World Net Daily Still Looking for That Nirth Certifikit

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Hey, I have a great idea! Why don’t we all just walk up to a brick wall and smash our heads into it over and over and over? I know; it sounds painful. But look on the bright side! It will feel so good when we pass out.

Hawaii lawmakers have voted to advance a resolution to make the apartment building where Barack Obama grew up a national landmark, yet there is still no move to recognize any island hospital as his birthplace. …

Even before being elected president, Obama was plagued with questions about his birthplace, which he claims is Honolulu. Because the campaign and the administration have refused to release a copy of his long-form birth certificate, which would put such questions to rest, dozens of lawsuits have been filed challenging his eligibility to serve as president under the Constitution’s “natural born citizen” clause.

While many of those lawsuits have been dismissed, most have not been heard for reasons of jurisdiction and standing, rather than on the evidence and merit of the challenges.

The one subject that has been avoided to date has been whether or not the president is, in fact, eligible. …

Obama reported in his autobiography that he was born in Honolulu, and the online “Certification of Live Birth” states that.

But when WND senior staff writer Jerome Corsi went there, he was told any Obama records were sealed, and although they would be released if the person made the request, Obama simply has refused to do that.

Corsi also traveled to Kenya where he was also told records pertaining to Obama in Kenya were sealed.

There also have been no confirmed hospital records uncovered that would document his birth, and an investigator even cast doubt on whether the Obama family lived at the address listed in the newspaper announcements.

(Hat tip: JammieWearingFool.)

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1031 comments
1 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:09:32pm

nirthball...it's a game anyone can learn!

2 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:09:32pm

It dropped out of Obama's pocket when he was talking to Prince Abdullah and he bent down quick and picked it up.

3 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:09:34pm

Lord, give it up, already.

4 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:09:48pm

When do we want to tell them I have it?

5 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:10:03pm

I don't think they know how embarrassing is it to watch this. They're free to carry on with marginalizing themselves.

6 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:10:07pm

Tea Party!

7 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:10:11pm

If a birth certificate is torn up in the middle of a forest and no one is there to witness it...does it make a sound?
/

8 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:10:52pm

Sekrits Under Seal!

9 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:11:16pm

If they didn't make conservatism look so dumb, I'd find them funny. What a buncha maroons.

10 MJ  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:11:26pm
But when WND senior staff writer Jerome Corsi went there, he was told any Obama records were sealed, and although they would be released if the person made the request, Obama simply has refused to do that.

This is the same Jerome Corsi who appeared on The Political Cesspool, an overtly racist, anti-Semitic radio show hosted by self-avowed white nationalist James Edwards.

Right. Very, very Far Right....

11 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:11:31pm

With so many REAL things we should be up in arms over, this is what they are clinging to? Good gravy, someone photoshop a darn birth certificate and be done with it!

12 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:12:03pm

re: #7 Oh no...Sand People!

Just what are you saying, Oh?

13 calcajun  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:12:29pm

Oh, this again. Why don't they just go French a wall outlet and get it over with.

14 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:12:37pm

Oh no! Seal-Kittenz has Nirth Certifikit!

15 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:12:44pm

re: #2 HelloDare

It dropped out of Obama's pocket when he was talking to Prince Abdullah and he bent down quick and picked it up.

You stole that joke from SpaceJesus.

:sings: now doesn't that make you feel better

16 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:12:46pm

No birth certificate. Barack Obama sprang from the sea mist. It's all in Stephen King's next book.

17 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:13:03pm

re: #10 MJ

I wish we had a different term for this - it makes being "Right" feel dirty. Can't we say these types are up or down or something? Or just call them for what they really are - nuts.

18 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:13:16pm

a NATIONAL LANDMARK!...so was the jail Billy the Kid busted out of...I'm thoroughly underwhelmed...it's like easy sex on the first date

19 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:13:24pm

Kan Ah sellz toxic azzets yet?

20 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:13:24pm

World Net Daily:

21 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:13:56pm

re: #12 Noam Sayin'

See #20

22 Adrenalyn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:14:14pm

what kind of traffic does that website get ?

not sure if it is a well-read blog/site or off the beaten path

23 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:14:16pm
Because the campaign and the administration have refused to release a copy of his long-form birth certificate, which would put such questions to rest, dozens of lawsuits have been filed challenging his eligibility to serve as president under the Constitution’s “natural born citizen” clause.

Idiots! While the long form will contain information, it in no way invalidates the information on the short form which clearly states he was born in Hawaii, and the certificate was filed 4 days after his birth. If that's not enough, than nothing will ever be enough for these people.

Lunacy!

24 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:14:24pm

re: #18 albusteve

Easy sex on a first date.....happy memories.

25 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:14:26pm

Wait, that's a sea lion.

26 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:14:27pm

OMG, I LOVE that picture and caption!

27 KingKenrod  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:14:32pm

This is getting to be like the lefties who say Bush stole the election. Aren't they ever going to give up?

28 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:14:41pm

re: #15 Zimriel

You stole that joke from SpaceJesus.

:sings: now doesn't that make you feel better

Space who? I know of no such person or thing. How could I steal a joke from..who was that again...?

29 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:14:42pm

teh sea kittehs haz it

/we iz lost at cardz! oh noes! we betted the certifikit!

30 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:14:47pm

re: #22 Adrenalyn

It's pretty popular among conservatives.

31 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:15:00pm

re: #24 WhiteRasta

Easy sex on a first date.....happy memories.

I've aged I guess

32 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:15:11pm

re: #19 jaunte

Kan Ah sellz toxic azzets yet?

Norf Coriah can haz missell?

33 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:15:17pm

re: #29 OldLineTexan

teh sea kittehs haz it

/we iz lost at cardz! oh noes! we betted the certifikit!

Building 7, Building 7! Take me to the Bilderbergs! ///

34 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:15:17pm

re: #20 Oh no...Sand People!

Just saw the teaser image; I'm not pressing play. That woman is scary.

35 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:15:41pm

I have a mental image of these idiots inhaling on a joint so deeply, they suck it right down into their anus.

/Unfortunately, physiology doesn't work that way.

36 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:16:00pm

This just makes Conservatives look foolish.

37 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:16:10pm

re: #35 pre-Boomer Marine brat

MWAH!

38 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:16:30pm

re: #32 Sharmuta

Iz awl n fun til sumwun baos.

39 Randall Gross  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:17:21pm

What's really sad is that there is so much loon spam out there nowadays that it's really hard rounding up the meaningful news in the mornings now. You have to wade through mountains of shit articles to find a few good ones. I guess the right is hooked on yellow journalism now, Thanks Rupert and co....

40 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:17:23pm

I'm now a neo-nonbelieveritist

41 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:17:36pm

re: #38 jaunte

Iz awl n fun til sumwun baos.

Not naow. Iz wachin birdie.

42 Adrenalyn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:17:40pm

I have to wonder aloud
did 0bama's doctor bow to his mom when he delivered him ?


/ducking

43 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:17:42pm

re: #10 MJ

This is the same Jerome Corsi who appeared on The Political Cesspool, an overtly racist, anti-Semitic radio show hosted by self-avowed white nationalist James Edwards.

He appeared on that show more than once. Another frequent guest on the Political Cesspool: David Duke.

44 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:17:51pm

While many of those lawsuits have been dismissed, most have not been heard for reasons of jurisdiction and standing, rather than on the evidence and merit of the challenges.

You mean the courts have actual rules?

/and here I thought that year of civil procedure in law school was just for fun

45 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:18:10pm

OT:
I am listening to the scanner and apparently my downtown area is on fire.
Zoiks!

46 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:18:12pm

re: #39 Thanos

What's really sad is that there is so much loon spam out there nowadays that it's really hard rounding up the meaningful news in the mornings now. You have to wade through mountains of shit articles to find a few good ones. I guess the right is hooked on yellow journalism now, Thanks Rupert and co....

FOX!...the gift that keeps on giving

47 Racer X  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:18:22pm

There could be video footage of Barry popping out of the womb and these people would still claim there is a conspiracy.

48 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:18:44pm

re: #37 goddessoftheclassroom

MWAH!

(Damn! I should'a looked around to see if she was here!)

er ... ah ... uh

49 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:19:14pm

re: #20 Oh no...Sand People!

World Net Daily:


[Video]

What the?! Who is that and is she on Fox?

50 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:19:15pm

Some entrepreneur could make a fortune selling Nirth Certificate copies on ebay. Of course, it wouldn't change their minds, but nothing will.

51 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:19:24pm

Hawaii lawmakers have voted to advance a resolution to make the apartment building where Barack Obama grew up a national landmark, yet there is still no move to recognize any island hospital as his birthplace.

my state tax dollars at play..................wo-hoo!

pau hana.......

52 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:19:37pm

re: #39 Thanos

What's really sad is that there is so much loon spam out there nowadays that it's really hard rounding up the meaningful news in the mornings now. You have to wade through mountains of shit articles to find a few good ones. I guess the right is hooked on yellow journalism now, Thanks Rupert and co....

Exactly right. I simply don't trust a lot of the stories I see on right-wing websites any more. I've had far too many cases in which I researched their overheated claims and discovered that they were either lying outright or exaggerating some aspect of the story.

53 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:19:58pm

show me your college history Barry...

54 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:20:00pm

re: #47 Racer X

There could be video footage of Barry popping out of the womb and these people would still claim there is a conspiracy.

Just like the moon landing. Maybe we should hire Buzz Aldrin.

55 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:20:07pm

re: #43 Charles

He appeared on that show more than once. Another frequent guest on the Political Cesspool: David Duke.

Well at least the title is truth-in-advertising: The show is a political cesspool.

56 Old Tanker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:20:59pm

Okay, someone educate me as to why, the POTUS doesn't just release the proper documents and put this to rest? This is not rhetorical, I'm truly curious, why not?

57 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:21:08pm

re: #48 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(Damn! I should'a looked around to see if she was here!)

er ... ah ... uh

As long as you understand how things work...

58 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:21:10pm

re: #49 Gus 802

What the?! Who is that and is she on Fox?

In my opinion it is what the conservative movement is up against and why we are failing.
But that's just me...

59 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:21:45pm

re: #13 calcajun

Oh, this again. Why don't they just go French a wall outlet and get it over with.

I just finished reading this post, and then came here! objectum sexuality indeed!

60 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:21:52pm

re: #53 albusteve

That's the more relevant issue!

61 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:21:52pm

re: #56 Old Tanker

Okay, someone educate me as to why, the POTUS doesn't just release the proper documents and put this to rest? This is not rhetorical, I'm truly curious, why not?

There is much profit in allowing the opposition to hang themselves with crazy talk.

62 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:21:57pm

re: #58 Oh no...Sand People!

In my opinion it is what the conservative movement is up against and why we are failing.
But that's just me...

Yeah, pretty much. I was going to make a joke about "maybe we can get her to speak at CPAC." ;)

63 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:22:14pm

re: #56 Old Tanker

Okay, someone educate me as to why, the POTUS doesn't just release the proper documents and put this to rest? This is not rhetorical, I'm truly curious, why not?

he's hiding the fact that he was actually born a female...Berri Obama

64 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:22:16pm

re: #56 Old Tanker

Okay, someone educate me as to why, the POTUS doesn't just release the proper documents and put this to rest? This is not rhetorical, I'm truly curious, why not?

Proper document after proper document has been released already. At this point he's enjoying watching the Right flounder.

65 WhiteRasta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:22:25pm

re: #56 Old Tanker

Why should he?

If he does, it will stir up another round of loony conspiracy foolishness.

66 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:22:26pm

We should create a society for the Nirthers.

Like "Nirth First!"

67 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:22:36pm

re: #56 Old Tanker

Okay, someone educate me as to why, the POTUS doesn't just release the proper documents and put this to rest? This is not rhetorical, I'm truly curious, why not?

I believe that he and his people have decided to let their opponents run in circles and froth. It probably gives them a good chuckle.

68 oh_dude  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:22:52pm

Speaking of cute animal usage... My wife giggles every time she sees this commercial

69 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:23:05pm

re: #52 Charles

Exactly right. I simply don't trust a lot of the stories I see on right-wing websites any more. I've had far too many cases in which I researched their overheated claims and discovered that they were either lying outright or exaggerating some aspect of the story.

As if the obfuscation we get from the msm wasn't bad enough, right wing blogs are playing along in promoting fluff or out right garbage. It's depressing, and sure not to serve us in regaining any political power.

70 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:23:06pm

re: #52 Charles

Exactly right. I simply don't trust a lot of the stories I see on right-wing websites any more. I've had far too many cases in which I researched their overheated claims and discovered that they were either lying outright or exaggerating some aspect of the story.

I trust you.

71 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:23:07pm

re: #61 Wishing

I thought he had a better thing going with the race card, really.

72 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:23:08pm

re: #56 Old Tanker

Okay, someone educate me as to why, the POTUS doesn't just release the proper documents and put this to rest? This is not rhetorical, I'm truly curious, why not?

One: He doesn't need to (legally).

Two: He's probably having a great deal of fun watching political enemies make asses of themselves.

/Chicago politics are about getting the other guy by the balls

73 Old Tanker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:23:16pm

re: #61 Wishing

There is much profit in allowing the opposition to hang themselves with crazy talk.

Why?

74 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:23:20pm

re: #60 ArmyWife

That's the more relevant issue!

he's foolish to think it won't come out someday

75 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:23:30pm

re: #63 albusteve

he's hiding the fact that he was actually born a female...Berri Obama

Berry Halle Obama

BHO

////

76 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:23:39pm

re: #56 Old Tanker

Okay, someone educate me as to why, the POTUS doesn't just release the proper documents and put this to rest? This is not rhetorical, I'm truly curious, why not?

He did release his birth certificate!

77 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:23:45pm

re: #56 Old Tanker

Okay, someone educate me as to why, the POTUS doesn't just release the proper documents and put this to rest? This is not rhetorical, I'm truly curious, why not?

1) Adequate legal documents have already been released.

2) The state of Hawaii has vouched for the existence of the official document.

3) Loads of supporting evidence exists (local birth notices, Obama's own story etc.)

4) Nothing will put this to rest no matter what comes out.

78 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:24:01pm

Don't fret over the extremes of blogdom. Nothing to be done about it.

79 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:24:09pm

re: #41 Sharmuta

Not naow. Iz wachin birdie.

Mirz on teh top?

80 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:24:24pm

re: #64 Zimriel

Proper document after proper document has been released already. At this point he's enjoying watching the Right flounder.

it's not the entire 'right'...just some zealots on the fringe, regardless of what Killgore says

81 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:24:30pm

re: #51 IslandLibertarian

Hawaii lawmakers have voted to advance a resolution to make the apartment building where Barack Obama grew up a national landmark, yet there is still no move to recognize any island hospital as his birthplace.

my state tax dollars at play..................wo-hoo!

pau hana.......

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

My older son was born at home in Oxford, England because he arrived VERY fast. Luckily, two midwives and a doctor arrived at our home--a graduate student "house" with a downstairs (living room and kitchen) and an upstairs (bedroom and TINY bathroom). He's a natural born US citizen because I'm a US citizen, but the idea of making that little "house" a landmark should he become president is hilarious!

82 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:24:37pm

Certifikit is burrid on grassy noll

83 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:24:47pm

re: #67 jaunte

I think it's because he doesn't want too - and he is a bit of a power hungry bear, isn't he? Sad thing is, even if he DID release it - we'd be right where we are now - being lead by an inept schmuck. The only difference would be the new new new conspiracy like Obama is from Mars or something.

84 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:24:48pm

re: #57 goddessoftheclassroom

As long as you understand how things work...

MWAH!

Try that one again.
Can't get the link to work.

85 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:24:54pm

re: #56 Old Tanker
You could give each and every Nirther a certified copy and they still wouldn't believe it.

86 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:25:10pm

re: #73 Old Tanker

Why?

If you don't know, I doubt that anything I say will have any impact on you.

87 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:25:37pm

re: #56 Old Tanker

Okay, someone educate me as to why, the POTUS doesn't just release the proper documents and put this to rest? This is not rhetorical, I'm truly curious, why not?

He has released it. You can see it for yourself right here.
[Link: www.factcheck.org...]

88 calcajun  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:26:29pm

re: #27 KingKenrod

This is getting to be like the lefties who say Bush stole the election. Aren't they ever going to give up?

89 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:26:36pm

re: #82 jaunte

Certifikit is burrid on grassy noll

Iz birdie dere?

90 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:26:40pm

re: #84 pre-Boomer Marine brat

MWAH!

Try that one again.
Can't get the link to work.

Take 2...

91 quickjustice  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:26:42pm

I met Corsi at a cocktail party here in NYC about a year ago. He was working on his book, Obamanation. I was surprised to learn of his neo-
Nazi connections here on LGF. I sent him a really stern e-mail about how those connections would hurt him. Did he take any lesson from that? (Probably not).

I remember reading somewhere that Corsi's life was threatened in Kenya. Is that because he was stupid, or because the Kenyans are trying to protect Obama, or both?

92 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:27:00pm

re: #76 Sharmuta

He did release his birth certificate!

that's just a picture...why isn't jeralldo what's his name on this?

93 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:27:05pm

re: #89 Sharmuta

Birdie is all ova.

94 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:27:06pm

I swear, it's getting to the point that I'm uneasy calling myself a conservative lately.

95 Emphasis  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:27:17pm

Such an easy thing to resolve. Release the dam birth certificate in pink paper if they so want and put an end to this idiocy.

96 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:27:24pm

I have an idea, throw all the Nirthers in the FEMA detention camps.

/neither conspiracy theory to be heard of again, problem solved

97 Old Tanker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:27:30pm
Proper document after proper document has been released already. At this point he's enjoying watching the Right flounder.

If he does, it will stir up another round of loony conspiracy foolishness.

I believe that he and his people have decided to let their opponents run in circles and froth. It probably gives them a good chuckle.

Two: He's probably having a great deal of fun watching political enemies make asses of themselves.

/Chicago politics are about getting the other guy by the balls

So we're passing off one conspiracy theory for some others.......that clears up alot....

oops, I guess I shouldn't ask then
98 That's Mr. President to you  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:27:35pm

re: #56 Old Tanker

Okay, someone educate me as to why, the POTUS doesn't just release the proper documents and put this to rest? This is not rhetorical, I'm truly curious, why not?

OK.

I will level with you.

Think "Immaculate Conception" and "Virgin Birth".

The State of Hawaii didn't have standard forms labeled "Record of Virgin Birth".

This is a problem that has plagued me throughout my life - I am just so special and this ordinary just world has to cope.

99 MJ  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:28:00pm

re: #43 Charles

He appeared on that show more than once. Another frequent guest on the Political Cesspool: David Duke.

Other Cesspool guests:

Gordon Baum - CEO, Council of Conservative Citizens
Patrick J. Buchanan - Author, Former Presidential Candidate
Willis Carto - American Free Press Newspaper ( Anti-Semitic Liberty Lobby)
Doug French - Editor of Liberty Watch Magazine; columnist for LewRockwell.com
Michael Gaddy - Columnist for LewRockwell.com
Nick Griffin - Chairman, British National Party
Professor David Ray Griffin - Author, 9/11 Truth Expert ( !)
Karen Kwiatowski - Former Pentagon Insider
Prussian Blue - Twin Sisters, singing duo
Kyle Rogers - Webmaster, Council of Conservative Citizens
Bill Rolen - Board Member, Council of Conservative Citizens
Mark Weber - Director, Institute of Historical Review

Yikes....

100 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:28:03pm

re: #91 quickjustice

Both. Oh wait - he went to Harvard! He must be brilliant under our NEW brilliance testing methods!

101 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:28:06pm

re: #82 jaunte

Certifikit is burrid on grassy noll

Did the 2nd shooter bury it there?

102 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:28:22pm

re: #47 Racer X

ew. Post a warning with comments like that! :)

103 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:28:27pm

re: #94 irongrampa

I swear, it's getting to the point that I'm uneasy calling myself a conservative lately.

It's okay to be a conservative---just not a kookservative.

104 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:28:40pm

re: #80 albusteve

it's not the entire 'right'...just some zealots on the fringe, regardless of what Killgore says

Yeah, I know, I used to blast Killgore for lumping the whole Right together too.

That's becoming more and more difficult these days.

105 Emperor Norton  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:28:54pm

Just minutes ago, I saw an ad on the right-hand border of Little Green Footballs, sponsored by Human Events, advertising something to do with Ann Coulter. (If it's any consolation, it was in the far right edge of the LGF web page.)

106 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:28:58pm

re: #98 That's Mr. President to you

OK.

I will level with you.

Think "Immaculate Conception" and "Virgin Birth".

The State of Hawaii didn't have standard forms labeled "Record of Virgin Birth".

This is a problem that has plagued me throughout my life - I am just so special and this ordinary just world has to cope.

How was your trip to Europe? Did you enjoy Iraq?

107 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:29:26pm

Okay, color me dense.

How is a State Certified Copy of a Birth Certificate not a Birth Certificate?

I have the one my parents were given by the County Registrar at my Birth. It's a Notarized Copy.

I have a print out of a State Certified Copy that looks like Obama, printed on a sheet off paper on a laser printer from data in the State Database, which was good enough for DOE to give me a TS/SAP/SAR clearance.

BTW when the data was entered into the Database from the original, the original was destroyed to save on storage costs.

Help me out, nirthers, I'm I not a citizen?

108 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:29:27pm

Thanks for the HT, Charles.

I saw this story about the apartment Obama living in being listed as a landmark and before you know it they veer off into the fever swamp.

The neo-Nazi's favorite pinup girl probably has it as breaking news.

109 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:29:31pm

re: #80 albusteve

it's not the entire 'right'...just some zealots on the fringe, regardless of what Killgore says

Really?

When two people who apparently have bought into this crap appear in the first 100 comments of this thread, I think the problem is a lot more serious than you think.

110 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:29:49pm

re: #93 jaunte

Birdie is all ova.

Dis kitteh dizee.

111 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:30:00pm

re: #103 VioletTiger

It's okay to be a conservative---just not a kookservative.

If you took an inventory of some of the more recent kooky stuff that out there it sure raises some eyebrows. This is only the beginning I think and it will get worse. Heck, it hasn't even been 100 days yet and already it's turned into a circus.

112 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:30:10pm

re: #103 VioletTiger

Well, I don't buy any of the bullshit, but I do lean pretty far right.

113 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:30:11pm

Jerome Corsi is a frequent guest on Art bell's old show, Coast to Coast now hosted by george Noori.

114 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:30:39pm

"Mr President, your failure to publish any of your work for the HLR is unprecedented...will you explain to our viewers why and how this unusual situation came to be?"

115 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:31:18pm

re: #90 goddessoftheclassroom

Take 2...

HEH!
That one worked

and now .... *TA DA*

Search For Tomorrow !

116 Cognito  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:31:29pm

re: #109 Charles

Really?

When two people who apparently have bought into this crap appear in the first 100 comments of this thread, I think the problem is a lot more serious than you think.

Bear in mind that Internet comments sections are far, far from an accurate cross-section of the population.

I agree there's some sort of weirdo, Beckish movement afoot. But it's reactionary and, ultimately, in the wings.

117 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:31:29pm

re: #113 BatGuano

Jerome Corsi is a frequent guest on Art bell's old show, Coast to Coast now hosted by george Noori.

Does that mean that Noori probes Corsi?

//Has Corsi been probed by aliens?

//

118 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:31:35pm

Nirthers. Stop. Please.

I guess I didn't like winning elections anyway...

119 teleskiguy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:31:43pm

Hey, I have a great idea! Why don’t we all just walk up to a brick wall and smash our heads into it over and over and over?

Uhhhh (bleeding profusely from forehead and temples) aaaarrgh! Charles, not so good an idea. I tried it. I think I have to go to the hospital now. hh..hhh...hhh...hh.it's gettin dark....DOY!

120 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:31:46pm

1 block of downtown is on fire. (very small town, so this is huge)

121 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:32:00pm

re: #112 irongrampa

Well, I don't buy any of the bullshit, but I do lean pretty far right.

Right is fine. Just not over the cliff with the Nirthers.

122 Kronocide  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:32:13pm

I have evidence of thermite ink on the alleged birth certifikates.

I can't wait for the bitchy little cat fight for where Obama's presidential library will go: Chitown or Oahu. The last story in the local paper about all of his favorite places to eat, including interviews with the managers with in depth insight of O's favorite grinds, warranted two full pages in the A section.

Can't wait for that.

123 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:32:21pm

re: #120 Wishing

1 block of downtown is on fire. (very small town, so this is huge)

Where?

124 Emerald  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:32:38pm

Everyone knows that those birth announcements were plants planted to plant the foundation of Obama's illegal quest to become Master of the Universe! Lenin and Stalin even piloted the space ship that went back in time to do it. Then they stopped at a Burger King, and Elvis dished up their meals himself. All three of them went out cruising, hooked up with Bigfoot-ettes and made alien hybrid babies.

Just sticking with the WWN angle.

125 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:32:46pm

re: #120 Wishing

1 block of downtown is on fire. (very small town, so this is huge)

Where do you live? Do you know what happened?

126 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:32:49pm

re: #94 irongrampa

Don't. They are loons. Nuts. Goof balls. Both sides have them..hey, here's an idea! Let's get the freaks from the left, and this group of lunatics together on an Island for a new game show! We shall call it "Conspiracy". Each team must concoct a ridiculous theory. They then tell the theory on TV (Thursday nights). Whichever side has the most tangled web of "proofs" and "facts" directly from Kenyan and/or other African Nation lawyers and websites wins. Each week they must up the ante on lunacy - and then vote each other off the island.

Living alone in an apartment is affecting my thinking skillz.

127 okiej  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:32:51pm

re: #120 Wishing

1 block of downtown is on fire. (very small town, so this is huge)

Where?

128 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:33:26pm

re: #123 jcm

Where?

Little town in NE TN, Erwin

129 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:33:38pm

re: #124 Emerald

Everyone knows that those birth announcements were plants planted to plant the foundation of Obama's illegal quest to become Master of the Universe! Lenin and Stalin even piloted the space ship that went back in time to do it. Then they stopped at a Burger King, and Elvis dished up their meals himself. All three of them went out cruising, hooked up with Bigfoot-ettes and made alien hybrid babies.

Just sticking with the WWN angle.

So what you're saying then is that Bob Dylan is Obama's real father? //

130 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:33:52pm

re: #107 jcm

oh noes!

131 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:34:25pm

re: #117 Gus 802

Noori questions no guest. He just listens in wide-eyed wonder.

132 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:34:56pm

re: #116 Cognito

Bear in mind that Internet comments sections are far, far from an accurate cross-section of the population.

I agree there's some sort of weirdo, Beckish movement afoot. But it's reactionary and, ultimately, in the wings.

I hope you're right, Cog.

133 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:35:15pm

re: #128 Wishing

Little town in NE TN, Erwin

Prayers for everyone's safety.

134 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:35:23pm

re: #109 Charles

Really?

When two people who apparently have bought into this crap appear in the first 100 comments of this thread, I think the problem is a lot more serious than you think.

well they don't have all of us yet and I'm dismayed if the issue is moving from the fringe to the mainstream...you would have a pulse on that more than most...I'm known to misplace my seriousness...it's taking on a sureal quality that is easy to dismiss

135 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:36:18pm

re: #126 ArmyWife

Don't. They are loons. Nuts. Goof balls. Both sides have them..hey, here's an idea! Let's get the freaks from the left, and this group of lunatics together on an Island for a new game show! We shall call it "Conspiracy". Each team must concoct a ridiculous theory.

I have a pretty good idea as to the scapegoat they'd agree on. :^/

136 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:36:36pm

re: #131 BatGuano

Noori questions no guest. He just listens in wide-eyed wonder.

I think I listened to Art Bell once. The callers were out there in who knows what field. It's like this odd crossover mix of left and right winged conspiracies. One second you think they're left and the next right but the common ideology is the crazy-wing.

137 That's Mr. President to you  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:36:49pm

re: #106 Dark_Falcon

How was your trip to Europe? Did you enjoy Iraq?

Europe was great.

Iraq sucked.

You now that you can't get a decent waffle in Baghdad? It just sucks. And Arugula - the place would be perfect for growing Arugula. Dry but with rivers nearby. But do they grow it? No!

And they knew I was coming!

One of my staff members mumbled something about "subsistence farming" and "local markets" and crap like that. You would think that - with all of the money I send there - that they might just grow some Arugula and open a Waffle House or two.

138 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:36:50pm

re: #129 Gus 802

So what you're saying then is that Bob Dylan is Obama's real father? //

Blind Barry McTell

139 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:36:54pm

re: #124 Emerald

The most pathetic thing about this stupid drama was the "debunking" of the newspaper announcements. What a complete load a trash that claim was. Worthy of promotion by nazi apologists, frankly.

140 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:37:04pm

re: #128 Wishing

Little town in NE TN, Erwin

Small FD, hope they have lots of firefighters coming in from around the area.

141 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:37:59pm

re: #139 Sharmuta

The most pathetic thing about this stupid drama was the "debunking" of the newspaper announcements. What a complete load a trash that claim was. Worthy of promotion by nazi apologists, frankly.

Yes. The "questionable spacing" angle. Hilarious!

142 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:38:14pm

re: #115 pre-Boomer Marine brat

HEH!
That one worked

and now .... *TA DA*

Search For Tomorrow !

LOL!
(so was the other one!)
An uncharacteristic moment of self-doubt...

143 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:38:24pm

re: #133 jcm

Prayers for everyone's safety.

Thanks, has been going on for about 3 hours now, homes evacuated, church at risk from embers. Pretty scary. Apparently fire started in old munciple building near our jail. I am a dispatcher for the Sheriff's office and all my guys are out there, sheriff, police, fire , EMT's.
They are keeping the roof of our jail soaked down to protect the building and the inmates and US!

144 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:38:25pm

re: #137 That's Mr. President to you

Forgive me, your excellency, for correcting you, but the Iraq gig was a surprise stop to rally the troops, remember?

145 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:38:36pm

re: #136 Gus 802

That's the beauty of it! It is so f****d up it's entertaining.

146 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:00pm

re: #95 Emphasis

Such an easy thing to resolve. Release the dam birth certificate in pink paper if they so want and put an end to this idiocy.

No one would ever question paper if it's pink.

147 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:18pm

re: #140 jcm

Small FD, hope they have lots of firefighters coming in from around the area.

