Hitchens on George Galloway’s Canadian Extravaganza

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I agree with Christopher Hitchens on this one; by making a big deal about terror supporter George Galloway’s visit, the Canadian government has shot itself in the foot and given this creep more publicity than he deserves—and Galloway is an expert at exploiting these types of situations: We don’t need government protection from controversial ideas.

The underlying premise of the First Amendment is that free expression, when protected for anyone, is thereby protected for everyone. This must apply most especially in tough cases that might raise eyebrows, such as the ACLU’s celebrated defense of the right of American Nazis to demonstrate in heavily Jewish Skokie, Ill., in the late 1970s. One of the effects of the “war on terror,” and of one of its concomitants, namely the attrition between the Muslim world and the West, has been an increasing tendency to make exceptions to First Amendment principles, either on the pretext of security or of avoiding the giving of offense. We should have learned by now that, however new the guise, these are the same old stale excuses for censorship. We might also notice that if one excuse is allowed, then all the others are made “legitimate” also. The risk of allowing all opinions by all speakers may seem great, but it is nothing compared with the risk of giving the power of censorship to any official.

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1112 comments
1 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 3:59:30pm

Hitch: The leftist I sometimes agree with.

2 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:00:02pm
3 Shug  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:01:54pm

I think all nations should refuse galloway entry.

Let him live in the airport for the rest of his life

4 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:03:00pm

In this age where many are fighting for their right to speak out against islam, we can not afford to be hypocrites. If we block the speech of those with whom we disagree, who will protect our speech?

5 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:05:19pm

Of course we could do the proper thing and simply arrest him as a terrorist. It would not be hard to get hard evidence of him as an operative for those quarters.

6 pat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:06:10pm

Canada's freedom of speech has gone AWOL

7 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:06:23pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

In this age where many are fighting for their right to speak out against islam, we can not afford to be hypocrites. If we block the speech of those with whom we disagree, who will protect our speech?

I hear you, but Galloway does not simply speak. We should jail him for his criminal acts.

8 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:06:50pm

re: #5 LudwigVanQuixote

Of course we could do the proper thing and simply arrest him as a terrorist. It would not be hard to get hard evidence of him as an operative for those quarters.

Aiding Hamas.

9 Randall Gross  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:06:51pm

This whole anti liberty bent is getting old. It's comparable to the Geert Wilders situation in Britain, there comes a point at which it must stop. It's one thing to oppose tyrannical dictators calling for deaths to enter, it's another to oppose kooks with ideas that you might disagree with. The line to free speech is when you are proposing violence.

10 marsl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:07:30pm

Giving this piece of crap more than his 15 minutes of fame is a total waist. And Galloway is a piece of..... waist.

11 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:07:41pm
But it was the announced purpose of Galloway's trip to the Gaza Strip—the delivery of a convoy of material aid to the Hamas leadership—that prompted Kenney to deny him permission to land, on the grounds that he had delivered "aid and resources to … a banned illegal terrorist organization."

Isn't this more than just free speech, however?

12 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:08:22pm

re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote

I hear you, but Galloway does not simply speak. We should jail him for his criminal acts.

That would be on the UK though, wouldn't it? Not Canada?

And of course, european countries have a very different idea of speech than we have in America. They'll block Geert Wilders from entry, but I bet they don't do a thing to Galloway. It's a damn shame.

13 pat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:09:04pm

I wonder what the Russians will skin Obama for? Like sending a 4 year old to a poker tournament.

14 loppyd  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:09:44pm

Has Galloway ever made threats against Canada or Canadian citizens? This would be a valid reason to keep him out.

15 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:09:52pm
Galloway had indeed, on a recent trip to Gaza, called for the Egyptian armed forces to overthrow the government of President Hosni Mubarak.

Just words?

16 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:09:57pm

Ezra Levant has argued that this was not a "free speech" issue. It was about Galloway campaigning for terrorists, to forward money to HAMAS. Galloway made no efforts to disguise the fact that he is intent upon raising money for HAMAS, a designated terrorist organization in Canada. Furthermore Canada is a sovereign nation; Canada has the right to refuse entry to undesirables. No non-citizen has the automatic "right of entry." (might also add that there is no First Amendment in Canada.) (There were also various quotes I could dredge up from the Federal judge's decision -- which was in agreement with the government of Canada's decision. The judge did not believe the decision was vexatious).

17 Hhar  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:10:09pm

With due respect, Hitchens gets it compeletly wrong.

Go here. This isn't about free speech.

Mr Galloway's speech is allowed in Canada. In fact, they piped it up here, live, from New York, and no one was, or should be, prosecuted. Mr Galloway's staff notified the Canadian gov't that he was coming, the gov't said there would be a legal problem, and invited him to discuss it. He failed to discuss it or behave reasonably towards the government, so the government did not revise the decision that Galloway requested. The government of Canada has done precisely nothing, outside a preliminary assessment, that adheres to therule of law, andthat law is about sovereignity (who can come and go) not about free speech (who can say what).

18 Shug  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:10:23pm

If Galloway does go to Canada, I hope they stick him on Hockey Night in Canada, and let Don Cherry rip him a new ass

19 greenmamba  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:11:18pm

The inimitable Terry Glavin rips Hitchens and the MSM on this story with actual facts.

George Galloway is what we used to call a fascist thug. But nowadays, his Canadian fan base, his megaphone-carriers and his booking agents include New Democratic Party MPs, Bloc MPs, the Council of Canadians, the Ottawa Peace Assembly and a legion of student leaders, trade unionists and “anti-war” activists.

Whatever name you want to give this phenomenon, it hasn't been getting the attention it properly deserves. It's been underway for quite some time.

We should be paying attention.

20 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:12:07pm

Of course- having the right to speak one's opinion isn't the same as the right to an audience.

21 Dainn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:12:22pm

We certainly don't need (or want) protection from ideas, especially unpopular ones. As long as there is no direct or implied harm (as in hate speech), let the stupid have a big mike and a white-hot spotlight so that they expose themselves.

Freedom of expression means having to tolerate a lot of stupid crap. Case and point: the interent.

22 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:13:00pm

re: #5 LudwigVanQuixote

Technically speaking, Galloway is not a "terrorist" -- he is, however, an aider and abettor (imo) of terrorists.

23 greenmamba  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:14:02pm

re: #17 Hhar

You beat me Hhar -sorry to repeat.

24 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:14:21pm
The underlying premise of the First Amendment is that free expression, when protected for anyone, is thereby protected for everyone.

Since when does Canada have a First Amendment - Amendment to what?

Also, Hitchens links the banning of Geert Wilders and Galloway in the same free speech box, but they are not remotely similar - polar opposite, in fact.

25 The Other Les  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:14:32pm

Jimmy Carter's worst nightmare.

[Link: attackcartoons.com...]

26 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:15:23pm

This video needs to be posted again. For Galloway this time.

27 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:17:27pm

re: #16 J.S.

(might also add that there is no First Amendment in Canada.)

That's true. It's one of the things that makes American unique in that we defend the right of people to speak even though we may disagree with what they say.

However, it's been so distorted by ignoramuses in that they think they have the right to speak anywhere. The First Amendment protects people from government censorship, and doesn't apply to the private sector.

28 tyomach  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:17:29pm

IT's not about speech, rather about material support for a terrorist organization. Galloway publicly gave money to Haniya, thus challenging every law about financing terror. He should be tried for this in court.

29 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:18:00pm

re: #17 Hhar

With due respect, Hitchens gets it compeletly wrong.

Go here. This isn't about free speech.

Mr Galloway's speech is allowed in Canada. In fact, they piped it up here, live, from New York, and no one was, or should be, prosecuted. Mr Galloway's staff notified the Canadian gov't that he was coming, the gov't said there would be a legal problem, and invited him to discuss it. He failed to discuss it or behave reasonably towards the government, so the government did not revise the decision that Galloway requested. The government of Canada has done precisely nothing, outside a preliminary assessment, that adheres to therule of law, andthat law is about sovereignity (who can come and go) not about free speech (who can say what).

I don't think Hitchens got it wrong at all. The purpose of that preliminary assessment was to determine whether Galloway would be allowed into the country, and when Galloway was informed about it, he cleverly turned it to his advantage and painted himself as a victim of suppression. It worked.

Glavin's point seems to me to be nothing more than splitting hairs.

30 jjmckay1216  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:19:34pm

re: #3 Shug

I think all nations should refuse galloway entry.

Let him live in the airport for the rest of his life

I remember that movie...Tom Hanks

31 loppyd  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:21:05pm

re: #30 jjmckay1216

I remember that movie...Tom Hanks

Did you like it?

32 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:21:09pm

Perhaps a Canadian can help- where was galloway scheduled to speak? Who gave him an invitation?

33 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:21:14pm

re: #29 Charles

I don't think Hitchens got it wrong at all. The purpose of that preliminary assessment was to determine whether Galloway would be allowed into the country, and when Galloway was informed about it, he cleverly turned it to his advantage and painted himself as a victim of suppression. It worked.

Glavin's point seems to me to be nothing more than splitting hairs.

But see my #11, which is a direct quote from the Hitchens article. If Canada has designated Hamas as a terrorist organization, and Galloway transfered money and/or materials to such organization, then they have every right to ban him from entry - and it's not on the grounds of free speech.

34 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:21:15pm
35 jjmckay1216  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:22:01pm

re: #31 loppyd

Did you like it?

it was pretty good. liked the girl that befriended him. was nice

36 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:22:30pm

re: #27 Sharmuta

You're exactly right. I was just re-reading Kent Greenawalt's "Speech, Crime, and the Uses of Language." It's written entirely from an American perspective. And there are things tolerated (under the First Amendment, which simply are not goin' work anywhere else.) (About the only thing which would have gotten Galloway jailed in the U.S. would have been an "incitement speech" with rioting immediately afterwards and as a direct result of his inflammatory speech...whereas a "mere" ideological call for doing some violence would be "protected.")

37 loppyd  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:23:10pm

re: #35 jjmckay1216

it was pretty good. liked the girl that befriended him. was nice

I fell asleep. :)

38 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:23:22pm

re: #34 buzzsawmonkey

Good Lord, man! Condemned to live on airport food? That's cruel and unusual punishment!

virtually impossible to find Beef-O-Roni in an airport...it's a disgrace

39 nyc redneck  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:23:25pm

re: #3 Shug

I think all nations should refuse galloway entry.

Let him live in the airport for the rest of his life

lol,
eating airport food.

40 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:23:58pm

Canada doesn't have a blanket right to free speech, as we do. Yep.

They do have Ezra Levant. I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed the video of his showdown with the bureaucrat lady.

It's too bad that what Galloway wants to do is intangible enough that it would be hard to be traced. Otherwise, they could let him in, follow him around, and arrest him when he does it.

41 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:24:33pm

re: #33 Russkilitlover

But see my #11, which is a direct quote from the Hitchens article. If Canada has designated Hamas as a terrorist organization, and Galloway transfered money and/or materials to such organization, then they have every right to ban him from entry - and it's not on the grounds of free speech.

Sure, they do have that right, but they were wrong to exercise it in this case. By doing so, they ended up making him look like a victim of government suppression, and played right into Galloway's hands.

42 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:24:50pm

re: #36 J.S.

I think many Americans would be shocked to learn how much their speech could and would be limited outside our borders.

43 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:24:54pm

re: #33 Russkilitlover

But see my #11, which is a direct quote from the Hitchens article. If Canada has designated Hamas as a terrorist organization, and Galloway transfered money and/or materials to such organization, then they have every right to ban him from entry - and it's not on the grounds of free speech.

Galloway would have used ANY reason he was refused entry as censorship of his speech. Evil doesn't play by the Marquis of Queenbury rules of politeness.

44 loppyd  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:25:24pm

re: #39 nyc redneck

lol,
eating airport food.

There are some decent restaurants at Logan now....

45 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:25:53pm
46 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:26:39pm

re: #43 FurryOldGuyJeans

Galloway would have used ANY reason he was refused entry as censorship of his speech. Evil doesn't play by the Marquis of Queenbury rules of politeness.

So the alternative is to just let him in? Concede to blackmail?

47 rexatosis  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:26:59pm

Canada, as a sovereign state, has the right to allow or not allow whomever they deem fit or unfit entry into their country. Galloway is a foreign national, he has no right to enter Canada without the Canadian Government's permission.

48 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:27:15pm

re: #42 Sharmuta

I think many Americans would be shocked to learn how much their speech could and would be limited outside our borders.

Don't even have to leave the country to for a crash course in that, just travel to any largish Blue city like Chicago, Seattle or New York and express even centrist ideas, right of center ideas need not apply.

49 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:27:18pm

re: #42 Sharmuta

I think many Americans would be shocked to learn how much their speech could and would be limited outside our borders.

and people make sport abusing the unwritten responsibility that goes with it...they will push it until there is a showdown, here in the US

50 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:27:35pm

re: #2 buzzsawmonkey

Galloway, however, remains a real leotard.

You know it.

51 loppyd  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:27:37pm

re: #45 buzzsawmonkey

I understand that the Loganberry jam is quite good.

ba dum dum

:)

52 Mad Mullah  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:27:39pm

I agree that all speech should be allowed, otherwise those same rules might be used against ourselves one day.

However, isn't it another matter if Galloway were to be denied entry based not on his speech but rather on his material support for terrorists, such as supplying money to Hamas, which he recently did?

53 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:27:45pm

re: #46 Russkilitlover

So the alternative is to just let him in? Concede to blackmail?

To protect YOUR right to speak your mind, yes.

54 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:27:58pm

re: #46 Russkilitlover

So the alternative is to just let him in? Concede to blackmail?

yes

55 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:28:31pm

O.T. Congressman Stevens

charges dropped.

56 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:28:33pm

re: #50 MandyManners

You know it.

I have long since learned not to click that link. ;)

57 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:28:38pm

re: #47 rexatosis

Canada, as a sovereign state, has the right to allow or not allow whomever they deem fit or unfit entry into their country. Galloway is a foreign national, he has no right to enter Canada without the Canadian Government's permission.

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with this in any way. It's a matter of PR and propaganda, and it's benefited galloway in Mr. Hitchens' opinion.

58 tradewind  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:29:14pm

They should have just let him in, and hoped that the local chapter of Al Quaeda would volunteer to run the hospitality suite.

59 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:29:34pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

In this age where many are fighting for their right to speak out against islam, we can not afford to be hypocrites. If we block the speech of those with whom we disagree, who will protect our speech?

I see it both ways. By allowing a supporter of Hamas to speak, are we not granting legitimacy to Hamas? On the other hand, the best remedy to odious speech is civilized rebuttal.

However, what if he were in Canada to attend private fund-raising meetings for Hamas?

60 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:29:54pm

re: #57 Sharmuta

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with this in any way. It's a matter of PR and propaganda, and it's benefited galloway in Mr. Hitchens' opinion.

Galloway would have benefited no matter what the outcome would have been. Evil doesn't play fair.

61 tradewind  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:30:00pm

re: #55 avanti

Thanks for nothing, Holder. Your timing sucks.... the damage was done.

62 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:30:05pm

re: #57 Sharmuta

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with this in any way. It's a matter of PR and propaganda, and it's benefited galloway in Mr. Hitchens' opinion.

Exactly!

63 Soona'  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:30:13pm

re: #34 buzzsawmonkey

Good Lord, man! Condemned to live on airport food? That's cruel and unusual punishment!

Not as horrifying as a story about someone for months having to fly coach on Southwest airlines singing for peanuts.

64 whiterasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:30:19pm

re: #32 Sharmuta

Galloway was scheduled to speak at a church (!), I forget which one, it was in Toronto.

He was invited to speak by the usual suspects, lefties, loonies and terrorist supporters.

65 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:30:29pm

re: #56 DEZes

I have long since learned not to click that link. ;)

What a douchenozzle.

66 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:30:40pm

re: #42 Sharmuta

Indeed. And, I might add, here in Canada it has grown very, very bad (and that is NOT due to "security concerns" as I laugh or anything which could be pinned on 9/11 as a response, etc.). Here it has been the ever growing sense of "political correctness", and the self-censorship which is required for *certain* groups (that would include Muslims/Islam, gays, -- frankly, immediately after 9/11, of course, the government would not want people going after Muslims, etc., so there was a concerted effort to make sure that Muslims weren't attacked, etc. -- that's all understandable -- but, this "protected" attitude has been continuing and increasing and more and more people are being caught in the net of Political Correctness...(Ezra being hauled up to an HRC is but one example.)

67 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:31:00pm

Charles -

All 'y'all are sounding like Sen. Alan Cranston in the 1940's - CONGRATULATIONS!

-S-

68 Hhar  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:31:15pm

re: #29 Charles

I don't think Hitchens got it wrong at all. The purpose of that preliminary assessment was to determine whether Galloway would be allowed into the country, and when Galloway was informed about it, he cleverly turned it to his advantage and painted himself as a victim of suppression. It worked.

Glavin's point seems to me to be nothing more than splitting hairs.

The problem is that Galloway asked. He didn't have to: as a British citizen he can visit Canada without a visa. If he hadn't asked, ,the customs and immigration officer would have probably let him right through, being unaware of what he was doing. It may well be that Galloway, media whore that he is, understood Canadian law, and wanted to turn his visit into a media circus, which (BTW) I agree was not what should have happened, and Kenney should have intervened, making the usual noises about why its important to let Canadians etc. etc..exceptions etc. etc. blah blah blah and then simply made sure that the idiot did no fundraising for anything illegal, and if he did, to take care of it differently. But the point is not that the gov't did anything, its that they didn't do anything.

Ezra Klein has it right too: its about sovereignity. The only thing any elected official of the government did was refuse to intervene on his behalf. The rest is just ordinary border security.

69 tradewind  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:31:44pm

re: #66 J.S.

Didn't Canada let some al Quaeda sympathizer immigrants in and settle them with welfare?

70 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:32:01pm

re: #61 tradewind

Thanks for nothing, Holder. Your timing sucks.... the damage was done.

Therein lies the real reason why charges were brought in the first place, to buy time and temporarily neutralize an opponent.

71 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:32:30pm

re: #65 NYCHardhat

What a douchenozzle.

Thats one way of putting it.;)

72 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:32:56pm

re: #70 FurryOldGuyJeans

Therein lies the real reason why charges were brought in the first place, to buy time and temporarily neutralize an opponent.

one of the oldest tricks in the book

73 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:33:06pm

re: #69 tradewind

Didn't Canada let some al Quaeda sympathizer immigrants in and settle them with welfare?

No that was America.

74 Abu Lahab  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:33:11pm

I think if they allowed him in, he would have been mentioned in a couple newspapers and he would have made no fuss at all. He has his idiotic audience. Now just try typing Galloway in Google news and see! This is just like banning a book, only more copies are sold after the ban.
And anyway, he is addressing his lovely crowed via webcam

75 notutopia  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:33:23pm

......an increasing tendency to make exceptions to First Amendment principles, either on the pretext of security or of avoiding the giving of offense. We should have learned by now that, however new the guise, these are the same old stale excuses for censorship.

Hitch is wise in his observations.
He's from England originally isn't he?
Perhaps his foreigner status has enabled his keen ability to spot infractions to The free speech of The First Amendment. Countries that he's traveled, that haven't such freedoms, have already fallen to censorship.
He's more apt to be keen to spot when censorship is being manipulated on the pretext of the "war on terror".

76 whiterasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:34:25pm

Galloway was making up lots of noise to get Geert Wilders banned from the UK. Now the shoe is on the other foot, he's crying.

Screw him, the media slut he is.

77 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:34:38pm

re: #68 Hhar

It may well be that Galloway, media whore that he is, understood Canadian law, and wanted to turn his visit into a media circus

And that's exactly what he got.

78 Cygnus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:34:39pm

re: #44 loppyd

There are some decent restaurants at Logan now....

Of course, any bad food there could give you the Logan's Run(s).

79 tradewind  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:34:40pm

re: #70 FurryOldGuyJeans

Yes, but temporarily my -ss. They handed his senate seat over to a democrat, which is real long term damage in my book.

80 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:35:22pm

re: #66 J.S.

J.S. -

I have a question regarding the Canadian form of Westminster Parliamentary Government. Does your PM have the "Pardon Power?" If not, The Governor-General/Crown? Seems to me that Ezra Levant would be deserving of one.

-S-

81 Seerak  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:35:44pm

Um, freedom of speech is an American thing.

Dean Steacy said so.

/sarcasm

82 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:36:47pm

In the good old days, we would have just taken someone like Galloway out behind the building to splain things to him.

83 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:36:50pm

re: #78 Cygnus

Of course, any bad food there could give you the Logan's Run(s).

That would make it Logan 2

84 tradewind  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:36:52pm

re: #73 NYCHardhat

(I thought about that)... but in this case, they were up front about who they were and what they wanted to do. This was the widow and family of a jihadi who had killed an American in Iraq.
Ours don't usually advertise until after they immigrate.

85 whiterasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:36:52pm

OT, Charles I heard you were going to be on the John Moore radio show in Toronto today. CFRB radio.

Are you planning on posting a link?

86 Voyska PVO  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:36:57pm

re: #1 NYCHardhat

Hitch: The leftist I sometimes agree with.

..whether one agrees with him or not, at least he presents his arguments sans the histrionics of most of the screamers on the left.

87 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:37:22pm

re: #85 whiterasta

OT, Charles I heard you were going to be on the John Moore radio show in Toronto today. CFRB radio.

Are you planning on posting a link?

He was already

88 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:37:24pm

re: #85 whiterasta

OT, Charles I heard you were going to be on the John Moore radio show in Toronto today. CFRB radio.

Are you planning on posting a link?

you slept through it...

89 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:37:26pm
90 kynna  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:37:54pm

The only attention GG should get is for his catsuit dance vid and it should be shown again and again and again. It should define him. Too many people take this butthead seriously.

91 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:38:08pm

re: #66 J.S.

And that's why I'm glad I'm an American. While my opinions may be offensive or insensitive to some people, I do not have to fear the government persecuting me in a HRC styled witch hunt. The worst I could expect is public condemnation, which is how it should be, imo. Of course, I'm an American, so my views of free speech are clearly coming from that perspective.

92 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:38:34pm

re: #89 buzzsawmonkey

A little conversation involving axe handles?

Nah for someone like him I think the term is "bitch slap"?

93 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:38:44pm
94 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:38:52pm

re: #69 tradewind

We've apparently done that over and over again, no doubt...(there is also the family who's reared terrorist children to fight Jihad against Americans...but they're "citizens" of Canada. One of these jihadists is in Gitmo -- all the Leftists are screaming to get him out and have him brought "home" -- his brother was fightin' Jihad and got paralyzed; of course, the mother (wearing niqab) went on CBC television and sung the glories of wagin' Jihad in the name of Allah, etc.

Canada's "citizenship" laws are in shambles -- quite ridiculous -- you can live virtually your entire life in Pakistan, etc., but if you were born here, bink, you're a Canadian citizen...(if I'm not mistaken, there are zero residency requirements for citizenship). (Same thing with all the Lebanese -- they all got citizenship to Canada, then many promptly left Canada, now reside in Lebanon. But if there's a war, then they demand that the Canadian government provide free transport to Canada...for the duration of the war, then they returnn to Lebanon.)

95 Soona'  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:38:59pm

re: #82 Nevergiveup

In the good old days, we would have just taken someone like Galloway out behind the building to splain things to him.

Amen. (Hey, Galloway. What was that you were sayin'? That's what we thought.)

96 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:39:22pm

re: #84 tradewind

(I thought about that)... but in this case, they were up front about who they were and what they wanted to do. This was the widow and family of a jihadi who had killed an American in Iraq.
Ours don't usually advertise until after they immigrate.

I'm referring to Obama giving the Gitmo 240 welfare.

97 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:39:23pm

re: #88 albusteve

Where did I miss it?

98 tradewind  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:39:24pm

re: #39 nyc redneck

I could handle living off some of the restaurants at the MSP, LAX, and MIA airports, and the clam chowder at BOS is really, really good even if you do have to sit at the counter.

99 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:39:30pm

re: #89 buzzsawmonkey

A little conversation involving axe handles?

Iron Fist takes exception to the axe handle...he prefers the sledge hammer handle...something to do with aerodynamics...he would know about that stuff

100 rexatosis  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:39:44pm

RE: #57 Sharmuta

In my opinion Sovereignty should trump PR. Canada's got to do what is in Canada's best interest regardless of how a bunch of anti-Western, pro-whomever is attacking the West "journalists" want to spin the story. This tendency to worry how the West's enemies are going to view us is how we have gotten into the PC driven close Gitmo fiasco among other problems.

101 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:39:49pm

re: #79 tradewind

Yes, but temporarily my -ss. They handed his senate seat over to a democrat, which is real long term damage in my book.

If the intent was for permanency, then the charges would not have been dropped. The effect may have long range consequences, but the intent of the charges was to get Stevens out of the way long enough to install the Dem, afterwards doesn't matter.

102 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:40:41pm

re: #97 WhiteRasta

Where did I miss it?

there was a link for it here...couple hours ago

103 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:40:47pm

re: #82 Nevergiveup

In the good old days, we would have just taken someone like Galloway out behind the building to splain things to him.

NGU -

Offering Facials (asphalt) and Shampoos (wood), I assume. In the 1940's - Churchill would have had him "behind the building" too - Facing a Firing Squad.

-S-

104 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:41:22pm

Last update - 22:42 01/04/2009

Obama tells Netanyahu: U.S. committed to Israel's security

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

INCOMING...DUCK!

105 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:41:28pm

re: #91 Sharmuta

Yep, I agree. I'm also an American...(born and raised in the States)..

106 tradewind  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:41:35pm

re: #96 NYCHardhat

Well, it hasn't happened yet, and you know whose idea that was? Dennis Blair's. The same idiot who proposed the Saudi lover for Commerce.
I always wondered why MSNBC and CNN loved to interview the guy , and now I know.

107 Simply Me  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:41:58pm

re: #29 Charles

Galvin writes:

In that letter, Immigration Program Manager Robert J. Orr politely referred Galloway to certain provisions of Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, specifically, Section 34 (1), which, among other things, cites “engaging in terrorism” as grounds to prevent a person from entering Canada. This provision concerns itself with the national security of peoples in faraway places; in this instance, with the security of the Palestinian people, and the Israeli people. In Canada, engaging in terrorism includes raising money for terrorist groups. In Canada, the death cult Hamas, the worst enemy the cause of Palestinian freedom has ever faced, is listed as a proscribed terrorist group.

Mere days before Orr wrote his letter, Galloway had delivered roughly $2 million (Cdn.) in vehicles, various goods and cash, directly to Hamas boss Ismail Haniyeh. Galloway boasted about this, and openly dared British and European authorities to charge him for breaking the sanctions against Hamas, and he went so far as to stage an event for Al Jazeera television in which he handed over a wad of cash in the equivalent of about $50,000 (Cdn.) directly to Haniyeh.

108 Shug  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:42:24pm

So really the problem here is not that somebody in Canada did the right thing and kept this [ Self Deleted] out of Canada, but that they bungled the PR.

So the solution is to
A: Let all [Self Deleted] into Canada whenever they choose
or
B: Get better PR people

109 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:42:42pm

re: #104 Nevergiveup

Last update - 22:42 01/04/2009

Obama tells Netanyahu: U.S. committed to Israel's security

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

INCOMING...DUCK!

0 is as committed to Israel's security as he is to reducing the national debt.

110 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:42:42pm

re: #94 J.S.

J.S. -

Welcome to the world. Seems like your Citizenship Law is like ours.

-S-

111 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:43:20pm

re: #109 Kosh's Shadow

0 is as committed to Israel's security as he is to reducing the national debt.

That bad, eh?

112 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:43:23pm

I'm sitting here having a beer watching "Patton". It's the scene at the end of the movie were the Ruskies are dancing and Patton looks like he is about to heave. He is about to drink to the "russian son of a bitch"

113 ConservatismNow!  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:43:28pm

re: #91 Sharmuta

That's exactly how it should be! Free speech goes both ways. One of the hardest things to do is to seperate feelings from facts. Just because you don't like what someone says does not mean that they should not have the right to say it. Like I said, sometimes it's really hard to reconcile that with someone spewing so-called "Hate Speech." Free speech includes the ability to criticize as well.

114 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:43:57pm

re: #108 Shug

So really the problem here is not that somebody in Canada did the right thing and kept this [ Self Deleted] out of Canada, but that they bungled the PR.

So the solution is to
A: Let all [Self Deleted] into Canada whenever they choose
or
B: Get better PR people

C: Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. So fuck it. Feed the monkey and let him spew his nonsense.

115 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:44:10pm

Hitchens mention of the 1st Amendment is of course not applicable to Canada. If you consider the actions of the Canadian Humans Right Commission courts in Canada you will see that the free speech we practice in the United States is subject to legal sanctions and penalties by the court.

116 Hhar  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:44:12pm

re: #108 Shug

Exactly right. The answer is B.

117 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:44:27pm

re: #110 Dr. Shalit

Reply to Self -

Talmudic actually. One knows who the Mother is and where she gave birth.

-S-

118 ConservatismNow!  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:44:51pm

re: #101 FurryOldGuyJeans

I wish it was permanent. I can't stand Ted Stevens.

