Video: The Glenn Beck Apocalypse
Video • Views: 3,210
778 comments
4 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:16:03pm |
Really not trying to play the religious angle, but don't Mormons have some serious "end of days" planning, etc.? I have a Mormon cousin with years of food stuffs and weapons stored.
| 6 |
doppelganglander Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:16:48pm |
re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Really not trying to play the religious angle, but don't Mormons have some serious "end of days" planning, etc.? I have a Mormon cousin with years of food stuffs and weapons stored.
Yeah, but so does my non-religious brother-in-law. Being rather feckless myself, I stay on good terms with him.
| 7 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:16:50pm |
| 9 |
doppelganglander Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:17:20pm |
I think that first guest is actually Strongbad.
| 11 |
Attaboid Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:17:52pm |
My TV has been unplugged and uncabled for years.
| 13 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:19:17pm |
Charles, why are you bashing Christians?! All who continue to post at LFG will burn in HELL!
/getting the hatemail started (the LFG was deliberate)
| 14 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:19:26pm |
re: #6 doppelganglander
All you need to do is go and get you a "feck".
| 16 |
FrogMarch Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:20:32pm |
Is Glen Beck turning into the Kieth Olberdouche of the right?
| 18 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:21:12pm |
OMG - that is too funny!
It's got the whole general tone of his show exactly right!
| 19 |
NukeAtomrod Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:21:31pm |
That was really funny. I think Glenn Beck should actually get Death as a guest. Then he could serve a salmon mousse for Nancy Pelosi's birthday. Imagine the ratings!
| 20 |
FightingBack Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:21:36pm |
It's Sad because it's true.
The MSM is dead.
| 21 |
albusteve Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:22:16pm |
| 22 |
doppelganglander Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:22:58pm |
re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
All you need to do is go and get you a "feck".
LOL. Seriously, I should get a gun, but for some reason the rest of my family doesn't think it's a great idea for me to own firearms.
| 24 |
Racer X Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:23:11pm |
Fuck.
Why does the right feel a need to compete with the lunatics on the left?
Glenn is giving Keith Overhype a run for his money.
| 25 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:23:19pm |
"Glen, you are like, if Sarah Palin farted into a balloon, and then, you put a wig on it, that would be you."
-Jesus to Beck!
| 27 |
Gella Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:23:52pm |
this is funny, but personally i think Beck is insane, he needs to be medicated
| 28 |
MandyManners Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:23:59pm |
Come Unto Me, All Ye That Labor and are Heavy Laden, and I Will Give You Rest. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.
| 29 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:24:00pm |
re: #19 NukeAtomrod
"The Meaning of Life", right?
| 30 |
Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:24:55pm |
Beck is a vicious little egomaniac who drools at the thought that the last days and the eve of destruction are upon us, accompanied by as much human pain and suffering as possible. I used to watch his show regularly, but can no long stomach his self-righteous arrogance and know-it-all attitude.
| 32 |
SteveC Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:25:13pm |
In the words of that poet/philosopher, Joan Jett: "I hate myself for loving you!"
| 33 |
Racer X Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:25:16pm |
How hard is it for the GOP to put together a strategy to counter what Obama is doing?
And why can't they get GOP mouthpieces on board?
| 35 |
Francisco D'Anconia Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:25:42pm |
Ah Glenn Beck, Foxnews answer to Olbermann. New and Improved with tears!
| 38 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:25:51pm |
Beck's entertaining and a bit of an everyman/wildman, like the voice crying in the wilderness saying prepare ye the way on serious issues of the day.
George Carlin did similar crazy sounding things and was probably high on drugs during his monologues, back in the day.
Saturday Night Live's Weekend Update used to be funny though all sarcasm and snark, all the time.
I'm glad Fox News lets Beck do whatever he feels like doing--until it doesn't work. By his own account, CNN was a hostile controlling workplace where he couldn't be his crazy unplugged self.
Beck's better than Opera and it's made in the USA.
| 39 |
FightingBack Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:26:05pm |
re: #27 Gella
this is funny, but personally i think Beck is insane, he needs to be medicated
Normal adult males don't usually tear up a few times per hour.
| 40 |
pink freud Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:26:43pm |
re: #30 Spare O'Lake
Beck is a vicious little egomaniac who drools at the thought that the last days and the eve of destruction are upon us, accompanied by as much human pain and suffering as possible. I used to watch his show regularly, but can no long stomach his self-righteous arrogance and know-it-all attitude.
He's sure found a niche, though ...hasn't he? Scary stuff.
| 42 |
NukeAtomrod Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:26:57pm |
| 43 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:27:11pm |
re: #39 FightingBack
Normal adult males don't usually tear up a few times per hour.
Normal adult males will turn it on like Tammy Fey Baker for the kind of cash they are probably paying him
| 44 |
Racer X Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:27:14pm |
I used to like Beck, and I really wanted him to keep things honest and realistic. But lately, damn.
| 45 |
Mich-again Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:27:17pm |
That was pretty darn funny. Not that far off the mark.
| 46 |
Gella Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:27:21pm |
re: #39 FightingBack
Normal adult males don't usually tear up a few times per hour.
i am wondering what is he on? please don't share
| 47 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:27:28pm |
re: #38 alegrias
Beck's better than Opera and it's made in the USA.
What do you expect in an Opera? A happy ending?
-Bugs Bunny
| 48 |
The Shadow Do Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:27:40pm |
In another era Beck would be a carnival barker.
Creepy
| 50 |
Randall Gross Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:28:12pm |
Lord Humongous of the Wasteland! That's totally cool, how'd Glen manage to book him, and did he bring his scoped .44?
| 52 |
pink freud Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:28:17pm |
re: #38 alegrias
Beck's entertaining and a bit of an everyman/wildman, like the voice crying in the wilderness saying prepare ye the way on serious issues of the day.
George Carlin did similar crazy sounding things and was probably high on drugs during his monologues, back in the day.
Saturday Night Live's Weekend Update used to be funny though all sarcasm and snark, all the time.
I'm glad Fox News lets Beck do whatever he feels like doing--until it doesn't work. By his own account, CNN was a hostile controlling workplace where he couldn't be his crazy unplugged self.
Beck's better than Opera and it's made in the USA.
Beck's a stone cold lunatic.
| 53 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:28:29pm |
re: #43 Radicchio ad Absurdum
Normal adult males will turn it on like Tammy Fey Baker for the kind of cash they are probably paying him
"Wait a minute. How much are you going to pay me?"
[SNIFF]
"Can you hand me a tissue please."
[SNIFF]
//
| 54 |
jaunte Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:28:46pm |
re: #35 Francisco D'Anconia
Ah Glenn Beck, Foxnews answer to Olbermann. New and Improved with tears!
I would love to have a recording of the production conference when this approach came up. Copy what the voters want!
| 55 |
freetoken Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:28:50pm |
re: #28 MandyManners
The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, "Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God!
| 56 |
Mich-again Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:28:52pm |
Does Glen Beck tell his viewers which shortwave frequency he will broadcast the show from after the big meltdown? How about a CB channel?
| 57 |
albusteve Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:28:57pm |
Beck is part of the scam...FOX is his john and they will do and say anything for the money
| 58 |
capitalist piglet Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:29:15pm |
re: #24 Racer X
Fuck.
Why does the right feel a need to compete with the lunatics on the left?
Glenn is giving Keith Overhype a run for his money.
The other day I watched him while I was working out. He was mugging for the camera on a split screen, while interviewing (though he obviously wasn't listening to his guest) a guy with some issues about immigration and Obama's illegal immigrant aunt who's still in the country. He was making all kinds of faces more appropriate for a fifth grader, then he made devil horns on his head. The guest couldn't see him. There was something funny about it, if you're into childish humor.
I just don't take him seriously at all. When he's not doing that, he's doing his drama queen schtick. It's like he's Jon Stewart and Art Bell combined, only with a right-wing bent. It's not a serious show, though I'm sure he would disagree with my appraisal, at least in part.
| 59 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:29:28pm |
Anybody watch "Network" lately? It is all there.
| 60 |
Sharmuta Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:29:31pm |
re: #41 jaunte
Newstainment, now with more pitchforks.
But wait! There's more! Order in the next ten minutes, and torches are free!
| 61 |
Randall Gross Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:29:49pm |
re: #56 Mich-again
Does Glen Beck tell his viewers which shortwave frequency he will broadcast the show from after the big meltdown? How about a CB channel?
| 62 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:30:28pm |
re: #24 Racer X
Fuck.
Why does the right feel a need to compete with the lunatics on the left?
Glenn is giving Keith Overhype a run for his money.
* * * *
Beck has a first amendment right to say his peace, and a hit tv show on which to say his peaces.
Please get a grip and realize Beck is a tv show entertainer, NOT a political party.
Painting Beck as the face of conservatives is what partisan hacks in the White House tried to do with another entertainer recently.
| 63 |
jaunte Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:30:30pm |
re: #60 Sharmuta
I was thinking that most of the people mentioning pitchforks in the last week have never touched one.
| 64 |
MandyManners Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:30:34pm |
re: #55 freetoken
The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, "Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God!
Your point?
| 65 |
doppelganglander Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:31:14pm |
re: #63 jaunte
I was thinking that most of the people mentioning pitchforks in the last week have never touched one.
I can assure you I have operated a pitchfork. However, I have very little experience with torches.
| 66 |
SteveC Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:31:26pm |
re: #47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What do you expect in an Opera? A happy ending?
-Bugs Bunny
But he didn't bring his spear and magic helmet.
| 67 |
abolitionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:32:19pm |
We.are.all.going.to.die.
Isn't it strange that he should make an assertion that, for the most part, would only be challenged by the religious far right?
| 68 |
The Shadow Do Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:32:20pm |
What has 40 eyes and three teeth?
Front row at a Willy Nelson concert
Glenn Beck fans
| 69 |
jaunte Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:32:27pm |
re: #65 doppelganglander
I'll bring the torch! (never touched a pitchfork).
| 70 |
Mich-again Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:32:45pm |
re: #61 Thanos
Great selection! Is that from the Stop Making Sense film?
| 71 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:32:46pm |
Oh, hell yeah! Lord Humungus FTW!
| 72 |
Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:33:25pm |
re: #40 pink freud
He's sure found a niche, though ...hasn't he? Scary stuff.
Beck is a purveyor of religious pornography.
| 74 |
Zimriel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:33:34pm |
re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Really not trying to play the religious angle, but don't Mormons have some serious "end of days" planning, etc.? I have a Mormon cousin with years of food stuffs and weapons stored.
They do; the term for the "Mormon Mahdi" is The One Mighty And Strong. When you get the chance, Google that phrase for some goodness.
They did after all call themselves the Latter Day Saints, not "The 500 Million Years Before The Sun Gets Too Hot, Give Or Take, Saints".
| 75 |
jorline Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:33:39pm |
re: #56 Mich-again
Does Glen Beck tell his viewers which shortwave frequency he will broadcast the show from after the big meltdown? How about a CB channel?
Breaker Breaker...Go to channel 19...Roger.
| 76 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:33:53pm |
re: #71 Slumbering Behemoth
That would be a cool nic.
| 77 |
doppelganglander Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:34:12pm |
| 78 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:34:30pm |
I believe this is the first LGF thread ever hat-tipped to me!
Woo hoo!
| 79 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:34:58pm |
re: #75 jorline
Breaker Breaker...Go to channel 19...Roger.
Looks like we got us a tribulation...That's a big 10-4 good buddy.
| 80 |
ziggyelman Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:35:09pm |
re: #16 FrogMarch
Is Glen Beck turning into the Kieth Olberdouche of the right?
No, he could never bash Obama like Keith did/does with Bush....
| 81 |
avanti Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:35:58pm |
Ok, riddle me this. I see that most of the conservatives here are not that fond of Beck's show. Having said that, what does it say about the rest of the base that his ratings are through the roof and might be number one soon ?
They can't all watch for the entertainment since some of his fans have viewing parties to take in his wisdom. Will he finally go so far over the top that he'll burn out ?
| 85 |
freetoken Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:36:50pm |
re: #64 MandyManners
Your point?
Just as the religious leaders and rich men of Jesus' day, Beck, OReilly, etc know how to line their own pockets courtesy of the gullibility of the religiously minded.
| 86 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:36:52pm |
re: #33 Racer X
How hard is it for the GOP to put together a strategy to counter what Obama is doing?
And why can't they get GOP mouthpieces on board?
* * * *
It's very hard for the LOSING party to get it together, in the face of a super popular new dem President, and a democrat control freak--Pelosi-- running Congress. Democrats control everything in Congress right now, including the rules.
Losing sucks and the demoralized GOP is trying to regroup under new management.
We need to support the GOP in its hour of weakness and encourage any signs of life or UNITY of purpose and Unity of message when they make sense.
| 87 |
Randall Gross Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:37:00pm |
I keep saying it's Joe Pyne days all over again. re: #70 Mich-again
Great selection! Is that from the Stop Making Sense film?
Not sure, it was what popped up when I googled "life during wartime youtube"
| 88 |
Mich-again Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:37:14pm |
re: #75 jorline
Breaker Breaker...Go to channel 19...Roger.
Smokey's got his ears on 19. headed for 33 good buddy, c'mon.
| 89 |
Dar ul Harbarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:37:15pm |
I would love to have an opinion on this but I have never watched Glenn Beck
| 90 |
doppelganglander Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:38:35pm |
re: #74 Zimriel
They do; the term for the "Mormon Mahdi" is The One Mighty And Strong. When you get the chance, Google that phrase for some goodness.
They did after all call themselves the Latter Day Saints, not "The 500 Million Years Before The Sun Gets Too Hot, Give Or Take, Saints".
I have an interest in homegrown American religions, though I'm no scholar. My impression is that most of them were founded at least in part on predictions of the end times. It's certainly an effective way of getting attention for your ideas.
| 91 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:38:41pm |
re: #47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What do you expect in an Opera? A happy ending?
-Bugs Bunny
* * * * *
Thank you.
Riri, Pallazzo--
The Crying Crown opera by ________ some Italian guy, is Glenn Beck personified.
| 94 |
The Shadow Do Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:39:06pm |
re: #81 avanti
Ok, riddle me this. I see that most of the conservatives here are not that fond of Beck's show. Having said that, what does it say about the rest of the base that his ratings are through the roof and might be number one soon ?
They can't all watch for the entertainment since some of his fans have viewing parties to take in his wisdom. Will he finally go so far over the top that he'll burn out ?
Lots of questions there. One for you - why are you such a dolt?
| 95 |
Randall Gross Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:39:14pm |
re: #70 Mich-again
Great selection! Is that from the Stop Making Sense film?
Looked back at the vid and in the sidebar it says yes....
| 96 |
Sharmuta Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:39:20pm |
re: #89 Dar ul Harbarian
I would love to have an opinion on this but I have never watched Glenn Beck
I've seen enough of his rants on youtube to get a kick out of this.
| 97 |
NukeAtomrod Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:40:21pm |
Here's an idea: The FoxNews programming guys believe that the economy and national security situations will continue to get worse while Obama's in office. So, they wanted to hire a crazy guy with paranoid apocalyptic delusions to tap in to the fears of the public, thus increasing ratings. Unfortunately, Bill Maher was still under contract with HBO, so they had to settle for the far more reasonable Glenn Beck.
/
| 98 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:40:23pm |
I like that we're being warned about crazy political personalities making apocalyptic predictions by a company started by Al Gore.
The irony is strong with this one.
Irony.exe caused an invalid brain fault in module humor.ini.
| 99 |
stevieray Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:40:30pm |
Pretty good parody! I like it!
And I still like Glenn Beck.
I don't often get home in time to watch all of the TV show, but I usually catch his radio gig. I like his sense of humor, and I like the fact that he broaches subjects others dismiss out-of-hand... and he usually ends up making a sane point or two about those ignored stories.
If he's not your cup of tea..? Fine... to each his own. I'll keep catching him when I can.
| 100 |
J.S. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:41:13pm |
re: #91 alegrias
by Leoncavallo....(Pagliacci -- fabulous opera, btw.)
| 102 |
Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:41:32pm |
re: #81 avanti
Ok, riddle me this. I see that most of the conservatives here are not that fond of Beck's show. Having said that, what does it say about the rest of the base that his ratings are through the roof and might be number one soon ?
They can't all watch for the entertainment since some of his fans have viewing parties to take in his wisdom. Will he finally go so far over the top that he'll burn out ?
His wacko views have likely attracted a much wider audience than the far right, including moonbats and assorted lefties who sit in from the the idiot box transfixed, waiting for his head to explode in the middle of one of his drooling rants.
| 103 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:41:32pm |
| 104 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:41:41pm |
The one thing Glenn Beck has said that has bothered the crap out of me, was when he trashed soccer during the last world cup.
| 105 |
Dreader1962 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:41:42pm |
I stopped watching Fox completely after they programmed a comedy show. Before that, I was nauseated by the constant tabloid approach to everything, including the selection of stories. I would say that about 10% of the channel relays news (and that may be generous).
Of course, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, et al are at about 20%. I don't count the repetition of the same 1-2 minutes for each story as 'news'.
I remember that before cable, there was better news programming. Probably because they knew they had limited time and weren't trying to stuff 24 hours with cheaply produced 'filler'. One type of program I would like to see again is something like Firing Line.
| 106 |
Racer X Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:41:45pm |
re: #93 Noam Sayin'
Welcome to the club.
1HT
I got one!
Then I screwed it up with a first comment.
Duh-oh!
Sorry boss.
| 107 |
SteveC Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:41:49pm |
re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Looks like we got us a tribulation...That's a big 10-4 good buddy.
Hey Sod Buster, listen
You wanna put those long haired friends of Jesus microbus in behind the suicide jockey?
Yeah, he's haulin dynamite
He needs all the help he can git
| 108 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:41:59pm |
A pilot who allegedly stole a Cessna plane from a Canadian flight school and was pursued for hours across the Midwest by fighter jets, was taken into custody after he landed on a Missouri highway late today and took off running, an FBI spokesman said.
| 109 |
Wishing Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:42:17pm |
At least Beck blew that whole *concentration camp* meme out of the water.
| 110 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:42:44pm |
| 111 |
Dreader1962 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:43:17pm |
Watching a re-run of the show 'The True Story of Killing Pablo' on History International.
Ah, memories...
| 112 |
Randall Gross Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:43:52pm |
Glen Beck identifies with Howard Beale , perhaps this day will come for him...
| 114 |
Mich-again Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:44:27pm |
re: #95 Thanos
Looked back at the vid and in the sidebar it says yes....
Saw that film back in the college days at some art theater. Never did get to see the TH live but had most all their CD's.
| 115 |
avanti Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:44:35pm |
re: #84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I can't figure it out.
Well, at least he's not in Congress like Pelosi, I can't explain her either.
| 116 |
Wishing Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:44:47pm |
re: #110 Radicchio ad Absurdum
Evacuated the Wisconsin state capitol
Aww, but Obama LOVES the Turks! Cmon! He was just coming down from Canada for a visit with the Man!
| 117 |
jcm Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:44:48pm |
OHMYGODWEAREALLGOINGTODIE!
*runs in circle shrieking*
*phew*
I work up a mighty thirst with the end of the world stuff.
Where's the hatchling with the beer?
| 118 |
MandyManners Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:44:49pm |
FCBBHO.
That's the title of the memo.
He's a fucking Commie.
| 120 |
J.S. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:44:58pm |
re: #110 Radicchio ad Absurdum
You mean the Deranged Canadian who stole the plane and had NORAD chasing him?
| 121 |
doppelganglander Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:45:29pm |
re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The guy a few years back who stole a tank (and earned a permanent place on every episode of "World's Wildest Police Chases") saw that story and bowed down in awe.
| 122 |
Zimriel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:45:47pm |
re: #96 Sharmuta
I've seen enough of his rants on youtube to get a kick out of this.
I'll take your word for it. I've been exposed to too much apocalyptic literature already; Jewish, Christian, Islamic, Mormon, I think Zoroastrian, and there's even a "Left Path" of Buddhism or so I'm told. I worry sometimes that it's like taking cumulative doses of radioactive crazy, and that one more screaming rant will set off the Kookergeigermeter and drive me to that padded cell.
| 123 |
horse Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:46:15pm |
| 124 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:46:51pm |
| 126 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:46:59pm |
re: #81 avanti
Ok, riddle me this. I see that most of the conservatives here are not that fond of Beck's show. Having said that, what does it say about the rest of the base that his ratings are through the roof and might be number one soon ?
They can't all watch for the entertainment since some of his fans have viewing parties to take in his wisdom. Will he finally go so far over the top that he'll burn out ?
* * * * *
It is a fallacy to assume ALL CONSERVATIVES subscribe to cable tv, watch Fox News, or watch Glenn Beck. If I hadn't been laid off, I would never see his show which plays back East at 5pm.
You cannot assume ALL of Beck's ratings come ONLY from conservatives, either.
Beck's not John Belushi on cocaine, nor Chris Farley on whatever drugs he was on--all of which was apparently ok by NBC network people.
| 127 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:47:16pm |
This looks about as funny as an American Carol.
I enjoyed that movie, because it was a political movie parody that was quite conservative, but it was VERY slapstick at times, and I mean c'mon, the best we can do is a bunch of fat jokes @ Michael Moore?
| 128 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:47:23pm |
Pilot a turkish immigrant. Wonder if he's Amish...
| 129 |
Mich-again Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:47:31pm |
re: #119 tommoon
I will always remember you Charles as a good man. Goodbye
...jumps out of basement window
| 130 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:47:50pm |
re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Pilot a turkish immigrant. Wonder if he's Amish...
Maybe he'll make us a good fireplace mantle.
| 131 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:47:56pm |
re: #62 alegrias
* * * *
Beck has a first amendment right to say his peace, and a hit tv show on which to say his peaces.Please get a grip and realize Beck is a tv show entertainer, NOT a political party.
Painting Beck as the face of conservatives is what partisan hacks in the White House tried to do with another entertainer recently.
I agree with you on the 1st Amendment issue. Some claim he is screaming fire and I disagree but it can be argued by others. As far as the style of the show it's not something I tend to watch and I don't. I admit that I watched a few clip which focused on some returning veterans and found them interesting.
The problem of course with Beck is a practical one. He has raised a lot of eyebrows across the country and has a tendency to play the conspiracy card frequently. The practical problem is that he is identified as a conservative. At the same time he also puts out a lot of Alex Jones type conspiracy theories.
Thus when he speaks he is a de facto voice for conservatives and the GOP. Considering the controversy he has caused so far I think that association will only harm conservatives and Republicans which in the end will on further distance independents from a conservative cause. On a personal level he does not affect me and at the same time I am not bothered by those that like to watch his show.
In the end it all boils down to Glenn Beck being bad PR for conservatives.
| 132 |
ziggyelman Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:48:03pm |
re: #89 Dar ul Harbarian
I would love to have an opinion on this but I have never watched Glenn Beck
Well, there are lots of clips on youtube...like this one...
| 134 |
Noam Sayin' Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:48:37pm |
re: #106 Racer X
I got one!
Then I screwed it up with a first comment.
Duh-oh!
Sorry boss.
Dude.
No one will repeat that.
| 135 |
J.S. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:48:56pm |
re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Born in 1977, somewhere in Turkey...then immigrated to Canada and became a Canadian citizen.
| 136 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:49:26pm |
re: #117 jcm
OHMYGODWEAREALLGOINGTODIE!
*runs in circle shrieking*
*phew*
I work up a mighty thirst with the end of the world stuff.
Where's the hatchling with the beer?
Last I checked, we are all going to die.
By the way, if anyone escapes that fate, please let the rest of us know!
| 137 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:49:46pm |
Dick Cheney bowed for King Abdullah too:
[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]
| 138 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:49:47pm |
| 139 |
Spar Kling Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:49:54pm |
Obviously, people watch Glenn Beck or he would be gone, so he must really be resonating with a lot of people. I think I've seen his program twice.
