Bristol’s Ex: Sarah Lied

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Uh oh.

The young man who impregnated Sarah Palin’s daughter said yesterday that the former GOP vice-presidential candidate is a liar and that she stopped being nice to him after her defeat in November.

Levi Johnston, 19, stood by his claim that he lived with his former girlfriend, Bristol Palin, under her famously conservative mother’s roof. The Palin family has denied it.

Asked on CBS’s “The Early Show” if the family was lying about him, Johnston said, “Yeah.”

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547 comments
1 Adrenalyn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:12:09am

doubtful

2 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:12:10am

I find this completely classless on his part. He's no gentleman.

3 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:12:12am

Hey Putz, your lucky she didn't cut your schlong off and feed it to the moose.

4 MPH  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:12:14am

Sarah lied. King crabs died.

5 MJ  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:12:33am

If this schmuck impregnated my daughter, I don't think I'd be a nice as the Palin's have been to him.

He's an opportunist of the worst kind.

6 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:12:51am

Peripheral issues and madness.

7 Adrenalyn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:13:00am

and again, this coming from CBS

"The Rahtergate Network"


um hum

8 JohnnyReb  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:13:37am

Well face it, he needs to keep making crap up and getting paid by the MSM. He does have 18 years of child support ahead of him.

9 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:13:41am

Maybe he can be sued for child support for all the pay for the talk shows he's been on.
Take ALL of it, and let him pay the taxes out of some other job.

10 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:13:44am

It's difficult to express in words how unimportant I think this story is.

11 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:13:49am

Cash in on your fame now, pretty boy. Not many decent ladies will want you after this.

12 MJ  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:14:08am

Just what is this guy doing financially to support his kid?

13 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:14:13am

What a shmuck. A dishonorable little turd, good riddance.

14 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:14:18am

re: #8 JohnnyReb

Well face it, he needs to keep making crap up and getting paid by the MSM. He does have 18 years of child support ahead of him.

Two words: "Book Deal".

15 Adrenalyn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:14:21am

when are Republicans going to learn that CBS means them harm ?

no way are they EVER going to be fair, let alone nice
to a Republican

a thousand downdings for any Republican going on that network

16 turn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:14:28am

re: #10 Occasional Reader

It's difficult to express in words how unimportant I think this story is.

.

17 wahabicorridor  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:14:29am

This guy, his drug dealing mother, and his big-mouth sister need to go away. No class. I don't care if he's telling the truth. A gentleman does not do this.

18 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:14:44am

Who the fuck cares? There's important stories to cover, yet this gets played on the television.

19 Sponge  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:14:54am

I think he's found his claim to the proverbial '15 minutes of fame' and he's going to milk it for all its worth. Where I think every politician has something in the closet, the Palin family has threatened the left and they are like a cornered Cobra and are spewing and spraying in every direction possible.

20 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:15:02am

Levi's 15 minutes of fame are used up in 5... 4... 3...

He should now seriously consider moving out of Alaska and keeping a low profile. There are probably plenty of Palin supporters who would like to "thank" him for his recent media tour.

21 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:15:04am

Meltdown thread.
Uh oh.

22 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:15:05am

re: #18 Mr. In get Mr. Out

Who the fuck cares? There's important stories to cover, yet this gets played on the television.

Watch the birdie!

23 calvin coolidge  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:15:13am

Levi also announced that he is seeking to be the Democrat candidate for Governor of Alaska. Let the mudslinging begin.

24 Adrenalyn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:15:13am

re: #11 Sharmuta

Cash in on your fame now, pretty boy. Not many decent ladies will want you after this.

paging Paris Hilton !

25 WindHorse  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:15:20am

I heard a rumor that Vanilla Ice is going to help write his biography....

26 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:15:27am

He should hook up with Octo-Mom. Be a hit reality series.

27 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:15:45am

re: #14 CIA Reject

Two words: "Book Deal".

Or "Ass Hole"
Or "Jerk Off"
Or "Douche Bag"

28 turn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:15:58am

re: #19 Sponge

I think he's found his claim to the proverbial '15 minutes of fame' and he's going to milk it for all its worth. Where I think every politician has something in the closet, the Palin family has threatened the left and they are like a cornered Cobra and are spewing and spraying in every direction possible.

I agree, and the media is going to be all over him just like they were on mama moonbat.

29 Kragar  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:15:59am

Wow, look at that over there!

Now talk about this while we pass a few more bills in Congress to make your life better.

30 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:16:02am

I don't care... Of course, it feeds into the media's obsession with destroying a successful American governors life and political future...

31 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:16:07am

re: #5 MJ

If this schmuck impregnated my daughter, I don't think I'd be a nice as the Palin's have been to him.

He's an opportunist of the worst kind.

I've gotta agree; had it been my child, it would be a simple dialogue, roughly as follows:

Me: "Hey, would you put that shovel in the trunk there, for me?"

Him: "Sure. Should I just put it by the gas can or the spare tire?"

Me: "Gas can is fine. Okay, boy, climb in. We're taking a drive. Yes, in the trunk."

32 kansas  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:16:33am

If he had something good to say, he wouldn't get two seconds.

33 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:16:38am

One of the first clues a woman has about how a potential mate rates is how he treats his ex.

Mr. Johnston is pulling an epic fail.

34 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:16:40am

This, in my opinion, should be a private family matter.

35 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:16:59am

re: #24 Adrenalyn

paging Paris Hilton !

Oh, Lord! She would date him too. UGH!

36 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:17:01am
37 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:17:15am

Since I believe he's over the age of 18, and he has managed to reproduce, I think it might be a good time for Levi to start thinking and acting like an adult.

38 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:17:36am

re: #23 calvin coolidge

Levi also announced that he is seeking to be the Democrat candidate for Governor of Alaska. Let the mudslinging begin.

So he can screw Alaska and then abandon it the way he did Bristol?

39 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:17:39am

re: #34 Ford_Prefect

This, in my opinion, should be a private family matter.

That's right. People disappear up in Alaska all the time?

40 JohnnyReb  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:17:47am

re: #14 CIA Reject

Two words: "Book Deal".

I am sure he already has a nice lawyer looking at offers he has received for his kiss and tell book about the Palin family and their private life. He stands to make a ton of money out of this. Problem is for him, the more he makes, the more the court is gonna take for child support. If he was half way smart he would keep his mouth shut.

41 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:17:48am

re: #27 VegasRick

Or "Ass Hole"
Or "Jerk Off"
Or "Douche Bag"

All of the above. With a book deal.

42 Lightspeed  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:17:56am

Does anyone do any actual reporting any more? Shouldn't this be pretty easy to corroborate/debunk? Talk to his parents, the neighbors, schoolmates. Otherwise, don't print this garbage.

43 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:18:01am

I am sure Trig is behind all this.

/L-cubed conspiracy

44 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:18:15am

re: #36 Sponge

Going a little far with the 'demon seed' comment.

45 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:19:00am

re: #44 Ford_Prefect

Going a little far with the 'demon seed' comment.

Agreed.

46 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:19:06am

I feel really sorry for this baby for getting such a craptacular father.

47 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:19:08am

...

48 vapig  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:19:40am

re: #9 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe he can be sued for child support for all the pay for the talk shows he's been on.
Take ALL of it, and let him pay the taxes out of some other job.

That is a GREAT idea!

49 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:19:49am

The gloves are off and the tradition of leaving the kids out of it when it comes to politics doesn't apply to conservative anti-establishment candidates.

And don't buy the excuse that they showed the kids off during the campaign so they are fair game. Democrat kiddies have been used as campaign PR from the Kennedy's to Amy Carter to the Obama girls.

Unfortunately the real victim here is Bristol. She now has to live with the circus following her and her child looking to find more things to smear Governor, Mom, Grandma Palin with.

The media whores are below contempt.

50 Earick  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:19:50am

Damn! That boy better think twice about going moose hunting!

He might live after knocking up my daughter! But not for walking out on her and then complaining that he is the wronged party!

Just another young dirt bag that hasn't any sense of decency or responsibilities.

51 saberry0530  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:20:04am

Is he getting paid scale for this?

52 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:20:12am

For once, I'd just like to see some integrity and ethics in the media. Personal issue stories may get ratings, but they remain unimportant and pretty useless to having a better life.

53 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:20:37am

Shame on him. He deserves to be shunned and nothing more.

54 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:20:50am

re: #34 Ford_Prefect

This, in my opinion, should be a private family matter.

I really don't care about this story either but I think a lot of people are interested because she's an advocate for celibacy public policy instead of sex ed and contraception but she doesn't practice it in her private life. People get exited over perceived hypocrisy. I haven't been following the story because I already don't care for Palin so it doesn't effect me either way.

55 Da Coyote  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:20:58am

This kid almost makes me support abortion. Who'd want his genes carried on? He should marry Megan McCain. Two of a kind.

56 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:21:25am

Bristol Palin appears to be the proverbial "good thing". This clown has messed that up. He is going to look at Bristol in 20 years, look at his then current SO (probably an ugly lowlife of limited intelligence) and think, "Man, did I ever screw up!"

57 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:21:50am

It's like the trailer park is being paraded on national television.

58 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:21:57am

re: #39 Nevergiveup

That's right. People disappear up in Alaska all the time?


"Went down in a helecopter targeted by vengeful Moose..."

59 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:21:57am

re: #40 JohnnyReb

I am sure he already has a nice lawyer looking at offers he has received for his kiss and tell book about the Palin family and their private life. He stands to make a ton of money out of this. Problem is for him, the more he makes, the more the court is gonna take for child support. If he was half way smart he would keep his mouth shut.

I wonder if he had already concluded a child support agreement prior to the book deal?

60 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:21:57am

Who knows? Who cares?

Not me.

61 Adrenalyn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:22:20am

re: #55 Da Coyote

This kid almost makes me support abortion. Who'd want his genes carried on? He should marry Megan McCain. Two of a kind.

no no no
he should marry Al Gore Jr. in Vermont

62 kansas  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:22:32am

re: #36 Sponge

Not mentioning the fact that, as a father, he has rights, so if things are so bad and he wants to be such a big part of his demon seed's upbringing, why doesn't he get a lawyer and get legal rights to the child? I mean, seriously.

He should shut his fucking mouth about his child, and if I were the child's grandfather he wouldn't be able to talk through the pain.

63 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:22:33am

Who's trashing whom, again?

No, I'm sorry. This is just a nasty young man.

64 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:22:37am

re: #54 Killgore Trout

She has nothing to do with what her adult daughter does... That's what bothers me... My fiancees parents are against birth control but both of their daughters uses it... They are adults and on their own...

65 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:22:43am

re: #46 Sharmuta

I feel really sorry for this baby for getting such a craptacular father sperm donor.

FIFY

66 Edouard  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:22:49am

It's a Jerry Springer world, I guess...

67 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:23:22am

Wow! Gettin' nasty in here already.

68 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:23:29am

re: #59 CIA Reject

I wonder if he had already concluded a child support agreement prior to the book deal?

Given the way child support works? It won't make the slightest difference.

69 Anna D  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:23:34am

He has turned out to be a pathetic little boy, when he should be a man. Pity. I agree with #56.

70 opnion  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:23:46am

I saw an interview with this kid. He struck me as a hustler.
It seems to me that he & his family are trying to cash in & bashing Sarah Plaikl has become a national pass time on some of the talk shows.

71 jwb7605  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:24:31am

Having problems in the family is probably something most of us have gone through.

What the "truth" of the matter is frequently borders on determining which religion is more valid.

This whole issue sickens me, and I apologize to the world for the "Americans" that think it important to keep the issue public.

72 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:24:35am

This is no different than what happens in a lot of families, when teenage hormones meet teenage poor judgement. The difference is that the tabloid media is willing to pay this little shit to go on national television to talk trash about decent people who tried to do the right thing.

73 JohnnyReb  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:24:36am

re: #59 CIA Reject

I wonder if he had already concluded a child support agreement prior to the book deal?

Not to sure about the laws in Alaska, but I know that my baby brother found out that if you come into some money, the child support people are all over you and they will get their increased payments from you in Ohio.

74 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:24:40am

re: #66 Edouard

It's a Jerry Springer world, I guess...

"All the world's a stage sideshow and all the people merely players freaks."

/Shakespeare updated ...

75 MarkX  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:24:45am

re: #37 Pullus Iulius

Since I believe he's over the age of 18, and he has managed to reproduce, I think it might be a good time for Levi to start thinking and acting like an adult.

You're sooooooo old-fashioned.

/s

76 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:24:47am

Who gives a crap what that self proclaimed Redneck and his criminal family have to say about anything. What Bristol saw in him is beyond me.

77 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:25:03am

re: #54 Killgore Trout

I really don't care about this story either but I think a lot of people are interested because she's an advocate for celibacy public policy instead of sex ed and contraception but she doesn't practice it in her private life. People get exited over perceived hypocrisy. I haven't been following the story because I already don't care for Palin so it doesn't effect me either way.

One can be an advocate for teen celibacy, while also having a teen who does things differently than what the parent might view as best.

I mean, we all know at least one teen, do we not, at least one, who thinks their parents are complete idiots and know nothing?
/ I would say most teens fall into that category for a few years.

78 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:25:37am

Cad.

79 MarkX  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:25:58am

re: #57 Mr. In get Mr. Out

It's like the trailer park is being paraded on national television.


Ah... back to the Clinton days.

80 redmonkey  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:26:00am

Low life is low life.

81 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:26:30am

re: #77 reine.de.tout

I didn't think my folks were idiots, precisely. But I did think that they were off their rockers.

82 brent  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:26:58am

...didn't slick Willie put this all to rest when it was decided that personal issues like this should not be public matters?

Oh yeah, and that kid seems like a real class act - after his 15 min are up, I predict he's not exactly destined for greatness and deep thoughts.

83 MarkX  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:26:59am

re: #66 Edouard

It's a Jerry Springer world, I guess...


I'm sure he's already booked.

84 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:27:00am

re: #54 Killgore Trout

but I think a lot of people are interested because she's an advocate for celibacy public policy instead of sex ed and contraception but she doesn't practice it in her private life

Who does that pronoun "she" refer to?

85 nikis-knight  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:27:01am

re: #11 Sharmuta

Cash in on your fame now, pretty boy. Not many decent ladies will want you after this.

You'd think so.. but these baby daddies tend to get around. But, probably it's different in little ol' (by pop density anyway) Alaska.

86 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:27:22am

re: #11 Sharmuta

Cash in on your fame now, pretty boy. Not many decent ladies will want you after this.

* * * *
To the left, HE'S a VICTIM of those fertile Palin women.

Read "Honor Killing, American Style" at the Weekly Standard dot com blog.

87 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:27:23am

re: #14 CIA Reject

Two words: "Book Deal".

That would be one more book that he has written that he ever read.

88 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:27:41am

Your Real Good Thing (About to Come to an End)

Youtube Video
89 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:27:45am

re: #76 Joel

Who gives a crap what that self proclaimed Redneck and his criminal family have to say about anything. What Bristol saw in him is beyond me.

He's good looking. I've noticed that a number of highly attractive men have this tendency to be assholes, because they know they can replace any girl with another girl and quickly. They don't have to be nice guys because they're pretty.

90 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:27:54am

re: #54 Killgore Trout

I really don't care about this story either but I think a lot of people are interested because she's an advocate for celibacy public policy instead of sex ed and contraception but she doesn't practice it in her private life. People get exited over perceived hypocrisy. I haven't been following the story because I already don't care for Palin so it doesn't effect me either way.

You must follow it enough to be concerned about Palin's hypocrisy. And that's fine but my question is do you get as excited over the hypocrisy of Democrats insisting on ever greater taxes and that paying taxes is patriotic, only to be found out that when it comes to them, the rule doesn't apply.
Just asking.

91 MarkX  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:28:02am

re: #87 Joel


Ouch!

92 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:28:38am

what a classless jerk. he will have 5 seconds of notoriety and then nothing.
no one could admire a pos like this. they are using him and then he will be dumped.
whatever he says doesn't change my opinion of sarah who has stood by her daughter and grandchild. i admire her, as much ever.
maybe more so.

93 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:29:17am

re: #76 Joel

Who gives a crap what that self proclaimed Redneck and his criminal family have to say about anything. What Bristol saw in him is beyond me.

hey joel, how are you? are you going downtown april 15?

94 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:29:39am

Right. As if this piece of trailer trash has any credibility. It's to Bristol's credit that she finally told him to take a hike.

95 opnion  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:29:44am

re: #54 Killgore Trout

I really don't care about this story either but I think a lot of people are interested because she's an advocate for celibacy public policy instead of sex ed and contraception but she doesn't practice it in her private life. People get exited over perceived hypocrisy. I haven't been following the story because I already don't care for Palin so it doesn't effect me either way.


How did Sarah Palin not practice what she preaches? Her daughter got pregnent.

96 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:29:55am

re: #89 Sharmuta

He is good looking but I think that she is quite stunning and can get any guy she wanted. Levi and his family are the type of family that the MSM claims the Palin's are.

