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1 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:05:56pm

Now I'll not avoid jury duty..........
.......too biased?

2 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:06:43pm

As long as they release them from 10,000 feet up.

3 jcm  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:06:55pm
4 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:08:03pm

At least this gives me fodder for argument with the majority of my immediate family that considers Obama to be a "Godsend." Beyond that, I'm appalled. And stunned. And very, very concerned.

5 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:08:07pm

Great idea./
[Link: tammybruce.com...]

6 noshariaincanada  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:08:28pm

nimby

7 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:08:37pm

They are Uighurs from the far western provinces of China. According to "human rights" experts, they will be persecuted if they are sent back to China.

So yeah, let them loose in the U.S. where they can work as enforcers for Chinese gangsters and Tong lords. Jobs that Americans won't do.

8 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:08:41pm
He said the administration was looking at the possibility of putting some of the Guantanamo prisoners on trial in U.S. courts. "My guess is that some of those people would be tried in" the U.S. court system, he said.

Guess?

GUESS?

fucking GUESS?

9 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:08:52pm

I suggest the White House lawn. This is 0bama's baby, let him house them.

10 BakaRanger  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:08:52pm

I sure come of them can get a teaching gig at Columbia University.

11 kansas  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:08:53pm

How much worse can these clowns get? Never mind.............

12 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:10:26pm

And of course, if these Jolly Jihadi Boys decide to get up to the business of hijacking infidel airplanes to ram into infidel buildings full of infidels, they can rest assured that Obama has made certain there will be no armed pilots to stop them.

13 intrrnet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:11:05pm

The Canadian system of government is so different from the US that the personal feelings or beliefs of the minister are of little consequence. It's the Prime Minister and the caucus that make the rules, and in the minority parliament that we have, even that is regulated by the opposition in the House.
Everyone in cabinet is an MP, including the Prime Minister and all are subject to our famed national blood-letting sport, "Question Period" where any and all topics may be attempted.
What he tried to say, as I read it, was that it didn't matter what his personal beliefs are, it's the policy of the government that matters. And he's right.
Besides, our ministers answer to a higher authority already, HRH Queen Elizabeth!

14 MJBrutus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:11:13pm

Perhaps we should all pitch in and see if we can rent them a nice house in Mr. Holder's neighborhood.

15 Happy Fun Ball  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:11:29pm

Well, gee...what's the worst that can happen?

16 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:12:23pm

May I say for the record, please, that Holder is bat-shit insane?

17 Last Mohican  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:12:43pm

re: #4 eclectic infidel

If your family is like my family, they'll welcome the arrival of the poor mistreated Gitmo detainees into America's communities, purchase their bestselling books about their horrible Gitmo experiences, and write to their alma maters suggesting that the detainees be brought on as faculty members. They'll hold bake sales to raise money for the poor detainees' relocation fees, the lawyers among them will volunteer to sue the U.S. government for tens of millions of dollars on their behalf, on a purely pro bono basis.

However, if a former detainee buys a house in their neighborhood, they'll move away immediately.

18 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:13:01pm
19 Joan Not of Arc  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:13:51pm

How confident are the powers that be that those to be released are truly harmless and innocent?

20 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:13:53pm

the whole point of this is ideological and symbolic....there is no rationale behind this release...it is despicable and it will cost BO and his boyz...all this bizzare shit adds up

21 Last Mohican  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:14:02pm

Every single one of these detainees that is to be freed should be housed within a hundred yards of wherever Eric Holder sleeps at night.

22 ceemack  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:14:50pm

We're going to release enemy combatants on U.S. soil?

Because they might be persecuted at home?

Is this an administration, or a really bad joke?

23 Happy Fun Ball  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:15:14pm

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Holder wants to release them here?

I understand Lion Country Safari is nice this time of year. Smear 'em up with A1 Sauce--Lion Formula, and turn 'em loose.

I'd perfer something like the Running Man actually.

24 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:15:32pm

they will be targets...Holder is in fact endangering the lives of these people...talk about convoluted...more BO insanity

25 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:15:38pm

re: #14 MJBrutus

Perhaps we should all pitch in and see if we can rent them a nice house in Mr. Holder's neighborhood.

I thought about that too. but the thing is, these angry men don't want to be housed, they want to get back in & fight for their cause. I predict they will vanish. And the next time we hear about them, some horrendous crime or act of terrorism will have been committed.

26 Happy Fun Ball  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:15:51pm

re: #22 ceemack
Is this an administration, or a really bad joke?

Yes

27 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:16:25pm

Perhaps some of the liberal Hollywood celibutards could put them up in their guest houses. Better yet, make room for them in the White House. They could join the cocktail party conga lines and Michelle could tuck them in every night.

28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:16:31pm

re: #1 IslandLibertarian

Now I'll not avoid jury duty..........
.......too biased?

Dig. The only jury duty I would avoid.

ME! ME! PICK ME!

CAN WE EXECUTE WHILE COURT IS IN SESSION?

PLEASE PICK ME!

29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:17:15pm

re: #1 IslandLibertarian

Really fast, clever first there, Lib.

30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:17:53pm

re: #27 Bobblehead

They could use Bob Dylan's port-o-potty!

31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:18:09pm

four?

32 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:18:19pm

I have an idea: Take them to New York and tell them that, if they can make it off Manhattan Island, they're free.

And be sure to advertise the time and place on NYC TV for three days beforehand.

33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:18:29pm

no way, five.

34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:18:50pm

re: #32 Anthony (Los Angeles)

lovely.

35 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:18:55pm

I suppose we are all cowards for not agreeing with his genius plan.

Terrorists on the loose.
No guns in commercial cockpits.
/genius.

36 Wishing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:19:05pm

Off to work..
Play nice!

37 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:19:31pm

re: #29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really fast, clever first there, Lib.

been waiting to use that for a while now............

38 Last Mohican  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:20:03pm

re: #32 Anthony (Los Angeles)

That was actually my first idea for them: release one per day into a different New York City firehouse. And leave them plenty of time alone with the firemen to discuss their differences.

39 gymmom  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:20:10pm

a map to help relocation process

I understand that the blue areas are full of really bright and compassionate people and wouldn't that be the best place to relax and renew after a rough few years.
// I always try to be helpful.

40 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:20:55pm

Can we at least put them on the no-fly list? Pretty Please?

41 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:21:03pm

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Holder wants to release them here?

I understand Lion Country Safari is nice this time of year. Smear 'em up with A1 Sauce--Lion Formula, and turn 'em loose.

I wonder if lions and tigers like catnip?

/S

42 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:21:27pm

the Navajo and Pueblo nations, and the maternally centric Hispanic culture in NM will not treat Islamists well...they are basically dead meat if they are found out down here...a place traditionally good to get lost at...jus sayin

43 mattm  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:21:30pm

re: #38 Last Mohican

That was actually my first idea for them: release one per day into a different New York City firehouse. And leave them plenty of time alone with the firemen to discuss their differences.

Do you have to be involved with the FDNY to visit them?

44 Last Mohican  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:21:37pm

re: #40 Mich-again

Can we at least put them on the no-fly list? Pretty Please?

Do we even still have that?

45 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:22:46pm

At least they won't want to work in Florida hospice 'cause of the anti religious attitude there:

The Rev. Mirta Signorelli said that Hospice by the Sea in Boca Raton told her and other chaplains on Feb. 23 to "cease and desist from using God in prayers," the Florida Sun-Sentinel reported.

46 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:22:47pm
47 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:22:48pm

re: #22 ceemack

We're going to release enemy combatants on U.S. soil?

Because they might be persecuted at home?

Is this an administration, or a really bad joke?

The Chinese at least are not terrorists or enemy combats. They were supposed to be released a long time ago, and have been living in fairly nice conditions at GITMO trying to find out where to release them. Here's their story.

48 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:23:10pm

do they each get 8 wives and a 500,000 dollar house too ?

49 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:23:40pm

re: #41 Dustyvet

I wonder if lions and tigers like catnip?

/S

Image: funny-pictures-lions-tigers-bears-cats.jpg

50 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:23:41pm

Is Holder going to set the free prisoners up with a job and enroll them in a local flight school?

The inmates are running the asylum.

51 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:23:54pm

re: #38 Last Mohican

That was actually my first idea for them: release one per day into a different New York City firehouse. And leave them plenty of time alone with the firemen to discuss their differences.

I like it!

52 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:24:02pm

How is this going to help Obama?

53 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:24:03pm

re: #48 Adrenalyn

do they each get 8 wives and a 500,000 dollar house too ?

they get stimulus.

54 teleskiguy  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:24:14pm

GIT UR GUNS!

55 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:24:28pm

re: #35 FrogMarch

I suppose we are all cowards for not agreeing with his genius plan.

Terrorists on the loose.
No guns in commercial cockpits.
/genius.

What could go wrong?

Oh well..more red meat, so to speak, for Rush and the rest of our conservative spokesmen to chew on.

56 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:24:33pm

are they going to get job training too ?

I hear there are still a few openings at flight school

57 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:24:46pm

re: #44 Last Mohican

Do we even still have that?

The same people who ran MyBarrackObama.com are now running No-Flylist.com.

58 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:24:53pm

re: #53 FrogMarch

they get stimulus.

Viagra?


?/S

59 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:24:53pm

re: #52 NYCHardhat

How is this going to help Obama?

it won't...he is out of control living dangerously

60 hazzyday  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:24:54pm

Eric Holder is a coward.

61 TypicalWhiteLiberal  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:25:12pm

Let's assume for a second that the Obama administration somehow correctly figures out with 100% accuracy which prisoners are genuine scum and which prisoners were just scapegoats in the wrong place at the wrong time (there were a lot of rumors of 'allied' Afghan soldiers pointing fingers at their local enemies during our invasion after 9/11).

I *still* don't want the scapegoats here! Not because they're "evil terrists" or some other such bull, but simply because:
a) they've been in Gitmo for years and if they were innocent people who didn't hate us before, they sure as hell do now (and if they really were innocent, who could even blame them for hating us after what happened to them?)
b) even if they're genuinely nice people *and* somehow got through Gitmo without forming a deep, abiding hatred for the US - the degree to which they'll be targeted by idiots when they get released all but ensures that they *will* form that hatred. Or get killed.

I understand the compassion that makes people want to give any falsely accused in Gitmo their freedom, but there is no version of their future which ends in the United States and ends happily ever after.

62 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:25:34pm

re: #59 albusteve

it won't...he is out of control living dangerously

Something tells me he has a plan. Am I paranoid?

63 jemima  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:26:42pm

I think it's fine. Let them loose in America. ASAP. Let it happen because 9-11 wasn't enough to make a lasting impression on people. Nothing is going to change while we stay at the stasis we've existed in. So if we're not going to fight them over there, let them fight us over here. If we're lucky Americans will wake up before Iran launches its nuke.

64 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:26:56pm

re: #58 Dustyvet

Viagra?

?/S

not Viagra. it's really just a placebo.

65 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:27:04pm

re: #61 TypicalWhiteLiberal

Let's assume for a second that the Obama administration somehow correctly figures out with 100% accuracy which prisoners are genuine scum and which prisoners were just scapegoats in the wrong place at the wrong time (there were a lot of rumors of 'allied' Afghan soldiers pointing fingers at their local enemies during our invasion after 9/11).

I *still* don't want the scapegoats here! Not because they're "evil terrists" or some other such bull, but simply because:
a) they've been in Gitmo for years and if they were innocent people who didn't hate us before, they sure as hell do now (and if they really were innocent, who could even blame them for hating us after what happened to them?)
b) even if they're genuinely nice people *and* somehow got through Gitmo without forming a deep, abiding hatred for the US - the degree to which they'll be targeted by idiots when they get released all but ensures that they *will* form that hatred. Or get killed.

I understand the compassion that makes people want to give any falsely accused in Gitmo their freedom, but there is no version of their future which ends in the United States and ends happily ever after.

Newsflash....Gitmo was a dream compared to the shitholes they were living in.

66 hedleylamarr  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:27:18pm

Are they going to be issued visas? These are people who are not welcome in their own country. Will they be provided housing? food stamps? health care? Did Holder think before he made this comment. I see a reality show where these guys live in Holder's basement trying to adapt to their new environment and dealing with the ups and downs of being an ex-Gitmo prisoner making a new life for themselves in the U.S.A.

67 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:27:25pm

re: #62 NYCHardhat

Something tells me he has a plan. Am I paranoid?

no...his plan is to erase the concept of a War On Terror...seems pretty obvious and innocent people will die as the result...shit like this is no laughing matter

68 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:27:43pm

Don't release them near my family. I might take measures.

69 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:27:50pm

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Holder wants to release them here?

I understand Lion Country Safari is nice this time of year. Smear 'em up with A1 Sauce--Lion Formula, and turn 'em loose.

Sort of like this...:)


70 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:28:34pm

I'm a "coward".

Damn what a nightmare we are living.

71 Last Mohican  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:28:50pm

re: #47 avanti

The Chinese at least are not terrorists or enemy combats. They were supposed to be released a long time ago, and have been living in fairly nice conditions at GITMO trying to find out where to release them. Here's their story.

Um, okay...

The US government says it cannot return the men to their native China because, as members of the persecuted Uighur ethnic minority, they are likely to face human rights abuses.

So from now on, anyone who is an ethnic minority in his or her country can claim to be persecuted there and therefore be allowed to immigrate to the U.S.?

72 Racer X  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:28:58pm

Experiment in Socialism

An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had never failed a single student before but had, once, failed an entire class. The class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism."

All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A. After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided that since they could not make an A, they studied less. The second Test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F.

The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for anyone else. All failed to their great surprise and the professor told them that socialism would ultimately fail because the harder people try to succeed the greater their reward but when a government takes all the reward away; no one will try or succeed.

73 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:28:59pm

re: #27 Bobblehead

Perhaps some of the liberal Hollywood celibutards could put them up in their guest houses. Better yet, make room for them in the White House. They could join the cocktail party conga lines and Michelle could tuck them in every night.

Brangelina could adopt them!

74 jemima  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:29:09pm

re: #68 Ojoe

Don't release them near my family. I might take measures.

I think that's the point. If enough people are impacted here at home, maybe *that* will be the tipping point.

PS I expect San Francisco/Berkeley to never get it.

75 Code Red 21  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:29:49pm

re: #47 avanti

The Chinese at least are not terrorists or enemy combats. They were supposed to be released a long time ago, and have been living in fairly nice conditions at GITMO trying to find out where to release them. Here's their story.

Why don't they just give them some stimulus money so they can open a Chinese Restaurant, say in Washington, DC in the neighborhood of the White House or perhaps capitol hill.

76 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:30:11pm

re: #9 Sharmuta

I suggest the White House lawn. This is 0bama's baby, let him house them.

Definitely. They could live in the little play fort portion of Sasha and Malia's new jungle gym. If that's too drafty, I'm sure Eric Holder has a nice finished basement/in-law suite they could enjoy.

77 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:30:12pm

It is Holder who should go to Gitmo.

78 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:30:26pm

re: #71 Last Mohican

So from now on, anyone who is an ethnic minority in his or her country can claim to be persecuted there and therefore be allowed to immigrate to the U.S.?

That's what I'm afraid this might be leading to. Not unlike the UK and France were they take every other former or active terrorist nutcase in the world with open arms and then provides them with public assistance.

79 azcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:30:38pm

If they are going to release them into the U.S. they should be released into San Francisco or Berkley. They should also offer adopt a Gitmo unlawful combatant adoption program. Let's see how many takers we get for that. I'm sure that the people in the orange suits in these photos would be the first in line. Berkeley's Marine Corps Recruiting Center Controversy

80 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:30:47pm

Don't release them here you son of a bitch

81 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:31:29pm

re: #61 TypicalWhiteLiberal


I understand the compassion that makes people want to give any falsely accused in Gitmo their freedom, but there is no version of their future which ends in the United States and ends happily ever after.

I agree, and this judge said it the best:

"An undercurrent of petitioners' arguments is that they deserve to be released into this country after all they have endured at hands of the United States," Randolph wrote. "But such sentiments, however high-minded, do not represent a legal basis for upsetting settled law and overriding the prerogatives of the political branches."

He added, "We do not know whether all petitioners or any of them would qualify for entry or admission under the immigration laws. We do know that there is insufficient evidence to classify them as enemy combatants.... But that hardly qualifies petitioners for admission [as legal residents of the US]. Nor does their detention at Guantanamo for many years entitle them to enter the United States."

82 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:32:03pm

I just purchased 500 hollow points. Let them near me....please?

83 kansas  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:32:11pm

Wonder what really damaging thing they have done that this stupid statement is meant to divert us from?

84 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:33:22pm

re: #83 kansas

Wonder what really damaging thing they have done that this stupid statement is meant to divert us from?

Obama is canceling Christmas.

85 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:33:27pm

re: #77 Ojoe

It is Holder who should go to Gitmo.

I would pay money to see video of the guests at Club Gitmo flinging poo at the Attorney General.

86 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:33:47pm

re: #71 Last Mohican

So from now on, anyone who is an ethnic minority in his or her country can claim to be persecuted there and therefore be allowed to immigrate to the U.S.?

Give them a rowboat, a fruitcake and launch them south of Gitmo during the height of hurricane season.

87 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:34:17pm

re: #82 NYCHardhat

That is pretty close to borderline material there.

88 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:34:24pm
The 17 members of the Uighur ethic group have been cleared for release but have nonetheless remained at Guantanamo while the United States tries to find a country willing to take them. The U.S. government has said it cannot return them to China because they would face persecution there.

"We've been trying to come up with places for them," Holder said of the Uighurs. Their lawyers have asked Obama to bring them to the United States.

Well, could Holder at least send their lawyers to China?

89 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:34:25pm

re: #79 azcon

If they are going to release them into the U.S. they should be released into San Francisco or Berkley. They should also offer adopt a Gitmo unlawful combatant adoption program. Let's see how many takers we get for that. I'm sure that the people in the orange suits in these photos would be the first in line. Berkeley's Marine Corps Recruiting Center Controversy

Keep yer ideas to yerself, please. Not all of us are crazed psychos, here.

90 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:34:40pm

re: #66 hedleylamarr

Are they going to be issued visas? These are people who are not welcome in their own country. Will they be provided housing? food stamps? health care? Did Holder think before he made this comment. I see a reality show where these guys live in Holder's basement trying to adapt to their new environment and dealing with the ups and downs of being an ex-Gitmo prisoner making a new life for themselves in the U.S.A.

In the case of the Chinese, they've been offered housing by both Chinese immigrant groups and churches.

" Several groups have volunteered to assist in their resettlement in the US, including the 600-member Uyghur-American Association. Seventeen Uighur-American families living in the Washington, D.C., area have offered to take the former Guantánamo detainees into their own homes to help resettle them.

In addition, a Tallahassee, Fla., faith-based group and Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services in Baltimore have pledged to help resettle the men in the US. "

91 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:35:00pm

re: #86 jorline

Give them a rowboat, a fruitcake and launch them south of Gitmo during the height of hurricane season.

there are no more canes...GW was wrong all along so break out your NorthFace amigo

92 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:35:22pm

re: #87 Mich-again

This thread will be pretty borderline I think. I'm out of here...

93 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:35:26pm

re: #87 Mich-again

That is pretty close to borderline material there.

Close?....The second protects the rest.

94 Banner  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:35:34pm

YES! PLEASE! DO IT!

Then maybe people will realize just exactly what kind of a moron they elected to office! And that we are in fact at war!

To many of our countrymen have turned into complete idiots. This could be the best thing in the world for us, it just might wake up these people like 9/11 didn't, so we can start to protect ourselves before we have something even worse go down.

95 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:36:15pm

Didn't Murtha say he would take then in?

96 Racer X  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:36:27pm

Extreme Sheep LED Art

Sheep pong!

97 kansas  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:37:15pm

re: #87 Mich-again

That is pretty close to borderline material there.

Borderline my ass.

98 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:37:30pm

re: #95 jorline

Didn't Murtha say he would take then in?

Has he got enough room in his basement?

99 Code Red 21  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:37:46pm

re: #94 Banner

YES! PLEASE! DO IT!

Then maybe people will realize just exactly what kind of a moron they elected to office! And that we are in fact at war!

To many of our countrymen have turned into complete idiots. This could be the best thing in the world for us, it just might wake up these people like 9/11 didn't, so we can start to protect ourselves before we have something even worse go down.

If 9/11 didn't wake people up I don't know what else would...besides it would be GW's fault for getting everybody mad at us.

100 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:37:59pm

re: #98 Dustyvet

Has he got enough room in his basement?

Barney Frank would love to have them.....

101 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:38:13pm

re: #94 Banner

This could be the best thing in the world for us, it just might wake up these people like 9/11 didn't,

No. Don't do it. There are innocent live to protect. Children who need parents. People who need their arms and legs. And so forth.

BBL

102 hedleylamarr  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:38:45pm

re: #90 avanti

Are these people crazy? Do they believe they can be rehabilitated. Would they even accept charity from Christian charities? Once they are here how could they ever be tracked?

103 Sheepdogess  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:39:22pm

Oh, the joys of being a cynic, expect nothing, get less and remain serene.

OT- Chis Dodd on Gretta, what a putz.


I

104 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:39:27pm

re: #98 Dustyvet

Has he got enough room in his basement?

Put up tents in Murtha's backyard.

105 Racer X  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:39:40pm

Dear President Obama,

Thank you for helping my neighbors with their mortgage payments. You know the ones down the street who in the good times purchased their house for no money down, refinanced it several times, then bought SUV's, ATV's, RV’s, a pool, a big screen plasma TV, two Wave Runners, a boat, and a Harley.

I was wondering, since I am paying my mortgage and theirs, could you arrange for me to borrow the Harley now and then?

Signed:

"Concerned in USA"

P. S. They also need help with their credit cards, when do you want me to start making those payments?

P. P. S. I almost forgot - they didn't file their income tax return this year. Should I go ahead and file for them or will you be appointing them to cabinet posts?

106 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:39:51pm
107 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:40:00pm

re: #104 jorline

Put up tents in Murtha's backyard.

Great idea...:)

108 azcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:40:18pm

re: #89 rawmuse

It was tongue in cheek, sarcasm ok! Holy crap! Take a chill pill!
Wow I have never been call a crazed psycho if that's what you were doing.
Psycho yes, but not crazed....again sarcasm.
/////////

109 Sheepdogess  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:40:20pm

re: #100 NYCHardhat

Barney Frank would love to have them.....


And they would love to have Sbarney.

110 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:40:23pm

As much as love this country and its generosity, I don't understand reaching out a helping hand to someone who kicked you square in the balls.

111 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:41:32pm

re: #110 NYCHardhat

As much as love this country and its generosity, I don't understand reaching out a helping hand to someone who kicked you square in the balls.

It's the liberal way...


/S

112 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:41:55pm

re: #108 azcon

We already have terrorists here, they just haven't done anything yet.

113 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:42:31pm

Fuck! I miss W.

114 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:42:59pm

re: #86 jorline

Give them a rowboat, a fruitcake and launch them south of Gitmo during the height of hurricane season.

You're thoughtful. I would have just tossed them in the ocean and told them to swim.

115 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:43:06pm

ot--
Dodd, after denying it, now admits he and the administration cooked up the language which afforded AIG some protection ( until the firestorm hit) to grant the bonuses.

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

116 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:43:11pm

this could easily be o's willie horton moment.

117 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:43:11pm

somewhere in this bunch of fundies is a guy who is gonna saw off someones head or devastate a Pizza Hut with a pipe bomb or run around and burn down New Mexico...who is it? and why is it worth it to let him loose?...more sheer insanity

118 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:43:27pm

This is the same stupid motherfucker who calls us cowards and who wants to take away our guns.

119 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:44:20pm

re: #113 NYCHardhat

Fuck! I miss W.

I miss the United States of America.

120 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:44:54pm

re: #118 MandyManners

This is the same stupid motherfucker who calls us cowards and who wants to take away our guns.

I hate the feds...I can't help it

121 kansas  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:45:07pm

re: #113 NYCHardhat

Fuck! I miss W.

Jimmy Carter looked good compared to this bozo.

122 Sheepdogess  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:45:18pm

re: #94 Banner

YES! PLEASE! DO IT!

Then maybe people will realize just exactly what kind of a moron they elected to office! And that we are in fact at war!

To many of our countrymen have turned into complete idiots. This could be the best thing in the world for us, it just might wake up these people like 9/11 didn't, so we can start to protect ourselves before we have something even worse go down.

We are in fact at war. Non violent, but war nonetheless.

123 kansas  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:45:45pm

re: #118 MandyManners

This is the same stupid motherfucker who calls us cowards and who wants to take away our guns.

He doesn't happen to have an affirmative action law degree does he? Just wondering.

124 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:45:47pm

re: #118 MandyManners

This is the same stupid motherfucker who calls us cowards and who wants to take away our guns.

Mandy! - I saw this and thought of you. 20 bucks

125 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:46:09pm

re: #17 Last Mohican

If your family is like my family, they'll welcome the arrival of the poor mistreated Gitmo detainees into America's communities, purchase their bestselling books about their horrible Gitmo experiences, and write to their alma maters suggesting that the detainees be brought on as faculty members. They'll hold bake sales to raise money for the poor detainees' relocation fees, the lawyers among them will volunteer to sue the U.S. government for tens of millions of dollars on their behalf, on a purely pro bono basis.

However, if a former detainee buys a house in their neighborhood, they'll move away immediately.

Given my immediate family's strong dislike of anything Bush or Republical related, I could see them buying the books that details horrific abuses sanctoned by Bushitler&Co. I could see them going to talks held at local community events and then telling me all about it afterwards. They are still 110% convinced that Bushitler stole 2 elections.

But yes, your post is very well taken. My family will superficially support the detainees because they represent the aftermath of W's policies. They won't break bread with them though.

126 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:46:14pm

Pau hana................off to the commute............play nice.............

127 Yankee Division Son  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:46:29pm

I know LGF has a various category / awards for certain post types, like the famous "Flying Pig", but I think this may call for a new category:

I hereby nominate this stupidity for the first "Captain Edward John Smith - Full Speed Ahead" award.

128 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:46:30pm

re: #119 IslandLibertarian

I miss the United States of America.

Sadly.....You are 100% correct.

129 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:46:38pm

re: #106 Ojoe

Coos Bay is looking serene tonight

130 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:47:16pm

Gitmo East

/send them back to where they came from, problem solved

131 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:47:34pm

Congress should hold a raffle. Each Rep and Senator gets an equal chance of getting a detainee. About a one in two chance. Most congressmen have big houses. Plenty of room. Seems fair to me.

132 azcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:47:39pm

re: #112 rawmuse
We already have terrorists here, they just haven't done anything yet.

No Shit. Really?
//////

133 Sheepdogess  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:47:58pm

If we ignore them will they go away?

134 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:48:21pm

re: #129 Killgore Trout

The bay looks pretty shallow. Could Drake have gotten the Golden Hind in there?

135 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:48:43pm

re: #47 avanti

The Chinese at least are not terrorists or enemy combats. They were supposed to be released a long time ago, and have been living in fairly nice conditions at GITMO trying to find out where to release them. Here's their story.

Riiight. Now let's see:

The men have been held at the detention camp for nearly seven years despite an apparent lack of evidence of involvement in terrorism. They were sold to the US military by bounty hunters

How terrible! They were sold to the US military by bounty hunters. Utterly innocent!

Of course, they were located in... um... Afghanistan.

I wonder what they were doing there. Hmm.

136 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:49:00pm

re: #114 Sharmuta

You're thoughtful. I would have just tossed them in the ocean and told them to swim.

I figured the fruitcake would sink the boat, but I like your idea...give them a fruitcake as their life preserver.

/I hate fruitcakes.

137 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:49:02pm

re: #102 hedleylamarr

Are these people crazy? Do they believe they can be rehabilitated. Would they even accept charity from Christian charities? Once they are here how could they ever be tracked?

Even though the Chinese were found to have been wrongly charged and detained I still have a issue. After being locked up by the US for seven years, they might just want to get even if released here. We should be able to twist the arm of a third country to take them, even if it pisses off the Chinese.

138 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:49:06pm

re: #120 albusteve

I hate the feds...I can't help it

Not all are bad but, the tendency of the powerful is to gain more power.

139 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:49:40pm

re: #134 Ojoe

The bay looks pretty shallow. Could Drake have gotten the Golden Hind in there?

if he could find the channel and not run aground I don't see why not

140 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:49:45pm

re: #133 Sheepdogess

If we ignore them will they go away?

Right. They'll blend into the American fabric and might even move to a neighborhood near you.

141 kansas  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:49:46pm

re: #135 Occasional Reader

How terrible! They were sold to the US military by bounty hunters. Utterly innocent!

Of course, they were located in... um... Afghanistan.

I wonder what they were doing there. Hmm.

Delivering Chinese food?

142 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:49:52pm

re: #123 kansas

He doesn't happen to have an affirmative action law degree does he? Just wondering.

I don't care.

143 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:50:20pm

re: #139 albusteve

Cool


BB Tamarra...

144 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:50:24pm

I heard today BO telling his minions (read ACORN) to go out and "knock on doors" to sell his budget to the American people. I thought, I pity the poor fucking doe-eyed dumbass that comes up on my porch. Good Christ, in America the porch is a sacred place and you coming up here to tell my why it's okay to rob me, well...

145 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:51:03pm

re: #124 FrogMarch

Mandy! - I saw this and thought of you. 20 bucks

If only I had the wherewithal....

146 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:51:06pm

Between Vets paying for their own health care, bonuses and bailouts, the Speaker of the House calling criminals who've broken into our country 'Patriots', and terrorists being turned loose in our streets, everyone's in a swell mood.
So this is the weekend they chose to send the Obambots door to door.
This won't end well.

147 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:51:08pm

These pricks will end up driving the yellow cabs.

148 musicmaven  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:51:22pm

My dead cat could make better decisions! Is he crazy!

149 swamprat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:51:26pm

Missed this on "the Daily Kos" for some reason...must be an oversight.

150 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:51:30pm

re: #134 Ojoe

It's actually a pretty deep water port. IIRC the deepest between San Fran and the Puget Sound.

151 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:52:12pm
Some of the Guantanamo Bay prisoners could be released into the United States

Hey, no thanks.

/I already have a terrorist living in my neighborhood

152 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:52:16pm

re: #130 Killian Bundy

Gitmo East

/send them back to where they came from, problem solved

Don't know why that's such a problem. Stop the car, unlock the cuffs, and scram fuckhead.

153 Irenike  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:52:21pm

Same old, same old.

