorce.
What confidentiality? Surely there is public record he got nailed. No offense taken.
1084 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:53:58am |
re: #1073 realwest
"Did I mention that I share a birthday with Mark twain? Of course he is younger than me."
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
Thanks. Looking at those guys made me feel much younger.
1086 | UberInfidel67 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:54:23am |
Could they use aborted babies as stem cell factories? Is that legal? Ethical? WTF?
He is saying that the research will NOT be used for cloning though. Gee, good thing we can trust him/
1087 | Honorary Yooper Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:54:36am |
re: #1080 UberInfidel67
The O is now on Fox bragging about stem cell research.
He's an idiot. He's spending more time and attention to this crappola than to what really counts right now; fixing the economy. Obama is Herbert Hoover all over again, but without Hoover's redeeming qualities.
1088 | phoenixgirl Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:54:55am |
i guess he didn't get the memo that stem cells from alive, walking around living beings work and the ones from the "left over" embryos not so much. science over morals.
1090 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:55:30am |
re: #1072 subsailor68
It's called red tape, and with O's plans for this country that takes on a whole new meaning.
1092 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:55:48am |
re: #1028 soxfan4life
Although I never met him, I miss Chance Phelps.
Yup, let's you know what kind of young people that we produce.
It is a very touching movie.
1093 | Honorary Yooper Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:55:56am |
re: #1088 phoenixgirl
i guess he didn't get the memo that stem cells from alive, walking around living beings work and the ones from the "left over" embryos not so much. science over morals.
With Barack, it's all about the ideology. Science and morals be damned for him.
1094 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:56:23am |
re: #1073 realwest
"Did I mention that I share a birthday with Mark twain? Of course he is younger than me."
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
cool vid...thanks for that dude
1095 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:56:34am |
re: #1083 turn
What confidentiality? Surely there is public record he got nailed. No offense taken.
Communication between the client and his attorney confidentiality is NOT a matter of public record. I'm very serious about this.
1096 | nyc redneck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:56:53am |
re: #1088 phoenixgirl
i guess he didn't get the memo that stem cells from alive, walking around living beings work and the ones from the "left over" embryos not so much. science over morals.
commies have no morals.
1097 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:06am |
re: #1080 UberInfidel67
The O is now on Fox bragging about stem cell research.
And the DOW just took a downturn after being slightly up. Guy is the Kiss "O" Death.
1098 | Golem Akbar Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:21am |
re: #1087 Honorary Yooper
He's an idiot. He's spending more time and attention to this crappola than to what really counts right now; fixing the economy. Obama is Herbert Hoover all over again, but without Hoover's redeeming qualities.
I liken him more to Jimmy Carter, but , to each his own (simile).
1099 | JimmyTheClaw Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:32am |
A manager at Wal-Mart had the
task of hiring someone to fill a job opening. After
sorting through a stack of resumes he found four people
who were equally qualified. He decided to call the four in
and ask them only one question. Their answer would
determine which of them would get the job.
The day came and as the four sat around the conference room table, the interviewer asked, 'What is the fastest thing you know of?'
The first man replied, 'A THOUGHT.' It just
pops into your head. There's no warning.
'That's very good!' replied the interviewer. 'And, now you sir?', he asked the second man.
'Hmmm....let me see 'A blink! It comes and goes and you don't know that it ever happened. A BLINK is the fastest thing I know of.'
'Excellent!' said the interviewer. 'The blink of
an eye, that's a very popular cliche for speed.' He then
turned to the third man, who was contemplating his
reply.
'Well, out at my dad's ranch, you step out of the house and on the wall there's a light switch. When you flip that
switch, way out across the pasture the light on the barn
comes on in less than an instant. 'Yep, TURNING ON A LIGHT is the fastest thing I can think of'.
The interviewer was very impressed with the third answer and thought he had found his man. 'It 's hard to beat the speed of light,' he said.
Turning to BUBBA, the fourth and final man,
the interviewer posed the same question.
Old Bubba replied, 'After hearing the previous three answers, it's obvious to me that the fastest thing known is DIARRHEA.'
'WHAT!?' said the interviewer, stunned
by the response.
'Oh sure', said BUBBA. 'You see,
the other day I wasn't feeling so good, and I ran for the
bathroom, but before I could THINK, BLINK, or TURN ON THE LIGHT, I had already pooped my pants.'
BUBBA is now the new greeter at a Wal-Mart near you!