119 tradewind  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:45:03pm

re: #101 FurryOldGuyJeans

The charges were dropped preemptively. There was no way that Stevens was not going to get a new trial given the prosecutorial misconduct, and Holder wanted to limit exposure to what his goons had done.

120 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:46:26pm

re: #110 Dr. Shalit

hmm..although I suspect in some matters we are even more advanced than the United States (that term "advanced" as defined by the United Nations) -- thus, the moment anybody sets foot on Canadian territory -- bingo! -- that person is granted all the rights of a Canadian citizen. (I believe the Zero may be working so as to have America follow this UN crap).

121 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:46:34pm
122 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:47:28pm

re: #120 J.S.

hmm..although I suspect in some matters we are even more advanced than the United States (that term "advanced" as defined by the United Nations) -- thus, the moment anybody sets foot on Canadian territory -- bingo! -- that person is granted all the rights of a Canadian citizen. (I believe the Zero may be working so as to have America follow this UN crap).

I hope your not trying to cheer me up?

123 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:47:42pm

re: #121 buzzsawmonkey

In fairness, Stevens was indicted prior to the election, so they weren't Holder's goons at that time.

Beat me to it.

124 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:47:57pm

re: #121 buzzsawmonkey

In fairness, Stevens was indicted prior to the election, so they weren't Holder's goons at that time.

Exactly. If anything this action by Holder could be seen as a veiled criticism of the previous administration.

125 Abu Lahab  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:48:24pm

Sharmuta, you were asking about who organized this tour for Galloway,
Look at this irony:
Galloway tour organizers say speaking events are ready to proceed as planned
Now if you google this guy's name "Laith Marouf", you find this article about him on
Here is a quote about him:

Laith Marouf, a former Concordia Student Union vice president, is an activist for the Palestinian cause who also appeared in the film. Marouf seemed to feel justified in preventing anyone with whom he disagrees to speak. According to Globe and Mail, Concordia was considering bringing Natan Sharansky to the campus and Marouf told the paper that "we will shut down Sharansky like we shut down Netanyahu" (Jan. 21, 2003).


Now they are complaining about Galloway's ban!

126 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:48:30pm

re: #121 buzzsawmonkey

In fairness, Stevens was indicted prior to the election, so they weren't Holder's goons at that time.

Now lets not let the true facts get in the way of a good conspiracy.

127 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:48:58pm

re: #100 rexatosis

Ah- don't take me wrong. I was merely trying to point out that I don't believe Hitch was saying Canada doesn't have the right to enforce its border. I think Hitch raised some fair points worthy of considering, but he didn't say Canada or any other nation has no right to enforce their border as they see fit. His perspective is free speech in this article not sovereignty issues, so we are discussing apples to oranges.

128 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:49:10pm
129 Cygnus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:49:27pm

re: #83 DEZes

That would make it Logan 2

"There is no Sanctuary - only Pepto-Bismol."

130 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:50:02pm

these fucking federal govt's dwiddle and dawddle and put these tough sounding laws on the books and people vote for these tough guys then they turn a blind eye to the very people the laws were written to control...CAIR runs around like they own the joint knowing they won't be shut down....this terrorist symp tools the Canadians and they do nothing....what a bunch of whimps...follow the money...someone is getting greased

131 Abu Lahab  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:50:08pm

There is even an LGF post with that guy's name in it
This is the organizer of Galloway's tour

132 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:50:16pm

re: #120 J.S.

J.S. -

Anyone in US territory is per se a "US Person" - i.e. they are here. Is Canada the same? Just wondering.

-S-

133 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:50:29pm

re: #128 buzzsawmonkey

Also damage control, simply because he doesn't want those people still in his department to look like stumblebums in public, and have to go through a wholesale firing and replacement.

If they were fired they would then be available to work in the Obama administration.

134 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:50:48pm

Defense Department Designs 'Baby MRAP' for War in Afghanistan

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I wanna git me one of them!

135 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:51:11pm

re: #53 FurryOldGuyJeans

re: #54 albusteve

But again, it's not about speech. He gave material support directly to the leader of Hamas - in Gaza. Canada has recognized Hamas as a banned terrorist group.

If a foreign citizen hung about with Osama and went on TV handing him a big check and then wanted to come to the US, would denying him entry be inhibiting his free speech?

136 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:51:48pm
137 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:51:55pm

re: #117 Dr. Shalit

Actually, there's the "jus sanguinis" (citizen due to birth -- that would include the States, Israel, Italy, etc. NOT Canada, though) and "jus soli" (citizenship due to soil or place/location of birth) that's Canada.

138 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:52:30pm

re: #135 Russkilitlover

But is galloway subject to Canadian law, or do authorities in the UK need to press charges?

139 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:52:39pm

re: #118 ConservatismNow!

I wish it was permanent. I can't stand Ted Stevens.

Me too.

140 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:52:41pm

re: #134 Nevergiveup

Defense Department Designs 'Baby MRAP' for War in Afghanistan

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I wanna git me one of them!

I had trouble seeing it, good camouflage.

141 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:53:01pm

re: #135 Russkilitlover

re: #54 albusteve

But again, it's not about speech. He gave material support directly to the leader of Hamas - in Gaza. Canada has recognized Hamas as a banned terrorist group.

If a foreign citizen hung about with Osama and went on TV handing him a big check and then wanted to come to the US, would denying him entry be inhibiting his free speech?

he is either a stooge for Hamas or he isn't...enforce the fucking law...problem solved

142 ConservatismNow!  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:53:16pm

re: #139 NYCHardhat

Me too.

Wait. What?

143 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:53:35pm

re: #121 buzzsawmonkey

In fairness, Stevens was indicted prior to the election, so they weren't Holder's goons at that time.

I don't know so this is an honest question. What was the political leaning of the specific individuals involved? Were they government careerists with the usual leftist leanings?

144 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:53:57pm

re: #132 Dr. Shalit

Yes, anyone born in Canada will be considered a Canadian citizen. (due to location -- not due to "mother was a Canadian").

145 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:54:18pm

re: #142 ConservatismNow!

Wait. What?

Just kidding. thats Ted Danson. LOL

146 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:54:24pm

re: #143 Aviator

I don't know so this is an honest question. What was the political leaning of the specific individuals involved? Were they government careerists with the usual leftist leanings?

Didn't Palin push this investigation?

147 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:54:29pm
148 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:54:40pm

re: #137 J.S.

J.S. -

Thanx - and Please 'splain further the difference in English or Francais.

-S-

149 ConservatismNow!  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:54:42pm

re: #145 NYCHardhat

You had me rechecking my post to make sure I said Ted Stevens

150 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:55:08pm

re: #138 Sharmuta

But is galloway subject to Canadian law, or do authorities in the UK need to press charges?

Canada probably can't prosecute him, but they can deny him entry into Canada.

151 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:55:26pm
152 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:55:30pm

HARTFORD, Conn. -- Connecticut's men's basketball program showed a profit of just under $6.3 million during the 2008 fiscal year, nearly four times what the school is paying head coach Jim Calhoun.

The program earned $14.07 million in revenue during the year and had $7.8 million in expenses, according to the state Office of Legislative Research. That's a profit margin of just under 45 percent.

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

I'm not trying to defend the coach or the excesses of big time college sports, but that pays for alot of chemistry professors.

153 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:55:53pm

re: #149 ConservatismNow!

You had me rechecking my post to make sure I said Ted Stevens

I'm feeling stupid and drunk. My adolescent humor.

154 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:56:15pm

re: #146 Walter L. Newton

Didn't Palin push this investigation?

I don't think so but she sure was no fan of Stevens and did ask him to step down.

155 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:56:28pm

re: #139 NYCHardhat

Me too.

Ted Danson and Whoopi Goldburg, There's a nightmare for ya.

156 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:56:42pm

re: #150 Russkilitlover

Canada probably can't prosecute him, but they can deny him entry into Canada.

why not?....because he is a UK citizen?...bullshit, that's no way to win the WOT

157 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:56:54pm

re: #155 DEZes

Ted Danson and Whoopi Goldburg, There's a nightmare for ya.

Libs. *shudder*

158 Joan Not of Arc  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:57:33pm

I'm going to get in trouble for this but...
I don't think Galloway should be given a platform on which to speak. This is a far cry from being allowed to speak. Galloway is to Hamas what Michael Moore is to other idiots. Galloway, whether let in or not, would have blabbed on about his love for Hamas and raised funds for them. Galloway may very well gush poetic about how Hamas is fighting the good fight but no way in hell should we be helping him give ear or funds to an organisation which causes the deaths of innocent people.
Just my thoughts.

159 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:57:35pm

re: #155 DEZes

Ted Danson and Whoopi Goldburg, There's a nightmare for ya.

They were in a movie together--forgot it's name. But they thought he was the sperm donor for her daughter I think?

160 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:58:32pm

re: #159 Nevergiveup

They were in a movie together--forgot it's name. But they thought he was the sperm donor for her daughter I think?

Made in America.

AKA: The Obama electioneering

161 Soona'  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:58:38pm

re: #152 Nevergiveup

HARTFORD, Conn. -- Connecticut's men's basketball program showed a profit of just under $6.3 million during the 2008 fiscal year, nearly four times what the school is paying head coach Jim Calhoun.

The program earned $14.07 million in revenue during the year and had $7.8 million in expenses, according to the state Office of Legislative Research. That's a profit margin of just under 45 percent.

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

I'm not trying to defend the coach or the excesses of big time college sports, but that pays for alot of chemistry professors.

Or one "Intro to History of the UN" professor.

162 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:58:42pm

re: #159 Nevergiveup

They were in a movie together--forgot it's name. But they thought he was the sperm donor for her daughter I think?

They were a couple for quite a while IIRC. Ick.

163 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:59:24pm

re: #159 Nevergiveup

They were in a movie together--forgot it's name. But they thought he was the sperm donor for her daughter I think?

Yeah, Dont remember the movies name, nor do I care to.
It came out when they were an item. *ACK*

164 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:59:25pm

re: #107 Simply Me

I'm well aware of who Galloway is, and what he stands for, and I had a post at LGF with a picture of him handing the money over to Hamas. Maybe you should search LGF to see what I've written about this terror supporting creep, before lecturing me about what he's done. I didn't write this post because I have sympathy for the bastard.

That has no bearing on whether the Canadian government shot themselves in the foot by denying him a visa.

165 ConservatismNow!  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:59:35pm

re: #159 Nevergiveup

They were in a movie together--forgot it's name. But they thought he was the sperm donor for her daughter I think?

Remember when Whoopi Goldberg was funny? No? Me neither.

166 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:59:58pm

re: #146 Walter L. Newton

Didn't Palin push this investigation?

I don't recall that. I think she was in favor of him not running after the conviction.

167 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 4:59:58pm
168 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:00:01pm

re: #159 Nevergiveup

They were in a movie together--forgot it's name. But they thought he was the sperm donor for her daughter I think?

Whoopie Goldberg claimed that she has had 9 abortions. My only question is, she got 9 guys to do her? Or one guy to to her 9 times?

169 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:00:17pm

re: #148 Dr. Shalit

Actually, that subject as to who's allowed into Canada as an immigrant and as a "refugee" -- that is so complicated and complex you'd have to be an immigration lawyer working in that field....(Quebec -- historically -- can make certain "demands" that X number of people who speak French be given preferential treatment by the Canadian Federal government so as to get them into Canada...that's why there are lots of Lebanese and Algerians in Quebec...they're French speakers...But I believe some of this has changed over the years, and I really haven't kept track of all the changes...although Jason Kenney has noted, as have some others, that Islamists were appointed by the Liberal Party to the Refugee Boards...)

170 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:00:20pm

re: #135 Russkilitlover

re: #54 albusteve

But again, it's not about speech. He gave material support directly to the leader of Hamas - in Gaza. Canada has recognized Hamas as a banned terrorist group.

If a foreign citizen hung about with Osama and went on TV handing him a big check and then wanted to come to the US, would denying him entry be inhibiting his free speech?

We (the US) have let foreign nationals who ARE terrorists into the country before, and will most likely do so in the future.As repugnant as I feel Galloway is, to censor him is give his views heightened media scrutiny more so than a simple speech would provide.

171 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:00:36pm

re: #156 albusteve

why not?....because he is a UK citizen?...bullshit, that's no way to win the WOT

Well maybe they can, I don't know. But they denied him entry for a specific act of material support of Hamas. They can certainly do that. Hitchens somehow took that off on a free speech tangent and is hand wringing that Canada somehow gave Galloway a "win." I'm arguing that they are two completely different things.

172 tradewind  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:00:43pm

re: #119 tradewind

True, I forgot about that. Substitute ' what Justice had done'.

173 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:00:45pm

re: #165 ConservatismNow!

Remember when Whoopi Goldberg was funny? No? Me neither.

I thought she was funny when she was jewish...ah never mind.

174 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:01:19pm

re: #168 Alouette

Whoopie Goldberg claimed that she has had 9 abortions. My only question is, she got 9 guys to do her? Or one guy to to her 9 times?

Trash.

175 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:01:29pm

re: #147 buzzsawmonkey

Huh? They are already working in the Obama administration. The prosecutors who blew the Stevens case were Justice Department people.

I think that Holder has the bureaucrat's revulsion against axing people on the grounds that this might shine a light on the workings of the Justice Department that he now heads. Better to sweep the whole thing under the rug.

I was implying being cabinet members, buzz. You had to go and ruin the joke with facts. FIE! ;)

176 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:01:32pm

re: #168 Alouette

Whoopie Goldberg claimed that she has had 9 abortions. My only question is, she got 9 guys to do her? Or one guy to to her 9 times?

Either way, that's just sad.

177 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:02:01pm

re: #153 NYCHardhat

I'm feeling stupid and drunk. My adolescent humor.

NYCHardhat -

From everything I see, Sen. Stevens was mildly corrupt, more exactly a bit venal. We have many here in NJ who are the same, AND? My question IS - why did this case start under the BUSH43 DoJ? Perhaps Bush 43 was NOT as corrupt as advertised?, Heaven forfend?

-S-

178 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:02:05pm
179 Soona'  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:02:14pm

re: #167 buzzsawmonkey

Speaking of travel, NPR mentioned this morning that there are bills in both houses of Congress to lift the travel embargo to Cuba.

Apparently an influx of American tourists is supposed to counteract the influence of Castro.

I'm really torn on this subject. I don't know.

180 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:02:19pm

re: #168 Alouette

Whoopie Goldberg claimed that she has had 9 abortions. My only question is, she got 9 guys to do her? Or one guy to to her 9 times?

How can any man get that damned drunk?

181 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:03:10pm

re: #180 DEZes

How can any man get that damned drunk?

I'm almost there. However, I'm kinda attracted to the hole in the wall over Whoopi.

182 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:03:20pm
183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:03:23pm

re: #177 Dr. Shalit

Made 60, dinnit?

184 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:03:27pm

re: #171 Russkilitlover

Well maybe they can, I don't know. But they denied him entry for a specific act of material support of Hamas. They can certainly do that. Hitchens somehow took that off on a free speech tangent and is hand wringing that Canada somehow gave Galloway a "win." I'm arguing that they are two completely different things.

all this splitting hairs bullshit makes my head spin...he's a bag man for Hamas and should be prosecuted for it...these people are killers, this is not AmIdol for gods sake...I'm am proudly NOT politically correct

185 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:03:33pm

re: #179 Soona'

I'm really torn on this subject. I don't know.

From what I have read, Americans going there will not find the Hotels all that appealing by our standards. But I do understand it is cheap.

186 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:03:47pm

re: #181 NYCHardhat

I'm almost there. However, I'm kinda attracted to the hole in the wall over Whoopi.

Oh glory. ;)

187 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:03:57pm

re: #177 Dr. Shalit

NYCHardhat -

From everything I see, Sen. Stevens was mildly corrupt, more exactly a bit venal. We have many here in NJ who are the same, AND? My question IS - why did this case start under the BUSH43 DoJ? Perhaps Bush 43 was NOT as corrupt as advertised?, Heaven forfend?

-S-

I live in NJ and I hate Corzine.

188 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:04:06pm

re: #180 DEZes

How can any man get that damned drunk?

I can, but i'd pass out way before demeaning myself like that.

189 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:04:12pm

re: #168 Alouette

Whoopie Goldberg claimed that she has had 9 abortions. My only question is, she got 9 guys to do her? Or one guy to to her 9 times?

Ted Danson had a "thing" for Whoopi, and reportedly he is a lot like his Sam Malone character, the womanizing bar owner in Cheers.

190 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:04:56pm

re: #178 buzzsawmonkey

Sorry, it went right by me. But I'm a little slugbrained at the moment.

No, you were right, I was in the wrong. :)

191 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:05:06pm

re: #187 NYCHardhat

I live in NJ and I hate Corzine.

Me too, maybe we should make up shirts that say that?

192 Soona'  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:05:10pm

re: #185 Nevergiveup

From what I have read, Americans going there will not find the Hotels all that appealing by our standards. But I do understand it is cheap.

And the scuba-diving, fabulous.

193 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:05:10pm

re: #189 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ted Danson had a "thing" for Whoopi, and reportedly he is a lot like his Sam Malone character, the womanizing bar owner in Cheers.

Women go for the douchebags.

194 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:05:17pm

re: #188 Nevergiveup

I can, but i'd pass out way before demeaning myself like that.

Getting to drunk to perform would be a blessing in this case. ;)

195 alegrias  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:05:20pm

re: #167 buzzsawmonkey

Speaking of travel, NPR mentioned this morning that there are bills in both houses of Congress to lift the travel embargo to Cuba.

Apparently an influx of American tourists is supposed to counteract the influence of Castro.

* * * *
Thousands of Europeans visiting Cuba's gulag and buying sex from the "Gineteras" (female horse jockey? some kinda slang for slut) don't seem to have "relaxed" Castro Brothers' grips on the island.

196 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:05:28pm

re: #191 Nevergiveup

Me too, maybe we should make up shirts that say that?

I'm down.

197 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:05:57pm
198 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:06:17pm

re: #194 DEZes

Getting to drunk to perform would be a blessing in this case. ;)

What's the blessing for being with Woopi?

199 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:06:34pm

re: #184 albusteve

all this splitting hairs bullshit makes my head spin...he's a bag man for Hamas and should be prosecuted for it...these people are killers, this is not AmIdol for gods sake...I'm am proudly NOT politically correct

Well then you and I agree. Although I don't think Britain will prosecute, they have too much of a tinderbox of Muslim extremists in their country and I don't know anything about Canadian law apropos prosecuting a British citizen.

200 ConservatismNow!  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:06:44pm

re: #193 NYCHardhat

Women go for the douchebags.

which one is the woman?

201 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:06:46pm

re: #198 Nevergiveup

What's the blessing for being with Woopi?

passing out!

202 ziggyelman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:06:50pm

Lou Dobbs tore Barney Frank a new one on his show, around the half hour mark. Frank CANNOT STAND anyone to criticize him, or Chris Dodd. He's on for about 8 minutes. They rerun that show at 9 PM EST, on headline news...they may rerun it again at 11 or 12 pm...

203 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:06:54pm

re: #185 Nevergiveup

From what I have read, Americans going there will not find the Hotels all that appealing by our standards. But I do understand it is cheap.

quarantining Cuba is a bad joke....it smacks of hypocricy beyond words...the State Dept has no right to tell people where they can or can't go, certainly as they let the Red Chinese fuck then every day

204 Pietr  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:07:15pm

re: #161 Soona'

OT....I posted this for you, last thread:


re: #1095 Pietr

Sounds like you want 1 of the old British side by sides; can't remember what they're called, but they're hand made and CANNOT take modern powder loads-you have to use black powder shells......Iron Fist, or any other gun afficiando/lover/expert could probably do a better explanation.....Purdy shotgun?

The guns had Damascus twist barrels.....and it seems they're still in business.....


[Link: www.purdey.com...]

205 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:07:55pm

re: #200 ConservatismNow!

which one is the woman?

Ted Danson.

206 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:08:04pm

re: #198 Nevergiveup

What's the blessing for being with Woopi?

It is all an upgrade from there for the rest of your life.

207 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:08:08pm

re: #201 DEZes

passing out!

Whammo!

208 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:08:14pm

re: #201 DEZes

passing out!

Nah-I set that one up for ya:

May G-D bless the Woopi ( Tzar) and keep her (Him) far away from me (us).

209 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:08:22pm

re: #193 NYCHardhat

Women go for the douchebags.

None I have ever run across seem to do that, otherwise I might not be a "lonely" bachelor. ;)

210 monkeytime  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:08:33pm

re: #198 Nevergiveup

What's the blessing for being with Woopi?

That your not with Joy Bahear.

211 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:08:38pm

re: #168 Alouette

Whoopie Goldberg claimed that she has had 9 abortions. My only question is, she got 9 guys to do her? Or one guy to to her 9 times?

If guys only managed to pull beauties while on the prowl, there would be no stories of "baggers" and "double baggers." Thinking with the little head has never been the way to get good results.

212 Soona'  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:08:42pm

re: #198 Nevergiveup

What's the blessing for being with Woopi?

Being able to tell her to shut the fuck up to her face.

213 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:09:12pm

OK, I give up. I have searched the links but can find no reference of our leader's interview on the John Moore show.

Could some kind soul please post a link?

Thanks!

214 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:09:25pm

re: #208 Nevergiveup

Nah-I set that one up for ya:

May G-D bless the Woopi ( Tzar) and keep her (Him) far away from me (us).

Good Sabbath prayer, Rabbi! ;)

215 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:09:57pm

re: #213 WhiteRasta

OK, I give up. I have searched the links but can find no reference of our leader's interview on the John Moore show.

Could some kind soul please post a link?

Thanks!

the radio link was on the previous thread bro

216 Simply Me  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:10:03pm

re: #164 Charles

Hi Charles,

I wasn't lecturing you. That was all a quotation from the other website. And I know you know better than me all about Galloway. I'm sorry I wasn't clear on that.

My purpose in providing that material was to emphasize that this was not about free speech but about aiding and abetting terrorists.

I think we (and Hitchens) make a mistake when we buy into their claim that this is about free speech. We should be clearly emphasizing the distinction between speech and behavior.

P.S. I love you and your blog.

217 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:10:10pm

re: #202 ziggyelman

Lou Dobbs tore Barney Frank a new one on his show, around the half hour mark. Frank CANNOT STAND anyone to criticize him, or Chris Dodd. He's on for about 8 minutes. They rerun that show at 9 PM EST, on headline news...they may rerun it again at 11 or 12 pm...

Why is it that Barney always talks like he has something in his mouth?

218 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:10:12pm

re: #179 Soona'

I'm really torn on this subject. I don't know.

I like the idea. Even when I was at Gitmo years ago, the Cuban workers that came through the gate every day were mini ambassadors for capitalism when they went home.

219 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:10:14pm

If you're an American with a DUI they won't let you into Canada. It happens to Minnesotans on a regular basis.

/they're really fussy about who they let in

220 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:10:31pm

re: #212 Soona'

Being able to tell her to shut the fuck up to her face.

There is a joke there, but I ain't going there> Glory be.

221 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:10:31pm

re: #208 Nevergiveup

Nah-I set that one up for ya:

May G-D bless the Woopi ( Tzar) and keep her (Him) far away from me (us).

True.
If I had my choice between laying with Whoopi and eating a live frog, the frog wouldnt stand a chance.

222 Shug  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:10:45pm

re: #202 ziggyelman

Lou Dobbs tore Barney Frank a new one on his show, around the half hour mark. Frank CANNOT STAND anyone to criticize him, or Chris Dodd. He's on for about 8 minutes. They rerun that show at 9 PM EST, on headline news...they may rerun it again at 11 or 12 pm...


not gonna go there

223 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:10:48pm

re: #213 WhiteRasta

OK, I give up. I have searched the links but can find no reference of our leader's interview on the John Moore show.

Could some kind soul please post a link?

Thanks!

It was a link to the live broadcast. I don't know if the broadcast is up on the website yet as a mp3 or podcast.

224 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:10:54pm
225 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:11:03pm

re: #217 Aviator

Why is it that Barney always talks like he has something in his mouth?

Are you sure you really want an answer to that? You do know that Barney is openly gay, don't ya?

226 Soona'  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:11:18pm

re: #204 Pietr

OT....I posted this for you, last thread:


re: #1095 Pietr


The guns had Damascus twist barrels.....and it seems they're still in business.....


[Link: www.purdey.com...]

I've seen them at gun shows. You know, the old west stage-coach driver type sawed-off.

227 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:11:29pm

re: #219 Killian Bundy

If you're an American with a DUI they won't let you into Canada. It happens to Minnesotans on a regular basis.

/they're really fussy about who they let in

So, about half the state can't get into Canada?

228 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:11:36pm
229 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:11:49pm

re: #225 FurryOldGuyJeans

Guess I forgot this.
/

230 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:11:53pm

re: #215 albusteve

Thanks!

231 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:12:01pm

free speech is the best way to learn who the morons are

232 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:12:14pm

re: #227 Walter L. Newton

So, about half the state can't get into Canada?

You're thinking Wisconsin.

233 alegrias  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:12:17pm

re: #217 Aviator

Why is it that Barney always talks like he has something in his mouth?

* * * *
Barney Frank's sister sounds almost the same. It's either learned or a dental or lingual speech issue. Perhaps a dentist or speech therapist can weigh in.

Small children sometimes speak that way.

234 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:12:24pm

re: #226 Soona'

I've seen them at gun shows. You know, the old west stage-coach driver type sawed-off.

coach guns are very popular again...and cheap in most cases...I want one

235 Wilderstad  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:12:30pm

More about Galloway and Canadian Gov't Action:

This Is Not A Story About Free Speech. This Is Not A Story About National Security.
[Link: transmontanus.blogspot.com...]

236 solomonpanting  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:13:04pm

re: #224 NYCHardhat

WTF?

Eight of the nine patients have drug abuse problems, seven were diagnosed with mental health issues and three were homeless...

What more can one say?

237 alegrias  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:13:18pm

re: #203 albusteve

quarantining Cuba is a bad joke....it smacks of hypocricy beyond words...the State Dept has no right to tell people where they can or can't go, certainly as they let the Red Chinese fuck then every day

* * *
You have a point. Chinese threaten us monetarily & militarily & could poison our pets if they wanted to.

238 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:13:35pm

re: #236 solomonpanting

What more can one say?

and we need social medicine?

239 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:14:02pm

re: #236 solomonpanting

What more can one say?

Wanna bet this gets used as a wedge for socialized medicine?

240 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:14:16pm

Now "Midway" is on AMC Channel. Gee I hope this battle still works out well for us with Obama in the WH?

241 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:14:22pm

re: #227 Walter L. Newton

So, about half the state can't get into Canada?

/you'd think so judging by the frequency the issue pops up on the legal listserves I subscribe to, people just looking to go fishing across the border are regularly turned away for driving offenses

242 The Mongoose  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:14:35pm

I think what concerns me as a Canadian is that if you let Galloway in after he funded terrorists, you open the door to allegations of racism every time a terror supporter who is not white is refused entry.

I agree vermin like Galloway should be allowed to speak, on principle. But letting him in makes it very difficult to legitimately keep other Hamas terrorists out.

Tough one for Canada either way.

243 Soona'  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:14:36pm

re: #234 albusteve

coach guns are very popular again...and cheap in most cases...I want one

They are heavier than I thought they'd be.

244 alegrias  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:16:01pm

Whoa,
O'Reilly says Congress will investigate ACORN over that New York Times cover up of allegations they spiked a story about ACORN voter shenanigans.

The bad news, John Conyers (D-Michigan) would head the investigation.

245 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:16:28pm

re: #238 NYCHardhat

and we need social medicine?

Almost to 2000 on the karma, come on you can do it. ;)

246 ziggyelman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:16:30pm

re: #210 monkeytime

That your not with Joy Bahear.

Her parents clearly had a sense of humor when they gave her that first name. And yes, Whoopi does seem a step up from Joy.

247 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:16:30pm

re: #244 alegrias

Whoa,
O'Reilly says Congress will investigate ACORN over that New York Times cover up of allegations they spiked a story about ACORN voter shenanigans.

The bad news, John Conyers (D-Michigan) would head the investigation.

under the rug it goes.

248 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:16:33pm

re: #234 albusteve

coach guns are very popular again...and cheap in most cases...I want one

I'd be satisfied with a Ruger Ranch Rifle...

249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:16:34pm

re: #237 alegrias

* * *
You have a point. Chinese threaten us monetarily & militarily & could poison our pets again if they wanted to.

Took a teeny liberty there.

250 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:16:37pm

re: #229 Aviator

Guess I forgot this.
/

LOL
You are posting on the same thread as Avanti..So I have to be very careful here...
Hi..Hope today finds you well! What up?

251 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:16:46pm

re: #228 taxfreekiller

#55
avanti

Senator Stevens

Your age did doth betray you, some would think a person of long experience would have used the word Senator Stevens enough times to get used to that, IMO

You lost me, I thought senators were Congressmen.

252 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:16:46pm

re: #223 Walter L. Newton

The link seems to have gone. I'll try get it on the website, tomorrow.

John Moore is kinda fun, except when he descends into Bush Derangement Syndrome.

