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The health of a nation is inversely proportional to the number of laws needed to govern it.

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1 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:34:53pm

Awsome

2 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:35:31pm

OT: And now, today's example of stupidity incarnate.

The Associated Press is threatening to sue a Tennessee radio station for . . . are you ready for this? . . . embedding YouTube videos from the AP's YouTube Channel without first purchasing a license from the AP!

AP lowers the hammer on rural East TN radio station

sadcox That sound you hear is everyone breaking their AP links at the same time. HT jacklail [Link: ow.ly...]
about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck

FrankStrovel I was on the phone arguing w/ AP today. We were embedding their YouTube vids on our station's site. We're an AP affiliate.
about 1 hour ago from web in reply to sadcox

FrankStrovel They asked us to taken them down. I asked, "Why do you have a YouTube page w/ embed codes for websites?" Still... they said NO.
about 1 hour ago from web

sadcox hahaha...they put it on youtube but don't want other people to watch it. Do they know they can control that themselves?
about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck in reply to FrankStrovel

sadcox They need to address that with YouTube. They should probably read the Terms they agreed to.
about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck in reply to FrankStrovel

RELATED: jacklailRT: AP 2 sue blogs & such to overturn fair use, save newspapers. In other news: Fat, stupid dinos sue mammals [Link: ow.ly...]
about 2 hours ago from web

FYI: Here's Frank's blog. And here's Scott Adcox's. Jack Lail is here.

JorgXMcKie sums it up perfectly in the comments:

And just like those Dumb *&%6^#@s who run/own newspapers they won't have a clue about why the world is coming down around their ears.

3 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:36:16pm

BatGuano had inside information! He's a witch, or something.

/channeling the late LynnNZ.

4 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:36:17pm

I'm going to repeat this:

I want to say something about looking for "Another Reagan" as some sort of political messiah.

We called him the Great Communicator, and he was. He was brilliant at it. But why? Not just because of him, but because of what it was he was communicating. Conservatism.

Get back to the ideology, and one who can communicate conservatism the most effectively will win.

5 rhino2  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:37:41pm

True words.

6 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:39:05pm

And now, some lighter fare: The Trick that Fooled Einstein!

7 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:39:35pm

Testing his microphone moments before a 1984 radio address, President Reagan quipped to the technician: "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."

Unfortunately, it got out to, possibly, the wrong people.

8 pat  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:39:38pm

Carter at least has a Submarine named after him. although he tried to halt all naval spending. If the country last this appeasing loon named Obama, we will be lucky to have a navy.

9 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:39:47pm

What was that Paul Theroux said about a country not being truly backwards until there was more than one statue of it's present leader prominently displayed in public?

10 Gus  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:40:28pm

Aaron Copland

Fanfare for the Common Man

11 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:41:13pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

Reagan was also very patient. He took the time to build a loyal following, and a solid donor base. These things take time (decades even) and planning. You are quite right, he didn't appear out of nowhere.

12 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:41:13pm

"No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women."
--Ronald Reagan

13 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:41:20pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

I'll take that over endless backbiting and circular firing squads amongst conservatives while Hussein Dolt coasts to another four years of occupancy at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

14 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:41:26pm

Another fine example of government-run healthcare.

Reducing health care costs by eliminating the patients.

15 rawmuse  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:42:03pm

re: #7 Dustyvet

Testing his microphone moments before a 1984 radio address, President Reagan quipped to the technician: "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."

Unfortunately, it got out to, possibly, the wrong people.

I happened to be in Leningrad at that precise moment.

16 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:42:18pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

I assume that you know, Sharmuta, that R.W.R. honed his skills traveling the country speaking for G.E.?

The man started as an actor. Morphed into a union rep. Morphed into a corporate flack. Became Governor. Became President.

We can all grow, given the right soil and food.

17 BignJames  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:43:29pm

re: #8 pat

Carter at least has a Submarine named after him. although he tried to halt all naval spending. If the country last this appeasing loon named Obama, we will be lucky to have a navy.

The only sub w/screen doors.

18 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:44:55pm

Later Lizards, time for me to knock off.

Peas!

19 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:45:07pm

re: #6 gmsc

And now, some lighter fare: The Trick that Fooled Einstein!


[Video]

Relabel that as the trick that crashes FireFox.

20 razorbacker  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:48:21pm

re: #18 Slumbering Behemoth

Later Lizards, time for me to knock off.

Peas!

I'm seeing whirled peas. What a wonderful world.

21 Gus  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:48:46pm
22 rawmuse  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:48:57pm

re: #14 SixDegrees

Unfortunately, the ones responsible for that mistake will probably get promoted, to a place where they can do less damage.

23 calcajun  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:49:04pm

For every action, there is a law to prohibit it.

24 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:49:16pm

I am eating a Canadian bacon and pineapple pizza. With green onions.

25 calcajun  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:49:42pm

re: #18 Slumbering Behemoth

And may Peas and Beans be upon you!

26 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:50:03pm

re: #19 Neo Con since 9-11

Relabel that as the trick that crashes FireFox.

Just watching the video? Or clicking on the link?

You may need to upgrade your Flash-plug-in.

27 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:50:05pm

re: #20 razorbacker

I'm seeing whirled peas. What a wonderful world.

Linda Blare harf up another demon?

/S

28 BignJames  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:50:10pm

re: #24 Sharmuta


No anchovies?

29 calcajun  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:50:11pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

I am eating a Canadian bacon and pineapple pizza. With green onions.

Philistine!

30 Gus  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:50:21pm

re: #23 calcajun

For every action, there is a law to prohibit it.

Hold on a second. Do you have a permit for that comment? //

31 Kragar  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:50:47pm

Some Cicero

The strictest law often causes the most serious wrong.

The welfare of the people is the ultimate law.

The people's good is the highest law.

32 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:50:47pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

I am eating a Canadian bacon and pineapple pizza. With green onions.

BLASPHEMY!

Those pineapples could be harvested by Dole, made into juice and mixed with some cut-rate bargain brand vodka...

/Chilled, of course.

33 calcajun  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:51:05pm

re: #30 Gus 802

My California State Bar card will do.

34 Gus  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:51:49pm

re: #33 calcajun

My California State Bar card will do.

Ah, esquire. ;)

35 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:51:58pm

It was the slice of the day- which cracked me up because of earlier.

36 calcajun  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:52:49pm

re: #34 Gus 802

Shhh. Don't tell people. They have pitchforks.

37 Gus  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:53:27pm

re: #36 calcajun

Shhh. Don't tell people. They have pitchforks.

Pitchforks and tissues!

//sniff

38 calcajun  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:53:53pm

re: #35 Sharmuta

It was the slice of the day- which cracked me up because of earlier.

Next, it'll be "gumbo pizza" with okra and crawfish.

39 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:53:54pm

re: #36 calcajun

Shhh. Don't tell people. They have pitchforks.

Don't worry- they won't use them until Glenn Beck says when.

40 Zimriel  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:54:00pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

I am eating a Canadian bacon and pineapple pizza. With green onions.

We're still full from bircher buttock in the last thread. *burrp*

Congratulations to LudwigVanQuixote for carving up the beast.

41 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:54:03pm

re: #31 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Some Cicero

The strictest law often causes the most serious wrong.

The welfare of the people is the ultimate law.

The people's good is the highest law.

9 Bizarre Moments in Economic History

1. Cake or Death?

In order to stop rising inflation and devaluation of the currency in third century Rome, Emperor Diocletian instituted fixed prices on most consumer goods. Anyone selling goods at prices higher than those of the emperor was put to death; this led to hoarding of goods. A law was then passed that forbade the hoarding of goods. Penalty? Death. So people just closed their businesses, then another law was passed. You guessed it: shut down your business or fail to follow in your father’s business? Death. It’s amazing the Roman Empire lasted as long as it did.

42 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:54:17pm

Pizza thief...BUSTED!


Image: funny-pictures-busted-cat.jpg

43 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:54:44pm

re: #38 calcajun

Next, it'll be "gumbo pizza" with okra and crawfish.

That'd be right tasty, too. Mmmm, mud bugs.

44 calcajun  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:55:06pm

re: #39 Sharmuta

Don't worry- they won't use them until Glenn Beck says when.

A riot is an ugly ting!

45 Cheechako  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:55:07pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

I am eating a Canadian bacon and pineapple pizza. With green onions.

Was there a Country of Origin Label on the bacon to prove it was from Canada?

46 Gus  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:55:49pm

re: #44 calcajun

A riot is an ugly ting!

A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.

47 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:55:55pm

9 Bizarre Moments in Economic History

2. Gonna Barter Like It’s B.C. 99

When the Roman Empire collapsed in the 5th century, so did the Roman financial system. Part of the collapse was the disappearance of Roman coinage. Nowhere was this more evident than in England, where, according to archeological evidence, money basically disappeared, driving the British isles straight back to a barter economy. Coinage only came back centuries later when the English were forced to pay protection money (Danegeld) to the Vikings to stop the constant pillaging.

48 calcajun  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:56:16pm

Night all. My whiskey glass is empty and I am off to bed.

On the morrow!

49 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:56:20pm

re: #45 Cheechako

Was there a Country of Origin Label on the bacon to prove it was from Canada?

You won't find "Canadian bacon" in Canada. We call it "back bacon."

50 Gus  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:57:01pm

re: #48 calcajun

Night all. My whiskey glass is empty and I am off to bed.

On the morrow!

Later. Mine is half way through where the label says "Mist."

51 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:57:05pm

re: #45 Cheechako

Was there a Country of Origin Label on the bacon to prove it was from Canada?

Bacon eatted teh nirth cirtifikut?

52 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:57:05pm
53 Cygnus  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:57:46pm

re: #8 pat

Carter at least has a Submarine named after him. although he tried to halt all naval spending. If the country last this appeasing loon named Obama, we will be lucky to have a navy.

Is that the submarine that has a screen door installed?

54 gmsc  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:58:05pm

9 Bizarre Moments in Economic History

3. 99.9% Pure

In 15th century Germany, grain shortages – acceptable – frequently led to beer shortages – unacceptable. In response, brewers in towns like Munich and Regensburg used seeds, spices, and rushes to flavor their beers. Showing an uncomfortable foreshadowing of future events, German authorities instituted purity laws stating that only water, barley, and hops could be used in the brewing of beer. The rule, or Reinheitsgebot, is still on the books today.

55 Zimriel  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:59:12pm

re: #41 gmsc

You guessed it: shut down your business or fail to follow in your father’s business? Death. It’s amazing the Roman Empire lasted as long as it did.

That was Diocletian. He was good at organising an army and a bureaucracy. An economy, not so much. The best that can be said for the fourth century emperors was that they kept the Empire stumbling along, which is more than can be said for the emperors before Diocletian or after Julian.

Diocletian was also fond of killing Christians, famously. Julian was pagan too but at least he kept his hands off it.

56 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:59:18pm

Can I just say the last thread's title is classic.

57 Kragar  Tue, Apr 7, 2009 11:59:23pm

re: #49 Alberta Oil Peon

You won't find "Canadian bacon" in Canada. We call it "back bacon."

What about Bacon lube?

58 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:00:17am

re: #40 Zimriel

I can't say I'm surprised.

59 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:00:50am

Iron Fist was right. There is a point beyond which you should not post.

*It's not like anyone else is going to say, 'razorbacker, you really oughta go on to bed."*

So I'm going to say it.

I've got to go to bed.

Good night.

60 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:01:26am

re: #57 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

What about Bacon lube?

I think I will stick with bacon-flavored bacon, thanks.

61 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:01:28am

re: #41 gmsc

9 Bizarre Moments in Economic History

1. Cake or Death?

In order to stop rising inflation and devaluation of the currency in third century Rome, Emperor Diocletian instituted fixed prices on most consumer goods. Anyone selling goods at prices higher than those of the emperor was put to death; this led to hoarding of goods. A law was then passed that forbade the hoarding of goods. Penalty? Death. So people just closed their businesses, then another law was passed. You guessed it: shut down your business or fail to follow in your father’s business? Death. It’s amazing the Roman Empire lasted as long as it did.

re: #55 Zimriel

That was Diocletian. He was good at organising an army and a bureaucracy. An economy, not so much. The best that can be said for the fourth century emperors was that they kept the Empire stumbling along, which is more than can be said for the emperors before Diocletian or after Julian.

Diocletian was also fond of killing Christians, famously. Julian was pagan too but at least he kept his hands off it.

Yep. It sure was.

62 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:01:57am

re: #56 Sharmuta

Can I just say the last thread's title is classic.

I think you were the inspiration to it. I did the other part.

63 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:02:07am

9 Bizarre Moments in Economic History

4. Nothing But the Best for France

While the Sun King, Louis XIV, and his building of Versailles typically get all the credit for bankrupting France in the seventeenth century, his Minister of Finance, Jean-Baptiste Colbert deserves some kudos as well. Colbert’s tax schemes, deficit spending, and manic obsession with the production of luxury goods – to the detriment, or outright exclusion of ordinary consumer goods – emptied the French treasuries, drove the peasantry to starvation, and laid the foundation for the bloodiest revolution of the age. But, let’s face it: who wouldn’t trade the fate of an entire nation for a really, really well made tapestry?

64 Lorenska  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:02:12am

I think that's a great quote, and it perfectly describes the path the US has been on for years...something slightly out of control, not sure how to handle it, don't LIKE something? Legislate! Write a new law! Outlaw it - or, if the situation fits, inlaw it. Want more of something? Make it required. Less? Make it illegal. Something hurting someone's feelings? A policy will fix that right up. Someone annoying someone nearby? A new regulation will do just fine. How about if something just annoys your sensibilities? Let's just enact a new code to ensure it doesn't happen again. Someone in your neighborhood making too much money for your taste? We can fix that - and grandfather it, even!
Call it what you will, everytime someone gets the slightest bit off the reservation in this country, we want to legislate it. And the reservation is getting smaller and narrower every day.

65 Cygnus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:02:41am

re: #24 Sharmuta

I am eating a Canadian bacon and pineapple pizza. With green onions.

With green onions? Blasphemy!

66 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:02:46am

re: #3 Alberta Oil Peon

BatGuano had inside information! He's a witch, or something.

/channeling the late LynnNZ.

What information do I have? And who is lynnNZ?

67 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:02:48am

Mmmm Bacon!

Image: mmm-bacon.jpg

68 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:03:44am

9 Bizarre Moments in Economic History

5. Adjustable Rate Mortgage, Archduke Ferdinand?

In the 1860s, the rulers of the newly-formed Austro-Hungarian Empire encouraged their bankers to be more free with their lending standards. Their goal was to encourage growth in the empire. The result (this is going to sound eerily familiar) was over-speculation in building, massive default on borrowed funds, and economic collapse throughout Central Europe. The worldwide depression reached all the way to the United States and triggered the Panic of 1873. On the bright side, many of the most beautiful buildings in Europe come from this period of “irrational exuberance.”

69 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:04:20am

re: #67 Dustyvet

Mmmm Bacon!

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]

Bacon catz!

70 wiffersnapper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:04:38am

excellent quote, should be made into a bumper sticker

71 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:05:16am

re: #40 Zimriel

We're still full from bircher buttock in the last thread. *burrp*

Congratulations to LudwigVanQuixote for carving up the beast.

you got a grid for that?

/wanna see the wreckage

72 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:06:03am

9 Bizarre Moments in Economic History

6. Mississippi Burning

John Law, a Scottish banker and businessman, took control of a French enterprise called the Mississippi Company in 1717. In just a few years, he turned the company into the main economic force behind the French colonies throughout the world. The share price for the company went from about 500 livres in 1719 to 10,000 livres in 1720. Just one year later though, in a rather Enron-like turnaround, the stock price collapsed, Law fled France, and the French government (as the primary shareholder) was forced to cancel a significant portion of its debt obligations leaving lenders throughout the world ruined. Economists refer to the episode as the “Mississippi Bubble.”

73 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:06:38am

re: #71 redc1c4

you got a grid for that?

/wanna see the wreckage

I think it's located in that other country with a shape like a boot.

74 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:07:18am
75 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:07:40am

re: #66 BatGuano

What information do I have? And who is lynnNZ?

Your comment on the previous thread, re the overnight Open Thread, appeared at the exact moment that the Open Thread itself did, thus making you appear privy to secret knowledge. //

And earlier in that thread, LynnNZ got the stick for promoting a Bircher conspiracy theory about how FDR knew pearl harbor was about to happen, but did nothing to prevent it, in order to provoke a war.

So a conspiracy theorist would obviously conclude that you had some hidden knowledge of the open thread, simply based on a coincidence of time.

So it was an attempt at an "in joke."

76 Cygnus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:08:23am

re: #74 gmsc

Seen on a public washroom hand dryer.
;)

Creative graffiti WIN

77 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:08:59am

9 Bizarre Moments in Economic History

7. The Mason-Dixon Bottom Line

Many have read about the effects of hyperinflation on the German Weimar Republic. From 1920-1923, prices in Germany increased as much as 3.25 million percent. People burned their old currency for warmth, since it was less costly than buying wood. But, few know that the same type of hyperinflation, albeit to a lesser extent, affected the Confederate States of America. From 1861 to 1864, the commodity price index rose as high as 10% a month. By the end of the Civil War, the cost of living in dear old Dixie was 92% higher than before the war.

78 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:10:00am

re: #71 redc1c4

Not much wreckage after this.

79 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:10:11am

re: #61 gmsc

Yep. It sure was.

Good night lizards, sleep well

80 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:10:45am

re: #77 gmsc

9 Bizarre Moments in Economic History

7. The Mason-Dixon Bottom Line

that was all Lincoln's fault: if he hadn't blockaded their ports, things wouldn't have gotten so bad.

81 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:10:46am

re: #79 Zimriel

Good night lizards, sleep well

Have a good one.

82 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:10:52am

re: #79 Zimriel

Good night lizards, sleep well

Sleep well, Zimriel

83 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:11:06am

9 Bizarre Moments in Economic History

8. Prayer Pays

In 1943, due to shortage of raw materials like paper and leather, and an increase in wartime piety, there was an actual Bible shortage in the United States.

84 stuiec  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:11:59am

re: #2 gmsc

The AP essentially are the dummies who own the newspapers -- a cartel of those dummies.

85 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:12:24am

9 Bizarre Moments in Economic History

9. Tokyo Falling

Japan had one of the most meteoric economic rises of the twentieth century. By the late ‘80s, property values had risen so high that all the land in Japan was worth four times the value of all the property in the United States. The real estate value of Tokyo alone was valued at more than that of all America. By the end of the century, however, the Tokyo stock exchange was off 60 percent of its 1989 high, and property values had fallen as much as 80 percent. Some blame over-speculation, others blame Michael Crichton’s novel Rising Sun.

.

86 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:12:31am

re: #78 Fenway_Nation

Not much wreckage after this.

well, *that* was a career limiting move...

87 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:13:15am

re: #80 redc1c4

that was all Lincoln's fault: if he hadn't blockaded their ports, things wouldn't have gotten so bad.

The failed policies of the Lincoln administration?

///

88 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:14:36am

re: #75 Alberta Oil Peon

Got it! The question I posed was, "how awesome is BatGuano", as response to the perspicacios gmsc.

89 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:16:25am

re: #88 BatGuano

Got it! The question I posed was, "how awesome is BatGuano", as response to the perspicacios gmsc.

The answer is, obviously awesome enough to have inside knowledge of the timing of the creation of the overnight thread!

90 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:16:45am

re: #87 gmsc

The failed policies of the Lincoln administration?

///

those damn republicans

91 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:17:38am

Traffic backup during Baghdad rush hour...


Image: Funny_Money_Mule.jpg

92 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:18:35am

re: #91 Dustyvet

Traffic backup during Baghdad rush hour...

[Link: www.ultrascan.nl...]

Aw, that's just a drag donkey doing a hoofie.

93 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:18:53am

re: #91 Dustyvet

Traffic backup during Baghdad rush hour...

[Link: www.ultrascan.nl...]

Looks like the Democratic Party congress.

94 stuiec  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:21:29am

re: #91 Dustyvet

That's a traffic front-up. The back is down.

95 freetoken  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:21:53am

Wow, I go away for a few hours, come back and check the last Beck thread... it seems quite a few interesting things came out of the rafters.

Charles has been on quite the pace the past couple of days. Maybe he is in the mood for some spring cleaning?

96 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:23:31am

The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop.
P. J. O'Rourke

97 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:24:43am

I suppose next the pizza purists won't let me get peanut butter on my chocolate.

98 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:25:27am

Whatever it is that the government does, sensible Americans would prefer that the government does it to somebody else. This is the idea behind foreign policy.
P. J. O'Rourke

99 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:25:47am

re: #97 Sharmuta

I suppose next the pizza purists won't let me get peanut butter on my chocolate.

You have whatever you want...:)

100 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:25:55am

re: #97 Sharmuta

I suppose next the pizza purists won't let me get peanut butter on my chocolate.

no, but you can put chocolate on your peanut butter.

101 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:25:55am

re: #97 Sharmuta

I suppose next the pizza purists won't let me get peanut butter on my chocolate.

As long as you don't put coconut on it. Coconut is a non-food.

102 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:26:18am

re: #97 Sharmuta

I suppose next the pizza purists won't let me get peanut butter on my chocolate.

Begrudgingly- only because you got chocolate all over my peanut butter.

103 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:26:23am

re: #97 Sharmuta

I suppose next the pizza purists won't let me get peanut butter on my chocolate.

That's acceptable. Whatever you do never put mayo on liverwurst.

104 freetoken  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:26:23am

re: #97 Sharmuta

You mean, you defile the Food Of The Gods with... peanut butter?

105 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:26:27am

re: #101 Alberta Oil Peon

As long as you don't put coconut on it. Coconut is a non-food.

you're supposed to put the lime in the coconut.

106 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:26:36am

re: #97 Sharmuta

You may have peanut butter on your chocolate, but you may have neither on your pizza.

107 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:26:59am

"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings."

108 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:28:27am

re: #104 freetoken

You mean, you defile the Food Of The Gods with... peanut butter?

Like with pineapple on pizza, only on occasion, to give life a little variety.

109 Syrah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:29:12am

re: #97 Sharmuta

I suppose next the pizza purists won't let me get peanut butter on my chocolate.

No worries.

Let the pizza purist stew in their own conformity.

There's will be a very boring perdition with nothing to eat but card-board flavored frozen pizzas.

110 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:29:15am

re: #106 BatGuano

You may have peanut butter on your chocolate, but you may have neither on your pizza.

No dessert pizza? :(

111 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:29:19am

re: #95 freetoken

Its just a spring clean for the may queen.

112 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:29:48am

{Syrah}

113 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:29:57am
114 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:30:03am

re: #97 Sharmuta

I suppose next the pizza purists won't let me get peanut butter on my chocolate.

115 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:32:00am

re: #110 Sharmuta

None. Sorry.

116 Syrah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:33:52am

I have tried vegan pizza.

It was that or nothing since I am severely lactose intolerant.

It wasn't that bad, but it wasn't pizza. I would say it was really just a cracker with toppings.

But it just isn't pizza without the cheese.

sigh

117 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:34:09am

Syrah- how's the reading going?

118 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:35:13am

re: #114 gmsc

I'm really old. I remember that.

119 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:35:38am

re: #113 redc1c4

truly disturbed...

That was a fun video. I always did like that song, kind of hypnotic in its simplicity.

120 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:35:56am

A Mom comes to visit her son John who’s living with a female roommate named Samantha. John’s mother doesn’t like the idea of her son living with a woman, as he’s in college and doesn’t need any distractions. To ease his mother’s worries, John invites her to stay for dinner.

During the course of the meal, his mother couldn’t help but notice how pretty John’s roommate was. She had long been suspicious of a relationship between the two and this had only made her more curious.

Over the course of the evening, while watching the two interact, she started to wonder if there was more between John and his roommate than met the eye. Reading his mom’s thoughts, John volunteered, “I know what your thinking Mom, but I assure you, Samantha and I are just roommates.”

About a week later, Samantha came to John saying, “Ever since your mother came to dinner, I’ve been unable to find the silver peanut butter jar. You don’t suppose she took it, do you?” John said, “Well, I doubt it, but I’ll email her, just to be sure.”

So he sat down and wrote:

Dear Mother,
I’m not saying that you ‘did’ take the peanut butter jar from my house, I’m not saying that you ‘did not’ take the peanut butter jar. But the fact remains that it has been missing ever since you were here for dinner.

Love,
John

Several days later, John received an email from his Mother which read:

Dear Son,
I’m not saying that you ‘do’ sleep with Samantha, and I’m not saying that you ‘do not’ sleep with Samantha. But the fact remains that if she was sleeping in her OWN bed, she would have found the peanut butter jar under her pillow…

Love,
Mom

121 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:36:12am

You know. I was searching for chocolate pizza and came across Sponge Bob. Never watched it before. Are they serious? Am I looking at the wrong videos or is Sponge Bob actually that psycho?

122 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:37:23am

re: #118 BatGuano

I'm really old. I remember that.

I'm old too. I even remember this one, which I call "An American Pepper in London":

123 Syrah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:38:50am

re: #117 Sharmuta

Syrah- how's the reading going?

Slow.

These last four weeks have been a little rough. I am still adjusting to the new job and and a different commute. I don't have as much time alone as I would like or that is necessary for reading this type of book.

I just posted a few thoughts on the issue of Time that was brought up on page 79.

124 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:38:53am

re: #110 Sharmuta

No dessert pizza? :(

but of course there is...

and a long thread with some "how to" info.

125 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:39:58am

And now for some Junior Brown. It don't get any better than this.

126 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:40:31am

re: #124 redc1c4

I'm still recovering from you last fruitcup...

/The doc says in a few weeks I'll be able to tell the difference between red and green again.

127 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:40:41am

re: #121 Gus 802

You know. I was searching for chocolate pizza and came across Sponge Bob. Never watched it before. Are they serious? Am I looking at the wrong videos or is Sponge Bob actually that psycho?

If you're referring to this video, no. Somebody took SpongeBob footage and edited it in a psycho manner.

Here are some legitimate Spongebob Squarepants episodes for comparison.

128 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:40:56am

re: #123 Syrah

It's alright. I've not read any for the last 24 hours. I'm kind of allowing it to sink in so far and pondering many things. I'll check that comment out though.

129 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:41:37am

re: #126 Fenway_Nation

I'm still recovering from you last fruitcup...

/The doc says in a few weeks I'll be able to tell the difference between red and green again.

well, if it helps any, most greens are just reds in disguise.

130 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:41:51am

re: #128 Sharmuta

It's alright. I've not read any for the last 24 hours. I'm kind of allowing it to sink in so far and pondering many things. I'll check that comment out though.

what are you two reading?

131 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:42:20am

re: #129 redc1c4

well, if it helps any, most greens are just reds in disguise.

Cross dressing?

132 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:42:44am

re: #131 Fenway_Nation

Cross dressing?

politically speaking...

133 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:44:03am

re: #130 redc1c4

what are you two reading?

A Conflict of Visions, by Thomas Sowell.

Syrah- that was an excellent observation. +1

134 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:44:03am

re: #127 gmsc

If you're referring to this video, no. Somebody took SpongeBob footage and edited it in a psycho manner.

Here are some legitimate Spongebob Squarepants episodes for comparison.

OK Thanks. That was one of them. Seems to be a few of those on Youtube. Never saw it before and was wondering if they actually let children watch that kind of thing. Whoever edits those for Youtube must be out of his mind.

135 Syrah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:44:17am

re: #130 redc1c4

what are you two reading?

A Conflict of visions.

136 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:44:34am

After the pressure of dealing with the anticipation of the 7 millionth post, the LGF server hamsters have decided to upgrade their equipment:

137 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:45:15am

re: #135 Syrah

A Conflict of visions.

We'll have to put up another spinoff on Friday.

138 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:45:16am

re: #134 Gus 802

OK Thanks. That was one of them. Seems to be a few of those on Youtube. Never saw it before and was wondering if they actually let children watch that kind of thing. Whoever edits those for Youtube must be out of his mind.

SpongeBob is psycho in its own way, but it's a lot more of a fun psycho.

139 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:45:32am

re: #132 redc1c4

I remember my uncle calling them 'Watermelons'- green on the outside, red on the inside.

140 Syrah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:46:53am

re: #137 Sharmuta

We'll have to put up another spinoff on Friday.

7 times 7 if necessary.

There is much in the book. It is not a light meal.

141 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:47:36am

re: #138 gmsc

SpongeBob is psycho in its own way, but it's a lot more of a fun psycho.

Like off the wall. That's OK for kids to a certain extent. When I saw the edited versions my jaw dropped and I started thinking that maybe they should stop looking at mercury and MMR vaccines if you know what I mean.

142 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:47:38am

re: #140 Syrah

7 times 7 if necessary.

There is much in the book. It is not a light meal.

49!

(Sorry, habit.)

143 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:48:42am

re: #141 Gus 802

Like off the wall. That's OK for kids to a certain extent. When I saw the edited versions my jaw dropped and I started thinking that maybe they should stop looking at mercury and MMR vaccines if you know what I mean.

Hmmm . . . I wonder . . .
;)

144 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:52:35am

Damn it! Keyboard is fucked up. Wife spilled Vodka red bull on it!

145 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:52:47am

re: #140 Syrah

7 times 7 if necessary.

There is much in the book. It is not a light meal.

It's already the most dog eared book I own. More than my Shakespearian Sonnets, I think.

146 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:54:07am

re: #143 gmsc

Hmmm . . . I wonder . . .
;)

They should do that of course but that's like talking to a wall. There's no doubt that some of the hyper media has a physiological and neurological effect on kids. I've been away from TV for years now so I don't know what's going on there. I do watch some video online which is different. We have a TV in the game room of this building and frankly it's rather hectic -- probably seizure inducing.

Just pondering these things. Not like it's a crusade for me or anything like that.

147 Syrah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:54:55am

re: #145 Sharmuta

It's already the most dog eared book I own. More than my Shakespearian Sonnets, I think.

I can only imagine what it must have been like to be one of his students. It must have been a maddening avalanche of data with every class.

148 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:55:12am

from my teenage years. On the same album as coanut was this:

149 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:56:11am

re: #141 Gus 802

Like off the wall. That's OK for kids to a certain extent. When I saw the edited versions my jaw dropped and I started thinking that maybe they should stop looking at mercury and MMR vaccines if you know what I mean.

I blame Sesame Street for ADD, or ADHD or whatever. It trained a generation to think in 30-60 second increments.

150 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:57:24am

re: #149 Sharmuta

I blame Sesame Street for ADD, or ADHD or whatever. It trained a generation to think in 30-60 second increments.

they can think?

151 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:58:11am

i'm reading "Southern Storm", which is about Sherman's "march to the sea"

152 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:58:54am

My single most favorite song of all time is Peter Criss' Beth. I think I was always amazed how such a short song could evoke so much emotion.

I like this version, where Peter Criss is backed by a symphont orchestra, each member of which is made up to look like one of the members of KISS:

153 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:59:11am

re: #149 Sharmuta

I blame Sesame Street for ADD, or ADHD or whatever. It trained a generation to think in 30-60 second increments.

Good point. What year did that come out? I never watched it.

Something like that should be studied but don't count on it. Sesame Street is a sacred cow for liberals and they're the ones that usually get the grants for those kinds of studies.

154 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:02:04am

re: #153 Gus 802

I love Sesame Street Muppets as much as the regular Muppets.

155 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:03:08am

re: #151 redc1c4

The last book I read re-read was Mark Bowden's Killing Pablo to see if I could draw any parallels between Pablo Escobar's war against the Colombian government and the current narcoinsurgency in Mexico.

156 Syrah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:03:54am

A fun and silly song about limes and coconuts for the lizards, and a goodnight.

Back tomorrow - See you all then.

157 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:04:04am

re: #147 Syrah

I think it would be amazing to hear him give a lecture or speech. I've been working some of it into my comments already, and jaunte gets one I'm talking about. I hope others will pick up the book.

158 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:04:16am

re: #156 Syrah

Bye!

159 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:04:27am

re: #154 Sharmuta

I love Sesame Street Muppets as much as the regular Muppets.

Didn't know there was a difference. Bert and Ernie could have gotten their own show.

160 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:05:31am

re: #156 Syrah

A fun and silly song about limes and coconuts for the lizards, and a goodnight.

Back tomorrow - See you all then.


[Video]

G'Nite Syrah.

161 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:05:53am

re: #152 gmsc

My all-time favorite song.

162 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:06:09am

re: #156 Syrah

A fun and silly song about limes and coconuts for the lizards, and a goodnight.

Back tomorrow - See you all then.


[Video]

there's an echo in here... short & silly

163 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:06:10am

re: #159 Gus 802

Didn't know there was a difference. Bert and Ernie could have gotten their own show.

Homicide: Life on Sesame Street?

/stole that from Family Guy

164 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:07:39am

Here's a treat – Margaret Hamilton (The Wicked Witch of the West from The Wizard of Oz) on Mr. Rogers, helping kids not to be scared of her character.

165 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:08:26am

re: #163 Fenway_Nation

Homicide: Life on Sesame Street?

/stole that from Family Guy

Ha, that's a good one. You ever watch Homicide? Was OK before it turned into another hour long liberal instructional video. Same thing like NYPDF Blue. Two shows they turned into a grown up Sesame Street crime drama.

166 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:09:22am

that's it: i'm for bed...

enjoy the fruitcup: i kicked it up a notch or two, just for Fenway!

hasta, y'all...

L8r!

167 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:11:57am

re: #166 redc1c4

that's it: i'm for bed...

enjoy the fruitcup: i kicked it up a notch or two, just for Fenway!

hasta, y'all...