You probably will think of this every time you enter a
Wal-Mart from now on!
1100 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:39am |
re: #1092 opnion
Yup, let's you know what kind of young people that we produce.
It is a very touching movie.
The fact that I was priveledged enough to train and lead young men and women like him is one of the greatest highlights of my life.
1101 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:45am |
re: #1014 Kenneth
Oh those won't be the words, my friend, the words will be "Obama screwed up so badly what with a Democratic Congress and a mandate from the voters" - they won't be afraid to go after him and when payback comes from the MSM it's gonna be a bitch.
1102 | Kosh's Shadow Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:47am |
re: #1069 Golem Akbar
What happened to the coup Bush was going to make and become Ruler For Life? The left said it was going to happen, and I of course believe them. (///)
I'm afraid 0bama will try it.
1103 | badger1970 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:58am |
re: #1077 turn
He did, and good news is 90% of the time they offer the plea rather than go to trial. Turns out he went to school with the son of the attorney he chose and turnspawn2 goes to school with his other son. So I think there is a good Jesuit connection there. Fees are $1000 all in unless it goes to trial then ca-ching!
In Texas, there are more fees and extras such as a $1000/year license for three years, mandatory weekend "Life Steps" classes, "donations" to Crime Stoppers and Air Life EMS services, probation fees and a night with hypocritical MADD oh and community service.
1104 | UberInfidel67 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:58:14am |
re: #1093 Honorary Yooper
Funny you should day that! He claims American science will be led by actual science and not ideology. God I hate this man and what he is.
1105 | Amer-I-Can Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:58:33am |
re: #1053 albusteve
I hear ya! I used to take my kids to the peak by going up through Placitas and then taking the forest loop around the east side of the peak. You could see where "small" fires had caught and swept a couple hundred to maybe a thousand acres. I'd hate to see it catch if it is so dry, the winds would make it deadly.
1106 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:59:02am |
re: #1097 Wyatt Earp
And the DOW just took a downturn after being slightly up. Guy is the Kiss "O" Death.
At this point I don't think he even needs to speak. Wall Street just needs to hear that he might stick his head out and look around and the DOW drops.
1107 | lurking faith Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:59:37am |
re: #999 Ford_Prefect
Did you know that you also share your birthday with Winston Churchill, in that case?
Nice company.
1108 | UberInfidel67 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:59:41am |
"Thank you bery much my friends, let's go sign this thing."
1109 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:00am |
re: #1086 UberInfidel67
Could they use aborted babies as stem cell factories? Is that legal? Ethical? WTF?
He is saying that the research will NOT be used for cloning though. Gee, good thing we can trust him/
This whole "lifting Bush's ban" is a whole lot of to do about nothing. The science has since progressed to the point that adult cells can be coaxed into just about anything, no need for embryos. The the MSM portrays the situation as "potentially opening up the possibilitiy of all these cures" when they aren't actually referring to the lifting but the technology itself. spit
1110 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:20am |
re: #1029 Ford_Prefect
Just perfect Ford! I've reported that in the (probably vain) hope that Charles will use that as an introduction to a thread on the Nanny State steamrolling our way.
1111 | Creeping Eruption Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:24am |
re: #1095 MandyManners
Communication between the client and his attorney confidentiality is NOT a matter of public record. I'm very serious about this.
I think all the mail they got were probably advertisements. Most firms that handle this kind of work (and personal injury) have someone who culls through the police records for the week and finds the dui's auto accidents, etc., and send out mailings. Happens when I get speeding tickets too.
1112 | Wyatt Earp Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:43am |
re: #1106 Ford_Prefect
At this point I don't think he even needs to speak. Wall Street just needs to hear that he might stick his head out and look around and the DOW drops.
His voice strikes fear into the hearts of traders. It's a shame it doesn't strike fear into the hearts of our enemies.
1113 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:47am |
re: #1095 MandyManners
Communication between the client and his attorney
confidentialityis NOT a matter of public record. I'm very serious about this.
*sigh*
1114 | Amer-I-Can Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:54am |
re: #1064 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I've been using the "f" word a lot more here lately.
Better than the "0" word, I guess.
They've become kinda one and the same. I have a hard time using "The One" without the other.
1115 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:01:07am |
re: #1086 UberInfidel67
China leads the world in stem cell research because they use aborted fetuses for raw material.
