Mickey Kaus has posted a leaked series of emails from that (no longer) secret mailing list for journalists and left-wing bloggers, and it’s every bit as bad as you might have imagined; this exchange is titled: “BREAKING: Marty Peretz is a Crazy-Ass Racist.”
These are the captains of media, throwing around insults like a bunch of high school kids, where they think they won’t get caught at it.
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doppelganglander Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:23:29am |
Do they have a secret handshake and decoder rings, too?
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saberry0530 Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:23:31am |
Where can I sign up? I want to be in a secret cabal!
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LGoPs Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:23:53am |
The only people this is a secret to is the 52% that enjoyed being mind fucked by the media and voted accordingly.
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lawhawk Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:23:58am |
Fan-frakking-tastic!
Kaus is doing the job that real journalists wouldn't do, while the "real" journalists are busy sniping at each other.
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Dianna Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:24:10am |
re: #3 saberry0530
Where can I sign up? I want to be in a secret cabal!
////
You already are.
Oh, wait...we're not secret.
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kansas Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:24:51am |
OT
More lying from whatever the fuck this guy is.
Barack Obama used to get very upset about federal budget deficits. Denouncing an "orgy of spending and enormous deficits," he turned to John McCain during their presidential debates last fall and said, "We have had, over the last eight years, the biggest increases in deficit spending and national debt in our history...Now we have a half-trillion deficit annually...and Sen. McCain voted for four out of five of those George Bush budgets."
That was then. Now, President Obama is asking lawmakers to vote for a budget with a deficit three times the size of the one that so disturbed candidate Obama just a few months ago. And Obama foresees, for years to come, deficits that dwarf those he felt so passionately about way, way back in 2008.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:24:54am |
These "secret" emails are no different than the editorials foisted on us daily, full of crap and hatred.
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debutaunt Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:25:34am |
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kansas Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:25:46am |
When is it gonna be clear that every lie the Democrats tell about Republicans is exactly what they do?
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turn Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:26:54am |
re: #12 kansas
When is it gonna be clear that every lie the Democrats tell about Republicans is exactly what they do?
LIAR! ... oh wait
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doppelganglander Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:26:59am |
re: #4 Ward Cleaver
An online slam book?
That is exactly what I was thinking. They probably won't let anyone from TNR sit at their lunch table, either.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:27:04am |
re: #12 kansas
When is it gonna be clear that every lie the Democrats tell about Republicans is exactly what they do?
It's called Projection, and the Dems/Leftists are the masters of doing it.
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WindHorse Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:27:12am |
I have the kool-aid finished if anyone is interested.... the cups are over there on the shelf.....
it's grape btw......
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Dianna Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:27:23am |
re: #11 debutaunt
People keep forgetting to submit their expenses, though. That's why they're always a day late and a dollar short.
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joncelli Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:27:42am |
If read about this at KausFiles. It's like a scene out of Heathers.
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MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:28:18am |
Funny -- under Peter B. (no idea whether this extends to Frank, though
I imagine so) using the term "illegals" was verboten, for obvious
reasons.
What are those reasons? It's racist to point out legal facts?
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DaddyG Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:28:19am |
...secret mailing list for journalists and left-wing bloggers
I thought Daily KOS was a public blog?
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LGoPs Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:28:24am |
re: #12 kansas
When is it gonna be clear that every lie the Democrats tell about Republicans is exactly what they do?
Not until the media starts emphasizing it, which won't happen because they are fellow travelers.
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FrogMarch Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:29:25am |
Is there a difference between most journalists and left-wing bloggers?
Answer: NO.
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Shug Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:29:30am |
Wow. that chain of e-mails is incredibly tough to read.
I need some coffee
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:29:47am |
re: #15 doppelganglander
That is exactly what I was thinking. They probably won't let anyone from TNR sit at their lunch table, either.
Or they'd put a wad of gum in their sandwich.
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Ben Hur Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:29:54am |
My newest and now biggest pet peeve is the MISUSE OF THE WORLD DIASPORA!
