Taliban Flog Teenage Girl in Public

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Here we see the people that Hillary Clinton thinks should be offered an “honorable form of reconciliation,” the Taliban, brutally whipping a teenaged girl because she left her house in the company of her father-in-law.

Warning: it’s a disturbing video.

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A video showing a teenage girl being flogged by Taliban fighters has emerged from the Swat Valley in Pakistan, offering a shocking glimpse of militant brutality in the once-peaceful district, and a sign of Taliban influence spreading deeper into the country.

The two-minute video, shot using a mobile phone, shows a burka-clad woman face down on the ground. Two men hold her arms and feet while a third, a black-turbaned fighter with a flowing beard, whips her repeatedly.

“Please stop it,” she begs, alternately whimpering or screaming in pain with each blow to the backside. “Either kill me or stop it now.”

A crowd of men stands by, watching silently. Off camera a voice issues instructions. “Hold her legs tightly,” he says as she squirms and yelps.

After 34 lashes the punishment stops and the wailing woman is led into a stone building, trailed by a Kalashnikov-carrying militant.

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362 comments
1 zombie  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:39:45am

I watched the whole thing. Horrible.

2 zombie  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:40:33am
“Please stop it,” she begs, alternately whimpering or screaming in pain with each blow to the backside. “Either kill me or stop it now.”

Social justice!

/s

3 CIA Reject  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:40:34am

Beating a woman - how brave!

*SPIT!*

4 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:40:40am

Cover your ears. The silence from the hypocritical women of the left will be deafening.

5 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:40:41am

Were these the moderate Taliban?
/ *Spit*

6 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:40:42am

Misogynist motherfuckers stuck in the 13th century.

7 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:40:49am

They are moderate because they didn't kill her?

8 medaura18586  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:40:51am

If a certain American Talibanesse had her way, that would be you there, Charles, getting flogged. Watch it and shudder...

9 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:41:17am

It's time to do something that we should not say on this blog.

10 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:41:20am

Oh dear God...do her screams and pleading mean nothing to these animals?

11 Erik The Red  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:41:28am

I won't watch. I would get the stick if I had to say what I really think of these fucking reject of the human race.

12 Opinionated  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:41:33am

So are these the reasonable moderate Taliban that Obama wants to negotiate with or the unreasonable militant Taliban.

They look so much alike.

13 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:41:43am

Scum, barbaric scum. Taliban Delenda Est.

14 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:41:53am

I watched it too, earlier.
I couldn't believe she was able to get back up after that beating.

But maybe the fear of what would happen to her if she didn't get up drove her. Who knows.

It was awful.

15 Gang of One  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:41:53am

These people suck.
Outrage from NOW and the Code Pinko bitches in 5...4...3...2...

//crickets

16 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:42:13am

Remember in Tombstone?

Morgan Earp: They ain't nothing but bugs, Wyatt. There ain't no live and let live with bugs.

17 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:42:49am

What's the big deal? I thought we've been taught that all cultures all equal.....
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18 CIA Reject  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:42:55am

re: #10 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh dear God...do her screams and pleading mean nothing to these animals?

Oh, it means a lot to them all right. They get off on it, the scum.

19 Opinionated  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:42:59am

It takes a village.

20 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:43:11am

re: #10 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh dear God...do her screams and pleading mean nothing to these animals?

No.
Quite amazing that they are so cold and hard, apparently lacking any human feeling or emotion whatsoever.

21 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:43:48am

re: #10 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh dear God...do her screams and pleading mean nothing to these animals?

No, to them she's either a vile sinner or just livestock. I'm going to go now. My parents are coming to take me to lunch. Good thing too, this one has my blood boiling.

22 zombie  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:43:59am

If you read various articles about this, the real story is that the whole incident is based on a nosy neighbor who had a grudge. A teenage girl lives with her mother and her mother's new husband. The neighbor saw that the girl had strepped outside her front door with the father-in-law, and saw the opportunity to get them in trouble for "consorting in public." The neighbor called the shariah police, who came and whipped the girl.

No trial.

No evidence.

All for the "crime" of standing in public with someone who wasn't her husband.

And Obama and Hillary want to "make peace" with these people, offer them immunity, and eventually allow a power-sharing agreement in Afghanistan.

23 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:44:25am

What I really want to say would get me [deleted], so I just leave it as these people are the boils on the backside of humanity.

24 gruvin  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:44:37am

She never even got as far as the "glass ceiling". What say you, NOW?

25 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:45:08am

re: #10 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh dear God...do her screams and pleading mean nothing to these animals?

It only reinforces their self-perceived superiority over basic human decency.

I am glad, especially in this instance, that I have a firm rule of not watching internet videos. I don't need any reinforcement of the evil intent of the Jihadis.

26 Erik The Red  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:45:15am

With the risk of sanction. All the Taliban must be wiped off the face of this Earth.

27 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:45:27am

Michelle 'Guns' Obama was unavailable for comment.

28 alegrias  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:45:34am

Medea Benjamin yelled we need more peacemaking diplomacy with the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan--not military intervention-- yesterday at Bill O'Reilly on Fox News.

Remember the Clintons and the global community were cool with the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan on their watch.

Cowboy Bush went and interfered and ruined everything.///sarc

29 Kragar  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:45:40am

Nothing wrong with these animals a Marine Division or two couldn't fix.

Not that Barry would let them.

30 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:46:01am

re: #22 zombie

If you read various articles about this, the real story is that the whole incident is based on a nosy neighbor who had a grudge. A teenage girl lives with her mother and her mother's new husband. The neighbor saw that the girl had strepped outside her front door with the father-in-law, and saw the opportunity to get them in trouble for "consorting in public." The neighbor called the shariah police, who came and whipped the girl.

No trial.

No evidence.

All for the "crime" of standing in public with someone who wasn't her husband.

And Obama and Hillary want to "make peace" with these people, offer them immunity, and eventually allow a power-sharing agreement in Afghanistan.

She got lucky too. A couple of months back this would have called for a beheading and deposition of the body in the town square.

31 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:46:23am

re: #20 reine.de.tout

No.
Quite amazing that they are so cold and hard, apparently lacking any human feeling or emotion whatsoever.

No, I don't think they lack emotion. Actually I think it's quite the opposite. They are righteous. They think they are right to whip her. They are not psychopaths. They are zealots. You can't reason with either one of them and you can't cure them either.

32 Gang of One  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:46:31am

Somehow, when it comes to these defectives, all Christian charity in my heart seems to disappear.

33 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:46:37am

Sadly, this is typical for the Taliban, who are not above doing far worse. Murdering girls is a particular fascination for them, especially those who are trying to further their education. Being seen with a male who isn't a relative is grounds for getting beaten.

It's misogyny. Pure and simple. And the womens' rights groups that are silent should be ashamed of that silence (but aren't, because they're too busy focusing on other issues to demand action to save the lives of women put at risk through the imposition of Sharia and tribal customs).

34 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:46:46am

What if Sarah Palin or George Bush had made the suggestion that we should make peace with these "inflamed moderates."

35 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:46:54am

Moderate Taliban? Ranks right up there with Santa Clause, The Tooth Fairy, The Easter Bunny, and The Great Pumpkin. No Such Thing...

*Spit*

/S

36 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:46:59am

re: #29 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Nothing wrong with these animals a Marine Division or two couldn't fix.

Not that Barry would let them.

When it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed overnight.....dial 1-800-USMC

37 Guanxi88  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:47:10am

re: #10 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh dear God...do her screams and pleading mean nothing to these animals?

To their warped minds, it means they're doing it right.

38 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:47:10am

re: #17 LGoPs

What's the big deal? I thought we've been taught that all cultures all equal.....
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Celebrate Diversity!

39 Opinionated  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:47:22am

re: #10 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh dear God...do her screams and pleading mean nothing to these animals?

Are you kidding. It means alot.

It's an Islamic male aphrodisiac.

40 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:47:24am

For everyone equating these things with animals, please stop. Animals would not even do this to each other.

41 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:47:35am

re: #36 LGoPs

When it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed overnight.....dial 1-800-USMC

No better friend, no worse enemy. US Marines.

42 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:47:41am

re: #22 zombie

If you read various articles about this, the real story is that the whole incident is based on a nosy neighbor who had a grudge. A teenage girl lives with her mother and her mother's new husband. The neighbor saw that the girl had strepped outside her front door with the father-in-law, and saw the opportunity to get them in trouble for "consorting in public." The neighbor called the shariah police, who came and whipped the girl.

No trial.

No evidence.

All for the "crime" of standing in public with someone who wasn't her husband.

And Obama and Hillary want to "make peace" with these people, offer them immunity, and eventually allow a power-sharing agreement in Afghanistan.

Listen to the America Haters and you will be given more than ample "justification" for such atrocities as seen in the video, and vile diatribes of how much worse America (and Israel) are.

43 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:47:42am

re: #35 Dustyvet

Like I said, they are moderate because they didn't chop off her head and pin a sign to the body declaring her a whore.

44 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:48:00am

re: #31 ConservatismNow!

No, I don't think they lack emotion. Actually I think it's quite the opposite. They are righteous. They think they are right to whip her. They are not psychopaths. They are zealots. You can't reason with either one of them and you can't cure them either.

Bullseye. Dead on target.

45 Erik The Red  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:48:05am

re: #35 Dustyvet

Hey Dv how are you today?
Please send energy pack

46 axegrinder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:48:21am

Such brave warriors./

47 Catttt  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:48:37am

These men are the lowest of the low. People who call themselves progressives but who try to make accommodation with them are purely evil, imho.

48 Opinionated  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:48:40am

re: #43 Thanos

Like I said, they are moderate because they didn't chop off her head and pin a sign to the body declaring her a whore.

How do you know they didn't?

49 Kragar  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:48:42am

As I've said before, sometimes killing the mother fuckers is the best viable option.

Anyone who put a round into those bastards deserves a medal.

50 Occasional Reader  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:48:56am

Like rabid dogs. But without the excuse of being rabid.

51 alegrias  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:49:00am

re: #34 DistantThunder

What if Sarah Palin or George Bush had made the suggestion that we should make peace with these "inflamed moderates."

* * * *
Pistol packin' Sarah Palin would have been these turbaned jerk jihadis' worst Amazonian nightmare.

52 Edouard  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:49:04am

That's a WOMAN holding down the young woman, enabling her to be rhythmically flogged.

Is this what Code Pink wants for women?

IS IT?

53 Guanxi88  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:49:05am

re: #46 axegrinder

Such brave warriors./

Yes, lions of the jihad, these beasts. They should be flogged till the skin falls off in strips, like bark from a cedar.

54 Catttt  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:49:24am

re: #10 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh dear God...do her screams and pleading mean nothing to these animals?

That's the allure of their whole schtick. They feed off that.

55 gruvin  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:49:26am

You'll never hear from womens rights groups about this because it's the old "enemy of my enemy is my friend" at work. They hate western culture and America more than they care about women's rights.

56 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:49:27am

re: #31 ConservatismNow!

You can't reason with either one of them and you can't cure them either.

You sure can cure them. The US has a great 5.56 mm elixir that has proven effective.

57 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:49:35am

re: #5 LGoPs

Were these the moderate Taliban?
/ *Spit*

Yes, the extremist Taliban would have stoned her in public.

58 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:49:35am

On a good note about this, it made all the papers in Pakistan, there's quite a bit of outrage and there are speakers decrying it in the National Assembly FWIW. That doesn't matter as long as the Pak govt is willing to let the Taliban be the law in the frontiers. Zardari still hasn't signed the peace accord, so who knows what will happen.

59 jaunte  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:49:39am

Medea Benjamin was on Bill O'Reilly's show yesterday, saying that we should be negotiating with the 'more moderate Taliban'. I think she's insane.

60 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:49:53am

Barbaric motherfuckers.

61 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:49:53am

Monsters

62 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:49:55am

re: #45 Erik The Red

Hey Dv how are you today?
Please send energy pack

Doing fine, I sent out energy packs out a couple of hours ago. If not received please let me know.

