A Creationist Museum in California

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Remember the film “Pee Wee’s Big Adventure,” in which Pee Wee Herman visited a California roadside attraction that featured giant concrete dinosaurs?

Well, that roadside attraction on Highway 10 near Cabazon, formerly known as “Claude Bell’s Dinosaurs,” has now been bought out by fanatics who’ve turned it into a creationist museum.

Long time LGF reader “Ringo the Gringo” visited this place recently, and filed a must-see photo essay at Ringo’s Pictures: The Lion, The Lamb and The Velociraptor - Cabazon, March 2009.

How crazy is it?

Here’s their vision of an 11th century crusader, trying to chase away an angry Tyrannosaurus Rex by throwing rocks at it.

There’s more. This only scratches the surface of the crazy. Read the whole thing…

Ringo sums it up:

I didn’t drag my family all the way out here simply to poke fun at a goofy, creationist roadside attraction. In fact the people who were working at this place were sincerely nice folks. It was also not my intent to ridicule their religion. But still I felt compelled to photograph this place and share the pictures on my website. Why?

The reason is that there are those who would have this type of “creation science” taught in American public schools as part of the science curriculum… And most of the people pushing for this are members of the Republican Party; the party of which I am a member.

States such as Texas and Louisiana have already passed legislation which would allow this type on nonsense to be introduced in to publicly funded schools and promoted as valid “science”, equal to legitimate scientific theories regarding, not only evolution, but also geology, biology, astronomy and even archeology! To me this is beyond embarrassing, it’s a travesty.

The governor of Louisiana, Bobby Jindal, who was selected to give the Republican rebuttal to President Obama’s recent speech before Congress, is a strong proponent of introducing this kind of phony science in public schools. He is also often referred to as “the future of the Republican Party”… Well, if Jindal really is the future of the Party, then it’ll have to be a Party without me.

And so that is why I post these pictures; to offer a little bit of visual proof of the nutty - and clearly religious - ideas that are at the very core of the pseudo-science known as “creation science”.

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929 comments
1 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:02:22pm

Knights Templar hunting a T-Rex! AWESOME!

2 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:03:10pm
Here’s their vision of an 11th century crusader, trying to chase away an angry Tyrannosaurus Rex by throwing rocks at it.

I'm... speechless.

3 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:03:41pm

your father was a hamster...and your mother smelt of elderberries!

4 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:04:14pm

Oh, no.

I remember that place.

It was - back when I was a kid - just a cool little attraction with dinosaurs (my first book of my very own was a guide to dinosaurs), and I liked it.

I think it bored my brother silly, though.

5 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:04:45pm

re: #1 Occasional Reader

Knights Templar hunting a T-Rex! AWESOME!

That's not a Knight Templar. Their tunics were white.

6 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:05:05pm

re: #1 Occasional Reader

Knights Templar hunting a T-Rex! AWESOME!

My money's on Rex.

7 allan5oh  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:06:57pm

Why is it "creationist" museums are always beyond ridiculous?

8 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:07:03pm

What do you mean humans and dinosaurs never co-existed?

I have proof!

9 rightwinger3  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:07:08pm

So that's why the Crusades weren't entirely successful.

10 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:07:26pm

re: #6 jcm

My money's on Rex.

crossbows and broadswords...you may be right

11 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:08:15pm

re: #6 jcm

My money's on Rex.

Which sparks a thought - how exactly then do these folks think the Dsaurs went the way of the troglodyte? My money's on the Rex too...to the point that my money would have been on the marginalization, if not the extinction of the human race! at what pre-gun stage of civilization would we have fought dinosaurs to extinction?

12 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:08:51pm

Aren't some of those creationist kids books ones you found and linked to before, Charles?

13 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:08:54pm

"Did you know? The universe and it's inhabitants are much too complex to be the result of random chance..."

For shame.

14 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:08:55pm

Great work, Ringo!

15 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:09:03pm

Sheer lunacy. Once again, the charlatans have hijacked Christianity to push an agenda. This is not what Christ had in mind when he came to save humanity.

16 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:09:20pm

The dinosaurs have pointy teeth because before the Fall vegetables fought back.

17 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:09:25pm

plane down in Butte....bummer

18 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:09:58pm

re: #15 Jetpilot1101

Sheer lunacy. Once again, the charlatans have hijacked Christianity to push an agenda. This is not what Christ had in mind when he came to save humanity.

amen, brother.

19 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:10:05pm

Pee-Wee brain museum.

20 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:10:15pm

I didn't come from no stinkin' banana!

21 lawhawk  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:10:17pm

Is that one of the knights from Monty Python?

22 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:10:21pm

re: #5 Dianna

That's not a Knight Templar. Their tunics were white.

Oh, work with me here a little.

23 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:10:25pm

they don't know what color dinosaurs are

24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:10:37pm

Have you seen the exhibit that they put in the basement of the Alamo?

25 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:10:37pm

re: #16 jaunte

The dinosaurs have pointy teeth because before the Fall vegetables fought back.

ROFLMAO!

26 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:10:42pm

re: #11 Aceofwhat?

Which sparks a thought - how exactly then do these folks think the Dsaurs went the way of the troglodyte? My money's on the Rex too...to the point that my money would have been on the marginalization, if not the extinction of the human race! at what pre-gun stage of civilization would we have fought dinosaurs to extinction?

Which reminds me of some the latest papers on the extinction of the Mammoth etc... it looks now like climate change and not humans killed them off.

27 lawhawk  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:11:14pm

re: #6 jcm

Bring me... the Holy Hand Grenade.

28 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:11:21pm

re: #12 Sharmuta

Aren't some of those creationist kids books ones you found and linked to before, Charles?

Yes. They're the "Answers in Genesis" textbooks, used to brainwash children.

29 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:12:08pm

I want the dinosaur giving Adam and Eve the 'thumbs-up' as an avatar. I mean this.

30 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:12:28pm
As we wandered down the pathway toward our final destination, the giant T-Rex, I was a bit surprised to see the "rainbow flag" flapping in the wind.

Well, why do you think they became extinct?

31 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:12:35pm
32 Ringo the Gringo  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:13:21pm

Thanks Charles!

33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:13:44pm
34 midwestgak  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:13:52pm

re: #30 Occasional Reader

Well, why do you think they became extinct?

They smoked.

--Gary Larson

35 wiffersnapper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:14:11pm

Only in California can you have rightwing nuts and leftwing nuts having their way all the time.

36 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:14:15pm

Ringo- thank you (and to your wife and daughter for going along).

37 NY Nana  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:14:44pm

re: #32 Ringo the Gringo

Thank you, Ringo! Great work.

How could you take the photos with a straight face?

38 Aye Pod  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:14:51pm

Looks like this place has gone the full Hovind. A 40 million year old cowboy boot? WOW.

39 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:15:35pm

re: #26 jcm

Which reminds me of some the latest papers on the extinction of the Mammoth etc... it looks now like climate change and not humans killed them off.

Ya, caught that too. but i can at least picture how a group of crazy spear guys takes a weak mammoth down. i can't picture how any self-respecting theropod goes down without taking half of william wallace's army down with him...(yes, i'm mixing centuries - templars wore white - we know, we know)

40 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:16:15pm

re: #38 Jimmah

Looks like this place has gone the full Hovind. A 40 million year old cowboy boot? WOW.

Don't tell nyc redneck or she will want to buy it.

/

41 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:16:24pm

Rock? T-Rex?

"Bang a Gong. Get It Off"

42 Gella  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:16:58pm

call is a scifi museium

43 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:17:10pm

re: #39 Aceofwhat?

Ya, caught that too. but i can at least picture how a group of crazy spear guys takes a weak mammoth down. i can't picture how any self-respecting theropod goes down without taking half of william wallace's army down with him...(yes, i'm mixing centuries - templars wore white - we know, we know)

It must be true however!
St. George and the Dragon! What else could explain that historically accurately reported incident?

// ;-P

44 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:18:11pm

re: #41 IslandLibertarian

Rock? T-Rex?

"Bang a Gong. Get It Off"

I was thinking more along the lines of:

You can't fool
the children with the evolution
no-no-no-oo

/apologies to T. Rex's "Children of the Revolution"

45 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:18:22pm

i love that the one poster has the human and ape footprint side by side asking which is human and the arrow pointing to the human footprint.

46 Aye Pod  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:18:35pm

re: #40 Bloodnok

I know there are some real old-timers out there in California - I met some myself last time I was out by Temecula, but this is ridiculous.

47 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:19:12pm

I guess I don't get the point of the canine poster with the banana. Kind of supports evolution and common ancestry, in my opinion. What were they going for there?

48 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:20:04pm

re: #45 phoenixgirl

i love that the one poster has the human and ape footprint side by side asking which is human and the arrow pointing to the human footprint.

That gave me a chuckle too. I'm so glad the arrow was labeled "human". I might have guessed wrong. :p

49 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:20:07pm
While generally reconstructed as primitive and in loin clothes, there is some indication from a picture in a cave [in] Minateda, spain that Cro-Magnon men (and women) wore fitted clothes and styled their hair.


They must have shopped at the Creation Corner Mall.
This is the first time I've seen an explanation that when referring to a particular species, the author needed to explain that "women" should be included when talking about Cro-Magnon man. It just strikes me as juvenile.

50 WriterMom  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:20:16pm

re: #23 phoenixgirl

There is only one Dinosaur and Purple is its colour.

51 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:20:42pm
52 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:20:47pm

re: #48 Sharmuta

That gave me a chuckle too. I'm so glad the arrow was labeled "human". I might have guessed wrong. :p

lol, i didn't get the banana one either

53 Aye Pod  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:21:01pm

re: #47 Sharmuta

And what is it with creationists and bananas?

54 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:21:09pm

If I were a medieval knight going up against a T-Rex I think I'd rather be chucking the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch at it.

55 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:21:21pm

A rainbow flag? That's pretty funny.

56 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:21:22pm

re: #45 phoenixgirl

i love that the one poster has the human and ape footprint side by side asking which is human and the arrow pointing to the human footprint.

Sorry, NOTHING beats the exuberantly gay T-Rex.

57 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:21:30pm

re: #50 WriterMom

There is only one Dinosaur and Purple is its colour.


bj is yellow

58 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:21:42pm

re: #53 Jimmah

And what is it with creationists and bananas?

a slur on their denied monkey cousins?

59 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:21:55pm

re: #48 Sharmuta

That gave me a chuckle too. I'm so glad the arrow was labeled "human". I might have guessed wrong. :p

I don't trust those ID's, so I had to look at my own foot to be sure.............

11 1/2 EEE

60 WriterMom  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:21:55pm

re: #53 Jimmah

Well, you see the Daddy has a bannana and the Mommy has a..oh nevermind....

61 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:22:15pm

re: #16 jaunte

The dinosaurs have pointy teeth because before the Fall vegetables fought back.

I have an lolcat for you.

62 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:22:24pm

what was with the rainbow flag?

63 WriterMom  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:22:35pm

re: #56 Occasional Reader

DUH-you asked about extinction. Obviously the dinosaurs went "rainbow"...and there was a baby bust.

64 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:22:35pm
65 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:22:47pm

re: #53 Jimmah

And what is it with creationists and bananas?

Potassium deficiency?

66 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:22:49pm

re: #47 Sharmuta

I guess I don't get the point of the canine poster with the banana. Kind of supports evolution and common ancestry, in my opinion. What were they going for there?

I think that one was talking about the simplistic notion of "kinds."
Dog-like "kinds" don't look like a banana, therefore evolution is false.
At least that's my interpretation.

67 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:23:01pm

re: #43 jcm

I
St. George and the Dragon! What else could explain that historically accurately reported incident?

// ;-P

Total mistranslation. Didn't you see the rainbow flag? It wasn't a "dragon". It was "in drag".

68 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:23:06pm

The meaning behind the creationist banana:

69 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:23:06pm

I wonder if any of those "Knights Temporary" was named Thag?

70 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:23:24pm

re: #53 Jimmah

And what is it with creationists and bananas?

It's what they are.

71 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:23:24pm

re: #43 jcm

It must be true however!
St. George and the Dragon! What else could explain that historically accurately reported incident?

// ;-P

the only thing between that statement and pure, unadulterated funny is that somewhere people said what you said, only with EUREKA! at the end...Mere de Dieu...

72 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:23:36pm

A. Biology
B. Physics
C. Chemistry
D. Genetics
E. Intelligent Design

Which one is not like the others? A child can tell you!

73 WriterMom  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:23:49pm

re: #67 Occasional Reader

So, where is the panel on the transgendered, and "questioning" dinos?

74 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:04pm

re: #61 Sharmuta

Up hai!

75 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:05pm

re: #60 WriterMom

Well, you see the Daddy has a bannana and the Mommy has a..oh nevermind....

a hot chili?

Image: fruit_sex_5.jpg

76 Egregious Philbin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:10pm

Do they think "The Flintstones" was a documentary?

A sad state of education these days, the flaunting of ignorance like this is just sad.

77 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:14pm

re: #68 Charles

Oh brother. I should have known.

78 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:37pm

re: #71 Aceofwhat?

the only thing between that statement and pure, unadulterated funny is that somewhere people said what you said, only with EUREKA! at the end...Mere de Dieu...

Which in a wonderfully sick, and twisted way makes it even funnier.

79 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:37pm

re: #32 Ringo the Gringo

Great report, Ringo. Sad that they turned that place into such a freak show.

80 WriterMom  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:41pm

I'm not clicking ANY YouTube videos on this thread.

81 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:24:48pm

re: #31 buzzsawmonkey

Knights of the Templars
Scaring off a T-Rex
Lots of dinosaurs
Shown out of context
Creationist nonsense
Shown by the roadside
Which online lizards
Are pleased to deride...

--with apologies to the Moody Blues

Which Moody Blues song did you use as a template? I think I know the the song, but its name escapes me.

82 mfarmer1  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:25:02pm

re: #1 Occasional Reader

Knights Templar hunting a T-Rex! AWESOME!

Yes, the T-Rex part of why Friday the 13th is viewed as bad luck has been sorely left out of the history books.

83 purple  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:25:14pm

re: #50 WriterMom

There is only one Dinosaur and Purple is its colour.

I love you
You love me
We're a happy family

84 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:25:17pm

re: #76 Egregious Philbin

Do they think "The Flintstones" was a documentary?

A sad state of education these days, the flaunting of ignorance like this is just sad.

Hmmm, I wonder if we could "find" fossil evidence of Fred's car........

85 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:25:25pm

re: #68 Charles

The meaning behind the creationist banana:


I'd love him to hold and explain a cobra in the exact same way.

86 ErnieG  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:25:28pm

re: #76 Egregious Philbin

Do they think "The Flintstones" was a documentary?

You mean it wasn't?

//

87 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:25:29pm

re: #56 Occasional Reader

Sorry, NOTHING beats the exuberantly gay T-Rex.

Trannysaurus Rex?

88 Aye Pod  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:25:36pm

re: #47 Sharmuta

I guess I don't get the point of the canine poster with the banana. Kind of supports evolution and common ancestry, in my opinion. What were they going for there?

I suspect it might be to do with Hovinds argument about 'kinds' as opposed to species - the idea being that there may be millions of species but fewer 'kinds'. IIRC it was part of an effort to show that the entire animal kingdom could have been crammed on to the ark. It's got a real Hovind feel to it, this place.

89 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:25:55pm

re: #68 Charles

The meaning behind the creationist banana:


[Video]

hahaha!...oh man

90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:25:57pm

re: #68 Charles

My kids (who I raised as Christian) came to me about 10 years ago, and said, "You've gotta see this... What are these people thinking?"

91 WriterMom  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:26:07pm

re: #83 purple

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

92 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:26:35pm
93 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:26:59pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

I think it's Nights in White Satin. Not sure If I spelled right though.

94 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:27:01pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

I'm... speechless.

I'm not. This is really getting annoying. It's one thing to teach your kids about the Bible and raise them in the Christian faith; it's another thing entirely to delude them into thinking that established science is a load of crap. What bothers me the most about these people is the way they twist the words of scripture to fit their specific agenda. They take an almighty God, jam Him into their created construct and then try to ram it down everyone's throat. I really don't care what they believe, it's a free country and they are free to worship a potted plant if they so desire. I am deeply offended that they continue to use my faith and my God to push a flawed approach to a marvelous universe and then call me a backslidden Christian because I refuse to constrain God with human understanding. I don't have all the answers but they don't either and to suggest that they do is insulting to me and thousands of Christians.

95 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:27:06pm

re: #54 Colonel Panik

If I were a medieval knight going up against a T-Rex I think I'd rather be chucking the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch at it.

Seems kinda light. I'd rather have the Pope provide me with a Canonical LAW.

96 WriterMom  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:27:08pm

re: #87 Colonel Panik

LOL. Fabulous/

97 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:27:21pm

re: #68 Charles

Is kirk Cameron an IDer?

98 WriterMom  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:27:44pm

re: #92 buzzsawmonkey

I find that song so dark.

99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:27:54pm

re: #92 buzzsawmonkey

yeah. I didn't know either. Thanks. Funny!

100 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:28:22pm

re: #92 buzzsawmonkey

"Knights in White Satin"

One of my mother's favorite Moody Blues songs. I always preferred "In Your Wildest Dreams" myself.

101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:28:34pm

re: #97 pingjockey

Is kirk Cameron an IDer?

Totally cashing in on all things Christian.

102 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:28:35pm

Nights etc

103 ErnieG  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:28:37pm

re: #95 Occasional Reader

Seems kinda light. I'd rather have the Pope provide me with a Canonical LAW.

Or blow him away with a canon.

104 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:29:04pm

re: #95 Occasional Reader

Seems kinda light. I'd rather have the Pope provide me with a Canonical LAW.

LOL!

105 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:29:07pm

re: #97 pingjockey

Check him out here:
[Link: www.intelligentdesignversusevolution.com...]

106 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:29:09pm

re: #68 Charles

What's funny is the banana is a domesticated plant.

107 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:29:17pm

re: #95 Occasional Reader

Seems kinda light. I'd rather have the Pope provide me with a Canonical LAW.

Personally I'd go with tried and true Javelin!

108 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:29:22pm

re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, when you're a has been actor ya have to do something!

109 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:29:24pm

Rongo's site is still up but loading very slowly.

110 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:29:37pm

re: #54 Colonel Panik

If I were a medieval knight going up against a T-Rex I think I'd rather be chucking the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch at it.

I'd rather have 6 to 8 million years separating me from that critter.

/the behemoth was the elephant, hence, ID is not republican............

111 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:29:37pm

re: #92 buzzsawmonkey

"KnightsNights in White Satin"

You've got Templars on the brain.

112 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:30:03pm

re: #94 Jetpilot1101

A million updings.

113 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:30:03pm

re: #106 Sharmuta

What's funny is the banana is a domesticated plant.


the only thing funny about at banana is when someone slips on the peal

114 WriterMom  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:30:03pm

Oy...getting sleeeeeeeeepy....

115 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:30:10pm
116 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:30:23pm

re: #107 jcm
M1A1 tank loaded with sabot rounds would do nicely too.

117 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:30:24pm

I happen to think Pee Wee's Big Adventure was one of the funniest movies ever. In my top 20 anyway. There are so many classic scenes. I've watched that movie at least a dozen times.

118 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:30:28pm

re: #106 Sharmuta

What's funny is the banana is a domesticated plant.

I think you're just choosing to ignore that the peel folds right over your hand. RIGHT OVER YOUR HAND!

119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:30:33pm

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

One of my mother's favorite Moody Blues songs. I always preferred "In Your Wildest Dreams" myself.

Embarrassed to admit it; me too...

120 rawmuse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:30:55pm

Thinking if I have ever seen this place during my travels. Undoubted some places like it. Or, maybe it was the old Sinclair station. Do they still have those?

121 Aye Pod  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:31:07pm

re: #65 Gus 802

Potassium deficiency?

Well, potassium has an important role in brain function, so you could actually be on to something there.

122 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:31:16pm

re: #118 Bloodnok
Totally frakkin' amazing!

123 EaterOfFood  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:31:18pm

Do you still get a discount if you tell 'em Large Marge sent ya?

124 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:31:54pm

re: #121 Jimmah

Well, potassium has an important role in brain function, so you could actually be on to something there.

Maybe they should eat more bananas. Helps control the heart rate too.

125 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:32:05pm

Moody Blues encore....every gig....they rocked a little

126 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:32:11pm

re: #123 EaterOfFood

Francis reminds me of AL Gore.

127 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:32:20pm

re: #117 Mich-again

I happen to think Pee Wee's Big Adventure was one of the funniest movies ever. In my top 20 anyway. There are so many classic scenes. I've watched that movie at least a dozen times.


i'm not quite the same fan, but the movie reference and the subject at hand do seem to deserve each other, at least on an (un)intellectual level

128 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:32:21pm

re: #124 Gus 802
Good for muscle cramps too.

129 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:32:26pm

Here's the video for my favorite Moody Blues song. Its a lot more 80's, but that's in keeping with my tastes.

130 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:32:29pm

re: #118 Bloodnok

Oh yeah? Atheists nightmare debunked:

131 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:32:42pm

re: #66 jaunte


I think

"80% of the DNA is the same"


from memory and I am not making that claim, I do not remember the percentage. I do not know if the talking point is correct

132 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:32:45pm

re: #94 Jetpilot1101

I'm not. This is really getting annoying. It's one thing to teach your kids about the Bible and raise them in the Christian faith; it's another thing entirely to delude them into thinking that established science is a load of crap. What bothers me the most about these people is the way they twist the words of scripture to fit their specific agenda. They take an almighty God, jam Him into their created construct and then try to ram it down everyone's throat. I really don't care what they believe, it's a free country and they are free to worship a potted plant if they so desire. I am deeply offended that they continue to use my faith and my God to push a flawed approach to a marvelous universe and then call me a backslidden Christian because I refuse to constrain God with human understanding. I don't have all the answers but they don't either and to suggest that they do is insulting to me and thousands of Christians.

DING DING DING

133 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:33:42pm

re: #47 Sharmuta

Check out this Tasmanian wolf: Image: Tasmainian_wolf.jpg

Banana, kangaroo, or dog?

134 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:33:47pm

re: #127 Aceofwhat?

Its a Tim Burton movie. You either get it or you don't kind of humor.

135 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:33:51pm

O/T, a new list of things Saudi clerics want banned....
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

136 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:34:03pm

re: #43 jcm

It must be true however!
St. George and the Dragon! What else could explain that historically accurately reported incident?

// ;-P

I like the story of Krak and the dragon of Wawel hill. Krak was a Polish shoemaker (the city of Krakow is named for him) who tricked the dragon into eating roasted sheep stuffed with very hot spices and smeared with sulfur paste. The dragon developed terminal indigestion.

137 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:34:11pm

re: #133 jaunte
Marsupial!

138 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:34:18pm

re: #109 Killgore Trout

He's getting the traffic spike from hell.

139 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:35:04pm

so, when does the hurdy gurdy man come in singing songs of love......?

140 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:35:27pm

re: #135 CapeCoddah

A group of Saudi clerics urged the kingdom's new information minister on Sunday to ban women from appearing on TV or in newspapers and magazines, making clear that the country's hardline religious establishment is skeptical of a new push toward moderation.

So, Pr0n on the internet is still OK?

141 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:35:36pm

re: #135 CapeCoddah
I expect to hear howls of outrage from NOW in ...3...2...1....crickets.

142 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:35:47pm

re: #115 buzzsawmonkey

That's because I'm Simon-pure.

You know, you're really a knight Hugues Payens in the ass sometimes.

143 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:35:48pm

re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Embarrassed to admit it; me too...

I love " In your wildest dreams". But in the early 70's, I played the album, "Days of Future Past" over and over, while smoking...stuff.

144 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:35:55pm

re: #136 Colonel Panik

I like the story of Krak and the dragon of Wawel hill. Krak was a Polish shoemaker (the city of Krakow is named for him) who tricked the dragon into eating roasted sheep stuffed with very hot spices and smeared with sulfur paste. The dragon developed terminal indigestion.

See! More irrefutable evidence!

//

That's a great story!

145 Aye Pod  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:36:23pm

The Sopranos on creationism:

"T-Rex in the garden of Eden? No way! Adam and eve would be running around scared shitless"

146 CapeCoddah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:36:29pm

re: #140 Mich-again

So, Pr0n on the internet is still OK?

Only if there are no women...

147 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:36:38pm

re: #140 Mich-again
Only as long as you are a mad mullah or a male in the royal family.

148 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:36:58pm

re: #128 pingjockey

Good for muscle cramps too.

I got a brain cramp from watching that banana video.

