Will there be an in-flight movie?

re: #1 Occasional Reader

Will there be an in-flight movie?

Perhaps Tora, Tora, Tora ?

re: #1 Occasional Reader

Will there be an in-flight movie?

Yes. They are showing Hiroshima.

Just begging the Japanese to shoot it down.

They're daring us to shoot it down. We should oblige them but let's face it, Obambi doesn't have the stones.

re: #5 Leonidas Hoplite

They're daring us to shoot it down. We should oblige them but let's face it, Obambi doesn't have the stones.

he only shoots 3s, not missles

Of course there is always the possibility that the missile will explode on take off, or fall into the sea just off the Korean coast.

re: #5 Leonidas Hoplite

They're daring us to shoot it down. We should oblige them but let's face it, Obambi doesn't have the stones.

See previous thread... Japanese announced they would shoot it down if it appears to threaten their territory. So maybe they'll step up.

prediction...the Japanese will take it out and BO will condemn them for their belligerence

This going to force the japanese to remilitarize...

maybe that's whats needed in the PacRim at this point.

oy...

re: #7 Ringo the Gringo

Of course there is always the possibility that the missile will explode on take off, or fall into the sea just off the Korean coast.

Or it could end up like this.

re: #6 albusteve

he only shoots 3s, not missles

And misses.

Could it actually reach Hawaii? Who knows ... but the North Koreans did recently test an ICBM engine that would put California in reach. Whether that engine will power this missile is unknown.

It's not just Japan's problem.

re: #9 albusteve

prediction...the Japanese will take it out and BO will condemn them for their belligerence

I'm a little slow but does Japan have the technology to do this?

re: #6 albusteve

he only shoots 3s bricks, not missles

FTFY.

They will continue to probe us until Obama makes a statement. I won't hold my breath.

The Japanese plan on trying to shoot it down...

If they fail, we need to shoot it down...

We need to shoot it down. Then give a sincere apology for doing so.

re: #7 Ringo the Gringo

Of course there is always the possibility that the missile will explode on take off, or fall into the sea just off the Korean coast.

We need to get Gary Seven and Isis on the job.

re: #1 Occasional Reader

Will there be an in-flight movie?

Dr. Strangelove, Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb.

re: #8 Occasional Reader

See previous thread... Japanese announced they would shoot it down if it appears to threaten their territory. So maybe they'll step up.

The Japanese won't shoot it down either.

re: #16 NYCHardhat

They will continue to probe us until Obama makes a statement. I won't hold my breath.

Wait...how did we start talking about Barney Frank?

Obama won't do anything until a missile smashes through his teleprompter. But then, without his teleprompter to tell him what to say, Obama still won't do anything!

Well it's a well known fact that Pearl Harbor is a much less safe place with a Democrat sleeping in the White House. Just saying.

re: #14 turn

I'm a little slow but does Japan have the technology to do this?

sounds like it...they are not prone to bravado I don't think

re: #22 Ford_Prefect

Wait...how did we start talking about Barney Frank?

eww

re: #21 Leonidas Hoplite

The Japanese won't shoot it down either.

Unfortunately, I agree. We'll get lots of hand-wringing and expressions of "grave concern".

We need a war to get out of the depression anyway.

/ sarc. sarc. sarc.

re: #14 turn

I'm a little slow but does Japan have the technology to do this?

Probably, yes; Aegis system that we sold them.

re: #27 Occasional Reader

Unfortunately, I agree. We'll get lots of hand-wringing and expressions of "grave concern".

And of course, a letter to the UN

re: #19 Occasional Reader

We need to get Gary Seven and Isis on the job.

I'd rather have Dr. Quest and Race Bannon on the job.

/way cooler

Actually, I think they will shoot it down. Because they know with Obama in the White House it's open season on US interests, so it's everyone for themselves.

Somebody should hack into the guidance software and redirect it right up the
"dear leader's"arse.

Quick, send Hillary to Pyongyang with a "reset" button.

re: #26 NYCHardhat

eww

Sorry, couldn't resist.

re: #28 Ojoe

We need a war to get out of the depression anyway.

/ sarc. sarc. sarc.

I think we should declare war on Canada to get us out of it.
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re: #27 Occasional Reader

Unfortunately, I agree. We'll get lots of hand-wringing and expressions of "grave concern".

Yeah, and statement explaining that the flight path did not directly threaten blah blah blah

it needs to have a Standard Missile failure shortly after take off...

somebody call the Navy.

Obama shoot blanks. But I'm sure he may be able to muster up a strongly worded letter that Kim Jong "mentally" Il will promtly use as toilet paper.

re: #14 turn

I'm a little slow but does Japan have the technology to do this?

Yes, they have the same technology ( basically) that we have on our Aegis guided missile cruiser

As a competent leader, he's shooting blanks.

re: #24 Nevergiveup

Oh yeah, well this time we know ahead of time about a Pearl Harbor attack too! Just like in 1941!

/yikes!

To recap, North Korea is about to launch a ballistic missile directly toward Hawaii, and it's going to overfly Japan.

Japan says they have the right to shoot it down, and may do so.

North Korea says trying to shoot down the missile would be an act of war, and they have threatened retaliation, and put their armed forces on standby.

In response, the Obama administration has invited top editors of three major Washington lifestyle magazines to the White House, in order to discuss how the Obamas can more effectively attract the nation's most desired socialites to the White House party scene.

re: #27 Occasional Reader

Unfortunately, I agree. We'll get lots of hand-wringing and expressions of "grave concern".

Sobering.

if it tracks on a course for Hawaii we should kill the thing no matter...then whack the launch sight...give a one sentence explanation...case closed

re: #14 turn

I'm a little slow but does Japan have the technology to do this?

No, not really, they have to be close-in for an air-to-air solution which obviously presents its own problems.

re: #14 turn

I'm a little slow but does Japan have the technology to do this?