There is NO Mexican DIASPORA!
There is no Arab DIASPORA!
Large immigrant groups that voluntarily left their home countries to live elsewhere were not DISPERSED!
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itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:29:55am |
Hey, if you haven't, click the link and read the transcript.
Wot a bunch of assholes. big time.
/no surprise
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doppelganglander Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:30:06am |
How about this choice nugget? Don't you want to know who "Redacted" is?
It bothered me when folks where making totally unsubstantiated comments about [REDACTED!--mk]'s sex life, and it bothers me when folks make [REDACTED] jokes. To be clear, I'm totally open to legitimate commentary on the substance of anyone's argument, and people should get smacked down if they lie, if they get things wrong, etc. I think analyzing Peretz's writing about Mexicans, or Palestinians, or whoever, is totally fair game. But saying that [REDACTED] clearly must not have a girlfriend, or speculating about who [REDACTED] gets turned down by sexually are not arguments. We wouldn't take similar statements remotely seriously if they were made by conservatives about anyone on this list.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:30:07am |
re: #25 Shug
Wow. that chain of e-mails is incredibly tough to read.
I need some coffee
I need some hard liquor.
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funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:30:20am |
The ABC News "top stories" bar was just up on the left of the front page, and after maybe 3 real news stories, it was all celebrity obsession and human-interest crap.
How freaking depressing. I mean, one of the headines was "Celebs all a-twitter."
Who gives a flying f*ck?
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RaiderDan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:30:22am |
Just another bunch of white-guilt media liberals navel gazing...
who gives a cr*p?
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Ben Hur Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:30:57am |
"Well, I am extremely pessimistic about Mexican-American relations, not because the U.S. had done anything specifically wrong to our southern neighbor but because a (now not quite so) wealthy country has as its abutter a Latin society with all of its characteristic
deficiencies: congenital corruption, authoritarian government,
anarchic politics, near-tropical work habits, stifling social mores,
Catholic dogma with the usual unacknowledged compromises, an anarchic counter-culture and increasingly violent modes of conflict. Then, there is the Mexican diaspora in America, hard-working and patriotic but mired in its untold numbers of illegals, about whom no one can talk with candor."
And how on Earth is that racist?
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:31:21am |
re: #31 funky chicken
The ABC News "top stories" bar was just up on the left of the front page, and after maybe 3 real news stories, it was all celebrity obsession and human-interest crap.
How freaking depressing. I mean, one of the headines was "Celebs all a-twitter."
Who gives a flying f*ck?
Shiny objects, shiny objects.
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aggieann Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:31:35am |
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DaddyG Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:31:47am |
I'd love to have Michelle Cottle on the list. My worry with Marty is that he
wouldn't respect the off-the-record nature of the discourse when it ceased to suit him.
Journalists expecting the privacy of their discourse respected.
heh... tee hee. snort! Bwa..hahahahahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHA!
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bunnymud Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:31:57am |
What a murder of self-important whack-a-doodles...and racists I might add.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:32:21am |
re: #27 Ben Hur
My newest and now biggest pet peeve is the MISUSE OF THE WORLD DIASPORA!
There is NO Mexican DIASPORA!
There is no Arab DIASPORA!
Large immigrant groups that voluntarily left their home countries to live elsewhere were not DISPERSED!
There are two reasons the word is so misused:
1. To minimize the plight of those who were forcibly dispersed, the Jews.
2. Lazy fuckin' people who don't want to be accurate, which would minimize or negate the agenda being pushed (See #1).
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tfc3rid Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:33:02am |
re: #5 LGoPs
The only people this is a secret to is the 52% that enjoyed being mind fucked by the media and voted accordingly.
You of course mean the 52% of 120 Million who voted... I would say 50% of the country does not support Obama...
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Shug Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:33:11am |
re: #30 Ward Cleaver
I need some hard liquor.