1116 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:01:10am |
re: #1088 phoenixgirl
i guess he didn't get the memo that stem cells from alive, walking around living beings work and the ones from the "left over" embryos not so much. science over morals.
Exactly! Morning phoenixgirl. Any rain headed that way?
1117 | Killer Tomato Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:04am |
NEW YORK (AP) -- The New York Times Co. said Monday it gained more financial flexibility by selling 21 floors of its headquarters building in midtown Manhattan for $225 million. The newspaper will lease back the space from the buyer, investment firm W.P. Carey & Co., under a 15-year contract. Times shares jumped 21 cents, 5.2 percent, to $4.28 in morning trading.
1118 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:07am |
re: #1091 phoenixgirl
more like agenda over common sense
An agenda that forever includes making Bush out as the bad guy.
1119 | gymmom Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:16am |
re: #1115 Kenneth
China leads the world in stem cell research because they use aborted fetuses for raw material.
But there have been no proven benefits from Embryonic stem cells, only Adult stem cells
1120 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:28am |
re: #1114 Amer-I-Can
They've become kinda one and the same. I have a hard time using "The One" without the other.
Much like the whole i before e thing f before o hopefully it catches on.
1121 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:35am |
re: #1111 Creeping Eruption
I think all the mail they got were probably advertisements. Most firms that handle this kind of work (and personal injury) have someone who culls through the police records for the week and finds the dui's auto accidents, etc., and send out mailings. Happens when I get speeding tickets too.
*jaw drop*
1122 | UberInfidel67 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:53am |
re: #1115 Kenneth
A "why waste the material" kind of thing, huh? My God!
1123 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:56am |
re: #1107 lurking faith
Did you know that you also share your birthday with Winston Churchill, in that case?
Nice company.
I had forgotten that. Thanks for reminding me.
1124 | Nevergiveup Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:02am |
I was busy all weekend. Did anybody flame out? Any hot controversies?
1125 | Creeping Eruption Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:02am |
1126 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:06am |
re: #1105 Amer-I-Can
I hear ya! I used to take my kids to the peak by going up through Placitas and then taking the forest loop around the east side of the peak. You could see where "small" fires had caught and swept a couple hundred to maybe a thousand acres. I'd hate to see it catch if it is so dry, the winds would make it deadly.
I was up that road last week!...the baskside of Sandia is fairly accessable...but it takes over a lifetime to grow another forrest after a fire...two lifetimes really
1127 | CIA Reject Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:33am |
re: #1114 Amer-I-Can
They've become kinda one and the same. I have a hard time using "The One" without the other.
Visitors to Casa Reject these days often leave with the impression that Mrs. Reject and myself believe the President's first name to be "That Idiot".
1128 | phoenixgirl Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:35am |
re: #1116 turn
Exactly! Morning phoenixgirl. Any rain headed that way?
looks sunny out the window my little weather icon shows rain though. we could use it but the kids are out this week and i'd prefer them outside rather than in!
1129 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:00am |
re: #1039 yma o hyd
Good morning {yma} : "Where are all the Swedes who love humanity?
Are they now all Jew Haters?"
Yes, that is how it certainly appears - and right now I'm quite certain that Raoul Wallenberg is spinning in his grave.
1130 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:14am |
re: #1095 MandyManners
Communication between the client and his attorney confidentiality is NOT a matter of public record. I'm very serious about this.
These letter were essentially junk mail IMO, no confidentiality at all. Oh maybe you mean me opening up his mail, never done that. I know you're serious so I better leave it at that.
1131 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:22am |
re: #1112 Wyatt Earp
His voice strikes fear into the hearts of traders. It's a shame it doesn't strike fear into the hearts of our enemies.
Didn't you know? The traders are our enemies!
///
1132 | lurking faith Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:32am |
re: #1007 albusteve
Getting one of your 8 annual inches of precip? I didn't think it was monsoon season yet.
Climate chaos!
///
1133 | outsidephilly Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:05:27am |
re: #1109 turn
This whole "lifting Bush's ban" is a whole lot of to do about nothing. The science has since progressed to the point that adult cells can be coaxed into just about anything, no need for embryos. The the MSM portrays the situation as "potentially opening up the possibilitiy of all these cures" when they aren't actually referring to the lifting but the technology itself. spit
You're exactly right!
1134 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:05:50am |
re: #1086 UberInfidel67
Could they use aborted babies as stem cell factories? Is that legal? Ethical? WTF?