NK trying to find out?

re: #45 albusteve

if it tracks on a course for Hawaii we should kill the thing no matter...then whack the launch sight...give a one sentence explanation...case closed

Amen.

re: #43 Last Mohican

Obama = Fail

re: #30 Wishing

And of course, a letter to the UN

Hillary will crawl to Pyongyang to deliver a badly worded button.

re: #45 albusteve

if it tracks on a course for Hawaii we should kill the thing no matter...then whack the launch sight...give a one sentence explanation...case closed

Personally I think we should just take out the launch site before the launch.

re: #45 albusteve

if it tracks on a course for Hawaii we should kill the thing no matter...then whack the launch sight...give a one sentence explanation...case closed

Maybe it's a nirth certifikit seeking missile which is obviously why it is headed for Hawaii. Come on people, open up your minds.

/

I wonder how Barry will respond to his home state being targetted?

I predict whining and bed wetting.

re: #29 Occasional Reader

Probably, yes; Aegis system that we sold them.

I always had the impression that system was for scuds and stuff, not ICBM's.

re: #43 Last Mohican

To recap, North Korea is about to launch a ballistic missile directly toward Hawaii, and it's going to overfly Japan.

Japan says they have the right to shoot it down, and may do so.

North Korea says trying to shoot down the missile would be an act of war, and they have threatened retaliation, and put their armed forces on standby.

In response, the Obama administration has invited top editors of three major Washington lifestyle magazines to the White House, in order to discuss how the Obamas can more effectively attract the nation's most desired socialites to the White House party scene.

President Nero.

What is with the NoKo's? Are they truly nuts? The trajectory of that launch, as detailed in the article, looks like a bad joke.
"Ummm, we're just gonna launch this experimental mass of fuel and metal over the middle of your country, you don't mind do ya? Oh yeah, our Leader is certifiably insane and our military is held together by fear and death, so don't be surprised if we fail and accidentally hit one of your cities..."

I think the world (minus the usual suspects, of course) would have no choice but to support Japan if they knocked it down.

re: #45 albusteve

if it tracks on a course for Hawaii we should kill the thing no matter...then whack the launch sight...give a one sentence explanation...case closed

If it tracks East of Japan we should blow it out of the sky... No joke...

re: #40 Nevergiveup

Yes, they have the same technology ( basically) that we have on our Aegis guided missile cruiser

Hey NGU, will that take out an ICBM?

re: #55 turn

I always had the impression that system was for scuds and stuff, not ICBM's.

It was a modified Aegis Combat System Weapon that shot down that decaying satellite a few months ago.

re: #44 tfc3rid

Sobering.

considering BO is drunk on power

re: #56 Ward Cleaver

President Nero.

Guitar Zero.

Given the state of affairs in North Korean missile technology, I don't know what kind of odds you can give to where this missile will go. You can say what the intended trajectory is supposed to be as per McKittrick, but I would suggest that you use that baseline route as a cone, rather than a straight line, if the missile itself doesn't go off course during the launch phase that is.

Figure that the final landing point could be anywhere within a 500 miles of either side of that line?

Still, it is extremely troubling that the North Koreans want to launch this missile along this heading, given the repercussions of crossing Japanese airspace and Hawaii being along that same course.

There goes his dacha.

re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I wonder how Barry will respond to his home state being targetted?

I predict whining and bed wetting.

What do you mean, it isn't flying near Kenya...

/sarc

re: #59 turn

Hey NGU, will that take out an ICBM?

Haven't they used Standard missiles for stuff like that (tests)?

re: #46 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

No, not really, they have to be close-in for an air-to-air solution which obviously presents its own problems.

What about that Agies, that a ground to air missle isn't it?

re: #52 Nevergiveup

Personally I think we should just take out the launch site before the launch.

DING DING DING

Brings to mind the W. Churchill quote that starts

"If you will not fight when victory will be easy..."

or words to that effect.

I wonder how long until Japan goes under the bus? I hope the Japanese are ready to take care of themselves, because with 0bama for a "friend" they're going to have to.

re: #43 Last Mohican

In response, the Obama administration has invited top editors of three major Washington lifestyle magazines to the White House, in order to discuss how the Obamas can more effectively attract the nation's most desired socialites to the White House party scene

Take THAT, Kim Jong-Il! Man, he must be crapping his pants right about now.

re: #57 Lincolntf

Yes, Norkos are nuts. I got a personal issue with them. My Dad came home in a box fighting them.

re: #60 Nevergiveup

It was a modified Aegis Combat System Weapon that shot down that decaying satellite a few months ago.

Oh, thanks. Well then they do have the technology.

re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I wonder how Barry will respond to his home state being targetted?

I predict whining and bed wetting.

Whereupon the WAB slaps him and says, "Snap out of it, bitch!"

re: #43 Last Mohican

To recap, North Korea is about to launch a ballistic missile directly toward Hawaii, and it's going to overfly Japan.

Japan says they have the right to shoot it down, and may do so.

North Korea says trying to shoot down the missile would be an act of war, and they have threatened retaliation, and put their armed forces on standby.

In response, the Obama administration has invited top editors of three major Washington lifestyle magazines to the White House, in order to discuss how the Obamas can more effectively attract the nation's most desired socialites to the White House party scene.

Now, those are some fucked-up priorities.

re: #63 lawhawk

They're intentionally pushing the envelope.

re: #66 Ward Cleaver

Haven't they used Standard missiles for stuff like that (tests)?

I don't know Ward, we'll find out here I think.

re: #45 albusteve

if it tracks on a course for Hawaii we should kill the thing no matter...then whack the launch sight...give a one sentence explanation...case closed

Problem is Obama's one sentence answer would be "Here is a trillion dollars for the rebuilding of your launch site."

re: #59 turn

Hey NGU, will that take out an ICBM?

Not really. The satellite shoot down was a special circumstance

Sounds like the perfect field test environment for the Boeing YAL-1 airborne laser.

re: #56 Ward Cleaver

President Nero.

DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING

We have a winner!

So ronry...

The missile test is not until first week of April. Obama has plenty of time to send the Norks a package containing his lunch money.

re: #73 Ward Cleaver

Whereupon the WAB slaps him and says, "Snap out of it, bitch!"

I can easily picture barry sucking his thumb and clutching his blankie when the shit hits the fan.

re: #71 rawmuse

Yes, Norkos are nuts. I got a personal issue with them. My Dad came home in a box fighting them.

so sorry...there are debts to pay still

re: #56 Ward Cleaver

President Nero.

