AIG Financial Products Head Digs Che Guevara at Cuba-Themed Event

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Here we see the current head of AIG Financial Products and former vice chairman of Morgan Stanley, Gerry Pasciucco, at an event called “Fiesta Cuba,” wearing a Che Guevara T-shirt.

The photo comes from this page at Fairfield County Look, where we learn more about the fun-filled evening:

Family Centers took a trip back in time where the sound of salsa music filled the air, La Tropicana was the place to be and relaxation was a way of life.The sights, sounds and tastes of 1940s-era Havana filled the air on the evening of Friday, June 6 for Family Centers’ 2008 benefit - Fiesta Cuba. The event was held at the Belle Haven home Laurie and Peter Grauer.

Known to attract the likes of Frank Sinatra, Ava Gardner and Gary Cooper, Cuba was dubbed “America’s Playground” during the years following World War II. Laurie Grauer, along with her fellow co-chairs Patti Fast, Julie Graham and Nonie Sullivan, combined a touch of that glitz and glamour with the laid-back feel the Caribbean is known for to create a true paradise under the stars.

Before sitting down to an authentic Cuban feast, guests were treated to mojitos, other tropical drinks and hand-rolled cigars. Meanwhile, roulette, poker and other games of chance were played in the world-famous Riviera Casino. But the party really heated up once the sun went down, as a 13-piece orchestra played a mix of Latin and party tunes sure to keep the dance floor filled all night.The funds raised will benefit Family Centers’ 30 education and human service programs.

(Hat tip: Hot Air.)

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559 comments
1 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:35:49am

Methinks that Che would have lined this guy up against the wall with all the others.

2 pat  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:36:03am

Makes perfect sense.

3 pat  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:36:46am

This guy thinks the same way. Off with their heads.

4 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:36:48am

Any head of a financial institution that wears commie t-shirts should immediately lose their job.

5 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:37:33am

re: #1 Creeping Eruption

Methinks that Che would have lined this guy up against the wall with all the others.

I have to agree. These morons who think Che was cool need to read up on the real Che Guevera and what a sadistic, murderous asshole that he really was.

6 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:37:47am

That guy looks stupid.

7 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:37:50am

Is it just me,or do those shirts resemble a range target?

8 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:38:37am

Excellent. Warm up the gridiron!

9 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:38:40am
10 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:38:44am

Che t-shirt...50.00 pocket hanky, 2,500.00 sport coat.

Is that cognitive dissonance?

11 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:38:53am

re: #5 Honorary Yooper

I have to agree. These morons who think Che was cool need to read up on the real Che Guevera and what a sadistic, murderous asshole that he really was.

Assumes they can read or are willing to read. Hard to swallow things not spoon fed to you, you know.

12 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:38:54am

re: #6 Ojoe

Zactly!
Why would a filthy rich "Capitalist" revere Che?

13 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:39:17am

Just think, were this idjit's teenage days in Cuba, he could have had the chance to get a bullet in the back of his head from Che himself.

What an honor!

/

14 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:39:17am

Gringos............

15 Sifty  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:39:22am

My last, fragile shreds of sympathy for these pricks have just fluttered away in the wind of their own making.

Fuck um. - Mr. Fenster

16 Sunlight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:39:29am

re: #6 Ojoe

That guy looks stupid.

He thinks he's edgy and that his friends think he's cool. That's all he cares about.

17 rawmuse  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:39:35am

As for me, I love Cuba. The food, the music. I once loved it so much that I would have fought and died to rid it of Communists.

I once was hanging out with some Cuban musicians (Los Von Von) backstage, asked them how it was going, they said, "Better, Castro lets us keep some of our money"

Now, I ask you, is that starting to sound familiar?

If not, check back in about a year, maybe less.

18 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:39:36am

OK so NOW I am behind Smucky Chucky! Yeah I'm a hypocrite, but I'd like to screw this guy. Figuratively I mean.

19 HelloDare  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:39:36am

He was going to come as Desi Arnaz but somebody already took picked that costume.

20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:39:37am

re: #5 Honorary Yooper

But that movie...the motorcycle... he was helping people... he was fun to hang out with... but... but... but...

21 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:39:45am

Jefferson said this in 1802:


"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issues of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

22 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:39:53am

I am trying very, very hard not to say something [deleted]able and bannable.

23 pegcity  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:40:19am

i have a che t shirt and it says

"my ultimate goal as a revolutionary was to have my face plastered on the tshirts of rich white kids"

24 The Optimist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:40:21am

Bastards. Go to
Murder by Che to see how Che murdered hundreds by his own hand and thousands by his orders.

Thousands of Cubans have been oppressed and killed by followers of Che. It is an insult to the Cuban people to celebrate this bastard and what he has done to Cuba and the 50 years of repression he caused.

Bastards.

25 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:40:27am
Thee sights, sounds and tastes of 1940s-era Havana filled the air...

So this idiot is wearing a Che Guevara shirt at a party celebrating the era before Che and Fidel ruined the country!

26 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:40:34am

It is a funny pic but it is a 50's themed Cuban party so the shirt is kinda makes sense.

27 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:40:57am

re: #22 Zimriel
Good luck with that!

28 The Other Les  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:40:58am

Send him here.

[Link: che-mart.com...]

29 P. Aaron  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:41:04am

To play a memorial Day gig, I thought I would get a Marine Corps shirt for the event. I went to the local Army-Navy store and they had Che shirts all over the place. I asked: "What the hell is that doing in an Army-Navy store?!"

They said: "It's our best seller". I walked out. Went to the closet and got the old Marines shirt from last year.

Last year, I went in the Army-Navy store and Che was gone.

30 neocon hippie  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:41:06am

What a moron. In Che's Cuba a company like AIG couldn't even exist.

31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:41:19am

re: #17 rawmuse

The Buena Vista Social Club mesmerizes me.

32 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:41:47am

What a clueless asshole.

33 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:41:48am

Liberals = Look at me I'm an idiot and rich, FUCK AMERICA! I want to be popular like Obama! POS's

34 redc1c4  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:41:56am

what an absolute fool....

i'd post more, but The Stick is out there...... %-)

35 zombie  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:42:05am

They have a party celebrating pre-communist Cuba -- and the guy wears a Che shirt to it? Che, the guy who destroyed any remnant of pre-communist Cuba? What -- is this guy an idiot? Apparently so. The hypocrisy and head-exploding irony of his shirt is totally lost on this fool. It's the equivalent of wearing a Hitler shirt to a Holocaust Remembrance Day event.

36 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:42:13am

Isn't it entirely possible that this party could have had Cuban-Americans at it whose relatives were murdered by Che?

37 pegcity  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:42:15am

is it me or do the left love every dictator except for Hitler, and who knows what they really think of him?

38 SteveC  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:42:21am

re: #16 Sunlight

He thinks he's edgy and that his friends think he's cool. That's all he cares about.

That's what I think whenever I see someone on a talk show wearing wild makeup, a push up bra that puts her boobies above her eyes, or teased hair. Some idiot said "Girlfriend, you look GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!"

Sheeesh!

39 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:42:51am

These murderer-worshippers took advantage of Capitalism & government mandates to sell bad products, and laughed all the way to the banks, and to your wallet.

Why should I be the lender/giver of last resort to people who want Western civilization dead & gone, after having exploited it?

To hell with cheating bastards. Let them fail & fall on their asses without our help.

40 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:43:11am
41 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:43:18am

re: #37 pegcity

is it me or do the left love every dictator except for Hitler?

Coming soon to a shirt near you.

42 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:43:28am

Shouldn't he be holding a hand gun and a Havana cigar?

43 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:43:31am

This is the guy that the gov't put in as CEO and that the 0 praised. Similar mindsets.

44 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:43:43am

Financial executives in commie t-shirts.... that's like a 5 star chef eating at McDonalds.

45 zombie  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:43:47am

re: #25 Ringo the Gringo

So this idiot is wearing a Che Guevara shirt at a party celebrating the era before Che and Fidel ruined the country!

My sentiments exactly!

46 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:43:50am
47 SteveC  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:44:18am

re: #36 EmmmieG

Isn't it entirely possible that this party could have had Cuban-Americans at it whose relatives were murdered by Che?

No. They made the mistake of going to such events way back when, learned their lesson, and they are somewhere else.

48 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:44:27am

re: #33 'Nam Grunt

Liberals = Look at me I'm an idiot and rich, FUCK AMERICA! I want to be popular like Obama! POS's

Well said, {'Nam}

49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:44:29am

re: #41 Creeping Eruption

Saw a t-shirt once with a picture of Hitler...said, "But, what about all the good things Hitler did."

He probably has that one too.

50 pegcity  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:44:34am

re: #41 Creeping Eruption

i saw some twit at my old job with a red star purse,

i was next to my Vietnamese friend who's family was forced to flee after the south fell.

they had to live in a refugee camp for 5 years.

he didn't think the purse was very cool.

51 zombie  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:44:53am

re: #26 Killgore Trout

It is a funny pic but it is a 50's themed Cuban party so the shirt is kinda makes sense.

No, it does not make sense. It makes the opposite of sense. The party commemorates and celebrates everything about Cuba that Che loathed, and that Che destroyed.

52 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:44:55am

re: #10 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Che t-shirt...50.00 pocket hanky, 2,500.00 sport coat.

Is that cognitive dissonance?

* * * *
No, Che and Fidel believe in appropriating other peoples' money, and things. How else do communists live like kings? They're the ultimate taxers, 100%, and they live off the work of others.

53 KingKenrod  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:45:18am

Maybe he was joking? I can't think of anything more ironic than a Che t-shirt in a group of ultra-wealthy gringos pretending to party in pre-Castro Cuba.

54 Dave the.....  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:45:28am

You'd be surprised how many smart people in business, in higher level jobs, making lots of money, really are ignorant about current events. They may now a lot about running financial services, but Che? He's some cool guy on a T-shirt.

I saw Che at my local Army-Navy surplus store. But all the rightwing pro-gun stuff there made up for it.

55 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:45:29am

Let's hope not that 50 years from now, some leader in the collective will be at a "Remembering the U.S.A". party wearing an "0" shirt....'cause, like, "The One", like, spread the wealth...and now we're all poor..........

56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:45:32am

re: #52 alegrias

nice.

57 The Other Les  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:45:42am

re: #37 pegcity

is it me or do the left love every dictator except for Hitler, and who knows what they really think of him?

Hitler was a member of the socialist family that they don't like to talk about.

[Link: constitutionalistnc.tripod.com...]

58 jcm  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:45:48am

If the market were allowed to work.

AIG would be in Chapter 11.

Commie ass kissing CEO's would be out of a job with no golden parachute.

And we wouldn't be paying out of our pocket for the socialization of our economy.

59 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:45:48am
The real problem at this moment of our history is that God is disappearing from the human horizon, and, with the dimming of the light which comes from God, humanity is losing its bearings, with increasingly evident destructive effects.

— Pope Benedict.

The guy in the photo looks lost ...

60 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:45:57am

re: #37 pegcity

is it me or do the left love every dictator except for Hitler, and who knows what they really think of him?

Well Hitler made the mistake of attacking their Darling Stalin and Mother Russia after all.

61 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:46:11am

re: #50 pegcity

i saw some twit at my old job with a red star purse,

i was next to my Vietnamese friend who's family was forced to flee after the south fell.

they had to live in a refugee camp for 5 years.

he didn't think the purse was very cool.

But . . .but the star was so pretty. Someone on access hollywood had it.

62 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:46:11am

re: #46 taxfreekiller

[Link:

63 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:46:24am

Memo to Gerry Pasciucco:

Gerry, in case you didn't know, the man whose face adorns your precious little shirt is Che Guevara. He was a murderous bastard who slaughtered women and children. He was an unrepentant thug whose death made the world just a wee bit better. No wait. A whole lot better.

You're party theme is of a Cuba that no longer exists, and hasn't since Che's pal Castro took over and utterly destroyed it. No mojitos, no fancy Cuban feast, no rolled cigars, no 13 piece band.

Just debauchery, destruction, and debasement.

Get a clue, you pompous twit.

64 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:47:09am

Where are our LGF retention bonuses?

65 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:47:21am

re: #63 subsailor68

Memo to Gerry Pasciucco:

Gerry, in case you didn't know, the man whose face adorns your precious little shirt is Che Guevara. He was a murderous bastard who slaughtered women and children. He was an unrepentant thug whose death made the world just a wee bit better. No wait. A whole lot better.

You're party theme is of a Cuba that no longer exists, and hasn't since Che's pal Castro took over and utterly destroyed it. No mojitos, no fancy Cuban feast, no rolled cigars, no 13 piece band.

Just debauchery, destruction, and debasement.

Get a clue, you pompous twit.

And if you had lived in Cuba right after the Revolution, you would have been one of the first to go!

66 zombie  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:47:30am

re: #63 subsailor68

Memo to Gerry Pasciucco:

Gerry, in case you didn't know, the man whose face adorns your precious little shirt is Che Guevara. He was a murderous bastard who slaughtered women and children. He was an unrepentant thug whose death made the world just a wee bit better. No wait. A whole lot better.

You're party theme is of a Cuba that no longer exists, and hasn't since Che's pal Castro took over and utterly destroyed it. No mojitos, no fancy Cuban feast, no rolled cigars, no 13 piece band.

Just debauchery, destruction, and debasement.

Get a clue, you pompous twit.

Bravo!

67 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:47:31am

And Michelle Malkin uses the AIG bonus story to.....write an idiotic rant bashing John McCain.

Because he didn't stop Bush from giving AIG billions of dollars in October.

I wish I was kidding, because she is the type of moron who loses elections for the GOP by driving away moderate voters and driving conservative voters away from moderate candidates.

She helped elect Obama, but all she can do is rant at John McCain. I expect to see more of that from the "true conservatives" the worse Obama gets, because it's the only way for them to attempt to justify their behavior last fall.

68 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:47:42am

re: #53 KingKenrod

Maybe he was joking?

Mmm. Gamey.

Seriously, no-one here really thinks he is pro-Che. What we think is that he's an insensitive asshead with contempt for decent people.

69 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:48:02am

I mean, if part of the "sounds of Cuba's past" was children screaming and gun shots then... well... Hey, Salsa!

70 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:48:04am

re: #62 redstateredneck

I didn't mean to do that. What I was trying to post was that I've got my teabag in an evelope addressed to the white house all ready to mail on April 1st.

71 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:48:05am

pimf: You're = Your.

Just to pissed off to proof it. Sorry.

72 opnion  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:48:06am

The facination with Che escapes me. He was a monster, saying before executions that trials were not necessary.
There were compalints by some Fidelistas that Che was not a partiular combat troop himself.

73 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:48:22am

re: #45 zombie

My sentiments exactly!

And this idiot makes millions of dollars a year while the American taxpayers keep his company afloat!

74 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:48:30am

re: #64 Spare O'Lake

Where are our LGF retention bonuses?

Hell's yeah! I've been here since 2004. I get a big one!

75 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:48:44am

Not a smidgen of good news today.

Trying hard not to despair...*sigh*

76 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:48:46am

Che's end. They sold his hair.

77 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:49:13am

Che is to PNL
as Obama is to Freedom

78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:49:21am

Here ya go, Raw!

79 researchok  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:49:23am

So much for all Wall St being Republican...

80 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:49:25am

BBL

81 joncelli  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:49:30am

Great. Now our businesses are rope salesmen.* We're screwed.

*See Lenin, V.I.

82 The Optimist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:49:37am

Read this to see the real Che-. [Link: www.therealcuba.com...]