L8r!

Good nite, red!

168 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:12:45am

A Bert and Ernie spin off would be more like the Odd Couple, except on drug.

Speaking of Muppets and drugs:

169 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:12:59am

Creedence Clearwater Revival - Lodi (1969)

170 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:14:39am

The Band don't want to.

171 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:14:58am

re: #168 Sharmuta

A Bert and Ernie spin off would be more like the Odd Couple, except on drug.

Speaking of Muppets and drugs:

"Bear left."
"Right, frog."

I haven't seen the full movie in a looong time.

172 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:15:52am

re: #165 Gus 802

I thought it was pretty good until they started introducing all the impossibly pretty/pretty-boy detectives.

The episode where Robin Williams guest-starred pretty much spat in the face of some liberal platitudes so prevalent in Hollywood.

/I heard that Yaphet Kotto went out of his way to make sure that he got killed in the TV movie becuase he was tired of being typecast as the autoratarian, by-the-book cop.

173 freetoken  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:17:00am

The last Beck thread downstairs is still alive...

I would say "alive and well", but IMO all is not well in Lizardville...

174 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:17:01am

re: #170 Alberta Oil Peon

The Band don't want to.

I always wondered if names like The Band, The Who and Yes didn't cause at least some confusion:

175 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:17:04am

re: #171 gmsc

I own a copy on DVD. It's a classic.

176 Piglet-U93  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:18:37am

This is a test to see if I can post a comment while logged in.
This expected feature has not been working recently.

177 Piglet-U93  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:19:06am

OMG it works again!

178 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:19:37am

re: #172 Fenway_Nation

I thought it was pretty good until they started introducing all the impossibly pretty/pretty-boy detectives.

The episode where Robin Williams guest-starred pretty much spat in the face of some liberal platitudes so prevalent in Hollywood.

/I heard that Yaphet Kotto went out of his way to make sure that he got killed in the TV movie becuase he was tired of being typecast as the autoratarian, by-the-book cop.

That pretty-boy thing was part of the demise and the central premise of both shows. Turned into a soap opera.

179 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:19:41am

re: #176 Piglet-U93

This is a test to see if I can post a comment while logged in.
This expected feature has not been working recently.

re: #177 Piglet-U93

OMG it works again!

Congrats!

180 Piglet-U93  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:21:31am

I wonder if I say: I like Glenn Beck. Will it still work?

181 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:21:52am

re: #174 gmsc

A shameless ripoff of the Abbott and Costello "Who's on First" routine, but funny nevertheless.

182 Piglet-U93  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:22:49am

I like Glenn Beck. He may be kooky but he is my kind of kooky.

183 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:24:07am

CCR - Green River

Great F-14 Tomcat footage on this one.

184 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:24:27am

re: #181 Alberta Oil Peon

A shameless ripoff of the Abbott and Costello "Who's on First" routine, but funny nevertheless.

Of course it is! I like all of the variations.

Ever seen the Ronald Reagan version performed by Johnny Carson?

185 Piglet-U93  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:24:33am

re: #173 freetoken

The last Beck thread downstairs is still alive...

I would say "alive and well", but IMO all is not well in Lizardville...

I wandering over to that thread.

186 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:26:18am

I like New York in June.

187 freetoken  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:30:21am

re: #184 gmsc

Carson had so many great little skits.

188 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:30:23am

CCR was the most underrated group ever.

189 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:31:48am

re: #188 BatGuano

CCR was the most underrated group ever.

Seemed like they were rather popular for a while there. They're were a very reliable band.

190 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:31:56am

This is downright amazing:
All Rockabilly and Rock stars plays together Blue Suede Shoes, a rock and roll Classic:Brian Setzer from Stray Cats,Eddie Van Halen from Van Halen,Steve Miller from Steve Miller's Band,B B King,Les Paul,David Gilmour from Pink Floyd,Stanley Jordan,Jon Hammer,Waylon Jennings plays all together:Blue Suede Shoes.

191 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:32:45am

re: #186 Sharmuta

I like New York in June.

Take the "A" Train!

192 TheMatrix31  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:35:06am

re: #187 freetoken

Carson had so many great little skits.

I was watching the episode of Cheers last night where Cliff writes a joke and submits it to Carson so they head out to LA...great episode!

193 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:35:09am

TV isn't what it used to be. But it is an idiot box. More people should shoot their TVs.

194 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:36:57am

Instead of earth hour, imagine TV Free Week.

195 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:37:56am

re: #187 freetoken

Carson had so many great little skits.

I always like Carnac the Magnificent. So many great lines . . .

Answer: "A first baseman's glove, an outfielder's glove, E.T., Star Wars and Dolly Parton."

Question: "Name 2 big mitts, 2 big hits and . . . er . . . a country singer."

---

Answer: "Dippity Doo."

Question: "What forms on your dippity in the morning?"

---

Answer: "Freshman Sophomore Junior Senior."

Question: "Who was Freshman Sophomore Junior Junior's father?"

196 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:38:39am

re: #194 Sharmuta

Instead of earth hour, imagine TV Free Week.

But I do love my spectator sports...since I can't go to all the games, TV or radio is the next best thing.

197 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:38:54am

re: #194 Sharmuta

Instead of earth hour, imagine TV Free Week.

Practically the only TV I watch is when I'm at some place that has it on. Pretty hard to avoid it completely.

198 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:39:41am

It's April and Obama still has no church and no puppy.

/although he did visit a mosque yesterday

199 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:41:27am

re: #197 Alberta Oil Peon

Practically the only TV I watch is when I'm at some place that has it on. Pretty hard to avoid it completely.

I'm turning more and more to online TV. You can find almost everything, and since it's easier to find the older shows online, you can usually find better entertainment.

Plus, if there are any commercials, they're only 15 to 30 seconds at a time. You can also pause and continue later anytime you want!

200 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:41:31am

must replce keybord guno out!

201 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:43:12am

re: #198 Killian Bundy


Nevermind that! Where's my unicorn, dammit...!? I'm getting hungry!

202 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:43:30am

re: #198 Killian Bundy

It's April and Obama still has no church and no puppy.

/although he did visit a mosque yesterday

Does he even have a full Cabinet yet?

203 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:43:41am

re: #200 BatGuano

must replce keybord guno out!

Nite, Guano!

/World's worst superhero name?

204 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:44:07am

re: #198 Killian Bundy

It's April and Obama still has no church and no puppy.

/although he did visit a mosque yesterday

...no Treasury...

205 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:44:11am

re: #194 Sharmuta

Instead of earth hour, imagine TV Free Week.

For some people it's actually a big part of their life. Rather odd I think. I've been around people like that and they actually get upset when you start to chide the television culture. They glorify the TV stars to the point of obsession. Some people even go as far as trying to emulate their favorite characters.

Ah, the wonders of the modern world. Out with jazz, reading, good music, and replace it with reality television.

206 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:44:54am

re: #204 gmsc

...no Treasury...

Uh oh. Geithner is forgetting to do his taxes again. ///

207 TheMatrix31  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:46:12am

re: #202 Sharmuta

Does he even have a full Cabinet yet?

I'm waiting for himself to fill his brain. Could be waiting a while on that one, though.

208 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:46:46am

My favorite part of the TV culture people. You go to visit them and even though you haven't seen them in a couple of weeks all you get is...

"Shh! Shh! Be quiet! This is my favorite show!"

I've experienced that first hand. Rather pathetic if you ask me.

209 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:47:48am

re: #205 Gus 802

For some people it's actually a big part of their life. Rather odd I think. I've been around people like that and they actually get upset when you start to chide the television culture. They glorify the TV stars to the point of obsession. Some people even go as far as trying to emulate their favorite characters.

Ah, the wonders of the modern world. Out with jazz, reading, good music, and replace it with reality television.

I doubt any such movement would have support. I can dream though.

210 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:48:42am

re: #205 Gus 802


I do watch my share of TV...some say more than my share. However, most of my watching seems to consist of sports (ESPN/NESN/ the NHL & MLB Networks), finance (Bloomberg/CNBC) or the History Channel along with (decreasingly) Cartoon Network...

211 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:48:51am

re: #202 Sharmuta

Does he even have a full Cabinet yet?

/at the very scary Secretary level

212 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:49:05am

Hen lays green eggs

[Link: rpc.blogrolling.com...]

213 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:50:23am

re: #212 Dustyvet

Hen lays green eggs

[Link: rpc.blogrolling.com...]

All I see is the Hot Air front page.

214 freetoken  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:50:26am

re: #209 Sharmuta

Likely most of us here are not TV people... otherwise we wouldn't be here!

I must now force myself to do taxes (yes, I owe...), instead of venting on the Beck-crowd downstairs... If I only had a TV to watch I could escape this dilemma!

215 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:50:45am

re: #209 Sharmuta

I doubt any such movement would have support. I can dream though.

Yeah, one can dream. Or as I like to think: it will only get worse. People will become more obsessed and the shows will get weirder. The reality shows might get rather strange(r) in the near future.

216 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:50:54am

re: #213 gmsc

All I see is the Hot Air front page.

Nuts!

217 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:51:58am

re: #213 gmsc

All I see is the Hot Air front page.

[Link: www.ananova.com...]

218 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:53:06am

re: #210 Fenway_Nation

I do watch my share of TV...some say more than my share. However, most of my watching seems to consist of sports (ESPN/NESN/ the NHL & MLB Networks), finance (Bloomberg/CNBC) or the History Channel along with (decreasingly) Cartoon Network...

Sports TV is different since it's more of a live cultural/sports event. Since it's based on a real event it isn't drowning in a fantasy.

219 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:53:57am

re: #217 Dustyvet

[Link: www.ananova.com...]

Hen Lays Green Eggs?

Trivia: There are only 50 different words used in the book Green Eggs and Ham. How many of them can you name in 10 minutes?

220 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:54:36am

re: #218 Gus 802

Sports TV is different since it's more of a live cultural/sports event. Since it's based on a real event it isn't drowning in a fantasy.

So does COPS, when they not playing up to the camera...:)

221 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:55:36am

Obama highlights his Muslim roots in Turkey speech

Obama, who downplayed his own family ties to Islam during last year’s presidential campaign, found them of greater use in the Turkish capital, telling a gathering of the Grand National Assembly that “the United States has been enriched by Muslim-Americans.

“Many other Americans have Muslims in their family, or have lived in a Muslim-majority country,” Obama said. “I know, because I am one of them.”

Oh, so now he's proud of his Muslim heritage.

/remember back during the campaign when any Republican who pointed out his Muslim ancestry or even dared to utter his middle name was liable to be burned at the stake for political witchcraft?

222 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:55:46am

re: #215 Gus 802

Don't get me wrong- there's interesting stuff on TV. I guess, for me, TV kind of died with Arrested Development. And I don't miss it.

223 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:56:06am

Speaking of:

It's time for another Fenway's Nightly Shiny Stuff Update:

Gold- $887.70 an ounce (up .07%)
Silver- $12.28 an ounce (up .05%)
Platinum- $1148 an ounce (down 1.3%)
Palladium- $223 an ounce (unchanged)

Looks like trading for Rhodium is suspended- plus it wasn't that shiny in the first place, so I'm striking it from the update until the price moves from $1010 an ounce.

224 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:56:56am

re: #223 Fenway_Nation

Looks like trading for Rhodium is suspended- plus it wasn't that shiny in the first place, so I'm striking it from the update until the price moves from $1010 an ounce.

Rhodium? Doesn't he work with Iron Man?

225 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:57:43am

re: #221 Killian Bundy

Obama highlights his Muslim roots in Turkey speech

Oh, so now he's proud of his Muslim heritage.

/remember back during the campaign when any Republican who pointed out his Muslim ancestry or even dared to utter his middle name was liable to be burned at the stake for political witchcraft?

226 BignJames  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:58:43am

re: #221 Killian Bundy


Thanks, I was looking for that.

227 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:00:14am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

228 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:00:47am

re: #222 Sharmuta

Don't get me wrong- there's interesting stuff on TV. I guess, for me, TV kind of died with Arrested Development. And I don't miss it.

I know. I'm not completely anti-TV. I just think it messes things up when it's the only form of entertainment. The reality shows killed if for me as well as the loss of show like "Victory at Sea" and Cosmos which were replaced by entertainment versions on PBS no less. I had my favorites on commercial television: Magnum PI, Rockford Files, and Simon and Simon. They just rarely make those anymore.

229 UncleRancher  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:01:05am

{littleoldlady}:-))
Thanks! You're a sweetheart.

230 Erik The Red  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:01:50am

re: #227 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Running in the front door for fruitcup and out the back...>

Thanks {lol}

231 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:01:55am

re: #226 BignJames

Thanks, I was looking for that.

/I have more

232 BignJames  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:01:55am

re: #227 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help Fend for yourselves!


at my house

233 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:02:28am

Simon & Simon

234 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:02:39am

UncleRancher! :-)

Erik! :-)

BignJames! :-)

235 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:02:53am
236 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:03:07am

re: #227 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Yummy! And with a new avatar!

237 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:03:12am

re: #227 littleoldlady

/Delurk for fruitcup !

Interesting TV debate. How would you fancy being forced by law to pay for the drivel and propaganda , like I do ?

Discuss

238 TheMatrix31  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:03:26am

Good mornin!

239 Erik The Red  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:04:17am

A Rabbi and a Priest were sitting together on a train, and the Rabbi
leans over and asks, "So how high can you advance in your organization?"

The Priest says "If I am lucky, I guess I could become a Bishop."

"Well, could you get any higher than that?" asks the Rabbi.

"I suppose that if my works are seen in a very good light that I might
be made an ArchBishop" said the Priest a bit cautiously.

"Is there any way that you might go higher than that?"

"If all the Saints should smile, I guess I could be made a Cardinal"

"Could you be anything higher than a Cardinal?" probed the Rabbi.

Hesitating a little bit, the Priest said "I supose that I could be
elected Pope, but..."

So the Rabbi says "And could you be anything higher than that?,
is there any way to go up from being the Pope?"

"What! I should be the Messiah himself!?!"

The Rabbi leaned back and said "One of our boys made it."

240 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:04:39am

gmsc! :-)

/I refuse to suffer alone... ;-)

Pass The Moonbaticide! :-)

Matrix! :-)

241 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:04:44am

Thank you, {lol}

242 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:05:21am

Magnum P.I.

243 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:05:32am

Out of interest , LoL , where do you get that TradeMark thingy ?

244 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:05:44am

BRB. Must check stove.

/...probably bad form to burn down the house one week after one has switched insurnace companies.

245 Erik The Red  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:05:57am

Two aliens landed in an outback desert of Queensland near a petrol station
that was closed for the night. They approached one of the pumps and the
younger alien addressed it saying, "Greetings, Earthling! We come in
peace. Take us to your leader."

The petrol pump, of course, didn't respond. The younger alien became angry
at the lack of response and the older alien said, "I'd calm down if I were
you."

The younger alien ignored the warning and repeated his greeting. Again,
there was no response. Annoyed by what he perceived to be the
pump's haughty attitude, he drew his ray gun and said impatiently,
"Greetings, Earthling. We come in peace. Do not ignore us this
way! Take us to your leader or I will fire!"

The older alien warned his comrade saying, "You don't want to do that! I
don't think you should make him mad."

"Rubbish," replied the cocky, young alien. He aimed his weapon at the pump
and opened fire. There was a huge explosion. A massive fireball roared
towards them and blew the younger alien off his feet and deposited him in a
burnt, crumpling mess about 200 yards away in a rabbit burrow.

About a half hour passed. When he finally regained consciousness, he
refocused his three eyes and straightened his bent antenna and looked
dazedly at the older, wiser alien who was standing over him shaking his big,
green head.

"What a ferocious creature!" exclaimed the young, fried alien. "He damn
near killed me! How did you know he was so dangerous?"

The older alien leaned over, placed a friendly feeler on his crispy friend
and replied, "If there's one thing I've learned during my intergalactic
travels, you don't want to mess with a guy who can wrap his penis around
himself twice and then stick it in his ear."

246 freetoken  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:06:57am

re: #227 littleoldlady

Ah... a friendly face, and bearing fruit!

247 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:07:00am

Sharmuta! :-)

248 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:07:08am

re: #230 Erik The Red

Running in the front door for fruitcup and out the back...>

Thanks {lol}

Who was that masked man?...:)

249 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:07:32am

re: #243 Pass The Moonbaticide

I bought it at the html store!

& trade ; (take out the spaces.)

250 TheMatrix31  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:07:57am

I just had two burgers and two orders of fries from In-N-Out...yikes.

251 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:09:29am

And now for Fenway's Overseas Market Update:

Australia's All Ordinaries- down 2.22%

Shanghai Composite- down 3.76%

KOSPI Seoul Composite- down 2.93%

Johannesburg JSE Limited- down 1.04%

Hang Seng- down 3.04%

Mumbai's SENSEX- up 0.38%

New Zealand's NZSE50- down 1.67%

Singapore's Strait Times- down 1.33%

Nikkei- down 2.29%

Taiwan Weighted- down 2.39%

Tel Aviv's TA100 is closed due to the Passover holiday

So basically...not a good start to the trading day.

252 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:09:56am

re: #246 freetoken

freetoken! :-)

254 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:12:03am

re: #250 TheMatrix31

Did you bring enough for everyone, young man?

255 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:12:43am

For littleoldlady:

256 freetoken  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:13:57am

re: #252 littleoldlady

Hey hey...

Didn't we discuss the impending demise of the banana on LGF recently?

257 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:13:58am

re: #251 Fenway_Nation

Clarification- I think the markets worldwide recognize that 0bama's back on his home soil to continue dismantling the largest free-market economy unabated.

258 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:14:13am

re: #251 Fenway_Nation
We occasionally trade these in London, too .

Gordon Brown has made us an irrelevance .

259 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:15:24am

re: #255 Sharmuta

OH! OH! One of my favorite movies and songs! THANKS, SHARMUTA! :-)

260 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:15:37am

re: #256 freetoken

Hey hey...

Didn't we discuss the impending demise of the banana on LGF recently?

It turned purple, I thought.

261 TheMatrix31  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:16:18am

re: #254 Fenway_Nation

Did you bring enough for everyone, young man?

I did, but I ate it all. :-/

262 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:16:23am

Good night (and morning) everyone.

I leave with

For A Few Dollars More
263 gegenkritik  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:16:32am
264 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:16:38am

re: #259 littleoldlady

It's a Holy season. Many blessings to you and yours.

265 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:17:22am

re: #262 Gus 802

Good night (and morning) everyone.

I leave with

[Video]

Sleep well, Gus!

266 freetoken  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:19:33am

re: #260 Sharmuta

It turned purple, I thought.

Cute...

Yes, there are species of bananas that are reddish in color.

But I thought we discussed the demise of the Cavendish Banana here, did we not?

267 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:19:46am

re: #258 Pass The Moonbaticide


I reflexively gravitate towards Asia/Africa/Middle East since they're typically open when I post the updates (as opposed to the European exchanges).

I'm also not going out of my way to exclude exchanges in Muslim countries- it's just the only two I could find are in Jakarta and Kuala Lumpur. It's pretty difficult to get a real-time update for the Istanbul exhange in English, plus I think trading's been suspended on Egypt's CASE30.

268 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:21:34am

re: #264 Sharmuta

And to you and yours, {Sharmuta}! :-)

269 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:22:39am

Hi littleoldlady! start any structure fires lately?

270 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:22:49am

re: #266 freetoken

Cute...

Yes, there are species of bananas that are reddish in color.

But I thought we discussed the demise of the Cavendish Banana here, did we not?

271 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:27:27am

Fenway! :-)

Today might be the day!

272 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:28:59am

re: #271 littleoldlady


No powerball- no unicorn, but a nice, toasty fire...

273 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:30:20am

re: #272 Fenway_Nation

No powerball- no unicorn, but a nice, toasty fire...

Trolls roasting on an open fire...:)

274 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:31:17am

re: #272 Fenway_Nation

YES, PowerBall!

/YES YES YES!

275 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:31:43am

Dustyvet! :-)

/wrong holiday ;-)

276 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:32:13am

re: #275 littleoldlady

Dustyvet! :-)

/wrong holiday ;-)

Whoops...:)

277 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:35:04am

re: #275 littleoldlady

Dustyvet! :-)

/wrong holiday ;-)

Careful – She's getting picky about those holiday songs?

It makes you wonder, What has changed, this night,
from all the other nights?
;)

278 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:35:31am

Just the Muslim countries now!

Kuala Lumpur's KLSE Composite- down 1.3%

Dubai's ADX- down 0.73%

Jakarta's JKSE composite- down 1.68%

Egypt's EGX30*- down 1.52%

*That's why I couldn't get an update from Egypt- the 'rebranded' the CASE30 to the EGX30.

279 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:36:30am

re: #273 Dustyvet

Trolls roasting on an open fire...:)

Does one wash down a John Bircher's roasted, gamey buttocks with birch beer?

280 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:39:07am
281 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:43:28am

OK...looks like the European markets are open for business. Aside from Oslo's OSE All Share and the Madrid General, losses don't look nearly as bad as they did in some parts of Asia.

Then again the day is young over there.

/Haven't bothered to look at the Dow futures here yet, either...

282 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:45:20am

re: #280 littleoldlady

You would kvetch too if it happened to you!

;-)

I like this line from Wikipedia:

Child: "Dad's in a bad mood today."
Mother: "Ma nishtanah?"

What do you get when you cross littleoldlady's favorite songs with Passover songs?

"Cleaning and cooking and so many dishes
Out with the hametz, no pasta, no knishes
Fish that's gefillted, horseradish that stings
These are a few of our passover things."

;)

283 TheMatrix31  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:53:01am

Baskin-Robbins in the predominantly Jewish neighborhood I work in will be very slow over the next few nights, I suppose...

284 gmsc  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:53:09am

Well, I'm still a little sick, and really shouldn't be up at 3 AM (on the other hand, I did sleep much of the day).

I think I'll say good night now.

Good night, all!

285 TheMatrix31  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:54:26am

re: #284 gmsc

Well, I'm still a little sick, and really shouldn't be up at 3 AM (on the other hand, I did sleep much of the day).

I think I'll say good night now.

Good night, all!

Feel better, man!

286 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:56:19am

re: #283 TheMatrix31

They'll ask for their ice cream in a cup vs. a cone. ;-)

287 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:56:29am

Well...I was kinda hoping one of my lengthy odes to EMD's GP49 would be comment #7,000,000, but I can't begudge goddess for winning the lizard lottery.

288 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:56:36am

Take care of yourself, gmsc! :-)

289 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:57:28am

re: #284 gmsc

Feel better soon!

290 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:58:05am

re: #287 Fenway_Nation

Really couldn't have happened to a nicer lady.

291 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 2:58:07am

re: #284 gmsc

Well, I'm still a little sick, and really shouldn't be up at 3 AM (on the other hand, I did sleep much of the day).

I think I'll say good night now.

Good night, all!


Get more gooder real quicking now!

/Y'hear?

292 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:01:52am

re: #291 Fenway_Nation


and with that, I think I managed to massacre every last surviving brain cell on the LNDT.

293 littleoldlady  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:02:47am

As per every year I make Seder, I am NEVER GOING TO FINISH EVERYTHING!

/but I'm going to give it the old college try...

See y'all later. Maybe.

294 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:03:14am

re: #291 Fenway_Nation

Quit making Our Goddesss of Seven Million Comments cringe!

295 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:03:31am

re: #293 littleoldlady

Good luck!

296 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:04:27am

Morning all.

297 rightside  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:04:37am

Morning Lizards.

298 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:06:45am

Good night littleoldlady!

I'm outta here myself, lizards.

weet dreams!

299 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:08:39am

re: #298 Fenway_Nation

Good night FN.

300 TheMatrix31  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:12:22am
301 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:45:21am

Good morning, Lizards!

{Fenway Nation}

302 abolitionist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:46:21am

re: #300 TheMatrix31

What the hell?

Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo with 21 Americans Onboard

Maybe it's payback:
Maersk Alabama Seafarers brighten holidays for kids (1/23)

Since the kids rarely have the opportunity to eat meat, the crew also pitched in so that Odeny and Mbugi could buy two goats for the children’s Christmas dinner.

/speculating

303 TheMatrix31  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:50:58am

Shower time. I wonder if I'm waking people up by showering at 4am.

Oh well, I guess they'd say something if I was.

304 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:58:53am

ACORN gets 5.7 billion and defense is slashed. Fuck this guy. Too bad we are worrying about who bows to oil tycoons.

305 abolitionist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:00:19am

re: #302 abolitionist

/speculating

From my link,
SIU members aboard the Alabama at the time of the goodwill gesture included: Bosun Jose F. Caballero, ABs Goducel P. Pascua, Johney August IV, William J. Schuppman, Sacarias Suazo, Syed A. Mehdi, Nieves Nunez, Maamor Mia, El-Sayed Mohamed, Jordan Polon and Pedro Campos; GU Fadel Ghaleb; QMEDS Seller T. Brooks, Tesfaye Gebregziabher and Alfredo Cuevas; GVAs Salah Saeed Saleh and Husain Salah; SBs Roger G. Griswold and Zein Z. Achmad; and Chief Cooks Alba Luz Ayala and Ali B. Hydera.

I count 21 in that list.

306 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:02:06am

Have a great day, Lizards.

307 Dar ul Harbarian  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:06:56am
308 lifeofthemind  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:09:06am
309 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:13:59am

re: #308 lifeofthemind

More bad news,
Somali Pirates Hijack ship with 21 Americans onboard.

Don't worry Obama will pay them a trillion and everything will be OK./

310 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:16:30am

re: #303 TheMatrix31

Shower time. I wonder if I'm waking people up by showering at 4am.

Oh well, I guess they'd say something if I was.

Is that singing or is someone getting murdered in there. ;D

311 3 wood  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:23:37am

Good morning.

The futures are down slightly as there continues to be some profit taking after the recent run up and there are some jitters awaiting 1st quarter profit numbers.

Now some life insurance companies are getting bail outs:

Treasury to extend bailout funds to life insurers: WSJ

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- The Treasury Department has decided to extend bailout funds to several struggling life insurance companies, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal. The extension of the Troubled Asset Relief Program is expected to be announced in the next several days, the newspaper reported. Keeping life insurers on solid footing is seen as crucial to maintaining confidence, the report said. If large numbers of customers sought to redeem their policies it could force firms to sell of bonds, real estate and other investments, causing another slump in markets it added. Only insurers that own federally chartered banks would qualify for the program, the Journal said. Several insurers, including Hartford Financial Services Group Inc., Genworth Financial Inc. and Lincoln National Corp. agreed to buy savings and loans last year so they could call themselves banks, it added.

In good news:

Family Dollar earnings per share up 33% in quarter
I've always shopped at Family dollar.

312 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:24:26am

re: #308 lifeofthemind

More bad news,
Somali Pirates Hijack ship with 21 Americans onboard.

What a disgrace. It's past time to deploy Marine security teams and naval gunners on these ships when they are about to enter lawless waters. Thomas Jefferson wouldn't have stood for it.

313 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:28:08am

This evening is the first Seder meal when Jews get together with family for a traditional ceremonial meal.
Happy Passover to all Jewish Lizards.

314 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:30:54am

re: #312 Shiplord Kirel

What a disgrace. It's past time to deploy Marine security teams and naval gunners on these ships when they are about to enter lawless waters. Thomas Jefferson wouldn't have stood for it.

Can that be done on ships that are privately owned?

315 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:31:22am

re: #312 Shiplord Kirel

What a disgrace. It's past time to deploy Marine security teams and naval gunners on these ships when they are about to enter lawless waters. Thomas Jefferson wouldn't have stood for it.

Doesn't anyone have the balls to go over there, sink all their boats and kill the fuckers?

316 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:39:06am

re: #314 MandyManners

Can that be done on ships that are privately owned?

Absolutely. It has been done since the beginnings of navigation. Until well into the 19th century, practically all merchant ships were armed for their own protection. During the world wars, fairly heavy guns were routinely mounted on merchant ships and naval armed guard teams went aboard to man them.

For example, check out the story of the SS Stephen Hopkins, a civilian (albeit government owned) merchant ship that sank the German raider Stier in a famous single-handed duel.

317 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:41:47am

re: #316 Shiplord Kirel

Absolutely. It has been done since the beginnings of navigation. Until well into the 19th century, practically all merchant ships were armed for their own protection. During the world wars, fairly heavy guns were routinely mounted on merchant ships and naval armed guard teams went aboard to man them.

For example, check out the story of the SS Stephen Hopkins, a civilian (albeit government owned) merchant ship that sank the German raider Stier in a famous single-handed duel.

Well, let's get going.

Oh, wait. We've a gutless president.

318 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:42:48am

re: #315 Spare O'Lake

Doesn't anyone have the balls to go over there, sink all their boats and kill the fuckers?

From what the story said, the pirates appear to be regular fishermen until they move in for the capture.

319 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:46:08am

Some interesting info at Armed Merchantman in wikipedia:

Despite a rise in modern piracy it is very unusual for modern merchant ships to be armed, save for maybe a number of small arms and the use of the ship's fire hoses to repel boarders. One exception to this are the ships of PNTL [4] used to transport spent nuclear fuel and reprocessed uranium on behalf of BNFL. Transporting enough fissile material between them to produce 50 to 60 nuclear weapons these ships, beginning with the Pacific Pintail and Pacific Teal, became armed in 1999 to avoid the cost of a Royal Navy escort, .[5] Travelling together in convoy during these ships intermittent voyages they have an onboard escort of armed police from the UKAEAC and its successors [6] and are equipped with two to three automatic cannon of 30mm calibre.[7]

320 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:46:33am

re: #314 MandyManners

Nope. Unfortunately, there are many countries that forbid the practice of arming merchant vessels. The U.S. amongst them. Personally, I think a few W.W. I/II type Q-Ships should be deployed to blow these f@*^%$s out of the waters when they attack.

321 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:54:37am

re: #320 Bubblehead II

Nope. Unfortunately, there are many countries that forbid the practice of arming merchant vessels. The U.S. amongst them. Personally, I think a few W.W. I/II type Q-Ships should be deployed to blow these f@*^%$s out of the waters when they attack.

A letter of marque and reprisal is required for owners to arm their ships on their own initiative and with their own weapons. However, nothing forbids the government itself from deploying armed forces, including personnel and weapons, aboard merchant ships.

322 big steve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:56:20am

Does anyone know what Maundy Thursday is? I am not a church goer so I am clueless. One of my staff said they needed tomorrow evening off for it.

323 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:57:43am

An analogy: It is regrettably against the law to arm your SUV with machine guns and grenade launchers, but nothing keeps you from carrying soldiers armed with these weapons if they are acting in an official capacity.

324 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 4:59:27am

Whatever happened to that shipment that made those pirates get sick and die?

325 Mithrax  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:02:32am

re: #322 big steve

Does anyone know what Maundy Thursday is? I am not a church goer so I am clueless. One of my staff said they needed tomorrow evening off for it.

Religious Holy Day for most Christian Denominations in which they celebrate in the institution of the Lord's Supper (Holy Communion/Holy Eucharist/Mass), Christ's betrayal, and trial.

Maundy Thursday

326 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:04:36am

Since this ship sometimes ships for the DoD, I wonder if it was targeted or, maybe not as is the case of the blind squirrel.

327 eon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:04:40am

re: #318 MandyManners

From what the story said, the pirates appear to be regular fishermen until they move in for the capture.

Good morning, Lizards.

The answer is to be found in a very old principle of maritime law, called "stop and search." Simply put, naval vessels on the high seas in time of "hostilities" (note; not necessarily a "time of declared war") have the right to stop and inspect neutral "bottoms" for war materials, i.e., weapons, and to confiscate same before releasing the vessel to go on its way.

When dealing with piracy, the principle has always been that such a vessel, and its crew, if found to be in flagrante delicto may be "held", i.e. arrested on the spot and the vessel impounded. Back in the 17th through 19th centuries, such "impounded" vessels were often then inducted into naval service and used to pursue pirates. An armed sloop was the most common "pirate ship", Hollywood notwithstanding; a Second Rate (75-gun three-master) might outgun it, but it could often escape due to being better able to use "light airs" and slip through shallows the larger vessel couldn't. Today, of course, this wouldn't be as practical (there are ways, but I'd rather not go into them for OPSEC reasons), but holding the vessel, trying and imprisoning its crew, and finally destroying the vessel (to prevent it being "bought at auction" and returned to "sailing on the account" by some other would-be Bartholomew Roberts) would certainly be entirely within the law.

This would, of course, require an aggressive anti-piracy effort. Historically, pirates have always prospered in areas of low naval force activity- until they became enough of an annoyance that a major naval power decided to make a project of eradicating them.

I'd say, it's time to do it off Somalia. In international waters, the right of naval forces to pursue pirates has never been questioned.

They want to hoist the Jolie Rouge? Fine. We can cut it off the jackstaff again.

cheers

eon

328 opnion  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:04:55am

Greetings & salutations Lizards.

329 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:07:19am
330 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:07:22am

re: #327 eon

Somehow I doubt FCBBHO will do a darn thing.

331 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:10:27am

Good Morning Lizards!

CONN-CLUSIVE

University of Connecticut Woman's Basketball team won their 6th National Title last night! Are they most dominating woman's team ever? You decide.

Record: 39-0
Number of double digit wins: 39 (That would be every game)
Average margin of victory during regular season: 30.5 points
Average margin of victory during the NCAA Tournament: 25 points
Average margin of victory against top 25 teams: 27 points

"Somebody was saying they ought to have two tournaments this year," said ESPN analyst Doris Burke. "One for UConn and one for everyone else. It's true."

