4 | Gang of One Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:22:38am |
“Print Media and Blogs Collide”
… Women and minorities most affected …
5 | CIA Reject Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:23:24am |
6 | Diamond Bullet Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:23:26am |
Sweet print media, never leave me. I need your environmentalist articles printed on dead trees to fuel my Hypocr-o-meter.
7 | zombie Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:23:50am |
Pretty funny. My favorite part was the 19th-century typesetter, trying to ink up the keyboard keys.
8 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:24:37am |
Actually, if the media still operated like they did in the early 20th century, I doubt they would be in as much trouble.
It was the high, holy, calling of journalism that killed it off.
9 | gmsc Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:24:55am |
I clicked the video to watch it on YouTube, but it doesn’t look quite right.
10 | Gang of One Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:25:04am |
“Print Media and Blogs Collide”
Rove, you magnificent bastard!
14 | Gang of One Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:26:08am |
re: #8 EmmmieG
Actually, if the media still operated like they did in the early 20th century, I doubt they would be in as much trouble.
It was the high, holy, calling of advocacy journalism that killed it off.
FTFY
16 | turn Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:26:39am |
I didn’t find that very funny, well like not at all.
18 | CynicalConservative Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:27:30am |
19 | gmsc Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:28:12am |
re: #18 CynicalConservative
Guy on the corner?
That’s him in the corner? That’s him in the spotlight? Losing his religion?
20 | zombie Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:28:55am |
But hey, this is serious.
Newspapers are indeed closing down at an astonishing pace. The print newspaper industry in the middle of total collapse. Every week — nay, every day — some newspaper goes out of business.
Meanwhile, the remaining ones are trying to get “free” content from bloggers and citizen journalists.
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer just shut down, as did the Rocky Mountain News. The San Francisco Chronicle has the gun to its temple — could shut down any moment. And that’s just the last few days.
Huffington Post is trying to step into the breach, but they too do NOT pay contributors.
Tens of thousands (not an exaggeration) of professional writers, editors and photographers are out of works, with nowhere to turn but blogs. And yet blogs do not have the cash flow to pay them.
Either newsmaking will become a “hobbyist” sport, or will disappear altogether.
22 | zombie Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:29:54am |
re: #9 gmsc
I clicked the video to watch it on YouTube, but it doesn’t look quite right.
I’m not going to fall for that! I look for “flip=1” in all URL links today!
23 | J.S. Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:30:54am |
re: #20 zombie
Chicago’s Sun-Times media has also filed for chapter 11…
25 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:32:48am |
re: #20 zombie
But hey, this is serious.
Newspapers are indeed closing down at an astonishing pace. The print newspaper industry in the middle of total collapse. Every week — nay, every day — some newspaper goes out of business.
Meanwhile, the remaining ones are trying to get “free” content from bloggers and citizen journalists.
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer just shut down, as did the Rocky Mountain News. The San Francisco Chronicle has the gun to its temple — could shut down any moment. And that’s just the last few days.
Huffington Post is trying to step into the breach, but they too do NOT pay contributors.
Tens of thousands (not an exaggeration) of professional writers, editors and photographers are out of works, with nowhere to turn but blogs. And yet blogs do not have the cash flow to pay them.
Either newsmaking will become a “hobbyist” sport, or will disappear altogether.
You forgot to mention the extent to which television reporters rely on print reporters to break the news. IIRC, Dan Rather used to start his day by reading the NYT.
26 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:32:55am |
re: #7 zombie
Pretty funny. My favorite part was the 19th-century typesetter, trying to ink up the keyboard keys.
I liked the 1930’s cigar-chomping “copy!” guy
27 | Gang of One Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:33:07am |
re: #20 zombie
Either newsmaking will become a “hobbyist” sport, or will disappear altogether.
Zom, do you mean newsgathering? I know blogging is not lucrative, but like any other media endeavor, is not the number of eyeballs the screen has looking at that attracts advertisers and money? Perhaps if dead-tree media does go belly-up, and peeps start flocking to websites [where I imagine true circulation could be ascertained] these same newswriters might find a way to make a living?
29 | CIA Reject Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:33:25am |
This is no April fool’s joke - now the government wants the authority to shut off private computer networks at will:
“Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a White House cybersecurity “czar” with unprecedented authority to shut down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is underway, the officials said. ”
Not good …
31 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:34:12am |
re: #20 zombie
Tens of thousands (not an exaggeration) of professional writers, editors and photographers are out of works, with nowhere to turn but blogs. And yet blogs do not have the cash flow to pay them.