Let's split the difference and have a large Irish Coffee
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:33:17am |
re: #39 buzzsawmonkey
But you can cure your feelings of political marginality with frequent applications of Diasporin™. Consult your doctor of the historical record for proper usage.
Smear on a 2x4, then administer directly to forehead.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:33:33am |
re: #24 FrogMarch
Is there a difference between most journalists and left-wing bloggers?
Answer: NO.
There is a difference, left-wing bloggers are up-front with their bias and agenda.
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Ben Hur Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:33:35am |
Jeez.
It really is like highschool.
Even more so than Hollywood.
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Ringo the Gringo Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:33:38am |
Unbelievable.
It's like eavesdropping on all my Lefty friends chatting on Facebook.
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yesandno Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:34:04am |
There are no adults anymore.
Only post pubescent 40 year olds with age 11 sniggering humor...
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funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:34:05am |
re: #27 Ben Hur
My newest and now biggest pet peeve is the MISUSE OF THE WORLD DIASPORA!
There is NO Mexican DIASPORA!
There is no Arab DIASPORA!
Large immigrant groups that voluntarily left their home countries to live elsewhere were not DISPERSED!
good luck. I went on an anti-restive jihad, and I like to give myself credit for the fact that the word is no longer used in every article about ROP SOP
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Nevergiveup Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:34:09am |
Well most of the threads this AM depressed me so I am going to sign off soon and go on a beer run.
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wee fury Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:35:05am |
Never put anything in writing that you wouldn't want the whole world to see.
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Ringo the Gringo Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:35:14am |
re: #51 Nevergiveup
Well most of the threads this AM depressed me so I am going to sign off soon and go on a beer run.
Is it beer-o-clock already?
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dhg4 Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:35:18am |
re: #3 saberry0530
Where can I sign up? I want to be in a secret cabal!
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I'm Jewish, I'm already part of one.
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itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:35:21am |
re: #49 yesandno
There are no adults anymore.
Only post pubescent 40 year olds with age 11 sniggering humor...
in MSM, prezactly, a good career aptitute test sorts them out and sends them there.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:35:32am |
re: #53 pink freud
The fourth estate needs to be in probate.
TARP funds would be used to prevent foreclosure. :%P%
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Nevergiveup Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:35:50am |
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:36:32am |
These people take the First Amendment and shit on it. They aren't journalists, or even true Americans; they're assholes.
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tfc3rid Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:36:52am |
Complete and utter assholes who think their shit don't stink...
They can go to hell too...
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funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:37:10am |
re: #29 doppelganglander
Context clues tell me that [redacted] is Marty Peretz.
So, the founder of this group is Scott Beauchamp's "editor" Franklin Foer?
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Taqiyyotomist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:37:19am |
re: #27 Ben Hur
They did the same with "circumcise", "holy", and "martyr". Twisted their meanings to their polar opposites.
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lobo91 Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:37:35am |
re: #51 Nevergiveup
Well most of the threads this AM depressed me so I am going to sign off soon and go on a beer run.
I'm going to leave shortly to head for Colorado Springs, which should be fun.
At least I had the foresight to drive the Hyundai this week, instead of the Mustang...
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yesandno Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:37:50am |
re: #40 FurryOldGuyJeans
There are two reasons the word is so misused:
1. To minimize the plight of those who were forcibly dispersed, the Jews.
2. Lazy fuckin' people who don't want to be accurate, which would minimize or negate the agenda being pushed (See #1).
I agree....would is misused to mean migration of groups of people....like Italians to South America......what ever the reason.
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wiffersnapper Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:37:50am |
So I missed out on the late night Hopen last night. So I'll post it here.
Global warming hurt us real bad in Colorado. Over a foot of snow practically all over the state, and CSU had a snow day! Damn greedy Americans and your SUV gas-guzzlers. SHUT DOWN COAL PLANTS NOW!
/sarc
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DaddyG Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:39:55am |
re: #70 buzzsawmonkey
I always hate it when the person at the register at McDonald's asks if I want my order circumcised.