332 eon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:10:41am

re: #330 MandyManners

Somehow I doubt FCBBHO will do a darn thing.

I agree, regrettably. For all we know, he may regard this as a "legitimate redress of economic inequality", to use a phrase I often heard in court from defense attorneys and the occasional "progressive" judge to justify not throwing the book at muggers thirty-odd years ago.

Just out of curiosity, exactly what does "FCBBHO" mean in relation to The Exalted One, anyway?

cheers

eon

333 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:11:56am
334 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:14:42am

re: #332 eon

I agree, regrettably. For all we know, he may regard this as a "legitimate redress of economic inequality", to use a phrase I often heard in court from defense attorneys and the occasional "progressive" judge to justify not throwing the book at muggers thirty-odd years ago.

Just out of curiosity, exactly what does "FCBBHO" mean in relation to The Exalted One, anyway?

cheers

eon

FuckingCommieBastardBarakHusseinBastard.

335 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:15:34am

re: #334 MandyManners

FuckingCommieBastardBarakHusseinBastard.

Oops!

FCBBHObama.

336 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:16:00am
337 eon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:17:33am

re: #335 MandyManners

Oops!

FCBBHObama.

Thanks. That actually makes a twisted sort of sense.

/In the sense that The One is, IMHO, fundamentally twisted.

cheers

eon

338 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:18:32am

John Podhoretz and Judity Miller are on Fox's pundit pit.

339 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:19:30am

re: #335 MandyManners

Oops!

FCBBHObama.

I almost think I prefer the more redundant version.

340 opnion  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:19:48am

re: #337 eon

Thanks. That actually makes a twisted sort of sense.

/In the sense that The One is, IMHO, fundamentally twisted.

cheers

eon

The Dear Leader got nothing done on his trip , but got adulation.
Mission accomplished!

341 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:20:05am

Gotta' go. bbl

342 eon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:24:40am

re: #340 opnion

The Dear Leader got nothing done on his trip , but got adulation.
Mission accomplished!

Exactly. His ego(tism) requires constant reinforcement by public fawning to an even greater degree than Clinton did. And he was the worst example of an insecure, childish twit we've ever had in the Oval Office- until now.

The resemblance between the two is so marked, that I am forced to conclude that this is typical of the Democratic Party's "ideal" of what a True Great Leader should be.

/ Norman Mailer crossed with Pee Wee Herman in a Moss Bros. suit.

cheers

eon

343 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:27:10am

Looks like the moral equivalency whores are gearing up to legitimize Iran's acquistion of nuclear weapons:

Calling on Obama to join A-bomb memorial ceremonies at Hiroshima, Nagasaki

Chavez urges US apology to Japan

In response, I offer this history article from 2003:

George Bush's comrades eaten by their Japanese PoW guards

The former President George Bush narrowly escaped being beheaded and eaten by Japanese soldiers when he was shot down over the Pacific in the Second World War, a shocking new history published in America has revealed.

The book, Flyboys, is the result of historical detective work by James Bradley, whose father was among the marines later photographed raising the flag over the island of Iwo Jima.

Lt George Bush, then a 20-year-old pilot, was among nine airmen who escaped from their planes after being shot down during bombing raids on Chichi Jima, a tiny island 700 miles south of Tokyo, in September 1944 - and was the only one to evade capture by the Japanese.

The horrific fate of the other eight "flyboys" was established in subsequent war crimes trials on the island of Guam, but details were sealed in top secret files in Washington to spare their families distress.

Mr Bradley has established that they were tortured, beaten and then executed, either by beheading with swords or by multiple stab-wounds from bayonets and sharpened bamboo stakes. Four were then butchered by the island garrison's surgeons and their livers and meat from their thighs eaten by senior Japanese officers.

The future president escaped a similar fate because he ditched his plane further from the island than the other crews, and managed to scramble on to a liferaft. American planes launched a hail of fire at Japanese boats which set out to capture him, driving them back, and he was eventually rescued by a US submarine.

344 rightside  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:27:29am

re: #336 taxfreekiller

I just contacted the party near me to tell them I will be there with a co-worker. Richmond is having one which is closer, but it's in the evening. I'm going to one an hour further, but during 11am - 1pm.

345 opnion  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:28:46am

re: #342 eon

Exactly. His ego(tism) requires constant reinforcement by public fawning to an even greater degree than Clinton did. And he was the worst example of an insecure, childish twit we've ever had in the Oval Office- until now.

The resemblance between the two is so marked, that I am forced to conclude that this is typical of the Democratic Party's "ideal" of what a True Great Leader should be.

/ Norman Mailer crossed with Pee Wee Herman in a Moss Bros. suit.

cheers

eon


Well said.

346 Mithrax  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:34:48am

Hmmm...'tis awfully quiet on the ole LGF homestead this mornin.

347 rightside  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:35:11am

I know you're gone but, {goddess}

348 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:35:32am

*chirp...chirp...chirp...chirp

349 summergurl  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:37:16am

Morning Lizards---
It's a cold day in Dixie.

350 opnion  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:38:19am

Raise your hand if your not here.

351 rightside  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:39:12am

re: #349 summergurl

Morning.

352 Mithrax  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:41:31am

re: #350 opnion

Raise your hand if your not here.

*raises left hand*

353 eon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:41:34am

Well, I hate to post and run, but run I must.

Have a great day, Lizards.

cheers

eon

354 freetoken  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:42:22am

re: #343 Shiplord Kirel


Calling on Obama to join A-bomb memorial ceremonies at Hiroshima, Nagasaki

I put that in the spin-offs because it is an editorial of the Mainichi Daily News, which is I believe the 2nd (or possibly third) largest newspaper in Japan. And, one which has taken on increasingly more conservative (Japanese version) positions. Just not what you would call conservative, but still mainline Japanese thinking.

355 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:42:50am

Let's hear it for comment 6,999,999

just two seconds too early.

patience is a virtue

Gella
4/07/2009 2:28:55 pm PDT

are we there yet?

356 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:50:51am

Joe Biden throws like a girl.

357 Irish Rose  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:53:29am

Good morning, lizards.

I'm up
Nothing more than that until the coffee is done.

358 Erik The Red  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:55:00am

re: #356 SasquatchOnSteroids

Joe Biden throws like a girl.

What a great off the wall, throw away comment :)

359 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:55:47am

Morning all.
Don't know if this story is brand new, first I've heard of it.

More pirates, this time with Americans held

360 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:56:37am

re: #356 SasquatchOnSteroids

Joe Biden throws like a girl.

The Boston Red Sox had a great opening day win yesterday. the only thing marring the day was that Ted Kennedy threw out the first pitch...twice. Also Caroline and some other family members stayed and watched the game from a box. There was some young boy, maybe 10 or so, that looked like the prototypical spoiled rich kid. I will say this, for someone that has been through what Teddy has been through medically lately, he looked good. Politics aside I wish him well.

On another note, I noticed that in the postgame press conference Terry Francona, Boston's manager, was wearing a shirt that USMC on it. Always liked Terry.

361 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:57:01am

re: #356 SasquatchOnSteroids

Joe Biden throws like a girl Detroit Tiger bullpen pitcher.

362 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:57:43am

re: #360 Ford_Prefect

The Boston Red Sox had a great opening day win yesterday. the only thing marring the day was that Ted Kennedy threw out the first pitch...twice. Also Caroline and some other family members stayed and watched the game from a box. There was some young boy, maybe 10 or so, that looked like the prototypical spoiled rich kid. I will say this, for someone that has been through what Teddy has been through medically lately, he looked good. Politics aside I wish him well.

On another note, I noticed that in the postgame press conference Terry Francona, Boston's manager, was wearing a shirt that USMC on it. Always liked Terry.


Did Teddy throw a submarine ball ?

363 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:58:04am

re: #362 Shug

No. A sinker.

364 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:58:24am

re: #361 Shug

Joe Biden throws like a girl Detroit Tiger bullpen pitcher.

LOL. He might actually be an improvement.

365 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:58:44am

Good morning everyone! some of you will remember my post yesterday morning about a state legislator trying to slip in drivers licenses for illegals yesterday. He tried to put it in at the last minute, as the vote was last night. It caused such an uproar, the amendment was dropped at 11:55pm last night, the vote was taken on the whole bill passes at 12:10am. Close call, and good on Massachusetts citizens who stepped up en masse to stop this madness dead. God only knows what else passed, though, as a copy of the bill was not available anywhere.
[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]

366 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:59:50am

anybody ever see the youtube video of the guy throwing the piece of Pizza at fenway ?

367 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:00:54am

re: #362 Shug

Did Teddy throw a submarine ball ?

He clearly does not have full function of his body due to his illness. Jim Rice caught the ball and stood just 10 or 15 feet away and the ball still hit the ground. He threw another from about 5 feet away that Rice caught. He seemed to be in good spirits and enjoyed the adulation from the crowd.

368 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:01:21am

re: #359 Lincolntf

Morning all.
Don't know if this story is brand new, first I've heard of it.

More pirates, this time with Americans held

It's a developing situation, but one that we've reported on previously. In fact, just a couple of days ago, another ship was captured. Over the past weekend, 3 more ships were attacked.

The world shrugs. The UN does nothing, and the various navies are more concerned about the rights of the pirates than they are in protecting the Law of the Seas, which demands that navies put down pirates and protect shipping as in the common interest. We've steadfastly avoided going after the safe havens where the pirates operate from, and have instead settled into a catch and release program - pirates catch ships and release the crew after receiving significant ransoms.

369 Irish Rose  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:01:25am

re: #365 CapeCoddah

Can there be anything more despicable than politicians who try to ram through unpopular legislation in the middle of the night?

370 jantjepietje  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:01:26am

Just stumbled on this via digg

Republican Caller Tells Limbaugh: "You're A Brainwashed Nazi"

just skipthe article and scroll down for the audio

371 yochanan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:01:35am

whirled peas

YEAH!

372 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:01:52am

re: #365 CapeCoddah

Good to hear it. Way to help in getting the word out.

373 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:03:30am

re: #369 Irish Rose

Can there be anything more despicable than politicians who try to ram through unpopular legislation in the middle of the night?

No, unless it is politicians in general.

374 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:05:14am

re: #365 CapeCoddah

Morning Coddah.
This story makes me wonder if people outside of MA have any idea what the politics are like up there. I'm remembering the last-minute switcheroo on the death penalty, the ignoring of the mandated tax-rollback, all of the blant purchases of votes leading to successive corrupt Sen. Presidents., the judicial fiat of Margaret Marshall, ...I could go on forever.
Everything happens out of sight and on the fringes of the Constitution. Absolutely nothing (even if technically legal) goes on up there that isn't shady as hell.

375 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:08:05am
Anne Wortham is Associate Professor of Sociology at Illinois State
University and continuing Visiting Scholar at Stanford University's
Hoover Institution. She is a member of the American Sociological
Association and the American Philosophical Association. She has been a John M. Olin Foundation Faculty Fellow, and honored as a Distinguished Alumni of the Year by the National Association for Equal Opportunity in Higher Education. In fall 1988 she was one of a select group of intellectuals who were featured in Bill Moyer's television series, "A World of Ideas." The transcript of her conversation with Moyers has been published in his book, A World of Ideas. Dr. Wortham is author of The Other Side of Racism: A Philosophical Study of Black Race Consciousness which analyzes how race consciousness is transformed into political strategies and policy issues.
She has published numerous articles on the implications of individual rights
for civil rights policy, and is currently writing a book on theories of
social and cultural marginality. Recently, she has published articles on
the significance of multiculturalism and Afrocentricism in education, the
politics of victimization and the social and political impact of political
correctness. Shortly after an interview in 2004 she was awarded tenure.

This article by her is something else.
376 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:09:10am
377 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:09:39am

re: #368 lawhawk

Are these pirates or privateers? Does someone in Somalia get a cut of the stolen goods?

378 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:10:14am

No He Can't
by Anne Wortham

Fellow Americans,

Please know: I am black; I grew up in the segregated South. I did not vote
for Barack Obama; I wrote in Ron Paul's name as my choice for president.
Most importantly, I am not race conscious. I do not require a black
president to know that I am a person of worth, and that life is worth
living. I do not require a black president to love the ideal of America .

I cannot join you in your celebration. I feel no elation. There is no
smile on my face. I am not jumping with joy. There are no tears of triumph
in my eyes. For such emotions and behavior to come from me, I would have to
deny all that I know about the requirements of human flourishing and
survival - all that I know about the history of the United States of
America , all that I know about American race relations, and all that I know
about Barack Obama as a politician. I would have to deny the nature of the
"change" that Obama asserts has come to America . Most importantly, I
would have to abnegate my certain understanding that you have chosen to
sprint down the road to serfdom that we have been on for over a century. I
would have to pretend that individual liberty has no value for the success
of a human life. I would have to evade your rejection of the slender reed
of capitalism on which your success and mine depend. I would have to think
it somehow rational that 94 percent of the 12 million blacks in this country
voted for a man because he looks like them (that blacks are permitted to
play the race card), and that they were joined by self-declared
"progressive" whites who voted for him because he doesn't look like them. I
would have to wipe my mind clean of all that I know about the kind of people
who have advised and taught Barack Obama and will fill posts in his
administration - political intellectuals like my former colleagues at the
Harvard University 's Kennedy School of Government.
...

379 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:12:12am
I would have to believe that "fairness" is the equivalent of justice. I would have to believe that man who asks me to "go forward in a new spirit of service, in a new service of sacrifice" is speaking in my interest. I would have to accept the premise of a man that economic prosperity comes from the "bottom up," and who arrogantly believes that he can will it into existence by the use of government force. I would have to admire a man who thinks the standard of living of the masses can be improved by destroying the most productive and the generators of wealth.

Finally, Americans, I would have to erase from my consciousness the scene of 125,000 screaming, crying, cheering people in Grant Park, Chicago
irrationally chanting "Yes We Can!" Finally, I would have to wipe all
memory of all the times I have heard politicians, pundits, journalists,
editorialists, bloggers and intellectuals declare that capitalism is dead -
and no one, including especially Alan Greenspan, objected to their
assumption that the particular version of the anti-capitalistic mentality
that they want to replace with their own version of anti-capitalism is
anything remotely equivalent to capitalism.

So you have made history, Americans. You and your children have elected a
black man to the office of the president of the United States , the wounded
giant of the world. The battle between John Wayne and Jane Fonda is over - and that Fonda won. Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern must be very happy men. Jimmie Carter, too. And the Kennedys have at last gotten their Kennedy look-a-like. The self-righteous welfare statists in the suburbs can feel warm moments of satisfaction for having elected a black person. So, toast yourselves: 60s countercultural radicals, 80s yuppies and 90s bourgeois bohemians. Toast yourselves, Black America. Shout your glee Harvard, Princeton , Yale, Duke, Stanford, and Berkeley. You have elected not an individual who is qualified to be president, but a black man who, like the pragmatist Franklin Roosevelt, promises to - Do Something! You now have someone who has picked up the baton of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. But you have also foolishly traded your freedom and mine - what little thereis left - for the chance to feel good.

There is nothing in me that can share your happy obliviousness.

380 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:12:31am

re: #374 Lincolntf

Morning Coddah.
This story makes me wonder if people outside of MA have any idea what the politics are like up there. I'm remembering the last-minute switcheroo on the death penalty, the ignoring of the mandated tax-rollback, all of the blant purchases of votes leading to successive corrupt Sen. Presidents., the judicial fiat of Margaret Marshall, ...I could go on forever.
Everything happens out of sight and on the fringes of the Constitution. Absolutely nothing (even if technically legal) goes on up there that isn't shady as hell.

I know, Linc, it is so demoralizing, you feel like giving up. But we can't. Bright side?... Dianne Wilkerson was hit with 23 new federal corruption charges yesterday. For the lizards who do not remember her, she was the Mass. Senator caught stuffing a cash bribe into her bra on camera in a Boston resturant. Classy, huh?

381 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:13:08am
The health of a nation is inversely proportional to the number of laws needed to govern it.

— Thomas Frey

Which means our country is basically on life support.

382 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:13:36am

re: #369 Irish Rose

Can there be anything more despicable than politicians who try to ram through unpopular legislation in the middle of the night?

Politicians who ram through unpopular legislation in the middle of the night without reading it, then getting pissed off when the legislation they wrote gives bonuses out to companies that received bailout bucks, therefore requiring them to whip up activist groups they fund to extort the bonuses they legally agreed to pay from the people who legally earned them.

And I hate that they make me defend AIG.

383 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:14:22am

re: #357 Irish Rose

Did you see the new post at the Cookbook Site?

Folks- reine needs your help for the cookbook!

384 Sceptic Tank  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:15:41am

In America everything is a crime until you pay the tax.

385 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:16:19am

re: #378 J.D.

Now why would you be posting an article from that site? I'm trying to keep an open mind here.

/j.d.!

386 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:16:27am

re: #24 Sharmuta

I am eating a Canadian bacon and pineapple pizza. With green onions.


And I am jealous. Canadian bacon - the best with pineapple on pizza. Hold the onions.
Ok - just give me a piece onions and all.

387 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:18:16am

re: #383 Sharmuta

Did you see the new post at the Cookbook Site?

Folks- reine needs your help for the cookbook!

I have been meaning to do that... I finally have a day off, hubby is at work, no kids, dogs outside chasing imaginary squirrels... now is the perfect time. I will work up a few things for her now!

388 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:18:23am

re: #385 Ward Cleaver

Now why would you be posting an article from that site? I'm trying to keep an open mind here.

/j.d.!

I just liked the article, and it happens to be on a lot of websites. I received it as an e-mail. This was just the first site where it showed up when I googled for it.

389 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:18:38am

WARD!

390 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:19:02am

re: #370 jantjepietje

Just stumbled on this via digg

Republican Caller Tells Limbaugh: "You're A Brainwashed Nazi"

just skipthe article and scroll down for the audio

WTH?

391 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:20:02am

re: #388 J.D.

I just liked the article, and it happens to be on a lot of websites. I received it as an e-mail. This was just the first site where it showed up when I googled for it.

Okay, no problem. I pretty much agree with her take, it's just the source that gives me the creeps.

J.D.!

392 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:20:14am

re: #387 CapeCoddah

I have been meaning to do that... I finally have a day off, hubby is at work, no kids, dogs outside chasing imaginary squirrels... now is the perfect time. I will work up a few things for her now!

Great!

393 Rednek  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:20:38am

Electricity Grid in U.S. Penetrated By Spies


WASHINGTON -- Cyberspies have penetrated the U.S. electrical grid and left behind software programs that could be used to disrupt the system, according to current and former national-security officials.

The spies came from China, Russia and other countries, these officials said, and were believed to be on a mission to navigate the U.S. electrical system and its controls. The intruders haven't sought to damage the power grid or other key infrastructure, but officials warned they could try during a crisis or war.

"The Chinese have attempted to map our infrastructure, such as the electrical grid," said a senior intelligence official. "So have the Russians."

394 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:22:29am

re: #383 Sharmuta

Did you see the new post at the Cookbook Site?

Folks- reine needs your help for the cookbook!

I will ask the cook for goat receipes and send them - kidding - pun not intended but I will leave in.

395 badger1970  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:23:55am

re: #380 CapeCoddah

Only the stupid criminals get caught...the rest get to be called Senator.

396 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:25:14am

re: #377 Mr. In get Mr. Out

Are these pirates or privateers? Does someone in Somalia get a cut of the stolen goods?

Various reports suggest that there are ties between the pirates and al Qaeda, while others note that there is an entire economy built up around supporting the pirates and their activities. In either case, dealing with the homeports in Somalia is the only real way to put a dent in the piracy, but the world doesn't seem interested in doing that since it would require military force, and that's something to be shunned. Instead, they'll continue treating this as a nuisance (a growing and expensive one) and confront the pirates only on the high seas where chance encounters with various navies may stop some.

397 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:26:33am

Morning all. Haven't been keeping up lately. What have I missed?

398 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:27:57am

Good morning y'all - from a COLD (34 degrees, goiing up to 58 degrees) sunshine and Carolina Blue skied Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

399 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:29:43am

re: #397 BlueCanuck

Hi, Blue. Hope the new job is going well.

400 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:30:07am

re: #398 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a COLD (34 degrees, goiing up to 58 degrees) sunshine and Carolina Blue skied Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?


I am doing OK, it has been raining here in Kabul for most of a week now, and so gotten cold (or a least cooled off) and I thought sping was on the way - Sigh.

401 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:30:38am

So this is what our tax dollars are going to develop.

GM, Segway to Make Vehicle

General Motors Corp. is teaming with Segway Inc., maker of the upright, self-balancing scooters, to build a new type of two-wheeled vehicle designed to move easily through congested urban streets.

The machine, which GM says it aims to develop by 2012, would run on batteries and use wireless technology to avoid traffic backups and navigate cities.

I think this my favorite part, though. Maybe a slap at Obama?

But it will take to the streets of Manhattan on Tuesday to show off a prototype of the vehicle, called PUMA, for Personal Urban Mobility and Accessibility.

(Emphasis added by FP)

There is a video of it on the page. The thing actually looks kind of cool, but rather impractical, especially for anyone living outside of a major city.

402 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:30:42am

Morning all. It's pretty chilly in Jersey this morning too. Snow flurries up north.

403 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:31:21am

So, are we going to clean out the Somali pirates now that they have attacked a ship under the US flag?

404 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:31:57am

re: #394 LindaMarie

Actually- I think a traditional Afghan recipe would be interesting, so long as it's not too weird.

405 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:32:11am

re: #398 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a COLD (34 degrees, goiing up to 58 degrees) sunshine and Carolina Blue skied Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Morning Real. I am doing well. Today it is my turn to celebrate a National Championship.

406 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:32:14am

re: #401 Ford_Prefect

So this is what our tax dollars are going to develop.

GM, Segway to Make Vehicle


(Emphasis added by FP)

There is a video of it on the page. The thing actually looks kind of cool, but rather impractical, especially for anyone living outside of a major city.

I want to see a snow and rain test, plus the crash videos.

I.e., it looks like a fine way to get killed.

407 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:32:28am

Well this is a true oldie but goodie - "Season of the Witch" - Steve Stills on a non-stop wah-wah pedal with Al Kooper on bass and some horns - y'all can ignore the lyrics and singing if you want to - I'm astounded that Stills could play such a fabulous 11 minute wah-wah peddle! Just open in another tab and listen while you're playing out here!
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

408 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:32:40am

re: #396 lawhawk

Various reports suggest that there are ties between the pirates and al Qaeda, while others note that there is an entire economy built up around supporting the pirates and their activities. In either case, dealing with the homeports in Somalia is the only real way to put a dent in the piracy, but the world doesn't seem interested in doing that since it would require military force, and that's something to be shunned. Instead, they'll continue treating this as a nuisance (a growing and expensive one) and confront the pirates only on the high seas where chance encounters with various navies may stop some.

The world never does anything to stop a problem before it gets out of control. It'd may be difficult to do, but, if the countries shipping threatened to mine the ports, then something may be done. However, I suppose before anything is done, a ship is going to be blown up.

409 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:33:06am

re: #404 Sharmuta

Actually- I think a traditional Afghan recipe would be interesting, so long as it's not too weird.

Get something with chicken. We need a "Gaza honco rooster around the world" section.

410 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:33:07am

re: #399 Sharmuta

Well, finally got trained on the site on Monday. Start today finally. It's going to be good I think. Small site, only me there to worry about, and I can access LGF by internet. :)

411 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:33:57am

re: #401 Ford_Prefect

Looks kinda cool. Like... Tronesque.

412 So?  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:34:01am

The health of a nation is inversely proportional to the number of Hooters restaurants in each city. Or is that directly proportional rather? Yes. Directly proportional.

413 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:34:02am

re: #400 LindaMarie
Hi LindaMarie - uh, cooled off to about what temperature range are you talking about?!
And I'm glad to see you out here and will be even happier when I see you posting out here from a Stateside location!

414 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:34:19am

re: #397 BlueCanuck

Morning all. Haven't been keeping up lately. What have I missed?

Good morning Blue. Did you see that goddessoftheclassroom got the 7,000,000 post yesterday?

415 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:34:37am

re: #403 OldLineTexan

So, are we going to clean out the Somali pirates now that they have attacked a ship under the US flag?

One would hope, but I am sure this admin won't do a thing.

416 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:34:38am

re: #410 BlueCanuck

Sounds perfect. We miss you overnight.

417 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:34:59am

re: #414 Ford_Prefect

Good morning Blue. Did you see that goddessoftheclassroom got the 7,000,000 post yesterday?

BTW, everyone should consider dinging it up.

418 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:35:02am

re: #403 OldLineTexan

So, are we going to clean out the Somali pirates now that they have attacked a ship under the US flag?

No, let's just try to come up with reasons why that's all our fault and bend over backward making nice with them.

419 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:35:20am

re: #414 Ford_Prefect

Good morning Blue. Did you see that goddessoftheclassroom got the 7,000,000 post yesterday?

Couldn't have happened to a nicer Lizard.

420 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:35:55am

re: #407 realwest

Well this is a true oldie but goodie - "Season of the Witch" - Steve Stills on a non-stop wah-wah pedal with Al Kooper on bass and some horns - y'all can ignore the lyrics and singing if you want to - I'm astounded that Stills could play such a fabulous 11 minute wah-wah peddle! Just open in another tab and listen while you're playing out here!
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

and Stills was brought in to replace Mike Bloomfield who went off in a huff...advantage: Stlls puts out a masterpiece of playing

421 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:35:55am

Morning all. We have a LMPD(Louisville) female officer who has been shot this morning. No word on her condition. They shut down interstate off ramps and downtown streets to rush her to the hospital. She's in surgery now. Three others shot including the suspect. Prayers for the officer.

422 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:36:02am

re: #418 J.D.

No, let's just try to come up with reasons why that's all our fault and bend over backward making nice with them.

Maybe we should buy them a midnight basketball league?

423 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:36:25am

re: #402 VioletTiger

Morning all. It's pretty chilly in Jersey this morning too. Snow flurries up north.

I use to live up north" in Jersey, Lake Hopatcong, near Dover. We had more snow there in the winter then we get almost any year in the Denver area.

424 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:36:35am

re: #417 OldLineTexan

BTW, everyone should consider dinging it up.

Already did.re: #419 Sharmuta

Couldn't have happened to a nicer Lizard.

Very true, unless it was you of course.

425 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:36:36am

re: #393 Rednek

This is worrisome. I think our infrastructure, especially electric and water, is very vulnerable. I don't think we are doing enough to protect it.

426 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:36:47am

re: #404 Sharmuta

They make a great rice dish with raisins and shredded carrots. Great if they leave out the goat meat with the bones in it.
It is called Kabilsh (sp?) and I will get the cook to write it out for me and send it.

427 So?  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:36:50am

re: #406 OldLineTexan

I want to see a snow and rain test, plus the crash videos.

I.e., it looks like a fine way to get killed.

I think this is great for all major cities. The downtown cores should be shut down to cars. And these things should be made available on a rental basis. No need to buy them, just pick one up as needed.

428 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:37:26am

re: #401 Ford_Prefect

I got burned looking forward to the "It" that turned out to be the Segway. Kamen, the inventor, is a cool but kind of wacky guy, as I'm sure you know. I recently read an article about his private island, a small spit of land that he is endeavoring (maybe already succeeded) to make entirely technologically controlled/enviro. friendly, etc.
Anyway, that thing looks handy for meter maids or mall cops, but I'm not taking it out on the road.

429 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:37:31am

'Morning, y'all.

I see over at Gateway Pundit's joint that the city of Detroit has 30,000 more registered voters than they have residents over the age of 18.

Funny how that works. I wonder why it is that these places never seem to have more taxpayers than residents.

Must be easier to get the dead to vote than pay taxes.

430 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:37:31am

re: #424 Ford_Prefect

No- pretty sure I'm just partly nice. ;)

431 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:37:49am

re: #426 LindaMarie

They make a great rice dish with raisins and shredded carrots. Great if they leave out the goat meat with the bones in it.
It is called Kabilsh (sp?) and I will get the cook to write it out for me and send it.

Cool!

432 So?  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:37:53am

re: #415 VioletTiger

One would hope, but I am sure this admin won't do a thing.

Maybe loud rap music will do the job. If not that some hip-hop.

433 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:37:59am

re: #414 Ford_Prefect

Yeah, I saw the headline yesterday. Good person definitely to get that mark.

434 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:38:05am

re: #427 So?

I think this is great for all major cities. The downtown cores should be shut down to cars. And these things should be made available on a rental basis. No need to buy them, just pick one up as needed.

So we will just leave the delivery and garbage trucks, and these things. No taxis, either?

Pass.

435 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:38:10am

re: #423 Walter L. Newton

I use to live up north" in Jersey, Lake Hopatcong, near Dover. We had more snow there in the winter then we get almost any year in the Denver area.

There are some nice areas up there, especially right near the lake. Lots of old victorian homes. They get a lot more snow than we do in the southern reaches.

436 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:38:29am

re: #409 OldLineTexan
Can do, but the chicken has to be old and tough to do the recipe justice.

437 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:38:44am

Morning {realwest}.
That's pretty cool for this time of year!
It snowed up in KY yesterday, I'm told.
Here, it's (for us) a chilly 61°, going up to 73°.
How are you doing?

438 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:03am

re: #436 LindaMarie

Can do, but the chicken has to be old and tough to do the recipe justice.

That's our Gazan honco rooster!

/

439 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:31am

re: #438 OldLineTexan

That's our Gazan honco rooster!

/

He's delicious.

440 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:31am

Rolling the Dice with With Millions of Lives

A gambler sits down at the table. He has his stake. He thinks he knows the game, he thinks he knows the odds and, based on his level of experience, knows how likely he is to succeed.

Recently, President Obama, while he was wowing the people of Europe with how wonderful he is, took a few moments to inform GM's Rick Waggoner his services were no longer required. Some have discussed the legality of this action, some its implications to other US businesses and the bailout mess but no one seems to have considered the implications of the decision itself- Barrack Obama, who has never run anything larger than a Presidential campaign and who, as near as I can tell, has never successfully sold any commercial product, has substituted his judgment as to how best to run GM.

I am not a big fan of experts who claim to know all and this dislike of escalates exponentially the lower the ratio is between the more certainty of the person judging in proportion to their actual experience on the subject at hand.

The key point of contention between Obama and Waggoner was over the issue of bankruptcy. Waggoner believed that GM can not successfully go into bankruptcy and survive. Mr. Obama believes otherwise.

Obama knows how to get elected, he is a fluent liar, has a flair for friendships with individuals of the most despicable ideas and character and has never demonstrated a single act of honor or greatness on his path to power. By contrast, Waggoner worked his way up to the top of GM; he was once the whiz-kid who could do no wrong. In fact, he did nothing wrong, he sold America the cars America wanted, transformed GM's product line and positioned the company to lead the world in electric vehicles. If he got caught flatfooted by the downturn, how many people predicted the US economy would bleed out like an Ebola patient in 2008 or the mortgage mess would demolish the US financial system (something Waggoner had nothing to do with)? He was steering the company to a new energy future and doing everything he could to reposition a giant unwieldy mega-corporation, weighed down by tough competition, high taxes, parasitical unions and dealer networks.

Mr. Obama recently opined about how long it takes to turn the ship of state, he is about to find out what happens steering giant companies.

Waggoner may not have been the best executive GM ever had but he was working for a dollar a year and that is something our beloved Golden Child, despite being a very rich man himself, would never consider doing. You would think that a man who can get a $10 million or even $20 million advance on his memoirs (right now!) does not need his Presidential salary. Given the US budget crisis, one might even call that leadership. Barack will cash every check and take every vacation day he can. It is who he is.

Back to our table game. GM is the largest industrial company in the world and it directly and indirectly employs 1 million people in the US. The State of Michigan should just call itself GM. Barack Obama, with his superior knowledge and world view is putting Michigan and GM on the pass line and cavalierly tossing the dice into the air.

Did Obama make this decision with more than three hours of deliberation on his part? How much thought, if any, was given to what may happen if he is wrong: potentially millions of livelihoods destroyed, a national industrial base in ruins and US economic collapse?

Only one of these men can be right. GM will be declaring bankruptcy any day now. We will soon see who is right. The difference between daring and recklessness is the objective likelihood of success of the underlying act. Leaders need self confidence to succeed but they also need to know their limits and ground their decisions grounded in reality.

Funny thing about pulling triggers, sometimes the gun is loaded and sometimes someone is in front of the barrel. There are no do-overs in real life. GM, Michigan and millions of families are riding on Obama's bet.

441 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:35am

re: #416 Sharmuta

Yeah, I know. But at least I will still be around for part of the day. I am getting a craving for fruitcup though. ;)

442 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:40:00am

re: #405 Ford_Prefect
Hi Ford! I just knew that you'd be overjoyed after last night's stomping ball game! And yes, UConn Women's B-ball is phenominal, only the Lady Vols have been able to challenge them over the past 8 or 9 years.
Congrat's to the UConn Women's Basketaball Team - National Champions Again!

443 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:40:13am

Good morning folks. How's everybody today?

It was so cold in Toronto, "Barry", my flying unicorn, wouldn't come out of his stable. I had to give him extra helpings of arugula & waffles just to get him started.

realwest: I got your email this morning. I sent you a response.

tfk: we live in interesting times.

444 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:41:07am

Our Friends, the Chinese and the Russians

And...of course, our friends the Somalis

I'd say none of these guys feel the least bit threatened by our current President.

445 So?  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:41:26am

re: #434 OldLineTexan

So we will just leave the delivery and garbage trucks, and these things. No taxis, either?

Pass.

Garbage trucks can pick up at night. Delivery trucks okay. Taxis? You make these things cheap enough so driving one costs less than a cab.

