Obama Laughs Too Much, Kroft Asks: ‘Are You Punch-Drunk?’

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Here’s a transcript from President Obama’s appearance on 60 Minutes tonight, in which Obama kept breaking into laughter so much while discussing the total collapse of the US economic system, Steve Kroft asked him if he was “punch-drunk:”

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

I just want to say that— the only thing less popular than putting money into banks is putting money (LAUGHS) into the auto industry. So—

STEVE KROFT:

18 percent are in favor.

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

(LAUGHS) That’s—

STEVE KROFT:

Seventy-six percent against.

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

It— it— it’s not a high number.

STEVE KROFT:

You’re sitting here. And you’re— you are laughing. You are laughing about some of these problems. Are people going to look at this and say, “I mean, he’s sitting there just making jokes about (LAUGHTER) money—” How do you deal with— I mean, wh— explain -

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

Well—

STEVE KROFT:

—the mood and your laughter.

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

Yeah, I mean, there’s got to be—

STEVE KROFT:

Are you punch drunk?

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

No, no. There’s gotta be a little gallows humor to (LAUGHS) get you through the day. You know, sometimes my team— talks about the fact that if— if you had said to us a year ago that— the least of my problems would be Iraq, which is still a pretty serious problem— I don’t think anybody would have believed it. But— but we’ve got a lot on our plate. And— a lot of difficult decisions that we’re going to have to make.

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1128 comments
1 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:10:03pm

Was it some evil laugh like Nyah-ha-ha!

I think 0 is really trying to ruin the country.

2 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:10:05pm

seriously, its like a 5 year old is president. a really daft 5 year old

3 Desert Dog  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:10:10pm

Snoop Dogg's Kronik must have arrived over at the White House, eh?

4 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:11:06pm

Gallows humor? I call it flop sweat.

5 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:11:13pm

Punch drunk? No, Obama's just fucking clueless and completely stupid, IMHO.

6 vagabond trader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:11:20pm

Good grief, this hyena holds the nuke codes.

7 screaming_eagle  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:12:03pm

The USA is gonna down the tubes.................Obama laughs..............

8 Digital Display  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:12:05pm

I'm watching him...He called it Gallows humor to get you through the day..
oh boy....

9 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:12:06pm

jokes on you America.

10 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:12:27pm

"Punch drunk" is that another way of asking if he's stoned out of his fucking mind?

11 gregg  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:12:32pm

This is the first time I've used the "F" word in one of my posts, but I need to ask, what is it when we've gone beyond being f*ucked? OK, I didn't quite use it...

12 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:12:35pm

re: #6 vagabond trader

Good grief, this hyena holds the nuke codes.

I know, I'm frightened of that fact.

13 vagabond trader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:12:54pm

I miss Richard Nixon.

14 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:13:15pm

re: #9 pegcity

jokes on you America.

More like yolk. Hand me a towel.

15 Opinionated  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:13:17pm

He thinks he's at the Special Olympics.

16 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:13:19pm
Are you punch drunk?

That comes from too many blows to the midsection by his devotees.

17 Killian Bundy  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:13:26pm

I still want a hair sample.

/he's not right

18 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:13:42pm

Who does Obama think he is, Tom Cruise?

19 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:13:47pm

He won't even be a competent tyrant.

20 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:13:48pm

this will make tomarrows headlines...BO is melting

21 LGoPs  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:13:49pm

He probably smoked some weed before the interview. Our first stoner President........
Heaven help us.

22 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:14:10pm

FUCK.
WAD.

It needed saying.

23 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:14:23pm

Read the full transcript.

This man has no fucking idea of how our economy works.

None.

I think he wants to de-stratify our economy so that it works on a subsistence level so that he can then understand it.

At least McCain had the humility to say he wasn't an expert.

Obama is expert at rhetoric. That is it. Nothing else. Not law. Not the Constitution. Not warfare. Not diplomacy. Not at paying bills (he had a lousy credit rating prior to getting his book money).

And he certainly doesn't understand economics. Not. At. All.

We are all fucked.

24 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:14:42pm

re: #18 HelloDare

Who does Obama think he is, Tom Cruise?

Did he jump up on the sofa?

25 vagabond trader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:15:03pm

Did the teleprompter instruct him to giggle?

26 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:15:08pm

Wow, with stuff like this. His clueless appearance on Leno. I wonder how many people that voted for him are experiencing cognitive dissonance.

27 Opinionated  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:15:11pm

Not having been attacked again IS PROOF that it has made us safer.

28 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:15:39pm

re: #11 gregg

This is the first time I've used the "F" word in one of my posts, but I need to ask, what is it when we've gone beyond being f*ucked? OK, I didn't quite use it...

No clue. I guess it's more a degree of being really fucked.
Fucked
Really Fucked
Super-duper Fucked
Really Super-duper Fucked
Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition
Really Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition
Extremely Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition

I'm guessing we're about to hit stage 3 or 4 here.

29 Aviator  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:15:41pm

Hell, I miss Jimmy Carter.

30 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:15:46pm

if Steve Kroft can do it anybody can....national TV...this is pretty big imo

31 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:15:46pm

re: #24 The Other Les

Did he jump up on the sofa?

LOL!

32 vagabond trader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:15:54pm

re: #26 BlueCanuck

All 52% no doubt.

33 Desert Dog  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:16:10pm

re: #20 albusteve

this will make tomarrows headlines...BO is melting

What's you talking about, Willis? This will not appear on any headline, nor be mentioned by the MSM

34 Clutch  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:16:24pm

I'll bet this schmuck will have a nervous breakdown and have to be hospitalized (institutionalized) before half his single term is up. That's what happens when you select a child to do an adult's job (trying not to be misanthropic here ;-) ).

DO NOT TRUST THE DEMOCRAT ROBOT.

35 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:16:26pm

Oh my God!

This is unbelievable.

36 filbert23  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:16:40pm

He's just tickled pink about sending the country down the tubes.

EEE-HAH, I WON!

37 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:16:44pm

re: #23 karmic_inquisitor

Read the full transcript.

This man has no fucking idea of how our economy works.

None.

I think he wants to de-stratify our economy so that it works on a subsistence level so that he can then understand it.

At least McCain had the humility to say he wasn't an expert.

Obama is expert at rhetoric. That is it. Nothing else. Not law. Not the Constitution. Not warfare. Not diplomacy. Not at paying bills (he had a lousy credit rating prior to getting his book money).

And he certainly doesn't understand economics. Not. At. All.

We are all fucked.

You need to remember that in Newspeak, ignorance is strength.

Yep. We're fucked.

38 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:16:53pm

Q: What's the difference between Obama and Jimmy Carter.

A: A rabbit.

39 sneezey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:16:58pm

So he is turning out to be a terrible President... big deal. All that matters is the election was 'historic', and Michelle Obama looks glamorous without sleeves. Welcome to the New America.

40 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:17:10pm

This man needs to resign.

41 Mithrax  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:17:20pm

76% against isn't a big number?

Man oh man......I thinkit's time to find a really small country, or a very remote place and sit this out out for a while.

42 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:17:22pm

Our esteemed President....... (wow).

43 Happy Fun Ball  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:17:36pm

How many times did he put his pinky to his mouth?

44 screaming_eagle  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:17:41pm

But— but we’ve got a lot on our plate. And— a lot of difficult decisions that we’re going to have to make.

Like:
Who's coming to Wed's party.
Who do I demonize next.
What else I can tax.
Where do I realease the Gitmo prisoners.
Why not outlaw ALL guns.

45 vagabond trader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:17:42pm

re: #35 Gus 802

Not unbelievable, but definitely an Oh My Gawd moment.

46 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:17:54pm

re: #33 Desert Dog

What's you talking about, Willis? This will not appear on any headline, nor be mentioned by the MSM

give it a coupla days...I didn't mean headlines at the Times...and 60Min is the MSM...shit can happen

47 SlartyBartfast  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:17:55pm

Steve Kroft just added his name to the list. Robert Gibbs will call him out tomorrow...

Punch-drunk President.

God help us!

48 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:17:57pm

re: #38 HelloDare

Q: What's the difference between Obama and Jimmy Carter.

A: A rabbit.

Good one, but even Carter took longer to fully fuck every thing up than Obama has.

49 sneezey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:17:58pm

Drunk? No.
Maybe he's back to his college ways?

50 gregg  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:17:58pm

re: #33 Desert Dog

What's you talking about, Willis? This will not appear on any headline, nor be mentioned by the MSM

If it is mentioned, it will be: "Obama not rattled by crisis".

51 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:18:03pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

good luck with that.... they guy thinks he's Jesus Christ.....

52 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:18:08pm

re: #29 Aviator

Hell, I miss Jimmy Carter.

I remember Jimmy Carter and I don't miss him.

53 ciceroskip  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:18:47pm

He must have tripped and fell and hit his headwhen he hit the ground running.

54 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:18:52pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

This man needs to resign.

Bears repeating. Go back to #40 and ding it up!

55 Digital Display  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:18:55pm

re: #30 albusteve

if Steve Kroft can do it anybody can....national TV...this is pretty big imo

Oh goody..We get a tour of the grounds after the break..I'm getting that warm and Jackie moment...

56 gregg  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:19:04pm

re: #50 gregg

If it is mentioned, it will be: "Obama not rattled by crisis".

Slight correction: "Obama not rattled by crisis he inherited from Bush".

57 Reluctant Democrat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:19:07pm

Hey, don't get too up or too down! It's only a coupla trillion!

The guy is nuts. It's like he is a SNL version of a president.

58 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:19:12pm

re: #32 vagabond trader

All 52% no doubt.

Some of them will flat out refuse to reconsider their decision.

It would make them feel bad.

59 sinsremoved  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:19:13pm

I'm not as dunch prunk as you think I am.

60 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:19:15pm

I have a sister who laughs uncontrollably at everything, serious, stupid or funny when she is drunk. The O likes his cocktails.

61 Aviator  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:19:18pm

re: #38 HelloDare

Q: What's the difference between Obama and Jimmy Carter.

A: A rabbit.

At least Carter tried to whack the rabbit with a paddle. This fuckwit would try to understand root causes while it bit the shit out of him.

62 Opinionated  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:19:27pm

Why do AIG executives have to give back their pay for their mistakes but Obama voters are allowed to vote again?

63 OldLineTexan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:20:07pm

re: #62 Opinionated

Why do AIG executives have to give back their pay for their mistakes but Obama voters are allowed to vote again?

Some sins are not forgiven.

64 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:20:10pm

Obama's punch drunkenness is leading to my REAL drunkenness.

65 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:20:12pm

Fucking laughing!

66 SFGoth  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:20:13pm

re: #62 Opinionated

Why do AIG executives have to give back their pay for their mistakes but Obama voters are allowed to vote again?

Some of them even voted twice!

67 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:20:34pm

re: #55 HoosierHoops

Oh goody..We get a tour of the grounds after the break..I'm getting that warm and Jackie moment...

just wait bro....this stuff adds up and we need the media to help...BO is NOT invincable...on the contrary he is very weak

68 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:20:41pm

re: #11 gregg

This is the first time I've used the "F" word in one of my posts, but I need to ask, what is it when we've gone beyond being f*ucked? OK, I didn't quite use it...

A friend of mine describes our current condition as "being raped with a 40-grit condom, no lube, while being told we enjoy it."

Does that come anywhere close, for you?

69 Aviator  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:20:51pm

re: #52 The Other Les

I remember Jimmy Carter and I don't miss him.

I remember him too, but he was better than this boob. Gah, I can't believe it.

70 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:20:55pm

A regular comedian. Problem is nobody's laughing.

71 right_wing2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:20:56pm

Too much laughter at inappropriate things. Not a good sign.

72 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:20:58pm

re: #45 vagabond trader

Not unbelievable, but definitely an Oh My Gawd moment.

Jaw dropping.

Anyone see my jaw?

//

73 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:21:03pm

Maybe the country should have elected Tom Cruise.

Google Video
74 OldLineTexan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:21:08pm

re: #65 Sharmuta

Fucking laughing!

OMG, Shar is freebasing Viagra!

NOOOOOOOOOOO!

/

75 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:21:13pm

I haven't seen the clip yet but I'm guessing it's like a nervous tick or verbal crutch. If you pay attention a lot of people do it, usually in awkward situations where they want people to like them.

76 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:21:21pm

re: #65 Sharmuta

Fucking laughing!

If you were in his shoes, wanting to do to America what he does, and you were succeeding as he is, wouldn't you be laughing too?

77 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:21:22pm

Funny he should call it gallows humor, then again , NO its not....

78 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:21:26pm

Isn't it tradition for a POTUS to wait until the tail end of his second term before becoming a lame duck?

79 vagabond trader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:21:41pm

Heh, you should hear what he laughs about when he's out of camera/mike range.

80 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:21:51pm

The economy is in the toilet, people are out of work, losing their homes, losing their savings, losing their retirements- and he's fucking laughing!

81 axegrinder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:21:52pm

But if he cracks, we get Biden. Never thought I'd say it, but... Nancy Pelosi for President! At least we wouldn't have to worry about her being elected in 2012. I think.

82 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:22:04pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

I haven't seen the clip yet but I'm guessing it's like a nervous tick or verbal crutch. If you pay attention a lot of people do it, usually in awkward situations where they want people to like them.

haha!....haha!....(looks around)

83 OldLineTexan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:22:06pm

re: #68 Dianna

Oh crap, is it review time again?

/

84 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:22:09pm

re: #38 HelloDare

Q: What's the difference between Obama and Jimmy Carter.

A: A rabbit.

Jimmy Carter was a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy and had a degree in a hard subject. Die Grosse Null is the product of an institution that has effectively degenerated into a diploma mill for well heeled leftists.

85 UberInfidel67  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:22:10pm

I think I just figured out why Obi stammers so much. He has to keep his mouth moving to avoid gritting his teeth after taking a "bump". I know people like that. Can't stay still and made odd movements to distract.

86 slterry40  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:22:21pm

Maybe he was laughing because he was thinking about a retarded person bowling

87 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:22:28pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

Seems to me even the interviewer is taken aback.

88 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:22:38pm

Obama and Pelosi set off "Witch Hunt" against bankers -

"They will send the United States back to the stone age"

89 reine.de.tout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:22:41pm

Obama says:

But— but we’ve got a lot on our plate. And— a lot of difficult decisions that we’re going to have to make.

What the heck did he think the job of Pres of the US was gonna be?

90 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:22:44pm

re: #81 axegrinder

But if he cracks, we get Biden. Never thought I'd say it, but... Nancy Pelosi for President! At least we wouldn't have to worry about her being elected in 2012. I think.

Shit, I'd take Biden right now. Damn, even Pelosi would be marginally more competent.

91 mfarmer1  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:22:48pm

Expect a 24/7 live webcam showing the new White House garden very soon. The MSM can then spend hours per day on the airwaves and in print with arugula updates.

92 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:22:51pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

This man needs to resign.

Should he do this, would it mean Joe Biden steps up to the plate?

93 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:22:53pm

Punchdrunk? Hell- I wonder if he's smoking weed again.

94 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:23:03pm

re: #80 Sharmuta

The economy is in the toilet, people are out of work, losing their homes, losing their savings, losing their retirements- and he's fucking laughing!

Disgusting isn't it, its all just a funny game to the Marxist.

95 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:23:04pm

Maybe coke again!

96 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:23:19pm

re: #80 Sharmuta

The economy is in the toilet, people are out of work, losing their homes, losing their savings, losing their retirements- and he's fucking laughing!

He is laughing because his plan is wording so well. This is NO SURPRISE.

You can bet Soros is laughing too.

97 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:23:23pm

Dr. Strangelove

President Strange Laugh

98 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:23:27pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

I haven't seen the clip yet but I'm guessing it's like a nervous tick or verbal crutch. If you pay attention a lot of people do it, usually in awkward situations where they want people to like them.

I knew a guy like that. It was incessant and distracting. Still, couldn't help but feel sorry for the guy. Obama, not so much.

99 LGoPs  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:23:35pm

Seems that all this poseur knows how to do is interview and preen for the cameras.
How 'bout actually fucking accomplishing something, especially when the country's economy is going down the toilet?
This shouldn't be a great surprise coming from someone who really has had everything handed to him with little to no effort.
We've handed our country over to a spoiled child........

100 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:23:35pm

re: #93 Sharmuta

Punchdrunk? Hell- I wonder if he's smoking weed again.

He might have resin in the brain.

101 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:23:37pm

re: #92 A Kiwi Infidel

Should he do this, would it mean Joe Biden steps up to the plate?

Sorry- Biden might be an improvement.

102 RondinellaMamma  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:23:43pm

...hmmm...will the incriminating video disappear into oblivion tomorrow?...or will it be played in perpetuity like to video of his teleprompter gaffe with the Irish pm?

(sarc off)

103 MandyManners  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:24:00pm

re: #93 Sharmuta

Punchdrunk? Hell- I wonder if he's smoking weed again.

Pass a box of DingDongs under his nose. You'll know.

104 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:24:06pm

How do we (collectively) call for new elections? (If ever we needed to do this, now is the time.....)

105 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:24:06pm

he will cease doing TV...a sure sign he could not handle it

106 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:24:16pm

Well, Steve Kroft better hire some bodyguards.

107 Truck Monkey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:24:16pm

Ummmm, Ahhhhh, errrrr ummmmm The buck stops here, ummmmm but, I inherited this mess, and it ain't my fault.

108 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:24:17pm

re: #81 axegrinder

But if he cracks, we get Biden. Never thought I'd say it, but... Nancy Pelosi for President! At least we wouldn't have to worry about her being elected in 2012. I think.


You beat me to it.

109 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:24:37pm

re: #103 MandyManners

Pass a box of DingDongs under his nose. You'll know.


DingDongs.....
BWAHAHAHAHA.

110 MandyManners  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:24:51pm

Maybe he's not on drugs but is just a fucking idiot.

111 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:03pm

re: #89 reine.de.tout

Obama says:

What the heck did he think the job of Pres of the US was gonna be?

Parties and show.

My president wants to party all the time.

Youtube Video

Ugh.

112 RondinellaMamma  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:04pm

re: #66 SFGoth

Darling,
they're democrats...some probably even came back from the dead to vote.

113 coldpizza  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:09pm

Last week Bernake on 60 Minutes exhibited confidence and Monday the markets did well. Tonight Obama made me feel extremely insecure and I'm pissed cause I need the markets to soar tomorrow. I hope Geitner can deliver some confidence to the "fearful masses" tomorrow at 11:30am.

Obama is turning out to be a disaster like we all predicted. Problem is we need to turn these markets around so I was hoping the guy could be looked at as admirable.
Not happening.

114 Desert Dog  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:16pm

re: #70 JammieWearingFool

A regular comedian. Problem is nobody's laughing.

I know a few that are: Ahmadinejad and the Mullahs, Kim Jong Il and Chavez are laughing out loud right now

115 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:19pm

re: #110 MandyManners

Maybe he's not on drugs but is just a fucking idiot.

Ding ding ding ding!

116 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:25pm

re: #101 Sharmuta

Sorry- Biden might be an improvement.


You are probably right. The way the O is going ANYBODY would be an improvement (well, almost)

117 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:33pm

re: #92 A Kiwi Infidel

Should he do this, would it mean Joe Biden steps up to the plate?

Not sure Biden would be worse. I have always been of the opinion that Obama was so popular over Hillary among old elected dems like Kennedy was that they knew he would be easiest to control.

118 Aviator  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:34pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

I haven't seen the clip yet but I'm guessing it's like a nervous tick prick or verbal crutch. If you pay attention a lot of people do it, usually in awkward situations where they want people to like them.

FIFY

119 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:35pm
120 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:41pm

re: #72 Gus 802

Jaw dropping.

Anyone see my jaw?

//

I think it's fallen into a bottomless chasm.

Sorry about that. Will it make speech difficult?

121 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:45pm

re: #61 Aviator

At least Carter tried to whack the rabbit with a paddle. This fuckwit would try to understand root causes while it bit the shit out of him.

Maybe 0bama will meet this rabbit.

122 screaming_eagle  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:48pm

re: #110 MandyManners

Maybe he's not on drugs but is just a fucking idiot.

But he looks to be A fucking idiot on drugs.

123 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:25:57pm

re: #106 Gus 802

Well, Steve Kroft better hire some bodyguards.

I've said all along that the person that stands up and calls out BO will be famous...somebody will now want to outdo Kroft...it will snowball and the MSM will move to cover their worthless ass....

124 MandyManners  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:26:13pm

re: #110 MandyManners

Maybe he's not on drugs but is just a fucking idiot.

I just said that I hoped that the POTUS is a fucking idiot instead of a druggie.

How low has the United States of America fallen?

125 David Simon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:26:17pm

They're talking about a fucking swing set?!

126 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:26:21pm

re: #123 albusteve

I've said all along that the person that stands up and calls out BO will be famous...somebody will now want to outdo Kroft...it will snowball and the MSM will move to cover their worthless ass....

I like that scenario!

127 axegrinder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:26:29pm

Somebody put together a montage of homelessness, scared children crying on the sidewalk with furniture piled in the front yard next to the foreclosure sign, dead soldiers returning from Afghanistan, soup kitchen lines and dead car assembly lines on one half of the screen and BHO laughing on the other. And play it on the news everyday on the hour for two months.

128 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:26:34pm

re: #103 MandyManners

Pass a box of DingDongs under his nose. You'll know.

He has a Congress full of Ding Dongs

129 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:26:40pm

re: #77 DEZes

Funny he should call it gallows humor, then again , NO its not....

My idea of gallows humor?
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130 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:26:44pm

re: #120 Dianna

I think it's fallen into a bottomless chasm.

Sorry about that. Will it make speech difficult?

Nah, I'll use smoke signals.

//

131 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:26:48pm

re: #92 A Kiwi Infidel

Should he do this, would it mean Joe Biden steps up to the plate?

Joe Biden may be a Leftist idiot, but he couldn't possibly be as dumb as The Big Zero.

132 Happy Fun Ball  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:26:55pm

re: #120 Dianna

I think it's fallen into a bottomless chasm.

Sorry about that. Will it make speech difficult?

Maybe, but you still wouldn't need to take a teleprompter wherever you go.

133 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:27:03pm

re: #78 Slumbering Behemoth

Isn't it tradition for a POTUS to wait until the tail end of his second term before becoming a lame duck?

We have precedent, now. GWB was a lame duck the day after his reelection in 2004.

134 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:27:07pm

re: #129 Kosh's Shadow

My idea of gallows humor?
[deleted]

I refrained as well.

135 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:27:10pm

Shit. Watch the Dow tomorrow, and shithead will be giving a presser on Tuesday.

136 mikeytrix  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:27:11pm

America elected Elmo Blatch

137 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:27:13pm

Obama the comedian: Take my wife, please.

(crickets)

138 gregg  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:27:15pm

re: #92 A Kiwi Infidel

Should he do this, would it mean Joe Biden steps up to the plate?

Good point. How hard is it to immigrate to New Zealand?

139 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:27:28pm

Obama Haiku

President Liar
Laughing his silly ass off
Markets going down

140 Opinionated  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:27:31pm

He admits to getting/being lost.

We know.

141 LGoPs  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:27:34pm

re: #119 buzzsawmonkey

For the first time in his adult life, he realizes his country is a hell of a lot bigger than he is.

For the first time in my adult life, I am actually scared for my country.
No sarcasm.

142 right_wing2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:27:55pm

re: #90 Honorary Yooper

Shit, I'd take Biden right now. Damn, even Pelosi would be marginally more competent.

My CAT would be more competent.

143 That's Mr. President to you  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:28:05pm

[out of character]

Anyone who thinks my schtick has been over the top in how it portrays Obama as :
+ insensitive
+ self absorbed
+ incompetent
+ media hungry
+ arrogant
and
+ sociopathic

I offer this interview as support for how I portray the guy.

144 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:28:13pm

re: #106 Gus 802

Well, Steve Kroft better hire some bodyguards.

He can ask Joe the Plumber how to weather the storm. Joe went from pluimber to journalist. Kroft can go the other direction.

145 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:28:18pm

It's his way of trying to keep his cool.

What an ass.

146 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:28:31pm

re: #141 LGoPs

For the first time in my adult life, I am actually scared for my country.
No sarcasm.

buck up...

147 mattm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:28:36pm

re: #73 HelloDare

Maybe the country should have elected Tom Cruise.

[Video]

Hell, I would rather have Cruise than 0. Almost anyone could do a better job.

148 midwestgak  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:28:36pm

"But - we've got a lot on our plate." Boo hoo.

seesh. So has every president before him. A leader doesn't weaken his/her position by constantly complaining. Conclusion: He is no leader.

Sorry - stating the obvious.

149 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:28:40pm

re: #97 HelloDare

Dr. Strangelove

President Strange Laugh

George C. Scott as General Turgidson describing a B-52 in low level nap-of-the-Earth flight.

150 simonml  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:28:40pm

I hate Obama

151 mfarmer1  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:28:57pm

Upcoming appearances on "The View", "Dancing with the Stars", and a special guest appearance on "Lost" thus explaining the [blowing] smoke monster, and his first 100 days will be in the bag and hailed as a grand success.

152 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:29:01pm

re: #97 HelloDare

Dr. Strangelove

President Strange Laugh

Mein Fuehrer Soros!
I can fuck [up the country]!

153 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:29:08pm

re: #125 David Simon

They're talking about a fucking swing set?!

Priorities, Dontcha know!

154 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:29:20pm

re: #144 solomonpanting

He can ask Joe the Plumber how to weather the storm. Joe went from pluimber to journalist. Kroft can go the other direction.

No doubt. Kroft is going to face some serious heat for even asking that question to Il Duce Obama.

155 Killian Bundy  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:29:23pm

Does he wear lipstick?

/or are his lips naturally that bizarre blue tint?

156 coldpizza  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:29:31pm

Obama even used the "Depression" word... What a complete dick this prick is turning out to be..

157 Edouard  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:29:45pm

He is a campaigner. He is a symbol and even an icon to many people.

He is NOT a down-in-the-trenches leader of human beings.

At this point -- the presidential campaign needs to be over already.

The symbol, the icon are showing their seams, their cracks.

A TRENCH LEADER is no-fucking-where to be found.

158 LGoPs  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:29:50pm

re: #142 right_wing2

My CAT would be more competent.

At least your cat would have an excuse for being a pussy.....
/

159 Achilles Tang  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:29:54pm

I don't get the strategy here.

How does going on popular TV shows enhance the presidency? I thought we had things like press secretaries, radio addresses and State of the Nation conventions for this stuff.

Next thing you know he'll be interviewed by Playboy and admit he has looked at white women with lust in his mind, or something like that.

Seems another fool president did that in times past.

160 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:30:00pm

re: #20 albusteve

this will make tomarrows headlines...BO is melting

Not surprisingly, I think the interview will help him. Since he started his charm offensive this week, his gallop approval poll numbers are going up. He's getting his ducks in a row for the new budget. The folks that like BHO will like the interview, those that don't, won't. Personally, I think he needs to be careful to not do a media blitz like this every week, or it'll backfire at some point.

161 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:30:05pm

re: #138 gregg

Good point. How hard is it to immigrate to New Zealand?


Not hard........bring money..............and beer...........and your arsenal, if you can get it past customs.

162 ladycatnip  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:30:06pm

Nero fiddled while Rome burned...

163 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:30:09pm

re: #155 Killian Bundy

Does he wear lipstick?

/or are his lips naturally that bizarre blue tint?

MYOB!....(good question)

164 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:30:09pm

re: #155 Killian Bundy

Does he wear lipstick?

/or are his lips naturally that bizarre blue tint?

Interesting. That might indicate that he's not getting enough oxygen.

165 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:30:18pm

Couple weeks ago I was ranting that this destruction is on purpose. Naturally I was excoriated. Anybody starting to think that too? I was told I needed evidence. Is this not evidence enough?

166 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:30:19pm

re: #154 Gus 802

No doubt. Kroft is going to face some serious heat for even asking that question to Il Duce Douche Obama.

FIFY.

167 vagabond trader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:30:23pm

Isn't a comment about gallows verging on racist? Just sayin'

168 LesLein  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:30:35pm

re: #11 gregg

This is the first time I've used the "F" word in one of my posts, but I need to ask, what is it when we've gone beyond being f*ucked? OK, I didn't quite use it...

"To know yourself is the ultimate form of aggression (Freudian psychology)." Based on the election results it seems that a lot of the country has a yearning to know itself.

169 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:30:38pm

re: #143 That's Mr. President to you

[out of character]

Anyone who thinks my schtick has been over the top in how it portrays Obama as :
+ insensitive
+ self absorbed
+ incompetent
+ media hungry
+ arrogant
and
+ sociopathic

I offer this interview as support for how I portray the guy.

The last one is what the laughter at financial catatrophe indicates. The technical term is 'inapropriate affect', and it is a prime indicator of sociopathology.

170 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:30:45pm

re: #101 Sharmuta

Sorry- Biden might be an improvement.

He'd be hauled out in a white jacket with overlong sleeves before 24 hours had passed.

If Nancy Pelosi is sworn in, I'm heading for rural America. Because John Ringo will no longer be a science fiction writer, but a prophet.

171 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:30:54pm

re: #166 Honorary Yooper

FIFY.

Thank you.

172 Digital Display  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:31:00pm

Dang it! I wanted a tour of the China room..forget the grounds..I can google earth that..Come on Obama!

173 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:31:12pm

re: #160 avanti

Are you really that clueless? He sounds like a complete idiot in the interview.

174 obscured by clouds  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:31:13pm
You know, sometimes my team— talks about the fact that if—

Your team?! What team would that be?! What team have you actually assembled to deal with this sh!t?! Geithner alone? OMG. Geithner's going to crack like that stupid "egg of power" Obama has in the oval office, dropped from the heights of Obama's arrogance. Economic straits that we haven't seen since the late '70s and this dolt can't even put together a treasury cabinet.

175 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:31:19pm

re: #160 avanti

Not surprisingly, I think the interview will help him. Since he started his charm offensive this week, his gallop approval poll numbers are going up. He's getting his ducks in a row for the new budget. The folks that like BHO will like the interview, those that don't, won't. Personally, I think he needs to be careful to not do a media blitz like this every week, or it'll backfire at some point.

I never underestimate the willfull ignorance of his supporters

176 right_wing2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:31:26pm

"Suppose President Obama was on drugs.
Suppose President Obama is a moron.
But I repeat myself"

177 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:31:27pm

re: #160 avanti

Personally, I think he needs to be careful to not do a media blitz like this every week, or it'll backfire at some point.

Try tonight, when millions of Americans will see him laughing at their economic pain.

178 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:31:49pm

what a contrast with Stephen Harper.

Boy you guys got screwed

179 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:31:49pm

re: #165 kansas

Couple weeks ago I was ranting that this destruction is on purpose. Naturally I was excoriated. Anybody starting to think that too? I was told I needed evidence. Is this not evidence enough?

we've debated that for months

180 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:31:51pm

re: #173 Honorary Yooper

Are you really that clueless? He sounds like a complete idiot in the interview.

That was a rhetorical question wasn't it.

181 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:31:58pm

re: #160 avanti

Not surprisingly, I think the interview will help him. Since he started his charm offensive this week, his gallop approval poll numbers are going up. He's getting his ducks in a row for the new budget. The folks that like BHO will like the interview, those that don't, won't. Personally, I think he needs to be careful to not do a media blitz like this every week, or it'll backfire at some point.

Charles -

Your blog needs an ignore feature.

182 MandyManners  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:32:00pm

Before I kick Avanti's ass from here to the Grand Canyon, I'm gonna' leave. bbiaw

183 OldLineTexan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:32:36pm

re: #167 vagabond trader

Isn't a comment about gallows verging on racist? Just sayin'

No, it's not.

184 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:32:37pm

re: #143 That's Mr. President to you

[out of character]

Anyone who thinks my schtick has been over the top in how it portrays Obama as :
+ insensitive
+ self absorbed
+ incompetent
+ media hungry
+ arrogant
and
+ sociopathic

I offer this interview as support for how I portray the guy.

Actually, IMO, all of your posts have been dead nuts on.

185 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:32:39pm

re: #159 Naso Tang

I don't get the strategy here.

How does going on popular TV shows enhance the presidency? I thought we had things like press secretaries, radio addresses and State of the Nation conventions for this stuff.

Next thing you know he'll be interviewed by Playboy and admit he has looked at white women with lust in his mind, or something like that.

Seems another fool president did that in times past.

He is not trying to enhance the Presidency. You guys need to stop thinking like that. This is a role he is playing. It's all one big fucking joke, he is drunk on the power. We are his pawns. He is King 0bama, the biggest baddest motherfucker to walk the in the landscape of his mind.

He is deranged.

186 MandyManners  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:33:01pm

re: #169 Salamantis

The last one is what the laughter at financial catatrophe indicates. The technical term is 'inapropriate affect', and it is a prime indicator of sociopathology.

Sociopathology and narcissism are along the same continuum.

187 MandyManners  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:33:16pm

Bye for sure now.

188 coldpizza  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:33:19pm

re: #178 pegcity

what a contrast with Stephen Harper.

Boy you guys got screwed

Dude, we even didnt let in that Anti-semetic prick Galloway. Thank God for our Canadian Government.
The USA is finished.

189 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:33:27pm

re: #178 pegcity

what a contrast with Stephen Harper.

Boy you guys got screwed

Never have I considered myself so lucky to live in Canada after seeing what has been happening south of the border over the past several months.

190 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:33:32pm

Rush will be on fire tomorrow.

191 Truck Monkey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:33:44pm

re: #113 coldpizza

Last week Bernake on 60 Minutes exhibited confidence and Monday the markets did well. Tonight Obama made me feel extremely insecure and I'm pissed cause I need the markets to soar tomorrow. I hope Geitner can deliver some confidence to the "fearful masses" tomorrow at 11:30am.

