He can still whup those boys on one collar bone

Collarbones can be difficult to heal also...

That's a shame. I hope he heals well and quickly.

I heard on the news that Matt Lauer had a bike wreck yesterday when a deer ran out in front of him.

Armstrong is an amazing athlete and an example for all of us, with his determination to overcome all odds. I wish him a speedy recovery.

Didn't Jan Ulrich race with a broken collarbone a few years back?

Are the Fwench celebrating in the streets yet?

Live strong!

that's gonna leave a mark... my best to him and let's hope it's not a broken bone.

re: #5 karmic_inquisitor

Didn't Jan Ulrich race with a broken collarbone a few years back?

It was Tyler Hamilton

Parhaps he can use minor league baseball for rehabilitation. Give Michael Jordon a call and see if he has any connections.

/

If he can beat cancer and win I don't think a broken collarbone will stop him.

Its Bush's fault.

/moonbat off

Armstrong is scheduled to race the Giro d’Italia, May 9-31.

Riders with broken collarbones typically return to competition between four to six weeks after the injury.

But do they return at the level they had achieved before the crash?

re: #9 karmic_inquisitor

It was Tyler Hamilton

He finished 4th that year, BTW. Incredible, really.

Best wishes, Lance. You sure have been a lot of fun to watch.

I'm very sorry to read this. I hope Armstrong didn't break his collarbone.

More coffee is needed.

"I was in the front. It was on really narrow, bumpy roads. It was a pretty bad road, super-rough and narrow. The edges were deteriorating, with cracks and parts missing, It was worse than typical (Spanish roads).”

Clearly, some of the stimulus package should have gone to road repair in Spain.

re: #17 Silhouette

Clearly, some of the stimulus package should have gone to road repair in Spain.

Don't give them any ideas.

Sad - I wanted to see Lance ride in the Tour
God speed and a full recovery

re: #17 Silhouette

Clearly, some of the stimulus package should have gone to road repair in Spain.

It probably has.

In keeping with his recent tradition of gaffes , President Obama has just sent a Get Well soon Card to Floyd Landis

re: #21 Shug

In keeping with his recent tradition of gaffes , President Obama has just sent a Get Well soon Card to Floyd Landis

And some DVDs?

I read there was a pile up in front of him..Those wrecks can be bad.

re: #2 coquimbojoe

Collarbones can be difficult to heal also...

Broke mine about 4 years ago - lived in a recliner for several months waiting for it to heal. Took supplemental calcium to speed it up - hurt like hell.

Speedy Recovery!

but wait- Spain is a socialist paradise. Shouldn't they have perfect roads?

/never miss an opportunity for snark.

Best of luck to Lance - I hope it's not serious.

re: #21 Shug

In keeping with his recent tradition of gaffes , President Obama has just sent a Get Well soon Card to Floyd John Landis

I hope Lance returns and kicks some butt this season. Whether he does or not, I think my favorite moment from his comeback will be this one from the Tour of California.

Yeah, Tyler Hamilton did race on a broken collarbone -- with help from blood boosting drugs.

Ouch, it hurts just reading about it. Broken collar bones hurt like hell I understand, and lay you up for quite awhile. This reminds me of what G. Gordon Liddy once said (just googled) “You know, it only takes eight pounds of pressure to break the collar bone,” Liddy explained. “Next time, whack him right here.” He touched his collar bone. “Without that bone, the arm is useless, it just dangles.”

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

A friend of mine bikes regularly and he broke his collarbone while he was at least 20 miles from his house--and trashed the bike. He had to walk back the whole way because he forgot his cell phone. He was not a happy camper.

I was on a ride with a guy who broke his collarbone. I drove him (in his car) to the hospital, then home. He traded in his mountain bike for a recumbent after that.

What a shame. Wishing him a speedy recovery.

re: #29 Charles

Yeah, Tyler Hamilton did race on a broken collarbone -- with help from blood boosting drugs.

Hi Charles. This is way OT but is there any way you can ask Stinky to return me to the exact place on the page where I replied to a comment? I'm spending a lot of time scrolling around to find where I left off after commenting to a post. Thanks, turn.

I broke mine 5 years ago this summer. It still ain't good as it was before. I can't lie on that right side.