446 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:41:32am

re: #435 VioletTiger

There are some nice areas up there, especially right near the lake. Lots of old victorian homes. They get a lot more snow than we do in the southern reaches.

Well, my Mom and Dads home was nothing special, grey cinderblock, 2 bedrooms and a unfinished basement. But it sat on the side of a hill 300 feet above the lake and we had a view of most of the southern end of the lake.

So may tourists had driven past that view claiming "it's a million dollar view" and Dad kept offering the house for that price.

We were poor and living in Brooklyn, and they spent two years putting the money together to get out of the city.

No CRA.

447 ciaospirit  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:42:11am

re: #378 J.D.

I do not require a black president to know that I am a person of worth,

I love that line. Whites should be saying the same thing.

448 Rednek  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:42:17am

re: #425 VioletTiger

This is worrisome. I think our infrastructure, especially electric and water, is very vulnerable. I don't think we are doing enough to protect it.

Yes.

We have GPS but they have the capacity for sabotage.

I hope those charged with our protection are fixing this.

449 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:42:34am

re: #401 Ford_Prefect

So this is what our tax dollars are going to develop.

GM, Segway to Make Vehicle

(Emphasis added by FP)

There is a video of it on the page. The thing actually looks kind of cool, but rather impractical, especially for anyone living outside of a major city.

It's a glorified golf cart, which will cost around $5,000. Why would anyone want to buy one when you can get a more versatile economy car that provides more safety features and the ability to go on highways?

I don't see the utility of having it, except on golf courses, where they already have golf carts.

Unless they're using this to exploit the development of battery tech, I don't think this is going to help GM stave off bankruptcy, which is what their bean counters are busy doing in any event. GM is circling the drain.

450 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:07am

re: #420 albusteve Thanks, but I hadn't heard that before - what on earth set off Bloomfield?

451 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:09am

re: #444 Desert Dog

Our Friends, the Chinese and the Russians

And...of course, our friends the Somalis

I'd say none of these guys feel the least bit threatened by our current President.

What are the odds Obama's admin. pays the ransom.

452 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:14am

re: #441 BlueCanuck

It's still up there, you can always ding it when you get in.

453 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:15am

re: #413 realwest

Hi LindaMarie - uh, cooled off to about what temperature range are you talking about?!
And I'm glad to see you out here and will be even happier when I see you posting out here from a Stateside location!

Day time - Fahrenheit about 40 degrees. Should be 60.
Others here told me that there was snow here at 5 AM today. Missed that. OK with me.
Should be Stateside soon for a while.

454 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:31am

re: #442 realwest

Hi Ford! I just knew that you'd be overjoyed after last night's stomping ball game! And yes, UConn Women's B-ball is phenominal, only the Lady Vols have been able to challenge them over the past 8 or 9 years.
Congrat's to the UConn Women's Basketaball Team - National Champions Again!

And the great thing about their program is that the ladies are all good role models for young girls, and even boys. Auriemma has been accused of being a great recruiter but not necessarily a great coach. The truth is he takes theses young athletes and molds them into great players and great people. His graduation rate is near 100%.

455 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:51am

re: #449 lawhawk

It's a glorified golf cart, which will cost around $5,000. Why would anyone want to buy one when you can get a more versatile economy car that provides more safety features and the ability to go on highways?

I don't see the utility of having it, except on golf courses, where they already have golf carts.

Unless they're using this to exploit the development of battery tech, I don't think this is going to help GM stave off bankruptcy, which is what their bean counters are busy doing in any event. GM is circling the drain.

Er, for the same reason people buy anything, to say they did, to brag that they own it, to "feel" good.

I have a pet rock you can buy.

456 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:44:16am

re: #451 KenJen

What are the odds Obama's admin. pays the ransom.

Alot higher than a Navy Seal team going in there and killing all the bastard terrorists and rescuing the held sailors

457 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:44:46am

re: #308 lifeofthemind

More bad news,
Somali Pirates Hijack ship with 21 Americans onboard.

I know people who've sailed with Maersk, I think their Licensed Engineers are contracted through AMO (American Maritime Officers Union).

458 Rednek  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:44:59am

re: #444 Desert Dog

Our Friends, the Chinese and the Russians

And...of course, our friends the Somalis

I'd say none of these guys feel the least bit threatened by our current President.

Two tests for our great and exalted empty suit.

459 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:45:18am

re: #439 Sharmuta

He's delicious.

We're going to roast him? Thought he was like a mascot...

460 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:45:19am

re: #438 OldLineTexan

My mistake. You will just have to find another chicken for the recipe or it will not be authenic.

461 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:45:22am

re: #454 Ford_Prefect

And the great thing about their program is that the ladies are all good role models for young girls, and even boys. Auriemma has been accused of being a great recruiter but not necessarily a great coach. The truth is he takes theses young athletes and molds them into great players and great people. His graduation rate is near 100%.

They did look good and did you notice there was not one nappy-headed ho in the lot too?

462 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:45:26am

re: #451 KenJen

What are the odds Obama's admin. pays the ransom.

He understands them.

/feh

463 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:45:42am
464 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:45:57am

re: #455 Walter L. Newton

Err... no thanks... I'd rather go play with my lawn darts.

465 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:45:58am

re: #440 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

It would be nice if we could be discussing this instead of what 0bama watches on television or nirth certificates.

AG- you should be writing at National Review or something.

466 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:46:11am

re: #449 lawhawk

It's a glorified golf cart, which will cost around $5,000. Why would anyone want to buy one when you can get a more versatile economy car that provides more safety features and the ability to go on highways?

I don't see the utility of having it, except on golf courses, where they already have golf carts.

Unless they're using this to exploit the development of battery tech, I don't think this is going to help GM stave off bankruptcy, which is what their bean counters are busy doing in any event. GM is circling the drain.

I would have to agree. Unless you live in a major city it would be pretty useless. And if you do live in a major city, where would you park the thing? And, besides, most major cities already have good public transportation that would be considerably cheaper, safer and likely more convenient.

467 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:46:11am

re: #445 So?


Just don't drive through a puddle. Or up a hill. Or out in the cold. Or behind a smoke-belching truck.
Maybe it'd work in some idyllic city out West or down South. But the bulk of the country isn't going to re-do their infrastructure for the benefit of a souped-up wheelchair.
Maybe that's a little cynical, and the thing is undeniably cool, but I really don't see it becoming a big seller.

468 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:46:16am

Yea, goddess got it! Morning all, if you haven't read Paglia yet check it out.
[Link: www.salon.com...]

I wish all liberals had as much common sense.

469 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:46:20am

Canadian warship thwarts Somali pirate attack

A Canadian warship ... thwarted a pirate attack in the Arabian Sea Saturday and on Sunday came to the rescue of Somali refugees.

HMCS Winnipeg, part of a NATO-led counter-piracy mission known as Operation Allied Protector, saw three small pirate skiffs closing in on an Indian merchant vessel, the Pacific Opal, in the Gulf of Aden. The warship was escorting another vessel nearby when the Pacific Opal radioed for help.

The Canadian ship's commanding officer, Cmdr. Craig Baines, immediately ordered the ship's Sea King helicopter to investigate. The helicopter flew between the threatened vessel and the pirates to scare them away.

The helicopter crew hung a two-foot-by-three-foot red stop sign from the side of the aircraft that says "Stop" in Somali. "We hung it right beside (the chopper's) C-6 machine gun and they (got) the idea that we don't like what they're doing,"

Enough of this Thwarting and scaring. Do you know what would have really gotten the message across? Instead of hanging stop signs from the C-6 machine gun, next time pull the trigger. That works even better and last much longer.

470 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:46:27am

re: #447 ciaospirit

I love that line. Whites should be saying the same thing.

Isn't that the truth!

471 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:46:39am

re: #458 Rednek

You forgot the Iranians.

472 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:46:43am

re: #456 Desert Dog

Alot higher than a Navy Seal team going in there and killing all the bastard terrorists and rescuing the held sailors

Isn't this basically the same crap that was going on almost 200 years ago, you know, all that "shores of Montezuma" and stuff? And then, didn't we like go over there and burn their ass? What happened, we lost the maps?

473 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:46:45am

re: #456 Desert Dog
That would make a great documentary.

474 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:46:52am

re: #428 Lincolntf
Morning to you! And I'm with you about that
PUMA - that does NOT look safe - hell there are folks in NYC who'd deliberately sideswipe ya just to see you fall over!
Why couldn't they make the sucker with FOUR wheels - how hard could that be?!

475 ciaospirit  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:47:01am

re: #336 taxfreekiller

[Link: www.taxdayteaparty.com...]

If you want this movement to make sense and move in the direction you approve, go , get involved, make a difference yourselves.

Nah, that would require doing something other than bitching about it on blogs.

/

476 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:47:03am

re: #461 Desert Dog

Oh, you did not go there.

477 voluble  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:47:08am
The health of a nation is inversely proportional to the number of laws that govern it.

There, I fixed it.

478 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:48:32am

re: #449 lawhawk

For some reason, I can't get to your site.

479 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:48:53am

re: #466 Ford_Prefect

I would have to agree. Unless you live in a major city it would be pretty useless. And if you do live in a major city, where would you park the thing? And, besides, most major cities already have good public transportation that would be considerably cheaper, safer and likely more convenient.

Wasn't the Segway supposed to change the way we traveled as well? Americans want cars...and I think this is an exercise in futility for GM. They should hire away the engineers and designers from Honda, Toyota and Hyundai and emulate the companies that are actually producing cars Americans want. Instead, they do this feel good nonsense. I wonder if Chairman Obama is onboard with this?

480 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:49:55am

Just a reminder to all lizards owned by cats--no Easter lilies. And don't give them to your elderly aunt or Mom if they have cats. Easter lilies are very poisonous to cats. Just a nibble or a bit of pollen can cause renal failure. There really should be warning labels on these things. Please choose some other flowers for the holidays (This goes for all lilies, even the Stargazer kind, and others in flower arrangments).

481 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:49:57am

re: #450 realwest

Thanks, but I hadn't heard that before - what on earth set off Bloomfield?

the myth is that Bloomfield just could not keep up with Koopers perfectionism and long hours...the first side was recorded nonstop...Bloomfield was a Chicago player that wanted to just lay down the stuff live...finally he walked out and the rest is history...Stills had a whole different thing which is obvious when you hear the record 'Supersession'...Season of the Witch is classic stuff...big horns, lots of delicate, dreamy guitar...but Bloomfields side is excellent too...he was a young virtuoso similar to Mick Taylor

482 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:50:06am

re: #474 realwest

Morning to you! And I'm with you about that
PUMA - that does NOT look safe - hell there are folks in NYC who'd deliberately sideswipe ya just to see you fall over!
Why couldn't they make the sucker with FOUR wheels - how hard could that be?!

They did, it's called the Smart car. Probably the most incorrectly named vehicle ever.

483 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:50:47am

re: #457 Hengineer

I know people who've sailed with Maersk, I think their Licensed Engineers are contracted through AMO (American Maritime Officers Union).

I can just picture my mother hearing about it and worrying what might happen to me, despite the fact I sail on gray hulls and if we go anywhere near the other side of "The Ditch", we get a security force with M-16's and .50 cals.

484 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:50:59am

re: #482 Ford_Prefect

They did, it's called the Smart car. Probably the most incorrectly named vehicle ever.

That's not a car...it's a glorified skate.

485 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:51:00am

re: #482 Ford_Prefect

They did, it's called the Smart car. Probably the most incorrectly named vehicle ever.

In your opinion, what's wrong with them?

486 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:51:07am

re: #472 Walter L. Newton

Isn't this basically the same crap that was going on almost 200 years ago, you know, all that "shores of Montezuma" and stuff? And then, didn't we like go over there and burn their ass? What happened, we lost the maps?

"shores of Tripoli"

487 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:51:28am

re: #480 VioletTiger

I didn't know that, good thing I've only got dogs because the MIL always brings easter lilies over.

488 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:51:32am

re: #485 Walter L. Newton

In your opinion, what's wrong with them?

Its a mechanical object, it has no brain.

489 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:51:37am

re: #479 Desert Dog

I wonder if Chairman Obama is onboard with this?

I am sure he is. It is all electric. Just what he wants us to be driving so that the world will like us again.

490 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:51:54am

re: #486 albusteve

"shores of Tripoli"

Oh yea, it was the "halls of MonteHall." Now I remember.

491 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:52:02am

re: #482 Ford_Prefect

They did, it's called the Smart car. Probably the most incorrectly named vehicle ever.

If they called it was it really was instead of what they think it was, it would be a DUMB car

492 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:52:34am

re: #437 J.D.
Hey {J.D.) yes indeedy it is COLD for this time of year. It was 27 degrees when I woke up, so I took my first med with a glass of cold water I keep on my bedside table and waited under the covers until it got warmer! LOL!
I'm doing ok, just more darn back problems.
You doing well, I hope? It sure sounds a tad cold by you, too!

493 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:52:44am

re: #488 Hengineer

Its a mechanical object, it has no brain.

I'm suspecting that was a sarcastic answer, because my question was serious.

494 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:52:58am

re: #461 Desert Dog

They did look good and did you notice there was not one nappy-headed ho in the lot too?


Did you forget the scac tag?

495 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:52:59am

re: #401 Ford_Prefect

I was resetting a Lowes store a couple of years ago when this fellow came rolling down the isle on the darnedest wheelchair.

It only had two wheels, and when the fellow wanted to reach something on a shelf above him, he could hit a button and the seat rose up giving him a couple of feet added height.

Well. I try to be polite and not bother folks, but it would have taken someone with more self-restraint than razorbacker not to have been curious. I approached the fellow and introduced myself, asked if he had time to chat, and if he minded talking about his chair.

It was based on the same technology as the Segway, cost an astonding amount of money, and was made by a small company in (iirc) Germany.

As the guy told me, "Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have my legs, but this thing has given me a degree of freedom that I thought gone forever."

496 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:53:21am

re: #485 Walter L. Newton

In your opinion, what's wrong with them?

My biggest issue is that despite being to small to be safe they still don't get great mileage. I could understand if the things got 50 mpg, but they barely get better mileage than my Mazda3.

497 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:53:37am

the PUMA has zero carbon footprint. All you do is plug it into the wall. It runs on electricity.

/moonbat off

498 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:53:55am

re: #493 Walter L. Newton

I'm suspecting that was a sarcastic answer, because my question was serious.

/PIMF

499 Canoe Train  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:54:08am

re: #327 eon

Thank you. I could not have said it better. It is time to repeal some of the latter day laws and prohibitions preventing us from going after these individuals and putting them out of business.

500 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:54:09am
501 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:54:12am

re: #480 VioletTiger

Darn I have Tiger lilies in the yard. They should go?

502 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:54:19am

re: #480 VioletTiger

Just a reminder to all lizards owned by cats--no Easter lilies. And don't give them to your elderly aunt or Mom if they have cats. Easter lilies are very poisonous to cats. Just a nibble or a bit of pollen can cause renal failure. There really should be warning labels on these things. Please choose some other flowers for the holidays (This goes for all lilies, even the Stargazer kind, and others in flower arrangments).

I did not know that. Thanks.

503 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:54:39am

re: #482 Ford_Prefect

They did, it's called the Smart car. Probably the most incorrectly named vehicle ever.

I see quite a few of those around here in Phoenix though. I personally would be terrified to drive that around in this traffice. People in the Phoenix area drive like they are all late for the a**hole convention. And, add to that I have three kids to cart around...not a very family friendly car.

504 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:54:44am

Every new day, Obama manages to appall me in new and wonderful ways.

Barack Obama rejects Normandy trip to avoid offending Germany


"It wasn't going to happen," said an American official in Washington. "We went through the motions to placate President Sarkozy but giving special treatment to France was not on our agenda.

"During this trip, we wanted to maintain a balance between the British, German and France".

Gosh no, we don't want to "offend the Germans" by honoring the American soldiers who gave their lives on Omaha beach.

505 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:55:02am

re: #495 razorbacker

That is a great use of this technology.

506 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:55:06am

re: #500 MandyManners

Happy Birthday, Julian!


[Video]

nice...looks just like the old man

507 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:55:22am

re: #487 turn

I didn't know that, good thing I've only got dogs because the MIL always brings easter lilies over.

Many people don't. That's why I am posting it. I've owned cats for years and only learned it a few years back.

508 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:56:08am

re: #507 VioletTiger

Many people don't. That's why I am posting it. I've owned cats for years and only learned it a few years back.

I emailed it to the MIL, SHE HAS A CAT.

509 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:56:11am

re: #496 Ford_Prefect

My biggest issue is that despite being to small to be safe they still don't get great mileage. I could understand if the things got 50 mpg, but they barely get better mileage than my Mazda3.

Ok, here's my take on that. I think it's because they have to be retrofitted for use in the US, so, you loose some of the better gas milage.

Other than that, the safety issue doesn't seem to be much of a problem, at least in Europe. They are all over the place, in the cities and on major throughways, at speeds sometimes much higher than ours.

I don't know, they seem to work fine for Europe.

510 badger1970  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:56:30am

re: #472 Walter L. Newton

Oh how barbaric! Imagine taking the fight to the enemy, hurt them where it counts and make them reluctant to do it again. The maps aren't lost but the will to do what is right has!

511 jorline  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:56:31am

*Enters the thread*
*Bows*

Good morning all...what are we talking about this morning?

512 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:56:39am

re: #492 realwest

27°. Brrr!
Here, when it's cool in the morning and there is condensation on the ground, the call it "frost".
No, I am not kidding. lol

I'm getting better every day.
Sorry your back is still bothering you. Have you considered physical therapy?

513 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:56:53am

re: #480 VioletTiger

Good to know. Did you see the knucklehead on GMA this morning. He decided to become a vegan so he made his cats vegans also. The vet they interviewed said it was not healthy for them. He didnt care.

514 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:57:03am

re: #504 Kenneth

Every new day, Obama manages to appall me in new and wonderful ways.

Barack Obama rejects Normandy trip to avoid offending Germany


Gosh no, we don't want to "offend the Germans" by honoring the American soldiers who gave their lives on Omaha beach.


I wonder how WWII would have turned out with him in Charge?

Any chance of unclenched Nazi fists?

515 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:57:14am

re: #440 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I happen to believe that bankruptcy was inevitable for GM, and the bailouts delayed that reckoning. In fact, the bailouts took one of the few remaining cards out from Wagoner's hand - the ability to force concessions from the unions without having to go into bankruptcy. Now, with that gone, Wagoner had nothing else to do except hope that his moribund product lines could weather the storm and that the Chevy Volt saves the day in the 2010 model year.

Wagoner cut the number of GM employees by half during his tenure, but his product lines didn't exactly rise to the occasion. He and his fellow execs at GM killed Saturn, even though Saturn was supposed to be the model on which the rest of the company was supposed to model itself. Corporate culture is a difficult thing to change, and a huge company like GM isn't going to do change easily or willingly.

Also, GM was exposed to the mortgage meltdown via the GMAC unit, which was the cash cow for the company since it made more on financing cars than it did selling them.

However, I do agree with you that Obama doesn't have the slightest clue what it means to run a company (or anything other than a campaign - as he is in perpetual campaign mode since that's all he's familiar doing).

His rolling the dice and imposing the government will on a private company is highly unsettling and unprecedented. The fact of the matter is that Obama doesn't want GM to go bankrupt, and is hoping that a change at the top would stave it off. GM's problems are systemic and endemic to a company that could not change itself fast enough and whose sales dropped like a rock when oil prices soared, even though the company has plenty of cars that get good mileage (they're just cars that no one wants to buy). GM has an image problem, and circling the drain isn't helping matters.

Neither is pursuing products that will not result in an improved bottom line (such as the glorified golf cart w/Segway). Bankruptcy is the best option to reorganize the company, shed the onerous contracts, and to get the government's heavy hand (and our taxpayer dollars) out of the company. It should be able to emerge as a much leaner and financially stable company at the end of the day. The unions (and Democrats) will do what they always do, to avoid that outcome.

516 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:57:24am

re: #494 LindaMarie

Did you forget the scac tag?

/

It was a swipe at a certain radio personality. The UCONN basketball team is what every college sports program should aim for. High graduation rates, exceptional teamwork and quality individuals that will undoubtedly contribute to society in a positive manner.

517 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:57:36am

re: #509 Walter L. Newton

Ok, here's my take on that. I think it's because they have to be retrofitted for use in the US, so, you loose some of the better gas milage.

Other than that, the safety issue doesn't seem to be much of a problem, at least in Europe. They are all over the place, in the cities and on major throughways, at speeds sometimes much higher than ours.

I don't know, they seem to work fine for Europe.

Europeans have a market full of smaller cars, because of their smaller roads. Here in America, too many people like their cars and roads big and huge, so imagine a crash between a huge SUV and a smart car, who is going to win?

518 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:57:49am

re: #501 LindaMarie

Darn I have Tiger lilies in the yard. They should go?

Do your cats nibble them or other plants? This article explains.

[Link: www.physorg.com...]

519 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:21am

re: #503 Desert Dog

I see quite a few of those around here in Phoenix though. I personally would be terrified to drive that around in this traffice. People in the Phoenix area drive like they are all late for the a**hole convention. And, add to that I have three kids to cart around...not a very family friendly car.

They are all over cities like Paris, and have you ever driven around Paris (I have). They do fine. It's a matter of everyone on the road getting use to them and the drivers knowing how to drive them safely.

Knowing American drivers, they would probably take advantage of it's size and ability to go almost anyplace and find stupid things to do with it. Americans are extremely nasty drivers.

520 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:22am

re: #478 J.D.

For some reason, I can't get to your site.

Don't know why you're having a problem. I don't have any connectivity issues here. It's probably a local issue...

521 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:29am

re: #440 Ayatollah Ghilmeini Again another hat tip for a wonderful comment. However you asked: " How much thought, if any, was given to what may happen if he is wrong: potentially millions of livelihoods destroyed, a national industrial base in ruins and US economic collapse?"

And I'd wager that NO THOUGHT WAS GIVEN AT TO WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS WRONG. He is a classic Narcissist - he cannot be wrong. When that house of cards comes falling down around his ears - and that's a BIG fall - he'll just blame Bush and move on. Not even reflection AFTER the fact for Obama.
Great, great comment by you.

522 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:29am

re: #509 Walter L. Newton

Ok, here's my take on that. I think it's because they have to be retrofitted for use in the US, so, you loose some of the better gas milage.

Other than that, the safety issue doesn't seem to be much of a problem, at least in Europe. They are all over the place, in the cities and on major throughways, at speeds sometimes much higher than ours.

I don't know, they seem to work fine for Europe.

drunken driving is so severe in ABQ that a Smart car is actually a safety risk beyond normal...after dark would be suicide, but there a alot of them down here

523 rightside  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:35am

re: #504 Kenneth

Disgusting.

I don't want him stinking up the place around our men of honor, anyway.

524 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:43am

re: #510 badger1970

Oh how barbaric! Imagine taking the fight to the enemy, hurt them where it counts and make them reluctant to do it again. The maps aren't lost but the will to do what is right has!

Barbaric. Bite my ass :)

525 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:46am

re: #513 KenJen

Good to know. Did you see the knucklehead on GMA this morning. He decided to become a vegan so he made his cats vegans also. The vet they interviewed said it was not healthy for them. He didnt care.

Cats vegan? The only reason they eat plants anyway is to help their digestive tract get rid of all that hair, not for dietary reasons.

What a complete douche, the Humane society should confiscate his animals.

526 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:47am
527 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:52am

re: #509 Walter L. Newton

If they put a hybrid engine in it and got the great mileage then it would make sense. But why spend all that money on a car that seats only two and has no cargo room when you can buy one for just a little bit more money that has much more room and gets just as good mileage?

528 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:54am

re: #479 Desert Dog

Wasn't the Segway supposed to change the way we traveled as well? Americans want cars...and I think this is an exercise in futility for GM. They should hire away the engineers and designers from Honda, Toyota and Hyundai and emulate the companies that are actually producing cars Americans want. Instead, they do this feel good nonsense. I wonder if Chairman Obama is onboard with this?

The concept is for the city of the future. I saw a animated video of the Segway "pods" zipping alone in their own dedicated lanes and controlled by a computer grid in the roadway. A sort of horizontal elevator to move people from one part of a city to another.
Before that would happen, electric urban vehicles could still be used in self contained communities and cities. They are not designed to replace your car, just used for the majority of local commutes. I think the GM/Segway announcement was designed to try and show GM has a future, nothing more.

529 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:59am

re: #513 KenJen

Good to know. Did you see the knucklehead on GMA this morning. He decided to become a vegan so he made his cats vegans also. The vet they interviewed said it was not healthy for them. He didnt care.

Criminy! He's going to kill them. Cats need animal protein. They can't live on carrots. A$$hat.

530 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:59:02am

re: #519 Walter L. Newton

Damn straight!

531 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:59:24am

re: #519 Walter L. Newton

They are all over cities like Paris, and have you ever driven around Paris (I have). They do fine. It's a matter of everyone on the road getting use to them and the drivers knowing how to drive them safely.

Knowing American drivers, they would probably take advantage of it's size and ability to go almost anyplace and find stupid things to do with it. Americans are extremely nasty drivers.

...You've driven in Paris, what do you think of the Parisian cab drivers then?

532 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:59:39am

re: #506 albusteve

nice...looks just like the old man

He sure does. And, he has a sweet voice.

533 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:59:41am

re: #495 razorbacker

If it's the one I've seen in television shows on the Segway, it actually climbs stairs, too. Now that's pretty cool for a wheelchair.

534 Canoe Train  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:59:49am

re: #440 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Let GM declare bankruptcy. It would probably be a better company after all was said and done.

535 jorline  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:00:01am

re: #521 realwest

Good morning RW. Did you get my email? Hope all is well for you today.

536 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:00:14am

re: #504 Kenneth

Barack Obama, concerned about offending Britain and Germany, rebuffed strenuous attempts by President Nicolas Sarkozy of France to persuade the new American president to make a trip to Normandy this week.


That is pathetic.
/change someone other than me may be able to believe in

537 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:00:22am

re: #525 Hengineer

I completley agree.

538 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:00:42am

re: #528 avanti

The concept is for the city of the future. I saw a animated video of the Segway "pods" zipping alone in their own dedicated lanes and controlled by a computer grid in the roadway. A sort of horizontal elevator to move people from one part of a city to another.
Before that would happen, electric urban vehicles could still be used in self contained communities and cities. They are not designed to replace your car, just used for the majority of local commutes. I think the GM/Segway announcement was designed to try and show GM has a future, nothing more.

I am waiting for the transporter beam

539 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:01:07am

re: #517 Hengineer

Europeans have a market full of smaller cars, because of their smaller roads. Here in America, too many people like their cars and roads big and huge, so imagine a crash between a huge SUV and a smart car, who is going to win?

Smaller roads? Have you ever been on the A6 in France. Have you ever been on the Peripherie in Paris, or the throughways to the airport, all around the city.

They is NOTHING different about Paris and it's suburbs than any major American city.

Ever been to Philiadelphia, talk about small streets.

540 badger1970  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:01:09am

A slight curve ball here, but check out today's Astronomy picture (also featured on foxnews)

"Crown of Thorns" galaxy cluster

541 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:01:15am

Compare the beautiful heart wrenching Speech President Reagan made at Normandy to the current POTUS.

It's sad to think that in less than one generation we could have a president who can't even f-ing show up to honor the brave Soldiers who paid the ultimate price to give him the freedom he now enjoys.

DISGUSTING

542 ciaospirit  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:01:18am

re: #440 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Obama knows how to get elected, he is a fluent liar, has a flair for friendships with individuals of the most despicable ideas and character and has never demonstrated a single act of honor or greatness on his path to power.

Not what the AP says. This is real greatness!

Obama achieves defining TV shot in Iraq

543 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:01:39am

re: #513 KenJen

Good to know. Did you see the knucklehead on GMA this morning. He decided to become a vegan so he made his cats vegans also. The vet they interviewed said it was not healthy for them. He didnt care.

I hope someone turns his rotten ass into the SPCA in his area.

544 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:02:03am

FOX is reporting that the ship the somalia pirates seized was filled with emergency supplies and headed for Kenya.

Nice ... /

545 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:02:08am

re: #539 Walter L. Newton

Smaller roads? Have you ever been on the A6 in France. Have you ever been on the Peripherie in Paris, or the throughways to the airport, all around the city.

They is NOTHING different about Paris and it's suburbs than any major American city.

Ever been to Philiadelphia, talk about small streets.

Ah, didn't know they modernized many of their main roads...

546 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:02:10am

re: #531 Hengineer

...You've driven in Paris, what do you think of the Parisian cab drivers then?

Nascar would be dominated by guys named Jacques and Pierre if any of them every came over and started driving racecars

547 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:02:11am

Next, Obama skips 9-11 memorial at Ground Zero to avoid offending Al qaeda

548 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:02:52am

re: #531 Hengineer

...You've driven in Paris, what do you think of the Parisian cab drivers then?

Colorful, they know what they are doing, even if it scares you.

549 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:03:29am

re: #546 Desert Dog
After being in downtown Hong Kong, Singapore, and Manila, the only things cab drivers need is their accelerator and a horn!

550 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:03:31am

re: #548 Walter L. Newton

Colorful, they know what they are doing, even if it scares you.

To be honest, the scariest cab drivers around I've seen were in Istanbul in Turkey.

Those guys wouldn't even slow down for pedestrians crossing the street.

551 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:03:42am

re: #520 lawhawk

Don't know why you're having a problem. I don't have any connectivity issues here. It's probably a local issue...

I got in finally.

552 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:03:45am

re: #529 VioletTiger

Criminy! He's going to kill them. Cats need animal protein. They can't live on carrots. A$$hat.

My bro had a cat named Catfish, he absolutely loved salad. You couldn't put a bowl on the table and turn your back on him because he would jump up and start eating it. Crazy

553 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:04:07am

re: #542 ciaospirit

Not what the AP says. This is real greatness!

Obama achieves defining TV shot in Iraq

Ahhh, Symbolism is so fulfilling...NOT

Style over substance, just like Slick Willie.

OTOH, it is good he went to Iraq and met the troops, I will give him props for that.

554 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:04:13am

re: #528 avanti

...nothing more.

You got the last two words right. Can't wait to see you on your electric pogo stick.

555 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:04:17am

re: #552 turn

My bro had a cat named Catfish, he absolutely loved salad. You couldn't put a bowl on the table and turn your back on him because he would jump up and start eating it. Crazy

I bet he still ate tuna if given half the chance...

556 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:04:30am

re: #546 Desert Dog

Paris is one thing. Not so bad, a little "wide open" for my tastes actually. But I have had few scarier experiences than driving in Italy. I won't even try to describe it, any of you who have been there know what I'm talking about.

557 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:05:04am

re: #549 pingjockey

After being in downtown Hong Kong, Singapore, and Manila, the only things cab drivers need is their accelerator and a horn!

brakes? We don't need to stinkin' brakes!

558 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:05:05am

Also on GMA this morning they had a woman who was in love with the Statue of Liberty. I also love Lady Liberty but not in the way this woman does. She loves her in a very special way.

559 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:05:16am

re: #514 Shug

I wonder how WWII would have turned out with him in Charge?

Any chance of unclenched Nazi fists?

Look up "Neville Chamberlain".

560 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:05:49am

re: #541 Shug

Compare the beautiful heart wrenching Speech President Reagan made at Normandy to the current POTUS.

It's sad to think that in less than one generation we could have a president who can't even f-ing show up to honor the brave Soldiers who paid the ultimate price to give him the freedom he now enjoys.

DISGUSTING

I'm not at all surprised anymore...I think this repulsive behavior will cost him down the road...voters may be naive but they understand stuff like this...there are still alot of patriots out there that are gonna takr it outa his hide...he will NOT be re-elected

561 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:05:53am

re: #558 KenJen

Also on GMA this morning they had a woman who was in love with the Statue of Liberty. I also love Lady Liberty but not in the way this woman does. She loves her in a very special way.

...somehow you just can't even come up with a one-liner zinger to that...

562 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:06:22am

Sheesh. We're spending 11 million bucks to connect the micro soft campuses in Redmond Wa. with a pedestrian bridge. Let bill gates pay for it out of pocket change!

563 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:06:32am

re: #552 turn

My bro had a cat named Catfish, he absolutely loved salad. You couldn't put a bowl on the table and turn your back on him because he would jump up and start eating it. Crazy

Were there olives in that salad?

564 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:06:35am

re: #552 turn

My bro had a cat named Catfish, he absolutely loved salad. You couldn't put a bowl on the table and turn your back on him because he would jump up and start eating it. Crazy

One on my cats eats pie crust and pizzelles. Of course, they all eat grass and then barf.

565 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:06:42am

re: #561 Hengineer

...somehow you just can't even come up with a one-liner zinger to that...

Is she holding a torch for her?

566 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:06:45am

re: #256 freetoken

Hey hey...

Didn't we discuss the impending demise of the banana on LGF recently?

It's peanut butter jelly time!

567 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:07:20am

re: #549 pingjockey

After being in downtown Hong Kong, Singapore, and Manila, the only things cab drivers need is their accelerator and a horn!

Same in China, my buddy and I used to joke we were going to make a fortune in the automobile horn aftermarket there.

568 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:08:00am

re: #519 Walter L. Newton

I saw them when I was in Paris in 2007. Cute cars that are meant for commuting; not hauling the wife and kids (especially young'uns with the strollers and all the usual gear). I commented to the Mrs. that those cars are great if you're a single person or married without kids, but you would definitely need a second car if you had kids (which in France isn't much of an issue given the low birthrates).

