Not only do we not understand the universe, if someone explained it to us, we wouldn’t know what he was talking about.

"He"? How about "she" for a change?

Good evening all. Night shift checking in finally. Have I missed much lately?

I still like Curried Goat.

Not only do we not understand the universe, if someone explained it to us, we wouldn’t know what he was talking about.

One could argue that the great spiritual teachers* of the ages -- Buddha, Lao-Tzu, Jesus, Adam Sandler -- have explained the universe very well, in terms that billions of people have understood.

*(Note: Mohammed is pointedly excluded from this list.)

Same with the stock market. Especially if Obama is explaining it.

re: #1 zombie

"He"? How about "she" for a change?

I knew it! You're a girl!

re: #2 BlueCanuck

I had a burger...88% lean ground beef sprinked with some Knorr Aromat and black pepper with some American Cheese on top along with some iceberg lettuce and some sliced tomato on a kaiser bun with a mix of hunt's ketchup, Tabasco sauce and a little spicy chipotle mustard.

Consider yourself brought up to speed.

re: #5 Milk in a Box

P/E ratios especially

This time the actual quote:

A man said to the universe:
"Sir I exist!"
"However," replied the universe,
"The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation."

-- Stephen Crane

There's a Lovecraftian quote that says something similar, but as only H. P. Lovecraft could put it. It says something like, "It's a good thing the human mind is limited the way it is. Otherwise, when we figured out the universe, we'd go insane."

re: #4 zombie

have explained the universe very well, in terms that billions

So did Carl Sagan!

Not only do we not understand the universe, if someone explained it to us, we wouldn’t know what he was talking about.

It's true. It can be explain with one word that covers the formation of stars and galaxies right down to life on planets: evolution. And it seems far too many have no idea what anyone using that word is talking about.

re: #12 Sharmuta

It's true. It can be explain with one word that covers the formation of stars and galaxies right down to life on planets: evolution. And it seems far too many have no idea what anyone using that word is talking about.

It doesn't help that so many using that word are using it inappropriately.

re: #6 Milk in a Box

I knew it! You're a girl!

First- if zombie is female, that would be "woman". Second- men are just as capable of demanding gender equality as women are.

Crap, I'm down to five hours of sleep.

G'nite, all.

re: #10 victor_yugo

Ftaghn!

re: #1 zombie

Ever hear of Tristan Anderson, 38, of Oakland?

/a protest too far

re: #7 Fenway_Nation

I had a burger...88% lean ground beef sprinked with some Knorr Aromat and black pepper with some American Cheese on top along with some iceberg lettuce and some sliced tomato on a kaiser bun with a mix of hunt's ketchup, Tabasco sauce and a little spicy chipotle mustard.

Consider yourself brought up to speed.

Mostly good, but why American? Bleu-cheese burgers are where it's at, with that sour-spicy salt kick. Mmm. Grgglgargl [drool] /homersimpson

re: #15 victor_yugo

Nite victor!

re: #17 Killian Bundy

Poor darling. Maybe Bibi can make a I flew halfway around the world to aid and abet the ongoing war against Israel and all I got was this lousy coma T-shirt.

As noted Philosopher Chris Farley once said:
"I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it."
And so it goes with the universe.

Won my game today in a total rout and made $50 off the bet

A sequel or remake for The Last Starfighter

A remake for It

"please recycle"

re: #14 Sharmuta

men are just as capable of demanding gender equality as women are.

That's right. As of now, there is a disturbing lack of adequate female representation in my bedroom. I'm calling the ACLU.

///yeah, that'll work

re: #17 Killian Bundy

Ever hear of Tristan Anderson, 38, of Oakland?

/a protest too far

We've been joking about him for two days already!

re: #23 Zimriel

A sequel or remake for The Last Starfighter

A remake for It

"please recycle"

The Penultimate Starfighter?

re: #18 Zimriel

No no no no...that just ain't right. Maybe with some of the lower-quality, higher fat content ground beef, but I'm unwilling to put bleu or gorgonzola on anything 80% lean or more...

Does Ezra Levant have a father named Marvin?

I'm trying to make sense out of some emails.

re: #26 gmsc

The Penultimate Starfighter?

I prefer this Starfighter.

Watch to the end for a low pass.

re: #17 Killian Bundy

Ever hear of Tristan Anderson, 38, of Oakland?

/a protest too far

I've already got a Tristan Anderson protest on my calendar, but work responsibilities will probably keep me from attending.

re: #24 Slumbering Behemoth

You are bad! ;)

I hope that this is irony

Before Alcoa could build its smelter it had to defer to a government expert to scour the enclosed plant site and certify that no elves were on or under it. It was a delicate corporate situation, an Alcoa spokesman told me, because they had to pay hard cash to declare the site elf-free but, as he put it, “we couldn’t as a company be in a position of acknowledging the existence of hidden people.”

But hey, government rules are government rules the world over.

re: #30 zombie

That link ain't workin' right. Indybay auto-redirects any links from LGF. Ugh.

re: #23 Zimriel

A sequel would be neat. Considering the original movie, I hated the main character. "Take me home", "I will stay", "Take me home", etc...

Other then that it was pretty good. Definitetly thought that the "Death Blossom" was cool.

/actually read that referenced in a recent novel as a tactic for a space fighter.

re: #24 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm calling the ACLU.

I'd call NOW, but I'd rather tolerate the current injustice than risk having one of them respond.
///

Has anything been posted here about Obama's latest Justice Department pick? Tony West, attorney to terrorist John Walker Lindh. This article just says what other papers have said - that it's smooth sailing for West's confirmation. Not a word about his previous client. Hotair talks about it as does the Canada Free Press.

This guy has to be blocked - it's only been 71/2 years from 9/11 and we have a terrorist defense attorney up for the JD. Unbelievable.

re: #34 BlueCanuck

A sequel would be neat. Considering the original movie, I hated the main character. "Take me home", "I will stay", "Take me home", etc...

Other then that it was pretty good. Definitetly thought that the "Death Blossom" was cool.

/actually read that referenced in a recent novel as a tactic for a space fighter.

"Sir! What do we do now?"

"We die."

re: #31 Sharmuta

I try. As long as I can make someone smile, and no one takes my goofery seriously, I'm happy.

re: #33 zombie

That link ain't workin' right. Indybay auto-redirects any links from LGF. Ugh.

Is LGF on their "paranoid" list?

re: #36 ladycatnip

Has anything been posted here about Obama's latest Justice Department pick? Tony West, attorney to terrorist John Walker Lindh. This article just says what other papers have said - that it's smooth sailing for West's confirmation. Not a word about his previous client. Hotair talks about it as does the Canada Free Press.

This guy has to be blocked - it's only been 71/2 years from 9/11 and we have a terrorist defense attorney up for the JD. Unbelievable.