Lance can ride in a few weeks. You can bet he'll be on a trainer until he's cleared for the road.

re: #29 Charles

Yeah, Tyler Hamilton did race on a broken collarbone -- with help from blood boosting drugs.

Pardon my ignorance, but were those drugs legal?

re: #31 vxbush

A friend of mine bikes regularly and he broke his collarbone while he was at least 20 miles from his house--and trashed the bike. He had to walk back the whole way because he forgot his cell phone. He was not a happy camper.

Aww - how awful for him!
Another reason why I prefer swimming: you can't fall off anything ...

Speedy recovery for Lance - especially so as to annoy the Fwench!

re: #30 turn

“Without that bone, the arm is useless, it just dangles.”

...and throbs, painfully.

re: #35 Sean

Nice avatar... Bama fan?

(runs away laughing hysterically)

re: #31 vxbush

A friend of mine bikes regularly and he broke his collarbone while he was at least 20 miles from his house--and trashed the bike. He had to walk back the whole way because he forgot his cell phone. He was not a happy camper.

Ouch! He must have been is some kind of pain for sure.

re: #24 Bobibutu

Broke mine about 4 years ago - lived in a recliner for several months waiting for it to heal. Took supplemental calcium to speed it up - hurt like hell.

I sell orthopedic devices to surgeons. One of them is a Bone Growth Stimulator. I have a number of Clavical patients.

re: #37 yma o hyd

Aww - how awful for him!
Another reason why I prefer swimming: you can't fall off anything ...

Speedy recovery for Lance - especially so as to annoy the Fwench!

He's a tough guy, and it seriously spooked him. I'm with you--give me a pool, goggles, and a at least 25 meters ahead of me!

re: #41 coquimbojoe

I sell orthopedic devices to surgeons. One of them is a Bone Growth Stimulator. I have a number of Clavical patients.

I tried to learn the Clavical but found the Thumbone to be more to my liking.

re: #39 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nice avatar... Bama fan?

(runs away laughing hysterically)

Probably the University of Arizona

(*frantically digging a foxhole*)

CNN is reporting that an unnamed official says that it is a broken collarbone.

re: #43 DaddyG

;-)

re: #38 Sean

“Without that bone, the arm is useless, it just dangles.”

...and throbs, painfully.

I was playing tackle footbball with a group of kids from the neighborhood when I was young. To this day I can still hear the "snap" sound when we broke Brian's collarbone on a tacke.

re: #39 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sorry. No mullet. No double-wide trailer. Full set of teeth.

re: #34 turn

Hi Charles. This is way OT but is there any way you can ask Stinky to return me to the exact place on the page where I replied to a comment? I'm spending a lot of time scrolling around to find where I left off after commenting to a post. Thanks, turn.

If you're using Firefox, use the "find" command (control-f) and type in your name, or whatever word you're looking for.

re: #28 wrenchwench

I hope Lance returns and kicks some butt this season. Whether he does or not, I think my favorite moment from his comeback will be this one from the Tour of California.

This is the site of the photographer who took those photos. Beautiful stuff.

re: #48 Sean

Wife has an Auburn magnet she has on her car during football season. Lived in Alabama for many years when she was younger.

Hates Bear Bryant to this day...

re: #44 pre-Boomer Marine brat
re: #51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Da Bahr=Anti-Christ of college footbal

re: #17 Silhouette

Clearly, some of the stimulus package should have gone to road repair in Spain.

* * * *
Socialist Spain's roads should all be paved in gold, after all the $$$ TAKEN by the Socialists for "public works."

Too bad socialists skim off the public works trough everywhere.

re: #52 Sean

I've been telling people it wasn't 0bama. (Did you notice that Bama is in his name?)

Later, folks. Lunch and a nap.

re: #49 ErnieG

If you're using Firefox, use the "find" command (control-f) and type in your name, or whatever word you're looking for.

You know I've tried using that technique and if you post several comments it still takes time looking for "next". I don't use firefox so I don't know if that is easier then on IE. I was just wondering if there was some way to use the comment counters or some such thing to put you back close to where you left off on the page. This is probably WAY more difficult a problem than I'm making it out to be, it sure would be a nice feature if Charles could figure out how to do it though. Not really needed for quick readers (which is why turn is asking about it).

which could put an end to his Tour de France comeback

Might be just as well.

