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1 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:36:03pm

Surely you have better things to focus on than things that matter.

2 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:36:25pm

are the pirates dead yet?

3 dapperdave  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:36:34pm

Mmmmm new thread, I love that new thread smell.

4 Drained Brain  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:36:46pm

Better to be silent and thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.

5 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:36:54pm

The silent majority?

6 pink freud  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:38:04pm

Jindal in 2012? Maybe Not, Reveals Chris Matthews Show

TVNewser has obtained a partial early transcript from this weekend’s, “The Chris Matthews Show.” Panelist John Heilemann of New York Magazine relayed an interesting “rumor” about Lousiana Gov. Bobby Jindal:

I was down in New Orleans, and I heard a great rumor that Bobby Jindal, who we were just talking about as a potential presidential candidate for the Republican party, is thinking about giving up the governorship and running for Senate against David Vitter, or for Vitter’s seat if Vitter doesn’t run. He’s got a terrible budget situation down there. He’s thrown himself into a Republican primary up in Baton Rouge that he’s going to apparently get creamed in. And I think what’s interesting is that that tells you that he’s got the message that 2012 isn’t his year.

/what the heck, it’s that kinda day ….

7 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:38:40pm

re: #4 Drained Brain

Better to be silent and thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.

pass that thought on to avanti, would you?

8 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:39:08pm

SHOOT YOUR TELEVISION!

9 BlueCanuck  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:39:29pm

re: #7 redc1c4

pass that thought on to avanti, would you?

Yeah, but he’s our pet troll.

10 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:39:39pm
11 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:39:41pm

re: #6 pink freud

Jindal in 2012? Maybe Not, Reveals Chris Matthews Show

TVNewser has obtained a partial early transcript from this weekend’s, “The Chris Matthews Show.” Panelist John Heilemann of New York Magazine relayed an interesting “rumor” about Lousiana Gov. Bobby Jindal:

I was down in New Orleans, and I heard a great rumor that Bobby Jindal, who we were just talking about as a potential presidential candidate for the Republican party, is thinking about giving up the governorship and running for Senate against David Vitter, or for Vitter’s seat if Vitter doesn’t run. He’s got a terrible budget situation down there. He’s thrown himself into a Republican primary up in Baton Rouge that he’s going to apparently get creamed in. And I think what’s interesting is that that tells you that he’s got the message that 2012 isn’t his year.

/what the heck, it’s that kinda day ….

i’m thinking “never” is his year to run for President, as least as a Republican.

12 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:40:02pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

SHOOT YOUR TELEVISION!

I haven’t had one since the cat died…

13 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:40:04pm

Lying is done with words and also with silence.

Adrienne Rich

14 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:40:20pm

re: #10 MandyManners

And miss Judge Judy? Are you nuts?

do they have a “Naked Judge Judy” on cable?

/brain bleach

15 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:40:30pm

re: #12 brookly red

I haven’t had one since the cat died…

Were the two events coincidental, or simultaneous?

16 Syrah  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:40:57pm

re: #2 brookly red

are the pirates dead yet?

Its been a long time since we dealt with high-seas pirates.

I was wondering how many artist and numismatist it will take for us to draw and quarter these pirates once we catch them.

17 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:41:26pm

….Clowns Moonbats to the left of me,
Jokers Loons to the right, here I am,
Stuck in the middle with you LGF.

18 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:41:31pm
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
— Martin Luther King, Jr.

CHARLES!
Why are we wasting time on these Open Threads when we could beating the living shit outta Glenn Beck!

/ … just trying to be different … :D

19 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:41:32pm

re: #16 Syrah

Its been a long time since we dealt with high-seas pirates.

I was wondering how many artist and numismatist it will take for us to draw and quarter these pirates once we catch them.

What?

20 Lincolntf  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:42:10pm

re: #16 Syrah

Upding for effort, but execution was so-so.

21 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:42:11pm

re: #18 pre-Boomer Marine brat

CHARLES!
Why are we wasting time on these Open Threads when we could beating the living shit outta Glenn Beck!

/ … just trying to be different … :D

upding whore :)

22 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:42:23pm

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

What?

hi maisey

23 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:42:54pm
24 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:43:37pm

re: #21 jwb7605

upding whore :)

What was it one of the Three Stooges used to cackle?
… [insert that here]

25 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:43:43pm
26 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:43:56pm

re: #18 pre-Boomer Marine brat

CHARLES!
Why are we wasting time on these Open Threads when we could beating the living shit outta Glenn Beck!

/ … just trying to be different … :D

has anyone seen Glenn Becks birth certificate?

/white smoke

27 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:43:56pm

re: #15 OldLineTexan

Were the two events coincidental, or simultaneous?

well once the old girl passed I tossed her bed out…

28 Miss Trixie  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:44:14pm

Afternoon ellybelly! :D

29 BlueCanuck  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:44:24pm

re: #18 pre-Boomer Marine brat

When you were made they broke the mold.

/someone realized the specs weren’t exactly right…. ;)

30 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:45:02pm

re: #28 Miss Trixie

Afternoon ellybelly! :D

Miss Trixie is in the house!

31 Syrah  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:45:28pm

re: #20 Lincolntf

Upding for effort, but execution was so-so.

Ok. I will hang that one off of the yard arm and try to do better next time.

32 jorline  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:45:34pm

re: #2 brookly red

are the pirates dead yet?

Hostage dies as French attack Somali pirates

A French hostage and two pirates died Friday in a rescue operation off Somalia, the French president’s office in Paris said Friday.

Four hostages, including a child, were freed from the hijacked yacht after almost a week of captivity, Nicolas Sarkozy’s office said.

The French military decided to move in when pirates refused their offers and increased threats against the hostages, it said.

33 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:45:37pm

re: #29 BlueCanuck

When you were made they broke the mold.

/someone realized the specs weren’t exactly right…. ;)

Laugh cackle out loud

34 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:45:43pm

re: #29 BlueCanuck

When you were made they broke the mold.

/someone realized the specs weren’t exactly right…. ;)

no, it’s : “that boy jes ain’t right….”

no wonder you did poorly on the redneck test %-)

35 Adrenalyn  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:46:13pm

Bow-Gate made the cover of the Foxnews homepage

36 Miss Trixie  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:46:36pm

re: #30 Bobblehead

Miss Trixie is in the house!

*blush*

It’s good to see you too. :D

37 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:47:10pm

By MLK’s standard, half the population never was born!

38 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:47:21pm

re: #25 MandyManners

Gotta’ go slice and dice!

Slice and dice, baby!

39 Mike in Georgia  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:47:23pm

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

40 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:48:15pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Best of luck to you.

41 Adrenalyn  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:48:18pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

my condolences

my brother in law got the same news today also
30 minutes ago
he was a printer

42 dapperdave  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:48:24pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Sorry to hear that.

43 Egregious Philbin  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:48:52pm

2 more hours of work this week…got the Grateful Dead blasting out the speakers and I’m wearing jeans. Just paid off my car 2 years early and will enjoy being debt free for about 5 more days till the house closes and I have to be a responsible adult.

Massive amounts of beer and pizza tonite.

44 jamgarr  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:49:00pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia


This too shall pass

45 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:49:01pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

my advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

46 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:49:12pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

Good luck and best wishes on finding a new job……..
:)

47 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:49:22pm

SocraticTestesOfTheBilgesphere just pooped on the Beck thread.

Test your left mouse buttons, everyone.

48 Syrah  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:49:23pm

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

I thought it was punny. I may have gone a bit over board.

49 J.S.  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:49:34pm

re: #35 Adrenalyn

CNN has also decided to cover (finally) bow-gate…

50 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:49:41pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

I’m very sorry to hear of your misfortune. I’m facing a jobless future also. The drinks are on us! As many as you need!

51 Mike in Georgia  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:49:42pm

re: #45 redc1c4

Good advice.

52 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:49:56pm

re: #44 jamgarr

This too shall pass

Here’s hoping it’s not like a kidney stone.

53 Miss Trixie  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:50:17pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

I’m sorry to hear your unfortunate news - do you have any prospects?

What’ll you have? My turn to treat the lizards!

54 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:50:19pm

re: #48 Syrah

I thought it was punny. I may have gone a bit over board.

keel have to haul you over the coals for it any way

55 Adrenalyn  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:50:21pm

re: #49 J.S.

CNN has also decided to cover (finally) bow-gate…

color me shocked !

and I love your avatar

my black cat rules the roost

56 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:50:32pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

VERY best wishes!

57 pink freud  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:50:48pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

Sorry to hear that, Mike. I hope things get better for you.

58 Devil's Advocate  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:51:22pm

I’m really having a hard time figuring out what having a loved President does for America.

59 BlueCanuck  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:51:27pm

re: #34 redc1c4

*sigh* Too rural to be urban, and too urban to be rural.

/just can’t fit in anywhere.

60 Alaska Kim  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:51:49pm

Good afternoon, y’all.

Still no lizard lounge I see.

61 Lincolntf  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:51:53pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Sorry to hear it. Do have a drink.

62 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:52:02pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

In ‘62 I was unemployed also. And in diapers.

Sorry to hear that. The best I can do is offer my condolences, and say keep your head up.

63 jamgarr  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:52:02pm

re: #59 BlueCanuck


You’re subrural

64 BlueCanuck  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:52:25pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Sorry to hear that. I hope you can find something to get you by and then some.

65 wiffersnapper  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:52:25pm

I dig the new threads, charles!

66 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:52:30pm

re: #58 Devil’s Advocate

I’m really having a hard time figuring out what having a loved President does for America.


[Video]

the problem is who loves him, and what he does to be loved.

67 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:53:12pm

re: #60 Alaska Kim

Good afternoon, y’all.

Still no lizard lounge I see.

I never went there but I know Charles feels strongly about not reopening it…….

68 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:53:12pm

re: #63 jamgarr

You’re subrural

not to mention subgenius

/white smoke

69 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:53:13pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

Chin up, man. Things will be better for you.

70 Miss Trixie  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:53:13pm

re: #59 BlueCanuck

*sigh* Too rural to be urban, and too urban to be rural.

/just can’t fit in anywhere.

Why not move to G*d’s country, Alberta, and be an Urbane Cowboy?

:D

71 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:53:30pm

re: #23 redc1c4

for Sharmuta

Here’s my offering for Sharmuta:

72 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:53:45pm

re: #67 LGoPs

I never went there but I know Charles feels strongly about not reopening it…….

i’d just like top see the lizard back as a graphic

73 Mike in Georgia  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:53:57pm

I’ve been with this company for a little over thirty years. I think
I’m going to draw the unemployment for a while and see how
I like doing just as little as I can get by with.

Thanks everyone for the kind word. Now for another drink.

74 Alaska Kim  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:54:05pm

re: #70 Miss Trixie

Why not move to G*d’s country, Alberta, and be an Urbane Cowboy?

:D

Or Alaska.

75 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:54:13pm

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

76 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:54:14pm

re: #72 redc1c4

i’d just like top see the lizard back as a graphic

It was cool, I agree.

77 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:54:43pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

post the best bits, please.

78 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:54:44pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

You must be over the target ‘cause you’re taking flak….
:)

79 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:54:54pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

Will you be sharing with us? Please?

80 Adrenalyn  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:55:05pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

was it something I said ?

81 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:55:07pm

re: #70 Miss Trixie

Alberta—-Urbane/blockquote>?

Shirley, you jest.

82 Alaska Kim  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:55:09pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

My dad always said, Consider the source.

83 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:55:15pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

Do share!

I love “we got mail” threads.

84 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:55:22pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

Yes please share.

85 Earick  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:55:23pm

“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.”

In my experience that’s usually when somebody else’s life ends!

86 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:55:32pm

re: #77 redc1c4

post the best bits, please.

No, that just gives the writer the pleasure of seeing his/her screed posted for all the world to see. Don’t give them the time of day.

87 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:55:35pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

The Kook-Wing always succeeds in outdoing themselves.

88 dapperdave  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:55:47pm

re: #75 Charles

Do tell!

89 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:55:50pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

Then you must be doing something right. Press on, Old Man.

90 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:56:14pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.


The Lizard army is begging you shared some of those ‘treats’. ;-)

91 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:56:21pm

re: #82 Alaska Kim

My dad always said, Consider the source.

the source probably reads something like “clearthinker@Yahoo.com”.
… dead giveaway …

92 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:56:22pm

re: #89 calcajun

Then you must be doing something right. Press on, Old Man.

Flak is heaviest over the target.

93 redc1c4  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:56:22pm

re: #86 Walter L. Newton

No, that just gives the writer the pleasure of seeing his/her screed posted for all the world to see. Don’t give them the time of day.

does that mean you won’t be quoting avanti anymore?

/white smoke

94 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:56:38pm

re: #70 Miss Trixie

Why not move to G*d’s country, Alberta, and be an Urbane Cowboy?

:D

LOL

95 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:56:59pm

re: #2 brookly red

are the pirates dead yet?

Are you kidding. There are 2 destroyers in the area now with 6 more aircraft carriers and the space shuttle on the way in case there’s a major firefight with these 4 Somali thugs. Let’s see if the 12 Black Hawk helicopters and 36 cruise missiles can’t do the job, Obama has signed a special order calling for… who else… Jack Bauer.

96 Miss Trixie  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:57:03pm

re: #74 Alaska Kim

Or Alaska.

My folks cruised Alaska a few years ago beginning from Vancouver, BC, and fell in love with her wild, untamed beauty.

Their photos were incredible but according to my Mom, still did no justice to the real thing.

Alaska is now on my list. :)

97 Egregious Philbin  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:57:07pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Best of luck to ya, I had a 18 month bout with unemployment a few years back, I nearly went insane. I had the money to tide over but, in hindsite, I allowed myself to get caught in a trap of inactivity and depression. Thankfully, my dear, now departed, father was in my corner all the way and never lost hope for me, even when I allowed myself to lose hope.

Get out, get active, network like hell and follow up on anything, sometimes its what you least expect that will lead you to what you want. I applied for jobs at the same level that I was at, to no avail. I did some temp work at jobs that were beneath my skill and it was horrible. I finally started applying for stuff above what I had done, and that is how I found the great job I am in today. Best of luck, be persistent and focused, good people always outlast bad times.

98 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:57:15pm

re: #90 callahan23

The Lizard army is begging you shared some of those ‘treats’. ;-)

Personally I’d rather hear those torrid love letters from desperate girlfriends but then that’s just me?

99 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:57:18pm

Links incoming from Andrew Sullivan, Juan Cole, Balloon Juice, Daily Kos, Oliver Willis, and Media Matters.

Apparently, I’m their new best friend, after years of being called every nasty, filthy name in the book by those creeps.

100 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:57:19pm

re: #90 callahan23

The Lizard army is begging you shared some of those ‘treats’. ;-)

Perhaps with a soundtrack.

101 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:57:22pm

re: #86 Walter L. Newton

No, that just gives the writer the pleasure of seeing his/her screed posted for all the world to see. Don’t give them the time of day.

Better yet, give them the time of day using the old finger method. Tell them it’s one finger from sunset…..the middle finger.
/

102 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:57:25pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

Best of luck, And please try and enjoy a bit of vacation, sounds like you’ve earned it.

103 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:57:28pm

re: #93 redc1c4

does that mean you won’t be quoting avanti anymore?

/white smoke

Hmmmm.

104 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:57:48pm

re: #99 Charles

Links incoming from Andrew Sullivan, Juan Cole, Balloon Juice, Daily Kos, Oliver Willis, and Media Matters.

Apparently, I’m their new best friend, after years of being called every nasty, filthy name in the book by those creeps.

Gawker too.

105 jorline  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:58:08pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

See what happens when you close down their favorite watering hole?
//

106 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:58:11pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

Struck a “nerve”? Hell, sounds like we hit the cerebral cortex.

107 Alaska Kim  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:58:18pm

re: #96 Miss Trixie

My folks cruised Alaska a few years ago beginning from Vancouver, BC, and fell in love with her wild, untamed beauty.

Their photos were incredible but according to my Mom, still did no justice to the real thing.

Alaska is now on my list. :)

I’ll never leave here.
If you are going to visit, May, June and July are the best times.

108 pink freud  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:58:39pm

re: #99 Charles

Links incoming from Andrew Sullivan, Juan Cole, Balloon Juice, Daily Kos, Oliver Willis, and Media Matters.

Apparently, I’m their new best friend, after years of being called every nasty, filthy name in the book by those creeps.

*shudders*

109 Earick  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:58:42pm

Yes, Charles! Share, share!

110 Miss Trixie  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:59:15pm

re: #81 calcajun

No I’m not and stop calling me Shirley! :P

111 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:59:21pm

re: #99 Charles

Links incoming from Andrew Sullivan, Juan Cole, Balloon Juice, Daily Kos, Oliver Willis, and Media Matters.

Apparently, I’m their new best friend, after years of being called every nasty, filthy name in the book by those creeps.

You’re now the enemy of their enemy. They don’t know what a friend looks like.

112 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:59:23pm

re: #99 Charles

Links incoming from Andrew Sullivan, Juan Cole, Balloon Juice, Daily Kos, Oliver Willis, and Media Matters.

Apparently, I’m their new best friend, after years of being called every nasty, filthy name in the book by those creeps.

Then again, do you want to be a member of a club that has someone like you as a member?

113 Russkilitlover  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:59:28pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

That’s terrible. Best of luck to you.

114 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:59:51pm

re: #99 Charles

Links incoming from Andrew Sullivan, Juan Cole, Balloon Juice, Daily Kos, Oliver Willis, and Media Matters.

Apparently, I’m their new best friend, after years of being called every nasty, filthy name in the book by those creeps.

Do you suppose they’ll give you a hat tip when they post their own Glen Beck pieces?

115 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 2:59:58pm

re: #99 Charles

Links incoming from Andrew Sullivan, Juan Cole, Balloon Juice, Daily Kos, Oliver Willis, and Media Matters.

Apparently, I’m their new best friend, after years of being called every nasty, filthy name in the book by those creeps.

Are the links being written on nicely decorated Easter eggs? It’s the least they could do.

116 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:00:22pm

re: #106 calcajun

Struck a “nerve”? Hell, sounds like we hit the cerebral cortex.

The dominant emotional component of the primal. //

117 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:01:04pm

re: #96 Miss Trixie

My folks cruised Alaska a few years ago beginning from Vancouver, BC, and fell in love with her wild, untamed beauty.

Their photos were incredible but according to my Mom, still did no justice to the real thing.

Alaska is now on my list. :)

I’m correct if I presume that they weren’t there during the winter months. Big difference.

118 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:01:05pm
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.

— Martin Luther King, Jr.

I’ve been off the internet over the last few days for the most part, and I just spent a nauseating five minutes over on Gellers’ pathetic site reading through her inflammatory, libelous screed about Charles.

Then I come back to the pool of sanity here at LGF to read this refreshing quote. It’s like a breath of fresh air.

NEVER stop speaking out about the things that matter, Charles… keep exposing evil, hatred and ignorance for what it is and keep right on taking the high road.

People of emnity are always going to attack and try to tear down a man of principal and integrity, because that man is everything that they aren’t and everything that they never will be… and they know it.

Intelligent people of good character can always differentiate between the man who brags that he has principles, and the man who doesn’t have to brag because he actually has them. Spencer and Geller fall into the former category, they have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt and all on their own. It’s probably why they feel so comfortable sharing bedbugs.

You my friend, most certainly fall into the latter category. You’ve clearly been given the gift of discernment, and you use it very well. I pray that you will continue to use that discernment and this blog to stand against hatred and ignorance, and stand up for what’s right.

My involvement here at LGF will be somewhat limited for the next couple of days, but I wanted to stop by a wish you a pleasant, restful weekend.

119 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:01:12pm

re: #99 Charles

Links incoming from Andrew Sullivan, Juan Cole, Balloon Juice, Daily Kos, Oliver Willis, and Media Matters.

Apparently, I’m their new best friend, after years of being called every nasty, filthy name in the book by those creeps.

Feel the luv!

120 jorline  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:01:44pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

Sorry to hear that Mike.

*toast to you*

121 BlueCanuck  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:01:46pm

re: #70 Miss Trixie

Why not move to G*d’s country, Alberta, and be an Urbane Cowboy?

:D

Thinking about it, really. I am thinking about it.

/just too damn much responsibilities here in Ontario. :-/

122 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:02:03pm

re: #115 So?

nicely decorated Easter eggs.


Yes, nothing screams the death and resurrection or our Lord, Jesus like a giant friggin’ rodent delivering chocolate eggs.

123 Alaska Kim  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:02:06pm

re: #117 Soona’

I’m correct if I presume that they weren’t there during the winter months. Big difference.

180 inches of snow this winter. You don’t want to come to AK in winter.

124 Orangutan  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:02:33pm

Well, shutting down here on a good Friday, and all I can say is Mike, I am two unemployment periods ahead of you in my life. I am certain you will find something better - there’s actually a ton to do out there. I hope you can enjoy your break more than I ever did mine (although I got better at it) and come back doing something that engages you each day.

125 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:02:38pm

re: #70 Miss Trixie

My father was born in Medicine Hat.

126 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:02:41pm

re: #122 calcajun

Yes, nothing screams the death and resurrection or our Lord, Jesus like a giant friggin’ rodent delivering chocolate eggs.

Hey you should write TV commercials!

127 Miss Trixie  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:03:04pm

Alaska Kim - thanks, toots. :)

128 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:03:16pm

Odd story of the day: Liberal activists assault Pullman (WA) armory

Two men visiting Pullman on a tour promoting civic involvement have been arrested for allegedly attempting to break into the National Guard Armory.

Thomas H. Goldstein, 44, and Andrew T. Crittendon, 26, are being held at the Whitman County Jail in Colfax on charges of second-degree attempted burglary and third-degree malicious mischief.

Pullman Daily News has a story today about two activists from something called the Washington Bus Project. After spending the day trying to urge Washington State University students to get involved in politics, the two were arrested inside the barbed-wire fence at the Pullman Armory.

The Bus Project is allied with liberal and Democratic causes and travels the state in, that’s right, a bus. The bus was in Pullman for WSU’s Civic Engagement Week.

What are they going to do? Chain themselves to a gun locker?

129 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:03:34pm

re: #123 Alaska Kim

180 inches of snow this winter. You don’t want to come to AK in winter.


I think the scenery alone would make up for a couple inches of snow.

130 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:03:46pm

re: #43 Egregious Philbin

2 more hours of work this week…got the Grateful Dead blasting out the speakers and I’m wearing jeans. Just paid off my car 2 years early and will enjoy being debt free for about 5 more days till the house closes and I have to be a responsible adult.

Massive amounts of beer and pizza tonite.

In the end it aleays comes down to beer & pizza.

131 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:03:50pm

re: #107 Alaska Kim

I’ll never leave here.
If you are going to visit, May, June and July are the best times.

The other none months of the year you’ll need night vision goggles……..
Just kidding. I’ve been to Alaska several times on business and fell in love with it myself.

132 Alaska Kim  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:03:51pm

re: #127 Miss Trixie

Alaska Kim - thanks, toots. :)

Your parents must’ve taken the Alaska Marine Highway. Nice.

133 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:04:09pm

re: #131 LGoPs

The other none months of the year you’ll need night vision goggles……..
Just kidding. I’ve been to Alaska several times on business and fell in love with it myself.

none = nine

PIMF

134 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:04:11pm

re: #126 So?

Hey you should write TV commercials!

Are you kidding? My Easter dinner is going to be rabbit in mole sauce.

135 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:04:33pm

re: #126 So?

Hey you should write TV commercials!

They didn’t have a whole lot to work with, the Spring pagan festivals were all about fertility.

136 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:04:37pm

re: #122 calcajun

Yes, nothing screams the death and resurrection or our Lord, Jesus like a giant friggin’ rodent delivering chocolate eggs.