I posted about that a couple of days ago; I think a couple of other people may have mentioned it, too...but I don't think there's been a thread about it.

West raised a lot of money for Obama and was deeply involved in his campaign in California. This looks to be payback.

Personally, I find it outrageous.

re: #33 zombie

That link ain't workin' right. Indybay auto-redirects any links from LGF. Ugh.

A work around to see Zombie's link:

Right click on link, select "Copy Link Location", and paste in addy area of a new window. Bam, you're there.

re: #32 razorbacker

I hope that this is irony

But hey, government rules are government rules the world over.

Here in Vegas, we discovered Elfis.

re: #17 Killian Bundy

Its been on liveleak for awhile.

re: #42 gmsc

Here in Vegas, we discovered Elfis.

Howdy in Vegas, I just moved back a few weeks ago. ;-)

#40 capitalist piglet

I posted about that a couple of days ago; I think a couple of other people may have mentioned it, too...but I don't think there's been a thread about it.

West raised a lot of money for Obama and was deeply involved in his campaign in California. This looks to be payback.

Personally, I find it outrageous.

Glad you and others have posted this - it seems there's got to be something we can do about this, since very few news sources are carrying this - I think the Baltimore Sun talked about it, but it should be on the news, front and center.

Nice sounding statement but it's not a real reach, is it?

re: #36 ladycatnip

Has anything been posted here about Obama's latest Justice Department pick? Tony West, attorney to terrorist John Walker Lindh.

It's disgusting is what it is. Work for twenty years in some DA's office? Forget it. But whore yourself out for notoriety, defending a truly evil client - and you that plum federal assignment is YOURS, baby!

Anything good and decent is just... bourgeois to this man.

I have no doubt that in reality the future will be vastly more surprising than anything I can imagine. Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.
- J.B.S. Haldane

re: #32 razorbacker

I hope that this is irony

But hey, government rules are government rules the world over.

They're just pandering to their customer base. If they told those folks to kick rocks, those folks would go to some other company to buy tinfoil hats.

re: #48 Salamantis

Good quote. Every time the scientists think they got something figured out and pinned down, the universe throws in a loophole.

Journey To The Edge of The Universe

A little cheesy, but also pretty cool.

By "this man" I meant Obama, but it applies to West and Lindh too of course.

I am too tired to type. In accordance with Hillel's mishnah upon the Iron Fist Rule and its associated gemara and Rashi's four volumes on the topic, I'm off to bed.

Good night lizards.

re: #44 sngnsgt

Howdy in Vegas, I just moved back a few weeks ago. ;-)

Welcome back to Vegas! It's still as strange as ever, now with less Siegfried & Roy (although you can watch their last performance together from last week on 20/20, and scrolling down to Siegfried & Roy: The Magic Returns).

re: #52 Zimriel

G'nite! Don't let the bleu cheese burgers bite!

I've been waiting for "The One" too pardon John Walker Lindh.

/S

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

They're just pandering to their customer base. If they told those folks to kick rocks, those folks would go to some other company to buy tinfoil hats.

Huldufólk

Guess it's true.

Weird.

re: #55 Dustyvet

Indeed.

The Brits are getting fed up...
Britain is fighting a war – and we are too soft on our enemies

The active involvement of radical British Muslims in the Afghan insurgency has led senior officers to claim that they are engaged in a "surreal mini-civil war" in Afghanistan. And yet, for all the compelling evidence that British-based Islamist radicals are actively participating in a jihad against Britain and its coalition allies, the Government, together with those who have opposed our involvement in the War on Terror from the start, seems determined to give the Islamist radicals the benefit of the doubt.

Even when incontrovertible proof is found that British Muslims are aiding and abetting the enemy in Afghanistan and elsewhere, the Government's instinct is to try to cover up their involvement, for fear of further inflaming Islamist sensitivities.

Twice in the past year I have been admonished by our military establishment for revealing details about the support British sympathisers are providing to the Afghan insurgency, whether it involves actually fighting alongside the Taliban or providing them with the means to kill and maim British personnel. Officials did not question the reports' veracity. On both occasions, I was told that it was simply not helpful to expose such details, as they might cause offence to the Muslim community, or encourage Islamist radicals to intimidate British soldiers returning from combat.

It's late. Charles and stinky are probably asleep. Keep you comments about this one clean.

#47 Zimriel

It's disgusting is what it is. Work for twenty years in some DA's office? Forget it. But whore yourself out for notoriety, defending a truly evil client - and you that plum federal assignment is YOURS, baby!

Anything good and decent is just... bourgeois to this man.

It's becoming more clear now why islamic countries were so thrilled when the O became prez. West also was a heavy contributor to the O's campaign - $65,000 is a nice down payment for a job in the JD.

re: #10 victor_yugo

There's a Lovecraftian quote that says something similar, but as only H. P. Lovecraft could put it. It says something like, "It's a good thing the human mind is limited the way it is. Otherwise, when we figured out the universe, we'd go insane."

Which is probably what happened to the Hybrids.

re: #55 Dustyvet

I've been waiting for "The One" too pardon John Walker Lindh.

/S

Adam Gadahn too, I'll wager.

The Total Perspective Votex derives its picture of the whole Universe on the principle of extrapolated matter analyses.

To explain--since every piece of matter in the Universe is in some way affected by every other piece of matter in the Universe, it is in theory possible to extrapolate the whole of creation--every sun, every planet, their orbits, their composition, and their economic and social history from, say, one small piece of fairy cake.

The man who invented the Total Perspective Vortex did so basically in order to annoy his wife.

Trin Tragula--for that was his name--was a dreamer, a thinker, a speculative philosopher or, as his wife would have it, an idiot.

And she would nag him incessantly about the utterly inordinate amount of time he spent staring out into space, or mulling over the mechanics of safety pins, or doing spectrographic analyses of pieces of fairy cake.

"Have some sense of proportion!" she would say, sometimes as often as thirty-eight times in a single day.

And so he built the Total Perspective Vortex--just to show her.

And into one end, he plugged the whole of reality as extrapolated from a piece of fairy cake, and into the other, he plugged his wife: so that when he turned it on she saw in one instant the whole infinity of creation and herself in relation to it.

To Trin Tragula's horror, the shock completely annihilated her brain, but to his satisfaction he realized that he had proved conclusively that if life is going to exist in a Universe of this size, then one thing it cannot afford to have is a sense of proportion.

re: #61 Macker

Adam Gadahn too, I'll wager.

Yup...That's a no win bet.

re: #55 Dustyvet

I've been waiting for "The One" too pardon John Walker Lindh.

/S

"The Zero" has certainly has made plenty of other people turn to Johnny Walker.

re: #12 Sharmuta

It's true. It can be explain with one word that covers the formation of stars and galaxies right down to life on planets: evolution. And it seems far too many have no idea what anyone using that word is talking about.

Can anyone explain how the observation of a solar eclipse could prove or disprove why Einsteins theory works?