/the French are out to get him and the "fans" are way too close

re: #54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

See my #52.

re: #56 turn

You know I've tried using that technique and if you post several comments it still takes time looking for "next". I don't use firefox so I don't know if that is easier then on IE. I was just wondering if there was some way to use the comment counters or some such thing to put you back close to where you left off on the page. This is probably WAY more difficult a problem than I'm making it out to be, it sure would be a nice feature if Charles could figure out how to do it though. Not really needed for quick readers (which is why turn is asking about it).

If you're looking for comment #56, just type 56 in the find window.

re: #26 FrogMarch

but wait- Spain is a socialist paradise. Shouldn't they have perfect roads?

/never miss an opportunity for .

Best of luck to Lance - I hope it's not serious.

* * * *
Yes, Spain is now under Socialist parasite control.

But Castilla & Leon is the magical land of Castles, and where Christopher Columbus' patrons ruled.

Roast suckling pig a specialty and very tasty.

re: #59 ErnieG

If you're looking for comment #56, just type 56 in the find window.

Well there you go, why didn't I think of that? Doh, thanks.

re: #60 alegrias

* * * *
Yes, Spain is now under Socialist parasite control.

But Castilla & Leon is the magical land of Castles, and where Christopher Columbus' patrons ruled.

Roast suckling pig a specialty and very tasty.

Mmmm lechón asado.

Anyone care to attempt a diagnosis based on a cell phone photo?

re: #63 wrenchwench

Anyone care to attempt a diagnosis based on a cell phone photo?

Yes ... he's in pain.

re: #17 Silhouette

Clearly, some of the stimulus package should have gone to road repair in Spain.

Nah, Spain's too busy building toll roads in Texas.

When Sophia Loren crashed in Spain and broke her arm while filming in beautiful Castilla on the set of "El Cid" with Charlton Heston, my uncle set her arm. (Franco's 1960s Spain was full of Hollywood types)

re: #66 alegrias

When Sophia Loren crashed in Spain and broke her arm while filming in beautiful Castilla on the set of "El Cid" with Charlton Heston, my uncle set her arm. (Franco's 1960s Spain was full of Hollywood types)

I'll bet he was the envy of the town.

re: #65 badger1970

Nah, Spain's too busy building toll roads in Texas.

* * * *
Actually, Socialist Spain spends tax dollars maintaining Saudi-built mosques.
Jizya tax.

We spend tax dollars (jizya billions) on Palestinian friends of Hillary & Obama.

re: #67 doppelganglander
Shameless attempt to hijack the thread to
a mammary thread?
Bravo!

re: #63 wrenchwench

Anyone care to attempt a diagnosis based on a cell phone photo?

Yes. He's in pain. That will be $200, please.

AP says it's fractured:

Astana team leader Johan Bruyneel says on his Twitter feed that it was a clean fracture without complications. He adds that the seven-time Tour de France champion should make a fast recovery.

Update on Palin's stimulus gamble...
Lawmakers urged to go for all stimulus funding

Residents told Anchorage area lawmakers in no uncertain terms they want the state to apply for all federal funds for which Alaska is eligible under the federal stimulus plan.
...
"I'm really concerned that our governor has chosen to pander to her political pipe dream as opposed to ..." said Deanna Youngren, a special education instructor, before applause Saturday from the audience packed inside the Anchorage Assembly Chamber drowned out the rest of her statement.
...
Palin's budget director, Karen Rehfeld, said the controversy over the governor's stance on the stimulus money is somewhat misplaced. She said the administration hasn't yet rejected a single dollar of the stimulus funding.
...
Lawmakers can seek any stimulus funds that Palin leaves out of her proposal, however she retains veto rights.

State Sens. Bert Stedman, R-Sitka, and Hollis French, D-Anchorage, introduced a resolution Friday saying the Legislature "certifies the state's acceptance of all funds that may be available."

Rep. Les Gara, D-Anchorage, said Palin "got some really bad advice" on the stimulus money.

"She's seeing strings attached that really don't exist," he said.

"I'm not interested in creating bigger government or funding we can't afford to in the future," said Rep. Craig Johnson, R-Anchorage. He wants more details on what the state is getting into if it takes all the stimulus money.

