Video: Obama’s Special Message to Iran

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The President of the United States lavishes praise on a totalitarian Islamic state hellbent on acquiring nuclear weapons.

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Today I want to extend my very best wishes to all who are celebrating Nowruz around the world.

This holiday is both an ancient ritual and a moment of renewal, and I hope that you enjoy this special time of year with friends and family.

In particular, I would like to speak directly to the people and leaders of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Nowruz is just one part of your great and celebrated culture. Over many centuries your art, your music, literature and innovation have made the world a better and more beautiful place.

Here in the United States our own communities have been enhanced by the contributions of Iranian Americans. We know that you are a great civilization, and your accomplishments have earned the respect of the United States and the world.

For nearly three decades relations between our nations have been strained. But at this holiday we are reminded of the common humanity that binds us together. Indeed, you will be celebrating your New Year in much the same way that we Americans mark our holidays - by gathering with friends and family, exchanging gifts and stories, and looking to the future with a renewed sense of hope.

Within these celebrations lies the promise of a new day, the promise of opportunity for our children, security for our families, progress for our communities, and peace between nations. Those are shared hopes, those are common dreams.

So in this season of new beginnings I would like to speak clearly to Iran’s leaders. We have serious differences that have grown over time. My administration is now committed to diplomacy that addresses the full range of issues before us, and to pursuing constructive ties among the United States, Iran and the international community. This process will not be advanced by threats. We seek instead engagement that is honest and grounded in mutual respect.

You, too, have a choice. The United States wants the Islamic Republic of Iran to take its rightful place in the community of nations. You have that right - but it comes with real responsibilities, and that place cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions that demonstrate the true greatness of the Iranian people and civilization. And the measure of that greatness is not the capacity to destroy, it is your demonstrated ability to build and create.

So on the occasion of your New Year, I want you, the people and leaders of Iran, to understand the future that we seek. It’s a future with renewed exchanges among our people, and greater opportunities for partnership and commerce. It’s a future where the old divisions are overcome, where you and all of your neighbors and the wider world can live in greater security and greater peace.

I know that this won’t be reached easily. There are those who insist that we be defined by our differences. But let us remember the words that were written by the poet Saadi, so many years ago: “The children of Adam are limbs to each other, having been created of one essence.”

With the coming of a new season, we’re reminded of this precious humanity that we all share. And we can once again call upon this spirit as we seek the promise of a new beginning.

Thank you, and Eid-eh Shoma Mobarak.

The mullahs are laughing today, knowing that Barack Obama will do nothing to stop them from gaining the ultimate weapon. This isn’t just ill-advised, it’s disastrous. Barack Obama just hung a huge “Kick Me” sign on America’s back.

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704 comments

1 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:38:26am

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2 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:38:58am

a kumbaya moment

3 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:39:03am

re: #1 Sharmuta

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Ditto.

4 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:39:21am

Obama bowls while America burns.

5 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:39:35am

EPIC FAIL

6 Davida  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:39:55am
Barack Obama just hung a huge “Kick Me” sign on America’s back.

And they just may.

God help us, we have elected a pod person.

7 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:40:03am

And he just told Iran "Go ahead and nuke Israel".
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8 Kronocide  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:40:05am

Kissing their ass does not promote fist unclenching.

This guy is lost. It's getting very surreal: Carteresque?

9 StillAMarine  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:40:40am

What a putz. It is going to be a VERY long four years, if we survive it.

10 Silvergirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:41:04am

Yeah sure, "Eid-eh Shoma Mobarak." Happy New Year. They'll celebrate this special message by dancing on the US flag.

11 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:41:13am

Can't we all just get along
No great satan, we cannot
what will it take for you to unclench?
wiping Israel off the map
done


nice job, fellow Jews who were more interested in making a statement than in choosing a leader. . .nice job

12 filetandrelease  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:41:14am

Hope! Change!

13 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:41:14am

re: #9 StillAMarine

What a putz. It is going to be a VERY long four years, if we survive it.

I'm going to go watch "300" for the 87th time.

14 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:41:28am

this may be picky, but the pre-message full shot should not have been released. it's very messy and unprofessional.

15 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:41:39am

re: #8 BigPapa

Kissing their ass does not promote fist unclenching.

This guy is lost. It's getting very surreal: Carteresque?

He's worse than Carter. He's done in a month what took Carter four years.
This is like a sequel recapping the first movie before the titles.
I can't wait to get to the main part of the movie.
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16 Gella  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:41:41am

so, does it mean that official religion of USA will me Islam?

17 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:41:47am

O-shit, we elected a complete and total idiot as president.

18 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:41:50am

When I heard him whilst waking up this morning, I wanted to puke.

19 Russkilitlover  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:41:50am

What is the date of this video? I can't get sound at work, so I can't play it.

20 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:41:54am
“The children of Adam are limbs to each other, having been created of one essence.”

Oh, noes! Seekrit geehadi creationist!
/Nirther

21 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:42:09am
22 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:42:25am

re: #10 Silvergirl

Yeah sure, "Eid-eh Shoma Mobarak." Happy New Year. They'll celebrate this special message by dancing on the US flag.

That's only because they don't have nuclear devices yet.

23 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:42:42am
The United States wants the Islamic Republic of Iran to take its rightful place in the community of nations. You have that right - but it comes with real responsibilities

He's really not one to talk about taking real responsibility.

24 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:42:57am

"Thank you, and Eid-eh Shoma Mobarak."
Nice touch, douchebag.

25 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:43:06am

I can just see the Iranian response now. They'll come back with "convert or die", and Obama will be too damn dense to understand it.

26 Kronocide  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:43:20am

re: #15 Kosh's Shadow

So, he'll out-Carter Carter? I'll go there. As you said, clearly in record time.

27 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:43:23am

5-10-5

28 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:43:34am
In particular, I would like to speak directly to the people and leaders of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Nowruz is just one part of your great and celebrated culture. Over many centuries your art, your music, literature and innovation have made the world a better and more beautiful place.

Has he ever said anything like this about the United States -- and meant it?

29 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:43:35am

What a fucking gagger of a teleprompt message. I had to turn it off after one and a half minutes.

Can somebody enlighten me as to some of the "great innovations" 0 mentions that Persia has contributed to Western civilization? All I can think of is carpets, and cats that shed all over them.

30 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:43:37am

Some weird editing in that video. I can only imagine poor Teleprompter needed a few breaks. They overwork him.

31 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:43:38am
32 Sean  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:43:51am

Did anyone really get surprised by this? Jimmy Carter has been skulking around the West Wing lately. Woo Hooo! Carter's foreign policy touch!

33 acwgusa  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:44:05am

I take it that it wasn't, "Iran, GFY."

34 Russkilitlover  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:44:08am
Here in the United States our own communities have been enhanced by the contributions of Iranian Americans.

No, our communities have been enriched by Persians madly fleeing the totalitarian mullah theocracy in fear for their lives.

Fucking moron.

35 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:44:21am

Iran - not unclenching fists at all!

'"We welcome the wish of the president of the United States to put away past differences," Ali Akbar Javanfekr, Mr Ahmadinejad's press advisor was quoted as saying by the AFP news agency.
"But the way to do that is not by Iran forgetting the previous hostile and aggressive attitude of the United States. The American administration has to recognise its past mistakes and repair them as a way to put away the differences."
He said Iran would not forget the role the US played when Mohammad Mossadeq, the former prime minister, was overthrown in a coup in 1953. Nor would it forget the 1988 shooting down of an Iranian passenger plane by a US warship in which all 290 people aboard were killed.
He added that Tehran would also remember America’s support for Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s, the sanctions it levied against Iran and its support for Iran’s main militant opposition group, the People’s Mujahideen of Iran.
"But this attitude of the United States did not weaken us and now the Islamic Republic of Iran is very strong in the world," he said. "The only source of instability in the region is the American military presence in Iraq and Afghanistan." '

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

So why didn't you apologise for all that already, PB0?

36 alan2  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:44:23am

Hey, Mr. President: I'm so glad you're the worldly cosmopolitan leader who understands the rest of the world that I thought you were.

Imagine if we had elected McCain/Palin - Palin could have not realized that showing weakness to a culture based on the fear/shame dynamic would be like a red-flag in front of a bull, or red meat in front of a lion. With her complete and utter lack of knowledge of the world outside of Alaska, she might have looked weak and pleading.

I'm so glad we go you instead.

Now I can rest easy.

37 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:44:24am

A message from President Polly Anna Obama to the people and leaders of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

38 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:44:43am
39 Bloodnok  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:44:50am

The United States wants the Islamic Republic of Iran to take its rightful place in the community of nations.

This citizen doesn't.

40 Ojoe  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:44:51am

Every word in that message takes time to write and read and transmit.

And during every word, the mad mullahs work to build their bombs, which they will use the instant that they are ready.

Obama is a moron beyond all morons.

41 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:45:07am

re: #13 VegasRick

I'm going to go watch "300" for the 87th time.

I'm going to watch the finale of Battlestar Galactica.


(if you haven't seen the show since midseason, skip)
I wonder if they're going to find out that Earth got nuked by adherents to a different religion when the others wouldn't give up their gods.
Not really. But it would make a statement. It would probably also get crowds seething over the scifi network.

42 jcm  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:45:08am

Noorooz, the common transliteration is noorooz.

Noorooz is a Persian holiday, rooted in Zoroastrianism. The mad mullahs have been trying to stamp the pagan holiday out for 30 years.

This greeting is only gonna' piss the Mad Mullahs off.

Obama is naif. Noorooz can be used against the Mad Mullahs if anyone at Foggy Bottom, the Puzzle Palace, of the Admin had an F'n clue.

43 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:45:09am
44 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:45:18am

re: #8 BigPapa

Kissing their ass does not promote fist unclenching.

This guy is lost. It's getting very surreal: Carteresque?


Carteresque? This is a 450 pond Carter on steroids.

45 acwgusa  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:45:26am

Obama, the ultimate metrosexual.

46 jaunte  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:45:32am

Bend the knee to the mullahs, and see what it gets you.
Sore knees.

47 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:45:50am

"Today I want to extend my very best wishes to all who are celebrating Nowruz around the world."

For our celebrations here in Poway we will be going down to the bowling alley and making fun of the retarded.

/ Obama is an ass.

48 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:45:57am

re: #21 buzzsawmonkey

Cringing, ass-kissing dhimmi.

Is he a dhimmi or a closet Muslim? (I didn't think he was a Muslim during the campaign, but now, I'm not so sure.)

49 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:46:07am

re: #44 ilzito guacamolito

Carteresque? This is a 450 pond Carter on steroids.

pond=pound

(now i feel dumb)

50 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:46:35am
51 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:46:42am

Jeez what a long winded bag of nonsense. In the end it's all going to boil down to the great bumber stick of 1979

Hey, Iran ,,!,,

52 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:46:46am

re: #42 jcm

Noorooz, the common transliteration is noorooz.

Noorooz is a Persian holiday, rooted in Zoroastrianism. The mad mullahs have been trying to stamp the pagan holiday out for 30 years.

This greeting is only gonna' piss the Mad Mullahs off.

Obama is naif. Noorooz can be used against the Mad Mullahs if anyone at Foggy Bottom, the Puzzle Palace, of the Admin had an F'n clue.

Just wait for Avanti to show up and defend this nonsense based on what you posted.

53 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:46:57am
This process will not be advanced by threats. We seek instead engagement that is honest and grounded in mutual respect.

I'm not surprised that 0bama is naive enough to think the Iranians have mutual respect us. I'm alarmed, but not surprised.

54 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:46:58am

Obama seems to think, for some odd reason, that the Islamic mullahs of Iran are nothing more than greedy, corrupt Chicago-style politicians. I got news for or Dear Leader, they don't want your money, they don't want your affaection, they don't want your clout. They don't give a shit about clout. They want you converted or else.

55 Kronocide  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:47:01am

"We are very happy The Great Satan is taking responsibility for the destruction and evil it has caused. After a full reconciliation with the people of Iran, our countries can begin anew."

Odds on this response?

56 jaunte  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:47:07am

re: #49 ilzito guacamolito

pond=pound

Well, there is something fishy about the O.

57 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:47:11am

This is fucking pathetic.

I suppose Cuba is next...or will it be North Korea?

58 ~BfromTX  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:47:19am

Well I guess he is going to anything he can to avoid working on the economy...this is turning out to be worse than I think anyone could have thought. From Turbo Tax Timmy to Bomb Bomb us, Iran. Man, I miss the Bush! Actually, I miss adults in the White House. ~B

59 Ackomanyuki  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:47:31am

Teleprompter Reader in Chief Bache Khuni ast.

60 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:47:32am

re: #42 jcm

Noorooz, the common transliteration is noorooz.

Noorooz is a Persian holiday, rooted in Zoroastrianism. The mad mullahs have been trying to stamp the pagan holiday out for 30 years.

This greeting is only gonna' piss the Mad Mullahs off.

Obama is naif. Noorooz can be used against the Mad Mullahs if anyone at Foggy Bottom, the Puzzle Palace, of the Admin had an F'n clue.

Heh - you mean the highly-paid staff at Foggy Bottom had another 'overcharge' moment?

OMG.
Have all adults left the ship?

61 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:47:55am

re: #35 yma o hyd

"But the way to do that is not by Iran forgetting the previous hostile and aggressive attitude of the United States. The American administration has to recognise its past mistakes and repair them as a way to put away the differences."


You mean the warlike activities like having our diplomats taken hostage?
Sorry, Iran deserved an attack from the US back in '79. And they deserve one now, with interest.

62 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:48:30am

re: #23 Sharmuta

He's really not one to talk about taking real responsibility.

If you think about it, what he says here is quite insulting.

Who is he to tell another sovereign country (whatever one may think of them) who gets to be in the community of nations?

63 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:48:33am

re: #39 Bloodnok

The United States wants the Islamic Republic of Iran to take its rightful place in the community of nations.

This citizen doesn't.

Its rightful place is [deleted].

64 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:48:37am

re: #60 yma o hyd

Heh - you mean the highly-paid staff at Foggy Bottom had another 'overcharge' moment?

OMG.
Have all adults left the ship?

Sadly, yes. They left on 1-20-09.

65 AuntAcid  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:48:50am

re: #9 StillAMarine

What a putz. It is going to be a VERY long four years, if we survive it.

...unless I eschew the news I will hearing from or about the Obama's for the rest of my life. crap...crap...grrrrrr...

66 Silvergirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:48:58am

re: #49 ilzito guacamolito

pond=pound

(now i feel dumb)

No. Upding for the remark, no points off for spelling.

67 Russkilitlover  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:49:01am

re: #42 jcm

Noorooz, the common transliteration is noorooz.

Noorooz is a Persian holiday, rooted in Zoroastrianism. The mad mullahs have been trying to stamp the pagan holiday out for 30 years.

This greeting is only gonna' piss the Mad Mullahs off.

Obama is naif. Noorooz can be used against the Mad Mullahs if anyone at Foggy Bottom, the Puzzle Palace, of the Admin had an F'n clue.

Wow. Great post. Barry is beyon naif, he's a dangerous buffoon who doesn't know that our enemies are not laughing WITH him.

68 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:49:19am

re: #66 Silvergirl

No. Upding for the remark, no points off for spelling.

Thanks!

69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:49:30am

I can just picture Obama's "Cinco de Mayo" message to Mexico...

70 Annar  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:50:12am

If Obama keeps this outreach policy going full speed he'll soon have to decide how many Israeli refugees to accept after Iran tests is peaceful nuclear program on Tel Aviv and Haifa.

71 FrogMarch  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:50:14am

sad.

72 locogalt  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:50:18am

He panders to world leaders as he panders to voters.
anyone shocked?

73 mikeymom  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:50:22am

kiss my ass, O.. SPIT

74 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:50:23am

re: #69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I can just picture Obama's "Cinco de Mayo" message to Mexico...

Obama probably thinks it is the Mexican Indpendence Day.

75 Killer Tomato  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:50:31am

Have we figured out who the power behing the Presidential Seal is yet? This person cannot actually be running this country.
And at what point is someone, somewhere in DC going to pull their head out and realize 'he's going to get us all killed' and do something about it?

76 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:50:49am

re: #49 ilzito guacamolito

pond=pound

(now i feel dumb)

Don't - its scientifically proven that most people can get the sense of a written paragraph even when there are lots and lots of typos!

And as I've got difficulties in the typo department, I rely on the generosity and quick wit of the Lizard Nation ...

77 Piglet-U93  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:50:49am

"...Over many centuries your art, your music, literature and innovation have made the world a better and more beautiful place...."

That was so pre 1979. It is now history and all these forms of expression now come with prison sentences or worse. The TOTUS is not clueless it is all part of his great totalitarian plan for America.

78 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:50:55am

re: #60 yma o hyd

Heh - you mean the highly-paid staff at Foggy Bottom had another 'overcharge' moment?

OMG.
Have all adults left the ship?

Yes. And I don't just mean the elected officials, but the populace that has elected them.

79 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:50:58am

re: #69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I can just picture Obama's "Cinco de Mayo" message to Mexico...

He probably thinks Cinco de Mayo refers to the sinking of a freighter carrying mayonnaise for some Mexican food.

80 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:51:00am

re: #69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I can just picture Obama's "Cinco de Mayo" message to Mexico...

Ugh!

81 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:51:05am

re: #75 Killer Tomato

Have we figured out who the power behing the Presidential Seal is yet? This person cannot actually be running this country.
And at what point is someone, somewhere in DC going to pull their head out and realize 'he's going to get us all killed' and do something about it?

I think this is the real FCBBHO.

82 johnnyreb  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:51:06am

This man is a loose cannon. He is going to get a bunch of people killed if he does not stop the madness. His fantasy world and the real world are not the same thing. He IMO meets the definition of being delusional.

83 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:51:09am

imagine, this is only the beginning of his term!

84 Wilderstad  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:51:11am

Great greasy, grimy, gopher guts!
Where did this schmuck come from? Central casting for extras in a comedy/drama? If so get the understudy!

85 opnion  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:51:25am

What innovations have been produced by Iranian culture? They have difficulty refining their on crude oil.
The Ancient Persian Culture was pone thing, but since forced conversion to Islam, innovation has been stagnant.
BHO should have given a shout out to all of the Iranian Nobel Laureates.
Are there any?

86 bolivar  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:51:25am

re: #17 Honorary Yooper

O-shit, we elected a complete and total idiot as president.

FTFY

87 Gella  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:51:27am

re: #69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I can just picture Obama's "Cinco de Mayo" message to Mexico...

i hope he'll be drunk during his message

88 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:52:09am

re: #74 Honorary Yooper

Obama probably thinks it is the Mexican Indpendence Day.

He'll invite the Mexican President over for a few Dos Equis & a screening of the collected works of Salma Hayek.

89 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:52:09am

re: #69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I can just picture Obama's "Cinco de Mayo" message to Mexico...

Will it involve the Taco Bell chihuahua or the Frito Bandido?

90 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:52:10am

re: #54 Honorary Yooper

Obama seems to think, for some odd reason, that the Islamic mullahs of Iran are nothing more than greedy, corrupt Chicago-style politicians. I got news for or Dear Leader, they don't want your money, they don't want your affaection, they don't want your clout. They don't give a shit about clout. They want you converted or else.

Above all - they want no interference in the nuclear armament program, and none when they start using the same on Israel.

91 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:52:12am

re: #76 yma o hyd

Don't - its scientifically proven that most people can get the sense of a written paragraph even when there are lots and lots of typos!

And as I've got difficulties in the typo department, I rely on the generosity and quick wit of the Lizard Nation ...

Yet I still feel the need to write PIMF 100 times as punishment...

92 bolivar  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:52:14am

re: #86 bolivar

I am so bad should be they......I gotta get some lunch.

93 Teacake!  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:52:21am
Noorooz is a Persian holiday, rooted in Zoroastrianism. The mad mullahs have been trying to stamp the pagan holiday out for 30 years.

LOL like wishing fundamentalist Christians a happy halloween?

94 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:52:25am

re: #87 Gella

i hope he'll be drunk during his message

biden should give it...at least it would be entertaining.....

95 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:52:30am

re: #84 Wilderstad

Great greasy, grimy, gopher guts!
Where did this schmuck come from? Central casting for extras in a comedy/drama? If so get the understudy!

Doncha remember the show in Denver?

This clown thinks he's a rockstar.

96 StillAMarine  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:52:39am

re: #10 Silvergirl

Yeah sure, "Eid-eh Shoma Mobarak." Happy New Year. They'll celebrate this special message by dancing on the US flag.

And Barack and his buddy Bill will probably join him.

Barack has already done more damage than Jimmy Carter could do in a century of incompetence.

97 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:52:43am
98 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:52:46am

re: #69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I can just picture Obama's "Cinco de Mayo" message to Mexico...

When he greets the president of Mexico, he'll probably bring a collection of "Frito Bandito" ads on Betamax.

99 opnion  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:52:50am

re: #48 Kosh's Shadow

Is he a dhimmi or a closet Muslim? (I didn't think he was a Muslim during the campaign, but now, I'm not so sure.)

I think that at the very least, he has residual sympathy for Muslims from his own Islamic background.

100 dlmcilvain  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:53:40am

Hold on, I filled this one up....need another barf bag

101 AuntAcid  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:53:47am

#17 Honorary Yooper

O-shit, we elected a complete and total idiot as president.

"ACATI"

102 Gella  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:54:06am

re: #94 phoenixgirl

biden should give it...at least it would be entertaining.....

my point exactly
and then u can forgive him some of his blabing, drunk ppl

103 FrogMarch  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:54:07am

*ahem*

104 gregb  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:54:15am

And when the speech doesn't help to thaw relations--they'll still think it's a good idea and that they just need to explain or market it different.