This is a test.

re: #25 zombie

We've been joking about him for two days already!

That article says his girlfriend was in the country for a Taglit trip, no doubt financed by Israel. The donors really ought to know their money is going to beef up the ranks of violent "protestors."

Silverman said that she is very concerned about the possibility of infection and unexpected trauma to Anderson's brain and intends to stay with him while she waits for his parents to arrive from the U.S.

Oh, something tells me the brain wasn't hit.

re: #65 Bobibutu

Can anyone explain how the observation of a solar eclipse could prove or disprove why Einsteins theory works?

This is a test.

I can, but I'll recuse myself from this test, so as to keep it fair to others.

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Even if they can be scary, it is never wise to cower from a bully. They know fear when they see it, and will attack.

re: #62 Happy Fun Ball

Can anyone explain how the observation of a solar eclipse could prove or disprove why Einsteins theory works?
This is a test.

Especially you.

;-)

re: #67 gmsc

I can, but I'll recuse myself from this test, so as to keep it fair to others.

Oh hiding in the recuse bin again eh?...:)

re: #58 Killgore Trout

The Brits are getting fed up...
Britain is fighting a war – and we are too soft on our enemies

It's late. Charles and stinky are probably asleep. Keep you comments about this one clean.

Britain has codified so many laws that eliminate any method of working against this that unless they reverse those laws I see no hope for England. Their own Labour government also turns a blind eye to what will effectively mean the end of England within the next 100 years.

re: #65 Bobibutu

Can anyone explain how the observation of a solar eclipse could prove or disprove why Einsteins theory works?

This is a test.

It made the observation of the bending of light in a gravity well noticeable. Stars were visible that should not have been, unless gravity could bend light.

re: #67 gmsc

I can, but I'll recuse myself from this test, so as to keep it fair to others.

You are most grateous ...

re: #65 Bobibutu

It proves that gravity actually warps space. The light (which has no mass) from stars which can be seen near the sun during an eclipse would still be effected by the gravity of the sun.

re: #65 Bobibutu

Can anyone explain how the observation of a solar eclipse could prove or disprove why Einsteins theory works?

This is a test.

Sure. Easy. The mass of the sun was predicted by Einstein to bend the space around it, so that stars normally occluded by the sun would be visible "behind" it because the light from those stars would be bent back toward us by the sun-mass's distortion of space. But this would only be visible if the glare of the sun was blocked. Hence, the eclipse of 1919 was the perfect time to observe the precise position of stars currently near the sun's location in the sky, and -- voila -- their light bent exactly as Einstein had predicted in his theory of relativity.

re: #72 Syrah

It made the observation of the bending of light in a gravity well noticeable. Stars were visible that should not have been, unless gravity could bend light.

Almost - but how? They were still there if we could have seen them.

re: #71 Gus 802

I find it a little odd that the Luton protests have caused such a stir. There wasn't any real outrage after 7/7, British Muslims rioted in the streets over the last Gaza invasion. Maybe this is just the cumulative effect.

re: #51 Sharmuta

I will save that one for later, when things slow down enough in both areas.

re: #69 Bobibutu

Can anyone explain how the observation of a solar eclipse could prove or disprove why Einsteins theory works?
This is a test.

God did it and anyone who tells you otherwise is a heretic. ///

re: #75 zombie

Much better than my attempt at #74.

re: #75 zombie

Sure. Easy. The mass of the sun was predicted by Einstein to bend the space around it, so that stars normally occluded by the sun would be visible "behind" it because the light from those stars would be bent back toward us by the sun-mass's distortion of space. But this would only be visible if the glare of the sun was blocked. Hence, the eclipse of 1919 was the perfect time to observe the precise position of stars currently near the sun's location in the sky, and -- voila -- their light bent exactly as Einstein had predicted in his theory of relativity.

Bamp! Wrong. Almost tho.

re: #80 Killgore Trout

Much better than my attempt at #74.

Yeah, but it took me too long to type mine, so several people got the correct answer before me, even if a little bit less complete.

re: #77 Killgore Trout

I find it a little odd that the Luton protests have caused such a stir. There wasn't any real outrage after 7/7, British Muslims rioted in the streets over the last Gaza invasion. Maybe this is just the cumulative effect.

I think it was because it was a direct protest in front of returning military unit. A direct insult against the Union Jack if you will and the men that fought for what is right. It could also be because of the signs that read, “Anglican Soldiers Butchers of Basra."

re: #76 Bobibutu

Almost - but how? They were still there if we could have seen them.

The stars were still there, just not where the visible light from them suggested they were.

Its not easy to describe, except to suggest that gravity acts in some ways like a well and that light can "fall" into it, or at least feel its attraction.

re: #65 Bobibutu

It was on Discovery the other week. Heavy mass of sun bends light of stars behind sun and is measurable (by a guy from Oregon no less). Can only be measured on a total eclipse, happened right at the end of WW1.

re: #81 Bobibutu

Bamp! Wrong. Almost tho.

Wll, it wasn't exactly about stars that were occluded, but which were near the edge of the sun's disk. Their apparent position changed in relation to other nearby stars, whose light was bent less because it did not pass as close to the sun's mass.

The occlusion part was true, but it's much harder to find the precise physical cirrcumstances to observe it. Hubble observed this gravitational lensing with deep-space galazxes.

galazxes = galaxies

re: #61 Macker

Adam Gadahn too, I'll wager.

Was it ever verified that the US Military turned Adam Pearlman into pink mist and fleshy paste in Pakistan a year or so ago?

Almost?

Damn. We are being tested. And I was winging it off of the top of my head.

re: #88 Truck Monkey

Not that I know of. Only notes from Jawa, but nothing on my side.

re: #86 zombie

And the stars positions were noted before the eclipse.

Did a quick read at NASA.

The difference between the stars observable by the sun and the difference then calculated with the moon in direct trajectory - the minute measurement therein proved the curve. Added gravity of the moon.

I am humbled by the wealth of knowledge the Lizard Army possesses. Sometimes I feel like a kid during the holidays who gets to eat at the grown up table for the first time.

re: #1 zombie

"He"? How about "she" for a change?

It's a quote. If Charles had used "she" in the Asimov quote, she wouldn't have known what she was talking about.

There ya go. She's all over the (mis)place.

re: #91 Gus 802

And the stars positions were noted before the eclipse.

Well of course. They were long known and charted. And during the eclipse, the star(s) whose light passed closest to the sun's mass had their apparent position altered the greatest -- proving that gravity affects massless light, hence proving that what gravity really is is the bending of space.

re: #81 Bobibutu

Bamp! Wrong. Almost tho.

Well, for one thing, the stars that were unusually visible were not "near" the sun, but behind it (from the perspective of Earth). If light only traveled in straight lines, and not affected by gravity, then they shouldn't be visible at all.

