I hope they watched it at Liberty University

Thanks, watching now...

They make me shimmy and shake,
All for David Attenborough's sake,
They're a bunch of cannibals,
Those goddamn animals

/Lyric I wrote in highschool.

The entire uninterrupted program, in a single stream, is available here:

[Link: video.google.com...]

Anyone else have 6 blank white boxes instead of video links? I tried refreshing too.

re: #4 Salamantis

The entire uninterrupted program, in a single stream, is available here:

Let's embed that puppy:

re: #5 snowcrash

Anyone else have 6 blank white boxes instead of video links? I tried refreshing too.

Your operating system has yet to evolve!

//

Which operating system and which browser?

Double click in the white box see if the link to YouTube is active.

wow monkees, birds and a dude, oh my

re: #8 jjmckay1216

wow monkees, birds and a dude, oh my

Folsom street fair?

There is just noboby who sounds as nice as David Attenborough.

re: #9 Shug

Folsom street fair?

thinking sesame street

I find it slightly amusing that I am watching this streaming video while I have creationist Huckabee muted on the TV

re: #7 jcm
Sal and Charles posted an alternate so I'm good! I plead the Fifth regarding what operating system and browser I'm using. lol

re: #1 Shug

I hope they watched it at Liberty University

You may be confident that they did not.

One of the things I love about my trips to the UK is that this stuff is on tv all the time. Really cool documentaries about history, nature and science. All on regular prime time tv. Unthinkable here in America.

Southpark Theory Of Evolution

You are the retarded offspring of 5 monkeys having butt sex with a retarded fishsquirrel.

Well that settle that.

Next subject!

Nice. Something to watch later...

Off to the store.

re: #15 Killgore Trout

One of the things I love about my trips to the UK is that this stuff is on tv all the time. Really cool documentaries about history, nature and science. All on regular prime time tv. Unthinkable here in America.

OK, it was beautifully filmed, educational and narrated superbly, but does the UK have Wife Swap?

/

Meanwhile, late Friday afternoon in Texas representative Leo Berman(R) introduced a bill that will allow the ICR to grant science degrees...

[Link: www.antievolution.org...]

re: #11 jjmckay1216

Think OPPOSITE of Sesame Street. Look at Zombie's website - if you dare MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Link: www.zombietime.com...]

re: #18 kay1212

OK, it was beautifully filmed, educational and narrated superbly, but does the UK have Wife Swap?

/

No but George Galloway was on their edition of 'Celebrity Big Brother'.

/spits

Any evidence that doesn't support the conclusion is automatically false.

re: #20 ArmyWife

been there lol need puppets and big heads lol

re: #20 ArmyWife

Think OPPOSITE of Sesame Street. Look at Zombie's website - if you dare MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Link: www.zombietime.com...]

Be very certain you want to click that link before you do, folks. The pics are just nasty.

re: #22 DeathtotheSwiss

Any evidence that doesn't support the conclusion is automatically false.

Which conclusion?

re: #18 kay1212

OK, it was beautifully filmed, educational and narrated superbly, but does the UK have Wife Swap?

/

Yes they do. They had it before we did. That's the other cool thing; seeing all the show ideas before they show up here.

re: #9 Shug

Folsom street fair?

No matter what the thread, no matter what the topic -- one of my reports inevitably gets referenced.

...

...

Usually that one.

re: #27 zombie

lol ur site cracks me up. i have never seen that much wierdness in person, lol

" I think"

Quite unlike the folks at the Discovery Institute

re: #26 Killgore Trout

I only knew about The Office, which is terrific in both the UK and US version. OK, I'll see their 'Wife Swap' and raise them 'Housewives of Atlanta'. How's that for quality US programming?

Seriously, I hope this program airs in the US.

I watch more net vids than TV shows...am I a square?

I'll call #138 for the first meltdown.

Will it get to #138?

re: #32 Killgore Trout

I'll call #138 for the first meltdown.

"if you look for trouble you will find it"
Chairman Mao

From wiki: Although Attenborough's documentaries have attained immense popularity in the United States, several have never been made available on DVD in NTSC format, most notably those that cast doubt upon conservative religious or political positions. These include:

Life on Earth, which examines the evidence for evolution.
State of the Planet
The Truth About Climate Change
I loved "Planet Earth" the hi-def eye candy from last year but I never heard of the others titles. Attenborough knows how to tell a story.

I think many of the DI shills have now given up here, realizing that the more they extend this debate the more foolish they look. They've now gone back to low profile, don't look behind the curtain mode.

re: #32 Killgore Trout

I'll call #138 for the first meltdown.

I remember the Dayes of Yore...

Long ago, when evolution threads were few and far between, the ratio was completely reversed. I remember one thread where me and a now-disappeared commenter named "Thom" all by ourselves grappled with about 300 LGF creationists.

I was completely shocked like I had never been before. Because in "my world" I had never met a creationist, or anyone even resembling a creationist, and thought they were extinct. Thom and I were ganged up on for hours and hours.

Being right, however, I wouldn't back down.

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

It's the basic law of fundamentalist religion and faith. Global warmers will take a blizzard and turn it into undeniable proof that the Earth is warming, Creationists take mass extinctions, variation in species, fossils, aging methods, biology and observable micro-evolution and tell then interpret their "holy" book in a way that proves them right.

re: #37 zombie

I knew a few creationists in college (I had a conservatory education) but I've come across very few of them in the real world. I was surprised how many were here.

re: #38 DeathtotheSwiss

Or just deny it out-right.

re: #39 Killgore Trout

I knew a few creationists in college (I had a conservatory education) but I've come across very few of them in the real world. I was surprised how many were here.

