Overseas Contingency Operations Against Something or Other

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I’m really not sorry to see the phrase “War on Terror” being retired by the Pentagon; it’s always seemed like a complete misnomer. You don’t fight a war against a tactic, you fight against people with an ideology. This battle would have been much better described as the “War on Militant Islam,” but our government is too hobbled by political correctness to ever be that direct and truthful.

But the problem now is that they’re retiring one misnomer and replacing it with another that’s even more vague and meaningless.

In a memo e-mailed this week to Pentagon staff members, the Defense Department’s office of security review noted that “this administration prefers to avoid using the term ‘Long War’ or ‘Global War on Terror’ [GWOT.] Please use ‘Overseas Contingency Operation.’”

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938 comments
1 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:47:45pm

This is doubleplusungood.

2 turn  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:48:15pm

WTF?

3 Dianna  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:48:29pm

It's just wrong that I'm giggling helplessly.

4 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:48:50pm

Welcome to NewSpeak.

5 Buster Bunny  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:48:58pm

Its a war against bland unspiced boiled cabbage .. aint it?

6 SummerSong  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:49:03pm

O Co

7 Armed  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:49:14pm

Yeah, because we'd hate to offend any of those terrorists.

8 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:49:19pm
Overseas Contingency Operation

That could mean anything. When we start defining things to be too broad, they mean nothing at all.

9 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:49:27pm
Overseas Contingency Operations Against Something or Other

Like, hellloooo? They're against man-made disasters, Mr. Wisenheimer.

10 joncelli  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:49:33pm

I tried to make a joke about this but it fell flat. Welcome back to September 10th.

11 Haole  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:49:55pm

The global marsh mellow fight

12 Cognito  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:50:10pm

I agree on "War on Terror," Charles. But I'm not sure "War on Militant Islam" quite works either; militancy isn't in itself illegal or lethal. It's only when you add the terror part that it becomes casus, as they say, for good belli.

13 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:50:16pm

"What are we going to use - harsh language?"

... guess not.

14 Kobalt  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:50:17pm

I can practically HEAR the terrorists LAUGHING at the USA ...

15 Wishing  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:50:48pm

So what about terrorist plots here in the USA? What do we call fighting this?

16 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:50:55pm
17 Buster Bunny  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:51:06pm

re: #11 Haole

The global marsh mellow fight

What we need is a giant 50 foot Staypuft on our side. THEN we are in fighting mode !

18 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:51:18pm

Fine. I will then refer to Obama as an Unqualified Narcissistic Incompetent rather then Dumbass.

19 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:51:29pm

The most dangerous part imho is the implication that it is all overseas... not good at all.

20 Cognito  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:51:54pm

And 'Overseas Contingency Operation' is absolutely useless.

Better, perhaps, than the sublime, 'man-caused disaster.'

21 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:00pm

Countdown to next attack.....5....4.....3....

22 livefreeor die  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:06pm

Is it clear to the terrorists what the operation is contingent on?

23 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:07pm

re: #12 Cognito

I agree on "War on Terror," Charles. But I'm not sure "War on Militant Islam" quite works either; militancy isn't in itself illegal or lethal. It's only when you add the terror part that it becomes casus, as they say, for good belli.

I see why your posts are downding magnets...

Militancy attached to Islam is, precisely, lethal. That is what turns the struggle (jihad) from a mere annoyance into murder (qital).

24 turn  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:08pm

re: #14 Kobalt

You got that right, what a friggin joke. Hey you're new, welcome.

25 gregg  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:08pm

I prefer to call this administration the "In Over Their Heads Operation".

26 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:13pm

George Orwell is laughing so hard he needs a Depends.

27 yma o hyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:19pm

re: #15 Wishing

So what about terrorist plots here in the USA? What do we call fighting this?

Home Contingency Operations?

28 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:30pm

re: #9 Occasional Reader

Like, hellloooo? They're against man-made disasters, Mr. Wisenheimer.

/man caused disasters

29 Kragar  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:34pm

Happy good time unclenching fiesta

30 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:35pm

re: #15 Wishing

So what about terrorist plots here in the USA? What do we call fighting this?

/community outreach?

31 Buster Bunny  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:39pm

re: #21 acwgusa

Countdown to next attack.....5....4.....3....

Dont worry .. next attack will be bigger. You probably wont even feel it.

32 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:40pm

Contingent on what, precisely?

33 joncelli  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:52:52pm

re: #18 acwgusa

Fine. I will then refer to Obama as an Unqualified Narcissistic Incompetent rather then Dumbass.

Your forgot the last part: Unqualified Narcissistic Incompetent Quisling (UNIQ).

34 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:53:05pm

AND...Your mother was a hampster....and your father
smells of Elderberriieeesss!
Next we'll only be able spit in they're general direction!
Sheeesh.........

35 slterry40  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:53:13pm

And in twenty years we can read in the history books how Obama valiently led our country to victory (if the word is not banned) in the 'Overseas Contingency Operation'.

This is buffonery of the highest order.

36 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:53:14pm

Could one describe the Obama Presidency as a "man-caused disaster", too?

37 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:53:21pm

re: #14 Kobalt

I can practically HEAR the terrorists LAUGHING at the USA ...

It's a brilliant plan, you see. We have laugh detectors, so when the terrorists start laughing at us, we launch the missiles,
Unfortunately, they're from the 0bama joke store, and the pop out a big banner that says "Boom!"
/

38 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:53:23pm

He's going to send in the lawyers, over there.

(To counter Pahkeestahn's crazy lawyers running through the streets)

39 Cognito  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:53:25pm

re: #23 Zimriel

I see why your posts are downding magnets...

Militancy attached to Islam is, precisely, lethal. That is what turns the struggle (jihad) from a mere annoyance into murder (qital).

Right. But you've just described my point exactly. It's the murder that deserves a shower of bombs, not the 'mere annoyance.'

40 Racer X  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:53:31pm

Have you ever killed anyone?

Yes, but they were all bad.
- Harry Tasker

41 Wishing  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:53:34pm

re: #27 yma o hyd

Home Contingency Operations?

HOW DARE YOU Contingency Operation?

42 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:53:56pm

No change according to this

43 Haole  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:54:08pm

"Wow, you guys are good" - George Orwell

44 yma o hyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:54:10pm

re: #36 irongrampa

Could one describe the Obama Presidency as a "man-caused disaster", too?

Definitely.
He did have a father, after all ...

45 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:54:13pm
Overseas Contingency Operations Against Something or Other

/against overly playful Jihad kittens

46 Buster Bunny  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:54:16pm

re: #35 slterry40

And in twenty years we can read in the history books how Obama valiently led our country to victory (if the word is not banned) in the 'Overseas Contingency Operation'.

This is buffonery of the highest order.

I'm keeping this ass on the Jimmy Carter side of history thank you. Despised, forlorn and forgotten. None of this being memorialised.

47 badger1970  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:54:20pm

re: #17 Buster Bunny

As long as they don't cross the streams, it'll be okay.

As for saying the war is not a war but a OCO is kinda like saying that the Korean War was a police action.

48 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:54:26pm

re: #36 irongrampa

Could one describe the Obama Presidency as a "man-caused disaster", too?

It was a eunuch-caused disaster.

49 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:54:27pm

re: #26 Leonidas Hoplite

George Orwell is laughing so hard he needs a Depends.

Overseas Continency Operation?

50 bj  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:54:42pm

Are you sure the wording is "memo" and not "Emo"?

51 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:54:53pm

re: #32 rawmuse

Contingent on what, precisely?

Passing the global test, and, um, some other stuff. We'll get back to you.

52 rightside  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:54:59pm

The tricky thing, goin on over there.

53 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:55:05pm

re: #42 avanti

No change according to this

No hope, either.

54 DaddyG  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:55:08pm

In related news the Department of Defense will now be named the Department of Appeasement. They will remain headquartered in the Large Building With An Undisclosed Number Of Sides Greater Than Four and command the National Volunteer Hope and Change Force.

55 Wishing  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:55:26pm

re: #42 avanti

No change according to this

So you are the guy who follows behind the dog, picking up its crap? Too freekin funny!

56 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:55:28pm

so then,
there is no terrorism from the jihadis?
omg
how can 0 be so stupid to think you can soften the terminology used to describe the savages we are fighting and think it will soften the evil they are perpetrating.

like a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
a jihadi by any other name is still a head chopping fcking barbarian out to
topple civilization.

57 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:55:33pm

re: #34 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

AND...Your mother was a hampster....and your father
smells of Elderberriieeesss!
Next we'll only be able spit in they're general direction!
Sheeesh.........

We certainly cannot fart in their general direction, because methane is a greenhouse gas.

58 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:55:43pm

re: #54 DaddyG

In related news the Department of Defense will now be named the Department of Appeasement. They will remain headquartered in the Large Building With An Undisclosed Number Of Sides Greater Than Four and command the National Volunteer Hope and Change Force.

Can I get a value meal with that?

59 turn  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:55:43pm

When I first read that I'm thinking - overseas? That would imply we don't fight terror right here in the good old USA which is BS. Remember what started this all in the first place defense department? sheesh

60 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:56:00pm

re: #25 gregg

I prefer to call this administration the "In Over Their Heads Operation".

* * * *
You nailed it! The Not Ready for Prime Time Teleprompter Gang

61 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:56:02pm

re: #42 avanti

No change according to this

Ah, the whole thing is a trial fart-balloon, then.

First an idea is leaked, then publicized, then causes outrage, then is denied by the leakers.

Got it.

62 Dianna  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:56:04pm

re: #20 Cognito

And 'Overseas Contingency Operation' is absolutely useless.

Better, perhaps, than the sublime, 'man-caused disaster.'

Equally empty, irritating and unintentionally comic, I guess.

63 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:56:10pm

re: #42 avanti

No change according to this

Damn, we've got to stop listening to these right-wing rumor mills. Like... er... the Washington Post.

64 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:56:11pm

re: #52 rightside

The tricky thing, goin on over there.

Yes, the unpleasantness.

65 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:56:23pm
66 yma o hyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:56:27pm

re: #41 Wishing

HOW DARE YOU Contingency Operation?

Heh.

It is very unfortunate that I keep misreading 'Contingency' as 'Continent' - which of course leads straight to the association with 'incontinence'.

Sorry, thats how my childish brain works - I better sit on my hands for a bit!

:-)))

67 Kobalt  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:56:28pm

re: #31 Buster Bunny

Dont worry .. next attack will be bigger. You probably wont even feel it.

Ughhh. I wish you didn't write that....but your are right.

68 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:56:29pm

re: #52 rightside

The tricky thing, goin on over there.

The Recent Unpleasantness?

69 Dianna  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:56:48pm

re: #36 irongrampa

Could one describe the Obama Presidency as a "man-caused disaster", too?

Only in the abstract.

70 who is john galt  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:56:58pm

We could call it "Operation Butterflies and Daisies" as long as we quit acting as if it is September 10th.
The name has little meaning, the capitulation to terrorist and their supporting states DOES.

71 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:57:03pm

re: #35 slterry40

And in twenty years we can read in the history books how Obama valiently led our country to victory (if the word is not banned) in the 'Overseas Contingency Operation'.

This is buffonery of the highest order.

We will read about how 0 led us to victory and that is why we must pay the dhimmi tax to those he defeated.

72 DaddyG  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:57:28pm

re: #45 Killian Bundy

/against overly playful Jihad kittens

Sand Kittens

73 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:57:35pm

re: #27 yma o hyd

Home Contingency Operations?

* * * *
Hahaha.

Except
Homeland Contingency Operations sounds too inherited from the Bush Administration.

74 gregg  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:57:57pm

re: #60 alegrias

* * * *
You nailed it! The Not Ready for Prime Time Teleprompter Gang

Or the "Global War on Common Sense".

75 AMER1CAN  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:58:01pm

Global War on Unicorns TM

76 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:58:08pm

I guess renaming it "Imperialistic Aggression Against Oppressed Insurgents" would have tipped the administration's hand too much.

77 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:58:08pm

This administration resembles a cross between the Keystone Kops and The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight.

78 DaddyG  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:58:11pm

re: #58 acwgusa

Can I get a value meal with that?

Free Waffle Fries

79 Buster Bunny  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:58:44pm

re: #71 Kosh's Shadow

We will read about how 0 led us to victory and that is why we must pay the dhimmi tax to those he defeated.

This guy is on a slippery slope down AS WE SPEAK. By the time June rolls around I'm expecting the 'people' to be in absolute rebellion against this schmuck. This will be a one-term disaster at the most.

80 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:58:47pm

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Happy good time unclenching fiesta

* * * *
As opposed to the Clinton years: Happy Good Time We Feel Your Pain Siesta

81 summergurl  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:58:54pm

Overseas Contingency Operation? What is that? Elective Surgery?

The War on Terror, which is more aptly described as a War on Radical Islamists, should not designate an area, as in overseas. The fact is that we are doing battle on our own shores as well. They are trying to put in the average Joe and Jane's mind, that this is "over there" and not here. Makes it less of an issue and less urgent and thus why fund to the extent we have been.

Someone is trying to play with our heads again---

82 Dreader1962  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:58:58pm

re: #9 Occasional Reader

Like, hellloooo? They're against man-made disasters, Mr. Wisenheimer.

Hey, that's sexist - I want them called 'person-caused interruptions of expected normal conditions'!

83 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:59:00pm

re: #68 Occasional Reader

The Recent Unpleasantness?

Troubles?

84 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:59:22pm

Operation Ostrich is in effect, President Nitwit!

85 Kragar  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:59:36pm

Due to the outcry over this, Obama has decided to change the name to the more globally correct moniker of "The War of Western Aggression"

86 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:59:46pm

I prefer "Counter Jihad"

They started it.

They named it.

And they are trying to impose a religion through violence. Not us.

87 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:59:49pm

re: #54 DaddyG

In related news the Department of Defense will now be named the Department of Appeasement. They will remain headquartered in the Large Building With An Undisclosed Number Of Sides Greater Than Four and command the National Volunteer Hope and Change Force.

When I first read this, I though it said "hindquartered". Well, the 0 has his head up his ass.

88 DaddyG  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:59:56pm

re: #81 summergurl

Overseas Contingency Operation? What is that? Elective Surgery?

Elective surgery is what will happen if ACORN gets hold of the census.

89 Cognito  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:59:57pm

I sense a disturbance in the force, as though somewhere an Iowahawk were sharpening its pencil.

90 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 1:59:58pm

I would have called it "the Global War against the murderous ingrates who killed us after all we ever did was make them rich beyond their wildest dreams"

91 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:00:00pm

re: #85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Due to the outcry over this, Obama has decided to change the name to the more globally correct moniker of "The War of Western Aggression"

Don't give him ideas!

92 Kragar  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:00:15pm

re: #83 Leonidas Hoplite

Troubles?

A spot of bother.

93 yma o hyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:00:31pm

re: #55 Wishing

So you are the guy who follows behind the dog, picking up its crap? Too freekin funny!

Aww - and from avanti's nice little link comes this quote, right at the bottom:

'"Overseas contingency operation" was in fact a budgetary term to describe the Obama administration's funding priorities, Morrell said.'

Thats what I call furiously back-pedalling when caught in the act, while desperately hiding all the turds under the cupboards.

Sorry about the mixed metaphors ...

94 snowcrash  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:00:36pm

re: #72 DaddyG
Now that is funny and gets past the censor. maybe. lol

95 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:00:39pm

re: #34 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

AND...Your mother was a hampster....and your father
smells of Elderberriieeesss!
Next we'll only be able spit in they're general direction!
Sheeesh.........

* * * *
You're so right, this is Kerry's revenge.

We unilaterally give up our spitballs without preconditions.

96 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:00:45pm
Please use ‘Overseas Contingency Operation.’”

How 'bout "Overseas Unpleasantness"........
/

97 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:01:12pm

re: #55 Wishing

So you are the guy who follows behind the dog, picking up its crap? Too freekin funny!

Nope, I just don't trust everything I read in the MSM, even the Washington Post and I do a google.

98 lifeofthemind  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:01:36pm

Bill Roggio's Long War Journal has not changed it's name.
[Link: www.longwarjournal.org...]

99 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:01:36pm

re: #86 karmic_inquisitor

I prefer "Counter Jihad"

They started it.

They named it.

And they are trying to impose a religion through violence. Not us.

Or "The Last Crusade".

We must choose wisely.

100 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:01:52pm

re: #77 irongrampa

No!
Those were both very entertaining ...in a
slapstick sort of .......Oh! I guess you are right!

101 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:02:00pm

re: #97 avanti

Nope, I just don't trust everything I read in the MSM, even the Washington Post and I do a google.

So, basically, you don't do shit.

102 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:02:10pm

International Ickyness.

103 summergurl  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:02:12pm

re: #88 DaddyG

Elective surgery is what will happen if ACORN gets hold of the census.


I don't think anyone would elect to get their nuts cut off.

104 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:02:18pm
105 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:02:24pm

re: #68 Occasional Reader

The Recent Unpleasantness?

Sorry. I was late to the thread and used the same idea after you.......
:)

106 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:02:43pm

re: #102 Sharmuta

International Ickyness.

Foreign Fist Failure To Unclench.

107 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:03:23pm

Gaze

108 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:03:29pm

So, the twin towers were overseas, were they?

I will say what has already been said but in language I try to avoid, its just that there is no other way to put it.

What the fuck is an Overseas Contingency Operation?

And ex Kiwi Prime Minister Helen Clark is to be appointed head of the UN Development Program. Sorry guys, she is coming to New York. You can have her.

109 livefreeor die  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:03:41pm

To quote Spinal Tap:
"Is this some kind of joke?"

110 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:03:43pm

re: #102 Sharmuta

International Ickyness.

Ding!

111 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:04:00pm

I have an idea to make the US even MORE harmless ... all Obama speeches will be in LOLspeak.

112 Racer X  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:04:26pm

"Acorn Optimization Project"

113 Lincolntf  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:04:41pm

re: #97 avanti

Avanti, I'll trade you an upding for that list of historical "Presidential Approval Ratings" list you once posted.
I've Googled and can't find one as concise and plain as that one.

114 Wishing  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:04:48pm

re: #86 karmic_inquisitor

I prefer "Counter Jihad"

They started it.

They named it.

And they are trying to impose a religion through violence. Not us.

I think Avanti already capitulated. He is making capital investments to pay the dhimmi tax. Hysterical.

115 Aviator  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:05:00pm

Obama seems to believe that his words have magical power. If he says it, it is reality. I think that conversely if he does not say it it does not exist. I think that is behind the renaming of terrorism and the war on terror. See - they no longer exist. Magic.

116 summergurl  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:05:02pm

re: #102 Sharmuta

International Ickyness.


How about the "Why Can't We Be Friends Campaign?

117 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:05:45pm
118 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:05:47pm

re: #76 Sharmuta

I guess renaming it "Imperialistic Aggression Against Oppressed Insurgents" would have tipped the administration's hand too much.

* * * *
Silly Sharmuta, that's what they inherited from the Bush Administration.

Obama will undertake Fraternal Missions of Mercy without Preconditions inshallah

119 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:06:04pm

re: #92 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A spot of bother.

Reminds me of Burroughs, as does no so much of what I see these days

120 lifeofthemind  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:06:07pm

Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure?

121 E.T.  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:06:08pm

Kinda reminds me of a Monte Python episode ...

122 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:06:11pm

re: #116 summergurl

How about the "Why Can't We Be Friends Campaign?

The International "Why Didn't You Respect Us In The Morning?" campaign.

123 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:06:35pm

re: #108 A Kiwi Infidel


And ex Kiwi Prime Minister Helen Clark is to be appointed head of the UN Development Program. Sorry guys, she is coming to New York. You can have her.

now I am scared... exactly what are they developing this time & how much will it cost me?

124 livefreeor die  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:06:35pm

How about Operation The-Commander-in-Chief-has-no-military-experience-and-it-shows ?

125 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:06:52pm

Has anyone yet started on Levin's new book, 'Liberty and Tyranny'? Rush is praising it to the skies as a one-of-a-kind must- read, historically accurate, Constitutionally based, guide to conservatism.

I ordered a copy yesterday; Amazon has it for $13.75.

126 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:06:55pm

The We'll suck your d**k if your nice campaign.

127 yma o hyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:07:32pm

re: #116 summergurl

How about the "Why Can't We Be Friends Campaign?

Yeah - and PB0 can send a weekly video talk to each of the offended countries - after a few months they'll either have killed themselves from sheer desperation of being exposed to this week in week out, or died laughing.

128 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:07:34pm

How about Fist Unclenching Campaign of Kindness
Because the initials say how I feel about it.

129 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:07:54pm

Talk about a fear of commitment...

130 livefreeor die  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:07:58pm

re: #128 Kosh's Shadow

How about Fist Unclenching Campaign of Kindness
Because the initials say how I feel about it.


We have a winner!

131 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:08:21pm

re: #125 pink freud

Mine just came minutes ago. I will read it and then offer it to Dianna, or any other local worthy lizard who wants it.

132 Rancher  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:08:26pm

"Overseas"? Aren't we fighting this fight right here at home? "Contingency"? Contingent on what, another attack? It's not a war anymore, so everybody can just relax? This just validates the idea that Obama was soft on terror.

133 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:08:43pm

How about "International Big Misunderstanding That Can Be Resolved With Talking And Money Transfers"?

134 Maximu§  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:08:55pm

Perhaps the “War on Terror” phrase can be replaced with "War on Grumpy Neighbors".

135 midwestgak  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:09:03pm

War is such an ugly word. It implies a fight. We don't want to fight, so we must expunge that word. Contingency better reflects our position.

Contingency. The quality or state of being contingent.

1: likely but not certain to happen : possible
2: not logically necessary ; especially : empirical
3 a: happening by chance or unforeseen causes b: subject to chance or unseen effects : unpredictable c: intended for use in circumstances not completely foreseen
4: dependent on or conditioned by something else
5: not necessitated : determined by free choice

Wishy, washy, blah, blah, blah.

136 livefreeor die  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:09:05pm

The script for Team America 2 seems to be writing itself.

137 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:09:06pm

Contingency: an event that may but is not certain to occur.

What the fuck is not certain about what happened on 9-11?

Theses are the same fucks that decided that the way to approach Russia was by giving them a Re-set button.
My daughter could come up with a more coherent policy.

138 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:09:17pm

Feh. Need to grab the lab and go walk for a bit.

139 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:09:42pm

re: #121 E.T.

Kinda reminds me of a Monte Python episode ...

This administration is comedy gold - too bad all the comedians are libtards.

140 Lincolntf  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:09:59pm

re: #124 livefreeor die

I wonder if the SOIC has ever fired a weapon in his life.

Did he do one of those obligatory "regular guy out hunting" press sessions during the campaign? I can't picture it.

141 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:10:22pm

re: #129 Noam Sayin'

Talk about a fear of commitment...

Slightly related, Drudge has a phrase up that sums it all up:

"pathologically unable to accept responsibility ...'

Describes most liberals I know.

142 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:10:48pm
143 snowcrash  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:10:54pm

re: #125 pink freud
I'm third in line for the book at my library. Sounds good.

144 livefreeor die  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:11:09pm

re: #140 Lincolntf

I wonder if the SOIC has ever fired a weapon in his life.

Did he do one of those obligatory "regular guy out hunting" press sessions during the campaign? I can't picture it.

He probably used a pop-gun or a potato shooter.

145 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:11:16pm

How about the...."I don't know what the fuck I'm doing and I'm tired anyway" Policy.

146 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:11:24pm

Why don't we rename Central Command to something like ...
... Central Request
or
... More-Or-Less-In-The-Middle-Of-Somewhere Coordination Committee ?

147 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:11:38pm

re: #131 rawmuse

Mine just came minutes ago. I will read it and then offer it to Dianna, or any other local worthy lizard who wants it.

Let us know if it's as great as they say. I'm looking forward to it; Amazon won't ship until Mar 30 for some reason.

148 Dianna  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:11:48pm

re: #131 rawmuse

Mine just came minutes ago. I will read it and then offer it to Dianna, or any other local worthy lizard who wants it.

Oooh! Me! Me! Please!

149 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:12:01pm

The enforcement of
"I Wouldn't Do That Shit If I Was You"!
Chris Rock!

150 livefreeor die  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:12:55pm

Even AP is starting to criticize Obama.

151 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:13:02pm

re: #142 ploome hineni

was it #1 at Amazon?

Yes.

152 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:13:05pm

it's a War Against the Bad Guys...no more, no less...they know who they are and we do too

153 redc1c4  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:13:09pm

how about "overseas kill the bastards operations"?

154 yma o hyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:13:15pm

Gotta go, Lizards - its Madame-time!

Seeya tomorrow, all being well.

155 livefreeor die  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:13:55pm

re: #153 redc1c4

how about "overseas kill the bastards operations"?

But "kill" is so harsh...and "bastards" might offend someone...

156 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:14:02pm

re: #153 redc1c4

how about "overseas kill the bastards operations"?

I prefer Operation Kill Bad People, Break Things.

157 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:14:03pm

re: #143 snowcrash

I'm third in line for the book at my library. Sounds good.

I usually get on the waiting lists at the library also, but this one is a keeper from what I am hearing.

/Besides, I have teenagers who need to read it when I am done. :-)

158 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:14:05pm

I'm on a conference call. The software guys are wondering why the FPGA goes into oblivion every 20 to 30 operating cycles.

heh

*boredom*

159 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:14:09pm

O.C.O.