Just curious, anyone know what he was saying prior to Y2K?
-sk
| 140 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:50:15pm |
re: #119 tommoon
Charles no pick on Beck... I gonna cry...
| 141 |
A Man for all Seasons Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:50:20pm |
A warm Grads to the 2009 National NCAA Mens Basketball Champions..
The UNC Tar Heals..Very well deserved..
| 142 |
SteveC Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:50:42pm |
re: #119 tommoon
I will always remember you Charles as a good man. Goodbye
TARGET! Bogie Inbound, bearing 233, speed 300 knots!
Who we got out there?
Mandy and Charles, along with FBV and doppelganglander.
| 143 |
jaunte Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:51:13pm |
So once upon a time there was no fighting at LGF and no one was 'attacked,' and on the the other hand, once upon a time there was a lot of grand fighting and free-wheeling discussion. Which mythos will you have?
| 144 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:51:17pm |
re: #141 HoosierHoops
All praise to Obama. He blessed them.
| 146 |
Zimriel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:51:24pm |
re: #136 gmsc
Last I checked, we are all going to die.
By the way, if anyone escapes that fate, please let the rest of us know!
They did have Jesus on there across the table from Death. I expected them to trade insults, but they were remarkably well behaved. Kudos to them.
| 148 |
Wishing Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:52:06pm |
re: #139 Spar Kling
Obviously, people watch Glenn Beck or he would be gone, so he must really be resonating with a lot of people. I think I've seen his program twice.
Just curious, anyone know what he was saying prior to Y2K?
-sk
Buy Gold!
jk, I don't have any idea.
| 149 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:52:12pm |
re: #100 J.S.
by Leoncavallo....(Pagliacci -- fabulous opera, btw.)
* * * *
Thank you, I was think cavallo cavallleria rusticana, but clearly had no clue! My elderly dad loved that crown crying scene.
If Glenn Beck sang opera bel canto, he would do this Pagliacci opera.
| 150 |
doppelganglander Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:52:42pm |
re: #142 SteveC
TARGET! Bogie Inbound, bearing 233, speed 300 knots!
Who we got out there?
Mandy and Charles, along with FBV and doppelganglander.
What did I do? Should I duck or something?
| 151 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:52:43pm |
| 152 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:52:49pm |
re: #146 Zimriel
Isn't having Lord Humongous a bit of an anachronism? Isn't he supposed to be born well after the end times?
| 153 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:52:57pm |
| 154 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:53:05pm |
re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Charles no pick on Beck... I gonna cry...
Big boys... they don't cry eye eye.
They don't cry.
Big boys... they don't cry.
//
| 155 |
doppelganglander Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:53:08pm |
| 156 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:53:09pm |
#119 tommoon
Sorry, you don't get to leave your dramatic goodbye comment. See ya!
| 157 |
stevieray Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:53:24pm |
OT:
I forwarded Bill Whittle's piece today to a friend, and she wants to read more of his stuff. I'm trying to find "Tribes", but all of the links to his archive redirect to Pajama's, and their site doesn't have the essay.
Anyone have an active link to "Tribes"?
| 158 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:53:48pm |
re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Charles no pick on Beck... I gonna cry...
Troll get scorched, I'll get the carving ware: Any soda or side dish requests?
| 159 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:54:01pm |
re: #156 Charles
#119 tommoon
Sorry, you don't get to leave your dramatic goodbye comment. See ya!
*Charles pulls lever to open trap door*
| 160 |
jcm Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:54:10pm |
re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Pilot a turkish immigrant. Wonder if he's Amish...
Horse drawn planes?
Now I've heard of everything!
| 161 |
The Shadow Do Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:54:13pm |
re: #141 HoosierHoops
A warm Grads to the 2009 National NCAA Mens Basketball Champions..
The UNC Tar Heals..Very well deserved..
No one got within 10. Men among boys. Reminds me of the old UCLA era when anyone who had game begged to play there. NC is set for as far out as I can see.
| 164 |
SteveC Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:54:48pm |
re: #150 doppelganglander
What did I do? Should I duck or something?
Remember the first encounter with the black jets in Top Gun? "Who we got out there?" "Maverick and Goose."
| 165 |
Zimriel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:55:06pm |
re: #158 Dark_Falcon
Troll get scorched, I'll get the carving ware: Any soda or side dish requests?
He already brought the whine...
| 166 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:55:16pm |
| 168 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:55:23pm |
re: #164 SteveC
Remember the first encounter with the black jets in Top Gun? "Who we got out there?" "Maverick and Goose."
Goes good with a chardonay
| 169 |
Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:55:23pm |
The carnival freak show has a certain universal appeal which brings out the worst in each of us.re: #137 Charles
Dick Cheney bowed for King Abdullah too:
[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]
Abdullah da moolah mullah.
| 170 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:55:47pm |
| 172 |
SteveC Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:56:04pm |
re: #156 Charles
#119 tommoon
Sorry, you don't get to leave your dramatic goodbye comment. See ya!
Ghostrider this is Voodoo One, Splash Bogie!
| 173 |
pink freud Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:56:38pm |
re: #157 stevieray
OT:
I forwarded Bill Whittle's piece today to a friend, and she wants to read more of his stuff. I'm trying to find "Tribes", but all of the links to his archive redirect to Pajama's, and their site doesn't have the essay.
Anyone have an active link to "Tribes"?
[Link: web.archive.org...]
| 174 |
abolitionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:56:57pm |
I liked the conversations from history, or whatever it was called that Steve Allen used to do. He'd have 3 or 4 guests sitting around a table and discussing various topics --guests like Abe Lincoln, Isaac Newton, Genghis Khan, Jesus, Trotsky, Muhammad, Galileo, Thomas Jefferson ...
/showing my age
| 175 |
Spar Kling Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:57:15pm |
| 176 |
Salem Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:57:22pm |
Yeah, that was cute. Fox News- Fear and Unbalanced. I remember when Fox was pretty good. Maybe I remember wrong. Maybe I just was charmed by the idea of a news network that was outside of the DNC tank. I wish someone would start a Sane News Network, but I suppose there just isn't any money in it. The middle is always being overpowered by the left in the right just by virtue of not being loud and hysterical enough.
| 177 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:57:38pm |
re: #169 Spare O'Lake
The carnival freak show has a certain universal appeal which brings out the worst in each of us.
Abdullah da moolah mullah.
Cheney didn't technically bow, he sneezed, and the Fat Controller just happened to be standing there with a medal.
| 178 |
Mich-again Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:57:45pm |
Glen Beck reminds me of Don in Napoleon Dynamite.
| 179 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:58:03pm |
re: #115 avanti
Well, at least he's not in Congress like Pelosi, I can't explain her either.
* * * *
People here fear Beck, while ignoring the power crazy Nancy Pelosi who is 3rd in line to the Presidency, has her own Air Force Three military transport plane to jet back and forth doing Crazy California style business, and wanted us to lose the war against islamist terrorists, open the borders, cut defense, kiss Bashir Al Assad's ass, etc.
Perspective please--Pelosi is far more dangerous to our health than Glenn Beck.
| 180 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:58:04pm |
re: #157 stevieray
OT:
I forwarded Bill Whittle's piece today to a friend, and she wants to read more of his stuff. I'm trying to find "Tribes", but all of the links to his archive redirect to Pajama's, and their site doesn't have the essay.
Anyone have an active link to "Tribes"?
Wayback machine to the rescue! Here's TRIBES.
| 181 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:58:16pm |
re: #176 Salem
Yeah, that was cute. Fox News- Fear and Unbalanced. I remember when Fox was pretty good. Maybe I remember wrong. Maybe I just was charmed by the idea of a news network that was outside of the DNC tank. I wish someone would start a Sane News Network, but I suppose there just isn't any money in it. The middle is always being overpowered by the left in the right just by virtue of not being loud and hysterical enough.
The BBC is fairly close, they do lean slightly left, but thats just because its a British slant. Otherwise its more or less sane.
| 182 |
A Kiwi Infidel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:58:35pm |
re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Looks like we got us a tribulation...That's a big 10-4 good ....shhsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
One of the things that got me thinking about religion, God, Jesus and all that stuff before I became born again was when I was stuck in a small hotel room and read the Book of Revelation, from about Chapter 4 onward I became riveted. It scared the living crap outta me. If this was true then we are all in deep deep deep shit. I believe it is. Get right with God, people, before you wake up one morning and the news is, well, like 9-11, but upscaled by a few hundred points, and that will be just the start,
| 183 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:58:45pm |
re: #175 Spar Kling
So, why'd they have to send two F-16s? ;-)
-sk
Why the fuck didn't they just blow it out of the sky?
| 184 |
pink freud Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:58:47pm |
| 185 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:59:03pm |
re: #173 pink freud
[Link: web.archive.org...]
re: #180 gmsc
Wayback machine to the rescue! Here's TRIBES.
GMTA!
Go with Pink Feud's link, it's easier to read.
| 186 |
stevieray Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:59:10pm |
| 187 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:59:19pm |
re: #181 Hengineer
The BBC is fairly close, they do lean slightly left, but thats just because its a British slant. Otherwise its more or less sane.
You're kidding?
| 188 |
Zimriel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:59:20pm |
re: #174 abolitionist
I liked the conversations from history, or whatever it was called that Steve Allen used to do. He'd have 3 or 4 guests sitting around a table and discussing various topics --guests like Abe Lincoln, Isaac Newton, Genghis Khan, Jesus, Trotsky, Muhammad, Galileo, Thomas Jefferson ...
/showing my age
Yeah, a time when people would actually dare have Mo on a show.
I wonder if there is a vast landfill in Nevada where they shovelled in this nation's testicles in the late 1980s.
| 189 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 8:59:41pm |
re: #183 Radicchio ad Absurdum
The people it might crash into. Gravity sucks.
| 190 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:00:11pm |
re: #182 A Kiwi Infidel
Revelations reads like stereo instructions to me. I try to keep it simple.
| 191 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:00:18pm |
| 192 |
doppelganglander Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:00:25pm |
re: #164 SteveC
Remember the first encounter with the black jets in Top Gun? "Who we got out there?" "Maverick and Goose."
Oh! Kewl!
| 193 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:00:47pm |
Time to ride the pillow-top for a few hours!
| 194 |
Sharmuta Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:00:56pm |
re: #189 Dan G.
The people it might crash into. Gravity sucks.
No, no- the earth sucks. Gravity is a conspiracy of the global scientific cabal! ///
| 195 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:01:38pm |
re: #191 Dark_Falcon
Think spicy sourkrout. It is a Korean side dish. Cabbage, spicy pepper, fish oil, and some time fermenting... you'll love it or hate it.
| 196 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:01:44pm |
| 197 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:01:48pm |
re: #194 Sharmuta
No, no- the earth sucks. Gravity is a conspiracy of the global scientific cabal! ///
Gravity is just a theory and students should be presented with alternative views on that which makes us heavy.
//
| 198 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:01:59pm |
re: #187 Bagua
You're kidding?
Not really. The BBC is fortunate enough not to have to do the whole shitty "Ratings" bullshit that American networks and Cable shows deal with. I get sick of the sensationalism on our news.
Case in point: A short while back there was a nuclear power plant that shut down in Florida. There was no problem, the automation shut the plant down like it should have. Dillweed Shepherd Smith was trying to probe and probe to make a huge "blockbuster" of a story out of it while the spokesperson was like "WTF is your problem this is NOT A STORY. NOTHING HAPPENED"
| 199 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:02:07pm |
re: #131 Gus 802
In the end it all boils down to Glenn Beck being bad PR for conservatives.
He's a very small piece of a much larger problem. If he didn't have a following he'd be just a minor embarrassment. There's a lot of bad craziness going around these days. Far too many conservatives are confused, scared, poorly informed, believe in conspiracies. People are taking Ron Paul's economics seriously, Pat Buchanan is gaining popularity and Stormfront and Lew Rockwell are promoting the Tea Parties. It's insanity.
| 201 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:02:09pm |
re: #195 Dan G.
Think spicy sourkrout. It is a Korean side dish. Cabbage, spicy pepper, fish oil, and some time fermenting... you'll love it or hate it.
I love it.
| 202 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:02:15pm |
re: #194 Sharmuta
sigh... another night another earth-sucks-ist... ;)
/
| 203 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:02:43pm |
re: #189 Dan G.
The people it might crash into. Gravity sucks.
Especially when you're near a black hole. :)
| 204 |
Salem Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:02:55pm |
re: #181 Hengineer
The BBC is fairly close, they do lean slightly left, but thats just because its a British slant. Otherwise its more or less sane.
Yeah, at least they have a good command of the language. Shep Smith would be laughed off the air in Britain, not made the primary anchor.
| 205 |
pink freud Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:02:56pm |
re: #186 stevieray
Ahh! The internet archive! Of course!
Thanks, Pink
You're welcome! It's a keeper.
| 206 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:03:15pm |
re: #196 Radicchio ad Absurdum
When trade-off time comes. If the plane is heading for a high value target, then blast it. Also, don't underestimate the intimidation factor; it seemed to have worked.
| 207 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:03:23pm |
re: #131 Gus 802
* * * *
Sorry but it is a strawman argument to make Glenn Beck representative of conservatives.
Bill Maher strikes me as a pompous pontificating ass of some intelligence, but twisted--yet I don't assume Maher represents all democrats or liberals.
Nice try to divide and conquer, or stifle dissent.
| 209 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:03:42pm |
re: #195 Dan G.
Think spicy sourkrout. It is a Korean side dish. Cabbage, spicy pepper, fish oil, and some time fermenting... you'll love it or hate it.
I think asparagus would go better with troll.
| 210 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:03:48pm |
re: #199 Killgore Trout
He's a very small piece of a much larger problem. If he didn't have a following he'd be just a minor embarrassment. There's a lot of bad craziness going around these days. Far too many conservatives are confused, scared, poorly informed, believe in conspiracies. People are taking Ron Paul's economics seriously, Pat Buchanan is gaining popularity and Stormfront and Lew Rockwell are promoting the Tea Parties. It's insanity.
I know. I guess some of these things have taken a life of their own. Not much you can do about it.
| 211 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:03:50pm |
re: #204 Salem
Yeah, at least they have a good command of the language. Shep Smith would be laughed off the air in Britain, not made the primary anchor.
Besides, there are no such thing as "anchors" on the BBC. They are called "presenters" because THATS ALL THEY DO. "Present" the news.
| 212 |
NelsFree Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:03:50pm |
Okay, have we realized that the Jesus character looks too much like Chuck Norris?
| 213 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:03:57pm |
I think 7,000,000 is coming tonight....y'all have fun with it.
| 214 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:04:22pm |
re: #157 stevieray
Maybe it's just me but I was kinda unimpressed with his article today. I've loved him in the past but the one from today fell flat. I guess it's just me, I'm thinking along different lines these days.
| 215 |
Spar Kling Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:04:24pm |
re: #183 Radicchio ad Absurdum
Why the fuck didn't they just blow it out of the sky?
Well, what if it was your plane that the guy stole? ;-)
-sk
| 217 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:05:01pm |
re: #213 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think 7,000,000 is coming tonight....y'all have fun with it.
We've still got about 4,000 messages to go, so maybe not tonight, but definitely soon.
| 218 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:05:04pm |
re: #198 Hengineer
On a case by case basis, I'm sure you could find balance, even good reporting, but that is overwhelmed by the deceptive bias that is the rule at the BBC on a whole slew of topics.
| 220 |
J.S. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:05:29pm |
re: #198 Hengineer
On occasion the BBC will also have on some interesting documentaries (there was a documentary, a while back, about a group of chinese villagers having to re-locate -- it was a fascinating perspective -- quite rare to actually film inside China -- and the other day there was also a series on about the history of mathematics...)
| 221 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:05:42pm |
re: #209 Dark_Falcon
Both are rather strong flavored... I though something spicy would balance the palate well.
| 222 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:05:45pm |
re: #215 Spar Kling
Well, what if it was your plane that the guy stole? ;-)
-sk
Well that would suck, because I would have paid him to properly ditch the plane so I could make an insurance claim. Now what am I left with?
| 224 |
Sharmuta Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:05:54pm |
re: #197 Gus 802
Gravity is just a theory and students should be presented with alternative views on that which makes us heavy.
//
Exactly! ;p
| 225 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:06:38pm |
re: #218 Bagua
On a case by case basis, I'm sure you could find balance, even good reporting, but that is overwhelmed by the deceptive bias that is the rule at the BBC on a whole slew of topics.
I know there is Bagua, thats why I said it has a slightly left slant (bias) because it is British.
I read the Economist, and its going to be a more conservative magazine because it caters to political and higher economics. However, even the Economist leans to the left compared to us on many issues. Its just a British thing I suppose (They believe in man-made global warming, for example).
| 226 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:06:56pm |
re: #211 Hengineer
Besides, there are no such thing as "anchors" on the BBC. They are called "presenters" because THATS ALL THEY DO. "Present" the news.
Except that they are "presenting" a steady stream of anti-Israel propaganda masked as news.
Just to pick one example.
| 228 |
Bob Dillon Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:07:02pm |
re: #157 stevieray
OT:
I forwarded Bill Whittle's piece today to a friend, and she wants to read more of his stuff. I'm trying to find "Tribes", but all of the links to his archive redirect to Pajama's, and their site doesn't have the essay.
Anyone have an active link to "Tribes"?
[Link: www.bryanstrawser.com...]
some of it.
| 229 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:07:13pm |
re: #207 alegrias
* * * *
Sorry but it is a strawman argument to make Glenn Beck representative of conservatives.Bill Maher strikes me as a pompous pontificating ass of some intelligence, but twisted--yet I don't assume Maher represents all democrats or liberals.
Nice try to divide and conquer, or stifle dissent.
Stifle dissent? How is my opinion stifling dissent? Are you of the mind that thinks I should be silent and just follow a heard?
Actually, Maher does represent liberals for a lot of people and he is frequently used an example of "liberal thinking."
Divide and conquer? Sorry but I find that laughable.
| 230 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:07:27pm |
re: #226 Bagua
Except that they are "presenting" a steady stream of anti-Israel propaganda masked as news.
Just to pick one example.
I'm aware of much of the anti-Israel bias.
/rolleyes
| 233 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:08:04pm |
re: #221 Dan G.
Both are rather strong flavored... I though something spicy would balance the palate well.
Fair enough. I'm not a big fan of spicy, but it would probably work well. I'll make sure to have some handy for a future troll roast.
| 234 |
jamihabs Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:08:39pm |
Sorry, this is just stupid. Not true, not funny, just stupid
| 235 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:08:44pm |
| 236 |
Bob Dillon Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:08:46pm |
re: #228 Bobibutu
Damn! To quote Mandy ... "I can't keep up"
| 237 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:08:47pm |
re: #233 Dark_Falcon
Fair enough. I'm not a big fan of spicy, but it would probably work well. I'll make sure to have some handy for a future troll roast.
Wrap the troll in a leaf and cook it Korean style on your own table.
| 238 |
shiplord kirel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:08:55pm |
re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Really not trying to play the religious angle, but don't Mormons have some serious "end of days" planning, etc.? I have a Mormon cousin with years of food stuffs and weapons stored.
Mormons are big on survival and emergency planning, but this isn't particularly linked to any kind of "last days" thinking in the sense of a divinely ordained end of the world.
Personally, I think there would be little point in trying to survive such an event. I know quite a few Mormons. My take on their survival preparations is that these are aimed at a temporary period of persecution or disruption and are designed to preserve the church and civilization for the future. In a the coming Apocalypse as fundamentalists see it, there would be no such future.
| 241 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:09:31pm |
re: #174 abolitionist
I liked the conversations from history, or whatever it was called that Steve Allen used to do. He'd have 3 or 4 guests sitting around a table and discussing various topics --guests like Abe Lincoln, Isaac Newton, Genghis Khan, Jesus, Trotsky, Muhammad, Galileo, Thomas Jefferson ...
/showing my age
* * * *
Back when tv was run by adults, for adults.
Public Radio had serious programming that was fair & balance.
Maybe it was only to keep up with the Soviets-- a cultural arms race so we wouldn't be called nekulturny!
| 242 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:09:38pm |
re: #235 Gus 802
We must silence the dissent!
Teach the controversy: gravity.
//
Science is for people who are going to hell!
//
| 243 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:09:47pm |
re: #230 Hengineer
That is just the one example, and no they are not typical of the British.
| 244 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:10:23pm |
re: #235 Gus 802
On a serious note. I've had anti-science types try to pass off the idea that gravity is a density driven phenomena...
| 245 |
stevieray Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:10:25pm |
| 246 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:10:26pm |
| 247 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:10:39pm |
re: #242 Hengineer
Science is for people who are going to hell!
//
So that's what all those FEMA coffins are for. ////
| 248 |
Zimriel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:11:12pm |
re: #194 Sharmuta
No, no- the earth sucks. Gravity is a conspiracy of the global scientific cabal! ///
Dear Charles,
I am saddened by the Galileianist bias I'm catching from this sharmuta. I am not some kind of ignorant moron; I have a degree in kinesiology from a big university (I'm not going to bore you with the details; your echo chamber will just harass them). What about alternate theories? WHAT ABOUT CRITICAL THINKING? There are some wonderful theories out there, like Prime Mover Theory, and no-one discusses why Aristotelians are discriminated against. What have these so-called "teachers" got to hide? Do you hate philosophy?
| 249 |
Sharmuta Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:11:24pm |
re: #235 Gus 802
We must silence the dissent!
Teach the controversy: gravity.
//
Newton wrote a book on it. Know who else wrote a book? Hitler. Think about it. //
| 250 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:11:25pm |
re: #243 Bagua
That is just the one example, and no they are not typical of the British.
I'm not saying "typical" of the British, just that their political spectrum leans a tad to the left when compared to ours.
I'm not going to include ex-pats because the ones that defect here tend to be more conservative than even their conservative party (and even in America that can be quite moderate). I should know, I've met one.
| 251 |
freetoken Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:11:44pm |
re: #212 NelsFree
Okay, have we realized that the Jesus character looks too much like Chuck Norris?
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
| 252 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:11:46pm |
re: #244 Dan G.
On a serious note. I've had anti-science types try to pass off the idea that gravity is a density driven phenomena...
No doubt. I've never heard that one before but I am sure there are plenty of other magical definitions or theories of gravity.
| 253 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:12:02pm |
re: #246 alegrias
* * * *
Korean spicy sauerkraut.
/Has it ever occurred to you that sauerkraut might just be mild Kimchi?
| 255 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:12:09pm |
re: #249 Sharmuta
Newton wrote a book on it. Know who else wrote a book? Hitler. Think about it. //
Glenn Beck wrote a book...
discuss
| 256 |
LGoPs Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:12:10pm |
I don't watch Beck but then again I've watched little since November 5th. This video is a caricature and that's fine as long as it's understand that it is a caricature.
Perhaps appropriate, perhaps not.
The only thing I'm saying is that many people came to believe Tina Fey's caricature about Sarah Palin seeing Russia from her house and voted accordingly.
If Beck's an idiot so be it. James Carville is an idiot as well and I see him as far more hateful.
| 257 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:12:22pm |
re: #253 Radicchio ad Absurdum
/Has it ever occurred to you that sauerkraut might just be mild Kimchi?
Weak-ass Germans!
| 258 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:12:30pm |
| 260 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:12:54pm |
re: #249 Sharmuta
Newton wrote a book on it. Know who else wrote a book? Hitler. Think about it. //
Right. Hitler, the Leftist. //
| 262 |
Racer X Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:13:11pm |
You are on the bus when you suddenly realize ... you need to fart.
The music is really loud, so you time your farts with the beat. After a couple of songs, you start to feel better as you approach your stop.