Exactly.

If we took out the launch site it would improve confidence in the USA generally, and probably by association it would improve the economy.

re: #1 Occasional Reader

Will there be an in-flight movie?

I feel like I'm watching a bad movie. We all no how it ends, too.

re: #74 MandyManners

Now, those are some fucked-up priorities.

Fucked up but not really surprising...

re: #70 Occasional Reader

Take THAT, Kim Jong-Il! Man, he must be crapping his pants right about now.

Maybe he'll stop in hope that he'll get seated next to Peggy Noonan.

re: #78 Nevergiveup

Not really. The satellite shoot down was a special circumstance

Well now I'm confused (again). Does Japan have the technology to shoot this thing down or what? I think they must because they have said they might and I don't think they would bullshit around.

Biden is kind of an idiot, but he was right about Obama being tested.
Barry never realised that the decisions were so 'BIG"

re: #91 tfc3rid

Fucked up but not really surprising...

I must say that it is surprising to me.

How many in-flight mechanics will they have on this craft?

re: #19 Occasional Reader

And Terri Garr!

re: #43 Last Mohican

To recap, North Korea is about to launch a ballistic missile directly toward Hawaii, and it's going to overfly Japan.

Japan says they have the right to shoot it down, and may do so.

North Korea says trying to shoot down the missile would be an act of war, and they have threatened retaliation, and put their armed forces on standby.

In response, the Obama administration has invited top editors of three major Washington lifestyle magazines to the White House, in order to discuss how the Obamas can more effectively attract the nation's most desired socialites to the White House party scene.

From the second link:
'North Korea put its armed forces on standby for war Monday and threatened retaliation against anyone seeking to stop the regime from launching a satellite into space in the latest barrage of threats from the communist regime.'

Do they honestly think war against Japan is a viable option?

Oh - and why have we heard nothing but silence from China?

re: #51 FlakMusic

Hillary will crawl to Pyongyang to deliver a badly worded button.

Brilliant. Just... Brilliant.

Nothing is going to change here until the people rise up against this dude and his cohorts.

Obama has also promised huge cuts in military spending, and cancellation of the missile defense program, although he does believe that another $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts is crucial for stimulating the economy.

I'm not worried, though. I'm sure that, behind the scenes, the Pentagon has mobilized thousands of troops, who even as we speak are methodically combing Washington-area video stores for DVDs of classic American films with Korean subtitles. That should take care of everything.

re: #94 opnion

Biden is kind of an idiot, but he was right about Obama being tested.
Barry never realised that the decisions were so 'BIG"

How many tests have been/are about to be issued?

re: #90 Kenneth

I feel like I'm watching a bad movie. We all no how it ends, too.

It's kind of like a choose your own adventure book where we all know what we would choose and yet the reader plans on doing something 180 degrees different...

Our leaders need to start acting like the superpower that we are and stop acting like a bunch of scared pussies.

re: #79 Tom Taylor

Sounds like the perfect field test environment for the Boeing YAL-1 airborne laser.

A friend of mine used to be in charge of the test program for that, at Edwards. No kidding.

OT: I don't watch the daily show, or nbc,. Does anyone know what this thing with John Stewart and the loud finance guy is about?

re: #94 opnion

Biden is kind of an idiot, but he was right about Obama being tested.
Barry never realised that the decisions were so 'BIG"

I'm sure Biden was told this by someone intelligent.

re: #90 Kenneth

I feel like I'm watching a bad movie. We all no how it ends, too.

Chuck Norris throws the bad guy out of the back of the plane and when the weaselly politician tries to thank him, Chuck roundhouse kicks him and then goes and kisses the hot red head?

re: #104 VegasRick

Any leaders happen to not be in office now.

re: #101 Last Mohican

Obama has also promised huge cuts in military spending, and cancellation of the missile defense program, although he does believe that another $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts is crucial for stimulating the economy.

I'm not worried, though. I'm sure that, behind the scenes, the Pentagon has mobilized thousands of troops, who even as we speak are methodically combing Washington-area video stores for DVDs of classic American films with Korean subtitles. That should take care of everything.

He promised.

re: #105 Ward Cleaver

A friend of mine used to be in charge of the test program for that, at Edwards. No kidding.

Has he taken a sudden vacation to see the wonderful sights in Japan or Hawaii in the last day or so?

Isn't this precisely what Missile Defense is designed to counter?
And isn't that also precisely what the Democrats have targeted for cutting?
Maybe I won't question their patriotism but I sure as hell will question their judgement. A 5 year old makes more sensible decisions.

re: #113 buzzsawmonkey

We are the world's greatest superpussy, or hadn't you heard?

I feel like I'm getting fucked everyday so I guess so.

Breaking News: another treasury candidate withdraws...Number 4 now

re: #72 turn

Oh, thanks. Well then they do have the technology.

Us or the Japanese?

re: #115 VegasRick

I feel like I'm getting fucked everyday so I guess so.

Funny how growing up, that would be a good thing.

re: #100 jemima

Nothing is going to change here until the people rise up against this dude and his cohorts.

Obama?

O is for overrated

re: #113 buzzsawmonkey

We are the world's greatest superpussy, or hadn't you heard?

Something "just" came to mind.

After a period of us having been pretty firm with the world in terms of international policies and politics... I don't think being a superpussy is a good choice.

All those people who are pissed at us for being up front and personal, are now going to use this opportunity to curb stomp us back.

re: #45 albusteve

if it tracks on a course for Hawaii we should kill the thing no matter...then whack the launch sight...give a one sentence explanation...case closed

That I agree with, if it gets anywhere near US territory, assume it's a threat and take it out. If not, no one will start a war over a missile test, GW did not risk it, nor will BHO.
It's nice to talk tough, but you can't shoot down other countries missiles unless they are a threat to your territory. Since it'll overfly Japan, they could take action, but I doubt they will, since Korea is announcing the flight plan and date of the test in advance.

re: #118 Creeping Eruption

Funny how growing up, that would be a good thing.

