have a great day all!

73? He won't make it 5 years.

Sounds like a death sentence to me, or as good as one.

He wants to concur with Chas Freeman's opinion blaming the JOOOS.

Ali Hassan al-Majeed

This is Chemical Ali, folks. I hope this is the first of many sentences for this monster.

Will the State Dept. remember to comment on his sentence?

Not ideal at all, a noose would have been the best option, but, it does seem to be a death sentence, unless he is quietly released, which is a distinct possibility. Hopefully, the bastard dies in prison.

re: #5 Bloodnok

Ali Hassan al-Majeed

This is Chemical Ali, folks. I hope this is the first of many sentences for this monster.

He won't last in prison, either.

Am I out-of-line for wishing him nothing but a pigskin cot to sleep on?

re: #9 Chicago Blonde

Am I out-of-line for wishing him nothing but a pigskin cot to sleep on?

No pig deserves to be sacrificed for any of this refuse.

re: #9 Chicago Blonde

Am I out-of-line for wishing him nothing but a pigskin cot to sleep on?

Yeah - he was Saddam's Court Christian, iirc.
Pigskin won't hold no fear for him ...
Bed of nails, perhaps?

[Link: www.darkharbor.com...]

re: #6 cronus

Will the State Dept. remember to comment on his sentence?

I'm sure they'll send a nice gift.

for his part in the kangaroo court trial and execution

First the wombats, now the kangaroos. Charles, why do you hate Australians?

re: #13 Lively

I'm sure they'll send a nice gift.

Possibly a nice boxed DVD set?

the killing of 42 merchants in Baghdad in 1992 for profiteering

Good thing here in America we don't have powerful political figures inveighing against "profiteering", isn't it!

/gah

"Turning himself into US authorities."

In to, not into.

re: #6 cronus

Will the State Dept. remember to comment on his sentence?

They'll probably screw up and send him a toy helicopter.

Better yet, sentence him to have to live in America under the One (hopefully only 4 years)...now, that's punishment!

re: #9 Chicago Blonde

Yes you are because Tariq Aziz is Christian.

Deck of 55
Tariq Aziz - Eight of Spades bye...

Only 15 years? He should've gotten more.

re: #17 Cato the Elder

"Turning himself into US authorities."

In to, not into.

Yeah, my head went *pop* when I read that.

re: #8 acwgusa

He won't last in prison, either.

True, but when the blood of thousands may be on his hands he should have to face justice for it while he is alive.

re: #10 CapeCoddah

re: #11 yma o hyd

True, no piggie deserves to be sacrificed, but he's not worth a nail either.

re: #13 Lively

I'm sure they'll send a nice gift.

Maybe they'll get him a nice Snuggie...

/S

re: #22 Honorary Yooper

Only 15 years? He should've gotten more.

Yes but, at his age, he's gonna' die in prison.

Won't last long in prison.

OT
On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: "I certainly hope he doesn't succeed."

repost from previous thread.

Good riddance

re: #26 Dustyvet

Maybe they'll get him a nice Snuggie...

/S

How about having Billy Mays' commercials blasting at him 24/7?

re: #14 Occasional Reader

First the wombats, now the kangaroos. Charles, why do you hate Australians wildlife?

FTFY

That's only a little over 4 months per murder.

re: #26 Dustyvet

Maybe they'll get him a nice Snuggie...

How about a ShamWOW?
/

re: #27 MandyManners

Yes but, at his age, he's gonna' die in prison.

It's the principle, not the age.

re: #7 CapeCoddah

Not ideal at all, a noose would have been the best option, but, it does seem to be a death sentence, unless he is quietly released, which is a distinct possibility. Hopefully, the bastard dies in prison.

There are multiple trials and cases pending against the Saddam henchmen, including Chemical Ali and Aziz. The Iraqi courts are proceeding to go through them in an orderly fashion. Eventually one of those cases may result in a death sentence.

The Iraqis are providing more justice and rule of law than ever seen under Saddam's rule. For this, I applaud the ruling.

re: #25 Chicago Blonde

re: #11 yma o hyd

True, no piggie deserves to be sacrificed, but he's not worth a nail either.

I don't want him to pollute the good earth either - cold stone, which can be washed clean, that should be ok!

Well this sure puts a crimp in his plans for the whirlwind speaking tour at American universities.

/

re: #30 MandyManners

How about having Billy Mays' commercials blasting at him 24/7?

*Snicker*

re: #20 screwtapesayshi

I thought his religion was the Baath party, i.e., worshipping Saddam.

re: #37 yma o hyd

I don't want him to pollute the good earth either - cold stone, which can be washed bleached clean, that should be ok!

Gotta be sure... ;)

re: #25 Chicago Blonde

re: #11 yma o hyd

True, no piggie deserves to be sacrificed, but he's not worth a nail either.

Nope, but I would spring for a length of good, stout rope.

re: #41 Chicago Blonde

Gotta be sure... ;)

Right you are!

:-)

re: #35 Honorary Yooper

It's the principle, not the age.

I agree. That's a little more than 4.25 months per victim.

re: #5 Bloodnok

Ali Hassan al-Majeed

This is Chemical Ali, folks. I hope this is the first of many sentences for this monster.

I'm not sure but I think this is just the first of many trials in this joker's future. Why hang him on the first one when you can string out the pleasure of watching him dance to save his neck three or four more times before you tell him he is getting stretched?

Short term, he won't last very long in an Iraqi prison anyway... too many people know who he is and what he did.

re: #36 lawhawk

There are multiple trials and cases pending against the Saddam henchmen, including Chemical Ali and Aziz. The Iraqi courts are proceeding to go through them in an orderly fashion. Eventually one of those cases may result in a death sentence.

The Iraqis are providing more justice and rule of law than ever seen under Saddam's rule. For this, I applaud the ruling.

Agreed. And they DID execute Saddam. That cannot be understated.

re: #38 bulwrk

Well this sure puts a crimp in his plans for the whirlwind speaking tour at American universities.

/

And in the same vein, for the Columbia U. "search committee", it's back to the drawing board.

re: #42 CapeCoddah

Nope, but I would spring for a length of good, stout rope.

Image: noose9.jpg

re: #39 Dustyvet

*Snicker*

Don't forget Vince and shamwow/ slap chop! You have to have a little variety!

