Saturday Music: John Hiatt, ‘Riding with the King’
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A classic John Hiatt song, with Sonny Landreth tearing it up on slide guitar in Basel, Switzerland: Riding with the King.
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Tom on the rez Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:42:38pm |
John Hiatt & Sonny Landreth … A perfect combination!
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:43:17pm |
Well, my far-ranging day has ended. I’m at my desk with my latest book purchase: American Lightning by Howard Blum. Its a story about the bombing of the LA Times in 1910 by Union terrorists.
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Bloodnok Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:48:08pm |
KILLER slide work in the middle section and the outro. NICE.
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Emperor Norton Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:49:43pm |
Ah, beautiful Basel, Switzerland, the original birthplace of the blues.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:53:36pm |
Hard to believe this was originally recorded in 1983!
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:54:16pm |
Any Aussie geeks online?
Space Station tracker
Should be visible to your south soon.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:55:39pm |
re: #16 PSGInfinity
CRAP! I thought for sure you were headed for Kills.
Looks around for pie to throw…………
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:57:46pm |
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:57:50pm |
re: #19 Gella The title of the music Charles so kindly put up “Riding with the King”!
And thank you for this Charles!
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Gella Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:58:05pm |
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Tom on the rez Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:58:22pm |
#5 Dark_Falcon “Union Terrorists.” But you repeat yourself.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:58:48pm |
re: #23 realwest
The title of the music Charles so kindly put up “Riding with the King”!
And thank you for this Charles!
When you listen to the end it’ll be a smidge clearer.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:59:26pm |
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Gella Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:00:44pm |
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swamprat Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:01:42pm |
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Gella Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:02:22pm |
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:03:12pm |
re: #30 Gella
no, but i used to eat sugar with table spoon
And your mom hadda pull you off the ceiling, right?
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Gella Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:03:48pm |
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LGoPs Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:04:07pm |
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solomonpanting Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:04:17pm |
re: #5 Dark_Falcon
Well, my far-ranging day has ended. I’m at my desk with my latest book purchase: American Lightning by Howard Blum. Its a story about the bombing of the LA Times in 1910 by Union terrorists.
There must have been severe lingering effects because the Times has been bombing on a consistent basis for many years now.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:05:19pm |
re: #34 solomonpanting
There must have been severe lingering effects because the Times has been bombing on a consistent basis for many years now.
Add in the bombs they’ve been lobbing, and you have to add Stockholm Syndrome to the aftereffects…
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Van Helsing Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:06:44pm |
A laurel and hearty handshake to all.
G’nite boys and girls.
Play nice.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:06:53pm |
re: #20 realwest
Union terrrorists? Tell us more?!
I haven’t finished the book yet. But it is interesting to note that at the time the LA Times was a vehemently anti-union paper. Its owner, Harrison G. Otis, did indeed engage in anti-union abuses. The Labor movement however, had gone on a bombing spree and the bombing of the LA Times building on 10/1/1910 left 21 people dead. In just getting to the arrest of the McNamara brothers, who planned and carried out the bombing. Also of note is that their trial Attorney is a principal character in the book. You all know at least his name from another famous case: Clarence Darrow.
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Gella Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:07:00pm |
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:07:42pm |
Charles, I love the preview! Fast, inline, doesn’t break your concentration or flow! A++++ Would post again!
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:08:30pm |
re: #37 Van Helsing
A laurel and hearty handshake to all.
G’nite boys and girls.
Play nice.
OK!
(Throws a pie at Van Helsing as he ambles out the door)
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Mich-again Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:08:43pm |
Never play poker with a guy whose first name is a State and never let the drummer handle the bar tab.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:09:28pm |
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:09:34pm |
re: #38 Dark_Falcon
Thank you for that! Based just on what you’ve read so far, would y’all recommend it?
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Bloodnok Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:10:30pm |
Freddie King - “Living in the Palace of the King”
Featuring one of my all-time favorite lyrics:
Yeah, let me tell you something funny, I don’t know what they say
I can’t find a Chitlin Pizza for any price I pay
I’m goin’ back to Dallas, back to the palace of the king
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Gella Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:11:26pm |
re: #43 PSGInfinity
CuteOverload’s a marvelous stress-reliever.
dude, seriously, its a bit of an overload for Saturday night :)
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swamprat Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:11:41pm |
re: #42 Mich-again
Never bet a man at his own game; If he bets you that the queen of hearts will dance around the room and squirt cider in your ear, sure enough, you’re gonna end up with an ear full of cider.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:12:45pm |
re: #48 Geepers Hey Geepers, good to see you! How are you doing?
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:14:37pm |
re: #42 Mich-again
Hey Mich! “never let the drummer handle the bar tab anything but the drums and then listen to him very carefully cause he’s probably sneaking up to an unanticpated solo.”
There, FTFY!
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:15:03pm |
re: #48 Geepers
Dang, now all we need is an auto post feature. ;-)
Yes, but that requires the new Mind Interface to be debugged.
(Adjusts tinfoil hat)
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Geepers Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:15:26pm |
Hey realwest.
You’re up late. And I’m doin’ great. How ‘bout your fine self?
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:15:48pm |
re: #52 PSGInfinity
Wipe off the cream pie before you adjust that tinfoil hat!
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:15:54pm |
re: #47 swamprat
Never bet a man at his own game; If he bets you that the queen of hearts will dance around the room and squirt cider in your ear, sure enough, you’re gonna end up with an ear full of cider.
I was wonderin’ where that came from…
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:16:37pm |
re: #44 realwest
Thank you for that! Based just on what you’ve read so far, would y’all recommend it?
Yes, I would. It’s a good read, though its only in hardback right now. The dust jacket art will remind you of The Devil In The White City by Erik Larson (its published by the same publisher, Crown), and it is the same kind of book. If you liked Devil, Isaac’s Storm, or Thunderstruck, you’ll probably enjoy American Lightning.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:16:57pm |
re: #54 realwest
Wipe off the cream pie before you adjust that tinfoil hat!
Whatt’ya think’s the cause of the adjustment?
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:17:11pm |
re: #53 Geepers
Glad to read that you’re doing well my friend! And I’m just up late until all the meds kick in!
And while my fine self is doing great, my unfine self ain’t doing too bad, either!
:)
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:17:35pm |
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BlueCanuck Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:18:35pm |
Evening all. How’s the weekend treating most of you?
/oh yeah. Night shift checking in. :)
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:18:58pm |
re: #56 Dark_Falcon
Uh, I haven’t read “If you liked Devil, Isaac’s Storm, or Thunderstruck, you’ll probably enjoy American Lightning.” so that doesn’t help me much! Is it a true history or an historical novel?
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Karagush Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:19:29pm |
just pokin my nose in. Seein what you all are up to
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Mich-again Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:19:30pm |
re: #51 realwest
cause he’s probably sneaking up to an unanticipated solo.
I know what you mean there.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:19:39pm |
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:19:40pm |
re: #59 PSGInfinity
Well hell, at such close range how could I miss?!?
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:20:14pm |
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Geepers Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:20:16pm |
realwest (#58),
And while my fine self is doing great, my unfine self ain’t doing too bad, either!
Then you’re a force to be reckoned with.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:20:56pm |
re: #64 Mich-again
Why is that SO prevelent in drummers, anyway? I never understood that; doesn’t matter how many solos he DOES GET, he always tries to sneak another one in!
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:21:26pm |
re: #69 Geepers
realwest (#58),
Then you’re a force to be reckoned with.
(Still cleaning pie of the tinfoil hat)
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swamprat Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:22:08pm |
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:22:19pm |
re: #69 Geepers I am indeed a force to be reckoned with - long as we’re talking internet and all that jazz!
Glad to hear you’re doing well my friend, I really am - I hardly ever see you out here anymore!
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:22:44pm |
re: #70 realwest
Why is that SO prevelent in drummers, anyway? I never understood that; doesn’t matter how many solos he DOES GET, he always tries to sneak another one in!
They’re like Italian taxi drivers - they’re sure they’re better than Neal Peart, and the next one’s gonna put ‘em on the map.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:23:00pm |
Obama criticizes Cheney’s approach to terrorism in ‘60 Minutes’ interview
President Obama, rejecting former Vice President Dick Cheney’s contention that he has put the nation at greater risk of terrorism, suggests in a “60 Minutes” interview that the previous administration’s stance was an “advertisement for anti-American sentiment.”
“How many terrorists have actually been brought to justice under the philosophy that is being promoted by Vice President Cheney?” Obama asks. “It hasn’t made us safer. What it has been is a great advertisement for anti-American sentiment.”
/too many drugs later and too arrogant to even buy a clue
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traderjoe9 Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:23:37pm |
Basel, Switzerland - the site of the First Zionist Congress in 1897!
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LGoPs Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:23:41pm |
Speaking of new features - and I do love the new auto comment - I’d like to have a feature where I can sort on and see reply’s to what I’ve posted, so that I can answer. I try to be diligent about answering back but lots of times I have to walk away after a post and by the time I get back the thread’s moved on by hundreds of comments. I try to scan through but I’m sure I miss stuff.
Either way, I’m ashamed to admit that my computer skills are pretty basic and I’m just wondering if there’s something simple already out there that I’m missing or if I’m asking for something that’s not practical to implement.
Any suggestions?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:23:44pm |
re: #62 realwest
Uh, I haven’t read “If you liked Devil, Isaac’s Storm, or Thunderstruck, you’ll probably enjoy American Lightning.” so that doesn’t help me much! Is it a true history or an historical novel?
Its a true history. Sorry about the poor reference. Still, I’d say give the book a read. Its quite good.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:24:26pm |
re: #75 Killian Bundy
Obama criticizes Cheney’s approach to terrorism in ‘60 Minutes’ interview
/too many drugs later and too arrogant to even buy a clue
Obama or Cheney?