253 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:16:52pm

re: #243 Soona'

They are heavier than I thought they'd be.

twin barrels...they will stop any human that threatens you...it takes a shop Vac to clean up whats left...jus sayin

254 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:16:58pm

Is anyone watching FOX? Dick Morris is speaking to O'Reilly about Acorn and violations that the NYT knew about and killed the story.

255 solomonpanting  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:17:10pm

re: #239 FurryOldGuyJeans

Wanna bet this gets used as a wedge for socialized medicine?

Hopefully, this would be used as an argument against, but I'm not holding my breath.

256 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:17:18pm

re: #245 DEZes

Almost to 2000 on the karma, come on you can do it. ;)

You've pulled away. You are the Tony Gwynn blogger.

257 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:17:42pm

re: #240 Nevergiveup

Now "Midway" is on AMC Channel. Gee I hope this battle still works out well for us with Obama in the WH?

Patton is on here on the West Coast, Midway is having the carriers steaming there for at least a couple of hours still.

258 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:17:44pm

re: #254 summergurl

Is anyone watching FOX? Dick Morris is speaking to O'Reilly about Acorn and violations that the NYT knew about and killed the story.

Let's give them a bailout!

259 stevieray  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:18:30pm

Good evening, Honcos!

I had a really busy day today... haven't had a chance to check out the news yet. Can anybody tell me... did Obama really give the Queen of England an iPod? Or was that just an April Fool's Day joke press release?

260 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:18:36pm

re: #237 alegrias

* * *
You have a point. Chinese threaten us monetarily & militarily & could poison our pets if they wanted to.

I have pissed about this for decades...fuck the feds...I am an American and I will go where ever I want...we are not at war with Cuba

261 Soona'  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:18:41pm

re: #253 albusteve

twin barrels...they will stop any human that threatens you...it takes a shop Vac to clean up whats left...jus sayin

That's what I'm talkn' about. ;)

262 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:18:47pm

re: #255 solomonpanting

Hopefully, this would be used as an argument against, but I'm not holding my breath.

Hold your breath waiting for that and all your medical needs will become moot.

263 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:18:55pm

re: #256 NYCHardhat

You've pulled away. You are the Tony Gwynn blogger.

Heh, your there.

264 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:19:16pm

re: #251 avanti

You lost me, I thought senators were Congressmen.

figures

265 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:19:17pm
266 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:19:19pm

re: #259 stevieray

Wait! I thought she gave him one...

267 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:19:27pm

re: #251 avanti

You lost me, I thought senators were Congressmen.

I always thought Senators were members of Congress..But not Congressmen..
They are *Senators*
Am I wrong?
/What are the odds..call Vegas

268 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:19:28pm

re: #258 Bloodnok

Let's give them a bailout!

Lets not buy their product and hope they start using the remaining brain cells to point out the misteps of the Obamunism train.

269 Abu Lahab  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:19:31pm

re: #256 NYCHardhat

Now your Karma crossed 2000 , it needed only a small push.

270 Soona'  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:19:52pm

re: #248 Fenway_Nation

I'd be satisfied with a Ruger Ranch Rifle...

Do you mean a Mini-14?

271 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:20:07pm

Thanks lizards.

272 Pietr  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:20:19pm

re: #248 Fenway_Nation

I'd be satisfied with a Ruger Ranch Rifle...

I'd like a modern version of the Colt repeating shotgun, like Wyatt Earp and Bat Masterson used.....(hint, it was a revolving magazine/cylinder shotgun).....

273 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:20:19pm

re: #250 HoosierHoops

LOL
You are posting on the same thread as Avanti..So I have to be very careful here...
Hi..Hope today finds you well! What up?

Doing well. Watching Midway. Yourself?

274 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:20:50pm

re: #264 albusteve

figures

he is correct; Congress is both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

275 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:20:54pm

re: #267 HoosierHoops

I always thought Senators were members of Congress..But not Congressmen..
They are *Senators*
Am I wrong?
/What are the odds..call Vegas

I always understood that technically "Congress" was both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

276 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:20:55pm

re: #268 NYCHardhat

Lets not buy their product and hope they start using the remaining brain cells to point out the misteps of the Obamunism train.

Won't someone please think of the birdcages?

277 ziggyelman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:21:01pm

re: #217 Aviator

Why is it that Barney always talks like he has something in his mouth?

A big fan of Sylvester the Cat?

278 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:21:17pm

re: #270 Soona'

Do you mean a Mini-14?

a sweet little do it all...nice piece

279 solomonpanting  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:21:24pm

re: #262 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hold your breath waiting for that and all your medical needs will become moot.

Yeah. But will the gubmint pay for my funeral?

280 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:21:26pm

re: #274 FurryOldGuyJeans

he is correct; Congress is both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

Beat me by 4 seconds

281 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:21:39pm

re: #271 NYCHardhat

Thanks lizards.

;)

282 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:21:50pm

re: #221 DEZes

True.
If I had my choice between laying with Whoopi and eating a live frog, the frog wouldnt stand a chance.

*Cough....Choke*.........sorry, I had a frog in my throat......

283 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:22:06pm

re: #279 solomonpanting

Yeah. But will the gubmint pay for my funeral?

Does Potters Field count?

284 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:22:28pm

re: #259 stevieray

Good evening, Honcos!

I had a really busy day today... haven't had a chance to check out the news yet. Can anybody tell me... did Obama really give the Queen of England an iPod? Or was that just an April Fool's Day joke press release?

True, and a rare book.

ipod

285 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:22:32pm

re: #274 FurryOldGuyJeans

he is correct; Congress is both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

no, Stevens is not a Congressman...the term does not define individuals rather the collective

286 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:22:38pm

re: #282 LGoPs

*Cough....Choke*.........sorry, I had a frog in my throat......

Spit that out, do you know where thats been.

287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:22:42pm

Got a dirty comment to make. Am using self control.

288 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:00pm

John Demjanjuk asks US authorities to halt his deportation in Nazi case

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

He is still here?

289 fasttimes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:10pm

It's not a free speech issue; this was amply illustrated by a lack of blacking out or censoring the live-on-national-tv that Galloway gave that same night. It's an admissibility issue; Section 34 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (our Canadian immigration legislation) specifically makes someone who aids and assists terrorists inadmissible (as well as the terrorists themselves, of course). That's where Georgie Porgy fits in.

Of course, since GWB came up to give a talk in Calgary a few weeks back, the moonbats have been going ballistic with the usual "you let in Bush and he's a terrorist..." etc etc etc

290 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:10pm
291 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:12pm

re: #259 stevieray

Good evening, Honcos!

I had a really busy day today... haven't had a chance to check out the news yet. Can anybody tell me... did Obama really give the Queen of England an iPod? Or was that just an April Fool's Day joke press release?

Yes he did and reportedly it has speeches of his on it.

292 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:13pm

re: #287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Got a dirty comment to make. Am using self control.

Just say it. Freedom of speech.

293 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:15pm

re: #251 avanti

You lost me, I thought senators were Congressmen.


Let's hope it's its an April Fool's joke and you're not an April Fool.

294 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:16pm

re: #287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Got a dirty comment to make. Am using self control.

Why start now?

295 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:32pm

re: #277 ziggyelman

A big fan of Sylvester the Cat?

thufferin' thuckatash

296 alegrias  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:38pm

re: #265 taxfreekiller

* * * *
But TFK, community organizing is what ACORN does! Why shouldn't President Obama be expert at it? He is proud of it.

297 solomonpanting  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:41pm

re: #283 Nevergiveup

Does Potters Field count?

Depends if my afterlife dreams go up in smoke.

298 Soona'  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:41pm

re: #278 albusteve

a sweet little do it all...nice piece

I just bought one about six weeks ago. Haven't had time to fire it yet, but looking foward to it.

299 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:43pm

re: #267 HoosierHoops

I always thought Senators were members of Congress..But not Congressmen..
They are *Senators*
Am I wrong?
/What are the odds..call Vegas

A Senator is a Congressman, just as a member of the House of Representatives is a Congressman.

300 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:47pm

re: #259 stevieray

Good evening, Honcos!

I had a really busy day today... haven't had a chance to check out the news yet. Can anybody tell me... did Obama really give the Queen of England an iPod? Or was that just an April Fool's Day joke press release?

Yeah. And downloaded on it he had Queens Greatest Hits......
/ :)

301 ziggyelman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:23:58pm

re: #244 alegrias

Whoa,
O'Reilly says Congress will investigate ACORN over that New York Times cover up of allegations they spiked a story about ACORN voter shenanigans.

The bad news, John Conyers (D-Michigan) would head the investigation.

While reading here, I missed part of that...they played audio of an NYT reporter, I guess leaving a message on a whistle blowers answering machine, and they were what, killing the story from above? Wish I had been paying more attention...

302 ConservatismNow!  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:24:02pm

re: #232 Sharmuta

You're thinking Wisconsin.

Lewis Black: Apparently you guys have some kind of federal grant for drinking.

303 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:24:03pm
304 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:24:05pm

re: #277 ziggyelman

A big fan of Sylvester the Cat?

Hey, let's not go there. He has a speech impediment. If your kid had a speech impediment, you wouldn't make fun of him, would you? And on top of that, he's gay, and he's fat, and he wears glasses, and he dresses dumpy.

Hey, if your kid was a speech impeded, gay, overweight, sightless bad dresser, would you make... I can't keep typing... LOL... never mind.

305 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:24:36pm

re: #291 Aviator

Yes he did and reportedly it has speeches of his on it.

Actually I think it has video of the Queens last visit to the States on it.

306 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:24:57pm

re: #275 Nevergiveup

I always understood that technically "Congress" was both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

That what I thought, lots of links to Congressman Stevens, but I could be wrong.

307 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:25:15pm

re: #305 Nevergiveup

Actually I think it has video of the Queens last visit to the States on it.

Both

308 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:25:16pm
309 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:25:30pm

re: #273 Aviator

Doing well. Watching Midway. Yourself?

Doing just great Aviator...Waiting to see who gets voted off American Idol..
*wink*

310 alegrias  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:25:38pm

re: #288 Nevergiveup

John Demjanjuk asks US authorities to halt his deportation in Nazi case

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

He is still here?

* * * *
With my luck, he's in my neighborhood, like the GITMO jihadists are going to be if Obama & ERic Holder get their way.

311 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:25:45pm

re: #299 FurryOldGuyJeans

A Senator is a Congressman, just as a member of the House of Representatives is a Congressman.

My Senator is an asshole? Go figure.

312 Abu Lahab  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:25:53pm

I have to admit, i find Obama's choice of gifts really strange

313 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:25:55pm

re: #285 albusteve

no, Stevens is not a Congressman...the term does not define individuals rather the collective

He is a Congressman, a US Senator, and an American. There is not mutually exclusivity mode going on.

314 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:26:05pm

re: #282 LGoPs

*Cough....Choke*.........sorry, I had a frog in my throat......

AIN'T THAT WHAT MISS PIGGY SAID?

(sorry, I'm like Roger Rabbit and someone tapped out "Shave and a haircut")

315 jjmckay1216  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:26:05pm

re: #37 loppyd

I fell asleep. :)

LOL really? i kinda liked it course i'm a sucker for tom hanks movies, most of em. even though he is probly lefty

316 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:26:14pm

re: #308 buzzsawmonkey

Tongue piercing.

this is the first comment i wanted to upding and delete at the same time

317 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:26:24pm

re: #306 avanti

That what I thought, lots of links to Congressman Stevens, but I could be wrong.

Congress is both the House and Senate...Congressmen represent the House

318 stevieray  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:26:30pm

re: #284 avanti

Thanks avanti.

The book seems pretty good.

319 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:26:31pm

re: #306 avanti

That what I thought, lots of links to Congressman Stevens, but I could be wrong.

I was referring to the Body. Not the Individual.

320 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:26:38pm

re: #308 buzzsawmonkey

Tongue piercing.

Live frog.

321 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:26:40pm
322 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:26:58pm

re: #307 Aviator

Both

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

323 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:26:58pm

re: #290 taxfreekiller

not the way people talk,

Senator Stevens
not
Congressman Stevens

bs

As my best friend says "Whatever"

324 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:27:11pm

re: #307 Aviator

Both

Ipods have delete functions don't they?

325 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:27:28pm
326 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:27:34pm

For being a mostly unarmed police force, the British cops did some serious ass-kicking and head bustin' today in the UK.

Check out the pictures:[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

What the hell is a "Climate Change" protester?

327 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:27:42pm
328 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:27:42pm
329 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:27:54pm

re: #313 FurryOldGuyJeans

He is a Congressman, a US Senator, and an American. There is not mutually exclusivity mode going on.

he is not a Congressman...Senators collectivly are...just semantics

330 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:27:57pm

re: #291 Aviator

Yes he did and reportedly it has speeches of his on it.

Obama to Queen Elizabeth: "Here are some of my speeches in front of adoring crowds. But enough about me. What do you think of me, your Majesty?"
/

331 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:27:58pm

re: #320 DEZes

Live frog.

Where is the gerbil?

332 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:28:01pm

re: #189 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ted Danson had a "thing" for Whoopi, and reportedly he is a lot like his Sam Malone character, the womanizing bar owner in Cheers.

Ted Danson likes to do freaks. I think that is a psychosis.

333 alegrias  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:28:09pm

re: #323 avanti

As my best friend says "Whatever"

* * * *
Well, Senators get 6 year terms, Congress people 2 year terms. So there is a factor of 3x difference between them.

334 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:28:18pm
335 Pietr  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:28:18pm

re: #308 buzzsawmonkey

Tongue piercing.

Barney the Purple-or Bawney Fwank? I believe there is a difference-one can be trusted around children.......

/White Smoke.......

336 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:28:31pm

re: #331 Aviator

Where is the gerbil?

You dont wanna know.

337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:28:32pm

re: #328 NYCHardhat

Ain't that somebody's brother?

338 ConservatismNow!  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:28:45pm

re: #326 WhiteRasta

What the hell is a "Climate Change" protester?

A college student who will get an "A" in their civics class.

339 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:29:01pm

re: #314 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

AIN'T THAT WHAT MISS PIGGY SAID?

(sorry, I'm like Roger Rabbit and someone tapped out "Shave and a haircut")

I can't believe Charles would kermit you to say that......
/

340 Soona'  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:29:12pm

Talk to everyone later. So long.

341 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:29:12pm

re: #331 Aviator

Where is the gerbil?

There's a reason Barney Frank seldom sits!

342 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:29:14pm

re: #336 DEZes

You dont wanna know.

I thought Richard Gere had it last. //

343 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:29:15pm

re: #330 LGoPs

Obama to Queen Elizabeth: "Here are some of my speeches in front of adoring crowds. But enough about me. What do you think of me, your Majesty?"
/

Narcissistic bastard.

344 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:29:36pm

re: #326 WhiteRasta

For being a mostly unarmed police force, the British cops did some serious ass-kicking and head bustin' today in the UK.

Check out the pictures:[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

What the hell is a "Climate Change" protester?

in Florida they are called Snowbirds

345 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:29:42pm

re: #336 DEZes

You dont wanna know.


i think it's on loan to richard gere

346 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:30:03pm

re: #342 Gus 802

I thought Richard Gere had it last. //

The Richard Gere hamster habitat trail?

347 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:30:07pm

re: #326 WhiteRasta

For being a mostly unarmed police force, the British cops did some serious ass-kicking and head bustin' today in the UK.

Check out the pictures:[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

What the hell is a "Climate Change" protester?

I hat libs.

348 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:30:21pm

re: #314 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

HEY ,,, you gonna have time tomorrow or Friday during the day to get together?

349 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:30:32pm

re: #346 DEZes

The Richard Gere hamster habitat trail?

Lemmewinks.

350 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:30:58pm
351 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:31:11pm
352 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:31:13pm

re: #347 NYCHardhat

I hat libs.

What kind of hats do you make out of them? Do the hats smell funny?

353 solomonpanting  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:31:14pm

re: #334 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know if Barney Frank has a live frog in his throat, but he amphibian awful lot.

You mean he lays alot?

354 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:31:16pm

re: #346 DEZes

The Richard Gere hamster habitat trail?

That is so wrong...wrong...
LOL

355 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:31:18pm

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration plans to seek as much as $3 billion over the next five years to train and equip Pakistan's military,

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

What could possibly go wrong?

356 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:31:23pm

Iron fist has just applied to become a London Bobby...

357 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:31:37pm

re: #337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ain't that somebody's brother?

Thats the dumbass Dixie Chick that bashed Bush over in England.

358 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:31:41pm

re: #347 NYCHardhat

I hat libs.

But do you Hardhat libs?

359 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:31:49pm

re: #344 albusteve

LOL!

360 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:31:56pm

re: #352 Aviator

What kind of hats do you make out of them? Do the hats smell funny?

sorry. its the booze talking

361 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:31:58pm

re: #346 DEZes

The Richard Gere hamster habitat trail?

It's a cave trail.

362 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:32:09pm

re: #317 albusteve

Congress is both the House and Senate...Congressmen represent the House

Wrong.


con⋅gress⋅man
   /ˈkɒŋgrɪsmən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kong-gris-muhn] Show IPA
–noun, plural -men. (often initial capital letter)
a member of a congress, esp. of the U.S. House of Representatives.

A US Senator is a member of the US Congress, so is a Congressman.

And a US Representative SERVES in the House and REPRESNTS the people of their Congressional District.

363 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:32:23pm

Why are there riots in London?

I thought everyone loved The One?

364 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:32:48pm

re: #354 HoosierHoops

That is so wrong...wrong...
LOL

I know. :(

365 ConservatismNow!  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:33:04pm

re: #346 DEZes

The Richard Gere hamster habitat trail?

*sigh*

L-L-L-L-L-L-Lemmywinks!

366 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:33:21pm

re: #362 FurryOldGuyJeans

A US Senator is a member of the US Congress, so is a Congressman.

And a US Representative SERVES in the House and REPRESNTS the people of their Congressional District.

I concede...

367 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:33:21pm

re: #363 jcm

Why are there riots in London?

I thought everyone loved The One?

I thought his election would cause a worldwide orgasm.

368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:33:35pm

re: #348 sattv4u2

Magic 8 Ball says "Yes".

369 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:34:01pm
370 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:34:04pm

re: #363 jcm

Why are there riots in London?

I thought everyone loved The One?

They can't get a front row seat to see him........
/

371 rebnatan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:34:13pm

Galloway was not banned from Canada because of what he says, but because of his concrete activities promoting terrorism and specific terrorist organizations. Perhaps we should have let him in and then arrested him. Our government is right, and Hitchins is wrong.

372 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:34:22pm

re: #363 jcm

Why are there riots in London?

I thought everyone loved The One?

They are not rioting against Obama specifically, it is against the G20 summit. It's not fair to blame the riots on Obama alone. It is anti-capitalism rallies.

373 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:34:42pm

re: #363 jcm

Why are there riots in London?

I thought everyone loved The One?

They're mad that it took him so long! After all, he IS the one they've been waiting for!

374 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:35:09pm

re: #291 Aviator

Yes he did and reportedly it has speeches of his on it.

Barack Obama met the Queen at Buckingham Palace today and gave her a gift of an iPod loaded with video footage and photographs of her 2007 United States visit to Richmond, Jamestown and Williamsburg in Virginia.

As tacky as the gift of an iPod is, at least get the contents correct, ok? ;)

375 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:35:12pm

re: #368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Magic 8 Ball says "Yes".

Cool ,,, I'll call you mid morning to set it up

376 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:35:29pm

re: #372 Walter L. Newton

They are not rioting against Obama specifically, it is against the G20 summit. It's not fair to blame the riots on Obama alone. It is anti-capitalism rallies.

You know. Like the ones they have on Wednesday nights at the White House.

377 ConservatismNow!  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:35:32pm

re: #372 Walter L. Newton

Happens everytime one of the G-whatevers meet.

378 ziggyelman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:35:35pm

re: #304 Walter L. Newton

Hey, let's not go there. He has a speech impediment. If your kid had a speech impediment, you wouldn't make fun of him, would you? And on top of that, he's gay, and he's fat, and he wears glasses, and he dresses dumpy.

Hey, if your kid was a speech impeded, gay, overweight, sightless bad dresser, would you make... I can't keep typing... LOL... never mind.

You had me going there! I wouldn't make fun of a stutterer, but, and could be wrong, I think if he wanted to he could speak better. Then again, it could be his tongue is thicker than most, and you can't do anything about that.

379 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:35:38pm

re: #369 buzzsawmonkey

"We oppose...we oppose."

--Peter Sellers as Mr. Kite, the Communist shop steward in "I'm All Right, Jack"

I'm still trying to find a copy of that film. (I know I could order it online, I suppose).

380 Shug  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:35:45pm

London Rioters
Fighting capitalism
In their North Face gear

381 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:36:01pm

re: #367 NYCHardhat

I thought his election would cause a worldwide orgasm.Obamasm.......

Fixed it, I think........?

382 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:36:04pm
383 phoenixgirl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:36:04pm

an ipod?

384 Pietr  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:36:05pm

re: #367 NYCHardhat

I thought his election would cause a worldwide orgasm.

Oh noeeesss....A Gorebull warming whiteout........

/lotsa white smoke.......

385 phoenixgirl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:36:22pm

ugly american?

387 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:37:02pm

re: #373 sattv4u2

They're mad that it took him so long! After all, he IS the one they've been waiting for!

Here is important news.

388 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:37:10pm

Anti-capitalism, eco-nuts, anti-war loons. All the best and brightest of the EUs future on parade.

389 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:37:24pm

re: #306 avanti

That what I thought, lots of links to Congressman Stevens, but I could be wrong.


I believe the Senate and the House are classified as "Congress". As in Congress is in session... However you have the Senate and the House of Representatives. There are Senators and Representatives -

Interestingly age requirements for Senators and Representatives are different,


Congress

390 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:38:03pm

re: #381 LGoPs

Fixed it, I think........?

I like it...(not really)

391 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:38:07pm

re: #372 Walter L. Newton

They are not rioting against Obama specifically, it is against the G20 summit. It's not fair to blame the riots on Obama alone. It is anti-capitalism rallies.

The G20 summit is just an excuse for people to have a riot and wreck property. But having world-wide media to show how great anarchy can be is just icing on the cake.

392 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:38:18pm

re: #387 NYCHardhat

Here is important news.

I almost feel sorry for Michelle having to be compared to France's Carla Bruni-Sarkozy.

393 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:38:21pm

re: #365 ConservatismNow!

*sigh*

L-L-L-L-L-L-Lemmywinks!

Wheres the exercise wheel?

394 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:38:22pm

re: #386 Aviator

OK.
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

I hope The Queen's computer has a Quicktime movie player.

395 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:39:07pm

re: #392 Nevergiveup

I almost feel sorry for Michelle having to be compared to France's Carla Bruni-Sarkozy.

Beauty and the Psycho Hosebeast

396 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:39:16pm

re: #372 Walter L. Newton

They are not rioting against Obama specifically, it is against the G20 summit. It's not fair to blame the riots on Obama alone. It is anti-capitalism rallies.

GASP!

You mean he hasn't healed the world economy in one day!

I'm shocked!

We had the same thing in Seattle for WTO. I wonder if these people collected the sticker set. I rioted in Seattle, London, ........

397 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:39:59pm

re: #395 NYCHardhat
Ya owe me a beer! Mine is now all over my shirt!

398 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:40:08pm

OT: Mos Def is an imbecile.

399 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:40:23pm

re: #388 pingjockey

Anti-capitalism, eco-nuts, anti-war loons. All the best and brightest of the EUs future on parade.

No confined to the EU. Seattle WTO same thing.

400 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:40:24pm

re: #367 NYCHardhat

I thought his election would cause a worldwide orgasm.

That's at least a partially correct description because I know we're all fucked......

401 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:40:53pm

re: #400 LGoPs

That's at least a partially correct description because I know we're all fucked......

Niiiiiice. I like that pun.

402 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:40:55pm

re: #396 jcm

GASP!

You mean he hasn't healed the world economy in one day!

I'm shocked!

We had the same thing in Seattle for WTO. I wonder if these people collected the sticker set. I rioted in Seattle, London, ........

they tore up Seattle but good...I won't forget that, not that it makes any difference

403 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:41:14pm

re: #397 pingjockey

Ya owe me a beer! Mine is now all over my shirt!

Go for a new shirt too.
P.S. he got me to shoot beer out my nostrils once.

404 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:41:20pm
405 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:41:30pm

re: #399 jcm
Well we had our turn in Seattle. So now they get to show off how progressive they are across the pond.

406 phoenixgirl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:41:52pm

terrible outfit choice. not a meet the queen outfit imho

407 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:42:05pm

re: #396 jcm

GASP!

You mean he hasn't healed the world economy in one day!

I'm shocked!

We had the same thing in Seattle for WTO. I wonder if these people collected the sticker set. I rioted in Seattle, London, ........


These stich marks on my head were from a London bobbies baton. The red mark on my stomach was from a rubber bullet at Seattle. I got tazed in Washington, and my eyes are still red from the tear gas in Vienna!

408 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:42:13pm

re: #397 pingjockey

Ya owe me a beer! Mine is now all over my shirt!

Hope you like the Guinness.

409 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:42:17pm

re: #396 jcm

GASP!

You mean he hasn't healed the world economy in one day!

I'm shocked!

We had the same thing in Seattle for WTO. I wonder if these people collected the sticker set. I rioted in Seattle, London, ........

Really, JCM, you know what I was saying. The riots are not targeted at Obama in general.

Hey, i don't like the guy, but I certainly don't want to muddy up the waters with blaming him for things he has no control of.

Hell, we have enough to dump on him.

410 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:42:19pm

re: #399 jcm

No confined to the EU. Seattle WTO same thing.

And the Battle in Seattle movie was just a paean to anarchy and anarchists. *SPIT*

/ I will not sully lgf with any link to that excrement, even on IMDB.

411 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:42:27pm

re: #403 DEZes
That is why the shirt is trashed, saved the keyboard and monitor!

412 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:42:51pm

re: #398 NYCHardhat

OT: Mos Def is an imbecile.

No, he's a rapper... er... I see your point... never mind.

413 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:42:55pm

re: #398 NYCHardhat

OT: Mos Def is STILL an imbecile.

414 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:43:00pm

re: #408 NYCHardhat
Surest thing you know!

415 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:43:21pm

re: #406 phoenixgirl

terrible outfit choice. not a meet the queen outfit imho

What, was he wearing sweats? I wouldn't be surprised......

416 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:43:21pm

re: #408 NYCHardhat

Hope you like the Guinness.

Who doesn't?

417 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:43:25pm

If the Hoopster was the President of the United States Of America..
I'd build a complete underground home Theater system under the Palace..
70mm High def projector..softy seats...drink containers...
Britain's Son's and Daughters helped win the War in Iraq..I salute the Hero's.
I'd even include the codex to play Obama's DVD's...

418 solomonpanting  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:43:25pm

Galloway merely received what he had previously preached:

Galloway has in the past issued his own calls for foreign politicians to be banned from British soil, as in the case of Jean-Marie Le Pen, the leader of France's extreme-right National Front.

419 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:43:27pm

re: #402 albusteve

they tore up Seattle but good...I won't forget that, not that it makes any difference

The mayor and police chief received assurance from the protest leaders it would be peaceful. Of course they believed the protest leaders.

Dipsticks.

420 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:44:03pm

re: #414 pingjockey

Surest thing you know!

And I can provide you with a shirt that is a faux tuxedo. Best one in my collection.

421 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:44:48pm

re: #420 NYCHardhat
Hahaha! Got one! It was our softball uniform shirt.

422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:44:59pm

Saw the movie "Knowing" today.

Sa-hucked! But...had some kick-ass special effects.

423 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:45:10pm

re: #419 jcm

The mayor and police chief received assurance from the protest leaders it would be peaceful. Of course they believed the protest leaders.

Dipsticks.

Idiots are born every minute.

424 coldpizza  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:45:31pm

It wasnt a free speech issue. It was an issue based on SECURITY.
Canada did the RIGHT THING. And I'm glad we have balls over here still.

425 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:45:33pm

re: #409 Walter L. Newton

Really, JCM, you know what I was saying. The riots are not targeted at Obama in general.

Hey, i don't like the guy, but I certainly don't want to muddy up the waters with blaming him for things he has no control of.

Hell, we have enough to dump on him.

I know, I know, just a little fun at The One's expense.

426 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:45:45pm

re: #420 NYCHardhat

And I can provide you with a shirt that is a faux tuxedo. Best one in my collection.

My idea of being formal! That shirt with new blue jeans, and I'm decked out! ;)

427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:46:14pm

re: #419 jcm

Does a promise from an Anarchist really mean anything? Not being sarcastic, does it mean anything?

428 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:46:21pm

re: #426 FurryOldGuyJeans

My idea of being formal! That shirt with new blue jeans, and I'm decked out! ;)

You know it!

429 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:46:35pm

re: #164 Charles

Charles -

"Shot Themselves in the Foot" is an after the fact judgere: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Made 60, dinnit?

Vegetarian -

YUP - AND - Losing DODD would give them 59, eh?

-S-

430 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:46:48pm

re: #426 FurryOldGuyJeans
Totally stylin'!

431 vxbush  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:47:08pm

re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw the movie "Knowing" today.