He is saying that the research will NOT be used for cloning though. Gee, good thing we can trust him/
No, embryonic stem cells come from donated embryo's left over from invetro fertilizations that would be normally be discarded.
1135 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:20am |
re: #1103 badger1970
I'll have to ask him what other "punishment" he's looking at here in CA. I didn't mean to diminish the seriousness of this.
1136 | outsidephilly Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:22am |
re: #1119 gymmom
But there have been no proven benefits from Embryonic stem cells, only Adult stem cells
I'd like to give you a gazillion up-dings!
1137 | MJ Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:55am |
re: #1129 realwest
Good morning {yma} : "Where are all the Swedes who love humanity?
Are they now all Jew Haters?"
Yes, that is how it certainly appears - and right now I'm quite certain that Raoul Wallenberg is spinning in his grave.
There's a new book available for downloaded free on the Nordic countries relations with Israel and Jews. It's quite good.
[Link: www.jcpa.org...]
1138 | yma o hyd Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:07am |
Here's something to gladden all your hearts on this grey Monday:
Terrier close to extinction charms Crufts to win Best in Show
That terrier is acitizen of the USA - he lives in Pennsylvania ...
Now all say 'aaaahhhhh!'
:-)
1139 | scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:14am |
re: #1107 lurking faith
Did you know that you also share your birthday with Winston Churchill, in that case?
Nice company.
I share a birthday with Bill Clinton...aren't I lucky?
1140 | lurking faith Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:59am |
re: #1131 Ford_Prefect
Didn't you know? The traders are our enemies!
///
We have met the enemy, and he is us.
- Pogo
1141 | gymmom Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:04am |
re: #1109 turn
And the ban was only on federally funded research. Anyone who thought they could come up with a cure using embryonic stem cells and become rich and famous was free to fund their own research.
1142 | subsailor68 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:17am |
re: #1139 scottishbuzzsaw
I share a birthday with Bill Clinton...aren't I lucky?
Well, my birthday is the day Hitler offed himself. I AM lucky!
;-)
1143 | albusteve Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:18am |
re: #1139 scottishbuzzsaw
I share a birthday with Bill Clinton...aren't I lucky?
My birthday buddie is Howlin' Wolf....heh
1145 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:58am |
re: #1125 Creeping Eruption
You didn't know that?
Other than the attorneys who taught paralegal school, the only attorneys I've dealt with was the family-law attorney with whom I interned and the family-law attorneys I retained for my divorce.
1146 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:10am |
re: #1111 Creeping Eruption
I think all the mail they got were probably advertisements. Most firms that handle this kind of work (and personal injury) have someone who culls through the police records for the week and finds the dui's auto accidents, etc., and send out mailings. Happens when I get speeding tickets too.
CE, we never (well almost never) get attorney advertisement - no this was from the DUI. The envelopes were marked 502, etc.
1147 | lawhawk Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:11am |
re: #1136 outsidephilly
I'd like to give you a gazillion up-dings!
I'd further point out that President Bush was the first president to actually set aside federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. He had moral and ethical concerns, which is why he limited it to only a specific number of stem cell lines. Adult stem cell research was unaffected by those limitations.
Obama is lifting the Bush era limits on embryonic stem cell research lines, but it was NEVER a ban on federal embryonic stem cell research funding, which is how the media has been portraying it.
It's all clever nonsense, and it further shows how deep in the tank the media is for Obama. Also, Obama is using this to further obscure his goals and intentions on other areas of the budget - because where exactly is the money going to come from for this and everything else on his agenda?
1148 | jcm Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:36am |
re: #1141 gymmom
And the ban was only on federally funded research. Anyone who thought they could come up with a cure using embryonic stem cells and become rich and famous was free to fund their own research.
The Evil George Bush denied Christopher Reeve a cure!
That's the MSM story, why bother with boring scientific facts?
1149 | opnion Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:45am |
re: #1093 Honorary Yooper
With Barack, it's all about the ideology. Science and morals be damned for him.
The guy supported Infanticide, denying medical care to the survivors of botched aborions!
1150 | scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:34am |
re: #1138 yma o hyd
Here's something to gladden all your hearts on this grey Monday:
Terrier close to extinction charms Crufts to win Best in Show
That terrier is acitizen of the USA - he lives in Pennsylvania ...
Now all say 'aaaahhhhh!'
:-)
Oh what a cutie...Charmin’s squeezably soft, too! (or was that a toilet paper?)