The exact number of Che’s Cuban victims has not been verified, but include people he personally executed and those put to death under his orders. Che’s biographers consistently report that he sent thousands to the firing squad. Over 4,000 deaths are documented to have taken place in Cuba, mostly firing squad execution, in the first three years after Fidel Castro’s takeover (1959-1962). Che Guevara was one of the regime’s chief executioners during this period and is said to have acknowledged ordering "several thousand" executions. All took place without affording the victims fair trials and due process of law. The following list is not exhaustive and only includes cases for which historic reference is known. Names are cited as reported; dates and additional details for most are available. Combat deaths caused by Che in Cuba and killings in countries where he led guerrilla operations have not been tallied.
14 executed by Che in the Sierra Maestra during the anti-Batista guerrilla struggle (1957-1958):
1. ARISTIDIO 2. MANUEL CAPITÁN 3. JUAN CHANG 4. “BISCO” ECHEVARRÍA 5. ECHEVARRÍA BROTHER #1 6. ECHEVARRÍA BROTHER #2 7. EUTIMIO GUERRA 8. DIONISIO LEBRIGIO 9. JUAN LEBRIGIO 10. “EL NEGRO” NÁPOLES 11. “CHICHO” OSORIO 12. ONE UNIDENTIFIED TEACHER (“EL MAESTRO) 13.-14. 2 UNIDENTIFIED PEASANTS 10 executed in Santa Clara at Che’s orders in only two days (January 1959):
1. RAMÓN ALBA 2. JOSÉ BARROSO 3. JOAQUÍN CASILLAS 4. FÉLIX CRUZ 5. ALEJANDRO GARCÍA OLAYÓN 6. HÉCTOR MIRABAL 7. J. MIRABAL 8. FÉLIX MONTANO 9. CORNELIO ROJAS 10. VILALLA

156 executed at La Cabaña Fortress prison at Che Guevara’s orders:
1. VILAU ABREU 2. HUMBERTO AGUIAR 3. GERMÁN AGUIRRE 4. PELAYO ALAYÓN 5. JOSÉ LUIS ALFARO 6. PEDRO ALFARO 7. MARIANO ALONSO 8. JOSÉ ALVARO 9. ANIELLA 10. MARIO ARES POLO 11. JOSÉ RAMÓN BACALLAO 12. CEVERINO BARRIOS 13. EUGENIO BÉCQUER 14. FRANCISCO BÉCQUER 15. RAMÓN BISCET 16. ROBERTO CALZADILLA 17. EUFEMIO CANO 18. JUAN CAPOTE FIALLO 19. ANTONIO CARRALERO 20. GERTRUDIS CASTELLANOS 21. JOSÉ CASTAÑO QUEVEDO 22. RAÚL CASTAÑO
23. EUFEMIO CHALA 24. JOSÉ CHAMACE 25. JOSÉ CHAMIZO 26. RAÚL CLAUSELL 27. ÁNGEL CLAUSELL 28. DEMETRIO CLAUSELL 29. JOSÉ CLAUSELL 30. ELOY CONTRERAS 31. ALBERTO CORBO 32. EMILIO CRUZ
33. JUAN FELIPE CRUZ 34. ORESTES CRUZ 35. HUMBERTO CUEVAS 36. CUNY 37. ANTONIO DE BECHE 38. MATEO DELGADO 39. ARMANDO DELGADO 40. RAMÓN DESPAIGNE 41. JOSÉ DÍAZ CABEZAS 42. ANTONIO DUARTE 43. RAMÓN FERNÁNDEZ OJEDA 44. RUDY FERNÁNDEZ 45. FERRÁN ALFONSO
46. SALVADOR FERRERO 47. VICTOR FIGUEREDO 48. EDUARDO FORTE 49. UGARDE GALÁN 50. RAFAEL GARCÍA MUÑIZ 51. ADALBERTO GARCÍA 52. ALBERTO GARCÍA 53. JACINTO GARCÍA 54. EVELIO GASPAR 55. ARMADA GIL Y DIEZ CABEZAS 56. JOSÉ GONZÁLEZ MALAGÓN 57. EVARISTO GONZÁLEZ
58. EZEQUIEL GONZÁLEZ 59. SECUNDINO GONZÁLEZ 60. RICARDO GRAO 61. BONIFACIO GRASSO 62. RICARDO JOSÉ GRAU 63. OSCAR GUERRA 64. JULIÁN HERNÁNDEZ 65. FRANCISCO HERNÁNDEZ LEYVA 66. ANTONIO HERNÁNDEZ 67. GERARDO HERNÁNDEZ 68. OLEGARIO HERNÁNDEZ 69. SECUNDINO HERNÁNDEZ 70. JESÚS INSUA 71. ENRIQUE IZQUIERDO 72. OSMÍN JORRÍN 73. SILVINO JUNCO 74. ENRIQUE LA ROSA
75. IGNACIO LASAPARLA 76. JESÚS LAZO 77. ARIEL LIMA LAGO 78. RAÚL LÓPEZ VIDAL 79. ARMANDO MAS 80. ENERLIO MATA 81. ELPIDIO MEDEROS 82. JOSÉ MEDINAS 83. JOSÉ MESA 84. FIDEL MESQUÍA
85. JUAN MILIÁN 86. FRANCISCO MIRABAL 87. LUIS MIRABAL 88. ERNESTO MORALES 89. PEDRO MOREJÓN 90. DR. CARLOS MUIÑO, MD. 91. CÉSAR N ...

83 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:49:41am

re: #75 scottishbuzzsaw

Not a smidgen of good news today.

Trying hard not to despair...*sigh*


Try drinking and typing!

84 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:49:44am

great post Charles....one can cover alot of ground from it

85 jcm  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:50:06am

re: #64 Spare O'Lake

Where are our LGF retention bonuses?

You have access to level 6 and 7 at DIA, and are growing scales!

86 Sifty  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:50:20am

I am a simple man. All I can think about are two things when I see this:

1. All the murdered and oppressed human lives that savages like Che have destroyed.

2. This goofy bastard bastard has never gotten laid without having to pay top dollar for it.

87 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:50:31am

re: #76 Ojoe

Snappy dresser too!
To bad he pissed himself in death!

88 Sunlight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:50:37am

I'm looking for a bio of this guy: Gerry Pasciucco as I'm very curious whether he proves the rule that the elite east coast schools should be embarrassed at what they've taught people who are tanking this country.

89 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:50:39am

re: #35 zombie

They have a party celebrating pre-communist Cuba -- and the guy wears a Che shirt to it? Che, the guy who destroyed any remnant of pre-communist Cuba? What -- is this guy an idiot? Apparently so. The hypocrisy and head-exploding irony of his shirt is totally lost on this fool. It's the equivalent of wearing a Hitler shirt to a Holocaust Remembrance Day event.

He would wear a Stalin shirt to celebrate Czarist Russia.

90 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:50:47am

re: #75 scottishbuzzsaw

Not a smidgen of good news today.

Trying hard not to despair...*sigh*

"The sun'll come out, tomorrowwww..."

Shall I continue?

91 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:51:08am

re: #83 Nevergiveup

Try drinking and typing!

One corned beef sandwich and three Porters later . . .

92 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:51:10am

re: #83 Nevergiveup

Try drinking and typing!

Already am...*hic* ;>)

93 nyc redneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:51:17am

re: #75 scottishbuzzsaw

Not a smidgen of good news today.

Trying hard not to despair...*sigh*

i understand completely.
nothing but craziness going on.

94 LGoPs  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:51:22am
Here we see the current head of AIG Financial Products and former vice chairman of Morgan Stanley, Gerry Pasciucco, at an event called “Fiesta Cuba,” wearing a Che Guevara T-shirt.

For a truly authentic party, this asshat should have been kidnapped and held for ransom......
But based on their blinding historical illiteracy they would have used gorrillas to do the kidnapping and then PETA would have gotten involved and the whole thing would just degenerate into a mess........

95 HelloDare  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:51:26am

Guevara, who was practically the architect of the Soviet-Cuban relationship,[77] played a key role in bringing to Cuba the Soviet nuclear-armed ballistic missiles that precipitated the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962. During an interview with the British Communist newspaper The Daily Worker a few weeks after the crisis, Guevara still fuming, stated that if the missiles had been under Cuban control, they would have fired them off.[78] Sam Russell, the British correspondent who spoke to Guevara at the time came away with "mixed feelings", calling him "a warm character" and "clearly a man of great intelligence", but "crackers from the way he went on about the missiles."[78]

96 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:51:33am

In Communist China, business executives caught stealing are shot.

/luckily AIG has "0"

97 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:51:44am

I was at an Amish market eating lunch one time.
Overheard a moron trying to get an Amish girls phone #.
This guy reminds me of that guy.

98 Colonel Panik  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:51:45am

I dare him to wear that shirt in a Cuban neighborhood in Miami.

99 SteveC  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:52:07am

Israel may use the Jerico III missile against Iran

100 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:52:10am

re: #90 redstateredneck

"The sun'll come out, tomorrowwww..."

Shall I continue?

I'll forgive you for putting that song in my head...you meant well. {redstateredneck} ;>)

101 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:52:16am

re: #72 opnion

It's because he looks cool to lefties in the picture and that coolness makes lefties feel good about themselves... and that's what modern lie-beralism and lie-ftism is all about-appealing to emotions because even a halfassed thoughtful attempt at analysis of what they're about should be enough to turn enough the most dim-witted against their agenda...

102 zombie  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:52:20am

re: #89 CyanSnowHawk

He would wear a Stalin shirt to celebrate Czarist Russia.

Maybe a Lenin shirt would be a more accurate analogy. Stalin didn't come to power until after the Czarist era was already done and gone.

103 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:52:49am

re: #75 scottishbuzzsaw

Not a smidgen of good news today.

Trying hard not to despair...*sigh*

Market is up 96 right now, there's some good news (for now).

104 pegcity  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:52:51am

where do i get my nicolai Chaurchescu shit, or my idi amin hoodie?

105 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:53:06am

re: #97 SasquatchOnSteroids

Like flirting with a hot nun!
Can't be done with any class.............

106 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:53:17am

re: #93 nyc redneck

i understand completely.
nothing but craziness going on.

{nyc redneck} Gets overwhelming sometimes, doesn't it?

107 pegcity  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:53:18am

re: #99 SteveC

yup that would do it

108 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:53:23am

re: #67 funky chicken

And Michelle Malkin uses the AIG bonus story to.....write an idiotic rant bashing John McCain.

Because he didn't stop Bush from giving AIG billions of dollars in October.

I wish I was kidding, because she is the type of moron who loses elections for the GOP by driving away moderate voters and driving conservative voters away from moderate candidates.

She helped elect Obama, but all she can do is rant at John McCain. I expect to see more of that from the "true conservatives" the worse Obama gets, because it's the only way for them to attempt to justify their behavior last fall.

******

Get a grip, Michelle Malkin is a writer, not a politician able to tax your income 100%, or negotiate with Ahmedinejad without preconditions.

Idiots who wanted nationalization & government Big Brotherism, and Saddam Hussein to continue in office, shooting at American planes for 12 years while committing atrocities against humanity, elected Obama.

109 Sunlight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:53:36am

re: #64 Spare O'Lake

Where are our LGF retention bonuses?

Is that different from the Zionist checks?

110 Sifty  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:53:59am

re: #67 funky chicken

MM is tough to take in.

I don't feel I fit in with her world view very well.

I once had fun, which I think pisses her off pretty bad.

But she does decent research and her site is sometimes a good place to start researching a story.

111 SteveC  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:54:22am

re: #85 jcm

You have access to level 6 and 7 at DIA, and are growing scales!

Hell, let me have a concession license to sell skirts in the Flight Attendant's lounge, I'll be happy!

112 J.S.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:54:25am

There was a news report (re: AIG bonus payments) today, and the individual interviewed (didn't catch the name) was alleging that the bonuses could be "hush money" -- that is, the bonus payments going to AIG executives in London are not be given out so as to "retain" these "valued" employees (who drove the company into bankruptcy), but to make sure they don't talk...

113 HelloDare  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:54:32am

re: #95 HelloDare

So if Che had his way, Steven Soderbergh's parents would have been killed before little Steven was even born and ironically the movie Che would never have been made.

114 Dave the.....  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:54:37am

#97 Sas

I was at an Amish market eating lunch one time.
Overheard a moron trying to get an Amish girls phone #.
This guy reminds me of that guy.

A) Hey, I thought she was Mennonite. It was honest mistake.
B) When I saw the guys in the black hats and long beards, I thought they were all Jewish. I'm Lutheran, so can't tell the difference sometimes.

115 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:55:10am

An ass hole wearing a shirt with an ass hole on it.

116 Sifty  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:55:12am

re: #86 Sifty

I am a simple man. All I can think about are two things when I see this:

1. All the murdered and oppressed human lives that savages like Che have destroyed.

2. This goofy bastard bastard has never gotten laid without having to pay top dollar for it.

I can't believe I dislike this guy so much I wrote bastard twice without thinking.

More Guinness, stat!

117 FortunateSon  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:55:15am

Oh, that explains a hell of a lot.

118 zombie  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:55:17am

re: #97 SasquatchOnSteroids

I was at an Amish market eating lunch one time.
Overheard a moron trying to get an Amish girls phone #.

You never know -- it might be Rumspringa! That guy might be quite clever after all!

119 mfarmer1  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:55:18am

Gerry Pasciucco should be Mojitoboarded.

120 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:55:33am

re: #109 Sunlight

Is that different from the Zionist checks?

If you didn't get the special memo you're not getting the extra check...

121 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:55:40am

I'm leaving for the Time Share in two hours!
Sipping a cold one by the pool and gambling a little!
I will not turn on ANY NEWS TILL I RETURN!
Wouldn't want to ruin the suprise!
////////
God Bless America!
We really need it!

122 gmsc  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:55:56am

The Earmarked Bankruptcy

Excerpt:

This is the real problem, even beyond the taxpayer cost, of this new form of Congressional or Administration-led pseudo-bankruptcy: Winners and losers are determined by political power and perceptions of short-term political gain, rather than against a goal of maintaining value and following well understood and predictable rule. This process throws all the old predictable rules and traditions out the window. Investors and folks with contracts used to know just how senior their obligations were in a corporate failure. Now, they have no idea, as their position in the bankruptcy may in the future depend more on how much they donated in the last presidential election, or how good their PR agent is.

Or, as Francisco d'Anconia put it:

Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society's virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion--when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing--when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors--when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you--when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice--you may know that your society is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that is does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot.

123 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:56:13am

I'm comforted by the thought of an afterlife wherein everyone who celebrates a murder like Che, for example this ignoramous, is forced to view each of his crimes and understand the impact that loss caused in every wife, husband, son, daughter, parent, and friend affected.
I don't know that such a place exists, but I hope so.

124 obscured by clouds  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:56:17am

I'll bet this tool actually thinks Guevara was Cuban. I'd love to 'reverse boat people' guys like him, like Castro did back in the early '80s when he set all his criminals adrift toward Florida. Put him on a rickety, homemade, flotation device with Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Harold Raines, et al and cast them adrift toward Havana. The Cuban people deserve better though.

125 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:56:21am

I was watching Nightline last night, and they had a reporter and cameraman standing out AIG headquarters' revolving doors, to see if they could get anybody from AIG to talk on camera. One guy did step out and talk to them: Leslie Mouat, a Brit, who is their regional president for Southeast Asia, who'd just flown in from the Singapore office, where he's based (he said that 3,500 employees report to him).

He said that he was as mad about the AIG collapse as the public, and he hoped that the public wouldn't blame all the employees (120,000) of AIG for the actions of 450 people in the Financial Products, who he held responsible for driving the company off the cliff. He seemed geniunely pissed off about what the people in the NY offices have done.

The video is on the Nightline homepage. Look under Monday (in the center column of the page), for the video title, "American Outrage". Mouat appears halfway through the video, and again toward the end.

126 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:57:03am

oops, I got this guy and Libby confused.

127 SteveC  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:57:06am

re: #100 scottishbuzzsaw

I'll forgive you for putting that song in my head...you meant well. {redstateredneck} ;>)

One of actresses who played Annie campaigned for Pat Robertson while I was in college and I interviewed her. She was a warm, friendly young woman who was pretty smart (except for her choice of political candidates)

128 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:57:09am

re: #123 nikis-knight

Just in case, perhaps it's best folks like him get theirs now as well...

129 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:57:18am

re: #118 zombie

You never know -- it might be Rumspringa! That guy might be quite clever after all!

I always thought that Rumspringa was a brilliant idea...

130 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:57:32am

re: #84 albusteve

great post Charles....one can cover alot of ground from it

Indeed. What we proles are learning is, if I may repeat myself, the utter contempt at which our elites hold us.

The middle-businessmen like Joe the Plumber / Tito the Builder are dirty greedy kulaks to them. They float above us all, from university to the head of some financial services firm to lobbying to elected office and around about, throwing a few hundred million here and a few billion there. They are above being greedy; they can lose millions and, more importantly, their firms can lose trillions without crimping their lifestyles one bit. So what if the people below them get shafted? It's fewer nouveau riche with their gaudy ski outfits in the line ahead of them at the ski slope.

I don't mind having an upper class above me; hell, I'm halfway a monarchist myself. I do mind an upper class who looks at me as if I'm a bug to be squashed.

131 Buck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:57:32am

Gerry just didn't understand who Che was. This was a Cuba theme party, and lets face it, most of the people don't have a clue what went on, or goes on in Cuba.

This idiot was looking for something Cuban to wear, and the Che shirt was as good as anything.

This is a group who thinks that Desi Arnez is a good representative of the Cuban community...

So they are idiots.

132 MarineMomSue  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:57:44am

re: #97 SasquatchOnSteroids

I was at an Amish market eating lunch one time.
Overheard a moron trying to get an Amish girls phone #.
This guy reminds me of that guy.

That guy was an idiot...he should have asked for her email address not her phone number!

just in case: ///////

133 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:57:47am
134 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:57:47am

re: #86 Sifty

I am a simple man. All I can think about are two things when I see this:

1. All the murdered and oppressed human lives that savages like Che have destroyed.

2. This goofy bastard bastard has never gotten laid without having to pay top dollar for it.

That can be revised now to US paying his top dollar for it...but who is counting...

135 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:57:52am

My Dad's a republican CPA, and he told me that the AIG guys should all be in jail. Apparently AIG was the company that pioneered the insane packaging and reselling of subprime mortgages or something.

136 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:58:01am

IMO, that shirt is no accident. He is pandering to those in control, actually well thought out and a brilliant move. One of the many reasons I no longer work for a large corporation. The whole keep a hanky in your pocket to wipe of your nose thing didn't work for me.

137 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:58:19am

re: #118 zombie

You never know -- it might be Rumspringa! That guy might be quite clever after all!

It was pretty much a train wreck. Like watching the new guy at the bar buy the hot lesbian drinks allllll niiiigghhhhtttt loooonnggg.

138 zombie  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:59:06am

re: #129 scottishbuzzsaw

I always thought that Rumspringa was a brilliant idea...

Problem is, American culture in now 100% Rumspringa all the time.

139 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:59:31am

re: #44 Sharmuta

Financial executives in commie t-shirts.... that's like a 5 star chef eating at McDonalds.

No... more like a cook from McDonalds eating manure.

140 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:59:48am

re: #112 J.S.

There was a news report (re: AIG bonus payments) today, and the individual interviewed (didn't catch the name) was alleging that the bonuses could be "hush money" -- that is, the bonus payments going to AIG executives in London are not be given out so as to "retain" these "valued" employees (who drove the company into bankruptcy), but to make sure they don't talk...


That is all I need to know about that article.

141 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:59:57am

It's still not even 2 months. G-D it gets worse every day! HELP

142 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:00:04pm

re: #103 turn

Market is up 96 right now, there's some good news (for now).

Thanks, turn...

143 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:00:07pm

Ahhhh...the benefits of socialized health care.

'Shocking' treatment at Stafford Hospital may have killed 400, watchdog says

Patients admitted for emergency treatment at an NHS Trust were subjected to “shocking and appalling” care that included untrained receptionists carrying out medical checks and heart monitors being switched off, a report concluded today.

The Healthcare Commission, the NHS standards watchdog, said that evidence suggested that as many as 400 deaths at Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust could have been prevented and may have been the result of poor care.

The commission’s investigation, based on more than 300 interviews and an examination of more than 1,000 documents, uncovered inadequately trained staff who were too few in number, junior doctors left in charge at night, and patients left without food, drink or medication as their operations were repeatedly cancelled.

