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A ritual wouldn’t be much of a ritual if you didn’t feel like you’ve been put through the wringer, would it?

— James Burke

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1 wiffersnapper  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:06:14pm

Fraternity hazings are the best rituals... unless you're on the receiving end.

2 Kelidor  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:06:42pm

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Barclays (more than 30% owned by Arab investors) has refused to acknowledge their implicit endorsement of the Government of Dubai which rigorously enforces the Arab boycott of Israel, nor have they confirmed that they will not sponsor any future event which could lead to the discrimination of Israelis or others.

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Thank you and with all good wishes.

3 rawmuse  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:06:56pm

I am bummed, that poor missing girl in the valley, they found her body today. I was hoping for better news.

4 Silvergirl  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:11:30pm

re: #3 rawmuse

I am bummed, that poor missing girl in the valley, they found her body today. I was hoping for better news.

I saw the headline about the discovery and couldn't bring myself to read the story.

5 freetoken  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:11:34pm

500 and counting...

6 realwest  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:12:13pm

Sorry for the re-post but I just want to give Charles an opportunity to see this:
"Well y'all I gotta go get some sleep.

Charles, there are two birthdays coming up, mine's on the 11th and I'd surely appreciate it if LGF was up and running at least on that day.
The 13th would be an excellent day for LGF to be up and running too - just saying!
Anway, good night all, hope you have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

7 freetoken  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:12:24pm

Oh yeah... we'll make 7,000,000 easily...

8 astronmr20  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:12:53pm

I'm watching Anthony Bourdain, the show where he finally selected the winner to travel with to their area.

He picked Saudi Arabia. While I'm sure Bourdain will make it interesting (he did point out that 15 of the 19 hijackers came from there), the winner was a girl from Saudi, so he''ll be traveling with her to her country.

The extraordinary irony of all of this, which I'm sure they'll fail to mention, is that this girl will effectively be traveling with a man who is not her relative. Highly illegal in the Magic Kingdom.

9 Gus  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:13:16pm

re: #3 rawmuse

I am bummed, that poor missing girl in the valley, they found her body today. I was hoping for better news.

Sucks but we're too busy busting drug users and drug dealers. Meanwhile we're handing out lenient sentences to sexual predators and putting them on a list in order to appear that we're handing out a harsh penalty. There's no doubt that the perp has a prior that should have resulted in 10 years in the house which could have saved this kids life. These freaks serve less time compared to check bouncers.

10 astronmr20  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:13:21pm

re: #3 rawmuse

I am bummed, that poor missing girl in the valley, they found her body today. I was hoping for better news.

):

11 Salem  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:13:29pm

Night RW...

12 rawmuse  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:13:51pm

Well, this is amusing.
Woman locked in own car, calls 911.
Scroll down and click the audio button.

13 Pietr  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:13:52pm

re: #6 realwest

G'night, RW...see you upthread at a later time...

14 realwest  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:15:32pm

re: #7 freetoken I wonder if Charles deducts the comments from those he's banned and forever wiped LGF clean of their comments? Wouldn't that screw up the numbers some?
Besides which Charles has said before that he never knows who posts the whatever millionth post for a day or so afterwards!

15 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:16:17pm

re: #3 rawmuse

We're not even a week into April and we're fresh out of good news.

16 DistantThunder  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:16:18pm

re: #3 rawmuse

I am bummed, that poor missing girl in the valley, they found her body today. I was hoping for better news.

I have relatives that live in Tracy. How devastating. I am working on a book on toddler safety. Every day I get yahoo news with the words toddler and accidents. The big themes every day that I see are
1)child run over in driveway
2)child found wandering
3)child found in pool or pond
4) child beaten by step-father

it's amazing.

17 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:16:30pm

re: #12 rawmuse

Well, this is amusing.
Woman locked in own car, calls 911.
Scroll down and click the audio button.

Youtube Video
18 freetoken  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:17:21pm

re: #14 realwest

I wonder if Charles deducts the comments from those he's banned and forever wiped LGF clean of their comments? Wouldn't that screw up the numbers some?

If he did, no doubt the experts over at WUWT would be on his case in a second...

/see downstairs

19 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:18:52pm

re: #12 rawmuse

Well, this is amusing.
Woman locked in own car, calls 911.
Scroll down and click the audio button.


She should've called BlondeStar &#8482

20 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:19:47pm

re: #8 astronmr20

Did I ever tell you the story about me and a Saudi girl's feet?
///

21 astronmr20  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:19:57pm

re: #17 Dustyvet

[Video]

We really need to explore the idea of I.Q. voting requirements.

22 Gus  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:20:19pm

re: #16 DistantThunder

I have relatives that live in Tracy. How devastating. I am working on a book on toddler safety. Every day I get yahoo news with the words toddler and accidents. The big themes every day that I see are
1)child run over in driveway
2)child found wandering
3)child found in pool or pond
4) child beaten by step-father

it's amazing.

That list could be expanded but I won't bother. We should send it to Focus on the Family however.

23 DistantThunder  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:20:27pm

Marcus Lattrell, The Lone Survivor, is on Beck talking about a gang of thugs that killed his service dog - for fun. The four of them were in the back of the police cruiser laughing. His dog was named Daisy - after each of the first letters of the name of his squad who were murdered.

Speaking of Al-queda - a translator is trying to apply for a visa in iraq. His brother was tortured to tell them where he was. They drilled out his eyes with an electric drill.

24 Gus  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:23:44pm

re: #23 DistantThunder

Marcus Lattrell, The Lone Survivor, is on Beck talking about a gang of thugs that killed his service dog - for fun. The four of them were in the back of the police cruiser laughing. His dog was named Daisy - after each of the first letters of the name of his squad who were murdered.

Speaking of Al-queda - a translator is trying to apply for a visa in iraq. His brother was tortured to tell them where he was. They drilled out his eyes with an electric drill.

No one cares. The left hates him for being a translator for a "Bush War" and the right is too busy defending Glenn Beck.

25 Killian Bundy  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:24:10pm

Bailout Man Turns the Screws

Late on New Year's Eve, James Lambright, a Treasury Department official, sat waiting impatiently for documents to arrive from Citigroup Inc. He'd just been told by the bank's chief financial officer that Citigroup couldn't reach some executives who needed to sign the paperwork, including one woman whose husband was in the hospital with a heart attack.

"Well then, you know where to find her," Mr. Lambright replied to the finance chief, Gary Crittenden, according to three accounts of the call. "Put someone in one of your fancy black cars and get her to sign the document."

As the government continues to pour cash into the economy, Mr. Lambright, 38 years old, has become one of the most powerful men in American finance. Unknown to most outside the Treasury building, he's an embodiment of how power in the economy has shifted -- for good or ill -- to Washington.

/we're the government and we're here to help, chilling

26 axegrinder  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:39:07pm

re: #25 Killian Bundy

I hope there's an exit strategy to put the power back where it belongs. Washington could muck up a wet dream.

27 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:41:41pm

Oh sure, I mention a Saudi girl's feet and everyone leaves the room. Right, like none of you ever got freaky. Hypocrites!
///

28 BignJames  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:42:32pm

re: #27 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh sure, I mention a Saudi girl's feet and everyone leaves the room. Right, like none of you ever got freaky. Hypocrites!
///

What kind of shoes?

29 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:43:34pm

re: #28 BignJames

None. I likes 'em nekkid.

30 BignJames  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:44:36pm

re: #29 Slumbering Behemoth

None. I likes 'em nekkid.


How pedestrian.

31 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:44:54pm

re: #8 astronmr20

I'm watching Anthony Bourdain, the show where he finally selected the winner to travel with to their area.

He picked Saudi Arabia. While I'm sure Bourdain will make it interesting (he did point out that 15 of the 19 hijackers came from there), the winner was a girl from Saudi, so he''ll be traveling with her to her country.

The extraordinary irony of all of this, which I'm sure they'll fail to mention, is that this girl will effectively be traveling with a man who is not her relative. Highly illegal in the Magic Kingdom.

Bourdain got turned into a complete tool on this episode. It was so obviously a propaganda setup by the Saudis by the end, I was amazed the producers let it air. His host was constantly parroting the Official Party Lines: segregation is done for the sake of the women, we're not repressive at all, Saudi Arabia is a fun-filled paradise, yadayadayada.

I understand that Bourdain is there for other reasons, and takes great pains not to offend his hosts (unless they're Romanian) but this episode was a real disappointment. He got played, big time.

32 axegrinder  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:45:58pm

Bobby socks, pig tails and a lollipop as accessories./

33 Killian Bundy  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:46:58pm

TSA detains official from Ron Paul group

The Transportation Security Administration is investigating the detention and harassment of a Ron Paul organization official by airport screeners, an incident that was caught on tape at a St. Louis airport.

Steve Bierfeldt, director of development for Campaign for Liberty, was selected for additional screening after officials spotted a metal box in his luggage that contained a large amount of cash and checks made out to the campaign.

OH NOES!

/this'll rile up the FEMA detention camp loonies

34 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:49:49pm

Fenway's Things that Sparkle Precious Metals Update:

Gold- $876.90 an ounce (up .09%)
Silver- $12.26 an ounce (up 1.2%)
Platinum- $1157 an ounce (up 1.4%)
Palladium- $223 an ounce (up 0.4%)
Rhodium- $1010 an ounce (unchanged- trading suspended?)

35 BignJames  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:50:16pm

re: #29 Slumbering Behemoth

None. I likes 'em nekkid.


You sure? Nothing open-toed?


/took psych. course

36 Pietr  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:54:24pm

They have courses to make one a psycho?

/white smoke...

37 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:56:00pm

Hmmm... I liked it when it was "Every Which Way But Loose". Maybe I'll like this one as well. Maybe not.

38 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:56:27pm

re: #25 Killian Bundy

Bailout Man Turns the Screws

/we're the government and we're here to help, chilling

Executives need to stand up to this sort of thuggery. An appropriate response, in the end, would have been along the lines of, "OK, Mr. Lambright. We'll take the papers over to the hospital and inform our executive that she's supposed to sign them, at your direction, even though she's in the midst of a personal crisis that will prevent her from examining them with due diligence. And of course, we'll be taking a news crew with us, along with the recording of this phone conversation; if you'd like to arrange for someone from your department to meet us at the hospital, we'll be there in about an hour. And we'll be bringing our own video crew, to ensure that this compliance with your directions is duly recorded in our public corporate records. See you there."

In other words, they can stop this by throwing the curtains open and letting sunlight pour in. Abuse like this thrives in the darkness.

39 Pietr  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:56:54pm

re: #29 Slumbering Behemoth

None. I likes 'em nekkid.

re: #30 BignJames

How pedestrian.

Earthy, or even Bohemian...where's the fun in not taking stuff off to tittilate?

40 BignJames  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:57:08pm

re: #36 Pietr

They have courses to make one a psycho?

/white smoke...


calculus

41 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:58:54pm

re: #35 BignJames

Nope, full nekkid. What does your psych schooling say about that?

Signed,

Honestly Curious

42 Pietr  Mon, Apr 6, 2009 11:59:07pm

re: #40 BignJames

calculus

Ehh, it's not like it's Rocket Science...

///

43 BignJames  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:00:38am

re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth

Nope, full nekkid. What does your psych schooling say about that?

Signed,

Honestly Curious


That you don't have a shoe fetish?

44 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:01:09am

re: #39 Pietr


Earthy, or even Bohemian...

Dude, it's spelled Behemoth. Damn Peter, c'mon!
///

45 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:04:59am

Nekkid?

46 BignJames  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:05:15am

re: #39 Pietr

Earthy, or even Bohemian...where's the fun in not taking stuff off to tittilate?


Dude, you typed tittilate...unhuhunhuhunhuh...

/b&b off

47 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:07:35am

re: #43 BignJames

:sigh:

I focus on a woman's boobs, and I am a "breast man". I focus on a woman's rear, and I am an "ass man". I focus on her thighs, and I am a "leg man".

But I suck on one toe, and suddenly I am a freak with a fetish. Life ain't fair.
///

48 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:08:57am

re: #45 Sharmuta

Bare. Without covering. Nekkid.

49 BignJames  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:10:09am

re: #47 Slumbering Behemoth


That's for the small minded. I think you're a "big picture" type.

50 iLikeCandy  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:13:50am

Quick survey: What's in your other browser window (or on your t.v.) right now?

--Anna and the King with Jody Foster and Chow Yun-fat here. Awful.

51 Salem  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:15:30am

Red Eye

52 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:15:32am

re: #49 BignJames

Maybe that's it. Dunno. Show me a part of a woman I wouldn't kiss, and I'll show you the part of a woman that emits snakes and wasps and stuff. In other words...

/is this getting too "blue"?

53 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:17:04am

re: #50 iLikeCandy

A couple of financial pages keeping track of activites in different overseas stock markets...supposedly in real-time.

/and Siouxsie & The Banshees The Passenger on YouTube in another window.

54 iLikeCandy  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:17:12am

What comes after Red Eye? Infomercials?

55 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:17:28am

re: #52 Slumbering Behemoth

Sounds kinda GREEN; eco friendly, even...

56 sngnsgt  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:18:45am

re: #54 iLikeCandy

What comes after Red Eye? Infomercials?

Special Report w/ Bret Baier

57 Salem  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:19:25am

re: #54 iLikeCandy

What comes after Red Eye? Infomercials?

No. Um. Cavuto or something. I don't recall.

58 TheMatrix31  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:19:44am

re: #50 iLikeCandy

Quick survey: What's in your other browser window (or on your t.v.) right now?

--Anna and the King with Jody Foster and Chow Yun-fat here. Awful.

Facebook and TiVo'ed Seinfeld.

59 iLikeCandy  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:20:55am

You've all got me beat. I'd better get busy.

60 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:22:25am

re: #55 Pietr

Sounds kinda GREEN; eco friendly, even...

Well if that's eco-friendly, then I am about the greenest mo-fo you'll ever meet.

61 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:33:45am

Well, I've gone ten deep into TMI territory, and likely have alienated the more modest Lizardettes here.

I'll rein it in.

62 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:56:26am

433 to go and Slumbering kills this thread...

63 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 12:59:51am

Because gosh-darn it- this thread isn't dead enough, it's time for another Fenway's Overseas market update:

Australia's All Ordinaries- down 1.3%

Shanghai Composite- up 0.8%

Mumbai's SENSEX- up 1.8%

Singapore's Straits Times- down 1.86%

New Zealand's NZSE50- down 0.8%

KOSPI Seoul Composite- up 0.17%

Tel Aviv TA100- up 0.45%

Hang Seng- down 0.41%

Nikkei- down 0.28%

Johannesburg JSE Limited- up 0.09%

Taiwan Weighted- up 0.37%

64 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:00:04am

re: #62 freetoken

Some forking stalker-troll will probably get it now. All thanks to me.
//

65 JustMyView  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:01:38am

re: #16 DistantThunder

I have relatives that live in Tracy. How devastating. I am working on a book on toddler safety. Every day I get yahoo news with the words toddler and accidents. The big themes every day that I see are
1)child run over in driveway
2)child found wandering
3)child found in pool or pond
4) child beaten by step-father

it's amazing.

How about (5) child left alone in car in hot (or even warm) weather?

There was a story about this by Gene Weingarten in the Washington Post a few weeks ago. Very well done and very sad.

66 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:02:55am

re: #64 Slumbering Behemoth

I was looking for some good Japanese Idol videos with prominent feet for you... but I get easily distracted...

67 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:05:32am

re: #66 freetoken

Lemme guess, you got distracted by elbows, right?
///

68 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:07:21am

re: #67 Slumbering Behemoth

Lemme guess, you got distracted by elbows, right?
///

heh... when the elbows are as nice as Kana's, ...

69 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:08:18am

re: #66 freetoken

Let's see...if I should ever find myself alone in a room with Yoko Matsugane, the last thing in the world I'm going to be paying attention to are her feet.

70 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:14:01am

Check it out Beavis! Comment #69!

uhh heh heh...

71 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:16:03am

re: #68 freetoken

Her earlobes aren't nothing to frown at either.

//dang!

72 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:16:07am

Y'know...when it was first introduced, I briefly tried the auto-update feature before quickly abandoning it since it was difficult to keep up on a fast-moving thread; especially if I was trying to type a response.

Somehow I don't think that will be a problem on this thread.

73 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:17:01am

Boys. *eye roll*

74 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:18:31am

I was behaving! Honest!

/just not very well.

75 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:20:08am

re: #73 Sharmuta

I won't stop you from objectifying men. Ladies gotta get theirs too.

76 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:21:54am

re: #69 Fenway_Nation

You'll pay attention to whatever she tells you to, and you'll forking like it!
//

77 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:22:41am

re: #71 Slumbering Behemoth

Her anything is fine by me... Kana is the ultimate Japanese Idol...

/what we won't do to hit that magic 7000000...

78 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:24:03am

re: #76 Slumbering Behemoth

In that case, I may have to resort to not being able to speak Japanese.

It'll be a stretch...

79 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:29:25am

re: #77 freetoken

I'm afraid day crew's going to get to hit it. Should we start a pool for who the lucky winner will be?

80 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:31:04am

I'm guessing Ben Hur.

81 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:33:05am

re: #79 Sharmuta

Space Jesus? Spar Kling? Avanti? nodroG?

82 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:33:27am

re: #79 Sharmuta

The dork that makes an awkward, sexual comment.

/wait, what?

83 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:35:52am

re: #79 Sharmuta

396 to go.

Fortunately for Slumbering, there are more than 396 Japanese Idol videos on Youtube...

84 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:45:54am

I'll be damned...

Looks like the state charter jet wasn't the only thing that Sarah Palin auctioned off.

In December 2006, the Alaska Railroad auctioned five units (numbers 2801, 2803, 2804, 2806, and 2807) plus parts;[1] Helm Leasing was the winning bidder with a bid of $1.3 million.

Apparently the rest were sold late last year. Although fairly new (1983), there were only nine of these locomotives ever built...

85 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:48:02am

re: #83 freetoken

Fortunately for me, I have wide and varied tastes. Short or tall, thick or small, busty or modest, redheads, brunettes or blondes. Any shade of skin, any color of eyes. I like nearly all types. Head to toe, and the tight-short haters can bite me.

86 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:53:29am

re: #85 Slumbering Behemoth

'Celebrate Diversity!'

87 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:55:57am

re: #85 Slumbering Behemoth

I like nearly all types.

So, who didn't make the cut?

88 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:57:09am

re: #87 freetoken


Cindy Sheehan?

89 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:58:53am

re: #83 freetoken

Ummm- 6,996,548 + 1

90 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:59:05am

re: #85 Slumbering Behemoth

All of that is good stuff, and it surely catches the attention of misogynistic males like myself, but what really makes a man take notice, in the long run, is the contents of ladies noggin, and the quality of her character and integrity.

Not married myself, but ask a married man if I'm wrong.

91 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:59:50am

The official counter is in the sidebar, not the # we see in posted comments.

92 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:00:06am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

93 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:00:42am

But enough about that...who's hankerin' for some fruitcup!?

94 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:00:42am

re: #92 littleoldlady

Thanks!

95 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:01:06am

re: #93 Fenway_Nation

Already got mine. Yum.

96 BignJames  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:01:11am

re: #90 Slumbering Behemoth

All of that is good stuff, and it surely catches the attention of misogynistic males like myself, but what really makes a man take notice, in the long run, is the contents of ladies noggin, and the quality of her character and integrity.

Not married myself, but ask a married man if I'm wrong.


I might mislead you but I'd never lie to you.

97 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:01:15am

Sharmuta! :-)

98 Erik The Red  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:01:16am

re: #92 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Thanks {lol} First one I have gotten fresh in a few days:)

99 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:02:02am

Erik! :-)

100 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:02:31am

Funny- the issue with the # in posted comments comes up every time we hit a milestone. The official counter is the sidebar. Honest.

101 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:02:39am

re: #87 freetoken

The list is just as long. Fenway nailed pointed out one.

102 BatGuano  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:02:57am

Thank you littleoldlady

103 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:03:58am

BatGuano! :-)

104 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:04:58am

Yes, there is a discrepancy of 64 comments, comparing the sidebar to the number attached to the comment. As I mentioned earlier, certainly the experts over at WUWT will be able to conclude that there is some nefarious operations going on in Lizard headquarters.

105 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:06:42am

re: #101 Slumbering Behemoth

Fenway nailed pointed out one.

Not even with Rosie O'Donnel's dick would I nail that.

106 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:08:36am

Between me and her, there is a decade of difference. Regardless, she gives me a tingle up my *ahem*, leg...

107 Canoe Train  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:17:48am

re: #92 littleoldlady

I suppose I could help out and offer a fruit cup to those who are interested.

108 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:17:52am

I don't want to be 7,000,000 anyways. I want to be 6,996,569.

109 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:18:31am

So ... LittleOldLady comes in with the Fruitcup at 2AM Pacific.
Note to self : Put the kettle on at 1:55 AM.

Good Morning , All !

110 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:18:52am

re: #104 freetoken

Yes, there is a discrepancy of 64 comments, comparing the sidebar to the number attached to the comment. As I mentioned earlier, certainly the experts over at WUWT will be able to conclude that there is some nefarious operations going on in Lizard headquarters.

3064.

111 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:21:24am

Canoe Train! :-)

Yes, you could.

/why?
//isn't mine good today?
///oh! you mean FRUIT (space) CUP! ;-)

Misspellers 'R Us!

112 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:21:49am

Morning, pass the moonbaticide!

Are the BBC's legs still all a-tingley from the Meesiah's visit?

113 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:22:30am

Pass The Moonbaticide! :-)

114 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:23:36am

re: #110 Sharmuta

3064.

Yes, 3064... my bad...

Still, if I could get the comment enumerated as # 7,000,000 I could declare a symbolic achievement!

/symbolism over substance any day...

115 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:25:12am

re: #112 Fenway_Nation
Worse than that ... They're following him to continue the worship in Prague, Ankara , Strasbourg ...

116 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:25:34am

re: #114 freetoken

/symbolism over substance any day...

/Looks at that last statement...
/looks at your avatar...
/look at the button that says 'reset' in Russia

117 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:25:58am

re: #115 Pass The Moonbaticide

What say you keep him?

/free to a good home...

118 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:26:41am

I skimmed the comments briefly before my first .

'364 to go' .
To what , precisely ?

119 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:27:42am

re: #115 Pass The Moonbaticide


In that case, think of him as the pied piper of the MSM.

/I can't tell those are children or vermin he's leading off towards that large body of water.

120 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:28:37am

re: #117 littleoldlady
We'll get rid of all our nukes in tribute, shall we ?

We don't have an enemy in the world, do we ?

121 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:33:01am

I have suggested to my wife that we divert the $900 Billion from Palestinian 'Reconstruction' to the Italian people for Earthquake rebuilding.
Bonus : The Italians don't want to kill us.

Good idea, Eh ?

122 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:34:10am

re: #120 Pass The Moonbaticide

Right. YOU FIRST!

123 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:34:12am

re: #118 Pass The Moonbaticide

Til 7 million comments, but it's actually 3417 comments away.

124 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:34:20am

3415

125 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:35:01am

re: #121 Pass The Moonbaticide

I have suggested to my wife that we divert the $900 Billion from Palestinian 'Reconstruction' to the Italian people for Earthquake rebuilding.
Bonus : The Italians don't want to kill us.

Good idea, Eh ?


Only one upding from me for that, unfortunately.

126 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:35:54am

re: #123 Sharmuta

That should be...tonight!?

/unless the comments are bombed to get there sooner...

127 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:36:33am

Since she likes Easter... For lol:

Youtube Video
128 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:36:53am

re: #126 littleoldlady

Mid-afternoon maybe?

129 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:37:39am

re: #127 Sharmuta

FABULOUS! :-)

130 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:38:25am

re: #129 littleoldlady

Who loves ya, Lady?

131 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:38:34am

re: #126 littleoldlady

That should be...tonight!?

/unless the comments are bombed to get there sooner...

re: #128 Sharmuta

Mid-afternoon maybe?


Or just one young-earth creationist/anti-vaccine thread

132 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:39:56am

re: #130 Sharmuta

Awww, shucks! :-)

/obviously the Kitchen Cleaning Fairy and all the Little Elves DON'T :-(

133 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:41:17am

Sorry for the delay ... AOL freaked again.

134 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:42:38am

re: #131 Fenway_Nation

Or just one young-earth creationist/anti-vaccine thread

There are more explosive issues than those now...

Indeed, many of the creationism threads are not as exciting now that so many sleeper creationists have been whacked by Stinky.

135 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:43:43am

Another marijuana thread, Dude.

136 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:44:08am

re: #127 Sharmuta

WTF? Such a filthy, wrinkly old codger with such a young woman. That ain't right!
/

137 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:44:34am

re: #135 Sharmuta

Another marijuana thread, Dude.

Heh... see my spin-off link...

138 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:52:50am

I'm listening to a speech by Barry Goldwater while I'm posting here.
He just mentioned 'CCC Camps', and how the cost per Youth was $4700/Year against a Harvard Education costing $2400.
What were CCC Camps ?

139 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:55:31am

re: #138 Pass The Moonbaticide

A New Deal thingie...

140 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:56:13am

Good night lizards...be sure to save me some of that very special fruitcup from post #6,000,000

I hear red might be contributing some ingredients

141 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:56:52am

re: #140 Fenway_Nation

Fenway! :-)

OY. ;-)

142 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:58:25am

re: #138 Pass The Moonbaticide

What first pops to mind is the "California Conservation Corps". I have no idea if that's what he meant.

143 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:59:38am

re: #137 freetoken

Dude!

Did you know that the United States of America, the Land of the Free, puts a larger portion of its population behind bars than any country on earth? Thanks in large part to the War on Drugs, Americans lock more of their own in cages than do the thuggish Russians or those "Islamofascist" Saudis

144 pass the moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:00:22am

re: #139 littleoldlady
That was interesting ...
No wonder 92% of dems supported them ... They were fabulously expensive for each 'job' 'created' .

Shades of Obama !

145 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:02:45am
the misconceived laws meant to save us from our own wickedness.

Wil rocks.

146 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:02:48am

re: #144 pass the moonbaticide

Oh yeah. Let's try an unsuccessful strategy again!

/The Obama Method for EVERYTHING

As the Great Depression persisted, even Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau admitted that the New Deal had been a failure. On May 6, 1939, he confessed, “We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. . . . We have never made good on our promises. . . . I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. . . . And an enormous debt to boot!”

147 pass the moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:05:48am

... and in case you thought your Government wastes cash, it transpires that the UK Labour Government spent £230,000 for each patient removed from Hospitals waiting lists (Reducing these was a Government Priority) last year.

What were patients getting for that degree of spending ? Gold utensils ? Personal Servants ? Silk Bedsheets ?

148 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:09:52am

re: #92 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Yaaay...

Oh look! LoL brought us some cookies to go with our fruit...

149 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:11:32am

Good Morning LGF
Snow in April - BUUUMMMEEERRR!

150 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:12:39am

Why do people find it necessary, to go over to hotair, and rant about Charles on their threads?

sheeesh

151 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:12:56am

re: #148 freetoken

freetoken! :-)

FORBIDDEN cookies! :-( :-( :-(

You don't have permission to access /hemp cookies.jpg on this server.

Hiya Spare O'Lake! :-)

152 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:15:37am

re: #142 Slumbering Behemoth

What first pops to mind is the "California Conservation Corps". I have no idea if that's what he meant.

A search also returned "Civilian Conservation Corps".

153 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:16:00am

re: #143 Sharmuta

Well, that's Big Mother for ya.
//
/full of moronic, goober imagery, but the only decent version of that tune I could find.

154 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:16:40am

re: #151 littleoldlady

littleoldlady! vee gate ess?

155 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:17:17am

re: #151 littleoldlady

FORBIDDEN cookies! :-( :-( :-(

Well... they aren't forbidden out here in the Golden State...

156 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:19:36am

re: #154 Spare O'Lake

Meh, feh, pui and fui?

;-)

/I really hate Passover...

A British Jew is waiting in line to be knighted by the Queen. He is to kneel in front of her and recite a sentence in Latin when she taps him on the shoulders with her sword. However, when his turn comes, he panics in the excitement of the moment and forgets the Latin. Then, thinking fast, he recites the only other sentence he knows in a foreign language, which he remembers from the Passover seder:

"Ma nishtana ha layla ha zeh mi kol ha laylot."

Puzzled, Her Majesty turns to her advisor and whispers, "Why is this knight different from all other knights?"

157 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:22:59am

re: #156 littleoldlady

Meh, feh, pui and fui?

;-)

/I really hate Passover...

Oy, that joke was old when the Dead Sea was sick.

158 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:23:53am

re: #155 freetoken

Cottage industry! ;-)

My late mother-in-law tells a story about one of talloldman's brothers. Bobby was the only one of the boys who didn't play football or some other sport. They were really worried that his lack of extra-curricular activities showed some kind of weakness of character. One day while cleaning his room my m-i-l discovered a bunch of really beautiful, healthy plants in pots in Bob's room.

I'm so relieved! she said. He finally has an interest in something - HORTICULTURE!

;-)

159 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:27:48am

re: #157 Spare O'Lake

Yes it is! It was told to me by my old friend Sam (z"l) when I was sixteen.

/which was BEFORE the Dead Sea got sick!

160 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:29:11am

Moses was sitting in the Egyptian ghetto. Things were terrible. Pharaoh wouldn't even speak to him. The rest of the Israelites were mad at him and making the overseers even more irritable than usual, etc. He was about ready to give up.

Suddenly a booming, sonorous voice spoke from above:

"You, Moses, heed me ! I have good news, and bad news."

Moses was staggered. The voice continued:

"You, Moses, will lead the People of Israel from bondage. If Pharaoh refuses to release your bonds, I will smite Egypt with a rain of frogs"

"You, Moses, will lead the People of Israel to the Promised Land. If Pharaoh blocks your way, I will smite Egypt with a plague of Locust."

"You, Moses, will lead the People of Israel to freedom and safety. If Pharaoh's army pursues you, I will part the waters of the Red Sea to open your path to the Promised Land."

Moses was stunned. He stammered, "That's... that's fantastic. I can't believe it! --- But what's the bad news?"

"You, Moses, must write the Environmental Impact Statement."

161 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:33:42am

Q: What do you call someone who derives pleasure from the bread of affliction?

A: A matzochist.

Good day, ALL!™

/if you see the Kitchen Cleaning Fairy, tell her she's LATE!

162 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:33:59am

re: #160 littleoldlady

Groan...may a large matzah crumble in your bed!

163 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:35:30am

{littleoldlady}
Have a great day!