As you are leaving the bus, people are really staring you down, and that's when you realize, you have been listening to your ipod.
| 263 |
NelsFree Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:13:14pm |
re: #174 abolitionist
I liked the conversations from history, or whatever it was called that Steve Allen used to do. He'd have 3 or 4 guests sitting around a table and discussing various topics --guests like Abe Lincoln, Isaac Newton, Genghis Khan, Jesus, Trotsky, Muhammad, Galileo, Thomas Jefferson ...
/showing my age
Showing MY age, I believe the show was called, "Meeting of the Minds". I really liked Cleopatra...
| 264 |
Zimriel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:13:22pm |
re: #234 jamihabs
Sorry, this is just stupid. Not true, not funny, just stupid
Registered since: May 20, 2007 at 1:35 pm
(Logged in)
No. of comments posted: 52
There's room for one more on the grill!
| 265 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:13:36pm |
re: #250 Hengineer
Yes I agree, but I do think you may be a bit snowed by the BBC, yes they "present" the news in a manner more pleasant to the ear, with the US news considered "grating" by comparison, but the message they preach is subversive, and dominated by minority representation.
| 267 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:15:17pm |
re: #265 Bagua
Yes I agree, but I do think you may be a bit snowed by the BBC, yes they "present" the news in a manner more pleasant to the ear, with the US news considered "grating" by comparison, but the message they preach is subversive, and dominated by minority representation.
I'm not snowed by the BBC, I'm comparing them to CNN. Fox news can present with a slightly conservative bias, but I still think that the best way to get the news from TV is with a guy reading the news, and that's it. No commentary, no music, no Shepherd Smith or Geraldo pointing to a map with a camera in a poor, downtrodden African-American's face in NOLA.
| 268 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:15:19pm |
This is what I'm talking about.....
OOPS: “The government’s official view that toxic assets are incorrectly priced due to illiquidity ‘fire sales’ is wrong, a new study by Harvard and Princeton finance professors suggests. . . . The striking conclusion is that the low prices of toxic assets actually reflect the fundamentals, rather than being driven by an illiquidity discount.” If they’re right, the whole enterprise is a colossal screwup. Are they? Beats me.Posted at 11:33 pm by Glenn Reynolds
Follow the link, scroll down......What's they're source for this "information"? LEW ROCKWELL! Why the fuck is Glenn Reynolds linking to shit from Lew Rockwell?
I'm getting ready to delete him from my bookmarks. I'm sure he's a nice guy, I don't think he's crazy. What's the deal?
| 269 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:15:21pm |
re: #252 Gus 802
No doubt. I've never heard that one before but I am sure there are plenty of other magical definitions or theories of gravity.
Read this shocking expose that gives you a look at the real agenda of the Newtonists!
Warning: Gravity is "Only a Theory"
////////////
| 270 |
Racer X Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:15:32pm |
Chuck Norris knows Victoria's Secret.
He won't tell.
| 272 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:16:27pm |
re: #269 gmsc
Read this shocking expose that gives you a look at the real agenda of the Newtonists!
Warning: Gravity is "Only a Theory"
////////////
While Entropy is an actual Law.
Don't break the law, you'll go to jail.
| 274 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:17:01pm |
re: #269 gmsc
Read this shocking expose that gives you a look at the real agenda of the Newtonists!
Warning: Gravity is "Only a Theory"
////////////
My oh my. Please tell that's a spoof site.
| 276 |
shiplord kirel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:17:41pm |
re: #268 Killgore Trout
Yikes! Is this the result of some kind of contagious disease, genetically engineered in Soros's laboratories to make conservatives crazy? Will we all be nuts by the end of April?
| 277 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:17:49pm |
re: #273 Sharmuta
Actually, its open ended; perfect for any Godwin's Law occasion!
| 278 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:18:19pm |
re: #269 gmsc
Read this shocking expose that gives you a look at the real agenda of the Newtonists!
Warning: Gravity is "Only a Theory"
////////////
Actually, its quite interesting but Gravity is called "Law" of Gravity.
| 279 |
freetoken Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:18:22pm |
re: #268 Killgore Trout
Why the fuck is Glenn Reynolds linking to shit from Lew Rockwell?
Is Reynolds getting desperate for site hits? On the whole, over the past 2 years or so, he seems to have migrated to more and more fring-y sources.
| 280 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:18:29pm |
re: #274 Gus 802
My oh my. Please tell that's a spoof site.
Please tell ME that's a spoof site.
PIMF
| 281 |
OnTheRightSide Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:18:31pm |
Video started well, especially the Mad Max guy. But then goes downhill.
But why so much hate on Beck all of a sudden? He is genuinely a good, honest guy. He was the host at a benefit dinner I went to last year for the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and he knew his stuff on radical Islam and anti-Semitism.
He cries a few times, and everyone jumps on him for it. The guy is a breath of fresh air.
| 282 |
Zimriel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:19:12pm |
re: #276 shiplord kirel
Yikes! Is this the result of some kind of contagious disease, genetically engineered in Soros's laboratories to make conservatives crazy? Will we all be nuts by the end of April?
I hope not.
| 283 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:19:14pm |
re: #229 Gus 802
Stifle dissent? How is my opinion stifling dissent? Are you of the mind that thinks I should be silent and just follow a heard?
Actually, Maher does represent liberals for a lot of people and he is frequently used an example of "liberal thinking."
Divide and conquer? Sorry but I find that laughable.
* ** *
Your previous comment seemed to imply that because you said Beck was bad PR for conservatives, Beck should be encouraged to fold tent, shut up, go away. I disagree, and likewise, while Maher is a major turnoff for me personally, let him exercise his free speech rights.
You have your opinion which I respect but disagree with, and Beck has his multiple personalities, which I often find funny.
| 284 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:19:17pm |
re: #279 freetoken
Is Reynolds getting desperate for site hits? On the whole, over the past 2 years or so, he seems to have migrated to more and more fring-y sources.
We've all migrated here.
| 285 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:19:37pm |
re: #278 Hengineer
Universal Law of Gravitation vs. The Theory of Gravity.
The law explains the phenomenon, the theory tries to explain what's behind it (i.e. what causes the phenomenon).
| 286 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:19:37pm |
re: #267 Hengineer
No offense meant, but the BBC and CNN both have a similar liberal bias when taken in context.
It may be possible that you better understand the issues important to "conservatives" in the US, and thus don't notice their UK agenda as much?
| 287 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:20:26pm |
re: #103 alegrias
* * * *
He's got a hit tv show and you don't.
Same could be said of Oprah. Just sayin'.
| 288 |
Egregious Philbin Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:20:37pm |
Phil Hendrie was riffing on Beck the other night. Glen used to come and observe Phil's comedy radio show so that he could steal whatever he could.
I think Beck just has a crappy show, same with Savage, essentially, non animated cartoons.
Its all sideshow carney barker garbage, fun for a bit, but for God's sake, don't take it to heart and start believing the dogsqueeze they are putting out.
| 289 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:20:44pm |
re: #286 Bagua
No offense meant, but the BBC and CNN both have a similar liberal bias when taken in context.
It may be possible that you better understand the issues important to "conservatives" in the US, and thus don't notice their UK agenda as much?
I'm not saying there are "conservatives" in the UK, just that its a relative spectrum, that's all.
| 290 |
jaunte Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:20:57pm |
re: #268 Killgore Trout
Did you read some of the details in that study? The professors have built a model they describe at the outset as 'preliminary and incomplete.' I don't know how anyone can make a valid predicton from it.
| 292 |
Zimriel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:21:02pm |
re: #281 OnTheRightSide
Video started well, especially the Mad Max guy. But then goes downhill.
But why so much hate on Beck all of a sudden? He is genuinely a good, honest guy. He was the host at a benefit dinner I went to last year for the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and he knew his stuff on radical Islam and anti-Semitism.
He cries a few times, and everyone jumps on him for it. The guy is a breath of fresh air.
Registered since: Aug 28, 2007 at 6:13 pm
(Logged in)
No. of comments posted: 46
Another sleeper...
| 293 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:21:03pm |
re: #289 Hengineer
I'm not saying there aren't "conservatives" in the UK, just that its a relative spectrum, that's all.
PIMF
| 294 |
NelsFree Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:21:04pm |
| 295 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:21:06pm |
re: #281 OnTheRightSide
He's hyperbolic. If he cannot substantiate his fears with actual evidence, he has no business spreading them.
| 297 |
horse Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:22:27pm |
re: #81 avanti
Beck has what, 2 MM to 2.5 MM viewers in the afternoon? Though very big for cable ratings, it isn't huge for the USA population. I don't know the demographics for the show, but I bet the viewers skew older and toward social conservatives. Remember, the USA has around 48 MM citizens over 60, and 25 MM adult "social conservatives" (but these two populations overlap). Say the combined target demographic is around 65 MM people.
So he gets 3% of the target demographic to watch his show. Again, great for cable ratings, but it's not a political movement, and the viewers of the show are not the type of conservatives to hang out at a place like LGF. Doom and apocalypse is one way communication meant for absorption and not critique. LGF commenting is multi-way communications with some heavy critiquing. Two very different audiences.
| 298 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:22:27pm |
re: #268 Killgore Trout
Hey Kilgore! You said " I'm sure he's a nice guy, I don't think he's crazy." - and I'm sure you were referring to Beck not Rockwell. I don't know if he's crazy or not - I've only watched one of his shows, but I'm not so sure he's a nice guy, either.
And I don't think it's appropriate to compare Beck to Maher. Maher is just a sort of quasi-intellectual Leftist who just doesn't get what Socialism is all about.
Beck strikes me as a continuation of the old Joe Pine and Alan somebodyorother who whips his audience into seething rages, I mean sometimes literally foaming at the mouth and spittle flying out type rages.
Neither Maher nor Beck does much to educate anyone about anything. Beck goes to sourcing ROCKWELL? How about just sourcing Obama on economic matters - it's far worse that that pond scum Rockwell could come up with and Beck doesn't appear to be intelligent enough to understand that.
| 299 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:22:29pm |
re: #283 alegrias
* ** *
Your previous comment seemed to imply that because you said Beck was bad PR for conservatives, Beck should be encouraged to fold tent, shut up, go away. I disagree, and likewise, while Maher is a major turnoff for me personally, let him exercise his free speech rights.You have your opinion which I respect but disagree with, and Beck has his multiple personalities, which I often find funny.
OK, that's fine. Perhaps I read too much into the PR issue or perhaps not. Since I can't control any of this there's not much else I can do other than express an opinion. There are far more urgent matters in this world.
| 301 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:23:32pm |
re: #296 gmsc
Yes, it is.
Thought so. It's pretty funny. I guess the catch is to see how many people think it's not a spoof site.
| 302 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:23:34pm |
re: #274 Gus 802
My oh my. Please tell that's a spoof site.
Go through the reDiscovery Institute's site! It's a hilarious spoof site!
I like their "State of Kansas Periodic Table".
| 304 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:23:51pm |
re: #253 Radicchio ad Absurdum
/Has it ever occurred to you that sauerkraut might just be mild Kimchi?
* * **
I've never given kimchi deep thought! You're right it's the case of the chicken or the egg, hard to know which came first.
Fermented foods are definitely foods for survivors.
| 305 |
OnTheRightSide Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:24:13pm |
re: #256 LGoPs
To this day, I have liberal friends saying that Sarah Palin is stupid for saying she can see Russia from her house! It doesn't matter she never said that, it is what most people think.
Any threats need to be isolated and smeared. Beck is next on the list.
| 306 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:24:21pm |
re: #304 alegrias
* * **
I've never given kimchi deep thought! You're right it's the case of the chicken or the egg, hard to know which came first.Fermented foods are definitely foods for survivors.
We're all survivors!
/drinks beer.
| 307 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:24:33pm |
re: #289 Hengineer
Yes I agree it is relative in context, but if I could go into depth I could show you how the BBC daily insult and undermines the traditional British way of life, while constantly championing those things they are biased towards.
| 308 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:24:44pm |
re: #302 gmsc
Go through the reDiscovery Institute's site! It's a hilarious spoof site!
I like their "State of Kansas Periodic Table".
Looks like the "Periodic Table" link is incorrect.
| 309 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:24:51pm |
re: #298 realwest
Ah sorry, I was referring the Glenn Reyndolds. I've been reading him for a very long time. I don't want to bad mouth him too much but I'm very frustrated.
| 310 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:25:17pm |
re: #307 Bagua
Yes I agree it is relative in context, but if I could go into depth I could show you how the BBC daily insult and undermines the traditional British way of life, while constantly championing those things they are biased towards.
Well I don't see the BBC daily, maybe you do and understand more of it. If so, I bow to you and humbly accept anything you can offer.
| 311 |
landivar Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:25:21pm |
Dudes... you just don't get it. Glenn gets overdramatic, but he runs an entertaining show and he gets people motivated.
Sitting back and whining that the government is spending too much and that Islamo-fascists are taking over the world isn't enough... we need to get people motivated.
Seriously though, Glenn Beck is awesome if just for his "we surround them" message.
| 313 |
yesandno Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:25:58pm |
Can I sneak in here and say I like Beck?
He asks good questions, doesn't pretend to know all the answers, and sometimes, however, his pointing out of possibilities gets a bit fringe.
He warned of the economic disasters months before they finally occurred. He was the first person to interview Sarah Palin months before anyone had even heard of her. He does his homework. He reads. He is self made. And I don't think he is a wacky as he is portrayed. And I don't think he is a fake...I think he tells you the truth as how he sees it. You get to decide for yourself.
We are not all perfect....but he does raise the awareness of those who are going around uninformed by making them think. I like him personally, and he is funny. Perhaps he is being slighted by those who don't know when he is putting it on.
| 314 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:26:00pm |
Gravity vs. "Intelligent Falling":
| 315 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:26:26pm |
re: #137 Charles
Dick Cheney bowed for King Abdullah too:
[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]
Oh noes!1 Mai purfeck consearvtiv wurld iz falling aparts!1!
/
| 316 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:26:28pm |
re: #308 Gus 802
"Just a Theory" under the Chemistry header on the left.
| 317 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:26:40pm |
re: #308 Gus 802
Looks like the "Periodic Table" link is incorrect.
Oops. Sorry. Here's the correct link.
| 318 |
horse Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:27:08pm |
re: #175 Spar Kling
So, why'd they have to send two F-16s? ;-)
-sk
SOP; you always have a wingman protecting the lead aircraft.
| 319 |
landivar Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:27:38pm |
In response to the guy who was questioning why everyone is hating in Beck now, it is because he is effectively combating the leftist talking points. That gets him the ire and vitriol of the left which then gets him the distain of the right who want their leftist buddies to like them.
| 320 |
alegrias Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:27:52pm |
re: #281 OnTheRightSide
Video started well, especially the Mad Max guy. But then goes downhill.
But why so much hate on Beck all of a sudden? He is genuinely a good, honest guy. He was the host at a benefit dinner I went to last year for the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and he knew his stuff on radical Islam and anti-Semitism.
He cries a few times, and everyone jumps on him for it. The guy is a breath of fresh air.
* * *
I don't understand the vitriol against Beck either, but I don't watch every show he does. He seems a caring decent guy with a flair for the dramatic, and operatic, but about serious subjects.
On that note, good night all.
| 321 |
stevieray Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:28:12pm |
re: #214 Killgore Trout
Maybe it's just me but I was kinda unimpressed with his article today. I've loved him in the past but the one from today fell flat. I guess it's just me, I'm thinking along different lines these days.
Really? I thought it was one of his best. I think his message is a good one. I saw it as:
"Life requires active participation. Sitting on the sidelines breeds toxic resentment."
| 322 |
Zimriel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:28:32pm |
re: #268 Killgore Trout
This is what I'm talking about.....
Follow the link, scroll down......What's they're source for this "information"? LEW ROCKWELL! Why the fuck is Glenn Reynolds linking to shit from Lew Rockwell?
I'm getting ready to delete him from my bookmarks. I'm sure he's a nice guy, I don't think he's crazy. What's the deal?
I was following the Duke case in 2006-7, and one of the best commentators on it was one William Anderson. Back when all of the other papers either declared the Lacrosse players guilty, or else stayed silent, Anderson was one of the very few commentators to call foul. It turned out that Anderson was right and Nancy Grace, Cash Michaels, and all the other bigshots were lying.
And Anderson could only get published on Rockwell.
So I am not willing to denounce every writer on Rockwell as equally bad as Rockwell himself.
| 323 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:28:32pm |
re: #310 Hengineer
Perhaps I'm also biased, but yes I read the BBC on a daily basis and have grown to understand that they very much represent the enemy, assuming one accepts the premise that the MSM is in general a den of iniquity.
| 324 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:28:34pm |
re: #318 horse
SOP; you always have a wingman protecting the lead aircraft.
/Yeah, you never know, there could have been a second Cessna hanging back, just waiting for the lead F-16.
| 325 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:28:37pm |
re: #317 gmsc
Oops. Sorry. Here's the correct link.
The elements!
Earth Fire Air and Water !
No brimstone?
//
| 326 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:28:48pm |
re: #290 jaunte
I'm reluctant to hypothesize but could it be that Lew Rockwell and the Paulians aren't interlopers in the Tea Party scene? Was this part of a coordinated effort between mainstream conservatives and the nuts from the beginning? Is this a bond from sharing a common cause?
There are quite a few signs that this might not be an accident.
| 327 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:29:06pm |
re: #319 landivar
Wow. How did you know that I have leftist buddies that I desire to please? Wow. You must be psychic.
/dumbass
Ever hear about the little boy who cried wolf?
| 328 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:29:37pm |
re: #325 Gus 802
The elements!
Earth Fire Air and Water !
No brimstone?
//
I think that's a mixture of fire and air.
//
| 329 |
landivar Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:29:38pm |
re: #305 OnTheRightSide
To this day, I have liberal friends saying that Sarah Palin is stupid for saying she can see Russia from her house! It doesn't matter she never said that, it is what most people think.
Any threats need to be isolated and smeared. Beck is next on the list.
Hear hear! We need to protect fellow conservatives from smears from the left. If we stand united we can defeat the left, if we don't we will lose.
| 330 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:29:39pm |
re: #324 Radicchio ad Absurdum
/Yeah, you never know, there could have been a second Cessna hanging back, just waiting for the lead F-16.
I think you'd have to orbit a Cessna with an F-16. Unless that was one very fast Cessna. ;)
| 331 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:29:52pm |
re: #323 Bagua
Perhaps I'm also biased, but yes I read the BBC on a daily basis and have grown to understand that they very much represent the enemy, assuming one accepts the premise that the MSM is in general a den of iniquity.
Considering a most of their sources are either Reuters or the AP, you're probably right.
| 332 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:29:55pm |
re: #309 Killgore Trout
Oh, ok, that does clear things up a bit! LOL!
| 333 |
Grim17 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:30:10pm |
Glenn Beck is a huge proponent of the April 15th Tea Parties, and I personally think he is a needed breath of fresh air.
He's not just some conservative talking head that spouts the same ol' stuff night in and night out. He attacks subjects from a human perspective, rather than a partisan political one. He is a strong believer in the constitution and opposes government sticking their nose into the private sector. Not to mention, he is a very outspoken critic of Obama's socialist agenda.
To hear some of you equate him to Olbermann, is, to say the least, disappointing.
Go Glen, Go...
| 334 |
horse Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:30:12pm |
| 335 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:30:26pm |
re: #325 Gus 802
The elements!
Earth Fire Air and Water !
No brimstone?
//
brimstone is not part of the earthly elements, it is an element only found in hell.
| 337 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:31:27pm |
re: #333 Grim17
Glenn Beck is a huge proponent of the April 15th Tea Parties, and I personally think he is a needed breath of fresh air.
He's not just some conservative talking head that spouts the same ol' stuff night in and night out. He attacks subjects from a human perspective, rather than a partisan political one. He is a strong believer in the constitution and opposes government sticking their nose into the private sector. Not to mention, he is a very outspoken critic of Obama's socialist agenda.
To hear some of you equate him to Olbermann, is, to say the least, disappointing.
Go Glen, Go...
I have to agree with at least the very last sentence. Olberman is really a tabloid talker. His "worst person of the week" countdown is one of the stupidest segments I've ever heard. It almost always was Bush during Bush's presidency, just because he hated him.
| 338 |
jamihabs Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:31:48pm |
re: #240 Dan G.
What part: Not true, Not funny, or just stupid.
| 339 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:31:49pm |
re: #335 Hengineer
brimstone is not part of the earthly elements, it is an element only found in hell.
Yes, but Satin walks the Earth and sometimes leaves traces of brimstone at his feet!
Bwahahahahahaha!
//
| 340 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:32:31pm |
re: #339 Gus 802
Yes, but Satin walks the Earth and sometimes leaves traces of brimstone at his feet!
Bwahahahahahaha!
//
Satin walks the earth? Maybe in your bedsheets?
| 341 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:32:50pm |
| 343 |
stevieray Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:33:16pm |
re: #333 Grim17
Olbermann is mean. He can barely hide his contempt for anyone who disagrees with him. I don't think Beck could be mean if he tried. Or, if he managed it, could maintain it.
| 344 |
jaunte Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:33:23pm |
re: #326 Killgore Trout
I haven't read the whole document, but those professors appear to be making the obvious point that the market has caught on to the fact that some mortgage backed securities are only as good as the intentions of some people to pay their debts, and are judging them accordingly; so government intervention to prop up the market is not going to help.
| 345 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:33:32pm |
re: #341 Gus 802
That was intentional. :)
I guess you can find "Satin" at your local Bed, Bath & Beyond.
Must be through the door into the "Beyond" section.
| 346 |
Noam Sayin' Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:33:34pm |
| 347 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:34:25pm |
re: #331 Hengineer
Yes, that is part of it, but the Al-Beeb is also a massive news industry in its own right, consider for a moment the behaviour of CNN, or MSNBC, or almost any of those during the recent US election, a strong case can be made for bias and agenda. Now in the BBC you have the same or worse, but, it is a massive organization funded by mandatory fees/taxes in the form of a TV license, without which one is fined.
Image if you were forced to fund MSNBC with their lot.
| 348 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:34:38pm |
re: #345 Hengineer
I guess you can find "Satin" at your local Bed, Bath & Beyond.
Must be through the door into the "Beyond" section.
Hmm. I never thought about that. Could it be that Bed, Bath and Beyond is run by a...
Satanic Cult!
//
| 349 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:34:46pm |
re: #322 Zimriel
The author seems like a lunatic: A Foundation for Panarchy
...the fact that he's writing on Lew Rockwell's blog pretty much confirms my suspicion.
| 350 |
NelsFree Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:34:48pm |
re: #329 landivar
Hear hear! We need to protect fellow conservatives from smears from the left. If we stand united we can defeat the left, if we don't we will lose.
Let's watch the movie...
[Link: www.howobamagotelected.com...]
| 351 |
Zimriel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:34:59pm |
re: #333 Grim17
Go Glen, Go...
Registered since: Aug 29, 2007 at 6:51 pm
(Logged in)
No. of comments posted: 3
No. of links posted: 0
That's got to be a sleeper RECORD.
It's like a bridge collapsed and all the trolls are standing in the sunlight, naked, blinking their wide pallid eyes.
| 352 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:35:02pm |
re: #345 Hengineer
I guess you can find "Satin" at your local Bed, Bath & Beyond.
Must be through the door into the "Beyond" section.
"I once saw a restaurant that advertised 'Breakfast served anytime', so I went in and ordered French toast during the Renaissance."
-Stephen Wright
| 353 |
Wishing Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:35:16pm |
re: #295 Dan G.
He's hyperbolic. If he cannot substantiate his fears with actual evidence, he has no business spreading them.