Obama is turning out to be a disaster like we all predicted. Problem is we need to turn these markets around so I was hoping the guy could be looked at as admirable.
Not happening.

Take your money out of the market and buy gold. We are now in the process of monetizing the debt. Hyper-inflation will not be far behind, oh, that and the crashing of the American Dollar.

192 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:33:45pm
193 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:33:46pm

re: #185 pink freud

He is not trying to enhance the Presidency. You guys need to stop thinking like that. This is a role he is playing. It's all one big fucking joke, he is drunk on the power. We are his pawns. He is King 0bama, the biggest baddest motherfucker to walk the in the landscape of his mind.

He is deranged.

Sociopathology is typically paired with megalomania.

194 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:33:47pm

re: #160 avanti

Sometimes, avanti's posts make some sense.
This isn't one of them.
So, avanti, has the 0 been sharing his drugs with you or something?

195 Opinionated  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:33:50pm

If you missed him on 60 Minutes don't despair.

Catch him next week on Celebrity Apprentice President.

196 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:33:54pm

re: #186 MandyManners

Sociopathology and narcissism are along the same continuum.

Obama is, as we've delved into here before, a malignant narcissist. We've started to see the "malignant" part come out.

197 right_wing2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:34:03pm

re: #162 ladycatnip

Nero fiddled while Rome burned...

And The Obamessiah giggled while the market crashed

198 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:34:04pm

re: #130 Gus 802

Nah, I'll use smoke signals.

//

There used to be a large quantity of the right kind fuel (in this context) growing out in back of the Fort Snelling National Cemetery. But it was basically ditch weed.

199 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:34:08pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

This man needs to resign.

Are you sure he doesn't deserve a six million dollar retention bonus?

200 Aviator  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:34:12pm

re: #173 Honorary Yooper

Are you really that clueless? He sounds like a complete idiot in the interview.

Asking Avanti if he is clueless is like asking if an old Studebaker leaks oil.

201 Beller0ph1  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:34:21pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

This man needs to resign.

You said it! Though, it would probably take an act of G-d Himself to convince the Me$$iah to relinquish his post.

202 gregg  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:34:29pm

re: #161 A Kiwi Infidel

Not hard........bring money..............and beer...........and your arsenal, if you can get it past customs.

I'm coming for the beer. This beer will be available in NZ soon:

[Link: www.stuff.co.nz...]

203 missykrissy  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:34:37pm

What makes you think he's only PUNCH drunk?

204 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:34:42pm

re: #188 coldpizza

"The USA is finished".

Don't count on it.

205 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:34:51pm
206 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:34:59pm
207 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:35:13pm
208 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:35:24pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

This man needs to resign.

Again, because it bears repeating. Go and ding up #40!

209 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:35:38pm

re: #185 pink freud

yes and further he's intentionally wrecking the economy...I say again

210 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:35:59pm

Too bad hubris, ignorance and smirkiness aren't taxable.

211 gregg  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:36:11pm

re: #178 pegcity

what a contrast with Stephen Harper.

Boy you guys got screwed

If Harper has any sense, he'll drop corporate tax rates and see how many U.S. corporations he can lure north.

212 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:36:12pm

re: #208 Honorary Yooper

Again, because it bears repeating. Go and ding up #40!


Done.

213 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:36:19pm

Ha ha ha
Ho Ho Ho
and a couple of la-de-da's,
That's how we laugh the day away
In the merry old land of Obamaz.

214 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:36:24pm

re: #150 simonml

I hate Obama

I don't hate Obama, I see him as a problem to be solved.

215 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:36:43pm

I think we are witnessing the complete dissolution of the Democratic party.

Remember - they have absolutely nothing to fall back on.

The last 6 years have been about personality - attacking Bush, promoting Obama.

Well guess what - America is seeing this clown for what he is, and the Democrats can't turn to a "big idea" to justify their reign other than "blame someone else".

They have only themselves to blame.

216 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:36:50pm

re: #191 Truck Monkey

Take your money out of the market and buy gold. We are now in the process of monetizing the debt. Hyper-inflation will not be far behind, oh, that and the crashing of the American Dollar.

I have some gold in Jamaica...not enough it seems now

217 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:36:53pm
218 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:37:24pm

re: #211 gregg

If Harper has any sense, he'll drop corporate tax rates and see how many U.S. corporations he can lure north.

hes been trying to for 3 years, the other parties ie the commies won't let him

219 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:37:35pm

re: #217 Iron Fist

Upding for restraint. :-)

220 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:37:47pm

re: #157 Edouard

He is a campaigner. He is a symbol and even an icon to many people.

He is NOT a down-in-the-trenches leader of human beings.

At this point -- the presidential campaign needs to be over already.

The symbol, the icon are showing their seams, their cracks.

A TRENCH LEADER is no-fucking-where to be found.

Can we dig up Winston Churchill? His mother was an American too.

221 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:38:02pm

re: #214 The Other Les

I don't hate Obama, I see him as a problem to be solved.

And every problem is an opportunity!

/yeah!

222 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:38:04pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

This man needs to resign.

Sharmuta, you got an automatic upding for this (rule #1, all Sharmuta posts get an upding), but do we really want Lunchbucket Joe as Prez?

223 Promethea  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:38:26pm

re: #19 The Other Les

He won't even be a competent tyrant.

It's always "fun" to read about the foibles of the various Roman emperors over the years.

224 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:38:39pm

re: #178 pegcity

what a contrast with Stephen Harper.

Boy you guys got screwed

We certainly did.

225 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:38:51pm

yes we can (hee hee hee)....

/

226 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:39:09pm

re: #222 Jim in Virginia

Sharmuta, you got an automatic upding for this (rule #1, all Sharmuta posts get an upding), but do we really want Lunchbucket Joe as Prez?

I'd take Joe over Obama in a heartbeat.

227 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:39:12pm

i was just listening to some Reagan speeches, what the hell, how did america go from reagan to Boozie the Clown

228 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:39:20pm

re: #170 Dianna

He'd be hauled out in a white jacket with overlong sleeves before 24 hours had passed.

If Nancy Pelosi is sworn in, I'm heading for rural America. Because John Ringo will no longer be a science fiction writer, but a prophet.

We need a Coup of the Adults.

229 David Simon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:39:21pm

re: #192 ploome hineni

I miss Benedict Arnold

The war hero yes; the traitor no.

230 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:39:31pm

Joe Biden was offered VP as an insurance policy.

I will take Joe over Obama. Just like I will take a Cat 1 hurricane over a Cat 5.

231 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:39:32pm

re: #165 kansas

Couple weeks ago I was ranting that this destruction is on purpose. Naturally I was excoriated. Anybody starting to think that too? I was told I needed evidence. Is this not evidence enough?

NO. Here's the problem with the right's Cloward Piven conspiracy theory: If Obama really wanted to destroy the economy the easiest way to do it would be to let the banking system fail. The economy would implode almost immediately. The only people "seriously" talking about not bailing out the banks are the Tea Party folks on the right.

232 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:39:40pm

re: #222 Jim in Virginia

Sharmuta, you got an automatic upding for this (rule #1, all Sharmuta posts get an upding), but do we really want Lunchbucket Joe as Prez?

He could nominate a new VP and get himself the hell out of town with the new VP (hillary?) taking over. But frankly, yes. As frightening as this sounds, at this point, I trust Biden more than 0bama.

233 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:39:41pm

I guess avanti and all of the other dems out there must be swelling with pride right now - huh?

234 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:39:44pm

People of the world. We are the change we have been waiting for.
What? Are you shitting me?

235 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:39:49pm

re: #222 Jim in Virginia

This man needs to resign

.Sharmuta, you got an automatic upding for this (rule #1, all Sharmuta posts get an upding), but do we really want Lunchbucket Joe as Prez?

When that special olympics kid beats Obama at bowling, doesn't that mean he becomes president?

236 mfarmer1  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:39:58pm

Incompetence reigns
A few trillion here and there
Look at her toned arms

237 ronsfi  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:00pm

You. Have. Got. To. Be. KIDDING!

238 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:01pm
239 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:09pm

We want JOE!

240 midwestgak  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:11pm

re: #199 itellu3times

Are you sure he doesn't deserve a six million dollar retention bonus?

Sure, and give it a 90% tax. Oh wait . . . why stop there? Why not a 110% tax?/ That makes as much sense - which means it makes no sense at all!

241 gregg  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:12pm

The first time the White House burned down was 1814 when the British set it afire. The second time will be sometime in the next four years when Obama's meth lab blows up in the basement.

242 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:14pm

re: #216 albusteve

I have some gold in Jamaica...not enough it seems now

Jamaican Gold! I used to smoke that, back in the day...;~)

We called it Giggle Weed.

243 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:20pm

re: #227 pegcity

i was just listening to some Reagan speeches, what the hell, how did america go from reagan to Boozie the Clown

Too much success for too long. We have half our population that has never witnessed a recession.

Well, they bought one.

244 Edouard  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:26pm

re: #160 avanti

Not surprisingly, I think the interview will help him. Since he started his charm offensive this week, his gallop approval poll numbers are going up. He's getting his ducks in a row for the new budget. The folks that like BHO will like the interview, those that don't, won't. Personally, I think he needs to be careful to not do a media blitz like this every week, or it'll backfire at some point.

Obama, unfortunately for him and for all of us, is demystifying the office of President of the United States with each new TV show he goes on.

The gap between him and, say, Ryan Seacrest is narrowing with each new TV show.

We don't need a mere mortal right now. We need someone who can flex some superior American power and force and who can inspire some confiddence in his capability, some respect, and some awe.

To put it very mildly, I'm not seeing it.

245 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:28pm

re: #226 Bloodnok

I'd take Joe over Obama in a heartbeat.

yes...far more likely to do what he's told...woof woof...as a senior senator I doubt he'd take much shit from Reid

246 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:30pm

re: #175 albusteve

I never underestimate the willfull ignorance of his supporters

Never underestimate the willingness of his supporters to rewrite reality.

247 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:36pm

re: #192 ploome hineni

I miss Benedict Arnold

Before he decided he'd been offended, I expect?

248 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:45pm

Obama giggles.... the World laughs.

249 LesLein  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:40:51pm

[Link: www.usagold.com...]

250 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:41:05pm

Yes- it's THAT bad. Biden actually is more qualified and statesman like! We want JOE!

251 Harry Tuttle  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:41:12pm

There are just so many layers to this, I simply cannot adequately convey my disgust, anger and fear for my children's future.

The 52% are the guilty ones.

This man is a tool.

And we are 4% in to the deal.

252 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:41:14pm

re: #231 Killgore Trout

So what's your take on this. Is he just stupid, or in over his head? I think even a dumb shit would know to shut up for a while.

253 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:41:17pm

re: #238 ploome hineni

the big Zero says:

HOW ABOUT COMPETENCE ASSHOLE?

I know. I heard that too. What a fool. I cringe every time I hear Geithner. He's not even a good actor.

254 Promethea  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:41:28pm

re: #38 HelloDare

Q: What's the difference between Obama and Jimmy Carter.

A: A rabbit.

I believe that he will be soon plagued by rabbits when Michelle's lettuce and carrot garden starts growing. No joke.

255 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:41:38pm

so how long until he declares Martial law?

256 Gearhead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:41:53pm

"Why, no, Steve, I'm not [punch drunk]. It's just that whenever I think of how I pulled the wool over America's eyes to get in the White House, and then inherited this festering outhouse of an economy, well, the irony just gets me every time..."

257 David Simon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:41:59pm

re: #214 The Other Les

I don't hate Obama, I see him as a problem to be solved.

Upding!

258 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:42:00pm

Never too early to start printing those 1-20-13 bumperstickers.

259 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:42:04pm

re: #254 Promethea

I believe that he will be soon plagued by rabbits when Michelle's lettuce and carrot garden starts growing. No joke.

The Proverbial and Dreaded Aragula-Eating Hares!

260 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:42:04pm

re: #231 Killgore Trout

NO. Here's the problem with the right's Cloward Piven conspiracy theory: If Obama really wanted to destroy the economy the easiest way to do it would be to let the banking system fail. The economy would implode almost immediately. The only people "seriously" talking about not bailing out the banks are the Tea Party folks on the right.

it has to be a slow strangulation while nobody notices him putting them blame elsewhere....you are naive amigo

261 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:42:12pm

re: #244 Edouard

The gap between him and, say, Ryan Seacrest is narrowing with each new TV show.

What's scaring me at the moment is how spot on this analogy is.

262 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:42:13pm

re: #203 missykrissy

What makes you think he's only PUNCH drunk?

Never thought I would say this, but we could use J. Edgar Hoover right about now.

263 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:42:20pm

Soros is a short.

Obama is his boy toy.

Does that clear things up?

264 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:42:21pm

Hey, if it was Bubba, he'd be biting his lip and wiping away a tear.

Obama laughs.

Heck, if I was him, I'd be laughing too.

265 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:42:35pm

re: #192 ploome hineni

I miss Benedict Arnold

If it weren't for his wife...

266 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:42:40pm
267 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:42:41pm
268 ladycatnip  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:42:53pm

The sociopathic, megalomaniac, malignant narcissist is what we're looking at with our prez; it's gonna be a very scary four years, and if the opposition party doesn't grow some giant cashews, we're in a heap of trouble.

Socialists and Marxists thrive on power, and the best way to ensure your power is to weaken your opponent. Once America's economy is sufficiently weakened or bankrupt, whoever is sitting in the WH will be more powerful by nationalizing everything. Recipe for a simple government takeover - no shots fired either.

/sheesh, am I sounding paranoid? I'm scaring me.

269 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:42:57pm

this is why you shouldn't elect a leader based on American Idol criteria

270 LGoPs  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:43:03pm

re: #146 albusteve

buck up...

No worries about that. I will never give up. My father fought the Soviets and struggled to bring my mother and me to this great country. He was a much younger man than I am now but his example gives me strength.
When I was his age my soldiers and I faced the Soviets across the East German and Czech borders. Back then, under Reagan, we could look the enemy in the eye and we didn't have to look over our own shoulders to see if our leaders were behind us. Things have changed, fundamentally. And that's what Obama said he was going to give us.............
This is a time for stout hearts.

271 Neutral President  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:43:07pm

re: #215 karmic_inquisitor

I heard that polls are showing "liberal" republicans and independents turning on Obama en masse which could be an opportunity to take back Congress if the GOP doesn't step on it's own crank like usual. I hope this is true, but this was coming from the Fox Moby Network and my bullshit detector has been going off as loud watching that as it does watching MSNBS.

272 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:43:14pm

Surrender Dorothy Resign 0bama!

273 Osama Bin Asshat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:43:15pm

Just think....O is punch drunk and the media is ON his side. Just makes ya think how tough Bush actually was and the forces that were working against him.

274 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:43:19pm

re: #259 Salamantis

The Proverbial and Dreaded Aragula-Eating Hares!

At least Jimmy Carter will stop dropping by.

275 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:44:00pm

At the rate Obama is making TV appearances, look for him to be on the revised edition of What's My Line? And the panelists will not be blindfolded.

276 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:44:04pm

re: #228 The Other Les

We need a Coup of the Adults.

I don't entirely agree, mostly because of the use of the word "coup."

But we definitely need to find some adults.

277 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:44:07pm

re: #216 albusteve

I have some gold in Jamaica...not enough it seems now

Maybe 0 had some Jamaican gold, if you know what I mean.

278 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:44:12pm

re: #223 Promethea

It's always "fun" to read about the foibles of the various Roman emperors over the years.

When Tiberius said "bite me", he meant it.

279 Roses  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:44:16pm

He reverts to the "we" when he is in trouble. "We" have alot on "our" plate.

Yeah, and "we" obviously have no plan to deal with it.

280 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:44:18pm

re: #271 ArchangelMichael

I heard that polls are showing "liberal" republicans and independents turning on Obama en masse which could be an opportunity to take back Congress if the GOP doesn't step on it's own crank like usual. I hope this is true, but this was coming from the Fox Moby Network and my bullshit detector has been going off as loud watching that as it does watching MSNBS.

Giant "if".

281 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:44:21pm

Twitter Realtime results for punch drunk

282 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:44:22pm

re: #241 gregg

The first time the White House burned down was 1814 when the British set it afire. The second time will be sometime in the next four years when Obama's meth lab blows up in the basement.

That will be the fifth White House fire.

283 Osama Bin Asshat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:44:51pm

re: #196 Honorary Yooper

Or Celebrity rehab....LOL!

284 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:44:55pm

re: #272 Sharmuta

Surrender Dorothy Resign 0bama!

Your #40 is already the #1 comment in the Top Ten Comments.

285 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:45:08pm

re: #279 Roses

He reverts to the "we" when he is in trouble. "We" have alot on "our" plate.

Yeah, and "we" obviously have no plan to deal with it.

The royal plural.

286 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:45:14pm

Well what do you know? Unicorns really are the answer to our energy problems.

287 Gella  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:45:18pm

ya thats a really funny subject matter, yaaaaa

288 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:45:20pm

re: #277 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe 0 had some Jamaican gold, if you know what I mean.

"whaaaat?....hehehehe!"....probably

289 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:45:34pm

Wonder if 60 Minutes edited any troubling stuff out. You know, like if he started running around the room yelling, "I won, I won."

290 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:45:48pm

I am gonna have a drink, I need it.
BRB.

291 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:45:51pm

re: #282 CapeCoddah

i can see him going into Airforce 1's washroom and disconnecting the smoke detector and lighting up a J

292 Harry Tuttle  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:46:00pm

Whatchyou guys think the market will do tomorrow because of this?

293 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:46:02pm

I have to admit, I'm really not understanding the point of these "tea parties." Are they supposed to accomplish something? If so, I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?

294 screaming_eagle  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:46:02pm

re: #258 JammieWearingFool

Never too early to start printing those 1-20-13 bumperstickers.

The dawn of a new beginning

295 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:46:06pm

My company laid off over half our management team. I'm sure those folks will be highly impressed by 0bama laughing at their economic plight.

296 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:46:27pm

re: #285 karmic_inquisitor

The royal plural.

Yes, but I've criticized him since the primaries for NOT using the "royal we".

Call this lesson one in his on the job training.

297 lawhawk  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:46:32pm

Let's see. Reagan faced a crisis of epic proportions entering his term of office and rose to the occasion; he was dealing with the mess that Carter left. He did so with grace, dignity, and addressing the problem directly and forthrightly.

President GW Bush faced a crisis of epic proportions just months into his Presidency. He handled it with grace, dignity, and with resolve to never let such a heinous attack on our nation occur again. He stood shoulder to shoulder with the men and women of the NYPD and FDNY as they searched for possible survivors on the pile at the former WTC. He cried with them and found his strength and his voice.

Obama laughs. He laughs because he thinks that it's what he has to do to get through the day.

I can laugh at Obama to help me get through the day because at least I know what my job description is and what questions are or aren't at my pay scale.

Obama's laughing because it's an inadvertent admission that he's so far over his head that he's going to sink into a morass that the nation will take years to recover from. His economic policies are a mess - even the left realizes the mess that they're about to encounter. No economist worth their salt would proffer such a plan, and yet this is what Obama's best and brightest can come up with?

Obama's foreign policy isn't much better (and that's usually the refuge of an embattled President). He can't do anything with the Palestinian-Israeli conflict because the Gazans seek Israel's destruction and have thrown off any shred of diplomacy surrounding their intentions.

Iran wants the bomb (and will get one sooner or later).

North Korea has one (possibly several more, and the means to fire them at US interests in the region and possibly beyond).

Pakistan is coming apart at the seams and al Qaeda is reconstituting itself.

Iraq - the one place that Obama claimed to have all the answers and thought that we would have to cut and run so fast that the Iraqis would likely find themselves in the Killing Fields v. 2.0, has turned out to be the one place that Obama can't completely frak up. It's succeeded beyond the left's feeble imagination - and is working towards a stable consensual government despite Iranian meddling and a very rough start/birthing process. The left will focus on the lives lost and the money spent, claiming it wasn't worth it. They couldn't be more hopelessly wrong because freeing 25 million from the yoke of tyranny is NEVER wrong. We gave them a shot at liberty and freedom, and they're starting to embrace it.

They will complain that the money spent on Iraq could have been spent elsewhere, ignoring that the trillion dollars Obama has just spent wont even make a dent on the recession.

It's a mess, and all Obama can do is laugh.

God help him. He's going to need all the help he can get.

298 Gella  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:46:37pm

re: #291 pegcity

i can see him going into Airforce 1's washroom and disconnecting the smoke detector and lighting up a J

i am sure its already disconnected for him

299 Gearhead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:46:49pm

Or,

"No, Steve, I'm not [punch drunk]. It's just that after those Senate hearings, Tim Geithner makes these little whimpering sounds. Its a crack-up, I tell ya'."

300 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:46:53pm
Are you punch drunk headed for a nervous breakdown?

/my question

301 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:47:00pm

re: #272 Sharmuta

Surrender Dorothy Resign 0bama!

can you imagine the outrage he'd have if the House formally offered him a letter?...grandstanding? yes but why not at some point down the road?

302 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:47:06pm

re: #293 Charles

I have to admit, I'm really not understanding the point of these "tea parties." Are they supposed to accomplish something? If so, I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?


I must be missing it as well, its no more than a protest as far as I can see.

303 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:47:15pm

re: #289 HelloDare

u mean like when homer is told he can't be the head of the union anymore and starts running around in circles on the rug

304 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:47:17pm

re: #173 Honorary Yooper

Are you really that clueless? He sounds like a complete idiot in the interview.

Well it's possible I'm clueless or you are, but more likely we just have different opinions. Again, my prediction is the interview will help him with everyone but the conservative right.

BTW, here's a transcript if anyone wants it.

60 minutes

305 odorlesspaintthinner  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:47:17pm

Why is he doing all these tv shows? He's a popularity junkie.

306 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:47:50pm

re: #293 Charles

a sense of cohesion in a world that is coming apart at the seams?

307 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:47:59pm

re: #252 kansas

So what's your take on this. Is he just stupid, or in over his head? I think even a dumb shit would know to shut up for a while.


Depends on what you mean by "this". His Laughing? See #75
The economy? It has certainly been botched. The Fed's early decision the let Lehman Brothers fail was probably the worst mistake of this whole thing so far. IIRC, that was done under Bush.
Obama's huge budget? He still thinks he can pull off this whole "change" thing. We all knew he was going to try but I'd hoped that the bad economy would put his plans on hold. It doesn't look like that's going to happen.

The vast majority of what we are seeing is the inevtiable fallout from bad decisions and policies from about 20 years of Democrats and Republicans? Wanna fix this mess by throwing out the Dems? Republicans won't do any better. They're all full of shit and they know we can't do a damn thing about it.

308 NY Nana  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:48:15pm

I knew Hussein reminded me of someone.

309 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:48:32pm
310 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:48:34pm

re: #291 pegcity

i can see him going into Airforce 1's washroom and disconnecting the smoke detector and lighting up a J

I can see that.

311 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:48:56pm

re: #297 lawhawk

God help him. He's going to need all the help he can get.

Tell God to tell him to stop sucking up to Iran, and trying to tell us that tripling the deficit will reduce it in 10 years.

312 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:48:57pm

re: #293 Charles

I have to admit, I'm really not understanding the point of these "tea parties." Are they supposed to accomplish something? If so, I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?

I think some on the right seem to think the leftists were successful with all their protests, so now it's our turn...? I support this only insofar as I want people on the right to get more involved, but it would be time better spent at gop party meetings locally where we can form real agendas and solutions for people to run for office.

313 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:49:35pm

Obama is like a frat boy who never grew up.

Fun to hang around with for a while, but then you quickly realize that there really isn't any more to him.

314 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:49:50pm

re: #260 albusteve

re: #255 pegcity

It's starting to look like Dkos around here.

315 sofa  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:49:52pm

Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals .. states:"The first step in community organization is community disorganization. “The disruption of the present organization is the first step toward community organization. Present arrangements must be disorganized if they are to be displace by new patterns.... "
h/t findalis

316 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:49:52pm

re: #293 Charles

That's 'cuz you've been poisoned by RINO propaganda.
///

317 Gearhead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:50:02pm

re: #293 Charles

I have to admit, I'm really not understanding the point of these "tea parties." Are they supposed to accomplish something? If so, I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?

Taxation without representation accomplishing anything constructive.

318 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:50:07pm
319 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:50:14pm

re: #293 Charles

Don't get me started.

320 NelsFree  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:50:15pm

re: #104 WindHorse

How do we (collectively) call for new elections? (If ever we needed to do this, now is the time.....)

I'm sorry, but... even Obama's TeleprompTer is calling for new electrons.
/Sorry, really sorry...

321 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:50:24pm

re: #309 Iron Fist

Should Biden assume the Oval Office for any reason, a new VP would be nominated for Congressional approval. Speaker Smirky would keep her seat in Congress.

322 Neutral President  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:50:41pm

re: #293 Charles

Not saying I disagree with the motivation behind them but I think I know the reason they take the form they do. It's an easy non-committed, feel good/do nothing way for conservatives who have jobs and families, and hence cannot waste a lot of time marching, holding up signs, and chanting mindless slogans, to protest.

323 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:50:42pm

re: #307 Killgore Trout

Depends on what you mean by "this". His Laughing? See #75
The economy? It has certainly been botched. The Fed's early decision the let Lehman Brothers fail was probably the worst mistake of this whole thing so far. IIRC, that was done under Bush.
Obama's huge budget? He still thinks he can pull off this whole "change" thing. We all knew he was going to try but I'd hoped that the bad economy would put his plans on hold. It doesn't look like that's going to happen.

The vast majority of what we are seeing is the inevtiable fallout from bad decisions and policies from about 20 years of Democrats and Republicans? Wanna fix this mess by throwing out the Dems? Republicans won't do any better. They're all full of shit and they know we can't do a damn thing about it.

you are too fatalistic...something will happen and it only makes sense to hedge your bet as best you can...we can vote at the very least

324 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:50:47pm

re: #321 Sharmuta

Bawney Fwank VP

325 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:50:50pm

re: #293 Charles

I have to admit, I'm really not understanding the point of these "tea parties." Are they supposed to accomplish something? If so, I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?

They're a way of notifying our elected representatives that we feel misused.

I don't know if they're going to do any good or not. But I am feeling just a bit fed-up. I'm not represented by any of my congresscritters, at any level.

326 lawhawk  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:51:03pm

re: #293 Charles

I have to admit, I'm really not understanding the point of these "tea parties." Are they supposed to accomplish something? If so, I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?

I think it's gone viral and showing the anger at the local level over the taxing and profligate spending by the Democrats. The problem I see is that the GOP still isn't quite grasping the fiscal responsibility mantle. Perhaps some of the local tea parties will result in fresh blood entering the GOP.

327 coldpizza  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:51:04pm

re: #191 Truck Monkey

Take your money out of the market and buy gold. We are now in the process of monetizing the debt. Hyper-inflation will not be far behind, oh, that and the crashing of the American Dollar.

Cant tell I make back 10k tomorrow... right now dow futures are up for the morning... I need a 100 point rally and Im out..

328 screaming_eagle  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:51:10pm

re: #304 avanti

Well it's possible I'm clueless or you are, but more likely we just have different opinions. Again, my prediction is the interview will help him with everyone but the conservative right.

BTW, here's a transcript if anyone wants it.

60 minutes


Real people don't take lightly to making fun of the current economy.
This will hurt him. His comments saying the stock market is a tracking poll hurt him. It's real money in peoples 401k.

329 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:51:22pm

I can hear Obama in the back of his mind, the John Lennon song playing over and over and over....

"Nobody told me it would be like this..."

330 ladycatnip  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:51:34pm

#40 Sharmuta

This man needs to resign.

Upding!

331 FrogMarch  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:51:40pm

Obama -wake up and stop behaving like a socialist. now.

I think this is nervous laughter. He knows his crazy plans to raise taxes (on those evil rich!) and on everyone else, cap and trade, and usher in socialized medical care are going to kill off what's left of our faltering, rotting economy.
hahaha oh so very funny. he learned it in church.

332 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:51:51pm

re: #314 Killgore Trout

re: #255 pegcity

It's starting to look like Dkos around here.

You need to spend more time at dKos to compare. That's just a little off-base, Killgore.

333 Truck Monkey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:51:57pm

re: #277 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe 0 had some Jamaican gold, if you know what I mean.

Maui Wowie.

334 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:52:03pm

re: #314 Killgore Trout

re: #255 pegcity

It's starting to look like Dkos around here.

is that an insult because I support these pop tea parties...if so it's not working

335 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:52:42pm

re: #200 Aviator

Asking Avanti if he is clueless is like asking if an old Studebaker leaks oil.

If your old Studebaker does not leak oil, the pan is probably empty.

336 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:52:54pm

re: #327 coldpizza

Cant tell I make back 10k tomorrow... right now dow futures are up for the morning... I need a 100 point rally and Im out..

Hyperinflation might take the Dow to 10,000 or 100,000 in a year or three. Might be a good place to keep some money in the next few years.

337 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:52:54pm

re: #324 pegcity

Bawney Fwank VP

At least we know his back-door policies.
/

338 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:53:18pm

to me, his laughing reflects his insecurity. He recognizes (though he'll never admit it) that he is in way over his head...

339 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:53:34pm

re: #334 albusteve

No, that's an insult about you're belief that Obama is secretly trying to destroy the country without anyone noticing. I you needed a sarc tag you should have used one. It's hard to tell sometimes.

340 SlartyBartfast  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:53:36pm

re: #295 Sharmuta

My company laid off over half our management team. I'm sure those folks will be highly impressed by 0bama laughing at their economic plight.

Yeah, I just saw some of my fellow EEs escorted out the door in the past week...along with some of the Accounting staff, some low-level managers, one or more Mechanical Engineers, some CAD people.

A real comedy cavalcade it was...

/

341 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:54:13pm

re: #293 Charles

I have to admit, I'm really not understanding the point of these "tea parties." Are they supposed to accomplish something? If so, I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?

If the folks doing the tea parties really wanted to get the attention of the politicians they would stop withholding on their income taxes.

The one thing a politician will not tolerate is an interruption of the revenue stream.

342 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:54:19pm

YO -

President Obama -

You are NOW - THE MAN - Deal With It. This 'ain't NO PARTY, This 'ain't NO DISCO, This 'ain't NO FOOLING AROUND. You're HARRY TRUMAN, You Are the POTUS, That's What I Hear on the Ground....."

-S-

343 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:54:26pm

Power is his drug.

344 CLLRusso  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:54:30pm

re: #293 Charles
Neither do I and I've been to one.

345 callahan23  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:54:40pm

re: #279 Roses

He reverts to the "we" when he is in trouble. "We" have alot on "our" plate.

Yeah, and "we" obviously have no plan to deal with it.

He is using this 'fucking' pluralis majestatis. The United States of America was planned as a Republic for the purpose to keep the majesty away from the people.

346 SlartyBartfast  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:54:43pm

re: #297 lawhawk

Great summary.

May God help us all!

347 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:54:43pm

re: #304 avanti

Again, my prediction is the interview will help him with everyone but the conservative right.

Are you his dealer?

348 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:54:44pm

re: #337 Honorary Yooper

At least we know his back-door policies.
/

Up-ding for the penetrating insight!

/ewwww!

349 Centauri  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:55:26pm

re: #293 Charles

I have to admit, I'm really not understanding the point of these "tea parties." Are they supposed to accomplish something? If so, I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?

If it to represent to old Boston Tea party, then it is lacking in several ways. for one, there is no monetary damage to the current administration, they are peaceful protests only, and not worthy of the tag..

lets not pay our taxes in protest. THATS a Boston tea party!

350 UberInfidel67  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:55:27pm

Go here: [Link: www.facebook.com...]

I think it will work right. Take it and add it to your blogs or webpages. And Charles, could you maybe put it on this site...it might make us all feel a little better.

(Someone let me know if the link worked)

351 ColdPizza  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:56:07pm

Nikkei up 143 points! Yes! Please God let Potash Corp, RIMM and AGU soar tomorrow each $1.50 a share on the Dow. I promise to sell and not play the markets again until I find myself in a wonderful "short" position.

352 formercorpsman  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:56:12pm

Like lawhawk posted, we are up against some huge odds. They are real, and carry massive consequences.

He should not be laughing at all, I don't care what part of the interview he is in.

He should not be going for the first sitting President to be on late night.

He needs to be doing his job. I think I know what that is, could someone please let him know?

353 Promethea  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:56:15pm

re: #211 gregg

If Harper has any sense, he'll drop corporate tax rates and see how many U.S. corporations he can lure north.

That would be a very smart move. I hope he does it, just as a lesson to the Obama voters as to what happens when taxes go up.

354 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:56:36pm

avanti..... you are but a smudge mark on this blog....

355 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:56:37pm

re: #305 odorlesspaintthinner

Why is he doing all these tv shows? He's a popularity junkie.

So were Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, and Castro...

356 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:56:39pm

re: #339 Killgore Trout

No, that's an insult about you're belief that Obama is secretly trying to destroy the country without anyone noticing. I you needed a sarc tag you should have used one. It's hard to tell sometimes.

he's done nothing to help the economy strengthen...nothing...he's a friggin commie...come to your own conclusions

357 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:56:55pm

I think this interview will help Obama with everyone who didn't see it. In other words, all his followers.

358 FrogMarch  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:57:00pm

re: #289 HelloDare

best post so far.

359 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:57:05pm

re: #353 Promethea

they actually have lowered them quite a bit, and another round of cuts is coming


i think they dropped them from 23% to 19 and they want to lower them to 15%

360 obscured by clouds  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:57:19pm

re: #251 Harry Tuttle


This man is a tool.

And we are 4% in to the deal.

Ahhhh. 96% to go. It's going to be a wild ride. *rubs forehead*.

361 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:57:36pm

re: #349 Centauri
Nice nic. and avatar.
And welcome.

362 ladycatnip  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:57:59pm

My MIL sent me this:

LETTER FROM THE BOSS.....