For decades, liberals have been releasing criminals back into society. The liberals who make these decisions never bear the consequences of their decision. Somebody else, some other poor innocent sap, pays the price when the criminal decides to do his monstrous deeds. The liberals sit around and pat themselves on the back, and marvel at how compassionate they are, and how much better they are than the evil conservatives who want to actually make the bad guys pay for their crimes. Again and again, they ignore the results of their actions. They congratulate themselves for their intentions.

154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:52:35pm

re: #90 avanti

Uh...fuck 'em.

No. I am not forgiving.

155 musicmaven  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:54:32pm

re: #151 Killian Bundy

Hey, no thanks.

/I already have a terrorist living in my neighborhood

So do I.....Ted K. and Barney F.

156 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:54:35pm

Chinese terrorists. Taking chop suey to a whole new level!

157 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:54:37pm

re: #149 swamprat

Missed this on "the Daily Kos" for some reason...must be an oversight.

That blog is for the mentally retarded.

158 Sheepdogess  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:54:39pm

re: #125 eclectic infidel

Send them this. [Link: www.theminorityreportblog.com...]

Very scary stuff.

159 astronmr20  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:55:05pm

A 5 year-old could see that this is a terminally bad idea.

Why can this administration not understand that? Seriously? No snarky comment here, I simply don't understand this line of thinking.

160 azcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:55:06pm

re: #112 rawmuse

I usually get this type of reaction when I am having fun posting on Huffington Post, calling out liberal hypocrisy. Actually surprisingly enough I have not been called a crazed psycho even there. And some of those people are as left wing loony as you get.

161 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:56:07pm

re: #159 astronmr20

A 5 year-old could see that this is a terminally bad idea.

Why can this administration not understand that? Seriously? No snarky comment here, I simply don't understand this line of thinking.

BO is a sympathizer..no more to it

162 Sheepdogess  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:56:26pm

re: #118 MandyManners

He's not stupid, but you know that.

163 formercorpsman  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:56:28pm

re: #17 Last Mohican

I can relate. I have an uncle who was in the Marines during the Korean War, rides around with all of his Marine stickers on his truck, etc.

He also has always been the type of person who has been selfish, never saved for his own retirement, filed bankruptcy at least twice, and finds no fault of his own for his short comings.

He voted for Obama, "because he wants whats coming to him" and he knows I ran with 2MarDiv, so the USMC on his truck don't get a pass from me, despite the numerous times he feels the need to remind me of his time in.

I let him know not so long ago, that while I was proud he went and defended another country from the scourge of communism, his dumb ass just voted it in here.

164 Emerald  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:56:51pm

And all across the country, Democrats up for re-election are cowering at the latest "gift" from the Obama administration.

165 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:57:00pm

re: #159 astronmr20

I simply don't understand this line of thinking.

Your first mistake is assuming there is a line of thinking.

166 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:57:03pm

BTW, did anyone else catch Avanti's libel against Lizards today?

I'll admit I have not, but unlike some others, I hope he succeeds in turning the economy. If being happy when the market goes ups, and my IRA goes up is selfish, so be it. I never said word when some on here were almost gleeful when the market tanked allow me to be happy if it goes up. If BHO plan does not work. or can't work, then the market will tank again.

167 Integritymatters  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:57:03pm

Of course the detainees should be released into the US.... right into the White House bedroom next to dear Michele's mother. They should also be able to discuss their preferred dinner menus with the White House chefs, and be personally invited to the Easter Egg Rolling Contest on the White House lawn. Anything less might be considered torture.

168 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:57:06pm

I'll make a prediction, John Lindh, the Marin Taliban, will be released in a year or less.

169 Mirage  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:58:04pm

re: #159 astronmr20

A 5 year-old could see that this is a terminally bad idea.

Why can this administration not understand that? Seriously? No snarky comment here, I simply don't understand this line of thinking.

Because they're not smarter than a 5th grader?

170 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:58:07pm

re: #161 albusteve

BO is a sympathizer..no more to it

Nah, call him what he is...Colaberator!

171 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:58:09pm

re: #168 rawmuse

I'll take that bet.

172 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:58:11pm

re: #159 astronmr20

A 5 year-old could see that this is a terminally bad idea.

Why can this administration not understand that? Seriously? No snarky comment here, I simply don't understand this line of thinking.

ACLU think. If you have a douchebag crazed Islamic immigrant who is holding a big BOMB and saying "I will use this to destroy the USA," the ACLU will adamantly defend him.

173 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:58:34pm

re: #166 MandyManners

BTW, did anyone else catch Avanti's libel against Lizards today?

I'll admit I have not, but unlike some others, I hope he succeeds in turning the economy. If being happy when the market goes ups, and my IRA goes up is selfish, so be it. I never said word when some on here were almost gleeful when the market tanked allow me to be happy if it goes up. If BHO plan does not work. or can't work, then the market will tank again.

yes I did...he is delusional

174 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:58:35pm

re: #135 Occasional Reader

How terrible! They were sold to the US military by bounty hunters. Utterly innocent!

Of course, they were located in... um... Afghanistan.

I wonder what they were doing there. Hmm.

You need to look at a map to get your answer, they are Chinese Muslims, western China borders Afghanistan.

175 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:59:15pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

I'll take that bet.

The reason I make the prediction is that all the local news outlets are running puff pieces on him. Something is afoot.

176 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:59:17pm

Hill panel testimony to accuse ACORN of mob tactics

A lawyer for a whistleblower on the activist group ACORN is prepared to tell a House panel Thursday that the group provided liberal causes with protest-for-hire services and coerced donations from the targets of demonstrations through a mob-style "protection" racket.

ACORN called it the "muscle for the money" program, according to prepared testimony Pittsburgh lawyer Heather Heidelbaugh plans to deliver at a hearing of the House Judiciary subcommittee on the Constitution, civil rights and civil liberties.

A copy of her prepared testimony was obtained by The Washington Times.

The protest shakedowns are among a slew of accusations that Ms. Heidelbaugh intends to make against the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. She also will accuse the nonprofit group of violating tax, campaign-finance and other laws by sharing a list of President Obama's maxed-out campaign donors to solicit more funds for a get-out-the-vote drive.

The accusations, which are based entirely on sworn court testimony...

177 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:59:39pm

re: #167 Integritymatters

Of course the detainees should be released into the US.... right into the White House bedroom next to dear Michele's mother. They should also be able to discuss their preferred dinner menus with the White House chefs, and be personally invited to the Easter Egg Rolling Contest on the White House lawn. Anything less might be considered torture.

And I'm sure they and 0 will have great discussions on how bad the US is.

178 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:59:49pm

re: #168 rawmuse

I'll make a prediction, John Lindh, the Marin Taliban, will be released in a year or less.

I'm expecting Lindh to walk free with a full pardon from Obama in the next 120 days.

179 Emerald  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:59:52pm

re: #9 Sharmuta

I suggest the White House lawn. This is 0bama's baby, let him house them.

I was thinking Turtle Bay or Foggy Bottom, but the White House works as well.

180 formercorpsman  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 7:59:53pm

re: #163 formercorpsman

Tolstoy that was not.

181 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:00:08pm

When the Tollybon finally admit that Comrade bin Laden has been worm meat for years and finally get around to scheduling the official funeral who will Obama send to pay respects. Biden, Hillary, or Jeremiah?

182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:00:09pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

I agree. Sorry Raw, he's a symbol. He's fucked. Rightly so, but, he's fucked.

183 swamprat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:00:11pm

Let them live in luxury apartments in America for two years. Then send them home...

Wonder how long they would last:

Hey! I never said nothin'!
I didn't talk!
They just treated me well because they wanted too!
Really! Don't shoot!
No! Put those stones down.
Shoot! Shoot already!

184 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:00:30pm

I sure wish we had Dick Cheney as POTUS.

185 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:00:35pm

re: #175 rawmuse

How long is his sentence? When's he due to get out?
/I suppose I should have looked that up before I took the bet.

186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:00:39pm

re: #175 rawmuse

Shit.

187 grouchy clam eater  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:00:56pm

Did the administration ever decide what to call them after declaring that they were no longer 'Enemy Combatants'?

Or are they just called petitioners now?

188 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:01:19pm

re: #181 Mich-again

When the Tollybon finally admit that Comrade bin Laden has been worm meat for years and finally get around to scheduling the official funeral who will Obama send to pay respects. Biden, Hillary, or Jeremiah?

He'll go in person, of course. No one else could pay proper respects.

189 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:01:31pm

re: #144 JohnAdams

I heard today BO telling his minions (read ACORN) to go out and "knock on doors" to sell his budget to the American people. I thought, I pity the poor fucking doe-eyed dumbass that comes up on my porch. Good Christ, in America the porch is a sacred place and you coming up here to tell my why it's okay to rob me, well...

Link?

190 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:01:40pm

re: #187 grouchy clam eater

Did the administration ever decide what to call them after declaring that they were no longer 'Enemy Combatants'?

Or are they just called petitioners now?

Future Democratic Voters.

191 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:01:54pm

re: #187 grouchy clam eater

Victims.

192 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:02:13pm

re: #182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Also I think it's important that there are no legal ambiguities with his case. Anything can happen with the Gitmo guys because it's really a sort of legal no man's land.

193 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:02:28pm

re: #156 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Chinese terrorists. Taking chop suey to a whole new level!

Han Chop?

194 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:02:39pm

I got no problem with that.
Split them between Murtha(f***er), Reid, Pelosi, and Bill Ayers' backyards.
I understand there is a vacant house in Bill's 'hood. Would could go wrong?

195 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:02:43pm

re: #90 avanti

In the case of the Chinese, they've been offered housing by both Chinese immigrant groups and churches.

" Several groups have volunteered to assist in their resettlement in the US, including the 600-member Uyghur-American Association. Seventeen Uighur-American families living in the Washington, D.C., area have offered to take the former Guantánamo detainees into their own homes to help resettle them.

In addition, a Tallahassee, Fla., faith-based group and Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services in Baltimore have pledged to help resettle the men in the US. "

Oh, I'm just so touched. Let me get a Kleenex.

Are you fucking batshit insane? The Uighurs are going to disappear into the Asian underworld and become enforcers for the drug-dealing tong gangs. They are not going to become sweet little churchified lambs.

Asshole.

196 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:02:45pm

Angry NH town residents say child killer must go


Angry residents of a small central New Hampshire town are demanding that authorities remove a convicted child killer from their community.

More than 200 residents of Chichester packed a town selectmen's meeting Tuesday, most of them calling for Raymond Guay's removal during about two hours of emotional testimony. Many parents said their children can't sleep and are afraid to play outside.

"I do not feel safe enough to walk to the mailbox, to allow my children to walk to the mailbox," resident Darlene Phelps said.

This is what happens when a child killer is released into society. How do they think people are going to react to the terrorists next door?

197 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:02:49pm

re: #182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I agree. Sorry Raw, he's a symbol. He's fucked. Rightly so, but, he's fucked.

heh...BO is tossing old symbols and replacing them with new ones almost daily....nothing would surprise me

198 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:03:05pm

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199 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:03:06pm

Lead story on the local news, Kathleen Soliah back in St. Paul, media stakeout/swarm.

/oh joy

200 astronmr20  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:03:15pm

re: #166 MandyManners

This avanti person seems to think that this revolves only around his IRA and the market.


The bigger storm is brewing.

Avanti will NOT benefit.

201 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:03:45pm

re: #178 Dustyvet

I'm expecting Lindh to walk free with a full pardon from Obama in the next 120 days.

Oh this is worth a laugh...


[Link: www.freejohnwalker.net...]

202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:03:48pm

Y'all see the story about Bob Dylan's port-o-potty today? Maybe they can live there. Bob already has fancy facilities.

203 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:03:56pm

re: #90 avanti

In the case of the Chinese, they've been offered housing by both Chinese immigrant groups and churches.

" Several groups have volunteered to assist in their resettlement in the US, including the 600-member Uyghur-American Association. Seventeen Uighur-American families living in the Washington, D.C., area have offered to take the former Guantánamo detainees into their own homes to help resettle them.

In addition, a Tallahassee, Fla., faith-based group and Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services in Baltimore have pledged to help resettle the men in the US. "

I wonder how those people will feel when some work accidents occur in their basements.

204 jcbunga  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:03:57pm

I feel like we've had a transporter malfunction and we're trapped in an alternate reality America. The only thing that's missing is the goatee on The One.

205 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:04:36pm

re: #166 MandyManners

BTW, did anyone else catch Avanti's libel against Lizards today?

Here's a good read on why blogs like this need a different opinion to keep you in the loop.

206 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:05:27pm

re: #202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Y'all see the story about Bob Dylan's port-o-potty today? Maybe they can live there. Bob already has fancy facilities.

I wonder if we can purchase Jimmy Bakker's air conditioned dog house?

207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:05:54pm

re: #201 Dustyvet

GAH!

208 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:06:01pm

re: #173 albusteve

yes I did...he is delusional

No, he's not. He knows EXACTLY what he is posting.

209 pat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:06:07pm

The disregard for the health, safety, occupations of ordinary circularizes by this administration is unprecedented. We are in the hands of people that consider us no more than peasants that must perform as they wish or die. It is extraordinary. Obama partys every night, and spits in the face of America every day without consequence.

210 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:06:17pm

re: #205 avanti

Here's a good read on why blogs like this need a different opinion to keep you in the loop.

Crap, here's the

link

211 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:06:22pm

re: #204 jcbunga

I feel like we've had a transporter malfunction and we're trapped in an alternate reality America. The only thing that's missing is the goatee on The One.

I can't agree with that if you're comparing Teh 0ne to the evil Spock.
The evil Spock was smart enough to see that there might be a better way...

212 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:06:30pm

Hanging first, trial later.

213 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:06:46pm

All of the big three local broadcast networks have all run puff bits on JL in the last 24 hours, several times a day.

For starters, the gag order is about to expire, so his story will be picked up by a sympathetic news media. Then, the predictable gooey, Liberal guilt will go in to action. Finally, BHO will say that, as much as he personally hates to do it, he finds it necessary to pardon this unfortunate young man.

214 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:07:15pm

isn't it amazing that o is so cavalier abt. our safety?
a potus who cared abt. american citizens would not be putting terrorists first.
they should not be let loose in our communities.

215 astronmr20  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:07:17pm

I hope they are released into my general area. They'll be taken care of, that's for sure.

When the federal government fails to provide the basic protection of common defense it is designed to do, the citizens are required to use the 2nd amendment in a way to protect their families.

216 azcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:07:29pm

Rawmuse
3/18/09 7:34:25 pm reply quote

re: #79 azcon

Keep yer ideas to yerself, please. Not all of us are crazed psychos, here.
***


Charles,
How can I change from azcon to Crazed Psycho?

///

217 jcbunga  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:07:46pm

re: #211 Van Helsing

I can't agree with that if you're comparing Teh 0ne to the evil Spock.
The evil Spock was smart enough to see that there might be a better way...

You're right. We have the girlie version of Kirk when he was split into male and female.

218 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:08:00pm

re: #212 itellu3times

Hanging first, trial later.

A fast tree and a short horse...!

219 rhythman  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:08:05pm

we are in for some very serious and dangerous times, in this wonderful country. I am amazed, every single day, at the utter absurdity of this "administration". Now this AIG crap, with "senators" running to cover their asses. Oh man, this is just plain ol' BAD. Now this ACOrN sh*t. And we have four more years of this. Four more years.

220 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:08:23pm

re: #205 avanti

Here's a good read on why blogs like this need a different opinion to keep you in the loop.

you rarely speak for yourself...anybody here can cut and paste....you are mighty presumptuous...but provide a decent laugh factor...you are always telling us what someone else says unless you agree then you find a sentence or two of your own...take a chance you sissy

221 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:08:23pm

re: #215 astronmr20

Never go looking for trouble. But be sure that trouble that finds you NEVER finds anyone else.

222 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:08:24pm

re: #166 MandyManners

BTW, did anyone else catch Avanti's libel against Lizards today?

I'll admit I have not, but unlike some others, I hope he succeeds in turning the economy. If being happy when the market goes ups, and my IRA goes up is selfish, so be it. I never said word when some on here were almost gleeful when the market tanked allow me to be happy if it goes up. If BHO plan does not work. or can't work, then the market will tank again.

Read and downdinged. That rant moves avanti into moonbat territory: assigning evil motives to those who disagree with him. And in honor of the strawman he built:

223 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:08:26pm

re: #189 MandyManners

Link?

Here

224 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:09:03pm

Did you all hear about Rush today talking about the 0's teleprompter? Rush's has been saying the 0's teleprompter told him to say.....Today he started calling it TOTUS.

225 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:09:09pm

I have to say that I am a bit surprised that the donks are managing to do every stupid f'ing thing that lizards feared they would do if they got control of the executive and legislative branches.

Hell guys why not try that court packing shit again? Then we can have things screwed up for centuries.

226 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:09:16pm

re: #204 jcbunga

I feel like we've had a transporter malfunction and we're trapped in an alternate reality America. The only thing that's missing is the goatee on The One.

no lie bwana

227 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:09:18pm

re: #205 avanti

I don't see anything controversial in your post there. I have said I hope BHO is a success as President. I don't see any point in rooting for BHO to fail. Thats about the stupidest thing to root for that I can imagine.

228 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:09:27pm

Of course since these poor souls can't get a "fair unbiased" trial, at least outside of San Fransisco or mebbe Columbia University or some similar places etc they'll have to be set free...

Free, free as the wind blows...
/

229 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:09:30pm

re: #214 nyc redneck

I wouldn't worry much if the taxpayers were covering Secret Service protection for me, either.

230 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:09:30pm

re: #205 avanti

Here's a good read on why blogs like this need a different opinion to keep you in the loop.

Don't overestimate your importance here. This blog doesn't "need" any one of us.

231 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:09:37pm

re: #205 avanti

Here's a good read on why blogs like this need a different opinion to keep you in the loop.

Get a hold of yourself! You are piss in the ocean.

232 Lynn B.  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:09:43pm

Fact is, no one else will take them. The Euroweenies talk a great game in the abstract, but even they realize what these ... detainees ... are capable of. Yeah, sure, close Gitmo and release them. In my back yard? Uh, no way.

233 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:09:56pm

re: #217 jcbunga

Heh. Too true.

234 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:10:29pm

re: #224 newsjunkie_ky

Did you all hear about Rush today talking about the 0's teleprompter? Rush's has been saying the 0's teleprompter told him to say.....Today he started calling it TOTUS.

Ahh,teleprompter-in Chief.

235 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:10:39pm

Man, this is like Christmas!

I want them in TEXAS!

Please! Please! Please!

/cuz huntin' season is like next October

236 Racer X  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:10:47pm

TelObama?

237 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:10:56pm

re: #200 astronmr20

This avanti person seems to think that this revolves only around his IRA and the market.


The bigger storm is brewing.

Avanti will NOT benefit.

I have no problem with looking out for your own intrerests but, he is a really fucking odious prick.

238 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:10:56pm

Goddamn idiots, morons, nutbars and psychopaths are in the gov't. I hope to hell some released terrorist runs amok and deleted deleted deleted on some of these liberal asshats.

239 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:10:58pm

re: #230 Bloodnok

Don't overestimate your importance here. This blog doesn't "need" any one of us.

Hear Hear!

240 astronmr20  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:11:01pm

re: #227 Mich-again

I don't see anything controversial in your post there. I have said I hope BHO is a success as President. I don't see any point in rooting for BHO to fail. Thats about the stupidest thing to root for that I can imagine.

You want his policies to succeed?

241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:11:09pm

I'm going to bed guys. I know it's not all about me, but Liam Neeson is one of my favorite actors, kind of bummed for him; finishing my last couple smokes in the morning (just not going to pay all the tax); some friends of mine were fighting a few flights down from here; and this...

Just kind of bummed.

The sun'll come out, tomorrow;
Betcher bottom dollar that tomorrow;
Their'll be sun....

242 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:11:13pm

Was skimming through some background on this. These detainees got the best lawyers money can buy which leads me to wonder who was paying for their defense. Many of them acquired AK-47 training. Some are seeking 30,000 dollars in addition to asylum in the USA. Other countries they can go is Canada or Germany.

Susan Baker Manning of the mega legal firm Bingham McCutchen LLP represents 6 of the applicants. It's probably a pro-bono case.

I doubt we mere mortals would ever get this kind of legal representation -- especially on a pro-bono basis.

243 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:11:38pm

re: #205 avanti

Here's a good read on why blogs like this need a different opinion to keep you in the loop.

Don't need brainless opinions pro or con.

244 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:11:54pm

re: #230 Bloodnok

Don't overestimate your importance here. This blog doesn't "need" any one of us.

The graveyards are full of indispensable men.

245 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:12:20pm

re: #205 avanti

Here's a good read on why blogs like this need a different opinion to keep you in the loop.

Fruit Loop?

246 Gretchen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:12:30pm

And under the new stimulus plan they'll be eligible for a $2500 tax credit toward flight school.

247 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:12:34pm

re: #224 newsjunkie_ky

Did you all hear about Rush today talking about the 0's teleprompter? Rush's has been saying the 0's teleprompter told him to say.....Today he started calling it TOTUS.

i heard it driving in today. i almost drove off the road laughing.
o must just be livid w/ rush. the ridicule was supremely entertaining.
rush challenged the 'promptor' to a debate.

248 jim in virginia  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:12:37pm

re: #219 rhythman

And we have four more years of this. Four more years.


Three years and ten months.
See how fast time flies when you're having fun?

249 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:12:46pm

re: #7 Alouette

They are Uighurs from the far western provinces of China. According to "human rights" experts, they will be persecuted if they are sent back to China.

So yeah, let them loose in the U.S. where they can work as enforcers for Chinese gangsters and Tong lords. Jobs that Americans won't do.

Will Han gangsters hire Uighurs?

/do I care? Just a thought.

250 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:12:49pm

re: #166 MandyManners

BTW, did anyone else catch Avanti's libel against Lizards today?

I'll admit I have not, but unlike some others, I hope he succeeds in turning the economy. If being happy when the market goes ups, and my IRA goes up is selfish, so be it. I never said word when some on here were almost gleeful when the market tanked allow me to be happy if it goes up. If BHO plan does not work. or can't work, then the market will tank again.

Time to take up the welcome mat. At least Nodrog introduced a certain level of amusement. This one not so much. Avanti's passive aggressive stoogism is just plain boring.

251 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:12:51pm

re: #205 avanti

Here's a good read on why blogs like this need a different opinion to keep you in the loop.

Nodrog thought he was essential. He was wrong.

252 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:12:53pm

re: #223 Killer Tomato

Here

GET A FUCKING SHAVE, MITCH.

253 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:13:28pm

re: #227 Mich-again

I don't see anything controversial in your post there. I have said I hope BHO is a success as President. I don't see any point in rooting for BHO to fail. Thats about the stupidest thing to root for that I can imagine.

0bama seems hellbent - along with his cronies - on bringing this country to its knees and you think rooting for this to fail is a stupid thing?

Rooting for him to succeed is the stupid thing.

254 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:13:31pm

re: #245 jorline

Fruit Loop?

If you follow his nose, you'll end up in Obama's ass.

255 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:13:38pm

re: #223 Killer Tomato

Here

You analy-retentive, nasal-voiced bastard.

256 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:13:43pm

re: #249 SanFranciscoZionist

Will Han gangsters hire Uighurs?

/do I care? Just a thought.

They will hire anyone who gets the job done. No affirmative action, just merit.

257 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:14:02pm

re: #235 OldLineTexan

Man, this is like Christmas!

I want them in TEXAS!

Please! Please! Please!

/cuz huntin' season is like next October

Nah, to British!

Image: orange%20va%20foxhunting.jpg

258 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:14:32pm

re: #174 avanti

You need to look at a map to get your answer, they are Chinese Muslims, western China borders Afghanistan.

Kidnapped they were!

259 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:15:02pm

re: #244 OldLineTexan

The graveyards are full of indispensable men.

I believe Charles de Gaulle was the originator of that saying.

260 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:15:12pm

Sometime when you're feeling important;
Sometime when your ego's in bloom
Sometime when you take it for granted
You're the best qualified in the room,

Sometime when you feel that your going
Would leave an unfillable hole,
Just follow these simple instructions
And see how they humble your soul;

Take a bucket and fill it with water,
Put your hand in it up to the wrist,
Pull it out and the hole that's remaining
Is a measure of how you will be missed.

You can splash all you wish when you enter,
You may stir up the water galore,
But stop and you'll find that in no time
It looks quite the same as before.

The moral of this quaint example
Is do just the best that you can,
Be proud of yourself but remember,
There's no indispensable man.

- Saxon N. White Kessinger

261 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:15:39pm

re: #235 OldLineTexan

Man, this is like Christmas!

I want them in TEXAS!

Please! Please! Please!

/cuz huntin' season is like next October

Any limits?

262 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:15:53pm

re: #189 MandyManners

Link?

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

263 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:16:13pm

re: #241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You have my best wishes for complete success with the stop-smoking plan, FBV. Liam Neeson is one of my favorites too and I grieve for his loss. So senseless and tragic.

Have a good sleep. :-)

264 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:16:18pm

re: #255 MandyManners

I am not!
/

265 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:16:19pm

re: #257 Dustyvet

Nah, to British!

[Link: www.orangevahomes.org...]

I won't let my rat terrier hunt terrorists, because then I would have to get his stomach pumped and his teeth cleaned.

266 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:16:59pm

re: #230 Bloodnok

Don't overestimate your importance here. This blog doesn't "need" any one of us.

I said it needs a difference of opinion, I am certainly not the only one that has one. Without a difference of opinion, any blog, right or left will just be isolated from reality as pointed out in my link from Hot Air.

267 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:17:01pm

re: #238 pingjockey

Goddamn idiots, morons, nutbars and psychopaths are in the gov't. I hope to hell some released terrorist runs amok and deleted deleted deleted on some of these liberal asshats.

What's the difference between a mugger and a congresscritter?
The Secret Service doesn't visit you if you ********** a mugger.

268 pat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:17:10pm

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

Too bad it took him so long.

269 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:17:14pm

re: #223 Killer Tomato

What the fuck is that horseshit? I want all socialist/commie policies to fail. I don't give a good goddamn who puts them forward.

270 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:17:16pm

From: The Teleprompter
To: Barack Obama
Subject: My Resignation letter
Dear Mr. President I must respectful resign my position as the brains of this outfit.
I can't take the pressure anymore...
I know stuff Barry..
I need a private jet, 2 million in unmarked bills and safe passage to Paris..
Don't mess with me Barry...
Sincerely
The Teleprompter

271 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:17:20pm

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

I believe Charles de Gaulle was the originator of that saying.

CORRECT!

272 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:17:43pm

re: #68 Ojoe

Don't release them near my family. I might take measures.

Can anyone think these guys will possibly be safe? Are we putting them all in witness protection or what? They're gonna get their asses killed. Maybe if we send their asses home, they'll also get killed, but I'm not sure I want their asses to get killed in Ohio.

273 The False God  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:17:52pm

re: #45 IslandLibertarian

The Rev. Mirta Signorelli said that Hospice by the Sea in Boca Raton told her and other chaplains on Feb. 23 to "cease and desist from using God in prayers," the Florida Sun-Sentinel reported.

How is it even possible to be a chaplain if you don't invoke God's, or any god's, name?

274 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:17:57pm

re: #253 pink freud

0bama seems hellbent - along with his cronies - on bringing this country to its knees and you think rooting for this to fail is a stupid thing?

That was a perfect example of a Strawman argument. Ha.

275 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:18:01pm

re: #261 jorline

Any limits?

You and me is gonna need a bigger truck!

276 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:18:14pm

re: #247 nyc redneck

i heard it driving in today. i almost drove off the road laughing.
o must just be livid w/ rush. the ridicule was supremely entertaining.
rush challenged the 'promptor' to a debate.


LOL, the 0 just keeps giving Rush so much material. The barney fwank stuff is hilarious as well.
People who don't listen to him should start now. He is the only sane voice out there.

277 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:18:35pm

re: #250 The Shadow Do

Time to take up the welcome mat. At least Nodrog introduced a certain level of amusement. This one not so much. Avanti's passive aggressive stoogism is just plain boring.

What he posted was NOT passive-aggressive. He flat-out LIED about Lizards. He lied. He lied. He lied.

278 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:18:43pm

re: #71 Last Mohican

So from now on, anyone who is an ethnic minority in his or her country can claim to be persecuted there and therefore be allowed to immigrate to the U.S.?

In all fairness, this is China we're talking about here.

279 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:18:47pm

re: #267 Van Helsing

True dat!

280 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:18:56pm

re: #260 Killer Tomato

Brilliant!

281 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:19:07pm

re: #275 OldLineTexan

You and me is gonna need a bigger truck!

I know of somebody who can field dress a moose...:) wink;)

282 Racer X  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:19:23pm

Change™ can be bad.

A different opinion can be also be a stupid one.

I'm just sayin'

283 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:19:29pm

Mich-Again wishes BO success....some crazy shit right there...must be some dispute over definitions and whatever

284 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:19:43pm

re: #269 pingjockey

She asked for a link about the door to door visits we can all look forward to.
I provided it.

285 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:19:49pm

re: #223 Killer Tomato

Thank you for reminding me that I need to get a couple of bags of manure.

286 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:19:52pm

re: #274 Mich-again

That was a perfect example of a Strawman argument. Ha.

No, it isn't a strawman argument:

Cloward-Piven

287 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:19:57pm

re: #73 Sharmuta

Brangelina could adopt them!

I doubt that any of them are as cute as her existing family, and they may refuse to wear the little rock-band t-shirts.

288 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:20:21pm

re: #274 Mich-again

That was a perfect example of a Strawman argument. Ha.

In what way?

289 albusteve  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:20:28pm

re: #266 avanti

I said it needs a difference of opinion, I am certainly not the only one that has one. Without a difference of opinion, any blog, right or left will just be isolated from reality as pointed out in my link from Hot Air.

so you are on a mission?.....hahahaha!

290 psyop  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:20:40pm

Well, if they want to release them....

I still have a bunch of really neat weapons. I have the training and ability to use them effectively and efficiently. I am not afraid to risk my life for my fellow citizens. I almost never leave my home without the ability to destroy evil from a distance.

I will defend my family and this country to my last breath.

291 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:21:04pm

re: #284 Killer Tomato

Aha! I heard that on the news today. Some asshat shows up at my door, they will get a very rude welcome!

292 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:21:11pm

re: #263 pink freud

You have my best wishes for complete success with the stop-smoking plan, FBV. Liam Neeson is one of my favorites too and I grieve for his loss. So senseless and tragic.

