Iranian Nuclear Smuggling Plot Uncovered in Manhattan

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The Manhattan district attorney’s office has announced that they’ve discovered a plot to smuggle nuclear weapons materials to Iran, with the unwitting help of New York banks.

The indictment will outline the financial conspiracy behind 58 different transactions, including shipments of various banned materials from China to Iran between 2006 and late 2008.
Among them:

* 33,000 pounds of a specialized aluminum alloy used almost exclusively in long-range missile production.

* 66,000 pounds of tungsten copper plate, which is used in missile guidance systems.

* 53,900 pounds of maraging steel rods, a superhard metal used in uranium enrichment and to make the casings for nuclear bombs.

The recipient is believed to have been a subsidiary of the Iranian Defense Ministry. The suspect, who is not believed to be in the U.S., set up four bogus import-export companies that did business with six Iranian shell firms, one source said.

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246 comments

1 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:02:01pm

Later: The State Dept is busy.

Haaretz- State Department blasts Israel over demolition of East Jerusalem terrorist`s home

2 redshirt  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:02:09pm

It’s all our fault, somehow…
If only we would lead the way.
/sarc

3 Ojoe  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:02:24pm

This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius, Oooooo.

4 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:02:25pm

Turn Obama’s plane around. We need some platitudes, STAT!

5 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:02:44pm

Definately not the right Manhattan Project.

6 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:03:21pm

If we would only give Iran this technology, then they wouldn’t have to go through all these illegal back channels.
/ (though probably will be the NYT op-ed tomorrow)

7 noshariaincanada  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:03:23pm

Lovely … I think I’m gonna move to rural Mexico in anticipation of the EMP attack.

8 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:03:43pm

Someone clue in the President, please.

9 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:03:47pm

But we have nuclear weapons, so if we don’t allow Iran to have them too then we’re hypoctites.


/….moonbat.

10 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:04:08pm

re: #7 noshariaincanada

Lovely … I think I’m gonna move to rural Mexico in anticipation of the EMP attack.

Or, you could just move here to Texas, and let rural mexico move to you.

11 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:04:12pm

Good thing we’re allocating lots a money toward missile defense.

12 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:04:52pm

Must be a mistake…..

IAEA: No N-weaponization found in Iran

The IAEA has not detected the use of nuclear material linked to Iran’s “alleged studies” of weaponization, the agency’s latest report says.

See, it’s all just a mistake!

////

13 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:04:57pm
“This case will cut off a major source of supply to Iran and it shows how they are going ahead full steam to get a nuclear bomb. Long-range missiles they pretty much have already,” a law enforcement source close to the case said.

A clear violation that will not make ripples with any global organization whose mission it is to stop this madness, like the IAEA or the UN. What frightens me is that this won’t make ripples in Washington either.

14 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:05:18pm

Don’t worry, the materials from China were too spiked with Melamine to be of any use.
/extreme

15 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:05:20pm

re: #3 Ojoe

This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius, Oooooo.

Leeeeeeeetttt the sunshine in, leeeeeeeeettt the sunshine in…

16 ORD neighbor  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:05:26pm

The PRC-Iran connection here bears thinking about more than usual.

17 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:05:32pm

Where does el-Baradoodeeboobie work out of?
Was this metaphorically right under his nose?

18 snakedoctor  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:05:33pm

What does the teleprompter have to say?

19 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:05:36pm

I guess they took the term “Manhattan Project” a bit too literally.

20 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:05:43pm

re: #14 turn

Don’t worry, the materials from China were too spiked with Melamine to be of any use.
/extreme

Not to mention the lead paint.

/fail

21 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:05:57pm
NY banks unwittingly

Did we really need more proof that NY bankers are witless?

22 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:06:17pm

re: #19 Occasional Reader

I guess they took the term “Manhattan Project” a bit too literally.

Ahmadinejad singing, “I’ll Take Manhattan”?

23 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:06:51pm

re: #21 Opinionated

Did we really need more proof that NY bankers are witless?

White man’s greed runs a world in need.

/

24 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:07:22pm

The next four years should be a real hoot.

25 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:07:36pm

re: #17 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Where does el-Baradoodeeboobie work out of?
Was this metaphorically right under his nose?

What was his cut?

26 noshariaincanada  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:07:56pm

re: #10 Guanxi88

Or, you could just move here to Texas, and let rural mexico move to you.

rotf !

27 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:08:05pm

re: #12 jcm

Must be a mistake…..

IAEA: No N-weaponization found in Iran

See, it’s all just a mistake!

////

Data entry error. Someone in the DA’s office typed in “Iran” instead of “United Kingdom”. It’s all legit. Move along. Move along.

/

28 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:08:09pm

re: #24 Ringo the Gringo

The next four years should be a real hoot.

At least until the first mushroom cloud goes up.

29 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:08:19pm

re: #12 jcm

Must be a mistake…..

IAEA: No N-weaponization found in Iran

See, it’s all just a mistake!

////

What would they know? They can’t even put all the parts you need into a funny-looking end table.
/wait, that’s IKEA.

30 Shug  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:08:21pm
Between 2006 and late 2008

Now there is no need for them to sneak around. They can sell their nuke supplies in the open. We won’t do anything about it and they know it

31 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:08:38pm

re: #26 noshariaincanada

rotf !

You say that now, but you wouldn’t be laughing once you moved down here.

32 DaddyG  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:08:50pm

Nothing to see here. Just throw that TARP back over it and move on. //

33 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:09:09pm

The ‘stockpile gold/silver bullion, nonperishable foods and ammo and move up to Montana’ part of my brain is acting up again for some reason.

/Thought I could avoid this at least on opening day….

34 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:09:33pm

Obama will show the way!

Everyone will follow our lead to the promised land of disarmament!

35 Kragar  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:10:07pm

UNCLENCH DAMMMIT!

36 Rancher  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:10:10pm

Why are any U.S. or European companies doing business with Iranian companies, shell or otherwise?

37 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:10:12pm

back to work.

38 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:10:15pm

re: #25 Ward Cleaver

What was his cut?

I’m sure he got a line on something of interest.

/*innocent look* … *whistling*

39 jwb7605  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:10:42pm

Charles felt picked on this morning.
Now, even Iowahawk joins in with the bashing!

For too long the bellicose agressors of international blog “A list” gangstery — Instanpundit, Blair, NRO, LGF, Ace of Spades, Hewitt, Malkin, Taranto, Allah, and their running-blog puppet lackeys

A must read for us lackeys, of course!

40 DaddyG  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:10:46pm

Its part of the new UN crude for WMD program. /

41 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:10:46pm

Don’t worry, President Obama has a plan: We will lead by example and disarm our own nuclear arsenal. Our enemies will be so impressed that they will do the same.

Just watch, it’ll work…really, it will.

/….oy

42 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:10:48pm

re: #36 Rancher


Is Shell doing business with shell companies?

43 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:10:48pm

re: #34 jcm

Obama will show the way!

Everyone will follow our lead to the promised land of disarmament!