* * * *
You got a problem with atheist pre-theist notheist nature springtime renewal & fertility symbols?

137 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:05:04pm

re: #134 calcajun
Now I know who killed the Easter Bunny! ;-)

138 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:05:08pm

Children Are Quick
____________________________________

TEACHER: Maria, go to the map and find North America
MARIA: Here it is.
TEACHER: Correct. Now class, who discovered America ?
CLASS: Maria.
__________________________________________

TEACHER: John, why are you doing your math multiplication on the floor?
JOHN: You told me to do it without using tables.
__________________________________________

TEACHER: Glenn, how do you spell ‘crocodile?’
GLENN: K-R-O-K-O-D-I-A-L’
TEACHER: No, that’s wrong
GLENN: Maybe it is wrong, but you asked me how I spell it.
____________________________________________

TEACHER: Donald, what is the chemical formula for water?
DONALD: H I J K L M N O.
TEACHER: What are you talking about?
DONALD: Yesterday you said it’s H to O.
__________________________________

TEACHER: Winnie, name one important thing we have today that we didn’t have ten years ago.
WINNIE: Me!
__________________________________________

TEACHER: Glen, why do you always get so dirty?
GLEN: Well, I’m a lot closer to the ground than you are.
_______________________________________

TEACHER: Millie, give me a sentence starting with ‘I.’
MILLIE: I is . .
TEACHER: No, Millie …. Always say, ‘I am.’
MILLIE: All right … ‘I am the ninth letter of the alphabet.’
________________________________________

TEACHER: George Washington not only chopped down his father’s cherry tree, but also admitted it. Now, Louie, do you know why his father didn’t punish him?
LOUIS: Because George still had the axe in his hand.
______________________________________

TEACHER: Now, Simon, tell me frankly, do you say prayers before eating?
SIMON: No sir, I don’t have to, my Mom is a good cook.
______________________________________

TEACHER: Clyde, your composition on ‘My Dog’ is exactly the same as your brother’s. Did you copy his?
CLYDE: No, sir. It’s the same dog.
___________________________________

TEACHER: Harold, what do you call a person who keeps on talking when people are no longer interested?
HAROLD: A teacher
__________________________________
all true!

139 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:05:14pm

re: #130 brookly red

In the end it aleays comes down to beer & pizza.

…and firearms. Don’t forget firearms.

140 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:05:16pm

re: #123 Alaska Kim

180 inches of snow this winter. You don’t want to come to AK in winter.

And the cold! The coooooooolllllllllddddddd.

141 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:05:46pm

re: #67 LGoPs

I never went there but I know Charles feels strongly about not reopening it…….

I too never went, but I miss the big green drink carrying lizard.

142 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:05:54pm

re: #96 Miss Trixie

My folks cruised Alaska a few years ago beginning from Vancouver, BC, and fell in love with her wild, untamed beauty.

Their photos were incredible but according to my Mom, still did no justice to the real thing.

Alaska is now on my list. :)

fox carrying a freshly caught rabbit
bear from the bus window

Your Mom understates it!

143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:06:22pm

I was going to say something. But, I guess not.

144 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:06:30pm

I will not be visiting Alaska anytime within the next eterinty or so….I will wait for the Climate Change

145 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:06:43pm

re: #134 calcajun

Are you kidding? My Easter dinner is going to be rabbit in mole sauce.

Yup, laughter sells. You gotz what it takes Calcajun wabbit.

146 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:07:00pm

re: #143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was going to say something. But, I guess not.

Report please?

147 Earick  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:07:19pm

re: #118 Irish Rose

aaahhhH the Irish certainly have the gift of blar..uh, uh prose!

I second her thought!

148 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:07:20pm

re: #118 Irish Rose

My involvement here at LGF will be somewhat limited for the next couple of days

Happy sunbathing.

/… :D … just could NOT resist!

149 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:07:20pm

re: #136 alegrias

* * * *
You got a problem with atheist pre-theist notheist nature springtime renewal & fertility symbols?

Yo’, I got yer “fertility symbol” right here…(it’s not symbolic anymore thanks to Viagra!)///

150 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:07:54pm

re: #143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was going to say something. But, I guess not.

Try Omega-3 three times a day.

151 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:08:15pm

re: #140 Soona’

The dark?

152 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:08:45pm

re: #148 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Happy sunbathing.

/… :D … just could NOT resist!

She’s sun bathing?! Grab a camera we’re going to Ireland!

/;-P

153 Lincolntf  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:09:01pm

re: #144 albusteve

If any of the moonbats really believed in Global Warming, wouldn’t they be buying ocean-front property in Alaska? Stupid liberals…

154 acwgusa  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:09:09pm

re: #122 calcajun

Yes, nothing screams the death and resurrection or our Lord, Jesus like a giant friggin’ rodent delivering chocolate eggs.

Oh come on, you know if Jesus were around today, he’d be surrounded by his Peeps.

155 J.S.  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:09:33pm

re: #99 Charles

They’re just trying to make themselves appear more “legitimate” (as does a certain Canadian website which shall remain nameless.)

156 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:09:39pm

re: #139 calcajun

…and firearms. Don’t forget firearms.

To quote Ricky Lee Jones: ‘keep yer business in yer pocket mister, that’s where it belongs” …

157 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:09:48pm

re: #139 calcajun

…and firearms. Don’t forget firearms.

And womens.

158 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:09:51pm

Hey Evening Lizards! It’s Windy in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland. For the first time, in a long time, the wind is not bitter cold. I have a feeling the winds have changed.

I’m listening to Tamazon.com The audio is excellent. AND it is the first Thomas Sowell book I’ve not had to rewind a million a million times.

As I’m listening I’m getting that same relaxed feeling inside I got when reading Atlas Shrugs. There is sanity in the world. There are people who, actually, think. (Present company excepted —I get the same feeling on LGF)

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

159 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:09:52pm

re: #154 acwgusa

Oh come on, you know if Jesus were around today, he’d be surrounded by his Peeps.

almost missed that one!

160 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:09:54pm

Some dumb blogger is saying “Charles Johnson’s Strange Alliance with Andrew Sullivan.” Yeah, agree with someone on a few things and it’s an alliance. Some people are clueless.

161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:09:57pm

re: #146 Walter L. Newton

Walter, so far so good. And, so far I have saved 28.00 based on former consumption. Yay me!

I’m enjoying quitting now. Just sticking it in 0bama’s ear with ever cigarette I don’t smoke!

162 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:10:01pm

I’ll post a “We Got Mail!” thread a little later. I’m trying to pick out the two craziest emails out of more than a dozen today.

163 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:10:03pm

Obama Seeks Swift Approval for $83B in War Spending
President Obama’s request, including money to send thousands more troops to Afghanistan, would push the costs of the two wars to almost $1 trillion since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according to the Congressional Research Service.


foxnews.com

his Democratic allies in control of Congress are sure to approve the spending without the type of tortuous battle that characterized their dealings with former President George W. Bush.

Because they are all hypocritical sons of bitches?

164 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:10:24pm

re: #154 acwgusa

Oh come on, you know if Jesus were around today, he’d be surrounded by his Peeps.

Someone’s thoughts are a bit scrambled.

165 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:10:32pm

re: #152 jcm

She’s sun bathing?! Grab a camera we’re going to Ireland!

/;-P

IIRC, isn’t she the one several days ago who …
*thinking better of it*

166 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:10:46pm

re: #157 Soona’

And womens.

see #156 :)

167 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:10:49pm

re: #120 jorline

Sorry to hear that Mike.

*toast to you*

From me, too.

I’ve found that periods of unemployment, trying though they may be, can also offer you time that you might not otherwise have for personal growth and introspection, career growth, and the strengthening of relationships that have been neglected due to time constraints. You’ll find another job, eventually, so be at peace… and try to remember in the meantime that unemployment is a period of transition and nothing more, and one that can truly be a blessing in disguise.

168 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:11:00pm

Dan Riehl is the first righty to take a shot….
Credibility And The Tea Party Movement


In a video at link below - after some brief side discussion between people with both the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party - a fairly obvious nutcase gets up in an open mic forum and makes some outlandish claims. Contrary to Charles’s claim the audience as a whole is not eating it up. But of course Andrew Sullivan is quick to jump in to use it as proof that the Tea Party movement is deranged.

I neither know, nor care what lgf’s problem with Glenn Beck is. But in allowing his own bias to get the best of him, Charles is casting aspersions where they don’t belong and squandering his own credibility in doing so. It’s unfortunate to see.

169 jdog29  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:11:04pm

Can Chad Campbell go wire to wire in the Master’s?

170 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:11:05pm

re: #153 Lincolntf

If any of the moonbats really believed in Global Warming, wouldn’t they be buying ocean-front property in Alaska? Stupid liberals…

show me the cactus

171 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:11:21pm

re: #138 So?

Thanks for those laughs. I desperately needed them. As I am a little shell shocked as my wife just this morning announced to me that she is going to divorce me.
The reason is irreconcilable differences as we drifted apart on so many subjects and points of opinion.
It came along for quite some time.

Sorry to be such a bore.

No kids but the cat will stay with me.
We are going to have an amicable divorce as much as possible. There is still feelings, yet we’ve drifted way too far apart from each other. :-(

I am afraid that it’s too late for any mending.

172 dapperdave  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:11:24pm

re: #162 Charles

Cool

173 Aviator  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:11:51pm

re: #163 Nevergiveup

Obama Seeks Swift Approval for $83B in War Spending
President Obama’s request, including money to send thousands more troops to Afghanistan, would push the costs of the two wars to almost $1 trillion since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according to the Congressional Research Service.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

his Democratic allies in control of Congress are sure to approve the spending without the type of tortuous battle that characterized their dealings with former President George W. Bush.

Because they are all hypocritical sons of bitches cocksuckers?

Better

174 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:11:59pm

re: #161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Walter, so far so good. And, so far I have saved 28.00 based on former consumption. Yay me!

I’m enjoying quitting now. Just sticking it in 0bama’s ear with ever cigarette I don’t smoke!

Good. And remember, he’s still smoking, and paying out the ass for them.

175 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:12:02pm

re: #162 Charles

I’ll post a “We Got Mail!” thread a little later. I’m trying to pick out the two craziest emails out of more than a dozen today.

*slobber pant drool*

176 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:12:04pm

re: #156 brookly red

But, we have to defend the pizza, you see.

177 Racer X  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:12:07pm

re: #128 jcm

Odd story of the day: Liberal activists assault Pullman (WA) armory

What are they going to do? Chain themselves to a gun locker?

I’m guessing their plan for “civic involvement” did not include going to jail.

178 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:12:10pm

re: #151 quickjustice

The dark?

O yes. And the dark.

179 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:12:12pm

re: #154 acwgusa

Oh come on, you know if Jesus were around today, he’d be surrounded by his Peeps.

These Peeps?

180 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:12:19pm

re: #160 Gus 802

Some dumb blogger is saying “Charles Johnson’s Strange Alliance with Andrew Sullivan.” Yeah, agree with someone on a few things and it’s an alliance. Some people are clueless.

They know exactly what they’re doing when they say stuff like that — they know it’s not true, they’re deliberately distorting the situation to smear me.

I’m used to it.

181 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:12:34pm

re: #171 callahan23

Thanks for those laughs. I desperately needed them. As I am a little shell shocked as my wife just this morning announced to me that she is going to divorce me.
The reason is irreconcilable differences as we drifted apart on so many subjects and points of opinion.
It came along for quite some time.

No kids but the cat will stay with me.
We are going to have an amicable divorce as much as possible. There is still feelings, yet we’ve drifted way too far apart from each other. :-(

I am afraid that it’s too late for any mending.

{callahan23}

182 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:12:35pm

re: #173 Aviator

Better

Well I wasn’t only making reference to Barney Frank, but why quibble?

183 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:12:43pm

re: #169 jdog29

Can Chad Campbell go wire to wire in the Master’s?

the Patriots did it…jus sayin

184 acwgusa  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:12:46pm

re: #179 Bobblehead

These Peeps?

Exactly.

185 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:13:10pm

re: #99 Charles

Links incoming from Andrew Sullivan, Juan Cole, Balloon Juice, Daily Kos, Oliver Willis, and Media Matters.

Apparently, I’m their new best friend, after years of being called every nasty, filthy name in the book by those creeps.

Hopefully, a few on the left recognize that there are not right wing facts, nor left facts, facts are facts. In standing up for what is right and sane even if it’s not favorable to your side makes are a true patriot.

186 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:13:22pm

re: #179 Bobblehead

These Peeps?

You know, there are green Peeps these days.

187 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:13:30pm

re: #162 Charles

I’ll post a “We Got Mail!” thread a little later. I’m trying to pick out the two craziest emails out of more than a dozen today.

Must br like trying to pick out the prettiest Playboy Bunny

The old Dick Van Dyke show,,, Rob Petrie is thinking of taking a head writers job at an old friends “girly magazine” While at the freinds office, the freind has to eliminate 1 out of the 13 girls there for next years calender. he asks rob “Which one don;’t you like”
Rob answers “She’s not here”

188 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:13:39pm

re: #176 calcajun

But, we have to defend the pizza, you see.

that has become most apparent here…

189 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:13:46pm

re: #171 callahan23

You still have us lizards to kick around.
Best wishes my friend.

190 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:13:59pm

re: #169 jdog29

Can Chad Campbell go wire to wire in the Master’s?

Not as long as Tiger is still playing on Sunday

191 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:14:04pm

re: #186 ggt

You know, there are green Peeps these days.

That is actually a cute little web site.

192 Adrenalyn  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:14:11pm

re: #49 J.S.

CNN has also decided to cover (finally) bow-gate…

I see nothing on their website about it ?

193 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:14:24pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Dan Riehl is the first righty to take a shot….
Credibility And The Tea Party Movement

I like Dan Riehl.
I hope that doesn’t draw too many downdings after that remark.

194 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:14:32pm

re: #191 Bobblehead

That is actually a cute little web site.

You are right.

195 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:14:45pm

re: #175 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*slobber pant drool*

Down boy.

196 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:15:25pm

What’s Glenn Beck’s phone number? I want to call to offer him a match! ;-)

197 acwgusa  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:15:30pm

re: #186 ggt

You know, there are green Peeps these days.

Let’s send them to Charles! He can have an off-shoot site called Little Green Peeples!

198 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:15:34pm

re: #189 DEZes

You still have us lizards to kick around.
Best wishes my friend.

Thank you {DEZes}
This is really the haven of sanity for me.

199 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:15:42pm

Rush’s CPAC speech was rebroadcast on C-SPAN today. I caught the beginning 20 minutes or so. It was a good speach.

200 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:15:45pm

re: #193 jwb7605

I like Dan Riehl.


I don’t know much about him and rarely read him blog. Be prepared, LGF is going to make a lot of enemies.

201 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:16:15pm

re: #197 acwgusa

Let’s send them to Charles! He can have an off-shoot site called Little Green Peeples!

I was wondering how the compared to green M&M’s.

202 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:16:15pm

This is what I get for mentioning that I sunbathe in the buff, I’m never going to be able to live it down.

203 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:16:26pm

OT
Larry Sabato says Joe Biden is now outfitted with a teleprompter and note cards so he won’t go off message (and lie his plagiarizing ass off) as much. On Fox News’ Brent Baer show

204 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:16:36pm

re: #188 brookly red

that has become most apparent here…

Otherwise we pizza purists risked being assaulted by our enemies from their frutified positions.

205 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:16:52pm

re: #186 ggt

You know, there are green Peeps these days.

Soylent Green Peeps?

206 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:16:57pm

re: #202 Irish Rose

This is what I get for mentioning that I sunbathe in the buff, I’m never going to be able to live it down.

what?…rebufffed again?

207 Miss Trixie  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:17:03pm

re: #121 BlueCanuck

Thinking about it, really. I am thinking about it.

/just too damn much responsibilities here in Ontario. :-/

I’m also contemplating moving back to Calgary. That horse’s a** McGuinty is going to shove an 8%+ tax increase down our throats in the name of a harmonized tax and EVERYTHING from groceries to RSP’s will be taxed. I figured out that I will be paying an extra $2,400 per year just to survive my hydro, groceries, rent, clothing and anything I need to subsist and I just don’t think I can make it without becoming poor. I live very frugally as it is and I’m starting to really panic.

Liberalism IS A MENTAL DISORDER and I fear the horse’s a** will feed billions of our money into wind farms. I am so angry I can hardly think clearly.

quickjustice

I love Medicine Hat! As a child, my family spent many happy summer weeks camping at Elkwater Nat’l Park - fond memories of that part of the world, I tell you what.

I was born in an Indian village called Rocky Mountain House. :) We grew up in a two bedroom farmhouse with no running water and spotty electricity until it burned to the ground and we relocated to Calgary.

208 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:17:05pm

re: #171 callahan23

Thanks for those laughs. I desperately needed them. As I am a little shell shocked as my wife just this morning announced to me that she is going to divorce me.
The reason is irreconcilable differences as we drifted apart on so many subjects and points of opinion.
It came along for quite some time.


No kids but the cat will stay with me.
We are going to have an amicable divorce as much as possible. There is still feelings, yet we’ve drifted way too far apart from each other. :-(

I am afraid that it’s too late for any mending.

Your first divorce?

209 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:17:09pm

re: #202 Irish Rose

Who sunbathes fully clothed?

210 Adrenalyn  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:17:25pm

re: #202 Irish Rose

This is what I get for mentioning that I sunbathe in the buff, I’m never going to be able to live it down.

tell me, do you have naked ambition ?

211 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:17:27pm

re: #205 DEZes

Soylent Green Peeps?

I certainly hope not. I can barely stomach Peeps as it is. Although they are very cool in the microwave.

212 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:17:38pm

re: #185 avanti

Hopefully, a few on the left recognize that there are not right wing facts, nor left facts, facts are facts. In standing up for what is right and sane even if it’s not favorable to your side makes are a true patriot.

Bullshit. You post your fucking dishonest leftist “facts” every day here and we shoot that shit down with our eyes closed.

And listen to your pandering to the left in your statement above “even if it’s not favorable to your side.”

Go to hell with your favorable facts.

213 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:17:44pm

re: #209 quickjustice

Who sunbathes fully clothed?

Muslim women?

214 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:17:59pm

re: #171 callahan23

{callahan23}

215 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:18:12pm

re: #180 Charles

They know exactly what they’re doing when they say stuff like — they know it’s not true, they’re deliberately distorting the situation to smear me.

I’m used to it.

Right. I’m pretty sure the primal fans of their supporting sites will buy into it. This one is the same cookie cutter post we’ve seen at AS.

The way I see it these people are prefer that we take the line of seeing no evil, speak no evil and hear no evil.

Frankly, that’s a serious lack of not only principle but character. To ignore the lunacy and not call it out is to lack scruples and displays a huge lack of foresight.

216 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:18:25pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Dan Riehl is the first righty to take a shot….
Credibility And The Tea Party Movement

How will I live without the approval of Dan Riehl?

217 apachegunner  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:18:31pm

re: #186 ggt

You know, there are green Peeps these days.

didyaever put a peep in the microwave? great when your having a party.

218 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:18:38pm

re: #212 Walter L. Newton

Bullshit. You post your fucking dishonest leftist “facts” every day here and we shoot that shit down with our eyes closed.

And listen to your pandering to the left in your statement above “even if it’s not favorable to your side.”

Go to hell with your favorable facts.

the ‘true patriot’ thing….heh

219 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:18:52pm
220 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:19:03pm

re: #217 apachegunner

It was my son’s favorite passtime for a while. That and the Mento’s and Coke experiment.

221 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:19:08pm

re: #181 ggt

{callahan23}


Thanks a million.
Lizzardia is my haven, the light in the dark alley and friends one needs in dire times.

222 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:19:37pm

re: #195 DEZes

Down boy.

:D
Maybe I’ll switch over to pre-Boomer’s SockPuppy and come back and do that.

/Goddess should be arriving soon

223 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:19:55pm

re: #204 calcajun

Otherwise we pizza purists risked being assaulted by our enemies from their frutified positions.

many martyrs stand at the ready…

224 acwgusa  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:19:59pm

re: #216 Charles

How will I live without the approval of Dan Riehl?

Tell him you live in the Riehl World?

225 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:20:01pm

re: #202 Irish Rose

This is what I get for mentioning that I sunbathe in the buff, I’m never going to be able to live it down.

Well this is the first I have heard about it, and you have my attention!

226 dapperdave  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:20:31pm

re: #198 callahan23

Dude I’m sorry to hear that.

227 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:20:52pm

US warship with helicopters joins pirate standoff

breitbart.com

The amphibious assault ship USS Boxer was also in the region

navysite.de

228 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:21:15pm

re: #208 Soona’

Your first divorce?


Yep, were together the last nineteen years. Gosh how time passes by.

229 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:21:19pm

re: #192 Adrenalyn

I see nothing on their website about it ?

In their discussion they said it would fire up the conservatives, while looking petty to the rest. They also made the GW kiss comparison to the bow.

230 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:21:24pm

re: #224 acwgusa

Tell him you live in the Riehl World?

Let’s de-Riehl that discussion before it starts, shall we.

231 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:21:25pm

re: #211 ggt

I certainly hope not. I can barely stomach Peeps as it is. Although they are very cool in the microwave.

If I get bored, ill try that. ;)

232 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:21:29pm

re: #218 albusteve

the ‘true patriot’ thing….heh

Avanti must have actually thought that no one would catch his put down of Charles. Ass hat.

233 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:21:44pm

re: #202 Irish Rose

This is what I get for mentioning that I sunbathe in the buff, I’m never going to be able to live it down.

Take it as a compliment. I hear that Ford’s becoming independently wealthy from the photo sales.

:D

234 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:21:54pm

re: #213 calcajun

The ding I gave this one actually belongs on a different post that was funnier, but in poorer taste.

/lady-like wench

235 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:22:29pm

re: #227 Nevergiveup

US warship with helicopters joins pirate standoff

[Link: www.breitbart.com…]

The amphibious assault ship USS Boxer was also in the region

[Link: navysite.de…]

This is beginning to look like what happens when a cop pulls someone over on a quiet night. Pretty soon the whole shift is there talking to each other.

236 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:22:32pm

re: #227 Nevergiveup

US warship with helicopters joins pirate standoff

[Link: www.breitbart.com…]

The amphibious assault ship USS Boxer was also in the region

[Link: navysite.de…]

we need a carrier to REALLY make a point…wtf?…are we gonna invade?

237 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:22:41pm

re: #214 wrenchwench

Thank you! {wrenchwench}

238 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:22:52pm

re: #202 Irish Rose

This is what I get for mentioning that I sunbathe in the buff, I’m never going to be able to live it down.

Really? Why, I didn’t know that. Let me know…………Nevermind.

239 Russkilitlover  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:23:20pm

This isn’t a very “Good” Friday! Company closure, Lizards laid off, Lizards getting divorced, pirates STILL holding the Captain, Republicans hitting bottom and continuing to dig…..

Man, now I need several drinks :C

240 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:23:24pm

re: #234 wrenchwench

Do tell which one.

241 acwgusa  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:23:46pm

re: #230 calcajun

Let’s de-Riehl that discussion before it starts, shall we.

Ok, then Charles can go on At the Movies with Lyons and Mankiewicz and live in the Reel World!

242 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:23:57pm

re: #228 callahan23

My marriage ended after 20 years.
It’s tough right now, but it will get easier as time goes by.

243 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:24:14pm

re: #236 albusteve

we need a carrier to REALLY make a point…wtf?…are we gonna invade?

Feds hard at work once again. Seriously, why do they have to send a carrier?

244 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:24:16pm

re: #235 CyanSnowHawk

This is beginning to look like what happens when a cop pulls someone over on a quiet night. Pretty soon the whole shift is there talking to each other.

Well it does make “negotiations” so much easier.