Per Wiki:

During the late stages of the Iran–Iraq War Ali Hassan was given the post of Secretary General of the Northern Bureau of the Ba'ath Party, in which capacity he served from March 1987 to April 1989. This effectively made him Saddam's proconsul in the north of the country, commanding all state agencies in the rebellious Kurdish-populated region of the country. He soon displayed his characteristic ruthlessness, ordering the indiscriminate use of chemical weapons such as mustard gas, sarin, tabun and VX against Kurdish targets. The first such attacks occurred as early as April 1987 and continued into 1988, culminating in the notorious attack on Halabja in which over 5,000 people were killed.

Mustard gas? Sarin? VX?
Whatever faith IT claims, IT has no soul.

Isn't Chemical Ali due to check out? I think he's had like 3 appeals (do the new Iraqi courts have to be JUST LIKE America's...jeez!)

re: #23 MandyManners

Yeah, my head went *pop* when I read that.

What do you expect from the media, eh? Correct usage? PUH-LEEZE! ;)

While 15 years is exceedingly lenient for this bastard, at least he got something for his crimes as he had been earlier acquitted on other charges.

re: #45 Amer-I-Can

I'm not sure but I think this is just the first of many trials in this joker's future. Why hang him on the first one when you can string out the pleasure of watching him dance to save his neck three or four more times before you tell him he is getting stretched?

Short term, he won't last very long in an Iraqi prison anyway... too many people know who he is and what he did.

I would love to see Chemical Ali shipped off to the Kurds for punishment.

OT: Peek into a moonbat mind:

"Missouri Republicans believe in fairies, unicorns"

"Once upon a time, in a land far, far away, there was a little pro-choice fairy named Freedom of Choice Act. Now FOCA wasn't your average magical fairy; she was so magical she was invisible! Every day, FOCA the invisible, magical fairy would fly across the land and tell sad, oppressed little girls they were worthy, wonderful creatures, with the ability to make their own choices in life. FOCA was loved throughout the land, even though none of the little girls she helped could see her.

But evil forces lurked in the center of the land. In an old stone building high on a hill, a group of old, pale men called the Missouri Republicans would plot ways to destroy the people who were not like them, especially the little girls FOCA loved so much. Of course, the Missouri Republicans had never seen the invisible FOCA, but they were scared the little girls she helped would actually start believing they were worthy, wonderful creatures with the ability to make their own choices. Choice was like kryptonite to the Missouri Republicans."

re: #49 CapeCoddah

Don't forget Vince and shamwow/ slap chop! You have to have a little variety!

How about a "Ronco Pocket Fishermen"?

Work with it...:)

/S

Crime still pays in Iraq.

When PBO pulls the plug on Iraq Tariq Aziz will get a "Get Of Jail Free" card. Hell, he has a chance to grow up and become President.

re: #9 Chicago Blonde

actually you are ... sort of. aziz was the lone Christian in saddam's inner circle

re: #30 MandyManners

How about having Billy Mays' commercials blasting at him 24/7?

That would defintiely be a violation of the Geneva Conventions. The only thing worse would be making him listen to the ShamWow guy...

re: #39 Dustyvet

*Snicker*

ACT NOW!

re: #54 pink freud

I'll send you the bill to clean the bile off my keyboard. :)

Seriously, good to see how those loons think.

Neo-Marxist hearts are bleeding.

re: #61 Chicago Blonde

I'll send you the bill to clean the bile off my keyboard. :)

Seriously, good to see how those loons think.

"Hang down your head T..."

Nah too folksy...

/S

re: #58 _RememberTonyC

actually you are ... sort of. aziz was the lone Christian in saddam's inner circle

Sorry - I didn't know that.

I have a feeling that he only got 15 years because he was very cooperative with his captors.
Still shoulda hung him though.

re: #55 Dustyvet

How about a "Ronco Pocket Fishermen"?

Work with it...:)

/S

The 24 hour home shopping network, interrupted at 15 second intervals with Vince, Billy, Ronco and MTV.

re: #58 _RememberTonyC

actually you are ... sort of. aziz was the lone Christian in saddam's inner circle

oops ... my bad ... redundant

re: #61 Chicago Blonde

I'll send you the bill to clean the bile off my keyboard. :)

Seriously, good to see how those loons think.

They're sooo *progressive*.

U.N. to scrutinize Obama on counter-terrorism

U.N. human rights investigators on Tuesday announced a global investigation into secret detention and said they would not relax scrutiny of U.S. counter-terrorism policies under President Barack Obama.

"We will not let the United States off the hook simply because of the change in administration," said Martin Scheinin, U.N. special rapporteur on protecting human rights while countering terrorism.

"It is certainly too early to say that rendition will have stopped," he told reporters.

Oh, the irony!

re: #30 MandyManners

How about having Billy Mays' commercials blasting at him 24/7?

Or an endless loop of the slash chopper guy telling him he's going to love his nuts.

re: #66 CapeCoddah

The 24 hour home shopping network, interrupted at 15 second intervals with Vince, Billy, Ronco and MTV.

Of all of those, Ronco's the most tolerable. At least they have a catchy tagline: Set it and forget it!

re: #66 CapeCoddah

The 24 hour home shopping network, interrupted at 15 second intervals with Vince, Billy, Ronco and MTV.

Obama's droning, oddly-cadenced voice.

re: #59 LGoPs

That would defintiely be a violation of the Geneva Conventions. The only thing worse would be making him listen to the ShamWow guy...

See, if we really wanted our pound of flesh, we'd make him watch Battlefield Earth...

re: #69 Kenneth
Yeah, LOL, that's the reaction I had when I posted that in the spinoff links last night/this morning!
Sure wonder how the One will respond to this - him wanting the world to love us and all!

re: #72 debutaunt

Obama's droning, oddly-cadenced voice.

Nah, they like him, Make it President Bush. That will drive them batty.

re: #74 realwest

Yeah, LOL, that's the reaction I had when I posted that in the spinoff links last night/this morning!
Sure wonder how the One will respond to this - him wanting the world to love us and all!

Uhhh, blame Bush?

re: #73 Chicago Blonde

See, if we really wanted our pound of flesh, we'd make him watch Battlefield Earth...