Sounds like a labor camp.

44 Pupdawg  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:10:56pm

What nuclear weapon’s program? Iran has none.

45 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:11:22pm

re: #43 Leonidas Hoplite

Sounds like a labor camp.

Is that you, Glen?

46 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:11:26pm

Armed dinnerjacket always looks like he smells really, really bad.

47 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:11:30pm

Interesting that Iran is ramping up its nuclear program just as our President has announced that we will set the example by dismantling ours…….

49 flakmusic  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:11:52pm

re: #44 Pupdawg

What nuclear weapon’s program? Iran has none.

Exactly…no one should be leaping to any conclusions here…

50 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:12:16pm

Isnt Iran (in theory) supposed to be having elections this year?

51 Racer X  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:12:31pm

Sarah Palin should have known about this too.

52 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:12:34pm

re: #26 noshariaincanada

rotf !

Lately, I’ve seen two cars with Jalisco plates. And Jalisco isn’t a border state.

53 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:13:01pm

re: #39 jwb7605

Charles felt picked on this morning.
Now, even Iowahawk joins in with the bashing!

A must read for us lackeys, of course!

“puppet lackeys” … LOL
Can I register a sock!

54 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:13:05pm

re: #47 LGoPs

Interesting that Iran is ramping up its nuclear program just as our President has announced that we will set the example by dismantling ours…….

Why not save ourselves the expense of dismantling them and just sell them to the Iranian? We could fund the deficit and usher in a new utopia!

55 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:13:27pm

Maraging steels, perfect choice to make a bomb out of …
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

56 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:13:32pm

re: #52 Ward Cleaver

Lately, I’ve seen two cars with Jalisco plates. And Jalisco isn’t a border state.

Yep, been seeing more than my share, here in Central Texas. WTF are they doing this far in?
(Course, I ask the same question when I see Canuck plates.)

57 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:13:47pm

re: #52 Ward Cleaver

Lately, I’ve seen two cars with Jalisco plates. And Jalisco isn’t a border state.

I remember seeing a car with Sonora liscence plates when I was a wee lad.

On Interstate 91 in Massachusetts.

58 brookly red  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:13:59pm

re: #41 Ringo the Gringo

Don’t worry, President Obama has a plan: We will lead by example and disarm our own nuclear arsenal. Our enemies will be so impressed that they will do the same.

Just watch, it’ll work…really, it will.

/….oy

I beleive the phrase is “crazy fuckhead is gonna get us all killed” or something close.

59 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:14:07pm

re: #50 Fenway_Nation

Isnt Iran (in theory) supposed to be having elections this year?

Let’s really fuck them up and send ACORN over to help them……
/

60 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:14:07pm

re: #55 turn

But 54,000 lbs? wtf

61 tazzerman  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:14:12pm

It’s the end of the world as we know it (it’s time I had some time alone)
It’s the end of the world as we know it (it’s time I had some time alone)
It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (it’s time I had some
time alone)

I feel fine

62 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:14:47pm

850 messages to go and we hit #7 million!

63 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:15:03pm

re: #61 tazzerman

beck is that u?

64 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:15:30pm

re: #61 tazzerman

It’s the end of the world as we know it (it’s time I had some time alone)
It’s the end of the world as we know it (it’s time I had some time alone)
It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (it’s time I had some
time alone)

I feel fine

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang, but with a WTF?

65 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:15:36pm

re: #62 gmsc

And future generations will ask Where were you when the comments on LGF hit 7,000,000?

66 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:15:49pm

I am sure that when Obama destroys our nuclear arsenal all will be well.
The Iranians, Syrians & N Koreans etal will just give up their nuclear programs.
The lion will lay down with the lamb. Of course the lamb will get it’s dumb ass eaten by the lion.

67 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:15:51pm

re: #57 Fenway_Nation

I remember seeing a car with Sonora liscence plates when I was a wee lad.

On Interstate 91 in Massachusetts.

Wow. Here we just usually see plates from Nuevo Leon or Tamaulipas. I saw a Honda Ridgeline with NL plates yesterday.

68 daledog  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:15:53pm

…the unwitting help of New York banks…

The same banks that are now partially owned by the gubmint?

69 looking closely  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:16:00pm

Aren’t they simply going to “unclench”?

70 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:16:14pm

re: #55 turn

Maraging steels, perfect choice to make a bomb out of …
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Why didn’t they just marage to steel the manufacturing technology?

71 BingoBunny  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:16:14pm

Metal metal metal.. who does Obama know who sells metal.. maybe Bill or Hillary knows someone to call about this?

/check the Justice Department

72 rightwinger  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:16:27pm

I hope we have headed off a man caused disaster!

73 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:16:29pm

re: #69 looking closely

Aren’t they simply going to “unclench”?

Obama needs to grovel some more.

74 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:16:55pm

re: #65 Fenway_Nation

And future generations will ask Where were you when the comments on LGF hit 7,000,000?

Daddy, what did you do before LGF reached 7 million?

75 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:17:11pm

Rule number 1: Always follow the money.

That’s what the DA did, and it blows up the NIE claim that the Iranians stopped working on the nuclear program.

76 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:17:32pm

re: #62 gmsc

850 messages to go and we hit #7 million!

Countdown thread?

77 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:17:35pm

re: #74 Guanxi88

Daddy, what did you do before LGF reached 7 million?

We had to program on the walls of caves! in BASIC!

78 Irenike  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:17:38pm

My prediction: President Teleprompter isn’t going to say a word about this. He’s got other, more important things to worry about, like firing executives at GM.

Also, I truly believe he does not give a damn whether the mullahs in Tehran have their own nuke.

79 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:18:02pm

You can bet a year’s worth of mortgage payments that the IRGC/Pasdaran was involved in this.

80 Shug  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:18:15pm

Something was lost in the American to Austrian translation

81 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:18:54pm

re: #79 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You can bet a year’s worth of mortgage payments

Sucker bet! We don’t have to make those any more, in the Era of Hopenchange.

82 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:19:21pm

re: #72 rightwinger

I hope we have headed off a man caused disaster!

Actually that’s a sexist term and I’m appalled that our government would use it.
I would suggest Multi Cellular Organism with Opposable Thumbs Caused Disaster would be more culturally sensitive.
/

83 Pupdawg  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:19:27pm

If Iran had a Manhattan Project, it would be a misnomer of sorts since Manhattan is merely No. 2 on their purported target’s list.

Total irony here as Manhattaners become a supplier of the material which might be used for their nuclear death sentence…sounds a lot like the old USSR policy on Capital Punishment which made the condemned or his or her family pay for the bullet that carried out their execution.

84 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:20:06pm

re: #81 Occasional Reader

Sucker bet! We don’t have to make those any more, in the Era of Hopenchange.

WE DON’T?
Aw shit! That’s rent all my financial plans!