I've met a few throughout my time in the military. One was one of the smartest people I ever met. Really nice guy too.

In his case though, he didn't push it onto others. Like the other creationists I've met.

re: #36 Thanos

I think many of the DI shills have now given up here, realizing that the more they extend this debate the more foolish they look. They've now gone back to low profile, don't look behind the curtain mode.

There are still one or two hanging around who don't mind looking foolish:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

When I was working for the cable co. in SF I as a favor to a friend who was a 7th day Adventist / Creationist I used to repair the sound system (and it was very impressive - any sound venue of the day would have been proud of it...) at a local church. Every time I came the pastor would come out a do a "Come to Jesus" speech on the stage and everyone would troop down, hoping I think that one day I would tag along I suppose. Instead I always smiled and waved, and then got back to work on the cables and mixers, which they would always get out of whack over a couple of weeks. They were kind hearted good people, but we certainly stayed away from all things to do with science when I visited.

re: #42 Charles

Do you remember those early days, when there were about 4 or 5 evolution-defenders against hundreds of creationists?

Those weren't even "intentional" evolution threads -- the topic just sort of came up on rare occasion.

And whatever became of Thom, my foxhole buddy? (Though we never once communicated outside the threads.)

re: #42 Charles

There are still one or two hanging around who don't mind looking foolish:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I imagine that the great big stick in the sky has been invoked enough though that only the most diehard (and willing to at least be a little more polite) remain.

I think the general ID crowd has already decided we are all going to hell.

re: #45 LudwigVanQuixote

I imagine that the great big stick in the sky has been invoked enough though that only the most diehard (and willing to at least be a little more polite) remain.

I think the general ID crowd has already decided we are all going to hell.

Rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints...

/Billy Joel

re: #42 Charles

Every village has its idiot?

re: #45 LudwigVanQuixote

I imagine that the great big stick in the sky has been invoked enough though that only the most diehard (and willing to at least be a little more polite) remain.

I think the general ID crowd has already decided we are all going to hell.

They've done their Christian duty, run into the room scream "REPENT OR BURN."

If my closest mammalian ancestor was a giant rat, so be it.

re: #49 mfarmer1

If my closest mammalian ancestor was a giant rat, so be it.

You dirty rat...

re: #46 talon_262

Rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints...

/Billy Joel

Great tune! Ahhh Virginia...

But hey, seriously, as Twain put it, I would not be so keen on their perception of heaven.

Twain said,

A man can bearly stand two hours of sermons and singing on a Sunday afternoon. How could he possibly bear an eternity of it?

re: #48 jcm

They've done their Christian duty, run into the room scream "REPENT OR BURN."

That crowd generally is convinced I'm going to hell from the get go...

I guess I'm used to it.

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Be very certain you want to click that link before you do, folks. The pics are just nasty.

Yea, but everyone needs to see the Folsom Street Fair to fully understand it. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen those pics!

Hi! I'm just dropping in to see how everyone is, and to say how much I appreciate Sir Richard's nature documentaries. I watched Life on Earth four times, back when, and adored it. I learned huge amounts of things I never knew before, each time.

I believe I'll have another beer.

can someone tell me out pam geller and her kids?

re: #55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I believe I'll have another beer.

You go boy!
*wink*

i heard they were threatened?

re: #44 zombie

Do you remember those early days, when there were about 4 or 5 evolution-defenders against hundreds of creationists?

I think it really started with this mammoth thread (2,357 comments):

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I believe I'll have another beer.

I'm having a glass of Castle Rock Pinot. It's quite soft and light.

Dinner tonight is: Salad, w/ vinaigrette. Tuscan style beefsteak (sauce is presently steaming gently over the lowest heat), accompanied by linguini in a cream sauce, topped with sun dried tomatoes, capers, and smoked salmon. Desert is a white cake/white chocolate/raspberry bar.

We're going heavy on carbs because one of our guests just buried her grandmother today.

Evening all.
Empire Strikes Back is on Spike.

re: #59 Charles

I remember that thread!

re: #56 jjmckay1216

can someone tell me out pam geller and her kids?

No. Why?

re: #59 Charles

I think it really started with this mammoth thread (2,357 comments):

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Damn, it's been almost a year since that thread! Man, how time flies...

re: #52 LudwigVanQuixote

That crowd generally is convinced I'm going to hell from the get go...

I guess I'm used to it.

I've been a strong critic of my Christian brethren for that attitude around here.

or point me to the thread?

re: #60 Dianna Is the Tuscan style sauce in the LGF cookbook? If not will you share it? (Drooling here.)

re: #63 Dianna

long story short. she is sposed to do a radio show with a guy who is bad dude.

re: #59 Charles

I think it really started with this mammoth thread (2,357 comments):

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Yeah, a lot of the YECs went nuclear over us calling out Stein for hypocrisy and idiotarianism. IIRC, there were a lot of bannings in that thread, and shortly thereafter.

re: #61 Jim in Virginia

JIminVA - if you would know - Dinwiddie County schools. Good? Bad?

To keep on topic, I would like to have my children exposed to evolution in Science class, so I'm checking out calibers of schools.

re: #58 jjmckay1216

i heard they were threatened?

What?! By whom?

re: #15 Killgore Trout

One of the things I love about my trips to the UK is that this stuff is on tv all the time. Really cool documentaries about history, nature and science. All on regular prime time tv. Unthinkable here in America.

Mainstream American TV is dreadful.

i know we don't like her here

re: #67 Jim in Virginia

Is the Tuscan style sauce in the LGF cookbook? If not will you share it? (Drooling here.)