The cars are popping up around the NYC metro area, and folks give them quite a few stares. They fill a niche in the market, but there are a few things that make them not as appealing as traditional compact cars. Municipalities do not let them back into spots and park perpendicular to the curb, allowing 2 to park in a traditional parking spot. If that was allowed, more people would consider them since it would free up additional parking (and municipalities could increase their revenues at the same time - hint hint). Their gas mileage is 31/42 mpg, which is better than the Corolla, which seats 4 comfortably but gets 25/31 (my old 2005 Corolla gets 30 mpg mixed and usually gets fed an ethanol blended fuel in the summer that reduces mileage about 10%). I can haul far more in the Corolla than I could in the Smart Fortwo.

Which one is the more economical? Well, if you need a second car to haul your wife and kids (unless you have the wife and kids from hell), then the Smart car isn't all that smart (or economical). However, it does make sense for the single folks and those who are city commuters.

My biggest problem with all of the government intrusion is that they're trying a one-size fits all approach to driving, and people in cities have different needs from those in the suburbs, let alone those who are in the rural areas.

569 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:08:08am

re: #563 KenJen

Were there olives in that salad?

I don't think so, but it's been a long time. Why, do cats like olives?

570 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:08:24am

re: #567 turn
Oh yeah! Corner the market on General Lee horns!

571 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:08:32am

None of this matters-wife just baked bread, and I swiped the heel,hot,with a ton of butter.
Life is good.

572 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:09:37am

re: #569 turn

Ask Mandy when you see her. She knows all about it.

573 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:09:46am

Holy Frak! It's snowing here in Bergen County! Did Al Gore arrive here without my knowing?

574 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:09:58am

re: #571 irongrampa

None of this matters-wife just baked bread, and I swiped the heel,hot,with a ton of butter.
Life is good.

Lucky dog! Can you put some on the intertubes for us? ;)

575 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:10:08am

re: #568 lawhawk
There's a few here in North Central Wa. Look damn funny next to a farmers F250! We are talking about those egg shaped electric cars, right?

576 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:10:08am

re: #555 Hengineer

I bet he still ate tuna if given half the chance...

That damn cat, he was the only one to ever actually bit turn. I got even with a once in the lifetime plumb toss that hit him right in the head at about thirty yards on a dead run.

577 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:10:56am

Newt has been savaging BO all week, getting in a lot of opinion...hmmm...I'm a Newthead myself and I hope he goes for it despite the controversy of his private life

578 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:10:57am

I hate cats. they make me sneeze and they crap indoors

579 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:11:03am

re: #573 lawhawk
It was 50 at 5:30 am here in the Wenatchee Valey. Meanwhile it was 34 in Pensacola Fla!

580 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:11:05am

re: #564 VioletTiger

One on my cats eats pie crust and pizzelles. Of course, they all eat grass and then barf.


Oh yeah? My MIL's cat can answer the phone (not kidding)

581 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:11:05am

What did FCBBHO miss about the military this time?

582 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:11:25am

re: #576 turn

That damn cat, he was the only one to ever actually bit turn. I got even with a once in the lifetime plumb toss that hit him right in the head at about thirty yards on a dead run.

I used to "rassle" with my cat and got scratch and bite marks all over my arms.

then he'd lick me as if he was sorry.

583 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:11:29am

Reine... if you are reading, check your e-mail. I just sent recipes to you for fish, molasses cookies and brandied peaches.

584 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:11:31am

re: #443 Kenneth
Good morning back atcha Kenneth - received and replied to your e-mail!

585 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:11:45am

re: #581 MandyManners
Everything.

586 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:07am

re: #581 MandyManners

He declined to visit Normandy so as not to "offend" the Germans.

587 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:08am

re: #513 KenJen

Good to know. Did you see the knucklehead on GMA this morning. He decided to become a vegan so he made his cats vegans also. The vet they interviewed said it was not healthy for them. He didnt care.

I suggest he go and teach lions to be vegans.

588 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:11am

re: #581 MandyManners

What did FCBBHO miss about the military this time?

The reasons we have one?

589 badger1970  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:16am

re: #542 ciaospirit

What a snaky article, especially the last two paragraphs, "unpopular war" and mentioning the show throwing incident.

590 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:21am

re: #570 pingjockey

Oh yeah! Corner the market on General Lee horns!

Ha! Traffic is nuts in China, those lines in the middle of the road are merely suggestions.

591 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:24am

re: #581 MandyManners

What did FCBBHO miss about the military this time?

won't visit Normandy...doesn't want to offend the Germans

592 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:30am

re: #582 Hengineer

I used to "rassle" with my cat and got scratch and bite marks all over my arms.

then he'd lick me as if he was sorry.

He was just drinking your blood.

593 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:44am

re: #575 pingjockey

There's a few here in North Central Wa. Look damn funny next to a farmers F250! We are talking about those egg shaped electric cars, right?

These are the Smart cars.

594 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:46am

re: #572 KenJen

Ask Mandy when you see her. She knows all about it.

ok

595 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:47am

re: #569 turn

I don't think so, but it's been a long time. Why, do cats like olives?

Some cats go wild for green olives. I had one who would hook an olive onto a claw, roll onto his back and then rub the olive all over his head. He looked stoned. Then, he'd eat it and look even more stoned. Some Lizards reported similar behavior in some of their cats.

596 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:05am

re: #583 CapeCoddah

Reine... if you are reading, check your e-mail. I just sent recipes to you for fish, molasses cookies and brandied peaches.

fish molasses cookies? Gross

597 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:08am

re: #591 albusteve

You're kidding, right?

598 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:27am

re: #586 irongrampa

He declined to visit Normandy so as not to "offend" the Germans.

ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

599 pbird  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:36am

re: #543 MandyManners

I hope someone turns his rotten ass into the SPCA in his area.

Way to be the center of the universe, even if yer not. Meaning the idiot who wants impose his picadillos on a cat.

600 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:37am

Re" Obama and the perfect photographic imre: #542 ciaospirit

Obama achieves defining TV shot in Iraq

President Barack Obama went for the defining television shot in Iraq and got it — pictures of hundreds of U.S. troops cheering wildly as he told them it was time for the Iraqis to take charge of their own future.

“The coming 18 months may pose a danger to Iraq, and the time has come to transfer ‘sovereignty’ to Iraqis to run their own affairs,” Obama said.

That transfer of sovereignty to Iraqis has been ongoing for quite a while now. What was completely missed by Obama was that 13 of 18 provinces are already completely under Iraqi control. This was a horrible insult to the troops by ignoring the tremendous work they have already accomplished.

601 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:40am

re: #597 Lincolntf

You're kidding, right?

no

602 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:51am

re: #578 Shug

I hate cats. they make me sneeze and they crap indoors

Every cat I ever had was an outdoor cat for those very reasons.

603 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:51am

re: #598 MandyManners

ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

are you surprised?

604 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:07am

re: #598 MandyManners

Yes.

605 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:12am

re: #602 turn

Every cat I ever had was an outdoor cat for those very reasons.


that's OK then.

606 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:24am

re: #573 lawhawk

Holy Frak! It's snowing here in Bergen County! Did Al Gore arrive here without my knowing?

You're from Jersey too. I haven't been back in over 25 years.

On the Smart car, I agree with most of what you said, but I do look at the car as a single person, and I also have spent enough time in Europe to have an affinity to those things. I love the mid-sized Mercedes that they have in Europe, and you can't even get them here.

But no, I am not looking for mandates. And right now, my 10 year old 1998 Chevy Prizm only has 76 thousand miles on it and gets about 35 miles a gallon. Oh, 97-98, they used a Toyota engine, figures.

607 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:25am

re: #593 lawhawk
Yep that's the ones. They make one with bench seats. The local cemetary is debating getting one for the senior citizens since the cemetary is on one helluva hill.

608 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:32am

re: #504 Kenneth

Every new day, Obama manages to appall me in new and wonderful ways.

Barack Obama rejects Normandy trip to avoid offending Germany

Gosh no, we don't want to "offend the Germans" by honoring the American soldiers who gave their lives on Omaha beach.

Amazing that you can read that article and spin it as disrespect to the US troops. The article says the French were pissed off because they thought the British were getting more face time with a popular POTUS and were upset the Normandy trip was not included.
The same article said the French were trying to get another bite at the apple by getting a June visit. The French care more about the press coverage then honoring our dead.

609 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:34am

re: #593 lawhawk

These are the Smart cars.

I'd love to drive one for the fun of it...big ass go kart!

610 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:51am

re: #583 CapeCoddah

Reine... if you are reading, check your e-mail. I just sent recipes to you for fish, molasses cookies and brandied peaches.

That reminds me, I must ask my mother for her recipe for "hermits" (the cookies, not the people). I guess for honesty's sake I should try to make them myself before submitting them as "my" recipe.

611 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:58am

I hope you are happy comment from Mandy in 5...4...3...2...1

612 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:15:09am

re: #578 Shug

I hate cats. they make me sneeze and they crap indoors


So do you.../

613 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:15:11am

Obama is so sensitive to foreigners that he now only officially offends America

614 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:15:19am

re: #212 Dustyvet

Hen lays green eggs

[Link: rpc.blogrolling.com...]

That has to do with the breed of chicken, according to the lady that gives us our eggs (Yes, there is a chicken involved somewhere in the process). We get green(ish) eggs from time to time. They aren't day-glo green, or hunter green, but the shells have a definite green tint to them.

615 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:15:29am

re: #465 Sharmuta
Good morning Sharm - "AG- you should be writing at National Review or something."
I agree 100% and if NRO had any brains (I know someone there reads LGF) they'd be printing AG's stuff tomorrow!

616 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:15:42am

re: #601 albusteve

Did I miss a link? He actually said that, or is someone inferring it?

617 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:15:55am

That is the prime reason I looked with disdain on his little jaunt to Iraq, to thank the troops.

Political expediency, nothing more.

What he said to them--just words.

618 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:16:10am

re: #609 albusteve

I'd love to drive one for the fun of it...big ass go kart!

Drive a Mini instead. Very fun!

619 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:16:12am

re: #582 Hengineer

I used to "rassle" with my cat and got scratch and bite marks all over my arms.

then he'd lick me as if he was sorry.

That reminds me of the best cat I ever had, named Jellybean. Actually it was turnspawns cat. That cat was so mellow you could literally pick him up by the head and he would just hang there limp as a noodle.

620 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:16:26am

re: #608 avanti

Amazing that you can read that article and spin it as disrespect to the US troops. The article says the French were pissed off because they thought the British were getting more face time with a popular POTUS and were upset the Normandy trip was not included.
The same article said the French were trying to get another bite at the apple by getting a June visit. The French care more about the press coverage then honoring our dead.

so what?...what's YOUR opinion?...you always quote polls or paper rags

621 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:16:43am

re: #609 albusteve

I'd love to drive one for the fun of it...big ass go kart!

I'd rather ride a mo-ped.

622 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:02am

re: #417 OldLineTexan

BTW, everyone should consider dinging it up.

I put her up to 85.

623 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:03am

re: #568 lawhawk

My biggest problem with all of the government intrusion is that they're trying a one-size fits all approach to driving, and people in cities have different needs from those in the suburbs, let alone those who are in the rural areas.

Not to worry! The Obama Administration's innovative Procrustes Program will ensure that we all have exactly the same needs.

And, good morning.

624 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:16am

re: #613 Shug

Obama is so sensitive to foreigners that he now only officially offends America

read the new VDH...he shreds BO on this very subject

625 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:19am

re: #608 avanti

You must be kidding.

626 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:33am

re: #586 irongrampa

He declined to visit Normandy so as not to "offend" the Germans.

I have nothing nice to say, so perhaps I should say nothing at all.

627 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:49am

re: #516 Desert Dog
Figured that but maybe a scarc would have helped point that out.
Jeesh ... the mullah/iman is rapping again.
Desert Dog I don't know if you were in the war(s) in Iraq or not. If so you will know what I mean.
Solve the cultural war? Give these people some peace and don't broadcast 5 times a day that they are unworthy and all life is suffering.

My take on it - and I am sticking to it.

628 ggt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:54am

Hey Lizards! It's Sunny and warmish in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

Did I hear there is fresh bread?

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

629 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:56am

I did my usual cruising of web sites this morning.
Hot Air has a clip of a caller to Rush (yesterday), which I heard. ("Quote of the day")
I usually take time to at least skim comments.
This one caught my eye:

It’s Charles from LGF: ‘I’ve been fighting Islamofascism for a long time. Those Nazi Republicans are always undermining it though. Like Bush bowing and receiving an award from the Saudi king. That’s why I have to defend and excuse Democrats when they do the same thing because if it wasn’t for Nazi types like Rush and Glenn Beck Democrats wouldn’t act this way. It’s Rush and Glenn’s fault I’m fighting the 100s of US military tortures and deaths of Islamofascists rather than the fascists themselves…’ Or something like that.

Sultry Beauty on April 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM

I find lots of things troublesome lately. Including the (obviously made up) comment above.

There is either a disinformation campaign going on about pretty much everybody I read/listen to, or the country is, indeed, going nuts.
I sense a disturbance in the Force.
This is clipped from Charles' last topic on Gingrich (which I haven't read):

Maybe I should forward all the hate mail I’ve received to Newt. He’s obviously a RINO, not a true conservative, bent on splitting the GOP apart, an Obama lover, unable to admit he’s wrong, a moron, a closet socialist, etc. etc. *

(Hat tip: Gus 802.)

* Verbatim quotes from the dozens of hate mails I’ve received for pointing out that G. W. Bush was just as obsequious to the Saudis as Barack Obama was

Your call. Sorry to negate morning Karma, etc.
People are at odds with friends, the nation seems preoccupied with what used to be trivial matters, and for the life of me I can't make any sense of it.
Luke 12:53 is what I'm sensing. I am not Christian, but neither am I blind and deaf.

630 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:00am

re: #595 MandyManners

Wild. One of my first cats Tiger actually liked to get stoned.

631 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:04am

Does anyone have a link to the story about that military-hating, fucking Commie bastard refusing to visit Normandy? I just cannot believe this. Not even he can be that fucking ignorant. Can he?

632 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:17am

re: #569 turn

I don't think so, but it's been a long time. Why, do cats like olives?

It gets them high, basically (at least some of them). A narcotic effect, similar to (but stronger than) catnip.

633 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:36am

I know there are probably some out there who don't care for Geert Wilders, but this recent speech is a good one:

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

His words about Ronald Reagan were quite good.

634 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:37am

re: #608 avanti

Amazing that you can read that article and spin it as disrespect to the US troops. The article says the French were pissed off because they thought the British were getting more face time with a popular POTUS and were upset the Normandy trip was not included.
The same article said the French were trying to get another bite at the apple by getting a June visit. The French care more about the press coverage then honoring our dead.

Not about the French, yo. It's about our TOTUS not respecting Americans.

635 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:38am

Out of here, headed to a Passover seder for tonight.

636 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:47am

re: #626 Sharmuta


I'll say it for you, if you don't mind. Just not here, don't wish to be banned.

637 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:19:18am

re: #482 Ford_Prefect GACK! I wouldn't be caught DEAD in one of those things! Egads, please don't tell me they sold very many of 'em!

638 CommonCents  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:19:25am

re: #517 Hengineer

Europeans have a market full of smaller cars, because of their smaller roads. Here in America, too many people like their cars and roads big and huge, so imagine a crash between a huge SUV and a smart car, who is going to win?

On that note of small cars in Europe, I saw or read in the last few months the history of the autos. It all boiled down to the width of 2 horses butts. It was 2 horses pulling a chariot (Romans) that blazed the first trails across Europe which predicated the width of carts (Middle Ages) and then the buggys and then the cars. I wish I could remember where I saw that.

639 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:19:25am

re: #631 MandyManners

Does anyone have a link to the story about that military-hating, fucking Commie bastard refusing to visit Normandy? I just cannot believe this. Not even he can be that fucking ignorant. Can he?


top spinoff link last 24 hrs

640 bolivar  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:19:27am

re: #631 MandyManners

Does anyone have a link to the story about that military-hating, fucking Commie bastard refusing to visit Normandy? I just cannot believe this. Not even he can be that fucking ignorant. Can he?

Yeah he can and is. I think he is so full of himself he cannot do otherwise. He is actually believing his own bullshit.

641 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:19:43am

re: #609 albusteve

I'd love to drive one for the fun of it...big ass go kart!

The biggest knock on those so far has been the wretched five-speed semi-automatic transmission. That and the fact that it's overpriced, for a two-seat car that doesn't get as good mileage as some four-seat cars that cost less. Showroom traffic in Smart centers has evaporated, as the novelty has worn off.

642 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:19:51am

re: #596 Ford_Prefect

fish molasses cookies? Gross

Har Har. Keep the fish well away from the cookies!

643 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:20:00am

re: #619 turn

That reminds me of the best cat I ever had, named Jellybean. Actually it was turnspawns cat. That cat was so mellow you could literally pick him up by the head and he would just hang there limp as a noodle.


I had a cat named scaredy and one named fraidy.

644 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:20:17am

re: #606 Walter L. Newton

I love the mid-sized Mercedes that they have in Europe, and you can't even get them here.

It also took a long time for the very practical-sized (for singles, DINKS or couples with one child) Audi A3 to get here. Kind of baffling.

645 HoosierHoops  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:20:26am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

646 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:20:27am

re: #641 Ward Cleaver

The biggest knock on those so far has been the wretched five-speed semi-automatic transmission. That and the fact that it's overpriced, for a two-seat car that doesn't get as good mileage as some four-seat cars that cost less. Showroom traffic in Smart centers has evaporated, as the novelty has worn off.

It doesn't have the "Smug" factor of the Prius.

647 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:20:48am

re: #600 Kenneth

Re" Obama and the perfect photographic im

That transfer of sovereignty to Iraqis has been ongoing for quite a while now. What was completely missed by Obama was that 13 of 18 provinces are already completely under Iraqi control. This was a horrible insult to the troops by ignoring the tremendous work they have already accomplished.

Indeed. He's missed the State Department reports, MNF-Iraq reports, and media reports on the success in Iraq to date in turning over control back to the Iraqis, including the so-called lost provinces, like Anbar.

The rest of the country will likely be handed over this year. Iraqi military units are drawing more front line operations to deal with the insurgent threat, but Obama thinks that the Iraqis still have to stand up? He must have missed the Awakening and the Surge (actually, he probably hoped both would fail since he continued to propose cut and run, but I digress).

648 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:01am

Mwahaha! Revrund Al and his nuts are going to Arizona to fuck with Sheriff Joe. That ought to be good.

649 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:13am

re: #600 Kenneth

Re" Obama and the perfect photographic im


That transfer of sovereignty to Iraqis has been ongoing for quite a while now. What was completely missed by Obama was that 13 of 18 provinces are already completely under Iraqi control. This was a horrible insult to the troops by ignoring the tremendous work they have already accomplished.

He got his photo opp and his sound bites. That's all he was looking for.

650 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:20am

re: #631 MandyManners

Does anyone have a link to the story about that military-hating, fucking Commie bastard refusing to visit Normandy? I just cannot believe this. Not even he can be that fucking ignorant. Can he?

Hey, there were many days on which Bush didn't visit Normandy, and that was exactly the same thing! Enough with the ODS!

/ducks

651 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:28am

re: #632 Occasional Reader

It gets them high, basically (at least some of them). A narcotic effect, similar to (but stronger than) catnip.

Really, I didn't know that. I'll have to try that on the MIL's cat. Well on second thought better not, that darn cat is really old.

652 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:32am

re: #635 Walter L. Newton

Out of here, headed to a Passover seder for tonight.

Chag sameach. I'll be going to one at a Chabad tonight, but I don't have to leave until much later.

653 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:35am

re: #634 Sharmuta

Not about the French, yo. It's about our TOTUS not respecting Americans.

Exactly. You do NOT miss that trip. You just don't. And to accept your version of events which has him doing so out of recognition of his own popularity is so offensive when compared to the sacrifices made at Normandy it is staggering.

654 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:41am

re: #646 Hengineer

"Smug" factor is driving the Toy to the local ice cream stand (for me).

655 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:54am

re: #641 Ward Cleaver

The biggest knock on those so far has been the wretched five-speed semi-automatic transmission. That and the fact that it's overpriced, for a two-seat car that doesn't get as good mileage as some four-seat cars that cost less. Showroom traffic in Smart centers has evaporated, as the novelty has worn off.

rifgt...not very innovative except for it's size...they look a little top heavy too. like they'd 'fall over' real easy

656 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:22:01am

"We went through the motions to placate President Sarkozy but giving special treatment to France was not on our agenda."

And then the official goes on to say that it would have been "special treatment" for Obama to spend time in Normandy. So it was all about Obama, of course. No consideration of both the reality and symbolism of one of the most hallowed battlegrounds in World and American history.

657 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:22:05am

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Normany trip...

658 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:22:13am

re: #608 avanti

Look, you stupid fucking idiot. The president of the United States of America should be more concerned about those who gave their lives to defeat totalitarianism than hurting the feelings of the living. Only a fucking narcissitic pig would even THINK about "face time" and press coverage for one country's leaders.

659 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:22:28am

re: #653 Bloodnok

Your version = Avanti's version (responding to Avanti)

PIMF

660 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:23:09am

re: #637 realwest

GACK! I wouldn't be caught DEAD in one of those things! Egads, please don't tell me they sold very many of 'em!

I see a few of them here in CT. Don't know how they do in the snow, but I wouldn't want to try it.

661 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:23:09am

re: #643 KenJen

I had a cat named scaredy and one named fraidy.

That's clever, never heard that. Maybe someday if turn gets another cat he's ripping you off.

662 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:23:13am

re: #627 LindaMarie

Figured that but maybe a scarc would have helped point that out.
Jeesh ... the mullah/iman is rapping again.
Desert Dog I don't know if you were in the war(s) in Iraq or not. If so you will know what I mean.
Solve the cultural war? Give these people some peace and don't broadcast 5 times a day that they are unworthy and all life is suffering.

My take on it - and I am sticking to it.

My oldest son's girlfriend is hoping to play for ASU next year. We all watched UCONN take apart a pretty good ASU team in the elite 8. I was impressed by their teamwork. UCONN has exceptional talent, no doubt, but it's the way they functioned as a team that blew me away. They destroyed ASU

I was not in the military, but I have studied it all my life

663 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:23:36am

re: #657 VioletTiger

Oops, that was a mistake. wrong paste.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

664 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:23:37am

re: #630 turn

Wild. One of my first cats Tiger actually liked to get stoned.

I knew a guy once who talked about how they got the dog in their college dorm high. They put him in a big cooler (the kind with a spigot on the end, for draining off the water) and blew smoke into the open spigot.

665 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:01am

re: #642 CapeCoddah

Har Har. Keep the fish well away from the cookies!

I know you Cape people like your seafood, but that would be a little bit much.

666 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:01am

re: #649 VioletTiger

He got his photo opp and his sound bites. That's all he was looking for.

Yes. Remember when he didn't meet the wounded troops at the hospital, it was because he couldn't take the press and photographers in with him.
He'll meet the troops if it gets him PR.
The only corps he has respect for is the press corps.

667 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:05am

re: #645 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

heh hoops! Fine, and I was glad goddess got 7 mil when I saw that this AM.

668 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:11am

Gaze is my friend.

669 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:51am

re: #631 MandyManners

Does anyone have a link to the story about that military-hating, fucking Commie bastard refusing to visit Normandy? I just cannot believe this. Not even he can be that fucking ignorant. Can he?

You guys are making Beck look like a moderate. Here's a quote from the link and the link.

"Mr Obama will arrive in Strasbourg on Friday for the Nato summit. He will hold a meeting with Mr Sarkozy and a brief press appearance in Strasbourg and then fly to Baden-Baden to do exactly the same with Chancellor Merkel of Germany. He will then fly to Prague on Saturday.

Mr Sarkozy is said by French officials to be piqued that Gordon Brown became the first European leader to meet Mr Obama and was then lavished with praise by him at a 50-minute joint press conference in London on Wednesday.
Obama was trying to spread the unicorn and rainbow stuff fairly between the allies, and the French felt they deserved more.

Read the link and show me where it talks about disrespecting the fallen troops.

French

670 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:17am

re: #648 pingjockey

Mwahaha! Revrund Al and his nuts are going to Arizona to fuck with Sheriff Joe. That ought to be good.

Revruuund (channeling Rush)

671 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:25am

re: #644 Occasional Reader

It also took a long time for the very practical-sized (for singles, DINKS or couples with one child) Audi A3 to get here. Kind of baffling.

That's because most Americans equate small with cheap. It's an uphill battle for small luxury cars (like the Audi A2 or A1, or the Mercedes-Benz A-Class).

672 HoosierHoops  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:28am

I'm having issues with LGF this morning..Everytime I click new comments I get sent to the top of the page.
I'll see you fine lizards later today.

673 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:54am

re: #504 Kenneth
From your link:

"It wasn't going to happen," said an American official in Washington. "We went through the motions to placate President Sarkozy but giving special treatment to France was not on our agenda.


I suppose it never occured to those motherfuckers that what Obama would have been doing was giving "special treatment" to some of the finest American Warriors ever, those responsible for victory over Hitler, did it?
Worst President ever and I say that knowing full well he's got 3+ years to prove me wrong - I'll take all bets NOW.

674 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:26:26am

re: #656 Lincolntf

"We went through the motions to placate President Sarkozy but giving special treatment to France was not on our agenda."

And then the official goes on to say that it would have been "special treatment" for Obama to spend time in Normandy. So it was all about Obama, of course. No consideration of both the reality and symbolism of one of the most hallowed battlegrounds in World and American history.

"Why is everyone making such a big deal about Normandy? What happened there?"
-Obama

675 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:26:27am

re: #568 lawhawk

let alone those who are in the rural areas.

You do realize, don't you, that those of us hickish enough to actually live outside the sainted perfection of the cities are just a bunch of redneck, racist, cousin-humping, jew-killing, yeehaw-shouting goobers?

And those are the good points.

If I were youse guys, I wouldn't venture off the pavement. No telling what you might run into.

676 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:26:35am

re: #648 pingjockey

Mwahaha! Revrund Al and his nuts are going to Arizona to fuck with Sheriff Joe. That ought to be good.

Al's going to look really good in pink underwear, in the tent city.

/brain bleach!

677 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:26:38am

re: #671 Ward Cleaver

That's because most Americans equate small with cheap. It's an uphill battle for small luxury cars (like the Audi A2 or A1, or the Mercedes-Benz A-Class).

Then I'm un-American... I loves me some Audi TT.

678 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:31am

re: #669 avanti

You don't get it. GAZE

679 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:31am

re: #512 J.D.
Yes, I've considered everything but there's a remote chance it's connected to the prostate cancer so I'm waiting for some tests I'm taking on the 16th of this month to make any decisions about the back. Meanwhile I'll just bitch and moan about it!

680 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:33am

re: #658 MandyManners

Look, you stupid fucking idiot. The president of the United States of America should be more concerned about those who gave their lives to defeat totalitarianism than hurting the feelings of the living. Only a fucking narcissitic pig would even THINK about "face time" and press coverage for one country's leaders.

some people here are deep into poll/MSM driven AmIdol politics...patriotism is toxic to them...ass licking droolers

681 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:45am

re: #655 albusteve

rifgt...not very innovative except for it's size...they look a little top heavy too. like they'd 'fall over' real easy

They have roll stability control built in.

682 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:28:00am

re: #664 Ward Cleaver

I knew a guy once who talked about how they got the dog in their college dorm high. They put him in a big cooler (the kind with a spigot on the end, for draining off the water) and blew smoke into the open spigot.

That's not right, in fact that's an evil thing to do.

683 Golem Akbar  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:28:07am

Good morning and boker tov to all Lizards. Happy Passover to you of Semitic persuasion. Tonight we host the "/whole fam damily" to our seder, and I'm getting ready. It's starting to rain frogs, so...bbl.

684 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:28:22am

re: #669 avanti

You guys are making Beck look like a moderate. Here's a quote from the link and the link.

"Mr Obama will arrive in Strasbourg on Friday for the Nato summit. He will hold a meeting with Mr Sarkozy and a brief press appearance in Strasbourg and then fly to Baden-Baden to do exactly the same with Chancellor Merkel of Germany. He will then fly to Prague on Saturday.

Mr Sarkozy is said by French officials to be piqued that Gordon Brown became the first European leader to meet Mr Obama and was then lavished with praise by him at a 50-minute joint press conference in London on Wednesday.
Obama was trying to spread the unicorn and rainbow stuff fairly between the allies, and the French felt they deserved more.

Read the link and show me where it talks about disrespecting the fallen troops.

French

How about the headline: "Obama rejects Normandy trip to avoid offending Germany".

685 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:29:49am

re: #682 turn

That's not right, in fact that's an evil thing to do.

I know.

686 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:29:51am

re: #662 Desert Dog

My oldest son's girlfriend is hoping to play for ASU next year. We all watched UCONN take apart a pretty good ASU team in the elite 8. I was impressed by their teamwork. UCONN has exceptional talent, no doubt, but it's the way they functioned as a team that blew me away. They destroyed ASU

I was not in the military, but I have studied it all my life

They are the consummate team. If you watch them play you will every player hustle, dive for balls on the floor, pass the ball to open teammates and rush to help a fellow player up off the floor.

687 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:30:17am

Gonna refrain from further comment on the matter.

688 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:30:22am

re: #535 jorline
Hey jorline - yes I did get your e-mail and thank you!
I'm doing ok today I guess, just a backache for a change!
Hope you're doing well my friend.

689 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:30:32am

re: #681 Ward Cleaver

They have roll stability control built in.

that's no fun...how do you get it up on two wheels then?...bah

690 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:31:19am

re: #641 Ward Cleaver

The biggest knock on those so far has been the wretched five-speed semi-automatic transmission. That and the fact that it's overpriced, for a two-seat car that doesn't get as good mileage as some four-seat cars that cost less. Showroom traffic in Smart centers has evaporated, as the novelty has worn off.

I was rather surprised to see the SmartCar, darling of urban liberals, absolutely TRASHED in not just one, but two New York Times car reviews. (Which I saw on dead trees, so sorry, no link.)

691 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:31:19am

Wishing all of my Jewish Lizard pals a blessed Passover.
I have a laptop down today, so I am either going to either do a clean reinstall of all software, or trade up. See you all later.

692 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:31:26am

re: #638 CommonCents

On that note of small cars in Europe, I saw or read in the last few months the history of the autos. It all boiled down to the width of 2 horses butts. It was 2 horses pulling a chariot (Romans) that blazed the first trails across Europe which predicated the width of carts (Middle Ages) and then the buggys and then the cars. I wish I could remember where I saw that.

It also has to do with the width of train tracks and, if carried to it's logical absurdity, the size of the booster rockets used to get the space shuttle up are determined by the standard width of two horses' behinds.

693 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:31:56am

Obama should have gone to Normandy anyway. I think the Germans would have understood.

Let's see if he goes in June. It'll be 65 years this year, and one of the last anniversaries for surviving veterans.

694 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:32:01am

re: #675 razorbacker

You do realize, don't you, that those of us hickish enough to actually live outside the sainted perfection of the cities are just a bunch of redneck, racist, cousin-humping, jew-killing, yeehaw-shouting goobers?

And those are the good points.

If I were youse guys, I wouldn't venture off the pavement. No telling what you might run into.

I got your sarc without the tag.

Funny. I live in what is, for Massachusetts, a redneck area. And I am a Jew, and don't usually shout yee-haw.
But still, there is hunting in the area; the next town has a big gun store and mine has a rod and gun club.
Unfortunately, we still keep electing Democrats, but that has something to do with being in the same district as the yuppie town of Acton.

695 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:32:16am

re: #665 Ford_Prefect

I know you Cape people like your seafood, but that would be a little bit much.

LOL, There was a comma between fish and cookie! I swear!

696 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:32:30am

re: #637 realwest

GACK! I wouldn't be caught DEAD in one of those things! Egads, please don't tell me they sold very many of 'em!

I agree, for safety reasons alone.
My take on the big 3's grief is different. IMHO, a combination of:
1. Lack of competition; and,
2. Planned obsolescence;
is what sustained the big 3 for so many years.
It meant that most folks were replacing their vehicles after 4 or 5 years, which kept the factories hopping.

But ever since the competition from cheap, durable imports (mainly the Japanese) forced Detroit to extend the lifetime of the US product from 4 or 5 years to close to double that, the writing has been on the wall.
It meant that folks were buying vehicles much less often, which in the past number of years has drastically reduced the demand, regardless of increases in fuel efficiency.

Even the Japanese manufacturers have now fallen victim to the high quality of their own products.

Oh irony of ironies - good is bad.

697 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:33:13am

re: #690 Occasional Reader

I was rather surprised to see the SmartCar, darling of urban liberals, absolutely TRASHED in not just one, but two New York Times car reviews. (Which I saw on dead trees, so sorry, no link.)

It's not a bad car overall, it just costs too much for what you get, and the complaints about the transmission need to be addressed.

698 badger1970  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:33:23am

re: #693 Ward Cleaver

He won't take the chance of being compared to President Reagan.

699 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:33:54am

re: #641 Ward Cleaver

The biggest knock on those so far has been the wretched five-speed semi-automatic transmission. That and the fact that it's overpriced, for a two-seat car that doesn't get as good mileage as some four-seat cars that cost less. Showroom traffic in Smart centers has evaporated, as the novelty has worn off.

I've heard that liberals quit buying them because there is not enough room on the back for all their bumperstickers.

700 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:33:56am

re: #693 Ward Cleaver

Obama should have gone to Normandy anyway. I think the Germans would have understood.