85 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:20:11pm

Hey, as long as the words “Iran”, “Manhattan” and “Project” are going to be on everybody’s minds anyway …

86 Tazzerman  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:20:14pm

As Hot Air notes, this undermines the NIE that claimed that Iran was no longer working on its nuclear program. It also undermines the credibility of the intelligence community that doesn’t seem to have a firm grasp of Iran’s intentions.

Truer words have not been spoken. WTF IS our so called ‘intelligence’ community doing anyway?

87 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:20:17pm

re: #83 Pupdawg

I think the ChiComs still do that.

88 Rancher  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:20:18pm

re: #78 Irenike

My prediction: President Teleprompter isn’t going to say a word about this. He’s got other, more important things to worry about, like firing executives at GM.

Also, I truly believe he does not give a damn whether the mullahs in Tehran have their own nuke.


It’s only fair. Spread the nuclear wealth so to speak.

89 brookly red  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:20:28pm

re: #66 opnion

I am sure that when Obama destroys our nuclear arsenal all will be well.
The Iranians, Syrians & N Koreans etal will just give up their nuclear programs.
The lion will lay down with the lamb. Of course the lamb will get it’s dumb ass eaten by the lion.

I think that the way he is going he won’t destroy it he will redistribute it “it’s better that way”…

90 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:20:41pm

re: #68 daledog

…the unwitting help of New York banks…

The same banks that are now partially owned by the gubmint?

I prefer witless……..
/

91 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:20:46pm

re: #78 Irenike

My prediction: President Teleprompter isn’t going to say a word about this. He’s got other, more important things to worry about, like firing executives at GM.

Also, I truly believe he does not give a damn whether the mullahs in Tehran have their own nuke.

Of course he does. Without things like this and Kim Mentally Il how can he keep repeating “,,,, due to the failed policies of the last 8 years “

92 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:20:56pm

re: #70 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Why didn’t they just marage to steel the manufacturing technology?

They tried but they Kahn’t

93 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:21:12pm

re: #87 Fenway_Nation

I think the ChiComs still do that.

Yes, have you priced ammo for those Nagant revolvers they use? Not cheap, my friend, and you gotta figure they go through at least a couple cases a day.

94 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:21:28pm

re: #12 jcm

Must be a mistake…..

IAEA: No N-weaponization found in Iran

See, it’s all just a mistake!

////

Back several years ago, it seemed they found traces of polonium, which is only needed for nuclear weapons, not power. I guess they forgot about that.

95 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:21:51pm

re: #89 brookly red

I think that the way he is going he won’t destroy it he will redistribute it “it’s better that way”…

More fair!

96 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:21:57pm

re: #86 Tazzerman

As Hot Air notes, this undermines the NIE that claimed that Iran was no longer working on its nuclear program. It also undermines the credibility of the intelligence community that doesn’t seem to have a firm grasp of Iran’s intentions.

Truer words have not been spoken. WTF IS our so called ‘intelligence’ community doing anyway?

Waiting for their checks from Iran or Saudi Arabia.

97 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:22:26pm

re: #91 sattv4u2

Of course he does. Without things like this and Kim Mentally Il how can he keep repeating “,,,, due to the failed policies of the last 8 years “

This from a guy who wants to try all new failed policies.

“The politics of failure have failed. We must make them work again!”
-Kodos

98 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:22:26pm

re: #92 turn

They tried but they Kahn’t

So they forged some documents to get these shell companies set up?

99 brookly red  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:22:44pm

re: #83 Pupdawg

If Iran had a Manhattan Project, it would be a misnomer of sorts since Manhattan is merely No. 2 on their purported target’s list.

Total irony here as Manhattaners become a supplier of the material which might be used for their nuclear death sentence…sounds a lot like the old USSR policy on Capital Punishment which made the condemned or his or her family pay for the bullet that carried out their execution.

… “they will sell us the rope we hang them with”

100 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:23:09pm

re: #97 gmsc

This from a guy who wants to try all new failed policies.

“The politics of failure have failed. We must make them work again!”
-Kodos

Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos!

101 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:23:18pm

re: #86 Tazzerman

As Hot Air notes, this undermines the NIE that claimed that Iran was no longer working on its nuclear program. It also undermines the credibility of the intelligence community that doesn’t seem to have a firm grasp of Iran’s intentions.

Truer words have not been spoken. WTF IS our so called ‘intelligence’ community doing anyway?

They’re all in the Witless Protection Program…….
/

102 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:23:24pm

re: #96 Kosh’s Shadow

Waiting for their checks from Iran or Saudi Arabia.

The fact is the other Arab Gulf States are not one bit happy that Iran is going Nuclear and are probably sitting there asking: ” What the fuck are the Israelis waiting for”?

103 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:23:45pm

re: #91 sattv4u2

Of course he does. Without things like this and Kim Mentally Il how can he keep repeating “,,,, due to the failed policies of the last 8 years “


Of course, if he keeps beating the ‘Failed Policies of the last 8 years’ much longer, he’ll basically be fessing up that he screwed the pooch for the entire duration of his administration…

104 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:23:53pm

re: #92 turn

They tried but they Kahn’t

I bet you O’Reilly will be fuming over this tonight, or maybe tomorrow.

105 Kragar  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:24:02pm

re: #72 rightwinger

I hope we have headed off a man caused disaster!

Nope, he is still President for now

106 Jack Burton  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:24:06pm

Mr. President,

Can we now return to treating Iran as an enemy again?

107 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:24:06pm

re: #94 Kosh’s Shadow

Back several years ago, it seemed they found traces of polonium, which is only needed for nuclear weapons, not power. I guess they forgot about that.

Everryone knows plononium can also be used in the Iranian delicacy khoresht (stew that is served with white Basmati or Iranian rice: ghormeh sabzi, gheimeh, and others),

108 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:24:09pm

This calls for some Tom Lehrer

109 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:24:25pm

Why tear your hair out? Just do what TOTUS is doing.

US may cede to Iran’s nuclear ambition

US officials are considering whether to accept Iran’s pursuit of uranium enrichment, which has been outlawed by the United Nations and remains at the heart of fears that Iran is seeking nuclear weapons capability.

As part of a policy review commissioned by President Barack Obama, diplomats are discussing whether the US will eventually have to accept Iran’s insistence on carrying out the process, which can produce both nuclear fuel and weapons- grade material.

/relax and enjoy it, it’ll be easier that way

110 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:24:25pm

re: #103 Fenway_Nation

Of course, if he keeps beating the ‘Failed Policies of the last 8 years’ much longer, he’ll basically be fessing up that he screwed the pooch for the entire duration of his administration…

sshhhhhhhh !

111 Tazzerman  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:25:02pm

I’m wondering if the Clintons have ANY connection to this whole thing? Wittingly or not..?

112 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:25:05pm

re: #109 Killian Bundy

Why tear your hair out? Just do what TOTUS is doing.

US may cede to Iran’s nuclear ambition

/relax and enjoy it, it’ll be easier that way

Who once said that about women and rape? It was someone Famous?

113 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:25:18pm

re: #102 Nevergiveup

The fact is the other Arab Gulf States are not one bit happy that Iran is going Nuclear and are probably sitting there asking: ” What the fuck are the Israelis waiting for”?

