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1 Kragar  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:52:11am

DAMN YOU GEORGE BUSH!

///

2 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:52:18am

I want to cry.

3 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:52:28am

CHANGE !

4 Right mind left  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:52:30am

Looks pretty RED to me...New Red State coming soon!

5 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:52:43am
6 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:52:51am

I weep for my children.

7 Kragar  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:52:58am

There comes a time when you just have to say "Fuck you, I aint paying for this shit."

8 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:53:04am

Makes both Bush and Clinton look like pikers in spending.

9 acwgusa  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:53:23am

Change. It's all we will have left.

10 NukeAtomrod  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:53:46am

Wow. I have seen the future and it is sucky.

11 Karmapolice  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:54:15am

You should all check the commenting boards on Obama's town hall meeting for the Yahoo! story. It's filled with people angry about Obama and his spending, there's only a few pro-Obama comments spread out that keep getting bumped off because people vote it down.

12 SlartyBartfast  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:54:22am

We're looking at the millstone that's being tied around the neck of the United States.

Damn this administration and it's leaders. To Hell with you all.

13 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:54:25am

re: #3 SasquatchOnSteroids

CHANGE !

We won't have any change left. We'll have to scour underneath our couch cushions to ship it off to China.

14 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:54:27am

If I were more conspiratorial minded, I'd say he was trying to bankrupt the country.

15 tfc3rid  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:54:31am

That graphic is nauseating...

16 tigger2005  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:54:35am

It must not happen. Vote the suckers out in 2010, get rid of the rubber-stamp Congress.

Republicans, HAMMER on this and would you please DROP the creationist SH*T!

17 tfc3rid  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:55:05am

re: #6 Leonidas Hoplite

I weep for my children.

You should be weeping for your Great-Great Grandchildren as well...

18 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:55:11am

Please use the email function and send this to as many folks as you can, Lizards.

19 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:55:20am

re: #2 Sharmuta

I want to cry.

I wouldn't do that, you may not be able to afford the tissue?

20 jamgarr  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:55:28am

To picture a trillion dollars:

Imagine a huge stack of one dollar bills that is a million bills high.

Now, replace every dollar bill with a million dollar bill.

21 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:55:29am

Damn, and I thought Enron's balance sheet looked bad.

22 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:55:29am

It's projected to be at its lowest point in 2012. I wonder why...

23 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:55:29am

re: #15 tfc3rid

That graphic is nauseating...

Seriously. All of us on the east coast who just ate lunch are going to toss it.

24 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:55:37am

Does this include 0's health care plan? If not, those red lines are going to get longer.

25 pink freud  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:55:45am

Awright Athos! I saw this on the LNDT. I'm going to print it out and carry it with me. A picture is worth a thousand words .....

/especially with moonbats, its the language that works best with them

26 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:55:51am

re: #11 Karmapolice

You should all check the commenting boards on Obama's town hall meeting for the Yahoo! story. It's filled with people angry about Obama and his spending, there's only a few pro-Obama comments spread out that keep getting bumped off because people vote it down.

Buyers remorse is setting in quicker than I thought it would.

27 LGoPs  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:56:03am

If you stand on your head, all the projections are up.
/

28 tfc3rid  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:56:13am

re: #24 Kosh's Shadow

Does this include 0's health care plan? If not, those red lines are going to get longer.

Excellent point...

29 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:56:15am

re: #19 Nevergiveup

I wouldn't do that, you may not be able to afford the tissue?

You can use $100 bills instead. Will probably be cheaper than tissues.

30 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:56:15am

re: #17 tfc3rid

You should be weeping for your Great-Great Grandchildren as well...

My kids won't be able to afford thier own children.

31 itellu3times  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:56:19am

re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

DAMN YOU GEORGE BUSH!

///

More like damn you citibank lehman wamu, but even so, heh.

32 turn  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:56:47am

I'm not optimistic that these are pessimistic projections either, it'll probably be much worse IMO.

33 capitalist piglet  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:00am

re: #16 tigger2005

It must not happen. Vote the suckers out in 2010, get rid of the rubber-stamp Congress.

Republicans, HAMMER on this and would you please DROP the creationist SH*T!

I think this urgency, this flurry of activity with the no-time-to-waste implementation of his policies and talk of more (like massive healthcare 'reform'), is in anticipation of a 2010 beat down. They want to go left as much as they can.

34 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:01am

I also stuck this in my favorites. I plan to use this a lot.

By the way- where's avanti?

35 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:07am

re: #11 Karmapolice

You should all check the commenting boards on Obama's town hall meeting for the Yahoo! story. It's filled with people angry about Obama and his spending, there's only a few pro-Obama comments spread out that keep getting bumped off because people vote it down.

Links?

36 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:16am

I hope everyone who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn't conservative enough is fucking happy now.

37 LGoPs  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:16am

WTF? My posts seem to be double posting.

38 itellu3times  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:17am

re: #27 LGoPs

If you stand on your head, all the projections are up.
/

down is the new up

39 Lee Coller  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:19am

Call your congresscritter and complain. I called mine yesterday. You can find their contact information here.

40 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:23am

And this is now called Investment.
F*** you, TOTUS.

41 JohnnyReb  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:33am

re: #24 Kosh's Shadow

Does this include 0's health care plan? If not, those red lines are going to get longer.

No it does not. And it also does not include the unfunded MEDICARE and SS payments. Add about another trillion or so a year to that chart to get the real numbers.

42 NukeAtomrod  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:33am

A New Era of "Responsibility."*

*Note: The Obama administration has redefined the offensive term "Depression" to the more socially acceptable term "Responsibility."

43 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:45am

re: #32 turn

I'm not optimistic that these are pessimistic projections either, it'll probably be much worse IMO.

It would be interesting to see actual deficits vs. CBO projections...someone on that?

44 tfc3rid  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:46am

re: #32 turn

I'm not optimistic that these are pessimistic projections either, it'll probably be much worse IMO.

Same here, they usually are...

45 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:48am

I was amazed when I heard recently the projections the Obama administration used in deficit and debt estimates in future years - five percent annual GDP growth, one percent annual inflation, etc. In other words, total bullshit.

46 Karmapolice  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:57:54am

re: #26 Sharmuta

Buyers remorse is setting in quicker than I thought it would.

It's incredible. I was shocked when I went to it, expecting a bunch of pro-Obama praises. Then, I look at all the comments and they're all ripping on Obama's budget and spending. The ones ripping on Obama are getting 40+ positive ratings and the ones defending Obama (which have no logical arguments involved) are getting -30 ratings. It's shocking.

47 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:58:24am

Didn't you all hear the proclamation that the deficit was going to be reduced 50% in four years? The disclaimer in small print was that it had to be quadrupled first.

48 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:58:27am

re: #34 Sharmuta

I also stuck this in my favorites. I plan to use this a lot.

By the way- where's avanti?

Hey now, covering dicks is hard work for him.

49 Karmapolice  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:58:33am

re: #35 Honorary Yooper

[Link: buzz.yahoo.com...]

50 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:58:33am

re: #46 Karmapolice

Give us a link!

51 Right mind left  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:58:41am

We been DUPED!

52 vxbush  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:02am

But this same image is at the Heritage Foundation. So who really created the image?

53 Pupdawg  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:03am

The Obama 'dust-me-down bowl' of hope and change seasoned with recession soon foloowed by runaway inflation and then full-flavored depression...excuse me brother, can you spare a bailout retirement plan? The soup line forms to the rear.
Is ACORN, Fannie Mae or Freddy Mac hiring? I hear they give huge bonuses still!

54 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:16am

It's like when you get a couple of new credit cards. Man, I can spend
some money now.

55 soxfan4life  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:17am

Where is any of it balanced? Didn't the Zero run on a pay as you go budget. How does one run in that much debt on pay as you go? What another campaign promise tossed aside in the name of progress. Have I mentioned that I cannot stand what this asshat is doing to our country.