Sure do, I just heard the ladder truck arrive from the next county. And I also heard another county offer any assistance.

148 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:25pm

re: #141 Bloodnok

Yes. The "questionable spacing" angle. Hilarious!

And all work of the CIA! Booga booga!

149 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:26pm

re: #113 BatGuano

Jerome Corsi is a frequent guest on Art bell's old show, Coast to Coast now hosted by george Noori.

My father-in-law is a hard-left kook and he listens to that crap. I wouldn't have known Sonny Bono was murdered if it wasn't for him. He's at that age where he forgets he tells me that bizarre story every time I see him.

150 Emerald  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:28pm

re: #129 Gus 802

So what you're saying then is that Bob Dylan is Obama's real father? //

Morris the Cat. Let's see who can figure that one out. Bwhahahaha

151 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:30pm

re: #143 Wishing

Thanks, has been going on for about 3 hours now, homes evacuated, church at risk from embers. Pretty scary. Apparently fire started in old munciple building near our jail. I am a dispatcher for the Sheriff's office and all my guys are out there, sheriff, police, fire , EMT's.
They are keeping the roof of our jail soaked down to protect the building and the inmates and US!

{Prayers)

152 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:33pm

re: #141 Bloodnok

I missed that (its ok, really). Questionable spacing? Of the letters or what is between their ears?

153 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:48pm

re: #146 jaunte

No one would ever question paper if it's pink.

Iz purty.

154 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:39:52pm

re: #145 BatGuano

That's the beauty of it! It is so f****d up it's entertaining.

I can see that. I tried listening to it for entertainment but found it depressing. Sort of like watching COPS.

155 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:40:05pm
156 MJ  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:40:35pm

Charles:

Is The Political Cesspool reading us?

Check this out on their blog.

It’s Jews and their sycophants calling each other commies, Nazis, liberals, Jewhaters, Muslim sympathizers, racists and oh yeah, infiltrators. The Jew calling Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs an infiltrator is the same one who claims that the CIA created a phony 50 year old Hawaiian newspaper in order to pull off the Great Obama Birth Certificate Conspiracy.


I don't think I'll link to it.

157 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:40:42pm

re: #142 goddessoftheclassroom

LOL!
(so was the other one!)
An uncharacteristic moment of self-doubt...

Did somebody say badgers? We don't need no stinkin badgers!
[Link: cuteoverload.com...]

158 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:41:00pm

re: #150 Emerald

Morris the Cat. Let's see who can figure that one out. Bwhahahaha

I can't think of anything other than an orange tabby.

159 That's Mr. President to you  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:41:08pm

re: #144 ArmyWife

Forgive me, your excellency, for correcting you, but the Iraq gig was a surprise stop to rally the troops, remember?

Troops? Oh - the guys in the tacky cammo leisure suits ... If their heads weren't shaved you'd think they were all there for a Sammy Hagar concert.

160 Emerald  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:41:10pm

re: #139 Sharmuta

The most pathetic thing about this stupid drama was the "debunking" of the newspaper announcements. What a complete load a trash that claim was. Worthy of promotion by nazi apologists, frankly.

It's amazing the depths people will go to avoid reality. They don't like Obama. I get it; I'm no fan myself. But sinking into insanity to try to "prove" he can't be president is pathetic. I'd feel sorry for them, but they've done it to themselves.

161 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:41:19pm

re: #157 VioletTiger

Did somebody say badgers? We don't need no stinkin badgers!
[Link: cuteoverload.com...]

How cute!

162 Cognito  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:41:31pm

re: #132 Dark_Falcon

I hope you're right, Cog.

I think the larger, more frightening shift is what I'll call a 'factual illiteracy' throughout the country. So much of our citizenry -- of every political persuasion -- now displays a lack of critical thinking that worries me.

This may bring me in for a round of lumps, but I think technology has a great deal to do with that. The Internet levels all utterings; the spoutings of some loon occupy the same pixels as the reasoned and contrary opinions of, say Thomas Sowell and Christopher Hitchens. And the same pixels as, more alarmingly, actual factual reportage.

People have lost the ability to distinguish among those things. And I see it on the left and right in similar proportions. Quite possible the center as well, although the center is more static, so it's hard to tell.

163 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:41:33pm

re: #156 MJ

Dense, like fruitcake.

164 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:41:56pm

re: #124 Emerald

Everyone knows that those birth announcements were plants planted to plant the foundation of Obama's illegal quest to become Master of the Universe! Lenin and Stalin even piloted the space ship that went back in time to do it. Then they stopped at a Burger King, and Elvis dished up their meals himself. All three of them went out cruising, hooked up with Bigfoot-ettes and made alien hybrid babies.

Just sticking with the WWN angle.

Well they can't be Princes of the Universe, because Queen beat 'em to it:

165 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:42:20pm

re: #161 goddessoftheclassroom

How cute!

I want one.

166 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:42:30pm

re: #159 That's Mr. President to you

I bet.

167 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:42:43pm

re: #156 MJ

They must have computers in sanatoriums these days.

168 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:42:55pm

re: #165 VioletTiger

How about a chihuahua? I'll send you one, and you get another free!

169 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:00pm

re: #147 Wishing

Sure do, I just heard the ladder truck arrive from the next county. And I also heard another county offer any assistance.

It's been a long time since I put on the gear, but it never leaves the blood. Wish I could be there to lend a hand.

170 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:10pm

re: #152 ArmyWife

I missed that (its ok, really). Questionable spacing? Of the letters or what is between their ears?

Both. I won't link to the nutjob that Geller used as a source. The guy was a racist and (IIRC) a troofer, but that's never stopped her from getting a scoop before. The guy had an expose about how his mother wasn't his mother and her sister wasn't her sister, or something equally as inane.

171 Taqyia2Me  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:12pm

It's almost as if the dem/mfm/lll cabal is paying folk like wnd to keep this shit up.
(menawhile another industry inches toward nationalization....)

172 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:12pm

re: #142 goddessoftheclassroom

LOL!
(so was the other one!)
An uncharacteristic moment of self-doubt...

er ... uh ... well ... ur ....

173 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:40pm

re: #149 JammieWearingFool

I see. The tree didn't kill Sonny Bono? You're a saint. My mom is the same way. :)

174 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:41pm

i dunno, maybe they refused out of sheer arrogance, and no one caught on. Or it was a distraction.

Or I no longer give a shit.

175 alegrias  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:43:51pm

Thank you all for going to these sick sites on the left and right--so I don't have to.

176 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:44:11pm

re: #169 jcm

It's been a long time since I put on the gear, but it never leaves the blood. Wish I could be there to lend a hand.

In honor of our first responders

177 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:44:41pm

re: #159 That's Mr. President to you

Troops? Oh - the guys in the tacky cammo leisure suits ... If their heads weren't shaved you'd think they were all there for a Sammy Hagar concert.

Well, at least you're home. Have you tried out the Waffle Sandwich at Dunkin' Doughnuts? They created it in your honor, you know. :D

178 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:44:43pm

Enjoy lizards.
Later.

179 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:44:59pm

re: #172 pre-Boomer Marine brat

er ... uh ... well ... ur ....

*applauding* Bravo. This round goes to you.

MWAH!

180 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:44:59pm

the truth is becoming the most elusive sought after critter in the world...but as soon as it's spotted it is run off to the nethers by lies and bullshit and distortion and folly...it is so hard sometimes to coax that beast out from hiding...it knows it's gonna get hammered by falsehood...some day it will take off and never come back

181 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:45:19pm

re: #168 ArmyWife

How about a chihuahua? I'll send you one, and you get another free!


I don't know. He's too small. My cats would shred him.

182 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:45:28pm

re: #160 Emerald

It's amazing the depths people will go to avoid reality. They don't like Obama. I get it; I'm no fan myself. But sinking into insanity to try to "prove" he can't be president is pathetic. I'd feel sorry for them, but they've done it to themselves.

I believe now that all the years we've watched the left act like fools was actually creating a sort of jealousy in some. They want to behave the same way because thinking seriously about civic issues is, you know, work. Why put up with that when you can be as bad as you want to be by claiming tu quoque?

183 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:45:36pm

re: #175 alegrias

Went to all the major left sites once each, just to see.

Holy crap.

184 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:45:39pm

re: #156 MJ

That's James Edwards.

185 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:45:52pm

re: #162 Cognito

I think the larger, more frightening shift is what I'll call a 'factual illiteracy' throughout the country. So much of our citizenry -- of every political persuasion -- now displays a lack of critical thinking that worries me.

This may bring me in for a round of lumps, but I think technology has a great deal to do with that. The Internet levels all utterings; the spoutings of some loon occupy the same pixels as the reasoned and contrary opinions of, say Thomas Sowell and Christopher Hitchens. And the same pixels as, more alarmingly, actual factual reportage.

People have lost the ability to distinguish among those things. And I see it on the left and right in similar proportions. Quite possible the center as well, although the center is more static, so it's hard to tell.

That deserves an upding, not a beating.

186 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:46:13pm

re: #154 Gus 802

I know what you. I can't watch Cops anymore, but I still listen to Noori occasionally

187 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:46:36pm

re: #170 Bloodnok

Both. I won't link to the nutjob that Geller used as a source. The guy was a racist and (IIRC) a troofer, but that's never stopped her from getting a scoop before. The guy had an expose about how his mother wasn't his mother and her sister wasn't her sister, or something equally as inane.

Yes! And his father wasn't his father. This guy thought none of 0bama's family was his. Insane.

188 Cognito  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:47:05pm

re: #185 Dark_Falcon

Much obliged.

189 kansas  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:47:36pm

re: #64 Zimriel

Proper document after proper document has been released already. At this point he's enjoying watching the Right flounder.

Part of the plan I'd say. When he fucks up look for:
1. The bowing story
2. The nirth story

Since we've seen both of these in one day apparently they feel he really fucked up.

190 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:47:43pm

The kooks have to know 0bama was born in Hawaii. My guess is that the long version of the birth document would show Daddy's religious affiliation as being Muslim. It gives the nuts more information to grow conspiracies around.

191 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:47:51pm
192 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:48:34pm

re: #169 jcm

It's been a long time since I put on the gear, but it never leaves the blood. Wish I could be there to lend a hand.

Thank you so much! You guys are my heroes!

193 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:48:57pm

re: #179 goddessoftheclassroom

*applauding* Bravo. This round goes to you.

MWAH!

*bowing humbly and gratefully*
Thank you, thank you.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmWWWWWWWWWWAH

194 Racer X  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:48:58pm

re: #189 kansas

Part of the plan I'd say. When he fucks up look for:
1. The bowing story
2. The nirth story

Since we've seen both of these in one day apparently they feel he really fucked up.

So, when Obama stumbles, his minions trot out these conspiracy stories to distract the masses?

195 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:49:15pm

I usually don't shamelessly promote anything but...well, I have to this time. I just created a fun little blog called LGF WATCH WATCH

If you're interested in posting content and analyzing the idiots over at LGF Watch well, feel free to let me know.

196 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:49:17pm

re: #180 albusteve

the truth is becoming the most elusive sought after critter in the world...but as soon as it's spotted it is run off to the nethers by lies and bullshit and distortion and folly...it is so hard sometimes to coax that beast out from hiding...it knows it's gonna get hammered by falsehood...some day it will take off and never come back

I set up a motion sensor camera in the woods to try to prove its existence, but I only got a few blurry shots of a couple of half-truths stopping to feed, an innuendo and calf, and a rather mangy looking fib.

197 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:49:45pm

Oops, lost track. James Edwards was already mentioned. Talk about human scum.

198 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:49:59pm

re: #176 goddessoftheclassroom

In honor of our first responders

I made a memorable rescue of a parrot once. We get things under control, but there is this ungodly shrieking sound in the house. We are look for a smoke detector or alarm or something to shut off the racket. It was so loud it was hard to find the source. I finally tracked down the sound, under a china closet, smoke was still to thick to really see, so I stick a hand underneath and try to feel for what ever it was.

Suddenly a chomp on my thumb, with my gloves it didn't do any damage but startled me, I yank my hand out.... with a parrot attached. Now that his beak was on my thumb, the racket stopped.

One parrot safe, one sore thumb!

199 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:50:18pm

re: #196 Bloodnok

I set up a motion sensor camera in the woods to try to prove its existence, but I only got a few blurry shots of a couple of half-truths stopping to feed, an innuendo and calf, and a rather mangy looking fib.

excellent

200 Old Tanker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:50:29pm
When two people who apparently have bought into this crap appear in the first 100 comments of this thread, I think the problem is a lot more serious than you think.


re: #116 Cognito

Bear in mind that Internet comments sections are far, far from an accurate cross-section of the population.

I agree there's some sort of weirdo, Beckish movement afoot. But it's reactionary and, ultimately, in the wings.

Of course it's in the wings which is why I asked the question.........every time I heard this stuff my bullshit detector went off but I keep seeing that Charles has a need to keep debunking it. So I ask why? I haven't "bought into this crap" so I never really looked into it. The obvious question is why the POTUS didn't put it to rest and I get 2 links that answer my question, a bunch of sarcasm (I expected that) and somehow "I've bought into this crap" sheesh, wrong place to ask a question.

201 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:50:38pm

re: #17 ArmyWife

I wish we had a different term for this - it makes being "Right" feel dirty. Can't we say these types are up or down or something? Or just call them for what they really are - nuts.

"Raving monster loonies" works for me.

202 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:50:44pm

re: #198 jcm

What a great story! I'm giggling at the mental picture.

203 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:50:50pm

Doesn't world nut daily claim to be big defenders of Christians too? How is focusing on this issue promoting Christian values more than, say, starting a fund to help Italy recover from the earthquake?

204 kansas  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:50:54pm

re: #194 Racer X

So, when Obama stumbles, his minions trot out these conspiracy stories to distract the masses?

That's my theory for today.

205 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:51:12pm

re: #181 VioletTiger

One ignores my cat, the other really wants to be my cat's friend. Every time he sees her, he runs up to her thinking "Do you want to be my friend now?" and she smacks him. His ears go down and he skulks away. 15 minutes later, same thing. On and on, over and over.

206 Emerald  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:51:13pm

re: #158 Gus 802

I can't think of anything other than an orange tabby.

Morris the Cat is the Master of the Universe. Or at least they were voiced by the same guy. Random bit of trivia that got stuck in my brain.

207 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:51:53pm

re: #198 jcm

I made a memorable rescue of a parrot once. We get things under control, but there is this ungodly shrieking sound in the house. We are look for a smoke detector or alarm or something to shut off the racket. It was so loud it was hard to find the source. I finally tracked down the sound, under a china closet, smoke was still to thick to really see, so I stick a hand underneath and try to feel for what ever it was.

Suddenly a chomp on my thumb, with my gloves it didn't do any damage but startled me, I yank my hand out.... with a parrot attached. Now that his beak was on my thumb, the racket stopped.

One parrot safe, one sore thumb!

That's simply aMaiseying!

208 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:51:57pm

Good evening, lizards, just stopping by for awhile in between some chores and paper work. Hope everyone is well.

Wishing, prayers for all the folks in your town. That's awful.

209 hazzyday  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:52:11pm

where the nirthers go wrong. from WND

According to much legal research, at the time of Obama's birth he could be a natural born citizen by being born in the United States, by being born to two U.S. citizen parents (not possible because of his father), or, if only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of the birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.

The problem is, Obama's mother was only 18 when she gave birth, so his only apparent route to "natural born" citizenship status would have been to be born in Hawaii.

Some discrimination against single moms going on there in those rules. Single mom not having the same rights as a married person. Anyone giving birth before age 21 is a second class citizen if they spent one year overseas and their SO left them.

210 Randall Gross  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:53:03pm

re: #162 Cognito

I think the larger, more frightening shift is what I'll call a 'factual illiteracy' throughout the country. So much of our citizenry -- of every political persuasion -- now displays a lack of critical thinking that worries me.

This may bring me in for a round of lumps, but I think technology has a great deal to do with that. The Internet levels all utterings; the spoutings of some loon occupy the same pixels as the reasoned and contrary opinions of, say Thomas Sowell and Christopher Hitchens. And the same pixels as, more alarmingly, actual factual reportage.

People have lost the ability to distinguish among those things. And I see it on the left and right in similar proportions. Quite possible the center as well, although the center is more static, so it's hard to tell.

This is kinda what I was hinting at a couple of years back, maybe it was even in a conversation with you. There has to be a better way on the internet to establish trust and authority. It can't be based on just page hits and numbers of links anymore since there are automated means around both.

Trust is something you establish over time, and over time the loons will fall to the wayside. It's just going to take a long time as long as there is money behind the American Chronicles, WND, VDARE, etc.

Their day will come.

What's really needed is other conservative publishers than Regnery, and with net publishing that day is coming.

212 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:53:04pm

OT but good news:

12 Arrested in British Police Terror Raid

Note how the AP never mentions the critical word for understanding the story: Islam.

213 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:53:05pm

re: #201 Alberta Oil Peon

someone up thread deemed it the Crazy Wing, and umbrella term for both sides! I love it.

214 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:53:17pm

re: #173 BatGuano

I see. The tree didn't kill Sonny Bono? You're a saint. My mom is the same way. :)

The tree didn't kill Sonny Bono. Hitting the tree at high speed killed Sonny Bono.

/

215 The Shadow Do  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:53:40pm

re: #155 taxfreekiller

If Obama were to have been born on planet Zepop, he would this day be a Rev. Wright redistribution of other peoples money commie.

so "like", who cares if he were born under a rock in Castros Cuba.

Birthed beneath a commie rock. Origination of rock irrelevant.
/learning to speak TFK

216 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:53:49pm

re: #182 Sharmuta

I believe now that all the years we've watched the left act like fools was actually creating a sort of jealousy in some. They want to behave the same way because thinking seriously about civic issues is, you know, work. Why put up with that when you can be as bad as you want to be by claiming tu quoque?

I think it's simpler then that. For 8 years the left felt marginalized and isolated. The basic mantra from the loonies was "How did this idiot get elected", they hated him so much they grasped at any silly misstep and ran with it.
Now we'll have 4 to 8 years of the other sides turn. Actually, it may be worse since Obama may get more liberal programs through then GW did with conservative ones.

217 theheat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:53:57pm

Under the link to the article cited, they list more alerts to send the masses into hysterics:

Get "The Audacity of Deceit" and learn about the looming hostile attack on Judeo-Christian values and freedoms Americans hold dear

All it's missing are a trillion exclamation points, gargantuan Comic Sans in three or four primary colors, and the inevitable endless string of FW FW FW that will pollute the inboxes of anyone who knows anyone that subscribes to this crap, and suffers the misfortune of leaking their email address to the conspiracy theory loons.

I guess I know what will headline Fox news tonight.

Quick! Run! The sky is falling!

218 kansas  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:54:30pm

re: #214 OldLineTexan

The tree didn't kill Sonny Bono. Hitting the tree at high speed killed Sonny Bono.

/

My Dad would have said, "It wasn't the speed that killed him. It was that sudden stop."

219 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:55:03pm

re: #156 MJ

Charles:

Is The Political Cesspool reading us?

Check this out on their blog.

It’s Jews and their sycophants calling each other commies, Nazis, liberals, Jewhaters, Muslim sympathizers, racists and oh yeah, infiltrators. The Jew calling Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs an infiltrator is the same one who claims that the CIA created a phony 50 year old Hawaiian newspaper in order to pull off the Great Obama Birth Certificate Conspiracy.

I don't think I'll link to it.

Neo-nazi assholes love to do stuff like this. They think they're sowing chaos; Geller and Spencer's posts probably got them all hot and bothered, so they're trying to stir things up even more. When you're on to them, you see that they're just pathetic, angry children who will never grow up.

220 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:55:12pm

re: #195 DeathtotheSwiss

I usually don't shamelessly promote anything but...well, I have to this time. I just created a fun little blog called LGF WATCH WATCH

If you're interested in posting content and analyzing the idiots over at LGF Watch well, feel free to let me know.

Ugh, that site is stupid. Rashid Khalidi as a credible source on Palestine? It burns my brain.

221 Emerald  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:55:25pm

re: #182 Sharmuta

I believe now that all the years we've watched the left act like fools was actually creating a sort of jealousy in some. They want to behave the same way because thinking seriously about civic issues is, you know, work. Why put up with that when you can be as bad as you want to be by claiming tu quoque?

There's certainly been a lot of that behavior.

There is a certain appeal to believing these things. It's almost a belief system; a person can know the facts without ever having to actually face any. It frees them to vent, or feel better about themselves, or whatever. But it's dangerous. Once you start down the road of self-delusion, it's hard to get off of it.

222 hazzyday  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:55:33pm

re: #195 DeathtotheSwiss

I usually don't shamelessly promote anything but...well, I have to this time. I just created a fun little blog called LGF WATCH WATCH

If you're interested in posting content and analyzing the idiots over at LGF Watch well, feel free to let me know.

LGF Watch has to be run by someone missing a few marbles.

223 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:55:36pm

re: #211 Ojoe

GMTA I had just pulled up that site about five minutes ago because the sky is really pretty down below where I am.

224 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:55:37pm

re: #202 goddessoftheclassroom

What a great story! I'm giggling at the mental picture.

It resulted in lots of firehouse ribbing!

225 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:56:02pm

re: #208 Pvt Bin Jammin

Good evening, lizards, just stopping by for awhile in between some chores and paper work. Hope everyone is well.

Wishing, prayers for all the folks in your town. That's awful.

Thanks so much, PBJ! I work tomorrow, so will better know what all is happening.

226 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:56:21pm
227 Emerald  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:56:59pm

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

Well they can't be Princes of the Universe, because Queen beat 'em to it:


[Video]

Wow! A Queen song I'd never heard before. I thought I'd caught all their numbers at one time or another. Can't say it's my favorite, but it's still nice to hear something "new" from them.

228 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:57:03pm

re: #214 OldLineTexan

The tree didn't kill Sonny Bono. Hitting the tree at high speed killed Sonny Bono.

/

it's not the fall....

229 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:57:19pm

re: #225 Wishing

You're very welcome. Are any small businesses involved that you know of?

230 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:57:51pm

re: #220 Zimriel

Ugh, that site is stupid. Rashid Khalidi as a credible source on Palestine? It burns my brain.

Join me...join meee!

231 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:57:55pm

re: #210 Thanos

What's really needed is other conservative publishers than Regnery, and with net publishing that day is coming.

My concern is that self-published books are already coming out for Kindle... and those books are self-edited. Which is to say, they are as chaotic and ill-written as anything you'd expect of a vanity press.

Agreed we still need gatekeepers; but where would they fit in?

232 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:57:56pm

re: #227 Emerald

Wow! A Queen song I'd never heard before. I thought I'd caught all their numbers at one time or another. Can't say it's my favorite, but it's still nice to hear something "new" from them.

Glad you liked it. Happy to be of service.

233 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:03pm

re: #221 Emerald

There's certainly been a lot of that behavior.

There is a certain appeal to believing these things. It's almost a belief system; a person can know the facts without ever having to actually face any. It frees them to vent, or feel better about themselves, or whatever. But it's dangerous. Once you start down the road of self-delusion, it's hard to get off of it.

And it lacks consistency. I've come to stop seeing things as right and left, and now see the visions described by Thomas Sowell. This is the unconstrained vision at work on the right. They are not the conservatives they think they are. They are more akin to those they claim to despise.

234 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:30pm

re: #222 hazzyday

LGF Watch has to be run by someone missing a few marbles.

If by "few" you mean the entire collection.

235 Ojoe  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:36pm

re: #223 Pvt Bin Jammin

What a mountain range, the San Gabriels. I love the granite boulders that wash out of their canyons.

236 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:47pm

re: #218 kansas

My Dad would have said, "It wasn't the speed that killed him. It was that sudden stop."

That's the "hitting" part, and as a mechanical engineer I assure you your father was correct.

237 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:58:59pm

re: #209 hazzyday

Assuming the fact set given is true (which it isn't), it was the age of the mother at issue rather than her singleness. She had to reside in the US at least 5 years after turning 16 - which means if she was 21, no issue. But she was 18, so issue.

238 retief_99  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:59:03pm

Is there a legal document presented that proves Barack Obama is a US citizen? I don't think a certificate of live birth will be suitable. Try to get a passport without a legal birth certificate. So far as I can see, there is not legal proof of his citizenship. If that makes me a kook in many peoples eyes so be it. I am suspicious of politicians and government, if that makes me some sort of idiot or conspiracy theorist, so be it. I believe the law of the land must be upheld. If we don't uphold the law we are headed for disaster. I break out in a cold sweat at the thought that Obama is discovered not to be eligible. The sweats are caused by what will happen to this country if that becomes evident. It will make Watergate look like a joke. The one thing that makes me so upset is Obama's reluctance to present his birth certificate for authentication. If he does not do so because this is an invasion of his privacy, how can he have proved his eligibility to run for president. The requirement for proof is implied in the text of the constitution. The President must be a natural born US citizen. I personally hope this matter of eligibility is pursued as long as Barack Obama is in office or the question is resolved. Not because I do not like his political views or agenda, but because the law is the law, without the law we are in a state of anarchy

239 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:59:35pm

re: #8 jaunte

Sekrits Under Seal!

An elephant seal, no less!

240 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:59:52pm

re: #233 Sharmuta

And it lacks consistency. I've come to stop seeing things as right and left, and now see the visions described by Thomas Sowell. This is the unconstrained vision at work on the right. They are not the conservatives they think they are. They are more akin to those they claim to despise.

it's the circle coming together on the backside where folks don't notice

241 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:00:01pm

re: #238 retief_99


Err..Obama has a passport.

242 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:00:12pm

re: #229 Pvt Bin Jammin

You're very welcome. Are any small businesses involved that you know of?

No, the old municipal building is empty (where fire originated, I think) and the rest is residential, including a church. They have evacuated several homes.
With the ladder truck on the scene, I am hoping it will quickly be under control.

243 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:00:18pm

re: #231 Zimriel

My concern is that self-published books are already coming out for Kindle... and those books are self-edited. Which is to say, they are as chaotic and ill-written as anything you'd expect of a vanity press.

Agreed we still need gatekeepers; but where would they fit in?

cool I can publish my memoirs

sebben yeers b4 teh mast or mai lief wif teh sea kittehs

/it's a love story

244 Code Red 21  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:00:24pm

BO's probably from Mars and he was not bowing to the King but trying to get a better look at him with the third eye he has on the top of his head. Get a grip people it's smoke and mirrors while we're talking about this kind of nonsense our country is going down a path we might never come back from. Now that's something to worry about.

245 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:00:29pm

re: #238 retief_99

Something just "woke up"

246 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:00:43pm

re: #238 retief_99

Legal, certified Birth Certificate. Proof of citizenship everywhere.

247 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:01:19pm

re: #241 DeathtotheSwiss

Err..Obama has a passport.

and a big effin plane too

248 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:01:23pm

re: #236 OldLineTexan

That's the "hitting" part, and as a mechanical engineer I assure you your father was correct.

The Δt was to short.

249 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:01:36pm

re: #238 retief_99

Keith Laumer would be ashamed that you're using the name of his character.

250 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:01:47pm

re: #238 retief_99

Downding because you obviously have not been paying attention to the issue. Sufficient evidence has been supplied and the state of Hawaii has vouched for the rest.

And I don't buy that you are more concerned with the law. I suspect you just want Obama out of office.

251 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:01:48pm

re: #238 retief_99

someone else take this...

252 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:02:05pm

re: #246 Sharmuta

Legal, certified Birth Certificate. Proof of citizenship everywhere.

Silly Sharmuta, facts aren't enough in this situation. I missed your charming habit of being logical while I was gone.

253 Randall Gross  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:02:15pm

re: #238 retief_99

You are everything you said you were.

You are worried about a nirth cert while congress is screwing the nation royally. I see you have your priorities straight.

254 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:02:31pm

re: #235 Ojoe

What a mountain range, the San Gabriels. I love the granite boulders that wash out of their canyons.

I like those boulders too. I feel really blessed to be able to check out those mountains every day. No longer have a premium view from the house since they built next door but have a good view from my deck and front yard.

255 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:02:38pm

Every time I post about this subject, more Nirthers pop up.

256 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:02:47pm

re: #253 Thanos

You are everything you said you were.

You are worried about a nirth cert while congress is screwing the nation royally. I see you have your priorities straight.

He iz wachin birdie.

257 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:02:55pm

re: #246 Sharmuta

Legal, certified Birth Certificate. Proof of citizenship everywhere.

Photoshop!
No globular clusters!

258 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:03:09pm

re: #255 Charles

It's like a bug zapper.

259 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:03:20pm

re: #246 Sharmuta

Legal, certified Birth Certificate. Proof of citizenship everywhere.

Same birthday as the Queen Mother. The one who stared down the Nazis. And the same birth date as Mr Fisted. The stars are somehow NOT aligned.

260 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:03:32pm

re: #173 BatGuano

I see. The tree didn't kill Sonny Bono? You're a saint. My mom is the same way. :)

I just nod and play along. Then I suggest it must have been some Democrats out to get him and he veers off on some other nuttery.

261 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:03:57pm

Thank God somebody is finally looking into Obama's fraudulent citizenship.

/

262 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:03:57pm

chapter wun i iz borned

sall i can rememberz mai ise wuz clost! K thx bai!

chapter too iz lil kitteh 2 qt!

went to skool and lernd to rite gud buks.

....

263 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:04:09pm

re: #260 JammieWearingFool

I just nod and play along. Then I suggest it must have been some Democrats out to get him and he veers off on some other nuttery.

Tree wells are a product of Gorebul warming!

264 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:04:09pm

re: #230 DeathtotheSwiss

Join me...join meee!

I've popped your comment cherry :^P

265 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:04:14pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

Well at least the title is truth-in-advertising: The show is a political cesspool.

Anyone who would appear on the show, based on the title alone, has to be an idiot.

266 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:04:19pm

re: #162 Cognito

I think the larger, more frightening shift is what I'll call a 'factual illiteracy' throughout the country. So much of our citizenry -- of every political persuasion -- now displays a lack of critical thinking that worries me.

This may bring me in for a round of lumps, but I think technology has a great deal to do with that. The Internet levels all utterings; the spoutings of some loon occupy the same pixels as the reasoned and contrary opinions of, say Thomas Sowell and Christopher Hitchens. And the same pixels as, more alarmingly, actual factual reportage.