Sa-hucked! But...had some kick-ass special effects.

I thought it was barely fair. But you are right; some of the effects were amazing.

432 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:47:20pm

re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Does a promise from an Anarchist really mean anything? Not being sarcastic, does it mean anything?

Anarchists are human cockroaches only not as intelligent.

433 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:47:23pm

re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Does a promise from an Anarchist really mean anything? Not being sarcastic, does it mean anything?

It means they are lying.

434 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:47:23pm

re: #326 WhiteRasta

For being a mostly unarmed police force, the British cops did some serious ass-kicking and head bustin' today in the UK.

Check out the pictures:[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

What the hell is a "Climate Change" protester?

Did you see that rioter protestor climate change activist Clockwork Orange yob with the nose rings? That bobbie showed incredible restraint not to grab him by the nostrils.

435 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:47:24pm

re: #429 Dr. Shalit

From your keyboard to G-d's ears...

436 phoenixgirl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:47:24pm

that picture of the obama's and the queen looks uncomfortable! it's on drudge.

i can almost hear the police singing in the background "don't stand so close to me"!

437 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:47:36pm

GO SEE GRAN TORINO.

438 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:47:43pm

re: #425 jcm

I know, I know, just a little fun at The One's expense.

In time little ground squirrel, in time.

439 Ojoe  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:47:46pm
440 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:47:48pm

re: #423 DEZes

Idiots are born every minute.

The cops ended up with 12 hour shift with no plan for even restroom relief. Citizens were buying pizzas and giving them to the cops.

441 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:47:59pm

re: #429 Dr. Shalit
Are they fixing to toss Dodd under the bus?

442 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:48:38pm

re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Does a promise from an Anarchist really mean anything? Not being sarcastic, does it mean anything?

Only if they say "I'm gonna fuck up your city".........
/

443 phoenixgirl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:49:11pm

re: #415 LGoPs

What, was he wearing sweats? I wouldn't be surprised......

no, michelle's outfit. it just wasn't right. it's on drudge

444 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:49:18pm

re: #441 pingjockey

Are they fixing to toss Dodd under the bus?

speaking of which ,, WTF is happening in Minnesota? I thought it was supposed to be resolbed mid March!

445 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:49:30pm

re: #441 pingjockey

Are they fixing to toss Dodd under the bus?

Easter is coming up not Christmas.

446 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:49:48pm

re: #434 Alouette

Would you touch his nostrils? Ewwwwwwwwwww!

447 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:49:50pm

re: #443 phoenixgirl

no, michelle's outfit. it just wasn't right. it's on drudge

He was wearing Michelle's outfit?

448 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:50:02pm

re: #444 sattv4u2

speaking of which ,, WTF is happening in Minnesota? I thought it was supposed to be resolbed mid March!


I swear I DO know how to type AND spell RESOLVED !

449 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:50:09pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

In this age where many are fighting for their right to speak out against islam, we can not afford to be hypocrites. If we block the speech of those with whom we disagree, who will protect our speech?

It's not that easy. Famously, your free speech rights do not include crying "Fire!" in a crowded theater. Or slander. Or violence. Or treason. Islam insists on walking the boundaries of all of these as a matter of culture, even (arguably) as a matter of dogma. Under the circumstances, I'm willing to move the borders some.

450 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:50:12pm

re: #447 Walter L. Newton

He was wearing Michelle's outfit?

LOL.....
:)

451 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:50:27pm

re: #440 jcm

The cops ended up with 12 hour shift with no plan for even restroom relief. Citizens were buying pizzas and giving them to the cops.

Thats the silver lining then, and they should have let the cops relieve themselves on the rioters. ;)

452 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:50:30pm

re: #444 sattv4u2
No idea.

453 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:51:05pm

re: #451 DEZes

Thats the silver lining then, and they should have let the cops relieve themselves on the rioters. ;)

No justice! No pee! //

454 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:51:07pm

re: #443 phoenixgirl

no, michelle's outfit. it just wasn't right. it's on drudge


What do you expect from someone that thinks an IPod is an acceptable present for the Queen of England?

455 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:51:16pm

re: #443 phoenixgirl

no, michelle's outfit. it just wasn't right. it's on drudge

I'm from NM...so what

456 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:51:46pm

re: #451 DEZes

Thats the silver lining then, and they should have let the cops relieve themselves on the rioters. ;)

Then at least they would have had a reason to be pissed......
/

457 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:51:53pm
458 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:52:07pm

re: #440 jcm

re: #451 DEZes

Thats the silver lining then, and they should have let the cops relieve themselves on the rioters. ;)

Better yet. They should have let the cops throw the pizza at the rioters! What better food is there for a bunch of dopeed out hippies with the munchies! They would have ate the pizza and mellowed!

459 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:52:27pm

re: #453 Gus 802

No justice! No pee! //

No sh**!

460 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:52:27pm

re: #451 DEZes
They should've called out the Nat'l Guard...with fixed bayonets. That has a tendency to calm punk, thuggish behavior down.

461 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:52:29pm

re: #436 phoenixgirl

that picture of the obama's and the queen looks uncomfortable! it's on drudge.

i can almost hear the police singing in the background "don't stand so close to me"!

I surprised no one has picked up the story of the picture of Michelle with her arm around the queens waist. The queen did the same, but if Michelle did it first it would be a no-no.

462 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:52:34pm

re: #451 DEZes

Thats the silver lining then, and they should have let the cops relieve themselves on the rioters. ;)

Good thing they didn't use the Brown Note on them.

463 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:52:43pm

re: #451 DEZes

I liked the pics of the big-ass German Shepherds.

What's black and brown and looks good on a hippie? German Shepherd.

464 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:53:13pm

re: #451 DEZes

Thats the silver lining then, and they should have let the cops relieve themselves on the rioters. ;)

The anarchists are in the category of things that you wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.

465 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:53:17pm

re: #460 pingjockey

They should've called out the Nat'l Guard...with fixed bayonets. That has a tendency to calm punk, thuggish behavior down.

I'm thinking about that Mossberg 590 with the Bayonet now.

466 vxbush  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:53:30pm

Eh, I'm not up to talking tonight. Later, everyone.

Pray for me tomorrow: hubbie having surgery and that means I get to manage the son alone.

467 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:53:49pm

re: #463 WhiteRasta

I liked the pics of the big-ass German Shepherds.

What's black and brown and looks good on a hippie lawyer? German Shepherd.

468 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:53:52pm

re: #464 Alouette

The anarchists are in the category of things that you wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.

The cops had to go somewhere. ;)

469 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:54:10pm

re: #465 NYCHardhat
A shotgun with a bayonet attachment....very cool.

470 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:54:21pm

re: #466 vxbush

Eh, I'm not up to talking tonight. Later, everyone.

Pray for me tomorrow: hubbie having surgery and that means I get to manage the son alone.

Hope the surgery goes well.
:)

471 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:54:26pm

re: #461 avanti

I surprised no one has picked up the story of the picture of Michelle with her arm around the queens waist. The queen did the same, but if Michelle did it first it would be a no-no.

NOW you're quoting protocol? Earlier today you were dismissve of the Quuens tarditional gift to a visitor!

Geeezzz ,,,, I'm not sure whats wrong with you, but I'll bet it's hard to spell!

472 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:54:29pm

re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Does a promise from an Anarchist really mean anything? Not being sarcastic, does it mean anything?

It was worse than that. The web sites for the groups clearly spelled out their real plans. This was pointed out to the city.

473 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:54:36pm

re: #454 summergurl

Really tacky and cheap. He should have given her a racehorse or something like that.

474 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:54:47pm

re: #469 pingjockey

A shotgun with a bayonet attachment....very cool.

WW1 in the trenches

475 ziggyelman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:54:55pm

re: #383 phoenixgirl

an ipod?

Well, see they gave away all the free dvds they had received to Gordan Brown, but they found a slightly used Ipod in the back of the closet....

476 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:55:19pm

re: #469 pingjockey

A shotgun with a bayonet attachment....very cool.

477 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:55:23pm

re: #474 albusteve
I want one NOW!

478 Racer X  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:55:27pm

Moby is here just to stir shit up. It gets off on it.

479 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:55:45pm

re: #475 ziggyelman

Well, see they gave away all the free dvds they had received to Gordan Brown, but they found a slightly used Ipod in the back of the closet....

I speculated it was a re-gift. Someone gave Obama an I Pod but he already had one, so ,,,,,,,

480 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:55:52pm

re: #457 buzzsawmonkey

"Falsely," dammit. Do not include falsely shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater. If the theater actually is on fire you not only have a right, but a duty to let people know.

Yes, I suppose so, but strictly speaking we're talking about your "right" to do so independent of other facts.

481 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:56:11pm

re: #413 sattv4u2


mos def is also mos dumb and mos blind

482 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:56:29pm

re: #461 avanti

I surprised no one has picked up the story of the picture of Michelle with her arm around the queens waist. The queen did the same, but if Michelle did it first it would be a no-no.

Wait... you can't touch a woman's waist? WTF! I'm sooooooo lost when it comes to women.

483 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:56:33pm

re: #481 _RememberTonyC

mos def is also mos dumb and mos blind

an mos-ly untalented

484 Racer X  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:56:48pm

re: #479 sattv4u2

I speculated it was a re-gift. Someone gave Obama an I Pod but he already had one, so ,,,,,,,

It was personalized.

Queen Latifah

485 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:56:56pm

My US$.02 worth (which is about C$.026 right now) is that the Canucks were just being pragmatic now that Galloway was on record forking over cash to Hamas for the world to see. If they let Galloway in, sets a bad precedent for the next Hamas shill who wants to come in and is barred.

Besides- the Canucks list Hamas as a terrorist organization on their public security website.

486 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:56:56pm

re: #457 buzzsawmonkey

eg, for if it doth succeed, none dare call it treason.

487 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:57:00pm

re: #476 NYCHardhat

[Video]

fucking Commie cabbages!....oooh RAH!

488 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:57:33pm
489 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:57:53pm

re: #469 pingjockey

A shotgun with a bayonet attachment....very cool.

Come on lets go all out....

490 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:58:08pm

re: #482 NYCHardhat

Wait... you can't touch a woman's waist? WTF! I'm sooooooo lost when it comes to women.

protocol and tradition. No touchy touchy the Queen

491 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:58:12pm

re: #461 avanti

I surprised no one has picked up the story of the picture of Michelle with her arm around the queens waist. The queen did the same, but if Michelle did it first it would be a no-no.

NOW you are a master at protocol.

////

492 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:58:24pm

re: #473 WhiteRasta

Really tacky and cheap. He should have given her a racehorse or something like that.

Seriously. What he should have done is given her something of rather significant cultural value native to the United States. No brought an Ipod that's made in China. He gave them some book signed by Richard Rodgers. Not a big deal since I have a book signed by General Westmoreland. Of course they gave him signed portraits.

493 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:58:29pm

re: #489 jcm

Come on lets go all out....

that's RENDER!

494 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:58:30pm

re: #441 pingjockey

Are they fixing to toss Dodd under the bus?

pingockey -

Wishing doesn't make it so - Intention Does. That is all.

-S-

495 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:58:34pm

re: #490 sattv4u2

protocol and tradition. No touchy touchy the Queen

The Queen isn't a woman?

496 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:58:46pm

re: #489 jcm
Ha! I can go hunting and cut firewood at the same time!

497 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:58:57pm

re: #489 jcm

Come on lets go all out....

Fucking sick!

498 phoenixgirl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:58:57pm

re: #455 albusteve

I'm from NM...so what

she's supposed to have style, that's all we hear about.

499 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:59:05pm
500 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:59:09pm

re: #471 sattv4u2

NOW you're quoting protocol? Earlier today you were dismissve of the Quuens tarditional gift to a visitor!

Geeezzz ,,,, I'm not sure whats wrong with you, but I'll bet it's hard to spell!

Latin, 18 words and about 47 letters? ;)

501 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:59:24pm

re: #498 phoenixgirl

she's supposed to have style, that's all we hear about.

She has as much style as my penis.

502 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:59:34pm

Guys I'm whomped. G'night.

503 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:59:37pm

re: #484 Racer X

It was personalized.

Queen Latifah

LOL. I guess we should be grateful that fuckstick didn't bring Queen Latifah along in his entourage just to show the Queen that we had one too.....
/

504 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:59:37pm

re: #498 phoenixgirl

she's supposed to have style, that's all we hear about.

style is subjective

505 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 5:59:39pm

re: #497 NYCHardhat

Fucking sick!

But you like it, come on we all know. ;)

506 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:00:00pm

re: #505 DEZes

But you like it, come on we all know. ;)

I want 3.

507 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:00:07pm

re: #500 FurryOldGuyJeans

Latin, 18 words and about 47 letters? ;)

Bingo ,,,,,, prolly starts with a "P" thats silent

508 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:00:18pm

re: #494 Dr. Shalit
I haven't caught the news in a couple of days, so I had no idea what was happening with Dodd.

509 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:00:19pm
510 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:00:40pm

re: #506 NYCHardhat

I want 3.

That makes 2 of us.

511 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:00:51pm

re: #483 sattv4u2

an mos-ly untalented


as someone said previously: "he's a rapper."

512 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:01:04pm

re: #509 buzzsawmonkey

Don't tell us about the racing stripes. Please.

LMAO!

513 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:01:07pm

re: #479 sattv4u2

I speculated it was a re-gift. Someone gave Obama an I Pod but he already had one, so ,,,,,,,

Yet the Queen is supposed to already have one as well.

It is believed the Queen already has an iPod, a 6GB silver Mini version she is said to have bought in 2005 at the suggestion of Prince Andrew.

514 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:01:49pm

re: #497 NYCHardhat

Fucking sick!

A line of riot cops revving chain saws!

That'll get their attention!

515 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:01:59pm

re: #437 NYCHardhat

GO SEE GRAN TORINO.

Can I start off first saying You are really cool and don't take this wrong..
My first review some weeks ago on a sat.morning post gave the Movie a 3 out of 5 stars.. And I love Clint..
But I felt if his character in Gran Torino had half of much depth as his character as Million Dollar Baby..I would give it 5 stars.. But you can't just growl in the first hour of a movie and expect us to ride shotgun with you for the rest....Lead us to your redemption...and that is what the movie is about one mans redemption in today's world.
It takes more than scowls and racist jokes to get me there..
3 stars
/Oh the Gang characters were like a joke....Seriously..did you not laugh out loud when Clint mann'd up the gang? Pleese! LOl
That's just my opinion..What did you like about the movie?

516 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:02:16pm

re: #514 jcm

A line of riot cops revving chain saws!

That'll get their attention!

gives me a woody

517 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:02:25pm

re: #509 buzzsawmonkey

Don't tell us about the racing stripes. Please.

Oh, thats not right.
Bwhahahaha.

518 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:02:27pm

re: #514 jcm

A line of riot cops revving chain saws!

That'll get their attention!

With goalie masks!

519 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:02:33pm

re: #509 buzzsawmonkey

Don't tell us about the racing stripes. Please.

Seriously. You can have all the style in the world, but if you are a racist bigot like that woman is, I wouldn't piss on your face to put out a fire.

520 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:03:35pm

re: #498 phoenixgirl

she's supposed to have style, that's all we hear about.

If style is embodied in WAB, I am more than happy to be accorded the rank of knuckle-dragging Neanderthal.

521 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:03:39pm

re: #519 NYCHardhat

Seriously. You can have all the style in the world, but if you are a racist bigot like that woman is, I wouldn't piss on your face to put out a fire.

that right there is pretty graphic

522 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:03:41pm

re: #518 Gus 802
Outstanding idea!

523 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:03:48pm

re: #514 jcm

A line of riot cops revving chain saws!

That'll get their attention!

It'd be cool to see a bunch of these cops riot. And then when the media got outraged they could go...."Hey, we're riot cops. That's what we do"

524 phoenixgirl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:03:54pm

re: #504 albusteve

style is subjective

true, imho that wasn't a meet the queen outfit

525 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:04:09pm

re: #449 itellu3times

Speaking of the hypocritical -- as Ezra has written about -- the HRCs have gone after all and sundry (those who print the Mo cartoons in a magazine, etc.), but not, of course, after radical Imams. Ezra notes that there was a Muslim fundamentalist who put onto the Internet some "writings" -- all apparently in violation of Canada's hate speech laws -- calling for the stoning of adulterous women, etc. Someone filed a complaint with the HRC -- and, of course, the HRC promptly dismissed the complaint. So, we've got mega hypocrisy going on here -- some groups are more privileged than others...it's a very slanted grievance industry...

526 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:04:38pm

re: #519 NYCHardhat

Seriously. You can have all the style in the world, but if you are a racist bigot like that woman is, I wouldn't piss on your face to put out a fire.

But you could use an axe to put out the fire.....
/

527 Racer X  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:04:41pm

Are there no American artisans around to build, say, a nice sculpture? Or piece of furniture? Or art? Something "American"?

He has to give the Queen a personalized iPod made in China?

528 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:04:59pm

re: #526 LGoPs

But you could use an axe to put out the fire.....
/

Yessssss.

529 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:05:13pm

re: #515 HoosierHoops

Can I start off first saying You are really cool and don't take this wrong..
My first review some weeks ago on a sat.morning post gave the Movie a 3 out of 5 stars.. And I love Clint..
But I felt if his character in Gran Torino had half of much depth as his character as Million Dollar Baby..I would give it 5 stars.. But you can't just growl in the first hour of a movie and expect us to ride shotgun with you for the rest....Lead us to your redemption...and that is what the movie is about one mans redemption in today's world.
It takes more than scowls and racist jokes to get me there..
3 stars
/Oh the Gang characters were like a joke....Seriously..did you not laugh out loud when Clint mann'd up the gang? Pleese! LOl
That's just my opinion..What did you like about the movie?

I felt that it jostled the PC garbage out of everybody's head. I'm no bigot, but I know for a fact, because I work with many cultures, that everyone has an fucked up thought occasionally.

530 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:05:41pm

re: #523 LGoPs

It'd be cool to see a bunch of these cops riot. And then when the media got outraged they could go...."Hey, we're riot cops. That's what we do"

ROFL!

531 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:06:06pm

re: #524 phoenixgirl

true, imho that wasn't a meet the queen outfit

It was a "let's go to Church and Carrabas afterwards" outfit.

532 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:06:13pm
533 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:06:19pm
534 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:06:24pm

re: #524 phoenixgirl

true, imho that wasn't a meet the queen outfit

In all the pictures of the Queen and the First Family released so far I can't believe how TINY the Queen is.

535 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:06:58pm

re: #533 buzzsawmonkey

I would love to be able to praise the First Lady for her style, or grace, or carriage, or...something. Even knowing that she is basically a sullen hate-whitey gangsta gal with a fancy degree and a half-decent hairdo.

So far, though, she has not met me even halfway.

Taxpayers gave her that degree.

536 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:07:18pm

re: #534 FurryOldGuyJeans

In all the pictures of the Queen and the First Family released so far I can't believe how TINY the Queen is.

She's part Yorkie. //

537 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:07:34pm

re: #527 Racer X

Are there no American artisans around to build, say, a nice sculpture? Or piece of furniture? Or art? Something "American"?

He has to give the Queen a personalized iPod made in China?

maybe it's a video ipod with all of his speeches loaded up. he may be narcissistic enough to do it

538 ziggyelman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:07:38pm

re: #519 NYCHardhat

Seriously. You can have all the style in the world, but if you are a racist bigot like that woman is, I wouldn't piss on your face to put out a fire.

When you say things like this...I don't think you are really from NYC, and are really in Iowa. ;)

539 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:08:08pm

re: #532 Alouette

WTF?

Is the President of the United States BOWING to the King of Saudi Arabia? Even GW Bush didn't do that.

Is that a goat in your man dress or are you just happy to see me?

540 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:08:09pm

re: #527 Racer X

Are there no American artisans around to build, say, a nice sculpture? Or piece of furniture? Or art? Something "American"?

He has to give the Queen a personalized iPod made in China?

That would mean the $52,000+ a year drone at the protocol office responsible for foreign visit gifts would have to actually WORK for their pay, PUH-LEEZE!

541 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:08:10pm

re: #527 Racer X

Are there no American artisans around to build, say, a nice sculpture? Or piece of furniture? Or art? Something "American"?

He has to give the Queen a personalized iPod made in China?


I am sure with all the visits we have made over the year and they coming over here they have gobs of gifts... but still...

A painting or sculpture by an American artist has a little more class than an IPod and some downloaded ITunes

542 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:08:12pm

re: #538 ziggyelman

When you say things like this...I don't think you are really from NYC, and are really in Iowa. ;)

I don't get it.

543 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:08:31pm

re: #538 ziggyelman

When you say things like this...I don't think you are really from NYC, and are really in Iowa. ;)

Its..... Captain Kirk.

544 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:09:00pm

re: #495 NYCHardhat

The Queen isn't a woman?

NYCHardhat -

Her BRITANNIC Majesty, Elizabeth II, surely is a Woman, a rather attractive one in her younger days. She is also Head of State of the UK as their system is "Constitutional Monarchy" - which in reality a figurehead Monarch with precious little Written Constitution. Agree with it or not, it is THEIR System. As for Us/the US - with luck, pluck and a bit of help from the French we were able to WIN our installment of a British Civil War. Thinking of it in 1860's terms - The Confederacy WON. History, the Good, Bad and Ugly follows from there.

-S-

545 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:09:38pm

re: #542 NYCHardhat

I don't get it.

It was a midwestern complement

546 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:09:40pm

Oh look, a fresh beer.

547 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:09:55pm

re: #542 NYCHardhat

I don't get it.

think hard.....it will come to you

548 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:10:01pm

re: #534 FurryOldGuyJeans
Don't let that size fool ya. She's tough. The Queen Mum lived to 102, IIRC.

549 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:10:01pm

re: #544 Dr. Shalit

NYCHardhat -

Her BRITANNIC Majesty, Elizabeth II, surely is a Woman, a rather attractive one in her younger days. She is also Head of State of the UK as their system is "Constitutional Monarchy" - which in reality a figurehead Monarch with precious little Written Constitution. Agree with it or not, it is THEIR System. As for Us/the US - with luck, pluck and a bit of help from the French we were able to WIN our installment of a British Civil War. Thinking of it in 1860's terms - The Confederacy WON. History, the Good, Bad and Ugly follows from there.

-S-

I think I forgot the sarc tag?

550 ziggyelman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:10:14pm

re: #532 Alouette

WTF?

Is the President of the United States BOWING to the King of Saudi Arabia? Even GW Bush didn't do that.

Perhaps he confused the etiquette thing with what he was supposed to do with the Queen?
Bush was pretty bad. I hated that photo of him walking hand and hand with either some prince, or the King....

551 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:10:32pm

re: #547 albusteve

think hard.....it will come to you

I'm drunk. Don't play games with me.

552 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:10:45pm

re: #542 NYCHardhat

I don't get it.

You don't sound like a far left Libtard, I believe is the intent. ;)

553 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:10:45pm

re: #533 buzzsawmonkey

I would love to be able to praise the First Lady for her style, or grace, or carriage, or...something. Even knowing that she is basically a sullen hate-whitey gangsta gal with a fancy degree and a half-decent hairdo.

So far, though, she has not met me even halfway.

To paraphrase the First Lady ( / ) I say that "For the first time in my life, I'm ashamed of my country. For what we've put in office to represent us"

554 Racer X  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:10:46pm

re: #541 summergurl

I am sure with all the visits we have made over the year and they coming over here they have gobs of gifts... but still...

A painting or sculpture by an American artist has a little more class than an IPod and some downloaded ITunes

Exactly!

You would think there is a room at the White House just filled with cool stuff to hand out to dignitaries.

555 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:10:59pm

Night night...

556 nyc redneck  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:11:13pm

re: #532 Alouette

WTF?

Is the President of the United States BOWING to the King of Saudi Arabia? Even GW Bush didn't do that.

he certainly is hunched over in that shiny suit of his.
how awkward and unpresidential.

557 Racer X  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:11:31pm

re: #546 DEZes

Oh look, a fresh beer.

*Racer X looks around feverishly*

558 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:11:34pm

re: #551 NYCHardhat

I'm drunk. Don't play games with me.

Are you seeing double?

Are you seeing double?

559 ziggyelman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:11:53pm

re: #542 NYCHardhat

I don't get it.

Just pulling your leg, what you said was very NYC, IMO. couldn't really see someone from the Midwest saying that.

560 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:12:05pm

re: #552 FurryOldGuyJeans

You don't sound like a far left Libtard, I believe is the intent. ;)

I guess the NYC thing has people thinking that the far majority are raging lunatics from the left. However, there are some of us that keep the Obamacons at bay.

561 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:12:08pm

re: #548 pingjockey

Don't let that size fool ya. She's tough. The Queen Mum lived to 102, IIRC.

I know QEII will make Charles unhappy because she will last so long, I just was a bit surprised at her size.

562 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:12:49pm
protocol and tradition. No touchy touchy the Queen


Looks like the press did pick it up.

Cozy with the queen

563 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:13:10pm

re: #558 LGoPs

Are you seeing double?

Are you seeing double?

Why did you write that 4 times?

564 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:13:20pm

re: #557 Racer X

*Racer X looks around feverishly*

Here, Ill share.

565 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:13:29pm

re: #551 NYCHardhat

I'm drunk. Don't play games with me.

I don't want to judge...I politely refrian

566 Racer X  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:13:42pm

re: #551 NYCHardhat

I'm drunk. Don't play games with me.

˙˙˙uǝɥʍ ʞunɹp ooʇ ǝɹ,noʎ ʍouʞ noʎ

567 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:13:50pm

re: #561 FurryOldGuyJeans
My wife is from Wales and she thinks that Charles will abdicate and let William take over. Or at least that is what she hopes!

568 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:13:53pm

re: #563 NYCHardhat

Why did you write that 4 times?

ROTFLMAO......
:)

ROTFLMAO......
:)

569 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:13:58pm

re: #566 Racer X

˙˙˙uǝɥʍ ʞunɹp ooʇ ǝɹ,noʎ ʍouʞ noʎ

WTF!

570 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:14:07pm

re: #532 Alouette

WTF?

Is the President of the United States BOWING to the King of Saudi Arabia? Even GW Bush didn't do that.

Obama - the despots lickspittle.

571 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:14:35pm

re: #566 Racer X
That's a good trick!

572 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:15:02pm
573 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:15:37pm

re: #569 NYCHardhat

WTF!

Look at it through the bottom of the glass........

574 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:15:45pm

re: #551 NYCHardhat

I'm drunk. Don't play games with me.

Hee hee where's the magic marker?

575 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:15:46pm

re: #572 buzzsawmonkey

"Lickspittle" gets an upding.

it's hard to find a place for that word....agreed

576 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:16:06pm

Damn. I really lost my edge. I have to stop drinking.

577 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:16:07pm

re: #566 Racer X

˙˙˙uǝɥʍ ʞunɹp ooʇ ǝɹ,noʎ ʍouʞ noʎ

That deserves a million updings.

578 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:16:21pm

re: #574 summergurl
Don't forget the Nair.

579 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:16:25pm

re: #532 Alouette

WTF?

Is the President of the United States BOWING to the King of Saudi Arabia? Even GW Bush didn't do that.

That really bothers me. I don't want to say why, but it really bothers me.........

580 jcm  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:16:32pm

re: #571 pingjockey

That's a good trick!

˙˙˙˙ǝuoʎuɐ llǝʇ ʇ,uop ɥɥɥɥɥɥs

581 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:16:34pm
582 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:16:52pm

re: #567 pingjockey

My wife is from Wales and she thinks that Charles will abdicate and let William take over. Or at least that is what she hopes!

I would believe quicker that Elizabeth chose William as successor before Charles would willing abdicate. The furor that erupted over Camilla shows Charles is a large chunk off the blockhead of his old man, and just as dense.

583 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:17:02pm

re: #580 jcm
Heh!

584 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:17:11pm

re: #581 buzzsawmonkey

In the near term, or for good?

just for tonight.

585 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:17:16pm

re: #572 buzzsawmonkey

"Lickspittle" gets an upding.

Only place I ever heard that word was in Dr Zhivago. But very appropriate.

586 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:17:29pm

re: #578 pingjockey

Don't forget the Nair.

And makeup.

587 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:17:49pm
588 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:17:53pm

re: #586 DEZes

And makeup.

You would make me one ugly woman.

589 mikeymom  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:17:57pm

OT-- good evening scaly ones! life is good in the mickey household tonight--i'm on my 2nd manhattan celebrating 6 weeks of not smoking; mikeydads tallywacker did not fall off and is healing after weeks bizarre drug reaction. bad news- o is still my prez. oh well, 2 out of 3--good.

590 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:18:02pm

re: #576 NYCHardhat

Damn. I really lost my edge. I have to stop drinking.

You had an Edge? Dang!
:)

591 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:18:10pm

OT ... but according to seymour hersh, Dick Cheney has moles in the obama White House

[Link: rawstory.com...]

592 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:18:26pm

re: #582 FurryOldGuyJeans
Apparently at Charles and Dianas' wedding, his cufflinks had that horse Camila initials on them!

593 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:18:28pm

re: #562 avanti

Looks like the press did pick it up.