As the CEO of this organization, I have resigned myself to the fact that
Barack Obama is our President and that our taxes and government fees will increase in a BIG way. To compensate for these increases, our prices would have to increase by about 10%. But since we cannot increase our prices right now due to the dismal state of the economy, we will have to lay off six of our employees instead. This has really been bothering me, since I believe we are family here and I didn't know how to choose who would have to go.

So, this is what I did. I walked through our parking lot and found
six 'Obama' bumper stickers on our employees' cars and have decided these folks will be the ones to let go. I can't think of a more fair way to
approach this problem. They voted for change, I gave it to them.

I will see the rest of you at the annual company picnic.

363 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:58:13pm

I could cry thinking of my former co-workers who are now looking for work in this toilet of an economy and 0bama laughs while avanti spins, spins, spins.

You are off your rocker if you think unemployed people will find his laughter "charming", avanti. You really are a condom- you're covering a dick.

364 screaming_eagle  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:58:50pm

re: #361 DEZes

Nice nic. and avatar.
And welcome.

Your home?

365 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:59:08pm

re: #362 ladycatnip

My MIL sent me this:

LETTER FROM THE BOSS.....

As the CEO of this organization, I have resigned myself to the fact that
Barack Obama is our President and that our taxes and government fees will increase in a BIG way. To compensate for these increases, our prices would have to increase by about 10%. But since we cannot increase our prices right now due to the dismal state of the economy, we will have to lay off six of our employees instead. This has really been bothering me, since I believe we are family here and I didn't know how to choose who would have to go.

YES!

-S-

So, this is what I did. I walked through our parking lot and found
six 'Obama' bumper stickers on our employees' cars and have decided these folks will be the ones to let go. I can't think of a more fair way to
approach this problem. They voted for change, I gave it to them.

I will see the rest of you at the annual company picnic.

366 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:59:16pm

re: #363 Sharmuta

You really are a condom- you're covering a dick.

I have got to steal that line from you.

367 gbrtng  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:59:18pm

obama lama ding dong at his finest without the royal teleprompter ... what a stumbling bunbling dufus.

368 SlartyBartfast  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:59:25pm

re: #363 Sharmuta

Heh. He's going to feel used when this four years is up!

369 Rakkasan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:59:28pm

I get that nervous laughter thing going sometimes; usually when I'm clueless and out of my depth, and not at all sure about what's going to happen next, and I'm feeling totally fucked because it's all way beyond me and everything that I believe is being exposed as childish and fraudulent and completely disconnected from any recognizable reality. So, yeah, it's like that sometimes. But then, I'm not the President.

370 planes86  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:59:34pm

I might need to get one of Glenn Beck's 4-year pills... somebody wake me up when this fool is gone...

371 whiterasta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:59:39pm

BHO must have woke up on January 22nd and said to himself: "What the hell just happened?"

A classic case of be careful what you wish for......

372 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:59:40pm

re: #293 Charles

I have to admit, I'm really not understanding the point of these "tea parties." Are they supposed to accomplish something? If so, I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?

Because of the public nature of these event it might inspire some people who would otherwise to conform to accepting Obama's policies because of peer or family pressure to take a stand and say to himself "it's OK to oppose these policies." It could be as simple as someone driving by and seeing such an event and deciding to take a stand.

It can also provide a social and psychological release for the participants. It also allows for a public denomination of idea that might otherwise be ignored by the MSM.

373 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 5:59:56pm

re: #328 screaming_eagle

Real people don't take lightly to making fun of the current economy.
This will hurt him. His comments saying the stock market is a tracking poll hurt him. It's real money in peoples 401k.

Well, we can see in a few days, gallop does a daily approval poll

374 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:00:02pm

re: #366 Honorary Yooper

I have got to steal that line from you.

Avanti- providing cover for dicks since November 2008!

375 Perplexed  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:00:05pm

"Laugha while you still can monkey boy." Buckaroo Banzai

376 rightwinger3  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:00:08pm

re: #363 Sharmuta

I could cry thinking of my former co-workers who are now looking for work in this toilet of an economy and 0bama laughs while avanti spins, spins, spins.

You are off your rocker if you think unemployed people will find his laughter "charming", avanti. You really are a condom- you're covering a dick.

It's time for avanti's new nickname: itnava.
I miss the Nodrog.

377 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:00:20pm

re: #373 avanti

You are on crack.

378 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:00:39pm

re: #347 Sharmuta

Are you his dealer?

Dealer ?

379 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:00:43pm

re: #364 screaming_eagle

Your home?

LOL.

380 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:00:59pm
381 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:01:02pm

re: #374 Sharmuta

Avanti- providing cover for dicks since November 2008!

Heh.

382 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:01:10pm

re: #376 rightwinger3

Michelle Malkin has Lgm who does LGF have now?

383 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:01:10pm

I wonder if Hugo Chavez received an early screening of 60 Minutes?

384 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:01:18pm

re: #373 avanti

once.... no probs.... twice..... HEY, IT IS GALLUP. (horses gallop.....)

385 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:01:21pm

re: #373 avanti

Well, we can see in a few days, gallop does a daily approval poll

the poll is worthless and you know it....say something really funny please

386 UberInfidel67  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:01:22pm

re: #370 planes86
Click the link at #350 and set your alarm

387 Maximu§  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:01:28pm

PRESIDENT OBAMA:
No, no. There's gotta be a little gallows humor to (LAUGHS) get you through the day.

Unless he's a comedian, Obama should stay out of the laughter business....America is in deadly peril right now and we're not laughing, but it would be interesting to hear a licensed psychologist give their professional opinion on this type of behavior.

388 screaming_eagle  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:01:31pm

re: #372 Gus 802

Because of the public nature of these event it might inspire some people who would otherwise to conform to accepting Obama's policies because of peer or family pressure to take a stand and say to himself "it's OK to oppose these policies." It could be as simple as someone driving by and seeing such an event and deciding to take a stand.

It can also provide a social and psychological release for the participants. It also allows for a public denomination of idea that might otherwise be ignored by the MSM.

Wish I could upding that a hundred times.

389 Edouard  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:01:37pm

re: #281 Gus 802

Twitter Realtime results for punch drunk

"Punch Drunk" has legs I think. Obama will be dealing with that one for some time to come.

390 brookly red  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:01:41pm

re: #351 ColdPizza

Nikkei up 143 points! Yes! Please God let Potash Corp, RIMM and AGU soar tomorrow each $1.50 a share on the Dow. I promise to sell and not play the markets again until I find myself in a wonderful "short" position.

not so much a respecter of persons, or so I am told...

391 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:01:57pm

re: #380 Iron Fist

Hillary could leave state.

392 3 wood  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:02:13pm

Good evening.

The futures are up so far, mainly cause Geithner finally showed that he is not comatose. I'm not saying that his "plan" will do a whole lot of good, but at least he finally came out of hiding.

Bear in mind, setting up all these mechanism is to trade the toxic assets don't mean a whole lot until there is a way to value them, and we can't do that until "Mark to Market" is removed or at least altered, and the ability of the short sellers to destroy companies for fun and profit is removed.


I look for a lot of volatility this next week.

393 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:02:13pm

re: #388 screaming_eagle

Wish I could upding that a hundred times.

Thanks! :)

394 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:02:40pm

re: #160 avanti

Not surprisingly, I think the interview will help him. Since he started his charm offensive this week, his gallop approval poll numbers are going up. He's getting his ducks in a row for the new budget. The folks that like BHO will like the interview, those that don't, won't. Personally, I think he needs to be careful to not do a media blitz like this every week, or it'll backfire at some point.

Only a fucking douchebag would think this interview helps the 0.

395 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:02:41pm

re: #387 Maximu§

well i have a sociology degree, and i can tell you the guy has some serious issues grasping the severity of what he has to deal with.

Obama suffers from the curse of Invincibility

396 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:02:45pm

I'm 60 years old. I miss every President I can remember going back to Eisenhower.

397 Digital Display  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:02:47pm

I really think Obama is ready for SNL...

398 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:03:13pm

re: #387 Maximu§

PRESIDENT OBAMA:
No, no. There's gotta be a little gallows humor to (LAUGHS) get you through the day.

Unless he's a comedian, Obama should stay out of the laughter business....America is in deadly peril right now and we're not laughing, but it would be interesting to hear a licensed psychologist give their professional opinion on this type of behavior.

exactly...he's a crackpot and someone in that field is gonna come out and say so

399 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:03:21pm

FRIENDLY FIRE
NEW YORK TIMES HITS OBAMA

(splashed across huffpo)

400 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:03:23pm

re: #394 Alouette

Only a fucking douchebag dick wrapper would think this interview helps the 0.

He's a condom.

401 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:03:23pm

re: #371 whiterasta

BHO must have woke up on January 22nd and said to himself: "What the hell just happened?"

A classic case of be careful what you wish for......

whiterasta -

SEE - "The Candidate" - starring Robert Redford. That is all.

-S-

402 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:03:34pm

insecure narcissists laugh.....

as the rope tightens.

403 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:03:35pm

re: #397 HoosierHoops

I really think Obama is ready for SNL...

He was on there last night...or was that Fred Arnison? Same diff.

404 gregg  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:03:40pm

re: #353 Promethea

That would be a very smart move. I hope he does it, just as a lesson to the Obama voters as to what happens when taxes go up.

Several U.S. energy companies are moving to Switzerland, so Canada may as well give it a shot.

405 planes86  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:03:42pm

Looks like the MSM is gonna cover this after all...

On '60 Minutes,' Obama rebukes Cheney criticism

too bad they "forgot" to mention this little episode....

406 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:03:47pm
407 Teh Flowah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:04:06pm

Ehh, I laugh like that in awkward situations, especially when the people I've picked aren't working out, and the crisis I'm a party to is rapidly deteriorating, and I'm backpedaling furiously on the false fury I stoked on a situation I helped create.

408 LGoPs  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:04:06pm

Mrs LGoPs is making me fold the clothes. Doesn't seem to understand that with the world collapsing around our ears, neatly folded clothes rank low on my list of priorities........sheesh. :)
Keep up the fire. BBIAW.

409 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:04:10pm

It's hard to be proud of your President when he is a man like this.

410 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:04:11pm

re: #377 Sharmuta

You are on crack.

Is this where I'm supposed to hurl back a insulting reply. It's been so long since grade school, I forget the drill.

411 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:04:19pm

Barack P.D. Obama.
Because using his real middle name all the time gets some people angry.

412 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:04:27pm

re: #400 Sharmuta

He's a condom.

As seen on TV the internet.

413 soxfanscott  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:04:33pm

The Trouble is that the REAL Barack tends to leak-out when he's not hard-wired to a TelePrompTer-

Narcissists are often callous- and even ruthless. They tend to lack empathy and/or a conscience. This is evident in Obama's lack of interest in his own half-brother who lives in poverty in Kenya, or his aunt found living in public housing in Boston.

Obama's almost certainly a pathological narcissist... the most dangerous charismatic leaders are, comes from an insecure childhood (like Barack's).

Indicators include control "freakery", grandiose self-importance, feeling "above the law", interpersonally exploitive, inability to handle criticism, lack of empathy, arrogant behavior, surrounds himself with sycophants... sound familiar?

Obama is a mess- and his insecurities, bad childhood, and irresponsible, far-left-wierdo mother are now all OUR problem, too-

414 FrogMarch  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:04:48pm

re: #373 avanti

Well, we can see in a few days, gallop does a daily approval poll

Whatever.

415 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:04:54pm

re: #405 planes86

Looks like the MSM is gonna cover this after all...

On '60 Minutes,' Obama rebukes Cheney criticism

too bad they "forgot" to mention this little episode....

Think of the MSM as the Special Effects Department for the Obama Administration.

416 Timbre  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:05:03pm

I still say a promo clip showed President Obama saying, "The budget is the economy." Maybe it was edited out of the program version.

417 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:05:04pm

re: #409 Kreuzueber Halbmond

hes not your president , remember the way people refereed to Bush, hes the other 52% of the nations president.

418 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:05:12pm

re: #410 avanti

Is this where I'm supposed to hurl back a insulting reply. It's been so long since grade school, I forget the drill.

Oh how last year flew by.

419 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:05:20pm

re: #384 WindHorse

once.... no probs.... twice..... HEY, IT IS GALLUP. (horses gallop.....)

Thanks for that, Gallup, got it.

420 screaming_eagle  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:05:45pm

re: #373 avanti

Well, we can see in a few days, gallop does a daily approval poll

Is that the same poll that said 31% of Democrats believe 9-11 was a inside job?

421 OldLineTexan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:05:48pm

re: #418 DEZes

Oh how last year flew by.

Hey, third grade was a GREAT four years ...

422 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:05:48pm

Maybe Avanti is right. This might help Obama because the MFM will not mention this again. CNN is mentioning that Barry whacked on Cheney...left out the little tidbit about Barry seeming to be an asshat.

423 midwestgak  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:06:08pm

re: #397 HoosierHoops

I really think Obama is ready for SNL...

Hey {Hoosier}
Have you seen SNL lately? SOooo not funny. SOooo not clever. SOooo irrelevant. SOooo I guess you are correct.

424 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:06:09pm

re: #411 HelloDare

Barack P.D. Obama.
Because using his real middle name all the time gets some people angry.

HelloDare -

Use "Milhous" as does Dr. Levin. That is all.

-S-

425 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:06:15pm

A friend of mine just sent me an awesome pic...I am now using it as my avatar.

426 Timbre  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:06:31pm

re: #396 kansas

I'm 60 years old. I miss every President I can remember going back to Eisenhower.

I really enjoyed the Eisenhower Library and Museum in Abilene. My wife and I went back in the 80's when I was still a graduate student.

427 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:06:37pm

re: #373 avanti

Well, we can see in a few days, gallop does a daily approval poll

What is this gallup approval poll? Is it something like the Dow Jones Average?

428 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:06:38pm

re: #410 avanti

Is this where I'm supposed to hurl back a insulting reply. It's been so long since grade school, I forget the drill.

How about we just laugh at you when your personal finances go in the toilet?

429 OldLineTexan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:06:45pm

re: #422 kansas

Maybe Avanti is right. This might help Obama because the MFM will not mention this again. CNN is mentioning that Barry whacked on Cheney...left out the little tidbit about Barry seeming to be an asshat.

Rule #3 of Writing a Strong Story is to not bother to print stuff everyone knows already.

/

430 vagabond trader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:06:46pm

re: #387 Maximu§

Here's a few interesting clues.

[Link: counsellingresource.com...]

431 brookly red  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:06:50pm

re: #404 gregg

Several U.S. energy companies are moving to Switzerland, so Canada may as well give it a shot.

all your companies, are bemoving to us.

432 FrogMarch  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:07:11pm

re: #397 HoosierHoops

I really think Obama is ready for SNL...

totally.

433 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:07:18pm

re: #421 OldLineTexan

Hey, third grade was a GREAT four years ...

Gotta get some paper towels, BRB.

434 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:07:21pm

re: #373 avanti

Well, we can see in a few days, gallop does a daily approval poll

Moron -

The Gallup poll is of adults. Just adults. Not registered voters. Not likely voters.

Results are based on telephone interviews with 1,547 national adults, aged 18 and older

What counts are the people who vote.

Among them, the daily tracking poll says Obama is in big trouble.

[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

435 NelsFree  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:07:29pm

re: #254 Promethea

I believe that he will be soon plagued by rabbits when Michelle's lettuce and carrot garden starts growing. No joke.

IF that happens, bring in the Chickens!

Youtube Video
436 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:07:32pm

Being punch drunk in defense of socialism is no vice. - Barack H. Obama

437 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:07:38pm

As someone who loves reading about the history of the office of POTUS and respects the dignity of the office and the men who have held it (with only a few exceptions) can I just say how depressing it is that a sitting President had to be asked if he was "punchdrunk" on national TV?

I feel like Bush held the dignity of the office together with Elmer's glue and scotch tape for 8 years, but the damage to the office started by Clinton continues.

438 callahan23  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:07:38pm

re: #425 CapeCoddah

A friend of mine just sent me an awesome pic...I am now using it as my avatar.

Together with your motto: "Attempting communication with a liberal"
Priceless

439 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:07:52pm

re: #429 OldLineTexan

Rule #3 of Writing a Strong Story is to not bother to print stuff everyone knows already.

/

Thanks for the tip. Trouble is everything I know everyone already knows. And I gotta have something to do.

440 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:08:02pm

re: #419 avanti

by the way, just because a bunch of idiots who blather into a microphone say it is so.... DOESN'T MAKE IT SO......

but, then..... we will watch as you come around and (finally) acknowledge this fact.............

441 livefreeor die  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:08:48pm

re: #425 CapeCoddah

A friend of mine just sent me an awesome pic...I am now using it as my avatar.

It really sums up the current political situation well!

442 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:08:50pm

re: #434 karmic_inquisitor

He's about doubled his "strongly disapprove" numbers in what, a few months?

Impressive.

443 Digital Display  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:08:51pm

re: #423 midwestgak

Hey {Hoosier}
Have you seen SNL lately? SOooo not funny. SOooo not clever. SOooo irrelevant. SOooo I guess you are correct.

{Gak}
It's my right as an American to hear my President do the Monologue on SNL.
It would be brilliant..He could just play himself.

444 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:08:56pm

re: #424 Dr. Shalit

HelloDare -

Use "Milhous" as does Dr. Levin. That is all.

-S-

I find Millstone more appropriate.

445 OldLineTexan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:09:10pm

re: #437 Bloodnok

As someone who loves reading about the history of the office of POTUS and respects the dignity of the office and the men who have held it (with only a few exceptions) can I just say how depressing it is that a sitting President had to be asked if he was "punchdrunk" on national TV?

I feel like Bush held the dignity of the office together with Elmer's glue and scotch tape for 8 years, but the damage to the office started by Clinton Nixon continues.

Let's be fair.

Nixon put the blood in the water and helped the MSM to the PEAK of their power. They have been looking to score again since then.

446 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:09:24pm

Can we get a redo?

447 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:09:35pm

re: #431 brookly red

all your companies, are bemoving to us.

brooklyred -

I might rather moe to a nation that respects a theory called "CAPITALISM" - Perhaps IRELAND - if not - Perhaps CHINA or INDIA. That is all.

-S-

448 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:09:50pm
449 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:09:53pm

re: #440 WindHorse

by the way, just because a bunch of idiots who blather into a microphone say it is so.... DOESN'T MAKE IT SO......

but, then..... we will watch as you come around and (finally) acknowledge this fact.............

Well we sure know one idiot who blathers into a microphone now don't we?

450 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:10:24pm

re: #444 HelloDare

I find Millstone more appropriate.

HelloDare -

GOOD CALL!

-S-

451 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:10:38pm

I can't really speak to what the intended purpose of the Tea Party protests but I think I see where it's headed. I see a lot of "Fair Tax" signs, Glenn Beck slogans, some Ron Paul stuff, and even a little bit of racism and 9-11 Troofers popping up at Tea Party sites. I think it's going to serve as a conduit for the Ron Paul wing of the Republican party to become mainstream. Glenn Beck is certainly assisting the effort (intentionally or not). I think this may be were the Tea party ting is headed. How that translates into Republican candidates is too early to tell.

452 rockman  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:10:41pm

"...and a little blow when we could afford it."
Now he can afford it. We can't.

453 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:10:45pm
454 Maximu§  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:10:58pm

re: #430 vagabond trader

Here's a few interesting clues.

[Link: counsellingresource.com...]

This answer fits Obama's laughter pattern:

Inappropriate laughter that follows a phrase or sentence can be a sign of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) or even Tourette’s Disorder — as a type of vocal tic.

455 Lee Coller  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:11:05pm

There's a lot of scary stuff in that transcript. did you all see this:

STEVE KROFT:What is the most frustrating part of the job?

BARACK OBAMA:

(SIGH) The-- the fact that-- you are often confronted with bad choices that flow from less than optimal decisions made a year ago, two years ago, five years ago, when you weren't here. A lot of times, when things land at my desk-- it's a choice between bad and worse. And as somebody pointed out to me-- the only things that land on my desk are tough decisions. Because, if they were easy decisions, somebody down the food chain's already made them."

Translation, its all Bush's fault.

456 CLLRusso  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:11:08pm

You know this is all John McCain's fault. Had he run a better campaign or been a better candidate.................. But NO. He and Huckabee had a keep Mitt from getting the nomination deal going, and I'm still mad as hell at both of them. The one man that could have done something positive, experienced in business and economics is Mitt Romney, but gee, he's a Mormon you know. And Pastor Hickabee didn't even know if they are Christians. BASTARD.

457 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:11:14pm

re: #441 livefreeor die

It really sums up the current political situation well!

Funny, I was thinking just that myself!

458 3 wood  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:11:47pm

I have now become convinced that Obama really does not understand finance or economics. Get a load of this one:
Obama Says ‘Systemic Risk’ Still Exists in Financial Industry

March 22 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama said that systemic risk still exists in the financial industry while insisting the “dollar is still strong” because U.S. Treasury bills are a safe investment.

“Systemic risks are still out there,” Obama said in a “60 Minutes,” interview for the CBS program “60 Minutes” scheduled for broadcast tonight.

Obama says this ike "systemic risk" is something that is new....

Um..."systemic risk" always exists, it is the risk inherent to all similar securities, there is no way to avoid it. You diversify your portfolio to eliminate "non-systemic risk" so that the only risk left is "systemic".

Obama just told everybody who understands how the markets work that he does not understand even basic investment and portfolio management theory.

We are so screwed...

459 David Simon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:11:48pm

re: #341 The Other Les

If the folks doing the tea parties really wanted to get the attention of the politicians they would stop withholding on their income taxes.

The one thing a politician will not tolerate is an interruption of the revenue stream.

lol. Sort of like the ISM folks bravely "resisting" democratic, tolerant Israel instead of authoritarian China, plutocratic Saudi Arabia, anarchic Somalia...or any one of a multitude of nations where human rights abuses are de rigeur.

The only place that "activists" will "activate" themselves is place that will allow them to act out their childish bullshit fantasies.

460 OldLineTexan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:11:53pm

re: #453 ploome hineni

think about how shocked Kroft must have been by Nobamas behavior, to ask the POTUS is he was not in control

Kroft to Obama: Are you punch-drunk?

I think it was a ASS-KISS FAIL.

Like, "Awww, your life is so hard"

461 Ringo the Gringo  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:11:53pm

At the moronic convergence which I attended in Hollywood yesterday, the moonbats and Leftists were noticeably giddy with excitement over the idea of a financial collapse. There was a feeling that the long awaited Revolution was finally at hand.

They seemed to see the current economic situation as proof that Capitalism was doomed to failure. The worse things get the more their world view is validated. A complete economic meltdown is what they want; it's necessary in order for the Revolution to take place and the new world to arise from the ashes.

462 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:12:10pm
463 yesandno  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:12:10pm

He actually said nothing.

I am not surprised.

464 Truck Monkey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:12:15pm

re: #371 whiterasta

BHO must have woke up on January 22nd and said to himself: "What the hell just happened?"

A classic case of be careful what you wish for......

He is like the dog who actually catches the car that he has been barking at for years. Now that he has it, he does not know what to do.

465 OldLineTexan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:12:32pm

re: #453 ploome hineni

BTW, I made your date bars. Very very tasty. Do yours turn out rather crumbly?

466 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:12:45pm

re: #449 kansas

WE don't.... please give me a clue.....

467 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:12:47pm

re: #461 Ringo the Gringo

yeah that will be real fun, oh wait they are a bunch of pussies who couldn't figure out which end of a gun the bullet comes out of

468 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:12:53pm

re: #448 Iron Fist

She could. I'm not sure what that buys America. And Obama's problems here are so far beyond the PUMAs (who, in the end, don't seem to have made any difference anyway) that Hillary doesn't help any. The only good that moving Hillary to VP would accomplish is get her out of State, where she is so far in over her head that it is frightening.

One thing that is becoming abundently clear: all of these so-called "geniuses" from the Democrat Party aren't just not bright. They are actively stupid. And they are in way over their heads. All of them are.

Well- I said when he started nominating nothing but Clinton people that is showed a lack of depth on the dem's bench. They really don't have a lot of young talent in the spot light. All I know is that Biden would be an improvement, and that alone is a scary thought.

469 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:13:02pm

re: #455 Lee Coller

There's a lot of scary stuff in that transcript. did you all see this:

Translation, its all Bush's fault.

Lee Coller -

All'y'all GOT THE PROGRAM. Like "DUH."

-S-

470 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:13:15pm

re: #410 avanti

Is this where I'm supposed to hurl back a insulting reply. It's been so long since grade school, I forget the drill.

Spoken with arrogant condescension and a grandiose self image of superiority.
Quite immature.

471 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:13:26pm

re: #458 3 wood

Getting ready to short the banks this week. SKF is looking great at its current levels. Expecting a run to 250. We may have an idiot in office but I'm going to make a bundle.

472 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:13:30pm

re: #466 WindHorse

WE don't.... please give me a clue.....

Obama.

473 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:13:33pm

re: #417 pegcity

hes not your president , remember the way people refereed to Bush, hes the other 52% of the nations president.

We are all in this together. And as predicted, a Marxist-liberal, junior senator does not a good President make.

474 neverquit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:14:03pm

This interview was almost as funny as his message to Iran.

475 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:14:06pm

re: #461 Ringo the Gringo

At the moronic convergence which I attended in Hollywood yesterday, the moonbats and Leftists were noticeably giddy with excitement over the idea of a financial collapse. There was a feeling that the long awaited Revolution was finally at hand.

They seemed to see the current economic situation as proof that Capitalism was doomed to failure. The worse things get the more their world view is validated. A complete economic meltdown is what they want; it's necessary in order for the Revolution to take place and the new world to arise from the ashes.

cool...I have a foraging party headed their way...Vikings

476 KitchenQueen  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:14:09pm

re: #190 pink freud

Rush will be on fire tomorrow.

I think it's supposed to be Mark Steyn filling in tomorrow.

477 vagabond trader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:14:15pm

re: #454 Maximu§

I've noticed that his affect is off kilter too. All. the. time.

478 Irish Rose  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:14:18pm

Good FREAKING grief.

Anyone have the video for this?

479 gregg  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:14:22pm

re: #431 brookly red

all your companies, are bemoving to us.

I'm trying to picture what the Green Giant will look like wearing lederhosen, or the Pillsbury dough boy in a kimono.

480 livefreeor die  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:14:22pm

re: #455 Lee Coller

There's a lot of scary stuff in that transcript. did you all see this:
STEVE KROFT:What is the most frustrating part of the job?

BARACK OBAMA:

(SIGH) The-- the fact that-- you are often confronted with bad choices that flow from less than optimal decisions made a year ago, two years ago, five years ago, when you weren't here. A lot of times, when things land at my desk-- it's a choice between bad and worse. And as somebody pointed out to me-- the only things that land on my desk are tough decisions. Because, if they were easy decisions, somebody down the food chain's already made them."

Translation, its all Bush's fault.

Waaaahhhh. This job is difficult. The mean Republicans made it difficult. Waaaahhhhh.

481 NY Nana  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:14:53pm

re: #329 solomonpanting

/You are making the assumption that The One actually has a brain....his head is so stuffed with self-aggrandizement that it already needs two pillows side by side, at the very least.

482 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:15:00pm

re: #479 gregg

how about a mounties uniform or a lumberjack shirt.

483 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:15:03pm

re: #472 kansas

wow.... I feel (amost) avantiesque...... how could I miss THAT!

484 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:15:04pm

re: #458 3 wood

I have now become convinced that Obama really does not understand finance or economics

I seem to recall that in his tax returns people noticed that despite making and having lots of money he doesn't have any stocks or investments. People thought it was odd at the time but I think this explains his lack of knowledge and seeming indifference to the stock market. It's just not something within his experience.

485 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:15:07pm

re: #471 Jetpilot1101

Jetpilot 1101 -

I hope your moves make you a Retirement Income for the rest of your life.

-S-

486 stevieray  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:15:13pm

re: #339 Killgore Trout

No, that's an insult about you're belief that Obama is secretly trying to destroy the country without anyone noticing. I you needed a sarc tag you should have used one. It's hard to tell sometimes.

Why do you find it so hard to believe that a leftist would like the government to gain more control over businesses? Why do you think it is outside the realm of possibility that the dithering could be by design -- to ensure the financial decay continues -- in order to strengthen the government's hand when the power grab occurs? Why do you think that these things can't be happening? They've happened other places in other times... why not here? Why not now?

487 lawhawk  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:15:21pm

re: #451 Killgore Trout

I think that the Paulbots are definitely dedicated and they're organized. That's going to definitely affect Tea Parties around the country and I too worry about how that would affect the GOP going forward.

488 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:15:22pm

Barack Mulligan Obama

Because the press usually looks the other way when he flubs up.

489 VioletTiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:15:44pm

re: #96 pink freud

He is laughing because his plan is wording so well. This is NO SURPRISE.

You can bet Soros is laughing too.


But who else besides Soros is laughing with him? I will be interested to see if there is any reaction tomorrow morning. Every time he opens his mouth he loses some support.

490 Digital Display  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:15:47pm

re: #468 Sharmuta

Well- I said when he started nominating nothing but Clinton people that is showed a lack of depth on the dem's bench. They really don't have a lot of young talent in the spot light. All I know is that Biden would be an improvement, and that alone is a scary thought.

Half the Chicago Machine has moved to DC. The other half are still looking for housing...

491 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:15:54pm

re: #461 Ringo the Gringo

"The worse things get the more their world view is validated."

Yes. Exactly.

492 brookly red  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:16:04pm

re: #447 Dr. Shalit

493 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:16:09pm

re: #211 gregg

If Harper has any sense, he'll drop corporate tax rates and see how many U.S. corporations he can lure north.

"Take off! To the Great White North! Take off! It's a beauty way to go!"

Beauty eh?

494 Irish Rose  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:16:11pm

re: #387 Maximu§

PRESIDENT OBAMA:
No, no. There's gotta be a little gallows humor to (LAUGHS) get you through the day.

Unless he's a comedian, Obama should stay out of the laughter business....America is in deadly peril right now and we're not laughing, but it would be interesting to hear a licensed psychologist give their professional opinion on this type of behavior.


It sure as hell would.

495 gregg  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:16:22pm

re: #482 pegcity

how about a mounties uniform or a lumberjack shirt.

I can see the Green Giant in a mounties uniform, but not the dough boy.

496 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:16:55pm

re: #422 kansas

Maybe Avanti is right. This might help Obama because the MFM will not mention this again. CNN is mentioning that Barry whacked on Cheney...left out the little tidbit about Barry seeming to be an asshat.

Only person more unpopular then Obama on the right is Cheney on the left. That's one of the reasons the interview will be seen so differently by both sides.

497 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:17:00pm

re: #476 KitchenQueen

I think it's supposed to be Mark Steyn filling in tomorrow.

Even better. (Almost) :-)

498 jayzee  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:17:29pm

Still inhaling Barry?

499 MandyManners  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:17:42pm

*sniff*

ACK! It's still here!

I'm headed to bed. With The Kid gone, I don't have to wait up for him to go to sleep.

Good night, Lizards! Keep the faith. We will survive this fucking, Commie bastard.

500 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:17:43pm

re: #496 avanti

Only person more unpopular then Obama on the right is Cheney on the left. That's one of the reasons the interview will be seen so differently by both sides.

I will take Mr. Cheney all day long.

501 Pullus Iulius  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:17:56pm

re: #461 Ringo the Gringo

Ask one of them "Who do you think has the guns?"

502 Rakkasan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:17:56pm

re: #231 Killgore Trout

NO. Here's the problem with the right's Cloward Piven conspiracy theory: If Obama really wanted to destroy the economy the easiest way to do it would be to let the banking system fail. The economy would implode almost immediately. The only people "seriously" talking about not bailing out the banks are the Tea Party folks on the right.

I think you're right. Personally, I think the idea that there is a strategy to anything these people are doing misses the point. The left has become so incoherent, and so bereft of anything approaching a philosophy (in large part thanks to multi-culturalism) that they find themselves with nothing but a handful of fantasies and no mechanism by which they can understand or control anything. Much like jihadists, I might add. Unfortunately for us, this very cluelessness and inability to accept reality will make them very dangerous when they fail. They will be looking for scapegoats, and they will find them - lots of them.

503 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:17:58pm

re: #496 avanti

Only person more unpopular then Obama on the right is Cheney on the left. That's one of the reasons the interview will be seen so differently by both sides.

Yeah, and we all know this is a popularity contest.

504 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:18:00pm
505 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:18:00pm
506 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:18:01pm

re: #476 KitchenQueen

I think it's supposed to be Mark Steyn filling in tomorrow.

Kitchen Queen -

Steyn should have his OWN syndicated Radio Show. He sounds "Brit" - AND - I bet so did Thomas Paine, The Original. Steyn, if nothing else is a charter member of the "Anti-Idiotarian" Club.

-S-

507 3 wood  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:18:27pm

re: #471 Jetpilot1101

Getting ready to short the banks this week. SKF is looking great at its current levels. Expecting a run to 250. We may have an idiot in office but I'm going to make a bundle.

I think a whole bunch of folks are doing the same thing. We have a President who does not understand the very basics of how the market works, and a Treasury Secretary scared of his own shadow.

I don't think this is going to have a good ending.

508 Digital Display  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:18:40pm

re: #478 Irish Rose

Good FREAKING grief.

Anyone have the video for this?

Good Evening Rose..I watched 60 minutes..He has a goofy laugh..I just breathed a sigh of relief when he didn't compare the economy to the Special Olympics..

509 brookly red  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:18:43pm

re: #447 Dr. Shalit

brooklyred -

I might rather moe to a nation that respects a theory called "CAPITALISM" - Perhaps IRELAND - if not - Perhaps CHINA or INDIA. That is all.

-S-

I don't know what happened to my post, but I said "why would any company stay here? we will be begging for potatoes before this is done".