People have lost the ability to distinguish among those things. And I see it on the left and right in similar proportions. Quite possible the center as well, although the center is more static, so it's hard to tell.

You have the Gramscian Whores of Education (NEA) to thank for this. It came long before the Internet was available.

267 DistantThunder  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:04:26pm

I don't think he was ever born.

268 Ojoe  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:04:29pm

re: #254 Pvt Bin Jammin

I grew up in the San Gabriel valley, but now I am several hundred miles north of there & I like the Towercam because it gives me a good view of my old stomping grounds.


BBL

269 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:04:30pm

re: #47 Racer X

There could be video footage of Barry popping out of the womb and these people would still claim there is a conspiracy.

Ya got it. They just want to disqualify him from the presidency to express how much they don't yike him.

They want a do-over, and they will claim anything to get one.

270 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:04:59pm

re: #269 SanFranciscoZionist

Ya got it. They just want to disqualify him from the presidency to express how much they don't yike him.

They want a do-over, and they will claim anything to get one.

And yes, I have a kugel in the oven as we speak.

271 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:05:04pm

re: #254 Pvt Bin Jammin

I like those boulders too. I feel really blessed to be able to check out those mountains every day. No longer have a premium view from the house since they built next door but have a good view from my deck and front yard.

I look out my back forty and see the awsome Sandia Mts a few miles away...sometimes I feel sorry for everyone else that won't see the magnificent sunrises over them...un friggin believable

272 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:05:23pm
273 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:05:30pm

FBI raids three Minneapolis money transfer businesses

Federal agents searched three money-transfer businesses in Minneapolis on Wednesday, carrying away boxes of documents and copying computer hard drives in a quest for details of financial transactions between the U.S. and several African nations.

Agents searched Mustaqbal Express, also known as North American Money Transfer Inc.; Quran Express; and Aaran Financial.

/jackpot!

274 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:05:37pm

re: #255 Charles

Every time I post about this subject, more Nirthers pop up.

I concede...they do seem to be everywhere

275 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:05:47pm

re: #249 Charles

Keith Laumer would be ashamed that you're using the name of his character.

More like confused and annoyed. Oh hey Charles, did I mention that I'm taunting the website that considers itself kryptonite your superman?

276 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:05:58pm

re: #238 retief_99

sigh. Look, your passion is misplaced. Latch on to his unbelievable power grab. Go to the streets showing how inept he is - plenty of REAL fodder there. Highlight his European Magical Fantasy Tour was a bust. Heck, point out Michelle is quite possibly the worst dresser on the planet. Stop, stop, stop aligning yourself with the kooktocrats. You owe that to yourself.

277 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:06:01pm

re: #265 Dar ul Harb

Anyone who would appear on the show, based on the title alone, has to be an idiot.

That still leaves a long list of guests, sadly.

278 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:06:03pm

re: #63 albusteve

he's hiding the fact that he was actually born a female...Berri Obama

Brucha Obama.

279 Simply Me  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:06:08pm

I totally accept that Obama was born in Hawaii.
What's hard for me to accept is that there isn't some political strategy behind keeping this issue alive.
Is it possible that this is their way of keeping fresh in people's minds that his father was from Kenyan and he spend much of his childhood in Indonesia, so it fits in with the storyline that he gives away the store in international politics because he isn't really committed to the USA, or something?
Or perhaps the long term strategy is to set up some procedures that require candidates to submit certain records (e.g., so we can eventually see college records)?
Can this really just be driven by kooky conspiracy theory paranoia?

280 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:06:31pm

re: #273 Killian Bundy

FBI raids three Minneapolis money transfer businesses

/jackpot!

Case dismissed, racial profiling!
/

281 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:06:57pm

re: #246 Sharmuta

but it's not pink. And that's problematic.

///// (like I needed it!)

282 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:07:00pm

0bamaz nirth certifikit wuz a nside job!

/lolrus

283 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:07:08pm

re: #269 SanFranciscoZionist

Ya got it. They just want to disqualify him from the presidency to express how much they don't yike him.

They want a do-over, and they will claim anything to get one.

Yup. The louder they cry that they are only doing this for the nation's own good (It's for the laaaaw!) the more I am convinced they are only in it to remove Obama from office.

284 DistantThunder  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:07:12pm

re: #266 MandyManners


You have the Gramscian Whores of Education (NEA) to thank for this. It came long before the Internet was available.

I happened to scan pass NPR and listened for a moment - a reporter with a lisp was telling a story about a ghost named Walter who she referred to as retlaw - get it - in the most sing-song-I 'm talking-to-slow people voice. The damage is deep.

285 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:07:18pm
286 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:07:25pm

re: #264 Zimriel

I've popped your comment cherry :^P

HUZZ-OUCH-AH!

287 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:07:34pm
288 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:07:53pm

re: #271 albusteve

Few years back when youngeast daughter lived in Boulder Colorado, we visited her. What a nice state. If you look east, you can see Kansas, west, it's straight up. Fascinating.

289 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:08:00pm

re: #283 Bloodnok

Yup. The louder they cry that they are only doing this for the nation's own good (It's for the laaaaw!) the more I am convinced they are only in it to remove Obama from office.

DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!

BUT then we have President BIDEN.

290 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:08:08pm

re: #279 Simply Me

I totally accept that Obama was born in Hawaii.
What's hard for me to accept is that there isn't some political strategy behind keeping this issue alive.
Is it possible that this is their way of keeping fresh in people's minds that his father was from Kenyan and he spend much of his childhood in Indonesia, so it fits in with the storyline that he gives away the store in international politics because he isn't really committed to the USA, or something?
Or perhaps the long term strategy is to set up some procedures that require candidates to submit certain records (e.g., so we can eventually see college records)?
Can this really just be driven by kooky conspiracy theory paranoia?

If your political enemies where busy running around shooting themselves in the nuts would you do anything to stop them?

291 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:08:11pm

Speaking of the crazy wing.

Pamela Oshry?

292 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:08:33pm

re: #285 MandyManners

My favorite Moby!

Oh, wait. This is not a Moby.

Oops. I still like that song.

293 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:08:42pm

re: #238 retief_99

Damn dude..don't go away..I'll call Erik on the Satt phone..Fire up the BBQ..
I say we go with page 71 of the lizard cookbook..
300 servings of Grandma's Chicken Climax..
/Jorline..That is just so wrong

294 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:08:48pm

re: #210 Thanos

There has to be a better way on the internet to establish trust and authority.

Who sent you?

WHO SENT YOU?

/

295 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:09:05pm
296 The Shadow Do  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:09:09pm

A simple question, and not intended to be antagonistic, is Obama a Communist? I'm frankly not sure quite what to make of him. He does strike me as someone with a set of core beliefs and not someone chasing wealth in specific. But that is just my take.

Who is this guy?

297 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:09:09pm

re: #291 Gus 802

Speaking of the crazy wing.

Pamela Oshry?

I saw that the other day too, but it's difficult for me to give a rat's ass where she's concerned, I didn't look into it more.

298 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:09:33pm

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]
Drudge has a red light. Immigration to be a priority to the TOTUS.

299 dwdw49  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:09:53pm

hi charles,
do you think yelling at someone loud enough and long enough means you're right? OK, i'm a nutroot, a fool, a ninny, an ass....anything else you can think of? oh i forgot nirther, that's a funny one! as a conspiritorialist i just want to produce one and only one piece of evidence; the actual birth certificate.

what a novel idea, but i'm sure they wouldn't accept that in court, i mean an actual document is soooo passe. it is so much better to have evidence that no one has seen, but everyone says is true.

come to think of it, i don't need real evidence, i just need to take your word for it.

300 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:10:05pm

re: #279 Simply Me

I totally accept that Obama was born in Hawaii.
What's hard for me to accept is that there isn't some political strategy behind keeping this issue alive.
Is it possible that this is their way of keeping fresh in people's minds that his father was from Kenyan and he spend much of his childhood in Indonesia, so it fits in with the storyline that he gives away the store in international politics because he isn't really committed to the USA, or something?
Or perhaps the long term strategy is to set up some procedures that require candidates to submit certain records (e.g., so we can eventually see college records)?
Can this really just be driven by kooky conspiracy theory paranoia?

Or, maybe this is a set-up to drive the nuts fucking crazier than they are already.

301 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:10:14pm

re: #271 albusteve

I look out my back forty and see the awsome Sandia Mts a few miles away...sometimes I feel sorry for everyone else that won't see the magnificent sunrises over them...un friggin believable

Wow. I'm sure you love it. "purple mountains majesty..."

302 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:10:28pm

re: #294 Occasional Reader

Who sent you?

WHO SENT YOU?

/

Calling INS Division 6!

303 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:10:32pm

re: #288 irongrampa

Few years back when youngeast daughter lived in Boulder Colorado, we visited her. What a nice state. If you look east, you can see Kansas, west, it's straight up. Fascinating.

been there, lived there....too crowded tho...weekends in the mountains is a madhouse...there are more people along the front range up there than the entire state of New Mexico which is much bigger...NM rules

304 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:10:36pm

re: #299 dwdw49

do you like fishsticks?

305 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:10:49pm

re: #287 Sharmuta

Iz nu lolcats fer teh bird wacherz

u needa put bubblz abuv hed

(LOL!)

306 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:10:49pm

re: #291 Gus 802

Speaking of the crazy wing.

Pamela Oshry?

Which of the google links do you suggest I click?

307 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:10:57pm

re: #297 Sharmuta

I saw that the other day too, but it's difficult for me to give a rat's ass where she's concerned, I didn't look into it more.

Was lurking for some of the lurking in the blogs and found a reference to that name. Somehow this doesn't surprise me. Some odd criminal associations behind certain people.

308 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:11:22pm

re: #93 jaunte

Birdie is all ova.

Wich comez first, teh ova or birdie?

309 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:11:27pm

re: #306 Dianna

Which of the google links do you suggest I click?

I don't know. I just started probing around.

310 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:11:55pm

Drudge sez....

IMMIGRATION BILL THIS YEAR: Obama to begin looking for illegal immigrants to become legal, NY TIMES planning to lead in Page Ones on Thursday, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE... Developing...


Awaiting the imminent outrage from McCain voters.

311 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:11:57pm

And now the belligerent Nirthers are showing up, which is always a treat.

312 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:05pm

re: #302 jcm

Calling INS Division 6!

[Video]

There IS no more "INS".

HOW CONVENIENT!

313 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:13pm

re: #308 Dar ul Harb

Kan haz Latino pryze!

314 Mithrax  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:17pm

re: #309 Gus 802

I don't know. I just started probing around.

So THAT'S what that was!

Sheesh, next time, warm up your probes will ya?

315 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:30pm

re: #304 OldLineTexan

do you like fishsticks?

Look out, OLT, a black widow!

316 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:40pm
317 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:43pm

re: #299 dwdw49

hi charles,
do you think yelling at someone loud enough and long enough means you're right?

Lulz.

318 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:47pm

re: #299 dwdw49

Shift key not working?

319 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:52pm

re: #311 Charles

Joy.

How do you tolerate this, again? Without resorting to drink, I mean?

320 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:12:55pm

re: #301 Pvt Bin Jammin

Wow. I'm sure you love it. "purple mountains majesty..."

yep...it's hard not to be snobby about it...really, it's very dramatic at sunrise and again at sunset

321 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:03pm

re: #314 Mithrax

So THAT'S what that was!

Sheesh, next time, warm up your probes will ya?

I blame the aliens!

//

322 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:32pm

re: #310 Killgore Trout

Drudge sez....


Awaiting the imminent outrage from McCain voters.

Go ahead and hold your breath, I was bitching about McCain and the border and STILL VOTED FOR HIM.

I hope you're happy giving your voting rights to others for gloating "privileges".

323 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:38pm

re: #173 BatGuano

I see. The tree didn't kill Sonny Bono? You're a saint. My mom is the same way. :)

Last year I had students who believed that George Bush was conspiring to launch the North American Union, or whatever the hell it's supposed to be, and never leave office, students who believed that 9/11 was a 'fake', and a student who believed passionately that the CIA killed Princess Diana, and thought me very naive for suggesting that might not be strictly true.

The critical thinking is the fun part.

"OK. Let's look at this logically. I suppose the CIA could have killed Princess Di if they wanted to. Why did they want to?"

"Because she was gonna tell!"

"Tell what?"

"Huh?"

324 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:43pm

Was it over when we found out George Washington wasn't born in the US? No!

325 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:47pm

re: #318 Killgore Trout

Shift key not working?

Too worked up. Or he/she never met Mavis.

326 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:50pm

re: #315 Occasional Reader

Look out, OLT, a black widow!

Dude, you saved my life!

327 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:13:57pm

re: #294 Occasional Reader

Who sent you?

WHO SENT YOU?

/

Who the fuck are you?


328 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:08pm

You know, how do we even know Hawaii is real? I've never seen it.

329 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:14pm

Did an invite to the clueless get sent out when I wasn't looking?

330 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:16pm

Waaaaa! I waaaannnnt to get rid of the Bad Man with the Niiiiirrrthhh Certiffffikit stooorrry!

*Falls on floor, starts kicking in circle*

It's noooot faaaaiiir! He's a Muuuuslim Keeenyan Indonesian...

*Still kicking, opens one eye to see if you are looking*

Maaake him go awaaaay, Supreeeeme Court...

*Realizes is about to smash head on coffee table. Stops, skooches down a foot or so, continues to kick in circle while screaming*

////

331 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:26pm

re: #303 albusteve

Long as there are something you can call mountains--even the eroded appalachians are ok with me. A year in Fla (Miami) cured me of flatland.

332 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:28pm

re: #325 Dianna

Too worked up. Or he/she never met Mavis.

sometimes i like to go all archy and mehitabel

333 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:32pm

re: #311 Charles

And now the belligerent Nirthers are showing up, which is always a treat.

I'll go fire up the grill. Given how many trolls I have to roast, can I get a increase in my Zionist payoff to cover the cost of cooking them?

///

334 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:37pm

re: #310 Killgore Trout

Drudge sez....


Awaiting the imminent outrage from McCain voters.


Yeah, this is nothing we weren't expecting from either candidate. I'm sure some will still find time to feel shocked.....and stunned.

335 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:37pm

re: #299 dwdw49

Don't be an ass. Oopps- too late!

You don't need to take anyone's word for it. You can examine the Birth Certificate for yourself. But, you're also free to disregard the actual evidence and cling to your kookspiracy theory.

336 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:39pm

re: #311 Charles

And now the belligerent Nirthers are showing up, which is always a treat.

If this wasn't my monitor I'm looking at, I love it if this was one of them old duck-shoots on the carnival midway.

337 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:14:59pm

re: #328 The Sanity Inspector

You know, how do we even know Hawaii is real? I've never seen it.

there is a picture somewhere...official too

338 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:15:09pm

re: #299 dwdw49

hi charles,
i just want to produce one and only one piece of evidence; the actual birth certificate.
blockquote>

It's a joke to them now...yeah they could show it off, but it's a lot more fun to taunt the fringe with it.

339 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:15:13pm

re: #329 ArmyWife

Did an invite to the clueless get sent out when I wasn't looking?

Evidently.

340 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:15:23pm

re: #190 Kreuzueber Halbmond

The kooks have to know 0bama was born in Hawaii. My guess is that the long version of the birth document would show Daddy's religious affiliation as being Muslim. It gives the nuts more information to grow conspiracies around.

But his father was Muslim, at least by birth, correct? How can that possibly be news?

341 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:15:49pm

re: #330 EmmmieG

Toddlers?

342 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:16:02pm

re: #318 Killgore Trout

Shift key not working?

shiftless

/yeah, take out the "f" and it's not that too

343 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:16:06pm

re: #306 Dianna

Which of the google links do you suggest I click?

OK, try this one:

PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR BILL WARNER

Scroll down for the money shot.

344 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:16:12pm

re: #333 Dark_Falcon

Ask for piecework--good money there.

345 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:16:19pm

re: #252 DeathtotheSwiss

Thanks for the kind words. :)

346 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:16:30pm

re: #331 irongrampa

Long as there are something you can call mountains--even the eroded appalachians are ok with me. A year in Fla (Miami) cured me of flatland.

Now now, the Appalachians are NOT eroded!

347 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:16:42pm

re: #331 irongrampa

Long as there are something you can call mountains--even the eroded appalachians are ok with me. A year in Fla (Miami) cured me of flatland.

I can't live too far from mountains...I like to be able to at least see them on the horizon....the Sandias are famous and they loom right up next to the city

348 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:16:58pm

re: #328 The Sanity Inspector

You know, how do we even know Hawaii is real? I've never seen it.

I've stood on the Pacific Coast and looked west.....

THERE IS NOTHING OUT THERE!

349 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:04pm

re: #322 OldLineTexan

I believe you and I had some great conversations about McCain's immigration policy being less than endearing!

350 Eagle  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:31pm

I love that picture. Makes me laugh every time.

351 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:40pm

re: #340 SanFranciscoZionist

But his father was Muslim, at least by birth, correct? How can that possibly be news?

My parents' religion was not on my California birth certificate? Why would it be on the Hawaii one?

352 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:48pm

re: #319 Dianna

Joy.

How do you tolerate this, again? Without resorting to drink, I mean?

Well, I grew up in Hawaii, so I know how to relax about things....

Uh, wait, did I just write that? No. I was never in Hawaii in 1961 when Barack Obama's birth announcements were published. I was, uh, in Kansas. That's right, I grew up in Kansas.

353 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:17:50pm

re: #346 Wishing

Now now, the Appalachians are NOT eroded!

just lumps...pretty little things tho

354 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:21pm

re: #328 The Sanity Inspector

You know, now that you mention it...I've SEEN Barry, but I've never touched him. Perhaps he isn't real, either.

355 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:31pm

re: #352 Charles

I was, uh, in Kansas. That's right, I grew up in Kansas.

Charles, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.

356 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:43pm

re: #352 Charles

loose lips...

357 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:44pm

re: #341 Dianna

Toddlers?

My youngest is now a pre-schooler, but I do think there is a slight element of toddler-ism in refusing to accept the legal evidence. Of my five, two have the Certificate of Live Birth, and three have the "long form." All five are equally valid.

358 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:49pm

re: #349 ArmyWife

I believe you and I had some great conversations about McCain's immigration policy being less than endearing!

memory hole if there's gloating to be done

359 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:57pm

re: #209 hazzyday

where the nirthers go wrong. from WND


Some discrimination against single moms going on there in those rules. Single mom not having the same rights as a married person. Anyone giving birth before age 21 is a second class citizen if they spent one year overseas and their SO left them.

I don't buy it. I think the point is that you cannot have left the country at fourteen, lived abroad twenty years, and then insist your child is a U.S. citizen. I haven't been able to find a ruling--haven't been looking that hard--but I will be extremely surprised if a court has ever found that a U.S. citizen living giving birth overseas at an age below 21 did not transfer their citizenship rights to their child.

360 theheat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:18:58pm

re: #340 SanFranciscoZionist

Not only that, but Obama has said so, and more than once. This is the worst kept secret in the world.

361 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:19:16pm

re: #342 pre-Boomer Marine brat

shiftless

/yeah, take out the "f" and it's not that too

"Shiftless" is actually a vocab word. I always carefully enunciate that one!

362 Cognito  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:19:29pm

re: #352 Charles

Mmm hmm.

All right, "Charles." Or whomever you may be.

363 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:19:31pm

Its all about the policy folks. Screw the nirth certificate, the bow, the wardrobe of his psycho hose-beast wife, and the million dollar swing set. Keep his policies in your cross-hairs and blow the fuckers up when he lets them fly. They will be the slow moving Marxist garbage that are on your port side, starboard, aft, and bow.

364 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:19:34pm

re: #352 Charles

Well, I grew up in Hawaii, so I know how to relax about things....

Uh, wait, did I just write that? No. I was never in Hawaii in 1961 when Barack Obama's birth announcements were published. I was, uh, in Kansas. That's right, I grew up in Kansas.

Oh, Charles.

Alex Jones/David Icke could have multiple mental orgasms in his fetid brain based on this.

365 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:19:50pm

re: #347 albusteve

I can't live too far from mountains...I like to be able to at least see them on the horizon....the Sandias are famous and they loom right up next to the city

I really enjoyed visiting Sandia peak, and looking at all the seabed fossils in the limestone on top.
Image: dsc_00941.jpg

366 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:20:07pm

re: #343 Gus 802

Oh. Oh, my.

367 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:20:10pm

re: #348 jcm

I've stood on the Pacific Coast and looked west.....

THERE IS NOTHING OUT THERE!

*GASP*
Y' mean whereverthhell it was that my parents SAID we were living when I was in high school wasn't really Hawaii AT ALL!

MY OWN PARENTS LIED TO ME!
WAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!

368 Mithrax  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:20:11pm

re: #364 MandyManners

Oh, Charles.

Alex Jones/David Icke could have multiple mental orgasms in his fetid brain based on this.

Sigh. Not a mental image I wanted.

369 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:20:29pm

Newt sez; Goda hates fags.....
Obama administration 'anti-religious,' Gingrich says

In an interview with FOX News, Gingrich said he strongly disagreed with Obama's choice of Harry Knox — an outspoken activist for gay rights — to the White House advisory council on faith-based initiatives.

"I think their goal is to have a very secular America in which government dominates everything," he said. "Why wouldn't you put an anti-religious, left-wing zealot on a faith-based group? It's a perfect pattern for this administration."

Perhaps an imam would satisfy Newt's requirements.

370 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:20:32pm

re: #352 Charles

YOU BASTARD!

//

371 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:20:43pm

re: #365 jaunte

I really enjoyed visiting Sandia peak, and looking at all the seabed fossils in the limestone on top.
[Link: nextpitch.org...]

ah!...the tram!...HOOT!

372 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:20:54pm

re: #363 NYCHardhat

Its all about the policy folks. Screw the nirth certificate, the bow, the wardrobe of his psycho hose-beast wife, and the million dollar swing set. Keep his policies in your cross-hairs and blow the fuckers up when he lets them fly. They will be the slow moving Marxist garbage that are on your port side, starboard, aft, and bow.

Not naow. Iz wachin birdie.

373 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:00pm

re: #346 Wishing

No, not if you're hiking them. Compared to the Rockies--they're knolls.

Walked a lot of the Appalachian Trail over the years, but never the whole thing.

374 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:18pm

Once a large enough percentage of the population comes to believe (or happens to notice, whichever you prefer) that laws are applied differently to different classes of people respect for the law will disappear. Once respect for the law is erased, why would you follow the law?

Once people suspect (or realize) that reported news differs depending on the target audience, trust in the ability of the news-gathering classes to be honest, fair brokers is lost. If you can only trust that which you have personally seen then you are isolated and weakened.

This world runs on trust in your fellow citizen. Think about it. How could you even walk down the sidewalk if you didn't trust that the people you pass aren't going to wheel about and stab you in the back? How could you drive if you don't trust that the driver of that 18-wheeler isn't going to run you over, just because he can? You trust that your doctor actually did earn that degree so proudly displayed. You don't run to check the alumni lists (indeed, how could you trust a printed list? Anyone could have ginned it up.) You trust your mechanic to safely repair your ride; you don't whip out the tool kit and pull off the hubcap and check to make sure he put that little cotter pin in that keeps the hub from coming off the spindle.

You have to be able to trust your fellow man. There simply aren't enough isolated mountain tops for all of us. The hermit in the cave thing just isn't going to work for everyone. If you can't have some basic level of trust in your fellow citizens, they you can't have anything close to a civilization.

And me, I kind of enjoy comfy chairs, lights at the flick of a switch, and all that stuff like that there.

375 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:26pm

re: #366 Dianna

Oh. Oh, my.

Yeah. My oh my!

376 Summer Seale  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:26pm

I'm just so happy that I stopped reading WND years ago after reading it for a very short time. That site went off the cliff edge a very long time ago and is still falling ahead of many other sites who jumped afterwards.

I just wonder if they really believe this crap, or if they're just selling it to people who do, or wished that it was true.

377 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:48pm

re: #361 goddessoftheclassroom

"Shiftless" is actually a vocab word. I always carefully enunciate that one!

oh timid you!

:D

378 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21:52pm

re: #367 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*GASP*
Y' mean whereverthhell it was that my parents SAID we were living when I was in high school wasn't really Hawaii AT ALL!

MY OWN PARENTS LIED TO ME!
WAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!

The conspiracy gets deeper!

379 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:22:13pm

re: #355 Occasional Reader

Charles, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.

Can I be Toto, in this scenario? He has the most fun, what with the curtain and all.

380 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:22:26pm

re: #357 EmmmieG

Are you sure? I mean SUPER sure?

381 Cognito  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:22:59pm

Come to think of it, I've been taking people's word on it, when it comes to my own place of birth.

I can't remember a moment of it.

382 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:23:00pm

re: #379 Dianna

Can I be Toto, in this scenario? He has the most fun, what with the curtain and all.

No Glenda the Good Witch for you, eh? You'd get cool clothes and a wand!

383 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:23:06pm

re: #367 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*GASP*
Y' mean whereverthhell it was that my parents SAID we were living when I was in high school wasn't really Hawaii AT ALL!

MY OWN PARENTS LIED TO ME!
WAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!

You will return to the island, Number 6.

384 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:23:12pm

re: #372 Sharmuta

Not naow. Iz wachin birdie.

WTF? Sometimes you puzzle me. But thats ok, it could be the scotch that is affecting my brain.

385 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:23:46pm

re: #384 NYCHardhat

It's called humor. Sometimes I display it.

386 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:23:50pm

re: #365 jaunte

I really enjoyed visiting Sandia peak, and looking at all the seabed fossils in the limestone on top.
[Link: nextpitch.org...]

I look at that I my inner adrenaline junkie screams ZIP LINE!

387 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:00pm

re: #311 Charles

And now the belligerent Nirthers are showing up, which is always a treat.

You mean emails?

I think Obama is crazy like a fox. By not releasing a long form birth certificate (assuming one exists), he's keeping the nirthers in a lather, so he can point at them and laugh.

388 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:05pm

re: #379 Dianna

Can I be Toto, in this scenario? He has the most fun, what with the curtain and all.

Sheesh... sorry, I already have you scripted as a winged monkey. Is that okay?

389 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:14pm

re: #363 NYCHardhat

Its all about the policy folks. Screw the nirth certificate, the bow, the wardrobe of his psycho hose-beast wife, and the million dollar swing set. Keep his policies in your cross-hairs and blow the fuckers up when he lets them fly. They will be the slow moving Marxist garbage that are on your port side, starboard, aft, and bow.

Speaking of starboard, port, aft, and bow, Megan Kelly (filling in for Greta) says the U.S.S. Bainbridge just showed up at the scene, and sunrise is two hours away.

This will possibly indicate how much force Obama and Hillary are willing to show. And how crazy (suicidal) the pirates are.

390 Wilderstad  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:14pm

Obama's birth certificate authentication mayhave been an issue when he put forth his papers to enter into the race for POTUS.
It's now totally irrelevant. These people are wasting valuable and their own limited time, money and energy that could be better spent looking at kicking Obama's sorry posterior out in 2012.
Sometimes you've got to know when to conserve your resources and relearn how to spend them wisely.

391 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:31pm

re: #336 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If this wasn't my monitor I'm looking at, I love it if this was one of them old duck-shoots on the carnival midway.

But they are all fixed!
(there is a joke in there somewhere, but someone better than me will find it)

392 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:34pm

re: #381 Cognito

Come to think of it, I've been taking people's word on it, when it comes to my own place of birth.

I can't remember a moment of it.

Now that was funny! Thanks cog

393 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:34pm

re: #380 ArmyWife

Are you sure? I mean SUPER sure?

Well, I could get a sworn affadavit from my husband. He was there for the births, and he's pretty sure that my memory is defective, especially when I start talking about wanting another baby.*

*Note: I'm not sure I want another child. Just another baby. This makes sense only on a hormonal, hard-wired to love infants level.

394 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:48pm

I bet Charles has never stepped foot in Kansas...nobody who is anybody would ever go there...
/

395 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:54pm

re: #333 Dark_Falcon

I'll go fire up the grill. Given how many trolls I have to roast, can I get a increase in my Zionist payoff to cover the cost of cooking them?

///

I'll check with Irv at the seder. Are you getting your charcoal wholesale?

396 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:55pm

re: #383 OldLineTexan

You will return to the island, Number 6.

Now that show is proof that people were doing LOTS of drugs in the Sixties.

397 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:24:58pm

re: #387 Ward Cleaver

You mean emails?

I think Obama is crazy like a fox. By not releasing a long form birth certificate (assuming one exists), he's keeping the nirthers in a lather, so he can point at them and laugh.

That's what I'm thinking.

398 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:01pm

re: #375 Gus 802

Yeah. My oh my!

No further comment.

399 Cognito  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:01pm

re: #383 OldLineTexan

You will return to the island, Number 6.

"Who are you?"

"I am Number Two."

400 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:06pm

re: #379 Dianna

Can I be Toto, in this scenario? He has the most fun, what with the curtain and all.

I always wondered why the Wizard couldn't have found something to give to the dog. Dogs aren't hard to please. But then again Toto was a terrier. He probably went into another room to be alone for awhile when the gifts were being dispensed.

401 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:09pm

re: #273 Killian Bundy

FBI raids three Minneapolis money transfer businesses

/jackpot!

This is interesting.

The warrant was filed under seal in the federal Eastern District of Missouri on April 3.

/this investigation must be huge

402 iLikeCandy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:13pm

Good evening and OT

Has anyone else noticed the left melting down over the Odministration's initiation of some claim to "Sovereign Immunity" or something? Holder is saying the administration will be immune to prosecution in warrantless wiretapping cases unless info so gathered is deliberately leaked.

403 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:21pm
404 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:38pm

re: #399 Cognito

"Who are you?"

"I am Number Two."

I AM NOT A NUMBER!

405 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:45pm

re: #389 jwb7605

Speaking of starboard, port, aft, and bow, Megan Kelly (filling in for Greta) says the U.S.S. Bainbridge just showed up at the scene, and sunrise is two hours away.

This will possibly indicate how much force Obama and Hillary are willing to show. And how crazy (suicidal) the pirates are.

The "negotiations" for the release of the Captain will have a different tone when the Pie-Rats are staring down the barrels of the cannons.

406 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:48pm

re: #385 Sharmuta

It's called humor. Sometimes I display it.

Easy killer. I'm just playing. My gift to you.