I like giving it not getting it.

re: #116 Afrocity

Breaking News: another treasury candidate withdraws...Number 4 now

Talk about a toxic asset. No one wants that seat.

re: #116 Afrocity

Breaking News: another treasury candidate withdraws...Number 4 now

"Aw, number 2."

re: #120 Ford_Prefect

O is for overrated

0 is for zero.

re: #122 avanti

That I agree with, if it gets anywhere near US territory, assume it's a threat and take it out. If not, no one will start a war over a missile test, GW did not risk it, nor will BHO.
It's nice to talk tough, but you can't shoot down other countries missiles unless they are a threat to your territory. Since it'll overfly Japan, they could take action, but I doubt they will, since Korea is announcing the flight plan and date of the test in advance.

we can do whatever we want...don't be so shy

re: #112 Creeping Eruption

Has he taken a sudden vacation to see the wonderful sights in Japan or Hawaii in the last day or so?

Nope, he's not on it anymore. Retired AF. He was over the program that supervised fitting all the equipment into the 747's fuselage. They had a used 747 fuselage just for that purpose (test fit, before going into the real airframe).

re: #117 Nevergiveup

Us or the Japanese?

I thought the fact that Agies shot down a satellite meant it could shoot down the NK missile, now I'm not sure since you said it was a special case. I know we have the technology one of my friends worked on it.

re: #43 Last Mohican

In response, the Obama administration has invited top editors of three major Washington lifestyle magazines to the White House, in order to discuss how the Obamas can more effectively attract the nation's most desired socialites to the White House party scene.

And yet, he was "too tired" and "too preoccupied" to pay attention to the Prime Minister of the UK.

re: #93 turn

Well now I'm confused (again). Does Japan have the technology to shoot this thing down or what? I think they must because they have said they might and I don't think they would bullshit around.

I suspect the Japanese would ahve the technology - tis defensive technology,a fter all, which they are allowed to ahve and develop.
This is what they said:
'Earlier this month Japan suggested it could deploy a vessel equipped with missile interceptor technology to the Sea of Japan (East Sea) to shoot the rocket down.
On Thursday, it called on North Korea to exercise restraint, saying it "would not tolerate" its moves to raise tensions in the region. '
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

No point in telling the Norks to be careful - they are drunk with madness.
But the Japanese won't take this lying down - that booster could as well land on their populated Islands, killing thousands.

re: #102 MandyManners

How many tests have been/are about to be issued?

Hmm, we just had the Chineese come within 25 feet of our ship Impecable, Mexico has decided to have Drug Wars here, The Russians are making noises,& Iran continues the program to build the "Islamic" bomb.
These people are ignoring Hope & Change. They all need "Reset" buttons.

re: #116 Afrocity

Breaking News: another treasury candidate withdraws...Number 4 now

White House has released this statement

re: #70 Occasional Reader

Take THAT, Kim Jong-Il! Man, he must be crapping his pants right about now.

Yeah! Kim Jong-Il can extort as much money out of us as he wants by firing missiles at Hawaii, but the fact is that he throws incredibly lame parties, and the whole world knows it. And the American people can rest assured that the Obama administration is firmly committed to maintaining America's commanding lead in party fabulousness.

re: #122 avanti

That I agree with, if it gets anywhere near US territory, assume it's a threat and take it out. If not, no one will start a war over a missile test, GW did not risk it, nor will BHO.
It's nice to talk tough, but you can't shoot down other countries missiles unless they are a threat to your territory. Since it'll overfly Japan, they could take action, but I doubt they will, since Korea is announcing the flight plan and date of the test in advance.

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!

re: #16 NYCHardhat

They will continue to probe us until Obama makes a statement. I won't hold my breath.

Obama is too busy trying to implement every social lefty program he can, so, NO, he will not address this. Plus he's a little tired!

Obama was just too exhausted to properly greet Gordon Brown - said the job was just more than he expected.

Cry me a fucking river.

He knew going in there was problems with the economy. He knew going in there was issues in the middle east. He knew we were still fighting two wars.

George Bush had no advance warning that 19 assholes were going to murder 3000 Americans. Bush had to immediately shut down ALL American commerce for several weeks after 9/11, then formulate a military response - all while keeping Americans confident in his leadership. His approval ratings soared.

How do you think Obama would have handled 9/11?

re: #107 FlakMusic

I'm sure Biden was told this by someone intelligent.

His wife is a PHD.

re: #133 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

White House has released this statement

LOL

re: #106 Creeping Eruption

OT: I don't watch the daily show, or nbc,. Does anyone know what this thing with John Stewart and the loud finance guy is about?

Stweart ripped Jim Cramer apart last night on The Daily Show, calling him a fraud essentially... Cramer of course, said that the Obama plan is a disaster and socialism...

I don't see what all the fuss is about. I am sure Obama will ask North Korea to unclench its fist.

re: #124 Creeping Eruption

Talk about a toxic asset. No one wants that seat.

"Who farted in this chair? Man!"

re: #133 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

White House has released this statement

ahaha!

Well then, Hawaii is a little too close for comfort for me...

If the Nork missile doesn't have the fuel to reach Hawaii, why should the US shoot it down?

Answer: because not shooting it down is too dangerous. If the Norks do this without any military response, they and other bad guys will conclude that no country has the will to stand up to them militarily. An axis of power will then form, and worse things will happen, demanding even harder decisions.

This is an easy call. The US (not Japan) should call the Nork bluff, say it will shoot down the missile, and wait. If the missile comes, the US should shoot it down. Result: Norks whine, depressed Japan breathes sigh of relief, China appreciates the gesture, and other bad guys take notice.

re: #130 Alouette

And yet, he was "too tired" and "too preoccupied" to pay attention to the Prime Minister of the UK.

Hey, you would be too if you had stayed up until 3 AM boogeying with the managing editor of Vogue.

re: #132 opnion

Hmm, we just had the Chineese come within 25 feet of our ship Impecable, Mexico has decided to have Drug Wars here, The Russians are making noises,& Iran continues the program to build the "Islamic" bomb.
These people are ignoring Hope & Change. They all need "Reset" buttons.