245 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:24:17pm

re: #232 Walter L. Newton

Avanti must have actually thought that no one would catch his put down of Charles. Ass hat.

yes…but I’m in a jolly mood altho that could change

246 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:24:26pm

re: #171 callahan23

manly hug … {callahan23}

247 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:24:30pm

re: #202 Irish Rose

This is what I get for mentioning that I sunbathe in the buff, I’m never going to be able to live it down.

Anyone can say that sort of thing. Where is your evidence, eh?///

248 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:25:08pm

re: #239 Russkilitlover

This isn’t a very “Good” Friday! Company closure, Lizards laid off, Lizards getting divorced, pirates STILL holding the Captain, Republicans hitting bottom and continuing to dig…..

Man, now I need several drinks :C

* * * *
Remember the 5 US soldiers murdered in Mosul today by an IED. Talk about real sacrifice and suffering.

249 Mike in Georgia  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:25:11pm

re: #239 Russkilitlover

I’ll has another one or two, tihnk y0u.

250 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:25:19pm

re: #236 albusteve

we need a carrier to REALLY make a point…wtf?…are we gonna invade?

Well the USS Boxer carries some heavy firepower including Harrier Jump Jets.

251 Killian Bundy  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:25:32pm

re: #217 apachegunner

didyaever put a peep in the microwave? great when your having a party.

/sure enough, if it’s been done it ends up on YouTube

252 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:25:41pm

re: #39 Mike in Georgia

Well it’s Friday and the company just closed for good. Now for the
second time in my life I’m unemployed. The last time was for
three weeks in November of 62. I think I’ll have a drink.

Start here: http://www.dol.state.ga.us/

Prayers for you. I’ve been there three times and it isn’t fun, but keep you chin up and don’t stop looking.

253 Adrenalyn  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:25:43pm

re: #229 avanti

In their discussion they said it would fire up the conservatives, while looking petty to the rest. They also made the GW kiss comparison to the bow.

GW is President still ?
referring to him is the petty

254 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:26:00pm

re: #243 Gus 802

Feds hard at work once again. Seriously, why do they have to send a carrier?

don’t know that they are, but it’s looking kind of silly, all this hardware that is totally useless

255 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:26:09pm

re: #243 Gus 802

Feds hard at work once again. Seriously, why do they have to send a carrier?

It also carries about 1,800 Marines

256 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:26:17pm

re: #243 Gus 802

Feds hard at work once again. Seriously, why do they have to send a carrier?

It has Marines on board. Amphibious assault.

257 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:26:24pm

re: #202 Irish Rose

This is what I get for mentioning that I sunbathe in the buff, I’m never going to be able to live it down.

Let me help you out Irish.. I got busted with a girl when I was 20 at Goats Rock in Northern Cali..Totally naked on the beach doing the wild thing..
I’ll never forget the bright lights in my eyes..the total embarrassment, And the physics involved in instant conversion of a red giant star to a white dwarf in 1 second.. The cop honestly asked me for ID..Are you Kidding me? We are naked! Give me a while to find our clothes..( They didn’t) It’s funny now..But not many lizards here have ever been in a small town jail naked…it wasn’t very funny then..

258 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:26:26pm

re: #247 calcajun

Anyone can say that sort of thing. Where is your evidence, eh?///

One of the lizards here told me he was going to Google my location with GE.

259 acwgusa  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:26:40pm

re: #251 Killian Bundy

[Video]/sure enough, if it’s been done it ends up on YouTube

Better if you freeze one, then inject it with red food coloring, then explode it in the microwave.

260 J.S.  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:26:43pm

re: #192 Adrenalyn

It was a CNN reporter, Dan Lothian, who asked Robert Gibbs whether or not Obama bowed. (made Gibbs get uncomfortable, and Gibbs had to claim it wasn’t “a bow.”) Wolf Blitzer had panelists on (political people) and he asked them “Did Obama bow?” and then showed the clip. The republican spokesperson said it’s wasn’t all that big a deal, but that it did seem to her to be a bow. Later CNN also showed irate editorials about Obama’s bow (one from an editorial — Philadelphia Inquirer? — which was enraged about the shocking disregard for Presidential protocols when greeting monarchs, etc.)…Some of the desk people (forget the name) also mentioned how late this story is….(btw, when did Obama bow? — was that on April 1, ? if it was, I’m surprised Robert Gibbs didn’t laugh it off as an April Fool’s gag…)

261 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:26:52pm

ah, I gotta go. Puppies think they should be taken out since they just ate.

Catch you-all on the late night thread.

262 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:27:02pm

re: #255 Nevergiveup

It also carries about 1,800 Marines

Those must be some pretty tough pirates.

“They’ve got big teeth!”

//

263 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:27:20pm

re: #250 Nevergiveup

Well the USS Boxer carries some heavy firepower including Harrier Jump Jets.

The real trick is going to be nonchalantly following the lifeboat to the pirates base with an entire task force.

/I don’t know, fly casual.

264 Racer X  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:27:24pm

re: #219 Bobblehead

Peeps Fun Facts

A friend of mine recommended I try Peeps Smores. Sounds really good!

265 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:27:37pm

re: #256 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It has Marines on board. Amphibious assault.

there are a handfull of gooners…they laugh at Harriers

266 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:27:41pm

re: #242 Irish Rose

I am still in the shell shocked/awestruck/don’t know—phase.
You are probably right with your kind words. Thanks

267 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:27:53pm

re: #261 ggt

ah, I gotta go. Puppies think they should be taken out since they just ate.

Catch you-all on the late night thread.

The puppies will be fine.
Don’t concern yourself.

*DUCKING*

268 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:28:02pm

re: #263 CyanSnowHawk

The real trick is going to be nonchalantly following the lifeboat to the pirates base with an entire task force.

/I don’t know, fly casual.

They asked for it?

269 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:28:03pm

re: #239 Russkilitlover

This isn’t a very “Good” Friday! Company closure, Lizards laid off, Lizards getting divorced, pirates STILL holding the Captain, Republicans hitting bottom and continuing to dig…..

Man, now I need several drinks :C

We still have Avanti to kick around, it’s not all bad.

270 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:28:04pm

re: #254 albusteve

don’t know that they are, but it’s looking kind of silly, all this hardware that is totally useless

The whole situation requires “up close and personal” attention.
My hope is the excessive hardware carries the solution (SEAL) while providing the distraction, and blockading the alleged “support” coming from the pirate organization.

271 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:28:21pm

re: #256 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It has Marines on board. Amphibious assault.

Thanks. Seems like overkill to me.

272 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:28:28pm

re: #171 callahan23

Thanks for those laughs. I desperately needed them. As I am a little shell shocked as my wife just this morning announced to me that she is going to divorce me.
The reason is irreconcilable differences as we drifted apart on so many subjects and points of opinion.
It came along for quite some time.


No kids but the cat will stay with me.
We are going to have an amicable divorce as much as possible. There is still feelings, yet we’ve drifted way too far apart from each other. :-(

I am afraid that it’s too late for any mending.

I’m so sorry to hear that my friend. I went through a divorce in the early 90’s and it scarred me for many years………probably forever.
You are in my thoughts and prayers. I hope you find peace.

273 Lincolntf  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:28:41pm

re: #227 Nevergiveup

I assume we can all see how this incident is a microcosm of our role in the world. The only thing preventing the Navy from destroying the pirate escape boat, and probably killing the hostage, is an inherent respect for life. We’ll pay millions to save a single life, we’ll sacrifice our own lives to keep innocents safe. It’s a very noble sentiment, and one that all countries should aspire to, but it leaves us somehow powerless in the face of 4 illiterates with a raft and AK’s.
We should make this distinction to the world when they begin the moral equivalence game vis a vis Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

Sorry for the ramble, just really hoping that the Captain gets out okay and all of this maneuvering hasn’t been for naught.

274 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:28:42pm

re: #171 callahan23

Man, that is rough. Is it really beyond repair? I never like hearing things like this—know too many friends who have divorced.

275 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:28:54pm

I missed all of the Glenn Beck fun today. Someone needs to remind Brother Beck that he should stick to the basics. He wasn’t so radical a few years back on the radio. I suspect he’s beginning to believe his own press and that ain’t good.

276 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:28:56pm

re: #216 Charles

How will I live without the approval of Dan Riehl?

How the hell do they get:

“I neither know, nor care what lgf’s problem with Glenn Beck is. But in allowing his own bias to get the best of him, Charles is casting aspersions where they don’t belong and squandering his own credibility in doing so. It’s unfortunate to see.”

You lose credibility by not speaking out for what’s right, not staying silent. Is Mr Riehl in favor of book burning or does he just think book burner are a asset to conservatives ?
He probably would have sat quietly through that book burning comment so as not to be “biased”

277 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:29:00pm

re: #250 Nevergiveup

Well the USS Boxer carries some heavy firepower including Harrier Jump Jets.

and name one target in whole county worth the fuel to even launch one?

278 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:29:05pm

re: #246 pre-Boomer Marine brat

manly hug … {callahan23}


Bear hug back - Thanks p-BoomerMb

279 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:29:30pm

re: #228 callahan23

Yep, were together the last nineteen years. Gosh how time passes by.

Nineteen years, huh? That’s more years than all three of my marriages put together.

280 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:29:35pm

re: #270 jwb7605

The whole situation requires “up close and personal” attention.
My hope is the excessive hardware carries the solution (SEAL) while providing the distraction, and blockading the alleged “support” coming from the pirate organization.

that’s the only explanation…they better be somewhere in this armada

281 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:29:38pm

re: #271 Gus 802

Thanks. Seems like overkill to me.

It’s not like they sailed from Norfolk. They were in the “neighborhood” anyway.

282 Russkilitlover  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:29:39pm

re: #228 callahan23

Yep, were together the last nineteen years. Gosh how time passes by.

Oh, my. I’m so sorry.

{callahan}

283 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:30:03pm

re: #271 Gus 802

Thanks. Seems like overkill to me.

Yes.

/unless this testes of the Obama Administration is causing some to appear

284 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:30:19pm

re: #269 Walter L. Newton

We still have Avanti to kick around, it’s not all bad.

He did not come here for an argument—he came here for abuse (and some being hit on the head lessons, too)

285 apachegunner  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:30:30pm

re: #251 Killian Bundy

/sure enough, if it’s been done it ends up on YouTube

thanks for that bundy, how’d ya find it so fast?

286 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:31:00pm

re: #277 brookly red

and name one target in whole county worth the fuel to even launch one?

Munitions have to be rotated every now and then anyway.

287 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:31:01pm

re: #280 albusteve

that’s the only sensible explanation…they better be somewhere in this armada

my take.
you must be quite strange. We tend to agree a lot.

288 Russkilitlover  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:31:06pm

re: #269 Walter L. Newton

We still have Avanti to kick around, it’s not all bad.

Good point. Where is that sonofabitch?

289 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:31:21pm

re: #283 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes.

/unless this testes of the Obama Administration is causing some to appear

I think you’re onto something there. This might be the workings of the new administration. No doubt. Better get some strategic bombers to orbit the site pronto!

290 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:31:25pm

re: #257 HoosierHoops

Any body want a candy bar?

*Snickers*

291 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:31:25pm

re: #284 calcajun

He did not come here for an argument—he came here for abuse (and some being hit on the head lessons, too)

292 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:31:43pm

re: #285 apachegunner

/sure enough, if it’s been done it ends up on YouTube

thanks for that bundy, how’d ya find it so fast?


He probably sorted through a seach on hot flaming bunnies and sorted out the San Fransisco furry convention first.
//

293 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:31:54pm

re: #281 Nevergiveup

It’s not like they sailed from Norfolk. They were in the “neighborhood” anyway.

OK, maybe.

294 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:32:08pm

re: #288 Russkilitlover

Good point. Where is that sonofabitch?

#276, a confusing comment that makes no sense to me, but I think he is dissing Charles?

295 Killian Bundy  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:32:18pm

re: #285 apachegunner

/sure enough, if it’s been done it ends up on YouTube

thanks for that bundy, how’d ya find it so fast?

/search peep microwave on YouTube, apparently it’s quite a popular thing to do

296 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:32:27pm

re: #272 LGoPs

I’m so sorry to hear that my friend. I went through a divorce in the early 90’s and it scarred me for many years………probably forever.
You are in my thoughts and prayers. I hope you find peace.


Thanks my friend. Somehow I think I am gonna be alright.
- I do wish peace for my estranged wife though.

297 Syrah  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:32:28pm

re: #235 CyanSnowHawk

This is beginning to look like what happens when a cop pulls someone over on a quiet night. Pretty soon the whole shift is there talking to each other.

Its the kind of impression that you want the pirates to have. Mess with America and you will have a very bad day.

298 mikalm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:32:31pm

My annual seasonal greeting to the Lizards:

Christians: Happy Easter Weekend. Christ is Risen - Truly He is Risen!

Jews: Happy Passover. May the G-d of Israel richly bless your houses!

Everyone else: Happy Spring. The best wishes to you for this season of new beginnings!

299 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:32:41pm

re: #273 Lincolntf

I assume we can all see how this incident is a microcosm of our role in the world. The only thing preventing the Navy from destroying the pirate escape boat, and probably killing the hostage, is an inherent respect for life. We’ll pay millions to save a single life, we’ll sacrifice our own lives to keep innocents safe. It’s a very noble sentiment, and one that all countries should aspire to, but it leaves us somehow powerless in the face of 4 illiterates with a raft and AK’s.
We should make this distinction to the world when they begin the moral equivalence game vis a vis Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

Sorry for the ramble, just really hoping that the Captain gets out okay and all of this maneuvering hasn’t been for naught.

quite true…to get this situation back in our favor somebody is gonna die and I’d rather it not be our guy…give the pirates whatever they want and be done with it…all this deep water fire power is ridiculous…get our guy back and then go take care of business ashore

300 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:32:43pm

BTW, did I hear that someone has a birthday coming up?

301 Miss Trixie  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:32:44pm

{callahan}

/why do the Brits insist on “keeping a stiff upper lip” when it’s the lower that trembles?

302 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:33:10pm

re: #277 brookly red

and name one target in whole county worth the fuel to even launch one?

right

303 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:34:20pm

re: #277 brookly red

and name one target in whole county worth the fuel to even launch one?

Ha! How do you retaliate when bombing them into the stone age could be considered a humanitarian mission?

304 Pietr  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:34:25pm

re: #300 Irish Rose

BTW, did I hear that someone has a birthday coming up?

Just Realwest-not a BIG deal, Right?

//////Lotsa white smoke, and hope I find cover……….

305 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:34:31pm

re: #274 calcajun

Man, that is rough. Is it really beyond repair? I never like hearing things like this—know too many friends who have divorced.


Estrangement is a bitch, you are left with nothing to tell the partner.

306 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:34:49pm

re: #278 callahan23

Bear hug back - Thanks p-BoomerMb

You’re welcome. You will mend.

BTW, my ex and I had grown faaarrr apart over 25 years. I was the one who ultimately asked for a divorce. It was something of a godsend to her, because she hadn’t been able to (family disapproval). She’s very happy now in a second marriage … and I’m glad.

15 years of being single for me, and I’m doing okay.

/just sayin’ … things can work out in unexpected ways

307 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:35:35pm

re: #299 albusteve

quite true…to get this situation back in our favor somebody is gonna die and I’d rather it not be our guy…give the pirates whatever they want and be done with it…all this deep water fire power is ridiculous…get our guy back and then go take care of business ashore

So we send all this fire power after the fact. Meanwhile we won’t change the international law to provide onboard security for American flagged ships. It’s like living in a gun free city where you can’t own a gun to protect yourself and having half the city PD and a SWAT team show up at your front door every time there’s an incident.

308 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:36:13pm

re: #298 mikalm

Thank you!

309 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:36:21pm

re: #240 calcajun

Do tell which one.

That would defeat the point of moving the ding.

310 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:36:22pm

re: #171 callahan23

Thanks for those laughs. I desperately needed them. As I am a little shell shocked as my wife just this morning announced to me that she is going to divorce me.
The reason is irreconcilable differences as we drifted apart on so many subjects and points of opinion.
It came along for quite some time.

No kids but the cat will stay with me.
We are going to have an amicable divorce as much as possible. There is still feelings, yet we’ve drifted way too far apart from each other. :-(

I am afraid that it’s too late for any mending.

I am deeply sorry..I have a close friend that is getting a divorce..He told me this last week..The news was a total shock.. If I can offer any support please let me know..My nic is blue..email me.

311 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:36:27pm

Hillary Clinton still has $6 million in campaign debt, which Carville & Begala are trying to fundraise to cover. Awwww, Obama lied about showing her the love.

312 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:36:45pm

re: #296 callahan23

Thanks my friend. Somehow I think I am gonna be alright.
- I do wish peace for my estranged wife though.

Thinking of your wife’s welfare is kind.

My ex hurt me badly but I coulnd’t stop caring for her and took care of her behind the scenes so to speak. At one point I heard that she was losing her house and I anonymously made the payments (several thousand dollars) to get her caught up. And I didn’t want her to know…….better that way.

313 Rancher  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:36:53pm

re: #277 brookly red

and name one target in whole county worth the fuel to even launch one?

The pirate bases?

314 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:37:17pm

39 pubs close in Britain every week, and there are some villages without ANY pubs! That’s a crisis.

315 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:37:26pm

re: #300 Irish Rose

shhhh

316 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:37:37pm

re: #299 albusteve

quite true…to get this situation back in our favor somebody is gonna die and I’d rather it not be our guy…give the pirates whatever they want and be done with it…all this deep water fire power is ridiculous…get our guy back and then go take care of business ashore

Wonderful! We part opinions, finally!

Giving the pirates what they want is no longer an option, from the “world opinion” political viewpoint. Even the French sacrificed a hostage today in a statistically successful raid.

Personally, I would have put a small hole in the hull of their boat 48 hours ago, and then “negotiated”.

317 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:37:42pm

re: #311 alegrias

Hillary Clinton still has $6 million in campaign debt, which Carville & Begala are trying to fundraise to cover. Awwww, Obama lied about showing her the love.

IIRC she was going to pay off her own debt?!?!?!?

318 acwgusa  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:37:56pm

re: #314 alegrias

39 pubs close in Britain every week, and there are some villages without ANY pubs! That’s a crisis.

Government Bailout!

319 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:38:20pm

re: #313 Rancher

The pirate bases?

you mean where their wives & children live? Hmmmmm, no not gonna happen.

320 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:38:22pm

re: #313 Rancher

The pirate bases?

You might risk injuring the Red Headed Wench (obscure Pirate of the Carrabean Disney Ride Reference)

321 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:38:26pm

Save the pubs! Obama should bailout Britain’s pubs. Join with Prince Charles and Camilla to save beer drinking pubs in Britain.

Pub dwellers are our friends.

322 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:38:33pm

When I read things like I did in the last post, I begin to wonder if the Republican party is ever going to be able to pull it’s collective act together.

323 mikalm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:38:43pm

re: #308 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thank you!

You’re welcome! This is a special season, and I try to include everyone in my thoughts, whatever their faith (or lack thereof).

324 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:38:53pm

re: #312 LGoPs

Thinking of your wife’s welfare is kind.

My ex hurt me badly but I coulnd’t stop caring for her and took care of her behind the scenes so to speak. At one point I heard that she was losing her house and I anonymously made the payments (several thousand dollars) to get her caught up. And I didn’t want her to know…….better that way.


You are most certainly a rare bird, a thousand updings be upon thee.

325 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:38:58pm

re: #319 brookly red

you mean where their wives & children live? Hmmmmm, no not gonna happen.

Exactly.

326 calcajun  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:39:18pm

re: #309 wrenchwench

That would defeat the point of moving the ding.

Oh, bother.

327 jaunte  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:39:21pm

re: #321 alegrias

Save the pubs! Obama should bailout Britain’s pubs. Join with Prince Charles and Camilla to save beer drinking pubs in Britain.

Pub dwellers are our friends.

You make a good pint.

328 Rancher  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:39:28pm

re: #314 alegrias

39 pubs close in Britain every week, and there are some villages without ANY pubs! That’s a crisis.

Screw Britain, my town once had five bars and now has none.

329 Spiritualized  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:39:36pm

Gateway Pundit - Sarah Palin Responds to Levi Johnston: “Over My Dead Body”

“I know the truth about my family. I know details about whether Levi Johnston was allowed to live with my teenage daughter or not. By the way, it would be over my dead body that a kid would live with my teenage daughter,” Palin said.

Heh, owned.

330 LeePro  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:39:38pm

re: #300 Irish Rose

BTW, did I hear that someone has a birthday coming up?

: : : : : grinning : : : : :

331 Opilio  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:39:38pm

re: #322 Irish Rose

When I read things like I did in the last post, I begin to wonder if the Republican party is ever going to be able to pull it’s collective act together.

The one about pubs?

332 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:39:47pm

re: #321 alegrias

Save the pubs! Obama should bailout Britain’s pubs. Join with Prince Charles and Camilla to save beer drinking pubs in Britain.

Pub dwellers are our friends.


Can you imagine the alternative. Soccer fans wandering the streets sober. Terrible to contemplate.

333 SFGoth  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:39:55pm

Off to Munich tonight for the weekend via Frankfurt. Here’s hoping coach is oversold. Counter shows Y2, so it’s possible. Lizard luck, don’t let me down!

334 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:40:13pm

re: #307 Gus 802

So we send all this fire power after the fact. Meanwhile we won’t change the international law to provide onboard security for American flagged ships. It’s like living in a gun free city where you can’t own a gun to protect yourself and having half the city PD and a SWAT team show up at your front door every time there’s an incident.

right…the guy’s live is worth the money…if I could I’d pay it myself…he layed it all on the line…give them the fucking money

335 pat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:40:26pm

When is Obama going to let the dogs lose on these pirates? The FBI has less than a stellar reputation under these circumstance. Send in the military. Why didn’t the open up on the vessel when the captain went for it? Clearly that is what he thought would happen.

336 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:40:40pm

re: #312 LGoPs

Thinking of your wife’s welfare is kind.

My ex hurt me badly but I coulnd’t stop caring for her and took care of her behind the scenes so to speak. At one point I heard that she was losing her house and I anonymously made the payments (several thousand dollars) to get her caught up. And I didn’t want her to know…….better that way.

People like you are too few in number these days.

337 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:40:44pm

re: #322 Irish Rose

btw, re your immediate earlier, did you get an email from reine and/or vx?

338 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:41:02pm

re: #321 alegrias

Save the pubs! Obama should bailout Britain’s pubs. Join with Prince Charles and Camilla to save beer drinking pubs in Britain.

Pub dwellers are our friends.

When I visited Ireland a few years back I played session with the locals in pubs all over Western Ireland.

No self respecting city or town in Ireland is going to have anything less that one pub per street… even the smaller villages have two or three.

Priorities.

339 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:41:02pm

re: #322 Irish Rose

When I read things like I did in the last post, I begin to wonder if the Republican party is ever going to be able to pull it’s collective act together.


It will if it can keep the fringe specialists from grabbing the microphone and getting all of the PR. I have some faith that the bulk of the American people still value smaller government, real civil liberty and freedom.

340 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:41:49pm

re: #313 Rancher

The pirate bases?

now?…talk about sending signals…there are lots of innocent people to consider…no small operation

341 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:41:58pm

re: #334 albusteve

right…the guy’s live is worth the money…if I could I’d pay it myself…he layed it all on the line…give them the fucking money

My idea was to give them the “money” with some sort of tracking device (GPS). The money doesn’t have to be valid either.

342 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:42:14pm

re: #338 Irish Rose

When I visited Ireland a few years back I played session with the locals in pubs all over Western Ireland.

No self respecting city or town in Ireland is going to have anything less that one pub per street… even the smaller villages have two or three.

Priorities.


A Guiness a day keeps the Taliban away.