Give him a little break: people kept telling him about FEMA concentration camps, so he decided to get the facts. The facts are that there are no such things. One of the youtube videos really was a conc. camp, but the footage came from like China or somewhere, NOT the US! LOLOL
| 354 |
LGoPs Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:35:42pm |
re: #294 NelsFree
Thanks for that. I'd seen it but now it's saved to my favorites. I am appalled at the level of blinding stupidity that got this man elected.
| 355 |
horse Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:36:42pm |
re: #311 landivar
We do indeed need motivation, but what Beck does is probably closer to exploitation of emotions than motivation. Good leaders motivate through example, education, good communication, and never loose their cool. Demagogues motivate through over emoting and creating fear. Beck is unfortunately much closer to a demagogue.
| 356 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:36:59pm |
re: #344 jaunte
I stopped investigating after the Lew Rockwell link. I'm really trying hard to understand what's going on today and misinformation from nutjobs just makes things more difficult.
| 357 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:37:04pm |
re: #339 Gus 802
Yes, but Satin walks the Earth and sometimes leaves traces of brimstone at his feet!
Bwahahahahahaha!
//
Cousins charged with felony for vandalism at Holy Hill: "Hail Satin"
| 358 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:37:09pm |
re: #353 Wishing
Ok. That is not what is being parodied. It is his apocalyptic ravings. I'm not going to withhold criticism for his crying wolf just because he did something good in the past.
| 359 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:37:46pm |
re: #348 Gus 802
Hmm. I never thought about that. Could it be that Bed, Bath and Beyond is run by a...
Satinic Cult!
//
fixed
| 360 |
NelsFree Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:37:55pm |
re: #344 jaunte
I heard this evening that some banks that were forced to receive Bailout money tried to give it back, AND THE GOVERNMENT WON'T LET THEM.
| 362 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:38:35pm |
re: #353 Wishing
Give him a little break: people kept telling him about FEMA concentration camps, so he decided to get the facts. The facts are that there are no such things. One of the youtube videos really was a conc. camp, but the footage came from like China or somewhere, NOT the US! LOLOL
You know. What's interesting about the whole FEMA conspiracy thing is that we in fact have contingency plans for mass casualties. That includes "coffins" as well as coroners and mortitions on a list in case of such an event.
| 364 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:38:38pm |
re: #339 Gus 802
Yes, but Satin walks the Earth and sometimes leaves traces of brimstone at his feet!
Bwahahahahahaha!
//
Satin – whose hideous deeds are performed here on Earth for him by radical Muslins!
| 365 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:38:47pm |
re: #347 Bagua
Yes, that is part of it, but the Al-Beeb is also a massive news industry in its own right, consider for a moment the behaviour of CNN, or MSNBC, or almost any of those during the recent US election, a strong case can be made for bias and agenda. Now in the BBC you have the same or worse, but, it is a massive organization funded by mandatory fees/taxes in the form of a TV license, without which one is fined.
Image if you were forced to fund MSNBC with their lot.
I see what you mean, at least here you can "fund" what you want to hear or watch by voting with your channel/station changer.
| 366 |
NelsFree Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:39:01pm |
re: #352 gmsc
"I once saw a restaurant that advertised 'Breakfast served anytime', so I went in and ordered French toast during the Renaissance."
-Stephen Wright
How dare you recycle old jokes! Upding!
| 368 |
Fenway_Nation Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:39:05pm |
Felt compelled to downding not because I'm such a great fan of Glen Beck, but because Current is another one of Al Gore's pet projects since he felt that CNN and MSNBC weren't left-wing enough.
| 369 |
astronmr20 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:39:19pm |
Late to the thread.
I started listening to beck on the radio a few years ago and enjoyed it. he was okay on CNN... but Beck's element and medium where he shines the best is radio.
However, lately, he has gone completely off his rocker. Frankly, I'm catching hints of manic or bipolar disorder.
He's off his meds.. or he needs more. Beck has become a caricature of himself, unfortunately.
| 370 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:39:37pm |
re: #357 Radicchio ad Absurdum
Cousins charged with felony for vandalism at Holy Hill: "Hail Satin"
Yikes. That last Gorth family member even looks like he's missing some brain cells.
| 371 |
Wishing Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:39:52pm |
re: #362 Gus 802
You know. What's interesting about the whole FEMA conspiracy thing is that we in fact have contingency plans for mass casualties. That includes "coffins" as well as coroners and mortitions on a list in case of such an event.
Correct, but Glenn did us all a HUGE favor by de-bunking this Concentration camp nonsense.
| 372 |
Macker Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:39:53pm |
re: #345 Hengineer
I guess you can find "Satin" at your local Beds,
BathButts & Beyond.Must be through the door into the "Beyond" section.
There, fixed that for ya!
| 374 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:40:13pm |
re: #369 astronmr20
Late to the thread.
I started listening to beck on the radio a few years ago and enjoyed it. he was okay on CNN... but Beck's element and medium where he shines the best is radio.
However, lately, he has gone completely off his rocker. Frankly, I'm catching hints of manic or bipolar disorder.
He's off his meds.. or he needs more. Beck has become a caricature of himself, unfortunately.
Give him some credit, though. He's trying to motivate the conservative base.
| 376 |
jaunte Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:40:50pm |
re: #356 Killgore Trout
I stopped investigating after the Lew Rockwell link. I'm really trying hard to understand what's going on today and misinformation from nutjobs just makes things more difficult.
I would agree that Lew Rockwell is a nutjob, but the point they're making about some mortgage-based securities not being worth much (even if the government helps buy them) is true. Doing it will just postpone the problem.
| 377 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:41:06pm |
re: #370 Gus 802
Yikes. That last Gorth family member even looks like he's missing some brain cells.
LOL Asked why he committed the vandalism, Tyler Groth said in an interview: "I'm a punk. It's what I do."
| 378 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:41:07pm |
re: #372 Macker
There, fixed that for ya!
At least Butts are in the Beds. The Satinic Cult booth can be found in Aisle 14 in the Beyond section past the "Strings" of other dimensions.
| 379 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:41:12pm |
re: #160 jcm
Horse drawn planes?
Now I've heard of everything!
You can draw a Cessna with a team of horses. It's just getting it off the ground that's tricky.
| 380 |
Fenway_Nation Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:41:23pm |
re: #345 Hengineer
I guess you can find "Satin" at your local Bed, Bath & Beyond.
Must be through the door into the "Beyond" section.
Just ask Stan for directions.
| 381 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:41:38pm |
re: #365 Hengineer
Right, but in the UK one must pay a fee every year so that the BBC can push their multi-culti, pro-EU, pro-gay, pro-Palestinian agenda in countless clever ways.
| 382 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:41:41pm |
re: #371 Wishing
Correct, but Glenn did us all a HUGE favor by de-bunking this Concentration camp nonsense.
Cool beans. Yeah, the concentration camp bologna would probably be medical quarantine locations. Have to have a plan for those as well. A lot of this came with Homeland Security bills.
| 383 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:42:12pm |
re: #380 Fenway_Nation
Just ask Stan for directions.
It was Kyle who was "Everything and Nothing" at once. Tooth Fairy 2000 episode, I think.
| 384 |
Zimriel Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:42:19pm |
re: #349 Killgore Trout
The author seems like a lunatic: A Foundation for Panarchy
...the fact that he's writing on Lew Rockwell's blog pretty much confirms my suspicion.
That particular author doesn't write like a lunatic, but he is trying to fill a tub with a leaking bucket. I can't make head or tail of his article.
Not sure why Glenn is linking to him, either. (Bill Anderson was a far better writer.)
| 385 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:42:24pm |
re: #319 landivar
Um
In response to the guy who was questioning why everyone is hating in Beck now, it is because he is effectively combating the leftist talking points. That gets him the ire and vitriol of the left which then gets him the distain of the right who want their leftist buddies to like them.
what? The right want their leftist buddies to like them?
I don't mean any disrespect and as I've said before I've only watched Beck once, but I DON'T like the Socialist direction to which Obama and the Democrats are taking this country. I don't like some of the military cuts being proposed and announced by the administration; I don't like the way the administration is trying to take control of businesses in this country; (WTH do they mean they won't let financial institutions to pay back the TARP money?!?); I don't like the way Obama and the Democrats are raising taxes (even if some of the worst is just by letting the Bush tax cuts lapse) in a time of severe economic depression; I'm a lot less than overjoyed with Obama trying to take over the Census (but for that pesky law passed by Congress a long time ago);I don't like the way Obama and the Democrats RAMMED the Stimulus Bill through without giving the members of Congress time to read it, then Obama taking a 3 day weekend after Congress had approved it before he signed this "urgently needed" legislation and I really don't like the idea of Obama and the Dems submitting a budget that includes over One and a Half TRILLION Dollars in spending.
And while the Left may think all of the above or most of the above are OK, I don't give a damn if the Left likes me or not.
| 386 |
NelsFree Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:42:39pm |
re: #375 Dan G.
Sheet, that's funny!
There are sooooo many threads to follow in that one remark...
/
| 387 |
Grim17 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:42:55pm |
re: #351 Zimriel
Registered since: Aug 29, 2007 at 6:51 pm
(Logged in)No. of comments posted: 3
No. of links posted: 0That's got to be a sleeper RECORD.
It's like a bridge collapsed and all the trolls are standing in the sunlight, naked, blinking their wide pallid eyes.
A "sleeper", maybe... But a troll? You know where you can shove that one pal.
I read this blog faithfully every day, but only comment when I feel I need to, and tonight was one of those times.
To hear so called "Conservatives" attack one of their own, like pansy liberals do every waking moment, motivated me to speak out. So you can agree with my words, or disagree with them, but save your bullsh!t personal attacks for those more deserving.
| 388 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:42:59pm |
re: #176 Salem
Yeah, that was cute. Fox News- Fear and Unbalanced. I remember when Fox was pretty good. Maybe I remember wrong. Maybe I just was charmed by the idea of a news network that was outside of the DNC tank. I wish someone would start a Sane News Network, but I suppose there just isn't any money in it. The middle is always being overpowered by the left in the right just by virtue of not being loud and hysterical enough.
So what's needed is a loud, hysterical moderate.
Interesting concept. Has anyone ever done it?
| 389 |
Wishing Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:43:03pm |
re: #382 Gus 802
Cool beans. Yeah, the concentration camp bologna would probably be medical quarantine locations. Have to have a plan for those as well. A lot of this came with Homeland Security bills.
The editor of Popular Mechanics is the guy who worked with Beck to de-bunk them.
| 390 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:43:22pm |
re: #381 Bagua
Right, but in the UK one must pay a fee every year so that the BBC can push their multi-culti, pro-EU, pro-gay, pro-Palestinian agenda in countless clever ways.
Thats what I meant, I feel for the poor citizens of the UK, here I'm free to call my cable subscriber to cancel the fox/cnn/msnbc/cnbc/etc.... channel, remove it as part of my package.
| 391 |
LGoPs Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:43:53pm |
re: #351 Zimriel
Registered since: Aug 29, 2007 at 6:51 pm
(Logged in)No. of comments posted: 3
No. of links posted: 0That's got to be a sleeper RECORD.
It's like a bridge collapsed and all the trolls are standing in the sunlight, naked, blinking their wide pallid eyes.
I don't see what Grims stats have to do with what he said. And I kinda agree with him and I'm no troll. You can qoute my stats if you like......
| 392 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:44:23pm |
re: #388 SanFranciscoZionist
Sounds like the relentless search for extra-medium.
| 393 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:44:56pm |
re: #386 NelsFree
There are sooooo many threads to follow in that one remark...
/
Now now, you only reap what you sew.
| 394 |
Fenway_Nation Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:45:00pm |
re: #389 Wishing
The editor of Popular Mechanics is the guy who worked with Beck to de-bunk them.
Didn't he also de-bunk some of the 9/11 troofer conspiracy theories in an issue of Popular Mechanics?
| 395 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:45:05pm |
re: #389 Wishing
The editor of Popular Mechanics is the guy who worked with Beck to de-bunk them.
Saw that. If he keeps that up he might be able to improve his ratings. Call it a mix of ideas or even if he tries to take an anti-idiotarian angle.
| 397 |
Randall Gross Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:45:07pm |
re: #356 Killgore Trout
I stopped investigating after the Lew Rockwell link. I'm really trying hard to understand what's going on today and misinformation from nutjobs just makes things more difficult.
In this case it's not just a nutjob, it's a nutjob with a clear agenda.
| 398 |
NelsFree Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:45:13pm |
re: #385 realwest
Cogent Loquacity! A Fortuitous Juxtaposition indeed!
G'nite, Lizards.
| 399 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:45:22pm |
re: #394 Fenway_Nation
Didn't he also de-bunk some of the 9/11 troofer conspiracy theories in an issue of Popular Mechanics?
affirmative.
| 400 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:45:27pm |
re: #390 Hengineer
In the UK one is forced to pay an amount equivalent to the latest DISH offer, and DISH has many channels from which to choose, and one would find a wide spectrum of politics.
| 401 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:45:42pm |
re: #386 NelsFree
There are sooooo many threads to follow in that one remark...
/
Are you getting Khaki?
| 402 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:45:58pm |
re: #400 Bagua
In the UK one is forced to pay an amount equivalent to the latest DISH offer, and DISH has many channels from which to choose, and one would find a wide spectrum of politics.
You paint a very bleak picture.
| 404 |
Randall Gross Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:46:25pm |
There's nutjobs, and then there are the nutjob herders. It's the herders who are the problem.
| 405 |
astronmr20 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:46:43pm |
re: #374 Hengineer
Give him some credit, though. He's trying to motivate the conservative base.
I guess I'm not anti-beck, but he does at times take himself waaaay too seriously. He does seem to be motivating a lot of people, though.
BUt watching his 912 project videos I almost count take the crying. It's like he's coming down off a high.
| 406 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:47:16pm |
re: #195 Dan G.
Think spicy sourkrout. It is a Korean side dish. Cabbage, spicy pepper, fish oil, and some time fermenting... you'll love it or hate it.
There's a MASH episode where a suspected land mine is dug up and turns out to be a pot of kimchi that was put down to ferment.
Some people would say the effect on your intestines is about the same either way.
| 408 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:47:40pm |
re: #405 astronmr20
I guess I'm not anti-beck, but he does at times take himself waaaay too seriously. He does seem to be motivating a lot of people, though.
BUt watching his 912 project videos I almost count take the crying. It's like he's coming down off a high.
Maybe he's reaching to Evangelicals by mimicking a "Revival"?
| 409 |
astronmr20 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:48:11pm |
re: #406 SanFranciscoZionist
There's a MASH episode where a suspected land mine is dug up and turns out to be a pot of kimchi that was put down to ferment.
Some people would say the effect on your intestines is about the same either way.
I had a Korean girlfriend once who made kimchi. Built up quite an immunity to the stuff.
| 410 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:48:23pm |
re: #407 gmsc
Some of these puns are pretty Lamé.
Too many thimbles being tossed around as if they knew the thimblism.
| 411 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:48:51pm |
re: #406 SanFranciscoZionist
There's a MASH episode where a suspected land mine is dug up and turns out to be a pot of kimchi that was put down to ferment.
Some people would say the effect on your intestines is about the same either way.
"Don't you understand, Frank? You've struck coleslaw!"
-Hawkeye
| 412 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:48:52pm |
re: #409 astronmr20
I had a Korean girlfriend once who made kimchi. Built up quite an immunity to the stuff.
Isn't it good for the immune system, too?
| 413 |
astronmr20 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:48:54pm |
re: #408 Hengineer
Maybe he's reaching to Evangelicals by mimicking a "Revival"?
That's probably a good word for it.
| 414 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:48:55pm |
re: #402 Hengineer
You paint a very bleak picture.
As we chat about civil unrest, the spectre is much closer in the UK, with the BBC at the top of the list should the tumbles roll.
Consider that some 20% recently voted BNP in the midlands. That is a shocking development and represents more rage at the status quo than real support for the BNP.
| 415 |
jamihabs Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:49:05pm |
re: #342 Dan G.
Very well… This is not true. It is a cartoon, and a grotesque caricature of Glen Beck. I have only seen his show a few times, and I already know that I don’t agree with him all of the time, but he also, often, makes valid points, worth considering. Not always, but often enough.
| 416 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:49:09pm |
re: #406 SanFranciscoZionist
There's a MASH episode where a suspected land mine is dug up and turns out to be a pot of kimchi that was put down to ferment.
Some people would say the effect on your intestines is about the same either way.
I remember going to a Korean restaurant in SF. They had like these dried "aquarium fish" for snacks.
Chin-Lee!
| 417 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:49:12pm |
re: #410 Hengineer
Too many thimbles being tossed around as if they knew the thimblism.
Fabric pun threads make me want to bolt. Goodnight all.
| 419 |
horse Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:49:37pm |
re: #324 Radicchio ad Absurdum
/Yeah, you never know, there could have been a second Cessna hanging back, just waiting for the lead F-16.
You joke, and it is funny (I laughed), but the Cessna could have traveled over a predetermined remote location where others with some SAMs were waiting in ambush. We don't send our military out alone, half-assed and exposed. At least not yet...
| 420 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:49:40pm |
re: #417 Radicchio ad Absurdum
Fabric pun threads make me want to bolt. Goodnight all.
Try not and make this a pattern.
| 422 |
astronmr20 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:50:11pm |
re: #412 Hengineer
Isn't it good for the immune system, too?
Probably.. it's also noted for activating the "fire element" in the body in traditional chinese medicine (remember, Korea is a peninsula off of China).
| 425 |
Boxy_brown Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:50:48pm |
Glen Beck has the same haircut that my father made me get for the first 11 years of my life.
That pretty much concludes my thoughts on Glenn Beck.
'Nite.
| 426 |
OnTheRightSide Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:50:53pm |
re: #353 Wishing
The Popular Mechanics guy on his show said that the supposed camp in the youtube video is actually a place to repair trains, and the video was actually taken in 1995 by a crazy militia movement person, but re-cut and with new narration.
| 427 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:51:17pm |
re: #344 jaunte Well my friend you are partially correct - or the professors are.
As long as the CRA is on the books we are going to have a greater than usual percentage of home mortgages going into default.
But I know some of the ins and outs of this whole securitization situation and those folks who issued those bonds "secured by" a pool of mortgages, allowed for a 150% of the historical home mortgage default rate but without taking CRA into account. Thus government intervention (through the CRA, however well intentioned the CRA - at least under Carter - may have been), the government is indeed bailing water out of a leaking Titanic using tea cups to do so. And WE are all paying for it.
| 429 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:51:43pm |
re: #415 jamihabs
I don't detract from his moments of being correct. The video is clearly parodying his fear mongering. Of course its an exaggeration, that's what art does; but to pretend that what he's doing is ok just because he's done good things in the past is irresponsible.
| 430 |
Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:52:07pm |
re: #419 horse
You joke, and it is funny (I laughed), but the Cessna could have traveled over a predetermined remote location where others with some SAMs were waiting in ambush. We don't send our military out alone, half-assed and exposed. At least not yet...
/Damn Canadians probing our air defenses.
| 432 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:53:07pm |
re: #430 Radicchio ad Absurdum
/Damn Canadians probing our air defenses.
That's right
BLAME CANADA
It seems everything's gone wrong since Canada came along...
BLAME CANADA
/sings
| 433 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:53:24pm |
re: #430 Radicchio ad Absurdum
/Damn Canadians probing our air defenses.
Conspiracy! This was just a dry run!
//The Canadians are coming!
| 434 |
jaunte Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:53:28pm |
re: #427 realwest
Well between the two of us you're certainly the expert.
Do you have any thoughts about how to fix the situation?
| 435 |
Mary*Ann Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:53:53pm |
re: #313 yesandno
Can I sneak in here and say I like Beck?
He asks good questions, doesn't pretend to know all the answers, and sometimes, however, his pointing out of possibilities gets a bit fringe.
He warned of the economic disasters months before they finally occurred. He was the first person to interview Sarah Palin months before anyone had even heard of her. He does his homework. He reads. He is self made. And I don't think he is a wacky as he is portrayed. And I don't think he is a fake...I think he tells you the truth as how he sees it. You get to decide for yourself.
We are not all perfect....but he does raise the awareness of those who are going around uninformed by making them think. I like him personally, and he is funny. Perhaps he is being slighted by those who don't know when he is putting it on.
I'd like to second that!
| 436 |
abolitionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:54:04pm |
re: #263 NelsFree
Showing MY age, I believe the show was called, "Meeting of the Minds". I really liked Cleopatra...
Thanks, I could not recall it. (Liked Cleopatra, too.)
| 438 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:54:43pm |
re: #431 gmsc
Are you one of those piece-niks? Like John Linen?
Leave the good Linen out of this! He needs to be scrubbed clean from this debate!
| 439 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:54:57pm |
| 440 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:55:03pm |
re: #432 Hengineer
That's right
BLAME CANADA
It seems everything's gone wrong since Canada came along...
BLAME CANADA
/sings
| 441 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:55:14pm |
re: #409 astronmr20
I had a Korean girlfriend once who made kimchi. Built up quite an immunity to the stuff.
I shared a college apartment with a girl raised in Hawaii, who really needed to be exotic. Since us Californians could eat with chopsticks, she had to go for the heavy guns. Kimchi it was.
| 442 |
Wishing Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:55:30pm |
re: #394 Fenway_Nation
Didn't he also de-bunk some of the 9/11 troofer conspiracy theories in an issue of Popular Mechanics?
Exactly, and Beck is VERY much against the conspiracy theorists.
He is a family man, a man of faith and a good American. He isn't calling for a political movement as much as he is interested in seeing Americans get back to the Founding Fathers and their documents.
| 443 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:56:01pm |
| 444 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:56:12pm |
The second corollary to Stinky's Law:
The longer a thread runs, the more likely that sleepers and sock puppets will pop up.
| 445 |
LGoPs Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:56:39pm |
| 447 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:56:49pm |
re: #412 Hengineer
Isn't it good for the immune system, too?
I have an idea from somewhere that there's a lot of vitamin C in cabbage, but I'm not totally sure.
| 448 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:57:04pm |
re: #444 Charles
Is they're activity inversely proportional to the activity of the site's heavy weights?
| 450 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:57:33pm |
re: #446 gmsc
Why do think that? Are the jokes getting worsted?
Now don't you start trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
| 451 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:58:00pm |
| 452 |
Killian Bundy Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:58:11pm |
But hey, killing the F-22 frees up all that much more money for more important national defense priorities like community organizing and social welfare programs.
/R.I.P. Raptor, let’s all pray we never have to fight the Chinese or Russians during our lifetimes, because ACORN don’t fly
| 453 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:58:20pm |
re: #450 Gus 802
Well, its pin fun, but I needle to go to bed.
| 454 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:58:39pm |
re: #404 Thanos Good Lord Man - do you mean to say you want all those nut jobs out roaming our streets without herders?
:)
| 456 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:59:01pm |
re: #450 Gus 802
Now don't you start trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
Or you'll go off in a fit of piqué?
| 457 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:59:03pm |
re: #451 SanFranciscoZionist
Not the spiciness, the microflora. I thought you were referring to the fermentation, not the heat.
| 458 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 9:59:22pm |
re: #453 Dan G.
Well, its pin fun, but I needle to go to bed.
Sleep is good for the fabric of your soul.
/Or something.
| 460 |
LGoPs Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:00:13pm |
re: #458 Gus 802
Sleep is good for the fabric of your soul.
/Or something.
That's something I could cotton to......
| 461 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:00:26pm |
re: #458 Gus 802
Sleep is good for the fabric of your soul.
/Or something.
But sometimes it needs to be mended....
| 462 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:00:47pm |
re: #457 Dan G.
Not the spiciness, the microflora. I thought you were referring to the fermentation, not the heat.
Oh, no, just the spice factor.
PJ O'Rourke has a spectacular piece in "Holidays In Hell" where he describes a trip to Korea. Kimchi plays a leading roll, also tear gas.
| 463 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:01:24pm |
re: #461 Hengineer
But sometimes it needs to be mended....