Sen. Kevin Meyer, R-Anchorage, is chairman of the Legislative Budget and Audit Committee, where much of the debate will occur on the stimulus issue.

Meyer said Rehfeld told him Friday state commissioners will apply for all the money by the appropriate deadlines. Then the debate can begin on whether to turn any of it back.

We'll see how this pans out but I'd guess that the legislature will vote to accept the funds. That way Palin can garner conservative love for rejecting the money but she'll bow to the legislature are allow the funds to be accepted.

Mark Steyn has just disposed of Timmy G

re: #72 Killgore Trout

oops, that was a bit long. Sorry.

OT: Barney Frank is still an idiot.

Rep. Frank Calls Justice Scalia a 'Homophobe'

"At some point, [the Defense of Marriage Act] is going to have to go to the United States Supreme Court," the congressman, a Democrat, said. "I wouldn't want it to go to the United States Supreme Court now because that homophobe Antonin Scalia has got too many votes on this current court."

Who wants to tell him that Scalia has one vote, as does each justice?

re: #73 lifeofthemind

Mark Steyn has just disposed of Timmy G

Who's Timmy G and what did Mark do to him?

re: #69 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

Shameless attempt to hijack the thread to
a mammary thread?
Bravo!

Not really, but if you want to, have at it.

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Update on Palin's stimulus gamble...
Lawmakers urged to go for all stimulus funding

We'll see how this pans out but I'd guess that the legislature will vote to accept the funds. That way Palin can garner conservative love for rejecting the money but she'll bow to the legislature are allow the funds to be accepted.

You do understand why some governors are rejecting some of this stimulus, right?

/among other things, it increases welfare spending but the stimulus funding ends after a couple years, leaving the states holding the bag for the new, higher baseline

re: #76 Russkilitlover

Who's Timmy G and what did Mark do to him?

That would be Tim Geithner (D-Tax Cheat).

re: #75 doppelganglander

OT: Barney Frank is still an idiot.

Rep. Frank Calls Justice Scalia a 'Homophobe'

Who wants to tell him that Scalia has one vote, as does each justice?

You can call me a Frankophobe. This guy scares me.

re: #78 Killian Bundy

You do understand why some governors are rejecting some of this stimulus, right?

Yes. Thanks for asking.

re: #79 lawhawk

That would be Tim Geithner (D-Tax Cheat).

Thanks! I wish I could listen to the radio at work! I'd love to hear a couple of hours worth of Mark Steyn!

re: #63 wrenchwench

I remember that. His right arm and posture say enough. 4-6 weeks off the bike. Ouch.

re: #75 doppelganglander

I rather be called a homophobe than a homo, just saying.

re: #76 Russkilitlover

Who's Timmy G and what did Mark do to him?

Boy Treasury Secretary for the boy who would run for (but not be) POTUS

He ripped his attempting to deduct his kids Summer Camp and then went into Geithner's claim that he couldn't figure out TurboTax.

A new twist of Stockholm Syndrome...
Terry Holdbrooks stood watch over prisoners at Gitmo. What he saw made him adopt their faith.

See...The answer is, "Beneath the dignity of the office of the President, especially in the middle of an economic crisis".

Man, I just had to get out another roll of paper towels. I must spend hundreds of dollars every year on paper towels.

(guess who's on TV)

JP Morgan now says it was not going to buy the two new jets and fancy hanger.

News on Armstrong

"Astana team leader Johan Bruyneel says on his Twitter feed that it was a clean fracture without complications. He adds that the seven-time Tour de France champion should make a fast recovery. "

Apologies for going off topic, but it's been in the news over here in the UK about a Post Master who immigrated from Sri Lanka 18 years ago who refused to serve customers who could not speak English because he is proud to be British and has held steady against protest from the Muslim community.

A few links are here:

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

[Link: www.thisisnottingham.co.uk...]

Mr Kumarasiri has a website called Britishness Forever in which he campaigns for traditional British values.:

[Link: www.britishnessforever.co.uk...]

A true modern day British hero.

re: #37 yma o hyd

hey yma: OT but you mentioned on the dog thread that you like border collie crossbreeds. What breed do they cross them with? I love border collies but would not get one because I know they need serious occupation and room to roam. If there is a good breed to mix them with that would require less activity, I'd love to find out about it.

re: #63 wrenchwench

Anyone care to attempt a diagnosis based on a cell phone photo?