Good morning, Lizards!
{Spare O'Lake}

164 gregg  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:39:20am

It's interesting that the response to a Cessna entering U.S. airspace (dispatching two F-16s) is greater than the response to North Korea launching a missile (dispatching some diplomats to the U.N.).

165 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:39:49am

Hash Brownies
Deliciously subversive!

166 axegrinder  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:41:06am

re: #161 littleoldlady

Schadenfreude is even more descriptive.

167 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:46:03am

re: #163 goddessoftheclassroom

Hiya {Teach}!
Got any shiny apples? (channeling Grade 2 in the late '50s)

168 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:50:18am

re: #163 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, goddess. Hope you're well.

169 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:51:06am

re: #168 Sharmuta

Good morning, goddess. Hope you're well.

{Sharmuta}
I'm fine, thanks! How are things with you?

170 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:51:24am

G'mornin' Lizards!
What's cookin'
re: #167 Spare O'Lake

Hiya {Teach}!
Got any shiny apples? (channeling Grade 2 in the late '50s)

You must be a youngin'

171 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:55:49am

re: #163 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

172 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:56:41am

re: #165 Spare O'Lake
I can't see any hash brownies. This is all I get:

—œNçøøøööv0¼qã†P%P%BH0Ôr1´†Óé ‡Ã[[[ÉdòÌ™3Â]zËtttlooÇb±µµµt:½µµUVVÖÚÚ:==]ZZJ> F¿³³Ã[€ª3³üüü%P%"‘ðûý±XL(‚…= -S__Ïn©¬¬ìììÔþçeŽŒŒ$‰ÖÖÖÅÅÅP(”J¥:::oß¾ÍìÐÖÖf&Ç°0K2ý#‘H(ª««348o¨ìbøÈÞ†fÊgT£xkX×:�²Ä¬c8}ú4!dhhˆRÊb¯¬¬ôööB R©ÔÄÄ„^Ú;w�ûÿرc”R¿ßOikkSU•ì¼pá¥T–e>ë“'Oªªª…q>zô¨apiA[³ì¬/ååeaØ°càs1´F}½ÖFtwwSJ].—Þ’‡RÊâËß½{W3igg&sectvKMM ¥T‹Vïv»‡‡‡Ùÿ†–ojjRUµ¶¶¶¼¼

173 Kronocide  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:57:31am

I wonder if Zombie has seen this:

Image: 2638_1066662520579_1646545261_167353_7390105_n.jpg

174 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:58:50am

re: #170 UncleRancher

G'mornin' Lizards!
What's cookin'
You must be a youngin'

There are parts of me that occasionally still feel young.
Other parts, not so much.
*creak*
*squeak*

175 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:00:24am

re: #172 UncleRancher

I can't see any hash brownies. This is all I get:

—œNçøøøööv0¼qã†P%P%BH0Ôr1´†Óé ‡Ã[[[ÉdòÌ™3Â]zËtttlooÇb±µµµt:½µµUVVÖÚÚ:==]ZZJ> F¿³³Ã[€ª3³üüü%P%"‘ðûý±XL(‚…= -S__Ïn©¬¬ìììÔþçeŽŒŒ$‰ÖÖÖÅÅÅP(”J¥:::oß¾ÍìÐÖÖf&Ç°0K2ý#‘H(ª««348o¨ì bøÈÞ†fÊgT£xkX×:�²Ä¬c8}ú4!dhhˆRÊb¯¬¬ôööB R©ÔÄÄ„^Ú�;w��ûÿرc”R¿ßOikkSU•ì¼pá¥T–e>ë“'Oªªª…q>zô¨apiA[³ì¬/�å&a ring;eaØ°càs1´F}½& Ouml;FtwwSJ].—Þ’�‡R&E circ;âËß½{W3igg&sectvKMM ¥T‹Vïv»‡‡&#x20 21;Ùÿ†–ojjRUµ¶ ;¶¶¼¼

Sorry, I ate 'em all!

176 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:00:39am

re: #171 rightside

{goddess}

{rightside}!

177 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:02:07am

I've got to run--have a great day!

178 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:03:18am

re: #175 Spare O'Lake

Sorry, I ate 'em all!

I figured as much. These must have been the crumbs.

...Have a great day yourself Goddess

179 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:04:01am

re: #173 BigPapa

I wonder if Zombie has seen this:

[Link: photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net...]

That's FUNNY

180 NYCHardhat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:04:03am

Good morning lizards,

I am becoming very despondent with the growing number of people that are giving credit to Barack Obama and his administration for not fucking up. For instance, the recent thread about Obama defending the wiretaps and methods for keeping our country safe from teh islamofacist that are determined to destroy it. Isn't that his job? Can I equate that same logic with the mother who brags that she "feeds her kids." You are suppose to do these things you ignorant fool.

As for the bowing of the two POTUS's...American politicians have always been in bed with the Sauds for the only reason that most people know. Oil. Until we are able to combat the leftist nutbags that control the environmental groups that block us from drilling for domestic oil, we will forever be "fuck friends" with the Sauds and their lovely black gold. Its gotten to the point where I think if you didn't see that Obama would take to the status quo on most issues as POTUS than you are fooling yourself. This guy is the same as Bush, but with even more arrogance, more socialism, and more polarization.

In conclusion, most of the people who bash Obama and support Bush are looking through the prism of policy. most of the people who support Obama and bash Bush are looking through the prism of personality.

181 Macker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:04:40am

re: #105 Fenway_Nation

Don't you mean her strap-on tool? GOOD MORNING LIZARDS!

182 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:09:22am

Gotta get my ass in gear.
'Laters, alligators.

183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:11:34am

re: #14 realwest

I wonder if Charles deducts the comments from those he's banned and forever wiped LGF clean of their comments? Wouldn't that screw up the numbers some?
Besides which Charles has said before that he never knows who posts the whatever millionth post for a day or so afterwards!

Only Charles knows the method of the counting...

Hey y'all. Looks like Italy could have been a bunch worse, and it's bad enough.

184 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:13:19am

re: #180 NYCHardhat

I only look through the prism of "what he has done to me, my family, my business and my country so far." Every issue so far has been a negative. There are so many negatives I have lost count. My childrens' fortunes and opportunities have been halved at least twice.

185 NYCHardhat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:17:22am

re: #184 UncleRancher

I only look through the prism of "what he has done to me, my family, my business and my country so far." Every issue so far has been a negative. There are so many negatives I have lost count. My childrens' fortunes and opportunities have been halved at least twice.

That is what I meant about "policy." Give me my low taxes, small government, and hawkish defense. NRA forever.

186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:18:55am

re: #184 UncleRancher

re: #185 NYCHardhat

Don't let ODS take too firm a hold of you.

Don't lose faith in America.

187 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:19:58am

re: #181 Macker

Don't you mean her strap-on tool? GOOD MORNING LIZARDS!

(No, I think he meant what he said)...

188 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:20:02am

Where is the # of comments posted displayed?

I can't find it anywhere.

189 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:20:20am

re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #185 NYCHardhat

Don't let ODS take too firm a hold of you.

Don't lose faith in America.

Never!, and thanks for that.

190 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:20:48am

re: #188 Crux Australis


Upper left sidebar, under statistics

191 NYCHardhat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:21:16am

re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #185 NYCHardhat

Don't let ODS take too firm a hold of you.

Don't lose faith in America.

It's not ODS. It's IBS. /

192 Dar ul Harbarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:21:32am

In this morning's WSJ...speaking truth to the "leader" of the free world.


"And I had an excellent meeting with President Medvedev of Russia to get started that process of reducing our nuclear stockpiles, which will then give us a greater moral authority to say to Iran, don't develop a nuclear weapon; to say to North Korea, don't proliferate nuclear weapons," Mr. Obama said, implying that previous American Presidents had lacked such "authority."

The President went even further in Prague, noting that "as a nuclear power -- as the only nuclear power to have used a nuclear weapon -- the United States has a moral responsibility to act." That barely concealed apology for Hiroshima is an insult to the memory of Harry Truman, who saved a million lives by ending World War II without a bloody invasion of Japan. As for the persuasive power of "moral authority," we should have learned long ago that the concept has no meaning in Pyongyang or Tehran, much less in the rocky hideouts of al Qaeda.

The truth is that Mr. Obama's nuclear vision has reality exactly backward. To the extent that the U.S. has maintained a large and credible nuclear arsenal, it has prevented war, defeated the Soviet Union, shored up our alliances and created an umbrella that persuaded other nations that they don't need a bomb to defend themselves.

Read the rest.

The President is seeing the world reflected in a bunch of fun-house mirrors.
God help us.

193 Erik The Red  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:22:05am

re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #185 NYCHardhat

Don't let ODS take too firm a hold of you.

Don't lose faith in America.


I will never lose faith in the USA. It's the 52% of voters that I have lost all fucking faith in.

194 Erik The Red  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:22:58am

re: #188 Crux Australis

Where is the # of comments posted displayed?

I can't find it anywhere.

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Top of page under Stats. left hand side.

195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:23:20am

re: #193 Erik The Red

I will never lose faith in the USA. It's the 52% of voters that I have lost all fucking faith in.

If, for a second, I thought that 52% would still vote for him, I'd be afraid. Now, I think he'd get (maybe) 40%. Probably lower.

196 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:24:04am

re: #190 rightside

Upper left sidebar, under statistics

Thanks. As my Father would say to me "If it had teeth it would bight ya".

D'uh!

197 3 wood  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:24:59am

Good morning.

Yesterday, the the futures turned sharply negative based on an analysts dire predictions of bank profits for the 1st quarter, and the Dow dropped about 40 points on the day.

Today, that trend looks to continue as the futures are pointed down at the moment.

In the meantime, Geithner continues to threaten bank CEO's and refuses to take TARP money back.

198 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:25:05am

re: #196 Crux Australis

lol, as our instructor trainging taught us, "there are no such things as stupid questions." I won't fill in the rest!

199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:25:06am

re: #196 Crux Australis

Dad from Australia also? That sounds very Australian.

200 3 wood  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:27:58am

re: #192 Dar ul Harbarian

The President is seeing the world reflected in a bunch of fun-house mirrors.
God help us.

I think he is seeing us through the eyes of a communist who hates free enterprise and power.

201 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:28:04am

re: #199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dad from Australia also? That sounds very Australian.

Yes. Although 3 of my Grandparents are from the UK.

202 3 wood  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:28:26am

Got to get ready fro work.

Later.

203 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:29:36am

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If, for a second, I thought that 52% would still vote for him, I'd be afraid. Now, I think he'd get (maybe) 40%. Probably lower.

I think probably lower as well. I personally know at least a dozen who pulled up their -bama yard signs right about the time the market tanked completely and they lost their jobs. About one in ten will never see the correlation between election results and unemployment numbers. You can't help those ones.

204 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:29:56am

re: #202 3 wood

Got to get ready fro work.

Later.

You working in a "black" barbershop?

205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:30:48am

re: #201 Crux Australis

Yes. Although 3 of my Grandparents are from the UK.

Criminal types?
/

206 Dar ul Harbarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:30:52am

I just love this quote from The One:

"Rules must be binding. Violations must be punished. Words must mean something."

If George Bush had said this the press and diplomats would be wailing and gnashing their teeth that W was an out of control war-mongering cowboy, leading the world to another blood bath.

But, because Obama said it (and everyone knows they are just empty words, instead of a prelude to action), he will be hailed as a great statesman.

207 Erik The Red  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:31:40am

re: #201 Crux Australis

Yes. Although 3 of my Grandparents are from the UK.

Did your grandparents volunteer to go there?///

208 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:33:00am

re: #206 Dar ul Harbarian

Despite copiously documenting all that hypocrisy, when confronted with the overwhelming evidence, the left will still say, "what bias?"

209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:33:12am

Sunrise Earth... "Brown bears greet the sun in Katmai National Park in Alaska"...

So much prettier than Matt Lauer.

210 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:37:05am

re: #205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Criminal types?
/

Britain stopped sending convicts in the 1840's or 1850's?. Wrong century.

211 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:37:57am

re: #207 Erik The Red

Did your grandparents volunteer to go there?///

see #210

212 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:41:00am

The last convict sent to the Australian colonies was in 1868.

213 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:45:59am

re: #212 Crux Australis

The last convict sent to the Australian colonies was in 1868.

Uh...you're being so picky. I base everything on generally accepted common knowledge. Accuracy is not important.

214 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:50:10am
215 Erik The Red  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:50:51am

re: #212 Crux Australis

The last convict sent to the Australian colonies was in 1868.

Boobie prize if you can name him or her.

216 Macker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:54:53am

re: #206 Dar ul Harbarian

I just love this quote from The One:

"Rules must be binding. Violations must be punished. Words must mean something."

If George Bush had said this the press and diplomats would be wailing and gnashing their teeth that W was an out of control war-mongering cowboy, leading the world to another blood bath.

But, because Obama said it (and everyone knows they are just empty words, instead of a prelude to action), he will be hailed as a great statesman.

Meanwhile, the UN is just sitting back and laughing their asses off...

217 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:55:09am

re: #215 Erik The Red

Who is not Cliff Claven?

218 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:55:34am

re: #215 Erik The Red

Boobie prize if you can name him or her.

Who? Who?


Youtube Video
219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:01:32am

Common Knowledge Game-show Transcript...SNL

Even funny when you read it.

220 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:01:49am

re: #215 Erik The Red

Boobie prize if you can name him or her.

Sorry, can't help you there.

All I could find out that transportation of convicts to the east coast was abolished in 1853 and Western Australia in 1868.

221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:05:53am

re: #220 Crux Australis

I've been playing this online geography game for a couple of days (I am ashamed how little I know on the subject).

I can not point out a single town in Australia. I have no earthly idea where anything is down there. I am missing everything by 500 or more kilometers.

222 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:09:17am

Laura Ingraham is skewering FCBBHO quite nicely.

223 Canoe Train  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:10:49am

re: #173 BigPapa

Hilarious ! :)

224 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:12:38am

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've been playing this online geography game for a couple of days (I am ashamed how little I know on the subject).

I can not point out a single town in Australia. I have no earthly idea where anything is down there. I am missing everything by 500 or more kilometers.

Do you have a linky?

Don't be too concerned. I only know 3 states reasonably well. the others I have to google or consult a map.

225 Canoe Train  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:12:51am

re: #218 MandyManners

What ? The Little River Band, or the female lead in the video ?

226 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:13:45am

re: #225 Canoe Train

What ? The Little River Band, or the female lead in the video ?

The song!

227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:15:14am

re: #224 Crux Australis

Link...

It repeats a lot, it is necessary. I have missed things by over 15,000 kms.

But, I'm getting better.

Zombie was playing around with this once, said he/she got within 50kms of everything.

Nobody likes a smart-ass Zombie.

228 Macker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:17:21am

re: #216 Macker

Well I'll be danged...that was comment #5,555 for me!

229 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:19:43am

re: #228 Macker

Well I'll be danged...that was comment #5,555 for me!

I dinged you.

230 Canoe Train  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:19:56am

re: #226 MandyManners

"The Night Owl!" circa 1981 ( I think)

231 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:20:08am

Twice.

232 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:21:28am

re: #230 Canoe Train

"The Night Owl!" circa 1981 ( I think)

I love that band.

Youtube Video
233 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:23:23am
234 Hengineer  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:24:43am

The ringer doesn't hold a candle to the Sting.

235 Hengineer  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:27:05am

re: #227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Link...

It repeats a lot, it is necessary. I have missed things by over 15,000 kms.

But, I'm getting better.

Zombie was playing around with this once, said he/she got within 50kms of everything.

Nobody likes a smart-ass Zombie.

Its better than a dumb-ass Zombie.

236 Macker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:27:09am

re: #229 MandyManners

Dinged you right back!

/Yay

237 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:31:48am

re: #235 Hengineer

Its better than a dumb-ass Zombie.

Good point.

238 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:32:07am

Good Morning Lizards!

I would tell you where I am, but apparently I don't have a clue. Thanks for making me feel like a complete idiot FBV. I wasn't even on the right continent for some of those. Disgraceful.

239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:32:35am

re: #238 Ford_Prefect

I dig.

240 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:33:28am

re: #227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Link...

It repeats a lot, it is necessary. I have missed things by over 15,000 kms.

But, I'm getting better.

Zombie was playing around with this once, said he/she got within 50kms of everything.

Nobody likes a smart-ass Zombie.

Thanks. I think I need to work on my geography. I got to the 9th level but my guesses were way off.

241 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:35:45am

Damn, even that geography site is blocked.

242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:35:47am

re: #240 Crux Australis

I've been playing (a lot) over the past two days...never got past 6. Poop!

243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:46:51am

Where'd e'rybody go?

244 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:47:21am

Good morning all. I wonder what disaster awaits us today in this Obamarama world we live in ?

245 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:48:23am

Another great piece from Victor Davis Hanson...

In some sense, the Obama administration will bring a new honesty to European-American relations. For the last eight years, Europeans have had it both ways. Bush took out Saddam Hussein, removed the Taliban from power, hunted terrorists, offered firm security guarantees to the Europeans in their squabbles with the Russians, tried to box in Iran, and ran trade deficits with his free and open trade policies. For his efforts, he was caricatured as a cowboy buffoon by European sophisticates.

But now after welcoming Obama, the Europeans are beginning to discover that they must contend with a new administration to the left of themselves. And as we saw with Obama's recent cavalier treatment of visiting British Prime Gordon Brown — he was given a packet of DVDs, unviewable in Europe, as a going-away gift — Obama doesn't seem convinced of any special relationship with Europe. His interests and priorities lie more in Asia, Latin America and Africa — places that have also been the great sources of immigration to America the last half-century.

So, it will be harder for Europeans to pull off the old two-step of quietly wanting the U.S. to deter threats while loudly deploring our Neanderthal reliance on brute force.

Read the whole thing...it won't take long I promise!

246 CapeCoddah  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:48:53am

Good morning everyone!
Well, I wake up this morning read my local news, and find that our esteemed elected officials here in Taxachusetts have tucked a secret amendment in the states new transportation bill , giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens.
The new TRANSPORTATION bill also taxes the hell out of candy?
This state is a disgrace, but we caught this nightmare before the vote. If this passes, our drivers licenses will be considered flawed at the federal level, and will not be usable for things like ID at airports.
[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]

247 Kronocide  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:49:12am

Sullivan and Kos are over the top laying Poplowski at the feed feet of Fox News and 'anti-Obama forces.' Ironic that they use apocalyptic imagery such as 'anti-Obama forces.'

Poplowski went off because he's nuts first and foremost. After that, hanging out at Stormfront seems to have been a favorite pastime. Nothing like a little Jew hating to get the juices going, much like most of the usual leftist hate sites like Kos.

They should keep pushing this. There's as much hate and heated over the top rhetoric on Kos as there is Stormfront: Kos is more like a Republican/conservative hate site.

248 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:49:24am

The defense establishment carried out a successful test launch of its Arrow II interceptor missile on Tuesday, a system designed to defend against possible ballistic missile attacks by Iran and Syria.


[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Obama hasn't canceled this yet?

249 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:50:00am

re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Where'd e'rybody go?

We are all playing that stupid geography game. Ok, so I am the stupid one, not the game. Very frustrating.

250 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:50:27am

Going to the tax day tea party either in richmond or newport news next week.

Should be awesome!

251 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:50:57am

One thing I noticed is that Obama treated Kevin Rudd the Prime Minister of Australia very well in comparison with the other world leaders. I wonder why?

252 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:53:00am

re: #251 Crux Australis

One thing I noticed is that Obama treated Kevin Rudd the Prime Minister of Australia very well in comparison with the other world leaders. I wonder why?

Isn't that the guy who picks his nose or ear and eats it? maybe that is your answer?

253 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:53:55am

re: #192 Dar ul Harbarian

In this morning's WSJ...speaking truth to the "leader" of the free world.


Read the rest.

The President is seeing the world reflected in a bunch of fun-house mirrors.
God help us.

I'm just wondering when Bill CLinton will be moved to open his mouth about the nonsense the new President is spewing. I think Bubba may take offense to the notion that as president he did NOT have the moral authority to make demands of the mad mullahs and the norks.

254 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:53:58am

re: #246 CapeCoddah

Good morning Cape. From your link:

“We’re just putting our heads in the sand now. We could be verifying who these people are,” Sannicandro said.

Unless that information is going to be used to go and pick these people up and deport them, this is a terrible idea and makes us all less safe.

255 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:54:41am

Good News!

Today, the Colorado state legislature defeated an illegal alien in-state tuition discount bill. Five Democrats crossed over and joined pro-enforcement Republicans to kill the DREAM Act legislation. Open borders lobbyists and local columnists poured on the victim-card propaganda, but taxpayers weren’t buying it. And Democrats are starting to listen.

SNIP

256 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:55:55am

re: #255 rightside

Good News!

SNIP

That is good news, particularly on the heels of CapeCoddah's post.

257 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:56:36am

re: #244 Nevergiveup

Good morning all. I wonder what disaster awaits us today in this Obamarama world we live in ?

Depends on if he sneaks in a side trip to visit the troops or Syria, or comes home as planned. Syria making diplomatic nice
talk.

258 CapeCoddah  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:56:51am

re: #254 Ford_Prefect

Good morning Cape. From your link:

Unless that information is going to be used to go and pick these people up and deport them, this is a terrible idea and makes us all less safe.

Well, one explanation from the rep pushing it is this puzzler... "It will let us know how many illegals are here" but the kicker is the bill prevents the RMV from asking for info concerning immigration status or checking SSN's. That does what exactly to count illegals?

259 CapeCoddah  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 5:58:35am

re: #255 rightside

Good News!

SNIP

AHH, AND I forgot that MAssachusetts wants to give them free tuition at state colleges!

260 soxfan4life  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:00:56am

re: #246 CapeCoddah

This sentence should tell us all we need to know.

The idea has drawn support from both Gov. Deval Patrick and President Obama.

Which means it is bad for most of us.

261 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:02:09am

re: #258 CapeCoddah

That does what exactly to count illegals?

Uh...zilch.

re: #259 CapeCoddah

AHH, AND I forgot that MAssachusetts wants to give them free tuition at state colleges!

Free? Un-friggin-believable. Have you contacted your Reps?

262 soxfan4life  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:02:24am

re: #258 CapeCoddah

Well, one explanation from the rep pushing it is this puzzler... "It will let us know how many illegals are here" but the kicker is the bill prevents the RMV from asking for info concerning immigration status or checking SSN's. That does what exactly to count illegals?

Allows them to vote for Deval Patrick, no other way for him to get reelected.

263 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:03:14am

If you're a Democrat president, and even the San Francisco Chronicle is criticizing you, it may be time to rethink your actions:

'Bailout psychology' destroying the economy

President Obama must stop the bailouts and start the prosecutions. It's time to focus on anti-poverty programs to protect the growing unemployed from hunger and homelessness. Stealth payments to billionaire bondholders must cease immediately.

Since the mid-1970s, average Americans' wages have stayed flat when adjusted for inflation. Productivity rose, profits rose, but not wages. To compensate for stagnant wages and the desire to consume more each year, Americans worked more, retired later, spouses went to work, and many burned savings. Then they started borrowing. Debt became America's growth industry.

The scheme collapsed because Americans' wages weren't sufficient to pay the interest on existing debts. The only way out of this is to tighten our belts and pay down debt, the opposite of what our bank-owned government is advising.

The administration and the banks keep talking about a credit crisis, but there isn't one. Banks are lending. If you want a mortgage and can afford to pay it back, you can borrow at low rates today. You can finance a car at low rates for seven years. But most Americans don't want more debt because it is a debilitating path to poverty. The average American family already pays 14 percent of annual income in interest to banks.

To fix this fake crisis, there are fake discussions about what the government must do. The endlessly recycled plan to buy "troubled" assets isn't to get banks lending again, because they haven't stopped lending. The plan seeks for taxpayers to buy worthless assets at high prices to absorb rich investors' losses. That's it. It keeps coming back as a different plan, but with that same goal. There is no goal beyond that one goal: keep rich people from taking losses.

264 soxfan4life  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:03:25am

re: #259 CapeCoddah

I thought it was in state tuition rates, not free.

265 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:03:35am

re: #259 CapeCoddah

Why doesn't everyone just say they are an illegal alien undocumented worker, get a drivers license that says you are an illegal alien undocumented worker, and then go to school on the taxpayers backs for free?

266 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:06:06am

re: #251 Crux Australis

One thing I noticed is that Obama treated Kevin Rudd the Prime Minister of Australia very well in comparison with the other world leaders. I wonder why?

'Cause he wants Mr. Rudd to teach him to speak Australian, of course.

*Sheesh. Don't nobody here know how to play this game no more?*

267 soxfan4life  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:06:36am

re: #257 avanti

Depends on if he sneaks in a side trip to visit the troops or Syria, or comes home as planned. Syria making diplomatic nice
talk.

Visiting Syria is much higher up on his list than visiting the troops, troop visits will increase as he gets closer to his reelection campaign.

268 yesandno  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:07:14am

re: #206 Dar ul Harbarian

I just love this quote from The One:

"Rules must be binding. Violations must be punished. Words must mean something."

And he will, no doubt, ignore his own statement...

269 soxfan4life  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:08:27am

re: #268 yesandno

Well when the rest of the world leaders ignore him, he won't want to feel left out.

270 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:10:33am

re: #263 gmsc

If you're a Democrat president, and even the San Francisco Chronicle is criticizing you, it may be time to rethink your actions:

'Bailout psychology' destroying the economy

Not really too much of a surprise there. It seems to me that what they are saying is that the moves that have been made are not liberal enough. They want more harm done to the wealthy in order to prop up the poor. They are just disappointed that he isn't going far enough to the left, but in the end they will continue to support him.

271 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:11:09am

Bawney Fwank is a Liar

One of the leading people who caused this finanical mess, is using sleight of hand, and offering only rhetoric to divert attention away from his involvement in it.

Mr Fwank, you are an abject failure. Please resign now, if you have any decency.

272 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:11:14am

Good morning. Anybody here speak Austrian?

273 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:11:38am

Good morning, lizards.

I awake this morning to the sad realization that the American government is no longer a friend to Israel.

274 soxfan4life  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:12:04am

re: #271 rightside

Bawney Fwank is a Liar

One of the leading people who caused this finanical mess, is using sleight of hand, and offering only rhetoric to divert attention away from his involvement in it.

Mr Fwank, you are an abject failure. Please resign now, if you have any decency.


That's the big disqualifier right there.

275 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:12:10am

re: #271 rightside

Bawney Fwank is a Liar

One of the leading people who caused this finanical mess, is using sleight of hand, and offering only rhetoric to divert attention away from his involvement in it.

Mr Fwank, you are an abject failure. Please resign now, if you have any decency.

He won't because he doesn't. Ditto Chris Dodd.

276 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:12:30am

re: #272 ciaospirit

jawohl!

277 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:12:33am

re: #271 rightside

Bawney Fwank is a Liar

One of the leading people who caused this finanical mess, is using sleight of hand, and offering only rhetoric to divert attention away from his involvement in it.

Mr Fwank, you are an abject failure. Please resign now, if you have any decency.

From the link:

Watch the full exchange on the left

Never a truer word!
;)

278 yesandno  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:12:39am

re: #269 soxfan4life

Well when the rest of the world leaders ignore him, he won't want to feel left out.

Oh, he's left allright! Left out in the rain, left handed, left over, speaking out of the left side of his mouth...

Thing is he said one thing somewhere, the opposite somewhere else...so his ass is covered!

279 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:12:46am

re: #257 avanti

Depends on if he sneaks in a side trip to visit the troops or Syria, or comes home as planned. Syria making diplomatic nice
talk.

You mean the way he took time from his busy schedule to visit the wounded troops recuperating in Germany?

Kept it quiet, of course. Wouldn't want to turn the thing into a media circus, after all. It's just that sort of self-effacing modest that makes the gentleman so universally beloved.

280 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:12:55am

re: #273 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards.

I awake this morning to the sad realization that the American government is no longer a friend to Israel.

But the American people, on the whole, are, and will continue to be.

281 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:13:37am

re: #280 Ford_Prefect

But the American people, on the whole, are, and will continue to be.

Unfortunately short of impeachement, there is nothing that the American people can do to change it.

282 soxfan4life  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:14:48am

re: #273 Irish Rose


Hopefully all of those Jewish Liberals who voted for 0bama realize it as well, without some sort of tragedy occuring first.

283 yesandno  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:15:04am

re: #272 ciaospirit

Good morning. Anybody here speak Austrian?

Strudel?

284 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:15:33am

Is it possible that President Obama, who has been known to lie (witness the 2008 campaign) could be lying to some of the people he has recently visited? And is it possible that this otherwise negative trait could actually be an asset in dealing with iran? After all, the mullahs are a bunch of liars and it sometimes takes one to know one. This could be interesting ...

285 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:15:35am

re: #282 soxfan4life

Hopefully all of those Jewish Liberals who voted for 0bama realize it as well, without some sort of tragedy occuring first.

Not likely, they have a long history of eating their own.

286 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:16:27am

re: #272 ciaospirit

Good morning. Anybody here speak Austrian?

No, I speak Oztraaaylian. Why?

287 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:16:56am

Good morning, all...

On the subject of illegals getting in-state tuitions, when I was in my second year as a doctoral student, I was notified by the university that I needed to get resident status (I was from another state) to qualify for in-state tuition, as they would only fund the in-state portion thereafter. So, I went to the Registrar's Office and got the necessary paperwork. There was a list of about 14 things on it, and it indicated that any two would qualify me for residency (plus being in the state for at least one year). I asked if I did the two I had in mind if that would qualify me. They said that if they made a determination that I had entered the state specifically to go to school (which was obviously the case), it didn't matter how many I did, I would not be eligible.

So, I went back the Graduate Office and let them know what I had been told.

A few days later my advisor showed me a memo she had just received stating that for all future Ph.D. students from out-of-state, the university would only cover the in-state portion of their tuition after their first year. But foreign students, being ineligible for in-state status, would be funded at the out-of-state rate for four years.

So, they would support a foreign student first as well as make students lie to the Registrar's Office or get penalized.

As an aside, they funded me as an out-of-state student for four years, but I believe I was the last one so accomodated.

288 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:17:17am

re: #286 Crux Australis

No, I speak Oztraaaylian. Why?

lol

289 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:17:55am

re: #285 Irish Rose

Not likely, they have a long history of eating their own.


some wise up when they get older ...

290 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:18:03am

re: #272 ciaospirit

Good morning. Anybody here speak Austrian?

How about aussiemagpie , she's in Australia?