1151 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:47am |
re: #1084 Ford_Prefect
HEY! I'm their age - give or take a year or so! LOL!
Nah, I just love that song and to see and hear so many TRULY great musicians paying tribute to the best songwriter of the last 2-3 generations just sends chills up my spine and puts a HUGE SMILE on my face.
In fact, I'm gonna link it again: [Link: www.imeem.com...]
1152 | lawhawk Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:51am |
re: #1141 gymmom
And the ban was only on federally funded research. Anyone who thought they could come up with a cure using embryonic stem cells and become rich and famous was free to fund their own research.
It wasn't a ban. It was a limitation on stem cell lines. Scientists were limited to a specific number of embryonic stem cell lines eligible for federal funding. Federal funding was provided, but the anti-Bush folks want to believe it was a total ban. It wasn't. It never was.
1153 | yma o hyd Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:57am |
re: #1129 realwest
Good morning {yma} : "Where are all the Swedes who love humanity?
Are they now all Jew Haters?"
Yes, that is how it certainly appears - and right now I'm quite certain that Raoul Wallenberg is spinning in his grave.
Hiya, {rw}!
Yes - he must be, surely!
I think 90% of Swedes nowadays have no idea who he was, never mind what he actually did.
1154 | Ward Cleaver Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:04am |
re: #1148 jcm
The Evil George Bush denied Christopher Reeve a cure!
That's the MSM story, why bother with boring scientific facts?
That's okay, Kerry and Edwards can raise him from the grave.
1155 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:13am |
re: #1128 phoenixgirl
Someone from ABQ said they're getting rain upthread. Too lazy to get out the map, probably a good distance from you.
1156 | UberInfidel67 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:18am |
re: #1148 jcm
Oh yeah, he did invoke Christopher Reed during his speil.
1157 | Ford_Prefect Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:20am |
Mark Twain on Congress:
"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."
"All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity."
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress."
"...I never can think of Judas Iscariot without losing my temper. To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature, Congressman."
1158 | Onslow Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:30am |
This will surely go over well:
Florida lawmakers ask: Can we tap prepaid college tuition fund?
1159 | Creeping Eruption Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:12:11am |
re: #1145 MandyManners
Other than the attorneys who taught paralegal school, the only attorneys I've dealt with was the family-law attorney with whom I interned and the family-law attorneys I retained for my divorce.
re: #1146 turn
CE, we never (well almost never) get attorney advertisement - no this was from the DUI. The envelopes were marked 502, etc.
Both of you are lucky (as far as not having to discard more junk mail). It is a jurisdictional thing I believe. Each State or State Bar through the rules governing Attorney conduct set rules on advertising. Here in Wisconsin, general mailings from attorneys after an event reported to the police are pretty common.
1160 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:12:27am |
re: #1147 lawhawk
I'd further point out that President Bush was the first president to actually set aside federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. He had moral and ethical concerns, which is why he limited it to only a specific number of stem cell lines. Adult stem cell research was unaffected by those limitations.
Obama is lifting the Bush era limits on embryonic stem cell research lines, but it was NEVER a ban on federal embryonic stem cell research funding, which is how the media has been portraying it.
It's all clever nonsense, and it further shows how deep in the tank the media is for Obama. Also, Obama is using this to further obscure his goals and intentions on other areas of the budget - because where exactly is the money going to come from for this and everything else on his agenda?
exactly. How many jobs will be created by this federally funded crap sandwich.
1162 | Nevergiveup Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:22am |
Obama calls cloning 'dangerous, profoundly wrong'
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
He said he would ensure that the government never opens the door to the use of cloning for human reproduction.
Hum. didn't the "Government" create Fannie May and Freddie Mac to insure that there would never be a mortgage crisis?
1163 | outsidephilly Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:28am |
re: #1141 gymmom
And the ban was only on federally funded research. Anyone who thought they could come up with a cure using embryonic stem cells and become rich and famous was free to fund their own research.
I'm involved with a group that raises our own money to expand our stem cell research! The research is directed by the wise staff within this organization!
1164 | soxfan4life Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:48am |
re: #1154 Ward Cleaver
That's okay, Kerry and Edwards can raise him from the grave.
Check the Cook County register, might have already been done.
1165 | yma o hyd Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:07am |
re: #1150 scottishbuzzsaw
Oh what a cutie...Charmin’s squeezably soft, too! (or was that a toilet paper?)
Hiya, {scotti}!
Yes, to both!
