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We have seen the best of our time: machinations, hollowness, treachery, and all ruinous disorders, follow us disquietly to our graves.

William Shakespeare, King Lear

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1 gmsc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:22:39pm

New thread! No leering!

Too late.

2 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:22:53pm

*gulp*

3 gmsc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:24:54pm

Is quoting from Othello racist?

4 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:25:44pm

re: #1 gmsc

How about sneering? I can do sneering.

5 Syrah  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:25:56pm

re: #3 gmsc

Is quoting from Othello racist?

That depends moor or less on who hears you quote it.

6 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:26:29pm

re: #2 Noam Sayin'

It scared me too. How ya doin, Noam?

7 wiffersnapper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:27:06pm

So I had a nightmare last night: I dreamed Charles had banned my account out of some mad fit of power hungry mod rage. No joke.

Crazy!

8 wiffersnapper  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:28:17pm

Would the PC Police call this play Othecko?

9 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:29:09pm

I believe the 0bama meltdown countdown is now justified.

Time Magazine ...?

Yes, indeedy, I believe we are living in some interesting times.

gmsc: How do I trademark 'meltdown countdown'? (apply the symbol, I mean...)

10 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:29:13pm

re: #7 wiffersnapper

So I had a nightmare last night: I dreamed Charles had banned my account out of some mad fit of power hungry mod rage. No joke.

Crazy!

That's funny. My dreams are just about that bad. They make no sense at all but they're always scary or just plain strange..

11 gmsc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:29:26pm

re: #4 BlueCanuck

How about sneering? I can do sneering.

A sneer that curls your lip is ok.

Defiance gleaming from your eyes would be a nice touch, as well.

12 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:30:53pm

re: #2 Noam Sayin'

Is that new-fangled big screen hd all-the-bells-and-whistles tv of yours forcing you to stay up this late, Noam?

13 Cognito  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:30:54pm

re: #9 pink freud

I believe the 0bama meltdown countdown is now justified.

Time Magazine ...?

Yes, indeedy, I believe we are living in some interesting times.

gmsc: How do I trademark 'meltdown countdown'? (apply the symbol, I mean...)

Mountdown™.

14 gmsc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:30:56pm

re: #9 pink freud

I believe the 0bama meltdown countdown is now justified.

Time Magazine ...?

Yes, indeedy, I believe we are living in some interesting times.

gmsc: How do I trademark 'meltdown countdown'? (apply the symbol, I mean...)

type the following line, but remove all the spaces:
& # 1 6 9 ;

It should look like this: ©

15 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:31:47pm

Attention West coast lizards. Go outside and look up....
Space Station Tracker

Should be passing over in about 10 minutes.

16 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:32:01pm

re: #13 Cognito

Mountdown™.

That's pretty good, cog. :-)

17 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:33:14pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Thanks. I hope it's not still cloudy but I kinda have a feeling that it is.

18 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:33:37pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

This iss tracker shows the visibility area (red circle)

19 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:33:39pm

Wonder what the Obama Gaffe of the Day will be tomorrow?

20 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:33:39pm

Meltdown Countdown©

21 gmsc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:33:48pm

re: #9 pink freud

I believe the 0bama meltdown countdown is now justified.

Time Magazine ...?

Yes, indeedy, I believe we are living in some interesting times.

gmsc: How do I trademark 'meltdown countdown'? (apply the symbol, I mean...)

Oh, besides the number set:
& # 1 6 9;
©

This works, too:
& c o p y ;
©

For trademark:
& t r a d e ;

or
& # 1 5 3 ;

will work

(Again, remove all spaces from the examples)

22 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:34:04pm

re: #20 pink freud

ha!

Thanks gmsc!

23 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:34:08pm

re: #17 Pvt Bin Jammin

We're a little cloudy here. I might be able to see it.

24 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:35:22pm

re: #7 wiffersnapper

So I had a nightmare last night: I dreamed Charles had banned my account out of some mad fit of power hungry mod rage. No joke.

Crazy!

Yeah that is crazy. Maybe you need to take a break from the blog. ;)

/so says a fellow LGF addict. :p

25 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:35:23pm

re: #21 gmsc

Cool, thanks!

26 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:36:01pm

Woot, it's not cloudy at Ojoe's favorite site, right above my house. Wouldn't it be fun if we could see it on this?

[Link: www.astro.ucla.edu...]

27 BlueCanuck  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:36:15pm

re: #11 gmsc

Defiance, I can do defiance. Now where did those pictures of me sneering defiantly go....

28 gmsc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:36:36pm

re: #22 pink freud

ha!

Thanks gmsc!

You're welcome.

There are several more unusual characters you never see on this board, but could.

Come to think of it, here's something else you don't often see on this board:

:pɹɐoq sıɥʇ uo ǝǝs uǝʇɟo ʇ,uop noʎ ǝslǝ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos s,ǝɹǝɥ 'ʇı ɟo ʞuıɥʇ oʇ ǝɯoɔ

29 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:37:07pm

What about the O-wreck&trade?

To distinguish it from an innocent maker of vacuum cleaners.

30 oc livin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:37:10pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

Will be looking, thanks killgore

31 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:39:05pm

re: #28 gmsc

Thanks! I was wondering how I saw you do the upside down message in the mirror from bin Laden earlier. :-)

32 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:40:14pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

I hope you get to see it. Put up Ojoe's site, otherwise, it refreshes all the time. Can't believe it is that clear.

33 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:40:20pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Which way should I looK?

34 gmsc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:40:45pm

re: #31 pink freud

Thanks! I was wondering how I saw you do the upside down message in the mirror from bin Laden earlier. :-)

I love doing little things like that, just to make people say, "WTF?!?"
;)

35 freetoken  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:41:07pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

I like how they show the sun on the equator. I totally forgot that today was the first day of Spring.

36 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:41:45pm

re: #20 pink freud

Meltdown Countdown©

America Held Hostage In Disbelief

37 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:43:02pm
38 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:43:18pm

˙ssı ǝɥʇ ǝǝs ʇ,uɐɔ ı os ǝɹǝɥ ʎpnolɔ s,ʇı

39 astronmr20  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:43:45pm

re: #38 Gus 802

˙ssı ǝɥʇ ǝǝs ʇ,uɐɔ ı os ǝɹǝɥ ʎpnolɔ s,ʇı

woah!

40 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:43:59pm

Dang, I can't find my binoculars and I dare not wake my hubby. Looking for my glasses now.

41 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:44:17pm

re: #39 astronmr20

woah!

See #28. :)

42 gmsc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:44:52pm

re: #41 Gus 802

See #28. :)

Oh, sure. Blame me.

43 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:45:12pm

re: #37 ploome hineni

anyone see 60 minutes tonight?

I need a report:D

ɟlǝsɯıɥ ɟo ssɐ ɹǝʇʇn puɐ ǝʇǝldɯoɔ ɐ ǝpɐɯ ɐɯɐqo

44 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:45:13pm

˙pǝddılɟ s,ɐɯɐqo

45 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:45:24pm

re: #42 gmsc

Oh, sure. Blame me.

¡ʇlnɐɟ ɹnoʎ llɐ s,ʇı

/Doh!

46 freetoken  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:45:38pm

re: #28 gmsc

For those on a Mac, you can use the Character Palette to enter all Σ㋔яつ of goodies....

47 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:46:39pm

re: #43 pink freud

ɟlǝsɯıɥ ɟo ssɐ ɹǝʇʇn puɐ ǝʇǝldɯoɔ ɐ ǝpɐɯ ɐɯɐqo

He sure did. But the MSM and his flock will say: "Yes, but he was so wonderful in how he made an ass out of himself!"

48 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:46:47pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Is it blinky? I think I saw something blinky to the east.

49 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:47:10pm

re: #46 freetoken

For those on a Mac, you can use the Character Palette to enter all Σ㋔яつ of goodies....

Huh? Where is this Character Palette thing.

50 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:47:19pm

re: #48 Slumbering Behemoth

Is it blinky? I think I saw something blinky to the east.

It's now over the Gulf of Mexico.

51 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:48:14pm

re: #50 Gus 802

It's now over the Gulf of Mexico.

If it heads northeasterly, it could be over the Goof of D.C.

52 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:49:37pm

re: #47 Gus 802

He sure did. But the MSM and his flock will say: "Yes, but he was so wonderful in how he made an ass out of himself!"

I don't think so, Gus. I think as soon as they start smelling blood in the water, as soon as one (or more) cuts and runs (see the front page of huffpo, time mag, usa today) the stampede will begin. Heck, the op writers were brutal today, especially in the NYT and WaPo.

53 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:49:44pm

re: #51 Alberta Oil Peon

If it heads northeasterly, it could be over the Goof of D.C.

The Laughing President

54 gmsc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:49:44pm

re: #49 HelloDare

Huh? Where is this Character Palette thing.

In any application that will let you use it, you can find it in the Edit Menu as "Special Characters".

55 freetoken  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:50:40pm

re: #49 HelloDare

Huh? Where is this Character Palette thing.

It can be brought up a number of ways... depending upon what program you are using. Usually under a "text" menu. In Safari, try "special characters" under the Edit menu.

56 [deleted]  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:51:06pm
57 TheMatrix31  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:51:15pm

re: #52 pink freud

I don't think so, Gus. I think as soon as they start smelling blood in the water, as soon as one (or more) cuts and runs (see the front page of huffpo, time mag, usa today) the stampede will begin. Heck, the op writers were brutal today, especially in the NYT and WaPo.

I don't get it though. Were these guys fooled at first or something? Did they seriously not know he was like this, or did they hear it and think it was BS, or did they know and covered it up in hopes that he wouldn't actually be like this and now are turning on him to save their own asses?

Hm.

58 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:51:25pm

re: #51 Alberta Oil Peon

LOL
It's not going to happen , live , for me, the clouds are still up there. I'm checking out the UCLA thing I posted earlier.

59 Edouard  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:51:31pm

The weight of this sad time we must obey.
Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say.
The oldest hath borne most; we that are young
Shall never see so much, nor live so long.
--King Lear

GN Lizards

60 blackpajamas  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:51:47pm

Real entrepreneurs are bulletproof.

Tom Paine's Entrepreneur’s Credo

I do not choose to be a common man,
It is my right to be uncommon … if I can,
I seek opportunity … not security.
I do not wish to be a kept citizen.
Humbled and dulled by having the
State look after me.
I want to take the calculated risk;
To dream and to build.
To fail and to succeed.
I refuse to barter incentive for a dole;
I prefer the challenges of life
To the guaranteed existence;
The thrill of fulfillment
To the stale calm of Utopia.
I will not trade freedom for beneficence
Nor my dignity for a handout
I will never cower before any master
Nor bend to any threat.
It is my heritage to stand erect.
Proud and unafraid;
To think and act for myself,
To enjoy the benefit of my creations
And to face the world boldly and say:
This, with God’s help, I have done
All this is what it means
To be an Entrepreneur.

61 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:51:59pm

re: #52 pink freud

I don't think so, Gus. I think as soon as they start smelling blood in the water, as soon as one (or more) cuts and runs (see the front page of huffpo, time mag, usa today) the stampede will begin. Heck, the op writers were brutal today, especially in the NYT and WaPo.

OK, we'll see. I'm a cynic so I need some positive thinking. Yeah, I saw the front page of the Huff Po today which pointed to a Politico article. Several editorials pointing out their criticism of Zero. Of course many were from left wing viewpoints but actually, that works too in the long run.

62 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:52:49pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Attention West coast lizards. Go outside and look up....
Space Station Tracker

Should be passing over in about 10 minutes.

no joy... just jets flying along Mulholland Ridge until they hang a left into Bob Hope International..... windy as shit, and no rats: they have more sense than i do, evidently.

63 TheMatrix31  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:53:15pm

What I wanna know is....how the hell are Dow futures up 126 at the moment?

64 gmsc  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:53:43pm

re: #60 blackpajamas

Real entrepreneurs are bulletproof.

If
Rudyard Kipling

65 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:54:17pm

re: #56 ploome hineni

Obama has dentures?

66 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:54:29pm

re: #43 pink freud

ɟlǝsɯıɥ ɟo ssɐ ɹǝʇʇn puɐ ǝʇǝldɯoɔ ɐ ǝpɐɯ ɐɯɐqo

no surprise there... nor will it be a surprise when it isn't reported as such.

/refill anyone?

67 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:55:00pm

re: #63 TheMatrix31

What I wanna know is....how the hell are Dow futures up 126 at the moment?

they can afford better drugs than you or i.....

68 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:56:33pm

re: #63 TheMatrix31

What I wanna know is....how the hell are Dow futures up 126 at the moment?

I don't know. Possibly because more "free" money is on its way.

69 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:57:04pm

re: #67 redc1c4

Got your refill right here. LOL

Is it cloudy over there? Definately cloudy ghere,

70 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:57:25pm

re: #66 redc1c4

Top story, red. Admittedly, most are right wing blogs, but Time is in there as is USA Today. It's got legs. Politico leads the pack.

71 HelloDare  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:57:40pm

re: #55 freetoken

Thanks. I've been looking for a tiny black happy face. ☻

72 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:57:48pm

re: #60 blackpajamas

Give me, my God, what you still have;
give me what no one asks for.
I do not ask for wealth, nor success,
nor even health.

People ask you so often, God, for all that,
that you cannot have any left.
Give me, my God, what you still have.
Give me what people refuse to accept from you.
I want insecurity and disquietude;
I want turmoil and brawl.

And if you should give them to me,
my God, once and for all,
let me be sure to have them always,
for I will not always
have the courage to ask for them.


Corporal Zirnheld
Special Air Service
1942

73 pink freud  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:58:24pm

re: #57 TheMatrix31

I don't get it though. Were these guys fooled at first or something? Did they seriously not know he was like this, or did they hear it and think it was BS, or did they know and covered it up in hopes that he wouldn't actually be like this and now are turning on him to save their own asses?

Hm.

Cog? Maybe you can give a better answer than me.

74 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:58:37pm

re: #69 Pvt Bin Jammin

Got your refill right here. LOL

Is it cloudy over there? Definately cloudy ghere,

windy and clear... even the big wind chimes are gonging.

75 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:58:42pm

Well....no more USA in the World Baseball Classic. It's the all-Asia matchup of Japan/S. Korea tomorrow.

76 Gus  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:58:51pm

re: #70 pink freud

Top story, red. Admittedly, most are right wing blogs, but Time is in there as is USA Today. It's got legs. Politico leads the pack.

Let's see:

Punch Drunk
Ignoramus
Special Olympics

That's been Obama during the previous week.

77 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Mar 22, 2009 11:59:01pm

re: #69 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG PIMF on that.
HERE

I'd better leave, lizards. I've had a couple of martoonis. LOL

78 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:00:01am

Today in History, March 23rd:

79 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:00:06am

re: #63 TheMatrix31

What I wanna know is....how the hell are Dow futures up 126 at the moment?

Actually Bloomberg has this:

Asian Stocks, U.S. Futures Rise on Policy Optimism; Uny Surges

March 23 (Bloomberg) -- Asian stocks and U.S. futures rose on optimism governments will succeed in efforts to revive lending, easing the worst slump since the Great Depression. Treasuries fell for a third day.

80 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:00:28am

re: #77 Pvt Bin Jammin

G'nite PBJ.

81 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:00:53am

re: #77 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG PIMF on that.
HERE

I'd better leave, lizards. I've had a couple of martoonis. LOL

Hasta Martooni

82 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:01:15am

Night PBJ, weet dreams.

83 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:01:47am

re: #74 redc1c4

We had that a couple of hours ago. Now we are socked in again.

84 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:02:03am

re: #77 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG PIMF on that.
HERE

I'd better leave, lizards. I've had a couple of martoonis. LOL

Sleep well, PBJ!

85 HelloDare  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:02:16am

re: #70 pink freud

Top story, red. Admittedly, most are right wing blogs, but Time is in there as is USA Today. It's got legs. Politico leads the pack.

Five top stories on that page:

Kroft to Obama: Are you punch-drunk?
Venezuela's Chavez calls Obama “ignoramus”
Obama Upsets Sarkozy With Letter to Jacques Chirac
Gregg: ‘This country will go bankrupt’
Friendly fire: NYT hits Obama

86 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:02:27am

re: #56 ploome hineni

it's already on youtube


what should I watch.....I will not watch it all

the sound of his fucking whistling dentures makes me sick

it's the appallingly brain dead ignorance and innate cluelessness that gets me going.... i've got a Persian cat with more common sense than he has.

87 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:02:56am

re: #75 Fenway_Nation

Well....no more USA in the World Baseball Classic. It's the all-Asia matchup of Japan/S. Korea tomorrow.

i predict the ROK's for the win.....

/payback

88 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:03:03am

re: #82 BlueCanuck

Night PBJ, weet dreams.

Nite, Blue. Have a great day tomorrow.

I am out for real.

89 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:03:05am

ǝɯ dlǝɥre: #57 TheMatrix31

I don't get it though. Were these guys fooled at first or something? Did they seriously not know he was like this, or did they hear it and think it was BS, or did they know and covered it up in hopes that he wouldn't actually be like this and now are turning on him to save their own asses?

Hm.

Oh, the Fifth Column of the Fourth Estate knew exactly what they were doing when they got on the Dear Leader Express, leftists that they (mostly) are...the problem for them now is that they are losing the ability to cover for the ever-increasing fuckups that Dear Leader is making, so they'll soon do to him what he did to so many people during the campaign:

They'll throw Dear Leader under the bus....

90 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:04:15am

re: #89 talon_262

Disregard the "ǝɯ dlǝɥ"...was testing the flipped letters.

;-P

91 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:05:28am

re: #88 Pvt Bin Jammin

Nite, Blue. Have a great day tomorrow.

I am out for real.

west?

/white smoke

92 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:06:22am
93 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:06:52am

re: #92 ploome hineni

I can't watch him.

94 HelloDare  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:07:02am

Remember when Obama was just throwing people under the bus instead of countries. There's a list over at Ace of Spade.

1. Canada: NAFTA fiasco.
2. Poland: missile shield "misunderstanding".
3. UK: Churchhill bust return.
4. Russia: "overcharge" button.
5. UK: insulting gifts to the Browns.
6. France: not realizing that Chirac has been out of power for two years.
7. Brazil: Misspelling the president's name.
8. Mexico: NAFTA
9. India: Thinking Kashmir is Pah-kee-stan.

95 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:07:27am

re: #79 Gus 802

This is the beginning of a short term rally. However, by the end of this year or next year, it's going to take a dump to end all dumps.

Watch.

96 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:07:44am

re: #92 ploome hineni

did anyone see 60 minutes?

anyone have any thing to say about it?

I didn't, but I am waiting to here if Otrauma actually said, "The budget IS the economy."

/Wealth is the disease. Otrauma is the cure.

97 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:08:14am

re: #95 astronmr20

This is the beginning of a short term rally. However, by the end of this year or next year, it's going to take a dump to end all dumps.

Watch.

98 HelloDare  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:08:37am

re: #92 ploome hineni

did anyone see 60 minutes?

anyone have any thing to say about it?

I was expecting maniacal laughter so I was a little underwhelmed. It did not seem like an inappropriate question. Not at all. It was basically a puff piece.

99 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:08:47am

re: #63 TheMatrix31

What I wanna know is....how the hell are Dow futures up 126 at the moment?

/My Plan for Bad Bank Assets

100 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:08:53am

re: #95 astronmr20

This is the beginning of a short term rally. However, by the end of this year or next year, it's going to take a dump to end all dumps.

Watch.

Yeah. Also it's probably some optimism based on the talks this week for toxic assets. Once Geithner opens his feeble mouth again it will go down by the end of the week.

101 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:09:05am

re: #92 ploome hineni

did anyone see 60 minutes?

anyone have any thing to say about it?

"CBS: Our Name Says It All."

haven't watched it willingly since the 70's.

102 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:09:07am
103 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:09:38am

re: #93 pink freud

I can't watch him.

Yup, that's sort of how I am able to deal with all of this. Can't really watch him live, because I end of yelling at the TV to counter his lies, which accomplishes nothing but raising my blood pressure.

The best method for sanity with any B.O. event is to catch an LGF thread while he is live.. as I will be doing on Tuesday. Might have the TOTUS open in a second window perhaps in a CnN feed if I can stomach it, but usually I just follow him through lgf comments.

104 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:10:57am

re: #93 pink freud

I can't watch him.

After all of these months I've barely listened to him. He has nothing to say. It's pure political pablum spoken in generalizations and cliches.

105 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:11:17am

re: #103 astronmr20

What's happening Tuesday?

106 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:12:57am

re: #105 pink freud

What's happening Tuesday?

dunno... but i'm guessing the market will tank Wednesday.

107 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:13:04am

re: #105 pink freud

What's happening Tuesday?

Some incredible bullshit, that's what.

108 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:13:57am
109 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:14:19am

Is this the 'toxic asset' plan?

110 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:14:38am

hey Pink F, i got a reply from my learned colleague in my law class, if you're interested....

111 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:15:03am

NASA halts test of Space station Urine Recycler.

Astronauts breathe sigh of relief.

112 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:15:15am

Treasury's toxic asset plan could cost $1 trillion
By MARTIN CRUTSINGER – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration's latest attempt to tackle the banking crisis and get loans flowing to families and businesses will create a new government entity, the Public-Private Investment Program, to help purchase as much as $1 trillion in toxic assets on banks' books.

The new effort, to be unveiled Monday, will be followed the next day with release of the administration's broad framework for overhauling the financial system to ensure that the current crisis — the worst in seven decades — is not repeated.

113 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:15:35am

re: #107 astronmr20

Some incredible bullshit, that's what.

Yes, but is this specific special incredible bullshit, or just more of the daily incredible bullshit?

114 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:15:45am

Another 1 trillion down the hole. They're claiming the might get private investors.

115 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:15:50am
116 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:15:52am

re: #104 Gus 802

After all of these months I've barely listened to him. He has nothing to say. It's pure political pablum spoken in generalizations and cliches.

He's still campaigning,trying to get re-elected now. The cost to the AF for flying Him, Biden, and Pelosi on all these campaign stops has to be busting the Pentagon budget. And why did you all leave me alone on the last thread, with no explanation? My feelers are hurt now....it made me feel like Avanti.....

117 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:16:15am
118 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:16:28am

re: #113 pink freud

Yes, but is this specific special incredible bullshit, or just more of the daily incredible bullshit?

This incredible bullshit.

Another teleprompter press conference.

119 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:16:29am

re: #110 redc1c4

heading over to your blog ...is it there?

of course I'm interested!

120 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:16:45am

re: #75 Fenway_Nation

Well....no more USA in the World Baseball Classic. It's the all-Asia matchup of Japan/S. Korea tomorrow.

I was at the game tonight.

121 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:17:19am

re: #116 Pietr

He's still campaigning,trying to get re-elected now. The cost to the AF for flying Him, Biden, and Pelosi on all these campaign stops has to be busting the Pentagon budget. And why did you all leave me alone on the last thread, with no explanation? My feelers are hurt now....it made me feel like Avanti.....

Yeah, the permanent campaign. Vote for me, my name is Barry. I wonder how much all of this is costing in logistics alone.

122 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:17:23am

Whether you're at home
Or at a movie with Pee Wee Herman

123 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:17:37am

re: #109 Fenway_Nation

Is this the 'toxic asset' plan?

dunno, but the toxic asset plan is doomed: why would i take a chance on investing in shit, where, if i figure out a way to make it profitable, because i'm smarter than congress (no great stretch, but still) they can create a public uproar and suddenly retroactively tax my earnings for saving their ass.

no way in hell i'd be involved, unless i had a angle they didn't have covered.

124 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:17:53am

re: #120 TheMatrix31

Started off so well, didn't it?

Japan just went with the death of 1000 cuts, as is they're style.

125 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:17:59am
126 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:18:05am

re: #115 ploome hineni

Sorry to hear that ploome. I hope you feel better soon.

127 blackpajamas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:18:20am

For Ron Silver, a man with courage enough to detach from Left Wing lunacy and go Independent (and to try to cheer up the Powerline chaps).

Stand, Sons of Achilles!

Against Pork without pause, do not Ham-let thy hopes downplay!

"I feel utterly powerless to do anything about the fellow in the Oval Office who combines infantile leftism and adolescent grandiosity in roughly equal measures."

If thou has nature in thee, bear it not, Let not the fertile forge of Capitalism be a spigot for sloth and financial incest. But howsomever thou measure thy foe,[1]

"It seems to me that every day he is responsible for assaults on the freedom and well being of the American people. I can't keep up and I can't stand to pay attention."

Taint not thy mind nor let thy soul contrive against free clear will. Set a-fire those heathens, And to those thorns that in thy wallet lodge to grope and sting her. Stoke thy forge at once!

"His aim seems to be to reduce us to government dependents. His inattention to rehabilitation of the financial system in lieu of vastly expanding the size and scope of the government is a dead giveaway, as is his lack of concern over the vast destruction of wealth his policies are working (and will continue to work)."

The glow-worm show, exposure to be near, and gins to pale his uneffectual stimulant. Take heart, hold, and hail: Remember me!

"We simply are thirsty for the unapologetic doer, who never says he’s sorry for himself or his country or his ancestors, but instead thinks and plans how he can build something better and leave it for others–the age old agrarian commandment “make sure you leave a better farm than you inherit.”

"We all seem to stare at the rare genius under a semi, working on the transmission, or someone on a catwalk riveting a girder, or a teacher who can wade into an unruly class and say “damn it, we are going to learn calculus one way or another”.

Anon to confont them:

Striking tax breaks too short and weak; his antique sword, Rebellious to his arms, lies where it falls, repugnant to command.

Unequal match'd, Human Capital at Socialist drives; in rage strikes wide; But with the divine wind of the free market sword the unnerved Keynsian falls.

Senseless Main Stream Medium, seeming to feel the blow, with flaming lip, stoops to his base, and with hideous embrace inflates the market's ear:

For, lo! the market's sword, swiftly descending on the dreamy god-head Of reverend despotism, seemed in the stale media air to stick:

So, as a maligned tyrant, Capitalism stood, And like a neutral to his will and matter, did nothing.

But, as we often see, against some storm, a silence in the heavens, the rack stand still, the bold winds speechless and the orb below

At hush Tea time, anon the dreadful thunder doth rend the region, so, after Capital's pause, aroused vengeance sets him new a-work;

And never did the Cyclops' hammers fall on Mars's armor forged for proof eterne, With less remorse than Capital's reforged blade shall prey on the Social base!

Out, out, thou strumpet Commune! All free men, in general quarter take away her power;

Break all the spokes and bolts from her wheel, and bowl the round knaves down the Hill of ear-marked heaven, as low as to the fiends!"

[1]

128 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:18:41am

re: #125 ploome hineni

the AVG scan is now 4 hours and 30 minutes long

still scanning

1 Macintosh computer.

5 years.

No scans of any sort.

129 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:18:50am
130 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:19:20am

re: #109 Fenway_Nation

Is this the 'toxic asset' plan?

/the one and only

131 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:19:21am

re: #124 Fenway_Nation

Started off so well, didn't it?

Japan just went with the death of 1000 cuts, as is they're style.

Started off GREAT. Davey Johnson f'n sucks.

132 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:19:43am

re: #130 Killian Bundy

/the one and only

They are saying this one will top 1 trillion.

When will it end ? ? ?

133 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:20:12am

re: #119 pink freud

heading over to your blog ...is it there?

of course I'm interested!

nope..... here ya go (names edited to protect teh st00pid:

You would think a military guy (from what I understand, you guys have self-discipline) would be able to rein yourself within the parameters of an intellectual debate-which is what you indicated you wanted to engage. You displayed you could not and I called you on it. Your argument didn't need the name-calling. You were doing quite well until you regressed. Now, you can play the victim: "Oh, Student 2's trying to restrain my free speech". Or you can recognize that you crossed a line. Frankly, I think playing the victim is more self-satisfying for you. Barack Obama is beloved by many people in this country for all the potential possibilities he represents for the future. You are right in that there is a cult-like adoration for him. And we (the many who are hopeful of those possibilities) may all be disappointed in the eventual outcome. I know you were using a spoonerism to equate President Obama with Kim Jun Ill as many of his ideas are socialistic--it's not clever, it's not even remotely funny. Directly above, I think your words are patronizing to Student 1 and I really don't think you respect your fellow students, myself included. I also don't think you're genuinely interested in learning (as you indicated above) in an exchange of ideas about issues facing our country. You seem more interested in a verbal King-of-the-Hill where you obliterate all voices of dissent until only yours remain. Well, I'm done..you can be king of your lonely hill. All Hail King red.

134 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:20:12am

re: #128 astronmr20

1 Macintosh computer.

5 years.

No scans of any sort.

I was passive with my scans and AV protection for about 7 years. Then one day, it happened. Nothing too serious but it essentially shut down my computer. Took me almost 24 hours of work and I got Kaspersky running all the time now.

135 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:21:07am

re: #132 astronmr20

They are saying this one will top 1 trillion.

When will it end ? ? ?

In 1399.5 days.

136 Tamron  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:21:29am

TWENTY-FIVE PEOPLE AT THE HEART OF THE MELTDOWN

The Guardian - January 26, 2009
The worst economic turmoil since the Great Depression is not a natural phenomenon but a man-made disaster in which we all played a part. In the second part of a week-long series looking behind the slump, Guardian City editor Julia Finch picks out the individuals who have led us into the current crisis.


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137 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:22:42am

re: #132 astronmr20

They are saying this one will top 1 trillion.

When will it end ? ? ?

when we run out of printing presses?

138 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:22:59am

re: #135 gmsc

In 1399.5 days.

It's too bad we don't have any political party worth shit in the united states to get enough votes to take back the legislative or executive branches in order to stop this.

The Republicans squandered their power. We are all paying for it dearly.

139 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:24:09am

re: #137 redc1c4

when we run out of printing presses?

/Zimbabwe actually ran out of paper when the couldn't pay the supplier

140 freetoken  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:24:10am

re: #112 Gus 802

Well... I guess we all thought this was coming. Since they ruled out "nationalizing" the banks, the strategy shifted to buying the bad debt, at a value that would make the banks' books look positive again.

The question will become, what does the Gov't do with the bad debt... Plans go awry, and I'm afraid that the actual assets involved with the bad debt sit there and rot.

141 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:24:23am

re: #136 Tamron

From the article:

Clinton might have started the sub-prime ball rolling, but the Bush administration certainly did little to put the brakes on the vast amount of mortgage cash being lent to ‘Ninja’ (No income, no job applicants) borrowers who could not afford them. Neither did he rein back Wall Street with regulation (although the government did pass the Sarbanes-Oxley Act in the wake of the Enron scandal).

Simply not true. The Bush administration warned 17 separate times that this would happen and tried it's best to enact legislation to stop it.

142 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:25:18am

re: #133 redc1c4

Yeah, military guys have a lot of self discipline. Other wise there would be some large body counts going around. For some reason we have a high intolerance to stupidity.

143 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:25:22am

re: #139 Killian Bundy

/Zimbabwe actually ran out of paper when the couldn't pay the supplier

just go to Staples.......

%-)

144 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:25:59am

re: #140 freetoken

Well... I guess we all thought this was coming. Since they ruled out "nationalizing" the banks, the strategy shifted to buying the bad debt, at a value that would make the banks' books look positive again.

The question will become, what does the Gov't do with the bad debt... Plans go awry, and I'm afraid that the actual assets involved with the bad debt sit there and rot.

Yep, another 1 trillion which is why Treasuries are down. Frankly, if this passes it will become another clown act for congress and Treasury not unlike TARP 1, Stimulus 2, AIG, etc.

145 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:26:04am

re: #143 redc1c4

just go to Staples.......

%-)

0bama is Mugabe's easy button...

146 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:26:43am

re: #133 redc1c4

Hahahahahahaha!

You spoonerized Kim Jun Ill?

Well. He certainly told you, you name-callin', victim-playin', line crossin', patronizing, dissin', heel grindin', King of the Hill, you!

What fun! LOL. You must really enjoy yourself. ;-)

And, you must keep us updated!

147 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:26:59am

re: #142 BlueCanuck

Yeah, military guys have a lot of self discipline. Other wise there would be some large body counts going around. For some reason we have a high intolerance to stupidity.

%-)

148 freetoken  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:27:18am

BTW, I checked out the TFN blog... and they have a nice post up on another Texas SBOE member: What Does Terri Leo Really Want to Teach? At least she knows what radio shows to visit... to help her with her constituency.

149 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:29:27am

re: #148 freetoken

BTW, I checked out the TFN blog... and they have a nice post up on another Texas SBOE member: What Does Terri Leo Really Want to Teach? At least she knows what radio shows to visit... to help her with her constituency.

That just made me roll my eyes. Unbelievable.

150 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:29:39am

Update:

Murtha petition is at 25,677.

151 freetoken  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:32:12am

From the toxic assets link:

Expansion of a recently launched Fed program that provides loans for investors to buy securities backed by consumer debt as a way to increase the availability of auto loans, student loans and credit card debt. Under Geithner's plan for the toxic assets, that $1 trillion program would be expanded to support purchases of toxic assets.

Just what we need.... a way to enable more Americans to buy HDTV's they can't afford, to watch videos of Paris Hilton....

152 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:32:28am

The Rise of the Underground

Economists have long thought the underground economy -- the vast, unregulated market encompassing everything from street vendors to unlicensed cab drivers -- was bad news for the world economy. Now it's taking on a new role as one of the last safe havens in a darkening financial climate, forcing analysts to rethink their views.

At the Manek Chowk market, in this Indian city's congested center, vendors peddle everything from beans to brass pots from a row of derelict stalls as monkeys scramble overhead. One man sharpens nails using a spinning blade attached to a moving bicycle wheel.

Surajben Babubhai Patni, 58 years old, sells tomatoes, corn and nuts from under a makeshift cloth tarp at one of Ahmedabad's most central street markets.
Their wages are pitiful by Western standards. But there are no layoffs at the Manek market. All anyone has to do to work there is show up and start hawking -- something more and more people are doing these days.

Without this job, "we'd have nothing," says Surajben Babubhai Patni, a 58-year-old vendor selling tomatoes, corn and nuts from under a makeshift cloth tarp. She makes as much as 250 rupees a day, or about $5, but it's enough to feed her household of nine, including her son, who recently lost his job as a diamond polisher.

Hat tip: Instapundit

153 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:34:13am

re: #146 pink freud

Hahahahahahaha!

You spoonerized Kim Jun Ill?

Well. He certainly told you, you name-callin', victim-playin', line crossin', patronizing, dissin', heel grindin', King of the Hill, you!

What fun! LOL. You must really enjoy yourself. ;-)

And, you must keep us updated!

well, if you insist..... i've printed out the enitre chat log, and am currently reviewing it to document just how many lines i wrote, how many cites, quotes, etc, i made, compared to genius. i also plan to invoke the Socratic method, etc, in my next opus. then i will go back and deal with the prof who posts things like:
"We should look at the second amendment a little closer and see if we can actually see what the founding fathers really meant. I do not think they envisioned our society today. Surely, they didn't mean that 300 million people should be armed. Armed mean dangerous! "

154 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:34:47am

Survivor, Texas-Style

Network TV is reported to be developing a Texas version of "Survivor," the popular TV show.

Contestants must travel from Amarillo through Fort Worth, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and back to Amarillo, through San Marcos and Lubbock. Each will be driving a Volvo with a bumper sticker that reads: "I voted for Kerry, I'm gay, and I'm here to take your guns."

The first contestant to complete the round trip is the winner.

155 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:35:08am

Begin by standing on a comfortable surface, where you have plenty of room at each side.

With a 5-lb potato bag in each hand, extend your arms straight out from your sides and hold them there as long as you can. Try to reach a full minute, and then relax.
Each day you'll find that you can hold this position for just a bit
longer.
After a couple of weeks, move up to 10-lb potato bags.

Then try 50-lb potato bags and then eventually try to get to where you can lift a 100-lb potato bag in each hand and hold your arms straight for more than a full minute. (I'm at this level.)

After you feel confident at that level, put a potato in each bag.

156 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:35:20am

Obama implies rejection of bonus tax

Obama wagered significant political capital Sunday, signaling opposition to a highly popular congressional drive to slap a punitive 90 percent tax on bonuses to big earners at financial institutions already deeply in debt to taxpayers.

Obama defended his stand by saying the tax, passed quickly in the House of Representatives last week, would be unconstitutional and that he would not "govern out of anger."

Another reason for the futures being positive.

/Obama puts on the adult diapers to stop the punative tax nonsense

157 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:36:21am

re: #150 pink freud

Update:

Murtha petition is at 25,677.

Is this going to make any difference?

158 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:37:17am

re: #151 freetoken

From the toxic assets link:

Just what we need.... a way to enable more Americans to buy HDTV's they can't afford, to watch videos of Paris Hilton....

So Treasury (us) help to balance or lessen the financial institutions toxic debts. In return, these financial institutions free up "new" lines of credit. However, Treasury debt increases obviously in order to pay for this. In the end we get stuck with the bill.

159 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:37:37am

"France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks it is a fine country. France has usually been governed by prostitutes." —Mark Twain

"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." —General George S. Patton

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion." —Norman Schwartzkopf

"We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." —Marge Simpson

"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure." —Jacques Chirac, President of France

"As far as France is concerned, you're right." —Rush Limbaugh

"The only time France wants us to go to war is when the German Army is sitting in Paris sipping coffee." —Regis Philbin

"The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better, on average, than the citizens of Baltimore. True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee, but why this is more stylish than sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know." —P.J O'Rourke (1989)

"You know, the French remind me a little bit of an aging actress of the 1940s who was still trying to dine out on her looks but doesn't have the face for it." —John McCain, U.S. Senator from Arizona

"They've taken their own precautions against Al Qaeda. To prepare for an attack, each Frenchman is urged to keep duct tape, a white flag, and a three-day supply of mistresses in the house." —Argus Hamilton

"The only way the French are going in is if we tell them we found truffles in Iraq." —Dennis Miller

"I would call the French scumbags, but that, of course, would be a disservice to bags filled with scum. I say we invade Iraq, then invade Chirac." —Dennis Miller

"You know why the French don't want to bomb Saddam Hussein? Because he hates America, he loves mistresses and wears a beret. He IS French, people." —Conan O'Brien

"I don't know why people are surprised that France won't help us get Saddam out of Iraq. After all, France wouldn't help us get the Germans out of France!" —Jay Leno

"The last time the French asked for 'more proof,' it came marching into Paris under a German flag." —David Letterman

How many Frenchmen does it take to change a light bulb?
One. He holds the bulb and all of Europe revolves around him.

An old saying: Raise your right hand if you like the French.... Raise both hands if you are French.

Next time there's a war in Europe, the loser has to keep France.

160 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:38:09am

60 Minutes Kroft To Joking Obama "Are You Punch Drunk?"

Don't know if this has been posted yet?

The Presidency of The USA is not a joke.

161 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:38:15am

re: #153 redc1c4

I don't know that invoking Socrates will do a lot of good, but I wish you luck on that. As for that prof ...perhaps the founding fathers did not imagine a society such as that which exists today, but I dare say they did envision a government such as the one in existence today ...and that that is the very reason the second was put in there.

162 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:38:35am

re: #156 Killian Bundy

Obama implies rejection of bonus tax

Another reason for the futures being positive.

/Obama puts on the adult diapers to stop the punative tax nonsense

Fuck.

I might actually have more respect for him if he stayed consistent or followed his principles. Does he have any?

All this breeds is more uncertainty.

If we knew precisely HOW MUCH we were fucked, the markets would stabilize. Being that we have no clue what this asshat will do next, shit continues to be erratic.

That's it in a nutshell.