(I’m ASSuming Barry, but I thought I’d ask)
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BlueCanuck Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:24:46pm |
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Mich-again Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:24:47pm |
re: #70 realwest
doesn’t matter how many solos he DOES GET, he always tries to sneak another one in!
Did you ever notice the pile of empty beer cans all around the back of the drum kit? They didn’t get there by them self.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:26:29pm |
INTERVIEW WITH HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY JANET NAPOLITANO
Janet Napolitano, 51, is President Obama’s new Homeland Security Secretary. She spoke with SPIEGEL about immigration, the continued threat of terrorism and the changing tone in Washington.
SPIEGEL: Madame Secretary, in your first testimony to the US Congress as Homeland Security Secretary you never mentioned the word “terrorism.” Does Islamist terrorism suddenly no longer pose a threat to your country?
Napolitano: Of course it does. I presume there is always a threat from terrorism. In my speech, although I did not use the word “terrorism,” I referred to “man-caused” disasters. That is perhaps only a nuance, but it demonstrates that we want to move away from the politics of fear toward a policy of being prepared for all risks that can occur.
/are we safer or less safe?
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Mich-again Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:26:35pm |
re: #78 LGoPs
Any suggestions?
When you come back, search comments for your nic. The ones you posted will be there along with the ones other people replied to.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:26:59pm |
re: #75 Killian Bundy Obama criticizes Cheney’s approach to terrorism? Fuck him.
When we get 7 (although I’d prefer only four be while he’s POTUS) years of no attacks (after 9/11) under his wussy administration, then he can fucking talk.
Cause as far as I’m concerned all he’s done is make us appear weaker.
Oh and while I’m on a mini-rant, Hey Obama! What’d ya think about that new democracy in the ME, ya know, Iraq?!
POS.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:27:05pm |
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LGoPs Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:28:01pm |
re: #83 BlueCanuck
ctrl-f. then search for your nic. :)
/some things are just that simple.
I’ll be damned. Thank you.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:28:06pm |
re: #89 PSGInfinity
Either way, it’s more’n I knew before. Thanks!
Which helps, cuz I’m a more’n sometimes!
;)
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Mich-again Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:28:19pm |
re: #85 Killian Bundy
INTERVIEW WITH HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY JANET NAPOLITANO
/are we safer or less safe?
mmm Napolitano. I like that ice cream with stripes of chocolate, strawberry and vanilla.
/
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:28:24pm |
re: #85 Killian Bundy
INTERVIEW WITH HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY JANET NAPOLITANO
/are we safer or less safe?
Napolitano is, like most of Dear Leader’s appointees that have actually been able to accept their posts, is a fucking moron.
/and you can quote me on it, FCBBHO…
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:29:47pm |
re: #93 talon_262
Napolitano is, like most of Dear Leader’s appointees that have actually been able to accept their posts, is a fucking moron.
/and you can quote me on it, FCBBHO…
FCB? (BHO seems obvious)
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BlueCanuck Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:31:37pm |
re: #90 LGoPs
No problem. Sometimes people overlook the simple solutions because they forget they are there. Or we are just trying to make things more complex in a complex world.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:31:47pm |
re: #85 Killian Bundy
Napolitano is off her rocker. Looks at what’s in bold below — it’s typical liberal neu-speak.
In my speech, although I did not use the word “terrorism,” I referred to “man-caused” disasters.
That is perhaps only a nuance, but it demonstrates that we want to move away from the politics of fear toward a policy of being prepared for all risks that can occur.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:32:23pm |
The war on terror is now being fought with grammar.
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DisturbedEma Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:32:49pm |
re: #97 Gus 802
Napolitano is off her rocker. Looks at what’s in bold below — it’s typical liberal neu-speak.
including terrorist acts by men and women, and children?
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Mich-again Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:33:22pm |
re: #47 swamprat
Never bet a man at his own game;
I once lost a bet to a guy who said he could pound a sewing needle through a dime. Then he went and did it.
He put the dime in a block of soap and then pounded the needle with a hammer into the dime. I was like c’mon. Why did I make that stupid bet.
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DisturbedEma Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:33:25pm |
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swamprat Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:33:28pm |
re: #97 Gus 802
Napolitano is off her rocker. Looks at what’s in bold below — it’s typical liberal neu-speak.
“Cause terrorism is double-plus ungood.”
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Geepers Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:34:00pm |
realwest (#95),
Actually it wore me right out. But is was a great time. Plus I won a big screen TV at the casino, so it was all good.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:34:11pm |
re: #99 DisturbedEma
including terrorist acts by men and women, and children?
I suppose so. Like those terrorist kids that steal the chalk from the chalk board.
//
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DisturbedEma Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:34:49pm |
re: #93 talon_262
Napolitano is, like most of Dear Leader’s appointees that have actually been able to accept their posts, is a fucking moron.
/and you can quote me on it, FCBBHO…
Yes, my word, the only experience necessary is no experience necessary…
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:35:21pm |
re: #104 Geepers
WOOT! A Big Screen TV! How much did ya lose to win it?!
/
Seriously, that’s really cool - what kind of Big Screen (LCD/Plasma) and how big?!
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:35:28pm |
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DisturbedEma Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:35:34pm |
re: #105 Gus 802
I suppose so. Like those terrorist kids that steal the chalk from the chalk board.
//
And shamelessly refuse to buy back their carbon foot prints…
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:36:23pm |
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:36:25pm |
re: #110 Noam Sayin’
Hey Noam! Could y’all post that link to a pic of it again? My mouth’s a little dry and I need to drool some!
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DisturbedEma Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:36:35pm |
re: #103 swamprat
“Cause terrorism is double-plus ungood.”
fucking new algebra as homeland insecurity…2 negatives make a positive…
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:36:46pm |
re: #111 DisturbedEma
And shamelessly refuse to buy back their carbon foot prints…
Chalk kills! Stop the chalk madness now!
//
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DisturbedEma Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:37:24pm |
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Mich-again Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:00pm |
re: #108 DisturbedEma
Yes, my word, the only experience necessary is no experience necessary…
Ignorance is better then learned stupidity.
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DisturbedEma Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:07pm |
re: #113 realwest
Hey Noam! Could y’all post that link to a pic of it again? My mouth’s a little dry and I need to drool some!
steady… wait for it
C’mon Noam…give ‘em a break…
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:09pm |
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Geepers Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:12pm |
Mich-again (#107),
My parents lived in Breckenridge for 16 years and they drove out to visit friends so I sent it back with them.
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:36pm |
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DisturbedEma Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:50pm |
re: #117 Mich-again
Ignorance is better then learned stupidity.
I suppose, but in this job- the end result of either trait will be death of innocents and protections for criminals…
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:59pm |
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DisturbedEma Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:39:41pm |
re: #119 Gus 802
Chalk Lung: The Hidden Danger
Next on 20/20
//
Have you or a loved one been dxed with a chalk related illness, if you you may be entitled to compensation…
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:41:14pm |
re: #124 DisturbedEma
Have you or a loved one been dxed with a chalk related illness, if you you may be entitled to compensation…
Call attorney Franklin D. Middlewright at 1-800-CHALKIT
//
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Geepers Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:41:17pm |
realwest (#109),
$120. But I won it in a drawing. 42” Sharp HD widescreen. It’s sweet, and the price was right. ;-)
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DisturbedEma Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:41:48pm |
re: #125 Gus 802
Call attorney Franklin D. Middlewright at 1-800-CHALKIT
//
Clean up that chalky residue with Shamwow!
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swamprat Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:43:56pm |
re: #114 DisturbedEma
fucking new algebra as homeland insecurity…2 negatives make a positive…
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:44:06pm |
The shooting incident in Oakland has now become a massacre of policemen: at least three are dead, and a fourth is either already dead too or just barely hanging on. The perp was also killed. He shot with a submachine gun at a SWAT team through a closed closet door where he was hiding out. The injured officers shot back through the door and killed the demonic scumbag.
But get this: in the NY Times article about the incident, at the very end, they report:
On Saturday, people lingered at the scene of the traffic-stop shooting. About 20 bystanders taunted the police.
Taunting the police after they’ve been massacred?!?!? There is a deep, deep social sickness in Oakland. One can only imagine what they were saying. “You had it coming, you motherf*ckers! This is just the beginning! It’s payback time for Oscar!” etc.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:44:18pm |
re: #121 Noam Sayin’
Slurp, well I reckon my dry mouth is gone! Say, didn’t you say you aready had a 5.1 surroundsound system too?!
realwest turns green with envy! Oh, no wait, I are a Lizard, that’s my regular color!
Super Nice Noam!
Uh,y’all got a big enough room to put that it or are y’all gonna break out the sledge hammers tomorrow?
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:44:56pm |
re: #127 DisturbedEma
Clean up that chalky residue with Shamwow!
Hey, Napolitano said man-caused disasters! Shouldn’t that be People-Caused-Disasters?
Better yet, that’s Speciesist. It might have to be Mammal-Caused-Disasters! You know them kitty cats — they’re sneaky!
//
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:46:09pm |
re: #130 realwest
The surround sound was one of the reasons I’m getting a new TV. Mine is too small for my “media room.”
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:46:27pm |
re: #129 zombie
Disgusting. Imagine being a cop in that area and having to come back the next day to protect those people.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:46:47pm |
re: #126 Geepers
Ah, that’s a nice set! I was gonna buy that exact set, or maybe an LG set, until I realized I couldn’t afford either one!
Y’all have the surround setup ready to go when ya finally get it home?!
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:48:15pm |
re: #133 Gus 802
Disgusting. Imagine being a cop in that area and having to come back the next day to protect those people.
I’d have to think about quitting. The force, the area, maybe even the career. How they do it amazes me…
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Chicken Kiev Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:48:30pm |
zombir #129
Taunting the police after they’ve been massacred?!?!?
Well, I just read in an Oakland paper that officers were seen at their substation “openly crying.” Who would jeer at crying people of any kind, much less crying cops?!