Cozy with the queen

That outfit Michelle is wearing makes her butt look really, really, really HUGE

594 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:18:51pm

re: #587 buzzsawmonkey

"Toady" is underused these days, too. But I am confident that the current Administration will aid its revival.

Sycophant might see a renewed life as well.

595 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:18:53pm

re: #588 NYCHardhat

You would make me one ugly woman.

Hell, I make one ugly man. ;)

596 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:18:57pm

re: #587 buzzsawmonkey

"Toady" is underused these days, too. But I am confident that the current Administration will aid its revival.

toadies

597 jaunte  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:19:01pm

re: #591 _RememberTonyC

...and you thought that mole was Obama's.

598 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:19:12pm

re: #595 DEZes

Hell, I make one ugly man. ;)

LMAO!

599 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:19:28pm

re: #549 NYCHardhat

I think I forgot the sarc tag?

NYCHardhat -

"Fuggedabout" it. NYC and substantial parts of NJ were occupied by British Forces at the end of the war until they were evacuated. It was that close a thing.

-S-

600 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:19:37pm

re: #576 NYCHardhat

Damn. I really lost my edge. I have to stop drinking.

Leave your Edge in the parking lot, and get someone to drive you home.

601 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:19:41pm

re: #590 HoosierHoops

You had an Edge? Dang!
:)

I thought I did.

602 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:19:47pm

re: #570 Aviator

Obama - the despots lickspittle.

I was just gonna call him the Dicatotor's 'Easy Button' based in part on that Staples ad campaign and that farce w/the 'reset' button with the Russians.

603 ziggyelman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:20:06pm

re: #563 NYCHardhat

Why did you write that 4 times?

youshouldworryifprintseemstoruntogether

604 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:20:10pm

re: #587 buzzsawmonkey

"Toady" is underused these days, too. But I am confident that the current Administration will aid its revival.

'toady' would normally be beneath me, but times do change

605 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:20:18pm

re: #592 pingjockey

Apparently at Charles and Dianas' wedding, his cufflinks had that horse Camila initials on them!

I wouldn't be surprised. As far as I could see Charles made it perfectly clear that Diana was but an heir breeder even from the start.

606 Racer X  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:20:32pm

re: #591 _RememberTonyC

OT ... but according to seymour hersh, Dick Cheney has moles in the obama White House

[Link: rawstory.com...]

Cheney you magnificent bastard!

607 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:20:41pm

re: #591 _RememberTonyC
Bwahahahaha! And we all thought Rove was the "magnificent bastard".

608 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:20:58pm

Hello! Back from my whirlwind Richmond visit. Heard on the news in my drive (crawl) through DC that we gave the Queen an iPod. Classy.

609 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:21:04pm

re: #490 sattv4u2

protocol and tradition. No touchy touchy the Queen

Did you see that comment by Throbert McGee on the other thread? He provided the "explanation" for why there's "no touchy The Queen.." It was hilarious...link here... then you have to go to the scrofula link...

610 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:21:06pm

re: #593 Alouette

That outfit Michelle is wearing makes her butt look really, really, really HUGE

Or does her butt make the outfit look really, really huge?

611 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:21:17pm

re: #550 ziggyelman

Perhaps he confused the etiquette thing with what he was supposed to do with the Queen?
Bush was pretty bad. I hated that photo of him walking hand and hand with either some prince, or the King....

He made the King hold on to his left hand. Heh.

612 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:21:32pm

re: #601 NYCHardhat

I thought I did.

LOL
you're good...

613 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:21:35pm

re: #556 nyc redneck

he certainly is hunched over in that shiny suit of his.
how awkward and unpresidential.

NYCRedneck -

Without going into specifics here, I have one word for the so-called "Saudi" Arabians - GIULIANI! That is al.

-S-

614 nyc redneck  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:21:36pm

i wonder if o is bent over kissing the saudi king's ring.
why would o prostrate himself to this islamic despot?
no one else is bent over in the photo,

615 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:21:44pm

re: #608 ArmyWife

Hello! Back from my whirlwind Richmond visit. Heard on the news in my drive (crawl) through DC that we gave the Queen an iPod. Classy.

Yup. And Obama is still a cab-doored fool.

616 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:21:58pm

re: #612 HoosierHoops

LOL
you're good...

;)

617 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:22:14pm

re: #579 LGoPs
The American flag dips for no earthly king....or so the saying goes for why we don't dip it in parade before heads of state at the Olympics. I do not like to see the president bowing to a foreign king.

618 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:22:16pm

re: #593 Alouette

That outfit Michelle is wearing makes her butt look really, really, really HUGE

looks like the Queen is checking out the "junk in michelle's trunk."

619 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:22:20pm
620 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:22:49pm

re: #499 buzzsawmonkey

"Treason doth never prosper; what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

Great line, but what has that to do with misquoting the Supreme Court?

OK, again.

And the topic here is whether there is a stand-alone right to free speech or not, on which the Supreme Court has indeed issued opinions, and my point is that it is not absolute, on the basis that the Supreme Court has talked about, as well as on other basis.

I hope that's clear, because this will be on the quiz.

621 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:23:18pm
622 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:23:38pm

re: #591 _RememberTonyC

OT ... but according to seymour hersh, Dick Cheney has moles in the obama White House

[Link: rawstory.com...]


Wonder what color the sky is according to Seymour Hersh....

623 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:23:45pm

re: #610 Aviator

Or does her butt make the outfit look really, really huge?

Last time I saw an ass like that it had a plow behind it.

624 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:24:06pm

A sycophant is just a sick elephant.

625 J.D.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:24:11pm

re: #620 itellu3times

I hope that's clear, because this will be on the quiz.


Don't let him have to tellu3times.

626 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:24:16pm

re: #615 NYCHardhat

Acckkkk! Probably old news to y'all, but it contained Obama's teleprompter induced speeches. That is the epitome of crass. I hope the Queen promptly gave it to the dog kennel cleaner.

627 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:25:01pm

re: #622 Fenway_Nation

Wonder what color the sky is according to Seymour Hersh....


he is loathsome ...

628 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:25:07pm

re: #623 DEZes
Hahahaha! That sounds like something one of grampas would've said.

629 mikeymom  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:25:32pm

re: #620 itellu3times

OK, again.

And the topic here is whether there is a stand-alone right to free speech or not, on which the Supreme Court has indeed issued opinions, and my point is that it is not absolute, on the basis that the Supreme Court has talked about, as well as on other basis.

I hope that's clear, because this will be on the quiz.


theres no math, right?

630 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:25:33pm

re: #532 Alouette

WTF?

Is the President of the United States BOWING to the King of Saudi Arabia? Even GW Bush didn't do that.

Obama, you realize, is not a king.
/

631 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:26:09pm

re: #622 Fenway_Nation

Wonder what color the sky is according to Seymour Hersh....

Consider the source, Raw Story, Hersh, Bath Tub Boy, et al. Of course this allows the crazies to keep believing that Cheney is still running the "Military/Industrial Complex."

632 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:26:54pm

re: #628 pingjockey

Hahahaha! That sounds like something one of grampas would've said.

Then I would have liked them. ;)

633 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:27:11pm

re: #608 ArmyWife

Hello! Back from my whirlwind Richmond visit. Heard on the news in my drive (crawl) through DC that we gave the Queen an iPod. Classy.

Oh but it was engraved...

634 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:27:13pm

re: #631 Gus 802
It would be fun if it were true. But that group of loons....

635 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:27:14pm

re: #624 pingjockey

A sycophant is just a sick elephant.

An elephant with measles is a patchy derm.......?

636 phoenixgirl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:27:39pm

re: #531 summergurl

It was a "let's go to Church and Carrabas afterwards" outfit.

yes exactly

637 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:27:49pm

bowing to a SA bling freak...hahaha...good one BO!
hahahahaha! they will bent you over the buckboard and fuck you stupid!....
the ultimate bitch, our president

638 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:28:04pm

re: #630 itellu3times

Obama, you realize, is not a king.
/

But, if he is Emperor of the Whole Wide World, shouldn't the King be bowing to HIM?

639 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:28:11pm

re: #630 itellu3times

Obama, you realize, is not a king.
/

A king is a king but a rulers 12 inches.

640 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:28:15pm

re: #632 DEZes
Yep. I have some sayings I'll toss out and my boys want to know where I heard that?

641 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:28:16pm

re: #634 pingjockey

It would be fun if it were true. But that group of loons....

It would. Raw Story is a hive of insanity.

642 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:28:32pm

re: #627 _RememberTonyC

he is loathsome ...


And detatched from reality.....yet retains credibility among the MSM ankle-biters for some reason.

A dangerous trifecta....

643 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:28:38pm

re: #608 ArmyWife

Hello! Back from my whirlwind Richmond visit. Heard on the news in my drive (crawl) through DC that we gave the Queen an iPod. Classy.

Army Wife -

Only proves that the current President is "FRUGAL." Nixon gave Brezhnev a LOADED '73 Chevy Monte Carlo, probably in a Russian Garage somewhere today. Pres. Nixon had enough sense to find out what his "enemy" preferred. Brezhnev was a "Car Nut."
Pres. Obama spent neither time or money to give a comparably relevant gift to a friend.

-S-

644 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:28:53pm

BO....America's Whore

645 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:28:59pm

re: #635 LGoPs
Ruh roh.

646 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:29:01pm
647 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:29:09pm

Outrage! Scandal! Socialism! Rudeness!

The Queen and Mrs. Obama: Did the First Lady Break Protocol?
Panic! Revolt! Tea Party!

648 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:29:17pm

re: #608 ArmyWife

Hello! Back from my whirlwind Richmond visit. Heard on the news in my drive (crawl) through DC that we gave the Queen an iPod. Classy.

Not just an iPod, but also had to have the presidential limousine moved because it was blocking the entrance doors.

649 solomonpanting  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:29:23pm

re: #635 LGoPs

An elephant with measles is a patchy derm.......?

According to Obama, they reside in Pachystan.

650 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:29:32pm

re: #630 itellu3times

Obama, you realize, is not a king.
/

Yeah, IIRC GW just gave the Prince a kiss and held his hand on a walk!

651 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:29:32pm

re: #633 summergurl

Oh. Well then. That makes it much more specialer.

Was it engraved at a Things Remembered Kiosk at the mall on the way to the airport?

652 DEZes  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:29:49pm

re: #645 pingjockey

Ruh roh.

Raggy, is rat rou?

653 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:30:01pm

re: #167 buzzsawmonkey

Buzz, are you being serious?

654 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:30:20pm

re: #647 Killgore Trout
OFF WITH THEIR HEADS! I think the Tower is vacant.

655 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:30:44pm

re: #647 Killgore Trout

Outrage! Scandal! Socialism! Rudeness!

The Queen and Mrs. Obama: Did the First Lady Break Protocol?
Panic! Revolt! Tea Party!

Britain could use a little more Queen-touching if you ask me.

656 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:30:51pm

re: #651 ArmyWife

Oh. Well then. That makes it much more specialer.

Was it engraved at a Things Remembered Kiosk at the mall on the way to the airport?

Nah, Michelle did it with her nail file on the plane.

657 Racer X  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:31:14pm

re: #647 Killgore Trout

Outrage! Scandal! Socialism! Rudeness!

The Queen and Mrs. Obama: Did the First Lady Break Protocol?
Panic! Revolt! Tea Party!

OMG!

That bastard Bush actually winked at the Queen!

658 Cognito  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:31:44pm

It's a bit rich, the huff-and-puffery happening in some quarters, over the Obamas' so-called breech of protocol with the Queen of England.

Who cares? Neither of them walked in and slapped her face, or challenged her to a duel, or spit in her tea.

Stiffen up, guys. Because this new-found sensitivity to royal delicacies smacks of sour grapes among the American electorate.

659 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:31:58pm
660 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:32:17pm

re: #647 Killgore Trout

Actually, it's the British who typically go beserk about breaches with protocol...(they went bonkers about an Australian Prime Minister who had the audacity to go "touchy, touchy" with The Queen..) There's an explanation for the "no touch" rule...it's hilarious...

661 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:32:34pm
662 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:32:44pm

re: #626 ArmyWife

Acckkkk! Probably old news to y'all, but it contained Obama's teleprompter induced speeches. That is the epitome of crass. I hope the Queen promptly gave it to the dog kennel cleaner.

I can't believe this-I just saw this. That's a whole new level of narcissism. They're going to need a brand new DSM category for that.

663 mikeymom  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:32:56pm

Charles- that is the most risque thing i've read you say in the long time i've been here-LOLOL

664 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:33:04pm

re: #658 Cognito
Just having a little fun, on my part anyway. I do however think an iPod is not an appropriate gift.

665 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:33:10pm

re: #660 J.S.

Actually, it's the British who typically go beserk about breaches with protocol...(they went bonkers about an Australian Prime Minister who had the audacity to go "touchy, touchy" with The Queen..) There's an explanation for the "no touch" rule...it's hilarious...

You have a link other than Throbert's? ;)

666 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:33:17pm

re: #651 ArmyWife

Oh. Well then. That makes it much more specialer.

Was it engraved at a Things Remembered Kiosk at the mall on the way to the airport?


I don't know about that but I bet they added some bling to it.

667 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:33:24pm

re: #647 Killgore Trout

Outrage! Scandal! Socialism! Rudeness!

The Queen and Mrs. Obama: Did the First Lady Break Protocol?
Panic! Revolt! Tea Party!

We must now prepare to defend ourselves from canonball and musket fire!

//

668 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:33:46pm

re: #647 Killgore Trout

Outrage! Scandal! Socialism! Rudeness!

The Queen and Mrs. Obama: Did the First Lady Break Protocol?
Panic! Revolt! Tea Party!

D'ya really think the Tea Party people give a rat's ass?

Or is it just fun to shout "TEA PARTY" at every possible occasion?

Or are you inviting us to tea? In which case I shall certainly come.

/

669 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:33:48pm

re: #655 Charles

I'd grab her bum at tea.

670 nyc redneck  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:33:50pm

re: #647 Killgore Trout

Outrage! Scandal! Socialism! Rudeness!

The Queen and Mrs. Obama: Did the First Lady Break Protocol?
Panic! Revolt! Tea Party!

and the woman in that photo, tho she is putting the evil eye on someone, is
none the less, described as the next jackie o.

671 Cognito  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:34:07pm

Ach, boo on me.

"Breach."

672 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:34:08pm

re: #655 Charles

Britain could use a little more Queen-touching if you ask me.


That's what Elton John said.

673 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:34:15pm

re: #667 Gus 802

Ha!

674 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:34:17pm

re: #665 FurryOldGuyJeans

A link to which topic, please?

675 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:34:18pm

re: #658 Cognito

It's a bit rich, the huff-and-puffery happening in some quarters, over the Obamas' so-called breech of protocol with the Queen of England.

Who cares? Neither of them walked in and slapped her face, or challenged her to a duel, or spit in her tea.

Stiffen up, guys. Because this new-found sensitivity to royal delicacies smacks of sour grapes among the American electorate.

how do you know that?...new found?...why don't you elaborate

676 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:34:19pm

re: #651 ArmyWife

Oh. Well then. That makes it much more specialer.

Was it engraved at a Things Remembered Kiosk at the mall on the way to the airport?

Nah. He just borrowed a pocket knife from one of the Secret Service and did it himself.
At least he didn't give her a plastic Marine One helicopter model.

677 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:34:20pm

re: #658 Cognito

It's a bit rich, the huff-and-puffery happening in some quarters, over the Obamas' so-called breech of protocol with the Queen of England.

Who cares? Neither of them walked in and slapped her face, or challenged her to a duel, or spit in her tea.

Stiffen up, guys. Because this new-found sensitivity to royal delicacies smacks of sour grapes among the American electorate.

Perhaps it has to do with years of hearing about what a boor Bush was, but now we have the most classless occupants of the White House ever.

678 jaunte  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:34:43pm

I think I'd give the Queen something from Roanoke.

679 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:35:02pm

re: #668 OldLineTexan

Or is it just fun to shout "TEA PARTY" at every possible occasion?


Yes, I find in rather humourous.

680 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:35:15pm

re: #593 Alouette

That outfit Michelle is wearing makes her butt look really, really, really HUGE

Probably because her butt is actually really, really, really huge.

681 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:35:33pm

re: #678 jaunte

I think I'd give the Queen something from Roanoke.

Oh come one. We have some nice "electronics" here made in China. //

682 albusteve  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:35:44pm

re: #669 Killgore Trout

I'd grab her bum at tea.

closest you'd get to a female in 20 yrs

683 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:35:46pm

re: #643 Dr. Shalit

It seems they just stop off at a store to grab something quickly while on the way - you know, like one of us would do on the way to a dinner party only we'd have the sense to buy a semi-decent bottle of wine.

If you don't come by good taste naturally (and the Obama's are CLEARLY lacking in this department), someone could google "Queen Elizabeth" and learn all sorts of things, like her love of Corgis. That could open up all sorts of possibilities - such as a piece of commissioned art work from a legitimate artist. Though something tells me had someone found this out, the Queen would have opened kitchen towels with Corgis emblazoned on them - or worse, one of those picture blankets with the picture of the Queen and her pets.

Perhaps I shouldn't be too hasty with my iPod criticism now that I think on it more!

684 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:35:51pm

re: #674 J.S.

A link to which topic, please?

There's an explanation for the "no touch" rule...it's hilarious...

685 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:35:59pm

re: #661 buzzsawmonkey

Wow. That is amazing. I actually have considered both sides in that argument, but it is a tough pill to swallow remembering back to the Elian fiasco.

What I think about more, is how his mother died trying to get him out of Cuba.

Makes a bit to think about.

686 jaunte  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:36:16pm

re: #681 Gus 802

Citizens of the world, man!

687 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:36:28pm

re: #669 Killgore Trout

I'd grab her bum at tea.

You're a cheeky monkey!

688 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:36:33pm

re: #660 J.S.

BBC did a really cool mini series on the royal staff. It was fascinating. There's a guy that does nothing but maintains the clocks in the palaces.

689 mikeymom  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:36:55pm

i'm surprized he didn't give her some pooper scoopers and plastic bags to use for all her corgis. hey--wasnt he supposed to get his new pooch the first part of april?

690 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:37:02pm

re: #678 jaunte
Something handmade, a bookcase, a chair, sculpture. Something other than a fucking iPod.

691 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:37:11pm

re: #687 OldLineTexan

Tally ho!

692 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:37:14pm

re: #683 ArmyWife

It seems they just stop off at a store to grab something quickly while on the way - you know, like one of us would do on the way to a dinner party only we'd have the sense to buy a semi-decent bottle of wine.

If you don't come by good taste naturally (and the Obama's are CLEARLY lacking in this department), someone could google "Queen Elizabeth" and learn all sorts of things, like her love of Corgis. That could open up all sorts of possibilities - such as a piece of commissioned art work from a legitimate artist. Though something tells me had someone found this out, the Queen would have opened kitchen towels with Corgis emblazoned on them - or worse, one of those picture blankets with the picture of the Queen and her pets.

Perhaps I shouldn't be too hasty with my iPod criticism now that I think on it more!

Is there a "Corgis Playing Cards" painting?

693 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:37:17pm

re: #677 Aviator

Perhaps it has to do with years of hearing about what a boor Bush was, but now we have the most classless occupants of the White House ever.

Big time up-dings.......

694 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:37:20pm

The "No touchy the Queen" rule goes back to the days when people with hideous diseases believed that by touching royalty they'd be cured of the disease...look up scrofula at wiki...(nice pictures included.) it's a British obsession, not American.

695 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:37:23pm

re: #686 jaunte

Citizens of the world, man!

Yeah, if this was the 70s Obama would have brought an 8-Track player to the Queen.

696 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:37:44pm

You would have thought that the protocol director (or whatever their title is) would have worked overtime to make up for the Gordon Brown fiasco.

697 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:37:45pm

OT: Silicon Graphics goes bye-bye

Was a day when these guys were big news.

698 Dianna  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:38:29pm

re: #697 itellu3times

OT: Silicon Graphics goes bye-bye

Was a day when these guys were big news.

They were making very high end servers just last year.

699 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:38:40pm

I thought I saw the Queen wanted a new iPod.

700 jaunte  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:38:42pm

re: #696 livefreeor die

I think that position might be replaced by an online poll, but then everyone would be getting Ron Paul.

701 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:38:42pm

re: #692 Aviator

Is there a "Corgis Playing Cards" painting?

Make sure it's a velvet one.

702 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:38:43pm

re: #680 reine.de.tout

Alright, I do my best not to entertain those type of posts.

I will sit back and laugh to myself.

But that picture is just not flattering at all.

Sir Mix-a-lot would be proud.

703 Aviator  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:38:50pm

re: #696 livefreeor die

You would have thought that the protocol director (or whatever their title is) would have worked overtime to make up for the Gordon Brown fiasco.

Sadly, they most likely did.

704 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:38:53pm

re: #692 Aviator

Is there a "Corgis Playing Cards" painting?

In velvet?

705 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:38:56pm

re: #680 reine.de.tout

Probably because her butt is actually really, really, really huge.

Michelle: "I talked to the Queen, and she said I looked smashing."
Barry: "Did she say anything about that great big bum of yours?"
Michelle: "Your name never even came up!"

706 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:39:36pm

re: #679 Killgore Trout

Yes, I find in rather humourous.

HA!

707 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:39:37pm

The Queen got an iPod in 2005

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

708 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:39:58pm

re: #660 J.S.

Actually, it's the British who typically go beserk about breaches with protocol...(they went bonkers about an Australian Prime Minister who had the audacity to go "touchy, touchy" with The Queen..) There's an explanation for the "no touch" rule...it's hilarious...

They dubbed him "The Lizard of Oz"

709 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:40:10pm

re: #690 pingjockey

Something handmade, a bookcase, a chair, sculpture. Something other than a fucking iPod.

The Queen was also given a song book autographed by Richard Rogers, so the iPod is not a last minute "oh, shit we need a gift" thing.

710 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:40:36pm

re: #688 Killgore Trout

did you hear about the ravens and tending to "Da Birds"? (during the bird flu panic/scare, there were lots of articles published here in Canada to ward off fears about dying Ravens in Britain -- it's another superstition of the Brits about Da Birds croaking and the British falling -- as if their Empire still existed...)

711 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:40:44pm

re: #699 Sharmuta

I thought I saw the Queen wanted a new iPod.

Yes, she wanted the new iPod No-Touch!

712 LGoPs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:40:45pm

Gotta run and nurse my new found sensitivity to royal delicacies. Take care lizards.

713 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:41:05pm

re: #709 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ah ha. That is much better.

714 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:41:08pm

Scientists take another stab at nuclear fusion

/and you thought the LHC was potentially dangerous

715 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:41:16pm

re: #683 ArmyWife

Army Wife -

A Velvet Blacklight Painting of Corgis Playing Poker would have been better.

-S-

716 Aye Pod  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:41:18pm

re: #655 Charles

Britain could use a little more Queen-touching if you ask me.

Splutter!(monocle falls into drink)

I demand that you uncouth Americans unhand her divine majesty this instant!/

717 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:41:34pm

She's hip, the Queen.

718 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:42:14pm

re: #695 Gus 802

Yeah, if this was the 70s Obama would have brought an 8-Track player to the Queen.


Freddie Mercury or Elizabeth?

719 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:42:16pm

re: #696 livefreeor die

You would have thought that the protocol director (or whatever their title is) would have worked overtime to make up for the Gordon Brown fiasco.

It looks like they did because in addition to the iPod (stuffed with pictures and video of the Queen's visit to the US in 2007), there was a gift of a songbook signed by Richard Rogers. The iPod was not a last minute "oh shit no gift" fumble.

720 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:42:41pm

re: #677 Aviator

Perhaps it has to do with years of hearing about what a boor Bush was, but now we have the most classless occupants of the White House ever.

Oh hardly. They have a long way to go to top the three ring circus that was the Clinton White House.

Markie Post jumping on the bed in the Lincoln Bedroom, Craig Livingstone making photocopies of boxes of FBI files, Billy Jeff getting a hummer from the intern in his office while chatting with Dick Morris on the phone, Stephanopolous tossing McDonalds bags all over his office, half the staff didn't even get security clearances for months after they started working, and Hillary telling secret service to stay the F* out of my sight.

721 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:43:03pm

re: #709 FurryOldGuyJeans

The Queen was also given a song book autographed by Richard Rogers, so the iPod is not a last minute "oh, shit we need a gift" thing.

Yep, here's more:
"Obama and first lady Michelle Obama also presented the queen with a rare coffee table book of songs by composers Richard Rodgers and Lorenz Hart that Rodgers had signed in May 1952.
To bring the 240-plus page book to life, the iPod was loaded with 40 classic show tunes, including several from "Camelot," which was based on the King Arthur legend, and "My Fair Lady," which was set in London."

The White House gift lady may get a pass on this one.l

722 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:43:16pm

re: #719 FurryOldGuyJeans

It looks like they did because in addition to the iPod (stuffed with pictures and video of the Queen's visit to the US in 2007), there was a gift of a songbook signed by Richard Rogers. The iPod was not a last minute "oh shit no gift" fumble.

They should have just stuck with the song book.

723 Pietr  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:43:20pm

re: #656 Aviator

Nah, Michelle did it with her nail file on the plane.

I guessed it was Biden, with a Hammer, in the Executive Office Building....someone look and see who's right, PLEASE.......

///////

724 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:43:34pm

re: #699 Sharmuta

I thought I saw the Queen wanted a new iPod.

I thought I saw that too.
This ipod plays videos in addition to music.
I thought I saw that she asked for it.

725 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:43:55pm

re: #718 _RememberTonyC

Freddie Mercury or Elizabeth?

Liz.

726 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:43:57pm

re: #656 Aviator

Nah, Michelle did it with her nail file on the plane.


FTFY

727 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:44:15pm

They could have bought the Queen some more of those Walmart dresses that she likes so much.

728 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:44:31pm

re: #698 Dianna

They were making very high end servers just last year.

It's a tough market. I work for a competitor.

729 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:44:50pm

re: #721 avanti

Yep, here's more:
"Obama and first lady Michelle Obama also presented the queen with a rare coffee table book of songs by composers Richard Rodgers and Lorenz Hart that Rodgers had signed in May 1952.
To bring the 240-plus page book to life, the iPod was loaded with 40 classic show tunes, including several from "Camelot," which was based on the King Arthur legend, and "My Fair Lady," which was set in London."

The White House gift lady may get a pass on this one.l

Definitely a gift fit for a Queen.

730 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:45:06pm

re: #690 pingjockey

Something handmade, a bookcase, a chair, sculpture. Something other than a fucking iPod.

Hey, all the Obama's got was the Queen's standard gift to everyone, a signed picture in a silver frame.

/call it even

731 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:45:15pm

re: #724 reine.de.tout

I thought I saw that too.
This ipod plays videos in addition to music.
I thought I saw that she asked for it.

She's a hip lady. Nothing wrong with giving a gift somebody wants.

732 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:45:22pm

re: #717 Sharmuta
I have participated in 3 brawls due to the Queen. 2 cause some fool insulted the Queen while I was getting pissed with Brit sailors and one other where some idiot insulted the Queen Mum. Also while drinking with Brit sailors. The fool who insulted the Mum was lucky to escape with his life. I of course in the spirit of Anglo-American unity helped pummel the unfortunate jackasses who did the insulting.

733 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:45:33pm

re: #721 avanti

Never fear, you'd be at the head of the line to offer forgiveness. I'm not so lenient, especially since this is the SECOND UK gift giving fuck up.

734 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:45:36pm

re: #725 Gus 802

Liz.

i wonder if anyone has EVER called her "Liz?"

735 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:45:56pm

re: #694 J.S.

The "No touchy the Queen" rule goes back to the days when people with hideous diseases believed that by touching royalty they'd be cured of the disease...look up scrofula at wiki...(nice pictures included.) it's a British obsession, not American.

Will the Brits be offended, or just let the first lady slide since the queen grabbed her large ass first :)

736 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:45:56pm

re: #714 Killian Bundy

Scientists take another stab at nuclear fusion

/and you thought the LHC was potentially dangerous

Stab, ouch.

This at the National Ignition Facility.

I think Obama will want one of these at the White House, to light his cigs.

737 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:46:27pm

re: #720 Mich-again

Markie Post jumping on the bed in the Lincoln Bedroom.

Tell me you have a video.

738 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:46:33pm

re: #734 _RememberTonyC

i wonder if anyone has EVER called her "Liz?"

Got me.

Here comes the musket and canon ball fire again!

//Boom!

739 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:46:34pm

re: #694 J.S.

The "No touchy the Queen" rule goes back to the days when people with hideous diseases believed that by touching royalty they'd be cured of the disease...look up scrofula at wiki...(nice pictures included.) it's a British obsession, not American.

Well, people are always saying that liberalism is a disease...

740 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:46:42pm

re: #680 reine.de.tout

Again, the First Lady needs the services of (cue music of some sort) ArmyWife Fashion tips!

Michelle, dear, an a line skirt can do wonders in hiding figure flaws, especially when those flaws are in the hip/thigh/rear area. BUT the cut must be just so. If it gets closer to a circle skirt rather than a-line, it accentuates the hips, something we should not do in this case. At all. This or this would have been a much better choice.