I will share send it to Reine. I hadn't thought of it - I'll get it together.

re: #73 jjmckay1216

If you want to talk about Pamela Geller, I suggest you do it at her blog.

re: #71 Dianna

that's what i am trying to find out. it was here on LGF

re: #68 jjmckay1216

long story short. she is sposed to do a radio show with a guy who is bad dude.

OK, I'm confused, and I don't understand. I'm going to disappear as soon as my friends get here, so I don't think I've got time to look it all up.

re: #15 Killgore Trout

One of the things I love about my trips to the UK is that this stuff is on tv all the time. Really cool documentaries about history, nature and science. All on regular prime time tv. Unthinkable here in America.

Yeah, but Evangeline Lilly is so freaking hot!

re: #75 Charles

If you want to talk about Pamela Geller, I suggest you do it at her blog.

Got it, sorry.

re: #75 Charles

sorry Charles. I saw a story here awhile back and wanted to read more about it. i am really sorry

re: #20 ArmyWife

Think OPPOSITE of Sesame Street. Look at Zombie's website - if you dare MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Link: www.zombietime.com...]

Zombie, I carefully read your stance and why you chose to show this. You did the right thing for the right reasons - and I agree with you as to your basic stance.

That said,

WOW. I had no idea. I mean, where I grew up, something like that would lead to arrests and prison time (probably some rioting too).

I was impressed by blue lipped medieval warrior nun guy though.

re: #59 Charles

I think it really started with this mammoth thread (2,357 comments):

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Interesting to go through that thread and look at the dings. Hot topic indeed.

re: #65 jcm

I've been a strong critic of my Christian brethren for that attitude around here.

I know buddy, don't worry about it.

Congrats Jimmah!

re: #81 LudwigVanQuixote

I was impressed by blue lipped medieval warrior nun guy though.

One of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. They used to rollerskate in formation on Saturday afternoons, back in the 80's.

re: #59 Charles

I think it really started with this mammoth thread (2,357 comments):

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I'm talkin' waayyy before that. I'm talking 2004-ish, four years earlier.

re: #72 FrogMarch

Mainstream American TV is dreadful.

I dunno. I like CSI: Miami, and The Shield was awesome. American has a number of good programs but they are outnumbered by the drek.

re: #83 LudwigVanQuixote

I know buddy, don't worry about it.

Thanks, I can't tell you how cranky the DI crowd and apologist make me.

re: #84 Basho

Congrats Jimmah!

Hey thanks for the Global Warming links you posted to me several weeks ago.

been meaning to thank you but didn't get the chance till now

re: #70 ArmyWife

Rural and somewhat poor county, from what I know. A general rule (intuiton, not knowledge) would be that the farther you get from suburban Richmond, (Henrico and Chesterfield), housing is less expensive but schools are not as good. But I've got no specific info. FBV might know.
How old are the kids?

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

I dunno. I like CSI: Miami, and The Shield was awesome. American has a number of good programs but they are outnumbered by the drek.

"99% of everything is crap."

- Theodore Sturgeon.

re: #60 Dianna

Sounds like a lovely/bittersweet evening.

re: #85 Dianna

One of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. They used to rollerskate in formation on Saturday afternoons, back in the 80's.

So they were like a rock band or performance art kind of thing?

"I think"

Anybody here watch The Unit?

OT

Charles, I don't know if you know this, but Inayat Bunglawala was arrested.

Don't you have some history with him?

[Link: deathby1000papercuts.com...]

I'm gone - dinner's up.

just finished.

excellent video. What an amazing man Darwin was

re: #70 ArmyWife

To keep on topic, I would like to have my children exposed to evolution in Science class, so I'm checking out calibers of schools.

Don't know a thing about Dinwiddie or the schools.

But, stay the "F" out of Petersburg.

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

I dunno. I like CSI: Miami, and The Shield was awesome. American has a number of good programs but they are outnumbered by the drek.

network TV is a black hole...you get sucked in and you are a gonner

re: #96 FQ Kafir

Mr Bunglawala, who also briefed former Security Minister Tony McNulty on the threat posed by Islamic radicals in the UK, was arrested two weeks before Christmas last year.

How odd. I wonder why it took so long for this to come out? Very curious story.

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't know a thing about Dinwiddie or the schools.

But, stay the "F" out of Petersburg.

Ditto.

re: #96 FQ Kafir

Btw, Nice find.

In watching the amazing scientific works, the sacrifice, the thoughtfullness, the bravery Charles Darwin posessed I get sort of Angry when I read about the guy from Liberty University, teaching Biology of all things, corrupting young minds.
The creationists wanting to mandate their magic in the classrooms of states all across America.

What a shame

Language Warning

The David Attenborough special the BBC never aired:

re: #88 jcm

Thanks, I can't tell you how cranky the DI crowd and apologist make me.

Ohhh, they bother me too. That said, as a person of faith, I can admit that there are those in all faiths, my own included, who are less than aware of commandments to love one's fellows. Everyone knows the difference between kind and not kind.

re: #105 Basho

I love that clip.

re: #105 Basho

One of my favs

I grew up in the "Gold Buckle of the Bible Belt". Went to public schools. Never heard a word of creationism in a class, not a single word. That was 30 years ago. My kids haven't heard it either.

re: #90 Jim in Virginia

One off too college, so not an issue. The other is going into 6th grade, so middle and high is very important. I've found a few in Chesterfield I like. The one in Dinwiddie had a great barn and indoor riding ring, but I really need to have the schools up there. I'll be there next Saturday looking at houses, to make a final determination.

re: #81 LudwigVanQuixote

Zombie, I carefully read your stance and why you chose to show this. You did the right thing for the right reasons - and I agree with you as to your basic stance.