407 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:25:50pm

re: #386 jcm

I watched a hang-glider looking out at the the desert from Sandia peak for about 45 minutes before he launched; a few minutes later I hear a ripping noise above the trail, and he went by about 50 feet above the peak.

408 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:26:03pm

re: #379 Dianna

I refused to watch that movie again, after finding out the Wicked Witch was NEVER gonna win.
No fair, I say.

409 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:26:11pm

re: #385 Sharmuta

It's called humor. Sometimes I display it.

((((((Sharmuta))))))

'Sup, pup?

410 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:26:12pm

re: #399 Cognito

I avoid the first two numbers.

411 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:26:14pm

re: #382 Desert Dog

No Glenda the Good Witch for you, eh? You'd get cool clothes and a wand!

Glynda the Good is not a favorite character.

412 Cognito  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:26:24pm

re: #392 HoosierHoops

Now that was funny! Thanks cog

I do's what I can.

413 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:26:31pm

re: #343 Gus 802

OK, try this one:

PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR BILL WARNER

Scroll down for the money shot.

Oh. My. Goodness.

414 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:26:43pm

re: #388 Occasional Reader

Sheesh... sorry, I already have you scripted as a winged monkey. Is that okay?

Only if I'm the leader.

415 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:26:57pm

re: #398 Dianna

No further comment.

Yeah, probably best. All I'll say is goodfellas and leave it at that.

416 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:01pm

re: #410 OldLineTexan

I avoid the first two numbers.

You've been holding it in for HOW long?!

417 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:10pm

re: #340 SanFranciscoZionist

But his father was Muslim, at least by birth, correct? How can that possibly be news?

It doesn't matter if it's news or not. Having it on an official document and then airing it on Fox News would give the conservonuts an orgasm - a fair and balanced one.

418 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:10pm

re: #298 Crimsonfisted

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]
Drudge has a red light. Immigration to be a priority to the TOTUS.

Wonderful. Maybe he can grant them citizenship before the 2010 election.

419 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:16pm

re: #408 irongrampa

I refused to watch that movie again, after finding out the Wicked Witch was NEVER gonna win.
No fair, I say.

You need to see the play "Wicked."

420 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:21pm

re: #366 Dianna

wow.

421 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:28pm

re: #404 Crimsonfisted

I AM NOT A NUMBER!

Dammit, you're a man!


422 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:31pm

I miss the chat room, why did crazies have to ruin it?

423 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:41pm

re: #409 MandyManners

Thinking of starting some dinner. Whazzup with you?

424 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:54pm

re: #353 albusteve

just lumps...pretty little things tho

Agree! I absolutely love it here!

425 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:27:59pm

re: #416 Occasional Reader

LOL, it's a CURSE, see?

426 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:28:24pm

re: #411 Dianna

Glynda the Good is not a favorite character.

But her dress was FABULOUS! I am thinking for the granddaughter's quince anos party, what a great tiara!
(She would NEVER go for it, but a grandma can dream!)

427 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:28:27pm

re: #388 Occasional Reader

I'll trade.

428 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:28:33pm

re: #389 jwb7605

Speaking of starboard, port, aft, and bow, Megan Kelly (filling in for Greta) says the U.S.S. Bainbridge just showed up at the scene, and sunrise is two hours away.

This will possibly indicate how much force Obama and Hillary are willing to show. And how crazy (suicidal) the pirates are.

Bainbridge is an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer.
Very limited resources against small surface targets.

429 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:28:40pm

re: #348 jcm

I've stood on the Pacific Coast and looked west.....

THERE IS NOTHING OUT THERE!

My husband suggests you look southwest. If you look southwest, and kinda curve your vision around the earth, you can see them, he says.

"Duh," he adds.

430 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:28:46pm

I have discovered a remarkable proof of Obama's actual citizenship which is unfortunately too long to be written in this message.

/fermat's last nirth certificate

431 retief_99  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:28:59pm

re: #276 ArmyWife

I am not aligning myself with anyone. I am simply saying the law must be upheld or we are in a state of anarchy. How many times have we heard people in Government saying we should not enforce some law. If the law is bad, change it. I think for myself, I listen, and I still have not seen or heard of a legal document proving he is a citizen. If Obama has a passport he must have produced his birth certificate, if so, why does he hesitate to produce it now. One does not have to be aligned with any faction in order to have thoughts that seem to be contradictory with the mainstream. I am also a 20 year and 1 day retired US Marine.

432 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:29:03pm
Speaking of starboard, port, aft, and bow, Megan Kelly (filling in for Greta) says the U.S.S. Bainbridge just showed up at the scene, and sunrise is two hours away.

This will possibly indicate how much force Obama and Hillary are willing to show. And how crazy (suicidal) the pirates are.


No one has used force in the past, no real idea why they just pay unless it's a insurance issue. Maybe some law of the high seas I don't know about ?

433 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:29:05pm

re: #378 jcm

The conspiracy gets deeper!

But how 'bout THIS!

I (supposedly) took a summer school class at Punahoe, 1958 or '59.
What if all of that was a dream induced in my brain by my parents?
YIKES!
Punahoe DOESN'T EXIST!
OBAMA'S (alleged) HIGH SCHOOL NEVER EXISTED!

/sum daze, i will bees famus awn th cansiperty circuit!

434 dwdw49  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:29:14pm

re: #335 Sharmuta

i've already admitted to being an ass, and i'll add fool and idiot if that pleases you, oh, and btw the actual bc has not been released. sorry to confuse you with the facts. what are you going to call me now?

can you say "ad hominem"?

435 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:29:37pm

re: #413 reine.de.tout

Yeah.

436 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:29:41pm

re: #428 jcm

Bainbridge is an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer.
Very limited resources against small surface targets.

I'd say there is enough firepower on that vessel to introduce anyone on an inflatable raft to Davey Jones, yes?

437 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:29:45pm

re: #424 Wishing

Agree! I absolutely love it here!

alot of history up and down those mountains...I have burned plenty of miles through that whole region...and fine people to top it off!...

438 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:30:13pm

re: #426 Crimsonfisted

Tiaras! Pfft!

439 The Shadow Do  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:30:18pm

re: #352 Charles

Kansas, says a lot about why your feet are so firmly grounded. Kansas is not anything if it is not America - often the best of. No, I do not hail from there, but I have seen and lived in enough of this country to know that there is reality and then there is this other place altogether...

440 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:30:25pm

Paulian Tea Party organizer, Eric Odom, doesn't mind if Nazis attend the Tea Parties but Michael Steele is not welcome.....
Chicago ‘Tea Party’ Rejects Michael Steele

....Michael Steele, has been dissed by the crew behind the Chicago Tea Party. Eric Odom, the event’s organizer, has posted the email he wrote to the Republican National Chairman’s staff after Steele asked to be a speaker.


I very much appreciate the fact that Chairman Steele is now finally starting to reach out to the true grassroots side of the free-market movement in America. Unfortunately, it appears that he has only just decided to reach out after realizing how big the movement has gotten and how much media is now involved.

That said, we’re still excited to know that Chairman Steele will be in Chicago and we hope, after knowing that he’ll be in the city, that he’ll stop by and mingle with the Americans who will be rallying on April 15th. This will also present a fantastic time for Chairman Steele to LISTEN to what we have to say and perhaps gather some thoughts on what the RNC needs to be doing moving forward.

With regards to stage time, we respectfully must inform Chairman Steele that RNC officials are welcome to participate in the rally itself, but we prefer to limit stage time to those who are not elected officials, both in Government as well as political parties. This is an opportunity for Americans to speak, and elected officials to listen, not the other way around.


What an asshole.

441 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:30:37pm

re: #434 dwdw49

How about delusional? This is a certified copy of 0bama's birth record- whatever name you want to call it- it is legal proof of citizenship.

442 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:30:43pm

re: #423 Sharmuta

Thinking of starting some dinner. Whazzup with you?

Da Kid is asleep.

I finally have the time to change my socks!

443 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:31:10pm

re: #431 retief_99

I am not aligning myself with anyone. I am simply saying the law must be upheld or we are in a state of anarchy. How many times have we heard people in Government saying we should not enforce some law. If the law is bad, change it. I think for myself, I listen, and I still have not seen or heard of a legal document proving he is a citizen. If Obama has a passport he must have produced his birth certificate, if so, why does he hesitate to produce it now. One does not have to be aligned with any faction in order to have thoughts that seem to be contradictory with the mainstream. I am also a 20 year and 1 day retired US Marine.

Thank you for your service!

444 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:31:10pm

re: #369 Killgore Trout

Newt sez; Goda hates fags.....
Obama administration 'anti-religious,' Gingrich says

Perhaps an imam would satisfy Newt's requirements.

The point Newt was trying to make is that Obama appointed someone who would be offensive to the people he was supposed to reach out to. Gingrich isn't going after Knox's sexuality, but rather the fact that Know promotes causes that most devout people find objectionable.

445 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:31:22pm

re: #399 Cognito

"Who are you?"

"I am Number Two."

Six for Two! Six for Two!

446 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:31:29pm

re: #436 Desert Dog

I'd say there is enough firepower on that vessel to introduce anyone on an inflatable raft to Davey Jones, yes?

unleash the beast...get some

447 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:31:54pm

re: #437 albusteve

alot of history up and down those mountains...I have burned plenty of miles through that whole region...and fine people to top it off!...

Being one of those *fine people, I am forced to agree!

448 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:32:11pm

re: #352 Charles

Kansas, eh?

So, Mr. Johnson...or would you prefer Dunham? The truth will out.

449 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:32:27pm

re: #431 retief_99

I am not aligning myself with anyone. I am simply saying the law must be upheld or we are in a state of anarchy. How many times have we heard people in Government saying we should not enforce some law. If the law is bad, change it. I think for myself, I listen, and I still have not seen or heard of a legal document proving he is a citizen. If Obama has a passport he must have produced his birth certificate, if so, why does he hesitate to produce it now. One does not have to be aligned with any faction in order to have thoughts that seem to be contradictory with the mainstream. I am also a 20 year and 1 day retired US Marine.

If he has a passport, and I'm guessing that he does since he's travelling all over the place, then whatever documentation he produced when he applied for the passport was deemed satisfactory proof of his citizenship and there is NO NEED for him to continue to produce that documentation!

450 NYCHardhat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:32:28pm
451 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:32:39pm

re: #429 SanFranciscoZionist

My husband suggests you look southwest. If you look southwest, and kinda curve your vision around the earth, you can see them, he says.

"Duh," he adds.

ROFL!

452 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:32:50pm

re: #432 avanti

No one has used force in the past, no real idea why they just pay unless it's a insurance issue. Maybe some law of the high seas I don't know about ?

Um, pirates? Any nation's lawful prey?

Hello?

453 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:32:52pm

re: #298 Crimsonfisted

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]
Drudge has a red light. Immigration to be a priority to the TOTUS.

There's no such thing as immigration, for we are all brothers.

And sisters.

I mean, we are family!

/and we were all "born in Hawaii", if ya know what I mean

454 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:33:22pm

Oh geez...now we have an 8year old missing in this fire mess!
Please God, let them find her!
missing for 2.5 hours! Why didn't they report this sooner!

455 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:33:30pm

re: #343 Gus 802

Wow, just saw your post. Very interesting.

456 Cognito  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:33:44pm

re: #445 SanFranciscoZionist

Six for Two! Six for Two!

It's almost too good to be true, but they've posted that entire series online.

457 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:33:50pm

re: #444 Dark_Falcon

The guy's a Methodist. What's wrong with that?

458 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:33:50pm

re: #438 Dianna

Tiaras! Pfft!

She HAS to have a tiara for the quince anos! For my Sweet 16 I had a fondue party (how DATED! HAHAHAHA) but this kid, we want to go all the way for the quince anos!

459 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:33:54pm

re: #437 albusteve

Rte 81 is a totally stunning drive in fall and early spring through the appalachins.

460 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:34:09pm

re: #454 Wishing

Oh geez...now we have an 8year old missing in this fire mess!
Please God, let them find her!
missing for 2.5 hours! Why didn't they report this sooner!

What fire?
do I need to check upthread?

461 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:34:27pm

re: #452 Dianna

Um, pirates? Any nation's lawful prey?

Hello?

Hostis humani generis. Wonderful phrase.

462 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:34:39pm

re: #454 Wishing

Oh geez...now we have an 8year old missing in this fire mess!
Please God, let them find her!
missing for 2.5 hours! Why didn't they report this sooner!

Oh no. Special prayers for that youngster.

463 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:34:42pm

re: #455 Pvt Bin Jammin

Wow, just saw your post. Very interesting.

Sure is. I had no idea of the connection. Still looking to see if there ever was a conviction on this.

464 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:34:44pm

re: #369 Killgore Trout

Newt sez; Goda hates fags.....
Obama administration 'anti-religious,' Gingrich says

Perhaps an imam would satisfy Newt's requirements.

Looks like the religious right called in a few markers.

465 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:34:44pm

re: #460 reine.de.tout

What fire?
do I need to check upthread?

...it is my town in NE TN, large fire downtown.

466 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:34:48pm

re: #457 Killgore Trout

The guy's a Methodist. What's wrong with that?

See Blazing Saddles.

/

467 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:34:51pm

re: #459 irongrampa

Rte 81 is a totally stunning drive in fall and early spring through the appalachins.

where is that?...I've probably driven it

468 Eagle  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:35:09pm

re: #162 Cognito

Just pure speculation on my part. But I believe that "factual illiteracy" (good phrase) will ultimately be defeated, or beaten down, by the internet. With so many alternate viewpoints available on any one topic, most people will ultimately come to realize they have no-one to rely on but themselves, to determine right and wrong on a topic, as best they can. How else can they come to terms with terabytes of contradictory interpretations?

People now have this incredible resource that enables them to get more sides to a story than they ever imagined existed. It will encourage critical thinking.

I know I will read a great debate on LGF. (esp that legalizing pot thread a few days ago). Lots of good comments. many great comments. Made me think. Point is, LGF will stand the test of time. (Why else do so many come here to attack it?). Can't say the same for Pamela's blog (Ayn Rand is rolling in her grave at the name), which I used to read regularly up till approx 2 years ago. It was obviously becoming sensationalist, and I prefer a good debate on LGF. (And I remember the days when she used to comment here)

And I question whether factual illiteracy is on the rise. Could it possibly be on the decline?

469 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:35:09pm

Out for the night.
{goddess}
jcm ... *high five*

470 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:35:29pm

re: #463 Gus 802

Sure is. I had no idea of the connection. Still looking to see if there ever was a conviction on this.

Keep us posted as to what you find.

471 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:35:32pm

re: #428 jcm

Bainbridge is an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer.
Very limited resources against small surface targets.

I'm thinking the four or five Marines with an M-1 and an attitude might be sufficient.

472 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:35:38pm

re: #434 dwdw49

i've already admitted to being an ass, and i'll add fool and idiot if that pleases you, oh, and btw the actual bc has not been released. sorry to confuse you with the facts. what are you going to call me now?

can you say "ad hominem"?

Oh, (forgive me, all believers for this) Sweet Jesus!

Ahem.

A certificate of live birth is a legal document. It has the same information as a "full" birth certificate. You use it to establish your identity when you get a passport, or any number of other official documents that require you to prove your date and place of birth.

Anyone calling it into question is being deliberately obtuse.

473 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:36:02pm

re: #464 Charles

Newt's positioning himself for a presidential run.

474 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:36:09pm

re: #428 jcm

Bainbridge is an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer.
Very limited resources against small surface targets.

She's got .50 cals and 25mm cannons, those are enough to see off any pirates.

475 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:36:26pm

re: #467 albusteve

Major North/South route through Ny, Pa, Virginia, etc. It's an Interstate.

476 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:36:31pm

re: #432 avanti

Maybe I owe an apology to you for accusing you of LYING about being a veteran. If I do, you have it.

I apologize, avanti.

But, I still cannot figure out how a veteran of this nation's military could make excuses for the CiC's not paying his respects to the dead on one of the most important battlefields of this nation's history.

If you're not a liar, you're a stupid fucking idiot. A thousand poxes on your ass. You're a TRAITOR to the memories of those who gave it all liberating Europe.

Fuck you.

477 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:36:53pm

re: #470 Pvt Bin Jammin

Keep us posted as to what you find.

Found it. He passed away on October 4, 2008.

I'm going to drop the topic.

478 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:36:54pm

re: #464 Charles

Looks like the religious right called in a few markers.

Newt's getting juiced up...he has put the hammer down lately

479 Desert Dog  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:37:26pm

It's from AP and Yahoo, but it still looks like there are Few Military Options for the US...

480 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:37:29pm

re: #440 Killgore Trout

Boy, I sure hope you get to the bottom of this whole, vast "tea party" conspiracy soon.

/you know, before it becomes an unhealthy obsession

481 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:05pm

Goodnight everyone. Charles, don't go crazy! That's what they want you to do.

482 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:08pm

re: #464 Charles

How?

483 Cognito  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:30pm

re: #468 Eagle

And I question whether factual illiteracy is on the rise. Could it possibly be on the decline?

I'm afraid it is indeed rising. I try to imagine the 9/11 Truth nonsense taking hold in, say, 1986, and it just seems impossible. That sort of mental disease dies on the air; it requires the sort of intravenous misinformation that only the Internet can provide.

484 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:30pm

re: #482 Dianna

How?

Er...and on whom? From whom?

I'm feeling dense.

485 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:38pm

re: #477 Gus 802

I'm with you on that.

486 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:40pm

OT

I hate loving people who aren't worth it.

That is all.

487 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:43pm

re: #440 Killgore Trout

Paulian Tea Party organizer, Eric Odom, doesn't mind if Nazis attend the Tea Parties but Michael Steele is not welcome.....
Chicago ‘Tea Party’ Rejects Michael Steele

....Michael Steele, has been dissed by the crew behind the Chicago Tea Party. Eric Odom, the event’s organizer, has posted the email he wrote to the Republican National Chairman’s staff after Steele asked to be a speaker.

What an asshole.

It's a calculated insult. He is challenging Steele over who run Bartertown.

488 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:46pm

re: #412 Cognito

I do's what I can.

LOL
So the other day my Blackberry just died...I freaked out..I can't live without my BB..It's what I do for work..
So I run out in panic mode and buy a new 50 dollar charger..No Dice..Must be the battery..So I go on-line to order one..And I see they are offering a super duper killer battery for the BB that will let me talk for a gazillion hours without charging..
I'm going..Whoa..order it! order it! My eyes were wide..
So I payed the overnight charges to get it here..
So I come home from lunch and it is here from FED-EX..I'm jacked up and open the box like my first Christmas..Pop in the Battery..And it is trice as thick as the old battery and the cover won't fit on the phone..Now I'm bummed..( But the BB works)
So I call customer service after lunch..Explain the whole thing..
The response..Of Course..You need a special back plate for that battery.
Again..This is something you could have told me yesterday!
I am over nighting a 7 dollar plate for like 20 bucks..only in America..LOL

489 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38:48pm

OK. Sun is setting. Kugel is ready. Gotta go, for real.

Bye, all.

490 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:39:18pm

re: #475 irongrampa

Major North/South route through Ny, Pa, Virginia, etc. It's an Interstate.

generally stay off the E way...but I think I enjoy the southern mountains the most...eastern KY and south into TN and VA...it's all good but I love the South

491 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:39:27pm

OT - exceprt from AP:

In a riveting high-seas drama, an unarmed American crew wrested control of their U.S.-flagged cargo ship from Somali pirates Wednesday and sent them fleeing to a lifeboat with the captain as hostage.

The destroyer USS Bainbridge, one of a half dozen warships that headed for the area, arrived at the scene Thursday morning a few hours before dawn, said Kevin Speers, a spokesman for the company that owns the Maersk Alabama. He said the boat with the pirates was floating near the ship, the first with an American crew to be taken by pirates off the Horn of Africa.
...
It remained unclear how the unarmed sailors could have overpowered pirates armed with automatic weapons.

Worried about the captain, but still this tickles me.

492 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:39:27pm

I wore an honest to goodness dress shirt, with a (gasp! tie) all day today. My neck is all chafed now. How do you guys do it?

493 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:03pm

re: #484 Dianna

re: #482 Dianna

How?

Er...and on whom? From whom?

You are a dirty, dirty little girl.

494 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:05pm

This is a fine way to end the day, Nirth herders! Bwahahaha!

495 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:12pm

re: #478 albusteve

Newt's getting juiced up...he has put the hammer down lately

I'm not suffering another four year campaign!

496 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:24pm

re: #464 Charles

Looks like the religious right called in a few markers.

Or they're sniffing markers.

497 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:36pm

re: #492 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wore an honest to goodness dress shirt, with a (gasp! tie) all day today. My neck is all chafed now. How do you guys do it?

I'm so glad you're here--this made me think of you.

498 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:53pm

re: #493 Occasional Reader

You are a dirty, dirty little girl.

I don't know if I should upding you or try to find a way to administer a virtual slap!

499 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:40:59pm

re: #480 Killian Bundy

Boy, I sure hope you get to the bottom of this whole, vast "tea party" conspiracy soon.

/you know, before it becomes an unhealthy obsession

Stop posting about this, Killgore! You're becoming obsessed!

"It's been called that before... and not by you." -Gandalf the Grey

500 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:41:03pm

re: #492 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wore an honest to goodness dress shirt, with a (gasp! tie) all day today. My neck is all chafed now. How do you guys do it?

I don't nor would I for all the tea in China...strickly hula skirts here

501 Gus  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:41:09pm

bbl!

502 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:41:32pm

Ok I think they found the little girl with other relatives. Apparently there is a group of rubber-neckers watching the fire, and she was split off from her mom and dad.

503 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:41:34pm

re: #431 retief_99
I certainly appreciate your service to our Country, but please don't think that somehow makes what you are saying miraculously legitimate. We had the Black Caucus visiting a murderous despot; we have a President flouncing through foreign nations denigrating America; we have a daily VP Comedy hour; we have changed "War on Terror" to "overseas contingency efforts"; we no longer have terrorist attacks, we have "man made disasters"; we have war braking out in states along the Mexican border because our virtual fence has virtually protected us; we are spending into oblivion with no end in site; we have a President who suddenly becomes fiscally conservative when the subject is DOD budgeting; and you, friend, are worried about another version of an already released document.

504 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:41:45pm

Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (Pre-Internet)
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

505 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:41:47pm

old timer passes through....

506 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:41:51pm

re: #494 pingjockey

This is a fine way to end the day, Nirth herders! Bwahahaha!

"nirth herder" - that's funny

507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:41:55pm

re: #486 goddessoftheclassroom

OT

I hate loving people who aren't worth it.

That is all.

You mean you love me anyway?

508 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:10pm

re: #483 Cognito

It's clear you weren't living in San Francisco in the 80's, Cog.

509 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:16pm

re: #495 Dianna

I'm not suffering another four year campaign!

I'd do anything to see Newt elected...the guy is a genius (okay bring it on)

510 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:37pm

re: #486 goddessoftheclassroom

{Our Lady of Seven Million Comments}

511 Cognito  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:55pm

re: #508 Dianna

It's clear you weren't living in San Francisco in the 80's, Cog.

No, I'm sure there was all sorts of nuttiness in San Francisco that I never heard about. But that's the point, isn't it?

512 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:42:59pm

re: #503 ArmyWife

I certainly appreciate your service to our Country, but please don't think that somehow makes what you are saying miraculously legitimate. We had the Black Caucus visiting a murderous despot; we have a President flouncing through foreign nations denigrating America; we have a daily VP Comedy hour; we have changed "War on Terror" to "overseas contingency efforts"; we no longer have terrorist attacks, we have "man made disasters"; we have war braking out in states along the Mexican border because our virtual fence has virtually protected us; we are spending into oblivion with no end in site; we have a President who suddenly becomes fiscally conservative when the subject is DOD budgeting; and you, friend, are worried about another version of an already released document.

Marvelous post!

513 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:43:07pm

re: #490 albusteve

Yah, if we're not goin someplace specific, on a schedule, we'll frequently use back roads, or state hiways. You can meet the neatest people that way, in the small towns.

514 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:43:11pm

re: #464 Charles

Looks like the religious right called in a few markers.

Why do you think markers were involved?

The "Religious Right" did not support Newt in the past (moral transgressions, etc).

I took this to be criticism at choosing a representative who wants to directly confront the Vatican as a poor choice.

I also agree with the "secular" stuff. Secular is fine with me, as long as I can believe what I want to believe. Government imposed secular pisses me off.

515 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:43:40pm

re: #507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You mean you love me anyway?

I do indeed--but you ARE worth it!

516 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:43:45pm

re: #505 coldwarrior

old timer passes through....

greetings...

517 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:43:49pm

re: #502 Wishing

Ok I think they found the little girl with other relatives. Apparently there is a group of rubber-neckers watching the fire, and she was split off from her mom and dad.

Thank God. The parents must have been sick with fear.

518 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:43:49pm

re: #503 ArmyWife

I certainly appreciate your service to our Country, but please don't think that somehow makes what you are saying miraculously legitimate. We had the Black Caucus visiting a murderous despot; we have a President flouncing through foreign nations denigrating America; we have a daily VP Comedy hour; we have changed "War on Terror" to "overseas contingency efforts"; we no longer have terrorist attacks, we have "man made disasters"; we have war braking out in states along the Mexican border because our virtual fence has virtually protected us; we are spending into oblivion with no end in site; we have a President who suddenly becomes fiscally conservative when the subject is DOD budgeting; and you, friend, are worried about another version of an already released document.

519 Cognito  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:44:13pm

re: #491 Catttt

OT - exceprt from AP:

Worried about the captain, but still this tickles me.

I love it. LOVE it.

I'm dying to hear the full tale.

520 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:44:14pm

re: #510 Sharmuta

{Our Lady of Seven Million Comments}

{Sharmuta}

Well, the lady of the seven millionth comment, anyway!

521 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:44:19pm

re: #448 razorbacker

Kansas, eh?

So, Mr. Johnson...or would you prefer Dunham? The truth will out.

I keeeel you!

522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:44:23pm

re: #493 Occasional Reader

Hope you're not mad at me for last night. I was acting grumpy (the non-smoking and all) admitted it later, hope you saw it.

Am actually doing okay with the quitting of the coffin nails. And would never, ever purposefully treat you shabbily.

You're one of my favorites.

523 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:44:23pm

I wrote a big long post about my kids and their "Birth Certificates" and their "Certificate of Live Birth," but then I thought:

Doesn't matter. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."

524 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:44:28pm

re: #503 ArmyWife
Bravo Zulu!

525 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:44:46pm

re: #517 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thank God. The parents must have been sick with fear.

Whew! It is bad enough that downtown is on fire, but losing a child in it, man o man, would have been a nightmare!

526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:44:59pm

re: #515 goddessoftheclassroom

Congrat's on the 7 thang.

527 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:45:01pm

re: #492 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wore an honest to goodness dress shirt, with a (gasp! tie) all day today. My neck is all chafed now. How do you guys do it?

What is this "tie" you speak of?

528 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:45:11pm

re: #487 Zimriel

Heh.

529 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:45:18pm

re: #514 jwb7605

Why do you think markers were involved?

Gee, I don't know. Politicians never make deals, do they?

What was I thinking.

530 Steffan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:45:24pm

OT: If you haven't already seen this..... Heh.

I happened across this story on the Jawa Report. The original story is here.

During his captivity, US marines forced Saddam, who was executed in 2006, to repeatedly watch the move South Park: Bigger, Longer And Uncut, which shows him as gay, as well as the boyfriend of Satan. He was also regularly depicted in a similar manner during the TV series.

How soon do you think we'll be hearing from the ACLU and Amnesty International about this?

As Rusty at the Jawa Report commented:

Yes, really. And it just gets better from there because the guards from the 4th Infantry Division who forced Saddam to watch the movie over and over again also got the now deceased dictator to sign an autograph to South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone.

Freaking. Awesome.

I couldn't say it better than that.

:)

531 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:45:37pm

re: #509 albusteve

I won't vote for him unless I have to. I really don't trust him, and I don't believe his protestations of conservative principle, either.

532 dwdw49  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:45:57pm

re: #441 Sharmuta

delusional? yes i am. i want the real BC, not what YOU think is the real bc. i have an actual bc, do you? sorry, i'm being delusional again, i was thinking the president should have one too. a COLB is not a real bc....sorry being delusional again......

533 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:46:02pm

re: #522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hope you're not mad at me for last night. I was acting grumpy (the non-smoking and all) admitted it later, hope you saw it..

Well... the good news is, I accept your apology.

The bad news is, I already "pushed the button" on the hitters, and they can't, you know, be recalled.

Sorry about that. But it was strictly business.

/taking the cannoli

534 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:46:09pm

re: #502 Wishing

Ok I think they found the little girl with other relatives. Apparently there is a group of rubber-neckers watching the fire, and she was split off from her mom and dad.

That's good news.

535 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:46:24pm

re: #520 goddessoftheclassroom

You are our goddessoftheclassroom and a lady. There are days I wish I could be more like you.

536 Cognito  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:46:44pm

re: #533 Occasional Reader


/taking the cannoli

Gold star for you.

537 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:47:02pm

re: #399 Cognito

"Who are you?"

"I am Number Two."

"Who does number two work for?!"
/Austin Powers

538 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:47:20pm

re: #511 Cognito

No, I'm sure there was all sorts of nuttiness in San Francisco that I never heard about. But that's the point, isn't it?

Cog, people at bus-stops talked the wildest stuff, and agreed with each other. Seriously, it was as if the whole city lived in an alternate universe.

Maybe you had to be there. But I'm more likely to encounter people with some grasp of reality these days than in all of SF back then.

539 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:47:42pm

re: #527 Alberta Oil Peon

What is this "tie" you speak of?

In my job, we are all required to wear shirt and tie. I generally go out in jeans and a polo shirt. Today, the muckity mucks were at the office and I had to (sigh) dress appropriately.

Seriously, I have grown so unaccustomed to dress shirts and ties that my neck is raw.

540 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:47:47pm

re: #532 dwdw49

I'll go further and say you're prime for a meltdown.

NO ONE has their original certificate- it is the property of the government. NO ONE is given their original certificate- it is property of the government. EVERYONE is given a certified copy. Do you even know what a certified copy means?

541 Digital Display  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:47:54pm

re: #533 Occasional Reader

Well... the good news is, I accept your apology.

The bad news is, I already "pushed the button" on the hitters, and they can't, you know, be recalled.