Then don't order the bris-kit.
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wiffersnapper Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:39:59am |
Bunch of classy liberals in this email list, for sure!
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smokefire Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:40:25am |
re: #57 dhg4
..........wait I thought that was a gutter Religion, not a cabal.
BTW: I am married to one of those members of a secret cabal
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J.S. Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:40:25am |
If this chain of email(s) were "in house" (from a group all working for the same company), I'd be less worried. The problem here is that the public generally believes that the "media" are in competition, with one media entity competing with another, when, in reality, they're sharing "talking points." This may explain why viewers/readers hear the same thing from supposedly "different" outlets -- the leftist press/tv shows repeat the "party lines" in multiple ways over and over again, resulting in a uniformity of views...very little real diversity of opinions.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:40:34am |
re: #72 wiffersnapper
Bunch of classy liberals in this email list, for sure!
They think they are, which is all that matters to 'em.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:41:26am |
re: #75 J.S.
If this chain of email(s) were "in house" (from a group all working for the same company), I'd be less worried. The problem here is that the public generally believes that the "media" are in competition, with one media entity competing with another, when, in reality, they're sharing "talking points." This may explain why viewers/readers hear the same thing from supposedly "different" outlets -- the leftist press/tv shows repeat the "party lines" in multiple ways over and over again, resulting in a uniformity of views...very little real diversity of opinions.
Diversity of opinion for Leftoids is when everyone thinks the same way they do.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:42:13am |
Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.
[Link: www.ft.com...]
One of Obama's friends?
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dhg4 Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:42:48am |
The Weekly Standard notes that some of these folks won't likely be writing for the The New Republic anymore.
I guess that direct attacks on the boss would have that effect.
Peretz fired the late Michael Kelly as his editor, when Kelly couldn't resist taking swipes at Al Gore, Peretz's good friend.
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LGoPs Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:42:59am |
There seems to be a junior
> high quality to this list with regard to TNR, where if you're not on
> it you get sniped at constantly, but if you are on it you're mostly
> safe.
This is one of the more cogent explanations of how the entire MFM works. They act like the 'in crowd' and if you're not part of them, as conservatives clearly are not, then you get savaged........
Bunch of childish bastards.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:43:19am |
re: #79 Nevergiveup
Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.
[Link: www.ft.com...]
One of Obama's friends?
Yea! I have brown eyes!
/
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MrSilverDragon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:43:56am |
re: #79 Nevergiveup
Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.
[Link: www.ft.com...]
One of Obama's friends?
Phew! Mine are hazel, so not my fault.
/...
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LGoPs Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:44:17am |
re: #75 J.S.
If this chain of email(s) were "in house" (from a group all working for the same company), I'd be less worried. The problem here is that the public generally believes that the "media" are in competition, with one media entity competing with another, when, in reality, they're sharing "talking points." This may explain why viewers/readers hear the same thing from supposedly "different" outlets -- the leftist press/tv shows repeat the "party lines" in multiple ways over and over again, resulting in a uniformity of views...very little real diversity of opinions.
They're all fellow travelers.
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davinvalkri Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:45:13am |
re: #11 debutaunt
Except for the ionist-zay paychecks.
I haven't got one!
But, regarding the cabal, how long did they think they could keep this JournoList affair secret? They used the Internet, for chrissake! There are caches, records, and everything! Didn't they learn from the Palin debacle?
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debutaunt Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:45:39am |
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VegasRick Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:46:04am |
re: #79 Nevergiveup
Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.
[Link: www.ft.com...]
One of Obama's friends?
I have brn/grn eyes and black hair, where do I pick - up my check?
/
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DaddyG Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:47:37am |
re: #76 FurryOldGuyJeans
They think they are, which is all that matters to 'em.
Years ago I started saying liberals are prone to psychological projection as a semi-sarcastic remark.
Now the more I know the more I think perhaps I am on to something.
Accusations of politics of destruction vs. what they really do.