Let's see if he goes in June. It'll be 65 years this year, and one of the last anniversaries for surviving veterans.

he'll go but only because he is getting pounded now...he does not govern...he reads polls and pundits to shape his image...you knew that of course

701 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:33:58am

SNowing in Manhattan.

702 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:34:00am

re: #625 J.D.

You must be kidding.

I just don't get the amount of hate that some must have to spin a story like that as our POTUS disrespecting the troops. The link talks about petty jealousies between the allies over time with BHO, and how the administration tried to give each one equal time.
I am convinced if he had gone to Normandy, you'd be ranting about him using our fallen troops for a TV moment. Not I see the Beck thought process. Assume the worst possible spin on any action by the POTUS, then spin the facts to fit. At least the bow was a real fuck up, worth a shout out, but this is crap.

703 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:34:12am

re: #692 razorbacker

It also has to do with the width of train tracks and, if carried to it's logical absurdity, the size of the booster rockets used to get the space shuttle up are determined by the standard width of two horses' behinds.

According to Bob Baffert, the horses with the largest behinds are the best racehorses.

/just sayin'

704 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:34:14am

re: #698 badger1970

He won't take the chance of being compared to President Reagan.


His teleprompter has no equal

/

705 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:34:49am

re: #669 avanti


"You guys are making Beck look like a moderate. Here's a quote from the link and the link."

That's what got the bloody down ding for you. Besides living in a country where the Prime Ministers Office has been distinctly anti-military for most of my life, I can recognize the signs easier then you. But I will say this much. At least our most anti-military PM PET visited graveyards and went to memorials.

706 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:35:30am

Iranians are charging an American with espionage.

Somali pirates seized an American vessel.

Can you feel the love of hope and change?

Morning Honcos!

707 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:35:34am

re: #669 avanti

You guys are making Beck look like a moderate.

Seriously- fuck you for saying that.

708 Macker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:35:35am

Please Lizards, I'm in a crappy mood today. Someone cheer me up:

709 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:35:47am

re: #608 avanti You really are a piece of work you know that?
Did it EVER EVEN OCCUR to you that the insult was to our DEAD SOLDIERS? See my #673, Obama had no plans to go to Normandy AT ALL.

710 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:36:11am

As was mentioned above, obambi better go in June. It will be the last anniversary most of the vets will see.

711 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:36:18am

re: #702 avanti

I just don't get the amount of hate that some must have to spin a story like that as our POTUS disrespecting the troops. The link talks about petty jealousies between the allies over time with BHO, and how the administration tried to give each one equal time.


It's not about Obama, believe it or not. It's about honoring our war heroes.
I don't hate Obama...yet. But I'm inching closer.

712 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:36:23am

re: #669 avanti

You come in here emptying your Obama slop jar all over us ... stfu ... every day an excuse for Obama ... everyday single day ... you think because Beck was criticized on this blog it is okay for you to compare us to Beck ... you play those games just like Obama camp ... you swirl around your words so it seems like you are somewhat aligned with us ... you do not fool me ... I was democrat most of my life ... I recognize what you do ...

713 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:36:59am

re: #702 avanti

I just don't get the amount of hate that some must have to spin a story like that as our POTUS disrespecting the troops. The link talks about petty jealousies between the allies over time with BHO, and how the administration tried to give each one equal time.
I am convinced if he had gone to Normandy, you'd be ranting about him using our fallen troops for a TV moment. Not I see the Beck thought process. Assume the worst possible spin on any action by the POTUS, then spin the facts to fit. At least the bow was a real fuck up, worth a shout out, but this is crap.

of course you don't get it...you state the obvious well...it's not about France or Germany or the media...if stupid were a country you'd be China..."I don't get it"...whaaa!

714 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:37:01am

re: #669 avanti

Read the link and show me where it talks about disrespecting the fallen troops.

I read the link.

The mere fact that he did not visit the dead is the disrespect.

Ah, nutz. I'm not gonna' waste my time with this.

You're one of those I posted about last fall who would not care if FCBBHO had sex with a goat in the National Mall.

716 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:37:52am

re: #669 avanti
Pound sand, go piss up a rope, etc...He's in France. Take a couple of hours and do the right thing. Go to Normandy!

717 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:37:53am

re: #700 albusteve

he'll go but only because he is getting pounded now...he does not govern...he reads polls and pundits to shape his image...you knew that of course

I imagine the 0 going to revisit how his grandfather swam across the English channel after his ship was sunk, and then, single-handedly captured a German pillbox and turned the guns against the other pillboxes, while rescuing some Jews that the Germans were holding prisoner before taking to the camps, and how he made a raft of parts from shot-up landing craft and paddled the Jews to safety in England, before going and liberating all the concentration camps.

And of course, the 0 would have to do this while re-enacting the landing while it gets filmed in high-def.

718 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:37:55am

re: #697 Ward Cleaver

It's not a bad car overall, it just costs too much for what you get, and the complaints about the transmission need to be addressed.

We are starting to see these all over the Cape, I saw 4 in Boston yesterday. I test drove one 2 years ago when my Mercedes dealer had them in the showroom. It is a golf cart with a roof. You are literally sitting with the engine 4 inched from your back. The wheels would fit a rider mower and there is no room to make a mistake or you are dead. I still bought the R-350. I prefer the 19 inch wheels and the 7k pounds of car around me.

719 bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:00am

re: #702 avanti

Visiting Normandy has NOTHING to do with diplomacy or international relations. It has nothing to do with who the President is or how high his approval ratings are. It has only to do with honoring the fallen. This is where the military comes in. But you'll not see that, will you...

720 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:10am

re: #658 MandyManners

Look, you stupid fucking idiot. The president of the United States of America should be more concerned about those who gave their lives to defeat totalitarianism than hurting the feelings of the living. Only a fucking narcissitic pig would even THINK about "face time" and press coverage for one country's leaders.

OK - at risk of getting beheaded here.
Mandy Manners you have been a part of this community much longer then I have and I know everyone admires you and values your comments as do I.
Could you please use the f word less often? No I will not type it out because I find it offensive not because I am being coy.

I know your anger but there are better ways to write it. Maybe. Off to Google to find out other words.

721 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:13am

re: #702 avanti

Uh-oh, the "hate" monster is gnawing away at you again isn't it, Avanti? It's "hate" that makes us point out that the story says exactly what the headline says? It takes "hate" to read the words of Obama's own staff? You must be getting really frazzled if all you can see is "hate" when someone disagrees with your swooning adulation of Obama.

722 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:16am

re: #706 jcm

Iranians are charging an American with espionage.

Somali pirates seized an American vessel.

Can you feel the love of hope and change?

Morning Honcos!

A wee bit of good news:

Three "militants" in Pakistan get a visit from Mr. Predator.

I think even a SmartCar wouldn't have saved them.

723 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:30am

Oh please.

Explain to me how The One was able to look into ONE Iraqi citizen's eyes, speak to any Iraqi politician, any Iraqi soldier and especially any American soldier when he position was and is that Saddam Hussein should still be in power.

724 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:46am

re: #677 Occasional Reader

Then I'm un-American... I loves me some Audi TT.

Different issue. That's considered a sports car. For the purposes of small = cheap (which has been in the psyche since the 1920s), it is usually the sedans we talk about.

725 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:53am

They're going to have to redesign the Smart car to make it desirable to 'Murricans.

You can't mount a gun rack anywhere on the damned thing, and if you could, both the muzzle and the stock would be sticking out the edges.

You can't fit a set of Super Swampers on it to save your life. What good is a vehicle that you can't get jacked up into the air, anyway?

You can only carry your dog, or your girlfriend. One of them is going to be pissed, and my girlfriend bites when annoyed.

There's no room for a really thumping sound system. What's driving without sharing your new rap album with the rest of the world?

Gonna be a tough sell.

726 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:39:14am

re: #717 Kosh's Shadow

I imagine the 0 going to revisit how his grandfather swam across the English channel after his ship was sunk, and then, single-handedly captured a German pillbox and turned the guns against the other pillboxes, while rescuing some Jews that the Germans were holding prisoner before taking to the camps, and how he made a raft of parts from shot-up landing craft and paddled the Jews to safety in England, before going and liberating all the concentration camps.

And of course, the 0 would have to do this while re-enacting the landing while it gets filmed in high-def.

take that bet amigo...ha!

727 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:01am

re: #723 Ben Hur

Oh please.

Explain to me how The One was able to look into ONE Iraqi citizen's eyes, speak to any Iraqi politician, any Iraqi soldier and especially any American soldier when he position was and is that Saddam Hussein should still be in power.

Damn fine question.

728 Shug  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:04am

I just saw this telegram

Avanti. stop. piss off. stop

729 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:28am

re: #669 avanti

Try this one on:

But perhaps most damaging for the Administration domestically is President Obama's failure to visit the American Cemetery in Normandy. During the campaign, Obama was heavily criticized for cancelling a planned visit to the U.S. military hospital in Ramstein, Germany, for a meeting with wounded troops. Skipping a visit to the cemetery could spark similar criticism. Moreover, the White House would not comment on whether President Obama will attend the ceremonies for the 65th anniversary of the D-Day landings in June, although a Sarkozy aide said Obama has agreed to the trip. So it remains unclear whether President Obama will get another chance to honor the 9,387 American soldiers buried there.

It is becoming clear, however, that there is tension between Obama and Sarkozy, despite French denials. Sarkozy has been critical of Obama's foreign policy ideas, especially with respect to Iran's nuclear programs. White House officials are not commenting, but they are also not going out of their way to quell the rumors. President Obama campaigned on a promise to reestablish relationships with American allies. So far, though, the relationship with France, and his personal relationship with Sarkozy, appears to be deteriorating with each new report.

That's based on a Telegraph report noting the following:

French officials and senior American military officers walked with White House staff through the cemetery discussing how the two presidents might follow the same route. But even before their trip, the White House had decided that Mr Obama would not travel there this week.

"It wasn't going to happen," said an American official in Washington. "We went through the motions to placate President Sarkozy but giving special treatment to France was not on our agenda.

Special treatment to the French? How about proper respects to US servicemembers who gave their lives to liberate Europe? Did that not enter into it?

That said, the President did make time to visit Baghdad and the troops stationed there. Those troops vote. The dead (usually) do not.

730 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:39am

re: #720 LindaMarie

OK - at risk of getting beheaded here.
Mandy Manners you have been a part of this community much longer then I have and I know everyone admires you and values your comments as do I.
Could you please use the f word less often? No I will not type it out because I find it offensive not because I am being coy.

I know your anger but there are better ways to write it. Maybe. Off to Google to find out other words.

Umm, Mandy, don't change a thing. We need you exactly as you are.

731 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:45am

re: #723 Ben Hur

Krauthammer last night:

He is Commander in Chief, and he knows he's responsible, and he will be held responsible for the future of Iraq.

I think what he did was necessary, but in a way it was a way to undo what he did in Europe, where he referred to Iraq in one of his speeches as a distraction. If you have a loved one who died in Iraq or who is now risking a life in Iraq, and your commander in chief is calling the effort a distraction, it's a bit of a blow.

And I think overall he did increase his own popularity in Europe, but that's easy to do if you do it at the expense of your country.

To various degrees of directness or obliqueness, he held America guilty for a range of offenses, a partial list of which includes arrogance, having caused the financial crisis, torture, genocide, racism, Hiroshima — he didn't even leave that one out — Guantanamo, of course, an insufficient respect for the Muslim world.

And as we say, what did he get in return? On Afghanistan troops, nothing. On stimulus in Europe, nothing. And on Guantanamo, what did he get? The French offered to take one prisoner. Now, you'd think that is an attempt at Gallic humor. It was a serious offer. I guess the guy that comes out of Guantanamo will have to leave his swim buddy behind.

732 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:47am

re: #658 MandyManners

Look, you stupid fucking idiot. The president of the United States of America should be more concerned about those who gave their lives to defeat totalitarianism than hurting the feelings of the living. Only a fucking narcissitic pig would even THINK about "face time" and press coverage for one country's leaders.

So how's your blood pressure?

Just kidding {Mandy}, you tell 'em!

733 Macker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:58am

re: #720 LindaMarie

She could choose to use the 150,000-year-old variant.

734 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:41:33am

re: #698 badger1970

He won't take the chance of being compared to President Reagan.

Reagen and the "0" will be forever linked, Best/Worst President polls and all.

735 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:41:47am

re: #722 Occasional Reader

A wee bit of good news:

Three "militants" in Pakistan get a visit from Mr. Predator.

I think even a SmartCar wouldn't have saved them.

SmartCar is sooo yesterday!
PUMA is the new hottness!

736 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:41:47am

re: #725 razorbacker

You can't mount a gun rack anywhere on the damned thing, and if you could, both the muzzle and the stock would be sticking out the edges.

It's designed for smart, compact European guns, silly! An FN P90 would fit in it quite nicely, for instance.

737 bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:41:57am

re: #719 bloodnok

Sorry, heroes of Normandy, the President has already met his quota of face-time with the French President and can't pay his respects. Maybe we'll fit you in during the next visit. /

738 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:04am

Later folks, off to the salt mines!

739 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:09am

re: #725 razorbacker

They're going to have to redesign the Smart car to make it desirable to 'Murricans.

You can't mount a gun rack anywhere on the damned thing, and if you could, both the muzzle and the stock would be sticking out the edges.

You can't fit a set of Super Swampers on it to save your life. What good is a vehicle that you can't get jacked up into the air, anyway?

You can only carry your dog, or your girlfriend. One of them is going to be pissed, and my girlfriend bites when annoyed.

There's no room for a really thumping sound system. What's driving without sharing your new rap album with the rest of the world?

Gonna be a tough sell.

And for the more urban view, it's too small to carry enough of the gang to have a proper drive-by shooting, and the guns would be sticking out of the windows on the way, giving your targets warning so they could shoot back.

740 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:16am

re: #542 ciaospirit

Ciao that is an accomplishment... A PICTURE.

Symbolism is part of leadership but pictures, as we all know are not accomplishments


Follow up note- as you Charles imposes a "tyrannical" 3950 character limit on my posts. It may say 4k but I have had to restitch any number of pieces to fit and the practical limit is 3950, add false advertising to Mr. Johnson's bill of particulars.

I would have like to have had room to go into the relevant points about bankruptcy. Conceptually, bankruptcies allow companies to reform after failure. GM has indeed failed, the issue simply this- no car company has EVER come back from a bankruptcy. This does not mean they can't but this fact weighed very heavily in the mind of car guy Rick Waggoner.

Now Obama is a lawyer; perhaps he took time from his Alinsky studies to learn something about business but as lawyers we are taught that bankruptcy is good. This lawyer believes the businessman because legal theories are lovely, actual commercial outcomes are the hard steel of reality.

By the way, there is still time to bless the sun this morning. Today is the 207th 28 year cycle of the creation of the sun.

741 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:45am

re: #714 MandyManners

You're one of those I posted about last fall who would not care if FCBBHO had sex with a goat in the National Mall.

Now that is just not fair Mandy. Of course he would care. It would be an historic occasion. No POTUS would ever have satisfied a goat so well. And when the sheep asked for equal time he would be happy to oblige.

/

742 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:46am

re: #725 razorbacker

They're going to have to redesign the Smart car to make it desirable to 'Murricans.

You can't mount a gun rack anywhere on the damned thing, and if you could, both the muzzle and the stock would be sticking out the edges.

You can't fit a set of Super Swampers on it to save your life. What good is a vehicle that you can't get jacked up into the air, anyway?

You can only carry your dog, or your girlfriend. One of them is going to be pissed, and my girlfriend bites when annoyed.

There's no room for a really thumping sound system. What's driving without sharing your new rap album with the rest of the world?

Gonna be a tough sell.

Yesterday driving home.

A Prius with pimped wheels.

It had me laughing most of the rest of the way home.

743 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:49am

re: #716 pingjockey

Pound sand, go piss up a rope, etc...He's in France. Take a couple of hours and do the right thing. Go to Normandy!


Indeed.
In addition to honoring the sacrifice of so many, he would have been also giving a subtle reminder to the French, many of whom have somehow forgotten this huge event. This was a crucial battle, maybe THE battle, for the free world. It's huge.

744 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:53am

re: #674 Ford_Prefect

"Why is everyone making such a big deal about Normandy? What happened there?"
-Obama

That is enough to make one cry.
What is the qoute? Those that do not remember History are doomed to repeat it.

745 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:55am

re: #712 JacksonTn

You come in here emptying your Obama slop jar all over us ... stfu ... every day an excuse for Obama ... everyday single day ... you think because Beck was criticized on this blog it is okay for you to compare us to Beck ... you play those games just like Obama camp ... you swirl around your words so it seems like you are somewhat aligned with us ... you do not fool me ... I was democrat most of my life ... I recognize what you do ...

Then he shits on all of us by saying we make Beck look sane. I wonder if he has any other turd balls he'd like to toss at us while he sits their on his high horse sneering.

746 Colonel Panik  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:43:02am

re: #648 pingjockey

Mwahaha! Revrund Al and his nuts are going to Arizona to fuck with Sheriff Joe. That ought to be good.

Acorn is involved as well. This should get interesting. Acorn is also going to try to disrupt or counter protest the Tea Party here on the 15th.

747 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:43:12am

re: #720 LindaMarie

OK - at risk of getting beheaded here.
Mandy Manners you have been a part of this community much longer then I have and I know everyone admires you and values your comments as do I.
Could you please use the f word less often? No I will not type it out because I find it offensive not because I am being coy.

I know your anger but there are better ways to write it. Maybe. Off to Google to find out other words.

"fuck" is the new "heck".

748 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:43:24am

re: #620 albusteve

so what?...what's YOUR opinion?...you always quote polls or paper rags

I agree with the article. He was trying to balance the time with each country. The French wanted more TV time with BHO and that would piss off the others. He's considering coming back in June to give the French some TV time, then you can bitch that he's using the fallen troops for PR..

749 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:43:57am

re: #733 Macker

She could choose to use the 150,000-year-old variant.

Nah. "Fuck" has a long and colorful history, and only became "offensive" due to it being an Anglo-Saxon word after the Normans took over England in 1066. It's the same reason why we have the other following terms:
Cattle - Beef
Pig - Ham/Pork
Chicken - Poultry

750 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:44:10am

re: #729 lawhawk

...the President did make time to visit Baghdad and the troops stationed there. Those troops vote. The dead (usually) do not.


Priorities.

751 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:44:58am

re: #746 Colonel Panik

Acorn is involved as well. This should get interesting. Acorn is also going to try to disrupt or counter protest the Tea Party here on the 15th.

The good reverend will look spiffy in pink undies!

752 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:44:59am

re: #747 Spare O'Lake

"fuck" is the new "heck".

I like when Mandy uses the fuck word.

753 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:45:20am

re: #719 bloodnok

Visiting Normandy has NOTHING to do with diplomacy or international relations. It has nothing to do with who the President is or how high his approval ratings are. It has only to do with honoring the fallen. This is where the military comes in. But you'll not see that, will you...

And it's simply bizarre for the Obama staff to look at this as "oh, that would be an unfair amount of fact time for Sarko with Obama, and we can't have that." Utter narcissism - it's all about the greatness of the One. I'm counting the days until November 2012, when we can say to Obama, as Maximus did to Commodus, "the time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end."

754 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:45:31am

re: #742 jcm

Yesterday driving home.

A Prius with pimped wheels.

It had me laughing most of the rest of the way home.


Nooo!

755 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:45:45am

Well y'all sorry to leave this AVANTI thread, but I have some serious things to attend to. I hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road, except for Avanti - and Avanti you should be honored; of all the fools and Leftist apologetics we've had here in the 5+ years I've been here, you are the ONLY ONE I've ever excepted from my wish to see down the road.
You are so blinded by your need to defend Obama you just don't see what he does wrong - or if you do, you don't believe your own eyes.

756 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:45:53am

Plants would be wise to cover their ass after such a display.

757 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:45:58am

re: #744 LindaMarie

That is enough to make one cry.
What is the qoute? Those that do not remember History are doomed to repeat it.

And I have a bad feeling that This One is doomed to repeat history. Not entirely sure how yet, but so far, he seems to like the shoes of Herbert Hoover and FDR.

758 jorline  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:46:03am

re: #672 HoosierHoops

I'm having issues with LGF this morning..Every time I click new comments I get sent to the top of the page.
I'll see you fine lizards later today.

Morning Hoopster.

You have the "Barry Bug". This virus was unleashed on 01-20-09, it's a time released virus. The "Barry Bug" always sends you back to the beginning, you don't collect $200...although you may be eligible for limited TARP funds and the good news...it''s shared by everyone.
BTW...Due to your 2008 "Stimulus Check"...retro-active TARP funds...your new salary is 35K, determined by "The Peoples Government".
//

759 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:46:17am

re: #702 avanti

If Obama had a record of showing respect to US troops we might cut him a little more slack. If you bothered to note, several folks here praised Obama for going to Iraq to visit the troops. Good for him. Still, he could help himself by using the opportunity make a remark which totally dismissed the what the troops had already accomplished:

“The coming 18 months may pose a danger to Iraq, and the time has come to transfer ‘sovereignty’ to Iraqis to run their own affairs,” Obama said.

Obama is completely oblivious to the fact that 13 of the 18 Iraqi provinces have already been transferred to Iraqi military control, and that Iraq already has political sovereignty thanks to the sacrifices of the US troops. What a nice little "fuck you" from the Pretender in Chief!

760 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:46:17am

re: #748 avanti

I agree with the article. He was trying to balance the time with each country. The French wanted more TV time with BHO and that would piss off the others. He's considering coming back in June to give the French some TV time, then you can bitch that he's using the fallen troops for PR..

you are a total moron...sad but true, the olny poster I've ever said that to...imo you are a disgrace for an American

761 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:46:25am

re: #755 realwest

Well y'all sorry to leave this AVANTI thread, but I have some serious things to attend to. I hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road, except for Avanti - and Avanti you should be honored; of all the fools and Leftist apologetics we've had here in the 5+ years I've been here, you are the ONLY ONE I've ever excepted from my wish to see down the road.
You are so blinded by your need to defend Obama you just don't see what he does wrong - or if you do, you don't believe your own eyes.

Take care Real.

762 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:46:54am

re: #748 avanti

Poor Avanti, why so bitter? Don't you have a "GW Bush did the exact same thing!" story to make up?

763 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:47:06am

re: #748 avanti

I agree with the article. He was trying to balance the time with each country. The French wanted more TV time with BHO and that would piss off the others. He's considering coming back in June to give the French some TV time, then you can bitch that he's using the fallen troops for PR..

Nah. Will probably bitch that he's using the French for PR.

764 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:47:08am

re: #725 razorbacker

There's no room for a really thumping sound system.

No humping room either. How are the head cheerleader and the quarterback going to do their thing?

765 EricWRN  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:47:24am

re: #720 LindaMarie

I find it endearing!

766 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:47:33am

re: #740 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

No one wants to buy a car from a company that is near or in bankruptcy because they're afraid their investment will become worthless due to lack of warranty support or parts. That's why about the only thing I thing the government did right was to back GM's warranties.
It's one thing if my $500 TV breaks and I can't get it fixed, but quite another for a $20,000 car.

And I did bless the Sun this morning, even though I don't think Creation was 5769 years ago. If anyone is interested, here is more, including a PDF book of the service

767 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:47:52am

re: #764 Ford_Prefect

No humping room either. How are the head cheerleader and the quarterback going to do their thing?

Yoga classes?

768 ciaospirit  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:48:40am

re: #600 Kenneth

Re" Obama and the perfect photographic im

That transfer of sovereignty to Iraqis has been ongoing for quite a while now. What was completely missed by Obama was that 13 of 18 provinces are already completely under Iraqi control. This was a horrible insult to the troops by ignoring the tremendous work they have already accomplished.

Excellent reminder.

769 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:07am

re: #762 Lincolntf

Poor Avanti, why so bitter? Don't you have a "GW Bush did the exact same thing!" story to make up?

George W. Bush didn't visit Normandy this week EITHER!

///

770 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:20am

re: #762 Lincolntf

Poor Avanti, why so bitter? Don't you have a "GW Bush did the exact same thing!" story to make up?

perfect example of the unprincipled ignorance overwhelming this country...so stupid they don't understand they are the problem, not the solution...

771 justabill  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:22am

re: #142 gmsc

49!

(Sorry, habit.)

Nope, the answer is 49. 49! is much to large, roughly 6.082818640342675608722521633213e+62

772 jorline  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:30am

re: #688 realwest

Hey jorline - yes I did get your e-mail and thank you!
I'm doing ok today I guess, just a backache for a change!
Hope you're doing well my friend.

I'm well, thanks RW.

I just heard that the POTUS is going to have an announcement tomorrow on future military medical coverage.

773 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:47am

re: #769 Occasional Reader

George W. Bush didn't visit Normandy this week EITHER!

///

I'm sure he'd be more than happy to attend if he'd been invited.

774 bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:50:11am

re: #762 Lincolntf

Poor Avanti, why so bitter? Don't you have a "GW Bush did the exact same thing!" story to make up?

HEH!

775 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:50:18am

Obama should go to Normandy. He is passing up a great opportunity to make a crescent on the beach out of rocks!

776 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:50:42am

re: #753 Occasional Reader

And it's simply bizarre for the Obama staff to look at this as "oh, that would be an unfair amount of fact face time for Sarko with Obama, and we can't have that." Utter narcissism - it's all about the greatness of the One. I'm counting the days until November 2012, when we can say to Obama, as Maximus did to Commodus, "the time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end."


Bleah.

777 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:50:52am

re: #773 Sharmuta

I'm sure he'd be more than happy to attend if he'd been invited.

he should just show up in June...think about that, assuming BO does too

778 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:50:59am

Think about that- had the call gone out for President Bush to fill in at a memorial at Normandy- he would have done so in a heart beat.

779 opnion  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:51:15am

re: #669 avanti

Avati, your posts usually make my teeth itch , but in general I do not find you to be offensive, this is different unless you are missing the point.
To visit Normandy would not be a particular favor to Sarkozy. It would be to honor Americn dead & I believe that is what Sarkozy intended.
How could the Germans or the British be offended? This is just bull & there is a pattern, he blew off our wounded in Germany.
He had plenty of time to visit the Blue Mosque in Turkey, no matter who might be offended.
You really ought to rethink this, people lost grandfathers & fathers at Normandy.

780 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:52:16am

re: #759 Kenneth

Repost of my fisking the report yesterday.

Obama in Iraq...

A total of 4,265 U.S. troops have lost their lives in Iraq since March 2003, and Obama said American forces had "performed brilliantly ... under enormous strain."

Blame Bush!

"It's important for us to use all of our influence to encourage the parties to resolve these issues in ways that are equitable. I think that my presence here can help do that," he said.

Me! I did it! The troops have been strained!

Obama wore a business suit as he descended the steps of his plane after a flight from Turkey.

Bush wore Army workout jacket, or a flight jacket, Obama means business he wore a suit!

"We spend a lot of time trying to get Afghanistan right, but I think it is important for people to know that there is still a lot of work to do here," Obama said.

And we it does, I will take credit!

Shortly before leaving Turkey, the president held out Iraq as an example of the change he seeks in policies inherited from former President George W. Bush


The bad parts are Bush's fault!

781 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:52:48am

re: #740 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

as you Charles imposes a "tyrannical" 3950 character limit on my posts. It may say 4k but I have had to restitch any number of pieces to fit and the practical limit is 3950, add false advertising to Mr. Johnson's bill of particulars.

You're being facetious... right?

782 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:52:57am

You know, we were told that Obama would improve US relations with the world and how he was going to fix the mess caused by cowboy diplomacy. I guess that meme and the pundits were wrong.

He's busy snubbing Sarkozy for no good reason (snubbing the memory of fallen US servicemembers at the same time), and is busy kowtowing to the Saudis and ignoring the threats posed by our true enemies.

If anything, Obama is making our relations with our allies worse, and our enemies are licking their collective chops as they continue testing the Administration and finding that they can do pretty much as they like.

783 Former Belgian  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:53:08am

Time for the seder here. Happy pesach to all Jewish leta`im (=lizards), and an early happy Easter to the rest of you!

784 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:53:54am

Back to work.

785 ggt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:54:09am

re: #720 LindaMarie

OK - at risk of getting beheaded here.
Mandy Manners you have been a part of this community much longer then I have and I know everyone admires you and values your comments as do I.
Could you please use the f word less often? No I will not type it out because I find it offensive not because I am being coy.

I know your anger but there are better ways to write it. Maybe. Off to Google to find out other words.

Mandy can say whatever she f@cking wants.

786 Macker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:54:31am

re: #746 Colonel Panik

Not only that, I'm sure my inside source at Sheriff Joe's Office already knows about that bastard!

787 CommonCents  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:54:34am

re: #626 Sharmuta

I have nothing nice to say, so perhaps I should say nothing at all.

perpetuating the silent majority?

788 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:54:57am

Mass Shooting of the Week: 1 Dead, 3 injured at California Religious Retreat

Wait 2-3 days. There will be another.

Also, regarding the possible infiltration by ACORN and other leftist groups into upcoming "Tea Parties": The left in America has discovered both Taqiyya and kitman. Remember Ashley Todd? She was a Paulian (which, IMO, is by definition a Leftist pretending to be a Republican) pretending to be a Republican, who carved the letter "B" on her face, blamed it on a nonexistant black man, for, again - in my opinion, the express purpose of making Republicans look like racists. A google search of her name and the story will tell you that it worked. Most have forgotten (or never learned) that she was actually, just a couple months prior, a RonPaulian, and her action worked according to plan.

Then again, I am of the minority opinion that Ron Paul was itself an "infiltration" into the Republican party by leftists intent on destroying it.

789 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:55:39am

re: #693 Ward Cleaver

Obama should have gone to Normandy anyway. I think the Germans would have understood.

Let's see if he goes in June. It'll be 65 years this year, and one of the last anniversaries for surviving veterans.

I am refraining from bashing Obama until the anniversary. If he blows that off, then I'll bash him with my mental cosher. Until then, I will imagine that he dissed on Normandy this trip for time management purposes only.

790 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:55:44am

re: #606 Walter L. Newton

You're from Jersey too. I haven't been back in over 25 years.

I'm not from Jersey. I live in New Jersey. Own a home here. But I'm from Brooklyn.

791 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:55:50am

Some synonyms:
to fornicate (Televangelish)
to have conventional sex (psych)
to shtup (Yiddish)
to pork (juvenile)
to make the beast with two backs (Shakespeare)

792 Macker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:56:56am

re: #788 Taqiyyotomist

The working phrase is "Ronulan"...

793 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:57:20am

re: #791 Spare O'Lake

Some synonyms:
to fornicate (Televangelish)
to have conventional sex (psych)
to shtup (Yiddish)
to pork (juvenile)
to make the beast with two backs (Shakespeare)

don't forget 'hide the pickle'

794 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:57:37am

Did anyone see the video of Barney Frank being blindsided by a Harvard student yesterday asking him about his culpability in the meltdown? It was priceless.
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

795 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:57:40am

re: #720 LindaMarie

OK - at risk of getting beheaded here.
Mandy Manners you have been a part of this community much longer then I have and I know everyone admires you and values your comments as do I.
Could you please use the f word less often? No I will not type it out because I find it offensive not because I am being coy.

I know your anger but there are better ways to write it. Maybe. Off to Google to find out other words.

Don't read her posts ... don't read mine either when I use that word ... when I first came here someone said they didn't like to read my posts ... because I do this ... everybody is different ... it is what makes the world a more colorful place ... you have a scroll button on your keyboard ... I am dinging down your post in support of Mandy on this ...

796 Macker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:57:50am

re: #793 albusteve

Or "hide the sausage"...

797 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:57:59am

re: #789 Russkilitlover

I am refraining from bashing Obama until the anniversary. If he blows that off, then I'll bash him with my mental cosher. Until then, I will imagine that he dissed on Normandy this trip for time management purposes only.

I'm not buying that angle. As someone noted above, he had the time to visit a mosque in Turkey.

798 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:57:59am

re: #781 Occasional Reader

Well it does say 4000 character limit but try posting anything longer than 3950 and you are asking for the post to fail. 3943 is the biggest to ever have worked for me.

799 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:58:28am

re: #787 CommonCents

perpetuating the silent majority?

"It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt."
-Mark Twain

800 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:58:29am

re: #796 Macker

Or "hide the sausage"...

I'm a gherkin

801 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:58:33am

re: #744 LindaMarie

That is enough to make one cry.
What is the qoute? Those that do not remember History are doomed to repeat it.

I was going to reply about the
"Why is everyone making such a big deal about Normandy? What happened there?"
-Obama
"quote" , but you guys are so far off the tracks now, I'll leave for a bit and return when you calm down, have fun .

802 Colonel Panik  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:58:33am

re: #786 Macker

Not only that, I'm sure my inside source at Sheriff Joe's Office already knows about that bastard!

Joe was on J.D. Hayworth's show yesterday afternoon laughing about Sharpton.

803 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:58:41am

re: #783 Former Belgian

Happy Seder to you too!

804 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:59:03am

re: #792 Macker

The working phrase is "Ronulan"...

I prefer "deceptive piece of s**t", myself. Whatever works.

805 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:59:15am

re: #801 avanti

I was going to reply about the
"Why is everyone making such a big deal about Normandy? What happened there?"
-Obama
"quote" , but you guys are so far off the tracks now, I'll leave for a bit and return when you calm down, have fun .

So you will be back in ... 2012? ... just wondering ...

806 Macker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:59:17am

re: #801 avanti

Yay!

807 badger1970  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:59:41am

re: #791 Spare O'Lake

Van Halen's album, for unlawful carnal knowledge, Dick Francis substituted "effing" spelled e f f i n g in his novels.