...or your life can wind up in a real mesh.
| 465 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:01:39pm |
re: #414 Bagua "20% recently voted BNP in the midlands. " I know well enough who the damn BNP is, but please forgive my ignorance of English geography, but what are the "midlands"? Cities, industries, populations? Thank you.
| 469 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:02:12pm |
| 470 |
Silvergirl Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:02:55pm |
I've never heard Beck on the radio. I have seen his CNN and Fox shows about an equal number of times each, which equals a two-handed digit count at best. I got his Christmas Sweater book as a gift and read it one day soon after Christmas. I like him. I watched the videos of that show that were featured in a thread here at LGF where he was talking scary end times stuff and the Fox woman crawled under the table for dramatic and comedic effect. He can be over-the-top, but I can't see that he's doing a lot of harm to conservatives. He makes some good points and puts across some hard news and information along with the goofiness. I've seen his eyes tear up, but I haven't seen him actually crying like sobbing (has he?) and that happens to add to the quality I like best, which is his humanity, and the fact that he's a good one-on-one communicator even though he's really speaking to millions. I say there's a place for him at the table.
| 471 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:03:19pm |
re: #371 Wishing
Correct, but Glenn did us all a HUGE favor by de-bunking this Concentration camp nonsense.
Not really, I never gave the story a second look. It was complete and obvious bullshit at first glance. Debunking it was a waste of time.
| 472 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:03:21pm |
re: #463 gmsc
...or your life can wind up in a real mesh.
Confucius say that sometimes a rife cannot be ra Silk Road.
| 474 |
Sosigado Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:04:36pm |
I'm no longer much of a Beck fan, but I'm puzzled as to why someone posting here that they like him seems to automatically qualify them as a 'sleeper' or a 'sock puppet'.
| 475 |
LGoPs Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:04:38pm |
re: #452 Killian Bundy
But hey, killing the F-22 frees up all that much more money for more important national defense priorities like community organizing and social welfare programs.
/R.I.P. Raptor, let’s all pray we never have to fight the Chinese or Russians during our lifetimes, because ACORN don’t fly
We'll be throwing ACORNS at the enemy........
/
| 477 |
horse Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:05:10pm |
re: #361 Dan G.
Great classic clip, thanks for posting it. Reason as lead pilot, with emotion as his wingman :)
Based on the examples used, it would appear many in our society have reason tied up in the corner of their mind, while emotion is driving them to panic, obesity and irrelevance.
| 478 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:05:10pm |
| 479 |
Fenway_Nation Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:05:37pm |
re: #460 LGoPs
If these puns continue much longer, I'll just up and dye....
| 480 |
astronmr20 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:05:42pm |
re: #471 Killgore Trout
Not really, I never gave the story a second look. It was complete and obvious bullshit at first glance. Debunking it was a waste of time.
Do you REALLY think it's outlandish and impossible, though? Sure it was bullshit, but I wouldn't put anything past our government.
| 482 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:06:24pm |
re: #474 Sosigado
When several of the long registration time, low comment number posters use very similar phrases in their support... it stinks like 'sleeper' and/or 'sockpuppet' (hence the ? not a direct accusation, by me at least).
| 483 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:06:25pm |
re: #479 Fenway_Nation
If these puns continue much longer, I'll just up and dye....
That would put a serious tint on things.
| 485 |
LGoPs Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:06:53pm |
re: #479 Fenway_Nation
If these puns continue much longer, I'll just up and dye....
Sew. Do you think I care?
:)
| 486 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:07:04pm |
re: #376 jaunte
Possibly, it is a matter for debate which is why I read the article in the first place. However, any information posted on Lew Rockwell's blog but a nutcase isn't proof either way. Instapundit should not have linked to it.
I think I've decided to start smoking pot again. It would be good for me.
| 488 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:07:13pm |
re: #477 horse
Yes, and I think the segment where the guy is bugging out due to the constant shilling around him fit this thread to a "T".
| 489 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:07:19pm |
re: #319 landivar
Yeah, that's it.
//fucking eyeroll
| 490 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:07:26pm |
Good night all, thanks for the chatre: #465 realwest
Sorry, I meant in Leeds, re: #465 realwest
"20% recently voted BNP in the midlands. " I know well enough who the damn BNP is, but please forgive my ignorance of English geography, but what are the "midlands"? Cities, industries, populations? Thank you.
Sorry about that, I meant the recent election in Leeds which is West Yorkshire, not Midlands. (The chat moves a bit fast for my old brain)
| 491 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:07:27pm |
re: #480 astronmr20
Do you REALLY think it's outlandish and impossible, though? Sure it was bullshit, but I wouldn't put anything past our government.
Yes, it was totally outlandish, and totally impossible.
| 492 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:07:30pm |
re: #462 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, no, just the spice factor.
PJ O'Rourke has a spectacular piece in "Holidays In Hell" where he describes a trip to Korea. Kimchi plays a leading roll, also tear gas.
The one time I tried kimchi, I would say it made my eyes water.
This was served by a Korean woman, so it probably was authentic. But it smelled really rotten; really bad. I couldn't get much of it down.
| 493 |
Mad Mullah Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:07:33pm |
I've only watched a couple of Glenn Beck shows and I found it to be entertaining. I like over the top hyperbole, especially when it's directed towards people and groups that are deserving of it.
| 494 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:07:43pm |
re: #444 Charles Would the Third corollary to Stinky's Law be that the older and deader a thread is, the more likely that sleepers and sock puppets will pop up to ding down?
| 495 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:07:43pm |
| 497 |
kahall Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:07:56pm |
That is almost as annoying as watching the real GB. I don't really have anything against what he does but I just can't watch him. I might be repeating myself as I have always felt that way about him. I tried to watch when he was on CNN and just could not get into it and at Fox he has gotten even nuttier...too nutty. I mean more his mannerisms than anything. They just bug me. Kind of like Tommy Herr did every time he batted back in the 80's.
| 498 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:08:12pm |
re: #479 Fenway_Nation
Just get your steam up, and press on, permanently.
| 499 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:08:25pm |
re: #492 Kosh's Shadow
The one time I tried kimchi, I would say it made my eyes water.
This was served by a Korean woman, so it probably was authentic. But it smelled really rotten; really bad. I couldn't get much of it down.
What do you think "Fermented" means my friend? ;)
| 500 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:09:14pm |
re: #484 Hengineer
As long as you're still Riveted....
I think the end of the pun thread is looming, as we shuttle between different threads of puns.
Perhaps somehow they will all get woven back together.
| 501 |
Salem Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:09:29pm |
re: #319 landivar
In response to the guy who was questioning why everyone is hating in Beck now, it is because he is effectively combating the leftist talking points.
I think the left adores what he's doing for them.
| 502 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:09:42pm |
re: #494 realwest
That was my question, though I worded it a bit differently.
| 503 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:09:45pm |
| 504 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:09:59pm |
re: #500 Kosh's Shadow
I think the end of the pun thread is looming, as we shuttle between different threads of puns.
Perhaps somehow they will all get woven back together.
Tweed find a way!
| 505 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:10:23pm |
re: #499 Hengineer
What do you think "Fermented" means my friend? ;)
This smelled like it had fermented in a sewer. It might have been suggestion, having just seen the rat scene in one of the Indy Jones movies.
| 506 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:10:24pm |
re: #500 Kosh's Shadow
I think the end of the pun thread is looming, as we shuttle between different threads of puns.
Perhaps somehow they will all get woven back together.
Looming! Ya beat me to it.
| 507 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:10:29pm |
re: #268 Killgore Trout
This is what I'm talking about.....
Follow the link, scroll down......What's they're source for this "information"? LEW ROCKWELL! Why the fuck is Glenn Reynolds linking to shit from Lew Rockwell?
I'm getting ready to delete him from my bookmarks. I'm sure he's a nice guy, I don't think he's crazy. What's the deal?
Wow.
| 508 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:10:37pm |
Hey, Lew Rockwell's blog has a banner ad for a "Survival Seed bank so you can plant a one acre crisis garden." Maybe they aren't that bad after all.
/Tea Party
//Ron Paul
| 510 |
Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:10:59pm |
re: #441 SanFranciscoZionist
I had one of those roommates too! Except she didn't have any English, drank nothing but Tang, and ate Kimchee. We called her Tang. It wasn't nice, but we couldn't pronounce her name. She was a graduate Physics student, iirc....
| 511 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:11:52pm |
re: #452 Killian Bundy
I certainly agree with you that not buying more F-22's was a huge mistake (who needs Air Superiority in a war on in an international confrontation?!) but at least we do have or will soon have 187 of them operational.
And they are NOT cutting down on supplies, armaments and the like.
And while I surely wish they hadn't stopped buying them, 187 or so operational Raptors will give the US Air Superiority well into the future. Wonder why we're sticking with the F-35 JTSF though?
| 512 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:12:04pm |
I expect some nasty trolls to pop up overnight. Please remember to use the report button, folks. (The exclamation point.)
| 513 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:12:13pm |
re: #508 Killgore Trout
Hey, Lew Rockwell's blog has a banner ad for a "Survival Seed bank so you can plant a one acre crisis garden." Maybe they aren't that bad after all.
/Tea Party
//Ron Paul
They're always selling stuff. I'm sure it's right next to the "water purifiers" and the "nutritional supplements."
| 514 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:12:25pm |
re: #500 Kosh's Shadow
I think the end of the pun thread is looming, as we shuttle between different threads of puns.
Perhaps somehow they will all get woven back together.
That was Dazzling. Keep up the good work my friend, maybe we'll all mend our differences and patch together.
| 516 |
Summer Seale Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:12:48pm |
I know I'm one of the few people in this country who doesn't watch any TV at all, except for Nova and Frontline on PBS (yes, really, that's all I watch - and I don't watch any entertainment TV either). Naturally, I have seen Glenn Beck in the past on Youtube and generally on the internet when people pointed out something for me to watch in particular.
I used to be a totally avid TV watcher until several years ago when I realized something about all the talking heads on TV:
They're all really fucking noisy.
That's basically all they are. Most of them are pompous and self-centered beyond belief and almost none of them have anything interesting to say at any time whatsoever.
I also asked myself the important question which, I think everyone should ask themselves: What good do they do?
The answer is fairly obvious: nothing. Glenn Beck, Keith Olbermann, Bill O'Reilly, Jon Stewart - they're all pretty much assholes. I know Jon Stewart isn't technically a commentator, but he sure sounds like he thinks he is, and most of my age group thinks he's better at giving them "real news" than anyone else.
Frankly, I'm annoyed with all these people. They upset me because they upset the dignity of human dialogue. We are in a momentous time in the human condition not only because of a tremendously complicated war situation that we find ourselves in, but also because of the insanely rapid technological changes in modern society. Talking heads who spin voluminous amounts of noise with nothing to really add to the conversation are doing more harm than good.
I've gone off on these things before, but I felt the need to do it again. I've been on a roll lately.
| 518 |
astronmr20 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:13:02pm |
re: #512 Charles
I expect some nasty trolls to pop up overnight. Please remember to use the report button, folks. (The exclamation point.)
Gird your loins!
| 520 |
jamihabs Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:13:27pm |
re: #264 Zimriel
Hi Zimriel,
Its nice to know we have our own little “big brother” right here on LGF.
| 521 |
Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:13:36pm |
re: #512 Charles
Good luck with the packing & the move!
| 522 |
horse Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:14:42pm |
re: #430 Radicchio ad Absurdum
/Damn Canadians probing our air defenses.
Sorry to be a Buzz Killington, but considering the plane was stolen and our enemy's penchant toward using aircraft, following SOP to ensure we could protect lives is most reasonable.
| 523 |
Bagua Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:14:48pm |
re: #465 realwest
"20% recently voted BNP in the midlands. " I know well enough who the damn BNP is, but please forgive my ignorance of English geography, but what are the "midlands"? Cities, industries, populations? Thank you.
West Midlands – Worcester/Shrewbury/Birmingham, East Midlands – Nottingham, Leicester, Boston.
| 524 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:15:21pm |
re: #510 Floral Giraffe
I had one of those roommates too! Except she didn't have any English, drank nothing but Tang, and ate Kimchee. We called her Tang. It wasn't nice, but we couldn't pronounce her name. She was a graduate Physics student, iirc....
Mine was a native English speaker, haole type. Went to Punahou!
| 525 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:15:26pm |
re: #353 Wishing
Give him a little break: people kept telling him about FEMA concentration camps, so he decided to get the facts. The facts are that there are no such things. One of the youtube videos really was a conc. camp, but the footage came from like China or somewhere, NOT the US! LOLOL
Why would he even give such bullshit airtime?
| 526 |
Hengineer Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:15:29pm |
re: #517 Dan G.
Please don't quilt, weave just begun!
I guess, what's the leather like where you're at?
| 527 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:16:08pm |
re: #507 Charles
I thought about emailing him but decided not to. I sent him an email about a very questionable link he posted about the constitutionality of the bonus tax and he never wrote back, amended his post or explained to me why I was wrong. Maybe he didn't notice the Rockwell link, maybe he doesn't care, I don't know. I don't want to read too much into it but if you need to link to Lew Rockwell to prove your point it's a sign that you might be on the wrong track.
Both Instapundit and Hot Air ran the story about the bank stress testing being a conspiracy today too. Both fine blogs. I'm trying to make sense of it all.
| 528 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:16:58pm |
re: #502 Dan G.
Woops, sorry, I didn't even see your post as I was too busy typing mine, but it doesn't matter, Charles didn't answer either one of us!
| 529 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:17:21pm |
re: #526 Hengineer
The sky is sequined with rivulets of rain.
| 530 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:18:05pm |
re: #528 realwest
Well, we have two independent observations... that's the start of a new theory. ;)
| 531 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:18:43pm |
re: #527 Killgore Trout
...And when I googled the guy who was claiming "the bank stress tests were a conspiracy" thing I found that the story has been floating around the Ron Paul forums for quite a while.
| 532 |
lostlakehiker Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:18:54pm |
re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Really not trying to play the religious angle, but don't Mormons have some serious "end of days" planning, etc.? I have a Mormon cousin with years of food stuffs and weapons stored.
Mormon food stocking is not an end-of-days thing. It's a quotidian-world thing. Bumper crops come and go. Booms come and go. And recessions, depressions, crop failures, and famines come and go. Like Boy Scouts, Mormons make it their motto to be prepared.
| 533 |
Wishing Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:19:04pm |
re: #525 Slumbering Behemoth
Why would he even give such bullshit airtime?
I think because there are many people who are still caught up in, "I saw/read it on the internet!
Glenn trys to pull them back to reality. He is a very emotional guy and if he could dampen that down, he wouldn't drive so many of us nuts when he gets on a jag.
| 534 |
Salem Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:19:34pm |
re: #509 Dan G.
DING!
Yeah, Glenn Beck sucks. I cringe when I catch my dad watching him. I tell him some day the guy is going to 'splode and deal a setback to the cause he purports to champion. I get the impression that a lot of the people at Fox think he's an embarrassment but O'Reilly gives him cover. O'Reilly seems to be keeping Geraldo around there, too. If they had any sense they'd shit-can all three.
| 536 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:21:09pm |
re: #534 Salem
That triumvirate is why I stopped watching Fox.
| 538 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:21:19pm |
re: #533 Wishing
Glenn trys to pull them back to reality.
Glenn Beck is trying to pull people back to reality?
You're joking, right?
| 539 |
Summer Seale Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:21:30pm |
re: #527 Killgore Trout
I thought about emailing him but decided not to. I sent him an email about a very questionable link he posted about the constitutionality of the bonus tax and he never wrote back, amended his post or explained to me why I was wrong. Maybe he didn't notice the Rockwell link, maybe he doesn't care, I don't know. I don't want to read too much into it but if you need to link to Lew Rockwell to prove your point it's a sign that you might be on the wrong track.
Both Instapundit and Hot Air ran the story about the bank stress testing being a conspiracy today too. Both fine blogs. I'm trying to make sense of it all.
I really love Allahpundit, but I've stopped reading Hot Air a few weeks ago. I couldn't take it anymore.
Watching the comments section on any big Conservative blog at the moment is like watching this in slow motion:
| 546 |
Summer Seale Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:24:54pm |
| 547 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:25:37pm |
So I was at the corner store picking up some beer, and I noticed that they are selling a variety of lighters with Obama's image on it, with slogans like "Hope" or "Change" on them.
I thought to myself "I don't recall ever seeing any President's image on a lighter. What an odd kind of hero worship".
Now I am left wondering how well Glenn Beck lighters would sell.
Seriously, Beck is an MSM squawking head whose main interest is in ratings. Money. I just don't understand the need some folks have to knee-jerk to the defense of any MSM squawker who claims to be a conservative. Every little parody, every little (often justifiable) criticism, and knees start pounding the undersides of desks across the country.
What an odd kind of hero worship.
| 548 |
Wishing Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:25:53pm |
re: #538 Charles
Glenn Beck is trying to pull people back to reality?
You're joking, right?
He has been all over the 911 troofer crap and has also debunked, with facts, this FEMA camp stuff.
Job well done.
| 550 |
DistantThunder Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:27:12pm |
Glenn Beck has explained his approach to TV which is to make "talk" a visual medium, because lots of people hear talking heads as blah, blah, blah - so he tries to make it funny, and visceral. He's called himself a rodeo clown, a good analogy in that he's trying to doing something serious in an entertaining way.
Beck's emphasis is on personal responsibility for preparation for"Low possiblity, high consequence" scenarios as are actually wargamed by our government. I've heard him use the phrase "Low possibility, high consequence scenario" half a dozen times along with his guests - who also use the phrase. People will not make any type of preparations, even mental preparations - for a scenario they cannot envision.
Beck is trying to do two things simultaneously: wake people up to the fact that the government is overstepping it's constitutional boundaries, and pointing people to Values and Ethical ways of dealing with that encroachment.
The Centerpiece of his efforts are 12 values which are pro-social meaning they tend to make people more civilized, socially cohesive, and more responsible:
12 Values
Honesty
Reverence
Hope
Thrift
Humility
Charity
Sincerity
Moderation
Hard Work
Courage
Personal Responsibility
Gratitude
These values develop the strength of character necessary to take on aggressors of any type - in a constructive way. (Incidentally, the shooter in Pittsburg had ZERO of these values which is why his delusions destroyed him. Reports said he was actually self-mutilating by burning his hands over open flames indicating severe mental illness.)
Beck is about teaching people to set boundaries in what has become an unhealthy relationship between taxpayers and government. As in any abusive relationship, the abused is often accused of causing problems when they try to say "Enough." The Values make the difference between lashing out - and responsibly drawing a line and saying "Things must change." As and ethics and values educator, I see the wisdom in focusing on values in doing one of the most difficult processes a counselor ever faces - rebalancing toxic relationships.
| 551 |
stevieray Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:27:18pm |
re: #531 Killgore Trout
...And when I googled the guy who was claiming "the bank stress tests were a conspiracy" thing I found that the story has been floating around the Ron Paul forums for quite a while.
Sigh.
I've gotta ask... so?
Ron Paul would've been a lousy president, and he's certainly got a bunch of racial issues to work through... and that means he and his acolytes are 100% wrong 100% of the time? That would make them rare birds indeed -- complete, total illegitimacy, on every issue, at every time!
| 552 |
Summer Seale Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:27:43pm |
re: #549 Dan G.
Absolutely.
Thank you. I felt it necessary to share. =)
That's exactly what I think of when I watch the comments from some Conservatives right now. Plus throw in my earlier observations today about their penchant for "purity" of "Conservatism", and you get where I'm going with that at this point.
And, again, I'm not going to apologize for that analogy. I think right now it is well deserved and they have completely gone off the deep end.
| 553 |
Bob Dillon Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:27:49pm |
| 554 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:28:03pm |
re: #550 DistantThunder
"Personal Responsibility" He fails here IMHO.
| 555 |
axegrinder Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:28:17pm |
Beck seems a bit nuts but his brand of tv is selling right now. He's not a news program any more then the Daily Show is a news program. It's clearly entertainment and apparently he's doing a good job. I've seen his show and yeah, he's a bit over-the-top emotionally and a bit prone to silly conspiracy theories but overall he comes across as sincere and likable. Thus the good ratings. My mom loves him.
| 556 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:28:36pm |
re: #539 Summer
Heh. Good to know I'm not alone.
| 557 |
coquimbojoe Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:29:22pm |
I am not a big fan of Glenn Beck, but I have found him to try pretty hard at getting things right. He loves his worst case scenarios, but amazingly has been right a couple of times recently. His tears are a bit disturbing, but he is self effacing enough to make fun of them too. He is nowhere near as bad as Olberman, Beck at least tries for accuracy. Really, I don't listen all that often, as he is up against Rush here in Vegas, but he is not nearly as bad as some would make out. He seems to have a healthy dose of sel deprecation too.
| 558 |
Dustyvet Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:29:55pm |
re: #547 Slumbering Behemoth
So I was at the corner store picking up some beer, and I noticed that they are selling a variety of lighters with Obama's image on it, with slogans like "Hope" or "Change" on them.
I thought to myself "I don't recall ever seeing any President's image on a lighter. What an odd kind of hero worship".
Now I am left wondering how well Glenn Beck lighters would sell.
Seriously, Beck is an MSM squawking head whose main interest is in ratings. Money. I just don't understand the need some folks have to knee-jerk to the defense of any MSM squawker who claims to be a conservative. Every little parody, every little (often justifiable) criticism, and knees start pounding the undersides of desks across the country.
What an odd kind of hero worship.
My local 7-11 is selling coffee in Obama cups.
| 559 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:30:42pm |
re: #558 Dustyvet
My local 7-11 is selling coffee in Obama cups.
Glenn Beck lighters and coffee cups? That would be ironic.
| 560 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:30:54pm |
re: #552 Summer
For an interesting exercise, have a several of those puritans define "Conservatism".
| 561 |
Dan G. Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:32:27pm |
Good night all, try not to get too much troll muck on ya'.
| 562 |
axegrinder Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:32:30pm |
re: #550 DistantThunder
Some of those he stole from the Boy Scouts.
| 563 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:32:37pm |
re: #527 Killgore Trout
I can't agree more with your assessment of Lew Rockwell's site, but "Both Instapundit and Hot Air ran the story about the bank stress testing being a conspiracy today too. Both fine blogs. I'm trying to make sense of it all."
What the admininstration is trying to do is make the financial institutions that took TARP money and now want to pay it back, prove that they are in a sufficiently capitalized postion, with little exposure to toxic assets as possible. According to the Administration. And that would SEEM to be a reasonable position for them to take, but BB&T never asked for TARP money and did try to give it back and were told that they couldn't.
I wrote (no doubt futililey, to my congresscritters and Geithner (would have preferred writing to someone further down the food chain but there doesn't seem to be many people at Treasury right now) saying "Take the money back; the government needs it because it's budgeted for over a TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT and if the financial institutions who do give the money back, then get into serious trouble, have the FDIC take them over and chuck out the President, CEO and most of the Board of Directors - but for God's sake, TAKE THE DAMN MONEY!
Sent the same e-mail to BB&T as well.
I think Hot Air and Instapundit see this refusal as a way for the Federal government to keep their foot on the necks of those who took the TARP money. And as conspiracy theories go, that's not a bad one.
| 564 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:32:56pm |
re: #560 Dan G.
For an interesting exercise, have a several of those puritans define "Conservatism".
Why conservatism is about stopping homosexuals, Darwinism, and Atheism!
///Norwegian (@HA) parody.
| 565 |
SpaceJesus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:33:29pm |
haha if sarah palin farted into a balloon and put a whig on it.. hahahaha
| 566 |
Salem Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:33:30pm |
re: #536 Dan G.
That triumvirate is why I stopped watching Fox.
Hannity too, but he's almost better than Beck and certainly than Hairaldo.
| 567 |
Summer Seale Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:33:36pm |
re: #560 Dan G.
For an interesting exercise, have a several of those puritans define "Conservatism".
Hehe yea I've done that a few times.
Hopeless, really.