However, since general relativity stated that even light is affected by gravity, stars behind the sun were actually visible as the light was bent around it. This was due not so much to the glare, but to the increased effect of gravity of the sun and the moon being in line with the Earth.

re: #92 Bobibutu

The difference between the stars observable by the sun and the difference then calculated with the moon in direct trajectory - the minute measurement therein proved the curve. Added gravity of the moon.

Teacher, you're no better at using the English language to explain relativity than we students are! That was the most confusing answer of all.

Today in History, March 15th:

re: #95 zombie

Well of course. They were long known and charted. And during the eclipse, the star(s) whose light passed closest to the sun's mass had their apparent position altered the greatest -- proving that gravity affects massless light, hence proving that what gravity really is is the bending of space.

Right - now add the moon mass (which is in direct line) and subtract the difference - shazam!

Beware the Ides of March!

More pissed off Brits...
We must stop appeasing Islamist extremism

re: #93 Slumbering Behemoth

By the time I had read the question, the answers had been posted. I wouldn't have gotten it exactly either, but close.

re: #83 Gus 802

But haven't British moonbats done the same thing before? Progressive protesters here in America have been doing similar things for years.

re: #95 zombie

Lente gravitacional durante un eclipse de Sol

re: #99 Bobibutu

Right - now add the moon mass (which is in direct line) and subtract the difference - shazam!

Yes. But the moon mass was only a teeny tiny percentage of the calculations.

The disk of the moon in the sky occludes and transits stars all the time, and the relativistic bending of the stars' light by the moon's mass is almost undetectable -- especially by 1919 standards.

But yes, to be hyper-precise, they included ALL the mass that was "in the way," including the moon's tiny mass.

BTW, all the notes about GTOR are an inch deep and a mile wide...

But the Specific Theory of Relativity, we are money on that one...

re: #102 BlueCanuck

Hey, at least you had an answer in your head. All I got were boobie pictures and beer.

re: #103 Killgore Trout

But haven't British moonbats done the same thing before? Progressive protesters here in America have been doing similar things for years.

In England? I don't know. There haven't been any returning parades in the USA that I know of.

re: #104 Gus 802

Lente gravitacional durante un eclipse de Sol

[Video]

Nicely done animation!

re: #105 zombie

Yes. But the moon mass was only a teeny tiny percentage of the calculations.

The disk of the moon in the sky occludes and transits stars all the time, and the relativistic bending of the stars' light by the moon's mass is almost undetectable -- especially by 1919 standards.

But yes, to be hyper-precise, they included ALL the mass that was "in the way," including the moon's tiny mass.

It was the DIFFERENCE that cinched it. Minute it was.

Have you decided to tackle the Tao Te Ching yet, Killgore?

re: #109 zombie

Looked pretty cool. I was trying to figure out if it looked right graphically before I posted it. You never know with the internet.

Hey - its Einsteins birthday today anyway.

Well - yesterday.

Here's a good layman's look at the 1919 eclipse and relativity (full episode here), from about 5:08 to 8:41:

re: #113 Bobibutu

Hey - its Einsteins birthday today anyway.

Well - yesterday.

That's why I thought you were posting the relativity question!

I did a report on last year's (2008's) Pi Day/ Einstein's birthday.

re: #113 Bobibutu

I thought it was always Einsteins birthday time being relative and all that jazz

re: #113 Bobibutu

Hey - its Einsteins birthday today anyway.

Well - yesterday.

I was going to say. It's easy to remember Einstein's birthday, because it fall on Pi Day, and the Grey Matters Blogiversary!

re: #116 GOPManHatTanIte

I thought it was always Einsteins birthday time being relative and all that jazz

Not exactly. There is a "cone of Einstein's-birthdayhood" in our spacetime. The cone statically "exists" in a four-dimensional graph.

Every instant has its own cone.

re: #111 Sharmuta

Have you decided to tackle the Tao Te Ching yet, Killgore?

I'm thinking about it. It still scares me. I'm not sure how much I'll get out of it.

re: #118 zombie

physics=super cool

re: #119 Killgore Trout

That just surprises me- I would have thought you'd have read it before now. I think you'd like it. I'm more intimidated by Chuang Tsu.

Ah - updings all around - we were blessed with Einstein. Yeah Zom - that's why I brought it up.

well in another universe im sure i decided to stay awake a little longer but unfortunately this isnt that one.

good night all

re: #115 zombie

That's why I thought you were posting the relativity question!

I did a report on last year's (2008's) Pi Day/ Einstein's birthday.

Linkie?

Did anyone else watch John Stossel's Bailouts and Bull special on 20/20 Friday?

If you missed it, it's already up for free viewing on ABC News' 20/20 site.

It's also already on YouTube (although this version may disappear shortly):
Part 1: The Big, Bad Bailout
Part 2: The Road to Nowhere?
Part 3: 100 Years in Jail for Medical Marijuana
Part 4: Free Pre-K is a "Waste of Money"
Part 5: Bad Fences, Bad Neighbors
Part 6: America: Still the Land of Opportunity?

re: #118 zombie

Not exactly. There is a "cone of Einstein's-birthdayhood" in our spacetime. The cone statically "exists" in a four-dimensional graph.

Every instant has its own cone.

The mind boggles - as with trillion dollar bail outs.

re: #121 Sharmuta

I'm still very much a novice at zen.

I wonder when/if reuters will stop by after the last thread.

re: #127 Killgore Trout

I'm still very much a novice at zen.

We all are. Even the masters.

re: #129 Bobibutu

We all are. Even the masters.

Now that's deep.

re: #125 gmsc

Isn't that great? The guys is facing 100 years in jail for legally setting up a medical marijuana operation by state rules yet was prosecuted by the Feds. 100 years for setting up an illegal marijuana operation is too much as far as I'm concerned. Especially when you consider that murderers have only done 8 years or less.

re: #130 Sharmuta

Now that's deep.

Thank you.

re: #127 Killgore Trout

I wouldn't let the Tao intimidate you- it's very approachable. In all honesty, I really think you'd like it or I wouldn't have brought it up again. Give it a read.

re: #132 Bobibutu

I gave you a karmic point. How's that for deep back at ya? ;)

re: #131 Gus 802

Isn't that great? The guys is facing 100 years in jail for legally setting up a medical marijuana operation by state rules yet was prosecuted by the Feds. 100 years for setting up an illegal marijuana operation is too much as far as I'm concerned. Especially when you consider that murderers have only done 8 years or less.

Pitchforks and torches times - do we have the huevos?

re: #135 Bobibutu

Pitchforks and torches times - do we have the huevos?

We've got huevos and rancheros!

re: #134 Sharmuta

I gave you a karmic point. How's that for deep back at ya? ;)

Touche. ;-)

re: #88 Truck Monkey

Was it ever verified that the US Military turned Adam Pearlman into pink mist and fleshy paste in Pakistan a year or so ago?

