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1 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:56:30pm

More like a thong.

2 Gang of One  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:56:38pm

He's still around?

3 stevieray  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:56:50pm

Okay... the statement on the right makes no sense...

4 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:57:08pm

Time to start humming "So roanry" from Team America.

5 stevieray  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:57:51pm

re: #3 stevieray

Okay... the statement on the right makes no sense...

... and it makes less sense now that its gone.

6 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:58:37pm

Thong thread? FBV, where are ys!?

7 Gang of One  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:58:41pm

What, according to the assplow holding the poster, is 'the message'? Where do these people come from?

8 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:59:19pm

re: #7 Gang of One

What, according to the assplow holding the poster, is 'the message'? Where do these people come from?

I don't know but there seem to have been alot of them last November 4.

9 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 5:59:53pm

re: #1 MandyManners

Mandy, I lied earlier. They're up $10 bux/carton as of today, here. :-(

10 ArmyWife  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:00:04pm

If that is a throng, I am more famous than originally thought!

(riiiiggghhhtttt)

11 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:00:41pm

re: #7 Gang of One

What, according to the assplow holding the poster, is 'the message'? Where do these people come from?

The message is: "I'm a deadbeat supporting an asshole."

12 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:01:24pm

Where's the photograph that was on the right?

13 Glen Wishard  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:01:25pm

The ACLU t-shirt he's wearing is the last little touch of pathos.

14 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:02:03pm

I have Native American blood from both of my grandmothers and I've never used it as any sort of mechanism to promote myself to anyone for anything. To see that status being abused by the likes of this asshole just really makes my blood boil.

15 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:02:57pm

I'm surprised Obama doesn't have a bust of this Churchill in the Oval Office.

16 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:03:41pm

re: #15 livefreeor die

I'm surprised Obama doesn't have a bust of this Churchill in the Oval Office.

It's early yet. He's been biiiiiiiizzzzzyyyyy.

17 Racer X  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:04:03pm

"little Big Mouth"

LOL!

18 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:04:12pm

re: #16 pink freud

It's early yet. He's been biiiiiiiizzzzzyyyyy.

And he's sooooooo tired. Waaahhhh!

19 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:04:54pm

There's something inherently silly about radicals with hair mousse.
Image: _mg_8809.jpg

20 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:05:07pm

ArmyWife,

LynnfromNZ left a present for you on the other thread.

21 Tamron  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:05:31pm

The guy in that protest rally has a family resemblance to Bill Ayers...
.

22 Zimriel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:05:54pm

I'm pretty sure that guy is zombie playing a prank.

23 stevieray  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:05:54pm

Ward Churchill is no longer important. The radicals have the White House. What do they need a fake Indian, fake scholar, and all around wanker like Churchill for?

Once the poison is injected, the needle is useless.

24 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:06:18pm

Hopefully the Court, in finding for the University, will also levy this asshat with the legal costs of the defense against his lie upon lie upon lies ad nausea...

25 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:06:51pm

re: #18 livefreeor die

And he's sooooooo tired. Waaahhhh!

He needs a vacation. Maybe Hawaii for a few weeks. What a pussy. The guy's never had a job before and now that he has one all he does is bitch.

26 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:07:18pm

re: #23 stevieray

Ward Churchill is no longer important. The radicals have the White House. What do they need a fake Indian, fake scholar, and all around wanker like Churchill for?

Once the poison is injected, the needle is useless.

You write analogies for a living?

Good one.

27 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:08:47pm

Ugh. Two or so weeks of Ward Churchill standing on the court steps trying to look "deep" and "wronged" and martyrlike.

28 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:09:10pm

Sometimes I wonder if guys like Ward and Ayers ever wake up with an epiphany and realize how lucky they are to live in the US where their actions have been rewarded/ignored by the largess of the Nation... whereas in other countries they'd have lined up against a wall ages ago for their treason etc...But then real sociopaths don't do that (I guess) because it would require real human feelings that they utterly lack...

29 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:09:20pm

re: #27 livefreeor die

Ugh. Two or so weeks of Ward Churchill standing on the court steps trying to look "deep" and "wronged" and martyrlike.

Poor old Kaw-lijah.

30 FullRoller  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:09:42pm

Ha! you beat me to it. My thoughts persackley....re: #1 MandyManners

31 doppelganglander  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:09:56pm

doppelganglander's rule: Anyone who claims they are the victim of a witch hunt is almost certainly guilty.

32 ArmyWife  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:10:01pm

re: #20 pink freud

Thank you! I did find a house in Ginter Park I really liked, so I am going to check on the schools NZ mentioned!

33 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:10:57pm

re: #29 OldLineTexan

Poor old Kaw-lijah.

Hey, a Hank Williams Sr. reference!

34 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:11:22pm

re: #25 Truck Monkey

He needs a vacation. Maybe Hawaii for a few weeks. What a pussy. The guy's never had a job before and now that he has one all he does is bitch.

The best thing the O' could do for the stock market would be take a "few weeks off" or maybe "a few weeks working on foreign policy/etiquette for diplomats lessons" etc and generally shut the hell up about "fixing things"...

35 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:12:15pm

Churchill's supporters are are an especially filthy bunch.

36 Flighterdoc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:12:28pm

Wha?

Hey, dude...where's the dead concert?

Wanna buy a sign?....s'cool...

37 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:12:42pm

re: #35 Ringo the Gringo

Churchill's supporters are are an especially filthy bunch.

Soap is a lye of the white man.

38 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:13:10pm

re: #1 MandyManners

More like a thong.

Thongs are useful and appreciable in the right context...

39 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:13:18pm

re: #31 doppelganglander

doppelganglander's rule: Anyone who claims they are the victim of a witch hunt is almost certainly guilty.

It will be interesting to see him try to explain away his plagiarism and lying about his ethnic background. He's such a sociopathic creep that I'm sure he's convinced himself he did nothing wrong.

40 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:13:26pm

Wake up folks, Ayers and this asshat are the folks teaching your kids in college! Makes feel all warm and fuzzy. /////

41 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:13:35pm

re: #37 OldLineTexan

Soap is a lye of the white man.

(groan!)

42 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:14:19pm

Ward Churchill and his ilk only exists because of the leftist cesspool the universities have become. He and others like him cannot exist outside of the imaginary world that academia has constructed around themselves. It's not an ivory tower, it is a teetering pile of BS....all supported by the tax payers and clueless university benefactors. They cannot get a "real" job in the "real" world because they are blood sucking leeches, incapable of supporting themselves with honest work.

43 stevieray  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:15:14pm

More people are questioning Obama's motives:

"Will Geithner be the Fall Guy? "

h/t Insty

As I wondered the other night... is Obama destroying the economy and the Clintonistas at the same time?

Can he then throw them both overboard as relics of the past, get a second honeymoon from the press, and then move at full-speed with his remake of America?

44 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:15:34pm

On the plus side for the moment this is modifiable to:

re: #40 pingjockey

Wake up folks, Ayers and this asshat are the folkis teaching your kids in college! Makes feel all warm and fuzzy. /////

45 Zimriel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:15:48pm
46 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:15:50pm

re: #1 MandyManners

More like a thong.

Nah, just a wedgie.

47 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:15:51pm

re: #40 pingjockey

Wake up folks, Ayers and this asshat are the folks teaching your kids in college! Makes feel all warm and fuzzy. /////

Ayers and Asshat don't have the stones to teach science, engineering, or mathematics. If your kid takes those classes, they will develop a tough, scaly hide of logic, to protect them from bad teachers and worse ideas.

48 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:16:09pm

re: #15 livefreeor die

I'm surprised Obama doesn't have a bust of this Churchill in the Oval Office.

Maybe he has one in his secret shrine.

49 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:16:11pm

re: #39 livefreeor die

That's all that matters, just ask him...

50 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:16:23pm

re: #43 stevieray

Can he then throw them both overboard as relics of the past, get a second honeymoon from the press, and then move at full-speed with his remake of America?

He'll have to get better at hiring people if he fires the ones he has now.

51 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:17:20pm

Speaking of protests:

Obama is throwing out the first pitch at opening day for the Washington Nationals, Monday, 4/13, a 3:05 EDT start. Given that stadiums get too many tax dollars, and it’s two days before the IRS deadline, it seems like a perfect place for a tea party protest.

(h/t Instapundit and David Pinto)

52 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:17:30pm

What's the symbol on this chick's tshirt? It looks familiar.

53 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:18:06pm

re: #45 Zimriel

Quantum mechanicists peek inside Shroedinger's box

/head explodes

We exist when we're not thinking!

54 ArmyWife  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:18:30pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

I don't know about the shirt, but for the love of Pete, do they not have shampoo is those parts?

55 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:18:36pm

re: #40 pingjockey

Wake up folks, Ayers and this asshat are the folks teaching your kids in college! Makes feel all warm and fuzzy. /////

I'm going to make sure my kids know what to look out for on the first day of college classes. The first day of an American History class I was considering taking the professor launched into a monologue about how the class would focus upon issues of how Westerncentric viewpoints distort history and make us ignore our own biases. I was out of there.

56 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:18:48pm

re: #34 anotherindyfilmguy

The best thing the O' could do for the stock market would be take a "few weeks off" or maybe "a few weeks working on foreign policy/etiquette for diplomats lessons" etc and generally shut the hell up about "fixing things"...

Maybe he could learn what a price/earnings ratio is.

57 doppelganglander  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:18:50pm

re: #39 livefreeor die

It will be interesting to see him try to explain away his plagiarism and lying about his ethnic background. He's such a sociopathic creep that I'm sure he's convinced himself he did nothing wrong.

I'm sure you're right. What always astonishes me are how many people a sociopath can fool along the way.

58 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:18:51pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

What's the symbol on this chick's tshirt? It looks familiar.

Part of the legend is "DIED FOR YOUR SINS".

59 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:18:59pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

What's the symbol on this chick's tshirt? It looks familiar.

It's the symbol for Cr@ss, an anarchist punk band who've been around for over 30 years.

60 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:18:59pm

re: #44 anotherindyfilmguy
Ah. Thanks. Theories proven unworkable in the real world are taught as factual, workable theories in some of our intituitions of higher learning. I really don't know how much leftist crap can be spewed in "hard" science classes or math. But it seems as if the RDDBs have a death grip on the liberal arts, and revisionist history classes.

61 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:19:08pm

re: #43 stevieray


As I wondered the other night... is Obama destroying the economy and the Clintonistas at the same time?

Can he then throw them both overboard as relics of the past, get a second honeymoon from the press, and then move at full-speed with his remake of America?


I don't think so. He had no real motive to hire the Clintonistas of keep Bush appointees around after the election. If he wanted a cabinet of radicals he would have appointed one.

62 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:19:26pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

What's the symbol on this chick's tshirt? It looks familiar.

/the international symbol for loser

63 doppelganglander  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:19:29pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

What's the symbol on this chick's tshirt? It looks familiar.

The universal symbol for unshaved armpits?

64 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:19:46pm

re: #48 MandyManners

Maybe he has one in his secret shrine.

Next to the Egg of Power.

65 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:19:46pm

re: #58 OldLineTexan

Part of the legend is "DIED FOR YOUR SINS".

It's a Jesus thing?

66 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:19:53pm

re: #59 mikalm

I hate to admit that I was into them back in my college moonbat daze. But I then I turned 20.

67 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:19:54pm

re: #56 Truck Monkey

You're asking a lot from him, that being like... math and economics stuff and all... as opposed to you know... community undermining...

68 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:19:57pm

re: #38 anotherindyfilmguy

Thongs are useful and appreciable in the right context...

I do NOT want to see a whale tail on ANYTHING over 140 pounds!

69 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:20:11pm
Bill Ayers and Ward Churchill Have a lot in common. Both are violent propagandists and both suffer from a malady that effects Marxists……. 9/11 envy.

That's true.

70 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:20:16pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

What's the symbol on this chick's tshirt? It looks familiar.

Looks like a combination of a cross and an 'international no' symbol.

71 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:20:34pm

Nice work El Marco!

72 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:20:35pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

What's the symbol on this chick's tshirt? It looks familiar.

Judging by the number of masks, it's obviously something to be ashamed of.

73 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:20:38pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

What's the symbol on this chick's tshirt? It looks familiar.

*blank* DIED FOR *blank* SINS

The rest is obscured.

74 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:20:41pm

re: #59 mikalm

Ah, thanks.

75 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:21:30pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

It's a Jesus thing?

I think it's mocking.... not sure, not a tradition Christian emblem.

76 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:22:13pm

I love the poster of the Pretendindian waving around an AK.

Hey Ward? You and me, 50 yards, whatever firearm you choose. Shithead.

77 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:22:21pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Ah, thanks.

No problemo. Along with Zombie and Neocon Hippie, I seem to be the resident expert on countercultural stuff here, so I'm always happy to clue in the Lizard Community on these obscure references.

78 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:22:43pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

What's the symbol on this chick's tshirt? It looks familiar.

I can't get past the fact that she needs to wash her hair. She must smell like 10 day old trash.

79 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:22:59pm

re: #68 Truck Monkey

I didn't mean lot lizards...

80 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:23:13pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

What's the symbol on this chick's tshirt? It looks familiar.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it may be a Latin cross with a circle-and-slash over it. The fact that the top of the inscription seems to say 'Died for your sins' seems to support that.

81 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:23:15pm

re: #75 jcm

I think it's mocking.... not sure, not a tradition Christian emblem.

Cr@ss are/were most explicitly militant secularists. They use/d a lot of anti-Christian, anti-religion slogans and imagery.

82 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:23:35pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

What's the symbol on this chick's tshirt? It looks familiar.

That's the symbol (logo) of the 1980's British anarchist punk collective known a Crass.

Believe it or not, I used to be a fan.

83 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:23:41pm

re: #78 Truck Monkey

I can't get past the fact that she needs to wash her hair. She must smell like 10 day old trash.

What do you mean "like"?

84 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:24:26pm

re: #59 mikalm

It's the symbol for Cr@ss, an anarchist punk band who've been around for over 30 years.

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Ah, thanks.

Here's the full logo.

Jesus died for his own sins not mine.

85 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:24:26pm

re: #73 jcm

*blank* DIED FOR *blank* SINS

The rest is obscured.

It says "Jesus died for his own sins, not mine".

86 doppelganglander  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:00pm

OT: Justices Decline New York Gun Suit

New York City’s nine-year lawsuit accusing gun makers of flooding illicit markets with their firearms came to an end on Monday, when the United States Supreme Court refused to consider a lower court’s dismissal of the case.
87 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:02pm

re: #81 mikalm

Cr@ss are/were most explicitly militant secularists. They use/d a lot of anti-Christian, anti-religion slogans and imagery.

What ever floats your boat I guess.

88 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:08pm

re: #78 Truck Monkey

I can't get past the fact that she needs to wash her hair. She must smell like 10 day old trash.

I think it's really weird that they all have to cover up their unusually long noses.

89 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:10pm

re: #85 Ringo the Gringo

It says "Jesus died for his own sins, not mine".

Bitch.

90 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:17pm

re: #82 Ringo the Gringo

Another ex-Cr@ss fan!

I need to organize a convention for old punk rockers who grew up, and realized most of the "scene"'s political content was juvenile, idiotic, nihilistic nonsense.

91 doppelganglander  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:17pm

re: #76 Occasional Reader

I love the poster of the Pretendindian waving around an AK.

Hey Ward? You and me, 50 yards, whatever firearm you choose. Shithead.

I will buy tickets to that.

92 Racer X  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:20pm
93 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:42pm

If you want a refresher course as to why Chutch is such a disgrace -
go here.

94 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:46pm

As you pass by a group of unwashed moonbats like those in the photo, the best thing to say is, "cheer up, kids, I'm sure Starbucks will be accepting applications soon."

95 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:58pm

re: #85 Ringo the Gringo

It says "Jesus died for his own sins, not mine".

How...cute.

/oh, do I gotta?

96 LynnfromNZ  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:58pm

Yeah it's a thong -- holds just one scrote.

97 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:25:58pm

When I went to college, I went to class.

What a chump I was; instead of memorizing terms and data and writing papers, I could have been hanging out on some steps and making a statement.*


*I don't wanna go to class

98 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:26:00pm

re: #75 jcm

I think it's mocking.... not sure, not a tradition Christian emblem.

I don't think traditional christians wear the face masks and lock arms to march either.

99 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:26:18pm

re: #60 pingjockey

Eventually they'll be chucked out of the system like the viruses they are as social darwinism takes over... might still take a long while but it should happen over time barring the massive social breakdown they've been working towards... Ward boy is one example of the system finally choking on the vomit within it... he's just fortunate this is all just confined to the courts...

100 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:27:03pm

re: #92 Racer X

WTF?

That's horrible.

101 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:27:08pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

It's a Jesus thing?

I see this was answered already (Crass), but remember the "Custer Died for Your Sins" manifesto? Not much Jesus in that.

102 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:27:14pm

re: #94 Occasional Reader

As you pass by a group of unwashed moonbats like those in the photo, the best thing to say is, "cheer up, kids, I'm sure Starbucks will be accepting applications soon."

I'm planning to say, in the most mawkish tone I can muster, "Awwww - you're radicals! How cute!"

103 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:27:24pm

re: #92 Racer X

WTF?

Typical. The west is evil, vile. Blood libels aplenty in that screed.

104 Natasha  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:27:25pm

What is it with moonbats and total neglect of even the most basic hygiene?

105 LynnfromNZ  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:27:40pm

re: #85 Ringo the Gringo

Sounds like Patti Smith -- "Jesus died for someone's sins, but not mine."

106 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:27:46pm

re: #90 mikalm

Another ex-Cr@ss fan!

I need to organize a convention for old punk rockers who grew up, and realized most of the "scene"'s political content was juvenile, idiotic, nihilistic nonsense.

I was watching Palladia the other day on cable and I saw the Sex Pistols perform at the Isle of Wight.....If you close your eyes, it sounded "ok", but looking at balding, middle aged, overweight guys belt out "punk rebellion songs".....it does not quite ring so true.....

107 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:28:15pm

re: #102 mikalm

I'm planning to say, in the most mawkish tone I can muster, "Awwww - you're radicals! How cute!"

"You'll grow out of it" is good, too.

108 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:28:20pm

re: #76 Occasional Reader

I love the poster of the Pretendindian waving around an AK.

Hey Ward? You and me, 50 yards, whatever firearm you choose. Shithead.

Ooh, maximum accurate range!

/

109 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:28:23pm

re: #98 Truck Monkey

I don't think traditional christians wear the face masks and lock arms to march either.

That's why everyone runs when we pass out tracts!

Now you tell me!

//

110 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:28:57pm

re: #92 Racer X

WTF?

The marching troops should come locked-n-loaded.

111 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:29:01pm

Churchill's support is quite unlike the Chicago Seven's trial support.
Pathetic..........

112 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:29:24pm

re: #94 Occasional Reader

As you pass by a group of unwashed moonbats like those in the photo, the best thing to say is, "cheer up, kids, I'm sure Starbucks will be accepting applications soon."

Starbucks will not make it through Obamas depression. Make them work at Walmart or McDonalds!

113 gmsc  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:29:59pm

re: #102 mikalm

I'm planning to say, in the most mawkish tone I can muster, "Awwww - you're radicals! How cute!"

Activist: Someone who is so concerned about a cause that they are willing to devote much of their time to demanding someone else do something about it.

114 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:30:30pm

churchill is a loser. a fake indian, a plagiarist, a commie, an anti-american.

this is how he wants to get over. cultivate the leftist fringe.
be a star in academia. lol. he brings nothing of merit. just hyped grievance
and phony intellectualism.
he is a lazy no account bum. him and his beaded head band.
he has never done any real research or productive study.
and hey ward, that shite you pushed abt. american soldiers foisting small pox on indians is b.s.
small pox needs person to person infection.
he is a fear mongering worthless s.o.b.
he should never be allowed in front of students again.

115 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:30:36pm

re: #90 mikalm

Another ex-Cr@ss fan!

I need to organize a convention for old punk rockers who grew up, and realized most of the "scene"'s political content was juvenile, idiotic, nihilistic nonsense.

I still have most all of their albums (LP's). Penis Envy was their best.

I listen to mostly classical, early jazz and old Jamaican music these days.

116 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:30:44pm

Too late, all of the PhD's from the Philosophy Department have all the good barista jobs already

117 Racer X  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:30:46pm
118 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:30:48pm

re: #112 Truck Monkey

Starbucks will not make it through Obamas depression. Make them work at Walmart or McDonalds!

Should we shorten it and call his administration the "O'prresion"...

119 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:30:54pm

re: #112 Truck Monkey

Starbucks will not make it through Obamas depression. Make them work at Walmart or McDonalds!

Walmart ... employee discount on soap, shampoo, deodorant, fungus treatments ...

120 stevieray  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:31:02pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

I don't think so. He had no real motive to hire the Clintonistas of keep Bush appointees around after the election. If he wanted a cabinet of radicals he would have appointed one.

Here's a motive: Sow economic destruction without getting the blame.

If he brought in the radicals from the get-go, and they drove the economy down in order to increase the demand for their "cures", it would be patently obvious.

He needs a disposable cabinet... one who will do the damage... and take the public disdain with them as they slink out the door.

121 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:31:03pm

What's with the blue glasses, the masks, and the filthy-looking clothes?

122 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:31:07pm

re: #104 Natasha

What is it with moonbats and total neglect of even the most basic hygiene?

I remember in my drinking days hygene wasn't high on my list as I rolled out of bed at the crack of noon.

123 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:31:50pm

re: #7 Gang of One

What, according to the assplow holding the poster, is 'the message'? Where do these people come from?

They all graduated from Boulder High School.

124 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:31:51pm
125 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:04pm

re: #106 Desert Dog

I was watching Palladia the other day on cable and I saw the Sex Pistols perform at the Isle of Wight.....If you close your eyes, it sounded "ok", but looking at balding, middle aged, overweight guys belt out "punk rebellion songs".....it does not quite ring so true.....

They're well-paid for such nostalgia shows. Johnny lives in Malibu, in a 'hood right near the beach where homes start at three mill. I suppose I can't blame him for wanting to live well, being that he grew up poor in East London, but it does make the whole anarchy/rebellion thing a bit of a joke.

126 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:25pm

re: #117 Racer X

Priceless...

Hey, I've had "meat" like that!

127 smokefire  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:42pm

re: #114 nyc redneck

nyc, tell me how you Really feel about Ward

128 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:46pm

re: #120 stevieray

I'm still waiting for him to find the excuse and throw Mrs. Clinton under the bus...

129 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:47pm

re: #104 Natasha

What is it with moonbats and total neglect of even the most basic hygiene?

Good hygiene is so bourgeoisie.

130 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:49pm

What's with the blue goggles? Moonbat fashion statement?

131 ArmyWife  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:51pm

I was just going to go off on a tirade about how I went to school at the age of 24 with a 4 year old, and had a baby my senior year, then went on to grad school, making all As, brag brag brag, now I have a great, well paying job that per Obama makes me rich (though funny, I don't feel very rich), only to go back to a conversation I was having down thread where I misspelled "high school". The shame!

132 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:32:59pm

re: #121 reine.de.tout

What's with the blue glasses, the masks, and the filthy-looking clothes?

Goggles and masks are to resist tear gas.

Filthy clothes? That's just par for the course.

133 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:33:20pm

re: #119 OldLineTexan

Walmart ... employee discount on soap, shampoo, deodorant, fungus treatments ...

Don't forget the $3 scrips for Penicillin.

134 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:33:33pm

Ok, in this photo, the guy in the front row, a little left of center - what is that hanging down below his belt or whatever?

135 ArmyWife  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:33:34pm

re: #121 reine.de.tout

They haven't been home to Mom and Dad in a bit to get their laundry done. Because they know from suffering!

136 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:33:40pm

re: #121 reine.de.tout

I think the blue "glasses" are actually eye protection for swimming. Useful when the CS grenades start flying. The masks protect the mucus membrane of the nose as well. Well that's the way it's supposed to work, in theory.

/hose them down first then launch the CS.

137 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:34:01pm

re: #124 TheMatrix31

Venezuelan Co-Star Tells Sean Penn To Stop Slobbering Over Chavez

I've seen her interviewed. She really lets it out. She sounds like she'd rip Thugo a new one with her bare hands and make him watch.

138 ArmyWife  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:34:25pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

ummm...wow, what IS that?

139 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:34:26pm

re: #127 smokefire

nyc, tell me how you Really feel about Ward

He's a cigar-store Indian.

140 ArmyWife  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:34:56pm

re: #139 OldLineTexan

I thought they discovered he wasn't Native American at all, it was a big fat lie?

141 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:34:58pm

re: #132 Occasional Reader

Goggles and masks are to resist tear gas.

Filthy clothes? That's just par for the course.

OK.
Having missed out on all the fun when I was a kid, I did not know that.

142 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:34:59pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

Looks like the front bib part of a pair of coveralls.

143 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:04pm

re: #137 OldLineTexan

I've seen her interviewed. She really lets it out. She sounds like she'd rip Thugo a new one with her bare hands and make him watch.

I wish she would.

144 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:08pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

Ok, in this photo, the guy in the front row, a little left of center - what is that hanging down below his belt or whatever?

Is this test going to count for our final grade?

145 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:15pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

Ok, in this photo, the guy in the front row, a little left of center - what is that hanging down below his belt or whatever?

That's his penis.


/
//hey, you asked

146 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:31pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

Ok, in this photo, the guy in the front row, a little left of center - what is that hanging down below his belt or whatever?

EEwwwwww.

147 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:35:41pm

Churchill and Ayers are raging hemorrhoids on the backside of America.

148 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:12pm

Choice quotes from "Prof." Churchill:

“When I started out it was ‘U.S. out of Vietnam,and then that was changed and it became ‘U.S. out of Indochina,’ and then it became ‘U.S. out of Southern Africa,’ and it was ‘U.S. out of the Caribbean and Central America,’ and then it became ‘U.S. out of the Persian Gulf.’ I agreed with every one of those, but ultimately there’s only one way that any of them will be possible and that is: US out of North America, U.S. off the planet, and take Canada with you when you go!

“One of the things I’ve suggested is that it may be that more 9/11s are necessary. This seems like such a no-brainer that I hate to frame it in terms of actual transformation of consciousness — Hey those brown-skinned folks dying in the millions in order to maintain this way of life, they can wait forever for those who purport to be the opposition here to find some personally comfortable and pure manner of affecting the kind of transformation that brings not just lethal but genocidal processes to a halt.”

The sick sonofabitch.

149 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:18pm

re: #138 ArmyWife

ummm...wow, what IS that?

awfully small and raggedy lookin'.

150 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:21pm

re: #121 reine.de.tout

What's with the blue glasses, the masks, and the filthy-looking clothes?

For these brave professional protesters, with anonymity comes artificial courage, from joining a group of like minded losers comes artificial acceptance. They are rebels and individuals, but they all dress a like and act a like. At one point for all of these people, there comes a point in their lives when they realize they have to grow up. It just takes some longer to realize that. Of course, you get people like Prof. Churchill....he has not reached that point yet and may never....

151 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:31pm

re: #140 ArmyWife

I thought they discovered he wasn't Native American at all, it was a big fat lie?

Yep.

152 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:36:42pm

re: #142 BlueCanuck

Looks like the front bib part of a pair of coveralls.

ha-ha!
You're spoiling my fun.

153 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:37:11pm

I have to confess, I am fascinated by people who take on 'oppressed' personas to gain power in academia or publishing. There's something so utterly bizarre about the behavior, and yet it makes a weird kind of sense.

There's a woman who wrote a 'memoir' about her childhood as a white and Native American foster child in a black home in South Central LA. Claimed to be a drug dealer and a Crip, made it out and went to college...totally untrue. She's a white girl from Sherman Oaks. Got outed when her sister saw an interview with her in the NY Times.

Apparently when she was in college, she fed information about her earlier childhood 'on the reservation' to a professor who used it in his work-- after the whole thing was debunked, he wrote a piece insisting that it was 'truish', if not actually true in any way.

Ghah. I wish I was more surprised that Churchill made it so far with his charade, but I went to college in the early 90s, and basically, there's too much room for an aggressive faker who can do the lingo.

154 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:37:16pm

re: #121 reine.de.tout

What's with the blue glasses, the masks, and the filthy-looking clothes?

As much as I tried to come up with an answer.. I got nothing..

155 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:37:27pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

Ok, in this photo, the guy in the front row, a little left of center - what is that hanging down below his belt or whatever?

Oh geez, I don't want to know.

156 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:37:50pm

re: #148 Fat Jolly Penguin

Choice quotes from "Prof." Churchill:

The sick sonofabitch.

How is this NOT obvious evidence of mental illness and liberalism - same thing.

157 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:38:20pm

re: #152 reine.de.tout

ha-ha!
You're spoiling my fun.

Sorry. :) Thought it was a serious question.

158 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:38:21pm

re: #154 HoosierHoops

As much as I tried to come up with an answer.. I got nothing..

They are a Native American tribe, the Wacka-Mole.

159 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:38:26pm

re: #154 HoosierHoops

As much as I tried to come up with an answer.. I got nothing..

Must be the hippie uniform. Complete with BO (body odor).

160 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:38:40pm

re: #149 reine.de.tout

awfully small and raggedy lookin'.

That is "light" coming from between his legs. Look carefully, the color is coming from something behind him.

161 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:38:42pm

re: #157 BlueCanuck

Sorry. :) Thought it was a serious question.

Well, it was, actually, until I started having fun with it.

162 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:38:51pm

re: #145 Occasional Reader

That's his penis.

If that indeed is his wang, he's in for a world of hurtin' when the CS grenades go off.

163 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:38:59pm

re: #139 OldLineTexan

He's a cigar-store Indian.

Cigar store Indians are more authentic.

164 smokefire  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:39:02pm

whatever it is, it don't look circumcised

165 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:39:05pm

24 is on.
Jack is flying around in a helicopter.
He's really pissed.

166 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:39:08pm

re: #160 Walter L. Newton

That is "light" coming from between his legs. Look carefully, the color is coming from something behind him.

No way am I looking at that carefully. No way.

167 Cato the Elder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:39:29pm

re: #14 Sharmuta

I have Native American blood from both of my grandmothers and I've never used it as any sort of mechanism to promote myself to anyone for anything. To see that status being abused by the likes of this asshole just really makes my blood boil.

You know he's not really an Indian, right?

168 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:39:44pm

re: #112 Truck Monkey

Starbucks will not make it through Obamas depression. Make them work at Walmart or McDonalds!

Nah, the local landfill. Many look like they're pre-acclimated* to the stench.

*It is so a word. Shut up.

169 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:40:12pm

re: #163 lawhawk

Cigar store Indians are more authentic.

Quieter, too.

And useful.

I apologize to Kaw-liga and his brethren. Chooch is, unfortunately, a white boy.

170 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:40:18pm

re: #159 VioletTiger

Must be the hippie uniform. Complete with BO (body odor).

Did you notice the background? Where is this place? Doesn't look like California..But maybe Sac..but I doubt it..

171 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:40:19pm

churchill is a lot like o,
cut of the same cloth.
get over artists, bringing nothing
of substance to the party.
and the more no one stood in their way,
the more they pushed forward.
as aggressive empty suits like this will.