Sorry about that. But it was strictly business.

/taking the cannoli

YOU LEFT THE GUN?
A closet Democrat..
LOL

542 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:47:54pm

re: #535 Sharmuta

You are too kind.

543 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:47:58pm

Let's say this birth certificate allegation has merit (and I don't think it does).
Which Democrat appointed judge will hear the case? And what chance do they think they have with such a judge?

544 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:48:01pm

re: #529 Charles

Gee, I don't know. Politicians never make deals, do they?

What was I thinking.

Of course they make deals.
I just don't get the connection here.
This smacks (to me) more of a self-aggrandizing opportunity.

Not that I've ever seen Newt do something like that ...

545 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:48:01pm

re: #466 OldLineTexan

See Blazing Saddles.

/

Like this?

546 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:48:05pm

re: #513 irongrampa

Yah, if we're not goin someplace specific, on a schedule, we'll frequently use back roads, or state hiways. You can meet the neatest people that way, in the small towns.

I am obsessed with travel...it is what I live for...I inherited wanderlust from a long line of vacationers and vagabonds...I actually just love the whole country and am very comfortable wherever I am...but I do love the south, the deeper the better...small towns and big cities...whatever...I want to go everywhere

547 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:48:13pm
548 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:48:13pm

re: #537 Dar ul Harb

"Who does number two work for?!"
/Austin Powers

I won't say! I'm no stool pigeon!

549 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:48:33pm

re: #530 Steffan

Yes, really. And it just gets better from there because the guards from the 4th Infantry Division who forced Saddam to watch the movie over and over again also got the now deceased dictator to sign an autograph to South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone.

Freaking. Awesome.

That belongs in the National Archives.

550 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:48:38pm

re: #480 Killian Bundy

I'm shocked by the insanity of the whole thing. I'm not a supporter of the Tea Party agenda so normally I'd be happy to watch them embarrass themselves. But it looks like they are gaining popularity and they are going to end up being a major embarrassment to the GOP. I was hoping the Republicans would take their time off to get their shit together but it looks like they've just decided to go insane.

551 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:48:38pm

re: #504 jaunte

Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (Pre-Internet)
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Devil Take the Hindmost: A History of Financial Speculation

/better, actually published in this century

552 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:48:49pm

re: #542 goddessoftheclassroom

You are too kind.

No- you are the epitome of kind. The world would be a better place if there were more people like you in it.

553 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:00pm

goddessoftheclassroom,
Congrats on your 7 million! Are you going to play the lottery this week?
=)

554 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:04pm

re: #464 Charles

Looks like the religious right called in a few markers.

I'd say it was a slap at religious conservatives by Obama (Knox's appointment), and I think that Obama would rather that the whole faith-based initiative thing went away. He wants to reduce the tax deduction for charitable contributions, which would reduce the money charities receive, pushing more people toward government programs, making them dependent on the government. So, socialism, exactly what Obama wants.

555 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:05pm

re: #505 coldwarrior

old timer passes through....

Howdy.

Looking at your avatar made me remember to look up the history of the rainbow division. We met someone last weekend that had it on his uniform.

556 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:36pm

re: #487 Zimriel

It's a calculated insult. He is challenging Steele over who run Bartertown.

And what's worse, they gave a speaking slot to Alan Keyes. Well at least they won't have to worry about interference from the Chicago Machine, since the Machine will be laughing its collective ass off at them for inviting Keyes.

557 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:37pm

re: #474 Dark_Falcon

She's got .50 cals and 25mm cannons, those are enough to see off any pirates.

True, anything she can see she can kill, her primary function is the air bubble around a carrier, and ASW.

I was thinking LSD-41 Whidbey Island class to pursue.....

558 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:40pm

re: #551 Killian Bundy

Thanks, I'll add it to the pile.

559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:43pm

re: #548 Occasional Reader

I won't say! I'm no stool pigeon!

Then, you will sleep with the feces...

560 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:49:47pm

re: #540 Sharmuta

You are trying to use logic on a klingon. It won't work.

561 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:50:03pm

re: #550 Killgore Trout

I'm shocked by the insanity of the whole thing. I'm not a supporter of the Tea Party agenda so normally I'd be happy to watch them embarrass themselves. But it looks like they are gaining popularity and they are going to end up being a major embarrassment to the GOP. I was hoping the Republicans would take their time off to get their shit together but it looks like they've just decided to go insane.

I can't figure out which party wants to be top dog nutcase.

562 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:50:20pm

re: #129 Gus 802

So what you're saying then is that Bob Dylan is Obama's real father? //

Oh, where have you been, my blue-eyed son?
Oh, where have you been, my darling young one?
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains,
I've walked and I've crawled on six crooked highways,
I've stepped in the middle of seven sad forests,
I've been out in front of a dozen dead oceans,
I've been ten thousand miles in the mouth of a graveyard,
And it's a hard, and it's a hard, it's a hard, and it's a hard,
And it's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.

563 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:50:24pm

re: #503 ArmyWife

All spelling errors are noted on this end. PIMF (if only I'd use it).

564 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:50:30pm

re: #550 Killgore Trout

I'm shocked by the insanity of the whole thing. I'm not a supporter of the Tea Party agenda so normally I'd be happy to watch them embarrass themselves. But it looks like they are gaining popularity and they are going to end up being a major embarrassment to the GOP. I was hoping the Republicans would take their time off to get their shit together but it looks like they've just decided to go insane.

/I'm sorry, I missed the part where the Republican party had anything whatsoever to do with this

565 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:50:40pm

re: #532 dwdw49

delusional? yes i am. i want the real BC, not what YOU think is the real bc. i have an actual bc, do you? sorry, i'm being delusional again, i was thinking the president should have one too. a COLB is not a real bc....sorry being delusional again......

I've dinged you UP because I want to believe that you will pay attention, dwdw.

566 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:50:40pm

NEWS FLASH! COLB = BC. Look it up.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

567 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:51:04pm

re: #532 dwdw49

delusional? yes i am. i want the real BC, not what YOU think is the real bc. i have an actual bc, do you? sorry, i'm being delusional again, i was thinking the president should have one too. a COLB is not a real bc....sorry being delusional again......

I repeat (forgive me, again, believers): Oh, sweet Jesus!

A certificate of live birth is a birth certificate. You are being obtuse.

568 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:51:08pm

Here's the b.c.
Image: EMP-383_LRG.jpg
Take two.

569 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:51:18pm

re: #546 albusteve

That sounds EXACTLY like my Dad. He and Ma made a second career of travel, after they retired.

570 UncleRancher  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:51:51pm

re: #510 Sharmuta

{Our Lady of Seven Million Comments}

What a privilege to be in the presence of greatness!
{Goddess}:-)

571 Steffan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:51:54pm

re: #529 Charles

Gee, I don't know. Politicians never make deals, do they?

What was I thinking.

Of course not. And, while we're thinking about it, that man you saw behind the curtain was a figure of your imagination. He doesn't really exist. Nope, nope, nope.

/do I have to say it?

572 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:51:57pm

re: #516 albusteve

*cough* (dust flies about)

573 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:52:00pm

Wow, so Americans passed Europeans in wine consumption last year? I guess that makes sense, seeing how those European muslims don't drink.

574 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:52:04pm

re: #565 MandyManners

I've dinged you UP because I want to believe that you will pay attention, dwdw.

SO?

575 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:52:09pm

Gonna get some sleep. See y'all in the morning.

576 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:52:23pm

re: #566 Sharmuta

NEWS FLASH! COLB = BC. Look it up.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

That's Wikipedia. We all know about Wikipedia. Nice try.
//WND

577 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:52:41pm

re: #557 jcm
They need to move a Amphib support ship down there with a bunch of the Typhoon class PCs. Those would be real good pirate killers.

578 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:52:56pm

re: #550 Killgore Trout

I'm shocked by the insanity of the whole thing. I'm not a supporter of the Tea Party agenda so normally I'd be happy to watch them embarrass themselves. But it looks like they are gaining popularity and they are going to end up being a major embarrassment to the GOP. I was hoping the Republicans would take their time off to get their shit together but it looks like they've just decided to go insane.

shocked?...oh please...you must live a sheltered life...and these are just ordinary people, not sanctioned by the GOP...you really are becoming obsessed....SHOCKA!

579 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:53:12pm

Good night.

580 BatGuano  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:53:13pm

I just posted this on the wrong thread.

Werner Heisenberg was pulled over by a policeman.
The policeman asked, " Do you know how fast you were going?'
Heisenberg replied, "No, but I know where I am".

581 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:53:16pm

re: #550 Killgore Trout

I'm shocked by the insanity of the whole thing. I'm not a supporter of the Tea Party agenda so normally I'd be happy to watch them embarrass themselves. But it looks like they are gaining popularity and they are going to end up being a major embarrassment to the GOP. I was hoping the Republicans would take their time off to get their shit together but it looks like they've just decided to go insane.

Getting it out of their system, perhaps?

582 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:53:24pm

re: #576 jwb7605

That's Wikipedia. We all know about Wikipedia. Nice try.
//WND

Yep- the cited source being the Census Bureau. What do they know? ////

583 wee fury  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:53:42pm

re: #568 jaunte

Here's the b.c.
[Link: www.empiredistributor.com...]
Take two.

That is good stuff.

584 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:53:44pm
585 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:53:50pm

re: #471 jwb7605

I'm thinking the four or five Marines with an M-1 and an attitude might be sufficient.

Let's give 'em a Ma Deuce, at least

586 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:53:56pm

re: #580 BatGuano

I just posted this on the wrong thread.

Werner Heisenberg was pulled over by a policeman.
The policeman asked, " Do you know how fast you were going?'
Heisenberg replied, "No, but I know where I am".

I actually get it!

587 Mithrax  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:54:02pm

re: #577 pingjockey

They need to move a Amphib support ship down there with a bunch of the Typhoon class PCs. Those would be real good pirate killers.

I'm telling you, then just need one of these!
Victory!

588 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:54:04pm

re: #582 Sharmuta

Yep- the cited source being the Census Bureau. What do they know? ////

Well, isn't it being run by Acorn now?

//

589 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:54:06pm

re: #577 pingjockey

They need to move a Amphib support ship down there with a bunch of the Typhoon class PCs. Those would be real good pirate killers.

If we don't smack 'em down, and hard. It's only gonna' get worse.

590 dwdw49  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:54:19pm

re: #540 Sharmuta

i'll stop the world and melt with you....

i think you are playing a game of semantics. wouldn't a real bc say what hospital he was born in? just asking.

591 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:54:20pm

re: #576 jwb7605
I have not one, not two, but 5 birth certificates in front of me. Guess what? They all say Certificate of LIVE BIRTH. Even the wifes and it's from Wales.

592 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:54:42pm

re: #573 Ward Cleaver

Wow, so Americans passed Europeans in wine consumption last year? I guess that makes sense, seeing how those European muslims don't drink.

Oh, believe you me, they drink booze and do drugs; they just don't drink wine.

593 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:54:46pm

re: #582 Sharmuta

Yep- the cited source being the Census Bureau. What do they know? ////

EXACTLY! I thought for a moment you'd been sucked in.
( // )

594 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:54:51pm

re: #557 jcm

True, anything she can see she can kill, her primary function is the air bubble around a carrier, and ASW.

I was thinking LSD-41 Whidbey Island class to pursue.....

The Bainbridge will do, though I'd prefer it if she had a couple of 7.62mm Gatlings like some other USN ships do.

595 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:55:10pm

re: #512 Wishing

re: #524 pingjockey

Thanks.

596 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:55:32pm

re: #587 Mithrax
Not fast enough, but it'd scare the shit of them fer sure!

597 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:55:33pm

re: #569 irongrampa

That sounds EXACTLY like my Dad. He and Ma made a second career of travel, after they retired.

I'm only 56...I've spent a small fortune wandering around...three wives and none of them would put up with it...my parents and all my grandparents travelled the world over back in the day...I'm still checking out Texas...hahaha...lots of nooks and crannies

598 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:55:45pm

re: #492 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wore an honest to goodness dress shirt, with a (gasp! tie) all day today. My neck is all chafed now. How do you guys do it?

HA! I don't, so there!

/

599 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:55:56pm

re: #578 albusteve

What's your take on the Tea Party people?
I support the premise, and the people who are participating.
If they can keep the lunatic fringe under control, or negate them, I believe it can really go nationwide large scale.

600 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:55:57pm

re: #561 jwb7605

I can't figure out which party wants to be top dog nutcase.

The right is winning the crazy contest. From the way I see it the Dems have the most interest in actually fixing the economy. It's their turn in power and if it flops they get the blame. The Republicans are adopting a Ron Paul approach. The country must be destroyed to rebuild itself.
I think if the Reps were still in power they might act responsibly and maybe they are just being contrary now because they don't have any influence over what happens. I really don't see much rational thought from Republicans these days.

601 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:55:59pm

re: #591 pingjockey

I have not one, not two, but 5 birth certificates in front of me. Guess what? They all say Certificate of LIVE BIRTH. Even the wifes and it's from Wales.

Yeah, right. You didn't sign it, though, did you? Huh? She didn't, either, right?

602 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:56:07pm

re: #564 Killian Bundy

/I'm sorry, I missed the part where the Republican party had anything whatsoever to do with this

I'm betting there will be a bunch of Democrats there too.
Just like people tried to hang Prop. 8 around the Republicans, but Prop. 8 could not have gotten passed without the help of a whole bunch of Dems.
(I voted NO, BTW)

603 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:56:26pm

re: #572 coldwarrior

*cough* (dust flies about)

waters fine....

604 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:56:28pm

re: #589 jcm
Yep. They're getting bolder and going further out to sea.

605 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:56:44pm

re: #590 dwdw49

i'll stop the world and melt with you....

i think you are playing a game of semantics. wouldn't a real bc say what hospital he was born in? just asking.

Mine doesn't.

606 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:56:49pm

re: #590 dwdw49

i'll stop the world and melt with you....

i think you are playing a game of semantics. wouldn't a real bc say what hospital he was born in? just asking.

No- you're the one playing semantics. A certified short form usually doesn't contain the hospital's name. It IN NO WAY invalidates the remaining information or is ANY LESS a legal document accepted nation wide as proof of citizenship.

607 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:57:22pm
608 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:57:46pm

re: #601 jwb7605
Nope, it's mine. How in hell can a baby sign a COLB?

609 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:58:09pm

re: #600 Killgore Trout

The right is winning the crazy contest. From the way I see it the Dems have the most interest in actually fixing the economy. It's their turn in power and if it flops they get the blame. The Republicans are adopting a Ron Paul approach. The country must be destroyed to rebuild itself.
I think if the Reps were still in power they might act responsibly and maybe they are just being contrary now because they don't have any influence over what happens. I really don't see much rational thought from Republicans these days.


I think you're on to something.
That is something I've felt for a while.
The Republicans are simply playing the same game the Democrats played with Iraq, but I think they've got a better chance of "winning".

610 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:58:12pm

re: #572 coldwarrior

aaaaagghhhh...well...i recognizere: #603 albusteve

some of you.

mmmmgh...

611 The Shadow Do  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:58:14pm

re: #550 Killgore Trout

I'm shocked by the insanity of the whole thing. I'm not a supporter of the Tea Party agenda so normally I'd be happy to watch them embarrass themselves. But it looks like they are gaining popularity and they are going to end up being a major embarrassment to the GOP. I was hoping the Republicans would take their time off to get their shit together but it looks like they've just decided to go insane.

I think what we are seeing right now is typical of a party out of power. As elections approach we are likely to see some coalescence around a few ideas and even fewer people. The nutters out there now are apt to find themselves on the sidelines when the game gets serious.

612 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:58:25pm
613 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:58:29pm

re: #605 Dianna

Mine doesn't.

I have both my long and short forms. Only my short form is certified. It was the one given to me by the county as proof of citizenship, and has never been questioned by any employer I've submitted it to as such.

614 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:59:03pm

re: #608 pingjockey

Nope, it's mine. How in hell can a baby sign a COLB?

AHA! Proof you can't be president!

615 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:59:10pm

re: #457 Killgore Trout

The guy's a Methodist. What's wrong with that?

He's a former Methodist minister. It didn't say he was a Methodist.

616 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:59:21pm

re: #612 jcm

EDITORIAL: Pirates of Puntland (WATimes)

The Pirate State has a web site!

Puntland State of Somalia

Sounds like a state that needs to get punted.

617 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:59:35pm

Pssssst. Gather 'round chillins, and prepare to hear a conspiracy so convoluted that it just must be true, for what mind could spin it out of thin air?

Long ago, an offshoot of the Northwest Arkansas Dunhams ran off to Kansas. A girl child eventually issued. Met a tall, dark stranger and birthed a child. Or did she?

A boy is born to an Arkansas woman in Hope (Hmmmm), rises to the most powerful office in the free world. On the way, he lives in Northwest Arkansas and develops his own distinctive philosophy. He brings a wife (from Chicago) and trains her in the ways of power.

Another child rises to become a famed pastor. In Hope (Hummmmm). This child will one day run for the most powerful office in the land. Lacking sufficent support for himself, he bids his time. Meanwhile kneecapping an unsuspecting Morman.

This allows the progeny of the Kansas girl-child and the dark stranger to face a weak old man and easily best him for the most important office in the land. His plan? Hope.

Hope. Chicago. Fundamental religion. Do you see any change, here?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

618 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:59:52pm

re: #584 taxfreekiller

tfk

619 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:59:55pm

re: #604 pingjockey

Yep. They're getting bolder and going further out to sea.

Just the ticket for a Ole' BB!

*I love that picture*

620 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:00:16pm

re: #614 jwb7605
Bwahahaha! I don't want to be prez. I want to be Emperor! Fuck that congress shit.

621 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:00:36pm
622 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:01:06pm

re: #606 Sharmuta

No- you're the one playing semantics. A certified short form usually doesn't contain the hospital's name. It IN NO WAY invalidates the remaining information or is ANY LESS a legal document accepted nation wide as proof of citizenship.

Mine - and I have the actual one they send home with your baby-self - does not mention the hospital. It does list the city and county, the doctor's name, my parents' names (no mention of anyone's religion at all), my name, date and time of birth, sex, and weight. It also has my really cute little footprint.

All the things the nirthers think might keep it from being displayed aren't there.

The short form - which I also possess in case I need a passport or something - shows the same info, but not in calligraphy.

Nirthers? Get a grip. Please!

623 Hawaii69  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:01:06pm

Hey look, the nuttiness has switched sides!

...and it's only beem 3 months.

624 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:01:10pm

re: #599 irongrampa

What's your take on the Tea Party people?
I support the premise, and the people who are participating.
If they can keep the lunatic fringe under control, or negate them, I believe it can really go nationwide large scale.

agreed....but there is a valid point to this crazy 'fringe' that everyone is talking about...they are on the verge of subverting the whole thing...I'd like it to be a one message deal but of course that's impossible...but I certainly don't blame the GOP or the average joe that's out there....politics is very slick and very professional....but regardless I want to see it take off....I'm a rabble rouser myself...it takes all kinds

625 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:01:20pm

re: #615 Ward Cleaver

Maybe he interprets the Bible differently. Why does Newt think anything other that his interpretation is rabid secularism? I get the impression that the guy is still religious and seems to be active in religious affairs. He's qualified for the job.

626 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:01:52pm

re: #610 coldwarrior

aaaaagghhhh...well...i recognizere: #603 albusteve

some of you.

mmmmgh...

Haven't seen you in ages. How've you been?

627 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:01:52pm

re: #600 Killgore Trout

The right is winning the crazy contest. From the way I see it the Dems have the most interest in actually fixing the economy. It's their turn in power and if it flops they get the blame. The Republicans are adopting a Ron Paul approach. The country must be destroyed to rebuild itself.
I think if the Reps were still in power they might act responsibly and maybe they are just being contrary now because they don't have any influence over what happens. I really don't see much rational thought from Republicans these days.

Please, you need a refresher stroll through Zomblog.

/we haven't even achieved giant puppet heads yet, let alone mastered the art of parading naked through the streets

628 Sheepdogess  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:01:58pm

OT - The sidebar stretch mark ad is gross. Navel piercings, also gross.

BTW, on the COLB, the fathers race was listed as "African". Africa is a continent, not a race.

In any event, we are having fun looking at our kids Birth Certificates ;^)

629 dwdw49  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:02:24pm

re: #606 Sharmuta

ok, you are right, a short form does not. so why can't we see the long form. would it compromise national security? or is it so secret that only the highest levels of the knights templar can see it?

630 retief_99  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:02:42pm

re: #503 ArmyWife

Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, every service member has the duty to question every order from superiors as to the legality of the order, this duty starts at the rank of Private or Seaman. As Barack Obama is the Commander in Chief of the US military, all military people have the duty and the right to question the legality of any orders issued by him. I myself have not exercised that duty but a growing number of US Military members have. Are they Nirthers or kooks, or worse because they are following Federal Law?

631 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:02:49pm

re: #620 pingjockey

Bwahahaha! I don't want to be prez. I want to be Emperor! Fuck that congress shit.

Oh, crap. General Zod. I didn't recognize you!

632 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:02:58pm

re: #621 taxfreekiller

If the orgainzers ask you to put on fresh new running shoes and drink cool aid, don't do it. You will not get on the comet.
Nesara!

633 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:03:16pm

re: #532 dwdw49

delusional? yes i am. i want the real BC, not what YOU think is the real bc. i have an actual bc, do you? sorry, i'm being delusional again, i was thinking the president should have one too. a COLB is not a real bc....sorry being delusional again......

re: #590 dwdw49

i'll stop the world and melt with you....

i think you are playing a game of semantics. wouldn't a real bc say what hospital he was born in? just asking.


You seem to be playing a self-delusional game of semantics.
My daughter's birth cert, I just looked at it, says, "Certificate of Live Birth".
COLB. The real McCoy. The genuine article. Certificate of Live Birth.

634 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:03:20pm

re: #619 jcm
I had the distinct pleasure of seeing the Wisconsin on the gun line in 1991. Plus did NGFS exercises with the New Jersey. Totally fucking AWESOME!

635 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:03:47pm

I ain't worried about tfk drinking the Kool-Aid, he seems to have jungle smarts.

636 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:03:54pm

My take on the Tea Party: I initially supported it in a lukewarm fashion (I didn't go to the first one they had here). Then I heard about the Ronulan infiltration. I suggested stringent message control. Later I realised that the nuttiness wasn't restricted to the fringe, but is becoming an organising principle of the Tea Party movement. Any attempt to shut down crazy messages would probably result in a mini riot at this point.

We'll probably not see as many nirthers; but I expect we'll see a lot of in-your-FACE anti-media agitation, barely-veiled racism, and ronpaul!ronpaul!ronpaul!.

So they'll have to have their tea without me.

637 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:04:20pm

Please make the insanity stop ...!

OT ... I like this Bjork song ...

638 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:04:27pm

America, sweet America.

639 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:04:31pm

re: #627 Killian Bundy

umm..can you hand me a towel, PRONTO?

640 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:04:35pm

Snopes to Nirthers.
Status: False

641 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:04:46pm

re: #621 taxfreekiller

[Link: www.taxdayteaparty.com...]

over on the right item 7 down under latest news

Ultimate Tea Party Map

show all the places that will have a tea party

Kilgore's worst nightmare , millions and millions of crazy sluap noR all working to end loon liberal global bull shit

wowzas!

642 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:04:49pm

re: #638 MandyManners

:)

643 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:04:57pm

re: #630 retief_99

Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, every service member has the duty to question every order from superiors as to the legality of the order, this duty starts at the rank of Private or Seaman. As Barack Obama is the Commander in Chief of the US military, all military people have the duty and the right to question the legality of any orders issued by him. I myself have not exercised that duty but a growing number of US Military members have. Are they Nirthers or kooks, or worse because they are following Federal Law?

I questioned and disobeyed one order.
That cost me the rate of E-5, which I regained in 6 months.
It cost the officer issuing the order further promotions.

Simple judgement by our squadron C.O., and I think it was the right one.

644 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:05:00pm

re: #629 dwdw49

ok, you are right, a short form does not. so why can't we see the long form. would it compromise national security? or is it so secret that only the highest levels of the knights templar can see it?

Read my post.

Then shut up.

You're an idiot.

645 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:05:23pm

re: #613 Sharmuta

I have both my long and short forms. Only my short form is certified. It was the one given to me by the county as proof of citizenship, and has never been questioned by any employer I've submitted it to as such.

Very often the "short form" is acceptable within your state.
However, the "long form" must be produced for a passport.

I know this, I just had to go through this last year.

Obama has a passport.
He must have produced the proper documents to get it.
It is silly and ridiculous for anyone to insist that he continue to produce this documentation simply because they don't want to accept that he is a citizen.

646 Sheepdogess  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:05:37pm

Long.
Form.

647 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:05:37pm

re: #629 dwdw49

ok, you are right, a short form does not. so why can't we see the long form. would it compromise national security? or is it so secret that only the highest levels of the knights templar can see it?

Because the standard form the vast majorities of counties/states issue is the short form. It's not an issue that they do so, because the short form is considered legal proof of citizenship.

648 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:05:51pm

re: #635 OldLineTexan

I ain't worried about tfk drinking the Kool-Aid, he seems to have jungle smarts.

NEVER mess with the TFK

649 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:05:57pm

re: #630 retief_99
BULLSHIT! You have the right to question an order that is illegal or you feel is illegal. Not every order.

650 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:06:15pm

re: #636 Zimriel

Somebody linked to a video this morning posted at RedState of Tea Party harasing reporters to the point that they ran to the police. They didn't feel the police could protect them so they left. Disgraceful.

651 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:06:17pm

Oh.
Brother.

652 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:06:19pm

re: #624 albusteve

If subversion of this movement--yes, it IS a movement-can be negated, super. Otherwise it makes me sick to think about.
One thing you can be assured, the MSM will do their part to shitcan it.

653 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:06:29pm

re: #634 pingjockey

I had the distinct pleasure of seeing the Wisconsin on the gun line in 1991. Plus did NGFS exercises with the New Jersey. Totally fucking AWESOME!

My father in law was on the USS Maddox in Korea and was on the gun line with the Missouri. The Maddox had the "pleasure" of being the most fire upon DD in Korea. Nearly 800 rounds with one minor hit.

654 Archimedes  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:06:35pm

re: #301 Pvt Bin Jammin

Wow. I'm sure you love it. "purple mountains majesty..."

Would you guys stop making a mountain out of a mountain!

655 Gella  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:06:57pm

are we still talking about it? oooppsss i am sooo late for the party

656 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:07:10pm

re: #640 Mich-again

Snopes to Nirthers.
Status: False

They're in on it.
/

657 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:07:12pm

re: #645 reine.de.tout

Very often the "short form" is acceptable within your state.
However, the "long form" must be produced for a passport.

I know this, I just had to go through this last year.

Obama has a passport.
He must have produced the proper documents to get it.
It is silly and ridiculous for anyone to insist that he continue to produce this documentation simply because they don't want to accept that he is a citizen.

Um....no. I used my short form.

658 Sheepdogess  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:07:18pm

re: #640 Mich-again

Snopes to Nirthers.
Status: False

Snopes has a left leaning bias.

659 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:07:59pm

re: #655 Gella

are we still talking about it? oooppsss i am sooo late for the party

Arent you Miss 699,999,999?

660 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:09pm

re: #654 Archimedes

Would you guys stop making a mountain out of a mountain!

That beats making it into a molehill! :-)

661 Gella  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:10pm

re: #659 Wishing

Arent you Miss 699,999,999?

yes i am :)

662 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:12pm

re: #649 pingjockey

BULLSHIT! You have the right to question an order that is illegal or you feel is illegal. Not every order.

You have the right to question every order you feel is illegal.
Whether you obey the order determines your future.
See my previous post.

663 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:13pm

re: #650 Killgore Trout

Somebody linked to a video this morning posted at RedState of Tea Party harasing reporters to the point that they ran to the police. They didn't feel the police could protect them so they left. Disgraceful.

Every one of them?

How many?

Shall we lock them all up?

Do we need a bigger jail?

664 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:16pm

re: #653 jcm
I'd tell a joke, but it is in bad taste, 800 rounds and only one hit. That's bad shootin' Tex.

665 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:21pm

re: #655 Gella

are we still talking about it? oooppsss i am sooo late for the party

Only because of some really determined idjits.

666 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:29pm

0bama is also not releasing his long form because he doesn't have to.

You guys are doing his heavy lifting for him. Helloooooo!

667 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:36pm

re: #661 Gella

yes i am :)

I hope you are not planning on buying a lottery ticket?

668 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:44pm

re: #650 Killgore Trout

Somebody linked to a video this morning posted at RedState of Tea Party harasing reporters to the point that they ran to the police. They didn't feel the police could protect them so they left. Disgraceful.

Yep. That's what I was referring to.

It sucks being wrong, but you can't be feeling too much better about being right.

669 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:49pm

re: #649 pingjockey

watchout....you can only go against if the orders are against geneva.

"i was only following orders" ended with nazis

670 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:54pm

re: #658 Sheepdogess

Snopes has a left leaning bias.

NOOOOOOO!

671 Gella  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:08:56pm

re: #665 Dianna

Only because of some really determined idjits.

figures, can we just move on? and live happily ever after?
well, but i am just saying :)

672 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:09:01pm
673 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:09:11pm

re: #664 pingjockey

I'd tell a joke, but it is in bad taste, 800 rounds and only one hit. That's bad shootin' Tex.

That was the Norko's at the Maddox!

674 Gella  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:09:22pm

re: #667 Wishing

I hope you are not planning on buying a lottery ticket?

with my Jewish luck, i'd never win a cent :)

675 reine.de.tout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:10:02pm

re: #657 Dianna

Um....no. I used my short form.

Well, I should have said: In the state where I live, the short form is acceptable for in-state needs.
Long form for everything else.
It must have something to do with differences in how each state issues these things.

But the bottom line is - in order to get a passport, you MUST produce documentation that satisfies federal requirements. And it's strict.

Since Obama did that, then he produced documentation sufficient to satisfy the passport folks that he is a citizen.

It is not necessary for him to keep producing it.

676 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:10:07pm

re: #674 Gella

with my Jewish luck, i'd never win a cent :)

Chag sameach!

677 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:10:07pm

re: #662 jwb7605
Right. The way I read it was every order. You are correct, but if you intend to fight the legality of said order, you better be damn sure it's illegal!