Obama's

Chicken

Operation

160 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:14:10pm
161 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:14:17pm

re: #147 pink freud

Let us know if it's as great as they say. I'm looking forward to it; Amazon won't ship until Mar 30 for some reason.

That's when the Obama's administration's book tracking database goes live. It will track what books you are reading and produce reports for the administration on reading trends.

/

162 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:14:23pm

Let Operation Unicorn commence.

163 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:14:44pm
164 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:15:05pm

re: #154 yma o hyd

Gotta go, Lizards - its Madame-time!

yma, we really don't need to know that much about your line of work.

///

165 livefreeor die  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:15:17pm

We also seem to be in the throes of Operation Press Conference.

166 Tazzerman  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:15:24pm

Oh yes.. That'll strike fear into the hearts of our enemies. "Overseas Contingency Operation" Sounds like some sort of airline program. Do we get points?

167 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:15:26pm

re: #154 yma o hyd

Gotta go, Lizards - its Madame-time!

Seeya tomorrow, all being well.

There was thunder overhead here the moment you posted that.
Take care!

168 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:15:42pm

re: #163 ploome hineni

you suppose the NYT will review it?

lol

They will do an editorial on the wave of intolerance sweeping the nation.

169 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:15:48pm

re: #119 Guanxi88

Reminds me of Burroughs, as does no so much of what I see these days

Spot of bother there. Scalpel fight with a
colleague in the operating room. And my baboon as-
sistant leaped on the patient and tore him to pieces.
Baboons always attack the weakest party in an alterca-
tion. Quite right too. We must never forget our glorious
simian heritage. Doc Browbeck was party inna second
part. A retired abortionist and junk pusher (he was a
veterinarian actually) recalled to service during the
manpower shortage. Well, Doc had been in the hospital
kitchen all morning goosing the nurses and tanking up
on coal gas and Klim -- and just before the operation he
sneaked a double shot of nutmeg to nerve himself up."

***
"I had a Yage hangover, me, and in no condition to
take any of Browbeck's shit. First thing he comes on
with I should start the incision from the back instead of
the front, muttering some garbled nonsense about being
sure to cut out the gall bladder it would fuck up the
meat. Thought he was on the farm cleaning a chicken.
I told him to go put his head back in the oven, where-
upon he had the effrontery to push my hand severing
the patient's femoral artery. Blood spurted up and
blinded the anesthetist, who ran out through the halls
screaming. Browbeck tried to knee me in the groin, and
I managed to hamstring him with my scalpel. He
crawled about the floor stabbing at my feet and legs.
Violet, that's my baboon assistant -- only woman I ever
cared a damn about -- really wigged. I climbed up on the
table and poise myself to jump on Browbeck with both
feet and stomp him when the cops rushed in.

170 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:15:57pm
Overseas Contingency Operations

/please don't hurt us parades

171 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:16:00pm

re: #161 Walter L. Newton

Oh sure - laugh. I always buy books in person, pay in cash, and wear a hat and sunglasses.
wait - doesn't everyone?

172 jorline  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:16:16pm

"Overseas Contingency Operation."

How fucking lame can you get...I agree with Charles, War on Militant Islam says it all.

I hate window dressing...if it walks and quacks like a duck................

173 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:16:19pm

re: #143 snowcrash

I'm third in line for the book at my library. Sounds good.


Good on you, using the library. I've been doing the same - saving money and shelling out less in sales taxes.

174 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:16:28pm

re: #167 pre-Boomer Marine brat

There was thunder overhead here the moment you posted that.

Did you listen to What The Thunder Said?


/riffing on our Eliot thread earlier

175 lobo91  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:16:55pm

re: #125 pink freud

Has anyone yet started on Levin's new book, 'Liberty and Tyranny'? Rush is praising it to the skies as a one-of-a-kind must- read, historically accurate, Constitutionally based, guide to conservatism.

I ordered a copy yesterday; Amazon has it for $13.75.

$9.99 if you have a Kindle.

176 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:16:55pm

re: #174 Occasional Reader

Did you listen to What The Thunder Said?

/riffing on our Eliot thread earlier

Good on ya for the quick pick up!

177 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:17:35pm

re: #161 Walter L. Newton

That's when the Obama's administration's book tracking database goes live. It will track what books you are reading and produce reports for the administration on reading trends.

/

have you heard about the fuss over the Hillary movie?....just another couple of steps away

178 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:17:35pm

Citizens of "Oceania". We are first "Changing our name to "Obaminania".
Next, you will say"Love Offering", not TAXES.
Next, "enemies" will be replaced with "Brothers with Conflicting Life Decisions".
Next, "Stimulus" will be replaced with "Oh look! Unicorns!"
Next, kiss your ass goodbye, 'cause "0"s gunna get us killed!

179 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:17:44pm

re: #172 jorline

"Overseas Contingency Operation."

How fucking lame can you get...I agree with Charles, War on Militant Islam says it all.

I hate window dressing...if it walks and quacks like a duck................

I think it should be a stronger, more definitive, word than "Militant".
I almost updinged Cog up-thread when he said the same thing.

180 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:17:46pm

re: #176 Guanxi88

Good on ya for the quick pick up!

He's a veritable human Sham-Wow.

181 Mad Mullah  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:17:54pm

Overseas Contingency Operation?

Does Obama think that the 9-11 attacks were an Overseas Contingency Operation also?

There is a ridiculous war on drugs and a futile war on poverty but a proper war against psycho Islamic maniacs that are actively plotting to kill us shouldn't be called a war, because that might end up offending the lunatic terrorists. Obama is such an appeasing coward, and his despicable tactics are dead wrong.

Obama might try and make Americans forget who we are at war with, but his simpleminded schemes and word play will not work with anybody who has half a brain.

182 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:17:55pm
Overseas Contingency Operations

Isn't that what happens when you have funky bowel movements while vacationing in France?

183 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:17:57pm

re: #147 pink freud

Let us know if it's as great as they say. I'm looking forward to it; Amazon won't ship until Mar 30 for some reason.


Are you paying the shipping costs or did you shell out the $79 for 'prime'?

184 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:18:02pm

Hi Everyone!

Quick story: Years ago, as I was leaving a company, they were going to rename. The old name didn't fit any more, they felt. (It was a credit union and the base had expanded.)

So, new sign outside, all new stationary, make the customers learn a new name, etc. etc.

They passed around the new names. They were terrible. Really new-age, mean nothing, I-think-they-made-that-up terrible.

Nobody was going to say anything, because nobody wanted to rock the boat. But I was leaving, for sure, so I sent them a letter telling them how stupid the suggestions were, and saying they ought to look at what the members now had in common, and try to brainstorm from there.

Months later, I was still a member of the credit union, if not an employee any more. I got the monthly newsletter/statement. New name. Somebody had listened--it wasn't nearly as stupid as the suggestions. Maybe it would have happened without me, and I didn't come up with the name, but the point of my really long rambling story is:

Don't they have anybody retiring soon who can tell them this is really, really stupid? Can't anybody be honest? Or is honesty wasted in Washington right now.

185 wiffersnapper  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:18:03pm

OCO? More like LOCO

186 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:18:21pm

re: #161 Walter L. Newton

That's when the Obama's administration's book tracking database goes live. It will track what books you are reading and produce reports for the administration on reading trends.

/

I thought that was already in place?

Seriously, this book has shot to #1 at B&N and Amazon and it was released yesterday. Not a whiff of it on NYT list (they've got 'Outliers' at the top, no surprise) since Gladwell is a moonbat extraordinaire (the book was ok, I read it) ....but Levin seems to have scored solid with one.

187 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:18:37pm

re: #180 OldLineTexan

He's a veritable human Sham-Wow.

Well, I am part German. And they make good stuff.

188 wiffersnapper  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:18:41pm

Political correctness is mentally challenged

189 wiffersnapper  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:19:04pm

But we still get to call it the war on poverty?

190 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:19:11pm

re: #166 Tazzerman

Oh yes.. That'll strike fear into the hearts of our enemies. "Overseas Contingency Operation" Sounds like some sort of airline program. Do we get points?

The Operations we undertake under the new Strategy will also have to be named appropriately, of course. No more Rolling Thunder or Lightning Strike......Now it will be:
- Operation "That wasn't very nice of you"....followed by
- Operation Furrowed Brow
- Operation "Excuse us for Existing"

191 lobo91  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:19:12pm

"Overseas Contingency Operation" is a perfectly valid term that we already use, but it's a generic phrase. It doesn't refer to a specific conflict.

I think some of this stuff has been taken out of context.

192 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:19:34pm

re: #163 ploome hineni

you suppose the NYT will review it?

lol

No. LOL

They'll do all they can to pretend like it doesn't exist, like they always do with blockbuster conservative releases. That's ok, we don't need no steeenkin' NYT. :-)

193 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:19:41pm
194 wiffersnapper  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:19:43pm

So there's no such thing as terrorists or militant islamists according to revisionist history democrats. Nice!

195 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:20:03pm

re: #174 Occasional Reader

Did you listen to What The Thunder Said?

/riffing on our Eliot thread earlier

No. I've been out all afternoon. Only here (for the moment) to have something to do while the software guys scratch their heads on the conference call.

196 jorline  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:20:09pm

re: #179 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I think it should be a stronger, more definitive, word than "Militant".
I almost updinged Cog up-thread when he said the same thing.

Hi pBMb...It would get deleted if I said what I really felt. ;)

197 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:20:40pm

re: #42 avanti

No change according to this

Your link has denials. The link above says the phrase is already in use:

Coincidentally or not, senior administration officials had been publicly using the phrase "overseas contingency operations" in a war context for roughly a month before the e-mail was sent.

Peter Orszag, the OMB director, turned to it Feb. 26 when discussing Obama's budget proposal at a news conference: "The budget shows the combined cost of operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and any other overseas contingency operations that may be necessary."

And in congressional testimony last week, Craig W. Duehring, assistant secretary of the Air Force for manpower, said, "Key battlefield monetary incentives has allowed the Air Force to meet the demands of overseas contingency operations even as requirements continue to grow."

198 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:20:41pm

re: #189 wiffersnapper

But we still get to call it the war on poverty?

/the war on unredistributed wealth

199 mattm  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:20:47pm

re: #72 DaddyG

Sand Kittens

Every time time god kills a Sand Kitten. Please all day.

200 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:20:49pm

re: #175 lobo91

$9.99 if you have a Kindle.

I'm still taken by the heft and smell of a real live hold-it-in-hand book.

201 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:20:55pm

re: #193 buzzsawmonkey

And what about the class war? Huh? Huh?

Those only break out when we have a substitute teacher.

202 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:21:05pm

Over please

Cringe with me

Obfuscation

203 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:21:18pm

How about Initiative against extreme misogynistic assholes who wish to kill infidels. Too wordy?

204 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:21:22pm

re: #103 summergurl

I don't think anyone would elect to get their nuts cut off.

* * *
metrosexuals do

205 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:21:37pm

re: #200 pink freud

I'm still taken by the heft and smell of a real live hold-it-in-hand book.

Superglue a brick to your Kindle. Problem solved.

/

206 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:21:54pm

re: #196 jorline

Hi pBMb...It would get deleted if I said what I really felt. ;)

*EYES WIDEN*
*GASP*

/me too

207 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:21:56pm

re: #193 buzzsawmonkey

And what about the class war? Huh? Huh?

Domestic Largess Allocation Operations

208 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:22:09pm

re: #183 newsjunkie_ky

Are you paying the shipping costs or did you shell out the $79 for 'prime'?

I added a book thats been on my saved list for ages ... Reactive Attachment Disorder ...to make up the difference. The 79 is too high for me and I can't justify it.

209 kansas  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:22:15pm

Fucking Contingents.

210 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:22:16pm

re: #114 Wishing

I think Avanti already capitulated. He is making capital investments to pay the dhimmi tax. Hysterical.

Capitulated. Decapitulated.

Meh.

211 lobo91  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:22:56pm

re: #200 pink freud

I'm still taken by the heft and smell of a real live hold-it-in-hand book.

I like the fact that I can get a book in about 30 seconds, along with being able to have a virtually limitless library in my carryon bag. Comes in handy when you're training people for these Overseas Contingency Operations, like I do.

212 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:22:59pm

re: #177 albusteve

have you heard about the fuss over the Hillary movie?....just another couple of steps away

Speaking of Hillary..what has she been up to ? Haven't heard a peep out of her lately.

213 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:23:21pm

Operation Hot Rock

214 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:23:41pm

re: #212 Bobblehead

Speaking of Hillary..what has she been up to ? Haven't heard a peep out of her lately.

Figuring out how to say "reset" in Chinese.

215 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:24:03pm
216 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:24:04pm

re: #211 lobo91

I like the fact that I can get a book in about 30 seconds, along with being able to have a virtually limitless library in my carryon bag. Comes in handy when you're training people for these Overseas Contingency Operations, like I do.

Joining the 21st century is still quite a ways down on my list of things to do. :-)

217 Lincolntf  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:24:07pm

re: #212 Bobblehead

She's down in Mexico, still trying to figure out why she isn't in the White House.

218 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:24:20pm

re: #212 Bobblehead

Haven't heard a peep out of her lately.

Beginnings of damage control...or the lull before storm?

219 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:24:27pm

re: #212 Bobblehead

Speaking of Hillary..what has she been up to ? Haven't heard a peep out of her lately.

that's a good thing...there is a free speech scrap brewing about the movie which probably takes up alot of her time

220 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:24:34pm

re: #201 Occasional Reader

Those only break out when we have a substitute teacher.

Those only break out when we have a substitute teacher for a leader.

hurumph!

221 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:24:36pm
222 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:25:48pm

re: #16 buzzsawmonkey

The War Department used to win wars. The Defense Department, which replaced the War Department, never won a war.

The Overseas Contingency Operations Department...oh, why bother.

Are Mexico and Venezuela overseas? Just curious...

223 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:25:55pm

re: #215 buzzsawmonkey

As the SDS used to say back in the Vietnam era, they're bringing the war back home!

If that's what they wanted, then why did they keep whining about Kent State?

224 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:25:59pm

re: #214 EmmmieG

Figuring out how to say "reset" in Chinese.

It's not a word over there. It's an action.
Leaping into the Mao of the tiger.

225 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:26:22pm

re: #214 EmmmieG

Figuring out how to say "reset" in Chinese.

as they figure out how to say "repossession" in English...

226 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:26:29pm
"Please use ‘Overseas Contingency Operation.’”

What are they going to call OCO when it's domestic again?

227 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:26:36pm

re: #191 lobo91

"Overseas Contingency Operation" is a perfectly valid term that we already use, but it's a generic phrase. It doesn't refer to a specific conflict.

I think some of this stuff has been taken out of context.

According to my link, it's a budgetary term.

"Overseas contingency operation" was in fact a budgetary term to describe the Obama administration's funding priorities, Morrell said.

228 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:26:38pm

re: #180 OldLineTexan

He's a veritable human Sham-Wow.

He can't keep doing this all day!

229 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:26:43pm

i don't think o even considers the possibility that he will have to engage the
jihadis in actual battle.
he thinks he can use his winning personality and charm to bring the TERRORISTS
around. he thinks they're all really just moderates.
this despite the enemy kicking sand in his face at every gesture of conciliation
and apology he makes.
o is so dangerous because he has bought his own silly hype so completely.
he does consider himself light worker of the world and he is inviting real problems
from a vicious enemy that can't wait to bitch slap the hell out of him.

we are going to get another "man made catastrophe"
we can thank stupid o for that.

230 Mad Mullah  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:26:43pm

Obama the idiot has also just renamed World War II.

It shall now be known as the Operation against nice individuals that happened to wear equilateral crosses with its arms bent at right angles.

231 lobo91  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:27:05pm

re: #222 Spare O'Lake

Are Mexico and Venezuela overseas? Just curious...

In military parlance, yes.

"Overseas" includes anything that's not part of the 48 contiguous states.

232 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:27:17pm

re: #226 rightymouse

What are they going to call OCO when it's domestic again?

CONUSCO?

233 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:27:23pm

re: #212 Bobblehead

Speaking of Hillary..what has she been up to ? Haven't heard a peep out of her lately.

She's in Mexico blaming the U.S. for the drug trafficking problem.

/too many illegal guns floding into Mexico, Holder will need to do something about that

234 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:27:35pm

re: #227 avanti

According to my link, it's a budgetary term.

"Overseas contingency operation" was in fact a budgetary term to describe the Obama administration's funding priorities, Morrell said.

much simpler than 'war'...I get it

235 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:27:47pm
236 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:27:50pm

Instead of the curt "Overseas", they should instead use the phrase "Somewhere, Beyond the Sea". It would be a pretty Darin' move, but I think it would pay off.

237 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:28:07pm

In related news:

The Behemoth's Alcoholic Beverages Dept. will now refer to all drunken accidents as "Hobby Related Mishaps".
//

238 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:28:34pm

The most essential step in coming up with a solution is to correctly identify the problem.
Major strike out here.

239 Lincolntf  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:28:44pm

re: #227 avanti

A "budgetary term" eh?
Good to know that the war that we are fighting is getting as much attention as the budget that the Dingleberry-in-Chief didn't bother to read.

240 lobo91  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:28:57pm

re: #227 avanti

According to my link, it's a budgetary term.

"Overseas contingency operation" was in fact a budgetary term to describe the Obama administration's funding priorities, Morrell said.

I thought that's what I said in the first place.

241 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:29:48pm

re: #240 lobo91

I thought that's what I said in the first place.

chill...avanti has NO original thoughts or ideas

242 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:29:48pm
243 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:30:03pm
244 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:30:03pm

re: #236 Occasional Reader

Instead of the curt "Overseas", they should instead use the phrase "Somewhere, Beyond the Sea". It would be a pretty Darin' move, but I think it would pay off.

I think the 0ne wanted to use "Somewhere over the rainbow" but the copyright holder wouldn't let him.

245 mattm  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:30:16pm

re: #199 mattm

Every time time god kills a Sand Kitten. Please all day.

This was supposed to read:
Every time time YOU DO SOMETHING god kills a Sand Kitten. Please WHAT YOU DO all day.

In reference to the XXX Church Kittens ([Link: web2.airmail.net...]

246 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:30:24pm
247 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:30:52pm

re: #233 Killian Bundy

She's in Mexico blaming the U.S. for the drug trafficking problem.

/too many illegal guns floding into Mexico, Holder will need to do something about that


I still do not understand why she quit the Senate. She's gone from the front page to the classified in no time flat.

248 BignJames  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:30:57pm

re: #237 Slumbering Behemoth

In related news:

The Behemoth's Alcoholic Beverages Dept. will now refer to all drunken accidents as "Hobby Related Mishaps Occourences".
//


Keep 'em guessing.

249 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:31:23pm
250 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:31:32pm

re: #246 taxfreekiller

How about this:

THE WAR WITHIN AGAINST THE COMMIE DEMOCRAT PARTY

/not euphemistic enough

251 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:31:40pm

re: #239 Lincolntf
Speaking of Budgets...
The Fed Tax Code starts at 0.------..Tax rate of 7.65%
I read that as ...If you make a dollar you get to
keep .92 cents ...more or less!
Is that right?

252 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:32:11pm

The man needs to be bitch slapped by reality. re: #246 taxfreekiller

How about this:

THE WAR WITHIN AGAINST THE COMMIE DEMOCRAT PARTY

The Sixth Column?

253 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:32:27pm

These things are all positively Orwellian. If you rename something you take away it's meaning. I suppose that the message here is that we have a persistent inflammation that requires attention, but it is nothing too serious - we have a contingency.

Of course, calling it what it is would be detrimental to so many people's "narratives."

So for the record here is what it is as non-sugar coated as possible.

We are fighting a counter Jihad. The Jihadis hide behind civilians and receive vast amounts of aid, material, financial and political from our supposed allies and many of our open foes as well. Due to geopolitical and financial considerations, we try to pretend that places like Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan are not directly involved. We also pretend that the Iranis are not involved. We also like to pretend that the Russians are not trying to use the situation to their advantage.

In short, we are fighting a counter Jihad, the states that support the Jihadis and the left wing that wishes to pretend it is not a problem.

The proper and accurate military word for it is "clusterf*ck."

254 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:32:54pm

re: #232 MandyManners

CONUSCO?


Had played around with the CONUS acronym. Didn't quite work somehow, although DOTUS of CONUS was amusing.

255 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:33:27pm

re: #208 pink freud

I added a book thats been on my saved list for ages ... Reactive Attachment Disorder ...to make up the difference. The 79 is too high for me and I can't justify it.


Every thing I've seen says free with prime and not the $25 purchase. Will have to look again. Yes, the $79 is way to high, even though I did a lot of shopping with them last year. Nothing this year.

256 Lee Coller  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:33:51pm

Why don't they call it "Can't we just all be friends initiative"?

/

257 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:34:03pm
258 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:34:14pm

re: #148 Dianna

Oooh! Me! Me! Please!

OK I'll drop you an email when I am done. Looks good so far.

259 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:34:16pm

Later.

260 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:34:51pm

re: #259 Occasional Reader

Later.

Later gator.

261 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:35:22pm

re: #255 newsjunkie_ky

Every thing I've seen says free with prime and not the $25 purchase. Will have to look again. Yes, the $79 is way to high, even though I did a lot of shopping with them last year. Nothing this year.

Free with a $25 order.

262 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:35:27pm

OT - Dodd's Wife a Former Director of Bermuda-Based IPC Holdings, an AIG Controlled Company

If you haven't seen this yet...

No wonder Senator Christopher Dodd (D-Conn) went wobbly last week when asked about his February amendment ratifying hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses to executives at insurance giant AIG. Dodd has been one of the company's favorite recipients of campaign contributions. But it turns out that Senator Dodd's wife has also benefited from past connections to AIG as well.

Surprise, surprise, surprise...

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

263 Shug  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:35:40pm

25 minutes until I get to log into the U2 presale for Soldier Field.

wish me luck

264 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:35:56pm

re: #248 BignJames

Duly noted, and that's good work. Would you like a job in my Public Relations Outward Imaging Consultation Dept.?

265 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:36:03pm

re: #263 Shug

25 minutes until I get to log into the U2 presale for Soldier Field.

wish me luck


Luck......

266 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:36:09pm

re: #197 wrenchwench

I agree, but Overseas contingency operation as a budget term has nothing to do with replacing the war on terror description. For example, trouble with anywhere in the world could be a Overseas contingency operation, not even if it was not terrorism related. BTW, I feel certain that term will be replaced, since we will be fighting terrorists once the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are over.
I don't like the wars on drugs, and poverty either, war is war, different issues.

267 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:36:34pm

re: #263 Shug

25 minutes until I get to log into the U2 presale for Soldier Field.

wish me luck

Awesome..I'd love to see them..I went to Chicago to see Clapton in 2007

268 Dianna  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:36:44pm

re: #258 rawmuse

OK I'll drop you an email when I am done. Looks good so far.

Thank you!

269 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:37:10pm

re: #246 taxfreekiller

How about this:

THE WAR WITHIN AGAINST THE COMMIE DEMOCRAT PARTY

/more like extremely invasive surgery...

270 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:37:17pm

OT: Developing on Drudge; the idiot, aka treasury sec Geithner today stated he was "open" to a global currency as suggested by China and Russia. WTF?

271 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:37:18pm

re: #256 Lee Coller

Why don't they call it "Can't we just all be friends initiative"?

/


BOs world...

272 Lincolntf  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:37:38pm

re: #251 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

Dunno, but I do know that there is (used to be?) a minimum of a hundred bucks or so before taxes are calculated.
Don't know if that changed.

273 summergurl  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:38:03pm

re: #270 vagabond trader

OT: Developing on Drudge; the idiot, aka treasury sec Geithner today stated he was "open" to a global currency as suggested by China and Russia. WTF?


I saw that - heard the dollar dropped

Did you hear the THUD?

274 BignJames  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:38:06pm

re: #264 Slumbering Behemoth

Duly noted, and that's good work. Would you like a job in my Public Relations Outward Imaging Consultation Dept.?

VP of Hype?

275 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:38:45pm

How about "War against cowardly bastards that like to kill women and children"
That would be pretty succinct.

276 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:38:50pm
277 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:38:52pm

re: #267 HoosierHoops

Awesome..I'd love to see them..I went to Chicago to see Clapton in 2007

((((envy))))

278 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:39:00pm

re: #270 vagabond trader

OT: Developing on Drudge; the idiot, aka treasury sec Geithner today stated he was "open" to a global currency as suggested by China and Russia. WTF?

They are slobbering all over themselves at the idea and fruition of this whole Global Unity crap.

No surprise at all from Geithner/0bama.

279 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:39:31pm

re: #275 LGoPs

How about "War against cowardly bastards that like to kill women and children"
That would be pretty succinct.


Sadly, way too succinct!

280 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:39:39pm

re: #267 HoosierHoops

Awesome..I'd love to see them..I went to Chicago to see Clapton in 2007

I'd rather see the subdudes any day....jus sayin

281 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:39:43pm

re: #262 Walter L. Newton

OT - Dodd's Wife a Former Director of Bermuda-Based IPC Holdings, an AIG Controlled Company

If you haven't seen this yet...

Surprise, surprise, surprise...

282 Egregious Philbin  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:40:02pm

"Hey all you terrorists, stop!, or I will be forced to ask you to stop again in a slightly elevated voice!"