Have a good sleep. :-)

i love liam neeson. what a tragedy . and two little children left behind w/him.
really sad.
he recently had a movie out.
"taken"
i think it grossed 95 million dollars.
life is precious.

293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:21:22pm

Their'll be sun?

Really?...

G'night.

There'll be sun...
Just thinkin' about tomorrow
Clears away the cobwebs and the sorrow
Til there's none...
When I'm stuck with a day, that's gray

Hey! Who are you! Don't unplug my computer! My batter

294 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:21:36pm

re: #281 Dustyvet

I know of somebody who can field dress a moose...:) wink;)

I swear it was "undress" according to some important gubmint doofus.

295 jim in virginia  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:21:45pm

Gah. Business travel is so glamorous. I spent three hours at Dulles today waiting on a flight. The first flight was delayed an hour; we boarded and the pilot announced we had a nail in the tire, thirty minutes later they figured out they had no spare tires so they pulled us off the plane. I made it to Atlanta, three hours late, and had a wonderful dinner on my boss' s expense account. Then I see the Free John Lindh website.
Gah. It's bedtime.

You can't jump a jet plane, like you can a freight train.....

296 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:21:50pm

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

No, it isn't a strawman argument:

Cloward-Piven

Don't forget Obama was at Columbia at the same time as those two, and won't release his Columbia transcript.

297 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:22:09pm

re: #275 OldLineTexan

You and me is gonna need a bigger truck!

lol...I would respond with something hunting related and you would understand, but it would get deleted.

298 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:22:13pm

re: #79 azcon

If they are going to release them into the U.S. they should be released into San Francisco or Berkley. They should also offer adopt a Gitmo unlawful combatant adoption program. Let's see how many takers we get for that. I'm sure that the people in the orange suits in these photos would be the first in line. Berkeley's Marine Corps Recruiting Center Controversy

Code Pink sold that cottage they had on Solano. So that won't work. Luckily. The neighbors have suffered enough.

299 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:22:34pm

re: #296 JCM

Don't forget Obama was at Columbia at the same time as those two, and won't release his Columbia transcript.

I haven't forgotten.

300 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:22:43pm

re: #266 avanti

I said it needs a difference of opinion, I am certainly not the only one that has one. Without a difference of opinion, any blog, right or left will just be isolated from reality as pointed out in my link from Hot Air.

I'm sure Charles would be appreciative of your lack of confidence in his abilities to maintain a reality-based blog in the absence of differing opinions.

You also don't seem to think much of us either. Your comment implies that we would be irrational without these dissenting voices guiding us to the light. I think better of Lizards than that.

301 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:23:24pm

re: #290 psyop

Well, if they want to release them....

I still have a bunch of really neat weapons. I have the training and ability to use them effectively and efficiently. I am not afraid to risk my life for my fellow citizens. I almost never leave my home without the ability to destroy evil from a distance.

I will defend my family and this country to my last breath.

I got a .45 and a shovel.

302 budvarakbar  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:23:28pm

Re #144

They will be canvasing to ascertain which houses are with them and which houses are against them -- mark my words - the nature of your response will be recorded -- you are on your own -

303 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:23:32pm

re: #295 jim in virginia

Gah. Business travel is so glamorous. I spent three hours at Dulles today waiting on a flight. The first flight was delayed an hour; we boarded and the pilot announced we had a nail in the tire, thirty minutes later they figured out they had no spare tires so they pulled us off the plane. I made it to Atlanta, three hours late, and had a wonderful dinner on my boss' s expense account. Then I see the Free John Lindh website.
Gah. It's bedtime.

You can't jump a jet plane, like you can a freight train.....

Think about the maybe couple of thousand the bean counter saved by not stocking spare tires. And how much the airline lost.

304 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:23:41pm

re: #296 JCM

Don't forget Obama was at Columbia at the same time as those two, and won't release his Columbia transcript.

At this point it might be fair to say we don't even need to see those transcripts. Obama's actions and administration such represented by Holder and others makes things pretty clear were Obama is coming from.

305 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:23:51pm

re: #275 OldLineTexan

You and me is gonna need a bigger truck!

I think a good hunting season should give all sportsmen a chance. Early season bow hunt followed by black powder - and then get out the big guns!

306 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:23:51pm
re: #223 Killer Tomato

What the fuck is that horseshit? I want all socialist/commie policies to fail. I don't give a good goddamn who puts them forward.


My take on the whole 'I want him to fail' thing is pretty simple.
I don't believe, and history tends to back me up here, that his proposed policies will do nothing but damage to the USA now and well into the future.

I want him to fail to get these changes enacted because they Are Not Going To Be Good For The Country!

307 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:24:08pm

re: #276 newsjunkie_ky

LOL, the 0 just keeps giving Rush so much material. The barney fwank stuff is hilarious as well.
People who don't listen to him should start now. He is the only sane voice out there.

LOL, i always feel better when i hear rush.
hey, he doesn't call him barney frank anymore.
he calls him "barney's frank"

hahahahaha

308 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:24:34pm

re: #291 pingjockey

Aha! I heard that on the news today. Some asshat shows up at my door, they will get a very rude welcome!

Unfortunately, I'll be away all day Saturday, but I'm leaving the unicorn on the front porch. They can talk to her.
(really - I have a 3 foot tall stuffed pink unicorn)

309 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:25:55pm

re: #277 MandyManners

What he posted was NOT passive-aggressive. He flat-out LIED about Lizards. He lied. He lied. He lied.

Yes he did. Fuck 'em. I want this cat gone. I'm sure we'll find a better class of commie soon.

310 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:26:03pm

re: #305 The Shadow Do

I think a good hunting season should give all sportsmen a chance. Early season bow hunt followed by black powder - and then get out the big guns!

Oh Man Ted Nugent would have a friggin field day during bowhunting season.

There might not be any left.

311 Joo-LiZ  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:26:33pm

OT - From DEBKA, I'm not sure what to make of it, but frightening if true:

Saudis create anti-Israel Palestinian "militia" in Gaza to combat Hamas
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
March 18, 2009, 9:25 AM (GMT+02:00)

New pro-Saudi terror militia in South Lebanon
DEBKAfile's military sources disclose that Saudi intelligence services are deep in recruitment for a new radical Islamist terrorist militia in the southern Gaza Strip towns of Deir al Balakh, Khan Younes and Rafah, with Egyptian blessing. More than 1,000 Palestinians have joined up in two weeks, poached from the extreme Hamas fringes and the Salafi sects.
Recruiters promise greater militancy against Israel than Hamas and Jihad Islami combined.
The new Gaza group is intended to complement the pro-Saudi organization established in southern Lebanon in January, part of a new Riyadh project to establish a chain of Islamist, Taliban-style fighting cadres under Saudi control for combating the pro-Iranian and al Qaeda terrorist organizations strung across the Middle East.
The Saudis are pumping into southern Gaza weapons, cash and dozens of military instructors for a strong infrastructure. This flow could not have taken place through Egyptian territory without Cairo's knowledge and approval.
DEBKAfile's Middle East sources disclose the hand behind this grand design is the Saudi intelligence chief Prince Muqrin Abdul Aziz. He has used Hamas leaders' absence and their preoccupation in Cairo with prisoner swap negotiations with Israel and Palestinian unity talks to lay the groundwork for the pro-Saudi Palestinian terror group in the Gaza Strip.
The organization up and running in S. Lebanon, dubbed the Arab Islamic Resistance Organization, soon challenged pro-Iranian Hizballah's domination of South Lebanon by becoming the first non-Hizballah element ever to stage a comprehensive "war game" close to the Israeli border without Iran's proxy interfering.
Exercises included chemical warfare drill, a sign that the Saudis are preparing to arm their new terrorist network with sophisticated means of war.

312 azcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:26:36pm

re: #298 SanFranciscoZionist

I know, I don't want them released at all, and if they were to be released, not in the US. But if they have to be released in the US where do they go? NIMBY right?

313 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:26:53pm

re: #178 Dustyvet

I'm expecting Lindh to walk free with a full pardon from Obama in the next 120 days.

I'll say no on that. Check back July 15?

314 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:27:25pm

re: #310 unclassifiable

Oh Man Ted Nugent would have a friggin field day during bowhunting season.

There might not be any left.

OK, we'll start out with bare hands only.

Then teaspoons.

I think we'll have to send out for more.

Chuck Norris has to wait three days before he can start.

315 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:27:26pm

re: #304 Gus 802

At this point it might be fair to say we don't even need to see those transcripts. Obama's actions and administration such represented by Holder and others makes things pretty clear were Obama is coming from.

The more I read the more it all ties together.

Obama / Alinsky / Cloward Pivens / ACORN / Liberation Theology.

316 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:27:40pm

re: #307 nyc redneck

LOL, i always feel better when i hear rush.
hey, he doesn't call him barney frank anymore.
he calls him "barney's frank"

hahahahaha

LOL!

Rush is highly energized these days and it's a pleasure to listen to him.

Like red meat to the lion.

317 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:27:52pm

re: #310 unclassifiable

Oh Man Ted Nugent would have a friggin field day during bowhunting season.

There might not be any left.

Good for him. I hope he gets inspiration for a new album from hunting terrorists.

318 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:28:15pm

re: #312 azcon

I know, I don't want them released at all, and if they were to be released, not in the US. But if they have to be released in the US where do they go? NIMBY right?

They can all be in my backyard. Literally. I need five minutes to prepare.

319 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:28:19pm

re: #308 Killer Tomato

Mwahaha! That is great!

320 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:28:29pm

re: #181 Mich-again

When the Tollybon finally admit that Comrade bin Laden has been worm meat for years and finally get around to scheduling the official funeral who will Obama send to pay respects. Biden, Hillary, or Jeremiah?

1. Are they related to Cinnabon?

2. They won't. Bin Laden is about to turn into the Arab world's version of King Arthur.

321 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:28:30pm

re: #276 newsjunkie_ky

The barney fwank stuff is hilarious as well.

Har de har har

322 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:28:38pm

Good evening y'all - are we still pretty much On Topic about what an idiot Holder and his boss are?

323 psyop  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:28:47pm

re: #301 OldLineTexan

I got a .45 and a shovel.


Heh....

I love my Kimber...

Also, my wife loves her 9mm Springfield. Plus, you can't go wrong with an assortment of high powered rifles and some wilderness nearby.

324 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:29:03pm

Somebody, SHOOT THE TELEPROMPTER!

325 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:29:03pm

re: #315 JCM

The more I read the more it all ties together.

Obama / Alinsky / Cloward Pivens / ACORN / Liberation Theology.

Absolutely. What's scary is that he's a) just getting started and b) not on full throttle yet. Things could get rather ugly within the next 4 years.

326 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:29:08pm

We The People Stimulus Package


327 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:29:18pm

re: #300 Bloodnok

I'm sure Charles would be appreciative of your lack of confidence in his abilities to maintain a reality-based blog in the absence of differing opinions.

You also don't seem to think much of us either. Your comment implies that we would be irrational without these dissenting voices guiding us to the light. I think better of Lizards than that.

Not just right wing blogs can use a pain in the ass or two. BTW, I got as much shit from the leftie sites as I get on here. From the link:

"But I think liberal blog sites ought to provide the same service–a dissenting blogger–so the preachers to the choir there can experience dissent rather than the back patting, ass kissing they seem to revel in."

328 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:29:32pm

re: #322 realwest

Good evening y'all - are we still pretty much On Topic about what an idiot Holder and his boss are?

Hey RW...how are you tonight?

329 astronmr20  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:29:37pm

Realwest!

Hope you got some sunshine in Charlotte today. It's good for ya.

330 Sifty  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:29:38pm

Is there any point at which these idiots in the Obama Admin, including the Commie-in-Chief hisdamnself, can be prosecuted for endangering American lives?

331 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:29:41pm

re: #322 realwest

Good evening y'all - are we still pretty much On Topic about what an idiot Holder and his boss are?

Be vewy qwiet ... weah hunting tewwowists ...

eheheheheheheheheheheh

332 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:29:44pm

re: #313 SanFranciscoZionist

I'll say no on that. Check back July 15?

Otays...:)

333 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:30:07pm

re: #318 OldLineTexan

I'm with you bro!

334 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:30:08pm
335 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:30:14pm

re: #314 OldLineTexan

OK, we'll start out with bare hands only.

Then teaspoons.

I think we'll have to send out for more.

Chuck Norris has to wait three days before he can start.

No, hand one of the terrorists over to Norris at the start, and film the resulting beatdown.

336 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:30:20pm

re: #288 pink freud

In what way?

Because you refute a statement I never made.

337 psyop  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:30:20pm

re: #322 realwest

Good evening y'all - are we still pretty much On Topic about what an idiot Holder and his boss are?

Yes...

With a little bit of:

"Release them near me, I have guns and shovels."

338 Sifty  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:30:21pm

re: #318 OldLineTexan

I'll bring a mop.

339 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:30:36pm

re: #320 SanFranciscoZionist

1. Are they related to Cinnabon?

Talibon.

340 Sosigado  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:30:37pm

Obama has given Eric Holder a big, sharp knife with specific directions to carve up The Constitution like a Thanksgiving turkey.

341 Sheepdogess  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:30:43pm

re: #205 avanti
doo⋅fus /ˈdufəs/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [doo-fuhs]
–noun, plural -fus⋅es.
Slang. a foolish or inept person.
Also, dufus.

342 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:30:47pm

re: #284 Killer Tomato

She asked for a link about the door to door visits we can all look forward to.
I provided it.

Well, our standard poodles could be left out all day. If I hear barking, I'll warn the moonbats off.

343 Gella  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:30:54pm

this is msg to all terrorists, welcome to USA

344 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:31:07pm

re: #328 jorline
Howdy jorline! I'm doing ok tonight - how's about yourself?

345 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:31:13pm

re: #315 JCM

The more I read the more it all ties together.

Obama / Alinsky / Cloward Pivens / ACORN / Liberation Theology.

A lot folks here knew exactly where he was coming from when Charles posted the audio of the interview on Chicago radio.

paraphrased heavily, feel free to search:

Complaining that the Constitution was a statement of things that government can't do (which is true and As Designed) and how there would be advantages to changes to help economic justice.

Commie Rat Bastard.

346 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:31:16pm

re: #324 BatGuano

Somebody, SHOOT THE TELEPROMPTER!

No need to shoot it, just knock it over and stomp on it.

347 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:31:36pm

re: #216 azcon

Rawmuse
3/18/09 7:34:25 pm reply quote

re: #79 azcon

Keep yer ideas to yerself, please. Not all of us are crazed psychos, here.
***


Charles,
How can I change from azcon to Crazed Psycho?

///

Hi--this may have been cleared up and I missed it, but I THINK rawmuse meant not all of us in the Bay Area were crazed psychos, and hence, we didn't want the Gitmo people.

Not that you were a crazed psycho.

Now ending this shalom bayit public service transmission.

348 Kragar  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:31:42pm

Just dropped in so excuse me if its been said

ARE THEY FUCKING INSANE?

349 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:31:54pm

re: #333 pingjockey

I'm with you bro!

My opinion? We've been jacking around for at least four years.

Obama's right ... let's do this.

I just don't think he understands what that means to a bitter clinger.

350 psyop  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:31:56pm

re: #346 Dark_Falcon

No need to shoot it, just knock it over and stomp on it.

Nah, just cover it with white-out.

That would be hilarious.

351 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:32:13pm

re: #348 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

YES!

352 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:32:29pm

re: #329 astronmr20 Well only as much as it took to walk to the mailbox and back - inside chores to do today; we pay enough damn rent for the management company to do ALL the outside maintenance! LOL!
How about you - did you get any sunshine on your face today?

353 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:32:58pm

re: #350 psyop

Nah, just cover it with white-out.

That would be hilarious.

RACIST!

354 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:33:08pm

re: #338 Sifty

I'll bring a mop.

Buzzards gotta eat, same as the worms.

355 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:33:10pm

re: #327 avanti

Not just right wing blogs can use a pain in the ass or two. BTW, I got as much shit from the leftie sites as I get on here. From the link:

"But I think liberal blog sites ought to provide the same service–a dissenting blogger–so the preachers to the choir there can experience dissent rather than the back patting, ass kissing they seem to revel in."

Avanti...there are plenty of dissenting bloggers here...ever visit an ID thread here?

356 funky chicken  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:33:17pm

re: #6 noshariaincanada

nimby

lol, yeah, methinks they may have a problem....

357 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:33:21pm

re: #316 pink freud

LOL!

Rush is highly energized these days and it's a pleasure to listen to him.

Like red meat to the lion.

you're right, rush is on fire,
o has really 'misunderestimated' him as an opponent who could be easily taken out.
rush is not going to be trifled w/ by a blowhard gas bag like o.

358 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:33:24pm

re: #348 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Just dropped in so excuse me if its been said

ARE THEY FUCKING INSANE?

Yes.

359 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:33:26pm

re: #353 Dark_Falcon

AKA-Liquid stupid.

360 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:33:33pm

re: #327 avanti

You're not the first pet troll and you won't be the last.

361 psyop  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:33:39pm

re: #348 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Just dropped in so excuse me if its been said

ARE THEY FUCKING INSANE?

I would only say yes if they released them anywhere near where they lived.

'Course, they don't want to put their community at risk.....

362 Gretchen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:33:58pm

So The One has been POTUS for 8 weeks and his teleprompter is preempting primetime for the third time (or have I lost count). I know he wants to be voted American Idol, but this isn't the way to do it.

Jack Bauer where are you? Come save America please....

363 astronmr20  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:34:02pm

re: #352 realwest

Even though very busy indoors, I made an absolute point in doing so. The older I get, the more I realize the importance of such things.

364 psyop  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:34:05pm

re: #353 Dark_Falcon

RACIST!

Oooh.... my bad.

Black-Out?

365 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:34:08pm

re: #354 OldLineTexan

Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales.

366 Sifty  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:34:09pm

Can we get the Freedom Riders or Hell's Angels to stake out the sites they could be released if/when the time comes?

I would like a proper welcoming party for these poor oppressed sonsabitches.

367 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:34:16pm

re: #345 Van Helsing

A lot folks here knew exactly where he was coming from when Charles posted the audio of the interview on Chicago radio.

paraphrased heavily, feel free to search:

Complaining that the Constitution was a statement of things that government can't do (which is true and As Designed) and how there would be advantages to changes to help economic justice.

Commie Rat Bastard.

That was confirmation. I and others here were calling him a Marxist a year before the election.

368 Attaboid  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:34:31pm

We could declare Pirate Day and be done with them?

369 CynicalConservative  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:34:39pm

re: #360 Sharmuta

You're not the first pet troll and you won't be the last.

Such a lovely way with words.

How are ya tonight? ;-)

370 Sifty  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:34:44pm

re: #354 OldLineTexan

We need a President Josey Wales for damnsure.

371 Gella  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:35:08pm

re: #362 Gretchen

So The One has been POTUS for 8 weeks and his teleprompter is preempting primetime for the third time (or have I lost count). I know he wants to be voted American Idol, but this isn't the way to do it.

Jack Bauer where are you? Come save America please....

don't forget battery nipple gate
///

372 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:35:10pm

"Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan

373 astronmr20  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:35:33pm

re: #362 Gretchen

He's being hamstrung by the liberal administration in his world, just like our Jack Bauers are right now.

He'll have to get back to you later.

374 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:35:46pm

re: #360 Sharmuta

You're not the first pet troll and you won't be the last.

*hack* *hack* *cough* *choke* *spew*

Vain attempt to keep my beer off my screen.

ROFL!

375 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:35:53pm
376 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:35:56pm
377 Gretchen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:35:57pm

re: #357 nyc redneck

you're right, rush is on fire,
o has really 'misunderestimated' him as an opponent who could be easily taken out.
rush is not going to be trifled w/ by a blowhard gas bag like o.

Rush talks for 3 hours without a teleprompter OOOOh, ahhhh Ohhhbama can't make sense for a second without his.

378 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:36:08pm

re: #336 Mich-again

Because you refute a statement I never made.

Ah. I see. It is my "hellbent" qualifier, then, that you identify as the strawman?

0bama seems hellbent - along with his cronies - on bringing this country to its knees and you think rooting for this to fail is a stupid thing?

379 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:36:54pm

re: #344 realwest

Howdy jorline! I'm doing ok tonight - how's about yourself?

I'm well, thanks RW. Spring breakers are in town...life is good...this week. :)

380 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:37:21pm

I certainly hope that the Republican voters who stayed home in 2006 and 2008 to "teach the Republicans a lesson" are now satisfied.

If they could only see past the ends of their noses, we might have a chance.

Good grief!

This is exactly what happens when people get lazy, and take everything for granted, and don't inform themselves.

They deserve exactly this!

381 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:37:28pm
382 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:38:10pm

re: #380 republic

Yeah, but WE don't.
:-(

383 Sheepdogess  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:38:14pm

re: #348 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Just dropped in so excuse me if its been said

ARE THEY FUCKING INSANE?

Yes, they are.

384 Sifty  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:38:26pm

re: #380 republic

Problem is, the rest of us are screwed right along with them.

385 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:38:35pm

re: #331 OldLineTexan
Be qwiet? fuck that "HERE terry, terry, terry - I got a gift for you from your bud, Barry (sounds of round being racked into chamber of Mossberg)!

386 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:38:43pm

re: #368 Attaboid

We could declare Pirate Day and be done with them?

387 brennk2  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:38:55pm

Sarah Jane Olson (former 70’s SLA terrorist) was paroled back to Minnesota today after completing 7-years of a 14-year term in a California prison for a deadly bank robbery and planting pipe bombs under LA squad cars. Since we already have her back we may as well take some of the Gitmo boys. There would be one condition though. They’d have to live next to old Sarah. Got to keep all the bombers/terrorists in one place you know. Hopefully they’d have a ‘work accident’ and take each other out.

388 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:39:12pm

re: #327 avanti

Not just right wing blogs can use a pain in the ass or two. BTW, I got as much shit from the leftie sites as I get on here. From the link:

"But I think liberal blog sites ought to provide the same service–a dissenting blogger–so the preachers to the choir there can experience dissent rather than the back patting, ass kissing they seem to revel in."

Fine. If you think we need to be kept honest lest we descend into right wing echo chamber madness then more power to you.

If you paid attention you would find that the reason that this blog is NOT like the type of blog mentioned in your link is because of the class and civility of the host. Nutjobs are shown the door and rational posters thrive. It was this way before you or I got here.

389 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:39:12pm

re: #380 republic

I certainly hope that the Republican voters who stayed home in 2006 and 2008 to "teach the Republicans a lesson" are now satisfied.

If they could only see past the ends of their noses, we might have a chance.

Good grief!

This is exactly what happens when people get lazy, and take everything for granted, and don't inform themselves.

They deserve exactly this!

We don't. . .

390 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:39:23pm

re: #380 republic

Bill Clinton was elected twice because enough Republicans wanted to send the GOP a message by voting for Ross Perot.

391 Muadib  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:39:33pm

This is just one of many reckless and devastating actions that will bring about 0bama's downfall. May he live forever in infamy.

392 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:39:46pm

re: #357 nyc redneck

you're right, rush is on fire,
o has really 'misunderestimated' him as an opponent who could be easily taken out.
rush is not going to be trifled w/ by a blowhard gas bag like o.

...and Putin, and dinnerjacket, and lil kim, and assad ....

393 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:39:49pm
394 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:39:51pm

re: #385 realwest

Be qwiet? fuck that "HERE terry, terry, terry - I got a gift for you from your bud, Barry (sounds of round being racked into chamber of Mossberg)!

OK, YOU clean that one.

Ick.

/

395 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:40:08pm

re: #382 Killer Tomato

Yeah, but WE don't.
:-(


Even I am held in check for not doing more.

396 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:40:32pm

re: #387 brennk2

Sarah Jane Olson (former 70’s SLA terrorist) was paroled back to Minnesota today after completing 7-years of a 14-year term in a California prison for a deadly bank robbery and planting pipe bombs under LA squad cars. Since we already have her back we may as well take some of the Gitmo boys. There would be one condition though. They’d have to live next to old Sarah. Got to keep all the bombers/terrorists in one place you know. Hopefully they’d have a ‘work accident’ and take each other out.

That would be quite the cunning stunt.
Another amateur murderer getting a pass. F***ing INEPT terrorist scum.

397 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:40:57pm

re: #363 astronmr20
Very smart of you to do so, I must say. But when My Mom says CHORES that's what y'all do!

398 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:40:58pm

re: #326 Dustyvet

We The People Stimulus Package




Thanks for posting that. Everyone should go back and watch/listen.

399 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:41:01pm

re: #369 CynicalConservative

I'm not bad. Started a new diet today, which is very unlike me, but I'm excited.

400 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:41:10pm

re: #389 DisturbedEma

We don't. . .


Sometimes it takes a great series of tragedies for people to wake up.

I'm not holding my breath.

401 Code Red 21  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:41:25pm

re: #276 newsjunkie_ky

LOL, the 0 just keeps giving Rush so much material. The barney fwank stuff is hilarious as well.
People who don't listen to him should start now. He is the only sane voice out there.

He was saying today that his audience has gotten bigger since BO's peeps went after him.

402 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:41:37pm

re: #388 Bloodnok

Fine. If you think we need to be kept honest lest we descend into right wing echo chamber madness then more power to you.

If you paid attention you would find that the reason that this blog is NOT like the type of blog mentioned in your link is because of the class and civility of the host. Nutjobs are shown the door and rational posters thrive. It was this way before you or I got here.

A very fine answer- but a peek at any of the threads about creation and schools will show this is NOT an echo chamber. . .my democrat who voted republican in 2008 and hopes to live to talk about it. . .self says this is not like the krapkos site. . .or others

403 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:41:40pm

re: #396 Van Helsing

That would be quite the cunning stunt.

? Oh. You said cunning stunt. Nevermind..

404 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:41:56pm

re: #378 pink freud

Ah. I see. It is my "hellbent" qualifier, then, that you identify as the strawman?

0bama seems hellbent - along with his cronies - on bringing this country to its knees and you think rooting for this to fail is a stupid thing?

I posted earlier in the day something to this effect.

I want the President and this country to succeed. Success means security and prosperity. That's what I want and pray for.

Obama's agenda is contrary to those goals, both success of the President and the Country. Obama's agenda if he were to be succeed in those goals would mean the President and the Nations security and prosperity are at grave risk.

Obama the person has an agenda. That agenda is not compatible with the Office of President and the sworn duty of the occupant of the office.

You have to separate the personal agenda of Obama the man, and the Duties of the Office of the President.

405 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:42:03pm

.re: #307 nyc redneck

LOL, i always feel better when i hear rush.
hey, he doesn't call him barney frank anymore.
he calls him "barney's frank"

hahahahaha

Rush had a throwaway line today when talking about the AIG chief's testimony before Congress in which Rush referred to Frank as the "Banking Queen".

(Rush hasn't been this edgy since the first Clinton administration.)

406 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:42:23pm

re: #364 psyop

Oooh.... my bad.

Black-Out?

RACIST! ;)

407 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:42:30pm

re: #390 Mich-again

Bill Clinton was elected twice because enough Republicans wanted to send the GOP a message by voting for Ross Perot.


So, what you are saying, is America will never wake up?

408 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:42:34pm

re: #327 avanti

"But I think liberal blog sites ought to provide the same service–a dissenting blogger–so the preachers to the choir there can experience dissent rather than the back patting, ass kissing they seem to revel in."


So you stand behind your assertion that "some on here were almost gleeful when the market tanked"? Or were you just making shit up to, you know, stir up the choir? Make 'em sing as it were?

You are not a dissenting blogger. You are a lying asshole with an unjustifiably large ego. Did I mention that you are not amusing?

409 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:42:49pm

"barney's frank" that just cracks me up.
lol
i know i'm going to be in public somewhere and think of that and laugh
like a crazy person.

410 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:43:03pm

re: #404 JCM

I posted earlier in the day something to this effect.

I want the President and this country to succeed. Success means security and prosperity. That's what I want and pray for.

Obama's agenda is contrary to those goals, both success of the President and the Country. Obama's agenda if he were to be succeed in those goals would mean the President and the Nations security and prosperity are at grave risk.

Obama the person has an agenda. That agenda is not compatible with the Office of President and the sworn duty of the occupant of the office.

You have to separate the personal agenda of Obama the man, and the Duties of the Office of the President.

Very well said. Upding!

411 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:43:16pm

News Update: Army Unveils New Award

Subject: Combat Briefing Badge (CBB)

Recognizing the need for an award for troops assigned to headquarters units during combat operations, the Army today announced the approval of the Combat Briefing Badge, or CBB. "People don't realize that being in a major headquarters can be just as stressful as going on patrols or convoys," said MAJ John Remf. "When you're briefing that many General Officers, your career can end in a heartbeat. And it can happen to anyone at any time, not just combat arms soldiers." DOD statistics note that CSS personnel are more likely to suffer career-ending incidents in rear areas than Combat Arms Soldiers. "This just reflects that reality," said Pentagon spokesman LTC Roger Pogue.

The award ranks in precedence below the CIB and CAB, but above the EIB and PowerPoint Ranger tab.

The criteria for the award is still under discussion, but preliminary guidance authorizes the award for 30 days of continuous briefings of officers at least two grades higher than the briefer without incident while serving in a theater of operations in which the awardee is eligible for hostile fire and hazardous duty pay.

412 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:43:29pm

re: #409 nyc redneck

"barney's frank" that just cracks me up.
lol
i know i'm going to be in public somewhere and think of that and laugh
like a crazy person.

EWWW!

413 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:43:44pm

re: #376 Iron Fist
"Obama is as crazy as a man who thinks he has flourecent writing on the inside of his skull that he can read if he can just get the angle of his head right."
Must be why he keeps looking upwards and towards his right! LOL!
Evening Bro'!

414 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:43:48pm

re: #407 republic

So, what you are saying, is America will never wake up?

We wake up fine. We just keep hitting the damn snooze button.

415 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:43:53pm

re: #384 Sifty

Problem is, the rest of us are screwed right along with them.

I don't rely on government for much of anything.

My Faith is not in man.

416 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:43:58pm

re: #407 republic

Nope. It will wake up when we have another 9/11 or worse. Until then, yeah, sleepwalking through life.

417 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:44:04pm

re: #400 republic

Sometimes it takes a great series of tragedies for people to wake up.

I'm not holding my breath.