//

149 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:37:01pm

re: #94 Jetpilot1101

I'm not. This is really getting annoying. It's one thing to teach your kids about the Bible and raise them in the Christian faith; it's another thing entirely to delude them into thinking that established science is a load of crap. What bothers me the most about these people is the way they twist the words of scripture to fit their specific agenda. They take an almighty God, jam Him into their created construct and then try to ram it down everyone's throat. I really don't care what they believe, it's a free country and they are free to worship a potted plant if they so desire. I am deeply offended that they continue to use my faith and my God to push a flawed approach to a marvelous universe and then call me a backslidden Christian because I refuse to constrain God with human understanding. I don't have all the answers but they don't either and to suggest that they do is insulting to me and thousands of Christians.


insulting to us? sure, but how about the insult to God? look at the messed-up planet they think we had going on around here about 800-ish years ago! that was divine creation? sheesh

150 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:37:13pm

'Aceofwhat', love the nickname.

151 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:37:35pm

re: #148 Gus 802
Kirk and his buddy there are brain cramps!

152 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:38:14pm

....must be the season of the witch.....

153 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:38:43pm

re: #151 pingjockey

Kirk and his buddy there are brain cramps Farts!

Fixed

154 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:38:47pm

re: #143 BatGuano

I love " In your wildest dreams". But in the early 70's, I played the album, "Days of Future Past" over and over, while smoking...stuff.

just incredible live when they nailed it....far far better than their records

155 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:38:54pm

re: #152 WindHorse

Donovan Link?

156 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:39:12pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon
Muchos grassy ass.

157 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:39:42pm
158 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:39:43pm

re: #152 WindHorse

....must be the season of the witch.....

While Michelle Obama is First Lady, every season is the Season of the Witch.

159 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:39:55pm

re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Totally cashing in on all things Christian.

Cashing in is right. I would say that majority of these movements like the YEC isn't about "faith" as much as it is a way of generating revenue or making a living.

160 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:40:15pm

re: #150 MrPaulRevere

'Aceofwhat', love the nickname.

you're too kind. i have no idea what it means. this is my first night posting - been all over the site for 5 friggin years and only a few days ago did i catch Charles in mid-registration. i had no name handy and don't know what i consider myself the ace of (sarcasm, maybe?) so i went literal...

161 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:40:31pm

Any BSG fans here? What would IDers do if intelligent, self aware machines showed up?!

162 chicagodudewhotrades  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:40:32pm

Speaking of clueless people......... I hit the downtown gym today to get in my swimming. It was a nice day so I decided to walk east over to Michigan Ave. and then walk down it. In front of the Art Institute was a sad gathering of about 5/6 anti-war types with their peace signs and what not. I'm on the west side of Michigan Ave.waiting for the light to change and take a closer look the peace-niks. 1 of the protesters on my side of the street was about to hand me some flyer when he looked at my face. I didn't give him a mean look, but it was one of those 'leave me alone' looks. That plus the fact that i had a camo bookbag over my shoulder (to carry my gym gear) and a short haircut (my hair isn't military short anymore, but close enough) caused him to back away from me and try to hand pamphlets to others. I have looked at Zombie's photo essays before of all those Berkeley/ anti-war protesters and I never really believed that some people could be that clueless. Yep, people ARE that clueless. When I got over the the Art Institute side of the street I looked over all the signs and banners. "peace for Palestinians' 'social justice for all' 'say no to war' 'war is not the answer' etc etc etc. The good thing is that no one else walking by was really paying attention to them Anyway, it was a nice day here and I had a good walk home

163 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:40:49pm

....sure is strange....

164 albusteve  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:40:54pm

re: #152 WindHorse

....must be the season of the witch.....

here it is amigo

165 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:41:09pm

re: #155 BatGuano

Ok. I'll do it.

166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:42:37pm

re: #159 Gus 802

Cashing in is right. I would say that majority of these movements like the YEC isn't about "faith" as much as it is a way of generating revenue or making a living.

What can I believe in today to get me a few grand.

My friends say I'm cynical. Hurt my feelings.

G'night.

167 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:43:38pm

re: #149 Aceofwhat?

I do find it insulting to God more than it's an insult to anyone else. When I read a science book or watch a science program- I'm amazed at the sheer wonder of our world and universe and it leaves me in more awe of God's magnificence. By rejecting science, it's my opinion these folks are throwing away the ability to appreciate God fully, and worse- they reduce and deny Him. Now that's insulting.

168 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:44:12pm

re: #165 BatGuano

Ok. I'll do it.


[Video]

Donovan, Mellow Yellow, bananas, yellow bananas!

It's a yellow conspiracy!

//

169 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:44:44pm

re: #167 Sharmuta

as eloquent as ever!

170 Racer X  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:44:44pm

Just watched the Obama interview on 60 minutes.

Puff Piece.

171 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:44:55pm

re: #167 Sharmuta

I do find it insulting to God more than it's an insult to anyone else. When I read a science book or watch a science program- I'm amazed at the sheer wonder of our world and universe and it leaves me in more awe of God's magnificence. By rejecting science, it's my opinion these folks are throwing away the ability to appreciate God fully, and worse- they reduce and deny Him. Now that's insulting.

Agreed. And when they get caught out by facts they can't explain away, they "lie for Jesus", an oxymoron if every there was one.

172 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:45:14pm

re: #168 Gus 802

I thought Donovan sang about electrical bananas.

173 cronus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:45:15pm

re: #9 rightwinger3

So that's why the Crusades weren't entirely successful.

Saladin had an auxiliary force of giant bipedal carnivores? Including that would've greatly improved Kingdom of Heaven.

174 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:45:28pm

re: #170 Racer X

Just watched the Obama interview on 60 minutes.

Puff Piece.

How many times did he say his buzzwords?

175 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:45:29pm

re: #170 Racer X

Just watched the Obama interview on 60 minutes.

Puff Piece.

Figures. Axerod probably had Kroft ask him that punch-drunk question.

176 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:45:34pm

re: #167 Sharmuta

I do find it insulting to God more than it's an insult to anyone else. When I read a science book or watch a science program- I'm amazed at the sheer wonder of our world and universe and it leaves me in more awe of God's magnificence. By rejecting science, it's my opinion these folks are throwing away the ability to appreciate God fully, and worse- they reduce and deny Him. Now that's insulting.

My question for them is why do accept God, but reject His Creation.

The Bible makes clear creation is a testament to God. Yet they reject creation in favor of their opinion, what they think God would do.

177 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:46:11pm

re: #167 Sharmuta

Outstanding, simply outstanding. I wanna be like you when I grow up.

178 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:46:44pm

For the Arrested Development fans... the Banana Stand inspired song:

179 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:46:48pm

Just an odd thought.

Dinosaurs are related to birds........

Can you imagine a T-Rex drumstick at Thanksgiving?

180 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:47:04pm

We have our first down-dinger.

181 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:47:18pm

re: #172 Mich-again

I thought Donovan sang about electrical bananas.

Ah, the REAL conspiracy. Something about LSD in bananas?

People say the darndest things.

182 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:47:58pm

re: #177 MrPaulRevere

You are so sweet, {Archie}.

183 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:48:21pm

re: #168 Gus 802

Mellow Yellow, Sunshine Superman, Season of the witch, my childhood.

184 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:48:27pm

re: #170 Racer X

I just watched it too and missed the "punch drunk" part.

185 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:48:34pm

re: #172 Mich-again

I thought Donovan sang about electrical bananas.

Electrical banana
Is gonna be a sudden craze.
Electrical banana
Is bound to be the very next phase.

/set off a very strange procedure for those seeking "altered states".

186 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:48:38pm

re: #180 Charles

We have our first down-dinger.

Does The One Who Sucks have any comments? I didn't see any.

187 Viking6  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:48:41pm

re: #94 Jetpilot1101

I am not usually a participant in these discussions as I am pretty private in my thoughts about G_D and Man but I got to say that this stuff is really getting to be about as bad as the jihadists hijacking Islam for their evil purposes.

188 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:48:48pm

re: #167 Sharmuta

I do find it insulting to God more than it's an insult to anyone else. When I read a science book or watch a science program- I'm amazed at the sheer wonder of our world and universe and it leaves me in more awe of God's magnificence. By rejecting science, it's my opinion these folks are throwing away the ability to appreciate God fully, and worse- they reduce and deny Him. Now that's insulting.


exactly what i was saying...only you said it better

189 mfarmer1  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:48:53pm

The GOP needs to officially break with these young Earth nutcases. They can go ahead and form the

Forgo
Reason
End
All
Knowledge

party.

190 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:48:55pm

Excellent expose, Ringo.

And I see, yet again, I must defend against more creationist slander.

I do not, nor have I ever, eaten grass, as an ox or otherwise. It's strange how these stories get handed down over the millennia and get distorted in the process.

What really happened all those centuries ago? The Behemoth did not "eateth grass as an ox", I "smokethed grass from an axe". Get it right!
///

191 carefulnow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:49:02pm

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

192 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:49:44pm

re: #191 carefulnow

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

That's an interesting question.

I have no idea.

193 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:49:52pm

re: #179 jcm

Just an odd thought.

Dinosaurs are related to birds........

Can you imagine a T-Rex drumstick at Thanksgiving?

tastes like chicken!

194 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:50:10pm

re: #191 carefulnow

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

As long as the carbon is home by 11 the scientists don't mind.

195 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:50:11pm

re: #191 carefulnow

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

Carbon dating. They frown on it. Even if you use a condom.

196 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:50:21pm

re: #179 jcm

That'd feed a lot of those starving pygmies larry the cable guy is always talking about!

197 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:50:26pm

re: #191 carefulnow

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

I forgot the specifics but they don't "believe" in carbon dating.

198 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:50:32pm

re: #179 jcm

Just an odd thought.

Dinosaurs are related to birds........

Can you imagine a T-Rex drumstick at Thanksgiving?

Mmmm... it's Jurassilicious....

199 carefulnow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:50:53pm

re: #194 Bloodnok

I just knew as soon as I hit post, I'd get a smartass comment like yours. ;)

200 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:51:00pm

re: #191 carefulnow

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

it works - see "40-million year old cowboy hat" referenced near the top of the thread!

201 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:51:12pm

re: #191 carefulnow

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

WITCHCRAFT!

202 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:51:19pm

re: #191 carefulnow
It is a lie.

203 Colonel Panik  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:51:19pm

re: #179 jcm

Just an odd thought.

Dinosaurs are related to birds........

Can you imagine a T-Rex drumstick at Thanksgiving?

I figure you'd need a 55 gallon drum full of BBQ sauce.

204 carefulnow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:51:31pm

re: #197 Gus 802

Of course.

205 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:51:39pm

Who is the downdinger and what's the Auto box next to new comments do?

206 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:51:41pm

re: #191 carefulnow

They generally accept it but it has an upper limit of about 40,000 years.

207 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:51:44pm

re: #191 carefulnow

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

It's flawed.....

The thing is C14 dating only goes back 50k years. To date other things you have to use a radio isotope with an half range that lies in the target samples estimated age.

208 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:52:07pm

re: #201 IslandLibertarian

WITCHCRAFT!

Carbon dating is atheistic and can only lead to homosexuality and shop lifting!

///

209 Racer X  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:52:16pm

Book recommendation -

A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (And Pathetic) Story of the Torrid Romance Between Barack Obama and the Mainstream Media
by Bernard Goldberg

If anyone you know has any questions on why Obama was elected, and how his election has absolutely nothing to do with his qualifications, please buy them a copy of this book.

Goldberg totally dismantles the MSM and their blatant cover-up of Obama's questionable past in the days leading up to the election.

210 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:52:25pm

re: #201 IslandLibertarian

WITCHCRAFT!

she turned me into a newt!

211 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:52:37pm

I wonder if Charles sits at home putting up an ID thread here and there just so we get a fresh supply of "Bottom Comments" !

212 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:52:41pm

re: #110 IslandLibertarian

/the behemoth was the elephant...

First of all, that's a proper noun. I'll thank you to capitalize.

Second of all, just because I'm late to the thread doesn't mean you can start cracking fat jokes at my expense.
////

213 WindHorse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:52:49pm

my ex-wife laughed too much.....

214 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:52:50pm

re: #191 carefulnow

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

They willing get Carbon Dating wrong. They say its only accurate for about 4000-6000 years, when the actual dating range is 60,000 years.

215 ErnieG  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:52:58pm

re: #210 Aceofwhat?

she turned me into a newt!

But you got better?

216 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:53:05pm

re: #211 sattv4u2

Yes.

217 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:53:17pm

Read a sci-fi short story. Dude invents time machine, snags dino of some sort, the meat is basically addicting like chocolate, opens franchises every where, makes a billion dollars.

218 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:53:29pm

re: #167 Sharmuta

I do find it insulting to God more than it's an insult to anyone else. When I read a science book or watch a science program- I'm amazed at the sheer wonder of our world and universe and it leaves me in more awe of God's magnificence. By rejecting science, it's my opinion these folks are throwing away the ability to appreciate God fully, and worse- they reduce and deny Him. Now that's insulting.

The more scientists discover of the intricacies that is creation the more awe-inspiring it is. The complexity of even a simple leaf with all the capillaries, the chlorophyll, the DNA, etc.

219 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:53:45pm

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

They willing get Carbon Dating wrong. They say its only accurate for about 4000-6000 years, when the actual dating range is 60,000 years.

Something about diamonds and radiation right? Easy enough to look up I suppose.

220 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:54:02pm

re: #215 ErnieG

But you got better?

but she's got a wart...

221 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:54:25pm

re: #220 Aceofwhat?

but she's got a wart...

she's got a what?

222 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:54:39pm

re: #191 carefulnow

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

They claim it's flawed, of course. Never mind that there are other means by which to verify the dates of old artifacts....

223 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:54:48pm

re: #209 Racer X

Thanks. I'm going to be laid up for a few days and I think I'll order that in.
Unless it raises your blood pressure... Does it?

I really enjoyed Bias.

224 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:54:56pm

re: #205 J.D.

Who is the downdinger and what's the Auto box next to new comments do?

It makes cookies.

225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:55:27pm

re: #167 Sharmuta

Yeah; I'm still up. That was not only well written; it was lovely.

226 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:55:29pm

re: #224 Sharmuta

It makes cookies.

Oatmeal raisin, I hope.

227 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:55:38pm

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

They willing get Carbon Dating wrong. They say its only accurate for about 4000-6000 years, when the actual dating range is 60,000 years.

They would have to be able to dismiss all isotope dating, and the Quantum physics that undergirds isotope dating.

Not only do they reject the magnum opus of Evolutionary Biology, but that of Quantum Physics, Astrophysics, and virtually every branch of science.

228 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:55:47pm

re: #205 J.D.

Who is the downdinger and what's the Auto box next to new comments do?

It's for those that can't drive a manual!

229 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:55:58pm

re: #191 carefulnow

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

They reject any science that contradicts their preconceived notions of what is reality.

230 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:55:59pm

re: #211 sattv4u2

I wonder if Charles sits at home putting up an ID thread here and there just so we get a fresh supply of "Bottom Comments" !

Why? avanti and Mr Sandman do just fine on 0bama threads.

231 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:55:59pm

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

They willing get Carbon Dating wrong. They say its only accurate for about 4000-6000 years, when the actual dating range is 60,000 years.

6,000 years. How convenient. That's how old the young earthies think the Earth is.

232 JohnAdams  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:56:05pm

Here's a possible solvent for religious folks who are intelligent enough to believe in science. Isn't it possible that the universe is the awakening consciousness of God and that eons of time to us are like hours to us? The idea of evolution only furthers my belief in God. If it only furthers the atheism of others, I really don't care.

233 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:56:13pm

re: #226 J.D.

Oatmeal raisin, I hope.

White Chocolate Macadamia nut.......

234 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:56:14pm

re: #68 Charles

The meaning behind the creationist banana:

First of all you force him to drop the banana. Then, second, you eat the banana...thus disarming him.

You have now rendered him 'elpless.

235 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:56:21pm

re: #211 sattv4u2

I wonder if Charles sits at home putting up an ID thread here and there just so we get a fresh supply of "Bottom Comments" !

We haven't had any troll show up here yet, and I've hungry. Come on, Hoover, you down-dinger, show yourself! I want to roast your Gamey Buttocks!

236 carefulnow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:56:56pm

re: #207 jcm

Huh. What do they think of URANIUM-THORIUM DATING?

237 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:56:57pm

re: #221 sattv4u2

she's got a what?

sorry...the whole nights of Ni thing on the front page has me going too far down the monty python road, and i think i'm wandering alone now...

238 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:57:40pm

re: #212 Slumbering Behemoth

First of all, that's a proper noun. I'll thank you to capitalize.

Second of all, just because I'm late to the thread doesn't mean you can start cracking fat jokes at my expense.
////

the biblical behemoth is the elephant. When I think of a Slumbering Behemoth, I think of Jabba the Hut...........or is it reference to the famous quote by the Japanese naval admiral after Dec. 7, 1941. I always get confused with "Behemoths".

239 carefulnow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:57:43pm

re: #222 Sharmuta

Exactly so. What do they think of the other methods then? Do you know?

240 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:57:57pm

re: #231 HelloDare

6,000 years. How convenient. That's how old the young earthies think the Earth is.

If you can't pervert science into being a circular proof for your religious dogma what good is it?

241 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:57:58pm

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

Hoover, you down-dinger

That sucks!

242 Emerald  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:58:07pm

Yes, because the artists from the ancient Egyptians, the classical Greeks and Romans, through the Middle Ages all include T. Rex and other dinosaurs in their poems, literature, statues and other artwork.

It just staggers me how much out of touch with reality you have to be to believe this nonsense.

243 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:58:09pm

re: #227 jcm

They would have to be able to dismiss all isotope dating, and the Quantum physics that undergirds isotope dating.

Not only do they reject the magnum opus of Evolutionary Biology, but that of Quantum Physics, Astrophysics, and virtually every branch of science.

Exactly so! They oppose anything that interferes with their narrow interpretation of the Bible. Remind you of anyone?

244 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:58:34pm

re: #237 Aceofwhat?

sorry...the whole nights of Ni thing on the front page has me going too far down the monty python road, and i think i'm wandering alone now...

Knights of Ni. sheesh.

245 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:58:41pm

re: #241 sattv4u2


Hoover, you down-dinger

That sucks!

I prefer an Dyson

246 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:58:45pm

re: #236 carefulnow

Huh. What do they think of URANIUM-THORIUM DATING?

RE-JEC-TED out of hand since it contradicts their religious dogma.

247 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:58:58pm

re: #228 sattv4u2

It's for those that can't drive a manual!

Cute.

Seriously...what does it do?

248 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:59:15pm

re: #236 carefulnow

Huh. What do they think of URANIUM-THORIUM DATING?

They're not too happy about it. Thorium is Jewish.

249 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:59:27pm

re: #236 carefulnow

Huh. What do they think of URANIUM-THORIUM DATING?

They're dating? Wow, last I heard Uranium-Lead still had a thing going!

/////

250 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:59:35pm

re: #247 J.D.

Cute.

Seriously...what does it do?

Turn it on and wait 10 seconds. Seriously.

251 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:59:40pm

re: #246 FurryOldGuyJeans

RE-JEC-TED out of hand since it contradicts their religious dogma.


I didn;t know dogs were religious!

252 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:59:48pm

Young earth creationists and Carbon-14 "dating" of diamonds

253 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 7:59:48pm

re: #191 carefulnow

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

They think it is as accurate as a sundial in a snowstorm.

254 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:00:15pm

re: #15 Jetpilot1101

Sheer lunacy. Once again, the charlatans have hijacked Christianity to push an agenda. This is not what Christ had in mind when he came to save humanity.

My understanding is that the deal is salvation, not freedom from silly ideas.

255 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:00:35pm

re: #247 J.D.

Cute.

Seriously...what does it do?

auto refreshes comments every 10 seconds,, no need to hit "new comments" if you have the auto box checked

256 carefulnow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:00:54pm

re: #246 FurryOldGuyJeans

Sorry for the all caps.

257 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:01:01pm

re: #245 sattv4u2

I prefer an Dyson

A Dyson Sphere would be cool. ;)

258 lawhawk  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:01:06pm

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

And scientists use various forms of radiometric dating other than carbon dating to determine ages of materials beyond the range of C14 dating.

259 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:01:09pm

Hey Hoover! Use your language ability and make an argument to support your position.

260 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:01:12pm

re: #233 jcm

White Chocolate Macadamia nut.......

From your capitalization of it, clearly your favorite.

Can you carbon date one?

261 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:01:12pm

re: #242 Emerald

Yes, because the artists from the ancient Egyptians, the classical Greeks and Romans, through the Middle Ages all include T. Rex and other dinosaurs in their poems, literature, statues and other artwork.

It just staggers me how much out of touch with reality you have to be to believe this nonsense.

SO on target. we're 200 posts in and all we have to show for it are St. George and Krak of Krakow fame as the only two dinosaur killers? What a fantastic coincidence that Caesar never bumped into a velociraptor or two...although i guess he was a homebody...

262 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:01:31pm

The Free Republic crowd is already ranting away about this post:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

263 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:01:32pm

re: #20 Bloodnok

I didn't come from no stinkin' banana!

Wait, are they talking about the banana because they don't want to share DNA with it? Didn't they watch Sesame Street? Sharing is good.

264 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:01:37pm

re: #257 FurryOldGuyJeans

A Dyson Sphere would be cool. ;)

We just got one. My kid now LOVES to vacuum!

265 carefulnow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:01:44pm

re: #249 jcm

sheesh

266 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:01:44pm

re: #242 Emerald

Yes, because the artists from the ancient Egyptians, the classical Greeks and Romans, through the Middle Ages all include T. Rex and other dinosaurs in their poems, literature, statues and other artwork.

It just staggers me how much out of touch with reality you have to be to believe this nonsense.


Every culture has dragons.

267 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:02:13pm

re: #259 jaunte

Hey Hoover! Use your language ability and make an argument to support your position.

sitting?

268 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:02:21pm

re: #260 J.D.

From your capitalization of it, clearly your favorite.

Can you carbon date one?

The half life of a White Chocolate Macadamia Nut cookie is measure in nanoseconds.........

269 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:02:39pm

re: #250 Bloodnok

Turn it on and wait 10 seconds. Seriously.

re: #255 sattv4u2

auto refreshes comments every 10 seconds,, no need to hit "new comments" if you have the auto box checked

Thanks!

What will he think of next?

270 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:02:51pm

re: #244 Aceofwhat?

Knights of Ni. sheesh.

He owes us a Shrubbery.

271 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:02:57pm

re: #267 sattv4u2

I guess if his dinger is down, he won't want to talk about it.

272 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:02:57pm

Troofers: those who believe 9-11 was an inside job
Nirthers: those who believe Obama isn't a US citizen
Earthers: those who believe the earth is roughly 6000 years old

I wonder what a convention with all three groups represented would be like and would Zombie dare to cover it?

273 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:03:04pm

re: #258 lawhawk

And scientists use various forms of radiometric dating other than carbon dating to determine ages of materials beyond the range of C14 dating.

Yes, but the creationists will insist that Satan put those particles in the fossils to test people's faith.

/I wish I was kidding

274 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:03:10pm

re: #265 carefulnow

sheesh

Sorry too many physics and math classes..... causes brain damage.....

275 mattm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:03:27pm

I think we killed his server.

276 Ward Cleaver  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:03:48pm

Are we sure this isn't near Hooterville?

/uncle joe, the douglases

277 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:04:00pm

re: #259 jaunte

Hey Hoover! Use your language ability and make an argument to support your position.

He just mastered the mouse, he'll be able to handle a keyboard in the next decade or so.

278 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:04:13pm

re: #276 Ward Cleaver

Are we sure this isn't near Hooterville?

/uncle joe, the douglases

Arnold Ziffle.

279 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:04:51pm

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

They willing get Carbon Dating wrong. They say its only accurate for about 4000-6000 years, when the actual dating range is 60,000 years.

This site claims Carbon dating proves a young earth because of the flood or some other nonsense.

Carbon dating.

280 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:04:55pm

re: #273 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but the creationists will insist that Satan put those particles in the fossils to test people's faith.

/I wish I was kidding

Teach the Controversy!

281 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:05:01pm

re: #269 J.D.

Thanks!

What will he think of next?

hell if I know what I'm gonna think of next!

282 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:05:39pm

re: #268 jcm

The half life of a White Chocolate Macadamia Nut cookie is measure in nanoseconds.........

heh

283 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:06:03pm

WARD!

284 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:06:34pm

re: #272 Jetpilot1101

Troofers: those who believe 9-11 was an inside job
Nirthers: those who believe Obama isn't a US citizen
Earthers: those who believe the earth is roughly 6000 years old

I wonder what a convention with all three groups represented would be like and would Zombie dare to cover it?

If they all got together, the Flat Earth would fold up beneath them.

285 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:06:37pm

re: #245 sattv4u2

I prefer an Dyson

Simplicity.