63 curquhart  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:50:07am

Well, similar things happen in Saudi Arabia and the People's Republic of China every day and they are "our friends."

If we deal with Saudi Arabia and hold their hands in a rose garden (Bush) or bow to them (Obama) then dealing with the Taliban is not really that big of a deal.

64 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:50:15am

re: #31 ConservatismNow!

No, I don't think they lack emotion. Actually I think it's quite the opposite. They are righteous. They think they are right to whip her. They are not psychopaths. They are zealots. You can't reason with either one of them and you can't cure them either.

And they are zealots because their faith teaches that Allah is technically unmerciful unless he wants to be. There is no atonement. Everyone must pay the full price for their own sins.

So everyone is basically screwed, including people who see others committing "sins" UNLESS they can try and prove, through brutality that they were doing everything they could to force people to be moral. It's a control delusion, and the sick belief that if people are ONLY righteous on the outside, that's good enough.

65 Tumulus11  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:50:19am
'Hold her legs tightly,' he says as she squirms and yelps.'

. I won't watch the Primitives do this.

There are no Primitive moderates.

66 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:50:38am

re: #57 Kosh's Shadow

Yes, the extremist Taliban would have stoned her in public.

Stoner Taliban......
/

67 brookly red  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:50:57am

re: #48 Opinionated

How do you know they didn't?

"After 34 lashes the punishment stops and the wailing woman is led into a stone building, trailed by a Kalashnikov-carrying militant."

that does not sound too good...

68 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:51:03am

re: #60 MandyManners

Barbaric motherfuckers.

You are being very generous with such a mild appellation.

69 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:51:14am

re: #59 jaunte

Medea Benjamin was on Bill O'Reilly's show yesterday, saying that we should be negotiating with the 'more moderate Taliban'. I think she's insane.

I say send her to negotiate.

70 Jack Burton  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:51:35am

The only thing I can say about this without flirting with deletion is that I'm surprised that these paleolithic barbarians can count up to 34.

71 Erik The Red  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:51:57am

re: #62 Dustyvet

I may be before my 24 hours thanks.

72 jaunte  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:52:00am

re: #69 Thanos

She's insane, but I don't think she's that crazy.

73 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:52:04am
74 yma o hyd  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:52:32am

I'll not say more than that this is the second day running that I'm filled with cold rage at the behaviour of those 'perfect' men who represent the ROPMA>

Yesterday, one killed a 13-year-old boy, with an axe, because that boy was an Israeli.
Today - we have the public beating of a girl - becaus she was seen with her step-father.

And our esteemed politicians want to negotiate with those scum ...
And our oh-so-cultured lefties see nothing wrong with that behaviour, oh no.
In fact, they can probably tell us precisely how and why it was all the victims' fault.

*Spit*

75 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:52:32am

re: #71 Erik The Red

I may be before my 24 hours thanks.

welcome...

76 MikeAlv77  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:52:53am

re: #9 CyanSnowHawk

It's time to do something that we should not say on this blog.

Amen brother... Amen...

77 midwestgak  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:53:00am

OT 13 people dead in Binghamton, NY

78 itellu3times  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:53:13am

re: #58 Thanos

On a good note about this, it made all the papers in Pakistan, there's quite a bit of outrage and there are speakers decrying it in the National Assembly FWIW. That doesn't matter as long as the Pak govt is willing to let the Taliban be the law in the frontiers. Zardari still hasn't signed the peace accord, so who knows what will happen.

Glad you posted that, I was wondering, and about to say something impolite, or at least pessimistic, about all of Pakistan. Even though of course I know it was never going to be *all* of Pakistan, or even a majority, that approved of such things.

79 alegrias  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:53:15am

These are NARCO-Taliban.

No different from human traffickers.

80 Joan Not of Arc  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:53:25am

Whose idea was it to make a deal with the Taliban? Who? Find him. Find him and kick his ass.
The Taliban are monsters. If there must be dialogue, make sure there is an F-14 involved.

81 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:53:29am

re: #72 jaunte

She's insane, but I don't think she's that crazy.

C'mon, you don't think she would get along with Sufi Mohammed, friend of Bin Laden?

/

82 Land Shark  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:53:46am

What a horrible video. That poor girl! But sadly it's the truth, and the truth of what those evil slime Taliban are needs to get out. "Moderate" Taliban? Even those barbarians are laughing at the absurdity of the idea, Hillary. And these clueless schmucks are the people in charge of our country?

At least we know those protectors of women's rights at NOW are on the case protesting this horror. Right? (Extreme sarcasm lever - ON)

83 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:53:50am

re: #74 yma o hyd

I'll not say more than that this is the second day running that I'm filled with cold rage at the behaviour of those 'perfect' men who represent the ROPMA>

Yesterday, one killed a 13-year-old boy, with an axe, because that boy was an Israeli.
Today - we have the public beating of a girl - becaus she was seen with her step-father.

And our esteemed politicians want to negotiate with those scum ...
And our oh-so-cultured lefties see nothing wrong with that behaviour, oh no.
In fact, they can probably tell us precisely how and why it was all the victims' fault.

*Spit*

Re-education Camp for you....we have an opening at Camp Tolerance

84 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:54:01am

re: #59 jaunte

Medea Benjamin was on Bill O'Reilly's show yesterday, saying that we should be negotiating with the 'more moderate Taliban'. I think she's insane.

No. She knows precisely what she is doing. I think she is diabolically evil.

85 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:54:22am

re: #74 yma o hyd

I'll not say more than that this is the second day running that I'm filled with cold rage at the behaviour of those 'perfect' men who represent the ROPMA>

Yesterday, one killed a 13-year-old boy, with an axe, because that boy was an Israeli.
Today - we have the public beating of a girl - becaus she was seen with her step-father.

And our esteemed politicians want to negotiate with those scum ...
And our oh-so-cultured lefties see nothing wrong with that behaviour, oh no.
In fact, they can probably tell us precisely how and why it was all the victims' fault.

*Spit*

You don't negotiate...You (Deleted)...

/S

86 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:54:27am

re: #54 Catttt

That's the allure of their whole schtick. They feed off that.


That is like in the film 'The Infiltrator' with Oliver Platt where the Nazis are getting off on a snuff film. Sick fucks.

87 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:55:06am

re: #77 midwestgak

OT 13 people dead in Binghamton, NY

How long before we hear the cries from our entrenched political class that even more unenforced gun laws are needed?

88 FlakMusic  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:55:06am

re: #4 Leonidas Hoplite

Cover your ears. The silence from the hypocritical women of the left will be deafening.

Is there any money in the Stimulus to fund the National Organization of Taliban Women?

No?

89 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:55:23am

re: #84 LGoPs

No. She knows precisely what she is doing. I think she is diabolically evil.

And fashionably ugly!

90 yma o hyd  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:55:27am

re: #52 Edouard

That's a WOMAN holding down the young woman, enabling her to be rhythmically flogged.

Is this what Code Pink wants for women?

IS IT?

For those women - sure! Its their culture, right?

Interference, telling them they're wrong - that is 'cultural imperialism', we can't have that!

////

91 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:55:35am

The leader of this group, TNSM, is Sufi Mohammed. When Bin Laden was fleeing Tora Bora he sent thousands of children from madrassas across the border to screen his retreat.

92 MikeAlv77  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:56:03am

re: #35 Dustyvet

Moderate Taliban? Ranks right up there with Santa Clause, The Tooth Fairy, The Easter Bunny, and The Great Pumpkin. No Such Thing...

*Spit*

/S

Wait now... The great pumpkin does exist...

93 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:56:18am

re: #64 DistantThunder

History shows that if you bomb a peoples into submission, they tend to forget any silly delusions of control (see the Germans and Japanese in WWII)

94 zato  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:57:05am

If our liberal media had the honesty to broadcast videos like this one, on national tv, it would seriously dent the flawed lefty/Anti-American sentiments accross the country. Many lefty supporters (including the young "wanna-be hip" students that voted for Barry) are clueless about stuff like this.

95 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:57:07am

re: #52 Edouard

That's a WOMAN holding down the young woman, enabling her to be rhythmically flogged.

Is this what Code Pink wants for women?

IS IT?

CodePinks meaningless words call for peacekeeping forces to replace NATO warring forces. It's just mind-boggling how these kooks think - they won't accept the realities of this world we live. They want to talk to these gentlemen with the whips.

96 midwestgak  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:57:12am

re: #87 FurryOldGuyJeans

How long before we hear the cries from our entrenched political class that even more unenforced gun laws are needed?

Two men led out in plastic restraints. Apparently Vietnamese.

97 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:57:14am

The problem with bombing these bastards into the Stone Age is that they would consider that to be an improvement in their situation......
/

98 Earick  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:57:15am

My only regret is I didn't kill enough of these animals!

But at the same time I would love to see how our liberal ladies of this great nation would handle Sharia law.
I'm bad, I know, but the thought makes me smile.

99 alegrias  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:57:45am

re: #72 jaunte

She's insane, but I don't think she's that crazy.

* * * *
Medea Benjamin and her Code Pink crews are frequent guests in Congressional hearings. They have democrat enablers who give them credentials to get in and harass witnesses and others, while Capitol Police look on and democrats nod at their crazy demented tactics.

Remember how the Code Pink people treated the government appointed interim AIG leader, Mr. Liddy a couple weeks ago while he testified on Capitol Hill? Democrats allowed that man to be hounded by these demented underemployed women who care little about actual peoples' lives.

100 blangwort  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:57:45am

My wife knows how to reason with these folk. She can shoot VERY well. She hunts too.

And my daughter wants to be a pilot. Perhaps when she's old enough, she'll fly a WartHog like Killer-Chick did over Baghdad.

101 Occasional Reader  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:57:48am

re: #80 Joan Not of Arc

Whose idea was it to make a deal with the Taliban? Who? Find him. Find him and kick his ass.
The Taliban are monsters. If there must be dialogue, make sure there is an F-14 involved.

F/a-18. (The Tomcat is retired.)

102 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:58:01am

re: #97 LGoPs

The problem with bombing these bastards into the Stone Age is that they would consider that to be an improvement in their situation......
/

They'd be going forward into the Stone Age.

103 so.cal.swede  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:58:05am

Chris brown = evil; taliban = well, you don't understand their cultural framework or social structure, it's a nuanced issue where there are no "black hats" or "white hats", we should not make rash judgements about foreign cultures lest we alienate them.

104 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:58:16am

Barbarians!

105 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:59:14am

re: #100 blangwort

A-10 is the coolest plane in the arsenal.

106 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:59:15am

Someone please forward this video to Mos Def.

107 so.cal.swede  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:59:18am

re: #53 Guanxi88

Yes, lions of the jihad, these beasts. They should be flogged till the skin falls off in strips, like bark from a cedar.


how poetic

108 Gang of One  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:59:25am

re: #50 Occasional Reader

Like rabid dogs. But without the excuse of being rabid or being dogs.

FTFY

109 alegrias  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 10:59:44am

re: #80 Joan Not of Arc

Whose idea was it to make a deal with the Taliban? Who? Find him. Find him and kick his ass.
The Taliban are monsters. If there must be dialogue, make sure there is an F-14 involved.

* * * *
The Taliban were given carte blanche to operate in Afghanistan in the 1990s. They had plenty of time to develop deep roots and take the country back into the 7th century, and throwing women into the abyss.

110 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:00:01am

re: #10 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh dear God...do her screams and pleading mean nothing to these animals?

It enhances their pleasure.

111 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:00:06am

re: #103 so.cal.swede

Chris brown = evil; taliban = well, you don't understand their cultural framework or social structure, it's a nuanced issue where there are no "black hats" or "white hats", we should not make rash judgements about foreign cultures lest we alienate them.

First, we have to walk a mile in their sandals.

/

112 CIA Reject  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:00:09am

re: #101 Occasional Reader

F/a-18. (The Tomcat is retired.)