I am worried another attack will dust off the 9-11 fatigue that the media got. . .so much so they stoped showing footage altogether to ease the suffering. . .I am worried about a "been there dine that attitude" and with this asshat in office? Feh!

418 brennk2  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:44:12pm

re: #412 Dark_Falcon


typically placed in a bun, no?

419 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:44:28pm

OT: I think I have a plan to raise money for my fishing license. Early in my career I built a few electric guitars. They suck and really can't be sold but I noticed a new guitar repair place near me. If I take out the pickups and pots I might be able to get some money out of them for spare parts.
Wish me luck

420 Macker  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:44:55pm

re: #32 Anthony (Los Angeles)

I have an idea: Take them to New York and tell them that, if they can make it off Manhattan Island, they're free.

And be sure to advertise the time and place on NYC TV for three days beforehand.

You mean like this?

--

“Mister bin Laden, you are free to go. This court is adjourned.” He slammed down the gavel for the last time. It was followed by a silence felt around the world. Osama bin Laden rose from his chair a free man. He slowly walked out of the courtroom…only to find the corridors outside totally deserted and tranquil.
He could not believe what he was seeing. His pace quickened as he approached the main security checkpoints used for inspecting visitors and workers entering the courthouse. No one manned the posts and the doors to freedom and fresh air were just ahead.
He reached them and opened a door. Outside he looked up, saw the sunny skies, and found a lone car waiting at the base of the fifty steps to take him to Queens and John F. Kennedy International Airport. Again he found total desertion and tranquility.
He shouted at the top of his lungs in Arabic, “God is Great!” which echoed among the tall buildings of the city; he commenced running down the steps toward the waiting limousine. On the twenty-sixth step, a noise emanated from the streets so quickly that by the time he reached the thirty-seventh step, it was deafening. Osama witnessed a massive throng of New Yorkers bypassing the waiting limo and surrounding him.
It was at this moment that Osama bin Laden knew the finality of his life was at hand. He realized the softhearted mercy of the complacent American people was a fallacy. His eyes widened with terror as the crowd surged forward and engulfed him in their midst.
And Osama bin Laden got it in THE END!
421 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:45:16pm

re: #411 Dustyvet

News Update: Army Unveils New Award

Subject: Combat Briefing Badge (CBB)

Recognizing the need for an award for troops assigned to headquarters units during combat operations, the Army today announced the approval of the Combat Briefing Badge, or CBB. "People don't realize that being in a major headquarters can be just as stressful as going on patrols or convoys," said MAJ John Remf. "When you're briefing that many General Officers, your career can end in a heartbeat. And it can happen to anyone at any time, not just combat arms soldiers." DOD statistics note that CSS personnel are more likely to suffer career-ending incidents in rear areas than Combat Arms Soldiers. "This just reflects that reality," said Pentagon spokesman LTC Roger Pogue.

The award ranks in precedence below the CIB and CAB, but above the EIB and PowerPoint Ranger tab.

The criteria for the award is still under discussion, but preliminary guidance authorizes the award for 30 days of continuous briefings of officers at least two grades higher than the briefer without incident while serving in a theater of operations in which the awardee is eligible for hostile fire and hazardous duty pay.

You forgot the Teleprompter Jockey Medal. That medal was just created by Barack Obama (he awarded the first one to himself).

422 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:45:18pm

re: #411 Dustyvet

I started laughing and then thought "aw shit, under this administration, this could be true".

423 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:45:18pm

re: #407 republic

So, what you are saying, is America will never wake up?

Geeze what is this a strawman parade. I never said that. How the heck do you make that leap.

424 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:45:30pm

re: #419 Killgore Trout

Good luck!

425 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:45:33pm

re: #414 Van Helsing

We wake up fine. We just keep hitting the damn snooze button.


I don't!

I've known what is on the line since I've been 6 years old, and I get more Patriotic the older I get.

426 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:45:40pm

re: #419 Killgore Trout

Good luck!

427 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:45:42pm

re: #405 Dar ul Harb

.

Rush had a throwaway line today when talking about the AIG chief's testimony before Congress in which Rush referred to Frank as the "Banking Queen".

(Rush hasn't been this edgy since the first Clinton administration.)

It's a parody song......

428 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:45:44pm

re: #418 brennk2

typically placed in a bun, no?

SMACK!

429 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:45:47pm

POCKET REMINDER FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T SURE ABOUT AVANTI.

I'll admit I have not, but unlike some others, I hope he succeeds in turning the economy. If being happy when the market goes ups, and my IRA goes up is selfish, so be it. I never said word when some on here were almost gleeful when the market tanked, allow me to be happy if it goes up. If BHO plan does not work. or can't work, then the market will tank again.

He claims some here were "almost gleeful" about the down-fall of our economy.

430 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:46:10pm

re: #355 jorline

Of course, the ID threads, but I'm talking about the more political topics. I have to believe that most blogs, be they left or right have regular posters that might be bit more extreme then the more moderate lurkers, and tend to try and shut down even civil discussion they disagree with.
At least this forum does not give the devil's advocates the boot.

431 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:46:28pm

re: #394 OldLineTexan
Shoot (so to speak!) from 6 feet away, only thing left to clean is my shirt!

432 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:46:29pm

Well, they didn't say where in the U.S. they'd release the Gitmo graduates.

There are some uninhabited Alaskan islands that come to mind.

Make sure they're well-stocked with ravenous grizzly bears, Gov. Palin!.

433 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:46:51pm

re: #318 OldLineTexan

I do believe I came very close to posting my first deleted comment on that one.

Annd I mean that in a totally supportive way

434 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:46:52pm

re: #419 Killgore Trout

If they look bad enough, they could be objets d'art.
Seriously.

435 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:46:59pm

re: #265 OldLineTexan

I won't let my rat terrier hunt terrorists, because then I would have to get his stomach pumped and his teeth cleaned.

They also carry rabies. And sometimes plague.

436 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:47:12pm

re: #423 Mich-again

Geeze what is this a strawman parade. I never said that. How the heck do you make that leap.


Very funny.

437 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:47:24pm

re: #411 Dustyvet

News Update: Army Unveils New Award

Subject: Combat Briefing Badge (CBB)

Recognizing the need for an award for troops assigned to headquarters units during combat operations, the Army today announced the approval of the Combat Briefing Badge, or CBB. "People don't realize that being in a major headquarters can be just as stressful as going on patrols or convoys," said MAJ John Remf. "When you're briefing that many General Officers, your career can end in a heartbeat. And it can happen to anyone at any time, not just combat arms soldiers." DOD statistics note that CSS personnel are more likely to suffer career-ending incidents in rear areas than Combat Arms Soldiers. "This just reflects that reality," said Pentagon spokesman LTC Roger Pogue.

The award ranks in precedence below the CIB and CAB, but above the EIB and PowerPoint Ranger tab.

The criteria for the award is still under discussion, but preliminary guidance authorizes the award for 30 days of continuous briefings of officers at least two grades higher than the briefer without incident while serving in a theater of operations in which the awardee is eligible for hostile fire and hazardous duty pay.

Heh. There has to be some way to work in Fobbit.
My eldest son detests Fobbits...

438 Teacake!  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:47:35pm

Every nation on earth must be laughing with glee over how obama and the dems are bringing us down just the way they all have wanted. Pompous bourgeois just like in the days of Louis 15 or is it 16? All that's missing are the slik stockings, frilly pantaloons and lipstick. Oh wait! Barney Frank comes to mind

439 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:47:38pm

re: #432 Dar ul Harb

Well, they didn't say where in the U.S. they'd release the Gitmo graduates.

There are some uninhabited Alaskan islands that come to mind.

Make sure they're well-stocked with ravenous grizzly bears, Gov. Palin!.

Grizzlies? With all those drowning global warming polar bears around?

/

440 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:48:08pm

re: #404 JCM

I posted earlier in the day something to this effect.

I want the President and this country to succeed. Success means security and prosperity. That's what I want and pray for.

Obama's agenda is contrary to those goals, both success of the President and the Country. Obama's agenda if he were to be succeed in those goals would mean the President and the Nations security and prosperity are at grave risk.

Obama the person has an agenda. That agenda is not compatible with the Office of President and the sworn duty of the occupant of the office.

You have to separate the personal agenda of Obama the man, and the Duties of the Office of the President.

Well said, JCM, but I believe we err when we equate our meaning of "success" with (what I infer to be) 0bama's meaning of success.

I do not believe for one second 0bama believes in the security and prosperity of Americans, whatever class or race or creed. I believe his version of success is triumph over the population, punishment to the self-made and successful, the permanent weakening, dependency, and victimhod of the "welfare population", and personal power.

441 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:48:14pm

re: #437 Van Helsing

Heh. There has to be some way to work in Fobbit.
My eldest son detests Fobbits...

But you need a Fobbit to carry the One Ring!

////

442 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:48:31pm

re: #433 unclassifiable

I do believe I came very close to posting my first deleted comment on that one.

Annd I mean that in a totally supportive way

It's like momma said ... if you can't say anything nice ...

443 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:48:34pm

re: #424 Sharmuta

Thanks. I was turned down for part time seasonal work at a nursery today for not having retail nursery experience. My graduate degree mocks me.

444 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:49:04pm

re: #435 SanFranciscoZionist

They also carry rabies. And sometimes plague.

LOL

445 Gretchen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:49:13pm

re: #419 Killgore Trout

OT: I think I have a plan to raise money for my fishing license. Early in my career I built a few electric guitars. They suck and really can't be sold but I noticed a new guitar repair place near me. If I take out the pickups and pots I might be able to get some money out of them for spare parts.
Wish me luck

Did you mean sea kitten license?

446 the_flying_pig  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:49:16pm

They'll be releasing into the US? Let's roll out the red carpet, throw flowers, hire the polka music band, buy loads of confetti and get a large group of lazy, hippie leftists to greet them!

447 azcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:49:30pm

re: #318 OldLineTexan

re: #347 SanFranciscoZionist

OK thanks, I guess that makes sense, I was a bit defensive. I know there are a few sane people in the bay area and I would not wish the Gitmo unlawful enemy combatants be released on them or anyone one the US for that matter. Thanks and
shalom

448 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:49:44pm

re: #429 MandyManners

POCKET REMINDER FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T SURE ABOUT AVANTI.

I'll admit I have not, but unlike some others, I hope he succeeds in turning the economy. If being happy when the market goes ups, and my IRA goes up is selfish, so be it. I never said word when some on here were almost gleeful when the market tanked, allow me to be happy if it goes up. If BHO plan does not work. or can't work, then the market will tank again.

He claims some here were "almost gleeful" about the down-fall of our economy.

Supported by several links......NOT

449 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:49:49pm

re: #419 Killgore Trout

OT: I think I have a plan to raise money for my fishing license. Early in my career I built a few electric guitars. They suck and really can't be sold but I noticed a new guitar repair place near me. If I take out the pickups and pots I might be able to get some money out of them for spare parts.
Wish me luck

Hey, you could be the new Paul Reed Smith.

450 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:49:54pm

re: #443 Killgore Trout

Thanks. I was turned down for part time seasonal work at a nursery today for not having retail nursery experience. My graduate degree mocks me.


Work is for people who can't fish!

:D

451 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:50:06pm

re: #411 Dustyvet
"while serving in a theater of operations in which the awardee is ineligible for hostile fire and hazardous duty pay."
TFTFY!
How are ya tonight Dusty?

452 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:50:10pm

Hate to throw this out to the lizards and not get to discuss it much but:

An unnamed former highly-placed U.S.intelligence official has broken silence and says that America may soon be abandoning Israel in favor of the Arabs. “This is just the beginning”, he said, "Israel could be about to lose the support of the United States."


Read the whole story

Now, this isn't exactly news to us lizards, but now we have some confirmation.

453 Timbre  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:50:12pm

Mr. Holder: Be sure to release them within the jurisdiction of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. In this manner, the ex-detainees will gain the best opportunity of justice and restitution for their years of suffering and illegal detention.

/see, I can write like a freaking moonbat, too!

454 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:50:15pm

re: #443 Killgore Trout

Thanks. I was turned down for part time seasonal work at a nursery today for not having retail nursery experience. My graduate degree mocks me.

That sucks. My neighbor would kill for some good seasonal help at his place. He's also in need of a manager ... the last guy "didn't quite work out", LOL.

455 Macker  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:50:30pm

re: #432 Dar ul Harb

Well, they didn't say where in the U.S. they'd release the Gitmo graduates.

There are some uninhabited Alaskan islands that come to mind.

Make sure they're well-stocked with ravenous grizzly bears, Gov. Palin!.

Yeah, the ones which give their victims two choices: get mauled to death or have sex!

456 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:50:42pm

re: #434 rawmuse

Nah. They look ok from 15-20 feet away but they play like shit. Worthless. I've come close to feeding them through the bandsaw a few times but I can't quite bring myself to do it.

457 Teacake!  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:50:51pm
Code Red -
re: #276 newsjunkie_ky

LOL, the 0 just keeps giving Rush so much material. The barney fwank stuff is hilarious as well.

How on earth did that vile little troll even get elected or taken seriously in the first place is a giant mystery. How any of them can stand to be in the same room with him i don't understand. These people in the dem party need to be dragged into the street, apple stuffed in their pie holes, tarred and feathered and put in one of those wooden slabs in the middle of the town square.

458 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:50:58pm

re: #427 JCM

I should've known it was Paul Shanklin...

459 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:51:21pm

re: #419 Killgore Trout

OT: I think I have a plan to raise money for my fishing license. Early in my career I built a few electric guitars. They suck and really can't be sold but I noticed a new guitar repair place near me. If I take out the pickups and pots I might be able to get some money out of them for spare parts.
Wish me luck

For some reason I will personally feel better if I know you are out there fishing, KT.

LUCK!

460 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:51:39pm

re: #339 Alouette

Talibon.

How, uh...sweet?

461 Gretchen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:51:42pm

re: #446 the_flying_pig

They'll be releasing into the US? Let's roll out the red carpet, throw flowers, hire the polka music band, buy loads of confetti and get a large group of lazy, hippie leftists to greet them!


I'm sure Bill Ayers, Cindy Sheehan and Ward Churchill have some extra space to let them crash for a while.

462 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:51:47pm

re: #441 JCM

But you need a Fobbit to carry the One Ring!

////

And if the One Ring looks like a tire that just got blown off your HUMVEE the f***ing Fobbit won't give it to you because 'it's someone else's tire'.

The kid tells me that while the Fobbit didn't speak Elvish, EVERYONE speaks M4. It translated to, "We're taking the f***ing tire. Try to stop us."

463 funky chicken  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:52:02pm

re: #325 Gus 802

Absolutely. What's scary is that he's a) just getting started and b) not on full throttle yet. Things could get rather ugly within the next 4 years.

the people who will be able to stop him and shoot down the worst of the proposals are the sane democrats in congress. Pelosi and Reid will try to intimidate them, but it won't work all of the time.

464 Sheepdogess  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:52:08pm

re: #323 psyop
I lore: #407 republic

So, what you are saying, is America will never wake up?


It seems that Stalen's dopey worshipers in academia, news media, entertainment and government have succeeded in dumbing down the masses, perhaps to the point of no return. Have you tried to reason with a liberal lately?

465 the_flying_pig  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:52:58pm

re: #432 Dar ul Harb

I say it's a good time to ride the helicopter, hunt and shoot down wolves Gitmo prisoners from the air. We'll just say "wolves" to the Alaska Park Rangers if we have to explain what we just did.

466 brennk2  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:53:04pm

re: #457 Teacake!

How on earth did that vile little troll even get elected or taken seriously in the first place is a giant mystery. How any of them can stand to be in the same room with him i don't understand. These people in the dem party need to be dragged into the street, apple stuffed in their pie holes, tarred and feathered and put in one of those wooden slabs in the middle of the town square.


I'm not quite sure Barney would view our suggestion as punishment.

467 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:53:10pm

re: #456 Killgore Trout

You got any bass bows?

468 Code Red 21  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:53:22pm

re: #452 Kosh's Shadow

Hate to throw this out to the lizards and not get to discuss it much but:


Read the whole story

Now, this isn't exactly news to us lizards, but now we have some confirmation.

We are in whale shit deep shit when this happens. Is it OK to say I don't support our POTUS now?

469 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:53:25pm

re: #441 JCM

But you need a Fobbit to carry the One Ring!

////

And then hope the Ring doesn't get intercepted by the Dark Lord Soros.

470 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:53:32pm

re: #462 Van Helsing

And if the One Ring looks like a tire that just got blown off your HUMVEE the f***ing Fobbit won't give it to you because 'it's someone else's tire'.

The kid tells me that while the Fobbit didn't speak Elvish, EVERYONE speaks M4. It translated to, "We're taking the f***ing tire. Try to stop us."

ROFLMAO!

471 Teacake!  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:53:32pm

Wouldn't be surprised if Charlie Manson is released next and give the record deal he's always wanted.

472 Teacake!  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:54:05pm

Good point brennk2 LOL

473 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:54:50pm

re: #451 realwest

"while serving in a theater of operations in which the awardee is ineligible for hostile fire and hazardous duty pay."
TFTFY!
How are ya tonight Dusty?

Doing well here, Tigers discovered the top og the kitchen cabinets a swell sleeping spot, ans it's quite...:0)How's things woth you and your mom?

474 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:55:13pm

re: #457 Teacake!

How on earth did that vile little troll even get elected or taken seriously in the first place is a giant mystery. How any of them can stand to be in the same room with him i don't understand. These people in the dem party need to be dragged into the street, apple stuffed in their pie holes, tarred and feathered and put in one of those wooden slabs in the middle of the town square.

Several years ago I was part of a group that met with him in his Boston area office. I didn't really know much about him - he wasn't my elected official and I wasn't particularly politically aware at the time.
Within a minute and a half of meeting him I thought to myself, "this is the most colossal ass**** I've ever met".
I have no idea why anyone would ever vote for him for anything.

475 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:55:14pm

re: #430 avanti

At least this forum does not give the devil's advocates the boot.


Actually, I once saw Charles whack someone for being an asshole, very rare, only saw this once...but it happened. Just wanted to point that out.

Devil's advocate my ass. You are here to gratify yourself and I say fine. Go right ahead but don't expect many of us to watch as it is not very seemly you know.

476 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:55:15pm

re: #405 Dar ul Harb

.


Rush had a throwaway line today when talking about the AIG chief's testimony before Congress in which Rush referred to Frank as the "Banking Queen".

(Rush hasn't been this edgy since the first Clinton administration.)

You know, I prefer Larry the Cable Guy.

477 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:55:18pm

re: #443 Killgore Trout

I'm not surprised, but I am sorry. Glad to hear you're problem solving though. Good luck getting the license.

478 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:55:49pm

re: #464 Sheepdogess

I lore: #407 republic


It seems that Stalen's dopey worshipers in academia, news media, entertainment and government have succeeded in dumbing down the masses, perhaps to the point of no return. Have you tried to reason with a liberal lately?

It's some of the best humor in any day.

Leftists are detached from all reality.

479 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:56:13pm
480 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:56:17pm

Totally OT, already 2 bannings on the ID thread! Much silliness from some quarters. One banee having no less than 6 sock puppets.

481 Teacake!  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:56:41pm

Tomato, he is just pure vile. I don't know how he can even be gay, meaning, why would anyone let him touch them! Even for a million dollars. Yuck!

482 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:56:43pm

re: #469 Dark_Falcon

And then hope the Ring doesn't get intercepted by the Dark Lord Soros.

Watch out for the Ringwraiths.

483 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:57:35pm

re: #463 funky chicken

the people who will be able to stop him and shoot down the worst of the proposals are the sane democrats in congress. Pelosi and Reid will try to intimidate them, but it won't work all of the time.

There seems to be a couple of rumblings from the Blue Dogs but I wonder how effective they can be. I have a tendency to think that it might also be a "good cop/bad cop" routine. Whatever opposition we can muster should be appreciated in the long run but the momentum and numbers are in the oppositions favor. If the poll numbers are correct it may be as close as 2010 where we can see a return to democracy with a more balanced congress. As it stands now it is basically Leftist-Democrat Party regime.

484 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:57:44pm
485 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:57:48pm

re: #447 azcon

re: #347 SanFranciscoZionist

OK thanks, I guess that makes sense, I was a bit defensive. I know there are a few sane people in the bay area and I would not wish the Gitmo unlawful enemy combatants be released on them or anyone one the US for that matter. Thanks and
shalom

No problem, it just seemed to have hurt your feelings. Which I do not think was at all intended.

486 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:57:54pm
487 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:57:59pm

re: #452 Kosh's Shadow
Hey KS - from your link: "The source made these remarks in an exclusive interview with Douglas J. Hagmann, the director of the Northeast Intelligence Network,"
respectfully, I woulnd't put it past Obama to abandon Israel, but the Norteast Intellignece Network is somewhat less reliable than Debka.

488 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:58:07pm

re: #467 rawmuse

You got any bass bows?

Nope. I get cello bows sometimes. A few violin bows. No bass bows.

489 lostlakehiker  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:58:10pm

They have a right to some civilian clothing when released. Shoes, shirt, pants, vest, vest, vest, ----

490 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:58:24pm

re: #468 Code Red 21

We are in whale shit deep shit when this happens. Is it OK to say I don't support our POTUS now?

That'll no more happen than the 0 telling veterans that any war wounds have to be dealt with by their private insurance.

You're living in some weird, teleprompter induced fantasyland.

/must I?

491 brennk2  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:58:35pm

re: #480 pingjockey

I should know this I'm sure but what's a 'sock puppet'?

492 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:58:36pm

re: #480 pingjockey

Totally OT, already 2 bannings on the ID thread! Much silliness from some quarters. One banee having no less than 6 sock puppets.

It gets tiresome (not the threads) the un-originality of the the ID trolls, gets tiresome.

493 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:58:37pm

The old Navy Chief finally retired and got that chicken ranch he always wanted. He took
with him his life-long pet parrot.

First morning at 0430, the parrot squawked loudly and said, “Reveille, Reveille. Up all
hands. Heave out and trice up. The smoking lamp is lighted, now Reveille.”

The old chief told the parrot, “We are no longer in the Navy. Go back to sleep.”

The next morning, the parrot did the same thing. Chief told the parrot, “If you keep this up, I'll put you out in the chicken pen.”

Again the parrot did it, and true to his word, the Chief put the parrot in the chicken pen.

About 0630 the next morning, the Chief was awakened by one heck of a ruckus in the chicken pen. He went out to see what was the matter. The parrot had about 40 white chickens at attention in formation, and on the ground laid 3 bruised and beaten brown chickens. The parrot was saying, “By God, when I say fall out in dress whites, I don't
mean Khakis!”

494 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:59:30pm

re: #461 Gretchen

I'm sure Bill Ayers, Cindy Sheehan and Ward Churchill have some extra space to let them crash for a while.

Sadly, you ain't joking sister. Let's not ask them.

495 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:59:42pm

re: #483 Gus 802

There seems to be a couple of rumblings from the Blue Dogs but I wonder how effective they can be. I have a tendency to think that it might also be a "good cop/bad cop" routine. Whatever opposition we can muster should be appreciated in the long run but the momentum and numbers are in the oppositions favor. If the poll numbers are correct it may be as close as 2010 where we can see a return to democracy with a more balanced congress. As it stands now it is basically Leftist-Democrat Party regime.

65 House Democrats, led by a Democrat, sent a letter to Eric Holder today, telling him that any "assualt weapons ban" is dead in the water.

Heh.

496 azcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:59:48pm

re: #318 OldLineTexan

I'm lookin' to get to that point as well!

497 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:59:55pm

re: #482 JCM

Watch out for the Ringwraiths.

Warnings are good. I might have children in the room!

That is some scary stuff, there.

498 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 8:59:55pm

Walking in sunlight all of my journey,
Over the mountains, through the deep vale;
Jesus has said, I’ll never forsake thee—
Promise divine that never can fail.

Refrain:
Heavenly sunlight! Heavenly sunlight!
Flooding my soul with glory divine;
Hallelujah! I am rejoicing,
Singing His praises, Jesus is mine!

Shadows around me, shadows above me
Never conceal my Savior and Guide;
He is the light, in Him is no darkness,
Ever I’m walking close to His side.
In the bright sunlight, ever rejoicing,
Pressing my way to mansions above;
Singing His praises, gladly I’m walking,
Walking in sunlight, sunlight of love.


Jesus is mine.

499 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:00:05pm

re: #491 brennk2

A poster who has multiple 'personalities'. Different nics, etc...

500 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:00:25pm

re: #495 republic

65 House Democrats, led by a Democrat, sent a letter to Eric Holder today, telling him that any "assualt weapons ban" is dead in the water.

Heh.

Good to hear.

501 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:00:25pm

re: #488 Killgore Trout

I am in the market for one for a student of mine. I went to Ifshin violins in El Cerrito the other day, they had some killer ones, all about five bills or better.

502 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:00:45pm

re: #489 lostlakehiker

They have a right to some civilian clothing when released. Shoes, shirt, pants, vest, vest, vest, ----

Wouldn't they only need one vest?

503 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:00:50pm

This isn't news, this is what has to happen.

They can't be repatriated in their home countries and no one else wants them.

There are no other choices.

Plus there is the glut of foreclosed upon homes that need occupants.

What could possibly go wrong?

504 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:00:51pm

re: #492 JCM

There were a couple of good ones, Lucy is a fraud, etc...

505 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:01:10pm

re: #467 rawmuse

I actually made a tomato cage for the garden once out of broken bows. Pernumbuco lasted 7-8 years outside in the oregon rain before it gave up.

506 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:01:37pm

re: #498 MandyManners

Walking in sunlight all of my journey,
Over the mountains, through the deep vale;
Jesus has said, I’ll never forsake thee—
Promise divine that never can fail.

Refrain:
Heavenly sunlight! Heavenly sunlight!
Flooding my soul with glory divine;
Hallelujah! I am rejoicing,
Singing His praises, Jesus is mine!

Shadows around me, shadows above me
Never conceal my Savior and Guide;
He is the light, in Him is no darkness,
Ever I’m walking close to His side.
In the bright sunlight, ever rejoicing,
Pressing my way to mansions above;
Singing His praises, gladly I’m walking,
Walking in sunlight, sunlight of love.

Jesus is mine.


Amen, sister.

507 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:01:54pm
508 brennk2  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:02:45pm

re: #499 pingjockey

O.K. I get it. It would help make one's opinion appear to be shared by many. Not real brave or conifident in their position(s) then I would say.

509 swamprat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:02:52pm

re: #443 Killgore Trout

You have skills.
Work something out with a pawn shop. Trade a repair for an item...maybe a broken item that you can fix...
And please make sure that guitar is really worth more apart than together... You are competing with massed produced merchandise. You know the carriage trade. Make sure you know the street values too.
If inflation gets bad, goods are worth more than money.
When other tradesmen go broke, they may hock their materials, or worse, tools. Don't be that person. Be the opportunist who sees the unknown and realizes the value...and picks it up for pennies on the dollar.

Been there.

510 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:02:57pm

re: #463 funky chicken
Hi funky chicken - you're right about that; my Congresswoman Sue Myrick (R) replied to my e-mail about vets having to pay for their own health care by saying that she is hard core against it, as, she believes are all House Republicans, but the real surprise was her statement that there is "NO support for this in the House - even the Democrats are afraid of what just this proposal will do to them come election time.[emphasis realwest]

511 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:02:59pm

re: #501 rawmuse

They are pretty expensive. Ifshin is a good shop. I've never done business with then but they have a decent reputation.

512 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:03:36pm

re: #484 Iron Fist

I see what you are saying, I think. The way I've worked it out in my mind is that I want Obama to want what is right for the country. If he wants what is right for the country, then I want him to succeed.

However the truth is that Obama wants what is harmful for the country. Because he wants what is Harmful to the country, I wish to see him fail, but only in such a way that his failure produces what is good for the country.

In either case, it is not as simple as wishing him to succeed or fail. What I'm afraid we are going to get is an epic fail from Obama that is itself harmful to the country as well as Obama's ambitions. This seems to be the dominant probablity. The only thing worse would be for Obama to mean ill towards the Country (the jury is still very much out on that) and be successful in his intent.

I don't rule that posibillity out.

DING!

I think of both Bush's and Reagan. All three understood that they were men serving in an office. That the Office was much, much more than them as individuals. I don't believe Obama understands that, his arrogance and narcissism makes him believe he is the totality of the Presidency, not a temporary custodian of the Office and Country.

513 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:03:48pm

re: #508 brennk2

Yep. Sock puppets seem to be the province of trolls and mobys, for the most part.

514 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:03:57pm

re: #505 Killgore Trout

Ifshin had a carbon fiber bass bow for $695. What do you think of the carbon fiber bows?

515 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:04:44pm

re: #500 Gus 802

Good to hear.

They know who elected them to office, they seem to listen.

Chris Dodd has about 54% of his constituants saying they absolutely won't vote for him in 2010, with a Republican challenger moving up quickly.

As long as the Rep. isn't like Spector or Snow, we'll be in better shape.

516 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:05:18pm

re: #473 Dustyvet
We're doing just fine, thanks for asking my friend. And I'm sorta glad that Tiger found his pearch in your home at last!

517 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:05:19pm
518 Gretchen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:05:32pm

re: #494 SanFranciscoZionist

Sadly, you ain't joking sister. Let's not ask them.

Now that I think of it doesn't Charlie Rangell have several rent controlled apartments in NYC he could let them live there. The Obama's Chicago house is vacant most of the time too, and I'm sure the Kennedy clan have a few spare homes around the globe.

519 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:05:42pm

Listening to Hannity out of the corner of my ear.

Phil Donahue is still an idiot! Tape at 10!

520 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:06:19pm

re: #430 avanti

Of course, the ID threads, but I'm talking about the more political topics. I have to believe that most blogs, be they left or right have regular posters that might be bit more extreme then the more moderate lurkers, and tend to try and shut down even civil discussion they disagree with.
At least this forum does not give the devil's advocates the boot.

Growing up in a military family, my father was a AF lifer, I don't understand your thought process at all. Even if my views were welcomed at KOS, I would rather spend my time with like minded friends.
What is your motivation?

It's like having a Jehovah's Witness showing up at your doorstep on a daily basis...I'll never agree with the message.

521 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:06:22pm

Lost is on. Gotta scoot.
/Namaste, y'all

522 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:06:43pm

re: #480 pingjockey
Hey ping! How are ya? Which banee was it that had SIX sockpuppets?

523 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:07:10pm

Donahue is, in fact, a caricature of everything I like to fling boogers at.
Un-f***ing-believable.
Just... wow.