286 Aye Pod  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:06:42pm

A particularly stupid creationist argument I saw recently on another site went that evolution must be wrong, because humans are supposed to be the most highly evolved species on earth, so they should be the most successful species on earth. But look at how many bacteria there are! There are trillions of them, and only a few billion of us! This is incredibly stupid at several levels, of course, but I thought it was particularly ironic that the same people who consider themselves too elevated to be in any way related to monkeys were suddenly happy to think of our species as having achieved less than bacteria, just to try to score a point against evolution.

287 Racer X  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:06:51pm

re: #223 J.D.

Thanks. I'm going to be laid up for a few days and I think I'll order that in.
Unless it raises your blood pressure... Does it?

I really enjoyed Bias.

It sums up most of what we already knew and exposes the MSM for what they are - complicit in the most despicable scam against America in history.

288 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:06:56pm

re: #279 avanti

This site claims Carbon dating proves a young earth because of the flood or some other nonsense.

Carbon dating.

Good find, avanti. Young Earthers asshattery knows no bounds.

289 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:06:57pm

re: #273 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but the creationists will insist that Satan put those particles in the fossils to test people's faith.

/I wish I was kidding

It isn't a case of WILL so much as a case of DO. Anything they don't want to accept is the work of Stan.

290 Viking6  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:06:59pm

re: #272 Jetpilot1101

Apocalypse 2012

291 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:07:06pm

re: #191 carefulnow

Maybe this has already been answered, but what do these creation scientists make of carbon dating?

Carbon dating leads to carbon dancing.

Next thing you know there'll be formation of covalent bonds...

292 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:07:23pm

re: #285 Occasional Reader

Simplicity.

yes I am ,, why do you ask!?!?!?

293 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:07:38pm

re: #272 Jetpilot1101

Troofers: those who believe 9-11 was an inside job
Nirthers: those who believe Obama isn't a US citizen
Earthers: those who believe the earth is roughly 6000 years old

I wonder what a convention with all three groups represented would be like and would Zombie dare to cover it?

Gasp - can you imagine the paper mache glory? i'm going down to my basement now...i have visions of an 800-yr old TRex who KNOWS that war is never the answer! tell Zombie i need a ride!

294 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:09:16pm

re: #288 Dark_Falcon

Good find, avanti. Young Earthers asshattery knows no bounds.

Does ASSHATTERY precede of proceed BATSHATTERY?

295 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:10:19pm

re: #293 Aceofwhat?

Gasp - can you imagine the paper mache glory? i'm going down to my basement now...i have visions of an 800-yr old TRex who KNOWS that war is never the answer! tell Zombie i need a ride!

On a unicorn or dinosuar?

296 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:10:20pm

re: #20 Bloodnok

I didn't come from no stinkin' banana!

You'll have to a peel your case to a higher authority.

297 Occasional Reader  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:10:27pm

Good night.

298 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:10:50pm

re: #43 jcm

It must be true however!
St. George and the Dragon! What else could explain that historically accurately reported incident?

// ;-P

There's a fragment of, I think the Book of Kings, where one of David's men is described as killing a lion in a pit on a snowy day in Jerusalem. I think that if he had killed a T-Rex he would have gotten his own book.

299 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:10:54pm

re: #296 solomonpanting

You'll have to a peel your case to a higher authority.

Thanks a bunch.

300 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:11:19pm

Nite OR.

301 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:11:27pm

re: #293 Aceofwhat?

Gasp - can you imagine the paper mache glory? i'm going down to my basement now...i have visions of an 800-yr old TRex who KNOWS that war is never the answer! tell Zombie i need a ride!

Whenever I see someone with that bumper sticker, I walk up to them and say 'depends on what the question is"

smile, and walk away!

302 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:11:39pm

re: #299 Bloodnok

Thanks a bunch.

Hang in there.

303 sattv4u2  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:11:54pm

re: #299 Bloodnok

Thanks a bunch.

I like how you slipped that in!

304 carefulnow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:12:03pm

re: #291 Dar ul Harb

heh

305 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:12:26pm

re: #46 Jimmah

I know there are some real old-timers out there in California - I met some myself last time I was out by Temecula, but this is ridiculous.

Ridiculous? NO. THIS IS KAAAAHHHHLIIIFOOOOOOONIAAAAAAAAAA!

306 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:12:39pm

re: #238 IslandLibertarian

When I think of a Slumbering Behemoth, I think of Jabba the Hut.....

Think much bigger, much older, and way more esoteric.

307 jcbunga  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:12:47pm

I had no idea T-Rex's were muslims.

308 oh_dude  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:12:54pm

Actually Dinosaurs are very common in So. Cal.

Here's some hanging out in Anaheim.

309 Bloodnok  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:12:55pm

re: #302 solomonpanting

Hang in there.

Well folks. Gotta split. Good night!

310 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:13:04pm

Hey. Someone contact McLeroy. Perhaps we can have this "banana test" approved for inclusion into the Texas Board of Education curriculum.

//

311 Kailen  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:13:26pm

As a child, I lived not far from the area, and used to enjoy visiting the place. Now, however, I plan on avoiding it until the insanity has passed.

312 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:13:33pm

re: #287 Racer X

I might enjoy it.

313 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:13:50pm

re: #294 sattv4u2

Does ASSHATTERY precede of proceed BATSHATTERY?

Sometimes. The two are related, and sometimes they occur in the same person. We call those people The Obamas.

314 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:14:04pm

re: #301 sattv4u2

Whenever I see someone with that bumper sticker, I walk up to them and say 'depends on what the question is"

smile, and walk away!


you're braver than i. when i see it, i adapt Nicholson...i think of a person...and then i take away 'reason' and 'accountability'...

315 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:14:31pm

re: #49 solomonpanting

They must have shopped at the Creation Corner Mall.
This is the first time I've seen an explanation that when referring to a particular species, the author needed to explain that "women" should be included when talking about Cro-Magnon man. It just strikes me as juvenile.

No, no, it's just that these are Californian whacko creationists, and hence, also PC. We don't want the girls growing up feeling that they don't have a stake in this whole thing.

316 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:14:45pm

re: #272 Jetpilot1101

Troofers: those who believe 9-11 was an inside job
Nirthers: those who believe Obama isn't a US citizen
Earthers: those who believe the earth is roughly 6000 years old

I wonder what a convention with all three groups represented would be like and would Zombie dare to cover it?

It might look like a ron paul rally.

317 Zimriel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:15:07pm

re: #298 SanFranciscoZionist

There's a fragment of, I think the Book of Kings, where one of David's men is described as killing a lion in a pit on a snowy day in Jerusalem. I think that if he had killed a T-Rex he would have gotten his own book.

It's 2 Reigns in the Greek, but most of us will find it in 2 Samuel 23:20...

318 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:15:36pm

re: #316 Sharmuta

Bedlam, literally.

319 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:15:53pm

re: #309 Bloodnok

Well folks. Gotta split. Good night!

Banana. Split.

/get it?

320 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:16:02pm

A certain blog I wont mention is now pimping Glen 'atheistic communists are trying to destroy America by teaching evolution' Beck as a new leader of the conservative movement on their front page. Count me out.

321 carefulnow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:16:06pm

You know, with regard to the whole magnificent banana thing, I think they're on to something. Ever notice how bananas go from all green to yellow with brown spots in 7 days? Plus the whole putting a banana where it fits...
/

322 CharlieBravo  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:16:51pm

re: #8 jcm

What do you mean humans and dinosaurs never co-existed?

I have proof!

Knight Templar mated with T-Rex.... creationism gives me a headache.

323 Ilan Toren  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:17:35pm

Cabazon. Dried fruits and nuts is the association I've always had with that place. Not far from Hadley's which was always the better place to stop at on the way to or from Palm Springs.....

324 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:17:41pm

re: #320 MrPaulRevere
Glen Beck said that? Damn.

325 Racer X  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:17:46pm

Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison?

326 Racer X  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:18:25pm

Why do I have to swear on the Bible in court when the Ten Commandments cannot be displayed outside?

327 Ward Cleaver  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:18:35pm

re: #283 J.D.

WARD!

J.D.!

328 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:19:07pm

re: #320 MrPaulRevere

A certain blog I wont mention is now pimping Glen 'atheistic communists are trying to destroy America by teaching evolution' Beck as a new leader of the conservative movement on their front page. Count me out.

OK, he's back on my black list.

329 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:19:07pm

re: #325 Racer X
Then you will provide a Koran, Talmud, Books of Buddha, Tao, on and on and on.

330 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:19:10pm

re: #325 Racer X

Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison?

They are lucky if they can read at all.

331 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:19:13pm

re: #94 Jetpilot1101

I'm not. This is really getting annoying. It's one thing to teach your kids about the Bible and raise them in the Christian faith; it's another thing entirely to delude them into thinking that established science is a load of crap. What bothers me the most about these people is the way they twist the words of scripture to fit their specific agenda. They take an almighty God, jam Him into their created construct and then try to ram it down everyone's throat. I really don't care what they believe, it's a free country and they are free to worship a potted plant if they so desire. I am deeply offended that they continue to use my faith and my God to push a flawed approach to a marvelous universe and then call me a backslidden Christian because I refuse to constrain God with human understanding. I don't have all the answers but they don't either and to suggest that they do is insulting to me and thousands of Christians.

No, you're not speechless. You are pretty damn eloquent!

332 Aye Pod  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:19:19pm

Here's a better idea for museum hunters in California right smack in the middle of LA:

[Link: www.tarpits.org...]

333 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:19:23pm

Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?

334 Ming  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:19:34pm

The current generation of Americans should do their best to leave the country a little better, a little more educated, a little saner than what they were handed. Americans have done this for centuries. There is nothing good that will come out of creationism, and it's especially unfortunate that creationism is becoming associated with the Republican Party. Even France is poking fun at America now, as surveys show that about half of Americans don't accept evolution, which puts the USA down among countries like Turkey and Syria. Anyone who wishes the Republicans well, as I'm sure Charles does, will naturally be concerned about pro-creationist actions coming from prominent Republicans.

335 Zimriel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:19:52pm

re: #325 Racer X

Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison?

re: #326 Racer X

Why do I have to swear on the Bible in court when the Ten Commandments cannot be displayed outside?

Why are you building up strawmen which aren't true?

336 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:19:58pm

re: #325 Racer X

Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison?

Kids can bring a Bible and read it if the want to.

337 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:20:09pm

re: #324 pingjockey

Well to be fair not those exact words in that exact order. He usually burns up 5 minutes of air time to say it. But he does say it, I listen everyday just to keep up on him.

338 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:20:42pm

re: #332 Jimmah

Here's a better idea for museum hunters in California right smack in the middle of LA:

[Link: www.tarpits.org...]

That's a very interesting place. They have more fossils than they have man-hours to clean them up.

339 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:20:46pm

re: #326 Racer X

Why do I have to swear on the Bible in court when the Ten Commandments cannot be displayed outside?

I've testified in court a number of times.... not a Bible in sight.

340 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:21:00pm

re: #326 Racer X
IIre: #337 MrPaulRevere

RC, you don't have to. You can affirm to tell the truth.

341 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:21:28pm

IIRC...damn.

342 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:21:43pm

re: #68 Charles

The meaning behind the creationist banana:


[Video]

Again, I can't tell if that video is meant to promote creationism or fellatio.

343 Racer X  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:21:56pm

Sorry - I was just throwing those two questions out there to sir things up. The thread was slowing down.

344 Zimriel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:22:26pm

re: #342 Slumbering Behemoth

Again, I can't tell if that video is meant to promote creationism or fellatio.

Hoover could explain that to us!

345 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:22:27pm

re: #337 MrPaulRevere
I used to catch him when he was on CNN, it's seems that he's gone waaaay around the bend.

346 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:22:39pm

re: #326 Racer X

Why do I have to swear on the Bible in court when the Ten Commandments cannot be displayed outside?

They still swear on Bibles somewhere ? Not being a smart ass, but I've never been asked to swear on a Bible in court.

347 Racer X  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:23:01pm

A group of old farmers used to gather in a cafe every morning to eat breakfast and drink coffee. They always had the same waitress and developed a good natured banter with her.

Farmer Warren always ordered an oat bran muffin and two eggs for breakfast. Well, one morning farmer Warren was late. As she was pouring coffee for the others, the waitress said, we are out of oat bran muffins so Warren will have to order something different.

A minute later Warren arrived. The waitress flounced over and haughtily told Warren, "I just had to scratch what you want."

Without missing a beat, warren replied, "That's OK. Go wash your hands and bring me an oat bran muffin and two eggs!"

348 chicagodudewhotrades  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:23:27pm

re: #332 Jimmah

That is a pretty cool Museum

349 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:23:29pm

re: #334 Ming

Remember,I gave you your first up ding on your first post. Welcome. :)

350 Aye Pod  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:23:57pm

re: #320 MrPaulRevere

Seen him on TV a few times recently - each time he seems like more of a nutjob.

351 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:24:09pm

re: #343 Racer X

Sorry - I was just throwing those two questions out there to sir things up. The thread was slowing down.

I was trying to listen to some of those creationist "scientists" on Youtube but gave up. They make no sense whatsoever and oddly enough they all seem to have the same speaking style.

They also seem to have a huge chip on their shoulders.

352 Seax  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:24:13pm

Isn't that a picture of
Templar Tim playing ball with his pet
T-Rex - 'Spot' - in the Holy Lands?
I see 'Spot' is really enjoying the game...
just look at that mischievous gleam in his eye!
Fetch Spot Fetch!
Run Spot Run...
oops..Run Templar Tim Run!
Faster...Templar Tim Faster!...uh oh..
Bad Bad Spot!

353 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:25:07pm

re: #343 Racer X

Sorry - I was just throwing those two questions out there to sir things up. The thread was slowing down.

following JCM's reply, you can choose to read a Bible in either place and are forced to in neither place. does that settle it?

but if you really want to shake things up, ask the Templar the average velocity of an African swallow...

354 Ateam  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:26:08pm

Carbonate 14 isotope test means nothing. So also DNA. Count on your church/synagogue/muskie saying. It's full with rich God saying. Till d end.

355 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:26:29pm

re: #317 Zimriel

It's 2 Reigns in the Greek, but most of us will find it in 2 Samuel 23:20...

Thank you!

356 Zimriel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:27:02pm

re: #352 Seax

Isn't that a picture of
Templar Tim playing ball with his pet
T-Rex - 'Spot' - in the Holy Lands?

Either that or it's the longawaited sequel to module X1- "The Isle of Dread". The dinosaurs got let loose in the Empire of Thyatis and it's up to your band of plucky adventurers to track them down.

357 jpl17  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:27:31pm

re: #123 EaterOfFood

This post of Charles' is very freaky to me, because my wife and I happened to visit the Cabazon dinosaurs just a few weeks ago while we were on a long road trip of California. (Full disclosure: Yes, we stopped there simply because I'm a HUGE fan of "Pee Wee's Big Adventure.") My reaction was similar to Ringo's: I was pretty freaked that they'd turned the place into a creationist museum. But almost as sad to me was the fact that they'd scrubbed the place of all references to the movie simply because the new owners can't forgive Paul Reubens for his masturbation arrest of 18 years ago. (This fact was explained to us by the manager of the Wheel Inn Restaurant, which is on the Cabazon dinosaur site and of course also appeared in the movie.)

The ONE bright spot of our visit was when I asked the Wheel Inn manager if any customers ever walk in and say, "Large Marge sent me." Her answer: "Oh, about 3 times a day."

So, yes, Large Marge lives on.

358 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:27:45pm

re: #354 Ateam

Carbonate 14 isotope test means nothing. So also DNA. Count on your church/synagogue/muskie saying. It's full with rich God saying. Till d end.

Sorry Ateam, you're putting up a good fight through the language barrier, but you lost me there...

359 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:27:59pm

re: #325 Racer X

Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison?

There is nothing stopping a child from reading a Bible in school.

360 Aye Pod  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:28:06pm

re: #338 jaunte

That's a very interesting place. They have more fossils than they have man-hours to clean them up.

I'm going to go there next time I'm in L.A.

K - I better do the banana thing now too. Nite folks:)

361 Zimriel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:28:08pm

re: #354 Ateam

Carbonate 14 isotope test means nothing. So also DNA. Count on your church/synagogue/muskie saying. It's full with rich God saying. Till d end.

Uhhh... what?

/head explodes

362 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:28:29pm

re: #352 Seax

Isn't that a picture of
Templar Tim playing ball with his pet
T-Rex - 'Spot' - in the Holy Lands?
I see 'Spot' is really enjoying the game...
just look at that mischievous gleam in his eye!
Fetch Spot Fetch!
Run Spot Run...
oops..Run Templar Tim Run!
Faster...Templar Tim Faster!...uh oh..
Bad Bad Spot!

LMAO! I guess its knighty, knight, Tim.

363 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:28:39pm

re: #345 pingjockey

I heard through the grapevine Beck was a stand up guy worth listening to etc...I had never heard him on the radio (they just picked him up in my area) and rarely watch TV so I figured I would give him a listen. What I heard was FEMA camp paranoia, shameless fear mongering and cult like talking points ('We surround them'? WTF?) I am convinced the man is unbalanced.

364 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:28:43pm

OT

Say a prayer for the families of the four Oakland, CA Police Officers.

365 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:28:50pm

re: #354 Ateam

Carbonate 14 isotope test means nothing. So also DNA. Count on your church/synagogue/muskie saying. It's full with rich God saying. Till d end.

You channeling tfk?

366 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:28:58pm

re: #361 Zimriel
We're carbonated life forms?!

367 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:28:59pm

re: #326 Racer X

Why do I have to swear on the Bible in court when the Ten Commandments cannot be displayed outside?

You don't. Quakers, for example, simply affirm that they will tell the truth, and I believe that's an available option to other people as well.

368 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:29:24pm

re: #366 pingjockey

We're carbonated life forms?!

Like scotch and soda.

//

369 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:29:30pm

re: #357 jpl17

Q: Name two people who were shot in the back of the head in a theater.

A: Abe Lincoln and the guy who sat in front of Pee Wee Herman.

370 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:29:51pm

re: #120 rawmuse

Thinking if I have ever seen this place during my travels. Undoubted some places like it. Or, maybe it was the old Sinclair station. Do they still have those?

I've seen the Sinclair sign on some recent road trips, but nothing like giant green dino replicas they used to have for the delight and amusement of small fry. I know I used to love them.

371 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:29:52pm

re: #369 Mich-again

Q: Name two people who were shot in the back of the head in a theater.

A: Abe Lincoln and the guy who sat in front of Pee Wee Herman.

Noooooooooooooooooo!

///

372 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:30:41pm

re: #370 Silvergirl

I've seen the Sinclair sign on some recent road trips, but nothing like giant green dino replicas they used to have for the delight and amusement of small fry. I know I used to love them.

We have a Sinclair station about 2 miles from here that still has one of the Dino's outside.

373 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:30:47pm

re: #363 MrPaulRevere
Yep. When I saw him on CNN, seemed quite rational, Now with his soapbox on FNC, he's come totally unglued. Sad.

374 Ringo the Gringo  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:31:03pm

Sorry, I had to step out for a bit.

Thanks for all the positive comments.

Just for the record, I am not an atheist. I was raised Catholic. When I was in my late teens I began to doubt. By my mid twenties I was an agnostic, leaning toward atheism....by 30 I was pretty much an atheist. By my mid-thirties I began to doubt my atheism. Now, in my forties I am a Catholic again, albeit not a very good one.

Just for the record.

375 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:31:19pm

re: #369 Mich-again
WHACK!

376 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:31:26pm

re: #336 jcm

Kids can bring a Bible and read it if the want to.

And do. It's not uncommon to find a Bible study group happening at recess in any public school--the kids just hang out and read, and discuss things.

377 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:31:40pm

re: #369 Mich-again

Q: Name two people who were shot in the back of the head in a theater.

A: Abe Lincoln and the guy who sat in front of Pee Wee Herman.

Did you know that Lincoln was Jewish? He was shot in the Temple.

378 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:32:05pm

re: #374 Ringo the Gringo
Very well done sir.

379 Emerald  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:32:31pm

re: #266 swamprat

Every culture has dragons.

And not a single representation in artwork from any culture that resembles an actual dinosaur.

380 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:32:32pm

re: #374 Ringo the Gringo

Sorry, I had to step out for a bit.

Thanks for all the positive comments.

Just for the record, I am not an atheist. I was raised Catholic. When I was in my late teens I began to doubt. By my mid twenties I was an agnostic, leaning toward atheism....by 30 I was pretty much an atheist. By my mid-thirties I began to doubt my atheism. Now, in my forties I am a Catholic again, albeit not a very good one.

Just for the record.

Sounds kinda like my trip. Baptist -> agnostic -> to a pretty fundamental evangelical theology for want of a better term.

381 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:32:51pm

re: #369 Mich-again

Q: Name two people who were shot in the back of the head in a theater.

A: Abe Lincoln and the guy who sat in front of Pee Wee Herman.


ewwww i just got that

382 Zimriel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:33:17pm

re: #374 Ringo the Gringo

Sorry, I had to step out for a bit.

Thanks for all the positive comments.

Just for the record, I am not an atheist. I was raised Catholic. When I was in my late teens I began to doubt. By my mid twenties I was an agnostic, leaning toward atheism....by 30 I was pretty much an atheist. By my mid-thirties I began to doubt my atheism. Now, in my forties I am a Catholic again, albeit not a very good one.

Just for the record.

Almost exactly my life journey, except for being raised Episcopalian off-and-on. And I contracted Catholicism at 34.

383 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:33:26pm

re: #364 jcm

OT

Say a prayer for the families of the four Oakland, CA Police Officers.

I will say a prayer for the cops, and curse the thug who shot them. Given the unrepentant way he died, I'd agree with the creationists as to his fate: He's burning in Hell.

384 Aviator  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:33:38pm

re: #381 phoenixgirl

ewwww i just got that

re: #381 phoenixgirl

ewwww i just got that

So did the guy in front of Pee Wee.

385 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:34:08pm

Our second down-dinger has appeared.

386 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:34:19pm

Yeah, they like to refute carbon dating by using rhetoric. They use half truths and non-scientific methods (bordering on quackery). None of these so called YEC "scientists" have ever written a scientific paper for peer review presenting this so called hypothesis. It's almost like the 5th Column of "science."

387 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:34:24pm

re: #376 SanFranciscoZionist

And do. It's not uncommon to find a Bible study group happening at recess in any public school--the kids just hang out and read, and discuss things.

My church maintains Christian fellowship groups on all the colleges, we're like another other student group, have access to facilities etc...

388 Zimriel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:34:52pm

re: #385 Charles

Our second down-dinger has appeared.

Oh noes! If they down ding you enough you might get banned!

389 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:35:28pm

re: #374 Ringo the Gringo

If the Atheists would, they would pray for your sanity.

I myself took a similar journey, but sooner.

390 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:35:32pm

re: #385 Charles

Our second down-dinger has appeared.

Some people are so easily amused.

391 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:35:35pm

re: #385 Charles
They're like no see ums. flit here and there, being a nuisance.

392 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:35:40pm

I wasn't able to get Ringo's link to load...did anyone else have trouble?

393 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:35:46pm

re: #385 Charles

Our second down-dinger has appeared.

That would be a Split.

394 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:36:03pm

re: #359 SanFranciscoZionist

There is nothing stopping a child from reading a Bible in school.

Actually, I'm moved to confess at this point that there is, me. I once confiscated a copy of the King James Bible during class in a public school. I did this because the kids who had it were reading it during class time and not paying attention to the lesson. I gave it back to them after class and told them that studying scripture was a good thing, just not while we were discussing how to organize a paragraph.

I then went back to my teaching credential program and told my classmates about this episode. "What was in the Bible?" one of them asked.

"The Word of God," said I.

"Oh," she said, "I thought they had, like, a comic book in it or something."

Nope. Just a Bible.

395 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:36:11pm

Split, CJW, can you formulate an argument to go with that mousefinger?

396 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:36:23pm

re: #392 Wishing

I wasn't able to get Ringo's link to load...did anyone else have trouble?

I couldn't get it, just kept trying to load. I suspect busy server.

397 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:36:29pm

re: #372 Walter L. Newton

We have a Sinclair station about 2 miles from here that still has one of the Dino's outside.

Fun! I'm glad some are still around. I used to have a little inflatable Sinclair dino.

398 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:37:20pm

re: #385 Charles

Our second down-dinger has appeared.


You dinged up your own post?

It is good to be king.

399 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:37:38pm

Some CA desert people are a little wacky...

400 Zimriel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:38:03pm

re: #394 SanFranciscoZionist


I then went back to my teaching credential program and told my classmates about this episode. "What was in the Bible?" one of them asked.

"The Word of God," said I.

"Oh," she said, "I thought they had, like, a comic book in it or something."

Nope. Just a Bible.

