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Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.

Isaac Asimov

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1 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:50:29pm

I'm getting a little annoyed at the US Senate and Us Congress. These unprincipled elected-for-life jerks and chickens haven't read the US Constitution or just don't care.

2 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:50:50pm

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?

3 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:51:29pm

re: #1 Conservative in Liberal Hands

I'm getting a little annoyed at the US Senate and Us Congress. These unprincipled elected-for-life jerks and chickens haven't read the US Constitution or just don't care.

Don't care.

4 Devil's Advocate  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:51:32pm

Chris Dodd is a Charlatan!

5 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:51:35pm

I'm sure Asimov would have hated Barney Frank

6 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:51:41pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?

I responded before: At least I didn't get smacked down in court this morning.

7 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:51:42pm

re: #1 Conservative in Liberal Hands

I'm getting a little annoyed at the US Senate and Us Congress. These unprincipled elected-for-life jerks and chickens haven't read the US Constitution or just don't care.

SHHH! Quiet! Or Harry Reid will introduce a bill making everything you, personally did last month illegal!

8 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:52:13pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?

My migraine is gone.

9 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:52:15pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

Since there appears to be no one here except us two, I do have some god news... It's 71 Degrees F and sunny in Chicago for St. Patrick's Day.

10 jcbunga  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:52:30pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?

Bassist and legendary funkologist Stanley Clarke was outstanding in concert last night.

11 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:52:36pm

there is a rumor that American Idol is "fixed"...this is a vicious, lowdown dirty lie and whoever spread this filth should burn in hell...no way, just no FUCKING WAY!...

12 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:52:38pm

From the last thread.

Serious question:

Is Robert Gibbs mentally challenged?
He reminds me of a severe head injury patient

13 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:52:44pm

Updings to the first three good newsers.

14 jcm  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:52:54pm
Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.

— Isaac Asimov

Ergo, everyone annoys Lizards.

15 outsidephilly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:53:23pm

re: #12 Shug

From the last thread.

Serious question:

Is Robert Gibbs mentally challenged?
He reminds me of a severe head injury patient


Why do you say that?

16 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:53:44pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?


I'm clean.

17 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:53:44pm

re: #13 Occasional Reader

Updings to the first three good newsers.

Obama can only serve a maximum of two terms

18 SpaceJesus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:53:47pm

I know exactly how you feel

19 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:53:51pm

re: #8 vxbush

My migraine is gone.

That IS good news! Don't you feel reborn after one of those fuckers finally dissipates?

20 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:53:57pm

re: #9 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Since there appears to be no one here except us two, I do have some god news... It's 71 Degrees F and sunny in Chicago for St. Patrick's Day.

And in Milwaukee - and, while having a few beers at lunch, I ran into my boss having a few himself.

21 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:11pm

re: #15 outsidephilly

Why do you say that?

Listen to him answer questions

22 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:17pm

Obama administration issues a scathing response to criticism from former Vice President Dick Cheney, calling him part of a "Republican cabal" and saying his economic advice should be ignored.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

23 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:17pm

re: #12 Shug

From the last thread.

Serious question:

Is Robert Gibbs mentally challenged?
He reminds me of a severe head injury patient

Be careful how you say that. You can compare Gibbs to my son and decide who has more challenges to deal with.

24 outsidephilly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:33pm

re: #18 spacejesus

I know exactly how you feel


You know exactly how who feels?

25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:35pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?

I think I've collected enough beer cans to get a pack of smokes. Yippie!

26 Jed 1899  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:40pm

Happy St Patrick's Day!
Green beer for all ye who will drink such nasty smellin horse urine.

27 jcbunga  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:50pm

"This economy is lost."
--Harry Reid

28 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:53pm

re: #13 Occasional Reader

Updings to the first three good newsers.

DOW is up...

29 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:54:58pm

re: #20 Creeping Eruption

And in Milwaukee - and, while having a few beers at lunch, I ran into my boss having a few himself.

Gee, That's good news. Did your boss buy you one, or did you buy them a wee dram?

30 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:55:07pm

re: #19 Russkilitlover

That IS good news! Don't you feel reborn after one of those fuckers finally dissipates?

Yes, but the medicine makes me so tired that I'll be pretty useless until tomorrow, about noon. Right now, I'm kind of this useless blob, sitting in a chair and posting on LGF because I have no brain cells available to think at work.

31 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:55:07pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?

I'm awake but, that Commie bastard is still in the Oval Office.

32 outsidephilly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:55:30pm

re: #21 Shug

Listen to him answer questions


yeah, it does seem he has a 'processing problem'

33 NortonPete  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:55:47pm

re: #22 notutopia

That was the last straw.
Obama... You are on your own...

34 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:55:55pm

re: #29 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Gee, That's good news. Did your boss buy you one, or did you buy them a wee dram?

I sent a round to his table.

35 jcm  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:56:06pm
36 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:56:20pm

re: #30 vxbush

Yes, but the medicine makes me so tired that I'll be pretty useless until tomorrow, about noon. Right now, I'm kind of this useless blob, sitting in a chair and posting on LGF because I have no brain cells available to think at work.

But at least you can focus your eyesight, sit upright, turn your head from side to side without tsunamis of nausea, and sip some tea, right?

37 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:56:44pm

re: #32 outsidephilly

yeah, it does seem he has a 'processing problem'

Yes, I mean no disrespect to people with legitimate mental problems, for whatever reason.

but in listening to him answer questions, he stammers, and seems to have a great difficulty formulating answers.

just not the person I would have speaking for my administration

38 MikeAlv77  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:56:48pm

re: #22 notutopia

Obama administration issues a scathing response to criticism from former Vice President Dick Cheney, calling him part of a "Republican cabal" and saying his economic advice should be ignored.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Wait, I thought I was part of the Republican cabal.. No, I'm an registered independent.. Darn, I'm missing out on my cabal check. Oh well, congress would just tax it at 100% anyway...

39 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:56:48pm

re: #34 Creeping Eruption

I sent a round to his table.

*Drink* and a gold star on your employee record.

40 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:56:58pm

re: #17 Shug

Obama can only serve a maximum of two terms

And when that's over, he'll never run for public office again.

WAB, on the other hand...

41 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:56:59pm

re: #12 Shug

From the last thread.

Serious question:

Is Robert Gibbs mentally challenged?
He reminds me of a severe head injury patient

He's just a big dope.

42 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:57:04pm

Downdinged my #7. Care to explain, "SoSilent"?

43 outsidephilly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:57:18pm

re: #30 vxbush

Yes, but the medicine makes me so tired that I'll be pretty useless until tomorrow, about noon. Right now, I'm kind of this useless blob, sitting in a chair and posting on LGF because I have no brain cells available to think at work.


So, you don't need brain cells to talk to your lizard friends?
//

44 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:57:21pm

re: #30 vxbush

Yes, but the medicine makes me so tired that I'll be pretty useless until tomorrow, about noon. Right now, I'm kind of this useless blob, sitting in a chair and posting on LGF because I have no brain cells available to think at work.

Imatrex? Ex-gf used to have migraines and take that. I don't know which wore her out more. Being sick, or the cure.

45 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:57:42pm

re: #36 Russkilitlover

But at least you can focus your eyesight, sit upright, turn your head from side to side without tsunamis of nausea, and sip some tea, right?

Actually, the worst part for me is light and sound. So when I'm in the midst of one, there isn't a cave close enough with soundproofing when I need it. So yes, I can look at my computer screen and not feel like I'm going to throw up. That's a very good thing.

46 joncelli  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:57:45pm

Maybe if I'm fiscally irresponsible in a sufficiently grotesque manner I can get a bailout. How about if I buy housing I can't afford and then use it to conduct financial transactions I don't understand? Then I'll be golden! That's the ticket...

47 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:58:02pm

Brilliant Obama diplomacy:

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — His meet and greet with the U.S. president was bumped to Saturday, and when the White House announced his official visit, they misspelled his name.

But when Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva becomes the first Latin American leader to sit down with President Barack Obama this weekend, he brings undisputed clout. ...

Silva aides said the trip was pushed forward from Tuesday because of the St. Patrick's Day holiday — making Latin America once again look like an afterthought. Then, the White House announcement misspelled his name as "Luis Ignacio" and put "Lula" — a nickname that decades ago became a legal part of the Brazilian leader's name — in quotes.

The White House quickly corrected the mistake.


Then again, when Obama was informed that two Brazillion soldiers were killed in Iraq, he was crestfallen. It was several minutes until he finally asked, in hushed tones, "Just how many are in a Brazillion?"

(joke, stolen from I don't remember where)

48 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:58:03pm

Oh, we have a terribly brave "stealth downdinger" on the loose, kids.

49 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:58:10pm

re: #42 Occasional Reader

Downdinged my #7. Care to explain, "SoSilent"?

/You need to listen very carefully . . .

50 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:58:24pm

re: #43 outsidephilly

So, you don't need brain cells to talk to your lizard friends?
//

Well, when it comes to the FNDT, everyone's drunk, so does it matter?

51 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:58:30pm

re: #33 NortonPete

It was befitting the topic of the post...

Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.

Cheney vs. Obama on the economy?
I go with Cheney.

52 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:58:45pm

re: #44 Creeping Eruption

Imatrex? Ex-gf used to have migraines and take that. I don't know which wore her out more. Being sick, or the cure.

No, that doesn't work for me anymore. I take a stronger version: Relpax.

53 outsidephilly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:58:50pm

re: #37 Shug

Yes, I mean no disrespect to people with legitimate mental problems, for whatever reason.

but in listening to him answer questions, he stammers, and seems to have a great difficulty formulating answers.

just not the person I would have speaking for my administration


He doesn't answer succinctly, that's for sure!

54 Pupdawg  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:59:01pm

re: #1 Conservative in Liberal Hands

I'm getting a little annoyed at the US Senate and Us Congress. These unprincipled elected-for-life jerks and chickens haven't read the US Constitution or just don't care.

The suddenly empowered Dems and their dim leader who are blindly following this piper into the abyss of euro-socialism, appeasement and abuse of the masses who put them in office...we little mice...as the elected Republican rats play a three blind mice act.

Could things possibly suck more? Yes, and they will!

55 rawmuse  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:59:11pm

I have never been mistaken, unless you count that one time I thought I was wrong, but wasn't.

56 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:59:20pm

re: #22 notutopia

Obama administration issues a scathing response to criticism from former Vice President Dick Cheney, calling him part of a "Republican cabal" and saying his economic advice should be ignored.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I watched that exchange and flipped out. It was another BLAME BUSH moment. It followed the exchange in which Gibbs said no one knew about the AIG bonus contracts until they read about them in the newspapers.

57 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:59:24pm

re: #47 nikis-knight

Then again, when Obama was informed that two Brazillion soldiers were killed in Iraq, he was crestfallen. It was several minutes until he finally asked, in hushed tones, "Just how many are in a Brazillion?"

It was circulated with Bush as the butt of the joke some years back, but the joke doesn't work with Obama. Who seriously believes he'd be crestfallen?

58 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:59:39pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?

My daughter turns 1 year old in three weeks.

59 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:59:40pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?


Free Guiness at Murphy's until 7.

60 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 12:59:55pm

re: #22 notutopia

Obama administration issues a scathing response to criticism from former Vice President Dick Cheney, calling him part of a "Republican cabal" and saying his economic advice should be ignored.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]


Republicans are the new Jews in the Age of the Obama.

Doomed to wander the wilderness for eternity.

Those who reject the Messiah will be mocked, libelled, etc.

I suspect some sort of Protocols to make its way out of the White House soon enough.

We've read the first part: Cheney's Invisible Political Assassination Squads.

61 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:00:11pm

re: #45 vxbush

Actually, the worst part for me is light and sound. So when I'm in the midst of one, there isn't a cave close enough with soundproofing when I need it. So yes, I can look at my computer screen and not feel like I'm going to throw up. That's a very good thing.

Light and sound is pure torture during a migraine. What do you take? I've tried a few "remedies" but found that an ice pack to the head for about 12 hours worked best. Everything else came with side effects and never even dented the pain.

62 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:00:16pm

good news!...
my Just For Men seems to be working!...I'm thrilled!

63 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:00:17pm

re: #48 Occasional Reader

Oh, we have a terribly brave "stealth downdinger" on the loose, kids.

But their dings speak volumes - loud and clear

64 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:00:18pm

re: #38 MikeAlv77

You're probably right. I have an inkling, everyone will get taxed on something before this stimulus is over.

65 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:00:30pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?

The local seasonal Dairy Queens are open for business!

66 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:00:37pm
67 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:00:52pm

re: #52 vxbush

No, that doesn't work for me anymore. I take a stronger version: Relpax.

Yikes. Glad you are feeling better - or at least its gone.

68 Diamond Bullet  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:00:58pm

Well, one silver lining is that Obama's incompetence is becoming widely known despite the pathetic covering/rationalizing attempts of the MSM. This suggests several possibilities, namely that 1) his incompetence is so huge and pervasive that it cannot be fully covered up, and/or 2) the MSM is losing more and more of its ability to cover for liberals as a general principle. Both are ultimately good in the long run, although as usual America will have to pay the price for liberal perfidy for a while first.

69 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:08pm

re: #42 Occasional Reader

Downdinged my #7. Care to explain, "SoSilent"?

Must've been the comma.

70 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:08pm

Oh.

I sent reine a recipe. I hope she got it.

Anybody who was wondering about the Tuscan beefsteak, reine now knows all about it.

71 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:17pm
72 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:18pm

re: #17 Shug

Obama can only serve a maximum of two terms

Funny, that's what we thought about Bloomberg.

73 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:28pm

re: #65 Ford_Prefect

The local seasonal Dairy Queens are open for business!

But enough about Folsom Street...

74 Killian Bundy  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:29pm

'Israel would attack Iran with missiles'

If Israel chose to take military action against Iran's nuclear facilities, it might opt not to send IAF jets on a mission but rather use its arsenal of medium-range ballistic missiles, a report published by the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) said Tuesday.

The Jericho III, Israel's most advanced version of its custom-designed ballistic missile, is capable of carrying a 1,000-1,300 kilogram conventional payload or a 750kg nuclear warhead over a distance of up to 7,000 kilometers. With a smaller 350kg nuclear warhead, the missle's range can be extended even further.

According to the NCIS report, 42 missiles would be enough to "severely damage or demolish" Iran's core nuclear sites at Natanz, Esfahan and Arak.

Not quite as sporting a plan as sending the planes.

/can you just imagine the howling?

75 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:30pm

re: #64 notutopia

You're probably right. I have an inkling, everyone will get taxed on something before this stimulus is over.

If there's ever a common sense tax, most of us here are screwed.

76 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:31pm

re: #62 albusteve

good news!...
my Just For Men ENZYTE seems to be working!...I'm thrilled!

77 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:35pm

Driving lesson on runway, pilot averts crash

MANILA (Reuters) – A Philippine plane with 80 passengers aboard was seconds away from a crash when a man teaching his girlfriend to drive sped across the runway as the aircraft landed, newspapers reported Tuesday.

Gotta stop blowing those yield signs, hun.

78 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:43pm

re: #65 Ford_Prefect

The local seasonal Dairy Queens are open for business!

all the canales in ABQ are open and flooded...a sure sign of srring

79 NortonPete  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:49pm

re: #51 notutopia

I recall the VP debate of 2000, Dick Cheney slayed Edwards. A very good use of time.

80 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:01:54pm

re: #76 Ben Hur

not as thrilled as Mrs Hur

81 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:02:03pm

He that speaks much, is much mistaken.
Benjamin Franklin

82 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:02:28pm

re: #42 Occasional Reader

Downdinged my #7. Care to explain, "SoSilent"?

I thought s/he'd either read "don't care" and thought that was rude, or else fatfingered the minus...

83 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:02:39pm

re: #56 MandyManners

They are so full of shite.

84 outsidephilly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:03:00pm

re: #65 Ford_Prefect

The local seasonal Dairy Queens are open for business!


And THAT, my friend, is REALLY good news!

85 jcm  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:03:22pm

re: #42 Occasional Reader

Downdinged my #7. Care to explain, "SoSilent"?

Live's by it's nic...
1 Comment since it reg. in Feb. 09.

86 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:03:28pm

re: #75 Chicago Blonde

Hey, they'll tax intellectual property!

87 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:03:42pm

re: #65 Ford_Prefect

The local seasonal Dairy Queens are open for business!

is this another Folsom Street fair reference?

88 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:04:14pm

re: #82 Zimriel

I thought s/he'd either read "don't care" and thought that was rude, or else fatfingered the minus...

That was to #3 brooklyred, though. Yours came up later.

NINJA DING! HIII-YAAA!

89 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:04:26pm

re: #80 Shug

not as thrilled as Mrs Hur


I was *ahem* correcting HIS post..

Which would actually make your post all the more FUNNY!

LOL!

90 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:04:27pm

re: #79 NortonPete

I so miss Bush and Cheney.

91 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:04:28pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?

Ooh, ooh, I got another one. It's warm enough today to break out the BBQ and cook up some chicken feather kitten.

92 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:04:39pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?

The daughter's home for a few days after performances in the area. That's good.

93 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:04:41pm

re: #47 nikis-knight

Brilliant Obama diplomacy:


Then again, when Obama was informed that two Brazillion soldiers were killed in Iraq, he was crestfallen. It was several minutes until he finally asked, in hushed tones, "Just how many are in a Brazillion?"

(joke, stolen from I don't remember where)

Don't tell OR but, FCBBHO also said that Adriana Lima should lose some weight.

94 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:04:51pm
95 Big Steve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:05:15pm

The Dems said that the Bush White House was a "culture of corruption"...I think the Obama White House has become a "culture of incompetence"

96 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:05:16pm

I only post this so people can tell me what a dreadful recipe writer I am:

Tuscan Beefsteak:

Lay an oak fire. This is very important, and a step not to be missed. It won’t melt your Webber kettle, though the fire may prove harder to start than a charcoal fire.

The secret to this isn’t the steak. It’s the sauce. The secret to the sauce is to begin it once the fire is laid.

Begin with ½ shallot (moderately finely chopped) for every person, and garlic to taste; a teaspoon of minced ginger will also bring up the flavors. We tend to go overboard on the garlic front – about a teaspoon per person.

Sauté in butter until shallots become limp. You may – if your cholesterol is making your doctor frown at you – use olive oil instead.
Begin adding ¼ cup red wine per person (I suggest a fairly dry shiraz or softer cabernet – not merlot or zinfandel; I will hunt you down and administer twenty lashes with a wet noodle if you use a petite syrah or a pinot noir) and beef broth, about ½ cup per person.

Reduce and keep reducing; add a bit more wine and broth if it reduces past the point of serving everyone. Do not add any more shallots, though, or all you will taste is shallot.

The steaks should be about 1 inch thick, and grilled over the oak fire I told you to lay. Do not forget to begin the process with the steaks at room temperature. You may impress and terrify your friends by doing this over coals (about an hour and a half burn time) in your fireplace, should you have an actual wood-burning fireplace, instead of ye olde gas log. Just salt and pepper the steaks to taste, cook them to your desired degree of charring (I tend to favor fairly rare), then slice, spoon sauce over the meat and serve.

Generally, we accompany this with a pasta in cream sauce, with capers, smoked salmon and sun-dried tomatoes available to toss on top.

Get your vegetation from your salad; this is seriously disappointing when accompanied by veggies.

Dianna

97 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:05:21pm

re: #91 Slumbering Behemoth

Ooh, ooh, I got another one. It's warm enough today to break out the BBQ and cook up some chicken feather kitten.

I know peta is calling fish sea kitten, but are they really calling chicken feather kitten? If not, they should. That is too funny.

98 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:05:30pm

re: #57 Occasional Reader

It was circulated with Bush as the butt of the joke some years back, but the joke doesn't work with Obama. Who seriously believes he'd be crestfallen?

sigh... I probably told it wrong =P
But it works better with Obama because numbers orders of magnitude more than usual are in vogue nowadays.
And because I doubt he could name more than 3 allies who have troops in Iraq/Afghanistan sans teleprompter, while I expect Bush could tell you all of them without missing a beat.

99 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:05:38pm

re: #84 outsidephilly

And THAT, my friend, is REALLY good news!

back in college the local Dairy Queen owner would custom make whatever you wanted...then ask you "what's it worth to ya?" and I'd pay him accordingly...extra malt, extra chocolate...mmm

100 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:05:49pm

re: #91 Slumbering Behemoth

Ooh, ooh, I got another one. It's warm enough today to break out the BBQ and cook up some chicken feather kitten.

I don't know about "feather kitten". If tuna is the "chicken of the sea", wouldn't that make chicken "land tuna"?

101 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:06:07pm

re: #96 Dianna

"Secret's in the sauce"


/Fried Green Tomatoes

102 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:06:19pm

re: #100 Occasional Reader

I don't know about "feather kitten". If tuna is the "chicken of the sea", wouldn't that make chicken "land tuna"?

Better than Land Shark.

103 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:06:24pm

re: #95 Big Steve

The Dems said that the Bush White House was a "culture of corruption"...I think the Obama White House has become a "culture of incompetence"

With a tangy side of corruption thrown in!

104 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:06:28pm

re: #91 Slumbering Behemoth

Ooh, ooh, I got another one. It's warm enough today to break out the BBQ and cook up some chicken feather kitten.

Mmm...how 'bout pan-fried sea-kitten and a cold beer, eaten on the patio? :)

105 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:06:34pm

I thought I'd stop in and say Happy Saint Patrick's Day (it is also Saint Gertrude of Nivelles feast day and Gary Sinise's birthday).

106 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:06:38pm

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

I think I've collected enough beer cans to get a pack of smokes. Yippie!

I have down-dinged you coz smokin is bad for your health. (Now, go stand outside)

107 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:06:56pm

So long as I confine my thoughts to my own ideas divested of words, I do not see how I can be easily mistaken.
George Berkeley

108 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:07:02pm

re: #83 notutopia

They are so full of shite.

I got the feeling that the reporter questioning him didn't buy his explanations about the AIG bonuses.

109 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:07:07pm

re: #93 MandyManners

Don't tell OR but, FCBBHO also said that Adriana Lima should lose some weight.

Nah, he just wants her to do bicep curls. Lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of curls.

He likes his women that way.

110 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:07:07pm

re: #105 Joan Not of Arc

I thought I'd stop in and say Happy Saint Patrick's Day (it is also Saint Gertrude of Nivelles feast day and Gary Sinise's birthday).


It's LT. Dan's Birthday?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

111 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:07:08pm

Just spent the last 30 minutes arguing with someone who agreed with me, but couldn't get it thru their head I was agreeing with them

112 Wendya  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:07:11pm

re: #22 notutopia

Obama administration issues a scathing response to criticism from former Vice President Dick Cheney, calling him part of a "Republican cabal" and saying his economic advice should be ignored.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Ah yes, the candidate who received over 1.5 million in donations from the financial sector is going to lecture us on responsibility.

113 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:07:31pm

re: #102 scottishbuzzsaw

Better than Land Shark.

Candy-gram

114 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:07:36pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just spent the last 30 minutes arguing with someone who agreed with me, but couldn't get it thru their head I was agreeing with them

your wife called?

115 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:07:39pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just spent the last 30 minutes arguing with someone who agreed with me, but couldn't get it thru their head I was agreeing with them

My wife?

116 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:08:01pm

re: #97 Creeping Eruption

Naw, I came up with that all on my own, and I only killed five brain cells in the process.

117 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:08:11pm

re: #97 Creeping Eruption

I know peta is calling fish sea kitten, but are they really calling chicken feather kitten? If not, they should. That is too funny.

mmm kitten pita... ahhh...

118 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:08:24pm

re: #96 Dianna

Hey. I could at least see where it was going! I've read some recipes where ingredients for the sauce materialized after the sauce had been cooked, etc.

119 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:08:24pm

re: #101 redstateredneck

/Fried Green Tomatoes

I never saw it.

Yes, I know, I flunked pop culture 101.

Again.

120 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:08:30pm

re: #13 Occasional Reader

Updings to the first three good newsers.

Here's some good news, and it's good news, really for all of us:

We woke up breathing and alive today, and have a wonderful today to enjoy! Be happy for it.

121 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:08:34pm

re: #114 albusteve

your wife called?

re: #115 Nevergiveup

My wife?

You both beat me to it.

122 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:08:38pm

re: #114 albusteve

re: #115 Nevergiveup


LOL!

123 Big Steve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:08:42pm

re: #103 Dianna

With a tangy side of corruption thrown in!

yes...yes...and appetizer of waffles

124 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:08:46pm

re: #61 Russkilitlover

Light and sound is pure torture during a migraine. What do you take? I've tried a few "remedies" but found that an ice pack to the head for about 12 hours worked best. Everything else came with side effects and never even dented the pain.

I listed it above: Relpax, another triptan drug like Imitrex but much stronger. If I take a nap after I take it, I'm out for at least four hours.

125 joncelli  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:08:48pm

re: #115 Nevergiveup

My wife?

Nu? Suddenly we're in the Borsht belt?

126 jcbunga  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:08:49pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just spent the last 30 minutes arguing with someone who agreed with me, but couldn't get it thru their head I was agreeing with them

This is why I love my black lab. As long as I throw the tennis ball, we get along fine.

127 Gretchen  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:06pm

re: #1 Conservative in Liberal Hands

I'm getting a little annoyed at the US Senate and Us Congress. These unprincipled elected-for-life jerks and chickens haven't read the US Constitution or just don't care.

Well why would they read that outdated document - when they can't even be bothered to read the bills they write and pass?

128 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:11pm

re: #120 reine.de.tout

Here's some good news, and it's good news, really for all of us:

We woke up breathing and alive today, and have a wonderful today to enjoy! Be happy for it.

yaaay!...

129 outsidephilly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:11pm

re: #99 albusteve

back in college the local Dairy Queen owner would custom make whatever you wanted...then ask you "what's it worth to ya?" and I'd pay him accordingly...extra malt, extra chocolate...mmm


Several Dairy Queens around here have closed in the last three years SIGH

Lines are extremely long at ones that are still open, however, that doesn't deter me. I'll wait, patiently, for my DQ treat, anyday!

When I grow up I want to own my very own Dairy Queen?

130 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:23pm

re: #116 Slumbering Behemoth

Naw, I came up with that all on my own, and I only killed five brain cells in the process.

But you only had six left! ;>)

131 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:39pm

re: #121 Creeping Eruption

You both beat me to it.

Women in general sometimes have trouble taking "yes" for an answer. And now I will duck and hide.

132 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:40pm

re: #104 chicago blonde

I'm there!

/how long does it take to walk from CA to Chi-town?

133 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:48pm

re: #126 jcbunga

This is why I love my black lab. As long as I throw the tennis ball, we get along fine.

I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that, if reincarnation exists, I'd like to be a Labrador in my next life.

134 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:50pm

re: #114 albusteve

your wife called?

re: #115 Nevergiveup

My wife?

A co-worker who could not quite tell the difference between a vulnerability set, a port set and the differences on how they applied to network enterprise scanning. Last time she made a mistake, she brought down several sites

135 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:57pm

I've locked those memories of me and Dairy Queen away.

136 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:09:57pm

re: #112 Wendya

That is the best validation for O's responsibility of the day!

137 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:10:04pm

re: #74 Killian Bundy

'Israel would attack Iran with missiles'


Not quite as sporting a plan as sending the planes.

/can you just imagine the howling?


Would they actually use small nukes? If so, howling may not be an apt description.

138 Mike in Georgia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:10:06pm

My daughter came home from college for a visit last weekend.
She just wanted to come home for a visit and bring a car load
of dirty clothes for mother to wash. This is a girl that spent
fourteen years in a very good private school and got a scholarship.
When she was about ten, she could tell you what all the clothing
stores at the mall had.(price was irrelevant) Saturday morning
she went shopping and came home with a new pair of cowboy
boots. Sunday morning she left going back to school wearing
a very nice sun dress and cowboy boots. I really just don't
understand. Maybe it has something to do with school in
West Virginia.

139 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:10:11pm

re: #125 joncelli

Nu? Suddenly we're in the Borsht belt?

Lama lo?

140 joncelli  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:10:18pm

re: #126 jcbunga

What happens if you don't throw the ball?

141 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:10:21pm

We have mistaken the nature of poverty, and thought it was economic poverty. No, it is poverty of soul, deprivation of God's recreating, loving peace.
Thomas R. Kelly

What wild imaginations one forms where dear self is concerned! How sure to be mistaken!
Jane Austen

142 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:10:23pm

re: #115 Nevergiveup

My wife?

I had a conversation like that with Salamantis one night.

143 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:10:24pm

re: #118 chicago blonde

Hey. I could at least see where it was going! I've read some recipes where ingredients for the sauce materialized after the sauce had been cooked, etc.

I am actually writing up recipes as they are related to me, or as I related them to someone else. Which means I don't generally list the ingredients beforehand.

144 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:10:27pm

re: #129 outsidephilly

Several Dairy Queens around here have closed in the last three years SIGH

Lines are extremely long at ones that are still open, however, that doesn't deter me. I'll wait, patiently, for my DQ treat, anyday!

When I grow up I want to own my very own Dairy Queen?


May I have a Heath Blizzard, please?

145 Pupdawg  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:10:45pm

The ultimate goal of the current administration has to be to make all Americans hate America in essence converting the citizens into self-loathing Americans. Their campaign is in full speed.

It is almost impossible to understand why so many on the left hate the very essence of America or those typically unique American traits that define us as a nation. To what possible ends or purpose? Maybe, so others will hate us less or for us to mutually experience a full, clinch-fisted hatred for ourselves and our country? If true, that is so fucked-up it is a million light years beyond incomprehensible.

146 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:10:56pm

re: #135 Ben Hur

I've locked those memories of me and Dairy Queen away.

Shouldn't have left the key under the potted plant, though.

147 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:11:05pm

re: #123 Big Steve

yes...yes...and appetizer of waffles

Sliced in wedges, with fresh berries and cream!

148 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:11:07pm
149 outsidephilly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:11:10pm

re: #144 redstateredneck

May I have a Heath Blizzard, please?


comin' up -- would you like a lid with that?

150 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:11:13pm

re: #132 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm there!

/how long does it take to walk from CA to Chi-town?

LOL! Better jog, sweetie. Gonna be cold and rainy again tomorrow. Today? It's pushing 70 and the windows are open, with BlondeKitteh periodically wedging himself in the different sills.

151 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:11:19pm

re: #129 outsidephilly

Several Dairy Queens around here have closed in the last three years SIGH

Lines are extremely long at ones that are still open, however, that doesn't deter me. I'll wait, patiently, for my DQ treat, anyday!

When I grow up I want to own my very own Dairy Queen?

me and you both...there is better ice cream I guess but DQ is a part of my fat assed life...there are a few here in ABQ and I still do the Queen once in a while

152 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:11:20pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just spent the last 30 minutes arguing with someone who agreed with me, but couldn't get it thru their head I was agreeing with them

welkum to teh internets

153 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:11:30pm

re: #146 scottishbuzzsaw

Shouldn't have left the key under the potted plant, though.

Oh, I smoked that plant years ago, me ducky.

154 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:11:34pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just spent the last 30 minutes arguing with someone who agreed with me, but couldn't get it thru their head I was agreeing with them

have set a date?

155 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:11:53pm

re: #135 Ben Hur

I've locked those memories of me and Dairy Queen away.

Out with it, Ben, you needn't soft serve us.

156 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:12:12pm

re: #106 A Kiwi Infidel

I have down-dinged you coz smokin is bad for your health. (Now, go stand outside)

Who said I was gonna smoke 'em? I'm trading 'em for GM stock.

157 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:12:26pm

re: #143 Dianna

I could still follow it. That steak sounds good. Protein is a beautiful thing.

158 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:12:27pm

re: #149 outsidephilly

comin' up -- would you like a lid with that?

Naw, you don't get as much with a lid.

159 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:12:38pm

I guess everyone heard that the Obamas had the water in the White house fountain dyed green today. I wonder if this means they'll have it dyed red on May Day.

160 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:12:46pm

One of our local frozen treat places has the world's best orange sherbet!

161 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:12:51pm

re: #70 Dianna

Oh.

I sent reine a recipe. I hope she got it.

Anybody who was wondering about the Tuscan beefsteak, reine now knows all about it.

I got it!
thanks.

162 jcbunga  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:13:08pm

re: #140 joncelli

What happens if you don't throw the ball?

She stares at me.

Not just a casual stare...the did-the-eyes-in-the-painting-move-? kinda stare...an unblinking, riveting, unavoidable stare.

It's easier to just keep throwing the ball. :)

163 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:13:22pm

re: #148 buzzsawmonkey

Post-modern times prove too much for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.


Newspaper bites the dust.

well they wanted to save trees, it's all good.

164 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:13:23pm

re: #109 Occasional Reader

Nah, he just wants her to do bicep curls. Lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of curls.

He likes his women that way.

Must be part of his Mommy Complex.

165 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:13:24pm

re: #159 Mad Al-Jaffee

I guess everyone heard that the Obamas had the water in the White house fountain dyed green today. I wonder if this means they'll have it dyed red on May Day.

Don't they fill it with champagne every Wednesday?

166 outsidephilly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:13:35pm

re: #151 albusteve

me and you both...there is better ice cream I guess but DQ is a part of my fat assed life...there are a few here in ABQ and I still do the Queen once in a while


It IS the best ice cream, ever!

Goes right to my butt, also! (whatever, I just swim extra laps or kick my daily walk up a notch!)

167 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:13:40pm

re: #11 albusteve

there is a rumor that American Idol is "fixed"...this is a vicious, lowdown dirty lie and whoever spread this filth should burn in hell...no way, just no FUCKING WAY!...

Of course American Idol is fixed. Unless they bring out the guy with the briefcase from PriceWaterhouseCooperDeweyCheathamandHowe, I will never believe it's not fixed.

168 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:13:48pm

re: #138 Mike in Georgia

My daughter came home from college for a visit last weekend.
She just wanted to come home for a visit and bring a car load
of dirty clothes for mother to wash. This is a girl that spent
fourteen years in a very good private school and got a scholarship.
When she was about ten, she could tell you what all the clothing
stores at the mall had.(price was irrelevant) Saturday morning
she went shopping and came home with a new pair of cowboy
boots. Sunday morning she left going back to school wearing
a very nice sun dress and cowboy boots. I really just don't
understand. Maybe it has something to do with school in
West Virginia.

My daughter begged me to let her bridesmaids wear cowboy boots with their light blue silk short dresses. It was only for the cost that the idea didn't work out. Her husband is from Wyoming.

169 GGMac  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:14:19pm

'Afternoon, all -

Tea parties' coverage will be dwindling, so how's this for a way to keep the movement in the public eye: hang a "bouquet" of teabags on your car's rear view mirror!

Hubby is at Target for a box of teabags as we speak - those large size ones for making sun-tea!

Woot!

170 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:14:34pm

re: #161 reine.de.tout

I got it!
thanks.

Thank goodness.

171 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:14:42pm

re: #133 Occasional Reader

I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that, if reincarnation exists, I'd like to be a Labrador in my next life.

What about *that* trip to the vet?

172 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:14:59pm

OMG! Senator: AIG execs should 'resign, or go commit suicide'

May I respectfully suggest that the Hon Senator Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) do the same?

173 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:15:01pm

re: #130 scottishbuzzsaw

What's that saying? Couldn't rub two brain cells together if they were dogs in heat?

174 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:15:01pm

re: #162 jcbunga

She stares at me.

Not just a casual stare...the did-the-eyes-in-the-painting-move-? kinda stare...an unblinking, riveting, unavoidable stare.

It's easier to just keep throwing the ball. :)

Doggie telepathy. I know it well.

175 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:15:02pm

re: #145 Pupdawg

The ultimate goal of the current administration has to be to make all Americans hate America in essence converting the citizens into self-loathing Americans. Their campaign is in full speed.

It is almost impossible to understand why so many on the left hate the very essence of America or those typically unique American traits that define us as a nation. To what possible ends or purpose? Maybe, so others will hate us less or for us to mutually experience a full, clinch-fisted hatred for ourselves and our country? If true, that is so fucked-up it is a million light years beyond incomprehensible.

They are filled with hate in general and they project that onto America. And they want to be lazy and self-absorbed and self-indulgent, and anything that reminds them of their responsibilities makes them furious.

176 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:15:16pm
+178.73

Good news!

177 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:15:28pm

re: #160 jamgarr

One of our local frozen treat places has the world's best orange sherbet!

I think I've mentioned this before, but what the hay:

Years back, when I was at Mass one day with my family (yeah, that long ago), my dad later reported that he could hear the small child in the pew behind him, instead of reciting the intercessional "taste and see the goodness of the Lord", solemnly intoning "Tastee-Freez® the goodness of the Lord".

178 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:15:31pm

re: #160 jamgarr

One of our local frozen treat places has the world's best orange sherbet!

I love that stuff...go to some little resort town and stand in line...people watch and listen to the kids and tourists...it's not about the product it's about America

179 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:15:56pm

re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth

Who said I was gonna smoke 'em? I'm trading 'em for GM stock.


Because I believe you, you have an upding (I am in an upding-giving mood this morning)

180 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:16:02pm
181 outsidephilly  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:16:13pm

bbiab

182 itellu3times  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:16:15pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?

I saved 15% on my ... well no, actually I didn't.

183 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:16:19pm

re: #171 MandyManners

What about *that* trip to the vet?

Done young enough, he'll never know what he missed.

184 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:16:23pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader


200 protesters gather at George W. Bush's appearance in Calgary


CALGARY — About 60 Calgary police officers kept between 200 and 300 protesters at bay outside the building where former U.S. president George W. Bush was scheduled to make a speech.

The protesters were mainly peaceful, although one demonstrator was arrested when he tired to force his way into the building.

He shouted that Mr. Bush was a war criminal and claimed he wanted to make a citizen's arrest.

The good news part was in the last line. Silly moonbat.

185 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:16:26pm

re: #133 Occasional Reader

I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that, if reincarnation exists, I'd like to be a Labrador in my next life.

Like my new avatar? Meet newest Russkilitlover-dog.

186 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:16:30pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Good news!

Dead cat bounce.

187 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:16:36pm

re: #159 Mad Al-Jaffee

It's Eid already?

/very bad, Behemoth

188 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:16:37pm

Sources close to Tony-award winning actress Natasha Richardson tell FOXNews.com that the 45-year-old actress is brain dead, and being transported back to New York City before she is to be taken off life support.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I don't know anything about her really except she was in the Second Parent trap as the mom and she is married to Liam Nelsien. It's a shame.

189 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:16:42pm

re: #171 MandyManners

What about *that* trip to the vet?

He'll never even miss 'em. And it's so much kinder to the animal if you're not going to breed him.. He'll be relieved of all that unnecessary sexual frustration.

190 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:16:52pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Good news!


Obama at the podium about to speak

191 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:16:56pm

re: #180 buzzsawmonkey

The kind with a nice waggy tail, or the kind that lives in Canada and eats fresh salmon?

Can I say "both"?

192 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:17:03pm

re: #177 Occasional Reader

I think I've mentioned this before, but what the hay:

Years back, when I was at Mass one day with my family (yeah, that long ago), my dad later reported that he could hear the small child in the pew behind him, instead of reciting the intercessional "taste and see the goodness of the Lord", solemnly intoning "Tastee-Freez® the goodness of the Lord".


Reminds me of that old hymn:

You're losin' 'em
You're losin' 'em
Lift up your skirt and see
Your right, hose, Anna, is the highest
The left one is falling down your knee

193 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:17:03pm

re: #184 Kenneth


200 protesters gather at George W. Bush's appearance in Calgary

The good news part was in the last line. Silly moonbat.