I used to comment on Hot Air, but then I realized that I was watching them eating their young for not looking exactly like them, so I declined to go there after a while.
Honestly, I have no idea how Allahpundit does it. They rip him to shreds in almost every thread for being an Atheist. My guess is either that he doesn't care what they say, or that he really has the thickest skin imaginable.
| 568 |
gmsc Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:34:58pm |
I'm not feeling well, so I'm going to have to turn in early.
Tell littleoldlady I won't be able to make fruitcup tonight.
Good night, all!
| 569 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:35:19pm |
re: #568 gmsc
I'm not feeling well, so I'm going to have to turn in early.
Tell littleoldlady I won't be able to make fruitcup tonight.
Good night, all!
Later man.
| 570 |
Killian Bundy Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:35:34pm |
Obama official: Ocean wind could replace coal
Windmills off the East Coast could generate enough electricity to replace most, if not all, the coal-fired power plants in the United States, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said Monday.
But those numbers were challenged as "overly optimistic" by a coal industry group, which noted that half the nation's electricity currently comes from coal-fired power plants.
The secretary spoke at a public hearing in Atlantic City on how the nation's offshore areas can be tapped to meet America's energy needs.
"The idea that wind energy has the potential to replace most of our coal-burning power today is a very real possibility," he said. "It is not technology that is pie-in-the sky; it is here and now."
Let's see, coal provide over half of our electricity and wind provides what, a couple percent?
/have they told Teddy & clan about these ginormous offshore wind farms?
| 572 |
OnTheRightSide Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:37:14pm |
re: #547 Slumbering Behemoth
It's not knee-jerk defense or hero worship. Just a difference of opinion on Beck, not a big deal.
| 574 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:38:03pm |
re: #553 Bobibutu
Hey Bobibutu - the F-35 isn't any kind of alternative to the Raptor. It's not designed to be an air superiority fighter AND it's being built by committee!
| 576 |
TheMatrix31 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:39:03pm |
re: #570 Killian Bundy
Obama official: Ocean wind could replace coal
Let's see, coal provide over half of our electricity and wind provides what, a couple percent?
/have they told Teddy & clan about these ginormous offshore wind farms?
Ocean Wind? Seriously? I don't know anything about that stuff but that just sounds fuckin' ridiculous.
| 577 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:39:22pm |
re: #539 Summer
I really love Allahpundit, but I've stopped reading Hot Air a few weeks ago. I couldn't take it anymore.
Watching the comments section on any big Conservative blog at the moment is like watching this in slow motion:
[Video]
Seriously though. Hot Air is a good site just to look for some obscure news. Reading the comments is a waste of time. Ironically the comments get both extremes of the political spectrum which hits the low points of the bell curve. Allahpundit and Ed Morrisey do a good job on their own.
| 578 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:39:54pm |
re: #563 realwest
The refusal is about the stress tests which I think wind up at the end of this month. The results are supposed to be secret so there won't be a run on the weak banks. Conspiracy theorists love anything that supposed to be a secret. Also I think there's a PR war going on between the bank executives and the White House. I think it's bad policy to run with every insider expose because the bankers have their agenda too and it doesn't always involve the best interest of their companies or the nation.
| 579 |
Fenway_Nation Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:40:16pm |
| 580 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:41:09pm |
re: #558 Dustyvet
My local 7-11 is selling coffee in Obama cups.
I asked the guy behind the counter about the lighters, and he said they were selling well. Hell, if I was a retailer I would stock what sells, though I do find it a bit depressing that such goofy products are good sellers.
Like it or not, FNC is part of the MSM, and the MSM are retailers. Beck is a packaged product up for sale, and it seems to be selling well.
I find the fact that this goofy product is a big seller a bit depressing as well.
Oh well, junk is targeted to the masses, and that which is focused to the lowest common denominator always sells well.
| 582 |
stevieray Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:43:36pm |
re: #575 realwest
PASS!
Too optimistic! The correct answer is FAIL! As in, "My internet security suite (Zone Alarm Security Suite) sucks!"
(It just started another unscheduled deep scan and froze my desktop. I had to fire up the laptop to get back into LGF.)
| 583 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:44:49pm |
re: #572 OnTheRightSide
I was not speaking of you specifically, I haven't read your posts on this thread. But one needs only take cursory glance at some right wing websites to see folks who carry on like this any time their favorite squawking head is criticized.
It's fucking pathetic.
| 584 |
Christopher Luebcke Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:44:57pm |
re: #577 Gus 802
Anybody remember Allahpundit's actual AllahPundit blog? It was painfully insightful and insanely funny all at the same time. I was sorry when he shut it down. But the death threats would get old after a while.
| 585 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:45:24pm |
re: #580 Slumbering Behemoth
Good points. That's like a local store where I live. The owner is Republican and voted for McCain and can't stand Obama. Yet, he doesn't pull Obama image products and there are quite a few. You can't make those decisions since sometimes they're decided by your supplier.
| 586 |
Dustyvet Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:45:28pm |
re: #574 realwest
Hey Bobibutu - the F-35 isn't any kind of alternative to the Raptor. It's not designed to be an air superiority fighter AND it's being built by committee!
I'll show you a committee building an aircraft...:)
| 587 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:46:13pm |
re: #584 Christopher Luebcke
Anybody remember Allahpundit's actual AllahPundit blog? It was painfully insightful and insanely funny all at the same time. I was sorry when he shut it down. But the death threats would get old after a while.
I don't remember that blog. Death threats?
| 588 |
rawmuse Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:46:21pm |
Of all the news talk personalities, Beck is the one of which I know the least.
Don't listen to his radio show much, and don't have cable.
Let me know if it is still OK to dig Dennis Miller.
| 589 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:47:08pm |
re: #588 rawmuse
Of all the news talk personalities, Beck is the one of which I know the least.
Don't listen to his radio show much, and don't have cable.Let me know if it is still OK to dig Dennis Miller.
Dennis Miller? Now we're talking. :) Upding!
| 590 |
Christopher Luebcke Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:47:29pm |
re: #586 Dustyvet
I'll show you a committee building an aircraft...:)
[Link: englishrussia.com...]
Does that thing have a balcony?
| 591 |
DistantThunder Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:48:31pm |
re: #562 axegrinder
Some of those he stole from the Boy Scouts.
Some of them are from the Character Counts program that the boy scouts adopted. I was part of the first class of Character Counts students in 1990. It was myself - a young mom with 3 toddler interested in ethics - and 29 executives from major corporations - one was the Boy Scouts - CBS came and filmed our class - and Dan Rather did the piece on the news. My table mate was Jane Hull - Speaker of the House in Arizona. We talked about kids and she said I had a future in politics.
| 592 |
stevieray Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:48:35pm |
re: #584 Christopher Luebcke
Anybody remember Allahpundit's actual AllahPundit blog? It was painfully insightful and insanely funny all at the same time. I was sorry when he shut it down. But the death threats would get old after a while.
That was before my time. What was it called? AllahPundit?
| 593 |
Fenway_Nation Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:48:48pm |
re: #558 Dustyvet
My local 7-11 is selling coffee in Obama cups.
Somebody find me a 7-11 that's selling 0bama doormats or urinal cakes.
| 594 |
Salem Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:49:48pm |
re: #588 rawmuse
Of all the news talk personalities, Beck is the one of which I know the least.
Don't listen to his radio show much, and don't have cable.Let me know if it is still OK to dig Dennis Miller.
Miller makes fun of Beck every chance he gets. So I assume he's in the pink. I can take Miller or leave him. Never been really dazzled with his brand of humor.
| 595 |
Dustyvet Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:50:37pm |
| 596 |
Bob Dillon Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:51:15pm |
re: #586 Dustyvet
I'll show you a committee building an aircraft...:)
[Link: englishrussia.com...]
Agreed ... what are the alternatives?
The Rap is the big dog ... congress is marching towards getting warriors killed.
| 597 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:52:12pm |
So, when do we get to hear a comment about Glenn Beck from Michael Steele? And, afterwards, when do we get to hear Michael Steel apologize to Glenn Beck.
//
| 598 |
abolitionist Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:52:56pm |
re: #582 stevieray
Too optimistic! The correct answer is FAIL! As in, "My internet security suite (Zone Alarm Security Suite) sucks!"
(It just started another unscheduled deep scan and froze my desktop. I had to fire up the laptop to get back into LGF.)
Might have better luck running a scan after a shutdown/restart cycle. (Max unfragmented memory available.) You might also try one or two on-demand scanners, such as Stinger (no install required), ClamAV, or Malwarebytes.
| 599 |
rawmuse Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:54:11pm |
re: #594 Salem
For humor, check out "Mr. Warmth" the Don Rickles project.
I thought would die...
| 600 |
Christopher Luebcke Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:55:01pm |
re: #592 stevieray
That was before my time. What was it called? AllahPundit?
Start at the beginning. Last good one in Mar 07, 2005. My recollection is that he posted something about burning out on the schtick, and the death threats weren't helping, but I could be wrong. But read a few entries, and you won't be surprised that, at the height of head-chopperdom, he got some colorful emails.
| 601 |
Bob Dillon Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:55:22pm |
| 602 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:55:41pm |
re: #578 Killgore Trout
"I think there's a PR war going on between the bank executives and the White House. I think it's bad policy to run with every insider expose because the bankers have their agenda too and it doesn't always involve the best interest of their companies or the nation."
Oh, listen I agree with that, that's why I added that if a bank gave back TARP money (forget the stress test) and it didn't have enough capitalization or did have too many toxic "assets" then chuck out the President, CEO and most of the Board. After that stupid prick Andrew Cuomo put out the names of the AIG officials and busses of "pitchfork and torches" folks ran around those officials houses,* the idea of the government releasing the names of those folks who gave back TARP money only to see the financial institution fail should prevent any circumventing by diversionary means, the (NOW) power of the Feds.
*(fortunately for all concerned, those appear to have been ACORN organized and the pitchforks and torches got thrown under the busses (they have, after all, learned from the master) before they left to go after the AIG Officials, though some bricks and stones were chucked.).
| 603 |
axegrinder Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:56:02pm |
re: #588 rawmuse
I love Miller. He's a funny guy and I also appreciate his attitude. Sometimes I miss his pop culture references and have to go look something up to figure out what the hell he's talking about.
| 604 |
Silvergirl Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:56:26pm |
re: #593 Fenway_Nation
Somebody find me a 7-11 that's selling 0bama doormats or urinal cakes.
Just don't try to buy an Obama Chia at Walgreen's. Plenty of George Bush toilet brushes to go around though.
I left a link about it on the front page.
| 606 |
Dustyvet Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:57:45pm |
re: #601 Bobibutu
[Link: www.daltonlp.com...]
But you already know that.
Shhhhhhhh...I'm looking for the balcony...:)
| 607 |
Salem Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:57:49pm |
re: #599 rawmuse
For humor, check out "Mr. Warmth" the Don Rickles project.
I thought would die...
Rickles I can appreciate. He's just about the last of that old Hollywood/Vegas lounge inner circle.
| 608 |
Pietr Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:57:54pm |
re: #592 stevieray
That was before my time. What was it called? AllahPundit?
IIRC, it was called "Allah is in the House".....I think it's mentioned in the bio you get if you click on Allahpundit at the site.....
| 609 |
stevieray Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:58:00pm |
re: #598 abolitionist
That's what it is supposed to do. I have it scheduled to run at 4:00 a.m. Sunday night/Monday morning. Lately, however, it has decided to randomly begin deep av/as scans whenever it feels like it.
Fortunately, my year-long license runs out in a week or two. I can't wait to get rid of it.
| 610 |
Silvergirl Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:58:00pm |
re: #603 axegrinder
I love Miller. He's a funny guy and I also appreciate his attitude. Sometimes I miss his pop culture references and have to go look something up to figure out what the hell he's talking about.
Another Miller fan here. I listen to him when I can catch him in the mornings.
| 611 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:58:24pm |
re: #585 Gus 802
It's capitalism, baby! If vapid teenie bopper mags sell, then that's what gets put on the rack. I may not like it, I may criticize it, I may find it depressing that it sells so well, but if I were a smart retailer I would stock it.
It's the same thing FNC and every other MSM outlet is doing. Promoting the product that sells best by appealing to the lowest common denominator.
Once squawkers like Beck, Maher, Oprah, etc., ad infinitum cease to sell, they will be dropped like nuclear potatoes and replaced with the next big seller.
| 612 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 10:59:34pm |
re: #582 stevieray
Hey my friend, why don't you just re-boot and unistall
Zone Alarm Security Suite? I have Norton Internet Security and so far it's worked extraordinarilly well! You could install that, do a full system scan and see what's going on - maybe the uninstall will solve your problems!
| 613 |
Dustyvet Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:00:02pm |
| 614 |
Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:01:35pm |
re: #545 Macker
Took me a while to find the post!
Here you are. Previous thread....
614 Charles
4/06/09 7:45:57 pm reply quote 3downupfavoritereport
To get serious for a minute or two, this week is going to be a little sporadic at LGF, because I'm preparing to move to a new lair, beneath an airport that shall remain nameless.
It's an analog thing, yo.
| 615 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:01:40pm |
re: #583 Slumbering Behemoth Huh, you mean some right wing sites are now acting the way Kos, Huffpoo and DU have been acting for YEARS (NOT that that makes them right - just more understandable). You got any of those Right Wing Sites in mind?
| 616 |
axegrinder Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:02:17pm |
re: #591 DistantThunder
All good qualities to have. I haven't really thought about them in quite sometime but it's good to revisit and notice I need some work on several of them. I still try to Be Prepared. It's a battle between what needs doing and what I want to do. Story of my life.
| 617 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:03:58pm |
re: #594 Salem I think I'd enjoy Miller more if he'd slow down his delivery a little!
| 618 |
kynna Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:04:15pm |
I've seen Glenn Beck glad-hand lefties to promote his book so I've never paid much attention to him. He seems like an entertainer to me, working his niche. Whatever. I don't watch TV or listen to much radio. Occasionally Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin if I can.
Does anyone remember when Charles Grodin had a show on MSNBC (I think)? He used to loooooove Bill Clinton and hate the Republicans so much. I watched in fascination while he fell asleep on air one night. Now that was entertainment.
Charles -- the first words of this thread are obvious incitement. Uh oh, indeed. ;D
| 619 |
rawmuse Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:04:46pm |
Mark Steyn filled in for Rush today, and was highly enjoyable.
| 620 |
Bob Dillon Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:04:46pm |
re: #602 realwest
Until the dildo's in congress get it that the backbone of the American economy is the small business person and not Wall Street we are screwed.
| 621 |
Gus Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:05:06pm |
re: #611 Slumbering Behemoth
It's capitalism, baby! If vapid teenie bopper mags sell, then that's what gets put on the rack. I may not like it, I may criticize it, I may find it depressing that it sells so well, but if I were a smart retailer I would stock it.
It's the same thing FNC and every other MSM outlet is doing. Promoting the product that sells best by appealing to the lowest common denominator.
Once squawkers like Beck, Maher, Oprah, etc., ad infinitum cease to sell, they will be dropped like nuclear potatoes and replaced with the next big seller.
Yep. It's a matter of staying power for the proprietor. If you start drawing the line with stock you might as well start drawing the line with the ideology of your clients or customers. That doesn't work in the real world even though the internet nuts would have you think otherwise. Close to that it would be similar to me trying to judge the political leanings of my clients or their associates.
Beck and Maher will sooner disappear before Oprah. She might have more staying power in the end since she's a little more neutral. Even though she does support Obama but that's to be expected.
| 622 |
Salem Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:05:13pm |
Just watching Easyrider, where Jack Nicholson is explaining alien intelligence to Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper while smoking a J around the campfire. Great movie.
| 623 |
Dustyvet Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:05:20pm |
I can has Al Gore?
| 624 |
Ziggy Standard Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:06:40pm |
Very funny cartoon. They got the insincerity, the quivering lip and the push-button emotional flips just right.
| 625 |
freetoken Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:07:26pm |
re: #570 Killian Bundy
Posted in the overnight thread a day or so ago, with the link to the Interior Department report on the subject, as well as the notice of Sec. Salazar's public meetings on this (and other) topics. They are also, I believe, taking electronic comments.
| 626 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:07:44pm |
re: #615 realwest
Sorry Realwest, I should have been more specific. What I meant to say, and should have said, is "take a cursory glance at some of the comments on right wing websites..."
My bad, I should have been more clear.
| 627 |
DistantThunder Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:07:48pm |
re: #616 axegrinder
All good qualities to have. I haven't really thought about them in quite sometime but it's good to revisit and notice I need some work on several of them. I still try to Be Prepared. It's a battle between what needs doing and what I want to do. Story of my life.
SteveCovey, one of my husband's teacher is college, designed a matrix of Urgent/Non-urgent and Important/Not important. It's desirable to focus on the area of Non-urgent/important whereas most people focus on Urgent/non-important.
| 628 |
dapperdave Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:07:49pm |
Glen Beck gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "melt down"
| 629 |
realwest Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:08:30pm |
Well y'all I gotta go get some sleep.
Charles, there are two birthdays coming up, mine's on the 11th and I'd surely appreciate it if LGF was up and running at least on that day.
The 13th would be an excellent day for LGF to be up and running too - just saying!
Anway, good night all, hope you have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Good night, all.
| 631 |
kynna Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:09:01pm |
re: #619 rawmuse
Mark Steyn filled in for Rush today, and was highly enjoyable.
He's excellent on air. Always a pleasure to listen to.
| 632 |
stevieray Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:09:06pm |
re: #612 realwest
Hey my friend, why don't you just re-boot and unistall
Zone Alarm Security Suite? I have Norton Internet Security and so far it's worked extraordinarilly well! You could install that, do a full system scan and see what's going on - maybe the uninstall will solve your problems!
Good advice, Real.
I'm gonna dump Zone Alarm right now. Why suffer with it for two more weeks? I'll have to get a new suite soon enough... why not now?
Be back in a while...
| 634 |
Pietr Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:09:26pm |
Looks like we have an 'upthread' to move to------------->
See ya there.....
| 635 |
axegrinder Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:09:32pm |
re: #618 kynna
Yeah, I remember Grodin. Horrible actor. Worse comedian. He wore so much make-up on his show he looked ridiculous. Don't miss him.
| 636 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:13:48pm |
re: #615 realwest
And thanks for poking me, and thus giving me the opportunity to clarify my point. I should have made it clearer to begin with, but I didn't. I screwed the pooch there.
| 637 |
NY Nana Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:14:02pm |
re: #623 Dustyvet
I can has Al Gore?
Yipes! Now I can has nightmares!
/He could cause Gorebal warming.
G'night, all. Sweet dreams.
| 638 |
Guanxi88 Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:14:35pm |
re: #114 Mich-again
Saw that film back in the college days at some art theater. Never did get to see the TH live but had most all their CD's.
Excellent - another Lizard with taste.
| 639 |
axegrinder Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:15:41pm |
re: #627 DistantThunder
SteveCovey, one of my husband's teacher is college, designed a matrix of Urgent/Non-urgent and Important/Not important. It's desirable to focus on the area of Non-urgent/important whereas most people focus on Urgent/non-important.
Absolutely. It's about setting goals, re-evaluating and changing methods to achieve those goals. Prioritizing can be challenging. What I think is important is not often agreed to by others in my realm of influence. Since keeping them happy is right up there in the top 2; I end up wasting some time. All in the name of love. And peace and harmony.
| 641 |
sngnsgt Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:19:43pm |
re: #603 axegrinder
I love Miller. He's a funny guy and I also appreciate his attitude. Sometimes I miss his pop culture references and have to go look something up to figure out what the hell he's talking about.
Dennis Miller is great, how the hell did he ever get that gig with all of those moonbats on SNL?
| 643 |
axegrinder Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:20:36pm |
re: #641 sngnsgt
Dennis Miller is great, how the hell did he ever get that gig with all of those moonbats on SNL?
He used to be liberal back in the day.
| 644 |
green_earth Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:10:22am |
Alright, I've read a little into this thread (about the top 20%), and have to leave my comment and sign out for the night.
I confess, I'm a Beck radio show fan going back at least five years. I used to laugh my ass off driving down the road. He was really funny most of the time around three to five years ago. I listened for the sheer entertainment value, and did get into his more serious side from time to time. I mostly found I agreed with him.
But lately, I don't know where in world he's taking his fame. I find his attempts to force us to "talk" with our neighbors off-putting. To what end, really? Its all becoming strange, and uncomfortable. I find myself wanting him to stop with all the crying and supposed serious reflection/introspection business and make me laugh. But, alas, I can't get over how uncomfortable I feel even when he tries... to make me laugh...
He has reached way out of his league, and I don't think he's prepared to handle the continued ratings and attention. He's become, for lack of a better word, a cook.
Just give me moron trivia and make me forget the end of the world once and while Glenn... sheesh!
| 645 |
green_earth Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:14:11am |
Darn, forgot how to spell kook!
Sorry folks, there's no meaning in my post of Glenn becoming a cook.
Wonder what he'll whip up for us on his show tomorrow?
| 647 |
freetoken Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:26:57am |
re: #646 davecatbone
Fascinating to see how far Obama's forces will go in his fight to dominate America. All the Liberal Trolls posting here are making LGF a joke.
We have liberal trolls here?
Beck is going down the well worn path of fringe-ness... the major method is usually to paint the standard or dominant societal authorities as somehow evil.
Beck's March 9th radio show gathered some attention when he started to develop connections between Evolution and Eugenics (and last year he pushed Stein's movie.)
| 648 |
Sheepdogess Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:29:15am |
Every time I hear Glenn Beck, I pray that he's a lunatic.
| 649 |
freetoken Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:34:29am |
Here is Beck interviewing Stein:
| 650 |
freetoken Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:38:03am |
Having not paid much attention to Beck, I've spent some time looking over videos of him (and transcripts) since this thread started...
My conclusion - Charles has been too kind to this guy.
| 652 |
Emerald Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:40:58am |
This is so funny because it is true! Beck is the cable equivalent of the World Weekly News.
| 653 |
forrest Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:05:39am |
Beck used to seem nuttier to me than he does now. His low probability/high consequences event segments are kinda apocalyptic - and sometimes ridiculous. Although he's right on the money when he goes on about his preference for poverty over choosing to vote his rights and responsibilities away for the illusion of financial security.
The "get rid of $16,000 in debt" ad that scrolled during this video has some irony to it. I pictured smart-ass 20-somethings with $30-$100k in debt who voted for the State to take care of them sitting there laughing at Glenn Beck. Whatever dudes.
| 654 |
Fritz_Katz Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:11:11am |
re: #28 MandyManners
Come Unto Me, All Ye That Labor and are Heavy Laden, and I Will Give You Rest. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.
I didn't find it funny in the least. I suppose my sense of humor is not the same as Charles'. The Christian bashing in the video really bothered me a lot. I deliberately don't tune into "Current" -- the Al-Gore, google owned, uber-lib, channel for that very reason. I might see something hateful or mocking of my world-view. I get all of that on other channels without seeking it out.
| 655 |
Ziggy Standard Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:15:12am |
re: #649 freetoken
Here is Beck interviewing Stein:
Stein just blathering his usual nonsense there - of interest though was the admission that he thought Glenn Beck was a parody of a conservative when he first watched him...lol
| 656 |
Freods Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:22:26am |
This is funny stuff. Like all parody it is built on a small bit of truth. Too bad about the cheap Palin reference. Some people just cant help themselves I guess. Still I give it an 8, good beat but cant dance to it.
| 657 |
bosforus Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:27:49am |
re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Really not trying to play the religious angle, but don't Mormons have some serious "end of days" planning, etc.? I have a Mormon cousin with years of food stuffs and weapons stored.
Well, yes, but they've been doing it for the past century and a half so it's not like it's some new thing for them.
| 658 |
XENONIAN Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:56:11am |
Hey Charles
while I think most of the parody is a wee bit funny
like some others I could have done without the Christian bashing.
also - love him o rhate him - Glenn Beck has a following
he is laughing all the way to the bank.....
| 659 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:02:37am |
re: #657 bosforus
Well, yes, but they've been doing it for the past century and a half so it's not like it's some new thing for them.