Levi called himself "A f****** redneck" on Facebook.

97 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:30:08am

re: #89 Sharmuta

He's good looking. I've noticed that a number of highly attractive men have this tendency to be assholes, because they know they can replace any girl with another girl and quickly. They don't have to be nice guys because they're pretty.

So true. And there are lots of beautiful girls who go through men like used tissues, because there's always another in the wings, begging to buy her a drink.

98 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:30:17am

re: #89 Sharmuta

I've noticed that a number of highly attractive men have this tendency to be assholes


Nooooooo!

:P

Lunch. Later.

99 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:30:19am

I believe nothing this spawn of a methhead has to say.

Piece of human debris.

100 ladycatnip  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:30:29am

This guy has zero character. No gentleman goes on television trash-talking his ex's relatives. My guess is he's the liar.

101 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:30:39am

re: #68 Dianna

re: #73 JohnnyReb

I don't know about Alaska either, but I do know that, shamefully, in some states it is cumbersome (and expensive) to get increased child support out of a father. I won't say any more on the subject because I can't really talk about it without getting loud and unhinged ...

102 lifeofthemind  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:30:39am

Greetings and Felicitations.

103 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:31:13am

re: #93 nyc redneck

hey joel, how are you? are you going downtown april 15?

Yes I am. I asked about you to her adn will give you a call on the cellphone this weekend.

How are you and your daughter?

104 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:31:18am

re: #81 Dianna

I didn't think my folks were idiots, precisely. But I did think that they were off their rockers.

I probably could have worded that better.
Point is . . . promotion of teen celibacy is NOT A BAD THING!

I also happen to believe sex education is a must, as part of the whole package.

But teens will do what they will do (I can recall being a teen!).
And while promotion of teen celibacy is a good thing, it is a fact that there will be many teens who will have sex, then become pregnant.

Happened to my 15-year old, and the sex safety education was ignored just as much as the celibacy message was ignored.

105 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:31:33am

re: #89 Sharmuta

He's good looking. I've noticed that a number of highly attractive men have this tendency to be assholes, because they know they can replace any girl with another girl and quickly. They don't have to be nice guys because they're pretty.

It's too bad that girls don't shun guys like that. I know that in many cases they would be unaware of this kind of behavior but in this guy's case, unawareness shouldn't come into play. be nice to see everyone ignore him.

106 iLikeCandy  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:32:09am

So when does he get his own reality show? Or a gig as a "youth reporter"? Or a part on some cheesy t.v. show about a bunch of teens and 20s who all sleep with each other and drive fast cars? Or his own clothing line? Or a modeling contract? Or a column that's ghost-written by some "clever" 35-year-old White chick? It's gotta happen. They're not gonna waste an asset like him.

107 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:32:29am

re: #84 Occasional Reader

Palin.

108 kansas  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:32:54am

re: #95 opnion

How did Bristol Sarah Palin not practice what her mother preaches ?


FIFY

109 lifeofthemind  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:33:35am

Alaska can be strange. Once I met a very attractive young lady, alas we lost contact, who said a friend of hers had been sent to Alaska with the Public Health Service. I asked how she, as a single woman, had found it?
The reply, "Well she said the odds were good but the goods were odd."

110 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:34:13am

re: #105 LGoPs

I can only speak from my perspective as a woman, but sometimes it takes a few bad experiences before a woman realizes to go after substance over the superficial.

111 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:34:19am

re: #104 reine.de.tout

Lots of people with no kids are parenting experts.

/

112 HippieforLife  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:34:27am

It is a shame that there is even a market for this. He is not too bright if he thinks this is about him. It is the media still trying to trash Sarah Palin.

If he really cares about his son this is a strange way to show it.

113 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:35:09am

re: #103 Joel

{joel}
we're great. let's get together when i get back to town after this wk end.
call me. my friend is coming up w/ some great signs for the tea party.
it is good to see you here.

114 kansas  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:35:15am

re: #110 Sharmuta

I can only speak from my perspective as a woman, but sometimes it takes a few bad experiences before a woman realizes to go after substance over the superficial.

I think that pretty much applies to most of us humans.

115 godfrey  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:35:31am

What a pleasure it'd be to kick this guy's ass.

116 HippieforLife  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:35:42am

re: #78 MandyManners

Cad.

Perfect word for him!

117 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:35:46am

re: #114 kansas

I think that pretty much applies to most of us humans.

Some never figure it out.

118 JohnnyReb  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:35:58am

re: #112 HippieforLife

It is a shame that there is even a market for this. He is not too bright if he thinks this is about him. It is the media still trying to trash Sarah Palin.

If he really cares about his son this is a strange way to show it.

IMO if he cared for his son he would not be doing this. No sane person would. His child is going to grow up the center of attention for all the wingnuts in Alaska. They will never forget this and that poor child will be the butt of jokes for a very long time.

119 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:36:01am

re: #113 nyc redneck
{nyc redneck}
Good to see you too. I asked our mutual friend about you and I will definitely be at the tea party, I work 3 blocks from there.

120 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:36:06am

re: #115 godfrey

What a pleasure it'd be to kick this guy's ass.

He's lucky her big brother is in Iraq.

121 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:36:08am

re: #110 Sharmuta

I can only speak from my perspective as a woman, but sometimes it takes a few bad experiences before a woman realizes to go after substance over the superficial.

To be honest, it took a few bad experiences, including a bad previous marriage, like that myself to learn the lesson......

122 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:36:09am

re: #115 godfrey

What a pleasure it'd be to kick this guy's ass.

I'll hold your coat.

123 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:36:18am

re: #111 OldLineTexan

Lots of people with no kids are parenting experts.

/

yep, apparently so.

124 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:36:24am

re: #120 Sharmuta

He's lucky her big brother is in Iraq.

Not for ever.

125 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:36:47am

re: #115 godfrey

What a pleasure it'd be to kick this guy's ass.

* * * *
I see ACORN unionistas protecting him 24x365 x 4 years.

126 teleskiguy  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:36:52am

This guy sucks! And he just might be something straight out of Deliverance!

127 kansas  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:36:52am

re: #120 Sharmuta

He's lucky her big brother is in Iraq.

I would like to be there when he comes home on leave.

128 opnion  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:36:58am

re: #112 HippieforLife

It is a shame that there is even a market for this. He is not too bright if he thinks this is about him. It is the media still trying to trash Sarah Palin.

If he really cares about his son this is a strange way to show it.

He comes across as an insipid little jerk.

129 KenJen  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:37:03am

He is just a young, dumb kid who is being exploited by the media.

130 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:37:07am

re: #101 CIA Reject

re: #73 JohnnyReb

I don't know about Alaska either, but I do know that, shamefully, in some states it is cumbersome (and expensive) to get increased child support out of a father. I won't say any more on the subject because I can't really talk about it without getting loud and unhinged ...

I'm of six different minds about that.

In any case I feel very bad for Bristol Palin; I think this is very painful for her. It's probably a good idea for me to go get some coffee and come back when I'm less upset.

131 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:37:31am

re: #115 godfrey

What a pleasure it'd be to kick this guy's ass.

Spoken like a true gentleman.

132 lostlakehiker  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:37:34am

re: #92 nyc redneck

what a classless jerk. he will have 5 seconds of notoriety and then nothing.
no one could admire a pos like this. they are using him and then he will be dumped.
whatever he says doesn't change my opinion of sarah who has stood by her daughter and grandchild. i admire her, as much ever.
maybe more so.

It all depends. If Palin is telling the truth and the young father did not have a de-facto apartment at the Palin residence, then Sarah goes up a notch in my estimation. If she's lying and he did, then she goes down several notches. One for having provided the apartment, some more for having lied about it, and still more for using lies to defame Levi, branding him a liar because the truth was painful to admit.

My guess is he's the liar, but guesses are just guesses. We'll know, by and by, maybe. Until then, we have Chinese hacking of our power grid, a nuclear Iran on the make, a nuclear Pakistan on the un-make, an economy that's getting hit with stimulus paddles at voltage in the trillions and still flatlining, and antarctic ice shelves that have been in place since the last ice age, now breaking up. Is that enough to put Palin's domestic soap opera below the fold?

133 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:37:46am

What are the odds that Levi Johnston in the next 30 years will spend some time in prison? He does come across like a thug.

134 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:37:47am

re: #105 LGoPs

It's too bad that girls don't shun guys like that. I know that in many cases they would be unaware of this kind of behavior but in this guy's case, unawareness shouldn't come into play. be nice to see everyone ignore him.

My daughter told a boy in HS that she wasn't going to put out so he dumped her, accused her of being a tease and got the rest of his buddies to bang into her injured shoulder (separated in a fall) in the hallways at school. I just found out this week a year after the fact. She's a tough cookie and handled herself well, but I would have loved to rearrange his priorities for doing that to her.

Levi is another poster child for an entire generation of pretty boys (and girls) who haven't heard the word no nearly enough in their young lives and we are reaping the whirlwind because of it. Sadly I look for domestic violence, divorce and abandoned children and mothers to increase.
I also wonder if my daughters will find good young men that are willing to wait until marriage to be intimate.

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:37:50am

re: #76 Joel

Who gives a crap what that self proclaimed Redneck and his criminal family have to say about anything. What Bristol saw in him is beyond me.

I don't think there are a whole lot of guys to choose from at Wasilla High. She'll meet someone much better in college.

It's a pity this schmuck is making such a fool of himself, but in the long run, Bristol has obviously made the right decision about him.

136 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:37:56am

What does Sarah Palin have on "The Left" that causes them to fear her so much that they have to keep attacking her family?

137 godfrey  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:37:58am

re: #124 Nevergiveup

And when he comes home and has a little visit, the MSM will be all over "the mean old military man is beating up our expedient way of sticking it to Sarah Palin!"

138 kansas  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:38:06am

re: #129 KenJen

He is just a young, dumb kid who is being exploited by the media.

Yeah. It's not his fault.///

139 wee fury  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:38:11am

Lesson: People are not always as they appear to be.

140 tedzilla99  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:38:13am

This idiot is on the gab-fest circuit because the libtards at the networks want to hear him bash Sarah Palin. If he had nothing but nice things to say, they wouldn't be interested. So, to give this person an ounce of credibility is a shame and a crime.

141 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:39:03am

re: #129 KenJen

He is just a young, dumb kid who is being exploited by the media.

Sadly, I think that is probably a good explanation.

142 godfrey  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:39:23am

OT

Obama's lawyer backs ban on Tariq Ramadan

143 HippieforLife  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:39:34am

re: #104 reine.de.tout

When I was in high school my Mother had great advice for me and my friends:

"Sex is not bad, but you have to worry about the consequences".

144 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:40:01am

re: #130 Dianna

I'm of six different minds about that.

In any case I feel very bad for Bristol Palin; I think this is very painful for her. It's probably a good idea for me to go get some coffee and come back when I'm less upset.

i agree, bristol must feel so bad. my heart aches for her.
she just needs to hang on, get busy, focus on her dreams and go forward
w/ her life. she is so lucky to have parents who care abt her. that will make all
the difference. (i know what i'm talking abt.)

145 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:40:07am

re: #141 OldLineTexan

Sadly, I think that is probably a good explanation.

He didn't have to participate.

146 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:40:13am

re: #110 Sharmuta

I can only speak from my perspective as a woman, but sometimes it takes a few bad experiences before a woman realizes to go after substance over the superficial.


We can only hope they have learned this lesson by 2010.

147 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:40:14am

re: #136 OldLineTexan

What does Sarah Palin have on "The Left" that causes them to fear her so much that they have to keep attacking her family?

* * * *
For a plausible explanation to your question about why Palin threatens democrats, read "Honor Killing, American Style" at the Weekly Standard dot com's blog.

148 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:40:22am

re: #129 KenJen

He is just a young, dumb kid who is being exploited by the media.

I don't see anyone holding him hostage. He could have said no to the interviews and minded his own business.

Airing dirty laundry is just tacky.

149 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:40:32am

Hang on here. What he did is wrong. But did the Palin's deny what they did out of 'political expediency'?

This my seem 'small'...but they are that worried about their 'image' versus 'honesty', what else might they do to protect the 'image'.

My 2 cents.

150 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:40:38am

re: #143 HippieforLife

When I was in high school my Mother had great advice for me and my friends:

"Sex is not bad, but you have to worry about the consequences".

And remember: women get stuck, men just leave.

151 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:40:46am

re: #136 OldLineTexan

What does Sarah Palin have on "The Left" that causes them to fear her so much that they have to keep attacking her family?

Basic decency and an actual understanding of - us.

152 tedzilla99  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:41:12am

re: #136 OldLineTexan

What does Sarah Palin have on "The Left" that causes them to fear her so much that they have to keep attacking her family?

Good looks, brains, courage, conservative and Christian values, and a healthy disdain for the left. Textbook! You know you have won the argument with a leftist when they start attacking you personally or attacking your family.

153 godfrey  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:41:17am

re: #131 reine.de.tout

Aw shucks, Reine.

154 Gella  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:41:21am

he just wants his 15min of fame, thats all

155 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:41:34am

Is he paying child support?

156 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:41:37am

re: #145 Dianna

He didn't have to participate.

When I agree with "exploited", I am not exculpating him in the least.

157 Canoe Train  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:41:56am

re: #89 Sharmuta

You could make the same observation about guys who are "funny," as in humorous. Some young women will look at them and think that humor means "confidence," while shy guys or quiet guys, get ignored, insulted, or maligned.

158 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:42:14am

He's 19 and cash strapped--and the Palin family is pretty powerful in Alaska. Maybe the best defense is a good offense. At the end of the day--big deal. this is a distraction--like Billy Carter, Reagan's kids, the Bush grand-kids and nieces, Roger Clinton, etc.

159 godfrey  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:42:14am

re: #155 MandyManners

The boy needs to man up.

160 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:42:28am

re: #143 HippieforLife

When I was in high school my Mother had great advice for me and my friends:

"Sex is not bad, but you have to worry about the consequences".

She was right.
My daughter and her boyfriend ignored, ignored, ignored.
I had a "talk" with both of them when I could see they were very much involved with each other.

She had a tough year, and learned a lesson.

161 Sponge  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:42:39am

re: #44 Ford_Prefect

Figured that out. I just refer to bad guys that have kids as 'demon seed' so, my fault.....lesson learned.

162 opnion  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:43:05am

re: #129 KenJen

He is just a young, dumb kid who is being exploited by the media.


I don't know that I buy that. His peers are fighting two wars, not lacking maturity.
He seems to be relishing the spot light, & doesn't care a bit about the pain that he is delivering to Bristol Palin. I think that he is less exploited ,than seizing an opportunity.

163 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:43:14am

re: #132 lostlakehiker

Is that enough to put Palin's domestic soap opera below the fold?

Of course not. If they informed the electorate of real issues, some of them might figure out we have a fool in the Oval Office.

164 nikis-knight  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:43:24am

re: #156 OldLineTexan

When I agree with "exploited", I am not exculpating him in the least.

Kind of like (though less hideous in behavior) whats-her-face, Cindy Sheehan.

165 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:43:26am

re: #150 Dianna

And remember: women get stuck, menboys just leave.

Real men don't leave. Of course, this one is only a man in legal terms.

/and anyone that wants to throw the "No true Scotsman" crap at me, be my guest. You're wrong.

166 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:43:30am

re: #145 Dianna

He didn't have to participate.

In what? The interview or ... oh, never mind.

167 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:43:32am

re: #134 DaddyG

Good for your daughter. To me, the best way to get kids to wait until they're ready is to instill self-respect in them. My girls, especially the older one, have very high standards and are willing to wait until they find a man who is worth their while.

168 godfrey  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:43:35am

re: #162 opnion

Who are this guy's parents? Where are they?

169 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:43:43am

re: #136 OldLineTexan

What does Sarah Palin have on "The Left" that causes them to fear her so much that they have to keep attacking her family?

sarah has everything going on in her life that the left has tried to tear down abt. our society.
and she looks good to a big segment of americans who have still values.

170 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:43:50am

re: #164 nikis-knight

Kind of like (though less hideous in behavior) whats-her-face, Cindy Sheehan.

I think she actually did start to think SHE was important.

171 Perplexed  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:44:23am

re: #159 godfrey

The boy needs to man up.

Any chances of getting him drunk enough to sign enlistment papers for the Marine Corps?

172 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:44:35am

re: #167 doppelganglander

Good for your daughter. To me, the best way to get kids to wait until they're ready is to instill self-respect in them. My girls, especially the older one, have very high standards and are willing to wait until they find a man who is worth their while.

And they will be waiting a very...very...very...long time.

:)

173 jet2nc  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:44:36am

The smartest thing the Palin family can do is let poor Levi drift off into the Arctic C BS. sunset on an "Al Gore Global Warming Iceberg". Many Arctic Terns have a bigger brain this poor example of a father. Be thankful Bristol, that this guy is showing his real intelligence and judgment before he married you.
No need to wonder when CBS will interview any of Joe Biden's daughter Ashley's friends. It just would not happen to a Democrat. The CBS eye has a blinder on its left side.