Accusations of destroyed civil liberties vs. what they really do.
Accusations of elitism vs. what they really do.
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Opinionated Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:47:37am |
re: #1 Dianna
What did Marty Peretz do?!
His is the worst possible crime. A Liberal who supports Liberal candidates- including Obama- and, are you prepared- supports Israel.
But then anyone who supports Israel AND Obama might just be a little bit crazy. Maybe more then a little.
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DaddyG Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:49:00am |
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HugoChavez Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:49:13am |
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:49:22am |
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blangwort Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:50:01am |
I'd like to say that many would be shocked and appalled at this sort of juvenile behavior, but they're not.
We knew this all along. The difference is that this sort of talk used to be confined to a discreet few bars near the offices. Today, however, it's gone world-wide --Baby!
And in truth, there is nothing wrong with a Journalist who says s/he is reporting from a certain point of view. The wrong is that they ply their craft as if it were pure, snow-white unbiased truth. We all know that ain't true, and what we have here is proof positive.
I wonder what Savage is going to say when he hears what these people had to say about him...
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doppelganglander Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:50:24am |
re: #64 funky chicken
Context clues tell me that [redacted] is Marty Peretz.
So, the founder of this group is Scott Beauchamp's "editor" Franklin Foer?
No, it was organized by Ezra Klein. Your theory that [redacted] is Peretz is very interesting. I know nothing about him.
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gonecamping Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:53:33am |
I can't get the article to load, but regardless....aren't these the same twits that used to claim Carl Rove sent out talking points to Rush, Hannity, Beck, etc.
I guess that since they do it, they assume the opposition does too.
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HugoChavez Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:53:54am |
re: #79 Nevergiveup
Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.
[Link: www.ft.com...]
One of Obama's friends?
No white people here. Our economies are literally humming!
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HugoChavez Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:54:52am |
Ah, the life of a Marxist dictator.....
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doppelganglander Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:55:29am |
re: #79 Nevergiveup
Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.
[Link: www.ft.com...]
One of Obama's friends?
Foxnews.com's headline: "Brazil Nut."
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quickjustice Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:55:48am |
We need to imitate third world nations more. After all, it's not fair that our standard of living is higher than theirs! ;-)
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HugoChavez Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:56:06am |
Hey lady, you're pinching me in the wrong place.
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grahamski Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:57:14am |
re: #79 Nevergiveup
Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.
[Link: www.ft.com...]
One of Obama's friends?
Whew...Green eyes here, missed it by that much.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:58:36am |
re: #99 HugoChavez
Ah, the life of a Marxist dictator.....
Bring Chavez to his knees. Cut off Venezuela's Viagra imports.
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LGoPs Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:58:43am |
re: #97 gonecamping
I can't get the article to load, but regardless....aren't these the same twits that used to claim Carl Rove sent out talking points to Rush, Hannity, Beck, etc.
I guess that since they do it, they assume the opposition does too.
Classical Projection. They project onto their opposition precisely what they are or would like to be doing.
It's a good tool for judging their intentions. Look at all the bad mouthing of evil rich people not paying their fair share and then when you scratch the surface - as in Obama's Cabinet appointment scandals - you find that all of the bastards find ways to not pay their own fair share..........
Bastards, every one of them..
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:59:01am |
re: #101 quickjustice
We need to imitate third world nations more. After all, it's not fair that our standard of living is higher than theirs! ;-)
0 is taking care of that.
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HugoChavez Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:00:24am |
re: #104 Kosh's Shadow
Bring Chavez to his knees. Cut off Venezuela's Viagra imports.
That's fine, just don't stop the flow of your hot American bimbos and all is fine.
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HugoChavez Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:02:41am |
After this one, I needed an entire crate of Viagra just to even start thinking about sex again. Yech!
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Noam Chumpski Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:05:33am |
That's funny that they are criticizing TNR for not being "liberal enough."
Apparently, you aren't legit unless you're a screaming moonbat liberal monkey, throwing poo on everyone not as liberal as yourself.