You HAVE to think that these people are losers in ever other part of their lives to waste energy on something like this.

194 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:17:14pm

re: #185 Russkilitlover

Like my new avatar? Meet newest Russkilitlover-dog.

Handsome Puppy!

195 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:17:23pm

re: #171 MandyManners

What about *that* trip to the vet?

Ruh-roh...

196 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:17:41pm

re: #190 Shug

Obama at the podium about to speak

At least this time he waited for the markets to close.

197 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:17:50pm

re: #190 Shug

Obama at the podium about to speak

Oh No...someone stick a sock in his mouth.

198 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:17:54pm

re: #185 Russkilitlover

Like my new avatar? Meet newest Russkilitlover-dog.

Awww!

199 GGMac  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:18:02pm

re: #157 chicago blonde

I could still follow it. That steak sounds good. Protein is a beautiful thing.


Hi, chicago blond - did you paint your avatar? It's lovely.

200 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:18:09pm

re: #188 Nevergiveup

Sources close to Tony-award winning actress Natasha Richardson tell FOXNews.com that the 45-year-old actress is brain dead, and being transported back to New York City before she is to be taken off life support.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I don't know anything about her really except she was in the Second Parent trap as the mom and she is married to Liam Nelsien. It's a shame.

Oh, that's very sad. What a shame for her family.

201 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:18:12pm

re: #185 Russkilitlover

Like my new avatar? Meet newest Russkilitlover-dog.

Oh, want to pick up and snuggle puppy! He's precious!

202 That's Mr. President to you  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:18:21pm

Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.

— Isaac Asimov

I know exactly what that feels like.

203 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:18:24pm

The Che thread is on it's dead-thread deathbed, so I'll repost this in the OT

More on Che-worship.
Since Liberals don't discriminate, that is, since they view no culture, system of thought, government, no religion, idea, nothing at all is better than or worse than anything else (since to admit this, ever, would be committing the great sin of discrimination), then any of these systems which led to success must have done so by cheating. Therefore, the USA and Israel, for example, must have become the most successful systems on the planet in facet after facet, from indusry to ingenuity to happiness, by virtue of somehow cheating, because it couldn't POSSIBLY have been by virtue of the particular system, since it is preordained that no system is better or worse than any other. Every time they will side with and champion those systems which lead to failure, because they have to - that's how they've programmed themselves. INDISCRIMINATE is their kernal. With that prime directive they've painted themselves into a corner where they can ONLY side with the systems (and people who follow them) which lead to failure. "That which is held in disdain qualifies to be their mascot." Every time.

I think I understand.

204 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:18:36pm

ohhh, the pops are sweeter and the taste is new...
they're shot with sugar through and through...

bought 2 boxes today for 4 bucks...regressing

205 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:18:41pm

re: #190 Shug

Obama at the podium about to speak recite

206 jcbunga  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:18:44pm

re: #190 Shug

Obama at the podium about to speak

Sell! Sell!

207 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:18:45pm

re: #183 Dianna

Done young enough, he'll never know what he missed.

re: #189 redstateredneck

He'll never even miss 'em. And it's so much kinder to the animal if you're not going to breed him.. He'll be relieved of all that unnecessary sexual frustration.

I'm crossing my legs here.

208 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:19:03pm

re: #196 Creeping Eruption

At least this time he waited for the markets to close.

He that speaks much, is much mistaken.
Benjamin Franklin

209 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:19:14pm

re: #190 Shug

Obama at the podium about to speak


Oh boy...the sea beckons...

210 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:19:24pm

re: #169 GGMac

*gasp* Just what are those two lizards doing in your avatar?!?

211 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:19:30pm

I'd like to participate in the tea party theme by tea bagging the Congressional Democrats

212 chicago blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:19:31pm

re: #199 GGMac

Thank you! I WISH I could paint like that...I do paint some. I kill all flowers except the ones I paint.

213 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:19:41pm

re: #188 Nevergiveup

Sources close to Tony-award winning actress Natasha Richardson tell FOXNews.com that the 45-year-old actress is brain dead, and being transported back to New York City before she is to be taken off life support.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I don't know anything about her really except she was in the Second Parent trap as the mom and she is married to Liam Nelsien. It's a shame.

she crashed on a bunny hill which is nearly flat...something is missing here

214 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:19:44pm

re: #195 Occasional Reader

Ruh-roh...

Gotta' think things through.

215 UFO TOFU  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:19:49pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

My youngest step-daughter told us last weekend that she is expecting. That will be grandkid number seven.
I'm feeling kind of old for some reason.

216 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:20:03pm

re: #197 notutopia

Oh No...someone stick a sock in his mouth.

Think SNL would do a skit with Obama with a big sock in his mouth duck taped to a chair trying to reach a microphone and his teleprompters?

217 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:20:08pm

re: #185 Russkilitlover

Like my new avatar? Meet newest Russkilitlover-dog.


What a sweet face.

218 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:20:08pm

re: #210 scottishbuzzsaw

*gasp* Just what are those two lizards doing in your avatar?!?


WRESTLING! DON'T LOOK! !

219 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:20:25pm

re: #96 Dianna

Ok, I'm hungry, when's dinner?

220 GGMac  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:20:46pm

re: #190 Shug

Obama at the podium about to speak


Speak? When did he learn to speak?

221 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:20:54pm

re: #192 jamgarr

Reminds me of that old hymn:

You're losin' 'em
You're losin' 'em
Lift up your skirt and see
Your right, hose, Anna, is the highest
The left one is falling down your knee

I'll bet you sang that in the choir and, although there were suspicions, no one actually could quite make out what you were singing...

222 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:20:56pm

re: #215 UFO TOFU

My youngest step-daughter told us last weekend that she is expecting. That will be grandkid number seven.
I'm feeling kind of old for some reason.

{Paw-Paw}!

223 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:20:57pm
224 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:21:09pm

re: #190 Shug

Obama at the podium about to speak

BATTEN THE HATCHES! RIG FOR CRASH DIVE!

225 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:21:37pm

re: #213 albusteve

she crashed on a bunny hill which is nearly flat...something is missing here

Hit her head, felt fine, checked by a doctor at the site. Went back to her room, got a big headache. Concussion and slow hemorrhage.

226 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:21:40pm

re: #193 DistantThunder

You HAVE to think that these people are losers in ever other part of their lives to waste energy on something like this.

actually a lot of em get paid...

227 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:21:41pm

BO is an insidious bastard...he invades every friggin thread

228 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:21:45pm

re: #221 A Kiwi Infidel

I'll bet you sang that in the choir and, although there were suspicions, no one actually could quite make out what you were singing...


Moi?! Never!

229 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:21:47pm

re: #215 UFO TOFU

Mazal Tov

230 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:22:05pm

re: #207 MandyManners

I'm crossing my legs here.

I do sometimes wonder what our pets would say if we could ask them.

When I brought Her Highness home from her spaying, she looked up at me for a moment with a look that said, quite clearly, "Oh, Mom, I have the worst headache!" Then curled up in my arms and slept for hours. She never showed the slightest discomfort aside from the anesthesia hangover.

My Chelsea, though, cried all night.

The Goon (my corgi) seemed somewhat resentful for the first few hours, but got over it.

231 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:22:17pm

re: #220 GGMac

Speak? When did he learn to speak?


No speaking when traps have been laid...

232 ArmyWife  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:22:22pm

Drive by hello! Going to run, and then hop in the shower. Big doings tonight! St. Patrick's Day at the American Legion. Must support the 1SG, ya know!

233 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:22:28pm

re: #197 notutopia

Oh No...someone stick a sock in his mouth.

I'll have to take my shoe off first.

234 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:22:39pm

re: #213 albusteve

she crashed on a bunny hill which is nearly flat...something is missing here

Coordination?

235 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:22:45pm

re: #216 DistantThunder

Ieee! Duct. DUCT.

236 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:23:13pm

re: #192 jamgarr

I almost had to walk to the sink with a mouthful of coffee, couldn't swallow it I was laughing so hard!

237 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:23:14pm

re: #233 Zimriel

I'll have to take my shoe off first.

Throw the shoe!

238 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:23:16pm

re: #230 Dianna

I do sometimes wonder what our pets would say if we could ask them.

When I brought Her Highness home from her spaying, she looked up at me for a moment with a look that said, quite clearly, "Oh, Mom, I have the worst headache!" Then curled up in my arms and slept for hours. She never showed the slightest discomfort aside from the anesthesia hangover.

My Chelsea, though, cried all night.

The Goon (my corgi) seemed somewhat resentful for the first few hours, but got over it.

Shug, the leader of the dachshund pack, would still like to chew the vet a new one every time he sees him since his *operation*.

239 Big Steve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:23:22pm

WTF! Canada Science Minister is a creationist. I guess that Texas grade school curriculum is scurrying North...Canada Science Minister Might be Creationist

240 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:23:23pm

re: #225 DistantThunder

Hit her head, felt fine, checked by a doctor at the site. Went back to her room, got a big headache. Concussion and slow hemorrhage.

I read it...I just can't conceive of that type of injury...a snapped brain stem or what?...I'm wondering if there was a problem waiting

241 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:23:24pm

BBIAW

242 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:23:25pm

re: #219 Kenneth

Ok, I'm hungry, when's dinner?

When are you coming down? We'll have you and your wife over, if you are.

243 acwgusa  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:23:32pm

re: #233 Zimriel

I'll have to take my shoe off first.

Throw it at him. People apparently love that.

244 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:23:35pm

re: #213 albusteve

she crashed on a bunny hill which is nearly flat...something is missing here

I wondering if she has some underlying condition, such as a brain tumor or an aneurysm.

I'm praying for her and her family,

245 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:23:43pm

re: #224 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

BATTEN THE HATCHES! RIG FOR CRASH DIVE!

is board is dead red across the board. And certainly not shut.

?did I get that correct? Silent Service vets respond, please?

246 redstateredneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:23:55pm

re: #232 ArmyWife

Drive by hello! Going to run, and then hop in the shower. Big doings tonight! St. Patrick's Day at the American Legion. Must support the 1SG, ya know!

Remember; what goes in green comes out green.

247 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:23:57pm

re: #190 Shug

Obama at the podium about to speak

Wonder what the teleprompter will tell him to say?

248 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:24:00pm

re: #235 Slumbering Behemoth

Ieee! Duct. DUCT.

LOL - oops - I know it's duct tape - my mind is long gone.

249 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:24:01pm

re: #230 Dianna

I do sometimes wonder what our pets would say if we could ask them.

When I brought Her Highness home from her spaying, she looked up at me for a moment with a look that said, quite clearly, "Oh, Mom, I have the worst headache!" Then curled up in my arms and slept for hours. She never showed the slightest discomfort aside from the anesthesia hangover.

My Chelsea, though, cried all night.

The Goon (my corgi) seemed somewhat resentful for the first few hours, but got over it.

I got mad at the vet who lopped off the doo-dads on a cat I had a while ago. I thought he was gonna' just snip the tubes. Nope.

250 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:24:07pm

re: #193 DistantThunder

I always love the "citizens arrest" loonies. As if he could could put his hand on Bush and tell him,

"You're under arrest!"

"Sure dude, whatever you say. Where you taking me, straight to jail or back to your parent's basement?"

251 UFO TOFU  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:24:16pm

re: #229 Creeping Eruption

Mazal Tov

I had to look that up, but thank you most kindly!

252 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:24:18pm

re: #213 albusteve

she crashed on a bunny hill which is nearly flat...something is missing here

Something could have caused the crash, as opposed to the crash resulting in an injury.

253 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:24:21pm

re: #234 Dianna

Coordination?

yes...that too

254 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:24:22pm

re: #235 Slumbering Behemoth

Ieee! Duct. DUCT.

I see you're trying to scotch those tape name rumors.

/pun thread kickoff

255 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:24:50pm
256 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:25:13pm

re: #213 albusteve

I knew a guy who stripped on the sidewalk, hit his head & died. Freak accidents happen.

257 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:25:17pm

re: #213 albusteve

she crashed on a bunny hill which is nearly flat...something is missing here

If you fall the wrong way anything can happen? Was she an experienced skier?

258 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:25:33pm

re: #230 Dianna

One of our kittehs was fixed and declawed and when I came to pick her up the look on her face plainly said "I WILL get you for this." She did too - left gifts for me a half-inch outside the litterbox. That was a sarcastic cat.

Puppy was just thrilled to see us when we got him from the vet.

259 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:25:49pm

re: #255 ploome hineni


why do we been the UN?

Because someone set us up the bomb.

260 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:25:58pm

re: #257 Nevergiveup

If you fall the wrong way anything can happen? Was she an experienced skier?

On the bunny hill

261 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:26:00pm

re: #256 Kenneth

I knew a guy who stripped on the sidewalk, hit his head & died. Freak accidents happen.

a bunny hill full of snow is not a side walk...but I get your drift

262 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:26:00pm

re: #255 ploome hineni

why do we been the UN?


lolwut/

263 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:26:07pm

re: #254 Occasional Reader

I see you're trying to scotch those tape name rumors.

/pun thread kickoff

It's just stuck in my head.

264 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:26:23pm

re: #256 Kenneth

I knew a guy who stripped on the sidewalk, hit his head & died. Freak accidents happen.

? Stripping keeled him ?

265 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:26:31pm

re: #254 Occasional Reader

I see you're trying to scotch those tape name rumors.

/pun thread kickoff

Your evidence for that statement is invisible.

266 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:26:34pm

re: #249 MandyManners

I got mad at the vet who lopped off the doo-dads on a cat I had a while ago. I thought he was gonna' just snip the tubes. Nope.

You could get your kitteh some neuticles.

267 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:26:40pm

re: #248 DistantThunder

Yesterday I was proselytizing the virtues of The Holy Tape of Duct. I will not countenance your sacrilege!
///

268 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:26:40pm

re: #256 Kenneth

I knew a guy who stripped on the sidewalk

[cough]

269 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:26:48pm

re: #254 Occasional Reader

I see you're trying to scotch those tape name rumors.

/pun thread kickoff

Masking the truth.

270 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:26:49pm

re: #195 Occasional Reader

Ruh-roh...


LOL, oh nuts, that is going to suc.

271 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:26:57pm

re: #256 Kenneth

I knew a guy who stripped on the sidewalk, hit his head & died. Freak accidents happen.

Just because he got nekkid?

272 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:27:03pm

re: #216 DistantThunder

Think SNL would do a skit with Obama with a big sock in his mouth duck taped to a chair trying to reach a microphone and his teleprompters?


Never. They kiss the annointed one's ass every week. And any criticism of him is answered with a "Bush was worse" joke.

273 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:27:11pm

As we discussed in the last tea party thread; They become us as we become them...
Koskidz: Please help get this offensive image removed ...

Out of curiosity I recently signed up for the 'We Surround Them' website just to see what it's about (yes I am sometimes a masochist) ... that lead me to a Facebook group that was set up for the 'Nationwide Tea Party'. Once there I was astounded by an image that was posted to the group.

The image in question here:Photos from Nationwide Tax Day Tea Party. If you scroll through the images you'll find the controversial monkey/stimulus bill cartoon too. Of course they have the right to post these images but does it really help? Are "normal" people going to want to attend these protests? We've been criticizing offensive and outrageous protest material from the left for years. I guess it's their turn to criticise the right. So it goes.

274 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:27:40pm

re: #265 Chicago Blonde

Your evidence for that statement is invisible.

Are you implying that I'm two-faced? That I'm double-sided?

275 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:27:44pm

re: #253 albusteve

yes...that too

Sorry. I can't ski, and damn near did myself in trying not to ski into either a kamikaze four year old or a tree. I can see an accident happening very easily.

276 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:28:04pm

re: #257 Nevergiveup

If you fall the wrong way anything can happen? Was she an experienced skier?

I don't know..I have had some horrendous crashes but impact to the head is different...she fell the length of her body in snow...wth?

277 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:28:21pm

re: #255 ploome hineni

why do we been the UN?

If I were president, I would have thrown them out long ago.
The best idea out of McCain's campaign was his idea for a league of democracies. That alone made him better than Barack-suck-up-to-the-UN.
Interesting that every country 0 has asked to "unclench its fist" has used the unclenched fist to slap him in the face.

278 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:28:22pm

re: #188 Nevergiveup

Sources close to Tony-award winning actress Natasha Richardson tell FOXNews.com that the 45-year-old actress is brain dead, and being transported back to New York City before she is to be taken off life support.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I don't know anything about her really except she was in the Second Parent trap as the mom and she is married to Liam Nelsien. It's a shame.


Mother is Vanessa Redgrave.

279 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:28:30pm

re: #256 Kenneth

I knew a guy who stripped on the sidewalk, hit his head & died. Freak accidents happen.


Naked and dead, so sad.

280 GGMac  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:28:32pm

re: #210 scottishbuzzsaw

*gasp* Just what are those two lizards doing in your avatar?!?

They're getting ready for May Day celebrations - you know the one: 'Hooray, hooray, the first of May...outdoor screwing starts today!'

281 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:28:37pm

re: #273 Killgore Trout

Addendum: If that was a Dkos diary with a photoshop of Lieberman with an extra 'Jewy" nose you could guarantee we'd have a thread on it here at LGF.

282 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:29:10pm

re: #255 ploome hineni

...accused on Tuesday the United States of demonizing Iran's president and criticizes the International Criminal Court for issuing an arrest warrant for Sudan's leader for war crimes in Darfur.

...just fulfilling his duty as president of the 192-member General Assembly to uphold the UN Charter and promote peace and non-violence.

Because nothing promotes peace & non-violence like defending genocide.

283 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:29:32pm

re: #276 albusteve

I don't know..I have had some horrendous crashes but impact to the head is different...she fell the length of her body in snow...wth?

She could have had an anuerism which preceded or caused the fall. Not being an MD though, my opinion on this is less than worthless.

284 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:29:41pm

re: #274 Occasional Reader

Are you implying that I'm two-faced? That I'm double-sided?

That's a strapping question. :)

285 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:29:52pm
286 Shug  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:30:10pm

Teleprompter teleprompter on the wall
Who's the best reader of them all

287 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:30:13pm

re: #283 Creeping Eruption


It was one of Dick Cheney's ultra double secret assassination teams!

288 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:30:22pm

re: #283 Creeping Eruption

She could have had an anuerism which preceded or caused the fall. Not being an MD though, my opinion on this is less than worthless.

that's my guess as well...nothing to do with skiing

289 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:30:23pm

re: #264 notutopia

oh lord, what a typo!

"tripped"

290 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:30:31pm

re: #278 Ben Hur

Mother is Vanessa Redgrave.

Well I will not hold that against her

291 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:31:06pm

re: #276 albusteve

I don't know..I have had some horrendous crashes but impact to the head is different...she fell the length of her body in snow...wth?

If she tried to stay rigid, and snapped her head at the last moment, I guess that could lead to enough bruising, just due to force. But it's impossible to say from this remove.

We should simply stick with sympathy.

292 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:31:18pm

re: #284 Chicago Blonde

That's a strapping question. :)

My gaffer always tells me to try to be utterly transparent.

293 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:31:24pm

re: #289 Kenneth

It was precious.
:D

294 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:31:26pm

re: #280 GGMac

They're getting ready for May Day celebrations - you know the one: 'Hooray, hooray, the first of May...outdoor screwing starts today!'

*blush* Well! I never! (Okay, maybe...)

295 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:32:06pm

re: #30 vxbush

Yes, but the medicine makes me so tired that I'll be pretty useless until tomorrow, about noon. Right now, I'm kind of this useless blob, sitting in a chair and posting on LGF because I have no brain cells available to think at work.

Hiya, {vxbush}
I'm so glad your migraine went!
But regardless of taking medicine for it or not (I never could, I couldn't keep anything down) - one feels like a wrung-out wash rag afterwards, for 24 hours.
Nothing one can do about it except train the rest of the family to take over some of the usual chores ...

296 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:32:14pm

Lovely -

Iran has a foothold in Nicaragua.

297 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:32:24pm

re: #266 Dianna

You could get your kitteh some neuticles.

Wouldn't the dog laugh at him?

298 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:32:26pm

re: #281 Killgore Trout

It's disgusting. That kind of crap has no place in an honest movement.

299 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:32:36pm

re: #281 Killgore Trout

Addendum: If that was a Dkos diary with a photoshop of Lieberman with an extra 'Jewy" nose you could guarantee we'd have a thread on it here at LGF.

I don't know that Charles and Zombie want to to write off the whole movement as Ronulan kookery, yet.

But you are performing a valuable service shaming those clowns so they keep their yaps shut at the next rally. (If those of us who attend these things, which doesn't yet include me, are listening.) Keep posting about it here so that we don't have to read about it at Zombie's.

300 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:32:37pm

re: #288 albusteve

that's my guess as well...nothing to do with skiing


Sometimes at the lower part of the mountain, it can be icy, and easy to fall. If you fall back wards and hit your head on ice, it ain't pretty regardless of speed.

301 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:32:40pm

re: #273 Killgore Trout

Good god. Some of these photos are completely offensive and you're right. If they're in the same protest, be they Mobys or not, they must be disassociated with. Some of the images on that page are so offensive that I can't help but think they MUST be Mobys. Like someone's trying to put up material so offensive that the Media take notice and, say, get the public all riled up and demanding that the internet be censored. Who let the Klan in? G**damn f***ing slunts.

302 Andopolis  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:32:40pm

just looked at Drudge.. at first glance I thought this picture was from a Hamas march.

Image: oplu.jpg

303 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:32:52pm

Heard a snippet on Rush today, where Rush said: "Obama's teleprompter said today..."

Ah, yes. The Dems are viscious in their attacks, but so many conservatives are just darned witty.

304 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:33:00pm

re: #281 Killgore Trout

Addendum: If that was a Dkos diary with a photoshop of Lieberman with an extra 'Jewy" nose you could guarantee we'd have a thread on it here at LGF.

That's garbage. That cartoon had nothing to do with Obama.

305 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:33:04pm

re: #297 MandyManners

Wouldn't the dog laugh at him?

Ha!

Dogs know that the only safe time to laugh at the cat is when he's not present.

306 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:33:31pm

re: #278 Ben Hur

Mother is Vanessa Redgrave.

She looks like her in the eyes.

307 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:33:59pm

re: #292 Occasional Reader

I'm afraid my puns from this point on need mending.

308 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:34:08pm

re: #273 Killgore Trout

As we discussed in the last tea party thread; They become us as we become them...
Koskidz: Please help get this offensive image removed ...


The image in question here:Photos from Nationwide Tax Day Tea Party. If you scroll through the images you'll find the controversial monkey/stimulus bill cartoon too. Of course they have the right to post these images but does it really help? Are "normal" people going to want to attend these protests? We've been criticizing offensive and outrageous protest material from the left for years. I guess it's their turn to criticise the right. So it goes.


WTF?

Is there no moderator?

What about the one with McCain and the natives?!?

309 GGMac  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:34:10pm

re: #213 albusteve

she crashed on a bunny hill which is nearly flat...something is missing here

Reports are saying there was no visible injury, and that she was all right for an hour or so - then complained of headache. My limited medical knowledge wonders if it's a brain bleed of some kind.

?

310 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:34:14pm

re: #273 Killgore Trout

Compare with this racist cartoon. ...or this one.

311 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:34:23pm

re: #302 Andopolis

Behold, he holds aloft the Holy Plunger of Antioch!

312 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:34:28pm

re: #304 nikis-knight

edit: If it's the one that reads "Now who will write the stimulus bill?"
It was in response to the infinite monkeys at keyboards saying, and refering to the random nature of the bill.

313 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:34:35pm

Question - I changed my avatar, but my old one is showing up in the comments. But when I click on it, it's my new one. ?

314 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:34:48pm

re: #307 Chicago Blonde

I'm afraid my puns from this point on need mending.

Oh darn.

315 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:34:50pm

re: #308 Ben Hur

That's what I'm sayin. Good grief. Mobys?

316 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:35:08pm

re: #314 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh darn.

Lady, are you needling me?

317 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:35:10pm

re: #301 Taqiyyotomist

I have to ask, what is you definition of "slunts"? I have one, but it's not suitable for consumption here.

318 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:35:43pm

re: #285 buzzsawmonkey

Mother is wildly pro-"Palestinian" and anti-Israel Vanessa Redgrave.

FTFY.


I know.

She's a straight up anti-Semite.

319 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:35:47pm

I'm reminded of what happened to a Hoosier right before my son and I did a fly-in canoe trip in Ontario. The guy started having serious problems in the wild and they had to come pick him up with a float plane. Two days of universal health care later they sent him home telling him he had had a reaction to his medicine. Of course, it was back in Indiana that they discovered the aneurysm!

320 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:35:49pm

re: #304 nikis-knight

That's garbage. That cartoon had nothing to do with Obama.

Did you read my post before labeling it garbage? Tell me that photoshop of Obama's wife doesn't bare a striking resemblance to common racist imagery.

321 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:35:55pm
322 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:35:55pm

re: #299 Zimriel

I don't know that Charles and Zombie want to to write off the whole movement as Ronulan kookery, yet.

But you are performing a valuable service shaming those clowns so they keep their yaps shut at the next rally. (If those of us who attend these things, which doesn't yet include me, are listening.) Keep posting about it here so that we don't have to read about it at Zombie's.


Get a grip, one person posted a not so flattering picture and a cartoon and you want to throw the whole Tea Party organization under the bus?

323 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:35:59pm

re: #316 Chicago Blonde

Lady, are you needling me?

Just trying to make a point.

324 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:36:02pm

re: #313 Russkilitlover

Question - I changed my avatar, but my old one is showing up in the comments. But when I click on it, it's my new one. ?

You must have used the wrong spell when you tried to change it.

325 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:36:09pm

re: #271 Russkilitlover

Just because he got nekkid?

Must have been ass-fault

326 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:36:13pm

re: #247 newsjunkie_ky

Wonder what the teleprompter will tell him to say?

Whatever Skynet wants him to...

327 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:36:25pm

re: #317 Slumbering Behemoth

It sounds bad, don't it? Good. It's just a meaningless word that sounds, oh, so wrong. It means probably about what it sounds like it should mean. :)

328 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:36:31pm

re: #312 nikis-knight

There's more at that link than just that cartoon.

329 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:36:34pm

re: #308 Ben Hur

What about the one with McCain and the natives?!?


Which one? I didn't see that one.

330 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:36:35pm

re: #317 Slumbering Behemoth

I have to ask, what is you definition of "slunts"? I have one, but it's not suitable for consumption here.

Sounds like something Swift would've written about, doesn't it?

331 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:36:42pm

re: #273 Killgore Trout

As we discussed in the last tea party thread; They become us as we become them...
Koskidz: Please help get this offensive image removed ...

The image in question here:Photos from Nationwide Tax Day Tea Party. If you scroll through the images you'll find the controversial monkey/stimulus bill cartoon too. Of course they have the right to post these images but does it really help? Are "normal" people going to want to attend these protests? We've been criticizing offensive and outrageous protest material from the left for years. I guess it's their turn to criticise the right. So it goes.


There were several "below-the-belt" and offensive images there, including what looks like a distorted photo of Michelle Obama. Many of them seem to have been added by this one person:
Added by Anthony Ukrainian

No, they don't "help" at all, I agree with you.
But yes, "normal" people will attend these protests, I plan to attend one here. I did notice, in that file of images, that most of the posters being held by actual people were not hold-your-nose offensive at all. It seems to me this guy has collected a bunch of nasty images and is posting them anywhere he can.

332 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:36:46pm
333 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:37:14pm

re: #304 nikis-knight

That's garbage. That cartoon had nothing to do with Obama.

But it's now been through the media mill and its associations are no longer innocent. Holding that up in a protest is like going into a black forum and dropping words like "niggardly". It's trolling, pure and simple.

We're trying to influence people here, not alienate them.

334 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:37:21pm

re: #313 Russkilitlover

Question - I changed my avatar, but my old one is showing up in the comments. But when I click on it, it's my new one. ?

Refresh the page.

335 GGMac  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:37:24pm

re: #255 ploome hineni


why do we been the UN?


If we left the UN there would be no vote/veto to protect Israel, and she would rapidly become a..."once was a country known as..."

336 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:37:33pm

re: #185 Russkilitlover

Like my new avatar? Meet newest Russkilitlover-dog.

What a cutie! Boy? Girl? Name?

To see your new avie, refresh the whole page.

337 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:37:40pm

re: #308 Ben Hur

Dude, that's really bad.

338 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:37:40pm

re: #313 Russkilitlover

Question - I changed my avatar, but my old one is showing up in the comments. But when I click on it, it's my new one. ?

When in doubt reboot.

339 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:37:54pm

re: #324 notutopia

You must have used the wrong spell when you tried to change it.

I figured it had to be something mystical like that. 'Cause I'm usually such a wiz with any kind of electronics.
///

340 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:38:10pm

re: #329 Killgore Trout

Which one? I didn't see that one.


Right before the one you posted.

341 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:38:15pm

re: #323 scottishbuzzsaw

Just trying to make a point.

Ah, a perl of wisdom?

342 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:38:21pm

re: #332 wrenchwench

I told you I could raise one eyebrow...a little...

But her upper lip goes up when she raises her eyebrow!

343 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:38:35pm

OMG - I'm soo runnning behind this thread ...

344 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:38:41pm

re: #329 Killgore Trout

Which one? I didn't see that one.

scroll backwards.

345 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:38:54pm

Do people moderate facebook groups? Should this Tea Party org have decided on facebook as a place to host their thing? These are f***ing mobys I can feel it in my bones. Can the moderators of the site, who presumably (but who the hell knows) is sympathetic at the LEAST to the Tea Party cause, delete the images in question? There are more.

346 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:39:15pm

re: #320 Killgore Trout

Did you read my post before labeling it garbage? Tell me that photoshop of Obama's wife doesn't bare a striking resemblance to common racist imagery.


Yes, but, I can't go to the link from work.
The "that's garbage" was directed at the Kos post, but I guess now that it is about two images? I haven't seen one with Mrs. Obama and agree that she isn't relevant; but the "controversy" about the editorial cartoon featuring the mad monkey from NY as the author of the stimulus bill is nonsense, for the reason I explained above.

347 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:39:17pm

re: #332 wrenchwench

I told you I could raise one eyebrow...a little...

Eeee! Give a little warning next time, huh? :)

348 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:39:36pm

re: #331 reine.de.tout

There were several "below-the-belt" and offensive images there, including what looks like a distorted photo of Michelle Obama. Many of them seem to have been added by this one person:
Added by Anthony Ukrainian

No, they don't "help" at all, I agree with you.
But yes, "normal" people will attend these protests, I plan to attend one here. I did notice, in that file of images, that most of the posters being held by actual people were not hold-your-nose offensive at all. It seems to me this guy has collected a bunch of nasty images and is posting them anywhere he can.


And, probably a liberal to boot, just trying to stir up trouble.

349 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:39:37pm

re: #330 Chicago Blonde

I wouldn't know. I'm not that well read.

350 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:39:43pm

re: #340 Ben Hur

I hadn't planed on sending this topic to Charles but after your find it's clear that this is really bad.

351 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:40:27pm

re: #322 newsjunkie_ky

Get a grip, one person posted a not so flattering picture and a cartoon and you want to throw the whole Tea Party organization under the bus?

I agree with your denunciation of the way you misrepresented my post.

Please don't misrepresent my position in future, sport.

352 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:40:29pm

re: #346 nikis-knight

If you can't wont follow the links then maybe you should refrain from calling it garbage.

353 Empire1  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:40:44pm

re: #13 Occasional Reader

Updings to the first three good newsers.

It's on a personal level, but my youngest sister is coming in from Texas on Saturday for a visit.

Also, my seedlings are doing well, my "test" goldfish is still alive (which means I finally got my pond water correctly balanced!) and all four of us -- Mr. Empire, the four-leggers Sam and Frank, and I -- are doing fine.

354 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:41:00pm

re: #334 Dianna

Refresh the page.

Oh. Thanks. *Hangs head in embarrassment*

355 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:41:06pm

re: #350 Killgore Trout

I hadn't planed on sending this topic to Charles but after your find it's clear that this is really bad.

so what...it's done now, what more can be said about it?

356 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:41:09pm

re: #349 Slumbering Behemoth

I wouldn't know. I'm not that well read.

I never read him either but I remember a lit prof talking about Whinnies (sp?) and Yahoos. I just thought a "Slunt" sounded kinda like it could be a result of a bad blind date between the two...

/I'm tired today and it hit me funny, that's all.

357 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:41:20pm

Mobys are probably seeding their way through conservative groups all over the goddamn net, doing just that exact kinda shit. I f**ing hate dishonest POS nazi liberals.

358 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:41:47pm

re: #336 doppelganglander

What a cutie! Boy? Girl? Name?

To see your new avie, refresh the whole page.

Name: King John (after my fave British monarch).

359 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:42:06pm

re: #357 Taqiyyotomist

Mobys are probably seeding their way through conservative groups all over the goddamn net, doing just that exact kinda shit. I f**ing hate dishonest POS nazi liberals.

of course they are...it's a very soft target

360 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:42:16pm

Sylvester Stallone working out for The Expendables Role @ 62

361 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:42:27pm

re: #345 Taqiyyotomist

Do people moderate facebook groups? Should this Tea Party org have decided on facebook as a place to host their thing? These are f***ing mobys I can feel it in my bones. Can the moderators of the site, who presumably (but who the hell knows) is sympathetic at the LEAST to the Tea Party cause, delete the images in question? There are more.


Liberals find out about these groups and infiltrate to disrupt, the way trolls do on blogs.

362 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:42:29pm

re: #358 Russkilitlover

Name: King John (after my fave British monarch).

For a second I thought you were going to say King Ralph.

363 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:42:32pm

They said on FOX that guards are protecting the CONNECTICUT Offices of AIG. Hum, what about Dodd's Office? This guy is rapidly gaining the rep as the most corrupt incompetent Senator of them all. And that's saying alot!

364 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:42:36pm

re: #295 yma o hyd

Hiya, {vxbush}
I'm so glad your migraine went!
But regardless of taking medicine for it or not (I never could, I couldn't keep anything down) - one feels like a wrung-out wash rag afterwards, for 24 hours.
Nothing one can do about it except train the rest of the family to take over some of the usual chores ...

Now, if only I could train the cats to clean out their own litterboxes, we'd get somewhere! Some cats can be trained to use a toilet, but I seriously doubt one of mine would ever consider it. She's the diva and will be obeyed--not the other way around.

365 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:42:59pm

re: #358 Russkilitlover

He's so shiny and a beauty!

366 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:43:04pm

re: #360 Ben Hur

Sylvester Stallone working out for The Expendables Role @ 62


[Video]

what are Expendables?

367 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:43:07pm

re: #350 Killgore Trout

There's a Nirth Certifikit sign too.

368 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:43:15pm

re: #346 nikis-knight

You guys peaked my curiosity so I went back upthread to find out what you are arguing about. Take my word for it, that photo-shopped image of Michelle is way over the top.

369 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:43:31pm

re: #363 Nevergiveup

They said on FOX that guards are protecting the CONNECTICUT Offices of AIG. Hum, what about Dodd's Office? This guy is rapidly gaining the rep as the most corrupt incompetent Senator of them all. And that's saying alot!

Along those lines though, I thought I saw something yesterday regarding an investigation of Murtha earmarks. I'll have to poke around for it.

370 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:44:01pm

re: #352 Killgore Trout

If you can't wont follow the links then maybe you should refrain from calling it garbage.

I've seen the latter image you referenced already, and that's what I was refering to; I missed the word "too" from your post, which makes it seem like more of the Sharpton manufactured garbage.
But yes, I'm sorry for the premature evalutation of Kos wisdom.

371 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:44:02pm

Images were probably posted by the child of a Network News anchor. Or a congresscritter's kid. F***ing grr.

372 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:44:05pm

Here's a Nirther from the same photosteam.

The Tea Party's over with, folks. Everybody go home.

373 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:44:11pm

re: #364 vxbush

Now, if only I could train the cats to clean out their own litterboxes, we'd get somewhere! Some cats can be trained to use a toilet, but I seriously doubt one of mine would ever consider it. She's the diva and will be obeyed--not the other way around.

My 3 Siamese clean out their own litter box...all over the floor, and sometimes play kick ball with the dodi balls.

374 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:44:11pm
375 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:44:23pm

re: #356 Chicago Blonde

I never read him either but I remember a lit prof talking about Whinnies (sp?) and Yahoos. I just thought a "Slunt" sounded kinda like it could be a result of a bad blind date between the two...

/I'm tired today and it hit me funny, that's all.

My daughter in law loves to use the word "Brobdingnagian" - perhaps it's because she's only 5'1" tall and is surrounded by giants of Scottish heritage.

376 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:44:29pm
377 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:44:29pm

re: #363 Nevergiveup

They said on FOX that guards are protecting the CONNECTICUT Offices of AIG. Hum, what about Dodd's Office? This guy is rapidly gaining the rep as the most corrupt incompetent Senator of them all. And that's saying alot!

This plays into FCBBHO's hands. He needs a whipping boy to take the focus off of him.

378 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:44:40pm

re: #351 Zimriel

I agree with your denunciation of the way you misrepresented my post.

Please don't misrepresent my position in future, sport.

I didn't, 'sport'.

379 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:44:43pm

re: #367 wrenchwench

Yup, just found it. Bad news.

380 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:45:07pm

re: #372 Killgore Trout

Here's a Nirther from the same photosteam.

The Tea Party's over with, folks. Everybody go home.

Why?

381 CapeCoddah  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:45:32pm

Happy St. Patricks day everyone!

382 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:45:32pm

re: #299 Zimriel

I don't know that Charles and Zombie want to to write off the whole movement as Ronulan kookery, yet.

But you are performing a valuable service shaming those clowns so they keep their yaps shut at the next rally. (If those of us who attend these things, which doesn't yet include me, are listening.) Keep posting about it here so that we don't have to read about it at Zombie's.

I just "joined" that site and made a posting about those images. Maybe one of the admins will take notice.

383 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:45:33pm

re: #348 newsjunkie_ky

And, probably a liberal to boot, just trying to stir up trouble.


I'll bet dollars to dough-nuts you're right about that newsjunkie. Liberals have no morals.

384 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:45:35pm

re: #361 newsjunkie_ky

Liberals find out about these groups and infiltrate to disrupt, the way trolls do on blogs.

#322: "a not so flattering picture and a cartoon"

Commenters: *spank*

#361: "no! wait! it was TEH MOBIEZ!"

He's so cute. Can we keep him?

385 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:45:45pm

Sarah Jane Olson has been freed. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama freed her himself.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

386 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:45:52pm

re: #339 Russkilitlover

I figured it had to be something mystical like that. 'Cause I'm usually such a wiz with any kind of electronics.
///

Its a beautiful dog!
Name - age - gender?
Any particualr food preferences?

Love it!

387 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:46:00pm

re: #367 wrenchwench

There's a Nirth Certifikit sign too.

I knew they'd be there.

388 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:46:03pm

re: #379 Killgore Trout

Yup, just found it. Bad news.

you make too much from one sign...end the tea parties because of one sign?

389 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:46:05pm

Deadly Disdain, Deadly Denial About it: The Fate of Muslim Women

Sometimes, I despair of ever being able to convey the disdain for women that one may encounter in the Muslim world.

First, many Americans and Europeans simply do not want to believe it; they absolutely refuse to surrender their belief that all people are both “good” and the “same.” Some westerners do not think it is politically correct, or even polite to say so–especially if people really are “different.” Thus, for both reasons, westerners will deny the extent to which most women are despised, feared, controlled, and punished in the Muslim world. Some westerners also say: “Women are oppressed here as well. It’s racist to single out an entire culture and people for the ways in which women are mistreated everywhere.”