Why use the f word when "dick head" or "dick weed" would service?

808 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:00:06am

re: #800 albusteve

I'm a gherkin

That's a Claussen for trouble.

809 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:00:09am

re: #801 avanti

I was going to reply about the
"Why is everyone making such a big deal about Normandy? What happened there?"
-Obama
"quote" , but you guys are so far off the tracks now, I'll leave for a bit and return when you calm down, have fun .

well lurk on this...fuck you you narrow minded Obot

810 Macker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:01:00am

re: #807 badger1970

That reminds me: Fornication Under Consent of the King...

811 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:01:11am

I wonder if Vegas has odds on the next mass shooting...location, number of casualties, minutes between event and MSM blaming guns and Republicans, that sort of thing.

812 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:01:32am

re: #807 badger1970

In The Naked and the Dead, the word "fug" and all of it's variations appears on just about every page. When I finished reading it the first time, I said "fug" for a week.

813 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:01:33am

re: #809 albusteve

well lurk on this...fuck you you narrow minded Obot

Avanti's now lurkin' and lurkin', but nothin's workin'.

814 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:02:05am

re: #808 Honorary Yooper

That's a Claussen for trouble.

don't be dill witted

815 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:02:35am

re: #814 albusteve

don't be dill witted

Hey, you gotta relish the moment.

816 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:02:36am
817 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:03:07am

re: #815 Honorary Yooper

Hey, you gotta relish the moment.

excellent

818 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:03:15am

re: #154 Sharmuta

I love Sesame Street Muppets as much as the regular Muppets.

Thank you! Everyone else, please don't bash Sesame Street! It taught me to read and (via The Count) to love math. Bert and Ernie rocked (and whatever they did together while the cameras weren't rolling, it's not my business).

If it's a "sacred cow" to liberals, that's a plus for liberals and not a problem for Sesame Street.

819 jorline  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:03:18am

re: #793 albusteve

don't forget 'hide the pickle'

Hide the pickle can be motivational as well.

820 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:03:35am

re: #812 Lincolntf

I prefer the word "Fugly" when describing pages like Townhall dot com, and the horrendously un-intelligently designed Atlas Shrugs site. Thank God Charles isn't colorblind and visually tone-deaf like so many web designers.

821 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:03:38am

re: #798 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Well it does say 4000 character limit but try posting anything longer than 3950 and you are asking for the post to fail. 3943 is the biggest to ever have worked for me.

Look... when I disagree with Charles about something, I make that known... but sheesh, AG, who's paying for that bandwidth again? 50 characters "short"? Come on.

822 opnion  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:03:51am

re: #801 avanti

I was going to reply about the
"Why is everyone making such a big deal about Normandy? What happened there?"
-Obama
"quote" , but you guys are so far off the tracks now, I'll leave for a bit and return when you calm down, have fun .


Dude, you piss in the well & then go somewhere else for a drink of water. Not cool.

823 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:04:53am

re: #819 jorline

Hide the pickle can be motivational as well.

I WANT YOUR PICKLE!

824 Spider Mensch  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:05:41am

re: #720 LindaMarie

OK - at risk of getting beheaded here.
Mandy Manners you have been a part of this community much longer then I have and I know everyone admires you and values your comments as do I.
Could you please use the f word less often? No I will not type it out because I find it offensive not because I am being coy.

I know your anger but there are better ways to write it. Maybe. Off to Google to find out other words.

oh boy I get to use a Big Lebowski scene quote...

Cowboy: hey Dude, I like you, but do ya think you could cut down on the cussing?
The Dude (perplexed): What the fuck are you talking about?
Cowboy (smiling): have it yer way dude...

825 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:05:46am

re: #794 CapeCoddah

Did anyone see the video of Barney Frank being blindsided by a Harvard student yesterday asking him about his culpability in the meltdown? It was priceless.
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

I saw it on Fox, as well as the "internets".
Barney sure got defensive over nothing, didn't he?

826 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:05:47am

re: #769 Occasional Reader

George W. Bush didn't visit Normandy this week EITHER!

///

Neither did Sarah Palin!

827 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:06:26am

re: #785 ggt

Mandy can say whatever she f@cking wants.

But I hope not in front of children
I stopped cursing when my (then) two year old child said "shit".
So we are not children here - but is ttat needed to make your point?
And the @ was not needed at all. The fucking got through and was posted.

828 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:06:48am

re: #826 Kenneth

Neither did Sarah Palin!

But she can see it from her house...

///

829 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:07:07am

re: #826 Kenneth

Neither did Sarah Palin!

Wasn't that Normandy where Bill and Hillary rediscovered their love for each other?

830 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:07:10am

re: #794 CapeCoddah

Did anyone see the video of Barney Frank being blindsided by a Harvard student yesterday asking him about his culpability in the meltdown? It was priceless.
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

Damn! Wish I had audio on this computer at work.

831 jorline  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:04am

re: #823 albusteve

I WANT YOUR PICKLE!

It's all about good customer service...lol

832 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:12am

re: #821 Occasional Reader

Look... when I disagree with Charles about something, I make that known... but sheesh, AG, who's paying for that bandwidth again? 50 characters "short"? Come on.

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

833 capitalist piglet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:13am

re: #782 lawhawk

You know, we were told that Obama would improve US relations with the world and how he was going to fix the mess caused by cowboy diplomacy. I guess that meme and the pundits were wrong.

He's busy snubbing Sarkozy for no good reason (snubbing the memory of fallen US servicemembers at the same time), and is busy kowtowing to the Saudis and ignoring the threats posed by our true enemies.

If anything, Obama is making our relations with our allies worse, and our enemies are licking their collective chops as they continue testing the Administration and finding that they can do pretty much as they like.

He's saving up his tough stuff for the real culprits.

///

Obama team readying for confrontation with Netanyahu

834 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:36am

re: #830 Russkilitlover

Just visualize Elmer Fudd caught with his hand in the cookie jar, the soundtrack is a natural.

835 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:49am

re: #801 avanti

Almost updinged that just because he said he was leaving.

836 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:57am

re: #788 Taqiyyotomist

I am of the minority opinion that Ron Paul was itself an "infiltration" into the Republican party by leftists intent on destroying it.

I don't think Luap Nor and his ilk are leftists; I think they're Bircher weirdos. Republicans are quite capable of fucking it up on their own without help from infiltrating trolls.

That said, I'm agreed the Republicans should treat them as if they were Democratic moles, or for that matter aliens from the planet Troll-Ob, and show them the door.

837 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:09:00am

re: #825 jwb7605

I saw it on Fox, as well as the "internets".
Barney sure got defensive over nothing, didn't he?

If I was that student, I would have walked out of the room. Stop avoiding the question, unless you have something to hide.

838 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:09:14am

re: #821 Occasional Reader

Look... when I disagree with Charles about something, I make that known... but sheesh, AG, who's paying for that bandwidth again? 50 characters "short"? Come on.

All your characters are belong to us!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

839 opnion  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:09:14am

re: #794 CapeCoddah

Did anyone see the video of Barney Frank being blindsided by a Harvard student yesterday asking him about his culpability in the meltdown? It was priceless.
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]


Yeah, it was a beautiful thing. The young man was on Gretta last night, smart kid.

840 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:09:41am

re: #832 Honorary Yooper

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

my essay posts are around three sentences

841 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:10:02am

via The Corner...
from The CATO Institute...

...Consider that 43% of American households do not pay any federal income tax, according to data from the Joint Committee on Taxation. That large group is doing little to support the huge burden of the welfare state, so it is laughable that they might be angry at the wealthy who do bear the burden. The CBO data show that the top one-fifth of households pay 69% of the entire costs of the federal government. Frankly, the rest of Americans are free-riders on the top quintile's enormous financial support of government.

In America, it is not rich and productive people that create resentment. Instead, it is corrupt politicians handing out special favours, it is the bungling bureaucrats we saw after Hurricane Katrina, and it is cabinet nominees who cheat on their taxes. Americans are not upset at wealthy Steve Jobs and his amazing innovations, but they are upset when they hear that global warming advocate Al Gore lives in a mansion that consumes 15 times more electricity than the average US home. It is hypocrisy, fraud and corruption that people do not like, not hard work and high incomes.

The main reason that we should not increase taxes on the rich is that most governments are far above their optimal size. Vito Tanzi, a former top economist at the International Monetary Fund, noted in a 2004 study: "All the theoretical reasons advanced by economists to justify the role of the state in the economy, including the need to assist the poor, could be satisfied with a much smaller share of spending of GDP than is now found in most industrial countries." Mr Tanzi found that bigger governments were not correlated with better human development indicators such as education achievement, infant mortality or life expectancy.

There are fundamental reasons why big governments do not work very well. As taxes rise, resources are shifted from more efficient private activities to less efficient government activities. The private sector is not more efficient than government because it does not make mistakes, but because it has mechanisms to purge mistakes and move resources to higher-valued uses. Government policymakers do the opposite: they retain failed programmes year after year, and resources get stuck in low-value uses. ...


Resenting the Rich

842 ciaospirit  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:10:39am

re: #608 avanti

Amazing that you can read that article and spin it as disrespect to the US troops. The article says the French were pissed off because they thought the British were getting more face time with a popular POTUS and were upset the Normandy trip was not included.
The same article said the French were trying to get another bite at the apple by getting a June visit. The French care more about the press coverage then honoring our dead.

Can I see that quote? Another avanti fantasy fact. And we care what the French think about as much as we care what you think. It was a deliberate decision on Obama's part. A trip to Normandy would have been a detour to his Apology Tour. Wouldn't fit the message.

He had also hoped Mr Obama would agree to a meeting before attending the G20 summit in London on April 3. The French had suggested that Mr Obama fly from London to Normandy on Friday morning for a stop before the Nato summit. Instead, he is going directly to Strasbourg.

According to French reports, Mr Obama was to visit the Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial at Colleville-sur-mer, just north of Omaha Beach. The pair were apparently to have dined at the nearby chateau de Bénouville in Caen.

The White House rejected the offer, but Mr Sarkozy's most senior aide said Mr Obama had agreed to come back in June for the 65th anniversary of the June 6th 1944, D-Day landings. A White House spokesman declined to comment on whether Mr Obama would travel to France in June.

843 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:10:52am

re: #812 Lincolntf

In The Naked and the Dead, the word "fug" and all of it's variations appears on just about every page. When I finished reading it the first time, I said "fug" for a week.

The Fuggs!

844 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:10:53am

re: #824 Spider Mensch
Point taken. Thank you.
I will cut and paste the qoute into daily life.

845 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:11:04am

I don't really understand avanti. Not just his pov, which isn't even on the same Continent as mine, but why he gets bashed and then comes back for more.

846 aussiemagpie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:11:20am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!

Party's over celebrating the 7 millionth comment? Good onya {Goddess}!

Don't forget another word, used here ...and one you in the US use quite freely!

R**T, which means something entirely different here, and not just for the bits of plants in the dirt :-)

When you use the word in the context of r**ting for a team, I always think that's going a little bit too far !

847 Macker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:11:34am

re: #827 LindaMarie

If you can't stand the fucking heat, get the fuck out of the fucking kitchen!

848 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:12:06am

re: #837 Mr. In get Mr. Out

If I was that student, I would have walked out of the room. Stop avoiding the question, unless you have something to hide.

I thought the student was a new potential Jake Tapper.
I also enjoyed the body of the crowd laughing when Barney stretched and reached in the process of inventing imaginary offenses.

849 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:12:20am

re: #847 Macker

Damn, that sounded positively British.

850 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:12:56am

re: #839 opnion

Yeah, it was a beautiful thing. The young man was on Gretta last night, smart kid.

The kid should have done his homework a little better, though. For instance, Frank has a solid "gotcha" moment when he points out that the original TARP scheme was not, as the student suggests, voted on by Congress, but was rather done on Executive Branch authority.

851 FrogMarch  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:13:19am

re: #825 jwb7605

I saw it on Fox, as well as the "internets".
Barney sure got defensive over nothing, didn't he?

Touchy indeed.
Democrats are not supposed to be hit with difficult questions. They are supposed to slide easily into office and be forever shielded from all of their inept economy-destroying decisions. and in Barney's case, since he's a homosexual, he can hide behind his victim status in liberal taxachusettes and wield more damage.

[Link: www.gaypatriot.net...]

852 opnion  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:13:29am

re: #845 VioletTiger

I don't really understand avanti. Not just his pov, which isn't even on the same Continent as mine, but why he gets bashed and then comes back for more.

Well he is not confrontation averse.

853 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:13:36am

re: #836 Zimriel

I don't think Luap Nor and his ilk are leftists; I think they're Bircher weirdos. Republicans are quite capable of *BLEEEP*.

Sorry, I forgot that this is a no-fornicating zone...

854 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:13:43am

re: #814 albusteve

don't be dill witted

That's just not kosher.

855 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:13:53am

Harvard Student Takes On Barney Frank Over Economy
The Latest Politics, News & Election Videos
April 07, 2009

WFXT-TV: It all started with a question: "How much responsibility, if any, do you have for the financial crisis?"

Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) and a conservative Harvard law student debated over how Frank should have handled his role as the House Chairman of the Financial Services Committee. Frank was at Harvard University for a speech at the Kennedy School of Government.

Frank said the student wasn't backing up his claims, invoking some laughter from the crowd, and the student told Frank he wasn't answering his question.


WATCH THE WHOLE THING!

856 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:14:13am

re: #846 aussiemagpie

LOL. Good morning/evening maggie. The fans of my favorite baseball team, the Boston Red Sox, are often referred to as the Royal R**ters. I guess that wouldn't go over too big down under.

857 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:14:23am

re: #821 Occasional Reader

I can have a little fun at my host's expense...


:-b

858 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:14:32am

re: #855 jcm

Harvard Student Takes On Barney Frank Over Economy
The Latest Politics, News & Election Videos
April 07, 2009


WATCH THE WHOLE THING!

Dang it!
Already posted!

859 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:14:50am

re: #853 Zimriel

Sorry, I forgot that this is a no-fornicating zone...

I don't know anyone who thinks Luap Nor are leftists, they are anarchist freaks, who AREN'T leftists, and neither are they rightists.

It annoys me that people think our political spectrum is only a left-right one.

860 EricWRN  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:14:54am

re: #794 CapeCoddah

Did anyone see the video of Barney Frank being blindsided by a Harvard student yesterday asking him about his culpability in the meltdown? It was priceless.
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

What a typical word-twisting, point-mangling, FORMER LAWYER weasel Barney Frank is.

P.S. - who the hell keeps voting for this guy?! I think he's from Mass(?). What the hell is wrong with people in Massachusetts?!

861 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:09am

re: #846 aussiemagpie

You should see what we Americans get up to down in our r**t cellars.

862 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:21am

re: #854 lawhawk

That's just not kosher.

What a vlasic joke!

863 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:32am

re: #842 ciaospirit

Can I see that quote? Another avanti fantasy fact. And we care what the French think about as much as we care what you think. It was a deliberate decision on Obama's part. A trip to Normandy would have been a detour to his Apology Tour. Wouldn't fit the message.

Good point.

It further highlights his narcissism 'cause not wanting to go "off message" shows that it's all about him and his message instead of the thousands of dead Americans buried there, on a field of hard-won victory.

864 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:45am

re: #816 J.D.

GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME A GOVERNMENT BAILOUT

I put that site in my Favorites. Great stuff there. I love the one that says...Mr. President, we've looked at your budget and have determined that you are qualified for the Special Olympics. LOLOLOLOL!

866 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:49am

re: #847 Macker

This is starting to remind me of a scene from South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut.

867 jorline  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:52am

re: #810 Macker

That reminds me: Fornication Under Consent of the King...

lol

I read a couple of days ago that Mrs Madoff was paying Bernard a conjugal visit in jail.

After screwing thousands of people...now he wants his wife?
/

868 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:53am

re: #846 aussiemagpie

hey aussie!

You mean that 'root' is a naughty word in Australia or just a different shade of meaning?

869 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:16:02am

re: #794 CapeCoddah

Did anyone see the video of Barney Frank being blindsided by a Harvard student yesterday asking him about his culpability in the meltdown? It was priceless.
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

Well worth listening to!
Thanks for the link!

870 NukeAtomrod  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:16:16am

Breaking news: The White House has released a further comment about President Obama's Trip to the G20 Summit.

"The accusation that President Obama bowed to Saudi Arabian King Abdullah is categorically false. The President was simply bending over because he believed he saw his balls on the floor near his feet. To the President's disappointment, the objects were, in fact, raisins accidentally dropped by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton."

871 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:16:37am

re: #860 EricWRN

He reps a district that spans from "urban" (and depressed) Liberal New Bedford and Fall River up to ultra-snooty Liberal Brookline and Newton. He will get re-elected forever if he wants to.

872 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:16:41am

re: #850 Occasional Reader

The kid should have done his homework a little better, though. For instance, Frank has a solid "gotcha" moment when he points out that the original TARP scheme was not, as the student suggests, voted on by Congress, but was rather done on Executive Branch authority.

I seem to remember that as being a request by the Executive Branch, which was the first in a line of blank check items, none of which were debated on or even largely commented on by the Legislative branch until "details" (or lack thereof) became public knowledge.
In other words, the original TARP scheme was voted on by congress. There were just no rules specified. It was basically "here, have 750 billion dollars".

873 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:16:47am
874 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:16:47am

LindaMarie: Sorry about all this f-carpetbombing. I sometimes forget that there are ladies (and, somewhere, gentlemen) present.

A thick skin helps, but I can see how early in the morning a string of obscenities might not be what you'd like to chew over along with the coffee.

875 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:17:01am

re: #868 VioletTiger

I'm pretty sure it's naughty. And so is "fanny" in the UK.

876 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:17:16am

re: #866 Mad Al-Jaffee

This is starting to remind me of a scene from South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut.

877 KansasMom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:17:22am

re: #827 LindaMarie

But I hope not in front of children
I stopped cursing when my (then) two year old child said "shit".
So we are not children here - but is ttat needed to make your point?
And the @ was not needed at all. The fucking got through and was posted.

My children don't read lgf...
I get that you don't like the f-word, and nobody here is forcing you to use it. If you want to enjoy this blog, though, your sensitive eyes will have to get used to it.

878 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:17:25am

Damn. I thought he was leaving.

879 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:17:59am

re: #863 MandyManners

'cause not wanting to go "off message" shows that it's all about him and his message instead of the thousands of dead Americans buried there, on a field of hard-won victory.

And even with an eye to "message", a visit to Normandy could have been a perfect bookend to the visit to Iraq; honoring American troops who have sacrificed for freedom, past and present. But I guess apologizing for our existence was the more important message.

880 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:18:01am

re: #866 Mad Al-Jaffee

This is starting to remind me of a scene from South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut.

Best musical and best cartoon of that year; maybe ever.

881 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:18:03am

re: #845 VioletTiger

I don't really understand avanti. Not just his pov, which isn't even on the same Continent as mine, but why he gets bashed and then comes back for more.

It's a KOS mission? Infiltrate and disrupt? Hell if I know. I would not be surprised, given these p.o.s' open plans for that sort of thing lately.

882 HoosierHoops  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:18:13am

re: #878 Ford_Prefect

Damn. I thought he was leaving.


Somebody needs to tell him to get the root out of here

883 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:18:21am

re: #827 LindaMarie

But I hope not in front of children
I stopped cursing when my (then) two year old child said "shit".
So we are not children here - but is ttat needed to make your point?
And the @ was not needed at all. The fucking got through and was posted.

You just might be too sensitive for the Internet.

884 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:18:29am

re: #871 Lincolntf

He reps a district that spans from "urban" (and depressed) Liberal New Bedford and Fall River up to ultra-snooty Liberal Brookline and Newton. He will get re-elected forever if he wants to.

It's called Gewwymandewing.

885 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:19:04am

re: #880 Zimriel

Best musical and best cartoon of that year; maybe ever.

I forget which one but he had actual musical training (either Trey or Matt). Which is why the Blame Canada/I'm super/La Resistance medley was nominated for best song.

886 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:19:07am

re: #862 Hengineer

What a vlasic joke!

Sooner or later, I'll get the tang of it.

887 Spider Mensch  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:19:18am

re: #844 LindaMarie

Point taken. Thank you.
I will cut and paste the qoute into daily life.

Did you know the word "fuck" is used 281 time in that movie? really, i'm not fucking kidding...lol...a guaranteed hangover if you ever play the drinking game ..everytime the word "fuck" is used in the Big Lebowski you have to take a drink...i would probably be drunk in the first 10 minutes of the movie.

888 aussiemagpie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:19:21am

re: #856 Ford_Prefect

LOL. Good morning/evening maggie. The fans of my favorite baseball team, the Boston Red Sox, are often referred to as the Royal R**ters. I guess that wouldn't go over too big down under.

G'day Ford!

Goodness, that name would be a big NO NO here :-)

I tried so hard to start up my tired lone brain cell to write something punny but I've failed miserably...

889 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:19:49am

re: #866 Mad Al-Jaffee

This is starting to remind me of a scene from South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut.

Shut your f**king face, uncle-f**ker!

890 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:19:56am

re: #886 lawhawk

Sooner or later, I'll get the tang of it.

You're in a pickle, I was continuing the green long thing puns.

891 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:20:03am
892 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:20:07am

re: #864 Russkilitlover

I put that site in my Favorites. Great stuff there. I love the one that says...Mr. President, we've looked at your budget and have determined that you are qualified for the Special Olympics. LOLOLOLOL!

Oh, I know!
They're all good!

893 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:20:47am

re: #887 Spider Mensch

Did you know the word "fuck" is used 281 time in that movie? really, i'm not fucking kidding...lol...a guaranteed hangover if you ever play the drinking game ..everytime the word "fuck" is used in the Big Lebowski you have to take a drink...i would probably be drunk in the first 10 minutes of the movie.

They used "Shit" I forget how many times in a 26 minute episode once.

The commentary said they wanted to use it once, they were refused, so they asked if they could use it over a hundred times and comedy central said yes.

weird...

894 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:20:56am

re: #888 aussiemagpie

G'day Ford!

Goodness, that name would be a big NO NO here :-)

I tried so hard to start up my tired lone brain cell to write something punny but I've failed miserably...

So I take a plumbing company named Roto R**ter wouldn't fly either?

895 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:21:09am

re: #859 Hengineer

I don't know anyone who thinks Luap Nor are leftists, they are anarchist freaks, who AREN'T leftists, and neither are they rightists.

It annoys me that people think our political spectrum is only a left-right one.

They just happen to pretend to be Republicans, while obtaining funding from Soros' orgs, and while engaging in the same diggbat techno-lib deceptions which the real Democrats engage in.

Alright.

896 jorline  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:21:15am
897 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:21:18am

re: #889 Occasional Reader

Shut your f**king face, uncle-f**ker!

Yes I saw the new Terrance and Phillip movie, who wants to touch me?

I SAID WHO WANTS TO TOUCH ME?

898 aussiemagpie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:21:22am

re: #861 Occasional Reader

You should see what we Americans get up to down in our r**t cellars.

No wonder there's so many of you... :-)

899 jorline  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:22:32am

bbl

900 ggt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:22:33am

re: #827 LindaMarie

But I hope not in front of children
I stopped cursing when my (then) two year old child said "shit".
So we are not children here - but is ttat needed to make your point?
And the @ was not needed at all. The fucking got through and was posted.

Don't tell me or anyone else how or what to post. It's not your blog.

901 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:22:42am

re: #895 Taqiyyotomist

They just happen to pretend to be Republicans, while obtaining funding from Soros' orgs, and while engaging in the same diggbat techno-lib deceptions which the real Democrats engage in.

Alright.

They aren't leftists, but I bet Soros gives them funding because they undermine Republicans, sort of like the crazy San Fransiscoans undermine Democrats.

902 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:24:00am

re: #887 Spider Mensch

Believe it or not, Wikipedia actually has an article on this:

List of films that most frequently use the word "fuck"

The Big Lebowski is #22 on the list, behind such films as Casino, Goodfellas, and Pulp Fiction. Oddly enough, a movie named Fuck tops the list.

903 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:24:03am

re: #900 ggt

Don't tell me or anyone else how or what to post. It's not your blog.

Point of order: She wasn't "telling", she was asking.

904 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:24:04am

re: #825 jwb7605

I saw it on Fox, as well as the "internets".
Barney sure got defensive over nothing, didn't he?

I keep hoping he will stroke out whenever someone questions him. O'Reilly, even though I can barely tolerate him, almost achieved it.

905 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:24:13am

re: #895 Taqiyyotomist

They just happen to pretend to be Republicans, while obtaining funding from Soros' orgs, and while engaging in the same diggbat techno-lib deceptions which the real Democrats engage in.

Alright.

They are "classic" liberals in the sense of wanting more personal freedoms, at least.

906 aussiemagpie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:24:31am

re: #868 VioletTiger

hey aussie!

You mean that 'root' is a naughty word in Australia or just a different shade of meaning?

Hi {Violet tiger}

Yes, it's the equivalent of F**K

So when you visit here don't mention the word unless you're visiting a plant nursery!

907 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:24:38am

re: #879 Occasional Reader

And even with an eye to "message", a visit to Normandy could have been a perfect bookend to the visit to Iraq; honoring American troops who have sacrificed for freedom, past and present. But I guess apologizing for our existence was the more important message.

Oh, you know it. He wants to accentuate what he thinks are our negative qualities, and to bash Pres. Bush and what FCBBHO sees as Bush's negative actions. There was nothing he could do to smash Bush at Normandy while also trying to look as if he's a decent CiC. I've never said this about another human being before but, I think he's a piece of shit.

908 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:25:10am

re: #902 Honorary Yooper

Believe it or not, Wikipedia actually has an article on this:

List of films that most frequently use the word "fuck"

The Big Lebowski is #22 on the list, behind such films as Casino, Goodfellas, and Pulp Fiction. Oddly enough, a movie named Fuck tops the list.

LOL!
What isn't on wikipedia?

909 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:25:15am

re: #904 CapeCoddah

I keep hoping he will stroke out whenever someone questions him. O'Reilly, even though I can barely tolerate him, almost achieved it.

Please don't use the term "stroke out" when talking about Barney Fwank.

910 EricWRN  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:25:35am

re: #871 Lincolntf

He reps a district that spans from "urban" (and depressed) Liberal New Bedford and Fall River up to ultra-snooty Liberal Brookline and Newton. He will get re-elected forever if he wants to.

Him and Ted Kennedy... it boggles the mind. Hard to believe Massachusetts is the place where revolutions once started. It now epitomizes the (big fat rich white guy with slurred speech) status quo.

911 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:25:47am

Obama's gonna come back to the states:
"How many mass shootings with guns happened while I was away?"

It's going to be a fun few days./

912 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:25:58am

re: #909 Ford_Prefect

Please don't use the term "stroke out" when talking about Barney Fwank.

LOL, Sorry.

913 Lincolntf  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:25:58am

re: #910 EricWRN

Tell me about it.

914 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:26:05am

re: #735 jcm

SmartCar is sooo yesterday!
PUMA is the new hottness!

That would look great as a brushguard on a Suburban, or an H2.

915 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:26:43am

re: #902 Honorary Yooper

Believe it or not, Wikipedia actually has an article on this:

List of films that most frequently use the word "fuck"

The Big Lebowski is #22 on the list, behind such films as Casino, Goodfellas, and Pulp Fiction. Oddly enough, a movie named Fuck tops the list.

I'm surprised The Aristocrats is so relatively low on that list.

My wife, who is from Undisclosed Country Somewhere to the South of Here, has asked me from time to time "why do Americans say 'fuck' so much." I don't have a really good answer.

916 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:27:08am

re: #897 Hengineer

Yes I saw the new Terrance and Phillip movie, who wants to touch me?

I SAID WHO WANTS TO TOUCH ME?

Boys, I seriously doubt Mr. Garrison said "eat penguin shit, you ass spelunker."

917 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:27:40am

My wife passed on this YouTube video.
The "money quote" begins at about 3:30 in the clip.

... well ... maybe next year, if you watch the whole thing ...

918 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:07am

re: #915 Occasional Reader

I'm surprised The Aristocrats is so relatively low on that list.

My wife, who is from Undisclosed Country Somewhere to the South of Here, has asked me from time to time "why do Americans say 'fuck' so much." I don't have a really good answer.

Because it is useful as a noun, verb, adjective, adverb, pronoun and at times, a proper name.

919 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:07am

re: #904 CapeCoddah

I keep hoping he will stroke out whenever someone questions him. O'Reilly, even though I can barely tolerate him, almost achieved it.

Almost?

920 yesandno  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:13am

I am glad the Pres didn't go to Normandy.


He would have stood there after placing a wreath and talking about how fine they were and then go into a speech about how sorry he was that we didn't negotiate with Hitler and the Japanese and apologize for all those killed because America entered the War.

No time to send him off to do serious work when he was busy on his apology tour. He doesn't respect hallowed ground because he can never understand their sacrifice...it isn't in him. He can mouth the words, but the face gives the lack of emotion away.

They died so that someone like him could one day lead the world. But not in appeasement, in strength. Not is submission but in assurance. Not as a global leader, but as an American one. Not as condescending, but as a practitioner of the ideals of life and liberty.

He doesn't measure up...he measures all of us down. Best he stayed away

921 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:16am

re: #916 Honorary Yooper

Boys, I seriously doubt Mr. Garrison said "eat penguin shit, you ass spelunker."

What did you say?

I said...(pulls out megaphone)...How would you like to suck my balls...Mr Garrison?

922 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:18am

FDR BHO

The Surge Normandy invasion was a ill considered escalation of the conflict in Iraq Europe, which was a distraction from the real war against Al Qaeda in the mountains between Afghanistan & Pakistan Japan in the Pacific. After all, Hitler Saddam was not involved in the tragic events of Pearl Harbor 9-11.

Preventing a genocide is not sufficient reason to sacrifice more lives of US troops in Iraq Europe.

923 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:36am

re: #847 Macker

If you can't stand the fucking heat, get the fuck out of the fucking kitchen!


Is that comment really needed?
Do you really find it adds to discourse?
Conversation?
Got any words of more then one syllable?

Blast (see that is not a swear word as they are understood) the Mullah is rapping again.
So I am taking out on you? Perhaps. I do think you do not to need to be so aggressive and I am sure Mandy can stand up for herself if she disagrees.

924 lurking faith  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:44am

re: #885 Hengineer

I forget which one but he had actual musical training (either Trey or Matt). Which is why the Blame Canada/I'm super/La Resistance medley was nominated for best song.

I always thought that was the worst song in the movie. I presume it got nominated because they couldn't have played any of the others in prime time.

925 Spider Mensch  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:57am

re: #902 Honorary Yooper

Believe it or not, Wikipedia actually has an article on this:

List of films that most frequently use the word "fuck"

The Big Lebowski is #22 on the list, behind such films as Casino, Goodfellas, and Pulp Fiction. Oddly enough, a movie named Fuck tops the list.

hmmm..I wonder what the fucks per minute ratio is? lebowski is a 90 minute fare...so 3.12 fucks per minute average.the other 3 movies are longer...so I'll have to IMBD the running times...now where did I put my fucking calculator?...lol

926 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:58am

re: #900 ggt

Don't tell me or anyone else how or what to post. It's not your blog.

Don't tell me what to do,
Don't tell me what to say,
And when I come out with you,
Don't put me on display!

927 aussiemagpie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:29:07am

re: #894 Ford_Prefect

So I take a plumbing company named Roto R**ter wouldn't fly either?

That company is here too, and many a joke has been made about it...

928 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:29:34am

re: #924 lurking faith

I always thought that was the worst song in the movie. I presume it got nominated because they couldn't have played any of the others in prime time.

The musical arrangement was damn good, actually, I agree it wasn't the best song, but the musical arrangement was superb.

929 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:29:42am

re: #915 Occasional Reader

I'm surprised The Aristocrats is so relatively low on that list.

My wife, who is from Undisclosed Country Somewhere to the South of Here, has asked me from time to time "why do Americans say 'fuck' so much." I don't have a really good answer.


show her this

930 smokefire  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:29:45am

What the hell is wrong with people in Massachusetts?!

They are called MASSHOLES.

931 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:30:16am

re: #906 aussiemagpie

Hi {Violet tiger}

Yes, it's the equivalent of F**K

So when you visit here don't mention the word unless you're visiting a plant nursery!

Ooopsy, sorry!
It must get confusing at those nurseries. Mr. Manager, there's something wrong with my plant;s...
oh dear.

932 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:30:36am

re: #914 Ward Cleaver

That would look great as a brushguard on a Suburban, or an H2.

I was hoping to get one of those as a spare tire in the Tahoe we just got!

933 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:30:39am

re: #315 Spare O'Lake

Doesn't anyone have the balls to go over there, sink all their boats and kill the [pirates]?

Sounds like a good idea to me. For the life of me I don't understand why we spent so much money on housing similar stateless militants at Gitmo. Was there a hemp shortage?

934 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:31:14am

re: #914 Ward Cleaver

That would look great as a brushguard on a Suburban, or an H2.

I have a question for the car nazis of the world.

There's me, my wife and 3 kids. In addition we are licensed for 3 foster kids. Part of the licensing for all that is I have to be able to transport all 8 in seats or car seats.

Okay car nazis:
How many 8 passenger options do I have now? How many will I have when you are down mandating everyone has to drive a Prius our a PUMA?

935 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:31:14am

re: #915 Occasional Reader

I'm surprised The Aristocrats is so relatively low on that list.

My wife, who is from Undisclosed Country Somewhere to the South of Here, has asked me from time to time "why do Americans say 'fuck' so much." I don't have a really good answer.