If it was verified, there would've been a very special hard-hitting ripped-from-the-headlines Law & Order where the Airman controlling the Predator Drone would've been put on trial for killing another US citicizen...

re: #136 Gus 802

We've got huevos and rancheros!

Then let's git it on ... talks cheap.

re: #139 Bobibutu

Then let's git it on ... talks cheap.

OK

Aqui esta tu huevos rancheros.

Mas agua?

//

re: #138 Fenway_Nation

Well with the way the curret administration is going, I wouldn't put it past them. Are they still looking into investigating the previous administration for war crimes?

re: #125 gmsc

You ever watch Stossel on ReasonTV?

re: #141 BlueCanuck

That's Sen. Leahy's pet project- yet Hussein Dolt and his cabinet don't seem in any hurry to dissuade him.

Part of me hopes that this does get some traction- that way, God willing, we can bring Hussein Dolt, Pelousy and Harry Reid up on charges of fraud, theft and embezzelment come 2012.

re: #142 Gus 802

You ever watch Stossel on ReasonTV?

Not on ReasonTV, no. The only place I've ever seen him is on his 20/20 appearances, and his specials.

re: #28 zombie

Does Ezra Levant have a father named Marvin?

I'm trying to make sense out of some emails.

Yes, Marvin Levant, M.D. is indeed Ezra's father. Here's a link.

re: #133 Sharmuta

I'll brush the cat hair off my copy and put it on the nightstand.

re: #140 Gus 802

OK

Aqui esta tu huevos rancheros.

Mas agua?

//

I'm 67 and have had a full life ... maybe a place to start is with the "Tea Party" and see where it goes from there.

However I am riled enough to almost go postal - almost - not yet.

re: #146 Killgore Trout

Right on.

re: #143 Fenway_Nation

Part of me hopes that this does get some traction- that way, God willing, we can bring Hussein Dolt, Pelousy and Harry Reid up on charges of fraud, theft and embezzelment come 2012.

I'm doing my part to turn Harry Reid into a private citizen next year!

re: #149 gmsc

That's a noble cause.

re: #144 gmsc

Here's the main interview.

John Stossel: The Reason.tv interview (Part 1 of 2)

John Stossel: The Reason.tv interview (Part 2 of 2)

re: #149 gmsc

I'm doing my part to turn Harry Reid into a private citizen next year!

You in NV? How can we help?

re: #101 Killgore Trout

More pissed off Brits...
We must stop appeasing Islamist extremism

A word about the soldiers

From Rachel Lucas' site...

But I really don’t get foreigners’ obsession with this guy, or with America. They bitch about how we think too much of our own importance, but it’s like the nerds in high school bitching about the popular kids while writing the popular kids’ names all over their notebooks with big hearts around them. It’s a little creepy.

It surprised me when I started looking for foreign sites that were in English (at least as spoken by 'Murricans) how much of the content was about America, or Americans, or even American TV (fer goodness sakes American TV? If the world has a serious beef with America it should be about TV).

But, realistically, I guess you'd have to expect the foreign sites that focus on foreign themes would not be in English.

re: #152 Bobibutu

You in NV? How can we help?

Move to Nevada and register to vote before next year's deadline!

re: #147 Bobibutu

I'm 67 and have had a full life ... maybe a place to start is with the "Tea Party" and see where it goes from there.

However I am riled enough to almost go postal - almost - not yet.

It usually hits me on the weekday mornings. The main issue is finances and taxes. I'm 48 and frankly don't think I will ever be able to retire and if I did it would be after paying 10000s into a social security program that would land me in Section 8 housing so to speak. What a great future to look forward to no?

re: #154 razorbacker

From Rachel Lucas' site...

It surprised me when I started looking for foreign sites that were in English (at least as spoken by 'Murricans) how much of the content was about America, or Americans, or even American TV (fer goodness sakes American TV? If the world has a serious beef with America it should be about TV).

But, realistically, I guess you'd have to expect the foreign sites that focus on foreign themes would not be in English.

We wake up around 30.

re: #155 gmsc

Move to Nevada and register to vote before next year's deadline!

And that is?

Seriously - CA tax and all ... it's an option I'm looking at.

re: #65 Bobibutu

Can anyone explain how the observation of a solar eclipse could prove or disprove why Einsteins theory works?

This is a test.

That's pretty easy. During an eclipse, the Sun, blocked as it is by the Moon can be seen to occult (i.e. pass in front of) distant stars. With the position of the stars being extremely well known, the exact time of the occultation can be predicted with a very high degree of precision.

One of the predictions made by relativity theory is that a ray of light will be deflected by a strong gravitational field. Hence a ray of light from that distant star, being occulted by the Sun, will be deflected, and alter the observed time of the occultation by a predictable amount.

IIRC, there was an expedition made to the South Atlantic ocean early in the 20th Century to observe such an occultation, and the effect predicted by relativity theory was duly observed.

re: #155 gmsc

Move to Nevada and register to vote before next year's deadline!

I was thinking of somewhere a little further north along I-15.

re: #156 Gus 802

It usually hits me on the weekday mornings. The main issue is finances and taxes. I'm 48 and frankly don't think I will ever be able to retire and if I did it would be after paying 10000s into a social security program that would land me in Section 8 housing so to speak. What a great future to look forward to no?

From a Glenn Reynolds' link

The report details how the collapse has left the majority of those around retirement-age almost completely reliant on entitlements. The net worth of median households in the 45 to 54 age bracket has dropped by more than 45 percent since 2004, to just over $80,000. Households headed by those aged 55 to 64, meanwhile, have lost 38 percent of net wealth.

The result is that many baby boomers will only have entitlements to rely on in their retirement.”

I'm making every effort to stay on good terms with my child, since I may well want have to move in with her.

re: #156 Gus 802

It usually hits me on the weekday mornings. The main issue is finances and taxes. I'm 48 and frankly don't think I will ever be able to retire and if I did it would be after paying 10000s into a social security program that would land me in Section 8 housing so to speak. What a great future to look forward to no?

Forget about retiring - pick a narrow sector you love and then hit it - semi retire and have fun.

re: #155 gmsc

Move to Nevada and register to vote before next year's deadline!

Harry Reid Non Gradus Anus Rodentum!

re: #159 Alberta Oil Peon

And the moons gravity?

re: #158 Bobibutu

And that is?

Seriously - CA tax and all ... it's an option I'm looking at.

Usually in Nevada, it's about 1 month before voting, so it would be early October 2010 for the next election.

Oh, and for anyone who does move to Nevada, remember this important rule!

re: #161 razorbacker

I'm making every effort to stay on good terms with my child, since I may well want have to move in with her.

That's a good fallback position. I'm childless and single so I can't really plan on that. It is a good option and is really a tradition that many people follow to have the parents live with the children.

re: #162 Bobibutu

Forget about retiring - pick a narrow sector you love and then hit it - semi retire and have fun.