163 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:39:45am

re: #156 Killian Bundy

Obama implies rejection of bonus tax

Another reason for the futures being positive.

/Obama puts on the adult diapers to stop the punative tax nonsense

oh puhleeeze....... that jug eared fuckwit created this whole mess: it was his morons in the treasury dept who told his idiot friends in the congress to allow the bonuses, which are exactly jack shit out of all the money he and the rest of the morons are spending on this stupidity, and now all of a sudden he's pretending he doesn't know anything about it?

BULLSHIT!

164 Ledger1  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:40:05am

Obama is an self-indulging idiot.

Get this: Obama wants to hold talks with the Ex-president Chirac to pump-up anti-war rallies. This will fit with his Cut & Run from Iraq and Afghanistan stance. {spit}

[monster sand critics]

US President Barack Obama has indirectly praised former French president Jacques Chirac's fierce opposition to the US-led invasion of Iraq, the online edition of the daily Le Figaro reported on Thursday.

In a letter described by Chirac as 'very nice,' Obama wrote, 'I am certain that we will be able to work together, in the coming four years, in a spirit of peace and friendship to build a safer world.'

The use of the word 'peace' was taken to be an indirect reference to Chirac's stance against the US intervention in Iraq, which Obama had also opposed as senator.

See: Obama honors Chirac stance against Iraq War

[GP]

…current French President Sarkozy was apparently upset with the letter.

[poster notes]

Doesn't Obama ever consult his staff before acting? Sarkozy is the President there! It's like Sarko writing to George Bush and saying he looks forward to working with him. Chirac is the FORMER president.

See: GP on Obama and Chirac

Just to ensure the story is true I googled it and translated it a best as possible.

[translation by bablefish]

The US president comes d' to very address a letter “sympathetic nerve” to Jacques Chirac, according to l' expression of this last. “I am certain that we will be able during the four years to come to collaborate together in a spirit of peace and d' friendship in order to build a surer world”, writes the successor of George W. Bush to the predecessor of Nicolas Sarkozy. While evoking the word of “peace”, Obama pays a homage implicit to action of l' former French president who was opposed to the war in Iraq. An American intervention against which the future US president s' was opposed as senator, at the time of the vote to the Congress.

See: Obama honors Chirac

165 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:40:18am

re: #76 Gus 802

Let's see:

Punch Drunk
Ignoramus
Special Olympics

That's been Obama during the previous week.

This week has been a PISser for 0bama, hasn't it?

166 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:40:30am

Q. Why don't they have fireworks at Euro Disney?

A. Because every time they shoot them off, the French try to surrender.

167 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:40:49am

re: #165 gmsc

This week has been a PISser for 0bama, hasn't it?

Thanks! I didn't notice that. :)

168 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:40:57am

re: #160 Erik The Red

60 Minutes Kroft To Joking Obama "Are You Punch Drunk?"

Don't know if this has been posted yet?

The Presidency of The USA is not a joke.

It is now.

169 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:41:07am

re: #157 astronmr20

Is this going to make any difference?

It makes me feel better.

I like seeing the numbers grow and knowing that each one represents someone who feels like I do ...that Murtha is a scumbag asshole who owes an apology to those Marines.

And, it matters to TFK too, and that's good enough for me.

170 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:41:38am

re: #160 Erik The Red

The Presidency of The USA is not a joke.

It is now.

171 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:41:50am

re: #160 Erik The Red

60 Minutes Kroft To Joking Obama "Are You Punch Drunk?"

Don't know if this has been posted yet?

The Presidency of The USA is not a joke.

No, but the President is.

172 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:41:56am

re: #161 pink freud

I don't know that invoking Socrates will do a lot of good, but I wish you luck on that. As for that prof ...perhaps the founding fathers did not imagine a society such as that which exists today, but I dare say they did envision a government such as the one in existence today ...and that that is the very reason the second was put in there.

%-)

173 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:42:51am

re: #168 gmsc

It is now.

re: #170 astronmr20

The Presidency of The USA is not a joke.

It is now.

re: #171 pink freud

No, but the President is.

GMTA!

174 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:43:47am

re: #163 redc1c4 jug eared fuckwit

Indeed. Can I use that?

175 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:44:12am

re: #152 gmsc

It's taxable under U.S. tax law.

176 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:45:18am

re: #174 astronmr20

jug eared fuckwit

Indeed. Can I use that?

by all means.... and use the respectful term "Ear Leader" where decorum is called for.

177 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:45:21am

re: #174 astronmr20

jug eared fuckwit

Indeed. Can I use that?

Be very careful!

;-)

178 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:45:31am

re: #175 littleoldlady

It's taxable under U.S. tax law.

Good morning, littleoldlady!

179 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:45:41am

re: #175 littleoldlady

It's taxable under U.S. tax law.

Yep.

180 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:45:45am

re: #164 Ledger1

It's simple.

The 5-year-old-in-chief is sore about Sarcozy calling his foreign policy theories "incredibly naive" during the campaign.

181 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:45:46am

I understand Mattel is going to come out with a talking Obama doll. Pull the string, and it says absolutely nothing, unless there is a telePrompter in front of it.

182 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:45:48am

Hey, whoever or whatever stops this 90% retroactive tax farce.

/it makes Wall Street and the markets angry

183 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:46:02am

re: #174 astronmr20

jug eared fuckwit

Indeed. Can I use that?

Can I even pronounce that?

184 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:46:25am

A lady bought a new $100,000 Mercedes and proudly drove it off the showroom floor to take home. Halfway home, she attempted to change radio stations and saw that there appeared to be only one station. She immediately turned around and headed back to the dealer.

Once at the dealer, she found her salesman and began to excitedly explain that her radio was not working, and they must replace it since she only had one radio station. The salesman calmed her down and told her that her car radio was voice-activated, and that she would only need to state aloud the type of music that she wanted and the car would find it.

She got into the car and started the engine and then said the word "country," and the radio changed to a station playing a George Strait song. She was satisfied and started home. After a while she decided to try out the radio and said "rock 'n' roll;" the radio station changed and a song by the Rolling Stones came from the speakers. Quite pleased, the woman continued driving.

A few blocks from her house, another driver ran a light causing her to slam on her brakes to avoid a collision. The woman angrily exclaimed, "Asshole!"

...The radio cut over to President Obama's press conference.

185 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:46:31am

re: #175 littleoldlady

Goodmorning LittleOldLady!

So, what do you think about that jug-eared fuckwit?

186 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:46:55am

re: #177 littleoldlady

Be very careful!

;-)

Evening, dear.

Had I know you were lurking I might have used more respectable language!

187 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:47:49am

re: #186 astronmr20

Evening, dear.

Had I know you were lurking I might have used more respectable language!

Ruh roh.

188 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:47:59am

re: #183 gmsc

Can I even pronounce that?

it helps if you were ever in a combat arms MOS......

or w*rked in a factory or construction. %-)

189 freetoken  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:48:33am

re: #154 Dustyvet


Each will be driving a Volvo with a Darwin Fish magnet and bumper sticker that reads: "I voted for Kerry, I'm gay, and I'm here to take your guns."

190 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:48:37am

Obama Bumper Stickers

Drinkin with Bob

191 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:48:38am

re: #175 littleoldlady

BTW, last night you were lamenting about how women weren't encouraged in the sciences, and I mentioned you might enjoy a few resources related to learning about science (and other things) in an upcoming blog post of mine.

I put it up earlier today! It's titled Fun and Free (and Nostalgic!) Learning Resources.

I hope you enjoy it!

192 zombie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:48:52am

A little glimpse in to another mindset:

Assata Shakur (Tupac's Aunt) says:

"Lovelle Mixon: Oakland Police Shooter Kills 3 PIGS"

Here commenters add:

"Can anyone guess how many innocent Black men were cut down by Oakland PD over a five year span? A dozen. I have no remorse for those cops knowing Black people have been murdered by OPD, and rarely was justice appropriated on behalf of the victims and their families. Moreover, it's likely the pigs who got canceled probably maimed, framed, or killed a brother on the street at some point and time in their career.

Pigs who kill innocent, unarmed civilians often keep their jobs while the victims are dead and buried and their grieving families get nothing but a lifetime of misery and heartache.

No tears no remorse for OPD.....NONE."

And...

"I lived in Oakland during the early 90s. Pigs were notorious up until the April 27 (Rodney King) Rebellions, when the Uhuru Movement led the country's only organized uprising. LPO Chairman Biko Lumumba (RIP) led all action that day; as LPO secretary and NPDUM sec I played a key role in rumble, yet it must be stated that the masses carried the day. In the weeks and months following the uprising, the pigs were backed up against the wall.

While this brother may have had absolutely no revolutionary aspirations, he had the spirit of resistance. When you take into account the class peace which existed in Oakland up to the Oscar Grant execution, we have to view Lovelle Mixon's actions in this context. Some people who walk in fear will attempt to terrorize the masses with their personal fear of the pigs, that the pigs will retaliate and make life harder for Africans...."

Etc., etc.

If you know where to look, there are hundreds of blogs with similar sentiments.

Welcome to my world.

193 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:50:34am

re: #192 zombie

Wow.

194 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:50:37am

re: #186 astronmr20

Evening, dear.

Had I know you were lurking I might have used more respectable language!

had i known she was lurking, i would have been talking dirtier, just to the fruitcup would be more souped up 'cause she got excited and the ingredients got carried away when she did......

195 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:50:44am

re: #192 zombie

Makes you want to go out and buy some firearms, doesn't it?

196 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:50:45am

God created the mule, and told him, "You will be mule, working constantly from dusk to dawn, carrying heavy loads on your back. You will eat grass and lack intelligence. You will live for 50 years."

The mule answered, "To live like this for 50 years is too much. Please, give me no more than 20." And it was so.

Then God created the dog, and told him, "You will hold vigilance over the dwellings of Man, to whom you will be his greatest companion. You will eat his table scraps and live for 25 years."

And the dog responded, "Lord, to live 25 years as a dog like that is too much. Please, no more than 10 years." And it was so.

God then created the monkey, and told him, "You are monkey. You shall swing from tree to tree, acting like an idiot. You will be funny, and you shall live for 20 years."

And the monkey responded, "Lord, to live 20 years as the clown of the world is too much. Please, Lord, give me no more than 10 years." And it was so.

Finally, God created Man and told him, "You are Man, the only rational being that walks the earth. You will use your intelligence to have mastery over the creatures of the world. You will dominate the earth and live for 20 years."

And the man responded, "Lord, to be Man for only 20 years is too little. Please, Lord, give me the 30 years the mule refused, the 15 years the dog refused, and the 10 years the monkey rejected." And it was so.

And so God made Man to live 20 years as a man, then marry and live 30 years like a mule working and carrying heavy loads on his back. Then, he is to have children and live 15 years as a dog, guarding his house and eating the leftovers after they empty the pantry; then, in his old age, to live 10 years as a monkey, acting like an idiot to amuse his grand children.

197 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:50:46am

re: #192 zombie

That's why I live in North Carolina.

198 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:50:51am

re: #192 zombie

Wasn't one of the Oakland detectives implicated in the Your Black Muslim Bakery/Chauncey Bailey investigation?

199 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:51:58am

Goodnight everyone, time for me to shut it down.

200 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:52:11am

Howdy, gmsc! :-)

I'm waiting for my brain to get out of bed...

pink! :-)

So, what do you think about that jug-eared fuckwit?

I can't listen to him (on TV). This started right after the "Philadelphia" speech, when he defended Rev Wright. I knew he was lying through his teeth, but when I realized he actually FOOLED vast quantities of people...well, mass hypnosis has never been my bag.

Best I can do is read the post-mortems on LGF - like the 60 minutes thread down below.

201 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:52:53am

re: #199 pink freud

Goodnight everyone, time for me to shut it down.

Good nite, pink freud!

202 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:52:56am

re: #199 pink freud

Goodnight everyone, time for me to shut it down.

Later!

203 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:53:01am

re: #186 astronmr20

Evening, dear.

Had I know you were lurking I might have used more respectable language!

Doll! I was a waitress for many years!

/not to worry
;-)

204 pink freud  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:53:13am

re: #200 littleoldlady

LGF keeps me more or less sane.

Goodnight!

205 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:53:15am

re: #193 pink freud

Wow.


and "Damn......"

206 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:54:15am

'Night, pink!

/like sheeps in the night...
© Archie Bunker

207 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:54:59am

Good night, PF.

208 zombie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:55:55am

re: #198 Fenway_Nation

Wasn't one of the Oakland detectives implicated in the Your Black Muslim Bakery/Chauncey Bailey investigation?

I don't know.

209 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:55:55am

re: #198 Fenway_Nation


Clarification: Probably not one of the three Oakland PD officers slain this weekend. But my understanding was that Your Black Muslim Bakery had disproportionate influence with the municipal government in Oakland...

210 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:55:56am

zombie,

Major OY. :-(

211 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:56:25am

Q. What do you get when you cross a democrat with a pig?

A. Nothing. There are some things even a pig won't do.

212 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:56:37am

re: #175 littleoldlady

Early start. LoL. Last night gmsc gave you a Hula Hoop.....tonight I give you a slinky.....

Slinky

213 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:56:45am

re: #206 littleoldlady

'Night, pink!

/like sheeps in the night...
© Archie Bunker

Ships in the Night

214 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:57:58am

re: #192 zombie

What a cliche riddled comment from this woman. No surprise that she's a family member to Tupac Shakur.

Brothers? What is she in a union? She claims that these cops would have "maimed or killed" some "brother" in the future? The reality is that brothers are killing brother in numbers that far exceed the average death rate for the DOD in Iraq. It is the "brothers" own urban culture that promotes this bizzaro "do not snitch" gang banger criminal behavior within certain elements of that sub-culture.

The reality is that if it weren't for the Oakland PD those monsters would be killing EACH OTHER in greater numbers than they are now. In the end they save more lives than she can ever fathom.

215 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 12:59:28am

re: #212 Pietr

Early start. LoL. Last night gmsc gave you a Hula Hoop.....tonight I give you a slinky.....

Slinky

Too cute!

216 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:01:34am

re: #191 gmsc

FABULOUS! :-)

I'm saving it for reading later. (When the brain shows up. ;-)

When MNTS was little I hired a "science guy" for one of her birthday parties. I think I had more fun - and learned more - than the kids did!

217 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:01:58am

re: #214 Gus 802

What a cliche riddled comment from this woman. No surprise that she's a family member to Tupac Shakur.

Brothers? What is she in a union? She claims that these cops would have "maimed or killed" some "brother" in the future? The reality is that brothers are killing brother in numbers that far exceed the average death rate for the DOD in Iraq. It is the "brothers" own urban culture that promotes this bizzaro "do not snitch" gang banger criminal behavior within certain elements of that sub-culture.

The reality is that if it weren't for the Oakland PD those monsters would be killing EACH OTHER in greater numbers than they are now. In the end they save more lives than she can ever fathom.

now, now, now..... it's racist of you to try and confuse her with facts.

you are just *SO* insensitive.

218 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:02:45am

A firefighter was working on the engine outside the station, when he
Noticed a little girl nearby in a little red wagon with little ladders
Hung off the sides, and a garden hose tightly coiled in the middle.

The girl was wearing a firefighters helmet. The wagon was being pulled
By her dog and her cat. The firefighter walked over to take a closer
Look.

'That sure is a nice fire truck,' the firefighter said with admiration.
'Thanks,' the girl replied. The firefighter looked a little closer. The
Girl had tied the wagon to her dog's collar and to the cat's testicles.

'Little partner,' the firefighter said, 'I don't want to tell you how to
Run your rig, but if you were to tie that rope around the cat's
Collar, I think you could go faster.'
The little girl replied thoughtfully, 'You're probably right, but then I
Wouldn't have a siren.'

219 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:03:09am

re: #212 Pietr

Pietr! :-)

ROTFL!

220 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:03:29am

Oh look, you can now keep Sea Kittens at home...:)


Image: tanks001gq8.jpg

221 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:04:33am

re: #214 Gus 802

I know I've said this before, but it bears repeating.

If I was one of those sinister, all-powerful white antagonists in a blaxploitation movie, I'd see to it that some sort of art form (and I'll apply the term loosely here) gained traction with the inner-city black community. I'd see to it that this art-form would glorify crime, misogyny (especially towards black women) and black-on-black violence. Now there would be some members of the black community who could easily see through my nefarious scheme....but I would arrange for some of the artists (who have 'street cred') to dismiss their critics as 'Uncle Toms' or people who know nothing about growing up in the 'hood.

And I would call this art-form so pivotal to my nefarious scheme 'hip-hop'.

The only problem is that someone beat me to it by about 25 years...

222 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:04:35am

re: #192 zombie

I have a sister-in-law who lives in Oakland and went to Berkeley.

We don't talk politics. She's a Jew from Detroit but she's assimilated into that San Francisco culture and we no longer have anything to talk about. Once in a great while she has a moment of clarity, but most of the time it's like talking to a brick wall. The very idea of someone voting for a Republican is so completely alien to her that she doesn't even know how to respond when the subject comes up except to giggle derisively and claim that Republicans simply don't exist in her neighborhood. She's probably right. I fear for her child...

223 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:04:49am

re: #217 redc1c4

now, now, now..... it's racist of you to try and confuse her with facts.

you are just *SO* insensitive.

Yeah, I know. We're supposed to be quiet. Freedom of speech only applies to protected species. :)

Here's the Wiki entry for this monster Assata Shakur.

Contents
1 Early life
2 Allegations and manhunt
3 New Jersey Turnpike shootout
4 Criminal charges and dispositions
4.1 Bronx bank robbery trials
4.1.1 Retrial
4.2 Attempted murder dismissal
4.3 Kidnapping trial
4.4 Queens bank robbery trial
4.5 Turnpike trial
4.5.1 Defense attorneys
4.5.2 Witnesses
4.5.3 Jury
4.5.4 Medical evidence
4.5.5 Other evidence
4.5.6 Conviction and sentencing
4.6 Murder dismissal
4.7 Attempted robbery dismissal
5 Imprisonment
6 Escape
7 Political asylum in Cuba
7.1 Extradition attempts

224 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:05:46am

re: #220 Dustyvet

Oh look, you can now keep Sea Kittens at home...:)

[Link: img153.imageshack.us...]

Image: funny-pictures-unhappy-puffer-fish.jpg

225 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:06:20am

re: #213 redc1c4

Wouldn't be a bad song if the guys could sing ON KEY.

226 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:06:58am

re: #152 gmsc

The Rise of the Underground

Hat tip: Instapundit

re: #175 littleoldlady

It's taxable under U.S. tax law.

Going back and reading the article, to what are you referring?

I'm pretty sure that you don't mean an market in India is taxable under US law?

As for the entire concept of underground markets, yes, the activity is taxable, but the whole point is that the people involved are faced with a choice of either breaking the law or not surviving.

227 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:07:11am

re: #221 Fenway_Nation

Isn't that the truth.

Now endorsed by BET. Another reality that isn't brought up in "polite society."

228 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:07:30am

re: #224 Dustyvet

I've never seen a baby puffer before, Dusty-that was beautifull......:>))

229 zombie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:07:39am

IndyBay chimes in, blaming the police, and mouring the death of the tragic "victim":

On Saturday, March 21st, for the second time in recent months, police in Oakland shot and killed a young African American man apparently after prematurely resorting to the use of deadly force when alternative remedies were available. This time, the haste on the part of police caused them to lose two of their own just after two other officers had just been shot, with one killed, at a separate location.

It all started with a routine traffic stop at about 1:15 p.m. near the 7400 block of MacArthur Boulevard in East Oakland. Two Oakland motorcycle officers are said to have stopped 26 year-old Lovelle Mixon, an African American man from Oakland. Police allege that Mr. Mixon shot the two traffic officers and then fled.

According to police, about two hours after the shooting, they had information which led them to believe Mr. Mixon was hiding alone in an apartment on 74th Avenue near Hillside Street. At that point, over 200 officers from the Oakland Police, Alameda County Sheriff's Office, BART Police and the California Highway Patrol surrounded the area where Mr. Mixon was believed to be.

However, rather than attempt a carefully planned, negotiated, non-violent ending, and angry over the shooting of the two traffic officers, a hasty Oakland Police Swat Team apparently rushed into the building armed with military rifles, assault weapons and other means of deadly force to use against Mr. Mixon. In the heat of the moment, there was allegedly an exchange of gunfire between Mr. Mixon and the Swat officers. It's not clear yet whether Mr. Mixon fired in self-defense, but no information suggests that he was a threat while he remained there alone. In the exchange of gunfire, Mr. Mixon was killed. Three Swat officers were also shot, two of whom later died.

The incident is still being investigated. Thus far, the Oakland Police have offered no explanation for the Swat Team's departure from ordinary officer safety precautions, such as why it was imminently necessary to storm into the building if they had it surrounded and believed Mr. Mixon was alone or had no reason to believe he had hostages.

According to one police officer who asked not to be identified, police are trained to encourage attempts at negotiations in order to facilitate non-violent outcomes when someone is barricaded or "holed up." The officer said that this is true even when the person hiding out has done something violent or actually has hostages.

Many people are now wondering if the police were hasty, careless or reckless this time because they were angry that someone had shot two of their own. Questions have been raised as to whether their resolve to get revenge influenced what should have been an overriding concern for minimizing the risk of additional violence after one violent confrontation had already occurred.

What is clear, however, is that a young African American man from Oakland who was only a suspect was promptly killed rather than arrested. Although nothing yet suggests that the two motorcycle officers could have avoided their fate, Mr. Mixon's death, and the deaths of the two Swat officers, might very well have been avoided if reasonable attempts to negotiate Mr. Mixon's voluntary exit had been exhausted.

Let it be noted that this essayist is utterly lying: The cops spent an HOUR trying to talk the guy out of his hiding place, to no avail. It was send in the SWAT team, or let him get away with it. Negotiation failed.

230 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:08:17am

I like dirty, filthy, nasty women with high moral standards. And my defininition of high moral standards is their willingness to get dirty, filthy and nasty with me alone. ;~)

231 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:08:21am

re: #216 littleoldlady

FABULOUS! :-)

I'm saving it for reading later. (When the brain shows up. ;-)

When MNTS was little I hired a "science guy" for one of her birthday parties. I think I had more fun - and learned more - than the kids did!

Thanks!

Interesting how learning works like that.

232 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:10:36am

re: #226 gmsc

Bartering in the U.S.

/I TOLD you my brain hasn't arrived yet! ;-)

Of course, they have to catch you first. There's also yard sales and flea markets, and any number of other ways of doing business that the government isn't likely to find out one is doing.

/not ME, of course.
//I NEVER break the law!

233 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:11:51am

You don't stop laughing when you get old,



You get old when you stop laughing! :>))

234 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:12:40am

re: #232 littleoldlady

Bartering in the U.S.

/I TOLD you my brain hasn't arrived yet! ;-)

Of course, they have to catch you first. There's also yard sales and flea markets, and any number of other ways of doing business that the government isn't likely to find out one is doing.

/not ME, of course.
//I NEVER break the law!

I tried to think, and nothing happened...

Curly Howard

235 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:12:49am

re: #229 zombie

To hell with these people.

236 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:13:25am

re: #225 littleoldlady

Wouldn't be a bad song if the guys could sing ON KEY.

sing, schming..... them boys can PLAY!

how about Maid in Heaven or Panic in the World?

237 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:13:44am

DJIA future up over 200.

/the markets are liking this Public-Private Investment Program

238 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:14:14am

re: #232 littleoldlady

Bartering in the U.S.

/I TOLD you my brain hasn't arrived yet! ;-)

Of course, they have to catch you first. There's also yard sales and flea markets, and any number of other ways of doing business that the government isn't likely to find out one is doing.

/not ME, of course.
//I NEVER break the law!

Gotcha!

Related note to the jug-eared fuckwit (I like that!):

"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, 'Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Francisco d'Anconia
239 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:14:18am

They always ask at the doctor's office why you are there, and you have to answer in front of others what's wrong and sometimes it is very embarrassing. There's nothing worse than a Doctor's Receptionist who insists you tell her what is wrong with you in a room full of other patients. I know most of us have experienced this, and I love the way this old guy handled it:

An 86 year old man walked into a crowded waiting room and approached the desk.... The Receptionist said, "Yes sir, what are you seeing the Doctor for today?"

"There's something wrong with my dick", he replied.

The Receptionist became irritated and said, "You shouldn't come into a crowded waiting room and say things like that."

"Why not? You asked me what was wrong and I told you," he said.

The Receptionist replied; "Now you've caused some embarrassment in this room full of people. You should have said there is something wrong with your ear or something and discussed the problem further with the Doctor in private."

The man replied, "You shouldn't ask people questions in a room full strangers, if the answer could embarrass anyone."

The man walked out, waited several minutes and then reentered.

The Receptionist smiled smugly and asked, "Yes?"

"There's something wrong with my ear," he stated ..

The Receptionist nodded approvingly and smiled, knowing he had taken her advice. "And what is wrong with your ear, Sir?"

"I can't piss out of it," he replied.

The waiting room erupted in laughter.

Mess with seniors and you're gonna lose

240 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:15:00am

re: #237 Killian Bundy

DJIA future up over 200.

/the markets are liking this Public-Private Investment Program

But for how long?

/Dun-dun-duuuuun....

241 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:15:05am

re: #237 Killian Bundy

DJIA future up over 200.

/the markets are liking this Public-Private Investment Program

WHO in their right mind would get involved with a government that will tax ALL of your profits on a whim?!

/there is some bad mental illness out there...

242 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:15:14am

re: #222 foxtrotter

I have a sister-in-law who lives in Oakland and went to Berkeley.

We don't talk politics. She's a Jew from Detroit but she's assimilated into that San Francisco culture and we no longer have anything to talk about. Once in a great while she has a moment of clarity, but most of the time it's like talking to a brick wall. The very idea of someone voting for a Republican is so completely alien to her that she doesn't even know how to respond when the subject comes up except to giggle derisively and claim that Republicans simply don't exist in her neighborhood. She's probably right. I fear for her child...

natural selection will take care of that...... but that's pretty hard on the poor kid.

243 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:15:29am

re: #230 Salamantis

I like dirty, filthy, nasty women with high moral standards. And my defininition of high moral standards is their willingness to get dirty, filthy and nasty with me alone. ;~)

Do you find many women who meet those qualifications?

244 zombie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:15:55am

Some of the comments on that IndyBay article:

If he would have surrendered they would have simply killed him in jail and said he tripped and broke his neck or hung himself like they always do. This way, at least he got four for the price of one. Also, some people really need to know that everyone does not live like them. I have had many unfortunate things happen to me and I DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT call the police, some of us know better. They may protect some, but the rest of us just get served and not in a good way.

---

police procedure is harass anyone who appears not straight haired white enough

---

The real bad guys

It's pretty hard to be sympathetic to cops in Oakland these days when they're shooting unarmed people in the back, firing rubber bullets at protestors, lying on the witness stands, covering up their colleagues' uses of excessive force, and performing unlawful stops, searches and seizures on a regular basis. Lately, they've been the real bad guys, so nobody should be surprised at the lack of sympathy now. They've brought the esentiment on themselves.

---

Careless aggressive cops learned the hard way

i imagine that the other cops learned an important lesson yesterday and won't be so quick to storm in to the next guy's house. oaklanders fight back. 1 for 4...
who lost that battle? let it be a lesson

Etc.

245 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:16:30am

re: #237 Killian Bundy

DJIA future up over 200.

/the markets are liking this Public-Private Investment Program

then they are smoking straight crack: as soon as the meme becomes "you've made too much money" all your profits will be taxed, just like the poor suckers at AIG who offered to stay on and unfuck things.

246 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:17:02am

re: #239 Pietr

They always ask at the doctor's office why you are there, and you have to answer in front of others what's wrong and sometimes it is very embarrassing. There's nothing worse than a Doctor's Receptionist who insists you tell her what is wrong with you in a room full of other patients. I know most of us have experienced this, and I love the way this old guy handled it:

An 86 year old man walked into a crowded waiting room and approached the desk.... The Receptionist said, "Yes sir, what are you seeing the Doctor for today?"

"There's something wrong with my dick", he replied.

The Receptionist became irritated and said, "You shouldn't come into a crowded waiting room and say things like that."

"Why not? You asked me what was wrong and I told you," he said.

The Receptionist replied; "Now you've caused some embarrassment in this room full of people. You should have said there is something wrong with your ear or something and discussed the problem further with the Doctor in private."

The man replied, "You shouldn't ask people questions in a room full strangers, if the answer could embarrass anyone."

The man walked out, waited several minutes and then reentered.

The Receptionist smiled smugly and asked, "Yes?"

"There's something wrong with my ear," he stated ..

The Receptionist nodded approvingly and smiled, knowing he had taken her advice. "And what is wrong with your ear, Sir?"

"I can't piss out of it," he replied.

The waiting room erupted in laughter.

Mess with seniors and you're gonna lose

"Old age is an excellent time for outrage. My goal is to say or do at least one outrageous thing every week."
--Maggie Kuhn

247 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:17:03am

re: #243 foxtrotter

Do you find many women who meet those qualifications?

well, he's here most of the time..... %-)

248 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:17:12am

re: #241 littleoldlady

WHO in their right mind would get involved with a government that will tax ALL of your profits on a whim?!

/Obama hinted at a veto for the tantrum tax last night

249 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:18:15am

re: #233 Pietr

You don't stop laughing when you get old,

You get old when you stop laughing! :>))

I am 53, and I hope that I never grow old, or even grow up. My definition of growing up and growing old is when I am unable or unwilling to continue to learn and grow. And I wanna keep learning and growing until the moment that I die. And beyond, if that proves to be possible.

250 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:18:30am

re: #248 Killian Bundy

/Obama hinted at a veto for the tantrum tax last night

...and we all know 0bama would never go back on anything he's said!

251 Salamantis  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:19:37am

re: #243 foxtrotter

Do you find many women who meet those qualifications?

One is enough.

252 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:19:57am

An old woman was arrested for shoplifting at a grocery store. When she appeared before the judge, the judge asked what she had taken. The lady replied, "A can of peaches." The judge then asked why she had done it. She replied, "I was hungry and forgot to bring any cash to the store." The judge asked how many peaches were in the can. She replied, "Nine." The judge said, "Well then, I'm going to give you nine days in jail--one day for each peach." As the judge was about to drop his gavel, the lady's husband raised his hand and asked if he might speak. The judge said, "Yes, what do you have to add?" The husband said, "Your honor, she also stole a can of peas."

253 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:20:22am

re: #244 zombie

They're all a bunch of white kids posting there to.

Go figure.

254 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:21:09am

re: #250 gmsc

Is propose one really bad idea and then backing away from it so that the rest of your bad ideas can get approval something fromthe Saul Alinsky playbook?

255 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:21:17am

re: #242 redc1c4

natural selection will take care of that...... but that's pretty hard on the poor kid.

I feel like abducting that poor child and homeschooling it here in the midwest along with my kid but that seems to be illegal. Bummer.

256 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:21:52am

# Re-released hits for baby boomers:

* “You’re So Varicose Vein” by Carly Simon
* “How Can You Mend A Broken Hip?” by the BeeGees
* “The First Time Ever I Forgot Your Face” by Roberta Flack
* “I Can’t See Clearly Now” by Johnny Nash
* “Papa Got A Kidney Stone” by the Temptations
* “These Boots Give Me Arthritis” by Nancy Sinatra
* “You Make Me Feel Like Napping” by Leo Sayer
* “Once, Twice, Three Trips to the Bathroom” by the Commodores
* “A Whiter Shade of Hair” by Procol Harum
* “I Get By with a Little Help from Depends” by the Beatles
* “Rikki, Don’t Lose Your Car Keys” by Steely Dan
* “Mrs. Brown, You’ve Got a Lovely Walker” by Herman's Hermits
* “Talkin’ ‘Bout My Medication” by the Who
* “Bald Thing” by the Troggs
* “You Can’t Always Pee When You Want” by the Rolling Stones
* “I Heard It through the Grape Nuts” by Marvin Gaye
* And last, but definitely not least, “Bad Prune Rising” by Credence Clearwater Revivial (our personal favorite)

257 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:22:03am

re: #248 Killian Bundy

/Obama hinted at a veto for the tantrum tax last night

The expiration date for anything 0bama has outright promised is roughly 30 minutes.

When it comes to promises that are hinted or implied, the 0bama expiration date drops down to 30 seconds.

258 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:22:44am

re: #254 Fenway_Nation

Is propose one really bad idea and then backing away from it so that the rest of your bad ideas can get approval something fromthe Saul Alinsky playbook?

I can't be sure, but I wouldn't be surprised.

259 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:22:47am

re: #248 Killian Bundy

/Obama hinted at a veto for the tantrum tax last night

Whadda great guy he is!

/is he going to call off the dogs of war ACORN, too?

BTW, I have some rotten bananas I was about to throw out. Would you like to buy them?

260 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:23:26am

re: #256 Dustyvet

* And last, but definitely not least, “Bad Prune Rising” by Credence Clearwater Revivial (our personal favorite)

"...I see a bathroom on the right...."
;)

261 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:24:35am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Whadda great guy he is!

/is he going to call off the dogs of war ACORN, too?

BTW, I have some rotten bananas I was about to throw out. Would you like to buy them?

262 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:24:59am

re: #251 Salamantis

One is enough.

re: #251 Salamantis

One is enough.

That is true enough. If only everyone could find their perfect dirty, filthy, nasty partner, the world would be a much happier place.

263 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:25:12am

re: #248 Killian Bundy

/Obama hinted at a veto for the tantrum tax last night

Juggy fomented the outrage that causee the tax...... i call bullshit.

264 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:26:00am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Whadda great guy he is!

/is he going to call off the dogs of war ACORN, too?

BTW, I have some rotten bananas I was about to throw out. Would you like to buy them?

1) If ACORN is involved in the 2010 Census, the only response any census taker at my door will get is, "Show me a warrant."

2) If I receive a form in the mail, I'll fill out the short form only. If I get the long form, I'm answering only the questions on the short form. If that results in someone coming to my door to get the rest of the information, I go back to the first approach.

265 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:26:30am

Ft. Worth, TX 13 Feb 09

Ft. Worth Police today reported finding a John Doe male body in the Trinity River.

The victim apparently drowned due to excessive beer consumption.
He was only wearing black fishnet stockings, a red garter belt, a strap-on dildo, High Heels, and an Obama T-shirt. He also had a LARGE cucumber stuffed up his butt.

The police thoughtfully removed the Obama T-shirt to spare the Victim's family any unnecessary embarrassment.

266 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:27:13am

re: #255 foxtrotter

I feel like abducting that poor child and homeschooling it here in the midwest along with my kid but that seems to be illegal. Bummer.

maybe he'll wind up down at the Marine Recruiter's office there?

267 Dustyvet  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:27:27am

re: #265 Pietr

Ft. Worth, TX 13 Feb 09

Ft. Worth Police today reported finding a John Doe male body in the Trinity River.

The victim apparently drowned due to excessive beer consumption.
He was only wearing black fishnet stockings, a red garter belt, a strap-on dildo, High Heels, and an Obama T-shirt. He also had a LARGE cucumber stuffed up his butt.

The police thoughtfully removed the Obama T-shirt to spare the Victim's family any unnecessary embarrassment.

*CRASH!*...

268 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:27:57am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Whadda great guy he is!

/is he going to call off the dogs of war ACORN, too?

BTW, I have some rotten bananas I was about to throw out. Would you like to buy them?

he's more likely to smoke them.....

269 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:28:08am

re: #198 Fenway_Nation

Wasn't one of the Oakland detectives implicated in the Your Black Muslim Bakery/Chauncey Bailey investigation?

Yeah. This has the info.

270 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:28:52am

re: #264 gmsc

GOOD PLAN! :-)

/warrant! LOL!

271 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:29:52am

re: #264 gmsc

1) If ACORN is involved in the 2010 Census, the only response any census taker at my door will get is, "Show me a warrant."

2) If I receive a form in the mail, I'll fill out the short form only. If I get the long form, I'm answering only the questions on the short form. If that results in someone coming to my door to get the rest of the information, I go back to the first approach.

Sounds like a plan. I will ask for all kinds of ID. If they're affiliated with ACORN I will refuse to answer any questions.

272 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:29:54am

Morning Lizards.

273 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:30:13am

re: #264 gmsc

1) If ACORN is involved in the 2010 Census, the only response any census taker at my door will get is, "Show me a warrant."

2) If I receive a form in the mail, I'll fill out the short form only. If I get the long form, I'm answering only the questions on the short form. If that results in someone coming to my door to get the rest of the information, I go back to the first approach.

don't do that.... it attracts attention. lie your ass off on the form instead.

if they buy the data, it's all screwed. if they come back to check, you can be difficult however you wish.

274 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:30:57am

rightside! :-)

275 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:31:32am

re: #271 Gus 802

Sounds like a plan. I will ask for all kinds of ID. If they're affiliated with ACORN I will refuse to answer any questions.

to simple and easy for them to fake your data for you.... invite them in and lie your ass off.

276 Syrah  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:31:56am

re: #241 littleoldlady

WHO in their right mind would get involved with a government that will tax ALL of your profits on a whim?!

/there is some bad mental illness out there...

Those who see themselves as being "net beneficiary's" will gladly and enthusiastically get involved.

277 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:32:05am

re: #274 littleoldlady

lol!

278 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:33:07am

re: #276 Syrah

Those who see themselves as being "net beneficiary's" will gladly and enthusiastically get involved.

I think I found someone to buy my bananas!

/Day-O!
;-)

279 Gus  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:33:22am

re: #275 redc1c4

to simple and easy for them to fake your data for you.... invite them in and lie your ass off.

Now there an idea. Suddenly I'm thinking I might be "Guamanian."

280 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:34:17am

OK - I have to admit it. My liberal friends were right - I should have
listened.
They told me if I voted for McCain, the nation's Hope would deteriorate, and sure enough there has been a 20 point drop in the Consumer Confidence Index since the election, reaching a lower point than any time during the Bush administration.
They told me if I voted for McCain, the US would become more deeply embroiled in the Middle East, and sure enough tens of thousands of additional troops are scheduled to be deployed into Afghanistan.
They told me if I voted for McCain, that the economy would get worse and sure enough unemployment is approaching 8.8% and the new stimulus packages implemented recently have sent the stock market lower than at any time since 9-11.
They told me if I voted for McCain, we would see more "crooks" in high ranking positions in Federal government and sure enough, several recent cabinet nominees and Senate appointments revealed resumes of bribery and tax fraud.
Well I ignored my Democrat friends in November and voted for McCain. And they were right . . . all of their predictions have come true.

281 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:34:55am

re: #229 zombie

IndyBay chimes in, blaming the police, and mouring the death of the tragic "victim":


Let it be noted that this essayist is utterly lying: The cops spent an HOUR trying to talk the guy out of his hiding place, to no avail. It was send in the SWAT team, or let him get away with it. Negotiation failed.

Making noise like teakettle, in lieu of using really bad language.

282 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:35:22am
283 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:37:23am

Since the bureaucrats are taking over, it's time for . . . The Bureaucrat Song!

284 Syrah  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:37:31am

re: #278 littleoldlady

I think I found someone to buy my bananas!

/Day-O!
;-)

Daylight come and I wanna go home.

And with that, Goodnight Lizards.

Share some happiness with your friends, family and coworkers tomorrow. In the trying times that are ahead of us, it will be important to be able to be someone who can bring some cheer and light into the dark corners.

285 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:37:44am

re: #266 redc1c4

maybe he'll wind up down at the Marine Recruiter's office there?

I hope so. And that it will be for the right reasons. I'm just so bored with lefties. I'm surrounded by them at work and in my social circle and it's just so bloody predictable and boring. Really, when did students become so dull that I can predict eveything they're going to say an hour in advance? Oh, since I got old? Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

286 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:37:48am

re: #255 foxtrotter

I feel like abducting that poor child and homeschooling it here in the midwest along with my kid but that seems to be illegal. Bummer.