172 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:40:35pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

Ok, in this photo, the guy in the front row, a little left of center - what is that hanging down below his belt or whatever?

The belt or what every is the bib on bib overalls hanging down. The hanging thing is the strap catching the light.

173 smokefire  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:40:46pm

re: #167 Cato the Elder

You know he's not really an Indian, right?

.....sounds an awful lot like those Indians from up in Casino Country

174 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:41:16pm

re: #163 lawhawk

Cigar store Indians are more authentic.

Smarter, too.

175 stevieray  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:41:45pm

re: #128 anotherindyfilmguy

I'm still waiting for him to find the excuse and throw Mrs. Clinton under the bus...

All in good time...

She need a few more public gaffs. Then, when she is seen as a national joke, and no longer a threat to Obama's 2012 campaign, she will go.

I think when it comes to Hillary, its personal as well. Obama wants her to crawl away from DC... a broken woman.

176 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:41:47pm

re: #165 Jim in Virginia

24 is on.
Jack is flying around in a helicopter.
He's really pissed.

Is it a chopper with lots of ordnance?

177 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:42:08pm

re: #148 Fat Jolly Penguin

Stripping away the really rotten parts of Churchill's statement, what remains is this zero-sum idea:

"..Hey those brown-skinned folks dying in the millions in order to maintain this way of life..."


...which is just wrong. We buy things from overseas, and the people there find employment. When we stop buying, they have trouble.

178 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:42:12pm

re: #170 HoosierHoops

Did you notice the background? Where is this place? Doesn't look like California..But maybe Sac..but I doubt it..

It's Denver, during the 2008 Dem convention.

179 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:42:13pm

re: #160 Walter L. Newton

Walter! Hey, I actually started watching LOST! I'll be able to talk to you about it by next January!

/

180 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:42:24pm
181 smokefire  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:42:28pm

re: #169 OldLineTexan


This is for you

182 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:42:28pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

Ok, in this photo, the guy in the front row, a little left of center - what is that hanging down below his belt or whatever?

I am hoping that's a strap from the overalls that's catching the light funny.

183 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:42:47pm

re: #172 jcm

The belt or what every is the bib on bib overalls hanging down. The hanging thing is the strap catching the light.


I'll go with that explanation.

184 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:42:55pm

re: #165 Jim in VirginiaShush! I'm in the PDT zone, it ain't on yet!

185 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:43:18pm

re: #177 jaunte

...which is just wrong. We buy things from overseas, and the people there find employment. When we stop buying, they have trouble.

I see you haven't been properly educated in Leftist Zero-Sum Economics.

186 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:44:03pm
187 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:44:20pm

re: #182 SanFranciscoZionist

I am hoping that's a strap from the overalls that's catching the light funny.

Yeah, I believe that's what it is.
I was just feeling a bit zany, and thought I'd have a little fun at that guy's expense.

188 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:44:35pm

re: #183 A Kiwi Infidel

I'll go with that explanation.

There's the alternative......
I wave my privates in your general direction!

189 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:45:27pm

re: #187 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I believe that's what it is.
I was just feeling a bit zany, and thought I'd have a little fun at that guy's expense.

I think a cop with a night stick might be tempted to swing at the other target you have in mind.

190 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:45:27pm

Looking at the protestors is looking up at the sky on a clear day and predicting that it will be the color blue. This sub-culture that shouts so strongly against capitalism and corporations sure like their bottled water; iPhones; cell phones; laptops; and their glasses. It's hard not to notice the "corporate" digital cameras in one of the images from Denver.

More than that of course is the issue of plagiarism which is brought up in the blog. Ward Churchill also has a terrible personality to say the least in what's best described in layman's terms: an asshole. His personality fits the part. Additionally he also has an equally socially deficients band of groupies who from time to time attempt (but usually fail) feeble acts of anarchy.

191 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:45:56pm

I'm sure adolf eichmann was there ... in spirit

/spit

192 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:46:26pm

re: #185 mikalm

"White folks greed runs a world in need."
/

193 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:46:38pm

re: #127 smokefire

nyc, tell me how you Really feel about Ward

lol, did i go to far?
i hate fake indian commies. i can't help it.

194 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:46:47pm

re: #178 mikalm

It's Denver, during the 2008 Dem convention.

ahhhh.thank you..I got the hell down ding out of me once for saying that if the Grateful Dead played a concert outside of Denver during the convention that nobody would show up for the Dems? Some people don't appreciate my humor..*wink*

195 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:46:51pm

Big news in the local fish wrapper this weekend is that the Anarchists held an "organizational meeting" at the library downtown. What the hell is the point in being an anarchist when you have to have meetings to organize?

[Link: www.gazette.net...]

196 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:47:49pm

re: #190 Gus 802

This sub-culture that shouts so strongly against capitalism and corporations sure like their bottled water; iPhones; cell phones; laptops; and their glasses. It's hard not to notice the "corporate" digital cameras in one of the images from Denver.

Also, the non-locals all flew there on airliners that were built by indigenous Native American artisan workshops, entirely out of hemp.

197 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:47:55pm

re: #176 A Kiwi Infidel

Is it a chopper with lots of ordnance?

No, he's with a pompous bureaucrat.
"She circumvented my authority...".
At least you weren't bobbitted.

198 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:25pm
199 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:27pm

re: #193 nyc redneck

lol, did i go to far?
i hate fake indian commies. i can't help it.

My husband is also a white boy without proper academic credentials, but he does have documentable Cherokee ancestors, and he does not want to destroy the United States. He also does not wear a beaded headband.

Who should he send a resume to for Mr. Churchill's old job?

200 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:39pm

re: #195 Truck Monkey
They ought to send some of these wanna be anarchists to Somolia. Then they can see what a anarchist run society really looks like.

201 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:48:42pm

re: #195 Truck Monkey

Anarchist = a Marxist-Leninist who does drugs and doesn't bathe.

202 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:49:05pm

re: #192 jaunte

"White folks greed runs a world in need."
/

Is that from the Inauguration benediction? You know,
"When the Redman will get ahead man"
"When yellow will be mellow"

203 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:49:25pm

re: #170 HoosierHoops

Did you notice the background? Where is this place? Doesn't look like California..But maybe Sac..but I doubt it..

I can't tell. California is always a good guess for this sort of thing.

204 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:49:32pm

re: #188 jcm

There's the alternative......
I wave my privates in your general direction!




I see your privates and raise you two corporals

205 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:49:34pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

Ok, in this photo, the guy in the front row, a little left of center - what is that hanging down below his belt or whatever?

don't worry ... guys like him have "shmekels" that are far shorter than that!

206 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:49:51pm

re: #196 Occasional Reader

Also, the non-locals all flew there on airliners that were built by indigenous Native American artisan workshops, entirely out of hemp.

Yep. Those hemp wings sure are strong. I imagine the fuel was entirely composed of French fry oil.

"Come on mom. Could you buy me the tickets to go to Denver!? Please!?"

//

207 Natasha  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:49:54pm

re: #189 jcm

I think a cop with a night stick might be tempted to swing at the other target you have in mind.

May not work. The night stick is large, the target-- tiny. The cop would have to buy some powerful optics to find it first.

208 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:50:12pm

re: #195 Truck Monkey

Big news in the local fish wrapper this weekend is that the Anarchists held an "organizational meeting" at the library downtown. What the hell is the point in being an anarchist when you have to have meetings to organize?

[Link: www.gazette.net...]


Mebbe you should stop in and say "I feel violent today let's go burn down the library-come on!"... When they hem and haw feel free to mock them ruthlessly and take their women, if not totally unwashed and somewhat hot, out for sex breakfast etc... if on the other hand they start trashing the library you can act appropiately to "defend the common good"... win-win... enjoy...

209 stevieray  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:50:12pm

re: #196 Occasional Reader

Also, the non-locals all flew there on airliners that were built by indigenous Native American artisan workshops, entirely out of hemp.

Damn! Is there nothing that wonder fiber can't do?

/

210 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:50:15pm

re: #195 Truck Monkey

Big news in the local fish wrapper this weekend is that the Anarchists held an "organizational meeting" at the library downtown. What the hell is the point in being an anarchist when you have to have meetings to organize?

[Link: www.gazette.net...]

"What is needed is a social movement and not only relying on the political process to solve social problems, he added."

Deep thoughts.

211 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:50:48pm

re: #197 Jim in Virginia

No, he's with a pompous bureaucrat.
"She circumvented my authority...".
At least you weren't bobbitted.

Ow, oooh! I had one of those funny feeling moments like when women start talking difficult childbirths

212 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:51:07pm

re: #201 mikalm

Anarchist = a Marxist-Leninist who does drugs and doesn't bathe.


Nobody worries about Maxist-Leninist on drugs that doesn't bathe taking over America..
The well-spoken rock star has me a little worried

213 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:51:54pm

re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist

My husband is also a white boy without proper academic credentials, but he does have documentable Cherokee ancestors, and he does not want to destroy the United States. He also does not wear a beaded headband.

Who should he send a resume to for Mr. Churchill's old job?

Sounds like my hubby, down to the Cherokee ancestor part.

214 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:51:58pm

re: #179 OldLineTexan

Walter! Hey, I actually started watching LOST! I'll be able to talk to you about it by next January!

/

good, do you mean started to watch past seasons?

215 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:52:10pm

re: #204 A Kiwi Infidel

I see your privates and raise you two corporals

Ugh! I thought you meant these two Corporals (who did just a bit of damage to the world in their later careers!)

216 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:52:20pm

re: #214 Walter L. Newton

good, do you mean started to watch past seasons?

Yes, I am on One. ;)

217 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:52:25pm

More music videos Charles..........
The real world news....just....SUCKS!

218 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:52:32pm

re: #170 HoosierHoops

Did you notice the background? Where is this place? Doesn't look like California..But maybe Sac..but I doubt it..

As someone pointed out, it's Denver. The building in the background is the Colorado State House.

219 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:52:44pm

re: #200 pingjockey

They ought to send some of these wanna be anarchists to Somolia. Then they can see what a anarchist run society really looks like.

Hahahahahah.
"Dude, where's the closet 7-11 I got the munchies man!"

11x17 inch poster on a light pole in Seattle University District. Entire thing was filled with a manfesto in 8 point font. Except for the center in 24 point bold font was the following exclamation.

ORGANIZE FOR ANARCHY!

220 Natasha  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:52:44pm

Forgot to whom I may attribute this, but I love it: "If religion is opium of the masses, then Communism is crack!"

221 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:00pm

re: #195 Truck Monkey

Anarchists don't understand anarchy.

222 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:15pm

re: #217 reloadingisnotahobby

More music videos Charles..........
The real world news....just....SUCKS!

Agreed. This is my island of sanity right now.

223 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:19pm

re: #209 stevieray

Damn! Is there nothing that wonder fiber can't do?

/

Your moniker not after this dude, is it?

224 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:36pm

re: #218 Gus 802

As someone pointed out, it's Denver. The building in the background is the Colorado State House.


Thanks Gus

225 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:46pm

Teen age boy was shot up in Wheaton MD (northern DC suburbs) a week or so ago in a gang fight. This weekend there was a "concert against violence" in his memory-- during which the cops arrested 16 people for fighting.

226 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:53pm

re: #222 livefreeor die

Agreed. This is my island of sanity right now.

As an anarchist, I refuse to acknowledge anarchy.

///

227 wiffersnapper  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:56pm

I'm sure the throng wears a thong

228 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:57pm

re: #192 jaunte

Dreams of My Father
... Page 293 (paperback edition)
Obama remembers a sermon by Rev. Jeremiah Wright:
"... It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-a-Prince see in a year, where white folks' greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere ... That's the world! On which hope sits."

President of the United States of America.

/wearesofucked!

229 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:53:58pm

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth

Anarchists don't understand anarchy.

Right, but they really like the word.

230 David Simon  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:54:00pm

Speaking of moonbats, one of Obama's economic advisers weighs in:

In addition, the president proposes to limit the deductions for dependents, charitable contributions and other expenses to 28%, the top rate for such deductions under Ronald Reagan. Some critics claim this is class warfare. But why should a family in a higher tax bracket get a bigger break on expenses than a middle-class family?

Um, maybe because the income that was used to pay those expenses was taxed at a higher rate than a middle-class family's income?

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

231 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:54:21pm

re: #219 jcm
Mwahahahahaha! Fucking clueless kids. Spoiled brats. Lets cut power off to the U district for 3 days and see how mothers little darlings fare!

232 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:54:23pm

re: #211 A Kiwi Infidel

Ow, oooh! I had one of those funny feeling moments like when women start talking difficult childbirths


It will make you pucker.

233 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:54:39pm

re: #167 Cato the Elder

You know he's not really an Indian, right?

Yes... that's why I'm pissed off.

234 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:55:10pm

re: #228 IslandLibertarian

Dreams of My Father
... Page 293 (paperback edition)
Obama remembers a sermon by Rev. Jeremiah Wright:
"... It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-a-Prince see in a year, where white folks' greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere ... That's the world! On which hope sits."

President of the United States of America.

/wearesofucked!

Is he back in the pews yet?

235 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:55:15pm
236 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:55:35pm

Injun wannabe,
Hateful in paper teepee.
Send to psycho Ward.

237 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:56:15pm

re: #227 wiffersnapper

I'm sure the throng wears a thong

Thong throng blues

238 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:56:42pm
“It’s important to know Indian history, and it’s important to know factual Indian history, not just a bunch of B.S. that someone made up,” said Russell Thornton, a professor at the University of California at Los Angeles.

Very good quote.

239 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:57:11pm

re: #116 Desert Dog

Too late, all of the PhD's from the Philosophy Department have all the good barista jobs already

I thought philosophers became brewmasters, making beer.

240 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:57:35pm

re: #237 OldLineTexan

Thong throng blues

Everybody knows one
Thong throng blue
Every garden grows one

241 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:57:51pm

re: #229 pink freud

They think it means they'll get to do whatever the fuck they want, and maybe some would for that brief moment. But anarchy is transient and unstable, and exist only briefly between two forms of government.

242 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:01pm

re: #235 Iron Fist

Dude, I hate to break this to you, but John Lennon is dead. I imagine that he now knows if there's no Heaven, no God, and whether or not his little ode to Marxism (He's a Marxist-Lennonist :-) was true or not.


Hey bro..I was referring to our dead leader.. Obama
sorry for the misunderstanding

243 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:17pm
244 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:47pm

re: #234 A Kiwi Infidel

Is he back in the pews yet?

If he's been going to church anywhere in the District, I haven't seen it reported.

245 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:51pm

re: #231 pingjockey

Mwahahahahaha! Fucking clueless kids. Spoiled brats. Lets cut power off to the U district for 3 days and see how mothers little darlings fare!

I so wish I had a camera that day to take a picture of that poster. It was priceless.

246 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:58:59pm

I was watching a DVD of old 1950's Gumby episodes with my 3 year old daughter the other day and in one of the episodes Gumby goes out west and gets kidnapped by a tribe of Indians....the name of the tribe is the Pesky Indians.

That might explain why we don't see Gumby re-runs on TV these days.

247 stevieray  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:59:11pm

re: #223 A Kiwi Infidel

Your moniker not after this dude, is it?

Heh. Everybody asks me that!

Actually, my nic is my nickname in the real world... I've been called stevieray pretty much since birth... long before Stevie Ray Vaughn was famous.

I wish I could say it was because I played like him though...

248 livefreeor die  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:59:16pm

BBIAW.

249 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 6:59:52pm

re: #237 OldLineTexan

Thong throng blues


A Neil Diamond pun? Oh, please........

250 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:00:33pm

re: #249 Jim in Virginia

A Neil Diamond pun? Oh, please........

Boooo! Hiss!

251 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:00:58pm
252 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:01:02pm

re: #241 Slumbering Behemoth

"Anarchy Burger" by funny-punk band The Vandals:

anarchy, kill a cat
shoot james brady in the back
raise an army of rabid rats
beat your neighbor with a bat

anarchy burger
hold the government
anarchy burger
hold the government

anarchy, go ape shit
let them know your sick of it
write your congressman,
tell him he sucks, your only in it for the bucks

anarchy burger
hold the government
anarchy burger
hold the government

you're all potential anarchy burgers
if you want to be free
order yourself an anarchy burger
(hold the government, please)

anarchy burger
hold the government

America stands for freedom
but if you think you're free
try walking into a deli
and urinating on the cheese

anarchy burger
hold the government
anarchy burger
hold the government

say f*ck in front of your mom
f*ck!
and
go to school naked

253 NukeAtomrod  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:01:34pm

OT. I'm watching Hannity and Victoria Jackson is on. Bob Beckel is trying to diminish her, but she's fearless. She said that Obama is a Marxist and she'd like Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin to run for Pres and VP. It's nice to see a normal person on a show like that. Beckel was flabbergasted.

254 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:01:53pm

So who's ready for a little good news?
Two gals( convienience store clerks) overpowered an armed
robber this am..........Guess who left in a body bag!

255 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:01:55pm

re: #252 mikalm

"Profound, dude."

256 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:01:57pm

re: #246 Ringo the Gringo

I was watching a DVD of old 1950's Gumby episodes with my 3 year old daughter the other day and in one of the episodes Gumby goes out west and gets kidnapped by a tribe of Indians....the name of the tribe is the Pesky Indians.

That might explain why we don't see Gumby re-runs on TV these days.

How about the lost tribe, the Fukawi?

We're the Fukawi!
I told you, I don't know!

257 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:01:59pm

re: #244 Jim in Virginia

If he's been going to church anywhere in the District, I haven't seen it reported.

Too busy partying. Looks like the tradition the President being very visible in his attendance at his local church on any given Sunday in another assigned to the history books. So much for that declaration "I am a Christian"

258 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:02:13pm

re: #246 Ringo the Gringo

I was watching a DVD of old 1950's Gumby episodes with my 3 year old daughter the other day and in one of the episodes Gumby goes out west and gets kidnapped by a tribe of Indians....the name of the tribe is the Pesky Indians.

That might explain why we don't see Gumby re-runs on TV these days.

There's a number of old Warner Brothers cartoons along the same vein- they're not aired anymore either.

259 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:02:39pm

Now on Fox: Feingold and Bayh are planning not to vote with the other Dems for the spending bill.

260 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:02:41pm

re: #247 stevieray

Heh. Everybody asks me that!

Actually, my nic is my nickname in the real world... I've been called stevieray pretty much since birth... long before Stevie Ray Vaughn was famous.

I wish I could say it was because I played like him though...


There is a vacancy......

261 The Shadow Do  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:02:48pm

The only issue I have with this Ward dude, is well, he is just not worth any kind of effort. Dust fart in the wind he is.

262 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:03:02pm

re: #252 mikalm That sounds Ron Paulian.

263 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:03:40pm

re: #258 Sharmuta

There's a number of old Warner Brothers cartoons along the same vein- they're not aired anymore either.

Like the one where Bugs wins a stereotyped hunter's (not Elmer) clothes in a dice game.

264 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:17pm

re: #216 OldLineTexan

Yes, I am on One. ;)

Fun. And as you proceed, if you have any questions, I will try to answer without creating spoilers for the episodes you haven't seen.

Keep in touch on this when you can.

265 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:23pm

re: #252 mikalm

you're all potential anarchy burgers

Sounds about right. Waiting for that one brilliant, shining moment when they become ground meat.

266 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:34pm

re: #263 OldLineTexan

Like the one where Bugs wins a stereotyped hunter's (not Elmer) clothes in a dice game.

I was thinking of the Indian barber shop cartoon.

267 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:41pm

re: #264 Walter L. Newton

Fun. And as you proceed, if you have any questions, I will try to answer without creating spoilers for the episodes you haven't seen.

Keep in touch on this when you can.

Thanks! I will take you up on that.

268 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:47pm

re: #252 mikalm

...and, as I once pointed out: that song was supposed to be a joke, but just a few years after it came out, a guy at UC Berkeley (where else?) actually started going to school naked (LNWF).

269 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:04:53pm

re: #259 jaunte

Now on Fox: Feingold and Bayh are planning not to vote with the other Dems for the spending bill.

They say why?

270 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:05:00pm

re: #259 jaunte

Now on Fox: Feingold and Bayh are planning not to vote with the other Dems for the spending bill.

Why isn't Bayh voting for it? Indiana must not be getting enough money..
This will change soon

271 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:05:20pm

re: #198 DistantThunder

The American Form of Government- excellent - and short video

The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government!

Excellent!

272 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:05:30pm

Room with a View - beautiful song

273 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:15pm

I can't stand "progressives" like this fool. Fuck him, Bill Ayers and their protege B. Hussein Obama.

274 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:24pm

re: #266 Sharmuta

I was thinking of the Indian barber shop cartoon.

I don't have that one ... dang.

I do have the dice game one on tape, as well as several Little Rascals episodes that will NEVER be aired again. Odd stuff that used to show up on cheap VHS "kid's tapes". I had to put some of them away ...

275 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:34pm

re: #153 SanFranciscoZionist

I have to confess, I am fascinated by people who take on 'oppressed' personas to gain power in academia or publishing. There's something so utterly bizarre about the behavior, and yet it makes a weird kind of sense.

There's a woman who wrote a 'memoir' about her childhood as a white and Native American foster child in a black home in South Central LA. Claimed to be a drug dealer and a Crip, made it out and went to college...totally untrue. She's a white girl from Sherman Oaks. Got outed when her sister saw an interview with her in the NY Times.

Apparently when she was in college, she fed information about her earlier childhood 'on the reservation' to a professor who used it in his work-- after the whole thing was debunked, he wrote a piece insisting that it was 'truish', if not actually true in any way.

Ghah. I wish I was more surprised that Churchill made it so far with his charade, but I went to college in the early 90s, and basically, there's too much room for an aggressive faker who can do the lingo.

there is a whole cadre of losers out there who will make up anything to get ahead.
lie abt. the very essence of everything in their lives. and position themselves in a victim class but as a person of strength who can fight on the behalf of those aggrieved, strictly to gain personal power.
money, status, standing.
invitations to hollywood parties, tenure, academic kudos for no reason.
the problem is , intelligentsia is so corrupt no one rats each other out.
it is very much like politics.
many of these people are after personal gain or fame.
they use higher learning or service to their country to acquire it.
not too many yrs. ago these charlatans would have been called on their shite.
rode out of town on a rail.

276 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:35pm
277 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:06:57pm

re: #265 Slumbering Behemoth

Anarchie bergers iz maed uv peepl! Iz maed uv peepl!

278 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:07:18pm

re: #269 pink freud

They say why?

I had to do a little searching:

Bayh focused his criticism on the steep increase in discretionary spending.

"The omnibus increases discretionary spending by 8 percent of last fiscal year's levels, dwarfing the rate of inflation," he wrote in an op-ed article this week in the Wall Street Journal. "Such increases might be appropriate for a nation flush with cash or unconcerned with fiscal prudence, but America is neither."

He added: "Those who vote for the omnibus this week -- after standing with the president and pledging to slice our deficit in half last week -- jeopardize their credibility."


[Link: www.startribune.com...]

279 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:07:34pm

re: #257 A Kiwi Infidel

Too busy partying. Looks like the tradition the President being very visible in his attendance at his local church on any given Sunday in another assigned to the history books. So much for that declaration "I am a Christian"


IIRC Reagan rarely attended church in DC. Nor did he state in his campaign how important church had been to himself and his family.

280 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:08:12pm

re: #276 Iron Fist

Heh. That's what anarchy means to me. Open season on anarchists.

Ain't that much fun now, is it?

281 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:08:26pm
282 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:08:34pm

re: #266 Sharmuta

I was thinking of the Indian barber shop cartoon.

Banned cartoons, banned history. Can't make a former enemy sound like an enemy in the teaching of history.

283 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:08:42pm

re: #275 nyc redneck

there is a whole cadre of losers out there who will make up anything to get ahead.
lie abt. the very essence of everything in their lives. and position themselves in a victim class but as a person of strength who can fight on the behalf of those aggrieved, strictly to gain personal power.
money, status, standing.
invitations to hollywood parties, tenure, academic kudos for no reason.
the problem is , intelligentsia is so corrupt no one rats each other out.
it is very much like politics.
many of these people are after personal gain or fame.
they use higher learning or service to their country to acquire it.
not too many yrs. ago these charlatans would have been called on their shite.
rode out of town on a rail.

Why tell the truth? A story is so much more interestng.

284 Dianna  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:10:47pm

Ward Churchill is delusional. He's been gaming so long that he believes all his nonsense. If he were still in touch with reality, he'd be slinking off into the shadows, or onto the lecture circuit.

285 SlartyBartfast  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:10:51pm

re: #281 taxfreekiller

Conservative Backlash, 2010: from your mouth (i.e., comment) to God's ears, TFK!

286 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:10:55pm

re: #268 mikalm

...and, as I once pointed out: that song was supposed to be a joke, but just a few years after it came out, a guy at UC Berkeley (where else?) actually started going to school naked (LNWF).


Sad. The guy really was crazy.

287 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:12pm

re: #104 Natasha

What is it with moonbats and total neglect of even the most basic hygiene?

Didn't someone say recent in an earlier thread that "Shampoo was a capitalist conspiracy" or something to that effect.

I think that to most of this "crowd" basic hygiene is "the man holding me down."

288 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:43pm

re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist

My husband is also a white boy without proper academic credentials, but he does have documentable Cherokee ancestors, and he does not want to destroy the United States. He also does not wear a beaded headband.

Who should he send a resume to for Mr. Churchill's old job?

find out and send it.
and he should wear his head band to his interview.
why not?

289 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:11:55pm
290 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:12:16pm

What "Anarchy Burger" sounds like (along with visuals):

291 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:12:54pm

re: #270 HoosierHoops
I heard an Obamaniac on the radio call Bayh a DINO. Said he was as bad as Lieberman.

292 Maui Girl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:12:57pm

re: #48 MandyManners

I had heard about the Churchill bust being removed from the Oval Office but I didn't know that Obama had the gall to actually return it to Britain. I thought maybe he had it put in the basement or something but returning it is just amazingly rude and tactless. He's embarrassing.

293 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:00pm

I've been thinking of Sarah Palin allllllll day.

294 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:07pm

Senators may punish Feingold, Bayh for opposing spending bill:
[Link: thehill.com...]

295 hazzyday  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:13:18pm

re: #245 jcm

I so wish I had a camera that day to take a picture of that poster. It was priceless.

Parents shouldn't send their kids to school at the University of Washington. Lived there most of my life. One of the most violent places in town. The worst of the PAC 10 student area I have visited. A lot of crime that goes unreported. A lot of criminal on criminal crime. Crack and meth sold in all the bars, gang members flashing guns on the Ave. Strong smart police force with their hands tied by weak vacillating local government leaders.

Cheap rents and easy prey in the form of naive students. I used to ride the bus to the U District with gang members going there for their drug selling shift.

The media is always shocked when someone is beaten, raped, robbed, or killed there. I am never surprised. Not enough cute blondes getting in trouble yet for the government to be assertive. I am always amazed that coeds will walk around town at 2 am. That's just asking for trouble there.

296 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:07pm

re: #291 Jim in Virginia

It's hard to keep the looters in line, when the looted are waking up.

297 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:14:52pm

re: #292 Maui Girl

I had heard about the Churchill bust being removed from the Oval Office but I didn't know that Obama had the gall to actually return it to Britain. I thought maybe he had it put in the basement or something but returning it is just amazingly rude and tactless. He's embarrassing.

It was on loan to GW Bush. They offered to loan it to Obama. He turned the offer down so the bust was returned. IIRC, it's at the British Ambassador's office in DC.

298 Dianna  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:00pm

re: #289 Iron Fist

Hell, if he's that delusional, he should run for President on the Democrat ticket...

Unlike Obama, he couldn't possibly stop smoking long enough for the cameras to get shots of him without a cigarette in his mouth. Seriously.

And he has these weird moments of honesty, like when he told the "mad cow" puppet girl that meat was a good thing, and essentially informed her she was an idiot.

299 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:07pm

re: #294 jaunte

Of course they will... and then they'll hope to get them back in the fold to push the next legislation they want. It's how things are done. So much posturing and preening. I also suspect much of it is for show - and that this stuff will pass eventually. They'll cut at the fringes, but the package will pass.

300 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:09pm

re: #279 Jim in Virginia

IIRC Reagan rarely attended church in DC. Nor did he state in his campaign how important church had been to himself and his family.


Paul Kengor has written a good book on a subject no author adequately covered until he took it up: the deep and abiding religious faith of Ronald Reagan. President Reagan's faith, Kengor shows, permeated every part of his life and therefore played a major role in shaping his views on every subject from abortion and school prayer to foreign affairs and the American vision in history.

This may surprise many. After all, Reagan rarely attended church and made no dramatic professions of his Christianity or at least none that made TV and entered the memory of the nation. But, as Kengor notes, "Rather than bringing himself to church, President Reagan brought the church to his presidency."

Paul Kangor agrees with your statement, but it could be misleading as to his faith.

301 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:26pm

re: #278 jaunte

[Link: www.startribune.com...]

"He added: "Those who vote for the omnibus this week -- after standing with the president and pledging to slice our deficit in half last week -- jeopardize their credibility."

Hahahahahahaha *gasp* hahahahahahha!

302 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:44pm

re: #286 Jim in Virginia

Sad. The guy really was crazy.

Sad indeed. I met him during the height of his fame, when I first moved to the Bay Area and happened on one of his jaunts in Berkeley. He was actually a nice, soft-spoken guy then.

I think what happened is that once he became yesterday's news, he no longer got the attention he desperately needed, and the demons he'd been struggling with took over. When I heard he'd killed himself, I prayed for his soul.

303 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:15:52pm

re: #301 pink freud

Oh, and thank you for finding that for me, jaunte.

304 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:00pm

re: #282 Gus 802

Banned cartoons, banned history. Can't make a former enemy sound like an enemy in the teaching of history.

Oh- the cartoon wasn't "banned", it's just not PC to air it, which is as effective as a ban, but it was imposed by the media PC leftists who wouldn't want to be accused of promoting such outrageous stereotypes. Not that they're bothered promoting stereotypes about republicans, mind you. But they don't want to be called racists.

I can't say that I disagree with the decision however- the stereotype that was portrayed in the cartoon I'm remembering is not something I would choose to air on my TV station, were I to own one. It wasn't pretty.

305 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:29pm

re: #286 Jim in Virginia

Sad. The guy really was crazy.


Yes, tragic, dead at 33 in a jail cell.

306 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:31pm

re: #244 Jim in Virginia

If he's been going to church anywhere in the District, I haven't seen it reported.

He has spent the last few weekends at Camp David. I have seen his Helicopters flying back to DC the last couple of Sunday afternoons.

307 SlartyBartfast  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:33pm

re: #297 OldLineTexan

It was on loan to GW Bush. They offered to loan it to Obama. He turned the offer down so the bust was returned. IIRC, it's at the British Ambassador's office in DC.

I have an odd feeling that Michelle-my-Belle said, "Get that thing out of here," and BHO complied. He probably didn't know who it was anyway.

308 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:16:56pm

re: #298 Dianna

Unlike Obama, he couldn't possibly stop smoking long enough for the cameras to get shots of him without a cigarette in his mouth. Seriously.