That goes beyond the pale. You truly are sadistic...
:)

"My father died dancing...on the end of a rope"

Curly Howard

Can we send Bernie Madoff to an Iraqi prison?

re: #79 MJ

Can we send Bernie Madoff to an Iraqi prison?

Ouch, you are tough. Works for me.

re: #54 pink freud Y'all best not be standing next to LGFer TypicalWhitey if she reads that!
Missouri Republicans were physically threatened during the '08 campaign and she was one of 'em.

re: #65 realwest

I have a feeling that he only got 15 years because he was very cooperative with his captors.
Still shoulda hung him though.

Is this his last remaining charge? I know he was acquitted on some others previously, but is this the last thing that TA was charged with?

re: #74 realwest

Yeah, LOL, that's the reaction I had when I posted that in the spinoff links last night/this morning!
Sure wonder how the One will respond to this - him wanting the world to love us and all!

The man only cares if the world and all of us love HIM. The US would just be an indirect beneficiary, at best.

re: #28 newsjunkie_ky

Won't last long in prison.

OT
On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: "I certainly hope he doesn't succeed."

repost from previous thread.

Carville quote:

"Look, if George W. Bush and his Republican cronies walked on water, I'd be the guy out there yelling that they couldn't swim. "

re: #73 Chicago Blonde

See, if we really wanted our pound of flesh, we'd make him watch Battlefield Earth...

Double Feature with Caddyshack II.

Free Tariq Aziz! has a website...

Charming.

re: #86 CyanSnowHawk

Double Feature with Caddyshack II.

My brother-in-law had a cameo in Caddyshack. Oddly enough as a caddy.

re: #81 realwest

I remember her talking about that, Real. These people sound insane.

re: #77 LGoPs

That goes beyond the pale. You truly are sadistic...
:)

So says Mr. Blonde. :)

Seriously, after what Ali did, I really don't much care what becomes of him.

re: #54 pink freud

OT: Peek into a moonbat mind:

"Missouri Republicans believe in fairies, unicorns"

//Slams shut.

re: #88 CapeCoddah

My brother-in-law had a cameo in Caddyshack. Oddly enough as a caddy.

My brother was a stunt stand in for the Gopher...:)

/S

re: #86 CyanSnowHawk

Double Feature with Caddyshack II.

... and "Howard the Duck".

re: #79 MJ

Can we send Bernie Madoff to an Iraqi prison?

Pffft, Madoff's little scheme was only for $50 billion.

What about those 535 crooks and the $650 billion scheme know as Social Security?

re: #87 Kenneth

Where the F did you find that? No wait, I would rather not know.

OT: What’s in President Obama’s Portfolio?

Last week, President Obama said that buying stock is a “potentially good deal if you’ve got a long-term perspective on it.” So, the question is, what is the President investing in?

The answer: we don’t know.

But then again, neither does he.

The Obamas’ investments are held in something called a “blind trust.” This type of trust is constructed so that the President and First Lady have no knowledge of what they’re actually investing in, thereby eliminating possible conflicts of interest. Prior to his run for the presidency, the then-Senator put all of his family’s stock investments in a trust that was overseen by an independent trustee. Once in the trust, the Obamas could make no special buy or sell requests. The trustee/advisor could buy and sell stocks independently, without telling the Obamas the details of the transactions, leaving the President in the dark about his investments.

re: #56 taxfreekiller

Would not surprise tfk to see Obama have this thug released and put him in as head of state in Iraq, then walk away.

It would surprise me, if there's any truth to the publicity about Aziz being a Christian. For one thing, the MSM wouldn't let BHO get away with that. Unless Aziz converted to the death cult first.

re: #84 avanti

Carville quote:

"Look, if George W. Bush and his Republican cronies walked on water, I'd be the guy out there yelling that they couldn't swim. "

Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!"

Whores. Rutting pigs.

re: #84 avanti

Did Bush or the then Republican Controlled Congress threaten Carville with prosecution and Congressional investigations? Or demand he be muzzled?

Yet the entire political establishment goes BALLISTIC when Rush Limbaugh, a PRIVATE citizen (Carville is not a private citizen since he has directed political campaigns in the past), dares to voice an opinion of wanting Obama's POLICIES to fail.

re: #87 Kenneth

one of the groups supporting the Free Tariq Aziz campaign has this disgusting website: European-American Socialist People's Front , promoting a novel combination of Communism, Fascism and White Supremacy.

Actually, for a man 73 years of age, 15 years is more cruel than a hanging in my opinion. It means he lives the remainder of his days in a cell in Iraq, vice 73 good years and a quick hanging.

re: #88 CapeCoddah

My brother-in-law had a cameo in Caddyshack. Oddly enough as a caddy.

Salute! The original is absolute comedy gold. I turned 16 the year it came out and saw it many times at the multiplex over in the UTC mall in La Jolla. That Summer's theme was "I'm alright".

re: #86 CyanSnowHawk

Double Feature with Caddyshack II.

Battlefield Earth and Caddyshack II. Now there's a double feature to pack the seats.
/

re: #96 gmsc

OT: What’s in President Obama’s Portfolio?

You mean The One made investments so he could make a PROFIT?!

Do the kool-aid drinkers know about this?

re: #95 brookly red

I guessed there would be such a thing and googled the phrase, "Free Tariq Aziz". The internet is an amazing thing.

re: #103 Honorary Yooper

Battlefield Earth and Caddyshack II. Now there's a double feature to pack the seats.
/

Well, it's gonna pack something.

re: #104 jcm

You mean The One made investments so he could make a PROFIT?!

Do the kool-aid drinkers know about this?

Since it's a blind trust, it's no wonder he doesn't follow the day-to-day gyrations of the stock market (or the general trend, or the basic principles of economics, or...).

re: #96 gmsc

OT: What’s in President Obama’s Portfolio?

"So, thinking about starting your own blind trust? You’re not alone. Polls show that more and more Americans aren’t opening their financial account statements when they get them in the mail. So if you’ve got a pile of statements from your brokerage firm piled up on your hall table, you’re already investing the presidential way."