390 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:46:05pm

re: #380 MandyManners

Why?

Because there's some racists there, apparently, and no grown ups in charge.

391 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:46:25pm

re: #366 albusteve

what are Expendables?

Two answers:

1. A new film with Sly Stallone and a bunch of other action heroes.

2.

Rambo: I am expendable.

Girl: Rambo? What is "expendabrer?"

392 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:46:36pm
393 GGMac  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:46:41pm
394 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:46:42pm

re: #375 scottishbuzzsaw

My daughter in law loves to use the word "Brobdingnagian" - perhaps it's because she's only 5'1" tall and is surrounded by giants of Scottish heritage.

I'm 5'2" and my spouse, dad and brother were all over 6". Tell your DIL I've been there, done that.

/I'm part Scot but apparently, not in the height department.

395 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:47:07pm

re: #357 Taqiyyotomist

There is some of that (Moby-ing), to be sure, but it's too convenient to claim that every ugly thing out there that attaches itself to right-leaning ideology is from a Moby operative.

396 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:47:18pm

re: #391 Ben Hur

Two answers:

1. A new film with Sly Stallone and a bunch of other action heroes.

2.

Rambo: I am expendable.

Girl: Rambo? What is "expendabrer?"

I have no clue

397 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:47:20pm

tfk
When those pics become national Evening News items, and the msm and the public demand the immediate censorship of the net or the end of online anonymity or some way to shut us all the hell up, like Libs want to do more than they want to do anything else in the world...it will have seemed rather important, I think. Could just be me.

398 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:47:29pm

Obama's exploding cigar.

/It doesn't do to be bored on a Tuesday afternoon.

399 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:47:36pm

re: #381 CapeCoddah

Happy St. Patrick's Day to you too!

Have a Guinness...

400 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:47:40pm

re: #390 nikis-knight

Because there's some racists there, apparently, and no grown ups in charge.

So, take it back from them.

401 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:47:41pm

re: #372 Killgore Trout

Here's a Nirther from the same photosteam.

The Tea Party's over with, folks. Everybody go home.

Oh, just stop. You try to stir up trouble all the time.

402 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:48:12pm

re: #331 reine.de.tout

There were several "below-the-belt" and offensive images there, including what looks like a distorted photo of Michelle Obama. Many of them seem to have been added by this one person:
Added by Anthony Ukrainian

No, they don't "help" at all, I agree with you.
But yes, "normal" people will attend these protests, I plan to attend one here. I did notice, in that file of images, that most of the posters being held by actual people were not hold-your-nose offensive at all. It seems to me this guy has collected a bunch of nasty images and is posting them anywhere he can.

I hate to suggest it, but I would not be shocked to find the poster of those pictures is a leftie moon bat. Both sides have been known to leave a turd in the others punch bowl. Had the images been carried around on a sign, I'd expect a good conservative to speak up.

403 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:48:13pm

re: #372 Killgore Trout

Here's a Nirther from the same photosteam.

The Tea Party's over with, folks. Everybody go home.


From some of the Wall Posts:

I was just looking through the photos. There are some there that are really hold-your-nose nasty, and should be removed. We do ourselves no good if are seen as promoting that kind of offensiveness.

404 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:48:57pm

When they shut us all up like they want so very badly, then we won't be able to talk about kidnappings, Obama, ammo-taxes, or jack diddly, without tuning into LGF on the shortwave radio.

405 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:49:02pm
406 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:49:11pm
407 Russkilitlover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:49:21pm

re: #386 yma o hyd

Its a beautiful dog!
Name - age - gender?
Any particualr food preferences?

Love it!

King John, 12 weeks, male. Food preferences - anything of MINE that's leather.

408 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:49:34pm

re: #394 Chicago Blonde

I'm 5'2" and my spouse, dad and brother were all over 6". Tell your DIL I've been there, done that.

/I'm part Scot but apparently, not in the height department.

My son is 6'4"...they're sooo cute together!

409 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:50:03pm

re: #404 Taqiyyotomist

When they shut us all up like they want so very badly, then we won't be able to talk about kidnappings, Obama, ammo-taxes, or jack diddly, without tuning into LGF on the shortwave radio.

hello?...do you read me?...hello?

410 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:50:05pm

re: #384 Zimriel

#322: "a not so flattering picture and a cartoon"

Commenters: *spank*

#361: "no! wait! it was TEH MOBIEZ!"

He's so cute. Can we keep him?


Are you drunk?

411 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:50:15pm
412 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:50:17pm

re: #394 Chicago Blonde

I'm 5'2" and my spouse, dad and brother were all over 6". Tell your DIL I've been there, done that.

/I'm part Scot but apparently, not in the height department.

Wouldn't that make you part Scwot ?
I jest...

413 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:50:25pm

re: #388 albusteve

Nirthers, racists and Paulians! Oh, My!

Normal people will not attend these protests. If they do, they will only go once. Why should we excuse this shit? Why should we look the other way? For the "greater good"? I wouldn't attend counterjihad conferences that allow neo-nazis to participate, why would I endorse protests with racists and assorted other wackos. It's not an isolated incident. Nor was the racist monkey guy at the McCain rally or the woman in red telling McCain that Obama is a Muslim and can't be trusted.

414 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:50:37pm
415 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:50:49pm

re: #364 vxbush

Now, if only I could train the cats to clean out their own litterboxes, we'd get somewhere! Some cats can be trained to use a toilet, but I seriously doubt one of mine would ever consider it. She's the diva and will be obeyed--not the other way around.

If its any consolation - after a certain age the migraines do tend to fizzle out.

I shudder to think what would happen if I had one, and Madame needed to be let out ... but thankfully its years since the last one.

Not a nice thing to suffer from - and people who never had it may be sympathetic, bu they just do not understand the awfulness of it!

416 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:51:03pm

re: #409 albusteve

I really DON'T want to have to learn morse code.

417 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:51:06pm

re: #311 Kenneth

Behold, he holds aloft the Holy Plunger of Antioch!

OK, that was a plunger was it not?

418 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:51:27pm

re: #414 taxfreekiller

stand up fight back

your free or not,

chose

Get up, Stand up
Stand up for your rights

419 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:51:33pm
420 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:51:36pm

re: #22 notutopia

Obama administration issues a scathing response to criticism from former Vice President Dick Cheney, calling him part of a "Republican cabal" and saying his economic advice should be ignored.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

A little early for an administration to go into bunker-mode, don't you thing?

421 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:52:04pm

re: #401 newsjunkie_ky

Oh, just stop. You try to stir up trouble all the time.

Here come the folks who want to sweep this under the rug. Let's pretend nothing is going on and it'll all work out great, eh? Don't criticize right wing racists because they're on our side!
/great plan.
//

422 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:52:16pm

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Cmdr. David K. Rehbein of the American Legion, the nation's largest veterans group, called the president's plan to raise $540 million from private insurers unreasonable, unworkable and immoral.

"This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate 'to care for him who shall have borne the battle,' given that the United States government sent members of the Armed Forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies," Rehbein said late Monday after a meeting with the president and administration officials at the Veterans Affairs Department.

"I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service-connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America's veterans," Rehbein said.

Roberts said that 11 veterans service organizations were told to come up with another plan if they didn't like this one. The groups met on Monday with Obama, Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki and Office of Management and Budget defense spending chief Steven Kosiak.

"What we've been tasked with now is to raise this money through alternative means and we're supposed to have a conference call in two or three days ... with Rahm Emanuel. So the implication was ... you guys come up with a better idea or this is what's going to happen," Roberts said.

423 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:52:17pm

re: #420 unreconstructed rebel

think - crap

424 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:52:44pm
425 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:52:48pm

re: #420 unreconstructed rebel

A little early for an administration to go into bunker-mode, don't you thing?

Note to Obama admin: the election is over. Time to get to work.

426 gmsc  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:52:49pm

re: #420 unreconstructed rebel

A little early for an administration to go into bunker-mode, don't you thing?

It depends on what kind of things they know they need to hide.

427 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:53:34pm

re: #412 SasquatchOnSteroids

I jest...

Shirley?

428 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:53:36pm

re: #411 buzzsawmonkey

If someone is a never-ending scold, that's really Brobdingnaggin'.

LOL! I'm not going to share that with her, though...mothers-in-law have a bad reputation as it is.

429 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:53:46pm

re: #425 Kenneth

Note to Obama admin: the election is over. Time to get to work.


Au contraire! The last election is over. The next election is just beginning!

430 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:53:46pm

re: #421 Killgore Trout

It's a sure fire way to render one's self irrelevant.

431 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:54:09pm

re: #428 scottishbuzzsaw

LOL! I'm not going to share that with her, though...mothers-in-law have a bad reputation as it is.

If you think she's cute on your son's arm, she won the MIL jackpot.

432 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:54:24pm

re: #413 Killgore Trout

Nirthers, racists and Paulians! Oh, My!

Normal people will not attend these protests. If they do, they will only go once. Why should we excuse this shit? Why should we look the other way? For the "greater good"? I wouldn't attend counterjihad conferences that allow neo-nazis to participate, why would I endorse protests with racists and assorted other wackos. It's not an isolated incident. Nor was the racist monkey guy at the McCain rally or the woman in red telling McCain that Obama is a Muslim and can't be trusted.

The answer isn't to stay home and let the lunatics take over the asylum. The sane people need to take charge and remove those elements, whether they're Mobies or Nirfers or whatever.

433 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:54:38pm

re: #381 CapeCoddah

Happy St. Patricks day everyone!

Back at ya, glad you posted something positive because it's getting a bit testy in here. Hey anybody out there in Savannah? I heard that will be one partying town tonight.

434 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:54:42pm

re: #378 newsjunkie_ky

I didn't, 'sport'.

Except that you DID. I was specifically gearing my posts toward improving the Tea Party's message to the rest of us. You're the one who first said that you didn't have a problem with the (racist) banners, and then turned around and blamed mobies for whatever posters might have offended others.

You are not a serious person and I am done arguing with you. Go ahead and keep downdinging Killgore if it makes you feel better. You'll still be a fool.

435 scuba mom  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:54:58pm

re: #422 funky chicken

I'm not sure what the rules are with the military but aren't there workers comp laws that apply here?

not that that matters to the hallowed one...

436 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:55:03pm

re: #425 Kenneth

psst: he's at work, and it's all going according to plan. he'll fix it later. first is the breaking. then comes the fixing. he's not done with the breaking yet.

437 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:55:08pm

re: #413 Killgore Trout

Nirthers, racists and Paulians! Oh, My!

Normal people will not attend these protests. If they do, they will only go once. Why should we excuse this shit? Why should we look the other way? For the "greater good"? I wouldn't attend counterjihad conferences that allow neo-nazis to participate, why would I endorse protests with racists and assorted other wackos. It's not an isolated incident. Nor was the racist monkey guy at the McCain rally or the woman in red telling McCain that Obama is a Muslim and can't be trusted.

the loudest voice is the one that's heard...yes there will be fringe lunatics but that is the way it is...so far I think it's understood that the tea parties are symbolic for a contempt of spending and excessive taxation...forge ahead with that...if these protests turn into some right wing side show I will change my mind...so far they have not

438 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:55:27pm

re: #309 GGMac

Reports are saying there was no visible injury, and that she was all right for an hour or so - then complained of headache. My limited medical knowledge wonders if it's a brain bleed of some kind.

?

they sent her to a doctor/hospital in Canada. should have done a CT scan, but probably gave her motrin and sent her on her way.

don't get a head injury in Canada.

439 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:55:38pm

re: #431 Chicago Blonde

If you think she's cute on your son's arm, she won the MIL jackpot.

What a lovely thing to say. Indeed, my son married a very special young lady and I couldn't be happier for him.

440 LGoPs  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:55:56pm

re: #1 Conservative in Liberal Hands

I'm getting a little annoyed at the US Senate and Us Congress. These unprincipled elected-for-life jerks and chickens haven't read the US Constitution or just don't care.

I can live with the ones that haven't read it or don't care because, at the end of the day, the Constitution is still there. The most dangerous ones are those that want to make it into a 'Living Document' thus ensuring that it will be shortly unrecognizable when subjected to the whims of the Franks, Schumers and Obama's of the world.
The beauty of the Constitution and the 200 + year stability it has provided the country is the way it was crafted to be difficult to change. Progressive, 'Living Document' politicians are one of it's greatest enemies.

441 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:56:48pm

Buckley and Goldwater worked very hard to expose the nuts, racists, and conspiracy theorists and drive them out of the GOP. Were they full of crap?

442 snowcrash  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:57:06pm

K.T. I think the majority of the protest Tea Party photos are fine. Idiots like nirthers and conpiracy theorists will show up for any event. It is their right. The racist fotoshopped pictures (last 2) are a different story. They could have been submitted by anybody, but no excuse, but they must be removed ASAP. Disgraceful.

443 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:57:10pm

re: #407 Russkilitlover

King John, 12 weeks, male. Food preferences - anything of MINE that's leather.

Awww!
He loos as if you've rubbed his fur with silk, its so shiny1

As for his leather appetite - nothing like a young dog in the house to make one tidy up ones shoes and handbags in their various cupboards!
(Had one of my favourites eaten as well ...)

444 midwestgak  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:57:27pm

re: #435 scuba mom

I'm not sure what the rules are with the military but aren't there workers comp laws that apply here?

It's interesting that Obama used a military term "pay grade" during the debate.

445 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:58:17pm

Chris Dodd - another Mistra-Know-It-All...

Senator Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) on Monday night floated the idea of taxing American International Group (AIG: 0.9768, 0.1967, 25.21%) bonus recipients so the government could recoup the $450 million the company is paying to employees in its financial products unit. Within hours, the idea spread to both houses of Congress, with lawmakers proposing an AIG bonus tax.

While the Senate constructed the $787 billion stimulus last month, Dodd unexpectedly added an executive-compensation restriction to the bill. That amendment provides an “exception for contractually obligated bonuses agreed on before Feb. 11, 2009,” which exempts the very AIG bonuses Dodd and others are seeking to tax. The amendment is in the final version and is law.

446 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:58:19pm

re: #421 Killgore Trout

Here come the folks who want to sweep this under the rug. Let's pretend nothing is going on and it'll all work out great, eh? Don't criticize right wing racists because they're on our side!
/great plan.
//


Oh, we forgort,You are, afterall, the saint of LGF, the all-knowing, all-pure, all-self riotious, holier than anyone KT.

447 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:58:29pm

re: #402 avanti

I hate to suggest it, but I would not be shocked to find the poster of those pictures is a leftie moon bat. Both sides have been known to leave a turd in the others punch bowl. Had the images been carried around on a sign, I'd expect a good conservative to speak up.

You know avanti, I think that is the most sensible thing I've ever read from you. I'm going to give you an upding for that.

448 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:58:50pm

re: #439 scottishbuzzsaw

(((Scottishbuzzsaw)))

My mom ADORES Mr. Blonde. We kids are so happy when our 'rents love our spouses.

449 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:58:54pm
450 scuba mom  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:59:00pm

re: #444 midwestgak

451 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:59:02pm
452 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:59:18pm

re: #433 turn

Back at ya, glad you posted something positive because it's getting a bit testy in here. Hey anybody out there in Savannah? I heard that will be one partying town tonight.

TURN - from last thread - yes, send in recipes, click my nic and read the blog post just below the most current one.

453 opnion  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 1:59:34pm

re: #432 doppelganglander

The answer isn't to stay home and let the lunatics take over the asylum. The sane people need to take charge and remove those elements, whether they're Mobies or Nirfers or whatever.

I regret that I have only one upding to give you.

454 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:00:03pm

re: #443 yma o hyd

My pooch once surgically amputated a leather braid from one of my clogs. Little booger must have been a surgeon in another life.

455 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:00:15pm

re: #438 funky chicken

You really have no idea what care she did or did not receive at the hospital, or whether that had any bearing on her current condition. Your unfounded speculation is in bad taste.

456 scuba mom  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:00:31pm

re: #450 scuba mom

oops, deleted my own comment :-) what I meant to say is

how'd "pay grade" get on the teleprompter? betcha they got fired

457 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:00:50pm
458 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:00:56pm

Say What ?

US firm to close branch due to lack of employees

Yet an unexpected thing happened: so few people applied for the Minot jobs that the Tampa-headquartered company will have to close the call center on May 10 -- a cutback by Sykes that will result in 200 people losing their jobs.

"We've been working for several months there (in Minot) to find enough applicants for the work, since we have been experiencing significant growth in the US," said Sykes spokeswoman Andrea Burnett.

459 phoenixgirl  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:01:06pm

what kind of creep would put that picture of mrs. o., the africans on the truck and that picture of mccain? a racist.

460 punkindrublic  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:01:08pm

I always thought Isaac was loopy; that just proves it.

461 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:02:23pm

re: #442 snowcrash

K.T. I think the majority of the protest Tea Party photos are fine. Idiots like nirthers and conpiracy theorists will show up for any event. It is their right.

What needs to be done is for three or four big beefy guys to sidle up to some of the kooks and ask them point-blank what their purpose is at the rally. On the off chance they care, they can be provided with a big marker and a sign and supervised while they write out something on-topic. If they don't, the sign can be taken from them and the kook can be left to whine about "fascism".

462 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:02:31pm

re: #432 doppelganglander

The answer isn't to stay home and let the lunatics take over the asylum. The sane people need to take charge and remove those elements, whether they're Mobies or Nirfers or whatever.

Exactly. People felt very comfortable posting those images on the Tea Party site. That's a serious warning sign right there. The fact that they felt comfortable enough to post them and that there isn't immediate outrage is another serious sign. Sunlight is the best disinfectant but it only works if people care. Many people here don't seem to think this is worthwhile.

463 HippieforLife  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:02:34pm

re: #22 notutopia

Obama administration issues a scathing response to criticism from former Vice President Dick Cheney, calling him part of a "Republican cabal" and saying his economic advice should be ignored.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Robert Gibbs has got to be THE worst press secretary ever! I am so tired of these Obamots spouting invective at people they do not agree with. I wish they would all take their balls (if they have any!) and go home. They do not play well with others.

464 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:02:41pm

re: #433 turn

Back at ya, glad you posted something positive because it's getting a bit testy in here. Hey anybody out there in Savannah? I heard that will be one partying town tonight.


Not there but you heard right. Hit the River Walk.

465 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:02:54pm

re: #458 SasquatchOnSteroids

Say What ?

US firm to close branch due to lack of employees

Minot, NORTH DAKOTA.

Not too many people in North Dakota, last I looked.

466 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:02:56pm

re: #446 newsjunkie_ky

Fuck you.

467 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:03:09pm

Obama Administration snubs yet another country -


Brazil has become a major U.S. trading partner, with cautious economic policies that have helped it weather the crisis better than almost all other major economies. With huge new offshore oil finds and abundant ethanol, Brazil could be key to helping wean the U.S. off Venezuelan crude and shift to cleaner energies.

Still, the White House made several moves interpreted as snubs by the Brazilian media.

Silva aides said the trip was pushed forward from Tuesday because of the St. Patrick's Day holiday — making Latin America once again look like an afterthought. Then, the White House announcement misspelled his name as "Luis Ignacio" and put "Lula" — a nickname that decades ago became a legal part of the Brazilian leader's name — in quotes.

[Link: www.google.com...]

468 phoenixgirl  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:03:14pm

do i think all of the tea party people are racist? no. would i participate in a tea party? yes.

469 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:03:24pm

Am I drunk? Thinking that perhaps, maybe, mayhap, I gotta feeling that these racist pics were posted by a Moby? In this particular time, when Libs with their anti-Rush (who is a racist, doncha know, they just need to prove it) parade and the seeming imminence of the Fairness Doctrine, want to shut us all up, as I say, more than anything else in the world right now, especially right now, as they remake our government's very foundations. Do I seem drunk to post the idea that a Moby might be behind the pics?

Are you awake?

470 Karmapolice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:04:07pm

You want something positive? Its St. Patty's Day! Anyone wanna join me for a grill out and some Guinness?

471 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:04:18pm

re: #440 LGoPs

The beauty of the Constitution and the 200 + year stability it has provided the country is the way it was crafted to be difficult to change. Progressive, 'Living Document' politicians are one of it's greatest enemies.

That road leads to tyranny. That's why the Constitution was created as it was. The Founders were immensely wise and I believe it was due in part to a thorough understanding of history - in particular Greek and Roman history. Athens had a 'democracy' that degenerated into mob rule and eventually couldn't stand against Sparta. Sparta was autocratic but had a stable government. Rome was a republic but eventually fell due in part to a lack of seperation of powers and necessary checks and balances. There are many other factors of course, but it seems to me that what the Founders tried to do was use what they new of history, and human nature, to build a lasting Republic. Once it becomes easy to change the Constitution, we'll end up with a tyrant.

472 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:04:18pm

re: #465 OldLineTexan

Minot, NORTH DAKOTA.

Not too many people in North Dakota, last I looked.

states there are 40,000 in Minot.

473 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:04:22pm
474 kafir lover  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:04:38pm

re: #464 filetandrelease

re: #433 turn

You will be lucky to find a hotel room within a hundred miles.

475 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:04:43pm

re: #415 yma o hyd

turnspawn gets migraines on occasion and they ain't no fun. I can sympathize with all you folks who suffer from them. It's weird in a way, he sees what he can only describe as blue flashes in the run up to the attack. He knows now to take a pill and hit the bed in a dark room as soon as those flashes start.

476 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:04:46pm

re: #461 Zimriel

What needs to be done is for three or four big beefy guys to sidle up to some of the kooks and ask them point-blank what their purpose is at the rally. On the off chance they care, they can be provided with a big marker and a sign and supervised while they write out something on-topic. If they don't, the sign can be taken from them and the kook can be left to whine about "fascism".

well that is kinda fascist

477 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:04:48pm

re: #451 buzzsawmonkey

Agreed. I don't think the image should be removed by facebook. If racists want to post pictures they should be allowed. The Tea Party folks have responsibility to police their own.

478 scuba mom  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:04:58pm

re: #466 Killgore Trout

now, now, kids, play nice

479 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:05:12pm

re: #462 Killgore Trout

Exactly. People felt very comfortable posting those images on the Tea Party site. That's a serious warning sign right there. The fact that they felt comfortable enough to post them and that there isn't immediate outrage is another serious sign. Sunlight is the best disinfectant but it only works if people care. Many people here don't seem to think this is worthwhile.

outrage at a nirther?...oh c'mon bro...it's a small thing in the context of these protests...what good does expressing outrage do?...

480 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:05:15pm

re: #467 karmic_inquisitor

Obama Administration snubs yet another country -

[Link: www.google.com...]

It's just a matter of time.

481 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:05:31pm

re: #472 SasquatchOnSteroids

states there are 40,000 in Minot.

Something like 4,000,000 in Houston. I guess it depends on where you build your call center. I doubt I'd move to Minot for a call center job; I suppose it depends on the local economy.

482 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:05:38pm

re: #466 Killgore Trout

Fuck you.


Right back at ya!

483 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:05:40pm

re: #457 Iron Fist

You know, after the way the Left has treated all black Republicans since, well, I guess since the end of Reconstruction, maybe even as far back as the end of the Civil War, I find it a little hard to muster outrage over things like this. Just look at the way Condoleeza Rice has been treated. It has been far worse, and more all-engrossing (how many Democrats said shit about all the racist cartoons about her? Jesse, Al, I looking at you), but some pinhead does something far milder, and that's it. End the movement, pack up and leave, and above all submit to the dominance of the Left?

That kind of shit makes me question where some people's loyalties lie.

Folks need to speak out against assholes who try to make the protests appear racist.

484 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:05:42pm

Here's to the valor of New York's "Fighting 69th" and "Fighting Irish" Regiment, most recently engaged in Afghanistan where it lost nine of its men, killed in action.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

"Its history dates back to 1849, when it was created as the 9th Regiment New York State Militia, and A Company, 1/69 can trace roots back to the American Revolution. The regiment saw combat in four wars: the American Civil War, World War I, World War II, and the Iraq War. It has also participated in 23 campaigns.

It is an Irish heritage unit, with many of its traditions and symbols deriving from a time when the regiment was made entirely of Irish-Americans. The regiment's Civil War Era battle cry was "Fág an Bealach;" which is Irish Gaelic for "Clear the Way." This is reminiscent of the cry of the Irish Brigade of the French Army in the Battle of Fontenoy. A World War I era battle cry is "Garryowen and Glory!" Its Motto is "Gentle when stroked - Fierce when provoked" in reference to the Irish Wolfhounds on its crest and dress cap badges of 1861.

After the failed Young Irelanders Revolt in 1848, Irish revolutionary activity transferred from Ireland to New York City. Irish patriots in New York believed they needed to form an Irish Brigade composed of Irish regiments to free Ireland from British control. To that end, they began to organize independent military companies in New York City. In late 1848 and early 1849, the first companies were formed. Drills were conducted at the Center Market and by mid 1849 a skeleton of the First Irish Regiment had been formed. As can be seen in the Lineage and Honors Certificate, which is mounted on the wall in the front hall of the 69th Armory, it is to this regiment that the 69th traces its earliest history and lineage. The Lineage and Honors Certificate of the 69th Regiment can be found at: [Link: www.sixtyninth.net...] Michael Doheny, a refugee from the failed 1848 Revolt was one of the Company Commanders of this Regiment. He was instrumental in the founding of all the early Irish Regiments.

In the summer of 1849 and continuing until the fall, Irish leaders in New York City began negotiations with the State to form an Irish regiment with the existing and future independent Irish companies. On December 21, 1849 the First Irish Regiment was adopted by the State. (This date is the officially recognized date of organization for the 69th Regiment.) Many of the Irish revolutionary leaders, including Michael Phelan, Michael Doheny, Richard O’Gorman, and James Huston, participated in the meetings. Doheny, O’Gorman, and Huston had participated in the failed Irish Revolt of 1848. Phelan was not in Ireland in 1848 but he also believed the Irish must train soldiers within the New York State Militia system to free Ireland. What is known about the meetings is that the “original Ninth Regiment” which had been formed in 1799, was disbanded on May 27, 1850 with its companies transferred to the Eight Regiment. Two days later, on May 29th 1850 the First Irish Regiment was mustered into the New York State Militia as the 9th Regiment with Colonel Benjamin Clinton Ferris, Commander.

Over a year later, the Second Regiment of the proposed Irish Brigade was organized on the 12th of October 1851. The Second Irish Regiment was mustered into the New York State Militia on November 1, 1851 as the 69th Regiment. This was the unit to which the 69th previously traced. Michael Doheny left the 9th and was appointed Lieutenant Colonel of the 69th. In May 1852, another Irish Regiment (Third Irish Regiment designated the 72d Regiment) was established on Long Island.

In 1852, Thomas Francis Meagher, another leader of the failed Rebellion of 1848, escaped to New York and took an active role in the Irish Republican movement in New York.

485 joncelli  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:05:54pm

re: #462 Killgore Trout

Patrolling a movement and excising the idiots, racists, and troublemakers is good. Destroying a movement because all of its members are not up to a certain standard does not make sense. Yes, eject the fools and racists; no, don't self-destruct. Or is this simply a teaching moment in which you hold a mirror up to our hypocrisy?

486 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:05:57pm

re: #462 Killgore Trout

I think it's worthwhile.

Your avatar is a riot too.

487 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:05:58pm

Anyone who attempts to trivialize the impact of racist imagery and idiotic slogans, regardless of their source, is full of crap.

488 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:06:14pm

re: #419 taxfreekiller

good thing some one is pure

sac

Hey TFK, are you being sarcastic about my home town there?

489 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:06:16pm

re: #457 Iron Fist

You know, after the way the Left has treated all black Republicans since, well, I guess since the end of Reconstruction, maybe even as far back as the end of the Civil War, I find it a little hard to muster outrage over things like this.

Then keep that tolerance of racialist imagery to yourself during the rally, or don't go.

That kind of shit makes me question where some people's loyalties lie.

You want to question my loyalty; okay. Where are yours? Are you loyal to racists and nirthers?

490 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:06:58pm

re: #486 Chicago Blonde

Thanks.

491 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:07:04pm

re: #468 phoenixgirl

And I hope that if you saw a racist sign or picture you would say something, or attempt to get a group of people to confront them.

I say that I would. (I hope that I would...not an intimidating guy, me.)

492 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:07:06pm

re: #415 yma o hyd

If its any consolation - after a certain age the migraines do tend to fizzle out.

I shudder to think what would happen if I had one, and Madame needed to be let out ... but thankfully its years since the last one.

Not a nice thing to suffer from - and people who never had it may be sympathetic, bu they just do not understand the awfulness of it!

{yma}

Thanks, dear. Once I stopped eating wheat, I had far fewer migraines. So it's not as bad as it used to be.

493 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:07:21pm
494 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:07:24pm

re: #467 karmic_inquisitor

Obama Administration snubs yet another country -

[Link: www.google.com...]

It is clear from the countries the 0 is snubbing and those he's reaching out to, who he wants as allies. Iran, Syria, Russia, but not Great Britain, Brazil, etc.

495 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:07:26pm

re: #413 Killgore Trout

No one's suggesting ignoring the ugly images, KT. We're suggesting speaking up about them.

And I would note that those images were not from the protests, except the stupid nirther one.

Can we refrain from "waily, waily! We're doomed!" for ten minutes?

496 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:07:40pm

re: #485 joncelli

Patrolling a movement and excising the idiots, racists, and troublemakers is good. Destroying a movement because all of its members are not up to a certain standard does not make sense. Yes, eject the fools and racists; no, don't self-destruct. Or is this simply a teaching moment in which you hold a mirror up to our hypocrisy?

Probably a bit of both, knowing him.

It would help if some of us didn't make his job so easy.

497 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:07:47pm

Another 0bama house.

Another credit reject.

Sigh.

498 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:07:49pm

re: #441 Slumbering Behemoth

Buckley and Goldwater worked very hard to expose the nuts, racists, and conspiracy theorists and drive them out of the GOP. Were they full of crap?

Well - so you've got to do it yourselves now, in all the small tea party groups, won't you?
I cannot believe that proper conservatives ahve to wait for someone to come froma gret height to tell them whats good and what isn't.

I'd also say that these groups ahve only just started out - so yes, there are bound to be crackpots trying to hang on and get noticed, there are bound to be racists and fascists trying to get in and get noticed - and there are indeed bound to be LLL types trying to get in and discredit the whole lot. that is a well-used commie strategy.

To judge something on the basis of a few pictures, bad as theya re, and discredit all the normal people who have anda re spendong their time to get this to work is a bit ott, at this point in time.

So you have the choice - turn away, stay pure and bewail the state of the GOP, or wade in and remove the racists, crackpots, fascists and Loonies yourselves!

499 UncleRancher  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:07:55pm

ASTEROID FLYBY TONIGHT: Newly-discovered asteroid 2009 FH is flying past Earth tonight only 85,000 km away. That's about twice the altitude of a geosynchronous communications satellite.

That's two this month in the range of 0.2 lunar distance from impact.

500 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:08:02pm

re: #421 Killgore Trout

Here come the folks who want to sweep this under the rug. Let's pretend nothing is going on and it'll all work out great, eh? Don't criticize right wing racists because they're on our side!
/great plan.
//

It's a terrible idea, of course. Politically it's suicide, because it gets a nut like Ron Paul elevated to some kind of symbol of the GOP. You give the nuts a seat at the table, they will end up scaring everybody else away.

Bush and Rove coddled and catered to the nuts, and they now have a huge voice in the GOP.

501 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:08:05pm

re: #470 Karmapolice
Guiness? Be there is 15 minutes, ... errr where do you live?

502 phoenixgirl  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:08:11pm

re: #491 Taqiyyotomist

And I hope that if you saw a racist sign or picture you would say something, or attempt to get a group of people to confront them.

I say that I would. (I hope that I would...not an intimidating guy, me.)

i definitely would. and i'd point it out to my children.

503 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:08:11pm

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
~George Orwell

Have a great evening, Lizard Clan, and Happy St. Patrick's Day!

504 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:08:22pm

The racist Michelle Obama pic has been up for a week. Not good.

505 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:08:24pm

re: #499 UncleRancher

ASTEROID FLYBY TONIGHT: Newly-discovered asteroid 2009 FH is flying past Earth tonight only 85,000 km away. That's about twice the altitude of a geosynchronous communications satellite.

That's two this month in the range of 0.2 lunar distance from impact.

God's aim is getting better.

/

506 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:08:41pm

re: #484 quickjustice

Here's to the valor of New York's "Fighting 69th"

Best known for their use of the "double-envelopment" maneuver.

/sorry

507 phoenixgirl  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:09:07pm

re: #504 Killgore Trout

The racist Michelle Obama pic has been up for a week. Not good.

that is just plain mean.

508 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:09:18pm

And now, you know why this blog is called Little "Green" Footballs. Charles is secretly black Irish, and a Notre Dame football fanatic! ;-)

509 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:09:19pm

re: #420 unreconstructed rebel

A little early for an administration to go into bunker-mode, don't you thing?

* * * They are not going into the bunker, they are just in the GUTTER!

Robert Gibbs the smash-mouthed, tacky spokesman for Obama is a class less jerk who was Obama's communication director when Obama was in the Senate.

510 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:09:19pm

re: #481 OldLineTexan

suppose you're right. No way I'd move there.

511 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:09:29pm

re: #476 brookly red

Then freedom of association is fascist. If we can't kick people out of our parade then what? We're not an organization, we're amorphous.

512 UncleRancher  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:09:34pm

re: #505 OldLineTexan

God's aim is getting better.

/

I think we're bracketed now.

513 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:09:39pm

re: #421 Killgore Trout

Here come the folks who want to sweep this under the rug. Let's pretend nothing is going on and it'll all work out great, eh? Don't criticize right wing racists because they're on our side!
/great plan.
//

No one's proposing to sweep anything under the rug!

Honestly, KT - you're right to call attention to it, but I think you may be just a tad quick to cry that the whole movement is doomed.

514 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:09:43pm

Crap, out of ammo just as the circular firing squad is suiting up.

Back later ... keep those barrels warm!

515 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:09:51pm

re: #445 IslandLibertarian

Chris Dodd - another Mistra-Know-It-All...

Senator Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) on Monday night floated the idea of taxing American International Group (AIG: 0.9768, 0.1967, 25.21%) bonus recipients so the government could recoup the $450 million the company is paying to employees in its financial products unit. Within hours, the idea spread to both houses of Congress, with lawmakers proposing an AIG bonus tax.

While the Senate constructed the $787 billion stimulus last month, Dodd unexpectedly added an executive-compensation restriction to the bill. That amendment provides an “exception for contractually obligated bonuses agreed on before Feb. 11, 2009,” which exempts the very AIG bonuses Dodd and others are seeking to tax. The amendment is in the final version and is law.

I think Chris Dodd just might be in electoral trouble.

YAY!

516 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:09:55pm

re: #505 OldLineTexan

God's aim is getting better.

/

It's not God, it's the bugs.

Evacuate Buenos Aires.

517 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:10:02pm

re: #485 joncelli

Patrolling a movement and excising the idiots, racists, and troublemakers is good. Destroying a movement because all of its members are not up to a certain standard does not make sense. Yes, eject the fools and racists; no, don't self-destruct. Or is this simply a teaching moment in which you hold a mirror up to our hypocrisy?

you cannot 'eject' people from a protest can you?...it's a grassroots thing, there is no official platform that I know of...how can you prevent a nirther from wielding a sign at an anti BO demonstration?

518 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:10:06pm

re: #476 brookly red

well that is kinda fascist

Actually you're right. Street protests + the threat of violence to keep it on-message = fail.

So what else can we do? I've corresponded with a nirther before. They are not amenable to reason.

519 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:10:15pm

re: #505 OldLineTexan

God's aim is getting better.

/

But how's his fastball?

520 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:10:17pm

re: #512 UncleRancher

I think we're bracketed now.

God wrote the arty field manual?

Ruh-roh, Raggy.

521 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:10:24pm

re: #499 UncleRancher

ASTEROID FLYBY TONIGHT: Newly-discovered asteroid 2009 FH is flying past Earth tonight only 85,000 km away. That's about twice the altitude of a geosynchronous communications satellite.

That's two this month in the range of 0.2 lunar distance from impact.

They heard about Obama...
/Snuggie-wearer off

522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:10:26pm

re: #504 Killgore Trout

The racist Michelle Obama pic has been up for a week. Not good.

Michelle 0bama is a racist?

523 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:10:53pm

re: #506 Occasional Reader

I've been on a few dates with Irish girls where I've attempted that one myself! ;-)

524 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:10:54pm

re: #516 Occasional Reader

It's not God, it's the bugs.

Evacuate Buenos Aires.

Nubile females over 18 to DC, naturally.

525 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:11:02pm

re: #499 UncleRancher

ASTEROID FLYBY TONIGHT: Newly-discovered asteroid 2009 FH is flying past Earth tonight only 85,000 km away. That's about twice the altitude of a geosynchronous communications satellite.

That's two this month in the range of 0.2 lunar distance from impact.

That is very scary.

526 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:11:21pm

re: #508 quickjustice

And now, you know why this blog is called Little "Green" Footballs. Charles is secretly black Irish, and a Notre Dame football fanatic! ;-)

If he was "black" Irish, it would be big green footballs? Did I say that?

527 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:11:23pm
528 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:11:27pm

re: #522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Michelle 0bama is a racist?

I've got a link to her "Whitey" speech, right here next to my proof of Obama's nirth certifikit forgery!

529 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:11:56pm

re: #519 Nevergiveup

But how's his fastball?

High, inside, and wet.

530 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:11:57pm

Well, I'm off to seek solace in a bottle.

531 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:12:08pm
532 NY Nana  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:12:18pm

re: #455 Kenneth

She refused medical care, as it was offered. About an hour later, she experienced a very bad headache, and was immediately taken to hospital, and then transferred to another one, in Montreal.

Here is the info. It is tragic that she refused care, and at that point seemed to be fine.

We can only pray that she has a complete recovery, but if the info in the article I gave just now? She is allegedly brain dead, and was taken by private plane to NYC.

Her publicist is giving no info, and the family in the UK is given none.

I cannot fault Canada, nor the ski resort in PQ in any way. She was fully alert, with no signs of injury, and refused medical care.

533 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:12:28pm

re: #420 unreconstructed rebel

A little early for an administration to go into bunker-mode, don't you thing?

Gibbs made that comment, OR pointed me here earlier.

[Link: lileks.com...]

534 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:12:39pm

re: #516 Occasional Reader

It's not God, it's the bugs.

Evacuate Buenos Aires.

Want to know more?

535 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:12:39pm

re: #524 OldLineTexan

Nubile females over 18 to DC, naturally.

"That's spelled with a 'u', by the way."

-Funniest line from The Sure Thing

536 opnion  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:12:58pm

re: #522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Michelle 0bama is a racist?

Yes!

537 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:13:07pm

re: #441 Slumbering Behemoth

Buckley and Goldwater worked very hard to expose the nuts, racists, and conspiracy theorists and drive them out of the GOP. Were they full of crap?

* * * Who says these tea parties are necessarily GOP parties?

People are assuming a LOT here.

538 UncleRancher  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:13:10pm

re: #525 filetandrelease

That is very scary.

Y' got that right. This is like a one-day warning. This one wasn't posted a couple of days ago when I checked last.

539 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:13:46pm

re: #534 jamgarr

Want to know more?

Yes? I think so, anyway.