174 nikis-knight  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:44:37am

re: #165 OldLineTexan

Yes, but I think boys are the majority these days, or nearly so.

175 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:45:13am

re: #168 godfrey

Who are this guy's parents? Where are they?

His mother got arrested for selling drugs. Enough said.

176 wee fury  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:45:23am

Lesson from my Mom:
"Never talk about anybody else's kids -- because you never know what your own are going to do."

177 Canoe Train  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:46:18am

re: #118 JohnnyReb

Indeed, if he cared for his child, he would be the one fighting for primary custody, or joint custody, and let the other parent get socked with visitation and child support. As it is, he will son learn to his detriment that many "rights" one thought one had either do not apply, or do not exist in Family Court.

178 UberInfidel67  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:46:19am

Gee, I can't wait until the media tells us when the oldest Obama girl gets her first mestrual cycle./

This shows there is still fear of Sarah Palin. She is not anything but a governor anymore....butt out of her family business. And Levi, you need your ass kicked. Punk ass bitch.

179 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:46:24am

re: #155 MandyManners

Is he paying child support?

that is a very good question.
let's get down to HIS responsibility.

180 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:46:26am

I have to say, I am very relieved the kids are not getting married. He would not have improved.

181 KenJen  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:46:27am

re: #148 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't see anyone holding him hostage. He could have said no to the interviews and minded his own business.

Airing dirty laundry is just tacky.

I agree, but you can just look at him and tell he's really,really stupid. Palin and her family can handle a few punches thrown at them from a stupid teenager.

182 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:46:27am

re: #160 reine.de.tout

She was right.
My daughter and her boyfriend ignored, ignored, ignored.
I had a "talk" with both of them when I could see they were very much involved with each other.

She had a tough year, and learned a lesson.

{reine} and {la princesse}

I hate when kids have to learn the hard way. but they often do.

183 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:46:55am

He should date Biden's daughter. Maybe he has a few connections she could use.

184 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:47:51am

re: #177 Canoe Train

Indeed, if he cared for his child, he would be the one fighting for primary custody, or joint custody, and let the other parent get socked with visitation and child support. As it is, he will son learn to his detriment that many "rights" one thought one had either do not apply, or do not exist in Family Court.

If he cared about his child he'd work for what's in the child's best interest.

185 godfrey  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:48:06am

re: #167 doppelganglander

To me, the best way to get kids to wait until they're ready is to instill self-respect in them.

That and three more things: be around, ask questions, and get them up to speed on STDs. I'm the last guy to be sanctimonious about the issue. Facts, however, are facts. Kids want to get into it? It's only natural. But they are rolling the dice -- in many ways.

186 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:48:31am

re: #181 KenJen

I agree, but you can just look at him and tell he's really,really stupid. Palin and her family can handle a few punches thrown at them from a stupid teenager.

I agree, but integrity and honor are not bound by a person's IQ--in either direction.

187 godfrey  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:48:47am

re: #183 Sharmuta

Ouch!

188 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:48:51am

re: #162 opnion

I don't know that I buy that. His peers are fighting two wars, not lacking maturity.
He seems to be relishing the spot light, & doesn't care a bit about the pain that he is delivering to Bristol Palin. I think that he is less exploited ,than seizing an opportunity.

* * * *
Levi has been drafted all right--by democrats to deploy against the Palins.

189 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:48:51am

re: #158 calcajun

He's 19 and cash strapped--and the Palin family is pretty powerful in Alaska. Maybe the best defense is a good offense. At the end of the day--big deal. this is a distraction--like Billy Carter, Reagan's kids, the Bush grand-kids and nieces, Roger Clinton, etc.

And the way he acts, I don't think he'd last long in many jobs, especially those available to someone his age in Alaska.
Maybe I watch too much Deadliest Catch, but I don't see him making it on a crab boat, for example.
"Really bad. We sent him to tie the pots, and then there was a wave and he was gone. We looked for him, but..."

190 Canoe Train  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:48:53am

re: #159 godfrey

Would "manning up" include actually fighting for custody, or even getting primary custody ? I think it would.

191 gregg  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:48:58am

I'm guessing Andrew Sullivan is desperately trying to arrange an interview so he can pry the truth out of Levi regarding Trig.

192 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:49:11am

re: #182 doppelganglander

{reine} and {la princesse}

I hate when kids have to learn the hard way. but they often do.

Ya know, it's possible to get through any difficulty!
Esp. when you believe that what you are doing is the right thing to do (choosing life). Day-to-day is hard; long-term, not so.
And she toughened up a lot.

193 opnion  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:50:00am

re: #186 goddessoftheclassroom

I agree, but integrity and honor are not bound by a person's IQ--in either direction.

As I see it, this is just one more opportunity to hold the Palins up to scorn.
They don't have this coming.

194 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:50:03am

re: #77 reine.de.tout

I mean, we all know at least one teen, do we not, at least one, who thinks their parents are complete idiots and know nothing?


No, I don't. My daughter is 12.

195 WindHorse  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:50:07am

it is sad, to me, that the people interviewing this moron are taking advantage of him only for the purpose of slamming Palin. This idiot doesn't have a clue and has thrown away what probably would have been his saving grace.

196 opnion  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:50:41am

re: #188 alegrias

* * * *
Levi has been drafted all right--by democrats to deploy against the Palins.

And he went willingly.

197 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:50:43am

re: #167 doppelganglander

Good for your daughter. To me, the best way to get kids to wait until they're ready is to instill self-respect in them. My girls, especially the older one, have very high standards and are willing to wait until they find a man who is worth their while.

She is a very good kid and strong willed (a characteristic I like to see in my daughters). I know they will all find good mates and I act towards them and their mother in a way that I hope they learn to expect it. But they shouldn't have to pay for doing the right thing with villification and rumors.

It is a shame that today the way a girl gets a reputation is by being intelligent and well behaved. Heaven forbid a good girl from a strong family doesn't behave all the time and gets into trouble. Then all heck breaks loose.

The trashing of Bristol to get to Sarah is a terrible example of mysogeny and abuse - so where are the women's rights advocates on this? Perhaps they are too caught up in the abortion cause to respect Bristols corageous decision to live with the consequences of her actions (good and bad).

*Mutter*

198 aRedPhishHead  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:50:53am

Drama! Intrigue! Lies!

Neither result - Palin lying or this bum lying - would surprise me.

In any event, we now have the Democrats' newest hero - a bum from a flyover state who knocked up the daughter of one of their political enemies, abandoned her and then went on the tabloid/gossip show circuit with intellectual heavyweights like Tyra Banks to peddle various sundry details about his relationship with her.

Prediction: Assuming the story has more legs, I predict that it won't be long before we hear that when people criticize Levi for what is really classless behavior (but fair game in love and war), there will be screams from certain quarters that he's somehow a victim in this whole sordid affair - a victim of the right wing noise /attack / war machine. Or something.

Mark it!

199 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:50:54am

re: #172 Oh no...Sand People!

And they will be waiting a very...very...very...long time.

:)

I think the 21-year-old has the right idea. She's more attracted to guys in their late 20s who have mostly gotten past their frat boy period. They treat her like a queen (and have money to spend on her), while guys her own age are broke and thoughtless.

200 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:51:02am

re: #194 Who Watches the Watchmen?

No, I don't. My daughter is 12.

Wasn't referring necessarily to one's own.

201 realwest  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:51:33am

re: #132 lostlakehiker

Until then, we have Chinese hacking of our power grid, a nuclear Iran on the make, a nuclear Pakistan on the un-make, an economy that's getting hit with stimulus paddles at voltage in the trillions and still flatlining, and antarctic ice shelves that have been in place since the last ice age, now breaking up. Is that enough to put Palin's domestic soap opera below the fold?

I'd give that a hundred updings if I could.

202 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:51:46am

I think he's lying, and hopes to cash in on his relationship with the Palins. And the MSM is only too happy to help.

203 Canoe Train  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:52:09am

re: #201 realwest

I agree with RealWest, here.

204 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:52:20am

re: #185 godfrey

That and three more things: be around, ask questions, and get them up to speed on STDs. I'm the last guy to be sanctimonious about the issue. Facts, however, are facts. Kids want to get into it? It's only natural. But they are rolling the dice -- in many ways.

In my younger daughter's health class, they showed some photos that were apparently so gross she wouldn't even describe them to me. Not just STDs -- cancer-riddled lungs, that sort of thing. A picture is truly worth a thousand words.

205 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:52:22am

re: #184 MandyManners

If he cared about his child he'd work for what's in the child's best interest.

And this ain't it.

206 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:52:31am

re: #190 Canoe Train

Would "manning up" include actually fighting for custody, or even getting primary custody ? I think it would.

* * *
You're presuming Levi cares about his child.

It is evident he does not.

207 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:52:34am

Shiny.Objects.

208 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:53:09am

re: #184 MandyManners

If he cared about his child he'd work for what's in the child's best interest.

He doesn't care because he thinks he's the child. And he is.

209 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:53:40am

Ten years down the road,when his child understands
what he did!
He WILL regret every penny he may have
earned pulling this stunt!
And, That's what it is a stunt.....With consequences!

210 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:53:43am

re: #132 lostlakehiker

... Until then, we have Chinese hacking of our power grid, a nuclear Iran on the make, a nuclear Pakistan on the un-make, an economy that's getting hit with stimulus paddles at voltage in the trillions and still flatlining, and antarctic ice shelves that have been in place since the last ice age, now breaking up. Is that enough to put Palin's domestic soap opera below the fold?

If it were Biden's domestic soap opera, yes.

But it's Palin's, so no.

211 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:53:59am

re: #192 reine.de.tout

Ya know, it's possible to get through any difficulty!
Esp. when you believe that what you are doing is the right thing to do (choosing life). Day-to-day is hard; long-term, not so.
And she toughened up a lot.

* * * *
Fortunately Levi outed himself as a liberal kiss & tell sleezeball not worthy of his baby.

212 zeebeach  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:54:32am

re: #72 doppelganglander

Agreed.

213 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:54:44am

re: #206 alegrias

* * *
You're presuming Levi cares about his child.

It is evident he does not.

it is probably for the best if they get him out of their lives.
bristol's dad will be a stable male influence on the baby.
a pos like this kid is going to be nothing but trouble.

214 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:54:58am

re: #202 Ward Cleaver
The airplane load of lawyers they sent during the election couldn't dig it up like this! The kids a gold mine!
////////

215 UberInfidel67  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:54:59am

To hell with Levi. This girl has a loving supportive family behind her. Who does he have? The media? They can turn on you in a second. I hope he regrets going on tv and talking shit about the mother of his child. One day, this will come back to bite him in the ass. I can't wait for Tripp to ask him why he did it.

216 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:55:21am

re: #207 Ward Cleaver

Shiny.Objects.

Indeed.

217 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:55:28am

Pretty active thread for a topic that most people claim to not care about.
Just sayin

218 WindHorse  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:56:12am

re: #215 UberInfidel67

Trigg - right?

219 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:56:27am

re: #173 jet2nc

No need to wonder when CBS will interview any of Joe Biden's daughter Ashley's friends. It just would not happen to a Democrat. The CBS eye has a blinder on its left side.

I think the Democratic Party should be made to declare CBS and ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, LA Times, TIME, Newsweek et al as Party donors. They are all acting as a Public Relations arm for the Democrats and the Democrats should pay a financial price for that.

220 UberInfidel67  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:56:31am

re: #217 Killgore Trout
Maybe because most of us here have sons and daughters of our own and think this situation is ugly?

221 UberInfidel67  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:56:48am

re: #218 WindHorse
Bristol's baby is Tripp.

222 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:56:51am

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Right!
Guns,Beer,Boobs..........Pirates,Asshate for POTUS....

223 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:57:09am

re: #217 Killgore Trout

I don't think I said I didn't care, but regardless, I'm enjoying kicking him. Let us have our fun! He's earned it.

224 WindHorse  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:57:24am

re: #221 UberInfidel67

okay.... got it.

225 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:57:30am

I understand this Levi went on these shows and is blasting the Palin's. What if any of what he says is true? Yes, he made a mistake, and admittedly Bristol is paying the major price.

Do we really think he doesn't care about his own child? Do we really think, I have my guesses, that he is 'truly' welcome in the Palin home? I bet he is walking on eggshells every second of the hours he spends there. I bet it is a horribly strained situation. It sucks for both sides, I am sure, but especially the poor baby.

226 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:57:40am

re: #222 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

Right!
Guns,Beer,Boobs..........Pirates,Asshat for POTUS....

Fixed it!

227 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:57:55am

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Pretty active thread for a topic that most people claim to not care about.
Just sayin

And here you are.

228 UberInfidel67  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:57:59am

**OT** Ya'll should have deen downtown Pittsburgh today : (

229 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:58:11am

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Pretty active thread for a topic that most people claim to not care about.
Just sayin

Sorry for feeding the beast but if spend too much time on the real news these days I get too darn frustrated with the idiot class who voted for our POSIC and are now Blaming Bush for not receiving their world peace and unicorns.

230 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:58:25am

re: #223 Sharmuta

Go for it.

231 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:58:34am

re: #190 Canoe Train

Would "manning up" include actually fighting for custody, or even getting primary custody ? I think it would.

A father who sets out to deliberately hurt his child's mother and grandmother does not sound like a good father to me. He sounds like trash.

232 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:59:10am

I am curious about why Sarah Palin still needs trashing by proxy.

OTOH, the thread evolved into a general parenting discussion. I have kids in this age group, beyond it, and under it.

So the discussion is interesting to me.

233 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:59:20am

Look!
That cloud looks just like a ......Moose!

234 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:59:25am

re: #225 Oh no...Sand People!

I understand this Levi went on these shows and is blasting the Palin's. What if any of what he says is true? Yes, he made a mistake, and admittedly Bristol is paying the major price.

Do we really think he doesn't care about his own child? Do we really think, I have my guesses, that he is 'truly' welcome in the Palin home? I bet he is walking on eggshells every second of the hours he spends there. I bet it is a horribly strained situation. It sucks for both sides, I am sure, but especially the poor baby.

So.... he resolves a delicate family situation by trashing his Baby Grandma on national television? Probably not.

235 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:00:04am

re: #232 OldLineTexan

I am curious about why Sarah Palin still needs trashing by proxy. ...

Triangulation.

236 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:00:06am

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Pretty active thread for a topic that most people claim to not care about.
Just sayin

* * * *
It's who's pumping Levi for details that is really at issue in this private matter.

Pres. Obama gave a plum job in Washington to the Alaska democrat, Mr. Elton, who trash talked Governor Palin during the campaign.

Democrats stand to benefit from taking down Governor Palin and are WILLING and able to attack her family through this dimwitted young man of little education or wisdom.

Levi is a tool of democrat party hacks and their media enablers, engaged in taking down Gov. Palin.

237 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:00:07am

re: #232 OldLineTexan

OLT...It's the Media!
"K"

238 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:00:42am

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Pretty active thread for a topic that most people claim to not care about.
Just sayin

In my case, I just get angry. I hate it when some jerk trashes a girl he got pregnant.

I saw it a few times, when I was younger. I'm sure I'm going to see it again in my role as honorary auntie. It's disgusting and makes me want to hurt the boy in the case. It's a personal piece of fury.

Sorry.

239 Adrenalyn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:00:46am

ok, apologies in advance if someone beat me to it

but didn't he just toss Sarah, under the bus

240 freetoken  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:00:49am

re: #76 Joel

What Bristol saw in him is beyond me.

Women like bad boys.


/ducks

241 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:00:49am

re: #237 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

OLT...It's the Media!
"K"

are you Dr. Shalit's sock?

//////

LOL

242 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:00:58am

This will pass. No long term damage has been done. What did this 18 yr old say Sarah Palin said or did?
...huh? I already can't recall.

Levi will mature and Sarah will forgive him. He'll be over for dinner. He happens to be the father of her daughters child.

243 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:01:13am

re: #234 Sharmuta

So.... he resolves a delicate family situation by trashing his Baby Grandma on national television? Probably not.

Now admittedly, I am only commenting on what the link has read. He stated that he stayed in the Palin's home, and during the campaign the Palins denied it. I haven't looked into the other stories he may have spoken on.

But yeah, I understand your point.

244 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:02:05am

re: #231 MandyManners

A father who sets out to deliberately hurt his child's mother and grandmother does not sound like a good father to me. He sounds like trash.

STUPID trash.
no consideration for the consequences of what he is doing.

245 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:02:09am

re: #225 Oh no...Sand People!

And he helps the baby this way? How?

His behavior is disgusting.

246 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:02:11am

re: #238 Dianna

In my case, I just get angry. I hate it when some jerk trashes a girl he got pregnant.

I saw it a few times, when I was younger. I'm sure I'm going to see it again in my role as honorary auntie. It's disgusting and makes me want to hurt the boy in the case. It's a personal piece of fury.

Sorry.

It's misogyny. We should be angry.

247 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:03:06am

I think you'd need some personal acquaintance with these people to decide who's lying. Doesn't seem too nice though, to go on tv with something like this.