:-)))
1166 | Nevergiveup Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:09am |
re: #1156 UberInfidel67
Oh yeah, he did invoke Christopher Reed during his speil.
Why should he. isn't Obama superman. Oh sorry that's the Messiah. Never mind.
1167 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:37am |
re: #1115 Kenneth
China leads the world in stem cell research because they use aborted fetuses for raw material.
That may be true, although I did not check, but that has nothing to do with the order BHO signed today. Specifically, embryonic stem cells are removed from the inner cell mass of a 5-7 day embryo known as a blastocyst. Anything older than that are the not embryonic stem cells that we are discussing.
1168 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:38am |
re: #1133 outsidephilly
Hey, even a blind squirrel get an acorn one in a while :.) YOu know what makes me sick is tha CA passed a gazzilion dollarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
1169 | UberInfidel67 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:15:06am |
re: #1161 jcm
Oh yes he did! I wonder if he has ever had an original thought of his own. Ya think? NAAAAHHHHHH! Now the Obamatrons will see him as the One who could have saved Superman...but BushHitler let him die!
1171 | subsailor68 Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:15:27am |
re: #1158 Onslow
This will surely go over well:
Florida lawmakers ask: Can we tap prepaid college tuition fund?
Insanity! But then again, they probably got the idea from Congress - after all, they've been raiding Social Security for years. And years. And years.
1172 | outsidephilly Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:15:43am |
re: #1147 lawhawk
I'd further point out that President Bush was the first president to actually set aside federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. He had moral and ethical concerns, which is why he limited it to only a specific number of stem cell lines. Adult stem cell research was unaffected by those limitations.
Obama is lifting the Bush era limits on embryonic stem cell research lines, but it was NEVER a ban on federal embryonic stem cell research funding, which is how the media has been portraying it.
It's all clever nonsense, and it further shows how deep in the tank the media is for Obama. Also, Obama is using this to further obscure his goals and intentions on other areas of the budget - because where exactly is the money going to come from for this and everything else on his agenda?
When I speak with others, pointing out the very facts you mentioned, I get a blank stare from them!
1173 | Buck Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:15:52am |
re: #37 BlueCanuck
Perfect. I will be spreading that around to a few of my friends. Maybe they will understand a bit more about who and what I am. Had to explain to someone the other day why it was bad ettiquete to ask a soldier if they have ever killed anyone.
I don't know, it was kinda funny when Mitch asked Curly...
Mitch: Hi, Curly. Kill anyone today?
Curly: Day ain't over yet.
1174 | outsidephilly Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:16:49am |
re: #1160 soxfan4life
exactly. How many jobs will be created by this federally funded crap sandwich.
exactly!
1175 | scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:17:37am |
re: #1157 Ford_Prefect
Mark Twain on Congress:
"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."
"All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity."
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress."
"...I never can think of Judas Iscariot without losing my temper. To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature, Congressman."
And because some of us are swearing more that is our norm during these stressful times, here's another quote:
Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.
~Mark Twain
1176 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:17:39am |
re: #1137 MJ Hey Thanks a lot MJ! Its true, I'm afraid, that one of the Jews best friends during the time of the Nazi's - RAOUL WALLENBERG - was Swedish and then this shit happens in his homeland. It's absolutely unacceptable and unbelievable that the Swedes have sunk to such depths of depravity.
1177 | Athos Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:17:40am |
re: #1147 lawhawk
Also, Obama is using this to further obscure his goals and intentions on other areas of the budget - because where exactly is the money going to come from for this and everything else on his agenda?
The ugly secret is that those of us who pay taxes, pretty much regardless of income level, are facing massive tax increases in order to partially fund his unprecedented expansion of the federal government. As has been proved in all other socialistic states, rather than rise those in poverty to the level of the 'rich', the end effect would be to lower the upper and middle classes establishing a new 'common denominator' of wealth which would be lower than today's present median income level. Furthermore, we would be locked into a central bureaucracy for virtually everything. 10% unemployment rates, 20-25% of those employed being government employees will become the norm....and innovation will be regulated out of existence.
1178 | debutaunt Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:18:23am |
re: #1158 Onslow
This will surely go over well:
Florida lawmakers ask: Can we tap prepaid college tuition fund?
The government funds itself with whatever the hell it can get its grubby hands on.
1179 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:18:51am |
re: #1141 gymmom
And the ban was only on federally funded research. Anyone who thought they could come up with a cure using embryonic stem cells and become rich and famous was free to fund their own research.