Some patients were in pain or needed the toilet, sat in soiled bedding for several hours at a time and were not given their regular medication, the commission heard.

Receptionists with no medical training were expected to assess patients coming into A&E.

Describing the episodes as a “gross and terrible breach of trust of the patients the NHS seeks to serve”, Sir Bruce Keogh, medical director of the NHS, said the report showed there had been a “complete failure of leadership” at the trust.

144 Miss Molly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:00:13pm

I doubt whether anyone will ever know just how many people Che is responsible for killing. After the revolution even the Cubans had enough of him. Finally he gets killed in some ditch in South America before he can do even more damage.

145 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:00:18pm

re: #131 Buck

Gerry just didn't understand who Che was. This was a Cuba theme party, and lets face it, most of the people don't have a clue what went on, or goes on in Cuba.

This idiot was looking for something Cuban to wear, and the Che shirt was as good as anything.

This is a group who thinks that Desi Arnez is a good representative of the Cuban community...

So they are idiots.

* * * *
Desi Arnaz was a Cuban immigrant & once in the USA, a television genius who invented the three camera technique which revolutionized television shows and made him & Lucille Ball multimillionaires. Not bad a for an immigrant who arrived in America with nothing but bongos!

146 summergurl  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:00:37pm

re: #43 newsjunkie_ky

This is the guy that the gov't put in as CEO and that the 0 praised. Similar mindsets.


WOuld be interesting if one could get thier hands on a guest list of this fun-filled idiot event

147 joncelli  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:00:44pm

re: #97 SasquatchOnSteroids

Overheard a moron trying to get an Amish girls phone #.

Bwahaha. "Where's your car parked, baby?"

148 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:00:57pm

re: #138 zombie

Problem is, American culture in now 100% Rumspringa all the time.

So should we have an anti-Rumspringa rite of passage?

149 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:01:40pm

re: #135 funky chicken

My Dad's a republican CPA, and he told me that the AIG guys should all be in jail. Apparently AIG was the company that pioneered the insane packaging and reselling of subprime mortgages or something.

As I understand it, they didn't package subprimes. What they did was even iffier: they created "insurance" products to cover the Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) that included subprime - or what we now call "toxic" mortgages. When the mortgage bubble burst, their "insurance" products were screwed.

(Smarter lizards than I can probably explain it better - but I believe the AIG products were also a form of credit default swap (CDS).)

150 rawmuse  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:01:53pm

I just heard on the radio that Sarah Jane Olsen has been freed.

151 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:01:56pm

re: 99
Well, I never seen that before.

152 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:01:58pm

Did he don a "D-Day" shirt later?

153 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:02:19pm

re: #135 funky chicken

My Dad's a republican CPA, and he told me that the AIG guys should all be in jail. Apparently AIG was the company that pioneered the insane packaging and reselling of subprim
mortgages or something.

* * *

But before that, Our government forced banks to make such crappy loans, or risk being sued or put out of business.

154 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:02:21pm

re: #125 Ward Cleaver

He said that he was as mad about the AIG collapse as the public, and he hoped that the public wouldn't blame all the employees (120,000) of AIG for the actions of 450 people in the Financial Products, who he held responsible for driving the company off the cliff. He seemed geniunely pissed off about what the people in the NY offices have done.

Those are the guys my dad was talking about. Their "Financial Products" were the repackaged subprime loan things that have killed the economy.

155 opnion  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:02:50pm

re: #101 anotherindyfilmguy

It's because he looks cool to lefties in the picture and that coolness makes lefties feel good about themselves... and that's what modern lie-beralism and lie-ftism is all about-appealing to emotions because even a halfassed thoughtful attempt at analysis of what they're about should be enough to turn enough the most dim-witted against their agenda...

I used to work with a guy from Havana. At age 13 he woke up to his former friends in his bedroom pointing rifles at him. His father was an officer in Batista's Navy. Fortunately they got the last Freedom Flight out.
He was not fond of Fidel or Che.

156 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:03:07pm
157 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:03:20pm

re: #127 SteveC

One of actresses who played Annie campaigned for Pat Robertson while I was in college and I interviewed her. She was a warm, friendly young woman who was pretty smart (except for her choice of political candidates)


Sarah Jessica Parker played the origninal role. We all know how she turned out.

158 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:03:26pm

re: #144 Miss Molly

I doubt whether anyone will ever know just how many people Che is responsible for killing. After the revolution even the Cubans had enough of him. Finally he gets killed in some ditch in South America before he can do even more damage.

re: #144 Miss Molly

I doubt whether anyone will ever know just how many people Che is responsible for killing. After the revolution even the Cubans had enough of him. Finally he gets killed in some ditch in South America before he can do even more damage.

he was summarily assasinated while in chains...not in a ditch

159 J.S.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:03:30pm

re: #135 funky chicken

From what I understand AIG was the insurer of any potential bad loans -- so if a borrower went into default, AIG was there to insure payments to the original lender. (sounds to me like a pretty nifty deal there -- were there kickbacks? sounds criminal)

160 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:03:38pm

Che-I-G

161 markx  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:03:58pm

I swear the world is turned upside down.

Another day, another dumbshit.

162 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:03:59pm

re: #157 redstateredneck

Sarah Jessica Parker played the origninal role. We all know how she turned out.

Who was the Annie-actress who ended up on Kate & Allie?

163 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:04:17pm

"Maybe if I wear this t-shirt, Obama will send us more money!"

164 zombie  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:04:17pm

re: #148 scottishbuzzsaw

So should we have an anti-Rumspringa rite of passage?

Excellent idea! For a three year period, every American teenager should refrain from running wild -- just to get a taste of what being modest is like. After that, they can return to their normal "Girls Gone Wild" ways.

165 joncelli  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:04:26pm

re: #138 zombie

I am filled with nekulturny shame, yet I must know: What the hell is Rumspringa?

166 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:04:37pm

re: #131 Buck

Gerry just didn't understand who Che was. This was a Cuba theme party, and lets face it, most of the people don't have a clue what went on, or goes on in Cuba.

This idiot was looking for something Cuban to wear, and the Che shirt was as good as anything.

This is a group who thinks that Desi Arnez is a good representative of the Cuban community...

So they are idiots.


So it was either Che or Ricky Riccardo and some other guy already got that costume (saw him in the pics).

167 WindHorse  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:04:39pm

Well, it sure is a comforting feeling to know that we have the likes of Barney Fwank pulling strings in Washington.... yep..... good to know that a man of such experience and moral fiber is representing us and taking care of business... yep....

/

168 Colonel Panik  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:04:46pm

re: #158 albusteve

he was summarily assasinated while in chains...not in a ditch

The Bolivians "put him to the wall" as they say in Latin America. Just desserts as Che had done the same to so many others.

169 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:05:14pm

re: #165 joncelli

I am filled with nekulturny shame, yet I must know: What the hell is Rumspringa?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

170 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:05:17pm

I don't know if I have a bigger problem with the che shirt or the goofy yellow handkerchief, blue blazer and white t shirt/pants combo.

All together now. Repeat after me

Moonbat with a midlife crisis

171 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:05:22pm

re: #157 redstateredneck

Sarah Jessica Parker played the origninal role. We all know how she turned out.

I always thought Andrea McArdle originated the role?

172 LGoPs  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:05:24pm
....you can see a recent photograph of Mr. Pasciucco from a party in Belle Haven, sporting a Che Guevara t-shirt, blue blazer and handkerchief,......

There are few things in the world more unattractive, and more deserving of ridicule than a washed up ex-hippie wannabe trying to look hip and cool.......and totally missing the mark by embracing a symbol that would have happily killed him, given half a chance.

People like this evoke a modification to the old saying of '.....opening your mouth and removing all doubt that you're an idiot'. In this clowns case it's '...look at my shirt and see what an idiot I am'.

173 The Other Les  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:05:26pm

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

Eurocare: Take two aspirin and drop dead in the morning.

174 Dave the.....  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:05:29pm
I just heard on the radio that Sarah Jane Olsen has been freed

A bit of a controversy in the Twin Cities. This time, the entire Democrat establishment isn't supporting the terrorist, just some of them.

True story: When the hag was arrested in 2000 (or so), the Dems treated it as a joke. Held fund raisers for here at her left wing church. She put out a cook book with a catchy title (related to her arrest), St Paul city council members supported her. And her lawyer kept getting the trial postponed. Again and again.

Then 9/11 happened. Suddenly terrorism wasn't just a joke. Hence her jail time.

175 summergurl  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:05:30pm

re: #162 scottishbuzzsaw

Who was the Annie-actress who ended up on Kate & Allie?


Jane something

SHe was in the Conehead movie too

176 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:05:41pm

re: #149 subsailor68

Yeah, I guess that's what he said :-). They are an "insurance" group after all.

As I understand it, they didn't package subprimes. What they did was even iffier: they created "insurance" products to cover the Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) that included subprime - or what we now call "toxic" mortgages. When the mortgage bubble burst, their "insurance" products were screwed.

(Smarter lizards than I can probably explain it better - but I believe the AIG products were also a form of credit default swap (CDS).)

I was just shocked because the statement was so out of character for him.

177 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:05:56pm
178 markx  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:06:01pm

re: #156 Iron Fist

From each according to his measure, to each according to his needs.

Yeah, I need a Porsche. Give it to me Gerry.

179 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:06:22pm

re: #145 alegrias

Not bad a for an immigrant who arrived in America with nothing but bongos congas!

180 Colonel Panik  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:06:33pm

re: #175 summergurl

Jane something

SHe was in the Conehead movie too

Jane Curtin from the original SNL cast?

181 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:06:38pm

re: #175 summergurl

Jane something

SHe was in the Conehead movie too

Jayne Curtian?

182 HelloDare  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:06:47pm

re: #150 rawmuse

I just heard on the radio that Sarah Jane Olsen has been freed.

There'll be a little celebration at Billy's and Bernadine's house. Dress appropriately. A Che t-shirt would be nice.

183 Sunlight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:06:50pm

Gerry Pasciucco, the man in the Che shirt:

A bespectacled Harvard Business School alum who runs and plays squash

Perfect, eh? Harvard, are you embarrassed? Or do you think he's edgy and cool also, memorializing a mass murderer (with grievances!). That would be logical since you were his teacher.

184 jcm  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:07:21pm

180 DOCUMENTED VICTIMS OF CHÉ GUEVARA

14 executed by Che in the Sierra Maestra during the anti-Batista guerrilla struggle (1957-1958):

1. ARISTIDIO
2. MANUEL CAPITÁN
3. JUAN CHANG
4. “BISCO” ECHEVARRÍA
5. ECHEVARRÍA BROTHER #1
6. ECHEVARRÍA BROTHER #2
7. EUTIMIO GUERRA
8. DIONISIO LEBRIGIO
9. JUAN LEBRIGIO
10. “EL NEGRO” NÁPOLES
11. “CHICHO” OSORIO
12. ONE UNIDENTIFIED TEACHER (“EL MAESTRO)
13.-14. 2 UNIDENTIFIED PEASANTS

10 executed in Santa Clara at Che’s orders in only two days (January 1959):
1. RAMÓN ALBA
2. JOSÉ BARROSO
3. JOAQUÍN CASILLAS
4. FÉLIX CRUZ
5. ALEJANDRO GARCÍA OLAYÓN
6. HÉCTOR MIRABAL
7. J. MIRABAL
8. FÉLIX MONTANO
9. CORNELIO ROJAS
10. VILALLA

156 executed at La Cabaña Fortress prison at Che Guevara’s orders:
1. VILAU ABREU
2. HUMBERTO AGUIAR
3. GERMÁN AGUIRRE
4. PELAYO ALAYÓN
5. JOSÉ LUIS ALFARO
6. PEDRO ALFARO
7. MARIANO ALONSO
8. JOSÉ ALVARO
9. ANIELLA
10. MARIO ARES POLO
11. JOSÉ RAMÓN BACALLAO
12. CEVERINO BARRIOS
13. EUGENIO BÉCQUER
14. FRANCISCO BÉCQUER
15. RAMÓN BISCET
16. ROBERTO CALZADILLA
17. EUFEMIO CANO
18. JUAN CAPOTE FIALLO
19. ANTONIO CARRALERO
20. GERTRUDIS CASTELLANOS
21. JOSÉ CASTAÑO QUEVEDO
22. RAÚL CASTAÑO
23. EUFEMIO CHALA
24. JOSÉ CHAMACE
25. JOSÉ CHAMIZO
26. RAÚL CLAUSELL
27. ÁNGEL CLAUSELL
28. DEMETRIO CLAUSELL
29. JOSÉ CLAUSELL
30. ELOY CONTRERAS
31. ALBERTO CORBO
32. EMILIO CRUZ
33. JUAN FELIPE CRUZ
34. ORESTES CRUZ
35. HUMBERTO CUEVAS
36. CUNY
37. ANTONIO DE BECHE
38. MATEO DELGADO
39. ARMANDO DELGADO
40. RAMÓN DESPAIGNE
41. JOSÉ DÍAZ CABEZAS
42. ANTONIO DUARTE
43. RAMÓN FERNÁNDEZ OJEDA
44. RUDY FERNÁNDEZ
45. FERRÁN ALFONSO
46. SALVADOR FERRERO
47. VICTOR FIGUEREDO
48. EDUARDO FORTE
49. UGARDE GALÁN
50. RAFAEL GARCÍA MUÑIZ
51. ADALBERTO GARCÍA
52. ALBERTO GARCÍA
53. JACINTO GARCÍA
54. EVELIO GASPAR
55. ARMADA GIL Y DIEZ CABEZAS
56. JOSÉ GONZÁLEZ MALAGÓN
57. EVARISTO GONZÁLEZ
58. EZEQUIEL GONZÁLEZ
59. SECUNDINO GONZÁLEZ
60. RICARDO GRAO
61. BONIFACIO GRASSO
62. RICARDO JOSÉ GRAU
63. OSCAR GUERRA
64. JULIÁN HERNÁNDEZ
65. FRANCISCO HERNÁNDEZ LEYVA
66. ANTONIO HERNÁNDEZ
67. GERARDO HERNÁNDEZ
68. OLEGARIO HERNÁNDEZ
69. SECUNDINO HERNÁNDEZ
70. JESÚS INSUA
71. ENRIQUE IZQUIERDO
72. OSMÍN JORRÍN
73. SILVINO JUNCO
74. ENRIQUE LA ROSA
75. IGNACIO LASAPARLA
76. JESÚS LAZO
77. ARIEL LIMA LAGO
78. RAÚL LÓPEZ VIDAL
79. ARMANDO MAS
80. ENERLIO MATA
81. ELPIDIO MEDEROS
82. JOSÉ MEDINAS
83. JOSÉ MESA
84. FIDEL MESQUÍA
85. JUAN MILIÁN
86. FRANCISCO MIRABAL
87. LUIS MIRABAL
88. ERNESTO MORALES
89. PEDRO MOREJÓN
90. DR. CARLOS MUIÑO, MD.
91. CÉSAR NECOLARDES ROJAS
92. VICTOR NECOLARDES ROJAS
93. JOSÉ NUÑEZ
94. VITERBO O'RREILLY
95. FÉLIX OVIEDO
96. MANUEL PANEQUE
97. PEDRO PEDROSO
98. RAFAEL PEDROSO
99. DIEGO PÉREZ CUESTA
100. JUAN PÉREZ
101. DIEGO PÉREZ CRELA
102. JOSÉ POZO
103. EMILIO PUEBLA
104. ALFREDO PUPO
105. SECUNDINO RAMÍREZ
106. RAMÓN RAMOS
107. PABLO RAVELO
108. RUBÉN REY
109. MARIO RISQUELME
110. FERNANDO RIVERA
111. PABLO RIVERA
112. MANUEL RODRÍGUEZ
113. MARCOS RODRÍGUEZ
114. NEMESIO RODRÍGUEZ
115. PABLO RODRÍGUEZ
116. RICARDO RODRÍGUEZ
117. JOSÉ SALDARA
118. PEDRO SANTANA
119. SERGIO SIERRA
120. JUAN SILVA
121. FAUSTO SILVA
122. ELPIDIO SOLER
123. JESÚS SOSA BLANCO
124. RENATO SOSA
125. SERGIO SOSA
126. PEDRO SOTO
127. OSCAR SUÁREZ
128. RAFAEL TARRAGO
129. TEODORO TELLEZ CISNEROS
130. FRANCISCO TELLEZ
131. JOSÉ TIN
132. FRANCISCO TRAVIESO
133. LEONARDO TRUJILLO
134. TRUJILLO
135. LUPE VALDÉS BARBOSA
136. MARCELINO VALDÉS
137. ANTONIO VALENTÍN
138. MANUEL VÁZQUEZ
139. SERGIO VÁZQUEZ
140. VERDECIA
141. DÁMASO ZAYAS

*15 additional executions were reported by The New York Times (on 2/6/59, 2/8/59, 3/16/59, and 4/2/59), but names are unknown.

Anyone wearing a Che shirt should be FORCED to read this list. Then FORCED to eat the shirt.

185 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:07:23pm

re: #175 summergurl

Jane something

SHe was in the Conehead movie too

Jane Curtain.

/jane, you ignorant slut

186 zombie  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:07:52pm

re: #165 joncelli

I am filled with nekulturny shame, yet I must know: What the hell is Rumspringa?

Rumspringa is an officially approved phase for Amish teenagers in which they are temporarily allowed to violate the rules of the community -- be promiscuous, take drugs, etc. After they've "gotten it out of their system," they get baptized, assume adult Amish garb, and become pillars of the community.

See the movie "Devil's Playground." It will blow your mind.

187 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:08:18pm

re: #181 Nevergiveup

Jayne Curtian?

Jane Curtain - she was on SNL too, when Chevy Chase was on, Garret Morris, etc.

"Jane, you ignorant slut!".

188 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:08:29pm
189 Buck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:08:35pm

re: #67 funky chicken

And Michelle Malkin uses the AIG bonus story to.....write an idiotic rant bashing John McCain.