291 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:21:09am

re: #290 Kenneth

How about aussiemagpie , she's in Australia?

Yes, she lives only about 30 miles from me would you believe.

292 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:21:09am

re: #273 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards.

I awake this morning to the sad realization that the American government is no longer a friend to Israel.

Apparently B Hussein thinks he will be in power forever. And assumes that Islam is not and never will be at war with us.

Obama reached out to Arabs and Muslims in his Ankara address, saying the United States "is not and never will be at war with Islam."

He goes on to tout the two state solution. Apparently he missed all the Pali rallies where they shouted they will never accept a two state solution.

In an interview published Tuesday, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem said Obama's speech "reflects a clear attention toward the two-state solution."

Al-Moallem said Obama's words were "important" and "positive." But he hinted that Arabs expect Washington to pressure the new hard-line Israeli government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to accept the creation of a Palestinian state.

293 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:21:21am

re: #286 Crux Australis

No, I speak Oztraaaylian. Why?

I like that language! Why? Well, for one thing, you can talk to women like this...

40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger

THE bra market is expanding, literally. Up to 40 per cent of Australian women now buy bras with a cup size of DD or higher, new figures from lingerie suppliers show.

In the 1950s, the most common bra-cup size was a B - three sizes less than a DD.

Modern breasts are getting so large that some bra companies have introduced cup sizes as high as K, The Sunday Telegraph reports.

Experts blame the cleavage boost on obesity, contraceptive pills and artificial hormones.

Myer lingerie buyer Kerryn Sawyer said sales of DD-plus bras have grown from about 20 per cent of sales to 28 per cent in just five years.

Many lingerie labels such as Berlei and Triumph are now offering G cups while Fayreform, Freya and Le Mystere are producing select styles up to a size J.

Berlei brand manager Jane Edser said the company's range of bra styles, available in DD-plus, had, increased since 2005 from 75 per cent to 83 per cent, to cater for the growing market.

Youtube Video
294 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:21:38am

Morning all... just caught this story from the NY Daily News...

Unclench...

Iranian nuke plot vaporized in the city: NY banks unwittingly aided in material transfers, says DA

295 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:21:55am

I just watched that video finally of fwank. I feel sorry for you in taxachusetts. My condolences.

296 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:22:16am

The Middle East is a festering hotbed of seeting jealousy, rage, hatred and nukes... and it's explosion is imminent. It's not a matter of if, it's just a matter of when.

May God forgive the Western Jews who turned on their own people, during these dark and difficult days. Their apathy is inexcusible.

297 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:23:14am

re: #293 gmsc

Be back in a few weeks, moving to Oz. ;^)

298 soxfan4life  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:24:19am

re: #295 rightside

I just watched that video finally of fwank. I feel sorry for you in taxachusetts. My condolences.

Barney Frank is a leader in the US House of Reps., he gets to screw all of us equally.

299 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:24:27am

The Nuclear Illusionist
Obama's 'moral authority' won't deter Tehran or Pyongyang.

"Rules must be binding. Violations must be punished. Words must mean something."

So declared President Obama Sunday in Prague regarding North Korea's missile launch, which America's U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice added was a direct violation of U.N. resolutions. At which point, the Security Council spent hours debating its nonresponse, thus proving to nuclear proliferators everywhere that rules aren't binding, violations won't be punished, and words of warning mean nothing.

Rarely has a Presidential speech been so immediately and transparently divorced from reality as Mr. Obama's in Prague. The President delivered a stirring call to banish nuclear weapons at the very moment that North Korea and Iran are bidding to trigger the greatest proliferation breakout in the nuclear age. Mr. Obama also proposed an elaborate new arms-control regime to reduce nuclear weapons, even as both Pyongyang and Tehran are proving that the world's great powers lack the will to enforce current arms-control treaties.

...Mr. Obama recognized this rogue proliferation threat in his Prague address, but to counter it he offered only more treaties of the kind that are already ignored. OK, not merely more treaties. Two days earlier in Strasbourg he also vouchsafed the power of his own moral example.

"And I had an excellent meeting with President Medvedev of Russia to get started that process of reducing our nuclear stockpiles, which will then give us a greater moral authority to say to Iran, don't develop a nuclear weapon; to say to North Korea, don't proliferate nuclear weapons," Mr. Obama said, implying that previous American Presidents had lacked such "authority."

Obama is a dangerous fool.

RTWFT!

300 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:24:28am

re: #290 Kenneth

How about aussiemagpie , she's in Australia?


This didn't appear on any of the MSM that I know of.

OBAMA SAYS HE DOESN’T SPEAK “AUSTRIAN.”

Well, neither do I! Plus this: “George Bush’s critics rightly roasted him for his tortured syntax and waterboarded grammar, and used it to make the claim that the graduate of both Harvard and Yale was an idiot. Well, perhaps, but I don’t recall him ever claiming that Austrian was a language. It takes a highly-esteemed intellect, it seems, to miss the fact that Austrians mainly speak German.”

301 CapeCoddah  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:25:09am

re: #261 Ford_Prefect

Free? Un-friggin-believable. Have you contacted your Reps?

Yes, it is them doing it... they are so smug they shrug off any complaints.

302 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:25:51am

re: #293 gmsc

BTW, do people realize that Colin Hay is a very, very talented musician?

He's very introspective...

303 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:26:13am

re: #290 Kenneth

I think Arnold Schwarzeneger speaks Austrian.

304 albusteve  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:26:20am

re: #294 tfc3rid

Morning all... just caught this story from the NY Daily News...

Unclench...

Iranian nuke plot vaporized in the city: NY banks unwittingly aided in material transfers, says DA

those silly Chinese...when it comes to commies everyone knows the real threat is Cuba

305 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:26:35am

Morning all.

306 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:26:37am

re: #294 tfc3rid

Morning all... just caught this story from the NY Daily News...

Unclench...

Iranian nuke plot vaporized in the city: NY banks unwittingly aided in material transfers, says DA


Wow.

307 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:26:44am

This is third world bullshit. Who the hell is working at these hospitals? This makes my blood boil.

The VA earlier this year warned more than 10,000 veterans to get blood tests because they could have been exposed to contamination while getting colonoscopies in Murfreesboro, Tenn., and Miami.

The endoscopic equipment in question was also used at an ear, nose and throat facility in Augusta, Ga. All three sites failed to properly sterilize the equipment between treatments.

308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:26:44am

re: #303 KenJen

I think Arnold Schwarzeneger speaks Austrian.

"Let's put another shrimp on the barbie!"

309 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:26:57am

re: #304 albusteve

those silly Chinese...when it comes to commies everyone knows the real threat is Cuba

Right, which is why we need to allow trvel back to Cuba to show that we like them...

310 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:27:31am

re: #301 CapeCoddah

Yes, it is them doing it... they are so smug they shrug off any complaints.

I wrote to my three reps a few weeks ago to complain about something and only one of them, Chris Dodd, sent a standard "we will get back to you on that" sort of reply. Nothing else from him or Lieberman or John Larson.

311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:27:34am

re: #306 Irish Rose

Hiya Rose! Take some deep cleansing breaths, dearie.

312 CapeCoddah  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:27:45am

re: #271 rightside

Bawney Fwank is a Liar

One of the leading people who caused this finanical mess, is using sleight of hand, and offering only rhetoric to divert attention away from his involvement in it.

Mr Fwank, you are an abject failure. Please resign now, if you have any decency.

From poster "Reddawn1" in this mornings Boston Herald... I love it...

"If only Barney had kept his Frank out of Freddie Mac's Fannie, we Mae not have ended up in this mess..."

313 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:28:49am

More from LRB.

Youtube Video
314 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:29:04am

re: #312 CapeCoddah

Creepy innuendo, but still an upding!

315 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:29:11am

re: #292 ciaospirit

I don't trust the leftists one bit in regard to the I/P situation. And I really believe that the left wingers are going to start soon with the "Dual Loyalty" charges against any Liberal Jews who dare question the new policies of the administration. The Dems tend to react poorly to anyone who dares leave the reservation. If this takes place, the Republicans need to act aggressively and quickly to convince these Americans that they might want to try a new political brand.

316 Learned Mother of Zion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:29:23am

re: #272 ciaospirit

Good morning. Anybody here speak Austrian?

Wienerschnitzel!
Sachertorte!

317 CapeCoddah  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:29:56am

re: #310 Ford_Prefect

I wrote to my three reps a few weeks ago to complain about something and only one of them, Chris Dodd, sent a standard "we will get back to you on that" sort of reply. Nothing else from him or Lieberman or John Larson.

Contacting my reps just makes me madder when get the replies. It is the smugness I referred to in my last post. I don't know who the hell these people think they are! If I responded to my boss the way they respond to us, I would be homeless and starving.

318 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:31:13am

Okay folks, time to go do my 12 stations for "Holy Week" then out of town for a night. See y'all later.

Rose? I'll pray for you. I hate to hear you sound so despondent.

And, yes...I'll pray for Israel also.

319 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:31:28am

re: #307 ciaospirit

This is third world bullshit. Who the hell is working at these hospitals? This makes my blood boil.

There are several colonoscopy centers here in Las Vegas, all owned by the same person, that had a similar scandal recently.

The local police, with the help of the FBI (as this same person owned colonoscopy centers in different states, but lived in Las Vegas), notified all the area airports to be on the lookout for this guy. He was arrested at McCarran with tickets to Europe in hand.

320 soxfan4life  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:31:49am

re: #307 ciaospirit

This is third world bullshit. Who the hell is working at these hospitals? This makes my blood boil.

With 0bamacare this will become the standard not the exception.:(((

321 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:31:57am
322 CapeCoddah  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:31:59am

re: #305 Lincolntf

Morning all.

morning, Linc!

323 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:32:09am

re: #316 Alouette

Wienerschnitzel!
Sachertorte!

"I'll be Bach."

324 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:32:33am

I rarely take medicine but, my sinuses have brought me to my knees. So, I'm gonna' take this little pill. It'll knock me on my butt.

Have a great day, Lizards!

325 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:32:45am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Manhattan DA is going to be announcing a major indictment later today regarding Iran's nuclear and missile programs. They were getting assistance from several unwitting NY banks, who were conduits for the transactions, which also involved Chinese nationals.

Of course, those involved will claim that these items are dual use materials and aren't meant for the nuclear program, but the fact that all of these materials are involved shows otherwise. Iran wants nukes, and the means to deliver them. They're going to use every available avenue to obtain them.

326 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:33:11am

Hear about the Canadian guy who stole a plane and flew into the U.S., causing a town's evacuation? The story is crazy. It's on Fox News.

327 albusteve  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:33:31am

re: #309 tfc3rid

Right, which is why we need to allow trvel back to Cuba to show that we like them...

I don't know who "we" is...but restricting travel is nonsense

328 CapeCoddah  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:33:33am

Have a good day, everyone.. off to take my boss to a doctors appointment in Boston!

329 Learned Mother of Zion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:33:34am

re: #326 Lincolntf

Hear about the Canadian guy who stole a plane and flew into the U.S., causing a town's evacuation? The story is crazy. It's on Fox News.

That sounds like a South Park episode.

330 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:33:55am

re: #308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Let's put another shrimp on the barbie!"

The word Austrian makes me Hungary.

331 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:34:14am

re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hiya Rose! Take some deep cleansing breaths, dearie.

Sorry, FBV, it doesn't work anymore.

This stuff is starting to keep me up at night... I have a son who is compelled to serve under this man, and I'm terrified of the world that this POS President is going to hand off to my children. It feels like I'm living in a nightmare and can't wake up.

Maybe I just need to shut the damned news off for a few days.

332 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:34:17am

Good morning y'all - from a cold (39 degrees, going all the way up to 48 degrees) and cloudy Charlotte!
GO UNC!
How is everyone this morning?!

333 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:34:24am

re: #326 Lincolntf

Hear about the Canadian guy who stole a plane and flew into the U.S., causing a town's evacuation? The story is crazy. It's on Fox News.

The guy flew into the US and flew over MI, WI, MN< IL and MO...

It was a pretty egregious breach of security...

334 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:35:07am

re: #318 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay folks, time to go do my 12 stations for "Holy Week" then out of town for a night. See y'all later.

Rose? I'll pray for you. I hate to hear you sound so despondent.

And, yes...I'll pray for Israel also.


Thanks.

335 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:35:37am

re: #321 Iron Fist

A co-worker just sent me this. He's Russian, so he doens't have to worry about Political Correctness :-)

My favorite:

Youtube Video
336 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:35:40am

re: #332 realwest
Mornin' RW, it is going to be 70+ here on the east slope of the Cascades today. BTW, the record high was 83 set in 1977.

337 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:36:00am

re: #330 KenJen

The word Austrian makes me Hungary.

Czech please!

338 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:36:23am

re: #329 Alouette

Yeah, apparently the "chase" took 5 hours, crossed multiple states and involved scrambled jets. The stolen plane they showed was a dinky little Piper looking thing. His citizenship/ethnicity is also a little muddled, possibly a "Turkish national"? Not sure what the deal is there.

339 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:36:26am

re: #333 tfc3rid

I heard the keys were in the ignition.

340 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:36:33am

re: #317 CapeCoddah

Contacting my reps just makes me madder when get the replies. It is the smugness I referred to in my last post. I don't know who the hell these people think they are! If I responded to my boss the way they respond to us, I would be homeless and starving.

I wrote to Pat Tiberi about HR1388 (B Hussein's mandatory youth puppets) and he wrote me back thanking me for writing about my concern about illegal immigration.

341 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:37:15am

re: #331 Irish Rose
Good morning Rose - I didn't do it for mental health reasons, but was "off the news" (and that includes LGF) for a couple of days last week and it really did help some! You ought to give it a try - well the news anyway, although LGF can be damned intense itself sometimes.
How's your Marine Corps son doing? Is he due to get a long enough leave to come home for a while any time soon?

342 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:37:22am

re: #339 KenJen

I heard the keys were in the ignition.

He apparently left the keys to his car in the ignition in Canada... Not sure about the plane but I would imagine that the pilots of Cessnas leave their keys or whatever in there... As they are private aircraft...

343 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:37:24am

re: #326 Lincolntf

The story is crazy. It's on Fox News.

You don't need to repeat yourself.
;)

344 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:37:26am

re: #332 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a cold (39 degrees, going all the way up to 48 degrees) and cloudy Charlotte!
GO UNC!
How is everyone this morning?!

Morning Real. OK here. How about you?

345 Spider Mensch  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:37:31am

My wife is from Austria, the language there is a dialect difference from most parts of Germany, as a new Yorker or Bostonian and a person from the deep south may have some trouble understanding each other, so do some Austrians and Germans. and there are some gramatical and spelling differences. But basically they speak german in Austria.

346 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:37:49am
347 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:37:58am
A ritual wouldn’t be much of a ritual if you didn’t feel like you’ve been put through the ringer, would it?


Shouldn't that be "wringer", or am I overlooking a nuance?

Good morning all y'all!

348 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:38:06am

Obama's Unreality Tour

Barack Obama vowed to turn to the U.N. Security Council for strong action following North Korea's weekend missile launch. He would have done better by turning to Dr. Phil.

So, as the good doctor likes to say: Get real. Get real about North Korea. Get real about the U.N. Get real, also, about NATO, arms control, Russia, the global financial system, and every other item headlining the president's unreality tour through the capitals of Europe.

Another bang-on op-ed. Obama is a dangerous fool.

RTWFT!

349 Learned Mother of Zion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:38:07am

re: #345 Spider Mensch

My wife is from Austria, the language there is a dialect difference from most parts of Germany, as a new Yorker or Bostonian and a person from the deep south may have some trouble understanding each other, so do some Austrians and Germans. and there are some gramatical and spelling differences. But basically they speak german in Austria.

I heard that they speak English in Australia.

350 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:38:47am

re: #333 tfc3rid
Well it looks like the Air Force was following him the whole way. Unless that Cessna was packed to the gills with C4, it wasn't going to do a lot of damage. So, the Air Force acted with restraint. Which is amazing, after 9-11 I'm surprised they didn't shoot his dumb ass down!

351 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:39:06am

re: #336 pingjockey
Morning ping! 72 degrees? Hey, WTF is Al Gore doing? Imean Tenn. is gonna be "cold" today too and yet he sends decent weather out to the left coast? What?!

352 Wishing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:39:07am

re: #338 Lincolntf

Yeah, apparently the "chase" took 5 hours, crossed multiple states and involved scrambled jets. The stolen plane they showed was a dinky little Piper looking thing. His citizenship/ethnicity is also a little muddled, possibly a "Turkish national"? Not sure what the deal is there.

Just read up on the guy: He was a Turk, now a citizen of Canada, was despondent, chose death by fighter jet, I guess. He left a goodbye note for his girlfriend, left his car at the airport with the keys in the ignition, stole the plane. They caught him shortly after he landed the plane at a convenience store, drinking a power drink.

353 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:39:08am

re: #349 Alouette

I heard that they speak English in Australia.

Only sort of.

354 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:39:30am

re: #326 Lincolntf

Hear about the Canadian guy who stole a plane and flew into the U.S., causing a town's evacuation? The story is crazy. It's on Fox News.

Wonder how he missed the regulations?
Probably lucky no one was killed!
Or worse!

355 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:39:42am

re: #341 realwest

Good morning Rose - I didn't do it for mental health reasons, but was "off the news" (and that includes LGF) for a couple of days last week and it really did help some! You ought to give it a try - well the news anyway, although LGF can be damned intense itself sometimes.
How's your Marine Corps son doing? Is he due to get a long enough leave to come home for a while any time soon?

Still hanging in limbo regarding his next deployment.
I don't expect that we'll be seeing him again before he goes out.

356 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:39:59am

re: #351 realwest
Well, spring has to show up some time!

357 itellu3times  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:40:05am

re: #307 ciaospirit

This is third world bullshit. Who the hell is working at these hospitals? This makes my blood boil.

Yah, well, this may be egregious, but MRSA is a threat in almost every hospital in the country and it's not because of excessive cleanliness.

358 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:40:10am

I wrote to Rep. Nydia Velazquez and actually received a response... Apparently I wrote regarding the SAVE Act.

Her response:
The SAVE Act creates more problems than it solves. She intends to follow through with her commitment to a comprehensive solution to secure our job market for eligible workers without unduly burdeing employers, employees and job seekers...

In other words, shut up...

359 Spider Mensch  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:40:28am

re: #349 Alouette

I heard that they speak English in Australia.


what do the aborigines speak? i'm sure they have their own language, but the guy in the crocodile dundee movie spoke english too...?

360 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:40:58am

re: #346 Iron Fist

It'd have been understandible if he'd been shot down.

They did not try to shoot him down and from what I heard this morning he wanted them to shoot him down...

361 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:41:24am

re: #344 Ford_Prefect
Hi Ford - I'm doing ok today - just tired, as usual. Oh and cold today as well!
How are you doing my friend?

362 Rednek  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:42:07am

I know how to order a beer in Austrian.

363 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:42:08am

re: #331 Irish Rose

Maybe I just need to shut the damned news off for a few days.


I have tried this (for several months) and it really does help.

364 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:42:12am

Later folks. Y'all try and have a good day.

365 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:42:35am

re: #346 Iron Fist
Good morning Bro' - how are you doing today? You and the GF "bundled up" (wearing light jackets) today?

366 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:43:50am

re: #347 J.D. Good morning {J.D.} - already with the corrections?!? Please - I'm only on my second cuppa - be gentle!

367 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:43:53am

re: #361 realwest

Hi Ford - I'm doing ok today - just tired, as usual. Oh and cold today as well!
How are you doing my friend?

As one of my coworkers would put it "I am on the right side of the grass, so I can't complain."

368 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:44:06am

re: #348 Kenneth

But...but he's throwing meaningful words at lil' Kim. /

369 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:44:17am

re: #332 {realwest}
That was a pretty decisive win, I must say!
Congratulations to UNC.

370 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:44:27am

Mark Steyn was brilliant on Rush yesterday. He called it Obama's Apology Tour and said BO is the world's oldest 13 year old. He called him the "community organizer in chief." Kim Jong-il is laughing at BHO even more than he laughs at his three stooges DVDs. Hilarious stuff.

371 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:44:44am

re: #338 Lincolntf


Mr. Leon, a Turkish-born Canadian citizen, was arrested at a grocery store near Ellsinore, Mo., a small community of about 1,000 people, shortly after the aircraft landed.

"This is kind of uncharted territory for us," said Elmore, adding authorities believe Mr. Leon changed his name from Yavuz Berke.

A U.S. media report said Mr. Leon was apparently treated for depression last Friday . He left his girlfriend a goodbye note and the keys in the ignition of his vehicle at the airport, ABC News reported, quoting information provided to U.S. authorities by Canadian officials.

Hmmm... speculating here, but,... "treated for depression" sounds like he was given an anti-depressant. Any patient taking an SSRI for the first time needs to be followed carefully by their doctor for adverse reactions. The medication could have triggered a manic episode, which would explain doing something as ill-considered as stealing an airplane.

372 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:45:03am

re: #366 realwest

Good morning {J.D.} - already with the corrections?!? Please - I'm only on my second cuppa - be gentle!

I can't help it.
I promise I can't.

So, which is it, do you think?

373 Wishing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:45:16am

re: #365 realwest

Good morning real. Did you get snow? We sure did, and freezing temps again tonight. I am worried about my young trees again!
Al Gore, you suck!

374 Rednek  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:45:17am

So the Chinese are giving Iran through US banks?

I wonder which banks.
I wonder if any of these are owned by the US taxpayer.

375 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:45:49am

re: #374 Rednek

So the Chinese are giving Iran through US banks?

I wonder which banks.
I wonder if any of these are owned by the US taxpayer.

I would not be surprised...

376 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:46:07am

re: #368 KenJen

But...but he's throwing meaningful meaningless words at lil' Kim. /

FTFY!

377 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:46:53am

re: #370 ciaospirit

Kim Jong-il is laughing at BHO even more than he laughs at his three stooges DVDs. Hilarious stuff.


He's ROR.

378 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:47:06am

And it's time for me to say:

Gute nacht
Bon nuit
Beunas noches
Buona notte
kalinichta
Dobroi nochi
Laku noc

That's all I know

Good bye

379 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:47:20am

re: #345 Spider Mensch

My wife is from Austria, the language there is a dialect difference from most parts of Germany, as a new Yorker or Bostonian and a person from the deep south may have some trouble understanding each other, so do some Austrians and Germans. and there are some gramatical and spelling differences. But basically they speak german in Austria.

I know from watching Indiana Jones that Austrians say "good-night" differently from Germans.

380 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:47:35am

How to tell the difference between Australia and Austria:

• If Tanzania is closer, it's Austria. If Tasmania is closer, it's Australia.

• The one with a world-famous opera house is . . . oh, wait, skip that one.

• Try driving across the border. If no one asks for your passport, you're in Australia.

381 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:47:51am

re: #379 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I know from watching Indiana Jones that Austrians say "good-night" differently from Germans.

HA HA Great one!

382 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:47:55am

Thanks for the links.
Strange story all around.

383 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:48:26am

just in: Obama makes surprise stop in Iraq.

384 WoodstockDave  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:48:36am

The Obama administration doesn't want to release the FAA's bird strike data? They don't want to release information on the gifts given to foreign leaders?

Why is this administration so seeecretive?

385 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:48:37am

re: #382 Lincolntf

Thanks for the links.
Strange story all around.

Yes, a very bizarre story... I think it is underreported...

386 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:48:40am

re: #370 ciaospirit

I love Mark Steyn. Someone should give him his own radio show if he doesn't already have one.

387 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:48:42am
388 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:48:55am

re: #384 WoodstockDave

The Obama administration doesn't want to release the FAA's bird strike data? They don't want to release information on the gifts given to foreign leaders?

Why is this administration so seeecretive?

Most transparaent administration ever!

389 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:49:05am

re: #348 Kenneth Good morning Kenneth! I loved this (from your link):

Then again, on the pivotal question of Afghanistan, where it is often said that the future of NATO stands or falls, European members agreed to deploy a mere 5,000 additional troops, most of whom will be back following Afghan elections in August. So much, then, for the pretense that the reason the U.S. had previously failed to get better cooperation and support from Europe was that George W. Bush was president and Guantanamo wasn't being shut down.

In fact, the Europeans (minus Britain) are looking for the out-door from Afghanistan. As perhaps they should: No country should ask its soldiers to risk their lives in a faraway place for what amounts to an act of political symbolism.

Then again, no U.S. president should hazard America's security for political symbolism, either. That's just what Mr. Obama proposed in his Prague speech, calling for an arms control treaty with Russia, the ratification of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, and another treaty to end the production of weapons-grade nuclear material. "As the only nuclear power to have used a nuclear weapon," said the president, "the United States has a moral responsibility to act."

Now there's a line to linger over. Implicitly, it suggests that the nuclear challenges we now face from North Korea and Iran all stem from America's original sin of using atomic bombs to bring World War II to the swiftest possible conclusion. Never mind the estimated one million American and Japanese lives saved as result, or the peace kept and the prosperity built for six decades thereafter under the U.S. nuclear umbrella.

It's also worth considering just what a new round of arms control is meant to accomplish. In his speech, Mr. Obama painted it as a matter of setting an example to the wider world.

But as the journalist Walter Lippmann observed in 1943, the disarmament movement of the interwar years only proved "tragically successful in disarming the nations that believed in disarmament."


I keep thinking that we'll wake up from this damn dream soon, but I've been feeling that way since, oh, January 20th and the dream ain't over yet!
And how are things on the home front for you?

390 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:49:11am

re: #380 gmsc

How to tell the difference between Australia and Austria:

• If Tanzania is closer, it's Austria. If Tasmania is closer, it's Australia.

• The one with a world-famous opera house is . . . oh, wait, skip that one.

• Try driving across the border. If no one asks for your passport, you're in Australia.

We had a client from Austria purchase some items from us, the shipper he contracted shipped them to Australia instead. We no longer do business with that shipping firm.

391 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:49:24am

re: #350 pingjockey

Well it looks like the Air Force was following him the whole way. Unless that Cessna was packed to the gills with C4, it wasn't going to do a lot of damage. So, the Air Force acted with restraint. Which is amazing, after 9-11 I'm surprised they didn't shoot his dumb ass down!

Drudge links to an ABC article that says he wanted to be shot down.

Lotsa fame and glory and nutcase stuff coming out of their hiding places lately.

392 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:49:24am

re: #379 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I know from watching Indiana Jones that Austrians say "good-night" differently from Germans.

I like the Austrian way better.

(BTW, it's "goodbye" not "good night".)

393 badger1970  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:49:34am

re: #370 ciaospirit

Look at the bright side, bo is more scared and regards the spineless Republicans more of a danger, threat, enemy than he does the North Koreans or Iran. Other than that, why worry?

394 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:49:37am

Canadian arrested in Somalia allegedly member of Islamist militia


A Canadian has been arrested in Somalia for allegedly planning to bomb leaders of a moderate political faction, according to local media reports that identified him as a member of the militant group Al-Shabab.

Abdifatah Mohamad Ibrahim appeared in court yesterday in the central Galgudud region, where authorities showed his Canadian passport to spectators.

...Al-Shabab, which means "youth," is an armed Islamist group that is often compared to the Taliban. It is suspected of links to al-Qaeda. A handful of Canadians have traveled to Somalia to fight with the armed Islamists. One of them, Abdullah Ali Afrah, formerly of Toronto, was killed last summer while leading an ambush.

Canada is home to about 150,000 ethnic Somalis, according to a report by Canada's Integrated Threat Assessment Centre. Most are moderates but the report says that, "Some Somali-Canadians have fought as Islamist extremists in Somalia."

395 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:49:40am

re: #300 ciaospirit

You know what the MSM will do - either ignore it, or claim, "He meant to say German - he just misspoke".

396 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:50:09am

re: #353 Ford_Prefect
Hey Ford! They don't speak English in England!

397 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:50:16am

re: #386 KenJen

I love Mark Steyn. Someone should give him his own radio show if he doesn't already have one.

I got to see him live last year - he's even better in person!

398 badger1970  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:50:36am

re: #395 Ward Cleaver

I am a jelly doughnut. -St. JFK

399 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:50:46am

re: #386 KenJen

I love Mark Steyn. Someone should give him his own radio show if he doesn't already have one.

Someone should give him his citizenship papers. He's been waiting for over 10 years ...

400 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:51:33am

re: #396 realwest

Hey Ford! They don't speak English in England!

Sure they do - they call an elevator a "lift", a flashlight a "torch," botulism "steak & kidney pie"...

401 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:51:54am

re: #355 Irish Rose Damn, sorry to hear that Rose. Next time you communicate with him, please, once again, convery our thanks to him for his service to our nation.

402 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:51:56am

re: #398 badger1970

I am a jelly doughnut. -St. JFK

So, the "JF" is for "jelly-filled"?

403 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:52:12am

Speaking at a youth town hall in Turkey.

The questions for Obama at the town-hall meeting were polite and rarely bracing, though one student asked whether there was any real difference between his White House and the Bush administration. Obama cautioned that while he had great differences with Bush over issues such as Iraq and climate change, it takes time to change a nation as big as the United States.

"Moving the ship of state is a slow process," he said.

The Turkish stop capped an eight-day European trip that senior adviser David Axelrod called "enormously productive" — including an economic crisis summit in London and a NATO conclave in France and Germany.

Axelrod said specific benefits might be a while in coming. "You plant, you cultivate, you harvest," he told reporters. "Over time, the seeds that were planted here are going to be very, very valuable."

Picking up on his consultant's theme later, Obama told the college students he sees nothing wrong with setting his sights high on goals such as mending relations with Iran and eliminating the world of nuclear options — two cornerstone issues of his trip.

"Some people say that maybe I'm being too idealistic," Obama said. "But if we don't try, if we don't reach high, then we won't make any progress."

404 Crux Australis  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:53:10am

re: #380 gmsc

How to tell the difference between Australia and Austria:

• Try driving across the border. If no one asks for your passport, you're in Australia.

That's right. And you will end up in the ocean as well. lol

405 rawmuse  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:53:30am

Good morning, Lizards.
We have another shoe thrower.

406 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:53:37am

6,996,901 messages - 3,099 to go!

407 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:54:13am

re: #358 tfc3rid Hey there! Save that letter - I hear she limits her staff to no more than 1,000 replies to constituents a year! And while 1,000 replies seems like a lot, how may folks does she "represent" (not including herself and her family, I mean!)?

408 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:54:48am

re: #404 Crux Australis

That's right. And you will end up in the ocean as well. lol

So, you're saying they should keep the windows up?