Heh.

re: #103 Honorary Yooper

Battlefield Earth and Caddyshack II. Now there's a double feature to pack the seats.
/

Pack? Hardly. More like Hurl. ;)

re: #109 pink freud

"So, thinking about starting your own blind trust? You’re not alone. Polls show that more and more Americans aren’t opening their financial account statements when they get them in the mail. So if you’ve got a pile of statements from your brokerage firm piled up on your hall table, you’re already investing the presidential way."

Heh.

Umm, FORT KNOX?

/s

re: #84 avanti

Did you see this little gem?

The press followed Carville's orders, never reporting his or Greenberg's desire for Bush to fail.

Of course they did.

Once upon a time there were some seriously deluded people who tried to convince little girls that there was such a thing as Sex Without Consequences. This was a total lie, and led to a lot of sorrow and pain on the part of the girls.

When other people tried to explain to the girls they were better off waiting until they could deal with the consequences, they were called unrealistic.

The pain and the sorrow continued.

The end.

re: #102 CyanSnowHawk

Salute! The original is absolute comedy gold. I turned 16 the year it came out and saw it many times at the multiplex over in the UTC mall in La Jolla. That Summer's theme was "I'm alright".

LOL, It was good. My BIL also had a cameo in "Nothing in common" again as a caddy. He did a scene with Tom Hanks and Jackie Gleason standing on a putting green. That is the extent of his Hollywood experience.

re: #106 Kenneth

I guessed there would be such a thing and googled the phrase, "Free Tariq Aziz". The internet is an amazing thing.

Ohhh, Google... is a sponsored site?

re: #108 gmsc

Since it's a blind trust, it's no wonder he doesn't follow the day-to-day gyrations of the stock market (or the general trend, or the basic principles of economics, or...).

I like Obama's definition of day to day gyrations... 3000 point free fall.

Kinda like when a plane makes a smoking hole in the ground and the NTSB calls it an "flight mishap."

re: #98 pink freud

Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!"

Whores. Rutting pigs.

I'll wait for a bit more data then the Fox report, it seems a bit sketchy, but we'll see shortly I'm sure. So far, it's a Fox only story.

re: #114 EmmmieG

My only regret is that I could only upding that once!

re: #88 CapeCoddah

My brother-in-law had a cameo in Caddyshack. Oddly enough as a caddy.

A brush with true greatness. Which scenes was he in? I know 'em all.

re: #94 jcm

Uh oh. Sore spot with me jcm - I've paid WAAAY more into social security than I'll ever live to take out of it, not even including interest on the money I've paid in, even if I should get extremely lucky and beat the cancer.
Why the fuck all that money wasn't put into a trust fund the first time around (like the Highway Trust Fund) is beyond me.

re: #105 taxfreekiller

Democrats cheat to win by the use of vote fraud.
They attempt to use any and all ILLEGAL ALIENS TO VOTE FOR THEM.

Now that we are on their sorry ass's about it,,, squealing like the pigs they are at every hearing and vote.

One in a debate with me said ,,,
"But what you are doing is preventing little old ladies who get their purses stole from them on election day from being able to vote."

Out in the open that was all they had, little old ladies getting robbed on the way to vote she says... commies but stupid ass commies,,,

One trick ponies.

re: #121 JohnAdams

A brush with true greatness. Which scenes was he in? I know 'em all.

I would have to ask Hubby, I have not seen the movie in 15 years or so when my husband first pointed it out. I will ask him when he gets home from work.

re: #114 EmmmieG

Don't even get me started on that. I never made it through a single episode of Sex & The City - a friend told me to try it. When one character said she wasn't having sex with her new boyfriend yet and the other character called her stupid for that, I gave up in disgust.

I'm tired of tolerance only going one way.

re: #96 gmsc IIRC, all Presidents are obliged to put their investments into blind trusts.
Too bad we don't require the same of our congresscritters.

re: #116 taxfreekiller

The Revolution is near, you can feel it, its in the air, the commie Democrats overplayed the weak hand they have called Obama.

Judgment comes.

Thus saith the prophet.

re: #119 avanti

I'll wait for a bit more data then the Fox report, it seems a bit sketchy, but we'll see shortly I'm sure. So far, it's a Fox only story.

Waiting for Media Matters to spin it for you?

re: #119 avanti

So you dismiss it simply because it is not reported from any of the other news outlets.

The same outlets said to have complied with Carville's orders to not report on what was said.

Muslim Cleric Anjem Choudary chants his shit on GMTV and ends up looking a tit

re: #114 EmmmieG

Once upon a time there were some seriously deluded people who tried to convince little girls that there was such a thing as Sex Without Consequences. This was a total lie, and led to a lot of sorrow and pain on the part of the girls.

When other people tried to explain to the girls they were better off waiting until they could deal with the consequences, they were called unrealistic.

The pain and the sorrow continued.

The end.

Too bad the author of the piece didn't allow comments.

/she couldn't have handled it.

re: #116 taxfreekiller

The Revolution is near, you can feel it, its in the air, the commie Democrats overplayed the weak hand they have called Obama.

Judgment comes.

There is no revolution coming, elections, yes, revolution, not so much.

re: #129 jcm

Waiting for Media Matters to spin it for you?

Or Fact Check.

re: #127 realwest

IIRC, all Presidents are obliged to put their investments into blind trusts.
Too bad we don't require the same of our congresscritters.

From the same article:

Despite this rather successful use of the blind trust, and the adoption of similar trusts by subsequent Presidents, the use of such instruments by the chief executive has never been mandatory. The only laws pertaining to these presidential trusts state that the trustee/advisor must be completely independent of the executive branch, and that the trust must be free of restrictions regarding the sale or transfer of individual assets. So, basically, you can’t say, “Here are all my stocks, George, do what you will, but don’t sell the Disney stock because the little girls just love that Goofy.”

Well y'all it's been grand but I gotta run now. Hope you all have a grand day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

re: #119 avanti

I'll wait for a bit more data then the Fox report, it seems a bit sketchy, but we'll see shortly I'm sure. So far, it's a Fox only story.

Don't hold your breath. The MFMSM didn't say anything the first time around, why would they now?

Influence/sminfluence, Aziz has most likely been singing like a canary since his capture to avoid the noose and his payoff will be a relatively short delay to his currently scheduled time in hell...

re: #122 realwest

Uh oh. Sore spot with me jcm - I've paid WAAAY more into social security than I'll ever live to take out of it, not even including interest on the money I've paid in, even if I should get extremely lucky and beat the cancer.
Why the fuck all that money wasn't put into a trust fund the first time around (like the Highway Trust Fund) is beyond me.