Because he didn't stop Bush from giving AIG billions of dollars in October.

Sorry, in my opinion McCain isn't blameless.

If he had run a 30 second ad with these points in it, and ended with "And Obama, when he bothered to vote, voted with these guys 100% of the time" then I would have some respect for him.....

Youtube Video

I seriously think THIS would have changed the election...

190 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:09:01pm

re: #186 zombie

Rumspringa is an officially approved phase for Amish teenagers in which they are temporarily allowed to violate the rules of the community -- be promiscuous, take drugs, etc. After they've "gotten it out of their system," they get baptized, assume adult Amish garb, and become pillars of the community.

See the movie "Devil's Playground." It will blow your mind.

No wonder Amish country is such a popular tourist destination.

191 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:09:05pm

Interesting comments on 538 about AIG, the bonuses and more.

link

192 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:09:12pm

I hope this picture spreads all across the internet...This asshole needs to be mercilessly mocked and ridiculed by Americans of both parties.

May he become the butt of a thousand jokes.

193 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:09:25pm

If I didn't know better, and I'm not sure I do, I'd think Obama was in on the bonus giving, just to gin up outrage to fuel his class warfare.

194 SteveC  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:09:39pm

re: #145 alegrias

* * * *
Desi Arnaz was a Cuban immigrant & once in the USA, a television genius who invented the three camera technique which revolutionized television shows and made him & Lucille Ball multimillionaires. Not bad a for an immigrant who arrived in America with nothing but bongos!

Ease up on Desi. The production company he and Lucille owned (Desilu) is responsible for the original Star Trek

195 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:09:50pm
196 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:09:52pm

re: #187 reine.de.tout

Jane Curtain - she was on SNL too, when Chevy Chase was on, Garret Morris, etc.

"Jane, you ignorant slut!".

GMTA!

197 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:09:54pm

In a stunning reversal, President Obama ordered all AIG bonuses TRIPLED, effective immeadiately.

198 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:10:11pm

re: #162 scottishbuzzsaw

Who was the Annie-actress who ended up on Kate & Allie?

Got it! Allison Smith, who played the daughter 'Jennie' on K&A, and was also the longest-running Annie on Broadway...

199 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:10:24pm

Charles Grassley is right, these swine were sucking at the tit of the taxpayer!

200 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:10:32pm

re: #173 The Other Les

EuroBRITcare: Take two aspirin and drop dead in the morning.

FTFY

201 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:10:39pm

re: #162 scottishbuzzsaw

Who was the Annie-actress who ended up on Kate & Allie?

Allison Smith (have google will travel)

202 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:10:41pm

re: #196 Ward Cleaver

GMTA!

yowza!

That line is forever burned into my brain.

203 The Optimist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:11:01pm

re: #184 jcm

Thanks JCM, your list is neater and completer than mine.
VL

204 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:11:15pm
205 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:11:44pm

re: #51 zombie

That's why I think it's kinda funny.

206 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:11:59pm

re: #193 nikis-knight

If I didn't know better, and I'm not sure I do, I'd think Obama was in on the bonus giving, just to gin up outrage to fuel his class warfare.

Well it was announced months ago, so it could just be so.

207 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:12:06pm

re: #194 SteveC

Ease up on Desi. The production company he and Lucille owned (Desilu) is responsible for the original Star Trek

* * * *
I have nothing but respect for people who came to America from marxist gulags with nothing but their brains, and made something of themselves.

208 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:12:11pm

re: #201 redstateredneck

Allison Smith (have google will travel)

Thank you! Yes, I should have googled before asking. *hangs head in shame*

209 Eowyn2  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:12:15pm

Mama always says "stupid is as stupid does"

210 bulwrk  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:12:25pm

re: #174 Dave the.....

If the bomb had detonated it would not have only killed the officers but more than likely customers on the other side of a plate glass window eating at the IHOP the cruiser was parked in front of, including a family with several small children.She should be in jail the rest of her life.

211 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:12:32pm

Obama's Favorite Company, Caterpillar, Lays Off 2500 More (CAT)

But....but....but...He went there.

212 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:12:58pm

re: #194 SteveC

Ease up on Desi. The production company he and Lucille owned (Desilu) is responsible for the original Star Trek

Ease up? I don't think calling him a genius is being that harsh!

213 Diamond Bullet  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:13:03pm

If you look through the gallery, there are people dressed up as Lucy and Ricky Ricardo. While I'm not about to defend AIG, it's possible he wore Che as a Halloweenish costume. If true, that might downgrade this gaffe into the "horrible taste" category. Just sayin'.

214 HelloDare  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:13:07pm

re: #189 Buck

People knowing about Obama's opposition to the Born Alive Infants Protection Act would have cost him the election. But the press made sure nobody knew about it.

215 SteveC  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:13:15pm

re: #157 redstateredneck

Sarah Jessica Parker played the origninal role. We all know how she turned out.

No this was someone else. I don't remember the name, but SJP would/shoud have stuck.

216 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:13:26pm
217 Miss Molly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:13:27pm

I understand why Chris Dodd is trying to cover his tracks after getting caught allowing a clause into the bail out to allow bonuses to AIG execs
but why aren't 99 other Senators at least expressing concern about this matter and how it might be fixed. If not 99 Senators at least half of them should be condeming this conduct.

218 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:13:54pm

re: #211 Ben Hur

Obama's Favorite Company, Caterpillar, Lays Off 2500 More (CAT)

But....but....but...He went there.


Hell, he didn't just go there. He pronounced that his presence would stop the need for layoffs!

219 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:13:55pm

Is Pasciucco scheduled to get a bonus?
Do you think Obama REALLY wants to take away Pasciucco's bonus?

/if you're inclined to answer "yes", I've got a bridge and want to talk

220 Eowyn2  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:14:19pm

re: #184 jcm

We need a no-che shirt with all of those names on it.

221 Teacake!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:14:34pm
26 Killgore Trout -

It is a funny pic but it is a 50's themed Cuban party so the shirt is kinda makes sense.

Actually, we can't say for sure if he is a fan or making fun of the guy.

222 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:14:34pm

re: #205 Killgore Trout

That's why I think it's kinda funny.

Sure, funny in a dark, pathetic kind of way, but in no rational world does it "make sense", especially since I doubt that doofus was being ironic.

223 debutaunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:14:38pm

re: #135 funky chicken

My Dad's a republican CPA, and he told me that the AIG guys should all be in jail. Apparently AIG was the company that pioneered the insane packaging and reselling of subprime mortgages or something.

It all began with the CRA.

224 obscured by clouds  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:14:51pm

When I was in Cuba back in the late '90s I was struck by how you see Che everywhere. His carricature is painted on buildings, baseball stadiums, bus stops, you name it. I even saw several Che tattoos. He was everywhere. And yet you very rarely saw anything Castro. I came to the conclusion that Cubans still revere Guevara (and Castro knows it). It's almost as if there's a disconnect with Guevara's role in getting them in the straits they're in and his image is the only thing that makes the revolution and its bleak aftermath palatable.

225 joncelli  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:15:15pm

re: #199 alegrias

Charles Grassley is right, these swine were sucking at the tit of the taxpayer!

GET OFF ME! GET OFF!

226 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:15:15pm

20:37 French FM: Precise improvements have been made to Durban II draft (Reuters)

Yeah, like the target has changed?

227 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:15:17pm

To steal TFK's phrase:

This 'evil two party money cult' is complicit with each other's crimes.

If we only knew how deep the rabbit hole actually goes...

228 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:15:22pm

re: #217 Miss Molly

I understand why Chris Dodd is trying to cover his tracks after getting caught allowing a clause into the bail out to allow bonuses to AIG execs
but why aren't 99 other Senators at least expressing concern about this matter and how it might be fixed. If not 99 Senators at least half of them should be condeming this conduct.

Maybe because they have lots of their own shenanigans to try and cover up and keep quiet.

229 summergurl  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:15:24pm

re: #211 Ben Hur

Obama's Favorite Company, Caterpillar, Lays Off 2500 More (CAT)

But....but....but...He went there.

Yes, and on Rush today Rush said the President of Catepillar said that he had been "used" by BO and never said those things...

230 Teacake!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:15:38pm

meant to preface that with - you have a good point since -

231 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:15:47pm

re: #215 SteveC

No this was someone else. I don't remember the name, but SJP would/shoud have stuck.

Hey SteveC! The original Annie (on Broadway - 1977) was played by a young lady named Andrea McCardle.

Here's a link: Annie

232 kansas  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:15:56pm

Guys that look like this are not cool with:
1. Ear Rings
2. Pony Tails
3. Che Shirts
4. All of the above

233 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:16:01pm

Barack Obama is IRISH!

Youtube Video
234 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:16:04pm

re: #213 Diamond Bullet

If you look through the gallery, there are people dressed up as Lucy and Ricky Ricardo. While I'm not about to defend AIG, it's possible he wore Che as a Halloweenish costume. If true, that might downgrade this gaffe into the "horrible taste" category. Just sayin'.

It's possible.

235 HelloDare  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:16:08pm

re: #216 ploome hineni

Maybe moonbats will understand that: Che was opposed to Lucy. Now maybe they'll take Che seriously.

236 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:16:25pm

re: #171 subsailor68

I always thought Andrea McArdle originated the role?

landed the lead in the Broadway run of "Annie".

237 Miss Molly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:16:29pm

Ben Hur -- you made me laugh thinking about Obama tripleing all those bonuses except for the total fright that he is capable of doing something that stupid or worse.

238 markx  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:16:41pm

re: #195 Iron Fist

I just want my bailout. I'm cheap. All I want is five million dollars. As I've indicated before, I am willing to accept the payment in gold bullion and automatic weapons and ammunition if they don't have time to print the money up for me.

I'd be happy to accept such a payment.


I'm cheaper... less than $500K...

I'd settle for a Porche, mortagage paid off, and the kid's college accounts fully funded.

239 Teacake!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:16:44pm

I hear he was quite the lady's man.

240 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:17:14pm

re: #239 Teacake!

I hear he was quite the lady's man.

Che or Ricky?

241 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:17:22pm

re: #213 Diamond Bullet

If you look through the gallery, there are people dressed up as Lucy and Ricky Ricardo. While I'm not about to defend AIG, it's possible he wore Che as a Halloweenish costume. If true, that might downgrade this gaffe into the "horrible taste" category. Just sayin'.

Don't agree.
There simply are some things one doesn't do.
Wearing a 'Che'-shirt, wearing a keffiyah (unless its the one from Israel!) are two of those.
There are others.

Its not a fashion gaffe - its an indicator of one's political stupidity.

242 SteveC  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:17:43pm

re: #218 jamgarr

Hell, he didn't just go there. He pronounced that his presence would stop the need for layoffs!

So it is written, so shall it be! I have spoken! I am OBAMA!" *Thunder rolls*

243 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:17:45pm

This is my favorite Che graphic.

244 Buck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:17:51pm

OT:

Something is going wrong at Facebook.... The webservers are puking...remember you heard it from me first.

245 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:18:05pm

re: #236 redstateredneck

landed the lead in the Broadway run of "Annie".

Yep, but wasn't the first. From that link:

Was third in the list of girls to play her.

246 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:18:34pm

re: #167 WindHorse

Well, it sure is a comforting feeling to know that we have the likes of Barney Fwank pulling strings in Washington.... yep..... good to know that a man of such experience and moral fiber is representing us and taking care of business... yep....

/


Barney Fwank the banking queen. One of the funniest parodies I've heard.

247 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:18:40pm

Has it been mentioned that Lucille Ball was well-known in the industry as a verrrry savvy business woman?

248 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:18:52pm
249 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:19:19pm

re: #216 ploome hineni

I enjoyed the movie, The Mambo Kings (based on the Pulitzer prize-winning novel). In the movie, Desi Arnaz, Jr plays the role of his dad, in a small part.

250 jcm  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:19:22pm

re: #243 Alouette

This is my favorite Che graphic.

Thanks, I was looking for that! Favorited!

251 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:19:26pm

re: #245 subsailor68

Yep, but wasn't the first. From that link:

Was third in the list of girls to play her.

You win!
:D

252 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:19:43pm

re: #223 debutaunt

It all began with the CRA.

Jimmuh.

253 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:19:47pm

re: #247 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Has it been mentioned that Lucille Ball was well-known in the industry as a verrrry savvy business woman?

Yes but weren't there rumors she had left leanings. Ya know ran with the red crowd, and that is besides her hair?

254 LGoPs  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:19:50pm

re: #223 debutaunt

It all began with the CRA.

We should really be calling it the Community Reinvestment Act Program....known by its acronym CRAP.

255 midwestgak  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:20:14pm

re: #247 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Has it been mentioned that Lucille Ball was well-known in the industry as a verrrry savvy business woman?

Vita veta vegemite

256 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:20:33pm

re: #243 Alouette

This is my favorite Che graphic.

Awww ~ look at those cute little tootsies. /

257 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:20:34pm

re: #251 redstateredneck

You win!
:D

Nah! Hey, hope nobody here notices that you and I have a thing for girls with no pupils!

:-)

258 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:20:35pm

re: #250 jcm

Thanks, I was looking for that! Favorited!

Cool!

259 Teacake!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:20:35pm
Nevergiveup -
re: #239 Teacake!

I hear he was quite the lady's man.

Che or Ricky?

LOL! I meant Che but I guess both now that you pointed it out.

260 Mr. Pizza  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:20:46pm

Sheesh how incredibly clueless and pathetic. Too bad the photo doesn't show who is on his right arm. It's probably just his sister in law.

261 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:20:59pm

re: #255 midwestgak

Vita veta vegemite


HAHAHA! That one and she and Ethel working in the candy factory are two of my favorites!

262 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:21:01pm

OK. This man is delusional.

NEW YORK (CNN) -- What a welcome change to feel like someone is running the country instead of running it into the ground.

President Obama has done more in eight weeks than George W. Bush did in eight years -- unless you include starting a couple of wars.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

263 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:21:10pm

Reposted from previous thread:

The Real AIG Outrage

Look over there! Shiny objects!

264 SteveC  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:21:34pm

re: #243 Alouette

This is my favorite Che graphic.

Cool! Can you make him kick his leg? My dog can do that! :)

265 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:21:39pm

re: #256 scottishbuzzsaw

Awww ~ look at those cute little tootsies. /

Tickle tickle!

266 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:21:43pm

re: #253 Nevergiveup

Yes but weren't there rumors she had left leanings. Ya know ran with the red crowd, and that is besides her hair?

I don't know about that.
/not making excuses -- I simply don't know.

267 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:21:54pm

re: #221 Teacake!

Actually, we can't say for sure if he is a fan or making fun of the guy.

Sorry, I may be a bit clenched-fist-like about this, but there simply are things which are not funny - if we assume he's ot a fan but just 'having fun'.

One does not use the image of a multipe murderer just for fun.
Wouid he have worn a T-shirt with the image of Charles Manson on it, for fun?

268 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:21:56pm

re: #257 subsailor68

Nah! Hey, hope nobody here notices that you and I have a thing for girls with no pupils!

:-)


When the movie came out on tape, my older daughter WORE ME OUT playing it. I know all the songs and most of the dialogue!

269 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:21:58pm

re: #262 Ben Hur

OK. This man is delusional.


[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I think Cafferty and Andrew Sullivan have been huffing the same brand of model airplane glue.

270 Teacake!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:22:19pm
re: #243 Alouette

This is my favorite Che graphic.

Thanks, I was looking for that! Favorited!

Hilarious!

271 maximus kreyzlkil  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:22:22pm

You'll work harder with a gun at your back for a bowl of rice a day!

Slavin' for soldiers 'till you starve and head is skewered on a stake!

272 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:22:23pm

Important!

Click my nic for an update as to recent cookbook funds activity.
Also, click my nic if you still need to buy your cookbook! ! ! !

273 Eowyn2  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:22:39pm

re: #177 Iron Fist

We're fucked, man. I'm just becoming resigned to it. Hopefully the Girlfriend and I will be able to keep our jobs through the up-coming depression. If not, at least I know how to kill my own food.

Or them as has food, and take it. It's a short hard life for the weak.

My mother has decided to keep her house since it is paid for so that if any of her kids or grandkids who might fall on hard times will always have a home to go to. Mom remembers the depression.

274 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:22:54pm

re: #227 Oh no...Sand People!

To steal TFK's phrase:

This 'evil two party money cult' is complicit with each other's crimes.

If we only knew how deep the rabbit hole actually goes...


I would wager that AIG went into the packaging of sub prime loans knowing it was too be a failure AND bailed out.

275 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:22:55pm

I think the best costume to wear at this party would have been to dress like Monica Lewinski

276 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:23:00pm

Does anyone here know what it means when you get a "blue screen error"?

277 summergurl  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:23:01pm

re: #244 Buck

OT:

Something is going wrong at Facebook.... The webservers are puking...remember you heard it from me first.

It's back up now

278 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:23:46pm

re: #272 reine.de.tout

Thanks again for all your work on the project.

279 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:23:49pm
280 Buck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:23:52pm

re: #195 Iron Fist

I just want my bailout. I'm cheap. All I want is five million dollars. As I've indicated before, I am willing to accept the payment in gold bullion and automatic weapons and ammunition if they don't have time to print the money up for me.

I'd be happy to accept such a payment.

Right.... you think we don't know you?

Give you gold bullion and automatic weapons and ammunition one week, and then we will only have to give you more of the same next week.

281 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:23:54pm

re: #67 funky chicken

And Michelle Malkin uses the AIG bonus story to.....write an idiotic rant bashing John McCain.

Because he didn't stop Bush from giving AIG billions of dollars in October.

I wish I was kidding, because she is the type of moron who loses elections for the GOP by driving away moderate voters and driving conservative voters away from moderate candidates.

She helped elect Obama, but all she can do is rant at John McCain. I expect to see more of that from the "true conservatives" the worse Obama gets, because it's the only way for them to attempt to justify their behavior last fall.