That said,

WOW. I had no idea. I mean, where I grew up, something like that would lead to arrests and prison time (probably some rioting too).

I was impressed by blue lipped medieval warrior nun guy though.

You think the Folsom Street Fair report was bad?

You halve no idea. People are simply too afraid to even mention my follow-up report, which really does make Folsom Street look like Sesame Street:

***WARNING: EXTREME NSFW NOTICE ***

DO NOT CLICK IF YOU VALUE YOUR MIND

Zombietime: Up Your Alley Fair 2008 report

DO NOT CLICK IF YOU VALUE YOUR MIND

***WARNING: EXTREME NSFW NOTICE ***

re: #111 zombie

I saw it. Wow. People really do those things? Wow again.

re: #105 Basho

Might as well link to part 2:

re: #22 DeathtotheSwiss

Any evidence that doesn't support the conclusion is automatically false.

There IS NO evidence that contradicts the conclusion.

re: #111 zombie

Damn.
I like Lienenkugel

re: #111 zombie

Septic.

If I ever step into SF again I'm going to wear surgical gloves.

re: #116 Gus 802

Septic.

If I ever step into SF again I'm going to wear surgical gloves.

You'll get offers...

Well we over a 100 posts..OT
About an hour ago I let my dog out to do his biz.. After a while I went to let him in and he was gone..I found one of the 3 fence doors open in the back yard and totally freaked out.. I went running through the fields screaming for Winston..Nothing...He could be anywhere.. I came home with tears in my eyes..I lost my only pet dog in my life..And there was Winston laying on the front porch..I spanked his butt once and kissed him on the nose at the same time.. I think he thinks I'm totally stupid..
Dang dogs...Don't do this to me! It's like losing a kid in the Mall..total panic!

Good video with nice narration of historical events and beautiful nature footage.

re: #117 jcm

I know. I thought about that when I hit post.

re: #103 Killgore Trout

Found it on the spinoff links. Just wanted to raise its profile.

re: #49 mfarmer1

If my closest mammalian ancestor was a giant rat, so be it.

Actually, your closest mammalian ancestor was the now-extinct hominid from which humans and chimpanzees evolutionarily diverged.

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I grew up in the "Gold Buckle of the Bible Belt". Went to public schools. Never heard a word of creationism in a class, not a single word. That was 30 years ago. My kids haven't heard it either.

Same for me on my upbringing.

re: #118 HoosierHoops

awww! Those dogs. Mr. Armywife keeps leave our gate open in the hopes the chihuahuas wander away. But they are afraid of the big bad world, so no dice!

re: #111 zombie

most.
disgusting.
thing.
I.
have.
ever.
seen.

I'm going to do some more house searching. See you guys later!

Kepler's Streak

re: #125 Shug

Err... I think I saw that several months ago (won't click on the link to confirm). Those images haunted me for days...

re: #127 Racer X

Kepler's Streak

Kepler, never would have streaked... have you no shame!

/;-P

re: #127 Racer X

Kepler's Streak

Cool pic!

re: #127 Racer X

Thanks.

re: #126 ArmyWife

I'm going to do some more house searching. See you guys later!

Shouldn't take long. They're not hard to find, being slow movers* and all...

..

..

..

(*Kansas and Oklahoma excepted)

MegaDittoes on the Kepler pic. And yes, this Kepler went streaking - and we'll be the better for it.

Horsehead and Orion Nebulae

re: #111 zombie

I did view that report. How did you keep your composure while taking those pictures?

re: #122 Salamantis

Actually, your closest mammalian ancestor was the now-extinct hominid from which humans and chimpanzees evolutionarily diverged.

Homer Simpson's complete evolutionary history:

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

I did view that report. How did you keep your composure while taking those pictures?

That is my secret.

Astronomy Picture of the Day Archive

If you want to kill a couple hours - and fill your screensaver folder - check these images out.

*click image to enlarge.

wow. i have never been called out by the master lizard. i feel like an idiot. To anyone i offended, i apologize, ok?

re: #134 Racer X

How does space know what a horse looks like?

re: #137 zombie

That is my secret.

I hope you were wearing a HAZMAT suit

Thanks for the hat-tip Charles!

re: #122 Salamantis

Actually, your closest mammalian ancestor was the now-extinct hominid from which humans and chimpanzees evolutionarily diverged.

I think I meant to say my "earliest" mammalian ancestor. You were expecting me, to like, be like, you know, like so accurate and everything.

re: #137 zombie

That is my secret.

Fair enough. I was able to stand the photos, but I would never have been able to keep the look of disgust off my face.

Towercam sunset. The gloaming by now, really. See the glory of it all, San Gabriel Mountains of California, Pacific time zone.

Good evening all.

re: #141 Shug

I hope you were wearing a HAZMAT suit

One of those condom advertising suits, camouflage and hazmat protection.

re: #111 zombie

And here lies the hypocrisy. Try doing any of these acts in any other city in America. The authorities would throw these people in jail for breaking the law.

re: #147 Racer X

And here lies the hypocrisy. Try doing any of these acts in any other city in America. The authorities would throw these people in jail for breaking the law.

It's illegal in SF also... just tolerated.

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I grew up in the "Gold Buckle of the Bible Belt".

Tulsa?

Attenborough has been a great educator on the natural world and evolution for as long as I can remember. Richard Dawkins names him as one of the seven wonders of the world in this video, which is a pretty unusual honour for a mere presenter and narrator:

re: #145 Ojoe

Awesome view tonight! Saved as a jpg.

Beeb sure knows how to do a documentary...excellent!

re: #111 zombie

You think the Folsom Street Fair report was bad?