This is how it feels to live in the land of no souls.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:49:12pm |
re: #135 PSGInfinity
I’d have to think about quitting. The force, the area, maybe even the career. How they do it amazes me…
Really. The cops should hold a protest in that neighborhood. If not go on “strike.” Screw them.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:49:17pm |
re: #129 zombie
Wow, those hecklers would probably call the police if they were in trouble too. Some people like that just don’t deserve any assitance though.
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Chicken Kiev Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:49:23pm |
should say “zombie,” not “zombir” — unless you’d like a Turkish-sounding nickname.
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NY Nana Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:50:32pm |
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:50:39pm |
re: #133 Gus 802
Disgusting. Imagine being a cop in that area and having to come back the next day to protect those people.
Oakland police have just about the hardest job in America. The anti-police bias goes all the way to the top. The outgoing police chief in fact RESIGNED in a huff after the freakin’ City Council forced 8 officers to be fired after a shyster ambulance-chasing lawyer falsely accused them of doling the paperwork wrong for a search warrant. The City Council lambasted the officers in public, before there was any trial or proof. The chief said, basically — I’m outta here. You people are nuts. You want a police chief? Get your own damn police chief. Now this. Every day something outrageous happens.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:50:40pm |
Three police sergeants dead, suspect killed in East Oakland gunbattles
The three veteran officers killed were all sergeants: Erv Romans, 43, , Dan Sakai, 35, and Mark Dunakin, 41,, police said. This was the first time that any sergeants in the department have been slain. Officer John Hege, 41, of Concord is on life support at Highland Hospital. A fifth officer was grazed by a bullet. He was treated and released from the hospital.
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Syrah Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:50:43pm |
re: #129 zombie
The article seems to be trying to tie this in with the Oscar Grant incident.
Looks like it is going to be a bad summer for Oakland.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:51:36pm |
re: #129 zombie
Taunting the police after they’ve been massacred?!?!? There is a deep, deep social sickness in Oakland. One can only imagine what they were saying. “You had it coming, you motherf*ckers!
/2008 Bush voters?
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:51:46pm |
re: #129 zombie
Fuck. I don’t understand how ANYONE can be a cop in Oakland. I know if I were one, I’d quit cause I don’t think I could bring myself to answer a call for help. Just couldn’t effin’ do it.
Friend of mine quit the NYFD when the Harlem riots erupted in 1968 or 1969, cause whenever they’d try to get to a fire scene they were pelted with rocks and bottles and frequently shot at.
I just couldn’t do that job I’m afraid.
I’m so sorry to hear about those officers, but I’ll bet you right now that AG Holder will say that’s why we have to ban assualt rifles, so CROOKS won’t get ‘em and massacre cops.
Oh and maybe he’ll say someting decent about those poor cops, if he has the time.
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LGoPs Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:51:46pm |
re: #129 zombie
The shooting incident in Oakland has now become a massacre of policemen: at least three are dead, and a fourth is either already dead too or just barely hanging on. The perp was also killed. He shot with a submachine gun at a SWAT team through a closed closet door where he was hiding out. The injured officers shot back through the door and killed the demonic scumbag.
But get this: in the NY Times article about the incident, at the very end, they report:
Taunting the police after they’ve been massacred?!?!? There is a deep, deep social sickness in Oakland. One can only imagine what they were saying. “You had it coming, you motherf*ckers! This is just the beginning! It’s payback time for Oscar!” etc.
I can’t express my sorrow enough. I’ve always been a friend to the police and this saddens me deeply.
As for these bystanders….if I’m not mistaken Berkeley is close by as well. Isn’t berkeley where the city council forbade the flying of the american flag on Fire department trucks shortly after 9-11? And Frisco speaks for itself. I know there’s a sickness through all the country but it seems to be particularly virulent in the Bay Area.
Too bad these protesters can’t be put on some kind of no-response list so that next time theyr’e in trouble and call for the police, nobody comes. I even have a motto…’What if you called 9-11 and nobody came?’
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:51:56pm |
re: #142 zombie
Oakland police have just about the hardest job in America. The anti-police bias goes all the way to the top. The outgoing police chief in fact RESIGNED in a huff after the freakin’ City Council forced 8 officers to be fired after a shyster ambulance-chasing lawyer falsely accused them of doling the paperwork wrong for a search warrant. The City Council lambasted the officers in public, before there was any trial or proof. The chief said, basically — I’m outta here. You people are nuts. You want a police chief? Get your own damn police chief. Now this. Every day something outrageous happens.
Seriously? They’re not going to get anyone after this point. Sort of sounds like Portland, OR.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:52:15pm |
re: #140 Chicken Kiev
should say “zombie,” not “zombir” — unless you’d like a Turkish-sounding nickname.
“zombir” sounds vaguely sinister, like a Bulgarian secret agent or something. I’ll take it.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:53:40pm |
re: #149 zombie
“zombir” sounds vaguely sinister, like a Bulgarian secret agent or something. I’ll take it.
Secret Agent Ma’am?
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Geepers Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:53:51pm |
zombie (#129),
Next time they’ve got a problem with a nut with a gun I bet they’ll call the cops to come save their sorry asses.
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Chicken Kiev Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:54:06pm |
It sickens me to think of the celebrations that I KNOW are going on in Oakland’s thug quarters tonight. AND in Oakland’s World Can’t Wait chapter. Call me psychic. I just KNOW it.
Being a cop is an utterly thankless task in some towns.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:54:46pm |
re: #144 Syrah
The article seems to be trying to tie this in with the Oscar Grant incident.
All the MSM reports are doing that. Even though Grant was shot by an officer of a completely separate police agency —- BART — that just happened to be in Oakland at that moment. Doesn’t matter — all the cops are conflated by the anti-cop activists.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:55:20pm |
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LGoPs Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:56:22pm |
I’d love to see a blue flu in Oakland. A real serious one - for as long as it takes to drive the point home - police yourselves motherfuckers.
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Mich-again Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:56:26pm |
re: #142 zombie
Oakland police have just about the hardest job in America. The anti-police bias goes all the way to the top. The outgoing police chief in fact RESIGNED in a huff after the freakin’ City Council forced 8 officers to be fired after a shyster ambulance-chasing lawyer falsely accused them of doling the paperwork wrong for a search warrant. The City Council lambasted the officers in public, before there was any trial or proof.
What does Iron Fist say about giving the anarchists exactly what they want. Shoot them between the eyes. Who needs law enforcement.
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:56:33pm |
re: #133 Gus 802
Disgusting. Imagine being a cop in that area and having to come back the next day to protect those people.
There are days when I am inclined to allow the Oakland police to simply withdraw from the flats.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:57:18pm |
re: #154 zombie
All the MSM reports are doing that. Even though Grant was shot by an officer of a completely separate police agency —- BART — that just happened to be in Oakland at that moment. Doesn’t matter — all the cops are conflated by the anti-cop activists.
I wonder if it’s possible to set up a ‘civilization has ended’ scenario, and then force the howling savages civic activists to partake of it - from the victim’s perspective.
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Shug Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:57:51pm |
re: #149 zombie
“zombir” sounds vaguely sinister, like a Bulgarian secret agent or something. I’ll take it.
Doesn’t zombir play that flute on those late night infomercials?
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:58:10pm |
re: #159 Dianna
There are days when I am inclined to allow the Oakland police to simply withdraw from the flats.
They should do something. That 20 bystanders taunted the cops is unacceptable. If the mayor doesn’t say anything to the public with force in his words then all is lost.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:58:13pm |
re: #156 Gus 802
Any word on the perp?
Aside from dead as a doornail — nope. I suspect he was just some random street thug who didn’t want to get arrested for any of his innumerable outstanding warrants.
Good riddance.
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Chicken Kiev Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:58:19pm |
I hold organizations such as this one responsible for the loss of those brave officers: Oakland-based CAPE, aka Coalition Against Police Executioners, and what they mean is that COPS are the “executioners” of poor innocent victims such as Oscar Grant. Their website has a “video tribute” to Grant — this group and many others like it exist for the sheer purpose of whipping the flames of anti-cop hatred.
Get that attitude raging throughout a city … get assholes who want to play “hero” by killing cops … and this is what happens.
Thanks, radicals. This is on YOU.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:59:38pm |
re: #163 zombie
Probably a junkie. No doubt someone that should have been in prison for what he did in the past but was released because of the “rehabilitation” mentality.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:59:46pm |
re: #142 zombie Well to be honest with ya zombie, if LGFer Wyatt Earp was here, he’d probably say Philly cops have it worse - the idiot fucking mayor of Philly - Nutter (no, really, that’s his name, not just a description of his personality) has closed I don’t know how many cop and fire stations this year.
But for all who are saying out here “Fuck it, I wouldn’t answer an emergency call from those bastards”, y’all gotta realize that that’s what cops DO.
They risk their lives everyday for us and they wouldn’t remain on the force if they couldn’t go out on an emergency call in one of the worst neighborhoods in Oakland.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:00:31pm |
re: #165 Shug
Oakland needs
Robocopto be turned into an ‘Escape from New York’ replica.
There, FTFY!
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:00:46pm |
re: #162 Gus 802
They should do something. That 20 bystanders taunted the cops is unacceptable. If the mayor doesn’t say anything to the public with force in his words then all is lost.
The Mayor? The Mayor? Hahahahahaha. We’re talkin’ Ron Dellums here. The worst mayor since…since…well, since Oakland’s previous mayor. He’ll send out grief counselors to the taunters.
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Chicken Kiev Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:00:48pm |
Will protests be staged in honor of the dead perp?
Nothing would surprise me in the land of no souls.
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Syrah Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:01:02pm |
re: #154 zombie
All the MSM reports are doing that. Even though Grant was shot by an officer of a completely separate police agency —- BART — that just happened to be in Oakland at that moment. Doesn’t matter — all the cops are conflated by the anti-cop activists.
We may have to give those activist what they want, … a police free zone. They may object to the walls* that we will have to put up around it but there would be some justice in making them live in the anarchic paradise that they are demanding.