Well, with a complete fracture, the unopposed action of the sternocleidomastoid muscle usually results in superior displacement of the medial fracture fragment, which can create an externally visible deformity. If he'd sit up a little bit, we could see if he has one.

Can someone call whoever that cell phone belongs to and tell them to ask Lance to sit up a little? He's making it hard for us to take care of him over here.

re: #71 Last Mohican

AP says it's fractured:

He may not be ready for the Giro d’Italia (May 9-31), but could be for the Tour de France (July 4 to 26). Will affect team strategies for sure. There are other possible leaders on the team.

re: #86 Killgore Trout

A new twist of Stockholm Syndrome...
Terry Holdbrooks stood watch over prisoners at Gitmo. What he saw made him adopt their faith.

Holy shit, the guy is a friggin truther too.

re: #89 avanti

JP Morgan now says it was not going to buy the two new jets and fancy hanger.

That'll show those greedy workers at the plane factory and the construction firm for the hangar. Way to sock it to 'em, JP - your government is proud of you.

re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Man, I just had to get out another roll of paper towels. I must spend hundreds of dollars every year on paper towels.

(guess who's on TV)

Shamwow?

re: #93 Last Mohican

Can someone call whoever that cell phone belongs to and tell them to ask Lance to sit up a little? He's making it hard for us to take care of him over here.

LOL

Y'all might be surprised by this...but I'm not much into exercising. He is the man, but my couch is so much more comfortable than a bicycle.

re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Man, I just had to get out another roll of paper towels. I must spend hundreds of dollars every year on paper towels.

(guess who's on TV)

Rosemary Clooney?

re: #91 cagney

Is that last link a BNP site?

re: #69 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

Shameless attempt to hijack the thread to
a mammary thread?
Bravo!

* * * *
The irony about my uncle fixing Sophia Loren's broken ARM is he was actually a pioneering plastic surgeon who did plenty of mammary work!

BTW- He hassn't moved that right arm in the other photo.
...and yes, I know Bruyneel confirmed it.

re: #100 DaddyG

Rosemary Clooney?

Rosie!

re: #102 alegrias

* * * *
The irony about my uncle fixing Sophia Loren's broken ARM is he was actually a pioneering plastic surgeon who did plenty of mammary work!

I was surprised that no male lizards asked you if he saw her boobs when he set her arm.

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Y'all might be surprised by this...but I'm not much into exercising. He is the man, but my couch is so much more comfortable than a bicycle.

You can have both!

re: #89 avanti

JP Morgan now says it was not going to buy the two new jets and fancy hanger.

I'm not sure why anyone, other than stockholders, should care what they do with their mioney.

/they were strong armed into taking a measly $25 billion in TARP that they didn't want and they can't give it back fast enough

re: #101 Killgore Trout

No, but it's about a guy who's standing up from British values.

re: #105 redstateredneck

I was surprised that no male lizards asked you if he saw her boobs when he set her arm.

I see now that it was alluded to.

re: #104 redstateredneck

Rosie!

You asked for it.

re: #108 cagney

PIMF

No, It's about a guy who's standing up for British values.

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Y'all might be surprised by this...but I'm not much into exercising. He is the man, but my couch is so much more comfortable than a bicycle.

If couch diving ever becomes an Olympic event, I will do my country proud.
:)

#101

From Britishness forever site

"BRITISHNESS FOREVER equally respects all Ethnic Minorities in UK. Simultaneously all Communities living in UK should respect British values’ which has been passed down by generation to generation in Britain "

Have you entered the site?

re: #113 cagney

Yes, I looked at the site. I'm just a little suspicious these days.

Damn, get well soon Lance, you've sure as hell overcome worse than this.

BTW- WHEN YOU RIDE WEAR YOUR HELMET!

"By providing a market for these assets that does not now exist, this program will help improve asset values, increase lending capacity by banks, and reduce uncertainty about the scale of losses on bank balance sheets," Geithner said in an op-ed piece published in today's Wall Street Journal. "The ability to sell assets to this fund will make it easier for banks to raise private capital."