You halve no idea. People are simply too afraid to even mention my follow-up report, which really does make Folsom Street look like Sesame Street:

***WARNING: EXTREME NSFW NOTICE ***

DO NOT CLICK IF YOU VALUE YOUR MIND

Zombietime: Up Your Alley Fair 2008 report

DO NOT CLICK IF YOU VALUE YOUR MIND

***WARNING: EXTREME NSFW NOTICE ***

Ohhh dear G-d.

This is where I am in a difficult place to even express myself.

I strongly, even as a religious and observant person, believe that what consenting adults do privately is between them and G-d. I've gotten into some heated discussions with some more right-wing members of my synagogue over that view.

However, private is different from public. Where is there any sense of decency? If I went and did something with a woman like that publicly, we would (and should) be arrested. What is wrong with SF that this is even in the scope of acceptability?

While we are at it, what is wrong with the gay pride movement that thinks this could possibly help their cause? It is one thing to talk about one's private rights of romantic expression as a responsible person. It is another to claim that you have the right to force your sexuality into the view of others. It is nothing more than depravity to make such displays. The guy "relieving his excitement" out of his window was simply horrifying.

I simply had no idea that SF was that messed up.

re: #118 HoosierHoops

Well we over a 100 posts..OT
About an hour ago I let my dog out to do his biz.. After a while I went to let him in and he was gone..I found one of the 3 fence doors open in the back yard and totally freaked out.. I went running through the fields screaming for Winston..Nothing...He could be anywhere.. I came home with tears in my eyes..I lost my only pet dog in my life..And there was Winston laying on the front porch..I spanked his butt once and kissed him on the nose at the same time.. I think he thinks I'm totally stupid..
Dang dogs...Don't do this to me! It's like losing a kid in the Mall..total panic!

Watson the Wonder Dog has escaped the house several times.
He runs.
Fast.

Watson sends a big woof- out to Winston.

re: #154 LudwigVanQuixote

I simply had no idea that SF was that messed up.

Sometimes the rumors are true.

re: #118 HoosierHoops

Well we over a 100 posts..OT
About an hour ago I let my dog out to do his biz.. After a while I went to let him in and he was gone..I found one of the 3 fence doors open in the back yard and totally freaked out.. I went running through the fields screaming for Winston..Nothing...He could be anywhere.. I came home with tears in my eyes..I lost my only pet dog in my life..And there was Winston laying on the front porch..I spanked his butt once and kissed him on the nose at the same time.. I think he thinks I'm totally stupid..
Dang dogs...Don't do this to me! It's like losing a kid in the Mall..total panic!

I have a whippet. They look like mini greyhounds. He runs over 30mph and as a sight hound, you just don't take him off leash.

Once, he slipped out of his leash on a walk and took off after squirell.

It took me six hours to find him. I love that dog like a son. I didn't know if I wanted to hug him or strangle him.

re: #105 Basho

Language Warning

The David Attenborough special the BBC never aired:

LOL

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't know a thing about Dinwiddie or the schools.

But, stay the "F" out of Petersburg.

What does that mean? Petersburg where?

re: #156 itellu3times

Sometimes the rumors are true.

san fran is THE most screwed up city in America...it boggles the mind...a shame really

Luminous mice!

re: #159 Naso Tang

Virginia. Petersburg, VA is an awful place.

re: #163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Virginia. Petersburg, VA is an awful place.

cool Civil War stuff tho

re: #164 albusteve

Fascinating. Awful place to live.

I'm checking out a bit, I re read the old thread and the arguments haven't changed much from the DI side since that seminal thread, while the ones against them now are sharpened to a laser focus.

All it took was a bit of digging on the DI and their motives.

re: #157 LudwigVanQuixote

I have a whippet. They look like mini greyhounds. He runs over 30mph and as a sight hound, you just don't take him off leash.

Once, he slipped out of his leash on a walk and took off after squirell.

It took me six hours to find him. I love that dog like a son. I didn't know if I wanted to hug him or strangle him.

I have a Jack Russell. All 12 pounds of her. Take here for walks in the National forests up north. She runs 3 miles for every one I walk, deer trails and all that, but if I whistle she is there in 10 seconds.

re: #163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Virginia. Petersburg, VA is an awful place.

What's wrong with it?

re: #166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fascinating. Awful place to live.

I'm a professional tourist...I just scoop up the goodies and move on

re: #159 Naso Tang

What does that mean? Petersburg where?

Virginia. Its best days were before General Grant captured it.
Armywife is looking for real estate.

re: #168 Naso Tang

I have a Jack Russell. All 12 pounds of her. Take here for walks in the National forests up north. She runs 3 miles for every one I walk, deer trails and all that, but if I whistle she is there in 10 seconds.

My other dog is a TR terrier, I like that better than rat terrier. I have no problem with come commands with either of them. The thing with sight hounds though, is that once that chase switch gets thrown in their heads, forget it. They are off and then they get lost.

re: #163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Virginia. Petersburg, VA is an awful place.

Sorry to hear it. I thought you might have meant St. Petersburg, FL. My kids got a good schooling there, but they were both in magnet programs. Kind of schools within the schools.

I meant I like the name TR terrier better than rat terrier, they are the smae breed.

Excellent video Charles!

Thanks Jimmah!

re: #169 MandyManners

Ghetto. Almost the entire town.

A few nice areas, but it is mostly awful.

Can not imagine sending my kids to the schools there. That was the focus of my post. ArmyWife is moving to that area.

re: #174 LudwigVanQuixote

I meant I like the name TR terrier better than rat terrier, they are the smae breed.