343 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:42:39pm

re: #307 Gus 802

So we send all this fire power after the fact. Meanwhile we won’t change the international law to provide onboard security for American flagged ships. It’s like living in a gun free city where you can’t own a gun to protect yourself and having half the city PD and a SWAT team show up at your front door every time there’s an incident.

* * * * *
Welcome to your nation’s capital, a gun free zone, where only criminals carry them. We spend gazillions of tax dollars on “protection” and police, because the crime rate is so high in this 100% democrat run city.

344 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:42:39pm

re: #218 albusteve

the ‘true patriot’ thing….heh

Confused again, is Charles being fair and that making him a patriot a insult somehow ?

345 dapperdave  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:42:46pm

re: #312 LGoPs

That’s called “stepping up to the plate” we could a few more like you in this nation.

346 mikalm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:42:47pm

re: #328 Rancher

Screw Britain, my town once had five bars and now has none.

You must admit, though, there is something very special about a British pub. The word itself is a diminution of “public house,” which is to say, a meeting place for the community. I’ve always preferred the open, friendly atmosphere of pubs, whether in the UK or elsewhere, to the dark, liquor-gulping, neo-speakeasy environment of stereotypical American bars.

347 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:43:14pm

re: #316 jwb7605

Wonderful! We part opinions, finally!

Giving the pirates what they want is no longer an option, from the “world opinion” political viewpoint. Even the French sacrificed a hostage today in a statistically successful raid.

Personally, I would have put a small hole in the hull of their boat 48 hours ago, and then “negotiated”.

too late for that…the guys life means everything

348 Rancher  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:43:19pm

re: #334 albusteve

right…the guy’s live is worth the money…if I could I’d pay it myself…he layed it all on the line…give them the fucking money

It’s a hard line but amnesty is and should be nonnegotiable.

349 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:43:28pm

re: #340 albusteve

now?…talk about sending signals…there are lots of innocent people to consider…no small operation

It’s not doable either. The Somali pirate villages are spread out far and wide. It’s not like we attack on “base” and be done with it.

350 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:43:50pm

re: #349 Gus 802

It’s not doable either. The Somali pirate villages are spread out far and wide. It’s not like we attack ene “base” and be done with it.

351 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:43:54pm

re: #340 albusteve

re: #341 Gus 802

re: #313 Rancher

Why are we talking about bombing the pirate base and/ or the lifeboat with the US captain on it. Why is the MOTHER SHIP not at the bottom of the ocean,,,, NOW !

352 Syrah  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:43:58pm

Anyone else having page load problems with LGF or is just my poor connection?

353 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:43:58pm

Fox News is discussing the pirate situation, and Brett Baer just posed the question “why didn’t the Navy take care of this when the captain jumped”.

I’m going to listen.

354 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:44:05pm

Oh cripes. I can’t type.

355 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:44:13pm

re: #301 Miss Trixie

{callahan}

/why do the Brits insist on “keeping a stiff upper lip” when it’s the lower that trembles?


I am not exactly a brit you know? I only studied there. ;-)
Thanks.

{HoosierHoops}
{LGoPs}

356 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:44:36pm

re: #318 acwgusa

Government Bailout!

* * * **
Social drinking is good, better than drinking alone! Agreed—this is urgent.////

357 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:44:48pm

re: #346 mikalm

You must admit, though, there is something very special about a British pub. The word itself is a diminution of “public house,” which is to say, a meeting place for the community. I’ve always preferred the open, friendly atmosphere of pubs, whether in the UK or elsewhere, to the dark, liquor-gulping, neo-speakeasy environment of stereotypical American bars.


Absolutely. Even as a non-drinker I love to be able to go to a comfortable place, grab some warm comfort food and talk to my friends. No pressure to hook up, be beautiful or drink ones self into oblivion. The sports on TV are a bonus.

358 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:44:51pm

re: #352 Syrah

Anyone else having page load problems with LGF or is just my poor connection?

I’m not having any trouble.

359 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:45:08pm

re: #297 Syrah

Its the kind of impression that you want the pirates to have. Mess with America and you will have a very bad day.

An assault force has to be getting the attention of the leaders of this pirate group. They can’t think that this will end when the Captain his returned to us.

360 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:45:18pm

re: #335 pat

When is Obama going to let the dogs lose on these pirates? The FBI has less than a stellar reputation under these circumstance. Send in the military. Why didn’t the open up on the vessel when the captain went for it? Clearly that is what he thought would happen.

Pat the news said it was midnight, the Navy ship was a few 100 yards away and was unaware the captain was jumping in the water. Apparently he did not get far enough to give the Navy time to help.

361 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:45:19pm

re: #353 jwb7605

Fox News is discussing the pirate situation, and Brett Baer just posed the question “why didn’t the Navy take care of this when the captain jumped”.

I’m going to listen.

chain of command,,, someone in Washington is calling the shots

362 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:45:20pm

re: #352 Syrah

Anyone else having page load problems with LGF or is just my poor connection?

Smooth as silk here.

363 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:45:22pm

re: #344 avanti

Confused again, is Charles being fair and that making him a patriot a insult somehow ?

clearly patriotism is just a word to you

364 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:45:30pm

re: #352 Syrah

Okay here.

365 Rancher  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:45:52pm

re: #346 mikalm

You must admit, though, there is something very special about a British pub. The word itself is a diminution of “public house,” which is to say, a meeting place for the community. I’ve always preferred the open, friendly atmosphere of pubs, whether in the UK or elsewhere, to the dark, liquor-gulping, neo-speakeasy environment of stereotypical American bars.

Never have been in one I can only guess that you’re probably right. Nevertheless a liquor-gulping bar with a pool table is greatly missed.

366 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:46:02pm

re: #348 Rancher

It’s a hard line but amnesty is and should be nonnegotiable.

I didn’t even consider amnesty

367 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:46:04pm

re: #351 sattv4u2

re: #341 Gus 802

re: #313 Rancher

Why are we talking about bombing the pirate base and/ or the lifeboat with the US captain on it. Why is the MOTHER SHIP not at the bottom of the ocean,,,, NOW !

I think it’s because we’re discussing realistic alternatives. I don’t think there’s any plan to blow up the mother ship either since the hostage is on board.

368 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:46:14pm

re: #334 albusteve

right…the guy’s live is worth the money…if I could I’d pay it myself…he layed it all on the line…give them the fucking money

I agree… get this guy out alive.

Afterwards, I will judge this administration on their actions of 1. payback & 2. prevention (see 1.).

369 pat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:46:21pm

Glenn Beck is not a Republican. Rush Limbaugh is. Michael Savage not, Praeger is.

370 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:46:59pm

re: #328 Rancher

Screw Britain, my town once had five bars and now has none.

* * * **
Sorry to hear that. Pubs have been around hundreds of years, and are wonderful places where entire families hang out, it’s quite a different thing—truly like a neighborhood living room in villages where homes are small.

I feel your pain! Save the Pubs & Bars!

371 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:47:23pm

re: #367 Gus 802

I think it’s because we’re discussing realistic alternatives. I don’t think there’s any plan to blow up the mother ship either since the hostage is on board.

No,, the hostage is onboard a small ship taken from the cargo ship. The MOTHER SHIP is where the Pirates came from to attack the cargo ship

372 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:47:51pm

re: #349 Gus 802

It’s not doable either. The Somali pirate villages are spread out far and wide. It’s not like we attack on “base” and be done with it.

it will take a good plan and alot of assets to pull off…thumping them with a Harrier tomorrow is not cool

373 Killian Bundy  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:48:07pm

Somali pirates sail German ship to standoff scene

Somali pirates holding foreign sailors on a hijacked German ship are heading towards a lifeboat where they are holding an American captain hostage. It is thought they intend to use the ship as a shield.

A pirate source told Reuters that the pirates are counting on the fact that the Americans will not destroy the German ship in any attempt to rescue Captain Richard Phillips

Four heavily armed pirates holding the US Navy captain hostage in a lifeboat far off the Somali coast in the Indian Ocean since Wednesday have been communicating with other pirate gangs who are now sailing a hijacked German ship to the site to avoid being attacked should US warships launch a rescue attempt.

“We are not afraid,” say pirates

Two boats full of heavily-armed fellow pirates have taken up position near lifeboat but are too nervous to come near due to the presence of foreign naval ships including US warships.

“We are not afraid of the Americans,” one of the pirates told Reuters by satellite phone on behalf of the pirates holding Phillips, far off the Somali coast in the Indian Ocean. “We will defend ourselves if attacked.”

Well, at least someone’s taking action to end this farce.

/unfortunately, it’s not TOTUS

374 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:48:15pm

Man I could go for some fish and chips right now.

375 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:48:20pm

re: #371 sattv4u2

No,, the hostage is onboard a small ship life boat taken from the cargo ship. The MOTHER SHIP is where the Pirates came from to attack the cargo ship


PIMF

376 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:48:21pm

re: #319 brookly red

you mean where their wives & children live? Hmmmmm, no not gonna happen.

Remember though. We have glorious leader now. The MFMSM would say it was justified.

377 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:48:24pm

re: #371 sattv4u2

No,, the hostage is onboard a small ship taken from the cargo ship. The MOTHER SHIP is where the Pirates came from to attack the cargo ship

You can’t engage the mother ship unless they first take hostile action. If the mother ship just sits there we can’t do anything unless they fire first.

378 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:48:36pm

re: #332 DaddyG

Can you imagine the alternative. Soccer fans wandering the streets sober. Terrible to contemplate.

* * * *
“Football Hooligans” are to be feared! Now you’re talking!

379 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:49:07pm

re: #351 sattv4u2

re: #341 Gus 802

re: #313 Rancher

Why are we talking about bombing the pirate base and/ or the lifeboat with the US captain on it. Why is the MOTHER SHIP not at the bottom of the ocean,,,, NOW !

I’m not…these people drag hostages around with them wherever they go

380 Syrah  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:49:10pm

My network connection is crap.

Giving up for awhile.

Back later.

381 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:49:32pm

re: #377 Gus 802

You can’t engage the mother ship unless they first take hostile action. If the mother ship just sits there we can’t do anything unless they fire first.

they DID take 1st action. They launched the skiff that attacked the cargo ship!

382 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:49:51pm

re: #373 Killian Bundy Blast them all out of the damn water. If I were the American hostage, I would gladly sacrifice myself just to take all these bastards out. There will be no negotiating. We cannot just wait them out. BOOM!

383 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:50:08pm

re: #381 sattv4u2

they DID take 1st action. They launched the skiff that attacked the cargo ship!

That was a previous action. They’d have to fire again.

384 mikalm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:51:14pm

re: #365 Rancher

Never have been in one I can only guess that you’re probably right. Nevertheless a liquor-gulping bar with a pool table is greatly missed.

Bigger US cities often have British-style pubs — especially “brewpubs,” where microbrews are produced on the premises. Many sports bars approximate the feeling of a pub as well. The two key factors seem to be: 1) an emphasis on beer/wine, rather than hard liquor, as the drink of choice; and 2) a kitchen that serves hot food.

And I agree — a pool table is a huge plus, if not a requirement.

385 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:51:27pm

re: #383 Gus 802

That was a previous action. They’d have to fire again.

WTF are you talking about ,, “previous action”. This is the SAME instance

386 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:51:29pm

re: #368 brookly red

I agree… get this guy out alive.

Afterwards, I will judge this administration on their actions of 1. payback & 2. prevention (see 1.).

payback in spades….these people are ruthless and that’s just how they need to be treated

387 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:51:31pm

re: #383 Gus 802
So you are saying there are rules to be followed? Anyone else sick and tired of the US following the “rules” when no one else does?!?!?!?!?!?!?

388 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:51:42pm

Anyone have an image of this mother ship?

389 Rancher  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:51:45pm

re: #351 starve4u2

re: #341 Gus 802

re: #313 Rancher

Why are we talking about bombing the pirate base and/ or the lifeboat with the US captain on it. Why is the MOTHER SHIP not at the bottom of the ocean,,,, NOW !

Why not sink the ships at the bases? I’m not calling for entire villages to be razed but for surgical strikes at legitimate military targets. If we know where the mother ship is it should be sunk, I’m pretty sure that there are few if any innocents on board. As for hostage situations, you negotiate until they start to rape, torture, or kill hostages.

390 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:51:46pm

re: #363 albusteve

clearly patriotism is just a word to you

Here we go again with assaults on my love of country, it’s getting lame and boring.

391 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:51:51pm

What are the rules of engagement here?

392 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:52:05pm

re: #373 Killian Bundy

Somali pirates sail German ship to standoff scene

Well, at least someone’s taking action to end this farce.

/unfortunately, it’s not TOTUS

We are not afraid of the Americans,” one of the pirates told Reuters by satellite phone on behalf of the pirates holding Phillips, far off the Somali coast in the Indian Ocean. “We will defend ourselves if attacked.”

We need to make these fuckers fear going into bathwater after this.
Hear that mr. president?

393 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:52:16pm

re: #388 Gus 802

Anyone have an image of this mother ship?

I’m SURE teh USN does, as does the CIA and NSA

394 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:52:19pm

re: #376 Soona’

Remember though. We have glorious leader now. The MFMSM would say it was justified.

No, getting you or me killed is justified… killing our enemies is oppressive & would require another apologies tour.

395 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:52:23pm

re: #385 sattv4u2

WTF are you talking about ,, “previous action”. This is the SAME instance

Look, I’ll leave you to your imaginary scenario and I’ll stick to mine.

396 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:52:29pm

re: #390 avanti

Here we go again with assaults on my love of country, it’s getting lame and boring.

And TRUE.

397 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:52:40pm

re: #367 Gus 802

I think it’s because we’re discussing realistic alternatives. I don’t think there’s any plan to blow up the mother ship either since the hostage is on board.

The hostage is on board the Maesrk Alabama’s rescue dinghy.

398 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:53:01pm

re: #382 UberInfidel67

Blast them all out of the damn water. If I were the American hostage, I would gladly sacrifice myself just to take all these bastards out. There will be no negotiating. We cannot just wait them out. BOOM!

why not pay them off?

399 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:53:15pm

re: #395 Gus 802

Look, I’ll leave you to your imaginary scenario and I’ll stick to mine.

Problem for you is, mine is HAPPENING AT SEA NOW ,,, not in my imagination

Yours ,,,,, not so much

400 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:53:32pm

re: #346 mikalm

You must admit, though, there is something very special about a British pub. The word itself is a diminution of “public house,” which is to say, a meeting place for the community. I’ve always preferred the open, friendly atmosphere of pubs, whether in the UK or elsewhere, to the dark, liquor-gulping, neo-speakeasy environment of stereotypical American bars.

I know what you’re saying. But as much as I try I can’t stop my mind from thinking that every time I hear the words public house, I think public restroom.

401 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:53:36pm

re: #342 DaddyG

A Guiness a day keeps the Taliban away.

* * * * *
That’s good—and true!

Mmmmm Guiness—with vanilla ice cream too.

402 J.S.  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:53:39pm

re: #391 quickjustice

A CNN analyst stated that there are no RoE — that’s because this is not a military operation, but a police operation…(crimes committed, not acts of war — thus, the FBI involvement, etc.)

403 Lincolntf  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:53:39pm

re: #382 UberInfidel67

I think the Captain did his part already. He made a run for it and got no back- up. I have no interest in him sacrificing himself on behalf of a muddled policy that he has no way of understanding and that will ultimately serve little purpose.

404 Rancher  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:53:51pm

re: #377 Gus 802

You can’t engage the mother ship unless they first take hostile action. If the mother ship just sits there we can’t do anything unless they fire first.

Why not?

405 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:53:56pm

re: #388 Gus 802

Anyone have an image of this mother ship?

Yes, it is round, about the size of downtown Washington DC. There are thousands of little lights on it, and occasionally you can see smaller drone ships arriving and leaving from the mother ship.

406 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:53:58pm

re: #398 albusteve

Oh yeah…encouragement to keep doing it. Good idea/

407 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:54:36pm

re: #399 sattv4u2

Problem for you is, mine is HAPPENING AT SEA NOW ,,, not in my imagination

Yours ,,,,, not so much

Dude, mine is based on reality and not some Rambo movie.

408 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:54:47pm

re: #404 Rancher

Why not?

The mother ship already took action. It launched the skiff carrying the ones that boarded the cargo ship

409 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:55:01pm

re: #398 albusteve

why not pay them off?

Charles Krauthammer’s comment, when asked “is there a difference between a pirate and a terrorise” answered “Yes. Price”.

And in theory, at least, Jefferson’s rule still holds for this country.

410 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:55:17pm

re: #403 Lincolntf
I agree. I just want to see us FIGHT for once. Damn this pisses me off!

411 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:55:21pm

re: #405 Walter L. Newton

‘Independence Day’?

412 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:55:23pm

re: #405 Walter L. Newton

Yes, it is round, about the size of downtown Washington DC. There are thousands of little lights on it, and occasionally you can see smaller drone ships arriving and leaving from the mother ship.

look real close and you can see Ron Paul in the cockpit!

413 J.S.  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:55:31pm

re: #398 albusteve

you must have forgotten the sarc tag…

414 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:55:35pm

re: #407 Gus 802

Dude, mine is based on reality and not some Rambo movie.

“reality”,,, , saying that the SOURCE of the boarding has to commit ANOTHER crime before it can be called hostile!

415 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:56:06pm

Wait a minute— piracy on the open sea isn’t a matter for the U.S. Navy?

416 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:56:40pm

Ahoy-there!
The latest from TOTUS

417 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:56:42pm

Friday night, hells yeah.
Time for a nice glass of zin and a bit of classic blues.

418 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:56:49pm

re: #411 callahan23

‘Independence Day’?

Close Encounters.

419 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:57:05pm

So when the U.S. Marines stormed Tripoli, they were acting as a crime-fighting unit? LOL!

420 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:57:10pm

re: #407 Gus 802

here’s “reality” YOU think the captain (hostage) is on the mother ship.

421 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:57:29pm

Send in a SEAL scuba team to put a hole in the bottom of the boat.

422 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:57:31pm

re: #404 Rancher

Why not?

I’m talking about a naval action. SEALs on the other hand is a different matter. I’m saying any small scale action involving naval gun fire, etc.

423 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:58:01pm

I think there are 2 possible things going on here.

1) Obama may want to look tough ala Clinton in Wacko or That Gonzales kid and
could use this situation to do that.

OR
2) More likely, he will be afraid to pull the trigger, and will pay the ransom and
Treat this as a “legal” matter and issue arrest warrants for the Pirates. That
is ultimately how the Democrats want to fight terror anyway.

424 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:58:07pm

re: #406 UberInfidel67

Oh yeah…encouragement to keep doing it. Good idea/

you have not been following since yesterday…the window of opportunity passed long ago to rescue this guy….I have never insinuated that this go unpunished…I have been outspoken about it for months….you are way late to the game if you think I want this behavior encouraged….you are jumping to conclusions

425 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:58:10pm

re: #408 sattv4u2

The mother ship already took action. It launched the skiff carrying the ones that boarded the cargo ship

If a mother ship gets run over by a destroyer in the woods and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?

426 J.S.  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:58:16pm

re: #419 quickjustice

Get with the program — The Prez bows to foreign potentates and piracy is a “criminal” matter! It’s all about Change!

427 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:58:19pm

re: #420 sattv4u2

here’s “reality” YOU think the captain (hostage) is on the mother ship.

I already know that the hostage is on the life raft.

Are you drinking by any chance?

428 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:58:23pm

re: #402 J.S.

No rules of engagement? Consider the source—- CNN. If there are no rules of engagement, then no one is in command.

429 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:58:58pm

re: #398 albusteve

why not pay them off?

Because then you have demonstrated that a hostage has monetary value. They understand that and will act on it. Again, and again, and again.

430 Miss Trixie  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:59:04pm

re: #401 alegrias

* * * * *
That’s good—and true!

Mmmmm Guiness—with vanilla ice cream too.

When camping, pour a Guiness in Rice Krispies:

*snap*
*crackle*
.
.
.
.
.
.

*BUUUUUUUUUUUUURP!* :D

431 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:59:18pm

re: #413 J.S.

you must have forgotten the sarc tag…

no…I want the guy to live through this nightmare, don’t you?…what a coupla mil?

432 J.S.  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:59:31pm

re: #428 quickjustice

(be prepared for bungling is all I can say…)

433 Killian Bundy  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:59:37pm

It looks like the pirates’ plan is pretty simple. They’re bringing in more of their hostages to use as human shields while they just motor up to the lifeboat and retrieve their buddies and their newest hostage.

/then they’ll sail back to port while several U.S. warships just sit and watch the whole thing

434 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:59:44pm

re: #407 Gus 802

Dude, mine is based on reality and not some Rambo movie.

Whole bunch of Rambo’s on here. As much as I’d like to see some Navy on pirate action, I want to see the captain get home safely first.

435 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:59:48pm

re: #415 quickjustice

Wait a minute— piracy on the open sea isn’t a matter for the U.S. Navy?

If we give in to the pirates in any way, shape, or form, I see two things happening:
(a) a complete loss of ‘face’ for the country in the eyes of the world
(b) even more internal political polarization than we now have

If not, and the captain is a casualty:
(a) the captain becomes a national hero (rightly so)
(b) further attacks will cease on US flagged vessels for a long while.

436 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:59:55pm

re: #428 quickjustice

No rules of engagement? Consider the source—- CNN. If there are no rules of engagement, then no one is in command.

Consider who is in the White House?

437 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:00:34pm

re: #433 Killian Bundy

It looks like the pirates’ plan is pretty simple. They’re bringing in more of their hostages to use as human shields while they just motor up to the lifeboat and retrieve their buddies and their newest hostage.

/then they’ll sail back to port while several U.S. warships just sit and watch the whole thing

That sounds about right.

438 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:00:38pm

re: #433 Killian Bundy

It looks like the pirates’ plan is pretty simple. They’re bringing in more of their hostages to use as human shields while they just motor up to the lifeboat and retrieve their buddies and their newest hostage.

/then they’ll sail back to port while several U.S. warships just sit and watch the whole thing

This should have been dealt with days ago.

439 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:00:55pm

re: #427 Gus 802

I already know that the hostage is on the life raft.

Are you drinking by any chance?

Better go fix your #367,,,

“I think it’s because we’re discussing realistic alternatives. I don’t think there’s any plan to blow up the mother ship either since the hostage is on board.

440 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:00:58pm

re: #429 CyanSnowHawk

Because then you have demonstrated that a hostage has monetary value. They understand that and will act on it. Again, and again, and again.

oh boy….read up thread or whatever

441 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:01:15pm

re: #423 Nevergiveup

I think there are 2 possible things going on here.

1) Obama may want to look tough ala Clinton in Wacko or That Gonzales kid and
could use this situation to do that.

OR
2) More likely, he will be afraid to pull the trigger, and will pay the ransom and
Treat this as a “legal” matter and issue arrest warrants for the Pirates. That
is ultimately how the Democrats want to fight terror anyway.

Well, it’s evident that option one has come and passed already, and Democrats have no knowledge of how to issue an arrest warrant, so the hostage is screwed.

442 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:01:16pm

re: #398 albusteve

The U.S. Congress paid off the Barbary Pirates until 1800, when Thomas Jefferson decided to use a naval force instead. The ransoms and tribute payments to the pirates amounted to 20% of the entire budget of the federal government at the time.

443 J.S.  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:01:16pm

re: #431 albusteve

It’s been stated over and over again (MSM, etc.) that the United States government does not accede to kidnap demands. They can negotiate, but not pay ransom.

444 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:01:20pm

re: #428 quickjustice

No rules of engagement? Consider the source—- CNN. If there are no rules of engagement, then no one is in command.