*like the movie “Escape from New York.”
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:01:18pm |
re: #142 zombie
Oakland police have just about the hardest job in America. The anti-police bias goes all the way to the top. The outgoing police chief in fact RESIGNED in a huff after the freakin’ City Council forced 8 officers to be fired after a shyster ambulance-chasing lawyer falsely accused them of doling the paperwork wrong for a search warrant. The City Council lambasted the officers in public, before there was any trial or proof. The chief said, basically — I’m outta here. You people are nuts. You want a police chief? Get your own damn police chief. Now this. Every day something outrageous happens.
Zombie? Is this story bothering you?
The motorcycle cops would have been wearing vests, and the SWAT folks would have been more heavily armored than that.
You cite the article as mentioning a sub-machine gun. That fires a pistol round, and the perp was firing 1) at motorcycle cops from his car (? article did not make that clear to me) and 2) through a closed closet door.
There is something wrong with this story. How the hell are these three cops dead? Where were they struck? I don’t understand this. Is there any further clarification?
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:01:34pm |
re: #169 zombie
The Mayor? The Mayor? Hahahahahaha. We’re talkin’ Ron Dellums here. The worst mayor since…since…well, since Oakland’s previous mayor. He’ll send out grief counselors to the taunters.
I was afraid that might be the case.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:02:48pm |
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Shug Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:02:50pm |
re: #170 Chicken Kiev
Will protests be staged in honor of the dead perp?
Nothing would surprise me in the land of no souls.
They will discuss Root causes and how the system failed him.
how the tax dollars from hard working california citizens, just weren’t enough. How society turned his back on him. How years of racism, opression, and the lack of available healthcare and High definition television turned him into a reactionary.
and the poverty pimps and hucksters will explore the lawsuits and the money to be made
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Erik The Red Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:03:00pm |
Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.
Blue please send me a energy pack.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:03:25pm |
re: #171 Syrah
We may have to give those activist what they want, … a police free zone. They may object to the walls* that we will have to put up around it but there would be some justice in making them live in the anarchic paradise that they are demanding.
*like the movie “Escape from New York.”
GMTA!
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:03:30pm |
re: #177 Erik The Red
Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.
Blue please send me a energy pack.
What’s and energy pack?
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:03:54pm |
re: #162 Gus 802
They should do something. That 20 bystanders taunted the cops is unacceptable. If the mayor doesn’t say anything to the public with force in his words then all is lost.
Dellums, heaven preserve us, has an aide who passes confidential police information to her gang-member son.
Oakland has been doomed for a long time.
The flats are a nightmare, and the violence is starting to invade the tourist areas and downtown. There was a bad shooting incident in front of the State building not six months ago. In that case, however, at least one cop managed to take out the perps.
Who were idiots of the sort Zombie describes.
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Erik The Red Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:04:10pm |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:04:35pm |
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swamprat Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:05:24pm |
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:05:31pm |
re: #169 zombie
The Mayor? The Mayor? Hahahahahaha. We’re talkin’ Ron Dellums here. The worst mayor since…since…well, since Oakland’s previous mayor. He’ll send out grief counselors to the taunters.
Now, now! At least Jerry Brown wanted to curfew parolees.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:05:43pm |
re: #180 Dianna
Dellums, heaven preserve us, has an aide who passes confidential police information to her gang-member son.
Oakland has been doomed for a long time. The flats are a nightmare, and the violence is starting to invade the tourist areas and downtown. There was a bad shooting incident in front of the State building not six months ago. In that case, however, at least one cop managed to take out the perps. Who were idiots of the sort Zombie describes.
Holy $hit! Are you serious about the aide?!?!
Sounds like DC, about fifteen years ago…
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:05:58pm |
re: #180 Dianna
Dellums, heaven preserve us, has an aide who passes confidential police information to her gang-member son.
Oakland has been doomed for a long time.
The flats are a nightmare, and the violence is starting to invade the tourist areas and downtown. There was a bad shooting incident in front of the State building not six months ago. In that case, however, at least one cop managed to take out the perps.
Who were idiots of the sort Zombie describes.
I’ve known about the murder rate in Oakland for a long time. I tried to avoid Oakland at all costs when I lived in SF.
If Dellums is passing confidential information he should go on trial.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:06:29pm |
re: #184 Dianna
Now, now! At least Jerry Brown wanted to curfew parolees.
What’s Jeery bin upto lately?
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BlueCanuck Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:07:01pm |
re: #177 Erik The Red
Morning/afternoon Erik. Energy pack sent.
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Erik The Red Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:07:54pm |
re: #188 BlueCanuck
Morning/afternoon Erik. Energy pack sent.
This auto comment feature is great.
Thanks
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:08:07pm |
re: #185 PSGInfinity
Holy $hit! Are you serious about the aide?!?!
Sounds like DC, about fifteen years ago…
Try searching for “Nevius”. He covers this nonsense.
He started out as a sports writer, of all things.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:08:19pm |
Couple of assholes on Twitter:
Three cops, one suspect killed in Oakland. Gov. says its a sad day for cops. 4 people died. I called it Oscar’s Revenge: [Link: bit.ly…]
4 minutes ago from TweetDeckbrandonlacycamp
4 Police Officers Shot, Oakland, CA. 3 dead 1 in grave condition; 2 SWAT & 2 Patrol. Will the cops go anti-“rodney king” on Oakland?
3 minutes ago from webPresidenToor
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Killian Bundy Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:08:42pm |
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:09:08pm |
re: #186 Gus 802
I’ve known about the murder rate in Oakland for a long time. I tried to avoid Oakland at all costs when I lived in SF.
If Dellums is passing confidential information he should go on trial.
Dellums isn’t. He’s just so freakin’ incompetent that he can’t figure out how corrupt and dangerous Oakland’s city government has become.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:10:04pm |
re: #172 Dianna
Well the story that zombie linked to indicated that the two motorcycle cops were bleeding from the head. Not enough armour on the head to protect from any amount of bullets. Most bullet resistant vests only cover the torso, and any other armour is at a minimum. So the perp firing from the closet could have hit the legs and maybe hit some serious arteries in the lower regions. Only way I could see it happening.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:10:43pm |
re: #193 Dianna
Dellums isn’t. He’s just so freakin’ incompetent that he can’t figure out how corrupt and dangerous Oakland’s city government has become.
Dellums is well past his prime. But, you know the left. They’ll vote of any liberal puppet.
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:12:01pm |
re: #191 Gus 802
Couple of assholes on Twitter:
Fucking scumbags…..they never get it in their empty skulls that cops are there to keep them from being raped, robbed or killed and if something happens, cops are the ones who will go after the person who did it to you, at risk to their lives.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:12:45pm |
re: #163 zombie
re: #172 Dianna
Please go to #143 Gus 802’s comment and link.
In relevent part it says
OAKLAND — In the most horrific day of Oakland Police Department history, three police sergeants were shot to death by the same gunman within two hours of each other. A fourth officer involved in a second shooting with the suspect also was wounded and is in extremely critical condition Saturday night.The three veteran officers killed were all sergeants: Erv Romans, 43, , Dan Sakai, 35, and Mark Dunakin, 41,, police said. This was the first time that any sergeants in the department have been slain. Officer John Hege, 41, of Concord is on life support at Highland Hospital. A fifth officer was grazed by a bullet. He was treated and released from the hospital.
The suspect is identified as Lovell
Mixon, 27, of Oakland who was on parole for assault with a deadly weapon, has not been released, police said. He had no-bail warrant for her arrest for violating parole. He has prior convictions in Alameda County for grand theft and possession of marijuana.
The incident represents the highest number of police officers ever killed in the line duty on the same day in Oakland.
“This is just unbelievable, everyone is in shock,” said one Oakland police sergeant.
The first shooting happened in the 7400 block of MacArthur Boulevard about 1:16 p.m. when two motorcycle officers were shot to death during a traffic stop. What led to the shooting was not immediately known.
A man, who did not want be identified, said he heard gunshots and saw the officers laying on roadway.
“I went over to one officer and saw he was bleeding from his helmet pretty bad,” he said. “The other officer was laying motionless.”
He said the officer laying near a car had two gun shot bullets near in his face. One bullet was lodged in his jaw and the other in his neck. The man proceeded to give the officer CPR until other police arrived, he said.
Dozens of Oakland police, California Highway Patrol officers and Alameda County sheriff deputies had cordoned off stretches of blocks around 73rd and 74th Avenues and MacArthur Boulevard before learning information that the suspect was holed up in an apartment around the corner on 74th Avenue.Two hours later SWAT officers were wounded and killed in an exchange of gunfire while trying to arrest the suspect holed up in an apartment a block away from the first shooting.
No other word or information I know about this.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:12:58pm |
re: #196 talon_262
Fucking scumbags…..they never get it in their empty skulls that cops are there to keep them from being raped, robbed or killed and if something happens, cops are the ones who will go after the person who did it to you, at risk to their lives.
/forget it Jake, it’s California
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:13:41pm |
re: #196 talon_262
Fucking scumbags…..they never get it in their empty skulls that cops are there to keep them from being raped, robbed or killed and if something happens, cops are the ones who will go after the person who did it to you, at risk to their lives.
They’re brain dead.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:13:56pm |
re: #129 zombie
The shooting incident in Oakland has now become a massacre of policemen: at least three are dead, and a fourth is either already dead too or just barely hanging on. The perp was also killed. He shot with a submachine gun at a SWAT team through a closed closet door where he was hiding out. The injured officers shot back through the door and killed the demonic scumbag.
But get this: in the NY Times article about the incident, at the very end, they report:
Taunting the police after they’ve been massacred?!?!? There is a deep, deep social sickness in Oakland. One can only imagine what they were saying. “You had it coming, you motherf*ckers! This is just the beginning! It’s payback time for Oscar!” etc.