524 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:07:15pm

re: #515 republic

They know who elected them to office, they seem to listen.

Chris Dodd has about 54% of his constituants saying they absolutely won't vote for him in 2010, with a Republican challenger moving up quickly.

As long as the Rep. isn't like Spector or Snow, we'll be in better shape.

54% is a good number. Chris Dodd has to go: if not to prison at least away from congress. I mentioned last week that it's looking good for Republican Christie against incumbent governor of New Jersey Corzine.

525 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:07:52pm

re: #517 Iron Fist

That is wonderful news. Just that fact makes things marginaly better. It reduces the likelyhood of us fighting a second round of Civil War in the near-term future.


The NRA website has several pieces of very good news today.

526 psyop  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:07:59pm

re: #411 Dustyvet

When we arrived in Qatar after 11 months of a combat deployment in the mean streets of Mosul, the USAF in charge of transitioning soldiers forced us to turn in our weapons. Because it was completely safe in Qatar. We didn't like it (after spending nearly a year, awake or asleep, in constant physical contact with it), we understood.

There was no danger in Qatar. We were completely safe where we were.

That being said, everyone that was stationed there (and only there) still got combat pay and a combat patch. There were people who weren't even issued a weapon when deployed who got combat pay. Unbelievable.

527 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:08:10pm

re: #515 republic

I'd like to see him, Frank, Pelosi, and about 500 or so other people prosecuted under RICO. They're nothing but one big organized crime outfit.

528 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:08:11pm

re: #482 JCM

Watch out for the Ringwraiths.

OK, so Pelosi, Emmanuel, and Murtha are three of The Nine. Who do you think the other six are?

529 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:08:18pm

re: #521 Killgore Trout

Lost is on. Gotta scoot.
/Namaste, y'all

Goin on the tivo, don't spoil it for me.

530 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:08:56pm

re: #483 Gus 802
Hey Gus 802 - please see my #510 - not contradicting your idea of a misdirection ploy, but worth hearing.

531 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:08:56pm

re: #524 Gus 802

So why isn't Franks up on charges for pimping Fannie Mae 3 months before it swirled down the toilet?

532 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:09:55pm

re: #528 Dark_Falcon

OK, so Pelosi, Emmanuel, and Murtha are three of The Nine. Who do you think the other six are?

Ted Kennedy is the Moria cave troll.

533 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:10:01pm

re: #524 Gus 802

54% is a good number. Chris Dodd has to go: if not to prison at least away from congress. I mentioned last week that it's looking good for Republican Christie against incumbent governor of New Jersey Corzine.

Corzine has been a joke.

We'll see how much corruption that over $ 5 billion of scamulous money can buy for ACORN in those races.

534 Sheepdogess  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:10:26pm

Phil Donahue is prattling on the Hannity show. He's he's kinda like an Extenze commercial (((cringe))).

535 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:10:35pm

re: #528 Dark_Falcon

OK, so Pelosi, Emmanuel, and Murtha are three of The Nine. Who do you think the other six are?

Snowe, Spectre, McCain...
Oh. Do they have to be from the House?

536 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:10:40pm

re: #516 realwest

We're doing just fine, thanks for asking my friend. And I'm sorta glad that Tiger found his pearch in your home at last!

Just as long as he don't start tossing light bulbs...:)

537 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:10:43pm

re: #522 realwest

Howdy back! Joe sixpack had 6 puppets. And the phantom down dingers are over there too.

538 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:10:45pm

re: #506 republic

Amen, sister.

I'm not a Mormon. I'm looking for an acapella version of this song.

539 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:10:49pm

re: #527 Killer Tomato

I'd like to see him, Frank, Pelosi, and about 500 or so other people prosecuted under RICO. They're nothing but one big organized crime outfit.

Nearly all in Washington D.C.

540 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:10:50pm

re: #523 Van Helsing

Donahue is, in fact, a caricature of everything I like to fling boogers at.
Un-f***ing-believable.
Just... wow.

Shouldn't the "Two Irish Guys Arguing" segment have been on yesterday? :D

541 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:10:54pm

Anyone catch Mark Levin this evening? On fire.

542 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:11:15pm

re: #487 realwest

Hey KS - from your link: "The source made these remarks in an exclusive interview with Douglas J. Hagmann, the director of the Northeast Intelligence Network,"
respectfully, I woulnd't put it past Obama to abandon Israel, but the Norteast Intellignece Network is somewhat less reliable than Debka.

Thanks. I will take it with the appropriate amount of kosher salt.
The 0 administration has certainly been acting like he's going to abandon Israel, though.

543 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:11:24pm

re: #522 realwest

Hey ping! How are ya? Which banee was it that had SIX sockpuppets?


Six sockpuppets? Sounds like a shark with a bunch of remoras attached.

544 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:11:28pm

re: #523 Van Helsing

Donahue is, in fact, a caricature of everything I like to fling boogers at.
Un-f***ing-believable.
Just... wow.

His mind continues to ferment.

545 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:11:37pm

re: #530 realwest

Hey Gus 802 - please see my #510 - not contradicting your idea of a misdirection ploy, but worth hearing.

OK, I'm a cynic so perhaps I overstated my case. The reality for any politician is that if they attach themselves to unpopular policy they don't win elections. It will be good if this build momentum over the course of Obama's term.

546 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:11:47pm

re: #534 Sheepdogess

Phil Donahue is prattling on the Hannity show. He's he's kinda like an Extenze commercial (((cringe))).

Now I remember why I don't watch Hannity anymore :-)

547 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:12:33pm
548 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:12:42pm

Ga'night folks!

549 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:12:55pm

re: #528 Dark_Falcon

OK, so Pelosi, Emmanuel, and Murtha are three of The Nine. Who do you think the other six are?


When I think of Pelosi, I think 'Shelob'.

550 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:12:56pm

re: #531 Van Helsing

So why isn't Franks up on charges for pimping Fannie Mae 3 months before it swirled down the toilet?

You would have to ask a lawyer. I imagine something like that would require a Grand Jury at first and investigations. All of which would be within a highly political atmosphere.

551 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:13:05pm

re: #514 rawmuse

Short answer: I'm not a player, only a luthier but I'd probably stay away from the carbon fiber stuff. It's overpriced from what it is. Seriously, it's no more than $20 worth of materials. I would guess that it might be better to struggle with a quirky wood bow than a carbon fiber one. The feel and reaction is completely different. Ask other players for a more informed opinion.
/I'm out.

552 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:13:15pm

re: #535 Van Helsing

Snowe, Spectre, McCain...
Oh. Do they have to be from the House?

Specter I can see. Not the other two, though.

re: #532 Bloodnok

Ted Kennedy is the Moria cave troll.

No, avanti is the cave troll.

553 Smorgasbord  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:13:27pm

It wouldn't surprise me if he wants the former detainees to be the first members of his "Civilian Police Force" he promised he was going to create. They are already trained to obey THEIR KING. Obama would be their NEW KING.

554 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:13:34pm

re: #538 MandyManners

I'm not a Mormon. I'm looking for an acapella version of this song.

I'm not a Mormon either, Mandy.

My favorite song is, "Praise the Lord and pass the ammuntion", which was sung often during WWII.

555 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:13:43pm

I've no great respect for Hannity but he doesn't even have to help to show that Donahue has serious reality issues.

556 Pietr  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:13:54pm

re: #404 JCM

re: #484 Iron Fist

re: #512 JCM

I agree-and have something to add to that-don't know if anyone already posted this:

BO Admin disarming pilots

557 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:14:05pm

re: #533 republic

Corzine has been a joke.

We'll see how much corruption that over $ 5 billion of scamulous money can buy for ACORN in those races.

What was the deal with his ex-girlfriend? Or ex-wife? Some strange personal stuff surrounding Corzine as well.

558 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:14:33pm

re: #549 VioletTiger

When I think of Pelosi, I think 'Shelob'.

One-gamillion up-dings!

559 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:14:39pm

re: #547 ploome hineni

its his pension and benefits

I don;t want him to get one penny


I'd be satisfied with him being voted out of office.

560 azcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:14:45pm

re: #485 SanFranciscoZionist

I was more taken aback because I tend to take pride in not being a "crazed psycho!":)

561 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:15:13pm

re: #520 jorline

Growing up in a military family, my father was a AF lifer, I don't understand your thought process at all. Even if my views were welcomed at KOS, I would rather spend my time with like minded friends.
What is your motivation?

It's like having a Jehovah's Witness showing up at your doorstep on a daily basis...I'll never agree with the message.

I bought the whole, there is no left or right America pitch, just the United States of America. I actually believe that left, or right, GOP or not, you love your country and would hope at some point to find areas of agreement. I am certainly less hopeful then I was in Nov when i first joined LGF.

562 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:15:34pm

re: #552 Dark_Falcon

OUCH!
Murtha, Schumer, Waxman, McDermott, damn I need two more.

563 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:16:02pm

re: #562 pingjockey

Degette

564 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:16:44pm

re: #528 Dark_Falcon

OK, so Pelosi, Emmanuel, and Murtha are three of The Nine. Who do you think the other six are?

Pelosi
Murtha
Emmanuel

Obama
Reid
Byrd
Boxer
Dodd
Feinstein

565 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:17:03pm

re: #561 avanti

I bought the whole, there is no left or right America pitch, just the United States of America. I actually believe that left, or right, GOP or not, you love your country and would hope at some point to find areas of agreement. I am certainly less hopeful then I was in Nov when i first joined LGF.

MMMkay.

" In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden. The solutions we seek must be equitable, with no one group singled out to pay a higher price."

[Link: www.reaganlibrary.com...]

566 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:17:21pm

re: #556 Pietr

re: #484 Iron Fist

re: #512 JCM

I agree-and have something to add to that-don't know if anyone already posted this:

BO Admin disarming pilots

Can't have the pilot hijacking the plane now can we.......

567 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:18:08pm

re: #561 avanti

I love my country, for that reason I will oppose this admins socialist policies with every fiber. I do not want "the last, best hope for man" turned into a EU socialist state.

568 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:18:16pm

re: #537 pingjockey I will NEVER understand why anyone has a sockpuppet. Never. I mean, what's the damn point of it all?
Y'all say what you want to say out here and folks either agree or not; throwing out ideas by a sockpuppet or using sock's to upding yourself is just plain stupid.
LGF is not and has never been junior high school, ya know?

569 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:18:16pm

re: #562 pingjockey

OUCH!
Murtha, Schumer, Waxman, McDermott, damn I need two more.

We've got: Pelosi, Murtha, Emannuel, Spector, Waxman, and McDermott. We need three more. Kennedy could be number seven. Since Soros is Sauron, Obama must be the Lord of the Nazgul. That leaves us needing to find on more Wraith.

570 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:18:38pm

re: #566 JCM

Can't have the pilot hijacking the plane now can we.......

I wonder what the pilots' union think about that.

571 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:18:57pm

re: #552 Dark_Falcon

Snowe voted for that absurd 'stimulus' package and McCain (I'm in Arizona) did a fine job of pissing away any respect I had for him during the 'comprehensive (it's NOT amnesty) immigration reform'.

He might still be able to redeem himself (to me, for what ever it is worth) if he can continue to stand up to the insanity flowing out of the White House.

Yes, I voted for him to be POTUS.
No, I don't like his 'bi-partisan maverick-ism'.

Who was the third R that voted for the pork bill?

572 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:19:01pm

re: #563 Gus 802

Pardon, who/what? is Degette?

573 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:19:17pm
574 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:19:39pm

re: #566 JCM

Can't have the pilot hijacking the plane now can we.......


Obama comes from Chicago politics, where he believes that a person should be prosecuted for protecting themselves.

He is quoted as saying that any homeowner who uses a firearm to defend oneself in their own home, should be prosecuted.

575 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:20:00pm

re: #572 pingjockey

Pardon, who/what? is Degette?

Oh, she's a liberal congress(woman) from Colorado. Denver area to be exact. Uncontested lifer. US Congress

576 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:20:12pm

re: #568 realwest

Yep. It seems our trolls/mobys aren't content with just one nic to post.

577 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:20:24pm
578 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:20:33pm

re: #571 Van Helsing

Collins. The other one from Maine.

579 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:20:40pm

re: #571 Van Helsing

Snowe voted for that absurd 'stimulus' package and McCain (I'm in Arizona) did a fine job of pissing away any respect I had for him during the 'comprehensive (it's NOT amnesty) immigration reform'.

He might still be able to redeem himself (to me, for what ever it is worth) if he can continue to stand up to the insanity flowing out of the White House.

Yes, I voted for him to be POTUS.
No, I don't like his 'bi-partisan maverick-ism'.

Who was the third R that voted for the pork bill?

Susan Collins, also of Maine. She tends to talk in a voice so syrupy-sweet it makes me feel like my blood is crystallizing.

580 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:20:54pm

re: #542 Kosh's Shadow
"The 0 administration has certainly been acting like he's going to abandon Israel, though." I agree with you, though of course he's cunning enough to try to make it look like Israel's fault.
Please notice I said cunning. Unlike other folks, I do not consider Obama to be particularly smart. A three card monte dealer type cunning politcal crook from Chicago - that's about it.

581 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:21:11pm

re: #561 avanti

I bought the whole, there is no left or right America pitch, just the United States of America. I actually believe that left, or right, GOP or not, you love your country and would hope at some point to find areas of agreement. I am certainly less hopeful then I was in Nov when i first joined LGF.

The Nation was founded on a few simple principals.

Life
Liberty
Pursuit of Happiness

That Rights are intrinsic to the individual.

The left today may give lip service to those words but their actions place restrictions on individual rights.

What proposal in the last 2 years of a Democratic controlled congress, and the last 2 months of a Democrat President have expanded, or further strengthened individual rights?

582 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:21:38pm

re: #543 VioletTiger
LOL! Yeah it does, doesn't it?! How are you tonight?

583 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:21:43pm

Time magazine: Treasury knew about AIG bonuses 10 days sooner than thought

584 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:21:54pm

re: #577 Iron Fist

That arrogance is part of what makes him dangerous. You can picture him like Mussolini was shortly before his death, a captive of his putative ally, his nation in ruins, and him still strutting around like the cock of the fucking walk. He didn't make any mistakes. He doesn't make mistakes.

And so forth and so on, until in his mind it is just that the nation die, because it has failed him so (that last is more Hitlerian in flavor).

It is far worse than simply a little man in a big office. It's a little man with delusions of grandeur in the most important office in the world, arguably the most important office in the world ever. We can try to hope that he will grow in office, but his core dysfunction, narcissism, would tend to make that unlikely.

I have very little hope that much good is going to come of the Obama Administration. I really see the next four years emphasizing the "conserve" part of conservatism, as we try and prevent the worst excesses from bringing it all down.

"I have very little hope that much good is going to come of the Obama Administration."

Man you are way more freaking optimistic than I am. I sure hope you are right.

585 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:21:58pm

re: #567 pingjockey

I love my country, for that reason I will oppose this admins socialist policies with every fiber. I do not want "the last, best hope for man" turned into a EU socialist state.

Nor do I. There is no question we started down that road with TARP 1, the question is, once the economy recovers, will we back away ?

586 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:22:04pm

re: #575 Gus 802

Thanks!
McDermott is the resident loon from over by Seattle.

587 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:22:31pm

re: #561 avanti

I bought the whole, there is no left or right America pitch, just the United States of America. I actually believe that left, or right, GOP or not, you love your country and would hope at some point to find areas of agreement. I am certainly less hopeful then I was in Nov when i first joined LGF.

/dream on

588 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:23:05pm

re: #566 JCM

Can't have the pilot hijacking the plane now can we.......

Quietly trying to strangle that option of defense, aren't they> After all, it's common knowledge that commercial pilots are well known for irresponsibility and bad behavior.

I can think of, umm, 2 incidents in the last 30 years that involved aircrews behaving badly.

Can we hold congress to the same standard?

589 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:23:10pm

re: #569 Dark_Falcon

We've got: Pelosi, Murtha, Emannuel, Spector, Waxman, and McDermott. We need three more. Kennedy could be number seven. Since Soros is Sauron, Obama must be the Lord of the Nazgul. That leaves us needing to find on more Wraith.

Is there room for a Frank?

590 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:23:18pm

re: #574 republic

Obama comes from Chicago politics, where he believes that a person should be prosecuted for protecting themselves.

He is quoted as saying that any homeowner who uses a firearm to defend oneself in their own home, should be prosecuted.

My family comes from the west.
The tradition is we handled the problem, then told the authorities.

591 WindHorse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:23:21pm

re: #571 Van Helsing

the jerk from PA with the perm....

592 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:23:26pm

re: #581 JCM

The Nation was founded on a few simple principals.

Life
Liberty
Pursuit of Happiness

That Rights are intrinsic to the individual.

The left today may give lip service to those words but their actions place restrictions on individual rights.

What proposal in the last 2 years of a Democratic controlled congress, and the last 2 months of a Democrat President have expanded, or further strengthened individual rights?

Good point. avanti, the ball is in your court. I will not downding or mock you pending your answer, provided it is posted in a reasonable time period.

593 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:23:48pm

re: #585 avanti

With this admin? Are you delusional? This bunch wants to expand the federal gov't as far as they can.
Now folks, it's good night.

594 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:24:22pm

re: #582 realwest

LOL! Yeah it does, doesn't it?! How are you tonight?

Doing great, thanks. Took a vacation day and spent it shopping with my daughter. Had my sister and her family over for dinner, too.

595 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:24:26pm

re: #590 JCM

My family comes from the west.
The tradition is we handled the problem, then told the authorities.

;-p

596 swamprat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:24:29pm

re: #577 Iron Fist

Don't hold back; What do you REALLY think?

597 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:24:43pm
598 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:24:45pm

re: #589 VioletTiger

Is there room for a Frank?

Yes, he could serve as the eighth Wraith. And his Morgul Blade is in his pants.

599 WindHorse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:26:00pm
600 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:26:05pm

re: #598 Dark_Falcon

Yes, he could serve as the eighth Wraith. And his Morgul Blade is in his pants.

That's the second keyboard tonight!

ROFLMAO!

601 swamprat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:26:12pm

re: #590 JCM

My family comes from the west.
The tradition is we handled the problem, then told the authorities.

Mostly urban west, then?

;-)

602 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:26:37pm

re: #597 Iron Fist

Thanks. RKBA is the absolute front line defense that we have against tyranny. It is even more the canary in the coal mine than Israel in that I could see a president/Congress being more willing to overstep on gun control than really sitting back and letting Israel getting destroyed. Clinton is, of course, the best example of it.


You are more than welcome Iron Fist.

603 WindHorse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:26:40pm
604 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:27:02pm

re: #581 JCM

The Nation was founded on a few simple principals.

Life
Liberty
Pursuit of Happiness

That Rights are intrinsic to the individual.

The left today may give lip service to those words but their actions place restrictions on individual rights.

What proposal in the last 2 years of a Democratic controlled congress, and the last 2 months of a Democrat President have expanded, or further strengthened individual rights?

Oohh! Oohh! Pick me! Pick me!

Uh, none?
And I believe we can take it back a decade or two.
the federal government has usurped so much power that it would be an abomination to the good honest gentlemen that wrote the Constitution.

605 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:27:11pm

re: #545 Gus 802 Right now I'm just looking for some big cracks in the Dem facade - and a weakening of the MSM support for them would be a big start. Can't remember what it was - think it had something to do with Geithner ("I'm putting my resume together as we speak") knowing that AIG had planned on those bonuses a LONG time ago, but ABC NEWS reported on it. Just a little chink in the armor, but a few more and maybe we'll get our chance to state our case: smaller -not bigger - government; government that understands that it's FIRST and only real reason for being is to protect it's citizens from danger; that everyone has some personal value, but you can't GIVE someone self-esteem and if you're not gonna be honest with us, we aren't going to support you. For starters.

606 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:27:42pm
607 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:27:48pm

Dodd is really exposed on the AIG bonuses.

Dodd: Administration sought bonus limit revision
By JIM KUHNHENN, AP
3 hours ago

WASHINGTON — For a while, the disappearance of an executive bonus restriction from last month's economic stimulus looked like sleight of hand worthy of a Las Vegas stage. No one could explain how the provision faded into thin air. On Wednesday, Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., acknowledged that his staff agreed to dilute the executive pay provision that would have applied retroactively to recipients of federal aid.

Dodd, the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, told CNN that the request came from Obama administration officials whom he did not identify.

The provision was the subject of new attention this week because, had it survived, it would have prevented the American International Group Inc. from granting $165 million in bonuses to employees of its financial products division.

While the House and Senate reconciled their different stimulus bills last month, the Treasury Department expressed concern with a Senate restriction on bonuses, noting that if it applied to existing compensation contracts it could face a legal challenge.

"The alternative was losing, in my view, the entire section on executive excessive compensation," Dodd told CNN. "Given a choice, this is not an uncommon occurrence here, I agreed to a modification in the legislation, reluctantly."

[Link: www.comcast.net...]
general/20090319/AIG.Bonus.Congress/

609 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:29:00pm

re: #561 avanti

I bought the whole, there is no left or right America pitch, just the United States of America. I actually believe that left, or right, GOP or not, you love your country and would hope at some point to find areas of agreement. I am certainly less hopeful then I was in Nov when i first joined LGF.

I believe in the America you fought to defend, avanti. Not the bullshit I see coming out of every branch of this administration. Our future is not on a teleprompter, Biden is a buffoon, Reid's a dip shit, Holder is divisive and Pelosi is bat shit crazy.

Pelosi Tells Illegal
Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

These thoughts are not a hiccup...they're now a daily occurrence.

Your grandchildren and my children will not have the same opportunities you and I had.

610 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:29:04pm

re: #552 Dark_Falcon Hey my friend, I agree with you about McCain, but not about Snowe (RINO, Maine) and you can add Collins (RINO, Maine) to that list too.

611 WindHorse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:29:33pm

it looks like my link didn't work.... oh well.... (Snowe, Collins - both from Maine.... and Arlen Specter from PA)

612 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:29:48pm

re: #601 swamprat

Mostly urban west, then?

;-)

LOL!

613 republic  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:30:08pm

Good night all.

614 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:30:35pm

re: #605 realwest

The only recent thing I remember is the VA/insurance debacle that was being considered by the White House. John Stewart actually made mention of it but did not mention the White House. There was something else to as you mentioned but I can't remember.

615 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:30:52pm

re: #604 Van Helsing

Oohh! Oohh! Pick me! Pick me!

Uh, none?
And I believe we can take it back a decade or two.
the federal government has usurped so much power that it would be an abomination to the good honest gentlemen that wrote the Constitution.

The precipitous change started with FDR.

616 Gretchen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:30:52pm

re: #607 VioletTiger
OMG! Are you implying Senator Dodd is a liar? This must be Bush's fault.

617 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:31:03pm

re: #609 jorline

I believe in the America you fought to defend, avanti. Not the bullshit I see coming out of every branch of this administration. Our future is not on a teleprompter, Biden is a buffoon, Reid's a dip shit, Holder is divisive and Pelosi is bat shit crazy.

Pelosi Tells Illegal
Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

These thoughts are not a hiccup...they're now a daily occurrence.

Your grandchildren and my children will not have the same opportunities you and I had.

After all, the Rule of Law is a completely un-American un-Constitutional creation.

618 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:31:09pm

Ice cream break.

619 Boxy_brown  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:31:15pm

re: #561 avanti

I actually believe that left, or right, GOP or not, you love your country and would hope at some point to find areas of agreement. I

If you believe that Obama loves the United States you can probably be sold just about anything. Such naivete is truly incredible at this point.

620 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:31:45pm

re: #608 Harry Tuttle

Mmm small wonder As he empathized with recession-weary Americans, President Obama arranged in the days just before he took office to secure a $500,000 advance for a children's book project, a disclosure report shows.

More and more I become less disillusioned with the Obama than I do with the drones who voted for the fucking guy.

621 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:32:08pm

re: #580 realwest

"The 0 administration has certainly been acting like he's going to abandon Israel, though." I agree with you, though of course he's cunning enough to try to make it look like Israel's fault.
Please notice I said cunning. Unlike other folks, I do not consider Obama to be particularly smart. A three card monte dealer type cunning politcal crook from Chicago - that's about it.

You got it, Real. Street smart is what he is and it has served him well. I only wish I knew how this is going to end up. I haven't imagined a scenario yet that ends well and both Israel and the US are sure to suffer as I see it.

622 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:32:16pm
623 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:32:31pm

re: #617 Van Helsing

After all, the Rule of Law is a completely un-American un-Constitutional creation.

Laws? We don't need no stinking laws.
//

624 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:32:48pm

re: #615 JCM

The precipitous change started with FDR.

Cranky old fart that I am, I'd push it back to the point when the income tax started.

Hey, we can use this tax law thingie to do social engineering? Hmmmm.... what could go wrong?

625 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:32:53pm

re: #622 Iron Fist

Good night. I'm hopefully not far behind you.

I just got here.

626 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:33:07pm

re: #571 Van Helsing
Specter, Snowe and Collins were the three who voted for it; McCain was against it and spoke out publically against it. He's been much less "reach across the aisle" and RINO since the Presidential Election.

627 WindHorse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:33:15pm

re: #617 Van Helsing

a little offensive there..... Rule of Law....hmmmmpffff....

///

628 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:34:13pm

re: #626 realwest

Specter, Snowe and Collins were the three who voted for it; McCain was against it and spoke out publically against it. He's been much less "reach across the aisle" and RINO since the Presidential Election.

A little of that say 8 months ago wouldn't have hurt.

629 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:34:16pm

re: #576 pingjockey
Then they must be terribly insecure cowards.

630 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:34:20pm

re: #592 Dark_Falcon

Good point. avanti, the ball is in your court. I will not downding or mock you pending your answer, provided it is posted in a reasonable time period.

Lets see, the only human rights thing that comes to mine is outlawing torture and killing some of GW over reaching decisions like stem cell research, and the Mexico city agreement in the first 50 days.
I like the expansion of children health care, the increases in the defense and VA budgets too, but it's early. As to the Democrats in Congress, they are part of the problem for BHO.

631 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:34:29pm

Hillary Clinton is a Wraith!

632 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:34:57pm

re: #624 Van Helsing

Cranky old fart that I am, I'd push it back to the point when the income tax started.

Hey, we can use this tax law thingie to do social engineering? Hmmmm.... what could go wrong?

I can agree with that, FDR started the toboggan ride, before that it was more gradual.

633 WindHorse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:35:15pm

....a mine is a terrible thing to waist....

634 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:35:17pm

re: #616 Gretchen

OMG! Are you implying Senator Dodd is a liar? This must be Bush's fault.

He's a liar all right. I am hoping this buries him for the next election.

635 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:35:21pm

re: #631 Sharmuta

Hillary Clinton is a Wraith!

What?

636 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:35:57pm

re: #620 Harry Tuttle

More and more I become less disillusioned with the Obama than I do with the drones who voted for the fucking guy.

A politician using current difficult problems to mask questionable behavior?
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

They're doing the same thing with the AIG bonuses.
It's bread and circuses.
Without the bread.
The circus ain't so hot, either.

637 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:36:02pm

re: #577 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - the word you're looking for is Narcissistic.
Y'all could look it up, but it basically is a personality disorder that leads one to believe that they can never be wrong about anything - or at least anything of substance.

638 Gretchen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:36:54pm

re: #631 Sharmuta

Hillary Clinton is a Wraith!


Maybe but I'd rather have her as POTUS than 0.

We live in strange times.

639 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:37:10pm

re: #583 Dustyvet Woot! That's Time and ABC (who said Geithner first knew about it over a month ago).

640 WindHorse  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:37:28pm
641 BlueCanuck  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:37:40pm

re: #630 avanti

Lets see, the only human rights thing that comes to mine is outlawing torture and killing some of GW over reaching decisions like stem cell research, and the Mexico city agreement in the first 50 days.
I like the expansion of children health care, the increases in the defense and VA budgets too, but it's early. As to the Democrats in Congress, they are part of the problem for BHO.

So I take it you missed the article about how that executive decision Nobama signed was made moot by a bill that passed several days later? Give me a little bit and I will find the link.

642 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:38:06pm

re: #617 Van Helsing

After all, the Rule of Law is a completely un-American un-Constitutional creation.

Pelosi is a moon bat.

643 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:38:12pm

re: #630 avanti

Lets see, the only human rights thing that comes to mine is outlawing torture and killing some of GW over reaching decisions like stem cell research, and the Mexico city agreement in the first 50 days.
I like the expansion of children health care, the increases in the defense and VA budgets too, but it's early. As to the Democrats in Congress, they are part of the problem for BHO.

Human rights are collective. Socialist in nature.
Individual right are just that, individual.

When government is restrained from infringing on individual rights, there is no need for human rights.

644 swamprat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:38:19pm

re: #631 Sharmuta

?
of skin
a wraith of space
of my time?
?

645 Boxy_brown  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:38:21pm

re: #637 realwest

Hey Bro' - the word you're looking for is Narcissistic.
Y'all could look it up, but it basically is a personality disorder that leads one to believe that they can never be wrong about anything - or at least anything of substance.

It means that he firmly believes that he is the center of the universe and that everything revolves around him. Indeed, he is a malignant narcissist, which is worse and more dangerous.

646 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:38:41pm

re: #635 Walter L. Newton

What?

Soros is Sauron.

Who are the Ringwraiths?

647 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:38:48pm

re: #642 avanti

Pelosi is a moon bat.

You wouldn't know a moon bat if one bit you on the nose.

648 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:38:59pm

re: #594 VioletTiger

Doing great, thanks. Took a vacation day and spent it shopping with my daughter. Had my sister and her family over for dinner, too.

Sounds like great fun! We all could use that now and again!

649 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:39:03pm
650 Boxy_brown  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:39:31pm

re: #642 avanti

Pelosi is a moon bat.

Working your side of the street is she?

651 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:39:46pm

re: #642 avanti

Pelosi is a moon bat.

Finally, you say something I can completely agree with. Upding.

652 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:39:47pm

re: #647 Walter L. Newton

You wouldn't know a moon bat if one bit you on the nose.

ROFLMAO...:)

653 BlueCanuck  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:40:15pm

re: #641 BlueCanuck

And here's one link of what I was talking about. The Zero™ is busted once again as an empty suit.

/should have spent more time on Capitol Hill rather then campaigning....

654 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:40:49pm

re: #630 avanti

As to the Democrats in Congress, they are part of the problem for BHO.


You can not possibly be serious.

655 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:40:50pm

re: #626 realwest

Like I said, realwest, I live in Arizona. His take on so many local problems here in border state flyover country, well, he could have been named Kennedy for all the difference in policy.

