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1 JohnAdams  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:14:03pm

Sad for Kenny Perry today. Thought he had it.

2 Desert Dog  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:14:51pm

Because....the night

3 Desert Dog  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:15:37pm

re: #1 JohnAdams

I never realized just how much John Adams looked like Richard Pryor....it is like they are twins!

4 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:15:54pm

A header only post - is that a first?

5 Randall Gross  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:16:23pm

Hope the move went well, and that you get internet back up soon... time for sleeps here.

6 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:16:32pm

Happy Birthday, Charles.

7 chotii  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:17:01pm

Go, Navy SEALS!

Now of course the pirates are vowing revenge against us horrible Americans, and the French, who DARED to kill some of them to protect our own people. Because, they only wanted money.

Guess they don't know the history of piracy much. Pirates used to be hanged summarily if they were caught. They were considered enemies of the human race, not simply 'criminals' and they had no rights.

Just wanted ransoms, and that's it. Well, things are going to get dicier now.

8 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:18:00pm
It’s the traditional overnight thread, sans quote...

Quoted for prosperity.

/wait, what?

9 capitalist piglet  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:18:07pm

Just in case you're not sufficiently confused about the sequence of today's events yet, here's a link to a NYT article that has a couple of interesting bits of information:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

The Defense Department twice sought Mr. Obama’s permission to use force to rescue Captain Phillips, most recently on Friday night, senior defense officials said. On Saturday morning, the president agreed, they said, if it appeared that the captain’s life was in imminent danger.

By Friday, with several warships within easy reach of the lifeboat, the negotiations had gone nowhere. Captain Phillips jumped into the sea, but was quickly recaptured. On Saturday, the pirates fired several shots at a small boat that had approached from the Bainbridge.

10 SpaceJesus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:19:52pm
11 rawmuse  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:19:54pm

Friends help you move.
Real friends help you move bodies.

/

12 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:20:47pm

weet dreams all!

13 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:21:49pm

re: #5 Thanos

re: #6 Sharmuta

Whoa, whoa, whoa...

I understood that he was moving today, but I did not know that it was also his birthday.

Meh, could be worse.
/had some lousy birthdays

14 capitalist piglet  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:21:54pm

re: #4 karmic_inquisitor

A header only post - is that a first?

There's only one thing to do. Supply our own quotes.

Some people have never had to struggle. They will never know what it's like to work on a farm until their hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana.
- Jack Handey

15 mikeymom  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:22:32pm

i want the quote, damn it charles! why do we pay the big bucks here anyway?--oh wait--

16 JohnAdams  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:23:56pm

re: #3 Desert Dog

I never realized just how much John Adams looked like Richard Pryor....it is like they are twins!

This is how America reinvents itself!

17 AMER1CAN  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:24:02pm

I've resisted FaceBook for a number of years and recently (last 2 weeks) have gone whole hog on the application and I am completely in love with it! They also have a snazzy awesome iPhone app that makes keeping in touch with family and friends so simple and easy. On Friday, I talked with someone I have known for 25+ years but been out of contact with for the last 10 years, I found them, so anyways, I talked with them, a cousin in New York, and another cousin serving in Afganistan, all on the same day!

My mind is still blown over this! If you haven't given it a try I highly suggest doing so. I don't like to pine for other companies or services, but wow, my mind is blown.

/fb newbie

18 Bobblehead  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:24:45pm

To all you Navy men and women..You did us proud today! As a matter of fact you do us proud everyday. Bless you!

Nite all. Need to read another couple of chapters of "Little Dorrit" before heading to sleepy town.

19 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:24:46pm

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

Monday. I figured it was closes enough.

20 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:25:05pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

Gah! Damn this sticky s key.

21 JohnAdams  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:25:51pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

Monday. I figured it was closes enough.

4/13 Charles Johnson birthday?

22 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:26:30pm

re: #8 Slumbering Behemoth


Quoted for prosperity.

PIMF! Posterity. POSTERITY!

I hate it when I try to act all witty and shit to make a joke and end up stepping on my tongue. EPIC FAIL!

23 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:27:13pm

Land Of The Tiger - Episode 1 part 1

6 parts.

24 newscaper  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:27:16pm

Of course we don't have all the facts yet, but "[Only] act if the captain's life is in imminent danger" is just one cowardly smidgen above "Don't do anyhting".