I can’t reply right now. The hate is too strong. I’ll be back when I’ve settled down.
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:14:20pm |
re: #187 PSGInfinity
What’s Jeery bin upto lately?
He’s the CA attorney general. He likes doing things like filing suit against car manufacturers for pollution.
He wants to run for governor again. As if the diamond lane and bike lanes weren’t idiotic legacy enough for any one man.
To be absolutely fair, Jerry tried to get Oakland on something resembling an even keel. He was hamstrung by his pc thinking, and by the fact that Oakland’s government makes San Francisco’s look sane - look at the time the Oakland City Council wanted to outlaw smoking in private residences (condos downtown - I didn’t follow it all that closely, but it was loony). But at least Jerry had some concept that socializing everything doesn’t work. He boosted charter schools (there are some problems with those in Oakland, which I know a bit more about than I’m really happy with, but anything’s better than Oakland’s public schools), and he promoted businesses and other revenue generating activities.
Dellums is destroying even the baby steps Brown made toward Oakland not being a basket case.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:14:49pm |
re: #197 realwest
Oh, that had the perp information right there. Sometimes I get too caught up in searching for links and information that I read too quickly.
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LGoPs Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:15:09pm |
re: #200 Dark_Falcon
I can’t reply right now. The hate is too strong. I’ll be back when I’ve settled down.
I’m with you.
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:15:53pm |
re: #196 talon_262
Fucking scumbags…..they never get it in their empty skulls that cops are there to keep them from being raped, robbed or killed and if something happens, cops are the ones who will go after the person who did it to you, at risk to their lives.
They won’t keep it from happening, but they will investigate.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:16:01pm |
The suspect is identified as Lovell Mixon, 27, of Oakland who was on parole for assault with a deadly weapon, has not been released, police said. He had no-bail warrant for her arrest for violating parole. He has prior convictions in Alameda County for grand theft and possession of marijuana.
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:17:36pm |
re: #198 Killian Bundy
/forget it Jake, it’s California
Which makes me feel sorry for Charles, zombie, and all of our other CA LFGers, being surrounded by nihilist wastes of skin…being in Tennessee, I can feel confident that most of my state has a respect or at least an understanding of cops. Our cops ain’t perfect, but at least most of us respect them…
/Memphis, however, is a whole ‘nother beast…
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:17:37pm |
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:18:12pm |
re: #197 realwest
I read it, and I can’t quite make sense of it. It’s very badly written, very unclear.
If they were hit in the head, well…
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Mich-again Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:18:30pm |
re: #209 Gus 802
He had no-bail warrant for her arrest for violating parole.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:18:46pm |
You never know in the Bay Area. Could have been a shim.
///
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PSGInfinity Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:19:14pm |
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MrPaulRevere Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:19:22pm |
Oakland California, birth place of Huey Newton and the black panthers. ‘Nuff said. Prayers for the families of the slain officers.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:19:36pm |
re: #164 Chicken Kiev
I hold organizations such as this one responsible for the loss of those brave officers: Oakland-based CAPE, aka Coalition Against Police Executioners, and what they mean is that COPS are the “executioners” of poor innocent victims such as Oscar Grant. Their website has a “video tribute” to Grant — this group and many others like it exist for the sheer purpose of whipping the flames of anti-cop hatred.
Get that attitude raging throughout a city … get assholes who want to play “hero” by killing cops … and this is what happens.
Thanks, radicals. This is on YOU.
Precisely! That was the whole reason for the (ANSWER-directed) Oscar Grant riots in the first place — to incite anti-police violence.
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:19:50pm |
re: #198 Killian Bundy
/forget it Jake, it’s California
Excuse me? It’s the flats of Oakland.
It’s not all of California.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:20:04pm |
re: #171 Syrah
Syrah, while I strongly feel as you do, we both know that most of the people in Oakland woudn’t shoot a cop and we couldn’t leave them behind in an Escape from NewYork Scenario. That IS part of the problem here - there were ONLY 20 or so bystanders cheering the massacre of the cops - and I know, they should all have been shot themselves - but they won’t be the only ones hurt if Oakland goes the way of Escape from NY nor will they be the only ones who will truly suffer if police don’t respond to emergency calls for assistance. There really isn’t any easy answer - except that maybe groups who cheer on and lead and provide assistance to these scumbags ought to be locked up for a couple of nights with their brothers and sisters and then see if they’ve had a change of heart when they’re released.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:20:17pm |
Three of the four dead officers were sergeants. This investigation will take a few days to sort out. One offender was identified as Lovell Mixon, 27, of Oakland who was on parole for assault with a deadly weapon. Police said. He had no-bail warrant for his arrest for violating parole. He has prior convictions in Alameda County for grand theft and possession of marijuana.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:20:39pm |
re: #201 Dianna
This I can reply to. Its worth remembering that Ron Dellums is on friendly term with Fidel Castro. During the run-up to the US invasion of Grenada he visted the island and worked with the commies there to present a report (he was a congressman at the time) that the airfield they were building there was not for military uses, when he knew that was not the case. Dellums is a traitor.
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:21:05pm |
re: #202 Gus 802
Oh, that had the perp information right there. Sometimes I get too caught up in searching for links and information that I read too quickly.
You and me both.
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:21:10pm |
re: #204 Dianna
They won’t keep it from happening, but they will investigate.
I guess I should clarify…the thugs have to do something first to be caught by the cops, then with good police work and competent prosecutors and judges, those thugs can be put away, preventing them from committing more crimes (at least while they’re in jail).
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:22:02pm |
re: #176 Shug
Spot on post Shug - wish I could give you a hundred dings for that. See my #197 to see how right you are.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:23:27pm |
re: #172 Dianna
Zombie? Is this story bothering you?
The motorcycle cops would have been wearing vests, and the SWAT folks would have been more heavily armored than that.
You cite the article as mentioning a sub-machine gun. That fires a pistol round, and the perp was firing 1) at motorcycle cops from his car (? article did not make that clear to me) and 2) through a closed closet door.
There is something wrong with this story. How the hell are these three cops dead? Where were they struck? I don’t understand this. Is there any further clarification?
At least two of the cops were shot in the head. Vests wouldn’t have helped them.
The precise type of gun used, I’m now seeing, is “an assault rifle.”
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:23:37pm |
re: #208 talon_262
Which makes me feel sorry for Charles, zombie, and all of our other CA LFGers, being surrounded by nihilist wastes of skin…being in Tennessee, I can feel confident that most of my state has a respect or at least an understanding of cops. Our cops ain’t perfect, but at least most of us respect them…
/Memphis, however, is a whole ‘nother beast…
May I point out that Charles lives somewhere in LA, zombie’s in Berkeley (or somewhere close), I’m in San Jose, and I don’t believe anyone has mentioned being in the Oakland Flats.
Which is like living in some bad parts of a lot of cities.
It’s not all of California, which is a pretty large state. Third largest in the Union, as I recall.
Stop generalizing. It doesn’t work.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:24:46pm |
re: #191 Gus 802
They aren’t even worth talking about my friend - they are pieces of shit like the one who killed those cops today.
Let’s let ‘em stew in their own juices.
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:24:52pm |
re: #219 Mich-again
Somewhere Bill Ayers is smiling tonite.
He ought to feel inadequate, seeing as he himself didn’t have the guts or the skill to off the cops himself…
/which is a good thing for the cops…
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Chicken Kiev Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:26:03pm |
Oakland Ron Dellums was officially a socialist early in his career. Wikipedia calls him the “first openly Socialist congressman.”
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:26:23pm |
re: #225 zombie
At least two of the cops were shot in the head. Vests wouldn’t have helped them.
The precise type of gun used, I’m now seeing, is “an assault rifle.”
Didn’t Grey Davis outlaw Assault Rifles?
Oh, that’s right: They guy was a criminal. Still, look for his actions to prompt yet more calls to strip us of our freedom.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:26:28pm |
re: #202 Gus 802
No Sweat at all - I understand how that happens, believe me.
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Chicken Kiev Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:26:30pm |
should say “Oakland MAYOR Ron Dellums.” Too upset about cops, typing too fast.
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:26:40pm |
re: #221 Dark_Falcon
This I can reply to. Its worth remembering that Ron Dellums is on friendly term with Fidel Castro. During the run-up to the US invasion of Grenada he visted the island and worked with the commies there to present a report (he was a congressman at the time) that the airfield they were building there was not for military uses, when he knew that was not the case. Dellums is a traitor.
Yes, he is.
I really detest Dellums. He’s doing his level best to destroy all the charter schools. All of them. He is doing his best to destroy all hope for any kind of decent future for the kids trapped in Oakland.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:27:32pm |
re: #232 realwest
No Sweat at all - I understand how that happens, believe me.
Yeah, and I am watching the LGF Spy at the same time so it makes things a little hectic since I don’t want to fall behind on the thread.
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Syrah Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:27:45pm |
re: #218 realwest
I hear you.
I think that those jeering the cops from the side lines should at least be hauled off and charged for “obstruction of justice” and even for “accessory to” if they were throwing stuff at the cops.
As far as the “Escape from New York” thing, I am half serious about that. I think that we need to have “exile” as an option. If these jokers want to live as “outlaws”, we can accommodate them by creating for them a zone without law.
I don’t know how to make such a thing work. It is just a thought.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:28:33pm |
Got another name…
Lovelle Mixon
With an “e” at the end.
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:28:47pm |
re: #225 zombie
At least two of the cops were shot in the head. Vests wouldn’t have helped them.
The precise type of gun used, I’m now seeing, is “an assault rifle.”
I want a better description than that!
An M16 fires (what amounts to) a .22 and it is “an assault rifle.” It’s not exactly an exact term.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:29:03pm |
re: #180 Dianna
Dellums, heaven preserve us, has an aide who passes confidential police information to her gang-member son.
Oakland has been doomed for a long time.