Ol’merde was waiting for Bush’s permission.
I don’t think Netanyahu will wait.

114 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:25:33pm

re: #103 Fenway_Nation

Of course, if he keeps beating the ‘Failed Policies of the last 8 years’ much longer, he’ll basically be fessing up that he screwed the pooch for the entire duration of his administration…

What’s going on in the Red Sox Opener?

115 Dianna  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:25:38pm

re: #83 Pupdawg

If Iran had a Manhattan Project, it would be a misnomer of sorts since Manhattan is merely No. 2 on their purported target’s list.

Total irony here as Manhattaners become a supplier of the material which might be used for their nuclear death sentence…sounds a lot like the old USSR policy on Capital Punishment which made the condemned or his or her family pay for the bullet that carried out their execution.

That was the Chinese. The Russians just didn’t tell the family. The family used to find out by going around to each of the prisons and seeing where the parcel was accepted.

If it wasn’t accepted at any of them, your loved one was dead.

Frankly? As awful as it is, I’d rather get the charge for the bullet. At least I’d know for sure, and fairly soon.

116 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:25:50pm

re: #106 ArchangelMichael

Mr. President,

Can we now return to treating Iran as an enemy again?

Sorry, we can’t do that during Democrat administrations (Carter, Billary, The One)

You;ll have to wait your turn again!

117 brookly red  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:26:14pm

re: #102 Nevergiveup

rumor has it the saudis will allow the use of their air space…

118 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:26:25pm

re: #113 Kosh’s Shadow

Ol’merde was waiting for Bush’s permission.
I don’t think Netanyahu will wait.

Yeah, well you have more confidence in Bibet than I do. I am praying Ariel wakes up!

119 Tazzerman  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:27:02pm

re: #117 brookly red

rumor has it the saudis will allow the use of their air space…

Of course and if Israel DOES attack and uses Saudi airspace, the Saudis will be the FIRST to condemn her for it.

120 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:27:03pm

re: #107 sattv4u2

Everryone knows plononium can also be used in the Iranian delicacy khoresht (stew that is served with white Basmati or Iranian rice: ghormeh sabzi, gheimeh, and others),

This is the recipe used by the KGB, right?
Polonium is radioactive, but reasonably safe, unless ingested. It emits alpha particles which do not penetrate skin.

121 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:27:03pm
Look at his record: One of the few foreign-policy initiatives to which Obama stuck his name during his brief Senate term was an increase in funding for nuclear nonproliferation. One of the few senatorial trips he managed was a nuclear inspection tour of Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan.


May have been wrong, but it’s more than I thought he had done.
No Nukes? No Thanks.Obama’s odd obsession with universal nuclear disarmament.

122 Soona'  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:27:05pm

re: #86 Tazzerman

As Hot Air notes, this undermines the NIE that claimed that Iran was no longer working on its nuclear program. It also undermines the credibility of the intelligence community that doesn’t seem to have a firm grasp of Iran’s intentions.

Truer words have not been spoken. WTF IS our so called ‘intelligence’ community doing anyway?

Wiping the zero’s shit off the end of their noses.

123 Emperor Norton  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:27:32pm

Why didn’t some Pulitzer prize-winning reporter at The New York Times break this story, instead of the low-rent New York Daily News? My guess is that the Times heard about the story first, but passed on it.

124 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:27:37pm

re: #114 Nevergiveup

What’s going on in the Red Sox Opener?

Sox up 1-0 top of the 2nd

125 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:27:46pm

re: #114 Nevergiveup

What’s going on in the Red Sox Opener?

Beckett vs Shields- Pedroia hit a solo homer in the bottom of the 1st.

126 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:27:46pm

re: #109 Killian Bundy

Why tear your hair out? Just do what TOTUS is doing.

US may cede to Iran’s nuclear ambition

/relax and enjoy it, it’ll be easier that way

Relax, put your head between your legs, and kiss your ass goodbye.

127 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:28:05pm
128 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:28:07pm

re: #119 Tazzerman

Of course and if Israel DOES attack and uses Saudi airspace, the Saudis will be the FIRST to condemn her for it.

Yeah but it will be just lip service—but somebody better let Obama in on the ruse?

129 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:28:11pm

re: #106 ArchangelMichael

Mr. President,

Can we now return to treating Iran as an enemy again?

No no no! He said that even when we disagree , we will treat Mulims with respect.
Now treating them as enemies would just not be respectful.
We are so screwed.

130 republic  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:28:13pm

It was just a day or so, ago, that I read several different articles that had Obama more than likely accepting Iran’s nuclear program.

It wasn’t just Obama, but also the “International Community”.

Sheesh!

131 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:28:25pm

re: #124 sattv4u2

Thanks for providing that pivotal detail that I somehow overlooked.

132 Diamond Bullet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:28:41pm

If there’s anything that says “peaceful civilian nuclear program,” it’s smuggling nuclear materials through Chinese front companies.

I’m also pleased that apparently the Manhattan DA’s office has more investigative skills than the FBI and CIA. What’s next, a Hezbollah sleeper cell broken up by Brownie Troop #259?

133 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:28:48pm

re: #125 Fenway_Nation

Beckett vs Shields- Pedroia hit a solo homer in the bottom of the 1st.

Pedroia looks more and more like a keeper.

134 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:28:59pm

re: #119 Tazzerman

Of course and if Israel DOES attack and uses Saudi airspace, the Saudis will be the FIRST to condemn her for it.

If … if … and if … yes, I’d expect the Saudis to do exactly that, while secretly sending a message of gratitude to the IDF.

135 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:29:09pm

re: #123 Emperor Norton

Why didn’t some Pulitzer prize-winning reporter at The New York Times break this story, instead of the low-rent New York Daily News? My guess is that the Times heard about the story first, but passed on it.

They got it 2 minutes ago.
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

136 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:29:11pm

Well,

Here is the real question… When will Israel no longer have a choice and desperately try to do something. The US sure as shit won’t do anything, and the problem goes deeper than Obama. Bush was did nothing as well.

137 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:29:39pm

re: #117 brookly red

rumor has it the saudis will allow the use of their air space…

Really, where did you hear that? That would actually be better than flying over Iraq I think.

138 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:29:49pm
Authorities first stumbled over the scheme seven months ago in an unrelated probe into Iranian money-laundering through Lloyd’s, a British bank.

In January, Lloyd’s paid a $350 million fine to settle accusations it “stripped” information from Iranian money transfers to New York banks, hiding where the cash came from.

Officials said they suspected that money was also used to finance Iran’s nuke program.

“The important thing is to put sunlight on these deals,” the law enforcement source said.


wow. I hadn’t heard of that one.

139 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:29:58pm

re: #118 Nevergiveup

Yeah, well you have more confidence in Bibet than I do. I am praying Ariel wakes up!

And what? He withdrew from Gaza. He was in a coma before he was in a coma.
Or maybe it was a plan to say “Look at this, we can’t withdraw or the area turns into a terrorist state”.