105 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:54:15am

re: #70 Annar

If Obama keeps this outreach policy going full speed he'll soon have to decide how many Israeli refugees to accept after Iran tests is peaceful nuclear program on Tel Aviv and Haifa.

O has made it clear he idolizes FDR so the number of refugees will be none.

106 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:54:18am

biden in a pancho and sombrero at the border, waiving his arms shouting welcome home!

107 jorline  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:54:42am

Good morning all.

Iran removes their proverbial shoes and takes aim at Obama.

Duck....Incoming!

Is PBO ready to sell out Israel?

108 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:54:44am

re: #61 Kosh's Shadow

You mean the warlike activities like having our diplomats taken hostage?
Sorry, Iran deserved an attack from the US back in '79. And they deserve one now, with interest.

Nonononono.No.
Ya don't get it, do you - its all the fault of the Amerikkkans, see!

If they hadn't started with Mossaqdeq and so forth, there would have been no need for the hsotages, that was purely defensive, see, right?
Defensive hostage taking, thats what it was ...

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109 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:54:48am
110 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:54:51am

re: #93 Teacake!

LOL like wishing fundamentalist Christians a happy halloween?

or giving a set of DVDs to a blind guy.. .what, it's not like he'll watch them, so why does it matter that they are the wrong format?//

111 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:54:52am

re: #89 MandyManners

Will it involve the Taco Bell chihuahua or the Frito Bandido?

"You people have given the world so much - landscaping, margaritas, George Lopez..."

112 opnion  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:54:55am

re: #69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I can just picture Obama's "Cinco de Mayo" message to Mexico...

"Olla Amigos Y Amigas. Dudes, I ate the worm!"

113 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:55:08am

Rightful place among nations? Would that include Israel, given that Iran was busy funding the Syrian nuclear program (which Israel happened to discover and destroy on Sept 6 a few years back). Iran continues its domestic nuclear program all while pushing forward with missile tech, supporting Hamas and Hizbullah, and seeks Israel's destruction. It also regularly calls for the death to America, but I guess that qualifies Iran as being among the rightful place among nations.

114 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:55:12am
115 Ojoe  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:55:14am

re: #106 phoenixgirl

That would be OK if he were on the south side of the border.

BBL

116 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:55:15am

Our best hope now is that he accidentally burned his video message onto a DVD that can't be played outside of the US.

117 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:55:25am

re: #89 MandyManners

Will it involve the Taco Bell chihuahua or the Frito Bandido?

iYo quiero inmigrantes ilegales!

118 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:55:38am

re: #95 unreconstructed rebel

Doncha remember the show in Denver?

This clown thinks he's a rockstar.

Rockstar?


119 jaunte  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:55:59am

re: #109 buzzsawmonkey

Someone else has always covered his details. It's a life pattern.

120 lurking faith  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:56:15am

America has been enriched by immigrants from Iran - who were refugees from the Islamic revolution.

(Yes, I know some. Nice people.)

121 Lincolntf  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:56:16am

The text of that statement read like a sniveling entreaty from some minor vassal to a 17th Century Earl.

"Please, sir, accept my humblest apologies for all the transgressions and trespasses against you committed by my ill-witted forebears, verily do I .beg that you show mercy upon your humble servant...""

122 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:56:18am
123 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:56:38am

re: #91 ilzito guacamolito

Yet I still feel the need to write PIMF 100 times as punishment...

shhhhhhhh- don't give g-dess of the classroom any ideas. . ..:)

124 locogalt  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:56:54am

re: #116 Last Mohican

if we are lucky he sent this to the Special Olympics as an apology

125 Ojoe  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:56:56am

re: #116 Last Mohican

Too late, somebody in Iran checks here from time to time you may be sure.

126 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:56:58am

Never in all my born days have I ever seen a world leader bend over & spread 'em.

/& my days are 23,400+

127 2-Drink Minimum  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:57:03am

انها تعمل
- IRAN

128 RoughRider  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:57:20am
Indeed, you will be celebrating your New Year in much the same way that Michelle and I mark our holidays - by gathering with friends and family, exchanging gifts and stories, and marching in the streets shouting Death to America.
129 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:57:26am

re: #111 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"You people have given the world so much - landscaping, margaritas, George Lopez..."

fire drills, oh wait. . .um the donkeys would not have hats if not for you kind people. . .

130 Emerald  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:57:28am

I just pray it doesn't take too long to repair the damage Obama does in the next four years.

131 redheadredstate  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:57:31am

I swear it's as if all of this crap coming out of the whitehouse is purposely meant to bring down the U.S. I can smell Soros all over it. We can only come up with two conclusions from this fool's first three months in office. He is either a) the biggest, clueless moron ever to occupy the whitehouse or b) he's the most evil, diabolical agent/puppet of Soros or some other entity designed to bring the US to it's knees. I'll be damned if I can figure out which he is.

132 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:57:41am

re: #82 johnnyreb

This man is a loose cannon. He is going to get a bunch of people killed if he does not stop the madness. His fantasy world and the real world are not the same thing. He IMO meets the definition of being delusional.

And when Iranian devices start going boom around the world all O will do is get more desperate in his wanting to surrender to the Islamists.

133 lurking faith  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:57:47am

re: #114 Sean
Dude, you are soooo begging to be banned.

134 opnion  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:57:52am

re: #126 unreconstructed rebel

Never in all my born days have I ever seen a world leader bend over & spread 'em.

/& my days are 23,400+

Barry is now officially the Mullahs bitch.

135 NY Nana  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:57:53am

re: #7 Kosh's Shadow

And he just told Iran "Go ahead and nuke Israel".
[DELETED!]

/But he asked politely.

136 Perplexed  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:58:04am

re: #8 BigPapa

Kissing their ass does not promote fist unclenching.

This guy is lost. It's getting very surreal: Carteresque?

Much worse than with Carter.

137 Wishing  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:58:23am

re: #69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I can just picture Obama's "Cinco de Mayo" message to Mexico...

Or his Passover message in a few weeks?

138 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:58:25am

re: #106 phoenixgirl

biden in a pancho and sombrero at the border, waiving his arms shouting welcome home!

Los Pueblos!


139 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:58:42am

re: #64 Honorary Yooper

Sadly, yes. They left on 1-20-09.

Its frightening.
Usually, there are some senior permanent staff who can prevent the more awful msitakes of the new incomers.
But it looks as if the whole lot at Foggy Bottom has been working against President Bush for the whole eight years, and are now relishing the 'freedom' of doing their part in re-engineering the world accorind to their moonbat views.
No wonder John Bolton despised them.

And I'm also beginning to think that Condi did not get the best advice possible. Pity she didn't have the balls to clear that lot out.

140 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:58:49am

re: #128 RoughRider

AWESOME!

AND-

please join us in finally being proud of our country. . .as you unleash you. . .I mean unclench your fists and join us as we fuck over Israel. . .

141 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:58:53am
142 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:59:03am

re: #130 Emerald

I just pray it doesn't take too long to repair the damage Obama does in the next four years.

I hate to say it, but I'm pretty sure it's gonna be eight years, if DC isn't destroyed in a nuclear fireball first.

143 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:59:04am

re: #111 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"You people have given the world so much - landscaping, margaritas, George Lopez..."

Charrrrrrrrrrrro!

144 Annar  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:59:23am

re: #99 opnion

I think that at the very least, he has residual sympathy for Muslims from his own Islamic background.

That would be Sunni, not good for dealing with Shi'a Iran. But he could join the Shi'a crowd and get a discount at the local whore houses Temporary Marriage centers if he gets invited for a cultural tour which would , of course, include a visit to Mahmoud's 12th Imam well in Qom.

145 Cato  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:59:24am

This is the direct result of multiculturalism. It makes people idiots.

Don't miss the good news here: Israel knows now that it cannot rely on America and that it must act and not wait for us.

146 dhg4  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:59:25am

re: #8 BigPapa

Kissing their ass does not promote fist unclenching.

This guy is lost. It's getting very surreal: Carteresque?

The NYT had an item about the Iranian blogger who died in jail. At the end of the article it noted that Iran was holding a reporter in jail too.

Two weeks ago, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that the U.S. State Department had been working through intermediaries to win Ms. Saberi’s release, and an Iranian official said that Ms. Saberi would be released “within days.” Her father told Ms. Hilsum that if his daughter was not released by the start of the Iranian New Year’s celebrations this Friday evening, she is unlikely to leave Evin Prison before the end of the two-week holiday.

Why couldn't the President have said something like:

As a sign of your seriousness of a new relationship between our peoples, I call on you to release Roxana Saberi from the Evin prison as a good faith measure. Such a gesture would signal that your commitment to freedom and friendship is sincere.

147 Indefatigable  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:59:31am

Time and time again, I told my relatives and friends that Obama was not cut out for the job, that he was incredibly naive and out of his league. Together with the MSM, Obama presented style over substance and rhetoric over reality. It's going to be a long four years.

148 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:59:33am
149 RaiderDan  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:59:42am

A masterful speech, Neville Chamberlain would have been proud....

150 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:59:55am

re: #70 Annar

If Obama keeps this outreach policy going full speed he'll soon have to decide how many Israeli refugees to accept after Iran tests is peaceful nuclear program on Tel Aviv and Haifa.

He won't need to decide - he won't accept any.
For health reasons ...

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151 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:00:02am

re: #117 ilzito guacamolito

iYo quiero inmigrantes ilegales!

Como se dice "undocumented workers"?

152 opnion  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:00:05am

re: #143 MandyManners

Charrrrrrrrrrrro!

Mandy, she's Spanish.

153 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:00:07am

re: #137 Wishing

Or his Passover message in a few weeks?


crickets. . oh, better send a ham to the Jews- it's Jewish easter for them. . .

154 Russkilitlover  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:00:12am

Interesting read. Not particulary upbeat on this first day of spring.

Helicopter Ben Bernanke’s Federal Reserve is dropping trillions of fresh paper dollars on the world economy, the President of the United States is cracking jokes on late night comedy shows, his energy minister is threatening a trade war over carbon emissions, his treasury secretary is dithering over a banking reform program amid rising concerns over his competence and a monumentally dysfunctional U.S. Congress is launching another public jihad against corporations and bankers.

As an aghast world — from China to Chicago and Chihuahua — watches, the circus-like U.S. political system seems to be declining into near chaos. Through it all, stock and financial markets are paralyzed. The more the policy regime does, the worse the outlook gets. The multi-ringed spectacle raises a disturbing question in many minds: Is this the end of America?

155 Kragar  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:00:18am

Barry, you are a fucking idiot.

156 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:00:20am

re: #130 Emerald

I just pray it doesn't take too long to repair the damage Obama does in the next four years.

The damage Carter did is still with us.

157 alegrias  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:00:30am

re: #17 Honorary Yooper

O-shit, we elected a complete and total idiot as president.

* * *
No some of us didn't.
I voted for "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" McCain.

158 Piglet-U93  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:00:46am

Why is it every time the TOTUS speaks I get the feeling he is still running for President?

159 AuntAcid  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:00:48am

re: #109 buzzsawmonkey

Rather than doing the job of POTUS, BHO is changing the job to fit his skill set...

160 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:01:03am

re: #138 MandyManners

Los Pueblos!

[Video]

cracks me up everytime but makes me very angry at the same time

161 jcm  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:01:33am

re: #139 yma o hyd

Its frightening.
Usually, there are some senior permanent staff who can prevent the more awful msitakes of the new incomers.
But it looks as if the whole lot at Foggy Bottom has been working against President Bush for the whole eight years, and are now relishing the 'freedom' of doing their part in re-engineering the world accorind to their moonbat views.
No wonder John Bolton despised them.

And I'm also beginning to think that Condi did not get the best advice possible. Pity she didn't have the balls to clear that lot out.

Foggy bottom has had huge problem for a long, long time. The bureaucratic zombies that run the place are GS employees and impossible to get rid of. Regardless of the intentions or balls of the Sec. State, they get garbage advice.

162 jaunte  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:01:38am

I hope our armed forces are not fully disarmed before we have to pay for this idiot wind.

163 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:01:45am
164 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:01:51am

President Obamadinejad.

165 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:01:58am

re: #158 Piglet-U93

Why is it every time the TOTUS speaks I get the feeling he is still running for President?

Because campaigning and voting "Present" are all he knows how to do.

166 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:01:59am

re: #152 opnion

Mandy, she's Spanish.

Oops.

167 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:02:04am

re: #91 ilzito guacamolito

Yet I still feel the need to write PIMF 100 times as punishment...

Awww - better write another of your excellent comments!

168 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:02:24am

re: #157 alegrias

* * *
No some of us didn't.
I voted for "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" McCain.

Some of us didn't vote for Obama or McCain, because, while they hated Obama, they felt that McCain wasn't quite conservative enough.

I hope they're happy now.

169 father_of_10  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:02:29am

Anyone have a copy of Bush's Nowruz greeting?

170 Lincolntf  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:02:33am

re: #146 dhg4

I wonder if he expected/hoped Mahmoud to do it as a reciprocal gesture, unbidden, as thanks for the "conciliatory" address?

171 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:02:46am

re: #158 Piglet-U93

Why is it every time the TOTUS speaks I get the feeling he is still running for President?

Probably because the feeling reflects reality.

172 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:02:51am

re: #159 AuntAcid

Rather than doing the job of POTUS, BHO is changing the job to fit his skill set...

lead singer on the Fuck America World Tour?

173 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:02:59am

re: #158 Piglet-U93

Why is it every time the TOTUS speaks I get the feeling he is still running for President?

Perpetual revolution is his model.

174 FrogMarch  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:03:14am

how about saying this:

"We have no beef with the oppressed freedom seeking Iranian people. but this is my message to the mad Mullahs and the bad-shit crazy President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: Kiss my ass. You touch one tiny hair on Israel's head - and your ass is grass."

/never gonna happen.

175 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:03:31am
It’s a future with renewed exchanges among our people, and greater opportunities for partnership

Partnership in what, Mr. Obama?

Partnership in what?

176 Cato  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:03:32am

re: #147 Indefatigable


He is shockingly naive about foreign matters, but he is as cynical as they come when dealing with ACORN or card check or the fairness doctrine...

177 Big Steve  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:03:50am

again......F Troop Administration.

178 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:03:55am

re: #168 Last Mohican

Some of us didn't vote for Obama or McCain, because, while they hated Obama, they felt that McCain wasn't quite conservative enough.

I hope they're happy now.

Time for a Mandy Redux comment on this very topic?

179 opnion  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:04:03am

re: #166 MandyManners

Oops.

Common mistake & Charro is so dam talented. The fact that she never got an Emmy for the Love Boat is just a disgrace. "Coochie Coochie"

180 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:04:15am
We know that you are a great civilization, and your accomplishments have earned the respect of the United States and the world.

No they haven't.

For nearly three decades relations between our nations have been strained.

That will happen when one nation takes and holds hostages from the other.

Within these celebrations lies the promise of a new day, the promise of opportunity for our children, security for our families, progress for our communities, and peace between nations. Those are shared hopes, those are common dreams.

No they are not. Iran doesn't care about progress or peace, unless it is through total domination. As for Their children and families, I don't know that they even really care about them, except for how they can be used to further their cause.

It’s a future where the old divisions are overcome, where you and all of your neighbors and the wider world can live in greater security and greater peace.

"...A future without an Israel and where America gets down on it's knees before you."

There are those who insist that we be defined by our differences.

Yes, that would be Iran!

Aww spit!

181 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:04:21am

re: #175 Occasional Reader

Partnership in what, Mr. Obama?

Partnership in what?

U R SEW MEEN, OR.

182 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:04:23am
183 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:04:40am

re: #174 FrogMarch

how about saying this:

"We have no beef with the oppressed freedom seeking Iranian people. but this is my message to the mad Mullahs and the bad-shit crazy President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: Kiss my ass. You touch one tiny hair on Israel's head - and your ass is grass."

/never gonna happen.

I got a mental image of the office scene from National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation reading this comment.

184 Sean  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:04:48am

I really doubt it. Everyone has a theory on what happened during those days.

185 father_of_10  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:04:49am

re: #176 Cato

He is shockingly naive about foreign matters, but he is as cynical as they come when dealing with ACORN or card check or the fairness doctrine...

He's shockingly naive about domestic matters too.
He's shockingly naive about economic matters too.

186 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:04:49am

re: #137 Wishing

Or his Passover message in a few weeks?

Oy!

187 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:00am

re: #175 Occasional Reader

Partnership in what, Mr. Obama?

Partnership in what?

Our partnership in paying Jizya, duh.

188 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:12am

re: #177 Big Steve

again......F Troop Administration.

"were the fakawee"

189 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:14am

Where's Avanti?

190 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:15am
191 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:19am

I hope that everyone who refused to vote for McCain because he wasn't conservative enough is fucking happy now.

192 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:20am

re: #168 Last Mohican

Some of us didn't vote for Obama or McCain, because, while they hated Obama, they felt that McCain wasn't quite conservative enough.

I hope they're happy now.

Or as Mandy would say, "Are you fucking happy, now?"

193 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:25am
194 RoughRider  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:26am

re: #131 redheadredstate

He is either a) the biggest, clueless moron ever to occupy the whitehouse or b) he's the most evil, diabolical agent/puppet of Soros or some other entity designed to bring the US to it's knees. I'll be damned if I can figure out which he is.

I used to think (a) until I realized that for his entire adult life, The One has chosen to ally himself with Marxists, racists, terrorists agents of man-caused disasters, and America-haters of every stripe.

Draw your own conclusions.

195 yesandno  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:29am

What history books has this man been reading?

Doesn't he know that what he says is not nearly as effective as what action he would be willing to take?

In fact, that would apply to all aspects of his (lack of) governence...
the failure to have any real grasp of true history, not some touchy-feely, wishy-washy, changey-hopey world view. Full of platitudes, nothing to back any of it up.

196 Piglet-U93  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:33am

re: #137 Wishing

Or his Passover message in a few weeks?

I am not holding my breath for a Passover/Easter message. It ain't happening.

197 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:36am

re: #189 Ward Cleaver

Where's Avanti?

Fetal position under his desk.

198 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:39am

March 20, 1942 - "I came out of Bataan and I shall return", General of the Army - Douglas MacArthur, at Terowie, South Australia.

199 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:05:54am

re: #191 MandyManners

I hope that everyone who refused to vote for McCain because he wasn't conservative enough is fucking happy now.

Thanks, I needed that. . .

200 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:06:01am

re: #178 DisturbedEma

Time for a Mandy Redux comment on this very topic?

It's always a good time for that particular comment. I think ten to twenty times per day is about the right frequency. I omitted the usual profanity from my rendition, but in retrospect I think I should have included it.

201 kansas  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:06:16am

re: #17 Honorary Yooper

O-shit, we elected a complete and total idiot as president.

It's seriously worse than that. An idiot would likely STFU occasionally. This guy, with his Affirmative Action degrees, thinks his intellect is a gift to the universe. And apparently his ass kissing swooning multitudes think that too.

202 Teacake!  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:06:17am

Maybe he should be apologizing to the actual Persians for how Carter fucked things up for them

203 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:06:20am

re: #189 Ward Cleaver

Where's Avanti?

Who cares?

204 jcm  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:06:25am

re: #169 father_of_10

Anyone have a copy of Bush's Nowruz greeting?



Presidential Message: Nowruz

I send greetings to Iranian Americans observing Nowruz.

During Nowruz, people of Iranian descent celebrate the arrival of spring, a season of rebirth. This joyous occasion provides an opportunity for Persians to cherish their rich heritage and enjoy the company of family and friends in anticipation of happiness and blessings in the year ahead.

This year's observance comes during a challenging time for our Nation and the world. As the international community works to face great challenges and embrace important opportunities, America remains committed to peace, justice, and opportunity for all people. Throughout this time of renewal, we remain dedicated to bringing hope and freedom to troubled regions around the world.

Laura joins me in sending our best wishes for a joyous celebration to you, your families, and your relatives and friends in Iran.

GEORGE W. BUSH

205 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:06:39am

re: #203 Sharmuta

Who cares?

206 subsailor68  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:06:43am

I wonder if Obama has now alienated the "Iranian-American" community here? I ask, because when we lived in Los Angeles, we lived in an area with a great number of folks who had left Iran. It was a mistake to call them Iranian. They would always correct people, saying "No! We are not Iranian. We are Persian."

Maybe that has changed, but these folks were adamant at the time.

207 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:06:46am

re: #191 MandyManners

Yup, I definitely like Mandy's version better than mine.

208 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:07:00am

Channeling Avanti.

"Well, at least the Iranians were able to play the video in their region. That's progress. I bet the administration never make that mistake again."

209 opinionated  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:07:04am

On the other hand there are reports from Caroline Glick and others that the Obama Administration also has a message to Israel.

In words and deeds that message is that we are not interested in anything you have to say or in even talking to you on any subject except the immediate creation of a "Palestinian" State.

210 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:07:35am

re: #193 taxfreekiller

On Avanti

see

#1314
#1315
Overnight Open Thread
He says he is gone?
Got a feeling now that our Avanti has some involvement with ACORN, due to the way he post on that subject.

IMO he is not just exactly what he says he is, be very careful
The U.S. Justice Dept. is not in good hands just now.

Be prepared, be alert, think before you respond.

I have already suffered professionally from my comments- my sons are in war, and my life is a mess, I am working at McDonalds with a Master's Degree in Education- Avanti doesn't scare me. . .just saying

211 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:07:39am

re: #107 jorline

Good morning all.

Iran removes their proverbial shoes and takes aim at Obama.

Duck....Incoming!

Is PBO ready to sell out Israel?

Soon, I think.