Not only did the Mayor’s top aide pass top-secret confidential police plans (for arresting gang members) to her “nephew” who happened to be a violent gang leader, but she defended herself when caught red-handed by accusing everyone in sight of racism.
When the people running the city are that corrupt, the city is in big, big trouble.
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:30:01pm |
re: #226 Dianna
May I point out that Charles lives somewhere in LA, zombie’s in Berkeley (or somewhere close), I’m in San Jose, and I don’t believe anyone has mentioned being in the Oakland Flats.
Which is like living in some bad parts of a lot of cities.
It’s not all of California, which is a pretty large state. Third largest in the Union, as I recall.
Stop generalizing. It doesn’t work.
Sorry about the generalizations about CA…we have our bad spots here too, but even in our cities (excluding Memphis), I couldn’t see the anti-cop crap happening here as it has in Oakland.
Maybe it’s circumstance, but I’d like to think that it couldn’t get that way here.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:30:25pm |
re: #210 Dianna Yeah, I understand - but I’m sure that Harry Harris and Kamika Dunlap of the Oakland Tribune were rushed in trying to get the story out cause a number of things don’t read right with that. But the killing of the two motorcycle cops appears to be from their being shot in the head and neck with a high powered assault rifle.
Whoever the scumbag is who did this is, I hope, DEAD. (you can’t even tell that for sure from that article).
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:30:41pm |
re: #235 Dianna
Yes, he is.
I really detest Dellums. He’s doing his level best to destroy all the charter schools. All of them. He is doing his best to destroy all hope for any kind of decent future for the kids trapped in Oakland.
Agreed. The individual (whom I will not call a man) hates everything that makes America great. He’s nothing but a damn commie rat.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:31:21pm |
191 Gus 802Couple of assholes on Twitter:
Three cops, one suspect killed in Oakland. Gov. says its a sad day for cops. 4 people died. I called it Oscar’s Revenge: [Link: bit.ly…]
4 minutes ago from TweetDeck
Grrrrr. This is the attitude we have to deal with around here.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:32:06pm |
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:32:26pm |
re: #217 Dianna
Dianna - what are the “flats of Oakland”? Like the Harlem of NYC or parts of South Central LA?
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:32:39pm |
re: #241 talon_262
Atlanta during the child murders. Detroit on any given Halloween. New York whenever someone not white gets shot by the police. Some sections of Chicago. Large sections of Washington DC.
Give Memphis time. I’m sure you’ll manage it.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:34:58pm |
re: #205 Gus 802
The suspect is identified as Lovell Mixon, 27, of Oakland who was on parole for assault with a deadly weapon, has not been released, police said. He had no-bail warrant for her arrest for violating parole. He has prior convictions in Alameda County for grand theft and possession of marijuana.
I just saw a picture of him. *Spit*. So many molecules wasted.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:35:46pm |
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Killian Bundy Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:35:50pm |
re: #248 Dianna
Atlanta during the child murders. Detroit on any given Halloween. New York whenever someone not white gets shot by the police. Some sections of Chicago. Large sections of Washington DC.
Give Memphis time. I’m sure you’ll manage it.
Racking up such a historic state deficit might be a bit tough.
/even light can’t escape at this point
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:35:54pm |
re: #242 realwest
Yeah, I understand - but I’m sure that Harry Harris and Kamika Dunlap of the Oakland Tribune were rushed in trying to get the story out cause a number of things don’t read right with that. But the killing of the two motorcycle cops appears to be from their being shot in the head and neck with a high powered assault rifle.
Whoever the scumbag is who did this is, I hope, DEAD. (you can’t even tell that for sure from that article).
The scumbag appears to be dead, assuming he was a lone idiot, and not an idiot in company.
But I’m curious how a high-powered assault rifle was managed inside a car. Or a closet. I really am. A handgun or a “submachine gun” (imprecise term!), at the right angle, would be more realistic.
Until more clear information emerges, I’m just complaining about things that don’t sound right.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:36:57pm |
re: #248 Dianna
Atlanta during the child murders. Detroit on any given Halloween. New York whenever someone not white gets shot by the police. Some sections of Chicago. Large sections of Washington DC.
Give Memphis time. I’m sure you’ll manage it.
What can be done to reverse this anti-police crap?
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karmic_inquisitor Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:38:23pm |
Hey Zombie
Sorry to hear about that crap happening up in your part of the state. Social fabric unraveling.
Haven’t been on a thread with you for a while but I got your reply and sent a “thank you - let me know if I can help” message back but it got rejected by the host of zombietime. Tried a couple more times and they still got kicked back (this was a couple of weeks back). Not sure why but I thought I’d let you know.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:38:25pm |
re: #237 Syrah
Yeah, I know. It would be nice if barbarians such as these could be put on an island somewhere and let THEM figure out how to live.
But I reckon some folks would then call me an extremist for even saying that. But you know, fuck them, that’s what really ought to happen. These guys who live and (not as frequently as I’d like) die by the gun ought to be left alone somewhere where they can fullfil their nihilistic wishes to the fullest. And if that makes me a bay guy, tough shit.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:38:52pm |
re: #253 Dianna
The scumbag appears to be dead, assuming he was a lone idiot, and not an idiot in company.
But I’m curious how a high-powered assault rifle was managed inside a car. Or a closet. I really am. A handgun or a “submachine gun” (imprecise term!), at the right angle, would be more realistic.
Until more clear information emerges, I’m just complaining about things that don’t sound right.
It could be a reduced size version. There are a number of reduced barrel AR-15s out there, and both it and the AKM can be modified illegally as well. An assault rifle can be made small enough to use inside a car.
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karmic_inquisitor Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:39:44pm |
re: #249 zombie
I just saw a picture of him. *Spit*. So many molecules wasted.
What ever happened to 3 strikes? Sounds like those are 3 felonies.
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:40:31pm |
re: #248 Dianna
Atlanta during the child murders. Detroit on any given Halloween. New York whenever someone not white gets shot by the police. Some sections of Chicago. Large sections of Washington DC.
Give Memphis time. I’m sure you’ll manage it.
I don’t think I was clear…I’m not a Memphian, but a Nashvillian, and Memphis has had police issues (corruption, graft, nepotism, etc., just just in the police department, but in city/county government as well) for a long time, even more so than most any other city in the state IMO. I was trying to say that I think that I could see anti-cop sentiment of the sort in Oakland happening in Memphis, some of it legitimate and some of it drummed up by race hustlers given the right circumstances.
/Memphis has a whole lot of bad craziness going on sometimes…just look at the majority of the Ford family as an example.
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:40:42pm |
re: #247 realwest
Dianna - what are the “flats of Oakland”? Like the Harlem of NYC or parts of South Central LA?
OK, Oakland starts on the edge of San Francisco Bay. Picture the Bay Bridge as running up the center of a bulge, with the docks stretching to either side for about half a mile up the sides. Between the docks and the really massive rail yards, there’s about a mile and a half to two miles of area that’s essentially empty of people.
Then you get “public housing”, warehouses, and some old neighborhoods, the Coliseum (ground zero of the drug wars), and the airport down on flat ground. That’s the flats, and it’s a war zone. I looked at a number of $1 houses there, back in the early 90’s; I’m pretty calm about bad neighborhoods, but even I wouldn’t live there. Even with a bulletproof vest and a machine gun nest on the roof.
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:41:11pm |
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
What can be done to reverse this anti-police crap?
Leave the agitators at the mercy of the gangs for a week.
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Syrah Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:42:09pm |
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
What can be done to reverse this anti-police crap?
Police have to be portrayed in our culture as heroes again.
So much of their portrayal in the rap-videos, TV-shows, movies and smear journalism make them out to monsters and or buffoons.
Its insidious. Most of what people think they know about cops comes from the media. Some of it is right, most of it is wrong.
Until the perception is changed, the problem will remain.
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karmic_inquisitor Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:42:21pm |
re: #253 Dianna
The scumbag appears to be dead, assuming he was a lone idiot, and not an idiot in company.
But I’m curious how a high-powered assault rifle was managed inside a car. Or a closet. I really am. A handgun or a “submachine gun” (imprecise term!), at the right angle, would be more realistic.
Until more clear information emerges, I’m just complaining about things that don’t sound right.
I have fired an M16 from a vehicle. Not great for the ears of either me or my driver, but it didn’t seem too awkward at the time.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:42:23pm |
re: #250 Macker
“Audio CD (March 19, 1996)
Original Release Date: 1983” from Charles link, date of this particular performance isn’t given.
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LGoPs Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:42:34pm |
Good night Lizards. May God bless those officers and their families. And may He give me the grace, patience and wisdom to quiet the deep rage that is building in me.
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:43:08pm |
PIMF…meant “corruption, graft, nepotism, etc., not just in the police department”
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Macker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:43:51pm |
re: #262 Syrah
There may be some argument here, but I believe the most prominent law enforcement officer that most people would recognize is Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio in AZ!
/new avatar
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:43:57pm |
re: #252 Killian Bundy
Racking up such a historic state deficit might be a bit tough.
/even light can’t escape at this point
Yeah.
Don’t get me started.
Did you read about Pete Stark? He claims a $1.7 million house in Maryland as his primary residence.
He represents Fremont-Hayward-San Leandro-Alameda in Congress.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:44:26pm |
re: #221 Dark_Falcon
This I can reply to. Its worth remembering that Ron Dellums is on friendly term with Fidel Castro. During the run-up to the US invasion of Grenada he visted the island and worked with the commies there to present a report (he was a congressman at the time) that the airfield they were building there was not for military uses, when he knew that was not the case. Dellums is a traitor.
You know who’s the REAL traitor? Dellums’ assistant at the time.
Dellums, as a member of the Armed Services Committee, had been given “for your eyes only” ultra- top secret pre-invasion plans for the Granada action in 1983. Dellums’ assistant saw the plans, and LEAKED THEM TO THE COMMUNIST FORCES IN GRENADA, who then were waiting for our troops. Surprise attack ruined. More casualties than necessary etc. Sheer treason.