You should have said, "the... Apocrypha" and given a theatrical shudder.

401 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:38:10pm

re: #397 Silvergirl

Fun! I'm glad some are still around. I used to have a little inflatable Sinclair dino.

Back in the 60's Arco had as a promotional giveaway a plastic Noah's arc with all the animals.

402 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:38:17pm

re: #379 Emerald

And not a single representation in artwork from any culture that resembles an actual dinosaur.

There's a really whacked out creationist site that says there are!

403 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:38:36pm

re: #399 SummerSong

Some CA desert people are a little wacky...

Aliens!

//

404 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:38:51pm

"That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. Ever. Makes you wonder if the proprietors paid any attention at all in science class." ...from the Freeper thread. Something tells me he wont last long at FR.

405 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:39:07pm

re: #387 jcm

My church maintains Christian fellowship groups on all the colleges, we're like another other student group, have access to facilities etc...

One of my friends was involved for a few years with a college fellowship group which I remember for their great chili and hilarious acronym. They were Follow the Lord On Campus.

406 Split  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:39:46pm

re: #399 SummerSong

Some CA desert people are a little wacky...

Some of us Sonoran desert people are a little wacky as well.

407 lostlakehiker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:40:46pm

The crusader should be a little less evolved. Have him up in a tree, screeching and throwing coprolites.

408 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:41:03pm

re: #405 SanFranciscoZionist

One of my friends was involved for a few years with a college fellowship group which I remember for their great chili and hilarious acronym. They were Follow the Lord On Campus.

That's a good one, humor never hurts!

409 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:41:09pm

I was by that place a few years ago. We sang the Flintstones song as we passed it. The dino's are visible from the road.

We "moooo" at cows, too.

410 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:41:11pm

re: #399 SummerSong

Some CA desert people are a little wacky...

The problem is in that a little in CA means so much in the rest of the country,

411 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:41:52pm

re: #407 lostlakehiker

The crusader should be a little less evolved. Have him up in a tree, screeching and throwing coprolites.

Then he becomes coprolite!

412 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:42:05pm

re: #400 Zimriel

The Apocrypha has two recipes in it; One for curing leprosy(or some sort of skin ailment) and one for killing dragons with balls of fat.

413 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:42:39pm

re: #39 Aceofwhat?

Ya, caught that too. but i can at least picture how a group of crazy spear guys takes a weak mammoth down. i can't picture how any self-respecting theropod goes down without taking half of william wallace's army down with him...(yes, i'm mixing centuries - templars wore white - we know, we know)

Actually, some of the Roman and/or medieval war machines might have been effective against T-rex. There was a spear thrower that worked on the principle of a crossbow, driven by twisted skeins of sinew. Modern replicas of such devices are pretty doggone impressive.

But throwing rocks at T-rex is probably a good way to get eaten. T-rex is no doubt thinking, "crunchy on the outside, soft and chewy on the inside."

414 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:43:12pm

re: #412 swamprat
What? To give the dragons plaque in their arteries and give them a coronary?

416 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:43:18pm

re: #410 FurryOldGuyJeans

The problem is in that a little in CA means so much in the rest of the country,

I'm from California...4th generation. You ever been here or just going on the scuttlebutt?

417 Ateam  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:44:26pm

re: #358 Overheat?

Sorry Ateam, you're putting up a good fight through the language barrier, but you lost me there...

Are you losing my opinions?
More then 100k executives are getting bounces after theirs firms sufferings heavy losses due the heaviest recession in USA history.

418 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:44:44pm

re: #415 Zimriel
It is the 13th tribe!

419 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:44:49pm

re: #416 SummerSong

I'm from California...4th generation. You ever been here or just going on the scuttlebutt?

Spent over 10 years in San Diego (Navy and after) and Fresno (After).

420 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:44:59pm

Charles, remember when you banned 'Foxsecret' for downdinging Salamantis' and my posts and not posting himself. Might it be time to enforce that rule again?

421 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:45:08pm

re: #415 Zimriel

A historical portrait of the discovery of the Americas

The coral snake in the foreground is a nice touch, eh?

422 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:45:19pm

re: #55 Gus 802

A rainbow flag? That's pretty funny.

And the other flag, a U.S. flag with some symbols superimposed, isn't that illegal, or at least contrary to flag protocol?

423 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:46:00pm

re: #420 Dark_Falcon

Charles, remember when you banned 'Foxsecret' for downdinging Salamantis' and my posts and not posting himself. Might it be time to enforce that rule again?

One of the double secret down-dingers posted:

re: #406 Split

Some of us Sonoran desert people are a little wacky as well.

424 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:46:00pm

re: #419 FurryOldGuyJeans

Spent over 10 years in San Diego (Navy and after) and Fresno (After).

Fresno? I'm so sorry.

;)

425 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:46:05pm

re: #401 FurryOldGuyJeans

Back in the 60's Arco had as a promotional giveaway a plastic Noah's arc with all the animals.

Yeah, I can remember our family collecting drinking glasses with cars on them for my brother. My mom also got S&H Green stamps and later Blue Chip stamps to paste in books and turn in for household items.

426 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:46:19pm

re: #422 Alberta Oil Peon

And the other flag, a U.S. flag with some symbols superimposed, isn't that illegal, or at least contrary to flag protocol?

More than likely. However, since it's not an official govt. site or use it's probably OK.

427 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:46:47pm

re: #414 pingjockey

I have forgotten whether the balls were fed to the dragon prior to stabbing, or just as a poison. It was in the book of Daniel and is not in the King James version.

428 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:46:54pm

re: #394 SanFranciscoZionist

Actually, I'm moved to confess at this point that there is, me. I once confiscated a copy of the King James Bible during class in a public school. I did this because the kids who had it were reading it during class time and not paying attention to the lesson. I gave it back to them after class and told them that studying scripture was a good thing, just not while we were discussing how to organize a paragraph.

I then went back to my teaching credential program and told my classmates about this episode. "What was in the Bible?" one of them asked.

"The Word of God," said I.

"Oh," she said, "I thought they had, like, a comic book in it or something."

Nope. Just a Bible.

re: #400 Zimriel

You should have said, "the... Apocrypha" and given a theatrical shudder.

My thoughts exactly! Smack palm to head and say 'the gospel of Judas - can you imagine?'

429 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:46:57pm

re: #417 Ateam

Are you losing my opinions?
More then 100k executives are getting bounces after theirs firms sufferings heavy losses due the heaviest recession in USA history.

Oh stop with the stupid dumb-assed sentence phrasing and speak normally, or stop wasting our fucking time. What are you, 12 years old or something?

430 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:47:22pm

re: #422 Alberta Oil Peon

And the other flag, a U.S. flag with some symbols superimposed, isn't that illegal, or at least contrary to flag protocol?

Not illegal, just mighty tacky.

431 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:47:35pm

I remember my mom and I scraping together enough money to buy a set of plastic dinosaurs when I was about 10. Was one of my all-time favorite *toys*. I used to know all the names.

432 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:47:40pm

re: #407 lostlakehiker

The crusader should be a little less evolved. Have him up in a tree, screeching and throwing coprolites.

he'd live five seconds longer that way, too!

433 Cognito  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:47:49pm

Hmm. The 'auto' function is pretty neat.

434 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:48:33pm

re: #423 FurryOldGuyJeans

Good catch. Argument rescinded.

435 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:48:46pm

re: #429 Walter L. Newton

I don't think he talks like that to annoy you. I think English is his second language.

436 jimc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:48:48pm

Even I am stumped by this...

437 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:48:53pm

HEY Late Night Lizards! It was nice again in Near Iowa today. They say it's going to rain soon.

Kudo's to Ringo! Link emailed to my list.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

438 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:49:06pm

re: #433 Cognito

Hmm. The 'auto' function is pretty neat.

Hello, Cog. How are things going?

439 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:49:10pm

Emerald (love the nic, BTW):

Here's that crazy ass creationist site where dinosaurs are everywhere in art.

440 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:49:13pm

And this park is endorsed by two neurosurgeons? What is this a cult?

441 Ringo the Gringo  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:49:32pm

re: #385 Charles

Our second down-dinger has appeared.

Perhaps they're not PeeWee Herman fans?

442 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:49:37pm

re: #427 swamprat
Really? That is kind of neat, actually.

443 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:50:28pm

re: #435 Neo Con since 9-11

I don't think he talks like that to annoy you. I think English is his second language.

He said Tel Aviv, in a different thread. but effort only takes you so far - it's not alchemy for pure non-sequiturs...

444 itellu3times  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:50:39pm

How about the old place in Palm Springs that featured the sex life of the date palm?

445 Zimriel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:50:55pm

re: #421 Wishing

The coral snake in the foreground is a nice touch, eh?

Also note the warrior's early 80's 'do and his hiked-up kilt.

IT'S THE GAME OF SATAN!

446 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:51:24pm

All Right, please forgive me, but I missed Charles's explaination of the "auto" box next to "new comments". Please fill me in.

Thanks.

447 Ringo the Gringo  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:51:39pm

re: #392 Wishing

I wasn't able to get Ringo's link to load...did anyone else have trouble?

My hamsters are taking a break.

They'll be back on the job soon. Do try again in a little while.

448 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:51:49pm

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

We haven't had any troll show up here yet, and I've hungry. Come on, Hoover, you down-dinger, show yourself! I want to roast your Gamey Buttocks!

You'll never get them to comment. They know their arguments are completely without substance, and cannot survive being exposed to the light of truth. This is why they've resigned themselves to sniping from the shadows.

449 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:52:16pm

re: #446 ggt
It automatically updates comments every 10 seconds!

450 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:52:18pm

re: #446 ggt

All Right, please forgive me, but I missed Charles's explaination of the "auto" box next to "new comments". Please fill me in.

Thanks.

Check the box and wait a few seconds... it auto-updates comments.
Is that cool or what?

451 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:52:19pm

re: #435 Neo Con since 9-11

I don't think he talks like that to annoy you. I think English is his second language.

If it is a language "thing" then I'm sorry. Otherwise, someone is trying to yank us.

452 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:52:33pm

re: #446 ggt

All Right, please forgive me, but I missed Charles's explaination of the "auto" box next to "new comments". Please fill me in.

Thanks.

Check the box and every 10 seconds you get new comments as if you had pressed the new comments button.

453 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:52:44pm

re: #449 pingjockey

It automatically updates comments every 10 seconds!

How cool is that! Thanks.

454 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:52:50pm

re: #431 Wishing

I remember my mom and I scraping together enough money to buy a set of plastic dinosaurs when I was about 10. Was one of my all-time favorite *toys*. I used to know all the names.

A few years ago I was reading a little kid a book about dinosaurs and I pronounced Ankylosaurus like ankle-uh-sore-uss. He corrected me with Ann-kye-lo-sore-uss. Red faced.

455 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:53:05pm

re: #451 Walter L. Newton

If it is a language "thing" then I'm sorry. Otherwise, someone is trying to yank us.

Kinda why I asked if he were channeling tfk.

456 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:53:32pm

re: #422 Alberta Oil Peon

And the other flag, a U.S. flag with some symbols superimposed, isn't that illegal, or at least contrary to flag protocol?

I don't believe it's illegal. As to flag protocol, probably a no-no, but how much people care seems to vary with the circumstances. There's a big intertribal pow-wow at a local college every year, and they have some big U.S. flags with a portrait of a traditionally headgeared Sioux warrior imposed over the colors. These come out and are carried when the dancers dance for the troops. It's not formal flag etiquette, but who in their right mind is gonna object?

I can't see what's on this one. I confess to being baffled by the rainbow flag. I know what it usually means, I just can't imagine that it means that THERE.

457 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:53:38pm

Good evening you all! Hope everyone's doing ok - what all are we talking about?

458 Ateam  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:53:43pm

re: #429 Walter L. Newton

Oh stop with the stupid dumb-assed sentence phrasing and speak normally, or stop wasting our fucking time. What are you, 12 years old or something?

So sorry for you.

459 Dianna  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:54:04pm

Well, this has been fun, but I'm for bed.

Take care, lizards.

Please don't blame Bell for the "museum", all right? He just liked dinosaurs and wanted to make some money.

460 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:54:12pm

Hi real. Dinos and down-dingers.

461 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:54:13pm

re: #454 Silvergirl

A few years ago I was reading a little kid a book about dinosaurs and I pronounced Ankylosaurus like ankle-uh-sore-uss. He corrected me with Ann-kye-lo-sore-uss. Red faced.

Kids won't stand for BS....gotta love it. ;)

462 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:54:38pm

haha just figured out the auto box.....damn i'm slow! but i'm ahead of you!/

463 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:55:05pm

re: #445 Zimriel

Also note the warrior's early 80's 'do and his hiked-up kilt.

IT'S THE GAME OF SATAN!

We know what beer the warrior drinks.

464 Ward Cleaver  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:55:40pm

re: #462 phoenixgirl

haha just figured out the auto box.....damn i'm slow! but i'm ahead of you!/

It even works if you have the Refreshblocker add-on for Firefox installed. Way cool.

465 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:55:46pm

re: #457 realwest

Good evening you all! Hope everyone's doing ok - what all are we talking about?

Hey RW! How are YOU doin'?

I think we are still making fun of the creationists and trying to coax silent down-dingers to the grill. Lizards are hungry.

466 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:56:22pm

re: #454 Silvergirl

A few years ago I was reading a little kid a book about dinosaurs and I pronounced Ankylosaurus like ankle-uh-sore-uss. He corrected me with Ann-kye-lo-sore-uss. Red faced.


You should have handed him the book and said 'ok, take it from here then, Doctor'!

Sigh. My kids think i'm strange.

467 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:56:48pm

re: #457 {realwest}

Good evening you all! Hope everyone's doing ok - what all are we talking about?

Cookies and kooks.

468 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:57:04pm

re: #442 pingjockey
I came across "the Apocrypha" as a separate book; just the disputed passages.

469 Cognito  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:57:07pm

re: #438 Dark_Falcon

Hello, Cog. How are things going?

Things are going well. Busy at the moment, for which I am grateful.

You doing well?

470 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:57:26pm

you know what's cool? dinosaurs can read!

471 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:57:30pm

re: #465 ggt

Hey RW! How are YOU doin'?

I think we are still making fun of the creationists and trying to coax silent down-dingers to the grill. Lizards are hungry.

Sadly, they won't take the bait. It's too late to put on the charcoal now. Looks like there'll be no troll roast tonight.

472 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:57:41pm

“Obama Knew, Bonuses Flew.” Shamelessly lifted from Hot Air.

473 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:57:42pm

re: #455 FurryOldGuyJeans
With respect, my friend TFK does make sense and English is not a second language from him but he was terribly wounded in Vietnam - shot in the head twice and nearly died while serving this Nation - he is on medications now so sometimes he appears to be more precise in his use of the langauge.
I would ask you to please not make fun of him.

474 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:57:51pm

hi {cog}

475 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:58:22pm

re: #469 Cognito

Things are going well. Busy at the moment, for which I am grateful.

You doing well?

Bad sales day today. Physically, I'm all right. But I need more sales.

476 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:58:24pm

re: #457 realwest

Good evening you all! Hope everyone's doing ok - what all are we talking about?

Terrible science and terrible lizards.

477 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:58:26pm

re: #468 swamprat
Ah. Saw a thing on Nat Geo about the 'missing' books of the Bible.

478 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:58:38pm

re: #272 Jetpilot1101

Troofers: those who believe 9-11 was an inside job
Nirthers: those who believe Obama isn't a US citizen
Earthers: those who believe the earth is roughly 6000 years old

I wonder what a convention with all three groups represented would be like and would Zombie dare to cover it?

Believe it or not, there is some overlap in those three crowds.

479 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:58:39pm

re: #460 Silvergirl
We're talking about down dingers? Anyone who's name(s) you'd care to reveal?!

480 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:58:57pm

re: #473 realwest

I did not know that about tfk.
Thanks for filling me in.

481 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:59:17pm

re: #476 solomonpanting
Ah, ok - who are the terrible lizards?

482 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:59:27pm

re: #473 realwest

With respect, my friend TFK does make sense and English is not a second language from him but he was terribly wounded in Vietnam - shot in the head twice and nearly died while serving this Nation - he is on medications now so sometimes he appears to be more precise in his use of the langauge.
I would ask you to please not make fun of him.

I was not making fun of him. I find his posts to be lyrical.

483 revobob  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:59:34pm

re: #473 realwest

With respect, my friend TFK does make sense and English is not a second language from him but he was terribly wounded in Vietnam - shot in the head twice and nearly died while serving this Nation - he is on medications now so sometimes he appears to be more precise in his use of the langauge.
I would ask you to please not make fun of him.

Thank you for that explanation- I have sometimesoften wondered why he is often 'differently coherent'.

484 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:59:42pm

re: #473 realwest

With respect, my friend TFK does make sense and English is not a second language from him but he was terribly wounded in Vietnam - shot in the head twice and nearly died while serving this Nation - he is on medications now so sometimes he appears to be more precise in his use of the langauge.
I would ask you to please not make fun of him.

I think we might all be at least a smidge nicer to people if we were in on their "back stories," you know? We all have them.

485 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 8:59:50pm

re: #481 realwest

Ah, ok - who are the terrible lizards?

Avanti comes to mind. :p

486 Zimriel  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:00:16pm

re: #479 realwest

We're talking about down dingers? Anyone who's name(s) you'd care to reveal?!

Just click the number in Charles's original post...

487 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:00:21pm

re: #481 realwest

Ah, ok - who are the terrible lizards?


Let's see... not me, not you, ...

488 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:00:35pm

re: #481 realwest

Ah, ok - who are the terrible lizards?

DinaShores

489 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:00:37pm

OK, I have a stupid question. These guys keep saying the Earth, etc., is 6000 years old. If it's now 2009 AD shouldn't that be 8,009 years old?

Why is it that the date remains static? You ever notice that it's been 6000 years old for the past 100 years but that number never budges?

490 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:00:44pm

re: #465 ggt Hey ggt - don't mind coaxing silent down-dingers to the bbq, but I'm bored with roasting creationists.

491 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:00:50pm

re: #485 BlueCanuck

Avanti comes to mind. :p

I come to mind!

492 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:01:14pm

re: #471 Dark_Falcon

Sadly, they won't take the bait. It's too late to put on the charcoal now. Looks like there'll be no troll roast tonight.

bummer! :(

493 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:01:25pm

re: #467 J.D.
Hi there {J.D.} - so I gather! How are you doing this evening?

494 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:01:47pm

re: #486 Zimriel

Just click the number in Charles's original post...

cool - been trying to figure that out all night.

495 Cognito  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:02:20pm

re: #474 phoenixgirl

hi {cog}

Hey there!

496 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:02:25pm

re: #489 Gus 802

OK, I have a stupid question. These guys keep saying the Earth, etc., is 6000 years old. If it's now 2009 AD shouldn't that be 8,009 years old?

Why is it that the date remains static? You ever notice that it's been 6000 years old for the past 100 years but that number never budges?

Science is to remain static for the IDers, hence all their refutations of evolution based on what Darwin wrote, not on what the science says now.

But really why question religious dogma?

497 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:03:11pm

re: #493 realwest

Doing great. Just got back from LA so sort of tired and winding down so I can make it to my 8 AM doctor appointment.
Joy. :D

498 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:03:36pm

Did ya all hear about the 4 police officers murdered on Oakland yesterday. Traffic stop, outstanding warrants, 2 killed at the scene, then the perp flees. When the responders show up, the crowd is heckling the police. They find the guy 2 blocks away barricaded into an apartment and 2 more cops get shot and killed. One survived to today.

499 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:03:44pm

re: #480 J.D. He's mentioned it out here a couple of times - a while ago, so I'm not telling any tales out of school - I've just been around long enough and like TFK enough to remember.

500 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:03:54pm

I actually like to read Genesis to get early man's take on creation before there was science. I know its not an historical account of creation but it is a version of creation from whoever it was that was advanced enough to write stuff down back then.

The forbidden fruit in Eden was from the tree of knowledge of right and wrong. When the early humans advanced to the point that they realized there were such things as morals, then they set themselves apart from all the other animals. In the words of the serpent (In Genesis 3:5) "You shall be like God knowing wrong from right."

And that is what separates us from other animals. And that is what doomed us as a species. Because once a being recognizes there are things such as good and evil, then its all just a matter of convincing people just what constitutes good and evil. And figuring out just where that line between them is has been the reason for every war fought.

If humans as a species were still in the animal mode of survival by instinct and force the Earth wouldn't look anything like it does now.

The question is, what was the "tree of knowledge of right and wrong" that separated humans from other animals? I think it was the ability to speak to communicate thoughts. And it makes perfect sense that women were the ones responsible for that advancement in human development. Hello!

501 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:03:54pm

re: #496 FurryOldGuyJeans

Science is to remain static for the IDers, hence all their refutations of evolution based on what Darwin wrote, not on what the science says now.

But really why question religious dogma?

Cause it's fun? I don't know. I would never get an answer from a YECer.

Hey, they can have Earth birthdays. This year the Earth is 8009 years old. Next year it will be 8010 years old! ///

502 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:03:58pm

re: #439 Sharmuta

Emerald (love the nic, BTW):

Here's that crazy ass creationist site where dinosaurs are everywhere in art.

Thanks for the link Sharmuta..These peeps are nuts or what?

503 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:04:11pm

bbiab

504 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:04:21pm

re: #489 Gus 802

OK, I have a stupid question. These guys keep saying the Earth, etc., is 6000 years old. If it's now 2009 AD shouldn't that be 8,009 years old?

Why is it that the date remains static? You ever notice that it's been 6000 years old for the past 100 years but that number never budges?

The Jewish calender now gives the year as 5769 since the creation of the world.

505 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:04:28pm

re: #482 FurryOldGuyJeans
Thanks for that one - I do appreciate it very much.

506 arcatan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:04:48pm

I'll put it simply: If we were to shut-up everyone who had wrong ideas there would be no one talking at all.

507 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:04:50pm

re: #489 Gus 802

OK, I have a stupid question. These guys keep saying the Earth, etc., is 6000 years old. If it's now 2009 AD shouldn't that be 8,009 years old?

Why is it that the date remains static? You ever notice that it's been 6000 years old for the past 100 years but that number never budges?


A fellow by the name of Bishop James Ussher in the late 17th century sat down and compiled all the genealogies and ages of people in the Bible and calculated the earth was created in 4004 B.C.

508 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:04:52pm

re: #499 realwest

I never have seen anything about that, ever.
He's quite a character, tfk.
I enjoy his posts.

509 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:05:21pm

re: #498 DistantThunder

Did ya all hear about the 4 police officers murdered on Oakland yesterday. Traffic stop, outstanding warrants, 2 killed at the scene, then the perp flees. When the responders show up, the crowd is heckling the police. They find the guy 2 blocks away barricaded into an apartment and 2 more cops get shot and killed. One survived to today.

Latest reports the 4th cop is brain dead.

510 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:05:27pm

re: #504 SanFranciscoZionist

The Jewish calender now gives the year as 5769 since the creation of the world.

A nice odd number.

511 J.D.  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:05:43pm

Nite all.

512 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:05:50pm

re: #506 arcatan

I'll put it simply: If we were to shut-up everyone who had wrong ideas there would be no one talking at all.

Great- how about you go first.

513 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:06:02pm

re: #507 jcm

A fellow by the name of Bishop James Ussher in the late 17th century sat down and compiled all the genealogies and ages of people in the Bible and calculated the earth was created in 4004 B.C.

Would that be considered Census Dating?

514 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:06:14pm

It's another reason that Romney might have a hard time with fundamentalists - he is NOT a creationist. He believes in Evolution and God. Saw Huckabee on TV in Elkhart Indiana flapping his gums trying to sound intelligent - the man doesn't have a clue about economics and it showed.

515 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:06:28pm

re: #509 jcm

It wouldn't surprise me if Oakland had a hard time hiring any new police.

516 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:06:51pm

re: #498 DistantThunder

Did ya all hear about the 4 police officers murdered on Oakland yesterday. Traffic stop, outstanding warrants, 2 killed at the scene, then the perp flees. When the responders show up, the crowd is heckling the police. They find the guy 2 blocks away barricaded into an apartment and 2 more cops get shot and killed. One survived to today.

I was on last night when Zombie came on and told us. Sick stuff.

517 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:06:54pm

re: #338 jaunte

That's a very interesting place. They have more fossils than they have man-hours to clean them up.

I spent an afternoon touring through the Page Museum this past January. Can't recommend it too highly.

518 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:07:03pm

re: #509 jcm

Latest reports the 4th cop is brain dead.

I saw the news tonight and it said "has died."

519 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:07:16pm

re: #498 DistantThunder

Did ya all hear about the 4 police officers murdered on Oakland yesterday. Traffic stop, outstanding warrants, 2 killed at the scene, then the perp flees. When the responders show up, the crowd is heckling the police. They find the guy 2 blocks away barricaded into an apartment and 2 more cops get shot and killed. One survived to today.