248 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:03:12am

re: #200 reine.de.tout

re: #194 Who Watches the Watchmen?

No, I don't. My daughter is 12.

Wasn't referring necessarily to one's own.


Ah, yes, but she's advanced for her age--at least when it comes to being way smarter than her father. ;-)

249 Canoe Train  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:03:21am

re: #240 freetoken

Why duck when some of them are open about it ?

250 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:03:25am

re: #242 unrealizedviewpoint

This will pass. No long term damage has been done. What did this 18 yr old say Sarah Palin said or did?
...huh? I already can't recall.

Levi will mature and Sarah will forgive him. He'll be over for dinner. He happens to be the father of her daughters child.

He better bring a taster.

251 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:03:27am

re: #225 Oh no...Sand People!

I understand this Levi went on these shows and is blasting the Palin's. What if any of what he says is true? Yes, he made a mistake, and admittedly Bristol is paying the major price.

Do we really think he doesn't care about his own child? Do we really think, I have my guesses, that he is 'truly' welcome in the Palin home? I bet he is walking on eggshells every second of the hours he spends there. I bet it is a horribly strained situation. It sucks for both sides, I am sure, but especially the poor baby.

Whatever the exact arrangements were, the Palins tried to make him a part of the family. He and Bristol expressed the intention to get married, and Sarah and Todd clearly tried to welcome him and make the best of it. He's turned around and repaid their kindness by blabbing their private business all over television. If he's even allowed in their home now, any strain in the relationship he brought on himself. I feel sorry for the Palins and the baby, but certainly not Levi.

252 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:03:42am

re: #241 OldLineTexan

Was wondering who had their hand up my ass!
///LOL

253 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:03:47am

The country is in a mess and this is news?

254 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:04:06am

They won't succeed in tearing down Governor Palin. She has a loving family, the courage of her convictions and she is accomplished. She has a history of taking losses and difficulty and turning them into success.

The only place the libtards can kick her is up another level.

There will be hell to pay for the gloating games the Dems and their talking heads are playing now and in 2010 and 2012 the conservatives will have her back.

255 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:04:12am

re: #245 Dianna

And he helps the baby this way? How?

His behavior is disgusting.

It is disgusting. Completely a tragic situation, and of course does no good for the child.

256 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:04:23am

re: #242 unrealizedviewpoint

This will pass. No long term damage has been done. What did this 18 yr old say Sarah Palin said or did?
...huh? I already can't recall.

Levi will mature and Sarah will forgive him. He'll be over for dinner. He happens to be the father of her daughters child.

All he'd get from me is a closed door in the face.

257 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:04:43am

re: #252 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

OMG! ROTFLMAO!

258 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:04:46am

re: #256 Dianna

All he'd get from me is a closed door in the face.

You're too kind.

259 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:05:20am

re: #250 Nevergiveup

He better bring a taster.

Palin will have Cheney take him hunting.

260 jaunte  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:05:41am

re: #258 Sharmuta

She didn't say the door would be on hinges...

261 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:05:44am

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Pretty active thread for a topic that most people claim to not care about.
Just sayin

I haven't been following the story because I already don't care for Palin so it doesn't effect me either way.

Most of the comments here are based either on parenting, disdain for this kid, or observations on the media's penchant for destroying Palin.
It is your comment above that indicates that you don't care.
Just saying.

262 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:05:51am

re: #259 Kosh's Shadow

Palin will have Cheney take him hunting.

The Palins know him as "Unky Dick".

263 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:06:03am

I know this is going to sound as though I'm splitting hairs, but to me there is an important difference between living in someone's home (paying room/board, etc) and being a guest in that home.

I would bet that the Palins allowed Mr. Johnson to be a guest for their daughter's sake, but I would be surprised to learn that he had rent receipts. The Palins could deny he lived there because he was their guest, and I don't see why they should have to explain that to anyone in the media.

264 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:06:21am

re: #253 Who Watches the Watchmen?

The country is in a mess and this is news?

Then go to another thread! Honestly! I'm just venting.

265 irongrampa  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:07:10am

Shame not being able to comment as I'd like on this. Not and be allowed on the site, at any rate.

266 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:07:44am

This tears it!
I'm starting a Media Group of my own!
Who's got lots of string and some dixie cups!?
Gotta go!
Having a memorial today for a friend who left
us far to young!
Sad day!
God Bless Ya'll!
Loader

267 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:07:45am

Not only is this stunt of his misogynistic, it's also misandry. Many men love being fathers, and would do anything for their child. This coldhearted act helps to serve those who want to trash fatherhood and manliness. It perpetuates the negative stereotype of fathers/men as deadbeats. Shame on him!

268 Gella  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:07:58am

i feel sorry for the child, with dad behaving like that, kid will need a lot of hours of therapy, really sad situation, he is really selfish

269 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:08:07am

re: #260 jaunte

She didn't say the door would be on hinges...

LOL! I needed that.

270 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:08:17am

re: #253 Who Watches the Watchmen?

The country is in a mess and this is news?

this is news only because
the left is missing no opportunity to trash sarah.
tarnish her in any way because she could be a formidable challenger to o
in the next election.

271 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:08:21am

On the other hand, his family sounds like winners--mom convicted of selling drugs. As a parent, I'd be ticked at Bristol for letting this twit bed and impregnate her. Also, if he knocked up my daughter, dumped her, ducked responsibility for his kid and then goes on national TV and dishes on her and her family--I'd suggest that this young man grow another set of eyes so he won't have to keep looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life.

272 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:08:27am

re: #256 Dianna

All he'd get from me is a closed door in the face.

Me? I'd take him out behind the woodshed and spank him beat the hell out of him. Then I'd sit em down and feed him.

273 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:08:45am

re: #265 irongrampa

Shame not being able to comment as I'd like on this. Not and be allowed on the site, at any rate.

Stinky is tought but fair. Try obscure references (i.e. why are there little bits of varsity letter jacket in my mooseburger?)

274 Dainn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:09:02am

This is one more thread in the media narrative of Sarah Palin: she is a shallow MILF who is only interesting on the gossip columns. Whatever Palin really is, she has made an enemy of the media and they smell blood. She and her family won't get any rest.

I'm no fan of Palin. I disagree with her on most of the social issues. But what the media is doing to her is sick and sad. Think: when was the last news report you heard about any of her policies?

This is what we have reduced ourselves to. Daytime TV talkshows.

275 jaunte  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:09:23am

re: #269 Sharmuta

I have three daughters negotiating their own obstacle course of children in men's bodies, so I have some dark thoughts about this.

276 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:09:39am

re: #265 irongrampa

Shame not being able to comment as I'd like on this. Not and be allowed on the site, at any rate.

Heh heh heh heh. I have four daughters, myself.

I learned several years ago that once they were "adults" I was NOT in control.

In the grand tradition of AA, I learned to relinquish the control I did not have in order to gain the control I needed.

One great son-in-law in place, only three more to go. I pray that #2-#4 will be several years in the future, though. ;)

277 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:09:39am

re: #266 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

This tears it!
I'm starting a Media Group of my own!
Who's got lots of string and some dixie cups!?

Careful I hear the Chinese are heavily invested in string and dixie cups. Could be a back door in your network.

278 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:09:43am

re: #272 unrealizedviewpoint

With a straw!
Jaw wired shut and all ...ya know............

279 DistantThunder  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:10:37am

His mother was arrested for drug possession and I haven't read anything about his father. Does he have a good father in his life? If the answer is no, chances are, with a druggie mom, he's been raised to be a liar too. Tragic.

280 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:11:39am

re: #268 Gella

i feel sorry for the child, with dad behaving like that, kid will need a lot of hours of therapy, really sad situation, he is really selfish

The child has a mom, loving grandparents with enough money, aunts and uncles, and an uncle almost exactly his own age who can be a friend as they grow up. I think the baby is going to be fine.

Levi on the other hand, is going nowhere fast.

281 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:11:42am

re: #277 DaddyG

Ok!
Mores Code's a good place to start.......
Hey look out your window!
I gotta tell ya something............

282 freetoken  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:12:01am

re: #274 Dainn


This is what we have reduced ourselves to. Daytime TV talkshows.

When I first opened this thread I thought to myself... we really need to have a cheesy organ playing in the background... this reminds me of the old b&w soaps (before everything got so explicit and implied sex, such as living together, was the drama.)

283 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:12:24am

re: #274 Dainn

This is one more thread in the media narrative of Sarah Palin: she is a shallow MILF who is only interesting on the gossip columns. Whatever Palin really is, she has made an enemy of the media and they smell blood. She and her family won't get any rest.

I'm no fan of Palin. I disagree with her on most of the social issues. But what the media is doing to her is sick and sad. Think: when was the last news report you heard about any of her policies?

This is what we have reduced ourselves to. Daytime TV talkshows.

Shallow? I'd love to see your definiton of the depth of achievements of our POTUS.

284 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:12:45am

re: #281 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

Ok!
Mores Code's a good place to start.......
Hey look out your window!
I gotta tell ya something............

Hey - not with the laser pointer!

285 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:13:06am

re: #275 jaunte

I have three daughters negotiating their own obstacle course of children in men's bodies, so I have some dark thoughts about this.

I can imagine.

286 Gella  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:13:07am

re: #283 LGoPs

Shallow? I'd love to see your definiton of the depth of achievements of our POTUS.


excuse me what?
////////////

287 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:13:19am

Is this clown still working on the North Slope? I'd expect that the folks working up there might be pretty sympathetic to the Palins. Accidents happen. Not suggesting anything, just saying.

288 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:13:28am

re: #283 LGoPs

Read the post more closelier.

;)

289 Gella  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:14:06am

re: #280 SanFranciscoZionist

The child has a mom, loving grandparents with enough money, aunts and uncles, and an uncle almost exactly his own age who can be a friend as they grow up. I think the baby is going to be fine.

Levi on the other hand, is going nowhere fast.

i am sure child will taken care of good, i hope his dads behavior won't affect child in the feature

290 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:14:23am

re: #279 DistantThunder

His mother was arrested for drug possession and I haven't read anything about his father. Does he have a good father in his life? If the answer is no, chances are, with a druggie mom, he's been raised to be a liar too. Tragic.

Just another example of how fathers are important. He might not have had a role model.

291 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:14:44am

I wouldn't be shocked if this little sonofabitch denied paternity and demanded a DNA test, and then leaked it to the MFM.

292 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:15:08am

re: #215 UberInfidel67

To hell with Levi.

I don't know if I'm willing to go THAT far, but he's certainly not covered himself in glory these past few months.

This girl has a loving supportive family behind her. Who does he have? The media? They can turn on you in a second. I hope he regrets going on tv and talking shit about the mother of his child. One day, this will come back to bite him in the ass. I can't wait for Tripp to ask him why he did it.

That about sums up my thoughts on this.

293 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:15:24am

re: #291 MandyManners

I wouldn't be shocked if this little sonofabitch denied paternity and demanded a DNA test, and then leaked it to the MFM.

I am sure Maurey Povich is already on the case.

294 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:15:31am

re: #288 OldLineTexan

Read the post more closelier.

;)

Maybe I misread it. On second read it seems to be a sarcastic comment.
Thanks for pointing that out.
:)

295 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:15:52am

re: #289 Gella

i am sure child will taken care of good, i hope his dads behavior won't affect child in the feature

Me too. My sister in law's first husband was a Levi type. He's gone, and has had no interest in taking care of his daughter. Her second husband is daddy to her little girl, and he's a good one.

God willing, it will all work out for the best. :)

296 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:16:02am

re: #248 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Ah, yes, but she's advanced for her age--at least when it comes to being way smarter than her father. ;-)

I get the impression that Bristol's unborn child is already smarter than its father.

297 Canoe Train  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:16:21am

Sharmuta, I agree. Fathers are important. As important as mothers.

re: #290 Sharmuta

298 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:16:22am

re: #276 OldLineTexan

Heh heh heh heh. I have four daughters, myself.

I learned several years ago that once they were "adults" I was NOT in control.

In the grand tradition of AA, I learned to relinquish the control I did not have in order to gain the control I needed.

One great son-in-law in place, only three more to go. I pray that #2-#4 will be several years in the future, though. ;)


I have four girls myself, but they are age 10 and under. I fear for what awaits them in general as it relates to this country and the path I fear it is beginning to travel thanks to FCBBHO, et al and specifically as it relates to this topic of misogyny.

299 aRedPhishHead  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:16:23am

Didn't Biden's daughter get caught on video recently doing blow?

Let's see if I got this "moral calculus" correct:

Levi Johnston: only mentioned because he dated the daughter of a former vice-presidential candidate, abandons child he fathered with said daughter, disgraces self and ex on national TV repeatedly by making accusations that may or may not be true against ex's family and mother of his unborn child, media plays up like it's an important and relevant story that warrants a significant amount of coverage for months after the election in which said candidate is no longer involved with.

Ashley Biden: Daughter of current Vice President of the United States (a man who coined the term "Drug Czar" and condemns those who do drugs to prison for the common good), caught on video this year at a party in Delaware doing lines of blow, was cited previously for marijuana possession in 1999 and was arrested for obstructing a police officer in 2002. This daughter of the Vice President of the United States is currently employed - at taxpayer expense - as social worker for children and families in Delaware. Nary a mention outside of gossip sites and a few Democrat blogs desperate to sweep it under the rug (she did blow, but she was set up!lol!)

Story 1: Important.
Story 2: Story?

Splendid.

300 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:16:29am

re: #250 Nevergiveup

He better bring a taster.

Don't taste me, bro!

301 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:16:32am

re: #296 Zimriel

I get the impression that Bristol's unborn child is already smarter than its father.

The kid was born back in December.

302 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:16:52am

re: #296 Zimriel

I get the impression that Bristol's unborn child is already smarter than its father.

The baby is a few months old now--but yes, I agree, I think he's definitely brighter than his old man.

303 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:17:00am

OK gang--nearly 300 posts on a sordid piece of news that means nothing and less that 100 over on China's web-bot attack on our electronic infrastructure. What's wrong with this picture?

304 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:17:01am

re: #292 Zimriel

[etc]
That about sums up my thoughts on this.

I seem to have a problem with blockquote tags. pimf

305 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:17:12am

I have four daughters, the oldest two in the midst of the dating (or not) game and the third discovering boys are icky and intriguing at the same time.

They use good judgement most of the time that I am aware of (and they are fortunately very open with mom and mostly open with me). But I wouldn't be surprised if they ever failed to use good judgement and I wouldn't punish them for it. That is the time they need the most support and love. As far as I could see that is what Sarah was doing when they included Levi in their campaign and family life.

Levi has just screwed up the best thing he could have had going for him. I wouldn't be surprised if the Palins are classy enough to take him in again if he decides to come to his senses. The fact that he's not moosburger helper right now tells me a great deal.

306 Gella  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:17:13am

re: #295 SanFranciscoZionist

Me too. My sister in law's first husband was a Levi type. He's gone, and has had no interest in taking care of his daughter. Her second husband is daddy to her little girl, and he's a good one.

God willing, it will all work out for the best. :)

i hope so too
in my opinion, just because u donated a genetic material it won't make u a parent

307 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:17:20am

re: #289 Gella

The baby will have a couple good male role models in his life with his First Dude Grandpa, a soldier Uncle, and he's so close to Trig's age they'll likely be like brothers.

308 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:17:38am
309 irongrampa  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:17:38am

re: #273 DaddyG

310 Canoe Train  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:18:01am

re: #291 MandyManners

In this sort of situation, I most certainly would be demanding these tests. I'm not the least bit surprised if that is what he did.

311 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:18:35am

re: #297 Canoe Train

Sharmuta, I agree. Fathers are important. As important as mothers.

Where IS Baby Daddy's daddy?

312 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:18:39am

re: #303 calcajun

OK gang--nearly 300 posts on a sordid piece of news that means nothing and less that 100 over on China's web-bot attack on our electronic infrastructure. What's wrong with this picture?

China? Can't control it.
Own children? Do all we can to influence, inspire, and control.

That's my take...

313 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:18:52am

re: #297 Canoe Train

Why are you saying he should engage in a custody battle?

314 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:18:53am

re: #298 ilzito guacamolito

I have four girls myself, but they are age 10 and under. I fear for what awaits them in general as it relates to this country and the path I fear it is beginning to travel thanks to FCBBHO, et al and specifically as it relates to this topic of misogyny.

I hope for your sake you have multiple bathrooms! I know from whence I speak- ONE daughter with a single bathroom was a challenge for me! :-)

315 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:18:55am

i'm sure that not too many yrs. ago, maybe in the 1950's, this punk would have been a pariah. a shunned loser.
he would not have a national forum from which to degrade the mother of his child and her family.
it is just astounding how twisted our society has become.
sarah and her husband who are standing by their daughter, caring for her and her baby are the subject of this derelict's slanderous spew.
as if their family concern is the problem and scorn worthy.
that's fcked up.

316 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:19:02am

re: #299 aRedPhishHead

* * * *
What double standard? We don't see no double standard!