For some reason, I'm seeing a wacky comedy, possibly starring Julia Roberts, unfolding here.

287 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:38:37am

re: #282 Killian Bundy

NASA halts test of space station urine recycler

/bummer

why? are you thirsty?

288 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:39:52am

re: #284 Syrah

'Night, Syrah! :-)

289 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:40:50am

re: #284 Syrah

G'Night. Syrah....

290 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:40:55am

re: #284 Syrah

Daylight come and I wanna go home.

And with that, Goodnight Lizards.

Share some happiness with your friends, family and coworkers tomorrow. In the trying times that are ahead of us, it will be important to be able to be someone who can bring some cheer and light into the dark corners.

Sleep well, Syrah! Tally me sheep!
;)

291 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:43:14am

re: #290 gmsc

Always with the math!

;-)

292 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:44:16am

I hope every incumbent is turned out of office in '10

293 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:44:48am

re: #286 SanFranciscoZionist

For some reason, I'm seeing a wacky comedy, possibly starring Julia Roberts, unfolding here.

Ooh, do I get to be the part Julia Roberts' character is based on? Maybe I can hang around the set and tell Julia she needs to wave an Israeli flag and really drill the kids on how awesome Henry V and John Bolton are so that she's really "authentic". Cause Hollywood stars are totally into authenticity, right? Too bad I'm not clumsy, 'cause Julia's great at clumsy. We're both Scorpios though, so that's something. We can bond and stuff.

294 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:45:02am

re: #285 foxtrotter

I hope so. And that it will be for the right reasons. I'm just so bored with lefties. I'm surrounded by them at work and in my social circle and it's just so bloody predictable and boring. Really, when did students become so dull that I can predict eveything they're going to say an hour in advance? Oh, since I got old? Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

my classes at the local JC are like that.... but i'm encouraging a rebellion in my English Composition class against the "Nickel & Dimed in America" calumny, and my law class has come to a grinding halt because the usual suspects don't know what to do with dissent besides shout it down or ignore it.

295 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:45:59am

re: #292 rightside

I hope every incumbent is turned out of office in '10

TERM LIMITS.

/the only thing that will save us!

296 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:46:01am

re: #293 foxtrotter

Ooh, do I get to be the part Julia Roberts' character is based on? Maybe I can hang around the set and tell Julia she needs to wave an Israeli flag and really drill the kids on how awesome Henry V and John Bolton are so that she's really "authentic". Cause Hollywood stars are totally into authenticity, right? Too bad I'm not clumsy, 'cause Julia's great at clumsy. We're both Scorpios though, so that's something. We can bond and stuff.

Sure, whatever you want...Henry V and John Bolton?

297 freetoken  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:46:08am

Per Red's request...

Our next installment of the 5 Rangers! :

298 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:46:10am

re: #293 foxtrotter

Ooh, do I get to be the part Julia Roberts' character is based on? Maybe I can hang around the set and tell Julia she needs to wave an Israeli flag and really drill the kids on how awesome Henry V and John Bolton are so that she's really "authentic". Cause Hollywood stars are totally into authenticity, right? Too bad I'm not clumsy, 'cause Julia's great at clumsy. We're both Scorpios though, so that's something. We can bond and stuff.

you're into bondage? i'm not sure Julia is though......

/white smoke

299 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:47:11am

re: #295 littleoldlady

We already have those. Wake up, angry white males.

300 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:48:12am

re: #297 freetoken

/hangs satchel charge on the door, pulls fuse igniter and walks quickly around the corner.

301 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:49:44am

re: #299 rightside

We do?

302 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:50:11am

re: #296 SanFranciscoZionist

Sure, whatever you want...Henry V and John Bolton?

Are there others I should focus on in my history lessons?

I guess I should mention Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln, but I'm itching to jump straight to Bolton.

303 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:51:01am

re: #298 redc1c4

you're into bondage? i'm not sure Julia is though......

/white smoke

Eh, she's a Scorpio, I'm sure there's at least a little light bondage going on there.

304 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:52:47am

re: #291 littleoldlady

Always with the math!

;-)

Counting sheep works well for getting to sleep.

Especially when Ann Margaret is counting the sheep for you!

305 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:54:29am

re: #302 foxtrotter

Are there others I should focus on in my history lessons?

I guess I should mention Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln, but I'm itching to jump straight to Bolton.

"I want people to be able to get what they need to live: enough food, a place to live, and an education for their children. Government does not provide these as well as private charities and businesses."
-- Davy Crockett
(1786-1836) American hunter, frontiersman, soldier and politician


"If a majority are capable of preferring their own private interest, or that of
their families, counties, and party, to that of the nation collectively, some
provision must be made in the constitution, in favor of justice, to compel all
to respect the common right, the public good, the universal law, in preference to all private and partial considerations... And that the desires of the majority of the people are often for injustice and inhumanity against the minority, is demonstrated by every page of history... To remedy the dangers attendant upon the arbitrary use of power, checks, however multiplied, will scarcely avail without an explicit admission some limitation of the right of the majority to exercise sovereign authority over the individual citizen... In popular governments [democracies], minorities [individuals] constantly run much greater risk of suffering from arbitrary power than in absolute monarchies..."
-- John Adams
(1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President
Source: "On Government", (1778)

306 sanfranciscozionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:54:36am

re: #302 foxtrotter

Are there others I should focus on in my history lessons?

I guess I should mention Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln, but I'm itching to jump straight to Bolton.

It is traditional to mention Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln. Andrew Jackson sometimes comes up as well.

307 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:54:58am

re: #303 foxtrotter

Eh, she's a Scorpio, I'm sure there's at least a little light bondage going on there.

but will she come out of her shell?

308 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:57:03am

re: #294 redc1c4

my classes at the local JC are like that.... but i'm encouraging a rebellion in my English Composition class against the "Nickel & Dimed in America" calumny, and my law class has come to a grinding halt because the usual suspects don't know what to do with dissent besides shout it down or ignore it.

Egads! Way early Cure! I'm more of a Just Like Heaven/Pictures of You Cure fan.

Barbara (...however the hell you spell her last name...Ehrenreich?) irritates me. I read Nickel and Dimed and found her methods to be suspect. She put far too many restrictions on her actions so that she basically proved the point she wanted to make before she even started her indulgent experiment. Typical.

309 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:57:24am

re: #301 littleoldlady

We do?

We do!

310 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 1:59:07am

"He therefore is the truest friend to the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who, so far as his power and influence extend, will not suffer a man to be chosen into any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man. We must not conclude merely upon a man's haranguing upon liberty, and using the charming sound, that he is fit to be trusted with the liberties of his country. It is not unfrequent to hear men declaim loudly upon liberty, who, if we may judge by the whole tenor of their actions, mean nothing else by it but their own liberty, - to oppress without control or the restraint of laws all who are poorer or weaker than themselves. It is not, I say, unfrequent to see such instances, though at the same time I esteem it a justice due to my country to say that it is not without shining examples of the contrary kind; - examples of men of a distinguished attachment to this same liberty I have been describing; whom no hopes could draw, no terrors could drive, from steadily pursuing, in their sphere, the true interests of their country; whose fidelity has been tried in the nicest and tenderest manner, and has been ever firm and unshaken. The sum of all is, if we would most truly enjoy this gift of Heaven, let us become a virtuous people."

311 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:00:08am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!

312 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:00:38am

re: #306 sanfranciscozionist

It is traditional to mention Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln. Andrew Jackson sometimes comes up as well.

*sigh* Yes, I suppose I will have to cover the founding fathers and even a few of the not so founding fathers.

Must I cover Carter or is it acceptable to just skip the 70s after Watergate?

313 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:00:41am

re: #311 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!

Yay! Fruitcup has arrived!

Yummy!

314 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:00:45am

re: #301 littleoldlady

Yes, they're called elections.

315 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:00:57am

re: #308 foxtrotter

Egads! Way early Cure! I'm more of a Just Like Heaven/Pictures of You Cure fan.

Barbara (...however the hell you spell her last name...Ehrenreich?) irritates me. I read Nickel and Dimed and found her methods to be suspect. She put far too many restrictions on her actions so that she basically proved the point she wanted to make before she even started her indulgent experiment. Typical.

pretty much my diagnosis....... my 3 required "reading responses" where i wasn't allowed to directly critique the book have been thinly veiled "the book sucks" tours de force.

316 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:02:04am

re: #309 gmsc

The New World Odor™!

317 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:02:13am

re: #311 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!

it tastes funny.... what did you do to it?

318 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:02:35am

re: #311 littleoldlady

Thankee, M'am.....and another shot at levity:


There is a new study about women and how they feel about their asses, the results were pretty interesting: 30% of women think their ass is too fat..10% of women think their ass is too skinny......

The remaining 60% say they don't care, they love him, he's a good man, and they wouldn't trade him for the world.

319 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:03:07am

re: #312 foxtrotter

*sigh* Yes, I suppose I will have to cover the founding fathers and even a few of the not so founding fathers.

Must I cover Carter or is it acceptable to just skip the 70s after Watergate?

Heck you can skip Watergate! (OK, Nixon did open up relations with China.)

You can also skip 1992-2000, under President Warren G. Hardon.

320 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:03:17am

red,

Go that 'a way. ← ← ← ← ←

321 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:03:37am

re: #316 littleoldlady

The New World Odor™!

The New World B.O.?
;)

322 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:04:15am

Is fruitcup an hour early, or am I just imagining things?

Oh wait, I was reading LGF server time, not local time. Except local time here in B.C. is Pacific Time, but the oil patch runs on Mountain Time, so it's an hour later here.

Perfectly clear, it is.

Thanks for the fruitcup, littleoldlady!

323 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:04:44am

re: #318 Pietr

Bwaha!

Well, depending upon which one we're talking about...mine's either too fat or too skinny. ;-)

324 sanfranciscozionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:04:44am

re: #312 foxtrotter

*sigh* Yes, I suppose I will have to cover the founding fathers and even a few of the not so founding fathers.

Must I cover Carter or is it acceptable to just skip the 70s after Watergate?

When I was in high school, we never got past 1945. I seem to recall vaguely having a few pages of assigned reading on, maybe, Korea, but that would always be after we had taken the final.

The history department at my current school moves like lightning, though. I can't keep up with them, they do things like cover the French Revolution in two days.

A wise friend once told me that NO ONE gets all the standards done in history, so you have to pick which ones you're willing to sacrifice.

What age is the child in question?

325 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:04:47am

re: #320 littleoldlady

red,

Go that 'a way. ← ← ← ← ←

What's wrong with that-a-way? ➥➥➥➥➥

Or ➹ or ➫?

326 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:05:03am

re: #311 littleoldlady

Thanks for the fruitcup littleoldlady. Just what I needed right now.

327 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:05:06am

"It is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at the entering into society, to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights; when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defence of those very rights; the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property. If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation. The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave." - The Rights of the Colonists, November 20, 1772

328 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:05:15am

re: #311 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!

{lol} Morning and TYFFC

329 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:05:19am

re: #322 Alberta Oil Peon

Alberta Oil Peon! :-)

What?

;-)

330 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:06:25am

BlueCanuck! :-)

/wurking & lurking?

Hiya, Erik! :-)

re: #325 gmsc

Show off! ;-)

331 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:06:32am

re: #320 littleoldlady

red,

Go that 'a way. ← ← ← ← ←

great: yet ANOTHER woman telling me where to go.........

332 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:07:15am

Damn, I'm hungry. Fruitcup may be an appetizer tonight.

Too bad I brushed my teeth already.

333 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:07:47am

Good Morning, Lizaeds, and particularly LittleOldLady ...
Anything doing in the People's Republic of Amerika ?

334 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:08:34am

re: #331 redc1c4

It's for your own good...

335 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:09:27am

re: #333 Pass The Moonbaticide

Good Morning, Lizaeds, and particularly LittleOldLady ...
Anything doing in the People's Banana Republic of Amerika ?

FTFY

Well, 0bama was asked by 60 Minutes "journalists" if he as punch-drunk.

336 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:09:40am

Matrix! :-)

Pass The Moonbaticide! :-)

People shouldn't be allowed to have this much fun.

/of course, Obama will make it illegal soon enough...

337 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:10:11am

re: #330 littleoldlady

As per usual. Trying to keep my sanity tonight yet again.

338 sanfranciscozionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:10:12am

re: #333 Pass The Moonbaticide

Good Morning, Lizaeds, and particularly LittleOldLady ...
Anything doing in the People's Republic of Amerika ?

Cops getting shot, economy still tanked, I have to fail a kid in English for the quarter, and both the ass I sit on and the one I married could stand to lose a few pounds..but other than that, things are good.

339 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:10:16am

re: #335 gmsc

Again with the bananas!

/Variation on a Theme

;-)

340 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:11:29am

re: #335 gmsc
I wonder if his Bowling is improving ?
/He's a total ass without his autocue (what we call a Teleprompter)

341 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:12:08am

"The Opinion of others I very little regard, & have a thorough Contempt for all men, be their Names Characters & Stations what they may, who appear to be the irreclaimable Enemies of Religion & Liberty." - Letter to William Checkley, December 14, 1772


"No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders." - Letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775

"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom - go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!" - Speech at the State House, Philadelphia, August 1, 1776

"Courage, then, my countrymen, our contest is not only whether we ourselves shall be free, but whether there shall be left to mankind an asylum on earth for civil and religious liberty." - Speech at the State House, Philadelphia, August 1, 1776

342 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:12:53am

re: #340 Pass The Moonbaticide


I wonder if his Bowling is improving ?
/He's a total ass without his autocue (what we call a Teleprompter)

Take it away, and he only has 'Phone a Friend' and 'Ask the Audience' left......

343 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:13:44am

re: #338 sanfranciscozionist
Is that all ? Sheesh, You should try living in Britain !
/ You will be, shortly, if BHO has his way.

344 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:14:48am

re: #324 sanfranciscozionist


What age is the child in question?

Well, she's only 6, but I like to plan ahead. We've already covered the basics in ancient history up to the fall of Rome and I'm skipping ahead to American history for a bit because we plan on going to Jamestown/Williamsburg/Gettysburg this summer and I would like her to have at least some knowledge of American history before we go so that she has some idea what's going on.

After this summer I will jump back to medieval times and hope that I haven't messed things up too badly. She's a smart kid though and I think she'll be okay, but I know I've always had a hard time keeping historical events in chronological order so, well, we'll see.

I was telling her about Ponce de Leon today though, and her eyes glazed over a bit. Perhaps I'm pushing things...

I'm sure Julia Roberts wouldn't push things. I'll have to consult her when she comes for filming.

345 sanfranciscozionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:14:58am

re: #343 Pass The Moonbaticide


Is that all ? Sheesh, You should try living in Britain !
/ You will be, shortly, if BHO has his way.

I used to for a time.

346 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:15:29am

Maybe Orlando will not be as bad as I feared.

Orlando 'Tea Party' rally draws more than 4,000

347 freetoken  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:15:41am

re: #317 redc1c4

it tastes funny.... what did you do to it?

You just need your fruit with the proper scenery.

348 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:15:48am

re: #340 Pass The Moonbaticide


I wonder if his Bowling is improving ?
/He's a total ass without his autocue (what we call a Teleprompter)

Just "punch-drunk" won't do it. He'd have to turn Bowling Green!

349 sanfranciscozionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:16:41am

re: #344 foxtrotter

Well, she's only 6, but I like to plan ahead. We've already covered the basics in ancient history up to the fall of Rome and I'm skipping ahead to American history for a bit because we plan on going to Jamestown/Williamsburg/Gettysburg this summer and I would like her to have at least some knowledge of American history before we go so that she has some idea what's going on.

After this summer I will jump back to medieval times and hope that I haven't messed things up too badly. She's a smart kid though and I think she'll be okay, but I know I've always had a hard time keeping historical events in chronological order so, well, we'll see.

I was telling her about Ponce de Leon today though, and her eyes glazed over a bit. Perhaps I'm pushing things...

I'm sure Julia Roberts wouldn't push things. I'll have to consult her when she comes for filming.

You have time...

Suggest having her keep a timeline, those help, and can be fun to put up.

350 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:17:12am

re: #334 littleoldlady

It's for your own good...

HAH!

351 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:18:12am

re: #345 sanfranciscozionist
I admit I would get out too if I had the financial means.
Every time I watch one of these 'Patriots moving abroad' sort of programmes I always say to myself that they should not be allowed to emigrate if they voted Labour at the last election.
"That's Right ... Leave us to the crap you voted for"

352 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:18:57am

re: #339 littleoldlady

Again with the bananas!

/Variation on a Theme

;-)

Speaking of which, did you ever wonder what it would be like if fruitcup could sing? And if they could sing, what would fruitcup sing about?
;)

353 sanfranciscozionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:19:53am

re: #351 Pass The Moonbaticide


I admit I would get out too if I had the financial means.
Every time I watch one of these 'Patriots moving abroad' sort of programmes I always say to myself that they should not be allowed to emigrate if they voted Labour at the last election.
"That's Right ... Leave us to the crap you voted for"

Well, I was a student, I never meant to stay in Britain. I have to confess, I have a fantasy of someday being very wealthy and having a summer place in Ireland. My husband, however, went and fell in love with York.

354 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:19:59am

Before I go...

/my kid is back at school - I may ACTUALLY get a semi-productive week in

Does anyone know of a really good reason that I shouldn't go with Allstate for car and homeowners insurance?

/best price

355 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:21:28am

re: #354 littleoldlady

Before I go...

/my kid is back at school - I may ACTUALLY get a semi-productive week in

Does anyone know of a really good reason that I shouldn't go with Allstate for car and homeowners insurance?

/best price

Not really. It sounds like you're in good hands.

356 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:21:32am

re: #353 sanfranciscozionist
Ireland's gone downhill since they let Dem Senators buy palatial estates there.
Barney Frank, wasn't it ?

357 sanfranciscozionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:22:08am

re: #356 Pass The Moonbaticide


Ireland's gone downhill since they let Dem Senators buy palatial estates there.
Barney Frank, wasn't it ?

Barney Frank has singlehandedly led to the downfall of Ireland?

358 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:22:10am

re: #349 sanfranciscozionist

You have time...

Suggest having her keep a timeline, those help, and can be fun to put up.

I think that's a great idea and will probably do that.

(And it will probably help me as well.)

359 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:22:21am

re: #354 littleoldlady

I've used them for car insurance since about 1977-and have had good service. Couldn't say regarding home insurance.....

360 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:24:10am

re: #355 gmsc

re: #359 Pietr

Denks U! :-)

Good day, ALL!™

361 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:25:00am

re: #354 littleoldlady
Aren't you insured with AIG already ?.
/Already paid the premiums many times over.

362 foxtrotter  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:25:07am

re: #354 littleoldlady

Before I go...

/my kid is back at school - I may ACTUALLY get a semi-productive week in

Does anyone know of a really good reason that I shouldn't go with Allstate for car and homeowners insurance?

/best price

We have Allstate for car and renter's insurance and have never had any problems (12+ years). I would recommend them with no reservations.

363 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:25:24am

re: #354 littleoldlady

I had them in the early 90's, despite being married, no tickets, and over 25, my rates went up constantly. YMMV.

364 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:25:38am

re: #354 littleoldlady

Before I go...

/my kid is back at school - I may ACTUALLY get a semi-productive week in

Does anyone know of a really good reason that I shouldn't go with Allstate for car and homeowners insurance?

/best price

they aren't the lowest here in the PRC, but that has no bearing on reality elsewhere.

365 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:26:39am

re: #357 sanfranciscozionist
Not yet, but I gather some Leading Dem Senator recently bought a Ten-Acre Estate in Ireland.
/ Oh, compassion for the poor ...

366 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:29:17am

Oh oh. Am I too late for fruitcup? I ran as fast as I could.

367 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:29:45am

re: #363 rightside

I heard that about them - years ago.

/hoping it changed...

368 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:29:59am

re: #366 UncleRancher

Oh oh. Am I too late for fruitcup? I ran as fast as I could.

there's always lots to go 'round........

369 pass the moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:31:22am

re: #366 UncleRancher
LoL has put another batch on just for you./The service we have come to expect from the USA.

370 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:31:28am

re: #368 redc1c4

there's always lots to go 'round........

Great! I've been waiting all day.

371 gmsc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:32:34am

Well, good night, all!

372 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:33:11am

re: #370 UncleRancher

Great! I've been waiting all day.

next time, check the fridge.... it's always stocked, and all you need is your LoL assigned LNDT PIN to get in......

/white smoke

373 pass the moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:33:45am

re: #371 gmsc
Good Night ? It's 9:30 AM.
/ The world isn't a circle, is it ?

374 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:34:21am

Insurance? An adjuster I know very well recommended AIG private client group to me last year. Said they always pay their claims, no questions asked. N0 problem. Well, it looks like maybe it was a problem.

375 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:35:48am

If ever the Time should come, when vain & aspiring Men shall possess the highest Seats in Government, our Country will stand in Need of its experienced Patriots to prevent its Ruin." - Letter to James Warren, October 24, 1780

i believe we are there........

376 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:36:48am

re: #374 UncleRancher

Insurance? An adjuster I know very well recommended AIG private client group to me last year. Said they always pay their claims, no questions asked. N0 problem. Well, it looks like maybe it was a problem.

the only problem is that Congress won't let them pay out the money.....

377 sanfranciscozionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:37:21am

re: #373 pass the moonbaticide


Good Night ? It's 9:30 AM.
/ The world isn't a circle, is it ?

It's two thirty in the morning over thisaway.

Good thing I took a long nap this afternoon, because I am pulling a true all-nighter.

378 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:37:35am

Well it's time I Pietr'd out.....L8trs.....may the day bring you pleasant surprises....

379 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:38:00am

It's 237A here.

380 pass the moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:38:57am

Gah ...
Twice in the last five minutes my 'Auto' comments feature froze and just keeps turning over in the little circle thing. When I come back in to LGF it hasn't remembered me and I have had to reenter my login detail.
Anyone else having that trouble ?

381 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:40:36am

re: #380 pass the moonbaticide

Gah ...
Twice in the last five minutes my 'Auto' comments feature froze and just keeps turning over in the little circle thing. When I come back in to LGF it hasn't remembered me and I have had to reenter my login detail.
Anyone else having that trouble ?

Yes, last night that happened to me too. Then the page would not reload. Did not need to log in again, however.

382 sanfranciscozionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:40:47am

re: #380 pass the moonbaticide

Gah ...
Twice in the last five minutes my 'Auto' comments feature froze and just keeps turning over in the little circle thing. When I come back in to LGF it hasn't remembered me and I have had to reenter my login detail.
Anyone else having that trouble ?

Once earlier this evening.

383 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:41:25am

Well, I'm getting ready to sack out. One more brief flurry of work, then it's bedtime. Night, all.

384 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:41:35am

re: #380 pass the moonbaticide

May need a reboot, if it's PC related. Otherwise, it is probably a glitch in sync between your ISP and the board-BTDT.....

385 sanfranciscozionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:41:37am

OK, I've got enter a load of grades.

Heading out.

Good night all.

386 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:43:07am

re: #385 sanfranciscozionist

Me too. I just dropped in for fruitcup. Thank you Lol, it was delicious.

387 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:45:43am

... and that was the third time.
Reckon I'll restart my Laptop.
Back shortly
/Takes advantage of break to go make a cup of tea for intravenous transfusion.

388 Pietr  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:50:09am

Well, as I said before-I been Pietr in, and now I'm Pietr'd out....and remember...

Law #2

389 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:55:07am

"The problem with socialism, is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money"

-Margaret Thatcher

390 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:56:22am

re: #387 Pass The Moonbaticide

... and that was the third time.
Reckon I'll restart my Laptop.
Back shortly
/Takes advantage of break to go make a cup of tea for intravenous transfusion.

It's happening to me too - I've restarted the laptop twice - spinning circle so I'll see how this post goes :-)

391 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 2:57:02am

re: #388 Pietr
It's about time you got yourself an avatar ...

392 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:08:08am

I am all good here. Anyone still around?

393 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:09:09am

re: #392 Erik The Red
I am ... I think .

394 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:09:52am

Inequities in socialized health care

Healthcare, banks, schools, businesses... the local govt. trying to tell the catholic church in the northeast how to reorganize their structure.

Will we recognize America by the end of his first term?

395 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:11:51am

re: #394 rightside
They're always telling us that Faith doesn't belong in the classroom, but they can't help but interfere in matters of Faith in a Faith environment.

396 Ateam  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:17:07am

re: #218 Pietr

re: #239 Pietr

re: #265 Pietr

re: #280 Pietr

LOL as i never cried in my life...
Unbelievable joy.

397 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:21:13am

Good morning, Lizards.

398 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:22:36am

Good morning {goddess}.

399 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:22:49am

re: #397 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

{goddess}

400 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:28:41am

{Blue Canuck}
{Erik The Red}

401 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:32:28am

re: #397 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

402 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:33:54am

re: #401 rightside

{goddess}

{rightside}!

403 SurferDoc  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:38:52am

Good morning, Lizards!

I was reading the thread to catch up and when I refreshed, the whole thing crashed. Anyone else get that?

404 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:41:21am

re: #403 SurferDoc


Morning, not I. Others were reporting some odd errors though.

405 yochanan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:42:18am

re: #396 Ateam

thanks for both of you ateam if you hadn't put the link in i would have missed the jokes as well as a thank you to the joke teller,

only problem is my laughter woke up my sleeping wife.

406 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:42:37am

re: #394 rightside

Inequities in socialized health care

Healthcare, banks, schools, businesses... the local govt. trying to tell the catholic church in the northeast how to reorganize their structure.

Will we recognize America by the end of his first term 100 days?

things are changin fast ,, and NOT for the better!

407 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:48:03am
408 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:49:56am

re: #407 NYCHardhat

Obama: US must have "exit strategy" in Afghanistan.

1) kill the bad guys
2) help satbilize the gov't, not just in Kabul but the regional ones as well
3) repeat as needed ,, where needed

409 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:50:18am

re: #408 sattv4u2

1) kill the bad guys
2) help satbilize the gov't, not just in Kabul but the regional ones as well
3) leave
4) repeat as needed ,, where needed

410 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:52:39am

Obama’s Amateur Hour On Sixty Minutes

That tendency was on display in his Sixty Minutes interview, a ‘grilling’ which would be considered a softball interview for a Republican (”Wow, that’s a great swingset for your kids to play on. How are they liking the White House so far?”) but was still probably tougher than any interrogation Obama has received since he entered the White House. (After all, he even admitted that he gets lost in the White House “repeatedly.”)

Each time Obama got a tough question, he did what sociopathic politicians have doing for decades: he lied, dodged, and talked out of both sides of his mouth. The best example of that was near the beginning of the interview when Steve Kroft asked Obama about the AIG bonuses.

411 yesandno  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:53:34am

re: #292 rightside

I hope every incumbent is turned out of office in '10

Now that's change you can hope for!

412 yesandno  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:56:35am

re: #410 Erik The Red

Obama’s Amateur Hour On Sixty Minutes

That tendency was on display in his Sixty Minutes interview, a ‘grilling’ which would be considered a softball interview for a Republican (”Wow, that’s a great swingset for your kids to play on. How are they liking the White House so far?”) but was still probably tougher than any interrogation Obama has received since he entered the White House. (After all, he even admitted that he gets lost in the White House “repeatedly.”)

Each time Obama got a tough question, he did what sociopathic politicians have doing for decades: he lied, dodged, and talked out of both sides of his mouth. The best example of that was near the beginning of the interview when Steve Kroft asked Obama about the AIG bonuses.

A recap of Chuckles, the Unpresidential...a legend in his own mind.

413 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:56:40am

re: #411 yesandno

Now that's change you can hope for!

Problem is, most people think "their guy" is okay, it's all the other congesscritters that need to go.

414 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 3:58:06am

January 20th, 2013
Change we can believe in!

415 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:00:41am

I've got to get ready for school--have a great day!

416 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:01:34am

I think this is exactly what the country needed. Obama gets elected and he overplays his hand in the socializing of the US of A. He flies too close to the sun and burns up. Hell, he will become a lame duck within a year if his own kind in Congress start to thwart his every move. I see it happening, I feel it in the air. We must see the face of the enemy at our door before we can find our soul again. Ok... I will quit being so positive this early in the morning. Any thoughts on this matter?

417 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:08:09am

re: #416 NYCHardhat

I think you're being overly optimistic with he overplays his hand in the socializing of the US of A.

He is BUYING votes here. There are MILLIONS of people that will benefit at the steps of the public dole. There are millions more that will now have gov't jobs created from all these new programs. All of them will 'owe" the dems votes down the road.

Thats not even counting the millions of illegal aliens that will owe the dems for amnesty.

Lastly, he's playing the rich v poor card with the AIG bonus issue. The great majority of sheeple in this country are NOT "rich", so for many of them it "feels good" that someone (i.e. the gov't) is "geeting those guys"

sorry ,,, rant off

418 yesandno  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:09:23am

re: #416 NYCHardhat

I think this is exactly what the country needed. Obama gets elected and he overplays his hand in the socializing of the US of A. He flies too close to the sun and burns up. Hell, he will become a lame duck within a year if his own kind in Congress start to thwart his every move. I see it happening, I feel it in the air. We must see the face of the enemy at our door before we can find our soul again. Ok... I will quit being so positive this early in the morning. Any thoughts on this matter?

E-I-E-I-O

Economically illiterate egotistical idiot Obama.............headed for the farm sooner rather then later.

Can't wait to see the library....will look like the hall of mirrors.

419 3 wood  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:12:20am

Good morning.

The market futures are up sharply, as is the Nikkei and Hang Seng. This is due to the fact that Geithner finally came out of his coma and actually made a decision. His "bank fix" is dependent upon private capital coming in and buying up some of these toxic assets. The problem is, we still do not have a workable way to price these assets, so I really doubt that there will be much interest. Oh, some might buy a few at a sacrificial price of 20 cents on the dollar, but at that price these banks are insolvent anyway

Look for the market to jump, and then for the short sellers to absolutely hammer the market in a big "bear raid" later this week, making their money before the uptick rule is reinstalled and the naked short selling rule is enforced.

420 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:14:05am

re: #419 3 wood

Good morning.

The market futures are up sharply, as is the Nikkei and Hang Seng. This is due to the fact that Geithner finally came out of his coma and actually made a decision. His "bank fix" is dependent upon private capital coming in and buying up some of these toxic assets. The problem is, we still do not have a workable way to price these assets, so I really doubt that there will be much interest. Oh, some might buy a few at a sacrificial price of 20 cents on the dollar, but at that price these banks are insolvent anyway

Look for the market to jump, and then for the short sellers to absolutely hammer the market in a big "bear raid" later this week, making their money before the uptick rule is reinstalled and the naked short selling rule is enforced.

No private firm will get into bed with the government after this AIG fiasco. Obama shanked the T- off.

421 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:14:11am

re: #418 yesandno

E-I-E-I-O

Economically illiterate egotistical idiot Obama.............headed for the farm sooner rather then later.

Can't wait to see the library....will look like the hall of mirrors.

Will it be built in Chicago, Hawaii, or Indonesia!?!?!?!

422 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:22:19am

Good Morning Lizards!

Sweet! There is an auto option for new comments now! Way to go Charles!

423 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:22:46am

re: #419 3 wood

Good morning.

The market futures are up sharply, as is the Nikkei and Hang Seng. This is due to the fact that Geithner finally came out of his coma and actually made a decision. His "bank fix" is dependent upon private capital coming in and buying up some of these toxic assets. The problem is, we still do not have a workable way to price these assets, so I really doubt that there will be much interest. Oh, some might buy a few at a sacrificial price of 20 cents on the dollar, but at that price these banks are insolvent anyway

Look for the market to jump, and then for the short sellers to absolutely hammer the market in a big "bear raid" later this week, making their money before the uptick rule is reinstalled and the naked short selling rule is enforced.

What about the $1,000,000,000,000.00 buying of bad loans that Fox said will be announced today?

424 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:23:40am

Just got this in an email. Thought it was funny so I will share it with ya'll.

FIFTY DOLLARS

I recently asked my friend's little girl what she wanted to be when she
grows up. She said she wanted to be President some day.

Both of her parents, liberal Democrats,were standing there, so I asked
her,'If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?'
She replied, 'I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people.'

Her parents beamed.

'Wow! What a worthy goal.' I told her, 'But you don't have to wait until
you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the
lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll
take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and
you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house.'

She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in
the eye and asked, 'Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the
work, and you can just pay him the $50?'

I said, 'Welcome to the Republican Party.'

Her parents still aren't speaking to me.

425 3 wood  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:24:17am

Ooops, Obama is discovering that there is this inconvenient truth known as the Constitution that is getting is his way of marching us into becoming the Soviet Union:
Administration: Changes May be Needed in 90-Percent Tax on AIG Bonuses

White House economic advisers said Sunday that President Obama won't "govern out of anger" despite calls for the heads of AIG executives who received bonuses, and acknowledged that using tax law to get back $165 million in government-funded bonuses may be "a dangerous way to go."

Those officials said the economy will return to better days soon, but suggested the House-backed plan to tax American International Group Inc. executives' bonuses at a 90-percent rate may have to be modified in the Senate.

"I think the president would be concerned that this bill may have some problems in going too far -- the House bill may go too far in terms of some -- some legal issues, constitutional validity, using the tax code to surgically punish a small group," said Vice President Joe Biden's economic adviser Jared Bernstein said on ABC's "This Week." "That may be a dangerous way to go."

Just give them time, the Constitution will end up in the trash heap along with the economy eventually.

In the meantime, Obama will be identifying his supporting special interest groups as "shovel ready" projects.

426 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:24:23am

re: #424 Ford_Prefect

awesome!

427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:24:52am

Good morning kiddies! Anybody on the morning thread know what ever happened to Lucius Septimus? (think that was it) Anybody remember him?

428 3 wood  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:25:12am

re: #420 NYCHardhat

No private firm will get into bed with the government after this AIG fiasco. Obama shanked the T- off.

Yep, paradox of unintended consequences is a tough way to go, ain't it?

429 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:25:30am

re: #416 NYCHardhat

I think this is exactly what the country needed. Obama gets elected and he overplays his hand in the socializing of the US of A. He flies too close to the sun and burns up. Hell, he will become a lame duck within a year if his own kind in Congress start to thwart his every move. I see it happening, I feel it in the air. We must see the face of the enemy at our door before we can find our soul again. Ok... I will quit being so positive this early in the morning. Any thoughts on this matter?

Please don't ever say this is exactly what America needed, and 0bama gets elected in the same rant again.

430 3 wood  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:27:07am

re: #423 MandyManners

What about the $1,000,000,000,000.00 buying of bad loans that Fox said will be announced today?

That's part of it, but they need private capital to make that work.

Or we can discontinue "mark to market" and cut the problem down to about half a trillion and be done with it.

But that would make too much sense.

431 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:27:27am

re: #425 3 wood

Ooops, Obama is discovering that there is this inconvenient truth known as the Constitution that is getting is his way of marching us into becoming the Soviet Union:
Administration: Changes May be Needed in 90-Percent Tax on AIG Bonuses


Just give them time, the Constitution will end up in the trash heap along with the economy eventually.

In the meantime, Obama will be identifying his supporting special interest groups as "shovel ready" projects.


Wonder how the lefties will spin 0bama's disregard for the Constitution.

432 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:27:52am

re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


No, have you seen vbspurs lately?

433 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:27:52am

Good morning, Lizards.

434 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:29:01am

re: #431 soxfan4life

Wonder how the lefties will spin 0bama's disregard for the Constitution.

The constitution was written by a bunch of slave owners, so why should we want to protect it? /////

About like that, I would say.

435 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:29:07am

re: #433 Chicago Blonde

Morning CB

436 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:29:27am

re: #433 Chicago Blonde

Good morning, Lizards.

Morning Blondie.

437 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:31:14am

Morning, Ford & Rightside.

438 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:31:36am

re: #425 3 wood

Ooops, Obama is discovering that there is this inconvenient truth known as the Constitution that is getting is his way of marching us into becoming the Soviet Union:
Administration: Changes May be Needed in 90-Percent Tax on AIG Bonuses


Just give them time, the Constitution will end up in the trash heap along with the economy eventually.

In the meantime, Obama will be identifying his supporting special interest groups as "shovel ready" projects.

What "blind spot" did the framers have when they wrote the Constitution is he talking about in this bit?

439 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:31:36am

re: #432 rightside

Nah.

440 ilzito guacamolito  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:32:00am

Good morning.
Did the Idiot in Chief actually do that last night?
Zero giggles while Rome burns.

441 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:33:14am

Well I guess I should log off and stop lurking here. Have yourselves a good one lizards, and stay scaly. Cheer up, spring weather is almost here.

442 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:33:20am

re: #440 ilzito guacamolito

Good morning.
Did the Idiot in Chief actually do that last night?
Zero giggles while Rome burns.

I didn't couldn't watch that last night. What happened?

443 The Other Les  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:33:23am

Idea for bumper sticker:

CHICAGO IS SHORT A VILLAGE IDIOT

Let's just say that I got a little tired of seeing those "Village in Texas" stickers during the Bush Administration.

444 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:33:27am

re: #424 Ford_Prefect

That was great.

445 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:33:36am

re: #430 3 wood

That's part of it, but they need private capital to make that work.

Or we can discontinue "mark to market" and cut the problem down to about half a trillion and be done with it.

But that would make too much sense.

NYCHardhat suggested in No. 420 that, after what happened to AIG, people with private money will shy away. Your thoughts?

446 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:34:49am

re: #440 ilzito guacamolito

Good morning.
Did the Idiot in Chief actually do that last night?
Zero giggles while Rome burns.

Avanti suggested it was actually good for FCBBHO. (See his comment at the top of the Bottom Comments.)

447 ilzito guacamolito  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:34:56am

re: #442 Ford_Prefect

I didn't couldn't watch that last night. What happened?

Just refering to the laughter while discussing the economy. I haven't watched 60 minutes in years.

448 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:34:56am

re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good morning kiddies! Anybody on the morning thread know what ever happened to Lucius Septimus? (think that was it) Anybody remember him?


I do. He is (was?) in or around Atlanta GA, just as I am. He was supposed to get in touch with me months ago for a meet and greet, but I forgot all about it and haven't heard from him. Next time "Dopplegang-----" (something like that) is here ask her. She's the one that organized the Atlanta get togethers and probably knows his e-mail addy

If you get in touch with him, tell him i'm still waiting for lunch!

449 gregg  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:35:04am

On Geithner's toxic asset plan.

Yves Smith over at Naked Capitalism is not impressed:

If this isn't Newspeak, I don't know what is. Since when is someone who puts 3% of total funds and gets 20% of the equity a "partner"?

And notice the utter dishonesty: a competitive bidding process will protect taxpayers. Huh? A competitive bidding process will elicit a higher price which is BAD for taxpayers!

Dear God, the Administration really thinks the public is full of idiots. But there are so many components to the program, and a lot of moving parts in each, they no doubt expect everyone's eyes to glaze over.

MISH'S Global Economic Trend Analysis take on the Geithener plan:

This is similar in nature to fraudulent schemes that promise "what's inside the bag is worth $1 million, unless you open the bag".

In this case there may be a few "good bags" similar in nature to salting the mine schemes, but for the most part everyone knows what's in the bag is toxic garbage. What really makes no sense whatsoever is why the government would risk 97% with shared "upside" instead of just buying it all.

Somehow, Geithner (and Obama by implication) believes that igniting a bidding war between hedge funds and private equity over a bag of cow manure will inspire confidence that there's gold in the bag. Such insanity cannot possibly work, which means it won't.