I also said he can still earn back our respect if he'll hold the course against this insane spending policy coming out of the White House.

Remember - the prez only proposes and approves, congress is supposed to come up with the details,

Not slamming you, I just have a more local view of the senator.

656 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:41:10pm

re: #650 Boxy_brown

Working your side of the street is she?

Nah, he works both sides of the street and the alley.


/S

657 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:41:14pm

re: #649 Iron Fist

That's the way they've been playing it since Slick Willy go his willy played with. Those law thingies, they only apply to the little people. Sexual harassment, I was just dusting her assault you say? Fear not, only sex was involved in the assault. So he smacked the bitch around a little, it wasn't really rape. OK, yeah, it was really rape, but he's a popular President. He is above the law.

And now we have God Emperor Obama. At least we don't have to wory about Obama banging his daughter's playmates that she brings home to the White House. That's something.

Sorry thing is that if that was his priorities we would be better off.

658 lostlakehiker  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:41:29pm

re: #153 Irenike

Same old, same old.

For decades, liberals have been releasing criminals back into society. The liberals who make these decisions never bear the consequences of their decision. Somebody else, some other poor innocent sap, pays the price when the criminal decides to do his monstrous deeds. The liberals sit around and pat themselves on the back, and marvel at how compassionate they are, and how much better they are than the evil conservatives who want to actually make the bad guys pay for their crimes. Again and again, they ignore the results of their actions. They congratulate themselves for their intentions.

With enough experience at this, they have to be deemed to know the real-world consequences. Their intentions are that those consequences should follow. They want to make us pay for wanting to live.

659 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:41:30pm

Well this has been a craptastic week and it's only Wednesday.
We're practically held hostage while our elected officials do their utmost to destroy the greatest form of government ever seen on the face of this planet - it's like watching a bunch of spoiled brat children gleefully wreck a priceless present.
Every time the news comes on the radio I think "what fresh hell is this?"

660 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:41:35pm

re: #606 Iron Fist
One of my all time Fav's - thank you for that song.

661 mfarmer1  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:41:37pm

This should be interesting to watch:

North Korea Arrests Two American Reporters

662 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:41:43pm

re: #630 avanti

...As to the Democrats in Congress, they are part of the problem for BHO.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by this (this should be good).

663 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:43:02pm

Hey, Erik the Red, guess what happened on LOST tonight? (smirk)

664 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:43:08pm

re: #662 Walter L. Newton

Can you elaborate on what you mean by this (this should be good).

I think you'll get a better response from Maisey..

665 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:43:33pm

re: #649 Iron Fist

Or as the ad for Nixon/Frost said, "It's not illegal if the President does it!".

666 Gretchen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:43:38pm

re: #649 Iron Fist

That's the way they've been playing it since Slick Willy go his willy played with. Those law thingies, they only apply to the little people. Sexual harassment, I was just dusting her assault you say? Fear not, only sex was involved in the assault. So he smacked the bitch around a little, it wasn't really rape. OK, yeah, it was really rape, but he's a popular President. He is above the law.

And now we have God Emperor Obama. At least we don't have to wory about Obama banging his daughter's playmates that she brings home to the White House. That's something.

Obama is a collectivist - he's banging all of us.

667 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:43:39pm

re: #646 JCM

Soros is Sauron.

Who are the Ringwraiths?

Obama is the Lord of the Nazgul.

Other likely Wraiths:

Frank
Pelosi
Schumer
Hillary (her cackle could do for a Wraith scream)
Murtha

668 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:44:04pm

re: #614 Gus 802
Y'all mean besides ABC ratting out Geithner re: the AIG bonuses?

669 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:44:14pm

re: #659 Killer Tomato

Well this has been a craptastic week and it's only Wednesday.
We're practically held hostage while our elected officials do their utmost to destroy the greatest form of government ever seen on the face of this planet - it's like watching a bunch of spoiled brat children gleefully wreck a priceless present.
Every time the news comes on the radio I think "what fresh hell is this?"

My son led the flag ceremony at Pack meeting tonight. He's seven. If only for right now, I'm on a little buzz.

There are some good things in the world. We just have to keep Mr. Delusions of Adequacy from wrecking them.

670 solomonpanting  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:44:14pm

Having Barney Frank serve as chairman of the House Financial Services Committee is akin to Jeffrey Dalmer serving as chairman of Vegetarians of America.

671 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:44:15pm

re: #661 mfarmer1

This should be interesting to watch:

North Korea Arrests Two American Reporters

That's only 10-15 minutes old.
Yeah it will be one to watch.

672 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:44:17pm

re: #630 avanti

You like the idea of expanding "childrens" health care?" You think it's right to have smoker foot the bill for some, for example, single mother that makes 80,000 dollars a year and using that "free" health care for some 24 year old "child" living with her at home? I have to help foot that bill?

673 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:44:57pm

re: #661 mfarmer1

This should be interesting to watch:

North Korea Arrests Two American Reporters

Clenched fists, everywhere.

674 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:44:58pm

re: #668 realwest

Y'all mean besides ABC ratting out Geithner re: the AIG bonuses?

That's probably it.

675 Boxy_brown  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:45:09pm

re: #670 solomonpanting

Having Barney Frank serve as chairman of the House Financial Services Committee is akin to Jeffrey Dalmer serving as chairman of Vegetarians of America.

I'm gong to steal that one.

676 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:45:13pm

re: #669 EmmmieG

My son led the flag ceremony at Pack meeting tonight. He's seven. If only for right now, I'm on a little buzz.

There are some good things in the world. We just have to keep Mr. Delusions of Adequacy from wrecking them.

Most excellent and congratulations. Scouting is generally a Very Good Thing.

677 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:45:45pm

re: #641 BlueCanuck

So I take it you missed the article about how that executive decision Nobama signed was made moot by a bill that passed several days later? Give me a little bit and I will find the link.

Don't bother, I know about the stem cell ban in the one bill and it's the reason for the new bill to override it. BHO lifts the ban, the Dems make a trade with the GOP to get a bill passed with the anti stem cell ban rider attached, knowing a new bill is coming to make it moot. Aren't politicians fun ?

bill..

678 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:46:19pm

re: #628 Harry Tuttle

A Lot little of that say 8 months ago wouldn't have hurt.


TFTFY!

679 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:46:42pm

re: #669 EmmmieG

My son led the flag ceremony at Pack meeting tonight. He's seven. If only for right now, I'm on a little buzz.

There are some good things in the world. We just have to keep Mr. Delusions of Adequacy from wrecking them.

Awesome!

680 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:47:29pm

re: #669 EmmmieG

My son led the flag ceremony at Pack meeting tonight. He's seven. If only for right now, I'm on a little buzz.

There are some good things in the world. We just have to keep Mr. Delusions of Adequacy from wrecking them.

My little guy is a Wolf.....what's yours?

681 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:48:03pm

re: #678 realwest

TFTFY!

Thats a 5 letter TLA I am not familiar with but I believe I take your point :-)

682 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:48:05pm

re: #677 avanti

... Aren't politicians fun ?

Not as much fun as you... Popeye!

683 solomonpanting  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:48:14pm

re: #675 Boxy_brown

I'm gong to steal that one.

OK, but don't spend it all in one place.

684 mfarmer1  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:48:26pm

re: #671 JCM

That's only 10-15 minutes old.
Yeah it will be one to watch.

It seems like the DPRK is really trying to get our attention these days and we don't really give a damn. Oh no, they refused our free food a few days ago! Horrors! Launch your stupid 40 year old technology missile already and be done with it, we've got some more pressing issues here right now.

685 Dreader1962  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:48:38pm

re: #411 Dustyvet

I once sat in for my Platoon Sergeant on a briefing where one of these PowerPoint geniuses used the word 'synergy' about 40 times. At the end, he asked, "Are there any questions?" I was feeling particularly evil that day - I asked, "Yeah, what does synergy mean?" I knew what it meant - he didn't. Didn't stop him from using the damn word, though.

686 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:48:45pm

re: #651 Dark_Falcon

Finally, you say something I can completely agree with. Upding.

She is more likely to cause problems for BHO then all the Republicans put together.

687 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:49:15pm

re: #645 Boxy_brown
I sit corrected - or at least improved upon! Damn right.

688 stevieray  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:49:25pm

People who believe the constitution is "a living document" do not love this country.

People who believe that every facet of American life must be regulated by Washington do not trust or respect their fellow citizen, and therefore do not love this country.

People who instinctively trust the words of captured enemy fighters over the word of their own nation's soldier do not love this country.

People who believe there is nothing exceptional about the culture and character of America, and that anybody, from anywhere, can move here, keep their original belief systems (the systems that created the third-world hellhole they are fleeing), and that new fragmented society will somehow "improve" America do not love their country.

Shall I go on, Avanti? I can do this all night...

689 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:49:25pm

re: #671 JCM

That's only 10-15 minutes old.
Yeah it will be one to watch.

The story was worth a read. Sadly, I forgot where I was and click on a couple of other stories. Not too bad, but now I need to clean the BBC Moonbat guano off my feet.

690 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:49:40pm

re: #677 avanti

Don't bother, I know about the stem cell ban in the one bill and it's the reason for the new bill to override it. BHO lifts the ban, the Dems make a trade with the GOP to get a bill passed with the anti stem cell ban rider attached, knowing a new bill is coming to make it moot. Aren't politicians fun ?

bill..

"Aren't politicians fun ?"

"All politicians should serve two terms.

One in office, one in prison."

Mark Twain

691 Opilio  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:49:41pm

DSM-IV criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder: A pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

• has a grandiose sense of self-importance
• shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
• requires excessive admiration
• has a sense of entitlement
• is interpersonally exploitative
• believes that he or she is "special" and unique
• is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance
• lacks empathy
• envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her

The shoe seems to fit.

692 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:49:52pm

Looks like the Messiah was doing a little nest feathering before he took office. No wonder he does not seem to worried about the economy, he's already got his.

693 Racer X  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:50:13pm

re: #568 realwest

or using sock's to upding yourself

WHAT?!?

694 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:50:14pm

re: #680 Desert Dog

My little guy is a Wolf.....what's yours?

I have a Wolf, a Bear, and a Boy Scout. I also have one that hasn't started yet, but is raring to go.

695 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:50:34pm

re: #677 avanti

Don't bother, I know about the stem cell ban in the one bill and it's the reason for the new bill to override it. BHO lifts the ban, the Dems make a trade with the GOP to get a bill passed with the anti stem cell ban rider attached, knowing a new bill is coming to make it moot. Aren't politicians funcked ?

bill..


No charge. Just helping.

696 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:51:54pm

re: #694 EmmmieG

I have a Wolf, a Bear, and a Boy Scout. I also have one that hasn't started yet, but is raring to go.

That is great. My middle made it to Star Scout...never did the Eagle...too bad. His little brother is really into camping and outdoorsy stuff. We'll see if he makes it as far as his brother did.

697 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:52:38pm

re: #655 Van Helsing
I appreciate that you do, Van Helsing - just reporting the facts as I know 'em to have been over TARP - McCain did speak out against it and did vote against it.
But I believe in the American Form of government and am more than happy to let Arizonans make the call.

698 VioletTiger  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:52:53pm

re: #691 Opilio
This was greatly explored during the election. I think Kenneth posted a link this morning. It really does fit IMO.

699 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:52:55pm
700 Boxy_brown  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:53:05pm

re: #683 solomonpanting

OK, but don't spend it all in one place.

Ill be quite the water cooler raconteur with that one...

The more I think about it though, comparing Barney Frank with Jeffrey Dalmer becomes less and less of a stretch.

701 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:53:22pm

re: #696 Desert Dog

That is great. My middle made it to Star Scout...never did the Eagle...too bad. His little brother is really into camping and outdoorsy stuff. We'll see if he makes it as far as his brother did.

We're hoping ours take off. We have a long family tradition. My grandfather was an Eagle back in the 30's, and they don't go much farther back than that.

702 JCM  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:53:40pm

re: #684 mfarmer1

It seems like the DPRK is really trying to get our attention these days and we don't really give a damn. Oh no, they refused our free food a few days ago! Horrors! Launch your stupid 40 year old technology missile already and be done with it, we've got some more pressing issues here right now.

NorKo is scary.
It's not really predictable. There are internal power struggles we can only guess at. Kim is liable to do anything to retain power. If it collapses we have 25 million people with no food, and no means to support or govern themselves.

703 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:53:45pm

re: #672 Gus 802

You like the idea of expanding "childrens" health care?" You think it's right to have smoker foot the bill for some, for example, single mother that makes 80,000 dollars a year and using that "free" health care for some 24 year old "child" living with her at home? I have to help foot that bill?

There are a real limited number of single mothers making 80,000 a year. Is the 24-y'old going to be covered? At what point do the current programs cut off dependents? Kaiser cut me loose at 23, but that was coverage my mother paid for through her employer.

704 BlueCanuck  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:53:47pm

re: #677 avanti

Okay, from what I have read and heard regarding the stem cell ban. GWB ban was on new lines of stem cells being created. This forced government research scientests to look for other alternatives. Hence the expanding research into Adult stem cells. So it may look anti-science at first, but it has benefited everyone immensely.

705 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:54:16pm

re: #691 Opilio

DSM-IV criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder: A pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

• has a grandiose sense of self-importance
• shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
• requires excessive admiration
• has a sense of entitlement
• is interpersonally exploitative
• believes that he or she is "special" and unique
• is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance
• lacks empathy
• envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her

The shoe seems to fit.

Using these criterion, I'd say 100% of the Congress and the Executive Branch and 110% of Hollywood is suffering from this disorder. What is the treatment? Take away the mirrors?

706 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:54:18pm

re: #673 pink freud

Clenched fists, everywhere.

Good evening, pink.

Note to PBO.

It is better to have someone jerk you off with a loose hand than a clenched fist.

707 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:54:51pm
708 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:54:55pm

re: #684 mfarmer1

It seems like the DPRK is really trying to get our attention these days and we don't really give a damn. Oh no, they refused our free food a few days ago! Horrors! Launch your stupid 40 year old technology missile already and be done with it, we've got some more pressing issues here right now.

Problem being that if they can lob a couple of tons of ANYTHING into orbit and bring it down without it all ablating (not that hard) it's going to leave a mark where it hits.

Same goes for our friends the Iranians.

709 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:55:15pm

re: #688 stevieray

People who believe the constitution is "a living document" do not love this country.

Are you saying you believe the Constution is a dead document?

710 swamprat  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:55:38pm

re: #690 Harry Tuttle
"Should i write my congressman?"

Each congressman has two ends; a sitting and a thinking end.. and since each congressmans' position depends upon his "seat";

Why bother, friend?


quote from a forgotten folk singer...maybe Chad Mitchell Trio

711 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:56:16pm

re: #703 SanFranciscoZionist

There are a real limited number of single mothers making 80,000 a year. Is the 24-y'old going to be covered? At what point do the current programs cut off dependents? Kaiser cut me loose at 23, but that was coverage my mother paid for through her employer.

Yes, but there are a limited number of people like me in this country too. It can be a single father, mother, couple, etc, making that amount and having the same aged dependent in their household. I don't like the idea of using "special taxes" to help foot the bill for other peoples' problems. Otherwise, I think they should create a "special tax" for "my own personal needs" to be taken care of by the Nanny State.

712 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:56:34pm

re: #709 SanFranciscoZionist

Are you saying you believe the Constution is a dead document?

Not dead yet....but holding on for dear life in the ICU

713 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:57:05pm

re: #659 Killer Tomato
Hi there KT - I know what you mean, but I think we have at least a tentative victory on Vet's paying for their own healthcare - hell after we discussed it out here, Fox was all over it, Rush was all over it, Charles put up a thread about it and at least one congresscritter wrote to me to say that idea of Vets paying for their own health care is DEAD in the House.
And I've written to and received replies from her and Sen. Burr (R-NC) several times and they've been pretty straight shooters with me - Obama carried NC by a slim Margin, but Myrick won re-election by a large number.

714 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:57:26pm

re: #663 Walter L. Newton

Hey, Erik the Red, guess what happened on LOST tonight? (smirk)

Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.
The LGF spy never sleeps. I was going to lurk until yhe LNDT.

715 Tully  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:58:20pm

I warned about this possibility several years ago, and everyone scoffed.

They said I was questioning the left's patriotism.

716 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:58:36pm
717 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:58:48pm

re: #713 realwest

Hi there KT - I know what you mean, but I think we have at least a tentative victory on Vet's paying for their own healthcare - hell after we discussed it out here, Fox was all over it, Rush was all over it, Charles put up a thread about it and at least one congresscritter wrote to me to say that idea of Vets paying for their own health care is DEAD in the House.
And I've written to and received replies from her and Sen. Burr (R-NC) several times and they've been pretty straight shooters with me - Obama carried NC by a slim Margin, but Myrick won re-election by a large number.

That's part of the problem with Mr. Narcissism. I think he really truly could not understand that massive unpopularity of what he was thinking. It wasn't his point of view, therefore he could not conceive of it.

718 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:59:21pm

re: #715 Tully

I warned about this possibility several years ago, and everyone scoffed.

They said I was questioning the left's patriotism.

Greetings and Welcome Tully!

719 Pietr  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 9:59:42pm

re: #704 BlueCanuck

Okay, from what I have read and heard regarding the stem cell ban. GWB ban was on new lines of stem cells being created. This forced government research scientests to look for other alternatives. Hence the expanding research into Adult stem cells. So it may look anti-science at first, but it has benefited everyone immensely.

Not to mention, ebryonic stem cell research has produced ZERO-while Adult Stem Cell research has accomplished a few breakthroughs'. That is why BO trashed the fundung for it, and Embryonic research-while PRETENDING to fund it all......truly sad.

720 Boxy_brown  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:00:07pm

re: #705 Desert Dog

DSM-IV criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder: A pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

Check it out: Malignant Narcissist.

721 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:00:26pm

re: #661 mfarmer1
Thanks for that - I've reported it to Charles in the hope that more information will be forthcoming before he starts a new thread and maybe that new thread would be your comment!

722 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:00:45pm

re: #691 Opilio

DSM-IV criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder: A pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

• has a grandiose sense of self-importance
• shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
• requires excessive admiration
• has a sense of entitlement
• is interpersonally exploitative
• believes that he or she is "special" and unique
• is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance
• lacks empathy
• envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her

The shoe seems to fit.

And if he tilts his head slightly to on side he can see his reflection on the teleprompter.

723 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:01:17pm

Oh, cool, the NCIS episode with the Medal of Honor recipient who was on Okinawa and thinks he murdered someone is on.

724 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:01:43pm

re: #719 Pietr

Not to mention, ebryonic stem cell research has produced ZERO-while Adult Stem Cell research has accomplished a few breakthroughs'. That is why BO trashed the fundung for it, and Embryonic research-while PRETENDING to fund it all......truly sad.

duplicitous.
Lying weasel commie rat bastard that the 0ne is.

Oh, wait. Can he be a weasel and a rat at the same time? If not, which should he be?

725 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:02:01pm

re: #720 Boxy_brown

Check it out: Malignant Narcissist.

Add that trait with some POWER and you get our government today.

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
-Lord Acton

726 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:02:12pm

re: #681 Harry Tuttle
There, Fixed That For You!
:)

727 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:02:28pm

re: #688 stevieray

People who believe the constitution is "a living document" do not love this country.


People who believe that people with different political views don't love their country are flat wrong. It's a silly concept on it's face, neither the right, nor the left has a lock on love of country.

Shall I go on, Avanti? I can do this all night...

728 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:02:40pm

re: #723 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, cool, the NCIS episode with the Medal of Honor recipient who was on Okinawa and thinks he murdered someone is on.

Is that a rerun?

729 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:02:42pm
730 Boxy_brown  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:03:15pm

re: #725 Desert Dog

Add that trait with some POWER and you get our government today.

Add that trait with some power and you get Hitler, or Stalin. Not kidding even a little.

731 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:03:57pm

re: #724 Van Helsing

duplicitous.
Lying weasel commie rat bastard that the 0ne is.

Oh, wait. Can he be a weasel and a rat at the same time? If not, which should he be?

Some of his scientists took a break with the embyros and pulled a Dr. Moreau and created the weasel-rat hybrid.

732 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:04:12pm

re: #688 stevieray
GREAT DAMN POST, stevieray!

733 oc livin  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:04:49pm

And no news coverage. None on this.

Tons of coverage on Gitmo's torture
And that none of the imprisoned there are getting trials
And how that's just unfair and un-American

Get used the results of these policies, America. Never judge a decision by its intentions, look rather to its effects.

734 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:05:06pm

re: #730 Boxy_brown

You ever see those photographs of Hitler before one of his first infamous speeches? It was done by a professional photographer and he got all "dressed up" for the photo shoot.

735 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:05:22pm

re: #729 Iron Fist

"Everybody likes me! Wonderful, wonderful me!"

He won't even comprehend what he's done wrong, and thus not have a clue about how to fix it. Scary, scary dude we have elected as President...

The Europeans did not do us a favor by reinforcing his complex with that ridiculous love-in. I doubt he understood that that wasn't about him; it was about Bush, and Europe's need to trash us.

736 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:05:39pm

re: #728 Gus 802

Is that a rerun?

Yes. Season One, Kate is in it.

737 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:05:43pm

Well, I gotta go to bed so I can get up in the morning and go to work so I can afford to pay those shitheads to ruin my life.
Once more into the breach, dear friends, once more...

738 Pietr  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:05:48pm

re: #724 Van Helsing

duplicitous.
Lying weasel commie rat bastard that the 0ne is.

Oh, wait. Can he be a weasel and a rat at the same time? If not, which should he be?

I believe both are in the Rodent family, along with Beavers and Groundhogs.....If the Foe SHits............

739 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:05:51pm

re: #691 Opilio
"The shoe seems to fit." Seem to fit? It was custom fitted and made for him!

740 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:06:15pm

re: #729 Iron Fist

"Everybody likes me! Wonderful, wonderful me!"

He won't even comprehend what he's done wrong, and thus not have a clue about how to fix it. Scary, scary dude we have elected as President...

Yeah, ain't he grand.
Listening to the Inquisition of the AIG chairman.
If I replaced 'AIG' with 'congress' I might feel much better about it.

Congress is SHIT - Sleazy, Hypocritical, Ignorant, Turds.

741 Catttt  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:06:21pm

re: #568 realwest

I will NEVER understand why anyone has a sockpuppet. Never. I mean, what's the damn point of it all?
Y'all say what you want to say out here and folks either agree or not; throwing out ideas by a sockpuppet or using sock's to upding yourself is just plain stupid.
LGF is not and has never been junior high school, ya know?

I could never do a sockpuppet. I have all I can handle keeping track of one nick.

742 avanti  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:06:55pm

re: #738 Pietr

I believe both are in the Rodent family, along with Beavers and Groundhogs.....If the Foe SHits............

On that thoughtful note, I'll wish you all a good night, it's late.

743 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:07:01pm

re: #731 Desert Dog

Thanks, or I would have lost sleep over that.

744 stevieray  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:07:12pm

re: #709 SanFranciscoZionist

Are you saying you believe the Constution is a dead document?

Are you being sarcastic?

The belief that the constitution is "a living document" is centered on the idea that it means whatever the ruling elite wants it to mean at any particular time... even if the new meaning runs directly counter to the actual words in the document.

The opposite of "living document" is not "dead document", it is "constructionism" or "original intent".

A constitution with no fixed meaning is worthless... it protects nothing.

745 Boxy_brown  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:07:17pm

re: #734 Gus 802

You ever see those photographs of Hitler before one of his first infamous speeches? It was done by a professional photographer and he got all "dressed up" for the photo shoot.

Amazingly enough, I think I know exactly what you are talking about. Adolph trying out gestures and expressions. There was a series of them.

746 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:07:20pm

re: #736 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes. Season One, Kate is in it.

Sounded like it. Watched the most recent online last night. Who's carrying season 1?

747 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:07:53pm

re: #693 Racer X
Yep, if y'all have 5 or 6 sockpupets as Joe Six Pack apparently had, he coulda dinged up one of his post by each one of his sock puppets.
As I said; cowardice and behavior barely acceptable for junior high school, much less LGF.

748 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:08:01pm

re: #715 Tully

I warned about this possibility several years ago, and everyone scoffed.

They said I was questioning the left's patriotism.

Welcome, Tully.

You're not of those Tully Tubbies are you?

Upding for your karma and your first post. Karma is your lifeline...use it wisely.

749 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:08:20pm
750 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:08:52pm

re: #745 Boxy_brown

Amazingly enough, I think I know exactly what you are talking about. Adolph trying out gestures and expressions. There was a series of them.

Yes. That's the one. He practiced the gestures, expressions, etc. Clearly reflecting a narcissistic personality in his early stages.

Anyone know where to find these images?

751 x-wing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:09:34pm

re: #727 avanti

So you can have someone who loves this Country sooo much, that they want to change everything it was built on? Is that what you're saying?

I'm just looking for a jumping off point here avanti.

752 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:09:38pm

re: #706 jorline

Good evening, pink.

Note to PBO.

It is better to have someone jerk you off with a loose hand than a clenched fist.

Since you brought it up ...

There seems to be a curious absence from the very beginning of speculation on the sexuality of Teh One. For that matter, that absence extends to the lack of presence of sexuality. Especially when speaking of narcissism, sexuality is an integral component. Most narcissists tend to have a heightened (and often deviant) sexuality, but it is more often about power and influence than it is about intimacy or love.

Just my random thoughts. Where's the man's sexuality? Does it even exist?

753 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:10:00pm

re: #746 Gus 802

Sounded like it. Watched the most recent online last night. Who's carrying season 1?

USA. My husband left the TV going when he left the room, I'm just letting NCIS keep me company (along with all of you) while I correct a bazillion tests on Realism and Naturalism.

754 Pietr  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:10:02pm

re: #742 avanti

On that thoughtful note, I'll wish you all a good night, it's late.

Damn, did I run Avanti off? Bad Pietr.........

755 Boxy_brown  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:10:06pm
756 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:10:08pm

re: #741 Catttt

I could never do a sockpuppet. I have all I can handle keeping track of one nick.

Oh, I would have a lot of fun with a sockpuppet. We could argue over milke chocolate vs. dark chocolate, and my sockpuppet could maliciously post videos of horrible 80's pop music...without a warning, and I could see if I could get it as negative as my real karma is positive.

But I'm afraid to endanger my ability to comment here; it means more than some silly sock puppet.

*sniff*

757 Racer X  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:10:17pm

A young boy enters a barber shop and the barber whispers to his customer, "This is the dumbest kid in the world. Watch while I prove it to you."

The barber puts a dollar bill in one hand and two quarters in the other, then calls the boy over and asks, "Which do you want, son?"

The boy takes the quarters and leaves.

"What did I tell you?" said the barber. "That kid never learns!"

Later, when the customer leaves, he sees the same young boy coming out of the ice cream store. "Hey, son! May I ask you a question? Why did you take the quarters instead of the dollar bill?"

The boy licked his cone and replied, "Because the day I take the dollar, the game's over!"

758 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:11:10pm

re: #742 avanti

On that thoughtful note, I'll wish you all a good night, it's late.

Good Night, avanti. And remember before you turn in: If you lie down with DemonRats, don't be surprised when you wake up with Illogic Fleas.

759 solomonpanting  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:11:11pm

re: #700 Boxy_brown

Ill be quite the water cooler raconteur with that one...

The more I think about it though, comparing Barney Frank with Jeffrey Dalmer becomes less and less of a stretch.

I've composed a few letters (in mind only) and one is to Frank 'n Dodd:
"How does it feel to be part and parcel of of a scandal that dwarfs l'affaire Madoff? How does it feel to have drained pension and retirement reserves, thrown millions out of work, ruined countless businesses, caused mass confusion and loss of market confidence, precipatated massive government intrusion into the marketplace (on that score they'd applaud) on a global scale?"

F*ck you very much,
A concerned citizen

760 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:11:12pm

re: #744 stevieray

Are you being sarcastic?

The belief that the constitution is "a living document" is centered on the idea that it means whatever the ruling elite wants it to mean at any particular time... even if the new meaning runs directly counter to the actual words in the document.

The opposite of "living document" is not "dead document", it is "constructionism" or "original intent".

A constitution with no fixed meaning is worthless... it protects nothing.

Or everything. Which ends up being the same thing.
There was a comment a couple days, weeks, dunno, ago re: the Constitution and the abortion issue. It was my belief that it was horribly weakened by the torture that it took to get a 'right' to abortion out of it, and that it has not fully recovered.

761 BlueCanuck  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:11:26pm

Good morning/afternoon Erik. Did you see littleoldlady's comment rank? She's going to be tickled pink I think. :)

762 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:11:35pm

re: #755 Boxy_brown

Here... Hitler prepping for the teleprompter.

Those are the ones. What a bizarre man he was.

763 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:12:02pm

re: #714 Erik The Red
Hey Congrats Erik The Red - littleoldlady finished with
132 updings on a comment today - I thank her and you for making it possibe!
You are a GOOD man!

764 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:12:13pm

re: #744 stevieray

Are you being sarcastic?

The belief that the constitution is "a living document" is centered on the idea that it means whatever the ruling elite wants it to mean at any particular time... even if the new meaning runs directly counter to the actual words in the document.

The opposite of "living document" is not "dead document", it is "constructionism" or "original intent".

A constitution with no fixed meaning is worthless... it protects nothing.

Yes, I'm, being sarcastic, but it's also worth recalling that we have, with great care, been interpreting and modifying said document for a while now.

765 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:12:46pm

re: #753 SanFranciscoZionist

USA. My husband left the TV going when he left the room, I'm just letting NCIS keep me company (along with all of you) while I correct a bazillion tests on Realism and Naturalism.

Oh, USA, on cable. Sounds like you have a lot work to do.

766 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:13:18pm

Explorers On Global Warming Expedition Stranded in North Pole by Cold Weather

Three global warming researchers stranded in the North Pole by cold weather were holding out hope Wednesday as a fourth plane set off in an attempt deliver them supplies.

The flight took off during a break in bad weather after “brutal” conditions halted three previous attempts to reach the British explorers who said they were nearly out of food, the Agence France-Presse reported.

Hellooooooooooooooo! It's winter time at the north pole...you're not going to find a Holiday Inn Express with a swimming pool.

767 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:13:36pm

re: #749 Iron Fist

Good one. They'll put you in the re-education camp first. Save me a bunk with a view...

I have a feeling that if they put us in a camp together we'd have the camp doing things our way in short order.