56 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:22am

re: #42 NukeAtomrod

A New Era of "Responsibility."*

*Note: The Obama administration has redefined the offensive term "Depression" to the more socially acceptable term "Responsibility."

Then why won't they accept responsibility for screwing up the country?

57 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:24am

re: #48 Honorary Yooper

Hey now, covering dicks is hard work for him.

Avanti is an under-sized prophylactic?

58 vxbush  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:32am

re: #52 vxbush

But this same image is at the Heritage Foundation. So who really created the image?

Never mind; answered my own question. It is the Post's.

59 turn  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:39am

re: #43 Leonidas Hoplite

re: #44 tfc3rid

Isn't O also playing games by including the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars in the current budget so that he can write them down on the deficit when we pull out?

60 itellu3times  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:42am

re: #46 Karmapolice

It's incredible. I was shocked when I went to it, expecting a bunch of pro-Obama praises. Then, I look at all the comments and they're all ripping on Obama's budget and spending. The ones ripping on Obama are getting 40+ positive ratings and the ones defending Obama (which have no logical arguments involved) are getting -30 ratings. It's shocking.

Sounds good, but it may be an organized thing, and it may be a LuapNor operation, methinks (based on zero evidence).

61 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:52am

When it comes to Obama's plan to deeply indebt my great-grandchildren, I HOPE HE FAILS.

62 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:52am

re: #24 Kosh's Shadow

Does this include 0's health care plan? If not, those red lines are going to get longer.

Not to mention the waiting lines...

63 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:55am

re: #52 vxbush

But this same image is at the Heritage Foundation. So who really created the image?

From your link:

The Washington Post has a great graphic which helps put President Obama’s budget deficits in context of President Bush’s.

64 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 9:59:59am

re: #40 SasquatchOnSteroids

And this is now called Investment.
F*** you, TOTUS.

Course its called 'investment' - thats what Gord called his stealth taxes, public debts and inflated public spending for years.
PB0 is a fast learner ...

65 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:00am

re: #49 Karmapolice

[Link: buzz.yahoo.com...]

Heh.

Here's a sample:

Here ia question for you obama: When are you going to realize you are in way over your head? Everything about the presidency is above your pay grade.

That's got a +110 right now.

66 Karmapolice  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:03am

Ahaha. I loved this comment. In honor of Obama's presidency, Baskin Robbins is introducing a new ice cream. Barocky Road is a blend of half Vanilla, half Chocolate, and surrounded by Nuts and Flakes.

67 JohnnyReb  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:19am

Any bets on when we see some serious inflation? And I am not talking the piker stuff fro the 1970s. I want to pay off my mortgage with change from McDonald's.

68 godfrey  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:23am

I saw this graph a few days ago and forwarded it to all my friends.

That down-spike in 07-08 coincides with Democrat control of Congress, IIRC.

Shove this in the face of every Lefty you meet with a smile.

69 itellu3times  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:25am

re: #59 turn

re: #44 tfc3rid

Isn't O also playing games by including the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars in the current budget so that he can write them down on the deficit when we pull out?

Well yes, but in all fairness, why not?

70 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:26am

re: #59 turn

re: #44 tfc3rid

Isn't O also playing games by including the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars in the current budget so that he can write them down on the deficit when we pull out?

I thought I heard something like that but can't verify

71 tomg51spence  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:28am

Does it include Social Security going negative next year?
(just saw that somewhere today)

72 tfc3rid  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:28am

re: #59 turn

That I do not recall but I would not doubt that you were right...

73 Rednek  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:38am

The graph is a monument to the sustainability the Democrats preach about.

74 turn  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:42am

re: #43 Leonidas Hoplite

I'll see if I can google something, that would be interesting. I bet it backs up my suspicions.

75 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:52am

re: #22 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's projected to be at its lowest point in 2012. I wonder why...

Hmm... maybe that Mayan end-of-the-world thingy?

/

76 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:52am

re: #57 Leonidas Hoplite

Avanti is an under-sized prophylactic?

Yes

77 NukeAtomrod  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:56am

Soon it will be cheaper to wipe with dollar bills than to buy toilet paper. Think of it as recycling. Gives a whole new meaning to living a green lifestyle.

78 Karmapolice  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:00:58am

re: #65 Honorary Yooper

haha tha'ts the first one I read. I laughed so hard.

79 kynna  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:01:00am

None of the Obamabots I know would look at this chart and say anything but, "well, he needs to create this much debt because of everything George Bush did."

Ask them for specifics and they call you names.

80 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:01:10am

re: #46 Karmapolice

It's incredible. I was shocked when I went to it, expecting a bunch of pro-Obama praises. Then, I look at all the comments and they're all ripping on Obama's budget and spending. The ones ripping on Obama are getting 40+ positive ratings and the ones defending Obama (which have no logical arguments involved) are getting -30 ratings. It's shocking.

Linky?

81 vxbush  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:01:14am

re: #63 Sharmuta

Yes, I'm being a ditz. I blame pain. The pain of looking at what Obama is doing to our country.

82 soxfan4life  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:01:16am

re: #36 MandyManners

I hope everyone who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn't conservative enough is fucking happy now.

It wasn't that McCain wasn't conservative enough, it was that Palin had no experience.

/ duck and cover.

83 debutaunt  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:01:36am

re: #6 Leonidas Hoplite

I weep for my children.

...and grandchildren and great grandchildren...

84 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:01:39am

re: #66 Karmapolice

Ahaha. I loved this comment. In honor of Obama's presidency, Baskin Robbins is introducing a new ice cream. Barocky Road is a blend of half Vanilla, half Chocolate, and surrounded by Nuts and Flakes.

Because we know Ben and Jerry's wouldn't criticize the 0ne.

85 Randall Gross  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:01:45am

Rove says:

Last fiscal year, the deficit was $459 billion. For this fiscal year, it was $569 billion when Mr. Obama took office. Under his proposals, another $1.276 trillion will be added to the deficit this year, for a total of $1.845 trillion.

The CBO says deficits will fall for three years to $658 billion, still nearly 50% larger than any past deficit. After that, deficits go back up every year, reaching the trillion-dollar a year mark again in nine years. By 2019, the debt would reach 82.4% of GDP, a level not seen since 1947. With astonishing candor, even Peter Orszag, the president’s budget director conceded these levels of deficits and debt are “unsustainable.”

86 A.W.  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:01:56am

When Obama says he wants to bankrupt the US (even if he doesn't realize that this is what he is doing), is it okay to hope he fails?

87 Dustyvet  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:02:13am

re: #80 yma o hyd

Linky?

YMA

Any news in Madame?

88 jdog29  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:02:23am

Sounds like now's the time to buy stock in GM.

89 NukeAtomrod  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:02:29am

re: #56 Kosh's Shadow

Then why won't they accept responsibility for screwing up the country?

They're too depressed responsible.

90 JohnnyReb  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:02:40am

re: #71 tomg51spence

Does it include Social Security going negative next year?
(just saw that somewhere today)

I thought I saw a post somewhere today (possibly Drudge?) that said SS went negative last month.

91 Dustyvet  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:02:44am

re: #87 Dustyvet

YMA

Any news in Madame?

On Madame?

92 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:02:47am

re: #82 soxfan4life

It wasn't that McCain wasn't conservative enough, it was that Palin had no experience.

/ duck and cover.

Oh Please!

93 Randall Gross  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:02:54am

The only song that fits the zeitgeist:

Youtube Video
94 Karmapolice  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:03:31am

re: #80 yma o hyd

[Link: buzz.yahoo.com...]

95 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:03:52am

Looking at this, I think an investment in Zimbabwean currency might be a good idea.
/
(NOTE: I am not an investment advisor; follow my advice at your own risk.)