It would be a true loss to humanity if Ward were to die of lung cancer.

No, really.

I mean it.

Utter sincerity here!

Really!

309 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:33pm

re: #307 SlartyBartfast

I have an odd feeling that Michelle-my-Belle said, "Get that thing out of here," and BHO complied. He probably didn't know who it was anyway.

Thats exactly how it went.

310 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:44pm

re: #307 SlartyBartfast

I have an odd feeling that Michelle-my-Belle said, "Get that thing out of here," and BHO complied. He probably didn't know who it was anyway.

Obama put a Lincoln bust in its place. Lincoln has been made a posthumous Democrat in the grand old Chicago tradition.

311 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:46pm

On the comment section of Obama disses the prime minister of Great Britain I wrote a message at 925 to thank you guys (and gals) for your support. Your posts made my day. I enjoy the intelligent comments and articles here. If anyone comments back to me, it takes some time for me to read and answer back. But I do read them. My computer is in my office at home. I have a nice office chair, but when I was in the hospital, someone stole my butt. I have to step away some times to take the pain away. I don't know if it was stolen by nurses, doctors, hospital employees, inmates, etc. If anyone has evidence or suspicions, let me know. ;-)

312 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:17:57pm

re: #290 mikalm

All the best punk songs clock in at under one minute. "Say fuck in front of your mom". What a hoot.

313 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:18:19pm

re: #298 Dianna

And he has these weird moments of honesty, like when he told the "mad cow" puppet girl that meat was a good thing, and essentially informed her she was an idiot.

Well, anow I know I have at least two things in common with Chutch: we both like meat, and own semiauto rifles.

314 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:18:36pm

re: #308 Occasional Reader

It would be a true loss to humanity if Ward were to die of lung cancer.

No, really.

I mean it.

Utter sincerity here!

Really!

I believe you. We all need something at which to point and laugh.

315 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:18:53pm

re: #291 Jim in Virginia

I heard an Obamaniac on the radio call Bayh a DINO. Said he was as bad as Lieberman.

I don't know what a Dino is..But after Bayh did 10 trillion ads for Hillary in Indiana..He can't be the most popular guy in the White house these days..

316 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:19:02pm

re: #308 Occasional Reader

It would be a true loss to humanity if Ward were to die of lung cancer.

No, really.

I mean it.

Utter sincerity here!

Really!


BAD OR! BAD! BAD!

317 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:19:32pm

re: #297 OldLineTexan

It was on loan to GW Bush. They offered to loan it to Obama. He turned the offer down so the bust was returned. IIRC, it's at the British Ambassador's office in DC.

Was it really a loan? I was under the impression it was a gift. i do not think they expected it back.

318 kansas  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:19:33pm

re: #15 livefreeor die

I'm surprised Obama doesn't have a bust of this Churchill in the Oval Office.

He does.
[Link: www.studio925.com...]

319 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:19:39pm

BBL

320 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:20:24pm

re: #315 HoosierHoops

I don't know what a Dino is..But after Bayh did 10 trillion ads for Hillary in Indiana..He can't be the most popular guy in the White house these days..


Democrat In Name Only. Like a RINO.

321 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:20:26pm

BBL

322 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:20:28pm

re: #317 VioletTiger

Was it really a loan? I was under the impression it was a gift. i do not think they expected it back.

It was a loan. It's extremely valuable ... a museum piece ... not a copy.

323 gearhead  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:20:35pm

Join the Moonbat Reserves. Be a Throng of OneTM

324 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:20:46pm

re: #304 Sharmuta

I suppose some of them are a little "out there." Some aren't IMO but that's life. I'm watching a few right now on Live Leak and they are historically relevant which in this case covers WWII.

It's still a little perplexing that we are quick to ban these things yet other sectors of society are quick to embrace movies like "Kalifornia."

325 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:20:55pm
326 Dianna  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:21:36pm

re: #308 Occasional Reader

It would be a true loss to humanity if Ward were to die of lung cancer.

No, really.

I mean it.

Utter sincerity here!

Really!

He's over 60 now, and he hasn't slowed down his puffing that I've noticed. I have a feeling that, like Ghengis Khan, he was born in a rat year, and will live to a ripe old age.

327 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:21:58pm
Okay, so it's not exactly a ' throng'


Right. It's a dick.

328 Natasha  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:22:24pm

Great thread, and there is little I like more than laughing at useless idiots aka homegrown commies, but 5 am comes very soon. Good night!

329 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:22:37pm

re: #322 OldLineTexan

It was a loan. It's extremely valuable ... a museum piece ... not a copy.


Is it true the Brits gave it to the White House after 9-11? If so that's even more disturbing.

330 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:22:49pm

re: #327 tradewind

Right. It's a dick.

We've come full circle.

331 Dianna  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:23:07pm

re: #313 mikalm

Well, anow I know I have at least two things in common with Chutch: we both like meat, and own semiauto rifles.

I don't know that Chutch owns a semiauto. It wouldn't surprise me.

332 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:23:13pm

re: #328 Natasha

Goodnight!

333 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:24:10pm
334 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:24:28pm

re: #322 OldLineTexan

It was a loan. It's extremely valuable ... a museum piece ... not a copy.

Either way, it was so rude to hand it back like that. I expected this administration to screw most things up, but I figured they'd get the easy things right.

335 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:24:44pm

re: #320 Jim in Virginia

Democrat In Name Only. Like a RINO.

LOL that's funny..I've lived here fr a while ..Bayh is a Dem..trust me..
/I not saying he would sell out his mother for a better Union Contract..But you throw in a favorite Nephew..you just never know..

336 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:25:09pm

re: #287 ArchangelMichael

It's the ' cleanliness is next to Godliness' thing. Not where they wanna be.

337 Maui Girl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:25:34pm

re: #118 anotherindyfilmguy

Should we shorten it and call his administration the "O'prresion"...

Great bumpersticker!

338 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:25:39pm

re: #322 OldLineTexan

It was a loan. It's extremely valuable ... a museum piece ... not a copy.

GW was a big Churchill fan, BHO preferred a bust of Lincoln for the oval office.

339 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:22pm

re: #336 tradewind

Nah, clean hair interferes with the proper functioning of aluminum head gear.

340 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:26:44pm

re: #326 Dianna

He's over 60 now, and he hasn't slowed down his puffing that I've noticed. I have a feeling that, like Ghengis Khan, he was born in a rat year, and will live to a ripe old age.

Hey, I'm a Rat too! If he can get away with smoking, maybe I'll triple my current alcoholic intake and see how long I live!

And speaking of Anarchy Burgers: San Francisco Anarchist Bookfair this weekend! (This was the event that Chutch spoke at a few years' back, where Zombie took those immortal pics of the chicken-headed spectators and Inflated Scrotum Man. Word on the street has it that Sunday -- the Ides of March -- should be particularly entertaining.)

341 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:27:36pm
342 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:02pm

re: #337 Maui Girl

Great bumpersticker!

How about DOWn with the O being Obama's logo?

343 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:03pm

re: #333 NYCHardhat

If she were around, we would have fiscal responsibility.

Or at least something to look at.
; p

344 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:09pm

re: #293 NYCHardhat

I've been thinking of Sarah Palin allllllll day.



Mrs Lobo and I had ninth row seats to see Heart this past Saturday in Denver.

Great show. Ears still slightly ringing...

345 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:43pm

re: #331 Dianna

I don't know that Chutch owns a semiauto. It wouldn't surprise me.

Really, D -- you've seen this famous pic of him, haven't you?

346 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:53pm

re: #343 Truck Monkey

Or at least something to look at.
; p

It would be both.

347 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:28:53pm

re: #333 NYCHardhat

She might not have a chance. She looks to good in jeans. N.O.W. would go crazy. (which would not be a bad thing) :-)

348 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:29:06pm

re: #344 lobo91

Mrs Lobo and I had ninth row seats to see Heart this past Saturday in Denver.

Great show. Ears still slightly ringing...

Heart is awesome.

349 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:29:14pm

re: #341 Iron Fist

Obama is so far from what we need as a President that I doubt he even knows which ones are supposed to be the easy ones. In his world, the good guys are the ones who bomb the Pentagon.

And the bad guys are the ones who work at the Pentagon.

That has to make things hard on him.

Pile that on top of the whole am-I-black-or-am-I-white-thing, and you know the cognitive dissonance has got to be excruciating.

350 Dianna  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:29:36pm

re: #340 mikalm

I'm not going anywhere near it!

A pity that Ward's going to miss it - he could probably use the speaking fee.

351 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:29:57pm

re: #347 hous bin pharteen

She might not have a chance. She looks to good in jeans. N.O.W. would go crazy. (which would not be a bad thing) :-)

I know, when she was voting, walking around in her tight jeans, I got a little excited.

352 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:30:04pm

re: #329 Jim in Virginia

Is it true the Brits gave it to the White House after 9-11? If so that's even more disturbing.

That's what this article says.

353 Dianna  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:30:11pm

re: #345 mikalm

Really, D -- you've seen this famous pic of him, haven't you?

Yes, it was used for the banner of Pirate Ballerina.

354 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:30:16pm

re: #334 VioletTiger

Either way, it was so rude to hand it back like that. I expected this administration to screw most things up, but I figured they'd get the easy things right.

The flag pin was a small indicator during the campaign. It's a custom, a small symbol, that Obama thought he didn't have to respect by following. His advisers made him wear it, and he went along with it. Now that he "won," he has the power to decide whether or not he's going to do the 'easy things' like following an established protocol which has weight and meaning, or whether he'll just wing it. It looks like he respects his own ability to wing it more than he respects the established traditions that actually work.

355 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:30:40pm

re: #329 Jim in Virginia

Is it true the Brits gave it to the White House after 9-11? If so that's even more disturbing.

"Jewish World Review March 6, 2009 /

Churchill, Obama and Bush

By Diana West

[Link: www.JewishWorldReview.com...] %P% Even before Barack Obama was inaugurated, the question of what to do with the bust of Winston Churchill on display in the Oval Office arose. The valuable bronze by Sir Jacob Epstein had been loaned by the British government to George W. Bush in mid-2001 — before Sept. 11, contrary to recent reports — and had gazed with weary wisdom over the Oval Office ever since. Not that Winnie was alone.
Busts of Lincoln and Eisenhower rounded out the trio of wartime leaders President Bush had chosen to watch over him at work even when the nation was at peace.
The Lincoln bust remains in the Obama Oval Office. I haven't received definitive word on the fate of the Eisenhower bust, but I strongly suspect it's gone. "

356 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:30:50pm

re: #338 avanti

GW was a big Churchill fan, BHO preferred a bust of Lincoln for the oval office.

Yeah, thanks, I was trying to help out someone else there.

357 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:31:07pm

re: #336 tradewind

It's the ' cleanliness is next to Godliness' thing. Not where they wanna be.

I remember a classic Mad Magazine piece from the early 70s on the different characteristics of American political types, illustrated by the monumentally cynical (and talented) George Woodbridge. The first description given under "Leftists" was, "They smell."

358 Truck Monkey  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:31:11pm

re: #350 Dianna

I'm not going anywhere near it!

A pity that Ward's going to miss it - he could probably use the speaking fee.

What Squaw in her right mind would name he little papoose "Ward"?

//

359 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:31:27pm

re: #337 Maui Girl

I agree. I love the new t-shirt I have seen also. One with a bad picture of The One and letters that say "Welcome Back Carter"

360 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:31:56pm

re: #353 Dianna

Yes, it was used for the banner of Pirate Ballerina.

He'll shoot his eye out...


/S

361 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:32:14pm

Belmont Club: Eve of Destruction

Not to harsh anyone's mellow but it's another good, troubling read.

the current financial crisis is reflecting something underlying. ...we might be thankful that the financial system crashed before the geopolitical system did, and not as in the case of the Great War, in the reverse order. To that extent the economic crash foreshadowed tensions which have been building for a long time. ....It’s not the financial system alone that is broken.
362 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:32:18pm
363 victor_yugo  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:32:27pm

re: #349 pink freud

Pile that on top of the whole am-I-black-or-am-I-white-thing, and you know the cognitive dissonance has got to be excruciating.

(fake Michael Jackson smashing windows, dancing on car, sees police officer approaching. He jumps down onto the pavement)

"Tell me, officer, am I black or white?"

"You're under arrest for disturbing the peace."

"Oh, then I must be black!"

The best ever music video parody on MadTV

364 Dianna  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:33:33pm

re: #358 Truck Monkey

What Squaw in her right mind would name he little papoose "Ward"?

//

His mom wasn't particularly Indian/Native American, whatever. There seems to have been a family tradition that they were descended from Native Americans, but it wasn't especially documentable. At least, Pirate Ballerina had the devil's own time with the claim.

365 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:34:01pm

re: #334 VioletTiger

Either way, it was so rude to hand it back like that. I expected this administration to screw most things up, but I figured they'd get the easy things right.

Any gift to the President from another country is actually a gift to the people of the United States.

Not only was it rude to return it, but it was unethical and improper as it was not his to do what he wanted, it was ours - and the return of it was not an inconsequential act.

366 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:34:49pm

re: #324 Gus 802

I'm talking about a very offensive stereotype portrayed in this cartoon I'm remembering- it was really ugly and there was no historical context to it other than at that time Hollywood liked producing "Cowboys and Indians" films and serials at that time. It's not aired these days, and for good reasons.

As for the "loveliness" hollywood produces these days- I hope those days are numbered in that trash will just not be economically viable for the studios to produce. But who knows with them.

367 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:34:54pm

re: #354 jaunte

The flag pin was a small indicator during the campaign. It's a custom, a small symbol, that Obama thought he didn't have to respect by following. His advisers made him wear it, and he went along with it. Now that he "won," he has the power to decide whether or not he's going to do the 'easy things' like following an established protocol which has weight and meaning, or whether he'll just wing it. It looks like he respects his own ability to wing it more than he respects the established traditions that actually work.


I think you are right. He'll do things his way, either thinking he's establishing a new norm or worse, thinking his 'charm' will let him get away with anything. Let's see what happens when the charm wears off. Looks like it has already for the Brits.

368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:35:22pm

I open LGF up, all I see is the headline and the top of the courthouse. Expecting to see the "throngs". Had to scroll down to get the guy.

Great accidental set-up of a punch-line Charles!

Laughed my ass off!

369 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:35:25pm

re: #338 avanti

GW was a big Churchill fan, BHO preferred a bust of Lincoln for the oval office.

not really.
he preferred a carved wooden hand w/ the fingers holding an egg.
i'm betting he liked the idea of it being his hand w/ the world btw his fingers.

370 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:35:53pm

re: #340 mikalm

Watching one of the videos there. Sure exchange a lot of money at that book fare. I thought I would see more IOUs for bartering exchange. No chance.

A thought came across my mind. Anarchy is a means for people to adhere academic ideology for their laziness and inability to become productive members of society.

371 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:35:57pm

re: #365 reine.de.tout

from the article I posted above:

A bust of the former prime minister once voted the greatest Briton in history, which was loaned to George W Bush from the Government's art collection after the September 11 attacks, has now been formally handed back.

Avanti's article says essentially the same thing, although it disputes the time of the loan.

372 mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:35:58pm

If there has to be a Ward Churchill then we need a Winston Cleaver to offset the stupidity.

373 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:36:14pm

re: #337 Maui Girl

Speaking of great bumper stickers... We got 'em in TN....
Image: mortgagestickerwebimage.gif

374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:36:15pm

re: #348 NYCHardhat

Heart is awesome.

Albusteve probably hates them. But, I agree with you.

375 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:37:24pm

re: #374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Albusteve probably hates them. But, I agree with you.

Perry-the-winkle, my boy!

376 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:37:33pm

re: #370 Gus 802

A thought came across my mind. Anarchy is a means for people to adhere academic ideology for their laziness and inability to become productive members of society.

I would play my guitar, but I'm an anarchist so I broke it.

377 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:37:51pm

re: #359 hous bin pharteen

I agree. I love the new t-shirt I have seen also. One with a bad picture of The One and letters that say "Welcome Back Carter"

Used to be my avatar.

378 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:37:52pm

re: #361 Jim in Virginia

Belmont Club: Eve of Destruction

Not to harsh anyone's mellow but it's another good, troubling read.

379 jamgarr  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:11pm

re: #376 jaunte

I would play my guitar, but I'm an anarchist so I broke it.

You're an entropist.

380 midwestgak  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:47pm

Bulls vs MIA double overtime. OOOMMPAA

381 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:52pm

re: #375 OldLineTexan

Perry-the-winkle, my boy!

Do WHAT to your governor?

382 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:38:54pm

re: #379 jamgarr

I do like bugs.

383 victor_yugo  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:39:00pm

re: #368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Great accidental set-up of a punch-line Charles!

"Accidental"?

384 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:39:02pm

re: #376 jaunte

I would play my guitar, but I'm an anarchist so I broke it.

Yeah man like wow man. If you collect enough wood chips you can make some airplane wings with some hemp glue. Yeah man.

//

385 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:39:52pm

re: #380 midwestgak

Bulls vs MIA double overtime. OOOMMPAA

Oh crap! I'm watching the Zags destroy St. Mary's..Channel surfing...now!

386 midwestgak  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:12pm

re: #385 HoosierHoops

Oh crap! I'm watching the Zags destroy St. Mary's..Channel surfing...now!

WGN

387 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:35pm

re: #370 Gus 802

A thought came across my mind. Anarchy is a means for people to adhere academic ideology for their laziness and inability to become productive members of society.

A while back, on another thread, I observed that pretty much every wimpy, nerdy social reject I ever knew became (for awhile) either 1) a communist; or 2) a Nazi/white-power type. When you identify with a radical, violent ideology, it enhances your "intellectual" credentials, while allowing you to take on a tough-guy image without ever having to, say, fight in a genuine street battle. Truly a win-win for the alienated young moonbat...

388 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:40:35pm

re: #366 Sharmuta

OK :)

389 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:41:48pm

re: #383 victor_yugo

"Accidental"?

Yeah. It is because of the settings on my (alone) computer. Couldn't see anything below the roof-line below the headline.

I had to scroll down. I'm sure he didn't set it up just for me.

or did he?....

390 mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:42:11pm

re: #374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Heart is still touring? I wonder if they have a few yucks about Sarah Palin before they play Barracuda.

391 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:42:39pm

re: #365 reine.de.tout

Any gift to the President from another country is actually a gift to the people of the United States.

Not only was it rude to return it, but it was unethical and improper as it was not his to do what he wanted, it was ours - and the return of it was not an inconsequential act.

It was not a gift to the American people or even to GW. It was loaned to GW because he was fan, GW left, and it was returned. The Britts did offer to extend the loan, but BHO declined, end of that story. BTW, GW could not have kept it even if it was a gift since it was well over the $180 gift limit. The CD collection gift to Brown by the American Film Institute was a bit chezzy though.

392 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:43:30pm

re: #361 Jim in Virginia

It has happened everywhere. Some finance companies got money by writing the loans, then selling them pretty quick. They then had the profit without having the risk. In the old days, your local bank or credit union made the loan and kept it with the risk. It was sound, intelligent, business practice. But it did not go well with libs. How can I keep the mortgage payment and have less money for TV,s. stereo systems, heroin, and pot!

393 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:43:57pm

re: #388 Gus 802

And I'm not one of those PC types- the cartoon I'm talking about really was that bad- to the point that I wouldn't air it on TV either. It would be nice if it was available, however, just so that it could be pointed out as an example of bad stereotyping.

394 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:44:04pm

What's new pussycat? The dolphin who made friends with a curious tiger


[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:44:28pm

Not that I don't love y'all and all, but today I washed and line dried the sheets, comforters and blankets..ran the pillows through a nice low heat setting/fluffed them up today.

Bed is gonna be gooooooood.

G'night!

396 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:45:10pm

re: #391 avanti

It was not a gift to the American people or even to GW. It was loaned to GW because he was fan, GW left, and it was returned. The Britts did offer to extend the loan, but BHO declined, end of that story. BTW, GW could not have kept it even if it was a gift since it was well over the $180 gift limit. The CD collection gift to Brown by the American Film Institute was a bit chezzy though.

BHO is still a pompous ass.

397 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:45:55pm

Ah, memories:

A House investigative panel reported yesterday that former president Bill Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton took with them at least $362,000 in gifts worth $260 or more when Bill Clinton left office, and asserted that the former first family may have undervalued dozens of gifts, some in a possible attempt to avoid disclosure.
[Link: www.encyclopedia.com...]
398 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:46:14pm

It's been real, Lizards. See ya's later!

399 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:46:14pm

re: #395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Line dried sheets. Delicious. Goodnght :-)

400 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:46:16pm

Good Evening all. I am writing to ask that if any of you have the time. Please send a letter of disapproval to Saturday Night Live for their portrayal of RNC Chairman Michael Steele on Saturday.

401 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:44pm

We need a good more ten years of real life experience on these Gen Y children of the hippies before they begin to even recognize the light.

402 Racer X  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:45pm

re: #400 Afrocity

Good Evening all. I am writing to ask that if any of you have the time. Please send a letter of disapproval to Saturday Night Live for their portrayal of RNC Chairman Michael Steele on Saturday.

What is this "Saturday Night Live"?

Does not ring a bell.

403 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:47:57pm

re: #387 mikalm

I can see that. It's a method for "masculinizing" an otherwise ordinary pseudo-intellectual. In certain circles it is strongly emphasized to study "alternative" political structure to bolster their peer acceptance. Usually they have leader in their packs which include "big momma" type, college professors, authors, etc. Of course what follows is a long course of the perpetual student with a mountain of student loans and if they're lucky, grants. Also what follows is a strong of unemployment benefits and/or disability claims.

Now that makes me think about Obama's talk about "free college" which will only feed into this subculture. Thus I could see that working people will sustain this sub-culture. The college-welfare state citizenry may soon be around the corner.

404 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:05pm

re: #400 Afrocity

I get it, but if you send a letter of protest to SNL, a subsidiary of NBC, and Tina Fey's pet project, they will take it as proof that they're doing a great job.

405 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:30pm

re: #396 pink freud

But he is a CELEBRITY pompous ass!

406 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:43pm

re: #394 Dustyvet

What's new pussycat? The dolphin who made friends with a curious tiger


[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]


Cute!

407 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:54pm
408 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:48:55pm

re: #391 avanti

It was not a gift to the American people or even to GW. It was loaned to GW because he was fan, GW left, and it was returned. The Britts did offer to extend the loan, but BHO declined, end of that story. BTW, GW could not have kept it even if it was a gift since it was well over the $180 gift limit. The CD collection gift to Brown by the American Film Institute was a bit chezzy though.

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT.

409 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:49:01pm

re: #400 Afrocity

Good Evening all. I am writing to ask that if any of you have the time. Please send a letter of disapproval to Saturday Night Live for their portrayal of RNC Chairman Michael Steele on Saturday.

{afrocity} good evening

410 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:49:01pm

re: #400 Afrocity

Good Evening all. I am writing to ask that if any of you have the time. Please send a letter of disapproval to Saturday Night Live for their portrayal of RNC Chairman Michael Steele on Saturday.

I didn't see it, but I found it on Youtube. I'll take your suggestion.

411 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:49:42pm

re: #393 Sharmuta

I know what you mean. Even if one were to think it was OK you have to consider as you mentioned the TV station involved and the mountain of protests which would follow. That's no way to run a business and they would find themselves spending tens of thousand of dollars in legal fees and potential legal action. More or less.

412 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:49:44pm

re: #400 Afrocity

Good Evening all. I am writing to ask that if any of you have the time. Please send a letter of disapproval to Saturday Night Live for their portrayal of RNC Chairman Michael Steele on Saturday.

Good luck with that. The left is absolutely merciless on minorities who don't drink their poison (see Palin, and now Steele). They recognize these folks as the antidote and they hate them with a fervor.

413 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:50:19pm

re: #396 pink freud

BHO is still a pompous ass.

I learned not to dispute opinions like that on politicians , that's up to the voters to judge.

414 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:50:49pm
415 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:50:59pm

re: #400 Afrocity

Good Evening all. I am writing to ask that if any of you have the time. Please send a letter of disapproval to Saturday Night Live for their portrayal of RNC Chairman Michael Steele on Saturday.

In a previous thread, Dustyvet posted a video of a disturbing encounter between one of you aldermen and a fellow resident.

I'll find it.

416 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:51:09pm

re: #400 Afrocity

Good Evening all. I am writing to ask that if any of you have the time. Please send a letter of disapproval to Saturday Night Live for their portrayal of RNC Chairman Michael Steele on Saturday.

Here's a link...I got pissed 8 seconds after he appeared....

417 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:52:04pm

re: #390 mich-again

Heart is still touring? I wonder if they have a few yucks about Sarah Palin before they play Barracuda.

They didn't say anything about it when I saw them Saturday night in Denver.

That thought did cross my mind, though.

418 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:52:16pm

re: #403 Gus 802

I can see that. It's a method for "masculinizing" an otherwise ordinary pseudo-intellectual. In certain circles it is strongly emphasized to study "alternative" political structure to bolster their peer acceptance. Usually they have leader in their packs which include "big momma" type, college professors, authors, etc. Of course what follows is a long course of the perpetual student with a mountain of student loans and if they're lucky, grants. Also what follows is a strong of unemployment benefits and/or disability claims.

Now that makes me think about Obama's talk about "free college" which will only feed into this subculture. Thus I could see that working people will sustain this sub-culture. The college-welfare state citizenry may soon be around the corner.

They demand that The Man pay for schooling in which they learn to hate The Man and plot to steal all his money. Reasoning no more sound than a tapeworm and yet they consider themselves "intellectuals."

/Puke

419 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:52:29pm

re: #403 Gus 802

It is a long change when you used to get government funding when you were trained to kill people and break things.

420 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:52:34pm

Good evening!

How is Lizard Nation tonight?

421 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:16pm

re: #410 jaunte

Didn't bother me much. The most offensive thing was just lack of funny jokes.

422 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:50pm

Well Lizards I am pissed at Adobe. I spent a whole bunch of bucks to upgrade from Web Premium CS3 to Web Premium CS4 and now they have taken the Hebrew graphics (RTL language support) out of Fireworks, which existed in all previous versions I have used.

Fortunately I still have CS3 installed, but FUCK Adobe. BTW this missing functionality also affects Arabic language users, I'm sure Adobe will be hearing from them soon.

423 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:53:54pm

re: #413 avanti

Wow. Must have taken a ton of post-doc work to acquire that nuanced and discerning an education.
/Or not/.

424 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:00pm

That SNL portrayal of Steele is inaccurate. I understand humor being made out of something that is grounded in truth. The skit portrays Steele as some sort of controlled "Uncle Tom" shill for El Rushbo. I was offended.

425 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:01pm

re: #413 avanti

I learned not to dispute opinions like that on politicians , that's up to the voters to judge.

Oh, I'm not speaking for the voters, I'm speaking for me.

The voters have proven they're idiots.

426 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:07pm

re: #391 avanti

It was not a gift to the American people or even to GW. It was loaned to GW because he was fan, GW left, and it was returned.

I wonder who would be willing to loan 0bama a bust of Karl Marx.

427 jamgarr  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:13pm

re: #421 Killgore Trout

Didn't bother me much. The most offensive thing was just lack of funny jokes.


I'm with you there KT - just seemed like unfunny parody to me.

428 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:15pm

re: #381 MandyManners

Do WHAT to your governor?

Oh no, no, no, no.

That's Gov. Goodhair.

I never call him anything else.

FBV and I were sharing a literary moment.

429 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:54:23pm

re: #421 Killgore Trout

Didn't bother me much. The most offensive thing was just lack of funny jokes.

If that's your yardstick, SNL has been offensive for quite a while now!

430 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:55:30pm

re: #418 JohnAdams

Straight out of Rules for Radicals by Alinsky.

431 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:55:41pm

re: #421 Killgore Trout

The whole 'Limbaugh controls the Republican party' thought behind it is just dumb, so it made a bad platform to create anything funny. If it was true, it would have been funnier.

432 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:55:47pm

re: #400 Afrocity

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

433 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:55:50pm

re: #418 JohnAdams

Tapeworm is an apt description. They used to say that of people that just kept eating. I can see a lot of people taking up the college-welfare route. Once in they'll keep milking the system by deliberately delaying their graduation. They would have to be under some kind of guidelines but that's not how colleges work since students, sometimes any student, means more money for the school.

434 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:56:31pm

re: #426 Sharmuta

I wonder who would be willing to loan 0bama a bust of Karl Marx.

Castro'll probably bring one when he comes for his sleepover in the Lincoln bedroom.

435 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:56:35pm

re: #421 Killgore Trout

Hey, thats where my name came from!
(I am a silent, but deadly killer. Beware if you work at a baked bean factory)

436 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:56:41pm

re: #426 Sharmuta

He's got the Che T-shirt. His street cred is secure.

437 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:57:31pm

re: #420 SteveC

Good evening!

How is Lizard Nation tonight?

Speaking for myself, I'm fuckingAwonderful.

How's about you?

438 jorline  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:57:33pm

re: #422 Alouette

Well Lizards I am pissed at Adobe. I spent a whole bunch of bucks to upgrade from Web Premium CS3 to Web Premium CS4 and now they have taken the Hebrew graphics (RTL language support) out of Fireworks, which existed in all previous versions I have used.

Fortunately I still have CS3 installed, but FUCK Adobe. BTW this missing functionality also affects Arabic language users, I'm sure Adobe will be hearing from them soon.

Hi, Alouette...try some C4 on the CS3.

439 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:05pm

re: #431 jaunte

If it was true, it would have been funnier.


I don't know. There's talk of him being replaced in part because of his Limbaugh remarks. Now that's offensive.

440 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:58:34pm

re: #432 MandyManners

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Yes, I saw that. Munoz is a scum bag. You should see the video by the Chicago Hispanics entitled "What did Obama do for us?"

441 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:10pm

re: #326 Dianna

He's over 60 now, and he hasn't slowed down his puffing that I've noticed. I have a feeling that, like Ghengis Khan, he was born in a rat year, and will live to a ripe old age.

L'havdil (a Hebrew phrase, that means "not to mention them in the same breath", but check THIS dude out. Speaking of someone who probably smoked and drank like a fish, and had, er, other life-shortening things going on around him...)

442 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:24pm

re: #437 MandyManners

Speaking for myself, I'm fuckingAwonderful.

How's about you?

It's been a good day by being exceedingly average. No thrill a minute events of any kind, just a smoooooooooth day!

443 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:26pm

I'll make a bust of Karl Marx tomorrow morning, at about 6:15.

444 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 7:59:45pm

re: #437 MandyManners

And commenting here at the same time? Either you're super good at multi-tasking, or this A. Wonderful feller isn't good at holding your attention.

/sorry, couldn't resist.

445 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:00:36pm

re: #357 mikalm

If the lack of soap doesn't gag you, the patchouli will.

446 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:00:45pm

re: #400 Afrocity

Good Evening all. I am writing to ask that if any of you have the time. Please send a letter of disapproval to Saturday Night Live for their portrayal of RNC Chairman Michael Steele on Saturday.

Good luck. SNL will never mock obama. The show is Air America for late-night TV.