Why don’t they start their own blogs?
32 | varmint Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:34:44am |
one disturbingly accurate part, the old timey journalist wanted to run a story on corruption in city hall while his blogger masters wanted another pointless new gadget mash up.
i always figure killing print would sort of free the newspaper. getting rid of the presses, and the distribution networks, and the unions that control both would be liberating.
but their downfall is ideological. half the country doesn’t believe/respect them anymore. and the rest on on huffington.
33 | brookly red Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:36:29am |
re: #29 CIA Reject
This is no April fool’s joke - now the government wants the authority to shut off private computer networks at will:
Not good …
this is NOT America.
34 | Occasional Reader Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:36:31am |
re: #20 zombie
I’m about to do my bit, and renew my subscription to the Wall Street Journal.
And, oddly enough, if/when the New York Times dies, I will actually mourn its passing.
36 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:38:06am |
re: #20 zombie
But hey, this is serious.
Newspapers are indeed closing down at an astonishing pace. The print newspaper industry in the middle of total collapse. Every week — nay, every day — some newspaper goes out of business.
Meanwhile, the remaining ones are trying to get “free” content from bloggers and citizen journalists.
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer just shut down, as did the Rocky Mountain News. The San Francisco Chronicle has the gun to its temple — could shut down any moment. And that’s just the last few days.
Huffington Post is trying to step into the breach, but they too do NOT pay contributors.
Tens of thousands (not an exaggeration) of professional writers, editors and photographers are out of works, with nowhere to turn but blogs. And yet blogs do not have the cash flow to pay them.
Either newsmaking will become a “hobbyist” sport, or will disappear altogether.
And newspapers don’t realize that they don’t have value when they’re propaganda sheets. They’ve been cutting back on what makes them worth it, like real investigative reporting, making them less and less relevant.
39 | itellu3times Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:38:59am |
re: #34 Occasional Reader
And, oddly enough, if/when the New York Times dies, I will actually mourn its passing.
Is that what those bags of candy by your door, are for?
40 | lawhawk Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:39:03am |
re: #34 Occasional Reader
I’m about to do my bit, and renew my subscription to the Wall Street Journal.
And, oddly enough, if/when the New York Times dies, I will actually mourn its passing.
You too will need to find another paper to line your birdcage?
41 | snowcrash Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:39:38am |
re: #16 turn
I am usually the first to laugh, but something kinda sad in the clip. Upding.
42 | Dianna Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:39:54am |
re: #16 turn
I didn’t find that very funny, well like not at all.
Disputing matters of taste is a waste of time.
44 | CynicalConservative Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:40:19am |
re: #40 lawhawk
You too will need to find another paper to line your birdcage?
Plenty of junk mail for that.
45 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:40:44am |
re: #29 CIA Reject
This is no April fool’s joke - now the government wants the authority to shut off private computer networks at will:
Not good …
It really depends on what they mean by it.
It could be as simple as having the authority to shut down a network that has been taken over by hackers, for example. If some company got infected and was being used to launch a denial of service attack on someone else, disconnecting that company until they got their systems cleaned would be legit.
But there are other, far worse, uses.
46 | zombie Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:40:45am |
re: #36 Kosh’s Shadow
And newspapers don’t realize that they don’t have value when they’re propaganda sheets. They’ve been cutting back on what makes them worth it, like real investigative reporting, making them less and less relevant.
I suppose this should be my chance to continue to the next step of my “Project Re-invent Journalism,” but damn I’m too busy to do much blogging these days! I’m letting the opportunity of a generation slip through my fingers.
47 | CIA Reject Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:41:21am |
re: #44 CynicalConservative
Plenty of junk mail for that.
Problem with that is your bird will start trying to sell you timeshares.
48 | ConservatismNow! Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:42:10am |
I think Zombie would make a fine journalist. The Undead One is investiga-awesome! (stolen from Homestar Runner.)
50 | brookly red Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:42:39am |
re: #34 Occasional Reader
I’m about to do my bit, and renew my subscription to the Wall Street Journal.
And, oddly enough, if/when the New York Times dies, I will actually mourn its passing.
spit! F’em!
51 | rawmuse Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:42:44am |
re: #20 zombie
But hey, this is serious.