96 J.S.  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:04:08am

This picture (in the form of a graph) really does make the point (perhaps better than words or repeating over and over that the projected deficit will be three times greater than in previous years. .)

97 soxfan4life  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:04:12am

re: #86 A.W.

When Obama says he wants to bankrupt the US (even if he doesn't realize that this is what he is doing), is it okay to hope he fails?


No, it is only acceptable behavior for liberals to hope their fascist dictator types like Bush and Cheney fail. Hoping for a great enlightened leader such as 0bama to fail is not only unacceptable and unpatriotic, it could be considered blasphemous./

98 pink freud  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:04:27am

New from politico on the 0-meeting:

"In this moment of national economic crisis, the top four questions under the heading of “Financial security” concerned marijuana; on the budget, people voted up questions about marijuana to positions 1-4; marijuana was in the first and third positions under “jobs”; people boosted a plug for legalizing marijuana to No. 2 under “health care reform.” And questions about decriminalizing pot occupied spots 1 and 2 under “green jobs and energy.”

Ok, NOW we know what these voters care about.

99 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:04:33am

re: #86 A.W.

Let's try a more positive spin on that. How about:

When Obama says he wants to bankrupt the US (even if he doesn't realize that this is what he is doing), I hope the American people wake up and refuse to go quietly into that commie red sunset.

100 NukeAtomrod  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:05:14am

re: #61 Occasional Reader

When it comes to Obama's plan to deeply indebt my great-grandchildren, I HOPE HE FAILS.

You obviously hate America.

/ I'm about ready to move Reagan's remains to the Pet Sematary.

101 alegrias  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:05:18am

We can all play constructive roles right now during Obama's early days.

Our local state & national politicians are choking on this price tag and we can help them do a Heimlich maneuver on Obama's outrageous bank heist against our wallets.

I'm volunteering with a local candidate who wants to reverse this horrible course. She was a spokesperson for Republicans and is eager to fight back in our state legislature. Gotta start the counter-obama revolution somewhere.

102 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:05:23am

re: #79 kynna

None of the Obamabots I know would look at this chart and say anything but, "well, he needs to create this much debt because of everything George Bush did."

Ask them for specifics and they call you names.

Be sure to ask them how Ronald Reagan pulled us out of a deeper recession by doing almost exactly the opposite of what The One is doing.

103 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:05:24am

re: #90 JohnnyReb

I thought I saw a post somewhere today (possibly Drudge?) that said SS went negative last month.

Well, it is collecting a lot less following the massive layoffs of the past several months.

I wonder what the unemployment projection is for social security. Whatever it is, with all this hopeychangeysocialism I bet the assumption is too low.

104 godfrey  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:05:38am

I'm often too polite, and I'm sure many lizards think I'm way too polite, but the only thing to say about this graph and the reality it depicts is that -- not to put too fine a point on it --- Obama and his pals are assholes.

105 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:06:09am

re: #94 Karmapolice

[Link: buzz.yahoo.com...]

If that's any indication of how well Obama's town hall talk went over, then Obama failed at his town hall talk.

106 Irene NYC  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:06:10am

What still hasn't gotten through to most Americans is that a huge part of these deficits represent transfer payments to Obama's lackeys and will end up imploding our economy. At least that's my take on it.

107 turn  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:06:35am

re: #69 itellu3times

Well yes, but in all fairness, why not?

Well I agree paying is paying regardless of where the money is budgeted, but it could be used as an accounting trick to make it appear he has reduced spending instead of the wind down of the wars as being responsible. I'm still searching for the actual vs CBO estimates ...

108 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:06:41am

re: #98 pink freud

New from politico on the 0-meeting:

"In this moment of national economic crisis, the top four questions under the heading of “Financial security” concerned marijuana; on the budget, people voted up questions about marijuana to positions 1-4; marijuana was in the first and third positions under “jobs”; people boosted a plug for legalizing marijuana to No. 2 under “health care reform.” And questions about decriminalizing pot occupied spots 1 and 2 under “green jobs and energy.”

Ok, NOW we know what these voters care about.

"Green jobs" = growing and harvesting marijuana.

109 Kragar  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:06:55am

re: #99 Sharmuta

Let's try a more positive spin on that. How about:

When Obama says he wants to bankrupt the US (even if he doesn't realize that this is what he is doing), I hope the American people wake up and refuse to go quietly into that commie red sunset.

Kragaristan's future is looking brighter every day. I plan to have Hillary declare the US is the cause of all our problems and offer a substantial foreign aid package to assist us thru these trying times.

110 jcm  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:07:12am

I inherited the deficit!

/TOTUS

111 simonml  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:07:12am

re: #79 kynna

None of the Obamabots I know would look at this chart and say anything but, "well, he needs to create this much debt because of everything George Bush did."

Ask them for specifics and they call you names.

I think what they are doing is intentionally making up for when Bush didn't spend all this money during his two terms.

Keep in mind the tax hike he'll force on this country to make up for this debt will further increase that same debt. Raising taxes lowers revenues. Its a fact

112 pink freud  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:07:18am

re: #104 godfrey

I'm often too polite, and I'm sure many lizards think I'm way too polite, but the only thing to say about this graph and the reality it depicts is that -- not to put too fine a point on it --- Obama and his pals are assholes.

THAT DOES IT YOUNG MAN! You sit right there while I fetch the soap!

113 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:07:19am

re: #104 godfrey

I'm often too polite, and I'm sure many lizards think I'm way too polite, but the only thing to say about this graph and the reality it depicts is that -- not to put too fine a point on it --- Obama and his pals are assholes.

Yes- that was still rather polite. I think they're fucking commie pricks who can kiss my berry blue ass.

114 tfc3rid  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:07:34am

re: #103 Leonidas Hoplite

Well, it is collecting a lot less following the massive layoffs of the past several months.

I wonder what the unemployment projection is for social security. Whatever it is, with all this hopeychangeysocialism I bet the assumption is too low.

There is a problem with Social Security? Who woulda known that? Amazing that we've tried to do something about saving it...

115 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:07:36am

Bush spent like a drunken sailor?

/must be Fleet Week in Washington now

116 soxfan4life  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:07:42am

re: #99 Sharmuta

Let's try a more positive spin on that. How about:

When Obama says he wants to bankrupt the US (even if he doesn't realize that this is what he is doing), I hope the American people wake up and refuse to go quietly into that commie red sunset.

re: #104 godfrey

I'm often too polite, and I'm sure many lizards think I'm way too polite, but the only thing to say about this graph and the reality it depicts is that -- not to put too fine a point on it --- Obama and his pals are assholes.


I don't remeber who said it, but it sums up 0bama perfectly, if only his mother had been a little more pro choice.

117 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:07:51am

re: #108 Ward Cleaver

"Green jobs" = growing and harvesting marijuana.

So THAT'S what that means.

118 alegrias  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:07:51am

re: #83 debutaunt

...and grandchildren and great grandchildren...

* * **
Someone wrote:

The moving finger writes
and having writ, moves on
Nor all your piety and tears
can change a word of it.

We MUST ACT, not cry & whine & weep, to reverse Obama's bad policies NOW.

Nip them in the bud NOW.

Help your politicians get a backbone to support BETTER policies you can support.

119 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:08:08am

re: #100 NukeAtomrod

You obviously hate America.

/ I'm about ready to move Reagan's remains to the Pet Sematary.

So we'll get a Zombie Reagan stalking the land?

120 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:08:09am

re: #98 pink freud

New from politico on the 0-meeting:

"In this moment of national economic crisis, the top four questions under the heading of “Financial security” concerned marijuana; on the budget, people voted up questions about marijuana to positions 1-4; marijuana was in the first and third positions under “jobs”; people boosted a plug for legalizing marijuana to No. 2 under “health care reform.” And questions about decriminalizing pot occupied spots 1 and 2 under “green jobs and energy.”