140 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:30:06pm

And remember, TOTUS just whacked a huge chunk out of the missile defense budget, including killing the Airborne Laser and Kinetic Kill Vehicles.

/but don’t worry, ACORN will defend us against Iranian warheads and North Korean missiles, they got a big budget increase

141 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:30:08pm

re: #109 Killian Bundy

Why tear your hair out? Just do what TOTUS is doing.

US may cede to Iran’s nuclear ambition

/relax and enjoy it, it’ll be easier that way

“There’s a fundamental impasse between the western demand for no enrichment and the Iranian dem and to continue enrichment,” says Mark Fitzpat rick, a former state depart - ment expert now at the International Institute for Strategic Studies. “There’s no obvious compromise between those two positions.”

I can think of a half of dozen ways to break an impasse.

142 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:30:33pm

re: #134 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If … if … and if … yes, I’d expect the Saudis to do exactly that, while secretly sending a message of gratitude to the IDF.

Gratitude? Now lets not go overboard here?

143 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:30:38pm

re: #44 Pupdawg

What nuclear weapon’s program? Iran has none.

The centrifuges spin.
The AQK files on the hard drive.
The tunnels are dug.

Some assembly required.

144 Tazzerman  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:30:54pm

Israel just successfully tested their Arrow anti-missle defense system! WOO WOO.

145 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:30:56pm

I
Feel
Safe

/not

146 looking closely  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:31:12pm

I mean, its not like their motto is “Death to America” or anything…

147 brookly red  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:31:15pm

re: #137 turn

Really, where did you hear that? That would actually be better than flying over Iraq I think.

/hear what?

148 paradox42  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:31:20pm

re: #44 Pupdawg

What nuclear weapon’s program? Iran has none.

Pay no attention to the centrifuge behind the curtain.

149 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:31:28pm

In case anybody wants to know. Tome just hit a three run homer for the White Sox, who now lead the Royals 4 to 2!

150 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:31:47pm

re: #79 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You can bet a year’s worth of mortgage payments that the IRGC/Pasdaran was involved in this.

Obama’s paying your mortgage anyway….

151 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:31:51pm

re: #147 brookly red

oh, duh

152 Dianna  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:32:05pm

re: #132 Diamond Bullet

Probably.

Little girls are naturally curious, you know.

153 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:32:07pm

re: #149 opnion

In case anybody wants to know. Tome just hit a three run homer for the White Sox, who now lead the Royals 4 to 2!

Better start planning the parade ! !

154 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:32:07pm

I wish this info would have been released before the G20.

155 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:32:12pm

re: #136 LudwigVanQuixote

Well,

Here is the real question… When will Israel no longer have a choice and desperately try to do something. The US sure as shit won’t do anything, and the problem goes deeper than Obama. Bush was did nothing as well.

I think that if the Iraq War and the War on Terrorist scum had gone better President Bush might have, but by the middle of his second term, he was beat down pretty good.

156 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:32:17pm

re: #127 ConservatismNow!

Another quality pick by the obama white house

How bizarre.

The White House has hired actor Kal Penn as a liaison between President Barack Obama’s administration and Asian constituents.

“Asian constituents”? Gosh, I thought he was supposed to be the President of ALL Americans, without distinction.

The racial-ethnic balkanization of America proceeds apace.

157 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:32:25pm

re: #129 opnion

No no no! He said that even when we disagree , we will treat Mulims with respect.
Now treating them as enemies would just not be respectful.
We are so screwed.

I’ll treat them with respect when they treat me with respect. And that goes for individuals as well as the most vocal group.
However, anyone who says Israel must be destroyed, I’ll treat as an enemy.

158 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:32:31pm
The Manhattan district attorney’s office has announced that they’ve discovered a plot to smuggle nuclear weapons materials to Iran, with the unwitting help of New York banks.

How does this help Obama unclench any fists in Iran? I look for him to apologize to Ahmadinejad.

159 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:32:36pm

re: #154 KenJen

I wish this info would have been released before the G20 Novemerb elections.

160 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:32:37pm
161 republic  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:32:39pm

re: #143 jcm

The centrifuges spin.
The AQK files on the hard drive.
The tunnels are dug.

Some assembly required.

Also, what about the site in Syria, where the Israeli’s blasted to rubble, the confirmed nuclear reactor, that still is showing traces of uranium.

162 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:32:42pm

6,999,290

It’s almost here.

163 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:33:12pm

re: #119 Tazzerman

Of course and if Israel DOES attack and uses Saudi airspace, the Saudis will be the FIRST to condemn her for it.

/Israel won’t be needing anyone’s airspace

164 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:33:21pm

re: #109 Killian Bundy

Why tear your hair out? Just do what TOTUS is doing.

US may cede to Iran’s nuclear ambition

/relax and enjoy it, it’ll be easier that way

Let the Nork’s fire a missile.
Let the Mad Mullah’s have a bomb.
But they’ll learn to love us.

165 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:33:25pm

re: #153 sattv4u2

Better start planning the parade ! !

Hey, it could happen again.

166 Soona'  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:33:26pm

re: #132 Diamond Bullet

If there’s anything that says “peaceful civilian nuclear program,” it’s smuggling nuclear materials through Chinese front companies.

I’m also pleased that apparently the Manhattan DA’s office has more investigative skills than the FBI and CIA. What’s next, a Hezbollah sleeper cell broken up by Brownie Troop #259?

Don’t be dissing the Brownies, now.
/

167 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:33:33pm

re: #139 Kosh’s Shadow

And what? He withdrew from Gaza. He was in a coma before he was in a coma.
Or maybe it was a plan to say “Look at this, we can’t withdraw or the area turns into a terrorist state”.

OK criticize the withdrawal from Gaza, that’s fair, but Sharon had balls. Bibi has never shown he does.

168 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:33:36pm

re: #146 looking closely

I mean, its not like their motto is “Death to America” or anything…

Perfect, and I’m sitting here actually wondering if O would consider that a sarcastic remark or not.

169 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:33:38pm

re: #142 Nevergiveup

Gratitude? Now lets not go overboard here?

Privately, the Saudis would be grateful if Israel took out Iran’s nuke program.

Shi’a Iran is damned near on-record as wanting to rip the Sunni Arabs a new [expunged].

170 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:33:38pm

re: #48 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OT

Pictures of the Obama approved Air Superiority Fighters to replace the F-22s

You’ll love what the Navy’s getting…:)

Image: defence_cuts_navy.jpg

171 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:34:07pm

re: #133 Nevergiveup

Pedroia looks more and more like a keeper.

I tried the fantasy baseball thing a few years back- I picked a great team, but did horribly since my computer crashed and I couldn’t set the lineups I desired in time using friends’ or work computers.

Beside….who needs fantasy teams when you have the likes of a Jon Lester, Dustin Perdoia, Jacoby Ellsbury and Jonathan Papelbon on your real-life team>

172 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:34:07pm

re: #164 jcm

But they’ll learn to love us.