450 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:35:36am

re: #446 MandyManners

I think they meant FCBBHO, but when I first saw it, I was thinking avanti too!

451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:35:59am

re: #448 sattv4u2

Hey sat! I'm coming to ATL next week!

452 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:36:08am
453 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:36:58am

re: #451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey sat! I'm coming to ATL next week!

I'll alert the media !

Kidding aside,, when , for what ,, where are you staying ,,,, how long ,,, don;t steal the towels ,,,,

454 gregg  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:38:00am

re: #390 aussiemagpie

It's happening to me too - I've restarted the laptop twice - spinning circle so I'll see how this post goes :-)

Do you think that has something to do with PM Rudd tracking your messages? ;-)

455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:38:46am

re: #453 sattv4u2

I'll alert the media !

Thanks, Hobson.

For work, I'm gonna be training some folks to be as mediocre as I am.

I'll know more details. We'll have lunch er something. I hope.

456 ilzito guacamolito  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:41:15am

re: #446 MandyManners

Avanti suggested it was actually good for FCBBHO. (See his comment at the top of the Bottom Comments.)

I just read it. It is truly sad that there are so many delusional people walking freeely among us. They really should be institutionalized.
BTW, I laugh myself silly every time you write FCBBHO.

457 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:41:36am

re: #447 ilzito guacamolito

Just refering to the laughter while discussing the economy. I haven't watched 60 minutes in years.

I just peeked at that thread about the laughter.
I feel sick.

458 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:41:42am

re: #455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks, Hobson.

For work, I'm gonna be training some folks to be as mediocre as I am.

I'll know more details. We'll have lunch er something. I hope.

c'mon ,, it takes years of complacency to be as average as you are. No way you can teach that in mere days!

Sounds great,,, let me know when and where you're staying. Have your people get in touch with my people and I'll see if I can squeeze you into my hectic social schedule, between all the premiers, cocktail parties, and black tie events

459 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:41:44am

re: #450 rightside

I think they meant FCBBHO, but when I first saw it, I was thinking avanti too!

I'm confused.

460 Dar ul Harbarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:41:49am

Can you believe this shit?!

I still haven't found a primary source on this, but it looks like The Obama has just pissed off Sarkozy by writing a letter of praise to Chirac hoping they can work together over the next four years.

I suggest that "Smart-Diplomacy" now be renamed "Special Olympics-Diplomacy"

461 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:41:55am

I think this article states the problems with the whole AIG 90% tax thing rather succinctly.

A Chilling Harbinger: Confiscation as Taxation

*snips

Congress' lopsided vote on Thursday to tax AIG executives' bonuses at no less than 90%, and to apply the same to other bailout recipients, undermines Constitutional and contract law and is a clear abuse of power. Americans who applaud this act may want to think twice. If Congress is willing to break the law to confiscate these executives' bonuses, what will stop it from extending legislation to those who receive no government bailout money?

Charles Krauthammer writes:

"[T]here is such a thing as law. The way to break a contract legally is Chapter 11. Short of that, a contract is a contract. The AIG bonuses were agreed to before the government takeover and are perfectly legal. Is the rule now that when public anger is kindled, Congress will summarily cancel contracts?

"Even worse are the clever schemes being cooked up in Congress to retrieve the money by means of some retroactive confiscatory tax. The common law is pretty clear about the impermissibility of ex post facto legislation and bills of attainder. They also happen to be specifically prohibited by the Constitution."

For those who say that the logic here is stretched or tortured, the response is simple: Why do you think that Washington politicians are governed by logic or sensibility? Much less fairness or right? As the Founders might comment from their heavenly perches, politicians are inflamed by passions, full of self-interest and mean in virtues. They are as flawed as any of us, with the caveat that they have the power to overreach and abridge our rights. The last one hundred years of national government history bolster the argument. It is the Constitution that has been stretched and tortured.

462 3 wood  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:42:21am

re: #445 MandyManners

NYCHardhat suggested in No. 420 that, after what happened to AIG, people with private money will shy away. Your thoughts?

That is probably the case. Why get involved with these jerks, and then if you make a dollar out of it you get lynched in public by Barney Frank? You can't trust these guys.

What got missed in most of these "retention bonuses" is that it was compensation to laid off employees for winding down their portfolio's in an orderly manner, rather than just walk out the door and let the portfolios implode.

This is a case of class warfare at the heart of it.

463 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:42:33am

re: #459 MandyManners

I'm confused.

You don;'t have to tell us that daily! We still wuv ya !

464 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:43:11am

re: #459 MandyManners


When I saw that "Idiot in Chief" I read it as "Idiot Chief".... avanti was a chief in the Navy, so I quickly thought they were talking directly about avanti.

I realized I should have explained that to begin with. Not everyone familiar with ranks and such.

465 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:43:15am

re: #456 ilzito guacamolito

I just read it. It is truly sad that there are so many delusional people walking freeely among us. They really should be institutionalized.
BTW, I laugh myself silly every time you write FCBBHO.

You're allowed to laugh. You're not the president and this isn't 60 Minutes.

466 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:43:34am

re: #457 Chicago Blonde

I just peeked at that thread about the laughter.
I feel sick.

I missed that. Where is it?

467 ilzito guacamolito  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:43:46am

re: #459 MandyManners

I'm confused.


I don't get it either. Either it is too early or I am stuck in a David Lynch picture.

468 3 wood  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:44:04am

re: #456 ilzito guacamolito

I just read it. It is truly sad that there are so many delusional people walking freeely among us. They really should be institutionalized.
BTW, I laugh myself silly every time you write FCBBHO.

I think "Avanti" is a HuffPo regular who comes over here to jack us around

469 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:45:05am
470 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:45:16am

re: #462 3 wood

That is probably the case. Why get involved with these jerks, and then if you make a dollar out of it you get lynched in public by Barney Frank? You can't trust these guys.

What got missed in most of these "retention bonuses" is that it was compensation to laid off employees for winding down their portfolio's in an orderly manner, rather than just walk out the door and let the portfolios implode.

This is a case of class warfare at the heart of it.

I can't recall if you posted on that thread but, did you read about the WFP and ACORN taking folks on bus tours to the neighborhoods in which the AIG executives live?

471 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:45:42am

re: #460 Dar ul Harbarian

That can not possibly have really happened. No possible. No way. Inconceivable. To large of a gaffe to be real. I don't believe it. There is no way that a State Department could let something like that happen.

(if I keep denying it, that makes it impossible, right?)

472 3 wood  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:46:04am

Got to go to work so Obama's special interest groups don't have to.

Later.

473 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:46:11am

re: #466 Ford_Prefect

Last night's thread about BHO on 60 Minutes, laughing during the discussion of the economy.

I didn't watch this - for anyone that did, was it nervous laughter? Thought the whole thing was funny? Neither is good but I'd like to know the context & what we're up against.

474 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:46:12am

I'm gonna' get some coffee. And, I'm gonna' take my time. No schedule today!

475 3 wood  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:46:40am

re: #470 MandyManners

I can't recall if you posted on that thread but, did you read about the WFP and ACORN taking folks on bus tours to the neighborhoods in which the AIG executives live?

Actually, the bus was all ACORN and MSM.

476 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:46:58am

re: #474 MandyManners

I'm gonna' get some coffee. And, I'm gonna' take my time. No schedule today!

Woo hoo! :)

477 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:49:10am

re: #460 Dar ul Harbarian

Can you believe this shit?!

I still haven't found a primary source on this, but it looks like The Obama has just pissed off Sarkozy by writing a letter of praise to Chirac hoping they can work together over the next four years.

I suggest that "Smart-Diplomacy" now be renamed "Special Olympics-Diplomacy"

Oh come on. That can't be.

Can it?

478 razorbacker  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:50:34am

I'm going to have to put my anger over the direction my country is headed on the back burner in order to move other matters to the front.

My great-aunt's doctor decided that she probably needed blood thinners, in addition to the daily aspirin that he had previously recommended. Evidently they need to work on the proper doseage, because my brother discovered her collapsed on her bedroom floor; when he got life-flight there they stabilized her and got her to a hospital. She had severe internal bleeding.

They got her stabilized and all, but as she told me late last night, "I think I was doing better last year before I started taking any pills." So, when the sun comes up, I'm headed down south to visit her.

Other than that, what's up?

479 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:50:38am

re: #477 Bloodnok

I find it very hard to believe. There are too many channels for something like that to go through without someone noticing it.

480 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:50:49am

re: #475 3 wood

Actually, the bus was all ACORN and MSM.

I misssed the MFM coverage.

481 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:51:21am

re: #457 Chicago Blonde

I just peeked at that thread about the laughter.
I feel sick.

I do, too.

Every time I think he can't sink any lower, he does.

If he laughs like a fool on 60 Minutes, no wonder he sees no problem in throwing lavish parties every Wednesday night on the public's dime.

482 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:51:51am

re: #478 razorbacker

Wow. Good luck with that. You will be in our thoughts.

483 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:52:53am

re: #476 Chicago Blonde

Woo hoo! :)

I kept on rousing myself last night as I drifted off to sleep, thinking I needed to go tuck in The Kid. This morning, I kept my TV volume down so that I wouldn't wake him. A few times I swung my chair around to get up to go wake him up.

484 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:53:51am

re: #478 razorbacker

Why doesn't the doctor keep her in the hospital until her dosage is figured out?

485 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:54:09am

re: #483 MandyManners

I kept on rousing myself last night as I drifted off to sleep, thinking I needed to go tuck in The Kid. This morning, I kept my TV volume down so that I wouldn't wake him. A few times I swung my chair around to get up to go wake him up.

Is the Yorkie feeling any better?

486 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:54:41am

re: #478 razorbacker

((((Razorbacker)))
I'm sorry.
I pray for health for your great-aunt and a safe trip for you.

487 razorbacker  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:54:55am

re: #482 Ford_Prefect

Wow. Good luck with that. You will be in our thoughts.

Thanks. She's a tough old broad, she'll be okay, I bet. Has enjoyed marvelous health all her life. Even found the fountain of youth.

Well, when I met my wife my great-aunt and my future mother-in-law were the same age. Thirty five years later my great-aunt was seven years younger that the MIL. Who among us can do better?

488 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:55:36am

re: #460 Dar ul Harbarian

Any one fluent in fwench? I see the link to lemonde, but I can't believe that's possible..

wtf is he thinking?

489 razorbacker  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:55:36am

re: #484 MandyManners

Why doesn't the doctor keep her in the hospital until her dosage is figured out?

They figured out that she doesn't need blood thinners. The aspirin was enough, maybe too much.

490 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:57:45am

re: #487 razorbacker

LOL. I want some of what she has been drinking.

491 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:57:47am

Obama Budget to Change American Way of Living - Rangel Strongly Supports It.

Can we start-off by changing Rangel’s way of living and running the SoB off? Like yesterday?

Mornin folks, another vunderbar day in the USSA.

492 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:58:32am

re: #485 Bloodnok

Is the Yorkie feeling any better?

Marginally. I gave her The Kid's blankey yesterday and she's toting that thing everywhere. When my sister gets off work tonight, he and my dad will go to her place so that I can talk to him on her WebCam. Our dog will enjoy that.

493 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:58:43am

re: #460 Dar ul Harbarian

Can you believe this shit?!

I still haven't found a primary source on this, but it looks like The Obama has just pissed off Sarkozy by writing a letter of praise to Chirac hoping they can work together over the next four years.

I suggest that "Smart-Diplomacy" now be renamed "Special Olympics-Diplomacy"

Mostly I'm seeing this around the right blogosphere, but then (via Digg, of all places) I found a link to a very brief story (in French) in Le Figaro, dated March 19th. I don't know anything about Le Figaro, though.

494 razorbacker  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:58:44am

Anyway, she said that she hopes to be released today (I'll bet that she isn't) but said that she doesn't know what the doctors are saying and wished that I'd come down and ask them what's going on and translate from doctorese into southeast Arkansasese.

495 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:59:13am

re: #489 razorbacker

They figured out that she doesn't need blood thinners. The aspirin was enough, maybe too much.

No doubt.

496 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 4:59:47am

re: #491 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Obama Budget to Change American Way of Living - Rangel Strongly Supports It.


[Video]

Can we start-off by changing Rangel’s way of living and running the SoB off? Like yesterday?

Mornin folks, another vunderbar day in the USSA.

Yeah, you first, Charlie.

497 yesandno  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:00:19am

re: #431 soxfan4life

Wonder how the lefties will spin 0bama's disregard for the Constitution.

Hey, if he didn't write it, it doesn't count...

498 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:01:28am

re: #488 rightside

Any one fluent in fwench? I see the link to lemonde, but I can't believe that's possible..

wtf is he thinking?

Doesn't Babel Fish have a way to translate it?

499 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:01:29am

re: #497 yesandno

Hey, if he didn't write it, it doesn't count...

they're re-writing it now ,, does that count

500 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:01:42am

Hey, let's install an Afghan PM.

501 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:02:35am

re: #497 yesandno

Hey, if he didn't write it, it doesn't count...

I figured in typical 0bama fashion they would just blame President Bush.

502 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:02:47am

re: #498 MandyManners

I think so, but it's not very good at it. I'd rather trust a fluent lizard.

503 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:03:02am

re: #494 razorbacker

translate from doctorese into southeast Arkansasese.

Is that possible? //

504 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:03:44am

re: #491 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

You know Aboo, I can't let that go. He wants US to change OUR way of life? After telling a reporter to mind their own g-d-****** business for questioning him?

This needs to be shared with everyone we can.

505 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:04:08am

I am loving this auto new comments thing. When did that happen?

506 yesandno  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:04:28am

re: #501 soxfan4life

I figured in typical 0bama fashion they would just blame President Bush.

That's true.....

But it seems like eons since we had a President that was Presidential....and it was only a couple of months ago....

I really miss him.......

507 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:04:54am

re: #488 rightside

Any one fluent in fwench? I see the link to lemonde, but I can't believe that's possible..

wtf is he thinking?

Le Monde English version.

508 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:05:14am

re: #505 Ford_Prefect

I am loving this auto new comments thing. When did that happen?

been there since day one!

(oh ,, umm,, what Charles? You mean people like Ford don;'t get all the bells and whistles ,,, oh ,, okay ,, I won't tell him about the rest of them! )

509 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:06:03am

re: #491 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Wish I could see that at work. He came out sometime last week, I believe it was, and was questioning the ability of the govt. to use tax law to target individuals. Then pelosi called him into her office, and he valued his chairmanship of the ways and means committee too much, and promptly fell back in line with madame speaker.

510 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:07:59am

re: #508 sattv4u2

been there since day one!

(oh ,, umm,, what Charles? You mean people like Ford don;'t get all the bells and whistles ,,, oh ,, okay ,, I won't tell him about the rest of them! )

Hey! I want bells! I want Whistles! I pay good money for this site and I want what is coming to me!

What?....

I don't pay for this?....

I get all this for free?....

Man, what is Charles thinking?

511 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:08:21am

re: #504 Chicago Blonde

You know Aboo, I can't let that go. He wants US to change OUR way of life? After telling a reporter to mind their own g-d-****** business for questioning him?

This needs to be shared with everyone we can.

He's working on one hell of a legacy. I heard on the Sunday news shows 0bama's people were talking about how we might only have 1 car in the yard and things like that. The One who brought down our standard of living. And his supporters ty and tell us it is a good thing.

512 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:08:47am

re: #507 MandyManners


hmm, searching for obama on that site yields nothing. Could be a delay between those two places.

Thanks though.

513 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:09:02am

re: #473 Chicago Blonde

Last night's thread about BHO on 60 Minutes, laughing during the discussion of the economy.

I didn't watch this - for anyone that did, was it nervous laughter? Thought the whole thing was funny? Neither is good but I'd like to know the context & what we're up against.

Good morning . I saw it & his laughter was very inappropriate.
Hard to tell if it was nervous laughter or not.
My interpretation was that he really doesn't give a damn about it as long as he gets face time, but then I don't like him.

514 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:09:40am

FCCBHO wants to pass laws that don't target a small group so, does that mean he's gonna' go after EVERYONE who gets a bonus?

515 razorbacker  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:09:50am

re: #503 Ford_Prefect

Is that possible? //

I'll take the laptop and try babelfish on them.

Sun's up. I'm gone.

If you see someone that you love today, tell them about it. Might just make their day.

516 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:10:26am

re: #509 rightside

Condensed transcrript: Rangel agrees the only way we can get out of the economic mess is for Americans to change our way of living. It's the direction we're being moved in and he strongly supports it.

/Note that I don't think he includes himself in steerage with us.

517 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:10:44am

re: #514 MandyManners

FCCBHO wants to pass laws that don't target a small group so, does that mean he's gonna' go after EVERYONE who gets a bonus?

More like everyone who gets a paycheck.

518 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:10:51am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!

Lovely warm autumn night here, and the auto feature is working again for me, LGF crashed before and I'm blaming the auto thingy :-)

re: #454 gregg

Do you think that has something to do with PM Rudd tracking your messages? ;-)

LOL! Mmm.....maybe you're right! Of course he's on his way to visit is new best friend your President...so it must be one of his spies

519 yochanan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:11:45am

[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]

this is a good read

520 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:12:13am

re: #488 rightside

Any one fluent in fwench? I see the link to lemonde, but I can't believe that's possible..

wtf is he thinking?

I can read French pretty well. I found the source article in Le Figaro. I don't see any mention of it infuriating Sarkozy, though.

[Link: www.lefigaro.fr...]

521 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:13:25am

re: #504 Chicago Blonde

You know Aboo, I can't let that go. He wants US to change OUR way of life? After telling a reporter to mind their own g-d-****** business for questioning him?

This needs to be shared with everyone we can.

Sure looks like we're at the point of, 'what's mine is mine and what's yours is also mine - don't question our ability, intent or authority. You peasant, get what we dish out - period.'

It's certainly not going down well with me.

522 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:13:28am

re: #511 soxfan4life

He's working on one hell of a legacy. I heard on the Sunday news shows 0bama's people were talking about how we might only have 1 car in the yard and things like that. The One who brought down our standard of living. And his supporters ty and tell us it is a good thing.

One car per family might be doable in places with good masstransit but, folks in many suburbs, ex-urbs and the country cannot get with one car.

But, why in the world are we even thinking about this nonsense?! The government does not have a right to order what we buy or don't buy. The fucking, Commie bastard and his comrades can try to force us through taxation and cap-and-trade.

It's too early in the day to get this riled.

523 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:14:14am

re: #512 rightside

hmm, searching for obama on that site yields nothing. Could be a delay between those two places.

Thanks though.

It seems to be a completely different paper.

524 yesandno  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:14:21am

re: #514 MandyManners

FCCBHO wants to pass laws that don't target a small group so, does that mean he's gonna' go after EVERYONE who gets a bonus?

oooooo-- Does that mean Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick will have to pay back their bonuses as well?

/naw....it only applies to buiness people without political connections.

525 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:14:22am

Things are starting to remind of Russia during the run up tro the Bolshevik Revolution. People are now openly saying that income inequality is unfair & needs to be reformed. There was a Dem pundit on FNC this morning making the case.

526 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:14:27am

re: #516 Chicago Blonde

Thank you for that.

Msg to rangel: F U!

527 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:14:40am
528 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:15:06am

re: #520 Bloodnok

I can read French pretty well. I found the source article in Le Figaro. I don't see any mention of it infuriating Sarkozy, though.

Via BabelFish

Barack Obama wrote in Jacques Chirac The US president comes d' to very address a letter sympathetic nerve to Jacques Chirac, according to l' expression of this last. I am certain that we will be able during the four years to come to collaborate together in a spirit of peace and d' friendship in order to build a surer world, writes the successor of George W. Bush to the predecessor of Nicolas Sarkozy. While evoking the word of peace, Obama pays a homage implicit to l' action of l' former French president who s' was opposed to the war in Iraq. An American intervention against which the future US president s' was opposed as senator, at the time of the vote to the Congress.

529 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:15:26am

re: #513 opnion

Good morning . I saw it & his laughter was very inappropriate.
Hard to tell if it was nervous laughter or not.
My interpretation was that he really doesn't give a damn about it as long as he gets face time, but then I don't like him.

I know nervous laughter, and this was NOT nervous laughter. This came close to derision, to mocking. But, I don't like him, either.

530 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:15:27am

re: #520 Bloodnok

Puts that in the "until further review" category.

Thanks.

531 ilzito guacamolito  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:15:42am

re: #505 Ford_Prefect

I am loving this auto new comments thing. When did that happen?

Here I was thinking that I had been missing this the whole time. Damn! I need more caffeine.

532 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:16:21am

The auto feature is making me seasick :-)

533 The Other Les  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:16:23am

re: #522 MandyManners

They believe that we are no better than dumb animals and they base their theories and policies on that belief. We are livestock to them.

Ideology is the opiate of the ruling class.

534 eon  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:16:50am

re: #488 rightside

Any one fluent in fwench? I see the link to lemonde, but I can't believe that's possible..

wtf is he thinking?

Good morning, Lizards.

My basic ("The One is an idiot") guess is that he didn't bother to check with anyone as to who's President in Paris right now. (Or even Google it- so much for Mr."I Can't Live Without My Blackberry".)

My advanced ("The One is trying to be cunning") guess is that he wants to "work with" Chirac to undermine our foreign policy the same way he wants to "work with" his idol, Rabbit Bait. The endgame being the collapse of Iraq and Afghanistan and the resurgence of a radical Islamist-ruled MidEast- that he will then tell us "not to be afraid of", just as Jimmah tried to "cure" us of our "inordinate fear" of the USSR, and Communism in general.

(We weren't afraid of either one, Jimmah- you were. We just realized that the world wasn't big enough for the two of us, and that to paraphrase Lincoln, a world cannot exist half slave and half free anymore than a nation can. To this day, I'm sure that both Carter and The One deeply resent Reagan.)

Why would he do this? Ultimately, because he is locked into an "America= bad, anyone who hates America= good" mindset, much like Carter's, and born of the same highly unrealistic (in fact, downright bizarre) worldview.

Either way, The One has once more shown that he has no f**king clue of what his job entails.

I'm looking forward to canning his a$$ in 2012, even more keenly than I anticipated doing the same to Rabbit Bait in 1980.

cheers

eon

535 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:16:54am
536 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:16:55am

re: #529 MandyManners

I know nervous laughter, and this was NOT nervous laughter. This came close to derision, to mocking. But, I don't like him, either.

I would have never guessed.

537 apachegunner  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:17:04am

re: #532 aussiemagpie

The auto feature is making me seasick :-)

Its making my leg tingle :>)

538 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:17:06am

re: #532 aussiemagpie

The auto feature is making me seasick :-)

get you and the puter outta the bathtub!

539 Irene NYC  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:17:35am

re: #460 Dar ul Harbarian

Can you believe this shit?!

I still haven't found a primary source on this, but it looks like The Obama has just pissed off Sarkozy by writing a letter of praise to Chirac hoping they can work together over the next four years.

I suggest that "Smart-Diplomacy" now be renamed "Special Olympics-Diplomacy"

The primary source seems to be Le Figaro (Parisian newspaper) and looks legit. The article is dated March 19, 2009:

19/03/2009 %P% Mise à jour : 09:14 %P% Commentaires 84 %P% Ajouter à ma sélection
Retrouvez tous les confidentiels de la rédaction du Figaro.

Barack Obama a écrit à Jacques Chirac

Le président américain vient d'adresser une lettre «très sympathique » à Jacques Chirac, selon l'expression de ce dernier. «Je suis certain que nous pourrons au cours des quatre années à venir collaborer ensemble dans un esprit de paix et d'amitié afin de construire un monde plus sûr» , écrit le successeur de George W. Bush au prédécesseur de Nicolas Sarkozy. En évoquant le mot de « paix», Obama rend un hommage implicite à l'action de l'ancien président français qui s'était opposé à la guerre en Irak. Une intervention américaine contre laquelle le futur président américain s'était opposé comme sénateur, lors du vote au Congrès.

540 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:17:53am
541 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:18:50am

Our PM Kevvie Rudd, AKA KRUDD is on his way over to see President Obama

I'm wondering what lovely gift Kevvie will receive from the US President?

542 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:18:52am

re: #521 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

re: #526 rightside

I think it would be great if everyone in the States sent him (and all other critters) a simple email or letter:

You first.

543 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:19:25am
544 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:19:44am

re: #541 aussiemagpie

A gift certificate for dinner at outback steakhouse, and a 6 pack of Fosters lager.

545 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:19:52am

re: #517 soxfan4life

More like everyone who gets a paycheck.

I don't think so. The group of people who get paychecks is larger than those who don't but, the group of workers who get bonuses is smaller than the former. However, it's large enough not to appear to be punitive.

Also, what about salespeople who make honking-huge commissions? Are they gonna' be taxed even more? Well, guess what, FCBBHO? People who earn huge commissions are the ones who pump up a company's bottom line and if you take away their incentives, those companies are gonna' suffer.

I'm no economic expert--far from it, in fact--but, I am smart enough to see this.

546 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:19:52am

re: #529 MandyManners

I know nervous laughter, and this was NOT nervous laughter. This came close to derision, to mocking. But, I don't like him, either.

Agreed, but I have lots of trouble being objective about the guy.
Honestly IMO, if you peel back his psyche, I think that it wouldn't be pretty

547 steve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:20:05am

Leaving work in 39 minutes and going home to bed. Good morning Lizards!

548 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:20:21am
549 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:20:45am

re: #520 Bloodnok

I can read French pretty well. I found the source article in Le Figaro. I don't see any mention of it infuriating Sarkozy, though.

[Link: www.lefigaro.fr...]

No, I also see no mention of any reaction by Sarkozy - but if the letter really exists as described, then I think we can rest assured that Sarkozy is insulted.

550 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:21:15am

re: #544 rightside

A gift certificate for dinner at outback steakhouse, and a 6 pack of Fosters lager.

Don't forget the Crocodile Dundee DVD's.

551 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:21:29am

re: #537 apachegunner

Its making my leg tingle :>)

Stop that right now, our internet is being spied on here and you'll get LGF banned in OZ :-)

552 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:21:29am

re: #524 yesandno

oooooo-- Does that mean Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick will have to pay back their bonuses as well?

/naw....it only applies to buiness people without political connections.

What is Gorelick up to nowadays?

553 ilzito guacamolito  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:21:46am

re: #550 soxfan4life

Don't forget the Crocodile Dundee DVD's.

In the wrong format, of course.

554 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:22:00am

re: #542 Chicago Blonde

re: #526 rightside

I think it would be great if everyone in the States sent him (and all other critters) a simple email or letter:

You first.

A blue ray edition of the complete set Mad Max movies.

555 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:22:01am

re: #541 aussiemagpie

Our PM Kevvie Rudd, AKA KRUDD is on his way over to see President Obama

I'm wondering what lovely gift Kevvie will receive from the US President?

YAhoo Serious movies.

556 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:22:30am

re: #538 sattv4u2

get you and the puter outta the bathtub!

And leave my rubber ducky all alone? :-)

557 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:22:31am

re: #550 soxfan4life

Yes, but they'll be the wrong region too LMFAO!

558 eon  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:22:32am

re: #541 aussiemagpie

Our PM Kevvie Rudd, AKA KRUDD is on his way over to see President Obama

I'm wondering what lovely gift Kevvie will receive from the US President?

The Ashes?

(Once he cons Gordon Brown out of them, that is.)

/barring that, probably a lovely fruit basket- $9.99 at Costco

cheers

eon

559 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:22:58am

re: #541 aussiemagpie

Our PM Kevvie Rudd, AKA KRUDD is on his way over to see President Obama

I'm wondering what lovely gift Kevvie will receive from the US President?

Doh! I quoted the wrong post. See my# 554.

560 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:22:59am

re: #525 opnion

Things are starting to remind of Russia during the run up tro the Bolshevik Revolution. People are now openly saying that income inequality is unfair & needs to be reformed. There was a Dem pundit on FNC this morning making the case.

The guy with the pretty hair? Gretchen let the guy on the left of the screen refute him fairly well.

I like the way Fox is showing that this is an attack on Capitalism.

561 steve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:23:18am

re: #541 aussiemagpie

Our PM Kevvie Rudd, AKA KRUDD is on his way over to see President Obama

I'm wondering what lovely gift Kevvie will receive from the US President?

Probably give Kevvie a copy of O's favorite new release: 'Australia' :-)

562 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:23:26am

BBIAB

563 yesandno  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:24:17am

re: #528 Bloodnok

Well I don't know if it pissed Sarkozy off, but it had that affect on me.

He is such an immature individual. Even my 17 year old knows that blaming someone else for past events doesn't make things better for her.

He needs to grow up...

"Look at me, I argued against the war" 'Course, I was a legislator in Chicago at the time voting present whenever I could so my opinion didn't count for anything."

Must have written that a few weeks ago. Last week he was occupied with filling out brackets and pissing off Coach K.

564 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:24:39am

re: #536 soxfan4life

I would have never guessed.

Which is the biggest clue: "Fucking" or "Commie" or "Bastard"?

565 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:25:18am

re: #533 The Other Les

They believe that we are no better than dumb animals and they base their theories and policies on that belief. We are livestock to them.

Ideology is the opiate of the ruling class.

Not the opiate. More like crack. They're wide awake.

566 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:25:44am

re: #545 MandyManners

I don't think so. The group of people who get paychecks is larger than those who don't but, the group of workers who get bonuses is smaller than the former. However, it's large enough not to appear to be punitive.

Also, what about salespeople who make honking-huge commissions? Are they gonna' be taxed even more? Well, guess what, FCBBHO? People who earn huge commissions are the ones who pump up a company's bottom line and if you take away their incentives, those companies are gonna' suffer.

I'm no economic expert--far from it, in fact--but, I am smart enough to see this.

The fact that you admit it makes you better than our President.

567 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:26:07am

re: #564 MandyManners

Which is the biggest clue: "Fucking" or "Commie" or "Bastard"?

I think the three together are what really tips it off.

568 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:26:41am

re: #560 MandyManners

The guy with the pretty hair? Gretchen let the guy on the left of the screen refute him fairly well.

I like the way Fox is showing that this is an attack on Capitalism.

That's the guy. I have never seen him before & can't recall his name.
He came across as a Marxist economic theorist.
When asked if he believed in the American Dream, he answered in the affirmative, but then described at as a time when incomes were more equal.

569 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:27:17am

re: #546 opnion

Agreed, but I have lots of trouble being objective about the guy.
Honestly IMO, if you peel back his psyche, I think that it wouldn't be pretty

Why be objective when we have the standard against which to measure him? We KNOW he's a fucking Commie.

570 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:28:28am

re: #544 rightside

A gift certificate for dinner at outback steakhouse, and a 6 pack of Fosters lager.


A great deal of thought went into that choice! You are perfect for the job of White House Chief Present Picker :-)

We don't have Outback restaurants here nor would any self respecting Aussie touch Fosters :-)

As I said, perfect!

571 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:29:19am

re: #525 opnion

Things are starting to remind of Russia during the run up tro the Bolshevik Revolution. People are now openly saying that income inequality is unfair & needs to be reformed. There was a Dem pundit on FNC this morning making the case.

Events & actions should remind you of the Bolshevik Revolution, it's the same doctrine changed & evolved for an American society.

572 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:29:44am

re: #566 soxfan4life

The fact that you admit it makes you better than our President.

The beginning of knowledge is admitting you're ignornant. FCBBHO never could admit that.

573 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:30:00am

re: #548 taxfreekiller

aussiemagpie

How about a signed copy of "Mutant Message from Down Under" ?

Hello TFK, sounds like what our PM will be delivering to the White House
:-)

574 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:30:29am

re: #567 Ford_Prefect

I think the three together are what really tips it off.

I think the "Fucking" gives it more punch.

575 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:30:46am

Morning (((AussieMagpie)))!

576 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:31:10am
577 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:31:18am

re: #570 aussiemagpie

Fosters, Australian for bad beer.

578 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:31:22am

re: #555 Mithrax

YAhoo Serious movies.

In the wrong format, and then it's a perfect gift :-)

579 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:31:28am

re: #568 opnion

That's the guy. I have never seen him before & can't recall his name.
He came across as a Marxist economic theorist.
When asked if he believed in the American Dream, he answered in the affirmative, but then described at as a time when incomes were more equal.

Which America is that? The America of FCBBHO!

580 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:31:35am

Have no fear, Lizards.

We're finally under the magic 1400 days to go !

[Link: obamaclock.org...]

581 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:31:49am

re: #569 MandyManners

Why be objective when we have the standard against which to measure him? We KNOW he's a fucking Commie.

I'll go with that, but if he appeared with a hammer & cycle lapel pin, people like Chris Matthews would miss the point & get oragasmic about his "cool."

582 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:32:24am

re: #580 sattv4u2

Have no fear, Lizards.

We're finally under the magic 1400 days to go !

[Link: obamaclock.org...]


The tough parts over then.//

583 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:32:30am

This is an article that should be shared with every left-wing liberal Dumocrat you know. If this doesn't work then borrow Mandy's cluebat and apply liberally (pun intended).

Democracy in Europe
It’s lethargic and uninspiring — and ours could be like it soon.

*snips

Regarding health care: In Great Britain, 100,000 operations are canceled every year because of the need for rationing. In Sweden, patients must sometimes wait 25 weeks to make an appointment for heart surgery. When patients in these countries finally do obtain care, they often find themselves subjected to technologies that have long since been rendered obsolete. These outcomes are not peculiar to Europe; they occur in every country where the government controls access to health care and regulates everything from the price of drugs to the salaries of doctors.

We see a similar pattern in European education systems. Austria and Germany, for example, have made universities essentially free for all students. As a result, far too many students apply to universities every year, which leads to crowded classrooms and professors who cannot devote individual attention to their students. On top of that, the federal government imposes caps on the number of students who can pursue certain oversubscribed fields of study. All of this might be worth it if it enabled deserving students to obtain university degrees they otherwise could not afford. Unfortunately, however, it is far more common for students to remain enrolled for years and years, trying one field and then another, with no sense of urgency or purpose.

The effect of all this is to stifle independent thought — precisely the kind of thought that results in a vibrant private sector, fueled by creative entrepreneurship. Such entrepreneurship becomes increasingly less relevant in the public’s eye as the federal government, not the free market, makes the critical decisions on which products, ideas, and projects merit attention and funding.

The human spirit does not respond well to dependence. It withers. The freedom to make choices, to succeed and stumble on our own merits, the hardiness that comes from having to rely on ourselves — these are the things that make us whole. And that, really, is the most cautionary part of this tale: Americans must resist the creeping welfare state, lest we lose not only our quintessential Americanism, but ultimately also some unquantifiable measure of our humanity.

584 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:33:05am

re: #581 opnion

I'll go with that, but if he appeared with a hammer & cycle lapel pin, people like Chris Matthews would miss the point & get oragasmic about his "cool."

Mr. Tingle wouldn't know Communism if it bit him on the ass.

585 yesandno  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:33:18am

re: #552 MandyManners

What is Gorelick up to nowadays?

From Wikipedia:

She is currently a law partner in the Washington office of WilmerHale and a member of the boards of United Technologies Corporation, Schlumberger, Ltd., the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the Washington Legal Clinic for the Homeless and Legal Affairs.[1]

Oooo...legal clinician for the homeless....we soon will all qualify for her "aid"....particularly since she has been so helpful in the past.

586 Happy Fun Ball  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:33:20am

Nice one, Obama...

Dollar Declines Most Since 1985 Plaza Accord on Fed Bond Buying
March 21 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar dropped the most against the currencies of six major U.S. trading partners since the Plaza Accord almost a quarter-century ago as the Federal Reserve’s plan to purchase Treasuries spurred speculation that it’s debasing the greenback.

“What it introduces is the problem of the currency to the extent that the Fed is buying what isn’t desired by foreign holders,” said Bill Gross, co-chief investment officer of Pacific Investment Management Co., in an interview on Bloomberg Television on March 19. “The Fed can keep interest rates where they want to keep them, at least for a 6- to 12- to 18-month period of time, but it will have consequences down the road.”

The U.S. currency weakened beyond $1.37 per euro this week for the first time since January as the central bank’s decision to increase its balance sheet by $1.15 trillion lowered yields, making American assets less attractive. The Norwegian krone and the New Zealand dollar rallied as the Fed’s move spurred advances in commodities.

The dollar depreciated 4.8 percent to $1.3582 per euro yesterday, from $1.2928 on March 13. The U.S. currency touched $1.3738 on March 19, the weakest level since Jan. 9. The dollar also fell 2.1 percent to 95.94 yen from 97.95. The euro increased for a fifth week versus the yen, gaining 2.9 percent to 130.29 after touching 130.49 yesterday, the highest level since Dec. 18.

The ICE’s trade-weighted Dollar Index dropped 4.1 percent this week to 83.84, the biggest decrease since the week in September 1985 when the U.S., U.K., France, Japan and West Germany agreed at New York’s Plaza Hotel to coordinate the devaluation of the dollar against the yen and deutsche mark.

587 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:34:00am

re: #574 MandyManners

I think the "Fucking" gives it more punch.

That sent a tingle up my leg, but I am not sure why.

588 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:34:01am

re: #571 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Events & actions should remind you of the Bolshevik Revolution, it's the same doctrine changed & evolved for an American society.

Does seem like it & more people than I would have ever thought are on board.
However some BHO supporters are getting a little nervous, you know like maybe he is actually serious about these thinga.

589 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:34:26am

re: #583 Ford_Prefect

This is an article that should be shared with every left-wing liberal Dumocrat you know. If this doesn't work then borrow Mandy's cluebat and apply liberally (pun intended).

Democracy in Europe
It’s lethargic and uninspiring — and ours could be like it soon.

*snips

But we have the One to deliver it those other rookies know nothing next to Barack.//

590 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:34:44am

Good morning, all.

I've been away too long. Been visiting my daughter and son in law on the east coast and now I don't know what the little 'Auto' thingy means.

591 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:35:07am
592 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:35:13am

re: #585 yesandno

From Wikipedia:

She is currently a law partner in the Washington office of WilmerHale and a member of the boards of United Technologies Corporation, Schlumberger, Ltd., the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the Washington Legal Clinic for the Homeless and Legal Affairs.[1]

Oooo...legal clinician for the homeless....we soon will all qualify for her "aid"....particularly since she has been so helpful in the past.

Still sucking off the Leftist teat.

593 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:35:13am

re: #584 MandyManners

Mr. Tingle wouldn't know Communism if it bit him on the ass.

But he would welcome it. Probably even enjoy it.

594 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:35:14am

re: #590 rw in san diego

click it and be amazed....

595 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:36:53am

re: #585 yesandno

She pocketed a hefty sum from her days at Fannie/Freddie, no?

596 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:37:00am

re: #584 MandyManners

Mr. Tingle wouldn't know Communism if it bit him on the ass.

Oh I don't know, he might say thank you sir, may I have another?
He actually said duriing the campaign & I am paraphrasing, If you are in a room when Obama speaks & you don't cry, then you are not an American.
It's in Bernie Goldberg's book.

597 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:37:00am

re: #587 Ford_Prefect

That sent a tingle up my leg, but I am not sure why.

I'm still trying to figure that out.

598 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:37:13am

re: #558 eon

The Ashes?

(Once he cons Gordon Brown out of them, that is.)

/barring that, probably a lovely fruit basket- $9.99 at Costco

cheers

eon

Maybe some vegies from the vegie patch out the back of the White House?

LOL about the Ashes! With Obama's detailed knowledge of history and his obvious careful research into what his visitors would like as a gift...../////

599 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:37:14am

re: #594 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dare I?

600 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:37:40am

re: #590 rw in san diego

Good morning, all.