317 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:19:23am

re: #303 calcajun

OK gang--nearly 300 posts on a sordid piece of news that means nothing and less that 100 over on China's web-bot attack on our electronic infrastructure. What's wrong with this picture?

Idiot administration fatigue.

318 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:19:25am

re: #283 LGoPs

Shallow? I'd love to see your definiton of the depth of achievements of our POTUS.

In defense of Dainn I think he was referring to the medias narrative of Sarah Palin.

What I take issue with is Dainn's line:

I'm no fan of Palin. I disagree with her on most of the social issues.

Her social issues are those issues created by this media he so scorns. WTF?

319 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:19:28am

re: #310 Canoe Train

In this sort of situation, I most certainly would be demanding these tests. I'm not the least bit surprised if that is what he did.

So you'd be okay telling the world you think your girlfriend is a slut?

320 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:20:11am

re: #303 calcajun

OK gang--nearly 300 posts on a sordid piece of news that means nothing and less that 100 over on China's web-bot attack on our electronic infrastructure. What's wrong with this picture?

* * * *
Well presumably our crack Commander In Chief is handling the "preserve, protect and defend" part of his job.

321 bloodnok  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:20:27am

re: #308 essayons7

Yawn.

Thanks for letting us know. Really. Why don't you head over to a thread that doesn't make you tired?

322 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:20:34am

re: #303 calcajun

OK gang--nearly 300 posts on a sordid piece of news that means nothing and less that 100 over on China's web-bot attack on our electronic infrastructure. What's wrong with this picture?

timing is everything

323 Drained Brain  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:20:51am

Say, what's new with that friend of Biden's daughter, you, know, the amateur videographer? Is CNN providing slavish multiple-article-type coverage, repeated by certain political blogs? Will he soon appear on Tyra whatever-her-name is? Gee, whatever happened to him? Surely not Gitmo?

Just wondering, but not holding my breath....

324 Dave the.....  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:21:00am
Didn't Biden's daughter get caught on video recently doing blow?

Two local papers. Last fall, one had a daily bash-Palin column. On page 03 usually. Everyday.

Other one would do a mid-day newstory on their online edition. Everyday. That one now has a bash-Palin story about twice a week on their online edition.

Neither paper covered slow Joe Biden's daughter snorting coke on video story. It must not be news.

325 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:21:03am

re: #315 nyc redneck

i'm sure that not too many yrs. ago, maybe in the 1950's, this punk would have been a pariah. a shunned loser.

In the 1950s, Bristol would be married, with a 'premature' baby, or hidden away, and if word got out, any Palin campaign would have been over.

Times have gotten better in some ways.

326 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:21:05am

re: #321 bloodnok


I thank you for your insightful response.

327 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:21:27am

re: #318 unrealizedviewpoint

Her social issues are those issues created by this media he so scorns. WTF?

I think you're right. See my # 295. OldLineTexan pointed this out too.....

I do agree with your follow-on point however.

328 Canoe Train  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:21:51am

re: #319 MandyManners

No - but I would certainly be requesting the tests. I would not air the dirty laundry in public, though.

329 Drained Brain  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:22:09am

re: #299 aRedPhishHead

Didn't Biden's daughter get caught on video recently doing blow?

Let's see if I got this "moral calculus" correct:

Levi Johnston: only mentioned because he dated the daughter of a former vice-presidential candidate, abandons child he fathered with said daughter, disgraces self and ex on national TV repeatedly by making accusations that may or may not be true against ex's family and mother of his unborn child, media plays up like it's an important and relevant story that warrants a significant amount of coverage for months after the election in which said candidate is no longer involved with.

Ashley Biden: Daughter of current Vice President of the United States (a man who coined the term "Drug Czar" and condemns those who do drugs to prison for the common good), caught on video this year at a party in Delaware doing lines of blow, was cited previously for marijuana possession in 1999 and was arrested for obstructing a police officer in 2002. This daughter of the Vice President of the United States is currently employed - at taxpayer expense - as social worker for children and families in Delaware. Nary a mention outside of gossip sites and a few Democrat blogs desperate to sweep it under the rug (she did blow, but she was set up!lol!)

Story 1: Important.
Story 2: Story?

Splendid.

Well said! I just made a similar comment before reading yours.

330 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:22:10am

re: #314 CIA Reject

I hope for your sake you have multiple bathrooms! I know from whence I speak- ONE daughter with a single bathroom was a challenge for me! :-)

It doesn't matter. We have 2 1/2 in our home and they just fill theirs with stuff and move into mine once they can't maneuver in theirs anymore.

331 UberInfidel67  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:22:26am

re: #319 MandyManners I'd bet my life that he WILL go for DNA testing. That way it will keep the Palins looking negative in the media. ANd someone with a shitload of money will be paying his legal fees. Gotta keep the story going dontcha know. I hope he trips up real bad and Bristol sues him for slander. Mind you I said Bristol, not Sarah.

332 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:22:30am

re: #314 CIA Reject

I hope for your sake you have multiple bathrooms! I know from whence I speak- ONE daughter with a single bathroom was a challenge for me! :-)


Multiple bathrooms AND the honeydipper's phone number on speed dial.

333 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:22:43am

re: #313 MandyManners

Why are you saying he should engage in a custody battle?

I think they think he wants to take responsibility....? I don't think he's interested, otherwise he wouldn't be giving the Palins the finger in public. No judge would side with this punk and give him the baby.

334 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:22:45am

re: #14 CIA Reject

Two words: "Book Deal".

Kind of difficult to author a book when you have difficulty reading, isn't it?

/

335 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:23:02am

re: #330 DaddyG

It doesn't matter. We have 2 1/2 in our home and they just fill theirs with stuff and move into mine once they can't maneuver in theirs anymore.

I feel your pain...

336 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:23:03am

re: #326 essayons7

Piss up a rope.

337 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:23:09am

re: #334 Conservative in Liberal Hands

LOL!

338 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:23:10am

re: #312 Oh no...Sand People!

China? Can't control it.
Own children? Do all we can to influence, inspire, and control.

That's my take...

You don't have kids, do you? I think we can influence China-- hell, even the tides, a lot easier than a teenager.//

339 irongrampa  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:23:15am

Having lived with 3 females (wife&2 daughters), I can say unequivocally that the male has absolutely NO control in any factor.
Both my daughters are happily married, thankfully.As my s/n indicates, we got grandkids.


re: #276 OldLineTexan

340 bloodnok  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:23:17am

re: #326 essayons7

I thank you for your insightful response.

I can see why you'd think it was insightful. I managed more than one word in my post.

341 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:23:29am

I'd like to see some corroboration regarding this - if any neighbors witnessed him being there as if he was a resident. I completely agree that this is not newsworthy material, and quite frankly, irrelevent to the world at large. That said, I see no reason to write his statements off just because such doesn't bode well for Sarah Palin's reputation as a 'squeaky clean conservative.'

342 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:23:32am

re: #332 ilzito guacamolito

Multiple bathrooms AND the honeydipper's phone number on speed dial.

Smart man!

343 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:23:34am

re: #323 Drained Brain

Say, what's new with that friend of Biden's daughter, you, know, the amateur videographer? Is CNN providing slavish multiple-article-type coverage, repeated by certain political blogs? Will he soon appear on Tyra whatever-her-name is? Gee, whatever happened to him? Surely not Gitmo?

Just wondering, but not holding my breath....

* * * *
Would be a shame if anything happened to his lawyer who was peddling the video. He was disappeared nice and fast.
Chicago style.
Emanuel's got friends.

344 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:24:00am

re: #267 Sharmuta

Not only is this stunt of his misogynistic, it's also misandry. Many men love being fathers, and would do anything for their child. This coldhearted act helps to serve those who want to trash fatherhood and manliness. It perpetuates the negative stereotype of fathers/men as deadbeats. Shame on him!

A thousand updings for you, if only I had them.

345 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:24:12am

re: #334 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Kind of difficult to author a book when you have difficulty reading, isn't it?

/

Ah, that leads to two more words: "Ghost Writer" :-)

346 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:24:13am

re: #328 Canoe Train

No - but I would certainly be requesting the tests. I would not air the dirty laundry in public, though.

The thing is, once the motion is filed with the court, it's public record.

347 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:24:47am

re: #336 MandyManners

Wow, such manners. I offended no one. I was commenting, in my own way, that this topic is probably the least important item that deserves comment today.

So, I am confronted with 2 nasty replies. I guess that's what the world has come to - if you can't see the person's face, you can dump on him/her.

In any case, I won't return the favor.

348 Dainn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:24:50am

re: #318 unrealizedviewpoint

Her social issues are those issues created by this media he so scorns. WTF?

I don't agree with Sarah Palin ON social issues, not her personal life issues. I treat Sarah Palin as a polical entity, not a Republican Paris Hilton, as the MSM seems to.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I think what is being done to Sarah Palin in the media is sad and sick.

349 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:24:52am

re: #342 CIA Reject

Smart man!


Me?

350 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:25:04am

re: #331 UberInfidel67

I'd bet my life that he WILL go for DNA testing. That way it will keep the Palins looking negative in the media. ANd someone with a shitload of money will be paying his legal fees. Gotta keep the story going dontcha know. I hope he trips up real bad and Bristol sues him for slander. Mind you I said Bristol, not Sarah.

What's libelous?

351 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:25:13am
352 Canoe Train  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:25:35am

re: #267 Sharmuta

I could not have written this any better, Sharmuta.

353 UberInfidel67  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:25:40am

re: #345 CIA Reject
If anything...he should be talking to the Ghost Whisperer. lol

354 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:26:02am

re: #333 Sharmuta

I think they think he wants to take responsibility....? I don't think he's interested, otherwise he wouldn't be giving the Palins the finger in public. No judge would side with this punk and give him the baby.

Surely not if he's living with his mother, accused of dealing drugs.

355 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:26:12am

re: #347 essayons7

Wow, such manners. I offended no one. I was commenting, in my own way, that this topic is probably the least important item that deserves comment today.

So, I am confronted with 2 nasty replies. I guess that's what the world has come to - if you can't see the person's face, you can dump on him/her.

In any case, I won't return the favor.

Then don't comment.

356 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:26:17am

re: #341 eclectic infidel

I'd like to see some corroboration regarding this - if any neighbors witnessed him being there as if he was a resident. I completely agree that this is not newsworthy material, and quite frankly, irrelevent to the world at large. That said, I see no reason to write his statements off just because such doesn't bode well for Sarah Palin's reputation as a 'squeaky clean conservative.'

How is it a scandal if he was staying with his future inlaws?

357 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:26:52am

re: #325 SanFranciscoZionist

In the 1950s, Bristol would be married, with a 'premature' baby, or hidden away, and if word got out, any Palin campaign would have been over.

Times have gotten better in some ways.


my point is that the pos should be shunned today, as he would have been yrs. ago.
look at all the attention he is getting for the truly vile behavior he is engaging in.
i'm not even focusing on the campaign.

358 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:27:01am

re: #328 Canoe Train

No - but I would certainly be requesting the tests. I would not air the dirty laundry in public, though.

* * * *
I for one am glad Monica Lewinsky kept the "dirty laundry."

Otherwise, Clinton would have gotten away with his Democrat-bestowed right to privacy and sex in the Oval Office.

359 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:27:06am

re: #351 Iron Fist

What's his name, Gary Condit, probably killed a girl.

No, he did not. There has been an arrest in that case and it was not the former Congressman.

360 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:27:08am

re: #351 Iron Fist

Let's put this in perspective. Ted Kennedy killed a girl. One of his cousins is doing time for killing a girl. What's his name, Gary Condit, probably killed a girl.

That is how the Democrats promote women's rights.

Now, about William Jefferson Clinton...

(The Democrats attack kids that are tangentially related to their real target. The fucking Republicans won't take the fight to the enemy at all. If they would, Ted Kennedy would be history.)

Remember William Kennedy Smith?

361 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:27:11am

re: #355 ilzito guacamolito

Ah, but you see, it's still a free country, and I can comment on whatever I feel the need to.

362 UberInfidel67  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:27:19am

re: #350 MandyManners
Nothing yet, that is why I said I was waiting for him to trip up. All the pats on the back he is getting from the media, his head is gonna swell and he is gonna start spouting off shit that he can't back up. I am just waiting for it.

363 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:27:31am

re: #327 LGoPs

I think you're right. See my # 295. OldLineTexan pointed this out too.....

I do agree with your follow-on point however.

I'd love to know what social issues of Sarah's he so dislikes?

364 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:27:48am

re: #254 DaddyG


I hope the GOP brings Palin back in 2012 as well - and Jindal runs with her. Two staunch anti-abortionists telling women that they'll be forced to have pregnancies they don't want, promoting creationism at the national level, and actually arguing that the invisible hand of Adam Smith with 'correct the market.' By all means, let 'em run!

365 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:27:48am

re: #349 ilzito guacamolito

Me?

Anybody who would have such foresight ...

366 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:27:57am

re: #347 essayons7

Wow, such manners. I offended no one. I was commenting, in my own way, that this topic is probably the least important item that deserves comment today.

So, I am confronted with 2 nasty replies. I guess that's what the world has come to - if you can't see the person's face, you can dump on him/her.

In any case, I won't return the favor.

You just did. In an admittedly more polished but verbose way than Mandy.

Your smug is showing.

367 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:27:59am

So why hasn't he been sued for child support? At least his child could benefit financially from all the money he's making from these appearances.

368 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:28:19am

re: #357 nyc redneck

my point is that the pos should be shunned today, as he would have been yrs. ago.
look at all the attention he is getting for the truly vile behavior he is engaging in.
i'm not even focusing on the campaign.

Oh, I quite agree. Actually, I think Todd Palin should let Piper 'accidentally' run him over with a snowmobile, and failing that, I think the media should refuse to touch this.

369 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:28:21am

re: #359 calcajun

No, he did not. There has been an arrest in that case and it was not the former Congressman.

Isn't it a man who's already doing time?

370 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:28:22am

re: #354 MandyManners

Surely not if he's living with his mother, accused of dealing drugs.

Well, yeah and taking the baby away from the governor's house. Not likely.

371 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:28:52am

re: #351 Iron Fist

Condit's now been cleared. A convicted felon now has confessed to Levy's murder.

372 ladycatnip  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:28:56am

#134 DaddyG

...I also wonder if my daughters will find good young men that are willing to wait until marriage to be intimate.

Good men are out there - the operative word being men. Our adult daughter found one because she held the line through college and grad school, then met a fabulous man who also has degrees up the ying yang. She said one of the best decisions she's made was not jumping into a relationship in her early twenties.

Pays to wait until the boys grow up.

373 Dave the.....  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:29:05am

#364 EI

I hope the GOP brings Palin back in 2012 as well - and Jindal runs with her. Two staunch anti-abortionists telling women that they'll be forced to have pregnancies they don't want, promoting creationism at the national level, and actually arguing that the invisible hand of Adam Smith with 'correct the market.' By all means, let 'em run!


Hey, me too!

Except for the part about forcing women to have unprotected sex.

374 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:29:07am

re: #361 essayons7

Ah, but you see, it's still a free country, and I can comment on whatever I feel the need to.

But it is so unimportant after all. Why waste your time?

375 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:29:25am

re: #369 MandyManners

Yep. Another immigrant of questionable documentation.

376 Pupdawg  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:29:51am

Finally, something worthy of the Matrix (that which is commonly known as) the MSM's total attention.

/Godzilla-sized sarc

377 bloodnok  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:29:54am

re: #347 essayons7

Okay. There have been too many thread derailments over the past few days, and I'm not going to be found guilty of putting pennies on the tracks.

It's not news. We get it.

Back to the topic.

378 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:29:57am

re: #348 Dainn

I don't agree with Sarah Palin ON social issues, not her personal life issues. I treat Sarah Palin as a polical entity, not a Republican Paris Hilton, as the MSM seems to.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I think what is being done to Sarah Palin in the media is sad and sick.

What social issues are you referring. Please provide multiple examples.

379 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:30:02am

re: #362 UberInfidel67

Nothing yet, that is why I said I was waiting for him to trip up. All the pats on the back he is getting from the media, his head is gonna swell and he is gonna start spouting off shit that he can't back up. I am just waiting for it.

Libel trials can get really messy. He sounds judgment-proof so Bristol would be taking on a MFM outlet.

380 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:30:04am

re: #365 CIA Reject

Anybody who would have such foresight ...

Then it would be smart woman!

381 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:30:24am

re: #366 DaddyG

I disagree. My response was merely an observation. I didn't tell anyone to "piss up a rope", nor did I imply that anyone has the mental faculty of a 3 year old (based on the number of words in their reply).

All my first post said was "yawn" - meaning I felt the topic is less than stellar, considering Palin bashing has become a popular pastime.

382 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:30:46am

re: #360 MandyManners

Oh, he only raped a girl--but she wanted it. Uncle Ted was upstairs smashing beer cans against his head.