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Noam Chumpski Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:05:39am |
The only thing that surprises me about these exchanges is the minimal amount of cursing. For some reason, Liberal blog posters (not sure about "secret" lists like this) love to curse online. I guess it gives you that cool, street cred they love so much.
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CommonCents Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:06:30am |
re: #27 Ben Hur
My newest and now biggest pet peeve is the MISUSE OF THE WORLD DIASPORA!
There is NO Mexican DIASPORA!
There is no Arab DIASPORA!
Large immigrant groups that voluntarily left their home countries to live elsewhere were not DISPERSED!
You shouldn't be so hard on the 3rd graders. I recall using words I didn't know the meaning of when I was 8.
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Noam Chumpski Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:07:48am |
re: #97 gonecamping
aren't these the same twits that used to claim Carl Rove sent out talking points to Rush, Hannity, Beck, etc.
I'm always confused - either one is true, but they claim both:
1. Rush Limbaugh (and all Conservative talk show hosts) get their opinions/facts/info straight from the RNC. Like a daily email.
OR
2. All of the Conservative talk show hosts are telling the RNC what to do.
(Can't have it both ways, but they try.)
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alegrias Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:08:06am |
re: #53 pink freud
The fourth estate needs to be in probate.
* * * *
Bankrupt them!
Except the Wall Street Journal, the Weekly Standard which linked to this bit today, and the Washington Times!
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Ceemack Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:09:27am |
Hmmm...so, Martin Peretz is a "crazy-ass racist" for saying that Latin American countries have a tendency toward corrupt authoritarianism, and that laziness is common south of the border.
Apparently, "crazy-ass racist" is a phrase used to describe anybody who's been to Mexico, and paid attention at least part of the time he or she was there.
For me, the real irony of this thread is the way they disparage anybody who might protest that seeing Mexico as corrupt, authoritarian and fraught with laziness has to be about race, and can't be about culture.
And yet, they all agree immigrants (legal or illegal) from Mexico are hard-working. Help me out...do their genetic characteristics change when they cross the border? Or could it be that there is something about the social and economic environment of the United States that both demands harder work and rewards it more fully?
Then again, it could be the heat. It's hot in Mexico--makes it hard to get motivated to do much.
But critical thinking of this sort is clearly beyond those on the "JournoList".
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:09:42am |
re: #3 saberry0530
Where can I sign up? I want to be in a secret cabal!
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Can't tell you...it's a secret.
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Ceemack Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:10:55am |
For me, the real irony of this thread is the way they disparage anybody who might protest that seeing Mexico as corrupt, authoritarian and fraught with laziness has to be about race, and can't be about culture.
Sorry...should have edited that to say:
For me, the real irony of this thread is the way they disparage anybody who might protest that seeing Mexico as corrupt, authoritarian and fraught with laziness might be a matter of culture, not race.
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Noam Chumpski Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:12:17am |
re: #115 alegrias
* * * *
Bankrupt them!Except the Wall Street Journal, the Weekly Standard which linked to this bit today, and the Washington Times!
I've been wondering about this a lot lately. Here in Atlanta, our rag is so leftist that I haven't bought a copy in years, BUT I would hate for it to go away because many of the things not located in the News and Politics sections are useful.
I've heard arguments that we (Atlantans) should subscribe to keep it going for the simple reason that we need the information source.
I have another opinion:
Let them go bankrupt and then buy them outright through a group of investors at a reduced cost and create a paper that is truly reasonable and intelligent.
Problem solved.
I see no reason to support a broken system.
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Mike McDaniel Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:13:11am |
re: #114 Noam Chumpski
I'm always confused - either one is true, but they claim both:
1. Rush Limbaugh (and all Conservative talk show hosts) get their opinions/facts/info straight from the RNC. Like a daily email.
OR
2. All of the Conservative talk show hosts are telling the RNC what to do.
(Can't have it both ways, but they try.)