*sigh*

113 samsgran1948  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:00:10am

re: #31 ConservatismNow!

No, I don't think they lack emotion. Actually I think it's quite the opposite. They are righteous. They think they are right to whip her. They are not psychopaths. They are zealots. You can't reason with either one of them and you can't cure them either.

You hit the nail on the head. There is literally nothing short of killing them that will change their barbaric self-righteousness.

114 MikeAlv77  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:00:39am

re: #101 Occasional Reader

F/a-18. (The Tomcat is retired.)

I'm thinking more of using an LGM-30

Easier, quicker and more efficient...

115 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:01:00am
116 Occasional Reader  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:01:01am

re: #106 Ringo the Gringo

Someone please forward this video to Mos Def.

He knowz itz a fake, dog! Cuz da media iz lyin.

117 kynna  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:01:09am

re: #7 wrenchwench

They are moderate because they didn't kill her?

Do we know they didn't kill her? What did they do to her in the building with the machine gun toting jihadi(s)? Did the punishment really end after that? I'm not able to give them the benefit of the doubt no matter what Obama and Clinton want from me.

Evil fuckers. May they spend eternity as women under their own regimes.

118 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:01:11am

re: #103 so.cal.swede

Chris brown = evil; taliban = well, you don't understand their cultural framework or social structure, it's a nuanced issue where there are no "black hats" or "white hats", we should not make rash judgements about foreign cultures lest we alienate them.

These barbaric motherfuckers alienate me, they are a pestilence that only deserves eradication, not acceptance.

119 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:01:18am

re: #52 Edouard

That's a WOMAN holding down the young woman, enabling her to be rhythmically flogged.

Is this what Code Pink wants for women?

IS IT?

Code Pink says it's Bush's fault.

120 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:01:18am

re: #106 Ringo the Gringo

Someone please forward this video to Mos Def.

It's taken him nearly 8 years to start asking questions like: Who are these guys we're fighting? What's their goal?
What a good example of the left he makes for.

121 pink freud  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:01:43am

re: #94 zato

They are ignorant of it. But, don't tell them, it would be a waste of your breath. The standard reply is, "But but, we don't have the right to judge their culture!" The alternative answer is, "Yeah, but we don't know the whole story. What did she do to deserve that?"

122 Sheepdogess  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:01:46am

re: #84 LGoPs

No. She knows precisely what she is doing. I think she is diabolically evil.

re: #59 jaunte

Medea Benjamin was on Bill O'Reilly's show yesterday, saying that we should be negotiating with the 'more moderate Taliban'. I think she's insane.

The liberal mind, a wonderful thing to lose.

123 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:01:49am

re: #106 Ringo the Gringo

Someone please forward this video to Mos Def.

Would that ignorant fuck believe it since he wasn't there to see it?

124 CIA Reject  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:01:51am

re: #117 kynna

Do we know they didn't kill her? What did they do to her in the building with the machine gun toting jihadi(s)? Did the punishment really end after that? I'm not able to give them the benefit of the doubt no matter what Obama and Clinton want from me.

Evil fuckers. May they spend eternity as women under their own regimes.

They probably raped her.

125 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:02:05am

re: #106 Ringo the Gringo

Someone please forward this video to Mos Def.

For his enjoyment?

126 brookly red  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:02:13am

re: #114 MikeAlv77

kinda harsh, no?

127 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:02:27am

re: #119 Alouette

Code Pink says it's Bush's fault.

Code Pink's into bondage? That figures!


*spit*


/S

128 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:02:44am
129 alegrias  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:02:55am

re: #94 zato

If our liberal media had the honesty to broadcast videos like this one, on national tv, it would seriously dent the flawed lefty/Anti-American sentiments accross the country. Many lefty supporters (including the young "wanna-be hip" students that voted for Barry) are clueless about stuff like this.

* * * *
Youtube could take up this burden and show the world what & who are the Taliban.

130 kynna  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:03:00am

re: #103 so.cal.swede

Chris brown = evil; taliban = well, you don't understand their cultural framework or social structure, it's a nuanced issue where there are no "black hats" or "white hats", we should not make rash judgements about foreign cultures lest we alienate them.

And Michael Vick is even more evil than Chris Brown. It's a world more bizarre than imagination can create.

131 pink freud  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:03:03am

re: #100 blangwort

Upding for your empowered women.

132 ErnieG  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:03:04am

re: #113 samsgran1948

You hit the nail on the head. There is literally nothing short of killing them that will change their barbaric self-righteousness.

Like the defense argument from a murder trial in the old west: "Well, your honor, that man needed killin'."

133 MikeAlv77  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:03:05am

re: #126 brookly red

kinda harsh, no?

After what they did, not really...

134 so.cal.swede  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:03:23am

on another note, who was it that said that "there are no white hats or black hats in this conflict" with respect to the russia/georgia conflict?

135 Abu Lahab  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:03:28am

The Taliban are Saudis without money.
This is a systematic punishment in Saudi, but videos of that never make it to the media, so the world behaves like it does not happen and the Saudi king in invited to the G20 meeting in London.
Just read this old headline, you would think there is a mistake in it because it does not make sense to any descent human being.
Saudi king pardons rape victim
These are the spiritual fathers of the Taliban.

136 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:03:39am

re: #114 MikeAlv77

I'm thinking more of using an LGM-30

Easier, quicker and more efficient...

Bah! You and your missiles. Let's go with one of these bad boys

137 axegrinder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:03:46am

re: #103 so.cal.swede

Chris brown = evil; taliban = well, you don't understand their cultural framework or social structure, it's a nuanced issue where there are no "black hats" or "white hats", we should not make rash judgements about foreign cultures lest we alienate them.

-the r&b and rap culture are foreign to me. I thought Brown got tired of the squeaky clean image he had and was just dirtying it up for some 'street cred.' Seems it cost him some endorsements. We'll see if it costs him album sales. I think his popularity might increase. I wonder if some Muslims find footage such as this stimulating. I can't believe most would.

138 kynna  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:03:49am

re: #124 CIA Reject

They probably raped her.

Exactly.

139 so.cal.swede  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:04:27am

re: #130 kynna

And Michael Vick is even more evil than Chris Brown. It's a world more bizarre than imagination can create.


yes, if you hurt dogs, you go to jail. Beat women, hmmm.. let the kids decide if they want Chris Brown to win the Nickelodeon awards

140 yma o hyd  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:04:43am

re: #124 CIA Reject

They probably raped her.

And then killed her - because they're not allowed to kill a virgin.

I simply do not understand how it is possible that these LLL women still try to make excuses for that religion, or write about how liberating it is to wear these all-covering sacks.

141 Occasional Reader  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:04:47am

I just happened to put 300 rounds through a full auto Uzi at the range earlier today. That lead could have been better applied to these monsters.

142 MikeAlv77  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:04:48am

re: #136 ConservatismNow!

Bah! You and your missiles. Let's go with one of these bad boys

Nice! and subtle too...

143 rawmuse  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:04:49am

Hillary finds common ground with these vermin.

144 Wishing  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:04:55am

I hate these animals!
And Obama dancing around Europe having a world class party. I despise him as well.

145 alegrias  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:04:59am

re: #100 blangwort

My wife knows how to reason with these folk. She can shoot VERY well. She hunts too.

And my daughter wants to be a pilot. Perhaps when she's old enough, she'll fly a WartHog like Killer-Chick did over Baghdad.

* * *
Thank your wife & daughter for me, may your tribe prosper & multiply.

146 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:05:00am

re: #134 so.cal.swede

on another note, who was it that said that "there are no white hats or black hats in this conflict" with respect to the russia/georgia conflict?

Sure as fuck wasn't me.

147 Opinionated  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:05:27am
The woman's brother is among the men pinning her down, she added. "It's symbolic that he does it with his own hands. It gives him honour in local society, that he has done it for the sake of religion."

It's Bizzaro World come to life.

148 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:05:44am

Hang on one second here. I think we can reach an accommodation with all sides here. These are religious zealots who live only to serve Allah, correct? The "left" in this country wants us to be mindful of their religious and cultural belief, while the "right" knows with whom we deal, and simply want to keep us safe.

By earnestly helping these individuals meet Allah, aren't we being conscious of their religious and cultural values?

Everyone is happy. Problem solved.

149 Kenneth  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:06:03am

How stupid are the people of the Left-Islamist convergence? This stupid:

Taliban threaten to behead Canadian hostage

Ms. Giesbrecht, who is also known as Khadija Abdul Qahaar, has been a captive for four months.

The West Vancouver resident converted to Islam after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and runs a website, Jihad Unspun, that says it provides information “devoid of the constraints of mainstream media.” Her visa application to Pakistan said she was a freelance journalist working on a documentary for the Al-Jazeera television network.

She was captured by gunmen last November, reportedly by the Taliban commander Gul Bahadur, who leads fighters in the volatile North Waziristan region.

She went to Pakistan to report on the Taliban/Al Qaeda fighters (from a solidly pro-Islamist perspective)... and was taken hostage by the people she had planned to interview.

150 Pass The Moonbaticide  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:06:07am

Isn't a Father-in-Law a near enough relative for their jurispudence to consider as her being escorted legally ?
Their Lawbooks must extend to multitudes of volumes, appendices and footnotes such that no reasonably competent person could possibly follow it all.

151 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:06:25am

re: #142 MikeAlv77

Nice! and subtle too...

You want subtle? Go with the CIA. You want it blown up in a very public fashion? Go with DoD.

152 brookly red  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:06:32am

re: #133 MikeAlv77

After what they did, not really...

well, they don't really discriminate between oppressor & victim all that good if ya know what I mean...

153 yma o hyd  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:06:52am

re: #135 Abu Lahab

The Taliban are Saudis without money.
This is a systematic punishment in Saudi, but videos of that never make it to the media, so the world behaves like it does not happen and the Saudi king in invited to the G20 meeting in London.
Just read this old headline, you would think there is a mistake in it because it does not make sense to any descent human being.
Saudi king pardons rape victim
These are the spiritual fathers of the Taliban.

Indeed - and they trickle their poison into all Western countries, building mosques and madrassahs, to 'educate' the believers.

And we let them ...

154 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:06:52am

Clean-up aisle #114

155 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:06:57am
156 TakeFive  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:07:03am

As the father of a teenaged girl, I have tears of rage after watching that.

Fucking animals. Fucking dickless cowards.

How can anyone be so delusional to think we must respect all cultures. This just gives cover to sadistic criminals.

157 MikeAlv77  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:07:19am

re: #149 Kenneth

How stupid are the people of the Left-Islamist convergence? This stupid:

Taliban threaten to behead Canadian hostage


She went to Pakistan to report on the Taliban/Al Qaeda fighters (from a solidly pro-Islamist perspective)... and was taken hostage by the people she had planned to interview.

Irony, thy name is Ms. Giesbrecht

158 Abu Lahab  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:07:41am

re: #153 yma o hyd

Not only the West let them, sadly to say, it sucks up to them.

159 Sheepdogess  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:07:46am

re: #19 Opinionated

It takes a village.

It takes village idiots.

160 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:08:07am

re: #150 Pass The Moonbaticide

Isn't a Father-in-Law a near enough relative for their jurispudence to consider as her being escorted legally ?
Their Lawbooks must extend to multitudes of volumes, appendices and footnotes such that no reasonably competent person could possibly follow it all.

Sha'ria law is determined on an individual case by case basis by one of their "holy men"; there is no written precedent as is common in Western civilization.

161 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:08:23am

re: #147 Opinionated

It's Bizzaro World come to life.

If he wants "Honor" let him take the flogging! NAKED!

/S

162 Wilderstad  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:08:43am

This is the Taliban. Talibs = Students of Islam.
Zaynab Khadr on Islam : " There’s no such a thing as moderate Islam. Islam is Islam. It’s been there and it’s been the same. Fourteen hundred years ago the same book. The same prophet. That’s how it’s going to be for until the day of judgment."