The AIG bailouts weren't part of TARP. They were done separately by Hank Paulson and GW Bush. Period. No US Senator voted on them.

For Malkin to blame the AIG bailouts on John McCain is idiotic, and she should know better. But she has to justify her hatred of McCain and refusal to support his candidacy somehow.

It's sad to see an intelligent person lie to herself like that, and even sadder to see people cheering her on and following her advice.

282 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:23:56pm

re: #266 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I don't know about that.
/not making excuses -- I simply don't know.

Testimony Before the House Committee on Un-American Activities
In 1953, Ball was subpoenaed by the House Committee on Un-American Activities because she had registered to vote in the Communist party primary election in 1936 at her socialist grandfather's insistence (per FBI FOIA-released documents in a declassified FBI file).[40] Immediately before the filming of episode 68 ("The Girls Go Into Business") of I Love Lucy, Desi Arnaz, instead of his usual audience warm-up, told the audience about Lucy and her grandfather. Arnaz quipped: "The only thing red about Lucy is her hair, and even that's not legitimate." Then, he presented his wife and she received a standing ovation from the audience.[16]

I guess pretty innocuous.

283 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:24:03pm

re: #269 Occasional Reader

I think Cafferty and Andrew Sullivan have been huffing the same brand of model airplane glue.

Too many poppers.

284 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:24:04pm

re: #268 redstateredneck

When the movie came out on tape, my older daughter WORE ME OUT playing it. I know all the songs and most of the dialogue!

My daughter, 4, runs around the house singing Hard Knock Life. It's hilarious. When we're in the car she insists on it - and my son, 7, groans "Ugh! Again?! Can't we listen to something else?"

285 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:24:12pm

re: #248 taxfreekiller

Wrong but gone,
Right but left,
gone but the right
right butt's the left

Obama Wrong but not left enough yet
Left not left enough, Lt. Kerry salutes you
Right is and was but 4% less
Constitutions require more,

Whores need pimps,
Tax the whores in congress all the more
Barney Frank pinkest pimp of them all,
Obama,,,reddest commie of them all,

Talk, talk, talk, no tax on bull shit has ever been collected yet
Obama, Obama, flow master bull shit artist doth flow without end.

You should start a rap career.

The TFK rap.

286 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:24:13pm

re: #268 redstateredneck

When the movie came out on tape, my older daughter WORE ME OUT playing it. I know all the songs and most of the dialogue!

LOL! I played in the orchestra for a local production here in the Texas Hill Country. It took me years to get those songs out of my head!

(And the girl who played Annie - bless her heart - couldn't hit the high notes. Sigh.)

287 Miss Molly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:24:15pm

I hope there will be a picture of this guy on Hannity tonight along with the amount of bonus he is getting.

288 Teacake!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:24:20pm
yma o hyd -

Sorry, I may be a bit clenched-fist-like about this, but there simply are things which are not funny - if we assume he's ot a fan but just 'having fun'.

One does not use the image of a multipe murderer just for fun.
Wouid he have worn a T-shirt with the image of Charles Manson on it, for fun?

Making fun of the lefty's not Che. But there isn't any way to know why he is wearing it.

289 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:24:33pm

re: #276 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know what it means when you get a "blue screen error"?

Real bad- death

290 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:24:40pm

re: #276 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know what it means when you get a "blue screen error"?

End of the world.

291 HelloDare  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:24:41pm

re: #279 ploome hineni

It was an attempt at sarcasm. I forgot the /.

292 CommonCents  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:24:48pm

Feb. 11, 2009 Obama: Caterpillar to rehire if stimulus passes

Mar. 17, 2009 Caterpillar to lay off 2,454 in 3 states

293 SteveC  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:25:08pm

Just hit the radio! (Turn it up, Stinky!)

Now look at them yo-yos thats the way you do it
You work the money for AIG
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Money for nothin and chicks for free
Now that aint workin thats the way you do it
Lemme tell ya them guys aint dumb
Maybe get a blister on your countin' finger
Maybe get a blister on your thumb

We gotta install microwave ovens
Custom kitchen deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs

Stinky's got it so loud the 747 from Tokyo thinks it landed in an earthquake!

294 Teacake!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:25:09pm

But he does look to dorkie to just happen to have that in his closet.

295 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:25:14pm

re: #278 Killgore Trout

Thanks again for all your work on the project.

Merci! But I must mention those who were a big part of this:
Ploome, the idea person
FlakMusic and Jaunte -
vxbush who proofread
and many others.

296 Eowyn2  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:25:30pm

re: #229 summergurl

Yes, and on Rush today Rush said the President of Catepillar said that he had been "used" by BO and never said those things...

I heard that he had refuted most of the contextual facts of the statements withing 24 hours of obamas retelling of the story. Laura I. had a blurb early one morning.

297 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:25:34pm

maybe with his bonus money he can afford to get some hair

298 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:25:50pm

re: #276 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know what it means when you get a "blue screen error"?

It's usually bad.

/bsod

299 oh_dude  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:25:53pm

Someone should pass this over to the Cuban-American community.

300 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:25:57pm

re: #263 Occasional Reader

Reposted from previous thread:

The Real AIG Outrage

Look over there! Shiny objects!

The politicians also prefer to talk about AIG's latest bonus payments because they deflect attention from Washington's failure to supervise AIG.

It is a head fake then, thanks for the link OR.

301 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:26:00pm

re: #241 yma o hyd

Didn't one of the superfluous British royalty go to a costume party as a Nazi awhile back? Mr Big here owes the same sort of apology.

302 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:26:04pm

re: #269 Occasional Reader

I think Cafferty and Andrew Sullivan have been huffing the same brand of model airplane glue.

I read it hoping it was sarcasm, but sadly not. LOSER! ! !

303 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:26:15pm

re: #268 redstateredneck

When the movie came out on tape, my older daughter WORE ME OUT playing it. I know all the songs and most of the dialogue!

I don't know about you, but that little girl's voice DROVE ME CRAZY!
I could not stand to listen to her sing.

304 jcm  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:26:20pm

re: #254 LGoPs

We should really be calling it the Community Reinvestment Act Program....known by its acronym CRAP.

You know how I keep saying it's all planned?

Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

ACORN, the new tip of the Cloward-Piven spear

In 1970, one of George Wiley's protégés, Wade Rathke -- like Bill Ayers, a member of the radical Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) -- was sent to found the Arkansas Community Organizations for Reform Now. While NWRO had made a good start, it alone couldn't accomplish the Cloward-Piven goals. Rathke's group broadened the offensive to include a wide array of low income "rights." Shortly thereafter they changed "Arkansas" to "Association of" and ACORN went nationwide.

[snip]

Mortgage Crisis

And now we have the mortgage crisis, which has sent a shock wave through Wall Street and panicked world financial markets like no other since the stock market crash of 1929. But this is a problem created in Washington long ago. It originated with the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), signed into law in 1977 by President Jimmy Carter. The CRA was Carter's answer to a grassroots activist movement started in Chicago, and forced banks to make loans to low income, high risk customers. PhD economist and former Texas Senator Phil Gramm has called it: "a vast extortion scheme against the nation's banks."

ACORN aggressively sought to expand loans to low income groups using the CRA as a whip. Economist Stan Leibowitz wrote in the New York Post:

305 Lee Coller  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:26:29pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

It is a funny pic but it is a 50's themed Cuban party so the shirt is kinda makes sense.

Sorry, the Cuba they're celebrating is the Cuba Che, Castro, and their buddies destroyed.

306 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:27:16pm

re: #260 Mr. Pizza

Sheesh how incredibly clueless and pathetic. Too bad the photo doesn't show who is on his right arm. It's probably just his sister in law.

Ashley Dupre?

307 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:27:31pm

This just in: Russian fist continues to be clenched.

308 jcm  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:27:45pm

re: #276 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know what it means when you get a "blue screen error"?

The Blue Screen of Death!

309 Teacake!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:27:49pm
reine.de.tout
Does anyone here know what it means when you get a "blue screen error"?

You can google that for info.

310 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:28:03pm

re: #306 brookly red

Ashley Dupre?

From one dork (Spitzer) to another?

311 joncelli  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:28:07pm

re: #263 Occasional Reader

This bit is critical:

"That's for sure, especially after March of 2005. The housing trouble began -- as most of AIG's troubles did -- when the company's board buckled under pressure from then New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer when it fired longtime CEO Hank Greenberg. Almost immediately, Fitch took away the company's triple-A credit rating, which allowed it to borrow at cheaper rates. AIG subsequently announced an earnings restatement. The restatement addressed alleged accounting sins that Mr. Spitzer trumpeted initially but later dropped from his civil complaint."
312 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:28:12pm

re: #301 nikis-knight

Didn't one of the superfluous British royalty go to a costume party as a Nazi awhile back? Mr Big here owes the same sort of apology.

Yeah, that was Prince Harry - next in line for the throne, after his dad.

LOL! There are folks who consider the whole line superfluous!

313 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:28:15pm

re: #284 Leonidas Hoplite

My daughter, 4, runs around the house singing Hard Knock Life. It's hilarious. When we're in the car she insists on it - and my son, 7, groans "Ugh! Again?! Can't we listen to something else?"

"No one cares for you a smidge
When you're in an or-pha-nage
It's a hard knock life...."
We love you Miss Hannigan....

314 jcm  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:28:34pm

re: #309 Teacake!

You can google that for info.

Not if you have a blue screen.....
Duh!

/// ;-P

315 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:28:35pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

Any head of a financial institution that wears commie t-shirts should immediately lose their job.

Well when Geithner gets thrown under the bus, maybe this fine fellow will be new treasury Secretary.

316 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:28:36pm

re: #307 Occasional Reader

This just in: Russian fist continues to be clenched.

And in the face of this, we are gutting our defense budget and weapons systems? That work for you all?

317 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:28:41pm
318 joncelli  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:28:51pm

re: #276 reine.de.tout

Cold boot and pray.

319 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:28:57pm

re: #307 Occasional Reader

This just in: Russian fist continues to be clenched.

"Why won't they unclench?"

- bho

320 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:29:07pm

re: #309 Teacake!

You can google that for info.

Not really?

321 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:29:44pm

re: #301 nikis-knight

Didn't one of the superfluous British royalty go to a costume party as a Nazi awhile back? Mr Big here owes the same sort of apology.

Prince Harry.

322 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:29:53pm

re: #272 reine.de.tout

Hi reine, can I use paypal to pay or is it just that lulu thing?

323 Sgt.Slappy  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:30:01pm

I prefer the moment in time my icon picture captures. In fact, all communists should look as relaxed and photogenic as Che does there.

324 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:30:01pm

re: #312 subsailor68

Yeah, that was Prince Harry - next in line for the throne, after his dad.

LOL! There are folks who consider the whole line superfluous!

William comes before Harry, not that it's any improvement.

325 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:30:45pm

re: #302 redstateredneck

I read it hoping it was sarcasm, but sadly not. LOSER! ! !

I got to paragraph 2 and had to stop.
The first paragraph just explained the Obama agenda.
The second...I guess September 11th never happened...

AAGGGGHHHHH!

326 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:30:46pm

re: #312 subsailor68

Yeah, that was Prince Harry - next in line for the throne, after his dad.

LOL! There are folks who consider the whole line superfluous!

Yes, but one of them is in Afghanistan getting shot at by his fellow citizens on a holiday Jihad, and I wanted to exclude him from my disdain... (Unless it's the same chap? I don't pretend to keep them straight.)

327 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:30:51pm

re: #322 turn

Hi reine, can I use paypal to pay or is it just that lulu thing?

I payed lulu with paypal (I think).

328 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:31:00pm
329 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:31:11pm

re: #307 Occasional Reader

This just in: Russian fist continues to be clenched.

Oh great, and Gates is announcing plans to trim our defense spending.

330 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:31:19pm

re: #324 scottishbuzzsaw

William comes before Harry, not that it's any improvement.

Oops. Sorry, my bad. Got 'em reversed.

331 SteveC  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:31:32pm

Gotta run - life calls!

May the Great One cause the sun to shine on each and every Lizard's rock!

332 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:31:55pm

Have a great evening SteveC!

333 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:31:57pm

re: #331 SteveC

Gotta run - life calls!

May the Great One cause the sun to shine on each and every Lizard's rock!

What a lovely benediction.

334 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:32:02pm

re: #314 jcm

Not if you have a blue screen.....
Duh!

/// ;-P

LOL!
I get the blue screen, turn off my computer, turn it back on and everything is copacetic for another month or so!

This computer is old, but I don't want to replace it until daughter goes off to college, because she completely screws up any computer she gets her hands on.

I can put up with a blue screen every month or so .

335 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:32:02pm

re: #329 turn

Oh great, and Gates is announcing plans to trim our defense spending.

Gut would be more accurate.

336 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:32:10pm

re: #295 reine.de.tout

I have a sauce recipe. Should I send it?

337 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:32:21pm

re: #301 nikis-knight

Didn't one of the superfluous British royalty go to a costume party as a Nazi awhile back? Mr Big here owes the same sort of apology.

Yep - it was the 'spare'*)!
He did that - photos splashed all over the papers - had to make excuses all round - baaad time for him!

*) 'spare': any aristocratic wife was/is expected to produce an heir and a 'spare' - so we're talking about Prince Harry!

338 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:32:33pm
Mr. Cuomo did not name the bonus recipients, but the numbers are eye-popping, given A.I.G.’s fragile state. The highest bonus was $6.4 million, and six other employees received more than $4 million, according to Mr. Cuomo. Fifteen other people received bonuses of more than $2 million, and 51 people received bonuses between $1 million and $2 million, Mr. Cuomo said. Eleven of those who received “retention” bonuses of $1 million or more are no longer working at A.I.G., including one who received $4.6 million, he said.
339 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:32:42pm

re: #322 turn

Hi reine, can I use paypal to pay or is it just that lulu thing?

I'm not sure how lulu.com lets you pay. I paid with a debit card for my book. Check their payment options.

340 J.S.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:32:48pm

re: #276 reine.de.tout

that's the "blue screen of death" -- have to note the error message which should also appear, then go to Microsoft's website and look it up in their database. (is that Windows XP?)

341 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:32:54pm

re: #336 Dianna

I have a sauce recipe. Should I send it?

YES YES YES YES YES.
Please.

342 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:33:12pm

re: #321 redstateredneck

Prince Harry.

I loved the quote on one of the British tabloids

Hitler Youth

343 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:33:13pm

I just popped in on a break. Looking at that smug, vacant face would make me throw up, but that would dishonor the Godiva candy bar I just ate.

He ain't worth it.

344 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:33:21pm

Via twitter an interview from John McCain, who supported the bailout, but is now bashing the AIG.
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

345 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:33:22pm

re: #307 Occasional Reader

This just in: Russian fist continues to be clenched.

"We just following instructions of red button you give."

346 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:33:22pm

re: #327 redstateredneck

I payed lulu with paypal (I think).

Oh, I guess I need to register lulu to just order the book then.

347 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:33:32pm

re: #334 reine.de.tout

LOL!
I get the blue screen, turn off my computer, turn it back on and everything is copacetic for another month or so!

This computer is old, but I don't want to replace it until daughter goes off to college, because she completely screws up any computer she gets her hands on.

I can put up with a blue screen every month or so .

Make sure everything important is backed up , because what your describing is going go to blue and not be retrievable on of these days.

348 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:33:39pm

re: #340 J.S.

that's the "blue screen of death" -- have to note the error message which should also appear, then go to Microsoft's website and look it up in their database. (is that Windows XP?)

Their website tells me to check my drivers.
I'll run everything one night. The blue screen only happens on occasion.

349 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:33:53pm

re: #310 Ward Cleaver

From one dork (Spitzer) to another?

Recession? what recession?

350 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:33:57pm

re: #329 turn

Oh great, and Gates is announcing plans to trim our defense spending.


Why spend the money on military equipment that your commander and chief doesn't have the balls to use?

351 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:34:12pm

re: #135 funky chicken

My Dad's a republican CPA, and he told me that the AIG guys should all be in jail. Apparently AIG was the company that pioneered the insane packaging and reselling of subprime mortgages or something.

How are their shenanigans any different than Enron? Like Enron execs, they should be tarred, feathered, jailed, and their families thrown out onto the streets, (or thrown onto their resort homes in Aspen or Palm Beach).

And then our sights should be set on Dodd, Frank, Raines, Gorlik, etc., etc.

352 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:34:18pm

Reine, did you see this troll recipe from a couple of days ago?

I hope you can put it in the next cookbook, in the humor section, of course.
I don't know how to get in touch with the lizard who posted it, though.

353 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:34:32pm

re: #346 turn

Oh, I guess I need to register lulu to just order the book then.

click my nic and click on the "buy book" icon (right side). It should bring you to the site where you can purchase it.

354 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:34:40pm

re: #348 reine.de.tout

Their website tells me to check my drivers.
I'll run everything one night. The blue screen only happens on occasion.

You probably have a device that is in conflict with Windows. Did you add anything recently?

355 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:34:44pm

re: #352 Kosh's Shadow

Reine, did you see this troll recipe from a couple of days ago?

I hope you can put it in the next cookbook, in the humor section, of course.
I don't know how to get in touch with the lizard who posted it, though.

Yes, I got it!
thanks!

356 Miss Molly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:34:50pm

Less money for defense spending and more money for ACORN!

357 debutaunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:35:00pm

re: #272 reine.de.tout

Important!

Click my nic for an update as to recent cookbook funds activity.
Also, click my nic if you still need to buy your cookbook! ! ! !

Thank you for dealing with all the details! Great cookbook!

358 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:35:04pm

re: #312 subsailor68

Yeah, that was Prince Harry - next in line for the throne, after his dad.

LOL! There are folks who consider the whole line superfluous!

No he's not!
Next in line after his Daddy, Prince Charles, is still Prince William!
Don't you go and mix up the family lines!

:-)))

359 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:35:14pm

re: #335 Nevergiveup

Ha!

360 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:35:15pm

re: #319 Ward Cleaver

"Why won't they unclench?"