212 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:07:44am
213 jcm  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:07:46am

re: #131 redheadredstate

I swear it's as if all of this crap coming out of the whitehouse is purposely meant to bring down the U.S. I can smell Soros all over it. We can only come up with two conclusions from this fool's first three months in office. He is either a) the biggest, clueless moron ever to occupy the whitehouse or b) he's the most evil, diabolical agent/puppet of Soros or some other entity designed to bring the US to it's knees. I'll be damned if I can figure out which he is.

He knows what he is doing.....

214 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:07:49am

re: #205 VegasRick

Kind of like that SpaceJesus. If he was just ignored, he'd go away.

215 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:07:58am

re: #200 Last Mohican

It's always a good time for that particular comment. I think ten to twenty times per day is about the right frequency. I omitted the usual profanity from my rendition, but in retrospect I think I should have included it.


word!

216 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:08:01am

re: #190 buzzsawmonkey

We have elected David Dinkins the Younger as President.

Countdown to the Crown Heights riots on at least a national, if not an international scale.

Good grief, I never thought of it like that before, but you're right. Even to the idol worship - I recall the episode of Seinfeld which Rudy Guliani guest-starred, everyone spoke of Mayor Dinkins in hushed, awed, tones.

217 ~BfromTX  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:08:07am

re: #183 thedopefishlives

Or "your ass is glass, not grass. Just saying/// ~B

218 BLBfootballs  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:08:08am

Embarrassing. The real problem is that the Iranian people will understand that Obama is not reaching out to them but rather to their Muslim overlords. Expect anti-Americanism to increase -- the majority of Iranians hate the mullahs.

219 AuntAcid  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:08:16am

re: #136 Perplexed

Much worse than with Carter.

Carter said he wanted to be buried in his front yard in GA. I bet Obama would prefer something more Lincolnesque and on the National Mall.

220 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:08:21am

re: #214 Sharmuta

Kind of like that SpaceJesus. If he was just ignored, he'd go away.

Yep!

221 Perplexed  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:08:28am

Actually, Obama choked to death last November while trying to cram down as many waffles as he could in as short of time as he could. Video feeds were intercepted and between Disney's animatronics and Dreamworks, they've managed to convince the world that Obama is in charge when in fact it is a couple geeks arguing over the way the country should be led.

222 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:08:56am

re: #210 DisturbedEma

I have already suffered professionally from my comments- my sons are in war, and my life is a mess, I am working at McDonalds with a Master's Degree in Education- Avanti doesn't scare me. . .just saying

my comments in the real world that is. . I still have lizard loves. . .:)

223 father_of_10  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:08:59am

re: #214 Sharmuta

Kind of like that SpaceJesus. If he was just ignored, he'd go away.

But spacejesus is so fun to kick around.

224 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:09:13am

re: #193 taxfreekiller

On Avanti

see

#1314
#1315
Overnight Open Thread
He says he is gone?
Got a feeling now that our Avanti has some involvement with ACORN, due to the way he post on that subject.

IMO he is not just exactly what he says he is, be very careful
The U.S. Justice Dept. is not in good hands just now.

Be prepared, be alert, think before you respond.

He's not gone. He just has work to do.

225 2-Drink Minimum  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:09:13am

Man, I am going to be so confused when I read the coming news headlines:
"Newest O-ama Tape Released"

226 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:09:21am

re: #220 VegasRick

Just some people out there who get their jollies stirring up a shitstorm on a blog. It takes all types, I suppose.

227 opinionated  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:09:33am

re: #191 MandyManners

I hope that everyone who refused to vote for McCain because he wasn't conservative enough is fucking happy now.

They are so happy that the same folks intend to run the 2012 candidates through such hoops that will then make them unelectable to the general public.

228 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:09:42am

re: #109 buzzsawmonkey

Domestic: Obama attempts to run his government as a populist, running "town hall" campaign-style events and appearing on television shows to "build support" for his programs instead of dealing directly with the people who must pass them.

Foreign: Obama attempts to run foreign policy as a populist, with TV addresses aimed at "the people" of foreign countries rather than recognizing that he must deal directly with the agendas and desires of the totalitarian heads of state who control what their people may do.

In short, he is avoiding his job and responsibilities in his domestic capacity, and trying to apply to foreign policy the very same end-run and responsibility-shirking tactics.

Addendum to Foreign:
He shows his utter lack of understanding of other peoples' cultures and political systems by this address. He shows a staggering arrogance because he seems to think that he's only got to speak and all fall for his silver tongue.
He ought to have a brief look into the reports during the Cold War - a stunt like that would have meant an immediate freeze on diplomatic relations, for 'interference into the inner affairs of a sovereign country'.
But PB0 is a-historical, and, I'm beginning to think, a-political, except for being a community organiser and member of the Chicago machine.

World doesn't run like that, PB0!

229 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:10:01am

re: #223 father_of_10

But spacejesus is so fun to kick around.

It's nice to have pets, isn't it?

230 Piglet-U93  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:10:09am

re: #168 Last Mohican

Some of us didn't vote for Obama or McCain, because, while they hated Obama, they felt that McCain wasn't quite conservative enough.

I hope they're happy now.

I always vote for the greater good. No one is perfect.

231 opnion  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:10:10am

Later, I am off to a Business lunch.Ummmm, pasta!

232 jcm  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:10:13am

re: #206 subsailor68

I wonder if Obama has now alienated the "Iranian-American" community here? I ask, because when we lived in Los Angeles, we lived in an area with a great number of folks who had left Iran. It was a mistake to call them Iranian. They would always correct people, saying "No! We are not Iranian. We are Persian."

Maybe that has changed, but these folks were adamant at the time.

Hasn't changed.

There is a big struggle going on in Iran. Persian vs. Islamic.
It presents opportunities like the Solidarity movement in Poland did.

If anyone in the Administration had the wit to use it. We could (should) support the Persians, and regime change would follow in due course.

233 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:10:20am

re: #226 Sharmuta

Just some people out there who get their jollies stirring up a shitstorm on a blog. It takes all types, I suppose.

They are both jackasses.

234 captdiggs  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:10:26am

Obama puckers up nicely...don't you think?

235 lurking faith  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:10:46am

re: #184 Sean

If you're replying to me, I was not referring to any theory you might have on JFK's and/or Kruschev's deaths.

What you posted above could be construed as approving the idea of a future assassination. Not cool.

236 MJ  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:10:48am

Obama and Israeli Leader Make Video Appeals to Iran

Invoking art, history and “the common humanity that binds us,” President Obama offered a “new day” in America’s relationship with Iran, using a videotaped message to make an unusual appeal directly to Iranians for a shift away from decades of confrontation.

The Israeli president, Shimon Peres, issued a similar videotaped outreach on Friday, appealing to “the noble Iranian people on behalf of the ancient Jewish people.”

Both messages suggested that there was a place for Iran as an equal in the international community. Mr. Obama warned Iran’s leaders that their country’s access to what he called its “rightful place in the community of nations” would not be advanced by threats or by “terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions.”

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Israel decided to give Iran the rope to hang the Jewish State along with Obama.

237 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:10:54am

re: #229 Sharmuta

It's nice to have pets, isn't it?

is Blue Cold our new pet troll? Or just a muttass we picked up off the street? See the Special Olympics thread

238 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:10:58am
So in this season of new beginnings I would like to speak clearly to Iran’s leaders... We seek instead engagement that is honest and grounded in mutual respect.

Question for President Obama: Do you "respect" Iran's current regime?

If your answer is "yes", please explain why, in 500 words or fewer. Thank you.

239 SFGoth  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:11:04am

Obama thinks Dinnerjacket's his pet chimp. We know how that relationship can end up.

240 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:11:05am

re: #130 Emerald

I just pray it doesn't take too long to repair the damage Obama does in the next four years.

We still haven't repaired the damage Carter did.

241 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:11:13am
242 dhg4  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:11:22am

re: #170 Lincolntf

I wonder if he expected/hoped Mahmoud to do it as a reciprocal gesture, unbidden, as thanks for the "conciliatory" address?

It sounds as if the administration thought that they had an agreement that Iranians have not followed through on.

243 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:11:29am

re: #130 Emerald

I just pray it doesn't take too long to repair the damage Obama does in the next four years.

What's the half-life of the products of a nuclear explosion?

244 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:11:39am

re: #234 captdiggs

Obama puckers up nicely...don't you think?

but he did not cover the spread. . .:)

245 Wishing  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:11:43am

re: #211 Kosh's Shadow

Soon, I think.

He is drafting the video message as we speak...

246 redheadredstate  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:11:46am

re: #221 Perplexed

Actually, Obama choked to death last November while trying to cram down as many waffles as he could in as short of time as he could. Video feeds were intercepted and between Disney's animatronics and Dreamworks, they've managed to convince the world that Obama is in charge when in fact it is a couple geeks arguing over the way the country should be led.

OK, lead me to the master computer. I've got some serious re-programming to do.

247 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:11:50am

Please note: I will NOT tolerate any comments suggesting "action" against Obama, and I especially will not tolerate comments saying "OMG! He's a sekrit Moslem!"

This is the only warning I'm going to give. Post a comment that falls into one of these categories and your account will be history.

248 subsailor68  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:12:01am

re: #232 jcm

Hasn't changed.

There is a big struggle going on in Iran. Persian vs. Islamic.
It presents opportunities like the Solidarity movement in Poland did.

If anyone in the Administration had the wit to use it. We could (should) support the Persians, and regime change would follow in due course.

Thanks jcm! I couldn't imagine that the folks I knew would have changed. And I really agree with ya about supporting the Persian community!

249 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:12:02am

re: #221 Perplexed

That sounds like some of the Bush Conspiracy Theories, only that one is intended to be a joke.

250 Lincolntf  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:12:15am

re: #242 dhg4

Impossible!

251 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:12:24am

re: #149 RaiderDan

A masterful speech, Neville Chamberlain would have been proud....

Thats a slur on Neville Chamberlain!

252 opinionated  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:12:33am

Before not voting for McCain, they wouldn't vote for Giuliani because he would perform abortions in the White House while dressed in drag or Romney because he would take instructions from Salt Lake City.

253 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:12:46am

re: #233 VegasRick

I do my best to ignore them. Sometimes extra special stupid comes out that just begs to be smacked down, and one just has to say something. But it's good to have a few pet trolls, I think.

254 father_of_10  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:12:50am

re: #229 Sharmuta

It's nice to have pets, isn't it?

Until they turn into raging chimpanzees and rip your face off. That is why it is so important to keep them in line. The proper discipline is important. Keeping them on chains in easy kicking distance is important.

255 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:12:53am

re: #248 subsailor68

Thanks jcm! I couldn't imagine that the folks I knew would have changed. And I really agree with ya about supporting the Persian community!

Persian women are easy on the eyes.

256 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:13:01am

re: #251 yma o hyd

Not really.

257 Dreader1962  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:13:17am

Charles - we should have a poll.

Barack Obama is best compared to the following historical figures:

Neville Chamberlain
Vidkun Quisling
Jimmy Carter
Roman Emperor Nero

Feel free to add any other candidates.

258 subsailor68  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:13:34am

re: #255 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Persian women are easy on the eyes.

Oh yeah! Absolutely drop-dead gorgeous.

259 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:13:45am

re: #241 buzzsawmonkey

Then let's elect no One next time.

He'd be perfect.

NEMO '12

260 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:14:19am

re: #251 yma o hyd

Thats a slur on Neville Chamberlain!

True. At least at the end, Chamberlain realized that he was wrong about Hitler.

261 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:14:25am

re: #255 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Persian women are easy on the eyes.

I've seen many whom I could firmly support.

262 alegrias  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:14:32am

It's embarassing to see our POTUS licking fascist goosesteppers' boots.

Our previous CIA Director Mike Hayden said Iran's official policy was to KILL AMERICANS in Iraq (and our allies everywhere, including in this hemisphere, with IEDs in Argentina for example)

Wanna bet Obama's good friend & mentor in matter moslem, Rashid Khalidi of the PLO wrote this crappy greeting to his mullah masters who pay for Palestinian Islamic Jihad and terrorist groups?

263 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:14:38am
264 opinionated  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:14:41am

re: #257 Dreader1962

Charles - we should have a poll.

Barack Obama is best compared to the following historical figures:

Neville Chamberlain
Vidkun Quisling
Jimmy Carter
Roman Emperor Nero

Feel free to add any other candidates.

The long term harm Obama will do makes those others forgettable.

265 Euler  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:14:44am

This gesture should concentrate Netanyahu's mind wonderfully.

266 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:15:23am

re: #230 Piglet-U93

I always vote for the greater good. No one is perfect.

Declining to vote because you don't think McCain is conservative enough is like declining to have surgery to have your cancer removed, because you really wish somebody would come up with a way to do surgery without that week of painful recovery afterward.

267 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:15:33am

re: #261 Occasional Reader

I've seen many whom I could firmly support.

Huh-huh. You said "firm."

268 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:15:36am

re: #257 Dreader1962

Charles - we should have a poll.

Barack Obama is best compared to the following historical figures:

Neville Chamberlain
Vidkun Quisling
Jimmy Carter
Roman Emperor Nero

Feel free to add any other candidates.

Ron Paul!

269 NY Nana  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:15:53am

re: #155 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Barry, you are a fucking idiot.

He isn't that good.

270 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:15:56am

re: #266 Last Mohican

Because there is ALWAYS someone worse.

271 SFGoth  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:16:02am

re: #255 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Persian women are easy on the eyes.

Many of them are indeed! Why do you think Purim is so much fun? Worst thing that ever happened to Persia was being invaded by the Muslim horde.

272 markx  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:16:03am

Here's what I think...

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I'll self-censor for you, Charles...and your welcome...

273 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:16:11am

re: #268 Killgore Trout

LOL

274 Tamron  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:16:19am

THE REAL AIG SCANDAL
By Eliot Spitzer
Tuesday, March 17, 2009

"Everybody is rushing to condemn AIG's bonuses, but this simple scandal is obscuring the real disgrace at the insurance giant: Why are AIG's counterparties getting paid back in full, to the tune of tens of billions of taxpayer dollars?

For the answer to this question, we need to go back to the very first decision to bail out AIG, made, we are told, by then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, then-New York Fed official Timothy Geithner, Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein, and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke last fall. Post-Lehman's collapse, they feared a systemic failure could be triggered by AIG's inability to pay the counterparties to all the sophisticated instruments AIG had sold. And who were AIG's trading partners? No shock here: Goldman, Bank of America, Merrill Lynch, UBS, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, Deutsche Bank, Barclays, and on it goes. So now we know for sure what we already surmised: The AIG bailout has been a way to hide an enormous second round of cash to the same group that had received TARP money already.

It all appears, once again, to be the same insiders protecting themselves against sharing the pain and risk of their own bad adventure. The payments to AIG's counterparties are justified with an appeal to the sanctity of contract. If AIG's contracts turned out to be shaky, the theory goes, then the whole edifice of the financial system would collapse.

But wait a moment, aren't we in the midst of reopening contracts all over the place to share the burden of this crisis? From raising taxes—income taxes to sales taxes—to properly reopening labor contracts, we are all being asked to pitch in and carry our share of the burden. Workers around the country are being asked to take pay cuts and accept shorter work weeks so that colleagues won't be laid off. Why can't Wall Street royalty shoulder some of the burden? Why did Goldman have to get back 100 cents on the dollar? Didn't we already give Goldman a $25 billion capital infusion, and aren't they sitting on more than $100 billion in cash? Haven't we been told recently that they are beginning to come back to fiscal stability? If that is so, couldn't they have accepted a discount, and couldn't they have agreed to certain conditions before the AIG dollars—that is, our dollars—flowed?

The appearance that this was all an inside job is overwhelming. AIG was nothing more than a conduit for huge capital flows to the same old suspects, with no reason or explanation.

So here are several questions that should be answered, in public, under oath, to clear the air:

---What was the precise conversation among Bernanke, Geithner, Paulson, and Blankfein that preceded the initial $80 billion grant?

---Was it already known who the counterparties were and what the exposure was for each of the counterparties?

---What did Goldman, and all the other counterparties, know about AIG's financial condition at the time they executed the swaps or other contracts? Had they done adequate due diligence to see whether they were buying real protection? And why shouldn't they bear a percentage of the risk of failure of their own counterparty?

---What is the deeper relationship between Goldman and AIG? Didn't they almost merge a few years ago but did not because Goldman couldn't get its arms around the black box that is AIG? If that is true, why should Goldman get bailed out? After all, they should have known as well as anybody that a big part of AIG's business model was not to pay on insurance it had issued.

---Why weren't the counterparties immediately and fully disclosed?

Failure to answer these questions will feed the populist rage that is metastasizing very quickly. And it will raise basic questions about the competence of those who are supposedly guiding this economic policy."


.

275 albusteve  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:16:21am

re: #265 Euler

This gesture should concentrate Netanyahu's mind wonderfully.

I would love to hear what Bibi is thinking right now

276 father_of_10  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:16:22am

re: #267 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Huh-huh. You said "firm."

firm yet soft?

277 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:16:22am

re: #263 buzzsawmonkey

Gotta find him first.

I'm guessing he's in the Caribbean somewhere, because Noman is an island.

278 Wishing  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:16:37am

re: #265 Euler

This gesture should concentrate Netanyahu's mind wonderfully.

Perez extended his time to form a government another two weeks. I guess Labor is being...stubborn.
Do you think it will go to Livni ?

279 Russkilitlover  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:16:55am

re: #257 Dreader1962

Charles - we should have a poll.

Barack Obama is best compared to the following historical figures:

Neville Chamberlain
Vidkun Quisling
Jimmy Carter
Roman Emperor Nero

He claims to be a multitasker, so add All Of The Above.

Feel free to add any other candidates.

280 SteveC  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:16:57am
As an aghast world — from China to Chicago and Chihuahua — watches, the circus-like U.S. political system seems to be declining into near chaos. Through it all, stock and financial markets are paralyzed.

There was a small article in Forbes magazine, from a Mexican Economist: "What the United States is doing (in economic policy) is the same as giving sugar to a diabetic child."

Jeebus.

281 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:17:03am

re: #257 Dreader1962

Charles - we should have a poll.

Barack Obama is best compared to the following historical figures:

Neville Chamberlain
Vidkun Quisling
Jimmy Carter
Roman Emperor Nero

Feel free to add any other candidates.

I voted for Pat Buchanan - the ballot was confusing!

282 Annar  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:17:14am

re: #202 Teacake!

Maybe he should be apologizing to the actual Persians for how Carter fucked things up for them

I doubt that Carter even knew who Ahura Mazda was much less how Islam screwed the Zoroastrians, in particular, and the Persians in general. If Obama wants to do something useful he should spend the seven days of the old style Naw Ruz festival calling out Iran for their persecution of the Baha'is, Zoroastrians and ethnic minorities in the Islamic republic.

283 opinionated  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:17:18am

re: #265 Euler

This gesture should concentrate Netanyahu's mind wonderfully.

Netanyahu is begging the Left on bended knee to join his Government.

Faith in Netanyahu may be misplaced.

284 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:17:53am

About Charles's warning- listen to the man, not just because it is his site, but because it makes logical sense-

I guess, because of my background, I do not really care what, if any religion, anyone is- his actions regarding other nations is driven by more than any one thing- there is a nexxus of factors at work here, the point is, his religious ties that were acknowledged were troubling- Wright and his ilk- documented, and addressed by dear leader himself, and for me, I do not need anything more than that to find him wanting as a leader.

Whatever else we do not know about his past, I am concerned enough about what IS known. . .and well, I am just a big believer in documentation and support for opinions that go beyond conspiracy theories- though I admit to being a total and UTTER X files fan. . .

285 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:18:03am
286 Boxy_brown  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:18:15am

How do I reconcile my citizenship with the certainty that this fool is going to wreck the United States? How do I be a "good American" when someone who was legitimately elected president seems hell bent on dragging the United States into the dirt?

287 kansas  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:18:27am

re: #257 Dreader1962

Charles - we should have a poll.

Barack Obama is best compared to the following historical figures:

Neville Chamberlain
Vidkun Quisling
Jimmy Carter
Roman Emperor Nero

Feel free to add any other candidates.

Chauncey Gardener

288 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:18:34am

OT: Galloway banned from The Great White North....
MP Galloway barred from Canada

Velshi said Galloway was deemed inadmissible to Canada due to national security concerns.

It was an "operational decision" by border security officials "based on a number of factors, not only those mentioned in the Sun piece," he said.

Such a decision could be overturned by ministerial order, but it is not warranted in this case, he said.

"We're going to uphold the law, not give special treatment to a street-corner Cromwell who brags about giving 'financial support' to Hamas, a terrorist organization banned in Canada," Velshi said.

289 father_of_10  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:18:53am

re: #286 Boxy_brown

How do I reconcile my citizenship with the certainty that this fool is going to wreck the United States? How do I be a "good American" when someone who was legitimately elected president seems hell bent on dragging the United States into the dirt?

Pitchforks are available at the feed store.

290 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:18:58am
291 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:19:01am

re: #257 Dreader1962

Charles - we should have a poll.

Barack Obama is best compared to the following historical figures:

Neville Chamberlain
Vidkun Quisling
Jimmy Carter
Roman Emperor Nero

Feel free to add any other candidates.

You need to throw in someone who exemplifies strong leadership, just to draw out the trolls. Then Charles can ban those accounts. Let's go with...Abraham Lincoln, since Obama liked to compare himself to him.

292 jcm  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:19:04am

re: #255 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Persian women are easy on the eyes.

I had a friend my age. Beautiful almost beyond words. Daughter of a pastor in a town in Iran.

Here father was executed by the local Republic Guard Mullah / Judge. The judge made her his 3rd wife. She died of unknown cases less than a year later.

Rabbit Bait sold a beautiful country and people into slavery. Obama is selling them out for another generation.