There is no reasoning with them.
There is no mercy.
Just seeing that child being restrained to be beaten by no less than power seeking, self righteous thugs, puts violence and hatred in my heart.

163 Wishing  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:09:03am

So this is what happens when Sharia law is allowed to thrive in Swat Valley.
Idiots.

164 Earick  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:09:07am

re: #148 Creeping Eruption

"By earnestly helping these individuals meet Allah, aren't we being conscious of their religious and cultural values?"

upding!

Kill'em all and let Allah sort them out!

165 axegrinder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:09:10am

re: #149 Kenneth

How stupid are the people of the Left-Islamist convergence? This stupid:

Taliban threaten to behead Canadian hostage

She went to Pakistan to report on the Taliban/Al Qaeda fighters (from a solidly pro-Islamist perspective)... and was taken hostage by the people she had planned to interview.

Too bad we don't negotiate with terrorists. We'll all miss her./

166 subsailor68  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:10:12am

re: #149 Kenneth

How stupid are the people of the Left-Islamist convergence? This stupid:

Taliban threaten to behead Canadian hostage

She went to Pakistan to report on the Taliban/Al Qaeda fighters (from a solidly pro-Islamist perspective)... and was taken hostage by the people she had planned to interview.

Hi Kenneth! The irony of that is just mind-boggling. Having said that, I do hope she comes to no harm. Being misguided shouldn't be a capital offense.

167 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:10:15am

re: #149 Kenneth

How stupid are the people of the Left-Islamist convergence? This stupid:

Taliban threaten to behead Canadian hostage

She went to Pakistan to report on the Taliban/Al Qaeda fighters (from a solidly pro-Islamist perspective)... and was taken hostage by the people she had planned to interview.

She might as well lose her head; it isn't like she's using it.
/SARC, ok?

168 yma o hyd  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:10:34am

re: #149 Kenneth

How stupid are the people of the Left-Islamist convergence? This stupid:

Taliban threaten to behead Canadian hostage

She went to Pakistan to report on the Taliban/Al Qaeda fighters (from a solidly pro-Islamist perspective)... and was taken hostage by the people she had planned to interview.

I wondered about her fate.
So - as ransom doesn't seem to have been paid, and its now April, do we know if the Taliban has made good on its thread?

169 Wishing  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:10:49am

re: #166 subsailor68

Hi Kenneth! The irony of that is just mind-boggling. Having said that, I do hope she comes to no harm. Being misguided shouldn't be a capital offense.

IIRC, this same gal did this once before, ransom was paid.

170 axegrinder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:10:56am

re: #155 buzzsawmonkey

When I was just a young boy, my mama told me, "Son,
Make sure your sisters don't leave the house with anyone"
I saw the Taliban whip young girls, just to watch them cry
So if my sisters ever step out, they're veiled up to the eyes

--Yani al-Kash, "Afganistan Blues," with apologies to Johnny Cash and "Folsom Prison Blues"

Yippie kai ya-

tamin' the devil's herd...

171 CIA Reject  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:10:56am

re: #150 Pass The Moonbaticide

Isn't a Father-in-Law a near enough relative for their jurispudence to consider as her being escorted legally ?
Their Lawbooks must extend to multitudes of volumes, appendices and footnotes such that no reasonably competent person could possibly follow it all.

I don't think "law" had anything to do with it. I think these animals wanted to have what to their evil minds was a "good time" by beating, raping, and killing some poor innocent woman and this woman was just unlucky enough to be nearby.

172 J.S.  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:11:05am

I don't watch such videos (reading about it is enough for me).

173 brookly red  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:11:33am

re: #149 Kenneth

She went to Pakistan to report on the Taliban/Al Qaeda fighters (from a solidly pro-Islamist perspective)... and was taken hostage by the people she had planned to interview.

/do you think they will another send a team to cover the story?

174 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:11:51am

re: #165 axegrinder

Too bad we don't negotiate with terrorists. We'll all miss her./

Just maybe the moon bats will learn that these "folks" are not your friends, and given the slightest opportunity they will kill you...


/S

175 Sheepdogess  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:11:55am

re: #140 yma o hyd

Radical Feminism.

176 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:12:00am

ABC News: Gunman kills 13, wounds 26.

177 Occasional Reader  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:12:10am

Later.

178 alegrias  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:12:13am

Pres. Obama and Atty Gen. Eric Holder will be bringing these kinds of guys, their brothers the GITMO enemy combatants, to my neighborhood of Alexandria, VA. Next they'll be released & given welfare--
Let's welcome these perps into our society, shall we?

Another change we had coming, because of Bush the Cowboy.////sarc

179 VioletTiger  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:12:20am

What a bunch of sick, depraved SOBs. I can't watch the whole thing.

180 subsailor68  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:12:35am

re: #169 Wishing

IIRC, this same gal did this once before, ransom was paid.

Wow! I didn't know that. If that's the case, she's moved from "misguided" to a full-blown Darwin Award nominee. (Although I'd still hope she isn't harmed.)

181 zombie  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:12:45am

re: #19 Opinionated

It takes a village.

Thank you for skewering Hillary's ludicrous and blind multicultural nonsense.

We have two choices facing us as a species:

1. Either tolerate a multitude of "villages" around the world, each with their own moral code and social mores -- which would allow atrocities like this to continue on a daily basis, as well as slavery in Mauretania, honor killings in Egypt, clitorectomies in Somalia, forced marriages in Pakistan/England, and executions for thought crimes in Saudi Arabia...

...OR...

2. We become a "global village" in which there are shared moral and social values applicable worldwide.

Now, if we choose the second route, the question then becomes:

WHOSE moral and social values will prevail?

Do you want the individual freedom, individual responsibility and laisez-faire personhood of "classical liberal" western democracies?

Or do you want the repressive theocratic shariah of a bullying Islamic caliphate?

Do you want the Orwellian Cultural Police State of Obama-esque neo-socialism?

Or the Luddite anti-materialism and sanctimonious personal invasiveness of a Christian theocracy?

Which side are you on, boys, which side are you on?

182 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:12:49am

re: #124 CIA Reject

They probably raped her.

Undoubtedly. She deserved it, they believe.

183 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:13:08am

re: #171 CIA Reject

I don't think "law" had anything to do with it. I think these animals wanted to have what to their evil minds was a "good time" by beating, raping, and killing some poor innocent woman and this woman was just unlucky enough to be nearby.

In Sha'ria there is nothing that even remotely can be construed as law, at least what we here in the West would perceive as law. It is all arbitrarily decided by individuals who are self-proclaimed Koranic scholars.

184 axegrinder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:13:16am

re: #169 Wishing

IIRC, this same gal did this once before, ransom was paid.

How the heck did she get a visa to stay there after letting herself get kidnapped the first time?

185 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:13:25am

re: #149 Kenneth

How stupid are the people of the Left-Islamist convergence? This stupid:

Taliban threaten to behead Canadian hostage

She went to Pakistan to report on the Taliban/Al Qaeda fighters (from a solidly pro-Islamist perspective)... and was taken hostage by the people she had planned to interview.

I can imagine her pleas too: "But I came here to support you and the cause," not realizing that her death will do the same if not more than her reporting ever could.

186 jcbunga  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:13:35am

How well would the media do under an oppressor like these monsters?

They think this is fun and games.

The One thinks they're impressed.

Many will suffer and die, including here, before this clown is shown the door.

187 yma o hyd  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:13:39am

re: #175 Sheepdogess

Radical Feminism.

Yep.
Its more and more looking like a brain disease to me.

188 pink freud  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:13:51am

re: #172 J.S.

I saw this yesterday. I clicked on the start button. At the first whimper from her, my stomach flipped over and I had to stop it. My past viewing of these types of videos - thought it has been a while - has created a complete intolerance.

189 Kenneth  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:14:05am

re: #166 subsailor68

Have a look at her website. There are videos of "heroes" attacking US forces in Iraq, and poetic dedications to suicide bombing martyrs. She has promoted & defended the terrorists for years and is full aware of what they do. I have zero sympathy for her. Zero. She deserves what ever comes to her.

190 rawmuse  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:14:45am

re: #181 zombie

Hillary is a relativist. Morals are relative, and flexible, because to have morals is so, you know, judgmental.

191 Land Shark  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:14:45am

re: #136 ConservatismNow!

I say we use them all. Superior, overwhelming and disproportionate firepower means never having to say you're sorry. As well as a great way to tell them to "Say hi to your 72 virgins for me, slime ball!"

192 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:15:11am

re: #188 pink freud

I saw this yesterday. I clicked on the start button. At the first whimper from her, my stomach flipped over and I had to stop it. My past viewing of these types of videos - thought it has been a while - has created a complete intolerance.

Let's not forget the misguided Nick Berg who had his head sawed off on camera. I was driving and I had to pull the car over while listening to the audio version I was so sickened.

193 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:15:12am

Inside GITMO With Sgt. Jane Smith

[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]

194 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:15:25am

re: #183 FurryOldGuyJeans

In Sha'ria there is nothing that even remotely can be construed as law, at least what we here in the West would perceive as law. It is all arbitrarily decided by individuals who are self-proclaimed Koranic scholars.

Same as Mo; made it up as he went along so he could do what he wanted with the blessing of his "Allah".

195 CIA Reject  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:15:50am

re: #183 FurryOldGuyJeans

In Sha'ria there is nothing that even remotely can be construed as law, at least what we here in the West would perceive as law. It is all arbitrarily decided by individuals who are self-proclaimed Koranic scholars.

And these self-proclaimed "Koranic scholars" use these "laws" as justifications to indulge in their perversions.

196 yma o hyd  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:16:12am

re: #181 zombie

Which side is one on - heh, here at LGF thats a rhetorical question!

Isn't it?

197 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:16:24am

re: #186 jcbunga

How well would the media do under an oppressor like these monsters?

They think this is fun and games.

The One thinks they're impressed.

Many will suffer and die, including here, before this clown is shown the door.

They (the FMSM and Leftoids) flourish under the very protections they want to abolish. For them reality is what they want to create, not something they have to deal with.

198 pink freud  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:16:30am

re: #181 zombie

I choose number one but unfortunately I am not among the majority. I fear I am a member of a dying breed.

199 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:16:35am

re: #189 Kenneth

Have a look at her website. There are videos of "heroes" attacking US forces in Iraq, and poetic dedications to suicide bombing martyrs. She has promoted & defended the terrorists for years and is full aware of what they do. I have zero sympathy for her. Zero. She deserves what ever comes to her.

They consume their own. It's what they do. Liberals constantly fall victims to their own ideology: The feminist who encourages her own daughter to abort the grandchild, the community organizer who had to move out of the "community" because it had become too dangerous, etc.

200 J.S.  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:16:43am

re: #181 zombie

Samuel Huntington a number of years ago made a similar argument about the U.S. vs "the rest" of the world. The United States with its exceptionalism, ideals, and Constitution, needs to be re-affirmed (re-taught if need be); while the rest of the world can do whatever the hell they want (so long, of course, as they don't attack America). I'm in agreement with Huntington.

201 Athos  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:16:47am

I can't find a video of this, but here is the transcript of last night's appearance on The Factor by Code Pink's pinhead in chief - Medea Benjamin. O'Reilly pretty much hammered her into the usual deer in headlights / cluelessness that results from Medea's moral and intellectual bankruptcy by hammering the hypocrisy of Code Pink on the plight of women in Afghanistan.

O'REILLY: But it isn't - Medea, but this is what you don't get. It isn't going to end because we run away. It will continue because they will take over and they are violent people. They will kill Afghan women. You know how much Afghan women have progressed since the United States has gone in there? You don't care about Afghan women, Medea.

BENJAMIN: Yes, we do. We talk to them all the time.

O'REILLY: You don't give a hoot about them.

BENJAMIN: And they're calling for.

O'REILLY: Because when the Taliban gets in there, they don't go to school. They can't come out. They'll get beaten and killed. You don't care about the Afghan women at all. All you care about is this pie in the sky stuff.