Ok, NOW we know what these voters care about.

Obviously, the questions and voting were done by people getting stoned in their parents' basement.
The rest of us were working (or posting on LGF when we're supposed to be working)

121 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:08:41am

re: #115 Killian Bundy

Bush spent like a drunken sailor?

/must be Fleet Week in Washington now

I think you need to rearange that sentence

122 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:09:09am

re: #116 soxfan4life

I don't remeber who said it, but it sums up 0bama perfectly, if only his mother had been a little more pro choice.

OUCH!

123 FloridaAnole  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:09:12am

That's OK - these deficits won't be a problem -- because Obama and his apparatichiki are so SMART. Lenin couldn't make it work, Stalin couldn't make it work, Mao couldn't make it work, Castro couldn't make it work, but by damn, our New Intelligentsia are smarter than anybody, and they can make it work! Yep, we're going to have a new People's Paradise; well, for some people, anyhow. As they say (qua Khruschev) - we've buried you!

124 subsailor68  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:09:14am

Mr. President,

In case nobody has filled you in, there are only three ways you'll be able to generate the revenue to cover this insanity:

1. Raise taxes.
2. Borrow the money (think treasury securities)
3. Print money.

Before you go "Oh cool!", you might want to think a minute:

Borrow money. Oops, the auctions aren't going so well are they? Even China's getting nervous.

Print money. Oops, that'll kick in inflation. And, if the unemployment numbers continue to rise - well, the combination is called stagflation. Ask your pal Jimmy Carter how that all worked out for him.

Oh yeah, the tax thing. The American people are starting to figure out they can't continue to pay for this kind of nonsense. (Check the numbers on your own blog comments, if ya don't believe me.)

Here's an idea for you: KNOCK IT OFF!

125 NukeAtomrod  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:09:23am

re: #119 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So we'll get a Zombie Reagan stalking the land?

A homicidal zombie Reagan would be a great improvement over what we have now.

126 badger1970  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:09:31am

Powerline had this chart posted on Tuesday, the day after zero's blah fest. I see the red color bleeding downward. Of course zero's numbers are sooo much better.

127 pink freud  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:09:32am

re: #117 Sharmuta

Nice post on the tax tables. Glad to see it's getting passed around. It needs to be seen.

128 JohnnyReb  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:09:43am

re: #111 simonml

I think what they are doing is intentionally making up for when Bush didn't spend all this money during his two terms.

Keep in mind the tax hike he'll force on this country to make up for this debt will further increase that same debt. Raising taxes lowers revenues. Its a fact

The tax hikes that this mess needs to prevent hyperinflation will completely destroy the middle and most of the upper class.

129 tfc3rid  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:10:13am

re: #128 JohnnyReb

The tax hikes that this mess needs to prevent hyperinflation will completely destroy the middle and most of the upper class.

Isn't that the point?

130 simonml  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:10:21am

re: #116 soxfan4life

Oh come on. That's a little inappropriate.

131 Right Brain  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:10:25am

All of this is contingent upon the ability to sell IOU's on the open market; both Britain and Germany had debt auctions in the past few months that failed, leaving them unable to continue living beyond their means. I have no idea what those two countries are to do now, their only solution is to raise the interest rate that they will pay, which of course compounds the problem.

President Obama, and to an extent Pres. Bush before him, don't seem to get it. Money is not guaranteed, its acquired in the open markets, and those markets recently refused to loan any more money to two similar countries, eventually it will happen here.

And then what?

132 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:10:37am

re: #119 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So we'll get a Zombie Reagan stalking the land?

No, zombies are dull-witted. The Pet Sematary produces a reanimated but very intelligent corpse, that is turned to evil by a "manitou". Don't you read the classics?

/

133 pink freud  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:10:42am

re: #120 Kosh's Shadow

Obviously, the questions and voting were done by people getting stoned in their parents' basement.
The rest of us were working (or posting on LGF when we're supposed to be working)

From the response posts (yahoo boards, etc), seems like lots out there are paying attention.

134 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:10:43am

re: #87 Dustyvet

YMA

Any news in Madame?

Hiya, {Dustyvet}!
She is definitely on the mend - not out of the woods by any means, but she started barking, tail is up and wagging, and she's eating.
She is still very sleepy - but right now she's sitting next to me, keeping an eye out for intruder cats who may walk across the wall at the back of the garden - thats a distance of about 50 feet!
She's trying so hard not to fall asleep while on cat-watch, bless her!

135 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:11:05am

re: #125 NukeAtomrod

A homicidal zombie Reagan would be a great improvement over what we have now.

Shoot, I'd take a robot with Nixon's head on it right about now*.

*Futurama reference.

136 Kragar  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:11:10am

re: #125 NukeAtomrod

A homicidal zombie Reagan would be a great improvement over what we have now.

Can we build a giant cybernetic Nixon as well?

137 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:11:16am

re: #129 tfc3rid

Isn't that the point?

Yep.

138 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:11:23am

re: #132 Occasional Reader

No, zombies are dull-witted. The Pet Sematary produces a reanimated but very intelligent corpse, that is turned to evil by a "manitou". Don't you read the classics?

/

Our own zombie being the exception, of course.

139 Catttt  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:11:24am

There have been no layoffs at my company - in the financial industry, mind you - because we have NO DEBT and have been doing all kinds of cost cutting things, big and small, for A YEAR - to avoid layoffs. My company learned in 2000-1 that layoffs cost more than they save, in the long run, and PLANNED AHEAD.

I personally have NO DEBT - not even secured debt.

WHY WHY WHY should I fork over my hard-earned money to pay for a government that FORCED companies to make loans to people who are deadbeats to buy houses that were too expensive for them?

WHY should I pay taxes to a government that wants to spend my money on things like abortions in foreign countries and an Obama Youth Program I think is an awful idea and boondoggles for some congressman's family to pretend to have a company for a couple of years?

/steam coming out my pointy ears.

140 Irene NYC  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:11:33am

Sometimes I wish I had a sock puppet so that I could say what I really think about Obama.

141 AmeriDan  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:11:34am

re: #128 JohnnyReb

The tax hikes that this mess needs to prevent hyperinflation will completely destroy the middle and most of the upper class.

That appears to be the objective.

142 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:11:50am

re: #127 pink freud

Thanks for linking it last night. I'll be sending that along to a few people too.

143 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:11:55am

re: #94 Karmapolice

[Link: buzz.yahoo.com...]

Thanks - its really instructive!
Especially the Obamaton comments, teeheehee!

144 alegrias  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:11:59am

re: #115 Killian Bundy

Bush spent like a drunken sailor?

/must be Fleet Week in Washington now

* * * *
Obama's spending like Stalinists drank confiscated vodka.

145 Athos  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:12:15am

The Heritage Foundation has some additional information that accompanies their post on this graph...

:

-President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008. President Obama would add another $1 trillion.

-President Bush began a string of expensive finan­cial bailouts. President Obama is accelerating that course.

-President Bush created a Medicare drug entitle­ment that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade. President Obama has proposed a $634 billion down payment on a new govern­ment health care fund.

-President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation. Presi­dent Obama would double it.

-President Bush became the first President to spend 3 percent of GDP on federal antipoverty programs. President Obama has already in­creased this spending by 20 percent.

-President Bush tilted the income tax burden more toward upper-income taxpayers. President Obama would continue that trend.

-President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt), President Obama’s budget would add $4.9 trillion in public debt from the beginning of 2010 through 2016.

The left is already starting to mobilize to 'discredit' the graph - claiming that all of the Bush Iraq / GWOT expenditures were 'off budget' and therefore not included - that the huge leap from FY 08 to FY 09 is inaccurate because Bush TARP expenditures are included in FY09 - but that is what it is, and the current Administration is clearly excessively adding to it ($800B Porkulus etc). I think this graphic, and the data behind it in this report will resonate with middle America.