It's mirror-imaging. The propaganda press works hand-in-glove with the DNC. Propaganda points for the day, etc. So they assume that conservatives work the same way.
Independence and integrity are not liberal virtues.
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Noam Chumpski Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:13:45am |
re: #120 Mike McDaniel
It's mirror-imaging. The propaganda press works hand-in-glove with the DNC. Propaganda points for the day, etc. So they assume that conservatives work the same way.
Independence and integrity are not liberal virtues.
Yep
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Noam Chumpski Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:15:13am |
I won't trust newspapers until they include foot notes; just like every other published professional writing style in the world (Doctors, Engineers, etc...)
Journalism is the only "profession" that doesn't require proof of information.
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joncelli Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:18:20am |
re: #90 HugoChavez
No coincidence that Soros is sitting off to the right of the staircase either, jefe.
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HugoChavez Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:22:48am |
re: #123 joncelli
But when facing the proletariat, I'm to the Left of the Obamessiah.
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J.S. Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:36:00am |
re: #21 MandyManners
What are those reasons? It's racist to point out legal facts?
Actually...(lol) This reminds me of CBC shortly after 9/11. In retrospect it was not without its amusing moments...that's when CBC did a major media blitz to vindicate the religion of Islam...and to focus on the multitude of "failings" of the West and to deny (vociferously) that any "problems" existed with the religion of Islam. (notably, of course, the biggest endorsers of "Islam means peace!" in the light of 9/11 weren't Muslims.) Anywho, then we here in Canada (or at least those who were back then still listening to the CBC) would be given daily lessons on Islam, its precepts, its pacificity, and to be contrasted with the horrors of Christianity, the horrors of the Crusaders, the horrors the Muslim world daily endures at the hands of Westerners, etc. And on the "black-list" of the CBC was, of course, Samuel Huntington. Why? Because Samuel Huntington had the unmitigated audacity to write that "Islam has bloody borders." For days, nay, weeks, months, years, it was pounded into every CBC listener that to even hint that "Islam has bloody borders" was to become instantaneously the world's worst racist. Thus, this phrase, along with, of course, the word "terrorist" became, in the lexicon of the CBC, taboo. These were the words that could not be spoken by any journalist (the CBC went so far as to substitute the word "militant" for "terrorist" even when directly quoting a source without bothering to let their listeners, readers, know that they had substituted words. Hence they were not even allowed to quote people accurately...that's how mindless the CBC bureaucracy is...) Anyway, the "Peretz is a racist meme" is also par for the course. Anyone who would dare suggest that cultures might differ (or have different values) is, again, instantly branded "Racist!" that's done so that all conversation ceases. There's was an interesting (controversial) book published in 2001 -- "Culture Matters" -- co-edited by Huntington which explored these politically incorrect, taboo topics...it's worth the read...(can look it up at Amazon.com, etc.)
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kansas Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:36:11am |
re: #79 Nevergiveup
Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.
[Link: www.ft.com...]
One of Obama's friends?
I have brown eyes. I'm safe.
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General Sherman Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:47:59am |
The only thing certain after reading the e-mails is that Eric Alterman is the biggest tool in that toolbox.
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Emerald Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:48:27am |
No wonder the Dems want to give the papers a bailout. They're petrified what will happen if the public doesn't get their daily dose of propaganda.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:44:12am |
re: #125 J.S.
What do you expect from the Canadian Broadcorping Castration?
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Yashmak Fri, Mar 27, 2009 12:12:25pm |
It's ironic that these folks are the same sort who feel a sense of intellectual and moral superiority over the rest of us. . .yet they conduct themselves in a manner more suited to the he-said-she-said of high-school dating.
Maybe this is what they do all day instead of, you know, researching their stories, or doing any real reporting.
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Yashmak Fri, Mar 27, 2009 12:13:58pm |
I did note, however, that these folks find Olbermann to be an megalomaniacal bufoon. . .which is the only really encouraging/enlightening thing I read in that whole exchange.