Obama = Mall Cop

283 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:40:05pm

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton set out for Mexico Wednesday to pursue a broad diplomatic agenda that will be overshadowed by spiraling drug RECREATIONAL CHEMICAL violence MELLOWS BEING HARSHED and fears UNCOMFORTABLE THOUGHTS of greater cross-borderUNNECESSARY IMAGINARY LINE spillover CROSS CULTURAL EXCHANGE.

284 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:40:11pm

re: #280 albusteve

I'd rather see the subdudes any day....jus sayin


tsk tsk

285 summergurl  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:40:21pm

re: #256 Lee Coller

Why don't they call it "Can't we just all be friends initiative"?

/

Great minds think alike - see #116

286 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:40:23pm

re: #270 vagabond trader

OT: Developing on Drudge; the idiot, aka treasury sec Geithner today stated he was "open" to a global currency as suggested by China and Russia. WTF?

We already have a global currency, the U.S. Dollar. It's used by terrorists and drug cartels all over the world.

287 Querent  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:40:50pm

re: #131 rawmuse

we'll just pass it around the Bay.

(Lizard Book Club)

288 midwestgak  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:41:07pm

re: #270 vagabond trader

OT: Developing on Drudge; the idiot, aka treasury sec Geithner today stated he was "open" to a global currency as suggested by China and Russia. WTF?

But he changed his rhetoric after the OB handlers told him that OB denied being open to it in his Q and A last night.

289 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:41:16pm

re: #282 Egregious Philbin

"Hey all you terrorists, stop!, or I will be forced to ask you to stop again in a slightly elevated voice!"

Obama = Mall Cop


Strongly worded letters are the order of the day, so very UN

290 lobo91  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:41:29pm

re: #267 HoosierHoops

Awesome..I'd love to see them..I went to Chicago to see Clapton in 2007

I managed to get tickets to see Clapton with Steve Winwood at the Pepsi Center in June.

That should be a good show.

291 Scorch  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:41:37pm

Overseas Contingency Plan? Uh, I assume they are forgetting we have had our embassys, ships and our buildings in New York bombed by these nut balls. Hate to tell them but the war is on our soil with these idiots and that does not even count the war we are in with our own administration.

292 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:42:06pm

re: #273 summergurl

Now look, let's not go all negative, I do not want to comprimise my $12.00 fed tax refund.

293 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:42:15pm

re: #290 lobo91

I managed to get tickets to see Clapton with Steve Winwood at the Pepsi Center in June.

That should be a good show.

gar un teed....luck you, it will be a monster

294 Piglet-U93  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:42:42pm

So, when is the Obama's War Is Peace Dictionary to be release from the Ministry of Obscure?

295 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:42:51pm

re: #288 midwestgak

But he changed his rhetoric after the OB handlers told him that OB denied being open to it in his Q and A last night.

Yes, 0bama doesn't like any currency he can't print more of.

296 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:43:06pm

An overseas contingency plan means you carry some local currency, keep a photocopy of your passport in a safe place, confirm your reservations, and know where the American embassy is.

297 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:43:11pm

Better go and do something constructive, perhaps even "contingent"

BBIAW

298 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:43:16pm

Change you'll die for. . .///

299 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:43:33pm

re: #289 A Kiwi Infidel

Strongly worded letters are the order of the day, so very UN

Obama and the Democrats could threaten to make them all citizens and then tax the shit out of them. That would give them pause.

300 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:43:42pm

OT, Mark McKinnon was explaining Service Employees International Union (SEIU)'s "Domestic Contingency Operations to Remove Your Secret Ballot" on Glenn Beck's show--exposing the seedy underside of Obama's supporters.

(This union of cleaning people somehow contributed $30 million to Obama, and nearly half a BILLION to other democrats this last election, in order to push through the anti-secret ballot legislation. Andy Stern is their leader and a big creepy Soros like thug)

301 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:43:47pm

re: #278 pink freud

People are still calling them naive. Ghastly!

302 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:44:00pm
303 faraway  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:44:09pm

Operation Hasty Virgins

304 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:44:11pm

re: #295 Kosh's Shadow

Yes, 0bama doesn't like any currency he can't print more of.

he may warm up if they put his face on it...

305 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:44:21pm

re: #274 BignJames

VP of Hype?

The title would be "Situated Person of Concerted Message Management". Pays about the same, though.

306 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:44:34pm

re: #299 LGoPs

Obama and the Democrats could threaten to make them all citizens and then tax the shit out of them. That would give them pause.


Thats a bloody good idea, especially if Aunty Helen is over there with her snout in the pig trough.

307 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:44:49pm

re: #289 A Kiwi Infidel

Strongly worded letters are the order of the day, so very UN

Don't make him use his walkie talkie. . .

308 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:45:19pm

re: #288 midwestgak

The CHANGE and obfuscation makes me even more uneasy. It's the tactic of lying schemers.

309 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:45:58pm

Let's all go and continge some terrorists.

310 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:46:07pm
‘Overseas Contingency Operation.’

No one on the left, or the right will ever use that name. Nor will any future historians looking back on our era.

For better or worse, most people will call it the "War on Terror".

311 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:46:09pm

Also off topic, but I wish to weigh in on the cold fusion thing from a physics viewpoint.

Nuclear fusion reactions release large amounts of neutrons. In fact, a neutron bomb is little more than a very high efficiency fusion bomb (or H bomb). We actually understand fusion processes very well.

One problem with reports that researchers have seen fast neutrons floating around is that they are still alive. Proper precautions can be taken, and perhaps (and I say perhaps with the biggest possible grain of salt) that whatever they are doing produces so few events that there is no real danger.

A stronger argument comes from the curve of binding energy and the potential that needs to be overcome in order to cause fusion. Positively charged nuclei repel - they repel very very strongly. If you bash them together hard enough and in the right way, short range nuclear forces (which are stronger than E&M can take over, but you have to over come the very strong, long range, EM potential barrier first.)

The ways that this happens in nature are very violent and very powerful. In a star, the massive gravity of the star itself presses down on the nuclei until they fuse. In an H-bomb, we use the shock wave of an atomic blast to compress the nuclei together. In controlled fusion experiments we use very powerful Tokamaks or huge, almost death star like (many many megawatts) lasers to do it. I simply do not believe that any chemical reaction could possibly have enough energy to overcome the potential barrier.

I am deeply, deeply skeptical and I would bet a large amount of money that whatever signal these researchers have seen will turn out to be the result of a systematic error.

312 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:46:48pm

re: #307 DisturbedEma

Don't make him use his walkie talkie. . .

* * *
Obama could send a strongly worded Twitter.

313 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:46:52pm

re: #308 vagabond trader

The CHANGE and obfuscation makes me even more uneasy. It's the tactic of lying schemers.

so you are saying it is the work of zero and his band of crooked men and women?

314 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:47:29pm

re: #309 Bobblehead

Let's all go and continge some terrorists.

* * * *
First you gotta subpoena them!

315 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:47:50pm

re: #306 A Kiwi Infidel

Thats a bloody good idea, especially if Aunty Helen is over there with her snout in the pig trough.

Helen?

316 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:48:11pm

re: #311 LudwigVanQuixote

/Party pooper.

317 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:48:45pm

re: #309 Bobblehead

Let's all go and continge some terrorists.


/uhhh, dat would involve some kinda profiling I thinks...

318 Eowyn2  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:48:52pm

WWII was merely a Multinational Contingency Plan

319 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:48:58pm

Anyone who believes The Obama to be naive really needs to read David Freddroso's book,The Case Against Barack Obama.Nothing naive about this socialist.

320 faraway  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:48:59pm

Discussions with Misunderstood Cultures

321 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:49:00pm

re: #308 vagabond trader

The CHANGE and obfuscation makes me even more uneasy. It's the tactic of lying schemers.

Another thing they do is use children as props. Remember that gathering about a week ago where Obama called on an 8 year old and the kid was asking him about school budgets. Freaking kid couldn't even pronounce the word. Goddamn his parents.
There is nothing that makes me see red more than a politician manipulating kids. It's the political equivalent of what the terrorists do when they hide behind women and children.

322 midwestgak  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:49:28pm

re: #308 vagabond trader

The CHANGE and obfuscation makes me even more uneasy. It's the tactic of lying schemers.

Right. The rhetoric changed, not the heart/intent.

323 Shug  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:49:47pm

The Big N Rich guy was just on Glenn Beck. He was great.

gonna sing after the commercial, I think

324 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:50:53pm

re: #311 LudwigVanQuixote

I understood:

Also off topic, but...


///

325 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:51:42pm
326 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:51:55pm

We are of course only fighting ourselves, the world is all illusion and all effort takes us further from enlightenment.
/barf


Anyway, what are the appropriate weapons with which to fight contingency?

327 faraway  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:51:56pm

Lets call it March Madness

328 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:52:25pm

re: #321 LGoPs

Another thing they do is use children as props. Remember that gathering about a week ago where Obama called on an 8 year old and the kid was asking him about school budgets. Freaking kid couldn't even pronounce the word. Goddamn his parents.
There is nothing that makes me see red more than a politician manipulating kids. It's the political equivalent of what the terrorists do when they hide behind women and children.

and he wants 649,999 more...

329 Wendya  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:52:44pm

re: #15 Wishing

So what about terrorist plots here in the USA? What do we call fighting this?

Law enforcement.

Terrorist attacks are apparently no different than bank robberies to this administration.

330 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:53:02pm

re: #321 LGoPs

He's a cynical pos, NOT a silly naive mouse as some here seem to believe. Yeah, lots of comedy material, but let's keep our eyes open and let the congress critters know we'll not put up with them defecating on the Constitution.

331 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:53:11pm

re: #325 buzzsawmonkey

If drivel were dollars, this Administration would have no problems funding whatever it liked.

If drool were dollars the MSM could finance our national debt.

332 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:53:24pm

Why not call it "International Appeasement Opportunity"?

333 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:53:25pm

re: #326 itellu3times

We are of course only fighting ourselves, the world is all illusion and all effort takes us further from enlightenment.
/barf


Anyway, what are the appropriate weapons with which to fight contingency?

the drones seem to be working OK...

334 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:53:36pm

re: #236 Occasional Reader

Instead of the curt "Overseas", they should instead use the phrase "Somewhere, Beyond the Sea". It would be a pretty Darin' move, but I think it would pay off.

Punhound.

335 Scorch  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:53:42pm

re: #319 vagabond trader

Anyone who believes The Obama to be naive really needs to read David Freddroso's book,The Case Against Barack Obama.Nothing naive about this socialist.

This Obama, Biden, Clinton, Reid and Pelosi team anti america are really starting to get under my skin. The crap that comes out of their mouthes everyday is mind numbing.

336 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:54:41pm

re: #332 Sharmuta

Why not call it "International Appeasement Opportunity"?

Why not Operation Yellow Stripe?

337 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:54:42pm

re: #311 LudwigVanQuixote

Very nice lucid post on science..
I asked Dr. C one of the world's leading physics professor to comment on this story..He'll post soon I'm sure..
[Link: coraifeartaigh.wordpress.com...]

338 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:54:43pm

re: #330 vagabond trader

He's a cynical pos, NOT a silly naive mouse as some here seem to believe. Yeah, lots of comedy material, but let's keep our eyes open and let the congress critters know we'll not put up with them defecating on the Constitution.

You're right about that. He is a committed idealogue. What many interpret as naivite is really just spectacularly bad judgement. Either way, it's the kind that gets you either enslaved or killed.

339 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:54:49pm

The Obama administration has declared war on reason.
And they will take no prisoners.

340 Querent  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:54:52pm

lotsa good zingers today -- i'm about runnin' out of updings...

341 austin_blue  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:55:07pm

re: #309 Bobblehead

Let's all go and continge some terrorists.

Why not? I remember in Gulf War I when we stopped killing Iraqi troops during the aviation phase of that Op. All of a sudden they were being "attrited". "Well," I thought, "Isn't that special. They have verbized attrition. So much more digestible."

Eighteen years later and its still the same old game at the DoD.

342 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:55:24pm

re: #323 Shug

The Big N Rich guy was just on Glenn Beck. He was great.

gonna sing after the commercial, I think

* * * *
"Tin Overseas Contingency Operations people & Obama Coming,
This Summer I hear them strumming
Four Jihadi Friends in Ohio"

(sorry lame attempt to make fun of Crosby Stills Nash & YOung's anti-WAR songs)

343 jorline  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:55:37pm

re: #327 faraway

Lets call it March Madness

Next week we can call it April Antics.

344 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:56:05pm

re: #335 Scorch

This Obama, Biden, Clinton, Reid and Pelosi team anti america are really starting to get under my skin. The crap that comes out of their mouthes everyday is mind numbing.

STARTING? I would love to take lessons in patience from you!

345 faraway  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:56:06pm

re: #343 jorline

Next week we can call it April Antics.

Or April Fools

346 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:56:24pm

re: #330 vagabond trader

He's a cynical pos, NOT a silly naive mouse as some here seem to believe. Yeah, lots of comedy material, but let's keep our eyes open and let the congress critters know we'll not put up with them defecating on the Constitution.

* * *
and pissing away our tax dollars.

347 midwestgak  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:56:38pm

re: #343 jorline

Next week we can call it April Antics Fools.

{jorline}
sorry. had to.

348 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:56:51pm

And where the fug is that dog they were supposedly getting the girls.

349 BakaRanger  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:56:52pm

Not to worry! We have interrogation techniques for a changing world.

350 austin_blue  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:56:53pm

Ugh. "it's"

PIMF

351 faraway  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:57:14pm

re: #348 vagabond trader

And where the fug is that dog they were supposedly getting the girls.

Operation Pimped Pups

352 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:57:18pm

re: #341 austin_blue

Why not? I remember in Gulf War I when we stopped killing Iraqi troops during the aviation phase of that Op. All of a sudden they were being "attrited". "Well," I thought, "Isn't that special. They have verbized attrition. So much more digestible."

Eighteen years later and its still the same old game at the DoD.

I always liked the term "Servicing targets"..........
I thought - do you want me to shoot the fuckers or check their oil?

353 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:57:23pm

Science Slams Journalists:

Spider Bite Cures Paralyzed Man: Miracle or Bad Reporting?

It sounds like something out of the pages of The Weekly World News, right next to an alien abduction story: Paralyzed California man bit by brown recluse spider walks again. Only it was reported for real last week on CNN, ABC, NBC and CBS.

Yes, a miracle - a miracle this could make the evening news, for this was a phenomenally poorly reported story bereft of the simplest of fact-checking. Of the three basic facts reported by these apparently professional journalists - paralyzed man, brown recluse spider, and walking - two are surely false.

Yet more than just another example of lousy broadcast journalism, such stories bring false hopes and even danger to those desperate enough to experiment with venom to cure their paralysis.

Talk to a doctor

Heh

354 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:57:24pm

re: #338 LGoPs

You're right about that. He is a committed idealogue. What many interpret as naivite is really just spectacularly bad judgement. Either way, it's the kind that gets you either enslaved or killed.

I thought at first that it was terminal naivete, or stupidity, but no one, no matter how stupid, makes such a string of mistakes that fit together. No, one mistake partially cancels another, like a drunkard's walk goes forward and backward, only slowly going further and further.
No, these actions fit together too well to be mistakes. He is deliberately ruining the country.

355 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:57:31pm

Later, people, I am going to read this book. It looks positively captivating.
I hope it is enough to stem this steady onslaught of socialist bullshit.

But, I doubt it. The only thing that will work is hardship, shared across the entire demographic spectrum, as the inevitable result of the socialists doing the only thing that they are truly capable of, which is impoverishing all of us equally. I have seen their work in other countries, and now I fear it is our turn to drink deeply from this bitter cup.

356 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:57:39pm

re: #343 jorline

Next week we can call it April Antics.

After that comes Mother May I?

357 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:57:50pm

re: #343 jorline

Next week we can call it April Antics.

Next week he'll be at the G20 summit, with myriad fresh opportunities to insult our allies and look like an ass.

Global Recession, Security Challenges Test Obama's Popularity Among World Leaders

358 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:57:52pm

re: #308 vagabond trader

The CHANGE and obfuscation makes me even more uneasy. It's the tactic of lying schemers.

The language of tyrants.

359 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:57:57pm

re: #19 brookly red

The most dangerous part imho is the implication that it is all overseas... not good at all.

Yes, yes, yes.

360 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:58:08pm

re: #341 austin_blue

Why not? I remember in Gulf War I when we stopped killing Iraqi troops during the aviation phase of that Op. All of a sudden they were being "attrited". "Well," I thought, "Isn't that special. They have verbized attrition. So much more digestible."

Eighteen years later and its still the same old game at the DoD.

The Contingency Tingle. That very special feeling the Pentagon has for terrorists.re: #351 faraway

Operation Pimped Pups

361 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:58:32pm

re: #351 faraway

What was with the bad mouthing of LGF at HotAir yesterday?

362 jorline  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:58:43pm

re: #345 faraway

Or April Fools

That comes with a Trojan Horse on the first?

btw...Trojan's are now made in China.

363 Scorch  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:58:44pm

Looks like you ladies and gents have everything under control. Have a good evening, later all.

364 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:58:45pm

re: #339 HelloDare

The Obama administration has declared war on reason.
And they will take no prisoners.

* * * *
They're just perfecting the Clinton Administration's "WAR ROOM" contingency operations against Vast Right Wing Conspiracies.

365 Kragar  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:58:47pm

Hooray! Actual work accomplished today without needless distractions!

366 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:58:52pm

I like War on Terror because it focuses the mind on carnage and terror. most people have a "normality bias" believing things will continue to be how they are now, normal. How about War on Terrorists? That's more accurate.

Someone else recommended World War 911.

367 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:58:52pm

re: #348 vagabond trader

And where the fug is that dog they were supposedly getting the girls.

They haven't found a dog that can stand the adult 0bamas.

368 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:59:11pm

re: #354 Kosh's Shadow

I thought at first that it was terminal naivete, or stupidity, but no one, no matter how stupid, makes such a string of mistakes that fit together. No, one mistake partially cancels another, like a drunkard's walk goes forward and backward, only slowly going further and further.
No, these actions fit together too well to be mistakes. He is deliberately ruining the country.

yes

369 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:59:16pm

re: #311 LudwigVanQuixote

I forget the exact early P&F theory, but it was something along the lines of certain physical structures holding components close enough together that even EM could allow them to tunnel to the lower nuclear energy state, eg fuse.

I agree, it seems increasingly unlikely that this lovely scenario turns out to be how things actually are.

370 red satellite  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:59:22pm
...“this administration prefers to avoid using the term ‘Long War’ .

So a hundred years from now, I'll make sure my great grandson bitchslaps you.

371 Kragar  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:59:28pm

re: #367 Kosh's Shadow

They haven't found a dog that can stand the adult 0bamas.

Animals can sense evil

372 Maximu§  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:59:32pm

Overseas Contingency Operation?

My oldest boy's Brigade is heading to Afghanistan in November and he's pretty clear on the enemy he faces....the ones who chop off heads, shoot teachers, murder female family members and blow up innocent civilians.

Their called Islamic Radicals and their death-cult needs to stomped into the dirt.

373 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:59:33pm

re: #360 Bobblehead

How the h did I do that?

374 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:59:43pm

re: #308 vagabond trader

The CHANGE and obfuscation makes me even more uneasy. It's the tactic of lying schemers.

It's the language of tyrants.

375 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:59:52pm

re: #362 jorline

That comes with a Trojan Horse on the first?

btw...Trojan's are now made in China.

leaded or unleaded?

376 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 2:59:58pm

re: #354 Kosh's Shadow

He's throwing every leftist social and economic engineering fantasy at the wall and watching to see what sticks. So far it's working.

377 faraway  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:00:05pm

re: #353 Sharmuta

Hey, those things are wicked. I lost a hunk of skin once.

378 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:00:09pm

The administration is just being frugal. It's saving all the really tough words for Fox News.

379 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:00:37pm

re: #349 BakaRanger

Not to worry! We have interrogation techniques for a changing world.

I really love Montey Python, but the Spanish Inqusition skit gets a down ding big time.

380 faraway  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:00:41pm

re: #356 pre-Boomer Marine brat

After that comes Mother May I?

Sounds like we have a case of National PMS

381 hazzyday  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:00:45pm

It probably took a million dollars or so to come up with OCO. Operation Colbert Overload.

382 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:01:01pm

re: #355 rawmuse

Later, people, I am going to read this book. It looks positively captivating.
I hope it is enough to stem this steady onslaught of socialist bullshit.

But, I doubt it. The only thing that will work is hardship, shared across the entire demographic spectrum, as the inevitable result of the socialists doing the only thing that they are truly capable of, which is impoverishing all of us equally. I have seen their work in other countries, and now I fear it is our turn to drink deeply from this bitter cup.

* * * **
NEVER, I'm going to spit their bitter juice at them, no WAY am I going to drink their bitter Koolaid.

383 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:01:32pm

re: #356 pre-Boomer Marine brat

MWAH!

384 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:02:02pm

re: #367 Kosh's Shadow

Thankfully for the pooch. Believe me, they are not animal lovers. They barely tolerate people.

385 jorline  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:02:25pm

re: #347 midwestgak

{jorline}
sorry. had to.

That's OK...change what you want...as long as I get a hug.

{gak}

386 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:02:25pm

re: #372 Maximu§

Overseas Contingency Operation?

My oldest boy's Brigade is heading to Afghanistan in November and he's pretty clear on the enemy he faces....the ones who chop off heads, shoot teachers, murder female family members and blow up innocent civilians.

Their called Islamic Radicals and their death-cult needs to stomped into the dirt.

God bless you and yours. My son is joining the Air Force and we've been trying to talk him out of it. We know lots of people getting out.

387 BignJames  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:03:10pm

re: #348 vagabond trader

And where the fug is that dog they were supposedly getting the girls.

I think they decided on Chris Matthews instead.

388 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:03:22pm

re: #380 faraway

Sounds like we have a case of National PMS

I'm moving outta the way ... in case Mandy takes a swing!

(-:

389 jorline  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:03:22pm

re: #356 pre-Boomer Marine brat

After that comes Mother May I?

Yes you may.

390 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:03:41pm

re: #378 HelloDare

The administration is just being frugal. It's saving all the really tough words for Fox News.

* * **
Yes,
them's fighting words!

391 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:04:20pm

re: #387 BignJames

Good choice, and I suspect he'll become incontinent every time he gazes upon The Obama.

392 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:05:01pm

re: #355 rawmuse

Later, people, I am going to read this book. It looks positively captivating.
I hope it is enough to stem this steady onslaught of socialist bullshit.

But, I doubt it. The only thing that will work is hardship, shared across the entire demographic spectrum, as the inevitable result of the socialists doing the only thing that they are truly capable of, which is impoverishing all of us equally. I have seen their work in other countries, and now I fear it is our turn to drink deeply from this bitter cup.

I wish that we would have seen more commercials with Easter European immigrants warning us of the dangers of socialism and what they've lived through and begging us not to go that direction. I think the left is sufficiently indoctrinated that you need a de-programming approach to get through the defense mechanisms.

393 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:05:23pm

re: #341 austin_blue

Why not? I remember in Gulf War I when we stopped killing Iraqi troops during the aviation phase of that Op. All of a sudden they were being "attrited". "Well," I thought, "Isn't that special. They have verbized attrition. So much more digestible."

Eighteen years later and its still the same old game at the DoD.

Off the coast of Vietnam, we'd engage "Wiblics" (water borne logistic craft) with our 3 inch guns. I pictured shiny gray patrol craft flying the North Vietnamese flag, but it turned out they often were small wooden boats with a basket of fish.

394 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:05:27pm

re: #383 goddessoftheclassroom

MWAH!

OMG!
Hilarious!

*Lofts ball back in a high arc over the net*

395 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:05:29pm

re: #381 hazzyday

It probably took a million dollars or so to come up with OCO. Operation Colbert Overload.

Well, after he tried to get a space station module named after himself, Colbert might get the space station toilet instead:
NASA Might Name Toilet For Comedian Stephen Colbert

396 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:05:34pm

faraway...#361...just curious

397 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:06:00pm

re: #348 vagabond trader

And where the fug is that dog they were supposedly getting the girls.

2 little girls & 300 some-odd other Americans learn the hard way that politicians LIE.

398 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:06:10pm

re: #372 Maximu§

I know a kid who just went over and he's itching to dispatch a few to their raisins.Good luck to him.

399 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:06:28pm

Rumor has is that Obama will finally get tough with Iran and ask the U.N. to implement a Time Out. White House sources refused to comment.

400 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:06:33pm

AHOY,
There's Budget Mutiny amongst Democrats!

Woohoo, but lookout-- here come contingent operations by ACORN leg breakers against recalcitrant democrats.

401 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:06:38pm

re: #391 vagabond trader

Good choice, and I suspect he'll become incontinent every time he gazes upon The Obama.

"The Incontinent Tingle Contingency"

402 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:06:43pm

www.thebigtalker.com

Don Giordono interviewing Phil Dohanue who is defending Norte Dame inviting the Presdient

Listen live

403 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:07:10pm

re: #389 jorline

Yes you may.

Oh goody!

404 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:07:42pm

re: #399 HelloDare

Rumor has is that Obama will finally get tough with Iran and ask the U.N. to implement a Time Out. White House sources refused to comment.

Ahmadinejad refused to go to the time-out corner because "Jews will shoot spitballs at me! And my spitball-making centrifuges haven't made enough spitballs yet!"

405 BignJames  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:07:51pm

re: #391 vagabond trader

Good choice, and I suspect he'll become incontinent every time he gazes upon The Obama.