This is a different source FrontPageMagazine:

thanks to the Bush administration’s initiative, the United Nations Security Council passed resolution 1851, which provided added powers for countries to interdict pirates off of Somalia’s coast by deploying naval vessels and military aircraft; seizing pirate boats and arms; and even pursuing pirates on the ground inside the country.
445 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:01:26pm

re: #421 Mr. In get Mr. Out

Send in a SEAL scuba team to put a hole in the bottom of the boat.

GMTA

446 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:01:27pm

I hate to go all 1963 on everybody..( I read this )
Can’t we just blockade Somali..Nothing goes in..nothing comes out..Remember Cuba ( I don’t)
The USA blockaded Cuba.. Now we have what 10 Navies trying to work together? Jeez a defensive blockade and convoy support…Everybody today goes in the same group or you go tomorrow.. Really..Is it that complex?

447 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:01:35pm

re: #424 albusteve

you have not been following since yesterday…the window of opportunity passed long ago to rescue this guy….I have never insinuated that this go unpunished…I have been outspoken about it for months….you are way late to the game if you think I want this behavior encouraged….you are jumping to conclusions

In this day and age, there will be no punishment for these animals. And I agree, the time to rescue this man is passed. If I were him, I be standing up shouting like a maniac. That way, when the pirates shoot my ass dead, our forces can move in an clean up the whole damn area of the pirates. Kinda like taking one for the team. To pay them off just encourages them to keep doing it. As for arresting them and trying them for a crime, who would have jurisdiction? Blow. Them. All. Out. Of. The. Water.

448 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:01:43pm

BBIAB

449 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:01:51pm

re: #433 Killian Bundy

It looks like the pirates’ plan is pretty simple. They’re bringing in more of their hostages to use as human shields while they just motor up to the lifeboat and retrieve their buddies and their newest hostage.

/then they’ll sail back to port while several U.S. warships just sit and watch the whole thing

and it will work…this time

450 Killian Bundy  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:01:53pm

re: #438 Bobblehead

This should have been dealt with days ago.

/ya think?

451 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:02:15pm

re: #434 avanti

Whole bunch of Rambo’s on here. As much as I’d like to see some Navy on pirate action, I want to see the captain get home safely first.

Well, don’t you try to help. Most you can do is make a cell phone call for Marines back up.

452 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:02:18pm

re: #437 Gus 802

That sounds about right.

Some Navy Spokesperson has already said that will not happen. Can’t remember where I read that.

453 jaunte  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:02:24pm

re: #446 HoosierHoops

It’s a large scale problem.

Pentagon officials say pirates are holding 15 ships off the Somali coast. And according to U.S. Navy statistics, pirates attacked four ships between Saturday and Monday.

The area involved — off the coast of Somalia and Kenya as well as the Gulf of Aden — equals more than 1.1 million square miles, roughly four times the size of Texas, or the size of the Mediterranean and Red Sea combined. The length of the Somali coastline is roughly the same length as the entire Eastern Seaboard of the United States, according to U.S. Navy statistics.
cnn.com

454 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:02:26pm

re: #439 sattv4u2

Better go fix your #367,,,

“I think it’s because we’re discussing realistic alternatives. I don’t think there’s any plan to blow up the mother ship either since the hostage is on board.

Oh, my mistake. I go a little rattled with your style.

455 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:02:38pm

re: #447 UberInfidel67

In this day and age, there will be no punishment for these animals. And I agree, the time to rescue this man is passed. If I were him, I be standing up shouting like a maniac. That way, when the pirates shoot my ass dead, our forces can move in an clean up the whole damn area of the pirates. Kinda like taking one for the team. To pay them off just encourages them to keep doing it. As for arresting them and trying them for a crime, who would have jurisdiction? Blow. Them. All. Out. Of. The. Water.

well you are not him….

456 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:02:39pm

re: #401 alegrias

* * * * *
That’s good—and true!

Mmmmm Guiness—with vanilla ice cream too.

20+ years as an active Mormon and I’m still waiting for Non-alcoholic Guiness. Sigh. I don’t suppose I make much of a market segment.

457 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:02:47pm

re: #434 avanti

Whole bunch of Rambo’s on here. As much as I’d like to see some Navy on pirate action, I want to see the captain get home safely first.

Fine. promise the pirates whatever they want, get the captain freed and then blow the fuck out of them. By definiton pirates don’t operate according to any rules so rules of negotiation should not apply to them either.And if the Pirates fucking Union or whatever the hell they have objects….blow the fuck out of them too.
No quarter for pirates.

458 J.S.  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:02:48pm

re: #435 jwb7605

I would add that there must be a swift punishment for all those involved in the act of piracy….in part two of the above scenario.

459 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:02:50pm

re: #398 albusteve

why not pay them off?

Then follow them back.

460 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:02:51pm

re: #75 Charles

Hoo boy. The hate mail is reaching new depths of craziness.

I’m sure your detractors are convinced that the End Times are drawing near. They’re trying to get their licks in before they get Raptured.

461 pat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:03:02pm

I have just posted a video of Hillary and her insane response to this situation. She is an ignorant fool.

462 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:03:03pm

Got, that is. Sheesh.

463 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:03:40pm

Koskidz: Glenn Beck on Fox: The militia movement will be televised

I think it’s a bit of a stretch. The vampire analogy is pretty common although I do think it’s pretty clear Beck is influenced to New World Order stuff. You can Google OPERATION VAMPIRE KILLER and read it online. It does seem like something Beck would be into but I don’t think the vampire analogy is evidence.

464 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:03:44pm

The Obama Administration: Returning the USA to 1789 on the high seas!/

465 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:03:45pm

re: #388 Gus 802

Anyone have an image of this mother ship?

ICC Commercial Crime Services

Go down the left hand side. You’ll see the following link:
Piracy Alert - 13 March 2009

Click on “Piracy Alert”. Scroll down the page it leads you to.

466 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:03:47pm

re: #443 J.S.

It’s been stated over and over again (MSM, etc.) that the United States government does not accede to kidnap demands. They can negotiate, but not pay ransom.

so kill the guy along with the Somalis on principle?….sacrifice him for money right?

467 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:03:53pm

Anyway, it’s out of our hands.

468 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:04:20pm

re: #445 jwb7605

GMTA

If you send a Seal Team, they are gonna put a few holes in a few pirates heads PDQ.

469 Russkilitlover  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:04:30pm

re: #433 Killian Bundy

It looks like the pirates’ plan is pretty simple. They’re bringing in more of their hostages to use as human shields while they just motor up to the lifeboat and retrieve their buddies and their newest hostage.

/then they’ll sail back to port while several U.S. warships just sit and watch the whole thing

And then the stakes get raised with hostages from multiple countries and ships. Yeah, this just keeps getting better! //

470 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:05:07pm

Out for the evening.
Everyone have a good night!

bear hug … {callahan23}

471 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:05:23pm

re: #445 jwb7605

GMTA

Sweet, we’ve come up with the same solution.

472 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:05:24pm

re: #461 pat

I have just posted a video of Hillary and her insane response to this situation. She is an ignorant fool.

What’d she do? Offer them a reset button?
/

473 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:05:34pm

re: #459 Soona’

Then follow them back.

we can find them….they have nowhere to hide and they are doomed…I want that sailor back and I don’t give a shit what it cost

474 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:05:38pm

re: #465 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thank you.

475 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:05:40pm

re: #466 albusteve

so kill the guy along with the Somalis on principle?….sacrifice him for money right?

Nobody said that

476 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:05:43pm

re: #470 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Have a great one.

477 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:05:47pm

re: #412 albusteve

look real close and you can see Ron Paul in the cockpit!

With Kuccinich co-piloting.

478 J.S.  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:06:00pm

re: #466 albusteve

Nooo…obviously not…you don’t “sacrifice” the captain. You negotiate for the captain’s return (but there’s no paying of ransom monies.)

479 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:06:11pm

Just utter the magic word: “Parlay”!/

480 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:06:24pm

re: #455 albusteve
I know I am not him. Chances are slim that he will survive though IMO. I say fuck the pirates…once they kill him, what do they have to bargain with. The loss of one may put a stop to the continuation of this shit over there. I am just angry and wish I had the chance to lash out at these assholes. I also wish the One would get off his ass and do something about it. Knowing that he won’t is very depressing.

/Just venting

481 USBeast  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:06:24pm

Divers with rebreathers (no bubbles) capsize boat, save captain. Assume pirates are excellent swimmers.

482 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:06:37pm

re: #479 quickjustice

Just utter the magic word: “Parlay”!/

Butter!

483 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:06:51pm

re: #457 LGoPs

Fine. promise the pirates whatever they want, get the captain freed and then blow the fuck out of them. By definiton pirates don’t operate according to any rules so rules of negotiation should not apply to them either.And if the Pirates fucking Union or whatever the hell they have objects….blow the fuck out of them too.
No quarter for pirates.

Absolfuckingutely The Navy already said the boat is going nowhere, but I fear the insurance companies might make a deal that would save the captain and thus the pirates.

484 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:07:02pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

Don’t watch network programing onSHOOT YOUR TELEVISION! Watch good movies and home improvement shows and aerobics/yoga with hot chicks and The Weather Channel and Board Stories…………

485 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:07:05pm

re: #475 Nevergiveup

Nobody said that

yes they have….

486 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:07:16pm

re: #474 Gus 802

Thank you.

Check out the rest of the site.
Some good stuff on there.

G’night!

487 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:07:22pm

I love a good lightning storm at dusk. Lots of fireworks here in North Georgia. BOOM! Crack!

How much curent can a PC mouse carry anyway?

488 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:07:38pm

re: #486 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Check out the rest of the site.
Some good stuff on there.

G’night!

Will do. Later!

489 debutaunt  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:08:14pm

re: #122 calcajun

Yes, nothing screams the death and resurrection or our Lord, Jesus like a giant friggin’ rodent delivering chocolate eggs.

HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAAA

490 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:08:48pm

re: #480 UberInfidel67

I know I am not him. Chances are slim that he will survive though IMO. I say fuck the pirates…once they kill him, what do they have to bargain with. The loss of one may put a stop to the continuation of this shit over there. I am just angry and wish I had the chance to lash out at these assholes. I also wish the One would get off his ass and do something about it. Knowing that he won’t is very depressing.

/Just venting

That’s the real tragedy here, the lack of The One making any meaningful actions toward settling this.

And having his bitch Hillary trying to fluff it all off like some fucking SNL skit.

Praise Obama… not.

491 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:08:55pm

re: #478 J.S.

Nooo…obviously not…you don’t “sacrifice” the captain. You negotiate for the captain’s return (but there’s no paying of ransom monies.)

that make no sense…why would they give the guy up without the money?…why is it about the money?…his life is at stake and it’s no time to try to be tricky

492 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:09:09pm

re: #456 DaddyG

20+ years as an active Mormon and I’m still waiting for Non-alcoholic Guiness. Sigh. I don’t suppose I make much of a market segment.

* * * * *
I prefer the ice cream to the Guiness in a Guiness Float—you’re not missing much!

493 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:09:15pm

re: #483 avanti

Absolfuckingutely The Navy already said the boat is going nowhere, but I fear the insurance companies might make a deal that would save the captain and thus the pirates.

I’ve got an even better solution. After we get the captain back, don’t kill the fuckers. Just disarm them and then kick them overboard and steam away. They’re hundreds of miles out at sea, right? Let the sharks deal with them.

494 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:09:15pm

re: #487 DaddyG

I love a good lightning storm at dusk. Lots of fireworks here in North Georgia. BOOM! Crack!

How much curent can a PC mouse carry anyway?

Enough……

495 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:09:20pm

More classic blues? Sure.

Howlin’ Wolf…. “Spoonful”.
You’re welcome.

496 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:09:24pm

re: #122 calcajun

Yes, nothing screams the death and resurrection or our Lord, Jesus like a giant friggin’ rodent delivering chocolate eggs.

If you haven’t seen South Park’s take on this topic…well, you just have to.

Summary here: en.wikipedia.org

Or watch it here: southparkstudios.com

497 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:10:19pm

re: #481 USBeast

Assume pirates are excellent swimmers.

Or hope that they aren’t.

498 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:10:32pm

re: #480 UberInfidel67

I know I am not him. Chances are slim that he will survive though IMO. I say fuck the pirates…once they kill him, what do they have to bargain with. The loss of one may put a stop to the continuation of this shit over there. I am just angry and wish I had the chance to lash out at these assholes. I also wish the One would get off his ass and do something about it. Knowing that he won’t is very depressing.

/Just venting

nobody has been more ANGRY than me over this deal….I want that sailor back, period

499 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:11:00pm

Our naval forces are probably sitting there with a plan and ready to act…but waiting on the word from the One, while he sits on his ass eating a specialty pizza!

500 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:11:02pm

re: #481 USBeast

Divers with rebreathers (no bubbles) capsize boat, save captain. Assume pirates are excellent swimmers.

Lets assume the sharks are better swimmers.

501 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:11:03pm

re: #497 Soona’

Or hope that they aren’t.

I think USBeast was being sarcastic about the swimming?

502 Opilio  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:11:30pm

re: #388 Gus 802

Anyone have an image of this mother ship?

Something like this.

503 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:11:47pm

re: #499 UberInfidel67

Our naval forces are probably sitting there with a plan and ready to act…but waiting on the word from the One, while he sits on his ass eating a specialty pizza!

Or waiting for dark which it is over there now.

504 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:11:48pm

re: #490 Walter L. Newton

That’s the real tragedy here, the lack of The One making any meaningful actions toward settling this.

And having his bitch Hillary trying to fluff it all off like some fucking SNL skit.

Praise Obama… not.

This reminds me of the Chinese incident when Bush took office.
We completely fucking gave in.

Bush’s reaction to and handling of 9/11 surprised me, to be honest.

505 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:11:48pm

re: #498 albusteve

nobody has been more ANGRY than me over this deal….I want that sailor back, period

* * * **
The White House said Obama is very concerned.

506 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:12:02pm

re: #495 Irish Rose

More classic blues? Sure.

Howlin’ Wolf…. “Spoonful”.
You’re welcome.


[Video]

finally….some cool sanity…thanks

507 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:12:09pm

re: #499 UberInfidel67

Our naval forces are probably sitting there with a plan and ready to act…but waiting on the word from the One, while he sits on his ass eating a specialty pizza!

It was his bad luck to get kidnapped on a Wednesday. He should have known the Obamas were having their weekly party.
//

508 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:12:41pm

re: #495 Irish Rose

More classic blues? Sure.

Howlin’ Wolf…. “Spoonful”.
You’re welcome.


[Video]

I read a great book the other day..The Children of the Blues..
It’s about all the children of old time blues players continuing the tradition..
Really a great read..

509 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:13:03pm

re: #493 LGoPs

I’ve got an even better solution. After we get the captain back, don’t kill the fuckers. Just disarm them and then kick them overboard and steam away. They’re hundreds of miles out at sea, right? Let the sharks deal with them.

Sharks not lawyers……..
Just wanted to clarify that……
*ducks for cover as lawyer lizards start circling*
:)

510 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:13:11pm

re: #491 albusteve

It’s about leverage. The only way the pirates give him up without payment is if they fear for their lives if they don’t, or they’re dead or disabled.

The Russians or Chinese would kill them all to make a larger point to the pirate “community”. Back to the shores of Tripoli— land a Marine expeditionary force outside a pirate stronghold, and sack it.

511 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:13:54pm

This is what happens when you’re so eager to attack Barack Obama that you don’t even care about whether you’re telling the truth:

Right Wing Slams Barack Obama For Ordering Pizza. Really.

512 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:13:56pm

re: #491 albusteve

that make no sense…why would they give the guy up without the money?…why is it about the money?…his life is at stake and it’s no time to try to be tricky

He is in this position because every time these pirates take a ship and some hostages, the shipping companies, through their insurers or directly, pay these criminals off. It has become another expense and they don’t seem to realize that it’s a losing game. It goes on and on until somebody, like Jefferson, stands up and says “no more.”

513 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:14:04pm

re: #504 jwb7605

This reminds me of the Chinese incident when Bush took office.
We completely fucking gave in.

Bush’s reaction to and handling of 9/11 surprised me, to be honest.

* * * * *
China was and is a nuclear armed powerful country that could cripple us if it wanted to, much as it pains me to say so.

4 somali thugs in a dinghy are not the equivalent of superpower China in such an incident.

514 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:14:06pm

Can a band of pirates run-off our President and the US Navy for a better payoff? We shall see: US flexes muscle in stand-off with Somali pirates

Change…you don’t want to believe.

515 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:14:08pm

re: #503 Nevergiveup

Or waiting for dark which it is over there now.

Nope. Tommorrow, the zero will get his “updates”. Nothing will change.

516 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:14:43pm

re: #507 DaddyG Of course…..stupid American./

517 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:15:08pm

re: #511 Charles

This is what happens when you’re so eager to attack Barack Obama that you don’t even care about whether you’re telling the truth:

Right Wing Slams Barack Obama For Ordering Pizza. Really.

Sigh. This is the kind of mentality that makes the “Shiny Things” strategy so effective.

518 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:15:15pm

re: #511 Charles

This is what happens when you’re so eager to attack Barack Obama that you don’t even care about whether you’re telling the truth:

Right Wing Slams Barack Obama For Ordering Pizza. Really.

Pizza-Gate

Can’t wait for Sandwich-Gate. No wait they’ve already don’t that.

519 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:15:17pm

re: #505 alegrias

* * * **
The White House said Obama is very concerned.

for himself, I’m sure….he hardly wants to kill a bunch of black barbarians that despise America…oh what to do?

520 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:15:25pm

re: #469 Russkilitlover

And then the stakes get raised with hostages from multiple countries and ships. Yeah, this just keeps getting better! //



It’s November 1979……..all over again.

521 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:15:41pm

I repeat: back to 1787, when the U.S. didn’t have a Navy.

522 J.S.  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:15:51pm

re: #491 albusteve

Well, I’m sure the pirates are aware that if there is no (that’s already been determined by United States policy) ransom money to be had (again, I’m assuming that this is already clear to all concerned — no ransom will be paid…this is a United States policy, set in stone since the days of the Barbary Pirates in Tripoli), then what other options (“good” options exist for the pirates?) Clearly, the pirates are either going to wind up dead or they will be spending the rest of their lives in a prison…those are the “negotiables.”

523 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:16:27pm

re: #498 albusteve

nobody has been more ANGRY than me over this deal….I want that sailor back, period

Enough to put every sailor that passes through that area in the future at additional risk apparently.

524 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:16:37pm

re: #515 Soona’

Nope. Tommorrow, the zero will get his “updates”. Nothing will change.

Obama is good at being present.

525 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:16:50pm

re: #515 Soona’

Nope. Tommorrow, the zero will get his “updates”. Nothing will change.

Time will tell.

526 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:16:56pm

re: #510 quickjustice

It’s about leverage. The only way the pirates give him up without payment is if they fear for their lives if they don’t, or they’re dead or disabled.

The Russians or Chinese would kill them all to make a larger point to the pirate “community”. Back to the shores of Tripoli— land a Marine expeditionary force outside a pirate stronghold, and sack it.

killing pirates is easy…saving an American citizen seems pretty difficult these days

527 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:17:15pm

re: #511 Charles
So he paid for it all himself and is concerned about the environment? Then he should have ridden a bicycle to DC. Flying coach pollutes the air as much as first class though, right?

528 Killian Bundy  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:17:26pm

re: #505 alegrias

The White House said Obama is very concerned.

No, they said it’s an ‘Annoying Distraction’ to TOTUS. Hillary is ‘deeply concerned’.

/that is, when she can stop laughing long enough

529 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:17:30pm

re: #522 J.S.

I believe the U.S. Navy has the assets and the talent to manage this. They just lack the leadership at the top.

530 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:17:51pm

re: #499 UberInfidel67

Our naval forces are probably sitting there with a plan and ready to act…but waiting on the word from the One, while he sits on his ass eating a specialty pizza!

Not likely. The Navy probably has option to act instantly if a opportunity presents itself, otherwise it’s keep talking and keep the captain alive. The oval office is too far out of the loop on operations like this, any POTUS leaves it to the military unless were talking international conflict.

531 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:18:15pm

re: #518 Gus 802

Garden Gate!
/Michelle’s white house veg garden

532 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:18:31pm
533 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:18:49pm

re: #506 albusteve

You think that’s sane?
Here’s my personal favorite, for a Friday evening after a long week… the *incomparable* Ms. Etta James.

534 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:18:54pm

re: #527 UberInfidel67

So he paid for it all himself and is concerned about the environment? Then he should have ridden a bicycle to DC. Flying coach pollutes the air as much as first class though, right?

I like Ace’s site, but this is not the first time he’s been too quick on the trigger with a story.
Maybe that’s Charles’ point?

535 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:19:23pm

re: #522 J.S.

Well, I’m sure the pirates are aware that if there is no (that’s already been determined by United States policy) ransom money to be had (again, I’m assuming that this is already clear to all concerned — no ransom will be paid…this is a United States policy, set in stone since the days of the Barbary Pirates in Tripoli), then what other options (“good” options exist for the pirates?) Clearly, the pirates are either going to wind up dead or they will be spending the rest of their lives in a prison…those are the “negotiables.”

the feds have nothing to say about it…the ship does not belong to the govt…the owners can do whatever they want…the feds have already fucked up this deal so bad that they should stay out of it til they have a plan to deal with all Somalian pirates

536 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:19:50pm

re: #531 Killgore Trout

Garden Gate!
/Michelle’s white house veg garden

How dare she plant a vegetable garden! Could you imagine!?

“It’s been less than 100 days and already Michelle Obama has planted a vegetable garden.”

//

537 Russkilitlover  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:20:07pm

re: #514 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Can a band of pirates run-off our President and the US Navy for a better payoff? We shall see: US flexes muscle in stand-off with Somali pirates

US Flexes Muscle, Bicep Droops Pathetically Under Arm.

538 Opilio  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:20:17pm

re: #532 Gus 802

Suspected Pirate Mother Vessels

OH. Those mother vessels.

539 Wilderstad  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:20:24pm

re: #534 jwb7605

Daily Mail in the U.K published the same story.
dailymail.co.uk

540 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:20:57pm

re: #523 CyanSnowHawk

Enough to put every sailor that passes through that area in the future at additional risk apparently.

you are really being obtuse…have you read nothing I’ve posted today or yesterday or a month ago?….you are way behind the curve

541 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:21:17pm

re: #539 Wilderstad

Daily Mail in the U.K published the same story.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]

LGF didn’t.

542 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:21:17pm

re: #511 Charles

This is what happens when you’re so eager to attack Barack Obama that you don’t even care about whether you’re telling the truth:

Right Wing Slams Barack Obama For Ordering Pizza. Really.

Yep.
Pathetic.

543 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:21:25pm

re: #530 avanti
I bet they are not allowed any options. He won remember? He is probably pouring through his law books and trying to find a way to serve a damn subpoena on these assholes. He is all balls and no dick. He doesn’t want to piss any other country off by exhibiting the superior fire and fighting ability of the US Navy. I say their hands are tied. And that sucks.

544 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:21:51pm

re: #536 Gus 802

How dare she plant a vegetable garden! Could you imagine!?

“It’s been less than 100 days and already Michelle Obama has planted a vegetable garden.”

//

I like the vegetable garden, myself.

545 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:22:02pm

Protecting U.S. merchant vessels and seamen isn’t within the purview of the U.S. Navy?

Gosh, I thought the Barbary Pirates were why the U.S. Navy was created!/

546 Wilderstad  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:22:15pm

re: #541 jwb7605
Your point?

547 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:22:21pm

re: #534 jwb7605
I don’t frequent Ace’s site. I just think the One’s priorities are skewered as are those who approve of him.

548 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:22:43pm

re: #538 Opilio

OH. Those mother vessels.

Yeah, they look like fishing boats.

549 razorbacker  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:22:48pm

I p*ss and moan about my country, but for all her faults, she hasn’t come to this…

Family of father stabbed to death by three thugs is denied compensation… because he tried to fight back

I guess I should add…yet.