I call mine a rat terrier; it's more acceptable than what I think when he takes off, which is rat-bastard terrier.

re: #173 Naso Tang

Sorry to hear it. I thought you might have meant St. Petersburg, FL. My kids got a good schooling there, but they were both in magnet programs. Kind of schools within the schools.

I spent six hours in the Dali museum in St Pete. Different world.

re: #163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Virginia. Petersburg, VA is an awful place.

Why?

Busch Gardens VA is one of the top three amusement parks in America...just a beautiful place and a premier attraction

re: #178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I spent six hours in the Dali museum

How do tell time with a floppy watch?

re: #172 LudwigVanQuixote

My other dog is a TR terrier, I like that better than rat terrier. I have no problem with come commands with either of them. The thing with sight hounds though, is that once that chase switch gets thrown in their heads, forget it. They are off and then they get lost.

Yeah. I've run into lost hunting dogs in the forest. They will follow you for miles, in car or on foot. The trick is to go past the campsite areas, then they decide to pick someone else; but a rat terrier is my dog's best friend up there. I can sit all day and just watch them play.

Just dropping by until the baby wakes up for a late feeding. Has anyone seen this about the Michelle Obama comic book?
Some jokes just write themselves.

re: #177 OldLineTexan

I call mine a rat terrier; it's more acceptable than what I think when he takes off, which is rat-bastard terrier.

Mine is of the long leg variety. The little guy is frighteningly smart.

re: #180 albusteve

And it is not in Petersburg.

re: #183 livefreeor die

Just dropping by until the baby wakes up for a late feeding. Has anyone seen this about the Michelle Obama comic book?
Some jokes just write themselves.

I'm thinking Catwoman meets Veronica.

re: #181 Jim in Virginia

How do tell time with a floppy watch?

Who cares if you are having fun?

re: #181 Jim in Virginia

How do tell time with a floppy watch?

Pour it into a clear bottle and shake it to keep the piece wound up?

re: #182 Naso Tang

Yeah. I've run into lost hunting dogs in the forest. They will follow you for miles, in car or on foot. The trick is to go past the campsite areas, then they decide to pick someone else; but a rat terrier is my dog's best friend up there. I can sit all day and just watch them play.

Is there a way to post pics here? And if so, would it be kosher to put up a pic of my boys?

re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And it is not in Petersburg.

It's in Virginia. From Albuquerque you can hardly tell the difference.

re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And it is not in Petersburg.

maybe I've confused it with Billy Bob's Alligator Garden and Bait Shop

re: #165 taxfreekiller

Crap, got leg crams, been out horse back most of the day, to f'n old for this shit, got to go walk them off,,, later,,,

If you drink diet sodas..Stop.

re: #186 Jim in Virginia

I'm thinking Catwoman meets Veronica.

Throw in a little bit of Venom.

re: #181 Jim in Virginia

How do tell time with a floppy watch?

I was telling someone about it today, as a matter of fact. Had an hour to spend, stayed for six.

Spent an hour and a half in front of "Columbus Discovers America".

re: #184 LudwigVanQuixote

Mine is of the long leg variety. The little guy is frighteningly smart.

Yes, mine is not short-legged, but I have seen taller ones. I am trying to keep him from becoming fat as he enters late middle-life. Which is difficult with the two poodles in the house, since they ALWAYS prefer the other dog's food. ;)

re: #182 Naso Tang

Yeah. I've run into lost hunting dogs in the forest. They will follow you for miles, in car or on foot. The trick is to go past the campsite areas, then they decide to pick someone else; but a rat terrier is my dog's best friend up there. I can sit all day and just watch them play.

Yeah, it's not that they like being lost, they just got all wound up and off they went. When my whippet got off leash that time I found him because I heard him whining.

re: #180 albusteve

Busch Gardens VA is one of the top three amusement parks in America...just a beautiful place and a premier attraction

There's one in Petersburg, VA and one (close enough) in St. Petersburg, FL?

No kidding?

re: #183 livefreeor die

Just dropping by until the baby wakes up for a late feeding. Has anyone seen this about the Michelle Obama comic book?
Some jokes just write themselves.

For the first time Oprah shares the cover of her mag...

re: #186 Jim in Virginia

I'm thinking Catwoman meets Veronica.

That makes Barack Jughaidears.

re: #176 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ghetto. Almost the entire town.

A few nice areas, but it is mostly awful.

Can not imagine sending my kids to the schools there. That was the focus of my post. ArmyWife is moving to that area.

I'm looking at the "Bird's Eye View" of Petersberg. Yikes, the place looks totally run down. Lots of dirt lawns. Houses without windows.

Highest crime rate in Virginia for 2007.

Go to [Link: maps.live.com...] and search for Petersberg, VA and click on "Bird's Eye View."

re: #190 Jim in Virginia

It's in Virginia. From Albuquerque you can hardly tell the difference.

I've toured VA many times...it's a beautiful and historic state...I don't make excuses for the people or politics or the mess up north...VA has never let me down

re: #189 LudwigVanQuixote

Is there a way to post pics here? And if so, would it be kosher to put up a pic of my boys?

Only if you have a youtube video of them.
The more enlightened lizards here love dogs.

Then there are the cat people. Fah!

re: #189 LudwigVanQuixote

Is there a way to post pics here? And if so, would it be kosher to put up a pic of my boys?

I think you have to post to a site (like Picasa) and then link. I'll see if I can put one up. Hang on.

re: #198 jcm

For the first time Oprah shares the cover of her mag...

She looks like a mannequin in that picture. Seriously.
And their dresses clash.
/meow

re: #190 Jim in Virginia

It's in Virginia. From Albuquerque you can hardly tell the difference.