So he could show he was "doing something" about the impoverished elderly, FDR needed a pension plan that could start paying dividends immediately. The only arrangement he could come up with was a Ponzi scheme.

re: #130 FurryOldGuyJeans

So you dismiss it simply because it is not reported from any of the other news outlets.

The same outlets said to have complied with Carville's orders to not report on what was said.

Not dismissing it, just waiting for more solid info. We are supposed to be skeptical of the MSN, even when it fits our bias.

OT.

Thanks to those of you who listened this morning and came over to the Jake Tapper blog and helped out with posting comments. I have noticed a difference. It is important that we speak out.

If anyone wants to comment on ABC board:

Obama will not be photographed signing stimulus bill

re: #127 realwest

IIRC, all Presidents are obliged to put their investments into blind trusts.
Too bad we don't require the same of our congresscritters.

Won't happen until we toss out every singe congresscritter and craft the legislation before the newbies get used to abusing power etc...

re: #140 taxfreekiller

One man one vote and only by legal U. S. Citizens will be the Revolution.

Democrats can not win unless they cheat.
Without the illegal votes they lie and cheat for they would not be shit.

Count all the Votes (except military) (D).
Count all the legal Votes (R).

re: #135 gmsc
Whoops - didn't see that before I signed off:

Despite this rather successful use of the blind trust, and the adoption of similar trusts by subsequent Presidents, the use of such instruments by the chief executive has never been mandatory. The only laws pertaining to these presidential trusts state that the trustee/advisor must be completely independent of the executive branch, and that the trust must be free of restrictions regarding the sale or transfer of individual assets. So, basically, you can’t say, “Here are all my stocks, George, do what you will, but don’t sell the Disney stock because the little girls just love that Goofy.”

[emphasis realwest]
So is this maybe an emphasis on a different syllable?!
Anyway, outta here for now!

re: #119 avanti

I'll wait for a bit more data then the Fox report, it seems a bit sketchy, but we'll see shortly I'm sure. So far, it's a Fox only story.

Alternatively, are you waiting for Carville to deny the quote?

(I can't follow your train of thought. Because a direct quote is reported by Fox, you are dubious? What?)

/why wait? Discount it now, free up some space for more propaganda.

re: #131 Dustyvet

Muslim Cleric Anjem Choudary chants his shit on GMTV and ends up looking a tit

[Video]

Boob Thread!

re: #87 Kenneth

Free Tariq Aziz! has a website...

Charming.

Free? I wouldn't take him even if you paid me!

re: #137 pink freud

Don't hold your breath. The MFMSM didn't say anything the first time around, why would they now?

That's what Fox is reporting. It sort of begs the question as to why Fox was quite until now. Where they in the tank for the left ? /s

re: #137 pink freud

MFMSM? Oh, wait...yeah, I get it.

re: #119 avanti

I'll wait for a bit more data then the Fox report, it seems a bit sketchy, but we'll see shortly I'm sure. So far, it's a Fox only story.

oh yeah. I'll wait until Couric reports it. LOL Avanti, please, wasn't rathergate a CBS only story and the left bought that hook line and sinker. You may want to think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the right, but I would put FOX's fair & balance up against the MFMSM any day of the week

re: #134 avanti

Or Fact Check.

Same, same.

re: #142 avanti

Not dismissing it, just waiting for more solid info. We are supposed to be skeptical of the MSN, even when it fits our bias.

It doesn't sound at all like Carville does it...
//

re: #122 realwest

Uh oh. Sore spot with me jcm - I've paid WAAAY more into social security than I'll ever live to take out of it, not even including interest on the money I've paid in, even if I should get extremely lucky and beat the cancer.
Why the fuck all that money wasn't put into a trust fund the first time around (like the Highway Trust Fund) is beyond me.

The guy who runs Coyote blog did a really nice breakdown on social security. IIRC it comes out to be about a 3-5% negative return on your money and your employers match.

re: #142 avanti

You are only skeptical of any source that shows your Messiah-King to be a crass Chicago Machine politician.

Sadly a lot of real stories about corrupt politicians are reported by solely one outlet. The rest feign disinterest.

re: #119 avanti

Does a "Lizard" implode when they reach -1000 karma. Can I hope?

Karma: -781

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re: #145 jcm

Count all the Votes (except military) (D).
Count all the legal Votes (R).

Surely you don't believe there were enough fraudulent votes to sway the last election ?

re: #133 avanti

There is no revolution coming, elections, yes, revolution, not so much.

Don't count on it. People are getting pissed off.

re: #151 avanti

That's what Fox is reporting. It sort of !===>begs the question!===! as to why Fox was quite until now. Where they in the tank for the left ? /s

(pssst! O.R.! sic 'em)

re: #142 avanti

Not dismissing it, just waiting for more solid info. We are supposed to be skeptical of the MSN, even when it fits our bias.

It's a QUOTE. It's not an opinion piece. Do you think for one second that Carville wouldn't be screaming on every MSM channel if this were false?

/especially now that Rush has revealed it.

re: #143 Afrocity

OT.

Thanks to those of you who listened this morning and came over to the Jake Tapper blog and helped out with posting comments. I have noticed a difference. It is important that we speak out.

If anyone wants to comment on ABC board:

Obama will not be photographed signing stimulus bill

Why should he be recorded while he publicly repudiates one of his most prominent campaign promises? That would put the lie to all his blather about not being a product of the Chicago Machine.

Morning, beautiful lady. :)

{Afrocity}

re: #153 jjmckay1216

oh yeah. I'll wait until Couric reports it. LOL Avanti, please, wasn't rathergate a CBS only story and the left bought that hook line and sinker. You may want to think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the right, but I would put FOX's fair & balance up against the MFMSM any day of the week

You are so right. There is a lot of criticism about Hannity and O'reilly but I swear by Fox news and found that they report the news in a balanced way unlike CNN and MSNBC. Their coverage of the election was excellent.

re: #163 FurryOldGuyJeans

{furry}

re: #164 Afrocity

Fox News beats CNN any day of the week. When the election results were coming in I was waiting for Campbell Brown to get some pompons and start cheering.

re: #9 Chicago Blonde

Am I out-of-line for wishing him nothing but a pigskin cot to sleep on?