447 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:03pm

re: #410 jaunte

Didn't sound like the audience found it humorous or entertaining. With the numerous "government spending is out of control" lines- I have to wonder if that might have actually made a few people think. It's hard to deny the truth of that "joke".

448 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:22pm

damn I missed Bela...cleaning girls always have to be watched

449 Sheepdogess  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:32pm

re: #382 jaunte

I love bugs.

450 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:38pm

What do you call a bow and arrows that don't work? ... Sticks.

What do you call a professor that hates? ... A waste of time.

451 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:43pm

re: #437 MandyManners

Speaking for myself, I'm fuckingAwonderful.

How's about you?

I have 77+ replies to that post..And I will not even venture there.
/your story in the cookbook at the gas station is side splitting Mandy!

452 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:01:59pm

re: #445 tradewind

If the lack of soap doesn't gag you, the patchouli will.

Don't forget the clove cigaret odor.

453 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:02:14pm

re: #448 albusteve

damn I missed Bela...cleaning girls always have to be watched

That's where my college ring went ... to a cleaning crew at a rental house I was moving out of.

454 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:02:28pm

re: #444 Slumbering Behemoth

And commenting here at the same time? Either you're super good at multi-tasking, or this A. Wonderful feller isn't good at holding your attention.

/sorry, couldn't resist.

Mandy's got moves that would floor a Level Four Grandmaster!

455 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:02:54pm

re: #453 OldLineTexan

That's where my college ring went ... to a cleaning crew at a rental house I was moving out of.

you shoulda paid cash :)

456 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:02:58pm

re: #447 Sharmuta

Didn't sound like the audience found it humorous or entertaining. With the numerous "government spending is out of control" lines- I have to wonder if that might have actually made a few people think. It's hard to deny the truth of that "joke".

That was painful to watch.

I guess I haven't missed much by not watching SNL for about the past 28 years or so...

457 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:06pm

re: #416 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here's a link...I got pissed 8 seconds after he appeared....

I felt the same discomfort with the Treasury Secretary skit.

Satire that pokes at both sides will piss off 100% of the viewers.

458 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:10pm

re: #439 Killgore Trout

I don't know. There's talk of him being replaced in part because of his Limbaugh remarks. Now that's offensive.

I see by this Roger Simon piece that losing elections doesn't matter yet to some purists:
[Link: www.politico.com...]

459 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:36pm

re: #455 albusteve

you shoulda paid cash :)

I should have put the damned thing in my pocket. Thieves.

460 Sheepdogess  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:46pm

re: #424 Afrocity

That SNL portrayal of Steele is inaccurate. I understand humor being made out of something that is grounded in truth. The skit portrays Steele as some sort of controlled "Uncle Tom" shill for El Rushbo. I was offended.

SNL is and always has been offensive. We just grew up.

461 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:52pm

re: #449 Sheepdogess

I love bugs.

You must be an entropist, too!

462 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:03:58pm

re: #431 jaunte

The whole 'Limbaugh controls the Republican party' thought behind it is just dumb, so it made a bad platform to create anything funny. If it was true, it would have been funnier.

Limbaugh is the loudest, clearest and oldest voice of the opposition.

463 Zimriel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:06pm

The One is unleashing his Bolivaran Brigades on behalf of his budget: "forwarding this pledge by email, by knocking on doors and by making phone call".

(Hooray for getting knocks on the door during suppertime from a couple of thugs with a clipboard! Hope!)

"The bad news is that as a result the special interests and the old habits in Washington will dig in even more.

"It's up to you to make sure that they don't stand in our way.

"By pledging and building support you will be taking the first steps towards establishing a nationwide grassroots network, neighborhood by neighborhood, standing side by side with President Obama as we bring about our agenda for change.

how did it ever come to this /theoden

464 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:10pm

re: #354 jaunte

The flag pin was a small indicator during the campaign. It's a custom, a small symbol, that Obama thought he didn't have to respect by following.

It's not a custom, it's a trend, and one that by me got blown ridiculously out of proportion. We have bigger things to worry about during a major election than the candidate's tie tacks.

465 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:14pm

George Galloways first speech in Gaza. He announces that all the aid will be handed to the leader of Hamas. I'm sure it will be distributed fairly among the most needy - that's what Hamas do isn't it?

466 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:31pm

re: #454 SteveC

Mandy's got moves that would floor a Level Four Grandmaster!

Chess Thread!
/What?

467 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:43pm

re: #454 SteveC

*THUD*

468 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:04:59pm

Speaking of Limbaugh...

this is great:

To put it more forcefully, it is a fact of language that once you surrender the grounds for meaning to those who would presume to determine your meaning for you, you are at their mercy. Nowhere is this more clear than with Britain’s new definition of racism, whereby racism is determined not by the actions of those purported to cause it, but rather by the feelings of the person who claims to be its victim. Frighteningly, such is a formulation Ms. Obama seems to share. And this is not a road we should be heading down, because at the end of that road lies meaning as determined by “interpretive communities,” which in political terms equates to particular interest groups. And that way lies totalitarianism and, to borrow from both G.B. Shaw and Jonah Goldberg, “liberal fascism.”

snip...

To which I reply, pragmatism is fine. But why not use our idealism pragmatically — which is to say, why not make it our strategy to use idealism as our cudgel against the media and the left in such a way that their tactic of misrepresentation and outrage no longer pays dividends? Why not make it our strategy to destroy their tactics — and in so doing, reaffirm the very principles at the heart of classical liberalism?

469 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:05:04pm

re: #400 Afrocity

Good Evening all. I am writing to ask that if any of you have the time. Please send a letter of disapproval to Saturday Night Live for their portrayal of RNC Chairman Michael Steele on Saturday.

I love you, but I don't think it rises to the level of protest. Not funny? YUP (but when was the last time SNL was? Hell, I didn't even know it was still on the air until that entire Sara Palin parody).

just one ole mans humble opinion

470 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:05:10pm

re: #465 Jimmah

George Galloways first speech in Gaza. He announces that all the aid will be handed to the leader of Hamas. I'm sure it will be distributed fairly among the most needy - that's what Hamas do isn't it?

Needs more rocks.

471 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:05:41pm

re: #456 lobo91

That was painful to watch.

I guess I haven't missed much by not watching SNL for about the past 28 years or so...

It wasn't funny in the slightest, and it's counterproductive for liberals to make "jokes" about republicans saying government spending is out of control. I urge SNL to continue to portray republicans as fiscal hawks.

472 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:25pm

re: #459 OldLineTexan

I should have put the damned thing in my pocket. Thieves.

sorry to joke on it...college is a black hole of slipsters, opportunists and liars...and thats only the profs

473 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:06:51pm

re: #472 albusteve

sorry to joke on it...college is a black hole of slipsters, opportunists and liars...and thats only the profs

This was years after.

474 Olderthandirt  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:07:29pm

Jeez, can't a Denver Liziod appear and at least stand near this lone Churchill supporter, at least to provide some human warmth and companionship even if simply to shout down this Churchill stooge!

Jeez, where's the famed Lizard warmth and cup of human kindness? How could you all like to be standing there all by yourself when others could come come forth and hector you for your loneliness and weirdness.

If a Liziod did appear there in Denver, then it could become a TV event, showing how gracious and understanding we Lizard followers are. That would be a great moment on TV.

475 Optimizer  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:07:47pm

re: #22 Zimriel

I'm pretty sure that guy is zombie playing a prank.

Shhhhhhh!

476 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:07:49pm

re: #449 Sheepdogess

I love bugs.

Gil?

477 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:07:58pm

re: #463 Zimriel

I will have to ask my 0bama loving auntie if she's going to door knock to gain supporters for her beloved 0bama so he can raise her taxes which she hates paying. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch.

478 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:00pm

re: #338 avanti

GW was a big Churchill fan, BHO preferred a bust of Lincoln for the oval office.

BHO probably wanted to replace the Winston Churchill bust with one of Ward Churchill but figured it would fly like a brick.

479 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:08:01pm

re: #473 OldLineTexan

This was years after.

bummer...really

480 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:09:02pm

re: #440 Afrocity

Yes, I saw that. Munoz is a scum bag. You should see the video by the Chicago Hispanics entitled "What did Obama do for us?"

Maybe I'm ignorant of such things as Identity Politics but, this is abhorent behavior from an alderman.

481 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:09:21pm

re: #458 jaunte


. Victory is secondary to ideological purity.


That seems to be a common theme these days. Doesn't bother me much if Republicans don't want my vote.

482 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:09:45pm

re: #464 SanFranciscoZionist

It's not a custom, it's a trend, and one that by me got blown ridiculously out of proportion. We have bigger things to worry about during a major election than the candidate's tie tacks.

Maybe I chose a bad example as an illustration, but the point was that Obama doesn't respect protocols that make others comfortable. I think it's because he thinks (with little supporting evidence) his ideas are better than those that came before.

483 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:09:51pm

re: #448 albusteve

damn I missed Bela...cleaning girls always have to be watched

here are some to watch! ;)
[Link: cnews.canoe.ca...]

484 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:10:57pm

This is news? I don't think so.
[Link: newsbusters.org...]

485 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:11:35pm

re: #481 Killgore Trout

That seems to be a common theme these days. Doesn't bother me much if Republicans don't want my vote.

rebublicans are the device that carries the conservative torch...if they neglect me they will not get my paltry donation or my vote...it's happened before...I hear you

486 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:11:45pm

re: #439 Killgore Trout

I don't know. There's talk of him being replaced in part because of his Limbaugh remarks. Now that's offensive.

If the GOP dumps Steele for trying to stand up to Rush, Rush's ego will grow even bigger. He'll decide who he wants to run, and if he disapproves, he'll kill their chances.

487 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:12:07pm

re: #480 MandyManners

Maybe I'm ignorant of such things as Identity Politics but, this is abhorent behavior from an alderman.

nuf' said

488 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:12:35pm

re: #481 Killgore Trout

That seems to be a common theme these days. Doesn't bother me much if Republicans don't want my vote.

Vote for Me! I'll set you free!

489 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:12:38pm

re: #483 ziggyelman

here are some to watch! ;)
[Link: cnews.canoe.ca...]

heh...nice

490 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:12:42pm

re: #477 Sharmuta

But, but, but... I thought unicorns were supposed to be pretty, and kind. Why is this one taking all my monies and pooping in garden?!?

/not the unicorn I thought I was getting

491 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:23pm

re: #486 avanti

If the GOP dumps Steele for trying to stand up to Rush, Rush's ego will grow even bigger. He'll decide who he wants to run, and if he disapproves, he'll kill their chances.

Did he in 2008? 2004? 2000? EVER ,, ANYWHERE !?!?!?!?!

geeez Louise !

492 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:34pm

re: #486 avanti

I wouldn't say he had a lot of influence in picking the '08 GOP nominee.

493 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:13:38pm

re: #433 Gus 802

Tapeworm is an apt description. They used to say that of people that just kept eating. I can see a lot of people taking up the college-welfare route. Once in they'll keep milking the system by deliberately delaying their graduation. They would have to be under some kind of guidelines but that's not how colleges work since students, sometimes any student, means more money for the school.

You apply the same thought process to health care and it will result in the same. Perpetually "ill" people who cannot be cured by an overtaxed and dispirited health care industry, despite a limitless supply of cash thrown in the gaping hole.

The left always believes that there is an unlimited supply of funds and that they know what to do with it. Both are so tragically untrue that it would be funny if you weren't a human too.

494 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:14:15pm

re: #486 avanti

If the GOP dumps Steele for trying to stand up to Rush, Rush's ego will grow even bigger. He'll decide who he wants to run, and if he disapproves, he'll kill their chances.

bullshit...where do you get this stuff?

495 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:14:18pm

re: #486 avanti

If the GOP dumps Steele for trying to stand up to Rush, Rush's ego will grow even bigger. He'll decide who he wants to run, and if he disapproves, he'll kill their chances.

Rush is CNN, ABC, CBS, etc.?

Wow.

/Seriously, the media already decided who YOU liked

496 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:14:34pm

re: #471 Sharmuta

It wasn't funny in the slightest, and it's counterproductive for liberals to make "jokes" about republicans saying government spending is out of control. I urge SNL to continue to portray republicans as fiscal hawks.

I sometimes really enjoy SNL skits, and sometimes they're just a. gross, b. racist, or c. completely miss the mark.

Is it them or Mad TV that does the Depressed Persian Tow Truck Man? Those qualify as all of the above.

497 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:14:55pm

re: #492 tradewind

I wouldn't say he had a lot of influence in picking the '08 GOP nominee.

No kidding. Suddenly he's all-powerful. I smell a campaign.

498 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:15:02pm

re: #486 avanti

If the GOP dumps Steele for trying to stand up to Rush, Rush's ego will grow even bigger. He'll decide who he wants to run, and if he disapproves, he'll kill their chances.

The party build around the idea that you can build yourself up, improve your own lot in life, and make your own way having to seek approval to run? Order the flowers and buy a coffin. GAME OVER.

499 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:15:09pm

re: #469 sattv4u2

I love you, but I don't think it rises to the level of protest. Not funny? YUP (but when was the last time SNL was? Hell, I didn't even know it was still on the air until that entire Sara Palin parody).

just one ole mans humble opinion

I think SNL has a leftist agenda & makes fun of whatever and whomever they want in order to advance their agenda. I would not object if Obama was equally criticized or parodied, but he is not.

As far as the Steele skit, I understand that Keenan Thompson- the "brutha" playing him gets little airtime,the he is the "token" of this class of not ready for prime time players, that he is too fat and dark complexioned to play Obama. I understand that he has to find something to do while he is waiting for that sequel to Fat Albert, so he just prays for an African American that is not Obama and not a democrat to portray so he can get some airtime. Too bad he had to belittle himself by taking cheap shots at Michael Steele.

Hey, Hey Hey

500 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:15:10pm

re: #493 JohnAdams

You apply the same thought process to health care and it will result in the same. Perpetually "ill" people who cannot be cured by an overtaxed and dispirited health care industry, despite a limitless supply of cash thrown in the gaping hole.

The left always believes that there is an unlimited supply of funds and that they know what to do with it. Both are so tragically untrue that it would be funny if you weren't a human too.

You always get more of whatever you subsidize. Geeze how many times I gotta say that!

501 Racer X  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:15:30pm

re: #198 DistantThunder

The American Form of Government- excellent - and short video

Wow.

Had to watch it twice. Powerful message.

Thanks,

502 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:15:48pm

re: #488 Mich-again

Ok.

503 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:16:23pm

re: #497 OldLineTexan

I was understating it, to say the least.

504 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:16:27pm

re: #499 Afrocity

I still wuv ya, though!

:)

505 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:16:36pm

re: #481 Killgore Trout

That seems to be a common theme these days. Doesn't bother me much if Republicans don't want my vote.

Ah feel yore pain. The Dems haven't wanted mine EVER.

506 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:16:55pm

re: #486 avanti

If the GOP dumps Steele for trying to stand up to Rush, Rush's ego will grow even bigger. He'll decide who he wants to run, and if he disapproves, he'll kill their chances.

Do you write this shit or just hire a kid in the basement to do your dirty work?
From the premises to conclusion That was lame

507 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:30pm

re: #506 HoosierHoops

Do you write this shit or just hire a kid in the basement to do your dirty work?
From the premises to conclusion That was lame

Very Lame...

508 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:35pm

re: #482 jaunte

Maybe I chose a bad example as an illustration, but the point was that Obama doesn't respect protocols that make others comfortable. I think it's because he thinks (with little supporting evidence) his ideas are better than those that came before.

Oh, I think you're probably right about his approach, based on all this craziness with the Brits. The flag pin 'controversy' made me slightly crazy, for some reason. 'Ats all.

509 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:17:51pm

re: #493 JohnAdams

You apply the same thought process to health care and it will result in the same. Perpetually "ill" people who cannot be cured by an overtaxed and dispirited health care industry, despite a limitless supply of cash thrown in the gaping hole.

The left always believes that there is an unlimited supply of funds and that they know what to do with it. Both are so tragically untrue that it would be funny if you weren't a human too.

That's something I've pondered. With a supposed "free" health care system it will be flooded with millions of acute non-life threatening illnesses such as the common cold, flu, minor allergies, headaches, stomach aches, etc. People will no longer have the incentive or wherewithal to ride these minor aches out and easily tax the health care system by the millions on a daily basis.

510 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:18:07pm

re: #486 avanti

Happy to contribute to your crusade for karma.

511 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:18:08pm

re: #499 Afrocity

It's not just SNL, Hon. It's all of the hollywood entertainment industry as well as the vast majority of the msm. Complaining is a waste of time. Turn it off and don't go back because the bottom line is the only way to deal with these people.

512 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:18:43pm

re: #491 sattv4u2

Did he in 2008? 2004? 2000? EVER ,, ANYWHERE !?!?!?!?!

geeez Louise !

Good point.

/krispy kreme overload? ;-)

513 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:18:47pm

so avanti...who do you like in the Super Bowl this year?...have a winner?

514 NamDoc67  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:18:48pm

Metaphor for our times & Change You Can Really Believe In:
the Churchill bust taken from the Oval Office will be replaced by a Ward Churchill poster.

515 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:18:57pm

re: #491 sattv4u2

Did he in 2008? 2004? 2000? EVER ,, ANYWHERE !?!?!?!?!

geeez Louise !

I was thinking of what he did to McCain. As I recall, he approved of GW's selection. Not a ditto head, so my perception could be wrong, but his attacks on Steele are not helpful IMHO.

516 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:08pm

re: #506 HoosierHoops

It's one of two things: an overactive devil's advocate complex, or.........
time for a GAZE.

517 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:16pm

re: #371 OldLineTexan

from the article I posted above:

Avanti's article says essentially the same thing, although it disputes the time of the loan.

Yes, and I saw a different article (will try to find it) indicating that that it was sort of a permanent loan, and the return of the item was done in such a manner that the UK diplomats were flabbergasted and didn't know quite what to do - I'll try to find it.

518 ladycatnip  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:19:53pm

#482 jaunte

Maybe I chose a bad example as an illustration, but the point was that Obama doesn't respect protocols that make others comfortable. I think it's because he thinks (with little supporting evidence) his ideas are better than those that came before.

He doesn't respect protocols because he's a narcissist.

519 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:05pm

re: #515 avanti

I was thinking of what he did to McCain. As I recall, he approved of GW's selection. Not a ditto head, so my perception could be wrong, but his attacks on Steele are not helpful IMHO.


no ,, he didn't initially in 2000.

520 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:35pm

re: #517 reine.de.tout

Yes, and I saw a different article (will try to find it) indicating that that it was sort of a permanent loan, and the return of the item was done in such a manner that the UK diplomats were flabbergasted and didn't know quite what to do - I'll try to find it.

I just can't call that a gift if they don't. However, I have seen hints of flabbergastment from the Brits.

521 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:44pm

re: #512 pink freud

Good point.

/krispy kreme overload? ;-)

There's still some here , but they aren't warm anymore!

WWAAAAHHHHH

522 Racer X  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:20:58pm

Obama is in way over his head. Everyone knows it.

523 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:18pm

re: #486 avanti

If the GOP dumps Steele for trying to stand up to Rush, Rush's ego will grow even bigger. He'll decide who he wants to run, and if he disapproves, he'll kill their chances.

You are one pathetic asshole.

EVER HEARED OF GEORGE SOROS?

524 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:19pm

re: #500 Mich-again

You always get more of whatever you subsidize. Geeze how many times I gotta say that!

You can't ever stop, and even that may not be enough!

525 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:20pm

re: #511 Sharmuta

Turn it off and don't go back because the bottom line is the only way to deal with these people.

I have not watched TV for anything other than Reno 911, Discovery Channel or Red Wing games for weeks if not months. I stay informed through the net. There is not a single person on TV news worthy of watching even for 3 minutes unless you can't read as fast as a talking head can talk.

526 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:22pm

re: #522 Racer X

Obama is in way over his head. Everyone knows it.

Obama doesn't know it.

527 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:30pm

re: #511 Sharmuta

You betcha. They're totally convinced they elected BHO, and they're still patting themselves on the back, every week/

528 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:48pm

re: #458 jaunte

I see by this Roger Simon piece that losing elections doesn't matter yet to some purists:
[Link: www.politico.com...]

Some of those numbers make me wonder if a third party/independent candidate isn't viable in this political climate.

529 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:48pm

re: #493 JohnAdams

You apply the same thought process to health care and it will result in the same. Perpetually "ill" people who cannot be cured by an overtaxed and dispirited health care industry, despite a limitless supply of cash thrown in the gaping hole.

You'll have three kinds of people: 1) The average folk, who see the doctor when they need a doctor; 2) The legitimate chronically ill, who have long term illnesses that require daily medication, frequent monitoring, and sometimes hospitalization; and 3) The people who think FREE=MORE, who twist their ankle but demand an X-Ray, bone scan, and MRI before they can be convinced that all they need is aspirin and an icepack.

Dollars to doughnuts that group 3 drains the money pool.

530 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:21:51pm

re: #507 Dustyvet

Very Lame...

/You do realize I just caught you using the word Lame in an incomplete sentence Don't you? just wait Till I tell the goddess.. LOL
Regards dusty

531 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:00pm

I'm still here. Been doing a lot of deep cleaning around the apartment, those little things that you don't get to every week.

Having fun.

532 midwestgak  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:15pm

re: #517 reine.de.tout

{reine} Congrats on your +10,000

533 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:25pm

re: #506 HoosierHoops

Do you write this shit or just hire a kid in the basement to do your dirty work?
From the premises to conclusion That was lame

I can only share my feeling. I think Rush is full of himself, and wields too much power. It's really none of my business if conservatives think he's a asset, but I don't see it. He is very popular to the base, but that's about it.

534 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:22:25pm

re: #515 avanti

Next time you have the URGE to share a thought ,,, suppress it !


Krimy

535 Racer X  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:23:00pm

Yep. He is exceeding my expectations alright.

536 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:23:05pm

re: #525 Mich-again

I've only turned on the boobtube for a few speeches and a little sports. Other than that- I'm really done with it. I get most of my news and entertainment online.

537 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:24:11pm

re: #509 Gus 802

That's something I've pondered. With a supposed "free" health care system it will be flooded with millions of acute non-life threatening illnesses such as the common cold, flu, minor allergies, headaches, stomach aches, etc. People will no longer have the incentive or wherewithal to ride these minor aches out and easily tax the health care system by the millions on a daily basis.

I have Kaiser, and for a low co-pay (affordable) I could go in constantly, but I don't. I realize there are hypochondriacs out there, but I don't know if that would be a major problem.

538 JohnAdams  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:24:34pm

re: #509 Gus 802

That's something I've pondered. With a supposed "free" health care system it will be flooded with millions of acute non-life threatening illnesses such as the common cold, flu, minor allergies, headaches, stomach aches, etc. People will no longer have the incentive or wherewithal to ride these minor aches out and easily tax the health care system by the millions on a daily basis.

And how do they expect brilliant young students to slave for 8 years, incurring mega-thousands in debt, for the chance at a nifty $50K/year job snaking out Grandpa's rotten colon?

539 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:24:47pm

re: #533 avanti

I can only share my feeling. I think Rush is full of himself, and wields too much power. It's really none of my business if conservatives think he's a asset, but I don't see it. He is very popular to the base, but that's about it.

WTF. I agree with you, except for the "wields too much power." I think that is more perception than truth, which makes it worst.

I just don't like Rush.

540 spirochete  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:24:57pm

Ugh. Got the flu bigtime this weekend. Better now. What a miserable experience.

541 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:24:58pm

re: #533 avanti

I can only share my feeling. I think Rush is full of himself, and wields too much power. It's really none of my business if conservatives think he's a asset, but I don't see it. He is very popular to the base, but that's about it.

List the following in order of the amount of power they wield: Rush, Oprah, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Katie Couric.

542 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:25:27pm

re: #536 Sharmuta

I've only turned on the boobtube for a few speeches and a little sports. Other than that- I'm really done with it. I get most of my news and entertainment online.

I should. Living alone, I mostly use the TV for "white noise". I try to stay up on the shows and mostly watch Fox, Tv Time for Odd Couple,/i> reruns and Tru-TV. I love those forensics shows.

543 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:25:32pm

re: #530 HoosierHoops

/You do realize I just caught you using the word Lame in an incomplete sentence Don't you? just wait Till I tell the goddess.. LOL
Regards dusty

Dat it, I talking my bat (shud it squicky!) and my ball and going home...:)

544 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:25:39pm

re: #515 avanti

I was thinking of what he did to McCain. As I recall, he approved of GW's selection. Not a ditto head, so my perception could be wrong, but his attacks on Steele are not helpful IMHO.re: #519 sattv4u2

no ,, he didn't initially in 2000.


AND ,,, he was very critical of Bush during bthe Harriet Myeres nomination,,, the Dubai ports deal ,, the immigration bill ,,,,,

SEE ,,,, the "leaders" of that party aren't in 'lock step" with the "leader" Limbaugh!

545 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:26:13pm

re: #540 spirochete

Ugh. Got the flu bigtime this weekend. Better now. What a miserable experience.

Ick, Sorry. I am recovering too. {spirochete}

546 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:26:27pm

re: #517 reine.de.tout

Yes, and I saw a different article (will try to find it) indicating that that it was sort of a permanent loan, and the return of the item was done in such a manner that the UK diplomats were flabbergasted and didn't know quite what to do - I'll try to find it.

Isn't a "permanent loan" a oxymoron ? If it was, then it should not have been returned, but transferred to the National Archives like all valuable gifts.

547 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:26:57pm

re: #533 avanti

Groan... sharing feelings.
One of the after effects of drinking all that Kool-aid.
You just have to sleep it off.

548 Maui Girl  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:27:25pm

re: #322 OldLineTexan

It was a loan. It's extremely valuable ... a museum piece ... not a copy.

Even so, just giving it back when they offered to let him keep it for awhile, was an insult. But I'm sure the bust was glad to leave......

549 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:28:19pm

re: #533 avanti

I can only share my feeling. I think Rush 0bama is full of himself, and wields too much power. It's really none of my business if conservatives democrats think he's a asset, but I don't see it. He is very popular to the base, but that's about it.

FTFY

550 rumcrook  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:28:37pm

re: #482 jaunte

your dead on now. becuase thats what all utopian liberalsocialist asshats believe. they beleive no one came befor them that had quite the genius they have. that all of history that came before and crafted western culture were just a bunch of cavemen in comparison to thier luminescent brilliance.

551 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:28:44pm

re: #536 Sharmuta

I've only turned on the boobtube for a few speeches and a little sports.

I am way too ADHD to sit for even a minute for a political speech. I can read it later in 1/20th the time. But I will sit through an entire VDH lecture on CSPAN if I happen to get lucky enough to catch one.

552 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:29:20pm

re: #541 Alouette

The good news is that even two out of three liberals writing in the MSM think Keith Olbermann is crazy as batshiite. So... there's hope for the world yet.

553 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:29:30pm

re: #537 SanFranciscoZionist

I have Kaiser, and for a low co-pay (affordable) I could go in constantly, but I don't. I realize there are hypochondriacs out there, but I don't know if that would be a major problem.

A blogger named The Happy Hospitalist reported that his hospital put a free soda fountain on every floor and their patient satisfaction rating went up. People love free stuff... even when free means "somebody else pays."

I'm sure you've seen the ads for the powered scooters... "We'll get you a scooter at no cost to you..." Well, somebody's paying for it.... probably us.

You guys outfit and equip the Hovaround Precision Scooter Team... how's that grab ya?

554 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:29:55pm

re: #533 avanti

I can only share my feeling. I think Rush is full of himself, and wields too much power. It's really none of my business if conservatives think he's a asset, but I don't see it. He is very popular to the base, but that's about it.


exactly how much power does Rush wield? Will you go to jail from a bill he authorized Does his vote in the Senate swing the difference between life and death..Maybe he has effected your taxes? I could go on..But Rush is a voice on talk Radio...If he wasn't full of himself I'd fire him...

555 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:30:37pm

re: #553 SteveC

Well, somebody's paying for it.... probably us.

YA THINK?

556 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:31:17pm

re: #546 avanti

Isn't a "permanent loan" a oxymoron ? If it was, then it should not have been returned, but transferred to the National Archives like all valuable gifts.

it means keep it as long as you want...it is not an oxymoron

557 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:31:27pm

re: #548 Maui Girl

Even so, just giving it back when they offered to let him keep it for awhile, was an insult. But I'm sure the bust was glad to leave......

Churchill bust: "At least turn me to face the wall, so I don't have to watch this crap."

558 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:31:55pm

What would it be like to be Rush Limbaugh and have idiots calling you on the phone all day while you were at work.

559 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:31:56pm

re: #550 rumcrook

becuase thats what all utopian liberalsocialist asshats believe. they beleive no one came befor them that had quite the genius they have. that all of history that came before and crafted western culture were just a bunch of cavemen in comparison to thier luminescent brilliance.

"Oh brave new world, that has such people in it."
/

560 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:32:13pm

re: #555 Mich-again

YA THINK?

Durn tootin'! :)

561 Zimriel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:16pm

re: #458 jaunte

I see by this Roger Simon piece that losing elections doesn't matter yet to some purists:
[Link: www.politico.com...]

This is what Simon wants of the Republican Party:

It means backing President Barack Obama to gain favor with voters. It means abandoning social issues such as abortion, guns and gay marriage in favor of kitchen table issues such as jobs, health care and the environment.

I get it! The Republican Party is not allowed to support individual principles - these are "social issues", for troglodytes, better off "abandoned".

What might be a principled defense of, for instance, the right to arms as a natural-law liberty is a "social issue". Whether the state ought to support the ideal of a man and woman as the head of a family is a "social issue". The life of the unborn? "Social".

All the little "please-recycle", "carbon neutral" moralising shibboleths bunched under "the environment", though - oh no, those do not comprise a "social issue". If the Republicans support free-market solutions to "health care" and "jobs", that just proves that the Democrats with their big government programmes care more.

Simon wants a ruling ideology of Leftism. He is prepared to tolerate a Republican Party; as long as it supports Obama, doesn't get too uppity, and doesn't get too popular among those horrible "social issue" obsessed rubes.

562 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:22pm

re: #546 avanti

Isn't a "permanent loan" a oxymoron ? If it was, then it should not have been returned, but transferred to the National Archives like all valuable gifts.

I think it was an indefinite loan--they would have let us keep it if Obama wanted it, but once we weren't using it they definitely wanted it back. I also heard somewhere that the guy on the British side in charge of the loan offered to get Obama some other piece of Churchillanalia that would fit into his plan for the office. Not sure where we are on that.

563 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:31pm

re: #542 Afrocity

I should. Living alone, I mostly use the TV for "white noise". I try to stay up on the shows and mostly watch Fox, Tv Time for Odd Couple,/i> reruns and Tru-TV. I love those forensics shows.

I spend more time reading now that I'm not beholden to the idiot box. For background noise I usually log onto pandora. I'm happier not being bound to the whims of TV anymore. It's actually quite liberating.

564 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:35pm

re: #539 Walter L. Newton

WTF. I agree with you, except for the "wields too much power." I think that is more perception than truth, which makes it worst.

I just don't like Rush.