There was a group of people yesterday afternoon, taunting the cops near the site of the first shootings.

Ex-cop's daughter having some serious anger issues here.

520 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:07:50pm

re: #514 DistantThunder

It's another reason that Romney might have a hard time with fundamentalists - he is NOT a creationist. He believes in Evolution and God. Saw Huckabee on TV in Elkhart Indiana flapping his gums trying to sound intelligent - the man doesn't have a clue about economics and it showed.

Huckabee! Where is the rapture when you need it?

521 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:08:01pm

When was the last time that so many officers were killed together after 911? I think this is it.

522 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:08:07pm

re: #506 arcatan

I'll put it simply: If we were to shut-up everyone who had wrong ideas there would be no one talking at all.

sure, but the malleability is the rub, right? i'm wrong all the time. but hopefully i'm more interested in discovering what's right than stubbornly assuming i'm right and bending reality to fit my wrong idea...

523 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:08:20pm

re: #518 DistantThunder

I saw the news tonight and it said "has died."

Prayers for the Officer's families.

524 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:08:34pm

re: #507 jcm

It is too bad he did that. It has mislead some Christians for over 100 years. They think that date is Biblical.

525 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:08:50pm

re: #518 DistantThunder

I saw the news tonight and it said "has died."

Well, once you're brain dead, what's the use?

526 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:08:58pm

re: #501 Gus 802

Cause it's fun? I don't know. I would never get an answer from a YECer.

Hey, they can have Earth birthdays. This year the Earth is 8009 years old. Next year it will be 8010 years old! ///

Common Rosh Hashanah 'kid service' activity is to have a birthday party for the world. The kids get cake, and write birthday cards to creation.

527 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:09:37pm

Mr DT was in LA today, and filmed for the Carosn Daly show which should aire the segment on Wednesday. It's on NBC, but I never usually can stay awake that late.

528 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:09:45pm

re: #509 jcm

Latest reports the 4th cop is brain dead.

I have it on good authority that the mayor of Oakland is also brain-dead, damn commie that he is. My prayers are the slain officers and their families.

529 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:09:51pm

If there ever is a rapture, the rest of us stuck here will get our choice from lots of cool cars left behind.

530 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:10:10pm

re: #525 Silvergirl

Well, once you're brain dead, what's the use?

All white cops. We've had 7 police officers murdered here in Philly since 2006. They are gunning for the cops.

531 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:10:18pm

re: #526 SanFranciscoZionist

Common Rosh Hashanah 'kid service' activity is to have a birthday party for the world. The kids get cake, and write birthday cards to creation.

Interesting. That's kind of neat in a way.

532 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:10:27pm

re: #518 DistantThunder
Hey DT - last I heard - about a half an hour or so ago, he was "brain dead" and the family was coping with the decision to take him off life support.

533 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:10:42pm

re: #529 Mich-again

If there ever is a rapture, the rest of us stuck here will get our choice from lots of cool cars left behind.

And Avanti will get all the Studebakers.

534 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:10:42pm

re: #515 jaunte

It wouldn't surprise me if Oakland had a hard time hiring any new police.

They've been advertising for people for some time.

535 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:10:52pm

re: #527 DistantThunder

Mr DT was in LA today, and filmed for the Carosn Daly show which should aire the segment on Wednesday. It's on NBC, but I never usually can stay awake that late.

Is he in a band? Carson showcases a lot of bands.

536 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:10:57pm

re: #524 BatGuano

It is too bad he did that. It has mislead some Christians for over 100 years. They think that date is Biblical.

although you gotta think the mislead weren't exactly poised to bark up the right tree...probably just morphed from vaguely misguided to very specifically misguided, eh?

537 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:10:59pm

Did you know that there is pet rapture insurance in the even that the rapture happens and you need after-rapture pet care. No joke.

538 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:11:11pm

re: #529 Mich-again

If there ever is a rapture, the rest of us stuck here will get our choice from lots of cool cars left behind.

And houses!

539 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:11:15pm

re: #532 realwest

Hey DT - last I heard - about a half an hour or so ago, he was "brain dead" and the family was coping with the decision to take him off life support.

We had to make the decision in my family for my daughter in law. Not easy, I can tell you.

540 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:11:15pm

re: #515 jaunte

It wouldn't surprise me if Oakland had a hard time hiring any new police.

Imagine a scenario where there existed a great shortage of police officers in a city the size of Oakland. Chaos and anarchy until the National Guard had to step in. Sounds like a made-for-tv movie.

541 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:11:43pm

re: #529 Mich-again

If there ever is a rapture, the rest of us stuck here will get our choice from lots of cool cars left behind.

Are you quoting Jerry Falwell? ;)

542 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:12:09pm

re: #540 solomonpanting

Near-future scenario?

543 jorline  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:12:20pm

Where do I cast my no confidence vote?

544 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:12:25pm

re: #537 DistantThunder

Did you know that there is pet rapture insurance in the even that the rapture happens and you need after-rapture pet care. No joke.

Wowowowow! I want in on that scam!

/Actually, no. I would not be able to sleep at night knowing I was ripping off the gullible.

545 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:12:35pm

re: #529 Mich-again

If there ever is a rapture, the rest of us stuck here will get our choice from lots of cool cars left behind.

Yeah. I'm not a believer in "the rapture" but I'm sure Huckabee is is, so that's where my comment came form.

546 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:12:43pm

re: #529 Mich-again

If there ever is a rapture, the rest of us stuck here will get our choice from lots of cool cars left behind.

Never considered that. You know, the Rapture is going to create a whole new area of law.

547 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:13:07pm

re: #529 Mich-again

If there ever is a rapture, the rest of us stuck here will get our choice from lots of cool cars left behind.

I'll take the'57 Chevrolet Bel Air convertible, or the '62 Shelby Cobra. Not particular.

548 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:13:19pm

re: #533 Walter L. Newton
Hey Walter "And Avanti will get all the Studebakers."
He's welcome to them.
I want the Lamborhinis, even if I can't spell their names!

549 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:13:25pm

re: #537 DistantThunder

Did you know that there is pet rapture insurance in the even that the rapture happens and you need after-rapture pet care. No joke.

i'm not kidding here. a friends mom sells life policies to cover the "deep freeze" maintenance. she was one of the first to do this.......

550 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:13:36pm

re: #537 DistantThunder

Did you know that there is pet rapture insurance in the even that the rapture happens and you need after-rapture pet care. No joke.

you're saying Fido gets left behind? dang.

551 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:13:36pm

re: #546 SanFranciscoZionist

Never considered that. You know, the Rapture is going to create a whole new area of law.

The title work is going to be "hellish."

552 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:13:48pm

re: #507 jcm

A fellow by the name of Bishop James Ussher in the late 17th century sat down and compiled all the genealogies and ages of people in the Bible and calculated the earth was created in 4004 B.C.

There are enough people who, with all sincerity, will tell you the exact date and time Creation was started. Yet ask them why Jesus was born around 6 B.C., again thanks to Bishop Ussher, and you get a deer caught in the headlights look.

553 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:13:49pm

re: #546 SanFranciscoZionist

Never considered that. You know, the Rapture is going to create a whole new area of law.

From what I understand of it, the blue states and major cities will remain populated.

554 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:13:51pm

re: #540 solomonpanting

Imagine a scenario where there existed a great shortage of police officers in a city the size of Oakland. Chaos and anarchy until the National Guard had to step in. Sounds like a made-for-tv movie.

It would never be made. Unless they could find a way to blame the GOP for the shortage and then depict the National Guardsmen as kill-crazy losers.

/not really kidding

555 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:13:56pm

re: #535 SummerSong

Is he in a band? Carson showcases a lot of bands.

He is a survival instructor for military and law enforcement, and select civilians. The segment was filmed at the home of author Neill Strauss, who has written a book on preparedness, and MR DT is featured in the book. So now Neill has goats, for milk and cheese and chickens for eggs, and food storage, and the skills necessary to shelter in place or to evacuate LA. This is in chi chi Laurel Canyon so he had to get a "petting zoo" permit for the animals. Hilarious.

556 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:13:57pm

re: #473 realwest

I like his stream-of-consciousness style. I "get" him.

557 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:14:35pm

re: #540 solomonpanting

Imagine a scenario where there existed a great shortage of police officers in a city the size of Oakland. Chaos and anarchy until the National Guard had to step in. Sounds like a made-for-tv movie.

There's parts of Oakland where I swear just that has happened, and the Guard has yet to arrive.

558 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:14:39pm

re: #547 BatGuano

I'll take the'57 Chevrolet Bel Air convertible, or the '62 Shelby Cobra. Not particular.

Not me. I want a D9 bulldozer!

559 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:15:46pm

re: #543 jorline
Hey jorline! When you find out, please tell us all so we can all cast our no confidence vote!
Wonder what the hell's going on - twice this week ABC ran critical pieces about Obama and the administration in general, add in Kroft and CBS has two. Is it possible that there's a slight crack of light seeping in through the MSM shell guarding Obama?

560 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:16:16pm

re: #557 SanFranciscoZionist

There's parts of Oakland where I swear just that has happened, and the Guard has yet to arrive.

Come to think of it, parts of Mexico are like this.

561 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:16:18pm

re: #552 FurryOldGuyJeans

There are enough people who, with all sincerity, will tell you the exact date and time Creation was started. Yet ask them why Jesus was born around 6 B.C., again thanks to Bishop Ussher, and you get a deer caught in the headlights look.

I wonder how many of those sincere people have heard of Bishop Ussher?

562 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:16:22pm

re: #490 realwest

Hey ggt - don't mind coaxing silent down-dingers to the bbq, but I'm bored with roasting creationists.

They don't cook as well, do they?

564 SummerSong  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:16:32pm

re: #555 DistantThunder

He is a survival instructor for military and law enforcement, and select civilians. The segment was filmed at the home of author Neill Strauss, who has written a book on preparedness, and MR DT is featured in the book. So now Neill has goats, for milk and cheese and chickens for eggs, and food storage, and the skills necessary to shelter in place or to evacuate LA. This is in chi chi Laurel Canyon so he had to get a "petting zoo" permit for the animals. Hilarious.

If wednesday night is another sleepless night, I will watch!

565 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:16:46pm

re: #559 realwest
CYA time. But it's too late for the msm.

566 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:16:49pm

I am wondering if Croft will survive his punch-drunk remark.

567 avanti  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:17:06pm

re: #537 DistantThunder

Did you know that there is pet rapture insurance in the even that the rapture happens and you need after-rapture pet care. No joke.

Post rapture pet care.

568 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:17:06pm

re: #558 Mich-again

Not me. I want a D9 bulldozer!

I want an SUV for my commute....

569 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:17:33pm

re: #566 Wishing

I am wondering if Croft will survive his punch-drunk remark.

"it was an offhanded remark" sound familiar?/

570 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:17:40pm

re: #560 solomonpanting

Come to think of it, parts of Mexico are like this.

When my folks and I were in Mexico for a family wedding last summer, we saw a bunch of VERY heavily armed Army groups on the roadside. My dad kept slowing down the rental car because he wanted to look at the guns. My mother and I thought this might be a poor idea.

571 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:17:57pm

re: #498 DistantThunder

Did ya all hear about the 4 police officers murdered on Oakland yesterday. Traffic stop, outstanding warrants, 2 killed at the scene, then the perp flees. When the responders show up, the crowd is heckling the police. They find the guy 2 blocks away barricaded into an apartment and 2 more cops get shot and killed. One survived to today.

That's horrible. Did they get the criminals? Prayers to the families of the officers.

Cops have probably the worst job I can think of.

572 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:17:59pm

re: #563 Killgore Trout

Website Lets You Send a Post-Rapture E-Mail to Friends 'Left Behind'

I wish I thought of that way to fleece the flock.

573 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:18:44pm

re: #569 phoenixgirl

"it was an offhanded remark" sound familiar?/

This is the kind of pummeling that obama would have taken from an older brother, but given that he was an only child, he's kind of a jerk. The alpha's sense this weakness, and want a straight answer from him. Good luck with that.

574 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:18:51pm

re: #571 ggt

Killed on the scene. Apparently he opened fire on the other police officers from a closed closet.

575 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:18:51pm

re: #565 pingjockey
Hey ping - yeah it's too late for the MSM, but ya know with the MSM, they can turn on you likethat - and payback is always a bitch.

576 JBOTW  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:18:58pm

This is hilarious! To think a thousand years ago my ancestors were fighting T-Rexes.

577 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:19:03pm

re: #563 Killgore Trout

For just $40 a year, believers can arrange for up to 62 people to get a final message exactly six days after the Rapture, that day when -- according to Christian end times dogma -- Christians will be swept up to heaven, while doubters are left behind to suffer seven years of Tribulation under a global government headed by the Antichrist.

Price gouging! There are lots of reputable spammers that can beat that price a hundred-fold.

578 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:19:10pm

re: #571 ggt

They killed the POS. Justice prevailed in this case.

579 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:19:14pm

re: #427 swamprat

I have forgotten whether the balls were fed to the dragon prior to stabbing, or just as a poison. It was in the book of Daniel and is not in the King James version.

I seem to remember a story from one of my middle-school readers, about an Eskimo kid (this was before "Eskimo" came to be considered politically incorrect) who killed a polar bear that was threatening his village by coiling sharpened strips of springy whalebone into hollowed-out hunks of frozen whale blubber, and feeding these nasty little bombs to the polar bear, which subsequently died of a perforated intestine.

580 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:19:26pm

re: #572 jcm

I wish I thought of that way to fleece the flock.

Maybe we could start a company where the ones who will be leaving could put a message to their family, not in email (how cheesy!) but on DVD. Upgrade em a bit!

581 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:19:27pm

re: #571 ggt

That's horrible. Did they get the criminals? Prayers to the families of the officers.

Cops have probably the worst job I can think of.

The shooter is dead.

582 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:19:28pm

re: #571 ggt

That's horrible. Did they get the criminals? Prayers to the families of the officers.

Cops have probably the worst job I can think of.

The guy was killed by the police which was probably the best outcome. It's over, in one sense.

583 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:19:30pm

re: #572 jcm
Still not as good as ManBearPigs carbon dispensations scam.

584 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:20:09pm

re: #573 DistantThunder

This is the kind of pummeling that obama would have taken from an older brother, but given that he was an only child, he's kind of a jerk. The alpha's sense this weakness, and want a straight answer from him. Good luck with that.

exactly

585 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:20:40pm

re: #561 jcm

I wonder how many of those sincere people have heard of Bishop Ussher?

3 people who were able to tell me the exact date and time of creation had not a clue who the good Bishop was, and his colossal mistakes he made.

586 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:21:02pm

re: #440 Gus 802

And this park is endorsed by two neurosurgeons? What is this a cult?

Promoting future business? Lobotomies R Us?

587 Timbre  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:21:10pm

...And in a related story, Discovery Institute theotists scoffed at a target price of $500,000 for a 9-foot-long Jurassic-era dryosaurus -- a long-necked, plant-eating dinosaur, on auction at the I.M. Chait Gallery. Chief Theotist Weir Young stated, "Who on God's green Earth would pay $500,000 for a 5,000 year old dryosaurus? These creatures couldn't even do battle with the Knights Templar soldiers."

588 jorline  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:21:19pm

re: #559 realwest

Hey jorline! When you find out, please tell us all so we can all cast our no confidence vote!
Wonder what the hell's going on - twice this week ABC ran critical pieces about Obama and the administration in general, add in Kroft and CBS has two. Is it possible that there's a slight crack of light seeping in through the MSM shell guarding Obama?

Hey, RW...good to see you.

There is a definite crack in PBO's armor.

Avanti, let he POTUS know "The Fat Lady" is singing!

589 pingjockey  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:21:20pm

re: #575 realwest
Just breaks my heart! Not!
Night folks!

590 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:21:21pm

re: #573 DistantThunder

but given that he was an only child, he's kind of a jerk.

Hey. I thought he had a brother named George living in a box in Kenya.

591 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:21:47pm

re: #558 Mich-again

Not me. I want a D9 bulldozer!

re: #586 Alberta Oil Peon

Promoting future business? Lobotomies R Us?

Ha! That's good. Future patients. ;)

592 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:21:54pm

re: #567 avanti

OT - Avanti. I just found the funniest thing posted on the Obama 60 minute interview thread. I was working at the theatre, so I missed the thread and the interview, but I was looking over the thread, and someone posted this paragraph, using your name...

Not surprisingly, I think the interview will help him. Since he started his charm offensive this week, his gallop approval poll numbers are going up. He's getting his ducks in a row for the new budget. The folks that like BHO will like the interview, those that don't, won't. Personally, I think he needs to be careful to not do a media blitz like this every week, or it'll backfire at some point.

If I were you, I would email Charles and tell him that someone is using your account or something like that, because something must be wrong.

I don't think you're even crazy enough to have posted that statement.

593 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:22:05pm

Oops. Double references.

594 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:22:19pm

re: #590 Mich-again

Hey. I thought he had a brother named George living in a box in Kenya.

well he was raised for the most part as an only child by the grandparents

595 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:22:21pm

re: #379 Emerald
My knowledge is not broad enough to dispute that. But that is certainly one broad, far reaching assertion.

596 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:22:29pm

re: #575 realwest

Hey ping - yeah it's too late for the MSM, but ya know with the MSM, they can turn on you likethat - and payback is always a bitch.

Eventually we'll even have Katie Couric asking him about his choice of reading material. Maybe asking if he ever thought to read the stimulus bill(s).

597 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:22:42pm

re: #590 Mich-again
Hey Mich - his brother is living in a hut, damnit, not some crumby ole box, he's got his own hut!
/

598 revobob  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:22:45pm

re: #579 Alberta Oil Peon

I seem to remember a story from one of my middle-school readers, about an Eskimo kid (this was before "Eskimo" came to be considered politically incorrect) who killed a polar bear that was threatening his village by coiling sharpened strips of springy whalebone into hollowed-out hunks of frozen whale blubber, and feeding these nasty little bombs to the polar bear, which subsequently died of a perforated intestine.

Also an A.E. Van Voght sci-fi story where some dire beasty was ravaging colonists- similar technique- mebbe the colonist was Inuit?

599 Aviator  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:22:51pm

re: #580 Wishing

Maybe we could start a company where the ones who will be leaving could put a message to their family, not in email (how cheesy!) but on DVD. Upgrade em a bit!

What region did you have in mind?

600 UncleSam  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:23:17pm

re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Embarrassed to admit it; me too...

I could never stand The Moody Blues.
Pretentious wimpy overblown art-rock.
Ugh....

Procul Harum, on the other hand, was rockin' art-rock.

601 ArchangelMichael  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:23:24pm

re: #537 DistantThunder

Did you know that there is pet rapture insurance in the even that the rapture happens and you need after-rapture pet care. No joke.

I need to get into this racket. How do you go about starting this business?

602 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:23:37pm

re: #592 Walter L. Newton

ROFLMAO

/bbiab, have to clean computer screen.

603 revobob  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:23:44pm

re: #580 Wishing

Maybe we could start a company where the ones who will be leaving could put a message to their family, not in email (how cheesy!) but on DVD. Upgrade em a bit!


Make sure you get the right regional version though!...

604 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:24:05pm

re: #580 Wishing

Maybe we could start a company where the ones who will be leaving could put a message to their family, not in email (how cheesy!) but on DVD. Upgrade em a bit!

extra car insurance coverage....in case the rapture occurs while they are driving

605 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:24:18pm

re: #593 Gus 802
Hey Gus 802 - how are ya tonight?

606 Syrah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:24:20pm

re: #592 Walter L. Newton

It reads like Avanti.

607 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:24:21pm

Wow- I didn't realize the amount of money there was to be made in the Rapture business. Damn my conscience.

608 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:24:33pm

re: #585 FurryOldGuyJeans

3 people who were able to tell me the exact date and time of creation had not a clue who the good Bishop was, and his colossal mistakes he made.

So much for Acts 17:11 and proving scripture.........

609 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:24:48pm

re: #597 realwest

Hey Mich - his brother is living in a hut, damnit, not some crumby ole box, he's got his own hut!
/

Life is good there; plenty of goat meat:
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

610 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:24:52pm

re: #598 revobob

If you pay attention to myths and stories, a lot of SF authours have bored heavily from them for their muse. The good ones will even tell you how they decided to do it.

611 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:24:53pm

He was raised by his grandparents which is why he turned out half-way competent at all. But he's and narcissist, raised without real Christianity.

It reminds me of 2 Sunday's ago when my 8 year old son came home with a sticker on his shirt from church. It said, "Ask me about the keys to happiness." So I asked him and he he said: Service to others and self control.

Marxists are not kind.

612 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:24:58pm

re: #574 BlueCanuck

Killed on the scene. Apparently he opened fire on the other police officers from a closed closet.

OMG No way they could have seen that coming.

613 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:25:10pm

re: #563 Killgore Trout

Website Lets You Send a Post-Rapture E-Mail to Friends 'Left Behind'

$40 per year? so life doesn't mutate but programming does? what in heaven's name are they doing with the second year's $40 that the first year's fee doesn't cover?

while i'm at it, and i know i'm not supposed to look a crazy horse in the mouth, but a smart rapture-awaiter would know this is a con, right? doesn't it have to be monitored by someone who knows they won't be raptured - i.e. they don't believe in it - i.e. they're fleecing the folks who do?

614 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:25:16pm

re: #602 BlueCanuck

ROFLMAO

/bbiab, have to clean computer screen.

Screen cleaning at your service.

615 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:25:16pm

re: #559 realwest

Hey jorline! When you find out, please tell us all so we can all cast our no confidence vote!
Wonder what the hell's going on - twice this week ABC ran critical pieces about Obama and the administration in general, add in Kroft and CBS has two. Is it possible that there's a slight crack of light seeping in through the MSM shell guarding Obama?

I think Jim Cramer on CNBC started the whole kerfuffle. The leftoids expect as a matter of course that O would be subjected to the VRWC, but with a loyal O-bot cracking the dam the floodgates aren't enough.

616 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:25:45pm

re: #605 realwest

Hey Gus 802 - how are ya tonight?

Hi Realwest. Doing OK. Nice quiet night so far -- knock on wood. Went for a short drive this afternoon around town.

Yourself?

617 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:26:29pm

re: #606 Syrah

It reads like Avanti.

Er, it is written by Avanti. I was being sarcastic, VERY sarcastic.

618 ArchangelMichael  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:27:07pm

re: #607 Sharmuta

I'm sure if I knew more about it I could write a series of best selling novels that would be much better written and entertaining than the Left Behind tripe. I have a problem profiting from stupidity or ignorance but willful ignorance, not so much.

619 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:27:09pm

re: #599 Aviator

What region did you have in mind?

re: #603 revobob

Make sure you get the right regional version though!...

lolol

620 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:27:12pm

re: #613 Aceofwhat?

$40 per year? so life doesn't mutate but programming does? what in heaven's name are they doing with the second year's $40 that the first year's fee doesn't cover?

while i'm at it, and i know i'm not supposed to look a crazy horse in the mouth, but a smart rapture-awaiter would know this is a con, right? doesn't it have to be monitored by someone who knows they won't be raptured - i.e. they don't believe in it - i.e. they're fleecing the folks who do?

There's a sucker born every minute.

And my guess is that the people ripping off the gullible will be shocked to learn Jesus is not amused.

621 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:27:16pm

If you want to watch the 60 minutes interview you go go over to DKos....
President Obama on 60 Minutes (Transcript & Video)
The "punch drunk" line happens somewhere in the first segment

622 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:27:32pm

re: #607 Sharmuta

Wow- I didn't realize the amount of money there was to be made in the Rapture business. Damn my conscience.

And Sharm, you're sitting pretty for being left behind - No?

623 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:27:32pm

re: #574 BlueCanuck

Killed on the scene. Apparently he opened fire on the other police officers from a closed closet.

I hope it's not in bad form to say: good.

624 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:27:50pm

re: #606 Syrah Hi Syrah!
Yes it does read like Avanti - meanwhile Rasmussen's daily polling of Likely Voters has Obama down to a +4 in their tracking (that is to say he's dropped another two points in Likely Voter Favorability ratings). Funny though, if that WAS Avanti, I woulda expected a pre-emptive strike against Rasmussen in that comment right after mentioning Gallup!

625 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:28:22pm

re: #588 jorline

Hey, RW...good to see you.

There is a definite crack in PBO's armor.

Avanti, let he POTUS know "The Fat Lady" is singing!

In one of the links on the front page earlier today I read an article with this photo. He's cracking alright. His feet and legs are crumbling like old Greek columns.

626 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:28:27pm

re: #624 realwest

Real... it is Avanti. I was being sarcastic.