678 Gella  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:10:27pm

re: #676 Wishing

Chag sameach!

thanks, same to you :)

679 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:10:55pm

re: #678 Gella

Thanks!

680 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:11:16pm

re: #600 Killgore Trout

The right is winning the crazy contest. From the way I see it the Dems have the most interest in actually fixing the economy. It's their turn in power and if it flops they get the blame. The Republicans are adopting a Ron Paul approach. The country must be destroyed to rebuild itself.
I think if the Reps were still in power they might act responsibly and maybe they are just being contrary now because they don't have any influence over what happens. I really don't see much rational thought from Republicans these days.

you are a neophyte...I marched against the VN war in Chicago twice and Indy once, plus my hometown...you make it sound like some video game...it isn't...it is not a contest...there are all kinds of people that show up and they can't be dismissed because they don't fit your agenda...it's not about parties it's about ideas regardless of what you think...to continuously slam something people are trying to do because they think it's right makes you look like a deadbeat that does not even vote...it's not a perfect thing but neither are the people themselves including you....what have you done lately to bend the tide....bitch bitch bitch...thanks for all the updates on how these people are failing to make you happy...yoemans work eh?...did you even leave the front of your monitor to accomplish such a task?....

681 irongrampa  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:11:19pm

Time for the old folk. Been a good boy, so we get to annoy some trout tomorrow.

We WILL persevere, good people. Count on it.

682 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:11:23pm

re: #671 Gella

figures, can we just move on? and live happily ever after?
well, but i am just saying :)

Obama's in office, and I'm not happy.

But this nirth certificate nonsense makes me want to jump up and down on body parts after they've seethed in boiling oil for a while. It's just so stupid!

Obdurate idiocy ought to be properly punished.

683 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:11:29pm

There aren't enough registered Republicans left to be responsible for half the stuff that they get accused of.

684 summergurl  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:11:51pm

re: #255 Charles

Every time I post about this subject, more Nirthers pop up.

It's a good way to clean house...

685 Steffan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:11:53pm

re: #532 dwdw49

delusional? yes i am. i want the real BC, not what YOU think is the real bc. i have an actual bc, do you? sorry, i'm being delusional again, i was thinking the president should have one too. a COLB is not a real bc....sorry being delusional again......

I don't mean to denigrate you or wonder what you've been smoking, but those of us who work in the public sector and have seen for ourselves what the state of Hawaii offers as proof of birth -- or marriage -- are quite content to accept that the b/c thus offered is actually genuine, and that the statements by state officials speaking in their official capacity as representatives of the state of Hawaii that the certificate thus offered is genuine... are the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Remember, if you will, that he does have a US passport, and that he had it long before he ever ran for public office. Despite what you may have heard, the proof-of-citizenship requirements for a US passport are reasonably stringent. If he obtained one under false pretenses, we would have heard of it long before this.

I also don't think that Dr. Who, Sailor Pluto, or the team that owns the Time Tunnel would take someone back in time merely to plant a birth announcement in the local Honolulu papers.

Frankly, I'd rather lambaste Obama for what he's actually doing rather than for an illusory issue that only makes you look like a frothing-at-the-mouth nut. Give it a freakin' rest, already.

686 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:12:05pm

re: #675 reine.de.tout

Well, I should have said: In the state where I live, the short form is acceptable for in-state needs.
Long form for everything else.
It must have something to do with differences in how each state issues these things.

But the bottom line is - in order to get a passport, you MUST produce documentation that satisfies federal requirements. And it's strict.

Since Obama did that, then he produced documentation sufficient to satisfy the passport folks that he is a citizen.

It is not necessary for him to keep producing it.

The short form is acceptable here in Illinois, too. Memo to Nirthers: You issue is a big nothing, GIVE IT UP!

687 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:12:10pm

re: #669 coldwarrior
I don't know about just Geneva Convention. If a superior gives you an order to do something contrary to safety procedures and is endangering the ship or personnel that would be illegal.

688 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:13:11pm

re: #673 jcm
Yep. That's what I meant. The Norks can't shoot straight.

689 Gella  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:13:12pm

re: #682 Dianna

Obama's in office, and I'm not happy.

But this nirth certificate nonsense makes me want to jump up and down on body parts after they've seethed in boiling oil for a while. It's just so stupid!

Obdurate idiocy ought to be properly punished.

ya, i am not happy with Osama either, i mean king Daily got his day in the white house
but, some ppl just plain stupid, about certificate

690 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:13:24pm

re: #663 OldLineTexan

It was a good sized group maybe 20-30. The organizers tried to calm them down but the reporters didn't feel safe enough to stay.

691 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:13:38pm

re: #663 OldLineTexan

Every one of them?

How many?

Shall we lock them all up?

Do we need a bigger jail?

IIRC correctly, there used to be a legislation called "the riot act". If an assembly of people, lawful or not, got too rowdy then a judge would step out with a large cone and read out the act. Then he would step aside and give the crowd a chance to disperse. If they didn't (and they usually wouldn't), it was time for the rubber slugs, water cannon and tear gas.

Until it becomes a riot, I'm not sure what the law is for threatening body language. However if the cops felt they could not protect a man's safety, I'd call that a loss of control, and just cause to whip out the Act.

/but I'm an authoritarian
//well, anti-chaos anyway

692 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:14:13pm

re: #658 Sheepdogess

Snopes has a left leaning bias.

If its a fact it doesn't have a bias.

693 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:14:16pm

re: #612 jcm

EDITORIAL: Pirates of Puntland (WATimes)

The Pirate State has a web site!

Puntland State of Somalia

Can we bomb their asses?

694 Yankee Division Son  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:14:53pm

"No man who ever held the office of president would congratulate a friend on obtaining it."

- John Adams

695 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:01pm

re: #677 pingjockey

Right. The way I read it was every order. You are correct, but if you intend to fight the legality of said order, you better be damn sure it's illegal!

I was technically correct, but it still cost me. The issue was that I'd not slept in 36 hours (watches and work parties), and refused to do (night) flight deck duty (plane captain) because I felt myself unsafe. The "technical legal limit" was 38 hours. Flight deck launch/recovery would have put things at 40 hours.

They could have busted me to E-1, but I was not about to become a liability to my shipmates.

Commander at Captain's mast did the right thing.

696 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:16pm

re: #684 summergurl

It's a good way to clean house...

Then the stalkers pop up and whine that Charles is practicing THOUGHT CONTROL!

/teacher! leave us kids alone

697 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:16pm

re: #550 Killgore Trout
I am going to a Tea Party April 15, Southlake TX. I will let you know if it is an embarrassing, dangerous or kook filled event. I suspect it will be attended by regular people who are unhappy with the level of government spending. My congressman will be there too.

698 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:25pm

re: #690 Killgore Trout

It was a good sized group maybe 20-30. The organizers tried to calm them down but the reporters didn't feel safe enough to stay.

Do they represent the entire disorganized rabble?

Did they commit a crime?

If so, why were they not arrested and charged?

I do not support that kind of behavior in any way.

If I attend a funeral, and so does Fred Phelps, does that make me responsible for what Fred Phelps does at the same funeral?

699 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:28pm

re: #693 Ward Cleaver

Can we bomb their asses?

Not while we have the 0 as President.

700 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:15:30pm

re: #680 albusteve

you are a neophyte...


Thanks.
P.S.
If you're going to post a long winded monologue don't lead with an insult. You wasted your time because I only read the first four words. Save the insult to the end so you trick people into reading it.

701 Gella  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:16:03pm

re: #699 Dark_Falcon

Not while we have the 0 as President.

what about an accident?

702 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:16:12pm

re: #691 Zimriel

I'd call that a loss of control, and just cause to whip out the Act.

(lyrics from a Ted Nugent song)

703 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:16:32pm

re: #693 Ward Cleaver

Can we bomb their asses?

Ward, don't you think you're being too hard on The Beaver the donkeys?

/

704 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:16:35pm

re: #698 OldLineTexan

I don't think anything criminal happened. You can go to redstate and watch the video yourself if you're so interested.

705 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:16:41pm

re: #695 jwb7605
Cool. The damn flight deck is no place to be running around punch drunk with fatigue.

706 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:17:31pm

re: #697 snowcrash

I'm sure you'll have a nice time and won't witness anything you'd object to.

707 dwdw49  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:17:37pm

re: #666 Sharmuta
now we are agreeing on something! he doesn't HAVE TO! but does that really answer the question of why he doesn't? how hard would it be? i'll pay the $30, we will all see it, all questions will be put to rest, i will say you were right, i will admit i am a dunce, and this whole thing will be over.

Whata ya say?

708 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:17:56pm

I'm blocking that awful "stretch marks" ad now. It takes a little while for the block to take effect at google ads.

709 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:17:56pm

re: #705 pingjockey

Cool. The damn flight deck is no place to be running around punch drunk with fatigue.

I probably would have gotten away with no penalty if I hadn't told the LtCdr to go fuck himself. Punch drunk is about right.

710 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:18:07pm

re: #687 pingjockey

I don't know about just Geneva Convention. If a superior gives you an order to do something contrary to safety procedures and is endangering the ship or personnel that would be illegal.

oh, wait...ships...ummm...well, if you as a human willingly go on this vessel without proper artillery and infantry support...do enjoy, or something...i never understood the navy...

711 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:18:20pm

re: #700 Killgore Trout

Thanks.
P.S.
If you're going to post a long winded monologue don't lead with an insult. You wasted your time because I only read the first four words. Save the insult to the end so you trick people into reading it.

chicken shit

712 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:18:45pm

re: #704 Killgore Trout

I don't think anything criminal happened. You can go to redstate and watch the video yourself if you're so interested.

Well, then. Sissy reporters.

713 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:18:46pm

re: #708 Charles

I'm blocking that awful "stretch marks" ad now. It takes a little while for the block to take effect at google ads.

So- no more ann coulter? Oh, wait.

714 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:18:53pm
715 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:19:02pm

re: #698 OldLineTexan

Do they represent the entire disorganized rabble?

Did they commit a crime?

If so, why were they not arrested and charged?

I do not support that kind of behavior in any way.

If I attend a funeral, and so does Fred Phelps, does that make me responsible for what Fred Phelps does at the same funeral?

Nope, but you should make sure he knows he's not welcome.

716 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:19:04pm

re: #708 Charles

I'm blocking that awful "stretch marks" ad now. It takes a little while for the block to take effect at google ads.

That ad was a buzzkill.

717 Steffan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:19:36pm

re: #539 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

In my job, we are all required to wear shirt and tie. I generally go out in jeans and a polo shirt. Today, the muckity mucks were at the office and I had to (sigh) dress appropriately.

Seriously, I have grown so unaccustomed to dress shirts and ties that my neck is raw.

My heart fair bleeds for you.

The last time I had a job with that requirement, I went out and bought the most garish ties I could find. I couldn't find any in day-glo fluorescent, alas. But the ones I did find would make your eyes bleed.

:)

718 jaunte  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:19:49pm

re: #713 Sharmuta

I'm getting a free newt offer. I'll need a terrarium.

719 Sheepdogess  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:19:59pm

re: #692 Mich-again

If its a fact it doesn't have a bias.

Just because someone publishes something on a website doesn't make it a "fact". The New York Times regularly publishes stories that exhibit bias, under the guise of "facts". In my opinion, Snopes does this too, from time to time, on politically oriented issues. And since I just published this, it must be a "fact"! ;-)

720 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:20:01pm

re: #708 Charles

I'm blocking that awful "stretch marks" ad now. It takes a little while for the block to take effect at google ads.

I am late to the party ... what words could have been used to make that ad come up? ... doesn't google ad work by what is on the page ... I know gmail does that and it is freaky what is on the side of the page ... just from the contents of your emails ... I need to get another email but don't know what works as well as gmail ...

721 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:20:05pm

re: #707 dwdw49

Whata ya say?

Watch the birdie!

722 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:20:21pm

re: #710 coldwarrior

oh, wait...ships...ummm...well, if you as a human willingly go on this vessel without proper artillery and infantry support...do enjoy, or something...i never understood the navy...

With respect to the Somali pirate thing:
The most ridiculous drills I ever participated in was "repel boarders". My station was from the flight deck.

723 summergurl  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:20:50pm

re: #519 Cognito

I love it. LOVE it.

I'm dying to hear the full tale.

Someone will make a movie

724 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:20:59pm

re: #710 coldwarrior
Ah, we had proper artillery, 2 5in guns, 40 rounds a minute. 122 SAMs, 4 Vulcan Phalanx 30mm Gatling guns, a 25mm chaingun.

725 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:21:02pm

re: #630 retief_99

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything we are discussing. I really think you ought to re-read the UCMJ, most especially if you are receiving retirement pay.

726 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:21:13pm

re: #715 Dark_Falcon

Nope, but you should make sure he knows he's not welcome.

In context of the discussion, that's nice but not actually germane.

What if it's a big funeral, and I don't see or hear Fred Phelps? Am I still responsible for him? We were at the same funeral after all.

727 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:22:08pm

re: #724 pingjockey
Oh and zero to 35 knots in 3000 feet which is fast for something that weighs 10,000 tons

728 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:22:21pm

re: #650 Killgore Trout

Somebody linked to a video this morning posted at RedState of Tea Party harasing reporters to the point that they ran to the police. They didn't feel the police could protect them so they left. Disgraceful.

Sad. I had some hope for the whole Tea Party thing, but it's been hijacked by the kooks and the cranks. Oh well.

729 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:22:22pm

re: #688 pingjockey cj

Yep. That's what I meant. The Norks can't shoot straight.

My FIL was a snipe, he had a few words about the Capt. penchant for going close ashore to increase their gunneries accuracy.

730 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:22:49pm

re: #713 Sharmuta

So- no more ann coulter? Oh, wait.

If Ann Coulter wants to pay me to criticize her I have no objection to that.

731 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:22:49pm

re: #695 jwb7605

I was technically correct, but it still cost me. The issue was that I'd not slept in 36 hours (watches and work parties), and refused to do (night) flight deck duty (plane captain) because I felt myself unsafe. The "technical legal limit" was 38 hours. Flight deck launch/recovery would have put things at 40 hours.

They could have busted me to E-1, but I was not about to become a liability to my shipmates.

Commander at Captain's mast did the right thing.

navy...


i still dont get it...ummm, war is 24/7...

732 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:23:07pm

re: #690 Killgore Trout

It was a good sized group maybe 20-30. The organizers tried to calm them down but the reporters didn't feel safe enough to stay.

Count on the press to go for the news worthy video, and it won't be with the guy holding the "don't spent our kids money sign" If they find one guy with a monkey doll, or a picture of Obama with Commie written across it, that will lead the news. One neo Nazi smacking a reporter, Pulitzer prize moment.
Look at the coverage of the G 20 protests, we saw the guy breaking the window, and the one with the bloody forehead a dozen times. You'd think London was trashed, when in fact, it was a local protest.

733 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:23:11pm

re: #697 snowcrash

I am going to a Tea Party April 15, Southlake TX. I will let you know if it is an embarrassing, dangerous or kook filled event. I suspect it will be attended by regular people who are unhappy with the level of government spending. My congressman will be there too.

I am going to one here in TN, my congressman also will be there. If the nutcases are leading the parade, I will politely excuse myself and have nothing more to do with it.

734 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:23:22pm

re: #722 jwb7605
Mwahahahahaha!

735 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:23:40pm

re: #464 Charles

Looks like the religious right called in a few markers.

Charles, that's not it.

Speaker Gingrich recently became a Catholic, and I've noted that converts are often most sensitive to anti-Catholic stuff - more than when you grow up with it - people saying "you don't LOOK Catholic," asking if it was true we were hiding guns in the church (seriously), being kept from joining the Y, etc., etc.

Anyway, he was talking about Harry Knox, whom President O appointed to the Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships/

Harry Knox is rabidly anti-Catholic. Mr. Knox is a one-issue guy - gay rights - and he just cannot understand why the Pope is against gay sex, condom use, yada yada. He's called the Knights of Columbus an army of oppression. Speaker Gingrich was talking about this specific issue - that President O appointed a guy who is anti-Catholic to what is supposed to be a cross-religions partnership.

736 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:23:48pm
737 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:24:03pm

re: #726 OldLineTexan

In context of the discussion, that's nice but not actually germane.

What if it's a big funeral, and I don't see or hear Fred Phelps? Am I still responsible for him? We were at the same funeral after all.

I can think of only one funeral at which Fred Phelps would be welcome. Pity it's still on hold. ///

But, seriously, if you don't see him or hear him, nobody expects you to go through the crowd acting as bouncer.

738 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:24:14pm

re: #697 snowcrash

I am going to a Tea Party April 15, Southlake TX. I will let you know if it is an embarrassing, dangerous or kook filled event. I suspect it will be attended by regular people who are unhappy with the level of government spending. My congressman will be there too.

I think it will vary by geographic area. Where's the Southlake party going to be?

739 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:24:44pm

re: #701 Gella

what about an accident?

Absolutely not!

Let's vote him out in four years, and Congress in two!

740 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:24:44pm

I don't see the stretch mark ad. Guess I'm lucky. All I see is Ann, Newt and an ad for shoes and handbags.

741 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:25:08pm

re: #726 OldLineTexan

In context of the discussion, that's nice but not actually germane.

What if it's a big funeral, and I don't see or hear Fred Phelps? Am I still responsible for him? We were at the same funeral after all.

No, you're not.

742 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:25:12pm

re: #730 Charles

If Ann Coulter wants to pay me to criticize her I have no objection to that.

I want to gag when I hear somebody like Mike Gallagher pimping her book. I wish she would just go away.

743 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:25:13pm

re: #707 dwdw49

Sorry- I'll be serious with you for a moment.

Are you interested in stopping the creep of socialism in this country? If so, I must ask why you are wasting time on this superfluous issue. It will not stop the policy of the left. It will not gain us one seat in Congress, or regain us the WH.

Quit wasting my time, and start looking at the real issues, man.

744 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:25:40pm

If any of you all are following the counter tea-party agitprop movement (and you know darned well there will be one) then you know that the demonstrations will be infiltrated by trouble makers with the specific intent of discrediting the entire movement. And by the way, it won't take very many of them to do so.

Standard procedure. Right, Zombie?

745 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:25:51pm

re: #740 Pvt Bin Jammin

I don't see the stretch mark ad. Guess I'm lucky. All I see is Ann, Newt and an ad for shoes and handbags.

I was going to forward it to the wife. She's been complaining about that for 30 years, now.

746 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:25:57pm

re: #730 Charles

If Ann Coulter wants to pay me to criticize her I have no objection to that.

Capitalism is fun.

747 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:26:04pm

re: #731 coldwarrior
Ummm do the troops at the sharp end sleep? A flight deck is 4 acres of contolled mayhem. One wrong step and you're gonna get sucked into a jet intake or chopped up by a prop driven aircraft. You can't do your job in you're to fatigued to arm rockets or bombs, or prep aircraft.

748 dwdw49  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:26:17pm

re: #721 Sharmuta

that's what i thought

749 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:26:18pm
750 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:26:35pm

re: #747 pingjockey

infantry

751 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:26:44pm

re: #745 jwb7605

I was going to forward it to the wife. She's been complaining about that for 30 years, now.

LOL
Send her the shoes and handbag ad too.

752 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:26:51pm

re: #738 Ward Cleaver

I think it will vary by geographic area. Where's the Southlake party going to be?

Did you see the map of all these April 15th tea parties? Someone posted it above, but let me repost: Tx day tea party
On the right, under Latest News, scroll down to the seventh item and click that

753 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:26:56pm

re: #748 dwdw49

You are being punked by the people promoting this nonsense. LET IT GO.

754 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:27:01pm

re: #747 pingjockey

infantry

755 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:27:02pm

re: #731 coldwarrior

navy...

i still dont get it...ummm, war is 24/7...

True, but he judged the risk too high if he did it. It was a judgment call, and he paid for it, but it is defensible.

756 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:27:15pm

re: #707 dwdw49

now we are agreeing on something! he doesn't HAVE TO! but does that really answer the question of why he doesn't? how hard would it be? i'll pay the $30, we will all see it, all questions will be put to rest, i will say you were right, i will admit i am a dunce, and this whole thing will be over.

Whata ya say?

People like you will never, ever, be satisfied.

You've been answered. Frequently. You don't care. You love the thought that there's some dark conspiracy.

"You can be told the truth a thousand times, and it will mean nothing if you do not want to believe it."

Lois McMaster Bujold.

757 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:27:24pm

To stop pirates, do ships need firepower?

Most merchant sailors are not trained to use weapons, but some maritime educators say that is changing.

/well, good luck with the insurance and being allowed into many ports with an armed crew

758 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:27:35pm

re: #747 pingjockey

Ummm do the troops at the sharp end sleep? A flight deck is 4 acres of contolled mayhem. One wrong step and you're gonna get sucked into a jet intake or chopped up by a prop driven aircraft. You can't do your job in you're to fatigued to arm rockets or bombs, or prep aircraft.

marines

759 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:27:37pm

re: #743 Sharmuta

Sorry- I'll be serious with you for a moment.

Are you interested in stopping the creep of socialism in this country? If so, I must ask why you are wasting time on this superfluous issue. It will not stop the policy of the left. It will not gain us one seat in Congress, or regain us the WH.

Quit wasting my time, and start looking at the real issues, man.

The left is doing to the "Tea-Party" movement what Rush Limbaugh did with operation chaos. And the "Tea-Party" leaders admit -- brag -- about support from liberals.

Think about it.

760 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:27:53pm

re: #730 Charles

If Ann Coulter wants to pay me to criticize her I have no objection to that.

Can I get a piece of that? My new glasses set me back a lot of clams, and I'd be happy to criticize someone for say a dollar a word. :D

761 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:09pm

re: #755 Dark_Falcon

True, but he judged the risk too high if he did it. It was a judgment call, and he paid for it, but it is defensible.

yep, it is

762 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:26pm

To say there are hundreds of tea parties planned is...well, right on.

763 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:33pm

re: #737 Alberta Oil Peon

I can think of only one funeral at which Fred Phelps would be welcome. Pity it's still on hold. ///

But, seriously, if you don't see him or hear him, nobody expects you to go through the crowd acting as bouncer.

OK, now replace "funeral" with "Tea Party", "Fred Phelps" with "any other obnoxious asshole" and remember that I'm not a cop.

That's the scenario. I have gotten in some "minor disagreements" at public events (i.e., protests), but I damned sure don't want to see the new county jail.

The Tea Party folks are probably going to continue to be hijacked because it's a FREE COUNTRY, or was this morning, and that means nuts (unfortunately in so many cases) have rights on public property.

If it was a better-organized group, they could criticize the nuts, but only after the tar dries sticking the nuts on their coattails. But I don't see it happening, and in some cases the nuts are organizing the events.

So we had all better stay at home and bitch, I guess.

764 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:28:56pm

re: #707 dwdw49

now we are agreeing on something! he doesn't HAVE TO! but does that really answer the question of why he doesn't? how hard would it be? i'll pay the $30, we will all see it, all questions will be put to rest, i will say you were right, i will admit i am a dunce, and this whole thing will be over.

Whata ya say?

Why would he, it's worth millions in negative PR to keep the pot boiling and make some on the right look silly.

765 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:29:02pm

re: #735 Catttt

Charles, that's not it.

Speaker Gingrich recently became a Catholic, and I've noted that converts are often most sensitive to anti-Catholic stuff - more than when you grow up with it - people saying "you don't LOOK Catholic," asking if it was true we were hiding guns in the church (seriously), being kept from joining the Y, etc., etc.

Anyway, he was talking about Harry Knox, whom President O appointed to the Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships/

Harry Knox is rabidly anti-Catholic. Mr. Knox is a one-issue guy - gay rights - and he just cannot understand why the Pope is against gay sex, condom use, yada yada. He's called the Knights of Columbus an army of oppression. Speaker Gingrich was talking about this specific issue - that President O appointed a guy who is anti-Catholic to what is supposed to be a cross-religions partnership.

That's my take, that Obama wants to sabotage the whole thing. I think Obama would have appointed Anton LaVey, if he were still alive.

766 dwdw49  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:29:11pm

re: #743 Sharmuta

i will be serious. there is a wisdom to the founders that we can't fathom. they put that clause in the constitution for a reason. the stupid, asinine electoral collage saved us from algore. enough said?

767 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:29:12pm

re: #759 jwb7605

The left is doing to the "Tea-Party" movement what Rush Limbaugh did with operation chaos. And the "Tea-Party" leaders admit -- brag -- about support from liberals.

Think about it.

When people say "think about it" to me, I automatically try not to, because I hate it when people add that tag line.

768 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:29:26pm

re: #720 JacksonTn

I am late to the party ... what words could have been used to make that ad come up? ... doesn't google ad work by what is on the page ... I know gmail does that and it is freaky what is on the side of the page ... just from the contents of your emails ... I need to get another email but don't know what works as well as gmail ...

"Birth" did it.

769 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:29:33pm

re: #707 dwdw49

Whata ya say?

/US. passport, Obama has one

770 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:29:44pm

re: #759 jwb7605

I'm not doing the tea party thing, and this thread isn't concerning the tea parties anyways.

I'm spending my time immersed in conservative political theory, so I can be better prepared to deal with the fundamentals. Not this bullshit about certificates and HBO and wardrobes.

771 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:29:49pm

re: #738 Ward Cleaver
Town Square, in the Pavillion. 12:00 noon. Mark Davis and Kenny Marchant will be there.

772 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:30:14pm

re: #758 coldwarrior
Yep. But how many troops do you lose if everyone has been awake for 72 hours plus? I was awake for 96 hours with little catnaps while chasing a russian sub. If we'd had to go to GQ my response time for countering the soviet sub would've been severely compromised. That is all I'm saying.

773 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:30:15pm

re: #761 coldwarrior

yep, it is

May I point out that I had lost a partner at the beginning of the cruise?
I was the "lead", because of the accident.
The guy has half a foot on his right side, now.

774 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:30:20pm

re: #766 dwdw49

Look! Something shiny!

775 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:30:23pm

re: #768 Dianna

"Birth" did it.

Thank you so much ... I have been sitting here (no life) ... wondering what could have caused that ...

776 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:30:35pm

re: #765 Ward Cleaver

That's my take, that Obama wants to sabotage the whole thing. I think Obama would have appointed Anton LaVey, if he were still alive.

Mr. La Vey would have been a better choice. He was much more broad minded (no pun intended) than Mr. Knox. Plus, he was a capitalist, not a zealot.

777 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:30:44pm
778 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:30:52pm

re: #767 Catttt

When people say "think about it" to me, I automatically try not to, because I hate it when people add that tag line.

Sorry. Don't you worry your pretty little head, then.

779 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:31:09pm

re: #707 dwdw49

Stop pestering Sharmuta, or I'll stuff you back down your troll-hole sideways.

780 ArmyWife  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:31:11pm

Look at the time! I lost track in all this fun! I'll see y'all tomorrow. Be good. Or try.

781 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:31:28pm

On chasing away people who don't fit your agenda:

In 2005 I stood on a street corner in Mountain View, CA, counter-protesting the anti-war idiots who infested the main intersection (Castro-El Camino) every Friday evening.

Granted, I wasn't mixing with their group, but I was putting my counter-protest sign in front of people driving by, for them to think about as they approached the other protesters.

I could not have done that, if the other protesters had chased me away. Not that I would have left without a fight. And judging by the reactions of people driving by, I think some of them would have come to my defense. There were a lot more raised thumbs than raised middle fingers.

Fuller story here.

782 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:31:33pm

re: #772 pingjockey

exigencies of the cold war...your opposite did the same

783 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:31:56pm

re: #780 ArmyWife
Awww, that's not fun! Good night.

784 retief_99  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:00pm

re: #643 jwb7605

At times, I have subverted my sense of self preservation to act in a way that I believed was the right thing to do. Fortunately, I have usually been vindicated for my actions, sometimes not. A man/woman must live by some set of principles, sometimes it may cost you dearly, but the only thing that really matters is, if you look in the mirror and you like the person you see looking back, you are doing OK. I salute you for having principles and sticking by them.

785 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:16pm

re: #770 Sharmuta

I'm not doing the tea party thing, and this thread isn't concerning the tea parties anyways.

I'm spending my time immersed in conservative political theory, so I can be better prepared to deal with the fundamentals. Not this bullshit about certificates and HBO and wardrobes.

the wardrobe issue is huge here....I'm almost embarrassed with that one

786 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:22pm

re: #763 OldLineTexan

OK, now replace "funeral" with "Tea Party", "Fred Phelps" with "any other obnoxious asshole" and remember that I'm not a cop.

That's the scenario. I have gotten in some "minor disagreements" at public events (i.e., protests), but I damned sure don't want to see the new county jail.

The Tea Party folks are probably going to continue to be hijacked because it's a FREE COUNTRY, or was this morning, and that means nuts (unfortunately in so many cases) have rights on public property.

If it was a better-organized group, they could criticize the nuts, but only after the tar dries sticking the nuts on their coattails. But I don't see it happening, and in some cases the nuts are organizing the events.

So we had all better stay at home and bitch, I guess.

If I were to participate in a demonstration, I would at least make an effort to scorn, chastise, or shun any individuals whose actions would tend to throw the entire demonstration into disrepute. If it looked like the entire demonstration was going off the deep end, I'd get my a$$ out of there before trouble erupted.

787 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:32pm

By the way, that "shoes and handbags" site (Endless.com) is actually pretty cool. I ordered several things from them before putting that ad up (two pairs of New Balance running shoes and some Croc sandals); their prices are very low, shipping is free, and service is great if you need to return something. It's run by Amazon.com, and they have quality stuff. Everybody needs shoes, and if you buy them by clicking that link it helps keep LGF alive...

788 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:50pm

re: #784 retief_99

Thank you! Salute returned.

789 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:32:52pm

re: #752 Wishing

Did you see the map of all these April 15th tea parties? Someone posted it above, but let me repost: /taxdayteaparty.com/"[Link: taxdayteaparty.com...]>Tx day tea party
On the right, under Latest News, scroll down to the seventh item and click that

Okay, it's where I thought it would be (Southlake Town Center).

790 Scion9  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:33:00pm

re: #99 MJ

Other Cesspool guests:
Prussian Blue - Twin Sisters, singing duo

In case they seemed out of place to anyone; Prussian Blue are actually a 'white nationalist' singing duo. They have been performing since they were pre-teens, indoctrinated by their mother.