Newspapers are indeed closing down at an astonishing pace. The print newspaper industry in the middle of total collapse. Every week — nay, every day — some newspaper goes out of business.
Meanwhile, the remaining ones are trying to get “free” content from bloggers and citizen journalists.
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer just shut down, as did the Rocky Mountain News. The San Francisco Chronicle has the gun to its temple — could shut down any moment. And that’s just the last few days.
Huffington Post is trying to step into the breach, but they too do NOT pay contributors.
Tens of thousands (not an exaggeration) of professional writers, editors and photographers are out of works, with nowhere to turn but blogs. And yet blogs do not have the cash flow to pay them.
Either newsmaking will become a “hobbyist” sport, or will disappear altogether.
Sounds sort of like what happened to the music business.
52 | CynicalConservative Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:43:00am |
re: #47 CIA Reject
Problem with that is your bird will start trying to sell you timeshares.
Give him a phone and make him earn his keep.
53 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:43:27am |
The first American continuously printed newspaper.
54 | livefreeor die Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:45:31am |
re: #13 rightside
I can’t believe how every day, this administration reaches higher levels of idiocy.
That’s right, the Queen won’t have an IPod unless Super Obama brings her one.
55 | CIA Reject Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:46:19am |
re: #45 Kosh’s Shadow
It really depends on what they mean by it.
It could be as simple as having the authority to shut down a network that has been taken over by hackers, for example. If some company got infected and was being used to launch a denial of service attack on someone else, disconnecting that company until they got their systems cleaned would be legit.But there are other, far worse, uses.
The decision to shut down a private network is the responsibility of the network owner, not the government. In order to determine whether or not a “cyber attack” is underway on a network you must first be able to consistently read the traffic on that network. This is NOT something the government should be doing on a routine basis. IMHO this is an attempt to do an “end run” around the Wiretap Act.
56 | zombie Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:46:48am |
re: #48 ConservatismNow!
I think Zombie would make a fine journalist. The Undead One is investiga-awesome! (stolen from Homestar Runner.)
How can I not upding that?
57 | Kenneth Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:47:31am |
Red Stripe, the beer for ugly people…
58 | Summer Seale Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:48:05am |
That was actually hilarious. I love the ink guy. =)
59 | revobob Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:49:02am |
re: #55 CIA Reject
The decision to shut down a private network is the responsibility of the network owner, not the government. In order to determine whether or not a “cyber attack” is underway on a network you must first be able to consistently read the traffic on that network. This is NOT something the government should be doing on a routine basis. IMHO this is an attempt to do an “end run” around the Wiretap Act.
Seems to me that if there is some sort of central nexus enabling the feds to shut a network down, that nexus is likely to be subject to hack-attacks. Then you could have the PRC getting into more businesses than they already manage.
60 | ConservatismNow! Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:50:22am |
re: #56 zombie
Seriously. I’ve been reading your blog for years now. You’d make a fantastic investigative journalist. You already are one anyways.
61 | jester6 Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:51:34am |
re: #20 zombie
But hey, this is serious.
Newspapers are indeed closing down at an astonishing pace. The print newspaper industry in the middle of total collapse. Every week — nay, every day — some newspaper goes out of business.
Meanwhile, the remaining ones are trying to get “free” content from bloggers and citizen journalists.
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer just shut down, as did the Rocky Mountain News. The San Francisco Chronicle has the gun to its temple — could shut down any moment. And that’s just the last few days.
Huffington Post is trying to step into the breach, but they too do NOT pay contributors.
Tens of thousands (not an exaggeration) of professional writers, editors and photographers are out of works, with nowhere to turn but blogs. And yet blogs do not have the cash flow to pay them.
Either newsmaking will become a “hobbyist” sport, or will disappear altogether.
I don’t see that much of a problem with newsmaking becoming a hobbyist sport at the local level. My small town paper is so poorly written and often simply factually wrong I don’t even subscribe. I would rather read something written by someone involved and informed, then I will filter for the obvious bias.
Ten years ago the net killed tens of thousand of travel agent jobs, has deeply cut into the profits of auto dealers and phone companies revenue from the yellow pages. This is just another phase of an ongoing process.
62 | Occasional Reader Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:53:40am |
Speaking of media…
Flying pig? Penn Jillette questions the wisdom of The One on CNN.com, of all places.