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P-DEX Fri, Mar 27, 2009 12:17:54pm |
Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.
And I'm personally coming for you next, asshole.
/
(I'm very white and have very blue eyes, by the way.)
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Thunderbottom Fri, Mar 27, 2009 12:25:57pm |
re: #60 Nevergiveup
It's 12:35 PM EST. Does that count?
Hey, close enough for me. "Buttocks up!" (channelling "Monty Python")
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Thunderbottom Fri, Mar 27, 2009 12:27:25pm |
re: #131 Yashmak
I did note, however, that these folks find Olbermann to be an megalomaniacal bufoon. . .which is the only really encouraging/enlightening thing I read in that whole exchange.
But, they regard him as an "honest" and "truthful" megalomaniacal buffoon.
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Yashmak Fri, Mar 27, 2009 12:36:28pm |
re: #134 Thunderbottom
But, they regard him as an "honest" and "truthful" megalomaniacal buffoon.
Heh, you must've read the exchange too.
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J.S. Fri, Mar 27, 2009 12:39:03pm |
re: #129 Kosh's Shadow
The CBC has lost ad revenue monies (they still have over a billion dollars in taxpayer's monies), so now they're into downsizing...800 jobs will be cut, and some of the CBC properties may be put up for sale. On certain topics the CBC would invariably fall off a cliff (that would be anything touching on the topic of Israel, Americans, Islam, etc.), but on other matters the CBC excelled...(some in-depth reporting was excellent, and certain reporters were truly excellent -- top rate -- I won't name them)...others, of course, should probably pursued different careers (eg, converted to Islam and preached jihad in a mosque?) Maybe a shake-up at the CBC will be a good thing? (the same political panel on "The National" -- the panel has been in existence for what -- 20 years? now -- the same people -- the "pundit" from the Globe and Mail, the former pollster, the alleged lesbian from Montreal -- the same people, 20 years later -- whatever they say, it's totally predictable -- I'd like to see some fresh faces, maybe somebody new? I stopped listening to CBC radio a decade ago...and only occasionally tune in to CBC on tv...and, then, you spot the same "political panel" doing the same as per 20 years ago...and mostly Toronto centric. It's my definition of "parochial.")
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Querent Fri, Mar 27, 2009 12:41:11pm |
re: #79 Nevergiveup
Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.
Hey... i resemble that remark...
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Thunderbottom Fri, Mar 27, 2009 12:48:58pm |
re: #81 LGoPs
This is one of the more cogent explanations of how the entire MFM works. They act like the 'in crowd' and if you're not part of them, as conservatives clearly are not, then you get savaged........
Bunch of childish bastards.
At least they're not voting to have "dissidents" like Jonah Goldberg and David Horowitz declared as "enemies of the People" - yet.
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Thunderbottom Fri, Mar 27, 2009 12:54:33pm |
re: #85 davinvalkri
I haven't got one!
But, regarding the cabal, how long did they think they could keep this JournoList affair secret? They used the Internet, for chrissake! There are caches, records, and everything! Didn't they learn from the Palin debacle?
Dey tink we Konsurvativs not smott enuff to use de Innernut lik dey kan do.
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Last Man Fri, Mar 27, 2009 1:37:32pm |
One of the most reliably entertaining spectator sports, watching the left carve itself into ever smaller pieces shredded bloody flesh.
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Nogbad Fri, Mar 27, 2009 3:10:04pm |
re: #136 J.S.
J.S: Whom do you mean by the "pundit" from the Globe and Mail?
Do you mean Andrew Coyne?
He was at the National Post (but now Macleans).
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:56:35pm |
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Syrah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:38:44pm |
These are the captains of media, throwing around insults like a bunch of high school kids, where they think they won’t get caught at it.
In the internet age, nothing can be hid for long. Everything can be revealed. There are no secrets on the web, not even in the emails, . . . but gnupg is better than nothing.
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