627 revobob  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:28:29pm

re: #610 BlueCanuck

If you pay attention to myths and stories, a lot of SF authours have bored heavily from them for their muse. The good ones will even tell you how they decided to do it.


I know- I love guys like David Drake who use factual history as a foundation for their stories. I have all the Belisarius books and re-read the whole series about twice a year (good thing about gettin older- I don't have to spend nearly as much on new books...)

628 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:28:55pm

re: #621 Killgore Trout

If you want to watch the 60 minutes interview you go go over to DKos....
President Obama on 60 Minutes (Transcript & Video)
The "punch drunk" line happens somewhere in the first segment

About 13:00 min mark Part 1

629 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:28:58pm

re: #533 Walter L. Newton

And Avanti will get all the Studebakers.

Naw, he and I will have to fight over 'em.

630 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:29:04pm

re: #622 DistantThunder

And Sharm, you're sitting pretty for being left behind - No?

No- I'm sitting kinda manly at the moment. :p

631 Syrah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:29:06pm

re: #617 Walter L. Newton

ok.

632 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:29:23pm

Genesis chapter 5 has lots of factoids about how many "years" a man lived before he had children followed by how many total years he lived. If you replace years with months it makes more sense for the lifespan, typically 800 or so "years" although replacing years with months would indicate the early humans had offspring at a very young age by our standards. Which doesn't surprise me all that much I guess.

Not sure how the YEC's deal with all the generations of people in Genesis 5 who allegedly lived for 900 years or so.

633 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:29:24pm

Aren't gas prices about to go up again since the dollar is damaged by this extra trillion? Soaring gas prices and electric prices will do wonders for his approval numbers./sarc

634 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:29:26pm

re: #614 jcm

Screen cleaning at your service.

What about Post Rapture Computer Care?

635 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:30:05pm

re: #537 DistantThunder

Did you know that there is pet rapture insurance in the even that the rapture happens and you need after-rapture pet care. No joke.

How will you know if the company is honest, and actually pays off?

636 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:30:07pm

re: #612 Pvt Bin Jammin
Hey PBJ! Actually two officers were shot when they made a traffic stop on this guy; the other two he shot from inside the closet.
Hey have you seen Sage lately? He's hardly ever out here and doesn't respond to my e-mails either!

637 solomonpanting  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:30:29pm

re: #570 SanFranciscoZionist

When my folks and I were in Mexico for a family wedding last summer, we saw a bunch of VERY heavily armed Army groups on the roadside. My dad kept slowing down the rental car because he wanted to look at the guns. My mother and I thought this might be a poor idea.


The army has been fulfilling that role for many years in Mexico. On a trip to Guymas in the 70's with a couple of others, we were stopped by several members of that fine institution (/) on a lonesome stretch of highway. They were looking for drugs, found none, which, I believe, pissed them off, and finally let us pass.

638 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:30:48pm

re: #628 Wishing

Thanks. I was getting really tired of listening to this crap.

639 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:30:57pm

re: #634 FurryOldGuyJeans

What about Post Rapture Computer Care?

There's gotta be a job in there somewhere!

640 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:31:09pm

re: #635 Alberta Oil Peon

How will you know if the company is honest, and actually pays off?

Because you can look down on them from heaven - duh.

641 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:31:45pm

60 Minutes Kroft To Joking Obama "Are You Punch Drunk?"

Short and specific clip.

Well, I guess they really are laughing at us.

642 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:31:48pm

re: #638 Killgore Trout

A really good look at last week's episode... karma abounds in that episode...

[Link: www.docarzt.com...]

643 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:32:14pm

re: #633 DistantThunder

I think gas prices are still pretty low. The Dollar is still pretty damn strong.

644 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:32:26pm

re: #635 Alberta Oil Peon

How will you know if the company is honest, and actually pays off?

Man, that question needs to be asked of the O voters. ;)

645 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:32:26pm

re: #616 Gus 802
Not bad at all, thank you - just a little bit tired though.
I will say that reading that Kroft interview sure made me sit up and say WHOA!
Was that aired tonight, do you know (I never watch CBS or any of the major networks)?

646 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:32:53pm

re: #642 Walter L. Newton
Thanks, reading now......

647 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:32:55pm

re: #399 SummerSong

Some CA desert people are a little wacky...

...and some just freaking rock!

648 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:33:05pm

re: #597 realwest

his brother is living in a hut, damnit, not some crumby ole box, he's got his own hut!

Sorry you are so right. The word "Box" conjures up images of .. well, Boxes. I am glad to hear George Obama is a hut dweller instead of having to live in a box.

649 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:33:20pm

Excellent Books:

Defiance - Jews surviving in the woods - really.
The Unforgiving Minute - The education of a soldier and Rhodes Scholar
The Warrior Soul - Navy Seal memoir

I've had such a good time reading these books - really touching and well written.

650 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:33:33pm

re: #632 Mich-again

Genesis chapter 5 has lots of factoids about how many "years" a man lived before he had children followed by how many total years he lived. If you replace years with months it makes more sense for the lifespan, typically 800 or so "years" although replacing years with months would indicate the early humans had offspring at a very young age by our standards. Which doesn't surprise me all that much I guess.

Not sure how the YEC's deal with all the generations of people in Genesis 5 who allegedly lived for 900 years or so.

There's a similar issue about the number of people travelling with Moses--'elef' in medieval/modern Hebrew is a thousand, but it's been suggested that in the period it referred to a war unit, possibly of five to ten men, which makes the number of people surging across the Sinai desert a lot more rational sounding.

651 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:33:52pm

re: #611 DistantThunder

Daughter came home and told me that "all catholics were going to hell. We decided she should learn which hell; (Solomons death without knowledge or praise, /or "worm dieth not" /or evil burnt like dross, leaving the silver, /or....)

She studied and studied, came to the conclusion that most religions were pretty much the same....
and became a Pagan.
But she is an educated, knowledgeable Pagan.

652 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:34:04pm

re: #621 Killgore Trout
Hey Kilgore - since you went over to that sewar, I hope wearing your hazmat suit, what were they saying about it?

653 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:34:17pm

re: #645 realwest

Not bad at all, thank you - just a little bit tired though.
I will say that reading that Kroft interview sure made me sit up and say WHOA!
Was that aired tonight, do you know (I never watch CBS or any of the major networks)?

Just posted a video clip here.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Or #641 above.

Yeah, it was aired tonight. I was pretty flabbergasted.

654 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:34:24pm

re: #641 Gus 802

Appalling.

655 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:34:27pm

re: #636 realwest

I haven't seen him for two weeks. He was a little under the weather for awhile. Just thinking earlier that I need to check in with him.

He has a lot of fun posting at this little blog for dirt bike enthusiasts. I think he mostly hangs out there. They have a members only section where they talks politics or whatever.

656 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:34:31pm

re: #633 DistantThunder

Aren't gas prices about to go up again since the dollar is damaged by this extra trillion? Soaring gas prices and electric prices will do wonders for his approval numbers./sarc

Gas prices are going up again. They usually do in the summer. Then we get to watch a whole 'nother series of Congressional Hearings on C-SPAN regarding the price of gas. Every year like clock-work, they grill the oil company CEO's and try act like they are doing something about it.

657 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:35:06pm

re: #626 Walter L. Newton
I know Walter - I was just playing along, trying to draw him out since he didn't fall for your Studebaker line!

658 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:35:08pm

re: #537 DistantThunder

Did you know that there is pet rapture insurance in the even that the rapture happens and you need after-rapture pet care. No joke.

re: #635 Alberta Oil Peon

How will you know if the company is honest, and actually pays off?


well, exactly! any company who expects to be here post-rapture is by definition advertising themselves as belonging to a slightly different philosophical code than their customers, right? Sharmuta's answer was that a sucker is born every minute but wow - you have to be a carnival xlarge lollipop to buy this one...

659 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:35:14pm

re: #613 Aceofwhat?

I'm sorry you feel this way; send me five dollars and I will pray for you.

660 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:35:27pm

re: #651 swamprat

Daughter came home and told me that "all catholics were going to hell. We decided she should learn which hell; (Solomons death without knowledge or praise, /or "worm dieth not" /or evil burnt like dross, leaving the silver, /or....)

She studied and studied, came to the conclusion that most religions were pretty much the same....
and became a Pagan.
But she is an educated, knowledgeable Pagan.

Oh dear. Tell her that by their fruits, she will know the good from the bad, and the better from the best.

661 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:35:29pm

re: #656 ggt

Oil executives are going to get retroactive 90% tax hikes too.

662 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:36:00pm

Steyn's filling in for Rush tomorrow ...should be very interesting.

663 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:36:42pm

re: #662 pink freud

Steyn's filling in for Rush tomorrow ...should be very interesting.

His weekend column was laugh-out-loud: the usual.

664 RandyinWash  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:36:57pm

Exposing some of these creationists gives me good examples to use in various arguments I have from time to time with some explicit bible based people I know. At least the ones I argue with, they tend to back off when confronted with the ridiculous. At least, to me.

Twisting scripture into knots to explain dinosaurs or discount evolution distracts from the primary message of faith and makes the whole thing look crazy. You can have faith and still explore science. If anything, the more I learn of the world through science, the more I am amazed at our creation. Faith and science can be compatible if you are reasonable.

665 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:36:59pm

Ok, after watching the Obama laugh segment i don't think it's any big deal. It was exasperated laughter. I do the same thing when I look at the dow on some days. The economy is so pitifully bad that I laugh about it too. No big deal.

666 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:36:59pm

re: #661 Sharmuta

Oil executives are going to get retroactive 90% tax hikes too.

And soon there won't be anyone left willing to be an executive. Which I think is part of Obama's plan.

667 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:37:51pm

re: #661 Sharmuta

Oil executives are going to get retroactive 90% tax hikes too.

There are Congress Critters chompin' at the bit for years to nationalize the oil companies.

Grrrrrr.

668 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:38:05pm

re: #659 swamprat

I'm sorry you feel this way; send me five dollars and I will pray for you.

if i send you ten, will you make it extra special?

669 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:38:05pm

re: #652 realwest

They're pretty much just ranting about how fantastic Obama is. The rest of the interview was pretty dull from what I can tell.

670 Pietr  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:38:10pm

re: #500 Mich-again

It was a long time before written history was available to man. In olden times, they had elders who memorized and passed it on orally; some tribes in Africa still do so, IIRC. But that leaves room for error, as man is not perfect........

671 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:38:37pm

re: #665 Killgore Trout

I think my unemployed former co-workers might think the President laughing about the state of the economy is a big deal.

672 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:39:06pm

re: #667 ggt

There are Congress Critters chompin' at the bit for years to nationalize the oil companies.

Grrrrrr.

Waters:nationalize NOW!

673 lostlakehiker  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:39:44pm

re: #39 Aceofwhat?

Ya, caught that too. but i can at least picture how a group of crazy spear guys takes a weak mammoth down. i can't picture how any self-respecting theropod goes down without taking half of william wallace's army down with him...(yes, i'm mixing centuries - templars wore white - we know, we know)

All the megafauna die off promptly when Man the Hunter shows on the scene. Australia, Europe, the Americas...

so Occam's razor said it was man who killed off the mammoths.

674 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:40:18pm

re: #671 Sharmuta

I think my unemployed former co-workers might think the President laughing about the state of the economy is a big deal.

At the very least it's flippant on his part.

675 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:40:32pm

re: #665 Killgore Trout

Ok, after watching the Obama laugh segment i don't think it's any big deal. It was exasperated laughter. I do the same thing when I look at the dow on some days. The economy is so pitifully bad that I laugh about it too. No big deal.

He is not feeling our pain. He's arrogant. Warren Buffet and the NYT's have questioned his judgement. He has ZERO economic experience. Illinois and Chicago have been run into the ground. There are TWO FBI units assigned to Chicago because corruption is so pervasive. Chicago is a cesspool. Obama is completely incompetent at governing. So the jokes on all of us.

Nothing in Obama's background suggests that he is any but a radical.

676 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:40:47pm

re: #653 Gus 802
Thanks, saw that - were you flabbergasted at Obama or at Kroft? I swear I thought Kroft was gonna lose it right then and there.
And maybe it's just me,but Obama's laughter seemed a little forced or contrived.

677 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:41:04pm

re: #665 Killgore Trout

Ok, after watching the Obama laugh segment i don't think it's any big deal. It was exasperated laughter. I do the same thing when I look at the dow on some days. The economy is so pitifully bad that I laugh about it too. No big deal.

that's the point, though, right - you get to laugh because you didn't ask to be the prez. and if bush had laughed (and i'm no defender of the ex-prez's dearth of eloquence), they'd be saying he doesn't get it. i laugh about the DJI in private, but if i were the prez, i'd think about folks' retirement accounts going down the drain and i think i could conjure up a straight face...

678 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:42:06pm

I'll say it: Obama doesn't get it.

679 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:42:31pm

re: #676 realwest

Thanks, saw that - were you flabbergasted at Obama or at Kroft? I swear I thought Kroft was gonna lose it right then and there.
And maybe it's just me,but Obama's laughter seemed a little forced or contrived.

After watching the clip which I didn't before I'm kind of mad at both of them -- because they're both laughing it off. I took a 25% hit last year in invoicing.

680 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:42:42pm

re: #671 Sharmuta

I think my unemployed former co-workers might think the President laughing about the state of the economy is a big deal.

I hear ya.

Dang, I turned on sixty minutes but was distracted at the beginning so didn't hear that part. Guess I have to don my hazmat gear and go over to the Kos.

681 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:42:44pm

re: #675 DistantThunder

We'll see how it plays with the public but I'm not expecting much outrage over this one.

682 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:42:50pm

And I think Obama does get it, sees the devastation and is just tickled.

683 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:43:11pm

re: #675 DistantThunder

He is not feeling our pain. He's arrogant. Warren Buffet and the NYT's have questioned his judgement. He has ZERO economic experience. Illinois and Chicago have been run into the ground. There are TWO FBI units assigned to Chicago because corruption is so pervasive. Chicago is a cesspool. Obama is completely incompetent at governing. So the jokes on all of us.

Nothing in Obama's background suggests that he is any but a radical.

At least bill clinton had the tact to fake tears when he was supposed to be crying.

684 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:43:40pm

re: #662 pink freud

Steyn's filling in for Rush tomorrow ...should be very interesting.

Anybody know if there is a site that streams the show on the 'net? No decent radio reception here.

685 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:43:48pm

re: #660 DistantThunder

She's in her 30's. I have grandchildren.

686 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:43:56pm

re: #682 Wishing

And I think Obama does get it, sees the devastation and is just tickled.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

687 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:44:48pm

re: #672 Wishing

Waters:nationalize NOW!

GRRRRRRRR!

688 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:45:02pm

re: #665 Killgore Trout

The man is sitting on top of the world with a guaranteed job, the economy he is savaging is not going to effect him greatly. He is laughing at all the fools stupid enough to fall for his con.

689 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:45:09pm

Obama needed military schooling. He needed some staff sergeant to rip him up one side and down the other and wipe that juvenile grim off his face and show some DAMN RESPECT to the Tortured Taxpayers of this country.

690 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:45:11pm

re: #684 Alberta Oil Peon

Anybody know if there is a site that streams the show on the 'net? No decent radio reception here.

Big Talker out of Philly (just put big talker in google)

691 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:45:19pm

re: #686 jcm

I was thinking the exact same thing.

As was I. Obama wants chaos to allow him to push through his agenda.

692 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:45:40pm

re: #684 Alberta Oil Peon

Anybody know if there is a site that streams the show on the 'net? No decent radio reception here.

1210 WPHT Philly [Link: www.thebigtalker.com...]

693 Desert Dog  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:45:41pm

re: #679 Gus 802

After watching the clip which I didn't before I'm kind of mad at both of them -- because they're both laughing it off. I took a 25% hit last year in invoicing.

I was down 25% in the 3rd quarter of 2008 and a whopping 35% in the 4th. The first quarter of this year was down almost 25% from last year same time. I am not sure industry you are in, but my business in air freight and logistics is taking it in the shorts everyday.

694 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:46:17pm

Just watched it again. He's laughing at how ridiculously unpopular his decision to give money to the auto industry. I don't see a huge problem here. We'll have to wait and see but don't expect much outrage.

695 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:46:21pm

re: #690 Wishing

Big Talker out of Philly (just put big talker in google)

Thanks very much!

696 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:46:27pm

re: #693 Desert Dog

I was down 25% in the 3rd quarter of 2008 and a whopping 35% in the 4th. The first quarter of this year was down almost 25% from last year same time. I am not sure industry you are in, but my business in air freight and logistics is taking it in the shorts everyday.

You see the FED EX crash today? FX channel happened to have Castaway on.

697 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:46:28pm

re: #686 jcm

I was thinking the exact same thing.

He is having a grand old time being the Chicago grifter having pulled off one of the biggest cons of all time.

698 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:46:28pm

re: #673 lostlakehiker

All the megafauna die off promptly when Man the Hunter shows on the scene. Australia, Europe, the Americas...

so Occam's razor said it was man who killed off the mammoths.

but dinosaurs? pre-gunpowder man made his impact, but dinosaurs put the 'mega' in megafauna. i think we'd have heard more than the occasional dragon legend...

699 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:46:34pm

It's NOT presidential to be laughing about an economic crisis that's affecting the entire planet ON CAMERA.

700 phoenixgirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:46:42pm

re: #688 FurryOldGuyJeans

The man is sitting on top of the world with a guaranteed job, the economy he is savaging is not going to effect him greatly. He is laughing at all the fools stupid enough to fall for his con.

no, i think he's laughing at those who weren't stupid enough to vote for him because while he's sticking it to everyone in the country, he's loving that he's sticking it to right most of all.

701 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:46:45pm

re: #689 DistantThunder

Obama needed military schooling. He needed some staff sergeant to rip him up one side and down the other and wipe that juvenile grim off his face and show some DAMN RESPECT to the Tortured Taxpayers of this country.

Think what a leader he would have been if he had.

702 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:46:49pm

re: #679 Gus 802
Well I still think Kroft was surprised and sorta stunned for a minute there and Obama's laughing was sorta forced or something - didn't strike me as genuine the first few times.
As for "I took a 25% hit last year in invoicing." I assume that you didn't find that one bit humorous did you. I don't honestly see anything "funny" about what's happening and gonna happen if Obama's budget passes as is, about the economy.

703 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:47:05pm

re: #689 DistantThunder

Obama needed military schooling. He needed some staff sergeant to rip him up one side and down the other and wipe that juvenile grim off his face and show some DAMN RESPECT to the Tortured Taxpayers of this country.

That probably would have worked. Obama needed a firm male guiding hand when he was a boy and he did not find one until he much older.

704 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:47:14pm

re: #694 Killgore Trout

And you could very well be right because no one cares.

705 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:47:36pm

re: #693 Desert Dog

I was down 25% in the 3rd quarter of 2008 and a whopping 35% in the 4th. The first quarter of this year was down almost 25% from last year same time. I am not sure industry you are in, but my business in air freight and logistics is taking it in the shorts everyday.

I haven't checked so far for this year. I'm down to one client and scraping along. Nothing like 2007.

706 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:48:32pm

re: #694 Killgore Trout

Where is that video? I couldn't find it.

707 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:48:39pm

Kroft will be up close and personal with some steel belted radials, is my guess.

708 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:48:46pm

re: #699 Sharmuta

It's NOT presidential to be laughing about an economic crisis that's affecting the entire planet ON CAMERA.

People are committing suicide, families are being evicted, everyone is on pins and needles, the end of America as we know it, the Chinese and Russians are circling like sharks, the NKoreans are launching missiles, Iran is telling Obama to pound sand.

Very, very, very funny....

709 Desert Dog  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:49:16pm

re: #696 DistantThunder

You see the FED EX crash today? FX channel happened to have Castaway on.

I've seen that movie, but I saw the actual crash of DHL a few months ago when they ceased domestic operations. That is a customer of mine and that's part of my current predicament.

710 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:49:29pm

re: #702 realwest

Right. It's not funny because frankly I haven't found Obama and the Democrats policies funny since 2006. It's the whole package as you know and I am already outraged.

711 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:49:35pm

re: #706 Pvt Bin Jammin

Where is that video? I couldn't find it.

60 minutes

712 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:49:53pm

re: #689 DistantThunder
He still does. Juante - if you're still around - didn't you say last night that out of 285 "critical" jobs at Treasury, they've still only filled 75 of them?

713 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:50:01pm

60 MINUTES TO PRESIDENT OBAMA: "ARE YOU PUNCH DRUNK?"

And that folks, is from TIME MAGAZINE.

714 rawmuse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:50:01pm

Sorry to be away. My house was full of women. Doing all that women stuff.

So, I put on "Full Metal Jacket".

Problem solved.

715 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:50:28pm

re: #709 Desert Dog

I've seen that movie, but I saw the actual crash of DHL a few months ago when they ceased domestic operations. That is a customer of mine and that's part of my current predicament.

No, FED EX plane crash in Tokyo today. Video is all over the news. Pilot and co-pilot died in a fireball on landing in gusty weather.

716 Desert Dog  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:50:47pm

re: #714 rawmuse

Sorry to be away. My house was full of women. Doing all that women stuff.

So, I put on "Full Metal Jacket".

Problem solved.

There ya go, pump that testosterone back up!

717 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:50:47pm

re: #711 Wishing

Thanks. I missed the beginning.

718 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:51:05pm

I'm fading so I'm going to sign off for the night. Pleasant dreams, folks.

719 Desert Dog  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:51:12pm

re: #715 DistantThunder

No, FED EX plane crash in Tokyo today. Video is all over the news. Pilot and co-pilot died in a fireball on landing in gusty weather.

wow, I did not see that. That's a drag.

720 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:51:18pm
721 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:51:24pm

re: #713 pink freud
TIME

722 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:52:45pm

re: #721 pink freud

TIME

Hmm that looks like they were writing about a Republican.

723 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:53:43pm

re: #712 realwest

He still does. Juante - if you're still around - didn't you say last night that out of 285 "critical" jobs at Treasury, they've still only filled 75 of them?

Hi realwest. The number I remember reading was something like only 75 of 360 'policy' jobs had been filled. Here's a related story, but it doesn't have the total:
[Link: www.cleveland.com...]

724 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:53:43pm

re: #699 Sharmuta
He is tired and realizes the situation is much different than he thought. I bet he has a greater respect for the Presidency than he ever did before. He is wearing the big boy pants now.

This tightrope is higher than I thought. Hey! Why are those guys taking down the net?
Hey!
Stop that!
So I am supposed to ride this bike out to that swing way out....ARE YOU NUTS?

725 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:54:19pm

re: #694 Killgore Trout
Killgore - "He's laughing at how ridiculously unpopular his decision to give money to the auto industry." I think that that was damned unpopular, but when he introduces his $1.3 or $1.5 TRILLION budget, which includes roughly $685 BILLION for a "down payment" on Nationalized Healthcare - or roughly HALF of his budget, I think the laughing will stop and he'll start dropping in the polls like a proverbial rock.

726 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:54:24pm

Obama is not funny. You have to be aggressive to be funny, and Obama can only be passive-aggressive like rubbing his middle finger on the side of his face when mentioning mcCain. Little jerk.

727 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:55:47pm

0bama just can't help himself. His latest gaffe:

Letter to Jaques Chirac:

US President Barack Obama has indirectly praised former French president Jacques Chirac's fierce opposition to the US-led invasion of Iraq, the online edition of the daily Le Figaro reported on Thursday.

In a letter described by Chirac as 'very nice,' Obama wrote, 'I am certain that we will be able to work together, in the coming four years, in a spirit of peace and friendship to build a safer world.'

The use of the word 'peace' was taken to be an indirect reference to Chirac's stance against the US intervention in Iraq, which Obama had also opposed as senator.

Apparently, Sarkozy was not too happy.

728 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:56:40pm

re: #705 Gus 802 Hey Gus, if you don't mind, what is it you do?

729 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:57:08pm

re: #727 pink freud

0bama just can't help himself. His latest gaffe:

Letter to Jaques Chirac:

Apparently, Sarkozy was not too happy.

Good.

730 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:57:12pm

re: #727 pink freud

0bama just can't help himself. His latest gaffe:

Letter to Jaques Chirac:

Apparently, Sarkozy was not too happy.

He must be smoking laced weed.

731 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:57:45pm

re: #727 pink freud

0bama just can't help himself. His latest gaffe:

Letter to Jaques Chirac:

Apparently, Sarkozy was not too happy.

Did he FORGET that Chirac is not the president?

732 Desert Dog  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:57:53pm

re: #727 pink freud

0bama just can't help himself. His latest gaffe:

Letter to Jaques Chirac:

Apparently, Sarkozy was not too happy.

Let's hope he doesn't extend the olive branch to Saddam Hussein next

733 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:58:15pm

This fits right in with the subject of the thread....

Killer Chemtrails: The Shocking Truth.