"C-B" -

Won't matter much, Tariq was the "Token Christian" of the Saddam Regime.

-S-

re: #159 avanti

I don't mind "you" liberals in general but you are becoming so boring and predictable. Go find another place to spew you shit.

re: #152 JohnAdams

MFMSM? Oh, wait...yeah, I get it.

/Mandyism

DAMN. They are going to lock him up? Now Obama has to pick some else to head the CIA>

re: #159 avanti

Surely you don't believe there were enough fraudulent votes to sway the last election ?

Combined with 8 years of media character assassination as a warm-up and a Primary campaign where the MFM was the Public Relations branch of the Obama campaign...I'd say, Yes. Fucking-A yes.

re: #166 Chicago Blonde

Fox News beats CNN any day of the week. When the election results were coming in I was waiting for Campbell Brown to get some pompons and start cheering.

You mean Campbell's "poop" Borwn

All Bull, So Biased.

re: #158 Erik The Red

Does a "Lizard" implode when they reach -1000 karma. Can I hope?

Karma: -781

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That's up to Charles. Taxfreekiller should have me at -1000 by mid March, although he's been slipping in down dinging for a day or two, I was below -800 Monday. Get to work killer. :)

re: #159 avanti

Oh course you wouldn't believe any evidence there was enough fraudulent voites since you got what you wanted; an anointed and enthroned Messiah-King.

re: #170 taxfreekiller

Wat you see posted by Avanti is the current Democrat Party sickness.

They have lied to the U.S. to themselves for so long and so often they all believe the lies now and will defend them to the end. The Democrat Party is now a cult of lies and liears no more than that.

Headed by a cult of personality.

re: #174 avanti

That's up to Charles. Taxfreekiller should have me at -1000 by mid March, although he's been slipping in down dinging for a day or two, I was below -800 Monday. Get to work killer. :)

I may start joining tfk in the party.

re: #175 FurryOldGuyJeans

Oh course you wouldn't believe any evidence there was enough fraudulent voites since you got what you wanted; an anointed and enthroned Messiah-King.

Pull down his pants...I bet Acorns will fall out.

re: #162 pink freud

It's a QUOTE. It's not an opinion piece. Do you think for one second that Carville wouldn't be screaming on every MSM channel if this were false?

/especially now that Rush has revealed it.

He may be screaming at some point, but the story is only a few hours old. BTW, not saying he did not say it, just a basic mistrust of the MSM.

re: #178 Erik The Red

I may start joining tfk in the party.

You do the slogans, I can do the artwork & posters. :)

Enjoy lizards.

One of my hero's. Steve and Paul Newman.
When hollywood had class.

This is probably a good thing since it shows that Iraqi justice is not all hack-and-slash (to use a D&D term). Even if the product of influence, it can be spun in a broader way that has future utility.

re: #176 Afrocity

Headed by a cult of personality.

The parallels with prior cultish regimes is absolutely staggering. Subverted Democratic governments overwhelmed by starry-eyed fanatics as the March towards Tyranny is accomplished.

re: #180 avanti

He may be screaming at some point, but the story is only a few hours old. BTW, not saying he did not say it, just a basic mistrust of the MSM.

I distrust them too, avanti, including Fox. My own brain works just fine, I don't need them to tell me what or how to think. This is credible. If it weren't Carville would already be in the courts.

I wish I could stay but I can't. 'Bye Lizards, stay safe & scaly.

re: #151 avanti

Could it be that they didn't know of this before they reported it?

Nah, you want to believe the worst of any source that doesn't maintain full worship mode of your revealed cult leader.

re: #177 buzzsawmonkey

"Raises" the question, dammit. Raises, not "begs."

I have no idea why I use it, but I'm too old to change.

This phrase, whose roots are in Aristotle's writings on logic, came into English in the late 1500s. In the 1990s, however, people sometimes used the phrase as a synonym of "ask the question" (as in The article begs the question: "What are we afraid of?").

re: #186 Chicago Blonde

I wish I could stay but I can't. 'Bye Lizards, stay safe & scaly.

Bye, CB! You have a great day!

re: #125 Chicago Blonde

Don't even get me started on that. I never made it through a single episode of Sex & The City - a friend told me to try it. When one character said she wasn't having sex with her new boyfriend yet and the other character called her stupid for that, I gave up in disgust.

I'm tired of tolerance only going one way.

You got further than I did. The one and only time I turned it on, the blonde was having sex on the fender of a fire truck with a very attractive fire fighter. I was expecting witty banter and sophisticated humor, and I get a truck stop whore. No thanks.

re: #180 avanti

Your mistrust is only directed to any source that doesn't maintain full respectful worship mode of your magnificent revealed cult leader.

re: #191 doppelganglander

You got further than I did. The one and only time I turned it on, the blonde was having sex on the fender of a fire truck with a very attractive fire fighter. I was expecting witty banter and sophisticated humor, and I get a truck stop whore. No thanks.

Didn't you realize that to the "elites" sex on a fire truck fender IS witty banter and sophisticated humor?

re: #191 doppelganglander

I was expecting witty banter and sophisticated humor, and I get a truck stop whore
Also known as a lot lizard. No relation, I'm sure.
;-)

re: #159 avanti

Surely you don't believe there were enough fraudulent votes to sway the last election ?

Hard to prove, but those Acorners were doing their very finest work.

re: #195 debutaunt

Hard to prove, but those Acorners were doing their very finest work.

They were just transplanting nation-wide what they had perfected in Washington State in 2004.

re: #187 FurryOldGuyJeans

Could it be that they didn't know of this before they reported it?

Nah, you want to believe the worst of any source that doesn't maintain full worship mode of your revealed cult leader.

In fairness, would someone at least admit when the MSN reports something you disagree with, you are skeptical ?
I at least acknowledge that it might be accurate rather then say : " It's right wing Fox bullshit" How about a little fair and balance here too.

re: #193 FurryOldGuyJeans

Didn't you realize that to the "elites" sex on a fire truck fender IS witty banter and sophisticated humor?