Never let them know who you are...

768 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:14:06pm

re: #761 BlueCanuck

Good morning/afternoon Erik. Did you see littleoldlady's comment rank? She's going to be tickled pink I think. :)

Morning Blue. I did and I hope she likes her present. :)

769 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:14:22pm

re: #754 Pietr

Damn, did I run Avanti off? Bad Pietr.........

Good Pietr...:)

770 stevieray  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:14:25pm

re: #727 avanti

People who believe the constitution is "a living document" do not love this country.


People who believe that people with different political views don't love their country are flat wrong. It's a silly concept on it's face, neither the right, nor the left has a lock on love of country.

I think you just admitted that much of what the left wants to do is unconstitutional... they view the document as something to get around.

I do not see those who disagree with me as "not loving their country", only those who see its foundational principles as an impediment to their agenda fit in that category.

771 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:14:25pm

re: #724 Van Helsing
Rat. Definitely a rat. Weasles have some good qualities to 'em!

772 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:14:44pm

re: #714 Erik The Red

Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.
The LGF spy never sleeps. I was going to lurk until yhe LNDT.

It's not that late but I'm drinking. Does that count?

773 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:14:46pm

re: #766 jorline

Explorers On Global Warming Expedition Stranded in North Pole by Cold Weather

Hellooooooooooooooo! It's winter time at the north pole...you're not going to find a Holiday Inn Express with a swimming pool.

I guess reports of the polar ice cap's demise were greatly exaggerated?

774 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:15:14pm

re: #765 Gus 802

Oh, USA, on cable. Sounds like you have a lot work to do.

Just want to give these back to the kids tomorrow, or they'll get crabby. Grades are posted on Monday.

Luckily, Thursday, I have this group at eight AM, and they are essentially comatose.

775 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:15:15pm

re: #763 realwest

Hey Congrats Erik The Red - littleoldlady finished with
132 updings on a comment today - I thank her and you for making it possibe!
You are a GOOD man!

Thanks RW. I did not do much. It was all the great Lizards here.

776 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:15:26pm

From that wonderful faithfreedom.org article during the primaries:

There's the money shot.

777 Boxy_brown  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:16:03pm

re: #759 solomonpanting


"How does it feel to be part and parcel of of a scandal that dwarfs l'affaire Madoff? How does it feel to have drained pension and retirement reserves, thrown millions out of work, ruined countless businesses, caused mass confusion and loss of market confidence, precipatated massive government intrusion into the marketplace (on that score they'd applaud) on a global scale?"

I think if they were honest they would tell you that it feels just fine. The press blamed Bush/the GOP and they got re-elected and more power than they could have dreamed of. Indeed, the bastards are probably laughing their ass off.

They sure took a bite out of my ass at least...

778 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:16:08pm

re: #729 Iron Fist
"Scary, scary dude they we have elected as President.
FTFY!

779 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:16:28pm

re: #774 SanFranciscoZionist

Just want to give these back to the kids tomorrow, or they'll get crabby. Grades are posted on Monday.

Luckily, Thursday, I have this group at eight AM, and they are essentially comatose.

Ah, that way it can be a group morning coma experience. I hear that.

780 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:17:48pm

re: #752 pink freud

Since you brought it up ...

There seems to be a curious absence from the very beginning of speculation on the sexuality of Teh One. For that matter, that absence extends to the lack of presence of sexuality. Especially when speaking of narcissism, sexuality is an integral component. Most narcissists tend to have a heightened (and often deviant) sexuality, but it is more often about power and influence than it is about intimacy or love.

Just my random thoughts. Where's the man's sexuality? Does it even exist?

Here it is.

781 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:19:17pm

We determined earlier in the year that Sarah Palin's campaign was presenting her as Deerslayer. (They were reading some Fennimore Cooper at the time.)

One kid asked who Obama was in American literature. I told them that might be on the final in June.

782 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:20:20pm

re: #769 Dustyvet

Good Pietr...:)

LOL

783 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:20:35pm

re: #764 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, I'm, being sarcastic, but it's also worth recalling that we have, with great care, been interpreting and modifying said document for a while now.

Great care? GREAT CARE? They've been stomping on the thing with hob-nailed boots for goodness sake. Where do you get a decision like Kelo?
Where do you get the 'abortion right' as part of the right to privacy?

To make it clear, I take a stand against the 'federal' right to choose. That never should have been a federal issue and the states could(and were) dealing with it as they saw fit.

The Constitution had very well defined limits for federal authority that have been absolutely trampled, twisted, and stomped.

The Republic has not been improved by the result.

784 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:21:17pm

What in God's name does this mean?

"The Realist writers were not patriotic people who wanted to take over America piece by piece."

Sometimes, my students come up with deeply mysterious sentences.

785 TheMatrix31  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:21:33pm

Hey all,

Just finished 2 papers due online with an hour and a half to spare! One more final on Friday to go!

786 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:21:41pm

re: #781 SanFranciscoZionist

They asked "who Obama was in American literature?" Wow. I suppose it wouldn't be right to be sarcastic with the kids in a professional educational environment. //

787 Silvergirl  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:21:49pm

re: #538 MandyManners

I'm not a Mormon. I'm looking for an acapella version of this song.

Anything like this?

788 stevieray  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:22:13pm

re: #732 realwest

Thanks, Real!

Every once in a while I get motivated enough to leave my usual "lurking" mode, and add a little something to the conversation... and the mindset that says "I love you, now change everything!" gets my blood boiling.

789 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:22:19pm

re: #773 Desert Dog

I guess reports of the polar ice cap's demise were greatly exaggerated?

There is however, a Holiday Inn in New Ulm MN that has one.

790 Opilio  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:22:26pm

re: #742 avanti

On that thoughtful note, I'll wish you all a good night, it's late.

Unfortunately, it's later than you think...

791 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:23:00pm

re: #773 Desert Dog

I guess reports of the polar ice cap's demise were greatly exaggerated?


Oh come on, Desert Dog, they'd never exagerate anything concerning global warming, er, climate change, now would they? While I hear there's hundreds of Polar Bears swimming for their lives cause the global warming is melting the ice caps!
/

792 BingoBunny  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:23:13pm

A month ago I didn't like Obama that much.. now I'm getting scared.. troops being sent into Alabama.. and won't say who ordered it.. wanting to back door away the 2nd amendment.. a bill to create a uniformed national civilian corps with camps out in rural areas for advanced training?
by police officers? threatening death to business men who get a bonus they earned doing what this treasury sect wanted them to do. can you spell scapegoat? can "Fat Joo" be far away now?
the amount of money they are printing.. what is it now about 12 trillions this year.. more then has ever been spent in Omericas history.

we are going to be loose change in a socialist world.. not get change

793 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:23:34pm

re: #784 SanFranciscoZionist

What in God's name does this mean?

"The Realist writers were not patriotic people who wanted to take over America piece by piece."

Sometimes, my students come up with deeply mysterious sentences.

Who wrote that?

Time to pull out the red pen!

794 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:23:42pm

G'nite Gracie! Getting too late for me.

795 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:24:09pm

I just saw the POTUS on ESPN SportsCenter filling out a giant NCAA Tournament bracket ...

I realize the segment was taped, but shouldn't he be getting his rest so he can fix the economy, catch osama bin laden, and insult the Prime Minister of one of our allies tomorrow?

796 jorline  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:24:28pm

re: #773 Desert Dog

I guess reports of the polar ice cap's demise were greatly exaggerated?

They hoping to get in some ice fishing...goes well with the chips.

797 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:25:34pm

re: #784 SanFranciscoZionist

What in God's name does this mean?

"The Realist writers were not patriotic people who wanted to take over America piece by piece."

Sometimes, my students come up with deeply mysterious sentences.

What's the reading list these days. My dad taught English for 30+ years in N. Calif. and Colorado. I used to help him grade tests and papers. I remember his realism section was heavy on Mark Twain.

798 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:25:37pm
799 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:26:06pm

re: #793 Gus 802

Who wrote that?

Time to pull out the red pen!

I thought using red pens for correcting papers was now forbidden?

800 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:26:13pm

re: #791 realwest

Oh come on, Desert Dog, they'd never exagerate anything concerning global warming, er, climate change, now would they? While I hear there's hundreds of Polar Bears swimming for their lives cause the global warming is melting the ice caps!
/

It's all the BTUs those polar bears are dumping into the ocean by swimming so hard that are causing the problem.

And the butterflies farting in Chicago. With the unicorns. And leprechauns.

Bastards...

801 ladycatnip  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:26:36pm
Some of the Guantanamo Bay prisoners could be released into the United States...

As in let go released, or released into our prisons? This is the same Eric Holder who accused us of being a nation of cowards, and he still has his job?

So we have Holder who wants to release Gitmo terrorists into the U.S., and we have Tony West, Obama's nominee for the Justice Dept., who was a terrorist's defense attorney! I assume Holder and West will be working in concert - one let's them go and the other one defends them. What a team.

I fear for our nation.

802 capitalist piglet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:26:38pm

re: #795 _RememberTonyC

I just saw the POTUS on ESPN SportsCenter filling out a giant NCAA Tournament bracket ...

I realize the segment was taped, but shouldn't he be getting his rest so he can fix the economy, catch osama bin laden, and insult the Prime Minister of one of our allies tomorrow?

I believe the Duke coach said as much today. It was in the headlines at HotAir.

803 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:26:59pm

re: #788 stevieray

Thanks, Real!

Every once in a while I get motivated enough to leave my usual "lurking" mode, and add a little something to the conversation... and the mindset that says "I love you, now change everything!" gets my blood boiling.

I know PRECISELY how you feel. That (and the fact that you were right!) prompted me to say that!

804 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:27:17pm

re: #791 realwest

Oh come on, Desert Dog, they'd never exagerate anything concerning global warming, er, climate change, now would they? While I hear there's hundreds of Polar Bears swimming for their lives cause the global warming is melting the ice caps!
/

Well, we now know how to stop the ice caps from melting. Announce a Global Warming Seminar with Al Gore as the keynote speaker at the North Pole.

805 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:27:37pm

re: #799 pink freud

I thought using red pens for correcting papers was now forbidden?

You're right! Off to sensitivity training for me. Red pens can spell catastrophy for a child's future.

E for Failure.

:)

806 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:28:00pm
807 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:28:16pm

re: #791 realwest
PIMF: Why, not While.
Sigh.

808 Catttt  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:28:23pm

Someone said wolf, so I'm linking a poster of Jacob Black (Twilight - New Moon), Bella's werewolf friend, who really hates Bella's vampire boyfriend.

Twilight-obsessed? Moi? :D

And a pic of Bella and Edward.

Moi?

809 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:28:46pm

re: #786 Gus 802

They asked "who Obama was in American literature?" Wow. I suppose it wouldn't be right to be sarcastic with the kids in a professional educational environment. //

No, but I will ask them in June. We were discussing Deerslayer in the last stages of the election, and we did discuss Palin's campaign and the image of the American Romantic hero. It's not a perfect match, but they had some fun with it, and some of them brought in some magazine articles and such. It made Fenimore Cooper more fun, and really, he's so...early nineteenth century.

The Juniors do American Literature, from Anne Bradstreet and Jonathan Edwards straight through. We have to keep referring back to the history as we go--luckily they have a U.S. history course the same year--and during the election they were rather interested in what was going on.

810 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:28:50pm

re: #798 Iron Fist

That sir, was very well stated.
See what happens if your binding rings have a gap? Sloppy, and dangerous!

811 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:29:18pm

re: #742 avanti

On that thoughtful note, I'll wish you all a good night, it's late.

Did Avanti leave? I just got a call from my uncle, and he has a 1961 Studebaker Champ Pickup Truck with 2329 miles on it and he wants it off his property.

It seems like a friend of his brother left the vehicle on his property 3 months ago, because he needed a place to store it while he was moving, but he never came back for the truck, and my uncle can't find him.

The title and all papers are in the glove compartment and my uncle says anyone that can haul it can have it.

812 x-wing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:29:31pm

re: #792 BingoBunny

You're just getting sceered now? Good Lord, where have you been the last two years? Hiding under a rock?

No, I'm not being sarcastic. This crap has been known, but noone wanted to believe it.

813 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:29:44pm

re: #793 Gus 802

Who wrote that?

Time to pull out the red pen!

A very nice sixteen year old boy who plays on the basketball team and, I'm told, is very good at math.

814 capitalist piglet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:30:04pm

re: #795 _RememberTonyC

I just saw the POTUS on ESPN SportsCenter filling out a giant NCAA Tournament bracket ...

I realize the segment was taped, but shouldn't he be getting his rest so he can fix the economy, catch osama bin laden, and insult the Prime Minister of one of our allies tomorrow?

Here you go. Seems Obama snubbed Duke, and got some snark from their coach in return:

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

815 Promethea  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:30:29pm

re: #684 mfarmer1

It seems like the DPRK is really trying to get our attention these days and we don't really give a damn. Oh no, they refused our free food a few days ago! Horrors! Launch your stupid 40 year old technology missile already and be done with it, we've got some more pressing issues here right now.

That's kind of my feeling too. Lucky that I'm not commander-in-chief. If I were, I would do a major smackdown of North Korea and tell them to control themselves, or else.

I think it's time for a bit of Neo-Imperialism. Millions of lives would be improved if nasty scum like Little Kim were more afraid of us than they are. Who am I--Rorschach or Ozymandias?

816 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:30:49pm

re: #811 Walter L. Newton

Did Avanti leave? I just got a call from my uncle, and he has a 1961 Studebaker Champ Pickup Truck with 2329 miles on it and he wants it off his property.

It seems like a friend of his brother left the vehicle on his property 3 months ago, because he needed a place to store it while he was moving, but he never came back for the truck, and my uncle can't find him.

The title and all papers are in the glove compartment and my uncle says anyone that can haul it can have it.

*SNORT*...YOU OWE ME A KEY BOARD...:)

817 x-wing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:32:43pm

re: #796 jorline

They hoping to get in some ice fishing...goes well with the chips.

Speaking of fish 'n chips. Are there any Arthur Treachers left in this country? I loved that place when I was a kid.

818 Promethea  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:32:55pm

re: #705 Desert Dog

Using these criterion, I'd say 100% of the Congress and the Executive Branch and 110% of Hollywood is suffering from this disorder. What is the treatment? Take away the mirrors?

One post I read somewhere on the web tonight suggested that the Republican party should start impeachment proceedings against various politicians who've clearly used illegal methods to enrich themselves.

I think this is a good idea.

819 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:33:12pm

re: #813 SanFranciscoZionist

A very nice sixteen year old boy who plays on the basketball team and, I'm told, is very good at math.

OK it's just that I focused on the part where he said:

"Patriotic writers focused on taking over America piece by piece." Sounded a bit like a criticism of manifest destiny? Or, it could be seen as a criticism of our American history almost from a Howard Zinn point of view.

820 Catttt  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:33:16pm

re: #784 SanFranciscoZionist

What in God's name does this mean?

"The Realist writers were not patriotic people who wanted to take over America piece by piece."

Sometimes, my students come up with deeply mysterious sentences.

I think he or she tried to shoehorn too much in there. Kind of reminds me of that confusing thing Jack the Ripper wrote on the wall in Goulston Street.

821 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:33:48pm

re: #814 capitalist piglet

Here you go. Seems Obama snubbed Duke, and got some snark from their coach in return:

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

Coach K (of Duke) is ticked because BO picked arch rival North Carolina to win it all. And Coack K is right about the Prez's priorities.

822 Rexatosis  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:34:11pm

Excuse me for being late, but what part of "defend the United States" does this policy fall under? I know Pres. Obama and AG Holder are "socialists" but not even Castro, Ho Chi Minh, or Stalin would have cavalierly tossed their own country's defense under the bus in such a manner.

RE #72 Racer X

I give my West. Civ. class that "Socialist Game" every year when we cover Marx. They never fall for it, they want the grades they earn and screw the slackers (who usually haven't made it to class since I teach an 8AM lecture).

823 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:34:25pm

A bartender is sitting behind the bar on a typical day, when the door busts open and in come four exuberant blondes. They come up to the bar, order five bottles of champagne and ten glasses, take their order over and sit down at a large table. The corks are popped, the glasses are filled, and they begin toasting and chanting, "51 days, 51 days, 51 days!" Soon, three more blondes arrive, take up their drinks and the chanting grows. "51 days, 51 days, 51 days!" Two more blondes show up and soon their voices are joined in raising the roof. "51 days, 51 days, 51 days!" Finally, the tenth blonde comes in with a picture under her arm. She walks over to the table, sets the picture in the middle and the table erupts. Up jump the others, they begin dancing around the table, exchanging high-fives, all the while chanting "51 days, 51 days, 51 days!" The bartender can't contain his curiosity any longer, so he walks over to the table. There in the center is a beautifully framed child's puzzle of the Cookie Monster. When the frenzy dies down a little bit, the bartender asks one of the blondes, "What's all the chanting and celebration about?" The blonde who brought in the picture pipes in, "Everyone thinks that blondes are dumb and they make fun of us. So, we decided to set the record straight. Ten of us got together, bought that puzzle and put it together.....the side of the box said 2-4 years, but we put it together in 51 days!"

824 rumcrook  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:34:30pm

I rub my eyes in disbelief....

ive been doing a lot of eye rubbing lately

825 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:34:33pm

re: #811 Walter L. Newton

Did Avanti leave? I just got a call from my uncle, and he has a 1961 Studebaker Champ Pickup Truck with 2329 miles on it and he wants it off his property.

It seems like a friend of his brother left the vehicle on his property 3 months ago, because he needed a place to store it while he was moving, but he never came back for the truck, and my uncle can't find him.

The title and all papers are in the glove compartment and my uncle says anyone that can haul it can have it.

That's not nice Walter./////

826 realwest  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:35:27pm

Well it's time for this boy to be getting some sleep.
So I'll just say I hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night, all.

827 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:35:55pm
828 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:36:00pm

re: #825 Erik The Red

That's not nice Walter./////

Oh yes it was...classic even...:)

829 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:36:03pm

re: #826 realwest

Hasta luego.

830 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:36:13pm

re: #815 Promethea

That's kind of my feeling too. Lucky that I'm not commander-in-chief. If I were, I would do a major smackdown of North Korea and tell them to control themselves, or else.

I think it's time for a bit of Neo-Imperialism. Millions of lives would be improved if nasty scum like Little Kim were more afraid of us than they are. Who am I--Rorschach or Ozymandias?

The Pax Romana collapsed and hundreds of thousands died...
The colonial powers (French, British, Dutch, Spanish) withdrew and hundreds of thousands died.

I don't see where a exercising hegemony with superior power ever accomplished anything...

831 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:36:14pm

re: #825 Erik The Red

That's not nice Walter./////

You think that's bad... guess what? Sawyer is really the Smoke Monster.

832 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:36:31pm

re: #797 Desert Dog

What's the reading list these days. My dad taught English for 30+ years in N. Calif. and Colorado. I used to help him grade tests and papers. I remember his realism section was heavy on Mark Twain.

We read a couple excerpts from the slave narratives, Douglass and Jacobs, "Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge", "A Mystery of Heroism", "War Is Kind", "The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County", "The War Prayer", "The Lowest Animal", "A Pair of Silk Stockings" and "A Wagner Matinee". And some Edward Arlington Robinson.

We're going to do a little Hemingway and a Faulkner story next, and then I'm going to hit them with Gatsby, who I suspect they will like. Scarlet Letter nearly killed them all.

"The Lowest Animal" was popular. Although I almost resigned, the day I asked what Twain meant by "numerous uniformed assassins", and the kid I called on said "Ninjas?"

Luckily for my sanity, one of the others yelled "soldiers, you moron, he means that only people have armies".

833 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:36:42pm

re: #817 x-wing

Speaking of fish 'n chips. Are there any Arthur Treachers left in this country? I loved that place when I was a kid.

Or Skipper's?

834 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:37:19pm

re: #826 realwest

Well it's time for this boy to be getting some sleep.
So I'll just say I hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night, all.

Good night.

835 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:37:55pm

re: #833 Van Helsing

Or Skipper's?

Last AT shop I ever saw was in Arlington, VA in 1989.

836 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:38:03pm

re: #799 pink freud

I thought using red pens for correcting papers was now forbidden?

I have one lying on my stack of papers right now. Some people don't care for them, but I don't find that the kids care much one way or another.

837 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:38:51pm

re: #832 SanFranciscoZionist

We read a couple excerpts from the slave narratives, Douglass and Jacobs, "Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge", "A Mystery of Heroism", "War Is Kind", "The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County", "The War Prayer", "The Lowest Animal", "A Pair of Silk Stockings" and "A Wagner Matinee". And some Edward Arlington Robinson.

We're going to do a little Hemingway and a Faulkner story next, and then I'm going to hit them with Gatsby, who I suspect they will like. Scarlet Letter nearly killed them all.

"The Lowest Animal" was popular. Although I almost resigned, the day I asked what Twain meant by "numerous uniformed assassins", and the kid I called on said "Ninjas?"

Luckily for my sanity, one of the others yelled "soldiers, you moron, he means that only people have armies".

Wow, that is a great. Are you in the public schools? If so, there is much hope for your students! My older sons have been quite lucky with their teachers as well. They will graduate with a pretty solid education, well prepared for college.

838 stevieray  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:39:40pm

re: #821 _RememberTonyC

Coach K (of Duke) is ticked because BO picked arch rival North Carolina to win it all. And Coack K is right about the Prez's priorities.

Its that kind of stuff that undermines the press. Where did coach K say he was pissed because Obama picked UNC? Does CNN have psychic powers? Or did coach K simply criticize Obama's priorities, and CNN made up the rest to undercut coach K's opinion?

839 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:40:24pm

A couple had two little boys, ages eight and ten, who were excessively mischievous. The two were always getting into trouble and their parents could be assured that if any mischief occurred in their town their two young sons were in some way involved. The parents were at their wits end as to what to do about their sons' behavior. The mother had heard that a clergyman in town had been successful in disciplining children in the past, so she asked her husband if he thought they should send the boys to speak with the clergyman. The husband said, "We might as well. We need to do something before I really lose my temper!" The clergyman agreed to speak with the boys, but asked to see them individually. The eight-year-old went to meet with him first. The clergyman sat the boy down and asked him sternly, "Where is God?" The boy made no response, so the clergyman repeated the question in an even sterner tone, "Where is God?" Again the boy made no attempt to answer, so the clergyman raised his voice even more and shook his finger in the boy's face, "WHERE IS GOD?" At that, the boy bolted from the room and ran directly home slamming himself in his closet. His older brother followed him into the closet and said, "What happened?" The younger brother replied, "We are in BIG trouble this time. God is missing and they think we did it!"

840 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:40:54pm

re: #836 SanFranciscoZionist

I have one lying on my stack of papers right now. Some people don't care for them, but I don't find that the kids care much one way or another.

I've picked up a good sense of your style recently from your posts. You sound like a teacher I would have really enjoyed. Your passion shines through.

841 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:41:22pm

re: #836 SanFranciscoZionist

I have one lying on my stack of papers right now. Some people don't care for them, but I don't find that the kids care much one way or another.

None of this I assume is written by hand is it? I guess that depends on the economic status of the students.

842 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:42:41pm

re: #819 Gus 802

OK it's just that I focused on the part where he said:

"Patriotic writers focused on taking over America piece by piece." Sounded a bit like a criticism of manifest destiny? Or, it could be seen as a criticism of our American history almost from a Howard Zinn point of view.

I think he's trying to say that Realist writers weren't jingoistic, and acknowledged the human tragedy of war, but I don't know about the piece by piece thing. Sometimes I just don't know what they mean to try to say.

843 Silvergirl  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:42:52pm

re: #832 SanFranciscoZionist


We're going to do a little Hemingway and a Faulkner story next, and then I'm going to hit them with Gatsby, who I suspect they will like. Scarlet Letter nearly killed them all.

Which Faulkner story? Do you know yet?

844 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:43:12pm

re: #838 stevieray

Its that kind of stuff that undermines the press. Where did coach K say he was pissed because Obama picked UNC? Does CNN have psychic powers? Or did coach K simply criticize Obama's priorities, and CNN made up the rest to undercut coach K's opinion?

the press didn't say it ... I was being cheeky when I said it. but I believe Coach K was spot on in his assessment of BO's time management priorities.

845 sngnsgt  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:43:41pm

re: #839 Dustyvet

LOL! Thanks, I needed the laugh.

846 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:44:00pm

Good night all, play nice

847 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:44:01pm

re: #842 SanFranciscoZionist

I think he's trying to say that Realist writers weren't jingoistic, and acknowledged the human tragedy of war, but I don't know about the piece by piece thing. Sometimes I just don't know what they mean to try to say.

Ah, OK. Not knowing the context or history of "Realist Writers" would confuse my interpretation of that statement.

848 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:44:14pm

re: #820 Catttt

I think he or she tried to shoehorn too much in there. Kind of reminds me of that confusing thing Jack the Ripper wrote on the wall in Goulston Street.

Lord. I don't think I'll tell Kiddo's mom that his writing reminds people of Jack the Ripper.

849 Catttt  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:44:30pm

I remember reading The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock aloud in college and having one co-student say the cat imagery was pretty. Pretty? The cat imagery describes smog. The ninny figured poetry was supposed to be pretty, so it was safe to say that it was a pretty image of smog smothering a house. Sigh. At least she didn't say it was cute.

850 capitalist piglet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:46:16pm
851 Kulhwch  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:46:18pm
Some of the Guantanamo Bay prisoners could be released into the United States

Could we have a national registry of them like we have for sexual offenders?

}:)     [Hey, I'm just sayin'.]

852 Catttt  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:46:26pm

re: #848 SanFranciscoZionist

Lord. I don't think I'll tell Kiddo's mom that his writing reminds people of Jack the Ripper.

Heh.

People are still debating what the heck he was trying to say. It doesn't help that two men wrote it down two different ways just before it was erased.

853 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:46:35pm

re: #452 Kosh's Shadow

I read it earlier, and can believe it, with what we have in office here. There is not one friend of Israel in the Hussein regime.

Shrillary as Sec of State? The list is far too long, and I am fed up. What the Manchurian Candidate has managed to do in just less than 2 months? Essentially he has made Jimmy the Jew hater look almost rational re Israel.

The only thing that makes me feel even a drop of hope is that he is losing the public, and deservedly so. Not only are we in a fight for any sort of financial security brought on by the machinations of Bubba and Jimmy, we face a future that for our kids and grandkids offers a bleak future re a university education, and thus also the research that has been done here and in Israel both? Endangered. in this technological society, we just cannot afford to go backwards. The hate of Jews is now no longer really endemic; it is a pandemic.

When I look at my kids, all 4 of whom are very well educated, and at my 2 1/2, nearly 7 and nearly 9-year old grandkids? What does the future bode for them? A lot of public schools are regressing, and the teachers are just mailing it in. The unions and tenure are not interested in the kids. Yes, there are so many wonderful teachers still, but they are being outnumbered.

Without our support of Israel? The vultures are reading a feeding frenzy. And The One and his buddies are hovering overhead, ready to strike. Let any Jew who voted for Hussein realize what they did, and suffer the consequences. There is no turning back, and we have to stand together to fight and vanquish the enemy within.

And the fight began not on Inauguration day, but on Election day.

G'nite all. Am I angry? Livid, actually. Have I given up? Not on your life. United we stand...or then we will be lost.

May today be a better day than yesterday.

And Killgore? Anyone with the brains to hire you will be very lucky.

My message to Jimmy the Jew hater? Get stuffed.

854 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:46:51pm

re: #837 Desert Dog

Wow, that is a great. Are you in the public schools? If so, there is much hope for your students! My older sons have been quite lucky with their teachers as well. They will graduate with a pretty solid education, well prepared for college.

Catholic HS. I really hope they will be prepared. This is my first year teaching Juniors, and I'm just trying to keep up with the fifteen-year veteran next door to me.

855 Macker  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:47:08pm

re: #759 solomonpanting

F*ck you very much,
A concerned citizen

Careful! Congressman Frank might like that!

856 Catttt  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:48:05pm

re: #850 capitalist piglet

SIGH.

Obama’s computer chief once shoplifted 4 shirts

Good grief! It was at a J.C. Penney!

857 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:48:31pm

re: #850 capitalist piglet

SIGH.

Obama’s computer chief once shoplifted 4 shirts

Oh brother. Those weren't ordinary shirts either. Over 130 dollars.

858 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:48:36pm

re: #841 Gus 802

None of this I assume is written by hand is it? I guess that depends on the economic status of the students.

The kids write tests by hand, and usually homework, but papers get done on the computer. We have a computer lab. There's a range, but we're basically lower-middle-class. Lots of the kids have home computers.

859 x-wing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:48:49pm

re: #833 Van Helsing

Or Skipper's?

Never heard of them,must be regional. Where are you from?

The closest I've come to Treachers fish is Long John Silvers anymore. Love batter dipped fish.

860 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:50:05pm

re: #843 Silvergirl

Which Faulkner story? Do you know yet?

"A Rose For Emily" is in their text, and I think it's pretty fun, so probably that. I may give them a page or two of one of the novels, to see what his style turned into.

861 Silvergirl  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:50:13pm

re: #850 capitalist piglet

SIGH.

Obama’s computer chief once shoplifted 4 shirts

Did he also used to date Winona Ryder?

862 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:51:34pm

re: #849 Catttt

I remember reading The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock aloud in college and having one co-student say the cat imagery was pretty. Pretty? The cat imagery describes smog. The ninny figured poetry was supposed to be pretty, so it was safe to say that it was a pretty image of smog smothering a house. Sigh. At least she didn't say it was cute.

A pretty image of smog. I like it.

863 sngnsgt  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:51:43pm

re: #850 capitalist piglet

They wouldn't happen to have been brownshirts would they?

864 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:52:15pm

re: #858 SanFranciscoZionist

The kids write tests by hand, and usually homework, but papers get done on the computer. We have a computer lab. There's a range, but we're basically lower-middle-class. Lots of the kids have home computers.

Right, computer labs would help for printing and the like The last time I did any "writing" for grades involved a Panasonic typewriter and my spell check hardware was a dictionary. I think the intimacy of being alone with ones writing or analysis helps cut down on distractions and thus increases focus.

865 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:52:46pm
866 x-wing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:52:58pm

re: #838 stevieray

Well I didn't watch the video, but Hot Air does have a thread on Obama making his March Madness picks.

[Link: hotair.com...]

867 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:53:05pm

re: #857 Gus 802

Oh brother. Those weren't ordinary shirts either. Over 130 dollars.