Rodney King diplomacy. In more ways than one.

173 jcm  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:34:18pm

re: #162 Sharmuta

6,999,290

It’s almost here.

REPENT IT’S ALMOST HERE!

174 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:34:25pm

re: #166 Soona’

Don’t be dissing the Brownies, now.
/

I got kicked out of the boy scouts for eating a brownie!

BAD SATT ,,, BAD BAD BAD

175 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:34:54pm

re: #150 jcm

Obama’s paying your mortgage anyway….

Can I quote you to the apartment complex manager?

/heh

176 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:35:20pm

re: #140 Killian Bundy

And remember, TOTUS just whacked a huge chunk out of the missile defense budget, including killing the Airborne Laser and Kinetic Kill Vehicles.

Hello…
Mr & Mrs America, the budget is 3.5 Trillion this year. 9 trillion will be added to the debt over the next few years. There are no cuts planned anywhere, except in defense.
Hello? Hello?

177 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:35:27pm

re: #173 jcm

REPENT IT’S ALMOST HERE!

I better vacuum!

178 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:35:43pm

re: #157 Kosh’s Shadow

I’ll treat them with respect when they treat me with respect. And that goes for individuals as well as the most vocal group.
However, anyone who says Israel must be destroyed, I’ll treat as an enemy.

We are not being respected & While Obama is talking about a two state solution, I nevetr hear him say that we will defend Israel.
If he has said it, I have missed it.

179 KenJen  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:35:47pm

re: #159 sattv4u2

Would not have mattered. MSM and/or McCain wouldn’t have used it anyway.

180 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:35:50pm

re: #162 Sharmuta

6,999,290

It’s almost here.

I’ve worked it out. Whoever gets the post that’s numbered 7003068 will be the official 7 millionth post. Your quoted post above, for example, was #7002369. (Hit quote to see the number of a message in its URL.)

181 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:36:05pm

re: #162 Sharmuta

6,999,290

It’s almost here.


I think it would be fitting if you got the 7 million post Sharm, after all you made 69,492 of em.

182 Dianna  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:36:32pm

re: #177 sattv4u2

I better vacuum!

Yeah. Dying with your house dirty just won’t do.

Does anyone else always make the bed just so, if you get hit by a bus, you won’t be posthumously embarrassed?

183 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:36:34pm

re: #163 Killian Bundy

Israel won’t be needing anyone’s steenking airspace

FIFY

184 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:36:36pm

re: #173 jcm

REPENT IT’S ALMOST HERE!

I better put on clean underwear!

185 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:36:39pm

re: #173 jcm

REPENT IT’S ALMOST HERE!

It’s the end of 6 million as we know it …
It’s the end of 6 million as we know it …
It’s the end of 6 million as we know it …
And I feel fine.

186 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:37:03pm

re: #177 sattv4u2

I better vacuum!

Quick!
Clean underwear!

187 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:37:06pm

re: #181 turn

No- 48,988

188 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:37:15pm

re: #178 opnion

We are not being respected & While Obama is talking about a two state solution, I nevetr hear him say that we will defend Israel.
If he has said it, I have missed it.

I don’t want Israel put into a position were anyone has to defend them.

189 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:37:15pm

re: #182 Dianna

Yeah. Dying with your house dirty just won’t do.

Does anyone else always make the bed just so, if you get hit by a bus, you won’t be posthumously embarrassed?

I don’t make the bed but my socks are matched and sorted by color…

190 J.D.  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:37:17pm

re: #184 pre-Boomer Marine brat

gmta

191 brookly red  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:37:38pm

re: #185 gmsc

It’s the end of 6 million as we know it …
It’s the end of 6 million as we know it …
It’s the end of 6 million as we know it …
And I feel fine.


that has a creepy ring to it…

192 albusteve  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:37:40pm

OT

I was bothered from the beginning how those Pitt cops walked right into the ambush the other day…seems it could have been a whole lot different…the 911 dispatcher screwed up badly


[Link: townhall.com…]

193 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:37:40pm

re: #187 Sharmuta

No- 48,988

He was counting your sock-puppets too.

194 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:37:46pm
195 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:38:01pm

re: #182 Dianna

Yeah. Dying with your house dirty just won’t do.

Does anyone else always make the bed just so, if you get hit by a bus, you won’t be posthumously embarrassed?

I never make it, I plan to live for ever! yea

196 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:38:26pm

re: #189 Leonidas Hoplite

I don’t make the bed but my socks are matched and sorted by color…

I left the house the other day with one dark blue sock on and one that was black. My 14 year old son pointed it out to me in the car.

I said it was okay because I had a pair just like it at home!

197 jorline  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:38:41pm

Reassurance from our government.

Biden rebukes Cheney, guarantees we’re ‘safer today’

Vice President Joe Biden brushed aside recent criticism by predecessor Dick Cheney that moves by the Obama administration had put the United States at risk, telling CNN on Tuesday that the former vice president was “dead wrong.”

BTW…who’s this Biden character?

198 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:39:02pm

re: #188 Nevergiveup

I don’t want Israel put into a position were anyone has to defend them.

If our President would make it clear that we will defend Israel, it would be less likely to be necessary.

199 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:39:05pm

re: #178 opnion

We are not being respected & While Obama is talking about a two state solution, I nevetr hear him say that we will defend Israel.
If he has said it, I have missed it.

No, but 0bama said
“I say the same thing to my Jewish friends - you have to see the perspective of the Palestinians. Learning to stand in someone else’s shoes, to see through their eyes… this is how peace begins.”
To the Arabs, this is what he said:

“In the Muslim world, the notion that somehow everything is the fault of the Israelis lacks balance because there are two sides to every question,” AFP quoted the US president as telling university students in Istanbul.


Excuse me while I take his advice and blow myself up, while admitting everything isn’t my fault, but some must be.

200 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:39:05pm

The Moon Bat new camo colors for the U S Military:

[Link: farm1.static.flickr.com…]

201 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:39:07pm

What ever are y’all so worried about?

Iran is a tiny little country. They pose no threat to the mighty U.S. of A.

Someone very important told me that. I’ll have to check and find out who.

Eased my mind a lot, though. Yep. Moonbeams and puppies, as far as the mind’s eye can see.

202 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:39:15pm

re: #195 turn

I never make it, I plan to live for ever! yea

so far, so good!

203 zturlte  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:39:16pm

but but we are all going to get rid of our nukes!
You mean John Bolton was right! you don’t say. So much for protecting the people no missile defense for us. You mean some must die before admitting maybe just maybe missile defense might be a good idea…maybe.

204 republic  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:39:23pm

re: #192 albusteve

OT

I was bothered from the beginning how those Pitt cops walked right into the ambush the other day…seems it could have been a whole lot different…the 911 dispatcher screwed up badly


[Link: townhall.com…]

The police that I know take any and every Domestic, very, very seriously.