Oh, and you may be curious, who was this out-and-out traitor?
Her name was Barbara Lee — yes, the current Congresswoman for Oakland.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:44:35pm |
re: #257 Dark_Falcon
It could be a reduced size version. There are a number of reduced barrel AR-15s out there, and both it and the AKM can be modified illegally as well. An assault rifle can be made small enough to use inside a car.
I used a CAIR 15 in Vietnam - shorter barrell and stock but otherwise an M-16 which has tremendous velocity.
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Syrah Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:45:28pm |
re: #256 realwest
Yeah, I know. It would be nice if barbarians such as these could be put on an island somewhere and let THEM figure out how to live.
But I reckon some folks would then call me an extremist for even saying that. But you know, fuck them, that’s what really ought to happen. These guys who live and (not as frequently as I’d like) die by the gun ought to be left alone somewhere where they can fullfil their nihilistic wishes to the fullest. And if that makes me a bay guy, tough shit.
Maybe we can use one of the Aleutian Islands. They are pretty remote. Not much chance of escape.
There may be ways to make this work.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:45:53pm |
How is California going to fix it’s budget deficit?
/even all the stimulus money ain’t going to close that gap
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:46:19pm |
re: #226 Dianna
May I point out that Charles lives somewhere in LA, zombie’s in Berkeley (or somewhere close)
I may report frequently on events in Berkeley, but that doesn’t mean I actually live there! It’s just the place where all the juicy stuff happens. Nothing interesting ever happens in _______.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:46:47pm |
re: #271 zombie
You know who’s the REAL traitor? Dellums’ assistant at the time.
Dellums, as a member of the Armed Services Committee, had been given “for your eyes only” ultra- top secret pre-invasion plans for the Granada action in 1983. Dellums’ assistant saw the plans, and LEAKED THEM TO THE COMMUNIST FORCES IN GRENADA, who then were waiting for our troops. Surprise attack ruined. More casualties than necessary etc. Sheer treason.
Oh, and you may be curious, who was this out-and-out traitor?
Her name was Barbara Lee — yes, the current Congresswoman for Oakland.
That I didn’t know. Why wasn’t she tried for treason?
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:46:48pm |
re: #272 realwest
I used a CAIR 15 in Vietnam - shorter barrell and stock but otherwise an M-16 which has tremendous velocity.
I hope you meant AR-15… ;-P
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:48:30pm |
New story from LA Times
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Macker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:48:47pm |
re: #274 Syrah
Maybe we can use one of the Aleutian Islands. They are pretty remote. Not much chance of escape.
There may be ways to make this work.
Well, they could make a prison out of a certain westernmost Aleutian island….
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:48:48pm |
re: #279 talon_262
I hope you meant AR-15… ;-P
It should have CAR-15. That was the reduced size AR-15 used in Vietnam.
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:48:51pm |
re: #275 Killian Bundy
How is California going to fix it’s budget deficit?
/even all the stimulus money ain’t going to close that gap
We’re not.
Everyone productive will eventually leave. The state will have to declare bankruptcy, because it can’t possibly get out of this deficit.
I’m irate. I was born here. I’ve watched a bunch of outsiders move here and ruin the state because, as has so often been pointed out, lefty wants free stuff.
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:48:55pm |
re: #276 zombie
I may report frequently on events in Berkeley, but that doesn’t mean I actually live there! It’s just the place where all the juicy stuff happens. Nothing interesting ever happens in _______.
Alcatraz?
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Macker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:49:24pm |
re: #278 Dark_Falcon
That I didn’t know. Why wasn’t she tried for treason?
Because Congress doesn’t have the balls for that.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:49:38pm |
re: #255 karmic_inquisitor
Hey Zombie
Sorry to hear about that crap happening up in your part of the state. Social fabric unraveling.
Haven’t been on a thread with you for a while but I got your reply and sent a “thank you - let me know if I can help” message back but it got rejected by the host of zombietime. Tried a couple more times and they still got kicked back (this was a couple of weeks back). Not sure why but I thought I’d let you know.
Thanks. There was a glitch in the email server a few weeks back. I think it’s back up and running now.
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:49:42pm |
re: #276 zombie
I may report frequently on events in Berkeley, but that doesn’t mean I actually live there! It’s just the place where all the juicy stuff happens. Nothing interesting ever happens in _______.
Note that I said “somewhere close.”
In the Bay Area, that means anywhere BART can take you!
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Killian Bundy Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:49:56pm |
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:50:10pm |
re: #270 Dianna
“Did you read about Pete Stark? He claims a $1.7 million house in Maryland as his primary residence.
He represents Fremont-Hayward-San Leandro-Alameda in Congress.”
Now that just HAS to be grounds for removal from office. He ran in a district 3000 miles away from where he lived!
He is, no doubt, a Democrat.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:50:32pm |
re: #288 Macker
Because Congress doesn’t have the balls for that.
Congress didn’t have to do anything back then. Ed Meese was AG at the time, couldn’t have had her indicted?
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Macker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:51:07pm |
re: #293 Dark_Falcon
Apparently he didn’t have his balls either.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:51:34pm |
re: #274 Syrah
Hey, never mind the aluetians, what are they doing with Alcatraz right now?
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:52:11pm |
re: #292 realwest
“Did you read about Pete Stark? He claims a $1.7 million house in Maryland as his primary residence.
He represents Fremont-Hayward-San Leandro-Alameda in Congress.”
Now that just HAS to be grounds for removal from office. He ran in a district 3000 miles away from where he lived!
He is, no doubt, a Democrat.
Oh, yes.
He’s a perfectly dreadful man. I remember at a town meeting in Fremont, he was asking where he could rent a townhouse cheap.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:52:55pm |
re: #277 Gus 802
He ran uncontested in Oakland right?
Basically, yes. Whoever is the Dem candidate automatically gets 75% of the vote.
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Macker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:53:12pm |
re: #295 realwest
Hey, never mind the aluetians, what are they doing with Alcatraz right now?
Now THAT is a facility which sorely needs renovation. Be sure they put in some dunk tanks for the terrorists.
Oh, that’d be waterboarding…
/
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Syrah Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:53:17pm |
re: #295 realwest
Hey, never mind the aluetians, what are they doing with Alcatraz right now?
Alcatraz is a tourist trap. Its one of California’s only money making Government enterprises. They can’t afford to lose the revenue from it right now.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:54:08pm |
re: #297 zombie
Basically, yes. Whoever is the Dem candidate automatically gets 75% of the vote.
Brainless liberals. They might as well construct a Tammany Hall.
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:54:11pm |
re: #297 zombie
Basically, yes. Whoever is the Dem candidate automatically gets 75% of the vote.
Without a single voter going to the trouble of showing up at the polls!
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:54:44pm |
re: #278 Dark_Falcon
That I didn’t know. Why wasn’t she tried for treason?
Good question. I have no good answers.
Her treachery is well-known to in-the-loop political people in the Bay Area — which is one of the reasons she’s so popular and loved.
We live in topsy-turvy world.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:55:30pm |
re: #299 Syrah
Alcatraz is a tourist trap. Its one of California’s only money making Government enterprises. They can’t afford to lose the revenue from it right now.
Make a tourist gallery part of the renovation. The tourists would get to throw unplesant things at the convicts. Burns off public anger and makes the inmates miserable. win-win.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:56:44pm |
re: #302 zombie
Good question. I have no good answers.
Her treachery is well-known to in-the-loop political people in the Bay Area — which is one of the reasons she’s so popular and loved.
We live in
topsy-turvyBizzaro world.
Improved
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Dianna Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:56:55pm |
re: #300 Gus 802
Brainless liberals. They might as well construct a Tammany Hall.
Plunkett at least understood that things have to work. Honest graft, as annoying as it is to those of us who understand how it undermines society, at least gets the freakin’ potholes fixed.
Tammany lasted as long as it did because it understood that basic services had to be provided, and loyalty had to be rewarded. The current system, as practiced by Democrat mayors and City Councils, actually punishes its most loyal voters.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:56:56pm |
re: #303 Dark_Falcon
Make a tourist gallery part of the renovation. The tourists would get to throw unplesant things at the convicts. Burns off public anger and makes the inmates miserable. win-win.
/you’ll have to bring the convicts back
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Chicken Kiev Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:57:49pm |
By the way, Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums’s son happens to be a murderer:
Michael Dellums, the son of Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums, was denied parole today for his second-degree murder conviction for killing a reputed drug dealer in Oakland in 1979….
According to a letter that Dr. David Grubb wrote to a judge on Aug. 9, 1979, Ron Dellums “has not been a major figure in Michael’s life.”
Grubb said Dellums “began to get into legal trouble at an early age” and was a truant from school.
Grubb said Dellums himself estimated that he committed more than 100 burglaries in the North Oakland area.
Grubb said Dellums also was convicted of malicious mischief, burglary, multiple purse snatchings, armed robbery, petty and grand theft and auto theft.
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:58:15pm |
re: #279 talon_262
Sorry, no - just a typo it was a CAR-15.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:58:18pm |
re: #306 Killian Bundy
/you’ll have to bring the convicts back
That was what we were talking about, I thought. [not intending to be snarky]
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Dustyvet Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:58:18pm |
Dire Straits - Money For Nothing
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:59:08pm |
re: #305 Dianna
Yeah, it’s amazing that by now the libs haven’t figured this out yet. After all of these years (since LBJ) that these liberal Democrats that they vote for year after year in these cities don’t perform.
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karmic_inquisitor Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:59:35pm |
Barbara Lee’s traitorous acts
[Link: www.frontpagemag.com…]
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:59:44pm |
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:01:26pm |
re: #281 Gus 802
From your link: “The suspect, Lovelle Mixon, was also killed in the gunfire. Mixon, 27, was wanted on a no-bail warrant for violating his parole on a conviction of assault with deadly weapon.”