Walter, it may well be a perception, but if he was not perceived as powerful, why the running to apologize to a radio personality for every perceived slight by those in the GOP ? My perception, and it's just that, is that he's more worried about his ratings then helping the conservatives.
I really had high hopes for Steele before Rush cut him off at the knees.

565 redseeped  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:41pm

re: #40 pingjockey

Little imbeciles aping old imbeciles...

566 tradewind  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:33:46pm

re: #546 avanti

Not without transfer of ownership.

567 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:34:21pm

re: #558 Mich-again

What would it be like to be Rush Limbaugh and have idiots calling you on the phone all day while you were at work.

at a million an hour who cares

568 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:34:53pm

re: #537 SanFranciscoZionist

I have Kaiser, and for a low co-pay (affordable) I could go in constantly, but I don't. I realize there are hypochondriacs out there, but I don't know if that would be a major problem.

You're more optimistic than I am. It would probably take some time to see an increase. Not so much a true hypochondriac but the average person. Say you get 100,000 patients a day (nationwide) at 100 dollars of billing each. That's 10,000,000 dollars a day. After 365 days it balloons to 3,650,000,000 dollars. Rough guess on my part. Even if it's halved that's over a billion dollars a year.

I don't know maybe 100,000 per day is a stretch.

569 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:34:58pm

re: #557 SteveC

Churchill bust: "At least turn me to face the wall, so I don't have to watch this crap."

If those portraits of the presidents were like the talking ones in the Harry Potter series, I bet they would have a lot to say about the White House and its Half Blood President.

570 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:35:02pm

re: #539 Walter L. Newton

WTF. I agree with you, except for the "wields too much power." I think that is more perception than truth, which makes it worst.

I just don't like Rush.


That's because you don't listen to him.

571 Optimizer  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:35:48pm

re: #424 Afrocity

That SNL portrayal of Steele is inaccurate. I understand humor being made out of something that is grounded in truth. The skit portrays Steele as some sort of controlled "Uncle Tom" shill for El Rushbo. I was offended.

The same was true for Palin. The resemblance of Fey was entertaining, and maybe there were some good jokes near the beginning, but it went on to create a character who was this beauty queen bimbo who was not based on any sort of reality. The stark contrast between the character and the reality was made pretty obvious when Palin later appeared on the show (remember Fey scurrying off the set like a cochroach?). Naturally, they spun Palin's commanding presence, effortless charisma, and - well - far superior looks as, "She didn't even realize we were making fun of her".

Unfortunately, it seems like the character became conflated with the REAL Palin to many people. Hell, someone IN HERE actually thought she had said, "I can see Russia from my house!" (Although, that particular item WAS based on something she said that was a pretty lame attempt at establishing foreign policy creds. Something to the effect that the Russian premier flies over Alaska to get to Washington. That's true, and actually does point out how Alaska is at a strategic crossroads, which is why our missile defense battery is there, but it's no substitue for actual foreign policy experience - which almost no candidate ever has.)

I don't watch SNL much, but (as someone said here) "that'll be the day" when they take any real jabs at Obama. If they were just about humor, there's been so much ammo for them that it''s not funny. 57 states? A tax cheat running the Treasury? You just can't even make this stuff up!

572 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:36:29pm

re: #552 tradewind

The good news is that even two out of three liberals writing in the MSM think Keith Olbermann is crazy as batshiite. So... there's hope for the world yet.

I would hope it's higher then that, he's the lefts Anne Coulter. I can not watch the guy. If you look up moonbat in the dictionary, you'll see his picture.

573 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:36:45pm

re: #564 avanti

Walter, it may well be a perception, but if he was not perceived as powerful, why the running to apologize to a radio personality for every perceived slight by those in the GOP ? My perception, and it's just that, is that he's more worried about his ratings then helping the conservatives.
I really had high hopes for Steele before Rush cut him off at the knees.

WTF are you talking about? You can't just make shit up here, you're called on it EVERY time. Aside form this back and forth with Steele, please list ALL the times someone in the GOP went (and I quote)

running to apologize to a radio personality for every perceived slight
574 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:37:09pm

re: #567 albusteve

at a million an hour who cares

Let's keep this under a 249,000 dollars.. I can't afford the taxes.

575 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:37:37pm

re: #561 Zimriel

Simon is prepared to throw a lot of principles overboard, but it may only be necessary to prove fiscal competence to another 10% of the voters for the Republicans to get back into power.

576 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:38:32pm

re: #499 Afrocity
I think Sharmuta already said this above, but if you really want to get your point across, go after their real bosses--the advertisers. When I got PO'd during the election, I wrote to the advertisers. I sent emails and got some responses back. I even had some people on the phone and they did seem to take my concerns seriously. Don't know how far this will get you with SNL, as their advertisers probably expect them to offend people.

577 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:38:35pm

re: #564 avanti

Walter, it may well be a perception, but if he was not perceived as powerful, why the running to apologize to a radio personality for every perceived slight by those in the GOP ? My perception, and it's just that, is that he's more worried about his ratings then helping the conservatives.
I really had high hopes for Steele before Rush cut him off at the knees.

you are way deep into the lives of a few people and making too much of some news article...do you know these plays personally?....you sound like a cheezy soap opera junkie...who do you like in the Super Bowl?

578 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:17pm

re: #564 avanti

I repeat ,,
NEXT TIME YOU HAVE THE URGE TO SHARE A THOUGHT ,,, SUPRESS IT !

579 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:39:27pm

re: #567 albusteve

at a million an hour who cares

At a million what per hour?

580 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:40:13pm

re: #575 jaunte

Simon is prepared to throw a lot of principles overboard, but it may only be necessary to prove fiscal competence to another 10% of the voters for the Republicans to get back into power.

Romney's going to start looking awfully good to people in a couple of years...

581 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:07pm

re: #579 Mich-again

At a million what per hour?

Jerry McGuire? Is that you?

582 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:11pm

re: #576 VioletTiger

I think Sharmuta already said this above, but if you really want to get your point across, go after their real bosses--the advertisers. When I got PO'd during the election, I wrote to the advertisers. I sent emails and got some responses back. I even had some people on the phone and they did seem to take my concerns seriously. Don't know how far this will get you with SNL, as their advertisers probably expect them to offend people.

SNL is NBC which is GE. Good luck getting through to them. The only way to deal with SNL is to help their ratings decline to the point where GE thinks they can get a better conduit for advertising in that time slot.


Boycotting GE is like boycotting China

583 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:23pm

re: #574 HoosierHoops

Let's keep this under a 249,000 dollars.. I can't afford the taxes.

right...Rush stands for what the money does when he logs on...I like him to a point tho

584 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:27pm

re: #570 newsjunkie_ky

That's because you don't listen to him.

I was listening to Rush before he even had the full syndication that he now has. I don't like him, why is that so much of a problem.

Maybe Avanti is right, maybe he does have to much power since it seems that with so many conservatives it's almost a given that you HAVE to like him.

Really...

585 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:33pm

re: #580 lobo91

Romney's going to start looking awfully good to people in a couple of years...

He looks good NOW!

586 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:41:33pm

re: #578 sattv4u2

Why not refute the point instead of suppressing it.

587 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:42:19pm

re: #517 reine.de.tout

Yes, and I saw a different article (will try to find it) indicating that that it was sort of a permanent loan, and the return of the item was done in such a manner that the UK diplomats were flabbergasted and didn't know quite what to do - I'll try to find it.

I can't find the article I saw. I'll keep looking later.

588 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:42:43pm

re: #579 Mich-again

At a million what per hour?

I made that up...sounded like alot of money

589 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:42:55pm

re: #553 SteveC

A blogger named The Happy Hospitalist reported that his hospital put a free soda fountain on every floor and their patient satisfaction rating went up. People love free stuff... even when free means "somebody else pays."

I'm sure you've seen the ads for the powered scooters... "We'll get you a scooter at no cost to you..." Well, somebody's paying for it.... probably us.

You guys outfit and equip the Hovaround Precision Scooter Team... how's that grab ya?

I see your point, but there's a bit of a difference between 'free soda' and taking time off from work and going to the doctor's for a stomachache.

Is precision powered scooter a real sport?

590 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:43:02pm

re: #564 avanti

Walter, it may well be a perception, but if he was not perceived as powerful, why the running to apologize to a radio personality for every perceived slight by those in the GOP ? My perception, and it's just that, is that he's more worried about his ratings then helping the conservatives.
I really had high hopes for Steele before Rush cut him off at the knees.

Ok, just because I don't care for Rush doesn't mean you can get stupid with me.

Yea, you had high hopes for Steele. Bullshit.

591 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:43:02pm

re: #582 Sharmuta

Boycotting GE is like boycotting China

I like the way you think.

592 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:43:28pm

re: #590 Walter L. Newton

Ok, just because I don't care for Rush doesn't mean you can get stupid with me.

Yea, you had high hopes for Steele. Bullshit.

HA!

593 Zimriel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:43:33pm

re: #570 newsjunkie_ky

That's because you don't listen to him.

I'm not even going to say if I like Rush Limbaugh or not. I've read Jeff G's article and I'm damned if I'm going to wring my hands over whether or not he has too much power.

Obama has too much power. Washington DC has too much power. And I'll tell you who are the chief enablers of these highwaymen: it's those hand-wringers whining about "but but but we have to care more about jobs! health care!" "We"? If you care so much, hire somebody; and/or chip in if they have to go to the hospital. But it is immoral to sit on your lazy ass and demand the government rob everyone else to assuage your withered conscience.

594 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:43:41pm

re: #546 avanti

Isn't a "permanent loan" a oxymoron ? If it was, then it should not have been returned, but transferred to the National Archives like all valuable gifts.

Yes, perhaps I should have said "long-term".

595 Unakite  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:44:14pm

re: #21 Tamron

The guy in that protest rally has a family resemblance to Bill Ayers...
.

If that's a rally then one bean makes a pot of chili.

596 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:44:52pm

re: #573 sattv4u2

What he said.

597 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:44:53pm

re: #591 pink freud

Boycotting GE is like boycotting China

I like the way you think.

It's true- they have their fingers in everything. If they don't make it, they are a component in making it or they finance it. And I'm not saying that's bad- it just is what it is. Halliburton has nothing on GE.

598 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:44:59pm

re: #588 albusteve

I made that up...sounded like alot of money

Nay..didn't you get your bail out check yet?

599 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:02pm

re: #586 Mich-again

Why not refute the point instead of suppressing it.

REFER TO MY 491 ,,, 519 ,,, 544 ,,, 573 ,, ALL direct refutations of his posts. he has not once resopnded to the facts I gave him!

600 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:11pm

re: #581 HoosierHoops

Jerry McGuire? Is that you?

Nope. Drew Rosenhaus. Why do you ask.

/

601 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:45:20pm

re: #589 SanFranciscoZionist

They don't necessarily have to be working people. Considering the unemployment figures now and the incentives from the Obama White House not to work I think the figure will grow and remain at a statically high level -- not unlike France.

602 Zimriel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:46:12pm

re: #575 jaunte

Simon is prepared to throw a lot of principles overboard, but it may only be necessary to prove fiscal competence to another 10% of the voters for the Republicans to get back into power.

But Simon isn't suggesting fiscal competence. He's ceding "jobs" and "healthcare" to the Left. The argument of the Left is that the State administer "jobs" and "healthcare". Simon wants even less fiscal competence.

603 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:46:21pm

re: #600 Mich-again

Nope. Drew Rosenhaus. Why do you ask.

/

As long as it's not Scott Boras

604 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:46:25pm

re: #600 Mich-again

Nope. Drew Rosenhaus. Why do you ask.

/

Hi Daddy...

605 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:46:30pm

re: #598 HoosierHoops

Nay..didn't you get your bail out check yet?

I'm New Mexican...we are last if at all

606 freetoken  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:46:37pm

re: #569 Afrocity

[...] the White House and its Half Blood President.

An interesting statement....

607 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:46:53pm

re: #597 Sharmuta

Halliburton has nothing on GE.

Well, it does have one thing on GE: Its stock is still worth more than a cup of coffee from Starbucks..

608 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:47:17pm

re: #606 freetoken

An interesting statement....

Among many similar.

609 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:47:44pm

re: #568 Gus 802

You're more optimistic than I am. It would probably take some time to see an increase. Not so much a true hypochondriac but the average person. Say you get 100,000 patients a day (nationwide) at 100 dollars of billing each. That's 10,000,000 dollars a day. After 365 days it balloons to 3,650,000,000 dollars. Rough guess on my part. Even if it's halved that's over a billion dollars a year.

I don't know maybe 100,000 per day is a stretch.

What are you assuming the conditions are? Is the entire population on a national health care system, paying only federal taxes, but no money out of pocket or payroll through employers?

610 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:47:47pm

re: #584 Walter L. Newton

I was listening to Rush before he even had the full syndication that he now has. I don't like him, why is that so much of a problem.

Maybe Avanti is right, maybe he does have to much power since it seems that with so many conservatives it's almost a given that you HAVE to like him.

Really...


I call Bu11sh1t!

611 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:47:48pm

On a related topic: Quote of the day

The Hot Air commenters are dumping on McCain's daughter for criticizing Coutler. Conservatives seem more interested in protecting their sacred cows no matter how dumb they are.

612 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:07pm

re: #573 sattv4u2

Here's 3 recent ones the right hand side of the page to answer your question. On a DNC web site used to stir up the crap about the GOP about the apologizes to Rush. Perception is a powerful tool.

Sorry Rush

613 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:07pm

re: #605 albusteve

I'm New Mexican...we are last if at all

That's strange, I got mine and I'm not even a citizen.
/

614 Racer X  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:36pm

Asteroid Impact (HD)

Pink Floyd - Great Gig in the Sky

615 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:48:51pm

re: #611 Killgore Trout

Clowns to the left, Jokers to the right.

616 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:49:01pm

Hot air commenter....

Allah, if you voted for John Kerry, I will not read anything from you again. Why? Because it takes logic to appreciate Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh, and a lack of logic would indicate a supporter of John Kerry. If you are not logical, you are not worth reading.


/Genius!

617 Unakite  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:49:22pm

re: #445 tradewind

If the lack of soap doesn't gag you, the patchouli will.

Lightning and thunder?

618 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:49:42pm

re: #611 Killgore Trout

On a related topic: Quote of the day

The Hot Air commenters are dumping on McCain's daughter for criticizing Coutler. Conservatives seem more interested in protecting their sacred cows no matter how dumb they are.

Wait. This from someone who supports/has supported 0bama?

619 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:49:46pm

re: #613 Walter L. Newton

That's strange, I got mine and I'm not even a citizen.
/

GAURDS!....IMPOSTER!

620 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:49:49pm

re: #602 Zimriel

But Simon isn't suggesting fiscal competence. He's ceding "jobs" and "healthcare" to the Left. The argument of the Left is that the State administer "jobs" and "healthcare". Simon wants even less fiscal competence.


I see that, and I think he's wrong. I linked to that piece to show Killgore I had read some of what he was talking about. However I personally disagree with Simon about the government being better than the private sector at creating jobs and healthcare.

621 Optimizer  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:49:50pm

re: #447 Sharmuta

Didn't sound like the audience found it humorous or entertaining. With the numerous "government spending is out of control" lines- I have to wonder if that might have actually made a few people think. It's hard to deny the truth of that "joke".

I met with a sort of stock trading club at lunch today. Mostly guys drinking the Kool-Aid, one of them about to retire. They seemed pretty subdued about any mention of Obama's economic policies, and what these policies might do to various sectors. Even a month ago they probably would have laughed off comments about Obama "waging all-war on business" as hysterical Right Wing anti-Obama rhetoric. They're SO NOT LAUGHING anymore. Especially the biggest leftist of them all - who's the guy about to retire.

They're big fans of CNBC's Cramer, who has recently joined all the other embarrassed roadkill under Obama's bus.

622 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:49:53pm

re: #615 Mich-again

It's kinda bummin' me out. Normally I wouldn't care so much but the economy is wearing on me.

623 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:00pm

re: #589 SanFranciscoZionist

I see your point, but there's a bit of a difference between 'free soda' and taking time off from work and going to the doctor's for a stomachache.

Is precision powered scooter a real sport?

If the doctor's visit is free, people will figure out how to get there and get their no cost medical care. If it's going to cost, a lot of people will speed eat Tums and deal with it.

I haven't seen any reports on productivity as related to healthcare cost, but I bet there's a few out there.

Let's not have precision power scooter. Let's slap logos all over the scooters and run them around the track at Daytona. Three scooters side by side in turn four at 5 MPH, it's a wonder nobody ate the wall!

624 deanayer  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:09pm

Is the art work that lone idiot is holding in the picture a real image or one of Ward's knock-offs?

625 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:15pm

re: #618 pink freud

Que?

626 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:18pm

re: #609 SanFranciscoZionist

Honestly, I'd have to conduct a study to give you an accurate answer.

627 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:20pm

goodnight.

628 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:30pm

re: #607 lobo91

Well, it does have one thing on GE: Its stock is still worth more than a cup of coffee from Starbucks..

GE is a stock that previously was one that wasn't going to lose you a lot of money, but it wasn't going to gain you a lot either. Most of their money was coming not from any manufacturing, but from its financial division. That's why GE stock is in the tank now.

629 Zimriel  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:45pm

re: #611 Killgore Trout

On a related topic: Quote of the day

The Hot Air commenters are dumping on McCain's daughter for criticizing Coutler. Conservatives seem more interested in protecting their sacred cows no matter how dumb they are.

How's about restricting your attacks to HotAir commenters and not blanket "conservatives", sport?

630 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:47pm

re: #610 newsjunkie_ky

I call Bu11sh1t!

Whatever yanks your crank. How the hell can I...

1) Prove that I started listening to Rush from almost day one.
2) Prove to you I don't like him anymore.

What is your problem?

631 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:50:48pm

re: #601 Gus 802

They don't necessarily have to be working people. Considering the unemployment figures now and the incentives from the Obama White House not to work I think the figure will grow and remain at a statically high level -- not unlike France.

My husband is looking for work. I beg you, either don't scare me with growing figures, or tell me where we can get these incentives from.

632 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:07pm

re: #593 Zimriel

I'm not even going to say if I like Rush Limbaugh or not. I've read Jeff G's article and I'm damned if I'm going to wring my hands over whether or not he has too much power.

Obama has too much power. Washington DC has too much power. And I'll tell you who are the chief enablers of these highwaymen: it's those hand-wringers whining about "but but but we have to care more about jobs! health care!" "We"? If you care so much, hire somebody; and/or chip in if they have to go to the hospital. But it is immoral to sit on your lazy ass and demand the government rob everyone else to assuage your withered conscience.

Just tell us how ya really feel!

633 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:30pm
634 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:36pm

re: #590 Walter L. Newton

Ok, just because I don't care for Rush doesn't mean you can get stupid with me.

Yea, you had high hopes for Steele. Bullshit.

Walter, I've told you many times I want a fiscally conservative party that is not so socially Conservative, and I thought Steele might turn that direction. I think he was/is a excellent choice.

635 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:39pm

re: #629 Zimriel

How about you not calling me "sport", Shorty.

636 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:51:58pm

re: #629 Zimriel

How's about restricting your attacks to HotAir commenters and not blanket "conservatives", sport?

Well, then it's no fun.

/

637 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:52:00pm

re: #625 Killgore Trout

Que?

Al viste el presidente? Mmm. Mkay.

//

638 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:52:06pm

re: #622 Killgore Trout

It's kinda bummin' me out. Normally I wouldn't care so much but the economy is wearing on me.

it's just started...you better hitch it up....I'm worth about half what I was three months ago...I'm ready to stroke

639 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:52:18pm

Everybody has their cranky pants on tonight.

640 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:52:27pm

re: #625 Killgore Trout

Que?

Ignore me. It's been a long day.

641 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:53:00pm

re: #612 avanti

Here's 3 recent ones the right hand side of the page to answer your question. On a DNC web site used to stir up the crap about the GOP about the apologizes to Rush. Perception is a powerful tool.

Sorry Rush

THATS your "proof"!?!? THATS your "source? Thats like asking Josef Mengele if he thinks Hitler was an okay guy!

642 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:53:29pm

re: #639 Killgore Trout

Everybody has their cranky pants on tonight.

Is that what that is. I just thought mine was from lumpy farts.

643 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:53:39pm

re: #638 albusteve

Yeah, it's going to be at least a year. Probably 2 or 3. I'm trying to hunker down. This is going to suck.

644 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:53:43pm

Our Second Amendment rights are not a social issue.

Holy crap, you teach these kids a word and they flog it to death.

/

645 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:53:56pm

re: #621 Optimizer

littleoldlady on the overnight thread linked to 0bama's approval index. Days after the inauguration he peaked at +30. Yesterday he was at +8. It hasn't even been 2 months. At this rate, he will be negative before summer.

646 Racer X  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:54:01pm

re: #635 Killgore Trout

OK, that's funny.

647 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:54:07pm

re: #626 Gus 802

Honestly, I'd have to conduct a study to give you an accurate answer.

Fair enough.

648 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:54:43pm

re: #639 Killgore Trout

Everybody has their cranky pants on tonight.

Who's wearing pants?

649 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:55:01pm

re: #611 Killgore Trout

On a related topic: Quote of the day

The Hot Air commenters are dumping on McCain's daughter for criticizing Coutler. Conservatives HOT AIR commenters seem more interested in protecting their sacred cows no matter how dumb they are.

Not all "conservatives" are commenters at HotAir, and not all are more interested in protecting "sacred cows" no matter what.

Coulter is way too shrill and abrasive for me, and I was turned off by her a loongg time ago.

650 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:55:08pm

re: #639 Killgore Trout

Everybody has their cranky pants on tonight.

Screw you, sexist pig! I'm wearing my cranky skirt. ;)

651 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:55:12pm

re: #648 OldLineTexan

Cranky skin?

652 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:55:20pm

re: #643 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it's going to be at least a year. Probably 2 or 3. I'm trying to hunker down. This is going to suck.

Just sit back and enjoy the "Age of Obama", my brother....breath it in....become one with the Hope and Change......then, wake up and get your third job because the two you already have don't cut it....

653 Hengineer  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:56:06pm

He may not be a throng, but he sure is raging.

654 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:56:07pm

re: #634 avanti

Walter, I've told you many times I want a fiscally conservative party that is not so socially Conservative, and I thought Steele might turn that direction. I think he was/is a excellent choice.

Steele--or any other RNC chairman--can "turn" any direction he likes, but the reality is that the party chairman has relatively little influence on such things.

His main function is fundraising.

655 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:56:28pm

re: #643 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it's going to be at least a year. Probably 2 or 3. I'm trying to hunker down. This is going to suck.

your're smart...you can do it...I'm older and filled with rage...I don't have time for this mickey mouse shit

656 Hengineer  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:56:34pm

re: #650 Sharmuta

Screw you, sexist pig! I'm wearing my cranky skirt. ;)

I thought it was the feminist thing to do to wear pants.

657 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:56:47pm

re: #654 lobo91

Hi guy. You in town?

658 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:00pm

re: #648 OldLineTexan

Who's wearing pants?

do Speedo's count?

659 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:05pm

re: #7 Gang of One

What, according to the assplow holding the poster, is 'the message'? Where do these people come from?

They're coming from Uranus.

660 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:10pm

re: #651 jaunte

Cranky skin?

Try this.

661 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:57:30pm

re: #643 Killgore Trout

Were you able to find out more about refinancing today? Good news for you, I hope.

662 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:58:08pm

re: #661 pink freud

Were you able to find out more about refinancing today? Good news for you, I hope.

And, how's that pork chop coming along?

663 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:58:18pm

re: #657 Walter L. Newton

Hi guy. You in town?

Yup. Here until Friday afternoon.

664 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:58:27pm

re: #660 OldLineTexan

Try this.

Hey, a six-pack is $29.95.

665 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:58:27pm

re: #594 reine.de.tout

Yes, perhaps I should have said "long-term".

Reine,

The correct term is permanent loan.
Curators and archivists use this term to refer to things given to a museum or collection, yet the full rights of ownership are not transferred.

666 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:58:35pm

re: #658 albusteve

do Speedo's count?

On teh Intertubes you kan haz freedum

667 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:58:47pm

re: #622 Killgore Trout

Its wearing on everyone bro. I used to root for gridlock thinking that if the Government couldn't agree to do anything it was probably better than whatever they would agree to do. Now I'm not so sure. Thats not a good thing. Sitting around waiting for politicians to fix the economy. Gotta have an out.

668 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:58:56pm

re: #643 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it's going to be at least a year. Probably 2 or 3. I'm trying to hunker down. This is going to suck.

"The suck zone…is the point, basically, at which the twister sucks you up. That's not the technical name for it, obviously." - Dusty, Twister.

669 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:58:59pm

re: #662 reine.de.tout

And, how's that pork chop coming along?

It's just Monday! There should be lots left ...

/did you find your rings?

670 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:59:01pm

re: #643 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it's going to be at least a year. Probably 2 or 3. I'm trying to hunker down. This is going to suck.

How did the oriental noodle soup come out? And, by the way, no new LOST this week. They are taking a one week break. They will repeat "LaFluer" and be back next week with a new one.

671 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:59:34pm

re: #665 Afrocity

Reine,

The correct term is permanent loan.
Curators and archivists use this term to refer to things given to a museum or collection, yet the full rights of ownership are not transferred.

Well then.
thank you for the info.
I used "permanent loan" earlier and a couple of folks took issue with the term.

672 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:59:37pm

re: #666 OldLineTexan

On teh Intertubes you kan haz freedum

man...you should see what I think I look like...awsome

673 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 8:59:42pm

re: #660 OldLineTexan

You've located my biker stepson's next birthday gift! Thanks.
[Link: www.antimonkeybutt.com...]

674 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:01pm

re: #641 sattv4u2

THATS your "proof"!?!? THATS your "source? Thats like asking Josef Mengele if he thinks Hitler was an okay guy!

Are you saying they did not issue apologies using those words ? I used that source because it grouped the recent ones together and to show how the Dems are using it. Feel free to show me they did not in fact apologize in just those words or I'll google it for you if you like.

675 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:04pm

re: #668 SteveC

"The suck zone…is the point, basically, at which the twister sucks you up. That's not the technical name for it, obviously." - Dusty, Twister.

Are we near the suck zone yet? I think we are...

676 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:05pm

re: #633 Iron Fist

On abortion, the key is that Americans are moderately pro-choice. Part of that implies that there are two valid choices: to abort OR to have the child. These are not content neutral choices. To the degree that the Democrats try to treat them as content neutral, the Republicans should be able to stick it in them and BREAK IT OFF. Clinton hit the formulation exactly right when he said that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. The Republicans should adoptthis choice as a pro-life position with the stated goal of there being no abortions in the United States even though it is still technically legal. What are the donks going to do, say no,no,no,no,no - we want abortion to be as common and as casual as clipping your nails!

That would be a nice compromise and I would welcome it. This is why opposition to Rudy troubled me so much on this issue. Who cares if an elected official is "pro-life" or "pro-choice" if that official has solutions that have actually reduced abortions and saved babies? Focusing on the ideal instead of a means to get there is troubling and I think it hurts the party.

677 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:28pm

re: #669 pink freud

It's just Monday! There should be lots left ...

/did you find your rings?

It's only Monday?
Where the heck have I been?

No, the rings are gone, I'm afraid.
Trying to figure out if they're covered under my homeowners insurance.

678 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:36pm

re: #664 Ward Cleaver

Hey, a six-pack is $29.95.

Such a deal. I bought some at Ace Hardware for gag Christmas gifts to my electrician brother and my son. The boy OPENED IT AND USED IT.

/I guess he was getting monkey butt
/I did not check

It's calamine powder; I don't think he can explode it or anything. ;)

679 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:39pm

re: #663 lobo91

Yup. Here until Friday afternoon.

I've told you, but if you and your wife makes it into town on a weekend, you have a couple (or more) of tics if you want a almost free night out.

680 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:00:51pm

re: #656 Hengineer

I thought it was the feminist thing to do to wear pants.

No- the feminist thing is for individual women to decide for themselves.

681 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:01:09pm

re: #656 Hengineer

I thought it was the feminist thing to do to wear pants.

No, the feminist thing to do is to leave your husband, kill your children, become a lesbian, practice witchcraft and destroy capitalism. TRY to keep up, Hengineer. There's no reason a woman can't do all of that wearing a nice skirt.

682 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:01:16pm

re: #677 reine.de.tout

I'm so sorry.

683 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:01:21pm

I just had to turn off the TV. "Shut up, Asshole!" was on Nightline.

684 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:01:43pm

re: #680 Sharmuta

By the way, hi Sharm.

685 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:01:46pm

re: #509 Gus 802

That's something I've pondered. With a supposed "free" health care system it will be flooded with millions of acute non-life threatening illnesses such as the common cold, flu, minor allergies, headaches, stomach aches, etc. People will no longer have the incentive or wherewithal to ride these minor aches out and easily tax the health care system by the millions on a daily basis.

Does that not happen now? Nobody in this country is denied health care before they put down cash, and we all pay when they don't.

I don't know the true problem, nor a solution, but I do know that the few (luckily so far) times I have had cause to see some bills, I find that the costs paid by my insurance were less than half of the original bill. Some people argue that that is due to the market powers of volume negotiation. I think that is bullshit.

Some people say that the costs of processing an individual policy or its claims versus that of an individual on a corporate policy, is much higher. I think that is bullshit.

I suspect that the entire system we have focuses far more energy and overhead on playing the system, be it screwing the uninsured or the individual insured or the government, than it does on direct medical issues.

An analogy would be how banks, bankers and mortgage brokers, and ineffective oversight based on trusting the self regulation of "market forces" got us into the mess we now have.

The truth is, being the good capitalist that I am, I do believe that market forces are self regulating; the only problem is that the natural cycles may be greater than a typical human generation, if not lifetime.

686 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:01:59pm

re: #671 reine.de.tout

Well then.
thank you for the info.
I used "permanent loan" earlier and a couple of folks took issue with the term.

Not me! It's the correct term.

687 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:00pm

re: #678 OldLineTexan

Such a deal. I bought some at Ace Hardware for gag Christmas gifts to my electrician brother and my son. The boy OPENED IT AND USED IT.

/I guess he was getting monkey butt
/I did not check

It's calamine powder; I don't think he can explode it or anything. ;)

Not even with diesel fuel?

688 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:09pm

Good evening y'all - how is everyone and what are we talking about?

689 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:21pm

re: #654 lobo91

Steele--or any other RNC chairman--can "turn" any direction he likes, but the reality is that the party chairman has relatively little influence on such things.

His main function is fundraising.

Then who can lead the party to a less socially conservative position or does it want to move ?

690 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:24pm

re: #639 Killgore Trout

Everybody has their cranky pants on tonight.

Hey I am always sweet as sugar./

691 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:30pm

re: #684 Walter L. Newton

Hi Walter. Hope you and Maisey are well.

692 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:35pm

re: #688 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone and what are we talking about?

Anti-Monkey Butt Powder.

693 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:02:40pm

re: #682 pink freud

I'm so sorry.

:-)
Thanks.

694 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:22pm

re: #546 avanti

Isn't a "permanent loan" a oxymoron ? If it was, then it should not have been returned, but transferred to the National Archives like all valuable gifts.