205 brookly red  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:39:26pm

re: #194 buzzsawmonkey

Look on the bright side, people. If defense is cut but we get national health care, we will be the healthiest helots on the planet.

does that cover radiation burns?

206 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:39:35pm

re: #160 J.D.

The indictment charges the Chinese businessman, Li Fang Wei, a Limmt executive, and the company with fifth-degree conspiracy and falsifying business records.

A fifth-degree conspiracy? Can’t say I’m familiar with that one. Although I have heard some conspiracies that you’d have to drink a fifth to believe.

207 rawmuse  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:39:50pm

re: #182 Dianna

Yeah. Dying with your house dirty just won’t do.

Does anyone else always make the bed just so, if you get hit by a bus, you won’t be posthumously embarrassed?

Speaking of which, I almost got hit by a car today, I was squarely in the middle of the crosswalk. Kid in a Prius damn near wiped me out, 24 and Noe St. I took to the air, figured it was better to land on his hood than under his wheels.
Glad all my moving parts are checking in.

208 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:40:10pm

re: #187 Sharmuta

No- 48,988

holy s#$%, that was your karma. wow! At any rate 50k is one hell of a lot of posts, anybody got you beat?

209 albusteve  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:40:40pm

re: #204 republic

The police that I know take any and every Domestic, very, very seriously.

she knew the guy was a gun owner

210 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:40:48pm

re: #207 rawmuse

Speaking of which, I almost got hit by a car today, I was squarely in the middle of the crosswalk. Kid in a Prius damn near wiped me out, 24 and Noe St. I took to the air, figured it was better to land on his hood than under his wheels.
Glad all my moving parts are checking in.

We;ll wait for the final report from Mrs rawmuse

211 Dianna  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:41:44pm

re: #189 Leonidas Hoplite

I don’t make the bed but my socks are matched and sorted by color…

I buy multiple pairs of either white footies or black socks. It saves me a lot of time and effort.

212 turn  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:42:19pm

oh, Charles is starting a post on the 7,000,000

213 Dianna  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:42:24pm

re: #207 rawmuse

Speaking of which, I almost got hit by a car today, I was squarely in the middle of the crosswalk. Kid in a Prius damn near wiped me out, 24 and Noe St. I took to the air, figured it was better to land on his hood than under his wheels.
Glad all my moving parts are checking in.

Yikes! I’m glad you’re all right!

214 opnion  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:42:25pm

re: #199 Kosh’s Shadow

Excuse me while I take his advice and blow myself up, while admitting everything isn’t my fault, but some must be.

He is an ass!

215 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:42:52pm

Why, if you believe that Iran poses a threat, you’re probably also the kind of fearmonger that would think a tiny little country like Japan could drag a big ol’ country like ‘Murrica into a world war.

It just don’t compute.

216 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:46:10pm

re: #214 opnion

He is an ass!

And I forgot my sarc tag.

217 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:46:29pm

The mistake being made here is pursuing this sort of activity after the fact. Look how hard that turns out to be: the DoJ had to sort through a dozen or more shell corporations to track down where this material was going to wind up.

A more reasonable approach would be to attack the problem from the other end, and keep a closer eye on the suppliers. That’s one way the Secret Service stays on top of counterfeiting - they sit down with printing press manufacturers on a regular basis and go through their sales logs, chatting up questionable purchases with the salespeople involved.

For much of this material, there are very, very few sources - the US, China, Russia, maybe Japan in some cases. Those are the countries that need to get together and reach an agreement not to allow this sort of proliferation to proceed.

Sadly, it doesn’t look like we’re going to make any progress with China or Russia over the next four years. They’ve seen which way the wind is blowing, and are going to be aggressively pursuing their own ends, which include control of the Middle East’s oil reserves either for their own use (China) or for political and economic control over much of the world (Russia). Our role is going to be limited to occasional weak bleating at the UN. If that.

218 RoughRider  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:48:27pm

re: #112 Nevergiveup

Who once said that about women and rape? It was someone Famous?

Clayton Williams, he who was going to be Governor of Texas until his off-the-record comment found its way onto the record. He was cruising in the polls over Maw Richards up to that point.

219 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:50:00pm

Alcoa just reported - losses of 0.59 per share. Expectations were for 0.57, so look for market overreaction tomorrow and another down day. Consumer credit also contracted sharply, which isn’t going to help. Not to mention another round of profit-taking following the huge run-up over the last month.

220 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:52:17pm

Oh, and the guy arrested for plotting to stab Obama in Turkey? The Turkish police just let him go.

Maybe they figure failure will be punishment enough for him.

221 RoughRider  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:52:54pm

re: #207 rawmuse

I almost got hit by a car today, I was squarely in the middle of the crosswalk. Kid in a Prius damn near wiped me out, 24 and Noe St.

If a Toyota Pious hits a pedestrian in the middle of a crosswalk, which body would suffer the most damage?

222 Soona'  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:55:22pm

re: #182 Dianna

Yeah. Dying with your house dirty just won’t do.

Does anyone else always make the bed just so, if you get hit by a bus, you won’t be posthumously embarrassed?

That’s why I wear underwear. ;p

223 reggie  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:57:29pm

Sure it wasn’t just their toxic assets?

224 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:57:33pm

re: #219 SixDegrees

Alcoa just reported - losses of 0.59 per share. Expectations were for 0.57, so look for market overreaction tomorrow and another down day.

Alcoa always misses earnings.

/nothing new, baked in

225 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:58:07pm

re: #182 Dianna

Yeah. Dying with your house dirty just won’t do.

Does anyone else always make the bed just so, if you get hit by a bus, you won’t be posthumously embarrassed?

Not that, but I make sure my toenail polish looks good and my kitchen is clean.

226 BingoBunny  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 1:59:51pm

Wasn’t that much of a surprise that B ho went to Iraq.. but I was a bit surprised he didn’t call Iran and ask for landing instructions..

I think his “jus give us mo money” financial advisers over ruled it.

/they have to be good for something

227 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:00:16pm

re: #224 Killian Bundy

Alcoa always misses earnings.

/nothing new, baked in

My take is that two cents is within the noise, and not worth paying attention to.

The markets, however, are skittish. I suspect they’ll spook and overreact to the miss.

I hope they keep Geithner locked in a closet for the next couple of days.

228 Chicago Blonde  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:02:25pm

re: #127 ConservatismNow!

Another quality pick by the obama white house

Yeah, I heard that. Kumar is going to be on the White House staff and we may “have to accept” a nuclear Iran.

/Frigging great.

229 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:23:06pm

Iran? I’m going to apply the Obama “International Size-to-Threat” analysis:

USA: 3,537,441 square miles.
Iran: 636,374 square miles.

Threat level: No threat.

I mean, that’s 4% smaller than Alaska!

230 Mad Mullah  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:23:32pm

And meanwhile Obama is interested in mutual respect with the maniacal leaders of Iran. I laugh at his stupidity and the weak statements that continuously pour out of his teleprompting mouth.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — President Barack Obama reached out to Iran on Friday — the start of the Iranian New Year — in a video message offering “the promise of a new beginning” that is “grounded in mutual respect.”