BENJAMIN: I care about the Afghan women. I've cared about them long before you don't care about them, Bill.

O'REILLY: You don't care.

BENJAMIN: But we want to see if.

O'REILLY: If you did care about them.

BENJAMIN: A surge in diplomacy not a surge in troops.

O'REILLY: No, if you did care about the Afghan women, you'd want the Taliban to be defeated. That is the only solution for the Afghan women, period.

BENJAMIN: I want the war lords defeated, the Taliban defeated.

O'REILLY: Yeah, by what?

BENJAMIN: And the end of violence.

O'REILLY: By getting out of there. It ain't going to happen, Medea. Get in the real world, but we appreciate you coming on in.

According to Benjamin, the issue is the Taliban or the 7th C practices that they mandate, particularly against women, it's all about the fact that with the US / West there, we are the ones that perpetuate the 'cycle of violence'. Code Pink never said a word about the Kabul soccer stadium being used to execute women with AK47's prior to 9/11 - the issue is always the 'evil' of the west.

In WW2, we had a moral cause to fight the evil of fascism, and today we have the moral call to fight islamofascism. It is unfortunate that there are so many who refuse to recognize evil or have the foundation in moral and intellectual standing to fight evil.

202 axegrinder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:17:01am

re: #181 zombie

I'll go with 'classic lib.'

203 subsailor68  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:17:14am

re: #189 Kenneth

Have a look at her website. There are videos of "heroes" attacking US forces in Iraq, and poetic dedications to suicide bombing martyrs. She has promoted & defended the terrorists for years and is full aware of what they do. I have zero sympathy for her. Zero. She deserves what ever comes to her.

Hmm...let me see if I can find it. I hear what you're sayin'. I don't really have any sympathy for her either (especially if she's done this twice). It's the beheading thing that kinda puts me off.

204 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:18:06am

re: #187 yma o hyd

Yep.
Its more and more looking like a brain disease to me.

Liberalism really is a mental disorder, IMO. It is the uncanny ability to process information and come up with exactly the wrong solution, each and every time. Combined with an instant amnesia that prevents one from learning any lessons from the past.........

205 jaunte  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:18:23am

re: #201 Athos

I recall she wanted to replace "combat troops" in Afghanistan with "peacekeepers."

206 Athos  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:18:27am

re: #189 Kenneth

Have a look at her website. There are videos of "heroes" attacking US forces in Iraq, and poetic dedications to suicide bombing martyrs. She has promoted & defended the terrorists for years and is full aware of what they do. I have zero sympathy for her. Zero. She deserves what ever comes to her.

Just another useful idiot for the islamofascists.....now becoming a victim of her cluelessness around embracing evil.

207 Roscoe P.  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:18:31am

I can't even bear to watch...As a woman with 2 daughters I cannot imagine being subjected to this kind of savagery. Disgusting Taliban.

208 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:18:37am

re: #195 CIA Reject

And these self-proclaimed "Koranic scholars" use these "laws" as justifications to indulge in their perversions.

This got me thinking. How many of these Muslims are true believers and how many are sadists?

209 pink freud  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:19:32am

re: #186 jcbunga

How well would the media do under an oppressor like these monsters?

They think this is fun and games.

The One thinks they're impressed.

Many will suffer and die, including here, before this clown is shown the door.

If you've never seen it, it's 5 minutes of your life well spent. "Useful idiots."

Youtube Video
210 gegenkritik  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:19:46am

In her book "Allah & Eva", Dutch author Betsy Udink, who researched for a long time about the situation of women in Pakistan, quoted a local Bishop:
"The people here are treating each other like beasts. They are not even at the beginning of civilization."

211 yma o hyd  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:19:47am

re: #194 Kosh's Shadow

Same as Mo; made it up as he went along so he could do what he wanted with the blessing of his "Allah".

Some Muslims have sussed that - have a look at zombie's collection of Mo-toons.
There are some from Indonesia, whose author had to go into hiding.
Absolutely wonderful, priceless - and illustrate exactly what you said!

212 jorline  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:19:51am

Shooting Rampage.

'

Multiple' casualties, dozens held hostage after an Asian male reportedly storms into Binghamton, N.Y., immigration services building with a high-powered rifle and opens fire.
213 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:19:52am

re: #208 ConservatismNow!

This got me thinking. How many of these Muslims are true believers and how many are sadists?

100% interchangable, it seems.

214 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:19:53am

re: #205 jaunte

I recall she wanted to replace "combat troops" in Afghanistan with "peacekeepers."

And a-jiggita-humina-hey-hey-ho! Poof! Your combat troops are now peacekeepers. feel better, hippy?

215 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:19:54am
216 nyc redneck  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:19:59am

i'm not watching the brutality.
just seeing those filthy savages draped in rags standing over that weak helpless young woman is enough.
this is the crude inhuman level of society they want to force on the civilized world.
it is ridiculous that our gov't would be so stupid to think we could deal rationally
w/ such monsters.
they are a danger to all humanity.
they are too twisted and sick to even think of
as anything except vermin.

217 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:20:02am

re: #205 jaunte

I recall she wanted to replace "combat troops" in Afghanistan with "peacekeepers."

Ah, more child rapists from the UN, eh?

218 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:20:03am

There was another woman who was traveling around the world for world peace - and she was raped and murdered - I think in Pakistan. It might have been another one of the Ustans.

Like Dr Phil says: How's that working for ya?

219 CIA Reject  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:20:06am

re: #208 ConservatismNow!

This got me thinking. How many of these Muslims are true believers and how many are sadists?

IMHO Mohammedans can be divided into two categories: sadists and sheep. The sadists victimize the sheep and use the "religion" of Islam as an excuse.

220 brookly red  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:20:09am

re: #204 LGoPs

Liberalism really is a mental disorder, IMO. It is the uncanny ability to process information and come up with exactly the wrong solution, each and every time. Combined with an instant amnesia that prevents one from learning any lessons from the past.........

not amnesia, denial imho.

221 pink freud  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:20:39am

re: #192 DistantThunder

I can never forget that video.

222 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:20:40am

re: #209 pink freud

If you've never seen it, it's 5 minutes of your life well spent. "Useful idiots."


[Video]

We tend to treat our animals like little humans - to a point.

223 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:20:48am

re: #219 CIA Reject

That's not a bad description

224 Athos  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:20:50am

re: #205 jaunte

I recall she wanted to replace "combat troops" in Afghanistan with "peacekeepers."

Yeah, as if 'peacekeepers', who aren't 'combat troops' would instantly ensure the creation of a stable benign state. If there is nothing else that demonstrates her stupidity, it's that refrain. The sad part is how many other cluessless ideologues and useful idiots exist that share that same naive worldview.

225 dry_heavz_4_alla  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:21:01am

re: #4 Leonidas Hoplite

Cover your ears. The silence from the hypocritical women of the left will be deafening.

Like that idoiot from Code Pink on O'Reilly last night, and Geraldo on the Fox morning show this morning talking about how we shouldn't interfere in such "internal" matters. Paraphrasing him ... when it becomes public officials doing these things, best that we stick to our job of protecting those public officials from upset women who might want to stop this, or "the more extreme" taliban who might want to stone her without going through the proper legalities.

226 jorline  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:21:11am

re: #212 jorline

Shooting Rampage.

'

Reporting 13 dead.

227 Earick  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:21:13am

re: #181 zombie

That is an easy question!

F*ck the 'new world order'! The nation state known as the the USA and it's written Constitution is ALL I care about.
The rest of the world can get on board or go to hell!

228 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:21:18am

Gloria Steinem, your thoughts please?

229 Pass The Moonbaticide  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:21:23am

re: #181 zombie
Interesting Question.
I would go along with C.S.Lewis's contention that he would never join an overtly Christian party because it instantly accuses those who are Christian but vote otherwise as apostates.
Much better to have a Christian conscience which the other secular parties would address if they wanted Christians to vote for them.
There are few worse than those who say 'Thus says The Lord' on merely human pronouncements.

230 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:21:26am

re: #218 DistantThunder

There was another woman who was traveling around the world for world peace - and she was raped and murdered - I think in Pakistan. It might have been another one of the Ustans.

Like Dr Phil says: How's that working for ya?

Hitchiking around the world for world peace, not just traveling.

231 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:21:45am

Behold the Glory of Allah.

*spit*

232 midwestgak  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:21:46am

I Googled taliban barbarism and this is what I found:

Littlegreenfootballs

233 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:21:51am

re: #208 ConservatismNow!

This got me thinking. How many of these Muslims are true believers and how many are sadists?

Sadism and true belief are not mutually exclusive, especially when the basic belief system, as I see it, is rooted in pedophilia and murder.

234 Kenneth  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:22:24am

Some background on this useful idiot...

From Beverly Giesbrecht to Khadija Abdul Qahaar: Locals shed light on kidnapped Vancouverite’s past

235 yma o hyd  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:22:25am

re: #198 pink freud

I choose number one but unfortunately I am not among the majority. I fear I am a member of a dying breed.

No - don't ever think that!
I bet there are far more about, who right now are feeling lonely and dispirited because they also think that.

You're not a member of a dying breed - shoulders back, chin up, courage! As long as you breathe you can change things.

236 FightingBack  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:22:34am
offering a shocking glimpse of militant brutality in the once-peaceful district

Once peaceful? What does that mean?

237 pink freud  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:22:43am

re: #200 J.S.

J.S. ...How is your friend's son? (I hope my memory isn't faulty ...is it you who posted of his surgery?)

238 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:22:49am

re: #233 FurryOldGuyJeans

What I'm referring to is the motivations behind actions like this. Are they doing it because they believe it's God's work or are they doing it because it can get them off?

239 Athos  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:22:53am

re: #218 DistantThunder

There was another woman who was traveling around the world for world peace - and she was raped and murdered - I think in Pakistan. It might have been another one of the Ustans.

Like Dr Phil says: How's that working for ya?

It was in Turkey.

240 Land Shark  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:23:19am

re: #218 DistantThunder

I thought she was killed in Turkey.

241 charles_martel  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:23:21am

disgusting animals. the taliban need to be eradicated, like lice.

242 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:23:28am

re: #236 FightingBack

Once peaceful? What does that mean?

All I can figure is once peaceful means unreported to the world at large.

243 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:23:56am

re: #235 yma o hyd

{yma}

244 jvic  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:24:07am

The article keeps referring to the Taliban as militants. Not fanatics. Not extremists. Not zealots. Militants.

Maybe Hillary thinks of them as activists.
***********
After the collapse of Communism, I expected to live out my life without seeing evil openly on the march in the world. Alas, not so.

245 funky chicken  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:24:12am

Hey, they didn't behead her. She got off easy. These guys must be the moderate Taliban that Hillary and Obama are anxious to meet.

246 J.S.  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:24:19am

re: #232 midwestgak

lol...the banner ad shows an Arab in a Saudi headdress proclaiming: "Arabic Made Easy!"...(learn how to speak Arabic in 10 easy lessons)

247 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:24:36am

re: #238 ConservatismNow!

Also, it doesn't make a difference what their motivations is. I'd still put one in the head and two in the chest. I'm just curious.

248 Opinionated  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:24:40am

re: #181 zombie

Thank you for skewering Hillary's ludicrous and blind multicultural nonsense.

We have two choices facing us as a species:

1. Either tolerate a multitude of "villages" around the world, each with their own moral code and social mores -- which would allow atrocities like this to continue on a daily basis, as well as slavery in Mauretania, honor killings in Egypt, clitorectomies in Somalia, forced marriages in Pakistan/England, and executions for thought crimes in Saudi Arabia...

...OR...

2. We become a "global village" in which there are shared moral and social values applicable worldwide.

We elected Obama and get the worst of both choices.

We tolerate the atrocities and despicable cultures as legitimate in our "global village".

Oh, yeah, and we screw Israel for not voluntarily mating with the barbarian State we want to set up next to them.

249 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:24:53am

re: #238 ConservatismNow!