409 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:55:16am

re: #389 realwest

Yes, the two op-eds point to the same problem: Obama's dangerously naive detachment from reality. He may have charmed Europe's polyannas, but the thugs in Moscow, Tehran & NoKo are listening too, and they probably have a more accurate measure of the man. His foreign policy is not just misguided, it's dangerously wrong.

On the home front things are looking a little bit better thanks. I have a meeting at the hospital this evening with M's doctor.

I hope you're feeling alright today.

410 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:55:25am

re: #403 ciaospirit

The way he speaks you would think that no other US President has ever had any discussions with the leaders of other nations. This is all historic. Every time he opens his mouth he is making history. Unfortunately being historic is not always good. In this case I believe we are witnessing a historically bad Presidential term.

411 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:55:58am

re: #367 Ford_Prefect
Actually it'd be kinda hard to complain if you "woke up" on the wrong side of the grass! (h/t Obi wan)!

412 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:56:04am

re: #405 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards.
We have another shoe thrower.

What a heel.

413 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:56:33am

re: #407 realwest

Hey there! Save that letter - I hear she limits her staff to no more than 1,000 replies to constituents a year! And while 1,000 replies seems like a lot, how may folks does she "represent" (not including herself and her family, I mean!)?

Couple of hundred thousand...

She and I have had on going debates via correspondence... I am working on my 'Republican Response'.

414 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:56:41am

re: #399 jwb7605

Someone should give him his citizenship papers. He's been waiting for over 10 years ...

Good luck getting it now with O in control. Ten years worth of paperwork has probably gone up in flames.

415 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:57:36am
Obama told the college students he sees nothing wrong with setting his sights high on goals such as mending relations with Iran

Never going to happen.

416 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:57:41am

re: #372 J.D.
I dibs both! (tryin' to be safe here!).

417 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:57:51am

re: #414 KenJen

Good luck getting it now with O in control. Ten years worth of paperwork has probably gone up in flames.

He can always bunk with Aunt Zetunia...

418 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:57:55am

re: #410 Ford_Prefect

The way he speaks you would think that no other US President has ever had any discussions with the leaders of other nations. This is all historic. Every time he opens his mouth he is making history. Unfortunately being historic is not always good. In this case I believe we are witnessing a historically bad Presidential term.

I'm sure when Obama visits Africa he will say that America has long ignored the problem of AIDS in Africa and we are committed to sending $$ for research and prevention...

When of course, George W. Bush did more to help Africa than any other nation and US President ever.

419 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:58:10am

re: #405 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards.
We have another shoe thrower.

New Olympic sport?

420 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:58:27am

re: #373 Wishing Nope no snow, but it was cold enough last night that we'd a had a couple of inches if there was any precip at all!

421 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:58:45am

re: #415 Irish Rose

Never going to happen.

It is hard to mend a fence when your neighbor keeps knocking it down.

422 Spider Mensch  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:59:12am

re: #409 Kenneth

Yes, the two op-eds point to the same problem: Obama's dangerously naive detachment from reality. He may have charmed Europe's polyannas, but the thugs in Moscow, Tehran & NoKo are listening too, and they probably have a more accurate measure of the man. His foreign policy is not just misguided, it's dangerously wrong.

you know old Puty Putin is salivating over oblama's rose colored glasses view on things...I'm sure he and the rest of the ex kgb crew are practically giddy!

423 Wishing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:59:13am

re: #418 tfc3rid

I'm sure when Obama visits Africa he will say that America has long ignored the problem of AIDS in Africa and we are committed to sending $$ for research and prevention...

When of course, George W. Bush did more to help Africa than any other nation and US President ever.

Actually, just yesterday I saw an article saying what good work Bush did in Africa. Will try to find link.

424 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:59:33am

re: #378 Crux Australis
HEY! No "good night"?!

425 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:59:44am

re: #410 Ford_Prefect

The way he speaks you would think that no other US President has ever had any discussions with the leaders of other nations.

I think the same thing every time I hear him. It's all about him. And he uses the straw man over and over again. "Some people say" or "they say" and he never gives examples. Look how "they" are picking on me!

426 albusteve  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 6:59:51am

re: #415 Irish Rose

Never going to happen.

his ridiculous idealism is perfect for the college set...those are his droolers

427 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:00:00am
428 Wishing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:00:29am

Bush Saved Lives in Africa

429 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:00:54am

re: #425 ciaospirit

I think the same thing every time I hear him. It's all about him. And he uses the straw man over and over again. "Some people say" or "they say" and he never gives examples. Look how "they" are picking on me!

'Let me be clear, that some people say I'm a fraud... Well those people are wrong...'

430 rawmuse  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:01:10am

Obama sez Islam has "shaped the USA"
Other than the skyline of Manhattan, what is he talking about?

431 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:01:22am

Good morning. Or, guten morgen, as they say in Austrian.

432 Silhouette  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:01:23am

re: #410 Ford_Prefect

The way he speaks you would think that no other US President has ever had any discussions with the leaders of other nations. This is all historic. Every time he opens his mouth he is making history. Unfortunately being historic is not always good. In this case I believe we are witnessing a historically bad Presidential term.

I love calling people on what exactly is "historic" when they use that word. Without variation, they are always saying, "He's black!"

433 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:01:57am

re: #428 Wishing

Bush Saved Lives in Africa

That is an excellent article... Needs to be picked up mainstream before Obama claims it as his own...

434 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:02:25am

re: #432 Silhouette

I love calling people on what exactly is "historic" when they use that word. Without variation, they are always saying, "He's black!"

Which is very condescending in my opinion.

435 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:02:36am

re: #430 rawmuse

Obama sez Islam has "shaped the USA"
Other than the skyline of Manhattan, what is he talking about?

Oh it has sure shaped the USA... The skyline, our war status, etc... It's done wonders...

437 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:02:43am

BREAKING: OBAMA MAKES SURPRISE STOP IN BAGHDAD

438 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:02:52am

re: #433 tfc3rid

That is an excellent article... Needs to be picked up mainstream before Obama claims it as his own...

... and he will...

439 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:02:54am

The "featured speaker" at a meeting I attended a meeting yesterday may have been Walter in disguise (only partially kidding, here).

He said he spent a portion of last week in Washington D.C. as a 'negotiator' between the Government and AIG heads.

His take was basically that the heads of AIG weren't qualified enough to answer the phones at the company and he did not meet a politician in Washington (R or D) that was representing the people.

He believes some serious changes are in store for the country.
He also said "This whole mess is your fault. My fault. We are the ones that let this happen, and we are the ones who should have been watching things. Our generation let the country down."

The guy is 63 years old, and I tend to agree with him.

440 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:02:56am

Good morning Lizards. I am a bit confused, BHO is parading all over Turkey trumpeting his name, Muslim family members & his time in Indonesia.
I recall that during the campaign , using his middle name was considered racist. People did not even want to suggest that he could spell Islam.
I think that I might lack nuance.

441 albusteve  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:02:58am

re: #430 rawmuse

Obama sez Islam has "shaped the USA"
Other than the skyline of Manhattan, what is he talking about?

nobody knows and no one will ask...I think this misleading lie is dangerous

442 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:03:02am

re: #400 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey ROFL! And do they ever love their curry! Maybe as an antidote to their steak and kidney pie!

443 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:03:19am

re: #437 gmsc

BREAKING: OBAMA MAKES SURPRISE STOP IN BAGHDAD

I was hoping he would...

444 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:03:23am

re: #430 rawmuse

Obama sez Islam has "shaped the USA"
Other than the skyline of Manhattan, what is he talking about?

Oh, come on now... think of US history. Plymouth Magic Space Rock and our Shahid forefathers? The thirteen original ummahs?

445 WoodstockDave  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:03:56am

re: #398 badger1970

Quick...name one accomplishment of the revered JFK administration!

446 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:04:12am

re: #437 gmsc

BREAKING: OBAMA MAKES SURPRISE STOP IN BAGHDAD

But does he speak any Baghdadi?

447 gringo69  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:04:34am

re: #430 rawmuse

I am gonna have to turn off all news and internet. This guy can't say enough good things about islam. What about Christianity, Mr. Talk Loud and carry a weak stick.

448 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:04:37am

re: #446 Occasional Reader

But does he speak any Baghdadi?

I think he knows how to apologize though...

449 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:04:54am

re: #446 Occasional Reader

But does he speak any Baghdadi?

He speaks Iraqi.

450 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:04:58am

re: #437 gmsc

Is the surprise is that he care enough about the troops to visit?

451 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:05:08am

re: #405 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards.
We have another shoe thrower.

Soon after, Singh told TV news reporters that he regretted throwing the shoe but he felt Chidambaram was dodging the question.

452 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:05:25am

Reality hits Obama Express

President Barack Obama, after a lightning-quick start for his agenda on Capitol Hill, is bracing for a much slower pace and big changes in his proposals as early urgency and excitement give way to the more languid rhythms that are the norm for Congress.

Officials are most pessimistic about his energy and global warming plan, with many aides doubting he will win passage of a cap-and-trade emissions reduction system, which is strongly opposed by business and Republicans.

The White House is most optimistic for passage this year of his plans to overhaul the nation’s financial regulations, and aides also see a strong chance that a gradual version of his health care overhaul will get through Congress this fall.

Congressional and administration aides agree that none of his three biggest agenda items is likely to achieve final passage before this fall.

The officials said none of this is catching them by surprise: Obama knew Congress has limited bandwidth, and he simply wanted to get the wheels of government turning on every big issue this year. A big part of their communication strategy will now focus on highlighting incremental progress on the Obama agenda, to show people Washington is working again.


Minor correction to that last paragraph:

Obama knew Congress has limited bandwidth, and he simply wanted to get the wheels of big government turning on every big issue this year.

453 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:05:26am

After Iraq, perhaps he will make a surprise trip to Tehran, then Damascus...

I wonder if he will make a surprise stop in Tel Aviv?

454 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:05:27am

re: #437 gmsc

BREAKING: OBAMA MAKES SURPRISE STOP IN BAGHDAD

I hope that our soldiers there - the ones whose good work our worthless CIC has been badmouthing all over Europe for the last few days - give him the collective cold shoulder and make him eat his damned dinner alone.

455 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:05:28am

re: #417 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Which reminds me of something... I'm a bit surprised that both Obama's aunt and his half-siblings overseas (I don't know how many he has, but at least a couple) haven't gotten some sort of waiver in the immigration process. Frankly, I would be one of the people who would defend Obama from the obvious charges of influence-wielding. It's unseemly that the President has to worry about his relatives being deported or having other relatives living in Third World countries. Not to mention how screwed by life's lottery all of Obama's sibs must feel. He's President of the United States, they don't have running water.
Even if they have to jinn up a "security concern" or something to justify any departure from procedures, I'll suspend my disbelief and let it slide.

456 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:05:45am

re: #447 gringo69

Mr. Talk Loud and carry a weak stick.

Perfect!

457 albusteve  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:05:55am

re: #443 tfc3rid

I was hoping he would...

he'll step in the shit there too...Iraq is one place he should stay the hell away from and refrain from speaking about it til he has to...his troops could care less if he shows up...he has no business there

458 Silhouette  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:06:08am

re: #448 tfc3rid

I think he knows how to apologize though...

That's the difference between he and I. The only vital thing I figure I need to know in other languages is how to ask where the bathroom is. Obama, he learns to say "I'm sorry" in 215 languages and dialects.

459 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:06:10am

re: #450 Kenneth

Is the surprise is that he care enough about the troops to visit?

Who said anything about visiting troops?
;)

460 Wishing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:06:11am

re: #445 WoodstockDave

Quick...name one accomplishment of the revered JFK administration!

The Warren Commission?
/

461 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:06:22am

Great. Obama is visiting Baghdad. Will he now claim that we've won and take the credit for the policy changes made by the Bush Administration paving the way to a peaceful transition and allowing the US to begin contemplating reducing troops?

I'm also curious how he will be received by the troops there. Somehow, I don't think the troops are going to be nearly as excited as they were when Bush visited.

462 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:06:32am

re: #445 WoodstockDave

Quick...name one accomplishment of the revered JFK administration!

Vietnam.

463 albusteve  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:06:46am

re: #445 WoodstockDave

Quick...name one accomplishment of the revered JFK administration!

that's a trick question
/

464 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:06:57am

re: #440 opnion

& his time in Indonesia.

It's of no consequence that he was about eight years old. Unless you're talking about Bill Ayers, then he was ONLY eight years old.

465 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:07:30am

re: #454 Irish Rose

I hope that our soldiers there - the ones whose good work our worthless CIC has been badmouthing all over Europe for the last few days - give him the collective cold shoulder and make him eat his damned dinner alone.

I've missed stories about him badmouthing the Iraq mission during his Europe tour. What did he say?

466 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:07:35am

re: #439 jwb7605

The "featured speaker" at a meeting I attended a meeting yesterday may have been Walter in disguise (only partially kidding, here).

He said he spent a portion of last week in Washington D.C. as a 'negotiator' between the Government and AIG heads.

His take was basically that the heads of AIG weren't qualified enough to answer the phones at the company and he did not meet a politician in Washington (R or D) that was representing the people.

He believes some serious changes are in store for the country.
He also said "This whole mess is your fault. My fault. We are the ones that let this happen, and we are the ones who should have been watching things. Our generation let the country down."

The guy is 63 years old, and I tend to agree with him.

Yep, that was me.

467 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:07:48am

Obama jumps at big scary noise of the gun salute during reception in Turkey.

468 Silhouette  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:08:02am

re: #445 WoodstockDave

Quick...name one accomplishment of the revered JFK administration!

First thoughts is my head are Bay of Pigs, NASA, and the Peace Corps

469 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:08:15am

re: #409 Kenneth I'm doing ok thanks - good luck with that meeting with M's doctor - and remember, e-mail is available 24/7!

470 VioletTiger  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:08:19am

re: #440 opnion

Good morning Lizards. I am a bit confused, BHO is parading all over Turkey trumpeting his name, Muslim family members & his time in Indonesia.
I recall that during the campaign , using his middle name was considered racist. People did not even want to suggest that he could spell Islam.
I think that I might lack nuance.

Barry takes advantage of any advantage, in this case his name. What ever is convenient for the situation.

471 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:08:50am

re: #459 gmsc

Who said anything about visiting troops?
;)

He'll be pinning on some metals, and meeting with the US Generals according to Fox.

472 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:09:01am

Where shall we go for experts?

Who will be so kind as to enlighten those still in darkness?

If those who have studied, and reflected, and contemplated, and prayed, and consulted the oracles get it so wrong...well, what hope have we?

I made the mistake of listening to pingjockey, hoosierhoops, and the like.

MSU is unstoppable, they said. Gonna be a beatdown. Bring some life back to a dying state. Make up for the demise of the Big Three. No hope for any opponent.

And that was pretty much the way it went, for a while.

But then the blasted referee threw the ball up for tipoff, and it all came tumbling down.

Ah, well. Such is life, I suppose.

473 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:09:07am

re: #443 tfc3rid

I was hoping he would...

I hope his security detail is on the look out for flying shoes.

474 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:09:12am

re: #412 Ford_Prefect
A heel? Maybe. But he sure had Soul!

475 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:09:14am

re: #470 VioletTiger

Barry takes advantage of any advantage, in this case his name. What ever is convenient for the situation.

I find it interesting that he goes to Turkey and trumpets Hussein as a Muslim name when we have been told it's nothing of the sort...

Curious, that's all...

476 gringo69  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:09:22am

Will he declare victory or will he apologize for the failed policies of Bush?

477 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:09:37am

re: #471 avanti

He'll be pinning on some metals, and meeting with the US Generals according to Fox.

What kind of metals? Tungsten? Aluminum? Silver?

478 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:09:54am

re: #425 ciaospirit

I think the same thing every time I hear him. It's all about him. And he uses the straw man over and over again. "Some people say" or "they say" and he never gives examples. Look how "they" are picking on me!

For a really hilarious take on Obama's non-teleprompter speaking, see this.

479 VioletTiger  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:10:17am

re: #475 tfc3rid

I find it interesting that he goes to Turkey and trumpets Hussein as a Muslim name when we have been told it's nothing of the sort...

Curious, that's all...

It's just another pander from the Panderer in Chief.

480 gringo69  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:10:36am

re: #467 Kenneth

That's funny!

481 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:10:37am

re: #477 gmsc

What kind of metals? Tungsten? Aluminum? Silver?

Make that medals.

482 WoodstockDave  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:10:47am

Remember how the libtards criticized "coward Bush" for not announcing his visits to Iraq?

483 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:10:51am

John Bolton on "the thoughts rambling around inside the presidential brain"...

Youtube Video
484 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:11:19am

re: #466 Walter L. Newton

Yep, that was me.

{ Walter! }
I'm serious. This guy could have been you.
I spoke to him personally after the meeting ... turns out we grew up about 20 miles apart in northeastern Nebraska.

I told him that it was not the most uplifting and inspiring speech I'd heard over the last year, but it was definitely the most sensible thing I'd heard, and it made me miss the simple truths and principles I grew up with.

485 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:11:20am

re: #425 ciaospirit

I think the same thing every time I hear him. It's all about him. And he uses the straw man over and over again. "Some people say" or "they say" and he never gives examples. Look how "they" are picking on me!


Yup, absolute, classic Narcissist!
How are you ciaospirit?

486 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:11:48am

Gotta LOVE the BBC.

A Pali tries to run over some Israeli police who were demolishing the home of the first Bulldozer terrorist. (As a side note, it is interesting that this takes place over a year later, thanks to LEGAL delays. Israeli courts entertained appeals by Palestinians and decided to approve the demolition anyway, but it just goes to further exemplify the democratic nature of the country).

So, Pali attempts to run over some police, the officers defended themselves, getting out of the way and opening fire, the driver was wounded and killed.

What does the BBC report?

Police kill Palestinian motorist

and from Israellycool, this appears to be an edit from the earlier headline of Palestinian killed in demolition.

Another side note: I was having conversations with a jewish girl recently about Operation Cast Lead. She claimed to have never before been so ashamed of Israel and the IDF, and that this whole operation had disillusioned her so much. Eventually, it came to light that her only source of info for the whole war was the BBC. Is it any wonder?

487 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:11:52am

re: #482 WoodstockDave

Remember how the libtards criticized "coward Bush" for not announcing his visits to Iraq?

Yeah, especially his cowardly trip Thanksgiving of 2002 when he had to fly in covertly under the cover of darkness...

/

488 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:11:55am

re: #469 realwest

Thanks.

489 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:11:55am

re: #482 WoodstockDave

Remember how the libtards criticized "coward Bush" for not announcing his visits to Iraq?

They were idiots if they did. Security is not a political issue.

490 WoodstockDave  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:12:05am

re: #468 Silhouette

Don't forget tax cuts for the evil rich.

491 Wishing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:12:18am

It is global warming in NE TN right now. What happened to spring?

492 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:12:25am

re: #405 rawmuse

Singh, dressed in an olive-green shirt and a white turban, then threw his blue and white sneaker


Not a good combo, imho.

493 Silhouette  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:12:45am

re: #482 WoodstockDave

Remember how the libtards criticized "coward Bush" for not announcing his visits to Iraq?

And he was just doing it as an empty PR gesture, and they questioned the timing, and he didn't go out on patrol but stayed at base, etc.

494 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:12:56am

re: #491 Wishing

It is global warming in NE TN right now. What happened to spring?

Now is the Winter of our discontent...

And the Winter that will never end...

495 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:13:24am

re: #467 Kenneth

He has never heard a gun shot!
Or ...held a gun...
or wanted a gun...
Oh ...I take that back ...He wants ..OUR GUNS!

496 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:13:39am

re: #467 Kenneth

Obama jumps at big scary noise of the gun salute during reception in Turkey.

Eh.

He kind of flinches slightly. I'll pass on this one.

497 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:13:39am

re: #484 jwb7605

{ Walter! }
I'm serious. This guy could have been you.
I spoke to him personally after the meeting ... turns out we grew up about 20 miles apart in northeastern Nebraska.

I told him that it was not the most uplifting and inspiring speech I'd heard over the last year, but it was definitely the most sensible thing I'd heard, and it made me miss the simple truths and principles I grew up with.

Well, if you me "me" as in the my avatar, I look nothing like that. I was over 350 pounds in that picture, the beard and all, hair color (I'm blond) was all for a role in a show, and I don't normally dress like that.

I'm under 200 pounds, no facial hair and blond, and hair over the shoulders.

But, the guy does sound like he thinks a bit the way I do.

498 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:13:49am

re: #430 rawmuse
Good morning rawmuse - well he COULD be talking about how Islam has shaped hatred of Muslims in the USA, although that's a) not true and b) where he's concerned a) doesn't matter anyway!

499 albusteve  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:14:17am

re: #492 J.D.

Not a good combo, imho.

why?...blue and white seem to work well together

500 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:14:42am

re: #431 Occasional Reader
Hey O.R.! Throw one on the barbie as they say in Australian!
How are you today?

501 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:15:02am

re: #453 tfc3rid

After Iraq, perhaps he will make a surprise trip to Tehran, then Damascus...

I wonder if he will make a surprise stop in Tel Aviv?

After the Arabs take over.

BTW, the Saudi "Peaceful plan for the elimination of Israel" has item 4: "Assures the rejection of all forms of Palestinian patriation which conflict with the special circumstances of the Arab host countries."
In other words, no Arab country will take them, but under the plan, Israel has to.

502 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:15:03am

re: #497 Walter L. Newton

(I'm blond)

Is it true you people have more fun?

503 Silhouette  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:15:20am

re: #491 Wishing

It is global warming in NE TN right now. What happened to spring?

We had a Knoxville blizzard this morning. Four or five flakes of snow. So the kiddies made me check if school was closed. Ah, youthful optimism.

504 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:15:38am

re: #500 realwest

Hey O.R.! Throw one on the barbie as they say in Australian!
How are you today?

Hangin' in there. Gainfully employed, which is a good thing these days.

505 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:15:44am

re: #464 ciaospirit

It's of no consequence that he was about eight years old. Unless you're talking about Bill Ayers, then he was ONLY eight years old.

This New World Order is difficult to understand.
He tells the Turks that we do not consider ourselves a Christiian country.
Of what business should it be to Turkey, a country drifting away from Secularism to an Islamic Republic?
He is over there pandring to the entire Ummah & IMO doing much more harm than good.

506 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:15:53am

re: #497 Walter L. Newton

I thought you looked pretty good in that picture...

507 Wishing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:16:21am

re: #503 Silhouette

We had a Knoxville blizzard this morning. Four or five flakes of snow. So the kiddies made me check if school was closed. Ah, youthful optimism.

Whatever snow you didn't get is now falling here. Thanks a lot!

508 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:16:28am

re: #437 gmsc
BREAKING: They let Obama stop in Baghdad!

509 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:16:30am

re: #502 Occasional Reader

Is it true you people have more fun?

A dozen answers quickly flashed through my car file in my head, and I think I will just let them shuffle back into the deck.

510 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:16:40am

re: #492 J.D.

Not a good combo, imho.

A green shirt & white turban after New Year's? Is he mad?!?
/

511 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:16:45am

re: #485 realwest

Yup, absolute, classic Narcissist!

Barack Obama really does go on a bit

Today, we were treated to another set-piece Obama speech, and my didn't he go on a bit? ... what he served up was not any more impressive than his damp squib in Berlin last year. Is there a computer which churns this stuff out for him? ... goodness, what a ham.

But Obama was only warming up. "When I was born," (Everything usually leads back to him, you'll notice)... "the world was divided, and our nations were faced with very different circumstances. Few people would have predicted that someone like me would one day become an American President." (Him again)...

"We are here today because enough people ignored the voices who told them that the world could not change. We are here today because of the courage of those who stood up - and took risks - to say that freedom is a right for all people, no matter what side of a wall they live on, and no matter what they look like... (subtly this time, but right at the end the sentence leads back to him again).

Is the Narcissist in Chief starting to use the royal "We"?

512 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:16:48am

re: #499 albusteve

why?...blue and white seem to work well together

With olive green, not so good.

513 Rednek  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:16:53am

re: #384 WoodstockDave

The Obama administration doesn't want to release the FAA's bird strike data? They don't want to release information on the gifts given to foreign leaders?

Why is this administration so seeecretive?

I didn't know that birds were on strike.

514 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:17:05am

re: #445 WoodstockDave

Quick...name one accomplishment of the revered JFK administration!

The Apollo program.
(Eisenhower was proceeding with a space program, and would have sped it up, but JFK used it in his campaign first.)

515 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:17:07am

re: #506 Irish Rose

I thought you looked pretty good in that picture...

Thanks.

516 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:17:18am

re: #502 Occasional Reader

YOU PEOPLE?
I'm Blond... What the hell do you mean!
Racist!
LOL/

517 WoodstockDave  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:17:21am

re: #495 reloadingisnotahobby

He has never heard a gun shot!

Oh come on, he was a community organizer on the South Side! Of course he's heard gunshots...mostly from his constituents.

518 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:17:22am

re: #486 Joo-LiZ

What does the BBC report?

Police kill Palestinian motorist

Unbelievable.

It's like a 9/12/01 headline, "America Kills Arab Pilots".

519 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:17:24am

For those who haven't heard...
On Sunday the Independent Jewish Voices affiliated group "Not In Our Name" attempted to protest at an Ontario LCBO (Liquor Distributor) to enforce a boycott of Israeli wines.

The Jewish organizations got wind of this, and organized a counter-boycott. Over 600 Jews and Zionists showed up throughout the day, and the LCBO sold out of all their Israeli wine within half an hour, over 1100 bottles.

Israel Matzav has video of the event.

520 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:18:07am

re: #439 jwb7605 Um, excuse me, but I'm 63 (well, gonna be 64 on the 11th) but MY generation didn't let America down, not by a long shot.
Try a couple of younger generations.

521 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:18:10am

re: #510 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A green shirt & white turban after New Year's? Is he mad?!?
/


:D

522 Learned Mother of Zion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:18:37am

re: #352 Wishing

Just read up on the guy: He was a Turk, now a citizen of Canada, was despondent, chose death by fighter jet, I guess. He left a goodbye note for his girlfriend, left his car at the airport with the keys in the ignition, stole the plane. They caught him shortly after he landed the plane at a convenience store, drinking a power drink.

Some convenience stores have large parking lots to accommodate truckers, but this is the first time I ever heard of a convenience store with a runway!

At least he knew how to land.

523 Macker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:18:39am

re: #303 KenJen

I think Arnold Schwarzeneger speaks Austrian.

Yes, he certainly does.

Youtube Video
524 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:18:42am

re: #505 opnion

This New World Order is difficult to understand.
He tells the Turks that we do not consider ourselves a Christiian country.
Of what business should it be to Turkey, a country drifting away from Secularism to an Islamic Republic?
He is over there pandring to the entire Ummah & IMO doing much more harm than good.

That's hardly "New World Order". John Adams said the same thing by signing the Treaty of Tripoli:

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

525 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:18:46am

re: #509 Walter L. Newton

A dozen answers quickly flashed through my car file in my head, and I think I will just let them shuffle back into the deck.

"It's twoo... it's twoo!" would have been one possibility.

526 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:18:54am

I thought about using my personal photo for my profile once, but some here suggested that it wasn't a good idea.

527 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:19:10am

re: #462 jwb7605

Vietnam.

Actually, were started sending advisers to Vietnam under Eisenhower. But JFK escalated it, and LBJ micromanaged it to defeat.

528 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:20:01am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!

What's this geography game some of you are playing? Sounds good!

529 Wishing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:20:01am

re: #522 Alouette

Some convenience stores have large parking lots to accommodate truckers, but this is the first time I ever heard of a convenience store with a runway!

At least he knew how to land.

LOL he landed the plane on a freeway, parked it under an overpass, I think I read earlier. He then wandered into town and was caught at the convenience store.

530 Silhouette  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:20:29am

re: #511 Kenneth

to say that freedom is a right for all people, no matter what side of a wall they live on

Unless you're an Iraqi, in which case we should have never invaded Iraq and you should be still living under a dictator.

/Iraq distracted us from Afghanistan

531 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:21:35am

re: #526 Irish Rose

I thought about using my personal photo for my profile once, but some here suggested that it wasn't a good idea.

When Charles added avatars, I decided I had already said enough about myself personally, that anyone could have googled a picture of me, plus address and phone numbers.

Mainly because of my playwriting reputation in Colorado, I've had a lot of press, pictures and also a web site.

532 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:21:57am

re: #528 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!

What's this geography game some of you are playing? Sounds good!

They've been playing Globetrotter XL, but I prefer Traveler IQ, myself.

533 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:22:31am

re: #497 Walter L. Newton

Well, if you me "me" as in the my avatar, I look nothing like that. I was over 350 pounds in that picture, the beard and all, hair color (I'm blond) was all for a role in a show, and I don't normally dress like that.

I'm under 200 pounds, no facial hair and blond, and hair over the shoulders.

But, the guy does sound like he thinks a bit the way I do.

The mans name is Gary Koyen, this is his company (in Boulder).

I am seldom impressed with "motivational speakers".
This guy turned down an offer for a tenured professorship, among other things.

534 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:22:43am

re: #531 Walter L. Newton

When Charles added avatars, I decided I had already said enough about myself personally, that anyone could have googled a picture of me, plus address and phone numbers.

Mainly because of my playwriting reputation in Colorado, I've had a lot of press, pictures and also a web site.

Out of curiosity; have you gotten any harassment, prank phone calls, etc.?

535 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:23:17am

re: #531 Walter L. Newton

This is actually the only place on the web where I haven't used my photo for a profile.

536 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:23:21am

re: #533 jwb7605

The mans name is Gary Koyen, this is his company (in Boulder).

I am seldom impressed with "motivational speakers".
This guy turned down an offer for a tenured professorship, among other things.


Well, you know some of them just live in a van down by the river.

537 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:23:32am

re: #487 tfc3rid

Yeah, especially his cowardly trip Thanksgiving of 2002 when he had to fly in covertly under the cover of darkness...

/

You mean 2003?

538 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:24:04am

re: #468 Silhouette

First thoughts is my head are Bay of Pigs, NASA, and the Peace Corps


I'm more than pleased to give you the Peace Corps and NASA (and will throw in the formation of the US Army's Special Forces [the "Green berets"] but the Bay of Pigs?!

539 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:24:22am

re: #537 Ward Cleaver

You mean 2003?


The trip that was noted by the MSM for a fake turkey.

540 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:24:36am

re: #524 gmsc


I am aware of what John Adams penned over 200 years ago.
He was trying to get safe passage for our shipping.
The difference now is that we have been attacked on our own soil by radical Islamists & are fighting two hot wars against them.
Also John Adams was not apologizing for his country.