510 azcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:18:52pm

re: #110 MandyManners

Don't rule out that it could be both. Maybe he though he'd get stoned before the interview thinking he would be less likely to make fun of any goroup of people he feels are beneath him.

511 MandyManners  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:18:57pm

re: #496 avanti

Only person more unpopular then Obama on the right is Cheney on the left. That's one of the reasons the interview will be seen so differently by both sides.

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT, YOU IGNORANT ASSHOLE.

512 livefreeor die  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:18:58pm

Do other people get the impression that Kroft was trying to cover for him the way Stephanapolous (sp?) did with the Muslim-Christian comment?

513 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:19:01pm

re: #458 3 wood

Obama just told everybody who understands how the markets work that he does not understand even basic investment and portfolio management theory.

Next he's going to comment how shocked he is to discover that many US corporations still have "liabilities".

514 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:19:25pm

Evening Honcos.

Obama succeeded in wading across the kiddie pool once and thought it made him an Olympic swimmer.

515 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:19:30pm

the difference between Obama and Cheney is that Obama is profoundly dense..... and that Cheney is profoundly fragile..... I'll go with a good internist and profoundly fragile any day.

516 MandyManners  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:19:31pm

Say "goodnight" Mandy.

Goodnight!

517 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:19:37pm

re: #511 MandyManners

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT, YOU IGNORANT ASSHOLE.

I second that.

518 Centauri  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:19:38pm

re: #361 DEZes

Nice nic. and avatar.
And welcome.

thanks DEZes (I cant see the avatar yet, maybe my cache is sticky) ;)

519 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:19:38pm
520 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:19:40pm

re: #507 3 wood

I think a whole bunch of folks are doing the same thing. We have a President who does not understand the very basics of how the market works, and a Treasury Secretary scared of his own shadow.

I don't think this is going to have a good ending.

Obama might as well change his name to Herbert Hoover because that's the direction he's going.

521 frater eosphoros  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:19:43pm

HA HA HA ...jerk.

522 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:19:43pm

re: #516 MandyManners

Say "goodnight" Mandy.

Goodnight!

Nite!

523 OldLineTexan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:19:55pm

re: #513 Occasional Reader

Next he's going to comment how shocked he is to discover that many US corporations still have "liabilities".

Yes, I am still employed. What of it?

/

524 gregg  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:19:58pm

re: #68 Dianna

A friend of mine describes our current condition as "being raped with a 40-grit condom, no lube, while being told we enjoy it."

Does that come anywhere close, for you?

Yes, that sums it up nicely!

525 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:20:00pm

re: #498 jayzee

Still inhaling Barry?

He did admit that he hasn't stopped smoking. He wasn't specific about what he was smoking. If this rumor gets some legs, it will be traced back to you.

526 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:20:01pm

re: #458 3 wood

I have now become convinced that Obama really does not understand finance or economics. Get a load of this one:
Obama Says ‘Systemic Risk’ Still Exists in Financial Industry

Um..."systemic risk" always exists, it is the risk inherent to all similar securities, there is no way to avoid it. You diversify your portfolio to eliminate "non-systemic risk" so that the only risk left is "systemic".

Tell it to AIG, Lehman, Bear-Stearns, Citibank, ...

527 FrogMarch  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:20:13pm

my little ear to the ground - The business community is not happy with Obama.
People who voted for him believing in his lofty words are now shocked and discouraged. Dismayed over the spending, the promise of putative taxes, the regulations. all of it - anti-private sector business.

The marxists should be happy. Obama is laughing.

From Tom Friedman --

I ran into an Indian businessman friend last week and he said something to me that really struck a chord: “This is the first time I’ve ever visited the United States when I feel like you’re acting like an immature democracy.”

528 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:20:19pm

re: #505 taxfreekiller

25,357.

529 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:20:34pm

re: #507 3 wood

I think a whole bunch of folks are doing the same thing. We have a President who does not understand the very basics of how the market works, and a Treasury Secretary scared of his own shadow.

I don't think this is going to have a good ending.

I'm betting the banks and the markets get crushed this week. The brief bear market rally is over and reality is setting in. I have positioned myself in bank shorts and oil futures (more long term but I think they will oscillate between 40 and 60 so I'm going to trade them in that range).

530 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:20:37pm
531 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:20:40pm

re: #519 Iron Fist

yeah i can see a bunch of moonbats without electricity, they'd be running around with underwear on their heads after 2 days.

532 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:20:42pm

re: #486 stevieray

See #231.
Also see: Why Cloward-Piven is a bullshit conspiracy theory.

and....The Cloward-Piven Candidate?

533 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:20:45pm

re: #509 brookly red

I don't know what happened to my post, but I said "why would any company stay here? we will be begging for potatoes before this is done".

brooklyred -

If the Bottom Line is Potatoes - CHOOSE IRELAND - bet they do not forget the 1840's.

-S-

534 iLikeCandy  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:20:45pm

I'm not down with this dissing of the tea parties. "Easy non-committed, feel good/do nothing" is unfair. Lobbying, voting, editorializing, and peacefully protesting are all the means I know of of letting our leaders know we're mad. The tea parties show our leaders 1) who we are, and 2) how many we are.

The tea party movement may need more focus or a concise action plan, but I bet any action plan would basically be more lobbying, voting, editorializing, and peacefully protesting. With any luck, we'll agree on some specific things we want our leaders to do. Meanwhile, we're stuck with the self-limiting nature of angry, law-abiding citizens.

To the extent that we're not stuck, we proceed to civil disobedience. So? Are we going to do it? What, are we all going to go on a tax strike and defend our properties from the federal marshals with guns? Really?

535 VioletTiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:20:52pm

re: #507 3 wood

I think a whole bunch of folks are doing the same thing. We have a President who does not understand the very basics of how the market works, and a Treasury Secretary scared of his own shadow.

I don't think this is going to have a good ending.


And tomorrow said treasury secretary will tell us his big plan to spend another trillion buying bad loans. It will be a Monday in every sense of the word.

536 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:20:59pm

re: #428 Sharmuta

How about we just laugh at you when your personal finances go in the toilet?

That's a risk I took with my vote, just as we all did. If a year or two from now, the economy has not recovered, then you all can have a good laugh at my expense.

537 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:21:01pm

re: #422 kansas

Maybe Avanti is right. This might help Obama because the MFM will not mention this again. CNN is mentioning that Barry whacked on Cheney...left out the little tidbit about Barry seeming to be an asshat.

Then it's up to us. Hit the comments section of every network blog. Talk it up!

538 BigJohn  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:21:08pm

re: #461 Ringo the Gringo

At the moronic convergence which I attended in Hollywood yesterday, the moonbats and Leftists were noticeably giddy with excitement over the idea of a financial collapse. There was a feeling that the long awaited Revolution was finally at hand.

They seemed to see the current economic situation as proof that Capitalism was doomed to failure. The worse things get the more their world view is validated. A complete economic meltdown is what they want; it's necessary in order for the Revolution to take place and the new world to arise from the ashes.

Yeah, ha ha. They will really like it when they are the first ones slaughtered, because they are weak.

539 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:21:30pm

re: #527 FrogMarch

as Wayne and Garth would put it "No Duh"

540 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:21:35pm

re: #512 livefreeor die

Do other people get the impression that Kroft was trying to cover for him the way Stephanapolous (sp?) did with the Muslim-Christian comment?


I think you are right. Any journo worth his/her salt would have jumped on the "Gallows humour" comment with a further questions. "So you are saying, Mr President, that the economy is dead, if not dead, with its head at the guillotine or in the hangman's noose?"

541 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:21:36pm

re: #536 avanti

That's a risk I took with my vote, just as we all did. If a year or two from now, the economy has not recovered, then you all can have a good laugh at my expense.

Except I'm laughing at you now.

542 pat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:21:36pm

Makes GW look eloquent.

543 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:21:59pm

re: #502 Rakkasan

I think you're right. Personally, I think the idea that there is a strategy to anything these people are doing misses the point. The left has become so incoherent, and so bereft of anything approaching a philosophy (in large part thanks to multi-culturalism) that they find themselves with nothing but a handful of fantasies and no mechanism by which they can understand or control anything. Much like jihadists, I might add. Unfortunately for us, this very cluelessness and inability to accept reality will make them very dangerous when they fail. They will be looking for scapegoats, and they will find them - lots of them.

In short, expect violence from them.

544 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:23:01pm

re: #536 avanti

yeah, but unfortunately.... if this is the case...... in two years, not even Obama will be laughing.......

and we won't be laughing at you ( a skid mark in our history).

545 midwestgak  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:23:01pm

Treasury Secretary Geinter's signature will be on the US currency. I suggest you spend those bills first./

546 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:23:09pm

re: #536 avanti

"If a year or two from now, the economy has not recovered, then you all can have a good laugh at my expense."

Yeah, because that's what I'll be thinking about...YOU.

Geezus.

547 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:23:35pm
548 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:23:43pm

re: #529 Jetpilot1101

I'm betting the banks and the markets get crushed this week. The brief bear market rally is over and reality is setting in. I have positioned myself in bank shorts and oil futures (more long term but I think they will oscillate between 40 and 60 so I'm going to trade them in that range).

You day trade the stuff?

I salute anyone who dips even a toe into these markets.

I keep thinking I should pick up some stuff while it's cheap, but that's what I thought all last year, and did somewhat, and lost on most of it ... so far.

549 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:24:03pm

re: #541 Sharmuta

Girl, if you ever take a sock puppet, may I recommend SpitFire?
;)

550 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:24:03pm

re: #496 avanti

Only person more unpopular then Obama on the right is Cheney on the left. That's one of the reasons the interview will be seen so differently by both sides.

for no good reason...droolers will believe anything...that's why they are droolers...what's he done to break the law or trample the Constitution?....you people are actually hopeless

551 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:24:22pm

re: #500 CapeCoddah

I will take Mr. Cheney all day long.

I suspected as much, and thus the differences in our politics. I blame Cheney for screwing up what could have been a more successful Bush Presidency.

552 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:24:47pm

re: #545 midwestgak

Treasury Secretary Geinter's signature will be on the US currency. I suggest you spend those bills first./

Will it have backwards e's like you'd see on a child's lemonade stand.

553 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:24:52pm

re: #532 Killgore Trout

See #231.
Also see: Why Cloward-Piven is a bullshit conspiracy theory.

and....The Cloward-Piven Candidate?

I haven't been saying it's a conspiracy. What I have been saying is I believe Obama is influenced by the Cloward & Piven. That they were at Columbia at the same time, and to dismiss the the possible influence of Cloward & Piven is also foolish.

554 lawhawk  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:24:57pm

re: #536 avanti

That's a risk I took with my vote, just as we all did. If a year or two from now, the economy has not recovered, then you all can have a good laugh at my expense.

Do you realize how much you sound like a Bernie Madoff client who thought that he could guarantee 10% minimum return on investment year after year, regardless of the business climate?

You voted for the most inexperienced and untested candidate the nation has chosen in generations. That was beyond risky.

555 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:25:08pm

re: #550 albusteve

lol, seriously are you looking to get banned in the next 5 minutes.

556 3 wood  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:25:27pm

Obama and the Democrats are about to learn the lessons of the "paradox of unintended consequences"
Geithner Banks on Private Cash

WASHINGTON -- Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said the only way to resolve the financial crisis is to work with the private sector to remove troubled assets clogging banks' balance sheets, even at a time when Wall Street moneymakers are being vilified by the public and politicians.

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal Sunday, Mr. Geithner said the government cannot do this alone. "Our judgment is that the best way to get through this is if we can work with the markets," he said. "We don't want the government to assume all the risk. We want the private sector to work with us."

So they want the private sector to help out and work with them? Would that be the same private sector who has been getting pounded on daily by Obama, Barney Frank and company every day for being greedy and out of control?

Good luck with that one.

557 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:25:31pm

re: #551 avanti

I suspected as much, and thus the differences in our politics. I blame Cheney for screwing up what could have been a more successful Bush Presidency.

be more specific

558 David Simon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:25:36pm

re: #461 Ringo the Gringo

At the moronic convergence which I attended in Hollywood yesterday, the moonbats and Leftists were noticeably giddy with excitement over the idea of a financial collapse. There was a feeling that the long awaited Revolution was finally at hand.

They seemed to see the current economic situation as proof that Capitalism was doomed to failure. The worse things get the more their world view is validated. A complete economic meltdown is what they want; it's necessary in order for the Revolution to take place and the new world to arise from the ashes.

Apparently they're not aware that we revolted over confiscatory taxation, not 92% employment.

559 vagabond trader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:25:42pm

re: #532 Killgore Trout

Try Saul Alinsky. Clinton and potus suckled at his teat.

560 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:25:44pm

LMAO @ avanti. No, avanti- it's not a complement.

561 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:25:49pm

re: #531 pegcity

yeah i can see a bunch of moonbats without electricity, they'd be running around with underwear on their heads after 2 days.

Let's not start with the Firesign Theatre references, or I will have to challenge you to a diet cola.

562 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:25:54pm
563 stevieray  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:26:01pm

re: #502 Rakkasan

I think you're right. Personally, I think the idea that there is a strategy to anything these people are doing misses the point. The left has become so incoherent, and so bereft of anything approaching a philosophy (in large part thanks to multi-culturalism) that they find themselves with nothing but a handful of fantasies and no mechanism by which they can understand or control anything. Much like jihadists, I might add. Unfortunately for us, this very cluelessness and inability to accept reality will make them very dangerous when they fail. They will be looking for scapegoats, and they will find them - lots of them.

That is a distinct possibility. Personally, I haven't figured out if they are purposefully malignant, naively incompetent, or simply hopelessly divided along a thousand shades of leftism spectrum.

That is why I object to the disparaging of the Cloward-Piven idea -- at present, its as likely as any other explanation of Obama's (in)actions.

564 formercorpsman  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:26:20pm

re: #502 Rakkasan

Why do you suppose some posit the idea of nationalization?

There has been more than just a couple Democrats, in light of this very situation who have suggested just that.

Letting AIG fail also had negative ramifications on some pensions there as well.

There is more to this than folks just being in over their heads.

565 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:26:26pm

OK Obama do not use the word "gallows" when discussing the economy now. Using that word is a failure of leadership.

I believe that the birth certificate issue might be raised again if it becomes apparent even to Democrats that Biden would be better for the (1) Democratic Party and (2) the country, in that order; and used to get Obama to step down. We shall see.

Meanwhile "thanks a lot" for the encouraging words, Mr. president.


****
On another note, the Towercam sunset will be good tonight. Here is a preview.

BBL

566 iLikeCandy  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:26:30pm

re: #455 Lee Coller

There's a lot of scary stuff in that transcript. did you all see this:

Translation, its all Bush's fault.

He's also faulted Dick Cheney for future terrorist attacks. We always knew his supporters would blame Bush for "creating" terrorists, but this is the first I've heard the Won himself add his voice to that throng.

567 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:26:35pm

re: #561 The Other Les

i will match your diet cola and raise you a chai late smoothie

568 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:26:44pm

re: #557 albusteve

be more specific

no please, don't.

569 Perplexed  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:26:46pm

What those on the left forget is that when the revolution truly comes that the intellectuals are the first ones against the wall. That's when things will get interesting.

570 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:26:50pm
571 midwestgak  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:26:50pm

re: #552 Bloodnok

Will it have backwards e's like you'd see on a child's lemonade stand.

heh. The bills will no longer say, "THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE

572 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:26:55pm

avanti.... you are also being nominated for the "Profound" club..... Cheney pulling down Bush? Are you nuts?

573 3 wood  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:26:59pm

re: #511 MandyManners

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT, YOU IGNORANT ASSHOLE.

It's the classic left wing misdirection play.

To be followed up shortly with the just as classic left wing moral equivalence play.

574 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:27:28pm

re: #573 3 wood

It's the classic left wing misdirection play.

To be followed up shortly with the just as classic left wing moral equivalence play.

Avanti's already there.

575 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:27:29pm

re: #568 itellu3times

no please, don't.

forget it...I'm going to go do my nails now

576 Lincolntf  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:27:29pm

As usual, I'm way late for this thread (and I missed the 60 Minutes broadcast, which just so happened to coincide with the WBC and the NCAA wrap-up).

So, did the Chucklehead-in-Chief make as much of an ass of himself in the rest of the interview as he did in the brief transcript at the top of this thread?

577 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:27:33pm

re: #548 itellu3times

You day trade the stuff?

I salute anyone who dips even a toe into these markets.

I keep thinking I should pick up some stuff while it's cheap, but that's what I thought all last year, and did somewhat, and lost on most of it ... so far.

I don't daytrade, I play the market swings. SKF is an ETF that double shorts the financial stocks and is surprisingly resistant to leverage decay. DXO is my oil futures ETN that is a double long on the Deutche Bank oil futures index. SKF is rather predictable, pick it up close to 100 and ride it up to 180 or 250. Sell, wait for a bear market rally and watch the price drop to 100 again, buy, repeat, make money. DXO is a longer term play because oil isn't as volatile.

578 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:27:54pm

re: #556 3 wood

So they want the private sector to help out and work with them?

Yep, and if they somehow manage to do so, successfully, they'll promptly be denounce as "greedy" and slapped with punitive taxes.

Of course, they know that already, which is why they won't... well, you know the rest.

579 CharlieBravo  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:27:58pm

re: #10 Alouette

"Punch drunk" is that another way of asking if he's stoned out of his fucking mind?

Who can order the Commander-in-chief to take a drug test?

580 OldLineTexan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:28:08pm

re: #562 ploome hineni

yes they do..IIRC there is no 'binding' like egg to keep it together, and the nuts.......I love baking with nuts

when I make them I can;t stop eating them

I think I gave reine the recipe I got from my friend Naomi...I often change it a bit, because I found the dates too sweet

I am so glad you liked them

:D

I recommend everyone try them (have napkins on hand)! Very good, and the unsweetened dates with zest are a nice balance to the cookie-ish part.

581 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:28:19pm

re: #551 avanti

I suspected as much, and thus the differences in our politics. I blame Cheney for screwing up what could have been a more successful Bush Presidency.

Mr. Cheney should be President today.

582 eastvillageinfidel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:28:39pm

"thoughtful thinkers"

My liquor bills are out of control.

583 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:28:51pm

re: #579 CharlieBravo

Who can order the Commander-in-chief to take a drug test?

Golden Flow for the POTUS!

HAHAHAHA!

584 VioletTiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:28:51pm

re: #579 CharlieBravo

Who can order the Commander-in-chief to take a drug test?

Michele.

585 WoodstockDave  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:28:53pm

Venezuela's Chavez calls Obama "ignoramus"

(Reuters) - Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez said on Sunday his U.S. counterpart Barack Obama was at best an "ignoramus" for saying the socialist leader exported terrorism and obstructed progress in Latin America.

"He goes and accuses me of exporting terrorism: the least I can say is that he's a poor ignoramus; he should read and study a little to understand reality," said Chavez
*****************************

Gee, seems like just a few months ago that a pronouncement like this would have been given all kinds of credence and would be discussed seriously among liberals.

586 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:03pm

re: #582 eastvillageinfidel

"thoughtful thinkers"

My liquor bills are out of control.

So I am not alone.

587 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:04pm
588 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:06pm

re: #567 pegcity

i will match your diet cola and raise you a chai late smoothie

I usually go with the double mocha, extra sweet.

589 Mr. Sandman  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:10pm

Doesn't make much sense how most of you will watch this completely gratuitous personal insult by this interviewer and claim the media is so blatantly biased--to the left. Obviously the laughter in the context is what people normally do to signify something of the sort "Yes, I can understand the public sentiment against more funds for the auto industry, I can see the public's point, but...". He wasn't "making jokes about the economy." And then to use that as a set-up to ask if he's "punch drunk,"-- have you ever seen an interviewer do something so disrespectful to Bush's face (and yes, there were plenty of times Bush left himself open to such a barb.

590 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:13pm

Avanti- you think people would have found Bush charming if he'd laughed about Katrina because he needed some "gallows humor"?! You provide cover for a dick.

591 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:15pm

re: #569 Perplexed

What those on the left forget is that when the revolution truly comes that the intellectuals are the first ones against the wall. That's when things will get interesting.

There are intellectuals on the left?

592 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:22pm

re: #585 WoodstockDave

Damn, that's scary.... I agree with Thugo on something.

593 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:27pm

re: #577 Jetpilot1101

I should play some trends like that, me and the Bollinger Band are such great frends, ...

594 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:32pm

re: #581 CapeCoddah

Mr. Cheney should be President today.

A grownup at the helm! Wouldn't it be nice?

595 rawmuse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:36pm

I have not seen it yet. I usually download the podcast, which is audio only. I'll have an opinion tomorrow. Suffice to say, nothing surprises me by now. Nothing.

596 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:38pm

Is it just me or were things sailing along rather swimmingly until someone put the Democrats in charge of the House and Senate in 06. Bam. Into the shitter after that.

597 pat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:42pm

re: #579 CharlieBravo

Who can order the Commander-in-chief to take a drug test?

Well if you read his released medical records like a good voter, you would know.........nothing.

598 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:29:47pm

re: #589 Mr. Sandman

You provide cover for a dick too.

599 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:30:20pm
600 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:30:25pm

re: #536 avanti

That's a risk I took with my vote, just as we all did. If a year or two from now, the economy has not recovered, then you all can have a good laugh at my expense.

I won't laugh now or then. I just shake my head in disbelief that you and your kind voted for a man who's only executive experience was giving away over $100 million of other peoples money to a FAILED socialist educational program.
You voted for a thieving socialist.
How can you expect anything but the death of the free market system and the loss of personal investment?
Twits, all of you.

601 vagabond trader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:30:26pm

re: #589 Mr. Sandman

Er. are YOU punch drunk?

602 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:30:29pm
603 rawmuse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:30:30pm

re: #596 kansas

Is it just me or were things sailing along rather swimmingly until someone put the Democrats in charge of the House and Senate in 06. Bam. Into the shitter after that.

Bingo, you nailed it.

604 3 wood  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:30:40pm

re: #529 Jetpilot1101

I have positioned myself in bank shorts and oil futures (more long term but I think they will oscillate between 40 and 60 so I'm going to trade them in that range).

Have you taken into account the impact of the devaluing dollar on the price of oil when you placed your oil positions?

Not telling you what to do, just sayin'...

605 Perplexed  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:30:48pm

re: #591 pink freud

There are intellectuals on the left?

Pseudo intellectuals are on the left. Every revolution must deal with them and they find them to be an incredible pain in the ass. So they get to be the first ones against the wall.

606 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:30:48pm

re: #589 Mr. Sandman

Doesn't make much sense how most of you will watch this completely gratuitous personal insult by this interviewer and claim the media is so blatantly biased--to the left. Obviously the laughter in the context is what people normally do to signify something of the sort "Yes, I can understand the public sentiment against more funds for the auto industry, I can see the public's point, but...". He wasn't "making jokes about the economy." And then to use that as a set-up to ask if he's "punch drunk,"-- have you ever seen an interviewer do something so disrespectful to Bush's face (and yes, there were plenty of times Bush left himself open to such a barb.

hahaha!...good one!....BO deserves no respect, look what he's done to the office

607 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:30:50pm

Let him have his gallows humor. If I were in his shoes, I'd never come out from under the desk.

Still, someone's going to have to give Mr. Hopeypants some lessons on being presidential, sometime or other.

608 Racer X  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:30:55pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

This man needs to resign.

Three words:

Joe Biden.

609 pat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:31:01pm

Chavez and Obama are equally short in the reality section of their respective minds.

610 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:31:13pm

re: #589 Mr. Sandman

Bush never made a braying donkey's ass of himself.

611 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:31:32pm

re: #591 pink freud

There are intellectuals on the left?

Ayn Rand used to call them Witch Doctors.

612 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:31:38pm

re: #608 Racer X

Three words:

Joe Biden.

Four words:

Better than Teleprompter.

613 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:31:46pm

Why do I get the feeling Obama scored a big bag of Cheetos right after this inexplicable-laughter-filled interview?

614 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:31:53pm

re: #608 Racer X

Biden would be better IMHO, & there are two words there. ?

615 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:31:54pm

re: #609 pat

yeah but he went to pull a door when it was clearly a push door, see hes an idiot

/leftards

616 VioletTiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:31:54pm

re: #596 kansas

Is it just me or were things sailing along rather swimmingly until someone put the Democrats in charge of the House and Senate in 06. Bam. Into the shitter after that.

Yeah, funny thing about that, right?

617 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:31:57pm

re: #598 Sharmuta

You provide cover for a dick too.

Don't have a brand of condoms for that one, but I'd bet they'd be pretty gritty.

618 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:32:11pm

re: #589 Mr. Sandman

Doesn't make much sense how most of you will watch this completely gratuitous personal insult by this interviewer and claim the media is so blatantly biased--to the left. Obviously the laughter in the context is what people normally do to signify something of the sort "Yes, I can understand the public sentiment against more funds for the auto industry, I can see the public's point, but...". He wasn't "making jokes about the economy." And then to use that as a set-up to ask if he's "punch drunk,"-- have you ever seen an interviewer do something so disrespectful to Bush's face (and yes, there were plenty of times Bush left himself open to such a barb.

Are you kidding me? No personal insults. Give me a break.

619 soxfanscott  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:32:20pm

re: #456 CLLRusso

Yes, I agree with you on Romney. Undoubtedly the most qualified candidate from an econ standpoint. But he was kicked to the curb by the "Republican establishment"...ooohhh that scary Mormon guy....

From National Review.................................
AIG, Bain, and Financial Pain [Mitt Romney]

The news that employees at AIG are on the verge of being rewarded $165 million in bonuses at a time when the insurance giant is on the verge of collapse is rightly shocking to taxpayers who have pumped billions into the company to keep it afloat. Of course, the Obama administration was wrong to initially defend the bonuses as contractually obligated. In 1990, I was asked to assume the CEO position at the management consulting firm Bain & Co., then in acute financial distress. The need to restructure was paramount or else the company would fail, leaving 1,000 employees without a job. We renegotiated debt with bankers. We rewrote leases with landlords. We designed a whole new governing system. We also had to convince the founding partners to turn back profits they had already taken out of the company. Of course, we had no legal basis for making such a request, but without a shared sacrifice we couldn’t keep the company alive. Generously, the founders returned the money, putting us on a path to stabilizing the firm and turning it over to new leadership. It’s difficult to understand why the same lesson about shared sacrifice is lost on AIG’s executive team and their government overseers.

620 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:32:20pm

re: #589 Mr. Sandman

And then to use that as a set-up to ask if he's "punch drunk,"-- have you ever seen an interviewer do something so disrespectful to Bush's face (and yes, there were plenty of times Bush left himself open to such a barb.

Have you been sleeping for the past 8 years?

621 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:32:22pm

re: #589 Mr. Sandman

have you ever seen an interviewer do something so disrespectful to Bush's face (and yes, there were plenty of times Bush left himself open to such a barb.

Are you kidding? Yes, absolutely, only the interviewer generally STARTED with accusatory and unanswerable questions.

622 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:32:22pm

re: #551 avanti

I suspected as much, and thus the differences in our politics. I blame Cheney for screwing up what could have been a more successful Bush Presidency.

As far as I am concerned, President Bush was absolutely successful. He kept us safe. That was his job. The rest of the bullshit was just that... bullshit.

623 iLikeCandy  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:32:32pm

re: #608 Racer X

Three words:

Joe Biden.

I think they'll all be gone before four years are out. But if Biden becomes president, he will live in mortal fear of what happened to his predecessor.

/broken record, sorry

624 brookly red  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:32:34pm

re: #547 Iron Fist

But that would be torture! Torture!

Torture!Torture!Torture!Torture!Torture!Torture!To rture!Torture!
Torture!Torture!Torture!Torture!Torture!Torture!To rture!Torture!
Torture!Torture!Torture!Torture!Torture!Torture!To rture!Torture!

[/MSM newspaper puppy training pants]

well you could just take them off...

625 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:32:39pm

re: #596 kansas

Is it just me or were things sailing along rather swimmingly until someone put the Democrats in charge of the House and Senate in 06. Bam. Into the shitter after that.

I wouldn't say "swimmingly", but the problems seemed manageable.

626 right_wing2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:32:40pm

re: #371 whiterasta

BHO must have woke wake up on January 22nd every morning since the election and said to himself: "What the hell just happened?"

A classic case of be careful what you wish for......

Fixed

627 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:32:51pm

re: #589 Mr. Sandman

I don't know whats in your bong, but its obviously toxic.

628 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:33:13pm
629 Mountain Mary  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:33:27pm

Did anyone notice Ears ears? They were bright, iridescent flappingly red: see Psych 101. "flaming red ears are a sign of lying or ...lying"
Also, how 'bout the blindingly white choppers? He and "Stand Up Chuck" must have gotten a two for one special.
It's a distraction you know, so those in Rio Linda won't notice what is happening to our country. Hopefully, the rest of us will see through it!

630 3 wood  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:33:29pm

re: #548 itellu3times

You day trade the stuff?

I salute anyone who dips even a toe into these markets.

I keep thinking I should pick up some stuff while it's cheap, but that's what I thought all last year, and did somewhat, and lost on most of it ... so far.

My advice FWIW, don't put any money in the market that you want back in less than 5 years.

631 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:33:36pm
632 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:33:46pm

re: #593 itellu3times

I should play some trends like that, me and the Bollinger Band are such great frends, ...

Its somewhat nerve racking and not for the faint of heart. Don't play with the mortgage payment but otherwise, have fun and make money. The mortgage defaults were the first wave of the credit crisis. There are rumblings on the horizon that credit card debt and unsecured loans are next. When the default rates on credit cards and unsecured debt begin to mount, watch the financial fires burn. We are in a world of hurt right now and it's just getting warmed up. The financial crisis is far from over no matter what the MFMSM says.

633 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:33:49pm

re: #536 avanti

That's a risk I took with my vote, just as we all did. If a year or two from now, the economy has not recovered, then you all can have a good laugh at my expense.

How 'bout I just have a good laugh at your expense right now?

634 Racer X  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:33:55pm

re: #614 Ojoe

Biden would be better IMHO, & there are two words there. ?

Sorry - Biden joke (3 letters).

I honestly believe Biden would be worse. Add to that the outrage from the left if Barry were to resign.

(sorry - I have not read through all the comments)

635 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:34:13pm

re: #557 albusteve

be more specific

How did Cheney negatively influence Bush?

-Because he's evil

How is he evil?

-Because he negatively influenced Bush

How did he negatively influence Bush?

/

636 path  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:34:13pm

re: #293 Charles

I have to admit, I'm really not understanding the point of these "tea parties." Are they supposed to accomplish something? If so, I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?

Can't believe that I'm responding to Charles but, here goes... What are we supposed to do? I wrote to almost every Senator and Congressman and the response was, "your not in my district." Since I work I can't spend my day on the phone calling everyone in Washington. Perhaps this is the average person's way of making a statement that our government is seems to now be out of control.

One of my big things was the "crisis, crisis, crisis and rush, rush, rush" mentality - your passing a bill that few if any actually read? Does that make sense to anyone?

Yes I want our President to "tell it like it is" but, this man is SO negative about almost everything that it's no wonder the market keeps going down. Doesn't he believe in America at all?

Maybe, just maybe, if someone begins paying attention to these tea parties, the politicians will get a message that not everyone's happy with what they're currently doing. Maybe some of them will begin to consider the consequences.

637 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:34:20pm

Sandman.... please do us all a favor and take avanti's meds....

638 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:34:30pm

re: #631 Iron Fist

That's one of the reasons I say that the internet allows conversations to happen that simply wouldn't happen if we were face to face.

I'm not so sure about that. I've had conversations like that face-to-face, but maybe that's just me.

639 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:34:31pm

re: #579 CharlieBravo

Who can order the Commander-in-chief to take a drug test?

His employers, perhaps?

640 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:34:56pm

re: #639 CapeCoddah

His employers, perhaps?

How about his subjects?

641 yesandno  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:35:15pm

re: #536 avanti

That's a risk I took with my vote, just as we all did. If a year or two from now, the economy has not recovered, then you all can have a good laugh at my expense.

Voting for someone shouldn't be a risk. There should be checks and balances so the whole government doesn't go bust at the same time. Had anybody vetted him and explained his theory of government and life, even you may not have voted for him.

But like voting for the stimulus package, you pulled a moonbeam from your ass and pulled the lever for the 0 not knowing a thing about him--but it felt good. You took the risk. We didn't and yet we have to live with it all because 52% of the country like to gamble and selected a President that is haughty, condescending, and unqualified. I hope the country can survive the bad times. But right now, it looks iffy.

You, on the other hand, will have passed your 15 minutes of vain by then and may well be gone from here. We can hope for that change to be sure.

642 FrogMarch  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:35:18pm

re: #589 Mr. Sandman

Riiiight.

The press treated Bush like shit. You know it. To see an interviewer on CBS say something outside of the normal fawning ethos is astonishing, isn't it?

After a phone call from Axelrod or Begala, I'm certain CBS will return to the standard "normal" fawning easy (D) questions - and soon.

643 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:35:20pm

re: #589 Mr. Sandman

Obviously the laughter in the context is what people normally do to signify something of the sort "Yes, I can understand the public sentiment against more funds for the auto industry,

Oh, THAT laugh. Of course! Now I get it.

644 Sosigado  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:35:32pm

Dude is imploding. It's become more than apparent that he's unfit for the job. I'm guessing that he lays awake at night wishing like hell he could just got back to Chicago and practice socialism at the regional level. I think the man's scared shitless.

645 Mr. Sandman  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:35:39pm

re: #620 Charles

Show me an interview where Bush is personally insulted by the interviewer to the same degree (i.e., where the interviewer does the equivalent of sarcastically asking him if he's "punch-drunk")

646 formercorpsman  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:35:40pm

re: #536 avanti

Avanti, I think the point Sharmuta is trying to make with you, as so many others are, is that in 2 years having the last laugh will be the least of our worries.