383 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:31:00am

re: #341 eclectic infidel

I'd like to see some corroboration regarding this - if any neighbors witnessed him being there as if he was a resident. I completely agree that this is not newsworthy material, and quite frankly, irrelevent to the world at large. That said, I see no reason to write his statements off just because such doesn't bode well for Sarah Palin's reputation as a 'squeaky clean conservative.'

In my new found crusade to confront the predominant double standard in this country, I would like to ask if it is ok to also refer to "committed radical leftists" and more importantly to point out when these tribunes of the little guy act in ways that contradict their preaching. as in when they don't pay their own taxes. As in when they destroy the little people standing in their way as the Clinton's did with the Travel Office staff and assorted women. If we're going to have a standard it needs to apply equally. Otherwise we have exactly what we've come to in today's America.

384 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:31:45am

re: #374 ilzito guacamolito

Just engaging in conversation, that's all. I assume we're all here for that purpose.

A polite reply was all that was necessary. That's all I'm saying.

385 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:31:49am

re: #274 Dainn

MILF? Care to explain?

386 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:31:50am

re: #356 SanFranciscoZionist

How is it a scandal if he was staying with his future inlaws?

There is no scandal with respect to that. It's really a he said, she said scenario but if it can be shown that he wasn't living there, it will seriously weaken the validity of his comments. That's all.

387 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:32:01am

re: #380 ilzito guacamolito

Then it would be smart woman!

I stand corrected! My apologies ma'am.

388 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:32:17am

re: #364 eclectic infidel

I hope the GOP brings Palin back in 2012 as well - and Jindal runs with her. Two staunch anti-abortionists telling women that they'll be forced to have pregnancies they don't want, promoting creationism at the national level, and actually arguing that the invisible hand of Adam Smith with 'correct the market.' By all means, let 'em run!


Are you for real or did you forget your sarc tag? Forced to have pregnancies!? Women and men have every alternative from not screwing in the first place to adoption to legal abortion (which the president is not going to change even if they wanted to).

Palin was very clear that her religious beliefs about creationism were not going to influence her public policy choices.

You would have eliminated Thomas Jefferson from consideration as President with that kind of logic.

389 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:32:31am

re: #371 quickjustice

Condit's now been cleared. A convicted felon now has confessed to Levy's murder.

Yeah, he can get in line with Ted Stevens for a do-over election.

390 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:33:10am

re: #385 quickjustice

MILF? Care to explain?

= Moms I'd Like To F***

391 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:33:13am

re: #351 Iron Fist

* * * *
Amen, Iron Fist.

Except some Salvadoran illegal probably killed Chandra Levy, while Rep. Gary Condit was a sleezebag who acted like one in denying his affair with Ms. Levy.

When I was young & naive, Democrats appeared to care about women, or at least TALKED ABOUT themselves caring for women.

Their sexist mysoginy was out there hidden in plain sight. Here's a haiku for Hyannis Kennedys:

Camelot Mystique
Masking a philanderer
We didn't know Jack

392 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:33:18am

Adam Smith was of the constrained vision.

393 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:33:26am

re: #385 quickjustice

MILF? Care to explain?

Mom I'd Like To...well you get it.

Term for an older woman or woman with children one finds sexy.

394 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:33:26am

re: #338 calcajun

You don't have kids, do you? I think we can influence China-- hell, even the tides, a lot easier than a teenager.//

Yup. 2.

395 avanti  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:33:49am

As a social liberal, it's none of my business. Even if Palin knew her daughter was sexually active with her long term boyfriend and let him stay with her, it's not my concern. As Jefferson said on a different subject, "It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg."

396 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:34:16am

re: #387 CIA Reject

I stand corrected! My apologies ma'am.


It WAS pretty presumptuous of you to assume especially in light of the topic of this thread.
/
;-)

397 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:34:32am

re: #385 quickjustice

It is a vulgarism--an anagram for "Mothers I'd like..." You can figure out the rest. Frankly, terms like that really coarsen the discourse.

398 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:34:37am

re: #361 essayons7

Ah, but you see, it's still a free country, and I can comment on whatever I feel the need to.

Why is it that "It's still a free country" is almost an universal prefix to unadulterated idiocy?

399 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:35:19am

re: #373 Dave the.....

#364 EI


Hey, me too!

Except for the part about forcing women to have unprotected sex.

*laughs* Sometimes I do miss arguing with "pro-lifers." Not today though.

400 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:35:21am

re: #398 DaddyG
You prove my point. Having a bad day today?

401 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:35:38am

re: #390 unrealizedviewpoint

I know what the letters stand for. I was just curious as to why one of our commentators would apply the term, disparagingly, to Sarah Palin, or to anyone else.

402 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:36:00am

re: #364 eclectic infidel

I hope the GOP brings Palin back in 2012 as well - and Jindal runs with her. Two staunch anti-abortionists telling women that they'll be forced to have pregnancies they don't want, promoting creationism at the national level, and actually arguing that the invisible hand of Adam Smith with 'correct the market.' By all means, let 'em run!

* * * *
thanks for sharing your honest opinion///

403 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:36:19am
404 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:36:21am

re: #394 Oh no...Sand People!

HA. Amateur. Dilettante. Try four and see how you like it--and three are teens now. My scotch consumption is increasing in a geometric rate.

405 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:36:33am

Enjoy your respective weekends everyone.
Good afternoon!

406 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:37:02am

re: #401 quickjustice

I know what the letters stand for. I was just curious as to why one of our commentators would apply the term, disparagingly, to Sarah Palin, or to anyone else.

Because it's still open Palin season. Another 3-months (no permits needed).

407 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:37:13am

re: #381 essayons7

I disagree. My response was merely an observation. I didn't tell anyone to "piss up a rope", nor did I imply that anyone has the mental faculty of a 3 year old (based on the number of words in their reply).

All my first post said was "yawn" - meaning I felt the topic is less than stellar, considering Palin bashing has become a popular pastime.

Nice try but I wouldn't have used the word verbose to imply your wordiness indicated the mental faculty of a 3 year old. If you have to make up insults to respond too then you clearly aren't persecuted enough to gain the status of victimhood you are seeking.

408 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:37:26am

re: #378 unrealizedviewpoint

What social issues are you referring. Please provide multiple examples.

Since when did Palin start ramming her social views down any ones throat? She and I might disagree on some issues (such as abortion) but I don't see her getting in anyone's face about it or being dogmatic. I am far more concerned with the creeping Socialization of this country and our returning to a pre 9/11 mindset. I happily voted for Reagan even though I disagreed with him on abortion and the last time I checked, abortion was still legal in America.

409 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:37:46am

re: #403 Iron Fist

Got a link? They found her body basically where everyone expected her body to be. Condit had quit by that time.

QWWho was it and why? I have seen nothing on either question.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It's Wiki, but it's at CNN, too.

410 Hengineer  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:38:01am

It just seems like a reason to have 15 minutes of fame, thats it.

411 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:38:59am

re: #408 Joel

Since when did Palin start ramming her social views down any ones throat? She and I might disagree on some issues (such as abortion) but I don't see her getting in anyone's face about it or being dogmatic. I am far more concerned with the creeping Socialization of this country and our returning to a pre 9/11 mindset. I happily voted for Reagan even though I disagreed with him on abortion and the last time I checked, abortion was still legal in America.

Thank you Joel!

412 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:39:05am

re: #407 DaddyG
I never implied I was a victim - that's your viewpoint. I was merely responding to the nasty replies I got. Perhaps, if they stopped, things could move on...

413 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:39:09am
414 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:39:28am

re: #400 essayons7

You prove my point. Having a bad day today?

Proved what point? That you expect civility you don't extend to others and then defend it with juvenile statements about freedom to post condescending statements on someone elses private blog?

And no I don't feel any responsibility to be a great deal more civil than you in my posts.

415 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:39:45am

re: #388 DaddyG

Are you for real or did you forget your sarc tag? Forced to have pregnancies!? Women and men have every alternative from not screwing in the first place to adoption to legal abortion (which the president is not going to change even if they wanted to).

Palin was very clear that her religious beliefs about creationism were not going to influence her public policy choices.

You would have eliminated Thomas Jefferson from consideration as President with that kind of logic.

I don't trust creationists - Sarah Palin included. I don't believe her. I also don't trust pro-lifers who believe that abortion is actually murder. Anyway, as you probably guessed, I'm not a lizard who is a fan of the GOP or of some so-called conservative values.

416 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:40:32am

re: #414 DaddyG

Apparenty you don't feel any need to be civil AT ALL. Yikes.

417 formercorpsman  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:40:39am

My opinion.

As much as we would like to have genuine influence over our loved ones, and really the bad choices they make, fate sees to it, often we do not.

She is young, he is young, and being young essentially means making mistakes. This mistake, albeit a large one with life long ramifications, not only involves the two of them, but others around them whether they like it or not.

I feel I can still have my moral code, despite what some may see as a contradiction, and have sympathy for those in this mess, not really able to have their say.

Overall, I think like most people here, we are just tired of the double standard every freaking day. Whether you agree with Palin as a politician or not, if you can't see the media, and political opponents placed a bullseye on her & her family, as some sort of sophomoric pseudo-political bloodsport, you are are blind.

I have never cared for either side having their families pulled into the nasty rhetoric. If you decide to jump in, fair game, happenstance, no.

Furthermore, I think what we are seeing with this young man, is the byproduct of a society lost from what I yearn for. A return to honor. Recalling a place and time, when we kept a poker face despite whatever trump card we thought we had.

Young men were actually raised like this. Young women for the most part elected to keep their honor intact at least until they made up their mind first as to the character of a future mate, instead of relying on pure primal instincts.

I feel for this child most of all. One day, they will be old enough to know the reality of what is happening right now. It will be available. They have no say in it, yet will be affected by it.

Do you think anyone feeding into this now really cares what that result will be?

418 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:40:54am

re: #415 eclectic infidel

I don't trust creationists - Sarah Palin included. I don't believe her. I also don't trust pro-lifers who believe that abortion is actually murder. Anyway, as you probably guessed, I'm not a lizard who is a fan of the GOP or of some so-called conservative values.

Your brush is too damn broad for my liking.

419 HippieforLife  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:41:59am

re: #274 Dainn

I'm sure Governor Palin will be glad to hear you think she is a "MILF".

Classy. Not!

420 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:42:03am

re: #395 avanti

As a social liberal, it's none of my business. Even if Palin knew her daughter was sexually active with her long term boyfriend and let him stay with her, it's not my concern. As Jefferson said on a different subject, "It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg."

* * * *
Your social liberal friends are awfully busy MAKING IT their business.

Puritans used to put people in stocks for premarital sex. Now democrats do it to people they don't LIKE. My my my. Surprise Surprise Surprise.

421 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:42:35am

re: #411 unrealizedviewpoint

Your welcome. I get so tired of people obsessing over issues that a POTUS in actuality will have zero control over. The POTUS is not a dictator that can rule by fiat. Laura Ingraham and at times Michelle Malkin get on my nerves with their "pro life" litmus tests for some politicians. I think that Giuliani would have made an excellent VP choice for McCain - might have gotten some dumb FDR besotted Jews to actually vote GOP - but because he had the temerity to not want to throw young girls into jail who had abortions, he was ruled verboten.

422 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:43:09am
423 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:43:42am

re: #403 Iron Fist

Got a link? They found her body basically where everyone expected her body to be. Condit had quit by that time.

QWWho was it and why? I have seen nothing on either question.

* * * *
A guy called Ingomar Guandique who was in jail in California for having attacked other women the same way, in the same part of Rockcreek Park in DC.

424 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:43:55am

re: #421 Joel

- might have gotten some dumb FDR besotted Jews to actually vote GOP - but because he had the temerity to not want to throw young girls into jail who had abortions, he was ruled verboten.


That's going to be my next nic. "Dumb FDR-Besotted Jew". Do you think it's too long?

425 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:44:02am

re: #419 HippieforLife

I'm sure Governor Palin will be glad to hear you think she is a "MILF".

Classy. Not!

Eminem has new music vid you'd enjoy.
*spit*

426 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:44:10am

re: #412 essayons7

I never implied I was a victim - that's your viewpoint. I was merely responding to the nasty replies I got. Perhaps, if they stopped, things could move on...

Try less nasty or condescending posts if you want nice replies. Clue: going on to a blog and posting the word "Yawn" is seen by other commenters as being rude and condescending. You may expect a bit of blow-back when you do that.

And you definitely implied victim hood when you had to take my comment that you were more verbose than Mandy (most of us are) and exaggerate it by saying I accused you of the intellect of a 3 year old.

Is that clear or will I be treated to another round of rationalization?

427 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:44:25am

re: #425 unrealizedviewpoint

sorry, not you, dainn that is

428 Dainn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:46:16am

re: #378 unrealizedviewpoint

What social issues are you referring. Please provide multiple examples.

- Stem Cell Research
- Belief that ID/Creationism is a valid scientific theory (though I know she hasn't pushed this issue into her policy, I disagree with her on the subject)
- No support for anything but a traditional marriage

Social issues are not big on my list of important things in politics. I believe that Republicans have gotten rapped around an axle on issues like abortion and gay marriage and because of this have alienated a large section of the moderates, allowing someone inexperienced like Obama to get elected.

In fact, it is almost entirely on social issues that the progressives come after Sarah Palin, probably because when they can spin something to make a conservative look hypocritical, they can't resist. Now if a Biden does something....well girls will be girls...

429 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:46:22am

re: #424 SanFranciscoZionist

That's going to be my next nic. "Dumb FDR-Besotted Jew". Do you think it's too long?

I don't know but I hope it is not an accurate description of you!

430 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:46:37am

re: #426 DaddyG

Well, didn't mean to offend. If that is the case then my apologies.

431 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:46:51am

re: #415 eclectic infidel

I don't trust creationists - Sarah Palin included. I don't believe her. I also don't trust pro-lifers who believe that abortion is actually murder. Anyway, as you probably guessed, I'm not a lizard who is a fan of the GOP or of some so-called conservative values.

Palin never ran on the creationist stance and to my knowledge didn't try to change Alaska education standards to reflect them. Those were personal beliefs that she shared in Church.

Lizards can correct me if I am ignorant here- but I never caught on that she was a creationist who insisted others believe her private religion or teach it in schools.

Insisting others share our beliefs accross the board in their private lives (no matter how craze we thing they are) is a dangerous litmus test for any political candidate.

432 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:46:51am

re: #424 SanFranciscoZionist

That's going to be my next nic. "Dumb FDR-Besotted Jew". Do you think it's too long?

LOL.......

433 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:47:12am
434 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:47:22am

re: #411 unrealizedviewpoint

Thank you Joel!

* * * *
Thank you Joel, it's true. That's the strawman subject they deploy to demonstrate they CARE about women. Until women go off their reservation.

Pink Condoms Marked "Protect Yourself From John McCain", scary!

435 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:47:51am

re: #429 Joel

I don't know but I hope it is not an accurate description of you!

Well, I like to think I'm quite bright...

436 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:48:34am

re: #416 essayons7

Apparenty you don't feel any need to be civil AT ALL. Yikes.

There you go enjoying your victimhood again.

I think our respective track records speak for themselves.

Although I do enjoy playing with trolls (there now that was a bit uncivil - enjoy the bone I just threw you).

437 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:49:32am

re: #421 Joel

Hard to tell whom you insulted more-- Giuliani or Jews. I thought Giuliani's Jewish supporters to be astute.

438 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:50:16am

re: #430 essayons7

Well, didn't mean to offend. If that is the case then my apologies.

* * * *
Yawning as you did on this blog, is boorish in polite company.

439 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:50:23am

re: #419 HippieforLife

I'm sure Governor Palin will be glad to hear you think she is a "MILF".

Classy. Not!

Yeah! Show some decorum.

It's Governor ILF to you!

//

440 Dainn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:50:48am

re: #385 quickjustice

MILF? Care to explain?

Yeah. I regret making that statement as people here didn't get what I meant. Here is a translation:

The media is selling Sarah Palin as a stereotype, the policial version of a character from Desperate Housewives. They can't/won't understand her; they have a narrative now and they'll stick to it. And the word MILF accurately describes what THEY want to sell her as being.

441 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:51:00am

re: #438 alegrias
I had no idea.

442 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:51:21am

re: #434 alegrias

* * * *
Thank you Joel, it's true. That's the strawman subject they deploy to demonstrate they CARE about women. Until women go off their reservation.

Pink Condoms Marked "Protect Yourself From John McCain", scary!

I am singularly uninterested in any ones sex life (except my own). I am a traditionalist regarding marriage but would not lose a minutes sleep if gays could get married. I think the classroom ought to be reserved for science.
I do care about the hyper inflation coming our way in a year or two that will be part of Obambi's stimulus plan.

443 calcajun  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:51:23am

re: #422 Iron Fist

Oh, he is a putz, to be sure. His interview with Connie Chung killed him. He came across so poorly on that show that his political career collapsed.

444 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:51:30am

re: #436 DaddyG
I'll only say that I'm not a troll.