You have no idea the depth of rage this engenders in those who also know and love Persia.

293 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:19:30am

re: #282 Annar

I doubt that Carter even knew who Ahura Mazda was

"Ahura Mazda? I owned one of those when I got out of high school. Not a bad little car." - BArry 0

294 kansas  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:19:46am

Congressman:
I am shocked at the provisions in the bill that I voted for!

295 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:20:06am
296 rightside  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:20:11am

Rush is on fire.

Congress targetting individuals in concert with the white house.

297 lurking faith  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:20:34am

re: #266 Last Mohican

Declining to vote because you don't think McCain is conservative enough is like declining to have surgery to have your cancer removed, because you really wish somebody would come up with a way to do surgery without that week of painful recovery afterward.

I'd have said it was like declining to have the sugery because the surgery would only buy you an extra 5-15 years, depending on your general state of health. But I hear ya!

298 little boomer  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:20:37am

I understand this message came with a box set of Great American Movies.

299 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:20:47am

re: #294 kansas

Congressman:
I am shocked at the provisions in the bill that I voted for wrote!

FIFY

300 rightside  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:20:57am

re: #294 kansas

...and didn't read, either!

301 Boxy_brown  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:21:08am

re: #289 father_of_10

Pitchforks are available at the feed store.

I don't know that we have time for pitchforks. He is fucking up fast and furious.

302 Pupdawg  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:21:09am

re: #17 Honorary Yooper

O-shit, we elected a complete and total idiot as president.

Yep, that's what I've been saying since early in the campaign and Mr. T continues to prove the assertion. He is an idiot and deeply dense way beyond his years, current employment and apparent education.
Only a moron would criticize those inspirational Americans who excel beyond all odds in the Special Olympics. These men and women, boys and girls are National as well as International heroes without doubt! A complete totally insensitive moronic idiot would do this with many millions viewing the Tonight Show. Obviously, there was no teleprompter for him to parrot.
How he got through Harvard, I'll never know...never mind, I am fairly certain how.
Dude's an idiot!

303 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:21:10am

re: #293 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Ahura Mazda? I owned one of those when I got out of high school. Not a bad little car." - BArry 0


Is that the one with the rotary engine? The one is such a wankel.

304 redstateredneck  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:21:30am

I predict that Barack Obama will win the 2009 Fiskie in an unparalled landslide. He is a class unto himself.

305 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:21:33am

re: #298 little boomer

I understand this message came with a box set of Great American Movies.

They might be a little more offended if the DVDs pop up "Wrong Region".

306 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:21:34am

re: #295 buzzsawmonkey

I bet his had the Wanker rotary engine.

re: #303 ilzito guacamolito

Is that the one with the rotary engine? The one is such a wankel.

Arggh!

307 alegrias  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:21:36am

re: #286 Boxy_brown

How do I reconcile my citizenship with the certainty that this fool is going to wreck the United States? How do I be a "good American" when someone who was legitimately elected president seems hell bent on dragging the United States into the dirt?

* * * *
Work like hell to send a message at the ballot box in 2009-- a message of non-support, like beating democrats in Congress for starters.

308 Josephine  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:21:46am

This speech might have been alright if it had addressed only the people of Iran and if it had concluded with an exhortation to overthrow the religious leaders and replace them with a secular government and constitution (no sharia).

What message has President Obama just given Iranians who want freedom and democracy in Iran?

309 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:21:46am

re: #285 buzzsawmonkey

As I noted in #190 above: Obama is David Dinkins the Younger.

Hmm. I don't know if Dinkins actually hated New York City, though. He was merely inept.

310 albusteve  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:21:47am

the dog ate my rent...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

311 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:21:55am

Anyone else notice the awkward moment immediatelt after Leno asked Obama about the scariness of voiding valid contracts. I swear it looked like Lenos earpiece told him that that was a subject on which Obama would have to be prepped and that he should go to break (which he did). Very wierod!

312 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:22:27am

PIMF immediately

313 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:22:38am

Time for lunch. BBIAW

314 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:22:55am

re: #302 Pupdawg

Just because they are disabled doesn't mean they are not athletes. They ARE Olympians after all. I was telling Missus CN about that last night.

315 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:23:11am

re: #304 redstateredneck

I predict that Barack Obama will win the 2009 Fiskie in an unparalleled landslide. He is a class unto himself.

As much as I'd like to agree with you, I do believe that the Democratic-party dominated Congress and the Senate of the United States of America are viable candidates as well...

316 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:23:17am

re: #309 Occasional Reader

Hmm. I don't know if Dinkins actually hated New York City, though. He was merely inept.

I wonder why he called me Shirley so much?

317 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:23:20am

re: #305 Sharmuta

They might be a little more offended if the DVDs pop up "Wrong Region".

Or are in Hebrew.

318 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:23:20am

re: #256 ConservatismNow!

Not really.

Ok - it was a bit tongue-in-cheek.
But think of it like this: Chamberlain was in an unprecedented situation.
PB0 - if he's actually looked into some history books - isn't
He has the choice of supporting Israel and telling Iran to eff off, instead of trying to snuggle up to them.
Chamberlain was trying to prevent another war in Europe by any means he could, 24 years after then end of WWI - something all involved remembered vividly.

PB0 has not the faintest idea about war - visiting the troups (once!) in Iraq is not = experience, and as moonbat he hates the military anyway.

319 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:23:22am

re: #247 Charles

Thanks Charles. I'm pretty tired of that one too. And for the record, being Muslim does not necessarily make one evil, or even prone to support radicalism. I know some Muslim Iranian-Americans, for example, who will fly into a rage about the mullahs who are destroying their religion whenever given half a chance. I would tend to agree with Daniel Pipes, who says "radical Islam is the problem, moderate Islam is the solution." Although I would modify that to "moderate Islam could be the solution." Because moderate Islam these days is being outspent and outshouted to the point of near-invisibility.

That being the case, I don't know why Obama keeps lying about the fact that he once was a Muslim, during his childhood. It's slimy and evasive, I think. Tell the truth. Own your past. Make of it whatever you want.

320 alegrias  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:23:22am

re: #308 Josephine

This speech might have been alright if it had addressed only the people of Iran and if it had concluded with an exhortation to overthrow the religious leaders and replace them with a secular government and constitution (no sharia).

What message has President Obama just given Iranians who want freedom and democracy in Iran?

* * * *
I won, you lose?

321 Boxy_brown  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:23:28am

re: #307 alegrias

* * * *
Work like hell to send a message at the ballot box in 2009-- a message of non-support, like beating democrats in Congress for starters.

I worked like hell in 2008 to keep the fool out. That's the other end of the equation; this guy was elected legitimately. It's as if people want the country to fail.

322 Annar  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:23:35am

re: #304 redstateredneck

I predict that Barack Obama will win the 2009 Fiskie in an unparalled landslide. He is a class unto himself.

He may even get a life accomplishment award with less than a year of 'service.'

323 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:23:47am

re: #158 Piglet-U93

Why is it every time the TOTUS speaks I get the feeling he is still running for President?

Campaigning is all he knows.

324 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:23:47am

re: #287 kansas

Chauncey Gardener

No way... Chauncey was kind-hearted, humble, and his advice actually wound up making sense, even if accidentally. No comparison at all.

325 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:24:12am

re: #311 jamgarr

Anyone else notice the awkward moment immediatelt after Leno asked Obama about the scariness of voiding valid contracts. I swear it looked like Lenos earpiece told him that that was a subject on which Obama would have to be prepped and that he should go to break (which he did). Very wierod!

I guess that means there is not teleprompter for Jay's guests.

326 lurking faith  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:24:14am

re: #286 Boxy_brown

How do I reconcile my citizenship with the certainty that this fool is going to wreck the United States? How do I be a "good American" when someone who was legitimately elected president seems hell bent on dragging the United States into the dirt?

Fight his policies in any legitimate way available. Write to Congress. Get involved in local and/or state politics. Etc.

327 brookly red  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:24:24am

re: #309 Occasional Reader

Hmm. I don't know if Dinkins actually hated New York City, though. He was merely inept.

Agreed, not a hater just a hack.

328 father_of_10  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:24:29am

Our founding fathers were able to figure out what to do in regards to revolting from England. I think their advantage was that England was across the ocean and the colonies already were fairly autonomous in many ways. Currently, the federal government is so powerful and so invasive that any sort of revolution beyond the ballot box will be snuffed out pretty quick.

It's the ballot box.

329 rollingdivision  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:24:43am

He is overwhelmed by his narcissism into believing that his words will move the collective philosophy of the mad mullahs of the Iranian theocratic authoritarians. He is convincing me he is also delusional. So, no matter what the mullahs' reply to this act of national subjugation, Obama will interpret the reply as a success. This pleading has elevated to mullahs' status, will embolden them and make the world more dangerous. Other than this few concerns, good job.

330 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:24:55am

re: #304 redstateredneck

I predict that Barack Obama will win the 2009 Fiskie in an unparalled landslide. He is a class unto himself.

Might have to rename the Fiskie in his honor.

331 markx  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:24:58am

re: #304 redstateredneck

I predict that Barack Obama will win the 2009 Fiskie in an unparalled landslide. He is a class unto himself.

Yeah... he deserves a special, Lifetime Achivement Award.

332 Wm T Sherman  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:25:07am

Instead of throwing shoes, we can throw knee-pads.

I'm serious.

333 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:25:12am

re: #290 buzzsawmonkey

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."

--moonbats, until last November

I recently saw a bumper sticker that said "I love my country, but I fear my government." I think it was probably a leftover moonbat mating call from before the election. But I can agree with that sentiment now.

334 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:25:19am
335 little boomer  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:25:55am

I'm late to the joke- does the first T in TOTUS stand for teleprompter?

336 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:26:10am

re: #317 Kosh's Shadow

Or are in Hebrew.

Or are the collected works of Speilberg, Reiner, Brooks. . .

337 alegrias  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:26:37am

re: #321 Boxy_brown

I worked like hell in 2008 to keep the fool out. That's the other end of the equation; this guy was elected legitimately. It's as if people want the country to fail.

* * * *
Thank you for working so hard.

Yes, Pres. Obama was elected to bring change. All sorts of change.

Spare me this change--
He's begging, not leading.

338 Edouard  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:26:53am

In The Prince, Machiavelli's three most important goals of political leadership were security, prosperity, and staying in power.

If a prince doesn't know how to do the 1st and 2nd, the 3rd will not follow.

The above is my primary reassurance about the Obama administration.

/spit on this message to Iran

339 pat  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:27:00am

Why doesn't he just apologize for having an embassy there in 1979?

340 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:27:24am

re: #328 father_of_10

It's the ballot box.

Hopefully you're right. However, if in the unlikely scenario that a civil war erupted, I doubt all the military would fall in with the left, given the left's hatred of them.

341 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:27:28am

re: #321 Boxy_brown

I worked like hell in 2008 to keep the fool out. That's the other end of the equation; this guy was elected legitimately. It's as if people want the country to fail.

You were working against an ideal, not a person- it will be easier now. . .we have on the ground examples of incompetent decisions and behavior. . .

342 Josephine  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:27:41am

re: #320 alegrias

* * * *
I won, you lose?

Bingo.

/President Bingo has a certain ring to it.

343 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:27:42am

re: #336 DisturbedEma

Or are the collected works of Speilberg, Reiner, Brooks. . .

The 0 will probably send Kim Jong Il the unrated version of Team America: World Police

344 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:27:45am

re: #204 jcm


Presidential Message: Nowruz

I send greetings to Iranian Americans observing Nowruz.

GEORGE W. BUSH

Huge, massive difference

345 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:27:54am

re: #329 rollingdivision

He is overwhelmed by his narcissism into believing that his words will move the collective philosophy of the mad mullahs of the Iranian theocratic authoritarians. He is convincing me he is also delusional. So, no matter what the mullahs' reply to this act of national subjugation, Obama will interpret the reply as a success. This pleading has elevated to mullahs' status, will embolden them and make the world more dangerous. Other than this few concerns, good job.

I pretty much agree. He honestly thinks he can change the world with nothing but his charisma. He's not only delusional, he's dangerously so.

346 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:28:06am

re: #304 redstateredneck

I predict that Barack Obama will win the 2009 Fiskie in an unparalled landslide. He is a class unto himself.

For the decade, mun, for the decade!

347 Boxy_brown  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:28:22am

re: #326 lurking faith

Fight his policies in any legitimate way available. Write to Congress. Get involved in local and/or state politics. Etc.

I guess the upside of Obamanomics is that anyone who worked with the evil military industrial complex or made "excessive profits" will soon be unemployed and have enough time to devote to picking up the pieces.

348 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:28:29am

re: #324 Occasional Reader

No way... Chauncey was kind-hearted, humble, and his advice actually wound up making sense, even if accidentally. No comparison at all.

And if Obama were to meet Chauncey Gardner, he'd probably make fun of him (as we now know).

349 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:28:39am

re: #345 Sharmuta

I pretty much agree. He honestly thinks he can change the world with nothing but his charisma. He's not only delusional, he's dangerously so.

reality will p'wn him. . .and us along with him. . .

350 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:28:40am

re: #322 Annar

He may even get a life accomplishment award with less than a year of 'service.'

Well, schools were already being renamed after him, before he even took office. I have no doubt that many Americans already would have voted him the best president of all time, before he even took office.

351 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:28:41am

re: #340 Leonidas Hoplite

Hopefully you're right. However, if in the unlikely scenario that a civil war erupted, I doubt all the military would fall in with the left, given the left's hatred of them.

Be careful with that one. Standing armies are inclined to be Praetorian in outlook.

352 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:28:43am
353 father_of_10  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:28:45am

re: #344 Alouette

Huge, massive difference

Good catch.

354 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:28:48am

I specifically entered the post 1-20-09 era with the attitude that I would try my hardest to believe that Obama would moderate his most radical ambitions. Within 2 months I have to conclude the opposite. I've never been a member of the Chicken Little Brigade but I may have to reconsider. I am afraid for our future.

355 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:29:16am

re: #346 yma o hyd

For the decade, mun, for the decade!

lifetime achievment. . .

356 Russkilitlover  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:29:20am

re: #345 Sharmuta

I pretty much agree. He honestly thinks he can change the world with nothing but his charisma. He's not only delusional, he's dangerously so.

And the world is beginning to wonder what the hell is in the American White House.

See my link at #154.

357 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:29:20am

re: #329 rollingdivision

He is overwhelmed by his narcissism

This is true about every aspect of his governance.

358 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:29:49am

re: #285 buzzsawmonkey

As I noted in #190 above: Obama is David Dinkins the Younger.

you have to admit, Dinkins Donuts aren't half-bad.

359 Colonel Panik  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:29:57am

re: #333 Last Mohican

I recently saw a bumper sticker that said "I love my country, but I fear my government." I think it was probably a leftover moonbat mating call from before the election. But I can agree with that sentiment now.

That sticker was very popular with conservatives during the Clinton years.
I suppose it will be making a comeback.

360 Joan Not of Arc  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:30:07am

First, I want multiculturalist jackasses to explain what Nowruz is. Then, I want to hear why the US is normalising relations with one of the worst human-rights abusers in the world (has anyone forgotten Zehra Kazemi?). Finally, I want to hear why someone voted for a man who is throwing his country off the deep end.

361 Piglet-U93  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:30:10am

re: #266 Last Mohican

Declining to vote because you don't think McCain is conservative enough is like declining to have surgery to have your cancer removed, because you really wish somebody would come up with a way to do surgery without that week of painful recovery afterward.

McCain was the greater good and I voted for him.

362 kansas  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:30:10am

re: #324 Occasional Reader

No way... Chauncey was kind-hearted, humble, and his advice actually wound up making sense, even if accidentally. No comparison at all.

Yeah. Sorry.

363 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:30:26am

re: #335 little boomer

I'm late to the joke- does the first T in TOTUS stand for teleprompter?

Yep.

364 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:30:31am

re: #358 Occasional Reader

you have to admit, Dinkins Donuts aren't half-bad.

Yes, it's Bloomberg Donuts you don't want to eat...

365 Boxy_brown  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:30:36am

re: #341 DisturbedEma

.we have on the ground examples of incompetent decisions and behavior. . .

Hope it sinks in with enough people.

366 Colonel Panik  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:31:12am

re: #343 Kosh's Shadow

The 0 will probably send Kim Jong Il the unrated version of Team America: World Police

Dear Kim,
Don't be ronery!

367 little boomer  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:31:17am

re: #363 MandyManners

Thanks.

368 alegrias  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:31:18am

re: #360 Joan Not of Arc

First, I want multiculturalist jackasses to explain what Nowruz is. Then, I want to hear why the US is normalising relations with one of the worst human-rights abusers in the world (has anyone forgotten Zehra Kazemi?). Finally, I want to hear why someone voted for a man who is throwing his country off the deep end.

* * * *
For those answers, go someplace else.

369 Land Shark  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:31:25am

Obama is so dumb he doesn't realize the Iranian Americans contributing to our country fled that medieval death worshiping regime he's now praising.

Hey, Dumbama, why don't you send them a red reset button, like you did with the Russians? It worked so well with them, didn't it? Just make sure you someone who actually speaks the language check it out. Is that too much to ask?

What have you assholes who voted for this idiot done to our country?

370 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:31:32am

re: #352 buzzsawmonkey

A con man should never believe his own hype.

Atahaulpa learned that lesson the hard way.

371 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:31:33am

re: #345 Sharmuta

I pretty much agree. He honestly thinks he can change the world with nothing but his charisma. He's not only delusional, he's dangerously so.


A narcissist believes that those who refuse to go along with his program should be utterly crushed.

372 Tamron  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:31:42am
On Avanti

Got a feeling now that our Avanti has some involvement with ACORN, due to the way he post on that subject. IMO he is not just exactly what he says he is, be very careful


--Am I the only one to think that it's not impossible for Obama hisself to be an ACORN mole inside LGF?

It certainly fits his covert little brain...
.

373 pink freud  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:31:57am

Rush is on fire. Here's a list of stations that stream.

374 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:31:57am

re: #335 little boomer

I'm late to the joke- does the first T in TOTUS stand for teleprompter?

Yes.

375 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:31:58am

re: #352 buzzsawmonkey

A con man should never believe his own hype.

Over 3 1/2 years to go.

376 SteveC  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:32:17am

re: #342 Josephine

President Bingo has a certain ring to it.

Hello, Vinny. It's your Uncle Bingo. Time to pay the check! --- Joker, Batman

377 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:32:25am

president obama's daily press conference

"i am still president and you are still f'd."

378 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:32:29am

re: #370 Occasional Reader

Atahaulpa learned that lesson the hard way.

Whoops, "Atahualpa". PIMF

379 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:32:38am

re: #354 jamgarr

Yeah, there was a lot of hope that he wasn't really the racist anti-American, left-wing extremist that he had made himself out to be throughout his political career. That he was just a Hillary-esque political shape-changer, who would say whatever it took to please whatever constituency he was currently courting, but that ultimately he'd rise to the occasion and act responsibly when he assumed office.

Oh well.

380 yesandno  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:32:42am

re: #288 Killgore Trout

OT: Galloway banned from The Great White North....
MP Galloway barred from Canada

Oh...and I thought he would be banned because of hate speech............

381 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:32:58am

re: #373 pink freud

Rush is on fire. Here's a list of stations that stream.

He's inciting violence! He must be silenced!

/

382 alegrias  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:33:13am

re: #378 Occasional Reader

Whoops, "Atahualpa". PIMF

* * **
Atahualpa Yupanqui!

383 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:33:15am

Face it folks, we've elected a fool for President.

He's like a male version of Oprah Winfrey, except that Oprah probably has a little bit more sense.

384 Russkilitlover  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:33:44am

re: #373 pink freud

Rush is on fire. Here's a list of stations that stream.

What's he saying? I can't stream at work.

385 Colonel Panik  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:33:45am

re: #380 yesandno

Oh...and I thought he would be banned because of hate speech............

Canada to Galloway: "Take off, eh!"

386 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:33:50am

re: #375 Sharmuta

Over 3 1/2 years to go.

Can we do a "Beach Resign" sort of like Zombie's "Beach Impeach"?

387 Piglet-U93  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:33:52am

re: #335 little boomer

I'm late to the joke- does the first T in TOTUS stand for teleprompter?

Yes, Ding!

388 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:34:00am

Nowruz Greeting we probably won't hear:

"Happy New Year Camelfuckers, and Eid some of this!"

389 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:34:10am

re: #383 Ringo the Gringo

Face it folks, we've elected a fool for President.

He's like a male version of Oprah Winfrey, except that Oprah probably has a little bit more sense.

he's not a fool, he is deliberate in everything he does. he is a very dangerous man with a very dangerous agenda.

390 Colonel Panik  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:34:10am

re: #383 Ringo the Gringo

Face it folks, we've elected a fool for President.

He's like a male version of Oprah Winfrey, except that Oprah probably has a little bit more sense.

Barak Oprahbama

391 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:34:15am

re: #383 Ringo the Gringo

Face it folks, we've elected a fool for President.

He's like a male version of Oprah Winfrey, except that Oprah probably has a little bit more sense.

Say what you will about her, Oprah is nobody's fool.

392 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:34:22am
393 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:34:22am

Did Obama come up with this idea on his own? Or is this the collective idiocy of the left?
Perhaps he needs to rent The Terminator
'They can't be bargained with they can't be reasoned with, they don't feel pity or remorse, and they absolutely will not stop, ever.......'

394 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:34:24am

re: #354 jamgarr

I specifically entered the post 1-20-09 era with the attitude that I would try my hardest to believe that Obama would moderate his most radical ambitions. Within 2 months I have to conclude the opposite. I've never been a member of the Chicken Little Brigade but I may have to reconsider. I am afraid for our future.