Isn't violence inreasing in Iraq?

re: #140 tfc3rid

Stweart ripped Jim Cramer apart last night on The Daily Show, calling him a fraud essentially... Cramer of course, said that the Obama plan is a disaster and socialism...

Stewart's full of shit.

re: #145 godfrey

{Godfrey} Long time no see.

re: #132 opnion

Hmm, we just had the Chineese come within 25 feet of our ship Impecable, Mexico has decided to have Drug Wars here, The Russians are making noises,& Iran continues the program to build the "Islamic" bomb.
These people are ignoring Hope & Change. They all need "Reset" buttons.

Someone should make up a 'reset' button that says something else, you know, as a little joke.

re: #131 yma o hyd

Tahnks yma :.) Seriously, thanks I didn't know if they did or not.

re: #140 tfc3rid

Stweart ripped Jim Cramer apart last night on The Daily Show, calling him a fraud essentially... Cramer of course, said that the Obama plan is a disaster and socialism...

Thanks. I don't watch either. I assume they are both full of shit. Isn't Stewart a lefty and Cramer a lap dog for banks?

This calls for a sternly worded memo and a mistranslated reset button.

re: #134 Last Mohican

Yeah! Kim Jong-Il can extort as much money out of us as he wants by firing missiles at Hawaii, but the fact is that he throws incredibly lame parties, and the whole world knows it. And the American people can rest assured that the Obama administration is firmly committed to maintaining America's commanding lead in party fabulousness.

Well see that's the thing, if LiL Kim fires on Wednesday that could screw up the weekly White House Soiree. Kim could make Michelle angry & he won't like it if Michelle is angry

re: #116 Afrocity

re: #149 Afrocity

{Afrocity}

Been on and off. Lots going on. News and LGF breaks pretty fast. It's difficult not to watch and then chime in.

Kenneth is also responsible for my working through lunch today: he posted a link to a Niall Ferguson lecture that was, for Ferguson, typically engaging.

re: #129 turn

I thought the fact that Agies shot down a satellite meant it could shoot down the NK missile, now I'm not sure since you said it was a special case. I know we have the technology one of my friends worked on it.

I don't believe the Aegis Combat Systems as normally configured on our Cruisers can shoot down ICBM's so well. There are land based ICBM interceptors on the Japanese Mainland, but I do not know under who's control they are. The Aegis Cruisers may be able to knock down the North Korean Missile in it's initial take off phase?

re: #137 Racer X

How do you think Obama would have handled 9/11?

God protect us!

I predict the weapon will fail, and the north will accuse someone of shooting it down... (Possibly by laser)

re: #137 Racer X

How do you think Obama would have handled 9/11?

I'm thinking something along the lines of curling up under the Resolute desk and sobbing, "It's not fair! It's not faaair!"

re: #160 JustABill

Makes sense.

re: #43 Last Mohican

I just came back to this thread. Not good.

re: #137 Racer X

Well he'd have to take his eyes off the teleprompter and away from reading my little goat to schoolchildres then, then, probably shit his pants or something.

re: #159 Sharmuta

God protect us!

More like "Nancy, what do you think we should do?"

re: #122 avanti

That I agree with, if it gets anywhere near US territory, assume it's a threat and take it out. If not, no one will start a war over a missile test, GW did not risk it, nor will BHO.
It's nice to talk tough, but you can't shoot down other countries missiles unless they are a threat to your territory. Since it'll overfly Japan, they could take action, but I doubt they will, since Korea is announcing the flight plan and date of the test in advance.

Are you suggesting that Japan has to cower and take NOK's missile fly-over over their country just because they announce a flight plan?
Does that mean, i.a.w., that Chavez can 'test' a missile flying over Florida, because he's published a flight plan, and the USA have to take it without a word?

Awww ...

re: #160 JustABill

I predict the weapon will fail, and the north will accuse someone of shooting it down... (Possibly by laser)

I concur, unless Russia is the actual country building it and running it and just doing it from within N. Korea. That would make me pause a bit more.

re: #148 Ward Cleaver

Stewart's full of shit.

Geraldo was on Fox and Friends this morning saying it was wonderful...

re: #145 godfrey

If the Nork missile doesn't have the fuel to reach Hawaii, why should the US shoot it down?

Answer: because not shooting it down is too dangerous. If the Norks do this without any military response, they and other bad guys will conclude that no country has the will to stand up to them militarily. An axis of power will then form, and worse things will happen, demanding even harder decisions.

This is an easy call. The US (not Japan) should call the Nork bluff, say it will shoot down the missile, and wait. If the missile comes, the US should shoot it down. Result: Norks whine, depressed Japan breathes sigh of relief, China appreciates the gesture, and other bad guys take notice.

That is a reasonable assessment, so we know it won't happen that way.

re: #152 Creeping Eruption

Thanks. I don't watch either. I assume they are both full of shit. Isn't Stewart a lefty and Cramer a lap dog for banks?

Pretty much.

re: #137 Racer X

We may soon find out.

A friend from Japan sent me a copy of a typical day in the glorious TV world of Dear Leader Land. It is unbelievable. Continuous praise of that dear little fart with visits of army facilities, talk of miraculous sporting accomplishments of the dictator, marshal music concerts -- old Soviet style stuff but sung in Korean.

I keep it play for guests who have overstayed their visit. If a Japanese defensive missle misfires and takes out dear Kim, at least the TV programs would change somewhat.

re: #170 tfc3rid

Pretty much.

Its unsettling how much shit one absorbs by osmosis. I truly have never watched either one.

re: #167 vxbush

I concur, unless Russia is the actual country building it and running it and just doing it from within N. Korea. That would make me pause a bit more.

I don't think Putin is that crazy

re: #161 Fat Jolly Penguin

I'm thinking something along the lines of curling up under the Resolute desk and sobbing, "It's not fair! It's not faaair!"

"Can't I just eat my waffle? Waaah!"

Update: Dutch police still questioning 2 terror suspects

Prosecutors said they found insufficient evidence to hold five of the seven people arrested Thursday, and were shifting some of their attention to finding the person who phoned in the tip from Belgium on an unregistered cell phone.