541 Silhouette  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:24:41am

re: #519 Joo-LiZ

Gotta love a "protest" that isn't about carrying signs, and getting arrested, but involves mainly just buying booze.

542 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:24:42am

Oh
WARD!

543 rightside  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:24:47am

re: #536 Kosh's Shadow

My shipmate from the Navy could do Chris dead on! I never laughed so hard in my life, and this kid was 100 lbs soaking wet. Funny to think of Chris, and listening to a think kid doing the bit.

544 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:24:53am

re: #530 Silhouette

to say that freedom is a right for all people, no matter what side of a wall they live on

Unless you're an Iraqi, in which case we should have never invaded Iraq and you should be still living under a dictator.

Don't ever forget, the liberals & leftists mocked Reagan when he called for Mr Gorbachev to "Tear down that wall!"

545 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:25:55am

re: #534 Occasional Reader

Out of curiosity; have you gotten any harassment, prank phone calls, etc.?

Twice, and both times it was commenters who Charles blocked, and already had my email address. I was "part" of the conversation so these folks blamed me as part of the reason they were banned.

And in that, it was just snide emails, nothing threatening.

546 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:26:09am

CAN WE CALL HIM HUSSEIN NOW?

Obama calls on Jews to 'see the perspective of the Palestinians'

It doesn't quite sound as bad in the full quote:

To the Jewish members of the group Obama said, "I say the same thing to my Jewish friends - you have to see the perspective of the Palestinians. Learning to stand in someone else's shoes, to see through their eyes... this is how peace begins."

Excuse me while I take B. Hussein's advice and blow myself up.
/on the last line

547 bloodnok  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:26:16am

re: #508 realwest

BREAKING: They let Obama stop in Baghdad!

I am glad to hear he's making a stop there. I really hope he doesn't say something stupid to the troops (or apologize to Iraqis). But credit where it's due again -it is good that he's doing it.

548 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:26:45am

re: #520 realwest

Um, excuse me, but I'm 63 (well, gonna be 64 on the 11th) but MY generation didn't let America down, not by a long shot.
Try a couple of younger generations.

This guy said it started there, but our generation should have been the firewall that recognized it.
I'll be 61 on the 12th of next month, and I ignored Jane Fonda and thought Kerry was just off the wall, and not my problem because he didn't represent my state.
I used to think that people like Ward Churchill were harmless, too.

Fighting for the country is only one part of the puzzle.

549 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:26:47am

Taking a risk:


Washington Times, April 7, 2009
EDITORIAL: Barack takes a bow


In a shocking display of fealty to a foreign potentate, President Obama bowed to Saudi King Abdullah at the Group of 20 summit in London last week.

Mr. Obama later said in Strasbourg, France, "We have to change our behavior in showing the Muslim world greater respect." Symbolism is important in world affairs. By bending over to show greater respect to Islam, the U.S. president belittled the power and independence of the United States.

The bow was an extraordinary protocol violation. Such an act is a traditional obeisance befitting a king's subjects, not his peer. There is no precedent for U.S. presidents bowing to Saudi or any other royals. Former President Franklin D. Roosevelt shook hands with Saudi King Abdulaziz in February 1945. Granted, Mr. Roosevelt was wheelchair-bound, but former President Dwight D. Eisenhower shook hands when he first met King Saud in January 1957. Mr. Obama's bow to the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques does not help his image with those who believe he is secretly a Muslim, and why he chose to bow only to the Saudi King and not to any other royals remains unexplained.

No Americans of any station are required to bow to royalty. It is one of the pillars of American exceptionalism that our country rejected traditional caste divisions. Article I Section 9 of the Constitution forbids titles of nobility and stipulates that no officeholder or government employee may "accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state" without the consent of Congress. Judith Martin wrote in her Miss Manners column in 2001 that bowing "is not an ordinary bit of foreign etiquette one might adopt out of courtesy when traveling. ... Americans do not properly bow to any royalty. We show respect for other countries' leaders the same way we do to our own."

Press outlets have been conspicuously silent on Mr. Obama's bow. Compare this to the New York Times' reaction when former President Bill Clinton inclined a bit too far when meeting Japanese Emperor Akihito in 1994. According to the Gray Lady, "The image on the South Lawn was indelible: an obsequent president, and the Emperor of Japan." Former President George W. Bush received thorough press attention after being photographed holding hands with then-Crown Prince Abdullah in 2005. "It clearly strikes a nerve," CBS News reported, while David Letterman satirized Mr. Bush as "officially the gayest president since Lincoln." These two cases were tame compared to Mr. Obama's full-out genuflection, which makes us wonder why it is not worthy of comment.

Mr. Obama is proving that one can be elected president without knowing how to behave presidentially. His servile gesture was fully fitting with the tone of his humility tour of Europe. In his eagerness to be loved personally, the president has lost sight of the fact that the leader of the free world also must be respected.

[Link: washingtontimes.com...]

550 Macker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:26:57am

re: #477 gmsc

What kind of metals? Tungsten? Aluminum? Silver?

More like Tin.

551 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:27:31am

re: #520 realwest

Um, excuse me, but I'm 63 (well, gonna be 64 on the 11th) but MY generation didn't let America down, not by a long shot.
Try a couple of younger generations.

We are not without blame, realwest.

Did our generation not raise these delicate little hothouse flowers? Did we not seek to insulate our children from the slings and arrows of life? Did we not tell them that they were special and different and oh so irreplaceable? Didn't we, looking back at the sacrifices that our fathers had made in the Great Depression and WWII, decide that nevermore would our children be exposed to depravation or want? Wasn't it our generation who turned over education to indoctrinationists? Who allowed television to begin to elect our leaders?

No. We are not blameless.

552 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:27:39am

re: #547 bloodnok

I am glad to hear he's making a stop there. I really hope he doesn't say something stupid to the troops (or apologize to Iraqis). But credit where it's due again -it is good that he's doing it.

I think he'd apologize to Saddam if he were alive.

553 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:28:07am

re: #549 Opinionated

humility tour of Europe


Fitting description there.

554 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:28:15am

re: #538 realwest

(and will throw in the formation of the US Army's Special Forces [the "Green berets"]

Actually, they were founded in 1952.

555 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:28:17am

re: #511 Kenneth

Is the Narcissist in Chief starting to use the royal "We"?

"What's this "we" shit, sucka?"

556 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:28:23am

bbl

557 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:28:48am

re: #539 J.D.

The trip that was noted by the MSM for a fake turkey.

This time, we sent a real turkey.

558 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:28:51am

re: #532 gmsc

They've been playing Globetrotter XL, but I prefer Traveler IQ, myself.

Great! /
Another game to make me feel like an idiot. And this one insults you if you aren't close.

559 Macker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:29:03am

re: #546 Kosh's Shadow

After all, it's because Muslims are The New Jews™...

560 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:29:39am

re: #553 J.D.

Fitting description there.

I forgot to highlight it, but this says it all.

Symbolism is important in world affairs. By bending over to show greater respect to Islam, the U.S. president belittled the power and independence of the United States.

561 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:29:57am

BBIAB - got to get ready to go to the theatre, building a new set today for our next show.

562 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:30:10am

I called Obama a narcissist a couple of days ago on another thread, and someone implied that I was playing amateur psychologist ;).

If the shoe fits, I say...

563 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:30:11am

re: #532 gmsc

They've been playing Globetrotter XL, but I prefer Traveler IQ, myself.

Thanks, I've saved them :-)

Thanks for your finance tips BTW, much appreciated here

564 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:30:39am

re: #551 razorbacker

We are not without blame, realwest.

Did our generation not raise these delicate little hothouse flowers? Did we not seek to insulate our children from the slings and arrows of life? Did we not tell them that they were special and different and oh so irreplaceable? Didn't we, looking back at the sacrifices that our fathers had made in the Great Depression and WWII, decide that nevermore would our children be exposed to depravation or want? Wasn't it our generation who turned over education to indoctrinationists? Who allowed television to begin to elect our leaders?

No. We are not blameless.


WOW.
Were you at the meeting? Did he plagarize you or are you clairvoyant?

Upding.

565 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:30:42am

re: #562 Irish Rose

I called Obama a narcissist a couple of days ago on another thread, and someone implied that I was playing amateur psychologist ;).

If the shoe fits, I say...

Throw It!

566 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:30:51am

re: #561 Walter L. Newton

got to get ready to go to the theatre

It may seem like a Mystery to some, but there's a real Science to Theatre.

567 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:31:12am

re: #549 Opinionated

Taking a risk:

Washington Times, April 7, 2009
EDITORIAL: Barack takes a bow

In a shocking display of fealty to a foreign potentate, President Obama bowed to Saudi King Abdullah at the Group of 20 summit in London last week.

Mr. Obama later said in Strasbourg, France, "We have to change our behavior in showing the Muslim world greater respect." Symbolism is important in world affairs. By bending over to show greater respect to Islam, the U.S. president belittled the power and independence of the United States.

The bow was an extraordinary protocol violation. Such an act is a traditional obeisance befitting a king's subjects, not his peer. There is no precedent for U.S. presidents bowing to Saudi or any other royals. Former President Franklin D. Roosevelt shook hands with Saudi King Abdulaziz in February 1945. Granted, Mr. Roosevelt was wheelchair-bound, but former President Dwight D. Eisenhower shook hands when he first met King Saud in January 1957. Mr. Obama's bow to the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques does not help his image with those who believe he is secretly a Muslim, and why he chose to bow only to the Saudi King and not to any other royals remains unexplained.

No Americans of any station are required to bow to royalty. It is one of the pillars of American exceptionalism that our country rejected traditional caste divisions. Article I Section 9 of the Constitution forbids titles of nobility and stipulates that no officeholder or government employee may "accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state" without the consent of Congress. Judith Martin wrote in her Miss Manners column in 2001 that bowing "is not an ordinary bit of foreign etiquette one might adopt out of courtesy when traveling. ... Americans do not properly bow to any royalty. We show respect for other countries' leaders the same way we do to our own."

Press outlets have been conspicuously silent on Mr. Obama's bow. Compare this to the New York Times' reaction when former President Bill Clinton inclined a bit too far when meeting Japanese Emperor Akihito in 1994. According to the Gray Lady, "The image on the South Lawn was indelible: an obsequent president, and the Emperor of Japan." Former President George W. Bush received thorough press attention after being photographed holding hands with then-Crown Prince Abdullah in 2005. "It clearly strikes a nerve," CBS News reported, while David Letterman satirized Mr. Bush as "officially the gayest president since Lincoln." These two cases were tame compared to Mr. Obama's full-out genuflection, which makes us wonder why it is not worthy of comment.

Mr. Obama is proving that one can be elected president without knowing how to behave presidentially. His servile gesture was fully fitting with the tone of his humility tour of Europe. In his eagerness to be loved personally, the president has lost sight of the fact that the leader of the free world also must be respected.

[Link: washingtontimes.com...]

The MSM doesn't regard the WashTimes as a real newspaper, since it's conservative, and owned by the Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

568 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:31:29am

re: #546 Kosh's Shadow

See the perspective of the Palestinians? You mean the same group of people, who when given the opportunity to turn Gaza in to a Dubai by the Med instead turned it into a jihadi's wet dream with terror training camps on the grounds of former Israeli greenhouses and rocket launching pads from the vicinity of schools and UN institutions? Gaza has been wholly in Palestinian control since October 2005, and the only thing the Palestinians have done is wage war.

That's the perspective of the Palestinians. Palestinians have had civil administrative control over much of the West Bank and all of Gaza since 1993, and what have they done with that opportunity? Start wars, carry out terror attacks, and demand more concessions from Israel without giving back any in return.

It's an entitlement culture that seeks the biggest entitlement of all - Israel's destruction.

569 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:31:30am

re: #562 Irish Rose

I called Obama a narcissist a couple of days ago on another thread, and someone implied that I was playing amateur psychologist ;).

If the shoe fits, I say...

Stick it up his ass?

570 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:32:00am

re: #563 aussiemagpie

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571 Macker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:32:08am

re: #566 Occasional Reader

It may seem like a Mystery to some, but there's a real Science to Theatre.

3000?

572 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:32:11am

re: #549 Opinionated

I find it odd that they mention Presidential handshakes, but ignore Bush's kiss, dancing and hand holding, unless I missed it.

573 jorline  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:32:29am

Good morning all.

I see the POTUS took a sneak side trip back to the US via Iraq.
How do you disguise Air Force One...mustache on the nosecone?

574 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:32:54am

re: #566 Occasional Reader

It may seem like a Mystery to some, but there's a real Science to Theatre.

Whatever you say, Joel!

/

575 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:32:59am

re: #549 Opinionated

They nailed it.

576 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:33:14am

re: #504 Occasional Reader

Hangin' in there. Gainfully employed, which is a good thing these days.


And, alas, more and more unusual in the law firm arena.
But I must say you were right about Obama's "flinching" during the gun salute - hell I've been to I don't know how many military funerals and since they usually leave the seven riflemen out of your immediate field of vision, have done the same sort of flinching.
ODS strikes again.

577 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:33:36am

re: #567 Ward Cleaver

That is something that was noted all while on the campaign trail too, such as during last year's 9/11 memorial at Ground Zero and the kerfuffle over how Obama showed his respects.

578 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:33:38am

re: #571 Macker

3000?

Not now (that's only post #571). But, in the not-too-distant future...

579 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:34:14am

re: #573 jorline

Good morning all.

I see the POTUS took a sneak side trip back to the US via Iraq.
How do you disguise Air Force One...mustache on the nosecone?

It doesn't take as much guts to fly in there as it did back in 2003 (thanks to our brave troops).

580 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:34:16am

re: #571 Macker

3000?

He's the one with the tin foil hat and antennae.

581 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:34:28am

re: #544 Kenneth

Don't ever forget, the liberals & leftists mocked Reagan when he called for Mr Gorbachev to "Tear down that wall!"

The leftist mock Reagan because the don't understand a man guided by core principals.

And now today we find ourselves involved in another struggle this time called a cold war. This cold war between great sovereign nations isn't really a new struggle at all. It is the oldest struggle of human kind, as old as man himself. This is a simple struggle between those of us who believe that rnan has the dignity and sacred right and the ability to choose and shape his own destiny and those who do not so believe. This irreconcilable conflict is between those who believe in the sanctity of individual freedom and those who believe in the supremacy of the state.

Ronald Reagan
Commencement Address at Eureka College
June 7, 1957

His call to tear down this wall wasn't political to Reagan, it was a core principal.

582 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:34:38am
583 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:35:11am

re: #573 jorline

Good morning all.

I see the POTUS took a sneak side trip back to the US via Iraq.
How do you disguise Air Force One...mustache on the nosecone?

They use the call sign and transponder signal of other aircraft, according to a National Geographic show on AF1.

584 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:35:12am

re: #576 realwest

usually leave the seven riflemen out of your immediate field of vision, have done the same sort of flinching.

I'm pretty sure I flinched at the range a couple weeks back, when the guy in the lane next to me opened up with his .458 SOCOM rifle... sheesh, I wasn't expecting that!

585 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:35:28am

re: #572 avanti

I find it odd that they mention Presidential handshakes, but ignore Bush's kiss, dancing and hand holding, unless I missed it.

Bush's conduct at times was inexcusable, but that does not excuse Obama. The bow is submisssive.

586 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:36:25am

re: #558 Ford_Prefect

Great! /
Another game to make me feel like an idiot. And this one insults you if you aren't close.

Here are some less insulting geography games. They range from the very difficult, such as naming all the countries that lie on the Equator and/or Prime Meridian, to the easy, such as naming all the countries in Antarctica.

587 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:36:40am

re: #582 Iron Fist

Speaking of which; I finally got to fire a full-auto Uzi last week. Lots of fun, much more controllable than I expected.

588 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:36:56am

re: #567 Ward Cleaver

re: #572 avanti

I find it odd that they mention Presidential handshakes, but ignore Bush's kiss, dancing and hand holding, unless I missed it.

I agree that Bush should have been criticized then, now and forever, for his behavior with the Saudis.

Obama's bow- in my continuing opinion and that of the Wash Times- is universally understood and what Obama did carried a universal meaning.

Others obviously disagree.

589 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:37:11am

re: #511 Kenneth

Is the Narcissist in Chief starting to use the royal "We"?

Must be, cause he surely doesn't mean ME in that "We" bullshit.

590 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:37:33am

re: #575 opnion

They nailed it.

Absolutely.

591 jorline  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:37:39am

International Space Station Timeline...Amazing how it's grown.

592 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:38:02am

re: #570 gmsc

Good Morning, Lizard Nation! Congrats on the 1HT on the downthread, gmsc...:>)). By the time I caught up last night, you'd signed off for a warm sand bed. My apologies to Slumbering Behemoth, BignJames, etc.-I fell asleep early in this thread, and PC was in standby when I banged my head on the keyboard. I didn't mean to leave without a proper goodnight, but Morpheus took me...

593 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:38:19am

re: #585 opnion

Bush's conduct at times was inexcusable, but that does not excuse Obama. The bow is submisssive.

Both were inexcusable, and both should have been mentioned. To quote the handshakes and pass on the GW kiss and hand holding is spinning worthy of Kos.

594 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:39:27am

re: #587 Occasional Reader

Speaking of which; I finally got to fire a full-auto Uzi last week. Lots of fun, much more controllable than I expected.

Green with envy.

A couple years ago I got a chance to fire an full auto suppressed H&K MP5. It belonged to a SWAT team.

595 jorline  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:40:14am

re: #589 realwest

Must be, cause he surely doesn't mean ME in that "We" bullshit.

Good morning, RW. Hope you're feeling well today.

596 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:40:39am

re: #593 avanti

Will the rest of your life be spent looking through a Bush-prism, or is this just a passing phase?

597 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:40:44am

re: #592 Pietr

Red pill or blue pill?

598 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:40:54am

re: #592 Pietr

Good Morning, Lizard Nation! Congrats on the 1HT on the downthread, gmsc...:>)). By the time I caught up last night, you'd signed off for a warm sand bed. My apologies to Slumbering Behemoth, BignJames, etc.-I fell asleep early in this thread, and PC was in standby when I banged my head on the keyboard. I didn't mean to leave without a proper goodnight, but Morpheus took me...

Thanks!

599 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:40:55am

re: #593 avanti

Both were inexcusable, and both should have been mentioned. To quote the handshakes and pass on the GW kiss and hand holding is spinning worthy of Kos.

Hey, that's not an Avanti, that's a Hawk. We want an Avanti picture. An R2.

600 jacksontn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:41:18am

re: #593 avanti

Both were inexcusable, and both should have been mentioned. To quote the handshakes and pass on the GW kiss and hand holding is spinning worthy of Kos.

Who is President now? ... Who? ... we all know what Bush did ... but when are you going to focus on NOW ... the past is history ... we are concerned about NOW ... when will the time come when you and every other person IN LOVE with Obama will start accepting the fact that he is responsible for his actions ... ENOUGH with the Bush Bush Bush ... are you afraid to see the reality of the Obama administration ... the pointing fingers at Bush and the past needs to stop ...

601 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:41:24am

re: #582 Iron Fist

It is nowhere near over. Ammo is still selling like hotcakes. It's going out the door, sometimes even before it hits the shelves. Inexpensive ammo (with the excption of .22) is a thing of the past now. And anything that takes a clip is backordered. You could probably score a legal submachinegun before you could get its semi-automatic. To do the latter, you have to be able to find someone who is willing to part with one.

Day before yesterday, one of the guys at the gunshop I go to (look at the pretty lights) said that DPMS (one of the major suppliers of M-4s) has sold Forty thousand rifles since Ears got elected. And that's only one manufacturer. I've heard Bushmaster is running something like an 18 week backorder. These people are not buying them so that they can have something to turn in when ATF thugs knock on their door.

If it continues to develop at this rate, Obama may get a major show-stopper. The people who har buying guns are also buying ammunition at record rates.

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Mr. President

I approve of the sentiment, though I would never say that last myself. But, then again, given that suburb in which I live has a SWAT team, if I owned a gun on a confiscation list I'd just hand over. No point in trying to stand up to that sort of firepower. Wimpy, I know, but there it is.

602 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:42:12am

re: #564 jwb7605

WOW.
Were you at the meeting? Did he plagarize you or are you clairvoyant?

Upding.

No to all three. But how can an unbiased observer reach another conclusion?

Don't get me started on the folly of touting electric vehicles and at the same time refusing to allow new electric power plants.

Don't ask me about the policy of subsidising welfare layabouts by taxing the productive segment of society.

Every single year brings new laws. New restrictions. New prohibitions. Can you even lift the Federal Register? Are you strong enough to bench press the IRS regulations? Can you even keep up with the new laws, and reconcile them with your actions? Don't tell me that freedom is on the march.

Pah. I stand astride history. Shouting, "Wait a minute, will ya? I can't keep up."

603 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:42:19am

re: #544 Kenneth

Don't ever forget, the liberals & leftists mocked Reagan when he called for Mr Gorbachev to "Tear down that wall!"

Mark Steyn had an excellent column on that some years back. He pointed out how some oh-so-sophisticated pundit (I don't recall which) sneered at Reagan's "simplistic" line, and opined that Reagan instead should have quoted Robert Frost's line, "Something there is that doesn't love a wall". What the oh-so-sophisticated pundit overlooked (among other things) was that Frost's poem ("Mending Wall") is, actually, pro-wall.

604 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:42:30am

re: #593 avanti

Both were inexcusable, and both should have been mentioned. To quote the handshakes and pass on the GW kiss and hand holding is spinning worthy of Kos.

That, avanti, is nothing less then the plain truth. Sorry to post and run but I've got to go.

605 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:42:34am

re: #527 Kosh's Shadow

Actually, were started sending advisers to Vietnam under Eisenhower. But JFK escalated it, and LBJ micromanaged it to defeat.


Yeah, but LGJ had a LOT of help from that mofo Sec Def Robert McNamara who said - on 60 minutes and in his hopefully last book "I knew we couldn't win in Vietnam in early 1967, but I didn't tell my good friend Lyndon because I didn't want to upset him."*

30,000+ American lives later, the war ended.

*approximate quote, but accurate as to the facts therein.

606 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:42:48am

re: #593 avanti

Both were inexcusable, and both should have been mentioned. To quote the handshakes and pass on the GW kiss and hand holding is spinning worthy of Kos.

At the end, what's your point?

If the Bush family were/are Saudi toadies, Bush is no longer President.

The current President that makes policy, that will pick sides in the Arab/Israeli conflict, that will or will not fight radical Islam, that will or will not object to hateful Saudi teaching in the US, more, bows to the Saudi King.

607 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:42:58am

re: #594 jcm

Green with envy.

A couple years ago I got a chance to fire an full auto suppressed H&K MP5. It belonged to a SWAT team.

I've fired a full auto MP5; never fired anything suppressed, would love to try it out.

608 Rednek  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:43:14am

This is interesting:

The idea for the game, called Six Days in Fallujah (The Times spells the name of the city differently), came from U.S. Marines who returned from the battle with video, photos and diaries of their experiences. Instead of dialing up Steven Spielberg to make a movie version of their stories, they turned to Atomic Games, a company in Raleigh, N.C., that makes combat simulation software for the military.

609 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:44:27am

re: #605 realwest

Yeah, but LGJ had a LOT of help from that mofo Sec Def Robert McNamara who said - on 60 minutes and in his hopefully last book "I knew we couldn't win in Vietnam in early 1967, but I didn't tell my good friend Lyndon because I didn't want to upset him."*

30,000+ American lives later, the war ended.

*approximate quote, but accurate as to the facts therein.

58,202...

610 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:44:28am

So Obama is visiting Iraq?

611 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:44:35am

re: #607 Occasional Reader

I've fired a full auto MP5; never fired anything suppressed, would love to try it out.

I was a purr, the loudest part was the action cambering the next round.

612 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:44:43am

re: #605 realwest

Yeah, but LGJ had a LOT of help from that mofo Sec Def Robert McNamara who said - on 60 minutes and in his hopefully last book "I knew we couldn't win in Vietnam in early 1967, but I didn't tell my good friend Lyndon because I didn't want to upset him."*

30,000+ American lives later, the war ended.

*approximate quote, but accurate as to the facts therein.

McNamara was probably the worst SecDef in the history of the US.
Among his other "accomplishments" was stopping SR-71 production and destroying the tooling so no more could be made.
If he were around today, I think 0bama would have him on his administration. They seem to have a similar attitude about reducing the security of the country.

613 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:44:47am

re: #591 jorline

International Space Station Timeline...Amazing how it's grown.

Visions of Moonraker just flashed through my head.

M : Bond, what do you think you're doing ?

Q : I think he's attempting re-entry.

614 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:44:49am

re: #589 realwest

Hey, RW. Chilly here In San Antonio-put my strwberry plants in the BBQ last night to insulate them (damn Gorebull Warming). How's by you today, temperature and weather both?

615 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:45:09am

re: #599 Ward Cleaver

Hey, that's not an Avanti, that's a Hawk. We want an Avanti picture. An R2.

Or at least a starlight coupe.

616 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:45:12am

re: #593 avanti

Both were inexcusable, and both should have been mentioned. To quote the handshakes and pass on the GW kiss and hand holding is spinning worthy of Kos.

Actually, ah, we had very critical threads about them at the time.

But Obama is the POTUS now.

(And that's not even addressing the point that a servile bow is a different thing.)

617 albusteve  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:45:12am

re: #605 realwest

Yeah, but LGJ had a LOT of help from that mofo Sec Def Robert McNamara who said - on 60 minutes and in his hopefully last book "I knew we couldn't win in Vietnam in early 1967, but I didn't tell my good friend Lyndon because I didn't want to upset him."*

30,000+ American lives later, the war ended.

*approximate quote, but accurate as to the facts therein.

RM tossed it, you are correct...despicable man

618 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:45:30am

re: #600 jacksontn


I think that this is a perfectly valid criticism.

619 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:45:31am

re: #605 realwest

Yeah, but LGJ had a LOT of help from that mofo Sec Def Robert McNamara who said - on 60 minutes and in his hopefully last book "I knew we couldn't win in Vietnam in early 1967, but I didn't tell my good friend Lyndon because I didn't want to upset him."*

30,000+ American lives later, the war ended.

*approximate quote, but accurate as to the facts therein.

And this wasn't criminal because?

620 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:45:47am

re: #597 ConservatismNow!

Red pill or blue pill?

Probably the Miller genuine draft...:>))

621 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:46:00am

re: #606 Opinionated

At the end, what's your point?

If the Bush family were/are Saudi toadies, Bush is no longer President.

The current President that makes policy, that will pick sides in the Arab/Israeli conflict, that will or will not fight radical Islam, that will or will not object to hateful Saudi teaching in the US, more, bows to the Saudi King.

At the least, Obama's bow smacks of BS moral relativism (all religions are alike). Part of me feels like it was instinctive and automatic, going back to his madrassa days in Indonesia.

622 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:46:06am

re: #602 razorbacker

No to all three. But how can an unbiased observer reach another conclusion?

Don't get me started on the folly of touting electric vehicles and at the same time refusing to allow new electric power plants.

Don't ask me about the policy of subsidising welfare layabouts by taxing the productive segment of society.

Every single year brings new laws. New restrictions. New prohibitions. Can you even lift the Federal Register? Are you strong enough to bench press the IRS regulations? Can you even keep up with the new laws, and reconcile them with your actions? Don't tell me that freedom is on the march.

Pah. I stand astride history. Shouting, "Wait a minute, will ya? I can't keep up."

I think it was JCM unintentionally pushed a button on my panel the other night, and I cut loose with a similar rant. The wife rescued me by asking if I wanted to watch a movie with her. OK. Fine. I enjoy chick flicks with the right people ...

Frustrating doesn't begin to cover this.

623 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:46:18am

re: #596 Lincolntf

Fair is fair, if we going to rightfully criticize BHO for his conduct with the Saudi's, it's fair to point out it's nothing new.

624 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:46:39am

re: #546 Kosh's Shadow

CAN WE CALL HIM HUSSEIN NOW?

Obama calls on Jews to 'see the perspective of the Palestinians'

I know the answer, but I have to ask anyway...

Did Obama call on the Arabs to see things from the perspective of the Jews? To live in a tiny country surrounded by an enemy that has declared every day for the past 60 years to destroy your country and kill every one of you? Did he ask that?

625 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:47:11am

How to pick up a little extra money at the bar/pub, playing a classic game called Nim:

Youtube Video
626 JacksonTn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:47:20am

re: #623 avanti

Fair is fair, if we going to rightfully criticize BHO for his conduct with the Saudi's, it's fair to point out it's nothing new.

We did that all day yesterday ... there were posts here about Bush and the Saudis ...

627 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:47:20am

re: #615 razorbacker

Or at least a starlight coupe.

Well, the Hawk was basically a facelifted '53 coupe.

628 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:47:28am

re: #621 Ward Cleaver

Part of me feels like it was instinctive and automatic, going back to his madrassa days in Indonesia.

My gut feeling too.

629 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:47:32am
630 Macker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:47:36am

re: #624 Kenneth

Most likely not. After all, Muslims are The New Jews™.

631 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:48:01am

re: #613 SasquatchOnSteroids

Visions of Moonraker just flashed through my head.

M : Bond, what do you think you're doing ?

Q : I think he's attempting re-entry.

That was one lousy movie.

I loved how, in zero gravity, everybody moved in slow motion. Huh?

Casino Royale (2006) was like Shakespeare after that dreck.

632 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:48:06am

re: #628 Opinionated

My gut feeling too.

I don't think he even thought before doing it.

633 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:48:38am

re: #548 jwb7605
"This guy said it started there, but our generation should have been the firewall that recognized it."
And so we did - two generations of peace later, we have the "entitlement" generation(s).
"Fighting for the country is only one part of the puzzle."
Yes, but if you don't fight for the country (not necessarily in uniform) for what do the other parts of the puzzle count?

634 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:48:39am

re: #605 realwest

Yeah, but LGJ

Little Green Johnson?

635 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:49:21am

re: #624 Kenneth

I know the answer, but I have to ask anyway...

Did Obama call on the Arabs to see things from the perspective of the Jews? To live in a tiny country surrounded by an enemy that has declared every day for the past 60 years to destroy your country and kill every one of you? Did he ask that?

From the article

"In the Muslim world, the notion that somehow everything is the fault of the Israelis lacks balance because there are two sides to every question," AFP quoted the US president as telling university students in Istanbul.


That's all I can find there. I haven't yet looked to see if there is a transcript.
He certainly was more pointed at Jews and Israelis than at Arabs.
We can guess where his sympathies lie.