- bho

Forgive the vulgarity, but perhaps because it's a proxy for other things that are clenched?

361 Suzette  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:35:45pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

It is a funny pic but it is a 50's themed Cuban party so the shirt is kinda makes sense.


A Cuban themed party doesn't necessarily mean a murderous imaged t-shirt to be worn.

362 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:36:00pm

re: #339 reine.de.tout

I'm not sure how lulu.com lets you pay. I paid with a debit card for my book. Check their payment options.

ok thanks, I'll go back. I was a bit disappointed to see only 86 copies sold.

363 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:36:04pm

re: #25 Ringo the Gringo

So this idiot is wearing a Che Guevara shirt at a party celebrating the era before Che and Fidel ruined the country!

In fifty years time people can go to a party wearing t-shirts with Gerry Pasciucco's face on it celebrating the era before Gerry Pasciucco ruined the country. Now that would be ironic.

364 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:36:13pm

re: #354 Nevergiveup

You probably have a device that is in conflict with Windows. Did you add anything recently?

I had to install an some sort of adobe flash thing to get the scrabble website to work right. I don't recall getting the blue screen before that.

Other than that - no, I've not added any devices or programs.

365 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:36:45pm

The names of prisoners Israel won't free

Givus us free.

Give uses free.

Give us free.

366 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:36:47pm

re: #358 yma o hyd

No he's not!
Next in line after his Daddy, Prince Charles, is still Prince William!
Don't you go and mix up the family lines!

:-)))

Hi yma!
Mea culpa! Gee, between you and scottishbuzzsaw, I really got taken to the woodshed on that one!

(Okay, yeah, I deserved it.)

:-)

367 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:36:56pm

re: #363 A Kiwi Infidel

...or Obama's face, before he ruined the country.

368 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:37:01pm

And I went to the link too. Very barf-worthy. I bet these doofus' play clothes would be a mortgage payment for us.

369 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:37:06pm

re: #358 yma o hyd

No he's not!
Next in line after his Daddy, Prince Charles, is still Prince William!
Don't you go and mix up the family lines!

:-)))

And Prince Harry then did go own to volunteer for combat duty in Afghanistan... so I cut the guy some slack for his stupid costume escapade.

370 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:37:28pm

re: #351 Russkilitlover

How are their shenanigans any different than Enron? Like Enron execs, they should be tarred, feathered, jailed, and their families thrown out onto the streets, (or thrown onto their resort homes in Aspen or Palm Beach).

And then our sights should be set on Dodd, Frank, Raines, Gorlik, etc., etc.

Cell mates for Bernie Madoff. 25 to life works.

371 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:37:36pm

re: #326 nikis-knight

Yes, but one of them is in Afghanistan getting shot at by his fellow citizens on a holiday Jihad, and I wanted to exclude him from my disdain... (Unless it's the same chap? I don't pretend to keep them straight.)

Ya got that wrong again.
Prince Harry was in A'stan, and is now in training to become a helicopter pilot.
His older brother, Prince William, has done that - and is now training to fly sea-rescue helicopters. He wants to work in the RAF sea rescue operations. Not exactly a cushy job.

372 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:37:47pm
373 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:38:01pm

re: #364 reine.de.tout

I had to install an some sort of adobe flash thing to get the scrabble website to work right. I don't recall getting the blue screen before that.

Other than that - no, I've not added any devices or programs.

Our srabble game is worth a little blue screen trouble every now and then!

374 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:38:09pm

re: #366 subsailor68

Hi yma!
Mea culpa! Gee, between you and scottishbuzzsaw, I really got taken to the woodshed on that one!

(Okay, yeah, I deserved it.)

:-)

"I saw somethin' nasty in the woodshed!" (Any "Cold Comfort Farm" fans here?)

375 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:38:46pm

re: #364 reine.de.tout

I had to install an some sort of adobe flash thing to get the scrabble website to work right. I don't recall getting the blue screen before that.

Other than that - no, I've not added any devices or programs.

Adobe Flash Player? They just released an update, to cope with a security vulnerability.

376 J.S.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:38:48pm

re: #348 reine.de.tout

that's bad news (generally speaking) -- there are drivers (drivers are the software which interacts with your hardware); (if any drivers "conflict", they could cause electrical circuitry problems (could ruin your motherboard -- the system will shut down if there's any, say, overheating). should go into the Device Manager and look for any yellow exclamation marks, then remove any driver which is causing the problems...

377 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:39:02pm

re: #374 scottishbuzzsaw

Love Joanna Lumley, didn't get to see CCF though.

378 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:39:16pm

re: #369 Occasional Reader

And Prince Harry then did go own to volunteer for combat duty in Afghanistan... so I cut the guy some slack for his stupid costume escapade.

Boyish hyjinks. Alcohol was probably also a factor.

379 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:39:40pm

re: #347 Nevergiveup

Make sure everything important is backed up , because what your describing is going go to blue and not be retrievable on of these days.

OK.
I have a "c" drive which is where I do everything.
I have a second hard disk (D) which is where I store photos and everything important.

Will my blue screen leave my d drive alone?

380 subsailor68  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:39:40pm

Well all, it's my night to hang out with a group of old vets who get together once a week for cold beer and hot stories. (Of course we've all told them over and over, so it's a little boring now.)

Hope everyone here has a terrific evening!

381 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:39:41pm

re: #370 funky chicken

Cell mates for Bernie Madoff. 25 to life works.

on a chain gang.

382 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:39:46pm

Has anyone ever heard a "rational" explanation why che imagery is so popular?

383 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:39:50pm

re: #377 chicago blonde

Love Joanna Lumley, didn't get to see CCF though.

She's brilliant in it, and has an unusual hobbie! (Or so says 'Snilla')

384 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:39:55pm

I also heard on the radio that Goldmann Sachs is making 6 figure "loans" to their executives because they can't cope with salary cuts ... I cursed at the radio. The reporter tried to sound sympathetic and they got some ass to try to make it sound like a tragedy that these bastards might have to downsize on their home in the Hamptons.

no words ..

385 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:40:07pm

re: #369 Occasional Reader

And Prince Harry then did go own to volunteer for combat duty in Afghanistan... so I cut the guy some slack for his stupid costume escapade.

Oh, that was the same fellow? Interesting. Well, I hear from ... I don't remember where, Yon maybe, that he's quite the humble arse kicker, so I'll count the earlier incident as foolishness of a pampered youth.

386 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:40:20pm

Gulf Scream
Fear and loathing in Riyadh--of Tehran.


A few weeks ago, an adviser to Iran's supreme leader called Bahrain Iran's 14th province. Not only did Bahrain react indignantly, but--more important--so did Saudi Arabia. For, even as a potential conflict between Iran and Israel grabs headlines, tensions have been building between Tehran and Riyadh. The Saudis fear both Iran's nuclear program and its expansionist agenda.
387 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:40:22pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

It is a funny pic but it is a 50's themed Cuban party so the shirt is kinda makes sense.

Er, it says it was a 40s themed party, actually. So this is kind of like wearing a Hitler T-shirt to a "Roaring Twenties" party.

388 Lee Coller  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:40:44pm

re: #382 Creeping Eruption

Has anyone ever heard a "rational" explanation why che imagery is so popular?

I think the rational explanation is that the left is irrational.

389 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:40:52pm

re: #148 scottishbuzzsaw

So should we have an anti-Rumspringa rite of passage?

Purity rings.

390 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:40:59pm

re: #382 Creeping Eruption

Has anyone ever heard a "rational" explanation why che imagery is so popular?

It started in the 60's protests. Revolution!

391 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:41:01pm

re: #366 subsailor68

Hi yma!
Mea culpa! Gee, between you and scottishbuzzsaw, I really got taken to the woodshed on that one!

(Okay, yeah, I deserved it.)

:-)

Don't worry!
Here, one can't escape the odd report and photo here and there about the Royals - that sort of info tends to stick in a corner of one's mind.

392 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:41:05pm

re: #373 redstateredneck

Our srabble game is worth a little blue screen trouble every now and then!

Yes, it is, even though vxbush DA SCRABBLE QUEEN wins just about every game BY MANY MANY POINTS>

It's fun anyhow.

393 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:41:30pm

re: #380 subsailor68

Well all, it's my night to hang out with a group of old vets who get together once a week for cold beer and hot stories. (Of course we've all told them over and over, so it's a little boring now.)

Hope everyone here has a terrific evening!

I'd rather eat a cold hot dog with you guys than caviar with Obama.
Tell them I said thanks for their service and protection.

394 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:41:42pm

re: #387 Occasional Reader

Should we give you a few minutes to catch up?

395 Diamond Bullet  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:41:49pm

OT: Amazon.com sued for Kindle patent infringement.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

396 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:42:11pm

re: #392 reine.de.tout

Yes, it is, even though vxbush DA SCRABBLE QUEEN wins just about every game BY MANY MANY POINTS>

It's fun anyhow.

Da Scrabble Queen put it on us with her 97 pointer last night.

397 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:42:14pm

re: #390 redstateredneck

It started in the 60's protests. Revolution!

And now? Do these dolts want to eat Octopus three fucking times a day?[channeling Tony Montana]

398 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:42:14pm

re: #378 redstateredneck

Boyish hyjinks. Alcohol was probably also a factor.

I'd never excuse that Nazi garb at the party either, but this is a grown, middle-aged man smirking at us. At this moment, this photo makes me angrier.

399 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:42:25pm

re: #392 reine.de.tout

Yes, it is, even though vxbush DA SCRABBLE QUEEN wins just about every game BY MANY MANY POINTS>

It's fun anyhow.

Mea culpa. [blushes]

400 debutaunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:42:28pm

re: #331 SteveC

Gotta run - life calls!

May the Great One cause the sun to shine on each and every Lizard's rock!

What the heck is all over my rock?

401 Unakite  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:42:36pm

re: #5 Honorary Yooper

I have to agree. These morons who think Che was cool need to read up on the real Che Guevera and what a sadistic, murderous asshole that he really was.

And coward, ultmately.

402 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:42:42pm

re: #376 J.S.

that's bad news (generally speaking) -- there are drivers (drivers are the software which interacts with your hardware); (if any drivers "conflict", they could cause electrical circuitry problems (could ruin your motherboard -- the system will shut down if there's any, say, overheating). should go into the Device Manager and look for any yellow exclamation marks, then remove any driver which is causing the problems...

OK, well it sounds like a fan is running all the time.
Indication of overheating?
I guess I'll need to bring it in to geek squad. I don't feel like trying to figure out what the prob is.

403 KingKenrod  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:42:53pm

Natasha Richardson brain dead?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

She was injured in a ski accident.

She is Liam Neeson's wife and Vanessa Redgrave's daughter.

404 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:43:00pm

re: #400 debutaunt

What the heck is all over my rock?


Unicorn droppings?

405 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:43:15pm

You hurt the ones that I love best and cover up the truth with lies.
One day you'll be in the ditch, flies buzzin' around your eyes,
Blood on your saddle....

Dylan

406 debutaunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:43:31pm

re: #339 reine.de.tout

I'm not sure how lulu.com lets you pay. I paid with a debit card for my book. Check their payment options.

They take Visa.

407 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:43:31pm

re: #369 Occasional Reader

And Prince Harry then did go own to volunteer for combat duty in Afghanistan... so I cut the guy some slack for his stupid costume escapade.

He did indeed - and it was one of your lot (Drudge, i think) who reported on it, disregarding the pleas of the British generals not to do so because they did not want the Talban to know about this.
So he had to be shipped home earlier than his battalion. He was not happy!

408 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:43:35pm

re: #387 Occasional Reader

Er, it says it was a 40s themed party, actually. So this is kind of like wearing a Hitler T-shirt to a "Roaring Twenties" party.

Well, that's when the progressives were interested in the German & Italian experiments in fascism, wasn't it?

409 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:43:39pm

re: #282 Nevergiveup

Testimony Before the House Committee on Un-American Activities
In 1953, Ball was subpoenaed by the House Committee on Un-American Activities because she had registered to vote in the Communist party primary election in 1936 at her socialist grandfather's insistence (per FBI FOIA-released documents in a declassified FBI file).[40] Immediately before the filming of episode 68 ("The Girls Go Into Business") of I Love Lucy, Desi Arnaz, instead of his usual audience warm-up, told the audience about Lucy and her grandfather. Arnaz quipped: "The only thing red about Lucy is her hair, and even that's not legitimate." Then, he presented his wife and she received a standing ovation from the audience.[16]

I guess pretty innocuous.

Back in later, and about to leave again:

Disconnected from Ball, just as a general FYI --back in the Depression, and during the Spanish Civil War, there were a lot of people who lined up with the Communist Party because of events of the day, but who parted company with the Communists after those events were over.

The Communists milked the Depression and Nazi support for Franco in order to make inroads into the liberal community and gain support. Any given person's support for "the Party" during this era should be taken in the larger context of that person's subsequent life, whatever that is.

/just sayin' ... it's a gray area

410 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:43:47pm

re: #397 Creeping Eruption

And now? Do these dolts want to eat Octopus three fucking times a day?[channeling Tony Montana]

They're reliving their misspent youth. And the kids have no fucking clue; they just think it's something cool...like a peace sign.

411 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:44:01pm

re: #383 scottishbuzzsaw

She's brilliant in it, and has an unusual hobbie! (Or so says 'Snilla')

I loved AbFab. I used to work with a crazy (in a good way) woman and we'd yell "SWEETIE DARLING!" to each other.

412 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:44:25pm

re: #407 yma o hyd

He did indeed - and it was one of your lot (Drudge, i think) who reported on it, disregarding the pleas of the British generals not to do so because they did not want the Talban to know about this.
So he had to be shipped home earlier than his battalion. He was not happy!


None of that matters.

He said [bigoted word].

413 Buck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:44:28pm

re: #382 Creeping Eruption

Has anyone ever heard a "rational" explanation why che imagery is so popular?

Did you want Rational, or Radical?

"Make the rich pay" is popular... until they grow up and get rich.... The exception is only if they get rich by screaming make the rich pay, then the irony is missed completely.

414 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:44:36pm

re: #394 Ben Hur

Should we give you a few minutes to catch up?

I did catch up. Saw plenty of replies to Killgore along the lines of "that doesn't excuse wearing the Che image", but none that pointed out that he got the decade wrong.

415 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:44:36pm

re: #384 funky chicken

I also heard on the radio that Goldmann Sachs is making 6 figure "loans" to their executives because they can't cope with salary cuts ... I cursed at the radio. The reporter tried to sound sympathetic and they got some ass to try to make it sound like a tragedy that these bastards might have to downsize on their home in the Hamptons.

no words ..

They're just not making it very easy to defend capitalism and the free market system, are they?

416 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:45:12pm

re: #392 reine.de.tout

Yes, it is, even though vxbush DA SCRABBLE QUEEN wins just about every game BY MANY MANY POINTS>

It's fun anyhow.

Your turn for fun, BTW.
;-)

417 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:45:34pm

re: #382 Creeping Eruption

Has anyone ever heard a "rational" explanation why che imagery is so popular?

A symbol of 60 revolutions, so the hippies sucked it up and its snowballed from there.

418 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:45:37pm

re: #414 Occasional Reader

I did catch up. Saw plenty of replies to Killgore along the lines of "that doesn't excuse wearing the Che image", but none that pointed out that he got the decade wrong.

Just pulling your chain.

419 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:45:44pm

re: #415 Russkilitlover

They're just not making it very easy to defend capitalism and the free market system, are they?

Easy to defend a free market if we had one. The free market would let these fuckers fail.

420 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:45:45pm

re: #361 Suzette

A Cuban themed party doesn't necessarily mean a murderous imaged t-shirt to be worn.

Not only that, the theme seems to be pre-Castro Cuba, and those who liked Cuba before Castro would be insulted by the Che t-shirt.
He either knows little or is an insensitive asshole, or both.

421 Ghost707  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:45:45pm

Before Che, Cuba was the Las Vegas of the Caribbean, post Che it has been Misery Island.

422 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:46:07pm

re: #403 KingKenrod

Natasha Richardson brain dead?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

She was injured in a ski accident.

She is Liam Neeson's wife and Vanessa Redgrave's daughter.

How awful. I'm sure the family is grieving. Prayers for them all.

423 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:46:13pm

re: #403 KingKenrod

Natasha Richardson brain dead?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

She was injured in a ski accident.

She is Liam Neeson's wife and Vanessa Redgrave's daughter.

Oh, no! That's awful! Article says she fell why taking a skiing lesson, and felt OK at first, then complained of a headache. I wonder what happened?

424 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:46:18pm

Lemmesee Now -

As I recall "El Che" was head of the Bank of Cuba for a time after the 1959 Revolution. Great job he did - what a model!

-S-

425 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:46:24pm

re: #403 KingKenrod

Natasha Richardson brain dead?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

She was injured in a ski accident.

She is Liam Neeson's wife and Vanessa Redgrave's daughter.

Tragic. I feel bad for Liam and the boys.

426 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:46:25pm

re: #377 chicago blonde

Love Joanna Lumley, didn't get to see CCF though.

Joanna Lumley is a-ma-zing!
Has anybody here seen 'Absolutely Fabulous', where she plays this drunken fashion editor?
A sceam!

She also campaigned to get the Gurkhas the right to stay in the UK, after their service. Her father was a Major, commanding one of the Gurkha battalions.

427 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:46:29pm

re: #417 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A symbol of 60 revolutions, so the hippies sucked it up and its snowballed from there.

All the more reason to burst their bubbles with a "Che's Dead, Get Over it" T

428 debutaunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:46:42pm

re: #382 Creeping Eruption

Has anyone ever heard a "rational" explanation why che imagery is so popular?

It annoys some people.

429 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:46:52pm

Serious question

Is Robert Gibbs mentally challenged?

430 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:47:16pm

re: #418 Ben Hur

Just pulling your chain.

Come the Revolution, you'll pay.

431 Pupdawg  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:47:43pm

re: #1 Creeping Eruption

Methinks that Che would have lined this guy up against the wall with all the others.

Are we surprised yet!