I also was trying to hope he'd be better, but he has been worse than I expected. I thought he'd keep pushing Israel for "concessions", but it looks like he's going to insist on them recognizing a paliterrorist state:

One official told me it was just "childish". When Netanyahu comes for a visit, he might be asked to make a choice. The price for press availability with President Obama will be a commitment to say the words "two", "state" and "solution" in the same sentense.


But no words from the palis on stopping terrorism.

395 KansasMom  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:34:31am

“The children of Adam are limbs to each other, having been created of one essence.”

This of course, refers to the "People of the Book" which are Jews, Christians and Muslims. It excludes everyone else, including the Bahais and Zoroastrians in Iran. And anymore, its been argued by mullahs that Jews do not deserve that "People of the Book" label.

Not exactly a good way to prove his point that we are somehow connected to each other and should make nice.

396 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:35:04am

re: #382 alegrias

* * **
Atahualpa Yupanqui!

And don't forget his chubby, comical little son, Spanqui.

397 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:35:33am
398 yesandno  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:35:39am

re: #335 little boomer

I'm late to the joke- does the first T in TOTUS stand for teleprompter?

Yup.....fits it to a T!

399 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:35:39am

re: #359 Colonel Panik

That sticker was very popular with conservatives during the Clinton years.
I suppose it will be making a comeback.

If we could somehow replace the rest of our eight years of Obama with eight more years of Bill Clinton, at this point, I'd hang portrait of Bubba in my living room, and have a celebration party that would last at least a week. In fact, I think I'd sooner make Bill Clinton president for life than accept eight more years of Obama. We are really in serious, serious trouble.

400 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:35:44am

re: #389 phoenixgirl

he's not a fool, he is deliberate in everything he does. he is a very dangerous man with a very dangerous agenda.

You're right. Obama is part Oprah Winfrey and part Saul Alinsky.

Very dangerous indeed.

401 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:36:00am

re: #379 Last Mohican

Yeah, there was a lot of hope that he wasn't really the racist anti-American, left-wing extremist that he had made himself out to be throughout his political career. That he was just a Hillary-esque political shape-changer, who would say whatever it took to please whatever constituency he was currently courting, but that ultimately he'd rise to the occasion and act responsibly when he assumed office.

Oh well.


It's not that I thought that, but I thought that he would be politically savvy enough not to go "all-in" in his first 60 days. Most savvy politicians try their damndest to guard their warehouse of political capital - Obama is betting it all on one roll of the dice.

402 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:36:10am

re: #396 Occasional Reader

And don't forget his chubby, comical little son, Spanqui.

Where's Buqwheat? ..............Oh wait!

403 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:36:19am

re: #375 Sharmuta

Over 3 1/2 years to go.

1402 Days, 01 Hours, 23 Minutes, 34 Seconds

404 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:36:26am

Lunch break is over. Back to work.

405 Josephine  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:36:39am

re: #360 Joan Not of Arc

Since she was Canadian, does President Obama even know who she was?

Zahra Kazemi

406 NukeAtomrod  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:36:53am

Did Obama just surrender? I think he did. War on terror over. Crap.

407 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:37:12am

re: #403 MandyManners

I like the idea of that site, but I can't make it part of my internet habits. Because I think it's just setting me up for a massive letdown in 2012.

408 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:37:15am

re: #393 VioletTiger

Did Obama come up with this idea on his own? Or is this the collective idiocy of the left?
Perhaps he needs to rent The Terminator
'They can't be bargained with they can't be reasoned with, they don't feel pity or remorse, and they absolutely will not stop, ever.......'

I love the quote when John is being interrogated by the police. "That's what he does. That's all he does."

409 splat  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:37:22am

This isn't the right approach.. based on the other great successes of this administration, rebuilding the banking system and saving the economy, we should just give Iran $170 billion and ask them to be our friends. I'm sure that policy will work perfectly !

410 Brees  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:37:27am

Sounds like Prez Hopenchange has nooooo problem with Israel (the Joos) slaughtered by Iran's nuclear weapons.

Or done by other psycho terrorist countries.

411 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:37:29am

re: #308 Josephine

This speech might have been alright if it had addressed only the people of Iran and if it had concluded with an exhortation to overthrow the religious leaders and replace them with a secular government and constitution (no sharia).

What message has President Obama just given Iranians who want freedom and democracy in Iran?

you're right,
o has just shown the iranians who seek freedom from this hideous oppressive regime that he doesn't even notice them.

412 MJ  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:37:40am

Apparently, Obama is getting his advice on Iran from Roger Cohen at the NYT.

413 subsailor68  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:37:41am

Well all, must go. The vet will be here in about an hour to put down our 13 year old dog, Falstaff.

We got Falstaff to be a pal for our other big dog, Henry. Over the years, Falstaff has proved to be one of the best dogs we've ever had. He never complained; he was always in a wonderful mood, with his tail wagging constantly.

When he was diagnosed with an inoperable tumor, we decided to let him live as long as he wasn't in pain. In the last couple of weeks, we've seen him lose his eyesight, his sense of smell, and - finally - his appetite. It's time.

Thank heavens we have a vet who is willing to come to the house. It would have broken my heart completely to have to take Falstaff away from the place he loves, and the companionship of his friend Henry, and his family.

Hope everyone here has an absolutely wonderful weekend!

414 brookly red  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:37:47am

re: #371 MandyManners

A narcissist believes that those who refuse to go along with his program should be utterly crushed.

Does that extend to other countrys ?

415 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:37:52am
416 Piglet-U93  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:37:54am

re: #397 buzzsawmonkey

Maybe Obama can make nice with the Iranians by sending them a DVD of "The Mark of Zoroaster."

If so, he better get the region code right this time or there will be hell to pay.
Please add 300 to the list, got to have that Persian culture covered.

417 Soona'  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:38:13am

re: #351 unreconstructed rebel

Be careful with that one. Standing armies are inclined to be Praetorian in outlook.

Perhaps some of the ambitious generals and their underlings, but for the most part, I think many in our military would side with leaders that stand closer to the US Constitution. They would honor their oath.

418 Dreader1962  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:38:18am

re: #318 yma o hyd

I fully understand this, but Chamberlain absolutely misread Hitler - this is why I included him. The list of names are not all alike in their approach or even their culpability. Someone selecting Chamberlain in the poll I suggested would be implying that while Obama's heart is in the right place, he is approaching a dangerous situation with too much optimism and naivete.

419 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:38:23am

re: #385 Colonel Panik

Canada to Galloway: "Take off, eh!"

Hoser.


420 Colonel Panik  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:38:46am

re: #391 Sharmuta

Say what you will about her, Oprah is nobody's fool.

She may be nobody's fool but she's fooled a lot of people.

I "deeespise" her, as Ugarte would say.

421 Brees  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:38:56am

Violet Tiger......

You are SO spot on with that quote from The Terminator

422 Van Helsing  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:38:59am

re: #413 subsailor68

That is a hard thing to do.
Sympathy and good thoughts to you.

423 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:39:07am

re: #413 subsailor68


Be strong.

424 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:39:13am

re: #318 yma o hyd

I'm trying to think of a historical situation, but yeah. I think the only situation that could possibly apply would be Europe dealing with Napoleon. The only way to deal with Napoleon was to go to war.

425 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:39:16am

re: #369 Land Shark

Obama is so dumb he doesn't realize the Iranian Americans contributing to our country fled that medieval death worshiping regime he's now praising.

Hey, Dumbama, why don't you send them a red reset button, like you did with the Russians? It worked so well with them, didn't it? Just make sure you someone who actually speaks the language check it out. Is that too much to ask?

What have you assholes who voted for this idiot done to our country?

He's going to send Iran a button to launch a new relationship.

426 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:39:29am
427 pink freud  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:39:42am

re: #384 Russkilitlover

What's he saying? I can't stream at work.

He played a clip of Plain (spoken whole holding Trig) speaking to a group a couple of months ago about Special Olympics and special needs kids and how lucky she was to have Trig. She spoke of feeling like an hour-glass when Trig was born; all of her fears emptied out as her heart filled with love for him.

Rush played the speech to contrast what was said last night by 0bama.

Now he is on about Getiner, AIG, Congress members, etc. "I detest these people." "Acting as potentates with limitless power"

428 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:40:03am

re: #393 VioletTiger

Perhaps he needs to rent The Terminator

Maybe he can ask Gordon Brown to FedEx him back that one DVD? (Brown can't use it anyway, so why not.)

429 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:40:09am

re: #394 Kosh's Shadow

But no words from the palis on stopping terrorism.

That is fucking unbelievable.
Who do these bastards think they are?

I hope Bibi will not visit Washington under those circumstances.
Gabi Ashkenazi's visit would certainly have shown him how the wind blows.

430 Soona'  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:40:32am

re: #389 phoenixgirl

he's not a fool, he is deliberate in everything he does. he is a very dangerous man with a very dangerous agenda.

I agree. We should never underestimate this tyrant wannabe.

431 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:40:32am

re: #407 Last Mohican

I like the idea of that site, but I can't make it part of my internet habits. Because I think it's just setting me up for a massive letdown in 2012.

Courage.

432 JohnAdams  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:40:33am

re: #399 Last Mohican

If we could somehow replace the rest of our eight years of Obama with eight more years of Bill Clinton, at this point, I'd hang portrait of Bubba in my living room, and have a celebration party that would last at least a week. In fact, I think I'd sooner make Bill Clinton president for life than accept eight more years of Obama. We are really in serious, serious trouble.

I remember saying the same thing about 8 months ago, during the "oh shit" moment of the campaign when I knew Obama was unstoppable. Bill could turn the White House into a whorehouse as far as I'm concerned.

433 SummerSong  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:40:38am

Worst President Ever.

434 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:40:43am

re: #413 subsailor68

Take care, subsailor.

435 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:40:46am

re: #412 MJ

Apparently, Obama is getting his advice on Iran from Roger Cohen at the NYT.

Would it be wrong to hope the NYT follows, as soon as possible, the Seattle Post Intelligencer into the ashcan of failed overtly liberal newspapers?

436 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:40:50am

Note to Obama:

It's not speak softly softly and bury your big stick!

437 Van Helsing  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:40:55am

re: #426 Iron Fist

It took Jimmy Carter 444 days to abjectly destroy American "face" around the world, and we are still paying the price of his failures.

I despise Jimmy Carter.

438 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:40:56am

re: #413 subsailor68

My condolences. You're doing the right thing, but it must be hard.

439 Kobalt  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:41:04am

re: #85 opnion

What innovations have been produced by Iranian culture? They have difficulty refining their on crude oil.
The Ancient Persian Culture was pone thing, but since forced conversion to Islam, innovation has been stagnant.

Exactly, what about a contribution given to the world LESS than 1,000 years ago? NOTHING! because they are still stuck in the MIDDLE AGES!

440 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:41:17am

softly

441 Annar  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:41:28am

re: #343 Kosh's Shadow

The 0 will probably send Kim Jong Il the unrated version of Team America: World Police

Hardly, he'll apologize and offer to turn over the producer and director as a gest of good will and promise to read the DPRK news every day.

442 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:41:37am

re: #409 splat

This isn't the right approach.. based on the other great successes of this administration, rebuilding the banking system and saving the economy, we should just give Iran $170 billion and ask them to be our friends. I'm sure that policy will work perfectly !

Remember that Biden wanted to give them $200,000,000.00 after 9-11.

443 scrubjay  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:42:06am

I still am stunned by how many Americans voted for this empty suit and by how many are so detached that that they don't even care what is happening. Our public education system has really done a lot of damage to the level of political understanding. I am worried that we may be close to the tipping point where it is only bread and circuses that the voters care about.

444 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:42:07am

re: #428 Occasional Reader

Maybe he can ask Gordon Brown to FedEx him back that one DVD? (Brown can't use it anyway, so why not.)


Was that one of the ones he gave him? He should have watched it himself.

Wait until his teleprompter goes Skynet on him.....

445 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:42:09am

Interesting. My strike button didn't work.

446 MJ  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:42:27am
There are two main differences between Bush’s Muslim outreach and Obama’s ambidirectional variety. First, as a man in whose life faith plays a central role, Bush could simply appeal to Muslims as members of an Abrahamic religion. He didn’t gild the lily, as Obama does, by condescending to one “great culture” after another, and citing the universal peace dreams of tyrants. Second, Bush never thought embracing the world’s peaceful Muslims was a substitute for threatening, or using, force against the world’s less peaceful Muslims. He knew that saying nice things was less important than doing necessary things. When it comes to Iran, there’s no indication that Obama sees a difference between the two.

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

447 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:42:37am

re: #414 brookly red

Does that extend to other countrys ?

Look what he's done to Great Britain so far. Major-league dissing. Oh, and Brazil.

448 Piglet-U93  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:42:47am

re: #403 MandyManners

1402 Days, 01 Hours, 23 Minutes, 34 Seconds

Too many 3am's for my comfort. Although, plenty enough time for developing the new (in*)voluntary uniformed civilian army.

*only a "fill out the details" amendment moment away.

449 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:42:54am

re: #399 Last Mohican

If we could somehow replace the rest of our eight years of Obama with eight more years of Bill Clinton, at this point, I'd hang portrait of Bubba in my living room, and have a celebration party that would last at least a week. In fact, I think I'd sooner make Bill Clinton president for life than accept eight more years of Obama. We are really in serious, serious trouble.

Clinton, at least, knew when he was being had; he clearly blames Arafat for the lack of peace with Israel.
And he didn't want to wreck the country. Maybe only because he loves power and that would have lessened his power, but I'd prefer that to the ideologue ruining the country to [dis]prove his theories.

450 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:42:56am

re: #433 SummerSong

Worst President Ever.

Buchanan still retains that distinction, but O seems to wants to make sure it is his, and as quick as is possible.

451 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:43:08am

re: #413 subsailor68

{subsailor}
So sorry about your furbaby.

452 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:43:13am

re: #401 jamgarr

It's not that I thought that, but I thought that he would be politically savvy enough not to go "all-in" in his first 60 days. Most savvy politicians try their damndest to guard their warehouse of political capital - Obama is betting it all on one roll of the dice.


Yes - and I am getting this feeling as if he's driven, as if he's trying to accomplish as much of his plans in the shortest possible time, I don't know why.
Its decidedly odd.

453 KansasMom  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:43:23am

re: #413 subsailor68

So sorry to hear about Falstaff.

454 Bill Dalasio  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:43:36am

Maybe it's me, but I just can't seem to wrap my head around the sort of thinking that leads to this kind of approach. The administration has been dismissive of our allies (Britain, Poland, Czech Republic, Colombia), threatened trade wars with our largest creditor, yet sees fit to kowtow to an oppressive dictatorship he himself dismissed as "tiny" in the election. Why would you possibly reward your enemies and punish your friends?

455 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:43:40am

re: #420 Colonel Panik

She may be nobody's fool but she's fooled a lot of people.

I "deeespise" her, as Ugarte would say.

She's one of the reasons our nation is filled with muddle-headed morons.

456 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:44:06am

re: #413 subsailor68

Well all, must go. The vet will be here in about an hour to put down our 13 year old dog, Falstaff.

We got Falstaff to be a pal for our other big dog, Henry. Over the years, Falstaff has proved to be one of the best dogs we've ever had. He never complained; he was always in a wonderful mood, with his tail wagging constantly.

When he was diagnosed with an inoperable tumor, we decided to let him live as long as he wasn't in pain. In the last couple of weeks, we've seen him lose his eyesight, his sense of smell, and - finally - his appetite. It's time.

Thank heavens we have a vet who is willing to come to the house. It would have broken my heart completely to have to take Falstaff away from the place he loves, and the companionship of his friend Henry, and his family.

Hope everyone here has an absolutely wonderful weekend!

I'm sorry to hear this. Dogs are such great companions.

457 Last Mohican  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:44:09am

re: #431 MandyManners

Courage.

In an effort to find a way out of the hopeless view of the world that I've acquired since the election, I'm trying to set my sights on more realistic goals. In the 2008 election, about 80% of American Jews voted for this Jew-hating nightmare of a president -- the same percentage who voted for Kerry, a politician who wasn't exactly my favorite, but at least he wasn't a member of an anti-Jewish hate group.

If less than 80% of Jews vote for Obama in 2012, I'll consider that encouraging. If the number is still 80%, I'm not sure how I'll handle it.

458 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:44:24am

re: #445 jamgarr

Interesting. My strike button didn't work.

Strike buttons only work on liberal computers.

459 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:44:28am

re: #445 jamgarr

Interesting. My strike button didn't work.

Neither does Obama's

460 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:44:30am

oprah says, "burn your candles"

461 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:44:50am

re: #429 yma o hyd

That is fucking unbelievable.
Who do these bastards think they are?

I hope Bibi will not visit Washington under those circumstances.
Gabi Ashkenazi's visit would certainly have shown him how the wind blows.

Ashkenazi was treated like SHIT this week.

462 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:45:02am

re: #405 Josephine

Since she was Canadian, does President Obama even know who she was?

Zahra Kazemi

Does he even know who the President of Canada is?
/

463 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:45:07am

re: #458 Walter L. Newton

Strike buttons only work on liberal computers.

Maybe we should get an "informational picket" button?

464 Russkilitlover  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:45:21am

re: #413 subsailor68

(((((subsailor68)))))

465 SlartyBartfast  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:45:21am

re: #413 subsailor68

Couple of links for you:

Kipling's "The Power of the Dog" and George Grahm Vest's "Trubute to the Dog".

466 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:45:41am

re: #413 subsailor68

((((((subsailor))))))

467 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:46:05am

((((subsailor68))))) (((((falstaff))))

468 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:46:06am

re: #427 pink freud

He played a clip of Plain (spoken whole holding Trig) speaking to a group a couple of months ago about Special Olympics and special needs kids and how lucky she was to have Trig. She spoke of feeling like an hour-glass when Trig was born; all of her fears emptied out as her heart filled with love for him.

Rush played the speech to contrast what was said last night by 0bama.

Now he is on about Getiner, AIG, Congress members, etc. "I detest these people." "Acting as potentates with limitless power"

i heard the clip of sarah.
she is such a real person. and a class act.
now let people contrast her w/ this fcking dope, mucking up everything.
all the assholes who voted for o should be hanging their heads in shame.

469 Russkilitlover  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:46:27am

re: #427 pink freud

Thanks. Wish I could hear him. Hope some Republican somewhere hears him.

470 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:46:32am

re: #413 subsailor68

Well all, must go. The vet will be here in about an hour to put down our 13 year old dog, Falstaff.

We got Falstaff to be a pal for our other big dog, Henry. Over the years, Falstaff has proved to be one of the best dogs we've ever had. He never complained; he was always in a wonderful mood, with his tail wagging constantly.

When he was diagnosed with an inoperable tumor, we decided to let him live as long as he wasn't in pain. In the last couple of weeks, we've seen him lose his eyesight, his sense of smell, and - finally - his appetite. It's time.

Thank heavens we have a vet who is willing to come to the house. It would have broken my heart completely to have to take Falstaff away from the place he loves, and the companionship of his friend Henry, and his family.

Hope everyone here has an absolutely wonderful weekend!

{subsailor68} - I am so very sorry!
This is the hardest decision one has to make - but make it one must.
Prayers for you and your family, and I'm sure my Big Dog will be greeting Falstaff at the foot of the Rainbow Bridge, where they will be playing and where they're all happy and waiting for us to finally arrive.

Prayers for you all!

471 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:46:38am

re: #432 JohnAdams

I remember saying the same thing about 8 months ago, during the "oh shit" moment of the campaign when I knew Obama was unstoppable. Bill could turn the White House into a whorehouse as far as I'm concerned.

That would be better than turning the White House into a place of surrender.

472 Lee Coller  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:46:44am

Not even Jimmy Carter was this stupid.

473 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:46:55am

biab

474 DaddyG  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:46:57am

How's Obama gonna handle Iran when Kumbayah turns into Boombayah?

475 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:47:02am

re: #413 subsailor68

Up-ding for Falstaff!

((((((subsailor))))))

476 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:47:09am

re: #463 jamgarr

Maybe we should get an "informational picket" button?

With big paper mache' puppets!

477 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:47:17am

re: #474 DaddyG

How's Obama gonna handle Iran when Kumbayah turns into Boombayah?

he'll blame bush

478 brookly red  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:47:23am

re: #447 MandyManners

Look what he's done to Great Britain so far. Major-league dissing. Oh, and Brazil.

I ask because I don't see Iran cooperating & wonder if that "rejection" may trigger a narcissistic reaction of some sort.

479 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:47:28am

re: #474 DaddyG

How's Obama gonna handle Iran when Kumbayah turns into Boombayah?


Simple - he'll be shocked!

480 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:47:34am
481 gman  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:47:50am

re: #50 buzzsawmonkey

Obama's grasp of foreign policy is Farsi-cal.

This is what you call "grasp both ankles and bend over" foreign policy.

482 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:47:51am

re: #413 subsailor68

Condolences.

483 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:48:10am

re: #474 DaddyG

How's Obama gonna handle Iran when Kumbayah turns into Boombayah?

That's not the Iran I knew

484 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:48:13am
485 Pianobuff  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:48:16am

So much for unclenching.... the fisting has already started.

But in the first government reaction to the video, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's press adviser said "minor changes will not end the differences" between Tehran and Washington.

"Obama has talked of change but has taken no practical measures to address America's past mistakes in Iran. If Mr. Obama takes concrete actions and makes fundamental changes in U.S. foreign policy toward other nations including Iran, the Iranian government and people will not turn their back on him," Ali Akbar Javanfekr told the Iranian state-run English-language Press TV satellite station.

486 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:48:30am
487 spinmore  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:48:49am

Is there an opposing Party in this country?
Speak up and speak out dammit!