It is obvious we go through ups and downs despite who is leading the country. It is how they handle the ups and downs that matter.

I have seen nothing yet that gives me any confidence we have a cabinet that has a clue. Dodd writes in legislation to protect the bonus. Obama get in front of a microphone and lambastes AIG for paying out the bonus. They played both sides of that coin, and now we are looking at the Draconian measures of having big brother regulate private executive pay in the future.

Meanwhile, he is on Leno, laughing on 60 minutes, making idiotic jokes, and Rome is burning. The largest terror sponsor is marching into nuclear capability, and my children will be paying just the interest on the loan for ACORN'S future endeavors.

The last laugh? Are you even serious?

647 pat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:35:44pm

re: #413 soxfanscott

True

648 Lincolntf  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:36:06pm

re: #551 avanti

Of course you blame Cheney.
Because anything that Bush did came right through Congress, so you can't blame him.
You and your pasty ilk pick a man in an Office with amorphous responsibilities to channel your adolescent hatred towards because he has an empty portfolio (by design, by the way) that allows the simple-minded a blank canvas upon which to scrawl their fantasies of oppression.

649 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:36:11pm

re: #629 Mountain Mary

Red ears.
White choppers.
Blue lips.

650 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:36:12pm

re: #641 yesandno

Voting for someone shouldn't be a risk. There should be checks and balances so the whole government doesn't go bust at the same time. Had anybody vetted him and explained his theory of government and life, even you may not have voted for him.

But like voting for the stimulus package, you pulled a moonbeam from your ass and pulled the lever for the 0 not knowing a thing about him--but it felt good. You took the risk. We didn't and yet we have to live with it all because 52% of the country like to gamble and selected a President that is haughty, condescending, and unqualified. I hope the country can survive the bad times. But right now, it looks iffy.

You, on the other hand, will have passed your 15 minutes of vain by then and may well be gone from here. We can hope for that change to be sure.

Good post!

651 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:36:18pm

Imagine the reaction had Bush laughed while being asked questions about Katrina.

652 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:36:22pm

Obama Action Figure

653 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:36:23pm

re: #604 3 wood

Have you taken into account the impact of the devaluing dollar on the price of oil when you placed your oil positions?

Not telling you what to do, just sayin'...

Yes I did. I am watching to dollar carefully which is why I got into the somewhat riskier double long as opposed to a simple long position. More risk but based on the dollars performance, I will be able to reap the gains sooner.

654 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:36:25pm

re: #645 Mr. Sandman

Again, where the fuck have you been for the past nine years?

655 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:36:31pm

re: #638 Honorary Yooper

I'm not so sure about that. I've had conversations like that face-to-face, but maybe that's just me.

Often when I discuss politics face to face I end up screaming at someone.

656 Achilles Tang  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:36:46pm

re: #631 Iron Fist

That's one of the reasons I say that the internet allows conversations to happen that simply wouldn't happen if we were face to face.

That's one part of it, but the other reason they wouldn't happen is because most of us would never be face to face.

657 stevieray  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:36:51pm

re: #532 Killgore Trout

See #231.
Also see: Why Cloward-Piven is a bullshit conspiracy theory.

and....The Cloward-Piven Candidate?

Thanks for answering!

I don't think Obama wants to tank the economy, I think he wants the government to run it. There would be no point in tanking the Dow through outrageous statements, that would be counterproductive. Better to let everybody twist in the wind until the common folk demand more government intrusion -- its always better to be invited in than to push through the door.

Nothing in your links rules out the "never waste a crisis" view of Obama's dithering -- it could be by plan as easily as not.

658 pat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:36:56pm

re: #645 Mr. Sandman

Show me an interview where Bush is personally insulted by the interviewer to the same degree (i.e., where the interviewer does the equivalent of sarcastically asking him if he's "punch-drunk")

Sheeeesh. One guy threw a shoe at him. Good enough?

659 BigJohn  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:03pm

re: #627 DEZes

I don't know whats in your bong, but its obviously toxic.

Must be the Hopium.

660 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:03pm

re: #503 kansas

Yeah, and we all know this is a popularity contest.

Well, yes it is. A popular President can move his agenda, and unpopular one is a early lame duck. Even in a election, a popular candidate will beat a better qualified, but less popular one.
That's the reality of the situation, not judging the correctness of it.

661 curt9988  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:12pm

Obama is in over his head. He's an empty suit who has no idea what he is doing. For the first time in my 43 years, I'm honestly scared about the economic future of our country. This is what you get when you give someone a position of responsibility based on his skin color and not his qualifications. Affirmative action doesn't work for burger-flippers, and it sure as hell isn't working for President.

Good job, 53% of American voters. You must be very proud.

662 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:13pm

re: #634 Racer X

Well Biden could not garner the semi-idolatrous fawning that Obama gets and that alone would be better for the country, to have no fawning after the President.


IMHO.

BBL

663 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:13pm

re: #645 Mr. Sandman

Show me an interview of Bush laughing about Katrina, or 9/11.

664 Adrenalyn  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:14pm

re: #628 taxfreekiller

Keep your eye on Nancy Pelosi and the House,

The Democrats lust more for an "amnesty" for the 20,000,000 illegals more than gold. Those votes made legal is the end game and they know it.

As Obama plays the fool, Nancy and John McCain are plotting a rush to pass the amnesty.

Be Prepared.

indeed and agreed
and this is why 0bama is better in the White House now than McCain
maybe his being there will rally the remaining Republicans

McCain was not the republican in the race
he was simply, the other liberal

665 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:18pm

re: #651 Sharmuta

Imagine the reaction had Bush laughed while being asked questions about Katrina.

And this is 5 fold worse.

666 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:27pm

re: #652 HelloDare

Obama Action Figure

I saw an Obama Chia Pet today at Walgreen's.

667 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:30pm

Avanti and Mr Sandman are both the prophylactic that protect Obama from the Right Wing Conspiracy.

//

668 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:31pm

re: #587 ploome hineni

want a cuppa tea?

Perhaps caffeine is not the best option.

669 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:33pm

re: #630 3 wood

My advice FWIW, don't put any money in the market that you want back in less than 5 years.

I remain more optimistic than that, in spite of all.*

Anyone with the guts, brains, and/or luck to have bought C and BAC and GE ten days ago, saw their investments double - briefly, since. Question isn't where such stocks will be in five years, question is whether they will be nationalized in five weeks, or five hours. And whether C or GE can survive the dilution, to the government for C, and to Warren Buffet for GE.

*but I've been wrong before!

670 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:38pm

re: #645 Mr. Sandman

bush was hilarious but in a good way, the guy was a classic cut up, unlike Obama who's that guy who only laughs at his own jokes.

See Bush Giving the camera the finger or when hes getting interviewed at the party and talking about his friend getting married.

671 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:38pm

re: #659 BigJohn

Must be the Hopium.

Oh thats good. ;)

672 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:42pm

honestly..... to compare Obama with Bush on ANY level is insulting.

673 NY Nana  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:50pm

re: #493 Colonel Panik

How about this?

Youtube Video
674 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:37:59pm
675 lawhawk  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:38:23pm

re: #642 FrogMarch

Then again, the economic policy that they're proposing - limiting executive compensation at all companies (and that's a subject that was broached this weekend) would hit ALL companies, including those multinational corporations that include the likes of GE (owner of NBC and its ilk), ThomsonReuters, AOLTimeWarner, etc.

The CEOs and bigwigs may be starting to wonder just what the heck they got us in to with this guy. I'd say it's a remote possibility, but when you get CEOs and major executives wondering if their own relatively safe jobs are about to get hit with massive tax hikes (you know, the kind that they were busy claiming should hit the rich - THEM), they're getting a dose of reality.

676 KitchenQueen  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:38:38pm

re: #497 pink freud

Even better. (Almost) :-)


Rush! Mark! Rush! Mark! :D
0 just handed Steyn a big present with this Kroft interview. I can't wait.

677 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:38:38pm

re: #645 Mr. Sandman

Show me an interview where Bush is personally insulted by the interviewer to the same degree (i.e., where the interviewer does the equivalent of sarcastically asking him if he's "punch-drunk")

Show me an interview where Bush acted as inappropriately.

678 iLikeCandy  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:38:51pm

re: #645 Mr. Sandman

Show me an interview where Bush is personally insulted by the interviewer to the same degree (i.e., where the interviewer does the equivalent of sarcastically asking him if he's "punch-drunk")

Was Kroft being sarcastic? I haven't seen the segment, but it looks to me as though he's honestly incredulous and he may be offering Obama a small lifeline, as in "You might want to stop laughing now or explain it to your advantage."

679 Adrenalyn  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:38:55pm

re: #651 Sharmuta

Imagine the reaction had Bush laughed while being asked questions about Katrina.

or after 9/11

this is bigger

the WTC came down, end of story
our house of cards is still coming down around us all
and at some point, our kids won't be able to pay for it

680 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:38:55pm

re: #645 Mr. Sandman

Show me an interview where Bush is personally insulted by the interviewer to the same degree (i.e., where the interviewer does the equivalent of sarcastically asking him if he's "punch-drunk")

Tricksy interviewers. We hates them!

681 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:40:00pm
682 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:40:01pm

re: #645 Mr. Sandman

Show me an interview where Bush is personally insulted by the interviewer to the same degree (i.e., where the interviewer does the equivalent of sarcastically asking him if he's "punch-drunk")

Show me an interview where Bush laughed like a foolish child while -- in front of the entire country -- while their economy was going down the crapper.


0bama is a fool. He deserved the question.

683 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:40:06pm

re: #680 Bloodnok

i can just picture Rahm stabbing a table with a hunting knife yelling "DEAD"

684 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:40:15pm
685 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:40:29pm

re: #660 avanti

Well, yes it is. A popular President can move his agenda, and unpopular one is a early lame duck. Even in a election, a popular candidate will beat a better qualified, but less popular one.
.

Now we see how that popular unqualified guy will do. Ben Dover.

686 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:40:41pm

re: #589 Mr. Sandman

Doesn't make much sense how most of you will watch this completely gratuitous personal insult by this interviewer and claim the media is so blatantly biased--to the left.

Obama likes this guy.

Kroft's interview style is highly respected by Barack Obama, who has accordingly given Kroft a high degree of access. In 2008 Obama granted Kroft, who had interviewed him on five prior occasions, his first interview after being elected President of the United States.[6]

687 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:40:45pm

re: #683 pegcity

i can just picture Rahm stabbing a table with a hunting knife yelling "DEAD"

Wouldn't be the first time Rahm's done that.

688 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:41:05pm

re: #684 Iron Fist

Hey, man, did you catch that pic I linked to that pretty 1911?

Nope. Where?

689 VioletTiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:41:12pm

re: #677 HelloDare

Show me an interview where Bush acted as inappropriately.

Bush acted like an adult and a gentleman because he was one. He displayed the decorum due the office of president. He didn't treat any situation like a joke--unlike Obama who has treated his office with disrespect.

690 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:41:12pm

re: #687 Honorary Yooper

Wouldn't be the first time Rahm's done that.

Scary is it not?

691 MandyManners  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:42:04pm

re: #410 avanti

Is this where I'm supposed to hurl back a insulting reply. It's been so long since grade school, I forget the drill.

In elementary school you'd be dangling on a hook by the band of your underwear after we'd given you an atomic wedgie. You and that uber-fuck, Mr. Sandman.

692 The Shadow Do  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:42:12pm

Just guessin', but maybe Avanti thinks Dick Cheney is a little too conservative?

Heh

/Love me some Cheney, he would be the perfect POTUS

693 KitchenQueen  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:42:12pm

re: #506 Dr. Shalit

Steyn should have his OWN syndicated Radio Show.

Rush/Steyn/Levin 24/7!

694 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:42:19pm

Towercam!

695 BigJohn  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:42:20pm

re: #671 DEZes

It originated from one of the other LFGer's.

696 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:42:24pm

re: #689 VioletTiger

Bush acted like an adult and a gentleman because he was one. He displayed the decorum due the office of president. He didn't treat any situation like a joke--unlike Obama who has treated his office with disrespect is a joke.

FIFY

697 VioletTiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:42:27pm

re: #680 Bloodnok

Tricksy interviewers. We hates them!

They insulted the precious!

698 Adrenalyn  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:42:28pm

is this same CBS that employed Dan Rather
the guy who forged documents alleging Bush went AWOL

and one poster (who shall not be named) is worried about Steve Kroft actually asking a relevant question ?

699 Racer X  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:42:31pm

re: #661 curt9988

Obama is in over his head. He's an empty suit who has no idea what he is doing. For the first time in my 43 years, I'm honestly scared about the economic future of our country. This is what you get when you give someone a position of responsibility based on his skin color and not his qualifications. Affirmative action doesn't work for burger-flippers, and it sure as hell isn't working for President.

Good job, 53% of American voters. You must be very proud.

I honestly feel bad for the hard working intelligent minorities out there. Obama is not representing well.

700 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:42:38pm

When Kroft asks if Obama is punch-drunk, it has nothing to do with alcohol level. Punch drunk means to be dazed or exhausted. I don't see why anyone would think it is a disrespectful thing to ask. Obama was acting slap- happy. It was a good question.

701 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:42:47pm
702 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:43:18pm

re: #695 BigJohn

It originated from one of the other LFGer's.

Still a good one.
You got an up ding regardless, and I let it stand.

703 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:43:19pm

re: #694 Ojoe

Towercam!

Nice. I was expecting snow.

704 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:43:26pm

re: #691 MandyManners


GO.TO.BED.

705 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:43:39pm

re: #691 MandyManners

In elementary school you'd be dangling on a hook by the band of your underwear after we'd given you an atomic wedgie. You and that uber-fuck, Mr. Sandman.

avanti provides cover for dicks.

706 lawhawk  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:43:47pm

re: #680 Bloodnok

Hmmm... I can recall journalists calling him Mr. Bush instead of President.

I can recall Helen Thomas' accusatory and derogatory statements every time she "asked" President Bush or his staffers a question.

707 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:43:56pm

re: #160 avanti

Twice in less than a week the man has shown how much of an insensitive and clueless prick he is, except to the sycophants such as you. The man was overexposed from the get-go.

708 MandyManners  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:44:14pm

Gah.

Goodnight. Again. For final.

709 axegrinder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:44:26pm

re: #700 Mich-again

When Kroft asks if Obama is punch-drunk, it has nothing to do with alcohol level. Punch drunk means to be dazed or exhausted. I don't see why anyone would think it is a disrespectful thing to ask. Obama was acting slap- happy. It was a good question.

I absolutely think it was disrespectful. However, Obama's actions warranted it.

710 FrogMarch  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:44:30pm

re: #675 lawhawk

Then again, the economic policy that they're proposing - limiting executive compensation at all companies (and that's a subject that was broached this weekend) would hit ALL companies, including those multinational corporations that include the likes of GE (owner of NBC and its ilk), ThomsonReuters, AOLTimeWarner, etc.

The CEOs and bigwigs may be starting to wonder just what the heck they got us in to with this guy. I'd say it's a remote possibility, but when you get CEOs and major executives wondering if their own relatively safe jobs are about to get hit with massive tax hikes (you know, the kind that they were busy claiming should hit the rich - THEM), they're getting a dose of reality.

The left shock me with their blind faith candidate adoration. But when the game strikes at home - different story. You may be right. We are so used to the fawning press and their easy questions.

711 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:44:31pm

re: #705 Sharmuta

That " should read cm.

712 midwestgak  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:44:39pm

re: #689 VioletTiger

Bush acted like an adult and a gentleman because he was one. He displayed the decorum due the office of president. He didn't treat any situation like a joke--unlike Obama who has treated his office with disrespect.

Mr. Bush wore a suit and tie and would not take off his suit coat whenever he was in the Oval Office.

Unlike the current resident who rolls up his sleeves (still not know why he does that/), wears no tie and unbuttons his collar.

713 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:44:41pm

re: #703 HelloDare

The far peaks have snow; new too, but not down to the lower elevations. The highest peak back there is 10,080 feet. (Mt. San Antonio).

714 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:44:41pm

re: #613 Occasional Reader

Why do I get the feeling Obama scored a big bag of Cheetos right after this inexplicable-laughter-filled interview?

CHOOM!

715 Noam Chumpski  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:44:48pm

O's telepromtper just got stuck on:

"...[relaxed laughter]..."
...
"...[relaxed laughter]..."
...
"...[relaxed laughter]..."
...
"...[relaxed laughter]..."
...
"...[relaxed laughter]..."
.../execute boot dos

716 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:44:57pm

re: #694 Ojoe

Towercam!


River-bar cam. No fishing today

717 Lincolntf  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:45:01pm

re: #645 Mr. Sandman

Seriously, are you new to America?
For the last eight years, everyone who broke wind in the White House was subjected to the third degree by the press. Including the President.
Obama is a typical chump-ass poser who absolutely can not stand the fact that he's a laughingstock, so I don't blame you for trying to protect him.
But the little scrub needs to learn how to speak so that he isn't "misunderstood" so often.
For a "great orator" he's already asked for a hell of a lot of mulligans.

718 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:45:02pm

re: #710 FrogMarch

thats more classic Cult of personality worship

719 gregg  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:45:09pm

re: #653 Jetpilot1101

Yes I did. I am watching to dollar carefully which is why I got into the somewhat riskier double long as opposed to a simple long position. More risk but based on the dollars performance, I will be able to reap the gains sooner.

You may find this article interesting:

Investors will begin to stampede out of financial assets such as Treasuries and into hard assets like precious metals and certain commodities whose price has been severely beaten down. These will offer comparatively much safer stores of wealth, ones with a real profit potential. China, via its resource buys, is already blazing the trail, going energetically into hard assets, rather than sustaining its 2008 rate of purchases of Treasuries and other financial assets.

I'm the world's worst investor, so I'm not offering you any advice.

720 pat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:45:34pm

I wonder what the Democrats feel. We are at about a gaffe a day. Hot Air has an Obamamateur Watch feature. Biden is a joke.

721 Perplexed  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:45:39pm

re: #699 Racer X

I honestly feel bad for the hard working intelligent minorities out there. Obama is not representing well.

IF and only if this country comes out of this mess in one piece it will be incredibly hard for any minority to even get the nomination. The backlash is going to be incredible over the way Obama and the democrats have ruined the country. Will be hard for anyone not in mainstream politics to get the nomination as well. The big question is going to be "what is your experience level?"

722 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:45:47pm

re: #689 VioletTiger

Bush acted like an adult and a gentleman because he was one. He displayed the decorum due the office of president. He didn't treat any situation like a joke--unlike Obama who has treated his office with disrespect.

One cannot learn or buy class. One has it or one does not.

723 stevieray  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:45:56pm

Charles:

When the autocomment box is ticked, and I'm writing a comment, the new comments don't appear (Good. That is how you designed it.)

However, if I click on "preview" to, well, preview my comment before submission, the new comments begin appearing immediately... sending my yet-unsubmitted comment scampering away downthread.

724 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:46:05pm

re: #709 axegrinder

I absolutely think it was disrespectful. However, Obama's actions warranted it.

He could have phrased it in a more politically correct fashion. I am thinking this would have been better.
"What the fuck is wrong with you?"

725 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:46:11pm

re: #496 avanti

Only person more unpopular then Obama on the right is Cheney on the left. That's one of the reasons the interview will be seen so differently by both sides.

Who's the current fucking POTUS, you stupid ass-kissing dipshit?

726 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:46:12pm
727 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:46:30pm

re: #708 MandyManners

Gah.

Goodnight. Again. For final.

Cup of hot chocolate, nice hotwater bottle, fluff up the pillows, a good book...........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

728 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:46:38pm

re: #691 MandyManners

In elementary school you'd be dangling on a hook by the band of your underwear after we'd given you an atomic wedgie. You and that uber-fuck, Mr. Sandman.

Hanging on a hook inside his locker.

729 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:46:41pm

re: #554 lawhawk

You voted for the most inexperienced and untested candidate the nation has chosen in generations. That was beyond risky.


The majority of the voters picked change, even with the risks involved. The thing that the right has to realize is many of the things BHO has done and will do, will piss you off, but win him support with the left and middle.
Of course, if he fails, his support will drop even if they still "like" him.

730 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:46:53pm

re: #723 stevieray

Charles:

When the autocomment box is ticked, and I'm writing a comment, the new comments don't appear (Good. That is how you designed it.)

However, if I click on "preview" to, well, preview my comment before submission, the new comments begin appearing immediately... sending my yet-unsubmitted comment scampering away downthread.

That's the built in exerciser feature, since this new auto button has made us all so lazy. :-)

731 ladycatnip  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:47:03pm

#660 avanti

Well, yes it is. A popular President can move his agenda, and unpopular one is a early lame duck. Even in a election, a popular candidate will beat a better qualified, but less popular one. That's the reality of the situation, not judging the correctness of it.

omg, you are in high school.

732 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:47:13pm

re: #496 avanti

Only person more unpopular then Obama on the right is Cheney on the left. That's one of the reasons the interview will be seen so differently by both sides.

The POTUS is not the fucking Queen of the Prom!

733 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:47:21pm

re: #713 Ojoe

The far peaks have snow; new too, but not down to the lower elevations. The highest peak back there is 10,080 feet. (Mt. San Antonio).

I'm in L.A., too. Last night I heard some weather person say that snow levels might get down to 3,500 feet -- even 3,000. As you know, that's really low for here. They were expecting a lot more rain. The storm was a dud.

734 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:47:30pm

re: #729 avanti

oh yeah im sure middle America is just pleased as punch right now.

735 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:47:31pm

re: #719 gregg

I will read that article, thanks for posting. I own no treasuries or financial instruments but I do own a lot of gold. All my plays in the market are short term; playing the swings. I an not "investing", I'm "gambling" but doing so based on trend analysis and a lot of research.

736 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:47:32pm

Question - did President O just giggle, or did he also have the munchies?

737 yesandno  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:47:38pm

re: #667 Gus 802

Avanti and Mr Sandman are both the prophylactic that protect Obama from the Right Wing Conspiracy.

//

Guess that would make their heads spin.............

738 Perplexed  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:47:57pm

re: #712 midwestgak

Mr. Bush wore a suit and tie and would not take off his suit coat whenever he was in the Oval Office.

Unlike the current resident who rolls up his sleeves (still not know why he does that/), wears no tie and unbuttons his collar.

Near total lack of decorum and no respect for the office.

739 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:48:06pm

re: #651 Sharmuta

Imagine the reaction had Bush laughed while being asked questions about Katrina.

Great post!

740 DEZes  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:48:11pm

All I can take, Night all.

741 stevieray  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:48:19pm

re: #730 pink freud

That's the built in exerciser feature, since this new auto button has made us all so lazy. :-)

*smacks forehead*

Of course! And a good feature it is! My p.j.s were already getting tight around the middle.

742 rawmuse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:48:24pm

Love this guy.

743 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:48:31pm

re: #737 yesandno

Guess that would make their heads spin.............

Literally. Of course we must consider them the stiff opposition.

//

744 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:48:34pm

re: #729 avanti

The majority of the voters picked change, even with the risks involved. The thing that the right has to realize is many of the things BHO has done and will do, will piss you off, but win him support with the left and middle.
Of course, if he fails, his support will drop even if they still "like" him.

This is high school thinking.

745 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:48:46pm
746 BigJohn  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:48:50pm

re: #720 pat

I wonder what the Democrats feel. We are at about a gaffe a day. Hot Air has an Obamamateur Watch feature. Biden is a joke.

Does anyone remember the movie "Soul Man"? C. Thomas Howell disguises himself as an African-American. To take advantage of affirmative action for entrance into Harvard. They really want him for their pick-up basketball team.

That is how the democrats should feel.

747 3 wood  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:48:51pm

Good night folks. See you in the morning.

748 FrogMarch  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:48:57pm

re: #718 pegcity

thats more classic Cult of personality worship

yep.

749 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:49:12pm

re: #675 lawhawk

Where does Congress imagine it gets the right to do any such thing?!

750 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:49:34pm

re: #729 avanti

The majority of the voters picked change, even with the risks involved. The thing that the right has to realize is many of the things BHO has done and will do, will piss you off, but win him support with the left and middle.
Of course, if he fails, his support will drop even if they still "like" him.

Do you want a Leader or an American Idol?

751 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:49:53pm

re: #729 avanti

The majority of the voters picked change, even with the risks involved. The thing that the right has to realize is many of the things BHO has done and will do, will piss you off, but win him support with the left and middle.
Of course, if he fails, his support will drop even if they still "like" him.

You are so full of shit. You make assumptions, then tell people what they have to realize, which - earth to Avanti - they don't have to, and then you cover yourself by saying they will - or they won't. You are a waste of pixels.

752 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:49:56pm

Evening Lizards

I just read about the Kroft interview on Drudge. I am glad to see LGF covering it. Does anyone know when it airs? Or do I have to search You Tube?

753 iLikeCandy  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:50:05pm

Good night, all.

754 dekalb  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:50:07pm

Is there a movement to encourage BHO to resign? Like those tea party gatherings? This guy really is an empty suit.

755 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:50:15pm

re: #729 avanti

The majority of the voters picked change, even with the risks involved. The thing that the right has to realize is many of the things BHO has done and will do, will piss you off, but win him support with the left and middle.
Of course, if he fails, his support will drop even if they still "like" him.

Enough with the campaign slogans. The campaign is over.

756 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:50:17pm

re: #749 Dianna

Where does Congress imagine it gets the right to do any such thing?!

They won.
/sigh

757 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:50:28pm

Avanti -

I really are tired of the "vet from middle America who simply wants to have a conversation with moderates" act.

You are shameless.

People from middle America have the capacity for shame. You don't.

Interestingly, you always seem to use the appropriate rhetorical device to present yourself as "the fair minded guy" which then frames those who oppose you as not fair minded.

You are a fucking plant.

Either a potted planted with zero political, economic and practical literacy.

That, or a progressive "board minder".

Don't care which version - your act is old. Stale. Predictable.

Gaze time.

758 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:50:31pm

re: #749 Dianna

Where does Congress imagine it gets the right to do any such thing?!

Who are you to dare to ask such a question!

//////

They know better they won and election!

759 rawmuse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:50:32pm

I watched "Idiocracy" the other night.
I did not know whether to laugh or cry.
The future is now.

760 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:50:43pm

re: #729 avanti

The majority of voters got snookered by a media blitz so openly partisan that was staggering in its scope.

761 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:50:49pm

re: #754 dekalb

Is there a movement to encourage BHO to resign? Like those tea party gatherings? This guy really is an empty suit.

I started this new movement at #40.

762 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:50:59pm

re: #752 Afrocity

CBS has it here: [Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

763 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:51:00pm

re: #709 axegrinder

I absolutely think it was disrespectful. However, Obama's actions warranted it.

Was it the term "punch-drunk" that was disrespectful? Or is it the whole notion of a reporter asking personal questions about his state of mind.

I think a reporter has the right to get some context to the person's frame of mind to put the answers they give into context. Particularly if the person is acting erratic.

764 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:51:04pm

re: #632 Jetpilot1101

Its somewhat nerve racking and not for the faint of heart. Don't play with the mortgage payment but otherwise, have fun and make money. The mortgage defaults were the first wave of the credit crisis. There are rumblings on the horizon that credit card debt and unsecured loans are next. When the default rates on credit cards and unsecured debt begin to mount, watch the financial fires burn. We are in a world of hurt right now and it's just getting warmed up. The financial crisis is far from over no matter what the MFMSM says.


I agree about the just getting warmed up. I'm also swing trading. Made some, waiting on others. Good luck to you.

765 formercorpsman  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:51:10pm

re: #729 avanti

The majority of the voters picked change, even with the risks involved. The thing that the right has to realize is many of the things BHO has done and will do, will piss you off, but win him support with the left and middle.
Of course, if he fails, his support will drop even if they still "like" him.

Man, you don't know how much that illustrates what you say in so many directions.

766 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:51:13pm

re: #759 rawmuse

I watched "Idiocracy" the other night.
I did not know whether to laugh or cry.
The future is now.

Calm down, have some Gatorade.
///

767 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:51:24pm

re: #742 rawmuse

Love this guy.

Me too. He should be President.

768 Noam Chumpski  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:51:29pm

re: #738 Perplexed

Near total lack of decorum and no respect for the office.

I really think that Obama never got above a highschool level in his critical thinking and his understanding of propriety and symbolism is on par with a 12 year old.

He's not smart - I would argue not even book smart; forget wisdom - but if anyone can point me to a copy of his grades (at any level of education) and prove me at least "scholastically" wrong, then I will happily concede.

769 Sosigado  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:51:34pm

re: #732 Alouette

The POTUS is not the fucking Queen of the Prom!

Remember, liberals are extremely shallow. Perception is everything. As Rush calls it, symbolism over substance.

770 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:51:44pm
771 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:52:06pm
772 keeping it simple  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:52:10pm

re: #551 avanti

I suspected as much, and thus the differences in our politics. I blame Cheney for screwing up what could have been a more successful Bush Presidency.

That does it. The first downding I've given since I became a lizard which wasn't that long ago but I vowed when I started I wouldn't downding unless I read something that made me angry. This did.

773 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:52:20pm

re: #760 FurryOldGuyJeans

The majority of voters got snookered by a media blitz so openly partisan that was staggering in its scope.

We tried to warn them. But did they listen? Noooooooooo.

774 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:52:21pm

Wait Lizardim -

John Batchelor is NOW discussing my cousin Gilad, IDF. HAMAS wants more folks released. OK HAMAS - Keep Devaluing you and yours. Brave Islamic Fighters would settle for as Bunkie Knudsen's father once said - "Vun for Vun."
Apparently the last Brave Islamic Fighters date back to the days of the Life of the Islamic Prophet Muhammed. Since then it has been Taquiyah and whining, as they accuse Females of doing. Truth is, their worst dream is a FEMALE, ETHIOPIAN, JEWISH, Israeli Border Guard - Carrying an UZI - with Permission to Fire. Admit it, Oh Muslims - You Are DEATHLY AFRAID of Women, Blacks and Jews - especially those with the power to terminate you, on the spot. Your IMAMS taught HOW SUPERIOR you are. You LOSE every REAL WAR you get involved in. Your Gulf/Saudi Patent Office has probably processed about 20-30 patents that are not foreign patents being affirmed since its inception in the middle 1990's when the Office was founded. You all have "Sharia Compliant" financing. Joke is ON YOU. You do not pay "Interest" - You Pay "Rent" - and payback is under "the rule of the 78's" - You Owe - ALL OF THE PAYMENTS - to pay off a contract. Such financing would be ILLEGAL in most US States - as being a form of USURY.
Be happy in your world, if only all'y'all would be content with staying in your own "SandBox" and NOT bothering ours.

-S-

775 NelsFree  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:52:28pm

re: #478 Irish Rose

Good FREAKING grief.

Anyone have the video for this?


I went to Youtube.com where there were several listings. All played with no sound, only a still image, and comments disabled.
Heh.

776 snowcrash  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:52:45pm

When will Obama face a White House Press corps with questioners like the rude David Gregory or persistent Jake Tapper? Can Obama handle hostile questions and relentless follow ups? I don't think so and I suspect neither do his handlers.

777 outsidephilly  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:52:52pm

re: #176 right_wing2

"Suppose President Obama was on drugs.
Suppose President Obama is a moron.
But I repeat myself"


. . . , words that need repeating!

778 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:52:57pm

re: #764 SummerSong

I agree about the just getting warmed up. I'm also swing trading. Made some, waiting on others. Good luck to you.

Good luck to you as well. Just because the economy is crumbling around us doesn't mean we can't profit from it. I'm not saying this to be a douchebag and revel in the fact that 401K's are getting slaughtered but I say it because even in the midst of troubling times, you can still position yourself well to make a profit.

779 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:53:01pm

re: #772 keeping it simple

That does it. The first downding I've given since I became a lizard which wasn't that long ago but I vowed when I started I wouldn't downding unless I read something that made me angry. This did.

It is an act.

He is a plant.

Gaze away.

780 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:53:04pm

re: #759 rawmuse

I watched "Idiocracy" the other night.
I did not know whether to laugh or cry.
The future is now.

Shut up, dude, that show with the guy who gets hit in the groin is on.

781 FrogMarch  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:53:09pm

re: #769 Sosigado

Remember, liberals are extremely shallow. Perception is everything. As Rush calls it, symbolism over substance.


&
Good intentions over real positive outcomes.

782 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:53:19pm
783 dekalb  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:53:35pm

is it really a surprise that BHO is laughing while wealth disappears at a rate never seen before? He is, after all, helping with the exhortation of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright, to damn a country.

784 axegrinder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:54:04pm

re: #726 taxfreekiller

Global warming and CO2 just caused another huge snow storm out west.

The ground froze 50 inches deep up in the Red River valley area, then all the snow on top of that, now more rain on the snow and ice in the ground and its all going to come down stream at the same time.

CO2 is some bad stuff, stop breathing now you fools.

Sweet. Lets go snow machining on the lake. Woo Hoo!

785 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:54:04pm

re: #754 dekalb

Is there a movement to encourage BHO to resign? Like those tea party gatherings? This guy really is an empty suit.

I doubt it but there was hope for me this weekend. I went out to dinner with my Obama voting family and they began criticizing the Obama administration.
I looked at my cousin mouthed the words "zero leadership" and he just looked at me when normally he would have said something in defense of Obama. He knows that I voted for McCain. I am surprised that they are opening their eyes.

786 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:54:07pm

re: #691 MandyManners

In elementary school you'd be dangling on a hook by the band of your underwear after we'd given you an atomic wedgie. You and that uber-fuck, Mr. Sandman.

Actually, I was a bit of a hoodlum in high school, but the Navy cured me of that in a hurry.

787 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:54:30pm

re: #773 Catttt

We tried to warn them. But did they listen? Noooooooooo.

I keep asking people, "Weren't you listening?" So far, I haven't gotten an answer.

788 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:54:42pm

re: #779 karmic_inquisitor

It is an act.

He is a plant.