Actually, if nothing else they are pragmatic. When they started out as a cult there was no knowledge of galaxies, let alone planets about other stars. Now many of them accept that and believe that those planets are where they go when they die, and the more children they have the bigger a piece of a planet they will get. Kind of like welfare from God.
Apologies in advance if anyone is offended, but I know some do believe that.
| 660 |
coquimbojoe Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:17:38am |
re: #659 Naso Tang
Naso, that is tiresome how dumb that is. If you are gonna comment, know what you are talking about.
| 662 |
Ziggy Standard Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:27:02am |
re: #659 Naso Tang
Actually, if nothing else they are pragmatic. When they started out as a cult there was no knowledge of galaxies, let alone planets about other stars. Now many of them accept that and believe that those planets are where they go when they die, and the more children they have the bigger a piece of a planet they will get. Kind of like welfare from God.
Apologies in advance if anyone is offended, but I know some do believe that.
Here's part of Matt and Trey's (South Park creators) commentary on their excellent 'Mormons' episode.
| 663 |
Land Shark Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:33:42am |
I've always liked Glenn Beck but he has been over the top for a while. I agree with him the country is facing a very uncertain future, but some of this apocalypse talk from his latest radio and TV shows is crazy. That's why I haven't heard his radio show or seen him on TV lately. Get a grip, Glenn.
The video isn't particularly funny, though. A little too much gratuitous Christian bashing for my taste.
| 664 |
docremulac Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:38:18am |
I assume this video was made by somebody who believes in the Republican caused global warming Apocalypse. If that's the case you could make a very few changes in this video and post if as a send up of liberal Apocalypse hysteria.
Wish I had time. I'd just post Al Gore's face on Glen Becks, badly punch in the changed dialog where needed and re-post it.
I actually though the in-inadvertently funniest part was when the liberal who made this referred to "Ivy league professors who studied politics and know things" in Beck's sarcastic screed.
That kind of exposed where these guys are coming from. Why do we need to listen to the oracles of wisdom teaching our universities? Because they "Studied politics and know things".
That should be printed at the top of their resumes and on their business cards. It should be how they're introduced in interviews. Maybe uniforms with "Studied politics and knows things" on the hat?
| 665 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:54:52am |
re: #660 coquimbojoe
Naso, that is tiresome how dumb that is. If you are gonna comment, know what you are talking about.
I agree it's dumb, but it's also true. Would you be more offended if it was in a cartoon?
| 666 |
Ziggy Standard Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:04:59am |
re: #665 Naso Tang
I agree it's dumb, but it's also true. Would you be more offended if it was in a cartoon?
A cartoon of blasphemy? ;-)
| 667 |
S'latch Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:08:04am |
O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast!
| 668 |
Bonk Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:16:56am |
OK, now someone do the same thing for the Daily Show! Eight years of BDS needs to be commemorated, after all!
| 669 |
caution Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:24:27am |
Nice find! I rarely comment, but man that's funny. Did you see the crawl where it said "Most religions agree Chris Dodd is going to hell." ? Ha ha ha.
What's a real shame though is that parody (like the Onion, Daily Show, etc) often pales in comparison to the real news. Laugh until you cry. Cry until you laugh. It's a mess.
| 671 |
Colonel Panik Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:03:55am |
re: #644 green_earth
He has reached way out of his league, and I don't think he's prepared to handle the continued ratings and attention. He's become, for lack of a better word, a cook.
Cookin' for the Apocalypse with Glenn Beck!
3 easy post-nuclear meals for survivalists on a budget!
How to make MRE's tasty and appealing for your bomb shelter buddies!
Mike Huckabee's delicious rodent recipes and small game smorgasbord!
| 672 |
Colonel Panik Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:05:09am |
re: #619 rawmuse
Mark Steyn filled in for Rush today, and was highly enjoyable.
Steyn needs his own radio show. He rules.
| 673 |
The Monster Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:22:33am |
re: #137 Charles
Dick Cheney bowed for King Abdullah too
If you think that lowering your head so someone can hang a medal around your neck is the same thing as bowing at the waist so that your upper body is horizontal, then I don't know what to say.
Why is it so important for you to establish some kind of moral equivalence that excuses Obama's behavior? This is like the argument that because Republicans under the Bush administration ran up the debt, that no Republican can object to Obama and his Democrat majorities in Congress running up a far greater amount of debt.
It's the sort of argument we hear from the Left all the time:
1. Even though Britain and the US led the fight to end black slavery, since they didn't do it sooner, they're exactly the same as those other countries that hung onto it (some of which do to this day).2. Even though the DoD put in a program to "uparmor" Humvees, since they didn't do it sooner, they are evil. No matter how soon it was done, it could never be soon enough by this argument.
3. Since FEMA didn't instantly teleport all of the NOLA residents (whose local government failed to bus out of town for Katrina) and give them all ponies, George Bush hates black people.
It's BS when they do it, and it's BS when one of ours does it, too.
Don't misunderstand me here. I think there is a good argument to be made that under the Bush and Clinton administrations, we were unnecessarily deferential to the Saudis. But that doesn't excuse the Obama administration for turning the amp up to eleven. Those other administrations are in the past tense, and we cannot change what they did. We need to persuade the current and future administrations yet unelected that this policy must end.
| 674 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:31:15am |
re: #673 The Monster
I'm finished arguing this point. If you want to believe there's something really, truly, especially horrible about Barack Obama's bow to Abdullah, knock yourself out.
| 675 |
CLLRusso Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:50:52am |
re: #663 Land Shark
I've always liked Glenn Beck but he has been over the top for a while. I agree with him the country is facing a very uncertain future, but some of this apocalypse talk from his latest radio and TV shows is crazy. That's why I haven't heard his radio show or seen him on TV lately. Get a grip, Glenn.
The video isn't particularly funny, though. A little too much gratuitous Christian bashing for my taste.
Exactly.
| 676 |
wordsworth Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:58:45am |
So I guess LGF is trying to go in a different direction?
I get that being an ideologue is bad news no matter what the ideology, but I also see a different standard of thinking coming to play, where everything Obama does has to be compared to Bush, and people like Glen Beck are painted as alarmists as part of the same character assassination campaign that put Rush, and that CNBC guy on their hit list. Half of what Glen Beck does is meant to be satirical, and self referential, but John Stewart and this animation company don't seem to get that when they mock, what is clearly meant to be self deprecation.
The truth is, many of us feel that grain of truth and see our worst paranoia about Obama coming true in a much shorter time frame then we imagined possible. I'm glad someone is vocalizing that, not to mention keeping tabs on the stories the media neglects. At it's best, this blog serves that very same purpose for me, with the same appeal. Just sayin'.
| 677 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:02:15am |
re: #663 Land Shark
The video isn't particularly funny, though. A little too much gratuitous Christian bashing for my taste.
"Gratuitous Christian bashing?" Because it makes fun of apocalyptic "end times" fundamentalists?
Maybe you aren't aware of it, but the majority of Christians in this world do NOT believe the Antichrist is alive and the end times are upon us.
| 678 |
Fritz_Katz Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:03:48am |
re: #675 CLLRusso
The video isn't particularly funny, though. A little too much gratuitous Christian bashing for my taste.Exactly.
what about the gratuitous Palin bashing.
| 679 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:05:37am |
re: #676 wordsworth
Half of what Glen Beck does is meant to be satirical, and self referential, but John Stewart and this animation company don't seem to get that when they mock, what is clearly meant to be self deprecation.
You are just whining. The only part of Glenn Beck that is self referential is the bit about being an alcoholic, which he has to mention ad nauseam.
You should actually watch the show sometime, if only to give yourself a thicker skin.
| 680 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:06:33am |
| 681 |
essayons7 Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:11:24am |
I like Beck; he comes off as sincere, which puts him at the top of my list.
I don't necessarily agree with much of the gloom and doom on his show, and it can be particularly depressing to watch at times, but at least he speaks his mind.
You know when someone is striking a nerve when the MSM and Stewart target that person/show; prime example is Rush.
I do have to wonder what is being said by posting this video here. Is it the assumption that Beck is a fool because of his gloomy outlook, or simply because he follows a religious creed that others don't necessarily follow?
I only ask this because I was under the impression that this forum was supposed to be conservative in nature. If that is the case, then why promote those who are trashing the conservative voices in the media? There are plenty of others who are more than willing to do this.
Beck, at least in my opinion, puts forth an argument based on the constitution and his own personal religious beliefs and is brave enough to admit it. I'll back him up 100% for doing that.
If my assumption as to the character of this blog is incorrect, please point this out to me.
| 682 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:16:54am |
Glenn Beck is a follower of Ron Paul. He's interviewed Paul with vast praise several times.
He had a series of shows on the End Times. And continually predicts armed insurrection in the US. And he's a creationist, in favor of teaching it in schools.
And he cries on air.
This is the new hope for conservatives? Count me out.
| 683 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:20:14am |
re: #681 essayons7
Beck, at least in my opinion, puts forth an argument based on the constitution and his own personal religious beliefs and is brave enough to admit it. I'll back him up 100% for doing that.If my assumption as to the character of this blog is incorrect, please point this out to me.
One could point out that what you seem to say is that you will back anything as long as it sounds sincere, and brave (the latter presumably means that the speaker knows it sounds nutty).
Does that answer your question?
| 684 |
freetoken Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:26:44am |
re: #682 Charles
Surprised you didn't jump on Beck's attempt to link evolution to eugenics.
| 685 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:29:54am |
re: #684 freetoken
Surprised you didn't jump on Beck's attempt to link evolution to eugenics.
I didn't know about that one, but it's not surprising -- that's what creationists do.
| 686 |
Fritz_Katz Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:30:18am |
re: #680 Naso Tang
Who?/
You obviously missed watching the stupid video. Lucky you. However, I'll quote the relevant passage to you so you can enjoy the scatological humor with the rest of us...
Jesus Christ says: "Glen, you are like, if Sarah Palin farted into a balloon, and then, you put a wig on it, that would be you."
| 687 |
Ziggy Standard Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:36:03am |
re: #681 essayons7
I like Beck; he comes off as sincere, which puts him at the top of my list.
I don't think I've seen anyone put on a more obviously and embarrassingly insincere act as Beck's.
| 688 |
Ziggy Standard Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:38:37am |
re: #686 Fritz_Katz
Jesus Christ says: "Glen, you are like, if Sarah Palin farted into a balloon, and then, you put a wig on it, that would be you."
Heh. A Palin joke, a Glenn Beck joke and a fart joke rolled into one. Genius!
| 689 |
Ziggy Standard Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:41:26am |
re: #682 Charles
He seems out of place - like he really belongs not in real life, but in a satirical media sequence from one of the Robocop films.
| 690 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:44:57am |
re: #686 Fritz_Katz
You obviously missed watching the stupid video. Lucky you. However, I'll quote the relevant passage to you so you can enjoy the scatological humor with the rest of us...
I saw it, of course. My little attempt a humor was along the lines that I didn't think Palin was very prominent anymore, but feel free not to laugh.
Also, try not to worship so many sacred cows.
| 691 |
freetoken Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:45:35am |
Beck is a gift that keeps on giving... That he has had so many hours broadcast it becomes relatively easy to find plenty of clips with which to indict him as either a nut job or just a run of the mill hater.
I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today.
That said in Oct 2007 during the outbreak of fires here in Southern California. Living here at the time and dealing with the whole mess, I find Beck's comments to be downright asinine.
Charles - I repeat, you are too easy on Beck.
| 692 |
Voidseeker Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:57:23am |
Wow. Quite the eye opener video there. Not because of the content of the video, but the content of the comment section.
It is beyond amusing to see a site that was ridiculed and maligned for its stance on the R.o.P. and its followers, its defense of the Nation of Israel, and for its predictions about the future turn around and do the same to others.
I have listened to Glenn Beck for about 6 years, and have read this site for I do not even know how long. With that being said, I am very disappointed in LGF and its followers.
Those uncomfortable with a male showing emotion and base their opinions off their emotion reaction to it fail to see the irony of doing so. Those that believe Glenn is SEEKING the "end times" or that he believes "we are all going to die" or that he is "doing this for ratings" are uninformed at best or idiots/lairs at worst.
Glenn Beck has been talking about the loss of liberties, loss of rights, lack of responsibility in government, upcoming economic problems, etc for years. When the stock market looked like it was going to 15K he was telling people it would be 7500. People called him crazy then and his ratings were going DOWN. Yet now that his predictions from years ago are now our reality and people are tuning in to one of the few people that had the common sense and foresight he is "taking advantage" of peoples dire outlooks on the future?
But that position become even more amusing due to the fact that Glenn is actually becoming more positive about the future and the possibilities for the USA to recover while the general populace is on the emotional down turn. He believes strongly that Americans will do what needs to be done to fix the problems & will survive the upcoming depression.
I guess I will now be called "crazy" for looking more than 2 weeks into the future to see where we are headed and what is going to come our way. A Great Depression is certain. There is only a few things that can be done to avoid it at this point, none of which will be done by D.C. as it would reduce their power.
Regardless of what people feel about Glenn, I know he is one of the few people in the "press/media" that are actually aware of what is coming, because he has actually studied history and where we have been. People are ignorant by design of where & when things started to go bad, how bad previous Presidents have been, and how understanding of the Constitution has been perverted and obfuscated.
I will still defend Charles from slander and misrepresentation by uninformed people, people that do no research & make snap judgments based on only a fraction of a persons work. It is just sad people here act the same way towards others. I expected better; guess I was wrong to do so.
| 693 |
freetoken Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:59:47am |
re: #692 Voidseeker
So then I take it you agree with Beck that the thousands of people around me who lost their houses in the large wildfires hated America?
| 694 |
TacomaJoe Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:13:39am |
re: #685 Charles
I didn't know about that one, but it's not surprising -- that's what creationists do.
It seems stupid to paint with such a large clumsy brush.
| 695 |
Voidseeker Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:15:10am |
Glenn Beck is a follower of Ron Paul. He's interviewed Paul with vast praise several times.He had a series of shows on the End Times. And continually predicts armed insurrection in the US. And he's a creationist, in favor of teaching it in schools.
And he cries on air.
This is the new hope for conservatives? Count me out.
Wrong. He is NOT a follower. Ron Paul has been warning about certain economic consequences, and was giving speeches about them in Congress during the bubble. Glenn has had Ron Paul on to talk about the things that Glenn believes him to right about, but has also told him that his followers seem to nuts and some of his positions are wrong.
Because a host has someone on his show he is a follower now? Where is the logic in that?
Other points:
* He does not "predicts armed insurrection in the US." He warns AGAINST doing so, tells people constantly NOT to do so, and is actively trying to give people that feel disenfranchised ways to overcome that feeling with actions that do not involve revolution. Glenn Beck understands that divided as we are, lacking common principals and goals, if armed 'revolution' starts it will end very badly for the nation.
Talking about a subject now means that you advocate and predict its outcome?
* He is a creationist. He does believe that the universe was created by a God. Is he a Short Earther? No. I think though that this is your main issue with him and colors your judgment. It appears that anyone that believes in Creation is a nut job in your eyes. Just the feeling I have gotten from this site recently.
I guess I am a nut job because I believe in Creation, even though at the same time believe in the science of and history of evolution. One started things, the other happened over time.
I get the impression that you have not listened to Glenn Beck on the radio for any amount of time, and only know of him from the Fox show he hosts. If that is the case I would suggest actually becoming more informed about the man and his work before passing judgment - much the same as I tell other people about you and LGF.
| 696 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:17:21am |
re: #694 TacomaJoe
It seems stupid to paint with such a large clumsy brush.
After several hundred comments at LGF from creationists who relentlessly try to tie evolutionary theory to Nazi Germany, it seems like a very specific brush, backed up with lots and lots of evidence.
| 697 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:18:40am |
re: #695 Voidseeker
Wrong. He is NOT a follower. Ron Paul has been warning about certain economic consequences, and was giving speeches about them in Congress during the bubble. Glenn has had Ron Paul on to talk about the things that Glenn believes him to right about, but has also told him that his followers seem to nuts and some of his positions are wrong.
Oh please.
| 698 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:19:37am |
All you have to do is search YouTube for "glenn beck ron paul" and you can find dozens of similar clips. Yes, he's a follower of Ron Paul, and a flat-out kook.
| 699 |
wordsworth Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:25:15am |
re: #679 Naso Tang
You are just whining. The only part of Glenn Beck that is self referential is the bit about being an alcoholic, which he has to mention ad nauseam.
You should actually watch the show sometime, if only to give yourself a thicker skin.
If you can't spot his attempts at humor it's you who clearly hasn't watched the show. Here's a hint, if he's smirking or poking fun at himself and his own dramatics, he's trying to be funny.
p.s. Expressing an opinion isn't whining.
Charles can slag Beck all he wants, it's his blog, and I can skip through those posts just like I do the vaccination, and Evolution topics, while still appreciating the rest of his content. I'm not even defending Beck (the Ron Paul thing is worthy of criticism) but c'mon, I expect better than Daily Show clips, and this was only a step better.
| 700 |
TacomaJoe Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:26:10am |
re: #696 Charles
After several hundred comments at LGF from creationists who relentlessly try to tie evolutionary theory to Nazi Germany, it seems like a very specific brush, backed up with lots and lots of evidence.
Anecdotal evidence from the "several hundred comments at LGF from creationists" does not serve to substantiate your sweeping generalizations.
I am a creationist. I do not believe creationism has a place in the science classroom. It should be taught in Sunday School to those who choose to go to Church.
And while I do not "relentlessly" try to tie evolutionary theory to Nazi Germany, it is silly not to recognize some of the philosophical underpinnings of Nazism. So what if Hitler embraced Darwin? If Hitler thought 2+2=4 does that mean no one should think 2+2=4?
Some people are able to distinguish between their Faith and the reasoned and verified results of rational scientific theories based on observable evidence.
The irrational hatred of Christians (and creationists) on this site has decreased the value I once placed in coming and reading the excellent discourse and posts. Moreover, and more to the point, fighting irrational generalizations (linking evolutionary theories and any subscribers to Nazis) with generalizations ("that's what creationists do") is fighting stupid with stupid. I don't mind when this site brings attention to the insanity of wanting to inject Biblical scripture into public school science lessons... but it could be done with more class, more thinking and less vitriol.
| 701 |
Voidseeker Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:29:30am |
re: #693 freetoken
So then I take it you agree with Beck that the thousands of people around me who lost their houses in the large wildfires hated America?
No, because that is not what Glenn Beck said, although your twisting of the statement and selection of Media Matters as a source tell me all I need to know about the motives and level of understanding behind your question. Full quote (from media matters):
"Let's talk about health care and education? That's not the way to win. That's not the way to win on any front. I'm not even talking about -- the least I care about is winning the election. How about winning the war? How about saving our country? And, you know, it made me think. I want to make this very clear. When I say on the air, and I've said it a lot lately, that we need to come together and we need to get back into the center, we're being pushed on to the edges -- I want you to understand, that is not on policies. I don't mean that we come in the center on policies. We come to the center on principles. We come back to the center of the melting pot, that we're all one America, that just because I disagree with you doesn't mean you hate America, and I love America. We all love America. We just disagree on how we should function, what we should do, big government, small government. It doesn't mean you hate America. I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today.
There are a few people that hate America. But I don't think the Democrats are those. I think there are those posing as Democrats that are like that. But you don't come into the center. You have to stand up for what you believe in."
If you do not believe that there were people in So Cal that hate the USA it is your choice to live in denial. But stating that some people that hate America are losing their homes in a fire does not equal saying everyone losing their home in those fires hates America. The former is a comment about the location of people, and as a result of their location and the events there, the loss of their residences. Your twisted version would be a statement that quantifies all people caught up in a tragedy as having the same emotional stance on the country in which they own a residence.
If you are not able to understand the difference I cannot help you.
| 702 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:29:49am |
re: #700 TacomaJoe
Anecdotal evidence from the "several hundred comments at LGF from creationists" does not serve to substantiate your sweeping generalizations.
Ben Stein made a whole movie promoting this view. Take a look at any creationist website and you will find them promoting this view.
You may not like it being pointed out, but it's a simple fact that this bogus argument is absolutely everywhere among creationists.
The irrational hatred of Christians (and creationists) on this site has decreased the value I once placed in coming and reading the excellent discourse and posts. Moreover, and more to the point, fighting irrational generalizations (linking evolutionary theories and any subscribers to Nazis) with generalizations ("that's what creationists do") is fighting stupid with stupid. I don't mind when this site brings attention to the insanity of wanting to inject Biblical scripture into public school science lessons... but it could be done with more class, more thinking and less vitriol.
Creationists do not equal Christians. The vast majority of Christians in this world are NOT creationists.
And your claim that there's an "irrational hatred" of Christians at LGF is just silly, and false.
| 703 |
TacomaJoe Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:37:46am |
re: #702 Charles
And your claim that there's an "irrational hatred" of Christians at LGF is just silly, and false.
Right. If you say so.
Sweeping generalizations are the hallmark of intellectual thought and sound argument.
Keep up the good crusade against the creationists, all of whom, according to you, think evolution and Nazism are inextricably intertwined.
| 704 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:41:30am |
re: #703 TacomaJoe
You mean "sweeping generalizations" such as:
The irrational hatred of Christians (and creationists) on this site...
That kind of "sweeping generalizations?"
| 705 |
TacomaJoe Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:42:15am |
re: #702 Charles
Creationists do not equal Christians. The vast majority of Christians in this world are NOT creationists.
So your hatred extends to Christian Creationists as distinct from those who think the Bible is fantasy, but profess to be Christians anyhow?
| 706 |
Voidseeker Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:42:22am |
re: #698 Charles
All you have to do is search YouTube for "glenn beck ron paul" and you can find dozens of similar clips. Yes, he's a follower of Ron Paul, and a flat-out kook.
Yup. Right. Just like you are "Racist Muslim Hater". Seriously you hate all Muslims. Do a google search for it.
Sorry Charles, but you are wrong about Glenn, just as the people that hate you are wrong. Glenn Beck is NOT a follower of Ron Paul. He has come to believe that Ron Paul is right about certain things, and he has come to that belief from his own research. But that does not make him a follower.
Glenn never had a rEVOLution sign, never backed him for president - although he did interview him as he did with just about every candidate he could find that was running for POTUS, including the tiny parties almost no one knows about. Is he a follower of Prohibition because he had the Prohibition Party candidate on his show?
| 707 |
TacomaJoe Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:47:41am |
re: #704 Charles
You mean "sweeping generalizations" such as:
That kind of "sweeping generalizations?"
That's not a sweeping generalization. That's an observation. Notice, I didn't attach a numerical value to the instances I've observed irrational hatred towards Christians here. It could have been once or twice. It could be a dozen.
But in regards to a generalization - this would have been a generalization:
"Ranting against Christians, that's what LGF readers do."
That statement is inherently false and stupid.
If you had qualified your original generalization, it would have merit. Instead of noting your false generalization, you choose to attack without thinking... kind of like the crusading creationists you spend so much of your time ranting against.
| 708 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:49:21am |
re: #706 Voidseeker
He's "not a follower of Ron Paul," yet he's had Ron Paul on his show dozens of times, and agrees with his most extreme opinions. Gotcha.
What would it take for you to call him a "follower of Ron Paul?"
| 709 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:52:02am |
re: #707 TacomaJoe
Go ahead and deny it, but the vast majority of creationists (the ones who make movies and post at creationist websites like Answers in Genesis and the Discovery Institute's blogs) do indeed promote the view that evolutionary theory led directly to Nazi Germany. This is something we call a "fact."
| 710 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:54:05am |
Educate yourself:
[Link: www.google.com...]
| 711 |
TacomaJoe Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:57:31am |
re: #682 Charles
And continually predicts armed insurrection in the US.