Yeah, I'm looking at a drop dead retirement plan. Actually, I have a pretty good sector (involving construction and building design) but the current economy and real estate is in the tank for a long time to come. I could make well over 80K if I worked full time but the boom times are gone.

With the current trend towards leftism I don't see this changing anytime soon. I supported the idea of "drill here, and drill now" and still do but have seen those attempts reversed. One of my theories is to "build here and build now" but given the prior outlook that's not in the cards at all.

re: #164 Bobibutu

And the moons gravity?

re: #165 gmsc

Usually in Nevada, it's about 1 month before voting, so it would be early October 2010 for the next election.

Oh, and for anyone who does move to Nevada, remember this important rule!

Nevedah. Think New Jersey.

Ore-gone.

re: #156 Gus 802

Or - take out a life policy with an ethical company that will guarantee a tax free return that you can not outlive - tax free income for life.

Hint - there is only one company (LSW) that will guarantee this. (And not one of their advertised products that will do this)

Life insurance loans (paid to you) are not considered "income" ... hello

re: #164 Bobibutu

And the moons gravity?

I doubt it would be sufficiently strong to make a measurable difference to the path of the light rays in question.

There's also the matter of parallax. Say for the sake of argument, that the relativistic bending of starlight by the Sun amounts to 0.1 second of arc. A tiny angle indeed. But after traveling onward some 93 million miles to the vicinity of Earth, that 0.1 second of arc might represent many thousand miles of displacement of the light ray from the point it would reach, had it been undeflected.

The moon is many, many times less massive than the Sun, so the relativistic deflection of a light ray would be commensurately less, and it also many, many times closer to Earth, so the displacement of a light ray deflected by the Moon's gravity well would be minute indeed.

re: #170 Bobibutu

I know. I heard a lot about life insurance policies in the late 80s. Another thing I can do is incorporate to further lessen my tax burden.

re: #168 gmsc

I had a flat top a slide rule and a pocket protector in HS.

Yep - I got my ass beat up.

re: #166 Gus 802

Sorry, I wasn't ignoring you. I'd stepped away to read an article on Iceland's economic problems. Oddly enough, so far, they don't seem to be Bush's fault. But I haven't finished it yet, so prolly ought not say anything yet.

Yeah, the default position for past generations did lend itself to multigenerational living arangements. That's always been our family's arrangement, anyway.

Kinda nice when kids have their grandparents around, too. Old farts seem to bond with little rascals pretty well.

re: #174 razorbacker

Sorry, I wasn't ignoring you. I'd stepped away to read an article on Iceland's economic problems. Oddly enough, so far, they don't seem to be Bush's fault. But I haven't finished it yet, so prolly ought not say anything yet.

Yeah, the default position for past generations did lend itself to multigenerational living arangements. That's always been our family's arrangement, anyway.

Kinda nice when kids have their grandparents around, too. Old farts seem to bond with little rascals pretty well.

Have you read this Guardian story on Iceland's credit crunch? It's one of the best I've found, even though it's 6 months old.

re: #170 Bobibutu

Up here one financial company, that I do some part time work with, calls them Insured Retirement Plans. Only problem is that as an investment it isn't the best one you could get. Having that little extra protection of permanent insurance though helps.

re: #174 razorbacker

No problem. Yeah, the default position was to blame Bush for everything so it's a surprise to see that finally wane. I'm sure there's someone at Indybay finding a connection as we speak.

Traditional family structures are the safest for the elderly. Unfortunately the change towards a nuclear family has eroded that safety net. I know a couple of Vietnamese people were that traditional structure is still intact and am surprised at the solid foundation of that principle.

re: #175 gmsc

I saw that a couple of months ago. Vanity Fair has an article up on it, too.

Interesting.

Not to change the topic, but Glenn has linked to a story about South African men raping lesbians to 'cure' them.

Yeah, that oughta work. Say, how much gasoline to you reckon it'll take to put out that fire?

re: #172 Gus 802

I know. I heard a lot about life insurance policies in the late 80s. Another thing I can do is incorporate to further lessen my tax burden.

Life policies are for the most part BS - they blow up financially - create huge commissions for the agents.

It is possible to:

Never loose money

Never run out of money

Increase your income

and reduce you taxes at the same time

no commissions to the sharks ...

Why do you give your money to someone who gets a piece whether you loose or win?

Why don't you protect your downside?

re: #176 BlueCanuck

Up here one financial company, that I do some part time work with, calls them Insured Retirement Plans. Only problem is that as an investment it isn't the best one you could get. Having that little extra protection of permanent insurance though helps.

See my 179

re: #179 Bobibutu

I don't have any investments. I did learn one thing during this downturn. You need to have at least one years salary in savings.

re: #178 razorbacker

I guess if the rapes don't completely cure them of their lesbianism, the necklacing will.

re: #178 razorbacker

I saw that a couple of months ago. Vanity Fair has an article up on it, too.

Interesting.

Not to change the topic, but Glenn has linked to a story about South African men raping lesbians to 'cure' them.

Yeah, that oughta work. Say, how much gasoline to you reckon it'll take to put out that fire?

Gee, we sure wouldn't want to change to different topics in an open thread, would we?
;)

In last night's open thread, there was much discussion about that South African rape story. One lizard currently living in Africa may be moving back to the US because of the stories like this that show up so much there.

re: #179 Bobibutu

The wife and I carry enough term life policies to pay off the house and provide a couple of years cushion when that dreaded day arrives.

Whole life, not so much.

re: #181 Gus 802

I don't have any investments. I did learn one thing during this downturn. You need to have at least one years salary in savings.

gmsc's money tips #18:

Set aside an emergency fund - a fund for those unexpected things that cost a lot to fix, such as medical emergencies, plumbing problems, or major auto repair.

The two standard percentages to set aside of your after tax (or pre-tax, if you can swing it) income that you hear most often are 5% or 10%. If you've worked your way out of debt, do 10%. If you're still working your way out of debt, do 5%.

How much should you keep in there? Most references suggest 3 to 6 months worth of expenses, with some saying as many as 8 months. However, these amounts, especially when you're just starting an emergency fund, can seem overwhelming as goals.

To overcome this, just begin with a goal of a smaller amount, from $250 to $500 in your emergency fund. Once you've done that, shoot for $1,000. From there, work up to 3 months' worth of expenses, followed by 6 month's worth, and finally to 8 month's worth.

How do you know how much your expenditures are each month? Re-read money tips #11 and #12!

I haven't read every post for an obvious reason but isn't the Asimov quote very similar to J.B.S Haldane who said something like, " The universe is not only stranger than you imagine, it is stranger than you can imagine"?

re: #176 BlueCanuck

Up here one financial company, that I do some part time work with, calls them Insured Retirement Plans. Only problem is that as an investment it isn't the best one you could get. Having that little extra protection of permanent insurance though helps.