Read the story, it’s only one page. Gives interesting insights into European sensibilities regarding crime and the responsibility of the individual for his or her own defense.

550 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:23:18pm

re: #547 UberInfidel67

I don’t frequent Ace’s site. I just think the One’s priorities are skewered as are those who approve of him.

You mean like Avanti?

551 Opilio  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:23:19pm

re: #547 UberInfidel67

I don’t frequent Ace’s site. I just think the One’s priorities are skewered as are those who approve of him.

skewered or skewed?

552 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:23:26pm

re: #530 avanti

Not likely. The Navy probably has option to act instantly if a opportunity presents itself, otherwise it’s keep talking and keep the captain alive. The oval office is too far out of the loop on operations like this, any POTUS leaves it to the military unless were talking international conflict.

I read a report early this morning that the Captain jumping out of the boat happened so quickly it caught the Navy by surprise..
Imagine this..n the middle of the night you jump out of the boat and a pirate fires an AK47 above your head..Where do you think you are going?
Very brave on the Captains part..But the Navy is blameless..there was nothing they could have done.

553 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:23:36pm

re: #528 Killian Bundy

No, they said it’s an ‘Annoying Distraction’ to TOTUS. Hillary is ‘deeply concerned’.


[Video]

/that is, when she can stop laughing long enough

It seems it’s Reuters that characterized it as an “annoying distraction”. From the Reuters story:

Ragtag teams of modern-day Blackbeards are posing an annoying distraction for Barack Obama, forcing him to add Somalia to an already long list of foreign policy challenges.

Do you think Reuters has any clue that part of the normal job of being President of the U.S. includes regularly dealing with a “long list of foreign policy challenges”?

And that characterizing the kidnapping of a US citizen and holding him for ramsom might, just might, would be better described as something more important than an “annoying distraction”?

I wish the O would make some sort of statement about this situation. Perhaps there are things going on behind the scenes that we aren’t aware of. Let’s hope.

554 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:23:38pm

re: #545 quickjustice

Protecting U.S. merchant vessels and seamen isn’t within the purview of the U.S. Navy?

Gosh, I thought the Barbary Pirates were why the U.S. Navy was created!/

Well I think beating back the British had something to do with that, but the Barbary Pirates came later.

555 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:23:54pm

re: #544 Irish Rose

I like the vegetable garden, myself.

Seems reasonable to me.

556 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:24:06pm

re: #530 avanti

Avanti, what should Obama do about this? What should be his next step, if you could advise him?

557 livefreeor die  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:24:12pm

re: #536 Gus 802

How dare she plant a vegetable garden! Could you imagine!?

“It’s been less than 100 days and already Michelle Obama has planted a vegetable garden.”

//

I was wondering what she planted already. Lettuce and peas probably. We live in the Philly suburbs and you don’t dare start any other vegetables until after May 15th.

558 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:24:37pm

re: #548 Gus 802

Yeah, they look like fishing boats.

they were

559 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:25:04pm

re: #550 Walter L. NewtonI don’t mind Avanti at all. If I disagree with him, I post my opposing view…as does he.

560 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:25:28pm

re: #557 livefreeor die

I was wondering what she planted already. Lettuce and peas probably. We live in the Philly suburbs and you don’t dare start any other vegetables until after May 15th.

I live in Michigan, I’ve had my tenders frostnipped in effing June.

561 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:25:29pm

re: #551 Opilio
LOL BOTH!

562 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:25:35pm

re: #351 sattv4u2

re: #341 Gus 802

re: #313 Rancher

Why are we talking about bombing the pirate base and/ or the lifeboat with the US captain on it. Why is the MOTHER SHIP not at the bottom of the ocean,,,, NOW !

The “mother ship,” such as it was, was a very small skiff that was used to board the American ship. It was sunk by the pirates as soon as they came on board, presumably to prevent escape - or defections.

When the American crew fought back, four of the pirates took the captain hostage and held him in a lifeboat, which they then insisted by put in the water. Apparently, the crew either drained the lifeboat of fuel or neglected to tell the pirates that it was empty. Hence the current situation.

There’s no “mother ship” to sink. The pirates use very small boats, sometimes in groups, that are stolen from various sources and which they don’t mind losing.

There seems to be an awful lot of chatter circulating that indicates a large Naval buildup in the area. Despite the somewhat disturbing enthusiasm for wanton destruction, the first concern is the hostages. As long as they remain safe and unthreatened, it’s fine with me if the Navy just lets them float there. They aren’t going anywhere, and neither are we.

The French raided another ship this afternoon, and one of the hostages on board was killed. Not an outcome to be wished for, and an easy outcome to reach if care isn’t exercised.

There’s plenty of time for retribution later. Right now, the emphasis ought to be on getting the captain and any other hostages safely released.

563 livefreeor die  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:25:48pm

re: #549 razorbacker

I p*ss and moan about my country, but for all her faults, she hasn’t come to this…

Family of father stabbed to death by three thugs is denied compensation… because he tried to fight back

I guess I should add…yet.

Read the story, it’s only one page. Gives interesting insights into European sensibilities regarding crime and the responsibility of the individual for his or her own defense.

It’s interesting how America seems to be one of the few countries whose citizens take pride in fighting back (i.e., current pirates situation, Flight 93).

564 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:25:48pm

re: #557 livefreeor die

I was wondering what she planted already. Lettuce and peas probably. We live in the Philly suburbs and you don’t dare start any other vegetables until after May 15th.

I used to live in South Jersey and the weather wouldn’t get “reliably” warm until early June some years.

565 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:25:56pm

re: #552 HoosierHoops

I read a report early this morning that the Captain jumping out of the boat happened so quickly it caught the Navy by surprise..
Imagine this..n the middle of the night you jump out of the boat and a pirate fires an AK47 above your head..Where do you think you are going?
Very brave on the Captains part..But the Navy is blameless..there was nothing they could have done.

not really…they had a ten second window of opportunity that they were not prepared for…

566 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:26:20pm

re: #537 Russkilitlover

US Flexes Muscle, Bicep Droops Pathetically Under Arm.

Jayzuz…I’m deathly afraid that is exactly what this idiot is going to put on display.

567 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:26:30pm

re: #533 Irish Rose

You think that’s sane?
Here’s my personal favorite, for a Friday evening after a long week… the *incomparable* Ms. Etta James.


[Video]

Etta James! I know her band leader…We went down to Nashville last year to watch them at the wild horse saloon. Like the kids say..That woman is dope..

568 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:26:38pm

re: #337 pre-Boomer Marine brat

btw, re your immediate earlier, did you get an email from reine and/or vx?

eh?

569 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:26:46pm

re: #560 Irish Rose

I live in Michigan, I’ve had my tenders frostnipped in effing June.

Wear a sweater at night. //

570 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:26:47pm

re: #549 razorbacker

I p*ss and moan about my country, but for all her faults, she hasn’t come to this…

Family of father stabbed to death by three thugs is denied compensation… because he tried to fight back

I guess I should add…yet.

Read the story, it’s only one page. Gives interesting insights into European sensibilities regarding crime and the responsibility of the individual for his or her own defense.

Some states have “duty to retreat” self defense laws, you literal can’t defend yourself until your back is against the wall.

571 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:27:28pm

re: #562 SixDegrees

Yeah, my understanding is that they basically use something like a skiff.

572 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:27:32pm

re: #557 livefreeor die

I was wondering what she planted already. Lettuce and peas probably. We live in the Philly suburbs and you don’t dare start any other vegetables until after May 15th.

* * * *
*She* didn’t plant anything, they had the trained professional White House chef Cristeta Comerford out there doing field hand work hoeing dirt.

Then they undercut the White House chef & staff to bring in scab labor from St. Louis to bake pizza.

573 livefreeor die  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:27:53pm

re: #560 Irish Rose

I live in Michigan, I’ve had my tenders frostnipped in effing June.

When we lived in Massachusetts, I didn’t plant until June 15. Pennsylvania seemed like heaven!

574 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:28:11pm

re: #567 HoosierHoops

Damned straight.

575 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:28:14pm

OOPs, Mets down 1 already in the first.

576 nyc redneck  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:28:37pm

i wonder what o has said to hamstring the military and the negotiators.
i’m sure even his weak attitude is a morale buster, not just his feeble words.
imagine how frustrated the navy is right now, sitting there waiting.

577 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:29:00pm

re: #531 Killgore Trout

Garden Gate!
/Michelle’s white house veg garden

Just to make a defensive strike, it cost $200 for the garden, not sure if it was on the tax payers dime.

578 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:29:20pm

re: #540 albusteve

re: #334 albusteve

right…the guy’s live is worth the money…if I could I’d pay it myself…he layed it all on the line…give them the fucking money

Give them the fucking money? And I’m being obtuse? Give the kidnappers what they wanted in the first place, and maybe they’ll go away?
How is that working down in Mexico right now?

579 UberInfidel67  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:29:24pm

re: #576 nyc redneck
I said it above….he is preparing subpoenas for the pirates.

580 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:29:25pm

re: #546 Wilderstad

Your point?

During the election and during the Israeli action, Charles had ample opportunity to post juicy stories and pictures quickly. He was frequently “several hours behind the curve” on a few stories.

He debunked a couple of faux photos in Rathergate fashion that started to make the rounds on the internet, and proved stuff like the Rathergate “throbbing memo” (I was on SBVFT at the time …)

I disagree with him philosophically on an issue or three.
That said, he runs the site (blog) that IMO contains the most accurate information of any of them.

What my point is boils down to who I trust, and how quickly I trust them.

Charles wins. I’m more like Ace on the political scale, but I trust Charles’ judgment better when it comes to publishing stories.

581 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:29:26pm

there have been pictures posted all over the net of these mother ships…they are big…at least 60-80 feet…towing the skiffs…3,4,5 that they use to assault the merchants

582 Lincolntf  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:29:48pm

re: #562 SixDegrees

Paradoxically, the longer the Captain is bound and captive on the drifting pirate boat the lower his chances of survival.

583 FrogMarch  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:30:08pm

re: #511 Charles

This is what happens when you’re so eager to attack Barack Obama that you don’t even care about whether you’re telling the truth:

Right Wing Slams Barack Obama For Ordering Pizza. Really.

I agree. Going after Obama for every little thing is a waste of time and it’s not helpful.

I read down a ways into your link and realized there’s a little BS flying the other way too.

John also told me that Chris Sommers is one of the most dedicated people he knows to the environmental cause.


* In fact, his restaurant buys carbon credits from a wind farm in Colorado.



ok, sure.

584 livefreeor die  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:30:12pm

re: #577 avanti

Just to make a defensive strike, it cost $200 for the garden, not sure if it was on the tax payers dime.

Goodness, how big is it? Our garden is big, we start most things from seed, and there is no way it’s $200.

585 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:30:17pm

re: #577 avanti

Just to make a defensive strike, it cost $200 for the garden, not sure if it was on the tax payers dime.

$200! The outrage! How dare she!

///

586 Bloodnok  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:30:22pm

re: #560 Irish Rose

I live in Michigan, I’ve had my tenders frostnipped in effing June.

That happened the last time I wore a kilt.

587 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:30:33pm

re: #480 UberInfidel67

I know I am not him. Chances are slim that he will survive though IMO. I say fuck the pirates…once they kill him, what do they have to bargain with. The loss of one may put a stop to the continuation of this shit over there. I am just angry and wish I had the chance to lash out at these assholes. I also wish the One would get off his ass and do something about it. Knowing that he won’t is very depressing.

/Just venting

At last count, there were at least three ships deployed to assist in this situation. From what I’m hearing, it sounds like there is a larger mobilization underway over the entire region. I’d say Obama is pretty clearly doing something. I don’t much care for him, but fair’s fair; so far, the response has been swift and extensive.

Blowing holes in the water is just going to get the captain killed. So far, there’s no reason for such action.

588 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:30:36pm

re: #554 Nevergiveup

Nope. We relied on the French and Spanish navies for the vast majority of our naval support during the Revolution. The Barbary Pirates were the primary reason we began constructing our own.

589 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:31:05pm

re: #576 nyc redneck

i wonder what o has said to hamstring the military and the negotiators.
i’m sure even his weak attitude is a morale buster, not just his feeble words.
imagine how frustrated the navy is right now, sitting there waiting.

I wouldn’t jump to that conclusion just yet. Ya gotta let this play out still. I am not so sure that time isn’t on our side.

590 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:31:37pm

re: #565 albusteve

not really…they had a ten second window of opportunity that they were not prepared for…

10 seconds Steve? 10 seconds? What if i had punched a pirate and knocked him into the water? Everybody dies in the boat including the Captain?
10 seconds? We got pros out there..When it comes time for action.I trust the Navy…
/How are you tonight Steve?

591 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:32:05pm

re: #563 livefreeor die

It’s interesting how America seems to be one of the few countries whose citizens take pride in fighting back (i.e., current pirates situation, Flight 93).

That is what this administration fears the most. And it will do its best to neutralize that American characteristic.

592 quickjustice  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:33:01pm

re: #563 livefreeor die

From the beginning, Americans have fought back. It’s why the British closed the Port of Boston. That precipitated the War.

593 livefreeor die  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:33:05pm

re: #591 Soona’

That is what this administration fears the most. And it will do its best to neutralize that American characteristic.

They’ll never neutralize it in my household.

594 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:33:41pm

re: #584 livefreeor die

Goodness, how big is it? Our garden is big, we start most things from seed, and there is no way it’s $200.

That probably includes garden equipment.

Although, have you seen the price of arugula lettuce seeds these days? ///

595 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:33:43pm

re: #578 CyanSnowHawk

re: #334 albusteve

Give them the fucking money? And I’m being obtuse? Give the kidnappers what they wanted in the first place, and maybe they’ll go away?
How is that working down in Mexico right now?

you are being dim witted…why do you keep persuing this line….I have never posted about appeasing the pirates until yesterday…my aggressive attitude toward them goes back to last summer….give it up

596 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:34:13pm
597 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:34:26pm

re: #590 HoosierHoops

10 seconds Steve? 10 seconds? What if i had punched a pirate and knocked him into the water? Everybody dies in the boat including the Captain?
10 seconds? We got pros out there..When it comes time for action.I trust the Navy…
/How are you tonight Steve?

I trust the Navy…. CinC is another matter right now.

598 Steve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:34:34pm

re: #590 HoosierHoops

10 seconds Steve? 10 seconds? What if i had punched a pirate and knocked him into the water? Everybody dies in the boat including the Captain?
10 seconds? We got pros out there..When it comes time for action.I trust the Navy…
/How are you tonight Steve?

What a minute! What have I got 10 seconds for or to do?

599 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:35:03pm

Fear not, there’s 28 countries involved in the Pirate Contact Group committee, working out an international solution, just as soon as they decide which country’s tea or coffee or beverage is culturally sensitive enough to serve to the whole group during am & pm breaks and at lunch, or after siesta.

Then they’ll take up piracy problems.

////

600 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:35:09pm

re: #584 livefreeor die

Goodness, how big is it? Our garden is big, we start most things from seed, and there is no way it’s $200.

It’s big enough to provide homegrown produce for the White House Kitchens. They’re even putting in bees to produce organic honey. It’s a very impressive project.

601 livefreeor die  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:36:09pm

re: #600 Irish Rose

It’s big enough to provide homegrown produce for the White House Kitchens. They’re even putting in bees to produce organic honey. It’s a very impressive project.

I hope the bees know they’re supposed to avoid any flowers with pesticides in them :)

602 Wilderstad  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:36:15pm

re: #580 jwb7605

Fine. Mine was simply a declaration of fact. Nothing more.

603 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:36:16pm

re: #596 Iron Fist

This kind of mission is exactly what they have SEAL teams for. I’ll let those bad boys make the call to pull the trigger, and have no doubt that when they do pull the trigger they will excel at what they do so well.

There isn’t a SEAL that isn’t just itching to get into this one. It’s what they’ve trained for years to do.

604 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:36:46pm

Hillary Clinton Tries to Pay Down Debt By Raffling Off Day With Her Husband
The secretary of state’s long-shuttered presidential campaign is still trying to pay off a steep debt, and has launched a new fundraising pitch urging donors to give money and compete for the chance to win one of three “exclusive prizes.” One of those is a day with Bill Clinton.

foxnews.com

Yup, that’s dignified?

605 razorbacker  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:36:49pm

re: #570 jcm

Some states have “duty to retreat” self defense laws, you literal can’t defend yourself until your back is against the wall.

I believe that the various factions are ‘Castle Doctrine’, ‘Stand Your Ground’, and ‘Duty to Retreat’.

I’d be interested to hear where in the U.S. each applies.

606 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:36:56pm

re: #590 HoosierHoops

10 seconds Steve? 10 seconds? What if i had punched a pirate and knocked him into the water? Everybody dies in the boat including the Captain?
10 seconds? We got pros out there..When it comes time for action.I trust the Navy…
/How are you tonight Steve?

okay, and you?…but I doubt there were Marine snipers aboard the destroyer…at the time I hoped they were being watched every second with guns trained…it didn’t happen…the big boys are now showing up but what can they do?…any suggestions that saves the skip?

607 livefreeor die  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:37:28pm

re: #604 Nevergiveup

Hillary Clinton Tries to Pay Down Debt By Raffling Off Day With Her Husband
The secretary of state’s long-shuttered presidential campaign is still trying to pay off a steep debt, and has launched a new fundraising pitch urging donors to give money and compete for the chance to win one of three “exclusive prizes.” One of those is a day with Bill Clinton.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Yup, that’s dignified?

Yet another dirty joke that writes itself.

608 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:38:08pm

re: #604 Nevergiveup

Hillary Clinton Tries to Pay Down Debt By Raffling Off Day With Her Husband
The secretary of state’s long-shuttered presidential campaign is still trying to pay off a steep debt, and has launched a new fundraising pitch urging donors to give money and compete for the chance to win one of three “exclusive prizes.” One of those is a day with Bill Clinton.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Yup, that’s dignified?

OMG that’s funny!
She’s trying to give him away!
LOLOL!

609 Bloodnok  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:38:08pm

re: #601 livefreeor die

I hope the bees know they’re supposed to avoid any flowers with pesticides in them :)

To save money on a gnome Dennis Kucinich can stand motionless in the garden wearing a pointed hat.

610 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:38:13pm

re: #585 Gus 802

$200! The outrage! How dare she!

///

She is probably making the Marine guards do all the plowing and planting.

611 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:39:10pm

re: #572 alegrias

Then they undercut the White House chef & staff to bring in scab labor from St. Louis to bake pizza.

Before you keep repeating this bogus story, you might want to read this.

612 Steve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:39:20pm

re: #610 Soona’

She is probably making the Marine guards do all the plowing and planting.

You can turn over a lot of dirt with some C4.

613 itellu3times  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:39:27pm

re: #565 albusteve

not really…they had a ten second window of opportunity that they were not prepared for…

At least ten seconds.

Either there could have been SEALS waiting to help, or with the captain out of the lifeboat, it could have been blasted. Probably what the captain expected. Sorry he was wrong.

This whole thing is so pathetic.

614 Lincolntf  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:39:32pm

re: #604 Nevergiveup

That’s like auctioning off a day with “Quagmire” from Family Guy.
Lock up the gals.

615 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:39:50pm

re: #609 Bloodnok

To save money on a gnome Dennis Kucinich can stand motionless in the garden wearing a pointed hat.

Pelosi can be the scarecrow.

616 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:39:54pm

re: #610 Soona’

She is probably making the Marine guards do all the plowing and planting.

Some of them might like that after standing at attention all day.

617 livefreeor die  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:40:02pm

re: #604 Nevergiveup

Hillary Clinton Tries to Pay Down Debt By Raffling Off Day With Her Husband
The secretary of state’s long-shuttered presidential campaign is still trying to pay off a steep debt, and has launched a new fundraising pitch urging donors to give money and compete for the chance to win one of three “exclusive prizes.” One of those is a day with Bill Clinton.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Yup, that’s dignified?


Second prize, two days with Bill Clinton.

618 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:40:13pm

re: #612 Steve

You can turn over a lot of dirt with some C4.

fire in the hole!….carrots
fire in the hole!…beets

619 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:40:15pm

re: #565 albusteve

not really…they had a ten second window of opportunity that they were not prepared for…

And what, exactly, was it they are supposed to have done? You’ve got the captain in the water, followed almost instantly by two of the pirates, who dragged him back to the lifeboat. What’s your plan? Start shooting at the tight cluster of men in the water, at midnight, from a few hundred yards off?

This isn’t a movie.

620 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:40:30pm

re: #594 Gus 802

That probably includes garden equipment.

Although, have you seen the price of arugula lettuce seeds these days? ///

It was big, and looks like lots of top soil and fancy little signs for the school kids.

621 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:40:44pm
622 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:40:46pm

re: #615 DaddyG

Pelosi can be the scarecrow.

What do you mean can be?

623 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:40:53pm

re: #595 albusteve

you are being dim witted…why do you keep persuing this line….I have never posted about appeasing the pirates until yesterday…my aggressive attitude toward them goes back to last summer….give it up

The problem is how you are acting now, not then. Appeasement is wrong today, just like it was before you decided it wasn’t. It appears that it is your wits that have begun to dim.

You are letting the looters take what is yours.

And on that note, I’m headed home from work. Bye all, have a good night.

624 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:41:00pm

re: #611 Charles

Before you keep repeating this bogus story, you might want to read this.

Ace is promoting this? That’s sad.

625 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:41:09pm

re: #608 reine.de.tout

OMG that’s funny!
She’s trying to give him away!
LOLOL!

It’s funny yet embarrassing in the extreme.

626 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:41:36pm

Oh noes! Pizza haz been eated!
/Why won’t he show us da crust?

627 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:41:37pm

re: #605 razorbacker

I believe that the various factions are ‘Castle Doctrine’, ‘Stand Your Ground’, and ‘Duty to Retreat’.

I’d be interested to hear where in the U.S. each applies.

WA is a stand your ground state. Case law makes it practically a Castle Law state. The person defending has to articulate a reasonable fear of serious injury or death. That has been frequently interpreted as I was afraid he was in my house.

628 jaunte  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:41:44pm

re: #604 Nevergiveup

Hillary Clinton Tries to Pay Down Debt By Raffling Off Day With Her Husband
The secretary of state’s long-shuttered presidential campaign is still trying to pay off a steep debt, and has launched a new fundraising pitch urging donors to give money and compete for the chance to win one of three “exclusive prizes.” One of those is a day with Bill Clinton.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Yup, that’s dignified?

Our Secretary of State. What a proud moment.

629 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:42:03pm

re: #620 avanti

It was big, and looks like lots of top soil and fancy little signs for the school kids.

Ah. Actually, if you add a brochure since it does become a White House artifact if you will 200 bucks might be the low end. Meaning that they do tend to artifact White House activity and such.

630 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:42:19pm

re: #613 itellu3times

At least ten seconds.

Either there could have been SEALS waiting to help, or with the captain out of the lifeboat, it could have been blasted. Probably what the captain expected. Sorry he was wrong.

This whole thing is so pathetic.

there were no Seals…Seals don’t ride around on destroyers….getting all that stuff takes time…if you fly them in the pirates are hip to it…non of it is as simple as repelling the pirates in the first place

631 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:42:58pm

re: #626 Killgore Trout

Oh noes! Pizza haz been eated!
/Why won’t he show us da crust?

Heh

632 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:43:08pm

re: #604 Nevergiveup

Hillary Clinton Tries to Pay Down Debt By Raffling Off Day With Her Husband
The secretary of state’s long-shuttered presidential campaign is still trying to pay off a steep debt, and has launched a new fundraising pitch urging donors to give money and compete for the chance to win one of three “exclusive prizes.” One of those is a day with Bill Clinton.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Yup, that’s dignified?