I've been away too long. Been visiting my daughter and son in law on the east coast and now I don't know what the little 'Auto' thingy means.

It starts your car by remote.

601 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:37:42am

re: #586 Happy Fun Ball

Nice one, Obama...

Dollar Declines Most Since 1985 Plaza Accord on Fed Bond Buying
March 21 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar dropped the most against the currencies of six major U.S. trading partners since the Plaza Accord almost a quarter-century ago as the Federal Reserve’s plan to purchase Treasuries spurred speculation that it’s debasing the greenback.

“What it introduces is the problem of the currency to the extent that the Fed is buying what isn’t desired by foreign holders,” said Bill Gross, co-chief investment officer of Pacific Investment Management Co., in an interview on Bloomberg Television on March 19. “The Fed can keep interest rates where they want to keep them, at least for a 6- to 12- to 18-month period of time, but it will have consequences down the road.”

The U.S. currency weakened beyond $1.37 per euro this week for the first time since January as the central bank’s decision to increase its balance sheet by $1.15 trillion lowered yields, making American assets less attractive. The Norwegian krone and the New Zealand dollar rallied as the Fed’s move spurred advances in commodities.

The dollar depreciated 4.8 percent to $1.3582 per euro yesterday, from $1.2928 on March 13. The U.S. currency touched $1.3738 on March 19, the weakest level since Jan. 9. The dollar also fell 2.1 percent to 95.94 yen from 97.95. The euro increased for a fifth week versus the yen, gaining 2.9 percent to 130.29 after touching 130.49 yesterday, the highest level since Dec. 18.

The ICE’s trade-weighted Dollar Index dropped 4.1 percent this week to 83.84, the biggest decrease since the week in September 1985 when the U.S., U.K., France, Japan and West Germany agreed at New York’s Plaza Hotel to coordinate the devaluation of the dollar against the yen and deutsche mark.

Mission Accomplished- Barack Hussein Obama

602 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:38:12am

re: #583 Ford_Prefect

For what it's worth - nobody I know thinks socialized medicine is a good idea.

603 The Other Les  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:38:15am

re: #565 MandyManners

Not the opiate. More like crack. They're wide awake.

Good point.

604 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:38:21am

re: #593 soxfan4life

But he would welcome it. Probably even enjoy it.

I wonder if he gets bonuses.

605 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:38:47am

re: #541 aussiemagpie

Our PM Kevvie Rudd, AKA KRUDD is on his way over to see President Obama

I'm wondering what lovely gift Kevvie will receive from the US President?

A sheet of commemorative stamps featuring Queen Elizabeth II.

606 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:38:50am

re: #600 MandyManners

It starts your car by remote.

But I have a standard and leave my car in gear... Oh sh*t! BRB!

607 eon  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:39:10am

re: #571 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Events & actions should remind you of the Bolshevik Revolution, it's the same doctrine changed & evolved for an American society.

The difference being that a true "popular" revolution always starts from the bottom and goes up, not at the top and going down. The American and French Revolutions being a case in point.

The American Revolution was led by basically middle-class intellectuals with the support of the majority of the populace. The French Revolution was initially led by similar middle-class elements, who were then quickly usurped by non-middle class "intellectuals", who saw, and seized, an opportunity to put their ideas of a Utopian "ideal state" into practice. The result was the Terror, followed by Napoleon'.

Obama and Co. are less like Washington and Jefferson than they are like Robespierre' and Marat'. They have never been "leaders"- their only experience has been as rabble-rousers. And when such "Utopians" get their hands on the reins of power, they have an irritating tendency to think that the lessons of history do not apply to them.

/just thinking out loud

cheers

eon

608 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:39:17am

re: #590 rw in san diego


It's the auto promised you by the messiah.

609 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:39:26am

re: #493 lurking faith

OK, the use of Babelfish (shudder) has prompted me to do my own translation of the Le Figaro story. Beware: My French is lousy. But at least I will produce a translation that's recognizable as English.

Here's the original text:

Barack Obama a écrit à Jacques Chirac

Le président américain vient d'adresser une lettre «très sympathique » à Jacques Chirac, selon l'expression de ce dernier. «Je suis certain que nous pourrons au cours des quatre années à venir collaborer ensemble dans un esprit de paix et d'amitié afin de construire un monde plus sûr» , écrit le successeur de George W. Bush au prédécesseur de Nicolas Sarkozy. En évoquant le mot de « paix», Obama rend un hommage implicite à l'action de l'ancien président français qui s'était opposé à la guerre en Irak. Une intervention américaine contre laquelle le futur président américain s'était opposé comme sénateur, lors du vote au Congrès.

And here's my rough version:
Barack Obama wrote to Jacques Chirac

The American President just addressed a "very nice" letter to Jacques Chirac, according to the latest expression [?]. "I am certain that we can work together in a spirit of peace and amity over the next four years in order to build a more secure world," wrote the successor of George Bush to the predecessor of Nicolas Sarkozy. In evoking the word "peace," Obama renders implicit homage to the action of the former French President who was opposed to the war in Iraq. An American intervention against which the future American President was opposed as a Senator, at the time of the vote in Congress.

----
By the way, Le Figaro is a major daily paper, based in Paris. It looks like this was reported in the paper's political gossip portion, something like a Washington Whispers.

610 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:39:29am

re: #559 Ford_Prefect

Doh! I quoted the wrong post. See my# 554.

Put that beer down! Concentrate! :-)

611 yesandno  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:40:12am

re: #595 rightside

She pocketed a hefty sum from her days at Fannie/Freddie, no?


Yup...but I am sure she will return it once it was discovered she made a bonus while the company was going down hill.

Anyone for a bus tour?

612 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:40:17am

re: #604 MandyManners

I wonder if he gets bonuses.

I would be in favor of suspending the Constitution briefly to let Congress hit Matthews with the punitive tax, just for his assisstance in putting 0bama into office.

613 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:40:40am

re: #561 steve

Probably give Kevvie a copy of O's favorite new release: 'Australia' :-)

He might give Kevvie a nice T shirt with AUSTRIA written on it!

614 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:40:50am

re: #596 opnion

Oh I don't know, he might say thank you sir, may I have another?
He actually said duriing the campaign & I am paraphrasing, If you are in a room when Obama speaks & you don't cry, then you are not an American.
It's in Bernie Goldberg's book.

He's one of those who WANTS to be subjugated, to be dominated.

I bet he even likes atomic wedgies.

615 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:40:51am

And on that note, I'm out for a bit - I'll see you guys later. Have a good morning all.

616 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:40:51am

re: #600 MandyManners

LOL! I haven't lived in NY for decades. When I left there was no such thing as auto starting the car, but having just spent two weeks in Mass, I think that it's a marvelous invention.

617 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:41:13am

I clicked on the Auto - where's my retention bonus car?

618 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:41:43am

re: #603 The Other Les

Good point.

They're feeding ACORN's targets all kinds of opium.

619 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:41:49am

re: #575 Chicago Blonde

Morning (((AussieMagpie)))!

Hi there {Chicago Blonde}! Good to see you :-)

620 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:42:03am

re: #611 yesandno

$25 Million. Tax her at 90%

621 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:42:16am

re: #606 Ford_Prefect

But I have a standard and leave my car in gear... Oh sh*t! BRB!

RUN, FORD! RUN!

622 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:42:33am

re: #617 Spare O'Lake

I clicked on the Auto - where's my retention bonus car?

Once the taxes are taken out you can choose betwwen an ashtray or a unicycle.

623 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:42:45am

re: #610 aussiemagpie

Put that beer down! Concentrate! :-)

It's only 8:42 in the AM here. I don't start drinking until 9:00 AM at least.

624 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:43:26am

re: #608 rightside

LOL! I should have known not to ask lively morning lizards a silly question, but the answers are providing a distraction from my impending doom visit to the dentist in a few hours.

625 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:43:49am

re: #612 soxfan4life

I would be in favor of suspending the Constitution briefly to let Congress hit Matthews with the punitive tax, just for his assisstance in putting 0bama into office.

I wouldn't. The law must be fair even to craven assholes such as Matthews.

626 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:44:01am

re: #614 MandyManners

He's one of those who WANTS to be subjugated, to be dominated.

I bet he even likes atomic wedgies.

Mandy, All humor aside, I think that you are right.
Matthews has nothing less than a man crush on BHO.
He is a disgrace to journalism, which is pretty much disgraced.

627 abolitionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:44:02am

re: #440 ilzito guacamolito

Good morning.
Did the Idiot in Chief actually do that last night?
Zero giggles while Rome burns.

See here.
re: #160 Erik The Red

60 Minutes Kroft To Joking Obama "Are You Punch Drunk?"

Don't know if this has been posted yet?

The Presidency of The USA is not a joke.

628 yesandno  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:44:10am

re: #602 Chicago Blonde

For what it's worth - nobody I know thinks socialized medicine is a good idea.

Unfortunately, you don't know everybody Obama knows. And the clipboard kids will record everyone in favor--even if they are not--producing millions in favor of the 0 on any and all issues.

/Pledge....isn't not just for dusting anymore

629 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:44:21am

re: #577 soxfan4life

Fosters, Australian for bad beer.

Too right! Not that I drink beer, but I never see any of my beer drinking friends touch the stuff

630 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:44:45am

re: #624 rw in san diego

LOL! I should have known not to ask lively morning lizards a silly question, but the answers are providing a distraction from my impending doom visit to the dentist in a few hours.

Maybe this will help too.

631 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:45:00am

re: #623 Ford_Prefect

It's only 8:42 in the AM here. I don't start drinking until 9:00 AM at least.

When I was drinking I generally didn't stop until after 9:00 A.M.

632 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:45:18am

re: #616 rw in san diego

LOL! I haven't lived in NY for decades. When I left there was no such thing as auto starting the car, but having just spent two weeks in Mass, I think that it's a marvelous invention.

Where you live, the a/c will be started to cool down the interior.

633 gregg  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:45:39am

re: #541 aussiemagpie

Our PM Kevvie Rudd, AKA KRUDD is on his way over to see President Obama

I'm wondering what lovely gift Kevvie will receive from the US President?

I'm going with an All Blacks rugby jersey.

634 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:45:50am

re: #625 MandyManners

I wouldn't. The law must be fair even to craven assholes such as Matthews.

I never did like Crave A's - even when I was smoking almost anything.

635 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:46:22am

re: #633 gregg

I'm going with an All Blacks rugby jersey.


racist!

636 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:46:24am

re: #634 Spare O'Lake

I never did like Crave A's - even when I was smoking almost anything.

Craven.

637 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:46:32am

re: #568 opnion

That's the guy. I have never seen him before & can't recall his name.
He came across as a Marxist economic theorist.
When asked if he believed in the American Dream, he answered in the affirmative, but then described at as a time when incomes were more equal.


And when was that? The early colonies where everybody starved?

638 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:46:34am

Why are no cameras allowed to film Geithner's announcing the $1,000,000,000,000.00?

639 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:46:54am

re: #638 MandyManners

Why are no cameras allowed to film Geithner's announcing the $1,000,000,000,000.00?

Too expensive.

640 summergurl  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:47:03am

Adds a new dimension to having "lead in your pencil"

Chinese Wrappers

641 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:47:13am

re: #623 Ford_Prefect

It's only 8:42 in the AM here. I don't start drinking until 9:00 AM at least.

Why so late in the day? :-)

642 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:47:31am

Taliban commander among 10 killed in strike

Senior Taliban commander Maulawi Hassan and his associates were killed Saturday when troops attacked an isolated compound in the Kajaki area of southern Helmand province, NATO said in a statement, adding there were no civilians involved.

643 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:47:39am

re: #638 MandyManners

Why are no cameras allowed to film Geithner's announcing the $1,000,000,000,000.00?

Deniability down the road.

644 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:47:45am

re: #638 MandyManners

Why are no cameras allowed to film Geithner's announcing the $1,000,000,000,000.00?

They were going too, but during rehearsal Geithner couldn't do it with a straight face!

645 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:48:37am

re: #641 aussiemagpie

Why so late in the day? :-)

I need to get through a few cups of coffee first.

646 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:49:06am

re: #640 summergurl


Are they called Wangs?

647 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:49:23am

re: #626 opnion

Mandy, All humor aside, I think that you are right.
Matthews has nothing less than a man crush on BHO.
He is a disgrace to journalism, which is pretty much disgraced.

It's an anachronism to want to be ruled by kings but, those folks do exist. Just look at Europe! America was founded on the desire to NOT be ruled by kings, to rule ouselves.

648 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:49:40am

re: #646 rightside

Are they called Wangs?

No ,, you're wong!

649 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:49:52am

re: #638 MandyManners

Two words. Plausible deniability.

650 Rustler  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:49:57am

re: #638 MandyManners You really want cameras around when Geithner is talking about money? Looks like the Dow is finally recoving that(Geihtner on tv) might be the death blow.

651 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:49:58am

re: #630 Ford_Prefect

Oh, thanks...I really needed to see THAT this morning!

652 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:50:09am

re: #634 Spare O'Lake

I never did like Crave A's - even when I was smoking almost anything.

No DingDongs?

653 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:50:19am

re: #642 Sharmuta

Taliban commander among 10 killed in strike

"President Barack Obama's apology is expected later today."

/

654 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:51:03am

I agree that there's a touch of deniability. In this day and age, if it's not on film, did it really happen?

655 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:51:22am

re: #651 rw in san diego

Oh, thanks...I really needed to see THAT this morning!

No problem. ;-)

Gotta do some work. BRB.

656 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:52:19am

re: #605 Sharmuta

A sheet of commemorative stamps featuring Queen Elizabeth II.

Email the White House Chief Present Picker right away with that suggestion!

657 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:52:28am

re: #653 Ford_Prefect

"President Barack Obama's apology is expected later today."

/

And while he and the Dems are whipping up the mobs over the AIG bonuses they will send hundreds of billions in aid as well.

658 yesandno  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:52:38am

re: #640 summergurl

Adds a new dimension to having "lead in your pencil"

Chinese Wrappers

No doubt causing hyper-deflation in the once balooning industry...

659 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:52:53am
660 Rustler  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:53:58am

re: #659 Sharmuta OMG proof Obama is W's son not Malcolm X's that will shatter her isolated universe.

661 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:54:17am
662 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:54:19am

re: #659 Sharmuta

OMG! Somebody alert pamela!

And, David Icke and Alex Jones!

663 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:55:09am

re: #633 gregg

I'm going with an All Blacks rugby jersey.

LOL! Love it :-)

664 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:55:17am

re: #661 buzzsawmonkey

If Eau Bama™ is too strong for you, try Touch of Deniability™!

It's the elusive scent that puts others off the scent...so subtle, you hardly even know it's there!

Unless you get bonuses--it'll be as subtle as a freight train.

665 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:55:27am

re: #654 MandyManners


Think about this. They are almost to the point where they can seamlessly insert persons/objects into digital video. There will come a time when video cannot be trusted as proof.

666 eon  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:55:32am

re: #640 summergurl

Adds a new dimension to having "lead in your pencil"

Chinese Wrappers

Oh, that is wrong on so many levels.

We have a similar situation here in my home town. A local paper and cardboard recycler that has been open for over 40 years is closing down in May, and laying off 58 workers. Reason for shutdown? The new EPA regs on "CO2 emissions" that are coming down the pike will make it impossible to operate this recycling plant "in the black", due to the new emission controls they demand. (BTW, the primary atmospheric efflux of this plant, a pulping mill, is...steam.)

Which means that, in the Name of The Sacred Church of Ecology, this pulping plant will no longer produce... water vapor.

And the paper and cardboard it previously put back into industry will, instead, most likely go to...landfills.

Thus Is Holy Mother Gaia Saved.

/These people really, really need to look up the terms "Perverse Incentive" and "Law of Unintended Consequences" before they start writing laws.

cheers

eon

667 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:55:43am

My left clicker thanks Auto.

668 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:56:21am

re: #652 MandyManners

No DingDongs?

Dang, now I'm gonna have to go buy some of those.

/instant chocolate craving

669 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:56:42am

re: #665 rightside

Think about this. They are almost to the point where they can seamlessly insert persons/objects into digital video. There will come a time when video cannot be trusted as proof.

I wonder what Orwell would say.

670 eon  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:56:58am

re: #665 rightside

Think about this. They are almost to the point where they can seamlessly insert persons/objects into digital video. There will come a time when video cannot be trusted as proof.

After seeing Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, and several "UFO videos" from Mexico, I'd say it's already here.

cheers

eon

671 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:57:13am
672 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:57:17am

re: #653 Ford_Prefect

He won't apologise.

He'll deliver the eulogy and offer thanks for the campaign contributions.

673 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:57:21am

re: #645 Ford_Prefect

I need to get through a few cups of coffee first.

How conventional ////////

674 Rustler  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:57:22am

re: #669 MandyManners //I think he talked about it in a book somewhere.

675 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:57:31am

re: #669 MandyManners

I wonder what Orwell would say.

Not much, seeing he's been deasd since 1950

676 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:59:02am

re: #652 MandyManners

No DingDongs?

Only if I ran out of Twinkies.

677 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:00:10am

re: #668 lurking faith

Dang, now I'm gonna have to go buy some of those.

/instant chocolate craving

I had chili and chocolate for breakfast Saturday.

678 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:00:21am
679 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:00:48am

re: #677 MandyManners

Sounds delicious in an insane kind of way.

680 eon  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:01:08am

re: #669 MandyManners

I wonder what Orwell would say.

I'd expect Orwell and Aldous Huxley to be less than thrilled.

By comparison, Pavlov, B.F. Skinner, Marshall McLuhan, and Andy Warhol would probably be ecstatic.

/Not the people you really want to be getting a tingle...anywhere

cheers

eon

681 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:01:16am

re: #671 Sharmuta

0bama just before the 60Minutes interview.

"Are you punch-drunk?"

"Doooooooooood. You got punch? Where?"

682 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:01:36am

re: #675 sattv4u2

Not much, seeing he's been deasd since 1950

*sigh*

*whack*

683 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:03:05am

re: #678 buzzsawmonkey

Orwell modeled the editing activities of the Ministry of Truth on the standard practices of the Stalin regime. Take a look at the book "The Commissar Vanishes," if you can find a copy; it shows how various people who had been purged and decreed "unpersons" were progressively edited out of--and, in some cases, later re-edited back into--photographs and paintings.

Today's techniques are more seamless, but not substantially different.

I remember seeing those photographs here! Down-right spooky. It's mental rape.

684 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:03:08am

Does anyone know what has become of Obama's proposal to demand that the military carry their own private health insurance?

685 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:03:34am

re: #679 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sounds delicious in an insane kind of way.

I don't have to set an good example with The Kid on vacation.

686 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:03:54am

re: #684 rw in san diego

Like much of America's wealth, it quietly disappared.

687 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:04:10am

re: #677 MandyManners

How'd you eat it? it actually sounds quite nummy.

688 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:04:33am

re: #680 eon

I'd expect Orwell and Aldous Huxley to be less than thrilled.

By comparison, Pavlov, B.F. Skinner, Marshall McLuhan, and Andy Warhol would probably be ecstatic.

/Not the people you really want to be getting a tingle...anywhere

cheers

eon

I had a professor in J-school who worshipped McLuhan.

689 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:05:08am

re: #687 Mithrax

How'd you eat it? it actually sounds quite nummy.

A couple of bites of chili, then a bite of chocolate.

690 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:05:14am

re: #686 rightside

I thought it was a joke the first time I heard about it. It's just unbelievable that Obama could be so dense....OK, maybe not.

691 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:05:34am

re: #689 MandyManners

sounds like I have something to try for lunch. TY!

692 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:05:48am

Good morning you all - from a coolish (43 degrees going up to 69 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte - how is everyone doing today?

693 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:06:17am
694 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:06:23am

re: #681 MandyManners

"Are you punch-drunk?"

"Doooooooooood. You got punch? Where?"

LOL!

695 Rustler  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:06:56am

re: #681 MandyManners
A president laughing at the state of our economy and calling it gallows humor pisses me off. When we soldiers used to use "gallows humor" before a mission no one laughed and I'm absollutely certain noone giggled like a school girl about the troubles we would be facing, it was just a way to lessen reservations before the mission.

696 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:07:02am

re: #638 MandyManners

Why are no cameras allowed to film Geithner's announcing the $1,000,000,000,000.00?

Depending upon who was invited to attend, it might make good ol Geit look like the main course of cannibal feast.

697 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:07:24am

re: #692 realwest

Good morning, realwest! How are you and your mother? I've just returned to SD from the Boston suburbs where I helped my daughter and her husband move. I've got an awful dentist appointment coming up this morning and I'm dreading it.

698 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:07:28am

re: #690 rw in san diego

Most likely another misdirection, to keep his real agenda from the scrutiny of Americans.

Keep fomenting phony outrage over minutiae, while the other hand picks our pockets clean.

699 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:08:20am

re: #698 rightside

Good point.

700 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:08:30am

re: #695 Rustler

A president laughing at the state of our economy and calling it gallows humor pisses me off. When we soldiers used to use "gallows humor" before a mission no one laughed and I'm absollutely certain noone giggled like a school girl about the troubles we would be facing, it was just a way to lessen reservations before the mission.

Imagine the press and public's reaction if Bush had needed "gallows humor" on camera during Katrina.

701 Rustler  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:08:42am

re: #697 rw in san diego
Boxer on right and a yellow lab mix on left?

702 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:08:53am

re: #690 rw in san diego
Hey there rw! How are you doing today? Fox and Friends just had a sound-bite about Obama and 60 Minues but didn't say anything at all about Obama's laughing inappropriately or Kroft's asking him "Are you punch drunk"!
They did mention that Obama said sending 17,000 men from Iraq to Afghanistan was the most difficult thing he's had to do as President.
Do y'all think that means he stopped sleeping with Michelle once he took the oath of office?!?

703 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:08:54am

re: #699 rw in san diego

I wear a hat to keep it hidden. shhh.

704 eon  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:09:24am

re: #684 rw in san diego

Does anyone know what has become of Obama's proposal to demand that the military carry their own private health insurance?

1. He was told by his own Party leadership in Congress that it was "dead on arrival".

2. At least some of his advisors are saying (quietly) that it's "still on the table", they just made a bad "judgment call" in floating it the way they did.

I look for it to resurface as part of his National Health Plan. Putting veterans under the same health care system as everyone else, with a cry of "The same care for everyone" (except Congress, etc., of course).

Which will mean that in ten years, even veterans will be waiting for everyday medical care, let alone surgery, just like everyone else then. Or everyone in the UK, Canada, Sweden, etc., now.

At what point do the progressives just come right out and admit that they do this sort of thing because they just don't like people very much?

Have to run. Have great day, Lizards.

cheers

eon

705 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:09:46am

re: #701 Rustler

Yes! The lab is ours and the boxer belongs to my son. They're both spoiled rotten and we're crazy about them.

706 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:09:49am

Today's Obamateurism. at HotAir.

707 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:10:07am

MM lists the phaunts who voted for the bone tax...

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

708 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:10:19am

re: #703 rightside

LOL!

709 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:10:19am

re: #688 MandyManners

I had a professor in J-school who worshipped McLuhan.

Mandy - were you posting at Ace of Spaces last night? If not, then you've been nic-jacked.

710 Rustler  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:10:27am

re: #700 Sharmuta
Dear God had Bush used gallows humor at Katrina he woulda been impeached in hours.

711 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:10:29am

re: #693 buzzsawmonkey

Marshall McLuhan is the inspiration for the current Administration's "Marshall Plan."

I have the LGF Plan.

712 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:10:31am

WTF, my retention bonus still hasn't been direct deposited into my bank account!
Anyone else having this problem?

713 gregg  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:10:56am

re: #684 rw in san diego

Does anyone know what has become of Obama's proposal to demand that the military carry their own private health insurance?

Even the Democrats in congress said "no way", so he dropped it.

714 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:11:52am

re: #707 albusteve

That shit should be outlawed!

715 abolitionist  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:12:08am

re: #666 eon

Oh, that is wrong on so many levels.

We have a similar situation here in my home town. A local paper and cardboard recycler that has been open for over 40 years is closing down in May, and laying off 58 workers. Reason for shutdown? The new EPA regs on "CO2 emissions" that are coming down the pike will make it impossible to operate this recycling plant "in the black", due to the new emission controls they demand. (BTW, the primary atmospheric efflux of this plant, a pulping mill, is...steam.)

Which means that, in the Name of The Sacred Church of Ecology, this pulping plant will no longer produce... water vapor.

And the paper and cardboard it previously put back into industry will, instead, most likely go to...landfills.

Thus Is Holy Mother Gaia Saved.

/These people really, really need to look up the terms "Perverse Incentive" and "Law of Unintended Consequences" before they start writing laws.

cheers

eon

So if I plant a tree, I may be liable for the greenhouse gas emissions/pollution, such as H2O. Or if I stubbornly continue breathing. Not much of a stretch, huh?

716 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:12:08am

Jonesin' for a smoke....

717 Rustler  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:12:10am

Laters all be safe Relief almost here nasty wind storms made em late.

718 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:12:23am

re: #712 Spare O'Lake

WTF, my retention bonus still hasn't been direct deposited into my bank account!
Anyone else having this problem?

Look out your mansion window. If you see a mob with torches, me' thinks you've found your 'problem"

719 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:12:25am

re: #697 rw in san diego
Hey rw, mom and I are ok, though I have a really bad backache near the end of my spine and have a lot of chores to do today!
Sorry to hear about the dentist's appointment - what's he or she gonna do to you?And I'm sorry to hear that your daughter and S-i- are living in Boston or any part of Taxachussets!

720 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:12:26am

re: #695 Rustler

A president laughing at the state of our economy and calling it gallows humor pisses me off. When we soldiers used to use "gallows humor" before a mission no one laughed and I'm absollutely certain noone giggled like a school girl about the troubles we would be facing, it was just a way to lessen reservations before the mission.

I'm reminded of a woman in the audience behind FCBBHO when he compared AIG and bankers to suicide-bombers. She grimmaced and cringed. She found NOTHING funny in that bit of gallow's humor.

721 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:12:56am

re: #713 gregg

Even the Democrats in congress said "no way", so he dropped it.

Watch them sneak it in as an amendment to some non-descrpit bill

722 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:13:04am

re: #714 rightside

That shit should be outlawed!

my exact sentiment....it's pay to play and it sucks

723 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:13:36am

re: #716 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Jonesin' for a smoke....

Keeping saying to yourself that you will not willingly pay more taxes.

724 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:13:46am

re: #709 reine.de.tout

Mandy - were you posting at Ace of Spaces last night? If not, then you've been nic-jacked.

WHAT THE FUCK?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

How do I stop this? Can I?

725 The Other Les  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:14:07am

re: #666 eon


Which means that, in the Name of The Sacred Church of Ecology, this pulping plant will no longer produce... water vapor.

And the paper and cardboard it previously put back into industry will, instead, most likely go to...landfills.

Thus Is Holy Mother Gaia Saved.

/These people really, really need to look up the terms "Perverse Incentive" and "Law of Unintended Consequences" before they start writing laws.


That would require actually looking at reality as it really is. Which would result in their reaching the conclusion that they are fundamentally wrong and that their actions are harmful to human life. Which would objectively mean that they are the bad guys. Which would cause them to feel bad about themselves.

Therefore they won't do it.

726 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:14:07am

re: #677 MandyManners

I had chili and chocolate for breakfast Saturday.

Mole? recipe linky

727 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:14:10am

re: #709 reine.de.tout

Mandy - were you posting at Ace of Spaces last night? If not, then you've been nic-jacked.

Do you have a link?

728 JacksonTn  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:14:21am

re: #720 MandyManners

I'm reminded of a woman in the audience behind FCBBHO when he compared AIG and bankers to suicide-bombers. She grimmaced and cringed. She found NOTHING funny in that bit of gallow's humor.

Mandy ... did he really say that? If he did ... well, I cannot even say what I am thinking ... SO PROUD TO SAY THAT I DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA and ANYONE WHO DID OR SAT HOME AND DID NOT VOTE ... well, I will not say what I am thinking about that either ...

729 Rustler  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:14:39am

re: #720 MandyManners
Especially when his laughter followed information not an exageration or "Joke" at the expense of the bad economy, like his "joke" on AIG execs and Bankers.

730 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:15:05am

I love this stuff...more cracks and without the MSM BO is worthless


[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

731 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:15:21am

re: #713 gregg

Did you see eon's post (#704)? I hope he's wrong, but with this bunch in charge, who knows? It's just immoral to even consider treating the military this way, especially when you consider the red carpet medicine mandated for the crooks and creeps in Congress.

732 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:15:34am

re: #692 realwest

Good morning you all - from a coolish (43 degrees going up to 69 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte - how is everyone doing today?

*Smooch* {darls} and all is well here at Chez Aussiemagpie, and I hope you and your Mum are doing well too!

Lovely warm night here :-)

733 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:15:56am

re: #723 Sharmuta

Keeping saying to yourself that you will not willingly pay more taxes.

Keep saying to yourself you will not willing follow in Obama's footsteps.

734 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:16:01am

re: #724 MandyManners

WHAT THE FUCK?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

How do I stop this? Can I?

No clue. The comments did not sound "like" you, so I suspected it wasn't you.

Your "problem" is that you apparently are fairly well known among readers of LGF and Ace of Spades. Wish you could trademark your nic or something.

735 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:16:13am

re: #727 MandyManners

Do you have a link?

just a sec.

736 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:16:25am

re: #728 JacksonTn

Mandy ... did he really say that? If he did ... well, I cannot even say what I am thinking ... SO PROUD TO SAY THAT I DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA and ANYONE WHO DID OR SAT HOME AND DID NOT VOTE ... well, I will not say what I am thinking about that either ...

Yes, he said that.

Does anyone have a link to it?

737 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:16:34am

re: #684 rw in san diego

Does anyone know what has become of Obama's proposal to demand that the military carry their own private health insurance?


I'm waiting for his official budget proposal, due in a week or two. If he's going to try for it this year, it will probably show up there.

738 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:17:04am

re: #729 Rustler

Especially when his laughter followed information not an exageration or "Joke" at the expense of the bad economy, like his "joke" on AIG execs and Bankers.

I hope he keeps on acting like an asshole.

739 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:17:13am

re: #721 sattv4u2 Well I know of one Republican congress person, Sue Myrick (R-NC) and one Republican Senator (Burr-NC) who have been alerted to the possibility of that being snuck into the 1.5 TRILLION DOLLAR BUDGET that Obama is proposing and they have actually acknowledged that they are gonna be on the look out for that!
And Myrick and Burr have both kept their promises to me (made by e-mail, of course) in the past so let's hope they are sharp enough that Obama can't get it snuck through.

740 Rustler  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:17:17am

re: #731 rw in san diego
Yeah look for the Military Health care revision to come as part of his Nationalizing of hte Nations health care. This way he can say he is just putting soldiers on a "fair" playing field with other citizens.

741 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:17:27am

re: #727 MandyManners

Do you have a link?

You first show up in this thread at 288.

Do "control + F", and type in Mandy Manners in the box to search for others.

742 Beach Lover  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:17:41am

morning, Lizards. good article from Steyn posted on NRO...
FTA
Right now, Washington is telling the planet: In our America, there are no rules. Got a legally binding contract? We’ll tear it up. Refuse to surrender the dough? We’ll pass a law targeted at you, yes, you, Mr. Beau Nuss of 27 Plutocrat Gardens, Fatcatville. If you want a banana republic on steroids, this is great news. So cheer on thuggish grandstanding by incompetent legislators-for-life like Barney Frank if you wish. But, in any battle between the political class and the business class, you’re only fooling yourself if you think it’s in your interest for the latter to lose.

The first two months of the Age of the Hopeychange have been an eye-opener. I expected it to be ideologically distasteful to me, but I didn’t expect it to be so inept. Not because I had any expectations of President Obama’s executive skills. But I assumed he’d have folks around him who could take care of details like governing, while he pranced around as the smiley-face hopeychange frontman. But the bench is still empty save for a handful of mediocrities. And the disconnect between the smoothly scripted mush and what’s actually happening makes the telepromptered cool look even more ridiculous.

743 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:18:21am

re: #741 reine.de.tout

You first show up in this thread at 288.

Do "control + F", and type in Mandy Manners in the box to search for others.

THANKS!

BBL, folks.

744 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:18:50am

re: #741 reine.de.tout

You first show up in this thread at 288.

Do "control + F", and type in Mandy Manners in the box to search for others.


They nic name jacked Walter, too.

745 Rustler  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:18:52am

re: #743 MandyManners
Take your clue by 4 and a few extra canisters of smoke.

746 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:19:17am

re: #719 realwest

He's going to replace a bridge that was originally done about 30 years ago.
Daughter and sil seem to have a good neighbor. I spotted a McCain/Palin sticker on his car and a "Gun control means being able to hit your target" sign as well. Surprised me, I didn't know there were normal people in Taxachusetts.

747 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:19:36am

re: #744 Bloodnok

They nic name jacked Walter, too.

Why yes they did!
But they screwed it up and put "Walter Newton", not Walter L. Newton.

"Mandy" shows up twice.

748 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:19:46am

re: #741 reine.de.tout

Nice of that hater "christmasghost" to show up and bash LGF.

749 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:20:16am

re: #741 reine.de.tout

You first show up in this thread at 288.

Do "control + F", and type in Mandy Manners in the box to search for others.

It sounds like someone who was banned and who now posts at two stalker blogs.

750 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:20:31am

re: #732 aussiemagpie Hey good evening/early morning to you {aussie} and a big *smooch* right back to you!
Mom and I are ok, though I have a bad backache this morning and we have a ton of chores to do today!
How are you doing - Chardy handy?
Say, have you heard about the volcano erupting in Alaska? Seriously - wonder how long it'll take FEMA to offer help to Alaska?!

751 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:21:41am

Reine- MrPaulRevere did go over there- he said so on the thread where Charles pointed out the bashing going on.

If I were an Ace commenter, I wouldn't be so quick to bash other blogs considering it seems Ace has his hands full dealing with multiple administrators.

752 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:21:45am

re: #748 Sharmuta

Nice of that hater "christmasghost" to show up and bash LGF.

Yup. A nirther, if I recall correctly.

753 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:21:57am

re: #749 MandyManners

It sounds like someone who was banned and who now posts at two stalker blogs.

That's what I thought.

754 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:22:17am

re: #752 Bloodnok

With a very vile blog of his/her own.

755 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:22:28am

Can I ask the owner of Ace to delete that nic?

756 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:22:30am

re: #748 Sharmuta

Nice of that hater "christmasghost" to show up and bash LGF.

Yep.
The comment thread was really strange.
There were two posts that just disappeared.
One about "code pink cuties"
And another one. This particular thread was to 'replace' the ones that disappeared. Strange goings-on.

I think it is just the lowest of the low to post something under a nic that is well-known elsewhere. A person's entire internet "persona" is tied up with their nic, and for someone else to use it that way is unconscionable.

757 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:22:36am

re: #750 realwest

Say, have you heard about the volcano erupting in Alaska? Seriously - wonder how long it'll take FEMA to offer help to Alaska?!

They will likely fine them for violating air quality standards.

Morning real.

758 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:22:36am

An interesting top 10 list of City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level with another interesting statistic to go with it.

1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
5. Miami , FL 26.9%
6. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
10. Newark , NJ 24.2%

U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007. What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961;
Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;
Cincinnati , OH (3rd)...since 1984;
Cleveland , OH (4th)...since 1989;
Miami , FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;
St. Louis , MO (6th)....since 1949;
El Paso , TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;
Milwaukee , WI (8th)...since 1908;
Philadelphia , PA (9th)...since 1952;
Newark , NJ (10th)...since 1907.

Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

759 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:22:50am
760 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:22:57am

re: #749 MandyManners

It sounds like someone who was banned and who now posts at two stalker blogs.

If it is who I think it is you were right about that psycho a long time ago.

761 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:23:34am

re: #740 Rustler

Right, except for Congress...they have their own field. Drives me nuts!

762 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:23:34am

re: #739 realwest

Good work. Keep up the diligent pressure

763 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:23:36am

re: #738 MandyManners

I hope he keeps on acting like an asshole.

I'm sure he will. He can't help it.

764 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:23:51am

re: #751 Sharmuta

Reine- MrPaulRevere did go over there- he said so on the thread where Charles pointed out the bashing going on.

If I were an Ace commenter, I wouldn't be so quick to bash other blogs considering it seems Ace has his hands full dealing with multiple administrators.

Yep, I saw that. That's a different thing entirely.

Makes one really appreciative of how this place is run, doesn't it?

765 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:25:02am

re: #758 filetandrelease

Thanks ,,, saved and filed away for future 'debates"

766 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:25:05am

re: #755 MandyManners

Can I ask the owner of Ace to delete that nic?

You can always ASK; what happens is another matter.
registration is not required to post there. You just fill in a blank form with your comment and the nic you want posted.

767 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:25:39am

re: #741 reine.de.tout
Good morning reine! Hope you're well today. I noticed that Mr.PaulRevere was on there also, defending Charles and LGF!

768 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:25:43am

re: #758 filetandrelease

Ahh, my former home, Buffalo. Permanently in democrat control. Attention libtards, do you see any pattern with cities run by democrats?

769 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:25:55am

re: #767 realwest

Good morning reine! Hope you're well today. I noticed that Mr.PaulRevere was on there also, defending Charles and LGF!

Yep, I noticed that too!

770 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:26:31am

re: #764 reine.de.tout

I mean zero disrespect to anyone at Ace's but it seems to me that blogs with multiple admins will eventually lead to issues such as he's dealing with now. I can understand a person needing a little help with their blog perhaps, but it seems inevitable that conflicts will arise with more than one cook in the kitchen.

771 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:26:50am

I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus.
I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus. I want my bonus.
OR ELSE!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!

772 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:27:56am

Well, I've gotta go! BBL...I hope.

773 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:28:05am

re: #746 rw in san diego
Well heck rw, replacing a bridge shouldn't be all that painful - should it?!
And glad that they have at least one good neigbor there, but remember, Taxachussets keeps re-electing Kennedy and Kerry so there's that!
Good luck with the dentist!

774 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:28:12am

re: #753 Sharmuta

I'm shooting an e-mail to you now.

775 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:28:23am

After the poster's nic, at Ace, there is a string of characters. I'm thinking that these are some sort of unique identifiers.

This string -7FgWm - is used for "Mandy's" posts, "Walter's" posts and also appears after a nic "who knows", who first posted over there saying "LGF is boring".

776 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:28:29am

re: #771 Spare O'Lake
Can you sing that to the tune of "Old Man River"?
Goodmorning all!

777 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:28:32am
778 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:28:52am

re: #742 Beach Lover

morning, Lizards. good article from Steyn posted on NRO...
FTA
Right now, Washington is telling the planet: In our America, there are no rules. Got a legally binding contract? We’ll tear it up. Refuse to surrender the dough? We’ll pass a law targeted at you, yes, you, Mr. Beau Nuss of 27 Plutocrat Gardens, Fatcatville. If you want a banana republic on steroids, this is great news. So cheer on thuggish grandstanding by incompetent legislators-for-life like Barney Frank if you wish. But, in any battle between the political class and the business class, you’re only fooling yourself if you think it’s in your interest for the latter to lose.

The first two months of the Age of the Hopeychange have been an eye-opener. I expected it to be ideologically distasteful to me, but I didn’t expect it to be so inept. Not because I had any expectations of President Obama’s executive skills. But I assumed he’d have folks around him who could take care of details like governing, while he pranced around as the smiley-face hopeychange frontman. But the bench is still empty save for a handful of mediocrities. And the disconnect between the smoothly scripted mush and what’s actually happening makes the telepromptered cool look even more ridiculous.

That's gonna leave a mark.