I hear he's a great leg humper.

406 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:07:54pm

re: #402 DistantThunder

www.thebigtalker.com

Don Giordono interviewing Phil Dohanue who is defending Norte Dame inviting the Presdient

Listen live

Correction 1210

407 jorline  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:08:18pm

See you later tonight all.

408 Tantor  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:08:32pm

How about "Overseas Faith-Based Initiatives"?

Better?

409 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:08:49pm

re: #405 BignJames

Side effect of the tingles. Involuntary deity leg humping.

410 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:08:50pm

re: #407 jorline

See you later tonight all.

After while crocodile.

411 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:09:23pm

re: #393 avanti

Off the coast of Vietnam, we'd engage "Wiblics" (water borne logistic craft) with our 3 inch guns. I pictured shiny gray patrol craft flying the North Vietnamese flag, but it turned out they often were small wooden boats with a basket of fish.

So you are saying the US Navy during Vietnam blew up fishing boats?
A whoopsie moment? Dang we just blew up that little fishing boat full of baskets of fish...
What Navy did you retire from you fuck?

412 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:09:27pm

re: #399 HelloDare

Rumor has is that Obama will finally get tough with Iran and ask the U.N. to implement a Time Out. White House sources refused to comment.

If I were in charge the next step after a timeout would be to send them to bed without their.......heads.
/

413 Kragar  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:09:46pm

re: #400 alegrias

AHOY,
There's Budget Mutiny amongst Democrats!

Woohoo, but lookout-- here come contingent operations by ACORN leg breakers against recalcitrant democrats.

Lets just hope we can avoid the Crimson Permanent Assurance!

414 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:10:04pm

re: #411 HoosierHoops

So you are saying the US Navy during Vietnam blew up fishing boats?
A whoopsie moment? Dang we just blew up that little fishing boat full of baskets of fish...
What Navy did you retire from you fuck?

I think he was on the side that had the fishing boats.......

415 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:10:18pm

re: #386 DistantThunder

God bless you and yours. My son is joining the Air Force and we've been trying to talk him out of it. We know lots of people getting out.

Are you opposed to him going in the military, or just the Air Force? The problem with the Air Force - aside from the fact that it's not actually a branch of the military ;) - is how slowly you get promoted. My Navy son and his Air Force girlfriend entered around the same time and went through A school together. She is still an E3 and he just took the E5 advancement exam.

416 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:10:54pm

You gotta sign neutrality (non-aggression pacts?) agreements with nasty union organizers, or they'll break your legs.

(Fox News story on Dana Corporation employees disgusted by UAW union thugs trying to unionize this little business in Albion, Indiana).

417 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:11:02pm

re: #393 avanti

Off the coast of Vietnam, we'd engage "Wiblics" (water borne logistic craft) with our 3 inch guns. I pictured shiny gray patrol craft flying the North Vietnamese flag, but it turned out they often were small wooden boats with a basket of fish.

You pictured them with big red targets painted on the side?

418 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:11:33pm

re: #416 alegrias

You gotta sign neutrality (non-aggression pacts?) agreements with nasty union organizers, or they'll break your legs.

(Fox News story on Dana Corporation employees disgusted by UAW union thugs trying to unionize this little business in Albion, Indiana).

Just watched that. They went to that poor woman's home!

419 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:11:55pm

Obama Commie Operation

420 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:12:09pm

re: #324 Slumbering Behemoth

I understood:


///

Another way to look at it is like this:

Imagine that you have two widgets that will snap together and hold if you can get them close enough to snap them together. Now also imagine that there is a really strong spring between them and that you can not get rid of the spring. The only way to snap them togher is to be strong enough to compress the spring.

Imagine you have done all manner of tests on that spring and you know that it takes at least two really beefy guys to use all of their might to press the spring down so that the widgets can snap together. Now say some little kid comes up to you and says, "no problem, I can press it together with one hand." Would you be skeptical?

In essence the Chemists are arguing that somehow they have made the spring (the electromagnetic force) go away, get weakened, or otherwise stop being an issue. I doubt very much that this is possible.

421 hazzyday  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:12:12pm

re: #353 Sharmuta

Science Slams Journalists:

Spider Bite Cures Paralyzed Man: Miracle or Bad Reporting?

Heh

I saw this guy on the local news. He said he was bit by a spider and had some feeling in his legs again where he didn't have before. I didn't get the impression he was walking again but was still in physical therapy. His legs did look somewhat emaciated.

422 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:12:31pm

Love when Mark Levin gets all righteously wound up. He's a very smart guy too.

423 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:12:39pm

re: #393 avanti

Off the coast of Vietnam, we'd engage "Wiblics" (water borne logistic craft) with our 3 inch guns. I pictured shiny gray patrol craft flying the North Vietnamese flag, but it turned out they often were small wooden boats with a basket of fish.

What the fuck did YOU engage? You told us you were involved in electronics, not firing 3 inch guns.

424 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:12:48pm

Geithner Speaks, World Scratches Head

I still can't figure out what this guy's position is - are there any currency gurus here?

However, I like the snipes coming at this administration:

China is the largest foreign holder of U.S. Treasuries, and Premier Wen Jiabao earlier this month expressed concern about the value of its investment. Central bank governor Zhou this week advocated a “super-sovereign reserve currency” that’s disconnected from any individual nation.

McCormick at Citigroup said it was a concern that Geithner said he hadn’t read Zhou’s comments. “If I’m running the Treasury I would want to have been briefed on that.”

425 hazzyday  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:13:11pm

re: #395 Kosh's Shadow

Well, after he tried to get a space station module named after himself, Colbert might get the space station toilet instead:
NASA Might Name Toilet For Comedian Stephen Colbert

BRB I have to visit the Colbert.

426 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:13:28pm

re: #399 HelloDare

Rumor has is that Obama will finally get tough with Iran and ask the U.N. to implement a Time Out. White House sources refused to comment.

And a strongly worded message will also be sent, this time in all capital letters.

427 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:13:40pm

Can Obama do anything right? I'd be willing to bet he picked the wrong puppy.

428 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:14:02pm

re: #427 HelloDare

Prolly more like a weasel.

429 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:14:21pm

re: #422 vagabond trader

Love when Mark Levin gets all righteously wound up. He's a very smart guy too.

I heard him on Rush today. Can't wait to get his book.

430 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:14:24pm

re: #393 avanti

Off the coast of Vietnam, we'd engage "Wiblics" (water borne logistic craft) with our 3 inch guns. I pictured shiny gray patrol craft flying the North Vietnamese flag, but it turned out they often were small wooden boats with a basket of fish.

Sounds like you watch too many movies. Just sayin'.

431 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:14:28pm

re: #418 loppyd

Just watched that. They went to that poor woman's home!

* * * *
Sorry it's come to this in the USA.

The communists came to our doors in Spain in the 1970s, doing "community organizing" of the threatening sort. Very creepy when they threaten you on your own doorstep, and you cannot defend yourself.

432 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:14:28pm

re: #427 HelloDare

Can Obama do anything right? I'd be willing to bet he picked the wrong puppy.

The puppy would agree. ;)

433 hazzyday  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:14:29pm

re: #424 Russkilitlover

Geithner Speaks, World Scratches Head

I still can't figure out what this guy's position is - are there any currency gurus here?

However, I like the snipes coming at this administration:

Who is better with currency? The corrupt communist or the corrupt capitalist?

434 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:14:55pm

re: #393 avanti

Off the coast of Vietnam, we'd engage "Wiblics" (water borne logistic craft) with our 3 inch guns. I pictured shiny gray patrol craft flying the North Vietnamese flag, but it turned out they often were small wooden boats with a basket of fish.

Kerry? Is that you?

435 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:15:16pm

re: #419 Spare O'Lake

Obama Commie Operation


We have a winner!

436 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:15:24pm

re: #426 Soona'

And a strongly worded message will also be sent, this time in all capital letters.

* * * *
He'll send a nasty TWEET!

437 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:15:32pm

re: #421 hazzyday

I saw this guy on the local news. He said he was bit by a spider and had some feeling in his legs again where he didn't have before. I didn't get the impression he was walking again but was still in physical therapy. His legs did look somewhat emaciated.

Well, I'm hoping he enjoys the tinglies before his leg rots away.

438 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:15:34pm

re: #394 pre-Boomer Marine brat

OMG!
Hilarious!

*Lofts ball back in a high arc over the net*

SMASH!

439 Muadib  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:15:43pm

Meanwhile, here in the USA, 0bama and his henchmen are fighting against liberty. Maybe they'll call it the Domestic Contingency Operation.

440 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:15:55pm

Contingency plans are usually put in place when the original plan isn't working. Someone tell me how the current plan isn't working...

441 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:16:16pm

re: #431 alegrias

* * * *
Sorry it's come to this in the USA.

The communists came to our doors in Spain in the 1970s, doing "community organizing" of the threatening sort. Very creepy when they threaten you on your own doorstep, and you cannot defend yourself.

I would have called the cops.

442 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:16:41pm

re: #426 Soona'

And a strongly worded message will also be sent, this time in all capital letters.

If he could get Helen Thomas to deliver it, he might bring them to their knees.

443 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:17:00pm

re: #419 Spare O'Lake

Obama Commie Operation

* * *
Obama's Community Organizing

444 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:17:01pm
445 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:17:08pm

re: #439 Muadib

Meanwhile, here in the USA, 0bama and his henchmen are fighting against liberty. Maybe they'll call it the Domestic Contingency Operation.

Or ACORN

446 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:17:21pm

re: #420 LudwigVanQuixote

Another way to look at it is like this:

Imagine that you have two widgets that will snap together and hold if you can get them close enough to snap them together. Now also imagine that there is a really strong spring between them and that you can not get rid of the spring. The only way to snap them togher is to be strong enough to compress the spring.

Imagine you have done all manner of tests on that spring and you know that it takes at least two really beefy guys to use all of their might to press the spring down so that the widgets can snap together. Now say some little kid comes up to you and says, "no problem, I can press it together with one hand." Would you be skeptical?

In essence the Chemists are arguing that somehow they have made the spring (the electromagnetic force) go away, get weakened, or otherwise stop being an issue. I doubt very much that this is possible.

First, I agree with you. This might get the physicists against the chemists.
(I have a Masters' in physics; maybe the grad school group I was with was unusual, but they didn't give the greatest feeling towards academia, and high energy physics doesn't have many other positions.)
What the chemists are saying, to use your example, is they have some kind of fixture that holds the widgets close together just because of the way it is designed.
But since atoms are much, much larger than nuclei, and the nuclei need to get much closer together than atoms will usually go, I am quite skeptical as well.

447 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:17:25pm

re: #440 loppyd

Contingency plans are usually put in place when the original plan isn't working. Someone tell me how the current plan isn't working...

Cause we're currently winning, silly.
/

448 yesandno  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:17:27pm

What you can call it is over.

They are not, have not been, interested in tracking down terrorists....until it is too late.

Terrorists exist everywhere...except in Gaza, Gitmo, Iraq---or at least until we forced them into terrorism.

War on Words....how to defeat the original meaning of anything and substitute spin.

449 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:17:32pm

re: #441 loppyd

I would've gone out back in my woods and commenced target practice.

450 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:17:45pm

re: #442 LGoPs

If he could get Helen Thomas to deliver it, he might bring them to their knees.


Using Helen Thomas and people on their knees crosses way to many lines.

451 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:17:50pm

re: #444 buzzsawmonkey

If the US is winning, the current plan isn't working according to the new Administration's policy...

Damn - you type faster than me....
:)

452 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:17:53pm

re: #431 alegrias

* * * *
Sorry it's come to this in the USA.

The communists came to our doors in Spain in the 1970s, doing "community organizing" of the threatening sort. Very creepy when they threaten you on your own doorstep, and you cannot defend yourself.

I'll bet my .45 auto I can.

453 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:18:15pm
454 hazzyday  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:18:37pm

re: #393 avanti

Off the coast of Vietnam, we'd engage "Wiblics" (water borne logistic craft) with our 3 inch guns. I pictured shiny gray patrol craft flying the North Vietnamese flag, but it turned out they often were small wooden boats with a basket of fish.

You're purposely avoiding the truth. Those boats had radios on them. Your CO has a different story. Your story is just what you wish to believe so that it fits your misconceptions.

455 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:18:43pm

re: #452 Soona'

lol, see my 449.

456 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:18:52pm

re: #444 buzzsawmonkey

If the US is winning, the current plan isn't working according to the new Administration's policy...

Again I ask all of those Republicans who stayed home on election day how that is working out for them.

457 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:19:19pm

re: #441 loppyd

I would have called the cops.

* * * *
It was hard to know what to do. Many people packed up, sent their money abroad, closed their businesses. Who wants to live under communists, especially when people remembered fighting them 40 years earlier?

458 opnion  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:19:20pm

Overseas Contingency Operation? Hmmm, Let me think.
In WWII our Marines must have been engaged in Pacific Cultural Exchange.

459 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:19:26pm

re: #438 goddessoftheclassroom

SMASH!

*GASP*
GODDESS IS A TRANSVES... uh ... oh, never mind

(That was hilarious too!)

460 snowcrash  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:19:27pm

re: #423 Walter L. Newton

What the fuck did YOU engage? You told us you were involved in electronics, not firing 3 inch guns.


He is researching the answer right now. lol.

461 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:19:31pm

re: #441 loppyd

I would have called the cops.

/I throw battery acid

462 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:20:06pm

re: #450 DEZes

Using Helen Thomas and people on their knees crosses way to many lines.

War is hell.......
:)

463 Suihei Deloi  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:20:51pm

Hmmmm. Somehow I doubt the Long War Journal is going to change its name to the 'Overseas Contingency Operations Journal'. Not exactly catchy - though the whole thing sounds like something Iowahawk would do a parody on (hint hint). Sometimes reality is stranger than fiction.

464 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:21:04pm

re: #449 vagabond trader

I would've gone out back in my woods and commenced target practice.

Of course they would file some BS criminal complaint against you.

465 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:21:18pm

re: #459 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*GASP*
GODDESS IS A TRANSVES... uh ... oh, never mind

(That was hilarious too!)

Check

466 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:21:31pm

re: #462 LGoPs

War is hell.......
:)


Using her really is torture. ;)

467 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:21:37pm

Levin is talking about the charity politburos and the spineless Rs supporting the bill to indoctrinate your kids into state servitude.

468 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:22:39pm

re: #440 loppyd

Contingency plans are usually put in place when the original plan isn't working. Someone tell me how the current plan isn't working...

It's a contingency to success. Somehow, success doesn't fit into Obama's plan.

469 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:23:09pm

re: #457 alegrias

* * * *
It was hard to know what to do. Many people packed up, sent their money abroad, closed their businesses. Who wants to live under communists, especially when people remembered fighting them 40 years earlier?

It must have been agonizing.

470 midwestgak  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:23:20pm

re: #459 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Double speak

471 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:23:27pm

re: #460 snowcrash

He is researching the answer right now. lol.

He's re-reading one of his Sgt. Rock comic books. :)

472 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:23:38pm

re: #464 loppyd

My neighborhood is very, er, sporting.You should hear it on a Saturday morning.

473 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:23:40pm

Just an observation on ‘Overseas Contingency Operation.’
The word 'contingency' is similar to the words 'eventuality', 'possibility' and 'alternative'.
WTF is the alternative to the use of weapons against eventual certain enemies of all values of the western hemisphere. They possibly absolutely need to be countered.

474 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:23:46pm

Why didn't they just change to name to Bush's War. You know he wants to.

475 hazzyday  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:24:53pm

re: #270 vagabond trader

OT: Developing on Drudge; the idiot, aka treasury sec Geithner today stated he was "open" to a global currency as suggested by China and Russia. WTF?

Gold, Vodka, and Rice should do it.

476 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:25:03pm
477 opnion  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:25:28pm

Clarence Paige is complaining in the paper today about the treatment that Obama is getting from the punditry & his political opponents of both parties.
Hey, this guy got a free ride & all of his nefarious associations & uncomfortable parts of his past were glossed over. He was never properly vetted. I don't think Obama will handle scrutiny well.

478 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:25:35pm

re: #473 callahan23

Just an observation on ‘Overseas Contingency Operation.’
The word 'contingency' is similar to the words 'eventuality', 'possibility' and 'alternative'.
WTF is the alternative to the use of weapons against eventual certain enemies of all values of the western hemisphere. They possibly absolutely need to be countered.

*sigh* How many times to we have to go over this? Obama's going to talk to them and everything will be swell.

479 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:25:49pm

re: #472 vagabond trader

My neighborhood is very, er, sporting.You should hear it on a Saturday morning.

Does he/she at least wait until a decent hour?

480 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:25:59pm

re: #441 loppyd

I would have called the cops.

If the 'community organizing' thugs are sanctioned by the government, calling the cops might not be much of an option.

481 Aviator  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:26:13pm

re: #423 Walter L. Newton

What the fuck did YOU engage? You told us you were involved in electronics, not firing 3 inch guns.

He was firing his 3" "gun" back in the radio shack.

482 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:26:23pm

re: #423 Walter L. Newton

What the fuck did YOU engage? You told us you were involved in electronics, not firing 3 inch guns.

Bro..He is so full of shit.. I worked for the Navy for 20 years, I've heard the stories..I've met America's finest...There was no reason to destroy fishing boats.What was America worried about? A fisherman...setting up an ambush in Arizona Valley against the Marines? Was that it? We oft mistaken little fishing boats off the coast and accidentally blew the living shit out of them during Vietnam?
You claim to be retired Navy.. I now officially doubt you..I know the Navy..
And you sir are not Navy...

483 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:26:45pm

Obamas Contingency plan is to have Michelle keep his favorite syrup in her purse
just in case waffle house is out.

484 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:27:03pm

re: #465 goddessoftheclassroom

Check

Are you hungry?

485 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:27:39pm

re: #469 loppyd

It must have been agonizing.

* * **
It was new to me, but must have given the older relatives flashbacks of Spain's bloody Civil War. For example, my grandmother had a miscarriage and lost a baby after creepy communist thugs came to the house looking for my grandfather who was a bourgeous business man who employed people in a poor country! As if creating real jobs was a bad thing.

486 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:27:43pm
487 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:27:54pm

re: #470 midwestgak

Double speak

HA!
Thanks for the grin!

488 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:27:59pm

re: #435 rightymouse
re: #419 Spare O'Lake

Obama Commie Operation

We have a winner!

Oh, Come On!

489 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:28:06pm

Have you seen this from Jonah Goldberg? He's referring to Obama's press conference.

To recap: Obama says Bush ignored necessary spending, which is why our new president needs to borrow $7 trillion just to spend enough money to catch up to where we should be. But he goes on to suggest that if he -- or some other responsible party/messiah/lightworker type -- had been running the show, we wouldn’t have this Republican-fueled deficit that he inherited, because Democrats would have spent two, three, or ten times as much money as Republicans. Something doesn’t compute there.

490 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:28:08pm

LOLOLOLOL!

This is too funny.

This kid painted a giant . . . something . . . on the flat roof of his parents' house so that he could see it from "google earth".

491 BigMoo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:28:14pm

Well, there's at least one term they haven't (yet) re-engineered...it's the term 'DEPLOYED', as in my son and thousands of other American sons, daughters, husbands and wives are 'DEPLOYED' over in Afghanistan, breathlessly waiting for the "Teleprompter" to announce it's go-forward Afghan circle-jerk strategy Friday.

492 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:28:18pm

re: #484 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Are you hungry?

No, I'm just thinking...

493 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:28:20pm

re: #474 HelloDare

Why didn't they just change to name to Bush's War. You know he wants to.

well when the jihadists don't reciprocate & back down it would kida make them look like sphincter type orifices...

494 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:29:00pm

re: #474 HelloDare

Why didn't they just change to name to Bush's War. You know he wants to.

* * **
Bob Woodward has patented the term "Bush's War" and copyrighted it no doubt. YOu don't want to mess with the WashingtonPost people.

495 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:29:07pm

re: #478 Russkilitlover

*sigh* How many times to we have to go over this? Obama's going to talk to them and everything will be swell.


Oooh! I'm sorry comrade I'll step right back in party-line (aka. newspeak).
///Noot, never ever.

496 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:29:07pm

Jake!

Obama Budget Chief on Hill Dems Plan to Scrap Middle Class Tax Cut: "We have two years to figure this out"


President Obama's budget chief hinted that the president's signature campaign issue - a middle class tax cut - will not likely survive a budget battle with Democrats on Capitol Hill.

On a conference call with reporters in advance of the President’s trip to the hill to speak before the Senate Democratic caucus, OMB Director Peter Orszag indicated that while 98% of the budget mark-ups in the House and Senate are on par with the administration’s budget blueprint, some campaign trail promises, like middle class tax cuts, may get left on the cutting room floor.

The administration had tied the revenue raised from cap-and-trade to the Making-Work-Pay tax credit for families – both of which have been brought up as possibilities to be scrapped from the Senate and House budget resolution.

497 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:29:22pm

re: #477 opnion

Clarence Paige is complaining in the paper today about the treatment that Obama is getting from the punditry & his political opponents of both parties.
Hey, this guy got a free ride & all of his nefarious associations & uncomfortable parts of his past were glossed over. He was never properly vetted. I don't think Obama will handle scrutiny well.

I wish the ride were free. We will end up paying for it big time.

498 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:29:34pm

re: #479 loppyd

It's oddly well co-ordinated at about 8 am.

499 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:30:15pm

re: #485 alegrias

* * **
It was new to me, but must have given the older relatives flashbacks of Spain's bloody Civil War. For example, my grandmother had a miscarriage and lost a baby after creepy communist thugs came to the house looking for my grandfather who was a bourgeous business man who employed people in a poor country! As if creating real jobs was a bad thing.

Bastards.

500 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:30:41pm

re: #491 BigMoo

Well, there's at least one term they haven't (yet) re-engineered...it's the term 'DEPLOYED', as in my son and thousands of other American sons, daughters, husbands and wives are 'DEPLOYED' over in Afghanistan, breathlessly waiting for the "Teleprompter" to announce it's go-forward Afghan circle-jerk strategy Friday.

I wouldn't be surprised if they renamed 'deployed' to 'TDY'. The kind of temporary travel you do when you go away for training or something like that......
/

501 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:30:52pm

re: #477 opnion

Clarence Paige is complaining in the paper today about the treatment that Obama is getting from the punditry & his political opponents of both parties.
Hey, this guy got a free ride & all of his nefarious associations & uncomfortable parts of his past were glossed over. He was never properly vetted. I don't think Obama will handle scrutiny well.

* * **
If all you wanted of Obama was that he "represent", hearing any criticism from people who expected Obama to govern or protect, preserve & DEFEND the USA, must be painful.

502 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:31:16pm

re: #482 HoosierHoops

Bro..He is so full of shit.. I worked for the Navy for 20 years, I've heard the stories..I've met America's finest...There was no reason to destroy fishing boats.What was America worried about? A fisherman...setting up an ambush in Arizona Valley against the Marines? Was that it? We oft mistaken little fishing boats off the coast and accidentally blew the living shit out of them during Vietnam?
You claim to be retired Navy.. I now officially doubt you..I know the Navy..
And you sir are not Navy...

Er, I never claimed to be Navy anything... I don't understand why you are asking me those questions.

And I've never questioned your military career, never. I rarely comment on military matters period, since I never served in any branch and my knowledge of military matters is almost nil.

Your reaction above confuses me.

503 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:31:17pm

re: #411 HoosierHoops

So you are saying the US Navy during Vietnam blew up fishing boats?
A whoopsie moment? Dang we just blew up that little fishing boat full of baskets of fish...
What Navy did you retire from you fuck?

I have no question that we did blow up fishing boats. It was not intentional, but it did happen. We picked up survivors on more then one occasion. It's hard to sort out a wooden boat smuggling weapons south from one just fishing.

504 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:31:20pm

re: #490 reine.de.tout

Sent it to a gay guy friend yesterday and he replied that it was pointing to Elton John's estate. lol!

505 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:31:36pm

re: #477 opnion

Clarence Paige is complaining in the paper today about the treatment that Obama is getting from the punditry & his political opponents of both parties.
Hey, this guy got a free ride & all of his nefarious associations & uncomfortable parts of his past were glossed over. He was never properly vetted. I don't think Obama will handle scrutiny well.

If the MFMSM has anything to do with it, he'll never be vetted. The only thing coming close to truth being held together is conservative talk radio and the blogs. We are seeing first-hand the propaganda the people of Germany got from Hitler's regime and what the Russian people got under Stalin. It's nothing less.

506 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:31:43pm

Fox showing Orlando Tea Party pics and just listed all the cities who have recently held rallies.

507 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:32:43pm

I suppose we will have to start calling our war fighters "Overseas Contingency Operations Employees,"
OCOE
or

"Overseas Contingency Operations Helpers,"
OCOH
or

"Overseas Contingency Operations People,"
OCOP.

Maybe we should have a contest to suggest a new name?

508 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:32:50pm

re: #460 snowcrash

He is researching the answer right now. lol.

'We" meaning my ship and no I was not a gunnersmate.

509 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:33:00pm

re: #485 alegrias

Are you in the US now?

510 opnion  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:33:06pm

re: #497 HelloDare

I wish the ride were free. We will end up paying for it big time.

I think perhaps that I am not as nuanced as the One & lack the sophistication to understand how increasing debt will cut the deficit.

511 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:33:28pm

re: #492 goddessoftheclassroom

No, I'm just thinking...

I surrender!