I'm glad you covered the arms - that's good.

741 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:46:47pm

re: #721 avanti

Yep, here's more:
"Obama and first lady Michelle Obama also presented the queen with a rare coffee table book of songs by composers Richard Rodgers and Lorenz Hart that Rodgers had signed in May 1952.
To bring the 240-plus page book to life, the iPod was loaded with 40 classic show tunes, including several from "Camelot," which was based on the King Arthur legend, and "My Fair Lady," which was set in London."

The White House gift lady may get a pass on this one.l

During my 2nd cup of coffee early this morning I read that the real gift wasn't the iPod.. It was all the downloaded footage of the Queen during her visit in the US...The White House probably had Speilberg edit it.
I really hope the iPod and whatever contents on it brings joy to the Queen.

742 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:46:52pm

When's Hussein Dolt going to Italy? Maybe he can make a macaroni picture for Berlusconi....

743 Dianna  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:46:54pm

re: #728 OldLineTexan

It's a tough market. I work for a competitor.

Oh. My Male swears by Net-something.

744 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:47:14pm

re: #734 _RememberTonyC
That's why castles have dungeons.

745 Aye Pod  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:47:24pm

re: #669 Killgore Trout

I'd grab her bum at tea.

A lot of English Daily Mail readers would be outraged by the suggestion that the queen has a 'bum'.

746 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:47:30pm

re: #720 Mich-again

Oh hardly. They have a long way to go to top the three ring circus that was the Clinton White House.

Markie Post jumping on the bed in the Lincoln Bedroom, Craig Livingstone making photocopies of boxes of FBI files, Billy Jeff getting a hummer from the intern in his office while chatting with Dick Morris on the phone, Stephanopolous tossing McDonalds bags all over his office, half the staff didn't even get security clearances for months after they started working, and Hillary telling secret service to stay the F* out of my sight.

Security Clearance .... that one made me laugh ... the present occupant of the Oval House would not even pass a security clearance ... silly little things like that ... but when you are Oprah's Annointed One ... such formalities are so ... beneath you ... I had a guy that I worked with once trying to get security clearance at a job later and the agency that came to ask me questions was very very curious about anything in his life ... he did not get the clearance and I believe it was because he told them he did coke when he was young ... it was at an ammo plant ... he was an attorney who was going to work in something with administration ... President ... not so much security clearance required ...

/wish he would stay in europe ...

747 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:47:35pm

re: #689 mikeymom

shockingly, no one has dumped their $3,000 Portuguese Water Dog at the pound in DC lately.

748 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:48:13pm

re: #724 reine.de.tout

I thought I saw that too.
This ipod plays videos in addition to music.
I thought I saw that she asked for it.

Fox and CBS said that, but who knows if she asked, or the queens staff suggested she'd like one. ( Not that she could not afford one herself)

749 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:48:24pm
750 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:48:27pm

re: #736 itellu3times

I think Obama will want one of these at the White House, to light his cigs.

/a 100 million degree cigarette lighter, watch your eyebrows!

751 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:48:45pm

re: #737 OldLineTexan

Tell me you have a video.

Hmm. Give me a minute. It was in the tabloids. Peggy Noonan wrote about it.

For seven months I have kept on my desk a picture from a tabloid. It is of two close friends of President Clinton, Linda Bloodworth-Thomason and the actress Markie Post. They are laughing and holding hands in joyous union as they jump up and down at where fate has put them down. It had put them in the Lincoln bedroom. They were jumping up and down on Lincoln's bed.
752 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:48:45pm

re: #655 Charles

Britain could use a little more Queen-touching if you ask me.

Charles -

You are probably right, just as FDR served Hot Dogs to George VI and QE II's Mother on the White House Lawn. However, as MEP Daniel Hannan put it today on the Glenn Beck Show about PM Brown - "...He is OUR Clod and it is up to us to bash him..."

-S-

753 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:48:47pm

re: #742 Fenway_Nation

When's Hussein Dolt going to Italy? Maybe he can make a macaroni picture for Berlusconi....

Or one of those shoeboxes with macaroni glued on in patterns and sprayed gold.

754 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:48:58pm

re: #749 buzzsawmonkey
Jughead.

755 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:49:03pm

re: #749 buzzsawmonkey

What do they call Prince Charles, then?


A fag ciggarette?

756 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:49:17pm

re: #749 buzzsawmonkey

What do they call Prince Charles, then?

Prince Charles is Camilla's tampon. The Queen's bum is Prince Philip.

757 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:49:28pm

re: #744 pingjockey

That's why castles have dungeons.

with dragons?

758 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:49:54pm

re: #732 pingjockey

there's an active Monarchists League here in Canada which basically operates in a similar fashion...

759 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:50:07pm

re: #720 Mich-again

Umm...a hummer? Seriously? I thought the oval office phone call indiscretion involved a sex act that rhymes with Horatio? (well, sorta rhymes)

760 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:50:09pm

I think 0bama's a dolt, but a new iPod as a gift for someone who already owned one and wanted a new one is not a bad gift. Way better than a bunch of movies. 0bama can give me an iPod any day.

761 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:50:09pm

re: #756 Alouette

Prince Charles is Camilla's tampon. The Queen's bum is Prince Philip.

and ... Michelle is Obama's beard ...

/kinda joking ... just kinda

762 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:50:10pm

re: #757 _RememberTonyC
Nah, I think St. George made 'em all extinct!

763 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:50:20pm

re: #753 VioletTiger

Or one of those shoeboxes with macaroni glued on in patterns and sprayed gold.

How about a Chia pet model of Michelangelo's David scupture? Or a paint by number copy of the Sistine Chapel ceiling?

764 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:50:43pm

re: #710 J.S.

Brits are odd folks but I gotta admire them. Wherever you go on planet earth, no matter how remote, you'll find a Brit.

765 Aye Pod  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:51:36pm

I have insider info that Obama is giving the Pope an X-box 360 with Fallout 3 and Left4Dead pre-loaded. As per his holiness' request.

766 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:51:43pm

re: #743 Dianna

Oh. My Male swears by Net-something.

Sure, starve my children ...

/////

767 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:52:07pm

re: #758 J.S.
Beat people up for insulting the Queen? I don't things would've got out of hand, but us being sailors, and full of really good beer didn't help!

768 solomonpanting  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:52:19pm

re: #759 ArmyWife

Umm...a hummer? Seriously? I thought the oval office phone call indiscretion involved a sex act that rhymes with Horatio? (well, sorta rhymes)

Clintonspeak---oral office

769 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:52:24pm

re: #763 livefreeor die

How about a Chia pet model of Michelangelo's David scupture? Or a paint by number copy of the Sistine Chapel ceiling?

It's a good thing we don't work for the protocol office ;)

770 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:52:30pm

re: #745 Jimmah

A lot of English Daily Mail readers would be outraged by the suggestion that the queen has a 'bum'.

I'd tallywag her crumpet down the Thames from Ogdenton to Wiimblydowns if the constable weren't about.

771 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:52:34pm

re: #763 livefreeor die

Or a best of Father Guido Sarducci DVD collection.

Non reigonal-compatible and without Italian subtitles, of course!

772 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:52:40pm

re: #759 ArmyWife

Umm...a hummer? Seriously? I thought the oval office phone call indiscretion involved a sex act that rhymes with Horatio? (well, sorta rhymes)

Fellatio is a hummer is a blowjob is an oral favor ...

773 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:52:55pm

re: #741 HoosierHoops

It was all the downloaded footage of the Queen during her visit in the US...The White House probably had Speilberg edit it.

Cool, some T Rex action to spice it up.

774 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:53:14pm
775 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:53:28pm

re: #748 avanti

I read she had one -

The Queen already has an iPod, a 6GB silver Mini version she bought in 2005 at the suggestion of Prince Andrew.

([Link: hotair.com...]

- and even if she asked, I would have assumed it was a joke based on the tackiness of the DVD.

776 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:53:46pm

No video but here is the famous picture of Markie Post and Linda Blubberworth-Thomason jumping on Lincoln's bed in the White House.

Heck, if you rent the room I guess its your right to jump on the bed.

777 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:53:57pm

All right. Y'all have fun. Very early morning tomorrow for me. G'night!

778 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:54:02pm

re: #772 OldLineTexan

Fellatio is a hummer is a blowjob is an oral favor ...

...is a stern denial "I did not have sex with that woman"....

779 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:54:53pm

re: #770 Killgore Trout

I'd tallywag her crumpet down the Thames from Ogdenton to Wiimblydowns if the constable weren't about.

OI! You really booglied the masher there!

780 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:54:56pm

re: #778 FurryOldGuyJeans

Wag your finger when you say that!

781 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:54:56pm

re: #772 OldLineTexan

Not where I grew up - but I'll just leave it at that.

782 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:55:04pm

re: #769 VioletTiger

It's a good thing we don't work for the protocol office ;)

Just imagine what we could recommend for the other European countries-heh, heh, heh!

783 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:55:16pm

re: #776 Mich-again

No video but here is the famous picture of Markie Post and Linda Blubberworth-Thomason jumping on Lincoln's bed in the White House.

Heck, if you rent the room I guess its your right to jump on the bed.

Who is the classless idiot that invited those bimbos? Was it Bill or Hillary?

784 Aye Pod  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:55:23pm

re: #749 buzzsawmonkey

What do they call Prince Charles, then?

I tried to come up with something witty, but all I can think of at the moment is "big-eared wanker".

785 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:55:32pm

re: #740 ArmyWife

Again, the First Lady needs the services of (cue music of some sort) ArmyWife Fashion tips!

Michelle, dear, an a line skirt can do wonders in hiding figure flaws, especially when those flaws are in the hip/thigh/rear area. BUT the cut must be just so. If it gets closer to a circle skirt rather than a-line, it accentuates the hips, something we should not do in this case. At all. This or this would have been a much better choice.

I'm glad you covered the arms - that's good.

Yes, but the arms look like they were covered with a black cardigan sweater. Michelle was in the same outfit earlier, without the sweater covering the sleeveless shirt. I think she would have done better to have had some sort of jacket (rather than the casual sweater) and of course, one of the skirts you recommended.

786 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:55:41pm

re: #722 livefreeor die

They should have just stuck with the song book.


Sometimes it is classier not to over do...

787 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:55:48pm

re: #776 Mich-again

No video but here is the famous picture of Markie Post and Linda Blubberworth-Thomason jumping on Lincoln's bed in the White House.

Heck, if you rent the room I guess its your right to jump on the bed.

Ick. I was hoping Markie was jumping. ;)

788 Wishing  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:55:54pm

re: #776 Mich-again

No video but here is the famous picture of Markie Post and Linda Blubberworth-Thomason jumping on Lincoln's bed in the White House.

Heck, if you rent the room I guess its your right to jump on the bed.

I despise them. How crude.

789 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:56:05pm

re: #780 Mich-again

Wag your finger when you say that!

I was, and banging the desk. ;)

790 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:56:06pm

re: #767 pingjockey

The Monarchists League does it verbally -- if they spot something against British royalty in the papers, on the radio, tv, etc., then they'll be sure to respond -- you know, angry, outraged "Letters to the Editor" (in defense of Prince Charles, or in defense of The Queen, etc.)

791 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:56:11pm
792 Dianna  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:56:12pm

re: #785 reine.de.tout

Yes, but the arms look like they were covered with a black cardigan sweater. Michelle was in the same outfit earlier, without the sweater covering the sleeveless shirt. I think she would have done better to have had some sort of jacket (rather than the casual sweater) and of course, one of the skirts you recommended.

I was just pleased not to be doing a face palm over her outfit.

793 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:56:37pm

re: #770 Killgore Trout

I'd tallywag her crumpet down the Thames from Ogdenton to Wiimblydowns if the constable weren't about.

Anyone else in the states get hooked on the Eastender's ? The wife even has the T shirt.

794 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:56:53pm

re: #784 Jimmah

I tried to come up with something witty, but all I can think of at the moment is "big-eared wanker".

I bet the Queen called Barack "Chuck" more than once, then.

795 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:56:56pm

re: #779 OldLineTexan

Scallywag my humblies once more and I'll give you what for. Marcus of Queensburry fisticuffs at dawn!

796 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:56:56pm

re: #785 reine.de.tout

Yes, but the arms look like they were covered with a black cardigan sweater. Michelle was in the same outfit earlier, without the sweater covering the sleeveless shirt. I think she would have done better to have had some sort of jacket (rather than the casual sweater) and of course, one of the skirts you recommended.

Are they going to have an audience with the Pope? I can't wait to see what she wears to that-there is major protocol around that.

797 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:57:01pm

re: #782 livefreeor die

Just imagine what we could recommend for the other European countries-heh, heh, heh!

The President of Spain gets "a pair."

798 Dianna  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:57:08pm

re: #793 avanti

Anyone else in the states get hooked on the Eastender's ? The wife even has the T shirt.

For a while, back in the 80's.

799 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:57:31pm
800 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:57:40pm

re: #795 Killgore Trout

Scallywag my humblies once more and I'll give you what for. Marcus of Queensburry fisticuffs at dawn!

Is it "Marcus" or "Marquis" of Queensbury?

801 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:57:44pm

re: #796 livefreeor die

Are they going to have an audience with the Pope? I can't wait to see what she wears to that-there is major protocol around that.

I don't think they burn people at the stake anymore who touchy touchy the Pope.

802 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:57:57pm

re: #789 FurryOldGuyJeans

I was, and banging the desk. ;)

My God, you and Bill will jump ANYTHING.

/

803 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:58:02pm

re: #787 OldLineTexan

Ick. I was hoping Markie was jumping. ;)

Ick? No I don't think Harold was there at the time.

804 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:58:05pm

re: #793 avanti

I'm not sure but I think the Eastenders is still running.

805 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:58:32pm

re: #796 livefreeor die

Are they going to have an audience with the Pope? I can't wait to see what she wears to that-there is major protocol around that.

Ooh!
that would indeed be interesting.

806 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:58:43pm

re: #797 _RememberTonyC

The President of Spain gets "a pair."

Merkel gets the Michelle Obama Arm Workout Video.

807 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:59:11pm

re: #787 OldLineTexan

You probably have more in common with the Monarch than you realize.


[Markie Post] is also mentioned in the season 3 premiere of The Venture Bros. when the Monarch admits to "abusing [himself] to Markie Post," explaining that "Night Court was huge at the time."

/just sayin'

808 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:59:25pm

I thought the big term for Prince Charles being used these days was "closet muslim". Boy- big ears, closet muslim.... Anyone know about his birth certificate?

809 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 6:59:39pm

re: #800 reine.de.tout

Me spell cheque aren't objectin'. Perchance I should pop 'round the corner and nick a modren one from the shoppe.

810 Aye Pod  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:00:13pm

re: #770 Killgore Trout

I'd tallywag her crumpet down the Thames from Ogdenton to Wiimblydowns if the constable weren't about.

Her sister Margaret would probably have been up for that, bobbies or no.

811 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:00:23pm

re: #794 OldLineTexan

I bet the Queen called Barack "Chuck" more than once, then.

Well...he makes me want to upchuck....

812 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:01:11pm

re: #811 Fenway_Nation

Well...he makes me want to upchuck....

Chuck, Chuck
Bo-buck
Banana-fanna
...

813 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:01:17pm

re: #697 itellu3times

OT: Silicon Graphics goes bye-bye

Was a day when these guys were big news.

itellu3times -

10 years ago, they were opening an East Coast Office in Tinton Falls, NJ about 3-5 blocks from where I lived at the time, in a strip mall.
Sold one of their top (NJ) guys a Medium Blue Metallic '99 Expedition. Former
"Joisey Boy" and an Orthodox Jew as well. Hope he is well and prosperous.
SGI's Problem, as with others such as CRAY is the commoditization of computer hardware and software. As an Open Office user and booster, my fear is that the next casualty will be Sun Microsystems.

-S-

814 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:01:23pm

re: #808 Sharmuta

I thought the big term for Prince Charles being used these days was "closet muslim". Boy- big ears, closet muslim.... Anyone know about his birth certificate?

Was he vaccinated?

815 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:01:41pm

re: #809 Killgore Trout

Me spell cheque aren't objectin'. Perchance I should pop 'round the corner and nick a modren one from the shoppe.

Just felt like aggravating you a bit.
How's the doohickey for the cats coming along?
And where's the recipe?

And speaking of cookbook, where's my brute squad?

816 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:01:59pm

re: #805 reine.de.tout

Ooh!
that would indeed be interesting.


Oh Yes! Pictures! More pictures!

817 nyc redneck  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:02:03pm

re: #774 buzzsawmonkey

BTW, not to pimp the post, but to pimp the poem, if you skimmed over the Kipling poem in #659 I urge you to take the time to go back and read it, and think of our current President.

he is exactly who i thought of when i read it.
all the indecision and weakness and cowardice and inexperience.
and on top of that, o has all the hatred and racism.
i shudder that this socialist has power.

818 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:02:15pm

re: #800 reine.de.tout

Is it "Marcus" or "Marquis" of Queensbury?

Marquis, also Marquess, below a Duke and above a Count in rank of Nobility.

Not to be confuse with a Marquee.

819 Wishing  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:02:21pm

re: #813 Dr. Shalit

I thought Sun had already bit the dust? or been bought out?

820 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:02:25pm

Look on the bright side. At least Michelle didn't try to inject her with mercury-laced mumps vaccine.

821 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:03:05pm

re: #802 OldLineTexan

My God, you and Bill will jump ANYTHING.

/

WITH MY FIST, not the other thing. ;)

822 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:03:23pm

re: #791 Gus 802

Sweatshop Conditions at IPod Factory Reported!

Qua qua qua quaaa.

What bullshit.

I have personally BEEN there.

And if they get there panties in a wad, I have a big list of electronics that they need to throw away ... including their name-brand computers, Xboxes, Playstation 3s, Wiis ...

The factory is a huge, gray, dull complex, UTTERLY functional. The dorms are effing PALACES compared to a hut in the hills, and people compete for the jobs. They have restaurants, movie theaters, bowling alleys, etc. ... but you gotta remember, it's Communist China.

823 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:03:40pm

re: #798 Dianna

For a while, back in the 80's.

When Den and Angie ran the pub ?

824 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:04:12pm
825 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:04:17pm

re: #818 FurryOldGuyJeans

Marquis, also Marquess, below a Duke and above a Count in rank of Nobility.

Not to be confuse with a Marquee.

Or Markie Post, the bed-jumper...

826 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:04:20pm

re: #822 OldLineTexan

Right. But hey, it's still good propaganda. ;)

827 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:05:27pm

Been watching Senate and House debates on and off all day; I think I've lost significant IQ points. pbtttttttttt

828 L. King  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:05:40pm

When Galloway takes out Canadian citizenship and pays Canadian taxes he can moan all he likes about his Canadian rights. Hitchens is wrong to cite the 1st Amendment - American law doesn't apply here. Instead he should have cited the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:

[Link: laws.justice.gc.ca...]

He would have found that the right to enter and leave Canada applies only to Canadian citizens - we can keep out whomsoever we choose and for whatever reason. That has included Bill Ayers, Abdullah al-Faisal, Malik Shabazz, and now Mr. Galloway. The United States can and has excluded Canadian citizens as well, in particular individuals who's names showed up on the "no-fly" list.

829 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:06:02pm

And I've got 666 karma

830 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:06:21pm

re: #785 reine.de.tout

I was hoping the cardigan was silk or cashmere, not cotton. Oh well. I agree, a nicely tailor jacket - maybe a swing jacket but I'd have to see it on her, they can make you look hippy, too.

831 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:06:28pm

re: #829 CynicalConservative

There now, don't worry.

832 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:06:36pm

re: #829 CynicalConservative

And I've got 666 karma

Not anymore!

833 Aye Pod  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:07:27pm

This Ch4 programme shows why Prince Charles is more than a mere embarrassment to the nation: The Meddling Prince

834 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:07:46pm

Thanks for the karma bumps! Figure I'll have to spend more time here to recover the IQ drain.

835 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:07:57pm
836 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:08:49pm

re: #834 CynicalConservative

Thanks for the karma bumps! Figure I'll have to spend more time here to recover the IQ drain.

Well the good news is that you can still type-that means you didn't look directly at Nancy Pelosi. Otherwise you'd have been turned to stone.

837 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:09:12pm

re: #825 summergurl

Or Markie Post, the bed-jumper...

She was the Public Defender Christine Sullivan on the Night Court TV series, and there were a lot of guys who thought she was hot. I thought she was a slutty beeotch even then.

838 jaunte  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:09:28pm

Alexis Glick is on Fox right now, overstating the 'global unrest' represented by 1. the protestors at the G20 summit, and
2. the brawl between two laid-off Michigan auto-dealer employees.

839 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:09:38pm

re: #830 ArmyWife

I was hoping the cardigan was silk or cashmere, not cotton. Oh well. I agree, a nicely tailor jacket - maybe a swing jacket but I'd have to see it on her, they can make you look hippy, too.

LIke I said upthread, its a going to church outfit not a let's meet the Queen one. A swing jacket might work -- she needs some turquoise fashion ensemble or red...

840 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:10:22pm

re: #829 CynicalConservative

And I've got 666 karma

No, you don't

/ upding whore ;)

841 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:10:29pm

re: #835 taxfreekiller

Though I agree with you, something tells me if you were to be invited to sit with the Queen, an iPod would not be what you would bear as a gift. I imagine you bringing an authentic piece of Apache artwork - perhaps even an ancient piece. Something with a story, meaning.

Plus, you'd tell Michelle the skirt does make her butt look big, go put something else on. ;)

842 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:10:33pm

re: #836 livefreeor die

Well the good news is that you can still type-that means you didn't look directly at Nancy Pelosi. Otherwise you'd have been turned to stone.

Luckily my internet feed was crap today so no video, only audio. Not sure if the [Link: www...] witch of the west) was even in the house today.

843 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:10:55pm

re: #840 FurryOldGuyJeans

No, you don't

/ upding whore ;)

Woot, woot!

844 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:10:56pm

re: #826 Gus 802

Right. But hey, it's still good propaganda. ;)

One thing I can say about that factory that is really really bad ... they have those slit toilets, and in the engineering offices you have to bring your own toilet paper to the john.

845 Bagua  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:11:05pm

re: #840 FurryOldGuyJeans

How does this Karma thing work?

846 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:11:17pm

re: #815 reine.de.tout

Sorry, I did taxes this weekend so I haven't written up the recipes yet. Bamboo cat wheel has been delayed due to my obsessive experiments with aeroponics. I also took some part time work unloading trucks, it's the only gig I could find with my graduate degree in music history. Time's been a little tight. Maybe this week.

847 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:11:23pm

re: #839 summergurl

She should seriously read these posts - we've offered some GREAT suggestions over the last few months. And then send up a big stimulus check as a thank you. She should keep Reine on speed dial.

848 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:11:36pm

re: #837 FurryOldGuyJeans

She was the Public Defender Christine Sullivan on the Night Court TV series, and there were a lot of guys who thought she was hot. I thought she was a slutty beeotch even then.

And what's wrong with that?

/

849 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:11:50pm

re: #845 Bagua

How does this Karma thing work?

Say pithy things that people like, or whore for them like me when a crazy number comes up. ;-)

850 solomonpanting  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:12:31pm

re: #820 Charles

Look on the bright side. At least Michelle didn't try to inject her with mercury-laced mumps vaccine.

Could have been a royal pain in the ass.

851 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:12:41pm

re: #844 OldLineTexan

One thing I can say about that factory that is really really bad ... they have those slit toilets, and in the engineering offices you have to bring your own toilet paper to the john.

What do they keep stealing the TP?

852 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:12:47pm

re: #840 FurryOldGuyJeans

No, you don't

/ upding whore ;)

That's what Fat Bastard told me one morning --man, that really hurt my feelings--- for like a minute

853 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:13:09pm

re: #828 L. King

AMEN

854 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:13:11pm

re: #852 summergurl

That's what Fat Bastard told me one morning --man, that really hurt my feelings--- for like a minute

That long? ;-)

855 Bagua  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:13:50pm

re: #849 CynicalConservative

I mean what makes the numbers change? Is my current 69 good or bad (no pun intended)

856 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:14:06pm

re: #852 summergurl

That's what Fat Bastard told me one morning --man, that really hurt my feelings--- for like a minute

summer ... just mention cake ... FBV will upding you every single time ...

857 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:14:16pm

re: #851 Gus 802

What do they keep stealing the TP?

The article says 200,000 workers, I was told 300,000 workers ... that's a lot of tp, they might have to charge Apple more than $4.50 for an iPod.

858 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:14:42pm

re: #846 Killgore Trout

Sorry, I did taxes this weekend so I haven't written up the recipes yet. Bamboo cat wheel has been delayed due to my obsessive experiments with aeroponics. I also took some part time work unloading trucks, it's the only gig I could find with my graduate degree in music history. Time's been a little tight. Maybe this week.

Anytime, I'm not in a rush (yet).
On the bright side - unloading trucks may keep you nice and fit!

859 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:14:52pm
860 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:15:36pm

re: #854 CynicalConservative

That long? ;-)


Yeah I'm sensitive////

861 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:15:42pm

I just thought of a thoughtful gift for the French leader (I'm blanking on his name right now)-an IPod with naked pictures of his wife on it! I'll bet Rahm would be willing to take care of that one.

862 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:15:53pm

re: #857 OldLineTexan

The article says 200,000 workers, I was told 300,000 workers ... that's a lot of tp, they might have to charge Apple more than $4.50 for an iPod.

200,000? Wow, that a lot of people. I didn't read the article actually -- I just noted it for anti-Obama fodder.

//Doh!

863 jaunte  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:15:55pm

re: #815 reine.de.tout


And speaking of cookbook, where's my brute squad?

SEND REINE RECIPES
or I will draw you looking 'funny'.

864 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:16:00pm

re: #859 buzzsawmonkey

It's not the clothes, terrible though they usually are. It's that she has terrible, terrible posture and projects an air of unease and discomfort.

She could wear the same ugly garbage she wears now and it would not matter--much--if she did, were she merely able to project a pleasant and confident air.

Buzz ... it is the HUGE chip she has on her shoulder ... makes standing up straight really really hard ...

865 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:16:01pm

re: #830 ArmyWife

I was hoping the cardigan was silk or cashmere, not cotton. Oh well. I agree, a nicely tailor jacket - maybe a swing jacket but I'd have to see it on her, they can make you look hippy, too.

Check out the photos in this article. Scroll down to the pic with the caption about Michele wearing "magic pants" LOL
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

866 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:16:39pm

re: #847 ArmyWife

She should seriously read these posts - we've offered some GREAT suggestions over the last few months. And then send up a big stimulus check as a thank you. She should keep Reine on speed dial.

There is SO much fashion help out there. I can only conclude that this is her own personal style and she gets enough positive feedback so she sees no needs to change.

867 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:16:49pm

re: #847 ArmyWife

She should seriously read these posts - we've offered some GREAT suggestions over the last few months. And then send up a big stimulus check as a thank you. She should keep Reine on speed dial.

I agree with you. And yes, a large stimulus check would be nice. I hate to go shopping, but I dearly dearly love to acquire things, so it would come in handy.

868 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:16:52pm

re: #855 Bagua

I mean what makes the numbers change? Is my current 69 good or bad (no pun intended)

Someone likes what you say, they click the plus sign. They disagree or don't like it, they click the minus. Karma is the sum of the two. Yours doesn't look bad.

869 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:17:01pm

re: #856 JacksonTn

summer ... just mention cake ... FBV will upding you every single time ...

Ahhhhh

usually it's boobs or sex...now I know....

870 Bagua  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:17:51pm

re: #868 CynicalConservative

OK, thanks.

871 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:18:02pm

re: #860 summergurl

Yeah I'm sensitive////

Me too, but I'm cynical enough not to care at the same time. //

872 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:18:05pm

re: #865 Bobblehead

Check out the photos in this article. Scroll down to the pic with the caption about Michele wearing "magic pants" LOL
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Magic pants? Funny. Looks like it could be some kind of bullet proofing -- or something.

873 J.S.  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:18:20pm

re: #861 livefreeor die

Sarkozy -- his wife, btw, did a "no show".

874 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:18:27pm

re: #855 Bagua

It's the net total of your up and down dings.

875 AmeriDan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:18:30pm

re: #863 jaunte

SEND REINE RECIPES
or I will draw you looking 'funny'.

No recipes here, but I did order volume one this past Sunday.

876 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:18:31pm

re: #859 buzzsawmonkey

Darling, it's not how you feel, it's how you look.

(couldn't help it)

877 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:18:40pm

re: #859 buzzsawmonkey

It's not the clothes, terrible though they usually are. It's that she has terrible, terrible posture and projects an air of unease and discomfort.

She could wear the same ugly garbage she wears now and it would not matter--much--if she did, were she merely able to project a pleasant and confident air.

If she would do some yoga, that posture would be fixed in no time at all.

878 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:19:14pm

re: #861 livefreeor die

I just thought of a thoughtful gift for the French leader (I'm blanking on his name right now)-an IPod with naked pictures of his wife on it! I'll bet Rahm would be willing to take care of that one.

LFD ... you mean Dead Fish Rahm ... I am thinking he wears a girls ballerina outfit all the time at home ... that guy creeps me out ...