I'm resisting the urge to give Obama too much credit for this one, because I'm sure the sailors were spitting nails when Philips jumped overboard and got recaptured before the earlier ROE (certainly some form of 'do nothing') could be shot down. Probably took too long to get DC on the horn, and let the laywers (spit) be consulted.

After that public humiliation Obama had to give he Navy something, but he "imminent danger" part was still cowardly IMO. I'm sure the Navy skipper bent the definition of 'imminent danger' to act -- I'm sure Philips had already had guns pointed at him a lot.

Real leadership from Obama would have taken the form, "If your guys get what they think is a clear shot , take it. If it goes wrong I'll take full responsibility for the order."

That is NOT what he supplied.

25 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:27:45pm

re: #22 Slumbering Behemoth

prosperity could lead to posterity................

26 JohnAdams  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:27:58pm

re: #22 Slumbering Behemoth

Take it easy on yourself.

27 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:28:04pm

re: #22 Slumbering Behemoth

We should both pack it in.

28 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:28:35pm

re: #17 AMER1CAN

I've resisted FaceBook for a number of years and recently (last 2 weeks) have gone whole hog on the application and I am completely in love with it! They also have a snazzy awesome iPhone app that makes keeping in touch with family and friends so simple and easy. On Friday, I talked with someone I have known for 25+ years but been out of contact with for the last 10 years, I found them, so anyways, I talked with them, a cousin in New York, and another cousin serving in Afganistan, all on the same day!

My mind is still blown over this! If you haven't given it a try I highly suggest doing so. I don't like to pine for other companies or services, but wow, my mind is blown.

/fb newbie

Whatever you do, stay away from FB games, Erik the Red invited me to the Metropolis game and now I'm addicted and suffering from Metro elbow and Metro wrist from click click clicking :-)

I do love it too, an old schoolfriend from *ahem* years ago found me and I was so happy to hear from her - thanks to FB!

29 Caton  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:28:46pm

re: #24 newscaper

Of course we don't have all the facts yet, but "[Only] act if the captain's life is in imminent danger" is just one cowardly smidgen above "Don't do anyhting".

Look at it this way: at this point, did you really expect O. to do better than Carter?

I didn't.

30 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:30:08pm

re: #28 aussiemagpie

Whatever you do, stay away from FB games, Erik the Red invited me to the Metropolis game and now I'm addicted and suffering from Metro elbow and Metro wrist from click click clicking :-)

I do love it too, an old schoolfriend from *ahem* years ago found me and I was so happy to hear from her - thanks to FB!

Wait till we get you into the mafia Game...:)

31 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:31:18pm

re: #729 aussiemagpie

Aussie, UPDATE: Noon BKK

The Taksin-supporting, free-market, techno-enriched Red-Shirts (deprived of their government TWICE by the Yellow Shirts) have blockaded almost every major city in Thailand, so no normal traffic through town...

There is a tanker-truck abandoned at a critical pinch-point downtown BKK, which COULD be detonated to great effect, and efforts underway to evacuate the area.

Thousands of soldiers now sweeping through sections of BKK...

Dominating the TV...

More as it happens... nothing much REALLY violent yet, no pitched battles

32 Macker  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:31:23pm

re: #21 JohnAdams

4/13 Charles Johnson birthday?

It sure is! Happy Birthday O Great One!

33 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:32:09pm

re: #17 AMER1CAN

I got on FaceBook on the recommendation from my daughter so she can share videos of my new grandson.
The site seemed barren.........looked for people.........found 2.........but I could have done that with white pages........not impressed .....YET...

34 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:33:38pm

1230 Update: TV Talking head says: Martial Law declared, steps being taken to secure ports, airports, stay inside

35 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:34:20pm

re: #27 Sharmuta

That an intriguing proposition that I am willing to get behind. What are the terms of this proposal?
/

36 mikeymom  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:35:09pm

re: #34 Karridine

1230 Update: TV Talking head says: Martial Law declared, steps being taken to secure ports, airports, stay inside

where--thailand?

37 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:36:01pm

It's also an unusually early late night thread!

38 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:36:06pm

re: #36 mikeymom

where--thailand?

Yup. I live in suburbs of Bangkok... the nastiness is downtown... and on TV and in the other cities... wife is Lao-Thai, I'm bilingual...

39 rawmuse  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:37:01pm

I am on FB. I have hundreds of friends.
They love me! They really love me!
I have not joined the LGF group yet, because then my ID would be revealed.
Not that that would change anything...

40 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:37:07pm

re: #37 gmsc

It's also an unusually early late night thread!