Point taken. But, for a minute there you made Petersburg, VA not seem like Camden, NJ.

re: #195 OldLineTexan

Yes, mine is not short-legged, but I have seen taller ones. I am trying to keep him from becoming fat as he enters late middle-life. Which is difficult with the two poodles in the house, since they ALWAYS prefer the other dog's food. ;)

I have the same issue with my terrier. I have to watch his diet like a hawk, and all 16 lbs of him, he will bully the whippet (35 lbs) if he is hungry enough. I have found that a mixture of raw diet, Royal Canin indoor small breed feed and a little nutro wet food do well to regulate him - this is not counting all dog taxes paid to both when cooking, but I keep that to a minimum. What do you feed yours?

re: #206 LudwigVanQuixote

I have the same issue with my terrier. I have to watch his diet like a hawk, and all 16 lbs of him, he will bully the whippet (35 lbs) if he is hungry enough. I have found that a mixture of raw diet, Royal Canin indoor small breed feed and a little nutro wet food do well to regulate him - this is not counting all dog taxes paid to both when cooking, but I keep that to a minimum. What do you feed yours?

He's on Eukanuba dry food, because I had to put the Nutro weight-loss stuff up. The poodle pup was eating it. And of course, the rat terrier was knocking the pup off his puppy food bowl. The other poodle is on the old "seafood" diet. ;)

I have started giving him carrots as treats.

re: #199 OldLineTexan

That makes Barack Jughaidears.

It is a winter or very late fall pic...thus all the icky brown.

re: #202 Jim in Virginia

Only if you have a youtube video of them.
The more enlightened lizards here love dogs.

Then there are the cat people. Fah!

I respect the Constitutional right of American citizens under the First Amendment, to love cats. I do not share their religion however...

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re: #82 Racer X

Interesting to go through that thread and look at the dings. Hot topic indeed.

Hah. I got a -4 ding for #676 which said that Expelled fans were equivalent to Loose Change fans, and that creationism was the "same disease" as 9/11 trooferism.

re: #207 OldLineTexan

Oh, and he gets no kitchen scraps within sight of the stove, refrigerator, or a plate. If he's out back, I will occasionally toss out some meat trimmings. I hate begging dogs, and this is the only way I have found to keep them off my plate.

re: #191 albusteve

maybe I've confused it with Billy Bob's Alligator Garden and Bait Shop

You're thinking of South of the Border.

Pakistan to battle fundamentalism with science

heh

Issue of Gun Rights Still Holds Sway

But there is one issue that retains the power to leave Democrats quivering: gun rights. Gun issues still persistently tie the party in knots and have been used by Republicans to stall two major bills this year, with more likely to come.

[snip]

It is a particularly hot-button topic with veteran Congressional Democrats who believe the party’s strong support for a 1994 assault weapons ban was the real reason they lost control of the House that year — not the House bank scandal, the failed health care initiative, the Contract with America or Newt Gingrich.

The power of that bad memory was unmistakable a few weeks ago in the immediacy with which Speaker Nancy Pelosi shot down the suggestion by new Attorney General Eric Holder that Congress might reinstitute the assault weapons ban.

“On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,” said Ms. Pelosi, echoing the position often taken by advocates of gun rights.

[snip]

“The Second Amendment right is a long-standing pillar in our system of government, and I believe law-abiding citizens should have the right to defend their homes in the District of Columbia, just like they have the ability to do so in the First Congressional District of Mississippi,” said Mr. Childers, who persuaded 81 other Democrats to side with him.

re: #199 OldLineTexan

That makes Barack Jughaidears.

They can include that wacky time the Browns came to visit.

re: #212 Jim in Virginia

You're thinking of South of the Border.

yeah..I just made that up...you knew that

re: #189 LudwigVanQuixote

Is there a way to post pics here? And if so, would it be kosher to put up a pic of my boys?

Here's mine, actually my daughter's, but that's how it goes.

Jack Russell girl

re: #201 albusteve
We've now got Senator Jim Webb, Senator Mark Warner, and Governor Tim Kaine. All Dems. Warner on a good day is a reasonably smart man. The other two are worthless. And it may get worse. Terry McAuliffe is running for governor this year. With any luck the Republican (McDonnell) will win.

re: #217 Naso Tang

Here's mine, actually my daughter's, but that's how it goes.

Jack Russell girl

She is beautiful!

Inayat Bunglawala (Official UK Terrorist Advisor) has been arrested on suspicion of stabbing a man at his own home.

You will have to find the link/sites yourselves since I think I am not allowed to post it here.

re: #219 Wishing

She is beautiful!

Yeah. If I was younger and single, the place to be with her is in a cart in Home Depot. Talk about chick magnet...

re: #218 Jim in Virginia

We've now got Senator Jim Webb, Senator Mark Warner, and Governor Tim Kaine. All Dems. Warner on a good day is a reasonably smart man. The other two are worthless. And it may get worse. Terry McAuliffe is running for governor this year. With any luck the Republican (McDonnell) will win.

we have three reps here and the rest...all donks and mostly corrupt with Richardson leading the charge...help is on the way for NM, Val Kilmer is planning on running for gov...good grief

re: #209 LudwigVanQuixote

I respect the Constitutional right of American citizens under the First Amendment, to love cats. I do not share their religion however...

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I would support the mass deportation of cat lovers.

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re: #220 Piglet-U93

Inayat Bunglawala (Official UK Terrorist Advisor) has been arrested on suspicion of stabbing a man at his own home.

You will have to find the link/sites yourselves since I think I am not allowed to post it here.