879 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:19:15pm

re: #861 livefreeor die

I just thought of a thoughtful gift for the French leader (I'm blanking on his name right now)-an IPod with naked pictures of his wife on it! I'll bet Rahm would be willing to take care of that one.

Rahm looks like the type of guy that would stiff a hooker...

And I mean not by not paying, just in case you punsters out there were getting ready to pounce..

880 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:19:23pm

re: #870 Bagua

OK, thanks.

It's all good. Lots of bells and whistles to this site.

881 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:19:34pm

re: #863 jaunte

SEND REINE RECIPES
or I will draw you looking 'funny'.

Thanks, squad of one!

882 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:20:01pm
883 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:20:02pm

Will all Lizards please use the power of collective thought and will the fire alarm in the building next to me to STOP RINGING? (90 minutes and counting....). :(

884 swamprat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:20:03pm

Not found on Obamas' Ipod:
Classical guitar with Latin and Italian influences. Truly an American masterpiece.

885 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:20:05pm

re: #865 Bobblehead

Check out the photos in this article. Scroll down to the pic with the caption about Michele wearing "magic pants" LOL
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]


No no no no. That's just wrong. Frankly, I'd rather see the first lady in designer duds, rather than J Crew. She's trying to hard to be one of the regular women. And that sweater is the wrong size. She can't button the bottom button.

886 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:20:36pm

re: #881 reine.de.tout

Thanks, squad of one!

Hey Reine ... how is the Roi ... I am gonna send a recipe ... when are they due ...

887 Bagua  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:20:38pm

re: #880 CynicalConservative

Yep, adds a lot of fun to all the good information.

888 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:20:56pm

re: #883 Bloodnok

Will all Lizards please use the power of collective thought and will the fire alarm in the building next to me to STOP RINGING? (90 minutes and counting....). :(

Oh, golly!
I think I would have to go out and drive around for awhile, maybe even get a hotel room for the night.

889 Throbert McGee  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:21:02pm

re: #609 J.S.

Did you see that comment by Throbert McGee on the other thread? He provided the "explanation" for why there's "no touchy The Queen.." It was hilarious...link here... then you have to go to the scrofula link...

Upding 'cause I'm glad someone got the joke!

890 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:21:33pm

re: #869 summergurl

Ahhhhh

usually it's boobs or sex...now I know....

The way to a man's heart is through his stomach.

Although you can slip the knife through the ribs, too.

/

891 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:21:34pm

re: #868 CynicalConservative

Someone likes what you say, they click the plus sign. They disagree or don't like it, they click the minus. Karma is the sum of the two. Yours doesn't look bad.

re: #874 Sharmuta

It's the net total of your up and down dings.

Classic demonstration between a normal person (sharm) and a basement dwelling gearhead that spends too much time with code (cynCon). Damn, gotta get out more....

892 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:21:38pm

re: #872 Gus 802

Magic pants? Funny. Looks like it could be some kind of bullet proofing -- or something.

Magic pants are what we ladies in the U.S. call Spanx.

893 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:22:00pm

re: #886 JacksonTn

Hey Reine ... how is the Roi ... I am gonna send a recipe ... when are they due ...

The Roi is fine and dandy, home right now.

No deadline YET. Just send what you can. As soon as I have 50 I'll start working in earnest, and set a deadline. I have about 35 right now.

894 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:22:07pm

re: #883 Bloodnok

Will all Lizards please use the power of collective thought and will the fire alarm in the building next to me to STOP RINGING? (90 minutes and counting....). :(

Can you put some ipod buds in your ear?

I hear the Queen may have a spare pair./

895 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:22:12pm

re: #883 Bloodnok

Will all Lizards please use the power of collective thought and will the fire alarm in the building next to me to STOP RINGING? (90 minutes and counting....). :(

Done..please forward you're AMEX number

896 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:22:15pm

re: #888 reine.de.tout

Oh, golly!
I think I would have to go out and drive around for awhile, maybe even get a hotel room for the night.

It started 5 minutes in to a conference call I had with Japan. It was hard enough to understand them as it was.

897 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:22:41pm

re: #822 OldLineTexan

What bullshit.

I have personally BEEN there.

And if they get there panties in a wad, I have a big list of electronics that they need to throw away ... including their name-brand computers, Xboxes, Playstation 3s, Wiis ...

The factory is a huge, gray, dull complex, UTTERLY functional. The dorms are effing PALACES compared to a hut in the hills, and people compete for the jobs. They have restaurants, movie theaters, bowling alleys, etc. ... but you gotta remember, it's Communist China.

Old Line Texan -

Complete the circle if you can - Do Sandisk and Creative manufacture there as well? As an wner of a Sandisk MP3 Player and Creative speakers for my Desktop, I am curious.

-S-

898 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:22:49pm

re: #866 VioletTiger

There is SO much fashion help out there. I can only conclude that this is her own personal style and she gets enough positive feedback so she sees no needs to change.

How would you like to be the one that has to go up to her and say;

'Hey Shelly..cmon here a sec...you know those orange pants you love so much? Well...umm... they kinda look parachutey on you"

899 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:22:51pm

re: #865 Bobblehead

From the link...

Michelle wore an acid-yellow dress by Thakoon

Thats the first time I've seen Fire engine green referred to as acid-yellow.

900 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:22:57pm

re: #887 Bagua

Yep, adds a lot of fun to all the good information.

Yep, and I do this stuff for a living and Charles website gives me many ah-ha's. Too bad I'm forced to develop for IE only. sigh.

901 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:23:11pm

re: #858 reine.de.tout

On the bright side - unloading trucks may keep you nice and fit!


..and on the bright side; I didn't get any callbacks for my applications at grocery stores or Home Depot. I unloaded a truck today in the rain at 40 degrees and was quite happy to not be stuck inside under fluorescent lights selling cheap crap to people who neither need it or can afford it. So it goes.

902 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:23:13pm

re: #885 VioletTiger

No no no no. That's just wrong. Frankly, I'd rather see the first lady in designer duds, rather than J Crew. She's trying to hard to be one of the regular women. And that sweater is the wrong size. She can't button the bottom button.

Does she always wear sweaters that are too small, or are her arms just really long?

903 Throbert McGee  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:23:17pm

The word "scrofula" always makes me think of the Lorax, BTW.

904 SteveC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:23:17pm

re: #866 VioletTiger

There is SO much fashion help out there. I can only conclude that this is her own personal style and she gets enough positive feedback so she sees no needs to change.

Someone, somewhere, is telling here "Girlfriend, you look gooooooooooood!"

905 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:23:24pm

re: #892 Bobblehead

Magic pants are what we ladies in the U.S. call Spanx.

Ah, right. Still, looks like she "insulated" or something. I don't like to criticize the fashion end but her clothes are too tight. She looks dowdy too.

906 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:23:33pm

re: #865 Bobblehead

Oh sheesh. Who let her out of the house in THAT? For starters, it doesn't fit. Wearing clothes too small does not make you look thin. It makes you look like an over stuffed sausage.

I'm all about spanx to hide panty lines. You SHOULD wear appropriate undergarments. But those need to be the right size, too, in order to not cut into your thighs - or, in the case of a pencil skirt, you should wear a body shaping slip, NOT whatever it is she has on.

907 solomonpanting  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:23:34pm

re: #883 Bloodnok

Will all Lizards please use the power of collective thought and will the fire alarm in the building next to me to STOP RINGING? (90 minutes and counting....). :(

That's a rather slow response time by the FD.

908 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:23:41pm

re: #845 Bagua

How does this Karma thing work?

Karma's a bitch, and so am I.

909 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:24:02pm

re: #898 summergurl

How would you like to be the one that has to go up to her and say;

'Hey Shelly..cmon here a sec...you know those orange pants you love so much? Well...umm... they kinda look parachutey on you"

summer ... can I steal "Shelly" ... I just know that would really piss her off to call her that ... I am so using it ..

910 AmeriDan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:24:09pm

re: #896 Bloodnok

It started 5 minutes in to a conference call I had with Japan. It was hard enough to understand them as it was.

How's Japan doing these days? Tell 'em I said hi the next time you talk.

:)

911 Bagua  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:24:13pm

re: #900 CynicalConservative

Gosh, you mean some people still use IE?

912 swamprat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:24:18pm

re: #899 Mich-again

From the link...


Thats the first time I've seen Fire engine green referred to as acid-yellow.


And if you take enough acid, it looks red.

913 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:24:21pm

re: #908 MandyManners

Karma's a bitch, and so am I.

{Mandy} Just for that.

914 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:24:22pm

re: #907 solomonpanting

That's a rather slow response time by the FD.

They showed up quickly, but left after about 2 minutes.

915 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:24:54pm

any NBA fans here? Celtics and Charlotte in second OT ...

916 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:24:55pm

re: #910 AmeriDan

How's Japan doing these days? Tell 'em I said hi the next time you talk.

:)

*bows*

917 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:25:00pm

re: #911 Bagua

Gosh, you mean some people still use IE?

Sad but true. Only IT endorsed browser in my company.

918 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:25:36pm

re: #905 Gus 802

Ah, right. Still, looks like she "insulated" or something. I don't like to criticize the fashion end but her clothes are too tight. She looks dowdy too.

By the end of this term she is going to look like Aunt Esther

919 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:25:39pm

re: #883 Bloodnok

Will all Lizards please use the power of collective thought and will the fire alarm in the building next to me to STOP RINGING? (90 minutes and counting....). :(

Maybe you could take this opportunity to learn some new dance steps.

920 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:25:43pm

re: #868 CynicalConservative

Someone likes what you say, they click the plus sign. They disagree or don't like it, they click the minus. Karma is the sum of the two. Yours doesn't look bad.

For an example of an active poster with negative/bad karma there is always #793 avanti.

There are several people, no longer active, with MUCH worse numbers. In a nutshell, any non-negative karma number is good.

921 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:26:03pm

re: #908 MandyManners

Karma's a bitch, and so am I.

Mandy ... upding or not to upding ... if I upding it might mean I think you are a bitch ... which I do not ... Strong Woman Yes ... so I updinged anyway ...

922 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:26:26pm

re: #899 Mich-again

From the link...

Thats the first time I've seen Fire engine green referred to as acid-yellow.

I do believe that article was written tongue in cheek. Both ladies looked unattractive in ill fitting clothes. I do not like Michelle's hoochie mama style. Not at all classy enough for a First Lady.

923 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:26:34pm

re: #913 CynicalConservative

{Mandy} Just for that.

*smooch*

924 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:26:40pm

re: #919 MandyManners

Maybe you could take this opportunity to learn some new dance steps.

Well I have been meaning to learn the hully-gully....

925 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:26:50pm

re: #913 CynicalConservative

{Mandy} Just for that.

No matter.at 10:25Pm ESt.. I'll Bet a trillion dollars Mandy didn't down ding him..

926 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:26:57pm

re: #920 FurryOldGuyJeans

For an example of an active poster with negative/bad karma there is always #793 avanti.

There are several people, no longer active, with MUCH worse numbers. In a nutshell, any non-negative karma number is good.

Yep, yep. Another good example of a normal person vs. basement gearhead. I just don't like to invoke the GAZE candidates.

927 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:26:57pm

re: #871 CynicalConservative

Me too, but I'm cynical enough not to care at the same time. //

I'm too caring to be cynical, or is it too cynical to care?

928 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:27:20pm

re: #897 Dr. Shalit

Old Line Texan -

Complete the circle if you can - Do Sandisk and Creative manufacture there as well? As an wner of a Sandisk MP3 Player and Creative speakers for my Desktop, I am curious.

-S-

Doc, I would tell you if I knew. I am no expert on the place, but I got the nickel tour of where our products are built, which had a few little "brags" thrown in, like the ones I listed.

929 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:27:25pm

re: #918 Mich-again

By the end of this term she is going to look like Aunt Esther

That's a hoot! Hey, if she's lucky.

930 Truck Monkey  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:27:27pm

re: #846 Killgore Trout

Sorry, I did taxes this weekend so I haven't written up the recipes yet. Bamboo cat wheel has been delayed due to my obsessive experiments with aeroponics. I also took some part time work unloading trucks, it's the only gig I could find with my graduate degree in music history. Time's been a little tight. Maybe this week.

A pretty good living can be made Independent contracting unloading trucks. Some people I know can make $500 to $600 a day *cough*cash*cough*.
It can be done. Hard work though.

931 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:27:30pm

re: #923 MandyManners

*smooch*

*BLUSH*

932 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:28:16pm

Celtics win ... Ray Allen with a 3 to win it ... CLUTCH

We now return to the real world ...

933 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:28:16pm

re: #927 FurryOldGuyJeans

I'm too caring to be cynical, or is it too cynical to care?

Ummm, yes?

934 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:28:37pm

Comer case dismissed

In June 2008, Comer filed suit in federal court in the Western District of Texas, arguing, "the Agency's firing of its Director of Science for not remaining 'neutral' on the subject violates the Establishment Clause, because it employs the symbolic and financial support of the State of Texas to achieve a religious purpose, and so has the purpose or effect of endorsing religion. By professing 'neutrality,' the Agency credits creationism as a valid scientific theory. Finally, the Agency fired Director Comer without according her due process as required by the 14th Amendment — a protection especially important here because Director Comer was fired for contravening an unconstitutional policy." The judge ruled (PDF), however, that the TEA's neutrality policy is not a violation of the Establishment Clause.

Can any legal Lizard tell me if she can appeal this?

935 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:28:45pm

re: #909 JacksonTn

summer ... can I steal "Shelly" ... I just know that would really piss her off to call her that ... I am so using it ..


Yes.. that is what I refer to her as--- because I know it would really get her riled....

936 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:29:04pm

re: #916 Bloodnok

*bows*

Just for you.


937 SteveC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:29:20pm

re: #917 CynicalConservative

Sad but true. Only IT endorsed browser in my company.

CC, you're Good People, but your employer sucks!

938 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:29:26pm

re: #891 CynicalConservative

How dare you call me normal! ;)

939 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:29:27pm

re: #916 Bloodnok

*bows*

Ah, Bloodnok-san. Prease to say "harro" to AmeliDan-san!

/

940 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:29:50pm

re: #813 Dr. Shalit

itellu3times -

10 years ago, they were opening an East Coast Office in Tinton Falls, NJ about 3-5 blocks from where I lived at the time, in a strip mall.
Sold one of their top (NJ) guys a Medium Blue Metallic '99 Expedition. Former
"Joisey Boy" and an Orthodox Jew as well. Hope he is well and prosperous.
SGI's Problem, as with others such as CRAY is the commoditization of computer hardware and software. As an Open Office user and booster, my fear is that the next casualty will be Sun Microsystems.

-S-

When I saw the announcement that's just how I misread it, but Sun was just bought out by IBM, weren't they?

Back in the day when SI sold GRAPHICS, they charged like $400k for what a gamers video card does today for $400. So it goes.

941 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:29:59pm

re: #891 CynicalConservative

Classic demonstration between a normal person (sharm) and a basement dwelling gearhead that spends too much time with code (cynCon). Damn, gotta get out more....

At least you are still positive karma, look at avanti for a true negative type.

942 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:30:03pm

re: #937 SteveC

CC, you're Good People, but your employer sucks!

Employer is good, IT dept sucks.

943 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:30:36pm

re: #911 Bagua

Gosh, you mean some people still use IE?

Fucking-A yeah, and I've never had ONE problem with it. It never crashes. It never freezes.

IE ROCKS.

944 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:30:44pm

re: #938 Sharmuta

How dare you call me normal! ;)

Apologies! Grovels for forgiveness.... (Normal relative to me?)

945 AmeriDan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:31:04pm

re: #925 HoosierHoops

No matter.at 10:25Pm ESt.. I'll Bet a trillion dollars Mandy didn't down ding him..

A measly trillion? That is sooo last century. Bet some real money.

946 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:31:17pm

re: #936 MandyManners

Just for you.

Big Styx fan! Thanks!

947 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:31:48pm

re: #936 MandyManners

Just for you.

[Video]

Second album I ever bought (shudder).

THANKS!

948 stevieray  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:32:22pm

re: #917 CynicalConservative

Sad but true. Only IT endorsed browser in my company.

I asked an IT guy the other day why companies often don't allow other browsers, like Firefox. He said it was because of the add-ons... its too easy to customize FF, and the IT guys want all the browsers to stay exactly the same.

949 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:32:28pm

re: #941 FurryOldGuyJeans

At least you are still positive karma, look at avanti for a true negative type.

Try to GAZE that one, but just can't control myself for reading; seldom reply though.

950 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:32:38pm

re: #901 Killgore Trout

..and on the bright side; I didn't get any callbacks for my applications at grocery stores or Home Depot. I unloaded a truck today in the rain at 40 degrees and was quite happy to not be stuck inside under fluorescent lights selling cheap crap to people who neither need it or can afford it. So it goes.

Killgore -so sorry.

951 brookly red  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:32:50pm

re: #927 FurryOldGuyJeans

I'm too caring to be cynical, or is it too cynical to care?

/whatever...

952 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:32:50pm

re: #902 Alouette

Does she always wear sweaters that are too small, or are her arms just really long?

I just don't know what to make of it. I certainly don't see Jackie O. She had a style all her own, and it was classic and understated. She also had a different body type. You have to dress for your body type and she seems to ignore that and go with anything she likes.

953 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:32:58pm

Here is why I don't understand record companies taking stuff off YouTube ... last week tradewinds posted the below video by Jackie Greene ... I loved the song and then bought the whole album off of itunes ... I do that all the time ... anyway ... he is now my favorite americana singer ...

954 AmeriDan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:33:01pm

re: #939 OldLineTexan

Ah, Bloodnok-san. Prease to say "harro" to AmeliDan-san!

/

Where's my iPod and Marine One plastic toy?

955 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:33:17pm

re: #750 Killian Bundy

/a 100 million degree cigarette lighter, watch your eyebrows!

When you're hot, your'e hot,
When you're not, you're not.
Da da-da da-da-da,
When you're hot, you're hot.

Or maybe he can give one to the Queen of England.

956 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:33:28pm

re: #901 Killgore Trout

You ever consider the armed forces?

957 Bagua  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:33:50pm

re: #943 MandyManners

I switched to FF when it had tabs and IE didn't, now its a habit and I like the addons, especially addblocker.

958 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:33:52pm

re: #948 stevieray

I asked an IT guy the other day why companies often don't allow other browsers, like Firefox. He said it was because of the add-ons... its too easy to customize FF, and the IT guys want all the browsers to stay exactly the same.

Also allows for developer laziness/time to internal market; ie. cost control to only develop to one platform. Blech.

959 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:34:06pm

re: #921 JacksonTn

Mandy ... upding or not to upding ... if I upding it might mean I think you are a bitch ... which I do not ... Strong Woman Yes ... so I updinged anyway ...

I am proud to be a bitch. To me, it means a woman who won't take guff from the LET'S GO TO A SONG HERE, FOLKS.

960 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:34:27pm

re: #940 itellu3times

When I saw the announcement that's just how I misread it, but Sun was just bought out by IBM, weren't they?

Back in the day when SI sold GRAPHICS, they charged like $400k for what a gamers video card does today for $400. So it goes.

Pixar Animation was started to do the visual demonstrations to show the capability of the hardware Pixar was originally incorporated to manufacture. When the animation demos became the most popular part of the trade shows and Pixar was about to go bust, Pixar Animation was split off from the hardware company.

961 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:35:04pm

re: #958 CynicalConservative

Also allows for developer laziness/time to internal market; ie. cost control to only develop to one platform. Blech.

werd

962 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:35:25pm
963 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:35:51pm

re: #951 brookly red

/whatever...

That ain't cynicism, that resignation. ;)

964 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:35:53pm

re: #959 MandyManners

I am proud to be a bitch. To me, it means a woman who won't take guff from the LET'S GO TO A SONG HERE, FOLKS.


Can I offer you an adult beverage (friendly) next time you're in the Portland, Or area?

965 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:36:08pm

re: #911 Bagua

Gosh, you mean some people still use IE?

Bagua -

Try VERIZON for starters. One of our staff women tried to download a video clip to her Verizon/Samsung cell phone. FF3 is our default browser. VERIZON told her by IM that it was Not Compatible, use IE.

-S-

966 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:36:11pm

re: #954 AmeriDan

Where's my iPod and Marine One plastic toy?

I am not Misharr Obama, AmeliDan-san!

967 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:36:48pm

re: #924 Bloodnok

Well I have been meaning to learn the hully-gully....

YouTube gave me this.

968 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:36:49pm

re: #962 taxfreekiller

Gerta on Fox-news is "floundering" attempting to co-mingle reason and Obama's policies.

What? No disappeared co-eds to spend an hour speculating about?

969 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:37:12pm
970 Bagua  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:37:16pm

re: #965 Dr. Shalit

I know, there are a few sites I have to use IE, or I use the IE tab icon/addon in FF3

971 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:37:28pm

re: #941 FurryOldGuyJeans

At least you are still positive karma, look at avanti for a true negative type.

Yep, I'm the guy with the sign that says:
"I'm a leftie, neg me" BTW I prefer negative karma magnet, not true negative type.

972 brookly red  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:37:34pm

re: #963 FurryOldGuyJeans

That ain't cynicism, that resignation. ;)

touche

973 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:37:38pm

re: #969 taxfreekiller

Gus 802

That has been ask prior, answer,,,

uh! no!

Ah, OK, thanks!

974 AmeriDan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:37:51pm

re: #966 OldLineTexan

I am not Misharr Obama, AmeliDan-san!

Ah so, grasshopper.

975 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:37:54pm

re: #962 taxfreekiller

Gerta on Fox-news is "floundering" attempting to co-mingle reason and Obama's policies.

Both eyes on the same side of her head while she bottom-feeds?

976 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:38:22pm

re: #950 reine.de.tout

It could be much worse. Thanks for the concern but it's really not that bad no matter how much I bitch.

977 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:38:55pm

re: #952 VioletTiger

I just don't know what to make of it. I certainly don't see Jackie O. She had a style all her own, and it was classic and understated. She also had a different body type. You have to dress for your body type and she seems to ignore that and go with anything she likes.

I'm sorry to say this-well maybe not-but Michelle Obama makes Hillary Clinton and Rosalyn Carter looks like veritable Jackie "O"s

978 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:38:56pm

re: #971 avanti

I said what I said for a reason, and I said truly negative type.

979 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:39:03pm

re: #956 Gus 802

Not really. I'm a little bit old for that line of work. (40)

980 SteveC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:39:04pm

re: #976 Killgore Trout

It could be much worse. Thanks for the concern but it's really not that bad no matter how much I bitch.

Your bitch is worse than your bite?

981 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:39:11pm

Mississippi Queen

982 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:39:25pm

re: #976 Killgore Trout

It could be much worse. Thanks for the concern but it's really not that bad no matter how much I bitch.

Kilgore ... grow organic herbs ... sell at farmers market ... makes you feel good and make a little cash on the side ... they grow fast ...

983 Bagua  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:39:29pm

re: #971 avanti

Do you get bad Karma just for being a leftie, or must you also be a jerk?

984 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:39:38pm
985 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:39:42pm

re: #971 avanti

Yep, I'm the guy with the sign that says:
"I'm a leftie, neg me" BTW I prefer negative karma magnet, not true negative type.

Breaking Gaze.

Welcome to the conversation. I only down ding you when I truly disagree with something you've said. Beyond that, everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Keep the edge, but don't go over it.

986 AmeriDan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:39:55pm

re: #976 Killgore Trout

It could be much worse. Thanks for the concern but it's really not that bad no matter how much I bitch.

It's good to let it out every now and again though, huh?

987 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:40:55pm

re: #983 Bagua

Do you get bad Karma just for being a leftie, or must you also be a jerk?

I think a bit of both, but 'personal' opinion is the latter.

988 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:41:06pm

I think it would be interesting to see Karma in both Net and in Absolute Value. Now there could be someone with 10,000 up dings to go along with 10,000 down dings and it would just say zero.

989 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:41:19pm

re: #984 taxfreekiller

She should recognize she's out gunned and gracefully exit stage left.

990 Bagua  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:41:38pm

re: #988 Mich-again

Sometimes I feel like a zero...

991 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:41:44pm
992 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:42:04pm

Wow. The Celtics fans streaming out of the Garden and onto my street are unusually rambunctious tonight. Lots of enthusiastic "whoo"-ing going on.

993 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:42:19pm

re: #983 Bagua

Do you get bad Karma just for being a leftie, or must you also be a jerk?

I only hand out down-dings for being a jerk, not because someone has a contrary opinion, hence my explicit wording of "truly negative type".

994 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:42:31pm

re: #983 Bagua

Do you get bad Karma just for being a leftie, or must you also be a jerk?

For some, just being a leftie does it, but I've been a jerk on more then one occasion too.

995 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:42:39pm

re: #989 ArmyWife

She should recognize she's out gunned and gracefully exit stage left.

Greta is to Sarah Palin ... what Tweetybird Chris Matthews is to Obama ... well, not quite that bad ...

996 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:42:45pm

re: #982 JacksonTn

I've been toying with a few ideas along that line. One is completely illegal but profitable. the other is mildly profitable but might not work, Still thinking. There are plenty of options available for people who are a little resourceful and have certain skill sets.

997 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:42:46pm

re: #979 Killgore Trout

Not really. I'm a little bit old for that line of work. (40)

Oh, I thought you were younger. You can still make reserve I think.

?

998 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:42:52pm

re: #984 taxfreekiller

Gerta had Rudy on first , he stomped a mud hole in her bull shit,
then she took on Newt, and that was funny as hell,,

"I'll grant you that, """BUT"""

but monkey moment out of Gerta....

great, now she is going with Newt another round

Talk is that Greta might be replaced by Glenn Beck

999 nyc redneck  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:43:04pm

i did not really enjoy my supper.
then i realized i had german salami, american yellow cheese, an english scone
and french wine.
maybe it was too multicultural.

1000 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:43:06pm

re: #988 Mich-again

I think it would be interesting to see Karma in both Net and in Absolute Value. Now there could be someone with 10,000 up dings to go along with 10,000 down dings and it would just say zero.

Not a bad idea! An absolute response value.

1001 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:43:29pm

re: #980 SteveC

Your bitch is worse than your bite?

Why you talkin' about O?

1002 SteveC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:43:48pm

re: #992 Bloodnok

Wow. The Celtics fans streaming out of the Garden and onto my street are unusually rambunctious tonight. Lots of enthusiastic "whoo"-ing going on.

The Celtics buried a three on OT to beat Charlotte, so they're feeling their oats.

1003 swamprat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:43:56pm

re: #959 MandyManners

She went home when she found out
Said, "Pack your bags
I want you out"
Her boyfriend thought
She was talking jive
'til he saw her standing with a .45
A .45's quicker than 409
Betty cleaned house for the very last time,

1004 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:44:11pm

re: #988 Mich-again

I think it would be interesting to see Karma in both Net and in Absolute Value. Now there could be someone with 10,000 up dings to go along with 10,000 down dings and it would just say zero.

I think one is either an upding collector, or downding collector, but not both.

1005 Attaboid  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:44:25pm

OT
Does Michelle have skinny arms? What are they? Ugh.
No one ever focused on the forearms?

Almost insect like.

/I'm toast.

Drudge your text to link...haha

1006 Bagua  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:44:26pm

re: #1000 CynicalConservative

Were I get confused is on a link posted to an outrageous story,

ding it down because of the horror, or ding up the poster for exposing it to the light of day?

1007 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:44:30pm

re: #996 Killgore Trout

I've been toying with a few ideas along that line. One is completely illegal but profitable. the other is mildly profitable but might not work, Still thinking. There are plenty of options available for people who are a little resourceful and have certain skill sets.

If you ever decide to do anything with small fruits ... email me ... I cannot ship to your state but I could give you some advice ... you might be surprised what you can grow on that space you have ...

1008 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:44:41pm

re: #971 avanti

Yep, I'm the guy with the sign that says:
"I'm a leftie, neg me" BTW I prefer negative karma magnet, not true negative type.

Just to be clear here..I don't think anyone here has ever down dinged you because you holding up a sign that said' I'm a leftie'
It wasn't what the sign said..It's what you said..
I don't care if you are a lefty..It's the way you come off to people...
be well

1009 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:44:49pm

Can we talk about the iPod again? Here is what the "idiot" W gave the Queen:

UPDATE: What did the George and Laura Bush give to the Queen when she visited in 2007? Commenter Eric Blair has located this list a Raymond P. Martinez hosts Ask the White House

President and Mrs. Bush gave Her Majesty a bronze statuette “High Desert Princess” with a personal inscription on the bottom of the base. It is a replica of the original life size statue that is located in front of the National Cowgirl Museum and Hall of Fame in Ft. Worth, Texas.

President and Mrs. Bush gave The Prince Philip an exclusive sterling silver eagle box by Tiffany & Co. with personal inscription on the inside lid.

President and Mrs. Bush gave Their Majesties a leather presentation box filled with a collection of documents from the National Archives. One of the items was a copy of an original letter from President Roosevelt to her father, King George, written in 1938. There were also photos from previous royal visits and a DVD of the footage from the Queen’s visit to the United States when she was Princess Elizabeth in 1951.