(really, I've got stuff which needs to get done here ... MWAH!)

512 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:33:46pm

re: #496 loppyd

Jake!

Obama Budget Chief on Hill Dems Plan to Scrap Middle Class Tax Cut: "We have two years to figure this out"

NO! Tell me he didn't lie to us. It must be that contingencies changed and now he will have to tax the shit out of everybody.
Hey, if anybody has a problem with that just remember "He Won".
/ Fuck

513 Kragar  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:33:54pm

Irony: Union in Dispute Over Layoffs

The Service Employees International Union, considered the most influential union in the nation, has notified the union that represents about 220 of the SEIU's national field staff members and organizers that it is laying off 75 of the employees.

In return, the workers union, which goes by the somewhat postmodern name of the Union of Union Representatives, has filed charges of unfair labor practices against the SEIU with the National Labor Relations Board. The workers union's leaders say that the SEIU is engaging in the same kind of practices that some businesses use: laying off workers without proper notice, contracting out work to temporary-staffing firms, banning union activities and reclassifying workers to reduce union numbers.

514 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:34:05pm

I'm away all day, sign on, and see we are reminiscing about sinking fishing boats in Vietnam? What the hey?

515 BigMoo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:34:10pm

re: #497 HelloDare

I wish the ride were free. We will end up paying for it big time.

America must learn, elections have consequences...

516 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:34:32pm

re: #446 Kosh's Shadow

First, I agree with you. This might get the physicists against the chemists.
(I have a Masters' in physics; maybe the grad school group I was with was unusual, but they didn't give the greatest feeling towards academia, and high energy physics doesn't have many other positions.)
What the chemists are saying, to use your example, is they have some kind of fixture that holds the widgets close together just because of the way it is designed.
But since atoms are much, much larger than nuclei, and the nuclei need to get much closer together than atoms will usually go, I am quite skeptical as well.

Well said. There is also the issue of getting fried by your experiment if you have any reasonable rate of reaction.

517 Kragar  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:34:46pm

re: #514 Nevergiveup

I'm away all day, sign on, and see we are reminiscing about sinking fishing boats in Vietnam? What the hey?

I'm still thinking of that day over Macho Grande.

518 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:35:01pm

re: #515 BigMoo

America must learn, elections have consequences...

Amen

519 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:35:04pm

re: #512 LGoPs

NO! Tell me he didn't lie to us. It must be that contingencies changed and now he will have to tax the shit out of everybody.
Hey, if anybody has a problem with that just remember "He Won".
/ Fuck

Not everybody....because not everybody pays taxes.

520 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:35:23pm

re: #496 loppyd

Jake!

Obama Budget Chief on Hill Dems Plan to Scrap Middle Class Tax Cut: "We have two years to figure this out"

Well, no shit Sherlock. NObody should be surprised by this or the least bit shocked. Who the f*ck did everyone think would be paying for Obama's fun and games?

Watch that "rich" threshhold fall faster than the DOW after an Obama economic speech.

521 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:35:24pm

re: #512 LGoPs

Goll-eee, good thing I wasn't counting on the 13 bucks a week. I'm so relieved.

522 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:35:56pm

re: #492 goddessoftheclassroom

No, I'm just thinking...

I must admit..one of the highlights of my day is the give and take links between you and brat..I love them!
Anyway..Little Winston was laying on my lap about an hour ago and saw a fly in the house..He went completely insane and has now set up HQ in the Living room..Numerous attacks have failed but Winston is taking cues from his name sake..He is planning his attack and victory...
It may be the cutest thing I've ever seen a pet act..Of course..This is my first pet.. I need to get the camera!

523 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:36:14pm

re: #509 vagabond trader

Are you in the US now?

* ***
Yes--but watching SEIU protesters outside McCain's condo here in Arlington, VA asking him for a house, reminded me of those communists who came to our doors.

Who know after Obama's victory, he would deploy more thugs to more houses all over the country to threaten Americans...just like those Stalinist contingency operations abroad.

524 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:36:27pm

re: #507 TaeJohnDo
"Overseas Contingency Operations Operatives"
OCOO
?

525 BigMoo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:36:30pm

re: #500 LGoPs

Yeah, that way, they can hold on to their combat pay and put it towards cap and trade and their volunteer program...

526 opnion  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:36:32pm

re: #501 alegrias

* * **
If all you wanted of Obama was that he "represent", hearing any criticism from people who expected Obama to govern or protect, preserve & DEFEND the USA, must be painful.


Lots of buyers remorse about now. My problem with the "But I didn't know" crowd is ,why not? He tod us who he is in his memoirs & associations.
He is who I expected & it is most definitely not good.

527 ciaospirit  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:36:33pm

re: #348 vagabond trader

And where the fug is that dog they were supposedly getting the girls.

Here's Hussein's latest remarks on the dog. BO needs to make a theatrical production out of everything he does. As Leno drools on his every word. One of the best nights of his life, of course.

Q All right, one last question. Now, when is the dog coming? I keep hearing about the dog. It seems to me -- when was the dog supposed to be there by? I thought it was, like, as soon as --

THE PRESIDENT: Listen, this is Washington -- (laughter) -- that was a campaign promise. (Laughter.)

Q Oh, wow. Wow. Man. (Laughter and applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: I'm teasing. The dog will be there shortly. (Laughter.)

Q How soon?

THE PRESIDENT: We have actually sort of been laying the groundwork here. We've got a trip, I've got to go to the NATO summit. When we get back, dog will be in place.

Q Wow. And it's, what, a Portuguese water head? (Laughter.) What is it, what kind of dog is it?

THE PRESIDENT: It's not that. (Laughter.)

Q It's not that.

THE PRESIDENT: It's not a "water head." (Laughter.)

Q Whatever they are, I don't know what they are.

THE PRESIDENT: That sounds like a scary dog. (Laughter.) Sort of dripping around the house. (Laughter.)

Q I don't know what it is.

THE PRESIDENT: No, no. We're going to get a dog that is -- that I think the girls will have a great time -- I think I'm going to have a lot of fun with it. You know, they say if you want a friend in Washington, get a dog. (Laughter.)

Q Exactly. Mr. President, I must say, this has been one of the best nights of my life. Thank you very much, sir.

528 XENONIAN  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:36:36pm

WHATS the CONTINGENCY for?

529 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:37:04pm

re: #502 Walter L. Newton

I think he was too mad to type. Started out addressing you, ending up addressing avanti.

530 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:37:05pm

BBIAS

531 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:37:39pm

re: #524 callahan23

Operatives sounds so .... soldier like.

532 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:37:48pm

re: #523 alegrias


He's a statist and has plans to community organize our kids.No doubt about it.

533 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:37:53pm

re: #503 avanti

I have no question that we did blow up fishing boats. It was not intentional, but it did happen. We picked up survivors on more then one occasion. It's hard to sort out a wooden boat smuggling weapons south from one just fishing.

Were you near-sighted or something?

534 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:37:56pm

re: #521 vagabond trader

Goll-eee, good thing I wasn't counting on the 13 bucks a week. I'm so relieved.

You'll get it for two years, then we'll see if he keeps it. If the economy is still in the toilet, look for that pledge to be quietly shelved.

535 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:37:57pm

re: #521 vagabond trader

Goll-eee, good thing I wasn't counting on the 13 bucks a week. I'm so relieved.

Hey, that's a case of Nattie Light, ain't it? That's something, no?

536 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:38:09pm

re: #529 Russkilitlover

I think he was too mad to type. Started out addressing you, ending up addressing avanti.

Well, he has already posted other comments, and hasn't addressed mine. I think he was mad at me, but I don't understand why?

537 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:38:16pm

re: #522 HoosierHoops

I must admit..one of the highlights of my day is the give and take links between you and brat..I love them!

I'm glad SOMEONE likes them!
/*whimper* *whine* ... wanna see my scars?

538 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:38:34pm

re: #502 Walter L. Newton

You might appreciate this one....
“Apocalypse Meow”

Reminds me a little of a non-comedic Meet the Feebles.

539 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:38:38pm

re: #510 opnion

I think perhaps that I am not as nuanced as the One & lack the sophistication to understand how increasing debt will cut the deficit.

Not your fault. You didn't have the opportunity to attend Harvard like Mr. Obama. /

540 opnion  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:38:48pm

re: #505 Soona'

If the MFMSM has anything to do with it, he'll never be vetted. The only thing coming close to truth being held together is conservative talk radio and the blogs. We are seeing first-hand the propaganda the people of Germany got from Hitler's regime and what the Russian people got under Stalin. It's nothing less.

I see you to a point & maybe this is wishful thinking on my part, but I detect even the MSM being a little less protective of him.

541 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:38:48pm

re: #369 itellu3times

I forget the exact early P&F theory, but it was something along the lines of certain physical structures holding components close enough together that even EM could allow them to tunnel to the lower nuclear energy state, eg fuse.

I agree, it seems increasingly unlikely that this lovely scenario turns out to be how things actually are.


Yes I heard that too, I just really have a lot of other reasons to believe that is even worse crap because of the scales involved. Atomic scales are vastly larger than the short range nuclear scales involved in fusion. In other words, the EM repulsion of whatever atoms are doing the holding would also have to be overcome before the nuclei could get close enough to fuse.

542 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:39:19pm

re: #510 opnion

I think perhaps that I am not as nuanced as the One & lack the sophistication to understand how increasing debt will cut the deficit.

You mean you can't think like a statist democrat?

543 Kragar  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:39:27pm

re: #538 Killgore Trout

You might appreciate this one....
“Apocalypse Meow”

Reminds me a little of a non-comedic Meet the Feebles.

Great, now I got the "Sodomy" song running thru my head.

544 midwestgak  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:39:27pm

re: #503 avanti

We picked up survivors on more then one occasion.

than, THAN

545 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:39:31pm

re: #527 ciaospirit

Yeah, he'll be getting the dog on April 1st.

546 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:39:32pm

re: #522 HoosierHoops

I must admit..one of the highlights of my day is the give and take links between you and brat..I love them!
Anyway..Little Winston was laying on my lap about an hour ago and saw a fly in the house..He went completely insane and has now set up HQ in the Living room..Numerous attacks have failed but Winston is taking cues from his name sake..He is planning his attack and victory...
It may be the cutest thing I've ever seen a pet act..Of course..This is my first pet.. I need to get the camera!

{HoosierHoops}!
I'm so glad--I have so much fun with them!

I'm also glad you're enjoying your puppy so much--you're delight is evident in every comment you post about him!

547 BignJames  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:39:33pm

re: #535 Guanxi88

Hey, that's a case of Nattie Light, ain't it? That's something, no?


No.

548 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:39:33pm

re: #536 Walter L. Newton

Well, he has already posted other comments, and hasn't addressed mine. I think he was mad at me, but I don't understand why?

My wife is always mad at me and I don't know why? Or is it that I don't care?

549 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:39:41pm

re: #512 LGoPs

NO! Tell me he didn't lie to us. It must be that contingencies changed and now he will have to tax the shit out of everybody.
Hey, if anybody has a problem with that just remember "He Won".
/ Fuck

Obama Lied!
Tax Cut Died!

550 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:39:41pm

re: #531 TaeJohnDo

Operatives sounds so .... soldier like.


"Overseas Contingency Operations Experts"
OCOE then?

551 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:39:51pm

re: #536 Walter L. Newton

Well, he has already posted other comments, and hasn't addressed mine. I think he was mad at me, but I don't understand why?

No, I took it as an answer to avanti as well. Only accidentally through you, I believe.

552 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:40:00pm

Got to go the evening.
Everyone have a good night.
{goddess}
Hoops, good luck with damage control due to the fly-chase.

553 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:40:32pm

re: #547 BignJames

No.

Look, I'm trying to cheer people up. Now, granted, I can make better beer in my dishwasher, but still, ya gotta give people something to hold onto, or they just sort of slide off into oblivion.

554 BigMoo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:40:51pm

Here's what I do know:
1. The roadside bombs the Taliban is planting have no contingency.
2. The rocket rounds that recently struck near my son's base had no contingency.
3. The mortar rounds hitting in or near the combat outposts have no contingency.
4. The casualties we're taking are not contingent.

Except to the Left.....

555 formercorpsman  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:41:17pm

re: #536 Walter L. Newton

Walter, I really read that post as a retort for Avanti's.

Perhaps it was a mistake in the address.

556 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:41:18pm

Walter just looks naturally guilty...of something

557 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:41:26pm

re: #515 BigMoo

America must learn, elections have consequences...

A lesson often repeated, but never retained.

558 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:41:27pm

re: #537 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm glad SOMEONE likes them!
/*whimper* *whine* ... wanna see my scars?

It's easy to be gracious when one is naturally superior...

559 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:41:42pm

re: #538 Killgore Trout

You might appreciate this one....
“Apocalypse Meow”

Reminds me a little of a non-comedic Meet the Feebles.

Ok, that was really sick.

560 opnion  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:42:00pm

re: #542 Soona'

You mean you can't think like a statist democrat?

Actually gives me a headache.

561 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:42:05pm

re: #550 callahan23

"Overseas Contingency Operations Experts"
OCOE then?

Experts brought us the banking mess...

(I'll stop now before you down ding me!';0)

562 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:42:08pm

re: #337 HoosierHoops

Very nice lucid post on science..
I asked Dr. C one of the world's leading physics professor to comment on this story..He'll post soon I'm sure..
[Link: coraifeartaigh.wordpress.com...]


I never met him but he looks like a great guy! I have always loved cosmology.

563 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:42:26pm

re: #527 ciaospirit

Eh, he's nothing without an audience, is he? Sad man, really.

Truth be told, as is increasingly rare of late, Giggles the Clown isn't the Emperor, he's the New Clothes.

564 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:43:27pm

re: #563 Guanxi88

Eh, he's nothing without an audience, is he? Sad man, really.

Truth be told, as is increasingly rare of late, Giggles the Clown isn't the Emperor, he's the New Clothes.

* * *
And his band of merry Tax Cheats.

565 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:43:38pm

re: #502 Walter L. Newton

Er, I never claimed to be Navy anything... I don't understand why you are asking me those questions.

And I've never questioned your military career, never. I rarely comment on military matters period, since I never served in any branch and my knowledge of military matters is almost nil.

Your reaction above confuses me.

I'm sorry Walter..I was directing that to Avanti..I had read you guys post during the day today and just called bullshit on his post about blowing fishing boats out of the water..
And to be clear..I have never had a military Career..After College I went to work for the Dept. of the Navy..I was a fully qualified Government Nuclear Engineer with an OE Clearance..Nobody trash talks the Navy while I'm around..

566 formercorpsman  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:43:48pm

I'm curious how much this new wording cost us.

567 USBeast  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:44:09pm

re: #548 Nevergiveup

My wife is always mad at me and I don't know why? Or is it that I don't care?

Careful with that 'tude, Dude. I came down with it and the divorce was finalized three weeks ago.

568 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:44:22pm

re: #555 formercorpsman

Walter, I really read that post as a retort for Avanti's.

Perhaps it was a mistake in the address.

Whatever, it still was addressed to me, and there is no way I was dumping on Hoosier Hoops service or anyones service. And I was simply questioning Avanti about his perspective since he was not a gunner, but some electronic expert job.

I just want to make sure everyone understands I was not dumping on anyones Navy career.

569 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:44:36pm

re: #559 Walter L. Newton

I like the look of the CGI. Maybe it's just the rabbits but made me think of Watership Down too.

570 BigMoo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:44:39pm

re: #557 Slumbering Behemoth

Sad, but true. I'm just not sure we've had to endure an Admin like this one before.

571 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:44:53pm

re: #553 Guanxi88

Dishwasher beer? I guess you also do bathtub cheese? .....and then sneak it across the border?

572 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:44:54pm

Man Caused Disaster= Election of Barack Hussein Obama

573 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:45:06pm

re: #561 TaeJohnDo

Experts brought us the banking mess...

(I'll stop now before you down ding me!';0)


Not gonna happen. I've got a thick skin. Just gave it a shot.
;-)

574 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:45:18pm

Whoa, a former Washington Post reporter, Jeff Birnbaum, says the President's "SPIN MACHINE" didn't do bla bla bla.

When a former Washington Post reporter says the emperor's spin machine has no clothes, trouble ahead.

575 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:45:28pm

Oh goody -

Mar 25, 6:05 PM (ET)
By PAMELA HESS
WASHINGTON (AP) - North Korea is loading a Taepodong rocket on its east coast launch pad in anticipation of the launch of a communications satellite early next month, U.S. officials say. U.S. counterproliferation and intelligence officials have confirmed Japanese news reports of the expected launch between April 4 and 8.


here

576 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:45:37pm

re: #520 Russkilitlover

Well, no shit Sherlock. NObody should be surprised by this or the least bit shocked. Who the f*ck did everyone think would be paying for Obama's fun and games?

Watch that "rich" threshhold fall faster than the DOW after an Obama economic speech.

How many times did the definition of "rich" get changed during the campaign? First, it was $250,000.00, then it went down to (?) $100,000.00, then down to about $70,000.00.

Fucking lying Commie bastards, the lot of them.

577 2by2  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:45:47pm

re: #524 callahan23

"Overseas Contingency Operations Operatives"
OCOO
?

more symmetry:
Obama's Overseas Contingency Operations Operatives
OOCOO
is it just me or does this administration favor the letter O ?

578 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:46:10pm

re: #565 HoosierHoops

I'm sorry Walter..I was directing that to Avanti..I had read you guys post during the day today and just called bullshit on his post about blowing fishing boats out of the water..
And to be clear..I have never had a military Career..After College I went to work for the Dept. of the Navy..I was a fully qualified Government Nuclear Engineer with an OE Clearance..Nobody trash talks the Navy while I'm around..

Oh, ok. I thought you were on my case for saying something about the Navy, which I was not. I was questioning Avanti, which I should realize is in itself like going into combat.

Combat with a mental midget.

579 BignJames  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:46:12pm

re: #553 Guanxi88

I know people who drink Coors Light....'cause it has less flavor.

580 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:46:19pm

re: #567 USBeast

Careful with that 'tude, Dude. I came down with it and the divorce was finalized three weeks ago.

Hey I just spent all day with the wife and mother in law. And in the car most of the time also. I can joke. I have earned it.

581 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:46:26pm

re: #571 UberInfidel67

Dishwasher beer? I guess you also do bathtub cheese? .....and then sneak it across the border?

I used to make sugar-wine in my kitchen, and run it through a still I cobbled together from stuff gotten at a Williams Sonoma and an Ace Hardware. Fine pop-skull, and for pennies a quart.

582 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:46:40pm

Hey, Kenneth? What's the contingency?

583 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:46:51pm

re: #570 BigMoo

Sad, but true. I'm just not sure we've had to endure an Admin like this one before.

* * *
FDR had three terms or four to take over the government AND do overseas contingency operations.

584 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:47:04pm

I make Guinness with chocolate syrup and bog water.

585 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:47:14pm

re: #569 Killgore Trout

I like the look of the CGI. Maybe it's just the rabbits but made me think of Watership Down too.

Sometimes I think artist do things just because they can, it's clever, but, does it really make any artistic statements or is there even a reason to do it?

586 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:47:28pm

re: #574 alegrias

Whoa, a former Washington Post reporter, Jeff Birnbaum, says the President's "SPIN MACHINE" didn't do bla bla bla.

When a former Washington Post reporter says the emperor's spin machine has no clothes, trouble ahead.

lots of people will want to be on the leading edge of the BO Bash that will soon come...there will be fame for the bold that defy the Master...it's all about ego, nothing more...people need to be manipulated

587 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:47:49pm

re: #540 opnion

I see you to a point & maybe this is wishful thinking on my part, but I detect even the MSM being a little less protective of him.

I don't know. Perhaps when the zero starts getting the feeling things are about to turn on him, he and his staff will make a threat here or make a threat there and make the empty suits at the networks see the error of their ways.

588 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:48:11pm

Israeli archeologists find 1,500-year-old Byzantine bathhouse

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

1,500 years ago in Israel is almost modern times? What's the big deal?

589 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:48:43pm

re: #577 2by2

more symmetry:
Obama's Overseas Contingency Operations Operatives
OOCOO
is it just me or does this administration favor the letter O ?

* ***
sycophantic flattery of the "O"

590 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:48:45pm

re: #581 Guanxi88
Well with this economy, you might wanna start making it again...and selling it on the black market.

591 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:48:53pm

re: #579 BignJames

I know people who drink Coors Light....'cause it has less flavor.


Them sissies. A beer needs to taste a little bitter in order to quench thirst.

592 USBeast  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:49:38pm

re: #570 BigMoo

Sad, but true. I'm just not sure we've had to endure an Admin like this one before.

It's not just the Admin. The Admin is a symptom of a far ranging malady. Our Republic is sick and cause is malnutrition. We have fed children for decades with junk food sociology instead of good, solid nutritious Civics.

593 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:50:06pm

re: #565 HoosierHoops

I had to give a brief yesterday to a mixed bag of folks in a GVT Contracting class. I started by saying we are here to support the war fighter (yes, I ignored the memo) and I have slides of Pilots in Action. I then showed an F-14 (Navy), then an Apache (Army), then a FA-18 (Marines), then a SeaHawk (Coast Guard) and finally a guy golfing (USAF). It brought the house down. For the record, I'm an old USAF C-130 Navigator.

594 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:50:11pm

Clinton: US to blame for much of Mexico violence
Published: 03.25.09, 20:37 / Israel News
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Wednesday that an "insatiable" appetite in the United States for illegal drugs was to blame for much of the violence plaguing Mexico.

Bitch.

595 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:50:17pm

re: #591 callahan23

Them sissies. A beer needs to taste a little bitter in order to quench thirst.


Beer quenches thirst?
I have been drinking it for the wrong reasons. ;)

596 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:50:31pm

Man Caused Disaster = Terrorist Attack
hence:
Exon Valdise = 9/11/2001

/.....the horror.......the horror............

597 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:50:34pm

re: #590 UberInfidel67

Well with this economy, you might wanna start making it again...and selling it on the black market.

Goes back to a post from yesterday or so: one would be well advised to take up cigarette smuggling and moonshining as profitable sidelines in these troubling times.

598 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:50:38pm

re: #587 Soona'

I don't know. Perhaps when the zero starts getting the feeling things are about to turn on him, he and his staff will make a threat here or make a threat there and make the empty suits at the networks see the error of their ways.

* * **
Send in the ACORN contingency operations "crews"

599 opnion  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:50:47pm

re: #587 Soona'

I don't know. Perhaps when the zero starts getting the feeling things are about to turn on him, he and his staff will make a threat here or make a threat there and make the empty suits at the networks see the error of their ways.

That certainly could happen, but they could do him lot's of harm.
Obama can cripple this country financially & he is busy doing it.
To go beyond that he would have to have the military & I don't see that.

600 USBeast  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:50:59pm

re: #580 Nevergiveup

Hey I just spent all day with the wife and mother in law. And in the car most of the time also. I can joke. I have earned it.

Yes, you have.

601 midwestgak  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:51:10pm

re: #570 BigMoo

Sad, but true. I'm just not sure we've had to endure an Admin like this one before.

There is help

. . . oh, wait.

602 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:51:13pm

re: #585 Walter L. Newton

....does it really make any artistic statements or is there even a reason to do it?


Too soon to tell. It depends on how they handle the story. I do appreciate the effort towards darker content. There's not much out there in terms of movies aimed at an adult audience.

603 Lincolntf  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:51:21pm

re: #575 Killer Tomato

If we (or Japan with our say so) are really going to blow this thing out of the sky, why don't we/they just destroy it on the pad?
Who's gonna bitch? The same people who'll bitch if we shoot it down in mid-flight. I say screw 'em, trash it where it stands and don't let the NoKo's get one second worth of data from the project.

604 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:51:37pm

re: #593 TaeJohnDo

I had to give a brief yesterday to a mixed bag of folks in a GVT Contracting class. I started by saying we are here to support the war fighter (yes, I ignored the memo) and I have slides of Pilots in Action. I then showed an F-14 (Navy), then an Apache (Army), then a FA-18 (Marines), then a SeaHawk (Coast Guard) and finally a guy golfing (USAF). It brought the house down. For the record, I'm an old USAF C-130 Navigator.

OK, USAF Vet, so what happened today with our F-22? Other than one went down they are not saying much. I have not even heard if the Pilot survived?

605 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:51:43pm

For those of you music lovers who are searching for weirdness.

Animal Collective: My Girls

606 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:52:03pm

re: #593 TaeJohnDo

I had to give a brief yesterday to a mixed bag of folks in a GVT Contracting class. I started by saying we are here to support the war fighter (yes, I ignored the memo) and I have slides of Pilots in Action. I then showed an F-14 (Navy), then an Apache (Army), then a FA-18 (Marines), then a SeaHawk (Coast Guard) and finally a guy golfing (USAF). It brought the house down. For the record, I'm an old USAF C-130 Navigator.

* * *
thank you for your service & for your bravado. Straight talk is hard to find!

607 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:52:03pm

re: #597 Guanxi88
I predict a HUGE demand for black market cigarettes....the taxes are killing me.

608 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:52:08pm

re: #588 Nevergiveup

Israeli archeologists find 1,500-year-old Byzantine bathhouse

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

1,500 years ago in Israel is almost modern times? What's the big deal?

The big deal is the this information in the story...

Archeologist Gregory Serai, who headed the excavation, said the impressive size of bathhouse, 20 meters by 20 meters, indicated that the area between Beersheba and Gaza was more heavily populated during the Byzantine era than previously thought.