Only women are allowed to participate. (that’s got to be part of the rules)

633 Lincolntf  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:43:10pm

re: #628 jaunte

This time I’m the one laughing uncontrollably.

634 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:43:26pm

re: #619 SixDegrees

And what, exactly, was it they are supposed to have done? You’ve got the captain in the water, followed almost instantly by two of the pirates, who dragged him back to the lifeboat. What’s your plan? Start shooting at the tight cluster of men in the water, at midnight, from a few hundred yards off?

This isn’t a movie.

If it was a movie, it would be one Seal with a knife.

635 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:43:59pm

re: #590 HoosierHoops

10 seconds Steve? 10 seconds? What if i had punched a pirate and knocked him into the water? Everybody dies in the boat including the Captain?
10 seconds? We got pros out there..When it comes time for action.I trust the Navy…
/How are you tonight Steve?

I would agree that the Navy is to be trusted. The Monday-morning quarterbacking and convoluted spinning being done simply to find a way to lay blame at the Administration’s feet in this incident is wearing more than a little thin. This is the same kind of shit that’s been spewed from places like DK and DU for years, that myself and so many here have railed against.

The Navy is on the scene. No one here is. Stop trying to second guess something you know absolutely nothing about and have no expertise in at all.

636 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:44:00pm

re: #634 avanti

If it was a movie, it would be one Seal with a knife.

In his mid 40s.

//

637 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:44:02pm

re: #630 albusteve

there were no Seals…Seals don’t ride around on destroyers….getting all that stuff takes time…if you fly them in the pirates are hip to it…non of it is as simple as repelling the pirates in the first place

You think the only way seals get to a combat zone is to fly in?

638 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:44:03pm

re: #626 Killgore Trout

Oh noes! Pizza haz been eated!
/Why won’t he show us da crust?

Avanti took a bunch of flak yesterday, I think it was, over this pizza business.

639 Steve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:44:07pm

re: #618 albusteve

fire in the hole!….carrots
fire in the hole!…beets

Hope that everything they plant does not come up corn as in Second Hand Lions.

640 Opilio  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:44:18pm

re: #605 razorbacker

I believe that the various factions are ‘Castle Doctrine’, ‘Stand Your Ground’, and ‘Duty to Retreat’.

I’d be interested to hear where in the U.S. each applies.

Well then, here you go!

641 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:44:34pm

re: #403 Lincolntf

I think the Captain did his part already. He made a run for it and got no back- up. I have no interest in him sacrificing himself on behalf of a muddled policy that he has no way of understanding and that will ultimately serve little purpose.

I want that brave man saved.

642 Truck Monkey  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:44:45pm

re: #604 Nevergiveup

Hillary Clinton Tries to Pay Down Debt By Raffling Off Day With Her Husband
The secretary of state’s long-shuttered presidential campaign is still trying to pay off a steep debt, and has launched a new fundraising pitch urging donors to give money and compete for the chance to win one of three “exclusive prizes.” One of those is a day with Bill Clinton.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Yup, that’s dignified?

I would LOVE to spend a day with Bubba. I think that he is probably one of the more interesting personalities that we have ever had as President.

643 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:45:19pm

re: #642 Truck Monkey

I would LOVE to spend a day with Bubba. I think that he is probably one of the more interesting personalities that we have ever had as President.

Maybe, but you wanta pay for it?

644 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:45:30pm

re: #619 SixDegrees

And what, exactly, was it they are supposed to have done? You’ve got the captain in the water, followed almost instantly by two of the pirates, who dragged him back to the lifeboat. What’s your plan? Start shooting at the tight cluster of men in the water, at midnight, from a few hundred yards off?

This isn’t a movie.

I don’t have a plan…there was a few seconds when the destroyer could have fired on the lifeboat in a perfect scenario….I speculate, not judge…it didn’t happen….at the time there was no information that the destroyer was standing off a few hundred yards…I don’t criticize anyone for not shooting up the life boat

645 Steve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:45:39pm

re: #629 Gus 802

Ah. Actually, if you add a brochure since it does become a White House artifact if you will 200 bucks might be the low end. Meaning that they do tend to artifact White House activity and such.

Where is the bill?

646 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:45:58pm

re: #634 avanti

If it was a movie, it would be one Seal Chuck Norris with a knife.

FIFY

647 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:46:47pm

re: #645 Steve

Where is the bill?

Maybe part of a White House general fund. I won’t venture a guess.

648 razorbacker  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:46:47pm

re: #627 jcm

WA is a stand your ground state. Case law makes it practically a Castle Law state. The person defending has to articulate a reasonable fear of serious injury or death. That has been frequently interpreted as I was afraid he was in my house.

I’ve lived in states all over this country, and whenever possible I’ve lived in rural areas. I believe it to be smart to check with the local law enforcement authorities to guage their opinions on self-defense.

The general concensus has boiled down to, “I’ve never arrested anyone for shooting someone that fell dead lying on the threshold.”

Generally followed by, *whispered* “We don’t spend a whole lot of time looking at drag marks in the lawn, either.”

649 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:46:59pm

re: #632 Soona’

Only women are allowed to participate. (that’s got to be part of the rules)

Ick! There isn’t enough disinfectant soap in the world to cleanse me if I had to get within an inch of that man. Ick!

650 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:47:07pm

Madoff’s Mets opener seats at $1,925

sports.espn.go.com

So someone is paying $ 1,925 for 2 tickets who’s combined face value is $550? Madoff is still ripping people off I see?

651 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:47:18pm

re: #646 DaddyG

Chuck don’t need no stinking pig sticker. ;)

652 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:47:22pm

0bama has to be laughing his ass off that his detractors are attacking a pizza instead of his policies. Socialism is slavery to the state, but let’s be sure to go after him for a pizza.

And we wonder why we can’t win elections these days.

653 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:47:41pm

re: #637 Nevergiveup

You think the only way seals get to a combat zone is to fly in?

no…did I say that?

654 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:48:02pm

re: #570 jcm

Some states have “duty to retreat” self defense laws, you literal can’t defend yourself until your back is against the wall.

By states do you mean here in the United States?

655 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:48:02pm

re: #650 Nevergiveup

Madoff’s Mets opener seats at $1,925

[Link: sports.espn.go.com…]

So someone is paying $ 1,925 for 2 tickets who’s combined face value is $550? Madoff is still ripping people off I see?

OOps I mean 1050 face value

656 jaunte  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:48:06pm

Pizza bill + garden bill + nirth cert. =
en.wikipedia.org

657 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:48:07pm
658 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:48:12pm

re: #652 Sharmuta

0bama has to be laughing his ass off that his detractors are attacking a pizza instead of his policies. Socialism is slavery to the state, but let’s be sure to go after him for a pizza.

And we wonder why we can’t win elections these days.

Axelrod is loving every minute of it.

Call this reverse sock puppetry.

659 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:48:14pm

re: #640 Opilio

Well then, here you go!

Georgia - no duty to retreat anywhere. Kids get the garden tools we have an univited guest!

660 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:48:20pm

re: #653 albusteve

no…did I say that?

Just joking

661 J.S.  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:48:27pm

re: #584 livefreeor die

From what I’ve read Michelle’s garden is a 1,100 square foot plot…(fairly large). (I think it’s a great idea.)

662 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:48:30pm

re: #638 reine.de.tout

Avanti took a bunch of flak yesterday, I think it was, over this pizza business.

Yea, should have waited for Charles to take the point on that one.:)

663 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:48:37pm

re: #654 LGoPs

By states do you mean here in the United States?

Yes he does, and there are several.

664 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:48:39pm

re: #606 albusteve

okay, and you?…but I doubt there were Marine snipers aboard the destroyer…at the time I hoped they were being watched every second with guns trained…it didn’t happen…the big boys are now showing up but what can they do?…any suggestions that saves the skip?


Hey Bro!
Really I have no answers..I worked for the Navy as a Civilian building Nuclear Subs for 20 years..I believe I know the Navy..They are professionals and I deeply respect their judgment.

665 USBeast  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:48:56pm

I’ve got an idea! Put the ransom money in a bag and air drop it close to the boat, close enough to swim to but far enough that they have to. Let them know that they can swim to the money safely only after the captain is hauled up to a chopper in one piece. Retrieve captain. Sink boat. Don’t bother retrieving bag. It should be filled with shredded New York Times.

666 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:49:00pm

Give the pirates a million of these…..

667 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:49:24pm

re: #658 Gus 802

Axelrod is loving every minute of it.

Call this reverse sock puppetry.

Relax the Press conference denial of bowing is still getting more play

668 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:49:25pm

re: #660 Nevergiveup

Just joking

they swim too, I hear

669 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:49:42pm

re: #636 Gus 802

In his mid 40s.

//

Long curly hair and a bandanna.

670 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:49:43pm

re: #652 Sharmuta

0bama has to be laughing his ass off that his detractors are attacking a pizza instead of his policies. Socialism is slavery to the state, but let’s be sure to go after him for a pizza.

And we wonder why we can’t win elections these days.

Sometimes I believe everything he does is calculated to act as a distraction to the issues the Republicans should be concentrating on.

671 Jackba  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:49:51pm

Maybe this is the team they are waiting on.

Virgina class

672 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:49:55pm

re: #651 DEZes

Chuck don’t need no stinking pig sticker. ;)

Chuck Norris doesn’t sink pirate ships, he lifts the ocean up over them.

673 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:49:55pm

re: #667 Nevergiveup

Relax the Press conference denial of bowing is still getting more play

I know. I saw that.

674 brookly red  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:49:57pm

re: #652 Sharmuta

0bama has to be laughing his ass off that his detractors are attacking a pizza instead of his policies. Socialism is slavery to the state, but let’s be sure to go after him for a pizza.

And we wonder why we can’t win elections these days.

it will always come down to pizza…

675 USBeast  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:50:38pm

re: #608 reine.de.tout

OMG that’s funny!
She’s trying to give him away!
LOLOL!

He gave himself away a long time ago. He’s still trying to live it down…and failing.

676 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:51:26pm

re: #665 USBeast

I’ve got an idea! Put the ransom money in a bag and air drop it close to the boat, close enough to swim to but far enough that they have to. Let them know that they can swim to the money safely only after the captain is hauled up to a chopper in one piece. Retrieve captain. Sink boat. Don’t bother retrieving bag. It should be filled with shredded New York Times.

The last time they did an air drop of money to pirates, I believe their boat did capsize and they all drowned? No kidding. I mean none of these pirates belong to Mensa!

677 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:51:34pm

re: #664 HoosierHoops

Hey Bro!
Really I have no answers..I worked for the Navy as a Civilian building Nuclear Subs for 20 years..I believe I know the Navy..They are professionals and I deeply respect their judgment.

of course…they are the best in the world….this situation escalated beyond control very fast….I just want that skipper back alive and I don’t give a shit what it cost….after that there is unfinished business

678 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:51:38pm

re: #638 reine.de.tout

Avanti took a bunch of flak yesterday, I think it was, over this pizza business.

I wasn’t following the story but I guess that means he gets gloating rights today.

679 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:51:46pm

re: #672 DaddyG

Chuck Norris doesn’t sink pirate ships, he lifts the ocean up over them.

He can cause a tidal wave to engulf the ships with the clap of his hands. ;)

680 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:51:48pm

re: #669 avanti

Long curly hair and a bandanna.

Long haired SEAL guy with a knife in his mouth and a bandana to the rescue!

In his mid 40s.

He loses his knife in the ensuing struggle but improvises a weapon with sea kelp.

///

681 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:52:11pm
682 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:52:37pm

re: #648 razorbacker

I’ve lived in states all over this country, and whenever possible I’ve lived in rural areas. I believe it to be smart to check with the local law enforcement authorities to guage their opinions on self-defense.

The general concensus has boiled down to, “I’ve never arrested anyone for shooting someone that fell dead lying on the threshold.”

Generally followed by, *whispered* “We don’t spend a whole lot of time looking at drag marks in the lawn, either.”

LOL!

Mason Co. (WA) is looking at cutting back on deputies. It’s democrat State Rep. said residents understood that giving criminals a lead enema might be necessary.

683 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:52:55pm

re: #671 Jackba

Maybe this is the team they are waiting on.

Virgina class

Who say’s they are waiting for it?

684 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:53:16pm

re: #678 Killgore Trout

I wasn’t following the story but I guess that means he gets gloating rights today.

ah, no

685 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:53:58pm

re: #674 brookly red

it will always come down to pizza…

Mmmmmmm. Piiiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzaaaaa.
/Homer off

686 nyc redneck  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:54:26pm

re: #579 UberInfidel67

I said it above….he is preparing subpoenas for the pirates.

i bet not.
i’m sure he truly empathizes w/ these hard pressed somali moslems
who are only doing what any oppressed people would do to survive.
i wonder if he is even capable of calling them pirates.
or is the new p.c term “hungry seafaring opportunists”

btw, these pirates are part of the group of 3rd worlders who o said we must
answer to for eating all we want and keeping our thermostat up as high as
we want.

687 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:54:33pm

re: #481 USBeast

Divers with rebreathers (no bubbles) capsize boat, save captain. Assume pirates are excellent swimmers.

The lifeboat they’re in is 28 feet long, designed to withstand heavy swells and waves. I’m not seeing it capsizing easily.

688 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:54:56pm

re: #654 LGoPs

By states do you mean here in the United States?

Yes, some it’s not many. Most states are at a minimum stand your ground.

689 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:55:57pm

re: #687 SixDegrees

The lifeboat they’re in is 28 feet long, designed to withstand heavy swells and waves. I’m not seeing it capsizing easily.

Air drop the ransom in rolls of pennies. That could work.

690 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:56:16pm

re: #686 nyc redneck

i bet not.
i’m sure he truly empathizes w/ these hard pressed somali moslems
who are only doing what any oppressed people would do to survive.
i wonder if he is even capable of calling them pirates.
or is the new p.c term “hungry seafaring opportunists”

btw, these pirates are part of the group of 3rd worlders who o said we must
answer to for eating all we want and keeping our thermostat up as high as
we want.

That’s “Poor, hungry, seafaring opportunists” if you don’t mind.

691 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:56:31pm

re: #662 avanti

Yea, should have waited for Charles to take the point on that one.:)

Prolly.
Doesn’t change my opinion, however, that the O is arrogant and out of touch with “the little people” (like, moi, for instance).

692 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:56:39pm

re: #611 Charles

Before you keep repeating this bogus story, you might want to read this.

* * *
Thank you, Charles, for posting that again.

It is a fact White House top chef Cristeta Comerford was hoeing the garden like a field hand the first day out.

It’s possible the White House’s chef & kitchen staff took the weekend off, so the St. Louis pizza maker solved a staffing problem by offering to cook pizza for the President.

In which case I salute the patriotic pizza maker and stand corrected he didn’t diss the White House chef & kitchen.

693 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:57:12pm

re: #685 Soona’

Mmmmmmm. Piiiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzaaaaa.
/Homer off

Melting mozzarella cheese on a bed of tomato sauce and soft dough dripping with olive oil topped with fresh chopped garlic and pepperoni slices.

694 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:58:01pm

re: #678 Killgore Trout

I wasn’t following the story but I guess that means he gets gloating rights today.


If it were me, I’d be gloating.
So I’d give him a pass on a gloat or two.

695 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:58:16pm

re: #693 Gus 802

Melting mozzarella cheese on a bed of tomato sauce and soft dough dripping with olive oil topped with fresh chopped garlic and pepperoni slices.

Great. How do I get bite marks off of my mousepad?

696 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:58:46pm

Let’s see, Obama flew in a chef 830 miles just to make him a pizza. Will he also fly in a cosmetic surgeon 2000 miles to give Michele FAKE BOOBS. It seems anything is possible with this administration.

697 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:58:47pm

re: #693 Gus 802

Melting mozzarella cheese on a bed of tomato sauce and soft dough dripping with olive oil topped with fresh chopped garlic and pepperoni slices.

Leave out the fresh garlic(no can digest) and it sound yummy.

698 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:59:31pm

re: #695 DaddyG

Great. How do I get bite marks off of my mousepad?

Oops. I’m tempted to order a pizza now.

699 USBeast  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:59:41pm

re: #687 SixDegrees

The lifeboat they’re in is 28 feet long, designed to withstand heavy swells and waves. I’m not seeing it capsizing easily.

We are talking about the United States Navy. I have more faith in them than I do in their CIC.

700 debutaunt  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:59:51pm

re: #649 Bobblehead

Ick! There isn’t enough disinfectant soap in the world to cleanse me if I had to get within an inch of that man. Ick!

There was a cartoon of the Pope furiously washing his hands after shaking hands with Bill Clinton.

701 Soona'  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:00:00pm

re: #693 Gus 802

Melting mozzarella cheese on a bed of tomato sauce and soft dough dripping with olive oil topped with fresh chopped garlic and pepperoni slices.

Man! I’m going to order some pizza. Have a good weekend all.

702 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:00:11pm

re: #696 So?

That’s NOT what happened.

703 Steve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:00:15pm

re: #693 Gus 802

Melting mozzarella cheese on a bed of tomato sauce and soft dough dripping with olive oil topped with fresh chopped garlic and pepperoni slices.

Pizza Schmizza in the Portland/Vancouver area has Alligator Pizza. And it is very good.

704 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:00:34pm

steve’s tribute to the Mighty Fearless Somali Pirates


705 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:00:58pm

Maybe Obama can fly a few pizzas over to the 4 starving Somali terrorists. I mean deep negotiations must be going on.

706 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:01:18pm

Oh, FFS.

707 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:02:03pm

re: #696 So?

Let’s see, Obama flew in a chef 830 miles just to make him a pizza. Will he also fly in a cosmetic surgeon 2000 miles to give Michele FAKE BOOBS. It seems anything is possible with this administration.

.. what’s that smell, Sharmuta?

708 USBeast  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:02:13pm

re: #705 So?

Maybe Obama can fly a few pizzas over to the 4 starving Somali terrorists. I mean deep negotiations must be going on.

Heavy on the pork sausage.

709 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:02:14pm

re: #688 jcm

Yes, some it’s not many. Most states are at a minimum stand your ground.

We had a local guy driving up the road, as he came up on an oncoming truck they clipped Mirrors, both drivers stopped.
But one ran to the other driver and dragged him half out of his vehicle, and started beating him with a tire tool.
He managed to pull a pistol and kill his attacker.
They tried to prosecute the man on the grounds that he could have fled, even though the assault left him partially paralyzed.
He was acquitted.

710 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:02:18pm

re: #705 So?

Maybe Obama can fly a few pizzas over to the 4 starving Somali terrorists. I mean deep negotiations must be going on.

Send in some baby-back pork ribs and beer for the captain.

711 xtraBilly  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:02:24pm

I hear they’re renaming the State Department so that Hillary will now have the title of Secretary of Scold.

712 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:02:39pm

re: #703 Steve

Pizza Schmizza in the Portland/Vancouver area has Alligator Pizza. And it is very good.

We have some OK ones in Denver. Usually I get Pudge Brothers for take out. Now Brooklyn on the other hand. Boy, you can’t find many places that make Sicilian pizza.

713 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:02:44pm

re: #670 Bobblehead

Sometimes I believe everything he does is calculated to act as a distraction to the issues the Republicans should be concentrating on.

I don’t know if he’s that savvy politically, but I’ll play along. The pizza guy is a leftie tree hugger that is doing pizza’s for George Clooney too.
He calls a local paper and gives them a story about flying out to the White House to make pizza’s and off go the right wing blogs. Wait and watch the pot boil, pay the avanti infiltrators to help stir the pot a bit too.
When the MSN calls for more info, give the full story and the right looks silly. Just a conspiracy theory, to show I can play.

714 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:02:51pm

re: #708 USBeast

Heavy on the pork sausage.

Hot Italian sausage.

715 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:03:02pm

re: #702 Sharmuta

That’s NOT what happened.

what do you mean?

I was using this

bitterlawyer.com

to make a point. Or two.

716 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:03:32pm
717 Steve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:04:01pm

What would you do for a Pizza

Brain Bleach alert. Just to warn you.

718 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:04:14pm

re: #714 Bobblehead

Hot Italian sausage.

broccoli wheels!

719 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:04:57pm

re: #709 DEZes

We had a local guy driving up the road, as he came up on an oncoming truck they clipped Mirrors, both drivers stopped.
But one ran to the other driver and dragged him half out of his vehicle, and started beating him with a tire tool.
He managed to pull a pistol and kill his attacker.
They tried to prosecute the man on the grounds that he could have fled, even though the assault left him partially paralyzed.
He was acquitted.

Cripes. Sounds like if he didn’t kill his assailant he would have been beaten to death. And the prosecution files charges.

720 razorbacker  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:05:19pm

re: #657 Iron Fist

There was a case here a few years back (razorbacker for it wasn’t this year, it wasn’t last year, but I’m too lazy to look it up) where some freelance unauthorized entrepreneurs were loading a gentleman’s goods from his house into their pickup when he came home out of the woods. He’d been deer hunting on his own property, and not off at work as they had assumed.

He left one lying in the front yard, and made an off-hand shot of about two hundred yards into a bouncing target fleeing down the drive.

I’m not the sort to jump into violence right off the bat, but daylight home breakins in Madison county dropped off to nothing for a while.

721 jwb7605  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:05:21pm

re: #713 avanti

I don’t know if he’s that savvy politically, but I’ll play along. The pizza guy is a leftie tree hugger that is doing pizza’s for George Clooney too.
He calls a local paper and gives them a story about flying out to the White House to make pizza’s and off go the right wing blogs. Wait and watch the pot boil, pay the avanti infiltrators to help stir the pot a bit too.
When the MSN calls for more info, give the full story and the right looks silly. Just a conspiracy theory, to show I can play.

If you get downdinged for that post, there truly are some unhinged people here.
When I read the part about the guy having paid carbon credits to the Colorado wind farm, that (your scenario) was the first thing that popped into my mind.

722 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:05:33pm

re: #717 Steve

What would you do for a Pizza

Brain Bleach alert. Just to warn you.

LOL Double strength

723 Steve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:05:39pm

re: #712 Gus 802

We have some OK ones in Denver. Usually I get Pudge Brothers for take out. Now Brooklyn on the other hand. Boy, you can’t find many places that make Sicilian pizza.

My all time favorite pizza spot is Juliano’s Pizzeria

724 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:05:51pm

re: #678 Killgore Trout

I wasn’t following the story but I guess that means he gets gloating rights today.

Just give me a pass on one of the many times I get it wrong and we’ll move on.

725 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:05:57pm

re: #707 Irish Rose

Don’t get me started! ;)

726 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:06:19pm

re: #719 Gus 802

Cripes. Sounds like if he didn’t kill his assailant he would have been beaten to death. And the prosecution files charges.

Yup, It was BS all the way.

727 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:06:30pm

re: #696 So?

Let’s see, Obama flew in a chef 830 miles just to make him a pizza. Will he also fly in a cosmetic surgeon 2000 miles to give Michele FAKE BOOBS. It seems anything is possible with this administration.

The story that “Obama flew in the chef” is not accurate.

As to the rest - is it really necessary to just make things up? There are plenty of actual things happening that provide plenty of points for discussion.

And to the person the other day who thought I was HUMORLESS for failing to see the humor in made-up stuff - it has nothing to do with a lack of humor. I just don’t see the point in silly speculation.

728 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:06:41pm

re: #715 So?

See #611.

729 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:07:31pm

re: #727 reine.de.tout

And to the person the other day who thought I was HUMORLESS for failing to see the humor in made-up stuff - it has nothing to do with a lack of humor. I just don’t see the point in silly speculation.

It’s a distraction and only serves 0bama in the end.

730 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:07:31pm

re: #696 So?

Let’s see, Obama flew in a chef 830 miles just to make him a pizza. Will he also fly in a cosmetic surgeon 2000 miles to give Michele FAKE BOOBS. It seems anything is possible with this administration.