540 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:14:08pm
541 DisturbedEma  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:14:15pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

As I asked before, anyone have any good news?

well, Dara laughed to day. . .which I was not expecting, since @ birth, Adara was/is the cranky fussy one. . . .

542 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:14:20pm

re: #499 UncleRancher

ASTEROID FLYBY TONIGHT: Newly-discovered asteroid 2009 FH is flying past Earth tonight only 85,000 km away. That's about twice the altitude of a geosynchronous communications satellite.

That's two this month in the range of 0.2 lunar distance from impact.

Location? If it's going to be bright enough, I may try to take my son out and show him. Unless you mean that you have to be up at 2am to see it.

543 snowcrash  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:14:24pm

re: #477 Killgore Trout
I don't know how facebook works, but is the person who opens the acct. and posts the first pictures responsible for reviewing all future posts?

544 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:14:33pm

re: #495 Dianna

That's the major issue, if one exists here, in my opinion. Are these racist signs being held at the rallies? If all this kerfuffle is over a Facebook page and an anonymous poster, then people should take a deep breath and try to avoid the whole baby/bathwater thing.

Anyway, corned beef will be done in twenty minutes, Happy St. Patrick's Day.

545 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:14:52pm

re: #513 Dianna

It could be doomed if these pictures come to be associated with the Tea Party movement by the general public. Say, if Nightline and 60 Minutes decided to make these and other nutso racists their focus when discussing the protests. Not that they would EVER, EVER do anything like that.

546 Mirage  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:15:05pm

re: #505 OldLineTexan

God's aim is getting better.

/

I always figured He misses on purpose... because ... does God really "miss"? :D

547 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:15:33pm

re: #539 Occasional Reader

Yes? I think so, anyway.

It was a line from the ST commercials

548 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:15:39pm

re: #452 reine.de.tout

oh thanks, I didn't go back to that thread. turnwife is a really good cook, I don't think you guys will be disappointed. I'm going to have to toss one in too, my dad was a fantastic cook. I'll try and re-create one of his dishes.

549 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:15:57pm

re: #475 turn

turnspawn gets migraines on occasion and they ain't no fun. I can sympathize with all you folks who suffer from them. It's weird in a way, he sees what he can only describe as blue flashes in the run up to the attack. He knows now to take a pill and hit the bed in a dark room as soon as those flashes start.

Poor turnspawn!
Its a horrible thing to get - and indeed, lying still in a dark room is the best thing to do, I found.

Some food will bring it on - some people get it after eating French soft cheese, others after drinking red wine, others after eating dark chocolate.
Often, its stress.

550 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:16:00pm
551 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:16:01pm
552 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:16:08pm

re: #547 jamgarr

It was a line from the ST commercials

Dang, and I thought *I* had a steel-trap memory for bad pop culture!

553 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:16:11pm
554 midwestgak  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:16:18pm

re: #546 Mirage

I always figured He misses on purpose... because ... does God really "miss"? :D

Your comment reminds me of the movie "The Bad Seed." She gets zapped by a lightening bolt. No miss there.

555 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:16:42pm

re: #461 Zimriel

What needs to be done is for three or four big beefy guys to sidle up to some of the kooks and ask them point-blank what their purpose is at the rally. On the off chance they care, they can be provided with a big marker and a sign and supervised while they write out something on-topic. If they don't, the sign can be taken from them and the kook can be left to whine about "fascism".

That's even more offensive.

I can tell someone I dislike their sign. I cannot take it away from them.

Good thing, too. There have been some signs I've desperately wanted to rip up.

556 UncleRancher  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:16:43pm

re: #542 vxbush

Location? If it's going to be bright enough, I may try to take my son out and show him. Unless you mean that you have to be up at 2am to see it.

The article says check Gemini after sunset tonight. You're looking for something moving quite fast, 14th magnitude. You can check the link for orbit info.

557 Aye Pod  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:17:12pm

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

Bungle is a Have-A-Go Hero!

So reports MPACuk:

"What actually happened for those who do not know, is an intruder tried to break into the house of Inayat in the middle of the night. Inayat’s 3 year old child was sleeping as was his pregnant wife, woken by the noise of a man who at first tried to kick in the front door and then failing that, smashed the downstairs window. Inayat confronted the intruder and in the scuffle the intruder was stabbed."

The CPS will not be proceeding against him.

Gregg in the comments on Sunday noted:

"Delicious dissonance impending for the Mail if it turns out he stabbed an illegal intruder."

Quite so!

The rest of the MPACuk post is worth reading, for comedy value:

"Until Muslims start to stand up, we may as well give up on the word freedom and prepare ourselves for slavery."

They think that a cabal of drunk Zionists tried to break into Bungle’s house, and it is a huge conspiracy against “the Muslims”, or something.

558 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:17:25pm
559 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:17:42pm

re: #487 Slumbering Behemoth

Anyone who attempts to trivialize the impact of racist imagery and idiotic slogans, regardless of their source, is full of crap.

Who's trying to do that?

560 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:18:11pm

re: #511 Taqiyyotomist

Then freedom of association is fascist. If we can't kick people out of our parade then what? We're not an organization, we're amorphous.

I was referring to the "4 or 5 beefy guys" comment... thats just thuggery. I am all for freedom of association, it's freedom from association that I spoke of... ight?

561 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:18:12pm

re: #464 filetandrelease

Not there but you heard right. Hit the River Walk.

I have on more than one occasion, just never on SPD. I'll have to do that some day, I hear the whole town shuts down and parties all day.

562 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:18:23pm
563 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:18:23pm

Hamas members stopped from smuggling cash to Gaza
Two group men returning from Egypt caught trying to cross border with nearly $850,000 stuffed into candy tins, security official says

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

So let me get this, these 2 terrorist scum go to Egypt and "acquire" $850,000 and Egypt didn't catch it at the source? Last time I withdrew $850,000 from my bank account I had to sign something? Does money grow on trees down there? Is this stimulus money?

564 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:18:26pm

re: #538 UncleRancher
Not quite big enough to be a planet killer, I hope. Let's hope this next one is the last.

565 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:18:39pm
566 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:18:39pm

re: #552 Occasional Reader

Dang, and I thought *I* had a steel-trap memory for bad pop culture!


Sorry. I decided long ago that half of the 10% of my brain that I get to use should function as a worthless information repository.

567 vxbush  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:18:46pm

re: #556 UncleRancher

The article says check Gemini after sunset tonight. You're looking for something moving quite fast, 14th magnitude. You can check the link for orbit info.

Yes, I did click the link, and I never took astronomy. So I'm afraid I can't translate all the terminology into a place to point in the sky and at what time for my latitude.

568 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:19:00pm

re: #474 kafir lover

re: #433 turn

You will be lucky to find a hotel room within a hundred miles.

Really? wow

569 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:19:11pm

re: #546 Mirage

I always figured He misses on purpose... because ... does God really "miss"? :D

You really thinks he hits the bowl every time he pees, even at night?

570 freetoken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:19:15pm

re: #537 alegrias

* * * Who says these tea parties are necessarily GOP parties?

People are assuming a LOT here.

Because GOP stalwarts like Roger Hedgecock are pushing the "tea party" idea. (See the bloglist on his site.)

571 midwestgak  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:19:18pm

re: #562 buzzsawmonkey

Tomorrow: Congress convenes committees, initiates investigations, to look into asteroid use among astronomers.

If they can tax it, they will.

572 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:19:51pm

re: #545 Taqiyyotomist

It could be doomed if these pictures come to be associated with the Tea Party movement by the general public. Say, if Nightline and 60 Minutes decided to make these and other nutso racists their focus when discussing the protests. Not that they would EVER, EVER do anything like that.

I'm aware that they'll highlight the ugliness and the idiocy. It's expected.

But your point is what, precisely? Not every anti-war protester agreed with the vileness spewed; they stopped coming, and the vileness increased.

Do you propose that a very American thing - objecting to insane government spending - be abandoned to the lunatic fringe?

573 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:20:07pm

A little comic relief, perhaps.

Language Warning

Eddie Izzard- Death Star Canteen

574 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:20:21pm

re: #555 Dianna

I think if the regular teaparty-goers distanced themselves from the racists and nirthers as though they were lepers and enough conservative bloggers posted pictures of the chasm between them, we could keep them from "infecting" us.

575 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:20:21pm
576 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:20:26pm
577 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:20:48pm

re: #563 Nevergiveup

Hamas members stopped from smuggling cash to Gaza
Two group men returning from Egypt caught trying to cross border with nearly $850,000 stuffed into candy tins, security official says

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

So let me get this, these 2 terrorist scum go to Egypt and "acquire" $850,000 and Egypt didn't catch it at the source? Last time I withdrew $850,000 from my bank account I had to sign something? Does money grow on trees down there? Is this stimulus money?

* * *
Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and the moslem congressman from Minnesota wanted you to know they DID NOT MEET with Hamas! They swore it! But your billion will get into Hamas' hands by some means --cough UN cough.

578 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:20:53pm
579 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:21:00pm

re: #544 Lincolntf

That's the major issue, if one exists here, in my opinion. Are these racist signs being held at the rallies? If all this kerfuffle is over a Facebook page and an anonymous poster, then people should take a deep breath and try to avoid the whole baby/bathwater thing.

Anyway, corned beef will be done in twenty minutes, Happy St. Patrick's Day.

Facebook page.

580 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:21:08pm

re: #487 Slumbering Behemoth

Anyone who attempts to trivialize the impact of racist imagery and idiotic slogans, regardless of their source, is full of crap.

Exactly, thanks.

581 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:21:23pm
Newly-discovered asteroid 2009 FH

If it had featured a giant photo of a scantily-clad Elisha Cuthbert on it, the asteroid would have been designated 2009 FHM.

582 scuba mom  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:21:28pm

re: #563 Nevergiveup

that's a lot of milk money

583 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:21:35pm

re: #560 brookly red

I suppose. It's sticky. So we can't kick out people from our protest who are carrying giant Little Black Sambo signs, and we can't stop the local and national evening news from focusing on just these so as to mold the public perception of the movement.

What to do?

584 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:21:53pm

Everyone knows to ding up littleoldlady's Fruitcup for her birthday tomorrow, right?

585 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:22:02pm

re: #582 scuba mom

that's a lot of milk money

Does milk usually explode?

586 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:22:03pm

I invite anyone who wishes to characterize Kilgore's exposure of this ugly crap as his personal crusade of purity to claim they have never used the term RINO.

587 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:22:09pm

re: #584 Sharmuta

I do now, thanks.

588 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:22:13pm

re: #525 filetandrelease

That is very scary.

Lets just hope there are no Leprechauns on that asteroid, drunk on the Black stuff! Who knows what they might get up to.

(It is st Patrick's Day, after all ...)

589 midwestgak  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:22:36pm

re: #582 scuba mom

that's a lot of milk money

When I was in Jr. high school, we could buy milk for 3 cents. Dating myself.

590 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:22:40pm

re: #570 freetoken

Because GOP stalwarts like Roger Hedgecock are pushing the "tea party" idea. (See the bloglist on his site.)

* * *

Never heard of the guy you refer to as a GOP stalwart, and I follow the GOP.

Get a life. These tea parties are a natural result of growing realization by some Americans that they've been had by Obama and democrats' nationalization taxation.

591 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:22:44pm

re: #561 turn
I was there several years on SPD, at least I think that was the place. It is a riot.

592 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:22:45pm

re: #499 UncleRancher

ASTEROID FLYBY TONIGHT: Newly-discovered asteroid 2009 FH is flying past Earth tonight only 85,000 km away. That's about twice the altitude of a geosynchronous communications satellite.

That's two this month in the range of 0.2 lunar distance from impact.

Whoa, that's going to be close.

593 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:22:49pm

re: #559 Dianna

Who's trying to do that?

Iron Fist #457 and newsjunkie_ky #322 come immediately to mind.

594 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:22:49pm

littleoldlady's Fruitcup can be found at 2 am Pacific daily.

595 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:22:55pm

re: #504 Killgore Trout

The racist Michelle Obama pic has been up for a week. Not good.

Not good, of course, but not an indictment of all involved, either. I'm a member of a facebook group that I check, at most, once every three months, and the 3 pictures posted there (by me, not an admin) are hard to make out unless you actually click on them to enlarge.

There could be crap posted there contra to our purpose and I wouldn't know.

I'm not a fan of facebook groups in general, now that I think about it.

596 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:22:59pm

re: #563 Nevergiveup

Egypt could shut down the smuggling 100% if they wanted to. But they are making way too much money on it. The police the border enough to make smuggling difficult, but not impossible. The border guards take fat bribes from the smugglers and pass a cut on up the chain of command.

597 UncleRancher  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:23:09pm

re: #564 filetandrelease

Not quite big enough to be a planet killer, I hope. Let's hope this next one is the last.

The listing says it's a 21 meter rock. About 65 ft. Object name is 2009 FH

598 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:23:10pm

re: #584 Sharmuta

ding up littleoldlady's Fruitcup

Hey, hey, this is not that kind of website, young lady.

599 scuba mom  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:23:33pm

re: #585 Nevergiveup

only when strapped to the chest

600 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:23:58pm

re: #592 turn

Whoa, that's going to be close.

And if we've learned anything from Star Trek, it's that the asteroid will make an audible whooshing noise as it goes by.

601 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:24:16pm
602 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:24:16pm

re: #442 snowcrash

K.T. I think the majority of the protest Tea Party photos are fine. Idiots like nirthers and conpiracy theorists will show up for any event. It is their right. The racist fotoshopped pictures (last 2) are a different story. They could have been submitted by anybody, but no excuse, but they must be removed ASAP. Disgraceful.

Just a note to say you are making me feel all warm and fuzzy by doing the right thing in complaining about those pictures. I'd like to be able to say the far leftie moon bats would do the same for GW, but many would not. IMHO there is no excuse for extreme personal mocking of the POTUS or the First Lady, no matter the party or policies you disagree with.

603 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:24:26pm

re: #589 midwestgak

When I was in Jr. high school, we could buy milk for 3 cents. Dating myself.

Woolly Mammoth Milk?

604 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:24:28pm

re: #549 yma o hyd

I think he gets them when he gets really fatigued from lack of sleep.

605 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:24:30pm

And on that note, I need to go. Goodnight Lizards, have a great St. Patrick's Day and may your scales be extra scaly tonight.

606 Empire1  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:24:35pm

re: #443 yma o hyd

Awww!
He loos as if you've rubbed his fur with silk, its so shiny1

As for his leather appetite - nothing like a young dog in the house to make one tidy up ones shoes and handbags in their various cupboards!
(Had one of my favourites eaten as well ...)

A vinegar-hot pepper mix painted on to furniture that can handle it will prevent a lot of damage, too. Unfortunately, I didn't learn this until Frank had almost outgrown his chewing phase anyway ...

607 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:25:07pm

re: #598 Occasional Reader

Ding the Fruitcup or I'll torment you with constant references to a certain recent wedding of a certain Brazilian supermodel, Reader.

608 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:25:35pm

Hope -

Republicans take small lead in Generic Congressional Poll

[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

I only hope that the GOP leadership doesn't see this meager accomplishment is due to a groundswell of support for young earth creationism.

609 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:25:39pm

re: #551 buzzsawmonkey

Serious question, Killgore: if the picture is merely an unattractive one of Michelle Obama, and not photoshopped, how is it racist?

Unflattering, I grant you. But "racist?"

Do a google image search of her and you will find a lot of unflattering pictures. Are they all photoshopped?

610 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:26:16pm

re: #591 filetandrelease

I was there several years on SPD, at least I think that was the place. It is a riot.

Ha! You must have had a good time.

611 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:26:17pm

re: #551 buzzsawmonkey

Serious question, Killgore: if the picture is merely an unattractive one of Michelle Obama, and not photoshopped, how is it racist?

Unflattering, I grant you. But "racist?"

At first I was a little unsure but after looking at the other pictures in the stream (McCain slaughtering Africans and the questionable monkey cartoon) it's pretty clear it's intended as racist.

612 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:26:21pm

re: #607 Sharmuta

Ding the Fruitcup or I'll torment you with constant references to a certain recent wedding of a certain Brazilian supermodel, Reader.

I'll set my alarm...:)

613 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:26:24pm
614 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:26:26pm

re: #551 buzzsawmonkey

Serious question, Killgore: if the picture is merely an unattractive one of Michelle Obama, and not photoshopped, how is it racist?

Unflattering, I grant you. But "racist?"


If that's the case, zombie is sexist for his Hillary gallery.

615 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:26:27pm

re: #588 yma o hyd

Lets just hope there are no Leprechauns on that asteroid, drunk on the Black stuff! Who knows what they might get up to.

(It is st Patrick's Day, after all ...)


So if there are no clouds in the sky tonight, and it starts raining...

616 brookly red  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:26:29pm

re: #583 Taqiyyotomist

I suppose. It's sticky. So we can't kick out people from our protest who are carrying giant Little Black Sambo signs, and we can't stop the local and national evening news from focusing on just these so as to mold the public perception of the movement.

What to do?

The right thing of course, respect the rights of those you find most odious & let truth be it's own defense.

617 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:26:32pm

re: #600 Occasional Reader

And if we've learned anything from Star Trek, it's that the asteroid will make an audible whooshing noise as it goes by.


My favorite was Roddy McDowell's rocket that went from planet to sun in about 10 seconds!

618 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:27:05pm

re: #544 Lincolntf

That's the major issue, if one exists here, in my opinion. Are these racist signs being held at the rallies? If all this kerfuffle is over a Facebook page and an anonymous poster, then people should take a deep breath and try to avoid the whole baby/bathwater thing.

Anyway, corned beef will be done in twenty minutes, Happy St. Patrick's Day.

I hope my wife is already cooking our corned beef (I'd better call her).

619 midwestgak  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:27:14pm

re: #600 Occasional Reader

And if we've learned anything from Star Trek, it's that the asteroid will make an audible whooshing noise as it goes by.

Picture of an aykroyd

620 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:27:15pm
621 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:27:21pm

re: #608 karmic_inquisitor

Hope -

Republicans take small lead in Generic Congressional Poll

[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

I only hope that the GOP leadership doesn't see this meager accomplishment is due to a groundswell of support for young earth creationism.

* * *
You don't think Pelosi's people in charge of Congress since 2006, have anything to do with dems' dropping popularity?

622 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:27:27pm

re: #602 avanti

...IMHO there is no excuse for extreme personal mocking of the POTUS or the First Lady, no matter the party or policies you disagree with.

That's nice of you to say so, but let me ask you, did you speak out against it to your lefty friends when Bush was mocked & insulted?

623 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:27:46pm

re: #600 Occasional Reader

And if we've learned anything from Star Trek, it's that the asteroid will make an audible whooshing noise as it goes by.

And we'll modify the main deflector grid just in the nick of time.

624 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:27:46pm
625 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:27:56pm

re: #597 UncleRancher

The listing says it's a 21 meter rock. About 65 ft. Object name is 2009 FH


That would make a mess out of Tehran.

626 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:28:02pm

re: #602 avanti

Just a note to say you are making me feel all warm and fuzzy by doing the right thing in complaining about those pictures. I'd like to be able to say the far leftie moon bats would do the same for GW, but many would not. IMHO there is no excuse for extreme personal mocking of the POTUS or the First Lady, no matter the party or policies you disagree with.

When the POTUS decides to have soldiers pay the bill for their battle wounds then he is deserving of EXTREME mocking.

627 Zimriel  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:28:06pm

re: #575 Iron Fist

Remenber his comments about the "clingers to God and Guns?" Where the fuck were you then? Where the fuck were you whien the Washington Post ran racist cartoons about Condoleeza Rice? Where were you when John Kerry was calling the troops morons, or when Dick Durban was calling them Nazis?

Where were you? Becasue it sure as hell wasn't here.

I most assuredly was at other sites, complaining about those misdeeds; and I've been here over the past two years. And I was out making calls to the McCain / Palin phone bank during the election and donating cash to same. I ran a blog of my own from 2002-2006 which had a lot of political commentary.

As mentioned: I know where my loyalties lie. I don't want unhinged goofs on my team. I'm not convinced I need you on my team; from what I've read of your oeuvre, you're pretty big on touting how violent you used to be in your youth, as if we're supposed to be impressed by any of it.

628 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:28:08pm

re: #553 Iron Fist

It's kind of like the Abu Grabass thing. People are raging majorly over reletively minor things while completely ignoring far more egregious wrongs. Would I pull the pic of Michelle? Sure I would, if it were my site. But I am curious why the outrage is so one sided. I know it isn't because people don't see the racism and bigotry, the sheer malevolent hatred that comes from the Democrats and the Left. They don't really try to hide it. Did you hear one Democrat that was upset about, say, the kooks that were throwing Oreo cookies at Michael Steele? The same people that waxed super-righteous about the use of the word "Macaca" by George Allen gave Kleagle Byrd a pass on using the word "n*gger" a few years earlier.

After all, once a Klansman, always a Klansman, but I guess that is OK.

I could go on at some length about this, but you know the same facts that I do. There's an even chance that whoever posted those images was deliberately trying to make us look bad. That is a tactic that they have used over and over and over. And why shouldn't they?

It is a tactic that works.

That's what I'm thinking.

629 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:28:17pm

re: #616 brookly red

The right thing of course, respect the rights of those you find most odious & let truth be it's own defense.

in other words do nothing?...on the ground at the protest?

630 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:28:35pm

re: #622 Kenneth

That's nice of you to say so, but let me ask you, did you speak out against it to your lefty friends when Bush was mocked & insulted?

You mean like being called a fucking idiot by US Senators? Classy!

631 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:28:36pm

re: #612 albusteve

I'll set my alarm...:)

That's thoughtful. Or you can find 2 am Pacific time when you get in regularly here, and ding the Fruitcup then. It's all littleoldlady wants for her birthday. She's too polite to pimp the Fruitcup, but I'm not. :p

632 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:28:55pm

re: #574 Chicago Blonde

I think if the regular teaparty-goers distanced themselves from the racists and nirthers as though they were lepers and enough conservative bloggers posted pictures of the chasm between them, we could keep them from "infecting" us.

Suggest it to KT. I'm not exactly ready to write the Tea Parties off, yet.

633 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:29:27pm

re: #617 jamgarr

My favorite was Roddy McDowell's rocket that went from planet to sun in about 10 seconds!

Yep, and then the blast wave from the resulting exploding star took about another 10 seconds to reach the planet. Meaning the planet was less than 10 light-seconds away from its star to begin with (as compared with, say Earth's roughly 8 light-minutes). No wonder Picard got all sweaty.

634 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:29:41pm

re: #624 Iron Fist

Michelle Obama is not an attractive woman, but apparently it is now racist to notice this. Like I said earlier, whose side are they really on?

* * *

Iron Fist, I defend your right to your opinion but disagree with your taste.

635 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:29:47pm

re: #621 alegrias

* * *
You don't think Pelosi's people in charge of Congress since 2006, have anything to do with dems' dropping popularity?

I very much do. Except that she won two elections.

My fear is that the socons will claim a turn around as being based on social issues and try to make that the basis of a "comeback".

636 freetoken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:30:07pm

re: #590 alegrias


Get a life. These tea parties are a natural result of growing realization by some Americans that they've been had by Obama and democrats' nationalization taxation.

This is not 1775... and to pretend it is ... is just another form of demagoguery, in this case tinged (by some of the proponents) with racism.

637 turn  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:30:16pm

Have a green beer on turn tonight folks. Time to go walk the lab along the American, take care!

638 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:30:25pm

re: #625 filetandrelease

The rock that made the hole in Arizona was about the size of a VW. So this rock would do a helluva lot more.

639 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:30:43pm

re: #632 Dianna

I'm not really a supporter of the Tea Party protests anyways. I have so say in how they conduct themselves.

640 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:30:47pm

It's rare, but I'm in complete agreement with KTrout here.

The left isn't out protesting anymore. The professional protestors who made good with the Soros-funded printshopped signage for 8 years have nothing to do. You can bet that a certain small percentage of them have said, "You know what, I'm gonna keep protesting...but..."

You can also bet that the professional WWP-style protestor knows all about zombie, the Anatomy of a Photograph, and the power of photography over public opinion, since zombie provided a PhD. level course for us all to learn, for 8 years or so, free of charge. You can also bet they know all about the influence of someone like zombie over opposition opinion.

They're gonna use protests, conservative ones too. And, you all know their history. Mobys are utilized, and it's a rising trend. My guess is they will try and get these images and their association with conservatives to go viral, and even MSM newsworthy. For one end only. To shut us all up somehow.

641 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:31:23pm

re: #508 quickjustice

And now, you know why this blog is called Little "Green" Footballs. Charles is secretly black Irish, and a Notre Dame football fanatic! ;-)

That would be neat, if it were true. I'm from South Bend, the home of the Fighting Irish. ( And Studebaker)

642 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:31:24pm

re: #623 turn

And we'll modify the main deflector grid just in the nick of time.

Great idea! Let's send all of our senior-most officers on an extremely dangerous mission to work on that!

643 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:31:25pm

re: #631 Sharmuta

That's thoughtful. Or you can find 2 am Pacific time when you get in regularly here, and ding the Fruitcup then. It's all littleoldlady wants for her birthday. She's too polite to pimp the Fruitcup, but I'm not. :p

I've lurked there plenty...you have my word

644 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:31:29pm

More bad SciFi stuff:

From Independence Day:

President: "It's an organic life form."

645 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:31:54pm

re: #639 Killgore Trout

I have so say in how they conduct themselves.

I have NO say in how they conduct themselves.
/I stink

646 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:32:13pm

re: #632 Dianna

Suggest it to KT. I'm not exactly ready to write the Tea Parties off, yet.

* * * *

Tea parties are a great outlet for some people's frustration, and educational for people who may not have been aware they voted for a Maxy Taxing Marxist when they voted for "change".

647 UncleRancher  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:32:15pm

re: #625 filetandrelease

That would make a mess out of Tehran.

Yep, or anything else it hit. It will be interesting to see which way this goes after its close encounter. The orbit will be shifted.

648 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:32:24pm

re: #616 brookly red

The right thing of course, respect the rights of those you find most odious & let truth be it's own defense.

And the MSM won't let the latter speak in it's own defense. Wonderful.

649 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:32:44pm

re: #602 avanti
As far as I know the 1st amend. hasn't been overthrown...yet. I will make fun of who I damn well please, including our Marxist Prez and his America hating wife.

650 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:33:15pm

re: #638 pingjockey

The rock that made the hole in Arizona was about the size of a VW. So this rock would do a helluva lot more.


Could we fit Tehran in that hole in Arizona?

651 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:33:36pm

re: #644 jamgarr

More bad SciFi stuff:

From Independence Day:

President: "It's an organic life form."

... which uses a Microsoft operating system!

652 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:33:39pm
653 alegrias  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:33:57pm

re: #635 karmic_inquisitor

I very much do. Except that she won two elections.

My fear is that the socons will claim a turn around as being based on social issues and try to make that the basis of a "comeback".

* * *

You "fear" socons while leftists run the country into the toilet?

654 itellu3times  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:34:05pm

re: #632 Dianna

Suggest it to KT. I'm not exactly ready to write the Tea Parties off, yet.

The revolution is not a tea party.

655 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:34:09pm

re: #633 Occasional Reader
Malcolm McDowell, played Caligula and was in A Clockwork Orange.

656 filetandrelease  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:34:17pm

re: #647 UncleRancher
Lets hope it takes a couple of hundred thousand years to come back by.

657 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:34:34pm

re: #651 Occasional Reader

... which uses a Microsoft operating system!

Well, can't blame them. It came bundled.

658 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:34:41pm

re: #650 filetandrelease
Nope. Maybe if we squeezed real hard!

659 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:34:42pm

Balls. Big, honkin' balls:

Petty Officer 2nd Class James Anthony Leith, S.C., M.S.M., C.D.,
Shearwater, Nova Scotia
Awarded Star of Courage Medal

On September 28, 2006, Petty Officer 2nd Class James Leith risked his life to prevent the loss of civilian and military lives by dismantling an improvised explosive device (IED) on a road in the Pashmul area of Afghanistan. After his vehicle had been struck, Petty Officer 2nd Class Leith discovered an unstable IED. As his equipment had been destroyed in the original blast, he dismantled the IED using only his bayonet.

660 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:34:56pm

re: #635 karmic_inquisitor

I very much do. Except that she won two elections.

My fear is that the socons will claim a turn around as being based on social issues and try to make that the basis of a "comeback".


The social values of San Francisco are not those of America, and allowing Pelosi to be the Dem standard bearer was quite brazen. If the Dems lose a lot in 2010, I think social values will be a part of it, though probably negligible--just like they were against the republicans. In the end, I guess as much as I appreciate American values, for most voters it's all about the economy. Fortunately imo, dems are ruinous to both the economic and moral health of the country. With R' occasionally better.

661 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:35:04pm

re: #655 pingjockey

Malcolm McDowell, played Caligula and was in A Clockwork Orange.

Him, too.

662 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:35:29pm

re: #640 Taqiyyotomist

I'd also like to add that I find the defense that "it's only a small minority and they don't represent the movement" is a weak excuse. When Zombie covers a protest he doesn't take random pics to create a representative post about a protest. He chooses the most outrageous stuff and holds it up as an example of what is tolerated at a protest.

663 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:35:35pm

re: #606 Empire1

A vinegar-hot pepper mix painted on to furniture that can handle it will prevent a lot of damage, too. Unfortunately, I didn't learn this until Frank had almost outgrown his chewing phase anyway ...

I'll remember that for 'next time'!
The best advice I can give any puppy owner is - if its quiet, he or she is up to no good! Gotta be eternally vigilant. Making a house puppy-proof is worse than making it baby-proof, but at least it doesn't last quite as long!

I'll never forget the evening when madmae, then still Miss Dog, somehow got into the bathroom and took the bleach bottle out onto the landing and statred chewing it ... general panic stations!

(No, no bleach went into her - but I nearly had a heart attack!)

664 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:35:59pm

re: #661 Occasional Reader

Him, too.


I was debating between Roddy McDowell and Joel Gray!

665 acwgusa  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:36:09pm

re: #651 Occasional Reader

... which uses a Microsoft operating system!

ID came out in 96. Windows 95 was the newest system at the time, so yeah, no Interstellar Travel using Win95.

666 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:36:17pm
667 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:36:25pm

re: #499 UncleRancher

ASTEROID FLYBY TONIGHT: Newly-discovered asteroid 2009 FH is flying past Earth tonight only 85,000 km away. That's about twice the altitude of a geosynchronous communications satellite.

That's two this month in the range of 0.2 lunar distance from impact.

So when does the asteroid hit Iran, sending everyone a message about who G-d supports?

668 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:36:26pm

re: #622 Kenneth

That's nice of you to say so, but let me ask you, did you speak out against it to your lefty friends when Bush was mocked & insulted?

Yep, and left Daily Kos over it last year. I did not like GW's policies, but never questioned his love of country.This was the only blog I found that had a web master that kept the really vile comments down. Charles opens the trap door when folks get too nuts.

669 The Other Les  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:36:58pm

Thought for the Day

If I attend a tea party (Probably the one at the state capitol on tax day) I think I'll make a sign that references both Ayn Rand and Wang Chung:

EVERYBODY SHRUG TONIGHT

What are your questions on this concept?

670 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:37:28pm

re: #651 Occasional Reader

... which uses a Microsoft operating system!

It's life Jim, but not as we know it...:)

671 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:37:29pm

Killgore- I saw your comment the other night about the I Ching. That is not the Tao Te Ching. I Ching is a Confucian text, not Taoist.

672 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:37:36pm

re: #662 Killgore Trout

When Zombie covers a protest he doesn't take random pics to create a representative post about a protest. He chooses the most outrageous stuff and holds it up as an example of what is tolerated at a protest.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you've never actually personally observed an "International ANSWER Coalition"-organized protest.

673 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:37:58pm

re: #650 filetandrelease

Could we fit Tehran in that hole in Arizona?

Tehran can stay. Natanz (sp?) needs to go.

674 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:38:01pm

re: #667 Kosh's Shadow
The only problem is it wouldn't just get the mad mullahs and the IRG.

675 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:38:26pm

re: #626 karmic_inquisitor

When the POTUS decides to have soldiers pay the bill for their battle wounds then he is deserving of EXTREME mocking.

I'm done arguing that he will not accept that CBO idea, and agreed that I would leave LGF if he did.

676 yma o hyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:38:29pm

re: #615 filetandrelease

So if there are no clouds in the sky tonight, and it starts raining...

That would be the least of my worries!

What if their dancing gets the asteroid out of kilter, and it changes its course?
What if they feel homesick and want to go back to the Emerald Isle?

677 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:38:44pm
678 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:38:55pm

re: #671 Sharmuta

Killgore- I saw your comment the other night about the I Ching. That is not the Tao Te Ching. I Ching is a Confucian text, not Taoist.

I prefer that ancient Chinese business school text, the Ka Ching.

679 DisturbedEma  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:38:59pm

re: #533 turn

Gibbs made that comment, OR pointed me here earlier.

[Link: lileks.com...]

Wow- if Tony Snow has every acted like that. . .even tought he was a class act, the left STILL rejoiced in his tragic death. . .bastards!

This putz is a total ass. . .

680 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:39:02pm

re: #636 freetoken

This is not 1775... and to pretend it is ... is just another form of demagoguery, in this case tinged (by some of the proponents) with racism.

What is the relevant difference in your view between now and then? Certainly we all have representation, but as the rich get their wealth redistrubted, the actual tax-payer is becoming a minority, the golden goose the ambitious dems can effectively tax w/o representing.

Quality of life is good now, and we're unlikely to lose the nice things we've created since 1776, but I fully support a bit of outrage at the thoughtless (at least to secondary consequences) policies of Obama, and I think that by and large this is completely without racism, where it is genuine, and racists are happy to pretend that it's all about race, like always, but that doesn't mean that they are right.

681 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:39:02pm

re: #662 Killgore Trout

I'd also like to add that I find the defense that "it's only a small minority and they don't represent the movement" is a weak excuse. When Zombie covers a protest he doesn't take random pics to create a representative post about a protest. He chooses the most outrageous stuff and holds it up as an example of what is tolerated at a protest.

a weak excuse for what?...they are a minority...so you condemn but offer no alternatives...how do you prevent a nirther getting their oicture posted?...what would you do to purge radicals from the tea party gig...you offer no solutions

682 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:39:03pm

re: #666 Iron Fist

That's not exactly fair- Killgore digs up shit on the Koslings plenty.

683 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:39:17pm
684 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:39:18pm

re: #666 Iron Fist


Kilgore has been looking for reason to write off the Republicans, especially Christian Republicans pretty much as long as I have been paying attention to what he writes.


Bullshit. Didn't I post a list of Christian candidates that I like and/or voted for that time you posted that lie about me? In fact all of the candidates I've ever voted for and probably all of the candidates I ever will vote for are Christians. 100%.
Stop with the smears and straw men. You should be above that.

685 debutaunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:39:28pm

re: #261 albusteve

a bunny hill full of snow is not a side walk...but I get your drift

Too cold to strip on the bunny hill.

686 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:40:02pm

re: #671 Sharmuta

Yeah, sorry about that. I keep getting the books mixed up.

687 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:40:08pm

First it was The Tao of Pooh
Now it's the Dow of Poo

688 midwestgak  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:40:11pm

re: #677 taxfreekiller

-784

...but I thought the market had already closed in the positive.//

689 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:40:15pm

re: #593 Zimriel

Iron Fist #457 and newsjunkie_ky #322 come immediately to mind.


Having read both posts, I must disagree, at least mildly.

However, if you have a facebook account (I do not), perhaps you can re: #639 Killgore Trout

I'm not really a supporter of the Tea Party protests anyways. I have so say in how they conduct themselves.

690 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:40:45pm
691 bulwrk  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:41:01pm

re: #597 UncleRancher

The listing says it's a 21 meter rock. About 65 ft. Object name is 2009 FH

I'm guessing that would be the equivalent of a fifty megaton blast.

692 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:41:02pm

re: #653 alegrias

* * *

You "fear" socons while leftists run the country into the toilet?

No - running a "socon" agenda will prevent us from taking things back from the leftists.

I could be classified as a social conservative insofar as my views on a whole range of topics. But I know that viewpoint won't win elections. What will win is focusing on liberty issues - taxation, generational debt, government expansion, and repelling the jihad.

693 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:41:11pm

re: #662 Killgore Trout

I'd also like to add that I find the defense that "it's only a small minority and they don't represent the movement" is a weak excuse. When Zombie covers a protest he doesn't take random pics to create a representative post about a protest. He chooses the most outrageous stuff and holds it up as an example of what is tolerated at a protest.


I think that he has been clear as to what is and is not representative of the view point, and what others there do and do not support.

694 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:41:12pm

re: #655 pingjockey

Malcolm McDowell, played Caligula and was in A Clockwork Orange.

Roddy played the damn dirty ape and the vampire hunter

695 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:41:35pm

re: #683 buzzsawmonkey

re: #683 buzzsawmonkey

See #310. It's classic racist imagery.

696 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:41:41pm
697 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:41:56pm

I'm wearing my green shirt, and my orange tie!

698 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:42:00pm

Why are you worrying about
You-Know-Who?
You should be worrying about
U-No-Poo

699 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:42:07pm

re: #662 Killgore Trout

I'd also like to add that I find the defense that "it's only a small minority and they don't represent the movement" is a weak excuse. When Zombie covers a protest he doesn't take random pics to create a representative post about a protest. He chooses the most outrageous stuff and holds it up as an example of what is tolerated at a protest.


Were those pictures on signs at Tea Party rallies? NO, they were not.

700 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:42:07pm

re: #664 jamgarr

I was debating between Roddy McDowell and Joel Gray!

Joel Grey rocks!


701 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:42:24pm

re: #687 jamgarr

That's funny. I'm going to have to steal that one.

702 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:42:28pm

re: #698 Sharmuta

Why are you worrying about
You-Know-Who?
You should be worrying about
U-No-Poo

I knew you were a Weasley.

703 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:43:02pm

re: #700 MandyManners

Joel Grey rocks!

Youtube Video


And Jennifer's no slouch either!

704 KenJen  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:43:07pm

Any Lizards who have actually been to a tea-party protest please raise your hands.

705 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:43:28pm

re: #699 newsjunkie_ky

The are posted at a Tea Party site. They've been up about a week.

706 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:43:36pm
707 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:43:39pm

Facebook: a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

/

708 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:43:52pm

re: #701 Killgore Trout

That's funny. I'm going to have to steal that one.


Feel free.

709 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:44:11pm

re: #694 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Roddy played the damn dirty ape and the vampire hunter

Which vampire hunter?

(And, small correction, he wasn't THE damn dirty ape (the one to whom the line was addressed) of course.)

710 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:44:34pm

re: #654 itellu3times

The revolution is not a tea party.

I believe Stalin made that remark.

711 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:44:47pm

re: #696 Iron Fist

Wow, I never saw that photo, but it sounds like a good one.

BTW, my post was about one of our brave Canuck troops.

712 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:44:53pm

re: #694 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What movie di he play a vampire hunter? I know his screen debut was in "How Green was my Valley".

713 DEZes  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:44:55pm

Tough crowd today.

714 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:45:04pm

I was just over at a local mall, basically to get a little walk in, it's a mile around the whole place.

Well, I stopped in Borders Books and I noticed there was a WHOLE section dedicated to 2012, the year when, according to the books there, the year when quetzaquotal is coming back, or the alien lizards are going to reveal themselves or this or that space whatever is going to smash into the earth.