636 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:49:30am

re: #546 Kosh's Shadow

CAN WE CALL HIM HUSSEIN NOW?

Obama calls on Jews to 'see the perspective of the Palestinians'

Ok, from a Palestinian perspective.

Would putting on a suicide belt make me look fat?

637 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:49:56am

re: #622 jwb7605

I think it was JCM unintentionally pushed a button on my panel the other night, and I cut loose with a similar rant. The wife rescued me by asking if I wanted to watch a movie with her. OK. Fine. I enjoy chick flicks with the right people ...

Frustrating doesn't begin to cover this.

And a fine rant it was too!

It's all so NUTS! It's living in Catch 22.

638 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:50:04am

re: #624 Kenneth

I know the answer, but I have to ask anyway...

Did Obama call on the Arabs to see things from the perspective of the Jews? To live in a tiny country surrounded by an enemy that has declared every day for the past 60 years to destroy your country and kill every one of you? Did he ask that?

I heard just a bit of it this morning. I'm paraphrasing here, he said that Palestinian mothers and Israeli mothers want the same thing.
I'd have to disagree with that, there, One-off, Israeli mothers want their kids to return home alive.

639 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:50:13am

re: #634 Occasional Reader

Little Green Johnson?

Ya know, if you keep that thing clean, your Johnson will be some normal color.

640 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:50:56am

re: #636 Opinionated

Ok, from a Palestinian perspective.

Would putting on a suicide belt make me look fat?

Only for a short time; once it goes off, it will reduce your weight significantly.

641 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:50:57am

re: #633 realwest

"This guy said it started there, but our generation should have been the firewall that recognized it."
And so we did - two generations of peace later, we have the "entitlement" generation(s).
"Fighting for the country is only one part of the puzzle."
Yes, but if you don't fight for the country (not necessarily in uniform) for what do the other parts of the puzzle count?

If you don't give all the puzzle pieces equal consideration, what does the picture look like when you're done?

Answer: USA, 2009.

642 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:50:57am

re: #634 Occasional Reader

Little Green Johnson?

In defference to the Lizardettes, can we NOT discuss our johnsons at this time...

/white smoke...

643 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:51:29am

re: #639 razorbacker

Ya know, if you keep that thing clean, your Johnson will be some normal color.

*spew*

Thanks, coffee is every where!

*cleaning up* LMAO.

644 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:51:43am

re: #642 Pietr

In defference to the Lizardettes, can we NOT discuss our johnsons at this time...

/white smoke...

Why the hell not?

645 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:51:52am

re: #623 avanti

It's also fair to point out that Benjamin Harrison once farted in the White House. What's the relevance? Bush is gone. Your BDS has left you addicted to the addiction as much as to the drug.

646 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:52:00am

re: #632 Ward Cleaver

I don't think he even thought before doing it.

Maybe the TelePrompter gave direction to bow.

647 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:52:19am

Oh dear!

Now I'm hooked onto more games! I like those geography ones..

Erik got me hooked into building a city on Facebook, now these..

Granny Gamer, that's me

And I remember ripping the Nintendo out of my son's hands, while telling him that playing games was a waste of time

648 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:52:55am

Vietnam veterans are men and women. We are dead or alive, whole or maimed, sane or haunted. We grew from our experiences or we were destroyed by them or we struggle to find some place in between. We lived through hell or we had a pleasant, if scary, adventure. We were Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Red Cross, and civilians of all sorts. Some of us enlisted to fight for God and Country, and some were drafted. Some were gung-ho, and some went kicking and screaming.

Like veterans of all wars, we lived a tad bit--or a great bit--closer to death than most people like to think about. If Vietnam vets differ from others, perhaps it is primarily in the fact that many of us never saw the enemy or recognized him or her. We heard gunfire and mortar fire but rarely looked into enemy eyes. Those who did, like folks who encounter close combat anywhere and anytime, are often haunted for life by those eyes, those sounds, those electric fears that ran between ourselves, our enemies, and the likelihood of death for one of us. Or we get hard, calloused, tough. All in a day's work. Life's a bitch then you die. But most of us remember and get twitchy, worried, sad.

We are crazies dressed in cammo, wide-eyed, wary, homeless, and drunk. We are Brooks Brothers suit wearers, doing deals downtown. We are housewives, grandmothers, and church deacons. We are college professors engaged in the rational pursuit of the truth about the history or politics or culture of the Vietnam experience. And we are sleepless. Often sleepless.

We pushed paper; we pushed shovels. We drove jeeps, operated bulldozers, built bridges; we toted machine guns through dense brush, deep paddy, and thorn scrub. We lived on buffalo milk, fish heads and rice. Or C-rations. Or steaks and Budweiser. We did our time in high mountains drenched by endless monsoon rains or on the dry plains or on muddy rivers or at the most beautiful beaches in the world.

649 Mithrax  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:53:12am

From the do not take yourself seriously Dept:

After my four-year-old and I turned the department store upside down looking for a bathing suit for me, we finally found a black-and-white one-piece that we both liked. I tried on the suit and modeled it for her. It was a hit.

“Mommy, you look so pretty,” she squealed. “You look just like Shamu the whale.”

--Lori Rhodes in the may 2009 Reader’s Digest, page 192

650 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:53:14am

re: #640 Kosh's Shadow

Only for a short time; once it goes off, it will reduce your weight significantly.

Well... your weight will be the same, but just much more widely-distributed.

651 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:53:18am

We wore berets, bandanas, flop hats, and steel pots. Flak jackets, canvas, rash and rot. We ate cloroquine and got malaria anyway. We got shots constantly but have diseases nobody can diagnose. We spent our nights on cots or shivering in foxholes filled with waist-high water or lying still on cold wet ground, our eyes imagining Charlie behind every bamboo blade. Or we slept in hotel beds in Saigon or barracks in Thailand or in cramped ships' berths at sea.

We feared we would die or we feared we would kill. We simply feared, and often we still do. We hate the war or believe it was the best thing that ever happened to us. We blame Uncle Sam or Uncle Ho and their minions and secretaries and apologists for every wart or cough or tic of an eye. We wonder if Agent Orange got us.

Mostly--and this I believe with all my heart--mostly, we wish we had not been so alone. Some of us went with units; but many, probably most of us, were civilians one day, jerked up out of "the world," shaved, barked at, insulted, humiliated, de-egoized and taught to kill, to fix radios, to drive trucks. We went, put in our time, and were equally ungraciously plucked out of the morass and placed back in the real world. But now we smoked dope, shot skag, or drank heavily. Our wives or husbands seemed distant and strange. Our friends wanted to know if we shot anybody.

And life went on, had been going on, as if we hadn't been there, as if Vietnam was a topic of political conversation or college protest or news copy, not a matter of life and death for tens of thousands.

Vietnam vets are people just like you. We served our country, proudly or reluctantly or ambivalently. What makes us different--what makes us Vietnam vets--is something we understand, but we are afraid nobody else will. But we appreciate your asking.

Vietnam veterans are white, black, beige and shades of gray; but in comparison with our numbers in the "real world," we were more likely black. Our ancestors came from Africa, from Europe, and China. Or they crossed the Bering Sea Land Bridge in the last Ice Age and formed the nations of American Indians, built pyramids in Mexico, or farmed acres of corn on the banks of Chesapeake Bay. We had names like Rodriguez and Stein and Smith and Kowalski. We were Americans, Australians, Canadians, and Koreans; most Vietnam veterans are Vietnamese.

We were farmers, students, mechanics, steelworkers, nurses, and priests when the call came that changed us all forever. We had dreams and plans, and they all had to change...or wait. We were daughters and sons, lovers and poets, beatniks and philosophers, convicts and lawyers. We were rich and poor but mostly poor. We were educated or not, mostly not. We grew up in slums, in shacks, in duplexes, and bungalows and houseboats and hooches and ranchers. We were cowards and heroes. Sometimes we were cowards one moment and heroes the next.

Many of us have never seen Vietnam. We waited at home for those we loved. And for some of us, our worst fears were realized. For others, our loved ones came back but never would be the same.

We came home and marched in protest marches, sucked in tear gas, and shrieked our anger and horror for all to hear. Or we sat alone in small rooms, in VA hospital wards, in places where only the crazy ever go. We are Republicans, Democrats, Socialists, and Confucians and Buddhists and Atheists--though as usually is the case, even the atheists among us sometimes prayed to get out of there alive.

We are hungry, and we are sated, full of life or clinging to death. We are injured, and we are curers, despairing and hopeful, loved or lost. We got too old too quickly, but some of us have never grown up. We want, desparately, to go back, to heal wounds, revisit the sites of our horror. Or we want never to see that place again, to bury it, its memories, its meaning. We want to forget, and we wish we could remember.

652 x-wing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:53:29am

re: #623 avanti

Fair is fair, if we going to rightfully criticize BHO for his conduct with the Saudi's, it's fair to point out it's nothing new.

So then Obama is just more of the same, huh?

Where's the change?

653 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:53:38am

re: #640 Kosh's Shadow

Only for a short time; once it goes off, it will reduce your weight significantly.

Read all about it in "The Palestinians Diet Book"

654 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:54:07am

We are hungry, and we are sated, full of life or clinging to death. We are injured, and we are curers, despairing and hopeful, loved or lost. We got too old too quickly, but some of us have never grown up. We want, desparately, to go back, to heal wounds, revisit the sites of our horror. Or we want never to see that place again, to bury it, its memories, its meaning. We want to forget, and we wish we could remember.

Despite our differences, we have so much in common. There are few of us who don't know how to cry, though we often do it alone when nobody will ask "what's wrong?" We're afraid we might have to answer.

Adam, if you want to know what a Vietnam veteran is, get in your car next weekend or cage a friend with a car to drive you. Go to Washington. Go to the Wall. It's going to be Veterans Day weekend. There will be hundreds there...no, thousands. Watch them. Listen to them. I'll be there. Come touch the Wall with us. Rejoice a bit. Cry a bit. No, cry a lot. I will. I'm a Vietnam Veteran; and, after 30 years, I think I am beginning to understand what that means.

655 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:54:24am

re: #625 gmsc

How to pick up a little extra money at the bar/pub, playing a classic game called Nim:

Got that? Now it's time for Advanced Nim:

Youtube Video
656 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:54:28am

re: #642 Pietr

In defference to the Lizardettes, can we NOT discuss our johnsons at this time...

/white smoke...

What, there was a pope elected and no one told me? /

657 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:54:30am

re: #593 avanti

Both were inexcusable, and both should have been mentioned. To quote the handshakes and pass on the GW kiss and hand holding is spinning worthy of Kos.

For those who excused Bush & now criticize Obama, I agree with you.
I recall Bush being roundly criticized by posters on LGF for the "Islam Is a Religion of Peace" statement & holding hands etc.
None of that in anyway can excused Obama.
I know that others disagree, but to me that bow was clear submission.
You did not see him bow to Queen Elizabeth.

658 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:54:31am

re: #551 razorbacker
Oh yes, we did indeed, as have other generations before us, tried to give our children a better life than we had. No doubt about it. But what else should our generation have done for our children and grandchildren?
The fact remains that our generation FOUGHT for this country - WE elected RWR, Bush I and Bush II.
But it is indeed silly to talk of this in generational terms; MY generation includes, alas, John F. Kerry and William Ayers among many, many other motherfuckers. It's the mindset of what America should or shouldn't be that our generation fought over and MY part of my generation won that fight hands down going away.

659 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:54:34am

re: #615 razorbacker

Or at least a starlight coupe.

Here's my back yard last year

Avanti's

660 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:54:34am

re: #648 Dustyvet

Vietnam veterans are men and women. We are dead or alive, whole or maimed, sane or haunted. We grew from our experiences or we were destroyed by them or we struggle to find some place in between. We lived through hell or we had a pleasant, if scary, adventure. We were Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Red Cross, and civilians of all sorts. Some of us enlisted to fight for God and Country, and some were drafted. Some were gung-ho, and some went kicking and screaming.

Like veterans of all wars, we lived a tad bit--or a great bit--closer to death than most people like to think about. If Vietnam vets differ from others, perhaps it is primarily in the fact that many of us never saw the enemy or recognized him or her. We heard gunfire and mortar fire but rarely looked into enemy eyes. Those who did, like folks who encounter close combat anywhere and anytime, are often haunted for life by those eyes, those sounds, those electric fears that ran between ourselves, our enemies, and the likelihood of death for one of us. Or we get hard, calloused, tough. All in a day's work. Life's a bitch then you die. But most of us remember and get twitchy, worried, sad.

We are crazies dressed in cammo, wide-eyed, wary, homeless, and drunk. We are Brooks Brothers suit wearers, doing deals downtown. We are housewives, grandmothers, and church deacons. We are college professors engaged in the rational pursuit of the truth about the history or politics or culture of the Vietnam experience. And we are sleepless. Often sleepless.

We pushed paper; we pushed shovels. We drove jeeps, operated bulldozers, built bridges; we toted machine guns through dense brush, deep paddy, and thorn scrub. We lived on buffalo milk, fish heads and rice. Or C-rations. Or steaks and Budweiser. We did our time in high mountains drenched by endless monsoon rains or on the dry plains or on muddy rivers or at the most beautiful beaches in the world.

Not enough up dings exist.

661 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:55:26am

re: #638 SasquatchOnSteroids

I heard just a bit of it this morning. I'm paraphrasing here, he said that Palestinian mothers and Israeli mothers want the same thing.
I'd have to disagree with that, there, One-off, Israeli mothers want their kids to return home alive.

Yet another example of Obama's willfully stupid reliance on trite kindergarten sentiments masquerading as principled foreign policy.

How many Israeli mothers have sent their children out as suicide bombers to kill civilians? How many Israeli mothers let their children throw stones at Arab soldiers? Obama is a cliches ridden fool, dangerously divorced from reality.

662 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:55:28am

re: #626 JacksonTn

We did that all day yesterday ... there were posts here about Bush and the Saudis ...

I know, but the Times ignored that fact.

663 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:56:16am

re: #647 aussiemagpie

Oh dear!

Now I'm hooked onto more games! I like those geography ones..

Erik got me hooked into building a city on Facebook, now these..

Granny Gamer, that's me

And I remember ripping the Nintendo out of my son's hands, while telling him that playing games was a waste of time

I'm a big fan of the timed-quiz type games ("How Many Whatevers Can You Name in So Many Minutes?"), and I even maintain an extensive list of such quizzes, so I can relate.

664 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:56:29am

re: #659 avanti

Here's my back yard last year

Avanti's

I'm calling the zoning board!

/// NICE!

665 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:56:33am

re: #642 Pietr

In defference to the Lizardettes, can we NOT discuss our johnsons at this time...

/white smoke...

Time to mow the lawn...

Youtube Video
666 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:56:38am

re: #652 x-wing

Apparently Avanti voted for a third term of George W. Bush, after all.

667 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:57:03am

re: #625 gmsc

I learned Nim at about age 10. I quickly figured out that there was a first move, that if you made it (and stayed smart after that), you couldn't lose. If your opponent had the first move, and didn't make THAT first move, there was a SECOND move you could make, that guaranteed you could win.

668 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:57:03am

re: #659 avanti

Here's my back yard last year

Avanti's

Way cool.

669 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:57:12am

My uncle spent some time in a POW camp during WWII. Weighted around 90 pounds when liberated.

For the rest of his life, that man made sure that he had food. Everywhere. Hershey bars in the glove box of the trucks. Sammiches in the coolers. A pantry that would put a Mormon to shame. Canned goods and bottled goods filling an outbuilding. Multiple freezers stuffed with food.

He didn't eat to excess. Never got fat. But by God he knew what hunger was, and he didn't intend to get hungry again.

Damned shame everyone can't learn from experience.

670 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:58:09am

re: #647 aussiemagpie

Oh dear!

Now I'm hooked onto more games! I like those geography ones..

Erik got me hooked into building a city on Facebook, now these..

Granny Gamer, that's me

And I remember ripping the Nintendo out of my son's hands, while telling him that playing games was a waste of time

At least it takes one away from seeing/hearing the Hourly BO campaign news pressers.

671 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:58:41am

re: #593 avanti

Both were inexcusable, and both should have been mentioned. To quote the handshakes and pass on the GW kiss and hand holding is spinning worthy of Kos.


Bush was not there, he is no longer the President!
The Left idea of ,"If my guy is one so is yours", is so tediouis.

672 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:58:59am

re: #665 Kenneth

Time to mow the lawn...


[Video]

I wonder how Suzi Quatro (remember "Leather Tuscadero" from Happy Days?) feels about that product.

673 NukeAtomrod  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:59:03am
A ritual wouldn’t be much of a ritual if you didn’t feel like you’ve been put through the ringer, would it?

— James Burke

I saw this episode of Connections right before I got married. This quote was of great comfort to me during the ordeal.

674 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:59:25am

Letter from shooting suspect

"...there may be some religious connotation," Binghamton Police Chief Joseph Zikuski told 10 News Now, "but until we get a chance to have mental health professionals, have some religious people look at it to determine what it really means, I'm really not going to comment on it any further at this time."

This is the first hint of any religious motive.
...interesting.

675 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:59:29am

re: #669 razorbacker

My uncle spent some time in a POW camp during WWII. Weighted around 90 pounds when liberated.

Who was running the camp? (I'm guessing the Japanese.)

676 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:59:45am

re: #666 Lincolntf

Apparently Avanti voted for a third term of George W. Bush, after all.

True, some of my leftie friends are not happy with some of the GW policies he'll keep.

677 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:59:47am

re: #654 Dustyvet

How very moving and thank you for posting this!

I have some Vietnam veteran friends and I'll be passing these words on to them

678 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:00:23am

re: #677 aussiemagpie

How very moving and thank you for posting this!

I have some Vietnam veteran friends and I'll be passing these words on to them

Your Welcome...:)

679 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:00:27am

re: #660 jcm

Not enough up dings exist.

He made double digits quickly (and deservedly).

680 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:00:49am

I out for a while folks, have a good one.

681 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:00:51am

re: #674 Spare O'Lake

Letter from shooting suspect

This is the first hint of any religious motive.
...interesting.

Let's publish the letter. I bet a hell of a lot of informed Americans can tell the little chief what it all means. Save him money on a consultant.

682 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:01:42am

re: #665 Kenneth

Time to mow the lawn...

The Man Song:

Youtube Video

The Woman Song:

Youtube Video
683 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:01:50am

re: #554 Occasional Reader
Well yes and no; that 1952 was a holdover (or hangover, depending on your pov) but, from your link in respect to what I said:

"It was President Kennedy who was responsible for the rebuilding of the Special Forces and giving us back our Green Beret," said Forrest Lindley, a writer for the newspaper Stars and Stripes who served with Special Forces in Vietnam. "People were sneaking around wearing it when conventional forces weren't in the area and it was sort a cat and mouse game," he recalled. "When Kennedy authorized the Green Beret as a mark of distinction, everybody had to scramble around to find berets that were really green. We were bringing them down from Canada. Some were handmade, with the dye coming out in the rain."

Special Forces have a special bond with Kennedy, going back to his funeral. At the commemoration of the 25th anniversary of JFK's death, Gen. Michael D. Healy, the last commander of Special Forces in Vietnam, spoke at Arlington Cemetery. Later, a wreath in the form of the Green Beret would be placed on the grave, continuing a tradition that began the day of his funeral when a sergeant in charge of a detail of Special Forces men guarding the grave placed his beret on the coffin.[16]


So I may very well have mispoken when I said JFK started the Special Forces (we have had "special forces" in various forms since we started as a nation) but it was in fact JFK that gave them a formal and formidable place within the U.S. Army.

684 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:02:21am

re: #624 Kenneth

I know the answer, but I have to ask anyway...

Did Obama call on the Arabs to see things from the perspective of the Jews? To live in a tiny country surrounded by an enemy that has declared every day for the past 60 years to destroy your country and kill every one of you? Did he ask that?

Quite frankly Obama's comments are typical of anyone who has no idea what he is talking about and no idea or perspective of the history of the conflict other than what a "handler" tells him.

685 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:02:41am

re: #663 gmsc

I'm a big fan of the timed-quiz type games ("How Many Whatevers Can You Name in So Many Minutes?"), and I even maintain an extensive list of such quizzes, so I can relate.

OH NO!

:-) Thanks! :-)

686 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:02:44am
687 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:02:45am

re: #659 avanti

Here's my back yard last year

Avanti's

Nice. Love to get in there to look at them up close It's always fun to look at older vehicles (and even more fun to drive them from time to time).

688 nyc redneck  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:03:55am

re: #654 Dustyvet

that was very moving.
just beautiful.
i'm blinking back tears.

689 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:04:06am

re: #683 realwest

I looked that up after being surprised to see an exhibit on the Green Berets at the West Point Museum, which included a mannequin dressed in what was described as Green Beret uniform, "circa 1958". I was sure that had to be a typo for 1968... until I looked it up.

690 x-wing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:04:40am

re: #666 Lincolntf

Apparently Avanti voted for a third term of George W. Bush, after all.

It's amazing how that little (D) after the name has such a soothing effect on so many. Policy doesn't matter, just that teeny tiny little (D)

691 AmeriDan  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:05:44am

re: #688 nyc redneck

that was very moving.
just beautiful.
i'm blinking back tears.

*offers slightly damp hankie*

:)

692 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:06:00am

re: #685 aussiemagpie

OH NO!

:-) Thanks! :-)

Mags, I just sent you a request to connect our cities...:)

693 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:06:13am

re: #687 Honorary Yooper

Nice. Love to get in there to look at them up close It's always fun to look at older vehicles (and even more fun to drive them from time to time).

I'm living my dream retirement. I buy, fix up and resell maybe 10-15 old Studebaker's a year. I get to play with them all for a bit before selling.

694 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:06:34am

re: #595 jorline
Hello my friend! Yes, I'm feeling ok, thanks. How are y'all doing?
BTW, please check your e-mail when you get a chance!

695 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:07:03am

re: #675 Occasional Reader

Who was running the camp? (I'm guessing the Japanese.)

Germans. And his German forebearers didn't help much.

He said they were all hungry. The ones on both sides of the wire. He thought that the scraps slipped to him by a certain guard saved his life.

He cried when he told me that, on the day of liberation, he couldn't get to that guard soon enough. That guard was lined up and shot along with the rest.

Uncle B had a hard time talking about his war. It was only late in life, when he could see the end, that he wanted me to know.

Bothers me still.

696 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:07:11am

re: #686 Iron Fist

I have shot an M-60

"The Pig", as I believe it's affectionately called!

Odd thing about the Uzi was that it fired initally from an open bolt position; I'd never seen that. As I said, it was way more accurate/controllable than I expected.

I'm not into handloading, though, and ammunition for any of these high caliber AR-15s is likely to be pretty steep.

I definitely concur, look carefully at ammo prices before making the call. You'd hate to have the thing wind up being an impressive-looking doorstop, if it's too expensive to feed.

697 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:07:11am

re: #690 x-wing

It's amazing how that little (D) after the name has such a soothing effect on so many. Policy doesn't matter, just that teeny tiny little (D)

And it's only used when praising said little D-it is conspicuously absent from all news articleswhen one is alleged to have misbehaved...:>((

698 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:07:21am

re: #690 x-wing

It's amazing how that little (D) after the name has such a soothing effect on so many. Policy doesn't matter, just that teeny tiny little (D)

Youtube Video
699 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:08:43am

What's the current Euro-dollar exchange?

700 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:08:53am

re: #602 razorbacker
"Pah. I stand astride history. Shouting, "Wait a minute, will ya? I can't keep up." and I'm the guy next to you saying "What did you say? Speak up, will ya?!"
:)

701 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:09:03am

re: #670 Pietr

At least it takes one away from seeing/hearing the Hourly BO campaign news pressers.

We're spared that, however we have our own PM Kevin Rudd who is our new hero and who never lets a camera go past him without some happy snaps

702 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:09:21am

re: #695 razorbacker

Germans. And his German forebearers didn't help much.

Huh. Interesting, since from what I've read, US POWs in German camps actually had a survival rate that was (very slightly) higher than Germans in US camps. Japanese camps... whole 'nother story.

703 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:09:37am

re: #685 aussiemagpie

OH NO!

:-) Thanks! :-)

You're welcome. There's roughly 1,700 quizzes there, so take your time.
;)

704 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:10:33am

re: #686 Iron Fist

Cool. I've never shot a full auto one. I have shot an M-60, and that is a quite a rush.

An M-60 is cool - if you've never fired a Browning .50 cal on full auto! They let me shoot one in ROTC as compensation for "volunteering" for a duty & missing out on firing a Claymore.

705 nyc redneck  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:10:33am

re: #691 AmeriDan

*offers slightly damp hankie*

:)

thank you.

706 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:10:46am

Obama's odd obsession with universal nuclear disarmament.

Ridding the world of nuclear weapons would be very nice, in other words, but on its own, it won't alter the international balance of power, stop al-Qaida, or prevent large authoritarian states from invading their smaller neighbors. However unsuccessful it has been so far, the promotion of democracy around the world is, ultimately, the only way to achieve these goals.

707 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:11:07am

re: #699 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What's the current Euro-dollar exchange?

Here are the current exchange rates at this writing. Click the links for an updated version:

1 U.S. dollar = 0.754489211 Euros

1 Euro = 1.3254 U.S. dollars

708 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:11:28am

re: #699 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What's the current Euro-dollar exchange?

1.32750 (dollars per Euro)

Bookmark for ya.

709 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:11:43am

re: #696 Occasional Reader

I definitely concur, look carefully at ammo prices before making the call. You'd hate to have the thing wind up being an impressive-looking doorstop, if it's too expensive to feed.

Even reloading can be expensive; the brass itself is fairly expensive, compared to slug, powder. and primer cost. And you want reliable brass, to prevent problems...that was my experience.

710 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:12:02am

re: #702 Occasional Reader

Huh. Interesting, since from what I've read, US POWs in German camps actually had a survival rate that was (very slightly) higher than Germans in US camps. Japanese camps... whole 'nother story.

The Germans treated the Americans & Western allies in their POW camps fairly well, mostly in accordance with the Geneva Conventions. The Russian POWs however, were treated as worse than animals.

711 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:12:08am

re: #692 Dustyvet

Mags, I just sent you a request to connect our cities...:)

Thanks! I'll go have a look...

712 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:12:35am
713 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:12:44am

re: #612 Kosh's Shadow
Indeed you are correct about Mr. McNamara - he would have fit in perfectly with President Obama's Hope and Change attitude.
And I apologize, it was, of course LBJ not LGJ. Sometimes I don't preview cause I'm trying to keep up and that was one of those times. This is, too!

714 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:12:45am

re: #708 Occasional Reader

Thanks.

715 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:12:54am

re: #711 aussiemagpie

Thanks! I'll go have a look...

otays...:) I need drop bears...:)

716 Rednek  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:12:55am

RTWT

A Message to THE RICH

You are not welcome in America any more. Take your wealth and prosperity and inventiveness and hard work and vision and insight and bold risk-taking and joy in seeing growth and wealth creation and just go away – right now, before it’s too late. Because if you stay, Joel Berg and Barack Obama and Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd will continue to come after you for more and more and more and they will not ever stop – not ever – until you are forced to flee. And when that day comes, you will go with not with fond remembrances and a desire to return home, but rather a black heart and hard and bitter memories.

So on behalf of those few of us who still believe in the Land of Opportunity, I beg you and implore you, in the name of our common patriot ancestors who worked so hard and sacrificed so much so that we could become so spoiled and ungrateful: take your 60% of the total income taxes and just go away.

717 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:13:13am

re: #704 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

An M-60 is cool - if you've never fired a Browning .50 cal on full auto! They let me shoot one in ROTC as compensation for "volunteering" for a duty & missing out on firing a Claymore.

"I'm Green with Envy'...and drooling...

718 subsailor68  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:13:35am

Morning everyone!

On the John Kennedy accomplishments, I didn't see anyone mention:

Tax Cuts

719 x-wing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:13:35am

re: #699 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What's the current Euro-dollar exchange?

Around 1 USD to .735 EURO. That was Mon.

720 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:13:58am

re: #716 Rednek

RTWT

A Message to THE RICH

You should point out that this is written by Bill Whittle, and is an excellent piece!

721 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:14:06am

re: #485 realwest

Yup, absolute, classic Narcissist!
How are you ciaospirit?

Sorry, rw, my puter putered out. Doin' well. Had to take a pay cut to keep my job. Thanks for the stimulus there, Hussein.

722 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:14:06am

re: #704 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

An M-60 is cool - if you've never fired a Browning .50 cal on full auto!

Oh yeah? Well, Nikita Kruschev let ME detonate the Tsar Bomba. Top that!

723 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:14:11am

re: #681 Walter L. Newton

Let's publish the letter. I bet a hell of a lot of informed Americans can tell the little chief what it all means. Save him money on a consultant.

Strange how the Chief quoted other parts of the letter but not the religious part...makes me smell a PC rat.
Also interesting that the note was apparently written 2 weeks before the shootings but post-marked the day of the shootings, which tells me that the guy may have been nuts but this thing was certainly premeditated.

724 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:14:27am

re: #707 gmsc

With all the doom and gloom stuff about how America is doomed the dollar is still nice and strong. I only wish I had some dollars to spend. I could clean up at one of the London auctions these dyas. Nobody's buying anything these days. Prices are low and the dollar's strong.

725 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:14:28am

re: #614 Pietr I'm ok, thanks Pietr. The weather is cold, cloudy and windy!
In fact, we just hit 43 degrees, only 10 away from the expected high!
How are you doing today?

726 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:15:00am

re: #702 Occasional Reader

Huh. Interesting, since from what I've read, US POWs in German camps actually had a survival rate that was (very slightly) higher than Germans in US camps. Japanese camps... whole 'nother story.

I thought so too. But at the end, Germany didn't have many groceries to spare. And they moved the camp a couple of times to get away from the advancing allies.

I'm not saying that he held a grudge, but he never owned anything German-made, as far as I know. Not even one of those fine bolt action Mausers that were so cheap after the war.

727 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:15:58am

re: #716 Rednek

I beg you and implore you, in the name of our common patriot ancestors who worked so hard and sacrificed so much so that we could become so spoiled and ungrateful: take your 60% of the total income taxes and just go away.


I read that yesterday and I don't think I'm getting the nuance. Is he being sarcastic/snarky?

728 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:15:58am

The Walrus and The Carpenter
by Lewis Carroll

Youtube Video
729 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:16:01am

re: #710 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The Germans treated the Americans & Western allies in their POW camps fairly well, mostly in accordance with the Geneva Conventions. The Russian POWs however, were treated as worse than animals.