A statement from the prosecution's office appeared to cast doubt on the credibility of the bomb threat. It said one person still in custody was "being interviewed for offenses other than terrorist activities," and that stolen goods had been found during a search of his home.

But it said the investigation into the terrorist threat was continuing.

The prosecutor contradicted an earlier statement that all suspects were Dutch nationals of Moroccan origin, and said the two still being held have only Moroccan nationality.

Shoot down that dang "rocket" from North Korea. I'm g-ddamned tired of North Korea.

re: #155 Elcid

I have an iTunes playlist just for the Obamabots

Another One Bites the Dust
Stupid Girl- (for Caroline Kennedy)
Weird Science (for Al gore)
Burning Down the House
Let's Get Physical (for Barney Frank)

and many others

re: #174 Nevergiveup

I don't think Putin is that crazy

I'm not so sure. He wants Russia to be a superpower again. He could see this as a stepping stone to that.

re: #147 MandyManners

Isn't violence inreasing in Iraq?

Yeah there have been some IED's. The real kicker though is the Thal ee Bhan. You would think that they would see the wonder of an Obama Presidency and all immediately become moderate.

Hey Hawaii, that's where I am.

re: #181 Canard51

Hey Hawaii, that's where I am.

Duck!

re: #137 Racer X

How do you think Obama would have handled 9/11?

He would have passed a whole lot of rights restricting laws, while making sure no racial profiling took place, and thrown a whole lot of money away to try to appease the terrorists while apologizing for America's past behavior towards the Middle East. And when it happened again, which it would have, he would have done it all over again, just increasing the dollar amount and apologizing for not giving more money last time.

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Update: Dutch police still questioning 2 terror suspects

I saw/read somewhere that one of those detained was related to one of the Madrid bombers. Is that one they are still holding?

re: #178 Afrocity

Excellent playlist.

Depending on the range of the missile, the trajectory is making a bee-line for Hawaii

If there's a over/under on this I'll take the under.

re: #177 the_flying_pig

Shoot down that dang "rocket" from North Korea. I'm g-ddamned tired of North Korea.

This just goes to prove the old motto: Don't put off for tomorrow what you can do today. We should have dealt with North Korea back in the 50's.

re: #172 Annar

Sounds like MSNBC.

re: #137 Racer X

Obama was just too exhausted to properly greet Gordon Brown - said the job was just more than he expected.

Cry me a fucking river.

He knew going in there was problems with the economy. He knew going in there was issues in the middle east. He knew we were still fighting two wars.

George Bush had no advance warning that 19 assholes were going to murder 3000 Americans. Bush had to immediately shut down ALL American commerce for several weeks after 9/11, then formulate a military response - all while keeping Americans confident in his leadership. His approval ratings soared.

How do you think Obama would have handled 9/11?

Obama is the personifcation of taking the easy way out. Of getting something without earning it.
- Going to Harvard on God knows what credentials
- Running the Harvard Law Review without actually publishing anything
- Winning office by eliminating his opponents through technicalities - not by actually defeating them. The last election speaks for itself - Donald Duck could have won with the MFM blocking for him the way they did.
- Through all this breathtaking lack of accomplishment he did find the time to write not one but two (2), count 'em, 2 books about himself.

No wonder this is too hard for him. And no, I don't think he would have handled 9-11 in anything approaching a competent manner. And all this information was out there before the election but 52% of us seem to like the idea of gambling with the future of their country.
Heaven help us.

re: #175 Ward Cleaver

"Can't I just eat my waffle? Waaah!"

We need a Don Corleone

re: #180 opnion

Yeah there have been some IED's. The real kicker though is the Thal ee Bhan. You would think that they would see the wonder of an Obama Presidency and all immediately become moderate.

Didn't he or Wonder Boy Biden say only five per cent of them are radical or somesuch nonsense?

re: #173 Creeping Eruption

Its unsettling how much shit one absorbs by osmosis. I truly have never watched either one.

Sadly, most folks my age get their 'news' from Stewart and Colbert...

re: #137 Racer X

How do you think Obama would have handled 9/11?

He wouldn't have let the crisis go to waste. There would have been a wholesale attack on speech criticizing the President, more healthcare and welfare spending, pork for the unions and ACORN, nothing to address terroism, except perhaps more diversity classes in universities. Pretty mush the way he'll address any crisis, he'll enact his socialist agenda with no regard for the safety or security of America.

re: #137 Racer X

With an eloquent speech calling for "hope and change" and that we must understand the terrorists' reasons.

re: #192 tfc3rid

Sadly, most folks my age get their 'news' from Stewart and Colbert...

How old are you?

re: #184 Creeping Eruption

I think he's still being held. One article from yesterday said he was the caller.

re: #167 vxbush

I concur, unless Russia is the actual country building it and running it and just doing it from within N. Korea. That would make me pause a bit more.

Nork is within China's sphere - and China won't let Russia have even a sniff of it, becaus that would mean a Russian presence right next to China's other border.
They'd sooner do something nasty across the Yennisey river, the Chinese, than allowing one Russian enar the Nork's missiles!

re: #177 the_flying_pig

Shoot down that dang "rocket" from North Korea. I'm g-ddamned tired of North Korea.

Didn't they 'used' to be in that crazy Axis of Evil thing?

re: #196 Killgore Trout

I think he's still being held. One article from yesterday said he was the caller.

Runs in the family, huh?

re: #198 tfc3rid

Didn't they 'used' to be in that crazy Axis of Evil thing?

Now its just Axis, Bold as Love.

Korean war story...two F-86s spot a long column of Nork light armor, supply and troops transports...one bird goes up to watch for Migs and the other dives in and starts shooting...he cuts up the column badly with rocket and gunfire while he himself is taking fire...he orbits around for a second pass and continues to light up the Norks until he is out of ammo...his plane is hit several times but he and his wingman sneak away safely...that pilot won the DFC...he was my dad's brother and my favorite uncle Verl...I have the original citation

re: #195 Creeping Eruption

How old are you?

32

re: #198 tfc3rid

Didn't they 'used' to be in that crazy Axis of Evil thing?