445 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:51:34am

re: #428 Dainn

- Stem Cell Research
- Belief that ID/Creationism is a valid scientific theory (though I know she hasn't pushed this issue into her policy, I disagree with her on the subject)
- No support for anything but a traditional marriage

Social issues are not big on my list of important things in politics. I believe that Republicans have gotten rapped around an axle on issues like abortion and gay marriage and because of this have alienated a large section of the moderates, allowing someone inexperienced like Obama to get elected.

In fact, it is almost entirely on social issues that the progressives come after Sarah Palin, probably because when they can spin something to make a conservative look hypocritical, they can't resist. Now if a Biden does something....well girls will be girls...

-Stem cell is a non-issue.
-ID/Creationism - you your self say she hasn't pushed. So that's a non-issue too.
-Traditional marriage another non-issue as all politicians support traditional marriage.
Wow, ya got nothing. You say her social policies are the problem. But then you say they are not.
Yikes. I'm moving on.

446 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:52:18am

re: #431 DaddyG

Palin may be a creationist, but she never advocated for forcing creationism stuff on public school children. That's the litmus test, I think.

447 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:53:05am

re: #433 Iron Fist

So then, why was Condit so, unforthcoming during his interviews with the cops?

If I've learned anything over the last thirty years, it is you tell the cops the truth. It really doesn't pay to do anything else.

I think he got caught in the affair, and panicked. He looked terrible, he knew he looked terrible, and no one (myself included) was really entertaining any idea that he wasn't guilty.

It was stupid of him not to be more forthcoming. I think he may have imagined that the killer would be caught soon, and hoped he could keep some things from getting to the press.

Total dumbass.

448 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:53:38am

re: #441 essayons7

I had no idea.

That explains a lot.
It is hard to read others intent on blogs and I apologize for continuing the snarkiness of my response seeing that was not your intent.

449 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:53:48am

re: #433 Iron Fist

So then, why was Condit so, unforthcoming during his interviews with the cops?

If I've learned anything over the last thirty years, it is you tell the cops the truth. It really doesn't pay to do anything else.

* * *
Iron Fist,

Condit's sleezy denial of his affair with a disappeared young intern is standard democrat stonewalling on their double standards.

Basically "I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Chandra Levy".

He can rot wherever he is, in my opinion. Chandra's father the oncologist saved my uncle, and they suffered more because of Condit's lying pathetic self-preservation tactics.

450 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:54:15am

re: #437 quickjustice

Hard to tell whom you insulted more-- Giuliani or Jews. I thought Giuliani's Jewish supporters to be astute.

I am Jewish and was a proud Giuliani supporter - the more religious a Jew you are (I happen to be secular) or pro Israel a Jew you are - the more pro Giuliani you would tend to be. Upper West Side, New York Tiems loving, Jews would not vote for him.

451 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:54:58am

re: #439 DaddyG

That's actually funny, but actual lust is not what he intended. He called her a "shallow MILF", which imports something quite different.

452 avanti  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:55:45am

re: #420 alegrias

* * * *
Your social liberal friends are awfully busy MAKING IT their business.

Puritans used to put people in stocks for premarital sex. Now democrats do it to people they don't LIKE. My my my. Surprise Surprise Surprise.

Social liberals don't care about bedroom behavior, look at slick Willie Clinton's popularity while the conservative brains were exploding. We knew Clinton was a womanizer, and did not care. The only time it makes news is when a do-gooder is caught in a scandal and we run sinners most of the time.
I admit I was surprised to see the religious right act like social liberals about a out of wedlock baby, it did seem a little out of character. It was odd to see the conservatives defending premarital sex to the liberals.
Palin can not be held responsible for her daughters behavior unless you could show she was a crappy mother, and I saw no such evidence.

453 sifty  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:55:57am

Another day, another punk-ass kid that needs a few whacks with a belt.

454 Dainn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:56:07am

re: #445 unrealizedviewpoint

-Stem cell is a non-issue.
-ID/Creationism - you your self say she hasn't pushed. So that's a non-issue too.
-Traditional marriage another non-issue as all politicians support traditional marriage.
Wow, ya got nothing. You say her social policies are the problem. But then you say they are not.
Yikes. I'm moving on.


Naw you're just looking for someone to hit. Be my guest. I said I don't agree with her on social issues. I don't. You said be specific. I was. I voted for her.

Take a pill.

455 avanti  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:56:59am

re: #425 unrealizedviewpoint

Eminem has new music vid you'd enjoy.
*spit*

That video is tasteless, and although protected speech, is despicable.

456 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:57:40am

re: #404 calcajun

HA. Amateur. Dilettante. Try four and see how you like it--and three are teens now. My scotch consumption is increasing in a geometric rate.

Alas, they are not teens yet, but I will not have the 'scotch' as a comfort / tool to use as a coping mechanism...heh.

457 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:58:25am

re: #454 Dainn

Naw you're just looking for someone to hit. Be my guest. I said I don't agree with her on social issues. I don't. You said be specific. I was. I voted for her.

Take a pill.

No. I'm certainly not looking for someone to hit.
I pointed out early on that you bought into the media's spin on Sarah, and now I've proved it.

458 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:59:21am

re: #451 quickjustice

That's actually funny, but actual lust is not what he intended. He called her a "shallow MILF", which imports something quite different.

I'm just being bad.

Seriously I didn't ever understand the attraction to powerful men that so many women had until she campaigned. I was somewhat smitten by her charm and genuine good looks. Not to the Jimmah Carter Playboy interview lusting after women level but admiring without wanting nonetheless.

The US could do worse than to have an intelligent, principled Margaret Thatcher type who just happens to look great in heels.

459 Dave the.....  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:59:51am

Actually I think some of you misinterpreted Joel's comment on Jews. I believe he said what many of us say here, just much more crudely. That Jews vote Democratic without even thinking about what the candidates stand for.

460 Dainn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:01:12am

re: #455 avanti

That video is tasteless, and although protected speech, is despicable.

I saw (more than) everything I need to of that video on O"reilly last night. Eminem has made it to complete irrelevancy.

You know, I wonder if all this Palin-hate going on in pop culture will cause a backlash from the vast fair-minded middle of America. Here's hoping.

461 abolitionist  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:01:20am

re: #351 Iron Fist

Let's put this in perspective. Ted Kennedy killed a girl. One of his cousins is doing time for killing a girl. What's his name, Gary Condit, probably killed a girl.
[snip]

Chandra Levy murder solved?

Reports indicate the suspect told a fellow inmate he committed the murder.
462 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:01:55am

Todd Palin to young ashole...
"What ya say we take a top secret fishing trip"!

463 alegrias  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:02:03am

re: #452 avanti

Social liberals don't care about bedroom behavior, look at slick Willie Clinton's popularity while the conservative brains were exploding. We knew Clinton was a womanizer, and did not care. The only time it makes news is when a do-gooder is caught in a scandal and we run sinners most of the time.
I admit I was surprised to see the religious right act like social liberals about a out of wedlock baby, it did seem a little out of character. It was odd to see the conservatives defending premarital sex to the liberals.
Palin can not be held responsible for her daughters behavior unless you could show she was a crappy mother, and I saw no such evidence.

* * * *
Asshole. Social liberals such as you are having fun exploiting the actual consequences of sex IN THIS INSTANCE, and are helping to "punish the baby" by attacking the mother and the mother's baby.

Caring people are helping the young mother and her child deal with the facts of life and serious consequences of sex.

In future I will gaze your comments.

464 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:02:06am

re: #459 Dave the.....

Actually I think some of you misinterpreted Joel's comment on Jews. I believe he said what many of us say here, just much more crudely. That Jews vote Democratic without even thinking about what the candidates stand for.

Sounds like most voters.

465 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:02:36am

re: #452 avanti

I admit I was surprised to see the religious right act like social liberals about a out of wedlock baby, it did seem a little out of character. It was odd to see the conservatives defending premarital sex to the liberals.

Call for references - please show us where conservatives were defending premarital sex?! I saw a lot of people defending her choice to live with the consequences of her actions and not abort but never once heard someone say it is ok for the teenage daughter of a conservative politition to fornicate.

And for the record my head was exploding over Clintons selling missile tech to the Red Chinese. I didn't give a hoot about where he dangled his dongle in the white house.

466 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:02:47am

re: #459 Dave the.....

Actually I think some of you misinterpreted Joel's comment on Jews. I believe he said what many of us say here, just much more crudely. That Jews vote Democratic without even thinking about what the candidates stand for.

Thanks you. That is exactly how I meant it to be phrased. Jews would vote for a Arafat if he ran on the Democratic line.

467 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:02:48am

re: #458 DaddyG

Look, I think she's hot. MILF is a porn term. Dragging her into the gutter isn't an appropriate part of the discourse here. Love her or hate her, I don't think Palin deserves that.

468 Outrider  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:03:24am

re: #452 avanti

Social liberals don't care about bedroom behavior, look at slick Willie Clinton's popularity while the conservative brains were exploding. We knew Clinton was a womanizer, and did not care. The only time it makes news is when a do-gooder is caught in a scandal and we run sinners most of the time.
I admit I was surprised to see the religious right act like social liberals about a out of wedlock baby, it did seem a little out of character. It was odd to see the conservatives defending premarital sex to the liberals.
Palin can not be held responsible for her daughters behavior unless you could show she was a crappy mother, and I saw no such evidence.

It wasn't a question of defending premarital sex; the behavior was still condemned. It was a question of accepting the baby (as opposed to aborting it) and forgiving the daughter.

I do fail to see how a bitter ex boyfriend would be considered a viable and reliable source of information.

469 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:04:50am

re: #459 Dave the.....

Ethnic stereotyping sometimes is in order. Insulting Jews who voted for Giuliani (many of whom were Democrats) isn't in order in this context.

470 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:05:12am

re: #467 quickjustice

Look, I think she's hot. MILF is a porn term. Dragging her into the gutter isn't an appropriate part of the discourse here. Love her or hate her, I don't think Palin deserves that.

I see your point.

471 JohnnyReb  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:07:58am

re: #431 DaddyG

Palin never ran on the creationist stance and to my knowledge didn't try to change Alaska education standards to reflect them. Those were personal beliefs that she shared in Church.

Lizards can correct me if I am ignorant here- but I never caught on that she was a creationist who insisted others believe her private religion or teach it in schools.

Insisting others share our beliefs accross the board in their private lives (no matter how craze we thing they are) is a dangerous litmus test for any political candidate.

You are correct. The MSM was the one that claimed she tried to push ID for schools in Wassila when she was mayor, she did not. They are also the ones who started the "Palin is a book banner" crap also.

There was one screeching letter to the editor in my local LLL paper that said if she was elected she would as VP ban all abortions in the US. Thankfully, that woman got bi**h slapped in about 10 letters immediately after that.

I never have seen any source that said she wanted to enforce her personal religious views on anyone. Just a bunch of lies from the MSM.

472 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:08:04am

re: #452 avanti


I admit I was surprised to see the religious right act like social liberals about a out of wedlock baby, it did seem a little out of character. It was odd to see the conservatives defending premarital sex to the liberals.

How did the right act as social liberals? By accepting the reality of the pregnancy?
Defending premarital sex? Who made these defenses you speak to?

473 avanti  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:09:41am

re: #465 DaddyG

OK, clarification, they were defending Palin over her daughters premarital sex. I recall this was shortly after the younger sister of Brittney Spears came up pregnant and O'Reily blamed the parents and lots of right wing religious sites were all up in arms.
BTW, this is a issue I really care very little about and in hindsight should have ignored it, moving on.

474 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:15:34am

re: #364 eclectic infidel

I hope the GOP brings Palin back in 2012 as well - and Jindal runs with her. Two staunch anti-abortionists telling women that they'll be forced to have pregnancies they don't want, promoting creationism at the national level, and actually arguing that the invisible hand of Adam Smith with 'correct the market.' By all means, let 'em run!

Who jacked your nic?!

475 Dianna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:16:40am

re: #473 avanti

That is a really ridiculous statement. Really.

476 tex68  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:17:21am

I wonder how much he got paid to tell that lie?

477 slterry40  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:17:50am

I knew this guy was trouble the first time I layed eyes on him. How are high school girls so gullible?

478 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:18:17am

re: #384 essayons7

Just engaging in conversation, that's all. I assume we're all here for that purpose.

A polite reply was all that was necessary. That's all I'm saying.

OK, as I see it - you entered into the conversation with an extremely reud "Yawn" - and then expect . . . what?

People should say, Oh gee, it's great to see you, what have you been up to lately?

You set it up so that responses you got would be in the same vein as your initial "yawn".

479 formercorpsman  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:18:50am

re: #475 Dianna

Hilarious.

It is comical anymore.

480 Outrider  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:19:01am

re: #477 slterry40

I knew this guy was trouble the first time I layed eyes on him. How are high school girls so gullible?

Don't know. I sure didn't find that many gullible teen girls when I was in high school. ;-)>

481 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:20:10am

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Pretty active thread for a topic that most people claim to not care about.
Just sayin

Speaking just for myself, I simply became intrigued as to how you arrive at the conclusion that Sarah Palin, advocate for teen celibacy, is proved a "hypocrite" by her teenage daughter having sex.

So... is it that you think Sarah encouraged her daughter to have sex?

482 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:22:53am

re: #473 avanti

O'Reilly gave it a half-a segment. He got some flak and never mentioned it again. I don't recall right-wing noise.

483 avanti  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:23:02am

re: #475 Dianna

That is a really ridiculous statement. Really.

You are probably right. Palin has never big on my radar, and I only paid the most casual attention to the media hype from both sides. My impressions may be far off the mark compared to a Palin supporters.

484 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:23:53am

re: #481 Occasional Reader

Speaking just for myself, I simply became intrigued as to how you arrive at the conclusion that Sarah Palin, advocate for teen celibacy, is proved a "hypocrite" by her teenage daughter having sex.

So... is it that you think Sarah encouraged her daughter to have sex?

I also find Killgore's "take" on this odd.
After Bristol acknowledged the pregnancy, what could Palin have done to "prove" her lack of hypocrisy on this?

Kick Bristol out of the house? Make her disappear? Ignore her? Hide her? Of give her as much love and support as possible during what was a difficult time for all of them?

485 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:25:31am

My 2 cents worth: This young man is a fame whore.

486 Outrider  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:26:13am

Fact is, if Palin was not still a threat to the Democrat party she would have dropped from the media radar, except in Alaska, after the election. The fact the witch hunt and vilification continues illustrates she is still considered a viable threat.

487 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:26:53am

Johnston says "I porked her young daughter, got her pregnant at a really inconvenient time - and now she not being nice to me any more.
waaaaa."

Bristol - run - run like the wind. This guy is a loser.

488 HippieforLife  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:27:12am

re: #425 unrealizedviewpoint

You don't mean that I would enjoy that do you? I was replying to the poster who call Governor Palin a "MILF" which I think is disgusting!

I have seen a clip of that video and it is truly vile!

489 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:28:10am

re: #425 unrealizedviewpoint

Eminem has new music vid you'd enjoy.
*spit*

Eminem is a waste of human skin.

490 essayons7  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:28:39am

re: #448 DaddyG

Not to worry.

491 Outrider  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:29:14am

re: #484 reine.de.tout

I also find Killgore's "take" on this odd.
After Bristol acknowledged the pregnancy, what could Palin have done to "prove" her lack of hypocrisy on this?

Kick Bristol out of the house? Make her disappear? Ignore her? Hide her? Of give her as much love and support as possible during what was a difficult time for all of them?

She lived up to her values in her continued support of he daughter even knowing her daughters behavior cost her much in the election.

Funny how the electorate and media accept this behavior from politicians and their families from another political party with no more than a mention... if that.

492 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:31:12am

News organization hears the magic words: "Sarah Palin is a liar" & now, Johnston is a star. This should make a few people smile.

493 ladycatnip  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:33:30am

#484 reine.de.tout

I also find Killgore's "take" on this odd.
After Bristol acknowledged the pregnancy, what could Palin have done to "prove" her lack of hypocrisy on this?

Kick Bristol out of the house? Make her disappear? Ignore her? Hide her? Of give her as much love and support as possible during what was a difficult time for all of them?

When people don't know what to do with this sort of situation or have little understanding of grace and forgiveness, bantering words around like hypocrisy assuages their confusion. We know what the left wanted her to do - abort. Their collective heads were exploding when the Christian right graciously embraced Bristol and the Palin family.

494 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:34:50am

re: #488 HippieforLife

Absolutely not. Sorry.
PIMF
But who needs friends?

495 Filala  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:35:22am

re: #26 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's priceless, wish I had thought of it myself.

496 horse  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:37:08am

re: #225 Oh no...Sand People!

I understand this Levi went on these shows and is blasting the Palin's. What if any of what he says is true? Yes, he made a mistake, and admittedly Bristol is paying the major price.

Do we really think he doesn't care about his own child? Do we really think, I have my guesses, that he is 'truly' welcome in the Palin home? I bet he is walking on eggshells every second of the hours he spends there. I bet it is a horribly strained situation. It sucks for both sides, I am sure, but especially the poor baby.