Middle America will look at this, then at their own personal and business budgets, and know that they cannot operate in this manner - and neither should the US Government.

146 Dustyvet  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:12:16am

Obama on Your Shoulder

Youtube Video
147 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:12:19am

re: #136 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Can we build a giant cybernetic Nixon as well?

Only if we make sure there is no Kissinger to go with it.

148 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:12:20am

re: #131 Right Brain

eventually it will happen here.

And rather ironically, the only thing that will make T bills continue to look like a "safe haven" is if the rest of the world is even more in the shitter.

So when it comes right down to it, Obama's plan depends on a continued global recession.

149 lobo91  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:12:57am

re: #107 turn

Well I agree paying is paying regardless of where the money is budgeted, but it could be used as an accounting trick to make it appear he has reduced spending instead of the wind down of the wars as being responsible. I'm still searching for the actual vs CBO estimates ...

It is an accounting trick.

It's not that he included the cost of the war in his budget projections, which is fine. It's that he included a projection of spending the same amount as we did last year in the budget for every year for the next decade.

Nobody believes that we're still going to have 140,000 troops in Iraq in 2019.

Basically, what he's done is the equivalent of my saying "I'm going to buy a new Cadillac every year for the next decade," and then "changing my mind," thus claiming that I've "saved" $50,000 a year.

150 Athos  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:13:14am

re: #34 Sharmuta

I also stuck this in my favorites. I plan to use this a lot.

By the way- where's avanti?

My Clue-by-Four is ready and waiting....../evil laugh

151 Dustyvet  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:13:18am

re: #134 yma o hyd

Hiya, {Dustyvet}!
She is definitely on the mend - not out of the woods by any means, but she started barking, tail is up and wagging, and she's eating.
She is still very sleepy - but right now she's sitting next to me, keeping an eye out for intruder cats who may walk across the wall at the back of the garden - thats a distance of about 50 feet!
She's trying so hard not to fall asleep while on cat-watch, bless her!

Please give her an ear itch and a tummy rub from me and Tiger...:)

152 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:13:23am

re: #136 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Can we build a giant cybernetic Nixon as well?

Thank you for your question, Clem.

/off to lunch

153 NukeAtomrod  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:13:29am

re: #147 Kosh's Shadow

Only if we make sure there is no Kissinger to go with it.

Don't worry. He's working for Dr. Venture these days.

154 Irene NYC  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:13:42am

re: #139 Catttt

We hear you Catttt. And agree.

155 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:13:44am

re: #136 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Can we build a giant cybernetic Nixon as well?

GMTA (see my #135).

156 doppelganglander  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:13:55am

re: #134 yma o hyd

Hi, yma! Glad Madame is improving. Our Nina has an appointment with the veterinary ophthalmologist for next Tuesday. She's very lethargic, but she is eating and drinking. It's so sad to see her like this.

157 Randall Gross  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:14:28am

Now this is a good talking point, a great message of the day. Don't say you want Obama to fail (even if you do)... instead show everyone how he is failing.

158 simonml  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:14:30am

re: #145 Athos

The Heritage Foundation has some additional information that accompanies their post on this graph...

The left is already starting to mobilize to 'discredit' the graph - claiming that all of the Bush Iraq / GWOT expenditures were 'off budget' and therefore not included - that the huge leap from FY 08 to FY 09 is inaccurate because Bush TARP expenditures are included in FY09 - but that is what it is, and the current Administration is clearly excessively adding to it ($800B Porkulus etc). I think this graphic, and the data behind it in this report will resonate with middle America.

Middle America will look at this, then at their own personal and business budgets, and know that they cannot operate in this manner - and neither should the US Government.

The porkulus bill was necessary...

to get all the Dems reelected.

159 alegrias  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:14:35am

re: #136 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Can we build a giant cybernetic Nixon as well?

* * *
Nixon unfortunately fell for the argument that "Wage and Price" controls would work.

Fortunately Reagan was smarter in the economics department.

160 Ceemack  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:14:37am

A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money.

It doesn't matter whether or not Rush Limbaugh wants Obama to fail, because he's already a failure.

161 Karmapolice  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:14:44am

re: #143 yma o hyd

Thanks - its really instructive!
Especially the Obamaton comments, teeheehee!

I think their responses are hilarious. They use no logic, they forget history, and they're clearly startled that fewer and fewer people see their messiah as the solution.

162 AMER1CAN  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:14:50am

hmm, me sees the change, but one must ask the great obama if he knows it's going in the wrong way.

163 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:15:16am

The Adventures of Robot Nixon & Zombie Reagan. Sounds like a great comic book.

164 Kragar  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:15:36am

re: #147 Kosh's Shadow

Only if we make sure there is no Kissinger to go with it.

I was thinking of Kissinger on a retractable chain in place of a left fist that could be used as a wrecking ball, but I'm willing to compromise

165 godfrey  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:15:42am

Notice the down spikes start at the end of '01, which as we all know is around 9/11. The US economy took fright. Then the battle in Iraq started in '03, which got pretty expensive.

And yet, DESPITE all those major setbacks, W's administration edged back toward a balanced budget until, IIRC, Dems regained control of spending.

Then came the sharp down-spike in '08, which Congress and Obama have now spiked into the basement, dragging us all down with it.

166 tfc3rid  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:16:28am

re: #165 godfrey

Dragged into the basement, or hell, whatever you prefer....

167 KenJen  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:16:58am

Obamas aunt is facing deportation and his brother in Kenya is ill-maybe with cholera. I wonder what he's doing to help them.

168 Guanxi88  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:17:10am

re: #136 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Can we build a giant cybernetic Nixon as well?

People of Earth! Put down your crack pipes and beer bongs and listen to me!

169 jimc  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:17:31am

Everyone who voted for Barry should have to apologize publicly....How many times were the lunatic left complaining about how much the Iraq war cost? Where are these pukes now?

170 Right Brain  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:17:43am

re: #148 Occasional Reader


Germany's external debt is presently 155% of its GDP
Ireland is 900%
France is at 210%
United Kingdom is at 456% !

The USA by comparison is at 84%.

China btw is at 5%.

171 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:17:48am

re: #168 Guanxi88

People of Earth! Put down your crack pipes and beer bongs and listen to me!

I'm willing to meet you hippies half-way on this!

172 alegrias  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:17:49am

re: #157 Thanos

Now this is a good talking point, a great message of the day. Don't say you want Obama to fail (even if you do)... instead show everyone how he is failing.

* * **
Thank you, Charles has made it abundantly clear, blogging for Obama to fail is STUPID, and Charles won't stand it on his blog.

We can & must offer better arguments to turn this ship of state in the right direction.

173 Athos  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:18:32am

re: #52 vxbush

But this same image is at the Heritage Foundation. So who really created the image?

The WaPo created it and Heritage used it in their blog post.....the post credits WaPo as the creator.

174 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:18:55am

Hey, let's more than double the national debt over ten years and accrue over a trillion dollars in annual interest payments, good thinking!

/how long before the Chinese stop paying for it?

175 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:18:58am

re: #151 Dustyvet

Please give her an ear itch and a tummy rub from me and Tiger...:)

Will do - with pleasure!

176 alegrias  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:18:58am

re: #160 Ceemack

A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money.

It doesn't matter whether or not Rush Limbaugh wants Obama to fail, because he's already a failure.

* * **
Billions of people don't think Obama's ideas are going to fail, despite the evidence.

We HAVE to do a better job explaining WHY these ideas are NOT HELPFUL.

177 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:19:00am

I gotta get some work done. I'm hitting that "new comments" button like a monkey in a crack experiment.