Israel, Great Britain, and Poland are now on that list?

re: #200 Creeping Eruption

Now its just Axis, Bold as Love.

As the World TBurns.

"Aroha, Hawaii"

re: #183 Ford_Prefect

Frightening as it is, I think you're right.
Didn't the rest of us learn that you can't buy off a bully - that he'll just want more money?

every country in the world is going to wise up and see they can't look to o
to do anything but cause trouble by his weakness and indecision.
what a rude awakening. especially for our allies.

re: #203 Nevergiveup

Israel, Great Britain, and Poland are now on that list?

Ahhh... Obama and the goons will have to reset the Axis of Evil..

re: #197 yma o hyd

Nork is within China's sphere - and China won't let Russia have even a sniff of it, becaus that would mean a Russian presence right next to China's other border.
They'd sooner do something nasty across the Yennisey river, the Chinese, than allowing one Russian enar the Nork's missiles!

Good points. But I'll be honest: I seriously don't think the North Koreans have any ability to do what they say without help from someone. Who does that leave?

re: #202 tfc3rid

32

I guess that makes me out of touch because I am roughly the same age.

re: #210 Creeping Eruption

I guess that makes me out of touch because I am roughly the same age.

OK, well maybe my age and lving in NYC... LOL

re: #192 tfc3rid

Sadly, most folks my age get their 'news' from Stewart and Colbert...

Sad huh, the guy is an entertainer, but then again they all voted for Obama, and he's one too, except less gifted at improv.

re: #199 Creeping Eruption

Runs in the family, huh?

Family tradition.

re: #209 vxbush

Good points. But I'll be honest: I seriously don't think the North Koreans have any ability to do what they say without help from someone. Who does that leave?

Pakistan, Iran, Syria. The world is full of shit heads

re: #122 avanti

Brilliant. Let's let all the bad guys build up massive armies, launch missile test after missile test, and let's not do a thing about it. In fact, let's build bomb shelters and issue lots of warnings. Then, let's spend a lot of money on diplomatic trips to Pyongyang, and to other dictatorial regimes, and ask them to "unclench their fists." They will be so embarrassed, they'll beat their swords into stock shares. If things get testy over the Kobe steak course, we could threaten to stop buying high-quality North Korean exports.

You are tough!

re: #198 tfc3rid

Didn't they 'used' to be in that crazy Axis of Evil thing?

Yep - and wasn't the man who said that derided by all the moonbats, for saying so?
And wasn't he effen right?

re: #211 tfc3rid

OK, well maybe my age and lving in NYC... LOL

And of course your a Met Fan?

re: #192 tfc3rid

Sadly, most folks my age get their 'news' from Stewart and Colbert...

When my husband turns that crap on, I sink in my ear buds as far as they can go...

re: #212 Gretchen

Sad huh, the guy is an entertainer, but then again they all voted for Obama, and he's one too, except less gifted at improv.

He's a comedian... The Daily Show is a parody comedy show of a news show... It's insane that people see it as much more than that...

re: #214 Nevergiveup

Pakistan, Iran, Syria. The world is full of shit heads

Who's our top candidate? I'm thinking Iran, if it's not Russia. But consider that Russia is helping Iran. So they're still in the mix.

re: #193 Gretchen

He wouldn't have let the crisis go to waste. There would have been a wholesale attack on speech criticizing the President, more healthcare and welfare spending, pork for the unions and ACORN, nothing to address terroism, except perhaps more diversity classes in universities. Pretty mush the way he'll address any crisis, he'll enact his socialist agenda with no regard for the safety or security of America.

Pretty much like his war on the economy... Health care, energy, and education are his keys to fixing the economy. None of those things has poop to do with stimulating the economy and none is the reason for its current condition, but he thinks he can use the economy to push a bunch of crap through.

Officials: Obama close to stating new Afghan goals

This does not sound good.

re: #191 MandyManners

Didn't he or Wonder Boy Biden say only five per cent of them are radical or somesuch nonsense?

I think that it was Biden. But being a moderate Taliban is lioke being the tallest midget.
Could some of them be bribed to stand down for a while & spend more time with their goats ? Probably, but in the end they are blood thirsty Religious fanatics & bullys at heart. They will return to their comfort level which is murder, mayhem & torture.

re: #201 albusteve

Korean war story...two F-86s spot a long column of Nork light armor, supply and troops transports...one bird goes up to watch for Migs and the other dives in and starts shooting...he cuts up the column badly with rocket and gunfire while he himself is taking fire...he orbits around for a second pass and continues to light up the Norks until he is out of ammo...his plane is hit several times but he and his wingman sneak away safely...that pilot won the DFC...he was my dad's brother and my favorite uncle Verl...I have the original citation

Sounds like an episode of Dogfights, even though there isn't any dogfighting going on...

Never underestimate the Norks!

Maybe they lack anything but not will! And the regime will not go down quietly. If going to war is a way to stay in power just a little bit longer - they will!

With the actual power vacuum an outbreak of violence is the only thing they have left - to reduce the enemy within: fight the west.

re: #203 Nevergiveup

Israel, Great Britain, and Poland are now on that list?

Aww - Great Britain isn't quite worthy of being on that list yet - but wait for the time when we have a Tory PM, then we definitely will be!

re: #217 Nevergiveup

And of course your a Met Fan?

Of course!

re: #219 tfc3rid

He's a comedian... The Daily Show is a parody comedy show of a news show... It's insane that people see it as much more than that...

AmIdol mentality...droolers

re: #220 vxbush

Who's our top candidate? I'm thinking Iran, if it's not Russia. But consider that Russia is helping Iran. So they're still in the mix.

Originally the Mother of all these ass holes getting the Bomb/Missiles is Pakistan and that Khan guy.

re: #111 MandyManners

He promised.

[Video]

"I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons."

I wish he could hurry up on that one, seeing as how he's not going to try to stop North Korea from developing missiles that can reach America. Maybe he's too busy figuring out how to cure cancer.

re: #33 hellosnackbar

Somebody should hack into the guidance software and redirect it right up the
"dear leader's"arse.