If they are giving you the "choice" of funds you can invest in it is BS - you will loose in the long run - you must invest in indexed funds but they won't give you that option.

Go figure.

re: #181 Gus 802

I don't have any investments. I did learn one thing during this downturn. You need to have at least one years salary in savings.

Very wise ... cash is king.

re: #185 gmsc

I remember talking with my grandfather about savings, and I asked, "How much?"

His answer, "God himself only asks for 10%. It should work for you, too."

So I did.

re: #185 gmsc

Thanks. I like the incremental idea. Work up to it.

re: #165 gmsc

Usually in Nevada, it's about 1 month before voting, so it would be early October 2010 for the next election.

Oh, and for anyone who does move to Nevada, remember this important rule!

Thx

re: #188 Bobibutu

Very wise ... cash is king.

'Til Hussein Dolt and Tiny Tim fire up the printing presses.

re: #188 Bobibutu

Very wise ... cash is king.

Yep. Especially under socialist rule. ;)

re: #185 gmsc

In the mid-seventies there was some clown who urged everyone (during a recession) to put six months income into an insuuured savings account. Might be before your time but it was funny because everyone was asking, " where do I get six months income "?. Your advice is much more practicable.

re: #187 Bobibutu

Might have to check my policies. I do have one split into four areas. One being a money fund. Up here we have what's called a Universal Life policy. Don't know what they are called in the states.

re: #172 Gus 802

I know. I heard a lot about life insurance policies in the late 80s. Another thing I can do is incorporate to further lessen my tax burden.

They are a scam! And I don't care which co it is! The math does not work.

re: #196 Bobibutu

They are a scam! And I don't care which co it is! The math does not work.

Ah, OK. I misunderstood. That was my take on life insurance policies as investments.

Iranian president declares his country a space and nuclear power

Prove It, You Little A**hole!

re: #196 Bobibutu

They are a scam! And I don't care which co it is! The math does not work.

The concept of betting on your life and only getting paid off if you die does seem to be somewhat...disconcerting...does it not?

re: #189 razorbacker

I remember talking with my grandfather about savings, and I asked, "How much?"

His answer, "God himself only asks for 10%. It should work for you, too."

So I did.

Yep! Great Advice!

For as long as I've been keeping track of my finances, I've been setting aside 10% to save/invest, and 5% for my emergency fund.

My favorite book on handling money is old enough to public domain, and freely available on web now: The Richest Man in Babylon

re: #191 Bobibutu

Thx

You're welcome.

re: #196 Bobibutu

They are a scam! And I don't care which co it is! The math does not work.

Exactly - here's a good blog post that covers the flaws of life insurance loans/equity loans at the end.

re: #184 razorbacker

The wife and I carry enough term life policies to pay off the house and provide a couple of years cushion when that dreaded day arrives.

Whole life, not so much.

Good on ya - keep it on. Protect your family with the lowest cost term - then depending on your age and your ambitions - find someone who has your interest truly at heart - send me their proposal for a second opinion.

I see that we've been graced with a visit by Mr. Biden to our little corner of heaven.

in which he talks about how he thinks folks have confidence in the Obama administration’s ability to deal with the financial crisis, and that he thinks recent gains in the stock market are the result of “the Obama factor.”

I'll sleep much easier tonight.

re: #202 gmsc

So, what if one were to buy 2000 shares of GM stock?

re: #199 razorbacker

The concept of betting on your life and only getting paid off if you die does seem to be somewhat...disconcerting...does it not?

Yes - and there are alternatives!

re: #204 razorbacker

I see that we've been graced with a visit by Mr. Biden to our little corner of heaven.

I'll sleep much easier tonight.

The current administration uses a transparent formula to find the cause of stock market movements:

Up=An 0bama miracle!
Down=Pailed Folicies, whatever, blah, blah, blah

re: #207 gmsc

Right.

DOW goes up = Obama "Factor"
DOW goes down = Bush "Factor"

re: #195 BlueCanuck

Might have to check my policies. I do have one split into four areas. One being a money fund. Up here we have what's called a Universal Life policy. Don't know what they are called in the states.

Most ULPs are a rip off - in the long run.

re: #205 Gus 802

So, what if one were to buy 2000 shares of GM stock?

I didn't buy GM, since they have more debt than assets.

But I did buy Ford, since they have more assests than debt.

Who knows? But 1K shares of Ford for $2K seemed like a gamble that might pay off.

re: #205 Gus 802

So, what if one were to buy 2000 shares of GM stock?

As with any investment, I'd do serious research on the company first (and not just technical data, but fundamentals, too.)

re: #197 Gus 802

Ah, OK. I misunderstood. That was my take on life insurance policies as investments.

Most are - there are a few that are the good guys - damn few.

Gotta do the math.

re: #209 Bobibutu

How so? What makes them such a bad proposition then?

re: #200 gmsc

Thank you for pointing me to this download. My nineteen year old spendthrift son is next. :-)

Good evening to all!

re: #210 razorbacker

I didn't buy GM, since they have more debt than assets.

But I did buy Ford, since they have more assests than debt.

Who knows? But 1K shares of Ford for $2K seemed like a gamble that might pay off.

Good choice. Ford is perhaps the most innovative of the auto companies. Something as simple as the Focus illustrates this as well as their hybrid line. That translates into future returns.

Says here in this New Republic blog post that liberal annoyances activist organizations MoveOn.org and ACORN are put out with Democratic members of Congress who voted against the recent housing bill, including Arkansas’ own Marion Berry — and they’re seeking out Arkansans who’ve lost their homes to foreclosure to appear in ads asking Berry why he voted against.

Gosh, both MoveOn.org AND ACORN are upset with Marion Berry? I’ll bet his constituents are going to find that to be quite compelling, because those are two groups you just don’t cross in the First District of Arkansas. Yes, this is just a blow he’ll never recover from.

That's from The Arkansas Project, and I guess you'd have to be a resident of the First District to know just how much sarcasm is in that last paragraph.

re: #210 razorbacker

I didn't buy GM, since they have more debt than assets.

But I did buy Ford, since they have more assests than debt.

Who knows? But 1K shares of Ford for $2K seemed like a gamble that might pay off.

How old are you and why are you in the market?

re: #213 BlueCanuck

How so? What makes them such a bad proposition then?

Do the frikkin' math look down the column - the outcome is impossible.

re: #217 Bobibutu

I'm 54, and I'm in the market because I expect to live to be quite a bit older than 54.

Admittedly, right now I'm less than a third invested in stocks. The rest is in CDs.

I just wish that the CDs paid a rate that was higher than inflation.

re: #219 razorbacker

I'm 54, and I'm in the market because I expect to live to be quite a bit older than 54.

Admittedly, right now I'm less than a third invested in stocks. The rest is in CDs.