609 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:52:26pm

re: #589 alegrias

* ***
sycophantic flattery of the "O"

O as in hOle.

610 opnion  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:52:38pm

Later Gators

611 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:52:59pm

re: #603 Lincolntf
It is a good way to do a real world test of shooting down enemy rockets.

612 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:53:03pm

re: #508 avanti

'We" meaning my ship and no I was not a gunnersmate.

So let's just say you were Navy in the Middle of a hot f'n war like Vietnam..
It was a hard war..We all know families that were effected from Nam.
I would just prefer ( for once ) You say something positive about your Ship and mates and the Navy in general during your service there..
Tell us the Highlights not the low lights of your service during a time of war..

613 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:53:24pm

re: #607 UberInfidel67

I predict a HUGE demand for black market cigarettes....the taxes are killing me.

They are almost $8 here in MA now. My future MIL buys them in NH.

What are they running where you live?

614 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:53:30pm

re: #608 Walter L. Newton

It ain't that heavily populated today either?

615 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:53:34pm

re: #533 rightymouse

Were you near-sighted or something?

I don't know if a command came down from the chain, but we started actually eyeballing the boats by coming alongside rather then engaging them by radar. They were never armed in the traditional manner, so it was safe to approach them up close with just cover from some Marines on deck.

616 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:53:35pm

NKOREA LOADING ROCKET ON LAUNCH PAD
CLINTON WARNS

...from Drudge

617 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:53:52pm

re: #603 Lincolntf

I don't think we're going to do squat.

618 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:54:01pm

re: #604 Nevergiveup

Couldn't tell you -- been in class all day and they don't tell me shit anyway.

619 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:54:55pm

re: #594 Nevergiveup

Clinton: US to blame for much of Mexico violence
Published: 03.25.09, 20:37 / Israel News
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Wednesday that an "insatiable" appetite in the United States for illegal drugs was to blame for much of the violence plaguing Mexico.

Bitch.

well, we do buy the shit...

620 2by2  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:55:07pm

re: #589 alegrias

* ***
sycophantic flattery of the "O"

we'll never be able to look at an O in the same way.
/

621 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:55:19pm

re: #618 TaeJohnDo

Couldn't tell you -- been in class all day and they don't tell me shit anyway.

How much do they go for? And how many do we have at the moment?

622 Racer X  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:55:22pm

re: #538 Killgore Trout

You might appreciate this one....
“Apocalypse Meow”

Reminds me a little of a non-comedic Meet the Feebles.

That's some sick and twisted shit.

I like it.

623 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:55:32pm

re: #613 loppyd
$8 a PACK?!?!?!?!?!?! I should quit bitching then. My regular brand went from 3.59 without tax added to about 4.00 without tax added. Still.......$8 a PACK!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I am rolling my own again though. The taxes haven't hit the bags of tobacco yet.

624 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:55:47pm

re: #616 pink freud

NKOREA LOADING ROCKET ON LAUNCH PAD
CLINTON WARNS

...from Drudge

* * * *
Clinton's State Department Lawyers will send a TWEET on TWITTER

625 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:55:48pm

re: #620 2by2

we'll never be able to look at an O in the same way.
/

I boycotted Cheerios, donuts, and onion rings.

627 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:56:30pm

re: #623 UberInfidel67

$8 a PACK?!?!?!?!?!?! I should quit bitching then. My regular brand went from 3.59 without tax added to about 4.00 without tax added. Still.......$8 a PACK!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I am rolling my own again though. The taxes haven't hit the bags of tobacco yet.

Ha. Yeah. After this 60 cent hike, cigs in NYC should be 9+

628 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:56:33pm

re: #613 loppyd

They are almost $8 here in MA now. My future MIL buys them in NH.

What are they running where you live?

$10+ in NYC... $4-6 from bootleggers...

629 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:56:44pm
According to the national Nielsen ratings, Barack Obama's Tuesday-night press conference lost viewers compared with his two most recent heavily covered evening events.

The news special drew 40.4 million viewers -- down 18% from from his Feb. 9 press conference, and down 23% from his Feb. 24 address to Congress. The numbers are the combined viewership from 11 cable and broadcast networks that carried the event.

mwahahahahaha

630 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:56:51pm

re: #520 Russkilitlover

Well, no shit Sherlock. NObody should be surprised by this or the least bit shocked. Who the f*ck did everyone think would be paying for Obama's fun and games?

Watch that "rich" threshhold fall faster than the DOW after an Obama economic speech.

Obama's word is shit. He's out to destroy wealth creation and the middle class, and in doing so, he will keep the poor, poor.

631 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:57:04pm
632 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:57:22pm

re: #628 brookly red

$10+ in NYC... $4-6 from bootleggers...

I quit. You?

633 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:57:30pm

re: #595 DEZes

Beer quenches thirst?
I have been drinking it for the wrong reasons. ;)

I, for one do drink it for exactly that purpose. But sadly I can only drink a little more than one glass. It's got to do with my liver that can't crack down on certain amino acids fast enough so that they in turn place themselves on receptor cells in the brain. Which produces a big headache - the more of that stuff the more that headaches transform into a migraine.
I belong to that very small percentile of Caucasians that have this defect. :-(

634 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:57:31pm

re: #607 UberInfidel67

I predict a HUGE demand for black market cigarettes....the taxes are killing me.

Ahh, if only we were in Beantown, there I had connections in that particular sector of the market. Anatoli, he was famed for his low prices and fearsome breath. His smokes were Marlboro and other such brands.

Made for export, you see, to Russia, where they were immediately re-packed, mislabeled, and thrown in with shipments of printed and bound materials. Cost, FOB East Coast USA, about 45 cents a pack. CIF to Russia, about 75 cents a pack; CIF Boston, about $1.25 a pack.

He made a killing at it.

635 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:57:32pm
636 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:57:33pm

re: #619 brookly red

well, we do buy the shit...

Fair enough, but still they got a bit of a control problem down south of the border. And anyway I'll wager a majority of drug users are dems or acorn supporters?( I have no figures to support my hypothesis, so what can I say)

637 Aviator  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:57:42pm

re: #630 FrogMarch

Obama's word is shit. He's out to destroy wealth creation and the middle class, and in doing so, he will keep the poor, poor.

Yeah, but the poor will have more company.
/

638 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:57:49pm

re: #621 Nevergiveup

How much do they go for? And how many do we have at the moment?

Too much and not enough.

(Feel free to research on your own if you need a more precise answer.)

639 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:58:08pm

re: #626 Sharmuta

OMG that was entirely toooooo cute! I want one! I always wanted to work in a zoo with baby animals.

640 alegrias  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:58:09pm

re: #629 Killer Tomato

mwahahahahaha

* * *
Tuning out the Great "O" so soon! Mwahaha indeed. May the love affair end soon.

641 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:58:18pm

re: #594 Nevergiveup

Clinton: US to blame for much of Mexico violence
Published: 03.25.09, 20:37 / Israel News
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Wednesday that an "insatiable" appetite in the United States for illegal drugs was to blame for much of the violence plaguing Mexico.

Bitch.

I have to admit, that she has somewhat of a point.

642 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:58:33pm

re: #615 avanti

I don't know if a command came down from the chain, but we started actually eyeballing the boats by coming alongside rather then engaging them by radar. They were never armed in the traditional manner, so it was safe to approach them up close with just cover from some Marines on deck.

May I suggest you stop while you're behind?

643 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:58:42pm

re: #635 FrogMarch

That is so sweet!

I want one!

644 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:58:45pm

re: #616 pink freud

NKOREA LOADING ROCKET ON LAUNCH PAD
CLINTON WARNS

...from Drudge

"there will be consequences"....hahaha...what a dope....spell it out Hillary...
albusteve says..."if it leaves the pad, it and everybody in proximity will vanish...I have spoken"

645 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:58:51pm

re: #633 callahan23

Oh, sorry, Didnt mean to pick on you.

646 Filala  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:58:56pm

re: #99 Occasional Reader

Counter-Jihad sounds good to me. The crusades were against Muslims AND Jews

647 ciaospirit  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:59:05pm

re: #616 pink freud

NKOREA LOADING ROCKET ON LAUNCH PAD
CLINTON WARNS

...from Drudge

Here's what all the appeasement money to NK got us. Pretty much, NK says go fuck yourself.

South Korea, the U.S. and Japan have urged North Korea to refrain from launching a satellite or missile, calling it a violation of a U.N. Security Council resolution barring the country from ballistic activity.

North Korea insists it bears the right to develop its space program and on Tuesday warned the U.S., Japan and its allies not to interfere with the launch.

648 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:59:09pm

re: #638 TaeJohnDo

Too much and not enough.

(Feel free to research on your own if you need a more precise answer.)

That's ok I like your answer.

649 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:59:13pm

re: #594 Nevergiveup

Clinton: US to blame for much of Mexico violence
Published: 03.25.09, 20:37 / Israel News
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Wednesday that an "insatiable" appetite in the United States for illegal drugs was to blame for much of the violence plaguing Mexico.

Bitch.

Yeah, it's all those ex-hippies who are now running the government....
/ Didn't inhale my ass.

650 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:59:20pm

re: #639 UberInfidel67

Check out the Wapo slide show- the parents are gorgeous.

651 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:59:31pm

re: #638 TaeJohnDo

IIRC, they're about $140 grand apiece and we have between 120 and 150...

652 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:59:51pm

Oh shit. Mark Levin just said he has no problem with teaching "both" (creationism and evolution) in public schools.

(He's yelling at some loser from Shreveport, LA)

653 USBeast  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:59:52pm

re: #623 UberInfidel67

$8 a PACK?!?!?!?!?!?! I should quit bitching then. My regular brand went from 3.59 without tax added to about 4.00 without tax added. Still.......$8 a PACK!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I am rolling my own again though. The taxes haven't hit the bags of tobacco yet.

Dude, give it up. I'm fifteen years down the road from a cold turkey quit of a pack and a half a day of unfiltered Lucky Strikes. Best (and hardest) thing I've ever done for myself.

654 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 3:59:53pm

re: #628 brookly red

$10+ in NYC... $4-6 from bootleggers...

Are you serious? A pack of cigarettes are over ten dollars a pack. I stopped smoking in Aug. 2008, but even then I could get generics for about 3.50 a pack.

Anyone in Colorado on LGF right now who smokes? How much are they currently in Colorado.

655 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:00:00pm

re: #648 Nevergiveup

Here to serve!

656 Aviator  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:00:00pm

re: #636 Nevergiveup

Fair enough, but still they got a bit of a control problem down south of the border. And anyway I'll wager a majority of drug users are dems or acorn supporters?( I have no figures to support my hypothesis, so what can I say)

Probably why Clinton is visiting Mexico. She is the One's mule.

657 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:00:18pm

Wiki: $137.5 million (not thousand, what a typo) and 135 built)

658 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:00:19pm

re: #645 DEZes

Oh, sorry, Didnt mean to pick on you.

You didn't, buddy.

659 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:00:25pm

re: #623 UberInfidel67

$8 a PACK?!?!?!?!?!?! I should quit bitching then. My regular brand went from 3.59 without tax added to about 4.00 without tax added. Still.......$8 a PACK!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I am rolling my own again though. The taxes haven't hit the bags of tobacco yet.

But they will and sooner than you think.

660 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:00:44pm

re: #651 Fat Jolly Penguin

IIRC, they're about $140 grand apiece and we have between 120 and 150...

I'm thinking a little more than 140 Grand.

661 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:00:44pm

re: #652 pink freud

Oh shit. Mark Levin just said he has no problem with teaching "both" (creationism and evolution) in public schools.

(He's yelling at some loser from Shreveport, LA)

that's illegal in public schools...is he that stupid?

662 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:01:00pm

re: #634 Guanxi88
WOW! We have a new little shop in town here. They toss in the appropriate amout of tobacco and a machine rolls them. They mix custom blends. Last I heard, a carton was 10 bucks. I keep forgetting about the damn place though.

663 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:01:10pm

re: #660 TaeJohnDo

>_< (fixed in 657)

664 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:01:21pm

re: #647 ciaospirit

That Biden, he sure knew what he was talking about.

665 Lincolntf  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:01:25pm

re: #611 DEZes

True.

666 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:01:26pm

re: #637 Aviator

Yeah, but the poor will have more company.
/

and at least we will have crappy free government mandated health care -
/*whew*

667 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:01:43pm

re: #658 callahan23

You didn't, buddy.

Good. ;)

668 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:01:55pm

re: #633 callahan23

You have my condolences. That has to be the saddest thing I've heard all day.

669 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:02:06pm

re: #663 Fat Jolly Penguin

>_< (fixed in 657)

I'm in Contracting -- I 'm supposed to find little errors like that. ';0)

670 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:02:10pm

re: #623 UberInfidel67

$8 a PACK?!?!?!?!?!?! I should quit bitching then. My regular brand went from 3.59 without tax added to about 4.00 without tax added. Still.......$8 a PACK!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I am rolling my own again though. The taxes haven't hit the bags of tobacco yet.

That's insane. Insert your own "you should quit, it's bad for you" lecture here.

671 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:02:29pm

re: #662 UberInfidel67

WOW! We have a new little shop in town here. They toss in the appropriate amout of tobacco and a machine rolls them. They mix custom blends. Last I heard, a carton was 10 bucks. I keep forgetting about the damn place though.

The old-style tobacconists used to make their own cigarettes, too, as I recall. Quite a smart idea, for the right businessman, of course.

672 Aviator  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:02:37pm

re: #660 TaeJohnDo

I'm thinking a little more than 140 Grand.

140 million, 150 in inventory (well, 149) and 33 more already budgeted for.

673 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:02:44pm

re: #598 alegrias

* * **
Send in the ACORN contingency operations "crews"


On my way home from work- community center was/is advertising for CENSUS WORKERS. . .I anted to take a picture, but we sold back our cell phones to save money- they want to "train/test workers for 2010 census"

674 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:02:57pm

re: #650 Sharmuta
I did and I can't handle it. I wanna hold one!

675 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:03:02pm

re: #668 Slumbering Behemoth
Thanks.

676 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:03:39pm

re: #627 NYCHardhat

Ha. Yeah. After this 60 cent hike, cigs in NYC should be 9+

This is bullshit the way they're loading up the taxes. I'm an ex-smoker but will still defend other's rights. If the shit is so bad then the government ought to outlaw it. Of course they won't because there's too much revenue. Government speaks with forked tongue.

677 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:03:45pm

re: #652 pink freud

Oh shit. Mark Levin just said he has no problem with teaching "both" (creationism and evolution) in public schools.

(He's yelling at some loser from Shreveport, LA)

He may just need educating on the subject. Saying "teach both" is a way to appease both sides, especially when you're trying to gracefully exit before an argument blows up. Now which lizard wants to call and give him an education?

678 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:04:45pm

re: #653 USBeast
I really am trying. I find that rolling my own helps me cut down too. When I sit and read at night, the cat is on my lap so I can't get up to roll one. Plus, the big incentive in this house is that we just painted everything WHITE!

679 ciaospirit  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:04:55pm

re: #641 Soona'

I have to admit, that she has somewhat of a point.

Gee, I guess we should all start selling drugs. Cause it won't be our fault and we can make lots of money and kill people. Somewhat of a point my ass.

680 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:04:56pm
681 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:04:58pm

re: #661 albusteve

that's illegal in public schools...is he that stupid?

If stupid had anything to do with it, Biden would be a Young Earther.

682 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:05:07pm

re: #661 albusteve

that's illegal in public schools...is he that stupid?

The context: A self-identified Dem from Shreveport calling into Levin's show, asking Levin what he thought about teaching creationism in the schools. Levin zipped right to Jindal, saying something about liberals in LA. hating the fact that Jindal was behind this in the schools and that he, Levin supported it.

There was more, but that's the gist. Levin screamed a lot.

683 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:05:13pm

re: #642 rightymouse

May I suggest you stop while you're behind?

Actually, I was hoping someone that made a tour after I did in 1967-68 would comment on how they handled the Wiblics.

684 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:05:21pm

re: #660 TaeJohnDo

I'm thinking a little more than 140 Grand.

I just looked it up. With "development" thrown in they go for 330 mil a piece. With out "development" they got for about 178 mil a piece for the 180 odd projected BEFORE the Obama cuts to come. After the projected 180, the unit cost might fall to as 'Low" as 140 mil.

685 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:05:27pm
686 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:05:45pm

re: #656 Aviator
Who's gonna check up her ass for drugs when she comes back across the border?

687 midwestgak  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:05:47pm

re: #633 callahan23


I belong to that very small percentile of Caucasians that have this defect. :-(

Many Asians have the same inability to metabolize alcohol.

688 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:06:23pm

re: #682 pink freud

The context: A self-identified Dem from Shreveport calling into Levin's show, asking Levin what he thought about teaching creationism in the schools. Levin zipped right to Jindal, saying something about liberals in LA. hating the fact that Jindal was behind this in the schools and that he, Levin supported it.

There was more, but that's the gist. Levin screamed a lot.

I should stay out of it...I am a poor spokesman because everything is so simple to me...

689 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:06:34pm

re: #686 UberInfidel67

Who's gonna check up her ass for drugs when she comes back across the border?

Not me I can tell you, no fooking way.

690 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:06:46pm

re: #678 UberInfidel67

I really am trying. I find that rolling my own helps me cut down too. When I sit and read at night, the cat is on my lap so I can't get up to roll one. Plus, the big incentive in this house is that we just painted everything WHITE!

There's always the delightful ritual of the evening pipe. Very meditative, very soothing, in its way. Nice little luxury, and it doesn't use up that much tobacco.

691 Racer X  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:07:05pm

re: #680 NYCHardhat

The Saudis are Fubar


From your link:

But in lingerie stores, that means men are talking to women about bras or thongs, looking them up and down to determine their cup sizes, even rubbing the underwear to show how stains can be washed out.


No shit.

692 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:07:07pm

re: #686 UberInfidel67

Who's gonna check up her ass for drugs when she comes back across the border?

YOU!

693 ciaospirit  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:07:10pm

re: #652 pink freud

Oh shit. Mark Levin just said he has no problem with teaching "both" (creationism and evolution) in public schools.

(He's yelling at some loser from Shreveport, LA)

He didn't say they should be teaching it.

694 Mad Mullah  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:07:15pm
I am rolling my own again though. The taxes haven't hit the bags of tobacco yet.

Obama overturned a Bush veto, and in a few days starting on April 1, the taxes on roll your own will go up 2200%, that's not a mistype.

695 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:07:16pm

re: #686 UberInfidel67

Who's gonna check up her ass for drugs when she comes back across the border?

Roto Rooter?

696 Aviator  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:07:36pm

re: #686 UberInfidel67

Who's gonna check up her ass for drugs when she comes back across the border?

Bill went with her?

697 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:07:46pm

re: #687 midwestgak

I belong to that very small percentile of Caucasians that have this defect. :-(

Many Asians have the same inability to metabolize alcohol.

Yeah, you ain't seem flushed till you've seen a Chinese after a glass of red wine.

698 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:07:47pm

re: #632 NYCHardhat

I quit. You?

don't smoke much, but roll my own.

699 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:08:00pm

OT -

Current weather forecast for Denver and the front range foothills. Fifteen inches of snow tomorrow, 1 to 2 feet of snow in the foothills.

I've got a pot of homemade veggie soup brewing and no place to go until Friday.

I think I'll sit back and watch the show.

Cozy.

700 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:08:02pm

re: #691 Racer X

No shit.

That is creepy.

701 Lincolntf  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:08:04pm

re: #690 Guanxi88

Hell, my "pipe" doesn't use ANY tobacco.

702 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:08:08pm

re: #675 callahan23

I wasn't being sarcastic either. Your condition just plain sucks. Almost as bad as this guy I once knew who was deathly allergic to just about ever fruit and vegetable there is. Potatoes were just about the only veg he could safely eat.

703 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:08:23pm

re: #698 brookly red

don't smoke much, but roll my own.

doobage?

704 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:08:43pm

WASHINGTON (AFP) — A US military F-22 aircraft, the world's most advanced fighter jet, crashed in the southern California desert Wednesday, an Air Force spokesman said.
"An Air Force F-22 crashed at about 10:00 am (1700 GMT) approximately 35 miles northeast of Edwards Air Force Base, California," US Air Force Richard Johnson said.
The jet left from Edwards Air Force base on a test mission, he said, adding: "One pilot was on board. His condition is unknown."

[Link: www.google.com...]

Pilot's fate unknown? That's not good.

705 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:09:01pm

re: #701 Lincolntf

Hell, my "pipe" doesn't use ANY tobacco.

Easy there, easy. Some folks like their coffee, and some like their tea. Eh, I;m indifferent

706 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:09:09pm

re: #691 Racer X

No shit.

LMAO!

707 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:09:14pm

HOLY SHIT!
Forget about Orwelian Newspeak.....this is HUGE!
Palin Faces Latest Ethics Complaint

/trillions?

708 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:09:15pm

re: #699 Walter L. Newton

OT -

Current weather forecast for Denver and the front range foothills. Fifteen inches of snow tomorrow, 1 to 2 feet of snow in the foothills.

I've got a pot of homemade veggie soup brewing and no place to go until Friday.

I think I'll sit back and watch the show.

Cozy.

what!...did you get your blizzard the other night?....

709 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:09:24pm

re: #682 pink freud

The context: A self-identified Dem from Shreveport calling into Levin's show, asking Levin what he thought about teaching creationism in the schools. Levin zipped right to Jindal, saying something about liberals in LA. hating the fact that Jindal was behind this in the schools and that he, Levin supported it.

There was more, but that's the gist. Levin screamed a lot.

Uhoh.

710 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:09:26pm

re: #696 Aviator

Bill went with her?

Just a hunch, but i think Bill's into younger chicks?

711 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:09:47pm

re: #686 UberInfidel67

Snuke?

712 tradewind  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:09:51pm

Dammit, I hate smug. Especially smug-ugly.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

713 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:09:54pm

re: #690 Guanxi88
I would probably look stupid smoking a pipe since I am female. lol Maybe when I am 90 and sitting on the porch with a chotgun.........

714 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:09:57pm

re: #710 Nevergiveup

Just a hunch, but i think Bill's into younger chicks?

Frequently, from what I understand.

715 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:10:01pm

re: #685 buzzsawmonkey

In the Byzantine bathhouse of Beersheba
The moon was shining on her hair
In the Byzantine bathhouse of Beersheba
I found my own Queen of Sheba there...

Interesting, I was spending the afternoon reading LGF and attributing some less then pristine quality Byzantine folli.

Lots of fun, like detective work. And holding history in your hand.

716 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:10:03pm

re: #703 NYCHardhat

doobage?

no.

717 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:10:06pm

re: #699 Walter L. Newton

OT -

Current weather forecast for Denver and the front range foothills. Fifteen inches of snow tomorrow, 1 to 2 feet of snow in the foothills.

I've got a pot of homemade veggie soup brewing and no place to go until Friday.

I think I'll sit back and watch the show.

Cozy.

I'll bet you make one hell of a pot of Veggie soup Walter..
Regards.

718 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:10:12pm

re: #688 albusteve

I keep 'em pretty simple when I can. Forget the camel-under-the-tent argument (which nevertheless is valid) ....I flat out do NOT want religion in any form taught in the schools. Reading, writing, 'rithmatic ....civics, history (and not Howard Zinn's version), language ....NO RELIGION.

719 BigMoo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:10:24pm

re: #592 USBeast

Well said-sad but true.

720 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:10:29pm

re: #692 albusteve
OH HELL NO!

721 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:10:42pm

re: #686 UberInfidel67

Who's gonna check up her ass for drugs when she comes back across the border?

Come to think of it, Helen Thomas would make the perfect drug mule. There isn't enough courage in this world to make somebody give her a cavity check..........

722 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:10:54pm

re: #713 UberInfidel67

I would probably look stupid smoking a pipe since I am female. lol Maybe when I am 90 and sitting on the porch with a chotgun.........

No, there are some very elegant pipes out there for women. You should see some of the dainty little silver ones the women in Fujian smoke, or the elaborately-carved lady's pipes favored by Turks.

723 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:11:07pm

re: #683 avanti

Actually, I was hoping someone that made a tour after I did in 1967-68 would comment on how they handled the Wiblics.

Where did you go for R&R?

724 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:11:09pm

re: #680 NYCHardhat

The Saudis are Fubar

What's lingerie? A burka that lets light through?

725 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:11:20pm

re: #687 midwestgak

I belong to that very small percentile of Caucasians that have this defect. :-(

Many Asians have the same inability to metabolize alcohol.

It is not the alcohol with me it's those freaking amino acids and the liver not metabolizing them quickly enough.
Asians, however react to the natural poisonous and antibiotic effects of alcohol.

726 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:11:22pm

re: #701 Lincolntf
Crack? j/k

727 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:11:26pm

re: #693 ciaospirit

He didn't say they should be teaching it.

You're right, ciaospirit ...an important distinction. Thanks.

728 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:11:36pm

re: #721 LGoPs

Come to think of it, Helen Thomas would make the perfect drug mule. There isn't enough courage in this world to make somebody give her a cavity check..........

I just threw up in my mouth . :(

729 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:11:47pm
730 USBeast  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:11:50pm

re: #678 UberInfidel67

I really am trying. I find that rolling my own helps me cut down too. When I sit and read at night, the cat is on my lap so I can't get up to roll one. Plus, the big incentive in this house is that we just painted everything WHITE!