779 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:29:17am

re: #773 realwest

Dentists just scare the hell out of me. Hope your back feels better soon.

780 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:29:40am

re: #775 reine.de.tout

I am amazingly bored here. That's why I don't spend much time here.

781 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:29:48am

re: #779 rw in san diego

Dentists just scare the hell out of me. Hope your back feels better soon.

I wouldn't let a dentist work on my back.

/what?

782 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:29:53am

re: #760 Bloodnok

If it is who I think it is you were right about that psycho a long time ago.

I wasn't the only one who knew about him.

783 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:30:38am

re: #763 lurking faith

I'm sure he will. He can't help it.

And his comrades will continue to try to justify and explain his behavior.

784 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:31:14am

re: #775 reine.de.tout

After the poster's nic, at Ace, there is a string of characters. I'm thinking that these are some sort of unique identifiers.

This string -7FgWm - is used for "Mandy's" posts, "Walter's" posts and also appears after a nic "who knows", who first posted over there saying "LGF is boring".

But other nics have different strings?

785 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:31:14am

re: #757 Ford_Prefect
Good morning Ford! Yep, probably will. But it's gonna be a cold day in Alaska when Obama sends in FEMA (and yes I KNOW Alaska has more than it's share of cold days, but we're coming into the Alaska summer, so their on their own up there!
BTW, did you catch my line about sending the 17000 troops to Afghanistan being the most difficult thing Obama has ever had to do (according to him)?

786 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:31:15am

re: #766 reine.de.tout

You can always ASK; what happens is another matter.
registration is not required to post there. You just fill in a blank form with your comment and the nic you want posted.

What in the world?

787 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:31:31am

re: #781 Ward Cleaver

I wouldn't let a dentist work on my back.

/what?

Would you let an optomitrist work on your eye teeth?

788 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:31:49am

re: #781 Ward Cleaver

LOL! I was offering my sympathy to realwest, who has a bad back ache today and lots of chores to do and responding to his comment that my visit to the dentist shouldn't be too bad.

789 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:31:54am

re: #784 Sharmuta

But other nics have different strings?

yes.

790 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:32:13am

re: #750 realwest

Hey good evening/early morning to you {aussie} and a big *smooch* right back to you!
Mom and I are ok, though I have a bad backache this morning and we have a ton of chores to do today!
How are you doing - Chardy handy?
Say, have you heard about the volcano erupting in Alaska? Seriously - wonder how long it'll take FEMA to offer help to Alaska?!

Chardy is right here with me! And look after your back, no heavy lifting !

No I hadn't heard about the volcano, I'll catch up with the online news in a minute then :-)

with e volcano - I'll catch up

791 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:32:20am

re: #759 Ojoe

The thin light of the dawn comes to the San Gabriel Mountains of California. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.

Good Morning.

No work here, but I hear laughter from the President.

That's beautiful.

As for Obama - reefer madness.

792 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:32:22am

re: #607 eon

Look at Obama's grassroots structure for campaigning - even what he's currently doing and proposing while in office - there's really no difference. It's mobilization, activism and fund raising at the lowest levels.

793 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:32:36am

re: #787 sattv4u2

Would you let an optomitrist work on your eye teeth?

Why not?

/

794 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:32:53am

re: #793 Ward Cleaver

Why not?

/

see?!?!?!?

795 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:33:25am

re: #759 Ojoe Thanks for the photo Ojoe! I'm sorry you have no work - what is it you do (or did) and whereabouts?

796 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:33:26am

re: #786 MandyManners

What in the world?

You asked if you could ask Ace to remove the nic "Mandy Manners".

You can ask - and in fact, I strongly suggest you do contact Ace - but I don't know what he will do, is all I was saying.

They don't require registration - you could go over there right now and fill out the comment form with the nic "Sharmuta" and post a comment.

797 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:33:38am

re: #792 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Look at Obama's grassroots structure for campaigning - even what he's currently doing and proposing while in office - there's really no difference. It's mobilization, activism and fund raising at the lowest levels.

I can't believe that friggin' Web site is still up. Sheesh.

798 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:34:28am

Off today..."Annie Hall" is on "TCM" In-Demand....

Have never seen it all the way through.

799 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:35:20am

re: #798 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Off today..."Annie Hall" is on "TCM" In-Demand....

Have never seen it all the way through.

Gah!

800 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:35:28am

re: #769 reine.de.tout
Sorry, while I was typing that other posters mentioned it too. At least he was defending LGF and Charles.
What's wrong with the admin's over there - do they not check or "moderate" comments? I used to think it was a good blog but now I'm beginning to wonder.....

801 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:35:41am

re: #799 Ward Cleaver

So, you no like?

802 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:36:41am

re: #779 rw in san diego
Thanks rw - yeah, dentists scare the hell outta me too!
Still and all, replacing a bridge shouldn't really hurt much, should it?

803 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:36:41am

re: #647 MandyManners

It's an anachronism to want to be ruled by kings but, those folks do exist. Just look at Europe! America was founded on the desire to NOT be ruled by kings, to rule ouselves.


Yup. I wonder what kind of atonement Steve Kroft will have to make for asking Obama on 60 Minutes , 'Are you punch drunk?"

804 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:37:10am

re: #780 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am amazingly bored here. That's why I don't spend much time here.

You new here? //

805 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:37:14am

re: #800 realwest

Ace said during the election that the right was going crazy and then said his commenters were too.

806 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:37:16am

re: #795 realwest

Architect. California. In 6 months to a year, my lack of work now (colleagues too) means no construction jobs, with quite a multiplier.

Obama laughs; Palin would say God loves us all and we will get through this.


BBL

807 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:38:22am

re: #803 opnion

Yup. I wonder what kind of atonement Steve Kroft will have to make for asking Obama on 60 Minutes , 'Are you punch drunk?"

none at all unless he wants to....fuck BO...he's just a guy

808 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:38:56am

re: #800 realwest

Sorry, while I was typing that other posters mentioned it too. At least he was defending LGF and Charles.
What's wrong with the admin's over there - do they not check or "moderate" comments? I used to think it was a good blog but now I'm beginning to wonder.....

I generally like the blog, but I don't know how much they check their comments - it's hard for me to wade through those comments, there is so much profanity.

But you can "post" there under any nic you care to type into the comment box.

809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:39:07am

re: #806 Ojoe

My best friend made 600 grand last year. This year, he thinks he'll make about, 249,999.00.

810 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:40:01am

Mornin' all, from a moderate 35 degree PNW. So we have a laughing jackanape for prez and the companies he and the admin demonized are being asked to buy debt! If I was a CEO and my company hadn't taken any bailout money, they'd be told to go piss up a rope!

811 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:40:09am

re: #809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My best friend made 600 grand last year. This year, he thinks he'll make about, 249,999.00.

I read where there are a lot of folks trying to calculate how they can reduce their income to exactly $249,999 this year.

812 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:40:12am

re: #785 realwest

BTW, did you catch my line about sending the 17000 troops to Afghanistan being the most difficult thing Obama has ever had to do (according to him)?

I am sure that was difficult for him. Maybe he should send himself there too. Now that would be difficult. Of course the troops likely wouldn't want him there.

813 JacksonTn  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:40:24am

re: #809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My best friend made 600 grand last year. This year, he thinks he'll make about, 249,999.00.

I hear ya brother ... we are digging holes in the fields right now ...

By the way FBV ... since you are off today ... don't you have some housecleaning to do? ... I know you love it ...

814 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:40:30am

re: #798 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Off today..."Annie Hall" is on "TCM" In-Demand....

Have never seen it all the way through.

Saying this as a movie fan & not as a Star Wars fan - Star Wars is a better movie & should have won Best Picture for 1977 & not Annie Hall.

815 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:40:32am

re: #811 reine.de.tout

Oh, it's happening.

816 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:40:43am

re: #809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My best friend made 600 grand last year. This year, he thinks he'll make about, 249,999.00.

All this talk about job security reminds me I need to get off the Internet lest I give them a reason to get rid of me.

BBL, folks.

817 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:40:55am

re: #815 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, it's happening.

And can you blame them?

818 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:40:59am

re: #809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My best friend made 600 grand last year. This year, he thinks he'll make about, 249,999.00.

He better be careful or Obama might offer him the post of Secretary of the Treasury.

819 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:41:11am

re: #797 Ward Cleaver

And active.

820 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:41:12am

re: #805 Sharmuta I didn't know that Ace said the Right was going crazy - you sure about that? I'm not surprised that his commenter's felt that way.
Oh and btw, did MandyManners copyright her nic - seems to me I've seen that name somewhere before.......! LOL!

821 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:41:15am

re: #796 reine.de.tout

You asked if you could ask Ace to remove the nic "Mandy Manners".

You can ask - and in fact, I strongly suggest you do contact Ace - but I don't know what he will do, is all I was saying.

They don't require registration - you could go over there right now and fill out the comment form with the nic "Sharmuta" and post a comment.

The lack of registration is what prompted my "what in the world" comment.

I'm not gonna' post there and start a flame war between Ace and LGF but, I will ask him to delete that nic. But, the same person who stole it can just come back with it again and again and again.

Man, this sucks.

822 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:41:30am

re: #801 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So, you no like?

No, I liked her better in Looking for Mr. Goodbar. She gets killed in the end (sorry, spoilers!), which is a bonus. Diane Keaton annoys me.

823 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:41:39am

re: #802 realwest

I'll let you know. The problem is that they found some decay under one of the caps. BBL.

824 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:41:53am

re: #813 JacksonTn

By the way FBV ... since you are off today ... don't you have some housecleaning to do? ... I know you love it ..

Got a head start yesterday. Today? Cleaning carpets.

825 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:42:21am

re: #803 opnion

Yup. I wonder what kind of atonement Steve Kroft will have to make for asking Obama on 60 Minutes , 'Are you punch drunk?"

He should have asked him, "Dude, are you high?"

826 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:43:09am

re: #822 Ward Cleaver

No, I liked her better in Looking for Mr. Goodbar. She gets killed in the end (sorry, spoilers!), which is a bonus. Diane Keaton annoys me.

One of the creepiest movies ever.

827 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:43:28am

re: #821 MandyManners

The lack of registration is what prompted my "what in the world" comment.

I'm not gonna' post there and start a flame war between Ace and LGF but, I will ask him to delete that nic. But, the same person who stole it can just come back with it again and again and again.

Man, this sucks.

I agree there shouldn't be a flame war between Ace and LGF. Seems to be a fair amount of "crossover" between the two.

But I think it would be a good idea to let Ace know that whoever is using the nic 'Mandy Manners" is NOT THE REAL YOU.

Maybe he can do something about it using those character strings I noticed.

828 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:43:47am

re: #825 Ward Cleaver

He should have asked him, "Dude, are you high?"

Sorry I missed this exchange last night. Did Obama start jumping up & down on the chair a la Tom Cruise?

829 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:44:05am

re: #806 OjoeHey Ojoe, I'm sorry to hear that. Seriously - if Obama does set up something like a Federal infrastructure program and all, maybe you can get a job with the feds and get some of your tax money back?!
I do wish you much luck in finding work.

830 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:44:11am

re: #824 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Got a head start yesterday. Today? Cleaning carpets.

I am so proud of you. I spent last weekend breaking in a new Bissell machine. I discovered that we are more disgusting than even I first thought.

831 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:44:27am

re: #828 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Sorry I missed this exchange last night. Did Obama start jumping up & down on the chair a la Tom Cruise?

Fortunately, I missed it, too.

832 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:44:34am

re: #820 realwest

Yes, I'm sure Ace said it- I found it, posted in a comment and Charles made it a thread.

833 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:44:37am

re: #820 realwest

I didn't know that Ace said the Right was going crazy - you sure about that? I'm not surprised that his commenter's felt that way.
Oh and btw, did MandyManners copyright her nic - seems to me I've seen that name somewhere before.......! LOL!

I wish I could laugh but, I can't.

834 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:44:39am

re: #822 Ward Cleaver

No, I liked her better in Looking for Mr. Goodbar. She gets killed in the end (sorry, spoilers!), which is a bonus. Diane Keaton annoys me.

The young Diane Keaton annoys me.

The mature Diane Keaton is great, imo.

835 faraway  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:45:20am
836 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:45:22am
You Know...
Some Republicans are, alas, the exact same sort of unsophisticated angry morons who shout things like "Terrorist" about Obama when McCain is speaking, thus putting him on the extreme defensive, or having temper tantrums on blogs when the proprietor requests they refrain from exposing him to any lawsuits.

They substantially vindicate every stereotype the left and MSM has about us, and make the rest of us not only look bad, but make us squeamish from even being political associates. And they lose us precious votes.

And yet these screamers and tantrum-throwers really think they're the ones helping the team. These malformed, brain-damaged shut-in angry monsters think they've got the right message to carry to the non-deformed, non-retarded demographics.

Wanna know why we're losing? Wanna know why McCain had to make a statement about Obama not being dangerous and being a good and decent man?

Because you geniuses embarrassed him with your stupidity and compelled him to say that.

1% of LGF's commenters embarrassed him greatly and got him widely called a "hate site." Because these fucking imbeciles just thought their scary brilliant pathologies were just too important to not be shared publicly.

99% of readers and commenters are great. It's the 1% of brain-damaged, ignorant mutants that always causes all the embarrassment. On blogs. And at campaign rallies.

And once again: They think they're the ones who have the important messaging which will win over America.

For God's sakes, you embarrass your own would-be political allies. How can you delude yourselves?

At some point, if you really had something valuable to contribute, don't you think someone would have said "Great point, man!" by now?

Can you begin to consider the possibility that you are consistently ignored, and have to resort to shouting "Terrorist" or throwing temper-tantrums on blogs, is because you're a mutant idiot that non-mutants non-idiots just don't have time for? And perhaps you'd best go back to just lurking?

Consider: Earlier today I, a fairly prominent blogger, was pushing the Obama gal-pal story, helping to get it out there.

Now I have deleted it, and will not be posting it again. I'm done with the story.

All because a nasty pathetic wretch of a "man" thought that he would show me by repeatedly spamming a name I'd asked people not to.

Just like with McCain, ready to attack Obama until retards started shouting out "Muslim" and "terrorist' and saying Obama was an "Arab."

So, yellers/mutants:

How do you plan on helping the cause tomorrow? By further so embarrassing leaders and writers into stopping all attacks on Obama?

Brilliant.

~Ace

837 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:45:32am

re: #828 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Sorry I missed this exchange last night. Did Obama start jumping up & down on the chair a la Tom Cruise?

No, the nervous laugh of "gallows humor" after Kroft asked him "Are you punchdrunk?"

Most Lizards saw it as an insult.

I saw it as an ass-kissing FAIL, sort of like "Awwww, you poor thing, working sooo hard".

838 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:45:36am

re: #827 reine.de.tout

I agree there shouldn't be a flame war between Ace and LGF. Seems to be a fair amount of "crossover" between the two.

But I think it would be a good idea to let Ace know that whoever is using the nic 'Mandy Manners" is NOT THE REAL YOU.

Maybe he can do something about it using those character strings I noticed.

I have no idea what those are but, I'm sure he does.

839 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:45:41am

re: #830 OldLineTexan

I am so proud of you. I spent last weekend breaking in a new Bissell machine. I discovered that we are more disgusting than even I first thought.

We've had a Hoover machine for a few years, and it never ceases to amaze me how nasty that water gets.

840 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:46:10am
841 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:46:37am

re: #835 faraway

Brits to replace world’s blood supply using embryonic stem cells. No more blood donations?

Yikes. I can't even imagine how that's going to screw up recipients.

842 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:46:42am

re: #812 Ford_Prefect
LOL! NO! I meant the part where I said that if sending troops from Iraq to Afghanistan was the toughest thing he's had to do as president, then I guess he doesn't sleep with Michelle anymore!
See he's taking troops from one combat zone and sending them to another and.....Oh crap, nevermind. Jokes aren't any fun if ya gotta explain them!

843 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:46:48am

Wow! Annie Hall just got turned off! "Gah" is right!

Just put on Double Indemnity.

844 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:46:54am

re: #829 realwest

Thanks.

845 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:48:55am

re: #840 Iron Fist

Nicjackers are cowardly scum. That's why you'll never see me post with this nic anywhere but here. I've been that way for three or four years now. You just can't spend your time tracking down where half a dozen leftwing whacko's have posted bullshit (and worse; I got banned at Winds of Change until I convinced Joe Katzman that it wasn't me. That one was apparently vile. I never saw it just the aftermath) in your name all across the internet.

I am the same way.
I occasionally post at HotAir or Michelle Malkin, which do require registration, so my nic is mine over there just like it is here.

A person's internet "nic" is as personal as his/her real name. And yes, nicjackers are cowardly scum.

846 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:49:20am
He spent the weekend at Camp David with his family, skipping the Saturday night event because he was busy preparing for Easter, Biden said.

"He thinks it's about him," Biden said of the holiday.


That was funny.

847 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:49:33am

Later folks, try to have a good Monday!

848 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:50:15am

re: #843 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow! Annie Hall just got turned off! "Gah" is right!

Just put on Double Indemnity.

I can't help laughing when I see Fred MacMurray as a killer. After seeing My Three Sons, I can't go there. The movie is great, though, and Miss Barbara Stanwyk's treachery is believable.

849 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:50:16am

re: #843 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow! Annie Hall just got turned off! "Gah" is right!

Just put on Double Indemnity.

Awesome movie. Anyone who grew up watching re-runs of "My Three Sons" (like me) will be shocked to see Fred MacMurray play such a scumbag.

850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:50:18am

re: #845 reine.de.tout

Someone would probably only use FBV to hijack mine.

But, why would they want to?

Why am I asking you?

851 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:51:11am

re: #849 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Awesome movie. Anyone who grew up watching re-runs of "My Three Sons" (like me) will be shocked to see Fred MacMurray play such a scumbag.

GMTA.

852 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:51:30am
He also sent a letter to Italian President Giorgio Napolitano (a member of the now defunct Communist Party), expressing confidence that the United States and Italy would work together “to overcome the current global political and economic hardships and build a safer world.” The only problem with the letter was that the Italian president does not make policy; that power resides with the prime minister and his cabinet.

ugh.

853 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:51:41am

ACORN under fire.... talking a full investigation

[Link: www.humanevents.com...]

854 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:52:10am

re: #842 realwest

OK, this time I went back and read your comment. Upding.

855 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:52:29am

I smell something fishy here. At an art show this past weekend there was a group scattered about, my guess is ACORN, that was getting petitions signed for a ballot initiative regarding redistricting here in FL. They were well organized, well spoken and getting plenty of signitures.

I can't quite put my finger on it, but it stinks.

856 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:53:04am

re: #830 OldLineTexan

re: #839 Ward Cleaver

I am convinced that there are some cleaning tools that cause us to become "cleanliness obsessed".

Studies have indicated that a the best deterrence to developing allergies is to have a little brother, or pets (or both).

Not sure how well that works, I had 3 little brothers and still have allergies.

857 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:53:24am

re: #839 Ward Cleaver

We've had a Hoover machine for a few years, and it never ceases to amaze me how nasty that water gets.

I think they hide dirt pellets in the inaccessible parts of the machine.

858 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:54:03am

re: #809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My best friend made 600 grand last year. This year, he thinks he'll REPORT makeing about, 249,999.00.

Obamas Tax Policy,,,, forcing good Americans to cheat on their returns since 2009!

859 faraway  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:54:09am

re: #836 Sharmuta

This is idiotic thinking. Every party has nuts. You will never be nut-free. Of course, you must have a communications strategy to deal with them.

We worry about someone allegedly yelling terrorist at a rally and the Dems attend DailyKos conventions.

860 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:54:12am

re: #850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Someone would probably only use FBV to hijack mine.

But, why would they want to?

Why am I asking you?

Dunno why you're asking me. Perhaps because no one would jack my nic either.

861 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:54:26am

re: #857 OldLineTexan

I think they hide dirt pellets in the inaccessible parts of the machine.

My little dog hides little yellow stains in the inaccessible parts of his "machine".

862 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:55:09am

re: #832 Sharmuta Huh, I didn't remember that, probably cause Ace DIDN'T say that the Right blah blah blah, but that 1% of the posters here said blah, blah blah.
1% of the posters here at any one time are nuts anyway, in spite of Chrarles and the Lizard Monitors doing what they can.
And when speaking about an individual like Obama, I'm sure that 1% rises too.

863 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:56:47am

re: #855 filetandrelease

From the link:

Districts would have to be compact and utilize existing political and geographical boundaries.

What exactly is an existing political boundary? And how is drawing a district line there not favoring one party over another?

864 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:56:57am

re: #807 albusteve

none at all unless he wants to....fuck BO...he's just a guy


I'm thinking that CBS Mgt might not want Obama pissed.
Coach K at Duke back peddled.

865 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:57:03am

re: #862 realwest

Not gonna make a distinction between crazy nuts, and those of us nuts that are just crazy :P

866 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:57:06am

re: #856 reine.de.tout

re: #839 Ward Cleaver

I am convinced that there are some cleaning tools that cause us to become "cleanliness obsessed".

Studies have indicated that a the best deterrence to developing allergies is to have a little brother, or pets (or both).

Not sure how well that works, I had 3 little brothers and still have allergies.

I don't use it for allergy control, but it helps tremendously with the damage the kids and the dogs do to the carpets and rugs. I can't imagine allergies being helped by wetting the rugs and hoping they didn't mildew (which is kind of how I feel about it). Plus it gives me that false feeling of cleanliness that is so important.

/

867 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:57:13am

re: #859 faraway

Except our few nuts get used to tar the entire party thanks to the msm while the nuts on the left are ignored by them. It's not fair, but that's how the game's getting played. Besides- Ace is free to express his opinion on the matter, and I thought his rant that night was spot on.

868 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:57:15am

re: #861 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My little dog hides little yellow stains in the inaccessible parts of his "machine".

I got rid of all the carpeting in my house, now have wood or laminate flooring throughout, with some very cheap area rugs that I can simply toss when they get too yucky.

Have you ever pulled up a carpet in your house and seen what's underneath?

869 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:57:31am

Interesting op-ed in the Boston Herald. Nothing we don't know, but I like the title:
People still being sacrificed to climate god

870 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:58:12am

re: #861 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My little dog hides little yellow stains in the inaccessible parts of his "machine".

Your dog and my dog OBVIOUSLY share a common ancestor.

/

871 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:59:21am

re: #833 MandyManners
Mandy - I AM sorry you got nic-jacked but there isn't much you can do except, as reine said, e-mail Ace and alert him.
I've been nicjacked too and know how you feel. I once had the not altogether fun time of watching "realwest" debating someone on another blog (which shall go unnamed) and the other person was defending the postitions I normally defend but not doing a very good job of it - and since I couldn't log on as realwest cause the fake one was already on there, all I could do was watch and take notes to try to figure out who it was but I never got anywhere with it.
Also wrote to the blogmaster and never even got a reply.

872 Wishing  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:59:40am

Market is up about 170 points.

873 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:59:41am

re: #863 Ford_Prefect

From the link:


What exactly is an existing political boundary? And how is drawing a district line there not favoring one party over another?

They make it sound so reasonable that plenty were signing. But even their web site doesn't have the actual ballot, only the summary. The devil is in the details. So lets hide it.

874 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:59:47am

re: #866 OldLineTexan

I don't use it for allergy control, but it helps tremendously with the damage the kids and the dogs do to the carpets and rugs. I can't imagine allergies being helped by wetting the rugs and hoping they didn't mildew (which is kind of how I feel about it). Plus it gives me that false feeling of cleanliness that is so important.

/

False feeling of cleanliness! LOL. Well, I know about that.

Actually studies showed that the immune systems of kids who grow up in a pristine environment have nothing to react to, and so allergies develop as the immune system tries to do what it's supposed to do.

What that tells me is . . . don't sweat the small stuff, if your home is not super-clean, it will be OK.

875 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 6:59:58am

re: #864 opnion

I'm thinking that CBS Mgt might not want Obama pissed.
Coach K at Duke back peddled.

to hell with them...and coach K...if you can't speak out for fear of retribution what the hell is left?

876 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:00:04am

Some Gazans are going to be frustrated:
Egypt seizes TNT, sheep on way to Gaza
What's worse to them? Not being able to blow up Jews, or not having any sheep?

877 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:00:10am

Barbara Stanwyk? ROWR!

878 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:00:15am

re: #862 realwest

Ace called these people "yellers/mutants". In fact- he had a number of names for these people.

879 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:00:16am

re: #872 Wishing

Market is up about 170 points.

Obama must not be awake yet.

880 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:01:23am

re: #879 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Obama must not be awake yet.

Technically, I doubt the 0 is ever truly awake.

881 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:01:24am
882 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:01:30am

re: #879 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Obama Geithner must not be awake yet.

FIFY

883 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:01:50am

re: #855 filetandrelease

And did you see the list of "Coalition Partners"? Here are a few:

League of Women Voters
AFSCME
AFL-CIO
FEA
SEIU
ACORN
Machinists Union
United Auto Workers

you are who you associate with. Unless you are Obama of course.

884 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:02:05am

re: #876 Kosh's Shadow

Some Gazans are going to be frustrated:
Egypt seizes TNT, sheep on way to Gaza
What's worse to them? Not being able to blow up Jews, or not having any sheep?

There are going to be some frustrated men in Gaza!

885 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:02:35am

re: #868 reine.de.tout

I got rid of all the carpeting in my house, now have wood or laminate flooring throughout, with some very cheap area rugs that I can simply toss when they get too yucky.

Have you ever pulled up a carpet in your house and seen what's underneath?

Once, when we had a cat that suddenly went psycho after five years of perfectly acceptable behavior. I pulled up a corner of the dining room carpet, and ended up sealing the concrete to contain the damage.

Most of our downstairs is tile and wood, and the master bedroom carpet is on borrowed time, thanks in part to Mrs. Texan's spending spree late last year and delayed further by the economy. I just can't get excited enough to drop the money when I may need it for cheap cat food and other meals. ;)

886 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:02:59am

re: #883 Ford_Prefect

And did you see the list of "Coalition Partners"? Here are a few:

League of Women Voters
AFSCME
AFL-CIO
FEA
SEIU
ACORN
Machinists Union
United Auto Workers

you are who you associate with. Unless you are Obama of course.

Yeah, that is an eye opener.

887 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:03:13am

re: #840 Iron Fist
Good moring bro' - yep, I remember you're telling us that at the time. And I'm sure you've been nicjacked before (and maybe me too) and since.
Just nothing you can do to protect your ID except, as you said, just use your LGF nic ONLY on LGF.
And cowardly scum is very mild for you - y'all had some coffee yet?!

888 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:03:32am

re: #856 reine.de.tout

The clean freaks are just freaks. I say-let the kids eat dirt, don't freak out about boogers, etc...I hate Momzillas.

889 faraway  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:04:19am

re: #878 Sharmuta

Ace called these people "yellers/mutants". In fact- he had a number of names for these people.

Remember the nut yelling "kill him" at a McCain rally?

Turns out Olbermann's boy Dana Milbank was the only one to hear it. The Secret Service determined the person yelled "tell him".

890 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:04:21am
891 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:04:23am

re: #755 MandyManners

You got nick-jacked? Sure you can ask the owner of a blog about that...just send an e-mail.

892 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:04:43am

re: #876 Kosh's Shadow

Some Gazans are going to be frustrated:
Egypt seizes TNT, sheep on way to Gaza
What's worse to them? Not being able to blow up Jews, or not having any sheep?

Not being able to blow sheep, maybe?

893 faraway  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:05:00am

So, even if you get rid of the nuts, the libs will just plain make up stuff.

894 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:05:17am

re: #885 OldLineTexan

Once, when we had a cat that suddenly went psycho after five years of perfectly acceptable behavior. I pulled up a corner of the dining room carpet, and ended up sealing the concrete to contain the damage.

Most of our downstairs is tile and wood, and the master bedroom carpet is on borrowed time, thanks in part to Mrs. Texan's spending spree late last year and delayed further by the economy. I just can't get excited enough to drop the money when I may need it for cheap cat food and other meals. ;)

The snap-together flooring is easy to install yourself.
There are wood and laminate products.

895 Randall Gross  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:06:33am

Drive by:
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

A bomb squad was called to the Lev Hamifratz shopping center after a small explosion, possibly a detonation charge, inside a Subaru in the mall's parking lot, according to police.

Police found what an official said were roughly 200 pounds of explosives that had failed to detonate. The amount was enough to have caused a devastating blast at a time when the popular mall was crowded following the end of the Jewish Sabbath. The device was packed with ball bearings, according to police. There were no reported arrests as of late Sunday night.

Police spokesman Mickey Rosenfeld said that the car had been stolen from East Jerusalem and that officials are trying to determine the source of the explosives and the route traveled by those responsible. The fact that the explosives-laden vehicle was able to enter a major civilian area deep inside Israel without detection constituted a major breach of Israel's normally tight security system.

896 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:07:02am

re: #889 faraway

Yes, I remember. You're missing the point.

It's our responsibility to police our own for freaks. Pointing to freaks on the left isn't going to stop our freaks, and it's a fallacious argument to make anyways.

897 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:07:27am

good op ed about BO and the ME

[Link: www.spectator.co.uk...]

898 avanti  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:07:33am

Early indications are that Wall St likes the new Geithner plan to buy up toxic assets. ( Now "Legacy" assets.) Market is pushing toward 200 points up.

899 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:07:37am

re: #844 Ojoe Hey Ojoe - no need to thank me, I just wish I knew some folks out that way who could use your serices but you seriously might be able to get a job if the Feds ever really do get around to building stuff instead of funding studies of cow flatulence. Keep your eyes open for it, cause out of the $900 BILLION or so left over in Obama's budget after deducting the "down payment" of $690 BILLION for National Healthcare there seriously could be some coin rattling around to do some good work with and why shouldn't you get those jobs and that income?

900 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:07:43am

re: #894 reine.de.tout

The snap-together flooring is easy to install yourself.
There are wood and laminate products.

Great suggestions, but I have even passed up the "do-it-yourself" stuff just out of miserliness at this point. I was just on the edge of doing it when The Boss decided she needed to replace hundreds of dollars of linens basically at once (at least from my POV, LOL). Not a bill I anticipated or wanted. I'm not pleading poverty, but there's a time to hold your fire, and I think this is it!

901 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:08:00am

The Golden Child really did send Chirac a letter.

Our Harvard educated dumbass in chief lives in his own little world. He has wonderful ties to the Islamists trying overthrow the elected government of Kenya to impose Sharia law against the wises of the majority of Kenyans; why he serially violated the Logan act as a sitting member of the US Senate and insinuated himself into the middle of Kenyan politics.

Confidentiel : Barack Obama
a écrit à Jacques Chirac

19/03/2009 %P% Mise à jour : 09:14 %P% Commentaires 84 %P% Ajouter à ma sélection
Retrouvez tous les confidentiels de la rédaction du Figaro.

Barack Obama a écrit à Jacques Chirac

Le président américain vient d'adresser une lettre «très sympathique » à Jacques Chirac, selon l'expression de ce dernier. «Je suis certain que nous pourrons au cours des quatre années à venir collaborer ensemble dans un esprit de paix et d'amitié afin de construire un monde plus sûr» , écrit le successeur de George W. Bush au prédécesseur de Nicolas Sarkozy. En évoquant le mot de « paix», Obama rend un hommage implicite à l'action de l'ancien président français qui s'était opposé à la guerre en Irak. Une intervention américaine contre laquelle le futur président américain s'était opposé comme sénateur, lors du vote au Congrès.

Translation (I fixed the syntax from babelfish):

Barack Obama wrote to Jacques Chirac

The US president sent a very nice letter addressed to Jacques Chirac, that is reported to express: “I am certain that we will be able to collaborate together in a spirit of peace during the four years to come in order to build a secure world”, wrote the successor of George W. Bush to the predecessor of Nicolas Sarkozy. While evoking the word of “peace”, Obama pays a homage to the former French president who was opposed to the war in Iraq. An American intervention which the future US president was opposed as a senator, at the time of the vote to the Congress.

John McCain would not have made this mistake. He probably still would have sent a cordial letter to Chirac just to keep that line of communication open (John would do that).

What we see here is an IGNORANT PRESIDENT. In unprecedented challenging time. He insults the current President of France, makes all of us look stupid in the process, he is, after all, supposed to be the intelligent American. France is one of the 5 permanent members of the UN security council and a critical player in EU and international politics. In other words, they are an important actor on the world stage.

But it gets better. Genius writes the letter. Either genius is so smart he does not have to have anyone else look at his letter before he sends it OR his subgeniuses (sorry had to use the term) saw it and did not see the error or were afraid to point out the error to the One. In either respect, you have an utter tyro with no system in place to deal with basic international operations.

This means that the received wisdom from his advisers and whatever international experience he has lurking below his demonstrated ignorance and ineptness is how this man does foreign relations.

For those concerned about international economic cooperation during a crisis, fighting terrorism and facing challenges, your ship has left the port! Sadly, without a functioning Captain and a very shaky crew.

This is the kind of idiocy that green lights aggression by the bad actors of the world- they can clearly see this fool doesn't even know who to call in a crisis.

Obama in one weekend irredeemably embarrassed himself on the world stage with his letter and his Special Olympics comment at home. He keep shooting torpedoes but seems not to understand he is shooting at himself.

Barely two months on the job and he is showing signs of sinking himself before he starts.

902 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:08:37am
903 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:08:38am

re: #893 faraway

So, even if you get rid of the nuts, the libs will just plain make up stuff.

You're missing the point, but you go ahead and embrace the crazies and see what it gets you.

904 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:08:56am

re: #855 filetandrelease

I smell something fishy here. At an art show this past weekend there was a group scattered about, my guess is ACORN, that was getting petitions signed for a ballot initiative regarding redistricting here in FL. They were well organized, well spoken and getting plenty of signitures.

I can't quite put my finger on it, but it stinks.

How about the 'Organizing for America " group?
They are contacting Obama supporters asking them to take a pledge to support Obama! The cadres are active Comrade.

905 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:09:44am

re: #896 Sharmuta

Yes, I remember. You're missing the point.

It's our responsibility to police our own for freaks. Pointing to freaks on the left isn't going to stop our freaks, and it's a fallacious argument to make anyways.

The case in point was a manufactured story by their freaks and the MSM.

We can police "our" freaks ... now, are we not allowed to point out these fabrications? We have enough real freaks without letting the "other side" manufacture them un-rebutted.

I truly despise American "politics" these days.

906 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:09:49am

re: #900 OldLineTexan

Great suggestions, but I have even passed up the "do-it-yourself" stuff just out of miserliness at this point. I was just on the edge of doing it when The Boss decided she needed to replace hundreds of dollars of linens basically at once (at least from my POV, LOL). Not a bill I anticipated or wanted. I'm not pleading poverty, but there's a time to hold your fire, and I think this is it!

Ah, now, the Boss knows what she is doing!

At least, in my house I know what I'm doing, and I assure you, there are reasons for certain decisions that are not obvious to the under-Boss!
LOL!

907 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:10:01am
908 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:10:36am

re: #830 OldLineTexan

I am so proud of you. I spent last weekend breaking in a new Bissell machine. I discovered that we are more disgusting than even I first thought.

Good morning.

Stray thought: Latin Americans, speaking very, very generally, tend to eschew wall-to-wall carpeting, and based on my entirely unscientific, anecdotal evidence, it's because they think carpeting is inherently dirty (preferring hardwood floors which can be scrubbed). While I personally like carpeting, I think they may be on to something there.

909 faraway  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:10:41am

re: #896 Sharmuta

Yes, I remember. You're missing the point.

It's our responsibility to police our own for freaks. Pointing to freaks on the left isn't going to stop our freaks, and it's a fallacious argument to make anyways.

You're missing the point. Of course, everything you said is true - it goes without saying. You can't go insane when you hear someone yell something at a rally. The further point is that you will never be nut-free and you must accept that and be ready to deal with it when the attacks come.

910 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:10:41am

re: #901 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Nothing personal, AG; I am still incredulous.

911 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:10:50am

re: #898 avanti

Early indications are that Wall St likes the new Geithner plan to buy up toxic assets. ( Now "Legacy" assets.) Market is pushing toward 200 points up.

In other news, pigs are to be renamed "shiny sheep", opening new markets in the Middle East.

912 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:11:33am

re: #876 Kosh's Shadow

Some Gazans are going to be frustrated:
Egypt seizes TNT, sheep on way to Gaza
What's worse to them? Not being able to blow up Jews, or not having any sheep?

TNT and sheep?

How about Dirty Deeds done with Sheep?

913 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:11:33am

re: #908 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

Stray thought: Latin Americans, speaking very, very generally, tend to eschew wall-to-wall carpeting, and based on my entirely unscientific, anecdotal evidence, it's because they think carpeting is inherently dirty (preferring hardwood floors which can be scrubbed). While I personally like carpeting, I think they may be on to something there.

No, they are definitely right. ESPECIALLY the cheap grades that "come with the house".

914 JacksonTn  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:11:35am

re: #907 buzzsawmonkey

I can't wait until Obama gives Sarkozy a brick of Velveeta as a gift in the course of a state visit.

Sarkozy ... like everyone else will be getting Government Issue Cheese ...but Sarkozy will not have to stand in line for his ...

915 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:11:42am

Somebody tell the 0 that sucking up to Iran isn't going to work:
Iran targets the US

Teheran would use its nuclear power/threat, first and foremost, to force the US and NATO out of the Gulf and the Indian Ocean. It would then turn it against Iraq - its arch rival since the seventh century - and against Saudi Arabia, which is considered an apostate regime. All Gulf states are perceived by Iran as a key prize, required in order to control the flow and the price of oil and to bankroll its megalomaniac regional and global aspirations (e.g. leading Islam's drive to dominate the globe).

The Jewish state constitutes a non-Gulf basin target for Iran, not a primary target.


The gist of the article is that Iran wants hegemony over the Gulf and oil; Israel is only a secondary target. But a powerful Israel helps protect the US as well.
Well, the US is the "Great Satan"; Israel is only the "Little Satan".

However, as for getting the 0 to listen to this, I'm too busy giving singing lessons to a pig.

916 faraway  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:11:49am

re: #903 Sharmuta

You're missing the point, but you go ahead and embrace the crazies and see what it gets you.

Good smear attempt. I don't embrace crazies.

917 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:12:13am

re: #905 OldLineTexan

We can police "our" freaks ... now, are we not allowed to point out these fabrications? We have enough real freaks without letting the "other side" manufacture them un-rebutted.

Show me where I said we couldn't refute the manufactured crazies. My point is faraway's tu quo que is a fallacy. It's not intellectually honest.

918 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:12:19am

re: #875 albusteve

to hell with them...and coach K...if you can't speak out for fear of retribution what the hell is left?


Exactly, people are intimidated. Obama has attack dogs including the IRS.
IMO he is a totalitarian at heart & just needs to be ridiculed as much as possibel. Make the guy a punch line & held up to scorn, you know turn it around.

919 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:12:40am

re: #907 buzzsawmonkey

I can't wait until Obama gives Sarkozy a brick of Velveeta as a gift in the course of a state visit.

Brick? No, Obama will show Sarko how cheese should really be delivered.

920 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:12:46am
921 UFO TOFU  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:12:52am

Met an interesting new customer Friday. Wanted a bus Saturday to take a group of kids from the local air force base to Coronado Island. The group was part of US Naval Sea Cadet Corps. At the island they took the driver with them onto the USS Nimitz. They cruised out a hundred miles, had fighter planes flying over, other planes dropping explosives, frog men jumping out of helicopters, planes launching from the deck, quite a show. The driver got to tour the ship with them, ride the air craft elevator, and share a tri tip buffet. The driver was pretty jazzed, said she would have driven it for free if she had known. I wish I would have done it myself.