[emphasis added, realwest] If that motherfucker was wanted on a no bail warrant, why the hell was he free on those streets?!
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Killian Bundy Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:01:28pm |
/a dedication for our friends out there in California
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:02:01pm |
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Syrah Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:03:03pm |
re: #312 Gus 802
Yeah, it’s amazing that by now the libs haven’t figured this out yet. After all of these years (since LBJ) that these liberal Democrats that they vote for year after year in these cities don’t perform.
They find their self justification in the purity of their intentions, not the results of their actions.
They are thus incapable of “figuring out” that their ideas are bad. Their intentions were and are all that mater to them.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:03:51pm |
re: #316 realwest
From your link: “The suspect, Lovelle Mixon, was also killed in the gunfire. Mixon, 27, was wanted on a no-bail warrant for violating his parole on a conviction of assault with deadly weapon.”
[emphasis added, realwest] If that motherfucker was wanted on a no bail warrant, why the hell was he free on those streets?!
Because they don’t care. He’s 27 which means his adult life started 8 to 9 years ago. They used to put people in jail for assault with a deadly weapon for 10 years in older times. Which means like you said, “why was he on the streets?”
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:03:52pm |
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Killian Bundy Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:04:07pm |
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realwest Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:04:48pm |
Gotta crash NOW my friends. I hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
And if you’re so inclined, please join me in saying a prayer for those officers and their families.
Good night, all.
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stevieray Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:05:02pm |
Pretty near all of the problems we see today are due to one simple shift — from a culture/society/moral code based on the enlightenment, to one based on entitlement.
Entitlement is the worst mind cancer yet conceived. Easily spread, it brings irresponsibility, bitterness, smugness, and resentment along as coattail infections. Cripples all it touches.
Until America purges the entitlement mentality from its schools, media, and even some churches, the decay will continue.
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:05:11pm |
re: #319 Macker
I thought for many years they said tits for free…
/snicker
Chicks, tits…can’t really have one without the other… ;-P
/
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:05:19pm |
re: #320 Syrah
They find their self justification in the purity of their intentions, not the results of their actions.
They are thus incapable of “figuring out” that their ideas are bad. Their intentions were and are all that mater to them.
So basically they’re adhering to a utopian idea. More than likely it is a form of denial if not a hallucinatory state of being.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:06:56pm |
re: #326 stevieray
Pretty near all of the problems we see today are due to one simple shift — from a culture/society/moral code based on the enlightenment, to one based on entitlement.
Entitlement is the worst mind cancer yet conceived. Easily spread, it brings irresponsibility, bitterness, smugness, and resentment along as coattail infections. Cripples all it touches.
Until America purges the entitlement mentality from its schools, media, and even some churches, the decay will continue.
Agreed. I’m going to pack it in, too. Good night all.
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Macker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:08:09pm |
re: #323 Killian Bundy
See if you can guess this parody:
“T-I-T-T-I-E-S!
When they’re big they are the best!”
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:09:05pm |
re: #314 karmic_inquisitor
Barbara Lee’s traitorous acts
[Link: www.frontpagemag.com…]
Good link. But Horowitz didn’t even know the worst of it. After she collaborated with the Grenadan ciommunists (which Horowitz mentions), she phoned in military plans to the enemy.
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:10:08pm |
re: #334 Macker
See if you can guess this parody:
“T-I-T-T-I-E-S!
When they’re big they are the best!”
Dunno that one, but Al Bundy said it best:
Hooters, hooters, yum, yum, yum
Hooters, hooters on a girl that’s dumb!
/
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Syrah Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:11:07pm |
re: #328 Gus 802
So basically they’re adhering to a utopian idea. More than likely it is a form of denial if not a hallucinatory state of being.
I think that from a non-utopian world view, the Utopianist look like stark raving nutters.
They would likely say as much about us.
The conflict of visions of the world between them and us is so great that when we talk to them, we may be using the same words, but they mean different things.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:12:14pm |
A local television report just confirmed what the NY Times said — that there are “celebrations” in parts of Oakland over this shooting.
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Dustyvet Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:12:34pm |
Five Signs of a Flailing Presidency
[Link: rpc.blogrolling.com…]
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Macker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:12:47pm |
re: #336 talon_262
OK here’s another hint:
“Just a little tit (uh-huh)…just a little tit.”
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:12:50pm |
re: #338 zombie
A local television report just confirmed what the NY Times said — that there are “celebrations” in parts of Oakland over this shooting.
Fucking sick, the lot of them…
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Chicken Kiev Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:13:07pm |
A blogger celebrates the cops’ deaths:
Doing the rounds tonight, I came across a story of these cops getting shot at. Let me find out the brothers in Oakland are up to big ‘tings!
AND
MORE FYAH! Show them some real POLICE BRUTALITY!
(He means this ironically — as in, show brutality to the police.)
AND
My Thoughts go out to the brave soliers of Oakland. The police are going to want revenge!
(By “soliers” he means “soldiers” as in thugs who kill cops.)
The motto of his blog is “…because the trauma of racism and slavery has had the illest effect on us…”
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:13:30pm |
re: #338 zombie
A local television report just confirmed what the NY Times said — that there are “celebrations” in parts of Oakland over this shooting.
Disgusting. I hope they send a news crew out to video tape these animals.
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zombie Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:16:19pm |
re: #343 Gus 802
Disgusting. I hope they send a news crew out to video tape these animals.
If you were a news cameraman, would you take that risk? A sense of lawlessness and empowerment (of the criminals) accompanies these celebrations.
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Dustyvet Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:16:20pm |
Three police sergeants dead, suspect killed in East Oakland gun battles
[Link: www.mercurynews.com…]
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solomonpanting Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:16:24pm |
re: #319 Macker
I thought for many years they said tits for free…
/snicker
Misheard lyrics—(toward the end)
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:17:52pm |
re: #345 zombie
If you were a news cameraman, would you take that risk? A sense of lawlessness and empowerment (of the criminals) accompanies these celebrations.
No. It’s amazing if you think about it. Basically Oakland is out of control. Three others were shot in the area in another incident and a man was found dead on his driveway. These people lack discipline.
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Chicken Kiev Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:20:32pm |
#343 Gus802
I hope they send a news crew out to video tape these animals
.
Never happen. News crews are liberals. Liberals have an agenda. The liberal agenda is to NEVER EVER EVER show predetermined victim groups behaving in an unbecoming way.
Also: News crews are made of flesh and blood. News crews would probably be shot for filming those parties.
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karmic_inquisitor Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:21:03pm |
re: #348 Gus 802
No. It’s amazing if you think about it. Basically Oakland is out of control. Three others were shot in the area in another incident and a man was found dead on his driveway. These people lack discipline.
Sadr City in Iraq is safer.
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:22:03pm |
re: #349 Chicken Kiev
#343 Gus802
.
Never happen. News crews are liberals. Liberals have an agenda. The liberal agenda is to NEVER EVER EVER show predetermined victim groups behaving in an unbecoming way.
Also: News crews are made of flesh and blood. News crews would probably be shot for filming those parties.
Yeah, liberal rule number 12. “Never show a protected (human) species in a bad light.”
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Gus Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:24:50pm |
re: #350 karmic_inquisitor
Sadr City in Iraq is safer.
At this rate you have to wonder what Oakland will be like in 20 years.
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BatGuano Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:25:20pm |
re: #345 zombie
We are in the end times. Not in the Biblical sense, but in the collapse of civilization. It’s is happening in Europe and now America.
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stevieray Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:28:04pm |
The punk’s face will be on posters and tee shirts by Monday… along side Mumia, as victims/martyrs in “the struggle”.
/”the struggle” to live as feral parasites, apparently… that’s the main accomplishment of “the struggle” in the past few decades.
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TedStriker Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:29:48pm |
re: #342 Chicken Kiev
A blogger celebrates the cops’ deaths:
(By “soliers” he means “soldiers” as in thugs who kill cops.)
The motto of his blog is “…because the trauma of racism and slavery has had the illest effect on us…”
Check out my response to this racist “revolutionary”…thought it was quite keen.
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solomonpanting Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:33:21pm |
I realize the figures are several years old but check out the Large Cities with Highest Murder Rate .
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stevieray Sat, Mar 21, 2009 11:33:35pm |
re: #353 BatGuano
We are in the end times. Not in the Biblical sense, but in the collapse of civilization. It’s is happening in Europe and now America.
Hollowed out by entitlement.
No need to build, to preserve, protect, or defend. You’re already entitled to the good things that flow from civilization! No need to learn, to work… that’s not part of the entitlement equation… that’s for the other guy to worry about. Just cash in your victim or privilege chips, and get your fair share!
/
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zombie Sun, Mar 22, 2009 12:10:18am |
re: #358 solomonpanting
Get ready for the new tee shirts.
zombie predicts:
The first step will be to interview his grieving mother and “devastated” family, who will all say “He was a good boy.” Next, he will be added to a list of “victims” who were “killed by police” in 2009.
If I was really really venal, I’d be silkscreening those T-shirts right now.
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solomonpanting Sun, Mar 22, 2009 12:13:27am |
re: #359 zombie
If I was really really venal, I’d be silkscreening those T-shirts right now.
You’d make a killing.
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studioTech Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:11:24am |
Time to get up and strut! I love the musical surprises on this site. Trouble is, this sent me on an hour-long journey through you-tube, ending with Bob Dylan and the Stones!
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GT Charlie Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:56:58pm |
Hiatt is freaking awesome! Great (and prolific) songwriter. Quirky voice (but who cares).
That’s a couple of good ‘ol Louisiana boys backing him up…
Sonny (from Lafayette) is da Man when it comes to slide. Nobody better. Any time. Anywhere. Nuff said.
Dave Ranson (from LC, I think) is an excellent bass guitarist, and the king of cool.
I’m gonna go put on my John Hiatt shirt!
Charlie
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