[Link: www.stoptheaclu.com...]

1010 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:44:53pm

re: #994 avanti

For some, just being a leftie does it, but I've been a jerk on more then one occasion too.

Plus 1 for honesty. I'm snarky as often as contributary (sp?) myself.

1011 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:45:04pm

re: #988 Mich-again

I think it would be interesting to see Karma in both Net and in Absolute Value. Now there could be someone with 10,000 up dings to go along with 10,000 down dings and it would just say zero.

You really have no mercy for the hamsters here, you fiend! ;)

1012 Osama Bin Asshat  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:45:07pm

99.99% of Canadians had never heard of this clown.

1013 AmeriDan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:45:17pm

re: #1000 CynicalConservative

Not a bad idea! An absolute response value.

Sorry, had to downding you for that.

/just kidding... updinged ya.

1014 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:45:29pm

re: #991 taxfreekiller

I don't think military life would suit me well. I'm not very comfortable abound guns and I have a problem with authority (so I've been told). I'm also "emotionally distant" and "difficult" but that's a whole other can of worms.

1015 Dianna  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:46:07pm

re: #991 taxfreekiller

How this Kilgore,,

they can put critical skills on your DD-214 along with
no age limit on recall.....

John Ringo took ruthless advantage of that in his Posleen books.

1016 brookly red  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:46:08pm

re: #999 nyc redneck

i did not really enjoy my supper.
then i realized i had german salami, american yellow cheese, an english scone
and french wine.
maybe it was too multicultural.

a blimpie's G20?

1017 SteveC  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:46:36pm

TIME WARP!

Comment 999-1002 repeated themselves... twice!

I needs to put down this here bottle.....

1018 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:46:49pm

re: #1006 Bagua

Were I get confused is on a link posted to an outrageous story,

ding it down because of the horror, or ding up the poster for exposing it to the light of day?

Personal choice, gotta go with your first impression in this case I think. Or do both and cancel it out.

1019 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:46:53pm

re: #1008 HoosierHoops

Just to be clear here..I don't think anyone here has ever down dinged you because you holding up a sign that said' I'm a leftie'
It wasn't what the sign said..It's what you said..
I don't care if you are a lefty..It's the way you come off to people...
be well

He could be a hard right Conservative and with his personality would still come off as a jerk.

1020 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:46:58pm

re: #981 Gus 802

Mississippi Queen



Mountains in Mississippi?

1021 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:47:03pm

re: #1009 ArmyWife

Can we talk about the iPod again? Here is what the "idiot" W gave the Queen:

UPDATE: What did the George and Laura Bush give to the Queen when she visited in 2007? Commenter Eric Blair has located this list a Raymond P. Martinez hosts Ask the White House

[Link: www.stoptheaclu.com...]

I think everything he does is meant to insult.

1022 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:47:23pm

re: #1020 MandyManners

Mountains in Mississippi?

Almost. :)

1023 Dianna  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:47:37pm

re: #1014 Killgore Trout

I don't think military life would suit me well. I'm not very comfortable abound guns and I have a problem with authority (so I've been told). I'm also "emotionally distant" and "difficult" but that's a whole other can of worms.

A friend of mine survived basic training, and only washed out in specialist school because he just couldn't keep from wanting to know why he was supposed to do something. I think he'd understand you very well.

1024 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:48:20pm

re: #970 Bagua

I know, there are a few sites I have to use IE, or I use the IE tab icon/addon in FF3

Bagua -

We have it too, told her to hit the FF Icon on the bottom bar when she called. Changes the engine to Explorer (8 in our case) of course. First saw this trick in the late, lamented? Netscape 8 and added it to FF when it became available. Now SHE knows too.

-S-

1025 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:48:24pm

re: #976 Killgore Trout

I have a neighbor who cultivates some obscure kind of rose bush and he sells single sprouts from the bush on e-bay to people around the country. All day long. Figured out how to ship them so they would still be alive when they got to the customer.

1026 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:48:54pm

re: #983 Bagua

Do you get bad Karma just for being a leftie, or must you also be a jerk?

He's an apologist for FuckingCommieBastardBarakHusseinObama.

1027 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:49:26pm

re: #1013 AmeriDan

Sorry, had to downding you for that.

/just kidding... updinged ya.

Grrrr. Just the gearhead in me. Sounds cool, like the idea, customers probably won't have the same enthuisiam as I do.

Thanks regardless!

1028 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:49:39pm

re: #1007 JacksonTn

If you ever decide to do anything with small fruits ... email me ... I cannot ship to your state but I could give you some advice ... you might be surprised what you can grow on that space you have ...


The jokes that beg to be made with that post...

1029 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:49:43pm

Ok, I'm finished talking about the iPod - I'm ready to switch to this:

US House backs new pay curbs at bailed out banks

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

10 house Republican schmucks voted for this. [Link: clerk.house.gov...]

1030 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:49:44pm

re: #1014 Killgore Trout

I don't think military life would suit me well. I'm not very comfortable abound guns and I have a problem with authority (so I've been told). I'm also "emotionally distant" and "difficult" but that's a whole other can of worms.

Except for the guns you are describing me.


GET OUT OF MY HEAD.

1031 AmeriDan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:49:50pm

re: #1021 Bobblehead

I think everything he does is meant to insult.

True.

1032 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:49:53pm

re: #1008 HoosierHoops

Just to be clear here..I don't think anyone here has ever down dinged you because you holding up a sign that said' I'm a leftie'
It wasn't what the sign said..It's what you said..
I don't care if you are a lefty..It's the way you come off to people...
be well

Fair enough, no biggie either way. You'd probably like me in person, as long as we stayed off politics. I'm not nuts about every poster on here myself, but it's still a fun group.

1033 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:50:06pm

re: #1025 Mich-again

I have a neighbor who cultivates some obscure kind of rose bush and he sells single sprouts from the bush on e-bay to people around the country. All day long. Figured out how to ship them so they would still be alive when they got to the customer.

Mich ... easy way to do it ... sawdust or mulch around roots ... wrap in wet newspaper ... put in plastic bag ... get there every time with roots still damp ... Kilgore would be great gardener at farmers market ...

1034 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:50:27pm

re: #990 Bagua

Sometimes I feel like a zero...

*whack*

STOP THAT.

1035 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:50:32pm

re: #1004 unrealizedviewpoint

I think one is either an upding collector, or downding collector, but not both.

How can you say? I collect both. Not sure how much of either, just the net.

1036 Dianna  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:50:58pm

re: #1029 ArmyWife

Ok, I'm finished talking about the iPod - I'm ready to switch to this:

US House backs new pay curbs at bailed out banks

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

10 house Republican schmucks voted for this. [Link: clerk.house.gov...]

Think of it as the populist temptation.

1037 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:51:19pm

re: #1009 ArmyWife

...sigh...
Why don't they see the difference? My sister is one of those great gift givers who always seems to find the one unique special thing that you never even knew you wanted. Of course, a state gift is a bit different, but the concept is the same. They should not choose off-the-shelf gifts, even if they engrave them.

1038 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:51:35pm

re: #1014 Killgore Trout

I don't think military life would suit me well. I'm not very comfortable abound guns and I have a problem with authority (so I've been told). I'm also "emotionally distant" and "difficult" but that's a whole other can of worms.


Wow - what a catch! Single with a cat?

1039 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:51:46pm

re: #1036 Dianna

Cantor voted present. Good grief. This is an April Fool's joke, right?

1040 Dianna  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:52:08pm

re: #1039 ArmyWife

Cantor voted present. Good grief. This is an April Fool's joke, right?

I fear not. Sorry!

1041 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:52:16pm

Goodnight Lizards ... work tomorrow early ... thanks for the funny posts ... ya'll always crack me up ...

1042 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:52:24pm

The inside scoop on the gift controversy from TOTUS. LOL

1043 Dianna  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:52:31pm

re: #1038 summergurl

Wow - what a catch! Single with a cat?

And he's a luthier!

1044 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:52:47pm

re: #1039 ArmyWife

Cantor voted present. Good grief. This is an April Fool's joke, right?

McCotter voted no!

1045 BLBfootballs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:53:24pm

re: #29 Charles

I don't think Hitchens got it wrong at all. The purpose of that preliminary assessment was to determine whether Galloway would be allowed into the country, and when Galloway was informed about it, he cleverly turned it to his advantage and painted himself as a victim of suppression. It worked.

Glavin's point seems to me to be nothing more than splitting hairs.

I have to digress from your and Hitch's POV here (though he makes a respectable enough argument). I think those of us who believe that freedom is worth protecting and fighting for are going to have to get used to stepping on some delicate feelings. Fine, let Galloway try to paint himself as a "victim of suppression". So what? I think a large part of the reason that creeps like Galloway have the free run of academia and most media is because most people who reject the extremists are afraid to stand up for standards of civilization and oppose the wackos. They are afraid of being labeled "persecutors" and "oppressors" for enforcing uniform standards.

IMO the healthiest course in this case is for Canada to stick by its guns and bluntly refuse to admit anybody like Galloway who has known connections with terrorists (or, one might further suggest, ideological Muslim radicals). The second healthiest course would have been for Canada to basically follow Hitchens's preference: admit him forthwith and not make a big deal out of it.

The most destructive course would be for Canada to initially refuse to admit him (i.e. the current state of affairs) and then cave in later under a pressure campaign from "advocates", "activists" and the ever-helpful "professors". It is this latter behavior pattern that leads--and has already led--to substantial damage, as Westerners become increasingly intimidated and wussified in the face of "activism" and surrender becomes the socially expected norm.

1046 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:53:35pm

re: #1009 ArmyWife

Can we talk about the iPod again? Here is what the "idiot" W gave the Queen:

UPDATE: What did the George and Laura Bush give to the Queen when she visited in 2007? Commenter Eric Blair has located this list a Raymond P. Martinez hosts Ask the White House

[Link: www.stoptheaclu.com...]

Army Wife -

GWB is a distant relative of Elizabeth II. Obama's forebearers were run about the bush in Kenya by her Royal Army. Seems Obama still has that "Chip" on his shoulder. OK for a Private Citizen - for a President - NOT so much.

-S-

1047 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:53:35pm

re: #1043 Dianna

And he's a luthier!

He is? I thought he was an Episcopalian.

//

1048 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:53:36pm

re: #1043 Dianna

And he's a luthier!

And he cooks!

1049 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:53:44pm

re: #1019 FurryOldGuyJeans

He could be a hard right Conservative and with his personality would still come off as a jerk.

I'm not feeling the love, but don't forget that the keyboard is a poor translator of personality.

1050 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:53:53pm

re: #1032 avanti

Fair enough, no biggie either way. You'd probably like me in person, as long as we stayed off politics. I'm not nuts about every poster on here myself, but it's still a fun group.

I'd meet ya or a beer or 3, I'm surrounded by people who think I'm the devil incarnate (if they believed) for my politics, and still get along.

1051 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:54:01pm

Sorry- I love a man who can cook a good meal.

1052 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:54:28pm

New to the thread, so I will be brief.
Galloway was denied entry to Canada because of his very public financial support for a terrorist organization and NOT because of his opinions.
He was going to raise funds in Canada for Hamas by speaking.

1053 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:54:32pm

re: #1035 Mich-again

How can you say? I collect both. Not sure how much of either, just the net.

I believe you primarily collect updings.

1054 Dianna  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:54:45pm

re: #1047 Gus 802

He is? I thought he was an Episcopalian.

//

No, he's proudly athiest, or so he tells us.

I don't care. If I were single, I'd be contemplating visiting.

1055 jaunte  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:54:51pm

Just saw this Cavuto excerpt. Unbelievable stonewalling arrogance from this congressman, Grayson.

1056 brainwizard73  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:54:53pm

re: #13 pat

I wonder what the Russians will skin Obama for? Like sending a 4 year old to a poker tournament.

Obama: "Uh, Dimitri...I have these funny looking cards with one dot on each one...just one dot...I have four of them...is that good? I see your gas line to Germany and raise you my missile defense defense shield in Poland..."

1057 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:54:56pm

re: #1021 Bobblehead

I think everything he does is meant to insult.

I would have to disagree that it is meant to insult, the man has no concept of propriety whatsoever, so this is just another example of how clueless the man is.

The iPod, by itself, could have been excused as an "oh shit" moment, but couple it with the previous "Wrong Region DVD" fuck up and the fact that the iPod was not the only gift given shows this was well thought out and planned.

1058 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:55:12pm

re: #1051 Sharmuta

Sorry- I love a man who can cook a good meal.

Hmm, I resemble that remark. Happily married though.

1059 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:55:39pm

Thank goodness someone (BEEP...BEEP...BEEP) with a bag of tools (BEEP...BEEP..BEEP) just went in to the next building next door to shut (BEEP...BEEP...BEEP) off that blasted fire alarm!

1060 Dianna  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:55:58pm

re: #1051 Sharmuta

Sorry- I love a man who can cook a good meal.

But stay away from my Male!

And my neighbor, Charlie. He's also married to a red head who wields a spork in anger!

(Joke!)

1061 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:55:59pm

re: #1039 ArmyWife

Cantor voted present. Good grief. This is an April Fool's joke, right?

We may need to take up a collection to buy the repubs some gonads.

1062 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:56:18pm

re: #1038 summergurl

Wow - what a catch! Single with a cat?

I am. ;)

1063 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:56:58pm

re: #1048 Sharmuta

And he cooks!

One pork chop a week!

1064 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:57:21pm

re: #1055 jaunte

Just saw this Cavuto excerpt. Unbelievable stonewalling arrogance from this congressman, Grayson.

[Video]

Cavuto rules! That Grayson guy seems a little bit light in his loafers.

1065 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:57:32pm

I LOVE YOU KILGORE TROUT!

1066 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:57:39pm

re: #1051 Sharmuta

Sorry- I love a man who can cook a good meal.


Cooking takes one up several notches---

Sexy is a man that can wield a spatula with ease...

1067 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:57:48pm

Pistol is cleaned.

So, what's shakin'?

1068 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:58:01pm

re: #1052 Spare O'Lake

New to the thread, so I will be brief.
Galloway was denied entry to Canada because of his very public financial support for a terrorist organization and NOT because of his opinions.
He was going to raise funds in Canada for Hamas by speaking.

No matter the reason, Galloway has still been handed a bonanza of propaganda he will have absolutely no compunctions about using.

1069 Bagua  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:58:29pm

re: #1026 MandyManners

He's an apologist for FuckingCommieBastardBarakHusseinObama.

Bambi still has supporters? Hard to believe.

1070 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:58:40pm

re: #1025 Mich-again

There are plenty of opportunities like that. Growing Pot and growing dill are comparably profitable.

1071 jaunte  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:58:57pm

re: #1064 Gus 802

Cavuto rules! That Grayson guy seems a little bit light in his loafers.

Don't know about that, but he really made me want to throw something at th screen. Smug, obfuscating ass that he is.

1072 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:59:41pm

re: #1038 summergurl

Wow - what a catch! Single with a cat?


Yeah, I'm quite a catch.
/

1073 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 7:59:53pm

re: #1058 CynicalConservative

Hmm, I resemble that remark. Happily married though.


I think Bobby Flay's wife is one lucky woman---
A man that can cook and make kick ass margaritas

1074 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:00:14pm

re: #1065 MandyManners

What's not to like? I'm quite fantastic actually.

1075 jaunte  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:00:59pm

re: #1072 Killgore Trout

Plus, you are fully stocked with woodworking tools, and fishing equipment.

1076 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:01:05pm

re: #1051 Sharmuta

Sorry- I love a man who can cook a good meal.

I can and love to cook, but as to if I an good or not all I can offer as evidence is no one has died from my cooking, yet.

1077 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:01:51pm

re: #1074 Killgore Trout

What's not to like? I'm quite fantastic actually.

I think Killgore Trout stinks.

(I read that somewhere)

1078 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:01:56pm

re: #1032 avanti

Fair enough, no biggie either way. You'd probably like me in person, as long as we stayed off politics. I'm not nuts about every poster on here myself, but it's still a fun group.

LOL
Now why wouldn't you think I would not like you in person?
Avanti..You have walked the ring of fire and have been pretty fucking honest with your views...I don't agree with you mostly..But I respect your viewpoint.
And unlike many bullshit creationist here..You don't link bullshit..
The hoopster gives you a break...

1079 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:02:28pm

re: #1050 CynicalConservative

I'd meet ya or a beer or 3, I'm surrounded by people who think I'm the devil incarnate (if they believed) for my politics, and still get along.

My casino companion is about as far right as you can get, her dad worked for the GOP. We have a hard and fast rule to never discuss politics, but occasionally after a few too many beers we slip up, and it's not pretty.

1080 KT Smells like Roses and Ranbows  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:03:00pm

re: #1077 Occasional Reader

Fascist lies!

1081 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:03:01pm

re: #1071 jaunte

Don't know about that, but he really made me want to throw something at th screen. Smug, obfuscating ass that he is.

Hard to listen to. We're under one party rule right now. No balance.

1082 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:03:30pm

re: #41 Charles

Sure, they do have that right, but they were wrong to exercise it in this case. By doing so, they ended up making him look like a victim of government suppression, and played right into Galloway's hands.

It is dead wrong to formulate government policy based on fear that a correct action will be misconstrued.
If the outlaw status of Hamas is to mean anything then the government must do what it can to stop fundraising for it or any other terror organization.
For this reason I disagree completely with Hitchens and with you.

1083 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:04:05pm
1084 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:04:18pm

re: #1080 Killgore Trout Stinks

Fascist lies!

Nyet! They are conservative Democrat atheist lies, if anything.

1085 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:04:39pm

re: #1045 BLBfootballs

A couple possible problems with "free" speech. What about an extremist who demonizes an entire class of people so convincingly it spurs some dupe in the crowd to go kill someone. Who is culpable?

What about someone who buys an hour long cable TV infomercial with the intent to spread Holocaust denial nonsense or 9/11 conspiracy theories.

What about someone who talks loudly on the cell phone in a movie theater.

Free speech?

1086 jaunte  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:04:56pm

re: #1081 Gus 802

Hard to listen to. We're under one party rule right now. No balance.

When the lawmakers can't say what the law is, then we're becoming a bureaucratic tyranny.

1087 BLBfootballs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:05:20pm

re: #1068 FurryOldGuyJeans

No matter the reason, Galloway has still been handed a bonanza of propaganda he will have absolutely no compunctions about using.

That's true, but see #1045 above. Westerners would be well advised to lose their fear of being portrayed as evil oppressors for enforcing counterterrorism standards (particularly on foreigners for goodness sake!) -- the same way parents need to lose their fear of hearing "I HATE you!" from their children when they enforce behavior standards.

The fear of these labels and insults is hacking away at our civilization.

1088 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:06:00pm

re: #1079 avanti

My casino companion is about as far right as you can get, her dad worked for the GOP. We have a hard and fast rule to never discuss politics, but occasionally after a few too many beers we slip up, and it's not pretty.

I can understand that. Longtime friend always avoided politics until latest election and the gloves came off; both agreed to leave that stuff out of polite conversation. If you ever get to the portland, or area; we can throw down, invite Kilgore Trout too; that would be interesting x 10.

1089 Gus  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:06:15pm

re: #1086 jaunte

When the lawmakers can't say what the law is, then we're becoming a bureaucratic tyranny.

Depressing but true and it's happening before our very eyes. New Left tactics.

1090 summergurl  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:06:15pm

re: #1079 avanti

My casino companion is about as far right as you can get, her dad worked for the GOP. We have a hard and fast rule to never discuss politics, but occasionally after a few too many beers we slip up, and it's not pretty.


I am not even sure what a casino companion is, but it sounds like it might attract the attention of big burly types that throw you outside on your keister.

1091 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:06:22pm

re: #1068 FurryOldGuyJeans

No matter the reason, Galloway has still been handed a bonanza of propaganda he will have absolutely no compunctions about using.

So we should make government policy on an unprincipled ad hoc basis in order to achieve propoganda points?
NO THANKS.

1092 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:06:27pm

re: #1069 Bagua

Bambi still has supporters? Hard to believe.

Oh crap, I feel a jerk moment sneaking up, nope, it passed.

1093 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:07:03pm

re: #1092 avanti

Oh crap, I feel a jerk moment sneaking up, nope, it passed.

Self control is a good trait.

1094 Bagua  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:08:30pm

re: #1092 avanti

Oh crap, I feel a jerk moment sneaking up, nope, it passed.

Considering I must accept the man as TOTUS, nothing anyone could say would add much to the misery and fear.

1095 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:10:07pm

re: #1051 Sharmuta

Sorry- I love a man who can cook a good meal.

People sometimes ask me why I like to cook. Duh. Cause I like to eat.

But when its Fishsticks and Mac and Cheese, the better half can handle it.

1096 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:10:38pm

re: #1063 MandyManners

One pork chop a week!

There is a method ... do one thing at a time ... do it very well ... and then move on. Works for some.

1097 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:12:49pm

re: #1083 taxfreekiller

hows this from a key board

tfk is a mean ass
loud mouth
bad tempered
topic changing
hard as nails
over bearing
does not give a shit who he pisses off person
who has been screwed around and shit on by liberal ass commie Democrats all my life and am dam sick of the shit
I'm all about getting John F. Kerry on trial for treason
I'm all about getting every last no good Democrat out of the House of Rep's and the Senate.

should be clear

Your pink bunny slippers belie your words ...

1098 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:13:16pm

re: #1090 summergurl

I am not even sure what a casino companion is, but it sounds like it might attract the attention of big burly types that throw you outside on your keister.

It's casino speak. When you check in with a guest, they ask "Would like a key for your companion ?" Better then wife, friend, bimbo, hooker guesses. :) They even give the regulars a "companion" card to get all the freebies and it actually says Companion Card.

1099 CynicalConservative  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:13:35pm

Early morning. Must sleep. Stay scaly.

1100 avanti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 8:14:18pm

re: #1099 CynicalConservative

Nite Cynical.

1101 m1150  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 9:16:27pm

This is not about freedom of speech. If Galloway is let into Canada, he should be able to say whatever he wants while there.

But no foreigner has a right to visit or immigrate to Canada. As a sovereign country, Canada has the right to pick and choose which people it allows into the country.

The Canadian government has made a rational decision that letting Galloway into Canada would not be of net benefit to the country.

The USA regularly shuts out Canadians with radical tendencies for the same reason.

1102 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 9:44:16pm

I haven't had a chance to read all the comments, so apologies in advance if I wind up covering well-tilled soil.

Firstly, Hitch's references to the First Amendment are irrelevant. Canada is a sovereign country, and we don't use the U.S. Constitution. (We might be better off if we did, but that's a whole different matter.)

Secondly, nobody is stopping Galloway from speaking. There is nothing at all to prevent the Fascist thug from delivering his spew, and answering questions by way of a video linkup from London, or points east. Zero, zilch, nada.

Thirdly, Canada regards Hamas as a terrorist entity. People who finance terrorist entities are criminals, and subject to arrest and prosecution in Canada. (at least in theory) Galloway has personally given money and goods to Hamas, has been photographed doing it, and brags about having done it. So, by warning Galloway that he might be turned back, or arrested if he were to attempt to enter Canada, the immigration agent was actually doing the dillweed a favor.

Fourthly, Galloway is a drama queen and shit-disturber of the first water. If he were not whinging about Canada denying entry to his sorry ass, he'd be whinging about something else. It's what he does. It's all he ever does. You might recollect we recently turned William Ayers back at the border, for essentially the same reason; he's an unrepentant terrorist.

1103 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 9:56:13pm

re: #77 Sharmuta

And that's exactly what he got.

And there would have been a media circus, one way or the other. Had he been permitted entry, you can be sure he would have created an incident. You can take that to the bank.

1104 quarkie  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 10:00:08pm

Except they did the opposite of make a big deal of it.

He got denied by the agency (not the government) and when they appealed, the minister (who has the right to overturn it) decided that George Galloway shouldn't be treated like someone special: he got denied by the agency, hence that should stand.

I think overturning the original verdict would have been a bigger deal.

1105 gotti  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 10:18:48pm

I rarely comment on anything but as a Canadian living in Montreal, I felt that I had to add a little detail to the discussion that has been left out.

Mr. Hitchens bases his argument on the premise of 'free speech' and specifically the First Amendment. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, Canada does not have the same laws as the USA. The First Amendment that Mr. Hitchens is talking about refers to the American Constitution. In Canada, we do not have 'Free Speech.' Rather, we have 'Freedom of Expression,' which is a narrower concept in terms of what is acceptable. Some may call it censorship, and in a certain sense it definitely is. However, the legal idea of ‘Freedom of Expression’ allows Canada to be more restrictive on what can be tolerated in the public sphere.

I am not a legal expert. Nor do I pretend to understand the Canadian Charter of Rights. What I do know from my civics classes is that the Nazi march to which Mr. Hitchens is referring too would never have been allowed to proceed in Canada. The right to ‘free speech’ is more restricted in this country, and it is enshrined in law. There are limits to what one can say in Canada.

Canada also has hate crime laws. These laws also limit what one can publicly say as an offending comment can result in legal charges. You are not allowed to “Incite Hatred” in Canada. A perfect example of the censorship/limits on Freedom of Speech in Canada is David Ahenakew, a former First Nations Chief ([Link: en.wikipedia.org...] He made some nasty remarks about Jews, Hitler, and The Holocaust and was summarily charged with inciting hatred. After 2 trials, he was acquitted. However, the damage to his reputation was done.

Thus, while Mr. Hitchens has some strong points that I agree with, one must understand that the environment in Canada is different from the USA. To analyze the government’s decision one must look through Canadian “Freedom of Expression with limits” lenses rather than the American “Freedom of Speech,” where anything goes.

Eric,

Montreal, Canada

1106 allan5oh  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 10:22:15pm

1) Last time I checked Canada does not have a first amendment, and if we did it would not extend to guests to our country.

2) Galloway was denied due to his connections to Hamas, and he is very open about it.

It was still the right move. His "speech" to the people in Canada was extremely distorted and downright disgusting. He is a very misguided man.

1107 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 10:28:06pm

re: #582 FurryOldGuyJeans

I would believe quicker that Elizabeth chose William as successor before Charles would willing abdicate. The furor that erupted over Camilla shows Charles is a large chunk off the blockhead of his old man, and just as dense.

I don't believe that she has any choice in the matter. First-born son, and all that. But she might well be able, if so inclined, to pull some strings behind the scenes.

1108 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 10:36:15pm

re: #692 Aviator

Is there a "Corgis Playing Cards" painting?

I want the one of poodles shooting craps.

1109 BLBfootballs  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 10:55:44pm

re: #1085 Mich-again

Those are part of the classical "hard problems" in free speech philosophizing.

But no government has a real obligation to admit foreigners onto their territory at all in the first place, much less give them a forum to spread insanity to the population.

I don't think someone who talks in a movie theater presents a "hard problem". Free speech is only one principle among many that the US government is bound to protect. Personal free speech Constitutionally, legally and sensibly is not worthy of protection or exercise in every circumstance (e.g. in the middle of an 8-lane highway, etc.). When you're interfering with others legal/reasonable enjoyment of public goods/resources, your free speech "rights" can be quickly trumped.

The necessary flexibility in the principle is why there are "hard problems" at all. Real life is hard and intricate. IMO erring against free speech usually causes worse problems than it purports to solve. Context is almost everything.

1110 The Optimist  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:04:09am

re: #532 Alouette
WTF?
Is the President of the United States BOWING to the King of Saudi Arabia? Even GW Bush didn't do that.
Obama, you realize, is not a king.

WTF is right. Obama is bowing. Holy MF.
Obama true intentions show him bowing to Muslim Kings while ignoring our traditional allies. The U.S. is in deep doo doo.

1111 Mach  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:00:22am

I totally disagree with Hitchens on this one. Galloway broke the law. The freedom of speech argument is moot.

1112 J.S.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:07:40am

Just some concluding thoughts here, as has been mentioned every country has its own set of laws, standards and principles. And to argue that because Britain elected some lunatic, therefore the lunatic should be granted privileges of entry into Canada, strikes me as paternalistic...bordering on treating Canada as if it were still a colony of Great Britain.

Next, the claim of Hitchens about the risk of ever allowing a bureaucrat to claim the power of censorship -- and that if once this is allowed, then it's a slippery slope to perdition. Hitchens writes: "We might also notice that if one excuse is allowed, then all the others are made 'legitimate' also." On first blush, this might sound like a cogent "argument", but when carefully considered, it falls apart. We make exceptions to claims about "Free Speech" all the time. Does one believe that school administrators should allow in an elementary school hard core pornography texts to line the school's library shelves? Does one believe that a huckster who passes himself off as a medical "doctor" who wishes to give out "medical advice" (meanwhile promoting his quack "remedy") should be granted his Free Speech, thereby causing harm to those who are sick? (Maybe in the U.S., but not in Canada). There's fraud, there's misrepresentation, there's academic incompetence, there's libel, there's the promotion of criminal acts (a boss could order an employee to mislabel items to be sold to the public) -- is any of this to be granted a "cover" under the banner of "Free Speech!"? I say, "hell no!" There is a need for legal controls of speech.

Anyway, I don't think Hitchens has made his case, nor has he presented a particularly rousing defense of "Free Speech."


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