178 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:19:23am
179 Catttt  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:19:35am

re: #134 yma o hyd

Reminded me of this, for some reason:

Tabby cat terror for black bear

A black bear got more than it bargained for after straying into a family garden in the US state of New Jersey.

The unwelcome intruder was forced up a tree - twice - by the family pet, a tabby cat called Jack.

The terrified bear was only able to make its escape when owner Donna Dickey called the hissing cat into the house.

180 simonml  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:19:37am

re: #167 KenJen

Obamas aunt is facing deportation and his brother in Kenya is ill-maybe with cholera. I wonder what he's doing to help them.

He's screwed either way in those situations. Maybe we shouldn't make such a big deal out of his extended family's problems.

181 subsailor68  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:20:38am

re: #134 yma o hyd

Hi yma! It's nice to hear some good news on the pup!

On the subject of dogs (I'm not a vet by the way), my vet told me something very interesting. Falstaff had heartworms, and another vet had recommended the standard treatment (which as I'm sure you know is brutal). I switched vets, since Falstaff was already a relatively old dog, and I didn't want to put him through it.

The new vet told me that there was a shift in thinking about this. She recommended putting Falstaff on the heartworm treatment again - even though he had them. The new thinking is that there is a relatively short life span in the adult heartworms. IOW, they die off naturally. The problem is the spawning of new worms. The theory is that putting the dog back on the standard heartworm meds won't take out the adult worms, but do kill the new ones. After a certain period of time, the dog is heart-worm free again.

Not sure at this point where the science it, but it sure seems to be something worthwhile to ask the vet about if folks have the problem.

182 JohnnyReb  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:20:45am

re: #174 Killian Bundy

Hey, let's more than double the national debt over ten years and accrue over a trillion dollars in annual interest payments, good thinking!

/how long before the Chinese stop paying for it?

Not very long from what they are saying lately. And there is no on, and I do mean no one left to buy it up if they quit.

183 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:20:45am

re: #176 alegrias

* * **
Billions of people don't think Obama's ideas are going to fail, despite the evidence.

We HAVE to do a better job explaining WHY these ideas are NOT HELPFUL.


That requires people to read up on history. They'd rather watch drivel like American Idol and Survivor. Just sayin'.

184 FloridaAnole  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:20:52am

And another thing -- shouldn't the deficits on the right hand side be colored BLUE? I mean, since the Dems/MSM (terrified that the populace would associate them with Socialists) hijacked conservative True Blue a decade or so ago, shouldn't they be showing their stolen true colors? Or is the WaPo hoping that readers will assume that this is a Republican "Red State" deficit? Or are they just reflecting standard accounting notation (i.e.) negative numbers/deficits are shown "in the red."
//

185 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:21:00am

This spending is needed to save us.
/dems

When it's too late, this will be said to Obama

186 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:21:37am

re: #156 doppelganglander

Hi, yma! Glad Madame is improving. Our Nina has an appointment with the veterinary ophthalmologist for next Tuesday. She's very lethargic, but she is eating and drinking. It's so sad to see her like this.

Hugs all round to you all, Nina included!
As long as she is eating and drinking, she is basically ok within ehrself, except for that growth. she is probably lethargic, or withdrawn, because its painful, poor little mite!
Prayers to give yo all strength to get through the coming four days, and that appointment!

187 tomg51spence  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:22:56am

So the graph includes:
Optimistic growth
Low inflation
Excludes:
Social security shortfall
Cost of leaving iraq
Cost of healthcare
Any coverage of true institution failures?
Anything going wrong (like failure to auction debt)

Seems President Obama is climbing as high as he can before the fall.

188 Guanxi88  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:22:59am

re: #176 alegrias

* * **

We HAVE to do a better job explaining WHY these ideas are NOT HELPFUL.

"not helpful" - what, you in the State Department or something?

189 FrogMarch  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:23:08am

obama is going to cut it in half! oh boy! hope and change!

190 alegrias  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:23:19am

re: #169 jimc

Everyone who voted for Barry should have to apologize publicly....How many times were the lunatic left complaining about how much the Iraq war cost? Where are these pukes now?

* * **
That's a communist idea, making people CONFESS PUBLICLY.

Reagan voted for FDR 4 times and was a democrat, until he learned first hand how leftists and union thugs really operated.

We MUST help those who are high on leftism, to accept FACTS instead of fiction, but kindly.

191 FloridaAnole  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:23:25am

re: #140 Irene NYC

Sometimes I wish I had a sock puppet so that I could say what I really think about Obama.

Me too -- except my sock puppet would get itself banned from LGF in record time.

192 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:23:32am

re: #170 Right Brain

Germany's external debt is presently 155% of its GDP
Ireland is 900%
France is at 210%
United Kingdom is at 456% !

The USA by comparison is at 84%.

China btw is at 5%.

Well, PB0 better catch up with Ireland then, hadn't he!

////////////////

193 KenJen  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:23:55am

re: #180 simonml

Im not making a big deal out of it. Just curious. Cute dog on avatar. What breed?

194 jcm  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:24:28am

re: #165 godfrey

Notice the down spikes start at the end of '01, which as we all know is around 9/11. The US economy took fright. Then the battle in Iraq started in '03, which got pretty expensive.

And yet, DESPITE all those major setbacks, W's administration edged back toward a balanced budget until, IIRC, Dems regained control of spending.

Then came the sharp down-spike in '08, which Congress and Obama have now spiked into the basement, dragging us all down with it.

The recession of '01 actually began in Q3 '00 IIRC, Clinton and Co. fudged the data to help Algore in the election. The tech bubble burst on Mar. 10, '00, then just as that was settling out was 9/11. The economy took a double whammy.

GWB and the congress did not help by the spending.

The current financial is not a natural cycle, it was caused by government tweaking the housing markets. Now the "solution" proposed by the Administration and Congress is to tweak the entire economy.

A recipe for disaster.

195 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:24:46am

re: #179 Catttt

Reminded me of this, for some reason:

Tabby cat terror for black bear

Awww!

Love it!

196 That's Mr. President to you  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:25:02am

I think this post presents an excellent opportunity to discuss the three main thrusts of what my plan was designed to do:

(1) Create more union jobs

See all of that "red ink"? Well it turns out that making "red ink" employs a lot of union members. More so than making black ink. When I discovered this fact, I got on my BlackBerry and emailed all of my staff - "I want Red Ink everywhere!" Clearly, this has been carried out.

(2) Create an opportunity to blame Republicans

Rahm likes to say "Don't waste a good crisis." Well I like to say "Why let a good crisis end?" I get to say things like "we inherited this" and "George Bush ran up bigger deficits than anyone" and so forth. Clearly, we can ride this one for several election cycles.

(3) Destroy wealth as opposed to just redistributing it

As many have mentioned here before, wealth distribution efforts have almost always fallen short in industrialized economies. They lead to lower productivity and burden the economy with a larger welfare state. Well I was sent to Washington for Change. I can't think of a more novel and innovative approach to wealth distribution that simply destroying wealth. Tax the crap out of producers while radically expanding the ruling public sector and use every opportunity and resource of the government to demonize wealth creation as greed, selfishness, risky and unpatriotic.

197 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:25:08am
198 Perplexed  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:25:33am

Well, when our money is as worthless as Zimbabwe's it will hurt the rich as well. The good thing is that we could pay our mortgage off with pocket change. Every time the budget deficit is brought up DA ONE spouts off with "we inherited this deficit" while failing to acknowledge that his actions increase that deficit by at least 1-2 orders of magnitude.

He and the 'rats should have problems the next election cycle, but with voter fraud rampant (ACORN) there might be no time left to deal with problems. Couple this to the gross violations of the US Constitution and we have some serious issues.

199 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:25:52am

re: #197 Iron Fist

And we'll get the inflation anyway. I don't see how hyperinflation can be avoided at this rate. I don't know whether to pay off my credit cards or max them out (Shit or go blind? Shit or go blind? Shit or go blind? Shit or go blind?)