I just wish that the CDs paid a rate that was higher than inflation.

There are better options with no down side risk.

If you could have an option with no down side risk that would give you a tax free income for life - would you take it?

My wife and I are not what folks think of when they think of Americans.

We buy everything on credit, but carry no credit card debt. Paid every month.

We bought our property with the idea that the payments could easily be met with either my wife's income, or mine. In case one of us lost our job or got sick of working.

We saved and bought all our vehicles (boat, 4 wheeler, and all three vehicles) with cash.

We eat out maybe 4 times a year.

Cell phones are pay-as-you-go. No contracts.

Normally, we'd be called cheap. I've a sneaking suspicion that pretty soon, we'll be called financial wizards.

re: #220 Bobibutu

That would depend on the income, wouldn't it?

I apologize to all - I am on an vicious rant to porkulus et al ... it does not have to be this way. We can over come. There are tools to do it with available to us now.

Wait - no fruitcup tonight?!?

re: #222 razorbacker

That would depend on the income, wouldn't it?

Can't make silk purses out of sow's ears.

re: #224 gmsc

Wait - no fruitcup tonight?!?

I am waiting patiently too.

Calls more than double to stop smoking line

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) -- A 56-cent-a-pack increase in cigarette taxes that took effect this month has flooded the state's smoking cessation helpline with calls from smokers who want to quit and nearly depleted the money the Health Department has for the program, officials said Wednesday.

Health Department Deputy Director Mary Leath told a legislative panel Wednesday that the agency needs another $1 million to pay for a contract to Free and Clear, Inc., a California company that operates the help line. The hike in the tobacco tax went into effect on March 1.

What? No free lunch today, either?

re: #225 Bobibutu

Can't make silk purses out of sow's ears.

If you've got an idea, the nic is blue.

re: #224 gmsc

Wait - no fruitcup tonight?!?

Poor Littleoldlady, let her catch up on some sleep on a Sunday morning! ;)

Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.

Has lol gone AWOL? Fruitcup is over...>

Help yourself:)

Well since she's late, and location unknown...

Good morning/afternoon/evening EVERYONE! Fruitcup is on the buffet.

--->

re: #227 razorbacker

Calls more than double to stop smoking line

What? No free lunch today, either?

I love it when government outsmarts themselves!

re: #224 gmsc

Wait - no fruitcup tonight?!?

It's a first for me what. What do we do now?

re: #229 TheMatrix31

Poor Littleoldlady, let her catch up on some sleep on a Sunday morning! ;)

I just hope she's OK!

{ { { { littleoldlady } } }

re: #231 BlueCanuck

Well since she's late, and location unknown...

Good morning/afternoon/evening EVERYONE! Fruitcup is on the buffet.

--->

Sorry you you Blue. Beat you by 8 seconds:)
GMTA

re: #231 BlueCanuck

Well since she's late, and location unknown...

Good morning/afternoon/evening EVERYONE! Fruitcup is on the buffet.

--->

Untrademarked fruitcup? I don't know, but I guess I'll try it.

re: #235 Erik The Red

LOL, yeah. I fell down on the job myself actually. Dealing with a small situation here at work. :p

re: #230 Erik The Red

You're daft! It's not the same thing.

re: #236 gmsc

*slipping chilled vodka in fruitcup punchbowl*

re: #237 BlueCanuck

LOL, yeah. I fell down on the job myself actually. Dealing with a small situation here at work. :p

I just logged on otherwise I would have been quicker.

I'm going to need some caffeinated fruitcup these next few days, what with finals and stuff coming full steam ahead this week.

*sigh*

Fantastic. I was hoping to find fruitcup.

re: #238 BatGuano

You're daft! It's not the same thing.

lol has given a few of us the recipe.

Ya call this fruitcup? This ain't fruitcup, this is fruit salad.

And darned few cherries in it, too!

I'm waiting for that good Aussie fruitcup.

re: #236 gmsc

I can't use the trademark. I am not a littleoldlady and that would be copyright infringement. Sorry folks just have to put up with Erik and Blue fruitcup this morning. I promise no cans were used in the processing and creation of it on my end.

Sniff, sniff...
Generic fruitcup, it's just not the same as LOL brand fruitcup. The vodka is yummy, though.

re: #221 razorbacker

My wife and I are not what folks think of when they think of Americans.

We buy everything on credit, but carry no credit card debt. Paid every month.

We bought our property with the idea that the payments could easily be met with either my wife's income, or mine. In case one of us lost our job or got sick of working.

We saved and bought all our vehicles (boat, 4 wheeler, and all three vehicles) with cash.

We eat out maybe 4 times a year.

Cell phones are pay-as-you-go. No contracts.

Normally, we'd be called cheap. I've a sneaking suspicion that pretty soon, we'll be called financial wizards.

Mab'ey we'll pay your way to the Great Norcal LGF meet up in NorCal this spring.
/

re: #245 BlueCanuck

I promise no cans were used in the processing and creation of it on my end.

As I always say, "I don't mind canned dolphin, but I like to make sure it's tuna-safe!"

re: #245 BlueCanuck

I can't use the trademark. I am not a littleoldlady and that would be copyright infringement. Sorry folks just have to put up with Erik and Blue fruitcup this morning. I promise no cans were used in the processing and creation of it on my end.

You're right. It's not quite the same.

littleoldlady, where are you? Are you OK?

You're missed by many here.

:(

I'm skeptical of this unauthorized fruitcup. It just doesn't seem right. Ya, know?

re: #245 BlueCanuck

I can't use the trademark. I am not a littleoldlady and that would be copyright infringement. Sorry folks just have to put up with Erik and Blue fruitcup this morning. I promise no cans were used in the processing and creation of it on my end.

Mine was made with the freshest S African fruit. Some exotic fruit in it too. Mango.papaw,litchi, prickly pear and some granadilla

re: #219 razorbacker

I'm 54, and I'm in the market because I expect to live to be quite a bit older than 54.

Admittedly, right now I'm less than a third invested in stocks. The rest is in CDs.

I just wish that the CDs paid a rate that was higher than inflation.

CD rate is still a whole lot better than this 50% return on investment we're seeing today!

re: #244 razorbacker

B*tch, b*tch, b*tch. Just consider yourself lucky that some was actually served. Next whiner gets the clue bat. Or something worse.

This isn't tainted Chinese fruitcup with a pirated version of LoL's copyright, is it?

I see that the DNC has pondered, and evaluated, and thought it all the way through and come up that the definative answer to Rush Limbaugh.

“America Didn’t Vote for a Rush to Failure”

The mind wobbles.

*Limbaugh must be laughing his a** off. He'll have to speak extra loud just so the new guys in back can hear.*

re: #252 Erik The Red

Mine was made with the freshest S African fruit. Some exotic fruit in it too. Mango.papaw,litchi, prickly pear and some granadilla

Sounds like you got the recipe from Putin.