Don't know what this is about, but it sounds like a bribe to me.

695 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:26pm

re: #611 Killgore Trout

On a related topic: Quote of the day

The Hot Air commenters are dumping on McCain's daughter for criticizing Coutler. Conservatives seem more interested in protecting their sacred cows no matter how dumb they are.

I actually support Meghan McCain for saying that. Coulter gets a good bit more exposure than she should. She does fire up parts of the base but to me the cost is too high. She's nasty and snarky and she makes us all look bad. Good on Meghan McCain for calling Coulter out. But I can't help but ask again: Where was this McCain when it would have really helped?

696 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:31pm

re: #688 realwest

Hey RW. Just more tomfoolery and hijinxs.

697 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:03:54pm

re: #692 Ward Cleaver

Anti-Monkey Butt Powder.

We need to ship a case to Laura Ingraham! Her studio is infested with butt monkeys, i hear them nearly every day!

698 Macker  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:11pm

re: #51 gmsc

Speaking of protests:

Obama is throwing out the first pitch at opening day for the Washington Nationals, Monday, 4/13, a 3:05 EDT start. Given that stadiums get too many tax dollars, and it’s two days before the IRS deadline, it seems like a perfect place for a tea party protest.

(h/t Instapundit and David Pinto)

I wonder what kind of reception he's going to get?

699 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:13pm

re: #687 Ward Cleaver

Not even with diesel fuel?

We have a STRICT No-Tim-McVeigh-activities rule in THIS house, Mr.!

700 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:19pm

I just heard a report on the radio, Warren Buffet says the economy has fallen off a cliff, but he's still behind Obama and thinks the Big O will say things.

Ok, I have just changed careers. I am now a financial expert.

Translation. Buffet is going to make a killing when it goes down the shitter.

For more advice, just ask.

701 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:21pm

re: #688 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone and what are we talking about?

Monkey butts, Reine's mom's lost rings, avanti is stirring the shit re rush, i still despise 0bama, and it's been determined that 'permanent loan' means you ownership rights haven't transfered but it's essentially yours.

Oh yeah ...and we're gonna boycott China.

702 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:23pm

re: #639 Killgore Trout

Everybody has their cranky pants on tonight.

Everyone else has pants on?

703 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:42pm

re: #695 Dark_Falcon

I actually support Meghan McCain for saying that. Coulter gets a good bit more exposure than she should. She does fire up parts of the base but to me the cost is too high. She's nasty and snarky and she makes us all look bad. Good on Meghan McCain for calling Coulter out. But I can't help but ask again: Where was this McCain when it would have really helped?

turn off your TV immediately....forget all that shit

704 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:56pm

re: #660 OldLineTexan

Try this.

Is that sort of like this?

705 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:04:56pm

re: #661 pink freud

I didn't call today. I kinda lost enthusiasm after I figured out it won't really save me that much money. Also I had to check to see what I can afford with refinancing fees etc. I'll call tomorrow.

706 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:05:00pm

re: #680 Sharmuta

No- the feminist thing is for individual women to decide for themselves.

Oh, isn't that cute. The little Blue lady is getting uppity.
/KIDDING!
Don't you just hate it when Pandora asks if you're still listening?

707 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:05:01pm

re: #698 Macker

I wonder what kind of reception he's going to get?

If he can throw a decent curve they'll sign him in a heartbeat!

708 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:05:04pm

re: #679 Walter L. Newton

I've told you, but if you and your wife makes it into town on a weekend, you have a couple (or more) of tics if you want a almost free night out.

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

We were in town Saturday night to see Heart at the Paramount Theatre downtown. Definitely not a free night out...

I'd never been to the Paramount before. I was kind of surprised at how rundown it is inside. It would be pretty cool if they restored it.

709 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:05:09pm

re: #695 Dark_Falcon

I actually support Meghan McCain for saying that. Coulter gets a good bit more exposure than she should. She does fire up parts of the base but to me the cost is too high. She's nasty and snarky and she makes us all look bad. Good on Meghan McCain for calling Coulter out. But I can't help but ask again: Where was this McCain when it would have really helped?

She should temper her sharp wit with some forethought. She is hilarious when she's "on". She's downright mean when she's not.....

710 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:05:26pm

re: #691 Sharmuta

Hi Walter. Hope you and Maisey are well.

Whoa, I'm glad you reminded me. I left her in the shower, with it running. BBIAB.

711 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:05:34pm

re: #694 Naso Tang

Don't know what this is about, but it sounds like a bribe to me.

Yes, exactly. Gawd, the terrible things I have done for statuary.

////

712 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:02pm

re: #692 Ward Cleaver
Um, what?!? LOL - I thought I saw someone upthread a little saying Michael Steele doesn't have much control or input into Republican party candidates or where the party stands, which is, of course, bullshit.
How are ya doing and what the heck were you talking about?!

713 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:04pm

Jupiter's Great Red Spot Is Shrinking

I blame climate change. Oh wait:

The ongoing research aims to grasp Jupiter's overall, complex and changing climate.

The giant planet underwent a major upheaval from 2005 to 2007 when "a bunch of unusual weather patterns and color changes occurred all over the planet," Asay-Davis said.

Somebody call al goracle and get him to Jupiter!

714 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:08pm

re: #705 Killgore Trout

Please do. You might be pleasantly surprised. I'm rooting for you.

715 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:30pm

re: #701 pink freud

Monkey butts, Reine's mom's lost rings, avanti is stirring the shit re rush, i still despise 0bama, and it's been determined that 'permanent loan' means you ownership rights haven't transfered but it's essentially yours.

Oh yeah ...and we're gonna boycott China.

Excellent run-down of the topics, Pink.

716 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:34pm

re: #710 Walter L. Newton

Whoa, I'm glad you reminded me. I left her in the shower, with it running. BBIAB.

wasting water again?....sinfull

717 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:50pm

re: #702 Neo Con since 9-11

Everyone else has pants on?

HA!

718 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:06:51pm

re: #706 IslandLibertarian

Don't you just hate it when Pandora asks if you're still listening?

YES!

719 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:00pm

re: #705 Killgore Trout

I didn't call today. I kinda lost enthusiasm after I figured out it won't really save me that much money. Also I had to check to see what I can afford with refinancing fees etc. I'll call tomorrow.

OK, now WHAT ABOUT THAT PORK CHOP?

720 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:05pm

re: #710 Walter L. Newton

Whoa, I'm glad you reminded me. I left her in the shower, with it running. BBIAB.

WHAT!?

721 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:10pm

re: #676 Sharmuta

That would be a nice compromise and I would welcome it. This is why opposition to Rudy troubled me so much on this issue. Who cares if an elected official is "pro-life" or "pro-choice" if that official has solutions that have actually reduced abortions and saved babies? Focusing on the ideal instead of a means to get there is troubling and I think it hurts the party.

"abortion should be safe, legal, and rare" BINGO ! Very few are really pro abortion in the sense that they think it's like removing your tonsils. The vast majority don't want women criminalized for choosing a abortion, nor do they think it should be a casual choice and unregulated.

722 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:13pm

re: #713 Sharmuta

Jupiter's Great Red Spot Is Shrinking

I blame climate change. Oh wait:

Somebody call al goracle and get him to Jupiter!

I will offer to buy him a one way ticket

723 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:18pm

re: #700 Walter L. Newton

I just heard a report on the radio, Warren Buffet says the economy has fallen off a cliff, but he's still behind Obama and thinks the Big O will say things.

Ok, I have just changed careers. I am now a financial expert.

Translation. Buffet is going to make a killing when it goes down the shitter.

For more advice, just ask.

That's what I was wondering today - what is Buffett shorting? The U.S.?

724 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:20pm

re: #670 Walter L. Newton

Udon came out great. I'm on day 4 of my 1 pork chop per week experiment. I'm still on target and have a full belly every night.

725 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:21pm

re: #685 Naso Tang

I've barely looked at the medical industry as it stands now and it so complicated I lost interest. When you consider the regulatory, financial, insurance, social, and legal aspects that are as intertwined as ball of hair. In this case I think clinics, both private and public would help solve non-critical acute care. Tort reform to help lower insurance costs. Cooperative professional insurance programs to help lower liability insurance for doctors.

This is really out of my league.

726 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:25pm

re: #703 albusteve

turn off your TV immediately....forget all that shit

Why? What's on?

727 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:26pm

re: #709 Desert Dog

She should temper her sharp wit with some forethought. She is hilarious when she's "on". She's downright mean when she's not.....

I've been waiting since the Dem Convention in Boston in 2004 when she made fun of hairy fat moonbat womyn for her to be "on" again.

728 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:07:53pm

re: #704 reine.de.tout

Is that sort of like this?

It's powder, but THAT is a keeper.

729 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:02pm

re: #708 lobo91

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

We were in town Saturday night to see Heart at the Paramount Theatre downtown. Definitely not a free night out...

I'd never been to the Paramount before. I was kind of surprised at how rundown it is inside. It would be pretty cool if they restored it.

It's the only venue of that age downtown that hasn't had a makeover. But I think that's because it is privately owned. They would actually have to use their own money to upgrade the place.

Well, keep me in mind if you are looking for something to do and want to save a couple of twenties.

And that goes for any Lizards in town or coming through.

730 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:02pm

re: #701 pink freud

Monkey butts, Reine's mom's lost rings, avanti is stirring the shit re rush, i still despise 0bama, and it's been determined that 'permanent loan' means you ownership rights haven't transfered but it's essentially yours.

Oh yeah ...and we're gonna boycott China.

I thought we were boycotting GE.....?

731 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:09pm

re: #712 realwest

Um, what?!? LOL - I thought I saw someone upthread a little saying Michael Steele doesn't have much control or input into Republican party candidates or where the party stands, which is, of course, bullshit.
How are ya doing and what the heck were you talking about?!

I'm doing okay. Go up thread a little to read about the powder.

732 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:14pm

re: #713 Sharmuta

Jupiter's Great Red Spot Is Shrinking

I guess we should have stayed away from Europa.

733 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:15pm

re: #702 Neo Con since 9-11

Everyone else has pants on?

Raging jeans, mellow undies, take your pick.

734 rumcrook  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:18pm

re: #605 albusteve

I am so obtuse. I should have realized when ive see your handle before, ive wondered a couple times what the heck albu was, its albuquerque. I used to live in the north valley. owned a house on montano

735 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:08:28pm

re: #713 Sharmuta

Jupiter's Great Red Spot Is Shrinking

I blame climate change. Oh wait:

Somebody call al goracle and get him to Jupiter!

I'd say send him to Uranus instead.

736 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:18pm

re: #674 avanti

Are you saying they did not issue apologies using those words ? I used that source because it grouped the recent ones together and to show how the Dems are using it. Feel free to show me they did not in fact apologize in just those words or I'll google it for you if you like.


#2,, Read the ENTIRE Gingry "apology" here (very different when in context as opposed to your snippet)[Link: houstonconservative.com...]
#3,,Sanford’s Communications Director, said that "the governor was not referring to anyone" in particular.

737 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:28pm

re: #735 Dark_Falcon

I'd say send him to Uranus instead.

But he came out of Uranus!

738 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:31pm

re: #730 Sharmuta

I thought we were boycotting GE.....?

Oops.

You boycott GE, I'll boycott China. :-)

739 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:33pm

re: #725 Gus 802

This is really out of my league.

....but what about you know who....?

Nevermind.

740 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:09:35pm

re: #719 reine.de.tout

See #724, still on target. I tried a new marinade; rice wine, soy sauce, green chilly paste and lemon juice. Very tasty.

741 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:09pm

re: #723 Ward Cleaver

That's what I was wondering today - what is Buffett shorting? The U.S.?

I would not shed too many tears for Mr. Buffett. If the market goes down, he wins, if it goes up, he wins.......when you are that rich, does it really matter? The fact that he supports Obama so much tells me he is guilty about being such a disgustingly rich guy.....he must have crushed alot of people to get to where he is now and that is his penance

742 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:10pm

re: #726 Dark_Falcon

Why? What's on?


the MSM is rotting your brain....save yourself

743 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:16pm

re: #724 Killgore Trout

Udon came out great. I'm on day 4 of my 1 pork chop per week experiment. I'm still on target and have a full belly every night.

I freshened the tomato based veggie soup pot today. I have been busy this evening doing some extra cleaning up, and I just sat down to a bowl of it.

It's been simmering for about 5 hours.

Yummy (and cheap).

744 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:22pm

re: #738 pink freud

Oops.

You boycott GE, I'll boycott China. :-)

I'll boycott GE crap made in China.

745 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:40pm

uh oh. Pun time.

746 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:10:41pm

re: #732 jaunte

I guess we should have stayed away from Europa.

Global Waning.

747 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:09pm
748 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:17pm

re: #745 Naso Tang

uh oh. Pun time.

Ok, you go first.

749 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:23pm

re: #735 Dark_Falcon

I'd say send him to Uranus instead.

Can't help myself: This brings to mind Alouette's famous response to UberInfidel's question: Where do Jews Come From?

Jews are from Jewpiter.

Muslims are from Uranus.

750 SteveC  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:31pm

re: #735 Dark_Falcon

I'd say send him to Uranus instead.

ALL THESE PLANETS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA
ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE
USE THEM TOGETHER
USE THEM IN PEACE

751 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:11:48pm

Cranky pants always come off a little short.

752 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:12:06pm

re: #747 ploome hineni

anyone seen my cranky pants?

someone seems to have taken them

:D

They're on your head. :)

Sorry, I'm really not trying to be mean.

Hugs?

753 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:12:24pm

Europa is now Eurabia.

754 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:12:41pm

re: #747 ploome hineni

anyone seen my cranky pants?

someone seems to have taken them

:D

You sure? Maybe they're just in the wash . . .

755 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:12:42pm

re: #701 pink freud
WOW! I've missed a lot! As for the permanent loans, yes and no. IF you live in what's called a "lien state" then you do indeed own the property and the lender only has a mortgage lien against your property. If you live in a title state, title is held in escrow and you and the lender and the escrow agent (usually the title insurance company) sign a deed of trust, so you don't own the property.
And as for boycotting China put me down for it, long as y'all remember maybe 50% of US Treasury Bills (obigations) are held by China and they could demand payment at just about any time.

756 Racer X  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:12:50pm
757 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:01pm

re: #752 Walter L. Newton

They're on your head. :)

Sorry, I'm really not trying to be mean.

Hugs?

What woman could resist a man with a wet parrot?

758 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:05pm

re: #689 avanti

Then who can lead the party to a less socially conservative position or does it want to move ?

This isn't England. Our party labels have becom almost meaningless, except as a kind of shorthand for use by lazy voters.

Sometimes, I almost wish people had to actually join a party, and pay dues and the like, rather than the check box we have now. Anyone can call himself a Republican (or, for that matter, a Democrat), regardless of their actual beliefs. When Michael Bloomberg and David Duke can both run for office as Republicans, it clearly doesn't mean much.

759 The Shadow Do  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:22pm

re: #721 avanti

"abortion should be safe, legal, and rare" BINGO ! Very few are really pro abortion in the sense that they think it's like removing your tonsils. The vast majority don't want women criminalized for choosing a abortion, nor do they think it should be a casual choice and unregulated.

And then there is Obama who finds that if they survive abortion then ...kill 'em!

760 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:24pm

re: #753 OldLineTexan

Europa was a Phoenician.

761 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:37pm

re: #734 rumcrook

I am so obtuse. I should have realized when ive see your handle before, ive wondered a couple times what the heck albu was, its albuquerque. I used to live in the north valley. owned a house on montano

Montano is just up the road from here....I live off Second St just north of Montano

762 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:13:50pm

By the way, for all you bluegrass lovers, our next concert at Miners Alley is...

Shalom Feivel & Rocky Mountain Jewgrass
April 11, 2009

Presented by our concert company Acoustic Alley

763 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:06pm

re: #741 Desert Dog

I would not shed too many tears for Mr. Buffett. If the market goes down, he wins, if it goes up, he wins.......when you are that rich, does it really matter? The fact that he supports Obama so much tells me he is guilty about being such a disgustingly rich guy.....he must have crushed alot of people to get to where he is now and that is his penance

Like Walter says, I think he's positioned to make a windfall off of everyone else's misery. A vulture capitalist.

764 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:29pm

re: #755 realwest

WOW! I've missed a lot! As for the permanent loans, yes and no. IF you live in what's called a "lien state" then you do indeed own the property and the lender only has a mortgage lien against your property. If you live in a title state, title is held in escrow and you and the lender and the escrow agent (usually the title insurance company) sign a deed of trust, so you don't own the property.
And as for boycotting China put me down for it, long as y'all remember maybe 50% of US Treasury Bills (obigations) are held by China and they could demand payment at just about any time.

I wish China would ask away.....so we can tell them, "Sorry, Charley, we're BROKE and now so are you SUCKER!"

765 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:31pm

re: #760 jaunte

Europa was a Phoenician.

And Zeus was Greek. So it's an Obama-esque situation.

766 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:50pm

re: #757 OldLineTexan

What woman could resist a man with a wet parrot?

Maisey is not wet anymore. Dried her off in the microwave.

767 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:14:53pm

re: #721 avanti

I think the call for a Constitutional ban should be dropped- it's neither realistic nor is it going to solve the problem. I think real solutions should be promoted like reforming adoption laws, improving birth control and it's economic availability and education.

Just reading this book on evolution and it's chapter on sexual selection has been a bit of an eye opener. Seems to me animal females are a little smarter in selecting mates than human females. Many animals actually take into account if their mate will be a decent provider for offspring. I feel this component of female human sexual choices is sorely lacking.

768 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:15:10pm

re: #732 jaunte

I guess we should have stayed away from Europa.

We were warned!

769 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:15:20pm

re: #731 Ward Cleaver
ah, got it! Glad to hear you're doing well, too!

770 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:15:33pm

re: #766 Walter L. Newton

Maisey is not wet anymore. Dried her off in the microwave.

Efficient, too. Girls, are you listening?

771 Hengineer  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:16:00pm

re: #680 Sharmuta

No- the feminist thing is for individual women to decide for themselves.

I guess it depends on which ones you talk about. Real ones can still make the choice to be homemakers and moms, crazy feminazis think even that choice is demeaning or something.

772 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:16:02pm

re: #723 Ward Cleaver

That's what I was wondering today - what is Buffett shorting? The U.S.?

Buffett has invested billions in the market, bottom feeding and will make billions when it turns around. The history of the market is that a 50% gain is likely in one year of recovery after a major crash. He's just ribbing his hands waiting for his cash.

773 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:16:18pm

re: #770 OldLineTexan

Efficient, too. Girls, are you listening?

You can dry your nails that way too!

774 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:16:29pm

re: #735 Dark_Falcon

I'd say send him to Uranus instead.

What did my anus do to deserve al gore? ;)

775 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:16:39pm

Plenty of fodder here tonight for VOL 2 of the cookbook!

Send in those recipes!
Or Sharmuta will yell at you.
And Ploome will put her cranky pants back on.

776 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:16:44pm

re: #755 realwest

WOW! I've missed a lot! As for the permanent loans, yes and no. IF you live in what's called a "lien state" then you do indeed own the property and the lender only has a mortgage lien against your property. If you live in a title state, title is held in escrow and you and the lender and the escrow agent (usually the title insurance company) sign a deed of trust, so you don't own the property.
And as for boycotting China put me down for it, long as y'all remember maybe 50% of US Treasury Bills (obigations) are held by China and they could demand payment at just about any time.

The permanent loan we were talking about (well, they were talking, I was listening) refers to the Churchill bust "loaned" to GW either right before or right after 9/11 (depending on which article you read).

Ok on China.

GE: Sharmuta
CHINA: RealWest, Pink Freud

777 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:17:06pm

re: #765 OldLineTexan

.......and we're stuck on the third stone from the sun with him...........

Power to the Correct People!
(They don't need HopeyChange!)

778 Hengineer  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:17:07pm

re: #774 Sharmuta

What did my anus do to deserve al gore? ;)

Well it already excretes feces...

779 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:17:16pm

re: #775 reine.de.tout

Plenty of fodder here tonight for VOL 2 of the cookbook!

Send in those recipes!
Or Sharmuta will yell at you.
And Ploome will put her cranky pants back on.

DO WHAT SHE SAYS OR I SHALL YELL AT YOU A SECOND TIME.

780 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:17:46pm

re: #756 Racer X

How to Survive a Bear Attack

Too.funny.

/but useful!

781 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:17:50pm

re: #748 pink freud

Ok, you go first.

I'll punt to you.

782 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:18:32pm

I was bored and starved of laughs so I had a look on David Icke's website to see what he might be saying about Obama.

Apparently, he is the tool of the Democratic wing of the Illuminati (I somehow suspected that they might be involved in some way) under the direct command of Zbigniew Brzezinski, "the co-founder, with David Rockefeller, of the Illuminati's Trilateral Commission". Icke has thoughtfully produced a diagram showing how a 'discerning person' perceives this reality:

Image: obama17.jpg

783 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:18:59pm

goodnight, all

784 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:18:59pm

re: #778 Hengineer

Well it already excretes feces...

jeezus....you guys are deep in

785 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:19:06pm

re: #778 Hengineer

Well it already excretes feces...

Don't bring Michael Moore into this.

786 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:19:22pm
787 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:19:29pm

re: #775 reine.de.tout

Plenty of fodder here tonight for VOL 2 of the cookbook!

Send in those recipes!
Or Sharmuta will yell at you.
And Ploome will put her cranky pants back on.

What is the deadline Reine?

788 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:19:43pm

re: #782 Jimmah

I was bored and starved of laughs so I had a look on David Icke's website to see what he might be saying about Obama.

Apparently, he is the tool of the Democratic wing of the Illuminati (I somehow suspected that they might be involved in some way) under the direct command of Zbigniew Brzezinski, "the co-founder, with David Rockefeller, of the Illuminati's Trilateral Commission". Icke has thoughtfully produced a diagram showing how a 'discerning person' perceives this reality:

[Link: www.davidicke.com...]

I'd go there, but it's too icky.

789 Racer X  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:03pm

Crime report!

A local man was found murdered in his home in Galveston, Texas over the weekend. Detectives at the scene found the man face down in his bathtub. The tub had been filled with milk and cornflakes, and the deceased had a banana protruding from his buttocks...

Police believe it was the work of a cereal killer.

790 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:06pm

re: #757 OldLineTexan

What woman could resist a man with a wet parrot?

Will she come out of the shower when she's ready, or does she just stay in there until you turn the spray off?

791 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:17pm

re: #781 Naso Tang

I'll punt to you.

Buy goal. It closed at $922/ounce.

792 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:24pm
793 rumcrook  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:20:32pm

re: #761 albusteve

you must go past my old house to get back and forth from the west side to the east side every once in a while, I owned the house just to the west of that big church which is a couple blocks west of 4th st on montano. it has the big red brown plank fence up next to the sidewalk and the gate has a design of acoma pottery I painted on it and a copper lizard. theres also a steel kokopeli on the post. and a smaller covered gate I made going into the front. ring any bells? the church bought it and turned it into a food pantry and community building

794 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:21:05pm

re: #786 ploome hineni

it's all about self control

Of which you have an ample supply, being our resident delicate flower and all.

795 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:21:13pm

re: #767 Sharmuta

This position get me the lovely title of RINO in some circles, BTW.

796 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:21:25pm

re: #767 Sharmuta

Seems to me animal females are a little smarter in selecting mates than human females. Many animals actually take into account if their mate will be a decent provider for offspring. I feel this component of female human sexual choices is sorely lacking.

In the animal world that means just waiting for the males to fight it out. In the human world its quite a bit different. Actually if you want to get closer to the animal method for choosing a spouse, it would make sense to just go back to letting the parents arrange the whole thing. I don't see anyone signing up for that when they are 18. But by the time they are 30 and divorced I wonder how many people wonder if mom and dad could have picked a better spouse.

797 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:21:26pm

re: #787 Afrocity

What is the deadline Reine?

Haven't set one yet. I'll give it a couple of months.

798 rawmuse  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:21:30pm

Please describe your self in 25 words or less.

799 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:21:37pm
800 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:21:47pm

re: #764 Desert Dog
LOL! Or wait until Obama gets those printing presses working 24/7 then we can repay China with dollars that are worth 25% of what they were when China bought the Treasuries!

801 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:21:53pm

re: #791 pink freud

Buy goal. It closed at $922/ounce.

NO UPDINGS?! I thought that one was purty doggone good.

802 The Shadow Do  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:21:58pm

re: #772 avanti

Buffett has invested billions in the market, bottom feeding and will make billions when it turns around. The history of the market is that a 50% gain is likely in one year of recovery after a major crash. He's just ribbing his hands waiting for his cash.

That is silly. Do you really think he is enjoying the reality of the losses any more than anyone else is? He is not "ribbing" his hands, he is praying this is not the end of modern economics. There is no evidence he is playing this market, there is every evidence he is getting hammered. Your take is typical class conflict BS.

803 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:22:14pm

re: #782 Jimmah

I was bored and starved of laughs so I had a look on David Icke's website to see what he might be saying about Obama.

Apparently, he is the tool of the Democratic wing of the Illuminati (I somehow suspected that they might be involved in some way) under the direct command of Zbigniew Brzezinski, "the co-founder, with David Rockefeller, of the Illuminati's Trilateral Commission". Icke has thoughtfully produced a diagram showing how a 'discerning person' perceives this reality:

[Link: www.davidicke.com...]

If Obama wants to succeed in foreign affairs, he should consult Zbigniew Brzezinski everytime he needs to make a decision....and then do the exact opposite

804 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:22:17pm

re: #793 rumcrook

you must go past my old house to get back and forth from the west side to the east side every once in a while, I owned the house just to the west of that big church which is a couple blocks west of 4th st on montano. it has the big red brown plank fence up next to the sidewalk and the gate has a design of acoma pottery I painted on it and a copper lizard. theres also a steel kokopeli on the post. and a smaller covered gate I made going into the front. ring any bells? the church bought it and turned it into a food pantry and community building

are you in ABQ now?

805 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:22:44pm

re: #775 reine.de.tout

I'd send my chili recipe, but it's never the same ingredients when I make it.
But I made it last night. 'Twas so good for a chilly, windy, rainy, need to wear sox and sleeves Hawaiian night........mmmmmmmmm......and leftovers tonight....with french bread......and still needing to wear sox and sleeves.

806 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:22:51pm

re: #795 Sharmuta

This position get me the lovely title of RINO in some circles, BTW.

I hear they have even thicker skin than lizards.

807 rawmuse  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:22:52pm

re: #798 rawmuse

Please describe your self in 25 words or less.

Concise

808 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:23:06pm

re: #792 ploome hineni

I am getting a new pair

The 36DD's aren't working so well any more?

;-)

809 Cato the Elder  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:23:26pm

PAM GELLER ALERT:

There is a website called "Muslims Against Sharia".

Sounds like a good idea, right?

Only problem is, it's a fraud. One of the main contributors: Our Lady of Atlas Shrugs.

The site exists in three versions - English, Swedish, and Russian. Hmm. No Urdu. No Punjabi. No Pashto, Persian, Uzbek, Turkmen, Malay…in other words, none of the languages spoken by the vast majority of the world’s Muslims. But this is a group that claims to be an international Islamic reform movement. Odd.

More here.

810 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:23:44pm

re: #798 rawmuse

Please describe your self in 25 words or less.

Yourself - A reflexive pronoun is a pronoun that is preceded by the noun or pronoun to which it refers (its antecedent) within the same clause.

811 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:23:48pm

re: #796 Mich-again

No- not all species fight for mates. There is female selection as well- and this is when displays or songs, etc. come into the factor.

BBIAB

812 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:24:27pm

re: #775 reine.de.tout

Plenty of fodder here tonight for VOL 2 of the cookbook!

Send in those recipes!
Or Sharmuta will yell at you.
And Ploome will put her cranky pants back on.

Any preferences for categories? I was thinking you might try for a theme of some sort. You know, frog legs, anole haunch, stewed newt, gator nuggets, spicy cayman........

(I'm visualizing cannibalizing the cover on the last book)

813 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:24:33pm

re: #809 Cato the Elder

Wow!

again- BBIAB

814 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:24:35pm

re: #800 realwest

LOL! Or wait until Obama gets those printing presses working 24/7 then we can repay China with dollars that are worth 25% of what they were when China bought the Treasuries!

Roll them out in dump trucks a la the Weimar Republic, eh?

"Here you go Chairman, your freshly printed American Dollars. Nice doing business with you"

815 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:24:36pm

re: #796 Mich-again

In the animal world that means just waiting for the males to fight it out. In the human world its quite a bit different. Actually if you want to get closer to the animal method for choosing a spouse, it would make sense to just go back to letting the parents arrange the whole thing. I don't see anyone signing up for that when they are 18. But by the time they are 30 and divorced I wonder how many people wonder if mom and dad could have picked a better spouse.

The problem with arranged marriages is that either you have smart sensible parents who get it right, or you have parents who get it WRONG. I know people in both kinds of arranged marriages.

816 rawmuse  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:25:39pm

re: #815 SanFranciscoZionist

Stay away from first cousins. It's just... sad.

817 ladycatnip  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:26:03pm

OT

Hillary announces new scholarships for Palestinian students

Ramallah, West Bank — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has announced a new million-dollar scholarship program to help Palestinian students enroll at Palestinian and American universities...

Have we no say with our tax dollars? First 900M (read 1Billion) of our tax dollars goes to Gaza; now scholarships in addition to the 900M. These loons are bankrupting our country.

I'm sick to my stomach.

818 Macker  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:26:17pm

re: #713 Sharmuta

Jupiter's Great Red Spot Is Shrinking

I blame climate change. Oh wait:

Somebody call al goracle and get him to Jupiter!

Before it turns into Lucifer:

819 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:26:23pm

re: #801 pink freud

NO UPDINGS?! I thought that one was purty doggone good.

I'll give you one just for touting your own (pun)

820 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:26:30pm

re: #816 rawmuse

Stay away from first cousins. It's just... sad Saudi.

821 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:26:43pm

re: #776 pink freud Ah ok, I thought y'all were talking about mortgage loans - but you can put me down for boycotting China AND GE.
And for what little it's worth, Buffet has put most of his eggs in two alternative energy sources: Windmill power and ethanol. Ethanol is a loser and hardly anyone else had sincerely jumped on the windmill bandwagon.
I think there's a very distinct Warren Buffet will lose his shirt!*

For him, losing his shirt would mean he'd be down to his last, oh, $500 million or so.

822 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:26:48pm

re: #812 Naso Tang

Any preferences for categories? I was thinking you might try for a theme of some sort. You know, frog legs, anole haunch, stewed newt, gator nuggets, spicy cayman........

(I'm visualizing cannibalizing the cover on the last book)

I'm hoping people will either come up with creative titles, OR not be offended if we come up with creative titles for the recipes.

Jaunte will do new cover art - trying to figure out a theme now. If he's around, maybe he'll throw out some ideas.

823 rumcrook  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:26:53pm

re: #804 albusteve

no,.. after my wife passed away I ended up moving north to colorado springs for work oportunities. but

im wearing my new mexico shirt as I type.