* * * *
We stand corrected— please note, the chef flew himself in on coach, with all his ingredients and equipment, says Charles’ links.

This was donated, PRIVATE pizza party, like the Nancy Reagan fancy china service democrats made a big stink about back in the Reagan White House.

731 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:08:17pm

re: #723 Steve

My all time favorite pizza spot is Juliano’s Pizzeria

I once went to this one no name Italian restaurant that made great pies in Trenton, NJ. White pies too. Place was filled with a lot of Goodfellas too. When I left the funeral procession for Mayor Dinkens sped past.

732 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:08:26pm

There is a dangerous lack of Chicago style pizza places in Atlanta. Nancy’s is good but expensive for a large family. We finally broke down and learned how to make it.

There is nothing like a three inch deep pie of buttery crust, spinach, sausage, pounds of mozzerella and home made tomato sauce on top. If you can’t make a meal out of a single slice then you aren’t doing it right.

733 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:08:34pm

re: #725 Sharmuta

Don’t get me started! ;)

Have you forgotten that it’s Friday night, and you can buy some very good wines cheap these days?

734 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:09:33pm

re: #717 Steve

What would you do for a Pizza

Brain Bleach alert. Just to warn you.

That is the very exact opposite of my built.
What a big dose of funny brain bleach needed.

735 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:09:50pm

for the pizza heads…

736 DEZes  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:09:55pm

Have a good evening Lizards, I have to bail.

737 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:09:59pm

re: #713 avanti

I don’t know if he’s that savvy politically, but I’ll play along. The pizza guy is a leftie tree hugger that is doing pizza’s for George Clooney too.
He calls a local paper and gives them a story about flying out to the White House to make pizza’s and off go the right wing blogs. Wait and watch the pot boil, pay the avanti infiltrators to help stir the pot a bit too.
When the MSN calls for more info, give the full story and the right looks silly. Just a conspiracy theory, to show I can play.

Important lesson here. Hold fire until we see the whites of their eyes. Or in this case the whites of their melting mozarrella…….

Bottom line - hold fire until you know you’re going to hit the target. Otherwise it’s a bad waste of ammunition.

738 USBeast  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:10:08pm

re: #732 DaddyG

There is a dangerous lack of Chicago style pizza places in Atlanta. Nancy’s is good but expensive for a large family. We finally broke down and learned how to make it.

There is nothing like a three inch deep pie of buttery crust, spinach, sausage, pounds of mozzerella and home made tomato sauce on top. If you can’t make a meal out of a single slice then you aren’t doing it right.

Come to Hot Springs. Rocky’s Corner across from Oaklawn Race Track.

739 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:10:22pm

re: #737 LGoPs

Important lesson here. Hold fire until we see the whites of their eyes. Or in this case the whites of their melting mozarrella…….

Bottom line - hold fire until you know you’re going to hit the target. Otherwise it’s a bad waste of ammunition.

The ammunition being credibility…….

740 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:10:42pm

re: #726 DEZes

Yup, It was BS all the way.

I’ve had my mirror clipped before. That’s the kind of thing you blow off or let the insurance company handle. Kind of makes you wonder though. If that happens in a bad location do you keep driving?

741 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:10:47pm

re: #736 DEZes

Have a good evening Lizards, I have to bail.

See you DEZ…..
:)

742 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:10:48pm

re: #728 Sharmuta

See #611.

Yeah So? I know about that story. I was just being facetious and you got into a tizzy. Did you read my link? Women are using fake boobs to get ahead in the corporate world.

743 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:11:28pm

re: #709 DEZes

We had a local guy driving up the road, as he came up on an oncoming truck they clipped Mirrors, both drivers stopped.
But one ran to the other driver and dragged him half out of his vehicle, and started beating him with a tire tool.
He managed to pull a pistol and kill his attacker.
They tried to prosecute the man on the grounds that he could have fled, even though the assault left him partially paralyzed.
He was acquitted.

Last summer in downtown Seattle, crazy guy out of the blue starts attacking a guy walking along. The crazy guy beats the other the guy to the ground and starts kicking him. Guy on the ground decides enough of this, draws, shoots and kills his unarmed assailant. He wasn’t even charged.

In another case a guy hears noise at his back door, grabs a rifle and investigates. This scares off 3 guys, once the 3 guys are off the property one turns and reaches toward his waist band. Home owner fires, and kill the guy, who it turns out was unarmed. Investigation took a couple of months but no charges filed.

744 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:11:44pm

re: #736 DEZes

Have a good evening Lizards, I have to bail.

Have a good one.

745 avanti  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:12:02pm

re: #721 jwb7605

If you get downdinged for that post, there truly are some unhinged people here.
When I read the part about the guy having paid carbon credits to the Colorado wind farm, that (your scenario) was the first thing that popped into my mind.

We both just have evil minds, and may have a career in politics.

746 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:12:12pm

Images of Frail Kim Jong Il Renew Talk of Succession
In a public appearance, the frailty of the 67-year-old dictator renewed talk about North Korea’s future, with no clear succession policy in place.

foxnews.com

Yup, he has looked better?

747 USBeast  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:12:35pm

re: #742 So?

Yeah So? I know about that story. I was just being facetious and you got into a tizzy. Did you read my link? Women are using fake boobs to get ahead in the corporate world.

This confuses me. Real boobs seem to be running the corporate world.
/

748 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:12:43pm

re: #742 So?

Maybe if men weren’t so preoccupied with boobs, women wouldn’t feel the need to do that.

749 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:12:55pm

Oh, who gives a frog’s big green butt about 0’s pizza party! Right now this man is who we should be interested in.

750 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:13:03pm

re: #748 Sharmuta

Maybe if men weren’t so preoccupied with boobs, women wouldn’t feel the need to do that.

SLAMBO!

751 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:13:05pm

re: #743 jcm

Last summer in downtown Seattle, crazy guy out of the blue starts attacking a guy walking along. The crazy guy beats the other the guy to the ground and starts kicking him. Guy on the ground decides enough of this, draws, shoots and kills his unarmed assailant. He wasn’t even charged.

In another case a guy hears noise at his back door, grabs a rifle and investigates. This scares off 3 guys, once the 3 guys are off the property one turns and reaches toward his waist band. Home owner fires, and kill the guy, who it turns out was unarmed. Investigation took a couple of months but no charges filed.

There’s that famous case in the UK involving a farm and a couple of thugs? I forgot the name of the man that defended himself. He’s still in prison.

752 callahan23  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:13:18pm

re: #736 DEZes

Have a good evening Lizards, I have to bail.


Nite night my friend.

753 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:13:19pm

Why is a Painting Like a Pizza? for literary lizards ~

(book on modern art by Dr. Nancy Heller of the Philadelphia University of the Arts)

She also wrote “Women Artists” and illustrated art history.

754 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:13:21pm

re: #742 So?

Yeah So? I know about that story. I was just being facetious and you got into a tizzy. Did you read my link? Women are using fake boobs to get ahead in the corporate world.

… in the blogging world, too.

755 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:13:40pm

re: #754 Irish Rose

… in the blogging world, too.

ZING!

756 Steve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:13:45pm

re: #747 USBeast

This confuses me. Real boobs seem to be running the corporate world.the white house.
/

There fixed that!

757 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:14:03pm
758 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:14:30pm

He didn’t bow
He didn’t order the pizza.
He’s not responsible for the tacky gifts.
He isn’t a Muslim.
He was born in Hawaii.
…….and all the rest………..

Yes, we shouldn’t pile on the BS accusations……but after 8 years of watching it happen REGULARLY to Bush, well, am I bad ‘cause I find a bit of glee in watching it happen to “0”(pronounced zero)?

759 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:14:37pm

re: #746 Nevergiveup

Images of Frail Kim Jong Il Renew Talk of Succession
In a public appearance, the frailty of the 67-year-old dictator renewed talk about North Korea’s future, with no clear succession policy in place.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Yup, he has looked better?

* * * *
China should roll their tanks in and just take over Pyong Yang. Yes They Can.

760 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:14:43pm

re: #754 Irish Rose

… in the blogging world, too.

OUCH!
Gee, who could that be …

761 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:14:56pm

re: #748 Sharmuta

Maybe if men weren’t so preoccupied with boobs, women wouldn’t feel the need to do that.

Men are just trying to stay a breast of the times…..
:)

762 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:15:27pm

re: #761 LGoPs

Men are just trying to stay a breast of the times…..
:)

Shame on you.

763 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:15:30pm

re: #759 alegrias

* * * *
China should roll their tanks in and just take over Pyong Yang. Yes They Can.

Probably not a bad idea considering the alternatives.

764 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:15:37pm

re: #761 LGoPs

Men are just trying to stay a breast of the times…..
:)

Gotta have a leg up on something.

765 Irish Rose  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:16:05pm

Nothing quite changes the tenor of a thread quicker than the word “boobs”.

766 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:16:06pm

re: #761 LGoPs

Men are just trying to stay a breast of the times…..
:)

Until both men and women value the intellect of a woman more than her more fleeting assets, things like boob jobs for promotions will continue.

767 Steve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:16:11pm

Poems by Jack Prelutsky

I’m making a pizza the size of the sun,
a pizza that’s sure to weigh more than a ton,
a pizza too massive to pick up and toss,
a pizza resplendent with oceans of sauce.

I’m topping my pizza with mountains of cheese,
with acres of peppers, pimentos, and peas,
with mushrooms, tomatoes, and sausage galore,
with every last olive they had at the store.

My pizza is sure to be one of a kind,
my pizza will leave other pizzas behind,
my pizza will be a delectable treat
that all who love pizza are welcome to eat.

The oven is hot, I believe it will take
a year and a half for my pizza to bake.
I hardly can wait till my pizza is done,
my wonderful pizza the size of the sun.

768 Nevergiveup  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:16:14pm

re: #764 Gus 802

Gotta have a leg up on something.

Middle leg?

769 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:16:22pm

re: #751 Gus 802

There’s that famous case in the UK involving a farm and a couple of thugs? I forgot the name of the man that defended himself. He’s still in prison.

I remember that, truly disgusting.

There was a case in NYC in the last few years. Guy moves to NYC from down south somewhere. Brings his handguns with him, a few days after moving up burglar breaks into his apartment. He plugs the thug, and gets charged for a whole slew of weapons violations.

770 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:16:27pm

re: #748 Sharmuta

Maybe if men weren’t so preoccupied with boobs, women wouldn’t feel the need to do that.

It’s not the men, it’s the women. They are the ones who want to up the ante on their fellow female colleagues. I never understood breast implants to begin with unless it was for medical reasons like cancer.

771 razorbacker  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:16:36pm

re: #751 Gus 802

There’s that famous case in the UK involving a farm and a couple of thugs? I forgot the name of the man that defended himself. He’s still in prison.

My post starting this discussion came from the U.K.

And to think that the ‘a man’s home is his castle’ started in there.

I guess that the law does not always ‘evolve’ into a more advanced state.

772 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:16:50pm

re: #750 albusteve

SLAMBO!

NOT!

773 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:17:13pm

re: #766 Sharmuta

Until both men and women value the intellect of a woman more than her more fleeting assets, things like boob jobs for promotions will continue.

So which is it? Assets or Boobsets?

774 USBeast  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:17:40pm

re: #756 Steve

There fixed that!

This confuses me. Real boobs seem to be running the corporate world.the white house.

This confuses me. Real boobs seem to be running the corporate world and the white house.

Well and truly fixed.

775 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:17:50pm

re: #758 IslandLibertarian

He didn’t bow
He didn’t order the pizza.
He’s not responsible for the tacky gifts.
He isn’t a Muslim.
He was born in Hawaii.
…….and all the rest………..

Yes, we shouldn’t pile on the BS accusations……but after 8 years of watching it happen REGULARLY to Bush, well, am I bad ‘cause I find a bit of glee in watching it happen to “0”(pronounced zero)?

But did Obama have pineapple on his pizza?

If he didn’t it lends credence to the Nirth Certifikat story!

////

776 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:17:52pm

re: #766 Sharmuta

Until both men and women value the intellect of a woman more than her more fleeting assets, things like boob jobs for promotions will continue.

You’re right of course. I work in an industry with many women and their intellectual contributions are highly regarded……
Defense Industry.

777 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:17:59pm

re: #770 So?

It’s not the men, it’s the women. They are the ones who want to up the ante on their fellow female colleagues. I never understood breast implants to begin with unless it was for medical reasons like cancer.

Oh, bullshit! Women don’t care about the size of another woman’s chest in the business world. But if men want to promote women so they can get a better look at their tits, then it’s no wonder corporate America is screwed.

778 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:17:59pm

re: #763 Nevergiveup

Probably not a bad idea considering the alternatives.

* * * *
Like China couldn’t use a few million hungry customers and outlet for their products RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

Chinese let a Gulag with millions stand right next to them. Sick MFs. Sometimes I’m ashamed we deal with them.

779 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:18:27pm

re: #773 DaddyG

How about her brainsets?

780 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:18:28pm

re: #769 jcm

I remember that, truly disgusting.

There was a case in NYC in the last few years. Guy moves to NYC from down south somewhere. Brings his handguns with him, a few days after moving up burglar breaks into his apartment. He plugs the thug, and gets charged for a whole slew of weapons violations.

Crazy. That’s how things work out sometimes. The weapons violations charges was just an excuse for charging him I’m sure.

781 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:18:31pm

re: #772 So?

NOT!

bullshit

782 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:18:32pm

re: #766 Sharmuta

Until both men and women value the intellect of a woman more than her more fleeting assets, things like boob jobs for promotions will continue.

Girls are getting boob jobs in high school so they can be more popular and shove their new rack in other girls’ faces. Explain that?

783 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:19:04pm

re: #748 Sharmuta

Maybe if men weren’t so preoccupied with boobs, women wouldn’t feel the need to do that.

I’m continuously telling my GF that she doesn’t need a “job”.
I think it’s a shame women are held hostage to style.
And I think men that want a woman with big tits really want their mommy.

784 itellu3times  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:19:42pm

re: #630 albusteve

there were no Seals…Seals don’t ride around on destroyers….getting all that stuff takes time…if you fly them in the pirates are hip to it…non of it is as simple as repelling the pirates in the first place

Agreed. And then some.

But the pirates aren’t exactly news, and it’s been several days already, and I’m not saying it’s easy.

We’ll just have to see how it goes.

785 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:20:02pm

re: #771 razorbacker

My post starting this discussion came from the U.K.

And to think that the ‘a man’s home is his castle’ started in there.

I guess that the law does not always ‘evolve’ into a more advanced state.

In that regard they expect you to call the police and wait for the police armed protection which in many if not most cases it’s too late. Especially in agricultural locations. They should just let that men in the UK free and be done with it.

786 Steve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:20:06pm

re: #774 USBeast

This confuses me. Real boobs seem to be running the corporate world.the white house.

This confuses me. Real boobs seem to be running the corporate world and the white house.

Well and truly fixed.

LOL

787 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:20:07pm

re: #782 So?

Girls are getting boob jobs in high school so they can be more popular and shove their new rack in other girls’ faces. Explain that?

bullshit…that’s just a detour

788 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:20:14pm
789 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:20:40pm

re: #754 Irish Rose

… in the blogging world, too.

Boob jobs, bikini waxes, and hairless man chests. The Holy Trinity.

790 Steve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:20:47pm

How about offering boob jobs to the hijackers?

791 LGoPs  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:21:05pm

re: #769 jcm

I remember that, truly disgusting.

There was a case in NYC in the last few years. Guy moves to NYC from down south somewhere. Brings his handguns with him, a few days after moving up burglar breaks into his apartment. He plugs the thug, and gets charged for a whole slew of weapons violations.

Disgusting yes but on balance I’d rather be dealing with firearms infractions than having the epitath on my tombstone read “he’s dead but he obeyed the law”

792 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:21:28pm

re: #784 itellu3times

Agreed. And then some.

But the pirates aren’t exactly news, and it’s been several days already, and I’m not saying it’s easy.

We’ll just have to see how it goes.

it will go badly if the Navy gets into it…a rescue seems out of the question now imo

793 DaddyG  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:22:05pm

re: #779 Sharmuta

How about her brainsets?

Honestly that is usually what I go for when hiring. That an professional positive attitude.

Too much of my time has been spent navigating other departments bimbos (and himbos) to want to hire one of my own.

794 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:22:08pm

re: #775 jcm

But did Obama have pineapple on his pizza?

If he didn’t it lends credence to the Nirth Certifikat story!

////

“0”(pronounced zero) eats Chicago pizza.
He is not a Hawaii local boy anymore.

795 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:22:14pm

re: #792 albusteve

it will go badly if the Navy gets into it…a rescue seems out of the question now imo

Chemical weapons? You ever wonder why they can’t use something like ether that puts everyone to sleep pronto?

796 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:22:43pm

re: #782 So?

I have better things to do with my time than discuss boobs with you.

797 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:23:07pm

re: #795 Gus 802

Chemical weapons? You ever wonder why they can’t use something like ether that puts everyone to sleep pronto?

James Bond…pay the heathens

798 jcm  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:23:18pm

re: #794 IslandLibertarian

“0”(pronounced zero) eats Chicago pizza.
He is not a Hawaii local boy anymore.

The Troof is Out!

799 albusteve  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:23:43pm

re: #796 Sharmuta

I have better things to do with my time than discuss boobs with you.

hahaha!….shi at

800 Gus  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:23:57pm

Going to look at the email. ——->

801 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:26:26pm

re: #777 Sharmuta

Oh, bullshit! Women don’t care about the size of another woman’s chest in the business world.


Are you kidding me. The competition is fierce. It has gone from who can wear the tightest jeans on the street to the sexiest asset at work. The men aren’t forcing them to do it. Nobody’s pointing a gun at their heads. I guess you’ve never seen women check out a beautiful woman walking down the street in such a manner as to give them the evil eye.

802 alegrias  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:26:40pm

re: #790 Steve

How about offering boob jobs to the hijackers?

* * **
I heard today beautiful Somali women—you MUST have seen Imam, David Bowie’s wife—are leaving their Al Qaeda muslim boyfriends to date the coastal pirates with the cold hard cash.

803 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:27:20pm

re: #796 Sharmuta

I have better things to do with my time than discuss boobs with you.

Go make some pizza.

804 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:30:42pm

re: #2 brookly red

are the pirates dead yet?

The ones who tackled the French are, strange as it may seem.

Sad that a hostage died, although blowing any small boats with arms out of the water on sight would solve this problem overnight. People in the 1700’s knew what to do. We don’t.

805 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:31:13pm

Sharmuta, you’re the one who made the big deal out of it all and insulted me with, what’s that smell? All I did was combine one article with another in a joking way. Man, the PCness in here is starting to smell. It’s Friday, relapse.

806 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:33:44pm
807 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:40:23pm

re: #783 IslandLibertarian

I’m continuously telling my GF that she doesn’t need a “job”.
I think it’s a shame women are held hostage to style.
And I think men that want a woman with big tits really want their mommy.

Oh, boy.
I’m going to partially disagree with Sharmuta here.

Women are indeed “undervalued” in the workplace, even by men who don’t realize they are doing it. Women just do not get listened to in the same way a man does. I don’t know if it’s misogyny, or just some sort of response we humans have to deeper voices vs. lighter, higher voices.

But I also think women dress mostly for other women, not for men.

Most of the men I know pay no attention whatsoever to the day-to-day dress of the women around them. Oh sure, they’ll stop and stare if a women is dressed provocatively, but then they go about their business. They don’t compare that woman to others in the workplace.

But other women pay very close attention, and do indeed compare one against another.

808 windhorse  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:43:07pm

did anyone ever hear how much money (beyond the $50,000) that the US has donated to Italy for aid money for the earthquake?

809 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:44:54pm

re: #807 reine.de.tout


Most of the men I know pay no attention whatsoever to the day-to-day dress of the women around them. Oh sure, they’ll stop and stare if a women is dressed provocatively, but then they go about their business. They don’t compare that woman to others in the workplace.

Is that what they have told you?

But other women pay very close attention, and do indeed compare one against another.

Perhaps because they are wondering who gets the most attention from the men?

810 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:45:26pm

*ducks*

811 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:48:00pm

re: #809 Naso Tang

re: #810 Naso Tang

heh-heh!

You’d better duck!

The guys just must keep it to themselves, then … what I’ve observed, is the ladies check out the other ladies …

Whilst the guys simply pay no attention to anything any of us have to say.

812 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:48:51pm

re: #807 reine.de.tout

But I also think women dress mostly for other women, not for men.


Most of the men I know pay no attention whatsoever to the day-to-day dress of the women around them. Oh sure, they’ll stop and stare if a women is dressed provocatively, but then they go about their business. They don’t compare that woman to others in the workplace.

But other women pay very close attention, and do indeed compare one against another.

You hit the nail right on the head. I’ve discussed this topic with many women and they all said exactly what you wrote above.

813 So?  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:50:30pm

re: #808 windhorse

did anyone ever hear how much money (beyond the $50,000) that the US has donated to Italy for aid money for the earthquake?

they threw in an Xtra-large pepperoni pizza.

814 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:51:34pm

re: #812 So?

But I also think women dress mostly for other women, not for men.

You hit the nail right on the head. I’ve discussed this topic with many women and they all said exactly what you wrote above.

I’ve discussed this topic with the Roi, often, and this is what he tells me.
Women dress for other women, not for men.
Most guys just don’t care.
Unless, I guess, they’re Hollywood types accustomed to grand clothes.

815 razorbacker  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 5:55:47pm

re: #807 reine.de.tout

I wandered into the break room one morning to refill my caffine cup and overheard two of my female reps cutting up another female rep pretty good because she was wearing the same clothes that day as she had the day before. Seems that she’d had a ‘hot date’ the night before.

I was surprised. I never noticed what they wore, my job was to get them to do their jobs. I didn’t give a damn how they dressed, as long as they passed muster with prevailing community standards.

816 windhorse  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 6:00:32pm

re: #813 So?

well…. I remember that Avanti told me that I had a case of Obama Derangement Syndrome if I thought that $50,000 was all that we would donate. (I was shocked that $50,000 was all we would send to our friends the Italians……) I am sure that he has tracked this closely… it would be nice to see what the total is up to now!

817 windhorse  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 6:03:36pm

does anyone else here, hear crickets?

818 Simply Me  Fri, Apr 10, 2009 6:30:39pm

re: #512 CyanSnowHawk

He is in this position because every time these pirates take a ship and some hostages, the shipping companies, through their insurers or directly, pay these criminals off. It has become another expense and they don’t seem to realize that it’s a losing game. It goes on and on until somebody, like Jefferson, stands up and says “no more.”

I’m wondering if the reason they don’t just send in the SEALS to sink the boats surreptitiously is that the insurers would cause a stink. Is that what is really holding this up?

819 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 12:25:00am

re: #795 Gus 802

Chemical weapons? You ever wonder why they can’t use something like ether that puts everyone to sleep pronto?

The Russians tried that just a few years ago. Whatever they used wound up killing a whole bunch of the hostages, and they still had to go hand-to-hand with a few of the terrorists who were unaffected.

820 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 12:30:51am

re: #818 Simply Me

I’m wondering if the reason they don’t just send in the SEALS to sink the boats surreptitiously is that the insurers would cause a stink. Is that what is really holding this up?

No.

We’re talking about a 28 foot lifeboat. Modern lifeboats are really damn hard to sink. I haven’t seen this one, but they typically have double hulls filled with closed-cell foam; they’ll happily keep floating even if filled to the brim with water.

Then there’s the issue of pushing the pirates into unpleasant behavior in retaliation. As long as the captain is not in imminent danger, there’s no reason to do anything other than simply wait things out.

The made-for-TV stuff can wait until the captain’s safety is compromised. Or until the captain is safely in Naval hands.


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