I was building up to that point in my 1168 when my friggin wireless keyboard died. CA spend gazillions when it wasn't even necessary!
1180 | realwest Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:19:57am |
re: #1153 yma o hyd
Yes, you're right about that - he was a true humanitarian who probably lost his life because of his aiding the Jews during the Holocaust. I once represented his brother - maybe 20 years or so ago and remember his saying that his brother (who was considerably older) was simply doing what all Swedes would have done in his place.
Wonder what HE thinks of this disgrace.
1181 | fish Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:06am |
re: #1152 lawhawk
It wasn't a ban. It was a limitation on stem cell lines. Scientists were limited to a specific number of embryonic stem cell lines eligible for federal funding. Federal funding was provided, but the anti-Bush folks want to believe it was a total ban. It wasn't. It never was.
This point cannot be made often enough. I am about to wretch hearing about how "Science can now move forward because of the benevolence and forward thinking of Obama" (Paraphrased)
Reversing Bush's stem cell policy would actually mean cutting funds...
1182 | Amer-I-Can Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:24am |
re: #1126 albusteve
How do we send messages back and forth through the board? I have a picture I want to show you... you will appreciate it.
1183 | MandyManners Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:31am |
re: #1130 turn
These letter were essentially junk mail IMO, no confidentiality at all. Oh maybe you mean me opening up his mail, never done that. I know you're serious so I better leave it at that.
Creeping Eruption clued me in about the standard practice in No. 1025.
1184 | turn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:51am |
re: #1162 Nevergiveup
Obama calls cloning 'dangerous, profoundly wrong
Well in the case of him, I completely agree.
1185 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:58am |
re: #1152 lawhawk
It wasn't a ban. It was a limitation on stem cell lines. Scientists were limited to a specific number of embryonic stem cell lines eligible for federal funding. Federal funding was provided, but the anti-Bush folks want to believe it was a total ban. It wasn't. It never was.
It was effectively a ban since it was limited to existing lines, not enough good ones to do the research. We trail the world in the stem cell science because of the religious opposition to the research. I never understood the pro life position that the embryo's should be discarded rather then be used to possibly save or improve lives.
1187 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:26:49am |
re: #1167 avanti
My comment was not about Obama's announcement. It was about China.
1189 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:29:48am |
re: #1185 avanti
I never understood the pro life position that the embryo's should be discarded rather then be used to possibly save or improve lives.
Waste not want not!
For your edification: the pro-life position is that human embryos should not be used in this manner at all. It's all part of that "life is sacred" concept liberals & leftists have a hard time comprehending.
1190 | outsidephilly Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:31:58am |
re: #1189 Kenneth
Waste not want not!
For your edification: the pro-life position is that human embryos should not be used in this manner at all. It's all part of that "life is sacred" concept liberals & leftists have a hard time comprehending.
((Kenneth))
Its words like this that remind me why I really like you!
1191 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:32:11am |
re: #1187 Kenneth
OK, and you bring up a good point. We do have moral imits on what we'll do, and that is a good thing. I expect other countries will do some outrageous human cloning in the near future.
1192 | Athos Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:34:12am |
re: #1185 avanti
It was effectively a ban since it was limited to existing lines, not enough good ones to do the research. We trail the world in the stem cell science because of the religious opposition to the research. I never understood the pro life position that the embryo's should be discarded rather then be used to possibly save or improve lives.
What a canard. There were plenty of federally funded lines for companies to use for research - the primary reason they were not used is that results from adult stem cells and umbilical stem cells research generated far better results. Furthermore, there was nothing preventing researchers from using non-Federal dollars or embryonic stem cell lines for their research. The focus on investing into R&D is in the path that will generate the best results sooner rather than later.
This kerfuffle is just another case of a socio-political agenda that is attempted to be implemented masked around a perceived benefit.
1193 | lawhawk Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:39:44am |
re: #1185 avanti
It was effectively a ban since it was limited to existing lines, not enough good ones to do the research. We trail the world in the stem cell science because of the religious opposition to the research. I never understood the pro life position that the embryo's should be discarded rather then be used to possibly save or improve lives.
Nonsense. We do not trail the world on stem cell research because it isn't confined to embryonic stem cells, but adult stem cell research is open to anyone with a checkbook. Heck, embryonic stem cell research can go on in the US regardless of federal funding - if you want to pony up the $$$ yourself to carry out that research. The limitations were only on federal funding - the private sector was free to carry out the research so long as they adhered to the federal requirements if they wanted federal funding.