It's not just Americans. Geeze, if she thinks we say it a lot, she should visit Britian. It's a quick and dirty four letter word that's been used for hundreds of years in the English language.

936 smokefire  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:31:22am

re: #907 MandyManners

Obama not going to Omaha Beach cemetery, when in France would be like Lincoln not going the Gettysburg Cemetery

937 ggt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:31:22am

re: #903 Occasional Reader

Point of order: She wasn't "telling", she was asking.

I don't know, I thought her last post to be was rude.

938 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:00am

re: #915 Occasional Reader

I'm surprised The Aristocrats is so relatively low on that list.

My wife, who is from Undisclosed Country Somewhere to the South of Here, has asked me from time to time "why do Americans say 'fuck' so much." I don't have a really good answer.

Fuck if I know?

939 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:05am

re: #930 smokefire

What the hell is wrong with people in Massachusetts?!

They are called MASSHOLES.

New avatar? I like.

940 Mithrax  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:27am

from the "Unclench" dept:

US Pirates attack US flagged vessel

941 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:31am

re: #923 LindaMarie

Is that comment really needed?
Do you really find it adds to discourse?
Conversation?
Got any words of more then one syllable?

Blast (see that is not a swear word as they are understood) the Mullah is rapping again.
So I am taking out on you? Perhaps. I do think you do not to need to be so aggressive and I am sure Mandy can stand up for herself if she disagrees.

LindaMarie, please don't take this as us picking on you, but you can always "down"ding him. You don't need to be the grammar police, the supernanny watching out for innocent eyes. Chances are if we're on this blog, we're not innocent.

To quote a very famous comedian, I'd rather have my children watch a movie of two people making love than two people trying to kill one another.

That is the problem I have with much of the social conservatives, is that they also want to control our language and thought, all in the guise of "decency" and "protecting our children".

I agree that if you're trying to argue a point, so-called "swear" words actually detract from your argument, but I will NOT tell you you have no right to say it.

942 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:34am

re: #919 VegasRick

Almost?

[Video]

LOL, Well, Barney walked out rather than being carried out on a stretcher!

943 smokefire  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:52am

re: #939 Ford_Prefect

Thank you. Been away for a bit. Too much OT at work.

944 johnnyreb  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:55am

re: #934 jcm

I have a question for the car nazis of the world.

There's me, my wife and 3 kids. In addition we are licensed for 3 foster kids. Part of the licensing for all that is I have to be able to transport all 8 in seats or car seats.

Okay car nazis:
How many 8 passenger options do I have now? How many will I have when you are down mandating everyone has to drive a Prius our a PUMA?

Easy! By the time that happens you will be able to have 8 wives so they can drive 3 cars, one kid each. Problem solved!

945 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:33:04am

re: #936 smokefire

Obama not going to Omaha Beach cemetery, when in France would be like Lincoln not going the Gettysburg Cemetery

Nice analogy.

946 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:33:16am

re: #934 jcm

sounds like me. I have only one child, but on weekends we travel over 250 miles one way to soccer tourneys, taking at least 5 of his teammates and all their equipment

bottom line ,,, 2 adults, 6 kids with soccer bags, overnight bags and sleeping bags

947 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:33:17am

re: #902 Honorary Yooper

Believe it or not, Wikipedia actually has an article on this:

List of films that most frequently use the word "fuck"

The Big Lebowski is #22 on the list, behind such films as Casino, Goodfellas, and Pulp Fiction. Oddly enough, a movie named Fuck tops the list.

Wow, the oldest movie on that list is from 1980 (Raging Bull). No movies from the '70s or earlier there.

948 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:33:24am

re: #941 Hengineer

LindaMarie, please don't take this as us picking on you, but you can always "down"ding him. You don't need to be the grammar police, the supernanny watching out for innocent eyes. Chances are if we're on this blog, we're not innocent.

To quote a very famous comedian, I'd rather have my children watch a movie of two people making love than two people trying to kill one another.

That is the problem I have with much of the social conservatives, is that they also want to control our language and thought, all in the guise of "decency" and "protecting our children".

I agree that if you're trying to argue a point, so-called "swear" words actually detract from your argument, but I will NOT tell you you have no right to say it.

RIP, George Carlin...

949 ciaospirit  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:33:36am

re: #896 jorline

They loved you in Turkey.

Turkish Flash T.V. MOCKS U.S President Obama

What'd they say? The only word I got was negro.

950 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:33:43am

re: #940 Mithrax

from the "Unclench" dept:

US Pirates attack US flagged vessel

SEAL Team to the ship.
To bad all the Battlewagons are retired to make a impression on the Pirates Port.

951 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:34:04am

re: #930 smokefire

What the hell is wrong with people in Massachusetts?!

They are called MASSHOLES.

Now, now, not all of us.

952 aussiemagpie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:34:04am

re: #931 VioletTiger

Ooopsy, sorry!
It must get confusing at those nurseries. Mr. Manager, there's something wrong with my plant;s...
oh dear.

LOL! It's not that bad, we're a pretty easy going bunch down here :-)

953 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:34:07am

re: #942 CapeCoddah

LOL, Well, Barney walked out rather than being carried out on a stretcher!

Unfortunately.

954 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:34:25am

re: #935 Honorary Yooper

It's not just Americans. Geeze, if she thinks we say it a lot, she should visit Britian. It's a quick and dirty four letter word that's been used for hundreds of years in the English language.

Besides, what each country/culture considers a swear word is different anyway. Isn't the word "bloody" kind of a swear word in the UK?

955 smokefire  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:34:29am

re: #940 Mithrax

from the "Unclench" dept:

US Pirates attack US flagged vessel

Let me guess, are we going to go to the UN and have some kind of discussion, over this incident?

This is becoming so much like the Carter Administration.

956 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:34:43am

re: #944 johnnyreb

Easy! By the time that happens you will be able to have 8 wives so they can drive 3 cars, one kid each. Problem solved!

LOL!

Do I get a bailout to afford 8 wives?

957 KenJen  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:35:07am

re: #934 jcm

My Volvo wagon seats 7. It also has a roof rack. You could strap your spouse to the roof.

958 Mithrax  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:35:35am

re: #940 Mithrax

Ack! should be Pirates attack...

PIMF

959 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:35:44am

We could probably bring Old Ironsides out of mothballs, and destroy the pirates with that one boat.

But we won't. We'll let India do it.

960 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:35:58am

re: #955 smokefire

Let me guess, are we going to go to the UN and have some kind of discussion, over this incident?

This is becoming so much like the Carter Administration.

961 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:36:00am

re: #934 jcm

There's me, my wife and 3 kids. In addition we are licensed for 3 foster kids.

Stop. Right. There.

You have exceeded (badly) your Procreative Carbon Footprint Allocation. (Why did you punish yourself with so many children? Well, whatever.)

962 johnnyreb  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:36:03am

re: #950 jcm

SEAL Team to the ship.
To bad all the Battlewagons are retired to make a impression on the Pirates Port.

Actually one SSGN about 250 miles out. Send a few helos in to drop a bunch of you have 12 hours to get out of town or die leaflets. And presto 175 cruise missiles later, no more pirate haven.

963 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:36:21am

re: #896 jorline

They loved you in Turkey.

Turkish Flash T.V. MOCKS U.S President Obama

Is it just me or does that news guy look like Gene Wilder coming out of the bathroom at the train station in Silver Streak?

964 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:36:25am

re: #906 aussiemagpie

Hi {Violet tiger}

Yes, it's the equivalent of F**K

So when you visit here don't mention the word unless you're visiting a plant nursery!

So, the root causes of martial discord might, indeed be because of the rooting?

965 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:36:36am

re: #950 jcm

SEAL Team to the ship.
To bad all the Battlewagons are retired to make a impression on the Pirates Port.

inline broadsides...turn, repeat

966 smokefire  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:36:52am

re: #951 CapeCoddah

OK just the bad drivers then.
OT, any new developments on the New England Lizard Convention.

967 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:36:52am

re: #941 Hengineer

LindaMarie, please don't take this as us picking on you, but you can always "down"ding him. You don't need to be the grammar police, the supernanny watching out for innocent eyes. Chances are if we're on this blog, we're not innocent.

To quote a very famous comedian, I'd rather have my children watch a movie of two people making love than two people trying to kill one another.

That is the problem I have with much of the social conservatives, is that they also want to control our language and thought, all in the guise of "decency" and "protecting our children".

I agree that if you're trying to argue a point, so-called "swear" words actually detract from your argument, but I will NOT tell you you have no right to say it.

Besides, that was the point of the profanity-laced South Park: BLU movie, that censorship can be taken too far.

968 ggt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:36:57am

Aw, I have to get get the kid --1/2 day.

have a great day all!

969 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:37:12am

re: #955 smokefire

Let me guess, are we going to go to the UN and have some kind of discussion, over this incident?

This is becoming so much like the Carter Administration.

President Wuss.

970 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:37:20am

re: #720 LindaMarie

Linda, I updinged you on that just because I don't think it was fair that you were downdinged. You stated your opinion without being rude and your request was, in my opinion, reasonable. Having said that, I wouldn't expect much of a change, from Mandy or many others here if I were you. I myself have been known to drop a few bombs.

971 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:37:28am

re: #944 johnnyreb

Easy! By the time that happens you will be able to have 8 wives so they can drive 3 cars, one kid each. Problem solved!

Mitt Romney elected President !?!?!?

/// TOTALLY sarcastic!

972 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:37:35am

re: #946 sattv4u2

sounds like me. I have only one child, but on weekends we travel over 250 miles one way to soccer tourneys, taking at least 5 of his teammates and all their equipment

bottom line ,,, 2 adults, 6 kids with soccer bags, overnight bags and sleeping bags

Maybe we can hook those PUMA's into a train!
///

973 freetoken  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:37:46am

re: #941 Hengineer

Chances are if we're on this blog, we're not innocent.

Now that is what I call an "understatement."

974 LindaMarie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:37:57am

re: #883 Russkilitlover

You just might be too sensitive for the Internet.

I think you and Kansas Mom may be right.
Words mean things and I believe that using them so lightly is discrediting them.

Islam the Religion of Peace -- Discredited.
Change you can depend on --soon to be discredited

Night all

975 johnnyreb  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:38:01am

re: #966 smokefire

I missed that. When is that going to happen?

976 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:38:27am

re: #973 freetoken

Now that is what I call an "understatement."

Hey, I was being diplomatic ;-)

977 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:38:56am

re: #966 smokefire

OK just the bad drivers then.
OT, any new developments on the New England Lizard Convention.

Yipes, I have been so busy with my boss and his medication adjustment issues,which require daily trips to Boston at odd hours, I forgot to e-mail loppy-d. Thanks for the reminder...will do that now. I will have an answer shortly!

978 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:39:07am

re: #943 smokefire

Thank you. Been away for a bit. Too much OT at work.

OT at work? Doesn't that just mean more lgf time?

979 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:39:15am

Maybe the word just bothered Him... "Omaha" is almost the same thing as "Obama". It would have been a distraction for the real purpose of His European tour: showing Obama to the world.

980 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:39:22am

re: #896 jorline

They loved you in Turkey.

Turkish Flash T.V. MOCKS U.S President Obama

Fucking racist pig.

981 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:39:33am

re: #962 johnnyreb

Actually one SSGN about 250 miles out. Send a few helos in to drop a bunch of you have 12 hours to get out of town or die leaflets. And presto 175 cruise missiles later, no more pirate haven.

That'll work...

I just love the Battlewagons...

982 aussiemagpie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:39:56am

re: #964 razorbacker

So, the root causes of martial discord might, indeed be because of the rooting?

You have found the root of the problem...

983 smokefire  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:40:06am

re: #962 johnnyreb

Actually one SSGN about 250 miles out. Send a few helos in to drop a bunch of you have 12 hours to get out of town or die leaflets. And presto 175 cruise missiles later, no more pirate haven.

24 empty missile tubes...mushroom cloud
...and now IT'S MILLER TIME SAM ADAMS TIMEre: #969 Ward Cleaver

..OH DEAR HERE COMES THAT BUNNY AGAIN

984 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:40:26am

re: #966 smokefire

OK just the bad drivers then.
OT, any new developments on the New England Lizard Convention.

The what? I hadn't heard about that.

985 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:40:40am

re: #949 ciaospirit

What'd they say? The only word I got was negro.

I think they had somebody wearing blackface. I consider that very racist. I don't know if it is considered racist in other countries.

986 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:41:15am

re: #963 Russkilitlover

Is it just me or does that news guy look like Gene Wilder coming out of the bathroom at the train station in Silver Streak?

Almost. Wilder had more of a 'fro in the movie.

987 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:41:35am

re: #941 Hengineer

LindaMarie, please don't take this as us picking on you, but you can always "down"ding him. You don't need to be the grammar police, the supernanny watching out for innocent eyes. Chances are if we're on this blog, we're not innocent.

To quote a very famous comedian, I'd rather have my children watch a movie of two people making love than two people trying to kill one another.

That is the problem I have with much of the social conservatives, is that they also want to control our language and thought, all in the guise of "decency" and "protecting our children".

I agree that if you're trying to argue a point, so-called "swear" words actually detract from your argument, but I will NOT tell you you have no right to say it.

STBU and STBD
("Blast"? - no thanks, I'll stick with "Fuck". Besides, fuck is much less violent than "blast")

988 freetoken  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:41:40am

re: #976 Hengineer

Hey, I was being diplomatic ;-)

Something tells me many lizards are from the Propecia school of diplomacy...

989 Canoe Train  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:41:44am

re: #559 Kenneth

In a unrelated question, Who would be our modern day version of Winston Churchill, and where is s/he ?

Netanyhu ?

990 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:41:51am

re: #981 jcm

That'll work...

I just love the Battlewagons...

Fantastic picture!

991 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:41:51am

For those who missed him on Monday's show...
Krauthammer: Europe's Been Sucking On America's Tit For 60 Years

992 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:42:14am

I wonder if BO will tell the shipping company how to deal with the hijackers...if he even has that authority...will he ask their CEO to step down?

993 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:42:31am

re: #914 Ward Cleaver

That would look great as a brushguard on a Suburban, or an H2.

And people wonder why GM is in the toilet.

994 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:42:51am

re: #989 Canoe Train

In a unrelated question, Who would be our modern day version of Winston Churchill, and where is s/he ?

Netanyhu ?

Does Netanyhu enjoy fine cigars and a few gin&tonics?

995 smokefire  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:42:59am

re: #981 jcm

That'll work...

I just love the Battlewagons...

Big Bada Boom.

996 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:43:01am

re: #921 Hengineer

That movie warped my fragile little mind!

997 NonNativeTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:43:07am

I am definitely not a prude. But , it does concern me when I hear
cursing at the grocery store, mall, starbucks, sporting events, as
a matter of everyday speech. There is a place for cursing, but
to use it consistently in everyday life, diminishes its effectiveness
when it is appropriate.

998 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:43:15am

re: #987 Spare O'Lake

STBU and STBD
("Blast"? - no thanks, I'll stick with "Fuck". Besides, fuck is much less violent than "blast")

Well, fucking has created more people than it has ever killed.

999 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:43:20am

re: #989 Canoe Train

In a unrelated question, Who would be our modern day version of Winston Churchill, and where is s/he ?

Netanyhu ?

Glenn Beck.
// ducks, hides, and signs off for a while ...

1000 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:43:33am

re: #981 jcm

re: #990 VegasRick

Another battlewagon

Image: madeleine-albright.jpg

1001 smokefire  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:08am

re: #994 Hengineer

few gin&tonics?

More than a few Gin & Tonics. I do believe Winny was fond of Brandy too.

1002 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:08am

re: #1000 sattv4u2

re: #990 VegasRick

Another battlewagon

[Link: www.moonbattery.com...]

BRAIN BLEACH! STAT!

1003 lurking faith  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:09am

re: #928 Hengineer

The musical arrangement was damn good, actually, I agree it wasn't the best song, but the musical arrangement was superb.

That's true. But I will always think it was a pity, since they're so good at terribly catchy songs, that they were nominated for one of their rare uncatchy tunes.

BTW, from Wikipedia:

South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut was nominated for an Oscar for "Best Music, Original Song" for "Blame Canada". They lost to Phil Collins and made fun of him in two consecutive episodes in season 4 ("Cartman's Silly Hate Crime 2000" and "Timmy 2000"). Creator Trey Parker explained the reasoning for these barbs in the season 4 DVD commentary, saying "we were fully expecting to lose, just not to Phil Collins".

*snip*

Another track from the movie, "Uncle Fucka", won an MTV Movie Award for Best Musical Performance; Trey Parker and Matt Stone accepted the award, and thanked the audience for "not nominating Phil Collins".

Heh.

1004 mithrax  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:23am

re: #990 VegasRick

Fantastic picture!

I prefer the retro look :P

1005 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:24am

re: #998 Honorary Yooper

Well, fucking has created more people than it has ever killed.

That's a Sexing Upding for sure.

How about this, say "Sex" instead of "Fuck"?

It's a 3-letter word!

1006 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:30am

I just e-mailed Loppyd for a meeting with her to set up the lizard meet.
Will keep everyone updated. We want to do it before jetpilot is transferred out of Massachusetts.

1007 opnion  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:46am

re: #850 Occasional Reader

The kid should have done his homework a little better, though. For instance, Frank has a solid "gotcha" moment when he points out that the original TARP scheme was not, as the student suggests, voted on by Congress, but was rather done on Executive Branch authority.

That's true & he should have pointed out Barneys malfeasance with Fannie & Freddie.
I do hate to think about Fannie & Barney in the same thought.
All things considered though , the young men did well.

1008 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:57am

How about we say it in another language?

UCKFAY OUYAY anyone?

1009 ciaospirit  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:45:03am

re: #991 J.D.

For those who missed him on Monday's show...
Krauthammer: Europe's Been Sucking On America's Tit For 60 Years

I saw it. Great stuff.

1010 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:45:09am

I'm not a big one for cussing. Oh, I know the words, even know how to spell most of them. But I seldom use them.

That way, when I do curse, people sit up and pay attention.

That has worked to my benefit. I once had a boss flatly refuse to believe that I had cursed out this customer because in seven years he had never heard me say so much as 'damn'.

But I actually had told the guy that he was welcome to kiss my motherfucking ass and use a lot of tongue in the process.

1011 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:45:33am

re: #935 Honorary Yooper

It's not just Americans. Geeze, if she thinks we say it a lot, she should visit Britian. It's a quick and dirty four letter word that's been used for hundreds of years in the English language.

"That word is special."
~ Said with awe and reverence by a little boy in Hope and Glory.

1012 justabill  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:45:34am

re: #906 aussiemagpie

Hi {Violet tiger}

Yes, it's the equivalent of F**K

So when you visit here don't mention the word unless you're visiting a plant nursery!

My brother was visiting England a few years back. Much to his surprise a girl asked him to "knock her up" in the morning.

For those outside of America, to get "Knocked up" is to become pregnant in US slang.

1013 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:45:36am

re: #999 jwb7605

Glenn Beck.
// ducks, hides, and signs off for a while ...

Ron Paul! :)

1014 sattv4u2  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:45:40am

RE: Netenyahu


I could see him puuing a Churchill ,,,sitting next toHillary or Michelle at a dinner with one of them saying

"Sir,, if I were married to you, I would put pioson in your drink"
With Bebe saying
"Ma'am, ,, if I were married to you, I would drink it"

1015 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:45:44am

re: #1003 lurking faith

Heh.

I already knew that, but I knew that from watching the DVDs of the seasons with their mini-commentaries.

=-)

Season 12 is out now, actually, and I own all 12.

1016 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:45:45am

re: #1002 Ford_Prefect

BRAIN BLEACH! STAT!

Ick!

1017 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:45:53am

re: #906 aussiemagpie

Hi {Violet tiger}

Yes, it's the equivalent of F**K

So when you visit here don't mention the word unless you're visiting a plant nursery!

Is that relatively new? Because the film Romper Stomper (I've seen it!), starring Russell Crowe, is on the Wiki list, with 119 uses of the F-bomb.

1018 smokefire  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:46:28am

re: #1004 mithrax

...spoken like a True Brit.

Only problem today now is the Limey's would have their ship captured [al a the Iranians did], apologize, and then the sailors would laugh about it.

You have to believe that Nelson would be spinning in his grave over that.

1019 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:46:54am

re: #1011 Russkilitlover

"That word is special."
~ Said with awe and reverence by a little boy in Hope and Glory.

"Ohhh...fudge"...

A Christmas Story

1020 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:47:03am

re: #991 J.D.

For those who missed him on Monday's show...
Krauthammer: Europe's Been Sucking On America's Tit For 60 Years

Wow.

1021 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:47:10am

Ok, I'm gonna go eat lunch, later lizards!

1022 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:47:14am

re: #1000 sattv4u2

re: #990 VegasRick

Another battlewagon

[Link: www.moonbattery.com...]

If that was Helen Thomas it would be hotter!
///

1023 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:47:24am

re: #1003 lurking faith

I loved that they said they usually don't really hate the celebreties they mock on the show. Except for Barbra Striesand. (I think the exact words were something like "We fucking hate Barbra Streisand!")

1024 mithrax  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:47:50am

re: #1018 smokefire

Canadian actually :P

1025 CapeCoddah  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:48:24am

re: #1022 VegasRick

If that was Helen Thomas it would be hotter!
/// /// /// ///

If it was Helen Thomas, it would have shattered the camera and killed the photographer.

1026 smokefire  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:48:45am

re: #1014 sattv4u2

another part of that story would be.

Hillary: Mr. Churchill you sir are drunk
Churchill: Yes mam, I am, but you are ugly, and in the morning, I will be sober, and you will still be ugly.

1027 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:48:49am

re: #1012 justabill

My brother was visiting England a few years back. Much to his surprise a girl asked him to "knock her up" in the morning.

For those outside of America, to get "Knocked up" is to become pregnant in US slang.


Sucking down a fag is okay there as well.

1028 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:49:05am

re: #1009 ciaospirit

I saw it. Great stuff.

Don't you just love it?

Honestly, I tivo it just to be sure I don't miss Krauthammer in the last 20 minutes.

1029 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:49:05am

re: #991 J.D.

For those who missed him on Monday's show...
Krauthammer: Europe's Been Sucking On America's Tit For 60 Years

I demand a meeting with Mme Sarkozy (née Bruno) in order to get some reciprocity!

1030 Canoe Train  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:49:22am

re: #999 jwb7605

re: #1013 Mad Al-Jaffee

No! and, No!
*Smack!*

1031 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:49:39am

Canucks in Af'stan to Yanks: Bring your tanks!

Canadian officers in Afghanistan are advising their American counterparts to bring some M-1 tanks along with their additional combat brigades arriving this year. Canada is the only NATO nation with tanks in Afghanistan, and they have found them very useful while fighting the Taliban. In addition to being immune to enemy fire, the tanks can smash through the walls that surround the many family compounds that dot the Afghan countryside. There is also the fear factor. The Canadian tanks are scary, as well as deadly.

1032 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:49:58am

re: #1012 justabill

My brother was visiting England a few years back. Much to his surprise a girl asked him to "knock her up" in the morning.

For those outside of America, to get "Knocked up" is to become pregnant in US slang.

I think 'stuffed' means the same thing in England, right? So after a big meal, don't say you are stuffed...

1033 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:50:26am

re: #1027 VegasRick


"Remember, elevator is called a 'lift,' a mile is called a 'kilometer,' and botulism is called 'steak and kidney pie.'"

-Marj Simpson

1034 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:50:31am

re: #1027 VegasRick

Sucking down a fag is okay there as well.

Over here, it has something to do with Barney Frank.
/OK, it was too easy a target.

1035 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:50:41am

re: #1017 Ward Cleaver

Because the film Romper Stomper (I've seen it!),

I did, too. Russell Crowe's first big break, if I'm not mistaken.

1036 smokefire  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:51:04am

re: #1032 VioletTiger

According to that list Scarface is #41. UNF**KING believable.

1037 J.D.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:51:07am

re: #1029 Occasional Reader

I demand a meeting with Mme Sarkozy (née Bruno) in order to get some reciprocity!


You would!
LOL!

1038 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:51:14am

re: #1022 VegasRick

You blew the margin!

1039 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:51:16am

re: #962 johnnyreb

Actually one SSGN about 250 miles out. Send a few helos in to drop a bunch of you have 12 hours to get out of town or die leaflets. And presto 175 cruise missiles later, no more pirate haven.

I'd rather a few special forces teams. Shoot most of the pirates and leave the rest hanging. Do that to one pirate town and see if they decide to change their line of work.
The SEALS could come in at night, make holes in the pirate boats, and then deal with the pirates. Any that try to escape go down as well.

1040 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:51:30am

re: #1029 Occasional Reader

I demand a meeting with Mme Sarkozy (née BrunoBruni) in order to get some reciprocity!

Dang.

1041 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:52:16am

re: #993 Russkilitlover

And people wonder why GM is in the toilet.

Peter De Lorenzo tore it (and GM) a new one in today's Autoextremist.

He called it the Obamalosimobile. In today's Rants, he also goes after Obama.

1042 capitalist piglet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:52:20am

re: #941 Hengineer

LindaMarie, please don't take this as us picking on you, but you can always "down"ding him. You don't need to be the grammar police, the supernanny watching out for innocent eyes. Chances are if we're on this blog, we're not innocent.

To quote a very famous comedian, I'd rather have my children watch a movie of two people making love than two people trying to kill one another.

That is the problem I have with much of the social conservatives, is that they also want to control our language and thought, all in the guise of "decency" and "protecting our children".

I agree that if you're trying to argue a point, so-called "swear" words actually detract from your argument, but I will NOT tell you you have no right to say it.

I'm glad you said "much", because (though I can't really own the "so-con" label...it doesn't seem to fit me exactly) we're not all the same.

I am one of the Christians here, and I have never asked anyone to control their language, nor would I. In fact, I've been known to fling a little here and there myself, but that's my problem. As far as that goes, I am only concerned about my own behavior - no one else's.

I love Mandy's posts, because she often expresses the sentiment I'm thinking but can't bring myself to type out. I upding her often. I've also seen her quote scripture, and I upding that too. She's great, imo.

1043 jill e  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:52:34am

“The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog.” - GK Chesterton (Broadcast talk 6-11-35)

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.” –C.S. Lewis

1044 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:52:40am

re: #1035 Occasional Reader

I did, too. Russell Crowe's first big break, if I'm not mistaken.

He'd later go on to star in "Fighting Around the World" with Tugger.

1045 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:52:42am

Now I know why baseball hasn't really caught on in Oz.

It's the seventh inning stretch. When they start singing "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" and get to 'and we'll root, root, root for the hometeam' everyone gets all distracted.

Explains so much.

1046 sealizard  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:52:53am

Here's a little something to remind you lizards of what Americans are capable of...it's a little long, but worth your time.
[Link: oldbluejacket.com...]

1047 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:53:00am

re: #1000 sattv4u2

re: #990 VegasRick

Another battlewagon

[Link: www.moonbattery.com...]

AHHH!
NOOO!
Brain Bleach!
EYE WASH!

1048 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:53:10am

I loved to ride my motorcycle along those twisty Massachusetts roads while stationed at Ft. Devens in the early '70s. I could always tell when I crossed over into New Hampshire because the road would be suddenly smooth with no frost heaves or patchy roughness to speak of.
There was New Hampshire with its perfect gleaming highways and no personal income tax, and Massachusetts with mile after mile of beautiful, but kidney- whacking asphalt and the highest tax rate in the country...
about as fine a lesson for a young budding conservative as one could ask for.

1049 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:53:26am

re: #1038 MandyManners

You blew the margin!

It's just a little ice cream.

1050 Russkilitlover  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:53:52am

re: #1012 justabill

My brother was visiting England a few years back. Much to his surprise a girl asked him to "knock her up" in the morning.

For those outside of America, to get "Knocked up" is to become pregnant in US slang.

I was in England and my B&B host asked if I wanted any more toast. I leaned back a bit and said, "No thank you, I'm stuffed." Dead silence in the room and then tentative congratulations. Apparently it meant I was pregnant!

1051 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:54:13am

re: #1006 CapeCoddah

I just e-mailed Loppyd for a meeting with her to set up the lizard meet.
Will keep everyone updated. We want to do it before jetpilot is transferred out of Massachusetts.

Let me know as well. I live in central Mass, and I might not have much time, but if it is a weekday lunch (after Passover), I work near the Burlington Mall. Probably not too bad for Loppyd, but not so close to the Cape.

1052 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:54:18am

re: #1035 Occasional Reader

I did, too. Russell Crowe's first big break, if I'm not mistaken.

It's been so long since I've seen that (15 years), that I had to read the Wiki article to remember how it went.

1053 aussiemagpie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:54:20am

re: #1012 justabill

My brother was visiting England a few years back. Much to his surprise a girl asked him to "knock her up" in the morning.

For those outside of America, to get "Knocked up" is to become pregnant in US slang.

Hi, getting knocked up means the same here too :-)

One little thing we have in common!

1054 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:55:12am

re: #1029 Occasional Reader

Here's your reciprocity

1055 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:55:13am

Good news...
SEC OKs effort to limit short sales

The uptick rule, which was removed in 2007 after 70 years, allowed short sales only if the preceding sale boosted a company's stock price by at least a penny. The uptick rule was designed to make sure short sellers couldn't dominate trading in a stock to drive its price lower.
Some critics say the elimination of the uptick rule was a major factor in the bear market that has seen major stock averages fall 48% since peaking in October 2007, just three months after the rule was abolished. In October 2008, the SEC barred short sales of many financial corporations.

The repeal of the uptick rule (a bipartisan effort) was one of the main causes of the current economic crisis. Glad to see it back. This should help to stabilize the market.

1056 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:56:08am

re: #1027 VegasRick

Sucking down a fag is okay there as well.

Don't tell Barney Frank or he'll want to take a trip to England.

1057 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:56:24am

re: #1055 Killgore Trout

Good news...
SEC OKs effort to limit short sales

The repeal of the uptick rule (a bipartisan effort) was one of the main causes of the current economic crisis. Glad to see it back. This should help to stabilize the market.

Much needed, I agree, but Aw Shucks, just the same.

1058 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:57:22am

re: #1036 smokefire

According to that list Scarface is #41. UNF**KING believable.

I don't follow your comment, sorry.

1059 turn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:57:32am

re: #1054 Kenneth

Here's your reciprocity

Not much there to reciprocate with ...

1060 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:58:23am
1061 aussiemagpie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:59:56am

re: #1017 Ward Cleaver

Is that relatively new? Because the film Romper Stomper (I've seen it!), starring Russell Crowe, is on the Wiki list, with 119 uses of the F-bomb.

Hello Ward, greetings to your lovely June too!

We're lucky we have both words to use :-)

I'm supposing that in a movie meant for the US market, the F word would be used because American viewers might think the boys in the movie are supporting a sports team, or wondering about the state of their pot plants ...

1062 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:02:12am

re: #1039 Kosh's Shadow

I'd rather a few special forces teams. Shoot most of the pirates and leave the rest hanging. Do that to one pirate town and see if they decide to change their line of work.
The SEALS could come in at night, make holes in the pirate boats, and then deal with the pirates. Any that try to escape go down as well.

There is only one option for this situation.

PERIOD!

No talking. No offers
Extreme violence against all the pirates we can find, their facilities and support structure.

There is no state to deal with, anything less will only encourage more piracy.

We do everything to rescue the crew. However not acting sharply and with extreme violence will only put more crews in danger.

1063 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:08:11am

re: #1042 capitalist piglet

I'm glad you said "much", because (though I can't really own the "so-con" label...it doesn't seem to fit me exactly) we're not all the same.

I am one of the Christians here, and I have never asked anyone to control their language, nor would I. In fact, I've been known to fling a little here and there myself, but that's my problem. As far as that goes, I am only concerned about my own behavior - no one else's.

I love Mandy's posts, because she often expresses the sentiment I'm thinking but can't bring myself to type out. I upding her often. I've also seen her quote scripture, and I upding that too. She's great, imo.

More power to you, I wish so-called Christian "Family" groups were as understanding as you.

1064 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:08:45am

re: #1062 jcm

There is only one option for this situation.

PERIOD!

The only option is to make them bleed out of their vagina?

1065 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:09:26am

re: #1061 aussiemagpie

Hello Ward, greetings to your lovely June too!

We're lucky we have both words to use :-)

I'm supposing that in a movie meant for the US market, the F word would be used because American viewers might think the boys in the movie are supporting a sports team, or wondering about the state of their pot plants ...

Reefer Madness!

1066 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:10:15am

re: #1064 Hengineer

The only option is to make them bleed out of their vagina?

Mandy can I borrow that?

*WHACK*

1067 Canoe Train  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:10:15am

re: #1005 Hengineer

This discussion reminds me of an old song, from my undergraduate years (yes I know it is cheesy and cliché)

Color me Badd:

1068 Canoe Train  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:11:59am

re: #1059 turn

Quite the contrary. I can think of all sorts of reciprocity that would take place ( I really should plan a trip to Australia some day ) .

1069 opnion  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:13:20am

re: #936 smokefire

Obama not going to Omaha Beach cemetery, when in France would be like Lincoln not going the Gettysburg Cemetery

Visting Normandy would have been off message for BHO.
He was establishing to Europe that we are arrogant people without much worth. He was also establishing to the Ummah, that America is the problem, not wild eyed Jihadists.
Normandy would have been too much of an image of American nobility.
I did not always agree with W , but he is a quality individual, BJHO is not.

1070 aussiemagpie  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:19:37am

re: #1065 Hengineer

Reefer Madness!

Good one :-)

1071 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 1:12:38pm

Another conservative site talks aboutBeck.

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