I miss dos hermanos in the plaza on 4th st something terrible. and going to isotopes games. I helped build the new stadium. my name is on that brass plaque thing when you walk in

824 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:27:03pm

re: #816 rawmuse

Stay away from first cousins. It's just... sad Mississippi .

FTFY

825 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:27:30pm

re: #759 The Shadow Do

And then there is Obama who finds that if they survive abortion then ...kill 'em!

You know the history of that bill. No one is killing babies born alive under current law. The objection to the new law was defining a fetus that was born alive was then a baby, regardless of viability. That was simply written in to open the door to deciding when life begins even if the fetus is not viable. From the fact check web site.

"What we can say is that many other people – perhaps most – think of "infanticide" as the killing of an infant that would otherwise live. And there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion. Illinois compiled statute 720 ILCS 510/6 states that physicians performing abortions when the fetus is viable must use the procedure most likely to preserve the fetus' life; must be attended by another physician who can care for a born-alive infant; and must "exercise the same degree of professional skill, care and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as would be required of a physician providing immediate medical care to a child born alive in the course of a pregnancy termination which was not an abortion." Failure to do any of the above is considered a felony. "

826 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:27:41pm

re: #815 SanFranciscoZionist

I know people in both kinds of arranged marriages.

I don't know anyone who was part of an arranged marriage. That just seems so crazy to me.

827 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:28:22pm

re: #793 rumcrook

you must go past my old house to get back and forth from the west side to the east side every once in a while, I owned the house just to the west of that big church which is a couple blocks west of 4th st on montano. it has the big red brown plank fence up next to the sidewalk and the gate has a design of acoma pottery I painted on it and a copper lizard. theres also a steel kokopeli on the post. and a smaller covered gate I made going into the front. ring any bells? the church bought it and turned it into a food pantry and community building

I found it, on Google Maps. I see the stuff on the gate, on the east side of the lot.

Here

828 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:28:43pm

re: #817 ladycatnip

OT

Hillary announces new scholarships for Palestinian students

Have we no say with our tax dollars? First 900M (read 1Billion) of our tax dollars goes to Gaza; now scholarships in addition to the 900M. These loons are bankrupting our country.

I'm sick to my stomach.

I think the quaint idea is that if we educate enough of their potential leaders, they will come to love us. The problem is that those who fail the course will go back, and those who pass will get green cards and stay here.

829 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:29:01pm

re: #789 Racer X
ROFL! That was SO BAD it was good! LOL!

830 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:29:04pm

re: #817 ladycatnip

OT

Hillary announces new scholarships for Palestinian students

Have we no say with our tax dollars? First 900M (read 1Billion) of our tax dollars goes to Gaza; now scholarships in addition to the 900M. These loons are bankrupting our country.

I'm sick to my stomach.

Let me guess - "metal shop"?

831 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:29:21pm

re: #821 realwest

Ah ok, I thought y'all were talking about mortgage loans - but you can put me down for boycotting China AND GE.
And for what little it's worth, Buffet has put most of his eggs in two alternative energy sources: Windmill power and ethanol. Ethanol is a loser and hardly anyone else had sincerely jumped on the windmill bandwagon.
I think there's a very distinct Warren Buffet will lose his shirt!*

For him, losing his shirt would mean he'd be down to his last, oh, $500 million or so.

I can't boycott China. I have a Chinese mouse, motherboard, monitor, speakers, hard drive, printer, flight controller, telephone, fans, headphones, camera, etc.

Todo esta Hecho en China!

//

832 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:29:31pm

re: #823 rumcrook

after my wife passed away I ended up moving north to colorado springs for work oportunities.

That's where I live now, although I'm in Golden at the moment.

I moved from Albuquerque to Santa Fe, and then to Colorado Springs.

833 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:29:32pm

re: #826 Mich-again

I don't know anyone who was part of an arranged marriage. That just seems so crazy to me.

Obama and Soros are an arranged marriage.

834 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:30:01pm

Time to go.

Nite.

835 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:30:12pm

re: #817 ladycatnip

OT

Hillary announces new scholarships for Palestinian students

Have we no say with our tax dollars? First 900M (read 1Billion) of our tax dollars goes to Gaza; now scholarships in addition to the 900M. These loons are bankrupting our country.

I'm sick to my stomach.

So this is the new American Way? Didn't we already try the Kissing the Palestinians Ass Method a few years ago? I seem to recall that strategy did not work so well. What makes our current bunch of "rulers" think they will get a different result?

836 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:30:27pm

re: #817 ladycatnip

OT

Hillary announces new scholarships for Palestinian students

Have we no say with our tax dollars? First 900M (read 1Billion) of our tax dollars goes to Gaza; now scholarships in addition to the 900M. These loons are bankrupting our country.

I'm sick to my stomach.

OK, we're going to let people into this country who have been raised in an intensely anti-American atmosphere and we're send them tto places here that are anti-American. Does Hillary like seeing America hated?

837 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:30:30pm

re: #834 Naso Tang

Time to go.

Nite.

Nite!

838 rumcrook  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:30:30pm

re: #827 Ward Cleaver

holy crap thats my white pickup in the backyard!

839 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:30:32pm

re: #822 reine.de.tout

1929-1935 themes? Soup kitchen, Lizard Joads in jalopies, bread lines...
Or is that too depressing?

840 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:31:17pm

re: #816 rawmuse

Stay away from first cousins. It's just... sad.

My great-grandparents were first cousins. There were no snowplows then, just shovels, and Jews weren't allowed to own shovels wider than seven and a quarter inches. As a result getting to the next shtetl to find someone you weren't related to was a four-day tunnelling exercise, and boys had been lost in the snow and not found for months, so most people gave up and married their cousins.

/Well, they actually were first cousins.

841 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:31:39pm

re: #830 Ward Cleaver

Let me guess - "metal shop"?

Rocket Science 101...

/S

842 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:31:48pm

re: #823 rumcrook

no,.. after my wife passed away I ended up moving north to colorado springs for work oportunities. but

im wearing my new mexico shirt as I type.

I miss dos hermanos in the plaza on 4th st something terrible. and going to isotopes games. I helped build the new stadium. my name is on that brass plaque thing when you walk in

starting tomorrow I will celebrate you life here for a moment or two....NM is here when you come back amigo

843 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:31:53pm

re: #838 rumcrook

holy crap thats my white pickup in the backyard!

Ain't it cool?

844 lostlakehiker  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:32:06pm

re: #42 Desert Dog

Ward Churchill and his ilk only exists because of the leftist cesspool the universities have become. He and others like him cannot exist outside of the imaginary world that academia has constructed around themselves. It's not an ivory tower, it is a teetering pile of BS....all supported by the tax payers and clueless university benefactors. They cannot get a "real" job in the "real" world because they are blood sucking leeches, incapable of supporting themselves with honest work.

Now that's not fair to Universities, and not fair to Colorado. Ward Churchill was forced upon CO by affirmative action laws. They managed to put him in a department that wasn't a real department, and they hung him for a fraud when he gave them sufficient rope to do so. Meanwhile, the work of chemistry, biology, and statistics goes forward. Foreign languages, civil engineering, economics, and maybe even English literature are taught. Somebody has to take care of all this, and that's Universities.

845 rumcrook  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:32:27pm

re: #832 lobo91

I like it here, still,... part of my heart rests in albuquerque.

I own a house just east of the springs in falcon

846 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:32:30pm
847 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:33:16pm

re: #809 Cato the Elder

Ha! Just yesterday she slammed Daniel Pipes as a "propagandist" for claiming that moderate Islam is feasible.

848 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:34:02pm

Speaking of maps, they haven't blurred out W's new house here in Dallas.

849 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:34:14pm

re: #811 Sharmuta

No- not all species fight for mates. There is female selection as well- and this is when displays or songs, etc. come into the factor.

BBIAB

One of the more amazing examples:

850 The Shadow Do  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:34:16pm

re: #825 avanti

You know the history of that bill. No one is killing babies born alive under current law. The objection to the new law was defining a fetus that was born alive was then a baby, regardless of viability. That was simply written in to open the door to deciding when life begins even if the fetus is not viable. From the fact check web site.

"What we can say is that many other people – perhaps most – think of "infanticide" as the killing of an infant that would otherwise live. And there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion. Illinois compiled statute 720 ILCS 510/6 states that physicians performing abortions when the fetus is viable must use the procedure most likely to preserve the fetus' life; must be attended by another physician who can care for a born-alive infant; and must "exercise the same degree of professional skill, care and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as would be required of a physician providing immediate medical care to a child born alive in the course of a pregnancy termination which was not an abortion." Failure to do any of the above is considered a felony. "

Well, well well. It turns out he is against late term abortion after all? Who knew? Thanks Avanti!

851 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:34:25pm

re: #848 Ward Cleaver

Speaking of maps, they haven't blurred out W's new house here in Dallas.

Oops, forgot the link.

852 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:34:30pm

re: #845 rumcrook

I like it here, still,... part of my heart rests in albuquerque.

I own a house just east of the springs in falcon

I live right next to the park that's adjacent to the East Library, near Academy and Union.

853 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:34:49pm

woz was cheated on DWTS

854 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:34:59pm

re: #847 Killgore Trout

Ha! Just yesterday she slammed Daniel Pipes as a "propagandist" for claiming that moderate Islam is feasible.

What? Slammed Daniel Pipes as a propagandist? That's laughable.

855 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:35:26pm

re: #839 jaunte

1929-1935 themes? Soup kitchen, Lizard Joads in jalopies, bread lines...
Or is that too depressing?

EVERYBODY-
Vol 2 theme ideas.
Think about this, and let us have your thoughts (either me or Jaunte) when you see us around.

856 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:35:27pm

re: #809 Cato the Elder

PAM GELLER ALERT:

There is a website called "Muslims Against Sharia".

Sounds like a good idea, right?

Only problem is, it's a fraud. One of the main contributors: Our Lady of Atlas Shrugs.

More here.

Busted.

857 rumcrook  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:35:36pm

re: #842 albusteve

Im hoping some day....

ive got to drive down in a couple months for family stuff. and I usually get my green chile and some frozen rellenos from the place on 4th to bring back with me.

858 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:35:58pm
859 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:36:11pm

re: #826 Mich-again

I don't know anyone who was part of an arranged marriage. That just seems so crazy to me.

My high school friend's mom was married to a man she had met once when she was sixteen. This was China, in the 1960s. He paid a bride price and took her to America.

He's frankly, a complete bastard. I occasionally wish I could find T's grandfather and kick his ass for sending his daughter off with this man.

860 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:36:26pm

re: #809 Cato the Elder
Hello Cato my friend! That was interesting to say the least (at least the revelations about Pam - didn't know she'd actually said, in writing no less, that Obama was Malcom X's love child!) but somehow the connection between her and this new muslim group eluded me.
Perhaps I need to read it more carefully when I get the chance.

861 Dianna  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:36:34pm

re: #833 Afrocity

Obama and Soros are an arranged marriage.

It sure looks that way.

I knew someone whose first marriage was arranged. It didn't work out.

862 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:36:39pm

re: #857 rumcrook

ive got to drive down in a couple months for family stuff. and I usually get my green chile and some frozen rellenos from the place on 4th to bring back with me.

Sounds like my trips home...

863 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:36:55pm

re: #846 ploome hineni

.....so then the people went out and captured animals and put them in a cage where they can be watched and stared at

stripped of their nature and dignity

and when it is the nature of the animal to resist being caged and stared at, the people know how to neuter and destroy nature

stories like this makes me sick..

I saw this earlier too, and wondered why this animal would be throwing these stones. There's something not right with his environment, to make him do this day after day after day.

864 albusteve  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:36:59pm

re: #857 rumcrook

Im hoping some day....

ive got to drive down in a couple months for family stuff. and I usually get my green chile and some frozen rellenos from the place on 4th to bring back with me.

4th st is my turf...it's a good vibe down here

865 rumcrook  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:37:29pm

re: #852 lobo91

im always cruisin thru there.

866 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:37:32pm

re: #809 Cato the Elder

These idiots seem to be trying to cover all bases on the discrediting of the 'anti-jihad movement'.

867 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:37:38pm

re: #828 Naso Tang

I think the quaint idea is that if we educate enough of their potential leaders, they will come to love us. The problem is that those who fail the course will go back, and those who pass will get green cards and stay here.

Invest in leadership for Africa, that's my recommendation. Female, in particular. I really liked what I saw of Oprah's school, I was sorry they had to deal with a scandal so soon.

868 rawmuse  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:37:45pm

My Chinese reflexologist was married to a Communist party boss during the Great Leap Forward. Arranged marriage. She does not have much nice to say about the entire experience.

869 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:37:49pm

re: #816 rawmuse
Not only does marrying first cousins create sadness, it also creates a family tree with no brances!

870 Mr Spiffy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:37:50pm

re: #33 mikalm

Hey, a Hank Williams Sr. reference!

I have been saying for years there's Hank Williams and Hank Williams Sr.
( Yes, Grasshopper the son has exceeded the father)

871 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:38:51pm

re: #839 jaunte

1929-1935 themes? Soup kitchen, Lizard Joads in jalopies, bread lines...
Or is that too depressing?

I think that's a great idea! Money saving recipes and victory garden type tips.

872 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:38:52pm

re: #808 pink freud

re: #858 ploome hineni

:P

pair of cranky pants, silly

he sees those DD's, he'll be PANTing!

873 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:39:34pm

re: #854 Gus 802

Read her post about Geert from yesterday.

874 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:40:35pm

re: #871 Killgore Trout

I think that's a great idea! Money saving recipes and victory garden type tips.

I could use a good 5-day pork chop Udon recipe.

875 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:40:40pm

re: #871 Killgore Trout

I think that's a great idea! Money saving recipes and victory garden type tips.

Please send in your 4-day pork-chop dish.

876 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:41:00pm

re: #831 Gus 802
Ah but you already HAVE THEM. So NOW you can boycott China! LOL!

877 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:41:14pm

re: #873 Killgore Trout

Read her post about Geert from yesterday.

No, thanks. If I want to hear a vicious bitch, I'll listen to Michelle Obama.

//

878 lobo91  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:41:20pm

Night, all.

879 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:41:32pm

re: #873 Killgore Trout

Read her post about Geert from yesterday.

What's the link and what was the title? Somehow I can imagine if being called "The Final Solution."

880 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:41:37pm

re: #844 lostlakehiker

Now that's not fair to Universities, and not fair to Colorado. Ward Churchill was forced upon CO by affirmative action laws. They managed to put him in a department that wasn't a real department, and they hung him for a fraud when he gave them sufficient rope to do so. Meanwhile, the work of chemistry, biology, and statistics goes forward. Foreign languages, civil engineering, economics, and maybe even English literature are taught. Somebody has to take care of all this, and that's Universities.

I spent two years in Boulder in the 80's working in my History/Poly Sci degree. I ended up transferring to UCD down at Auraria to finish it off. The PolySci department was home to a bunch commie loving scumbags back then. I got "C's" or "D's" on papers that called them out on their explaining away the Soviets and the ChiComs...and "F's" when I defended Reagan.

To be fair, I love the History professors I had there and I really like Boulder as a town. Going down to Pearl Street for a brew...driving up Boulder Canyon and lighting one up...skiing at NIGHT at Eldora! I miss Colorado BAD now that I'm living here in the desert.

Churchill is far from a typical professor, but depending on the department, he's not too far from some either....especially the Liberal Arts. It's hard for a Chem Prof to be a flaming Moonbat.....
CU is a good school. CSU as well

881 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:42:03pm

re: #832 lobo91
You live in Golden, Colorado? Y'all must be near Walter I. Newton then!
Have you two ever met?

882 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:42:36pm

re: #876 realwest

Ah but you already HAVE THEM. So NOW you can boycott China! LOL!

Yeah, and you know you can try but it won't be easy. A lot of things are manufactured in China particularly electronics.

883 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:42:49pm

re: #870 Mr Spiffy

Have you seen Hank Williams III? Not only does he look eerily like his Grandpa, but he does this bizarre combination of ultra-traditional C&W and punk/speed-metal in his shows.

884 rumcrook  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:43:11pm

re: #864 albusteve

yeah north valley is the best! I miss it real bad sometimes. like how I lived in the city but I had chickens wondering around my yard. (used to get them at that feed store just up fourth about a mile or so past montano. or how I could get just about anywhere in alb. a few minutes from 4th. want churchs chicken? boom done. want a great combination plate boom your at casa benevidas

885 rumcrook  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:43:44pm

re: #878 lobo91

night lobo

886 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:44:07pm

Iran: Hostile drones disrupted our satellite launch

Hostile unmanned aerial vehicles overflew Iran last month and disrupted the communications systems at the launch site of a missile carrying Iran's first satellite to space, according to the country's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The Iranian leader was quoted by an Iranian news agency as having said in recent discussions that the disruptions of communications caused a delay of several hours to the launch of the rocket, which had to be operated with the use of a backup system.

Ahmadinejad said drones flew at very high altitude and used sophisticated electronic equipment to jam ground-based systems. He also said that a decision was made to shoot down the drones with fighter planes, but it was decided not to do so for reasons he did not explain.

Meir Jabandafar, an expert on Iran, told Haaretz on Monday that Israel is presumed to be the No. 1 suspect for this operation.

/peek a boo, they see you

887 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:45:35pm

re: #883 mikalm

Have you seen Hank Williams III? Not only does he look eerily like his Grandpa, but he does this bizarre combination of ultra-traditional C&W and punk/speed-metal in his shows.

Is he carrying on his Family Tradition?

888 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:45:43pm

I should drop a line about this "Muslims Against Sharia" thing to Jewcy, apparently they've got some kind of link there.

889 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:45:45pm

re: #851 Ward Cleaver
Wow, that's some spread he's got there! Almost as big as Rev Wright has.
/

890 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:47:06pm

re: #850 The Shadow Do

Well, well well. It turns out he is against late term abortion after all? Who knew? Thanks Avanti!

I never said that. I have mixed feelings about late term abortions myself. About 1 % of abortions are done after 24 weeks, and it should be even rarer. A fetus that has only has no chance of long time survival. or who might kill the mother for example would be the rare exception, but not the mental health of the mother or convenience if the mother. I don't agree with a flat ban, but it should be more regulated then it now is IMHO. Once the fetus is viable, it's a extreme position to take the decision lightly. I'm glad we have courts we weigh decisions as difficult as those.

891 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:47:12pm

Wow! A cure for AIDS!

I wonder if Rev. Wright know about this?

892 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:47:43pm

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Jupiter's Great Red Spot Is Shrinking

Al Gores next Crusade

"SUV's are shrinking our Red Spot"

//

893 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:48:38pm

re: #886 Killian Bundy

Iran: Hostile drones disrupted our satellite launch

/peek a boo, they see you

Ahmadinejad said drones flew at very high altitude and used sophisticated electronic equipment to jam ground-based systems. He also said that a decision was made to shoot down the drones with fighter planes, but it was decided not to do so for reasons he did not explain.

It's hard to shoot down something that only exists in Short Shits mind. Iran should consider putting Short Shit on the Lobotomy short list...

894 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:48:52pm

re: #892 sattv4u2

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Jupiter's Great Red Spot Is Shrinking

Al Gores next Crusade

"SUV's are shrinking our Red Spot"

//

SAVE THE GREAT RED SPOT!

895 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:49:22pm

re: #893 Dustyvet

Ahmadinejad said drones flew at very high altitude and used sophisticated electronic equipment to jam ground-based systems. He also said that a decision was made to shoot down the drones with fighter planes, but it was decided not to do so for reasons he did not explain.

It's hard to shoot down something that only exists in Short Shits mind. Iran should consider putting Short Shit on the Lobotomy short list...

You mean the first one did not work?

896 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:50:07pm

re: #893 Dustyvet

Ahmadinejad said drones flew at very high altitude and used sophisticated electronic equipment to jam ground-based systems. He also said that a decision was made to shoot down the drones with fighter planes, but it was decided not to do so for reasons he did not explain.

It's hard to shoot down something that only exists in Short Shits mind. Iran should consider putting Short Shit on the Lobotomy short list...

RQ-3 Darkstar!

897 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:50:30pm

re: #895 Desert Dog

You mean the first one did not work?

Nope...:)

/S

898 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:50:38pm

OT but very good:

The Great Destabilization

Mark Steyn on Gordon Browns visit and Obama's agenda. Here's the money quote for me:

And that was before Obama made clear that for him the economy takes a very distant back seat to the massive expansion of government for which it provides cover. That’s why he’s indifferent to the plummeting Dow. The president has made a strategic calculation that, to advance his plans for socialized health care, “green energy,” and a big-government state, it’s to his advantage for things to get worse. And, if things go from bad to worse in America, overseas they’ll go from worse to total societal collapse. We’ve already seen changes of government in Iceland and Latvia, rioting in Greece and Bulgaria. The great destabilization is starting on the fringes of Europe and working its way to the Continent’s center.

899 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:50:43pm

re: #891 jcm

Wow! A cure for AIDS!



I wonder if Rev. Wright know about this?

Cheese it ,, they're on to us ,,,,, change the secret code to the BLUE BOOK!

900 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:50:47pm

re: #893 Dustyvet

Yeah, but wouldn't he need a brain first in order to qualify for the lobotomy?

901 rumcrook  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:51:19pm

hey Ward Cleaver google even shows a pic of the gate I made by hand myself! how do they do that?!re: #827 Ward Cleaver

902 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:51:30pm

re: #893 Dustyvet
Actually, I think the reason Iran didn't scramble it's fighters was cause they were afraid they'd shoot each other down!

Hey any word on Tiger yet?

903 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:51:36pm

re: #900 Gus 802

Yeah, but wouldn't he need a brain first in order to qualify for the lobotomy?

Uh, uh, uh...let me get back to you on that one...:)

904 Salem  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:52:14pm

This guy has long rambling conversations with his friends consisting only of the single word "Dude!" So he says "Dudes!", i.e.-You guys going to the Churchill trial? Truth to power! and they responded "Dude!", meaning: Naw, man, Churchill is so pre-Obama. Anyway, it sounds like a total sausage-fest.

905 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:52:15pm

re: #903 Dustyvet

Uh, uh, uh...let me get back to you on that one...:)

OK, bring a flashlight.

//

906 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:52:16pm

re: #873 Killgore Trout

She's nutso. I've decided that the spelling mistakes in the post titles are her way of adding emphasis to already fully capitalised headlines. "BIRTH CERTIFICATE!" merely shouts, as does everything else on her site, but "NIRTH CERTIFIKIT!" clearly conveys that this is a mad person doing the shouting.

907 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:52:20pm

re: #887 Desert Dog

Is he carrying on his Family Tradition?

Here's a NSFWparody/cover/tribute version of that song by the infamous GG Allin, who was apparently a sincere fan of Hanks Sr. and Jr., and in turn was an influence on Hank III.

908 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:53:31pm

re: #896 jcm
Cool! How are ya tonight jcm?

909 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:53:51pm

re: #902 realwest

Actually, I think the reason Iran didn't scramble it's fighters was cause they were afraid they'd shoot each other down!

Hey any word on Tiger yet?

None...:( Abs I've called three times regarding the bill...

910 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:54:45pm

re: #895 Desert Dog

You mean the first one did not work?

Here's the story about it's orbit

911 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:55:25pm

re: #910 avanti

Here's the story about it's orbit

I was talking about his lobotomy....ha ha

912 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:55:40pm

re: #875 reine.de.tout

Will do. I'm still experimenting with my Udon recipe. The traditional broth ingredients are a little exotic so I'm working on simplifying for stuff that normal people could find and be willing to eat.

913 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:56:30pm

re: #907 mikalm

Great version.....the mark of a great song...sounds good when people from different genre's take it on

914 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:56:30pm

re: #908 realwest

Cool! How are ya tonight jcm?

Kids are in bed, a cold Copper Hook Spring Ale in celebration of today's frozen Gorebul Warming, some leftover Chinese noodles and LGF!

Couldn't be better.

915 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:56:39pm

re: #911 Desert Dog

I was talking about his lobotomy....ha ha

Going over to a quiet corner and knitting a Tank Cozy...


/S

916 Bobblehead  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:56:58pm
917 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:58:17pm

re: #911 Desert Dog

I was talking about his lobotomy....ha ha

Omid, the Iranian satellite off the East Coast, for a few minutes.

918 Optimizer  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:59:09pm

re: #709 Desert Dog

She [Coulter] should temper her sharp wit with some forethought. She is hilarious when she's "on". She's downright mean when she's not.....

Yeah, sometimes she's really good. But most of the time she's just saying what the extremist on the right are too polite to say out loud. She's the far-right, with Tourette's Syndrome.

919 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:59:23pm

re: #917 jcm

Omid, the Iranian satellite off the East Coast, for a few minutes.

With luck, maybe it'll fall in...:)

920 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 9:59:39pm

re: #917 jcm

Omid, the Iranian satellite off the East Coast, for a few minutes.

Omid means HOPE in Farsi...if that is not irony, I do not know what is.........

921 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:00:26pm

re: #916 Bobblehead

It Takes a Button

Great piece.

"All things considered, the gaffe was the result either A or B:

A) The Obama administration is made of pig-headed, tone-deaf people, who don't expect other cultures to have nuances - and so they don't bother to consult with experts.

B) Experts chosen by the Obama administration are incompetent sycophants who got hired because they were political hacks, or as a result of favoritism, nepotism, or affirmative action - and they will uncritically ramrod their bosses' ideas even if it's contrary to reality and common sense.

Either way we're screwed."

922 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:01:06pm

re: #898 Dark_Falcon
That was a terrific article by Mr. Steyn. All of it.
But I have to disagree with his conclusion (which you quoted): I don't think Obama wants America to fall below a certain level economically speaking, and is sufficiently narcissistic to believe he can magically stop the collapse when he chooses to.
In other words, I think President Obama is a fucking moron.

923 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:01:28pm

Sorry, as I've only been here a short time but I'm fading. Night all.

924 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:02:06pm

re: #896 jcm

RQ-3 Darkstar!

I was referring to the usual blame Israel BS...

925 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:02:47pm

re: #924 Dustyvet

I was referring to the usual blame Israel BS...

Okay we sold a few to Israel!

926 jaunte  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:03:11pm

Goodnight all. Send Reine your cheap food/recipe ideas...

927 stevieray  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:03:19pm

re: #907 mikalm

I thought I was the only one who remembered GG.

A real piece of work, he was.

928 RememberSekhmet?  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:03:23pm

Funny, the only tribe I can see most of Ward Churchill's followers as being are the Cherohonkeys.

929 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:03:34pm

re: #909 Dustyvet
I honestly think that three times is enough. As I advised you before my friend, please try not to worry about things that haven't and may not ever occur.

930 The Shadow Do  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:03:45pm

re: #890 avanti

I never said that. I have mixed feelings about late term abortions myself. About 1 % of abortions are done after 24 weeks, and it should be even rarer. A fetus that has only has no chance of long time survival. or who might kill the mother for example would be the rare exception, but not the mental health of the mother or convenience if the mother. I don't agree with a flat ban, but it should be more regulated then it now is IMHO. Once the fetus is viable, it's a extreme position to take the decision lightly. I'm glad we have courts we weigh decisions as difficult as those.

Well then, you seem relatively sensible though outside present limitations or lack thereof. Unlike some you may know? By the way, why do you trust difficult decisions to the courts?
Courts really are just a handful of people with an opinion and an agenda you know. Legislatures, barring gross gerrymander, are a reasonable reflection of their constituents; courts are a reasonable reflection of the resultant elected politicos. Are they somehow superior in their wisdom in your opinion?

931 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:04:17pm

Yea, getting late, nite all.

932 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:04:22pm

re: #925 jcm

Okay we sold a few to Israel!

otays...:) umm, did we through in the Spy squirrels?


/////SSSSS

933 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:04:47pm

re: #922 realwest

That was a terrific article by Mr. Steyn. All of it.
But I have to disagree with his conclusion (which you quoted): I don't think Obama wants America to fall below a certain level economically speaking, and is sufficiently narcissistic to believe he can magically stop the collapse when he chooses to.
In other words, I think President Obama is a fucking moron.

I respectfully disagree. Obama is narcissistic enough to try a stunt like that, at least in my mind. But his motive are of secondary import. We both know he is failing and we both now how he is failing and we have a good idea about what we would do instead. On the points of primary import, you and I agree.

That's really all folks.

934 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:05:19pm

re: #929 realwest

I honestly think that three times is enough. As I advised you before my friend, please try not to worry about things that haven't and may not ever occur.

I'm trying very hard in that department.

935 Bobblehead  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:05:46pm

Relationship advice from our Dear Leader via Iowahawk

......Sometimes, though, the occasion calls for a gift with the warm "personal touch" that reflects the personality and tastes of the recipient. For example, my wife Michelle is very involved with fashion, fitness, and beauty, so for our 10th anniversary I gave her a Norelco heavy duty personal ear and nose hair groomer. Sure, it was expensive, but that glare of delight in her eyes was more than enough payback for the $89.95 price plus $20 for shipping and monogramming. When I sent Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to meet with a Russian delegation last week, she brought along a cute novelty "panic button" from Spencer Gifts that my staff relabeled with the Russian word for "Reset" as a humorous token of America's new gentler approach to diplomacy. Even though they pointed out the word actually translates as "Vaporize," the Russians still had a good laugh because I think they understood where we were coming from. It was such a hit that later this year when we meet with the Iranians we are planning to bring along a Big Mouth Billy Bass that sings "Don't Worry Be Happy" in Farsi. If there's anything I've learned about international relations, it is to bring a fun gift and leave the attitude and preconditions behind.
936 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:06:45pm

re: #756 Racer X

How to Survive a Bear Attack

Ha! I liked that. Here's a good one:

How to completely f*ck up a bear's sh*t with a stick.

Note: Do not attempt unless you are a total badass.

937 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:06:58pm

re: #914 jcm
Amen to that one brother! BTW, it got to 82 degrees here. Exactly one week after we had 5 inches of snow and high temps of 29.
I think of Al Gore every day, but can't really say out here WHAT I think about Al Gore. But part of it does have something to do with the primary meaning of his last name!

938 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:07:18pm

re: #913 Desert Dog

Yup. Punk degenerate that he was, Allin actually identified more with Hank Sr. than any other punk icon, and he followed a similarly rootless, self-destructive career.

I read a book by John Gilmore where he described going to Hank's last L.A. gig around 1952, and meeting the legendary figure backstage. Gilmore's description actually made Hank Sr. sound more like GG than country purists might have liked: he was all whacked out on booze and pills, p!ssing his pants, and just being an obnoxious pain in the ass to everyone around him.

939 avanti  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:07:31pm

re: #930 The Shadow Do

Well then, you seem relatively sensible though outside present limitations or lack thereof. Unlike some you may know? By the way, why do you trust difficult decisions to the courts?
Courts really are just a handful of people with an opinion and an agenda you know. Legislatures, barring gross gerrymander, are a reasonable reflection of their constituents; courts are a reasonable reflection of the resultant elected politicos. Are they somehow superior in their wisdom in your opinion?

Shadow, courts are all we have when it comes to difficult decisions about how to interpret legislation.

940 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:07:41pm

re: #935 Bobblehead

Relationship advice from our Dear Leader via Iowahawk

A Big Mouth Billy Bass that sings "Don't Worry, Be Happy" in Farsi.