Can you say "deprogramming"?

re: #198 avanti

In fairness, would someone at least admit when the MSN reports something you disagree with, you are skeptical ?
I at least acknowledge that it might be accurate rather then say : " It's right wing Fox bullshit" How about a little fair and balance here too.

Ultimately, it is not about fair and balanced. It is about TRUTH.

re: #198 avanti

I'm skeptical of the media, period. Not once have I said whether I find the quote and the article as credible or not. I have just been commenting on your out-of-hand knee-jerk rejection.

re: #191 doppelganglander

You got further than I did. The one and only time I turned it on, the blonde was having sex on the fender of a fire truck with a very attractive fire fighter. I was expecting witty banter and sophisticated humor, and I get a truck stop whore. No thanks.

I only watched for the clothes and at the time I lived in NYC so it was nice to see the places they went out to. Now that it is in reruns I don't watch, but I did rent the movie DVD. It is a guilty pleasure.

re: #192 FurryOldGuyJeans

Your mistrust is only directed to any source that doesn't maintain full respectful worship mode of your magnificent revealed cult leader.

You know that is not true. I've agreed that the MSN fawns over BHO and have been critical of some of their coverage. I've been critical of BHO too, and I don't worship anyone.

re: #206 avanti

100% unadulterated BULLSHIT.

re: #159 avanti

Surely you don't believe there were enough fraudulent votes to sway the last election ?

Not the Presidential no.
The '04 WA governors race absolutely.
The '00 WA Senate race probably.

Between Cloward & Piven's Motor Voter, ACORN's KNOWN fraudulent registrations activities (5 ACORN workers jailed in WA). Any close (D) win can be questioned.

You have a don't have with the (D)s call to count every vote? Regardless of provenance?

re: #202 pink freud

Ultimately, it is not about fair and balanced. It is about TRUTH.

Amen, that's what I'm talking about. Truth is neither right nor left. it is what it is.

Okay, my arch nemesis is on the jake tapper blog. a dick named Ryan C.

ARGHHH.

re: #188 avanti

I have no idea why I use it, but I'm too old to change.

This phrase, whose roots are in Aristotle's writings on logic, came into English in the late 1500s. In the 1990s, however, people sometimes used the phrase as a synonym of "ask the question" (as in The article begs the question: "What are we afraid of?").

That doesn't make it right. And if you're too old to change, I suppose we are wasting our breath arguing any point with you. Being too old to change means you consider yourself too old to learn, and if that's the case, why go on breathing? Learning is the whole point of living.

re: #209 avanti

Amen, that's what I'm talking about. Truth is neither right nor left. it is what it is.

The truth of Obama's associations too inconvenient for you?

re: #211 taxfreekiller

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re: #212 doppelganglander

That doesn't make it right. And if you're too old to change, I suppose we are wasting our breath arguing any point with you. Being too old to change means you consider yourself too old to learn, and if that's the case, why go on breathing? Learning is the whole point of living.

I've heard "it's too hard to teach an old dog new tricks". If that's the case it's time to get rid of the old dog and get a new, young one. ;)

re: #208 jcm

Not the Presidential no.
The '04 WA governors race absolutely.
The '00 WA Senate race probably.

Between Cloward & Piven's Motor Voter, ACORN's KNOWN fraudulent registrations activities (5 ACORN workers jailed in WA). Any close (D) win can be questioned.

You have a don't have with the (D)s call to count every vote? Regardless of provenance?

I don't know about those races, just commenting on the contention that the election for POTUS was stolen.

avanti...why don't you answer Buzzsawmonkey? #196
why do you always cherry pick who you answer?

re: #216 avanti

Of course you dismiss any. You got what you wanted.

re: #206 avanti

You know that is not true. I've agreed that the MSN fawns over BHO and have been critical of some of their coverage. I've been critical of BHO too, and I don't worship anyone.

I'll bet you have a little shrine in the corner to yourself

re: #216 avanti

I don't know about those races, just commenting on the contention that the election for POTUS was stolen.

re: #212 doppelganglander

That doesn't make it right. And if you're too old to change, I suppose we are wasting our breath arguing any point with you. Being too old to change means you consider yourself too old to learn, and if that's the case, why go on breathing? Learning is the whole point of living.

If we are going to fight about my poor use of grammar I'll award you the win. I just don't obsess over a turn of phrase.

re: #221 albusteve

I'll bet you have a little shrine in the corner to yourself

One aspect of US Navy culture I found semi-reprehensible was the "Love Me" wall a lot of sailors had in their homes or living quarters where they displayed all the certificates and awards they earned or were given. I had no need nor desire to trumpet to the world how great I was. I let my actions do that.

re: #221 albusteve

I'll bet you have a little shrine in the corner to yourself

Well, I do have a pretty decent ego now that you mention it.

re: #222 jcm

Comment then post
Comment then post

'08 Presidential the margin was too wide.

It doesn't bother you?
ACORN's wide spread fraud.
The (D) repeating the phrase "count every vote" even when it is know votes are fraudulent.

re: #225 avanti

I would bet your "Love Me" wall covers several rooms.

re: #224 FurryOldGuyJeans

One aspect of US Navy culture I found semi-reprehensible was the "Love Me" wall a lot of sailors had in their homes or living quarters where they displayed all the certificates and awards they earned or were given. I had no need nor desire to trumpet to the world how great I was. I let my actions do that.

love love me do...funny, and good for you

re: #225 avanti

Well, I do have a pretty decent ego now that you mention it.

it's called hubris in your case...you seem blind to the fact that you are little more than the LGFs speed bag...

re: #228 FurryOldGuyJeans

I would bet your "Love Me" wall covers several rooms.

he needs an new addition...

re: #218 albusteve

avanti...why don't you answer Buzzsawmonkey? #196
why do you always cherry pick who you answer?

See my #223 about the earth shattering grammar issue.

re: #224 FurryOldGuyJeans

One aspect of US Navy culture I found semi-reprehensible was the "Love Me" wall a lot of sailors had in their homes or living quarters where they displayed all the certificates and awards they earned or were given. I had no need nor desire to trumpet to the world how great I was. I let my actions do that.