432 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:47:46pm

re: #416 redstateredneck

Your turn for fun, BTW.
;-)

done!

433 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:47:50pm

re: #411 chicago blonde

I loved AbFab. I used to work with a crazy (in a good way) woman and we'd yell "SWEETIE DARLING!" to each other.

LOL! "It's a Lacroix, sweetie darling, a LACROIX!"

434 J.S.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:48:04pm

re: #402 reine.de.tout

Fans need to be running all the time -- there's a fan over the CPU, and a general system fan (if any fan stops, you'll ususally have a meltdown...components fried)...(you could check pretty quickly by just going to the "Control Panel" (Start - Control Panel) -- then look for "Device Manager" -- double click on Device Manager -- just take a look -- if there's an exclamation point anywhere, then you'll have an idea as to what the problem is...)

435 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:48:07pm

OT
Lizard Mario posted this in the links (just waiting to be updinged). It's an hour long speech by Evan Sayet at the Heritage Foundation that's worth every second.
Hating What's Right: How the Modern Liberal Winds Up on the Wrong Side of Every Issue

He refers to an earlier speech, I have to find it now. Thanks Mario, great find!

436 debutaunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:48:11pm

re: #387 Occasional Reader

Er, it says it was a 40s themed party, actually. So this is kind of like wearing a Hitler T-shirt to a "Roaring Twenties" party.

Morons, all the way down.

437 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:48:14pm

re: #419 Creeping Eruption

Easy to defend a free market if we had one. The free market would let these fuckers fail.

Absolutely right. It's the lack of free market and capitalism that is getting us further up shit creek.

438 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:48:16pm

re: #407 yma o hyd

He did indeed - and it was one of your lot (Drudge, i think) who reported on it, disregarding the pleas of the British generals not to do so because they did not want the Talban to know about this.
So he had to be shipped home earlier than his battalion. He was not happy!

I recall the "leak", but not sure who did it. Shame on whoever it was.

439 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:48:30pm

re: #432 reine.de.tout

done!

Then I'm up!
BRB

440 shiplord kirel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:49:25pm

This capitalist pig needs to be re-educated.

As I have suggested before, bonuses for incompetent bailout executives should be limited to a new pair of work boots and cab fare to the Brooklyn Bridge. That way, they have two choices for doing the right thing.

441 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:49:35pm

re: #426 yma o hyd

re: #433 scottishbuzzsaw

I think my favorite eppy is the one where Eddie has surgery and hallucinates Richard E. Grant as her husband, and Lady Penelope...

442 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:49:48pm

re: #395 Diamond Bullet

OT: Amazon.com sued for Kindle patent infringement.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Security of electronic book files?

443 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:49:56pm

re: #426 yma o hyd

Joanna Lumley is a-ma-zing!
Has anybody here seen 'Absolutely Fabulous', where she plays this drunken fashion editor?
A sceam!

She also campaigned to get the Gurkhas the right to stay in the UK, after their service. Her father was a Major, commanding one of the Gurkha battalions.

I love "Absolutely Fabulous"! I laugh 'til I have tears.

Yma - there's another show - the Vicar of Dibley? do you know it?

444 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:50:20pm

re: #435 Taqiyyotomist

I remember that name. Either that speech, or the earlier one you refer to was a front page post on LGF about 2 years ago.
(That should narrow down your search.)

445 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:50:21pm

re: #425 Leonidas Hoplite

Tragic. I feel bad for Liam and the boys.

Yes, very sad.

446 debutaunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:50:25pm

re: #404 chicago blonde

Unicorn droppings?

It really doesn't look or smell like sunshine!

447 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:50:26pm

re: #434 J.S.

thanks!
I will do that right now.

448 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:50:37pm

re: #403 KingKenrod

Natasha Richardson brain dead?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

She was injured in a ski accident.

She is Liam Neeson's wife and Vanessa Redgrave's daughter.

[sudden expletive deleted, in embarrassment, out of respect]

*prayers* for her, Neeson, children and family!

449 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:51:27pm

re: #382 Creeping Eruption

Has anyone ever heard a "rational" explanation why che imagery is so popular?

Because he was a murderer and that makes him authentic. The shirt wearers (often) feel powerless and the shirts make their limp dicks feel a little bigger.

They'd be in the Jugend in a previous decade.

450 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:51:44pm

re: #446 debutaunt

It really doesn't look or smell like sunshine!

*hands Debutant a Clorox wipe for a nice clean rock*

451 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:51:56pm

re: #429 Shug

Serious question

Is Robert Gibbs mentally challenged?

Is that a rhetorical question?

452 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:52:13pm
453 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:52:23pm

re: #386 Kenneth

Gulf Scream
Fear and loathing in Riyadh--of Tehran.

So, whats this mean? Our friends, the Saudis Iranian overlords. (I will sleep better for this knowledge)

454 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:52:31pm

re: #441 chicago blonde

re: #433 scottishbuzzsaw

I think my favorite eppy is the one where Eddie has surgery and hallucinates Richard E. Grant as her husband, and Lady Penelope...

Its one series which goes from hilarity to hilarity.
Jennifer Saunders as moonbatty mom is just so spot on, its one scream after the other.
Gotta be one of the best comedy series, up there with Fawlty Towers and Father Ted (seeing that its St Patrick's Day!)

455 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:53:05pm

re: #449 Zimriel

Because he was a murderer and that makes him authentic. The shirt wearers (often) feel powerless and the shirts make their limp dicks feel a little bigger.

You know, I normally don't speculate on that, but looking at this doofuses' picture again...

And thanks for the laugh. Worth the tea on my keyboard. :)

456 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:07pm

re: #406 debutaunt

They take Visa.

I just used PayPal. Yeah! I'm looking forward to trying out all your recipes. For some reason I only got around to telling the turnwife about this cookbook just last night. She's really excited too (she's a french chef by training).

457 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:32pm

re: #434 J.S.

Fans need to be running all the time -- there's a fan over the CPU, and a general system fan (if any fan stops, you'll ususally have a meltdown...components fried)...(you could check pretty quickly by just going to the "Control Panel" (Start - Control Panel) -- then look for "Device Manager" -- double click on Device Manager -- just take a look -- if there's an exclamation point anywhere, then you'll have an idea as to what the problem is...)

No exclamation points.

458 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:35pm
459 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:37pm

re: #448 pre-Boomer Marine brat

[sudden expletive deleted, in embarrassment, out of respect]

*prayers* for her, Neeson, children and family!

I was reading recently that Neeson had come back to the Catholic Church several years ago.

460 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:38pm

re: #452 Iron Fist

Because the way to peace, like the way to properity, is to make everyone equal. Tear down the strong, tax the rich.
Never mind if the powerful are the most decent, or the rich the most productive (as a general rule).

461 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:45pm

re: #443 reine.de.tout

I love "Absolutely Fabulous"! I laugh 'til I have tears.

Yma - there's another show - the Vicar of Dibley? do you know it?

I certainly do!
That is Dawn French - her and Jennifer Saunders started out together as pair of comediennes.
Some great stuff, especially he chocolate addiction, teeheehee!
And all those parish council meetings ...

462 Hawaii69  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:55:04pm

re: #219 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Pasciucco was hired 3 months ago, after AIG crashed. He was hired specifically to oversee the winding down and closure of AIG's Financial Products unit.

Seems unlikely they were offering a hiring bonus under those circumstanses.

463 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:55:39pm

re: #393 SasquatchOnSteroids

I'd rather eat a cold hot dog with you guys than caviar with Obama.
Tell them I said thanks for their service and protection.

Don't forget Alouette's awesome hot dog chili sauce!

464 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:55:58pm

re: #454 yma o hyd

I LOVE Fawlty Towers. It's the little throwaway lines that get me, like telling the belligerent guest he can't make a Waldorf salad because he's fresh out of Waldorfs.

465 Silvergirl  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:55:59pm

I wonder how much Che Shirt Man got?

* The top recipient received more than $6.4 million;
* 22 individuals received bonuses of $2 million or more, and combined they received more than $72 million;
* 73 individuals received bonuses of $1 million or more; and
* Eleven of the individuals who received "retention" bonuses of $1 million or more are no longer working at AIG, including one who received $4.6 million

WSJ Article

The bailout shouldn't have happened in the first place, the WH is outraged about the bonuses when it's their own doing, but I still can't stomach these AIG jokers getting all this $$$$$$.

466 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:56:08pm

re: #461 yma o hyd

I certainly do!
That is Dawn French - her and Jennifer Saunders started out together as pair of comediennes.
Some great stuff, especially he chocolate addiction, teeheehee!
And all those parish council meetings ...

And the Dibley Bunny, and the fair where they thought they were getting Elton John - I bought videos of most of the episodes, I love it.

467 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:56:19pm
468 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:56:30pm

re: #463 Alouette

Don't forget Alouette's awesome hot dog chili sauce!

Is that in the book Alouette?

469 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:56:45pm

re: #461 yma o hyd

I certainly do!
That is Dawn French - her and Jennifer Saunders started out together as pair of comediennes.
Some great stuff, especially he chocolate addiction, teeheehee!
And all those parish council meetings ...

With the fellow who always says "nononononono...yes" or vice versa.

470 J.S.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:57:44pm

re: #457 reine.de.tout

hmm...my next step would be to go to Control Panel, double click on Administrative Tools (look for the "Event Viewer")...Look at the Event Viewer and any warnings recorded there...

471 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:57:45pm

re: #466 reine.de.tout

And the Dibley Bunny, and the fair where they thought they were getting Elton John - I bought videos of most of the episodes, I love it.

reine, if you like those shows AND can handle cartoons, may I suggest a show called "Home Movies" on DVD.

472 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:58:27pm

re: #449 Zimriel
Re: Che-worship

Watch that vid I just posted and it helps with questions like that. All stuff I knew but explained quite perfectly. The modern Liberal will invariably side with the tyrant, the evil, due to a lifelong habit of being indiscriminate. It's been ingrained in them from childhood, that to differentiate between right and wrong, good and evil, better and worse, winner and loser...is an evil thing, and so will inevitably side with the tyrant.

"That which is held in esteem qualifies to be their target. That which is held in disdain qualifies to be their mascot."

Y'all gotta watch this speech.

473 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:58:32pm

re: #341 reine.de.tout

OK. It's gone. Subject line will let you know it's from me.

474 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:00:04pm
475 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:00:24pm

re: #426 yma o hyd

Joanna Lumley is a-ma-zing!
Has anybody here seen 'Absolutely Fabulous', where she plays this drunken fashion editor?
A sceam!

She also campaigned to get the Gurkhas the right to stay in the UK, after their service. Her father was a Major, commanding one of the Gurkha battalions.


JL played the part of "Purdy", an arsekicking sidekick to John Steed (Patrick Macnee) in the uk series "The Avengers". I was young and impressionable back then and I thought she was hot hot hot

476 debutaunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:16pm

re: #464 chicago blonde

I LOVE Fawlty Towers. It's the little throwaway lines that get me, like telling the belligerent guest he can't make a Waldorf salad because he's fresh out of Waldorfs.

The writing and the delivery are perfect!

477 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:25pm

I am off to the open thread, later lizards.......

478 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:02:52pm

re: #476 debutaunt

The writing and the delivery are perfect!

Sorry before I go, this series was actually based on a real hotel that the Monty Python crew stayed at during filming. John Cleese couldnt resist the opportunity to the parody the hotel owner.

479 shiplord kirel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:03:21pm

re: #382 Creeping Eruption

Has anyone ever heard a "rational" explanation why che imagery is so popular?

Pop culture iconography. The beret, shaggy hair, defiant expression, and swarthy visage are a direct challenge to the media-industrial complex's standard (and false) portrayal of middle America. It is a perfect embodiment of "illusion of distinction" advertising, in which the objective is to portray slavish conformity as rebellion and individualism. This has been the central theme of the advertising industry, and therefore of mass media, since Doyle-Dane-Bernbach first developed it in the late 1950s. Essentially, Che was the new James Dean, but far more representative of the meme itself, Stalinist oppressor as societal rebel and free spirit being a perfect archetype for mass produced junk as personal symbol of individualism and distinction.

For much, much more on this history and methodology, see The Conquest of Cool by Thomas Frank. In documenting the connection between leftist politics and standard advertising tropes, Frank has produced the Rosetta Stone of media bias. That he is a noted lefty himself only enhances its credibility.

480 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:03:48pm

re: #471 OldLineTexan

reine, if you like those shows AND can handle cartoons, may I suggest a show called "Home Movies" on DVD.

Okey-dokey! Thanks.
I'm always looking for ways to get a good laugh.

481 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:03:57pm

re: #476 debutaunt

With John Cleese running around the whole time. Loved it.

I'm sneaking into the open thread. :)

482 Suzette  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:05:15pm

re: #420 Kosh's Shadow

Not only that, the theme seems to be pre-Castro Cuba, and those who liked Cuba before Castro would be insulted by the Che t-shirt.
He either knows little or is an insensitive asshole, or both.

That was what I was thinking. Pre-Castro. I think he is both knows little and is insensitive. A Flaming Fool.
/seems these fools think that anything Cuban you need to include the murderous Che. Spit on him.

483 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:05:24pm

re: #422 vxbush

Mont Tremblant said Richardson fell on a beginner's trail during a ski lesson and later reported not feeling well. "She did not show any visible sign of injury, but the ski patrol followed strict procedures and brought her back to the bottom of the slope and insisted she should see a doctor," said a statement from the resort.

Mont Tremblant spokeswoman Catherine Lacasse said Richardson was getting a private lesson and that she said she was fine at first.

"An hour later she said she didn't feel well. She had a headache, so we sent her to the hospital," Lacasse said. "There were no signs of impact and no blood, nothing."

Even minor head injuries can be very serious. They should have done a CT scan right away.

Don't get a minor head injury in Canada.

And wear a helmet while skiing, even if it looks dorky.

484 KingKenrod  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:05:29pm

re: #464 chicago blonde

I LOVE Fawlty Towers. It's the little throwaway lines that get me, like telling the belligerent guest he can't make a Waldorf salad because he's fresh out of Waldorfs.

Ha! Makes me want to re-watch the series right now. I literally think of that scene every time I eat a salad with apples or walnuts in it.

485 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:06:00pm

re: #382 Creeping Eruption

The face was photographed in the classic religious icon pose. Psychological tests have shown that people respond positively to almost any face in that pose & expression. It shouldn't surprise you that Obama's campaign material frequently uses that same iconic style.

486 MacGregor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:06:40pm

Most of these people inherited their money, were indoctrinated at college, and have no idea what hard work is. They're filled with guilt that there are actually those that do manual labor and don't have yachts. In a bizarre sense, this is why socialism is attractive to them.

487 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:07:15pm

re: #364 reine.de.tout

I had to install an some sort of adobe flash thing to get the scrabble website to work right. I don't recall getting the blue screen before that.

Other than that - no, I've not added any devices or programs.

Unless the error message can lead you directly to the device, then remove at a time till you find the offending device.

488 Right Brain  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:08:14pm

Wearing the T-Shirt of someone who would have shot him on site.

489 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:04pm

re: #453 A Kiwi Infidel

It means the Saudis are very much alarmed by the Iranian threat.

490 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:44pm

re: #487 Nevergiveup

Unless the error message can lead you directly to the device, then remove at a time till you find the offending device.

Ah, boy.

I thank you very much for your advice and patience.
But that's beyond my ken.
I think I need to take it in to an expert.

491 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:46pm

re: #479 shiplord kirel

Pop culture iconography. ...For much, much more on this history and methodology, see The Conquest of Cool by Thomas Frank. In documenting the connection between leftist politics and standard advertising tropes, Frank has produced the Rosetta Stone of media bias. That he is a noted lefty himself only enhances its credibility.

Yeah, but he's now in the Paula Klein league of kookery. His "The Wrecking Crew" is her "The Shock Doctrine" taken to domestic politics. Libertarians are eeeeevil!

492 powerplay  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:10:11pm

The 'chic' world of tryanny! How delightful!

493 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:11:30pm

re: #429 Shug

Serious question

Is Robert Gibbs mentally challenged?

I think he is.

494 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:11:30pm

re: #491 Zimriel

Naomi Klein, you mean.

495 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:11:46pm

re: #5 Honorary Yooper

I have to agree. These morons who think Che was cool need to read up on the real Che Guevera and what a sadistic, murderous asshole that he really was.

Coming in late here, but I strongly suspect that this jerk simply has no idea what that T shirt represents (had; by now he probably knows). If he did he wouldn't have worn it regardless of his personal opinions.

496 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:13:33pm

More on Che-worship.
Since Liberals don't discriminate, that is, since they view no culture, system of thought, government, no religion, idea, nothing at all is better than or worse than anything else (since to admit this, ever, would be committing the great sin of discrimination), then any of these systems which led to success must have done so by cheating. Therefore, the USA and Israel, for example, must have become the most successful systems on the planet in facet after facet, from indusry to ingenuity to happiness, by virtue of somehow cheating, because it couldn't POSSIBLY have been by virtue of the particular system, since it is preordained that no system is better or worse than any other. Every time they will side with and champion those systems which lead to failure, because they have to - that's how they've programmed themselves. INDISCRIMINATE is their kernal. With that prime directive they've painted themselves into a corner where they can ONLY side with the systems (and people who follow them) which lead to failure. "That which is held in disdain qualifies to be their mascot." Every time.

497 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:13:54pm

re: #494 Kenneth

Naomi Klein, you mean.

Sorry. The headline news today addled my brain a bit.

498 ladycatnip  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:13:58pm

He and his associates will be getting a little lesson in Che/Castro politics pretty soon - heard on the radio this morning that Obama wants to punish those in AIG who receive bonuses - up to 100% after the first $100,000.

499 itellu3times  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:15:04pm

So give this guy his seven-digit bonus already.

500 Achilles Tang  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:18:37pm

re: #276 reine.de.tout

Does anyone here know what it means when you get a "blue screen error"?

Not even Bill Gates knows, but what does he care?