Gaze away.

Yup. You notice far fewer of us are talking about the Obama gaffe since Avanti got here? We're talking about him. Mission accomplished.

789 SteveC  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:54:49pm

I'm late to the thread, but this was amazing. CBS planned this for right after the day's dose of March Madness so that viewership would be as high as possible. Everybody was watching, friends and foes.

CBS just lucked into the TV moment of the year. Hopefully the RNC whizkids were watching this.

790 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:54:52pm

re: #782 Iron Fist

Rahm was at a some dinner, when he stood up and read a list of names of people who had wronged the clinton's and started stabbing the table and yelling dead after each name was read

791 Lincolntf  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:54:54pm

re: #755 Bloodnok

I think CHANGE is exactly what the country needs. RIGHT NOW.

A change from the bumbling, criminal-appointing, speech-challenged ignoramus to someone who has actually held a non-public funded job for at least one day in his life.

792 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:54:57pm

re: #785 Afrocity

That's wonderful news!

793 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:55:17pm

re: #759 rawmuse

I watched "Idiocracy" the other night.
I did not know whether to laugh or cry.
The future is now.

I love that movie. I bet Obama is using Gatorade on the White House lawn right NOW.

794 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:55:34pm

re: #788 Bloodnok

Yup. You notice far fewer of us are talking about the Obama gaffe since Avanti got here? We're talking about him. Mission accomplished.

Precisely.

And as for his entrance ...

I question the timing

795 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:55:35pm

re: #789 SteveC

We have whizkids?

796 lawhawk  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:55:48pm

re: #729 avanti

The majority of the voters picked change, even with the risks involved. The thing that the right has to realize is many of the things BHO has done and will do, will piss you off, but win him support with the left and middle.
Of course, if he fails, his support will drop even if they still "like" him.

That's just it; the things he's doing right now with the economy ARE losing him support over everyone - left, right, and center. They're not happy. You're seeing Democrats in Congress blaming the Administration for the AIG mess. The Administration is blaming Congress. I blame both - for lack of reading comprehension and the time to read the damned legislation they wrote in back room deals to make it happen.

People may still give him the benefit of doubt on the center and left because they're running out of options. What else are they supposed to do just weeks into Obama's Administration? That's just not going to last especially if Geithner can't put together a coherent plan despite months working on the problem. That's no one's fault except Obama and Geithner (Obama's choice). Dumping Geithner now wont fix things either, since there's no one else in the pipeline to consider (Obama having enough trouble finding people to staff the rest of Treasury).

797 ladycatnip  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:56:10pm

#776 snowcrash

When will Obama face a White House Press corps with questioners like the rude David Gregory or persistent Jake Tapper? Can Obama handle hostile questions and relentless follow ups? I don't think so and I suspect neither do his handlers.

He does what typical narcissists do - he gets angry and uses intimidation. I can't remember the occasion, but it wasn't long ago a reporter was in hot water because he dared question the O about an unpopular policy or decision.

798 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:56:16pm

re: #675 lawhawk

Then again, the economic policy that they're proposing - limiting executive compensation at all companies (and that's a subject that was broached this weekend) would hit ALL companies, including those multinational corporations that include the likes of GE (owner of NBC and its ilk), ThomsonReuters, AOLTimeWarner, etc.

The CEOs and bigwigs may be starting to wonder just what the heck they got us in to with this guy. I'd say it's a remote possibility, but when you get CEOs and major executives wondering if their own relatively safe jobs are about to get hit with massive tax hikes (you know, the kind that they were busy claiming should hit the rich - THEM), they're getting a dose of reality.

Lawhawk -

Perhaps, as in days gone by - the suspension - Hopefully Temporarily - of The Republic.

-S-

799 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:56:20pm

re: #795 Sharmuta

We have whizkids?

They whiz.... we get wet......

800 BLBfootballs  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:56:22pm

This is just weird.

801 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:56:26pm

re: #788 Bloodnok

Yup. You notice far fewer of us are talking about the Obama gaffe since Avanti got here? We're talking about him. Mission accomplished.

There's another one who likes to pull the same routine.

802 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:56:29pm

re: #786 avanti

Actually, I was a bit of a hoodlum in high school, but the Navy cured me of that in a hurry.

My Dad was in the Navy. Said he saw guys doing disgusting things to each other in the shower. That what cured you?

803 BigJohn  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:56:46pm

While the ONE is just sitting around chuckling, could he get on with turning the water into wine? I think we are gonna need it.

804 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:57:10pm

re: #761 Sharmuta

I started this new movement at #40.

what?...

805 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:57:15pm

re: #752 Afrocity

Evening Lizards

I just read about the Kroft interview on Drudge. I am glad to see LGF covering it. Does anyone know when it airs? Or do I have to search You Tube?

I believe it will be on 60 Minutes tonight, but considering how even the interviewer had a WTF moment with all the laughing O was doing I won't hold my breath for it to air.

Evening, beautiful lady. :)

{Afrocity}

806 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:57:17pm

re: #652 HelloDare

Obama Action Figure

That's just creepy.

I like the George W. Bush action figure.

807 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:57:38pm

re: #795 Sharmuta

We have whizkids?

If I recall correctly the original "whiz kids" turned out to be grossly incompetent.

808 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:58:17pm

re: #785 Afrocity

I doubt it but there was hope for me this weekend. I went out to dinner with my Obama voting family and they began criticizing the Obama administration.
I looked at my cousin mouthed the words "zero leadership" and he just looked at me when normally he would have said something in defense of Obama. He knows that I voted for McCain. I am surprised that they are opening their eyes.

Well, damn. That is some excellent news, thanks for sharing. :)

809 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:58:51pm
810 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:58:58pm

people who voted for obama and are surprised by what he is doing didn't pay attention to his campaign. if you paid attention to his campaign and voted for him anyway....well i guess you didn't like your country very much.

811 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:58:58pm

Avanti is like a simulated construct software program that is set to enter a thread, use keywords to spout doggerel, and derail that puppy. You can't argue with a construct - well, you can, but it just pops out another bit of talking points from its reservoir. Nothing sticks - nothing new is added. Gaze.

812 powerplay  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:59:05pm

Can somebody explain to me why Obama WANTS to be on television? Is he painting himself into a corner? What happens when he makes a fool of himself with even the most sycophantic talk show hosts? (Jay Leno was bad enough).....then WHERE will he go? Obama only talks to lapdog press outlets....but what happens when there are no more lapdogs?

Will he wind up only talking to the Huffington Post by the end of his first term?

813 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:59:18pm

re: #798 Dr. Shalit

Lawhawk -

Perhaps, as in days gone by - the suspension - Hopefully Temporarily - of The Republic.

-S-

No.

Just, no.

814 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:59:26pm

re: #806 Alouette

That's just creepy.

I like the George W. Bush action figure.

The GWB one looks pretty cool... the price is "TBA".. did it ever come out?

815 Daryl Herbert  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:59:30pm

Get ready to learn everything there is to know about Steve Kroft.

816 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:59:53pm

re: #811 Catttt

Avanti is like a simulated construct software program that is set to enter a thread, use keywords to spout doggerel, and derail that puppy. You can't argue with a construct - well, you can, but it just pops out another bit of talking points from its reservoir. Nothing sticks - nothing new is added. Gaze.

LMAO!

817 Racer X  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 6:59:57pm

Gaze mode - engaged!

(Racer X said in his best Captain Picard voice)

818 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:00:00pm

re: #807 The Other Les

If I recall correctly the original "whiz kids" turned out to be grossly incompetent.

Bob McNamara was one. We have him to thank for Viet Nam.

819 Meremortal  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:00:05pm

re: #691 MandyManners

I love you and your consistency, Mandy.

d;^)>

820 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:00:16pm

re: #812 powerplay

Can somebody explain to me why Obama WANTS to be on television? Is he painting himself into a corner? What happens when he makes a fool of himself with even the most sycophantic talk show hosts? (Jay Leno was bad enough).....then WHERE will he go? Obama only talks to lapdog press outlets....but what happens when there are no more lapdogs?

Will he wind up only talking to the Huffington Post by the end of his first term?

He wants to be on television, because it's all he knows how to do- campaign.

821 David Simon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:00:34pm

re: #729 avanti

The majority of the voters picked change

What exactly has "changed?"

822 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:00:36pm

re: #791 Lincolntf

I think CHANGE is exactly what the country needs. RIGHT NOW.

A change from the bumbling, criminal-appointing, speech-challenged ignoramus to someone who has actually held a non-public funded job for at least one day in his life.

Lincolntf -

Assuming the normal course of events - for the next 4 years - Just Keep The Change - And Bury it in Your Back yard.

-S-

823 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:00:41pm

re: #752 Afrocity

Transcipt is linked above. Here's a tidbit:

Making sure that al Qaeda cannot attack the U.S. homeland and U.S. interests and our allies. That's our number one priority. And in service of that priority there may be a whole host of things that we need to do. We may need to build up-- economic capacity in Afghanistan. We may need to-- improve our diplomatic efforts in Pakistan.

Oops! Reality rears its ugly head. Looks like the dreaded "nation building" is in the best interests of America. Who knew?

824 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:00:56pm

re: #812 powerplay

Can somebody explain to me why Obama WANTS to be on television? Is he painting himself into a corner? What happens when he makes a fool of himself with even the most sycophantic talk show hosts? (Jay Leno was bad enough).....then WHERE will he go? Obama only talks to lapdog press outlets....but what happens when there are no more lapdogs?

Will he wind up only talking to the Huffington Post by the end of his first term?

Stupid is as stupid does, sir.

/Forrest Gump

825 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:00:57pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

This man needs to resign.

When you start thinking President Biden would be worlds better, you know there is a deep problem with the President.

When I start realizing that my FedEx delivery guy would be better - - - - BIG problem.

826 stevieray  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:01:03pm

re: #820 Sharmuta

He wants to be on television, because it's all he knows how to do- campaign.

... and he thinks he can charm his way through anything.

827 path  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:01:29pm

re: #565 Ojoe


Beautiful!

828 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:01:49pm

re: #807 The Other Les

If I recall correctly the original "whiz kids" turned out to be grossly incompetent.

So was the "Brain Trust," which neither had brains, nor could you trust them.

829 formercorpsman  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:02:03pm

re: #785 Afrocity

Do you think the bloom is coming off the rose?

Obviously, there were dynamics involved with this election we never encountered before in this country. This compounded the hype, and in my opinion, never let more valid arguments be made concerning Obama's qualifications.

Would you say this might be something that is having to be faced up to now by those who voted for him?

830 keeping it simple  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:02:06pm

re: #779 karmic_inquisitor

It is an act.

He is a plant.

Gaze away.

Thanks. I'm still learning. I'll get up to speed soon.

831 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:02:17pm

re: #729 avanti


The majority of the voters picked change, even with the risks involvedsomeone they knew nothing about because the MSM refused to do in depth reporting on "Zero". The thing that the right has to realize is many of the things BHO has done and will do, will piss you off, but win him support with the left and middle because they are in total DENIAL!
Of course, if he fails, his support will drop even if they still "like" him he is failing.

832 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:02:18pm

Watching Obama speak. I see a saboteur in a suit. Laughing.
13:37 at the link:
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

833 tradewind  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:02:24pm

I'm totally holding in check all those pent-up ' told you's '... because there's no satisfaction in being right, this time. It's just worrisome.
Nothing is making sense... CBS pounds on a democrat president, while Hamas praises him.....

834 Truck Monkey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:02:59pm

re: #706 lawhawk

Hmmm... I can recall journalists calling him Mr. Bush instead of President.

I can recall Helen Thomas' accusatory and derogatory statements every time she "asked" President Bush or his staffers a question.

She's been mean to all the Republican Presidents, going back to Abraham Lincoln.

835 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:03:17pm

re: #788 Bloodnok

Yup. You notice far fewer of us are talking about the Obama gaffe since Avanti got here? We're talking about him. Mission accomplished.

Good point, you need to direct your energies elsewhere. I'll grab a few beers and just lurk.

836 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:03:30pm

re: #821 David Simon

What exactly has "changed?"

The economy has gone from bad to worse, our level of safety from terrorism has gone WAY up, and the world is laughing at us while they hate us instead of just hating us.

837 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:03:41pm

10:03 PM is so much later than it used to be.

838 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:03:44pm

re: #814 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The GWB one looks pretty cool... the price is "TBA".. did it ever come out?

Yes. It's $29.95 most places. You can get it online.

839 SteveC  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:03:49pm

re: #795 Sharmuta

We have whizkids?

I'm being generous! It's Sunday!

840 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:03:49pm

re: #629 Mountain Mary

Did anyone notice Ears ears? They were bright, iridescent flappingly red: see Psych 101. "flaming red ears are a sign of lying or ...lying"

"The ears are off limits."
....FCBBHO

841 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:03:58pm

re: #833 tradewind

I'm totally holding in check all those pent-up ' told you's '... because there's no satisfaction in being right, this time. It's just worrisome.
Nothing is making sense... CBS pounds on a democrat president, while Hamas praises him.....

They didn't pound on him. One question.....

842 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:04:15pm

re: #811 Catttt

Avanti is like a simulated construct software program that is set to enter a thread, use keywords to spout doggerel, and derail that puppy. You can't argue with a construct - well, you can, but it just pops out another bit of talking points from its reservoir. Nothing sticks - nothing new is added. Gaze.

Alan Turing was one of the greats of early computer science. He created a "test" for what would constitute an intelligent machine. He said that if you could have a person in a room with a terminal and that person could have a conversation via the keyboard with what that person thought was another person, but was in fact a machine, that you'd have an intelligent machine.

That is the "Turing Test"

Avanti doesn't pass the Turing Test - no real person can be either that shameless or that stupid.

843 tradewind  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:04:18pm

re: #812 powerplay

You can just hear the Black Press Association silently loving this after the' ignore ya'll ' treatment they have received from BHO.

844 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:04:18pm

re: #808 FurryOldGuyJeans

Well, damn. That is some excellent news, thanks for sharing. :)

Well for every victory there is a disappointment. Today I had a business brunch w/ client from San Francisco. I don't know why out of towners always have to comment about Obama. I guess it is because it is Chicago. Anyway he brought up education and Bill Ayers. He said "it is ashamed the way he was demonized...Do you think others in Chicago think he is a danger?"

I kept silent, my colleges were there and they know how I feel about the issue. It was an awkward moment. I changed the topic to California and asked how he felt about the gubernatorial election and he said "no way a conservative will win CA" I brought up the Ebay CEO, he said no way.
I started gazing off. The convo was getting to liberal for me. I hate having to shut up but I would get reprimanded if I told people what I really think.

845 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:04:45pm

re: #838 Catttt

Yes. It's $29.95 most places. You can get it online.

Thanks... looking now...

846 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:05:13pm

re: #815 Daryl Herbert

Get ready to learn everything there is to know about Steve Kroft.

Isn't he the guy that did all those kids puppet shows back in the 60's and 70's? H.R. Puffenstuff? Land of the Lost?

Oh, that was Sid and Marty Kroft. Never mind.

847 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:05:13pm

re: #811 Catttt

Avanti is like a simulated construct software program that is set to enter a thread, use keywords to spout doggerel, and derail that puppy. You can't argue with a construct - well, you can, but it just pops out another bit of talking points from its reservoir. Nothing sticks - nothing new is added. Gaze.

Sounds like Spyware.

848 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:05:28pm

re: #835 avanti

Good point, you need to direct your energies elsewhere. I'll grab a few beers and just lurk.

Self pity disguised as positive action - yet another Obama-ism.

849 tradewind  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:05:47pm

re: #841 kansas

Anything but drooling adulation is a pounding after the treatment he received during the campaign, IMO.

850 NY Nana  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:05:57pm

re: #693 KitchenQueen

Alas, Mark Steyn is Canadian-born....lucky Canada!

851 powerplay  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:06:05pm

re: #833 tradewind

I'm totally holding in check all those pent-up ' told you's '... because there's no satisfaction in being right, this time. It's just worrisome.
Nothing is making sense... CBS pounds on a democrat president, while Hamas praises him.....

no satisfaction in being right

brother.....that is the ONLY satisfaction we will get from the 'zero'

852 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:06:06pm

re: #835 avanti

I'll grab a few beers and just lurk.

Smartest damned thing you've said yet in this thread.

853 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:06:08pm

re: #844 Afrocity


liberals speak as if the whole world is in agreement with them, and when you disagree its like someone farted.

854 Sosigado  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:06:35pm

re: #786 avanti

Actually, I was a bit of a hoodlum in high school, but the Navy cured me of that in a hurry.

It would appear that's the only thing the Navy cured you of.

855 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:06:35pm
856 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:06:49pm

re: #674 taxfreekiller

So, if McCain delivers up the Senate on Amnesty and switches party just after he makes the Commie Democrat the long term winners, what then?

He'll lose the Republican nomination for Senator from Arizona in 2010.

857 The Other Les  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:07:14pm

re: #812 powerplay

Can somebody explain to me why Obama WANTS to be on television? Is he painting himself into a corner? What happens when he makes a fool of himself with even the most sycophantic talk show hosts? (Jay Leno was bad enough).....then WHERE will he go? Obama only talks to lapdog press outlets....but what happens when there are no more lapdogs?

Will he wind up only talking to the Huffington Post by the end of his first term?

(Cut and pasted from by blog)

We need to face the fact that the present day Left, like the unschooled barbarians who plagued civilization before them, are essentially parasites. If the Huns or the Mongols were to take "no" for an answer to their demands for food and other material goods they would die very quickly. Control of the productive population is essential for their survival and well being. Compulsion, taking things and persons by force, is inherently necessary to the parasite manner of existence. Those who resisted had to be killed as an object lesson for others.

The Left, our present-day literate post-Marxist barbarians, not only need material support they also need spiritual support as well. They need to feel that their victims are not only submitting to them today but will do so tomorrow as well.

Barbarian chieftains and tribal witch-doctors demanded degrading and often dangerous acts of worship from their subjects, up to and including human sacrifice, in order to assure themselves that they would still have a roof (or a tent) over their heads and food to eat the next day. Those who refused to obey were worked over by the goon squad or simply killed.

In the classrooms, editorial offices, and coffee shops of the Left the demand is for unquestioned agreement without regard to the actual facts of reality. The self-styled intellectuals of the Left are the first to demand “speech codes” and other forms of censorship lest they be identified as frauds and poseurs and subsequently bounced out of their comfortable ivory towers, no longer insulated from a real world that demands real thought and real labor.

The Left, being dependent upon others for their sustenance, must stand in opposition to the society of rational consent and openly support systems of compulsion, be it various species of Socialism or the witch-doctor rule of Islam, because to do otherwise is to condemn themselves to death.

858 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:07:20pm

re: #835 avanti

Man, you are such a fucking self-pity whore.

859 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:07:23pm

re: #835 avanti

Good point, you need to direct your energies elsewhere. I'll grab a few beers and just lurk.

If you take the time to look at the title of this thread it's called "Obama Laughs Too Much, Kroft Asks: 'Are You Punch-Drunk?" Are you suggesting that we should not direct our "energies" on a topic posted by Charles in Little Green Footballs? The topic is inherent in its title.

860 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:07:34pm

re: #853 pegcity

liberals speak as if the whole world is in agreement with them, and when you disagree its like someone farted.

They never think that anyone could disagree with them, and if they do disagree with them, then it must be because you're a bad person.

Liberal tolerance in a nutshell.

861 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:07:34pm

re: #849 tradewind

Anything but drooling adulation is a pounding after the treatment he received during the campaign, IMO.

Good point. Good thing Kroft didn't ask him about his medical records or college transcripts.

862 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:07:52pm

re: #845 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Thanks... looking now...

It's just over 25 bucks on Amazon. Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime.

863 Lincolntf  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:08:26pm

I was looking at a Boston Herald article earlier in the day. It featured a Special Olympics bowler who had won a couple of medals. Anyway, the link on the site (I can't find it at the moment) led to the S.O. site.
Obama's bowling score would have left him so far behind the pack (by average) that he would have had NO HOPE of ever making the S.O. team.
I thought that was hilarious.
Hey Barry, the "Special" kids are way better than you. Suck it, hood-rat.

864 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:08:32pm

re: #862 Catttt

It's just over 25 bucks on Amazon. Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime.

Damn... is there anything Amazon doesn't sell? I love those guys!

865 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:08:52pm

re: #842 karmic_inquisitor

Alan Turing was one of the greats of early computer science. He created a "test" for what would constitute an intelligent machine. He said that if you could have a person in a room with a terminal and that person could have a conversation via the keyboard with what that person thought was another person, but was in fact a machine, that you'd have an intelligent machine.

That is the "Turing Test"

Avanti doesn't pass the Turing Test - no real person can be either that shameless or that stupid.

Sub-Turinian intelligence?

866 Perplexed  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:09:01pm

re: #861 kansas

Good point. Good thing Kroft didn't ask him about his medical records or college transcripts.

Rahm was waiting in the wings ready to pounce on any individual asking a question of that nature.

867 Edouard  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:09:25pm

re: #729 avanti

The majority of the voters picked change, even with the risks involved. The thing that the right has to realize is many of the things BHO has done and will do, will piss you off, but win him support with the left and middle.
Of course, if he fails, his support will drop even if they still "like" him.

Your support of the hypothetical competence of the president is really faltering, based on evidence of this faint praise.

If this is a basketball game, Reality just grabbed the rebound, is clutching the ball and swinging some heavy elbows. Obama failed to grab the ball and just got popped with a left and a right, and is now flailing as he proceeds to topple backwards to the ground, shortly to land on his ass.

868 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:09:37pm

re: #866 Perplexed

literally pounce. that guy is one scary looking SOB

869 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:09:39pm
870 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:09:39pm

re: #866 Perplexed

Rahm was waiting in the wings ready to pounce on any individual asking a question of that nature.

Rahm, as far as I am concerned, is an despicable little shit.

871 Lincolntf  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:09:53pm

re: #867 Edouard

Nice.

872 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:09:54pm

re: #844 Afrocity

Hearing anything other than exactly what they spew is so disconcerting, and so mean of you. Too bad free speech is only for libtards.

873 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:10:24pm

re: #812 powerplay

Can somebody explain to me why Obama WANTS to be on television?

Image: michelle-obama%20speaking.jpg

874 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:10:33pm

re: #864 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Damn... is there anything Amazon doesn't sell? I love those guys!

Me too. That's why they're number one. :D Just being in the top 10 is cool, but they have number one in the pocket.

875 ErnieG  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:11:06pm

re: #855 buzzsawmonkey

"Laughing! Laughing even as an ignorant fighter laughs who has never lost a battle..."

--Carl Sandburg, "Chicago"

O villain, villain, smiling, damned villain!
My tables,--meet it is I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain
-- Hamlet, Act 1 Scene V

876 Lincolntf  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:11:24pm

re: #873 kansas

Cameras love him.
It's only the people who can't stand him.

877 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:12:09pm

re: #874 Catttt

Well, the $25 one was a cheap knock off... the good one (Elite Aviator Series, or something like that) is a bit more, not available new, but I snagged up a "like new" used one for $55.

878 path  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:12:15pm

re: #716 A Kiwi Infidel

That is beautiful. where is it?

879 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:12:22pm

re: #870 Honorary Yooper

Rahm, as far as I am concerned, is an despicable little shit.

Chiefs of Staff are usually a very close reflection of the boss they work for.

880 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:12:25pm

re: #829 formercorpsman

Do you think the bloom is coming off the rose?

Obviously, there were dynamics involved with this election we never encountered before in this country. This compounded the hype, and in my opinion, never let more valid arguments be made concerning Obama's qualifications.

Would you say this might be something that is having to be faced up to now by those who voted for him?

It was tough with my family. My brother was in town from overseas and I have a small niece and nephew. After a few glasses of wine, I let down my defenses and said that 1) I felt that it is unfortunate that Obama is considered the first AA president because he is an awful leader and a prime example of affirmative action gone awry. 2)I emphasized that his administration is incompetent and that Obama is in it for the fanfare.

My brother looked defeated and said
"Afrocity, I know. I told the kids it was good that he is president. For their sake. I will not put him down in front of the kids. For now Obama is all we have"

I just looked away and we changed the subject to Michelle's awful hair. We all agreed on that.

881 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:12:54pm

re: #726 taxfreekiller

Global warming and CO2 just caused another huge snow storm out west.

The ground froze 50 inches deep up in the Red River valley area, then all the snow on top of that, now more rain on the snow and ice in the ground and its all going to come down stream at the same time.

CO2 is some bad stuff, stop breathing now you fools.

It's gotten about 10-15 degrees cooler here in Phoenix than it was yesterday, high winds and blowing dust cancelled the V-22 Osprey demo and the Thunderbirds show at Luke Air Force base airshow today.

Flagstaff is supposed to have snow tonight and early tomorrow morning.

Al Gore is on ManBearPig alert.

882 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:13:41pm

re: #821 David Simon

So I guess this means you feel as good, now, as you did with George W. Bush?

883 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:13:56pm

re: #881 Colonel Panik

You mean some sort of BearPigMan?

884 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:14:09pm

re: #855 buzzsawmonkey

"Laughing! Laughing even as an ignorant fighter laughs who has never lost a battle..."

--Carl Sandburg, "Chicago"

In that poem Carl Sandburg called Chicago "Hog-butcher to the world". Obama is butchering America as thoroughly as the Union Stock Yards of Chicago would butcher a hog.

885 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:14:30pm

re: #877 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Well, the $25 one was a cheap knock off... the good one (Elite Aviator Series, or something like that) is a bit more, not available new, but I snagged up a "like new" used one for $55.

Yeah - I noticed that down in the "also" offerings. Try ebay. I'll bet you can get a deal there.

886 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:14:57pm

re: #880 Afrocity

i just with the first African American president had been a conservative.

someone who people could actually look up to.

Obama is no role model for African American youth.

887 SteveC  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:15:04pm

Anyone hazard a guess on what Obama's statements are going to do to the market?

Personally, I got the feelin' that this is gonna hurt!

888 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:15:13pm
889 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:15:28pm

re: #885 Catttt

Yeah - I noticed that down in the "also" offerings. Try ebay. I'll bet you can get a deal there.

Eh... it's only money.

In six months it will be worthless anyway.

890 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:15:33pm

re: #876 Lincolntf
I was answering why he wants to be on TV with this link.
Image: michelle-obama%20speaking.jpg

Lets see TV or this
Image: michelle-obama%20speaking.jpg

891 Rakkasan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:15:47pm

At this time, passengers must return to their seats, place their trays in the upright position, and fasten their seatbelts. Please ignore the smoke coming from the cockpit, and for God's sake, quit staring at the flaming engines.

892 kansas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:16:41pm

re: #891 Rakkasan

At this time, passengers must return to their seats, place their trays in the upright position, and fasten their seatbelts. Please ignore the smoke coming from the cockpit, and for God's sake, quit staring at the flaming engines.

And no, I am not going to show you my pilot's license.

893 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:16:49pm

re: #886 pegcity

i just with the first African American president had been a conservative.

someone who people could actually look up to.

Obama is no role model for African American youth.

Oh, he's a role model alright. Just not a good one.

Wasn't it supposed to be "judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin"?

Got it backwards.

894 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:17:15pm

re: #880 Afrocity

Sadly it is that very lack of speaking out that is going to give ammunition to the racists and white supremacists to make even a competent black person harder to elect.

895 Wasta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:17:57pm
If you had said to us a year ago that— the least of my problems would be Iraq, which is still a pretty serious problem...

The serious problem is your Administration, Mr. President.

896 Lincolntf  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:18:54pm

re: #890 kansas

I don't get it, but I was late to the thread so I might have missed some context.

897 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:19:27pm

re: #894 FurryOldGuyJeans

Sadly it is that very lack of speaking out that is going to give ammunition to the racists and white supremacists to make even a competent black person harder to elect.

I would like to think that they are marginalized enough not to be a factor. But recent neo-nazi / anti-jihadi stuff makes me wonder.

898 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:19:37pm

re: #886 pegcity

i just with the first African American president had been a conservative.

someone who people could actually look up to.

Obama is no role model for African American youth.

I agree but it was my much older brother. If the kids were mine, I am not sure I would respect Obama any more or less in front of them

899 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:20:26pm

re: #880 Afrocity

It was tough with my family. My brother was in town from overseas and I have a small niece and nephew. After a few glasses of wine, I let down my defenses and said that 1) I felt that it is unfortunate that Obama is considered the first AA president because he is an awful leader and a prime example of affirmative action gone awry. 2)I emphasized that his administration is incompetent and that Obama is in it for the fanfare.

My brother looked defeated and said
"Afrocity, I know. I told the kids it was good that he is president. For their sake. I will not put him down in front of the kids. For now Obama is all we have"

I just looked away and we changed the subject to Michelle's awful hair. We all agreed on that.

Well put.

The one bright spot I saw in the election - the one good thing I could say - was embodied in an older AA guy in the crowd in Chicago, tears running down his face. That good feeling - I don't know how to describe it - was great. BUT - what you said. That's the bad part. The bigger you are, the harder you fall, and if you are up there and not up to the job, it is a long way down. And four years is a long time - just ask Jimmy Carter.

900 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:20:43pm

re: #891 Rakkasan

At this time, passengers must return to their seats, place their trays in the upright position, and fasten their seatbelts. Please ignore the smoke coming from the cockpit, and for God's sake, quit staring at the flaming engines.

The movie selection for this flight will be Titanic

901 JohnAdams  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:20:51pm

My bet is Obama is up to about a pack and a half a day. This is so far from the job he thought he was getting. In fact, I don't think he realized it was a job.

Worse thing is, half the people who voted for him are more concerned with "American Idol", and the real damage he's doing won't start showing up for two more years.

902 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:22:10pm

He's laughing cause he has everything going just the way he and Ayers and that crowd want. Economy in the shitter, Red Brigades on the march knocking door to door, the sheeple wanting more and more gov't control, demonizing capitalism and capitalists.

903 Moonbat Serenade  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:22:32pm

re: #900 Afrocity

The movie selection for this flight will be Titanic

At least the Titanic got a band. That's more than the good old USA is getting.

904 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:22:58pm

re: #889 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Eh... it's only money.

In six months it will be worthless anyway.

Hey, I just spent 600 bucks for eye glasses, and that's after a $300 insurance discount. I had to get super thin, to make my eyes look less like little peas, scratch guard, and that thing where they go dark in the sun. And Ralph Lauren frames.

And I will be eating Ramen all week.

905 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:23:19pm

re: #900 Afrocity

The movie selection for this flight will be Titanic

I'd prefer this Titanic. At least that was sufficiently cheesy to be a tasty nosh.

906 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:23:34pm

re: #886 pegcity

Wanting to not criticize him "for the sake of the kids" is preposterous. IOW -- a fuck-up who happens to be black cannot be criticized -- the truth be told -- because he is black?

907 SteveC  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:07pm

re: #903 Moonbat Serenade

At least the Titanic got a band. That's more than the good old USA is getting.

We're not even getting a "thank you" note on the pillow. Come to think of it, we're not even getting a bad. We're getting bent over the hood of a GM.

908 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:23pm

re: #893 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Oh, he's a role model alright. Just not a good one.

Wasn't it supposed to be "judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin"?

Got it backwards.

Yep.

909 Rakkasan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:29pm

"All right, folks. Show's over, nothing to see here...OH MY GOD! A horrible plane crash! Get a load of this flaming wreckage!"

--Chief Wiggum

910 David Simon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:30pm

re: #882 WindHorse

So I guess this means you feel as good, now, as you did with George W. Bush?

Huh?

911 axegrinder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:58pm

Has anyone mentioned Rahm Israel Emanuel in this entire thread? Seems to me he's the real puppet master here. Obama seems to have no idea what he is doing. Any thoughts about this? Honest, I'm not just trying to blame the Jew.

912 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:25:19pm

re: #905 FurryOldGuyJeans

I'd prefer this Titanic. At least that was sufficiently cheesy to be a tasty nosh.

I put off watching it for a long time, thinking it would be cheesy. It kind of was, but of course, I cried.

913 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:26:06pm

You need someone to tell you what has changed since the election?

914 Perplexed  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:26:21pm

re: #911 axegrinder

Yes. Go up around 150 comments.

915 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:26:38pm

re: #911 axegrinder

Has anyone mentioned Rahm Israel Emanuel in this entire thread? Seems to me he's the real puppet master here. Obama seems to have no idea what he is doing. Any thoughts about this? Honest, I'm not just trying to blame the Jew.

Well, I seriously don't think there is a decent, experienced hand amongst the lot of them. It's like a fraternity prank.

916 razorbacker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:26:54pm

Where would you go to read about the Black Press award given to Obama on the 20th?

I know that it was going to be covered, but Fayetteville only has one free paper, and it pretty much sticks to covering alt. music, evile Republicans, and uses for second hand bong-water.

917 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:27:16pm

re: #912 Catttt

I put off watching it for a long time, thinking it would be cheesy. It kind of was, but of course, I cried.

I like cheesy movies, if they at least have some decent plotlines and acting going on. Clifton Webb was in no need of craft services, he ate so much of the scenery.

918 Perplexed  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:28:14pm

re: #916 razorbacker

Where would you go to read about the Black Press award given to Obama on the 20th?

I know that it was going to be covered, but Fayetteville only has one free paper, and it pretty much sticks to covering alt. music, evile Republicans, and uses for second hand bong-water.

Press was banned from attending. Probably because of what was said there.

919 nyc redneck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:28:26pm

he is either laughing because he is deranged w/ being in over his head and he is hysterical in the clinical sense or he is laughing because he is fcking thrilled out of his mind w/ the thought of destroying our country.
either way, the joke is on us.

this fcking idiot has no substance or grounding.
he is a dangerous hoax on america.
laughing his ass off,
as we look at him, aghast.

920 axegrinder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:29:57pm

All the talk about letting the experienced bank execs solve the problems they created has be thinking maybe the same thing should apply with the presidency. If Bush caused all this, by all means, lets bring him and his entire administration back to fix it. Sign petition here.