734 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:58:28pm

re: #728 realwest

Hey Gus, if you don't mind, what is it you do?

Oh, kind of like an architect but I'm not a licensed architect -- I don't call myself one professionally. Designer and drafting.

735 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:58:34pm

re: #731 Wishing

Did he FORGET that Chirac is not the president?

He may not have ever really known what was what in France? Wouldn't surprise me.

736 Desert Dog  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:58:47pm

re: #731 Wishing

Did he FORGET that Chirac is not the president?

It sure looks that way.....that is unbelievable. I thought Obama was a genius and surrounded himself with best and brightest?

737 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:59:39pm

re: #727 pink freud

0bama just can't help himself. His latest gaffe:

Letter to Jaques Chirac:

Apparently, Sarkozy was not too happy.

Inappropriate laughter, memory loss. Maybe our President really is smoking pot.

738 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:59:47pm

re: #736 Desert Dog

It sure looks that way.....that is unbelievable. I thought Obama was a genius and surrounded himself with best and brightest?

I think he's on drugs.

739 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:59:50pm

re: #708 DistantThunder
Watched Hannity last night for the few minutes he had Rudy on, and Rudy said "He [Obama] is totally out of his element here; hell even the Chinese Communists are saying that's not how to fix and run a capitalistic society - the Chinese Communists are giving ideas to Obama so they don't lose their shirts too!"

740 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 9:59:52pm

re: #736 Desert Dog

It sure looks that way.....that is unbelievable. I thought Obama was a genius and surrounded himself with best and brightest?

An international nightmare!

741 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:00:23pm

re: #738 DistantThunder

I think he's on drugs.

I predicted earlier that we would see obama have some kind of nervous breakdown.

742 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:00:28pm

re: #727 pink freud

I have a friend who voted for Obama specifically because he thought Barack would help repair the image of America abroad. It was becoming harder and harder for me to refrain from calling my friend and saying "I told you so." Now I don't have to. It goes without saying.

743 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:00:48pm

re: #733 jcm

This fits right in with the subject of the thread....

Killer Chemtrails: The Shocking Truth.

[Video]

So many crazies so few...

I better not finish that sentence.

744 rawmuse  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:01:21pm

re: #739 realwest

From all evidence, if you want to practice Capitalism, China is the only place that will let you do it, unfettered.

745 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:01:24pm

re: #739 realwest

Watched Hannity last night for the few minutes he had Rudy on, and Rudy said "He [Obama] is totally out of his element here; hell even the Chinese Communists are saying that's not how to fix and run a capitalistic society - the Chinese Communists are giving ideas to Obama so they don't lose their shirts too!"

We need a trustworthy spokes man for the Republican party - someone with lots of charisma. i think Rudy takes the right tone.

746 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:01:26pm

re: #713 pink freud
Huh? From Time magazine? I don't get it my friend.

747 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:01:36pm

Now surely he doesn't sit down and write out his letters to heads of state longhand, does he? So who helps him craft these missives? Does his staff think Chirac is the Pres?

748 Desert Dog  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:01:46pm

re: #738 DistantThunder

I think he's on drugs.

749 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:02:49pm

re: #737 HelloDare

Inappropriate laughter, memory loss. Maybe our President really is smoking pot.

Where are the people around him to stop this stuff? "Somebody stop me!"

750 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:03:18pm

It won't be too long before Pres. Bush starts looking good to even the democrats.

751 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:03:28pm

re: #747 Wishing

Now surely he doesn't sit down and write out his letters to heads of state longhand, does he? So who helps him craft these missives? Does his staff think Chirac is the Pres?

Yeah, what you said. Before me. You beat me! :-)

752 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:03:42pm

Is there a way to remove a president who is so impaired that he cannot function?
We might be better off with Biden.

753 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:03:58pm

re: #745 DistantThunder

We need a trustworthy spokes man for the Republican party - someone with lots of charisma. i think Rudy takes the right tone.

I hereby nominate Thaddeus McCotter

Tentatively.

754 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:04:55pm

re: #752 Kosh's Shadow

Is there a way to remove a president who is so impaired that he cannot function?
We might be better off with Biden.

Biden is brain damaged, literally.

755 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:05:21pm

re: #723 jaunte
Ah, thanks again my friend!

756 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:05:35pm

re: #754 DistantThunder

Biden is brain damaged, literally.

The plugs? The Botox? What did it? The drinking?

757 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:05:48pm

re: #754 DistantThunder

Biden is brain damaged, literally.

Next up.....
Pelosi.....

We're doomed.

758 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:06:06pm

I can't find any info on this letter to Chirac thing...I am doubting it is true. Might be time to call for 24 hour rule.

759 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:06:40pm

re: #756 Silvergirl

The plugs? The Botox? What did it? The drinking?

The stroke and the brain surgery.

760 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:06:54pm

re: #758 Wishing

I can't find any info on this letter to Chirac thing...I am doubting it is true. Might be time to call for 24 hour rule.

Yeah, no telling. It might have originated on Liveleak.

761 jaunte  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:07:01pm

Time to get ready for Monday. Here's some music to say good night.

762 DistantThunder  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:07:23pm

Night yalll;

763 jcm  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:07:39pm

re: #762 DistantThunder

Night yalll;

I'm out too night all!

764 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:08:11pm

re: #746 realwest

Huh? From Time magazine? I don't get it my friend.

I think the blush is coming off that rose, real.

765 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:08:21pm

me too!

weet dreams all!

766 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:08:30pm

re: #761 jaunte

re: #762 DistantThunder

re: #763 jcm

Later.

767 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:08:31pm

re: #723 jaunte
Hey Juante, from your link (dated March 8th y'all)

"The secretary of the Treasury (Timothy Geithner) is sitting there without a deputy, without any undersecretaries, without any, as far as I know, assistant secretaries responsible in substantive areas at a time of very severe crisis," White House economic adviser Paul Volcker said in a recent congressional hearing. "He shouldn't be sitting there alone."

Geithner's loneliness may have grown last week after Annette Nazareth, who was thought to be in line to become his deputy, abruptly withdrew her name from consideration, as did Geithner's choice for undersecretary of international affairs, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Sanjay Gupta, a physician and a CNN medical reporter who was widely thought to be on a path to serve as surgeon general within HHS, also backed out Thursday.

The White House last week defended its nomination process. It has named at least 71 people to Senate-confirmation-level jobs, more than double the appointments of George W. Bush and Bill Clinton in the first weeks of their first terms as president.

"We are continually looking for good people," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said. "We're continuing to get them through a very rigorous process to serve ... and we're doing it with all involved as quickly as we can."

But more than 400 subcabinet-level posts require Senate confirmation, not counting the scores of directors, board members, commissioners, ambassadors, military officials -- even U.S. attorneys -- who must be vetted by the White House and then by lawmakers.

Many of those jobs now are either empty or held by temporary replacements.


Just WOW.

768 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:09:22pm

Great, I turn my head, get distracted by work, and everyone decides to leave. Sleep well you lot. Rest assured that the night shift is here keepin watch.

769 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:09:51pm

Good-night all sleepy people. Thanks for the going away music.

770 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:11:19pm

I am angry when blogs pick up stories from one another and don't check the facts!

771 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:11:19pm

re: #768 BlueCanuck

Great, I turn my head, get distracted by work, and everyone decides to leave. Sleep well you lot. Rest assured that the night shift is here keepin watch.

Was it something we said?

772 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:11:31pm

re: #765 ggt

Bye.

773 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:11:43pm

re: #768 BlueCanuck

I ought to be good for another hour but when I fade, it's fast.

774 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:12:04pm

Another troll-less evo thread. They're becoming more frequent lately.
Reptilian selection on display...;~)

As far s Procol Harum goes, most folks' favorite song seems to be Whiter Shade of Pale, but I prefer the rockin' Conquistador:

775 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:12:12pm

re: #734 Gus 802
Geez, really tough field to be in right now and I'm afraid for the foreseable future. If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion: if you find yourself with a LOT of time on your hands, y'all might want to think about getting an architects license while continuing to work with the one client you have left.
Just a friendly suggestion!

776 Erik The Red  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:12:21pm

re: #768 BlueCanuck

Great, I turn my head, get distracted by work, and everyone decides to leave. Sleep well you lot. Rest assured that the night shift is here keepin watch.

Morning Blue. How are you today?
Energy Pack needed.

777 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:12:43pm

re: #760 Gus 802

Yeah, no telling. It might have originated on Liveleak.

Looks like gatewaypundit is where all leads back to.

778 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:13:27pm

re: #768 BlueCanuck

I'd stay, but I have a possible migraine developing so I don't know how much longer I can hold out. I'm having a migraine aura right now- it's hard to read.

779 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:13:41pm

re: #775 realwest

Geez, really tough field to be in right now and I'm afraid for the foreseable future. If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion: if you find yourself with a LOT of time on your hands, y'all might want to think about getting an architects license while continuing to work with the one client you have left.
Just a friendly suggestion!

I've thought about that. Would have to study a lot. I have one sure fire reference who is a licensed architect that I've worked for over the years. It's a long test.

780 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:14:11pm

Sorry Sharmuta! Hope you feel better soon.

781 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:14:27pm

re: #761 jaunte
Great song - one of my favorites, thanks Juante.

782 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:15:11pm

re: #777 pink freud

Looks like gatewaypundit is where all leads back to.

OK. Just a thought. Seems like Sarkozy is basically sucking up to Obama from what I've seen.

783 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:15:42pm

re: #780 Wishing

Thanks. I feel okay- I'm just having trouble reading because of this aura, and when it stops, the headache is likely to begin.

784 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:16:10pm

I am guessing that someone contrived this story, based on the bumblings of the POTUS.
We have enough to go on without making stuff up.

785 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:16:43pm

re: #783 Sharmuta

Thanks. I feel okay- I'm just having trouble reading because of this aura, and when it stops, the headache is likely to begin.

Go close your eyes, maybe you can head it off.

786 realwest  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:16:45pm

Well it's been grand as usual, gotta get some sleep here!
Hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night,all.

787 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:17:13pm

re: #733 jcm

I used to own the album that song came from. For the life of me I can't recall the name of the album or the name of the band.

/must be the chem-trails...

788 Wishing  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:17:29pm

re: #786 realwest

Well it's been grand as usual, gotta get some sleep here!
Hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night,all.

Gnite real.
Gnite all.

789 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:17:40pm

Get some rest Sharmuta, seriously

790 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:18:11pm

re: #776 Erik The Red

Energy pack on the way.

791 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:18:39pm

re: #777 pink freud

Looks like gatewaypundit is where all leads back to.

I looked and it's all based on this Monsters and Critics article.

792 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:19:03pm

re: #774 Salamantis

You have outstanding taste in music, among your other virtues.

793 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:19:04pm

re: #778 Sharmuta

I'd stay, but I have a possible migraine developing so I don't know how much longer I can hold out. I'm having a migraine aura right now- it's hard to read.

Some of my favorite soothing music

794 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:19:12pm

re: #778 Sharmuta

Get some rest then. I hope it's not too debilitating for you.

795 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:19:18pm

re: #774 Salamantis

"Embedding disabled by request." OK.

Procol Harum did a great version of that song with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra, the definitive version, if you ask me.

796 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:22:25pm

re: #786 realwest

Sweet dreams, realwest.

797 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:22:30pm

Mine is disabled too. It's by Raphael and it's Music to Disappear In. At YouTube it's under a Moment for Meditation.

798 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:22:36pm

Anyone read French?

This might be the original blip from Le Figaro.

Le président américain vient d'adresser une lettre «très sympathique » à Jacques Chirac, selon l'expression de ce dernier. «Je suis certain que nous pourrons au cours des quatre années à venir collaborer ensemble dans un esprit de paix et d'amitié afin de construire un monde plus sûr» , écrit le successeur de George W. Bush au prédécesseur de Nicolas Sarkozy. En évoquant le mot de « paix», Obama rend un hommage implicite à l'action de l'ancien président français qui s'était opposé à la guerre en Irak. Une intervention américaine contre laquelle le futur président américain s'était opposé comme sénateur, lors du vote au Congrès.

799 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:23:36pm

re: #794 BlueCanuck

I just learned now (thanks to the internet) that a person can have ocular migraines that can be nothing more than vision problems- no headaches. I've had these odd vision issues for most of my life and never knew I was having migraines! As I've aged, though, headaches have become a part of the process. I do feel a headache coming on, but the aura is subsiding. I will listen to you and Archie and get some rest.

800 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:23:39pm

And the cryptic Google translation:

The U.S. President has just sent a letter "very sympathetic" to Jacques Chirac, in the words of the latter. "I am confident that we can over the next four years working together in a spirit of peace and friendship to build a safer world," writes the successor to George W. Bush's predecessor Nicolas Sarkozy. In mentioning the word "peace," Obama makes implicit tribute to the action of the former French president who opposed the war in Iraq. A U.S. intervention against which the future U.S. president had opposed as a senator, in a vote in Congress.

801 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:25:55pm

re: #784 Wishing

I am guessing that someone contrived this story, based on the bumblings of the POTUS.
We have enough to go on without making stuff up.

Pat Dollard's got it now. Originally published in Le Figaro Thursday, 19 March.

802 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:26:50pm

re: #774 Salamantis

I found a better mix....

803 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:27:01pm

re: #801 pink freud

Pat Dollard's got it now. Originally published in Le Figaro Thursday, 19 March.

Just posted the Le Figaro blip above. :)

804 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:28:20pm

re: #783 Sharmuta

Thanks. I feel okay- I'm just having trouble reading because of this aura, and when it stops, the headache is likely to begin.

I feel for you. I never had migraines, but for 20 years I had something worse - cluster headaches. They were nicknamed suicide headaches, because fully a third of sufferers attempt suicide to escape from the pain.

Most migraine sufferers just wanna lie down in a dark quiet room and suffer through them, but cluster headaches won't let you do that. You find yourself blindly, rapidly pacing around, uncaringly careening off things, like you're trying to run away from the pain. You also tend to pound your own head, or beat it into objects, to distract yourself. I actually once asked my mother for an ice pick so I could dig the pain out of my head. It made perfect sense at the time.

Cluster headaches also tend to come in seasonal cycles; mine used to come in the spring and fall. They last about an hour, and are excruciatingly painful. The most depressing time is at the beginning of a cycle, because you know what's ahhead of you. You'll have one, then in a week have another, then in two or three days have another, then have another the very next day, then the next day have two, until at the cycle peak, you're getting hit with half a dozen of them a day.

A radical facial operation, involving breaking and resetting my badly set broken nose, correcting a deviated septum, and rolling my face up like a venetian blind and reaming out my sinuses, finally ended my torture and gave me relief. I had black eyes like a racoon, and plastic tubes up both nostrils for about six weeks, and it hurt like hell, but it was soooo worth it.

805 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:28:29pm

re: #774 Salamantis

I actually miss the science deniers/creationist troofers a little. Not their posts, but the loads of rebuttal posts from the knowledgeable Lizards here. I learned an awful lot of info from those contentious threads.

Thanks to those deniers, and those Lizards who skillfully rebutted them, I am a lot more informed on few subjects.

806 Syrah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:29:06pm

Garh!

Helping someone fix a problem with their computer over the phone is an exercise in frustration.

807 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:29:34pm

re: #804 Salamantis

Damn. Glad you are better now.

808 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:31:24pm

re: #749 Silvergirl

Where are the people around him to stop this stuff? "Somebody stop me!"

Exactly. It's really hard to believe. How many people saw this letter? Nobody said anything. And these are the people who think they can solve the financial mess we're in. Yikes.

809 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:32:11pm

re: #806 Syrah

Garh!

Helping someone fix a problem with their computer over the phone is an exercise in frustration.

amen to that..... lost contact with one friend because i couldn't solve his issues over the phone, and because i no longer lived just a few minutes down the road.

810 Dustyvet  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:32:26pm

re: #21 lawhawk

Is that one of the knights from Monty Python?

King Arthur: How does it... um... how does it work?
Sir Lancelot: I know not, my liege.
King Arthur: Consult the Book of Armaments.
Brother Maynard: Armaments, chapter two, verses nine through twenty-one.
Cleric: [reading] And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu...
Brother Maynard: Skip a bit, Brother...
Cleric: And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.
Brother Maynard: Amen.
All: Amen.
King Arthur: Right. One... two... five.
Galahad: Three, sir.
King Arthur: Three.

811 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:32:30pm

re: #801 pink freud

Pat Dollard's got it now. Originally published in Le Figaro Thursday, 19 March.

Stops there with Le Figaro on March 19th. Also searched using google.fr

812 Pietr  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:33:02pm

re: #806 Syrah

Garh!

Helping someone fix a problem with their computer over the phone is an exercise in frustration.

Most troubleshooting by phone is-especially when dealing with a novice. The internet is somewhat better, if you can get all the info needed, but that is also sometimes a problem.....:>((

813 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:33:21pm

OK, I won't swear to this, but I THINK:

The American president has sent Jacques Chirac what Chirac describes as a 'very sympathetic' letter. "I am certain that over the next four years we will be able to work together in a spirit of peace and friendship to build a safer world," writes the successor of George W. Bush to Nicolas Sarcozy's predecessor. In using the word 'peace', Obama makes an implicit tribute to the actions of the former French president, who opposed the war in Iraq.

I can't make grammatical heads or tails of the last sentence, but the point is that the 'American intervention' in Iraq was opposed by Obama in a vote in Congress.

814 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:34:14pm

re: #801 pink freud

Pat Dollard's got it now. Originally published in Le Figaro Thursday, 19 March.

Forgot to mention this but Pat Dollard did the best write up.

815 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:34:37pm

re: #798 Gus 802

Anyone read French?

This might be the original blip from Le Figaro.

Le président américain vient d'adresser une lettre «très sympathique » à Jacques Chirac, selon l'expression de ce dernier. «Je suis certain que nous pourrons au cours des quatre années à venir collaborer ensemble dans un esprit de paix et d'amitié afin de construire un monde plus sûr» , écrit le successeur de George W. Bush au prédécesseur de Nicolas Sarkozy. En évoquant le mot de « paix», Obama rend un hommage implicite à l'action de l'ancien président français qui s'était opposé à la guerre en Irak. Une intervention américaine contre laquelle le futur président américain s'était opposé comme sénateur, lors du vote au Congrès.

I'll try. High-school Fwench at work:
"The American President came to address a very friendly letter to Jacques Chirac, according to the latter. "I am certain that we can, in the course of the four years to come, collaborate together in a spirit of peace and friendship towards the goal of constructing a safer world," wrote George W. Bush's successor to the predecessor of Nicolas Sarkozy. By using the word "peace", Obama gave homage implicitly to the action of the former French president,who was opposed to the war in Iraq. An intervention to which the future American president was opposed to as a senator, according to his vote in Congress."

That's the gist of it.

816 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:36:42pm

re: #813 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #815 Alberta Oil Peon

Both agree with all of the translations more or less. Thanks.

817 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:39:14pm

re: #815 Alberta Oil Peon

i don't member any of the fwench i was supposed to learn in high school, but i can tell you my response to both Ear Leader and jackie C: go fuck yourselves.

call me bitter. call me clingy. call me an unreconstructed Zionist honco..... i gives less than a damn, regardless.

818 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:41:12pm

re: #817 redc1c4

i don't member any of the fwench i was supposed to learn in high school, but i can tell you my response to both Ear Leader and jackie C: go fuck yourselves.

call me bitter. call me clingy. call me an unreconstructed Zionist honco..... i gives less than a damn, regardless.

Heh! I don't really know if Chirac is actually party to this, or if Obama just sent him this note out of the blue. In which case, you sort of have to give him props for making it public.

819 Sharmuta  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:41:24pm

re: #804 Salamantis

Makes sense to me, too. When I get a migraine headache they are behind my left eye and it can get so bad sometimes that I want to gouge my eye out. So- before it gets to that point, I shall lie down and rest.

I hope all the Lizards have a good night.

820 traderjoe9  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:42:08pm

OT:

Kings was great tonight! Anyone watch?

821 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:42:20pm

re: #819 Sharmuta

Good luck.

822 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:42:21pm

re: #819 Sharmuta

Makes sense to me, too. When I get a migraine headache they are behind my left eye and it can get so bad sometimes that I want to gouge my eye out. So- before it gets to that point, I shall lie down and rest.

I hope all the Lizards have a good night.

Good night to you, too. May the headache be averted.

823 Pietr  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:42:33pm

When told the reason for Daylight Savings time, an Old Indian responded, "Only the govenment would believe you can cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom-and have a longer blanket"

824 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:44:11pm

re: #819 Sharmuta


Take care, Sharmuta. Hope you feel better soon.

825 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:45:02pm

re: #823 Pietr

When told the reason for Daylight Savings time, an Old Indian responded, "Only the govenment would believe you can cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom-and have a longer blanket"

But if the blanket is sewn to the bed in the middle, it's way of getting your head into the fresh air, and your feet warmed up, so that you make better use of the blanket.

826 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:45:48pm

Good night Sharmuta. Rest well.

827 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:47:08pm

re: #818 Alberta Oil Peon

Heh! I don't really know if Chirac is actually party to this, or if Obama just sent him this note out of the blue. In which case, you sort of have to give him props for making it public.

tru dat: Ear Leader is dumb enough to have done this on his own, and his "team" is amateur enough to have let him......

/we are *SO* screwed.

828 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:47:19pm

re: #825 Alberta Oil Peon

You need to get a job with those "snuggie" people. I think you just designed their new product.

829 Pietr  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:47:40pm

re: #819 Sharmuta

May your dreams be sweet, your head clear and refreshed, and your soul replenished and lightened........

830 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:48:33pm

Hey Pietr: I've got something to show you; hokay?

831 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:48:34pm

re: #820 traderjoe9

OT:

Kings was great tonight! Anyone watch?

television is referred to as a "medium" because it is neither "rare" nor "well done".

/why would i bother?

832 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:49:02pm

re: #825 Alberta Oil Peon

Hmmm, sounds like that short sheeting prank we used to do in the cadets and army.

833 AmeriDan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:49:12pm

re: #823 Pietr

If it's helpful for WAB's kids. I'm all for keeping it.

em>re: #826 BlueCanuck

Hey Blue and Pietr.

834 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:49:23pm

re: #828 Pvt Bin Jammin

You need to get a job with those "snuggie" people. I think you just designed their new product.

Coming to a late-night TV channel near you: "The Stumbly", the blanket with a foot.

835 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:49:36pm

Morning Ameridan. Staying out of trouble?

836 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:49:50pm

re: #831 redc1c4

Ssssh. I watched it. LOL No cable here in my computer room.

837 Pietr  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:50:08pm

re: #830 Salamantis

Hey Pietr: I've got something to show you; hokay?

Hokay, M'am-long as it's safe.....LOL.

838 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:50:46pm

re: #834 Alberta Oil Peon

Coming to a late-night TV channel near you: "The Stumbly", the blanket with a foot.

LOL

839 AmeriDan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:51:12pm

re: #835 BlueCanuck

Morning Ameridan. Staying out of trouble?

I wish.

840 gmsc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:51:20pm

re: #834 Alberta Oil Peon

Coming to a late-night TV channel near you: "The Stumbly", the blanket with a foot.

Get your Dr. Dent on!

841 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:51:25pm

re: #819 Sharmuta

Aw geez. Hope you feel better, Sharm. I've had maybe a handful of crippling headaches in my life, the kind that make you want to crawl into the deepest, darkest, most noise canceling hole you can find.

I feel for people who have to deal with migraines on a regular basis.

842 Pietr  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:51:48pm

re: #833 AmeriDan

Early Good AM to you, as well....

843 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:52:26pm

Aren't snugglies just backless burkas?

844 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:53:23pm

It'll take a few posts, but here goes:

Wicca and Science

Wicca's attitude toward science is one of intense interest and positive regard, for Wicca's perspective of pragmatic self-conscious evolution and its anti-dogmatic character resemble scientific ideals. Science, for Wicca, is attempting to reveal the underlying nature of immanent divinity, and as such is performing a sacred service. In addition, Lovelock's Gaia Hypothesis, that the entire biosphere is an evolving, self-regulating totality, appears to be to Wiccans the beginning of the confirmation of their ecological suspicions, and the recent comparisons of gender, brain structure and cognitive style bolster the validity of their chosen deity attributes. They for the most part accept that humanity creates divinity in its own image, and feel flattered that science is indicating that they in particular are doing it rather well.

The Twin Springs of Magick: Divination and Spellcasting

But how can one reconcile Paganism's science-friendly stance with their practice of something so seemingly unscientific as magickal working? Because nonfundamentalist NeoPagans, who comprise the vast majority of NeoPagans generally, do not see their practice of magick as something supernatural and mystical so much as something naturalistic and empirical.