The funny thing was, of about the 16 different books in that section, each one had their own idea of what is going to happen in 2012, and not one of them overlapped in themes or concepts (except that shit was going to hit the fan).

Guy and girls, this is what passes for research and truth now a days. And we wonder how the Big O got elected, how AIG has managed to fuck us over, why Advanti sees the world through some screwed up lens...

I know why.

715 midwestgak  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:45:09pm

re: #706 taxfreekiller

#696

Obama knows, that is why he is going after them from where they can not fight back.

Targeting something/someone who cannot fight back is one of the requisites of a scapegoat.

716 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:45:20pm

re: #652 taxfreekiller

Thanks tfk. Sent out a note requesting the removal of said images with a link, and the banning of their poster.

717 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:45:27pm
718 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:45:54pm

re: #699 newsjunkie_ky

Were those pictures on signs at Tea Party rallies? NO, they were not.

what?...I thought that was the whole jist of the debate here...wtf?

719 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:45:58pm

re: #673 Kosh's Shadow

Tehran can stay. Natanz (sp?) needs to go.


By all accounts they do also have a nuclear something or other under Tehran also?

720 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:45:58pm

re: #639 Killgore Trout

I'm not really a supporter of the Tea Party protests anyways. I have so say in how they conduct themselves.

Sigh.

Then point out the problems, but ease up on the "it's over" bit.

Honestly, why are you picking an unnecessary fight? Are you that bored?

721 UncleRancher  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:46:27pm

re: #542 vxbush

Location? If it's going to be bright enough, I may try to take my son out and show him. Unless you mean that you have to be up at 2am to see it.

To find Gemini, locate first Big Dipper. Drawing a line from Big Dipper’s four stars brings you directly to Gemini’s bright star Pollux. Now that you know how to locate Gemini and Pollux, you can easily find also Castor which is on right side of Pollux.

722 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:46:36pm

Schumer to AIG: Give back the bonuses or we’ll tax them away


723 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:46:41pm

re: #719 Nevergiveup

Natanz, Bushere,... it's a long target list.

724 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:46:44pm

re: #695 Killgore Trout

re: #683 buzzsawmonkey

See #310. It's classic racist imagery.

Only if it's a photoshop.

Otherwise, it's just an unattractive photo.

725 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:46:44pm

re: #710 Dianna

I believe Stalin made that remark.

I thought Stalin said " Off with their heads"?

726 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:47:19pm

re: #714 Walter L. Newton

I was just over at a local mall, basically to get a little walk in, it's a mile around the whole place.

Well, I stopped in Borders Books and I noticed there was a WHOLE section dedicated to 2012, the year when, according to the books there, the year when quetzaquotal is coming back, or the alien lizards are going to reveal themselves or this or that space whatever is going to smash into the earth.

The funny thing was, of about the 16 different books in that section, each one had their own idea of what is going to happen in 2012, and not one of them overlapped in themes or concepts (except that shit was going to hit the fan).

Guy and girls, this is what passes for research and truth now a days. And we wonder how the Big O got elected, how AIG has managed to fuck us over, why Advanti sees the world through some screwed up lens...

I know why.

It's these damn computers.

727 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:47:23pm
728 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:47:27pm
729 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:47:33pm

re: #709 Occasional Reader

Which vampire hunter?

(And, small correction, he wasn't THE damn dirty ape (the one to whom the line was addressed) of course.)

PETER VINCENT, VAMPIRE KILLER! (Fright Night 1 and2)

730 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:47:36pm

re: #714 Walter L. Newton


I know why.

... the caged bird sings?

/you'd be PROUD of me, Walter, I have finished the first four episodes of LOST, LOL.

731 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:47:43pm

re: #703 jamgarr

And Jennifer's no slouch either!

I always thought he was gay.

732 jamgarr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:48:02pm

re: #722 Dustyvet

Schumer to AIG: Give back the bonuses or we’ll tax them away

Can you say "unconstitutional special legislation?" I knew that you could.

733 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:48:10pm

re: #720 Dianna

Honestly, why are you picking an unnecessary fight?


I don't feel opposing racism is "necessary".

734 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:48:24pm

re: #709 Occasional Reader

Which vampire hunter?

(And, small correction, he wasn't THE damn dirty ape (the one to whom the line was addressed) of course.)

He was a good ape.

735 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:48:31pm

re: #689 Dianna

I am sorry - connection problems for my keyboard have led to garbling, and now I'm so far behind I'm not sure there's any point in trying to restate.

I apologize.

736 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:48:31pm

does anyone have solutions?...or just hound a thing to death...blah blah blah

737 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:48:35pm

Hey Walter, I've taken your advice to heart, and am contemplating what new direction I want my life to go. Whichever way it is, I want it to involve bringing people and beauty together.

738 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:48:38pm

re: #733 Killgore Trout

I don't feel opposing racism is "necessary".

Dude, you stink.

///

739 itellu3times  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:48:39pm

re: #710 Dianna

The revolution is not a tea party.

I believe Stalin made that remark.

I thought it was Lenin, but Googling suggests it was Mao?

Whoever, in any case it's "ask the man who owns one".

740 formercorpsman  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:48:39pm

re: #662 Killgore Trout

To be on the level Killgore, I think it is a bit of a stretch to make a comparison between something like these tea parties, and something like the Folsom Street Fair, or other similar causes.

From what little attention I have paid to these tea parties, it is totally born out of the spirit of what is happening to the individual liberty, and Constitutional protections. Moreover, it is of the sentiment, and keeping with the image of what actually inspired this historic event to begin with. Opportunist abound no doubt, following your line of thinking could paint the families of fallen soldiers who don't physically confront Phelps morons to be guilty as well.

Most of what Zombie has sought out, and produced is not the ambivalent masses with people looking to ride the wave. I think naked bicycle rides, or explicit efforts to disrupt rush hour traffic are the sole aim of those events, not happenstance among what are otherwise normal people protesting unconstitutional encroachment by their government.

We do agree, the bullshit should not be tolerated, but making a moral equivalence is not necessarily fair.

741 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:48:54pm

re: #675 avanti

I'm done arguing that he will not accept that CBO idea, and agreed that I would leave LGF if he did.

I don't really care if you are done arguing it.

The fact that he has allowed the issue to swim around (and had a meeting with the commander of the AL where he, indeed, said he would push the idea) means that this man has no honor whatsoever.

If he is merely threatening to do this in order to score political points in other areas then he is scum. Those that excuse such are scum.

I suppose you aren't a wounded vet and must not know many - wounded vets live in constant fear that the VA will pull the rug out from them. They are used to jumping through flaming hoops and having to visit different VA hospitals to get treatment. Now they get to worry that they may lose coverage altogether.

In the military one thing I learned is that a leader does not lie, cheat or steal. Nor does he tolerate those who do.

Well BHO is either lying, cheating or stealing. And you are tolerating it as some cunning political move.

Congratulations - you have lowered my opinion of you yet further.

742 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:49:08pm

re: #737 victor_yugo

Hey Walter, I've taken your advice to heart, and am contemplating what new direction I want my life to go. Whichever way it is, I want it to involve bringing people and beauty together.

Mary Kay consultant?

743 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:49:15pm

re: #725 Nevergiveup

I thought Stalin said " Off with their heads"?

No.

Though he did once instruct, "Beat, beat, and beat again!"

744 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:49:23pm

re: #662 Killgore Trout

You hit the nail on the head. zombie shows what is tolerated at these events. We need to NOT tolerate these kooks, not on our websites, not in our protests. Call me fascist or intolerant, whatever makes ya feel better about yourself for allowing racists and kooks to tell the world "I'm one of YOU!"

745 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:49:25pm

re: #713 DEZes

Tough crowd today.

I've been tempted to hide under my desk.

746 midwestgak  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:49:33pm

re: #734 MandyManners

He was a good ape.

Good ape

747 itellu3times  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:49:51pm

re: #725 Nevergiveup

I thought Stalin said " Off with their heads"?

That was the Red Queen, but the mistake is natural.

748 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:50:00pm

re: #734 MandyManners

He was a good ape.

Cornelius was a good ape. Caesar developed a 'tude!

749 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:50:26pm

re: #729 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LOVED FRIGHT NIGHT! (Marcie was even cute).

750 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:50:28pm
751 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:50:35pm

re: #649 pingjockey

As far as I know the 1st amend. hasn't been overthrown...yet. I will make fun of who I damn well please, including our Marxist Prez and his America hating wife.

Of course you have that right, even the racists have the same right. I just personally feel that the office is do some respect, even if others on both the left and right disagree. I'll follow my beliefs, you can certainly follow yours.

752 DEZes  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:51:04pm

re: #745 MandyManners

I've been tempted to hide under my desk.


Ive just sat back and read. ;)
Hope today finds you well Mandy.

753 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:51:04pm

re: #717 buzzsawmonkey

How would you feel if Dkos photoshopped a giant Jewish nose of Lieberman? I could almost guarantee you we'd have a thread about it here. Withing the context of the other images the intent was pretty clearly racist. I don't know what else I can say to convince you. If it doesn't bother you then it doesn't. I'm not saying that you're racist, just that people have different sensibilities about this stuff.

754 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:51:37pm

re: #705 Killgore Trout

The are posted at a Tea Party site. They've been up about a week.

Not at a Rally BUT, on a Facebook group (page) that is OPEN to anyone that just clicks on 'join' and is then able to post whatever they want.
Apparently you are on FB, so comment or email the administrators and ask them to remove the pictures you find offensive.
Instead of taking some action you would rather pi$$ and moan here and try to slam a grassroots organization designed to educate the uninformed about the 0's socialist policies.

755 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:51:59pm

re: #714 Walter L. Newton

LOL! Brings to mind: Have you ever looked in the Christian Eschatology section at a bookstore? 2000 books on the end-times, all by the Experts, all say something different. I say screw the Experts. They were called Pharisees and such in Christ's day, and the Expert Train was wrong then about the Messiah. Why would any thinking Christian believe any Expert on the Matter today?
/rant off

756 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:52:06pm

so at a tea party someone should assault a nirther and steal his sign because he is a crackpot?...who is saying this is a cool thing to do?

757 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:52:10pm

re: #748 OldLineTexan

Cornelius was a good ape. Caesar developed a 'tude!

I kind of liked the ape rifles, which looked like they were designed by Antoni Gaudí.

758 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:52:10pm

re: #751 avanti

Of course you have that right, even the racists have the same right. I just personally feel that the office is do some respect, even if others on both the left and right disagree. I'll follow my beliefs, you can certainly follow yours.

Man, if you feel the office is due some respect, you must have been in AGONY from the moment Chimpy McBushitler was elected, because your "side" was flinging poo as fast as they could squat.

759 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:52:11pm

re: #738 OldLineTexan

LOL! I'm generating extra typos, eating and posting.

760 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:52:42pm

re: #718 albusteve

what?...I thought that was the whole jist of the debate here...wtf?

No, they're just on the facebook site, except for the nirther sign, which does appear to have been at one of the Tea Parties.

KT feels that those images doom the movement.

I think the owner of the facebook photogallery should probably remove them, unless he's the one who posted them. Certainly, it is correct to call attention to offensive material, that decent people would like to condemn (first, the decent people have to be aware of the offensive material); the problem is that some people are suggesting abandoning the whole idea of protesting government action to the lunatics.

761 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:52:53pm

Well, gotta run, have an appointment.

Sure hope it's with a McCain supporter.

762 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:52:56pm

re: #757 Occasional Reader

I kind of liked the ape rifles, which looked like they were designed by Antoni Gaudí.

M1 Carbines in some funky stocks that look like I made them. With a file and a chisel.

763 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:53:13pm

re: #753 Killgore Trout

How would you feel if Dkos photoshopped a giant Jewish nose of Lieberman? I could almost guarantee you we'd have a thread about it here. Withing the context of the other images the intent was pretty clearly racist. I don't know what else I can say to convince you. If it doesn't bother you then it doesn't. I'm not saying that you're racist, just that people have different sensibilities about this stuff.

What constitutes a Jewish nose? Oh wait let me look in the mirror...oh OK never mind.

764 Soona'  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:53:15pm

re: #692 karmic_inquisitor

No - running a "socon" agenda will prevent us from taking things back from the leftists.

I could be classified as a social conservative insofar as my views on a whole range of topics. But I know that viewpoint won't win elections. What will win is focusing on liberty issues - taxation, generational debt, government expansion, and repelling the jihad.

How about, now this is an absurd idea, voting for a candidate that will serve the US Constitution, as it's written, and the people of this nation.

765 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:53:25pm

re: #730 OldLineTexan

... the caged bird sings?

/you'd be PROUD of me, Walter, I have finished the first four episodes of LOST, LOL.

Really, you mean season 1, Pilot 1,2 and episodes 3 and 4?

766 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:53:32pm

re: #761 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, gotta run, have an appointment.

Sure hope it's with a McCain supporter.

Go keep our economy running, FBV!

767 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:53:38pm

re: #733 Killgore Trout

I don't feel opposing racism is "necessary".

KT? That was wildly unnecessary, uncalled for, and rude.

768 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:53:38pm

re: #758 OldLineTexan

Man, if you feel the office is due some respect, you must have been in AGONY from the moment Chimpy McBushitler was elected, because your "side" was flinging poo as fast as they could squat.

Something they have in common with the Guantanamo inmates, I've heard, if you mean that literally.

769 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:53:41pm

I'm debating whether or not to go to a tea party protest and take my kids.

Pro: They'll have to pay off a lot of this debt
It would be a good lesson in the exercise of their 1st ammendment rights. (Or, future rights.)

Con: If we do actually see racist pictures, I'm taking them and leaving. It could rain (April--Pacific NW--like that), and we just all got well. The children involved include a 3 year-old.

If I go, I'll let you know.

770 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:54:02pm

re: #679 DisturbedEma

Wow- if Tony Snow has every acted like that. . .even tought he was a class act, the left STILL rejoiced in his tragic death. . .bastards!

This putz is a total ass. . .

Snow was brilliant at the job, Gibbs is not the sharpest tack in the drawer. He'll improve, or get the bus at some point.

771 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:54:03pm

re: #765 Walter L. Newton

Really, you mean season 1, Pilot 1,2 and episodes 3 and 4?

Yes. I had to watch slowly because I can't think fast that late. ;)

772 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:54:23pm

re: #755 Taqiyyotomist

They were called Pharisees

As The Monkees almost sang:

Pharisee people
Pharisee trii-iibe
So proud to live
so proud to die-ie

773 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:54:27pm
774 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:54:28pm

re: #767 Dianna

I meant to say "unnecessary".

775 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:54:49pm

re: #768 nikis-knight

Something they have in common with the Guantanamo inmates, I've heard, if you mean that literally.

Yeah, but they all have to throw left-handed.

776 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:55:11pm

re: #742 OldLineTexan

Mary Kay consultant?

Well, you know what they say about having two barbers in town. Don't go to the one with the cleaner shave.

777 formercorpsman  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:55:20pm

re: #744 Taqiyyotomist

I don't know that much about this tea party thing. From what little I have seen, it appears to me to be born out of the spirit of a fiscally incompetant goverment.

From Zombie's works, it appears the issue is not exactly what is tolerated, morevoer, it is the original intent sought after to begin with.

778 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:55:27pm

re: #760 Dianna

No, they're just on the facebook site, except for the nirther sign, which does appear to have been at one of the Tea Parties.

KT feels that those images doom the movement.

I think the owner of the facebook photogallery should probably remove them, unless he's the one who posted them. Certainly, it is correct to call attention to offensive material, that decent people would like to condemn (first, the decent people have to be aware of the offensive material); the problem is that some people are suggesting abandoning the whole idea of protesting government action to the lunatics.

I keep asking what the solution is...facebook does not make the MSM...kookie signs on the street will...so how to move on?

779 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:55:27pm

re: #695 Killgore Trout

re: #683 buzzsawmonkey

See #310. It's classic racist imagery.

Those are repulsive, but that's not what Anthony Ukrainian posted on Facebook. If you're referring to the image of Michelle Obama, I will grant you it's apparently photoshopped to make her jaw appear more prognathous, which in context is probably racist in intent.

BTW, I sent a message through Facebook about the Anthony Ukrainian images, as well as the one Nirther sign from one of the tea party events, to the creator of the group. I urged him to take them down as they discredit the group's message. I believe reine.de.tout did the same. If he leaves them up, that will tell me what I need to know about him and his group. It would be really unfortunate if a good idea has been hijacked by crazy people, but that remains to be seen.

780 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:56:00pm

re: #736 albusteve

does anyone have solutions?...or just hound a thing to death...blah blah blah

I've made my suggestions.

Now, KT is suggesting that I don't think racism needs to be opposed.

If you agree with KT, well, there's not a damn thing that anyone can say.

781 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:56:04pm

re: #762 OldLineTexan

M1 Carbines in some funky stocks that look like I made them. With a file and a chisel.

I'm a little surprised, of course, that the ape rifles didn't have "banana" magazines.

782 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:56:15pm

re: #770 avanti

Snow was brilliant at the job, Gibbs is not the sharpest tack in the drawer. He'll improve, or get the bus at some point.

I think you meant "under", no?

;)

783 midwestgak  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:56:42pm

re: #770 avanti

Snow was brilliant at the job, Gibbs is not the sharpest tack in the drawer. He'll improve, or get the bus at some point.

Tony Snow didn't need to make things up on the fly. The administration he served had a direction. It led. Gibbs doesn't have a clue what's going on because the administration doesn't. IMO

784 The Other Les  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:56:43pm

re: #776 victor_yugo

Well, you know what they say about having two barbers in town. Don't go to the one with the cleaner shave.

I didn't know that. Why not?

(BTW: My barber is a lady.)

785 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:56:59pm

re: #758 OldLineTexan

Man, if you feel the office is due some respect, you must have been in AGONY from the moment Chimpy McBushitler was elected, because your "side" was flinging poo as fast as they could squat.

He was no doubt lecturing them constantly on the topic. It was a ceaseless and tireless effort on his part.

/ Avanti - you are so full of shit. Making the wounded pay the bill for their wounds should have you writing letters to your Senators. Instead you excuse it as something that isn't actually going to happen.

Shameful.

786 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:57:05pm

re: #753 Killgore Trout

How would you feel if Dkos photoshopped a giant Jewish nose of Lieberman? I could almost guarantee you we'd have a thread about it here. Withing the context of the other images the intent was pretty clearly racist. I don't know what else I can say to convince you. If it doesn't bother you then it doesn't. I'm not saying that you're racist, just that people have different sensibilities about this stuff.


Do you have proof that the picture is photoshopped? Mrs. 0 does have a pronouced underbite.
Google images and take a look for yourself.

787 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:57:19pm

re: #779 doppelganglander

Anthony Ukrainian also links to Glenn Beck on his facebook profile. Yeesh.

788 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:57:28pm

re: #756 albusteve

I'm not saying that. They should be confronted, at the most. Laughed at loudly, pointed at, loudly ridiculed, yes.

I wouldn't go so far as a Liberal and key their car or steal their sign or tell their little kids that Mommy is Evil or anything like that. Let the Perpetual Kindergardners known as the American Left do those things.

789 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:58:13pm

re: #769 EmmmieG

I'm debating whether or not to go to a tea party protest and take my kids.

Pro: They'll have to pay off a lot of this debt
It would be a good lesson in the exercise of their 1st ammendment rights. (Or, future rights.)

Con: If we do actually see racist pictures, I'm taking them and leaving. It could rain (April--Pacific NW--like that), and we just all got well. The children involved include a 3 year-old.

If I go, I'll let you know.

Why not use it as a teaching moment by pointing out that they're fucking morons?

790 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:58:29pm

re: #756 albusteve

so at a tea party someone should assault a nirther and steal his sign because he is a crackpot?...who is saying this is a cool thing to do?


a couple of loons.

791 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:58:38pm

re: #784 The Other Les

I didn't know that. Why not?

(BTW: My barber is a lady.)

2 barbers, who ever has the cleanest shaves means the other barber did it for him

792 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:58:41pm

re: #753 Killgore Trout

How would you feel if Dkos photoshopped a giant Jewish nose of Lieberman? I could almost guarantee you we'd have a thread about it here. Withing the context of the other images the intent was pretty clearly racist. I don't know what else I can say to convince you. If it doesn't bother you then it doesn't. I'm not saying that you're racist, just that people have different sensibilities about this stuff.

I really think you're over-reaching.

I don't like any of the submissions from "Anthony Ukraine". But an unflattering picture - even in context - is not a photoshop, and it's not racist, even in context. What it is, is pointless and tiresome.

Sorry.

793 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:59:01pm

re: #755 Taqiyyotomist

LOL! Brings to mind: Have you ever looked in the Christian Eschatology section at a bookstore? 2000 books on the end-times, all by the Experts, all say something different. I say screw the Experts. They were called Pharisees and such in Christ's day, and the Expert Train was wrong then about the Messiah. Why would any thinking Christian believe any Expert on the Matter today?
/rant off

Upding!

794 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:59:44pm

re: #772 Occasional Reader

between you and buzz, I swear...
:)

795 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:59:45pm

re: #781 Occasional Reader

I'm a little surprised, of course, that the ape rifles didn't have "banana" magazines.

Hard to find 30-rounders, except for the Israeli ones.

796 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 2:59:52pm

re: #771 OldLineTexan

Yes. I had to watch slowly because I can't think fast that late. ;)

Good. I hope it sparked your interest and holds you attention, so you will watch the rest of the season (and seasons). Season two did tread water a bit, because there was some contract stuff that wasn't totally work out, and the producers/writers sort of put to much advancement on hold until they were sure of how many years they had to work with.

And let me tell you this, watch carefully, because the basic plot arcs were decided on from the start, so, in general, they are not just making this up as they go on, which you will start to see the evidence of that in season five (this season).

Very clever how the pieces of this story start to come together at this point. And of course, they are getting everything set up for the final season, season 6, next year.

797 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:00:27pm
798 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:00:42pm

re: #781 Occasional Reader

I'm a little surprised, of course, that the ape rifles didn't have "banana" magazines.

Dole, or Chiquita? ;-p

799 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:01:16pm

re: #780 Dianna

I've made my suggestions.

Now, KT is suggesting that I don't think racism needs to be opposed.

If you agree with KT, well, there's not a damn thing that anyone can say.

how do oppose racism via a cartoon or a sign at a demonstration?...you can't...all these lofty words mean little where the rubber hits the road...taking some high intellectual position on a blog means little on the street...tha'ts what I'm saying...people have a right to be as kookie as they want and they will go for the camera...does this sink the tea party thing...I don't think so

800 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:01:18pm

re: #779 doppelganglander

I sent a message to the link provided by tfk, since I have no facebook account, with no desire to get one.

801 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:01:28pm

re: #774 Killgore Trout

I meant to say "unnecessary".

I got that.

Your remark remains rude, offensive and uncalled for.

802 Learned Mother of Zion  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:01:35pm

Olmert rejects Hamas demands for Shalit

This only confirms what I have believed for a long time: that Shalit HY"D is not alive.

803 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:02:25pm

re: #741 karmic_inquisitor

I don't really care if you are done arguing it.

Congratulations - you have lowered my opinion of you yet further.

And that won't change when you find out you've made much ado about nothing when BHO does not accept that CBO suggestion or the one to remove a half million vets from the rolls. Ask yourself this simple question: Why would he commit political suicide to save 500 million dollars, yet increase the VA's budget by 25 billion ? We'll know the answer in a few days.

804 OldLineTexan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:02:46pm

re: #796 Walter L. Newton

Good. I hope it sparked your interest and holds you attention, so you will watch the rest of the season (and seasons). Season two did tread water a bit, because there was some contract stuff that wasn't totally work out, and the producers/writers sort of put to much advancement on hold until they were sure of how many years they had to work with.

And let me tell you this, watch carefully, because the basic plot arcs were decided on from the start, so, in general, they are not just making this up as they go on, which you will start to see the evidence of that in season five (this season).

Very clever how the pieces of this story start to come together at this point. And of course, they are getting everything set up for the final season, season 6, next year.

I really enjoyed most of it. I have a few more nights before I lose my TV room for a week, so I am concentrating on remembering the little odd moments that I am sure become more significant. One question: where's a good "who's who" cheatsheet?

805 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:03:21pm

re: #786 newsjunkie_ky

Do you have proof that the picture is photoshopped? Mrs. 0 does have a pronouced underbite.
Google images and take a look for yourself.

That's exactly what I did. It's hard to find a picture of her in profile -- it's definitely not her best side. But I did come up with this: [Link: www.observer.com...]

Now tell me that other picture wasn't Photoshopped.

806 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:03:54pm

re: #802 Alouette

Olmert rejects Hamas demands for Shalit

This only confirms what I have believed for a long time: that Shalit HY"D is not alive.

I agree; I don't think he's alive. Olmert should have long ago demanded that Hamas release Shalit, or have a can of whuppass opened on them.

807 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:04:12pm

Hmmm.. the Obama Administration has quietly reinstated Vivek Kundra as their CIO. They say the reinstatement speaks for itself (and comes after reports indicate that he had a juve-record). Hmmm.. not quite sure whether that the message Obama is sending is the one he wants to send.

808 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:04:26pm

re: #782 nikis-knight

I think you meant "under", no?

;)

Yep, under the bus for sure.

809 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:04:44pm

re: #803 avanti

And that won't change when you find out you've made much ado about nothing when BHO does not accept that CBO suggestion or the one to remove a half million vets from the rolls. Ask yourself this simple question: Why would he commit political suicide to save 500 million dollars, yet increase the VA's budget by 25 billion ? We'll know the answer in a few days.

because he is a lunatic...why would he not accept his own proposal?...he is an unstable fraud

810 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:05:09pm
811 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:05:20pm
812 godfrey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:05:47pm

Give O time, tfk. He and his crew are certainly willing.

813 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:06:00pm

re: #799 albusteve

Nonsense.

If you see a nirther sign, point and laugh.

If you see something racist, speak up. Other people will support you, once you do; folks get awfully shy about raising objections to other people in a group because they don't want to draw wrath down on themselves.

All it takes is a little gumption.

814 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:06:05pm

re: #796 Walter L. Newton

And let me tell you this, watch carefully, because the basic plot arcs were decided on from the start, so, in general, they are not just making this up as they go on, which you will start to see the evidence of that in season five (this season).

This is why I like Naruto and it's sequel, Naruto Shippuden. 300+ episodes, incredible story, puts to shame anything ever animated in America. I see Scooby Doo and I want to cry for the art. (not really, not an emo.) Shorts were good for Americans, I guess. I prefer EPIC.

815 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:06:26pm

re: #804 OldLineTexan

I really enjoyed most of it. I have a few more nights before I lose my TV room for a week, so I am concentrating on remembering the little odd moments that I am sure become more significant. One question: where's a good "who's who" cheatsheet?

Poke around Lostpedia. But be a bit careful, since it has 5 seasons worth of information on characters, plots, episodes etc.

Here is a Lostpedia article on the "degrees of separation" of the characters. As you may already realize, these characters are more "connected" to each other than they realize at this point.

Stop reading this article if you think it is to much of a "spoiler."

[Link: lostpedia.wikia.com...]

816 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:07:04pm

re: #785 karmic_inquisitor

He was no doubt lecturing them constantly on the topic. It was a ceaseless and tireless effort on his part.

/ Avanti - you are so full of shit. Making the wounded pay the bill for their wounds should have you writing letters to your Senators. Instead you excuse it as something that isn't actually going to happen.

Shameful.

Write the letters to the CBO, they came up with that idea and a few dozen others last year. There is no need to excuse someone for a act they will not do.

817 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:07:16pm

re: #810 Iron Fist

To put a face, body language, physical construct over what we have gleaned from limited communication is often quite interesting. I've found that most of the people I've met were actually very similar to what I thought of them.

You mean like my startling resemblance to Daniel Craig, for instance?

818 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:07:34pm

re: #809 albusteve

because he is a lunatic...why would he not accept his own proposal?...he is an unstable fraud

As Jim Gerghity of NR says, all of Obama's promises come with expiration dates.

819 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:07:42pm

re: #802 Alouette

Olmert rejects Hamas demands for Shalit

This only confirms what I have believed for a long time: that Shalit HY"D is not alive.

I tend to agree with you, but I really feel sorry for the way his family is being jerked all over the place and having exaggerated expectations put in front of them. Its terrible. And Hamas does that on purpose.

820 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:08:23pm

re: #801 Dianna

Your remark remains rude, offensive and uncalled for.


We'll just have to disagree then. I find opposing racism necessary and I don't think doing so is rude.

821 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:08:52pm

My posting is going to be intermittent, my IE has gone batshit. It keeps kicking me off of LGF. This is the ONLY website it does this. Get the little box that says IE has encountered a problem and needs to close.

822 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:09:33pm

re: #802 Alouette

Olmert rejects Hamas demands for Shalit

This only confirms what I have believed for a long time: that Shalit HY"D is not alive.

And Hamas can and will claim that he was alive until Operation Cast Lead, when they squawked that Shalit was located where some of the Israeli airstrikes hit.

I haven't thought that Shalit was alive for some time. I wish I were mistaken in that belief, but there's been no evidence to the contrary. Hamas refuses to provide access to the ICRC or Red Crescent to show that he's alive, and Hamas demands are the same as they have ever been - release hundreds of terrorists and Hamas would in turn release Shalit. Maybe.

Olmert has failed the Shalit family and all Israelis in failing to go after Hamas and refusing to deal with the situation from day 1. He has enabled Hamas through his actions, and any deal with the terrorist group will only serve to benefit Hamas and undermine Israel's security needs.

823 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:10:05pm
824 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:10:19pm

re: #821 pingjockey

My posting is going to be intermittent, my IE has gone batshit. It keeps kicking me off of LGF. This is the ONLY website it does this. Get the little box that says IE has encountered a problem and needs to close.

download firefox?

825 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:10:29pm

re: #814 Taqiyyotomist

This is why I like Naruto and it's sequel, Naruto Shippuden. 300+ episodes, incredible story, puts to shame anything ever animated in America. I see Scooby Doo and I want to cry for the art. (not really, not an emo.) Shorts were good for Americans, I guess. I prefer EPIC.

I'm not aware of the story you are talking about. It's unusual, but I don't watch ANY TV, except for 1 hour of LOST every week that it's on. I got hook on it on Jan. 1st, 2008, watch all 3 seasons before season 4 debut on Feb 28th, 2008 and now watching season five.

I find it to be one of the most clever (and well acted) shows that anyone has ever put on TV. I am amazed by the quality of the show.

826 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:10:48pm

re: #820 Killgore Trout

We'll just have to disagree then. I find opposing racism necessary and I don't think doing so is rude.

I never said it was not. Ever. Nor would I.

I reject - and resent - your implication that I would ever fail to oppose racism.

This is why I am offended.

827 itellu3times  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:11:03pm

Obama is coming to town tomorrow.

You'd better watch out, I'm telling you why, ...

Specifically, Orange County Fairgrounds, in The OC (California). News last night showed lepers and cripples lined up for the healing touch.

Thursday he does another rally in downtown LA, on the way to (or from) the Jay Leno show.

In between, I expect he'll be attending a seance with Rosie Odonnell.

828 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:11:10pm
829 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:11:24pm

re: #675 avanti

I'm done arguing that he will not accept that CBO idea, and agreed that I would leave LGF if he did.

It's not the CBO's idea. It's Obama's idea. The news articles I've read over the past week make that very clear.

Obama may have to drop the idea once he learns that his aura is no match for the political power held by organizations that represent military veterans and families. But it's 100% Obama's idea.

830 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:11:36pm

re: #811 buzzsawmonkey

I hadn't considered the possibility that it's not a photoshop. She does have a goofy lower jaw but I think it's pretty clear that it's an altered image. It has an AP stamp on it. I'll see if I can dig up the original.

831 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:11:38pm

re: #824 Nevergiveup
What is getting me, this is the only website where I'm having issues. Will it conflict with IE?

832 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:11:50pm

Interesting as this thread might be, I'm off to the gym.

833 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:11:52pm

re: #813 Dianna

Nonsense.

If you see a nirther sign, point and laugh.

If you see something racist, speak up. Other people will support you, once you do; folks get awfully shy about raising objections to other people in a group because they don't want to draw wrath down on themselves.

All it takes is a little gumption.

maybe so...I've not demonstrated since 1969...but the point and laugh strategy seems like it would take away from the thrust of the tea party itself...can you protest excessive taxation while chasing down nirthers?...my questions are tactical...there will always be protestors you don't want to be associated with

834 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:12:06pm

Hm, guess what? The photo of Michelle has been removed from the Nationwide Tax Day Tea Party's photo gallery.

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

Eric Odom, creator of the group, just posted this to the wall:

All, if you see photos that are offensive, REPORT THEM to Facebook. We cannot monitor and watch every image that gets submitted to a group of 10,000 members.

I'd like to point out that in my message to him, I did not specify any particular image as being potentially racist. The Nirther sign photo is still up, unfortunately, but I will go back and flag that one.

835 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:12:21pm

re: #809 albusteve

because he is a lunatic...why would he not accept his own proposal?...he is an unstable fraud

Do you not read, it's not his proposal, I've posted the link to the Jan 8th CBO proposal a half dozen times.

836 opnion  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:12:36pm

re: #809 albusteve

because he is a lunatic...why would he not accept his own proposal?...he is an unstable fraud

The fact that the suggestion was not dismissed out of hand by the BHO Administrationis despicable. People from Obama's Administration have confirmed that the proposal to screw the Vets is under consideration.
Did they run this up the flag pole to see who salutes or is this just Barry sending the Military a message of how he holds them in contempt?

837 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:13:13pm

re: #833 albusteve

Then don't associate with them.

Tell them - if they're near you - why you don't like their sign or whatever. Then walk away.

This is not complicated.

838 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:13:34pm

re: #827 itellu3times

Obama is coming to town tomorrow.

You'd better watch out, I'm telling you why, ...

Specifically, Orange County Fairgrounds, in The OC (California). News last night showed lepers and cripples lined up for the healing touch.

Thursday he does another rally in downtown LA, on the way to (or from) the Jay Leno show.

In between, I expect he'll be attending a seance with Rosie Odonnell.


Really? Crap, I wonder if that will tie up the freeways near me.
If I have time, I should stop by. I have three loaves of bread and two fish, I should be able to share with everyone at an Obama rally, right?

839 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:13:53pm
840 jorline  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:13:53pm

Good afternoon all.

I didn't agree with the AIG bonuses, but scares the shit out of me.

"My colleagues and I are sending a letter to [AIG CEO Edward] Liddy informing him that he can go right ahead and tell the employees that are scheduled to get bonuses that they should voluntarily return them," Sen. Charles Schumer said on the Senate floor. "Because if they don't, we plan to tax virtually all of [the money] ... so it is returned to its rightful owners, the taxpayers."

From the floor Congress will decide who and how much they will tax?

Schumer's comments came the same day New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo confirmed in a letter to Congress that AIG paid 73 employees bonuses of more than $1 million each.

Cuomo also wrote that 11 of the employees no longer work for the company. The largest bonus paid was $6.4 million; seven other people also received more than $4 million each.

Schumer: AIG employees should return bonuses or face high tax

Nightmare on Elm Street.

841 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:14:34pm

Naruto!
and
Naruto Shippuden

I've seen all the Naruto episodes, working my way through the Shippuden ones. It's all one story, and is good. Subtitles are better, because the English voiceacting just sounds like a bad joke after you've heard the Japanese. This is what this Lizard watches. Unlike American animation, there is no Marxist moral-to-the-story with the typical Japanese anime. It's just good fun fantasy. (I won't comment on the dark side of Japanese animation, except to say that I dislike all forms of nihilism and hedonism, and a mix of the two is deplorable, so no, I don't dig the tentacle/robot sex stuff. Naruto is clean as a whistle, but good fantasy/speculative-fiction/ninjitsu fun.)

-Taq out, good late afternoon St. Patrick's all!

842 scuba mom  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:14:54pm

re: #822 lawhawk

i suspect they're taking a page from the hizbollah hand-book, and he'll be returned in a body bag.

843 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:15:05pm

re: #834 doppelganglander

I'd like to point out that in my message to him, I did not specify any particular image as being potentially racist. The Nirther sign photo is still up, unfortunately, but I will go back and flag that one.

Maybe that one ought to be left alone. It's merely stupid, not offensive (except to common sense and sanity, but hey, you can't have everything).

Taking it down would be "sanitizing", and people do need to know who they're likely to run into.

844 DisturbedEma  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:15:13pm
845 jorline  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:15:15pm

re: #840 jorline

pimf...but, this scares the shit out of me.

846 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:15:24pm

Cmdr. David K. Rehbein of the American Legion, the nation's largest veterans group, called the president's plan to raise $540 million from private insurers unreasonable, unworkable and immoral.

"This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate 'to care for him who shall have borne the battle,' given that the United States government sent members of the Armed Forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies," Rehbein said late Monday after a meeting with the president and administration officials at the Veterans Affairs Department.

"I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service-connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America's veterans," Rehbein said.

Roberts said that 11 veterans service organizations were told to come up with another plan if they didn't like this one. The groups met on Monday with Obama, Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki and Office of Management and Budget defense spending chief Steven Kosiak.

"What we've been tasked with now is to raise this money through alternative means and we're supposed to have a conference call in two or three days ... with Rahm Emanuel. So the implication was ... you guys come up with a better idea or this is what's going to happen," Roberts said.

847 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:15:54pm

re: #831 pingjockey

What is getting me, this is the only website where I'm having issues. Will it conflict with IE?

No, that it will not. I think it is better than IE. The only thing I use IE for now a days are all those Navy/DOD sites have to be accessed thru IE. I also use Safari alot, but not sure if they have a windows version?

848 godfrey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:16:20pm

I'm following all this closely through the last of my winter zinfandel.

849 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:17:03pm

re: #821 pingjockey

This is the only website that does a couple of funky things for me, even in firefox. I still have problems with the videos, I click the youtube vids and sometimes it locks up so bad I'm wondering if someone unplugged the commodore 64 it's trying to stream them through on, and I gotta ctrl-al-del to get out.

No other site does that.

850 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:17:29pm

re: #840 jorline

As I posted on this earlier - Schumer has been calling for billions to bail out AIG, and that helps Wall Street and the NYC metro area (Schumer represents himself, but voters from NY keep sending him to Congress). He knows that the money in bonuses will get spent in the NYC metro area - on everything from homes to cars to restaurants - all of which is beneficial to the local economy reeling from the lost jobs.

So in his infinite wisdom as a demagogue, he's demanding that the money be taken by hook or crook.

Outstanding.

851 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:17:35pm
852 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:17:53pm

re: #837 Dianna

Then don't associate with them.

Tell them - if they're near you - why you don't like their sign or whatever. Then walk away.

This is not complicated.

yes it is that complicated...if you do not want these people at your tea party then how do you deny them their rights?...people are so quick to disassociate from them but then what...point and laugh?...disregard them and walk away?...meanwhile they are still there getting their picture taken...all Killgores contempt is honest and true but quickly becomes rhetoric...you can't get rid of 'em...

853 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:18:59pm

re: #835 avanti

Do you not read, it's not his proposal, I've posted the link to the Jan 8th CBO proposal a half dozen times.

his , hers, theirs...he supports it...he's the CEO and it's his thing now

854 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:19:29pm

Addendum to my #834: Flagging an image in Facebook reports it to Facebook, not the image owner. As far as I can tell, the Nirther sign photo does not violate Facebook's Terms of Use.