921 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:31:01pm

re: #916 razorbacker

Where would you go to read about the Black Press award given to Obama on the 20th?

I know that it was going to be covered, but Fayetteville only has one free paper, and it pretty much sticks to covering alt. music, evile Republicans, and uses for second hand bong-water.

Nowhere, since the press has been barred from the event.

922 razorbacker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:31:30pm

re: #918 Perplexed

I know that the general market press was barred, but the black community press was there. Are any of them online?

Google-fu fails me, as I can read about black press after the Civil War, and how the black press during Reconstruction supported Republicans, etc, but very little about today's black press.

I can't even find the name of the black-oriented paper that used to be published in Little Rock. I thought that I'd pick up a copy tomorrow, but so far, no joy.

923 axegrinder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:32:05pm

re: #918 Perplexed

Press was banned from attending. Probably because of what was said there.

I heard the Farrakhan crowd was in attendance. I can understand why Obama would want to keep that out of the press. The man rubs shoulders with a pretty despicable group of people.

924 Old Hippie Vet  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:32:22pm

re: #147 mattm

Hell, I would rather have Cruise than 0. Almost anyone could do a better job.

I'm going with Larry The Cable Guy myself.

925 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:32:46pm
926 dkorta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:34:25pm

re: #844 Afrocity

... I don't know why out of towners always have to comment about Obama. I guess it is because it is Chicago. ...

Could be because of those banners of Dear Leader hanging from the lamposts in the city. They're still there, aren't they?

We don't have any out my way.

927 NelsFree  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:36:09pm

re: #786 avanti

Actually, I was a bit of a hoodlum in high school, but the Navy cured me of that in a hurry.


Y'know, Avanti, I asked you some time ago what your rating was. You never did answer. So, what was it?

Sincerely,
NelsFree

928 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:36:16pm

re: #921 FurryOldGuyJeans

Nowhere, since the press has been barred from the event.

That's what I was going to say. It was not covered. Seriously. Why should the press give it space when they are barred?

And the local black press is just that - local. They tend to cover local events and such, and they aren't all dailies. As a result - pretty much no coverage on the event.

929 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:37:58pm

re: #729 avanti

The majority of the voters picked change, even with the risks involved. The thing that the right has to realize is many of the things BHO has done and will do, will piss you off, but win him support with the left and middle.
Of course, if he fails, his support will drop even if they still "like" him.

You are such a fucking little ass-kissing goose-stepper. You can't wait to become one of the elite Civilian Defense Forces so you can tell people what to think and how to act.

I don't have to realize ANY of the shit you shovel, you fucking turd.

930 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:38:16pm

re: #925 Iron Fist

Your story is inspirational. I love my career, the problem is my field is probably 95% liberal. There are times when I have said things and it ended up causing tension and chiding later on. I decided that work is not the place for politics. This is why I remain silent.

931 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:38:35pm

Is it possible to see the 60 Minutes show? Is it available online. or just the transcript?

932 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:39:14pm

re: #926 dkorta

Could be because of those banners of Dear Leader hanging from the lamposts in the city. They're still there, aren't they?

We don't have any out my way.

Oh yes, I just saw them today. I wish they would take them down.

933 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:39:59pm

re: #818 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

"Vet" -

McNamara and the Whizzies got it really right in WW II. Unfortunately, VietNam was another story. The Germans WERE really like US. Don't believe it? - the largest "So-Called" Ethnic Group in the USA is "German-American."
We differed on ideology - AND - as we saw each other - Mano a Mano - saw ourselves. It was easy from 20-30,000 feet up and as airplane to airplane. Up close and personal - not as much. My Dad grew up with a "German-Amerian" kid, named Fred/Ferdie (Horse). Ferdie's family repatriated to "The Reich" During the Depression - Ferdie was killed on the Russian Front. Same goes for the Russians, of which I am- tangentially - one.
The "VIETS"/Nguyens" were NOT US. They had their OWN agenda. Forty years later - they HAVE learned. Too Bad it took so long and about 58,000 US "KIA'S." - Not to Mention Their Casualties - AND - The Boat People.
Much as I prefer NOT to admit it - the Vietnamese War is OVER. We could have WON it and chose NOT TO.
When Saigon fell, the Army of "North Vietnam" captured a bunch of H/P communications stuff. Today, their descendants assemble stuff for H/P, including my Default Printer - an H/P LaserJet P1006 - in the words of Crosby, Stills & Nash - "Who Won?" Ultimately, seems like WE DID.

-S-

934 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:40:15pm

re: #929 FurryOldGuyJeans

{Furry} Be kind to those less fortunate than you.

935 JohnAdams  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:41:14pm

re: #911 axegrinder

Has anyone mentioned Rahm Israel Emanuel in this entire thread? Seems to me he's the real puppet master here. Obama seems to have no idea what he is doing. Any thoughts about this? Honest, I'm not just trying to blame the Jew.

With you there. I see Obama as absolutely lost and out of his depth now that he actually has a job--not to mention the BIGGEST JOB ON THE PLANET. Whomever is handling him is also out of their depth--Rahm Immanuel or whomever. Congress is basically whipping him around like a water weasel. I think George Soros had a huge role in getting him elected, but day to day at this point, I honestly don't think anyone is in charge. Scary.

936 razorbacker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:41:21pm

re: #928 Catttt

That's what I was going to say. It was not covered. Seriously. Why should the press give it space when they are barred?

And the local black press is just that - local. They tend to cover local events and such, and they aren't all dailies. As a result - pretty much no coverage on the event.

I'd be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts (ya know, with the price of doughnuts nowadays saying doesn't mean as much as it used to) that somewhere in the black community press there is a write-up of the event. I mean, it would be a big deal, Obama was honored, and they were there. Black newspeople are just as interested in writing things their audience want to read as white newspeople, surely.

Perhaps even an outline of what was said.

937 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:42:07pm

re: #931 Wishing

Is it possible to see the 60 Minutes show? Is it available online. or just the transcript?


It's here; the relevant exchange is a little after 13:00.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

938 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:42:07pm

re: #916 razorbacker

Where would you go to read about the Black Press award given to Obama on the 20th?

I know that it was going to be covered, but Fayetteville only has one free paper, and it pretty much sticks to covering alt. music, evile Republicans, and uses for second hand bong-water.

That sounds like the free paper in most municipalities. The archetype is New Times, out of Phoenix. They specialize in bashing Sheriff Joe. The company that owns it runs a little press syndicate that produces a lot of the free "alternative weeklies" in other cities. I think "Metro" in Silicon Valley used to be affiliated with them.

939 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:42:33pm

re: #842 karmic_inquisitor

Alan Turing was one of the greats of early computer science. He created a "test" for what would constitute an intelligent machine. He said that if you could have a person in a room with a terminal and that person could have a conversation via the keyboard with what that person thought was another person, but was in fact a machine, that you'd have an intelligent machine.

That is the "Turing Test"

Avanti doesn't pass the Turing Test - no real person can be either that shameless or that stupid.

Have you read Cryptonomicon? If not, do - you'll love it. Trust me.

940 Lincolntf  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:43:08pm

re: #928 Catttt

Never before has a President so blatantly and casually ignored his own campaign promises so quickly.
He promised to go "line-by-line" through spending bills and then mandated that the Stim be passed without time for anyone to read it.
He promised an openness that would be unparallelled and gives us a spokesman who can't speak.
He promised an end to "business as usual" and then buried bonuses for his contributors into his signature legislation.
He promised to preemptively surrender to all of our enemies and he.....oh, he actually did do that one. Never mind.

941 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:43:31pm

re: #937 jaunte

It's here; the relevant exchange is a little after 13:00.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

Thanks jaunte!

942 NelsFree  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:45:20pm

re: #936 razorbacker

I'd be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts (ya know, with the price of doughnuts nowadays saying doesn't mean as much as it used to) that somewhere in the black community press there is a write-up of the event. I mean, it would be a big deal, Obama was honored, and they were there. Black newspeople are just as interested in writing things their audience want to read as white newspeople, surely.

Perhaps even an outline of what was said.

More likely than the video of Obama attending an Islamic dinner a while ago that featured questionable entertainment being made available.

943 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:45:27pm

re: #880 Afrocity

It was tough with my family. My brother was in town from overseas and I have a small niece and nephew. After a few glasses of wine, I let down my defenses and said that 1) I felt that it is unfortunate that Obama is considered the first AA president because he is an awful leader and a prime example of affirmative action gone awry. 2)I emphasized that his administration is incompetent and that Obama is in it for the fanfare.

My brother looked defeated and said
"Afrocity, I know. I told the kids it was good that he is president. For their sake. I will not put him down in front of the kids. For now Obama is all we have"

I just looked away and we changed the subject to Michelle's awful hair. We all agreed on that.

Obama is all we have? What does that mean? Seriously.

944 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:45:43pm

re: #940 Lincolntf

Lincolntf -

Believing in Pres. Obama is about the same as believing in the Easter Bunny.
That is all.

-S-

945 VooDoo  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:46:25pm

OneBigAssMistakeAmerica

946 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:46:26pm

i'm listening to it right now on tv.
Clueless in D.C.

Did anyone ever find out what the LA Times was supposed to have known and kept from us re: BHO?

947 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:46:45pm

re: #936 razorbacker

I'd be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts (ya know, with the price of doughnuts nowadays saying doesn't mean as much as it used to) that somewhere in the black community press there is a write-up of the event. I mean, it would be a big deal, Obama was honored, and they were there. Black newspeople are just as interested in writing things their audience want to read as white newspeople, surely.

Perhaps even an outline of what was said.

I have actually looked. The local paper has nothing online. Even the NNPA site (they are the ones giving the award) has nothing covering the event - they just have an announcement of the event from a week ago. Maybe the weeklies will have something in a few days.

948 onthow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:47:00pm

re: #99 LGoPs

Seems that all this poseur knows how to do is interview and preen for the cameras.
How 'bout actually fucking accomplishing something, especially when the country's economy is going down the toilet?
This shouldn't be a great surprise coming from someone who really has had everything handed to him with little to no effort.
We've handed our country over to a spoiled child........

No, the starry-eyed fools that voted for him did.

949 NelsFree  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:47:59pm

Done, gone. G'nite all.

950 Wm T Sherman  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:48:51pm

Kroft looked skeptical and even somewhat alarmed to me.

951 David Simon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:49:44pm

re: #913 WindHorse

You need someone to tell you what has changed since the election?

The weather? My underwear?

952 Lincolntf  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:50:10pm

re: #947 Catttt

Without getting all "Orwell" on ya', how freakin' bizarre is it that the President has his own private press corps that he speaks to "off the record"?
Pretty effing creepy, if you ask me.

953 alegrias  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:52:39pm

re: #944 Dr. Shalit

Lincolntf -

Believing in Pres. Obama is about the same as believing in the Easter Bunny.
That is all.

-S-

* * * *
Dear Dr. Shalit, I think about your cousin/nephew Gilad and pray for his safe return and that his time in hell won't be as long as that of our US POWs in Vietnam--some of whom languished nearly 9 years.

And may God damn those who kidnapped Gilad Shalit.

954 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:53:53pm

re: #950 Wm T Sherman

Kroft looked skeptical and even somewhat alarmed to me.

Sitting face to face with someone who is acting mentally unstable tends to do that to a person.

955 thatemailname  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:53:54pm

How nice. While our "president" engages in gallows humor, it's the American people who are getting hanged.

956 formercorpsman  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:54:30pm

re: #880 Afrocity

Sorry for not hitting you back earlier, my wife's back demanded my attention.

I think that conversation is going to end up being replicated in many homes over the next couple of years.

Hang in there, you have held on to your intellectual honesty.

957 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:55:37pm

re: #927 NelsFree

Y'know, Avanti, I asked you some time ago what your rating was. You never did answer. So, what was it?

Sincerely,
NelsFree

I answered several times. I retired as a ETC.
(Electronics Technician Chief)

958 thatemailname  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:55:43pm

re: #940 Lincolntf

Never before has a President so blatantly and casually ignored his own campaign promises so quickly.
He promised to go "line-by-line" through spending bills and then mandated that the Stim be passed without time for anyone to read it.
He promised an openness that would be unparallelled and gives us a spokesman who can't speak.
He promised an end to "business as usual" and then buried bonuses for his contributors into his signature legislation.
He promised to preemptively surrender to all of our enemies and he.....oh, he actually did do that one. Never mind.

Anyone who took his campaign "promises" seriously was and is a moron. They were simply things that his campaign staff believed he needed to say in order to get elected. Even Reverend Wright was honest enough to inform us of this fact in his appearance at the National Press Club last year, when he stated that Obama is a politician who says what he has to say.

959 Emerald  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:55:43pm

The MSM finally starts asking questions. A year or so too late. The real question: Are they trying to regain some credibility as it becomes blatantly obvious Obama's incompetent, or are they looking at their vanishing portfolios, not to mention higher taxes, and are trying to save their wallets.

960 razorbacker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:55:52pm

re: #952 Lincolntf

Without getting all "Orwell" on ya', how freakin' bizarre is it that the President has his own private press corps that he speaks to "off the record"?
Pretty effing creepy, if you ask me.

Just because these papers are black oriented and therefore most likely will print admiring articles, I don't think that makes them Obama's own private press corps.

Keep talking like that and you're going to make Chris Matthews cry. He wasn't invited, ya know.

Prolly can still find the tracks of his tears on the main gate.

Not to mention Olbermannnnnn (I forget how many n's go on that. Hope I got enough).

961 Zimriel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:56:07pm

re: #54 Honorary Yooper

Bears repeating. Go back to #40 and ding it up!

You've turned post #40 into The Sharmuta Petition. It's now got 60+ updings.

For me the turning point was Geithner's speech on the environment; this told me that we are dealing with an out-of-control Executive and Congress, whose instinct is to destroy and whose methods are arbitrary and inept. Like 1790 France.

Charles hasn't yet endorsed post #40. It'll be interesting to see the direction of LGF when (and I do think it is "when", not "if") he does ding up a "resign!" post.

As far as Obama's resignation is concerned: I'd prefer if Obama DID resign, for the damage he's doing to race relations alone. But there are alternatives. There's a blog "Your Lying Eyes" which proposed that a cabal of moderate Democrat Congressmen might take over Appropriations, and run the nation from there while Obama settles for being a figurehead.

962 alegrias  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:56:59pm

re: #946 J.D.

i'm listening to it right now on tv.
Clueless in D.C.

Did anyone ever find out what the LA Times was supposed to have known and kept from us re: BHO?

* * * *
Yes, it was transcripts or video of OBama at a party with his good friend and supporter Rashid Khalidi, a Columbia University professor & chair of the Edward Said Islamic studies department. Prof. Khalidi was a former PLO spokesman, and antisemite who hosted Obama and Michelle at his kitchen, and taught them his perspective of Palestinian Liberation theology, which we know thanks to Arafat is Jihad Jihad Jihad.

The comments made at the party were perhaps not politically correct of flattering to Obama so the LA times supressed them.

963 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:57:06pm

re: #943 SummerSong

Obama is all we have? What does that mean? Seriously.

He meant people of color. My brother is 15 years my senior. He grew up during the civil rights era and militant Black man days. I don't agree with him but this is typical of the mindset of many blacks who voted for Obama. Saying Obama is all we have is IMHO pretty sad news for Blacks if he is the standard. It also discounts the multitudes of other respected people of color. IMHO all you ever need is you.

964 David Simon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:58:21pm

re: #929 FurryOldGuyJeans

You are such a fucking little ass-kissing goose-stepper. You can't wait to become one of the elite Civilian Defense Forces so you can tell people what to think and how to act.

I don't have to realize ANY of the shit you shovel, you fucking turd.

lol. If I weren't so tired, I'd compose a similar missive to his butt buddy WindBag.

965 onepistoffyid  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:59:57pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

This man needs to resign.

The Manchurian Candidate is laughing because he sees his goal of "redistributive change" coming ever closer.

966 razorbacker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:01:19pm

re: #961 Zimriel

You've turned post #40 into The Sharmuta Petition. It's now got 60+ updings.

For me the turning point was Geithner's speech on the environment; this told me that we are dealing with an out-of-control Executive and Congress, whose instinct is to destroy and whose methods are arbitrary and inept. Like 1790 France.

Charles hasn't yet endorsed post #40. It'll be interesting to see the direction of LGF when (and I do think it is "when", not "if") he does ding up a "resign!" post.

As far as Obama's resignation is concerned: I'd prefer if Obama DID resign, for the damage he's doing to race relations alone. But there are alternatives. There's a blog "Your Lying Eyes" which proposed that a cabal of moderate Democrat Congressmen might take over Appropriations, and run the nation from there while Obama settles for being a figurehead.

That puts Crazy Joe as POTUS.

A consumation maybe not as scary as it was January 21, 2009, I'll admit, but still one to give pause.

967 Ward Cleaver  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:02:14pm

re: #160 avanti

Not surprisingly, I think the interview will help him. Since he started his charm offensive this week, his gallop approval poll numbers are going up. He's getting his ducks in a row for the new budget. The folks that like BHO will like the interview, those that don't, won't. Personally, I think he needs to be careful to not do a media blitz like this every week, or it'll backfire at some point.

You've got to be fucking kidding me. After this, his poll number will drop like a rock in a vacuum.

968 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:03:45pm
969 expat canuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:04:18pm

Mr. President:
I am not laughing.
Fuck off.


/Something stinks in DC...and it is BO.

970 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:04:36pm

re: #963 Afrocity

He meant people of color. My brother is 15 years my senior. He grew up during the civil rights era and militant Black man days. I don't agree with him but this is typical of the mindset of many blacks who voted for Obama. Saying Obama is all we have is IMHO pretty sad news for Blacks if he is the standard. It also discounts the multitudes of other respected people of color. IMHO all you ever need is you.

Afrocity -

"Black" Americans have contributed to the USA since Day One. Start with the "Real McCoy" and go from there. "Black" Americans have been the ROEBUCK in Sears and more. When it comes to "inventiveness" - "Black" Americans have FEW Peers. Take That to the Bank.

-S-

971 pegcity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:06:00pm

re: #970 Dr. Shalit

style and music alone.

972 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:06:14pm

re: #963 Afrocity

He meant people of color. My brother is 15 years my senior. He grew up during the civil rights era and militant Black man days. I don't agree with him but this is typical of the mindset of many blacks who voted for Obama. Saying Obama is all we have is IMHO pretty sad news for Blacks if he is the standard. It also discounts the multitudes of other respected people of color. IMHO all you ever need is you.

Thank you for the reply. I find that mindset to be inappropriate to today's reality.

973 alegrias  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:07:41pm

re: #963 Afrocity

He meant people of color. My brother is 15 years my senior. He grew up during the civil rights era and militant Black man days. I don't agree with him but this is typical of the mindset of many blacks who voted for Obama. Saying Obama is all we have is IMHO pretty sad news for Blacks if he is the standard. It also discounts the multitudes of other respected people of color. IMHO all you ever need is you.

* * * *
I am so glad you are younger than your brother and more discriminating in that you will not settle for the first thing that comes along or appeals to people's first impressions only.

I pray Obama would do like Ronald Reagan, who though a life long FDR democrat, came to see from personal experience some of the inherent problems with collectivist philosophies. Reagan was able to re-invent himself in the school of hard knocks, and come out a better, more profoundly American man.

If Obama were big enough to change while in office and repudiate much of the leftist dogma he was raised on, taught in college & in Chicago, that would be the best gift to the planet.

Let's pray for a miracle, and that Obama doesn't have a nervous breakdown but a conversion on the road to Damascus! Like the Apostle Paul who was hunting down people whose philosophy he disagreed with, until he saw the light. May Obama get back to wonderul American fundamental principles of individual liberty, right to individual property, and the freedom of individuals to live their lives without undue government interference.

974 jorline  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:08:04pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

This man ignoramus needs to resign.

Up dinged you Sharm, but made one small change.

975 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:08:15pm

Oh, just to be clear...you I agree with....with brother, no.

976 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:08:32pm

re: #970 Dr. Shalit

That is it why it is sad that many think we Need Obama in order for the race to be successful. It angers me. My mom told me the story of Roebuck when I was small. I think Obama could not shine MLK's shoes. How soon people forget.

977 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:09:12pm

re: #962 alegrias

Suprise
Suprise
Suprise

/Gomer

Thanks for the update.

978 jcbunga  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:10:19pm

This guy is in way over his head.

979 Florida Lady  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:10:28pm

re: #90 Honorary Yooper

Shit, I'd take Biden right now. Damn, even Pelosi would be marginally more competent.

I'd rather have Biden . . . At least you don't get the feeling he dislikes this country (unlike Dear Leader), no one would take him seriously, he'll be almost too old to run again in 2012, and he'd be pure comedy gold for the next 46 months!

980 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:11:17pm

re: #973 alegrias

Nice dream but I would not hold my breath for Obama to change anytime soon. IMHO we should just hope to get him out of office in 2012.

981 Bobblehead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:12:00pm

re: #973 alegrias

* * * *
I am so glad you are younger than your brother and more discriminating in that you will not settle for the first thing that comes along or appeals to people's first impressions only.

I pray Obama would do like Ronald Reagan, who though a life long FDR democrat, came to see from personal experience some of the inherent problems with collectivist philosophies. Reagan was able to re-invent himself in the school of hard knocks, and come out a better, more profoundly American man.

If Obama were big enough to change while in office and repudiate much of the leftist dogma he was raised on, taught in college & in Chicago, that would be the best gift to the planet.

Let's pray for a miracle, and that Obama doesn't have a nervous breakdown but a conversion on the road to Damascus! Like the Apostle Paul who was hunting down people whose philosophy he disagreed with, until he saw the light. May Obama get back to wonderul American fundamental principles of individual liberty, right to individual property, and the freedom of individuals to live their lives without undue government interference.

I don't think the man is intellectually capable of such a conversion.

982 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:12:02pm

re: #973 alegrias


May Obama get back to wonderul American fundamental principles of individual liberty, right to individual property, and the freedom of individuals to live their lives without undue government interference.

A person can't get back to something they never were or had. That is VERY foolish thinking. It's like wishing that lion who is about to sink his fangs into you would lick you instead.

Everything 0bama has told us about what he believes in and wishes for this country is in diametric opposition to what you've said.

You've got to be kidding.

983 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:12:21pm

re: #979 Florida Lady

I'd rather have Biden . . . At least you don't get the feeling he dislikes this country (unlike Dear Leader), no one would take him seriously, he'll be almost too old to run again in 2012, and he'd be pure comedy gold for the next 46 months!

Ugh, Biden sucks and so does Nancy Pelosi who is after Biden. Either way, we end up with an idiot.

984 alegrias  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:12:38pm

re: #977 J.D.

Suprise
Suprise
Suprise

/Gomer

Thanks for the update.

* * **
Remember Sarah Palin daring the LA Times to release it? McCain's campaign apparently thought that video full of antisemitism would torpedo Obama with sane people.

985 ErnieG  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:12:45pm

re: #980 Afrocity

Nice dream but I would not hold my breath for Obama to change anytime soon. IMHO we should just hope to get him out of office in 2012.

By then he would be grateful for the relief.

986 Bobblehead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:13:00pm

re: #979 Florida Lady

I'd rather have Biden . . . At least you don't get the feeling he dislikes this country (unlike Dear Leader), no one would take him seriously, he'll be almost too old to run again in 2012, and he'd be pure comedy gold for the next 46 months!

I don't think Biden has any kind of agenda either.

987 lincolntf  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:13:30pm

re: #960 razorbacker

Yeah, Chrissy and Olby will be distraught, no doubt.

By the way, the "blackness" of the reporters isn't what makes them his own private press corps, it's their willingness to sign off on their profession in order to have an audience with the Great One that compromises them. I imagine that a bunch of white moonbat reporters would probably do the same thing.

The fact that Obama banned press coverage of a press event will always be precious to me. It points out so much about what is wrong with him, not to mention what is wrong with the country that elected him.

988 DisturbedEma  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:14:08pm

re: #959 Emerald

The MSM finally starts asking questions. A year or so too late. The real question: Are they trying to regain some credibility as it becomes blatantly obvious Obama's incompetent, or are they looking at their vanishing portfolios, not to mention higher taxes, and are trying to save their wallets.

I vote the latter.

989 Afrocity  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:14:44pm

re: #984 alegrias

* * **
Remember Sarah Palin daring the LA Times to release it? McCain's campaign apparently thought that video full of antisemitism would torpedo Obama with sane people.

Whatever happened to that tape?

990 alegrias  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:15:43pm

re: #981 Bobblehead

I don't think the man is intellectually capable of such a conversion.

* * * *
Reagan wasn't considered "intellectual" even by his speechwriter Peggy Noonan! Thankfully, people are capable of changing--even without Harvard law degrees.

I want my country to prosper & pray Obama is humble enough to ask for help from John McCain or others who won't laugh at his weakness, but will eagerly & earnestly help him deal with this "cross" he asked to bear.

991 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:16:19pm

re: #984 alegrias

* * **
Remember Sarah Palin daring the LA Times to release it? McCain's campaign apparently thought that video full of antisemitism would torpedo Obama with sane people.

I do.
McCain didn't want to do what it takes to win.
Too bad he ended up as the candidate.

992 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:17:02pm

re: #978 jcbunga

This guy is in way over his head.

And it shows.

993 Bobblehead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:17:10pm

re: #988 DisturbedEma

I vote the latter.

Frankly, at this point in time, I don't care why they are starting to push Obama. I just hope they keep it up.

994 BingoBunny  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:17:50pm

I call .. RANDOM DRUG TEST TIME MR OBAMA.. all presidents have to take it..

/it was just a toke or two to lighten up

995 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:18:02pm

re: #980 Afrocity

Nice dream but I would not hold my breath for Obama to change anytime soon. IMHO we should just hope to get him out of office in 2012.

I look to 2010 possibly becoming a serious roadblock to his fast-moving Socialist agenda. A change in Congress would be a step in the correct direction in actually implementing the promises O made on the campaign trail. Clinton was rudely brought up short by the mid term elections, here's to a similar thing for Obama.

996 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:18:03pm

Good God, Obama, Biden, Pelosi -

Winkin, Blinkin and Nod!

997 slterry40  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:18:27pm

We all know who the real culprit is here....George Bush. Obama only laughed because Bush was tickling him.

998 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:19:12pm

re: #968 Iron Fist

This is ironic. I think that's basically my problem with my current boss. Not that I'm big and tough - I'm different. I take the Metro at night! (He's afraid of Baltimore City.) I go to death metal concerts (he's an uber square). He freaked out when I went to an AWESOME Marilyn Manson concert last year at the Ram's Head - Twiggy was back!

He made one co-worker get rid of the green streaks in her hair. He made me quit wearing skate shoes (no one else noticed them). Square. Cube. Also rude - no one is happy with him.

I'm hoping they promote him out of the department.

999 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:19:30pm

re: #989 Afrocity

Whatever happened to that tape?

LAT still won't release it. Hiding important documents that might embarrass the Holy Messiah-King is the new patriotism.

1000 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:20:12pm

re: #996 SummerSong

Good God, Obama, Biden, Pelosi -

Winkin, Blinkiny and Nod!

1001 alegrias  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:20:19pm

re: #982 pink freud

A person can't get back to something they never were or had. That is VERY foolish thinking. It's like wishing that lion who is about to sink his fangs into you would lick you instead.

Everything 0bama has told us about what he believes in and wishes for this country is in diametric opposition to what you've said.

You've got to be kidding.

* * * *
Like I said, Ronald Reagan went from being an FDR voting democrat union boss to a great Republican.

I am not kidding when I say I fervently wish Obama can be humble enough to ask for help across the aisle, from John McCain who offered his hand and his help--or any other serious people-- for the sake of the country.

1002 Ward Cleaver  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:20:57pm

re: #1000 J.D.

1000! WTG J.D.!

1003 nyc redneck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:21:27pm

re: #982 pink freud

A person can't get back to something they never were or had. That is VERY foolish thinking. It's like wishing that lion who is about to sink his fangs into you would lick you instead.

Everything 0bama has told us about what he believes in and wishes for this country is in diametric opposition to what you've said.

You've got to be kidding.

that is what i was thinking.
there is no way o is going to "get better."
his hysterical guffawing is coming from the depths of his inept soul.
he is finding himself in a position that is beyond his grasp.
all he can do is laugh and flail,
as the pressure and responsibility settle in on him and he
realizes he is in over his head.
this is exactly how an empty suit reacts.
and it will only get worse.
he has no idea what to do. and voting present is no longer an option.

1004 alegrias  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:22:11pm

re: #989 Afrocity

Whatever happened to that tape?

* * * *
The LA Times has given excuses for not releasing the video but I forget the rationale. It was pretty lame and blatantly partisan, and unforgiveable. You know they'd have played anything unflattering to McCain or Palin until we all had it memorized.

1005 razorbacker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:22:43pm

re: #987 lincolntf

Then I misunderstood your post. I apologize for the confusion.

1006 capitalist piglet  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:22:44pm

re: #901 JohnAdams

My bet is Obama is up to about a pack and a half a day. This is so far from the job he thought he was getting. In fact, I don't think he realized it was a job.

Worse thing is, half the people who voted for him are more concerned with "American Idol", and the real damage he's doing won't start showing up for two more years.

That seems apparent to me. It started with his first transitional national security meeting, when he emerged looking rattled and like a deer caught in headlights. It continued when - after what was it? two weeks? - he publicly said he was tired of being in the White House.

This man - excuse me, this child-president - is a disaster. All he knows how to do is campaign and read a screen.

I am so afraid for my country. This cannot end well.

1007 JacksonTn  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:22:56pm

re: #160 avanti

Not surprisingly, I think the interview will help him. Since he started his charm offensive this week, his gallop approval poll numbers are going up. He's getting his ducks in a row for the new budget. The folks that like BHO will like the interview, those that don't, won't. Personally, I think he needs to be careful to not do a media blitz like this every week, or it'll backfire at some point.

Avanti ... you need a new comedy routine ... this one is getting so stale ...

1008 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:23:30pm

re: #1002 Ward Cleaver

1000! WTG J.D.!

Cool, huh?

Course I already have a couple of trophies on my mantel.
:D

1009 alegrias  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:24:15pm

re: #995 FurryOldGuyJeans

I look to 2010 possibly becoming a serious roadblock to his fast-moving Socialist agenda. A change in Congress would be a step in the correct direction in actually implementing the promises O made on the campaign trail. Clinton was rudely brought up short by the mid term elections, here's to a similar thing for Obama.

* * * *
Absolutely right. Dumping Pelosi's troops has to be our goal.

1010 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:24:44pm
1011 DisturbedEma  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:26:17pm

re: #993 Bobblehead

Frankly, at this point in time, I don't care why they are starting to push Obama. I just hope they keep it up.


amen. . .

1012 DisturbedEma  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:27:15pm

re: #1007 JacksonTn

Avanti ... you need a new comedy routine ... this one is getting so stale ...

yeah, or maybe this is a side effect from prolonged ingestion of the kool aid. . .

1013 Bobblehead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:27:35pm

re: #990 alegrias


I think that Obama does not have enough depth of feeling for mankind in general to enable him to make that kind of conversion.
BTW.... I now take anything Peggy Noonan says with a grain of salt after her shameful pandering during and after the election, especially her opinion of President Reagan.

1014 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:28:03pm

I guess everyone saw Michelle "digging" a garden.

Thankfully, someone at least tole her which end of the shovel to point down.
It was clear she had never used one before.

1015 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:28:14pm

told


duh

1016 alegrias  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:28:24pm

re: #1010 Iron Fist

* * * *
We must never back down, we must never ever surrender, if it takes blood sweat & tears. I'm trying to quote Winston Churchill by heart.

As John McCain says, Fight with Me. America is worth it. Don't let the VietCong get us down. We are not in Hanoi, locked up, tapping on walls.

1017 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:29:05pm
1018 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:29:30pm

re: #1001 alegrias

* * * *
Like I said, Ronald Reagan went from being an FDR voting democrat union boss to a great Republican.

I am not kidding when I say I fervently wish Obama can be humble enough to ask for help across the aisle, from John McCain who offered his hand and his help--or any other serious people-- for the sake of the country.

I know you've been on LGF for a while and have been exposed to the thousands of links here all testifying in fact and speculation as to just what 0bama is. I have seen NOT ONE THING to support this assertion of yours that 0bama is somehow capable of being humble.

Furthermore, I have seen NOT ONE THING that supports your assertion that he wishes to do anything that is for the good of this country.

Again, lion -- throat. A beast is true to its nature.

1019 Dustyvet  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:30:34pm

re: #1000 J.D.

Huey,Dewy, and Louie

Moe, Curly, and Larry

Doc, Grumpy, Sleepy, Dopy....

1020 razorbacker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:30:48pm

re: #1014 J.D.

I guess everyone saw Michelle "digging" a garden.

Thankfully, someone at least tole her which end of the shovel to point down.
It was clear she had never used one before.

What? Isn't that how you dress whilst gardening?

I know my wife always puts on her Sunday finest before taking up a shovel.

1021 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:31:22pm

re: #1007 JacksonTn

Hi Jackson! You must be covered up, I rarely see you here lately.

Good to see you!

1022 alegrias  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:31:24pm

re: #1013 Bobblehead

I think that Obama does not have enough depth of feeling for mankind in general to enable him to make that kind of conversion.
BTW.... I now take anything Peggy Noonan says with a grain of salt after her shameful pandering during and after the election, especially her opinion of President Reagan.

* * *
Yes, at first I thought she was supportive of Sarah Palin, especially the way Noonan wrote about Palin's great convention speech.

Peggy Noonan did come from a democrat background, so her wishy washiness was not beyond the realm, but it was a disappointment she caved for a lightweight like Obama after having worked for real Mensches & Gentlemen, Reagan & Bush the Elder.