:-)

Payoff your credit cards and use the extra cash flow to buy gold.

200 simonml  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:25:53am

re: #193 KenJen

Im not making a big deal out of it. Just curious. Cute dog on avatar. What breed?

Half Chihuahua half Pomeranian. I nicknamed that the "yippiest breed ever."

201 Guanxi88  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:26:21am

re: #170 Right Brain

Germany's external debt is presently 155% of its GDP
Ireland is 900%
France is at 210%
United Kingdom is at 456% !

The USA by comparison is at 84%.

China btw is at 5%.

So, is this how Barry plans to restore us to a world-leadership position?

202 Athos  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:26:26am

re: #165 godfrey

Notice the down spikes start at the end of '01, which as we all know is around 9/11. The US economy took fright. Then the battle in Iraq started in '03, which got pretty expensive.

And yet, DESPITE all those major setbacks, W's administration edged back toward a balanced budget until, IIRC, Dems regained control of spending.

Then came the sharp down-spike in '08, which Congress and Obama have now spiked into the basement, dragging us all down with it.

Excellent points. VDH, in his Pajamas Media blog hits this homerun -

Despite his stalwart efforts to keep us safe for seven years after 9/11 (and we will in time come to appreciate the magnitude of his Trumanesque achievement), had Bush left something akin to a balanced budget, it would have been far easier now to have convinced the public of the pernicious legacies of the far larger Obama deficits (remember the new Orwellian subtext, “We must borrow and spend in order to save and cut”). What are conservatives to say of Obama’s $1.7 trillion annual deficit? “My God in Heaven, that rascal trumped our $500 billion shortfall three-times over!”

The odd thing is that despite 9/11, Katrina, Iraq, and the tax cuts, had Bush just kept discretionary domestic spending at the rate of inflation, we would have been near budget surpluses by 2005. By January 2007 when Bush had lost the Congress and wished to repent and reform, the game was lost and there was no chance of financial sobriety. Now, our best and brightest suggest that taxing and spending, and printing and borrowing money will lead to financial stability, as if it has in the past in prewar Germany, present -day Zimbabwe or 20th-century Argentina—or 1979 America.

California, once again is a canary in the coal mine - over the last 6 years, spending increased 40% while revenues increased 25%. If California increased its spending at the rate of inflation, then it would not be in the current fiscal crisis.

203 Perplexed  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:26:40am

re: #167 KenJen

Obamas aunt is facing deportation and his brother in Kenya is ill-maybe with cholera. I wonder what he's doing to help them.

NOTHING. They can't vote for him.

204 Athos  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:28:45am

re: #194 jcm

I wish I could give your comment a dozen updings! Well said!

205 alegrias  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:29:17am

re: #183 Leonidas Hoplite

That requires people to read up on history. They'd rather watch drivel like American Idol and Survivor. Just sayin'.

* * **
I disagree with your premise. One could argue it's a better use of your time to watch American Idol & survivor than to suffer through Obama's press conferences.

Please give the American people the benefit of the doubt. Plenty of former FDR democrats became Reagan supporters because Reagan had a higher opinion of Americans and their abilities, than the democrats.

We can appeal to people's higher values for self-determination regardless of their education level.

206 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:29:37am

re: #181 subsailor68

Hiya - thats really interesting!

Thankfully - heartworms are not at all common in the UK - they thrive in warmer climates.
They have only been seen here occasionally, since we got this 'Pet Passport', which allows, under great restrictions, dogs to go on holidays with their owners - to Spain and such countries. Thats where they get infected.

I have to say that most vets here are on top of their science, even the older ones - and while tis expensive, they do treat the animals better and faster and with more consideration than quite a few human doctors treat their human patients ...

207 alegrias  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:30:23am

re: #188 Guanxi88

"not helpful" - what, you in the State Department or something?

* * **
Rummy Rumsfeld always said that--it's understatement, get it?

208 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:30:25am

re: #205 alegrias

* * **
I disagree with your premise. One could argue it's a better use of your time to watch American Idol & survivor than to suffer through Obama's press conferences.

Please give the American people the benefit of the doubt. Plenty of former FDR democrats became Reagan supporters because Reagan had a higher opinion of Americans and their abilities, than the democrats.

We can appeal to people's higher values for self-determination regardless of their education level.

Fair points, thank you.

209 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:30:40am
210 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:30:50am

re: #202 Athos

California, once again is a canary in the coal mine - over the last 6 years, spending increased 40% while revenues increased 25%. If California increased its spending at the rate of inflation, simply decreased its democrats then it would not be in the current fiscal crisis.

211 jcm  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:32:23am

re: #196 That's Mr. President to you

For you Mr. President.

212 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:32:27am
213 tutor turtle  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:32:44am

Looking at that graph, I feel like I've been tossed out of an airplane, sans parachute... And my "intelligent" friends still can't see past the unicorns. All long the lines of, G*d helps those who help themselves...
I read an article by Ann Coulter (two years ago?) after 0-Bummer was swept, mysteriously unopposed, into his congressional seat, and seemed to be poised for the presidential run; she urged everyone to read Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" to understand his play book. Based on the fact when BHO taught a community organizing class at U Chicago, there is a picture of him, in the classroom, with Alinsky's talking points up on the black board. This photo appeared on a BHO campaign flyer. Although it may seem akin to closing the barn door after the horses are loose, I still think it's worth a read to understand the method to his insanity, maybe even head off the worst that is yet to come. Gen. George Patten read Rommel's book after some devastating losses, and used it to his advantage in the African campaign, why not get some inside baseball on this Marxist? What could it hurt?

214 jimc  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:33:26am

re: #190 alegrias

* * **
That's a communist idea, making people CONFESS PUBLICLY.

Reagan voted for FDR 4 times and was a democrat, until he learned first hand how leftists and union thugs really operated.

We MUST help those who are high on leftism, to accept FACTS instead of fiction, but kindly.

I didn't say make them, the should have to as in being compelled by their own guilt...

215 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:33:32am

re: #209 Iron Fist

Punished with a baby! You know, sometimes I don't think Obama really thinks very much about what he is saying. By his own statements he seems to be saying that he should have been aborted. I don't believe he has thought his position through to that point, though.

Imagine -

Youtube Video
216 godfrey  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:33:34am

re: #213 tutor turtle

I've read it. It's definitely O's playbook. Emmanuel's, too.

217 alegrias  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:34:01am

re: #194 jcm

The recession of '01 actually began in Q3 '00 IIRC, Clinton and Co. fudged the data to help Algore in the election. The tech bubble burst on Mar. 10, '00, then just as that was settling out was 9/11. The economy took a double whammy.

GWB and the congress did not help by the spending.

The current financial is not a natural cycle, it was caused by government tweaking the housing markets. Now the "solution" proposed by the Administration and Congress is to tweak the entire economy.

A recipe for disaster.

* * * *
President Bush had to spend on the War on Terror, plus to replenish the military which Clinton pruned to spend as "Peace Dividend".

It's true Bush didn't veto more wasteful spending, but he rightly spent his capital trying to win the wars that started on his watch, and defending our country.

218 realwest  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:35:41am

re: #98 pink freud
Y'all should notice that Politico also has a story up about the GOP's proposed "positive" alternate budget proposals: [Link: www.politico.com...]

219 formercorpsman  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:35:59am

Thank you Charles, (sincerely) for giving this face time. For all of the disagreements people might have over how far right, how far center, how far left, what issues the sides must champion, this is an issue that really has no party affiliation if we are to examine it in the most honest of terms.

Along side terrorists with WMD capability, this is just as much a dire threat to our Republic as any. It enslaves our future generations to the greed, and incompetence of our past.

This is truly scary stuff.