Louis Theroux interviewed the family in one of his documentaries (Louis and the Nazis?), but that was five years ago.

791 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:33:06pm

re: #773 jwb7605

then the commander of that boat is at fault...i still dont get you navy guys.

792 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:33:10pm

re: #707 dwdw49
Let me help you out here.
If there were any truth to this crazy issue, some legitimate conservative entity would have seized upon the opportunity to exploit it. Hannity is still babbling about the stupid bow thing. Do you really think he would have passed this up?
Even Glenn Beck is not a Nirther.
Please join us on the sane right side of the road.

793 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:33:24pm

re: #782 coldwarrior
Oh yeah. Now I know why the year I retired(1997) I was the 3rd oldest guy on the ship!

794 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:33:31pm

re: #786 Alberta Oil Peon

Smart, depending on who you are countering, of course.

Goodnight, all.

795 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:33:57pm

re: #778 jwb7605

Sorry. Don't you worry your pretty little head, then.

Don't say that either.

796 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:34:20pm

re: #787 Charles

By the way, that "shoes and handbags" site (Endless.com) is actually pretty cool. I ordered several things from them before putting that ad up (two pairs of New Balance running shoes and some Croc sandals); their prices are very low, shipping is free, and service is great if you need to return something. It's run by Amazon.com, and they have quality stuff. Everybody needs shoes, and if you buy them by clicking that link it helps keep LGF alive...

I was sad to see no hats the other night when I looked, though.

797 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:34:30pm

re: #787 Charles

You wear Crocs?

Isn't that like ... cannibalism?

/

798 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:34:50pm

re: #784 retief_99

How is it brave to support someone who's spouting nonsense? Logical minds want to know.

799 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:34:55pm

re: #787 Charles

By the way, that "shoes and handbags" site (Endless.com) is actually pretty cool. I ordered several things from them before putting that ad up (two pairs of New Balance running shoes and some Croc sandals); their prices are very low, shipping is free, and service is great if you need to return something. It's run by Amazon.com, and they have quality stuff. Everybody needs shoes, and if you buy them by clicking that link it helps keep LGF alive...

As I type this, I'm wearing the "sheepskin lined" Crocs. They're getting old. Next pair will benefit LGF. I live 20 miles from the factory, but Amazon it is, next time.

800 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:35:23pm

re: #787 Charles

By the way, that "shoes and handbags" site (Endless.com) is actually pretty cool. I ordered several things from them before putting that ad up (two pairs of New Balance running shoes and some Croc sandals); their prices are very low, shipping is free, and service is great if you need to return something. It's run by Amazon.com, and they have quality stuff. Everybody needs shoes, and if you buy them by clicking that link it helps keep LGF alive...

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhh - I can't shop this week! /sighhhhhh

And I desperately need shoes.

801 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:35:40pm

re: #791 coldwarrior
I think it's cause the CO is responsible for the ship and everybody in it. Sometimes shit would happen and some CO would get reprimanded and I didn't get it either. Should've asked a JAG officer!

802 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:36:16pm

I do need some rain boots, though....

803 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:36:22pm

re: #787 Charles

By the way, that "shoes and handbags" site (Endless.com) is actually pretty cool. I ordered several things from them before putting that ad up (two pairs of New Balance running shoes and some Croc sandals); their prices are very low, shipping is free, and service is great if you need to return something. It's run by Amazon.com, and they have quality stuff. Everybody needs shoes, and if you buy them by clicking that link it helps keep LGF alive...

Cool. Must go check it out.

804 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:36:26pm

re: #787 Charles

By the way, that "shoes and handbags" site (Endless.com) is actually pretty cool. I ordered several things from them before putting that ad up (two pairs of New Balance running shoes and some Croc sandals); their prices are very low, shipping is free, and service is great if you need to return something. It's run by Amazon.com, and they have quality stuff. Everybody needs shoes, and if you buy them by clicking that link it helps keep LGF alive...

i think that all LGFers should re: #793 pingjockey

wanna share dd214's?

805 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:36:52pm

re: #765 Ward Cleaver

That's my take, that Obama wants to sabotage the whole thing. I think Obama would have appointed Anton LaVey, if he were still alive.

Oh - I have to link this sound bite! [Link: www.danacarvey.net...]

806 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:37:00pm
807 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:37:05pm

re: #787 Charles

By the way, that "shoes and handbags" site (Endless.com) is actually pretty cool. I ordered several things from them before putting that ad up (two pairs of New Balance running shoes and some Croc sandals); their prices are very low, shipping is free, and service is great if you need to return something. It's run by Amazon.com, and they have quality stuff. Everybody needs shoes, and if you buy them by clicking that link it helps keep LGF alive...

You wear Crocs? Only at home, I hope?

There's a boy at my dojang who wears them. I'm sure they're comfy, but, oh, my!

808 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:37:26pm

re: #797 OldLineTexan

now that's funny right there

809 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:37:35pm

waders for walking through the bullshit...that's what I need

810 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:38:11pm

re: #807 Dianna

You wear Crocs? Only at home, I hope?

There's a boy at my dojang who wears them. I'm sure they're comfy, but, oh, my!

Gotta say - Crocs are the most comfortable sandals I've ever owned.

811 yesandno  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:38:27pm

Where oh where did his nirth cert go?
Where oh where can it be?
With its Kenyan stamp as the place of birth
Oh where oh where can it be?

/is this really necessary? If they put half the effort in studying legislation going through Congress, we would have better laws. less government, and less money coming out of our pockets.

812 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:39:05pm

re: #787 Charles

Could you bring back the Seven Windows ads?

813 Macker  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:39:16pm

re: #810 Charles

Gotta say - Crocs are the most comfortable sandals I've ever owned.

They look so plastic. Are they?

814 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:39:18pm

re: #804 coldwarrior
Sure and lets get Jon Halp uz Kary while we're at it!

815 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:39:52pm

re: #810 Charles

Gotta say - Crocs are the most comfortable sandals I've ever owned.

I wear Eccos. I love them. I actually ambushed my mom with a pair.

They're not quite as ugly.

816 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:39:54pm

re: #810 Charles

Gotta say - Crocs are the most comfortable sandals I've ever owned.

they are...mine are an outrageous bright orange...have to wear Ray Bans

817 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:40:34pm

Amazon remembers what I shop for and puts those products in their ad here.

The last time I noticed them, the ad was for Fancy Feast. Seriously.

818 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:40:42pm

Good night Gracie, and all lizards!

819 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:40:51pm

re: #810 Charles

Gotta say - Crocs are the most comfortable sandals I've ever owned.

Can you wear them with gaiters, or does that set up a conflict?

820 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:40:59pm

re: #816 albusteve

they are...mine are an outrageous bright orange...have to wear Ray Bans

The kid wears hot pinks. I shudder every time I see them.

821 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:41:29pm

re: #819 Alberta Oil Peon

Can you wear them with gaiters, or does that set up a conflict?

AOP ... good one ... made me laugh ...

822 dwdw49  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:41:48pm

re: #792 VioletTiger

look, i've already admitted i'm an ass, fool, dolt, idiot...obviously not sane.
but the insanity i suffer from wakes me up at night, eats at me, causes my hair to fall out, etc. etc. this stupid question of why? why? why? can't we, the employers, see the documents of the employee? could you answer this for me and let me sleep?

823 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:41:55pm
824 avanti  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:42:00pm

re: #790 Scion9

In case they seemed out of place to anyone; Prussian Blue are actually a 'white nationalist' singing duo. They have been performing since they were pre-teens, indoctrinated by their mother.

Louis Theroux interviewed the family in one of his documentaries (Louis and the Nazis?), but that was five years ago.

How cute, two little blond neo Nazi's, their parents must be proud. /

Prussian Blue picture.

825 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:42:09pm

re: #820 Dianna

The kid wears hot pinks. I shudder every time I see them.

ha!...stylin!...mine are ridiculous really, I won't do those again

826 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:42:10pm

re: #814 pingjockey

Sure and lets get Jon Halp uz Kary while we're at it!

he served in vietnam!

827 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:42:17pm

re: #797 OldLineTexan

You wear Crocs?

Isn't that like ... cannibalism?

/

Nope, crocs aren't lizards. It would be like hairless primates wearing cattle leather. Different subclasses of their respective biological class on Amniota.

828 Steffan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:43:00pm

re: #622 Dianna

As someone who has dealt with birth certificates in an official capacity for the last 14 years -- I work for Social Security -- this is what is required in a short-form certificate:

Baby's name
Birthdate
Father's name
Mother's maiden name
Birthplace (city and state)
Seal and address of the issuing authority.

What is included in the long-form certificate depends on the issuing agency. It may or may not include the name of the hospital, the name of the attending physician, the time of the birth, and the race and religion of the parents and child (newer forms tend to omit this last).

In either case, certificates are printed on safety paper with special features to deter counterfeiters. This may or may not include special inks, holograms (Montana has an especially cool hologram), raised seals, and features that can only be seen under blacklight. Which features are included are up to the issuing authority and the features referred to are need-to-know items.

If, for instance, you know someone who has a green card (I-551), get yourself a magnifying glass or a microscope and take a look at the back of the card. What you find might be (ahem) illuminating.

:)

829 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:43:22pm

re: #810 Charles

Gotta say - Crocs are the most comfortable sandals I've ever owned.

Just stay off escalators, or not, if you like to sue

/how the mighty have fallen, I made a lot of money trading CROX between $80 and $100 less than two years ago

830 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:43:22pm

re: #822 dwdw49

look, i've already admitted i'm an ass, fool, dolt, idiot...obviously not sane.
but the insanity i suffer from wakes me up at night, eats at me, causes my hair to fall out, etc. etc. this stupid question of why? why? why? can't we, the employers, see the documents of the employee? could you answer this for me and let me sleep?

take some drugs and put on a Stones record...works every time

831 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:43:33pm

re: #815 Dianna

I wear Eccos. I love them. I actually ambushed my mom with a pair.

They're not quite as ugly.

I wear Adio skate shoes. I wore them to work for years, until my latest boss noticed them and busted me. Dammit.

832 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:43:38pm
833 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:43:56pm

re: #822 dwdw49

look, i've already admitted i'm an ass, fool, dolt, idiot...obviously not sane.
but the insanity i suffer from wakes me up at night, eats at me, causes my hair to fall out, etc. etc. this stupid question of why? why? why? can't we, the employers, see the documents of the employee? could you answer this for me and let me sleep?

You've been answered.

You know what this means? You're an obdurate idiot, invincibly ignorant, and deliberately obtuse.

834 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:43:59pm

re: #811 yesandno

/is this really necessary? If they put half the effort in studying legislation going through Congress, we would have better laws. less government, and less money coming out of our pockets.

But that requires work, and reading and it's teh hard.

835 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:16pm

re: #832 taxfreekiller

ya,

change the subject

good night

Don't like shoe blog?

836 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:20pm

re: #832 taxfreekiller

out.

tfk

837 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:22pm

re: #830 albusteve

take some drugs and put on a Stones record...works every time

Ewwww, yuck! How about some Moody Blues instead?

838 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:30pm

re: #823 taxfreekiller

try this

[Link: www.firstgov.com...]

Call "your Congressman and Senators" ask them if they are going to
a
[Link: www.taxdayteaparty.com...]

some are, some are not and for higher taxes reasons.........

I'm not going to the one in Chicago. Any rally that embraces Alan Keynes is liable to be a gathering of crazies. I don't need any more nuttiness in my life.

839 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:44:47pm

re: #822 dwdw49

look, i've already admitted i'm an ass, fool, dolt, idiot...obviously not sane.

Glenn? Is that you?

840 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:45:11pm

re: #810 Charles

Gotta say - Crocs are the most comfortable sandals I've ever owned.

When you "wear out a pair" they make wonderful wading shoes, if you like to fish streams and lakes. If you lose one, they float!

841 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:45:34pm

re: #837 victor_yugo

hmmm...

842 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:45:42pm

re: #828 Steffan

Thanks. I've seen both my long and short form.

The biggest difference between the two (California, early/mid sixties)?

My little footprint.

843 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:46:08pm

re: #837 victor_yugo

Ewwww, yuck! How about some Moody Blues instead?

no...but there are some connections there...the Stones and Beatles both admired the Moody's and went to their shows...feel better?

844 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:46:25pm

re: #831 Catttt

I wear Adio skate shoes. I wore them to work for years, until my latest boss noticed them and busted me. Dammit.

What did he bust you for? How are your shoes relevant?

845 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:46:35pm

re: #839 Charles

Glenn? Is that you?

good one...

846 Zimriel  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:47:12pm

re: #822 dwdw49

look, i've already admitted i'm an ass, fool, dolt, idiot...obviously not sane.
but the insanity i suffer from wakes me up at night, eats at me, causes my hair to fall out, etc. etc. this stupid question of why? why? why? can't we, the employers, see the documents of the employee? could you answer this for me and let me sleep?

Do you read Sutter Cane?

847 Steffan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:47:17pm

re: #715 Dark_Falcon

For me, making sure that Fred Phelps isn't welcome involves a shotgun loaded with rock salt.

He might survive it, but he will not be comfortable sitting down in the immediate future.

For that, I might be willing to indulge in a maskirovka: I'd wear a brown shirt and a hakenkreutz armband. Let 'em blame the Nazis for it.

848 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:47:32pm

re: #822 dwdw49

look, i've already admitted i'm an ass, fool, dolt, idiot...obviously not sane.
but the insanity i suffer from wakes me up at night, eats at me, causes my hair to fall out, etc. etc. this stupid question of why? why? why? can't we, the employers, see the documents of the employee? could you answer this for me and let me sleep?

We already did. This is a non-issue. If you are going to lose sleep, lose it over something real. Or better yet, start planning how you will help get better candidates elected. We've got a Governor to replace here in Jersey. What's coming up in your backyard? Trust me, focusing on what you can influence is a much better use of your time.

849 axegrinder  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:47:50pm

re: #831 Catttt

I didn't see the wheels on the bottom.

850 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:47:55pm

re: #837 victor_yugo

Ewwww, yuck! How about some Moody Blues instead?

Here you go:

851 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:48:03pm

re: #810 Charles

Gotta say - Crocs are the most comfortable sandals I've ever owned.

I think we can be open minded about your Crocs as long as you swear you do not stick those "decorative" buttons in the holes.

852 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:48:12pm

re: #708 Charles

I'm blocking that awful "stretch marks" ad now. It takes a little while for the block to take effect at google ads.

You are a good man, Charles.

853 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:48:44pm

re: #849 axegrinder

I didn't see the wheels on the bottom.

Neither did I - man, I'm beat.

854 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:48:46pm

re: #848 VioletTiger

We already did. This is a non-issue. If you are going to lose sleep, lose it over something real. Or better yet, start planning how you will help get better candidates elected. We've got a Governor to replace here in Jersey. What's coming up in your backyard? Trust me, focusing on what you can influence is a much better use of your time.

his hair falls out?....oh please

855 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:48:51pm

One post only.

I finally got to walk my State Capitol today.

Here is a picture of one of the domes from inside.
Image: rotunda.jpg

Totally unreal. They do not construct buildings like this anymore.

856 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:49:20pm

re: #844 Dianna

gimme my danner mountain lights or my nike trail runners

857 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:49:22pm

re: #822 dwdw49

You know what keeps me awake at night? The socialism. The foreign policy. The utter incompetency. And how best to combat the underlying ideology that breeds this.

You're concern for this issue is so off the mark of what matters, you're not even hitting the target. You're hitting your foot.

858 axegrinder  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:49:27pm

re: #837 victor_yugo

Ewwww, yuck! How about some Moody Blues instead?

Nah, try Sepulcher. They'll give you pleasant dreams...

859 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:49:27pm

I need to medicate my favorite, but less intelligent cat, and sign out.
Not in that order, though.
Good evening, all!

860 Sheepdogess  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:49:31pm

re: #743 Sharmuta

OK Sharm, you win. So what can we do to help stop the creep of socialism? My vote doesn't count. Look what happened in MN. We sit here week after week preaching to the choir, typing millions of words, and what do we change? Nothing. We are all conservatives and don't have to agree on everything. Unlike liberals, who tolerate all beliefs and opinions except those with which he disagree, we are supposed to be better than that. We bicker and get mean. DIVIDE AND CONQUER? Your Karma is somewhere around 70,000 and you have been here a couple of years. So, please advise us. What should we do?

861 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:49:43pm

re: #831 Catttt

I wear Adio skate shoes. I wore them to work for years, until my latest boss noticed them and busted me. Dammit.

Busted you for what?

862 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:49:58pm

re: #856 coldwarrior

gimme my danner mountain lights or my nike trail runners

Sounds good to me. Just don't ask me to pay for them - I'm broke because I like Eccos.

863 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:50:15pm

Never mind, I saw your answer!

864 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:50:17pm

re: #855 formercorpsman

One post only.

I finally got to walk my State Capitol today.

Here is a picture of one of the domes from inside.
[Link: www.legis.state.pa.us...]

Totally unreal. They do not construct buildings like this anymore.

nice...most people never even know what they are missing...thanks for that cool pick

865 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:50:23pm

re: #860 Sheepdogess

Clearly- you should continue ranting about the long form.

866 jwb7605  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:50:29pm

re: #851 Bobblehead

I think we can be open minded about your Crocs as long as you swear you do not stick those "decorative" buttons in the holes.

Including the ones you get from your grandkids ... the "Goofy" and "Mickey Mouse" ones?

867 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:50:32pm

One of the earliest Moody Blues songs I remember ...

868 Gella  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:50:53pm

re: #862 Dianna

Sounds good to me. Just don't ask me to pay for them - I'm broke because I like Eccos.

do they make them with high heels?

869 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:51:02pm

re: #849 axegrinder

I didn't see the wheels on the bottom.

The skaters at the Royal Farms parking lot thought I was cool - I'm down with Bam, doncha know. :D

870 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:51:14pm

re: #865 Sharmuta

Um...ow?

871 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:51:44pm

Wow, it turns out that one of the guys on the Maersk Alabama is from around here. He graduated from Plano East Senior High (Lance Armstrong's alma mater), and went to Texas A&M Galveston.

The local news interviewed his uncle that lives in Richardson (he's an Aggie, too). He's taking care of the guy's antique cars. Wish I had that name now. The news is replayed at 11 on one of the independent stations, so I'll record it.

872 Yankee Division Son  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:52:02pm

I have a worrisome thought for all the Nirth Certifikit folks out there. Let's suppose, for the sake of argument, Obama wasn't born in the US. Suppose this is then exposed and he's forced to 'abdicate', as it were..

Do you realize who would then become President? Yikes!

873 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:52:28pm

re: #868 Gella

do they make them with high heels?

Wedges, and I saw a rather charming pair of pumps in the window of the store on Post. The heels aren't terribly high, just enough to emphasize your calf. And my ankles need all the help they can get.

874 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:52:28pm

re: #855 formercorpsman

The artwork was phenomenal as well.

Image: 57998929_ad6583f33a.jpg

875 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:52:46pm

re: #867 JacksonTn

One of the earliest Moody Blues songs I remember ...


[Video]

how awful...they became famous when the discovered the mellotron in 67/68

876 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:52:51pm

re: #862 Dianna

Sounds good to me. Just don't ask me to pay for them - I'm broke because I like Eccos.

danner mountain lights are the finest boots made by man period,end of statement

877 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:53:31pm

re: #875 albusteve

how awful...they became famous when the discovered the mellotron in 67/68

Hey ... I didn't way it was great ... just the earliest I remembered ...

878 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:53:38pm

re: #839 Charles

Glenn? Is that you?

LOL!

I can't believe that Hugh Hewitt will have that clown on his show. Oy.

879 Gella  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:53:57pm

re: #873 Dianna

Wedges, and I saw a rather charming pair of pumps in the window of the store on Post. The heels aren't terribly high, just enough to emphasize your calf. And my ankles need all the help they can get.

i just cant wear flats

880 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:53:58pm

re: #876 coldwarrior

danner mountain lights are the finest boots made by man period,end of statement

Are you trying to make me sad? I haven't bought a new pair of boots in years. My last set is still (sort of) wearable.

881 sngnsgt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:54:06pm

A lesson in physics and the cost, time and trouble of making a commercial ! !
If you thought that the people who set up a room full of dominos to have them knocked over later was amazing, you haven't seen anything yet.

There are no computer graphics or digital tricks in these images. Everything that you see happened in real time exactly as you see it.

The recording required 606 takes and in the first 605 takes there always was something, usually of minor importance, that didn't work. It was necessary for the recording team to install the set-up time after time and it took several weeks working day and night to achieve this effect.

The recording cost 6 million dollars and it took 3 months to finish, including the engineering design of the sequence.

The duration of the video is only 2 minutes, but every time that Honda shows the commercial on British television, they make enough money to support any of us for the rest of our lives. However, this commercial has turned out to be the most displayed in the history of the Internet.

Honda execs think that it will pay for itself simply because of the free showings. When Honda senior execs viewed it, they immediately approved it without hesitation -- including costs.

Everything you see in the sequence (besides the walls, floor, ramp and untouched Honda Accord) is part of two automobiles. The voice is that of Garrison Keiller. The commercial was so well received by Honda execs when they saw it, that their first comment was how amazing the computer graphics were. They almost fell out of their chairs when told that the recording was real without any graphics manipulation.

By the way, about the wind shield wipers in the new Honda Accords, they are sensitive to water and designed to start working as soon as they get wet.

882 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:54:08pm

re: #877 JacksonTn

Hey ... I didn't way it was great ... just the earliest I remembered ...

just tellin ya...I'll shut up

883 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:54:15pm

re: #864 albusteve

I know I said one post.

I'm telling you, it was incredible. Truly awesome.

So much metaphorical expression in the art.

884 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:54:16pm

re: #872 Yankee Division Son

I have a worrisome thought for all the Nirth Certifikit folks out there. Let's suppose, for the sake of argument, Obama wasn't born in the US. Suppose this is then exposed and he's forced to 'abdicate', as it were..

Do you realize who would then become President? Yikes!

David Horowitz has said he'd rather POTUS be a corrupt Chicago politician than an out-and-out socialist.

885 VioletTiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:54:22pm

G'night all!

886 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:54:46pm

re: #882 albusteve

just tellin ya...I'll shut up

No ... you have the best taste in music ... you my favorite on music threads ...

887 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:54:54pm

re: #879 Gella

i just cant wear flats

I can't wear heels (also known as "hells") very often any more.

888 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:55:00pm

re: #849 axegrinder

I didn't see the wheels on the bottom.

You're thinking Heelys

/another shoe company getting sued within an inch of it's life

889 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:55:15pm

re: #884 victor_yugo

David Horowitz has said he'd rather POTUS be a corrupt Chicago politician than an out-and-out socialist.

Well, unfortunately BHO is both.

890 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:55:23pm

re: #883 formercorpsman

I know I said one post.

I'm telling you, it was incredible. Truly awesome.

So much metaphorical expression in the art.

indeed, so where is this?....not fair to post these pics without some background :)

891 Gella  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:55:42pm

re: #887 Dianna

I can't wear heels (also known as "hells") very often any more.

i even have UGGs on platform, they are very comfy and warm

892 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:56:52pm

re: #880 Dianna

get a pair...break em in, they last forever.

trust me...

893 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:56:59pm

re: #888 Killian Bundy

You're thinking Heelys

/another shoe company getting sued within an inch of it's life

I sometimes think that was predictable. Oh, hey, let's put little wheels in kids' shoes. What could possibly go wrong?

894 JacksonTn  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:57:22pm

Good Night Ya'll ... work tomorrow ... cannot wait to see what tomorrow brings ...

895 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:57:41pm

re: #881 sngnsgt

A lesson in physics and the cost, time and trouble of making a commercial ! !
If you thought that the people who set up a room full of dominos to have them knocked over later was amazing, you haven't seen anything yet.

There are no computer graphics or digital tricks in these images. Everything that you see happened in real time exactly as you see it.

If that's the video I think it is (sorry, not enough bandwidth for video here), there is a smidge of CGI, as the muffler is rolling across the floor. They didn't have enough space to do the whole thing, so they split it into two parts, and the rolling muffler is how they joined the two parts together.

Only a small cheat, and not at all detracting from the incredible end product.

896 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:57:41pm

re: #886 JacksonTn

No ... you have the best taste in music ... you my favorite on music threads ...

you like women singers?...hot tip...Nadirah Shakoor's latest record....wow!

897 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:57:50pm

In other news, Navy SEAL hero Marcus Luttrell chased three assholes that killed his dog in Huntsville through three counties. They were arrested.

898 Steffan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:57:51pm

re: #612 jcm

EDITORIAL: Pirates of Puntland (WATimes)

The Pirate State has a web site!

Puntland State of Somalia

Should we be concerned that their symbol is the Bonnie Blue Flag?

We are a band of brothers,
And native to our soil,
Fighting for our liberty,
With treasure, blood, and toil....

899 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:58:07pm

re: #890 albusteve

Harrisburg. Pennsylvania.

I really need to do the extended tour next time.

I will say, even in the court rooms, there was quite a bit of religious references either in the paintings, or the sculptures.

Not trying to divert the conversation, but an interesting side note considering the conversations recently.

900 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:58:10pm

re: #892 coldwarrior

get a pair...break em in, they last forever.

trust me...

Well...I guess I could make a case that my old boots' soles are worn down on the heel, and pulling away from the uppers....

901 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:58:44pm

Good evening y'all - what all are we chatting about tonight?

902 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:59:02pm

Good night all.

903 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 8:59:31pm

re: #901 realwest

Good evening y'all - what all are we chatting about tonight?

Shoes, believe it or not. And the guys are making recommendations!

904 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:00:09pm

re: #898 Steffan

Should we be concerned that their symbol is the Bonnie Blue Flag?

We are a band of brothers,
And native to our soil,
Fighting for our liberty,
With treasure, blood, and toil....

They couldn't field an army worth of the US Army, the South could.

905 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:00:21pm

re: #897 Ward Cleaver

In other news, Navy SEAL hero Marcus Luttrell chased three assholes that killed his dog in Huntsville through three counties. They were arrested.

Bastards! Luttrell is one helluva guy!

906 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:00:31pm

re: #897 Ward Cleaver

In other news, Navy SEAL hero Marcus Luttrell chased three assholes that killed his dog in Huntsville through three counties. They were arrested.

Don't screw with a SEAL.

907 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:00:34pm

re: #899 formercorpsman

Harrisburg. Pennsylvania.

I really need to do the extended tour next time.

I will say, even in the court rooms, there was quite a bit of religious references either in the paintings, or the sculptures.

Not trying to divert the conversation, but an interesting side note considering the conversations recently.

Penn, an old rich state....I walked into the KY state capital one time on a lark and was utterly floored at the style and quality of the place...btw I love Harrisburg, very nice town

908 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:00:38pm

re: #881 sngnsgt

Help me understand here. I'm supposed to go to Youtube, and waste 2 minutes of my life voluntarily watching a Honda commercial? I mean, sooner or later, I will get to involuntarily watch it while I'm wasting my time watching something like one of the final Stanley Cup series games.

909 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:00:50pm

re: #900 Dianna

Well...I guess I could make a case that my old boots' soles are worn down on the heel, and pulling away from the uppers....

these danners are on their third sole. i have had these since '89 and they are my only winter boot.

910 wee fury  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:00:52pm

Column 9 of the 1930 Federal Census asks: Radio set
Will the 2010 Census ask: Flat Screen TV

911 Sheepdogess  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:01:03pm

re: #865 Sharmuta

Is that your final answer?

912 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:01:20pm

re: #901 realwest

Good evening y'all - what all are we chatting about tonight?

Crocs

913 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:02:18pm

re: #907 albusteve

It was cool. Very cool to see how much the feel of the building really attempts to hone in on the whole concept of what went on just 2 hours east, just over 200 years ago.

914 Randall Gross  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:02:28pm

re: #630 retief_99

Hey then, here's your chance to put actions behind your words.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that your direct commanding officer is a US citizen. Next order you get march into his office, demand to see his birth certificate before you follow it and see how fast you end up in the f'in brig.

915 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:02:34pm
916 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:03:00pm

re: #907 albusteve

Penn, an old rich state....I walked into the KY state capital one time on a lark and was utterly floored at the style and quality of the place...btw I love Harrisburg, very nice town

i re: #912 Bobblehead

Crocs

boots

917 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:03:03pm

re: #909 coldwarrior

these danners are on their third sole. i have had these since '89 and they are my only winter boot.

I'll check them out. I can probably justify a new pair of boots for next winter.

918 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:03:08pm

re: #908 Alberta Oil Peon

Help me understand here. I'm supposed to go to Youtube, and waste 2 minutes of my life voluntarily watching a Honda commercial? I mean, sooner or later, I will get to involuntarily watch it while I'm wasting my time watching something like one of the final Stanley Cup series games.

football season is right around the corner....hang tight amigo

919 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:03:15pm

Oh yeah, if you need non-specialty athletic shoes, New Balance is definitely the way to go.

/they're expensive, but they fit and the damn things just refuse to wear out

920 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:03:16pm

re: #881 sngnsgt

It's funny, but I recognize just about every part in that ad. That Accord is the European Accord, by the way not the same one sold here. Here it's sold as the Acura TSX.

921 mikeymom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:03:22pm

OT--but prayes and good thought requested--hubby had a kidney stone blasted today-- came home pain free-but now is in pain as he passes the pieces--vicodin is not touching his pain-- every hour or so-- he is in agony--gonna be a long night-- lizard prayers are powerful--thanks--

922 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:03:58pm

re: #898 Steffan
No we shouldn't be concerned. And y'all don't mind I'm gonna take some liberties with your quote as for the Pirates:

We are a band of brothers,
And native to our soil,
Fighting for our deaths liberty,
ForWith treasure, blood, and stupidity toil...."
I know it doesn't sorta "ring out at ya" but with Obama, I suspect that my revision won't recieve any real life symbolism!

923 sngnsgt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:04:00pm

re: #895 victor_yugo

I just received that in an e-mail and thought it was cool. I was one of those geeks who likes to do stuff like that with dominos.

924 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:04:38pm

re: #911 Sheepdogess

Is that your final answer?

I've spoken for months now on more involvement. I've recommended books. I can't make you take it seriously. But the real question is- what do you think you can do to stop the left? I can't answer it for you. You have to actually think about it and find the answer for yourself. If you really think the answer is to whine on LGF about a long form, then so be it.