What I'm referring to is the motivations behind actions like this. Are they doing it because they believe it's God's work or are they doing it because it can get them off?

And again I say there is no mutual exclusivity, both can exist at the same time, and reinforce each other.

250 ErnieG  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:25:11am

re: #208 ConservatismNow!

This got me thinking. How many of these Muslims are true believers and how many are sadists?

That sounds like a false dichotomy to me. Many seem to be both.

251 funky chicken  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:25:23am

re: #236 FightingBack

Once peaceful? What does that mean?

It probably was fairly peaceful when it was just a bunch of tribes and farmers living out in the country. Then the Taliban moved in....

252 Pass The Moonbaticide  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:25:59am

re: #235 yma o hyd
BTW We've still to arrange our UK Lizard Lunch !

Can you spare a minute or two in the Lizard Lounge ?
Charles rightly doesn't allow personal details to be posted for public consumption on threads.

253 subsailor68  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:26:00am

re: #234 Kenneth

Some background on this useful idiot...

From Beverly Giesbrecht to Khadija Abdul Qahaar: Locals shed light on kidnapped Vancouverite’s past

Great link, thanks! You've gotta love this ringing endorsement from someone who knows her:

“She gave great parties,” was the first thing that Glenn Cooper, a database consultant in West Vancouver, told the Straight.

Uh, Glenn, that would be Martha Stewart.

254 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:26:15am

re: #221 pink freud

I can never forget that video.

I've seen the full hour of that video - blew my mind and made perfect sense.

255 Fluffy Bunny  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:26:21am

I pray that these monsters meet their 72 virgins and that each one is a menstrual, oppressed, pissed-off young lady with a grudge. The odds of having a good time would not be in their favor.

May they rot in hell.

256 yma o hyd  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:27:03am

re: #252 Pass The Moonbaticide


BTW We've still to arrange our UK Lizard Lunch !

Can you spare a minute or two in the Lizard Lounge ?
Charles rightly doesn't allow personal details to be posted for public consumption on threads.

Drop me an e-mail - my nic is blue!

257 tedzilla99  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:27:09am

Slightly off-topic, but Debbie Schlussel has the video of Obama bowing DEEPLY to Saudi king...kinda like he'll be bowing to the rest of the Middle East goons.

258 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:27:17am

re: #240 Land Shark

I thought she was killed in Turkey.

yeah, that's the one. Darwin Award material. I wonder if she had any friends that took her by the shoulders and said "Please don't do this. You will die."

259 pink freud  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:27:28am

re: #234 Kenneth

Some background on this useful idiot...

From Beverly Giesbrecht to Khadija Abdul Qahaar: Locals shed light on kidnapped Vancouverite’s past

"Giesbrecht was a born-again Christian until shortly after the September 11 attacks when she embraced Islam. "

That sorta says it all right there.

260 Athos  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:27:33am

re: #244 jvic

The article keeps referring to the Taliban as militants. Not fanatics. Not extremists. Not zealots. Militants.

Must be from the standard left wing style guides that prevent the use of the term 'terrorists' or 'misogynists' unless describing a conservative.

261 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:27:37am

re: #255 Fluffy Bunny

I pray that these monsters meet their 72 virgins and that each one is a menstrual, oppressed, pissed-off young lady with a grudge. The odds of having a good time would not be in their favor.

May they rot in hell.

Or their one 72 year old helen Thomas virgin.

262 rawmuse  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:27:49am

re: #4 Leonidas Hoplite

Cover your ears. The silence from the hypocritical women of the left will be deafening.

Ask them what they think about it on "The View"
If I was a woman, I would want "The View" to be taken off the air, on the grounds that people who watch will eventually want to repeal the 19th Amendment.

263 Unstable  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:27:51am

Where the hell is NOW? They're all over it when a woman earns a penny less than a man, but nowhere to be found when a real injustice is taking place. Damn them.

I went to their website and - informatively enough - there's no 'contact us' button.

264 J.S.  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:28:00am

re: #237 pink freud

O dear, I believe you have the wrong poster...must have been someone else...

265 DistantThunder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:28:18am

re: #259 pink freud

"Giesbrecht was a born-again Christian until shortly after the September 11 attacks when she embraced Islam. "

That sorta says it all right there.

What kind of sick person would embrace Islam AFTER an attack by islamists? That is a mental illness.

266 Athos  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:28:30am

re: #245 funky chicken

Hey, they didn't behead her. She got off easy. These guys must be the moderate Taliban that Hillary and Obama are anxious to meet.

Moderates? Didn't the Taliban themselves laugh at the concept of moderates saying something that there are either the faithful or infidels?

267 Fluffy Bunny  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:28:36am

re: #261 DistantThunder

Ewwww....LOL : D

268 zombie  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:28:40am

re: #198 pink freud

I choose number one but unfortunately I am not among the majority. I fear I am a member of a dying breed.

re: #200 J.S.

Samuel Huntington a number of years ago made a similar argument about the U.S. vs "the rest" of the world. The United States with its exceptionalism, ideals, and Constitution, needs to be re-affirmed (re-taught if need be); while the rest of the world can do whatever the hell they want (so long, of course, as they don't attack America). I'm in agreement with Huntington.

So, you both mean that you choose the "multitude of villages" model: We have a personal freedom in our society, but we don't meddle with other societies, and allow them to impose personal repression or "soul slavery" on their citizens if they so choose. The only proviso being: you try to bring that crap to our doorstep, and we'll kick your ass from here to kingdom come.

Right? This is sort of the libertarian social policy.

I posit that we have no choice other than to choose Option 2 ("global village") with the first side -- "classical liberal" social mores. In other words, what with the globalization of the economy and the culture, we're all going to have a shared species-wide social code whether we like it or not. And if we don't get pro-active on this Big Crunch of human moral variability, we're going to let some very bad people take charge and set the agenda. And they will impose their backward worldview on us, rather than us imposing our liberating worldview on them.

269 zombie  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:29:50am

re: #211 yma o hyd

Some Muslims have sussed that - have a look at zombie's collection of Mo-toons.
There are some from Indonesia, whose author had to go into hiding.
Absolutely wonderful, priceless - and illustrate exactly what you said!

You can find them about one-third of the way down this page.

270 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:29:53am
271 Kenneth  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:30:03am

re: #218 DistantThunder

She was an Italian artist who dressed up in a wedding dress and tried to bicycle from Rome to Jerusalem. She didn't get too far, only a few miles into Turkey before she was raped and murdered.

272 Roscoe P.  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:30:05am

re: #262 rawmuse

I can't stand that cackle fest known as "The View" It used to be quality but has turned into "who can tick off the lone conservative first?" I'm all for everyone having an opinion, but it does seem kind of high school at this point.

273 yesandno  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:31:41am

re: #22 zombie

If you read various articles about this, the real story is that the whole incident is based on a nosy neighbor who had a grudge. A teenage girl lives with her mother and her mother's new husband. The neighbor saw that the girl had strepped outside her front door with the father-in-law, and saw the opportunity to get them in trouble for "consorting in public." The neighbor called the shariah police, who came and whipped the girl.

No trial.

No evidence.

All for the "crime" of standing in public with someone who wasn't her husband.

And Obama and Hillary want to "make peace" with these people, offer them immunity, and eventually allow a power-sharing agreement in Afghanistan.

Further, it reinforces the fact that the women is in jail in her own home because she cannot leave, apparently. Her father is not there and obviously she cannot leave with her step-father. Guess her brother could take her out...but since he is holding her down to gain "honor" it is doubtful. Next time he takes her out, he will probably take her out.

The neighbor's life is so miserable, that in order to survive it, they become the enforcers....so everyone can be miserable.

This is not religion, this is fanaticism. And no one says anything for fear of insulting those for which everything is an insult. People just don't understand that things are really what they are, not some Disney movie interpretation of the mysterious Arabs. Jasmine doesn't exist in the real world of Muslim fundamentalism.

And those here need to wake up and smell the whip....this is outrageous. Call in a drone.

274 Kenneth  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:32:50am

re: #259 pink freud

She explained her conversion came about from reading the Koran (english translation) and staring at a picture of Osama bin Laden. From this process she "just knew" Muslims were not involved in the attacks.

Yes, you read that correctly.

275 alexknyc  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:33:17am

re: #150 Pass The Moonbaticide

Isn't a Father-in-Law a near enough relative for their jurispudence to consider as her being escorted legally ?
Their Lawbooks must extend to multitudes of volumes, appendices and footnotes such that no reasonably competent person could possibly follow it all.

According to the article, he was married to her mother, which would make him her step-father not her father-in-law.

276 Kenneth  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:34:54am

re: #275 alexknyc

According to the article, he was married to her mother, which would make him her step-father not her father-in-law.

Details, details... the important thing was to torture a child and intimidate the village. Mission accomplished.

277 J.S.  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:35:29am

re: #268 zombie

That pretty much sums up my position (I'd also say, I could insert "Israel" in there -- as a free, sovereign nation which should not be required to kowtow to any world body -- especially not to the heathens at the UN, etc.) It also means a reassertion of national sovereignty -- Treaty of Westphalia, etc. (With all due respect, I fear option 2 is politicaly naive. Have you read what Landes in the text, "The Wealth and Poverty of Nations" has to say about Islamic cultures? If you haven't read it yet, I think it's well worth a perusal...(imo)

278 Earick  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:36:01am

re: #247 ConservatismNow!

"Also, it doesn't make a difference what their motivations is. I'd still put one in the head and two in the chest. I'm just curious."

You are to kind!
One in the lower abdomen. With their medicine it will take two days to die...very painful! Gives him a time to reflect on his Pius life.

279 wltzacrsstxs  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:36:47am

Tell me again why the US intervened when India wanted to wipe this part of Pakistan off the map?

1 billion Indians vs. a few million Paks and Afghans sounds like a pretty good start.

280 Canoe Train  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:37:02am

re: #263 Unstable

As I have written before, NOW is too busy complaining about "oppression"order to gain special rights and engage in reverse discrimination. NOW don't care about equal justice, or even women. Many of these gender groups are all about reverse discrimination, not justice.

281 exredtory  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:38:22am

Some say the floggers have no feelings, but if those robes they wore weren't so loose their erect feelings would be most visible.

282 jjmckay1216  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:39:36am

re: #150 Pass The Moonbaticide

Isn't a Father-in-Law a near enough relative for their jurispudence to consider as her being escorted legally ?
Their Lawbooks must extend to multitudes of volumes, appendices and footnotes such that no reasonably competent person could possibly follow it all.

maybe they wrote our taxcode as well

283 Pass The Moonbaticide  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:39:36am

re: #256 yma o hyd
I tried, but a message saying 'Unable to display the web page' has come up twice.
Any suggestions as to why, Charles ?

284 latingent  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:40:35am

Took her inside at AK47 gunpoint: Must revirginize her so she can be one of his 72. Madea Benjamin must be proud. (I knew they must be runnin` low on virgins ). Maybe code pink can provide some souls....

285 Unakite  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:41:27am

Religion of Peace...Bullsh*t!

286 Edouard  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:42:23am

re: #135 Abu Lahab

The Taliban are Saudis without money.
This is a systematic punishment in Saudi, but videos of that never make it to the media, so the world behaves like it does not happen and the Saudi king in invited to the G20 meeting in London.
Just read this old headline, you would think there is a mistake in it because it does not make sense to any descent human being.
Saudi king pardons rape victim
These are the spiritual fathers of the Taliban.

Of course now we have a President of the United States who bows his head to this same king.

Youtube Video
287 Athos  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:43:28am

re: #273 yesandno

This is not religion, this is fanaticism. And no one says anything for fear of insulting those for which everything is an insult.

A valid case can be made of the cult-like viewpoint and actions that this 'religion' has.

Fundamentally, this is a extremely strict practice of a 7th century worldview and code that has not changed one whit from the 7th century - and according to the leaders of this view - can never be changed since it is divinely endorsed and provided for believers.