1023 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:32:40pm

re: #971 pegcity

pegcity -

MORE than that contribution. "Black-Americans" have contributed MUCH to the USA and the World. From what I understand, a "Black-American" figured out how to make a Practical Light Bulb, working for Thomas Edison at the time. Go from there AND you will find that "Black-Americans" on the whole ARE and Have Remained Loyal Citizens of the USAre: #976 Afrocity

That is it why it is sad that many think we Need Obama in order for the race to be successful. It angers me. My mom told me the story of Roebuck when I was small. I think Obama could not shine MLK's shoes. How soon people forget.

Afrocity -

I could only shine MLK's Shoes IN MY DREAMS. That is all.

-S-

1024 Bobblehead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:33:09pm

re: #1018 pink freud

AMEN!

1025 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:33:45pm

re: #1019 Dustyvet

Well, they've used the sleepy excuse.
I believe the dopey excuse is at least as viable.

1026 UncleRancher  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:34:32pm

It seems such a long time ago we had adults in charge.

1027 alegrias  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:35:25pm

re: #1018 pink freud

I know you've been on LGF for a while and have been exposed to the thousands of links here all testifying in fact and speculation as to just what 0bama is. I have seen NOT ONE THING to support this assertion of yours that 0bama is somehow capable of being humble.

Furthermore, I have seen NOT ONE THING that supports your assertion that he wishes to do anything that is for the good of this country.

Again, lion -- throat. A beast is true to its nature.

* * * *
Ah said, I fervently HOPE & WISH Obama can be humble enough to ask for help. You know the 12 steppers say the first step is acknowledging there IS a problem.

And I won't call the duly elected president a beast. I saw him swear the oath of the Presidency while looking mighty sober. May Obama get his gravitas back, & put the country first.

1028 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:35:52pm
1029 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:36:03pm

re: #1020 razorbacker

What? Isn't that how you dress whilst gardening?

I know my wife always puts on her Sunday finest before taking up a shovel.

As do we all.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

1030 jorline  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:36:16pm

re: #160 avanti

Not surprisingly, I think the interview will help him. Since he started his charm offensive this week, his gallop approval poll numbers are going up. He's getting his ducks in a row for the new budget. The folks that like BHO will like the interview, those that don't, won't. Personally, I think he needs to be careful to not do a media blitz like this every week, or it'll backfire at some point.

Avanti, this guys love the lime light. PBO hasn't found a camera he didn't like.

I would worrying when a stanch member of the MSM, "60 Minutes", takes shots at the POTUS. I think Croft was expressing genuine concern about his competence.

Up ding for Croft!

1031 razorbacker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:37:24pm

Vic Snyder is an old school liberal; one with principles

I can't name a half-dozen things that I'd agree with him on, but he does have his moments.

1032 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:37:25pm

re: #1027 alegrias

* * * *
Ah said, I fervently HOPE & WISH Obama can be humble enough to ask for help. You know the 12 steppers say the first step is acknowledging there IS a problem.

And I won't call the duly elected president a beast. I saw him swear the oath of the Presidency while looking mighty sober. May Obama get his gravitas back, & put the country first.

You've got to be kidding.

1033 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:39:07pm

re: #1027 alegrias

alegrias -

Let us Pray together. What ultimately Counts is the Republic. To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin - for as long as we can keep it. That is all.

-S-

1034 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:39:25pm
1035 Bobblehead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:39:42pm

re: #1020 razorbacker

What? Isn't that how you dress whilst gardening?

I know my wife always puts on her Sunday finest before taking up a shovel.

The woman is as insecure as her husband.

1036 tradewind  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:42:20pm

re: #496 avanti

Diagnosis: acute Bush/Cheney Derangement Syndrome. A not-uncommon complication often following a lingering case of Hanging Chadosis, it presents as an inability to distinguish events of the past with those of the present.......
Get help before it becomes chronic and results in total political tone-deafness.

1037 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:43:08pm

re: #1034 ploome hineni

must read

[Link: www.politico.com...]

'He thinks it’s about him'

Even Biden knows the zero doesn't even know the meaning of the word gravitas.

1038 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:43:35pm

re: #476 KitchenQueen

I think it's supposed to be Mark Steyn filling in tomorrow.

I'll have to tune in, then.
Thanks.

1039 Bobblehead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:44:04pm

re: #1027 alegrias

And I won't call the duly elected president a beast. I saw him swear the oath of the Presidency while looking mighty sober. May Obama get his gravitas back, & put the country first.


The Obama bill of goods. I guess you bought it. I did not.

1040 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:44:19pm

re: #1034 ploome hineni

must read

[Link: www.politico.com...]

I can't believe VP Biden said this (on the other hand, yes I can):

President Obama does send his greetings, though. He can’t be here tonight -- because he’s busy getting ready for Easter. (Whisper) He thinks it’s about him. …
1041 USBeast  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:44:54pm

re: #1033 Dr. Shalit

alegrias -

Let us Pray together. What ultimately Counts is the Republic. To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin - for as long as we can keep it. That is all.

-S-

Amen.

1042 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:46:36pm

re: #1039 Bobblehead

Bobblehead -

NOR DID I - and - So far as I know, Prayer Has No Downside.

-S-

1043 Bobblehead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:48:13pm

re: #1042 Dr. Shalit

Bobblehead -

NOR DID I - and - So far as I know, Prayer Has No Downside.

-S-

Agreed.

1044 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:48:23pm
1045 JacksonTn  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:49:04pm

re: #1021 pink freud

Hi Jackson! You must be covered up, I rarely see you here lately.

Good to see you!

Senator Freud ... yes, I am covered up ... have not been online much at all ... we are doing okay ... more family members losing their jobs next week ... last week one ... and my friends in memphis are starting to freak ... I hate Obama ...but then you already knew that ...

1046 razorbacker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:50:26pm

Politicians seem to be pols where ever they may be found...

Panel recommends amendment to end Game and Fish autonomy

“I just think it’s time that this agency be put back under the executive and the legislative portion of government,” Smith told the committee. “I think they’re not in tune with Arkansans.”

This is a little inside baseball, I know. For decades, the AGFC operated solely on the monies from a tax on outdoor gear (guns, ammo, fishing boats, and the like) and hunting and fishing licenses. When it was proposed that a portion of the general sales taxes also be earmarked for the AGFC, a minority of us screamed bloody murder, saying it would be only a matter of time before the agency was no longer independent but just another scandal-ridden, crony-infested, dirty little arm of the politicians. I hate being right, sometimes.

And for your amusement...

The committee also recommended SJR 10 by Sen. Percy Malone, D-Arkadelphia, which would repeal the constitutional amendment that voters approved in November mandating annual legislative sessions.

Malone was not present to speak on the bill. Sen. Bobby Glover, D-Carlisle, who filed a similar resolution that was not endorsed, said he would support Malone’s proposal.

Glover admitted that he voted two years ago to recommend the amendment that created annual sessions, but he said he never expected it to pass.

“I voted as a courtesy to put this on the ballot, thinking the people would vote it down,” he said.

1047 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:50:58pm
1048 USBeast  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:52:58pm

re: #1042 Dr. Shalit

Bobblehead -

NOR DID I - and - So far as I know, Prayer Has No Downside.

-S-

Laborare est orare. There is much work to do if our prayers are to be answered.

1049 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:53:09pm

Laughter is a primal response by a beta-male or female to superior aggression and is used as a way to deflect aggression. It is seen in primates as well - (no racial insinuation, just fact.) I had a friend who was horribly abused by her husband, and when we were in a group, and someone made a comment that would start to get him a little hot under the collar, she would start to giggle.

She still laughs when we talk about tragic things. I don't get offended because I know it is a defense mechanism.

1050 razorbacker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:53:25pm

re: #1040 Catttt

Did you see his joke about Cheney?

It seems that tradition calls for a personal note from the outgoing VP to the incoming VP.

Biden says when he opened the desk drawer, Cheney had left him Obama's original birth certificate.

1051 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:54:12pm

re: #1048 USBeast

"USB" -

YUP!

-S-

1052 capitalist piglet  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:54:17pm

re: #1047 ploome hineni

is Biden doing stand up now?

is this what it has come to?

/how was this clown ever chosen VP?

It was the Gridiron thing, with the press...kind of like a roast. They all kind of lampoon one another. Obama is the first president to skip it since the 1800s, so Biden took his place.

Biden being a clown, well...it sounds like it worked out pretty well. In fact, running around deadpanning jokes sounds like the perfect gig for him.

1053 USBeast  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:55:20pm

re: #1051 Dr. Shalit

"USB" -

YUP!

-S-

You are an eloquent man.

1054 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:55:44pm

re: #1045 JacksonTn

I am so sorry to hear about the job losses, Jackson. The flashflood effect of this administration on ALL facets of our lives is breathtaking. So furious, so fast. I am picking up on a snowballing sense of 'run for cover' everywhere, in so many people ...but there's nowhere to run.

I am glad to know that you are holding your own. :-)

Scary times.

1055 nyc redneck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:58:19pm

o has no idea what is going on now,
except the accolades are not pouring in like they used to.
and people are not enamored of every "uh uh" he grunts out.
and like any narcissist, he is incapable of any real personal reflection.
so he laughs
like a deranged person,

this public display of hysteria by o is too fcking weird .

1056 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:58:41pm

re: #1049 DistantThunder

Laughter is a primal response by a beta-male or female to superior aggression and is used as a way to deflect aggression. It is seen in primates as well - (no racial insinuation, just fact.) I had a friend who was horribly abused by her husband, and when we were in a group, and someone made a comment that would start to get him a little hot under the collar, she would start to giggle.

She still laughs when we talk about tragic things. I don't get offended because I know it is a defense mechanism.

...and even though 0bama was not facing any overt aggression whatsoever, his inappropriate laughter is indicative of the state of mind he is in: threatened, unsure, uncomfortable, and in over his head.

1057 Bobblehead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:59:55pm

re: #1050 razorbacker

Did you see his joke about Cheney?

It seems that tradition calls for a personal note from the outgoing VP to the incoming VP.

Biden says when he opened the desk drawer, Cheney had left him Obama's original birth certificate.

Who wrote that stuff? re: #1049 DistantThunder

Laughter is a primal response by a beta-male or female to superior aggression and is used as a way to deflect aggression. It is seen in primates as well - (no racial insinuation, just fact.) I had a friend who was horribly abused by her husband, and when we were in a group, and someone made a comment that would start to get him a little hot under the collar, she would start to giggle.

She still laughs when we talk about tragic things. I don't get offended because I know it is a defense mechanism.

There's the tragedy. Governing a country, especially the U.S., requires a an alpha personality.

1058 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:59:59pm

re: #1052 capitalist piglet

It was the Gridiron thing, with the press...kind of like a roast. They all kind of lampoon one another. Obama is the first president to skip it since the 1800s, so Biden took his place.

Biden being a clown, well...it sounds like it worked out pretty well. In fact, running around deadpanning jokes sounds like the perfect gig for him.

"cap-pig" -

Face It VP Biden is THE BIGGEST VP-Target since Dan Quayle.With apologies to Dan Quayle.

-S-

1059 JacksonTn  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:00:39pm

re: #1055 nyc redneck

o has no idea what is going on now,
except the accolades are not pouring in like they used to.
and people are not enamored of every "uh uh" he grunts out.
and like any narcissist, he is incapable of any real personal reflection.
so he laughs
like a deranged person,

this public display of hysteria by o is too fcking weird .

I would say ObamaJerkOff's Sally Field moment has come and gone ...he is so over his head he wants to crawl up MEchells ass ... she is totally a beard ... I don't care what people say ...

1060 Bobblehead  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:01:09pm

re: #1058 Dr. Shalit

"cap-pig" -

Face It VP Biden is THE BIGGEST VP-Target since Dan Quayle.With apologies to Dan Quayle.

-S-

Dan Quayle got a very bum rap.

1061 USBeast  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:02:16pm

re: #1056 pink freud

...and even though 0bama was not facing any overt aggression whatsoever, his inappropriate laughter is indicative of the state of mind he is in: threatened, unsure, uncomfortable, and in over his head.

Unfortunately "threatened, unsure, uncomfortable, and in over his head" describes most of the electorate.

1062 razorbacker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:03:24pm

Busy day starts in six hours.

I'm off to bed.

Nytol.

1063 capitalist piglet  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:04:33pm

re: #1058 Dr. Shalit

"cap-pig" -

Face It VP Biden is THE BIGGEST VP-Target since Dan Quayle.With apologies to Dan Quayle.

-S-

If he's a target, the media is a very poor shot.

Katie Couric didn't even question him on the stock market crash/Roosevelt/television remark. Didn't even flinch.

She probably didn't know what was wrong with what he said.

Can you imagine what would have happened to Quayle if he called a black man "clean, articulate...storybook"? If he had made ethnic jokes about Indian-Americans? If he had tried to recall the "number" of a website?

I wish they'd go after Biden with half the aggressiveness they did Dan Quayle, you know?

1064 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:04:47pm

re: #1059 JacksonTn

I agree 100% with the beard analogy. There are those here who say his sexuality is no one's business ...but a person's sexuality relates to the essence of who they are, as well as to their identity. There is no way his identity can be as shattered as it is without the same being true of his sexuality.

1065 USBeast  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:04:54pm

re: #1060 Bobblehead

Dan Quayle got a very bum rap.

He was only a prelude to the savaging of President Bush.

1066 nyc redneck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:05:03pm

re: #1059 JacksonTn

I would say ObamaJerkOff's Sally Field moment has come and gone ...he is so over his head he wants to crawl up MEchells ass ... she is totally a beard ... I don't care what people say ...

total beard.

1067 Catttt  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:09:10pm

re: #1050 razorbacker

Did you see his joke about Cheney?

It seems that tradition calls for a personal note from the outgoing VP to the incoming VP.

Biden says when he opened the desk drawer, Cheney had left him Obama's original birth certificate.

Yeah. :D At least VP Biden seems to know how to joke in a way that's - you know - funny. Unlike certain Presidents that start with O who are totally clueless and seem to think belittling and condescension is a laugh riot. It's like President O is from Mars and hasn't got the hang of Earth yet.

1068 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:10:10pm

re: #847 Afrocity

Sounds like Spyware.

That's about it.

1069 JacksonTn  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:12:31pm

I cannot keep my eyes open but I want to catch up on the threads ... maybe tomorrow ... gotta get up early and work while we still can ... it makes me laugh to read all of ya'll ... keep up the fight and stay together ...

Good Night Lizards ...

1070 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:13:13pm

re: #1069 JacksonTn

Goodnight, Jackson. Sweet dreams, and have a wonderful week!

1071 benzguy  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:16:42pm

Is it just me or is this president totally clueless?

1072 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:19:19pm

re: #1071 benzguy

Is it just me or is this president totally clueless?

Why, it's just you!

////////////

Hello and happy lizard anniversary!

1073 devil in baggy pants  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:21:17pm

Have you guys thought about how this is going to play out in countries where English isn't the primary language?

I think Kroft was spot-on in asking the question... I really believe that he couldn't believe what was happening before his eyes.

But can you imagine the headlines?

"US. PRESIDENT OBAMA DRUNK ON NATIONAL TV"

Oy. I've said it 50 times...

WHAT A TOOL.

1074 Taqiyyotomist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:24:16pm

re: #160 avanti

Not surprisingly, I think the interview will help him. Since he started his charm offensive this week, his gallop approval poll numbers are going up. He's getting his ducks in a row for the new budget. The folks that like BHO will like the interview, those that don't, won't. Personally, I think he needs to be careful to not do a media blitz like this every week, or it'll backfire at some point.

It's Gallup. Downdinged.

1075 Anna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:36:25pm

re: #375 Perplexed

Another stellar employee of Yoyodyne - Barry Smallberries

1076 Capitalistincharge  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:38:20pm

It appears that more comes to light each and every day to illustrate just what an inexperienced figurehead our new President is.
*Sent a letter to the FORMER President of France, Chirac instead of
the current Sarkosy
*Goes on national TV and laughs, seemingly incredulous with the
difficult decisions he has to make
*Speaks about the economy proving he does not understand how
it works.
That's today folks. More to come tomorrow.

1077 Gretchen  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:41:37pm

HOLY freaking CRAP!

At least 60 minutes gets it - that's the amazing thisng this idiot is LAUGHING!

" I don' think "Baaaaahhhha Bush as an idiot" will quite work anymore. I think the lefties can't quite belive what a complete zero Obama really is. He's the middle schooler President. They all totally deserve this 'cause they are the middle schooler voters, but now they are coming to the realization he's like waaaaaay dumber than Bush. Like totally waaaay dumber dude. Totally, man. This is totally ruining the we got the pres dude buzz. Obama like totally sucks man.

1078 funky chicken  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:42:06pm

re: #13 vagabond trader

I miss Richard Nixon.

I miss Bill Clinton!

1079 Gretchen  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:44:05pm

re: #1067 Catttt

Yeah. :D At least VP Biden seems to know how to joke in a way that's - you know - funny


. Unlike certain Presidents that start with O who are totally clueless and seem to think belittling and condescension is a laugh riot. It's like President O is from Mars and hasn't got the hang of Earth yet.


HOly crap - you are right - BIDEN is smarter than Obama. That's bone chilling.

1080 Rakkasan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:48:13pm

re: #1077 Gretchen

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny? What the fuck is so funny about me?

And with that I say goodnight, and may the country still be here in the morning.

1081 Gella  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:52:12pm

re: #1077 Gretchen

HOLY freaking CRAP!

At least 60 minutes gets it - that's the amazing thisng this idiot is LAUGHING!

" I don' think "Baaaaahhhha Bush as an idiot" will quite work anymore. I think the lefties can't quite belive what a complete zero Obama really is. He's the middle schooler President. They all totally deserve this 'cause they are the middle schooler voters, but now they are coming to the realization he's like waaaaaay dumber than Bush. Like totally waaaay dumber dude. Totally, man. This is totally ruining the we got the pres dude buzz. Obama like totally sucks man.

don't worry, they will make it look like its not his fault

1082 Gretchen  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:56:52pm

re: #1080 Rakkasan

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny? What the fuck is so funny about me?

And with that I say goodnight, and may the country still be here in the morning.

Yeah the country will be here but will it be, like totally, Heil Obama dude? Or like what?

This guy seemed really like cool and now, I don't know, but he's like completely laughing on TV and like Bush is a moron, but like you know, he never like completely lost it giggling like a 3rd grade girl or something during an interview man.

1083 hous bin pharteen  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:58:45pm

What do you guys expect? He was brought into polics by the weather underground. His wife hates the US. But now she denies that.
He wants to be a superstar. Not a leader.

1084 Gretchen  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:59:16pm

re: #1078 funky chicken

Yes, I keep thinking "if only Hillary were elected" which I consider a sign of the Apocalypse, that this would enter my mind as an acceptable alternative.

1085 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:00:03pm
1086 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:25:04pm
1087 rumcrook  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:33:32pm

re: #1081 Gella

e: #1077 Gretchen

HOLY freaking CRAP!

At least 60 minutes gets it - that's the amazing thisng this idiot is LAUGHING!

" I don' think "Baaaaahhhha Bush as an idiot" will quite work anymore. I think the lefties can't quite belive what a complete zero Obama really is.

don't worry, they will make it look like its not his fault

they will make it look like its not his fault that he's stupid? how are they gonna blame his stupidity on bush, thats the puzzle.

1088 Xango Annie  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:37:19pm

I have seen more than several people that were stoned..and I think he was.....

1089 looking closely  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:38:14pm

After this sort of nonsense from the President, its no wonder he can't fill the spots on Treasury.

Why would anyone with half a clue want to work for this economic illiterate, with the expectation that they will be personally disparaged and thrown under the proverbial bus when politically expedient?

1090 Roses  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:42:56pm

re: #215 karmic_inquisitor

I think we are witnessing the complete dissolution of the Democratic party.

Remember - they have absolutely nothing to fall back on.

The last 6 years have been about personality - attacking Bush, promoting Obama.

Well guess what - America is seeing this clown for what he is, and the Democrats can't turn to a "big idea" to justify their reign other than "blame someone else".

I do so hope you are right!

They have only themselves to blame.

1091 Roses  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:55:59pm

re: #322 ArchangelMichael

Not saying I disagree with the motivation behind them but I think I know the reason they take the form they do. It's an easy non-committed, feel good/do nothing way for conservatives who have jobs and families, and hence cannot waste a lot of time marching, holding up signs, and chanting mindless slogans, to protest.

Whatever it is - it is a means of sending a message - that we are not going to take this laying down, that people WILL stand up for what is right, that Obama and ACORN do not have free rein or a mandate - that PEOPLE still care and still matter more than Party. It is absolutely vital that the crowds grow.

The stock market will begin to recover, in spite of Obama, and he will use that as 'proof' that he has done the right thing and that his policies are the answer. They are not, and it takes something like these Tea Parties to say so.

Get behind it! No matter if you are a Republican, Democrat, Green, Libertarian or Martian - Help that movement, that willingness to stand up and speak out grow! It can make all the difference! It's not about Party, it is about Right and Wrong, and what is right for this country.

1092 looking closely  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:01:56pm

re: #812 powerplay

Can somebody explain to me why Obama WANTS to be on television?


This is simple.
a. He's a narcissist and
b. The press has treated him with kid gloves for the last 20 months. He's never really been "called" on anything, and when he has been (eg with Wright), he's managed to wriggle out due to weak followup.

I think Obama simply hasn't realized (yet) how much the press can hurt him, and how susceptible he really is. His weakness there is a side effect of him not having been properly vetted the first time.

If he had been forced to deal with lots of tough questions as a candidate, he'd be better prepared as POTUS. . .but then again, if he had actually faced lots of tough questions as candidate, maybe he wouldn't have won the nomination (let alone the election).


Is he painting himself into a corner? What happens when he makes a fool of himself with even the most sycophantic talk show hosts? (Jay Leno was bad enough).....then WHERE will he go? Obama only talks to lapdog press outlets....but what happens when there are no more lapdogs?

Will he wind up only talking to the Huffington Post by the end of his first term?


Well, he's doing quite a good job of reversing the sense that he can't do anything wrong all by himself with this series of unforced errors.

Obama has no choice. If he wants to function as POTUS he's got to communicate with the press, at least at the level of his office, if not personally. If he keeps humiliating himself, eventually he'll just reduce his personal press exposure as much as possible, sticking to prepared statements (ie reading from his teleprompter), and limiting non-scripted questions as much as absolutely possible.

1093 pbird  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:02:22pm

re: #770 Iron Fist

It is worse than that. You are starting to see blacks out and about wearing T-shirts to the One, some are more obsequous than others, but the feeling they project is one of entitlement. It isn't that "Obama was the best man to run for President, and isn't it good that the best man won even though he is visibly black. How far we've come from Selma", but that it is about damn time a [deleted] like that got elected to the office of the Presidency. It's about damn time. Now we're royalty and we expect to be treated like it.

If Obama were to resign you'd hear conspiracy theories about Conspiracy theories. And see rioting on a scale that would make the LA riots look like a childhood prank.

Very true. I see it all the time. Don't care for the attitude much.

1094 looking closely  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:05:35pm

re: #1086 Iron Fist

I don't think its appropriate to consider violent scenarios involving the POTUS.

As to Hilary Clinton, she may be a Marxist too, and she well may have restocked the White House with senile appointees from her husbands administration. Still, do you have any doubt that she would exercise better judgment than Obama (ie just about everywhere)?

1095 Edouard  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:08:14pm

re: #1027 alegrias

* * * *
May Obama get his gravitas back, & put the country first.

?

"Gravitas"? When did Obama ever have that?

1096 looking closely  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:11:49pm

re: #1073 devil in baggy pants


I think Kroft was spot-on in asking the question... I really believe that he couldn't believe what was happening before his eyes.


Indeed. Obama was behaving in a surprisingly unserious way.
Kroft was cagey is asking it, too, though he really is a good interviewer.
"Punch drunk" could be interpreted in a variety of ways.

1097 Roses  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:17:38pm

re: #1096 looking closely

Indeed. Obama was behaving in a surprisingly unserious way.
Kroft was cagey is asking it, too, though he really is a good interviewer.
"Punch drunk" could be interpreted in a variety of ways.

What struck me was Kroft's obvious disdain and anger - he knows what he was looking at, and he knows the repercussions, must be feeling them personally.

This was no softball interview. It was very impressive, and it is interesting to watch Obama's realization that the man he was facing didn't like him very much, begin to sense the anger, and see the tightening of his own face.

Good job, Mr. Kroft.

1098 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:24:01pm

The silver lining in this situation is that it is becoming harder for the ones who supported him to defend him, and easier for me to continue hammering home my points. I'm driving toward a Dem oust in 2010 and 0bama is in the process of bringing that closer to a reality.

1099 broon95  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:02:55am

obama was drunk on the tonight show

1100 FabioC.  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:20:35am

Pot is known to cause incotrollable laughter, even more than alcohol.

1101 Syrah  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:31:59am

re: #293 Charles

I have to admit, I'm really not understanding the point of these "tea parties." Are they supposed to accomplish something? If so, I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?

They accomplish "fellowship". Little else.

Fellowship is important in that it helps people gain courage and strength with the knowledge that they are not alone in their beliefs and in their frustrations.

1102 Canard51  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:37:14am

I can only say that he is exceeding my expectations. He's an even bigger fuck!ng idiot than I thought.

1103 wordsworth  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:59:17am

Something tells me this isn't the first time such an exchange has happened, just the first time it's made it to air. This is the first time we've really seen an interviewer really call Obama out.

That, and it sure looked like Obama may have had a hidden mic in his ear, and his outburst was prompted by a joke he was being told. Either that or he really is a maniacal nutjob.

1104 annak  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:03:57am

I can not believe obama laughed like this. i honestly think he really is being sincere when he is laughing. he loves this! he thinks its funny! while the rest of us will suffer the consequences of his absolutely moronic spending bill he is up there having a grand ol time. he's partying every night, reveling in his new-found status as king...er, i mean president, of the free world.

do you think obama plays the violin? is he going to fiddling while the US falls into debt and our currency is dumped by as the reserve currency of the world...nawwww...he's going to be practicing his bowling, and then he'll be shooting some hoops!

next thing you know michelle antoinette will be telling us to eat cake...

1105 ashan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:34:05am

Not only is The One sliding deeper into the deep end of the pool, his handlers haven't figured out how to rescue him. He will "drown" soon enough, but not before he decimates America's hard-working middle class. He and his henchmen are absconding with our money and trying to deplete our power as a society. The One is trying to use every tool in the book to divide us. But, as we saw in the Kroft interview, even the media is starting to see the cracks in The One's darkening mirror.

BTW - I think that that's what the tea parties and Beck's 912 Project are all about - keeping us united and showing our group strength before the sh*t really hits the fan.

1106 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:16:10am
1107 Montrose51  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:10:08am

I'm telling you, Obama is MOTUS.

To say he's in over his head is being kind. He's 40,000 leagues over his head.

1108 xiphos  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:13:01am

#34...........Institutionalized(?)........The inmate(s) is/are running the (D.C.) asylum.

1109 ashan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:11:47am

re: #1106 buzzsawmonkey

"The majority of the voters picked change?"

No. The majority of the voters responded to a cynical advertising campaign, of which "change" was the slogan. The product was political New Coke--but unfortunately, we the people are stuck with this bottle of political New Coke for four years before we can toss it out.

Unless, of course, he's impeached.
Heh.

1110 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:21:50am

re: #1089 looking closely

After this sort of nonsense from the President, its no wonder he can't fill the spots on Treasury.

Why would anyone with half a clue want to work for this economic illiterate, with the expectation that they will be personally disparaged and thrown under the proverbial bus when politically expedient?

He can't fill spots in the Treasurey because Geithner is an idiot, and also that once 0bama has driven the economy into the ground AIG on a resume will look better than Treasury.

1111 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:05:25am

You laugh, Mr. President, when I and others have no work?

You, sir, are an epic failure as a leader.

Palin would not have laughed.

1112 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:06:38am
1113 Roger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:26:56am

President Obama is laughing; plans could not be going better.

1114 Pupdawg  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:50:02am

The under-qualified are generally overwhelmed. This fits Mr. T to a T.

Inappropriate laughter by adults is the response of the immature who lack confidence or are ill-equipped to present meaningful responses to questions and situations. Mr. T thinks not on his feet, as we have learned.

Sometimes it is simply a case of nerves or dread like when one is confronted in class who has not done his homework. Mr. T obviously does not do his homework. He has had plenty of people over his career in politics to do this for him. So, why change now. If this is the problem with Mr. T, we are again in very, very serious trouble under his bumbling ruler-ship.

These type individuals are incapable of handling the moment so they laugh. I assume he had no teleprompter since his weirdly-timed laughter occurred. If teleprompted, the laughter would have either been cued-in for him or not on his written and scripted answers or 'message'...scary, eh?

Mr. T is incapable of catching-up to his pay grade!

We as a nation can only hope and pray that the MSM soon wake up and call it like it is with Mr. T. Many on the right asked, 'how much damage can one POTUS do in four years anyway?' We are in for four years of hell. Carter's four years were purgatory for the nation while Obama has us headed straight to hell, do not pass goal, do not collect $200 after only 2 months with 46 months to go...that is if prayers are answered and he is a one-termer.

1115 Pupdawg  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:53:41am

re: #1114 Pupdawg

The under-qualified are generally overwhelmed. This fits Mr. T to a T.

Inappropriate laughter by adults is the response of the immature who lack confidence or are ill-equipped to present meaningful responses to questions and situations. Mr. T thinks not on his feet, as we have learned.

Sometimes it is simply a case of nerves or dread like when one is confronted in class who has not done his homework. Mr. T obviously does not do his homework. He has had plenty of people over his career in politics to do this for him. So, why change now. If this is the problem with Mr. T, we are again in very, very serious trouble under his bumbling ruler-ship.

These type individuals are incapable of handling the moment so they laugh. I assume he had no teleprompter since his weirdly-timed laughter occurred. If teleprompted, the laughter would have either been cued-in for him or not on his written and scripted answers or 'message'...scary, eh?

Mr. T is incapable of catching-up to his pay grade!

We as a nation can only hope and pray that the MSM soon wake up and call it like it is with Mr. T. Many on the right asked, 'how much damage can one POTUS do in four years anyway?' We are in for four years of hell. Carter's four years were purgatory for the nation while Obama has us headed straight to hell, do not pass goal, do not collect $200 after only 2 months with 46 months to go...that is if prayers are answered and he is a one-termer.

re: #2 pegcity

seriously, its like a 5 year old is president. a really daft 5 year old

Maybe from childlike ignorance like the laughing-bafoon character, Dr. Evil?

1116 Pupdawg  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:00:53am

re: #8 HoosierHoops

I'm watching him...He called it Gallows humor to get you through the day..
oh boy....

...we and the country are in line for the beheading...Mr. T fails to grasp that he is the MSM-enabled, masked executioner...'let them eat cake then off with their heads!'

But, he's so cool...puke.

1117 PISSED  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:17:39am

all i can say is "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot"... and shake my head in disbelief....

I hope that the 53% of this country that voted for a teleprompter are happy with their choice.... We are going to be in deeeeep doo-doo....

1118 PISSED  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:20:14am

Steve Kroft---- PATRIOT! at least he had the cojones to ask the question..

his records being searched in 3...2....1.....

1119 Kaymad  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:01:41am

I am so SICK of hearing Obama complain about how much was left for him to deal with. He should have dropped out of the race in the Fall if this was something he couldn't deal with.

Imagine Bush after 9-11 complaining about the attacks and what it meant for him...I was suppose to be the education President!--whine---not a war time President!--whine.

Obama is a fool who needs to stop the bull shit interviews until he grows a pair.

1120 alegrias  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:15:43am

The Obama media base thought he was to big too fail.

1121 Land Shark  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:33:53am

I don't watch 60 Minutes so I didn't see the interview. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but this must be the first time anyone who's interviewed a sitting President asked him if he's punch drunk. Think about it for a second, an interviewer in the Obama worshiping MSM had to ask the President if he's punch drunk because he's acting as if he is. And this clueless Bozo is our President? In these trying times? Like so many of you said earlier in the thread, we are F'd big time.

I knew Obama was going to be a disaster, I just never imagined he'd look so bad so quickly. What the hell were the idiots who voted for this fool thinking!?

1122 jordash1212  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 9:06:40am

At least it's not cocaine.

1123 joan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 9:09:47am

Fiddle-dee-dee! Rome wasn't burnt in a day....

/sarc

1124 Joan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 9:12:17am

re: #1 Kosh's Shadow

Was it some evil laugh like Nyah-ha-ha!

I think 0 is really trying to ruin the country.

"Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck! Hey, Mo! Looka'ME--I'm d'President! Nyuck, nyck."

1125 Joan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 9:17:14am

re: #23 karmic_inquisitor

Read the full transcript.

This man has no fucking idea of how our economy works.

None.

I think he wants to de-stratify our economy so that it works on a subsistence level so that he can then understand it.

At least McCain had the humility to say he wasn't an expert.

Obama is expert at rhetoric. That is it. Nothing else. Not law. Not the Constitution. Not warfare. Not diplomacy. Not at paying bills (he had a lousy credit rating prior to getting his book money).

And he certainly doesn't understand economics. Not. At. All.

We are all fucked.

If I had the power, I'd plaster what you have written across every newspaper front page, media teleprompter, news website, billboard and radio station in the U.S. He's laughing his way to disaster, the puke.

1126 sneezey  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 10:35:24am

re: #652 HelloDare

This is actually hilarious. It seems pretty innocuous at first, but as you scroll down it gets very funny.

1127 AZDave  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 11:52:44am

You'd be laughing too. He's laughing AT us because he really sold the American people the Mother of all Bill of Goods!

1128 rhythman  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:13:26pm

EAch time I see a car with an obama bumper sticker, I want to ask the driver "Is this the change you expected". This person is President. My G-d, what a bumbling fool.


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