So who will hold these assets? What happens to them? I can't help but think this is all a shell game. Wall St. seems a bit pleased though that banks aren't going to be forced to reorganize and/or change behavior. Message of the day seems to be relief that things will continue status quo.

re: #104 redstateredneck

Rosie!

Rosemary Clooney - Come On A My House

re: #114 Killgore Trout

I understand.

Have to wait to see. I do think that we need more guys like Mr Kumarasiri to speak up for British values and take it away from the likes of the BNP. I for one, are concerned, because coming from Scotland, there is a rise in Scottish nationalism and it don't like the look of the Scot Nats. They'll do anything to get independence, we'd be a poorer folk for it because the Muslims have too much power in the SNP. We in Scotland need some positive leadership from the rest of the UK to keep Scottish nationalism at bay.

re: #117 Russkilitlover

"By providing a market for these assets that does not now exist...

The assets don't exist and they're going to sell them...
--or--
The market for the bad assets doesn't exist (because they are BAD, duh!).

Either way it sounds like the price of "Total Crap" just went up and I get the bill.

I am sorry to hear that something bad happened to such a good person, but am relieved that it was not worse.

Lance has suffered worse breaks, and whatever he does, retire or retry, he will remain a very respected person in my book.

re: #86 Killgore Trout

A new twist of Stockholm Syndrome...
Terry Holdbrooks stood watch over prisoners at Gitmo. What he saw made him adopt their faith.

Snip: He has holes the size of quarters in both earlobes, stretched-out piercings that he plugs with wooden discs. At his Phoenix apartment, bedecked with horror-film memorabilia, he rolls up both sleeves to reveal wrist-to-shoulder tattoos. He describes the ink work as a narrative of his mistakes and addictions. They include religious symbols and Nazi SS bolts, track marks and, in large letters, the words BY DEMONS BE DRIVEN. He says the line, from a heavy-metal song, reminds him to be a better person.

re: #114 Killgore Trout

From this BNP link:

[Link: bnp.org.uk...]

The BNP have firmly nailed their sails to their mast by saying they are ethno-nationalists. I get the feeling that Mr Kumarasiri, a Sri-Lankan immigrant would not be welcome in their party or a BNP run Britain, don't you?

They guy beat cancer and won 7 TdFs. He will ride again.

I think he'll recover fine. Remember when Tyler rode the TDF with a broken collar bone? Just wrapped it; he couldn't stand and attack, but he was still strong. The Bruyneel says it was clean and should heal quickly.

Armstrong is too big to fail. I propose a trillion dollar stimulus package.

re: #91 cagney

Why hasn't he been put in jail?

re: #9 karmic_inquisitor

re: #3 J.D.

That's a shame. I hope he heals well and quickly.

I heard on the news that Matt Lauer had a bike wreck yesterday when a deer ran out in front of him.

Breaking a collar bone is common among bicycle racers; one crashes and it's a reflex action to put out one's arm. The resulting fall compresses the extended arm/shoulder into the collar bone, fracturing it. I've known guys heal to the point where they could race in two-three weeks (obviously, not serious) and, if this is not critical, he should be back in time for le Tour.

Matt Lauer, on the other hand, should die and go to hell with a hard-on.

Forget Chuck Norris and Jack Bauerisms, we need Lance Armstrongisms.

I agree with Voyska, I broke my collar bone and I was riding in 7 weeks!

Dang, and I was looking forward to seeing him in the Giro this year...

Wrench, how are ya? great photos, I loved watching Lance dump ol' dumpy diablo in the snow, bet he got some props back at the busses that night!

The socialist way to build a road is as follows:

Contractor 1: I can build this for 2.5 billion. Reinforced concrete foundations, 40 years guarantee.

Socialist: Ok, sounds good.

Contractor 2: I can build this for 3 billion, (.25 for you and .25 for me).

Socialist: Did I hear .40 for me and .10 for you?.

Contractor 2: Sure.

Then the road lasts for four years before being botched. The same applies when you see a 5 narrow lanes bridge in Seville which looks it should have only four, but in fact it was planed initially to have 6. Traffic jams due to such narrow bridge are solved by installing radars and lowering the speed limit from 60 to 35 mph... no kidding.

BTW, in half 2008 they stole more money in speed tickets in Spain that whole 2007.

I wish we could have at least your democrats, they have a far high level of decency and integrity that what we have, so go figure folks.