922 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:12:52am

re: #906 reine.de.tout

No, my wife is certifiable.

/

923 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:13:00am

re: #901 Ayatollah Ghilmeini


Impossible. obama is so educated, he sucks any of your education into himself. A harvard grad, you just couldn't comprehend what he knows. He's forgotten more than you will ever know. Just ask avanti. Now there's someone who's punch drunk.

924 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:13:30am

re: #919 Occasional Reader

Brick? No, Obama will show Sarko how cheese should really be delivered.

All food should be available in aerosol format.

925 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:13:55am

re: #909 faraway

You're missing the point. Of course, everything you said is true - it goes without saying. You can't go insane when you hear someone yell something at a rally. The further point is that you will never be nut-free and you must accept that and be ready to deal with it when the attacks come.

And when John McCain did that, loads of people on the right condemned him for it.

926 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:14:02am

re: #917 Sharmuta

Show me where I said we couldn't refute the manufactured crazies. My point is faraway's tu quo que is a fallacy. It's not intellectually honest.

My point is that faraway IMO was NOT invoking that argument in that post. Whatever.

927 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:14:04am

re: #913 OldLineTexan

No, they are definitely right. ESPECIALLY the cheap grades that "come with the house".

ABAJO EL ALFOMBRA!

VIVA EL PARQUET!

928 avanti  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:14:06am

re: #911 OldLineTexan

In other news, pigs are to be renamed "shiny sheep", opening new markets in the Middle East.

Yea gotta love some of the euphemisms they come up with. I wonder if they have a department of euphemisms just to deal with coming up with new ones.

929 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:14:20am

re: #907 buzzsawmonkey

I can't wait until Obama gives Sarkozy a brick of Velveeta as a gift in the course of a state visit.

And some Gallo wine.

930 JacksonTn  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:14:25am

re: #923 rightside

Impossible. obama is so educated, he sucks any of your education into himself. A harvard grad, you just couldn't comprehend what he knows. He's forgotten more than you will ever know. Just ask avanti. Now there's someone who's punch drunk.

I am not a troofer .... but until I see his records from Harvard ... he could have been a janitor for all I know ...

931 Hhar  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:14:50am

It was bad enough that The Lancet published a fraudulent study of Iraqi deaths due to the war there, or even that the New England Journal of Medecine engaged in some rather one sided hand-wringing with regard to Guantanamo bay, but take a look at the Canadian Medical Association Journal, which here:

[Link: www.cmaj.ca...]

talks about how those evil Israelis have shelled Gaza's hospitals, and then quotes two Palestinian MDs here:

[Link: www.cmaj.ca...]

telling us about how awful it has all been, and all the time both articles completely to even print the word "Hamas". Its amazing that even a backwater professional journal, albeit a usually respectable one, gets filled with this total crap. I wrote a letter in reply last week, but for some reason it hasn't been published yet. I imagine they will get some more.

932 Wishing  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:14:55am

re: #901 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I think this is SATIRE, not FACT.

933 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:15:21am

re: #912 MandyManners

TNT and sheep?

How about Dirty Deeds done with Sheep?


[Video]

Thank ewe.

934 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:15:40am

re: #907 buzzsawmonkey

I can't wait until Obama gives Sarkozy a brick of Velveeta as a gift in the course of a state visit.

And, a can of Cheez Whiz!

935 Dustoff-507  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:16:18am

Ok, I'm up, where's the damn coffee and who took my roll?

Jezzz it's Monday... (-:

936 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:16:27am
937 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:16:42am

re: #917 Sharmuta

Show me where I said we couldn't refute the manufactured crazies.

Right there! In that bolded part.

/

938 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:17:12am

re: #934 MandyManners

And, a can of Cheez Whiz!

And French fries served with French dressing.

939 Macker  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:17:35am

re: #884 filetandrelease

There are going to be some frustrated men in Gaza!

Not to mention Dhimmi Carter and Bill Clinton. After all, sheep don't talk!
GOOD MORNING LIZARDS!

940 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:17:50am

re: #930 JacksonTn

I am not a troofer .... but until I see his records from Harvard ... he could have been a janitor for all I know ...

I would settle for one Law Review article.

941 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:18:20am

re: #926 OldLineTexan

My point is that faraway IMO was NOT invoking that argument in that post. Whatever.

Whatever indeed. McCain got trashed by the right for dealing with a crazy woman at a rally.

942 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:18:32am

re: #939 Macker

Not to mention Dhimmi Carter and Bill Clinton. After all, sheep don't talk!
GOOD MORNING LIZARDS!

Which reminds me of a joke -
Why does Michael Jackson have a monkey?

Monkeys can't testify.

943 Macker  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:19:11am

re: #892 OldLineTexan

Not being able to blow sheep, maybe?

Perhaps that was the reason Cavil offed himself...NAHHHHHH!

944 Gella  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:19:24am

good morning :)

945 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:19:27am

re: #919 Occasional Reader

Brick? No, Obama will show Sarko how cheese should really be delivered.

Shoot. You beat me to it, you fiendish devil, you.

946 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:19:42am

re: #785 realwest

Good morning Ford! Yep, probably will. But it's gonna be a cold day in Alaska when Obama sends in FEMA (and yes I KNOW Alaska has more than it's share of cold days, but we're coming into the Alaska summer, so their on their own up there!
BTW, did you catch my line about sending the 17000 troops to Afghanistan being the most difficult thing Obama has ever had to do (according to him)?

Apparently dealing a death blow to capitalism comes quite easily to him.

947 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:19:55am

re: #853 albusteve
Great post, but from your link:

When these allegations began to surface in hearing testimony, Conyers suddenly appeared at the subcommittee hearing and asked to be recognized, saying that he was “… unaware that this was a hearing on ACORN.” Conyers probed those assembled, asking if any representatives of ACORN were present to defend the organization. Conyers called the accusations made against ACORN a “pretty serious matter.” When no one from ACORN came forth, he asked subcommittee chairman Nadler to hold a hearing on ACORN so the organization could defend itself, to which a shocked Nadler replied, “I’ll take it under advisement.”

Conyers pressed the matter, saying, “I think that it would be something that would be worth our time. We've never had one person representing ACORN before the committee. ... I think in all fairness we ought to really examine it.” An exasperated Nadler said he would hold a hearing when he had “credible allegations of misconduct.”

Nadler abruptly dismissed the panel shortly thereafter.

Jerome Nadler used to be my congresscritter - not that I ever voted for him - and when he said he'd take it under advisement that means NOTHING is gonna happen . And Conyers wanted the hearings only so someone from ACORN could show up and lie through their teeth and make the Democratic members of Congress feel all good about giving ACORN a chunk of change to work with the Census bureau (contrary to Obama and popular belief, there is a federal law on the books that says only CONGRESS can choose who does the Census, Not the POTUS).
In other words, if it - the hearings - ever take place - which I doubt, they're only purpose will be to make ACORN look good or at least not as bad as they are.

948 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:19:55am

re: #940 opnion


He had to lower himself to the position on POTUS, don't make him lower himself further to actually write an opinion. You're simply not as intelligent, suave and debonair as he is.

949 Macker  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:20:12am

re: #942 Kosh's Shadow

Which reminds me of a joke -
Why does Michael Jackson have a monkey?

Monkeys can't testify.

In the USA, perhaps. I dunno about the European Union though....

950 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:20:31am

re: #938 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And French fries served with French dressing.

My taste buds are threatening to leave.

951 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:20:38am

re: #940 opnion

I would settle for one Law Review article.

Uh, folks, you're seriously floating a conspiracy theory that Obama did not actually attend Harvard Law School, are you?

952 Dustoff-507  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:20:42am

re: #942 Kosh's Shadow

Monkeys can't testify.

Not yet, but give these fools enought time. 0-:

953 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:21:11am

re: #933 Kosh's Shadow

Thank ewe.

I was goated into posting that video.

954 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:21:40am

re: #950 MandyManners

After eating chili and chocolate?

955 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:21:58am

re: #936 buzzsawmonkey

Well, he did say on 60 Minutes--did he not?--that he was into Gallo's humor.

I wonder if he yuks it up with Senator Saxby Chablis.

956 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:22:51am

re: #933 Kosh's Shadow

Ewe're sick.

957 JacksonTn  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:23:12am

re: #951 Occasional Reader

Uh, folks, you're seriously floating a conspiracy theory that Obama did not actually attend Harvard Law School, are you?

No we are not ... but is it too much to ask to see his records? I totally believe he went to Harvard ... I would like to know how he got in and see his records ... he is the President ... we should have had access to those records ...

958 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:23:19am

re: #954 rightside

After eating chili and chocolate?

It was good.

959 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:23:20am

Maybe I'm the only person who recalls the right's reaction to McCain dealing with that crazy, bigoted woman in red. They didn't condemn her, they attacked McCain.

I'd like to think I wasn't the only person who thought perhaps a more proactive effort would keep more of the crazies away instead of playing defense on the issue.

960 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:23:31am

re: #947 realwest

Great post, but from your link:

Jerome Nadler used to be my congresscritter - not that I ever voted for him - and when he said he'd take it under advisement that means NOTHING is gonna happen . And Conyers wanted the hearings only so someone from ACORN could show up and lie through their teeth and make the Democratic members of Congress feel all good about giving ACORN a chunk of change to work with the Census bureau (contrary to Obama and popular belief, there is a federal law on the books that says only CONGRESS can choose who does the Census, Not the POTUS).
In other words, if it - the hearings - ever take place - which I doubt, they're only purpose will be to make ACORN look good or at least not as bad as they are.

that's certainly the downside...but I presume the hearings would be bipartisan, if that makes any difference....and these are some serious allegations and one would hope that the facts speak for themselves

961 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:23:48am

re: #958 MandyManners

It was good.

So are mayonaise and rhubarb omelettes.

962 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:24:12am

re: #907 buzzsawmonkey

I can't wait until Obama gives Sarkozy a brick of Velveeta as a gift in the course of a state visit.

As proud of the fact his mother was on food stamps as he was, I doubt 0bama will willingly give up that government subsidized cheese.

963 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:24:37am
964 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:24:45am

re: #951 Occasional Reader

I don't think anyone is questioning that-it's the utter absence of any scholarly publications that is really odd for someone so advanced, so brilliant, etc....did he release his marks? Isn't that standard procedure for presidents and VPs?

965 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:24:48am

re: #959 Sharmuta

Maybe I'm the only person who recalls the right's reaction to McCain dealing with that crazy, bigoted woman in red. They didn't condemn her, they attacked McCain.

I thought he handled that well, actually. But caution about using "the right" in such a sweeping way.

966 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:24:50am

re: #961 rightside

uh.....can I see a recipie for that before I judge?

967 Macker  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:24:59am

re: #960 albusteve

Bipartisanship to the Demo☭rats is telling the Republicans to STFU.

968 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:25:12am

McCain smacked down a crazy and was attacked for it. I could really use that rational political party alternative right about now.

969 faraway  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:25:52am

re: #959 Sharmuta

Maybe I'm the only person who recalls the right's reaction to McCain dealing with that crazy, bigoted woman in red. They didn't condemn her, they attacked McCain.

I'd like to think I wasn't the only person who thought perhaps a more proactive effort would keep more of the crazies away instead of playing defense on the issue.

I agree, no more defense. Attack.

970 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:26:27am

Did you guys hear about a show on Fox that allegedly insulted the Canadian army's work in Afghanistan? There is apparently a clip circulating from the (?) Red Eye-not sure about the name-show and this comes just as 4 more Canadian soldiers are to be repatriated to Canada today from Afghanistan...

971 avanti  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:26:32am

re: #951 Occasional Reader

Uh, folks, you're seriously floating a conspiracy theory that Obama did not actually attend Harvard Law School, are you?

He graduated with honors, that should defuse the issue. Like the birth certificate issue, he's better off not releasing anything and letting the fringe right beat the issue to death.

972 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:26:33am

re: #964 WriterMom

did he release his marks?

You're demanding to see Obama's marks, are you? The wounds in his wrists and feet, the scar from the lance in his side? Doubting Thomas!

973 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:26:37am

re: #968 Sharmuta

IIRC, The lady in red made the mistake of going after the "O" for being a Muslim. Perhaps if she had called him a "Fucking Commie Bastard"...

974 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:26:43am

re: #967 Macker

Bipartisanship to the Demo☭rats is telling the Republicans to STFU.

tora tora tora...

975 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:26:47am

Good morning lizards. How is everyone today?

976 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:26:52am

re: #878 Sharmuta I'm sure but he did say that 1% at LGF........ - and you and I have both been around long enough to know that, in spite of Charles' constant vigilence, probably more than 1% are yellers/mutants when it comes to Obama.
There is a limit to what even the most attentive blogmasters can do to limit those kinds, especially if they want their blogs to be (relatively) examples of free speech.

977 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:27:30am

re: #971 avanti

He graduated with honors, that should defuse the issue. Like the birth certificate issue, he's better off not releasing anything and letting the fringe right beat the issue to death.


Thank you Mr. press secretary.

978 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:27:46am

re: #965 Occasional Reader

I thought he handled that well, actually. But caution about using "the right" in such a sweeping way.

I thought he handled it as best he could too. And I'd be more cautious about my language, but the amount of people who supported McCain's actions at that time were so small, it seemed fair enough to not qualify it.

979 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:27:54am

re: #972 Occasional Reader

We've already suffered through Michelle's illiterate affirmative action "thesis", on the blackness of being black at a black-minority whitey university. How bad could his stuff be?

/killing myself lauging in anticipation...

980 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:28:07am
981 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:28:31am

re: #976 realwest

He wasn't talking about LGF- he used LGF as an example. Go back and read it again.

982 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:28:32am

re: #970 WriterMom

Did you guys hear about a show on Fox that allegedly insulted the Canadian army's work in Afghanistan? There is apparently a clip circulating from the (?) Red Eye-not sure about the name-show and this comes just as 4 more Canadian soldiers are to be repatriated to Canada today from Afghanistan...

The show is "Red Eye" and is a late-night show.

There was something about this at Ace of Spades yesterday, but this is one of their "disappearing" posts. It's not clear to me that whoever posted about it had the story straight or was clear about it.

983 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:28:35am

re: #963 buzzsawmonkey

Would Obama condescend to participate in a white whine?

Hey, that's not fair, Obama has nominated many white people to Cabernet positions.

984 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:28:47am

re: #971 avanti

He graduated with honors, that should defuse the issue. Like the birth certificate issue, he's better off not releasing anything and letting the fringe right beat the issue to death.

honors from Harvard mean nothing...way less than Honors from say GVSC where mu daughter went to school...Harvard hands out Honors like candy

985 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:29:13am

re: #983 Occasional Reader

OH-gooooood one.

986 Dustoff-507  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:29:36am

re: #961 rightside

So are mayonaise and rhubarb omelettes.

HEY,,,, are you TRYING to make me sick! (-:

987 faraway  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:29:45am

re: #968 Sharmuta

McCain smacked down a crazy and was attacked for it. I could really use that rational political party alternative right about now.

McCain was attacked for NOT attacking Obama.

988 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:30:25am
989 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:30:29am
990 Macker  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:30:47am

re: #973 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

IIRC, The lady in red made the mistake of going after the "O" for being a Muslim. Perhaps if she had called him a "Fucking Commie Bastard"...

Was that you Mandy?

/snicker

991 avanti  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:30:50am

re: #959 Sharmuta

Maybe I'm the only person who recalls the right's reaction to McCain dealing with that crazy, bigoted woman in red. They didn't condemn her, they attacked McCain.

I'd like to think I wasn't the only person who thought perhaps a more proactive effort would keep more of the crazies away instead of playing defense on the issue.

I recall it, and I thought it was one of Mccain's finest moments. I did not think the lady was a hater, maybe just believed some of the hate e-mails floating around.

992 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:31:03am

re: #979 WriterMom

We've already suffered through Michelle's illiterate affirmative action "thesis", on the blackness of being black at a black-minority whitey university

When we were small children, my sister had a book called My Book About Me. Basically the child goes through it, fills in the blanks ("My grandma and grandpa's names are _______ and ______", etc.), pastes in a photo or two. Cute. Michelle's Princeton "senior thesis" seemed to be more or less along those lines.

993 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:31:03am

re: #907 buzzsawmonkey

I can't wait until Obama gives Sarkozy a brick of Velveeta as a gift in the course of a state visit.

If world leaders had the inclination, they could have some fun with the gifts to Obama thing.../

994 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:31:08am
995 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:31:08am

re: #959 Sharmuta

Maybe I'm the only person who recalls the right's reaction to McCain dealing with that crazy, bigoted woman in red. They didn't condemn her, they attacked McCain.

I'd like to think I wasn't the only person who thought perhaps a more proactive effort would keep more of the crazies away instead of playing defense on the issue.

How do you keep the crazies away?

996 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:31:12am

re: #948 rightside

He had to lower himself to the position on POTUS, don't make him lower himself further to actually write an opinion. You're simply not as intelligent, suave and debonair as he is.


But I do work more.

997 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:31:26am

re: #983 Occasional Reader

Hey, that's not fair, Obama has nominated many white people to Cabernet positions.

Even ones that merlot back taxes.

998 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:31:31am

re: #941 Sharmuta

Whatever indeed. McCain got trashed by the right for dealing with a crazy woman at a rally.

All of us? That's just terrible. We're so monolithic.

999 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:31:33am

Econ board has yet to meet publicly

Six weeks after President Barack Obama appointed a blue-ribbon panel to help him dig America out of its economic crisis, the board has yet to hold an official public meeting.

The White House initially said that the 16-member Presidential Economic Recovery Advisory Board, headed by former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, would meet “every few weeks.” Last month, a spokesperson told POLITICO the group would meet monthly. And more recently, the White House said the high-powered board, set up to address what Obama has called the worst economic emergency since the Great Depression, would gather only about four times a year, with the next session due in “late spring.”

But comments from board members and Obama himself indicate that some members of the panel are meeting, in smaller gatherings that have not been announced or opened to the public. And that raises the question of whether an administration that prides itself on openness and transparency is in fact finding it more convenient to conduct public business in private.

snip

“If the president wants to talk to his advisory committee, it seems to me he ought to do that in the open,” said Sidney Shapiro, a law professor at Wake Forest University. “There ought to be accountability for private people who address the government. It seems to me it becomes even more important, not less important, when you have a presidential advisory committee.”

Subpoena Cheney for privately meeting with energy execs about environmental policies, ........or something!

1000 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:31:46am

re: #989 ploome hineni

and why would the WAB hide her college thesis?

That's out there. I have a copy on my computer at home.

1001 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:31:48am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Geithner has proffered his latest version of whose money is it anyways - putting taxpayer dollars on the line to sop up toxic assets of banks and financial institutions - shifting the risk of loss from the banks who made bad business decisions and onto the taxpayer.

It's still a monumental mess that doesn't address the fundamental reasons why the assets were formed in the first place, repackaged, and then imploded.

It simply shifts the risks onto taxpayers at a time when the government has repeatedly shown that it has no clue how to value assets at its disposal.

At the same time Congress keeps pushing confiscatory taxes that would hit the heart of the financial industry in NYC, destroying the local economy. I don't think that is change that Bloomberg or Paterson can believe in because they are heavily reliant on Wall Street to fund all the tax and spend programs - and therefore require higher taxes from those very folks and industries -driving them out.

1002 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:32:05am

re: #996 opnion

But I do work more.

To pay others' mortgages, don't forget. ;^)

1003 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:32:14am

re: #893 faraway
Well - I could be wrong about this - but I think one of the reasons Charles instituted registration (not sure cause I was in the hospital at the time) was to at least be able to filter out the nut cases - and he's done I THINK a really great job at it too. Fuck around here and Charles will have your ISP, your name, address, hair color, age, where you went to school, what you do or did for a living and how long the cops have been looking for you!

1004 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:32:26am

re: #987 faraway

McCain was attacked for NOT attacking Obama.

It was actually worse, McCain came really close to endorseing Obama.

1005 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:32:33am

re: #991 avanti

Spare me. You provide cover for dicks.

1006 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:33:08am

re: #964 WriterMom

Every President I've ever seen elected has eventually released his Academic records if I'm not mistaken. I remember when Bush was elected, there was an article about past Presidents and their grades going back at least to FDR.

Somehow Obama always gets a free pass from his own history.

1007 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:33:13am

re: #994 buzzsawmonkey

He still gets a Shirazberry from me.

That's really low of you, buzz. And here I thought you couldn't get Merlot.

1008 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:33:19am

re: #961 rightside

So are mayonaise and rhubarb omelettes.

Seriously?

1009 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:33:58am

re: #992 Occasional Reader

Master's Degree in Navel Gazing-that's really all it is and it is CELEBRATED! For being so CREATIVE! and INNOVATIVE! She's so smart! And has wonderful biceps, too.

1010 faraway  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:34:25am

The nuts on the Dem side get Pulitzers and Oscars.

1011 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:34:28am

re: #898 avanti
That's only cause Geithner hasn't opened his yap on TV and talked about it - market will continue to go up if he shuts up.
Besides, I always thought that the bailout bill was supposed to relieve the banks of the most toxic of mortgages and if it wasn't, I wonder if Mr. Geithner will tell us where the hell that money did go.

1012 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:34:29am

Uhhh...folks, The Hur's brother went to Harvard Law school WITH Barak Obama. Was in classes with him and his partner played ball with him regularly (and I think my bro did a few times).

He called fouls on any contact whatsoever.

And apparently any answers given in class were so "speech-like" that everyone knew that he had political aspirations.

That sh*t is a NON-STARTER.

1013 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:34:43am

re: #1008 MandyManners

Hell no! that's like onion and limburger cheese yogurt.

1014 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:35:02am

re: #975 VioletTiger

Good morning lizards. How is everyone today?

Full of piss and vinegar. How're you?

1015 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:35:03am

re: #989 ploome hineni

That was released, or tracked down.

1016 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:35:36am

re: #995 MandyManners

How do you keep the crazies away?

good question...same with the tea parties...people say the gooners hurt the message but what can you do?

1017 avanti  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:35:49am

re: #973 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

IIRC, The lady in red made the mistake of going after the "O" for being a Muslim. Perhaps if she had called him a "Fucking Commie Bastard"...

Try that next election cycle and see how many hearts and minds you'll win over. Probably about as many as the far left Nazi comments about Bush did.
I know I'll never get some of you to accept this, but calling the President a Commie will not help you regain power.

1018 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:36:03am

re: #1005 Sharmuta

Spare me. You provide cover for dicks.

ROTFLMAO.

1019 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:36:18am

re: #1012 Ben Hur

After he shot hoops with the Messiah, did he EVER WASH HIS HANDS AGAIN? Evah?

1020 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:36:30am

re: #989 ploome hineni

and why would the WAB hide her college thesis?

I have her thesis.

1021 Wishing  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:36:30am

re: #1017 avanti

Try that next election cycle and see how many hearts and minds you'll win over. Probably about as many as the far left Nazi comments about Bush did.
I know I'll never get some of you to accept this, but calling the President a Commie will not help you regain power.

But calling you an idiot sure makes me feel better!

1022 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:36:35am

re: #1017 avanti

I don't want power. That's hard to fathom isn't it?

1023 jaunte  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:36:42am

re: #1012 Ben Hur


He called fouls on any contact whatsoever.

That fits.

1024 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:37:06am

re: #1007 Occasional Reader

That's really low of you, buzz. And here I thought you couldn't get Merlot.

That's because he's a z-Infidel .

1025 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:37:28am

re: #1017 avanti

Try that next election cycle and see how many hearts and minds you'll win over. Probably about as many as the far left Nazi comments about Bush did.
I know I'll never get some of you to accept this, but calling the President a Commie will not help you regain power.

Millions, eh?

Face it, your compadres made Chimpy McBushitler a standard on teh Intertubes.

And the gov't cheese lefties went ape-shit for it, coast to coast.

1026 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:37:53am

re: #1017 avanti

What makes you think we want your help?

1027 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:37:56am
1028 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:38:23am

re: #1012 Ben Hur

Uhhh...folks, The Hur's brother went to Harvard Law school WITH Barak Obama.

You're part of the conspiracy, aren't you?

NICE TRY, BORIS BADINOFF!

1029 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:38:39am

re: #957 JacksonTn

No we are not ... but is it too much to ask to see his records? I totally believe he went to Harvard ... I would like to know how he got in and see his records ... he is the President ... we should have had access to those records ...


If only to combat those loons that claim that the 0 is the most intelligent, with the highest IQ of any other, president in the history of the US. IMHO, he didn't get the grades and that is why they will not release them.

1030 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:38:47am

re: #1013 rightside

Hell no! that's like onion and limburger cheese yogurt.

You are sick.

1031 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:38:58am

re: #1024 Sharmuta

That's because he's a z-Infidel .

I thought he was fulla shiraz.

1032 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:39:11am
1033 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:39:32am

re: #1012 Ben Hur

He called fouls on any contact whatsoever.

Plus ca change, and all that.

(To lazy to do the cedille, so sue me)

1034 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:39:34am

re: #1028 Occasional Reader

You're part of the conspiracy, aren't you?

NICE TRY, BORIS BADINOFF!

Palin takes care of Moose. Who will deal with Squirrel?

1035 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:39:52am

re: #1017 avanti

Try that next election cycle and see how many hearts and minds you'll win over. Probably about as many as the far left Nazi comments about Bush did.
I know I'll never get some of you to accept this, but calling the President a Commie will not help you regain power.

bullshit...calling Bush a nazi for eight years put the droolers in office...that fraud worked like a dream...and btw BO is a fucking commie

1036 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:39:56am

re: #1016 albusteve

good question...same with the tea parties...people say the gooners hurt the message but what can you do?

Look at all the freaks at Democrats' rallies!

The problem is that the MFM ignore left-wing freaks yet look for any angle with which to smear the Right.

1037 Golem Akbar  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:40:00am

Good morning, Lizards. It's a windy but beautiful day here in LozAnJeleeze.

1038 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:40:19am

re: #953 MandyManners

I was goated into posting that video.

Shear you were.

1039 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:40:19am

re: #1032 WriterMom

Shock!

Amish Charged With Making Threats to Jewish Schools in Chicago.

Made you look!

I've said it before, you're evil ... I like that.

/

1040 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:40:54am

re: #1017 avanti

Try that next election cycle and see how many hearts and minds you'll win over. Probably about as many as the far left Nazi comments about Bush did.
I know I'll never get some of you to accept this, but calling the President a Commie will not help you regain power.

Why should we believe you, a fucking apologist for FCBBHO?

1041 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:41:16am

re: #1014 MandyManners

Full of piss and vinegar. How're you?

Groggy with the time change.
Missed my plane because the gate agent said it was leaving 3 hours late. I went to have a margarita or two to kill the time--and the plane left after an hour. I got another flight out but didn't get to the hotel until 1AM.

1042 jaunte  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:41:26am

re: #1032 WriterMom

One of the Lancaster County Alkaramla's?

1043 avanti  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:41:33am

re: #984 albusteve

honors from Harvard mean nothing...way less than Honors from say GVSC where mu daughter went to school...Harvard hands out Honors like candy

I'll defer to your knowledge on that issue, but I'd assume magna cum laude is better then a average grade ?

1044 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:41:40am

Need some help here, from anybody who travels by air.

Does titanium make the metal detectors go off in airport security?

1045 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:42:11am

re: #1026 Sharmuta

What makes you think we want your help?

Because he can only cover for dicks for so long before...

1046 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:42:13am

Gotta take care of some stuff...bbl.

1047 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:42:25am

re: #1036 MandyManners

Dems love their crazies. You can't be too left for the left.

1048 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:42:55am

Narcissists don't think the rules apply to them.

That's why we haven't seen the medical records or school transcripts. Releasing that information is for plebes.

1049 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:43:04am

re: #1037 Golem Akbar

Hi Golem-I got busy the other day, but will send you a note later with some more info and links.

1050 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:43:27am

re: #1047 VioletTiger

Dems love their crazies. You can't be too left for the left.

I dunno ... has Mama Sheehan gotten out from under the bus yet?

1051 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:43:32am

re: #1043 avanti

I'll defer to your knowledge on that issue, but I'd assume magna cum laude is better then a average grade ?

let him show how he earned it...pretty simple...he's a fraud in every other aspect of his life

1052 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:43:36am

re: #1044 reine.de.tout

Need some help here, from anybody who travels by air.

Does titanium make the metal detectors go off in airport security?


Um, how much titanium are we talkin' here?

1053 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:43:42am
1054 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:43:47am

re: #1038 Kosh's Shadow

Shear you were.

I'm not a knit-wit!

1055 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:44:05am
1056 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:44:05am

re: #907 buzzsawmonkey

re: #932 Wishing

re: #910 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Perhaps a bogus story but Le Figaro is one of France's top newspapers. This will be confirmed soon.

1057 kansas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:44:10am

re: #1017 avanti

Try that next election cycle and see how many hearts and minds you'll win over. Probably about as many as the far left Nazi comments about Bush did.
I know I'll never get some of you to accept this, but calling the President a Commie will not help you regain power.

Won you over didn't it?

1059 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:44:28am

re: #1052 VioletTiger

Um, how much titanium are we talkin' here?

A small mesh piece, maybe slightly larger than a half-dollar piece.

1060 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:44:31am

re: #1041 VioletTiger

Groggy with the time change.
Missed my plane because the gate agent said it was leaving 3 hours late. I went to have a margarita or two to kill the time--and the plane left after an hour. I got another flight out but didn't get to the hotel until 1AM.

Oh, that's harsh. Do you have to do anything this morning?

1061 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:44:36am

re: #1038 Kosh's Shadow

Shear you were.

Are you trying to pull the wool over our eyes?

1062 Golem Akbar  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:44:41am

re: #1031 OldLineTexan

I thought he was fulla shiraz.

Now, you two, tsk tsk...remember: A case of Serah, Serah.

1063 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:44:49am

re: #1054 MandyManners

I'm not a knit-wit!

Sew what are you?

1064 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:45:04am

re: #1045 Honorary Yooper

Because he can only cover for dicks for so long before...

So many possibilities..... It's early- I'll refrain.

1065 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:45:18am

re: #1047 VioletTiger

Dems love their crazies. You can't be too left for the left.

Or for their lap-dogs in the MFM.

1066 kansas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:45:27am

re: #1058 Alouette

Parents of Rachel Corrie wannabee: "Our son is pure and innocent as the wind-drifted snow"

Speaking of.............I got 100 shares of CAT the other day. My bad.

1067 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:45:55am

re: #1064 Sharmuta

So many possibilities..... It's early- I'll refrain.

I just left it open to the imagination.

1068 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:46:05am

Goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!

Just read this in the Daily Telegraph, and won't the lefties just love it!

China puts on musical celebrating Karl Marx.....

HIGH-kicking Chinese Marxists are set to bring communism's most famous tract to life - as a musical.

An all-singing, all-dancing stage version of Das Kapital is being produced in Shanghai to show how the thinking of Karl Marx is as relevant in today's economic crisis as when his book was first published in 1867, producers said yesterday.

"The entertainment and theatrical elements will help ordinary people better understand why the financial crisis is happening,'' said Zhang Jun, a Fudan University economics professor, who is an advisor on the production.

Zhang said his role is to ensure Marx's ideas are accurately represented in the stage spectacular.

"I've given an introductory briefing to the crew. They are still working on the script,'' Zhang said.

"The director, He Nian, will incorporate modern elements in the show to make it easily connect to people's lives and feelings,'' the professor added.

The musical will revolve around a group of office workers who discover their boss is exploiting them and each responds differently, the China Daily newspaper reported.

"We will bring (Marx's) economic theories to life in a trendy, interesting and educational play, which will be fun to watch,'' the paper quoted He as saying.

Can't wait/////

1069 Golem Akbar  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:46:14am

re: #1032 WriterMom

Shock!

Amish Charged With Making Threats to Jewish Schools in Chicago.

Made you look!


WM! [youda WM]

1070 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:46:23am

re: #1048 Sharmuta

Narcissists don't think the rules apply to them.

That's why we haven't seen the medical records or school transcripts. Releasing that information is for plebes.

We should just believe that everything about the great and powerful FCBBHO is wonderful.

1071 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:46:26am

re: #993 VioletTiger

Remember the Dan Quayle flap when he picked up an "anatomically correct" (male) figurine in some Central/South American country and said something like "Oh, I bet 13 year old boys would really like this". That one always cracks me up.
By the way, I'd put Quayle's grades up against Obama's any day of the week. I hope BO releases his records so I get the chance.

1072 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:46:43am

re: #1051 albusteve

let him show how he earned it...

1073 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:47:16am

re: #951 Occasional Reader
Good morning O.R. - You have to admit that being editor-in-chief of the Harvard Law Review would almost certainly require that you write SOMETHING - if not an article (which I would expect) then at least a note to an article written by a scholar from outside Harvard Law School and Obama did neither one.
Seriously, you've been to law school (or at least that's the rumor! LOL!) have you EVER seen a law review that didn't have SOMETHING written by the Editor-in-Chief? Obama excepted?

1074 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:47:19am

re: #1054 MandyManners

I'm not a knit-wit!

But you can spin a good yarn.

1075 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:47:26am

Any word yet on Halliburton?

1076 kansas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:47:35am

Dow keeps going up like this for 4 years, I'll vote for dipshit.

1077 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:48:09am
1078 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:48:10am

re: #1070 MandyManners

We should just believe that everything about the great and powerful FCBBHO is wonderful.

And he would never lie. It's AMAZING no one has yet compared him to Washington like they've done with Lincoln.

1080 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:48:35am

re: #1069 Golem Akbar

WM! [youda WM]

where's Meyer Lansky when you need him?

1081 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:48:36am

re: #1063 Honorary Yooper

Sew what are you?

I'm baaaaaaaaaad.

1082 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:48:39am

re: #1060 MandyManners

Oh, that's harsh. Do you have to do anything this morning?

Not until 11. I am getting some well earned rest, waiting for the chance to WAKE the people in the room next to me who blasted rap music at 3 AM.....

1083 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:48:41am

re: #1068 aussiemagpie

Goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!

Just read this in the Daily Telegraph, and won't the lefties just love it!

China puts on musical celebrating Karl Marx.....

Can't wait/////

Is this a Max Biyalastock production?

1084 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:49:02am

re: #1044 reine.de.tout

Need some help here, from anybody who travels by air.

Does titanium make the metal detectors go off in airport security?


I have many a friend with titanium rods, screws in their legs, arms. They do not have a problem with airport security.

1085 avanti  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:49:17am

re: #1026 Sharmuta

What makes you think we want your help?

Maybe not help, but a little insight from someone that did not vote for your guy. You can continue to just blow off the majority of the voters as stupid, mislead or Commies or figure out how we think.

1086 kansas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:49:21am

re: #1078 Sharmuta

And he would never lie. It's AMAZING no one has yet compared him to Washington like they've done with Lincoln.

Just don't try to secede from the Union.

1087 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:49:24am

re: #1084 outsidephilly

I have many a friend with titanium rods, screws in their legs, arms. They do not have a problem with airport security.

thanks.
That's what I needed to know.

1088 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:50:19am

re: #1068 aussiemagpie

Goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!

Just read this in the Daily Telegraph, and won't the lefties just love it!

China puts on musical celebrating Karl Marx.....


Can't wait/////

Will FCBBHO have them come to the Kennedy Center to do a command performance?

1089 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:50:47am
1090 kansas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:50:51am

re: #1085 avanti

Maybe not help, but a little insight from someone that did not vote for your guy. You can continue to just blow off the majority of the voters as stupid, mislead or Commies or figure out how we think.

Pretty sure your thinking goes something like this.
Image: ?action=view&current=3279236161_c0e90e2e6d_o.gif

1091 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:51:09am

re: #1074 Kosh's Shadow

But you can spin a good yarn.

You bet your purl necklace I can!

1092 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:51:13am

re: #1085 avanti

Maybe not help, but a little insight from someone that did not vote for your guy. You can continue to just blow off the majority of the voters as stupid, mislead or Commies or figure out how we think.

Why? You folks blew off the majority as stupid back in 2004 when Bush won his second term. Face it, Obama did a lot of razzle-dazzle, and McCain was lackluster. Problem is, Obama's all razzle-dazzle, and no plot.

1093 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:51:16am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine monday morning?

1094 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:51:27am

re: #1087 reine.de.tout

If you've got certain kinds of implants, your doctors will give you medical cards or bracelets to wear/carry so that the TSA will know. That's particularly the case with pacemakers/internal defibrillators.

1095 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:51:38am

Three contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House. One is from Chicago, another is from Tennessee, and the third is from Minnesota.

All three go with a White House official to examine the fence. The Minnesota contractor takes out a tape measure and does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil. "Well," he says, "I figure the job will run about $900: $400 for materials, $400 for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The Tennessee contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says, "I can do this job for $700: $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The Chicago contractor doesn't measure or figure, but leans over to the White House official and whispers, "$2,700."

The official, incredulous, says, "You didn't even measure like the other guys! How did you come up with such a high figure?"

The Chicago contractor whispers back, "$1000 for me, $1000 for you, and we hire the guy from Tennessee to fix the fence."

"Done!" replies the White house official.

And that, my friends, is how the new stimulus plan will work. - Alaska Paul

1096 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:51:50am

re: #1078 Sharmuta

And he would never lie. It's AMAZING no one has yet compared him to Washington like they've done with Lincoln.

Washington is the quintessential dead, white man.

1097 Macker  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:52:06am

re: #1012 Ben Hur

Uhhh...folks, The Hur's brother went to Harvard Law school WITH Barak Obama. Was in classes with him and his partner played ball with him regularly (and I think my bro did a few times).

He called fouls on any contact whatsoever.

And apparently any answers given in class were so "speech-like" that everyone knew that he had political aspirations.

That sh*t is a NON-STARTER.

I wonder if he was like that in high school too...Colonel Panik, what's your take?

1098 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:52:11am

re: #1073 realwest

Seriously, you've been to law school (or at least that's the rumor! LOL!) have you EVER seen a law review that didn't have SOMETHING written by the Editor-in-Chief?

We've discussed this before, IIRC... at least at my law review, it would have been considered somewhat odd and a little embarrassing for the E-i-C not to publish a "note". Not entirely unheard of, but, like I said, a little embarrassing.

1099 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:52:22am

re: #1071 Lincolntf

I have a feeling that BHO's reluctance to release grades has more to do with getting in trouble for something, especially in undergrad. There is a stain on his record somewhere, so he may not be able to release one set of records and not the other, since that would raise more qestions.

1100 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:52:26am

re: #1085 avanti

Maybe not help, but a little insight from someone that did not vote for your guy. You can continue to just blow off the majority of the voters as stupid, mislead or Commies or figure out how we think.

we know more about you than you know about yourself....that's one symptom of the disease of liberalism

1101 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:52:26am

re: #1092 Honorary Yooper

Did someone say razzle dazzle?

1102 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:52:32am

re: #1082 VioletTiger

Not until 11. I am getting some well earned rest, waiting for the chance to WAKE the people in the room next to me who blasted rap music at 3 AM.....

I'd have been down at the front desk in my bathrobe raising hell.

1103 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:52:35am

re: #1079 newsjunkie_ky

Make sure you click on the youtube video of the 0 and kroft. Make it go viral.

I have a hard time watching obama speak. When's he's off teleprompter, it's excruciating. (when he's on teleprompter - it's excruciating)

1104 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:52:59am

re: #1093 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine monday morning?

How are your brackets going?

1105 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:53:04am

re: #1085 avanti

Do NOT say "we" because you are not an independent/moderate. You are a shill.

Besides- I'm well aware of how moderates think, and I'm quite capable of bringing people to my way of thinking in the course of a conversation. A good number of people agree with many conservative principles, they just don't know they do.