Facebook removes photos for attacking an individual or group if:

* the photo has been edited to attack an individual or group
* the caption or tags attack an individual or group
* the image is hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable

Facebook will not remove a photo for attacking an individual or group if:

* the photo is simply unflattering
* the individual pictured does not like the way it looks
* the photo does not violate our Terms of Use


Of course you can still complain to the image owner. In this case, I suspect the group is okay with the sign, which means I have no interest in joining the group. That wouldn't stop me from going to a Tea Party, however, where I could directly confront the person and try to change their mind. (Futile, I know.)

855 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:19:37pm

re: #844 DisturbedEma

HELL TO THE NO!

Are they for real? ACORN is going to be involved in the 2010 Census? What the phorking shlit is going on in here?

856 Empire1  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:19:38pm

re: #663 yma o hyd

The best advice I can give any puppy owner is - if its quiet, he or she is up to no good! Gotta be eternally vigilant. Making a house puppy-proof is worse than making it baby-proof, but at least it doesn't last quite as long!

How true! I might also point out that you should never let your man put bacon in your purse to bring home for the dogs. A couple of weeks after I made that mistake, the purse somehow got on the floor, and next time I saw it, I'd lost a pair of reading glasses. These were adult dogs, mind, and would have ignored the purse except for the lingering bacon scent.

857 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:19:41pm

re: #852 albusteve

Your choices are:

Surrender to the fringe or speak up.

Sorry, but that's all the choices you get in a free society.

858 DisturbedEma  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:20:05pm

re: #853 albusteve

his , hers, theirs...he supports it...he's the CEO and it's his thing now

and he is not shooting it down either- offering tacit approval. . .

859 DisturbedEma  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:20:56pm

re: #855 Gus 802

Are they for real? ACORN is going to be involved in the 2010 Census? What the phorking shlit is going on in here?

Yes, they are serious. . .

860 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:20:57pm

re: #834 doppelganglander

Well done. "Tis far better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.

861 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:21:21pm

re: #843 Dianna

Maybe that one ought to be left alone. It's merely stupid, not offensive (except to common sense and sanity, but hey, you can't have everything).

Taking it down would be "sanitizing", and people do need to know who they're likely to run into.

You make a valid point. I was annoyed that it got two positive comments, but hey, you can't fix stupid.

862 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:21:54pm

re: #841 Taqiyyotomist

I've seen all the Naruto episodes, working my way through the Shippuden ones. It's all one story, and is good. Subtitles are better, because the English voiceacting just sounds like a bad joke after you've heard the Japanese.

For some good voice-over work, watch Cowboy Bebop in English. I prefer original language with subtitles, except in this case. Wendee Lee says in an interview on disc 1 that people have told her the English dub is actually better than the original Japanese, so I know I'm not alone.

863 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:22:12pm

re: #834 doppelganglander

Good news but it shouldn't have taken a Dkos diary to get them to take it down.

864 acwgusa  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:23:03pm

re: #844 DisturbedEma

HELL TO THE NO!

America, it was nice while it lasted.

865 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:23:57pm

re: #847 Nevergiveup

Well I'm on FF so we'll see what happens! Thanks.

866 Dianna  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:24:29pm

re: #861 doppelganglander

You make a valid point. I was annoyed that it got two positive comments, but hey, you can't fix stupid.

Unfortunately, no.

Anyway, I'm out.

Take care.

867 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:24:35pm

re: #551 buzzsawmonkey

Serious question, Killgore: if the picture is merely an unattractive one of Michelle Obama, and not photoshopped, how is it racist?

Unflattering, I grant you. But "racist?"

re: #683 buzzsawmonkey

assuming that it is merely an unflattering picture of Michelle Obama--is "racist"?


IMHO, clearly photoshopped. The link may not work. I think the photo's been taken down, but it's still in my cache.

868 jorline  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:25:06pm

Gun Advocates Ready for Battle on Federal Assault Weapons Ban


Attorney General Eric Holder is using the drug violence in Mexico to "confuse and mislead" Americans in an attempt to reinstate the expired Federal Assault Weapons Ban, gun advocates claim.

"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to re-institute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder said. "I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum."

Holder is a putz.

869 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:25:18pm

re: #830 Killgore Trout

Some comparison photos:

Here.

Daylife has a whole series of photos and it's just my impression that she knows she has an underbite, which may be why we see her grimace rather than give a true smile. There are some photos where she has a genuine smile, and looks good, and there are times where based on where she thinks the cameras are - she grimaces instead.

As for the photo above, I think it may be a photo-edit, and the AP logo isn't particularly convincing.

870 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:25:18pm

re: #859 DisturbedEma

Yes, they are serious. . .

Then that's it. It's going to be over really soon if this doesn't stop. If they get their hands on the census numbers it will be wrought with fraud and have a major impact on future elections.

United States of America: 1776-2009

871 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:25:47pm

re: #862 victor_yugo

I have seen that, actually, and I did like it. My subtitle recommendation was not global, just for Naruto...I've heard both, and yeah, the voice-acting in English is just horrid.

872 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:26:03pm

re: #867 wrenchwench

IMHO, clearly photoshopped. The link may not work. I think the photo's been taken down, but it's still in my cache.

Ha... I have Facebook null-routed on general principles.

873 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:26:04pm
874 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:26:05pm

re: #868 jorline

The cartels ain't buying their guns in the US!

875 hazzyday  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:26:34pm

re: #56 MandyManners

I watched that exchange and flipped out. It was another BLAME BUSH moment. It followed the exchange in which Gibbs said no one knew about the AIG bonus contracts until they read about them in the newspapers.

Gibbs would have known about them if he had taken the time to read the bailout measure. PresObama probably should have read it also.

876 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:26:39pm

re: #829 funky chicken

It's not the CBO's idea. It's Obama's idea. The news articles I've read over the past week make that very clear.

Obama may have to drop the idea once he learns that his aura is no match for the political power held by organizations that represent military veterans and families. But it's 100% Obama's idea.

Did you ever even read the Jan CBO report ? It looks like BHO may accept the idea to shift some costs to Medicare as per another CBO idea.

877 lobo91  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:27:04pm

re: #858 DisturbedEma

and he is not shooting it down either- offering tacit approval. . .

Exactly. If this was just some stupid crap the CBO came up with on their own, the first thing Obama would have said when the American Legion commander brought it up would have been something along the lines of, "Huh? Who came up with that dumbass idea? Of course we're not doing that!"

Instead, he was told to come up with an alternative plan to raise the $540 million.

878 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:27:10pm

Actually, I've not seen Cowboy Bebop, I was thinking Samurai Champloo...which was, IMHO, f***ing incredible.

879 DisturbedEma  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:27:15pm

re: #874 pingjockey

The cartels ain't buying their guns in the US!

We need more guns here, to keep them out of the wrong hands. . .

880 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:27:33pm

re: #875 hazzyday

Chris Dodd put in the amendment leaving those bonuses intact.

881 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:27:44pm

re: #869 lawhawk

I can find her in the same dress as the photoshop but I can't find an exact match. I have little doubt the image was altered.

882 Soona'  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:27:51pm

re: #829 funky chicken

It's not the CBO's idea. It's Obama's idea. The news articles I've read over the past week make that very clear.

Obama may have to drop the idea once he learns that his aura is no match for the political power held by organizations that represent military veterans and families. But it's 100% Obama's idea.

This whole deal with the vets has alarm bells ringing in my head. First, the idea is nuts. The nation loves its veterans too much to leave them out in the cold like that. It would never get off the ground in congress. On the other hand, this could be just a rope-a-dope for universal health care. The logic? If government-run healthcare is good enough for the wounded veterans of this nation, why not the rest of the populace. Nothing comes out of the offices of this administration without calculation.

883 screaming_eagle  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:27:52pm

re: #868 jorline

Gun Advocates Ready for Battle on Federal Assault Weapons Ban


Holder is a putz.

Bring it on. Let's get this over with. House will turn Rep in 2010.

884 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:28:04pm

re: #879 DisturbedEma

Totally agree.

885 DisturbedEma  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:28:38pm

re: #870 Gus 802

Then that's it. It's going to be over really soon if this doesn't stop. If they get their hands on the census numbers it will be wrought with fraud and have a major impact on future elections.

United States of America: 1776-2009

When we win it back- there will still be a place for you. . .try not to freak out just yet. . .:)

886 DEZes  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:28:53pm

re: #869 lawhawk

I was googling for images of M. Obama and came accross this frigning
picture

887 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:29:01pm

re: #876 avanti

Did you ever even read the Jan CBO report ? It looks like BHO may accept the idea to shift some costs to Medicare as per another CBO idea.

BO is the president...it's on him and you now...it's all BOs fault

888 Lincolntf  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:29:05pm

re: #880 pingjockey

Anyone know what Dodd pulled in from AIG and it's employees in the form of campaign donations over the years?
I'm guessing big dollars.

889 acwgusa  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:29:18pm

re: #868 jorline

Gun Advocates Ready for Battle on Federal Assault Weapons Ban

Holder is a putz.

Well, Mr Holder sir, those guns are illegally obtained. How did you obtain the hole between your ears?

890 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:29:31pm

re: #871 Taqiyyotomist

I have seen that, actually, and I did like it. My subtitle recommendation was not global, just for Naruto...I've heard both, and yeah, the voice-acting in English is just horrid.

I picked up Cowboy Bebop a few weeks ago, full set for $40. A steal. I watched it nearly straight through, and remembered why I stayed up Thursday nights in 2001 and 2002. And I damn near bawled my eyes out at the end of episode 24, when Faye found her old home, and Radical Edward and Ein took off.

Still chokes me up.

891 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:29:34pm

re: #882 Soona'

Our resident moonbat senator Patty Murray, said that such a bill would be 'dead on arrival". I was amazed. BTW, speaking of dead, today was the last day for the Seattle PI print edition!

892 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:29:45pm

re: #886 DEZes

I'm not going to be able to get to sleep tonight. *shudder*

893 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:30:26pm

re: #888 Lincolntf

AIG was one of his biggest contributors. Wink, nudge.

894 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:30:44pm

re: #886 DEZes

HillBO...hahaha!

895 DEZes  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:30:57pm

re: #886 DEZes

I was googling for images of M. Obama and came accross this frigning
picture

Frightening
pimf.

896 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:31:02pm

re: #890 victor_yugo

I particularly liked it when the dude (it's been a long couple years) was beatboxing into the pommel of his sword, while the other was relating the "story so far" in rap form. I almost died.

897 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:31:11pm

re: #878 Taqiyyotomist

Actually, I've not seen Cowboy Bebop, I was thinking Samurai Champloo...which was, IMHO, f***ing incredible.

I was always a Gundam fan

898 snowcrash  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:31:16pm

re: #834 doppelganglander
Good work!

899 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:31:25pm

Stephen Colbert hates and mocks Ayn Rand. So does that make Colbert the opposite -- a big-daddy government loving fascist? yep.

900 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:32:09pm

re: #895 DEZes

That just isn't right.

901 lobo91  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:32:36pm

re: #891 pingjockey

Our resident moonbat senator Patty Murray, said that such a bill would be 'dead on arrival".

Maybe, if it was proposed as a standalone bill.

It's going to be part of the FY 2010 defense authorization bill, guaranteed.

902 DEZes  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:32:37pm

re: #892 Taqiyyotomist
Sorry about that, I should have given better warning.

903 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:32:53pm
904 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:33:07pm

re: #885 DisturbedEma

When we win it back- there will still be a place for you. . .try not to freak out just yet. . .:)

OK, it was an acute attack and nothing chronic -- I hope.

905 rightymouse  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:33:24pm

re: #831 pingjockey

What is getting me, this is the only website where I'm having issues. Will it conflict with IE?

Did you check the MS website for updates?

Also, check your settings in IE.

If all else fails, download Firefox.

906 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:33:24pm

re: #899 FrogMarch

Stephen Colbert hates and mocks Ayn Rand. So does that make Colbert the opposite -- a big-daddy government loving fascist? yep.

He hates her because she speaks the truth, the real truth to power. After all, she lived it.

907 DEZes  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:33:33pm

re: #900 pingjockey

;)

908 jorline  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:33:41pm

re: #874 pingjockey

The cartels ain't buying their guns in the US!

I'm sure there are plenty of groups/countries willing to supply the cartels. The government is claiming a lot of the guns come out of Houston.

Houston called top gun supplier for Mexican drug cartels

Drug Cartels Skirt Mexican Gun Laws by Smuggling in Guns from Houston

909 The Other Les  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:33:53pm

re: #836 opnion

The fact that the suggestion was not dismissed out of hand by the BHO Administrationis despicable. People from Obama's Administration have confirmed that the proposal to screw the Vets is under consideration.
Did they run this up the flag pole to see who salutes or is this just Barry sending the Military a message of how he holds them in contempt?

One thing I noticed when I was at the Benning School for Boys was that while many of Luttwak's works could be found at the main post library, his handbook on performing a coup d'etat could not be found.

910 summergurl  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:34:02pm

re: #888 Lincolntf

Anyone know what Dodd pulled in from AIG and it's employees in the form of campaign donations over the years?
I'm guessing big dollars.


Hannity said $103,000

911 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:34:03pm

re: #905 rightymouse

Did you check the MS website for updates?

Also, check your settings in IE.

If all else fails, download Firefox.

Already done, see above.

912 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:34:03pm

re: #901 lobo91

I have no idea of how many vets there are but this one issue alone ought to tell the American people where this Admins priorities are.

913 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:34:56pm

re: #905 rightymouse

I did. No frakkin' issues. Checked for updates, etc...No change. So here I am of FF.

914 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:35:00pm
915 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:35:20pm

re: #899 FrogMarch

Stephen Colbert hates and mocks Ayn Rand. So does that make Colbert the opposite -- a big-daddy government loving fascist? yep.

I'm going over to my local Moonbat bookstore later and picking up a copy of "Atlas Shrugged." Colbert is a shmuck and another unfunny Democrat Communist party hack pretending to be comedian.

916 DisturbedEma  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:35:29pm

re: #904 Gus 802

OK, it was an acute attack and nothing chronic -- I hope.

Hope is only a 4 letter word when dear leader uses it- we are not trusting in hope, we are carriers of it. . .

917 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:35:35pm

re: #912 pingjockey

I have no idea of how many vets there are but this one issue alone ought to tell the American people where this Admins priorities are.

some vets don't even get it...split hairs and make silly excuses

918 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:35:45pm

re: #897 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Gah! There it went. Complete Firefox lockup when I try to click on an embedded video. No other site does this. What, the Youtube videos are fed through the Mars Rover, relayed out to Voyager I, and then back here?

919 UFO TOFU  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:35:47pm
920 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:36:15pm
921 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:37:04pm
Democrats in Congress are organizing to squash a White House proposal that would require veterans to use private insurance to pay for treatment of their combat and service-related injuries.

In a letter being sent to the White House, a group of House Democrats, led by Rep. Glenn Nye (D-VA), warned that such a proposal "could harm our veterans and their families in unintended, yet very serious ways, jeopardizing their families' health care and even negatively affecting veterans' employment opportunities."

"While we strongly support your plans to increase funding for the VA by $25 billion over the next five years," the letter reads, "it is with equal conviction that we oppose the proposal to bill veterans' private health insurance plans for care and treatment of service-connected injuries or disabilities."

Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick (D-Ariz.) is leading a similar effort in coordination with Nye. Her letter is even more forcefully worded, calling the White House proposal "deeply troubling" and charging that it "ignores the mission of the VA."

"We cannot compromise on the promise we have made to those who serve our Nation," Kirkpatrick states.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

922 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:37:33pm

re: #903 buzzsawmonkey

I'd also like to add that I actually enjoy racial humor. I listen to shock jocks on satellite radio everyday. I think most of it is funny. Same goes for standup comedy, cartoons, movies, etc. I like that stuff. However, in a political context it takes on a whole new meaning. I have no objection to Howard Stern saying things on the radio but if Coulter were to say the same thing at CPAC then the context changes how i feel about it.

923 opnion  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:37:43pm

If the Michelle Obama photo is altered, it would be hard to argue that it is not racist. On the other hand, if she got caught at the absolute worst angle & took a heinous picture that is another matter.
There were lots of unflattering pictures of Bush & they even tried to make Palin look bad.
IMO, no matter how you slice it Michelle is just a bad looking woman.

924 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:38:00pm

re: #908 jorline

Hmmm. I can't see Houston as a hot bed of fully auto weapons like the cartels seem to have. I guess the could be buying semi-autos and having them converted. But why? They've got a ton of cash, the can buy full auto. The problem is finding them. Then again, I've never tried to buy a full auto weapon, so I have no idea how hard it would be.

925 NY Nana  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:38:33pm

Getting back to Michelle Obama, no Photoshop nor any valid photo op can negate this, the real Michelle Obama:

926 jorline  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:38:37pm

re: #908 jorline

I'm sure there are plenty of groups/countries willing to supply the cartels. The government is claiming a lot of the guns come out of Houston.

Houston called top gun supplier for Mexican drug cartels

Drug Cartels Skirt Mexican Gun Laws by Smuggling in Guns from Houston

Hey ping, did I just quote the government?

Quick...put me out of my misery...lol

927 stonemason  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:38:51pm

re: #910 summergurl

Hannity said $103,000

$103,000 was just for the 2008 cycle, it is much more than that over his career, for sure.

928 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:39:18pm

re: #865 pingjockey

Well I'm on FF so we'll see what happens! Thanks.

Well let me know.

929 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:39:46pm

re: #920 Iron Fist

The only thing I questioned was his judgement. That was something he should have got out in the open, probably best if he did it when Oprah had him on (I'd actually forgottenabout Oprah doing that until just now.

I disagree. I said at the time that he was going to let the liberal haters in the press dig their own graves with their obsession over his DUI. They wanted GWB to 'fess up, but they gave Mary Jo Kopechne's killer a pass.

Bastards, the lot of them.

930 screaming_eagle  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:40:04pm

Holy cow. CBS just did a hit piece(for them) on Murtha.

931 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:40:05pm

re: #926 jorline

Who ya gonna trust? The gubmint or your lyin' eyes?!

932 lobo91  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:40:29pm

re: #908 jorline

I'm sure there are plenty of groups/countries willing to supply the cartels. The government is claiming a lot of the guns come out of Houston.

Houston called top gun supplier for Mexican drug cartels

Drug Cartels Skirt Mexican Gun Laws by Smuggling in Guns from Houston

From your link:

Agents working with their Mexican counterparts have traced at least 328 Houston-bought firearms to those groups since 2007, when the investigation was launched after an audit of a gun store's sales records.

The ATF knows when and where some guns were used to kill police, gangsters and others in Mexico, according to the documents.

Gun store owners are not charged with wrongdoing. They declined to comment and would not say whether changes have been made to keep cartel members from buying guns.

So...people who are apparently US citizens have been buying guns legally from licensed dealers, after being approved by the government-run "instant check" system, and then sending the guns to Mexico.

And the solution is to ban guns?

By that logic, the solution to drunk driving is to ban cars.

933 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:40:49pm

re: #930 screaming_eagle

Holy cow. CBS just did a hit piece(for them) on Murtha.

That can only mean he is dead meat and the vultures are circling.

934 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:40:49pm

re: #888 Lincolntf

Anyone know what Dodd pulled in from AIG and it's employees in the form of campaign donations over the years?
I'm guessing big dollars.

Our beloved Jammie is on the case. At $103,100, Dodd was the largest recipient of AIG largesse in the 2008 election cycle.

Who was number 2? I'm glad you asked. Barack Obama, junior senator from Illinois, received $101,332.

935 jorline  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:40:57pm

re: #924 pingjockey

Hmmm. I can't see Houston as a hot bed of fully auto weapons like the cartels seem to have. I guess the could be buying semi-autos and having them converted. But why? They've got a ton of cash, the can buy full auto. The problem is finding them. Then again, I've never tried to buy a full auto weapon, so I have no idea how hard it would be.

This is part of the reason...the cartels are setting up shop in Houston.

936 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:41:09pm

re: #928 Nevergiveup

Well I'm here and no problems. Font is a little different, other than that it seems faster...Yaaay speed.

937 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:41:10pm

re: #921 funky chicken

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Regardless of what happens we need to pin this on the Obama administration for the duration of his term. The fact that they even considered it should be a story worth repeating: this is your president America.

938 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:41:11pm

Ya know...our ☭ommander-and-Thief really wants to make me sick.

939 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:41:52pm
940 steve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:42:15pm

I just came across this from PJ Media:

Iran’s Push Into Nicaragua: Why Is No One Concerned?

941 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:42:17pm

re: #932 lobo91

By that logic, the solution to drunk driving is to ban cars.

Good, then we can get rid of the stoplights, too. Every street will be a play street!

942 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:42:31pm

re: #939 buzzsawmonkey

If you don't think that's in the works, just check out how difficult they are trying to make driving and car ownership in NYC.

Well I try and take the ferry to NYC when ever I can anyway.

943 stonemason  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:43:01pm

re: #934 doppelganglander

Our beloved Jammie is on the case. At $103,100, Dodd was the largest recipient of AIG largesse in the 2008 election cycle.

Who was number 2? I'm glad you asked. Barack Obama, junior senator from Illinois, received $101,332.


If I am not mistaken, they were one and two with Fannie Mae as well...

944 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:43:04pm

re: #939 buzzsawmonkey

If you don't think that's in the works, just check out how difficult they are trying to make driving and car ownership in NYC.

A lot of the people who are pushing for bike lanes are trying to make it more difficult to drive cars.

945 lobo91  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:43:19pm

re: #942 Nevergiveup

Well I try and take the ferry to NYC when ever I can anyway.

I try to stay at least 2 time zones away.

946 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:43:44pm

re: #945 lobo91

I try to stay at least 2 time zones away.

That works even better

947 The Other Les  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:43:53pm

re: #932 lobo91

So...people who are apparently US citizens have been buying guns legally from licensed dealers, after being approved by the government-run "instant check" system, and then sending the guns to Mexico.

And the solution is to ban guns?

By that logic, the solution to drunk driving is to ban cars.

It's easier to attack innocent people than to actually go after violent criminals.

Actually most of their solutions to various problems involve more violence against more innocent people.

Call it the Marxist Mental Inversion Syndrome in action.

948 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:44:12pm

re: #939 buzzsawmonkey

I had to drive a 15 passenger van in Manhattan. Since it belonged to y'all, the taxpayers(navy van) I drove just like the cabbies!

949 screaming_eagle  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:44:36pm

re: #924 pingjockey

AK's and SKS's are very easy to convert to full-auto, though it can only be used on auto from then on.

950 Pietr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:44:44pm

Good Afternoon Open, Lizard Nation...I have no joke to address the BO BS today, after my days of absence. Instead, I'll post a pictorial (Humurous,LOLCats) to say what I feel...

This is my view of how BO is administering:
I Need MORE

Unfortunately, I fore see this as his final hope to achieve it:
ACORN, Et Al

951 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:44:57pm

re: #887 albusteve

BO is the president...it's on him and you now...it's all BOs fault

Ok, fair enough. If he accepts that idea, or one of the dozens of bad ones out of other 110 in the report, I'll blame him too. I predict he never would, but the right will claim they stopped him when he does not. Had he dismissed the entire report, he'd have been accused of not caring about the good ideas in the report. It's the nature of the game.

952 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:45:22pm

re: #868 jorline

Gun Advocates Ready for Battle on Federal Assault Weapons Ban

Holder is a putz.

Wesley Clark was on Geraldo "Al Capone's empty vaults wasted several hours of my life" Rivera's show on Fox a few days ago using the Mexico situation to justify the Assault Weapons Ban. It vaguely went like this:

Clark: If we put that ban back in, they wont be able to get crates of full automatic AK-47s

Rivera: *wetting pants* I love you

Last time I checked:

A. Fully automatic weapons were illegal regardless of the assault weapons ban.
2. You cant buy "crates" of guns without an FFL and a BATF agent's nose up your ass the whole time.
D. Mexican drug lords, like *all* criminals, buy their weapons on the black market anyway. There are more AKs than people in some banana republics that are more than willing to sell to anyone.

Are people really this asininely stupid to fall for this?

953 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:45:37pm

re: #949 screaming_eagle

See, I knew I'd get an intelligent answer!

954 screaming_eagle  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:45:53pm

re: #933 Nevergiveup

That can only mean he is dead meat and the vultures are circling.

That's my take as well. When MSM turns on a Dem, he is toast.

955 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:46:04pm

re: #948 pingjockey

I had to drive a 15 passenger van in Manhattan. Since it belonged to y'all, the taxpayers(navy van) I drove just like the cabbies!

I think I saw that van on display at the NOSC with a sign about drunk driving?
/

956 LGoPs  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:46:20pm

re: #930 screaming_eagle

Holy cow. CBS just did a hit piece(for them) on Murtha.

re: #933 Nevergiveup

That can only mean he is dead meat and the vultures are circling.

Yeah, but it's interesting that CBS will apparently do a made-up hit piece on a Republican before the election. For Democrats that standard is relaxed so that they do the hit piece after the election.
The MFM are jackals.

957 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:46:37pm

re: #952 ArchangelMichael

Yep. See Nov.4 2008.

958 jorline  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:47:00pm

re: #932 lobo91

So...people who are apparently US citizens have been buying guns legally from licensed dealers, after being approved by the government-run "instant check" system, and then sending the guns to Mexico.

And the solution is to ban guns?

By that logic, the solution to drunk driving is to ban cars.

Lobo, read my #935.

What movie was it that said "They're Here!"?

959 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:47:29pm

re: #955 Nevergiveup

Mwahaha! No drinking and driving, just driving like a madman.

960 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:48:00pm

re: #958 jorline

Poltergeist.

961 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:48:07pm
962 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:48:30pm

re: #958 jorline

Lobo, read my #935.

What movie was it that said "They're Here!"?

Poltergeist

963 rightymouse  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:48:37pm

re: #913 pingjockey

I did. No frakkin' issues. Checked for updates, etc...No change. So here I am of FF.

So strange. Well..FF should be okay for you.

964 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:48:55pm

Since things didn't go so well with the state school board, Texas is pushing their own stealth creationism bill:

House Bill 4224, introduced in the Texas House of Representatives on March 13, 2009, would, if enacted, require the Texas state board of education to restore the "strengths and weaknesses" language in the Texas state science standards. The current standards for high school biology include a requirement that reads, "The student is expected to analyze, review, and critique scientific explanations, including hypotheses and theories, as to their strengths and weaknesses using scientific evidence and information."

965 opnion  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:48:58pm

re: #932 lobo91

So...people who are apparently US citizens have been buying guns legally from licensed dealers, after being approved by the government-run "instant check" system, and then sending the guns to Mexico.

And the solution is to ban guns?

By that logic, the solution to drunk driving is to ban cars.


Well that explains where Santa Ana got all of those guns to attack the Alamo. They must have come fron a New York gun dealer named Vinny.
If it wasn't for the evil US I bet the Mexican Drug Cartels would just get into legitimate businesses.

966 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:49:04pm

Note to the head of the VFW:

Alternate plans A, B, C, and D: Give $540 million less to the Palestinians, along with a book on "How Not to Start Wars You Will Lose."

967 jorline  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:49:23pm

re: #952 ArchangelMichael

Wesley Clark was on Geraldo "Al Capone's empty vaults wasted several hours of my life" Rivera's show on Fox a few days ago using the Mexico situation to justify the Assault Weapons Ban. It vaguely went like this:

Clark: If we put that ban back in, they wont be able to get crates of full automatic AK-47s

Rivera: *wetting pants* I love you

Last time I checked:

A. Fully automatic weapons were illegal regardless of the assault weapons ban.
2. You cant buy "crates" of guns without an FFL and a BATF agent's nose up your ass the whole time.
D. Mexican drug lords, like *all* criminals, buy their weapons on the black market anyway. There are more AKs than people in some banana republics that are more than willing to sell to anyone.

Are people really this asininely stupid to fall for this?

Rivera is a putz also and Clark worked with the UN...nurf said...lol

968 Summersong  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:49:33pm

Tuesday Afternoon

969 bulwrk  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:49:40pm

re: #908 jorline

Or how about stiffer drug laws.

970 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:50:35pm

re: #967 jorline

Rivera is a putz also and Clark worked with for the UN...nurf said...lol

Closer to reality.

971 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:50:50pm

Late to the Michelle photo discussion.
I'm with KT on this one.
And besides, even if the photo was not shopped or otherwise altered, what possible justification is there to display someone's image in such a horribly ugly way. Even an accurate photograph can be a vicious, racist, caricature of a person's normal image.
IMHO.

972 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:51:03pm

re: #934 doppelganglander

Our beloved Jammie is on the case. At $103,100, Dodd was the largest recipient of AIG largesse in the 2008 election cycle.

Who was number 2? I'm glad you asked. Barack Obama, junior senator from Illinois, received $101,332.

I've changed my mind. That lying, Commie bastard KNEW about the bonuses. He's just trying to cover his ass by whipping up angry populism.

973 lobo91  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:51:11pm

re: #952 ArchangelMichael

Are people really this asininely stupid to fall for this?

That was a rhetorical question, right?

974 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:51:19pm

By the way, I warmly and humbly accept the gracious thanks from all the Tea Party supporters for sparing the movement the continued embarrassment of hosting racist imagery. I'm glad i could help you guys out.

975 The Other Les  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:51:32pm

re: #952 ArchangelMichael

Wesley Clark was on Geraldo "Al Capone's empty vaults wasted several hours of my life" Rivera's show on Fox a few days ago using the Mexico situation to justify the Assault Weapons Ban. It vaguely went like this:

Clark: If we put that ban back in, they wont be able to get crates of full automatic AK-47s

Rivera: *wetting pants* I love you

Last time I checked:

A. Fully automatic weapons were illegal regardless of the assault weapons ban.
2. You cant buy "crates" of guns without an FFL and a BATF agent's nose up your ass the whole time.
D. Mexican drug lords, like *all* criminals, buy their weapons on the black market anyway. There are more AKs than people in some banana republics that are more than willing to sell to anyone.

Are people really this asininely stupid to fall for this?

Meanwhile in the real world...

"Good morning, this is North China Industries, how may we help you?"

"I need a thousand AK-47's and a million rounds of ammunition."

"And where are you?"

"Mexico."

(There will be the usual haggling including the service fee for bribing the local customs officials.)

"Thank you for buying from North China Industries, and have a nice day."

976 screaming_eagle  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:51:41pm

re: #952 ArchangelMichael

Are people really this asininely stupid to fall for this?

YES

CNN shows video of fully automatic weapons and claims the assualt ban covers them.

977 abolitionist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:52:02pm

re: #958 jorline

Lobo, read my #935.

What movie was it that said "They're Here!"?

Poltergeist.

978 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:52:39pm

re: #972 MandyManners

I've changed my mind. That lying, Commie bastard KNEW about the bonuses. He's just trying to cover his ass by whipping up angry populism.

LOL!

979 Pietr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:52:49pm

re: #912 pingjockey

I have no idea of how many vets there are but this one issue alone ought to tell the American people where this Admins priorities are.

BO made this very plain, when he couldn't make visiting the War Wounded in Germany a PHOTO OP-so he went and shot hoops instead,,,Nuff Said

Avanti, want to diss me for saying that, as you've been doing karmic_inquisitor?

980 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:53:04pm

re: #940 steve

I just came across this from PJ Media:

Iran’s Push Into Nicaragua: Why Is No One Concerned?

Because the MFM is covering up for ShortShit and his new buddy, Ortega.

981 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:53:07pm

re: #961 buzzsawmonkey

I used to ride a lot. During that time I always followed the rules of the road which is in my mind the same as driving a car. I would stop at stop signs and stand on the pedals.

These days cycling has been over run by a lot of brain dead MTV generation babies. I remember a couple of years ago I was following some bike messenger that was riding in the center lane of a three lane street in downtown. I was following him a safe distance but he didn't think so and flipped me the bird.

A couple of years after that I saw another bike messenger try and beat the light rail at a street crossing. He didn't make it but looked alive as I saw him being taken away on a stretcher. The light rail train hit his rear wheel and sent him flying onto a steel pole.

982 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:53:25pm

re: #921 funky chicken

And further down from the same link:

While giving the administration the benefit of the doubt that they may dismiss the proposal, Jon Soltz, executive director of VoteVets, nevertheless offered preemptive disappointment.

"We don't know if this is going to be the proposal, or if it is a serious consideration or not," he told the Huffington Post. "So, it's premature to go to the White House with pitchforks at this point. That having been said, if it is proposed, we would be opposed, and can't imagine any veterans group that would be for it. There's no appetite for it on the Hill, either. There are ways to eliminate waste at every level of government, though, including the VA. I think we'd all like to sit down with the administration and find areas of the VA budget that are redundant or wasteful, to make sure every dollar spent there is necessary."

983 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:54:23pm

Israel is set to become a kind of trailblazer for the F-35, which is being developed by the United States and eight international partners: Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Turkey, Canada, Australia, Denmark and Norway.

Israel has gone further than any non-consortium member toward acquisition, with plans to buy an initial 25 F-35A's in fiscal 2012 for delivery starting in 2014 and an option for 50 more.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

25 to 75 jets. And not until 2014+

984 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:54:34pm
985 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:54:39pm

re: #974 Killgore Trout

By the way, I warmly and humbly accept the gracious thanks from all the Tea Party supporters for sparing the movement the continued embarrassment of hosting racist imagery. I'm glad i could help you guys out.

No... I think you need to double check exactly what that means.
Not what you meant to say...

986 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:55:02pm

re: #982 avanti

If I wanted to read Jon Soltz's opinion I'd go to the Huffington Post or Daily Kos.

987 loppyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:55:10pm

My crush on the Jakester continues.

'Confidence' Men

Certain words in Washington, DC, have a way of conveying the opposite of what they're meant to convey.

It's not irony, per se, but a distinct political form of it.

"Confidence" is one of those words.

White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, January 31, 2009: “The president has confidence that Sen. Daschle is the right person to lead the fight for health care reform.”

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, March 17, 2009: “Well, first of all, let me say the president has complete confidence" in Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner.

-- jpt

988 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:55:16pm

re: #952 ArchangelMichael

Wesley Clark was on Geraldo "Al Capone's empty vaults wasted several hours of my life" Rivera's show on Fox a few days ago using the Mexico situation to justify the Assault Weapons Ban. It vaguely went like this:

Clark: If we put that ban back in, they wont be able to get crates of full automatic AK-47s

Rivera: *wetting pants* I love you

Last time I checked:

A. Fully automatic weapons were illegal regardless of the assault weapons ban.
2. You cant buy "crates" of guns without an FFL and a BATF agent's nose up your ass the whole time.
D. Mexican drug lords, like *all* criminals, buy their weapons on the black market anyway. There are more AKs than people in some banana republics that are more than willing to sell to anyone.

Are people really this asininely stupid to fall for this?

Clark and Rivera can suck my barrel.

989 jorline  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:55:31pm

re: #970 victor_yugo

Closer to reality.

agreed...and what the hell is nurf said?...crap, time to go home.

990 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:55:45pm

re: #985 nikis-knight

I used to be conceited but now I'm perfect.

991 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:56:04pm

re: #611 Killgore Trout

At first I was a little unsure but after looking at the other pictures in the stream (McCain slaughtering Africans and the questionable monkey cartoon) it's pretty clear it's intended as racist.

Bingo. If you can't tell if something is racist or not, it probably is; but when you pull back and look at it in context, the intent becomes clear.

992 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:56:22pm

re: #988 MandyManners

Clark and Rivera can suck my barrel.

You said that was MINE!

993 DEZes  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:56:34pm

re: #988 MandyManners

Clark and Rivera can suck my barrel.


Must resist...

994 jorline  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:56:44pm

See you later tonight Lizards.

995 Soona'  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:57:02pm

re: #952 ArchangelMichael

Wesley Clark was on Geraldo "Al Capone's empty vaults wasted several hours of my life" Rivera's show on Fox a few days ago using the Mexico situation to justify the Assault Weapons Ban. It vaguely went like this:

Clark: If we put that ban back in, they wont be able to get crates of full automatic AK-47s

Rivera: *wetting pants* I love you

Last time I checked:

A. Fully automatic weapons were illegal regardless of the assault weapons ban.
2. You cant buy "crates" of guns without an FFL and a BATF agent's nose up your ass the whole time.
D. Mexican drug lords, like *all* criminals, buy their weapons on the black market anyway. There are more AKs than people in some banana republics that are more than willing to sell to anyone.

Are people really this asininely stupid to fall for this?

Yes. Many are.

996 The Other Les  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:57:25pm

re: #979 Pietr

BO made this very plain, when he couldn't make visiting the War Wounded in Germany a PHOTO OP-so he went and shot hoops instead,,,Nuff Said

Avanti, want to diss me for saying that, as you've been doing karmic_inquisitor?

In one of his books, John Keegan describes an incident where Hitler's personal train is stopped at a rail yard and dinner is being served in Hitler's dining car. A train coming back from the Eastern Front carrying wounded soldiers stops alongside Hitler's train and Hitler gives the order to close the blinds on the dining so that the other train is not visible.

997 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:57:37pm

Also note that same racist posted the photos on the New York Tea Party Page and a McCain Facebook page.
/You're welcome.

998 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:58:18pm

re: #986 Gus 802

If I wanted to read Jon Soltz's opinion I'd go to the Huffington Post or Daily Kos.

Ah, I did not post a link to Huffington, I was replying to a previous one that did.

999 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:58:28pm

My chicken is done roasting. bbl

1000 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:58:32pm

re: #990 Killgore Trout

I used to be conceited but now I'm perfect.

Well good, we need all the perfect people we can get.
(Glad you pointed out the nut, though.)

1001 lobo91  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:58:40pm

Hell, if the solution to Mexico's problem is strict gun laws, then they shouldn't be having a problem in the first place.

Civilian possession of firearms in Mexico is 100% prohibited. It's Sarah Brady's dream state.

Funny how that doesn't seem to have helped...

1002 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:58:59pm

OK Morehead St. is a 2 1/2 over Alabama St. in the first game of the Big Dance tonight at the play in game. Anybody have a favorite?

1003 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:59:04pm

re: #997 Killgore Trout

Also note that same racist posted the photos on the New York Tea Party Page and a McCain Facebook page.
/You're welcome.

First link is mucked up.

1004 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:59:17pm

re: #997 Killgore Trout

Also on the Michigan Tea party facebook page

1005 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 3:59:31pm

BBIAB!

1006 steve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:00:04pm

re: #990 Killgore Trout

I used to be conceited but now I'm perfect.

It is hard to be humble when you are perfect in everyway.

1007 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:01:20pm

re: #1002 Nevergiveup

OK Morehead St. is a 2 1/2 over Alabama St. in the first game of the Big Dance tonight at the play in game. Anybody have a favorite?

Some other channel.

1008 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:01:33pm

re: #990 Killgore Trout

I used to be conceited but now I'm perfect.

I used to try to be perfect, but then I conceded. :-)

1009 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:01:39pm

00:36 Think tank: U.S. shouldn`t rely on Saudi Arabia to curb Iran influence (AP)

"Think tank"? Ya Think!

1010 DEZes  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:01:46pm

re: #1006 steve

It is hard to be humble when you are perfect in everyway.


Does he get better looking each day?

1011 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:02:15pm

re: #1004 Killgore Trout

Also on the Michigan Tea party facebook page


Sounds like a widespread conspiracy of racists numbering into the ones!

1012 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:02:21pm

re: #1007 victor_yugo

Some other channel.

That hurts. So I guess your gonna watch the World baseball Classic then?

1013 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:03:15pm
1014 steve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:03:21pm

re: #1010 DEZes

Does he get better looking each day?