488 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:49:13am

re: #277 Occasional Reader

I'm guessing he's in the Caribbean somewhere, because Noman is an island.

...tired of himself.

489 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:49:15am

re: #487 spinmore

Is there an opposing Party in this country?
Speak up and speak out dammit!

/but then no one will like them!

490 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:49:26am

re: #424 ConservatismNow!

I'm trying to think of a historical situation, but yeah. I think the only situation that could possibly apply would be Europe dealing with Napoleon. The only way to deal with Napoleon was to go to war.

Well - Napoleon started it - so some actually curled up and let him win. Even the Prussians ...

Mind - not everybody had an Admiral Nelson, or a General Wellington ...

;-)

491 LindaMarie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:49:36am

re: #319 Last Mohican

Thanks Charles. I'm pretty tired of that one too. And for the record, being Muslim does not necessarily make one evil, or even prone to support radicalism. I know some Muslim Iranian-Americans, for example, who will fly into a rage about the mullahs who are destroying their religion whenever given half a chance. I would tend to agree with Daniel Pipes, who says "radical Islam is the problem, moderate Islam is the solution." Although I would modify that to "moderate Islam could be the solution." Because moderate Islam these days is being outspent and outshouted to the point of near-invisibility.

That being the case, I don't know why Obama keeps lying about the fact that he once was a Muslim, during his childhood. It's slimy and evasive, I think. Tell the truth. Own your past. Make of it whatever you want.

Muslim does not equate to evil. Extreme Islam does and is.
I live in Kabul, like the people - dislike the extreme interpretation of Islam that some use as an excuse for gaining and keeping power.

Did I mention money? Should have. It all comes down to money and power it gives to those in control. The little people like us (US or Afghanistan) are SOL

Burn the Burka's!
Not all Afghans here agree with that. Not all of the men and not all of the women either.

492 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:49:47am
493 jaunte  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:49:47am

re: #413 subsailor68

Sorry it's time to say goodbye. I don't look forward to it, but will have a similar experience soon.

494 JohnAdams  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:50:02am

re: #465 SlartyBartfast

Couple of links for you:

Kipling's "The Power of the Dog" and George Grahm Vest's "Trubute to the Dog".

The House Dog's Grave by Robinson Jeffers has been on my fridge since I lost my beloved old girl last year. It has been a comfort.

495 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:50:58am

re: #413 subsailor68

{subsailor68}
so sorry for your pain.
i'm glad you had so many good years w/ falstaff.
i love his name.

496 pink freud  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:50:58am

re: #468 nyc redneck

Good afternoon, nycredneck. I've not seen a lot of evidence that 'shame' is part of their psyche.

497 Piglet-U93  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:51:49am

re: #472 Lee Coller

Not even Jimmy Carter was this stupid.

I thought Carter was lightspeed stupid. We must be at Warp 7, now.

498 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:52:01am

re: #490 yma o hyd

Well - Napoleon started it - so some actually curled up and let him win. Even the Prussians ...

Mind - not everybody had an Admiral Nelson, or a General Wellington ...

;-)


He also turned the military conventions of the day upside down and was able to use that against his opponents who didn't change their thinking until after getting their collective asses kicked - several times

499 Lee Coller  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:52:04am

Translation:

Oh if you would just understand us, we are really all alike.

NOT!

500 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:52:36am

re: #497 Piglet-U93

I thought Carter was lightspeed stupid. We must be at Warp 7, now.

Plaid speed.

501 Kronocide  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:52:44am

The Teleprompter in Chief has no clothing.

502 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:53:02am

re: #461 MandyManners

Ashkenazi was treated like SHIT this week.

He was indeed - and right across the board.
He even did not get to see Mullen.

I pray Bibi got the message!

503 JohnAdams  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:53:04am

re: #499 Lee Coller

Translation:

NOT!

This is Children's Book Diplomacy.

504 irongrampa  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:53:15am

I predict the most popluar saying these next 4 years will be "I miss W".

505 DaddyG  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:53:31am

re: #487 spinmore

Is there an opposing Party in this country?
Speak up and speak out dammit!

Ross Perot took the wind out of my youthful idealism regarding third party chances. However, I am coming back to the idea in recent years.

As far as congress is concerned I am not pleased with the two different flavors of big government we have to choose from. I'd prefer to have a fat free choice.

Perhaps it is time for another fundamental shift in party power in our country but I pray it doesn't take a war or famine to bring about.

Better that the fiscal conservatives run and govern as what they are and damn the hands accross the aisle nonsense.

506 AmericanMe  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:53:49am

Seriously, this man's yellow streak is a mile wide as it is long. World's biggest p***y, IMO! Forgive my crudeness, but he just pisses me off. I can't stand for my country's "so-called" leader begging to take it up the ass and us along with him!

507 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:53:49am

re: #497 Piglet-U93

I thought Carter was lightspeed stupid. We must be at Warp 7, now.

Ludicrous speed!
[Link: notonecent.blogspot.com...]

508 CharlieBravo  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:53:53am

One giant step - backwards.

509 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:54:11am

Two words: NO CONFIDENCE.

510 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:54:14am
511 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:54:17am
512 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:54:24am

OT - (is the administration off-topic at any time?)

Bernanke defends big bank bailouts + stock market = Stock market is down...

[Link: money.cnn.com...]

513 Lee Coller  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:54:27am

I think this is Rodney King diplomacy, "Can't we just all get along."

514 Soona'  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:54:38am

re: #443 scrubjay

I still am stunned by how many Americans voted for this empty suit and by how many are so detached that that they don't even care what is happening. Our public education system has really done a lot of damage to the level of political understanding. I am worried that we may be close to the tipping point where it is only bread and circuses that the voters care about.

I'm visiting the South by Southwest event here in Austin, Tx, and it's very bewildering how many young people here are absolutely without a clue who this asshole obama is. They're still suffering from BDS and talk like if they just think really really good thoughts, their great leader will deliver them to a worldwide utopia. Sickening.

515 Racer X  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:54:47am

re: #497 Piglet-U93

I thought Carter was lightspeed stupid. We must be at Warp 7, now.

Lightspeed
Warpspeed
Ridiculousspeed
Ludicrousspeed
Obamaspeed

516 DaddyG  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:54:48am

re: #504 irongrampa

I predict the most popluar saying these next 4 years will be "I miss W".


That'll be the second most popular after Mandy's "I hope you people who voted for Obama because McCain wasn't conservative enough are F---ing happy now!"

517 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:54:53am

Well, this is shaping up to be an interesting day so far. We have a casino on fire in my town right now.

518 father_of_10  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:55:08am

I wonder how soon Barry is going to find out that the job is hard work. How soon will he try to find a way to turn over all of the difficult stuff to some flunkys? His resume doesn't show a tremendous hard worker. Nor does it show much "sticktoitiveness". How soon till he thinks it just isn't that much fun anymore and he tells his string-pullers he doesn't want to do it any more?

519 Harry Tuttle  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:55:12am

re: #43 MandyManners

Here's my special message to FCBBHO.

[Video]

That's good this is better.

520 Edouard  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:55:50am

re: #384 Russkilitlover

What's he saying? I can't stream at work.

Rush is really indignant this morning. Infuriated, actually -- he says he is trying to hold himself back from using profanities.

He has audio that proves that both Geithner and Congress were specifically told about the $162 mill in bonuses on March 3, well before everyone claims to have known about it. It's C-SPAN audio and that specific number came out in the hearing, with Tim Geithner listening (Geithner claims not to have known about these bonuses until March 10).

Rush also says he's saddened that Congress/the Senate, specifically the liberals with their anti-AIG theatre this week, have been so easily able to get away with playing the American people for fools.

521 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:55:53am

re: #490 yma o hyd

Well - Napoleon started it - so some actually curled up and let him win. Even the Prussians ...

Mind - not everybody had an Admiral Nelson, or a General Wellington ...

;-)

I read a biography on General Wellington last year. Life would have been completely different had Wellington not been rejected for marriage early in his military career. After the rejection, he devoted himself to his career. He invented the Thin Red Line.

522 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:56:33am

re: #510 Iron Fist

Without doubt. I think Carter was, by far, the worst President in the 20th Century. It is possible that there was a worse President in the 18th Century, but I don't rightly know who it would be, or why.

Obama seems bound and determined to make sure that he carries that title for the 21st Century. What remains to be seen is will he be the last President of America.

Nothing is forever. America will one day fall.

But that doesn't mean it has to happen now .

18th Century? Maybe John Adams, but then again, there were only two, him and George Washington. Now, for the 19th Century, it would be James Buchanan. 20th, Jimmy Carter.

523 father_of_10  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:56:39am

re: #515 Racer X

Lightspeed
Warpspeed
Ridiculousspeed
Ludicrousspeed
Obamaspeed

Obama is turning the economy up to eleven.

524 kansas  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:56:45am

re: #437 Van Helsing

I despise Jimmy Carter.

Yeah, but he's looking better huh?

525 acwgusa  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:56:46am

I fear for the United States. And Israel.

526 Lincolntf  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:56:47am

At what point does this American reporter being held in Iran become a major issue? The whole "arrested for buying a bottle of wine" charges should/could have been dealt with already if this was simply a harassment arrest.
I can't help but wondering if the attention given to the case of Roxana Saberi, of Iranian descent, would be increased if it were "Mary Swanson" of WASP descent sitting in an Iranian jail.

527 LindaMarie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:57:06am

re: #379 Last Mohican

I did not vote for him, however hoped for the best.
If this is his best I am moving, immigratng, to a county that appciates and awards the work ethic.

Must be one or two left?

528 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:57:34am
529 Right mind left  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:58:15am

LOOK how FAST they are moving on the GIVE Bill! This spends MILLIONS on the Community Service enactment for ALL AGES and the requirement to teach "Service-Learning" at all levels, including college, PLUS setting up Special Colleges for SERVICE SPECIALISTS who are trained how to teach this stuff!

PASSED in the HOUSE Wednesday, up for vote in the SENATE on MONDAY!


No wonder there is so much hoopla about other less important things, GET THIS PASSED BEFORE ANYONE NOTICES QUICK!
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From the Senate Calendar Online via GPO Access
[wais.access.gpo.gov]

SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

ONE HUNDRED ELEVENTH CONGRESS

CALENDAR OF BUSINESS

Monday, March 23, 2009

SENATE CONVENES AT 2:00 P.M.

UNANIMOUS CONSENT AGREEMENT

H.R. 1388 (ORDER NO. 35)

Ordered, That upon the conclusion of Morning Business on Monday,
March 23, 2009, the Senate resume consideration of the motion to proceed
to H.R. 1388, an act to reauthorize and reform the national service
laws;
provided, that the vote on the motion to invoke cloture on the
motion to proceed to H.R. 1388 occur at 6:00 p.m. on Monday, March 23,
2009; provided further, that if cloture is invoked, then the post
cloture time count as if cloture had been invoked at 3:00 p.m.; further,
that with respect to the motion to invoke cloture on the motion to
proceed, the mandatory quorum required under Rule XXII be waived. (Mar.
19, 2009.)

530 vagabond trader  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:58:22am

The Obama is simply paving the way for a post America world.

Link:

[Link: creepingsharia.wordpress.com...]

531 SlartyBartfast  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:58:41am

re: #497 Piglet-U93

I thought Carter was lightspeed stupid. We must be at Warp 7, now.

Yeah, if Carter had viewed the taking of our embassy as it really was--an act of war--a lot of pain could have been avoided. Of course, we have the benefit of hindsight to make that assessment.

What are we going to be looking back on 30 years from now (if we live)?

532 kansas  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:58:43am

re: #528 taxfreekiller

Of some note:

What crazy ass anti American thing that Obama at last stoops to will it be to get former Pres. Bush to speak up for America.

Saying nothing is a poor choice. IMO.

Please do not let it be after the nuke attack on a U.S. city and millions dead.

The mullas of Iran are mad, islam is just the excuse for the evil.
They will act.

Bush didn't speak up for 8 years. What makes you think he would now?

533 JohnAdams  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:58:59am

re: #514 Soona'

I'm visiting the South by Southwest event here in Austin, Tx, and it's very bewildering how many young people here are absolutely without a clue who this asshole obama is. They're still suffering from BDS and talk like if they just think really really good thoughts, their great leader will deliver them to a worldwide utopia. Sickening.

Recently turned down a chance to go to the Rothbury festival in Michigan this summer. I knew I would not be able to stomach the starry-eyed dipshit O-bots for three days.

534 jaunte  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:59:17am

re: #517 Honorary Yooper

From your link:

"But the fire was heavy enough to warrant evacuating gamblers from the casino as a precaution."


Sounds as if they ordinarily wouldn't want to disturb the casino operations just because the place was on fire.

535 anat  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:59:21am

If we manage to get through the next four years without a world war, then the silver lining will be the final exist of socialism. Appropriately, it will end in a farce.

536 KansasMom  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:59:26am

re: #527 LindaMarie

I did not vote for him, however hoped for the best.
If this is his best I am moving, immigratng, to a county that appciates and awards the work ethic.

Must be one or two left?

I've heard coworkers talk about moving to New Zealand.

537 lostlakehiker  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:59:31am
But let us remember the words that were written by the poet Saadi, so many years ago: “The children of Adam are limbs to each other, having been created of one essence.”

The mullahs are laughing today, knowing that Barack Obama will do nothing to stop them from gaining the ultimate weapon. This isn’t just ill-advised, it’s disastrous. Barack Obama just hung a huge “Kick Me” sign on America’s back.

I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battle-field, and patriot grave, to every living heart and hearth-stone, all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.

Conciliatory words are not kick-me signs. At any rate, they don't automatically have to amount to that. Obama has tried to model himself on Lincoln. Them's big shoes to fill, and he can't do it right. Nobody on today's political horizon could, actually. But in trying, he may do a better job than he would if he did his own modest personal best.

Iran would do well to study these two speeches, and ponder the way the U.S. proceeded after hanging out that earlier kick me sign.

538 Piglet-U93  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:59:55am

re: #515 Racer X

Lightspeed
Warpspeed
Ridiculousspeed
Ludicrousspeed
Obamaspeed

In keeping with this new theme.

SurrenderSpeed
AppeasementSpeed
SpendingSpeed
BendOverSpeed
StillInCampaignModeSpeed
MyWayOrTheHighwaySpeed
HR1388Speed
HR45Speed
NoBonusContractIsBindingSpeed
SigningAmericaAwaySpeed

539 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:00:02am

re: #497 Piglet-U93

I thought Carter was lightspeed stupid. We must be at Warp 7, now.

Nope... we're at ludicrous speed.

540 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:00:04am
541 Edouard  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:00:12am

re: #512 Walter L. Newton

OT - (is the administration off-topic at any time?)

Bernanke defends big bank bailouts + stock market = Stock market is down...

[Link: money.cnn.com...]

Bernanke's announcement that the Fed was now preparing to buy hundreds of billions of dollars worth of US Treasuries has something to do with Wall Street's worsening mood. Precious metals blasted up after that announcement on Wednesday because this is obviously a major inflationary move, primarily meant to keep interest rates depressed. Also, I surmise that Wen Jinbao really rattled Bernanke's cage last week when he publicly announced China's worries about holding the better part of a trillion dollars in US Treasuries.

It's really breathtaking how things in Washington are going from bad to worse so fast.

542 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:00:26am

re: #528 taxfreekiller

Of some note:

What crazy ass anti American thing that Obama at last stoops to will it be to get former Pres. Bush to speak up for America.

Saying nothing is a poor choice. IMO.

Please do not let it be after the nuke attack on a U.S. city and millions dead.

The mullas of Iran are mad, islam is just the excuse for the evil.
They will act.

I know where you're coming from tfk - but my take on it is that when W acts like a true ex-President should it serves to highlight how far away from that we are heading.

543 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:00:28am
"as we seek the promise of a new beginning"

Obama's concept of "a new beginning" doesn't match that held by the Hojatieh sect (the Twelvers.) He's either ignorant or a self-inflated twit ... or both.

A century from how, historians will be ripping Obama's "legacy" to shreds.

544 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:00:38am

re: #536 KansasMom

I've heard coworkers talk about moving to New Zealand.

Don't want to do that. The place is filled with hobbits.

/

545 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:00:46am

re: #534 jaunte

From your link:

Sounds as if they ordinarily wouldn't want to disturb the casino operations just because the place was on fire.

Due to how it is situated on the river, the gambling part is pretty well sparated from the area currently on fire.

546 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:01:02am

re: #513 Lee Coller

I think this is Rodney King Dangerfield diplomacy, "Can't we just get some respect"all get along."

547 Right Brain  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:01:24am

I've always liked President Obama, in a talented-grad-student kind of away.

But this is real life and he doesn't seem to have the feedback loop, yet, to allow him to know how little that he knows.

548 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:01:27am

re: #496 pink freud

Good afternoon, nycredneck. I've not seen a lot of evidence that 'shame' is part of their psyche.

hey pink, i agree.
shame is not part of their psyche,
not yet.
most still see him as their savior who has promised to dispense gifts.
shame would get in the way of waiting on their kitchens, cars, mortgage payments, health care, etc.

549 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:01:35am

re: #544 Wyatt Earp

Don't want to do that. The place is filled with hobbits.

/

I might be too tall, but my feet are hairier than the hobbits' in the movies.
And hobbits are supposed to have furry feet.

550 pink freud  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:01:51am

re: #526 Lincolntf

At what point does this American reporter being held in Iran become a major issue? The whole "arrested for buying a bottle of wine" charges should/could have been dealt with already if this was simply a harassment arrest.
I can't help but wondering if the attention given to the case of Roxana Saberi, of Iranian descent, would be increased if it were "Mary Swanson" of WASP descent sitting in an Iranian jail.

I don't know if it's been posted, but one of the girls being held is the sister of Lisa Ling (of 'The View' fame), Laura Ling.

551 JohnAdams  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:01:51am

re: #518 father_of_10

I wonder how soon Barry is going to find out that the job is hard work. How soon will he try to find a way to turn over all of the difficult stuff to some flunkys? His resume doesn't show a tremendous hard worker. Nor does it show much "sticktoitiveness". How soon till he thinks it just isn't that much fun anymore and he tells his string-pullers he doesn't want to do it any more?

He seems to be genuinely stunned by criticism--a true tell of his narcissism. People have been waving palms before this guy's feet all his life.

552 jaunte  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:01:57am

re: #545 Honorary Yooper

That's good. Hope they get it out quickly.

553 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:02:00am

re: #546 VegasRick

"Hey mahmoud, you must have been something before electricity!"

554 Unakite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:02:11am

"So on the occasion of your New Year, I want you, the people and leaders of Iran, to understand the future that we seek."

How painful to realize the BHO doesn't understand the future that they seek, and that they don't care about the future that we seek.

555 abolitionist  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:02:12am

re: #149 RaiderDan

A masterful speech, Neville Chamberlain would have been proud....

Chamberlain was able to learn from his mistakes. It remains to be seen whether Brother Barry can.

556 bolivar  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:02:13am

re: #319 Last Mohican

The problem I am seeing starting to come together is that the line delineating good from bad is getting much fuzzier. Some radicals soften the rhetoric and some "moderates" move into radical territory. When the truly "bad guys" start to sound like they are warm and fuzzy how do you tell the difference?

This is a valid question and one that I honestly don't know if anybody can answer other than God and he tends to remain silent on these issues. We have to find it out for ourselves. Indeed, who are the "good guys" and what can we do to make the "bad guys" listen to reason?

Obama wants to assuage the "good taliban" - that is an oxymoron if I ever heard one. Is he smokin some bad stuff or is he truly this naive?

557 beens21  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:02:18am

remember,BHO told visiting congressmen that he enjoyed being President and "I'm pretty good at it".Narcissisticly clueless.

558 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:02:34am

re: #553 Wyatt Earp

"Hey mahmoud, you must have been something before electricity!"

LOL!

559 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:03:04am

re: #539 lawhawk

Nope... we're at ludicrous speed.

Colonel Sandurz: We're closing in on them, sir. In less than a minute, Lone Starr will be ours.
Dark Helmet: Good! Prepare to attack!
Colonel Sandurz: Preparing to attack!
Dark Helmet: On the count of three. 1...2...[Eagle 5 goes into hyperspace]Late! What happened? Where are they?!
Colonel Sandurz: I don't know. They must have hyperjets on that thing!
Dark Helmet: And what have we got on this thing, a Cuisinart?!
Colonel Sandurz: No, sir!
Dark Helmet: Well find them, catch them!
Colonel Sandurz: Yes sir! Prepare ship for light speed!
Dark Helmet: No-no-no, light speed is too slow!
Colonel Sandurz: Light speed too slow?
Dark Helmet: Yes, we'll have to go right to ludicrous speed!

560 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:03:10am

re: #498 Leonidas Hoplite

He also turned the military conventions of the day upside down and was able to use that against his opponents who didn't change their thinking until after getting their collective asses kicked - several times

Yep - but then, as always, Hybris struck.
It wasn't just the Russian Campaing, although that was a quite spectacular end.
Before that, Napoleon's armies were well and truly trounced in the Iberian Peninsula by none other than Wellington, who got the measure of his beloved Marshals there.
Thats how and why Wellington was able, in the end (and with a little help from the Prussians under Bluecher) to defeat him once and for all.

561 albusteve  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:03:20am

re: #551 JohnAdams

He seems to be genuinely stunned by criticism--a true tell of his narcissism. People have been waving palms before this guy's feet all his life.

pour it on....massive criticizm...it is a weapon

562 Unakite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:03:43am

re: #544 Wyatt Earp

Don't want to do that. The place is filled with hobbits.

/

It's not the hobbits I would worry about, it would be the orcs.

563 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:03:57am
564 Rednek  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:04:01am

"Thank you, and Eid-eh Shoma Mobarak."