231 flyovercountry  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:32:39pm

In general President Obama, this is a good time to initiate those defense dept. cuts, scale back on misile defense systems and generally abandon our staunch allies. Well, perhaps Jimmy Carter the second will lead to Ronald Reagan the second.

232 Maui Girl  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:38:53pm

Speaking of Obama and teleprompters, who else noticed that The One was using a big piece of notepaper to read from as he was addressing the troops in Iraq today. No teleprompter but big piece of paper! This guy can do nothing off the cuff except appear on late night talk shows.

233 Maui Girl  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:41:47pm

re: #225 Chicago Blonde


Funny but I can’t leave my house without making sure the bed is made. I hate getting into a messy bed at night. Yep, I plump the pillows and smooth out the bedspread. Even on vacation…..

/sadly shakes head

234 Querent  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 2:59:40pm

re: #66 opnion

I am sure that when Obama destroys our nuclear arsenal all will be well.
The Iranians, Syrians & N Koreans etal will just give up their nuclear programs.
The lion will lay down with the lamb. Of course the lamb will get it’s dumb ass eaten by the lion.

when the lamb lies down with the lion, we’d better make damned sure we’re still the lion…

235 quickjustice  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:19:15pm

Manhattan— Ground Zero once again!

236 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:23:39pm

They say New Yorkers are smart, but I really have to question that statement when it comes to their politics. They were hit in 1993 and of course on 9/11. It is 100% clear that NYC will always be the #1 target of the islamoscumbags. So if I lived in that city and state, I’d vote for the most aggressive leaders possible because I would want the bad guys to know that hitting NY means going up against people who will retaliate with strength. So what do they do? They vote for just the opposite types of people. I would never EVER say “they get what they deserve” because they don’t deserve a nuclear strike. But I fear they have sentenced themselves to something along those lines with their choices in the voting booth.

237 Curt  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:39:14pm

re: #78 Irenike

My prediction: President Teleprompter isn’t going to say a word about this. He’s got other, more important things to worry about, like firing executives at GM.

Also, I truly believe he does not give a damn whether the mullahs in Tehran have their own nuke.

I think he does give a damn…and by turning a blind eye (blank teleprompter) their way, his work is done sooner….Once done he can give us the shoulder shrug and ask “what id you want me to do?”

He said he wanted to hear our voices, he never said he was going to listen to us….

Now, there’s some freaking gallows humor for you!

238 Curt  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:41:02pm

re: #232 Maui Girl

Speaking of Obama and teleprompters, who else noticed that The One was using a big piece of notepaper to read from as he was addressing the troops in Iraq today. No teleprompter but big piece of paper! This guy can do nothing off the cuff except appear on late night talk shows.

Or talk sports…now there’s a really cerebral leader for you!

Empty suit, empty head, and…yes, and empty cod piece, too!

Hmmm…and since he’s going all over Europe asking for a spanking……Oh, don’t go there….

239 Curt  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:45:11pm

re: #221 RoughRider

If a Toyota Pious hits a pedestrian in the middle of a crosswalk, which body would suffer the most damage?

Would the perp get to walk out…because they were:

1) Driving a “green car” and reducing the carbon of the planet

and

2) Taking another carbon footprint off the accounting ledgers, thereby helping Gaia to live, while people, too numerous, die?

God help us when they bring this logic before the bench…and, it may sound crazy right now, but you know, there’s a little “collateral damage” in all wars (to save the planet)!.

240 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:47:37pm

re: #236 _RememberTonyC

They say New Yorkers are smart, but I really have to question that statement when it comes to their politics. They were hit in 1993 and of course on 9/11. It is 100% clear that NYC will always be the #1 target of the islamoscumbags. So if I lived in that city and state, I’d vote for the most aggressive leaders possible because I would want the bad guys to know that hitting NY means going up against people who will retaliate with strength. So what do they do? They vote for just the opposite types of people. I would never EVER say “they get what they deserve” because they don’t deserve a nuclear strike. But I fear they have sentenced themselves to something along those lines with their choices in the voting booth.

RememberTonyC -

The Victims of 1993 and 2001 are by now “long dead and buried” in the minds of the average NYC Voter. The average NYC voter pays NO Federal, and little if NO NY State or City Income Tax, per NYC Mayor Bloomberg. Pres. Obama offers them more “Free Stuff” than Sen. McCain. Why vote against Santa Claus?

-S-

241 Zack  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 3:57:20pm

Looks like they are still in a materials acquisition phase.
Heaven help us if/when they get to the phase where they are breaking down and distributing parts of their completed nukes via their Hezbollah network.

242 Mad Mullah  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:19:05pm

re: #236 _RememberTonyC

They say New Yorkers are smart, but I really have to question that statement when it comes to their politics. They were hit in 1993 and of course on 9/11. It is 100% clear that NYC will always be the #1 target of the islamoscumbags. So if I lived in that city and state, I’d vote for the most aggressive leaders possible because I would want the bad guys to know that hitting NY means going up against people who will retaliate with strength. So what do they do? They vote for just the opposite types of people. I would never EVER say “they get what they deserve” because they don’t deserve a nuclear strike. But I fear they have sentenced themselves to something along those lines with their choices in the voting booth.

Well, I’m a New Yorker, a smart one, because I didn’t vote for “the one”. I’m also glad that Giuliani was mayor when 9/11 happened and not some incompetent fool like Dinkins, one of the worst mayors ever in NYC.

And since I’m a New Yorker, and if there were to be another attack (because you know those dirty Islamofascists have a huge hard on for New York) I will indeed say that they got what they voted for.

243 Boxy_brown  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 4:38:22pm

Robert Morgenthau: doing the work that US government has been too screwed up to do for 35 years.

244 Pupdawg  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 7:01:03pm

re: #115 Dianna

That was the Chinese. The Russians just didn’t tell the family. The family used to find out by going around to each of the prisons and seeing where the parcel was accepted.

If it wasn’t accepted at any of them, your loved one was dead.

Frankly? As awful as it is, I’d rather get the charge for the bullet. At least I’d know for sure, and fairly soon.

Months back I watched a TV crime special that was about one of the USSR’s most prolific serial killers. He was eventually executed by the method of the day, shot in the head in his cell. The information close to the end of the piece was that the family was charged for the bullet used to execute him. At the time, I thought, ‘how cold and cruel!’

245 charles_martel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:53:23am

re: #240 Dr. Shalit

The average NYC pays no federal tax? Wow, I should get in on this deal. Wait a minute…..I am a New Yorker and I pay a lot of tax. Gee, I guess you’re wrong. Really, really wrong.

246 Canoe Train  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:06:07am

re: #13 Sharmuta

I suspect that they only way to generate “ripples” in this case would be to actually, you know, arrest, prosecute, and *convict* everyone involve, to the full extent of the law. Don’t like US justice ? Boo Hoo. If they do business in the United States, they are subject to United States laws - no matter if they like it or not.

“Follow the money.”


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