You know, if nothing else, that might convince the Iranians that we are so ****ing crazy they'd better not screw with us.

941 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:08:36pm

Obama's wiki entry.......

No Wright, Ayers, Resko, Alinsky in the footnotes once, no voted present.

Newsbusters

At least he's not a concert penist.

942 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:09:29pm

re: #932 Dustyvet

otays...:) umm, did we through in the Spy squirrels?

/////SSSSS

LOL! We should ask Diana's squirrel.

943 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:09:44pm

re: #935 Bobblehead

Iowahawk is one funny guy, that is for sure

944 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:10:10pm

This is rich. Obama's failing with the economy so he's "mustering" the old campaign machine in order to garner support for his plan:

"US President Barack Obama mustered his powerful campaign army on Monday, calling on his millions of supporters to lobby on behalf of his budget and economic plan. The appeal to back the president was made in an email and video sent out by "Organizing for America," the organization which morphed out of Obama's campaign machinery to push his agenda when he entered the White House.

In the video, Mitch Stewart, the director of Organizing for America, urged the president's supporters to take part in the "Organizing for America Pledge Project. The pledge project is an ambitious effort to map out and identify support for President Obama's economic blueprint across towns and communities in America," Stewart said.

We're doing that by asking people to pledge your support for the broad initiatives outlined in President Obama's economic plan. Once you do, we will ask you to build support in your own communities by forwarding this pledge by email, by knocking on doors and by making phone call," he said... "

More smoke and mirrors for the minions.

945 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:11:27pm

re: #892 sattv4u2

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Jupiter's Great Red Spot Is Shrinking

Al Gores next Crusade

"SUV's are shrinking our Red Spot"

//

"It's SHRINKING!"

946 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:12:27pm

re: #941 jcm

Obama's wiki entry.......

No Wright, Ayers, Resko, Alinsky in the footnotes once, no voted present.

Newsbusters

At least he's not a concert penist.

George W Bush wiki. Not a total slam down....actually, fairly balanced.....why can't we have one like that with Obama, eh Wiki?

947 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:13:18pm

re: #934 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty, I'm trying really hard to listen to my own advice - don't sweat it, just keep on trying.

And btw, how is Tiger feeling and acting these days?

948 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:14:35pm

Liberal Commentator at dying paper.....

Who will speak truth to power?

The daily fish wrapper may die. Its values must live.

The author Joel Connelly, was complicit in vote fraud in WA State. Who speaks truth? Not you or that rag you dare call a paper.

949 mikalm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:14:51pm

Oops - it's bedtime here at the Pleasure Palace.

'night, Lizards! :-)

950 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:15:52pm

re: #947 realwest

Hey Dusty, I'm trying really hard to listen to my own advice - don't sweat it, just keep on trying.

And btw, how is Tiger feeling and acting these days?

He's doing fine, getting his spirit back, he played tag with me a couple of hours ago. He's doing very well with his diet.

951 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:16:13pm

Someone on here has mentioned it before, I found this on Wiki about the KKK

The first Klan was founded in 1865 by veterans of the Confederate Army. Its purpose was to restore white supremacy in the aftermath of the American Civil War. The Klan resisted Reconstruction by intimidating freedmen and white Republicans, members of the abolitionist movement. The KKK quickly adopted violent methods. The increase in murders finally resulted in a backlash among Southern elites who viewed the Klan's excesses as an excuse for federal troops to continue occupation.

Were the KKK members mostly democrats?

952 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:17:02pm

re: #951 Afrocity

Someone on here has mentioned it before, I found this on Wiki about the KKK

Were the KKK members mostly democrats?

Yes, up until today too

953 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:17:18pm

re: #946 Desert Dog

George W Bush wiki. Not a total slam down....actually, fairly balanced.....why can't we have one like that with Obama, eh Wiki?

Sign in and edit...

954 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:19:58pm

re: #936 Slumbering Behemoth Geebus.
"Note: Do not attempt unless you are a total badass and crazy as hell."
there FTFY!
Wonder where his dogs were and why they didn't join in the fight - he doesn't look like the type of guy I'd expect to have a Pomeranian or a Pekineses, ya know?

955 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:20:05pm

Ha, just checked on the Obama article at Wiki. No mention of Ayers now.

956 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:20:31pm

re: #953 SanFranciscoZionist

Sign in and edit...

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Obama Wiki

957 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:20:47pm

re: #955 Gus 802

Ha, just checked on the Obama article at Wiki. No mention of Ayers now.

Or Wright, or Resko, one footnote on Alinsky, no Frank Marshall Davis.

958 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:22:07pm

re: #952 Desert Dog

Yes, up until today too

Really, today? Civil Rights Act, and the South peeling off had no effect?

959 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:22:43pm

re: #957 jcm

Or Wright, or Resko, one footnote on Alinsky, no Frank Marshall Davis.

Yeah, Wiki will protect "their own." Not that I'm endorsing the nirther activity. However, sure looks like it been through some cleansing.

960 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:22:49pm

re: #956 Desert Dog

"Please discuss any changes on the talk page; you may use the {editprotected} template to ask an administrator to make the edit if it is supported by consensus."

Does this mean that facts are facts by virtue of a consensus?

961 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:23:14pm

re: #956 Desert Dog

Obama Wiki

Lord. And this is the website that one of my ninth-graders once edited to say that an octopus has seven legs.

962 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:23:25pm

re: #907 mikalm

Here's a NSFWparody/cover/tribute version of that song by the infamous GG Allin, who was apparently a sincere fan of Hanks Sr. and Jr., and in turn was an influence on Hank III.

That version of Family tradition failed to charm me after listening for a few seconds, but I am handicapped by witnessing Hank Williams Jr. perform it live at the Circle Star in San Carlos, Ca in 1982. And most importantly, Hank Williams was a drugged out zombie who never did a thing in his drugged out unmusical worthless life.

963 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:23:35pm

If you haven't see this one, it's priceless.

Jason Mattera of Hot Air asks Charlie Rangel a pointed question.... about his shady rental property deals, publicly-subsidized Cadillac, and unpaid taxes:

“Why don’t you mind your goddamned business?”

964 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:23:51pm

re: #951 Afrocity

Someone on here has mentioned it before, I found this on Wiki about the KKK

Were the KKK members mostly democrats?

The Democrat Party was the most popular political party in the Southern USA from before the Civil War until Ronald Reagan took office. Many "conservative" Democrats jumped ship to the Republicans or just voted for him.

The KKK was not limited to the south when it has a resurgence in the early 1900's. But, most of the members were still Democrats....

Of course, the Democrats of today are not much like the Democrats of yesteryear....

965 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:23:57pm

re: #954 realwest

He didn't have much of a choice, I think. That dude should get free beer for life.

966 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:24:13pm

re: #941 jcm
I don't understand that at all jcm. Someone tried to "fill out" Obama's wiki entry with documented facts (indeed, iirc in his first book, Obama himself said that Wright was his spiritual guide) and then that material was pulled and whomever posted it banned from Wiki?
WTF? Does this kind of shit go on at Wiki all the time - I mean, do you know how Wiki operates and/or who owns it?

967 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:24:23pm

re: #954 realwest

Geebus.
"Note: Do not attempt unless you are a total badass and crazy as hell."
there FTFY!
Wonder where his dogs were and why they didn't join in the fight - he doesn't look like the type of guy I'd expect to have a Pomeranian or a Pekineses, ya know?

Pomeranian or a Pekineses?...Snort...:)

968 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:25:57pm

re: #963 jcm

If you haven't see this one, it's priceless.

Jason Mattera of Hot Air asks Charlie Rangel a pointed question.... about his shady rental property deals, publicly-subsidized Cadillac, and unpaid taxes:

“Why don’t you mind your goddamned business?”

Rangel another ass hat, who needs to be put out to pasture...IN A FEDERAL PEN!

969 tackle  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:26:04pm

re: #963 jcm

If you haven't see this one, it's priceless.

Jason Mattera of Hot Air asks Charlie Rangel a pointed question.... about his shady rental property deals, publicly-subsidized Cadillac, and unpaid taxes:

“Why don’t you mind your goddamned business?”

Yes, and he's all smiles while saying it. Weird.

970 UncleSam  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:26:49pm

re: #496 SanFranciscoZionist

I sometimes really enjoy SNL skits, and sometimes they're just a. gross, b. racist, or c. completely miss the mark.

Is it them or Mad TV that does the Depressed Persian Tow Truck Man? Those qualify as all of the above.

I love the Depressed Persian Tow Truck Man.
Totally offensive and un-PC and hilarious.

971 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:26:53pm

re: #964 Desert Dog

The Democrat Party was the most popular political party in the Southern USA from before the Civil War until Ronald Reagan took office. Many "conservative" Democrats jumped ship to the Republicans or just voted for him.

The KKK was not limited to the south when it has a resurgence in the early 1900's. But, most of the members were still Democrats....

Of course, the Democrats of today are not much like the Democrats of yesteryear....

Thanks all I need to know to settle an argument I am having with a friend online.

972 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:27:16pm

re: #966 realwest

I don't understand that at all jcm. Someone tried to "fill out" Obama's wiki entry with documented facts (indeed, iirc in his first book, Obama himself said that Wright was his spiritual guide) and then that material was pulled and whomever posted it banned from Wiki?
WTF? Does this kind of shit go on at Wiki all the time - I mean, do you know how Wiki operates and/or who owns it?

Wiki is open to anyone with an account to edit. Info on Wikepedia. Since lefties seem to have more time on their hands for that type of stuff, wikepedia isn't much use except for quick basic facts.

973 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:28:36pm

re: #944 Gus 802 Don't actually know how he can do that, since he doesn't have a clearly enunciated plan! Indeed 3 wood - who is a very good friend of mine and holds advanced degress in and teaches economics said today that the word on the street (which has always been reliable before) was that Obama told Timothy Geithner that he's had long enough and if Tim doesn't come up with an complete economic plan in one week, he's gonna lose his position as Secretary of the Treasury.
So what fuckin plan could Obama be mobilizing his people to support? His budget? I mean, get real even BIG numbers of Dems have major problems with it as do ALL (for a change) Republicans.

974 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:28:41pm

re: #972 jcm

Wiki is open to anyone with an account to edit. Info on Wikepedia. Since lefties seem to have more time on their hands for that type of stuff, wikepedia isn't much use except for quick basic facts.

Not much for them to do after the "dole check" is spent


/S

975 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:28:42pm

re: #951 Afrocity

Were the KKK members mostly democrats?

As I understand it, and I certainly don't have all the details, they were bitter over their defeat in the Civil War and resented the Republicans for it for a long time.

I am not sure how accurate this bit is, but I seem to recall hearing/reading that the southern states voted strictly Dem. up until the last couple of decades because of this resentment. I could look up the specifics, but I'm feeling lazy.

976 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:29:23pm

re: #972 jcm

Wiki is open to anyone with an account to edit. Info on Wikepedia. Since lefties seem to have more time on their hands for that type of stuff, wikepedia isn't much use except for quick basic facts.

I think Wiki is a cool tool....but, you have to verify whatever you find on that site when it comes to things political....

That said, I think it is what the internet should be...information sharing...

977 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:30:00pm

re: #971 Afrocity

Thanks all I need to know to settle an argument I am having with a friend online.

Sen. Robert Byrd (D) W. Va. has KKK ties. He's a member in good standing of the (D) party. Trent Lott said a nice thing about Strom Thurmond at his birthday and was hounded for his "racism."

Go figure.

978 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:31:14pm

re: #976 Desert Dog

I think Wiki is a cool tool....but, you have to verify whatever you find on that site when it comes to things political....

That said, I think it is what the internet should be...information sharing...

I use it for quick basic stuff, it's links can be usefull, but for analysis it's not the best, to many slants.

979 Optimizer  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:31:53pm

re: #886 Killian Bundy

Iran: Hostile drones disrupted our satellite launch


/peek a boo, they see you

Actually, it kinda sounds like the Iranians made up some BS to blame on Israel, to me.

980 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:32:12pm

re: #977 jcm

Sen. Robert Byrd (D) W. Va. has KKK ties. He's a member in good standing of the (D) party. Trent Lott said a nice thing about Strom Thurmond at his birthday and was hounded for his "racism."

Go figure.

He was forced to resign his position as Majority Leader of the Senate....that is amazing. That would be like making Harry Reid resign if he said something stupid

....hey, wait a minute....

981 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:32:31pm

re: #971 Afrocity

Thanks all I need to know to settle an argument I am having with a friend online.

[Link: www.tysknews.com...]


[Link: openletter260.blogspot.com...]


[Link: elephantsinthebluegrass.blogspot.com...]

982 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:34:15pm

re: #973 realwest

Either way Obama loses with or without Geithner. At this point no one has any confidence with Geithner so he has no choice but to let him go. He'll probably do a back room deal to make it look like he resigned (SOP).

By the way, these are the people that run Wikil:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I've never had any real objection to them except in this case.

983 thefarmer  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:34:15pm

Look forward, tomorrow can be a better day...

HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK
1. Open a new file in your computer.
2. Name it 'Barack Obama'.
3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
5. Your PC will ask you: 'Do you really want to get rid of 'Barack Obama?'
6. Firmly Click 'Yes.'
7. Feel better?
GOOD! - Tomorrow we'll do Nancy Pelosi!

984 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:35:22pm

re: #983 thefarmer

Look forward, tomorrow can be a better day...

HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK
1. Open a new file in your computer.
2. Name it 'Barack Obama'.
3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
5. Your PC will ask you: 'Do you really want to get rid of 'Barack Obama?'
6. Firmly Click 'Yes.'
7. Feel better?
GOOD! - Tomorrow we'll do Nancy Pelosi!

I've been doing that to John Kerry since 2004...:)

985 Desert Dog  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:35:29pm

re: #983 thefarmer

Look forward, tomorrow can be a better day...

HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK
1. Open a new file in your computer.
2. Name it 'Barack Obama'.
3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
5. Your PC will ask you: 'Do you really want to get rid of 'Barack Obama?'
6. Firmly Click 'Yes.'
7. Feel better?
GOOD! - Tomorrow we'll do Nancy Pelosi!

I just did it and I do feel better....thanks....good night all

986 pink freud  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:36:12pm

re: #983 thefarmer

Life's little victories. :-)

987 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:37:15pm

re: #948 jcm
I wish I could give you a hundred updings for that one jcm. The Seatle PI is going the way evolution would dictate: down and out. It's on-line version won't work either; Charles was on Pajamas Media TV last week and was expounding on the financial problems of the MSM - though he didn't call it that. He said (and is correct) that the totally left columnists and editorials of most of the MSM newspapers were THE major reason circulation is down and so is revenue. If they go on-line, where the hell are they gonna make any money if they don't change their patently Leftist biases? (I'm really paraphrasing Charles here and believe I have at least the gist of his interview correct.
As for that prick Joel Connelly, he should be prosecuted by FEDERAL PROSECUTORS for knowingly and openly flouting the election laws of the United States and probably those of Washington State.
Great comment there jcm.

988 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:37:35pm

re: #970 UncleSam

I love the Depressed Persian Tow Truck Man.
Totally offensive and un-PC and hilarious.

I guess I don't get the hilarious. He doesn't seem very Persian to me. I love the name, but can't get much past that.

989 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:37:58pm

re: #971 Afrocity

The kkk was started as a primarily southern terrorist organization after the civil war and if you look at the electoral map of the 1880 election (or any election up until Reagan) you'll see which way the south was leaning.

990 quickredfox  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:38:20pm

re: #869 realwest

Not only does marrying first cousins create sadness, it also creates a family tree with no brances!

Or, not enough ancestors.

991 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:38:54pm

re: #951 Afrocity
White Power in the South, starting before, during and for 100 years after the Civil War was 99% Democratic.

992 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:39:18pm

re: #989 Neo Con since 9-11

Not to denigrate the south of today of which I am very fond.

993 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:40:47pm

re: #989 Neo Con since 9-11

The kkk was started as a primarily southern terrorist organization after the civil war and if you look at the electoral map of the 1880 election (or any election up until Reagan) you'll see which way the south was leaning.

I did not know. This is something that LGF has opened my eyes to. I learned maybe two years ago that MLK was a Republican. My friend told me I was a liar about all of these things.

994 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:41:46pm

re: #958 SanFranciscoZionist Yep when you talk about the KKK they are like bloodlines there. Some of 'em (e.g. David Duke) try to call themselves Republicans but they aren't; I truly believe that the KKK is still Democrats, despite the South's coming around to Republicanism over the last25-30 years.

995 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:41:57pm

re: #975 Slumbering Behemoth

As I understand it, and I certainly don't have all the details, they were bitter over their defeat in the Civil War and resented the Republicans for it for a long time.

I am not sure how accurate this bit is, but I seem to recall hearing/reading that the southern states voted strictly Dem. up until the last couple of decades because of this resentment. I could look up the specifics, but I'm feeling lazy.

The legend I once heard is that Condi Rice's father returned from the war, and tried to register Democrat. They wouldn't let him. So he became a Republican--and so the whole family went.

Don't know if it's true, but it does reflect the atmosphere of the times.

Of course, the Klan was all over. There was a very active branch in Fresno when my grandfather was a child.

996 rawmuse  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:42:58pm

re: #993 Afrocity

Lionel Hampton was a life long Republican. I worked for him a couple times.

997 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:43:43pm

re: #993 Afrocity

I did not know. This is something that LGF has opened my eyes to. I learned maybe two years ago that MLK was a Republican. My friend told me I was a liar about all of these things.

LBJ's civil rights bill was passed with Republican help in spite of Democrat opposition.

998 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:43:44pm

re: #960 pink freud
"Does this mean that facts are facts by virtue of a consensus?" Yes, sadly, that's what it means.
Hey, maybe we should all put each other in as billionaires - then that would be fact and we might be able to get unsecured loans!
/
Wiki's standards for FACTUAL matters suck.

999 quickredfox  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:44:16pm

re: #987 realwest

Charles was on Pajamas Media TV last week and was expounding on the financial problems of the MSM - though he didn't call it that. He said (and is correct) that the totally left columnists and editorials of most of the MSM newspapers were THE major reason circulation is down and so is revenue.

Exhibit: Me. We subscribed to the SF Chronicle for years -- probably going on 30 years. The last straw was when they so proudly began including Mark Morford (he of "lightworker" fame) as a regular columnist in the dead tree edition (he had been in the online version for awhile before that, apparently, but I hadn't heard of him. That wasn't the only reason why I finally said, "enough," but it was indeed the last straw. Now I won't even pick one up if I find it lying on the seat on the BART train.

1000 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:44:19pm

re: #997 jcm

LBJ's civil rights bill was passed with Republican help in spite of Democrat opposition.

It was a bipartisan vote right?

1001 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:44:24pm

re: #994 realwest

Yep when you talk about the KKK they are like bloodlines there. Some of 'em (e.g. David Duke) try to call themselves Republicans but they aren't; I truly believe that the KKK is still Democrats, despite the South's coming around to Republicanism over the last25-30 years.

Well, God, we don't want them...can they be tricked into joining the Greens or something?

1002 Cognito  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:44:33pm

Ward Churchill. A real winner.

Weirdly, I actually find something closer to 'admirable' in this lone, ball-capped guy on the courthouse steps than in the typical fray of bandwagon-joining protesters. The lonely soul in the photo (who is, I'll note, wrong, wrong, wrong) at least has the guts to stand up by himself.

Too bad it's on behalf of a malodorous chunk of flesh like Ward Churchill.

1003 rawmuse  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:44:38pm

re: #997 jcm

LBJ's civil rights bill was passed with Republican help in spite of Democrat opposition.

In the form of Senator Gore, Sr.

1004 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:45:30pm

re: #1003 rawmuse

In the form of Senator Gore, Sr.

Yep.

1005 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:46:01pm

re: #1002 Cognito

Ward Churchill. A real winner.

Weirdly, I actually find something closer to 'admirable' in this lone, ball-capped guy on the courthouse steps than in the typical fray of bandwagon-joining protesters. The lonely soul in the photo (who is, I'll note, wrong, wrong, wrong) at least has the guts to stand up by himself.

Too bad it's on behalf of a malodorous chunk of flesh like Ward Churchill.

There is something slightly valiant about him. Not bright, but brave.

1006 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:46:19pm

re: #993 Afrocity

I did not know. This is something that LGF has opened my eyes to. I learned maybe two years ago that MLK was a Republican. My friend told me I was a liar about all of these things.

Bill Clinton's political mentor was J. William Fulbright an anti-semite and racist.

1007 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:46:26pm

re: #964 Desert Dog
"Of course, the Democrats of today are not much like the DemocratsKKK of yesteryear to the extent they use fear and intimidation and voter fraud to gain or retain power."
There, FTFY!

1008 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:47:39pm

re: #965 Slumbering BehemothOh I agree completely, but still wonder what happened to his dogs?

1009 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:48:31pm

Goodnight lizards! Sleep well

1010 jcm  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:49:19pm

Once again you Honcos have kept me up later than I intended.

Night all.

Society is well governed when its people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law.
Solon

1011 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:49:36pm

re: #906 Jimmah

She's nutso. I've decided that the spelling mistakes in the post titles are her way of adding emphasis to already fully capitalised headlines. "BIRTH CERTIFICATE!" merely shouts, as does everything else on her site, but "NIRTH CERTIFIKIT!" clearly conveys that this is a mad person doing the shouting.

She had a new one today- Irkranians.

1012 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:49:39pm

re: #995 SanFranciscoZionist

I've been told that Fresno was like the California KKK capitol back in the day. Not so any more.

1013 Gus  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:51:37pm

Southern Manifesto

The Southern Manifesto was a document written in February-March 1956 by legislators in the United States Congress opposed to racial integration in public places. The manifesto was signed by 101 politicians (99 Democrats and 2 Republicans) from Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia. The document was largely drawn up to counter the landmark Supreme Court 1954 ruling Brown v. Board of Education, which integrated public schools.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Gore Sr. didn't sign on to this. Gore Sr. voted against the Civil Rights Act but voted for the Voting Rights Act.

1014 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:53:29pm

re: #1012 Slumbering Behemoth

I've been told that Fresno was like the California KKK capitol back in the day. Not so any more.

My great-grandfather, legend has it, attended a meeting of theirs, expecting a casual gathering of other bigots that he could schmooze with. Apparently they scared hell out of him, and he excused himself early to go take care of a fictional sick cow.

1015 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:55:11pm

re: #962 BatGuano

That version of Family tradition failed to charm me after listening for a few seconds, but I am handicapped by witnessing Hank Williams Jr. perform it live at the Circle Star in San Carlos, Ca in 1982. And most importantly, Hank Williams was a drugged out zombie who never did a thing in his drugged out unmusical worthless life.

Wow. Times have changed. I posted some mean, untrue things about Hank Williams and nobody came to his defense. Either it wasn't read or it was rad and believed to be true or no one gives a rat's ass about a real American musical genius.

1016 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:55:16pm

re: #1008 realwest

Oh I agree completely, but still wonder what happened to his dogs?

They learned that when "daddy" says roll-over, they better spin like a top on meth, and do it PDQ.

1017 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:56:36pm

re: #981 Dustyvet
Wow, you really nailed that one dead center!
Y'all ought to send those links to Charles and suggest that - in light of all the attention apparently now paid to the "discombobulated and disorganized right" some attention ought to be made to the Dems and the KKK.
Yes I'm serious as hell about that. You know and can say to Charles that Charles hates Fascists and terrorists and that the KKK is both!
Just a GREAT comment and Links!

1018 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:59:01pm

re: #1015 BatGuano

Wow. Times have changed. I posted some mean, untrue things about Hank Williams and nobody came to his defense. Either it wasn't read or it was rad and believed to be true or no one gives a rat's ass about a real American musical genius.

I was sitting back with my Thin mints, waiting someone to bring out the clue-by-four...

;-P

1019 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 10:59:17pm

OT, but interesting--Puzzled in Gaza

1020 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:00:19pm

re: #993 Afrocity
You really should read the links provided by DustyVet at his #981.

1021 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:00:54pm

re: #1005 SanFranciscoZionist

There is something slightly valiant about him. Not bright, but brave.

I don't see valiance- I see fundamentalist devotion to marxism emanating from a useful idiot.

1022 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:01:09pm

re: #1017 realwest

Wow, you really nailed that one dead center!
Y'all ought to send those links to Charles and suggest that - in light of all the attention apparently now paid to the "discombobulated and disorganized right" some attention ought to be made to the Dems and the KKK.
Yes I'm serious as hell about that. You know and can say to Charles that Charles hates Fascists and terrorists and that the KKK is both!
Just a GREAT comment and Links!

I just hope that he's aware that was ment to assist another Lizard...:(

1023 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:01:44pm

Well y'all I gotta get some sleep NOW! I do hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night, all.

1024 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:02:08pm

re: #1021 Sharmuta

I don't see valiance- I see fundamentalist devotion to marxism emanating from a useful idiot.

They're sort of like shoes--you really need at least two for them to be useful.

1025 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:02:34pm

re: #1023 realwest

Well y'all I gotta get some sleep NOW! I do hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night, all.

Nighters real..sleep well:)

1026 realwest  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:03:17pm

re: #1022 Dustyvet
Ooops = well hell Dusty, since your the one e-mailing it to Charles, make it clear that you have these incredible links which you gave to another LGFer at her request!

Now, good night, all.

1027 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:03:32pm

One of my e-mail lists has a nirther.

Sigh.

1028 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:05:02pm

re: #1014 SanFranciscoZionist

I heard a similar story from a random guy. It was the during '70s, the guy's life was all forked up, and he was looking for an outlet for all his rage. He made the trip to Fresno, but had something of an epiphany when he got there. He realized that these people were not just crazy, but evil, and that he wasn't really the bigot he thought he was.

Fresno is not that kind of place now, though. Membership for that crap has thankfully waned quite a lot.

1029 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:07:19pm

re: #1024 SanFranciscoZionist

They're sort of like shoes--you really need at least two for them to be useful.

One is good enough to toss at someone during press conferences.....

1030 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:07:42pm

re: #1028 Slumbering Behemoth

I heard a similar story from a random guy. It was the during '70s, the guy's life was all forked up, and he was looking for an outlet for all his rage. He made the trip to Fresno, but had something of an epiphany when he got there. He realized that these people were not just crazy, but evil, and that he wasn't really the bigot he thought he was.

Fresno is not that kind of place now, though. Membership for that crap has thankfully waned quite a lot.

Times changed, thank God.

1031 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:08:15pm

Guantanamo detainees say they planned September 11: report


[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

1032 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:08:51pm

re: #1029 Sharmuta

One is good enough to toss at someone during press conferences.....

;)

1033 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:09:47pm

re: #1030 SanFranciscoZionist

High five on that, Lizard.

1034 SixDegrees  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:16:55pm

re: #922 realwest

That was a terrific article by Mr. Steyn. All of it.
But I have to disagree with his conclusion (which you quoted): I don't think Obama wants America to fall below a certain level economically speaking, and is sufficiently narcissistic to believe he can magically stop the collapse when he chooses to.
In other words, I think President Obama is a fucking moron.

I agree. Obama has had that deer-in-the-headlights look ever since his economic non-plan began producing non-results. He's having extreme difficulty understanding that the world isn't giving him what he wants, and that the current situation has been exacerbated by his own incompetence.

The last couple of days, he's seemed to be thrashing around trying to change the topic. Let's talk about stem cell research. Or China. Or the Taliban. Something, anything but the economy, which is unflinchingly making him look like a failure.

1035 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:17:01pm

re: #1018 talon_262

I was sitting back with my Thin mints, waiting someone to bring out the clue-by-four...

;-P

I have heard so much crap over the years about Hank Williams. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just wish that those who have opinions knew what the hell they were talking about. Even Lionel Hampton is getting props.

1036 Tigger2005  Mon, Mar 9, 2009 11:22:53pm

My dad received the article in the link below by e-mail and forwarded it to me and a bunch of other people on his e-mail list:

[Link: republicbroadcasting.org...]

It just made me sigh with frustration. Angry, raging, over the top spiels like this are NOT what conservatives need. In this article, the author refers to Obama as a "foreign national" (showing he believes the nerf certifikit nonsense), calls Lincoln a "criminal," strongly implies that America is a Christian nation and needs to be "reconstituted" as such, says Bush 2 was an "ignorant and failed" President, and takes the obligatory digs at gays, among other things calling Hillary Clinton a "lesbian witch" or something like that.

Some of what he says I agree with, but most of it is just going to make moderates think, "Another crazy, foaming-at-the-mouth, mad-dog, homophobic conservative." Where oh where are the calm rational voices of the conservatives of yesteryear, the Goldwaters, the Buckleys, the Reagans? I keep reading Reagan's 1964 "A Time for Choosing" speech and his 1975 "Let Them Go Their Own Way" speech to CPAC. Unmatched classics. No angry ranting, just calm, rational, and fact-centered, yet firm, forceful and passionate defenses of conservative philosophy.

1037 Pupdawg  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:39:04am

re: #28 anotherindyfilmguy

Sometimes I wonder if guys like Ward and Ayers ever wake up with an epiphany and realize how lucky they are to live in the US where their actions have been rewarded/ignored by the largess of the Nation... whereas in other countries they'd have lined up against a wall ages ago for their treason etc...But then real sociopaths don't do that (I guess) because it would require real human feelings that they utterly lack...

Excellent!

..."The irony of a man calling for the total destruction of the nation, appealing to it’s powerful courts to protect him from his academic peers is not lost on the average citizen."

Irony. Not lost of average citizen.
Makes me wonder how many average citizens voted for Obama and of that number who would be pulling for Churchill...like the nowhere-near-average intellectuals of the ACLU.
Apparently, according to the MSM only conservatives / Republicans led by Limbaugh (hah) are just average or below in the new USS of NA.

1038 aggieann  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 6:45:16am

re: #1 MandyManners

More like a thong.

More like a thing.

1039 Amer-I-Can  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 7:17:13am

All I can say is that I hope this trial is long and pricey. When this POS loses, I want him to be on the hook for a bunch of legal fees that he can't possibly cover.

Then, let the ACLU ride in to the rescue to cover his debt... maybe we can bankrupt that bunch of clowns too...

OK, enough dreaming... we all know that there are enough of the "Hate America" crowd out there that this asshat will never have to pay a dime.

How Sad :-(

1040 Colonel Panik  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:07:58am

re: #82 Ringo the Gringo

That's the symbol (logo) of the 1980's British anarchist punk collective known a Crass.

Believe it or not, I used to be a fan.

Yes I recognized it as well. I always thought that symbol looks vaguely "white nationalist". Brit leftists borrowing iconography from the neo-nazi crowd?

1041 mikalm  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 8:18:57am

re: #1015 BatGuano

Well, I didn't check back on this thread until this morning. I certainly would've given you grief for such an outrageous statement, but I was in bed when you made it.

1042 gregb  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 10:15:31am

Read the whole article. Excellent example of believing your own BS.

1043 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 10, 2009 4:19:15pm
1044 tanna  Fri, Mar 13, 2009 12:34:55am

re: #27 livefreeor die
Which is very difficult if one is paunchy and overbeered.


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