925 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:04:42pm

re: #905 Wishing

Bastards! Luttrell is one helluva guy!

And it was a yellow Lab. That really pisses me off.

HUNTSVILLE, Texas – A soldier honored for surviving the worst single-day loss of life in Navy SEAL history chased three men through three counties after suspecting they killed his dog.

A Texas Department of Public Safety spokeswoman says Marcus Luttrell was involved in the high speed chase in the early morning of April 1 after finding his yellow Labrador shot outside his Huntsville home. Onalaska Police Department stopped the suspects.

Luttrell was awarded the Navy Cross for combat heroism in 2006. He is the lone SEAL team member to survive a June 2005 firefight with the Taliban in Afghanistan.

The Walker County Sheriff's Department investigated the death of Luttrell's dog, Dasy. They charged Michael John Edmonds II, 21, and Alfonzo Hernandez, 24, with cruelty to a non-livestock animal. The driver of the vehicle was cited for not having a license.

926 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:05:07pm

re: #921 mikeymom

OT--but prayes and good thought requested--hubby had a kidney stone blasted today-- came home pain free-but now is in pain as he passes the pieces--vicodin is not touching his pain-- every hour or so-- he is in agony--gonna be a long night-- lizard prayers are powerful--thanks--

My sympathies. My husband went through the same thing. Amazing something so tiny can cause so much pain.

927 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:05:40pm
928 Wishing  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:06:11pm

Sleep well Lizards!

929 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:06:24pm

re: #925 Ward Cleaver

And it was a yellow Lab. That really pisses me off

/it was a therapy dog, the dog's name was an acronym of the names of his fallen comrades

930 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:06:25pm

re: #913 formercorpsman

It was cool. Very cool to see how much the feel of the building really attempts to hone in on the whole concept of what went on just 2 hours east, just over 200 years ago.

I love stuff like that...in the basement of the beautiful Supreme Court building in DC is a museum showing how the place was built from the ground up....the last of the great neo classical govt buildings...awsome story

931 Dianna  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:06:37pm

I'm out - take care!

932 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:06:40pm

re: #906 Dark_Falcon

Don't screw with a SEAL.

Especially one who has stared Death in the eye.

933 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:07:25pm

re: #931 Dianna

I'm out - take care!

Sweet dreams.

934 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:07:37pm

re: #929 Killian Bundy

/it was a therapy dog, the dog's name was an acronym of the names of his fallen comrades

No wonder he took off after them. They're lucky the cops got them first.

935 mikeymom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:08:04pm

re: #926 Bobblehead

My sympathies. My husband went through the same thing. Amazing something so tiny can cause so much pain.

did his taly whacker fall off? j/k--why can women pass a baby through their parts and a male cant pass a tiny pebble thru their penis?

936 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:08:29pm

Anyone here ever install Linux onto a CF card? Trying to create a diskless workstation for the family room and I am almost there ... Just can't seem to get the Ubuntu installer to recognize the CF card as a disk even tho the bios does.

937 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:08:42pm

re: #903 Dianna

Shoes, believe it or not. And the guys are making recommendations!

what! we arent allowed!

938 axegrinder  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:08:45pm

If it's the same guy, I think I heard him on the radio talking with Glen Beck and telling his story a couple of years ago. Before Beck went all TV.

939 Randall Gross  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:08:50pm

re: #921 mikeymom

OT--but prayes and good thought requested--hubby had a kidney stone blasted today-- came home pain free-but now is in pain as he passes the pieces--vicodin is not touching his pain-- every hour or so-- he is in agony--gonna be a long night-- lizard prayers are powerful--thanks--

Drinking a lot of Cranberry juice might help reduce the shards faster.

940 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:09:10pm

re: #935 mikeymom

did his taly whacker fall off? j/k--why can women pass a baby through their parts and a male cant pass a tiny pebble thru their penis?

wait til you have a kidney stone to pass...we'll see how tough you are then!

941 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:09:41pm

re: #930 albusteve

One last post. This was hanging in the Supreme Court there.

Image: divinelawlg.jpg

Virginia Oakley.

942 jcm  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:10:15pm

re: #932 victor_yugo

Especially one who has stared Death in the eye.

Movie is supposed to be out this year.

943 albusteve  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:10:37pm

re: #941 formercorpsman

One last post. This was hanging in the Supreme Court there.

[Link: cpc.state.pa.us...]

Virginia Oakley.

whoa...took me a second to see the face...very cool

944 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:10:46pm

re: #915 taxfreekiller
Hey TFK! From your link

Some White House officials said that immigration would not take precedence over the health care and energy proposals that Mr. Obama has identified as priorities. But the timetable is consistent with pledges Mr. Obama made to Hispanic groups in last year’s campaign.

if it helps you any at all (and it didn't help me much I have to admitt) think of this as not "policy" just political payback for the huge Hispanic vote that went for Obama in '08. Sorta like the bailout of the Big 2 (Ford still hasn't asked for any money that I'm aware of) to benefit the UAW.
And of course the GOP is going to fight this - but won't be smart enough to fight it by talking about illegal's jumping the line of those who tried to enter legally, nor by pointing out that there are already TOO many Americans who would now take the jobs the illegal immigrants undocumented workers used to do. It's a win-win for Obama no matter which way it goes.

945 kywrite  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:10:55pm

God, god, god. ALL birth certificates in HI are labeled "certificate of live birth", including that of my daughter's which I went down and got just a few weeks ago. If the online certificate is fake, it's good enough that it can't be proven fake. And at this point, if he were proven ineligible beyond a shadow of doubt, it would just put Biden in as president, and result in a huge mishmash of horrible complications to boot. Do we really want that?

This is so over. Can't we move on to the bowing or something? Oh, or better, real issues, like our children's stolen futures? Let's drop it and work toward electing decent people in 2010.

947 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:11:21pm

The officer on the Maersk Alabama that's from Plano is named Colin Wright, age 42. He's one of the guys who helped retake the ship. Wright lives in Galveston, and has a ranch in Lamar County (Northeast Texas, where Paris is located). His uncle in Richardson is taking care of his four classic cars, including a 1968 Cadillac Fleetwood.

948 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:11:51pm

re: #921 mikeymom
Prayers for your hubby's pain relief are going up now.

949 axegrinder  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:11:51pm

re: #941 formercorpsman

Are those angels? Isn't that some kind of violation of church and state? Somebody call 911!

950 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:11:57pm

re: #945 kywrite

God, god, god. ALL birth certificates in HI are labeled "certificate of live birth", including that of my daughter's which I went down and got just a few weeks ago. If the online certificate is fake, it's good enough that it can't be proven fake. And at this point, if he were proven ineligible beyond a shadow of doubt, it would just put Biden in as president, and result in a huge mishmash of horrible complications to boot. Do we really want that?

This is so over. Can't we move on to the bowing or something? Oh, or better, real issues, like our children's stolen futures? Let's drop it and work toward electing decent people in 2010.

straight up...

951 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:12:08pm

re: #943 albusteve

It also spells the word Love, LAW, & Wisdom.

952 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:12:42pm

re: #945 kywrite

God, god, god. ALL birth certificates in HI are labeled "certificate of live birth", including that of my daughter's which I went down and got just a few weeks ago. If the online certificate is fake, it's good enough that it can't be proven fake. And at this point, if he were proven ineligible beyond a shadow of doubt, it would just put Biden in as president, and result in a huge mishmash of horrible complications to boot. Do we really want that?

This is so over. Can't we move on to the bowing or something? Oh, or better, real issues, like our children's stolen futures? Let's drop it and work toward electing decent people in 2010.

Your daughter is ineligible to be POTUS. Sorry.

/

953 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:12:45pm

re: #935 mikeymom

did his taly whacker fall off? j/k--why can women pass a baby through their parts and a male cant pass a tiny pebble thru their penis?

re: #935 mikeymom

did his taly whacker fall off? j/k--why can women pass a baby through their parts and a male cant pass a tiny pebble thru their penis?

Well, the tube the stone fragments are passing through is very tiny itself. My husband is very stoic when it comes to pain but that kidney stone turned him into a weeping baby.

954 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:13:08pm

re: #936 karmic_inquisitor

Anyone here ever install Linux onto a CF card? Trying to create a diskless workstation for the family room and I am almost there ... Just can't seem to get the Ubuntu installer to recognize the CF card as a disk even tho the bios does.

Got it on an SD in my Eee PC 900. Actually, for convenience, I doubled down w/ an extra 4G SD in the removable slot.

If you can get the system to recognize the CF, and you can boot from it, I suggest a quick install of Knoppix, to see what the device name is, and what drivers it needs. You may need to create a custom init RAM disk for Ubuntu, to load the necessary drivers for CF access.

955 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:13:19pm

Good night guys.

956 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:13:33pm

Zimriel- I just wanted to say thank you for the support. Don't think I haven't noticed, and that it's not appreciated. It is. {Zim}

957 dwdw49  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:14:02pm

to all i have had the privalege of communicating with tonight, and i mean that, i am rather amazed at the resistance to simply ask for something we all should have a right to see. what's the big deal. show it and all this nonsense is over. don't show it and the questions continue. i'm not making a pre-judgement (he is ineligible)...you are (he is eligible).

truth is truth, and any question of the truth should be answered. is he, or isn't he? screaming that the answers have already been given when documents, which should be public are withheld, does not get to any truth. i mean, for christ's sake, if he released the COLB, and it is real, why can't he release the long form? it should be a no brainer.

i for one, hope he is eligible and that i am wrong. but everyone telling me that i am wrong, foolish, an asshat, paranoid etc.etc. isn't going to cut it.
wheres the beef?

958 [deleted]  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:14:13pm
959 mikeymom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:14:19pm

re: #940 albusteve

wait til you have a kidney stone to pass...we'll see how tough you are then!

oh yeah big guy? i birthed 2 babes--1 wa s9lb 8 onces- gallbladder- disc surgery- worst was a pilonital cyst on tailbone-- lol--kidney stones? pphhaatt

960 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:16:02pm

re: #946 Ojoe
Beautiful Ojoe - good night and sleep well.

961 mikeymom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:16:15pm

re: #948 realwest

Prayers for your hubby's pain relief are going up now.

thx real--you are one of the first on praylist too, ya know!

962 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:16:26pm

re: #957 dwdw49

In nutshell: you are a day late, and a dollar short. Quit fighting yesterday's battles.

963 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:16:54pm

re: #861 Wishing

Busted you for what?

For wearing skate shoes. Not business casual. My boss is half my age and very straight-laced - no pun intended. For example, he freaked out when I took the Metro to a Marilyn Manson concert in the city. (great concert)

It's ok - he was right - skate shoes aren't business casual. I just always push the envelope.

965 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:18:26pm

re: #947 Ward Cleaver
Hey Ward - do you know if the Ship's Master is still be held hostage or whether they got him freed - maybe offer some of the pirates they overwhelmed in exchange for the Master?

966 Steffan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:18:27pm

re: #881 sngnsgt

Cowabunga, Buffalo Bob.

:)

967 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:18:28pm

re: #957 dwdw49

ummm...old guy here...

go away

968 Sheepdogess  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:19:05pm

re: #865 Sharmuta

re: #924 Sharmuta

I've spoken for months now on more involvement. I've recommended books. I can't make you take it seriously. But the real question is- what do you think you can do to stop the left? I can't answer it for you. You have to actually think about it and find the answer for yourself. If you really think the answer is to whine on LGF about a long form, then so be it.


I take this headlong rush toward socialism as seriously as a heart attack, so drop that nonsense. I simply asked you a question, and was looking for an answer, not blow-back. And I don't spend time whining about the long form - I just find it a curious sideshow, and don't understand why the guy just doesn't spend the $25 to put the whole thing to bed, while at the same time (apparently) spending hundreds of thousands of dollars defending against it. That's all. Frankly, at this point, I'm not sure the constitutional crisis this could spawn is worth it.

So, I'll rephrase the question to make it simpler: What specific involvement do you advocate? I'm currently involved in local conservative politics, read extensively, donate plenty of $$ to conservative causes, and spend most of my time raising two kids.

So what more do you think I could be doing?

969 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:19:52pm

re: #964 victor_yugo

Bill Whittle's hilarious essay on kidney stones

Been there, done that, and lost the t-shirt...:( Kidney Stones are not fun...:P

970 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:20:13pm

re: #929 Killian Bundy

/it was a therapy dog, the dog's name was an acronym of the names of his fallen comrades

OMG. That really was cruel. Assholes.

971 Steffan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:21:10pm

re: #839 Charles

*snrrrrrrrrrk*

Heh.

972 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:21:28pm

re: #969 Dustyvet

Been there, done that, and lost the t-shirt...:( Kidney Stones are not fun...:P

A friend of mine who passed one said it was like pulling a piece of barbed wire out through your d-ck.

973 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:22:16pm

re: #972 Ward Cleaver

A friend of mine who passed one said it was like pulling a piece of barbed wire out through your d-ck.

errrrrrrrr, yup...:P

974 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:22:20pm

re: #970 Ward Cleaver

OMG. That really was cruel. Assholes.

And they pretty much negated the benefit of another therapy dog.

975 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:22:47pm

re: #965 realwest

Hey Ward - do you know if the Ship's Master is still be held hostage or whether they got him freed - maybe offer some of the pirates they overwhelmed in exchange for the Master?

AFAIK, he's still in the 28-foot lifeboat, and now there's a standoff with the Navy. I hope they whack those fuckers.

976 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:24:26pm

re: #969 Dustyvet

dusty vet

i haven't seen that patch in a long time...

can i assume you have it for combat.

977 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:25:16pm

Hey Night Lizards! This is a drive-by post to give the weather report (coldish & clear) for Near Iowa and to wish you-all weet dreams tonite.

See you on the morrow.

978 Bobblehead  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:25:26pm

re: #972 Ward Cleaver

A friend of mine who passed one said it was like pulling a piece of barbed wire out through your d-ck.


Surprisingly similar to how my husband described it.

979 Steffan  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:25:43pm

re: #857 Sharmuta

James Taranto says it's Bush 3rd Term. Everything else I've seen says it's Carter 3rd Term.

Enquiring Minds Want To Know!

980 Catttt  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:26:09pm

re: #844 Dianna

What did he bust you for? How are your shoes relevant?

Woops - sorry - missed your question. They are not "business casual" - no sports shoes.

981 mikeymom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:26:18pm

re: #964 victor_yugo
thanks so much for that! yes--mu husband was ""mewling""! it was soooo pathetic--thank the gods, he is now resting easy-- i will save that to show him-- thx again!

982 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:26:36pm

re: #979 Steffan

James Taranto says it's Bush 3rd Term. Everything else I've seen says it's Carter 3rd Term.

Enquiring Minds Want To Know!

When was Carter's second term?

983 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:26:39pm

re: #929 Killian Bundy
Hey Killian - sorry to be so late, but who killed what therapy dog and when?

984 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:27:31pm

re: #981 mikeymom

thanks so much for that! yes--mu husband was ""mewling""! it was soooo pathetic--thank the gods, he is now resting easy-- i will save that to show him-- thx again!

When I got to the part about the unicorns, I was laughing so hard couldn't read.

985 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:28:08pm

re: #983 realwest

Story in #925 above.

986 Guanxi88  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:28:18pm

re: #975 Ward Cleaver

AFAIK, he's still in the 28-foot lifeboat, and now there's a standoff with the Navy. I hope they whack those fuckers.

I've said before, I'll say again:

1) Q-Ships and armed merchantment;
2) If I were underwriting cargo line policies, I'd offer a very nice discount for lines who adopted these recommendations, or who hired officers from the US Navy and/or the US Marines (eh, I'd allow Brits and Aussies, probably IDF, too) to assist the ship's Master with certain navigational hazards;

3) Why the hell aren't we sinking these "motherships" and shelling any and every port to which they flee, from which they depart, or from which they receive any supply?

987 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:29:33pm

re: #986 Guanxi88

3) Why the hell aren't we sinking these "motherships" and shelling any and every port to which they flee, from which they depart, or from which they receive any supply?

"MotherSHIPS"?

988 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:29:56pm

re: #975 Ward Cleaver
Well I'm with you on the Navy whacking those guys, though I don't hold out a lot of hope for that, given who our CiC is, but I'm just confused about the whole situation - is the master in a life boat being towed by the pirates, the ship or is the lifeboat still on the ship and in any event, why doesn't the crew that recaptured the ship just tell the pirates we'll kill everyone of you that we captured if you don't free the master?!

989 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:31:22pm

<
re: #987 victor_yugo

"MotherSHIPS"?

pfunk :)

990 mikeymom  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:31:29pm

well--goodnight all--he is moaning again--gotta go do my florence nightengale thing again--thx all--keep mikedad in your thoughts--bless all you lizards--night!

991 Guanxi88  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:32:03pm

re: #987 victor_yugo

"MotherSHIPS"?

Yes, that's the euphemism the MSM uses to describe the larger ships used by these guys to send out their smaller motor launches and raiding craft.

To those Somali bandits out there (everybody reads LGF!), I hope the USN and/or our allies join the civilized world in saying a hearty "Ship you, you goat-shippinh ship-faces!" If it can be done with naval gunfire, so much the better.

992 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:34:05pm

re: #976 coldwarrior

dusty vet

i haven't seen that patch in a long time...

can i assume you have it for combat.

Yes, 1st BN 11th Artillery 9th Infantry Division
C Battery, Headquarters and Headquarters Battery

Vietnam 1967-68
Bearcat Base

Dongtam Base

Mekong River Delta

Thanks for asking, and welcome home brother...

993 Sheepdogess  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:34:16pm

re: #981 mikeymom

thanks so much for that! yes--mu husband was ""mewling""! it was soooo pathetic--thank the gods, he is now resting easy-- i will save that to show him-- thx again!

As close as they will ever get to labor pains.

994 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:34:56pm

re: #954 victor_yugo

Got it on an SD in my Eee PC 900. Actually, for convenience, I doubled down w/ an extra 4G SD in the removable slot.

If you can get the system to recognize the CF, and you can boot from it, I suggest a quick install of Knoppix, to see what the device name is, and what drivers it needs. You may need to create a custom init RAM disk for Ubuntu, to load the necessary drivers for CF access.

Thanks!

I have been trying to install from USB to CF. The bios lets be set the boot order and recognizes the CF as a disk. No disk or DVD drive in the case - just the MB, CF card, memory and the fan.

And my USB "stick" is actually a USB dongle to my BlackBerry which has a 4GB SD card in it (like yours). So I am building a do it yourself green computer - won't pull many amps at all.

Have not tried knoppix and not familiar with it, though I keep running across the name. A different build of Linux? Should I put that on the USB drive?

995 realwest  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:35:01pm

re: #985 victor_yugo Thank you for that. I think they should given all three of them - at one time - five minutes in a locked, closed room and no window with that SEAL hero.

996 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:35:37pm

re: #993 Sheepdogess

As close as they will ever get to labor pains.

Only thing that hurt worse was appendix attack...:P

997 Sheepdogess  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:36:41pm

re: #996 Dustyvet

I have heard that.

998 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:40:27pm

re: #954 victor_yugo

Just read through the knoppix site. Looks like I have gone about reinventing the wheel.

Hope it runs on an atom processor.

999 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:44:34pm

re: #996 Dustyvet

Appendix. When mine had ruptured, they gave morphine in the ER. I love it now, when the dentist asks about my "level of pain"! 0 is always the response. I pray that nothing will ever hurt like the appendix, again.

1000 coldwarrior  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 9:45:22pm

re: #992 Dustyvet

Yes, 1st BN 11th Artillery 9th Infantry Division
C Battery, Headquarters and Headquarters Battery

Vietnam 1967-68
Bearcat Base

Dongtam Base

Mekong River Delta

Thanks for asking, and welcome home brother...

dad was macv, some of my best nco's were 9id. you guys were some of the best.

1001 Dave AAA  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 10:05:51pm

re: #982 victor_yugo

When was Carter's second term?

It ran concurrently with his first term. I mean 1976 to 1980 sure felt eight hears long to me.

1002 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Apr 8, 2009 11:34:34pm

The nirth herder is a mow-bee. Bet on it.

1003 coquimbojoe  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 1:09:12am

corsi is a troofer....

1004 freetoken  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 1:36:03am

WND is still at it... 12 hours after the hospital story in the keypost, Unruh posts yet another article on WND: Doubt about Obama eligibility spreads

The concern over President Obama's eligibility to be president under the U.S. Constitution's demand that the office be occupied by a "natural born" citizen is spreading, with additional writers conceding questions remain about the dispute.

"Yes, there were ambiguities about Obama's birth certificate that have never been satisfactorily resolved. And the embargo on Obama's educational records remains troubling," wrote Camille Paglia, a progressive author and columnist at Salon.com [...]

This can go on as long as the question of whether there were two or just one one shooters on the grassy knoll...

1005 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 2:20:13am

"Questions remain."

"Doubts were cast."

"There are ambiguities."

What a crock. Here's how it works, morons: produce some actual, tangible, solid evidence that Obama is not a native-born citizen, and then there will be something to talk about.

Making baseless assertions, then demanding that the target of your attacks prove you wrong, is a classic example of a demand for negative proof, a logical impossibility rejected by scholars for a couple thousand years now and which is certainly not admissible in a court of law. It's a favorite resort of all sorts of conspiracy loons: instead of offering actual evidence for the existence of Nessie, Bigfoot or flying saucers, they simply assume that these exist and demand of their opponents, "Well, prove me wrong, then!" They are well aware that this demands that the entire Universe be drained of every scrap of information before the request can be satisfied, that they can continue questioning evidence and pointing out that the evidence presented does not negate their baseless claims, because it never, ever can.

In short: put up, or shut up. Provide positive proof that Obama was born in another country to back up your claims - hospital records, a foreign birth certificate, anything - and perhaps people who don't drag their knuckles on the ground when they walk will start taking you seriously. Or, more likely, will begin questioning your evidence. But that's the way the game is played. The rules you want to play by are the same rules used to shore up claims of leprechauns and chupacabra.

It's interesting to note that this is exactly the same tactic being employed by promoters of "intelligent design," and is every bit as faulty and flawed in that case, as it is in every case where it is used. It is the tactic of the desperate and pathetic, of those who have no real argument or support but who simply insist on bleating anyway.

1006 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 2:37:36am

"an investigator even cast doubt"

Ah, well then that's different. "Doubt" has been "cast" by an "investigator"!

Sounds pretty conclusive to me. Obama wasn't born in Hawawii, he was created in a top secret Chinese biotech laboratory. "Official sources" told me "off the record".

1007 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 5:17:04am

There will always be freaks at the margins. to this day many on the left (thanks mostly to Oliver Stone) still beleive the conspiracy theories surrounding JKF's assassination. The band members of REM think the moon landing was faked. Not excusing this - but I suspect the "nirthers" will continue to be unpersuaded by anything but an actual certificate of live birth.
...and even then...

1008 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 6:29:06am
1009 Pupdawg  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 6:54:58am

'I don't own the cothes I'm wearing,
and the road goes on forever.
I got one more silver dollar.
But I'm not gonna let 'em catch me no,
not gonna let 'em catch the midnight rider'...

Inspector Cluseau could easily solve this one if the great and powerful Oz would just peel back the curtain, open the books, unseal the sealed and yes, the truth will set you free. Even if the initial cost sounds too high take comfort in the fact the truth always sounds better.

1010 avspatti  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 6:55:35am

re: #1008 stashiu

Prez. Hussein is hiding something, otherwise all of those records would not be 'sealed'. Precisely what he is hiding is speculation. Could be simply that he is a bastard. Of course, politically, he already qualifies.
Let the charade continue.

Forget the birth certificate issue. My theory on this is either he is so arrogant that he believes no one has the right to question him, OR his grades/attendance at his various places of higher learning were abysmal! He is spending a lot of $$$$ on lawyers to keep these records sealed. Could it be that he was a C- student?

1011 monkey den  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 7:04:03am

curse you lolcats!

1012 avspatti  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 7:11:05am

1010 continued . . . Maybe he plagiarized. Who knows? As an educator, I am much more interested in his education records. It is just strange that he is so secretive imo. He just probably never went to class or did much work. NONE of what I have posted in these two posts has anything to do with eligibility or birth certificates. Down ding me if you must, but I have said nothing weird.

1013 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:11:11am

re: #968 Sheepdogess

Since you're so insistent that I give you my opinion on what you should do, I'll give it to you. I think you, personally, should spend more time reflecting upon the Constitution and the meaning of liberty; and having read some of your previous comments on other topics, I likewise suggest you quit alienating political allies such as single parents and those daring enough to demand the right to do what they want in their own home regardless of your moral indignation.

1014 razorbacker  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:12:20am

re: #993 Sheepdogess

As close as they will ever get to labor pains.

Absolutely true.

Few babies, however, come sliding out covered in spines like a cockleburr. They seldom cut their way out.

Those kidney stones do.

1015 AZDave  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:23:37pm

Maybe the schmuck is just illegitimate and ashamed of that.

1016 Hawaii69  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 3:21:48pm

re: #209 hazzyday

where the nirthers go wrong. from WND


Some discrimination against single moms going on there in those rules. Single mom not having the same rights as a married person. Anyone giving birth before age 21 is a second class citizen if they spent one year overseas and their SO left them.

This claim:

"if only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of the birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16."

leaves out something pretty significant. This rule only applies if the child was born outside of the U.S.

If the child was born in the U.S., it doesn't matter how
old the mother is, or what nationality the father is. If she's a citizen, the child is a citizen.

It's amazing how many times I saw this "law" bounced around the interent by people who swallowed it whole without looking into it. I doubt that the original ommission, of the child having to be foreign born for this
to apply, was an accident. It just took off a "fact" from
there on in.

1017 RomanceWritR  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:07:01pm

I know that LGF likes to be derisive about the Birth Certificate issue. But can someone give me one good reason why Obama has spent so much money on lawyers trying to keep us from seeing it?

1018 RomanceWritR  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:10:16pm

If Obama was adopted by his Indonesian "father" his Birth Certificate would be re-issued to show the adoptive father as the birth father so that the adopted child would not know. If that is the case his name could be Barry Soetoro, or he could now be listed as a Muslim or who knows what else.

Why the secrecy?

1019 kywrite  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:11:43pm

re: #952 karmic_inquisitor

Your daughter is ineligible to be POTUS. Sorry.

/

Heh, that's okay. I'm raising her to be the Benign Dictator of the World. So far, she's conquered both sides of the family, and she's making serious headway on the Old Lady Vote.

1020 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:11:50pm

Wow. Where are you people coming from?

1021 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:13:14pm

This one's also a creationist.

1022 SpaceJesus  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:18:34pm

re: #1017 RomanceWritR

I know that LGF likes to be derisive about the Birth Certificate issue. But can someone give me one good reason why Obama has spent so much money on lawyers trying to keep us from seeing it?

lol get out

1023 dapperdave  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:31:28pm

re: #1018 RomanceWritR

Do you really believe that stuff?

1024 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:37:37pm

RomanceWritR, how do we know it's really you? Please post your birth certificate, Social Security Number, current driver's licence, passport, and medical records in a link from your profile.

/dude, give it a rest

1025 Catttt  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:46:00pm

re: #1015 AZDave

Maybe the schmuck is just illegitimate and ashamed of that.

That's just silly - this is not the 19th century. Even if he were not legitimately born (like me, btw), it would hardly be his fault. Plus, have some respect for the office of President.

1026 Catttt  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:49:40pm

re: #1018 RomanceWritR

If Obama was adopted by his Indonesian "father" his Birth Certificate would be re-issued to show the adoptive father as the birth father so that the adopted child would not know. If that is the case his name could be Barry Soetoro, or he could now be listed as a Muslim or who knows what else.

Why the secrecy?

If wishes were horses, rides would be free. If I were the queen, I'd be rich. If Mr. Spock were my father, I'd have pointy ears.

Quit spinning conspiracy theories - it is a waste of time.

1027 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:20:02pm

re: #1017 RomanceWritR

Misdirection and distraction are the likeliest reasons. As long as the issue is taken up by people that would be finding other, possibly damaging issues, to champion, they won't be digging for those other issues. That's basically what Charles has said all along. It's a distraction issue that takes resources away from meaningful issues. I also don't think it is costing him anything. All he has to do is refuse the release and that costs nothing.

That is why you will always be dinged down for bringing this up here.

1028 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:47:29pm

"RomanceWritR" just dropped a couple of turds and vanished into the night.

1029 Hawaii69  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 12:01:14am

re: #1017 RomanceWritR


He hasn't spent a dime hiding his Birth Certificate. Anyone can request a Certified Copy of the record of his birth (the "fake" one that was
previously released, if they can show a tangible reason for requesting that copy.

The public has no "right" to see the original.

[Link: hawaii.gov...]

1030 Salamantis  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:05:08am

re: #957 dwdw49

to all i have had the privalege of communicating with tonight, and i mean that, i am rather amazed at the resistance to simply ask for something we all should have a right to see. what's the big deal. show it and all this nonsense is over. don't show it and the questions continue. i'm not making a pre-judgement (he is ineligible)...you are (he is eligible).

truth is truth, and any question of the truth should be answered. is he, or isn't he? screaming that the answers have already been given when documents, which should be public are withheld, does not get to any truth. i mean, for christ's sake, if he released the COLB, and it is real, why can't he release the long form? it should be a no brainer.

i for one, hope he is eligible and that i am wrong. but everyone telling me that i am wrong, foolish, an asshat, paranoid etc.etc. isn't going to cut it.
wheres the beef?

There's no falsifying religious dogma. If Obama flew to Hawaii tomorrow, had the state hand him all their records of his live birth in Honolulu Hospital on file, and he waved them all in front of live TV cameras, and allowed reporters to Xerox them at will, the vast majority of the Nirthers would say:

But is that his REAL real birth certificate and associated paraphenalia, or did he take all this time to have flawless forgeries made and to secure the silence of all folks in a position to know? Besides, I wasn't there to see it, and perform carbon-14 tests, and check the typeface font!

It's conspiracy theory mythology now. Like the Grassy Knoll and the Moonscape Set and the Stolen Election and the Inside Job, it'll never ever end.

1031 Lee Coller  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 9:11:30am

Sorry to post on a dead thread, but ...

Can't you Nirther's at least come up with some new questions that haven't already been asked and answered a zillion times on other LGF nirther threads? This is getting boring.


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