Yep. And if I'm not mistaken, the Germans did not select out the Jews from Western POWs for "special treatment", for the most part. They did with the Russians.

730 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:16:02am

re: #712 Iron Fist

But it is something new. Whether or not Obama is really a Mohammedan, he has chosen to let what he learned in Madrassa come to the fore front, and give the Mohammedans the hope that he is really one of them, and will help further their adgenda. As I asked the other day, what more could Obama do further Iran's nuclear program if he really is working against America and for Iran?

That's expanding the bow screw up beyond reason IMHO. The Arab press has not even noticed it yet.

731 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:16:06am

re: #668 Ward Cleaver

Way cool.

Does B Hussein allow that many cars? WHERE'S THE SACRIFICE?

732 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:16:42am

The Bush Six

A Spanish court took the first steps toward starting a criminal investigation of the same six former Bush Administration officials he had named, weighing charges that they had enabled and abetted torture by justifying the abuse of terrorism suspects. Among those whom the court singled out was Feith, the former Under-Secretary of Defense for Policy, along with former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales; John Yoo, a former Justice Department lawyer; and David Addington, the chief of staff and the principal legal adviser to Vice-President Dick Cheney.

...if arrest warrants are issued, the Obama Administration may be forced either to extradite the former officials or to start its own investigation. Sands, who admires Obama, said, “I regret that I have added to his in-box when he has so much else to sort out. But I hope he does the right thing. There’s not much dispute anymore: torture happened, and the law is clear—torture must be punished.”

Unless of course you happen to be a China, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Jordan, Yemen, Sudan, Egypt, Syria, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, Sudan, Morocco, and so on and so on... "the law is clear" only applies to the US and even then only to Bush administration officials.

733 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:17:36am

re: #724 Killgore Trout

the dollar is still nice and strong.

Yes, but I am more than a little worried whether it can remain that way, what with all the dollars Timmy is printing up in the basement at this very moment.

734 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:17:38am

re: #730 avanti

The Arab press has not even noticed it yet.

They noticed.

735 jorline  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:19:05am

re: #694 realwest

Hello my friend! Yes, I'm feeling ok, thanks. How are y'all doing?
BTW, please check your e-mail when you get a chance!

I responded to your late night email early in the morning. I took my Ambian, it took me 30 minutes to write the email...spent a lot of the time dozing on my keyboard...lol

/drooling plays hell on one's laptop

736 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:19:58am

re: #703 gmsc

You're welcome. There's roughly 1,700 quizzes there, so take your time.
;)

I've just had a look! Excellent stuff you have there, and I'll try and open your site at work

A quiz or two between patients will be be lovely

737 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:20:02am

Randy Newman - Political Science


Youtube Video
738 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:20:55am

re: #735 jorline

I responded to your late night email early in the morning. I took my Ambian, it took me 30 minutes to write the email...spent a lot of the time dozing on my keyboard...lol

/drooling plays hell on one's laptop

A case of Sham-Ways for you...:)

739 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:21:22am

re: #619 jcm He didn't fess up to it until about six years or so ago and has been in hiding ever since - I know cause on occassion I'd go looking for him to, ah, chat! Course he is now about 92 years old so I imagine that Robert Strange McNamara (appropriate middle name) doesn't get out and about very much.

740 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:21:44am

re: #725 realwest

I've been doing well, but the missus has been less than happy and healthy. And she keeps watching the Verdamnt BO Campaign speeches, which does not help her blood pressure...:>((

Oh, your mom is diabetic, right? I've found that some canned fruit (Libbys ?) and some candy is now using Splenda-I get it for the missus. Look for the 'Splenda' logo and info on the label...

741 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:21:47am

re: #715 Dustyvet

otays...:) I need drop bears...:)

I'll send some over to your city then!

742 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:22:07am

re: #741 aussiemagpie

I'll send some over to your city then!

TA...:)

743 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:22:33am

2,724 messages to go before we hit 7 million!

744 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:22:51am

re: #710 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The Germans treated the Americans & Western allies in their POW camps fairly well, mostly in accordance with the Geneva Conventions. The Russian POWs however, were treated as worse than animals.

The part of Arkansas in which I was reared was German-settled. Rice country, too, to compound the irony. My wife's maternal grandmother spoke with a thick German accent until she died, even though she'd been born in the state. Her family spoke German in the home. Wander around Stuttgart and you'll see more blue-eyed blondes than you can shake a stick at.

But, when the time came (both times), they put on the uniform and went off to kill their kinfolk.

745 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:23:18am

re: #734 ciaospirit

They noticed.

Interesting that when Obama mentioned yesterday in Turkey that he had Mulims in his family including his father who was from Africa...that he forgot to mention that his father was a dead-beat who abandoned the family or that his relatives in Africa live in substandard conditions yet they do not deserve any bailout from him.

746 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:23:42am

re: #737 Dustyvet

Randy Newman - Political Science

[Video]

One of my favorite Randy Newman songs.

747 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:24:01am

re: #641 jwb7605
And if you don't fight for the country there are no other puzzle pieces left.

748 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:25:37am

re: #744 razorbacker

and you'll see more blue-eyed blondes

Those are the evil people who caused the financial crisis!

-Presidente Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva

749 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:26:28am
750 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:26:56am

re: #742 Dustyvet

TA...:)

I've just sent five drop bears to your city :-)

751 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:27:05am

re: #697 Pietr

Youtube Video
752 x-wing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:28:06am

re: #749 Iron Fist

Mennonite?

753 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:28:08am

re: #743 gmsc

2,724 messages to go before we hit 7 million!

I'd better stay up all night then to be a contender :-)

754 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:28:10am

re: #750 aussiemagpie

I've just sent five drop bears to your city :-)

They just ate my Police Kiosk...:)

755 Aye Pod  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:28:21am

I think we need a system here: every time 'tshup' downdings a link in spin-offs for no discernable reason, a post should be placed in the comments section about what an unhappy little squirt 'tshup' is.

756 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:28:56am

re: #749 Iron Fist

As Johny Walker Lindh proved, your screamingest excrement fling waste-of-skin Islamonazi can look perfectly natural in a cosmopolitan setting. Or, for that matter, in a Southern Baptist Church. The son of a bitch cleaned up real quick after he was caught and brought before John Law. Wasn't there another revert who went on a shooting spree not so terribly long ago?

It will be interesting to see what this religious motive was. I can only thing of one religion that condones, even encourages, ritualized murder-suicide as a doctrine.

Let's not forget the 'CONVERTS' (sleepers?) etc., who fragged officers when we were in Kuwait staging for Iraq...

757 Silhouette  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:29:01am

re: #737 Dustyvet

Randy Newman - Political Science

You know, I've just about had it Up. To. Here. with his kangaroo protectionism. Why can't we hurt a kangaroo? Really, I mean really, what have kangaroos got to offer the world other than boxing skills?

758 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:29:22am

re: #724 Killgore Trout

With all the doom and gloom stuff about how America is doomed the dollar is still nice and strong. I only wish I had some dollars to spend. I could clean up at one of the London auctions these dyas. Nobody's buying anything these days. Prices are low and the dollar's strong.

Until inflation kicks in, which should be a doozy. Companies are laying off and will continue to for a while, the economy will very slowly start its trek back up, but inventories will remain low. That's when we'll see the effects of pumping trillions of newly printed dollars into the economy.

Inflation = to many $$ chasing too few goods.

759 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:29:45am

re: #747 realwest

And if you don't fight for the country there are no other puzzle pieces left.

I'm too old to physically fight again, so I'll continue to fight in other ways. I intend to be sneaky and insidious. That seems to have been a winning tactic for the enemy.

760 MikeAlv77  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:29:53am

re: #732 Kenneth

Thats cause only the US cares about rights and will follow the rule of law. Those other countries just laugh in this guy's face...

761 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:30:09am

Turk Official: No Threat to Assassinate Obama
Authorities say Turkish police have arrested a man who claims to have plotted to kill President Obama during his visit to muslim ally Turkey.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

They released him? I thought they put you in Jail over there and threw away the key?

762 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:30:30am

I see Instapundit decided to leave up his post based on financial analysis from Lew Rockwell's blog. Oh, well. I guess it shouldn't be surprising but life is full of disappointments. Ron Paul's economics has finally found a home with conservatives. Good luck with that, guys.

763 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:30:50am

re: #757 Silhouette

You know, I've just about had it Up. To. Here. with his kangaroo protectionism. Why can't we hurt a kangaroo? Really, I mean really, what have kangaroos got to offer the world other than boxing skills?

They make wonderful laundry bags, pouches that bounce...:)

764 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:31:01am

re: #745 Spare O'Lake

Interesting that when Obama mentioned yesterday in Turkey that he had Mulims in his family including his father who was from Africa...that he forgot to mention that his father was a dead-beat who abandoned the family or that his relatives in Africa live in substandard conditions yet they do not deserve any bailout from him.

The guy knows how to spin a story depending on the audience. He was hoping to get some favorable press to push his popularity up so he can ram home his agenda, and was successful according to new polling .
I agree that the mention, no mention of the middle name thing is a perfect example of spin as is the ancestry thing.

765 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:31:03am

re: #712 Iron Fist
I am not alleging that Obama is a Muslim either, but he was taking Koranic studies during his formative years. He "Converted " to Christianity.
Converted from what? He won't say.
Interesting that he joins a radical Christian Church being run by a former member of the Nation of Islam

766 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:31:12am

re: #758 Russkilitlover

Until inflation kicks in, which should be a doozy. Companies are laying off and will continue to for a while, the economy will very slowly start its trek back up, but inventories will remain low. That's when we'll see the effects of pumping trillions of newly printed dollars into the economy.

Inflation = to many $$ chasing too few goods.

Hurrah! Razorbacker is gonna be a multimillionaire! Yaahooo!

767 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:31:35am

re: #743 gmsc

2,724 messages to go before we hit 7 million!

786,993,000,000 to go to match One-offs' postings.

768 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:31:45am

This video of the NoKo missile launch shows a surveillance satellite image of the exhaust trail from the rocket. From this image one can see that the trajectory of the missile is to the north east. The North Korea gov't has insisted they successfully launched a communications satellite. This claim is now demonstrably false. To be useful, a com-satellite must be lifted into geostationary orbit above the equator. This rocket was aimed in the wrong direction to achieve a geostationary orbit. The only conclusion is no satellite was launched, nor was there even such a satellite on the rocket.

769 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:31:54am

re: #758 Russkilitlover

I'm pretty sure the Fed has a plan on how to handle inflation.

770 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:32:12am

re: #766 razorbacker

Hurrah! Razorbacker is gonna be a multimillionaire! Yaahooo!

How to prepare and handle your money for the coming inflation:

gmsc's money tips #24 (Part 1): [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
gmsc's money tips #24 (Part 2): [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

771 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:32:17am

re: #743 gmsc

2,724 messages to go before we hit 7 million!

One ID thread ought to do it.

772 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:32:19am

re: #749 Iron Fist


It will be interesting to see what this religious motive was. I can only thing of one religion that condones, even encourages, ritualized murder-suicide as a doctrine.

Lutheran - but only after a bad plate of lutefisk.

773 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:32:29am

re: #762 Killgore Trout

I see Instapundit decided to leave up his post based on financial analysis from Lew Rockwell's blog. Oh, well. I guess it shouldn't be surprising but life is full of disappointments. Ron Paul's economics has finally found a home with conservatives. Good luck with that, guys.

To which post are you referring?

774 Kragar  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:32:52am

re: #769 Killgore Trout

I'm pretty sure the Fed has a plan on how to handle inflation.

Deploy troops to quell the rioters?

775 subsailor68  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:33:01am

re: #762 Killgore Trout

I see Instapundit decided to leave up his post based on financial analysis from Lew Rockwell's blog. Oh, well. I guess it shouldn't be surprising but life is full of disappointments. Ron Paul's economics has finally found a home with conservatives. Good luck with that, guys.

Mornin' Killgore!

Ron Paul? Not so much. I kinda prefer:

Adam Smith
Milton Friedman
Thomas Sowell

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed sometimes, but at least I can understand what those guys are saying.

;-)

776 AmeriDan  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:33:17am

re: #771 Kenneth

One ID thread ought to do it.

Only if the deleted post are counted.

777 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:33:56am

re: #769 Killgore Trout

I'm pretty sure the Fed has a plan on how to handle inflation.

re: #774 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Deploy troops to quell the rioters?

Give every citizen a wheelbarrel to carry the cash needed to buy a Pepsi!

778 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:34:02am

re: #765 opnion

I am not alleging that Obama is a Muslim either, but he was taking Koranic studies during his formative years. He "Converted " to Christianity.
Converted from what? He won't say.
Interesting that he joins a radical Christian Church being run by a former member of the Nation of Islam

I really have no idea and do not even want to spend to much brain power ( since mine is limited) on whether Obama was ever a muslim; HOWEVER, his choice of that Black Liberation anti-Semitic anti-white chicken coming home to roast "church" is absolutely revealing and anyone who doesn't recognize that...well..must have voted for him I guess!

779 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:34:10am

re: #769 Killgore Trout

I'm pretty sure the Fed has a plan on how to handle inflation.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...breathe...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...gasp, breathe...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA!

Oh, my! That was a good one Killgore! Wow, tears are streaming down my face. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. Thank you for that!/

780 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:34:10am

re: #757 Silhouette

You know, I've just about had it Up. To. Here. with his kangaroo protectionism. Why can't we hurt a kangaroo? Really, I mean really, what have kangaroos got to offer the world other than boxing skills?

Nice steak...

781 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:34:48am

re: #774 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Deploy troops to quell the rioters?

That comes after 'Declaring martial law, and suspending the Constitution'...so hopefully, not...

782 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:34:57am

re: #768 Kenneth

This video of the NoKo missile launch shows a surveillance satellite image of the exhaust trail from the rocket. From this image one can see that the trajectory of the missile is to the north east. The North Korea gov't has insisted they successfully launched a communications satellite. This claim is now demonstrably false. To be useful, a com-satellite must be lifted into geostationary orbit above the equator. This rocket was aimed in the wrong direction to achieve a geostationary orbit. The only conclusion is no satellite was launched, nor was there even such a satellite on the rocket.

They were saying it was a satellite to broadcast some songs about how great North Korea or Kim are. That could be in a different orbit.
I doubt North Korea has the technology for a real communication satellite.
But I also don't think it made it to orbit.

783 Dianna  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:35:02am

I just got the weirdest email from a lady I know from a local history group. I can't think of any way to verify it, and I couldn't help anyway, but I can't imagine an 80 year old woman stuck in a foreign country.

784 freetoken  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:35:06am

re: #762 Killgore Trout

And PajamasMedia keeps running articles on climate by a guy who runs a personal training outfit. This is what "expert" means to those who so loudly profess themselves to be "conservatives."

785 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:35:06am

re: #765 opnion

I am not alleging that Obama is a Muslim either, but he was taking Koranic studies during his formative years. He "Converted " to Christianity.
Converted from what? He won't say.
Interesting that he joins a radical Christian Church being run by a former member of the Nation of Islam

He still has not got a dog yet. I find that very strange.

786 badger1970  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:35:45am

re: #769 Killgore Trout

Does it involve chopping a head off of a chicken?

787 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:35:59am

re: #785 KenJen

He still has not got a dog yet. I find that very strange.

He's chosen several dogs, but none of them have paid their taxes.

788 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:36:07am

re: #780 aussiemagpie

Nice steak...

Kangaroo and shrimp for dinner...aka Skippy n Surf...:)

789 MikeAlv77  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:36:12am

re: #778 Nevergiveup

I really have no idea and do not even want to spend to much brain power ( since mine is limited) on whether Obama was ever a muslim; HOWEVER, his choice of that Black Liberation anti-Semitic anti-white chicken coming home to roast "church" is absolutely revealing and anyone who doesn't recognize that...well..must have voted for him I guess!

Amen brother... Amen! That alone should have told people all they needed to know about his beliefs.. but remember, he sat in pew but never heard them say anything like that... And the easter bunny promised me it was true...

790 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:36:31am

re: #768 Kenneth

Although they claimed a communication satellite, it was intended to be nothing more then a one way transmitter of patriotic music and would have been in a low earth orbit, not 24,000 miles out.

791 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:36:46am

re: #783 Dianna

I just got the weirdest email from a lady I know from a local history group. I can't think of any way to verify it, and I couldn't help anyway, but I can't imagine an 80 year old woman stuck in a foreign country.

Did she say she needs money wired to her to get out? And if you wire it to SpamBank, Nigeria, she'll be very grateful and give you half the money she has in a Nigerian bank account?

792 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:38:08am

re: #785 KenJen

He still has not got a dog yet. I find that very strange.

I assume you are joking.

793 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:38:30am

re: #757 Silhouette

You know, I've just about had it Up. To. Here. with his kangaroo protectionism. Why can't we hurt a kangaroo? Really, I mean really, what have kangaroos got to offer the world other than boxing skills?

I feel the same way about Canadian geese her in CT. We need an open season on those things. All they do is create a mess everywhere they land. Anyone know if they taste good? Maybe we could feed them to the homeless. Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak.

794 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:38:33am

re: #765 opnion

I am not alleging that Obama is a Muslim either, but he was taking Koranic studies during his formative years. He "Converted " to Christianity.
Converted from what? He won't say.
Interesting that he joins a radical Christian Church being run by a former member of the Nation of Islam

His mother was agnostic, & his grandparents were initially Methodists and then later joined the Unitarian Church. In his autobiography Obama wrote how he was "exposed" to a number of faiths when he was raised but that he did not become a member of any. He claims he was not into Islam, although he was taken to mosque several times in Indonesia (where he would certainly have been required to performed the Muslim prayers). When he was an adult, Michelle took him to Trinity United Church, where he credits Rev. J. Wright with "introducing me to my faith".

795 Silhouette  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:38:55am

re: #791 Kosh's Shadow

Did she say she needs money wired to her to get out? And if you wire it to SpamBank, Nigeria, she'll be very grateful and give you half the money she has in a Nigerian bank account?

Hey, I won the Italian lottery. I don't recall entering, but surely I should click the link in the email "just in case."

/

796 Dianna  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:39:07am

re: #791 Kosh's Shadow

Did she say she needs money wired to her to get out? And if you wire it to SpamBank, Nigeria, she'll be very grateful and give you half the money she has in a Nigerian bank account?

No, it's not Nigerian.

I'm contacting some other people in the group about it.

797 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:39:13am

re: #773 Occasional Reader

A post from last night titled "Oops". The source of the article is some nut writting at Lew Rockwell's blog. Google the guy for a laugh. He invented a new social order called "Panarchy". It's some sort of communal Jefersonian anarchy thing. Sounds fantastic.

798 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:39:22am

re: #787 gmsc

He's chosen several dogs, but none of them have paid their taxes.

They've seen how Obama handles bailouts. The doggies are sending him little notes saying, in effect, No thanks, we'll just stay here in the shelter. Thanks for the offer but...no.

799 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:39:43am

re: #768 Kenneth

The only conclusion is no satellite was launched, nor was there even such a satellite on the rocket.

It's yet another sign of the Nork regime's utter psychosis that they're going to insist on the existence of something that is demonstrably not there.

800 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:39:50am

re: #794 Kenneth

His mother was agnostic, & his grandparents were initially Methodists and then later joined the Unitarian Church. In his autobiography Obama wrote how he was "exposed" to a number of faiths when he was raised but that he did not become a member of any. He claims he was not into Islam, although he was taken to mosque several times in Indonesia (where he would certainly have been required to performed the Muslim prayers). When he was an adult, Michelle took him to Trinity United Church, where he credits Rev. J. Wright with "introducing me to my faith".

Urh... and who introduced Michelle to that low life wrong reverend Wright?

801 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:40:25am

re: #793 Ford_Prefect

I feel the same way about Canadian geese her in CT. We need an open season on those things. All they do is create a mess everywhere they land. Anyone know if they taste good? Maybe we could feed them to the homeless. Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak.

You need a hunting license, and a migratory fowl stamp-plus there is a limit. Don't forget, your shotgun must have a plug, so it holds no more than 3 rounds total...

802 AmeriDan  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:40:36am

re: #787 gmsc

He's chosen several dogs, but none of them have paid their taxes.

Heh. That makes them extremely qualified to serve in this administration.

803 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:40:53am

re: #798 Russkilitlover

They've seen how Obama handles bailouts. The doggies are sending him little notes saying, in effect, No thanks, we'll just stay here in the shelter. Thanks for the offer but...no.

Let's all chop in and get them a Great Dane Puppy...:)

804 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:41:27am

re: #792 avanti

I assume you are joking.

Never assume. He promised the kids he'd get a dog when he became President. Still no dog. Maybe he meant he'd get them a dog when he started acting presidential. That may explain it.

805 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:42:37am

re: #801 Pietr

You need a hunting license, and a migratory fowl stamp-plus there is a limit. Don't forget, your shotgun must have a plug, so it holds no more than 3 rounds total...

Would I be allowed to shoot the ones in my local public park?

/I am only half kidding. I really can't stand the things.

806 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:42:47am

re: #790 avanti

Although they claimed a communication satellite, it was intended to be nothing more then a one way transmitter of patriotic music and would have been in a low earth orbit, not 24,000 miles out.

Absolutly! Thats what the North Koreans need. In that they can;t feed most of their people, they NEEDED to spend millikns of dollars launching a communications satellite to broadcast music!

hmmm,,, what songs would take my mind off the fact that I'm FUCKING STARVING TO DEATH !

807 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:42:57am

re: #782 Kosh's Shadow

If a satellite is in a non-geostationary orbit, then it will move past North Korea every day as the satellite orbits earth. Uplink dishes on earth would have to pivot to track the satellite in order to communicate, for a the brief time the satellite is overhead. In short, the whole story is bullshit. There was no satellite. If the NoKo's want a com-sat, they could hire the Chinese to launch one for them for a fraction of the cost their missile program.

808 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:43:00am

re: #804 KenJen

Never assume. He promised the kids he'd get a dog when he became President. Still no dog. Maybe he meant he'd get them a dog when he started acting presidential. That may explain it.

I don't know about his kids but if I had promised my kids a dog and not come thru, I'd never hear the end of it.

809 x-wing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:43:12am

re: #800 Nevergiveup

Urh... and who introduced Michelle to that low life wrong reverend Wright?

Maybe Father Phlegers church was full at the time.

/

810 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:43:21am

re: #799 Occasional Reader

It's yet another sign of the Nork regime's utter psychosis that they're going to insist on the existence of something that is demonstrably not there.

I'll bet a beer that the Norks radio stations are broadcasting the sounds from the "communication satellite" launched by the Glorious Leader even though it's at the bottom of the ocean.

811 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:43:27am

re: #778 Nevergiveup

I really have no idea and do not even want to spend to much brain power ( since mine is limited) on whether Obama was ever a muslim; HOWEVER, his choice of that Black Liberation anti-Semitic anti-white chicken coming home to roast "church" is absolutely revealing and anyone who doesn't recognize that...well..must have voted for him I guess!

He claims that he attended that Church twice a month for 20 years.
He convinced the MSM & his followers that in all of those visits, he never heard Reverend Wright give an incendiary sermon.
You could only believe that if you just wanted to.

812 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:43:29am

re: #795 Silhouette

Hey, I won the Italian lottery. I don't recall entering, but surely I should click the link in the email "just in case."

/

Me too! What are the chances of that? Today is our lucky day!

813 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:43:32am

re: #783 Dianna

I just got the weirdest email from a lady I know from a local history group. I can't think of any way to verify it, and I couldn't help anyway, but I can't imagine an 80 year old woman stuck in a foreign country.

Another scam...

814 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:43:41am

re: #793 Ford_Prefect

They're greasy as all get out, so they're kinda self-basting.

Don't much care for goose. A favorite Christmas meal among my in-laws, though.

Prefer duck, myself.

815 AmeriDan  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:43:51am

re: #804 KenJen

Maybe he meant he'd get them a dog when he started acting presidential.

/not holding my breath waiting for that.

816 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:44:04am

re: #804 KenJen

Never assume. He promised the kids he'd get a dog when he became President. Still no dog. Maybe he meant he'd get them a dog when he started acting presidential. That may explain it.

The new White House dog

Image: cute-ugly-dog.jpg

817 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:44:38am

re: #806 sattv4u2

Absolutly! Thats what the North Koreans need. In that they can;t feed most of their people, they NEEDED to spend millikns of dollars launching a communications satellite to broadcast music!

hmmm,,, what songs would take my mind off the fact that I'm FUCKING STARVING TO DEATH !

Were you working last night? Since I am a big UNC fan I enjoyed the game, but for most people I guess it was over after 5 minutes.

818 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:44:43am

re: #810 avanti

I'll bet a beer that the Norks radio stations are broadcasting the sounds from the "communication satellite" launched by the Glorious Leader even though it's at the bottom of the ocean.

With that crazy underwater vibrato sound? Cool!

819 Dianna  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:45:04am

re: #813 aussiemagpie

Another scam...

I think so, which is why I'm emailing other group members.

820 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:45:11am

re: #790 avanti

Although they claimed a communication satellite, it was intended to be nothing more then a one way transmitter of patriotic music and would have been in a low earth orbit, not 24,000 miles out.

There is no satellite. The whole story is bogus. The NoKo's were testing a weapon delivery system.

821 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:45:39am

re: #651 Dustyvet
and
re: #654 Dustyvet
Hello Dusty. Thanks for those (and the prior) posts about Vietnam vets.
And I have only one "quibble" and one question. First of all "Vietnam veterans are white, black, beige and shades of gray; but in comparison with our numbers in the "real world," we were more likely black." is incorrect. According to the DoD records (sorry no linky) the percentage of Black Americans in the general population was not much different than that in Vietnam (iirc, 12.4% general population, 13.5% in Vietnam) and secondly, who is "Adam"?
And I would like to add that the Vietnam War was in actuality several wars: it lasted 11 LONG years, the first significant troops over there were truly advisors, then came the big load of 500,000 plus and suddenly we were in Mountains, Rice paddies, dry "plains", in the rivers and ocean off the coast and everywhere else in between and who you fought varied too: initially, indigenous South Vietnamese (the "Viet Cong") and as time went on,more often than not the regular North Vietnamese Army (and our pilots flew against Mig15's and 19' s piloted by Soviet Union fliers) and no matter where we were or when we were or what we did WE NEVER KNEW WHO THE ENEMY WAS. There were no "front lines" and the sweet little old mama san who would clean your tent and do your laundry would also sometimes measure the distance from the command bunker to the Ammo Dump to the Communication bunker and give that information to the Communist forces to use in mortar attacks. And the smiley faced little children who would sell you bottles of Coca Cola sometimes put pieces of ground glass - very finely ground glass - in the Coke on the hope that you'd die a very painful death as the ground glass ate up your stomach and intestines.
Thus the only people you trusted were your brothers in arms. Trust is something many Vietnam Veterans still do not do well.

822 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:45:47am

OT:
An Iraqi court reduced the sentence of the Bush shoe thrower.

823 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:46:02am

re: #788 Dustyvet

Kangaroo and shrimp for dinner...aka Skippy n Surf...:)

Surfing kangaroo :-)

Kangaroo meat is has a very strong flavour, and takes some getting used to, but cooked right it's very nice

824 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:46:06am

Good grief. Almost eleven o'clock.

I'd best get off my dead ass and onto my dying feet and see if I can't get something useful done.

Or at least something nondestructive, anyway.

825 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:46:11am

re: #810 avanti

I'll bet a beer that the Norks radio stations are broadcasting the sounds from the "communication satellite" launched by the Glorious Leader even though it's at the bottom of the ocean.

It's probably broadcasting that "filet-o-fish" song from the McDonald's commercial.

826 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:46:15am
827 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:46:17am

re: #797 Killgore Trout

A post from last night titled "Oops".

Well, fwiw, I've heard much that same analysis (that key US banks are in fact insolvent, not merely illiquid) on that notoriously hard-right-wing radio source, NPR (This American Life).

828 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:46:23am

re: #808 Nevergiveup

I don't know about his kids but if I had promised my kids a dog and not come thru, I'd never hear the end of it.

I'll bet kids of politicos are immune to parental promises.

829 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:46:30am

re: #814 razorbacker

They're greasy as all get out, so they're kinda self-basting.

Don't much care for goose. A favorite Christmas meal among my in-laws, though.

Prefer duck, myself.

Would they make a decent stew or something. Seriously, we could feed a lot of people in shelters with them. They are everywhere. Every park or reservoir with a pond has them. And they poop all over the place. Ducks at least are relatively clean. Geese just ruin the grass and ponds.

830 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:47:01am

re: #800 Nevergiveup

Urh... and who introduced Michelle to that low life wrong reverend Wright?

TUC is popular among upwardly mobile African Americans in Chicago, the kind of people with a chip on their shoulder and guilt about their affluence. They follow a consciously "more African than thou" attitude. It was a natural place for Michelle to find.

831 jorline  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:47:05am

re: #738 Dustyvet

A case of Sham-Ways for you...:)

Thanks, DV.

King Abdullah Sham-Bows

832 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:47:19am

re: #817 Nevergiveup

Were you working last night? Since I am a big UNC fan I enjoyed the game, but for most people I guess it was over after 5 minutes.

I was here just doing the set-ups (checking audio and video levels from the production truck ,,, making sure the transmission was up on satellite and helping any affiliate that was having trouble,,, etc)

I was home by opening tip

833 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:47:48am

re: #829 Ford_Prefect

Would they make a decent stew or something. Seriously, we could feed a lot of people in shelters with them. They are everywhere. Every park or reservoir with a pond has them. And they poop all over the place. Ducks at least are relatively clean. Geese just ruin the grass and ponds.

Geese are ornery birds.

834 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:47:57am

re: #794 Kenneth

His mother was agnostic, & his grandparents were initially Methodists and then later joined the Unitarian Church. In his autobiography Obama wrote how he was "exposed" to a number of faiths when he was raised but that he did not become a member of any. He claims he was not into Islam, although he was taken to mosque several times in Indonesia (where he would certainly have been required to performed the Muslim prayers). When he was an adult, Michelle took him to Trinity United Church, where he credits Rev. J. Wright with "introducing me to my faith".

Fair enough, but he seems to have a lot of affection for Islam.
He converted (his word) to Chistianity from something.
He has a lot of holes in his past & frankly I am reluctant to take him at his word about much.

835 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:48:51am

re: #799 Occasional Reader

It's yet another sign of the Nork regime's utter psychosis that they're going to insist on the existence of something that is demonstrably not there.

That claim was for their domestic propaganda purposes. Nobody else (aside from Avanti) believes there was a satellite on that missile.