It's in the Daily Mail already. You can post that here.

re: #216 albusteve
We're all just spoofin here. Mostly.

Sean Penn for President!

re: #226 albusteve

Sean Penn for President!

He's too conservative for my taste.

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One of the things I love about my trips to the UK is that this stuff is on tv all the time. Really cool documentaries about history, nature and science. All on regular prime time tv. Unthinkable here in America.

I made an appearance in a BBC documentary in 2006, that was to be a scientific documentary to accompany their Superstorm fictional drama. Superstorm was later on discovery channel too, but they dumbed down and totally sensationalized the "documentary" , taking the science and history out of it.

re: #225 Jim in Virginia

We're all just spoofin here. Mostly.

With the exception of Petersburg, Va being an awful place.

re: #224 Gus 802

It's in the Daily Mail already. You can post that here.

Inayat Bunglawala (Official UK Terrorist Advisor) has been arrested on suspicion of stabbing a man at his own home.

re: #225 Jim in Virginia

We're all just spoofin here. Mostly.

think so?...I take my tacos very seriously amigo

re: #226 albusteve

Sean Penn for President!

Sean Penn is on the record for bailouts.

re: #222 albusteve

, Val Kilmer is planning on running for gov...good grief

I assume as a Democrat?

re: #211 OldLineTexan

Oh, and he gets no kitchen scraps within sight of the stove, refrigerator, or a plate. If he's out back, I will occasionally toss out some meat trimmings. I hate begging dogs, and this is the only way I have found to keep them off my plate.

I understand that. I never, just give them their food. Always they must sit and wait - or do some other type of obedience. On the other hand, I confess that I am a little weak willed and the thought of not giving them some treats rarely computes with me.

re: #232 jcm

Sean Penn is on the record for bailouts.

ha!...looks like he has a firm grip on his bong tho

Oh right. Obama is going to negotiate with the Iranians when the son-of-a bitch can't even tell AIG to go fuck themselves?

A.I.G. Planning $100 Million in Bonuses After Huge Bailout
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

re: #233 Jim in Virginia

I assume as a Democrat?

of course...he is a Santa Fe donk elitist

Thank you Charles! That was delightful I was able to watch all 6 while my tuna helper was cooking.

re: #223 Jim in Virginia

I would support the mass deportation of cat lovers.

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:-p

re: #235 albusteve

ha!...looks like he has a firm grip on his bong tho

Is that what that is? I thought it was a pepper crusher.

Harry's Place has a good piece on 'Bungle', and the idiocy of the government in their dealings with "Islamic advisers".

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

re: #217 Naso Tang

Here's mine, actually my daughter's, but that's how it goes.

Jack Russell girl

Adorable! I'm having some technical difficulties with Picassa... but Jacks and RTs can look very similar. She remminds my of my little guy. Though he is reddish brindle with white flashes on belly, feet, nose and tail tip.

re: #231 albusteve
You won't find me arguing that Virginia has better Mexican food than New Mexico.
That would be like saying Petersburg VA is the garden spot of the South.

re: #236 MJ

Oh right. Obama is going to negotiate with the Iranians when the son-of-a bitch can't even tell AIG to go fuck themselves?

A.I.G. Planning $100 Million in Bonuses After Huge Bailout
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

He saves his "go f--k yourselves" for Americans who live within their means and have a work ethic.

re: #214 jcm

Issue of Gun Rights Still Holds Sway

Well, at least some people in Congress understand that antagonizing your constituents is not a good idea.

re: #241 Jimmah

Harry's Place has a good piece on 'Bungle', and the idiocy of the government in their dealings with "Islamic advisers".

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

You are on fire tonight buddy!

re: #245 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, especially not the ones who are armed.
;-)

re: #240 Gus 802

Is that what that is? I thought it was a pepper crusher.

they know how to convert them...tricky fuckers..."officer that's just my pepper mill!"

re: #248 albusteve

they know how to convert them...tricky fuckers..."officer that's just my pepper mill!"

Sneaky!

"Honest officer, that's not a bong. Haven't you ever seen an oboe before? I'm on my way to the symphony."

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re: #243 Jim in Virginia

You won't find me arguing that Virginia has better Mexican food than New Mexico.
That would be like saying Petersburg VA is the garden spot of the South.

as a tourist I'm pretty much oblivious...did you know VA is for lovers?..where is the love?

re: #236 MJ

Oh right. Obama is going to negotiate with the Iranians when the son-of-a bitch can't even tell AIG to go fuck themselves?

A.I.G. Planning $100 Million in Bonuses After Huge Bailout
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Turning serious,

The thought of corporate welfare to the very people who f'd this economy up with my tax dollars makes me want to riot. Gee thanks guys.

And while we are at it, the GOP hardly did better in the management of round one. This is where both parties need some independent auditing - and jail time.

re: #249 Gus 802

Sneaky!

"Honest officer, that's not a bong. Haven't you ever seen an oboe before? I'm on my way to the symphony."

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one time my wife was discussing my parts and finally said "well it's not a tuba!"...

re: #238 purple

You need to evolve from "Tuna Helper".
/

re: #252 albusteve

one time my wife was discussing my parts and finally said "well it's not a tuba!"...

Ha! That's a good one. What parts?

re: #253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You need to evolve from "Tuna Helper".
/

And my thought was...it took an HOUR?

re: #253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You need to evolve from "Tuna Helper".
/

Dolphin Helper, a higher form...

re: #256 jcm

Dolphin Helper, a higher form...

Dolphin: the other white meat.

Nite folks :)

re: #254 Gus 802

Ha! That's a good one. What parts?

my Sousaphone dumbass!