Believe me, I know how hard it is. I was dating my now ex when I quit. I told her: "I'm going to quit smoking and I don't want to see you for two weeks." "Why?" she asked. I said: "Because it's likely I'm going to want to kill something and I don't want it to be you."

It's hard. It's damned hard. The worst times are three days in, two weeks in and, for some reason eighteen months in. These are the times when you tell yourself that you can smoke just one. It's a lie.

I'm rootin' for ya.

731 BigMoo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:12:04pm

re: #601 midwestgak

LMAO-that's just plain funny.

732 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:12:05pm

re: #315 DisturbedEma

Helen?

Sorry, been out for a while, I will catch up.

Ema, see my #108

733 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:12:15pm

re: #687 midwestgak

My GF is Japanese and has this condition.
But no problem. I have a condition that, when I drink, I destroy mine and the lives of those around me.
So, we're compatibly sober.

734 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:12:16pm

re: #693 ciaospirit

He didn't say they should be teaching it.


Am so confused now. Didn't hear him myself.

735 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:12:52pm

re: #723 rightymouse

Where did you go for R&R?

Hong Kong, Subic Bay, Sasebo (sp?)

736 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:12:59pm

re: #694 Mad Mullah

Obama overturned a Bush veto, and in a few days starting on April 1, the taxes on roll your own will go up 2200%, that's not a mistype.

They never learn. They have all these big shiny plans to use tobacco tax money on something, usually for the chiiiiillllllldrreeeen. Raising taxes on tobacco causes a certain percentage of smokers to quit, thereby reducing the actual revenue. They can't figure out why the revenue is so low, so they raise the tax again. Lather, rinse, repeat.

737 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:13:29pm

re: #708 albusteve

what!...did you get your blizzard the other night?....

We didn't get any snow in the Denver area the other night.

738 96RoadKing  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:13:35pm

Just curious: What's the combat ribbon look like for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'?

739 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:13:37pm

re: #728 DEZes

I just threw up in my mouth . :(

LOL......sorry.
:)

740 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:13:48pm

Obama Asks Volcker to Lead Panel on Tax-Code Overhaul (Update4)

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

What could possibly go wrong?

741 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:13:57pm

re: #717 HoosierHoops

I'll bet you make one hell of a pot of Veggie soup Walter..
Regards.

It's the parrot that tops it off.

742 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:14:16pm
743 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:14:16pm

re: #739 LGoPs

LOL......sorry.
:)

Me too! ;)

744 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:14:21pm

re: #738 96RoadKing

Just curious: What's the combat ribbon look like for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'?

A fucking rainbow....

745 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:14:23pm

re: #722 Guanxi88
Really? That is something I have to find out more about. I do know that women are enjoying cigars these days. Maybe we should smoke pipes. Very interesting. Thank you for telling me.

746 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:14:27pm

re: #716 brookly red

no.

JK!

747 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:14:47pm

re: #738 96RoadKing

Just curious: What's the combat ribbon look like for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'?

If you don't ask, I won't tell.

748 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:14:52pm

re: #737 Walter L. Newton

We didn't get any snow in the Denver area the other night.

ABQ is the driest on record for winter....beautiful weather, dry as a bone

749 Rolltideroll  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:15:08pm

So, are we at war with Eurasia or not?

750 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:15:24pm

re: #749 Rolltideroll

So, are we at war with Eurasia or not?

No. The media.

751 BigMoo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:15:40pm

re: #737 Walter L. Newton

Ran into a good snowy mess on the way down to Monument from DIA late last night on I-25.
Battening down the hatches here for tomorrow...

752 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:15:43pm

re: #730 USBeast
Much aprreciated kind sir : )

753 Dar ul Harbarian  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:15:46pm

Maybe the Government could rename the Dept. of Defense the Department of Regrettable Affairs; Department of Unpleasantness; or Department of Limited Options.

The Pentagon could be renamed The Office Building Over There.

754 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:15:47pm

re: #723 rightymouse

Where did you go for R&R?

Hanoi, Moscow, Red China....the Red River.....Baton Rouge.....anyplace red.
Sorry. Couldn't resist.

755 screaming_eagle  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:16:29pm

re: #686 UberInfidel67

Who's gonna check up her ass for drugs when she comes back across the border?

Someone will need to check for a Snuke

756 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:16:33pm

re: #748 albusteve

ABQ is the driest on record for winter....beautiful weather, dry as a bone

I don't know if we are at a record, but same here, really dry winter. And remember 2 winters ago, we had SIX blizzards in a row, a snow pack in Denver for 63 consecutive days.

757 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:16:58pm

re: #750 NYCHardhat

No. The media.

Americans are getting their mojo in motion...the media is teetering and BO is fucking drunk....not bad so far

758 96RoadKing  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:17:11pm

re: #747 Nevergiveup


Damn...too late!

759 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:17:12pm

I wonder if The Obama is a troofer.

//.....sort of

760 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:17:19pm

re: #754 LGoPs

Hanoi, Moscow, Red China....the Red River.....Baton Rouge.....anyplace red.
Sorry. Couldn't resist.

PUH-LEEZE!
Please don't put Baton Rouge in the same "red" category as Hanoi, Moscow, Red China . . .

761 BigMoo  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:17:30pm

re: #753 Dar ul Harbarian

Based on your ingenious word crafting, you could make a fine addition to the Obama Admin- LOL.

762 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:17:32pm

re: #702 Slumbering Behemoth

I wasn't being sarcastic either. Your condition just plain sucks. Almost as bad as this guy I once knew who was deathly allergic to just about ever fruit and vegetable there is. Potatoes were just about the only veg he could safely eat.

THAT IS a poor bugger indeed. I am happy to need to avoid only too much intake of those particular amino acids. They are in beer and a heavily bodied red wines. So it's one and a half glass that I should drink. Other alcoholic beverages are no problem. That is, of course same problems as other people (getting drunk and it's effects) HA :-)

763 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:17:33pm

re: #757 albusteve

Americans are getting their mojo in motion...the media is teetering and BO is fucking drunk....not bad so far

I really want to attend some tea parties and let off some steam.

764 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:17:45pm

re: #735 avanti

Hong Kong, Subic Bay, Sasebo (sp?)

What ship?

765 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:17:45pm

re: #751 BigMoo

Ran into a good snowy mess on the way down to Monument from DIA late last night on I-25.
Battening down the hatches here for tomorrow...

Monument exists in another quantum time loop. That area is almost spooky.

766 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:18:05pm

re: #760 reine.de.tout

PUH-LEEZE!
Please don't put Baton Rouge in the same "red" category as Hanoi, Moscow, Red China . . .

Hear, hear!

767 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:18:09pm

re: #760 reine.de.tout

PUH-LEEZE!
Please don't put Baton Rouge in the same "red" category as Hanoi, Moscow, Red China . . .

No offense.....sorry. I was just trying to think of places that had red in their name......
:)

768 pat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:18:10pm

Complete misuse of the word "contingency"

769 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:18:31pm

re: #754 LGoPs

Hanoi, Moscow, Red China....the Red River.....Baton Rouge.....anyplace red.
Sorry. Couldn't resist.


lol!

770 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:18:39pm

re: #745 UberInfidel67

Really? That is something I have to find out more about. I do know that women are enjoying cigars these days. Maybe we should smoke pipes. Very interesting. Thank you for telling me.

Yes, the Fujian pipes, in particular. Silver, with a sort of churchwarden stem, about two feet long in total, very slim, a bowl just large enough for maybe three good pinches of tobacco. Very elegant, those.

The Lady's pipes from turkey are made out of meerchaum, and are carved in some of the most delicate and fantastic patterns you can imagine. A common motif is of a hand holding a rosebud, which is the bowl of the pipe. Usually these have silver fittings, too, and I've seen one that even had a little chain so the user could wear it around her neck when not in use, as a sort of decorative element.

771 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:18:42pm

re: #742 buzzsawmonkey
The hipocrisy drives me NUTS!

772 Racer X  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:18:44pm

re: #735 avanti

You are so full of crap.

I pegged you as a Moby the first day you showed up. I stand by that initial assessment.

773 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:18:57pm

re: #763 NYCHardhat

I really want to attend some tea parties and let off some steam.

If you can handle it.

774 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:18:58pm

re: #756 Walter L. Newton

I don't know if we are at a record, but same here, really dry winter. And remember 2 winters ago, we had SIX blizzards in a row, a snow pack in Denver for 63 consecutive days.

I do recall...Denver was getting hammered while we copped a nice tan

775 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:19:04pm

re: #768 pat

Complete misuse of the word "contingency"

Yeah it means that we will lose civilans before he even lifts a finger. He is a monster.

776 NYCHardhat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:19:34pm

re: #773 DEZes

If you can handle it.

Yeah. I'm a bit unstable like the economy at this point.

777 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:19:42pm

re: #764 rightymouse

What ship?

Newport News CA-148. (Call sign Thunder)

778 pat  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:19:46pm

re: #770 Guanxi88

Yes, the Fujian pipes, in particular. Silver, with a sort of churchwarden stem, about two feet long in total, very slim, a bowl just large enough for maybe three good pinches of tobacco. Very elegant, those.

The Lady's pipes from turkey are made out of meerchaum, and are carved in some of the most delicate and fantastic patterns you can imagine. A common motif is of a hand holding a rosebud, which is the bowl of the pipe. Usually these have silver fittings, too, and I've seen one that even had a little chain so the user could wear it around her neck when not in use, as a sort of decorative element.

Sounds like a hash pipe to me, with an opium back up.

779 USBeast  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:20:06pm

re: #752 UberInfidel67

Much aprreciated kind sir : )

Gotta protect our noble selves. There's so damned few of us left. ;)

780 Lincolntf  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:20:19pm

re: #759 vagabond trader

I'm really surprised that none of his appointees/aides, etc. has come out with some Trutherism yet.
Rahm must be keeping them muzzled.

781 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:20:25pm

re: #694 Mad Mullah

Obama overturned a Bush veto, and in a few days starting on April 1, the taxes on roll your own will go up 2200%, that's not a mistype.

so, the black market will do well, & quite frankly I am OK with that.

782 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:20:31pm

re: #768 pat

Complete misuse of the word "contingency"

Complete misuse of the word "President".

783 Gramfan  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:21:05pm

OT
The link viewer is misbehaving. Sometimes it shows up and sometimes it doesn't?

784 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:21:06pm

re: #778 pat

Sounds like a hash pipe to me, with an opium back up.

Well, I'm not saying that the Fujian ladies always smoked only tobacco, or that the Turkish ldies only smoked only tobacco.....

Still, tobacco is most common, although the Turks are still known to add a little something extra from time to time, for flavor.

785 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:21:06pm

re: #742 buzzsawmonkey

Not to mention the hypocrisy of funding ad campaigns urging people to quit, stigmatizing smokers with endless restrictions, and still relying on the tax money.

On that I am gonna light up another.
What a joy.
half a sarc/

786 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:21:21pm

re: #764 rightymouse

What ship?

wtf does that have to do with his posts?

787 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:21:37pm

re: #762 callahan23

Other alcoholic beverages are no problem. That is, of course same problems as other people (getting drunk and it's effects) HA :-)

That's a relief, then. At least you can enjoy some form of brain bleach.

788 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:21:41pm

re: #738 96RoadKing

Just curious: What's the combat ribbon look like for 'Overseas Contingency Operation'?

Designed in SoHo..........

789 96RoadKing  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:21:47pm

re: #770 Guanxi88

Yes, the Fujian pipes, in particular. Silver, with a sort of churchwarden stem, about two feet long in total, very slim, a bowl just large enough for maybe three good pinches of tobacco. Very elegant, those.

The Lady's pipes from turkey are made out of meerchaum, and are carved in some of the most delicate and fantastic patterns you can imagine. A common motif is of a hand holding a rosebud, which is the bowl of the pipe. Usually these have silver fittings, too, and I've seen one that even had a little chain so the user could wear it around her neck when not in use, as a sort of decorative element.

Sorry to butt in, but you note turkey (Turkey?). I'm heading to Istanbul next month, and this looks interesting. Or am I completely off base?

790 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:21:51pm

re: #676 LGoPs

This is bullshit the way they're loading up the taxes. I'm an ex-smoker but will still defend other's rights. If the shit is so bad then the government ought to outlaw it. Of course they won't because there's too much revenue. Government speaks with forked tongue.

Yeah. And here Hillary is bad-mouthing the US' contributing to violence in Mexico, just wait until all of the mafioso type organizations start black-marketing cigerettes. But I have to think this is only the beginning of constrictive taxes on non-PC products. Fast food, anyone?

791 deermusic  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:22:00pm

re: #185 wiffersnapper

OCO? More like LOCO

You can get that by calling it the "Long Overseas Contingency Operation."

In any case, the refusal to name the war properly by both the present and the past administration is pathetic.

792 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:22:01pm

re: #781 brookly red

so, the black market will do well, & quite frankly I am OK with that.

I lived in Brooklyn in the 50's and 60's, and I never saw an illegal pack of cigarettes (or fireworks, or booze or...)

:)

793 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:22:08pm

re: #723 rightymouse

Where did you go for R&R?

********************
Action Report
********************
It was Christmas 1967 when Avanti and Kerry found themselves in a narrow waterway in Cambodia.. It was a crazy night..We had already polished off 15 cases of Bud when Kerry began running around like a crazy man firing his M16..It was a pretty fun night..We were going to burn down a Village but half of us passed out on the beach..But old Johnny kept firing his M16..That dude is crazy....
******************
Official Action report
*****************

794 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:22:27pm

re: #783 Gramfan

OT
The link viewer is misbehaving. Sometimes it shows up and sometimes it doesn't?

Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.

795 midwestgak  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:22:55pm

re: #762 callahan23

THAT IS a poor bugger indeed.

From whence hail thee? :)

796 96RoadKing  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:23:12pm

re: #788 IslandLibertarian
LOL!

797 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:23:43pm

re: #787 Slumbering Behemoth

That's a relief, then. At least you can enjoy some form of brain bleach.

And very much needed in these times. Indeed!

798 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:23:55pm

re: #751 BigMoo

Ran into a good snowy mess on the way down to Monument from DIA late last night on I-25.
Battening down the hatches here for tomorrow...

We're supposed to get a batch of global warming in Oklahoma too.

799 Shug  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:24:31pm

No Global Whining

800 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:24:59pm

re: #786 albusteve

wtf does that have to do with his posts?

He said he was in the Navy.

801 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:25:26pm

re: #790 Soona'

It's also a tenative grab for guns. We baaaad Americans seem to be causing the problems in Mexico by sending guns down there.

802 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:25:30pm

re: #798 Soona'

We're supposed to get a batch of global warming in Oklahoma too.

Eeeek, my grass is turning green:(
"Curse you lawn mower."
Yes, I hate yard work.

803 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:25:34pm

re: #790 Soona'

Yeah. And here Hillary is bad-mouthing the US' contributing to violence in Mexico, just wait until all of the mafioso type organizations start black-marketing cigerettes. But I have to think this is only the beginning of constrictive taxes on non-PC products. Fast food, anyone?

And like others have said, they use the taxes to subsidize more and more programs and then raise the taxes and scratch their heads when there's less and less revenue. And they subsidize the tobacco farmers while demonizing those who use the product. It is truly schizophrenic.
And we voted to get more of this? My mind reels.

804 screaming_eagle  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:25:37pm

re: #799 Shug

No Global Whining


Where's Obama speaking at now?

805 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:25:51pm

re: #770 Guanxi88 I love the idea of wearing it around the neck. How....."cosmopolitan" would I look?

806 USBeast  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:25:57pm

re: #798 Soona'

We're supposed to get a batch of global warming in Oklahoma too.

March may come in like a lion and go out like a lamb, but it's a rabid wolverine in between.

807 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:26:01pm

re: #623 UberInfidel67

$8 a PACK?!?!?!?!?!?! I should quit bitching then. My regular brand went from 3.59 without tax added to about 4.00 without tax added. Still.......$8 a PACK!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I am rolling my own again though. The taxes haven't hit the bags of tobacco yet.

It's for the children.

808 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:26:04pm

re: #789 96RoadKing

Sorry to butt in, but you note turkey (Turkey?). I'm heading to Istanbul next month, and this looks interesting. Or am I completely off base?

Yeah, these type of things are all over the place there. Most are carved up in Eskisehir, but the shops in the cities are all full of them. Some very elaborate stuff, very beautifully executed, can be had for very reasonable prices. Some simply fantastic stuff is also out there, but tends to be too costly and simply too darned elaborate to smoke.

Try to resist the temptation to get one that's too small - a lot of the mini pipes are made from meerschaum powder "bonded" and compressed in some sort of adhesive. The block-carved pipes are better-grade, of course. I've always favored the simpler ones, where form and line were the main decorations, with maybe a little surface enrichment in the form of fine lattice work.. Others, though, go for the more fanciful.

Point is, there's a ton of variety in these. Quite nice, too.

809 screaming_eagle  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:26:17pm

re: #802 DEZes

Eeeek, my grass is turning green:(
"Curse you lawn mower."
Yes, I hate yard work.

One word


Round-up

810 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:26:37pm

re: #801 vagabond trader

It's also a tenative grab for guns. We baaaad Americans seem to be causing the problems in Mexico by sending guns down there.

Hey, I'm all for zipping that border air tight.

811 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:26:58pm

re: #805 UberInfidel67

I love the idea of wearing it around the neck. How....."cosmopolitan" would I look?

Pretty hip, for those who dig the whole "tribal" deal.

812 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:27:02pm

re: #800 rightymouse

He said he was in the Navy.

it's unseemly and obsessive...imo

813 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:27:04pm
814 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:27:06pm

re: #793 HoosierHoops

********************
Action Report
********************
It was Christmas 1967 when Avanti and Kerry found themselves in a narrow waterway in Cambodia.. It was a crazy night..We had already polished off 15 cases of Bud when Kerry began running around like a crazy man firing his M16..It was a pretty fun night..We were going to burn down a Village but half of us passed out on the beach..But old Johnny kept firing his M16..That dude is crazy....
******************
Official Action report
*****************


lol!

And they blew up some fishermen 'cause their radar wasn't enabled and the marines went crazy.

815 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:27:25pm

re: #804 screaming_eagle

Where's Obama speaking at now?

At Al Gores 10 square foot living room!

816 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:27:27pm

re: #807 loppyd

It's for the children.

What, is there a discount for kids, like at the movies?

817 ProUSA  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:27:36pm

Just stupid. But, I am not surprised after the Obama Homeland Security Czar's switch to "man-caused disasters". As Obama said in his campaign, "just words". Let's see some useful conduct from this air-for-brains administration.

Hmmm. We have "Homeland Security" for domestic "man-caused disasters", "Overseas Contingency Operations" for overseas "man-caused disasters". What if we need to take action in response to "man-caused disasters" in Mexico or Canada? "Next Door Neighbor Contingency Operations"?

Can I call this administration the "Obama Amateur Contingency Operation" or "Overblown Communist Contingency Operation"?

818 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:27:38pm

re: #784 Guanxi88
My son just informed me that the little tobacco shop I mentioned about had some really cool pipes. I have to check this place out soon.

819 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:27:45pm

re: #807 loppyd

It's for the children.

It'll just be the equivalent of one cup of coffee a week

820 96RoadKing  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:27:45pm

re: #808 Guanxi88

Yeah, these type of things are all over the place there. Most are carved up in Eskisehir, but the shops in the cities are all full of them. Some very elaborate stuff, very beautifully executed, can be had for very reasonable prices. Some simply fantastic stuff is also out there, but tends to be too costly and simply too darned elaborate to smoke.

Try to resist the temptation to get one that's too small - a lot of the mini pipes are made from meerschaum powder "bonded" and compressed in some sort of adhesive. The block-carved pipes are better-grade, of course. I've always favored the simpler ones, where form and line were the main decorations, with maybe a little surface enrichment in the form of fine lattice work.. Others, though, go for the more fanciful.

Point is, there's a ton of variety in these. Quite nice, too.

Many thanks! Now I have something to look forward to!

821 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:27:52pm

re: #699 Walter L. Newton

OT -

Current weather forecast for Denver and the front range foothills. Fifteen inches of snow tomorrow, 1 to 2 feet of snow in the foothills.

yes, please!

822 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:28:09pm

re: #810 Nevergiveup

Yeah, it's the obvious remedy, but when did the gubbermint ever opt for that? Especially this one.

823 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:28:10pm

re: #815 DEZes

At Al Gores 10 square foot living room!

10 thousand.
pimf

824 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:28:16pm

re: #795 midwestgak

From whence hail thee? :)

I got loads of English from studying at the 'Newcastle University' England. MSc in 'International Agricultural and Food Marketing'.
But I myself am german.

825 96RoadKing  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:28:19pm

re: #809 screaming_eagle
One word: concrete!

826 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:28:32pm

re: #789 96RoadKing
Bring me back a nice pipe : )

827 albusteve  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:28:42pm

re: #810 Nevergiveup

Hey, I'm all for zipping that border air tight.

90% of the problem solved right there....to complicated tho...need to talk some more

828 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:28:49pm

re: #818 UberInfidel67

My son just informed me that the little tobacco shop I mentioned about had some really cool pipes. I have to check this place out soon.

By all means, take a look. They frequently have some very nice cigarette holders carved from the same material.

829 midwestgak  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:29:48pm

re: #824 callahan23

I got loads of English from studying at the 'Newcastle University' England. MSc in 'International Agricultural and Food Marketing'.
But I myself am german.

Have you lived in or visiteed Germany?

830 screaming_eagle  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:30:02pm

re: #825 96RoadKing

One word: concrete!

Yeh that works too.

831 96RoadKing  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:30:06pm

re: #826 UberInfidel67
Silver chased, or gold?

832 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:30:17pm

re: #823 DEZes

10 thousand.
pimf


I thought so, LOL

833 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:30:38pm

re: #825 96RoadKing

One word: concrete!

I can paint that green, hmmmmm.

834 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:30:46pm

re: #789 96RoadKing

Sorry to butt in, but you note turkey (Turkey?). I'm heading to Istanbul next month, and this looks interesting. Or am I completely off base?

My mom went to Turkey two summers ago. Loved it. Lucky for Turkey as she writes a review of each destination on a major travel industry website!

835 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:31:02pm

re: #777 avanti

Newport News CA-148. (Call sign Thunder)


Rate, Rank and Division?

836 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:31:18pm

re: #311 LudwigVanQuixote

Perhaps there is some sort of quantum thing going on; positron tunneling or some such where the particles appear and disappear & just some of them re-appear so close to another particle, that they are on the other side of the curve of binding energy.

837 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:31:19pm

re: #818 UberInfidel67

My son just informed me that the little tobacco shop I mentioned about had some really cool pipes. I have to check this place out soon.

Great thing a bout a meerschaum pipe is you don;t have to "baby" the thing like you do with a briarwood pipe. Just put the tobacco in, light up, smoke (the stone cools the smoke down and catches some of the tars, etc. too), dump out the ashes, and it's ready to go again; you don't have to let a meerchaum pipe "rest" like you do with a briar one.

If he's buying here, Servi Meerschuam are an excellent maker with good market presence Stateside, and very good work at reasonable prices.

838 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:31:25pm

re: #811 Guanxi88
I LOVE that idea!

839 DEZes  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:31:39pm

re: #832 A Kiwi Infidel

I thought so, LOL

Maybe I was thinking he should be housed at Gitmo. ;)

840 Racer X  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:31:39pm

re: #813 Slumbering Behemoth

No, those totally ARE the droids I'm looking for.

LOL!

"There is nothing worse than old Jedi"

841 96RoadKing  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:31:41pm

re: #833 DEZes

I can paint that green, hmmmmm.


Not only that, you don't have to worry about wondering off the driveway.

842 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:31:42pm

re: #821 FrogMarch

yes, please!

As I mentioned above, I have a new 5 gallon pot of homemade veggie soup brewing. I'm all set.

This is the first time in a long time that most Coloradans (besides ski freaks) are HOPING for 2 feet of snow tomorrow.

843 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:32:16pm

re: #829 midwestgak

Have you lived in or visiteed Germany?

Worse, I am German and do live there.
Sometimes a nightmare, I tells ya.

844 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:32:34pm

re: #838 UberInfidel67

I LOVE that idea!

Fuijianese women usually carry these little silver brocade tobacco bags, wile their turkish sisters favor a sort of leather wallet type of deal for their tobacco pouches.

845 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:32:42pm

re: #827 albusteve

90% of the problem solved right there....to complicated tho...need to talk some more

And if we close the border, how are all those poor, poor Mexicans going to sell all those drugs?

846 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:32:55pm

Shrillary made a speech in Mexico in which she says WE are also to blame for THEIR drug violence.

847 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:33:16pm

re: #801 vagabond trader

It's also a tenative grab for guns. We baaaad Americans seem to be causing the problems in Mexico by sending guns down there.

Riddle me this: The drug problem is blamed on Americans, for providing the demand side of the equation. Drug dealers meeting this need fight among themselves and demand guns, which allegedly come from the U.S. Americans are also blamed, therefore, on the supply side. In the leftist mind, everything is our fault. Seriously, if we all joined a 12-step program tomorrow and never let a gun leave the States, they'd still be producing cocaine and killing each other.

848 trulyyours  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:33:53pm

Has anyone noticed that the new Director of Homeland Security has renamed "acts of terror" as something like "man made disasters" - as a man, I'm really offended and am demanding an apology from Ms. Nepolitano. We men are a peace loving people and it is only a radical sub-group that has engaged in causing disasters. Ms. Nepolitano is clearly sexist in her opinions and direly in need of sensitivity training. It may even become evident that she is a heterophobe.