You see, this is not a generalization, but it is false.
I am not a fan of Beck, finding much of his discourse childish and unchallenging. However, he is on in the mornings as I make my way to work so I tune him in from time to time. Especially in recent weeks as the buzz surrounding his show has increased.
The few times I've listened recently, he's spoken out against armed revolution - stating that such a reaction to the current tyranny would produce nothing good.
In addition to steering clear of generalizations, good arguments also are generally rooted in truth and lack hyperbole.
| 712 |
J.S. Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:03:20pm |
re: #698 Charles
Even when Glenn Beck was on CNN, Beck was featuring Ron Paul on his programs. And I recall, even at that time, that Beck was giving Ron Paul (not just air time) but positive, encouraging praise.
| 713 |
TacomaJoe Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:03:21pm |
re: #709 Charles
Go ahead and deny it, but the vast majority of creationists (the ones who make movies and post at creationist websites like Answers in Genesis and the Discovery Institute's blogs) do indeed promote the view that evolutionary theory led directly to Nazi Germany. This is something we call a "fact."
So you've retreated from "this is something [all] creationists do" to "the vast majority of creationists...do indeed promote the view that evolutionary theory led directly to Nazi Germany."
The qualifications you've attached may make your statement a fact. I am not a pollster of creationists, so I'll take your word for it since you seem very familiar with creationist movies and websites.
But, unquestionably, your original generalization was false.
And there are many on this site who consistently defame Christians and Christian creationists with broad intellectually dishonest generalizations. That, also, is something we call a "fact."
Good luck with your crusade.
| 714 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:06:15pm |
re: #713 TacomaJoe
When you have to insert words into my posts to "prove" your silly points, you lose.
| 715 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:08:50pm |
re: #712 J.S.
Even when Glenn Beck was on CNN, Beck was featuring Ron Paul on his programs. And I recall, even at that time, that Beck was giving Ron Paul (not just air time) but positive, encouraging praise.
Absolutely right. And now, despite everything we learned about Ron Paul in the last election, we actually have people at LGF who are defending Beck for promoting Ron Paul.
It's sad.
| 716 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:24:26pm |
re: #699 wordsworth
If you can't spot his attempts at humor it's you who clearly hasn't watched the show. Here's a hint, if he's smirking or poking fun at himself and his own dramatics, he's trying to be funny.
He's trying to be folksie. Sometimes he gets lucky and is funny but, hey, he's just an entertainer; right?
p.s. Expressing an opinion isn't whining.
Only if one sounds like one is whining while doing so.
Charles can slag Beck all he wants, it's his blog, and I can skip through those posts just like I do the vaccination, and Evolution topics, while still appreciating the rest of his content.
That makes you sound like you don't understand what evolution is and that you don't understand what the science of medicine is, nor do you want to know. Do you expect respect for that?
I'm not even defending Beck (the Ron Paul thing is worthy of criticism) but c'mon, I expect better than Daily Show clips, and this was only a step better.
Post some good ones for us.
| 717 |
S'latch Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:58:36pm |
Charles, I must say, I had not realized what a kook Glenn Beck has become before I followed your posts today. I hadn't paid much, if any, attention to Glenn Beck for a year or more. I must admit, he has become rather kooky and it isn't appealing. It is a shame . . . and a very bad omen. The end is clearly nigh.
| 718 |
Mauser Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:02:16pm |
re: #39 FightingBack
Normal adult males don't usually tear up a few times per hour.
Oh yeah? Repeat after me and see if this doesn't make you cry.
"President Barack Obama"
Works on me every time.
---
Had to dig way back for this, but it needed to be said.
| 720 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:47:03pm |
If you had apologized for putting words in my mouth and distorting my meaning, your account might still be active. Instead you just got even more insulting, so I bid you adieu.
| 721 |
Dreader1962 Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:57:08pm |
I know this is an old thread, but based upon the cartoon and the comments, I decided to check out Glenn Beck today.
I caught a quote from him that I thought I'd share:
Beck: (Talking to psychologist Dr. Ablow) "...I'm a recovering scumbag..."
I'll take his word for it.
| 724 |
jaunte Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:16:14pm |
re: #723 melea01
Some people might feel life is too short to spend time arguing with posters who are dishonest enough to insert [words] into the original sentence so that they have a straw man that will fit the argument they want to make.
| 725 |
Zimriel Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:24:18pm |
re: #711 TacomaJoe
The few times I've listened recently, he's spoken out against armed revolution - stating that such a reaction to the current tyranny would produce nothing good.
I remember Carl Rowan doing that in "The Coming Race War In America". He would jerk back and forth between saying that a race war would be awful, and pointing with glee at the chaos the Zapatistas were (then) spreading in Mexico.
That is, speaking out against armed revolution is something which people in major media force themselves to do when they've been heading towards insanity, so that they don't get fired. (I recall that Rowan was at his nadir when the equally racist, but more overt and less crazed, Sam Francis got the hook.)
I've never even watched Beck's show. Some of the comments cited at LGF these last couple days have been at the least defensible (and I've defended them); some, not so much. However if he's even got that "WOLVERINES!" nonsense on his mind, then he's got a problem, and he deserves the mockery we're seeing in this video. He needs to dial it back for his own peace of mind, if nothing else.
| 728 |
Sharmuta Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:33:34pm |
re: #726 melea01
That's utter hogwash. This blog is filled with believers who don't feel that way at all.
| 729 |
Sharmuta Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:34:27pm |
re: #726 melea01
And that's nice- public meet-ups so you guys can bash LGF.
| 730 |
Dreader1962 Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:34:41pm |
re: #726 melea01
So:
"that's what creationists do" is not a generalization? Is that what you're trying to say?And the insertion of "[all]" with []s to indicate an editorial addition highlighting the absurd general nature of the statement should lead to deactivation?
The insertion of 'all' was not necessary to make the point, unless it was to color the argument. One could have just as well inserted the word 'some' and the sentence would remain. If the poster was not sure of the intent, he could have asked for clarification.
It has nothing to do with the point of view of TacomaJoe in my opinion, but his tactics. It is aggravating enough when one is running a board to deal with the constant malicious attacks, spam, policing of various content, etc.; when a poster decides to pick a fight with the admin and uses underhanded tactics, it's Charles' call on when it's game over.
I may have made a different call, but that's not the point, either. I'm staying.
| 732 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:45:36pm |
re: #731 melea01
OUR OBSERVATION is that this site is becoming, increasingly, a venue to attack people of faith.
So, is it your contention that the justifiable criticism of certain elements of Islam here is an attack on people of faith?
| 733 |
Sharmuta Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:46:38pm |
re: #731 melea01
If your assertion was true there would be not Christians and Jews commenting at this site. They do daily. In fact many of them have stated that it's the creationists who are attacking their faith, not the other way around. Perhaps if you actually read the threads in question, you would see such comments. But instead you would rather continue this false meme you and your friends have established. If you can't see that in #705, then I don't know what to tell you.
Because I'm a Christian who accepts evolution to be fact, I've been told I'll be sent to hell. That's not exactly a Christian thing to do, and is far worse than telling people the truth about the ulterior motives of those that profess such a thing.
| 735 |
Sharmuta Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:52:04pm |
re: #734 melea01
No- if you and your friends bothered to read the threads in question, you'd see that the term "creationist" is used exclusively to describe those that reject evolution. Not people who believe in God as an overall Creator and are therefore "creationists". It has a specific meaning, but I suppose it's much easier and time efficient to assume the worst and increase the false rhetoric that it's all people of faith coming under criticism.
| 737 |
Sharmuta Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:54:02pm |
Yeah- real crusade against people of faith and Christians specifically when a Prayer List gets posted every few days without ever getting deleted by a nice, Christian lady. *eye roll*
| 738 |
Zimriel Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:54:16pm |
re: #723 melea01
How is this statement worthy of deactivation? Is it because he described himself as a creationist that you've banned TacomJoe?
Having read ALL his comments, he made a number of passive-aggressive accusations. If I hadn't been temporarily abstaining from Beck thread I would have reported him at "if you say so".
Re, "OUR OBSERVATION is that this site is becoming, increasingly, a venue to attack people of faith."
Show me where someone has attacked people of faith just for having faith, as opposed to talking down to LGF regulars and/or spouting bullshit, and I'll show you a post with a "0" on its ding meter or else a list of minuses.
Creationism gets mocked because it's silly. "Darwinism is controversial" gets opposed because it's intellectually dishonest. "Teach the controversy" gets insulted because it's a threat to the entire Western tradition of reason.
Creationists come in about three sorts: ignorant, dishonest, and intellectually lazy. There is no such thing as a (relevantly!) educated creationist, any more than there is any such thing as an educated believer in the Prime Mover or aether. Ignorance is fine; dishonesty and sloth are not fine.
Here's the point: LGF rarely attracts that proportion of creationists who ask honest questions. LGF attracts people who conflate creationism with "faith" and then who troll the threads with that misrepresentation, usually when the regulars have moved on.
| 739 |
Sharmuta Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:54:38pm |
re: #736 melea01
I know many creationists. All of the ones I know (which are not a majority or even a significant minority, I understand) recognize evolution and its place in science.
Then they're not "creationists".
| 742 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:56:36pm |
re: #736 melea01
It appears you do not understand the meaning of the term "creationist".
| 743 |
Sharmuta Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:57:05pm |
re: #736 melea01
The point is that one can attack creationism and its disciples all day - but when you broadly stereotype all who subscribe to creationism as, for example, wanting to destroy the constitution - you're being intellectually dishonest.
Have you read up on any of the fundamentalist groups that actually are pushing for a theocracy? Do you have any idea that we're specifically discussing groups such as these and NOT the majority of America loving, science accepting Christians? Or is it really easier to cling to pre-conceived notions?
| 745 |
Sharmuta Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:57:38pm |
re: #742 Slumbering Behemoth
It appears you do not understand the meaning of the term "creationist".
"According to you!" *eye roll*
| 746 |
Sharmuta Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:58:51pm |
re: #740 melea01
All it takes is a little time to read to understand that in this highly specific context, that is what is meant in these conversations. But no- you want to cling to your meme that Charles is mean and hates Christians. Knock yourself out.
| 748 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:01:19pm |
re: #741 melea01
cre·a·tion·ism
n.
Belief in the literal interpretation of the account of the creation of the universe and of all living things related in the Bible.
Now that that is cleared up, for you to argue any further in the same manner as you have here, it will be you who is being intellectually dishonest.
| 749 |
Bloodnok Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:02:03pm |
re: #747 melea01
Perhaps you are correct. I thought a creationist was someone who believed that god created the universe. I was unaware that the rejection of evolution as the underlying method of creation was required to be considered a "creatinoist."
What in the world does evolution have to do with "creation"?
| 750 |
Bloodnok Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:03:52pm |
re: #749 Bloodnok
What in the world does evolution have to do with "creation"?
BTW, here comes the "lightning and a mud puddle" DI talking point.
| 751 |
Sharmuta Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:05:00pm |
re: #747 melea01
Perhaps you are correct. I thought a creationist was someone who believed that god created the universe. I was unaware that the rejection of evolution as the underlying method of creation was required to be considered a "creatinoist."
Now we're getting somewhere. Can I provide any links to the Christian groups that advocate theocracy in America for you? I will share them, and this is a sincerely asked question.
| 753 |
Zimriel Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:07:50pm |
re: #712 J.S.
Even when Glenn Beck was on CNN, Beck was featuring Ron Paul on his programs. And I recall, even at that time, that Beck was giving Ron Paul (not just air time) but positive, encouraging praise.
That's the key right there. The way to handle Paul is to make him defend his newsletter and Alex Jones, not to get bogged down in wonkery like "The Gold Standard" or to pat each other on the back about libertarianism.
Otherwise he's just as bad as Matthews' tingling leg.
| 755 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:10:34pm |
re: #747 melea01
Perhaps you are correct. I thought a creationist was someone who believed that god created the universe.
I too once thought this was the case. This is a common misconception, and a mistake that many people make.
As noted above, creationists believe in a literal interpretation of their respective creation myths. To believe that those myths are literal (i.e. "That is exactly how it happened, without deviation or exception"), one must reject the theory of evolution completely.
| 757 |
Zimriel Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:12:57pm |
re: #752 melea01
You like the word meme quite a bit, despite its irrelevance. I've never posted here before and most of my friends that have enjoyed this site for quite a while have never been on when registration is open... so they read the threads and don't comment. So repeatedly using the word "meme" is really not apt.
If they read the threads, then they have been to sites (which used to be) like LGF, and they have seen the meme.
The point is intellectual honesty and recognizing the broad spectrum, as you demonstrate, of believers in this country - including those who believe that god created the universe.
We do recognise that spectrum, but we block out poisonous radiation like that from the ID movement.
Relevant here, this whole snit-fit started because of TraderJoe, who started off insulting LGF and kept on shining his Ultraviolet Lamp Of Troof at it until Charles got bored of him and applied the Ray-Ban.
| 758 |
Sharmuta Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:13:35pm |
re: #756 melea01
Will you likewise recognize that there are people who might not believe the definition of "creationist" is as narrow as most consider it to be?
If they'll concede that on LGF it has a highly specific meaning which is that creationists reject evolution and believe in one for or another of young earth creationism (earth is 6000-10,000 years old).
| 759 |
melea01 Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:14:08pm |
re: #755 Slumbering Behemoth
I too once thought this was the case. This is a common misconception, and a mistake that many people make.
As noted above, creationists believe in a literal interpretation of their respective creation myths. To believe that those myths are literal (i.e. "That is exactly how it happened, without deviation or exception"), one must reject the theory of evolution completely.
Why? I mean this seriously. IF one believes the universe was created six thousand years ago in a week - can one not believe that god used evolution in that creation... in other words, that an earth was created to reflect billions of years of micro and macro evolution?
That's where the "myth" part comes in - which should exclude it from any and every science classroom - which is why I still come here and read - even the anti-creationism threads.... but, again, I know people who believe in the Bible... but recognize that they don't know everything and therefore have determined to keep their faith and their acceptance of science distinct from one another.
| 760 |
Zimriel Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:16:33pm |
re: #758 Sharmuta
If they'll concede that on LGF it has a highly specific meaning which is that creationists reject evolution and believe in one for or another of young earth creationism (earth is 6000-10,000 years old).
Actually, LGF does hit a wider range of targets; young-earth is simply mocked, but "teach the controversy" is treated far more seriously. (By me, anyway.)
"Teach the controversy" is bankrolled and supported by creationists, but its propagandists are actually sophists - rogue philosophers.
| 762 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:17:25pm |
re: #756 melea01
Will you likewise recognize that there are people who might not believe the definition of "creationist" is as narrow as most consider it to be?
I can't speak for Sharmuta, but I have said as much in my post #755. The problem however is that words do have specific meaning, and we do not have the privilege of altering their definitions to make them more appealing to our biases. To do so would be intellectually dishonest.
| 763 |
melea01 Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:19:26pm |
re: #757 Zimriel
We do recognise that spectrum, but we block out poisonous radiation like that from the ID movement.
Relevant here, this whole snit-fit started because of TraderJoe, who started off insulting LGF and kept on shining his Ultraviolet Lamp Of Troof at it until Charles got bored of him and applied the Ray-Ban.
Ok. Lesson: above all, one cannot insult LGF or the tenor of discussions here and never ask why a generalization is made about a group of people that are narrowly defined on this website. And when identifying oneself as a "creationist" one must tread very carefully and fit within the molded definition established, in stone, herein.
I must go - but please don't let the whipping of the horrible creationists cease on my departure. Carry on with your bad selves. And I'll go figure out how my meme is doing.
| 764 |
Zimriel Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:19:35pm |
re: #759 melea01
I know people who believe in the Bible... but recognize that they don't know everything and therefore have determined to keep their faith and their acceptance of science distinct from one another.
If a faith claim runs up against a science claim, which wins? If the faith claim wins, that's a fundamentalist. That's more narrowly a creationist, if the claim extends to natural science.
| 765 |
melea01 Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:21:21pm |
re: #762 Slumbering Behemoth
I can't speak for Sharmuta, but I have said as much in my post #755. The problem however is that words do have specific meaning, and we do not have the privilege of altering their definitions to make them more appealing to our biases. To do so would be intellectually dishonest.
There are many dictionaries and many definitions... "creationist" has at least six I've found in different dictionaries. Now that I know that wholesale rejection of evolution is a requisite to being considered a "creationist" I will advise my pseudo creationist friends accordingly. Good day.
| 766 |
Zimriel Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:24:36pm |
re: #763 melea01
Ok. Lesson: above all, one cannot insult LGF or the tenor of discussions here and never ask why a generalization is made about a group of people that are narrowly defined on this website. And when identifying oneself as a "creationist" one must tread very carefully and fit within the molded definition established, in stone, herein.
If the generalisation bothers you, then define what you understand about how that generalisation applies to you, and then defend THAT turf. I do that when people tee off on "social conservatives" (although I've been getting the feeling lately that I'm personally more of a constitutional conservative when it comes to politics...).
I must go - but please don't let the whipping of the horrible creationists cease on my departure. Carry on with your bad selves. And I'll go figure out how my meme is doing.
The closing snark was unfortunate, but I suppose I'd provoked you into it.
| 767 |
Sharmuta Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:24:40pm |
One of the specified groups as pushing theocracy is Rushdoony and Christian reconstructionists:
In the Institutes, Rushdoony supported the reinstatement of the Mosaic law's penal sanctions. Under such a system, the list of civil crimes which carried a death sentence would include homosexuality, adultery, incest, lying about one's virginity, bestiality, witchcraft, idolatry or apostasy, public blasphemy, false prophesying, kidnapping, rape, and bearing false witness in a capital case
Then there's Compass International and their Stealing the Mind conferences, where they do indeed promote theocracy, which you can read about in the book Monkey Girl.
There's also the Wedge Document itself. And the comments of the father of the Wedge, Phillip Johnson:
"This isn't really, and never has been a debate about science. It's about religion and philosophy."
And:
Johnson calls his movement "The Wedge." The objective, he said, is to convince people that Darwinism is inherently atheistic, thus shifting the debate from creationism vs. evolution to the existence of God vs. the non-existence of God. From there people are introduced to "the truth" of the Bible and then "the question of sin" and finally "introduced to Jesus."
| 768 |
melea01 Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:26:06pm |
re: #761 buzzsawmonkey
If I read the above correctly, you are arguing that the Earth was created 6000 years ago in a literal week, but that "evolution was used" in that creation and that the process of creation was faked by the Almighty to appear as though there had been billions of years of evolutionary development.
If that is a misreading, I apologize. If it is an accurate statement of your position, I have to say that it is the most demeaning portrait of G-d I have ever seen.
Not my position - one position that I understood from a recent conversation with a friend who thinks he's a creationist, but apparently isn't - according to some here.
Out of curiosity, why do you think time means anything "G-d" beyond a regime under which the creation exists? And why do you think "G-d's" creation must be confined to our understanding of time?
Maybe if my friend catches an open registration, he'll come and finish this conversation. Suffice it to say, I was not left with the impression that his position was a demeaning portrait of "G-d."
| 770 |
melea01 Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:28:58pm |
re: #766 Zimriel
The closing snark was unfortunate, but I suppose I'd provoked you into it.
My apologies.
I should have refrained.
As to the constitutional conservative characterization - that is precisely my political philosophy. If we are not a nation governed by laws, especially one supreme - albeit amendable - law, then we are subject to tyranny.
Thanks for the convo.
| 771 |
Zimriel Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:29:59pm |
re: #768 melea01
Not my position - one position that I understood from a recent conversation with a friend who thinks he's a creationist, but apparently isn't - according to some here.
Out of curiosity, why do you think time means anything "G-d" beyond a regime under which the creation exists? And why do you think "G-d's" creation must be confined to our understanding of time?
It's possible that he's calling himself a "creationist" to fit in with his church and his friends. And Saint Augustine agrees with you that God did his act of creation from a manifold outside our four-dimensional, bounded universe.
| 773 |
Emerald Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:47:02pm |
re: #703 TacomaJoe
Right. If you say so.
Sweeping generalizations are the hallmark of intellectual thought and sound argument.
Keep up the good crusade against the creationists, all of whom, according to you, think evolution and Nazism are inextricably intertwined.
I'm a Christian. I'm not a creationist. Charles has never posted a single thing that I, as a Christian, have found offensive. The only people offended are those who have had their irrational and medieval beliefs exposed to the ridicule they deserve.
| 774 |
melea01 Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:47:36pm |
re: #772 buzzsawmonkey
First off, if what I quoted is not your position, you nonetheless seem to be espousing it--not unlike the person who goes to inquire of the doctor about a venereal disease on behalf of a "friend," actually themselves.
Second, the notion that the real creation took place 6000 years ago, and that the billions of years worth of evidence suggesting otherwise is faked makes G-d look like some punk practical joker who has contempt for His creation, Man, and the intelligence with which He endowed Man, rather than rather than the Master of the Universe who has a loving connection with His handiwork.
Third, your argument that "time has no meaning to G-d" is in fact correct; it supports the idea that the billions of years and the evolution are real; and it completely undercuts as paltry human rationalizing the mental gymnastics which people who are wedded to the 6000-year scenario engage in.
You can, of course, believe whatever you wish, in whatever convoluted form you desire. All I require of you is that you recognize that your religious beliefs, like mine, do not belong in a science class.
First - yes, you've got me. I'm pretending to be a creationist even though I'm not. Good catch. I'm what they call a "Stealth Creationist" - I go into blogs in creationist-hostile websites and wreak havoc!
If you'd paid attention to my posts, maybe you would have seen that I have been a LGF fan for quite a while, and a recent registrant (last few months) and had never commented. BUT, after a RECENT conversation with fellow LGF fans at a BBQ regarding the topic at hand (creationism v. evolution) and what we all perceived to be a change in LGF - I thought I'd jump in... after witnessing a poster get banned for calling into question Charles' generalization.
Second - okay.
Third - you can require whatever you'd like and, apparently, you can make many assumptions. I never once said that creationism, ID, or any derivative thereof, belonged in any science class. In fact, I indicated that it had no place there.
| 776 |
Tarheel Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:15:47pm |
Wonder what Fox thinks about the use of their logo?
| 777 |
cowbellallen Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:24:45pm |
Just stopping in to point out that Glenn Beck continuously said in the primary cycle that he could never vote for Ron Paul.
This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.
Comments are closed.
Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds
- Featured PagesClick to refresh
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
Cheechako
5 days ago
Views: 671 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Alone in a Bathroom: The Fear and Uncertainty of a Post-Roe Medication Abortion Angel tucked two white pills into each side of her mouth, bracing herself as they began to dissolve. Her deepest fears and anxieties took over. Angel had wanted to talk to a doctor before she took the pills to ... Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 1,304 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 3
They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 395 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1- Pictures From Today’s Exhibition of Paintings Done by Jane LilienthalPROPS TO MICHELE AND SAGEHEN FOR CATCHING THE SPELLING ERROR IN THE TITLE THAT MY DIABETIC EYES COULDN'T CATCH I wanted to share pictures of the art show I visited today. The portraits were created by the mother of my ...Joe Bacon ✅
3 weeks ago
Views: 480 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 11 
March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
William Lewis
4 weeks ago
Views: 589 • Comments: 2 • Rating: 9
Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
Rightwingconspirator
4 weeks ago
Views: 582 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 5
Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... Cheechako
4 weeks ago
Views: 573 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 5- A Closer Look at the Eastman State Bar DecisionTaking a few minutes away from work things to read through the Eastman decision. As I'm sure many of you know, Eastman was my law school con law professor. I knew him pretty well because I was also running in ...KGxvi
4 weeks ago
Views: 468 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 4
- Recent PagesClick to refresh
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
2 days ago
Views: 105 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 270 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