My guess is that the software is a couple of starved North Koreans sitting in the missile with a bunch of levers.

re: #209 vxbush

Good points. But I'll be honest: I seriously don't think the North Koreans have any ability to do what they say without help from someone. Who does that leave?

Rumour has it that it was that wonderful, peaceful country called Pah-ke-stahn ...

re: #222 Kenneth

Officials: Obama close to stating new Afghan goals

This does not sound good.

Oh Jesus christ... Aren't the goals to destory the Taliban and Al Qaeda?

re: #223 opnion

I think that it was Biden. But being a moderate Taliban is lioke being the tallest midget.
Could some of them be bribed to stand down for a while & spend more time with their goats ? Probably, but in the end they are blood thirsty Religious fanatics & bullys at heart. They will return to their comfort level which is murder, mayhem & torture.

That's the same idiot who wanted to give Iran $250,000,000.00 following 9-11.

re: #226 yma o hyd

Aww - Great Britain isn't quite worthy of being on that list yet - but wait for the time when we have a Tory PM, then we definitely will be!

Yeah I agree but remember nobody has had the time to explain British Politics to Obama yet. To him, your all still alike.

NorKor wants re-engagement, Obama is oblivious. The man lives in a vacuum.

re: #222 Kenneth

The result: intensified Taliban influence in the mountains, rebuilt bases for terrorists, stronger hard-line Muslim pressure on Islamabad, greater instability between Pakistan and India, and ... silence from Obama.

Cheers from the socialist peanut gallery, of course.

re: #222 Kenneth

Officials: Obama close to stating new Afghan goals

This does not sound good.

We all know what his goals are.

re: #137 Racer X

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re: #230 Last Mohican

"I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons."

I wish he could hurry up on that one, seeing as how he's not going to try to stop North Korea from developing missiles that can reach America. Maybe he's too busy figuring out how to cure cancer.

No. He's too busy trying to figure out whom to invite to his parties.

re: #224 Leonidas Hoplite

Sounds like an episode of Dogfights, even though there isn't any dogfighting going on...

he killed 2 Mig 15s...he was only there 5 months when he was brought back as a test pilot

re: #214 Nevergiveup

Pakistan, Iran, Syria. The world is full of shit heads

Pakistan just decided to free Dr. Khan, their rogue salesman of nuclear weapon secrets, without any further restrictions on him. And I'm sure he'd love to buy himself that new Macbook Pro.

If the Japanese don't have the technology to shoot it down, we should loan it to them.

It is time for this Korean Pip Squeak to understand the might of "The ONE!" (TM) and fear us.

LMAO, I can't believe that I said that... FEAR THE ONE!

I can wake up now... the monkeys flying out of my ass have disturbed my day dreams...

// really...

Rock a Hula Baby!

re: #222 Kenneth

Officials: Obama close to stating new Afghan goals

This does not sound good.

Oh f*ck.
That sounds very very bad.

Speak of self-fulfilling prophecy: 'nobody has ever won in a'stan - so we can't win either - so we won't even try'.

Byger.

Hmmm -- if you're firing a missile from Pyongyang and you're trying to avoid an overfly of the following:

(1) Russia
(2) China
(3) S. Korea

...you're pretty much gonna end up with a trajectory going more or less towards Hawaii.

I'd say it's a given that they don't want to overfly Russia or China. The only question is, are they accidentally aiming at Hawaii because they're deliberately avoiding S. Korea, or are they accidentally avoiding S. Korea because they're deliberately aiming towards Hawaii?

I hope that question makes sense.

re: #234 MandyManners

That's the same idiot who wanted to give Iran $250,000,000.00 following 9-11.

Seriously? What was Biden's rationale?

Q: Does NK have a warhead?

re: #236 pat

NorKor wants re-engagement, Obama is oblivious. The man lives in a vacuum.

Hello everyone the world LOVES America now that Obama is President. Get with the program, this is Rush Limbaugh and George Bush's fault.

re: #233 tfc3rid

Nope, the new goal is to make the "O" look good and increase his favorability numbers.

re: #225 Tom Taylor

The Nork regime needs a war to stay in power? Against what internal threat? They have the country not only in total lockdown, but in abused, boot-licking squalor.

re: #241 albusteve

he killed 2 Mig 15s...he was only there 5 months when he was brought back as a test pilot

A truly great story. Must have been quite a guy.

re: #246 Throbert McGee

Hmmm -- if you're firing a missile from Pyongyang and you're trying to avoid an overfly of the following:

(1) Russia
(2) China
(3) S. Korea

...you're pretty much gonna end up with a trajectory going more or less towards Hawaii.

I'd say it's a given that they don't want to overfly Russia or China. The only question is, are they accidentally aiming at Hawaii because they're deliberately avoiding S. Korea, or are they accidentally avoiding S. Korea because they're deliberately aiming towards Hawaii?

I hope that question makes sense.

A smoking hot launch site makes sense to me.

re: #214 Nevergiveup

Pakistan, Iran, Syria. The world is full of shit heads

IIRC the Iranians and Syrians got their technology from North Korea.
The Iranians have been doing a better job of upgrading their copies of North Korean copies of Russian copies of Nazi missiles than the North Koreans themselves have.

re: #181 Canard51

Hey Hawaii, that's where I am.

If this missile gets anywhere near Hawaii then those who voted for the Messiah will have second thoughts for about three days.

Taq posted. Time to put up a new thread. Right on cue.
*sigh*

re: #248 Taqiyyotomist

Q: Does NK have a warhead?

Very Doubtful

If you think THIS is the beginning of being tested just wait !

With meglomaniacs in the sandbox getting bored with all their toys and future toys this is only the beginning.

You have Hugo with Putin

You have DinnerJacket itching for The 12th Imam and the 17 virgins
( a new movie coming soon )

re: #256 Taqiyyotomist

lol

re: #231 abaleh

My guess is that the software is a couple of starved North Koreans sitting in the missile with a bunch of levers.

Those are the in-flight missile repairmen...

Never fails!

re: #18 ROPMA

We need to shoot it down. Then give a sincere apology for doing so.

Perhaps we ought to put the apology first.
;)