Given the foundation and enforcement of 7th century codes as defined by Mohammed - the fact that it is excused or ignored by so-called modern liberals is astounding as the morals and code of the 7th century should be contrary to all that they believe in. Just as much of the world stepped forward in WW2 to destroy and utterly discredit the Nazi fascism as a viable belief system, the world needs to step forward and define that the strict interpretation and use of the 7th century code and morals by these cultists has to be utterly destroyed and discredited as a viable form of governance.

288 yesandno  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:45:18am

re: #287 Athos

A valid case can be made of the cult-like viewpoint and actions that this 'religion' has.

Fundamentally, this is a extremely strict practice of a 7th century worldview and code that has not changed one whit from the 7th century - and according to the leaders of this view - can never be changed since it is divinely endorsed and provided for believers.

Given the foundation and enforcement of 7th century codes as defined by Mohammed - the fact that it is excused or ignored by so-called modern liberals is astounding as the morals and code of the 7th century should be contrary to all that they believe in. Just as much of the world stepped forward in WW2 to destroy and utterly discredit the Nazi fascism as a viable belief system, the world needs to step forward and define that the strict interpretation and use of the 7th century code and morals by these cultists has to be utterly destroyed and discredited as a viable form of governance.

Amen...

289 Kenneth  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:45:44am

Stinky,

Clean-up on aisle 270, please.

290 tommygum  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:46:29am

re: #66 LGoPs

Stoner Taliban......
/

Stoner invented the cure.

291 Texas Heathen  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:46:37am

re: #277 J.S.

That pretty much sums up my position (I'd also say, I could insert "Israel" in there -- as a free, sovereign nation which should not be required to kowtow to any world body -- especially not to the heathens at the UN, etc.) It also means a reassertion of national sovereignty -- Treaty of Westphalia, etc. (With all due respect, I fear option 2 is politicaly naive. Have you read what Landes in the text, "The Wealth and Poverty of Nations" has to say about Islamic cultures? If you haven't read it yet, I think it's well worth a perusal...(imo)

None of my kind go to the UN. ;)

292 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:48:16am

re: #289 Kenneth

Stinky,

Clean-up on aisle 270, please.

There's similar reference at 114, this one links to...

293 tommygum  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:49:08am

re: #80 Joan Not of Arc

Whose idea was it to make a deal with the Taliban? Who? Find him. Find him and kick his ass.
The Taliban are monsters. If there must be dialogue, make sure there is an F-14 involved.

Have to take one out of a museum then.

294 Code Red 21  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:51:22am

I would give anything to see one of those sorry, chicken shit, fuckers get beat till there was nothing left to beat. (spit)

295 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:53:19am
296 Earick  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:54:33am

Let me leave you with something positive.

Here in California the orange blossoms are starting to bloom. The honey is starting to flow. My bees are happy and healthy and soon I will be bottling orange honey.
When the world gets just to confusing it helps to go out and just sit with my bees and watch them work. Soon a balance comes back into my life.

Time for some balance! See ya'all later today.

297 Code Red 21  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:55:34am

re: #263 Unstable

Where the hell is NOW? They're all over it when a woman earns a penny less than a man, but nowhere to be found when a real injustice is taking place. Damn them.

I went to their website and - informatively enough - there's no 'contact us' button.

They're only brave when standing behind a phalanx of armed policeMEN.

298 axegrinder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:56:32am

Thing is, I'm thinking it's not really the girl they are punishing. She was probably just doing what her father in law told her to do. She's been trained to do what she's told by men her entire life. It's the father in law who is being punished for God knows what He's responsible and he knows it. Public beatings are simply a terror tactic and really have little to do with punishing the victim.

299 Boxy_brown  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 11:56:34am

“honorable form of reconciliation,” = napalm.

300 Mad Mullah  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:00:25pm

I suggest that Obama bow to the Taliban if he were to meet them. I'm sure that they are decent people, and who are we to judge their wonderful culture.

Obama did afterall bow to the Saudis, and they are not much different from the Taliban. I remember that fire in the girls school a few years ago where the religious police refused to let the girls flee the building and rather let them burn because they weren't wearing the proper attire.

301 axegrinder  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:05:05pm

re: #300 Mad Mullah

I suggest that Obama bow to the Taliban if he were to meet them. I'm sure that they are decent people, and who are we to judge their wonderful culture.

Obama did afterall bow to the Saudis, and they are not much different from the Taliban. I remember that fire in the girls school a few years ago where the religious police refused to let the girls flee the building and rather let them burn because they weren't wearing the proper attire.

They probably set the fire. Muslim girls aren't supposed to be educated, you know. Although Baathists don't have a problem with educated Muslims. One reason Iran and Iraq didn't see eye to eye back in the day. Remember the good 'ol days of Shiite vs. Baathist? Ah, when things were simple...

302 Querent  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:11:30pm

first i'll register my disgust, now i'll go read the thread... and get even more disgusted with this 'religion'...

303 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:17:32pm
304 happycamper  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:20:08pm

And the democrat party wants expanded rights for these types of pigs being held at gitmo.
No disrespect for pigs intended.

305 tokyobk  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:22:31pm

Please get Mos Def back on TV to ask him what he thinks of the Taliban.

306 kansas  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:23:46pm

OTUS can work with these guys. After all they didn't put any underwear on her head./

307 tradewind  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:25:14pm

Taliban flogs teen in public? Isn't that in the same vein as Sun rises in East?
Don't get any news value there.

308 jdog29  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:30:48pm

Islam = Zero Women's Rights

309 Eowyn2  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:33:19pm

I am glad my daughter wears combat boots instead of a burka

310 godfrey  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:34:46pm

The Taliban should be destroyed.

311 Karagush  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:36:02pm

re: #296 Earick

Let me leave you with something positive.

Here in California the orange blossoms are starting to bloom. The honey is starting to flow. My bees are happy and healthy and soon I will be bottling orange honey.
When the world gets just to confusing it helps to go out and just sit with my bees and watch them work. Soon a balance comes back into my life.

Time for some balance! See ya'all later today.

I sit with my horses. Brush and feed them. watch them play. Right now i am not able to and i feel terrible. They are in a snit too, because they never quite understand when i am sick i am sick, and not just falling down on the job!

312 jdog29  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:36:04pm

Islam = Executions for homosexuals

313 Emerald  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:36:50pm

I just can't force myself to watch this. I know they are barbarians, and it'll only get me angrier than I am just reading about it.

Where is NOW now? Remember the calls for action to help women under the Taliban during the Clinton years? Then Bush actually took action, and the support disappeared.

The small-mindedness of it burns me up. They claimed to care, but when they didn't like the person actually doing something to help, they pretend the help was never needed. I doubt we'll hear from them again, because they can no longer pretend that holding hands and singing Kumbaya works.

314 Karagush  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:41:55pm

re: #298 axegrinder

Thing is, I'm thinking it's not really the girl they are punishing. She was probably just doing what her father in law told her to do. She's been trained to do what she's told by men her entire life. It's the father in law who is being punished for God knows what He's responsible and he knows it. Public beatings are simply a terror tactic and really have little to do with punishing the victim.

you know i study the region and i can say for a fact the beef was probably ALWAYS with the step dad. Women are incidental.
I hate this shit.
i especially hate the feminists who fail to make a peep about it. they need to be screaming and hollering to stop this.
Taliban is not even an indigenous belief system it was imported from Salifist clerics that came from--wait for it!

SAUDI ARABIA
Even the primitive people who lived in those backwaters treated their women better before the salafists showed up. They took care of the livestock, and were allowed outdoors to do heavy work. YOu see, you wanna maintain your beasts of burden, and they need all hands to survive. The animals even suffer under the taliban, because when women cant care for them, men do badly at their new duties because its considered a shame to be good at "womens work."

315 hous bin pharteen  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:48:06pm

Why worry about it?
It is okay for Code Pink, and that other asshole with his left-wing sight, do not car about one bit. The was is all about the military being nasty there.
When are the libs going to do something about? Like make their own army!
They can join the California National Guard!

......................crickits......................................crickits..................................

316 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:51:56pm

Goddamned f*ing animals, every single one of them.

They're all guilty... those who did the deed, and those who stood over her and watched. They're all as guilty before the eyes of God as the bastard weilding the whip.

May they rot in hell.

317 paradox42  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:53:03pm

We seriously need to consider arming the women in these regions. Lets see how brave these guys are when there looking down the barrel of an M16 held by a very pissed off mother.

318 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:54:51pm

re: #20 reine.de.tout

No.
Quite amazing that they are so cold and hard, apparently lacking any human feeling or emotion whatsoever.

Not at all, when you consider that they're brainwashed and desensitized to brutality, murder and violence from the moment that they're born.

319 Karagush  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:55:05pm

re: #317 paradox42

We seriously need to consider arming the women in these regions. Lets see how brave these guys are when there looking down the barrel of an M16 held by a very pissed off mother.

they will do nothing
they are indoctrinated
and will do nothing
they face death and torture for stepping out of line few will challenge the status quo
the best we can do is take these girls away, educate them
and let them decide if they wish to return on not
I bet NOT

320 godfrey  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:55:24pm

The horror of this cannot be overstated. Imagine the state of near-suicidal depression these women must live in. Every day, the threat of instant execution. Every day, the threat of beating because your thinking wasn't absolutely consumed with the umpteen million ways you have to show your submission. They must live with the constant thought that their lives are not worth living. Those who survive and escape will never get the years they spent under such terrifying domination back. Ever.

There is a terrifying novel that deals with this called La Muette. Not in English yet. The title means "The Mute."

Most animals treat their mates infinitely better than this.

The Taliban are alien to every life-affirming instinct.

321 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:56:53pm

re: #296 Earick

Let me leave you with something positive.

Here in California the orange blossoms are starting to bloom. The honey is starting to flow. My bees are happy and healthy and soon I will be bottling orange honey.
When the world gets just to confusing it helps to go out and just sit with my bees and watch them work. Soon a balance comes back into my life.

Time for some balance! See ya'all later today.

Enjoy.
I wont' be able to get these images out of my brain for at least two or three days, probably longer.

322 godfrey  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:59:11pm

India Times: Militants destroy over 100 girls' schools in Swat

Because "they love and respect women!"

*spit*

323 DaChew  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:59:33pm

Yes, actually these are the moderates of the Taliban. You'll recall that, prior to our intervention in Afghanistan, women were routinely machinegunned on a soccer field for this type of crime. These ARE the people that Hillary believes we should be talking to.

324 paradox42  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 12:59:45pm

re: #319 Karagush

they will do nothing
they are indoctrinated
and will do nothing
they face death and torture for stepping out of line few will challenge the status quo
the best we can do is take these girls away, educate them
and let them decide if they wish to return on not
I bet NOT

Taking the girls away would be the best option. We should allow women from these countries to come to the US as asylum seekers. And ban all male immigrants over the age of 12 until they agree to treat women like human beings.

325 Karagush  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:00:34pm

re: #320 godfrey

The horror of this cannot be overstated. Imagine the state of near-suicidal depression these women must live in. Every day, the threat of instant execution. Every day, the threat of beating because your thinking wasn't absolutely consumed with the umpteen million ways you have to show your submission. They must live with the constant thought that their lives are not worth living. Those who survive and escape will never get the years they spent under such terrifying domination back. Ever.

There is a terrifying novel that deals with this called La Muette. Not in English yet. The title means "The Mute."

Most animals treat their mates infinitely better than this.

The Taliban are alien to every life-affirming instinct.

many of these women light themselves on fire to escape their horrible lives. One was interviewed in a hospital. she had survived and was in horrible shape. they asked her what she had to say to other women considering suicide. you could tell the wester journalist expected the answer "dont do it"
you know what she said?

USE A GUN EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO STEAL IT. ITS A SURE DEATH.

326 godfrey  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:04:39pm

re: #325 Karagush

Then there is a clear urgency for an underground railroad in Afghanistan.

Get the women out. Seal the borders.

Let the men die in their sterility.