You're joking, right? If he cared at all about the child, one little ounce, he would not be creating a digital diary of humiliation for the child's mother, and the child itself. His actions are demonstrating he only cares about himself. The child will be able to watch this digital history one day and see an obviously selfish father who would not man up and accept his responsibilities to create a supportive home. Yes it is tough, yes you could even say it's unfair, but you step up and do what must be done if you have any character and sense of what is right.

He appears as the kind of cad who would just naturally expect a young woman to get an abortion and alleviate them both from the responsibilities of an early parenthood. Perhaps it is his anger at his situation, along with a lack of internal discipline, that is fueling the immature actions on his part.

497 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:39:42am

re: #493 ladycatnip

#484 reine.de.tout

When people don't know what to do with this sort of situation or have little understanding of grace and forgiveness, bantering words around like hypocrisy assuages their confusion. We know what the left wanted her to do - abort. Their collective heads were exploding when the Christian right graciously embraced Bristol and the Palin family.

BINGO!
Exactly. Abort the baby and keep it quiet and no one would ever be the wiser, I guess, and Palin's support for teen celibacy would be pure and not "hypocritical" I suppose.

498 HippieforLife  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:39:50am

re: #494 unrealizedviewpoint

We all do. Thanks!

499 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:43:51am

I have some advise for 19 year old boys with raging hormones: Keep your damn pecker in your pants. I don't care how pretty and willing the girl is.
Have some restraint, junior.

500 kynna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:44:04am

re: #452 avanti

Social liberals don't care about bedroom behavior, look at slick Willie Clinton's popularity while the conservative brains were exploding. We knew Clinton was a womanizer, and did not care. The only time it makes news is when a do-gooder is caught in a scandal and we run sinners most of the time.
I admit I was surprised to see the religious right act like social liberals about a out of wedlock baby, it did seem a little out of character. It was odd to see the conservatives defending premarital sex to the liberals.
Palin can not be held responsible for her daughters behavior unless you could show she was a crappy mother, and I saw no such evidence.

Clinton was a democrat, therefore, he had a free pass for everything. And he did do some awfully sleazy womanizing.

Conservatives did not defend premarital sex to liberals. They pretty much told them to leave the family alone and quit lying about them and also to quit blaming Sarah Palin for her teenaged daughter's behavior. We did applaud both mom and daughter's decisions to carry their "inconvenient" babies to term and allow them to live. I think nothing pissed the left off more than that. No hypocrisy on the right, that I can see from that.

No, Palin doesn't seem to be a crappy mother. And she seems to be a very competent and talented governor who supports and fights for the rights of her constituents. Which is why the left will never stop piling on and celebrating the likes of Johnson.

501 libertexian  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:45:40am

Ah, to cut off one's own nuts so early in life.

502 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:47:49am

re: #452 avanti

We knew Clinton was a womanizer, and did not care.

We know.

503 kynna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:48:46am

Ya know, he might be telling the truth about "living" with them. His mom did go to the clink while he was still engaged to Bristol, so it's possible they let him move in for a bit. I mean ... telling him no is kind of like closing the barn door after the cow's out and he might have been in need.

504 Macker  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:51:30am

re: #76 Joel

[Deleted]

505 Bagua  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:53:43am

This is actualy an important story, it highlights the venality and bias of the MSM as they collude with their favored leaders to offer us "Bread and circuses."

Meanwhile Rome burns.

506 kynna  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:58:58am

re: #54 Killgore Trout

I really don't care about this story either but I think a lot of people are interested because she's an advocate for celibacy public policy instead of sex ed and contraception but she doesn't practice it in her private life. People get exited over perceived hypocrisy. I haven't been following the story because I already don't care for Palin so it doesn't effect me either way.

Actually, she supports both abstinence and contraceptive education.

507 lurking faith  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 11:59:17am

re: #503 kynna

Ya know, he might be telling the truth about "living" with them. His mom did go to the clink while he was still engaged to Bristol, so it's possible they let him move in for a bit. I mean ... telling him no is kind of like closing the barn door after the cow's out and he might have been in need.

That had occurred to me, too.
Plus, people should also keep in mind that there can be a very significant distinction between living in the house (if he did) and living with the girl. It's not clear to me which he is claiming; you can't trust reporters to quote anybody accurately.

508 Outrider  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:00:57pm

re: #502 FrogMarch

We know.

In other words, they accepted a POTUS that lied to his family and betrayed his wife. Then lied to the American people concerning the behavior. Then played lawyer before admitting it.

They willingly accepted a government employee (the POTUS) screwing around with a subordinate employee on government time, in the Oval Office.

But, that party accepts behavior like that and embraces it. Just ask Mayor "The bitch set me up" Barry.

509 Canoe Train  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:01:34pm

re: #480 Outrider

Me neither. Of course, where I went to high school, the response one received from a member of the opposite gender depended upon if one was the star athlete - or not.

510 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:02:05pm

re: #434 alegrias

* * * *
Thank you Joel, it's true. That's the strawman subject they deploy to demonstrate they CARE about women. Until women go off their reservation.

Pink Condoms Marked "Protect Yourself From John McCain", scary!

When what they should be handing out are packages of condoms and life jackets, labeled "Protect yourself from Ted Kennedy".

511 Outrider  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:03:58pm

re: #509 Canoe Train

Me neither. Of course, where I went to high school, the response one received from a member of the opposite gender depended upon if one was the star athlete - or not.

heh. In my case not. Played football and soccer, but was mediocre at both. In my favor? I did sweat a lot trying. lol

512 Outrider  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:04:30pm

re: #510 Kosh's Shadow

When what they should be handing out are packages of condoms and life jackets, labeled "Protect yourself from Ted Kennedy".

and for Gods sake..... don't let him give you a ride in his car.

513 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:06:22pm

re: #508 Outrider

In other words, they accepted a POTUS that lied to his family and betrayed his wife. Then lied to the American people concerning the behavior. Then played lawyer before admitting it.

They willingly accepted a government employee (the POTUS) screwing around with a subordinate employee on government time, in the Oval Office.

But, that party accepts behavior like that and embraces it. Just ask Mayor "The bitch set me up" Barry.

Indeed. The feminists were silent as well. Just another day in moral equivalent progressive America.

514 nikis-knight  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:07:28pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Pretty active thread for a topic that most people claim to not care about.
Just sayin

oh come now. How many times have you posted after saying you don't care?

515 kiwiviv  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:11:08pm

#217 Kilgore Trout

I care very much about this. The main thing for me is the response from the media, the Democrats, comedians and other hypocrites.

516 Zipity  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:11:09pm

Hmmmm...... Not to put too fine a point on it, but I'm not sure an immature, thinking-only-with-his-dick, girlfriend-impregnating, SOB should be considered an unimpeachable source of the truth.....

517 kiwiviv  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:13:24pm

#516 Zipity - well said

518 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:15:35pm

re: #493 ladycatnip

When people don't know what to do with this sort of situation or have little understanding of grace and forgiveness, bantering words around like hypocrisy assuages their confusion

The left LOVES throwing around the word "hypocrisy". Because if you have no moral standards yourself, you can never be guilty of it.

(I'm not referring to Killgore, here, but I did find his use of the word... inadvisable.)

519 kiwiviv  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:18:58pm

re: #518 Occasional Reader

Why "inadvisable?" If the shoe fits, then let them have it!

520 kiwiviv  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:24:29pm

In this case, the left are, indeed, supreme hypocrites - from:

-the women's groups who refuse to stand up for Palin bashing
-the press who constantly pick on Palin and entertain the "wanker" Levi Johnston
-the Democrats who constantly point out failings of Republicans but turn away when one of their own displays the most egregious of moral failings

521 nikis-knight  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:26:04pm

You know, if this guys mom was a drugie, perhaps the Palin's let him stay over so often to let him escape a bad home environment. If that's so, he's really stabbing them in the back.

522 kiwiviv  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:26:54pm

re: #521 nikis-knight

I agree - this is major back-stabbing - no matter what angle to look at it

523 Joel  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:32:07pm

re: #477 slterry40

I knew this guy was trouble the first time I layed eyes on him. How are high school girls so gullible?

I thought he was bad news too, even in that suit he wore at the GOP convention.

524 Joan Not of Arc  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:33:42pm

Do you want to know why I think he is lying? It's not just because Sarah Palin presents herself as sweet as sugar; it's because if he truly had a case, he would have hired a lawyer instead of splashing his and Bristol's private life on some trashy talk show. No one with a smoking gun would turn to some stupid talk show.
Of course, the popular press is lapping this up. If anyone knew how badly the Chosen One was running the country into the ground, there would be riots. Sideshow, quick!

525 wiffersnapper  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:49:20pm

What a jerk

526 jacksontn  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:52:21pm

First ... the kid (and I say kid because just because you can make a baby ... does not make you a man) ... is slime ...

Second ... this is news ... why? ... so it is okay for the media to have him on telling intimate details about Palin family ... but it was not okay to say Barack Hussien Obama during the election (but it is to him now an asset to use his middle name) ... we also could not ask about his Harvard records ... the PLO Banquet tape ... how he got into Harvard ... etc. etc. etc. ... the media has mainlined Obama and I am so sick of it ... these are kids ... kids ... how many times do we hear that the kids are off limits ... meanwhile our country is going down the socialist drain ... pathetic ...

Tit for Tat ... let's hear about Biden's daughter snorting coke ... asshats ... I could not give a rip about what Biden's daughter does but this crap on Pailin is just that crap ...

527 Querent  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:52:55pm

re: #499 FrogMarch

I have some advise for 19 year old boys with raging hormones: Keep your damn pecker in your pants. I don't care how pretty and willing the girl is.
Have some restraint, junior.

told my folks once, when we were all sitting around a dinner table trying to solve the world's problems, that 'we can legislate and educate girls until Ragnarok, but we will never make real progress in reducing teenage pregnancies until we succeed in teaching boys that they don't have to be studs in order to be men.'

sel-proclaimed liberal stepmother & her psychiatrist friend looked at each other in stunned silence, then agreed, y'know, Q's right.

528 docremulac  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 1:34:08pm

Can you imagine if conservatives had gone after Chelsie Clinton with the gusto with which liberals attack conservative's children as in this case?

This guy's a young kid in a troubled young relationship. The only reason it's news is because it's a weakness in a conservative opponent's life that can be exploited.

Liberals really are foul, repugnant pigs.

529 Simply Me  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 1:53:25pm

re: #274 Dainn

This is one more thread in the media narrative of Sarah Palin: she is a shallow MILF who is only interesting on the gossip columns. Whatever Palin really is, she has made an enemy of the media and they smell blood. She and her family won't get any rest.

I'm no fan of Palin. I disagree with her on most of the social issues. But what the media is doing to her is sick and sad. Think: when was the last news report you heard about any of her policies?

This is what we have reduced ourselves to. Daytime TV talkshows.


Hello? MILF? You are talking about the Governor Alaska. I think you are a misogynist to degrade her in this way.

530 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 3:22:02pm

All of the glassy magazines you see at the grocery store check out
show Obama and his wife in the best light with the best headline. Sarah, on the other hand, is always depicted as trailer trash. Obama is air-brushed while Sarah's wrinkles are always exaggerated.
Sarah is a nice looking woman, and yet the glossy magazines somehow always manage to make her look awful. /gee? - how does that happen?
Most glossy magazines are owned by Bill Clinton's pals.

531 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 3:22:25pm

re: #527 Querent

told my folks once, when we were all sitting around a dinner table trying to solve the world's problems, that 'we can legislate and educate girls until Ragnarok, but we will never make real progress in reducing teenage pregnancies until we succeed in teaching boys that they don't have to be studs in order to be men.'

sel-proclaimed liberal stepmother & her psychiatrist friend looked at each other in stunned silence, then agreed, y'know, Q's right.

Q is right.

532 TedStriker  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 3:23:11pm

re: #55 Da Coyote

Dude, that's a bit out of line...

533 hopperandadropper  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 3:35:19pm

This just shows how much the Left fears Sarah Palin. Otherwise why bother?

534 Hawaii69  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 3:38:08pm

re: #56 Son of the Black Dog

Bristol Palin appears to be the proverbial "good thing". This clown has messed that up. He is going to look at Bristol in 20 years, look at his then current SO (probably an ugly lowlife of limited intelligence) and think, "Man, did I ever screw up!"

Considering that he knocked a chick up when he was only 18, he'd probably be thinking the same thing
in 20 even if he'd married her.

535 Scorch  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 3:40:34pm

Ah to be 19 again, cocky and burning bridges he thinks he will never need again.

536 Ming  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 5:56:29pm

I voted for Reagan in 1980 and 1984, and I'm proud of those votes to this day. It horrifies me that Sarah Palin is considered by some to be a worthy successor to Ronald Reagan. We must face up to the fact that the nomination of Sarah Palin was a very bad mistake. Otherwise, I'm not sure what will happen with the Republicans, but believe me, "1994" isn't it.

537 Cato the Elder  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 7:31:07pm

re: #536 Ming

Amen.

538 h0mi  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:00:19pm

re: #528 docremulac

Can you imagine if conservatives had gone after Chelsie Clinton with the gusto with which liberals attack conservative's children as in this case?

Well we did see Rush Limbaugh refer to her as a dog, and we saw McCain refer to her as ugly because "her father was Janet Reno". I will point out though that both of those things happened in 1993 and neither of those hurt the GOP's chances in 1994, nor did that many people hold that against McCain when he ran for prez in 2000 or 2008. Beyond that though, not much was said about Chelsea since.

I really don't care about this story either but I think a lot of people are interested because she's an advocate for celibacy public policy instead of sex ed and contraception but she doesn't practice it in her private life.

When has Palin done this? This has been repeated ad nauseum but I haven't seen her upend sex education in Alaska as governor or as mayor of Wasilla and I've yet to see her agitate for an "abstinence only" sex ed plan. Public comments from her about this subject seem quite different- she supports teaching sex ed in school as well as about contraception.

539 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:26:00pm

I do care about this story. Every conservative should regardless of whether they support Palin or not.

It is emblematic of a new "shock and awe" phase in the politics of personal destruction. Today that ruthless media blitz is directed at Sarah Palin and her family. Tomorrow it could easily be directed at your candidate of choice. Ultra-conservative or "saintly" moderate it doesn't matter.

Personally I don't even think Sarah Palin will run in 2012. Just a hunch.

540 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 8:31:32pm

reine,

I also find Killgore's "take" on this odd.

There's nothing odd about it. Killgore thinks Sarah Palin is a stupid bumpkin and didn't vote for John McCain because of her.

Facts and reality be damned.

541 So What  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 9:39:44pm

A little prick wannabe big prick

542 Crossie  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:04:06pm

re: #69 Anna D

He has turned out to be a pathetic little boy, when he should be a man. Pity. I agree with #56.

Girls are forced to grow up when they have a baby whereas the boy in question can stay a boy and simply walk away. In my opinion the sex education as delivered in schools only covers part of the story. Children are told about how it is done and about contraception but not about responsibilites of each person when contraception fails or is simply not used. The educators suddenly become coy and leave that up to the children's parents.

543 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:04:53pm

re: #529 Simply Me

Hello? MILF? You are talking about the Governor Alaska. I think you are a misogynist to degrade her in this way.

Go back and read the post again. Read it, I say, don't just make a knee-jerk reaction to one term that stands out.

Dainn made it quite clear that the "MILF" epithet applies to how the mainstream media, not he, has chosen to characterize Governor Palin. Dainn has stated elsewhere that he is not huge fan of Governor Palin, but he is not "degrading" her by calling her a "MILF." he is trying to tell you that it is the MSM which is demeaning her in this fashion.

But you have done such a sloppy job of reading, you took it the wrong way.

544 Cymbaline  Thu, Apr 9, 2009 10:59:16pm

re: #55 Da Coyote

This kid almost makes me support abortion. Who'd want his genes carried on? He should marry Megan McCain. Two of a kind.

No, then they'd reproduce!

545 EaterOfFood  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:58:22am

Bristol dodged a bullet with this loser. Too cheap to buy condoms, and I imagine in a few years he'll be on the run from the law for unpaid child support.

546 Simply Me  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 10:57:19am

re: #543 Alberta Oil Peon

There is nothing in the news article posted that would support the claim that Sarah Palin is being portrayed as an MILF. She is described as the former GOP VP candidate and the "famously conservative" mother of Bristol. She is not portrayed as a sexual object. That is a "projection" onto the story by Dainn. And apparently by you as well.

Please read the actual New York Post story and then read Dainn's comment. In no way is Sarah Palin portrayed as a sex object or MILF. Read it.

547 Flavia  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:22:35pm

I expected no less from this disgusting little snot-nose.
I also knew that the minute the election went the other
way, the "marriage" would be off (Rather the same way
I knew the Democrats would find a man, ANY man, to
take the nomination from Hillary - why don't I ever put
money on these things....?).

The long & the short of it is that 2 stupid kids (& let's face
it, most kids, even the "A" students, are stupid about lots
of things) fouled up - but only one will be paying forever.
Even dumber girls will go for this slimeball, & Darwin will
spin in his grave once more.

Sigh.


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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
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