What is the translation of this?
"Thank you, and Death to America"?

565 godfrey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:04:09am

Well, I guess that clears things up. Obama just bent over. I can hear the unsheathing of knives. Jihadis must be wetting their pants with joy.

566 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:04:30am

re: #561 albusteve

pour it on....massive criticizm...it is a weapon

Except the MSM never pushes "the button."

567 pink freud  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:05:11am

He won.

(Early pic of 0, from Zombie on the LNDT.)

568 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:05:24am

re: #565 godfrey

Well, I guess that clears things up. Obama just bent over. I can hear the unsheathing of knives. Jihadis must be wetting their pants with joy.

He just bent over, and the clenched fist is on its way.

569 Edouard  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:05:36am

re: #536 KansasMom

I've heard coworkers talk about moving to New Zealand.

New Zealand has its own major welfare state problems. They'd better seriously look into it before they make that leap.

570 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:05:36am

re: #528 taxfreekiller

Of some note:

What crazy ass anti American thing that Obama at last stoops to will it be to get former Pres. Bush to speak up for America.

Saying nothing is a poor choice. IMO.

Please do not let it be after the nuke attack on a U.S. city and millions dead.

The mullas of Iran are mad, islam is just the excuse for the evil.
They will act.

It is not the former Presidents job to point to the failings of his successor. It is ours.

571 huckfunn  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:05:38am

"Carrot and stick" has been replaced by "milk and cookies". Isn't that special? Now let's all have a nice nap.

572 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:05:42am

The zero's teleprompter is on FOX News lying to us again. Hey, who the hell is the guy with the big ears?

573 soxfan4life  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:06:18am

re: #568 Wyatt Earp

Where's Hillary with the overchharge button?

574 JohnAdams  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:06:43am

re: #565 godfrey

Well, I guess that clears things up. Obama just bent over. I can hear the unsheathing of knives. Jihadis must be wetting their pants with joy.

Did you hear the one about the British Muslim MP who predicts England will be a Muslim country in 30 years? It's been a real good day already.

575 pink freud  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:06:43am

re: #561 albusteve

pour it on....massive criticizm...it is a weapon

Ridicule hurts worse.

576 godfrey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:06:55am

re: #572 VegasRick

I think he's related to Neville something.

577 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:07:05am

re: #572 VegasRick

The zero's teleprompter is on FOX News lying to us again. Hey, who the hell is the guy with the big ears?

The Teleprompter's Cylon host?

578 Harry Tuttle  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:07:09am
579 HugoChavez  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:07:15am

Hey Obambi, where's MY message?

580 Unakite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:07:21am

re: #46 jaunte

Bend the knee to the mullahs, and see what it gets you.
Sore knees.

Sore b*tthole.

581 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:07:33am

re: #560 yma o hyd

Yep - but then, as always, Hybris struck.
It wasn't just the Russian Campaing, although that was a quite spectacular end.
Before that, Napoleon's armies were well and truly trounced in the Iberian Peninsula by none other than Wellington, who got the measure of his beloved Marshals there.
Thats how and why Wellington was able, in the end (and with a little help from the Prussians under Bluecher) to defeat him once and for all.

I was under the impression that Wellington pursued a harrassment campaign against Napoleon's armies in Iberia - and never went toe-to-toe in a pitched battle - though still to great effect?

582 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:07:47am

re: #519 Harry Tuttle

Are you okay today? You got kinda' wound up last night.

583 JohnAdams  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:07:52am

re: #567 pink freud

He won.

(Early pic of 0, from Zombie on the LNDT.)

That's tremendous! Somebody should do the Hopenchange colorized poster treatment on that photo.

584 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:07:56am
585 Racer X  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:08:27am

What if all of the AIG executives who are receiving bonuses declined them? Wouldn't it be great if they issued a joint statement that says:

"We understand the dire economic financial situation - much better than those in congress who specifically wrote language into the Stimulus Bill excepting these bonuses. Therefore, we have declined to accept additional compensation from the U.S. Government - and challenge members of congress to do the same."

586 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:08:36am

re: #584 Iron Fist

Si vis pacem, para bellum

The opposite is also true. Fail to prepare for war, and you will never know peace even in the absence of actual fighting. Obama seems determined to prove this by experimentation. What could possibly go wrong?

A glowing Israel?

587 Rednek  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:08:40am

re: #568 Wyatt Earp

He just bent over, and the clenched fist is on its way.

They will give him a lesson in Smart-Power

588 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:08:47am

re: #580 Unakite

Sore b*tthole.

Especially if one happens to be a goat.

589 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:09:09am

re: #554 Unakite

"So on the occasion of your New Year, I want you, the people and leaders of Iran, to understand the future that we seek."

How painful to realize the BHO doesn't understand the future that they seek, and that they don't care about the future that we seek.

The two futures are diametrically opposed.

590 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:09:14am

re: #580 Unakite

Soros B*tthole.

Puppetmaster.

591 Harry Tuttle  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:09:16am

Yes thanks. Tho O hit me in a sore spot.

592 Catttt  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:09:34am

From President O's speech: With the coming of a new season, we’re reminded of this precious humanity that we all share.

From reality, where most people live, but not President O:

Since 1979, some 4,000 gay and lesbian Iranians have been executed.

Over 1,000 men, women and children hanged in Iran over the past three years (dateline 2/28/2009)

More than 1,000 men, women and children have been hanged in Iran in the three years to last December.

In the first month of this year, 59 died, including a 35-year-old woman after 12 years in Rafsanjan prison. In December two men were stoned to death, a third being spared after he managed to clamber out of a pit where he was buried up to his shoulders.

The official 170 forms of punishment include limb amputation without anaesthetic and gouging out eyes with a spoon-like instrument.

Iran has executed the highest number of children in the world since 1990. Currently 71 sentenced to death await the gallows.

593 tedzilla99  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:09:48am

It appears that the capitulation is right on schedule. Hopefully Israel will pull the world's bacon out of the fire and raze their nuke facilities.

594 esch  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:09:59am

re: #584 Iron Fist

What could possibly go wrong?

Friend, we're rapidly approaching the "What could possibly go right?" point.

bleah.

595 Harry Tuttle  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:10:13am

re: #591 Harry Tuttle

Yes thanks. Tho O hit me in a sore spot.

(Was to MM #582)

596 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:10:49am
597 Soona'  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:11:06am

re: #544 Wyatt Earp

Don't want to do that. The place is filled with hobbits.

/

And orcs and mountain trolls.

598 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:11:11am

re: #521 ConservatismNow!

I read a biography on General Wellington last year. Life would have been completely different had Wellington not been rejected for marriage early in his military career. After the rejection, he devoted himself to his career. He invented the Thin Red Line.

Erm - no - the 'Thin Red Line' was 'invented' by the Times war correspondent, W.H. Russell, at the Battle of Balaclava, Crimean War, 1854:
'The Times correspondent, W. H. Russell, who standing on the hills above could clearly see that nothing stood between the Russian cavalry and the defenceless British base but the "thin red streak tipped with a line of steel" of the 93rd. Condensed almost immediately into "The Thin Red Line", the phrase has survived to this day as the chosen symbol of everything for which The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders believe themselves to stand.'
[Link: www.aboutscotland.co.uk...]

599 godfrey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:11:19am

re: #574 JohnAdams

I didn't, not yet. Doesn't surprise me. The Islamists in the UK should pour it on these days and get even more belligerent. This will cause the BNP to swell. That swelling will cause British LLL/dhimmis to demonize the BNP even further, which in turn will embolden the Islamists to press their attack. Result: eventually there will be violent clashes, the British/EU police will crack down, the Islamist faction will get Pallywood-style press, and Britain will be sucked further down the totalitarian toilet.

That about right?

The solution, incidentally, is for the LLL/dhimmis to wake the f*** up and start firing into the Islamist ranks. That will upset the balance, create an anti-Islamist middle, and push both extremist camps to the margin.

But it won't happen. Why? because the LLL/dhimmi mentality gets too many strokes. They behave like sexual abuse victims. It's frightening, pathetic, and infuriating -- all at the same time.

600 Van Helsing  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:11:59am

re: #584 Iron Fist

Si vis pacem, para bellum

The opposite is also true. Fail to prepare for war, and you will never know peace even in the absence of actual fighting. Obama seems determined to prove this by experimentation. What could possibly go wrong?

Excellent.

Of course if the goal is a more global government ala the EU (unelected unaccountable bureaucrats making policy) then the first step is to weaken the current powers.

The UK ain't looking good, an we aren't going in a good direction either.
What happens to China if the US stops paying back the loans?

601 Irish Rose  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:12:27am

*head bang*

602 HugoChavez  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:12:31am
603 DistantThunder  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:12:59am

MOnths ago I read an article in a little Philly weekly paper about Obama. And it quoted him as saying: "All I have to do in most cases is just talk to people and 95% of the time we can come to an agreement."

Because he is a gifted scam artist, and has had only dumb Chicagoan to practice on, he has come to believe that he really can talk anyone into anything.

604 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:13:23am
605 LindaMarie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:13:28am

re: #537 lostlakehiker
Depends on how you interpret "kick me"

Remember and be warned that the fanatical Muslims will not stop until you convert or are enslaved.

Both about the same in the way in which you live your life.

606 Desert Dog  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:13:39am

One little mention of "terror" in that entire asskissing message.

Obama and the Dems think that they are wiser and kinder and that the Iranians will see this and suddenly stop all of their nefarious activities. To call that wishful thinking and naivete on a grand scale is an understatement. What Obama is doing is what the Mullah want....cave in, give them legitimacy, bend to their will.....how does this help the interests of the USA? It does not.

I guess nobody over at the DNC or the White House has bothered to read this:

CFR Report of Iranian State Sponsored Terrorism

Do the words: Marine Barracks mean anything to Obama? How about Hezbollah? Khobar Towers? Hamas? Shaped Charged IED?

Was Obama too stoned to remember this?

I guess so....

607 KansasMom  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:13:47am

re: #569 Edouard

New Zealand has its own major welfare state problems. They'd better seriously look into it before they make that leap.

I doubt they are. Plus we're talking about aircraft engineers......not exactly a wealth of jobs in that industry in NZ. Its just grumblings, not actual plans.
I have family here, commitments, people I won't abandon to economic ruin. Even if I go broke too.

608 Unakite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:14:23am

re: #111 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"You people have given the world so much - landscaping, margaritas, George Lopez..."

Lots of new roofs.

609 jcm  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:14:30am

re: #592 Catttt

From President O's speech: With the coming of a new season, we’re reminded of this precious humanity that we all share.

From reality, where most people live, but not President O:

Since 1979, some 4,000 gay and lesbian Iranians have been executed.

Over 1,000 men, women and children hanged in Iran over the past three years (dateline 2/28/2009)

Israel is the International Human Rights Violator!

/ L3

610 godfrey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:14:37am

Maybe O is just angling to be the first to broker the international sanction deals that will be half-heartedly applied to Iran after it lobs a nuke at Israel.

He'll get the Nobel for "international peace talks."

611 Van Helsing  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:14:58am

re: #598 yma o hyd

The thin red line
I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!

-- Rudyard Kipling

612 jemima  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:15:01am

Maybe this has been said but I can't read the whole thread to find out.

This is what America voted for. That's the downside of living in a democracy. If he got in because people didn't bother to vote, then we haven't done a good job making our fellow citizens understand why their vote is precious and it counts. If the government is corrupt, we vote them in office. Nancy Pelosi and John Murtha are our fault.
Maybe 4 or 8 years of living under this kind of terror directed at our population--terror of losing jobs, homes, liberty and lives will convince people to vote. If it's not too late by then.

613 Irenike  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:15:32am

Congratulations, America. We now have our first rock-star president. He is totally up to the task of acting like a celebrity. Today, he gets on a video, full of charm and conciliation, and offers a golden olive branch to Iran. Gosh, he even knows the name of the Muslim holiday they're celebrating. It's a good thing he told the world, in his first week as president, that he used to practice Islam. That really wowed 'em. Iran is going to totally change now.

The economy is in a serious tailspin. Inflation is here, and will only get worse as the Treasury printing presses work overtime. We're in a trade war with Mexico. The Congress has just passed retroactive laws to tax people they don't like at 90% (which happens to be a violation of the Constitution, but what the hell --- a minor detail).

And President Teleprompter? He has time to practice bowling. He has time to go on Jay Leno and impress everybody with what a great guy he is. What a leader! Why doesn't he take up the violin? This way, he'll have something to do while the US economy burns.

614 Rednek  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:16:06am

re: #602 HugoChavez

I Guess Dinnerjacket runs US security. now.

And guess who's in charge of your Navy now, imperialist Yankees.

Dude.

Please tell me that is an old photo, or a fake, or something.

615 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:16:39am
616 DistantThunder  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:16:52am

Hey, give the guy a break: Everyone knew that Obama had ZERO foreign policy experience, when we hired him.

Obama is just a little wobbly on his foreign policy training wheels. A couple of years and he'll be up to speed...if we are still here.

617 irongrampa  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:17:05am

Haven't been one to give much credence to the apocalypse scenario that's being heard with increasing frequency.
BUT, that tiny "what if" lurking in the back ground is beginning to shoulder it's way to the front. Now, we're translating that what if to becoming as ready as possible to counteract the "what if". All the while saying no way can that happen in MY country.
Not a good thing to be thinking of, late at night.

618 Unakite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:17:13am

re: #120 lurking faith

America has been enriched by immigrants from Iran - who were refugees from the Islamic revolution.

(Yes, I know some. Nice people.)


I had a professor in college who left Iran after the revolution. Nice guy and very smart.

619 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:18:24am
620 Van Helsing  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:18:34am

re: #616 DistantThunder

Hey, give the guy a break: Everyone knew that Obama had ZERO foreign policy experience, when we hired him.

Obama is just a little wobbly on his foreign policy training wheels. A couple of years and he'll be up to speed...if we are still here.


I had to.

621 formercorpsman  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:19:31am

re: #528 taxfreekiller

TFK, I don't think he'll make any comment whatsoever. Despite what the left, media, and some of his won party did to him while he was in office, he never countered too strong.

It strikes me as his work ethic. I think he does this as a measure not to "sink to their level" by getting in the fray.

If you notice, the only presidents who thought they were important enough to say something after their term in office was finished, were Carter and Clinton.

That is actually one of the significant differences I have recognized between the parties when it comes to this particular example. It really strikes me as a dignity thing with him.

Sadly enough, I think you are correct, the mullahs are more than full of themselves. They are beaming. The one caveat in all of this, is that I truly feel in same strange way, (I admit, I could be totally wrong about it) but this just might give Israel a bargaining chip with status & recognition among her articulating states. As much as Israel does not want a true Iranian nuclear threat, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc. fear this as well.

None of them have the balls to do it, nor the record of kicking the ass of the 3 hostile nations simutaneously.

Israel has, and they know it.

Again, I could be totally wrong here, but it has made me think.

622 Pupdawg  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:19:53am

re: #314 ConservatismNow!

Just because they are disabled doesn't mean they are not athletes. They ARE Olympians after all. I was telling Missus CN about that last night.

Totally agree!

They are athletes in the purest definition of the word. The disabled Olympians are truly inspirational and absolutely worthy of our respect, adulation, support and praise.
If the POTUS does not realize this he absolutely is an idiot worthy of our scorn and ridicule. In that he holds the highest office in the land, he has to understand that we expect him to conduct himself accordingly. He is rightly held to the highest expectations commensurate with his position. He represents all of us. So far, he has dropped the ball time after time, miserably.

623 jcm  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:20:29am

re: #603 DistantThunder

MOnths ago I read an article in a little Philly weekly paper about Obama. And it quoted him as saying: "All I have to do in most cases is just talk to people and 95% of the time we can come to an agreement."

Because he is a gifted scam artist, and has had only dumb Chicagoan to practice on, he has come to believe that he really can talk anyone into anything.

I don't agree with Marxists on the core issues, Life! Liberty! Property! How could I agree with anything that doesn't agree with the core principals?

624 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:20:32am

re: #596 buzzsawmonkey

Free Mumia!

You couldn't pay me to take Mumia.

625 NY Nana  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:21:22am

re: #375 Sharmuta

Over 3 1/2 years to go.

Not if we are lucky, and Hussein, Plugs, Pelousy™ and Reid are all indicted on charges of malfeasance.

(I can dream, can't I?)

626 Viking6  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:21:54am

re: #17 Honorary Yooper

O-shit, we 52% of the uninformed, brain dead moronic US adult population elected a complete and total idiot as president.

fixed it for you

627 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:22:14am

re: #581 Leonidas Hoplite

I was under the impression that Wellington pursued a harrassment campaign against Napoleon's armies in Iberia - and never went toe-to-toe in a pitched battle - though still to great effect?

Harrassments - sieges - making use of the Spanish guerrilleros - all to excellent effect.
And lets not forget the excellent retreat to Portugal - something any good army leader should be capable of.
In the end he chased the French out of Spain.
Napoleon's msitake was to underestimate him because Wellington hadn't fought a pitched battle. He was not alone in this assessment.
However, 'modern' as Napoleon was - Wellington was more modern. He knew which tactics were going to be more successful in any given situation, and used them.
Oh - and his men adored him and would have followed him to hell.
Well - they did at Waterloo.

628 RedSoxNation  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:22:36am

Is he serious? Even if he thought this was a good idea, isn't there anyone in the White House who could educate him about what dictatorships do to adversaries that show weakness: the attack the advantage. In effective diplomacy involving dictators, you extend the olive branch after you get your adversary bent over a barrel. This is one of the central tenets in the book the "Case for Democracy"; dictators need confrontation with foreigners to maintain power, while democratic leaders need peace to maintain power (e.g. Churchill, Truman, Bush, etc.). This message is only going to give Iran an opportunity to create more friction with the United States. When Iran embarrasses President Obama in its reply, what the hell will President Obama then do? What can he do but look like a novice.

God help us. These people in the White House really are amateurs...

629 DistantThunder  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:22:38am

Anyone see the pictures of the Iron maiden that Uday would use on Iraqi athletes who failed to perform?

630 livefreeor die  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:22:49am

re: #518 father_of_10

I wonder how soon Barry is going to find out that the job is hard work. How soon will he try to find a way to turn over all of the difficult stuff to some flunkys? His resume doesn't show a tremendous hard worker. Nor does it show much "sticktoitiveness". How soon till he thinks it just isn't that much fun anymore and he tells his string-pullers he doesn't want to do it any more?

So far he seems to think that carefully scripted media appearances are the solution to everything.

631 formercorpsman  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:22:56am

re: #629 DistantThunder

link

632 Gus  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:23:13am

Went over to see any news about this at Al Jazeera. Again, the Iranian government responded using the same language as in pervious months. Ali Akbar Javanfekr, presidential advisor to Ahmadinejad said the following:

"We welcome the wish of the president of the United States to put away past differences," Ali Akbar Javanfekr told the AFP news agency.

"But the way to do that is not by Iran forgetting the previous hostile and aggressive attitude of the United States.

"The American administration has to recognise its past mistakes and repair them as a way to put away the differences."

Same old rhetoric.

633 jcm  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:23:42am

re: #612 jemima

Maybe this has been said but I can't read the whole thread to find out.

This is what America voted for. That's the downside of living in a democracy. If he got in because people didn't bother to vote, then we haven't done a good job making our fellow citizens understand why their vote is precious and it counts. If the government is corrupt, we vote them in office. Nancy Pelosi and John Murtha are our fault.
Maybe 4 or 8 years of living under this kind of terror directed at our population--terror of losing jobs, homes, liberty and lives will convince people to vote. If it's not too late by then.

We don't live in a democracy. We live in a Representative Republic with the Rule of Law.

Obama himself doesn't get that. "I won" proves that, the (D)s in congress are running roughshod over the Rule of Law, they too think we live in a democracy.

Democracy is 3 wolves and 2 sheep voting on whats for dinner.

Currently with Obama and the (D) Congress we are dangerously close to an Oligarchy.

634 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:23:58am
635 jcm  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:24:18am

re: #624 CyanSnowHawk

You couldn't pay me to take Mumia.

I'll take him. A short drive and I'll be back alone.

636 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:24:29am
637 tedzilla99  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:24:50am

re: #583 JohnAdams

That's tremendous! Somebody should do the Hopenchange colorized poster treatment on that photo.

Done and done - quick and dirty: http://obamiconme.pastemagazine.com/entries/1007307-smokin.html

638 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:25:57am
639 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:26:27am

re: #627 yma o hyd

YMA


I found this little jewel last night, please enjoy!...:)


Extreme Sheep LED Art


We took to the hills of Wales armed to the teeth with sheep, LEDs and a camera, to create a huge amazing LED display.


640 formercorpsman  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:26:34am

re: #636 taxfreekiller

Correct, Obama is not.

I won't go so far just yet, to tar and feather Bush though.

641 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:27:01am

re: #319 Last Mohican

Thanks Charles. I'm pretty tired of that one too. And for the record, being Muslim does not necessarily make one evil, or even prone to support radicalism. I know some Muslim Iranian-Americans, for example, who will fly into a rage about the mullahs who are destroying their religion whenever given half a chance. I would tend to agree with Daniel Pipes, who says "radical Islam is the problem, moderate Islam is the solution." Although I would modify that to "moderate Islam could be the solution." Because moderate Islam these days is being outspent and outshouted to the point of near-invisibility.

That being the case, I don't know why Obama keeps lying about the fact that he once was a Muslim, during his childhood. It's slimy and evasive, I think. Tell the truth. Own your past. Make of it whatever you want.

To get elected. . .