Although I take him with a grain of salt, Dick Morris wrote an article a couple of months ago, as it relates to this massive debt. It was an interesting read. I will try to look it up if I have time, it seems to dovetail perfectly with what you have here.

220 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:36:08am
221 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:43:01am

As a reminder, this graph needs to be shown everyday.

222 jcm  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:48:07am

re: #217 alegrias

* * * *
President Bush had to spend on the War on Terror, plus to replenish the military which Clinton pruned to spend as "Peace Dividend".

It's true Bush didn't veto more wasteful spending, but he rightly spent his capital trying to win the wars that started on his watch, and defending our country.

Very, true. I should have clarified... Domestic Spending.

223 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:48:11am

re: #36 MandyManners

I hope everyone who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn't conservative enough is fucking happy now.

Classic Karma Gold.

What frightens me about the stimulus money and bailout money is that no one seems to know where it is going. I fear instead of building infrastructure and providing services the money is really going for bad debt, political favors and federal administrivia. Nothing this administration has said or done dispels that fear.

Georgia's constitution requires a balanced budget and we're practicing good old fashioned belt tightening. Too bad congress has repeatedly declined to show that kind of self discipline.

224 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 10:52:39am

That chart is pretty bad, but it's even worse when you start calculating the culmulative effect of all that debt. Obama is more than doubling it in his first year (60 days!). He then goes on to double it again. He also has no problem running higher debt than Bush did at any part during Bush's term in office.

Yet Obama says that the problem is inherited.

Well, in a manner of speaking, it is.

Politicians have inherited this belief that they can spend money with no regard for the fiscal impact it has down the line. They are fiscally irresponsible and no one wants to deal with the repercussions.

225 tomg51spence  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 11:10:42am

Congress will need to figure out how to cancel existing programs in order to right the budget in the future.

Is there any precedent?

226 songbird  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 11:27:51am

re: #2 Sharmuta

I want to protest!

Las Cruces, New Mexico Tax Day Tea Party!
On Facebook

On the national Tax Day Tea Party Web Site

227 FrogMarch  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 11:38:46am

*burp*

228 frater eosphoros  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 11:41:24am

Unicorns never EPIC FAIL!

229 Dasher  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 11:44:55am

This chart is a little different. It is the sequential federal debt increase per fiscal year. The deficit number excludes some times like SS surpluses so that the numbers look better.

Federal Debt increase by year

230 Dasher  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 11:49:15am

re: #225 tomg51spence

Congress will need to figure out how to cancel existing programs in order to right the budget in the future.

Is there any precedent?

The only program to ever be actually cut is defense.

231 A.W.  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 11:50:43am

re: #99 Sharmuta

All i can say is i just keep wishing this was all a nightmare and i was about to wake up. I am seriously at the "is he screwing up on purpose?" stage. I am continually stunned at how bad he is at his job. this makes me miss the good old days of clinton's early days in office. Say what you will about clinton, but he had some administrative talent.

Guys, seriously, I hope you realize this is what happens when you elect a man who has never run anything more than a campaign. mccain was mainly a senator, too, but at least he led a squadron. But God, i wish we were wise enough to have elected Rudy Guiliani. He wouldn't have taken the oath of office on the bible, but on the severed head of Osama bin Laden.

232 RaiderDan  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 11:52:55am

I noticed the Washington Post closed the article for comments?

Hmmm. Why in the WORLD would they do that?

233 RaiderDan  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 11:55:02am

And if nobody else said it already.

This graphic is RACIST!

234 tomg51spence  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 12:13:35pm
re: #230 Dasher

The only program to ever be actually cut is defense.

I was afraid of that. Cut the federal governments biggest responsibility.

Perhaps the new health care, green energy, and so on can be touted and written as needed for national defense, then have defense contractors enact them - Ratheon windmills and healthcare equipment, GE electric cars and MRIs, Halliburton tents and food for the displaced.

Then we can cut defense spending down the road.

235 Dreader1962  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 12:13:44pm

Note that in 2012, even the White House 'rosy' estimate shows a larger deficit than Bush's worst deficit in 2008.

It gets even worse the farther you go forward, into 2019. This is supposed to be CHANGE? How is Obama different from that nasty ol' Bush when it comes to fiscal responsibility?

236 tomg51spence  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 12:28:32pm

Gored by a Unicorn

237 Dasher  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 12:42:58pm

re: #235 Dreader1962

Note that in 2012, even the White House 'rosy' estimate shows a larger deficit than Bush's worst deficit in 2008.

It gets even worse the farther you go forward, into 2019. This is supposed to be CHANGE? How is Obama different from that nasty ol' Bush when it comes to fiscal responsibility?

Bush was a piker.. Obama deficits will exceed those of the sum of all 43 presidents who preceded him combined.

238 Killer Tomato  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 12:50:49pm

re: #226 songbird

I want to protest!

Las Cruces, New Mexico Tax Day Tea Party!
On Facebook

On the national Tax Day Tea Party Web Site

I went on the site - I copied the logo onto a blank 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper and included the website address. Underneath that I listed the event locations and times for 3 of the states in this area (MA, RI, NH). I'm printing a bunch of these out and will be posting them on the community bulletin boards of local grocery stores, etc., and handing them out to family, friends, co-workers, etc.

239 code red 21  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 1:09:04pm

re: #14 Ringo the Gringo

If I were more conspiratorial minded, I'd say he was trying to bankrupt the country.

He is so he can remake it in the vision he has for a new socialist heaven on earth where everyone is equally miserable.

240 sngnsgt  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 4:01:27pm

Socialism R Us

241 Smorgasbord  Thu, Mar 26, 2009 4:28:49pm

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ISSUES ZERO ALERT

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ISSUING THE FOLLOWING ALERT

Due to the increased demand of our zeroes, they are now in short supply. Please conserve your zeroes. The Federal government needs all we can get. During the wars in other countries we asked you to conserve certain items so that our soldiers fighting over there would have the food and supplies they needed.

Your country is calling on you again to show your patriotism by conserving our zeroes. This time we need more zeroes. There are more zeroes going out than coming in. Please cut back on your use of them. If you have any extras, please turn them in to us.
Please send your extra zeroes to:
Secretary of the Treasury
Timothy F. Geithner
1500 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington DC 20220

He will make sure they are distributed where they are needed most. He is an expert on zeroes.

Secretary Geithner feels that if we can link enough of the zeroes together we can end our financial crisis. Right now there aren’t enough zeroes to form a long enough link. You could be “THE MISSING LINK” that supplies the zero that makes the number big enough to end the financial crisis. It is your duty as a citizen of the USA to do your part in saving, collecting, and sending us your zeroes.

You could start a local drive to collect zeroes, just like they did during the wars to collect metals and other items. Any patriotic citizen would be proud to give your group their extra zeroes. You will be a hero to your community and to your county.

As we did with the wars we fought all over the world, we need to pull together as a nation to end the financial crisis. We need to send Secretary Geithner all the ammunition he needs to fight this war. He needs your zeroes. It would be tragic if we were only one zero short of our goal. Don’t be THAT missing zero. If a soldier runs out of bullets, they have little chance of serving. If Secretary Geithner runs out of zeroes, we could loose this war.

TRAVELING IN OTHER COUNTRIES
If you travel to other countries, and they let you get some zeroes, please get as many as you can. Even if you can only get a few, that will help us end this economic crisis that much sooner. A zero is the same in any country, so the ones they use in the country you visit will work her in the USA. There is no limit on how many you may bring into the USA. Customs has been alerted, and any zeroes you bring in will be collected there. They will expedite the transfer of your zeroes to Secretary Geithner.

WAYS TO SAVE YOUR ZEROES
(1) When you pay for items, don’t pay in even dollars. Pay the exact cents of the bill. That will give you two zeroes on most transaction.
(2) Pay for each item individually instead of all of them at once, following rule number (1).


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