Just par for the course. Thieves and liars, that's Obama and his whole administration minus Gates.

868 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:53:17pm

March 18, 2009 10:46 PM

At his town hall meeting in Costa Mesa, Calif., Wednesday evening, President Obama compared embattled insurer AIG and other large failing banks to a suicide bomber.

"Here's the problem," Mr. Obama said, "It's almost like they've got -- they've got a bomb strapped to them and they've got their hand on the trigger. You don't want them to blow up. But you've got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger."

President Obama Compares Big Banks, AIG, to Suicide Bombers

869 capitalist piglet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:53:19pm

re: #856 Catttt

Good grief! It was at a J.C. Penney!

Yeah...a five-finger discount at Penney's. Oy.

870 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:53:42pm

re: #857 Gus 802

Oh brother. Those weren't ordinary shirts either. Over 130 dollars.

You can get a shirt for over $130 at J.C. Penney's?

871 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:53:44pm

re: #865 HelloDare

Obama Compares Big Banks, AIG, to Suicide Bombers

Wha'?

Did he... what... I mean...

Gasp.

872 stevieray  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:54:26pm

re: #844 _RememberTonyC

the press didn't say it ... I was being cheeky when I said it. but I believe Coach K was spot on in his assessment of BO's time management priorities.

Actually, CNN did say that...

Duke basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski isn't thrilled his team got snubbed by the leader of the free world.

"Somebody said that we're not in President Obama's Final Four, and as much as I respect what he's doing, really, the economy is something that he should focus on, probably more than the brackets," Krzyzewski told a reporter from the Associated Press on Wednesday.

They make it seem like coach K is reacting to Obama's snubbing... as if he really cares about anybody's brackets, or that he might have reacted differently had Obama chosen Duke.

873 capitalist piglet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:54:31pm

re: #857 Gus 802

Oh brother. Those weren't ordinary shirts either. Over 130 dollars.

That was for all four, I take it.

874 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:54:39pm

re: #865 HelloDare

Obama Compares Big Banks, AIG, to Suicide Bombers

There's an important difference: Obama actually believes in fighting the banks, whereas he ignores the threat of suicide bombers.

875 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:54:54pm

re: #870 SanFranciscoZionist

You can get a shirt for over $130 at J.C. Penney's?

It was 4 dress shirts. Total 134 dollars so 33.50 each.

876 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:54:56pm
re: #452 Kosh's Shadow

I read it earlier, and can believe it, with what we have in office here. There is not one friend of Israel in the Hussein regime.

How can you say that? That is just an outrage. I saw his speech to AIPAC where he said that he was Firmly Committed to an undivided Jerusalem as the capitol of the state of Israel.

How DARE you question Teh 0ne!11!one~~!

Of course, I also 'read' his staffer deny the whole thing the next day - "it is of course up to the Israelis and Parasitians Palestinians to work these things out."

The man is a liar. Even more so than a politician is expected to be.

And I don't care what they say, it's a LNDT.

877 Silvergirl  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:55:11pm

re: #860 SanFranciscoZionist

"A Rose For Emily" is in their text, and I think it's pretty fun, so probably that. I may give them a page or two of one of the novels, to see what his style turned into.

The reason I asked is that I love a film version of one of his short novels. It's 98 minutes long (a couple of classes?) and very well done. An amazon review says

In this Horton Foote (Tender Mercies) adaptation of the William Faulkner short story, an honorable prisoner put to work by the Red Cross rescues a pregnant woman grasping a tree just feet above the turbulent waters of the 1927 Mississippi flood. Having never manned a boat before and wildly off course, the convict (Arliss Howard, Full Metal Jacket) manages to convey Addie (Jeanne Tripplehorn, The Firm) in what amounts to a rowboat to New Orleans and then back home, while she gives birth and recovers on board their vessel. Along the way the pair manages to befriend Cajuns, conquer crocodiles, and fall quietly in love. This Hallmark Hall of Fame production directed by John Kent Harrison is suspenseful, moving, and, while leisurely paced, ultimately quite rewarding. Its lack of sexual content, violence (except to a few of the aforementioned crocs), or rough talk make it excellent family fare. --Kimberly Heinrichs
878 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:55:23pm

re: #873 capitalist piglet

That was for all four, I take it.

Yes.

879 Macker  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:55:46pm

re: #868 pink freud

In other words, unclench their fists...

/dumbfuck son of bitch Оба́ма...

880 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:56:13pm

re: #875 Gus 802

It was 4 dress shirts. Total 134 dollars so 33.50 each.

Ok, that sounds more in line with Penney's.

Now that I've got that settled in my mind, he did what?

881 capitalist piglet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:56:13pm

re: #861 Silvergirl

Did he also used to date Winona Ryder?

Would have been an interesting date. Maybe ending with a dine 'n dash?

882 Catttt  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:56:27pm

re: #861 Silvergirl

Did he also used to date Winona Ryder?

Well, at least she picked Saks in Beverly Hills. /

883 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:56:50pm

Why do you people always pick on Obama?

Geez!

He is now are Commander and Thief!

884 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:57:04pm

re: #874 Dark_Falcon

There's an important difference: Obama actually believes in fighting the banks, whereas he ignores the threat of suicide bombers.

Here's the excerpt of what he said:

"Here's the problem," Mr. Obama said, "It's almost like they've got -- they've got a bomb strapped to them and they've got their hand on the trigger. You don't want them to blow up. But you've got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger."

The mighty intellectual has spoken!

885 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:57:18pm

re: #872 stevieray

They make it seem like coach K is reacting to Obama's snubbing... as if he really cares about anybody's brackets, or that he might have reacted differently had Obama chosen Duke.

I think Coach K, as a former member of the military probably didn't care much for BO even before today.

886 Catttt  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:57:20pm

re: #870 SanFranciscoZionist

You can get a shirt for over $130 at J.C. Penney's?

He lifted four shirts. :D

887 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:57:47pm

re: #880 SanFranciscoZionist

Ok, that sounds more in line with Penney's.

Now that I've got that settled in my mind, he did what?

Shoplifted. Was sentenced to 80 hours of community service and some fines.

888 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:58:38pm

Obama Administration: Sept 10, 2001, Groundhog Day, every day.

889 TheMatrix31  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 10:59:21pm

LOL @ the suicide bomber comparison.

890 capitalist piglet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:00:21pm

re: #863 sngnsgt

They wouldn't happen to have been brownshirts would they?

No. In 1996, he didn't need brown ones.

Obama can always say "He's just a guy I picked for my administration. I was only thirty-four years old when he shoplifted those shirts."

891 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:00:26pm

re: #859 x-wing

Never heard of them,must be regional. Where are you from?

The closest I've come to Treachers fish is Long John Silvers anymore. Love batter dipped fish.

The beautiful Pacific Northwet. Tacoma. Been in Phoenix AZ for over thirty years. I have come to the conclusion that what I read once is too true:
Living in the Northwest is like being in love with a beautiful woman....
who's always sick.

Skipper's did a fried fish that was cut thin and lightly battered. the one by my house never overcooked them and they were always Just Done Right.

Probably a fluke (no whale pun intended).

892 Spar Kling  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:00:44pm

re: #581 JCM

The Nation was founded on a few simple principals.

Life

Liberty

Pursuit of Happiness

That Rights are intrinsic to the individual.

The left today may give lip service to those words but their actions place restrictions on individual rights.

What proposal in the last 2 years of a Democratic controlled
congress, and the last 2 months of a Democrat President have expanded,
or further strengthened individual rights?

Indeed. Actually, it should have been Life, Liberty, and Property. They had loony liberals back then, too.

And you’re right. These are intrinsic rights. They are not "granted" to us by any government, nor can they be revoked. (However, justice demands retribution in kind against people who deprive others of these rights).

Elitists, statists, petty criminals, and most dangerous of all, vacuous utopianists, do not think “ordinary” people deserve freedom and equality under the law. These kind of politicians become addicted to feelings of power and control. They routinely and arrogantly rob people of their lives, their liberties, and their property in the name of the children, the environment, social justice, redistribution of (other people's) wealth, world peace, or simply political expediency.

They are in power now. Do you think that they won’t do or say anything to retain it?

-sk

893 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:00:47pm

re: #889 TheMatrix31

LOL @ the suicide bomber comparison.

As Bugs Bunny would say: What a maroon.

Another response could be "is he for real?" I think he might still be smoking pot. Or something.

894 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:00:59pm

re: #868 pink freud

I saw that. For some reason, I couldn't copy and paste the text. Strange.

I don't know what to say about Obama. That statement would be weird for Biden. I knew Obama downgraded the threat of terrorism but this is ridiculous. And scary.

895 kywrite  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:01:08pm

re: #17 Last Mohican

If your family is like my family, they'll welcome the arrival of the poor mistreated Gitmo detainees into America's communities, purchase their bestselling books about their horrible Gitmo experiences, and write to their alma maters suggesting that the detainees be brought on as faculty members. They'll hold bake sales to raise money for the poor detainees' relocation fees, the lawyers among them will volunteer to sue the U.S. government for tens of millions of dollars on their behalf, on a purely pro bono basis.

However, if a former detainee buys a house in their neighborhood, they'll move away immediately.

If your family is like my family, they'll welcome the arrival of the poor mistreated Gitmo detainees into America's communities -- with loaded rifles and 24/7 civilian surveillance. This will cause deaths on one side or the other within one year of release, mark my words. And then all hell will break loose.

896 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:01:10pm

re: #889 TheMatrix31

Are the suicide bombers part of the stimulus package?

897 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:01:50pm

re: #868 pink freud

March 18, 2009 10:46 PM

At his town hall meeting in Costa Mesa, Calif., Wednesday evening, President Obama compared embattled insurer AIG and other large failing banks to a suicide bomber.

"Here's the problem," Mr. Obama said, "It's almost like they've got -- they've got a bomb strapped to them and they've got their hand on the trigger. You don't want them to blow up. But you've got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger."

President Obama Compares Big Banks, AIG, to Suicide Bombers

You're probably not kidding, are you?

898 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:02:09pm

re: #893 Gus 802

As Bugs Bunny would say: What a maroon.

Another response could be "is he for real?" I think he might still be smoking pot. Or something.

I'd go with "or something". Probably crack, given how delusional he is,

///

899 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:02:13pm

re: #865 HelloDare

Obama Compares Big Banks, AIG, to Suicide Bombers

"But you've got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger."

This is his foreign policy. That man will get us killed.

900 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:02:47pm

re: #896 hous bin pharteen

Are the suicide bombers part of the stimulus package?

Yep, they blow up the economy.

901 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:03:07pm

re: #874 Dark_Falcon

There's an important difference: Obama actually believes in fighting the banks, whereas he ignores the threat of suicide bombers.

I think we have a thread-worthy statement there. I'm listening to the nightly news in the background. Wonder if I'll hear that statement.

902 capitalist piglet  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:03:13pm

re: #891 Van Helsing

The beautiful Pacific Northwet. Tacoma. Been in Phoenix AZ for over thirty years. I have come to the conclusion that what I read once is too true:
Living in the Northwest is like being in love with a beautiful woman....
who's always sick.

Skipper's did a fried fish that was cut thin and lightly battered. the one by my house never overcooked them and they were always Just Done Right.

Probably a fluke (no whale pun intended).

There is a Skippers in south Everett, and though I have never been there, I am acquainted with someone who used to work there. People drive up from places like Federal Way to go to it!

903 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:03:46pm

re: #898 Dark_Falcon

I'd go with "or something". Probably crack, given how delusional he is,

///

Seriously. That was way out in left field as they say. Comparing this to suicide bombing takes quite a stretch in analytical thinking.

No wonder he won't release his Columbia and Harvard records. I'm sure it's just chock full of "gems" like this.

904 Pietr  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:03:47pm

re: #811 Walter L. Newton

Did Avanti leave? I just got a call from my uncle, and he has a 1961 Studebaker Champ Pickup Truck with 2329 miles on it and he wants it off his property.

It seems like a friend of his brother left the vehicle on his property 3 months ago, because he needed a place to store it while he was moving, but he never came back for the truck, and my uncle can't find him.

I didn't see WHITE SMOKE or a sarc tag, Walter. But if you're serious, and not joking, tell him to put it on auction at Ebay-after talking with some classic car experts. The money wouldn't bother his life style too much, I hope.........

The title and all papers are in the glove compartment and my uncle says anyone that can haul it can have it.

905 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:03:48pm

re: #874 Dark_Falcon

There's an important difference: Obama actually believes in fighting the banks, whereas he ignores the threat of suicide bombers.

I only have but one up-ding to give.

906 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:04:00pm

Send AIG executives to Gitmo!

907 TheMatrix31  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:04:23pm

One might say it's ridiculous for him to be making NCAA picks and going on the Tonight Show, etc....however, I'm all for it. Anything to keep his ass from doing anything REMOTELY important is okay in my eyes.

908 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:05:19pm

re: #865 HelloDare

Obama Compares Big Banks, AIG, to Suicide Bombers

/what an ass, and why is he in California anyway, doesn't he have anything to do?

909 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:05:28pm

Have we passed the 100 day mark yet?

910 x-wing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:06:04pm

re: #891 Van Helsing

I hear you. I'm over here on the east cast, Pa. to be exact. How's the fishing in the desert? ;>}

911 TheMatrix31  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:06:06pm

Wow....did I notice a Skippers reference a few posts up?! There used to be a Skippers in Fresno and we would go with my family, but that thing shut down in like 1992. I was like, five years old when they closed. It was good though.

912 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:06:21pm

re: #894 HelloDare


I don't know what to say about Obama. That statement would be weird for Biden. I knew Obama downgraded the threat of terrorism but this is ridiculous. And scary.

Me either. Yes. Yes, it is. Very!

Tapper is emerging as one of the good guys. I like his fearlessness.

913 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:06:41pm

re: #902 capitalist piglet

No kidding. I'll be darned. I'll have to look them up when I make my next pilgrimage up north.

It sure is nice country, but after 2 years in the sun I couldn't take the gloom anymore.

914 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:07:31pm

re: #908 Killian Bundy

/what an ass, and why is he in California anyway, doesn't he have anything to do?

"Hey man like wow you know. It's. It's like these guys running AIG and taking all that money man. Like. You know. It's like they're suicide bombers with a bomb strapped to them and they've got their hand on the trigger. You don't want them to blow up. But you've got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger. Like wow man. You got anything to eat?"

//

915 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:07:36pm

re: #897 Van Helsing

You're probably not kidding, are you?

It's on Tapper's blog, late entry. No, quite serious.

I share your incredulity.

916 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:07:43pm

In another month or so, Obama might make Jimmy Carter look good.

917 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:08:21pm

re: #892 Spar Kling

You really made sense with that comment and I know you mostly get the down dings here.

918 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:09:35pm

re: #899 Oh no...Sand People!

"This is his foreign policy. That man will get us killed."

Only if you live an Democratic liberal strong holds. Like NYC, DC, etc. They are not likely to bomb Mayberry.

919 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:09:38pm

re: #917 Pvt Bin Jammin

You really made sense with that comment and I know you mostly get the down dings here.

SK gets his down dings on the ID threads. When he stays off them he can make sense.

920 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:09:54pm

When you read about Obama, you got to check and make sure it's not a story from The Onion.

921 stevieray  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:09:57pm

re: #885 _RememberTonyC

I think Coach K, as a former member of the military probably didn't care much for BO even before today.

Perhaps... I dunno.

What I don't like about stories like CNN's is the assignment of motives to people's words or actions without any actual evidence for that assignation. News orgs. do that too often, and usually to portray those they see as "not like them" in a negative light... for instance hinting opposition to welfare comes from a lack of compassion, or a barely hidden racist streak.

If they know why someone said or did something, share the info with us. If not, don't give us a b.s. motivation.

When they are just guessing, they are really just showing us their inner oppositional strawmen... the cartoon characteristics they ascribe to their political enemies.

922 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:09:58pm

re: #909 Gus 802

Have we passed the 100 day mark yet?

Not till May, sadly. I wonder how much more damage he'll do by then.

923 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:10:25pm

re: #910 x-wing

I hear you. I'm over here on the east cast, Pa. to be exact. How's the fishing in the desert? ;>}

I'm told that there is great fly fishing in the Black River area (I think it's on the Apache reservation in the central eastern part of the state). My eldest went there on a scouting trip - he got a couple of trout.

Other than that, I don't have a clue. I used to fish in Puget Sound... salmon, flounder, sea bass. Yum. Double yum.

924 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:10:44pm

re: #890 capitalist piglet

No. In 1996, he didn't need brown ones.

Obama can always say "He's just a guy I picked for my administration. I was only thirty-four years old when he shoplifted those shirts."

When I was thirty four, some of my friends did some pretty wild things.

Well, no.

Uh, two of them had babies, and I think someone graduated from a nursing program.

Oh, and we had a Fourth of July barbecue at which someone set fire to a trash can with an illegal sparkler. I feel corrupt now.

925 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:11:12pm

Well, its bed time for me. I'll be back before I go to work tomorrow.

926 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:11:29pm

re: #920 HelloDare

When you read about Obama, you got to check and make sure it's not a story from The Onion.

Sad the Onion has more credibility...

927 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:11:45pm

re: #922 Dark_Falcon

Not till May, sadly. I wonder how much more damage he'll do by then.

Here's hoping that most of that damage is directed towards himself...

Good night.

928 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:11:59pm

re: #919 Erik The Red

Thanks. I am beyond the Iron Fist rule. :-) but I just re-read his comment and it's a good one.

929 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:12:51pm

re: #925 Dark_Falcon

Goodnight, DF. Sleep well.

930 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:13:15pm

Nite, lizards, take care.

931 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:13:23pm

re: #925 Dark_Falcon

Well, its bed time for me. I'll be back before I go to work tomorrow.

Good night DF

932 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:13:33pm

Strange times.

Beck On the Strange Appearance of the US Army In Alabama

Today on Glenn Beck, Peter Johnson, Jr., was on to discuss the complete Constitutional violation of U.S. Army MPs being sent to Alabama recently. Beck’s show contacted everybody to find out who sent them, but nobody seemed to know. It’s also a clear violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, but who knows who called it?

Folks, this is getting very scary and very serious. People think Bush was out of hand with the Patriot Act, but this act of sending the Army in to a municipal city with NO obvious reason or invitation goes way above and beyond anything Bush did.

933 Silvergirl  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:13:56pm

"Here's the problem," Mr. Obama said, "It's almost like they've got -- they've got a bomb strapped to them and they've got their hand on the trigger. You don't want them to blow up. But you've got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger."

I was over at ABC News reading the comments section, and thought this one said it all about the above quote:

Oh, so that's how it's done? I'm a Soldier and have been fighting suicide bombers for a few years now. If only I knew that I just need to talk to them sooner! I could have saved a few terrorist lives!

934 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:14:03pm

Thank goodness for Jake Tapper. He's about the only journalist around willing to report these statements.

935 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:14:09pm

re: #930 Pvt Bin Jammin

Goodnight, Pvt. Sleep well. :-)

936 x-wing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:14:31pm

re: #917 Pvt Bin Jammin

You really made sense with that comment and I know you mostly get the down dings here.


Geez, just looked at he/she/its' stats. How did he/she/it avoid the stick?

937 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:14:50pm

re: #915 pink freud

It's on Tapper's blog, late entry. No, quite serious.

I share your incredulity.

Well. That's not the Onion. Wow. Again, wow.
I suppose if I said that once a homicide bomber blows up he can't do anymore damage I'd be labeled as a 'radical'?

Geez. Un bloody believable.
And i just heard some outrage on tv about the Iowa senator saying 'apology or suicide'.
Madness. Utter madness.

938 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:15:33pm

Yesterday, I attended a CLE on military legal issues presented by two Army JAG Colonels and a Major. They didn't outright say so, but they didn't seem all that impressed with the new Obama polices on what used to be called enemy combatants.

/but the first hand description of Iraq detainee operations was fascinating

939 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:15:49pm

re: #936 x-wing

Geez, just looked at he/she/its' stats. How did he/she/it avoid the stick?

All the bad karma comes from the ID threads. SK should just learn not to comment or read those threads.

940 Catttt  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:17:21pm

re: #868 pink freud

March 18, 2009 10:46 PM

President Obama Compares Big Banks, AIG, to Suicide Bombers

Every time he opens his yap, the headline looks like it's from The Onion.

941 redc1c4  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:18:46pm

re: #898 Dark_Falcon

I'd go with "or something". Probably crack, given how delusional he is,

///

i'm going with PCP...... and crack with some meth thrown in.

/white smoke

942 pink freud  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:18:48pm

re: #934 Gus 802

Thank goodness for Jake Tapper. He's about the only journalist around willing to report these statements.

Tapper seems to have found a niche for himself. He's definitely not shilling for the left and covering 0's rear, yet he also doesn't have that taint that some of the more 'right wing' media seem to have. No one hates him (well, except for maybe Roberts Gibbs LOL) ....he seems to be a straight shooter, damned rare in these times.

He's an up and comer to be watched.

943 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:19:30pm

In the end it's almost fitting. We come near the end this thread with a report of Obama comparing AIG and "Big Banks" to suicide bombers while at the same time the Attorney General supports releasing Gitmo prisoners terrorists into the general population.

944 x-wing  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:21:16pm

re: #923 Van Helsing

I'm told that there is great fly fishing in the Black River area (I think it's on the Apache reservation in the central eastern part of the state). My eldest went there on a scouting trip - he got a couple of trout.

Other than that, I don't have a clue. I used to fish in Puget Sound... salmon, flounder, sea bass. Yum. Double yum.

Never quite got into fly fishing. I mostly like the bay and ocean. I fished Lake Erie last year for salmon, damn they're good. When you say sea bass,are you talking about stripers(rock fish) or those smaller blackish brown bass?

945 Gus  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:22:02pm

re: #942 pink freud

Tapper seems to have found a niche for himself. He's definitely not shilling for the left and covering 0's rear, yet he also doesn't have that taint that some of the more 'right wing' media seem to have. No one hates him (well, except for maybe Roberts Gibbs LOL) ....he seems to be a straight shooter, damned rare in these times.

He's an up and comer to be watched.

True. Tapper has been about the closest to being conservative for a long time at ABC or the MSM. He's wavered before which is something that was pretty evident to anyone that's read his blogs but it's good to see him there and reporting on the reality of Barack Obama.

946 redc1c4  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:24:51pm

re: #932 HelloDare

Strange times.

Beck On the Strange Appearance of the US Army In Alabama

Today on Glenn Beck, Peter Johnson, Jr., was on to discuss the complete Constitutional violation of U.S. Army MPs being sent to Alabama recently. Beck’s show contacted everybody to find out who sent them, but nobody seemed to know. It’s also a clear violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, but who knows who called it?

Folks, this is getting very scary and very serious. People think Bush was out of hand with the Patriot Act, but this act of sending the Army in to a municipal city with NO obvious reason or invitation goes way above and beyond anything Bush did.

i could be wrong, but my understanding is that the local 5 man department put out an all hands plea for help, and that the MP's simply provided crowd control and crime scene security to protect evidence. it may be technically illegal, but i'd like to think that what they did was a good thing, for all the right reasons, and ultimately, was what Soldiers are supposed to do: protect & defend this country and it's citizens.

947 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:28:55pm

re: #932 HelloDare

That had to be from the White House or Congress. If it was from the Defense Department worried about terrorists, they would have NOT sent MP's. They would have sent troops if needed for national defense. What? They thought MP's would arrest damn terrorists?

948 UncleSam  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:52:53pm

re: #298 SanFranciscoZionist

Code Pink sold that cottage they had on Solano. So that won't work. Luckily. The neighbors have suffered enough.

I went to the deli next to the former Code Pink house, and now it ( the house) looks completely normal.
What a moonbat lunatic eyesore that place was.
A relief to have it occupied by presumably sane humans.

949 Skyhawk07  Wed, Mar 18, 2009 11:53:02pm

Lizards, I recall Holder worked for a law firm that represented some GITMO vacationers. Don't know which. Must be tough being too much of a terrorist for the Red Chinese. Night all.

950 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 12:34:17am

re: #696 Desert Dog

That is great. My middle made it to Star Scout...never did the Eagle...too bad. His little brother is really into camping and outdoorsy stuff. We'll see if he makes it as far as his brother did.

As an Eagle Scout and Scouter, I definitely know that it's a bit of a race to give boys the opportunities and resources to make Eagle, because once they hit 15-16, most boys' brains get taken over by perfume and gasoline...

951 Ledger1  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 3:14:04am

Q: What could possibly go wrong?

A: About everything including terrorists attacks in the USA.

952 Univac  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 4:12:49am

Everyone in congress that thinks releasing these people into the US should raise their hands.

Those that do will be given one of the inmates as a personal guest!

Problem solved!

953 marsl  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 5:53:02am

Why not? Release them in Berkeley. Re-settle them near Code Pink members.

As long as they don't come to Portugal.....

May this be a learning experience, gentleman. Next time, shoot at sight. Make no prisioners. No mercy to terrorists. Send them to Allah, with a hole in the head.

954 pupdawg  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 5:59:14am

re: #16 Anthony (Los Angeles)

May I say for the record, please, that Holder is bat-shit insane?

and a fellow ass-clown. The Oval Office and Cabinet full of ass-clowns!

955 AMER1CAN  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 7:14:32am

It's not so much a question of how many will be released, but how many will go on to make tenure in our American universities!

956 Canoe Train  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 7:48:36am

re: #953 marsl
Indeed. Let those who agitate the most for their release be among the first to see the results of their own naivete.

One of the biggest issues I have with leftists is that they do not require themselves to live with the consequences, intentional or unintentional, or their actions. In this case, I say let them do so.

957 Canoe Train  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 7:51:07am

re: #658 lostlakehiker

I fear that you may be correct. How else could these individuals be this naive ?

958 Canoe Train  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 7:54:54am

re: #950 talon_262

The other major dropout point for Scouts is when they hit High School as Freshmen. During my youth I was surprised to see guys that I had known for three years work their way up the ranks for three years (Sixth through Eighth grades) only to leave once Freshman Year came around. Even guys who were patrol leaders.

959 azul93gt  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 8:22:44am

#47 avanti
3/18/09 7:22:48

The Chinese at least are not terrorists or enemy combats. They were supposed to be released a long time ago, and have been living in fairly nice conditions at GITMO trying to find out where to release them. Here's their story.

That's a story. I'm not convinced that it is their story. The little article on Musi.com, which you refered to, doesn't seem to delve into the circumstances that found these male youths in Afghanistan. Everyone in Stateville prison claims that they're innocent. Maybe we should just release everyone in every state and federal prison sentenced during the Bush years. If America is so bad as you libz claim these guys should welcome being sent back China.

960 azul93gt  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 8:35:38am

#61 TypicalWhiteLiberal
3/18/09 7:25:12

I *still* don't want the scapegoats here! Not because they're "evil terrists" or some other such bull, but simply because:
a) they've been in Gitmo for years and if they were innocent people who didn't hate us before, they sure as hell do now (and if they really were innocent, who could even blame them for hating us after what happened to them?)
b) even if they're genuinely nice people *and* somehow got through Gitmo without forming a deep, abiding hatred for the US - the degree to which they'll be targeted by idiots when they get released all but ensures that they *will* form that hatred. Or get killed.


TWL, something tells me that OBL himself doesn't qualify as am ""evil terrists"" terrorist in your book.

These 'innocent' Chinese muslim youths were captured in a war zone during a war. Even if they are innocent, which is doubtful, they're not the 1st people to be interred or refugeed during a war. Sh1t happens. One could actually say that they're lucky that they weren't killed by the Afghans given the circustances. If the Americans hadn't taken them they would likely be dead right now.

So I'm not buying your BS sob story. The fact that they don't want to go home kind of undercuts your anti-American BS diatribe.

961 captdiggs  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 8:36:00am

They'll need a place to stay.
Perhaps some of the extra White House bedrooms would work.

962 Colonel Panik  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 8:38:32am

re: #766 jorline

Explorers On Global Warming Expedition Stranded in North Pole by Cold Weather

Three global warming researchers stranded in the North Pole by cold weather were holding out hope Wednesday as a fourth plane set off in an attempt deliver them supplies.

Have they found ManBearPig yet?

963 free  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 9:18:17am

If Holder and Obama are set on releasing them, then release them where you found them.

964 samhein  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 9:21:04am

I was thinking more like putting a high fence around Obama's million dollar Illinois home and let him house them there as his guests.

re: #9 Sharmuta

I suggest the White House lawn. This is 0bama's baby, let him house them.

965 vestalmiss  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 10:12:55am

Dear God please release those terrorist in Mississippi. I would love to see all of the necks around here dish out a little justice. Yeehaa! Woooheeee! I mean if the world is going to believe Mississippi is full of dumb hillbillies then we will be more than happy to prove them right. :) We know evil when we see it. Just tell us the time and date of their release. We can take care of the rest.

966 slicerdicer  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 10:31:03am

BO has a plan. He’s working on the catastrophic event in which he can institute marshal law. And I’m sure the word phrase “for the children” will be in his proclamation.

967 Ceemack  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 11:08:43am

re: #47 avanti

The Chinese at least are not terrorists or enemy combats. They were supposed to be released a long time ago, and have been living in fairly nice conditions at GITMO trying to find out where to release them. Here's their story.


Thanks for posting the link. I stand somewhat corrected.

I still can't see how releasing them into the United States is the right choice. As someone pointed out in the link you posted, habeas corpus isn't supposed to be compensatory.

I wonder...if they were returned to their native land, would they be any more likely to face repression than they were before they were "sold" to U.S. forces by "bounty hunters"?

Perhaps they could be returned to Afghanistan, which has a Uighur population and which I assume is where they were taken in the first place.

968 JakeSpiderMonkey  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 1:57:52pm

Oh Boy! It's tewworist season in the USA! I want to put a 10 point buck on the Wall!

969 wong fei hung  Thu, Mar 19, 2009 3:33:50pm

I will support the release of these prisoners in US territory, if Eric Holder agrees to have them clothed, fed and sheltered at his mom's house.

-WFH

970 SlothB77  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 1:10:22pm

well of course. the real threat we face is from AIG employees. Release GITMO detainees right into the US. No problem. The real issue is we need the names of the AIG employees who received bonuses. they are the bigger threat.

971 TheHistorian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:14:29am

Let's release them. They can go into the White House basement and be pin spotters for Obama. Since he thinks that they are such nice guys, maybe they can babysit for the daughters while he and Michelle go out and party.

Useful idiot!


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