I guess that would depend on who you asked.;-)

1015 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:03:35pm

Now really, how ridiculous is the concept of anyone smuggling AKs, or any weapons for that matter, into Mexico from the US? Much less the ammunition to make the things go bang. Which, the last time I checked (which was this afternoon) was selling for almost a dollar a round if you could find anyone who had it. I'd rather they'd smuggle into Maryland. They'd make more money. Just sayin'.

1016 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:03:48pm

re: #1011 nikis-knight

They're like cockroaches. There are hundreds for everyone that you see. Ignore one and you'll soon have thousands.

1017 debutaunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:04:53pm

re: #903 buzzsawmonkey

I will bow to those with more experience than I regarding the Photoshop judgment.

Once again, if the picture was altered then most of my comments above are mooted: I do not support the intentional distortion of pictures in this manner. Political debate is quite fraught enough without adding fakery to it--and the over-the-line comments of the poster in question are reason enough to voice opposition to his postings, and one can find more than enough reason to oppose Obama without dabbling in racial stereotyping.

I am merely saying that, where straightforwardly unattractive pictures are concerned, there is nothing about them that is innately "racist"--and to suggest there is is knuckling under to a PC mindset that I oppose.

Zombie has a gallery of unflattering Hillary photos. Does a Michelle gallery also exist?

1018 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:05:01pm

re: #1012 Nevergiveup

That hurts. So I guess your gonna watch the World baseball Classic then?

Nope. I generally don't watch sports beyond high school-level.

1019 Soona'  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:05:25pm

re: #1010 DEZes

Does he get better looking each day?

Only around closing time.

1020 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:05:35pm

re: #1004 Killgore Trout

Also on the Michigan Tea party facebook page

I just looked into these photos you have been talking about. That is certainly photoshop (or altered with some software). WTF are these tea groups doing? This is no better than the VB and BNP connections that other groups are getting into.

It the whole world returning to bigotry and racism as a way to make their points?

1021 DEZes  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:06:10pm

re: #1019 Soona'

Only around closing time.


Beer goggles. ;)

1022 screaming_eagle  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:06:28pm

re: #1015 Pullus Iulius

Wonder what the going rate is in Chicago.

1023 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:06:43pm

re: #1017 debutaunt

Zombie has a gallery of unflattering Hillary photos. Does a Michelle gallery also exist?

1. Turn on any LLL news program.

2. Wait.

1024 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:07:43pm

re: #1020 Walter L. Newton

I just looked into these photos you have been talking about. That is certainly photoshop (or altered with some software). WTF are these tea groups doing? This is no better than the VB and BNP connections that other groups are getting into.

It the whole world returning to bigotry and racism as a way to make their points?

there are two sides...black or white...racism is the new fashion

1025 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:08:37pm
1026 UberInfidel67  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:08:50pm

re: #730 OldLineTexan I wonder...Is Chris Sarandon as much of an ass as his exwife Susan? Hmmm

1027 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:09:28pm

How do you spell Class: B U S H

Former President George W. Bush says he won't criticize President Barack Obama because Obama "deserves my silence,"

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

1028 loppyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:09:37pm

I'm sorry he has cancer, really I am, but it doesn't change the fact that he is a mean, small man.

Imus threatens to shoot TKK’s Severin in Hub dust-up

Radio shock jock Don Imus threatened to shoot WTKK host Jay Severin during this morning’s St. Patrick’s Day broadcast in Boston.

The confrontation - which both Imus and Severin confirm - occurred shortly after 6 a.m. when Severin went up on the Wilbur Theatre stage during a commercial break to say hello to friends who are members of the “Imus in the Morning” cast.

On stage, Severin and Imus exchanged greetings before Severin walked away to talk to pals.

Imus producer-sidekick Bernard McGuirk quickly called Severin back over because Imus wanted to talk to him. Severin squatted down to speak with Imus, who was seated in a chair on the stage.

In a profanity-laced rant, Imus lashed out at Severin for telling the Herald and his listeners in October that he would no longer appear on future “Imus in the Morning” shows because he was tired of the I-Man’s insults.

Imus told Severin to get off the (expletive) stage or “I’m going to shoot you.”

Imus then repeated the threat and turned toward Severin.

“Do you (expletive) understand what I’m saying to you?” he said. “You get off this stage right now or I’m going to shoot you.”

Both Severin and his agent and attorney, George Tobia, confirmed the details of this account.

Several people witnessed the confrontation and were stunned.

Imus spokesman Matthew Hiltzik also confirmed the exchange, including that Imus said if Severin didn’t get off the stage he would shoot him. But Imus said it in jest, according to Hiltzik.

Imus' abysmal program is aired on the same station as Severin's very successful one. I wonder if there will be a showdown. Stay tuned...

Severin was one of Imus' biggest supporters after the nappy headed ho comment. And now this? Despicable.

1029 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:10:06pm

re: #1024 albusteve

there are two sides...black or white...racism is the new fashion

Which itself is exclusionary of Asians and the indigenous peoples of North and South America.

1030 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:10:09pm

I dig pink myself...

1031 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:10:25pm

re: #1016 Killgore Trout

They're like cockroaches. There are hundreds for everyone that you see. Ignore one and you'll soon have thousands.

With that kind of imagery they will only lose numbers and attract a minority of white supremacist types.

1032 loppyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:10:32pm

re: #1027 Nevergiveup

How do you spell Class: B U S H

Former President George W. Bush says he won't criticize President Barack Obama because Obama "deserves my silence,"

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

Jimmy Carter should take note.

1033 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:10:36pm

re: #1027 Nevergiveup

How do you spell Class: B U S H

Former President George W. Bush says he won't criticize President Barack Obama because Obama "deserves my silence,"

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

A nice way of saying "not worth my breath".

1034 Soona'  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:11:22pm

re: #1024 albusteve

there are two sides...black or white...racism is the new fashion

It's change. Don't you see? Don't you see?
/

1035 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:11:23pm

re: #1029 victor_yugo

Which itself is exclusionary of Asians and the indigenous peoples of North and South America.

don't complicate my race vibe dude...

1036 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:11:29pm

re: #1033 victor_yugo

A nice way of saying "not worth my breath".

If you dont have anything nice to say...

1037 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:11:41pm

re: #1020 Walter L. Newton

This is no better than the VB and BNP connections that other groups are getting into.


It's also the same as the antisemites who used to post over at dkos all the time. The excuses are always the same. They aren't really there, they aren't really bad, we don't want to alienate them, etc.. and when they get busted they always claim it's only a small minority or that it was a plant to make them look bad. We've seen this whole thing play out over and over with different characters. Everybody thinks it's going to work out for them if they ignore/accept unsavory elements into their activism. It never does but someone's always willing to try.

1038 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:12:01pm

re: #1036 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If you dont have anything nice to say...

Cut loose with a string of expletives?

1039 HelloDare  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:12:46pm

Jindal is on Hugh Hewitt's show right now. He sounds very lucid and smart about the stimulus. Let's hope they stay clear of creationism.

1040 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:13:39pm

re: #1031 Gus 802

I think the small number of Paulians in the Tea Party could be a bigger problem. Those guys are really zealous and they'll be really hard to get rid of if they get a foothold.

1041 nikis-knight  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:14:31pm

re: #1039 HelloDare

Speaking of which, Mark Sanford of SC is earning my respect for trying ot use the stimulus to pay down debt rather than grow government. Small, but it's something, and even that requires fighting the O.

1042 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:14:33pm

re: #1039 HelloDare

Jindal is on Hugh Hewitt's show right now. He sounds very lucid and smart about the stimulus. Let's hope they stay clear of creationism.

Exorcism too is to be avoided if possible.

1043 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:14:50pm

re: #1040 Killgore Trout

I think the small number of Paulians in the Tea Party could be a bigger problem. Those guys are really zealous and they'll be really hard to get rid of if they get a foothold.

Could be. Just found a link to Prison Planet over at the nationwide tax day tea party Facebook page.

1044 screaming_eagle  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:15:00pm

re: #1038 Nevergiveup

Cut loose with a string of expletives?

LMAO

1045 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:15:08pm

re: #1042 Spare O'Lake

Exorcism too is to be avoided if possible.

You mean unless you have to do one, right?
/

1046 The Other Les  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:15:52pm

re: #1027 Nevergiveup

How do you spell Class: B U S H

Former President George W. Bush says he won't criticize President Barack Obama because Obama "deserves my silence,"

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

That could be more damming than open criticism.

1047 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:15:57pm

man it's really hard to have a thread without heartbreak and strife...but I insist...

1048 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:16:12pm
1049 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:16:14pm

re: #1042 Spare O'Lake

Exorcism too is to be avoided if possible.

I was gonna say demons. Whenever possible, one should avoid demons.

/

1050 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:16:42pm

re: #1040 Killgore Trout

I think the small number of Paulians in the Tea Party could be a bigger problem. Those guys are really zealous and they'll be really hard to get rid of if they get a foothold.

The paleo Paulians, despite getting one or two things right about small government, are an anathema to me. If winning against the Socialists means allying with this scum, then fuck it, I'll move.

Australia looks better and better every day. If only their immigration weren't so tricky. Maybe if I change my name to Ahmed Mahmoud Mohammad it would be easier...

1051 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:17:44pm

I just checked the National Tea Party page, and the worst photos appear to be gone, and there is a message from the group's creator:

All, if you see photos that are offensive, REPORT THEM to Facebook. We cannot monitor and watch every image that gets submitted to a group of 10,000 members.

Thanks.

1052 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:18:17pm

re: #1051 reine.de.tout

Good. :)

1053 Pupdawg  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:18:33pm

re: #175 DistantThunder

They are filled with hate in general and they project that onto America. And they want to be lazy and self-absorbed and self-indulgent, and anything that reminds them of their responsibilities makes them furious.

Tragic for all of us.

If you are not liberal in America, you suffer from LSD (Liberal-induced Stress Disorder.

1054 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:18:42pm

re: #1050 Lizard by the Bay

Australia looks better and better every day. If only their immigration weren't so tricky. Maybe if I change my name to Ahmed Mahmoud Mohammad it would be easier...

Or "Amriki al-Azzam". See if they get it.

1055 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:18:43pm

re: #973 lobo91

I guess I was hoping that people who might normally fall for spin or exaggerations might possibly not fall as easily for outright lies.

Then I remembered I wasn't in ArchangelMichatopia where rationality, logic, basic morals, freedom, and individual liberty reign.

1056 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:18:49pm

re: #1041 nikis-knight

Speaking of which, Mark Sanford of SC is earning my respect for trying ot use the stimulus to pay down debt rather than grow government. Small, but it's something, and even that requires fighting the O.

he's a creationists or so they say...he's baked

1057 HelloDare  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:18:58pm

re: #1041 nikis-knight

One of the problems Jindal has with taking Stimulus money is that it forces a change in state government. The money must be spent in a certain way that that is often counter to current rules.

1058 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:20:07pm

re: #1031 Gus 802

With that kind of imagery they will only lose numbers and attract a minority of white supremacist types.

I'm not sure if this is going to cause lost in memberships. I see a trend. I see it in the racist groups in Europe, who are attracting a lot of mainstream followers, using the Muslim problem as a rallying point.

And I even see it happening here, on LGF. We've a a lot of "meltdowns" of long term and newer lizards, when suddenly a bigoted side comes out, a side that we hadn't seen before.

And we have seen it infecting lefty blogs like Kos and Huffington, and now we see it showing up on the "teac party" sites.

No, it looks to me to be a possible growing problem, and not just a little minority intrusion.

In my opinion.

1059 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:20:10pm

re: #1051 reine.de.tout

Proper tea parties don't have racists.

1060 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:20:42pm

re: #1043 Gus 802

Just found a link to Prison Planet over at the nationwide tax day tea party Facebook page.


Ouch. Isn't that an Alex Jones site? I thought he hated Michelle Malkin. I guess that isn't enough to get him to pass up an opportunity to ride the Tea Party coat tails.

1061 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:21:07pm

More on the non Obama VA plan, just in:


"VVA joins fellow veterans' service organizations in condemning the proposal advanced by the Office of Management and Budget to raise revenue by charging a veteran's private health insurer for services provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs for service-connected health conditions.

"However, as far as veterans are concerned, this is the best budget submitted by a President in the 30-year history of VVA." Rowan cited the proposed $25 billion increase above the baseline over the next five years; the restoration of health-care eligibility for veterans of modest incomes, which the administration predicts will enable half a million eligible veterans to access the VA health care system by 2013; and making highly disabled veterans who are medically retired from service eligible for concurrent receipt of disability benefits from the VA, in addition to the retirement benefits they receive from the Department of Defense.

link.

1062 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:21:55pm

re: #1048 buzzsawmonkey

That's why I'm sedentary.

That's a lie.

1063 The Other Les  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:22:16pm

re: #1060 Killgore Trout

Ouch. Isn't that an Alex Jones site? I thought he hated Michelle Malkin. I guess that isn't enough to get him to pass up an opportunity to ride the Tea Party coat tails.

Parasites are funny that way.

1064 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:22:21pm

re: #1060 Killgore Trout

Yes, it's an Alex Jones site. It was however a link added by a member which means it wasn't officially included -- I think. They should however remove it since the Tea Party protests should keep clear of Alex Jones and his ilk.

1065 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:22:40pm

re: #1051 reine.de.tout

I just checked the National Tea Party page, and the worst photos appear to be gone, and there is a message from the group's creator:

OOPS - a couple of things are still there. I've reported them.

1066 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:22:46pm
1067 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:22:50pm

re: #1050 Lizard by the Bay

My mom loves Australia and goes once or twice a year. She's even tried to talk me into moving there. i've never been but it sounds nice.

1068 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:22:53pm

re: #1062 Spare O'Lake

That's a lie.

It's a crewel lye.

It's a caustic yarn.

1069 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:23:08pm

re: #1049 EmmmieG

I was gonna say demons. Whenever possible, one should avoid demons.

/

Yes, and those demoned eggs are deadly too.

1070 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:23:10pm

I just watched the video put out by OMB..and according to the current administration, America's difficulties are the fault of the medical system. WTF?
And the economist...ho boy, look out Barney..

1071 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:23:36pm

re: #1067 Killgore Trout

My mom loves Australia and goes once or twice a year. She's even tried to talk me into moving there. i've never been but it sounds nice.

Any place with Emily Browning is nice.

Wait, did I say that out loud?

1072 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:23:41pm

re: #1062 Spare O'Lake

That's a lie.

You say poh-tay-toe,
I say poh-tah-toe

1073 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:24:07pm

re: #1069 Spare O'Lake

Yes, and those demoned eggs are deadly too.

And demon's-food cake.

1074 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:24:25pm

re: #1072 EmmmieG

You say poh-tay-toe,
I say poh-tah-toe

I say poh-tang

1075 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:24:31pm

vacation time!...let's go to Memphis!

1076 Soona'  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:25:18pm

re: #1069 Spare O'Lake

Yes, and those demoned eggs are deadly too.

And the demon-food cake.

1077 Mirage  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:25:30pm

re: #1069 Spare O'Lake

Yes, and those demoned eggs are deadly too.

what about deviled ham? :)

1078 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:25:44pm

re: #1058 Walter L. Newton

True. I'm pretty cynical about things and was trying to be optimistic. In that case I am hoping that they vigilant and make every effort to remove the racists from the membership.

The same thing happened on the left which is similar to what occurs at the Daily Kos. In the long run the left has "adopted" a strange collection of ideologies that contradict each other when looked at closely.

1079 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:25:54pm

re: #1077 Mirage

what about deviled ham? :)

Trayf in many, many ways.

1080 Soona'  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:26:46pm

re: #1073 victor_yugo

And demon's-food cake.

Damn you. ;)

1081 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:27:35pm

re: #1074 Walter L. Newton

I say poh-tang

And so it starts

1082 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:27:42pm

re: #1080 Soona'

Damn you. ;)

Now, now.

1083 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:27:51pm

re: #1061 avanti

Here, let me bold a different sentence:

"However, as far as veterans are concerned, this is the best budget submitted by a President in the 30-year history of VVA." Rowan cited the proposed $25 billion increase above the baseline over the next five years; the restoration of health-care eligibility for veterans of modest incomes, which the administration predicts will enable half a million eligible veterans to access the VA health care system by 2013; and making highly disabled veterans who are medically retired from service eligible for concurrent receipt of disability benefits from the VA, in addition to the retirement benefits they receive from the Department of Defense.
1084 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:28:12pm
1085 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:28:14pm

re: #1074 Walter L. Newton

I say poh-tang

Its Pootie Tang

1086 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:28:23pm
1087 debutaunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:28:45pm

re: #1023 victor_yugo

1. Turn on any LLL news program.

2. Wait.

An unflattering gallery of Michelle photos?

1088 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:29:37pm

re: #1083 wrenchwench

Hey wrench..bravo for trying. Did avanti ever give his personal view of this budget item?

1089 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:29:57pm

re: #1087 debutaunt

An unflattering gallery of Michelle photos?

Yup.

1090 screaming_eagle  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:30:10pm

re: #1086 taxfreekiller

Of some note:

The Ron Paul kooks were kicked out of the Democrat party for being to logical.

Can't have them showing up Keith Oberman!

1091 Soona'  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:30:19pm

Have to go and pack. Going to Austin in the AM. Be good to each other.

1092 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:30:20pm

re: #1074 Walter L. Newton

I say poh-tang

I knew that was coming, pooner or later.

1093 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:30:29pm

Obama Wants to End the Filibuster-- Including for Legislation
—Ace

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

But of course he does.

1094 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:30:55pm

re: #1060 Killgore Trout

Ouch. Isn't that an Alex Jones site? I thought he hated Michelle Malkin. I guess that isn't enough to get him to pass up an opportunity to ride the Tea Party coat tails.

The paleo-libertarian isolationists, gold standard fetishists, ronulans/paulestinians, racists, neofascists, troofers, and conspiracy theory prison planet wackos are going to try to hitch their anchor to this and make it their own.

Unfortunately all of the above + more reasonable Obama critics and anti-socialists are all superficially on the same "anti the 'current' government" side for the moment. If they/we don't want opposition to Obama and the socialist destruction of America to become a cartoonish farce or a rogues gallery (like what has happened to Euro Anti-Jihad movements) these nutjobs need to be called on their BS publically and weeded out with extreme prejudice post haste.

1095 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:31:10pm

re: #1088 Wishing

Hey wrench..bravo for trying. Did avanti ever give his personal view of this budget item?

The question really is what was in Bush's original Budget?

1096 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:31:21pm

re: #1093 Nevergiveup

Obama Wants to End the Filibuster-- Including for Legislation
—Ace

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

But of course he does.

He could start with himself.

1097 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:31:26pm

re: #1092 Spare O'Lake

I knew that was coming, pooner or later.

Well, coming usually comes next, usually sooner, than later.

1098 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:31:31pm

re: #1088 Wishing

Hey wrench..bravo for trying. Did avanti ever give his personal view of this budget item?

He has said if it really happens, he'll leave LGF. So I think he thinks it's not true. Which I think means he doesn't like it, so he can't believe Obama would do it.

1099 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:32:11pm

re: #1095 Nevergiveup

The question really is what was in Bush's original Budget?

I am still trying to discover if avanti has any personal thoughts or if he just spews party stuff.

1100 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:32:25pm

re: #1097 Walter L. Newton

Well, coming usually comes next, usually sooner, than later.

Depends on your age?

1101 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:32:50pm

re: #1098 wrenchwench

He has said if it really happens, he'll leave LGF. So I think he thinks it's not true. Which I think means he doesn't like it, so he can't believe Obama would do it.

What are his PERSONAL thouhts though? Has he any?

1102 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:32:54pm

OK, here it is. The Prison Planet link on the National Tax Day Tea Party Facebook page.

It's the 5th link down.

1103 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:32:56pm

re: #1100 Nevergiveup

Depends on your age?

I'm 56, and it's later.

1104 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:33:13pm

re: #1099 Wishing

I am still trying to discover if avanti has any personal thoughts or if he just spews party stuff.

no...yes

1105 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:33:27pm
1106 Pietr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:33:51pm

re: #1011 nikis-knight

Sounds like a widespread conspiracy of racists numbering into the ones!

And who is to say that ONE isn't an ACORN plant? When Rathergate blossomed, and I posted my input about the ARMY/AF differences in Documentation-and how the Docs appeared ARMY-Moveon and KOS were trying to counter. I read their CRAP-including the instructions to join non LLL websites as conservatives, and post really outrageous crap-to destroy the credibility of those sites. Why do you think Charles works so hard to keep that kind of crap off here? Moveon took note of that, and cleaned up-KOS is their moonbat encouraging arm-IIRC, both are funded by Soros-Nuff said?

1107 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:33:51pm

re: #1104 albusteve

no...yes

What he said.

1108 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:33:53pm

re: #1103 Walter L. Newton

I'm 56, and it's later.

Well later comes sooner than you think?

1109 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:34:06pm

re: #1104 albusteve

no...yes

"Then how can we tell if she's a witch?"

1110 loppyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:34:10pm

re: #1077 Mirage

what about deviled ham? :)


I used to work in the former Underwood Deviled Ham's headquarters.

1111 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:34:16pm

re: #1105 buzzsawmonkey

Confetti comes out of his mouth?

I mean what HE said!

1112 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:34:29pm

re: #1105 buzzsawmonkey

Confetti comes out of his mouth?

IF ONLY!

1113 debutaunt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:34:41pm

re: #1089 victor_yugo

HA!

1114 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:34:43pm
1115 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:34:59pm

re: #1109 victor_yugo

"Then how can we tell if she's a witch?"

it's the odor

1116 loppyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:35:26pm

re: #1091 Soona'

Have to go and pack. Going to Austin in the AM. Be good to each other.

Safe travels!

1117 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:35:37pm

re: #1083 wrenchwench

Here, let me bold a different sentence:

Yep, but nothing is in that budget about the issue under discussion, nor will there be. We'll know for certain by Thursday, if I'm gone, you'll know you were right all along :)

1118 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:35:52pm

re: #1115 albusteve

it's the odor

Which makes her real name Hazel, I guess.

1119 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:36:12pm

re: #1114 taxfreekiller

That's what I was thinking when I read this.

1120 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:36:30pm

re: #1084 buzzsawmonkey

Or, as the Carpenters might have sung,

"Ham, not for the Jews with us
Trayf in so many ways..."

You got the ham from the leg bone,
And the sirloin from the ass bone,
You get the filet from the middle bone,
Bacon all over!

1121 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:36:30pm

re: #1115 albusteve

it's the odor

I think you're confusing "witch" with "communist hippie scum".

1122 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:36:40pm

re: #1117 avanti

Yep, but nothing is in that budget about the issue under discussion, nor will there be. We'll know for certain by Thursday, if I'm gone, you'll know you were right all along :)

You've read the budget?

1123 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:37:13pm

re: #1117 avanti

Yep, but nothing is in that budget about the issue under discussion, nor will there be. We'll know for certain by Thursday, if I'm gone, you'll know you were right all along :)

avanti..I asked you this morning and got no answer, so I will ask again:
What are your personal thoughts about this budget item possibility?

1124 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:37:34pm

Gets better. There's a link in there for some video titled: FEMA Bio Attack on Atlanta & 15 April 2009 Nation Wide Protest - RED ALERT

Same Tax Day Tea Party site.

1125 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:37:39pm

re: #1121 victor_yugo

I think you're confusing "witch" with "communist hippie scum".

How do you hide money from a hippie?

Put it under the soap!

1126 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:37:47pm

re: #1123 Wishing

avanti..I asked you this morning and got no answer, so I will ask again:
What are your personal thoughts about this budget item possibility?

I think he said he was against it.

1127 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:39:11pm

re: #1117 avanti

Yep, but nothing is in that budget about the issue under discussion, nor will there be. We'll know for certain by Thursday, if I'm gone, you'll know you were right all along :)

I have my fingers crossed...

1128 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:39:17pm

I'm watching Sabathia pitch in a pre season game for the Yankees. He is looking ok, but boy is he a load.

1129 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:39:23pm
1130 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:39:34pm

re: #1126 Nevergiveup

I think he said he was against it.

Are you shilling for him?

1131 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:39:50pm

re: #1124 Gus 802

Prison Planet tends to a source of both extreme amusement and the occasional aneurysm. Avoiding the latter keeps me away.

1132 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:40:42pm

re: #1130 Wishing

Are you shilling for him?

Nope, but that is what I remember.

1133 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:41:02pm

re: #1130 Wishing

Are you shilling for him?

Do shills get paid well by any chance?

1134 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:41:03pm

re: #816 avanti

Write the letters to the CBO, they came up with that idea and a few dozen others last year. There is no need to excuse someone for a act they will not do.

What a shameful response.

Go hide behind the Congressional Budget Office.

Here is a clue for you and all of your fellow ass hats who claim that Obama is restroing the Constitution - the Congressional Budget Office does not make policy.

Got that?

They look at numbers for the Congress. That is all that they do. They do not make policy.

Every budget cycle they are tasked with coming up with various ways to cut spending. They put up options like cutting back on welfare payments, cutting agriculture subsidies and changing veterans benefits.

As you can see from Congressional spending over the last 20 years, these ideas are usually ignored.

Not this time - Obama has, for some reason, picked up on this particular "proposal" and is pushing it around Washington. And now his choreographed minions like your pathetic self are synchronizing the talking point "It is a CBO proposal".

The CBO can't submit a bill to Congress. The CBO can't pass a law. The CBO can't sign a bill into law. The CBO is a group of budget clerks.

In this new era of "Responsibility" it is amazing how you cretins are incapable of even being responsible for the proposals that your side is advancing.

Pathetic. Dishonest. Shameful.

1135 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:41:25pm

re: #1132 Nevergiveup

Nope, but that is what I remember.

I think avanti probably can answer one direct question himself.

1136 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:41:45pm

re: #1129 buzzsawmonkey

Wouldn't the ham headquarters actually be the hindquarters?

you butchered that question...

1137 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:41:54pm

re: #1131 ArchangelMichael

Prison Planet tends to a source of both extreme amusement and the occasional aneurysm. Avoiding the latter keeps me away.

Good policy. That was link at the Facebook page for Nationwide Tax Day... I watched it and it's some crazy guy talking about "coffins being readied by FEMA in preparation for a bio attack on the protestors." When he got to "the chemtrails" I stopped the video.

Looks like they're attracting the usual troofer crazies.

1138 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:41:59pm
1139 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:42:01pm

re: #1130 Wishing

Are you shilling for him?

Shilling is a far thing, methinks.

1140 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:42:49pm

avanti..Can you answer?

1141 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:42:58pm

*drags self in*

9 hours of playing, singing and dancing... all I can take.
Time to settle down with a nice plate of corned beef and cabbage, and the Boondock Saints.

1142 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:43:22pm

re: #1138 buzzsawmonkey

Just a shilling a day, for pounding the message home.

It beats being pence-ive.

1143 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:43:27pm

re: #1141 Irish Rose

*drags self in*

9 hours of playing, singing and dancing... all I can take.
Time to settle down with a nice plate of corned beef and cabbage, and the Boondock Saints.

Sounds like you had a GREAT day!

1144 loppyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:43:39pm

re: #1129 buzzsawmonkey

Wouldn't the ham headquarters actually be the hindquarters?

In my case it was more like hell quarters. Which is apropos given the devil connection and all...

1145 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:43:43pm

re: #1140 Wishing

avanti..Can you answer?

checking with Chris Mathews...it takes a few minutes

1146 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:44:32pm
1147 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:44:52pm

re: #1145 albusteve

checking with Chris Mathews...it takes a few minutes

Bandwidth problems at Media Matters?

//

1148 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:45:00pm

re: #1143 Wishing

Sounds like you had a GREAT day!

That we did :).

1149 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:45:10pm

re: #1098 wrenchwench

He has said if it really happens, he'll leave LGF. So I think he thinks it's not true. Which I think means he doesn't like it, so he can't believe Obama would do it.

If it were a budget item, I'd have left already. Of course I would not like it, it's stupid politically, it saves only 5% of the BHO budget increase, private insurance will not pay for combat injuries anyway and it's not good for the vets. I have no idea why it was even on the list of suggested ideas in it's present form.

1150 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:45:27pm

re: #1136 albusteve

you butchered that question...

I never sausage a thing like that

1151 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:45:45pm

re: #1137 Gus 802

Good policy. That was link at the Facebook page for Nationwide Tax Day... I watched it and it's some crazy guy talking about "coffins being readied by FEMA in preparation for a bio attack on the protestors." When he got to "the chemtrails" I stopped the video.

Looks like they're attracting the usual troofer crazies.

One of my moonbat high school friends spent an entire month using his Facebook status message to tell people to "Google FEMA coffins"

I've decided that, other than the occasional wacko that pops up here on LGF. I'm just not going to bother arguing with some people anymore.

1152 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:45:52pm
1153 loppyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:46:12pm

re: #1146 taxfreekiller

I got too crazy at work to call your favorite senator from MA today. Will do it tomorrow.

1154 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:46:20pm

re: #1149 avanti

If it were a budget item, I'd have left already. Of course I would not like it, it's stupid politically, it saves only 5% of the BHO budget increase, private insurance will not pay for combat injuries anyway and it's not good for the vets. I have no idea why it was even on the list of suggested ideas in it's present form.

Why do you think it is not good for vets?

1155 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:46:23pm

re: #1146 taxfreekiller

Oh, pardon me. Next time I have something to say I'll make sure and check with you first.

1156 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:46:47pm

re: #1149 avanti

If it were a budget item, I'd have left already. Of course I would not like it, it's stupid politically, it saves only 5% of the BHO budget increase, private insurance will not pay for combat injuries anyway and it's not good for the vets. I have no idea why it was even on the list of suggested ideas in it's present form.

so you regret BO and his pompous stance then?...you regret voting for him and making you the fool?...

1157 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:46:59pm

re: #1149 avanti

If it were a budget item, I'd have left already. Of course I would not like it, it's stupid politically, it saves only 5% of the BHO budget increase, private insurance will not pay for combat injuries anyway and it's not good for the vets. I have no idea why it was even on the list of suggested ideas in it's present form.

What form would YOU suggest?

1158 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:47:03pm

re: #1152 buzzsawmonkey

I think the problem here is that people are confusing their CBOs. It's easy to mix up "Congressional Budget Office" and "Communist Barack Obama."

Or Corporate Bail Out.

1159 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:47:25pm

re: #1150 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I never sausage a thing like that

you're such a hot dog!

1160 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:48:30pm

re: #1159 albusteve

you're such a hot dog!

Got a link?

1161 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:49:06pm

re: #1159 albusteve

you're such a hot dog!

I'm just trying to be frank

1162 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:49:09pm

re: #1151 ArchangelMichael

Ah, so the FEMA Coffins conspiracy is portable. In other words they use it for any future event regardless of ideology. Hopeless cases. It's like the people talking about the WTC conspiracies over at Topix for the past 2 years.

1163 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:49:25pm
1164 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:49:29pm

re: #1160 Wishing

Of all the brats I've ever seen, you're the wurst.

1165 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:49:46pm

re: #1161 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm just trying to be frank

I'm sure Frank has some sage advice.

1166 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:49:50pm

re: #1124 Gus 802

Lol! It looks like any protest movement is going to be a nut magnet. Crazies just love to march around the streets with signs.

1167 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:50:16pm

re: #1160 Wishing

Got a link?

why are you grilling me?

1168 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:50:36pm

re: #1165 victor_yugo

I'm sure Frank has some sage advice.

Some of the thyme

1169 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:50:38pm
1170 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:50:52pm

re: #1166 Killgore Trout

Lol! It looks like any protest movement is going to be a nut magnet. Crazies just love to march around the streets with signs.

That's why it's primarily a leftist activity.

1171 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:52:38pm

re: #1164 EmmmieG

Of all the brats I've ever seen, you're the wurst.

he has nice buns tho...

1172 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:52:41pm

C'mon guys, gimmee a break.

You're talking to someone who consumed way too many bangers on a bun today, because it was all the cook could get out of the kitchen.

Any more talk of sausages and I may just have to heave.

1173 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:53:50pm

re: #1170 Lizard by the Bay

It does raise an interesting question: What can be done? Self policing community wouldn't really work. Most normal people aren't going to confront racists or conspiracy nuts. Should Malkin and Reynolds issue a directive to local Tea Party organizers to crack down? If they did issue the order would locals ignore it? Would it be seen as too authoritative for a grass roots movement?

1174 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:54:02pm

re: #1166 Killgore Trout

Lol! It looks like any protest movement is going to be a nut magnet. Crazies just love to march around the streets with signs.

Yeah. Were the conspiracy become a conspiracy! Maybe protests are like people when they become freak magnets.

You'll love this. I was talking with someone the other day about a former co-worker of hers. Well, she said she saw a lot of notes that she had written down and it was all about Obama. One of the notes was about her crazy idea that "Hope and Change" backwards is something to the effect of "I am the Devil." This person even voted for Obama. Pretty strange.

1175 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:54:04pm

Do they pay you to troll here, avanti?

1176 Kragar  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:54:07pm

re: #1172 Irish Rose

C'mon guys, gimmee a break.

You're talking to someone who consumed way too many bangers on a bun today, because it was all the cook could get out of the kitchen.

Any more talk of sausages and I may just have to heave.

So I suppose head cheese puns are right out?

1177 HelloDare  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:54:18pm

Ron Paul's insane cameo in the upcoming .Sacha Baron Cohen movie

Bruno tells Paul to make himself comfortable. Paul sits down on the bed. Bruno turns on some music and starts dancing. Paul is visibly uneasy but doesn't say anything at first. He picks up a newspaper and pretends to read it. "You can tell at each weird gay detail, he [chalks] it up to, This guy is European," says one of the attendees.

Finally, Paul asks what's going on. "Don't worry about it, Dr. Paul," says Bruno, who then unbuckles his belt and drops his pants. At that point, Paul snaps up and storms out of the room.

As Paul is walking away, you can hear him say, several times, something like, "This guy is a queer!" "The word queer comes out of his mouth three or four times," says an attendee.

A spokeswoman for Paul confirmed that the episode took place but declined to provide details. "We don't want it to distract from his message," said press secretary Rachel Mills. "Now is the time when people need to be listening to him on economic issues."

1178 Killian Bundy  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:54:19pm

ACORN to Play Role in 2010 Census

The U.S. Census is supposed to be free of politics, but one group with a history of voter fraud, ACORN, is participating in next year's count, raising concerns about the politicization of the decennial survey.

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now signed on as a national partner with the U.S. Census Bureau in February 2009 to assist with the recruitment of the 1.4 million temporary workers needed to go door-to-door to count every person in the United States -- currently believed to be more than 306 million people.

A U.S. Census "sell sheet," an advertisement used to recruit national partners, says partnerships with groups like ACORN "play an important role in making the 2010 Census successful," including by "help[ing] recruit census workers."

/what could possibly go wrong?

1179 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:54:20pm
1180 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:54:21pm

re: #1154 Wishing

Why do you think it is not good for vets?

Because it makes no sense to shift 500 million to private insurers that don't have to cover it in the first place, then increase the VA budget by 25 billion. It's a absurd concept.

1181 gmsc  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:54:56pm

Question from another board: If a new fast-food restaurant employee (making $7.15/hour), in his first hour of work, makes a mistake that costs the restaurant $8, is it within the restaurant's legal rights to compensate for the error by taking $8 out of the employee's first paycheck?

1182 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:55:00pm

re: #1176 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You're safe with the head cheese.

1183 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:55:32pm

G-d love the Irish!

1184 loppyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:56:07pm

re: #1181 gmsc

Question from another board: If a new fast-food restaurant employee (making $7.15/hour), in his first hour of work, makes a mistake that costs the restaurant $8, is it within the restaurant's legal rights to compensate for the error by taking $8 out of the employee's first paycheck?

While in training? Check the employee manual or handbook. And state law.

1185 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:56:17pm

re: #1173 Killgore Trout

I don't think it's inappropriate for a grassroots organization to tell some folks they aren't welcome. And make sure it's clear that the nuts don't speak for the majority when you have speakers at these events.

The difference between us and them is that when left-wing "zombies" take pictures of nuts at the Tea Parties, the MSM actually will pay attention.

1186 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:56:22pm

Bangers and mash, or corned beef hash?

1187 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:56:28pm
1188 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:56:42pm

Throw us a banger and a beer and we'll do damned near anything.

1189 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:57:05pm

re: #1188 Irish Rose

Green beer for the black Irish?

1190 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:57:13pm

re: #1175 Wishing

Do they pay you to troll here, avanti?

Yea, I get millions. BTW, discussion is not trolling.

1191 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:57:13pm

re: #1185 Lizard by the Bay

Bingo!

1192 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:57:17pm

re: #1178 Killian Bundy

ACORN to Play Role in 2010 Census


/what could possibly go wrong?

If you live in the wrong state, prepare to receive 90% of your former voting power.

1193 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:57:19pm

re: #1173 Killgore Trout

It does raise an interesting question: What can be done? Self policing community wouldn't really work. Most normal people aren't going to confront racists or conspiracy nuts. Should Malkin and Reynolds issue a directive to local Tea Party organizers to crack down? If they did issue the order would locals ignore it? Would it be seen as too authoritative for a grass roots movement?

that does not answer my question from 500 posts ago...how would you preserve the tea party movement?...or would you?

1194 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:57:57pm

Erin go bra! Or as we like to say here in NYC, Erin go braless!

1195 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:58:12pm
1196 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:58:15pm

re: #1040 Killgore Trout

I think the small number of Paulians in the Tea Party could be a bigger problem. Those guys are really zealous and they'll be really hard to get rid of if they get a foothold.

Tell me about it. I spent time I didn't really have this afternoon refuting a couple of my oldest friends who have gone totally Paultard.

As for that idiot who's posting the same photos to various tea party sites, etc., I've hung up my cape for the day. Anyone else who wants to go after them is welcome.

1197 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:58:25pm

re: #1181 gmsc

Question from another board: If a new fast-food restaurant employee (making $7.15/hour), in his first hour of work, makes a mistake that costs the restaurant $8, is it within the restaurant's legal rights to compensate for the error by taking $8 out of the employee's first paycheck?

It was explained to me, fifteen years ago, that by federal law an employer is not allowed to ding an employee's check for mistakes that incur a cost of any kind. Disciplinary action, reduction in hours, firing are allowed, but all hours worked must be compensated no matter what.

1198 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:58:42pm

re: #1180 avanti

Because it makes no sense to shift 500 million to private insurers that don't have to cover it in the first place, then increase the VA budget by 25 billion. It's a absurd concept.

BO is absurd?...he supports this wild idea

1199 Pietr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:58:58pm

re: #1155 Gus 802

Oh, pardon me. Next time I have something to say I'll make sure and check with you first.

TFK did not address this post to you-or anyone but the entire board! Your taking affront, is an obvious EGO thing I won't address-TFK explained how to address a problem and supplied a link. He attacked no one---can you say that?

IMHO,

NO,

You can't...

PIETR

1200 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:59:18pm

re: #1189 quickjustice

Green beer for the black Irish?

Green beer? Hell no! We're traditionalists.

We're combining the old world and the new at our house tonight, with Irish stew and brown bread at one end of the table and corned beef and cabbage at the other end.

1201 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:59:26pm

re: #1180 avanti

Because it makes no sense to shift 500 million to private insurers that don't have to cover it in the first place, then increase the VA budget by 25 billion. It's a absurd concept.

That's an irrelevant argument in my opinion. The nation OWES it to it's Veterans to take care of them. Money is NOT the issue. It's commitment, loyalty, and duty.

1202 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 4:59:40pm

What the difference between a leprechaun and a clanechaun?