Seriously, it means your PC crashed because of some internal conflict. The most common one, other than components or memory failing, is graphics driver incompatibilities with some software. An older PC may not be able to do what some graphics programs expect it to.

For example, my old notebook would often croak when running Google Earth and that was due to the ancient graphics board it had.

501 Pupdawg  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:19:20pm

Recipients of redistribution of wealth to the wealthy Che-style courtesy of Barack Obama and his Socialist Party of the new USSA...they will eventually run out of someone elses money like yours, mine, our children and grand childrens'.

502 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:19:52pm

re: #479 shiplord kirel

Pop culture iconography. The beret, shaggy hair, defiant expression, and swarthy visage are a direct challenge to the media-industrial complex's standard (and false) portrayal of middle America. It is a perfect embodiment of "illusion of distinction" advertising, in which the objective is to portray slavish conformity as rebellion and individualism. This has been the central theme of the advertising industry, and therefore of mass media, since Doyle-Dane-Bernbach first developed it in the late 1950s. Essentially, Che was the new James Dean, but far more representative of the meme itself, Stalinist oppressor as societal rebel and free spirit being a perfect archetype for mass produced junk as personal symbol of individualism and distinction.

For much, much more on this history and methodology, see The Conquest of Cool by Thomas Frank. In documenting the connection between leftist politics and standard advertising tropes, Frank has produced the Rosetta Stone of media bias. That he is a noted lefty himself only enhances its credibility.

Thanks for taking the time.

503 Wilderstad  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:21:22pm

re: #35 zombie

They have a party celebrating pre-communist Cuba -- and the guy wears a Che shirt to it? Che, the guy who destroyed any remnant of pre-communist Cuba? What -- is this guy an idiot? Apparently so. The hypocrisy and head-exploding irony of his shirt is totally lost on this fool. It's the equivalent of wearing a Hitler shirt to a Holocaust Remembrance Day event.

Ding, ding,ding!
We have a winnah!

504 Pupdawg  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:21:35pm

re: #499 itellu3times

So give this guy his seven-digit bonus already.

I want my MSMTV...money for nothing and his Che for free!

505 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:24:48pm

re: #500 Naso Tang

Not even Bill Gates knows, but what does he care?

Seriously, it means your PC crashed because of some internal conflict. The most common one, other than components or memory failing, is graphics driver incompatibilities with some software. An older PC may not be able to do what some graphics programs expect it to.

For example, my old notebook would often croak when running Google Earth and that was due to the ancient graphics board it had.

OK, well time to upgrade, I guess.
Daughter got a mac, she loves it, I'm thinking of doing the same this time around.

506 Hawaii69  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:26:29pm

re: #504 Pupdawg

I want my MSMTV...money for nothing and his Che for free!

That's a bit presumptuous. Gerry Pasciucco was hired
by AIG only recently. His job: dismantle the Financial Products unit. He's didn't make the mess. He's just the cleanup crew.

507 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:28:08pm

re: #505 reine.de.tout

Hey reine, are you accepting recipes for the next cook book edition? If so, I would like to submit one or two.

508 Logic  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:28:26pm

Wow - they were just a few mile from where I work in Greenwich. [Cue "It's a Small World" song]


#116 Sifty:

1. All the murdered and oppressed human lives that savages like Che have destroyed.

Everyone should have a copy of this FREE poster!

509 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:29:44pm

Now I've seen everything. The man in charge of AIG Financial Products wearing a t-shirt of the mass-murderer, terrorist, and communist guerrilla, Che Guevara.

Of all things he represents AIG and show up like a dolt at this event wearing this while at the same time AIG is receiving criticism for using TARP money to line the pockets of their failing executives.

Perhaps this event was for a good cause but there didn't seem to be many Cubans at this event. I would like to see Gerry Pasciucco show up at an event in Little Havana wearing this t-shirt.

Clueless.

Gerry Pasciucco: KYS

510 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:31:23pm

re: #506 Hawaii69

I was gone awhile and checked back to leave reine a question. Hey, you're new! Welcome, and thanks for that important piece of information about this guy. I don't think he knew or cared about his choice of apparel, it simply seemed to fit the theme of the evening.

511 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:34:14pm

re: #89 CyanSnowHawk

He would wear a Stalin shirt to celebrate Czarist Russia.

OT: A friend of mine married a Hungarian man. One day, he came home from the grocery store, much disturbed, and asked "Why does American tea have Stalin's picture on it?"

"What the hell are you talking about?" she asked.

He took her to the Safeway and showed her the tea.

"Honey," she said, "That's Colonel Lipton."

512 jvic  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:39:26pm

re: #253 Nevergiveup Re: Lucille Ball

Yes but weren't there rumors she had left leanings. Ya know ran with the red crowd, and that is besides her hair?

Yes she did. She registered to vote as a Communist. So did a number of people who got misguided during the Great Depression.

From her 1953 FBI files:

The subject's file reflects no activities that would warrant her inclusion on the Security Index. The subject's file is being maintained in a closed status.

She donated to the Black Panthers (apparently to their 'breakfast program') in the 60s or 70s.

Draw your own conclusions.

The FBI files were very easy to google but it took me a fair amount of time to read them. A rumor is halfway around the world while the truth is looking for its boots?

513 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:40:35pm

OK, got the FEC screen up. This guy actually contributed to the Bush campaign in 2004 to the tune of $2000 and to McCain in 1999 for an amount of $1000. The rest of his history is purely Democratic candidates.

PASCIUCCO, GERARD

DODD, CHRISTOPHER J
VIA FRIENDS OF CHRIS DODD
12/15/2006 1000.00

OBAMA, BARACK
VIA OBAMA FOR AMERICA
01/28/2008 2300.00

LAMONT, EDWARD M
VIA NED LAMONT FOR SENATE
09/30/2006 1000.00

CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM
VIA HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT
07/20/2007 1000.00

DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE
04/30/2008 1000.00

DODD, CHRISTOPHER J
VIA CHRIS DODD FOR PRESIDENT INC
12/15/2006 1000.00

514 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:40:39pm

re: #98 Colonel Panik

I dare him to wear that shirt in a Cuban neighborhood in Miami.

Just stroll into Versailles, sit down, and order the ropa vieja--to go, since you will be leaving quickly...

515 Pupdawg  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:41:08pm

re: #506 Hawaii69

That's a bit presumptuous. Gerry Pasciucco was hired
by AIG only recently. His job: dismantle the Financial Products unit. He's didn't make the mess. He's just the cleanup crew.

That sounds even worse at taxpayers expense.

One of the newly-hired cleanup crew openly wearing a Che tee shirt at a "Fiesta Cuba" event does not sound too encouraging. I, may be wrong, but do assume more Cuban-Americans than not would be non-Che supporters. If you wear it, you bare/bear it, I believe. Mr. Pasciucco wore it.

I wonder, if he is a newly-hired hatchet man referred by or with any connection to the Obama administration?

516 looking closely  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:42:28pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

Any head of a financial institution that wears commie t-shirts should immediately lose their job.

Or. . .

Look forward to a senior position in the Obama administration.

517 Teacake!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:49:17pm
jcm
re: #309 Teacake!

You can google that for info.

Not if you have a blue screen.....
Duh!

/// ;-P

LOL, then how did s/he manage to ask us?

518 Teacake!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:50:54pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

The Blue Screen of Death (also known as a stop error, BSoD, bluescreen, or Blue Screen of Doom) is a humorous term used for the error screen displayed by some operating systems, most notably Microsoft Windows, after encountering a critical system error which can cause the system to shut down to prevent damage.

Bluescreens on NT-based Windows systems are usually caused by poorly-written device drivers or malfunctioning hardware. In the Win9x era, incompatible DLLs or bugs in the kernel of the operating system could also cause bluescreens.

Bluescreens can also be caused by physical faults such as faulty memory, power supplies, overheating of computer components, or hardware running beyond its specification limits. Bluescreens have been present in all Windows-based operating systems since Windows 3.1; earlier, OS/2 and MS-DOS suffered the Black Screen of Death, and early builds of Windows Vista displayed the Red Screen of Death after a boot loader error.

The term "Blue Screen of Death" originated during OS/2 pre-release development activities at Lattice Inc, the makers of an early Windows and OS/2 C compiler. During porting of Lattice's other tools, developers encountered the stop screen when NULL pointers were dereferenced either in application code or when unexpectedly passed into system API calls. During reviews of progress and feedback to IBM Austin, Texas, the developers described the stop screen as the Blue Screen of Death to denote the screen and the finality of the experience.[citation needed]

519 abolitionist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:52:48pm

re: #435 Taqiyyotomist


... It's an hour long speech by Evan Sayet at the Heritage Foundation that's worth every second. ...

Evan Sayet - HERITAGE FOUNDATION: 'How Modern Liberals Think' 48min

520 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:54:32pm

re: #497 Zimriel

We live in addled times.

521 zato  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:57:03pm

Here's a link to an article with excerpts from a recent book about the real Che Guevara.... not the made-up NY Times fictional character.

522 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:57:44pm

re: #489 Kenneth

It means the Saudis are very much alarmed by the Iranian threat.

Kenneth -

Which they very well should be. It was Kissinger's Plan and would have worked quite well had it not been for the 1979 "Khomeni Koup."

-S-

523 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:58:28pm

re: #507 turn

Hey reine, are you accepting recipes for the next cook book edition? If so, I would like to submit one or two.

You still here?
Yes, please send in whatever you want.

524 Ceemack  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:08:59pm

That t-shirt clashes horribly--both with his fiduciary responsibility to the stockholders and with his jacket.

525 DisturbedEma  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:12:31pm

re: #524 Ceemack

true that. . .and the contradiction between him, his status, and his shirt are making my head hurt. . .

526 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:17:46pm

Brainless.....as in brains of a carrot,

527 The Optimist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:55:07pm

I just came from Tijauna, Mexico. Cuban cigars (maybe fakes, I am not sure) were selling for $8 each. Cigars from other places such as the Dominican Republic are just as good or better but sell for a lot less. It is part of the Cuban cachet that is just like the Che picture.

Be aware that Raoul and Fidel Castro and his generals capture most of the foreign currency coming into Cuba. Do not buy anything Cuban.

528 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:01:21pm

Is that so? Well - AIG can rot. No wonder AIG and the democrat/socialist party are married.


PS- Stephen Colbert is a fascist. pass it on.

529 aaron's rantblog  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:08:37pm

Meet the contemporary Orren Boyle, who probably sends his kids to learn under Dr. Simon Pritchett.

530 wiffersnapper  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:23:42pm

I have a Che shirt. It reads below his head "This shirt brought to you by capitalism."

531 Viking6  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:24:18pm

Regardless of the position that this asshat took he is clearly unrefined and has no fashion sense. The party was representative of the pre-Fidelian times he should have been wearing a tight black suit and gold cufflinks, per the Mafia handbook.

/

532 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:45:05pm

re: #25 Ringo the Gringo

So this idiot is wearing a Che Guevara shirt at a party celebrating the era before Che and Fidel ruined the country!

Precisely. This guy has to be 99 44/100% brain-dead. It's like wearing a H***** shirt to a Bar Mitzvah.

533 jordash1212  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:45:17pm

Come back to me when that guy agrees to work for $1 this year.

534 MrC_5150  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:46:51pm

I noticed a "Lucy Ball" named in the crowd but it wasn't this woman.

Luuuuucy!

535 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:47:36pm

re: #35 zombie

They have a party celebrating pre-communist Cuba -- and the guy wears a Che shirt to it? Che, the guy who destroyed any remnant of pre-communist Cuba? What -- is this guy an idiot? Apparently so. The hypocrisy and head-exploding irony of his shirt is totally lost on this fool. It's the equivalent of wearing a Hitler shirt to a Holocaust Remembrance Day event.

You beat me to it, Zombie. And said it better.
BTW did you ever get the link I posted re Marvin Levant?

536 marsl  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:02:36pm

CAPTION OF THIS PHOTO:

Cool drink: FREE
T-Shirt of Che: 10 USD
Making a complete ass of myself: PRICELESS

537 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:36:03pm
538 zturlte  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:44:47pm

What an idiot this guy is, how can someone with intelligence be so ignorant. Che was Castro favorite and was killed in the Bolivian jungles left handless or fingerless to prove his death. He was in Bolivia to stir up the people and a jumping board to turn the whole continent Communist. Makes me want to puke to see this, I mean AIG would not exist under his system so how can you wear something that views you as a sympathizer?

539 Catttt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:12:37pm

I scrolled through that entire article and looked at each picture. I feel that part of my brain died as a consequence. I don't think I'm cut out for high society.

540 MPH  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:24:09pm

The end days of modern american douchebaggery are nigh.

541 rumcrook  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:38:48pm

the fact that this guy is so clueless, about the shirt he's wearing, at the party he is at, .........makes it apparent why AIG is in the toilet.

that isnt the only thing he's clueless about.

542 MacGregor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:41:42pm

re: #539 Catttt

Granted they're dysfunctional spoiled babies but they do give lots of charity to outfits like Family Centers. They deserve credit for that.

543 Harry Tuttle  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:15:06pm

re: #35 zombie

They have a party celebrating pre-communist Cuba -- and the guy wears a Che shirt to it? Che, the guy who destroyed any remnant of pre-communist Cuba? What -- is this guy an idiot? Apparently so. The hypocrisy and head-exploding irony of his shirt is totally lost on this fool. It's the equivalent of wearing a Hitler shirt to a Holocaust Remembrance Day event.

I agree. I think what we have here is a dumbass.

He was just been trying to get laid.

Not that that makes it better...

544 Catttt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:16:06pm

re: #542 MacGregor

Granted they're dysfunctional spoiled babies but they do give lots of charity to outfits like Family Centers. They deserve credit for that.

They get plenty of credit for their largesse, usually given while they enjoy their pleasures and preen their feathers. They also get tax breaks.

545 Catttt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:17:16pm

re: #543 Harry Tuttle

I agree. I think what we have here is a dumbass.

He was just been trying to get laid.

Not that that makes it better...

Um - the lady on his right is his wife. I don't think he had "getting laid" in mind, unless his wife was the target.

546 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:20:11pm

Like I have said before, and pissed off a lot of lizards. The shit in going to hit the fan. Don't believe me? I don't care. You can become another corpse I have to walk over. But just remember, that crew wants to screw the vets, but wants to make hippies very satisfied.

547 Harry Tuttle  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:25:35pm

re: #545 Catttt

Um - the lady on his right is his wife. I don't think he had "getting laid" in mind, unless his wife was the target.

Maybe yes, maybe no.

Dumbass either way.

548 Hawaii69  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:44:30pm

re: #515 Pupdawg

He was a Morgan Stanley Vice Chairman. Got hired in November.

549 razorbacker  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:56:53pm

Is the gentleman pictured above a closet commie, secure in the belief that 'when the revolution comes, man, we'll be in charge!'

Is he a typical product of public and higher education as it is practiced in our more prestigious Ivy League institutions and clueless about who Che actually was and what Che actually did?

Is he just some idjit going to a Cuba party with a theme of '40s Havana who is so ignorant as to not know that Che was still crapping his nappies in the '40s?

Does he perhaps think that the picture on his t-shirt is actually Desi Arnez just about to burst out with 'Babaloo'?

Any of the four scenarios is enough to disqualify him from being my banker. I'm old-school like that.

550 MacGregor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 8:17:20pm

re: #544 Catttt

The peeps in the photos are not the real hoi paloi. They're middle rung elite at best and they pay a lot of taxes. Also, most of those people, regardless of their self-absorbed achievement culture, would bend over backward to help a stranger in need.

551 razorbacker  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 8:48:13pm

re: #549 razorbacker

Looking at the photos again, I have another reason not to let this gentleman be my banker.

You're invited to the party and you're the only person to wear a t-shirt as outerwear?

552 Catttt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 9:19:09pm

re: #550 MacGregor

The peeps in the photos are not the real hoi paloi. They're middle rung elite at best and they pay a lot of taxes. Also, most of those people, regardless of their self-absorbed achievement culture, would bend over backward to help a stranger in need.

I know I sound pedantic, but I was, after all, a teacher. The hoi polloi are, literally, "the masses," not the elite. The common folk are the hoi polloi.

Also, saying they'd all bend over backward, or even that most of them would, to help a stranger is pointless. We can no more know if they would do that than we could know if they would all speed on the freeway or buy tofu. As individuals, they have no doubt varying degrees of positive and negative qualities, like every other group.

As individuals, I would take them such. My comment is aimed at them as a group. The mere fact that they like to get gussied up and show off at "look at me! I raised money" fundraisers is all we know about them as a group, and they annoy me as a group.

553 So?  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 9:40:03pm

Is he one of the 73 AIG dicks that received $1million in bonuses this year?

AIG should be sent to Dubai...forever.

554 UncleSam  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 9:42:37pm

You and your lefty scumbag brethren think you're so cool wearing a shirt featuring the portrait of a mass murderer.
Go to hell, you filthy, mindless scum.

555 grahamski  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 10:30:52pm

I looked up the word ASSCLOWN in thedictionary, and sure enough, there was a pic of this freak with his commie shirt on.

556 Westward Ho  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:35:11pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

Any head of a financial institution that wears commie t-shirts should immediately lose their job.

but not for posting the largest losses in corporate history.

557 Westward Ho  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 11:43:11pm

re: #15 Sifty

My last, fragile shreds of sympathy for these pricks have just fluttered away in the wind of their own making.

Fuck um. - Mr. Fenster


So you had sympathy for these **** who forced the company to pay them bonuses after being directly responsible for the greatest losses in corporate history but your sympathy evaporated after one was caught wearing a che tshirt! Would you still have sympathy for him if he were wearing a Milton Freidman Tshirt.

558 Westward Ho  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 12:16:23am

re: #556 Westward Ho

I will log out - Iron Fist rules - sorry for offending if I have offended.

559 pupdawg  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:00:49am

re: #548 Hawaii69

He was a Morgan Stanley Vice Chairman. Got hired in November.

Was Morgan Stanley's ship sinking before he left? They were in financial crisis as well as I recall.


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