849 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:34:21pm

re: #835 rightymouse

Rate, Rank and Division?

Sure, why don't you just ask for my name, since that's where you are headed.

850 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:34:42pm

re: #843 callahan23

Worse, I am German and do live there.
Sometimes a nightmare, I tells ya.

Where in Germany, if you don't mind? I was stationed there back in the mid 80's and loved it........

851 the1sgjohns  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:35:10pm

So how about the instead of OCOA we use something even more vague. OHSHTR. Open Handed Soft n Humble Team Retreat.

852 UncleRancher  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:35:37pm

re: #813 Slumbering Behemoth

That's FUNNY +ding

853 Lincolntf  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:35:45pm

re: #846 loppyd

I bet Hillary would sooner chop off her own hand than to ever blame Mexicans for crimes committed in America.
Selling out the U.S. is second nature to the bitter old shrew.

854 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:36:13pm

re: #831 96RoadKing Not one of the "bonded" types that Guanxi was talking about...one of the mid priced careved ones : )

855 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:36:23pm

re: #847 doppelganglander

They can all kiss my rightist arse. It's more of the victimhood crapola, line up and get your victim card.Everyone a frakking victim of the man.

856 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:36:31pm

re: #792 Walter L. Newton

I lived in Brooklyn in the 50's and 60's, and I never saw an illegal pack of cigarettes (or fireworks, or booze or...)

We can't regulate illegal PEOPLE, but some how we can collect taxes on cigarettes?, OMG some street vendors are already giving a free joint with every pack... the starting salary for a Cop is what 30K, and they are gonna pay 10 bucks for a pack of cigarettes?

Atlas filps a bird.

857 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:36:35pm

re: #812 albusteve

it's unseemly and obsessive...imo


Yes, he does.

858 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:36:37pm

re: #848 trulyyours

Has anyone noticed that the new Director of Homeland Security has renamed "acts of terror" as something like "man made disasters" - as a man, I'm really offended and am demanding an apology from Ms. Nepolitano. We men are a peace loving people and it is only a radical sub-group that has engaged in causing disasters. Ms. Nepolitano is clearly sexist in her opinions and direly in need of sensitivity training. It may even become evident that she is a heterophobe.

Isn't she the ex-Louisiana Guv that screwed up much of the Katrina response? But of course it was all Bush's fault.....
/

859 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:36:52pm

re: #854 UberInfidel67

Not one of the "bonded" types that Guanxi was talking about...one of the mid priced careved ones : )

Go get silver fittings; gold's just too flashy.

860 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:37:00pm

re: #843 callahan23

Worse, I am German and do live there.
Sometimes a nightmare, I tells ya.

I'll be flying into Frankfurt in May for a day on my way to the Ukraine. I lived in Germany for five years (military) and I loved it. German women rock!

861 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:37:39pm

re: #849 avanti

Sure, why don't you just ask for my name, since that's where you are headed.

Well..you could always just make it up.

862 the1sgjohns  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:37:40pm

re: #848 trulyyours

Has anyone noticed that the new Director of Homeland Security has renamed "acts of terror" as something like "man made disasters" - as a man, I'm really offended and am demanding an apology from Ms. Nepolitano. We men are a peace loving people and it is only a radical sub-group that has engaged in causing disasters. Ms. Nepolitano is clearly sexist in her opinions and direly in need of sensitivity training. It may even become evident that she is a heterophobe.

ROGLMAO! I dog dare you to send that to your Senator.

863 ciaospirit  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:37:52pm

re: #734 rightymouse

Am so confused now. Didn't hear him myself.

The show'll be up at his website later tonight. You can listen to it for free.

864 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:37:53pm

re: #850 LGoPs

Where in Germany, if you don't mind? I was stationed there back in the mid 80's and loved it........

Family tree is solely positioned in Bremen but I live since ten years in Saarbruecken. Which sits right on the French border in the very south west of Germany. My town is not too far west from Kaiserslautern.

865 midwestgak  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:38:00pm

re: #843 callahan23

Worse, I am German and do live there.
Sometimes a nightmare, I tells ya.

Please tell, where's "there?" And what is the nightmare?

866 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:38:14pm

re: #858 LGoPs

Isn't she the ex-Louisiana Guv that screwed up much of the Katrina response? But of course it was all Bush's fault.....
/

Kathleen Blanco.

Birds of a feather.

867 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:38:19pm

re: #849 avanti

Sure, why don't you just ask for my name, since that's where you are headed.

what's you sign? LOL

868 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:38:30pm

re: #855 vagabond trader

addendum: and of course the Mexican "victims" will make a fresh block of demoncrap voters, citizens or not, dead or alive.

869 Lincolntf  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:38:58pm

re: #864 callahan23

Just chiming in here. I lived in Idar-Oberstein for a few years. Loved Saarbrucken.

870 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:39:10pm

re: #860 Soona'

I'll be flying into Frankfurt in May for a day on my way to the Ukraine. I lived in Germany for five years (military) and I loved it. German women rock!

Hey, how about a meet-up?

871 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:39:18pm

re: #867 brookly red

what's you sign? LOL

LOL

872 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:39:23pm

re: #863 ciaospirit

The show'll be up at his website later tonight. You can listen to it for free.


Ok. Thanks. :)

873 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:40:22pm

re: #867 brookly red

what's you sign? LOL

Heh.

874 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:40:28pm

re: #864 callahan23

Family tree is solely positioned in Bremen but I live since ten years in Saarbruecken. Which sits right on the French border in the very south west of Germany. My town is not too far west from Kaiserslautern.

Very nice. I lived in Aschaffenburg, not far from Hanau, when I was there. Beautiful country. And great food.
I spent a couple of months in a small town named Munsingen which as I recall was also close to the French border........
:)

875 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:41:10pm

re: #866 pink freud

Kathleen Blanco.

Birds of a feather.

Oh, you're right......Thanks.

876 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:41:27pm

re: #863 ciaospirit

The show'll be up at his website later tonight. You can listen to it for free.

To clarify, ciaospirit, I hope I didn't misrepresent Levin's position. I think the man is the bees knees. We don't get him here on my local stations and I have to stream him in order to hear his show. I just ordered his new book. I just hope he doesn't get painted with the creationisn brush as Jindal has.

877 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:41:47pm

re: #859 Guanxi88
Yeah, the gold would look too "ghetto" for me.

878 brookly red  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:42:51pm

re: #873 rightymouse

Heh.

see 849...

879 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:42:58pm

re: #865 midwestgak

Please tell, where's "there?" And what is the nightmare?

The 'nightmare' is the very left leaning way of thinking of many Germans. Certainly not all and probably not the majority. But I do have my run ins occasionally which explains my little rant.

880 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:42:59pm

re: #861 rightymouse

Well..you could always just make it up.

Normally, I would not mind sharing my name, but not sure if that would be a good idea on this blog.

881 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:43:18pm

re: #864 callahan23

Family tree is solely positioned in Bremen but I live since ten years in Saarbruecken. Which sits right on the French border in the very south west of Germany. My town is not too far west from Kaiserslautern.

I lived in Kaiserslautern for awhile until we (me and my wife-at-the-time) moved to a really nice place on the outskirts of Otterberg(Phalz).

882 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:43:35pm
883 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:44:02pm

re: #853 Lincolntf

I bet Hillary would sooner chop off her own hand than to ever blame Mexicans for crimes committed in America.
Selling out the U.S. is second nature to the bitter old shrew.

The knee jerk reaction of the left is always Blame America.

884 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:44:38pm

re: #877 UberInfidel67

Yeah, the gold would look too "ghetto" for me.

Silver is far more a "tribal" metal, anyway. Look at the Bedouin, decked in pounds of silver, the fine filigree-work of the Yemeni Jews, I could go on. Point is, silver's the only way to go, at least to my way of thinking.

I make an exception, though, for people from India and the sub-continent; their goldwork is beautiful, and, not to sound like a racist, it suitable to the range of pigmentation found there. Gold looks silly on pale skin.

885 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:46:30pm

re: #884 Guanxi88

Silver is far more a "tribal" metal, anyway. Look at the Bedouin, decked in pounds of silver, the fine filigree-work of the Yemeni Jews, I could go on. Point is, silver's the only way to go, at least to my way of thinking.

I make an exception, though, for people from India and the sub-continent; their goldwork is beautiful, and, not to sound like a racist, it suitable to the range of pigmentation found there. Gold looks silly on pale skin.

Funny you say that. I rarely wear gold and when I do it's only when I have a killer tan.

886 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:47:10pm

re: #870 callahan23

Hey, how about a meet-up?

When I find out exactly where I'll be staying and what's planned for the day, I'll let you know.

887 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:47:23pm

re: #683 avanti

Actually, I was hoping someone that made a tour after I did in 1967-68 would comment on how they handled the Wiblics.

Forgot to say that the moonbats in our country effectively enabled those unidentified flying Vietcong fishing boats and a whole lot of people died in the process. Millions in fact. Happy now?

888 UberInfidel67  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:47:26pm

re: #884 Guanxi88
**whining** I want a pipe from Turkey or India! You really got me going on this. : )

889 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:48:16pm

re: #878 brookly red

see 849...


And see 861.

890 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:48:41pm
891 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:48:42pm

re: #886 Soona'

When I find out exactly where I'll be staying and what's planned for the day, I'll let you know.

Great, I'll keep hanging around here. ;-)

892 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:49:02pm

re: #885 loppyd

Funny you say that. I rarely wear gold and when I do it's only when I have a killer tan.

See, as it should be. The reddish undertones of gold and its alloys is enhanced by the reflected color of suitably pigmented skin. If the underlying reflected light source has no reddish tint, then the true color of the gold shines too yellow and brassy. Silver, with its whitish-grey coloring, works best for pale skin, such as mine.

893 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:51:20pm

re: #888 UberInfidel67

**whining** I want a pipe from Turkey or India! You really got me going on this. : )

Eh, so head down to the tobacconist's; there's a workshop who advertise on E-bay out of turkey. I've had a connection with them in the past (not getting anything for saying this now); irmismarbel is their name. The chief carver is a Turkish soldier, retired, I think, from some years of service to NATO. The man is a true artist and loves his work.

894 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:52:24pm

re: #880 avanti

Normally, I would not mind sharing my name, but not sure if that would be a good idea on this blog.

Like I said, you could make everything up.

895 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:52:58pm
896 midwestgak  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:53:33pm

re: #879 callahan23

The 'nightmare' is the very left leaning way of thinking of many Germans. Certainly not all and probably not the majority. But I do have my run ins occasionally which explains my little rant.

I googled your city. Very green to the north. Actually a lot of green (forests?) all around you.
Saarbrucken

Sorry about the missing umlaut.

897 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:53:52pm

re: #887 rightymouse

Forgot to say that the moonbats in our country effectively enabled those unidentified flying Vietcong fishing boats and a whole lot of people died in the process. Millions in fact. Happy now?

So did you serve, before, or after me ? BTW, I have no idea what you just said meant.

898 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:54:33pm

Charles, and ALL Other Lizardim -

Women, Men and all others in-between -
We are told that we NO Longer Have a "War On Terror" - OK - I WILL Actually go with that. Wars are conducted against Peoples/Enemies - NOT TACTICS. MY Problem is that the Current Administration ACTUALLY BELIEVES that it has NO ENEMIES. That is - AT BEST - a conceit - TO PUT IT MILDLY!
We actually DO have ENEMIES. THEY ARE - Every MALE named "MUHAMMAD" who has been taught and accepts his FALSE SUPERIORITY in the World as it
ACTUALLY IS! Under what might be called "Orthodox Belief" - the Muslim Male is taught that more or less he is the CENTER of the UNIVERSE! Try again, oh ye of little achievement in relation to your numbers.
Wake up - TOMORROW MORNING - and make the Woman that you live with your partner. Educate yourself, your wife and your children in what ONCE WAS the Way of The Prophet - Seek Knowledge - From Even as Far as China.
Cut out your Middle Eastern Hip-Hop Posturing B.S. - Extend Your Hand, In Truth, Not TAQUIYAH,(a/k/a Arabic BS), and find friends who will welcome you. Take it from there. That is all.

-S-

899 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:56:13pm

re: #897 avanti

So did you serve, before, or after me ? BTW, I have no idea what you just said meant.

Many of the things you say don't ring true. Vets have a way of smelling that out and start drilling down to determine your bona fides so to speak. That's what I think rightymouse is referring to......

900 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:56:42pm

re: #876 pink freud

To clarify, ciaospirit, I hope I didn't misrepresent Levin's position. I think the man is the bees knees. We don't get him here on my local stations and I have to stream him in order to hear his show. I just ordered his new book. I just hope he doesn't get painted with the creationisn brush as Jindal has.

i heard his comments too. the guy calling in was a rude jerk, trying to get mark in a gotcha moment.
mark was having none of it.
he slammed the guy and refused to give any ground on the caller's attempt to put him on the defensive.
that was my take on it.
after the break mark came back and said something like he's not going to let
anyone attack something like i.d. when the left is doing so much more to undermine education and destroy our country.
this is the first i have heard him discuss creationism.
i'm such a levinbot, i'm obliged to give him the benefit of the doubt.

901 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:56:52pm

re: #897 avanti

So did you serve, before, or after me ? BTW, I have no idea what you just said meant.


I served after, cleaning up the mess.

And I bet you're the only one here who doesn't know what I meant. Were you even alive in 1975?

902 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:57:26pm

re: #892 Guanxi88

See, as it should be. The reddish undertones of gold and its alloys is enhanced by the reflected color of suitably pigmented skin. If the underlying reflected light source has no reddish tint, then the true color of the gold shines too yellow and brassy. Silver, with its whitish-grey coloring, works best for pale skin, such as mine.

Although I have a friend with beautiful dark red hair and tons of freckles and her gold jewelry looks very nice.

I sold a bunch of it last year - old bangle bracelets, hoop earrings, rings, necklaces, etc. Made a pretty penny!

903 Guanxi88  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:58:38pm

re: #902 loppyd

Although I have a friend with beautiful dark red hair and tons of freckles and her gold jewelry looks very nice.

I sold a bunch of it last year - old bangle bracelets, hoop earrings, rings, necklaces, etc. Made a pretty penny!

Red, you see, the gold has to get light bounced from something red, or have red somewhere in the area, to show it to the best effect.

904 rightymouse  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:58:44pm

Welp, it's the Mouse House witching hour.

Going couchular.

905 pink freud  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:58:52pm

re: #900 nyc redneck

I am new to the ranks of Levinbots, and while I admit I was surprised to hear what I heard, I'm with you ....benefit of the doubt. The caller was an ass and out to push buttons.

906 Soona'  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:59:13pm

re: #900 nyc redneck

i heard his comments too. the guy calling in was a rude jerk, trying to get mark in a gotcha moment.
mark was having none of it.
he slammed the guy and refused to give any ground on the caller's attempt to put him on the defensive.
that was my take on it.
after the break mark came back and said something like he's not going to let
anyone attack something like i.d. when the left is doing so much more to undermine education and destroy our country.
this is the first i have heard him discuss creationism.
i'm such a levinbot, i'm obliged to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I'm with you. Even if he did mention ID, let's quit killing the people on our side.

907 Racer X  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 4:59:38pm

re: #900 nyc redneck

- - ->

New thread discussing this.

908 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:00:38pm

re: #7 Armed

Yeah, because we'd hate to offend any of those terrorists.

...but most important, we don't want to offend Lefty.

909 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:00:57pm

re: #842 Walter L. Newton

As I mentioned above, I have a new 5 gallon pot of homemade veggie soup brewing. I'm all set.

This is the first time in a long time that most Coloradans (besides ski freaks) are HOPING for 2 feet of snow tomorrow.

You are so right. I'm hoping the forecast comes through...
After a Feb and March with virtually no snow -

A big pot o-soup sounds like a great idea. I think I'll make slow cooker chili tomorrow. I have a great vegetarian recipe.

910 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:03:10pm

re: #842 Walter L. Newton

As I mentioned above, I have a new 5 gallon pot of homemade veggie soup brewing. I'm all set.

5 gallons?!?!?

911 callahan23  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:03:49pm

re: #896 midwestgak

I googled your city. Very green to the north. Actually a lot of green (forests?) all around you.
Saarbrücken

Sorry about the missing umlaut.

Yes it has a lot of forests around, when you turn on the satellite image it is visible. The city is not very big but has enough of amenities to enjoy life plus the people are a mix, mentality-wise between German and French. Savoir vivre and laissez-faire.

912 tradewind  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:05:01pm

re: #755 screaming_eagle

Worst.
Southpark.
Evuh.

913 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:07:34pm

Barry speaking at a donk fund-raiser.

"Inherited" out of the gate.

I had to turn it off.

914 SFGoth  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:07:37pm

The Dem party has capitulated to the Communists and the Republicans are pushing creationism. C'mon Libertarian Party, make your move.

915 avanti  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:08:06pm

re: #901 rightymouse

I served after, cleaning up the mess.

And I bet you're the only one here who doesn't know what I meant. Were you even alive in 1975?

How could I have not been alive in 1975, I'll be 67 in August.

916 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:09:32pm

re: #913 loppyd

Barry speaking at a donk fund-raiser.

"Inherited" out of the gate.

I had to turn it off.

Our side needs to start a 527C like MoveOn.org and call it BushIsGone_GettheFuckOverIt.org

917 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:09:53pm

re: #916 LGoPs

Our side needs to start a 527C like MoveOn.org and call it BushIsGone_GettheFuckOverIt.org

LOL

918 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:10:21pm

Reagan never pulled that crap when he inherited Carter's mess.

919 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:11:05pm

re: #918 loppyd

Reagan never pulled that crap when he inherited Carter's mess.

Nor did W when he started with a recession courtesy of Slick Willie......

920 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:11:37pm

re: #900 nyc redneck

i heard his comments too. the guy calling in was a rude jerk, trying to get mark in a gotcha moment.
mark was having none of it.
he slammed the guy and refused to give any ground on the caller's attempt to put him on the defensive.
that was my take on it.
after the break mark came back and said something like he's not going to let
anyone attack something like i.d. when the left is doing so much more to undermine education and destroy our country.
this is the first i have heard him discuss creationism.
i'm such a levinbot, i'm obliged to give him the benefit of the doubt.

nyc redneck -

Dr. Levin has known Dr. Shalit since 2003. We are NOT exactly contemporary. Dr. Levin is younger than I am by +/- 6 years/calendar. Ha'Shem's trick on me - took me more years than that to get my thought process straight.
Dr. Levin does NOT suffer fools - I do NOT blame him. Further, WHEN he does not, He Makes It GOOD RADIO. In my work, I MUST suffer them a long as they pay their way. Dr. Levin apparently has sold about 500,000 BOOKS in the last couple of days - Let Me Say That Again - 1/2 Million BOOKS - NOT CD's or DVD's. Bloody Amazing - and more power/money to him.

-S-

921 xiphos  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:12:21pm

Needed: A "Domestic Contingency Operation" against the idiots in D.C.

922 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:12:56pm

re: #914 SFGoth

The Dem party has capitulated to the Communists and the Republicans are pushing creationism. C'mon Libertarian Party, make your move.

SFGoth -

Whaddabout - THE NEW WHIGS? Just wondering ye wise old owl.

-S-

923 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:13:06pm

re: #919 LGoPs

Nor did W when he started with a recession courtesy of Slick Willie......

Nor did W blame the Clinton administration for their failure to take out Bin Laden.

924 LGoPs  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:14:18pm

re: #923 loppyd

Nor did W blame the Clinton administration for their failure to take out Bin Laden.

No shit. Democrats are like spoiled children. No class or dignity whatsoever. Carter is still haunting us........

925 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:17:58pm

re: #924 LGoPs

No shit. Democrats are like spoiled children. No class or dignity whatsoever. Carter is still haunting us........

I wish he would just move to Gaza already.

926 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:19:16pm

re: #924 LGoPs

No shit. Democrats are like spoiled children. No class or dignity whatsoever. Carter is still haunting us........

LGoPs -

I still have to live with my 1976 and 1980 involvement with former President James Earl Carter, III. Sometimes makes me feel like the Ghost of X-Mas Past. Back then it seemed like an ethnic thing - since 9/11/2001 - NOT ENOUGH!

-S-

927 loppyd  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:26:07pm

Remember Nancy Pelosi's pledge to have the most ethical Congress evah?

Slow start for Pelosi's new watchdogs


It was one of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s “drain the swamp” proposals when Democrats took control of Congress: creation of an independent ethics watchdog to sweep aside the “culture of corruption” she says prevailed under Republicans.

But while the new Office of Congressional Ethics is finally in operation — a year after the House authorized it and more than two years after Pelosi was sworn in as speaker — the office has little to show for its work and is encumbered by layers of secrecy. It may be July at the earliest before the office reveals whether it has actually recommended any cases to the House ethics committee, and the specifics of its investigations will remain shrouded from public view.

The slow pace in getting the outside ethics office geared up also shows a larger problem House and Senate Democrats have on the ethics front — especially with troubled lawmakers such as Reps. Charles B. Rangel (D-N.Y.) and John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) — and that has party strategists privately concerned about a backlash in 2010.

“Republicans are getting some traction on the ethics issue,” admitted one Democratic insider. “What they are saying is getting play outside the Beltway.”

Could be an opening for the GOP

928 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:29:01pm

re: #926 Dr. Shalit

Reply to Self -

Remembering "the Days" - I once self-described myself as the "EastCoast PoorMan's Tom Hayden. Today, I would rather be identified with David Horowitz.

-S-

929 TheMatrix31  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 5:34:00pm

re: #707 IslandLibertarian

HOLY SHIT!
Forget about Orwelian Newspeak.....this is HUGE!
Palin Faces Latest Ethics Complaint

/trillions?

What a fucking joke.

930 DrNaughty  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 6:17:23pm

When fighting a war, it's always best to know who your enemies are in clear, simple terms...

"The Hun" = World War I

"Nazis" "Nips" "Japs" "Krauts" = World War II

"Commies" = Cold War, Korea

"Charlie" "NVA" = Vietnam

"Global War on Terror" is like the "War on Drugs"... "War on Cancer".. "War against organized criime".. it's too general. Even "War on Terrorists" means what? Not all terrorists are Islamic..

Although personally I prefer "War against Radical Islam", as those are the forces which we are engaged in battle against. Although personally, after the Jihadists are killed, we start to target the radical Mullahs and start taking out the Mosques where they preach their hatred towards western civilization and everthing it stands for. The Jihadists may not fear death and want to "martyr" themselves, but if we start taking out the objects they hold dear, such as where they gather and what they believe in, perhaps then they will understand the price of radical islam is too high....

Obama's belief in "moderate radicals" is as absurd as his other policies....

931 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 6:19:16pm

re: #930 DrNaughty

Dr. Naughty -

Effectively, "War on Jihad" (WOJ) I. That is all.

-S-

932 DrNaughty  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 6:24:08pm

re: #931 Dr. Shalit

Dr. Naughty -

Effectively, "War on Jihad" (WOJ) I. That is all.

-S-

Works for me as apparently we have "American Taliban" and other nutcases lurking in the mountains of Waziristan

933 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 6:49:23pm

Lizardim -

Unlike our Charles, PM Gordon Brown now has NO e-mail at the #10 website! - "Down for Updates" - so it says.
Was ready to offer him my CineVision DVP-650 directly, which tweaked WILL Play Pres. Obama's DVD's, the Chinese sometimes make Really Good Stuff. Used to communicate with PM Blair on the site. Their MoD at the time had NO Contact e-mail, which I thought was merely quaint, my office being the site of the WW II British Purchasing Commission on the US East Coast. The PM having NO e-mail is bloody silly.

-S-

934 GGMac  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 9:38:41pm

re: #37 Kosh's Shadow

It's a brilliant plan, you see. We have laugh detectors, so when the terrorists start laughing at us, we launch the missiles,
Unfortunately, they're from the 0bama joke store, and the pop out a big banner that says "Boom!"
/


And the obammunist falls on the floor in a fit of giggles.


/wish this WAS sarc...

935 DougieOh  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 11:09:12pm

So, I guess it's alright to change the name of the Operation.

The new name isn't too inspiring, though.

And I doubt they'll be minting an "Overseas Contingency Operation" medal any time soon for those that serve in the Operation.

Oh, and when I got shot at with PKM's, AK's, and RPG's last week East of Kabul, What was I shooting my .50 cal at? A Contingency? Awfully confusing.

936 Smorgasbord  Wed, Mar 25, 2009 11:55:31pm

I really don't care too much what they call it, as long as they quit calling it GBW (George Bush's War)

937 Sacred Plants  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 4:02:42am

Another operation in a war that has been going on for too long to bear a name, as good as any operation that may succed or fail to end it.

The new mantra certainly leaves a greater scope for discretion as to whether `stability´ is to value higher than `preemption´ or vice versa in comparison to the previous wording, and in the case of a lack of a sufficiently precise definition `contingency´ will just translate into `change´. Whatever kind of.


re: #843 callahan23

Worse, I am German and do live there.
Sometimes a nightmare, I tells ya.

Have you tried Davids Medienkritik?

938 callahan23  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 4:04:57pm

re: #937 Sacred Plants

Have you tried Davids Medienkritik?

Yeah a great source. Also noteworthy is Anti-Anti-Americanism.


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