63 | lawhawk Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:54:01am |
Hmm… a foreign minister who gets it? New Israeli FM Lieberman says that just because you utter word peace frequently doesn’t make it happen and that Israel has made more concessions than those regimes and entities that still are at war with Israel. Of course, you’ve got folks complaining that he stated an undeniable fact.
64 | alegrias Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:57:06am |
re: #34 Occasional Reader
I’m about to do my bit, and renew my subscription to the Wall Street Journal.
And, oddly enough, if/when the New York Times dies, I will actually mourn its passing.
* * *
Yes, so sad but they brought it on themselves by their navel gazing partisanship. They lost sight of the old tradition, REPORTING.
65 | alegrias Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:58:17am |
re: #54 livefreeor die
I can’t believe how every day, this administration reaches higher levels of idiocy.
That’s right, the Queen won’t have an IPod unless Super Obama brings her one.
* * **
That I-Pod was invented in Nancy Pelosi’s state, California. Got a problem with that? Who do you think is calling the shots!
66 | Arbalest Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:58:18am |
Journalists, reporters and editors (oh my) applying for work at blogs?
I think I’ve seen this before:
68 | IslandLibertarian Wed, Apr 1, 2009 12:04:41pm |
N. Korea ‘Will Mercilessly Shoot Down’ U.S. Spy Planes
…..as opposed to mercifully shooting down U.S. spy planes………….
…..I’ve been shot down in a few Korean Hostess Bars, and there was no mercy……..
69 | Ben Hur Wed, Apr 1, 2009 12:08:29pm |
re: #62 Occasional Reader
Speaking of media…
Flying pig? Penn Jillette questions the wisdom of The One on CNN.com, of all places.
Editor’s note: Penn Jillette — the larger, louder half of Penn & Teller — is a magician, comedian, actor, author and producer.
Funny, you never see that clarification about John Stewart, Bill Maher, Garafalo, and the other cultural “elites”….
70 | mattm Wed, Apr 1, 2009 12:11:53pm |
re: #20 zombie
But hey, this is serious.
Newspapers are indeed closing down at an astonishing pace. The print newspaper industry in the middle of total collapse. Every week — nay, every day — some newspaper goes out of business.
Meanwhile, the remaining ones are trying to get “free” content from bloggers and citizen journalists.
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer just shut down, as did the Rocky Mountain News. The San Francisco Chronicle has the gun to its temple — could shut down any moment. And that’s just the last few days.
Huffington Post is trying to step into the breach, but they too do NOT pay contributors.
Tens of thousands (not an exaggeration) of professional writers, editors and photographers are out of works, with nowhere to turn but blogs. And yet blogs do not have the cash flow to pay them.
Either newsmaking will become a “hobbyist” sport, or will disappear altogether.
I don’t feel sorry for them. They let advocacy and bias get in the way of reporting. Blogs took up the slack and people are catching on. It’s the people who had no part in the down fall (janitors, etc) that I feel sorry for. The reporters, editors, who make thsi happen I have no sympathy.
71 | kansas Wed, Apr 1, 2009 12:12:37pm |
re: #69 Ben Hur
Funny, you never see that clarification about John Stewart, Bill Maher, Garafalo, and the other cultural “elites”….
Ed Begley Jr was on Larry King as an auto expert. Actors are experts at anything they want to be. Unless of course they are conservative or rational.
72 | Emerald Wed, Apr 1, 2009 12:23:04pm |
re: #20 zombie
There’s a market opening for straight, unbiased reporting. That market is going to grow as more print media dies. Eventually, someone is going to recognize that potential and try to fill the need.
73 | Cognito Wed, Apr 1, 2009 3:11:10pm |
Ah, yes. The ‘old media’ guy in the hip blog newsroom.
Wait — ah haha, I get it! — the joke is ‘blog newsroom’ right?
Let me know when news blogs start making money.
74 | Sharmuta Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:06:24pm |
re: #73 Cognito
Yeah- let us know when newspapers start seeing circulation going up.
75 | Cognito Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:20:51pm |
re: #74 Sharmuta
Yeah- let us know when newspapers start seeing circulation going up.
Irrelevant.
Sure it sucks for newspapers. But the question isn’t, “Who will publish newspapers?” The question is, “Who will do quality newsgathering?”
The billion dollar question, right now. And no one has the answer.