642 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:27:17am
643 DistantThunder  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:27:21am
644 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:27:25am

re: #627 yma o hyd

Harrassments - sieges - making use of the Spanish guerrilleros - all to excellent effect.
And lets not forget the excellent retreat to Portugal - something any good army leader should be capable of.
In the end he chased the French out of Spain.
Napoleon's msitake was to underestimate him because Wellington hadn't fought a pitched battle. He was not alone in this assessment.
However, 'modern' as Napoleon was - Wellington was more modern. He knew which tactics were going to be more successful in any given situation, and used them.
Oh - and his men adored him and would have followed him to hell.
Well - they did at Waterloo.

Can you recommend a good book or two? I've read How Far From Austerlitz by Alistair Horne - would like to read some more.

645 Rednek  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:27:31am

re: #619 taxfreekiller

#529
Right mind left

The text of H.R. 1388 should be a thread once a week here and all over the net .

That thing is a dagger aimed at freedom.
With the likes of Nancy Pelosi in leadership, this national core just may end up in our homes bashing our computers for posting on littlegreenfootballs.

Great long term danger in this shit, its stealth goon squad enabling.


I glanced at the summary and noticed this part of the bill:

....Eliminates federal funding for the Points of Light Foundation.

With so much federal cash flowing, why does this get the ax?

646 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:28:28am
647 realwest  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:29:34am

Sorry I'm so late to this thread.
I've mentioned before out here how I had the distinct privilege of meeting one of the former Iranian hostages (I cannot reveal his name) in a group of six people all of whom he KNEW were friendly to him and would literally have done anything at all to help or protect him.
And yet, throughout the entire meeting - lasting over an hour, his entire body shook like a leaf in a light breeze. Every Single Day one of his captors would come in and put a pistol against the back of his blindfolded head and say "Is today the day?" and pull the trigger on the empty chamber so he just heard the metallic "click".
I read the transcription above and couldn't watch the video.
I can't imagine how badly this fellow - and his surviving fellow hostages - feel this day. I'd guess
"let down" by the President of the United States and indeed their whole country for electing him would be too weak a description by far.
President Obama, you may have won the election, but I know you're not that former hostage's President, nor are you mine, in my heart.
And while I know it's not my place to do so, I offer my heartfelt condolences and sympathies to all of those former hostages and to their families for the actions and words of Barack Hussein Obama this day.

648 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:30:14am

re: #598 yma o hyd

Dang it. Now you are going to make me look it up. *sigh* I distinctly remember Wellington using a tactic while in India where he spread his troops in a 2-man-deep horseshoe formation. The troops would lay flat until the enemy was fully in the trap. He would order his troops to spring up and fire. It inflicted massive casualties. I'll have to look that up when I get home. I know the first use of the actual term Thin Red Line was in the Crimean War, but Wellington was revolutionary in his use of defensive tactics. To be continued when I can get that bio in front of me...

649 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:30:41am

re: #645 Rednek

With so much federal cash flowing, why does this get the ax?

GHWB will have No legacy, of course- figures. . .

650 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:32:11am

re: #645 Rednek

With so much federal cash flowing, why does this get the ax?

Because Obama is light enough for all, no need to divvy out individual points.

651 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:33:35am

re: #647 realwest

I remember the feeling, as a kid in school- just a baby really, and wondering how those families felt, with their government wringing their collective hands. . .was that rescue by carter poor planned or poorly supported- I cannot remember a lot- my dad z'l was so angry about it. . .

652 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:33:49am

Allah be praised we're going to crash!

Some 35 years ago, that was the caption in a National Lampoon cartoon called Son of God comics.

The greatest nation in the world is being run by fools and we are going to crash. The Golden Child's contemptible bowling comment on the Jay Leno show last night showed what he is made of.

In the history of US diplomacy, it is hard to find a more stupid, contemptibly stupid, doomed to failure, effort than Obama's reach-out to Iran. Anyone paying attention to the international news sees Iran and seven or eight other opponents of American leadership in the world working in concert with each otehr building weapons, armies, and alliances- all designed to bring this country down, down hard.

What exactly do we have to offer that the Ayatollahs don't already have or are not in the process of making? We're about to embark on the single greatest change in policy to a rogue state ever done. If there is any indication of any concern of what might happen, should these efforts fail, I am unable to detect them. I read a ton of news and journals every day and have seen nothing on the subject.

The only things you can give a fascist to make them happy are power and respectability. They love conquering new territory and threatening their neighbors; they love beating their people into submission; most of all, they love weapons which enable them to do this job in a better way and parading the fact of their power to their neighbors and people. With such folks, everything is a means to an end.

I've never seen a totalitarian government declare their territorial ambitions had been completely met, their borders were permanently fixed and they were downgrading their military capabilities, because they trusted in the goodwill of their neighbors and the international community to ensure the safety of their nation.

So either the Obama initiative is the most singularly cynical and pointless act of American diplomacy since FDR put Breckenridge Long in charge of Jewish refugees or Obama is the biggest fool who ever lived or Obama is the single greatest diplomatic genius the world has ever known, a new Metternich, who will transform the entire relationship between peoples and nations into a glorious new and exciting future free from war filled with great economic cooperation and prosperity for all. The way things look is he believes he is the third, while in truth he is the second. If he knowingly is the first, he is evil. This bus is heading off the cliff.

Because he is so confident in his abilities to transform the Iranian regime into a new and suddenly peaceful version of its old self, Obama wastes no time passing out parachutes or take any other rational precaution against what the certainty that Iran will exploit this situation to our great detriment.

What is the United States can do going to do if Iran does not negotiate in good faith and uses diplomacy solely to delay while they get the bomb? What is the backup plan? There is none. What happens to those whose lives and rights are at risk through this action?

Yesterday came the report that an Iranian blogger, died "tragically" after being imprisoned for insulting Iran's supreme leader. To even bring up the subject would do would be to insult our new friends. Yet the true nature of a government is what and how they punish. We are not perfect. But Iran's record is a dark chapter in human justice: they have crushes a boy's arm with a car, hangs gays from cranes and rapes dissident women in prison. What friendship can such a country offer us that is worth having? This leaves aside the thousands (yes I said thousands) of Americans they have murdered or been complicit in murdering over the years.

cont.

653 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:34:00am

re: #650 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Because Obama is light enough for all, no need to divvy out individual points.

So he doesn't have to rent columns anymore?

654 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:35:26am

Iran Holiday Message


655 DisturbedEma  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:37:40am

re: #652 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

yep- upding chaching!

656 formercorpsman  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:37:59am

re: #643 DistantThunder

Work won't let me access that one, I'll hit it when I get home. Thanks.

657 mfarmer1  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:39:32am

This is what happens when you have only been surrounded your entire adult life by academia and theory, and by only those who are are similarly infected.

658 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:40:35am

We are almost 100% certain Saad Bin Laden was in Iran until last year. There are reports his famous dad was too. We are extending to these criminals, the one thing that they want, just when they need it most. They are very unpopular with their people- the Iranian economy is a basket case. Why would we give these people any legitimacy. What government, other than North Korea, has a bigger lunatic than Ahmadinejad as their head?

Instead of reaching out to the Iranian people alone, who love our country and want good relations with us as free people, we are to their leaders/jailers.

The egomania of the president who believes his mere presence and words can transcend any totalitarian heart beggars the imagination. He should be fixing zoning deals in Chicago not leading the world.

And the price the Ayatollahs has already been told to them: the US will use Israel as Czechoslovakia 2.0. Obama is willing to negotiate any agreement detrimental to Israel's security. There are big signs and little signs all indicating that America's alliance with Israel isn't just an inconvenience, it's over. From diplomatic overtures to Hamas to the complete sellout of Lebanon's government to Iran's proxy, Hezbollah to no so secret outreach to Hamas, it is clear Israel is to be the sacrificial lamb. There is a certain swagger, to Israel's enemies in the hallways foreign-policy, in academe and at State: the daggers are out and the worst anti-Semite sons a bitches are looking for a Jew to put their dagger in.

The video of the protest in a French supermarket is disturbingly parallel to images from the 1930s. Just as Jews were driven from European universities by pro-Hitler factions desiring to impose his racial theories even before he arrived with military force, defenseless Jewish origin products are singled out, ruthlessly "selected" and carried away to their doomed fate. First they came for the grocery items, then they came for me. But they are coming. It is in the air.

Instead of rewarding people for bad behavior, you are supposed to punish it. Especially if you don't want the behavior repeated. In Caracas, Hezbollah has set up a major base for operations throughout the Americas, we live in an age where murderers get embassies.

The Golden Child is oblivious to all. Certain of victory and undaunted by the consequences that he is so very, very wrong. Wrong about his abilities. Wrong about his policies. Wrong in the ideas that spawned those policies.

As he weakens our military, with chopped down budgets for a peace that exists only in the minds of the west's leftmost thinkers, the coming disaster looms ever larger and, when it comes, it will be terrible to behold.

659 Annar  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:41:26am

re: #589 MandyManners

The two futures are diametrically opposed.

That used to be true; I'm no longer sure, only the religious overlay differs now and we all know that Islam is a 'religion of peace™' so why worry.
/sarc

660 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:44:03am
661 landline  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:44:23am

Our President has the "mindset of the enemy" since he was raised and mentored by collectivists and Marxists throughout his life; therefore, this does not surprise me at all.

662 realwest  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:47:45am

re: #651 DisturbedEma
As I recall it, the "rescue mission" was one that was opposed by the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff.
By the time Carter got around to it, the Iranian "students" had taken the hostages from the (former) American Embassy where they had all been held, and moved them in small groups to numerous locations within the City of Teheran (then with a population of over One Million) and we didn't know WHERE the hostages were being held. Sending in Delta Force (special operations troops) in those circumstances was worse than foolish. And, iirc, President Carter was advised to do this by his National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski (who, btw, is on Obama's unofficial international security team) but it was done purely for political reasons, IMO, since Carter was losing to Ronald Reagan in the polls at the time (for the 1980 election) and the polls showed that Carter's biggest political problem was the hostages in Iran.
The mission failed when first one helicopter was forced to turn back because of mechanical difficulties and once they reached the desert region of Iran, there was a collision on the ground by two of the three helicopters that had made it to Iran and a lot of US troops lost their lives because of it. And, of course, the hostage rescue mission was scratched.

663 lobo91  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:48:23am

Oh, look...Reuters is passing along lies from the Mexican government and Holder/Napolitano as facts:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. and Mexican security officials will strategize next month on fighting the arms trade fueling Mexico's bloody drug war, but a U.S. ban on assault rifles favored by the traffickers will not be on the agenda.

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security Janet Napolitano announced plans this week to meet their Mexican counterparts -- Attorney General Eduardo Medina and Interior Minister Fernando Francisco Gomez Mont -- at an arms trafficking conference in Cuernavaca, Mexico in early April.

Napolitano told reporters on Thursday the officials will discuss ways of fighting the huge flow of weapons from the United States into Mexico, where they are used by drug gangs in turf battles that killed 6,000 people last year.

To Mexico's great unease, the widely available U.S. guns are often the merchandise carried back along smuggling routes for illegal drugs coming into the United States.

Oddly enough, there is absolutely no evidence to support these claims. The Mexican government makes them, and their lackeys in Washington just lap them up.

Every news story I've read on the violence in northern Mexico includes references to fully automatic weapons, grenades, RPGs, etc.

I've been to a lot of gun shows and stores in my life, but I've never once seen any of those items for sale.

The drug cartels are getting their weapons from Central America, as well as direct from the source in China.

664 goldentoadster  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:48:26am

re: #22 Kosh's Shadow

Also, he's quoting a Sufi poet. The mullahs have been physically attacking Sufi gatherings.

665 rockman  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:54:34am

I'm sure the Mullahs are preparing a special message for us in return. I don't think it will be as obsequious as Obama's was, but it will certainly get our undivided attention.

666 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:56:11am
667 Wilderstad  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 10:59:48am

re: #592 Catttt

From President O's speech: With the coming of a new season, we’re reminded of this precious humanity that we all share.

From reality, where most people live, but not President O:

Since 1979, some 4,000 gay and lesbian Iranians have been executed.

Over 1,000 men, women and children hanged in Iran over the past three years (dateline 2/28/2009)



Please, please send this to President Zero common sense celebutard.

668 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:03:16am
669 Wilderstad  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:09:17am

re: #668 ploome hineni

I don't think he cares. I just want his nose rubbed in it.

670 mfarmer1  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:09:23am

re: #660 ploome hineni

ae you suggesting Nobama has been surounded by academics his whole life?

he has been suounded by losers and radicals

There's a difference? If Obama had even worked for a few months in a regular job, as a server in a restaurant or something while in school like normal people have done at some point in time, this might not be happening.

671 jcbunga  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:17:14am

"Barack Obama just hung a huge “Kick Me” sign on America’s back."

See my avatar.

This guy is dangerously naive.

"When a small man casts a long shadow darkness is near."

672 slterry40  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:19:01am

You know you have a really awful president when you can honestly say the least offensive thing he has done in the last few days is make fun of special olympians.

673 abu jimbola  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:23:07am

What we need here is more real Chicago style action...

you know the kind where if people piss you off they swim with the fishes and accidents happen in strange ways.

Instead we get this Chauncy Gardner clone sleepwalking through reality.

674 The Optimist  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:27:08am

re: #670 mfarmer1

Excellent video. It will haunt Obama forever.

675 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:31:21am
676 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:32:45am
677 BLBfootballs  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:37:47am

re: #537 lostlakehiker

Conciliatory words are not kick-me signs. At any rate, they don't automatically have to amount to that. Obama has tried to model himself on Lincoln. Them's big shoes to fill, and he can't do it right. Nobody on today's political horizon could, actually. But in trying, he may do a better job than he would if he did his own modest personal best.

Iran would do well to study these two speeches, and ponder the way the U.S. proceeded after hanging out that earlier kick me sign.

I guess they don't have to amount to that, but do they really amount to anything else here? What's the point of taking up such a repentant tone and 'reaching out' to Iran's Islamic tyrants if not to signal a coming wave of American obeisance? Lincoln didn't "reach out" to the preeminent evil facing the Union -- the slave-based Confederacy -- instead he fought it into annihilation and imposed a new, more decent order upon the South. Lincoln had incredible guts and moral commitment -- two qualities that seem more distant from the current President.

678 bombarafat  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:38:16am

Hmmmmmm
We have great Iranian Americans because they fled from the Ayatollah khomaniacs.
Face it when it comes to foreign policy B.O. just don't know.

679 Lincolntf  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:41:00am

I just watched two great finishes in the NCAA Tourney. OK St and Marquette won in squeakers.

680 hous bin pharteen  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 12:05:53pm

One of my wishes is to go back to NYC with my wife and to Central Park where we got engaged. I have been going through rehab at record speed, but I still need some time to get better enough to be in enough shape to have fun there. But thanks to Hussein Obama, time is running out. I don't want to be there when the mushroom cloud goes up. O'bomd-a has already shown great cowardice to our enemies. He is only making them more aggressive.

681 Suzette  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 12:10:52pm

re: #17 Honorary Yooper

O-shit, we elected a complete and total idiot as president.

I think he has crossed over to blooming idiot. Exactly why Mr. president are our relationships strain?
What you don't know? Or is Bush your answer?
Oh wait....didn't they take hostages of Americans? Check.
Death to Americans? Check.
Death to Israel? Check.
Oh and they are acquiring nuclear weapons...Check.

Forget if we will survive the 4 years of this man. Can we even handle the damage of 6 months of this fool?

682 Fabio P.Barbieri  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 12:15:54pm

re: #343 Kosh's Shadow

Actually, that's one Hell of a good idea! And the Burmese junta the last Rambo movie. And True Lies to any one of a dozen Arab governments. And...

683 Last Man Standing  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 12:20:03pm

How can a place where people are stoned to death for their sexuality be included positively in a sentence with words like humanity and civilization?
Anyway , what happened to that Iranian drone the Air force shot down a few days ago over Iraqi airspace ?[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

684 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 12:40:53pm
685 hous bin pharteen  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 12:43:40pm

Why doesn't O'bomb'a bring the ARMY troops back from the 'Stan and send his minions over instead. Let THEM fight for their country.
Say goodbye to Army green, and hollow to O'bomb'a pink. Okay, okay. Maybe peach and lavender.

686 hous bin pharteen  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 12:49:35pm

......and send the Communist News Broad Casting talk show person, Rachel Meadows, to find out what is actually going on in the REAL world, instead of an episode on HBO.

687 Josephine  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 1:09:54pm

re: #462 ilzito guacamolito

Does he even know who the President of Canada is?
/

Yeah, he came all the way to Canada to talk to her about solving the plight of the people of Haiti. They really bonded.

/

688 eaglewingz08  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 2:03:51pm

Yes I'm waiting for the apology from Tehran for the 'strained relations' of the 444 days of hostage taking, the 'strained relations' from the blowing up of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon in 1983, the 'strained relations' of blowing up the Jewish Centre in Argentina, the 'strained relations' caused by the murder of Hariri a couple of years ago, the 'strained relations' of Iranians calling the Jewish State a cancer, and Jews, pigs and monkeys, and imagining a world without Israel, but that ain't gonna happen as long as Obama is President.
Typical lib without an ounce of common sense in his body.

689 So?  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 2:30:00pm

I think 2012 has just been moved up 2 years.

690 Emerald  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 2:51:44pm

Oh, yeah. Carter. There are a lot of parallels between the two, but there are some big differences, too. For all the stupidity of some of his decisions, Carter is not dumb; he graduated from the Naval Academy. He was successful in business before going into politics. He had experience before going to the White House. He was a failure as a president and caused lasting problems, but I'd say it came from his political outlook, not a lack of qualifications or intelligence. He had no confidence in the country or its citizens, so he didn't think we'd be able to solve problems.

Also, as far as I can remember, there wasn't a huge backlash against Carter almost immediately as he took office. Democrats in Congress supported him for a long time. I don't think there was even a serious attempt to get another candidate to run against Reagan. There weren't party operatives going around in a state of shock at the things he said and did.

Obama can't say that. There have been plenty of posts here basically about how scared the establishment is with what they got into the White House. The whole rush to tax the AIG bonuses shows that the current Congress recognizes they are in trouble. I don't think they're going to blindly support future Obama plans. His track record is already dismal, and he's been in office just a few months.

It's not a big stretch until the Democrat Party tries to rein him in. There are going to be a lot of nervous incumbents, and the more Obama bumbles between now and the election, the worse it's going to get for them. Unlike Carter, the Democrats are going to be actively trying to stop him from doing any more stupid stuff. Unfortunately, that's going to be a very, very uphill battle for them.

691 Ojoe  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 3:00:00pm

Iran Brushes Aside New Obama Video Message

On Friday, an Ahmadinejad adviser played down Obama's video, saying "minor changes will not end the differences" between Tehran and Washington.

692 Ojoe  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 3:02:15pm

re: #651 DisturbedEma

What is z'l?
Thank you.

693 screaming_eagle  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 3:11:23pm

So has Ole Glory been changed to a solid white flag now?

694 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 3:18:21pm

A couple liberal democrat friends of mine have already emailed me a copy of this video. They are dee-lighted, to say the least. One friend said that "this proves that Obama will be a great President because he knows how to bring people together!" The other one simply called President Obama, "the President of peace..."

If I had the audacity to write either back and express concern for Iran's nuke program or question just how happy happy joy joy Obama will be when the mullahs target Israel for mass destruction. I know from experience that I'd be greeted with hostility.

Ah, very cute. My girl kitty just batted at the screen with her paw.

695 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 3:24:07pm

re: #692 Ojoe

What is z'l?
Thank you.

Hebrew abbreviation for "Zichrono Livrocho"
Translation: Of Blessed Memory

696 uncle_walter87  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 3:27:58pm

I'm sorry, but the phrase "Giant Douchebag" comes to mind.
I completely agree with the "kick me" sign on our backs. What we (the people of America) must understand is that the racist bastards in power in Iran DO have a history of promoting violence against Israeli and American assets and, as such, cannot be allowed to gain a nuclear weapon.
W. had 9/11, God knows what the great O. will have.

697 PineCone  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 4:00:28pm

I think Dinner Jacket will be so impressed with this message that he will reciprocate with a heart felt message of his own and deliver it on Easter Sunday.

698 Bubbaman  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 4:52:13pm

This is so outrageous that I'm only going to say a couple of things. Osama bin Obama reminds me of the classic "wife beater". He's the consumate "nice guy" to all of the pricks on the street and then goes home and abuses his wife (in this case the U.S.). While this metaphor may seem odd, the psychopathology is the same.

699 Kobalt  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 5:34:10pm

We need operation Beach Boys to be placed in effect:

"bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran..."

700 Macker  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:33:03pm

Go to Hell, Оба́ма.

701 Promethea  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 8:39:43pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

[deleted]

Sharmuta,

Well stated!

You always express yourself so succinctly.

702 Promethea  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 9:12:05pm

re: #603 DistantThunder

MOnths ago I read an article in a little Philly weekly paper about Obama. And it quoted him as saying: "All I have to do in most cases is just talk to people and 95% of the time we can come to an agreement."

Because he is a gifted scam artist, and has had only dumb Chicagoan to practice on, he has come to believe that he really can talk anyone into anything.

Ha, ha, you're right. Chicago is a nice place with nice people, despite our terrible reputation. Chicago is NOT Iran. Obama is way over his head.

703 Sacred Plants  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:58:30am

President Obama can afford to play the gracious self-deprecating diplomat, because the oil oligarchs know very well that if their spoiled kids kill him, they will wreck his vain party and trigger a regime change to the party with less qualms. Kick me, I am the lure of a predator that will crush you. Are you sure you control the instincts of your lackeys, Mr. Mullah?

704 Abu Lahab  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:59:21am

How naive !
The people of Iran won't even see this message or hear about it! The mullahs are laughing and I even wonder if they saw that till the end.


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