1194 | jcm Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:40:19am |
re: #1169 UberInfidel67
Oh yes he did! I wonder if he has ever had an original thought of his own. Ya think? NAAAAHHHHHH! Now the Obamatrons will see him as the One who could have saved Superman...but BushHitler let him die!
*THUD*
1195 | outsidephilly Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:44:50am |
re: #1185 avanti
It was effectively a ban since it was limited to existing lines, not enough good ones to do the research. We trail the world in the stem cell science because of the religious opposition to the research. I never understood the pro life position that the embryo's should be discarded rather then be used to possibly save or improve lives.
We do not trail the world on stem cell research it is open to anyone with a enough money to fund such research!
And I'll quote lawhawk: ". . . , The limitations were only on federal funding - the private sector was free to carry out the research so long as they adhered to the federal requirements if they wanted federal funding."
1196 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:45:50am |
re: #1189 Kenneth
Waste not want not!
For your edification: the pro-life position is that human embryos should not be used in this manner at all. It's all part of that "life is sacred" concept liberals & leftists have a hard time comprehending.
I get the concept, but week old embryo's are at best, potential life, if and when they are implanted. If you believe that invetro fertilization is immoral, and no embryo's should be produced in the lab, then I might see your position, but if they are, and are being discarded, I don't follow the logic.
If life is sacred, why is using a scheduled to be destroyed embryo to potentially save a human life wrong. Why is it more pro life to trash them ?
1197 | avanti Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:53:24am |
re: #1195 outsidephilly
We do not trail the world on stem cell research it is open to anyone with a enough money to fund such research!
And I'll quote lawhawk: ". . . , The limitations were only on federal funding - the private sector was free to carry out the research so long as they adhered to the federal requirements if they wanted federal funding."
The religiously inspired extreme pro life stance of many on the right is the litmus test that will only further marginalize the party IMHO. The Terri Schiavo, and embryonic stem cell issues are example of positions out of the main stream. You see black and white, I see shades of gray.
1199 | justabill Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:10:47am |
re: #174 Killian Bundy
Christopher Columbus was actually a Scotsman called Pedro Scotto, historian says
Alfonso Ensenat de Villalonga has disputed conventionally-accepted narratives on the explorer's origins - that he was the son of a weaver in Genoa, Italy, or that he was from Catalonia or Galicia in Spain.
/and he had Muslim navigators and steam turbine propulsion
What no warp drive?
"Admiral, there be whales here! "
1200 | Kenneth Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:26:39am |
re: #1196 avanti
I get the concept, but week old embryo's are at best, potential life, if and when they are implanted. If you believe that invetro fertilization is immoral, and no embryo's should be produced in the lab, then I might see your position, but if they are, and are being discarded, I don't follow the logic.
If life is sacred, why is using a scheduled to be destroyed embryo to potentially save a human life wrong. Why is it more pro life to trash them ?
You are confusing the legal definition of a "person" with the biological definition of life. Any fertilized embryo, no matter how old, is alive. So are the original sperm & egg alive.
The courts decided that unborn babies don't have rights because they are not "legal persons". That's a legal definition, not a biological one. The courts did not decide an unborn foetus is are not alive. The courts ruled that only legal persons have rights under the constitution and that unborn humans are not legal persons.
So back it up: at what point did the unborn foetus become alive? Go ahead and think about it, it's not above your pay grade, Avanti.
Biologically speaking, the embryo is alive from the very moment of conception. The cells grow, divide, consume food and produce waste products., the DNA & RNA replicate. That issue is deliberately blurred by pro-abortion activists who do not want people to clearly understand the full moral issue. No matter what way you slice it, abortion is killing a live embryo or foetus. Life is life, even if somebody else decided they don't want it around.
So the situation we have hear is one in which the courts have decided one human life form is not worthy of life and should be sacrificed for "the greater good". You can't see the slippery moral slope there?
To use our Chinese example, the organs of executed criminals are removed for use in research or transplants. The courts decided the criminals neither needed the organs, nor did they have any right to decide what they're bodies should be used for. All they know is, the gov't decided they have no right to life. Of course, in China, the gov't can decide anybody has no legal rights, or is not a "legal person".
I hope you understand now the difference between the biological fact of "life" and the legal concept of "person" and will never confuse the two again.