327 marsl  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:05:41pm

Now in Pakistan and Afghanistan, tomorrow in Lisbon and New York.... if we loose this war against them. This video should be aired by all TV networks, to show what will happen if we loose. Wait... the media makes us believe that the Taliban and jihadis are the good guys and our troops are the bad guys, because we are "oppressing them in their land".

" If we retreat from their lands, all will be fine". This is what they want us to believe. They simply cannot understand that, for jihadis, all the world is for them. And we are to kill and slaughter.

Unless we kick their asses now. And very hard, to them notice for where the wind blows. And for who's in charge now and who rules. Us (well, America, at least).

328 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:14:51pm

This video makes me furious, but frustrated.

Because I know that nothing is going to change for these women. Even if their Taliban masters are defeated, Islamic fundamentalism is still going to enslave them.

What can be done to actually give these women a better life?
Bitching about it on an internet forum accomplishes nothing.

329 paradox42  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:17:32pm

re: #328 Irish Rose

This video makes me furious, but frustrated.

Because I know that nothing is going to change for these women. Even if their Taliban masters are defeated, Islamic fundamentalism is still going to enslave them.

What can be done to actually give these women a better life?
Bitching about it on an internet forum accomplishes nothing.

Allowing these women and girls to get asylum in the US is something we can do now. And deny visas to males over 12 until they change their ways.

330 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:19:08pm

re: #329 paradox42

Allowing these women and girls to get asylum in the US is something we can do now. And deny visas to males over 12 until they change their ways.

Fixed.

331 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:21:44pm

Seriously, will these girls and women be safe even if they are given a safe underground road out of the country?

Where are they going to go?
Where are they going to live?
Who is going to help provide for them?

It's just so depressing.

332 godfrey  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:26:25pm

re: #331 Irish Rose

I know one from Iran. She will never get back what should have been the best years of her life. She is now reasonably successful. She is lonely. Every time I see her, my heart breaks in half.

Befriend them and help them as best we can. That's a start.

333 paradox42  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:28:44pm

re: #331 Irish Rose

Seriously, will these girls and women be safe even if they are given a safe underground road out of the country?

Where are they going to go?
Where are they going to live?
Who is going to help provide for them?

It's just so depressing.

Set up shelters for them and their children. Teach them English and help them find employment and eventually housing.

Place armed guards at the shelter with orders to treat trespassers with extreme prejudice.

334 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:32:15pm

At least she wasn't waterboarded.

Or made to listen to Harry Potter.

Or had a pair of panties placed on her head.

/

335 vero  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:38:19pm

My first reaction was "oh well, use to seeing these non-humans, this is not unusual" remember the shootings of the women on the soccer fields?, the throwing of women and children in Wood chippers - Then one starts thinking of your own family, and thinking "thank God I have enough ammo"

How much you wanna bet the one doing the whipping ejaculated in his pants from the torture he was dishing out

336 Ezekiel2517  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:39:57pm

Is anybody really suprised? I mean..Swat Valley.. get it?

337 notutopia  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:43:35pm

I thank you for the warning Charles. Just the still frame and the article were enough for me. This act is barbarically insane and torturous. This ideology is so very primitive.
Between this story coverage and the mass murders in NY today, I'm starting to think we're living in an alternate limbo universe. Pinch me please.
Can't we get all the LGF'ers together and formulate our own state?

338 Canoe Train  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 1:52:06pm

Clean up in aisles 114 & 136, please.

339 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:16:12pm

I got yer flogging right here, ya buncha cowards! By all means, let's have a dialog with these cretins. It's called an Arc Light strike.

340 gander  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:23:29pm

Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil.
God help us.

341 DEZes  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:33:22pm

I just want 30 minutes alone with each of those scum buckets.

342 abolitionist  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:52:53pm

Noobies, if you've never seen the video Submission Part1, by Theo Van Gogh, look for it on the web. It's under 11 minutes.

343 slotgun  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:53:32pm

The saddest part about this imagery -- and the refusal of certain members of our "civilized" society to express outrage over it -- is that its just taste of the brutality to come. I don't for a minute think they'll be over here, whipping Brittney Spears for showing too much muffin top on tour, but I do know that an evil like this, loosed on the planet, will lead to but one conclusion: Lots and lots of innocent, but nonetheless dead, Third Worlders. At some point, they're going to force us to engage the disproportionate response, and it's going to be ugly. Obama may be a dolt, but he'll do the right thing when the stakes get high enough, and these morons will see to it that the stakes, tragically, are raised.

Shame on these pinheads for not understanding that very simple concept.

344 Mad Mullah  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:00:14pm

One of the neanderthals holding her down is actually her brother. At least they didn't douse her body with gasoline and set her ablaze or pour acid on her face, which also happens to females in those types of communities when they get too uppity.

345 astronmr20  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:02:09pm

My natural reaction in this case would be to beat the ever-living snot out of a man or group of men if I saw them doing this, regardless of the consequences.

A few Krav Maga techniques and he'd never use his "whipping arm" again.

WTF is wrong with the world?

346 Special Forces Grunt  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:08:35pm

From Wikipedia:

"Benjamin grew up in Long Island, a self-described "nice Jewish girl."[1] During her freshman year at Tufts University, she renamed herself after the Greek mythological character Medea. She received a master's degree in public health from Columbia University and a second master's degree in economics from the New School for Social Research.

Benjamin worked for 10 years as an economist and nutritionist in Latin America and Africa for the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization, the World Health Organization, the Swedish International Development Agency, and the Institute for Food and Development Policy. Benjamin spent four years in Cuba, and has authored three books on the country."

Plainly, the girl is a communist and will say and do anything to advance her cause. She cares nothing about anybody or human rights; the cause is everything.

347 Gsparky  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:14:37pm

@astronmr20:

A few Krav Maga techniques and he'd never use his "whipping arm" again.

Why stop with just his arm? Frankly, beat all of them to within an inch of their lives.

Then beat them another inch.

Cowards.

348 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:36:57pm

re: #82 Land Shark

What a horrible video. That poor girl! But sadly it's the truth, and the truth of what those evil slime Taliban are needs to get out. "Moderate" Taliban? Even those barbarians are laughing at the absurdity of the idea, Hillary. And these clueless schmucks are the people in charge of our country?

At least we know those protectors of women's rights at NOW are on the case protesting this horror. Right? (Extreme sarcasm lever - ON)

Meanwhile, Karzai has signed protection for marital rape into law.

I know no one wants to hear this, but NOW has a fairly specific focus on women's issues in the U.S. They DID respond to the beheading in NY because that was a domestic violence issue in the states, and they had Irshad Manji speak at the 2008 conference. They're not indifferent, but international is not what they do.

349 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:39:30pm

re: #135 Abu Lahab

The Taliban are Saudis without money.
.


BINGO!

350 Maddhouse  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:04:45pm

Anyone notice between 45 & 55 seconds into the video the flogger hits the woman holding the girl to the ground in the face? What was her crime? Where is the outrage?

351 funky chicken  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:47:32pm

re: #350 Maddhouse

Anyone notice between 45 & 55 seconds into the video the flogger hits the woman holding the girl to the ground in the face? What was her crime? Where is the outrage?

She probably tried to speak to him. Or perhaps it's just because too much of her face showed or something.

352 Wendya  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 5:17:05pm

re: #22 zombie

If you read various articles about this, the real story is that the whole incident is based on a nosy neighbor who had a grudge. A teenage girl lives with her mother and her mother's new husband. The neighbor saw that the girl had strepped outside her front door with the father-in-law, and saw the opportunity to get them in trouble for "consorting in public." The neighbor called the shariah police, who came and whipped the girl.

No trial.

No evidence.

All for the "crime" of standing in public with someone who wasn't her husband.

But it's okay for her to live in the same house with him.....

353 neomexicon  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 5:32:44pm

I'm a teenager boy living in southern california.
I read this, but don't dare watch it.
I will admit it: I cried.
Cried for the hypocrites who defend this bullshit, cried for the poor girls and others like her, cried for the ingrates I call my peers.

354 Muadib  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 5:36:47pm

God help those backward idiots. Blood thirsty rituals perpetuated by the sick bastards of humanity.

355 Photon Cowboy  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 6:31:00pm

That's why we have to get out of Afghanistan ! The people who live there have their own culture and will not question their beliefs no matter what the facts suggest. One of President Bush's biggest mistakes was agreeing to the clause in the Afghan constitution that stated " No law shall be passed that comes into conflict with the teachings of islam". As soon as that law was passed we should have bailed out in an orderly manner. The Soviet Union was taught a lesson by those people. Let's not repeat history and get while the get ting's good.

If the people that live there
are to cowardly to fight for themselves and demand total control over all the females in the country I say pull out now. When you decide to play by American rules it will be too late.

356 SuaSponte  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 7:57:04pm

It must have been difficult for the men to do this. This is just another case of torture by an American influenced feminist upon their society.

357 Timbre  Fri, Apr 3, 2009 8:42:54pm

If I can convince about 500,000 more non-Muslims Westerners to pack up and move to the Swat Valley, I'll go along. I'll sign a contract to stay one year (one of the those 365.25 days Gregorian calendars). And we'll tel these Seventh Century jihoglodytes to shut up or move out. Then we'll get another 500,000 for South Waziristan, and 600,00 for Baluchistan (they're taller and it might take more muscle) and on and on. We'll start wind farms and camel racing stables and completely Agent Orange any poppy plant of any kind. And then, we'll all turn simultaneously to Iran and say: "Shut up or move out." Jihadis are not the only ones who can immigrate to the "Western World" while leaving their old or sick enforcers to beat, rape, and torture teenage girls. Will there be a United Nations and Red Cross/Red Crescent investigation about these state-sanctioned atrocities? I thought not. Degenerate idiot jihoglodytes!

358 Canoe Train  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 6:39:56am

Maybe I should have posted earlier was that "No one should be flogging anyone else."
I suspect that several of the posters here would probably say nothing, or even assist, if the roles were reversed in this situation, all the while excusing it or justifying their acts.

Let me repeat: perhaps no one should be flogging anyone else in this situation, regardless of the genders of the individuals involved.

Either that, or maybe we should be flogging both parties involved in equal treatment.

359 NJ-Kilowatts  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 10:36:09am

The "reasons" for what happened here are, of course, vile beyond belief and any cleansing of these sub-human varlets is well and nigh deserved. That said, however, I daresay the actual physical punishment inflicted is not really all that severe. I've probably got spanked harder than that when I got caught lying to my parents when I was young.

In the 1960s I was a pupil at a public school that had boys on one side and girls on the other. Any boy caught going to the girl's side (AND vice-versa) had a strapping administered by the Headmaster that was far more painful than that poor young lady received in the video. We're talking 6-12 year old children in North America a mere 40 years ago. I would also imagine the British tradition of "six of the best" left a far more lasting set of welts, again, on children much younger than this video's recipient.

Again, I repeat I do NOT condone in any way what happened and I, too, would gladly visit some lasting and permanent corporal punishment on all involved. I'm just saying our own Western society has regularly condoned far more egregious beatings of children far younger.

360 Dekar  Sat, Apr 4, 2009 9:32:31pm

re: #72 jaunte

She's insane, but I don't think she's that crazy.

That's the point though. She completely knows the situation. This makes her evil in my mind.

361 tobariv  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 5:37:31pm

RE;#359 I take exception to your comment. Sounds like moral equivalence. Let's see: you were publicly flogged, while essentially blindfolded.2 people held you down while you cried out in pain. Then you were taken someplace by a stranger and Gd know what happened to you. I too went to public school and I do not believe in corporal punishment. But do not try to equate the old norms with this video. Your point, in my opinion is to find some excuse in this behavior in the year 2009. I don't care what happened to you in 1960. We as women have come a long way baby--so no excuses now or ever.

362 Canoe Train  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 7:25:38pm

re: #361 tobariv

I suspect that you would raise no objections at all if this were happening to a male. I think this is one situation where, if one would not hit a female, then one should not be hitting any one no matter what the gender involved.


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