1106 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:53:23am

re: #1085 avanti

Maybe not help, but a little insight from someone that did not vote for your guy. You can continue to just blow off the majority of the voters as stupid, mislead or Commies or figure out how we think.

We KNOW how you and your comrades think.

1107 avanti  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:53:24am

re: #1035 albusteve

bullshit...calling Bush a nazi for eight years put the droolers in office...that fraud worked like a dream...and btw BO is a fucking commie

I can't speak for all the voters, but I was pissed off at the far left loons comments. If you think the name calling will help you though, have at it.

1108 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:53:46am

re: #1102 MandyManners

I'd have been down at the front desk in my bathrobe raising hell.

I did call security and they came up. It is a posh place. Didn't expect that.

1109 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:54:08am

re: #1087 reine.de.tout

thanks.
That's what I needed to know.


Be sure to carry a letter from your doctor noting the rod, screws, whatever. This will help if you are detained, which you shouldn't be, but ya never know.

1110 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:54:08am

re: #1094 lawhawk

If you've got certain kinds of implants, your doctors will give you medical cards or bracelets to wear/carry so that the TSA will know. That's particularly the case with pacemakers/internal defibrillators.

OK, I'll check into that. thanks.

1111 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:54:36am

re: #1104 VioletTiger

How are your brackets going?

Talking dirty this early? For shame.

1112 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:54:59am

re: #1107 avanti

Yeah, name calling is totally counter-productive and the people who engage in it are the bottom of the intellectual barrel.

Isn't that "Special"....

1113 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:55:18am

re: #1002 rightside

To pay others' mortgages, don't forget. ;^)

I live to serve. The Dear Leader has convinced me that I am selfish.

1114 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:55:18am
1115 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:55:19am
1116 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:55:23am

re: #1107 avanti

I can't speak for all the voters, but I was pissed off at the far left loons comments. If you think the name calling will help you though, have at it.

I didn't say it would help did I?....don't fall over backpeddling

1117 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:55:38am

re: #1107 avanti

If you are a candidate who has no problem with redistribution of wealth, you might be a socialist.

If you are a member of a political party that has no problem pushing confiscatory taxes as high as 90% (or 70% in the Senate), you might be a socialist.

If you think government is the solution to all that ails the economy, you might be a socialist.

If you think the government is the solution to health care delivery, you might be a socialist.

If you think that the private sector is the cause of the economic troubles to the exclusion of government interference in the markets, you might be a socialist.

1118 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:55:40am

re: #1055 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - this coming Wednesday is your birthday?!
WOOT!
Just in case I forget (I've been doing a lot of that lately) HAPPY BIRTHDAY IRON FIST and many, many more!

1119 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:55:55am

re: #1108 VioletTiger

I did call security and they came up. It is a posh place. Didn't expect that.

Sadly, money doesn't guarantee good behavior any more.

1120 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:56:03am

re: #1113 opnion

*SLAP* *SLAP* Wake up man!

1121 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:56:12am

re: #1103 FrogMarch

I have a hard time watching obama speak. When's he's off teleprompter, it's excruciating. (when he's on teleprompter - it's excruciating)


Agree. Watch his body language. The 0 has no clue.

1122 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:56:22am

re: #1107 avanti

I can't speak for all the voters, but I was pissed off at the far left loons comments. If you think the name calling will help you though, have at it.

If you can't speak for all the voters why are you speaking for all of the voters in trying to tell us what to say to them?

1123 jcm  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:56:46am

Morning Honocs.

Settled into the jury pool waiting area.

1124 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:57:04am

re: #1017 avanti

Try that next election cycle and see how many hearts and minds you'll win over. Probably about as many as the far left Nazi comments about Bush did.
I know I'll never get some of you to accept this, but calling the President a Commie will not help you regain power.


What would you suggest, "A misguided Yoot?"

1125 kansas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:57:08am
1126 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:57:18am

re: #1123 jcm

Morning Honocs.

Settled into the jury pool waiting area.

Any good cases coming up?

1127 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:57:25am
1128 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:57:28am

re: #1123 jcm

Morning Honocs.

Settled into the jury pool waiting area.


Are you impressed with the dress code?

1129 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:57:43am

Quick question. WIth Avanti now having a karma below -1,000, does he hold the record for lowest total karma?

1130 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:58:03am

re: #1107 avanti

I can't speak for all the voters, but I was pissed off at the far left loons comments. If you think the name calling will help you though, have at it.

Congratulations on breaking -1000

1131 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:58:04am

when's? try "when"

too much Icanhascheeze

1132 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:58:14am

re: #1110 reine.de.tout

If you know the company that did the implants, you can check with them. I know that with the IID/pacemakers, the companies provide the cards and additional information. Medtronic is typical for such information.

1133 kansas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:58:20am

re: #1129 Honorary Yooper

Quick question. WIth Avanti now having a karma below -1,000, does he hold the record for lowest total karma?

I got a question. How is the Karma number formulated?

1134 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:58:31am

re: #1130 Alouette

Congratulations on breaking -1000

Heh

1135 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:58:43am

re: #1129 Honorary Yooper

Quick question. WIth Avanti now having a karma below -1,000, does he hold the record for lowest total karma?

not into it myself....

1136 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:58:48am

re: #1123 jcm


Are you wearing your Club Gitmo™ T-shirt? You'd be home by noon.

1137 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:58:56am

re: #1123 jcm

Morning Honocs.

Settled into the jury pool waiting area.

Find eleven other men, and start feeling angry.

1138 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:58:58am

re: #1133 kansas

I got a question. How is the Karma number formulated?

It's the net sum of your up dings and down dings.

1139 realwest  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:58:59am

Well you all I gotta go hobble off to do some chores now.
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

1140 jcm  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:59:20am

Surrender in Afghanistan is in the wind this morning.

As US public sours on Afghanistan, Obama calls for 'exit strategy'

President Barack Obama stressed that the United States must have an "exit strategy" for Afghanistan in an interview aired Sunday, as his administration prepares to send thousands more troops to the troubled nation to help tame the Taliban insurgency.

I got a damn exit strategy, defeat the enemy, establish a stable government.

Simple idea, but difficult execution. The right things are often simple, and difficult.

1141 kansas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:59:21am

re: #1138 Sharmuta

Thank you.

1142 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:59:26am

re: #1130 Alouette

Congratulations on breaking -1000

Dubious honor, obviously. I think he now holds the record for lowest total karma. Of course, he's no annefrance, but then again, there was no one quite like annefrance.

1143 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:59:38am

re: #1123 jcm

Morning Honocs.

Settled into the jury pool waiting area.

I got called for jury duty in Colorado once when I was pregnant. The person in charge took one look at me and told me to go home.

1144 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:59:47am

re: #1132 lawhawk

If you know the company that did the implants, you can check with them. I know that with the IID/pacemakers, the companies provide the cards and additional information. Medtronic is typical for such information.


Yes, my thoughts, exactly.
I my cardiac lab we make sure patients card info is accurate, and easy to read.

1145 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:59:48am

re: #1129 Honorary Yooper

Quick question. WIth Avanti now having a karma below -1,000, does he hold the record for lowest total karma?

There's a creationist troll with -2000 something. "stretch", iirc.

1146 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 7:59:57am

re: #1133 kansas

I got a question. How is the Karma number formulated?

Total number of positive (+) and negative (-) dings.

1147 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:00:09am

re: #1115 Iron Fist
If the MSM used the same standard for experience for Obama that they used for Plain, they would have destroyed the Obama Candidacy.
I think that it is rather clear that the Palin experience criticism was just a canard.

1148 Macker  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:00:09am

re: #1130 Alouette

Congratulations on breaking -1000

Not only that, he insults the Navy too (this, from a former Squid)

1149 kansas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:00:14am

re: #1146 Honorary Yooper

Thank you.

1150 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:00:21am

Ugh. Morning, if it is morning, which I doubt. Home sick. Laying in bed, daughter's kitty at my side. Feeling like a Mac truck ran over me and then my son's wheelchair decided to do one extra lap over me for good measure.

So what are we discussing, so I can ignore it?

1151 avanti  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:00:31am

re: #1047 VioletTiger

Dems love their crazies. You can't be too left for the left.

I'd bet Pelosi and those like her, are not popular with most DEM's, we have our share of moon bats, as does the GOP.

1152 jcm  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:00:31am

re: #1128 outsidephilly

Are you impressed with the dress code?

I'm overdressed. Slacks, a button down shirt and dress shoes. Although I had to leave my favorite accessory in the truck.

1153 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:00:38am

re: #1140 jcm

Surrender in Afghanistan is in the wind this morning.

As US public sours on Afghanistan, Obama calls for 'exit strategy'

I got a damn exit strategy, defeat the enemy, establish a stable government.

Simple idea, but difficult execution. The right things are often simple, and difficult.

he's obsessed with exit strategies but has none for the fucked up economy

1154 jcm  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:00:54am

re: #1143 MandyManners

I got called for jury duty in Colorado once when I was pregnant. The person in charge took one look at me and told me to go home.

I didn't think about trying that!

;-P

1155 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:01:08am

re: #1121 newsjunkie_ky

Agree. Watch his body language. The 0 has no clue.

At least he has a winning smile.

1156 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:01:17am
1157 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:01:20am

stretch

Karma: -2,044
Registered since: Mar 13, 2008 at 7:18 pm
No. of comments posted: 299
No. of links posted: 0

1158 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:01:28am

re: #1145 Sharmuta

There's a creationist troll with -2000 something. "stretch", iirc.

He had to find a way to last a while then. Creationist trolls usually flame out quickly.

1159 kansas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:01:34am

re: #1155 FrogMarch

At least he has a winning smile.

Looks more like a shit eating grin to me.

1160 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:01:41am

re: #1142 Honorary Yooper

Dubious honor, obviously. I think he now holds the record for lowest total karma. Of course, he's no annefrance, but then again, there was no one quite like annefrance.

It's a little skewed, though, becuase he posts a lot. If spacejesus posted that much he would be -10,000.

1161 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:01:44am

re: #1150 vxbush

Ugh. Morning, if it is morning, which I doubt. Home sick. Laying in bed, daughter's kitty at my side. Feeling like a Mac truck ran over me and then my son's wheelchair decided to do one extra lap over me for good measure.

So what are we discussing, so I can ignore it?

( ( ( ( ( ( vxbush ) ) ) ) ) )

1162 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:02:06am
1163 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:02:11am

re: #1123 jcm

Morning Honocs.

Settled into the jury pool waiting area.

You got yer che shirt on?

1164 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:02:21am

re: #1151 avanti

I'd bet Pelosi and those like her, are not popular with most DEM's, we have our share of moon bats, as does the GOP.

Do you even know what a moonbat is?

1165 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:02:21am

re: #1150 vxbush

Ugh. Morning, if it is morning, which I doubt. Home sick. Laying in bed, daughter's kitty at my side. Feeling like a Mac truck ran over me and then my son's wheelchair decided to do one extra lap over me for good measure.

So what are we discussing, so I can ignore it?


Sorry you're not feeling well!

Some are talking about avanti reaching -1,000 karma
Some are talking about jury duty
Some are mostly lurking -- that be, me :>}

1166 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:02:28am

re: #1159 kansas

Looks more like a shit eating grin to me.

LOL - yes.

1167 kansas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:02:50am

Some turd in the Kansas City paper today has an opinion piece saying that in order to be like Lincoln, Obama needs to investigate the Bush Administration for their crimes. Is it too early to drink?

1168 jcm  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:02:50am
1169 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:02:52am

42 year old Curt Schilling just retired from baseball. He had a great career.

He said "To say that I've been blessed is like saying Refrigerator Perry was a bit overweight".

1170 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:03:25am

re: #1154 jcm

I didn't think about trying that!

;-P

It'd take a lot of doing, that's for sure.

1171 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:03:26am

SpaceJesus

Karma: -963
Registered since: Oct 15, 2007 at 4:51 pm
No. of comments posted: 355
No. of links posted: 0

1172 kansas  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:03:31am

re: #1164 MandyManners

Do you even know what a moonbat is?

Lesson to Avanti:

This is shit, this is shinola.

1173 jcm  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:03:39am

re: #1162 buzzsawmonkey

If you're overdressed and want to be excused, take your pants off.

Straight from jury pool to lock up in 60 seconds!

1174 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:03:51am
1175 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:03:54am

re: #1167 kansas

Some turd in the Kansas City paper today has an opinion piece saying that in order to be like Lincoln, Obama needs to investigate the Bush Administration for their crimes. Is it too early to drink?

the left are empty husks without their eternal Bush-hatred.

1176 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:03:58am

re: #1157 Sharmuta

stretch

Karma: -2,044
Registered since: Mar 13, 2008 at 7:18 pm
No. of comments posted: 299
No. of links posted: 0

Damn. So Avanti has someone to look up to for most negative total karma. I'm suprised Stretch hasn't been banned yet. As I said, most creationist trolls tend to flame out quickly by insulting the host.

1177 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:04:07am

re: #1156 Iron Fist

I've got about half a pound of stainless steel plates, screws, and pins that hold my left arm together. I've never had a problem with metal detectors. I was worried about what would happen when I had an MRI ran on my knee, damn, a long time ago. Everything came through just fine (the MRI still freaked me out a bit. Fun it was not)


Those MRI's ARE quick to freak a person out.

Why all the plates, screws, pins, if I may ask?

1178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:04:29am

re: #1123 jcm

Wearing your "Death Penalty Rocks!" t-shirt?

1179 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:04:40am

re: #1162 buzzsawmonkey

If you're overdressed and want to be excused, take your pants off.

And, you know that works because...?

1180 jcm  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:04:52am

re: #1163 FrogMarch

You got yer che shirt on?

No, Rush is Right t-shirt, NRA hat and reading Levin's Men in Black!

//

1181 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:05:02am

re: #1176 Honorary Yooper

Damn. So Avanti has someone to look up to for most negative total karma. I'm suprised Stretch hasn't been banned yet. As I said, most creationist trolls tend to flame out quickly by insulting the host.

He's managed to stay polite.

1182 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:05:33am
1183 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:05:38am

C'mon, folks! We can help Avanti earn his rightful place in Karma! Let's do our share!

1184 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:05:47am

re: #1154 jcm

I didn't think about trying that!

;-P

It might have worked!
[Link: www.blog.cheesymeat.com...]
Plus you would have had a cheap lunch!

1185 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:06:03am

So.... somewhere between spacejesus and stretch, there's a condom.

1186 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:06:16am

re: #1165 outsidephilly

Sorry you're not feeling well!

Some are talking about avanti reaching -1,000 karma
Some are talking about jury duty
Some are mostly lurking -- that be, me :>}

Jury duty, huh? I've done some of that. They built a new courthouse between the two times I served, so the first time it was all about trying to find a comfortable chair to wait in until they decided whether they needed us. The second time was much easier, with a nice jury waiting room with fairly comfortable chairs, power outlets for laptops, and coffee and tea. No one complained about how much their taxes had to increase to make that nice space.

1187 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:06:39am

re: #1152 jcm

I'm overdressed. Slacks, a button down shirt and dress shoes. Although I had to leave my favorite accessory in the truck.


My jury duty experience was during the summer months. There were people in shorts, tacky 'sleeveless' tank shirts, flip-flops.

1188 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:06:43am

re: #1160 VioletTiger

It's a little skewed, though, because he posts a lot. If spacejesus posted that much he would be -10,000.

Spacejesus is just so over the top though. He seems like either an intentional troll, or a complete nut like Archimedes Plutonium.

1189 jorline  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:07:02am

re: #1152 jcm

I'm overdressed. Slacks, a button down shirt and dress shoes. Although I had to leave my favorite accessory in the truck.

Good morning, jcm.

Did you leave it loaded or unloaded in the truck?
//

1190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:08:06am

I could get out of Jury duty anywhere in America. I would be honored to be on a jury, but no lawyer with a lick of sense would allow me on a panel.

I wouldn't have to lie or dress like Princess Leia either.

1191 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:08:15am

re: #1188 Honorary Yooper

Spacejesus is just so over the top though. He seems like either an intentional troll, or a complete nut like Archimedes Plutonium.

he's a threadwhore....he owns alot of posters

1192 avanti  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:08:21am

re: #1148 Macker

Not only that, he insults the Navy too (this, from a former Squid)

You know what insults the Navy and the military in general ? The insult is that we served for some that think their particular brand of politics is the only acceptable one, that conservatives are patriots and liberals are commies.
I don't give a flying fuck if my Karma is -1000000, I love my country and have the right to support my POTUS, just as much as you have the right to insult him.

1193 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:08:21am

I no longer think avanti is JustMyView. JMV would occasionally admit s/he was wrong.

1194 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:08:28am

re: #1183 MandyManners

C'mon, folks! We can help Avanti earn his rightful place in Karma! Let's do our share!

I've pretty much put it on auto-scroll.
Not worth the calories to type anything IMHO.

1195 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:08:30am

re: #1152 jcm

I'm overdressed. Slacks, a button down shirt and dress shoes. Although I had to leave my favorite accessory in the truck.

I served on a grand jury in NYC some years back, with (among others) a retired cop who strolled through the courthouse metal detector every morning with his favorite accessory strapped into an ankle holster. The detector simply didn't reach down far enough to pick it up. I gently suggested that maybe he shouldn't do that anyway.

1196 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:08:48am

re: #1156 Iron Fist

I've got about half a pound of stainless steel plates, screws, and pins that hold my left arm together. I've never had a problem with metal detectors. I was worried about what would happen when I had an MRI ran on my knee, damn, a long time ago. Everything came through just fine (the MRI still freaked me out a bit. Fun it was not)

Sounds like my right leg, but the doctor told me no MRI's ever.

1197 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:08:57am

re: #1190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I could get out of Jury duty anywhere in America. I would be honored to be on a jury, but no lawyer with a lick of sense would allow me on a panel.

I wouldn't have to lie or dress like Princess Leia either.


Why wouldn't they want you on their jury panel?

1198 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:09:10am

re: #1180 jcm

No, Rush is Right t-shirt, NRA hat and reading Levin's Men in Black!

//

perfect! Good luck today.

1199 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:09:15am

re: #1187 outsidephilly

My jury duty experience was during the summer months. There were people in shorts, tacky 'sleeveless' tank shirts, flip-flops.

Yes, I never quite understood that. In one court session I had to attend (we were waiting for the jury selection to begin), the judge reamed the defendant for showing up in shorts and a T-shirt. I could not believe that folks would dress like that for a court date!

1200 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:09:31am

re: #1194 SasquatchOnSteroids

I've pretty much put it on auto-scroll.
Not worth the calories to type anything IMHO.

It's just one click to ding.

1201 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:09:43am
1202 KenJen  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:09:51am

re: #1168 jcm

Is the honeymoon over already?

Hey President Obama, the campaign is over - forget the popularity contest

The honeymoon is over and I would now like to divorce this president.

1203 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:10:04am

re: #1168 jcm

And yet, the former sportscaster/reporter Mike Lupica (a Keith Olbermann wannabee) finds reason to blame the GOP for the mess, instead of noting that Obama's own actions are fanning the flames of discontent and sowing the seeds of doubt in the markets.

Note that Geithner gave his plan today, and the market jumped - because they got certainty of a plan (any plan). They also jumped because the real estate market did far better than expected (without government intrusion - more affordable homes on the market courtesy of foreclosure the big reason). Watch the latter reason be discounted in favor of the former (the plan).

1204 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:10:11am
1205 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:10:45am

re: #1196 soxfan4life

Sounds like my right leg, but the doctor told me no MRI's ever.

I have a friend who has a neural stimulator installed in her back. Same thing--no MRI's for her.

1206 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:11:08am

re: #1104 VioletTiger

How are your brackets going?


My brackets are in really good shape..I have 12 of the remaining 16 teams left..Hurrah!

1207 jorline  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:11:14am

Congratulations PBO.

You will go into the history books as the first American President to attain a legacy within their first 100 days.

1208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:11:17am

re: #1197 outsidephilly

Why wouldn't they want you on their jury panel?

I am a hang-em high, MFer probably did something else if he didn't do this, 3 strikes and you are out, I can smell guilty from a mile away kind of partial, biased person.

That's all.

1209 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:11:29am

re: #1200 Sharmuta

It's just one click to ding.

Ok, you've convinced me.

1210 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:11:33am

re: #1156 Iron Fist

(the MRI still freaked me out a bit. Fun it was not)

Personally, I had no problem in the MRI (for my knee, too); I just brought a book. (A light book, so I could hold it up over my face for the requisite amount of time.)

And by the way, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

1211 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:12:11am

re: #1199 vxbush

Yes, I never quite understood that. In one court session I had to attend (we were waiting for the jury selection to begin), the judge reamed the defendant for showing up in shorts and a T-shirt. I could not believe that folks would dress like that for a court date!


Can't understand what goes on in people's heads . . . , could it be they just don't know better?

1212 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:12:26am

re: #1192 avanti

You're quite a specimen, you know that? We can't call Obama insulting names because it hurts your feelings, but we can't call him by his actual name either, or we're xenophobes. How long will it be before citizens aren't even allowed to make eye contact with the Dear Leader?

1213 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:12:33am

re: #1205 vxbush

I have a friend who has a neural stimulator installed in her back. Same thing--no MRI's for her.

Never had one before, sounds like I haven't missed anything.

1214 KenJen  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:12:40am

re: #1206 HoosierHoops

Congrats! Who do you have winning? I forgot.

1215 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:12:46am

re: #1206 HoosierHoops

My brackets are in really good shape..I have 12 of the remaining 16 teams left..Hurrah!

Hubby and I aren't doing as well: I've got eleven, he's got ten. Duke losing really messed up that corner of the bracket, though.

1216 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:12:47am

re: #1201 buzzsawmonkey

No- JMV isn't banned. Just stopped coming around. Acouple folks seemed to think avanti was perhaps JMV, but I seem to recall JMV conceding a few points here and there- something avanti doesn't do.

And thanks.

1217 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:12:47am

I see that President Punch Drunk is back on the tube in Prime Time Tuesday.
He is really getting over exposed.

1218 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:13:01am

re: #1204 Iron Fist

Not my birthday. I see how you could have read it that way, though. 21 years since my friend died, and all the mess that surrounded that. Not really something I want to talk about in public, but something that I can't (for obvious reasons) get off my mind.

. . . . , I'm sorry for your loss!

1219 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:13:12am

re: #1192 avanti

You know what insults the Navy and the military in general ? The insult is that we served for some that think their particular brand of politics is the only acceptable one, that conservatives are patriots and liberals are commies.
I don't give a flying fuck if my Karma is -1000000, I love my country and have the right to support my POTUS, just as much as you have the right to insult him.

My dad, who is a WW2 Navy vet, would think you are a weaselly asshole.

1220 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:13:28am

re: #1209 SasquatchOnSteroids

Ok, you've convinced me.

See? I was just telling avanti I have a way of convincing people. :D

1221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:13:33am

re: #1212 Lincolntf

When Streisand is in a hotel or at a venue, employees are not allowed to look at her.

Seriously.

1222 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:13:35am

re: #1204 Iron Fist

Not my birthday.

Whoops. Um, never mind.

1223 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:13:42am

re: #1211 outsidephilly

Can't understand what goes on in people's heads . . . , could it be they just don't know better?

But surely they were taught by family to dress appropriately? Well, you would think so.

1224 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:13:42am

re: #1211 outsidephilly

Can't understand what goes on in people's heads . . . , could it be they just don't know better?

people dress anyway they want in NM...I go get a breakfast burrito in jammies and slippers all the time...who cares?

1225 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:13:59am

re: #1204 Iron Fist

{Cousin Fist}

1226 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:14:09am

re: #1208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am a hang-em high, MFer probably did something else if he didn't do this, 3 strikes and you are out, I can smell guilty from a mile away kind of partial, biased person.

That's all.

aha -- you're a person with excellent discerning skills!

1227 jcm  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:14:22am

re: #1189 jorline

Good morning, jcm.

Did you leave it loaded or unloaded in the truck?
//

It's locked in one compartment, the mags in the glove box.

1228 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:14:29am
1229 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:14:50am

re: #1140 jcm

Surrender in Afghanistan is in the wind this morning.

As US public sours on Afghanistan, Obama calls for 'exit strategy'


I got a damn exit strategy, defeat the enemy, establish a stable government.

Simple idea, but difficult execution. The right things are often simple, and difficult.


But...but....but the REASON for 9/11 was that America ABANDONED Afganistan!

1230 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:14:55am

re: #1221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When Streisand is in a hotel or at a venue, employees are not allowed to look at her.

Seriously.

Excuse me, but how can she expect to get service if people can't look at her?

Oy.

1231 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:15:22am

Let's not forget this post from avanti:

I'll admit I have not, but unlike some others, I hope he succeeds in turning the economy. If being happy when the market goes ups, and my IRA goes up is selfish, so be it. I never said word when some on here were almost gleeful when the market tanked, allow me to be happy if it goes up. If BHO plan does not work. or can't work, then the market will tank again.

That's right. He said some here were willing to see the economy crash just to make FCBBHO look bad.

1232 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:15:31am

re: #1221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I see quite a few parallels with "He Who Must Not Be Named" and the absurdly pampered celebs like Streisand. It's half-funny, half-tragic.

1233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:15:37am

re: #1228 Iron Fist

I came to LGF after (y'all call him Nodrog). Never saw one of his/her posts.

1234 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:15:45am

re: #1221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When Streisand is in a hotel or at a venue, employees are not allowed to look at her.

Seriously.

She doesn't want to get sued in case they turn to stone.

1235 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:15:53am
1236 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:16:37am

re: #1231 MandyManners

Let's not forget this post from avanti:


That's right. He said some here were willing to see the economy crash just to make FCBBHO look bad.

Only ELEVEN dings! We can do better!

1237 jorline  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:16:43am

re: #1216 Sharmuta

No- JMV isn't banned. Just stopped coming around. Acouple folks seemed to think avanti was perhaps JMV, but I seem to recall JMV conceding a few points here and there- something avanti doesn't do.

And thanks.

I don't remember seeing JMV after the election....strange. I thought she would return to gloat....but nada.

1238 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:17:27am

re: #1223 vxbush

But surely they were taught by family to dress appropriately? Well, you would think so.


Well, I know I was taught to dress appropriately for school, for church, for celebrations. However, my parents never discussed the proper dress code for court arraignments, though . . . .

1239 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:17:29am

re: #1214 KenJen

Congrats! Who do you have winning? I forgot.


I've got Louisville and Pitt in the final.. I should have picked UConn but That's water under the bridge now..

1240 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:17:47am

re: #1237 jorline

I don't remember seeing JMV after the election....strange. I thought she would return to gloat....but nada.

That's why some thought JMV got a new handle.

1241 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:17:52am

re: #1236 MandyManners

Only ELEVEN dings! We can do better!

Wow. One more already this morning.

1242 rightside  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:18:13am

This came from the headlines at hotair.

Divorce Agreement
Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:
We have stuck together since the late 1950’s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce.
I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.
Here is a model separation agreement:
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion.
That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy!
Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes. We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.
Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O’Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).
We’ll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street.
You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens.
We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s and rednecks.
We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .
You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide them security.
We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the UN…but we will no longer be paying the bill.
We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.
You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We’ll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We’ll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute Imagine, I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.
We’ll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot.
Since it often so offends you, we’ll keep our history, our name and our flag
Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete.
In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.
Sincerely,
John J. Wall, Law Student and an American
P. S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda with you.

1243 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:18:13am

not every drooler is a troll, but every liberal is a drooler

1244 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:18:43am

re: #1224 albusteve

people dress anyway they want in NM...I go get a breakfast burrito in jammies and slippers all the time...who cares?

yeah, I with there. Yet, what would you wear if you were to stand before a Judge in a courtroom?

1245 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:19:09am

re: #1229 Ben Hur

But...but....but the REASON for 9/11 was that America ABANDONED Afganistan!

Didn't take long at all, did it?

/we are sooooooo fucked.

1246 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:19:24am

re: #1244 outsidephilly

yeah, I with there. Yet, what would you wear if you were to stand before a Judge in a courtroom?

me?...probably an orange jumpsuit

1247 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:20:46am

re: #1246 albusteve

me?...probably an orange jumpsuit


orange, aye? why not yellow, or navy blue?

1248 jorline  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:21:08am

re: #1240 Sharmuta

That's why some thought JMV got a new handle.

Makes sense, but why not take at least one victory lap? lol

1249 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:21:17am

re: #1238 outsidephilly

Well, I know I was taught to dress appropriately for school, for church, for celebrations. However, my parents never discussed the proper dress code for court arraignments, though . . . .

I think you would be safe if you dressed for church, right? That always worked for me.

1250 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:21:29am
1251 jcm  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:22:25am

Playing with WiFi connections trying to find a good one.

Being welcome by a Judge.

1252 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:22:42am

re: #1247 outsidephilly

orange, aye? why not yellow, or navy blue?

they don't give you a choice...

1253 Wishing  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:22:58am

re: #1056 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

re: #932 Wishing

re: #910 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Perhaps a bogus story but Le Figaro is one of France's top newspapers. This will be confirmed soon.

You have the Le Figaro link?

1254 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:23:11am

re: #1251 jcm

Playing with WiFi connections trying to find a good one.

Being welcome by a Judge.

Leap to your feet and shout "I OBJECT, YOUR HONOR! I can't find a decent WiFi connection!"

1255 opnion  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:23:56am

re: #1206 HoosierHoops

My brackets are in really good shape..I have 12 of the remaining 16 teams left..Hurrah!

I am 36 & 12 right now. Yesterday was almost a bracket buster

1256 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:24:12am

re: #1248 jorline

Makes sense, but why not take at least one victory lap? lol

Perhaps JMV had some graciousness in not rubbing our noses in it? Maybe something happened to JMV and s/he's not able to log in and comment? I don't know, but I hope whatever is going on, that the person who posted as JMV is alright personally.

1257 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:24:28am

re: #1254 Occasional Reader

Leap to your feet and shout "I OBJECT, YOUR HONOR! I can't find a decent WiFi connection!"

Well, that would get him out of a lot. Do courts now consider the implications of Twitter on cases? They should.

1258 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:24:31am

re: #1249 vxbush

I think you would be safe if you dressed for church, right? That always worked for me.


I've never stood before a Judge, and if I did, my knees would be knocking!

When I'm helping at my friend's law office, I go over to the courthouse and sit in on the cases being heard. My stomach has butterflies in it, and I'm not the person in trouble.

Thankfully, my parents instilled a healthy fear of God, and healthy respect for the law in me!

1259 jcm  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:24:57am

re: #1254 Occasional Reader

Leap to your feet and shout "I OBJECT, YOUR HONOR! I can't find a decent WiFi connection!"

It's a public safety issue! If I don't have WiFi while waiting, I might go Postal!

1260 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:25:17am

Is it just my connection, or is LGF a bit erratic today?

1261 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:26:10am

re: #1252 albusteve

they don't give you a choice...


oh yeah, what was I thinking?

1262 JacksonTn  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:26:34am

re: #1212 Lincolntf

You're quite a specimen, you know that? We can't call Obama insulting names because it hurts your feelings, but we can't call him by his actual name either, or we're xenophobes. How long will it be before citizens aren't even allowed to make eye contact with the Dear Leader?

Michelle the Beard say now ...

/yeah ... I know no respect for the first lady ... so sue me ...

1263 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:26:49am

re: #1250 Iron Fist

I understand the feeling. It's been over 30 years since my mother passed and it doesn't get any easier. Hang in there.

1264 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:26:51am

re: #1258 outsidephilly

I've never stood before a Judge, and if I did, my knees would be knocking!

When I'm helping at my friend's law office, I go over to the courthouse and sit in on the cases being heard. My stomach has butterflies in it, and I'm not the person in trouble.

Thankfully, my parents instilled a healthy fear of God, and healthy respect for the law in me!

I've had to go for guardianship hearings for me when i was younger and for my son; filing a lawsuit against an insurance company; and various odds and ends. I'm a bit more used to it now, but it's always smart to respect the power of the judge and dress respectfully. Showing up in flip flops definitely doesn't cut it.

1265 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:26:55am

re: #1254 Occasional Reader

Leap to your feet and shout "I OBJECT, YOUR HONOR! I can't find a decent WiFi connection!"

That'd get him removed from the jury pool and into a nice room all by himself.

1266 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:27:28am

re: #1259 jcm

It's a public safety issue! If I don't have WiFi while waiting, I might go Postal!

"Everything that guy just said is Bullshit."

1267 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:27:42am
1268 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:27:42am

re: #1259 jcm

It's a public safety issue! If I don't have WiFi while waiting, I might go Postal!

Inform the judge that you observed two yoots with good WiFi signals.

1269 redstateredneck  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:27:46am

Good morning, {all y'all}. It's a glorious spring day here in the deep south. Azaleas are in full bloom. Dogwoods are showing lovely white patches in the green woods. Almost makes me forget what a fricken mess this country is in.

1270 outsidephilly  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:27:57am

back to the office -- bbl

1271 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:28:03am

re: #1257 vxbush

Just recently there was a case (I think here in NC, but it could have been anywhere) where a defendant was granted a mistrial because one of the juriors had twittered/texted during testimony. When the Judge called all of the jurors together, he polled them and found that 8 out of 12 of them had done the same thing. Cellphones are about to be banned in the jury boxes/rooms as a result.

1272 jcm  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:29:50am

re: #1268 Occasional Reader

Inform the judge that you observed two yoots with good WiFi signals.

LoL!

1273 KenJen  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:30:01am

re: #1239 HoosierHoops

The Cards scared me last night.

1274 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:30:23am

re: #1271 Lincolntf

Just recently there was a case (I think here in NC, but it could have been anywhere) where a defendant was granted a mistrial because one of the juriors had twittered/texted during testimony. When the Judge called all of the jurors together, he polled them and found that 8 out of 12 of them had done the same thing. Cellphones are about to be banned in the jury boxes/rooms as a result.


Should be banned from lots of places. Of course if people had a sense of personal responsibility there would be no problem.

1275 gymmom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:30:32am

I was on a jury for a criminal case 2 years ago. The defendant objected once to his own lawyer! He also used Mandy's favorite word a few times! It was at least entertaining. We convicted him and I didn't realize how nervous I would be going back into that courtroom for the judge to read the conviction. He was a bit unhinged. but when we went back in there were about 6 officers - 2 at each exit. Gave me a little comfort.

1276 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:31:00am

re: #1271 Lincolntf

Just recently there was a case (I think here in NC, but it could have been anywhere) where a defendant was granted a mistrial because one of the juriors had twittered/texted during testimony. When the Judge called all of the jurors together, he polled them and found that 8 out of 12 of them had done the same thing. Cellphones are about to be banned in the jury boxes/rooms as a result.

they absolutely are in NM

1277 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:31:19am

re: #1271 Lincolntf

Just recently there was a case (I think here in NC, but it could have been anywhere) where a defendant was granted a mistrial because one of the juriors had twittered/texted during testimony. When the Judge called all of the jurors together, he polled them and found that 8 out of 12 of them had done the same thing. Cellphones are about to be banned in the jury boxes/rooms as a result.

I think that's a good idea. The idea of "keeping quiet" during a trial is not understood by many in the younger generations this day.

1278 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:31:25am

re: #1255 opnion

I am 36 & 12 right now. Yesterday was almost a bracket buster


I need Buzzsaw this morning...
**********************
Dribble and dunking and open floor passes
Blocking and Chauking from the men and the lasses
Last second shots from a desperate team
These are a few of my favorite things...

1279 Wishing  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:31:40am

Le Figaro article about Obama writing to Chiraq
Hope someone will translate for us.

1280 gymmom  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:31:50am

We weren't allowed to have cell phones or paper and pencil during the trial. It lasted a few days and we were lectured on not discussing with anyone.

1281 albusteve  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:32:16am

re: #1279 Wishing

Le Figaro article about Obama writing to Chiraq
Hope someone will translate for us.

it is upthread I believe

1282 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:33:54am

re: #1215 vxbush

Hubby and I aren't doing as well: I've got eleven, he's got ten. Duke losing really messed up that corner of the bracket, though.

?

1283 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:34:22am

re: #1279 Wishing

Le Figaro article about Obama writing to Chiraq
Hope someone will translate for us.

My French is rusty, but I can try.

1284 Wishing  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:35:40am

re: #1281 albusteve

it is upthread I believe

Thanks steve

1285 yma o hyd  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:36:04am

re: #1253 Wishing

You have the Le Figaro link?

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

If this is confirmed - awww!
I'm already holding my sides, I'm laughing so much!


Even if it isn't true in the end - the point is, we all know it could well have been true, its what PB0 is eminently capable of.

1286 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:36:06am

re: #1282 VegasRick

?

I thought I saw that they lost. Hold on, let me check...

Oh, my bad. I blame being sick. Purdue moving ahead screwed us up.

1287 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:40:48am

re: #1282 VegasRick

Visiting your lovely city this week.

Off to find some breakfast!
Have a great day all.

1288 avanti  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:41:41am

re: #1212 Lincolntf

You're quite a specimen, you know that? We can't call Obama insulting names because it hurts your feelings, but we can't call him by his actual name either, or we're xenophobes. How long will it be before citizens aren't even allowed to make eye contact with the Dear Leader?

I can't say it hurts my feeling, but it does not fill me with pride in my fellow man either. Even if you believe in your heart that the POTUS is a Communist, it may not serve your party to toss around that label this early. Even the lefties use of the Nazi label was not heard much when Bush was popular. Name calling might bite you in the ass if over half the country approves of the POTUS IMHO.

1289 JacksonTn  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:43:51am

re: #1288 avanti

I can't say it hurts my feeling, but it does not fill me with pride in my fellow man either. Even if you believe in your heart that the POTUS is a Communist, it may not serve your party to toss around that label this early. Even the lefties use of the Nazi label was not heard much when Bush was popular. Name calling might bite you in the ass if over half the country approves of the POTUS IMHO.

I would bet that a large percentage of the people who voted for Obama do not even know about the history of socialism/marxism/communism ... or would they care ... because ... like you ... they are in love ...blinded by it actually ...

You never read the articles people give you about his past with marxist do you ...

1290 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:47:17am

re: #1279 Wishing

Le Figaro article about Obama writing to Chiraq
Hope someone will translate for us.

Did you still need to translate it for you? I'll let Babelfish do the majority but I'll tweak it based on my (old) knowledge of French idiom.

1291 avanti  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:53:33am

re: #1285 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

If this is confirmed - awww!
I'm already holding my sides, I'm laughing so much!

Even if it isn't true in the end - the point is, we all know it could well have been true, its what PB0 is eminently capable of.

Here's a confirming source.

1292 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:54:37am

re: #1288 avanti

Name-calling and scurrilous slurs are what got Obama and the current Congress elected, if you've already forgotten.
You should worry less about people calling Obama a Commie, and more about Obama BEING a Commie.

1293 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:54:38am

re: #1288 avanti

I can't say it hurts my feeling, but it does not fill me with pride in my fellow man either. Even if you believe in your heart that the POTUS is a Communist, it may not serve your party to toss around that label this early. Even the lefties use of the Nazi label was not heard much when Bush was popular. Name calling might bite you in the ass if over half the country approves of the POTUS IMHO.

You have GOT to be fucking kidding me.

1294 vxbush  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:55:46am

re: #1291 avanti

Here's a confirming source.

Actually, they're just quoting the Figaro article.

1295 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:55:46am

re: #1291 avanti

F-Troop strikes again!

1296 redstateredneck  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 8:56:27am

re: #1293 OldLineTexan

You have GOT to be fucking kidding me.


He should have been on my lib brother's mailing list. I got more Bush and Cheney are Nazi's links than I could believe.

1297 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 23, 2009 5:41:49pm

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