1203 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:00:04pm

re: #1202 quickjustice

What the difference between a leprechaun and a clanechaun?

gendre?

1204 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:00:36pm

re: #1202 quickjustice

What the difference between a leprechaun and a clanechaun?

A clanechaun wears white?

Oh, wait, that's a Klanecon.

1205 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:00:59pm

re: #1189 quickjustice

Green beer for the black Irish?

My beer is in a green bottle, but that's as far as I'll go.

1206 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:01:11pm

re: #1201 Nevergiveup

That's an irrelevant argument in my opinion. The nation OWES it to it's Veterans to take care of them. Money is NOT the issue. It's commitment, loyalty, and duty.

avanti is BOs bitch...avanti loves getting hosed by BO

1207 loppyd  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:01:28pm

Old School is on. Love this movie! Will Farrell is about to get the tranquilizer gun in the neck...

1208 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:01:37pm
1209 callahan23  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:02:43pm

Pat Condell has another of his excellent videos out.
It is called: Free speech is sacred

Link

1210 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:02:58pm
1211 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:03:02pm

re: #1199 Pietr

Whatever.

1212 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:03:07pm

re: #1196 doppelganglander

Tell me about it. I spent time I didn't really have this afternoon refuting a couple of my oldest friends who have gone totally Paultard.

I've wasted far too much time on moonbattery. I'm afraid if they aren't shouted down and out, they will multiply but I don't have the energy to get in an argument with 2 out of every 5 people I meet or know already.

Latest wacko hand-wringing I heard from moonbat friends: "The Government/UN/The Man is gonna ban Vitamin C so I'm stocking up!"

This crap was amusing for a couple years... now, not so much.

1213 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:03:08pm

US: North Korea rejects US food aid

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Sure let your people starve but put that missile up?

1214 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:03:37pm

re: #1164 EmmmieG

Of all the brats I've ever seen, you're the wurst.


She walked up to me and asked me what I wanted to eat,
I told her I didn't, but she brought me a double smoked meat,
And a plate of potatoes all fried,
With a cabbage roll on the side,
With a large seltzer to wash it all down,
...and then a kishka.

A kishka like I've never eaten or seen before,
A kishka that I wanted to carry right out the door!

...and then a kishka,
...and then a kishka.

1215 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:04:09pm

re: #1213 Nevergiveup

US: North Korea rejects US food aid

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Sure let your people starve but put that missile up?

Gee, where have I heard that before?

1216 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:04:10pm

re: #1190 avanti

Yea, I get millions. BTW, discussion is not trolling.

Your point?

1217 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:04:25pm

re: #1180 avanti

Because it makes no sense to shift 500 million to private insurers that don't have to cover it in the first place, then increase the VA budget by 25 billion. It's a absurd concept.

Avanti,

Is has the Obama Administration proposing that vets pay for medical expenses privately?

No spin, yes or no.

1218 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:04:30pm

re: #1177 HelloDare

That should be good.

1219 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:04:44pm

re: #1212 ArchangelMichael

Vitamin C? Really? Guns and ammo I understand, but Vitamin C?

Ah, screw it. I'm going to go enjoy my traditional St. Patrick's Day pizza and Heineken.

1220 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:05:05pm

re: #1209 callahan23

Bravo! Thanks for posting that.

1221 victor_yugo  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:05:18pm

Okay, all, maybe back later, maybe not.

Play nice.

1222 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:06:33pm

re: #1210 victor_yugo

I'd upding you, but my dinger's disabled! Does anyone else have this problem?

1223 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:06:34pm
1224 callahan23  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:07:00pm

re: #1220 Killgore Trout

Bravo! Thanks for posting that.

Watched it yet? It's amazing. The his new 'religion' Free Speech. Excellent.

1225 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:07:17pm

re: #1222 quickjustice

I'd upding you, but my dinger's disabled! Does anyone else have this problem?

When I was a youngster but I grew...ah no mine works

1226 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:07:39pm

re: #1219 doppelganglander

...my traditional St. Patrick's Day pizza and Heineken.

Blasphemer!

1227 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:07:49pm

re: #1185 Lizard by the Bay

I don't think it's inappropriate for a grassroots organization to tell some folks they aren't welcome. And make sure it's clear that the nuts don't speak for the majority when you have speakers at these events.

The difference between us and them is that when left-wing "zombies" take pictures of nuts at the Tea Parties, the MSM actually will pay attention.

OK, now I'll get in big trouble by posting this, but...The Obama organizers send out a e-mail with a list of no-no's for the meet and greets and door to door drives and rallys. It even includes a sort of dress code so as to not offend anyone, and controversial signs are not encouraged. It is all just suggestions, but it's worked so far, at least with those on his big ass mailing list. One moon bat was asked not to pass around his petition to go after GW for war crimes for example, and left pissed off.

1228 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:08:31pm

re: #1222 quickjustice

I'd upding you, but my dinger's disabled! Does anyone else have this problem?

1229 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:08:33pm

It is in fact, a "clurichaun". A clurichaun is a drunken leprechaun.

1230 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:08:36pm

re: #1219 doppelganglander

Vitamin C? Really? Guns and ammo I understand, but Vitamin C?

Ah, screw it. I'm going to go enjoy my traditional St. Patrick's Day pizza and Heineken.

I didn't really want to delve too deeply into it but out of curiosity I Googled it and came up with conspiracy theories about the Codex Alimentarius, the WHO, and of course Ron Paul was using this as a reason to oppose CAFTA.

1231 yochanan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:08:58pm

WEARING THE TRADITIONAL ORANGE

one of my grand fathers was from Londonderry.

1232 nyc redneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:09:44pm

re: #1213 Nevergiveup

US: North Korea rejects US food aid

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Sure let your people starve but put that missile up?

he has to keep them weak and starving.
( even if there wasn't a missile). it's easier to control them.
tyrants don't like it when people eat all they want.

1233 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:10:05pm

re: #1231 yochanan

WEARING THE TRADITIONAL ORANGE

one of my grand fathers was from Londonderry.

I'm part Irish. My dad owned 2 liquor stores.
/ actually he did

1234 quickjustice  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:10:05pm

re: #1231 yochanan

Irish haberdashery: A green shirt with an orange tie!

1235 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:10:06pm

re: #1209 callahan23

Bravo Pat Condell!

Thanks Callahan.

1236 Killian Bundy  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:10:30pm

re: #1213 Nevergiveup

US: North Korea rejects US food aid

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Sure let your people starve but put that missile up?

/they have plenty of tree bark to eat

1237 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:11:00pm

re: #1227 avanti

It sounds like the other side is engaging in good common sense (at least as far as maintaining their image is concerned).

1238 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:11:10pm
1239 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:11:22pm

re: #1201 Nevergiveup

That's an irrelevant argument in my opinion. The nation OWES it to it's Veterans to take care of them. Money is NOT the issue. It's commitment, loyalty, and duty.

No shit, thus the extra 25 billion in the budget to take care of them.

1240 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:11:52pm

re: #1224 callahan23

Watching now...

1241 callahan23  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:12:01pm

re: #1235 Gus 802

Bravo Pat Condell!

Thanks Callahan.

Che, welcome.

1242 Pietr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:12:22pm

re: #1211 Gus 802

Whatever.

You DOWNDINGED ME? Good thing I'm Not an egotistical ASS like you, or I'd retaliate-here's another chance to downding. Just remember, what goes around comes around...I don't downding, but friends do...Cheers.

1243 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:12:45pm

re: #1229 quickjustice

It is in fact, a "clurichaun". A clurichaun is a drunken leprechaun.

A clurichaun with a shilelagh [Link: mlski.net...] can be a bad thing.

1244 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:12:51pm

re: #1242 Pietr

Whatever.

1245 Killian Bundy  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:13:14pm

/I wanna know where the gold's at!

1246 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:13:40pm

re: #1236 Killian Bundy

/they have plenty of tree bark to eat

Not anymore...

1247 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:14:23pm
1248 Nevergiveup  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:14:38pm

re: #1246 JCM

Not anymore...

Another Socialistic success story?

1249 callahan23  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:14:46pm

re: #1238 buzzsawmonkey

I'd have to say that Condell's hatred for religion once again harms his effectiveness.

But quite effective from the atheist stand point. IMHO

1250 Cathypop  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:16:28pm

re: #1222 quickjustice

I'd upding you, but my dinger's disabled! Does anyone else have this problem?

My dinger is working and always does work. What is your problem?

1251 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:17:52pm
1252 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:18:21pm

re: #1248 Nevergiveup

Another Socialistic success story?

Which begs the question. Why do so many environmentalists embrace socialism?

1253 Learned Mother of Zion  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:18:24pm

re: #1238 buzzsawmonkey

I'd have to say that Condell's hatred for religion once again harms his effectiveness.

Pat Condell claims he likes Jews better than Christians and Muslims (what he actually means is that he hates them less) but he thinks giving away Jerusalem is a good idea.

1254 nyc redneck  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:18:33pm

re: #1238 buzzsawmonkey

I'd have to say that Condell's hatred for religion once again harms his effectiveness.

i tend to agree. he's a bit too strident.
i'm not comfortable w/ it either. and i'm not much of a believer.

1255 Racer X  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:18:36pm

re: #1222 quickjustice

I'd upding you, but my dinger's disabled! Does anyone else have this problem?

"Don't worry - it happens to everyone".

1256 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:19:23pm

re: #1222 quickjustice

I'd upding you, but my dinger's disabled! Does anyone else have this problem?

Maybe your dinger needs to be sung to.

1257 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:20:19pm

re: #1238 buzzsawmonkey

I'd have to say that Condell's hatred for religion once again harms his effectiveness.

Possibly but he's a far better spokesman for free speech than Somebody like Geert Wilders. Pat's version of free speech includes everybody, including those who disagree with him. He might not like you or your religion but he'll always support your right to voice your opinion. I have no doubt about that.

1258 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:20:58pm

re: #1236 Killian Bundy

/they have plenty of tree bark to eat

I hope that guy gets a fatal disease soon...What he has put those people thru is so horrid: we can't begin to imagine the horrors of day to day life there.

1259 Catttt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:21:10pm

re: #1222 quickjustice

I'd upding you, but my dinger's disabled! Does anyone else have this problem?

Reload the page. Sometimes, you need to reload to have all the bells and whistles enabled.

1260 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:21:50pm

re: #1258 Wishing

I hope that guy gets a fatal disease soon...What he has put those people thru is so horrid: we can't begin to imagine the horrors of day to day life there.

High velocity lead poisoning would be my diagnosis.

1261 Learned Mother of Zion  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:22:32pm

re: #1257 Killgore Trout

Possibly but he's a far better spokesman for free speech than Somebody like Geert Wilders. Pat's version of free speech includes everybody, including those who disagree with him. He might not like you or your religion but he'll always support your right to voice your opinion. I have no doubt about that.

Obnoxious, religion-hating, but he will defend to the death your right to free speech. Is he the incarnation of Voltaire?

BTW I very much doubt that Voltaire would have defended to the death anyone he disagreed with, he was just a pompous blowhard like Condell.

1262 Luigi  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:22:32pm

So now we see the strategy for the billions of dollars for ACORN

Unreal. ACORN Will Participate in Obama Census
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

ACORN, the scandal-plagued organization with close ties to Barack Obama, will be assisting Obama and Democrats with the US census.

1263 Catttt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:22:55pm

It's confimed. My Siamese cat really likes pastrami a lot. The domestic shorthair doesn't recognize pastrami as something edible.

1264 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:24:01pm

re: #1257 Killgore Trout

Possibly but he's a far better spokesman for free speech than Somebody like Geert Wilders. Pat's version of free speech includes everybody, including those who disagree with him. He might not like you or your religion but he'll always support your right to voice your opinion. I have no doubt about that.

I agree, Kilgore. I think he makes some great points. I think he must have been terribly hurt by religion at some point, in some fashion, but his views are his, they don't bother me a bit.

1265 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:24:04pm

The print edition of the Seattle P-I is dead.

They have no clue why...

seattletimes.nwsource.com...] target="_blank">Web-only P-I signs up politicians to write columns

1266 Aviator  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:24:14pm

re: #1222 quickjustice

I'd upding you, but my dinger's disabled! Does anyone else have this problem?

Bob Dole.

1267 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:24:25pm

re: #1265 JCM

The print edition of the Seattle P-I is dead.

They have no clue why...

Web-only P-I signs up politicians to write columns


Prominent Seattle leaders such as Democratic U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott have been signed up to write columns for the Web-only Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

1268 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:25:10pm

re: #1263 Cattt

It's confimed. My Siamese cat really likes pastrami a lot. The domestic shorthair doesn't recognize pastrami as something edible.

A litter tray full of pastrami...:)


I just discovered that Tiger is scared to death of bananas...:)

1269 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:26:02pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

My latest project is going well. However, it's good news to me.

Image: Ladies%20of%20the%20Sea%20037C.jpg

1270 Irish Rose  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:26:29pm

re: #1263 Cattt

It's confimed. My Siamese cat really likes pastrami a lot. The domestic shorthair doesn't recognize pastrami as something edible.

My Jack Russell just ate a big plateful of corned beef, potatoes and carrots. She's laying in the middle of the floor in a state of bliss, looking like a bloated sausage.

1271 callahan23  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:27:12pm

re: #1251 buzzsawmonkey

He could say that he himself does not subscribe to any "formal" religion, go into his "my religion is free speech" discourse, etc., and make the exact same point in almost the same words, without prefacing his speech with his ignorant, embittered spew about religion in general. He would keep his "atheist credentials" and win a lot more agreement.

But he is too angry and twisted inside to do that--which is why even when I agree with him I do not trust him.

I do agree a lot about the bitter screeching part.
Way better of course is the podcasts of 'Shire Network News' less loud, way more irony and sarcasm and still a decidedly British touch.
Yet Condell is often the aggressive verbal dose I need in lieu of speed metal against the jihadis.

1272 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:27:42pm

re: #1269 Sheepdogess

My latest project is going well. However, it's good news to me.

[Link: www.quakertownonline.com...]

Wow. I'm no big quilt fan, but that's spectacular.

1273 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:28:08pm

re: #1269 Sheepdogess

My latest project is going well. However, it's good news to me.

[Link: www.quakertownonline.com...]

Your design? I really love the rose navigation stars on the corners.

1274 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:29:23pm

re: #1272 wrenchwench

Wow. I'm no big quilt fan, but that's spectacular.

Nina Pinta Santa Maria!
What a work of art! Nice job!

1275 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:31:51pm
1276 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:32:28pm

Odd ?


Creationist museum: Darwin got something right
By DYLAN T. LOVAN - Associated Press Writer -

LOUISVILLE, Ky. - A Kentucky museum that rejects evolution is making room for an odd guest: Charles Darwin.
A new exhibit at the Answers in Genesis Creation Museum argues that Darwin's theory of natural selection can coexist with the belief that life began just a few thousand years ago.
That might seem odd to many who have watched the battles between evolution scientists and creationists.

Museum founder Ken Ham says he wants to show that creationists accept natural selection _ but that doesn't mean they accept evolution theory.
Ham says the new exhibit features live blind cave fish and models of birds and bacteria.

Darwin argued that randomly occurring traits can give species a survival advantage, and those traits can be passed on to future generations.Creationist museum: Darwin got something right
By DYLAN T. LOVAN - Associated Press Writer - 3/17/2009 4:35:00 PMBookmark and Share

LOUISVILLE, Ky. - A Kentucky museum that rejects evolution is making room for an odd guest: Charles Darwin.

A new exhibit at the Answers in Genesis Creation Museum argues that Darwin's theory of natural selection can coexist with the belief that life began just a few thousand years ago.

That might seem odd to many who have watched the battles between evolution scientists and creationists.

Museum founder Ken Ham says he wants to show that creationists accept natural selection _ but that doesn't mean they accept evolution theory.

Ham says the new exhibit features live blind cave fish and models of birds and bacteria.

Darwin argued that randomly occurring traits can give species a survival advantage, and those traits can be passed on to future generations.

1277 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:33:44pm

Sheepdogess,
Do you use a machine or do all of that by hand?

1278 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:33:59pm

I have a pregnant cat. We got her as a kitten and she got pregnant during her first heat. (What would PETA say if I did a partial birth abortion on the kittens?/sarc)

The kids are all excited. She is still the small cat I've ever seen with this big bulge in the middle like she swallowed a mellon.

1279 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:35:23pm

re: #1278 DistantThunder

I have a pregnant cat. We got her as a kitten and she got pregnant during her first heat. (What would PETA say if I did a partial birth abortion on the kittens?/sarc)

The kids are all excited. She is still the small cat I've ever seen with this big bulge in the middle like she swallowed a mellon.

It is so fun when your pet has babies! The kids will be awed! (I hope it all goes well and all offspring survive the trauma!)

1280 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:35:23pm

re: #1276 avanti

Museum founder Ken Ham says he wants to show that creationists accept natural selection _ but that doesn't mean they accept evolution theory.

Cognitive dissonance.

1281 Catttt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:36:11pm

This is posted for the print newspaper industry:

1282 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:36:42pm

re: #1276 avanti

You should recognize this avanti! It is called the *end-around*. LOLOL

1283 Rune  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:37:10pm
10-story high sculpture given to the US by the Russian government. Located at the Peninsula at Bayonne Harbor as a memorial to those that died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The large polished titanium teardrop to represent the tears in Moscow shed for the 9/11 victims. A constant flowing of water which causes the sculpture to appear to weep

Tears og Grief

1284 Teacake!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:38:08pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

Leprechaun in the hood

1285 Racer X  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:38:27pm

I know - Glenn Beck can be a drama queen. But this video is a must watch.

Inconvenient Debt - Glenn Beck

1286 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:38:47pm
1287 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:38:49pm

re: #1283 Rune

Tears og Grief

Wow, that is beautiful.

1288 stevieray  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:39:13pm

re: #1252 JCM

Which begs the question. Why do so many environmentalists embrace socialism?

Because both movements are subcategories of a greater movement -- the post-enlightenment.

The post-enlightenment is built around the idea that the foundational idea of the enlightenment -- that man needs no kings, can self-govern, and can self-organize into fair and free societies -- is wrong. They believe man needs kings -- an elite -- to rule them.

The only difference between the pre-enlightenment and the post enlightenment is the label on the rulers: "kings" and "clerics" in the former, "experts" and "professors" in the latter... and, in reality, that's no difference at all.

1289 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:39:26pm

re: #1280 JCM

Cognitive dissonance.

Partly,I think it is the randomness that they object to. I posted an article from the Economist about a new theory that suggests the adaptations are part of a pattern, where certain traits, like the placement of eyes, can end in a similar result from different evolutionary paths. In other words not random - just like chemical reactions are not random but follow certain laws and certain predictable outcomes - they suggest. I'll look for the link.

1290 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:39:50pm

re: #1282 Wishing

You should recognize this avanti! It is called the *end-around*. LOLOL

What next, "Life changed with natural selection, but did not evolve, and it happened in six thousand years"

1291 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:39:56pm

re: #1262 Luigi

So now we see the strategy for the billions of dollars for ACORN

Unreal. ACORN Will Participate in Obama Census
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

Surely this is only a proposal from the CBO and in no way should reflect poorly on his highness President Barack Obama.

(did I get that talking point right Avanti?)

1292 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:40:24pm

re: #1276 avanti

My question still stands.

re: #1217 JCM

Avanti,

Is has the Obama Administration proposing that vets pay for medical expenses privately?

No spin, yes or no.

1293 callahan23  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:40:53pm

re: #1286 buzzsawmonkey

Not bad.

I can see some Islamists wanting to perform FGM on it, though.

ROFLOL, if it weren't so serious. DING

1294 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:41:34pm

re: #1289 DistantThunder

Partly,I think it is the randomness that they object to. I posted an article from the Economist about a new theory that suggests the adaptations are part of a pattern, where certain traits, like the placement of eyes, can end in a similar result from different evolutionary paths. In other words not random - just like chemical reactions are not random but follow certain laws and certain predictable outcomes - they suggest. I'll look for the link.

Did you read Only a Theory? Excellent book and covers this topic.

1295 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:41:52pm

FOR THOSE WHO WERE NOT AROUND this morning or earlier this afternoon:

Click my nic for an update on cookbook funds.
Click my nic if you want to purchase a book ( and you know you do, particularly you NEWBIES).

Click my nic if you want to contribute to Vol 2 now underway.

1296 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:42:20pm

re: #1295 reine.de.tout

FOR THOSE WHO WERE NOT AROUND this morning or earlier this afternoon:

Click my nic for an update on cookbook funds.
Click my nic if you want to purchase a book ( and you know you do, particularly you NEWBIES).

Click my nic if you want to contribute to Vol 2 now underway.

DO WHAT SHE SAYS!

1297 DistantThunder  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:42:29pm

Obama's poll numbers are dropping like a bowling ball.

1298 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:42:43pm

re: #1289 DistantThunder

Partly,I think it is the randomness that they object to. I posted an article from the Economist about a new theory that suggests the adaptations are part of a pattern, where certain traits, like the placement of eyes, can end in a similar result from different evolutionary paths. In other words not random - just like chemical reactions are not random but follow certain laws and certain predictable outcomes - they suggest. I'll look for the link.

Speaking from a scientific sense, even in randomness their is order. Quantum and chaos theory.

Speaking from a scriptural sense, they for the fall, and underestimate the effects of that on all of creation.

1299 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:42:52pm

re: #1296 Sharmuta

DO WHAT SHE SAYS!

NOW!

1300 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:43:12pm

re: #1292 JCM

My question still stands.

re: #1217 JCM

Avanti is looking at is bracelet that has "WWBAD"* on it and deciding what to do.

*What Would Bill Ayers Do

1301 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:43:34pm

re: #1296 Sharmuta

DO WHAT SHE SAYS!

I refuse to be intimidated! :)

1302 LGoPs  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:43:43pm

re: #1252 JCM

Which begs the question. Why do so many environmentalists embrace socialism?

Because socialism is the enemy of man. And it's demonstrated history is that wherever it's tried, there are fewer men.
Ergo, environmentalists think that fewer men is good since men are the enemy of nature.
I'm being sarcastic but as I write I think I may have stumbled onto the truth...

1303 Empire1  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:43:54pm

re: #1269 Sheepdogess

My latest project is going well. However, it's good news to me.

[Link: www.quakertownonline.com...]

What a marvelous quilt! I've done some pretty nice ones, if I say so myself, but nothing anywhere close to that! Mine are for sleeping under -- that one is for hanging in a museum.

1304 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:44:04pm

re: #1301 Bloodnok

I refuse to be intimidated! :)

It really is a great cookbook, too!

1305 Teacake!  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:44:15pm
DistantThunder -

Obama's poll numbers are dropping like a bowling ball.

Guess that must be why he has a need to go on Leno's show, re-hypnotize before the glitter falls out for good.

1306 notutopia  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:44:21pm

re: #1297 DistantThunder

Obama's poll numbers are dropping like a bowling ball.


O bowling...
Image: goes-bowling.jpg

1307 Bloodnok  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:44:56pm

re: #1304 Wishing

It really is a great cookbook, too!

/shh I've got two... Don't tell Sharm. But I do sound tough, don't I?

1308 Wishing  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:45:12pm

re: #1307 Bloodnok

/shh I've got two... Don't tell Sharm. But I do sound tough, don't I?

I was totally skeert!

1309 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:45:45pm
1310 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:46:30pm

re: #1302 LGoPs

Because socialism is the enemy of man. And it's demonstrated history is that wherever it's tried, there are fewer men.
Ergo, environmentalists think that fewer men is good since men are the enemy of nature.
I'm being sarcastic but as I write I think I may have stumbled onto the truth...

Very good point. Enviros see man as the enemy. Socialist see man as a tool to be used. It's not a big jump between the two. If man is the enemy, then man the tool can be easily disposed of for the greater good.

1311 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:48:37pm

re: #1276 avanti

Very interesting. That said, I think that this is only the creationists conceding a point they could not defend. Still, I'll take their concession, but I'll keep pressing for more.

1312 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:48:40pm

re: #1291 karmic_inquisitor

Surely this is only a proposal from the CBO and in no way should reflect poorly on his highness President Barack Obama.

(did I get that talking point right Avanti?)

You pretty much nailed it. Now, if he accepts that lame ass proposal then I have a major issue. I know their job is to submit ideas to save money, but it's the POTUS's job to protect the vets.

1313 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:49:15pm

re: #1227 avanti

OK, now I'll get in big trouble by posting this, but...The Obama organizers send out a e-mail with a list of no-no's for the meet and greets and door to door drives and rallys. It even includes a sort of dress code so as to not offend anyone, and controversial signs are not encouraged. It is all just suggestions, but it's worked so far, at least with those on his big ass mailing list. One moon bat was asked not to pass around his petition to go after GW for war crimes for example, and left pissed off.

you are a drooler...BO is a liar and you are his bitch...pretty simple...

1314 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:49:27pm

re: #1297 DistantThunder

Obama's poll numbers are dropping like a bowling ball. the stock market.

FTFY, unfortunately.

1315 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:50:35pm

re: #1290 avanti

What next, "Life changed with natural selection, but did not evolve, and it happened in six thousand years"

Repost your article on the next thread. Its worth a discussion.

1316 callahan23  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:50:55pm

Bedtime, see you later lizards.

1317 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:52:29pm

re: #1313 albusteve

you are a drooler...BO is a liar and you are his bitch...pretty simple...

That's a little harsh Steve. avanti is not seeing the full meaning of those instructions, but you are being too harsh.

1318 Catttt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:52:48pm

re: #1270 Irish Rose

My Jack Russell just ate a big plateful of corned beef, potatoes and carrots. She's laying in the middle of the floor in a state of bliss, looking like a bloated sausage.

Erin go Bragh!

Lol. My cats think potatoes and carrots are from outer space. I actually once gave them a cat food with peas and carrots in it. They gave me the "what is she up to now" look and ate around them.

1319 Pietr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:53:16pm

re: #1278 DistantThunder

I have a pregnant cat. We got her as a kitten and she got pregnant during her first heat. (What would PETA say if I did a partial birth abortion on the kittens?/sarc)

The kids are all excited. She is still the small cat I've ever seen with this big bulge in the middle like she swallowed a mellon.

Do you know when she was bred? Cats and Dogs have a 9 week birth cycle-and if she is that big, she is getting close, or will spontaneously abort some...just informational, so ya know...Cheers.

1320 albusteve  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:54:16pm

re: #1312 avanti

You pretty much nailed it. Now, if he accepts that lame ass proposal then I have a major issue. I know their job is to submit ideas to save money, but it's the POTUS's job to protect the vets.

BO proposed this to the VFW...it's his proposal...to believe otherwise is some sort of disconnect

1321 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:56:12pm

re: #1306 notutopia

O bowling...
[Link: bartblog.bartcop.com...]

Pick a poll, Gallop just moved him up one in approval, one down one in disapproval for a 2 point bump since the stock market rise.

1322 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:57:21pm
1323 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:57:36pm

re: #1320 albusteve

BO proposed this to the VFW...it's his proposal...to believe otherwise is some sort of disconnect

You don't like to follow links do you ?

1324 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:57:50pm

PIMF- It's ONLY good news to me.
re: #1273 notutopia

Your design? I really love the rose navigation stars on the corners.

It is not my design. I was never a hobby kinda gal until BO got the nomination. I began exhibiting symptoms of ODS. My husband said "It's time for you to get a hobby". It's a very challenging project, but it keeps my fingers and brain sharp and when it's finished I have something wonderful to pass down to my children. The mariners compasses are the easiest (not easy, just easier) part of the project, most of the block can be sewn by machine, the remainder must be sewn by hand. My time is well used to say the least.

1325 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:58:10pm

re: #1321 avanti

Pick a poll, Gallop just moved him up one in approval, one down one in disapproval for a 2 point bump since the stock market rise.

WOW bumped up a whole 1 point! SHAZAM!


/S

1326 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:58:18pm

re: #1272 wrenchwench

Wow. I'm no big quilt fan, but that's spectacular.

I' not either.

1327 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:59:10pm

re: #1322 buzzsawmonkey

It is the current POTUS's job to eat his waffle, in between bouts of destroying market capitalism.

Just so BZM. Keep saying that.

1328 Racer X  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 5:59:47pm

re: #1309 buzzsawmonkey

I think you are correct. However, I am still shocked at the amount of money our government has recently been printing.

1329 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:00:35pm

re: #1323 avanti

You don't like to follow links do you ?

You're one to talk. All the links you've been given, and you still slurp that kool-aid.

1330 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:02:32pm
1331 Catttt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:05:00pm

312 avanti 3/17/09 5:48:40 pm reply quote

re: #1291 karmic_inquisitor

Surely this is only a proposal from the CBO and in no way should reflect poorly on his highness President Barack Obama.

(did I get that talking point right Avanti?)

"You pretty much nailed it. Now, if he accepts that lame ass proposal then I have a major issue. I know their job is to submit ideas to save money, but it's the POTUS's job to protect the vets."
---
Avanti, that is incorrect. The Obama admin made the proposal, and Congress is actually, and logically, not happy with it.
Obama Administration Proposes Third-Party Billing for Combat-Related Injuries


The Obama administration has proposed to bill veterans' private insurance companies for combat-related injuries. But the plan has incited an uproar on Capitol Hill and charges from veterans groups that the plan is unethical and would further burden the war-wounded and their families.

The proposal, which would save the Department of Veterans Affairs $530 million a year, threatens to complicate the new administration's relations with the 25 million Americans who have served in the military.

The plan would authorize the VA to pursue reimbursement of medical costs from private insurers, or so-called third-party billing, for treating injuries and medical conditions sustained in the course of a veteran's military service. The VA already pursues third-party billing for non-service-related conditions.

The Senate and House committees on veterans' affairs explicitly rejected the proposal today when they submitted recommendations on VA budget levels to their respective budget committees.

1332 abolitionist  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:06:02pm

re: #1238 buzzsawmonkey

I'd have to say that Condell's hatred for religion once again harms his effectiveness.

He's embracing free speech as a sacred cause, while simultaneously lambasting and condemning sacred causes in general. That does seem to undermine his argument a little. Other than that, it was a pretty awesome exposition.

1333 Dustyvet  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:06:16pm

re: #1331 Cattt

312 avanti 3/17/09 5:48:40 pm reply quote

Well done Catt...Outstanding...

1334 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:06:47pm

re: #1267 JCM

Prominent Seattle leaders such as Democratic U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott have been signed up to write columns for the Web-only Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

As a congressperson, he has the ability to nominate candidates to the service academies. His nominees have the highest (way high, like OMG high) attrition rates in the state.

1335 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:08:16pm

re: #1325 Dustyvet

WOW bumped up a whole 1 point! SHAZAM!

/S

Just replying to the poll drop post, but you knew that. 538.com predicted it will drop, as most do.
538.com

1336 stevieray  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:09:31pm

re: #1309 buzzsawmonkey

Beck may be right about the amount of money, but he is dead wrong about the gold standard. We went off gold in the early '30s under Roosevelt and went to silver. I believe we went to a floating currency after WWII, but we kept printing silver certificates and using silver money until 1964, under Johnson, when we went off the silver standard for good.

Beck seems to think we were on the gold standard until Nixon--and that's just flat out wrong.

We continued to allow convertibility of paper money to gold at a fixed price until Nixon. Not quite a gold standard, true, but more of a source of monetary stability.

1337 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:11:39pm

re: #1334 Sheepdogess

As a congressperson, he has the ability to nominate candidates to the service academies. His nominees have the highest (way high, like OMG high) attrition rates in the state.

Why does that not surprise me.

Of course given his voter base I'd think his constituents would have a low interest in an Academy.

1338 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:12:00pm
1339 gmsc  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:12:29pm

re: #1281 Cattt

This is posted for the print newspaper industry:


[Video]

So is this (hmmm . . . 60 years after 1941 . . . wouldn't that be 2001?):

1340 avanti  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:14:14pm

re: #1331 Cattt

Once more:

"VVA joins fellow veterans' service organizations in condemning the proposal advanced by the Office of Management and Budget to raise revenue by charging a veteran's private health insurer for services provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs for service-connected health conditions.

1341 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:16:45pm

re: #1277 Wishing
Mostly by hand.

1342 stevieray  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:21:29pm

re: #1338 buzzsawmonkey

How? We had no gold coinage--did not have one since the 1930s.

Silver certificates, which were abolished in 1964, were so called because they were redeemable for silver money--but we abolished that in 1964 too, and went to "clad" or "sandwich" coins.

It was convertible into gold bullion at a rate of $35 per oz. The trouble was, with the high debt/deficit we began running in the late sixties, we began printing more and more money, and the reserves in Ft. Knox would only cover about 20% of all the dollars in circulation.

1343 Catttt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:23:15pm

re: #1335 avanti

Just replying to the poll drop post, but you knew that. 538.com predicted it will drop, as most do.
538.com

I see they used President Bush's non-analagous second-term March 2005 ratings to compare with President O's first-term March ratings. I guess that would be because President Bush's first-term March ratings were higher than O's, and therefore your source draws a conclusion based on hand-picked data. They also choose to say that the source or sources that don't agree with them are probably wrong.

Polling data show that Mr. Obama's approval rating is dropping and is below where George W. Bush was in an analogous period in 2001. Rasmussen Reports data shows that Mr. Obama's net presidential approval rating -- which is calculated by subtracting the number who strongly disapprove from the number who strongly approve -- is just six, his lowest rating to date.

Source: [Link: online.wsj.com...]

1344 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:24:31pm

re: #1337 JCM

Why does that not surprise me.

Of course given his voter base I'd think his constituents would have a low interest in an Academy.

It's bigger than that. It requires a lot of hard work to get in to a service academy. He appoints candidates that are not qualified. Most of his appointees don't make it through "boot camp".

He's a real schmuck.

1345 Catttt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:27:08pm

re: #1340 avanti

Once more:

"VVA joins fellow veterans' service organizations in condemning the proposal advanced by the Office of Management and Budget to raise revenue by charging a veteran's private health insurer for services provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs for service-connected health conditions.

Um, Avanti, hon, the Office of Management and Budget is part of the administration, not part of Congress. The head of it is in the President's Cabinet.

1346 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:30:57pm

re: #1340 avanti

Once more:

"VVA joins fellow veterans' service organizations in condemning the proposal advanced by the Office of Management and Budget to raise revenue by charging a veteran's private health insurer for services provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs for service-connected health conditions.

Here I accused you of being a cretin when it was simpler - you're just stupid.

The Office Of Management and Budget is located in the White House.

Click the link. Go ahead.

Are you now willing to admit that Obama is a cad?

1347 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:31:07pm
1348 JCM  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:33:20pm

re: #1344 Sheepdogess

It's bigger than that. It requires a lot of hard work to get in to a service academy. He appoints candidates that are not qualified. Most of his appointees don't make it through "boot camp".

He's a real schmuck.

In the past he's claimed to be a Vietnam vet, he served in San Diego, Vietnam era as a Physiologist. Big difference between the two.

1349 Catttt  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:38:59pm

For Avanti:

A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again.

~Alexander Pope, from An Essay on Criticism, 1709

1350 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:51:36pm
1351 Pietr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:52:04pm

re: #1244 Gus 802

Whatever.

Good-you took the bait, downdinged me twice-and never REPLIED. "Whatever", must be the current cowardly way out of discussion, tho i wouldn't know. I seldom refuse to engage, but apparently you do when not addressed-and refuse to do so, when addressed. Strange, IMHO...

1352 Gitarzan  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:56:22pm

re: #1346 karmic_inquisitor

Here I accused you of being a cretin when it was simpler - you're just stupid.

The Office Of Management and Budget is located in the White House.

Click the link. Go ahead.

Are you now willing to admit that Obama is a cad?

I don't think Avanti has the guts or the common decency to admit he's wrong on this, because that'd mean that he'd have to take a real hard look at Dear Leader's wrong-headed policies.

1353 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:56:23pm

re: #1351 Pietr

Boy you don't give up do you? What's the point in "engaging" as you say. You've already said what you have to say. I'm not into internet flame wars and apparently you think I'm game. No thanks.

1354 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 6:58:16pm
1355 Pietr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:09:08pm

re: #1353 Gus 802

Boy you don't give up do you? What's the point in "engaging" as you say. You've already said what you have to say. I'm not into internet flame wars and apparently you think I'm game. No thanks.

I just wanted to understand your objection to the TFK post-mine was pretty direct, but you refused to do anything but downding-speaking of which, I suppose I have 3 now, and this will make 4? I am not wanting a flame war either, just objected to your attacking a valid post by TFK-but you choose to ignore and downding mine, so I was curious as to how many 'whatever' replies you've made, in your, what, 45 days more than me as 'registered"...Cheers.

PS-don't know your age or vet status, but TFK and I have service time-and are up there in years-so we sometimes get cranky...

1356 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:11:59pm

re: #1348 JCM

In the past he's claimed to be a Vietnam vet, he served in San Diego, Vietnam era as a Physiologist. Big difference between the two.

He was a actually a psychiatrist, an MD. He served stateside. He's a "dangerous man", so I was told.

1357 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:12:43pm
1358 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:18:05pm
1359 Gus  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:25:37pm

re: #1355 Pietr

I just didn't want to engage after you said I had this ego because of what I said. So I simply down-dinged you. Then you called me an ass so I did it a second time. I too get cranky so it was my way of controlling my temper. All told it was only twice that I down dinged you but a couple of other people up-dinged you.

I just can't see how you consider what I said to TFK was an attack. It was a sarcastic rebuff which should have been inherent in its wording. I was motivated to say it because it was an indirect reference, more or less, to what I was talking about. It wasn't the end of the world for either parties in my opinion. An attack in my opinion would have included a judgement of him and I didn't do that.

Haven't you ever been down dinged before? Within the past week I've down dinged three people (yourself included) and for some strange reason they seem compelled to ask me, "why did you down ding me?" I've been down dinged before and never felt the need to ask.

Look, I'm writing this without any malice. It's difficult to gauge tone in both writing and especially on the internet.

1360 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:38:54pm
1361 Pietr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:50:40pm

re: #1359 Gus 802

Than you for the reply. I've been downdinged b4-I once played "Devils Advocate" as a newbie, so I've even been downdinged by The Big Lizard, Charles. Your initial post on the subject started many comments (Yes, I read that far back before I posted-I know you started the sub thread), and TFK explained how to resolve the Issue, regarding the many posts. You did not post a /(sarc tag), so I considered your post as an attack on TFKs' post-taken as a personal attack on you; Ergo-my ego comments. Does that explain enough...and again, Thank You. Old Farts like me like direct talk-'whatever' might work with todays kids, but it just shows me disrespect-which I expect from the current generation, but still don't tolerate...Heh heh...Cheers,

PIETR.

1362 [deleted]  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 7:58:29pm
1363 Pietr  Tue, Mar 17, 2009 8:24:56pm

re: #1362 taxfreekiller

And even tho my Indian part is 1/8th Cherokee, I still will read, enjoy, and defend your posts, TFK...:>)) You sometimes confuse me (you often confuse everyone), but I wait until I see what you mean with subsequent posts. Kos Kids would have strokes/heart attacks with trying to follow your meaning, or worse, if they understand-LGF has learned to read it...Stay Hard, TFK (I get in gang bangers faces, so I know what you just said-and I was Air Force)...Cheers, Pietr.

1364 slterry40  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 6:01:56am

re: #1 Conservative in Liberal Hands

I'm getting a little annoyed at the US Senate and Us Congress. These unprincipled elected-for-life jerks and chickens haven't read the US Constitution or just don't care.

Can't read.


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