I have them in a folder in my file cabinet, does that count ? If my Navy icon upsets you, I'll go with a Studebaker Avanti.

re: #224 FurryOldGuyJeans

One aspect of US Navy culture I found semi-reprehensible was the "Love Me" wall a lot of sailors had in their homes or living quarters where they displayed all the certificates and awards they earned or were given. I had no need nor desire to trumpet to the world how great I was. I let my actions do that.

Not one damned thing wrong with having pride in one's accomplishments.

NOT.
ONE.
DAMN.
THING.

ESPECIALLY if those accomplishments are in the United States military.

/cheap shot

re: #230 albusteve

it's called hubris in your case...you seem blind to the fact that you are little more than the LGFs speed bag...

I can handle a dog pile now and then because I enjoy being here most of the time.

re: #233 avanti

I have them in a folder in my file cabinet, does that count ? If my Navy icon upsets you, I'll go with a Studebaker Avanti.

You earned it, you keep.

This is total bullshit attacking avanti based on whether or not he displays memos of his service.

re: #237 pink freud

You earned it, you keep.

This is total bullshit attacking avanti based on whether or not he displays memos of his service.

Thanks Pink, but time for me to move on to another thread, the dog pile is getting crushing. :)

Say good night 8 of Spades...

Knowing LGF's disdain, even hatred, for terrorism, why do I find no posts about these two horrible events?

re: #238 buzzsawmonkey

Surprise, but it isn't all about you. I have mentioned the misuse of "begs the question" within the last month or so on the board here. You just happened to be one of the people who seems attached to that usage.

Point taken, I'll try to lose that phrase, but I can guarantee you'll see worse abuses of the Kings English from me. (Hoping the Kings English is not another no-no )

re: #223 avanti

If we are going to fight about my poor use of grammar I'll award you the win. I just don't obsess over a turn of phrase.

This isn't a grammar question. It's a question of proper usage and meaning. As buzzsawmonkey notes, improper usage makes you look simultaneously pretentious and ignorant. It also obscures your meaning and makes communication difficult. You are not the Red Queen and you can't make words mean whatever you like. Using language precisely and correctly facilitates the exchange of ideas, which I believe is why we are all here.

I don't mean to pick on you personally about this; I'm just making an example. If one person uses a word or phrase idiosyncratically, and another responds using the dictionary definition, they are talking past each other. The substance of the discussion is lost in a confusion of language. Again not to pick on you, but this is a favorite tactic of the left. Just as any country with "democratic republic" in its name is probably neither democratic nor a republic, most organizations whose name includes words like "peace," "justice," "people's," "fair, "or "unity" are probably socialist pressure groups whose use of those terms bears no resemblance to their common meaning. Insisting on clear, precise, accurate language is vital to clear, precise, accurate thinking.

Oops, I only linked to one.
Fixed.

re: #232 avanti

Buzzsaw's #196 was not about your grammar (structure); it was your misuse of a phrase (vocabulary).

You said one thing when you meant something else. Many educated people will, as a result, roll their eyes and lower their estimation of your brains. Doesn't that bother you?

re: #242 avanti

Point taken, I'll try to lose that phrase, but I can guarantee you'll see worse abuses of the Kings English from me. (Hoping the Kings English is not another no-no )

Damn all this time I've been using the Queen's English... Is there a difference?

re: #246 robdouth

Damn all this time I've been using the Queen's English... Is there a difference?

Not that it makes any difference.
;-)

Sorry to hear he got off so lightly.

re: #248 taxfreekiller

In other good news.

New York Times.
down to as low as $3.74 today, current,, $3.86
lowest ever $3.44 in Feb. 2009

They did the sale lease back on their new building, cost them a lot for
some cash flow. Now they do not own their building, they owe the big Mexican snake guy $250 million and will have to pay $250 million to get the building back.

"tfk" -

Problem is - unless ad revenue goes up soon, and sharply, they are technically bankrupt by mid-year. Wonder who if anyone would give them Debtor In Possession ("DIP") Financing, without the building as collateral?
"Slim" Chance?

-S-

Wasn't he a Catholic?

CHEMICAL ALI (sung to the tune of "Black Superman" by Johnny Wakelin and The Kinshasa Band)
"Black Superman" was a hit on the radio in the mid-1970s, when Muhammad Ali ruled the boxing ring. The tune was a neat and a corny song at the same time. So when a certain official of Saddam's Ba'ath Party was captured in the aftermath of Operation Iraqi Freedom, I thought it was time to "pay tribute" to someone who will go down in history alongside Dr. Josef Mengele.

This is about Ali Hassan al-Majid
He once was known as Chemical Ali
He knew how to intimidate but forgot how to flee
And so we captured him in two thousand three

Refrain
Sing Chemical, Chemical Ali
The gas floats like butterflies and stings like a bee
Chemical, Saddam’s gassin’ man
Who calls to Kofi Annan I'm Ali catch me if you can

Now all you war fans, you've got to agree
There’s no such scruples with Chemical Ali
He fills the jails wherever he goes
And Ba’athists get what they paid for

Chemical was known to have said
Kurds are revolting so I'll choke 'em till dead
He becomes Saddam’s gassin’ man
And calls to Iranians I'm Ali catch me if you can

He thought he was the greatest the world’s ever seen
Then came the willing who turned his face green
His face was so pretty on the deck of cards
Which proved he was with the Ba’ath Party by far

Sing Chemical, Chemical Ali
The gas floats like butterflies and stings like a bee
Chemical, Saddam’s gassin’ man
Who calls to George W. I'm Ali catch me if you can

Sing Chemical, Chemical Ali
The gas floats like butterflies and stings like a bee
Chemical, Saddam’s gassin’ man
Who calls to Mr. Tony Blair I'm Ali catch me if you can

(Coalition Soldiers)
You’re Ali...gotcha now you’re DEAD!

re: #87 Kenneth

Free Tariq Aziz! has a website...

Charming.

I like their elaborate and confusing flag. Is the barbed wire turning into wheat, or what?

Say it ain't so ! All the great comedians - Carlin, Pryor... I'll never forget that routine with our tanks rolling behind him "We are not under attack...' or the
"donkey ride" - ya know the one - carrying the diplomatic pouch (or was it by camel ?). So long ago now - '90 or '91 ? Hysterical ! Bad management and bad press. He shoulda had his own sit/com or SNL shoulda grabbed him... but now, sadly, its too damn late.