836 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:48:52am

re: #807 Kenneth

It was always a ruse to test their long range missiles. It was never about putting a satellite in orbit, although given the unstable thinking of L'il Kim, he might have demanded something that his techies simply were incapable of doing.

The regime wants long range missiles, and this one clearly went nearly 2,000 miles. They got what they needed out of the test, and the UN was as ineffectual as ever.

837 badger1970  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:49:01am

re: #800 Nevergiveup

In putting that in those terms, it does sound like the story of Eden and the fall of man.

838 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:49:05am

BREAKING:
Judge Says Stevens Prosecution Worst He's Seen
U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan is expected to dismiss charges against the former Alaska senator on Tuesday.

WASHINGTON -- A federal judge criticized the government's handling of the Ted Stevens corruption trial Tuesday as he considered whether to dismiss the conviction that ended the longest-serving Republican's 40-year career in the U.S. Senate.

"In nearly 25 years on the bench, I've never seen anything approaching the mishandling and misconduct that I've seen in this case," U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan said in the opening moments of a hearing.

Sullivan read a stinging summary of the many times the government withheld evidence or mishandled witnesses in the case.

Sen. Ted Stevens was convicted of lying on Senate financial forms about gifts he received from wealthy friends. But Attorney General Eric Holder asked that the case be dismissed, saying Stevens did not receive a fair trial.

If the motion is granted as expected, it will erase a high-profile victory against congressional corruption reached last year when a jury found the senator had lied about gifts and home renovations.

839 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:49:16am

re: #829 Ford_Prefect

Would they make a decent stew or something. Seriously, we could feed a lot of people in shelters with them. They are everywhere. Every park or reservoir with a pond has them. And they poop all over the place. Ducks at least are relatively clean. Geese just ruin the grass and ponds.

Your Canuckophobia will not be tolerated on this blog, sirrah!

840 Silhouette  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:49:17am

re: #829 Ford_Prefect

Would they make a decent stew or something. Seriously, we could feed a lot of people in shelters with them. They are everywhere. Every park or reservoir with a pond has them. And they poop all over the place. Ducks at least are relatively clean. Geese just ruin the grass and ponds.

My plan is to move them all to the US/Mexico border, in between the two eventual fences. Best alarm system ever. Mean, aggressive, make a heck of a racket, and they'll work for chicken feed.

841 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:49:29am

re: #828 Russkilitlover

I'll bet kids of politicos are immune to parental promises.

Not that it matters, but I think the kids will get the dog this month. They said they wanted the kids to settle in to their new life and at least find their way around the White House.

842 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:49:40am

re: #833 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Geese are ornery birds.

Yes they are. Very aggressive. If someone is stupid enough to start feeding them bread they get chased all over the park.

843 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:50:05am
844 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:50:26am

re: #834 opnion

Fair enough, but he seems to have a lot of affection for Islam.
He converted (his word) to Chistianity from something.
He has a lot of holes in his past & frankly I am reluctant to take him at his word about much.

I never heard or read Obama use the word "converted" in regards to his faith. Do you have a link? The verb he used in his book is that the Rev. Wright "introduced" him to his faith.

845 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:50:27am

re: #812 Kenneth

Me too! What are the chances of that? Today is our lucky day!


I got contacted by a guy who was an exec with Sierra Leone Diamonds Ltd.
He just wants to park his millions in my account & I get a third!
Easy money

846 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:50:30am

re: #821 realwest

Realwest, the writer was answering a question from a college student named Adam, I was trying to get all of it posted.

847 subsailor68  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:50:31am

re: #821 realwest

Hi RW! Hope you're well this morning! To your point about percentage of black soldiers in Vietnam, yep, you're right. Here's a link that includes a quote from Larry Elder's book, "Stupid Black Men" (haven't read it yet, but hear it's great):

Best Conservative Book of 2008

From that link:

And by the way: "During the Vietnam War draft era, blacks comprised 13.5 percent of the population. Of those who died in Vietnam, 12.5 percent were black..." Another popular anti-war liberal myth bites the dust.

848 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:50:39am

re: #835 Kenneth

That claim was for their domestic propaganda purposes. Nobody else (aside from Avanti) believes there was a satellite on that missile.

Hey, speak for yourself, personally I'm looking forward to getting North Korean satellite t.v.

849 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:51:10am

re: #829 Ford_Prefect

Would they make a decent stew or something. Seriously, we could feed a lot of people in shelters with them. They are everywhere. Every park or reservoir with a pond has them. And they poop all over the place. Ducks at least are relatively clean. Geese just ruin the grass and ponds.

Don't mistake me, my father-in-law raved about roast goose. But the man ate squirrel brains and eggs and claimed they were tasty, too. So maybe you should keep that in mind.

But the 'Christmas goose' goes back at least to Victorian times. Remember what they went off to buy for dinner in the 'Christmas Carol'?

Y'all enjoy the day, or what is left of it.

850 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:51:23am

re: #848 Occasional Reader

Hey, speak for yourself, personally I'm looking forward to getting North Korean satellite t.v.

It will be alot like that log burning we used to get on X-mas--remember?

851 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:51:31am

re: #819 Dianna

I think so, which is why I'm emailing other group members.

One of my friends had such a request through Facebook - another friend was stranded in London after having everything stolen, money, passport etc and could Margaret please send a certain amount of money straight away!

This is now a well known scam - and it's getting people in by being a bit more authentic than offers by Nigerian princes...

852 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:51:37am

re: #842 Ford_Prefect

Yes they are. Very aggressive. If someone is stupid enough to start feeding them bread they get chased all over the park.

I've heard that in Vietnam, geese were preferred to guard dogs in some villages - they were louder & nastier.

853 AmeriDan  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:51:48am

re: #829 Ford_Prefect

Seriously, we could feed a lot of people in shelters with them.

Let them eat cake.

854 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:52:12am

re: #839 Occasional Reader

Your Canuckophobia will not be tolerated on this blog, sirrah!

Just the geese, not the people. The people make good beer and play great hockey.

BTW, apologies for my comment yesterday that got downdinged repeatedly. It deserved it. One of those type and post before thinking moments.

855 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:52:24am

re: #849 razorbacker

Don't mistake me, my father-in-law raved about roast goose.

I've had goose; it's pretty good.

856 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:52:27am

re: #852 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I've heard that in Vietnam, geese were preferred to guard dogs in some villages - they were louder & nastier.

and not as tasty!

857 Dianna  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:52:53am

re: #851 aussiemagpie

One of my friends had such a request through Facebook - another friend was stranded in London after having everything stolen, money, passport etc and could Margaret please send a certain amount of money straight away!

This is now a well known scam - and it's getting people in by being a bit more authentic than offers by Nigerian princes...

Yes, that's rather what I thought. For one thing, I can't imagine an 80 year old lady getting stuck in London.

858 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:53:34am

re: #844 Kenneth

I never heard or read Obama use the word "converted" in regards to his faith. Do you have a link? The verb he used in his book is that the Rev. Wright "introduced" him to his faith.

I do not have the link, but it was during a local Chicago radio interview.
He said that he converted & was asked "converted form what?"
His answer, "Oh I have been lots of things."

859 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:53:41am

re: #849 razorbacker

But the 'Christmas goose' goes back at least to Victorian times. Remember what they went off to buy for dinner in the 'Christmas Carol'?

Y'all enjoy the day, or what is left of it.

Read that book every year.

Later Razor.

860 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:53:49am

BREAKING ,,, Pres. Obama makes unexpected stop in Iraq

(sorry ,, I have no link,, i'm picking this up at work off a satellite)

861 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:53:58am

re: #841 avanti

Not that it matters, but I think the kids will get the dog this month. They said they wanted the kids to settle in to their new life and at least find their way around the White House.

Oh, I'm sure they will get one. It's a terrific photo-op. It just bugs me when politicians get a dog just for the publicity or to deflect. The Clintons got that beautiful lab, named it, stupidly, Buddy, paraded him in front of cameras for a while and then lost interest. Buddy was hit by a car and killed shortly after they left office.

Dogs deserve better.

862 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:53:58am

re: #827 Occasional Reader

It's an entirely possible scenario but a Utopian nut from Lew Rockwell is not a credible source.

863 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:54:22am

re: #857 Dianna

Yes, that's rather what I thought. For one thing, I can't imagine an 80 year old lady getting stuck in London.

The Tower of London has a great Lost and Found Department...:)

864 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:54:41am

re: #854 Ford_Prefect

The people make good beer

I will cheerfully throw down the gauntlet on that. Or run the gantlet. Or something. American beer today stands up to anybody... well, okay, with the possible exception of the Belgians, but we're not far behind them. Maybe some our Canucks can enlighten me, but I'm not aware of any great Canadian microbrews.


No problem about the silly post, we all do it.

865 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:54:50am

Obama is speaking at Camp "Victory"? Hum that seem a tad disingenuous to anyone else? Shouldn't he be speaking at Camp "Cut & Run".

866 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:55:08am

re: #855 Occasional Reader

I've had goose; it's pretty good.

I've gotten mine cooked a few times, but I've never eaten eat.

867 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:55:10am

re: #740 Pietr
Thanks for that Splenda tip! We will look for it!

868 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:55:13am

re: #860 sattv4u2

BREAKING ,,, Pres. Obama makes unexpected stop in Iraq

(sorry ,, I have no link,, i'm picking this up at work off a satellite)

It's all over the place.

869 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:55:27am

re: #807 Kenneth

If a satellite is in a non-geostationary orbit, then it will move past North Korea every day as the satellite orbits earth. Uplink dishes on earth would have to pivot to track the satellite in order to communicate, for a the brief time the satellite is overhead. In short, the whole story is bullshit. There was no satellite. If the NoKo's want a com-sat, they could hire the Chinese to launch one for them for a fraction of the cost their missile program.

It isn't a communication satellite; it just broadcasts some stupid songs.
Probably only to the fishes now.

870 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:55:41am

re: #848 Occasional Reader

Hey, speak for yourself, personally I'm looking forward to getting North Korean satellite t.v.

Here you go...

Youtube Video
871 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:55:47am

re: #838 gmsc

BREAKING:
Judge Says Stevens Prosecution Worst He's Seen
U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan is expected to dismiss charges against the former Alaska senator on Tuesday.

When ACORN isn't available, use the courts to win.

872 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:56:19am

re: #868 Nevergiveup

It's all over the place.

I know ,, my phones were ringing off the hook and I couldn't post it

873 jorline  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:56:23am

He's still throwing strikes!

Bush returns to Arlington for first pitch

ARLINGTON -- Former President George W. Bush received a strong standing ovation from Rangers fans as he walked to the mound on Monday afternoon at the Ballpark in Arlington to throw out the ceremonial first pitch on Opening Day.


Welcome home President Bush!

874 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:56:39am

re: #857 Dianna

Yes, that's rather what I thought. For one thing, I can't imagine an 80 year old lady getting stuck in London.

Dianna, there are, after all, plenty of 80 year old men in London. The lady may well get stuck.

*razorbacker sprints for the door, laughing like a maniac.*

875 Spiritualized  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:56:48am

Steyn is filling in for Limbaugh again today:

Streamingradioguide - lots of places to listen live if you're outside U.S.

Guest host: Mark Steyn... the Apology Schtick is getting out of hand, bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia, North Korea's missile launch

876 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:56:53am

re: #869 Kosh's Shadow

It isn't a communication satellite; it just broadcasts some stupid songs.
Probably only to the fishes now.

And now the Sea Kittens will sing...The Boogie-Woogie Bass of Company C...:)

877 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:56:58am

re: #864 Occasional Reader

I will cheerfully throw down the gauntlet on that. Or run the gantlet. Or something. American beer today stands up to anybody... well, okay, with the possible exception of the Belgians, but we're not far behind them. Maybe some our Canucks can enlighten me, but I'm not aware of any great Canadian microbrews.

No problem about the silly post, we all do it.

I said they make good beer, not great beer. Prefer the microbrews as well.

878 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:57:21am

I have a security question for anyone who knows. When Obama or any President speaks to the Troops in a War Zone, are the Military Personal armed? Or do they have to disarm before entering?

879 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:57:28am

re: #793 Ford_Prefect

I feel the same way about Canadian geese her in CT. We need an open season on those things. All they do is create a mess everywhere they land. Anyone know if they taste good? Maybe we could feed them to the homeless. Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak.

Please, America, kill our Canadian Geese for us, we hate them too but we don't have the firepower!

880 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:57:33am

re: #857 Dianna

Yes, that's rather what I thought. For one thing, I can't imagine an 80 year old lady getting stuck in London.

My friend really did think something was wrong, however she was amazed that this friend hadn't told her she was going to London

Of course when Margaret called her she was here in Australia and definitely not in trouble in London

881 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:58:00am

re: #849 razorbacker

But the 'Christmas goose' goes back at least to Victorian times. Remember what they went off to buy for dinner in the 'Christmas Carol'?

My family has a recorded version of "A Christmas Carol", narrated by Basil Rathbone, that we've played every year since I was a child at Christmastime. When the Cratchit kids return from the butcher's shop with the goose, one of the lads exclaims, "ain't he a whopper?" We had years of fun with that, imagining the Cratchit children running back home from Burger King.

882 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:58:05am

re: #755 Jimmah
Uh, who is this unhappy little squirt 'tshup'? Is he one of those - registered only to give downdings, not to exhange ideas in any way?
Methinks Charles ought to institute the idea he floated a week or so ago - if you don't post at least once every two months, you're account is cancelled.

883 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:58:10am

re: #878 Nevergiveup

I have a security question for anyone who knows. When Obama or any President speaks to the Troops in a War Zone, are the Military Personal armed? Or do they have to disarm before entering?

Yup...their armed...

884 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:58:13am

re: #845 opnion

I got contacted by a guy who was an exec with Sierra Leone Diamonds Ltd.
He just wants to park his millions in my account & I get a third!
Easy money

A few years ago, Suha Arafat wanted help in getting her late husbands [extortion] money.
Funny name her solicitor had, a Mr. Batman.

885 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:58:20am

re: #835 Kenneth

That claim was for their domestic propaganda purposes. Nobody else (aside from Avanti) believes there was a satellite on that missile.

US intelligence thought there was a satellite. It was just one of those basketball sized, little more then a beeper jobs. It makes no difference if that was used as a cover. If you can orbit a satellite, you have a ICBM. Had it have reached orbit, they could claim a peaceful purpose for what was in reality, a ICBM test.

886 Dianna  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:58:39am

re: #880 aussiemagpie

My friend really did think something was wrong, however she was amazed that this friend hadn't told her she was going to London

Of course when Margaret called her she was here in Australia and definitely not in trouble in London

Sounds about right.

887 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:58:51am

re: #869 Kosh's Shadow

There is no evidence that there was ever a satellite on the missile. Only the unsubstantiated claim by the NoKo gov't. The missile was going in the wrong direction to launch a satellite.

888 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:59:22am

re: #759 jwb7605
OK - mind moving over a bit so I can have some room on your bench?!

889 Dianna  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 8:59:36am

re: #882 realwest

Uh, who is this unhappy little squirt 'tshup'? Is he one of those - registered only to give downdings, not to exhange ideas in any way?
Methinks Charles ought to institute the idea he floated a week or so ago - if you don't post at least once every two months, you're account is cancelled.

I hope not - neither my Male nor my boss, both members, post much.

890 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:00:08am

re: #861 Russkilitlover
You're right. The Obamas dont seem like dog people to me anyway. Too
much responsibility goes into owning a dog.

891 x-wing  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:00:30am

re: #860 sattv4u2

BREAKING ,,, Pres. Obama makes unexpected stop in Iraq

(sorry ,, I have no link,, i'm picking this up at work off a satellite)

Drudge has it. Here it is.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

892 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:00:32am

re: #884 Kosh's Shadow

A few years ago, Suha Arafat wanted help in getting her late husbands [extortion] money.
Funny name her solicitor had, a Mr. Batman.

Mr Batman? Oh that's beautiful. Suha should be a waitress, "Hey baby, this toast is burned. Want to get two new pieces sweetheart?"

893 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:00:56am
re: #774 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Deploy troops to quell the rioters?


re: #781 Pietr

That comes after 'Declaring martial law, and suspending the Constitution'...so hopefully, not...

The unthinkable situation.
Which of us would take up against our sons?
Which of us have sons that would obey the order?

... which side would be "fighting for our country"?

894 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:01:32am

re: #886 Dianna

Sounds about right.

It's just terrible to think people's identities are being pinched to use in these despicable scams

895 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:01:42am

re: #888 realwest

OK - mind moving over a bit so I can have some room on your bench?!

Make room on the bench...:)


Youtube Video
896 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:01:51am

re: #883 Dustyvet

Yup...their armed...

Safety's on?
/

897 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:02:04am

re: #885 avanti

Do you have a link to a US intelligence assessment of that missile launch?

898 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:02:14am

re: #888 realwest

OK - mind moving over a bit so I can have some room on your bench?!

Not at all. We can reminisce about the good ole days!

899 JustMyView  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:03:25am

re: #871 ciaospirit

When ACORN isn't available, use the courts to win.

You realize Stevens was prosecuted by a Republican DOJ, right?

900 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:04:24am

re: #896 Nevergiveup

Safety's on?
/

Well when we had VIP's in Vietnam, We had the safety's on, and the weapon cleared. But we still had the 20 round clips in our uniforms.

901 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:04:37am

re: #887 Kenneth

There is no evidence that there was ever a satellite on the missile. Only the unsubstantiated claim by the NoKo gov't. The missile was going in the wrong direction to launch a satellite.

You doubt the word of Kim Jong Il?

*draws epee*

902 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:05:10am

re: #865 Nevergiveup

Obama is speaking at Camp "Victory"? Hum that seem a tad disingenuous to anyone else? Shouldn't he be speaking at Camp "Cut & Run".

I'm actually happy to see the troops actually seem excited by the visit. They may not have voted for him, but they seem to appreciate the gesture. I'm not so cynical as to think it's all a PR move, although I'm sure we'll hear that.

903 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:06:12am

re: #900 Dustyvet

Well when we had VIP's in Vietnam, We had the safety's on, and the weapon cleared. But we still had the 20 round clips in our uniforms.

One of these days I got a few questions on the M16 and M9.

904 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:06:14am

re: #899 JustMyView

You realize Stevens was prosecuted by a Republican DOJ, right?

And did you know that John McCain is a Republican?

905 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:07:00am

re: #903 Nevergiveup

One of these days I got a few questions on the M16 and M9.

Okay's...:)

906 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:07:12am

re: #846 Dustyvet
Ah, my bad Dusty - I thought that was all original from you. Still and all, just wonderful stuff. Very nice and I thank you for it.
But my comment on "trust" still stands.

907 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:07:14am

This was Reuters a headline a few days ago...
North Korea missile consistent with satellite: U.S.
Tue Mar 31


A missile North Korea could launch as soon as this weekend appears to have a bulb-shaped tip that gives credence to Pyongyang's claim it plans to put a satellite in space, U.S. defense officials said on Tuesday.

Yet this video of the actual missile launch shows a missile without a bulb shaped tip.

908 ciaospirit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:07:26am

re: #902 avanti

I'm not so cynical as to think it's all a PR move, although I'm sure we'll hear that.

Please.

909 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:07:30am

re: #902 avanti

I'm actually happy to see the troops actually seem excited by the visit. They may not have voted for him, but they seem to appreciate the gesture. I'm not so cynical as to think it's all a PR move, although I'm sure we'll hear that.

If it makes the Troop's day better then fine by me, but knowing his "history" on Iraq, it's all PR. But what the hell.

910 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:07:47am

re: #885 avanti

US intelligence thought there was a satellite. It was just one of those basketball sized, little more then a beeper jobs. It makes no difference if that was used as a cover. If you can orbit a satellite, you have a ICBM. Had it have reached orbit, they could claim a peaceful purpose for what was in reality, a ICBM test.

And if it could broadcast entire songs it could do a bit more than Sputnik, which caused a lot of fright in the US.

911 aussiemagpie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:08:18am

Bedtime, so goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!

Tonight's view of OZ...

Mollymook, a delightful beachside town just a few hours south of Sydney

912 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:08:22am

re: #904 ciaospirit

And did you know that John McCain is a Republican?

//Can you prove that?

913 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:08:37am

re: #905 Dustyvet

Okay's...:)

I hadn't shot a weapon since I was 9 about 45 years ago. I qualified on those the other day. I thought I did OK considering, but I'd like to get better.

914 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:08:40am

re: #847 subsailor68 Thanks subsailor! I remembered it because I too had thought the percentage of troops, especially in the Combat Arms, would have been higher for Black troops.

915 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:08:56am

re: #887 Kenneth

There is no evidence that there was ever a satellite on the missile. Only the unsubstantiated claim by the NoKo gov't. The missile was going in the wrong direction to launch a satellite.

There is no "wrong direction" unless you are going for a geosynchronous orbit, which they were not. There are photos of a satellite in a nose cone, but that could be faked too.

916 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:09:22am

re: #893 jwb7605

The unthinkable situation.
Which of us would take up against our sons?
Which of us have sons that would obey the order?

... which side would be "fighting for our country"?

Since a lot of our Military consists of National Guard/Reserves now, would the Governors be able to intervene? What happens when 'state militia' is used to coerce states-do they obey orders? These and numerous other questions/worries spring to mind when contemplating such a scenario, and I personally hope it NEVER becomes anything more than speculation, or bad dreams...

917 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:09:32am

re: #906 realwest

Ah, my bad Dusty - I thought that was all original from you. Still and all, just wonderful stuff. Very nice and I thank you for it.
But my comment on "trust" still stands.

I agree, but that was part of my healing process. How you and mom doing? Tiger sends you many purrs.

918 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:09:47am

re: #902 avanti

I'm not so cynical as to think it's all a PR move, although I'm sure we'll hear that.

Well it IS part of his job. He IS the fucking Commander In Chief. It IS his responsibility to do more than apologize for our troops overseas. It's about DAMN time that he at least acknowledged them with a brief visit/campaign stop.

919 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:10:05am

re: #915 avanti

A communications satellite is useless if it is not in geostationary orbit.

920 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:12:46am

Hola! I finally found a blazing connection in Afghanistan!

921 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:13:26am

re: #889 Dianna Well one post every 60 days isn't much to ask; but then again, I'll wager they don't do the downding game, either!

922 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:13:41am

re: #907 Kenneth

This was Reuters a headline a few days ago...
North Korea missile consistent with satellite: U.S.
Tue Mar 31

Yet this video of the actual missile launch shows a missile without a bulb shaped tip.

A reservoir tip? Was it lubricated, too?

923 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:14:49am

re: #898 jwb7605
LOL! And those good ole days seem to be even finer the older I get!

924 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:15:45am

re: #897 Kenneth

Do you have a link to a US intelligence assessment of that missile launch?


U.S. intelligence analysts continue to believe that North Korea aims to launch a communications satellite rather than conducting a missile test, which would violate a U.N. resolution. However, the rocket launch would yield data directly applicable to its long-range ballistic missile program.

link

925 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:16:00am

re: #920 haakondahl

Hi Haak!

926 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:16:21am

WW!

927 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:17:14am

re: #925 wrenchwench

Hi Haak!

Good to see you. Usually from here, I'm trying to hit the site from my cellphone, which sometimes works, but in Opera Mobile I can't get to the LOGIN button. RRR.

928 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:17:19am

re: #917 Dustyvet
Mom and I are doing ok, thanks for asking! And give Tiger a few head bumps for me, would ya?!

929 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:17:31am

"North Korean dictator Kim Jung Il may be stepping down. Yeah, experts in the State Department say he could be replaced by his son, Menta Li Ill." --David Letterman

930 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:17:56am

re: #907 Kenneth

This was Reuters a headline a few days ago...
North Korea missile consistent with satellite: U.S.
Tue Mar 31

Yet this video of the actual missile launch shows a missile without a bulb shaped tip.

And the photo of the tiny, beeper satellite shows lots of room in the standard nose cone, no bulb needed.

931 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:18:03am

re: #927 haakondahl

Having fun in A-stan?

932 realwest  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:18:19am

Ah - headed over to the new thread!

933 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:21:16am

re: #924 avanti

That was a link to the LA Times, not to an official intelligence assessment. I am less than convinced there was a satellite on that missile. All we have to go on is the claim by the NoKo gov't. I'm not buying it.

934 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:21:44am

re: #919 Kenneth

A communications satellite is useless if it is not in geostationary orbit.

How many times do I have to say, it's only one way communications, not a geosynchronous "real" communications satellite and what difference does it make ? If it could orbit a satellite, it could send a warhead, it's just political cover.

935 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:21:49am

re: #882 realwest

Uh, who is this unhappy little squirt 'tshup'? Is he one of those - registered only to give downdings, not to exhange ideas in any way?
Methinks Charles ought to institute the idea he floated a week or so ago - if you don't post at least once every two months, you're account is cancelled.

I floated an idea maybe a year ago, that Charles in his SQL wisdom could implement some sort of "Karma" system, but subject to pruning as needed.

To avoid a runaway clique (here at LGF?! Shock!), he could from time to time "bless" or "curse" certain people or certain posts, with knock-on effects propagating to those who up/down ding, those posts/people.

That way, cliques which have made themselves powerful but annoying could rapidly have their influence diluted.

936 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:22:23am
937 avanti  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:22:26am

re: #933 Kenneth

That was a link to the LA Times, not to an official intelligence assessment. I am less than convinced there was a satellite on that missile. All we have to go on is the claim by the NoKo gov't. I'm not buying it.

Fine, makes no difference either way.

938 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:24:26am

re: #930 avanti

And the photo of the tiny, beeper satellite shows lots of room in the standard nose cone, no bulb needed.

BUT the Reuters report claims there was a bulb when the video of the launch clearly shows there was not. That's a contradiction. Therefore, whoever Reuters unnamed "intelligence source" was, he was wrong or lying.

I smell a cooked up story and I'm not buying it.

939 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:25:46am

re: #934 avanti

How many times do I have to say it: there is no evidence a satellite was ever on that missile.

940 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:26:35am
941 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:29:18am

re: #931 wrenchwench

Having fun in A-stan?

It could be worse. I really have some things to talk about, but now is not the time for what is foremost on my mind.

I really like the people here, and I am in with a good group, who mostly see the real mission, that being to make things better for the people here, so that it doesn't become a misery-breeding sh1thole, passport-laundering service for terrorists, and advertisement of American weakness and failure. To say nothing of the obvious benefit of just plain helping people.

I never went to Iraq, but I understand that many difficulties were posed by the fact that we come from a very different culture. Well here, the aching poverty and tribal affiliations make us seem from a different planet. I live in Japan, for cryin' out loud, and the US/Japan difference looks like talking to cousins from the next town over when you compare that relationship to this place.

I have made some very good friends, Americans and Afghans alike. Once I get registered, I'll start posting on my Afghanistan blog again, but it's difficult. I would like to introduce you all to some very good men of the Afghan National Army, but I don't want to go showing their faces, or mine, for that matter. I'm kind of stuck with philosophical points, technological complaints, and awesome sunrise pictures.

Meh.

942 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:31:24am

re: #919 Kenneth

A communications satellite is useless if it is not in geostationary orbit.

Actually, no; there have been many not in geosynchronous orbit. Telstar, for example. And the Russians use ones in "Molinya" orbits because geosynch orbits aren't good for polar areas.
Plus Iridium and other similar systems use a low and medium orbit constellation.
Again, though, this was a propaganda stunt with a satellite that broadcast songs about the glory of the Peoples' Republic of North Korea. The glories? Like the people may occasionally have grass to eat?

943 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:32:37am

re: #941 haakondahl

I'm kind of stuck with philosophical points, technological complaints, and awesome sunrise pictures.

Then it's a good thing that you write well!

944 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:38:51am
945 Pietr  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:44:15am

re: #944 Iron Fist

Have you ever read Debt of Honor by Clancy? The Japanese cover up their ICBM test as a failed sattilite launch.

Clancy is a bit scarey in some of his assesments-because he still seems to be pointing out things that are happening, tho often not from the exact slant/area that he predicted; a very good author, but scarey...

946 justabill  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 9:56:51am

re: #945 Pietr

Has anyone found out where the thing actually landed. I heard the first stage dropped in the Sea of Japan and the second in the Pacific. The Pacific is a big ocean. If the payload landed just off Japans other coast, no big deal. If it landed just off California or Alaska, that would be a different story. No one seems to be saying how far out it went...

947 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:03:00am

re: #946 justabill

Has anyone found out where the thing actually landed. I heard the first stage dropped in the Sea of Japan and the second in the Pacific. The Pacific is a big ocean. If the payload landed just off Japans other coast, no big deal. If it landed just off California or Alaska, that would be a different story. No one seems to be saying how far out it went...

All I have is this:

Stage one of the missile fell into the Sea of Japan/East Sea. The remaining stages along with the payload itself landed in the Pacific Ocean.

No object entered orbit and no debris fell on Japan.


From here

948 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:04:05am

re: #946 justabill

Has anyone found out where the thing actually landed. I heard the first stage dropped in the Sea of Japan and the second in the Pacific. The Pacific is a big ocean. If the payload landed just off Japans other coast, no big deal. If it landed just off California or Alaska, that would be a different story. No one seems to be saying how far out it went...

Thanks--my wife and son are in Tokyo. And listen--Japan is what is threatened here--they can't hit the States; they won't hit South Korea. If anybody gets hit, it's Japan. And we have a lot of active duty military in Japan.

NK calls our bluff by threatening Japan. What do we do?

949 JustABill  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 10:45:25am

re: #948 haakondahl

My understanding is that they have been able to hit Japan for some time. We also have US Military on the NK/SK border where they could be hit by an idiot with a rifle.

When they can hit the US (Alaska, Hawaii or the mainland) the psychology of the situation changes.

950 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:21:01am

re: #949 JustABill

My understanding is that they have been able to hit Japan for some time. We also have US Military on the NK/SK border where they could be hit by an idiot with a rifle.

When they can hit the US (Alaska, Hawaii or the mainland) the psychology of the situation changes.

I disagree. By hitting the US, they put is in an easy situation--we wipe them out. By hitting Japan, they put us in a difficult situation, and without balls of steel, we will lose influence across the world.

951 mamacares  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 7:53:23am

Boycott Sephora. I believe it is French owned. Find your manicure pencil online from friendlier retailer.

952 JacksonTn  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 7:54:32am

re: #951 mamacares

Boycott Sephora. I believe it is French owned. Find your manicure pencil online from friendlier retailer.

Why ya wanna go and spoil my day! ... I will check into that ... most of my stuff can be bought elsewhere ... sigh ...


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