Magick is conceived of in Wicca as the science which is not yet widely understood, but which is not supernatural, but very much natural, and it falls firmly under the umbrella of cause and effect. Magick falls into two categories, divination and spellcasting, having to do with knowing and doing, respectively.

I. Divination

Long ago, before the vocation was polyfurcated into medical doctor and psychologist and social worker, when the tribe had a problem, they would bring it to their shaman. (S)he would listen to the concerned and involved parties explain what comprised the problem, then would enter into a trance state by one or more of many means (mantra (chanting), mandala (single-point concentration), mudra (rhythmic dancing), tantra (sexual stimulation), soma (psychedelics), fasting, etc.). While in trance the shaman would ask the question the answer to which would solve the tribal problem. When (s)he returned from his/her journeyings, (s)he would pronounce a remedial course of action, not just for the afflicted one(s) to follow, but for the whole tribe to jointly pursue. This still happens today among preliterate aboriginal tribes, and more and more among e-literate and postmodern NeoPagans. But what is really happening here? To get an insight, we turn to past artifacts and the testimony of contemporary shamans. The cave paintings in Lascaux France, the !Kung tribal paintings in Africa, the rock carvings of the Australian aboriginal Dreamtime People, Tibetan mandalas, Zuni sand paintings, all separated by thousands of miles and years, contain a common thread. There are depictions of their native ecologies and societies (the !Kung paintings include trees with horizontal leaf patterns, elephants and giraffes, the Lascaux cave frescoes include mastodons and bison, etc.), but they all include certain common geometric patterns. The Grid. The Zig-Zag. The River S. The Concentric Circles. Why, separated by thousands of miles and years, should these common patterns continually manifest themselves?

845 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:54:26pm

Psychology calls them endoptic forms. They are hard-wired into the human visual apparatus, and are thought to relate to the shadows which capillaries cast upon the retina. If you close your eyes and press on the outside corners of your eyes, you can invoke them. But the question remains, what do these have to do with shamanic divination? When we sleep, truths that we wakingly deny or overlook come to us in the imagistic language of dreams. There is a gating mechanism of the hippocampus of the midbrain which paralyzes our will so that we will not will to move in our dreams and hurt or reveal ourselves (sleepwalking phenomena prove that this mechanism is not flawless). This mechanism may be overridden by sonic or somatic driving in a particular frequency, (dancing, chanting or rhythmic dancing) or by entering a state of altered awareness (fasting, mandalic concentration and psychedelics). In such a condition, an experienced shaman may willfully direct waking dreams, and properly interpret the imagery confronted, much as an experienced lucid dreamer is able to do with actual dreams.

When first entering the trance and looking inward, they would first see the cognitively archetypical endoptic patterns; deeper in they would access and experience the ecosocial imagery in which they would seek their answers. This is the first appearance of the use of the brain as one would a computer, maximizing access to all that one actually has learned and (if only subliminally) knows through the long span of one's life, rather than merely what one might remember. The modern shamanic uses of indole alkaloids (LSD, mescaline, psilocybin and all the rest) are, when they are used for exploration rather than mere entertainment, instances of the same phenomenon.

II. Spellcasting

Spellcasting can be done repetitively by individuals or singly by a group. A coven gathers and agrees upon a common and specific goal to be achieved; then they start "raising energy", as you call it (it is really a process of activating emotions) theough a combination of dancing (usually circular or spiral and repetitive, and most commonly around a common bonfire), chanting (what is desired to happen), and drumming (to co-ordinate and focus the group). When the collective emotion is at its peak, the priest(ess), by shouting "So Mote It Be!" or some other symbolic trigger phrase, signals the members of the coven to simultaneously launch their collective wills toward the realization of the common desire. Whether or not something "really" soars through the apex of the "Cone of [emotional] Power" and physically effects things in the world is beside the point; everyone in the coven has just engaged in a mutually supporting act of mass imprinting. When they return to their (generally shared) social milieu, their actions are adumbrated in both overt and subliminal ways toward the realization of the group purpose. All these little differences sooner or later usher in the "butterfly effect" (as in chaos theory) where due to SDIC (Sensitive Dependence upon Initial Conditions), these little differences snowball into an social avalanche, carrying the goal to completion, and "magick happens." When this imprinting is a solitary and self-programmed practice, it just takes more persistence and repetition.

846 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:54:47pm

re: #841 Slumbering Behemoth

Aw geez. Hope you feel better, Sharm. I've had maybe a handful of crippling headaches in my life, the kind that make you want to crawl into the deepest, darkest, most noise canceling hole you can find.

I feel for people who have to deal with migraines on a regular basis.

When I get a headache, or wake up with a bad head after too much fun, I stumble out to the garage, crack open the oxygen valve on my welding outfit, and huff straight O2 out of the torch handle. About a minute of doing that, and I feel vastly better.

847 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:55:11pm

re: #843 HelloDare

Aren't snugglies just backless burkas?

Yes. Headless too.

848 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:55:38pm

Addendum: Notice that divination is usually practiced by a single person, whereas spellcasting is practiced by both singles and groups. This is because a group can choose to have their wills voluntarily channeled for a single purpose, but cannot be instructed in advance to arrive at identical answers to a question; if the answer were known in advance in order to permit such instruction, there would be no need for the divinatory working. A multiplicity of differing answers to a question would only serve to confuse, not to guide subsequent actions based upon answers received.

A Note on the Relation between Eclectic Wicca and Chaos Magick

Whereas both Eclectic Wicca and Chaos Magick cheerfully steal anything that they find will work for them from any arena they encounter, Eclectic Wicca imports what it appropriates into the Wiccan nosmology and paradigm. Chaos Magick, on the other hand, adopts a metaposition of scepticism of all magickal claims, yet its practitioners master a multiplicity of magickal systems. When they have chosen a magickal task they wish to perform or a magickal goal they desire to realize, they choose from among these systems the one that seems to be most conducive to and simpatico with their chosen task or goal; they then suspend their metaposition of disbelief for the duration of the magickal working, and reassume their metaposition at their working's conclusion. They thus employ belief as another magicak tool in their toolbox, to be used when warranted, then put aside when they are done with it. However, as happens with all magickal systems, Chaos Magick is beginning to assemble its own collection of doctrinal accretions, among them servitors (individual thought-forms), egregores (group thought-forms), and sigils (a method to subconsciously imprint goals and purposes).

End

849 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:55:58pm

re: #828 Pvt Bin Jammin

You need to get a job with those "snuggie" people. I think you just designed their new product.

Found on an ancient buckskin
Only these words remain;

New veg-ah mah-tic

(text missing or unreadable)

three wives do work of five

no one knows what it means

850 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:56:30pm

re: #828 Pvt Bin Jammin

Don't be so quick to follow that suggestion, AOP. The snuggie people have a rival gang, and I hear they are cutthroat.
/

851 Syrah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:57:16pm

re: #846 Alberta Oil Peon

When I get a headache, or wake up with a bad head after too much fun, I stumble out to the garage, crack open the oxygen valve on my welding outfit, and huff straight O2 out of the torch handle. About a minute of doing that, and I feel vastly better.


That can get very exciting depending on how much of that O2 you are huffing.

852 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:57:59pm

re: #846 Alberta Oil Peon

When I get a headache, or wake up with a bad head after too much fun, I stumble out to the garage, crack open the oxygen valve on my welding outfit, and huff straight O2 out of the torch handle. About a minute of doing that, and I feel vastly better.

which is all fine and well, unless you are having GI issues.......

/and i don't mean "OD".

853 traderjoe9  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:58:02pm

re: #831 redc1c4

television is referred to as a "medium" because it is neither "rare" nor "well done".

/why would i bother?

Typical response from a bums fan.

854 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:59:13pm

re: #851 Syrah

That can get very exciting depending on how much of that O2 you are huffing.

but only for a little while: after that, you won't care at all......

855 AmeriDan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:59:19pm

re: #850 Slumbering Behemoth

Don't be so quick to follow that suggestion, AOP. The snuggie people have a rival gang, and I hear they are cutthroat.
/

O.M.G.

856 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 10:59:22pm

re: #851 Syrah

That can get very exciting depending on how much of that O2 you are huffing.

No more than about a minute. It's my understanding that straight O2 at normal atmospheric pressure is safe enough. Biggest downside is that it's dry.

857 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:00:27pm

re: #850 Slumbering Behemoth

LOL Looks like they have more color choices. It's unreal. I am getting snuggie e-mails now.

858 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:01:12pm

re: #857 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL Looks like they have more color choices. It's unreal. I am getting snuggie e-mails now.

Couldn't you just skin out a Teletubby and wear the whole hide?

859 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:02:09pm

re: #853 traderjoe9

Typical response from a bums fan.

you need to Talk to Doug.

/tell him i said "high"!

860 Syrah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:02:36pm

re: #854 redc1c4

but only for a little while: after that, you won't care at all......

Yep. Going "Major Tom" can have permanent results.

861 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:02:57pm

re: #849 swamprat

When my folks passed away we found some kinda vegamatic thing, still in the box. We tried it, the blades were dulled after about three uses.

862 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:03:58pm

re: #858 Alberta Oil Peon

Couldn't you just skin out a Teletubby and wear the whole hide?

ROTFLMAO

863 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:04:16pm

re: #861 Pvt Bin Jammin

When my folks passed away we found some kinda vegamatic thing, still in the box. We tried it, the blades were dulled after about three uses.

I remember that "vegamatic" was a nickname for a Chevy Vega with automatic transmission.

864 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:04:24pm

Wearable blankets. Why not wearable sleeping bags?

865 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:04:55pm

re: #861 Pvt Bin Jammin


My mother had some really neat items.

866 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:05:47pm

re: #846 Alberta Oil Peon

I've had plenty of headaches and hangovers in my time, and though they truly suck they are mostly negligible. The "horrible handfuls" I'm talking about are the "wish I could block out the Sun and kill and destroy every living/non-living thing on the planet that makes a noise above a whisper or gives off light" kind of headaches.

I am most grateful that those were rare, rather than chronic.

867 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:06:05pm

re: #864 Silvergirl

LOL I'll bet those things get pretty rank, fast.

868 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:06:05pm

Well, Pietr? You mentioned a short while back that you had 'seen magickal things work.' Do you consider those to be reasonable naturalistic explanations?

869 Pietr  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:06:28pm

re: #845 Salamantis

re: #848 Salamantis

Not to different from my personal belief on theory and practice. Many peeps are to hung up on ritual and tools; real works come from Will and Ability. Both of those can be built up over the years, but one must learn to "protect' ones' self at all times.....even good works can have backlashes.

870 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:07:53pm

re: #864 Silvergirl

Wearable blankets. Why not wearable sleeping bags?

Looks like an ill-fitting, poorly-made snowmobile suit.

A good snowmobile suit is comfortable, and will keep you warm in sub-zero cold. Blocks wind and a lot of wet, too.

871 Pietr  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:08:17pm

re: #868 Salamantis

Your post went just before my reply.

872 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:08:34pm

re: #869 Pietr

re: #848 Salamantis

Not to different from my personal belief on theory and practice. Many peeps are to hung up on ritual and tools; real works come from Will and Ability. Both of those can be built up over the years, but one must learn to "protect' ones' self at all times.....even good works can have backlashes.

Yeah; beginners need props with which to focus their attentions upon their goals and desires, but experienced workers can dispense with them.

873 AmeriDan  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:09:05pm
"Are you crying? There's no crying in baseball basketball!"

Ok, maybe sometimes.

874 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:09:25pm

re: #866 Slumbering Behemoth

Two things;

Take b-complex.
Make sure you aren't allergic to something/ A common allergy is wheat

Regularly occurring symptoms that happen within 90 minutes of eating...is often an allergy

875 Syrah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:10:31pm
876 Silvergirl  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:11:38pm

re: #867 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL I'll bet those things get pretty rank, fast.

I agree.

My head is drooping. If I had one of those snowmobile types suits, I just might pass out in it.

Good-night lizards!

877 gmsc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:11:53pm

OT: Fashion fembot to strut Japanese catwalk

Japanese researchers have showed off a robot that will soon strut its stuff down a Tokyo catwalk.

The girlie-faced humanoid with slightly oversized eyes, a tiny nose and a shoulder length hair boasts 42 motion motors programmed to mimic the movements of flesh-and-blood fashion models.

"Hello everybody, I am cybernetic human HRP-4C," the futuristic fashionista said, opening its media premiere at the National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology outside Tokyo.

The fashion-bot is 158 centimetres tall, the average height of Japanese women aged 19 to 29, but weighs in at a waif-like 43 kilograms, including batteries.

I, for one, welcome our new Japanese Schoolgirl Overlords.

878 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:12:08pm

re: #864 Silvergirl

Wearable blankets. Why not wearable sleeping bags?

That's what Gumby wears when he watches TV.

879 swamprat  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:12:27pm

re: #869 Pietr

Stubbornness ("will") can replace knowledge, ability, intelligence...just about anything.


I must sleep now.

880 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:12:36pm

re: #874 swamprat

Two things;

Take b-complex.
Make sure you aren't allergic to something/ A common allergy is wheat

Regularly occurring symptoms that happen within 90 minutes of eating...is often an allergy

i have regularly occurring symptoms, but fortunately, they respond to treatment.

881 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:12:45pm

re: #876 Silvergirl

G'nite. Have a great day tomorrow.

882 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:15:31pm

re: #874 swamprat

I appreciate the concern, but I have not had one of those brain-smashing pounders in over ten years. The kind that make you just about vomit at the slightest sound or hint of light. I think the few that I have had were stress related.

883 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:17:54pm

re: #875 Syrah

Thanks for posting that. Haven't heard it in years.

884 Pietr  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:18:19pm

re: #879 swamprat

Stubbornness ("will") can replace knowledge, ability, intelligence...just about anything.


I must sleep now.

But if only stubbornness is the entire controlling force, disaster awaits. The intelligence is required for control, knowledge and 'ability' keeps one from totally expending themselves in the effort. G'nights. swamprat.....

885 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:20:20pm

Pietr, it's nice to meet yet another fellow cognoscenti here. There are more of us here than you might imagine.

886 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:21:35pm

re: #880 redc1c4

Are you going to the San Diego meet?

887 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:22:08pm

Magick is mental technology that is not widely understood.

888 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:23:20pm

re: #886 Pvt Bin Jammin

Are you going to the San Diego meet?

definite maybe..... more maybe than definite, at this point. and you?

889 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:25:57pm

re: #877 gmsc

Only. In. Japan.

890 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:27:34pm

It is a means of harnessing one's will, both explicit and subliminal, in the service of the achievement of one's goals and desires.

891 freetoken  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:29:59pm

re: #889 Slumbering Behemoth

It's a nation obsessed with breasts... hmmm, perhaps I ought to turn the LNDT into a boob thread?

892 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:30:10pm

But yes, one must remain on guard against the depredations of the "monsters of the id." ;~)

893 Syrah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:36:46pm

re: #892 Salamantis

But yes, one must remain on guard against the depredations of the "monsters of the id." ;~)

Thank God we are not gods, least we turn the Earth into The Forbidden Planet.

894 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:36:53pm

re: #891 freetoken

It's a nation obsessed with breasts... hmmm, perhaps I ought to turn the LNDT into a boob thread?

tit's ok with me.....

895 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:37:26pm

The greater self is comprised of the mundane, everyday self (ego), the higher self (superego), and the deeper self (id). And sometimes the deeper, instinctual self desires things that quite rightly horrify the higher, rational and moral self. Which is why caution and care must be exercized when engaging in spellcasting (imprinting) or divination (accessing).

896 Salamantis  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:45:01pm

Well, that's enough of that. I think I'm gonna exercize the Fourth Power of the Mage now (the traditional powers of the mage are to know, to will, to dare, and to keep silent). It is said that those who know do not say, and those who say do not know. But sometimes, those who know nevertheless say. Perhaps sometimes this is wise to do, and perhaps not.

897 Syrah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:54:12pm

If you could write a "how to" on nuclear weapons design that even a three year old could understand and follow, should you do it?

Some knowledge is so dangerous, it is best left to the realm of the divine. Mankind has too long and consistent of a history of making even the most benign thing a tool of malevolence. Let them keep their innocence as long as they can.

898 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:02:31am

re: #885 Salamantis

re: #896 Salamantis

Rats-lost this post; I'll try again....

I'd not be surprised on the #'s, M'am-LGF is too much mental magnet for such not to be. As to your other post, I seldom share my beliefs in person, let alone on line-so normally the '4th power' is my rule. Some mysteries should remain mysteries.....

899 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:04:59am

re: #894 redc1c4

tit's ok with me.....

Mammary fails me......guess I should seek the nipple of knowledge....

900 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:10:21am

re: #897 Syrah

If you could write a "how to" on nuclear weapons design that even a three year old could understand and follow, should you do it?

Some knowledge is so dangerous, it is best left to the realm of the divine. Mankind has too long and consistent of a history of making even the most benign thing a tool of malevolence. Let them keep their innocence as long as they can.

The three Magickal Powers are Power Over (dictating to obesiant others), Power With (influence freely given from others due to their reverence and respect), and Power From Within (a personal strength born of honestry, decency and integrity). Power Over is evil, Power From Within is (usually but not always) good, and Power With can be either. Power From Within also naturally lead to Power With, but one must be on guard that one does not allow it to transgress into Power Over. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and other malevolently sought to morph their perverse versions of Power From Within into Power Over by means of Power With, and great evil was done. Thoreau, Gandhi, and Martin Luther King employed their Power From Within more wisely and benevolently.

901 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:11:23am

BTW, Pietr: I'm a Sir, not a Ma'am...;~)

902 Syrah  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:18:11am

!

903 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:19:58am

re: #901 Salamantis

Apologies, I sort of lumped you and Sharmuta in the Female category. We really hadn't discussed much since I joined, passing like ships in the night.....:>))

904 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:29:27am

Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot made their deeper, instinctual id selves their muses, while Thoreau, Gandhi, and Martin Luther King chose their highter, moral and compassionate selves as their muses. And therein was all the difference.

905 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:47:51am

Magick is merely a tool, like a gun is. Magickal principles and processes are morally neutral; it is only the practitioner's motivating intent that is benevolent or malevolent.

906 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:14:17am
907 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:34:40am

re: #906 Iron Fist

One thing was left out. Chirac was making out like a bandit getting under-the-table bribes from Saddam Hussein through the "Oil for Food" program. Chirac (and France) had very, very strong economic reasons not to want to remove Hussein from power. Bluntly, they weren't making some grand stand for "human rights" or the Iraqi people or even some nebulous "peace" that is more than simply an abscence of open war.

In the end, Chiarac was concerned about lining his pockets.With cash made from the blood and misery of a prostrate Iraq under one of the most brutal dictatorships of the 20th Century.

Yeah, they were only too willing to trade Iraqi blood for Fwench oil. In fact, Saddam drained the Tigris-Euphates Delta and devastated the ancient Marsh Arab culture in order to provide drier ground from which the French national/corporate oil giant TotalElFina could drill.

908 hurricane567  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:15:14am

The American Bison, probably not too dissimilar from its ancient ancestors, is about 6'6" at the head, about 10' long, and weighs close to 1500 lbs. A Tyrannosaurus rex, however, is 40' long, 13' at the hips, and weighs about 7 tons. Which one did cave men draw on the walls of the caves, again? The shaggy one that went "moo"? Not the 2 story tall eating machine? I WONDER WHY THAT IS, HMMMMM.....

909 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:15:41am

WTF? This is a "serious" museum? Thank you for the early morning laugh with my coffee Charles. Those poor deluded fools.

910 Str8 Jackets Only  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:20:41am

I claim bullsh*t on this. This is just one person's view on creationism, and it's been taken like "Oh, ALL creationists feel this way". Quit giving Liberals fuel to slam Conservatives. This sideshow is from a very small minoritie's view.

911 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:33:17am

re: #910 Str8 Jackets Only

Actually- a good sized segment of the American population rejects evolution, so it's not a minority. And if you'd like the liberals to not have this fuel with which to slam conservatives, then perhaps exposing their influence within the GOP is the best way to marginalize them.

912 Str8 Jackets Only  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:55:01am

re: #911 Sharmuta

A good number reject evolution, that is 100% correct.
But I'm willing to bet most of them do not reject it this way. I mean, come on.
Your comment is almost like saying "Biscuits are baked in an oven, so therefore, everything that's baked in an oven is a biscuit."

913 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:58:29am

re: #912 Str8 Jackets Only

If you think this article is a lone case, than you haven't been paying attention.

915 Str8 Jackets Only  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:19:23am

re: #913 Sharmuta

I still contend MOST creationist do not feel the way this "museum" depicts creation.

916 Emerald  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:29:21am

re: #439 Sharmuta

Emerald (love the nic, BTW):

Here's that crazy ass creationist site where dinosaurs are everywhere in art.

Hee, I was trying to think of a screen name when I noticed an ad from a jewelry store on my desk. :) Sites like that almost make you wonder if the people really believe what they spout, or if they're doing parody. It's just hard to believe people go to the stretches they do to avoid facing reality.

We know that the ancients collected fossils. But they didn't think they were from living dinosaurs, they considered them as bones of their monsters. And those monsters bore no reality to dinosaurs.

Here's what is considered as the possible start of the cyclops legend:

To paleontologists today, the large hole in the center of the skull suggests a pronounced trunk. To the ancient Greeks, Deinotherium skulls could well be the foundation for their tales of the fearsome one-eyed Cyclops.
917 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:32:34am

re: #915 Str8 Jackets Only

Are you confusing "creationists" with people who accept both God and evolution? Because that's not a creationist. Creationists reject evolution and science.

918 cronus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:46:13am

From this morning's WSJ:

Texas School Board Set to Vote on Challenge to Evolution

Dr. McLeroy believes that God created the earth less than 10,000 years ago. If the new curriculum passes, he says he will insist that high-school biology textbooks point out specific aspects of the fossil record that, in his view, undermine the theory that all life on Earth is descended from primitive scraps of genetic material that first emerged in the primordial muck about 3.9 billion years ago...

...Neither side is confident of victory. All members of the board have come under enormous pressure in recent months, especially three Republicans who support teaching evolution without references to "weaknesses." The state Republican Party passed a resolution urging the three to back Dr. McLeroy's preferred curriculum. A conservative activist group put out a news release suggesting all three were in the pocket of "militant Darwinists."

919 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:04:32am
920 DaChew  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:34:33am

Creationism is a problem that Obama inherited from the previous administration. We should set up a trillion dollar Creation stimulus package to make it go away.

921 Colonel Panik  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:14:36am

re: #744 rawmuse

From all evidence, if you want to practice Capitalism, China is the only place that will let you do it, unfettered.

As long as you give the CCP or PLA their "cut".

922 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:22:26am

Sorry Charles, I didn't realize what that blog was when I linked to it.

923 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:34:53am

re: #915 Str8 Jackets Only

This person tried to register no less than three sock puppets, and is now blocked.

924 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:36:56am

No ... make that seven sock puppets.

925 Colonel Panik  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 9:48:54am

While I certainly don't believe as the YECer's do, that early man shared the earth with dinosaurs, I do wonder about the origin of dragon stories. They certainly seem to be widespread...there are Anglo-Celtic dragon stories, like St. George, Slavic dragon stories like Smok Wewelski, the dragon of Krakow that I posted about upthread, Norse dragon stories, Asian dragon stories...I wonder if anyone as traced their origins and what the likely critter was that inspired them. Crocodiles? Big snakes? Monitor lizards?

I also find it somewhat amusing that the Slavic word for dragon, Smok or Smocza, is similar to the English word smoke. Where there's Smok, there's fire! LOL.

926 notutopia  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 9:56:27am

I'll never be able to look at a banana the same way ever again.

927 KansasMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 10:20:26am

As usual, I'm quite late to the thread, but I wanted to give Ringo kudos. Well-done photo essay, Ringo!

928 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:18:02pm

re: #925 Colonel Panik

While I certainly don't believe as the YECer's do, that early man shared the earth with dinosaurs, I do wonder about the origin of dragon stories. They certainly seem to be widespread...there are Anglo-Celtic dragon stories, like St. George, Slavic dragon stories like Smok Wewelski, the dragon of Krakow that I posted about upthread, Norse dragon stories, Asian dragon stories...I wonder if anyone as traced their origins and what the likely critter was that inspired them. Crocodiles? Big snakes? Monitor lizards?

I also find it somewhat amusing that the Slavic word for dragon, Smok or Smocza, is similar to the English word smoke. Where there's Smok, there's fire! LOL.

They were most probably inspired by ancient people in different places finding dino fossils.

929 AndyMacOP  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:17:42pm

Possible dead thread, but I have to say that I showed this photo in Theology class today and told the kids (11th grade) that anyone who believes in crap like this is just plain stupid. This is not the faith!

I might get a call or two as I know of at least one parent who thinks that the devil planted the fossils there to confuse humans.

As Charles would say : Oh brother!


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