Get to wake up earlier then. ;)

41 newscaper  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:37:16pm

#29,
"Look at it this way: at this point, did you really expect O. to do better than Carter?"

Of course not :)

I'm just annoyed that too many conservatives are willing to be 'gracious' in this without offering the informative contrast I gave, granting "O" a bit too much credit..

42 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:37:29pm

re: #30 Dustyvet

Wait till we get you into the mafia Game...:)

NO NO NO NO NO! :-)

43 AMER1CAN  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:37:51pm

re: #28 aussiemagpie

Whatever you do, stay away from FB games, Erik the Red invited me to the Metropolis game and now I'm addicted and suffering from Metro elbow and Metro wrist from click click clicking :-)

I do love it too, an old schoolfriend from *ahem* years ago found me and I was so happy to hear from her - thanks to FB!

My production has been down at work due to this facebooking thing! I am pretty addicted. I moved away from most of my old friends almost 15 years ago. Now I feel like I am practically back with the old gang. Incredible!

44 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:38:12pm

re: #33 IslandLibertarian

I got on FaceBook on the recommendation from my daughter so she can share videos of my new grandson.
The site seemed barren.........looked for people.........found 2.........but I could have done that with white pages........not impressed .....YET...

look for red seewun.....

45 mikeymom  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:38:26pm

re: #38 Karridine

Yup. I live in suburbs of Bangkok... the nastiness is downtown... and on TV and in the other cities... wife is Lao-Thai, I'm bilingual...

stay safe--keep us posted!

46 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:39:22pm

re: #38 Karridine

Yup. I live in suburbs of Bangkok... the nastiness is downtown... and on TV and in the other cities... wife is Lao-Thai, I'm bilingual...

Keep us posted, and take good care of yourselves.

47 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:40:11pm

re: #26 JohnAdams

Oh, not being hard on myself. I am a big fan of self deprecating humor, and also a fan of finding something funny in typos. I dorked a lame joke by misspelling a word, and found it funny enough to point out. Meh.

/sense of humor mileage may vary, and I am easily amused.

48 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:40:41pm

re: #31 Karridine

re: #729 aussiemagpie

Aussie, UPDATE: Noon BKK

The Taksin-supporting, free-market, techno-enriched Red-Shirts (deprived of their government TWICE by the Yellow Shirts) have blockaded almost every major city in Thailand, so no normal traffic through town...

There is a tanker-truck abandoned at a critical pinch-point downtown BKK, which COULD be detonated to great effect, and efforts underway to evacuate the area.

Thousands of soldiers now sweeping through sections of BKK...

Dominating the TV...

More as it happens... nothing much REALLY violent yet, no pitched battles

Thank you so much for the update! I've just heard on the 3.30pm news that many protestors have been hurt ?

49 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:40:59pm

Cop talking head now explaining incidents/actions in Chonburi, where Pattaya is, where the international ASEAN conference is/was, which irritated the Red Shirts so much...

context: this is a LONG 3-day Water Festival, and SHOULD HAVE BEEN quiet, drunk and relaxed fun, but instead has been pretty well brought to its knees by this demonstration, by Red Shirted people who have been quiet TOO LONG, until their Tea Party became unstoppable today...

50 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:41:12pm

re: #42 aussiemagpie

NO NO NO NO NO! :-)

Pretty please...:)

51 bosforus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:41:22pm

re: #22 Slumbering Behemoth

I hate it when you do that, two.

52 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:41:27pm

re: #14 capitalist piglet

“No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.”

P.J. O'Rourke

53 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:42:01pm

re: #48 aussiemagpie

I hear a few protesters, a few soldiers... again, NO PITCHED BATTLES

yet

54 AMER1CAN  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:42:40pm

re: #33 IslandLibertarian

I got on FaceBook on the recommendation from my daughter so she can share videos of my new grandson.
The site seemed barren.........looked for people.........found 2.........but I could have done that with white pages........not impressed .....YET...

I pretty much got my whole family to sign up. Now mind you, one of my brothers did get his hand slapped by his fience for having some old girlfriends on there! LOL

55 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:42:55pm

re: #53 Karridine

I hear a few protesters, a few soldiers... again, NO PITCHED BATTLES

yet

any pitched balls?

56 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:43:08pm

re: #52 redc1c4

“No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.”

P.J. O'Rourke

Paris Hilton passed her stupidity test. But they graded on curves.

57 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:43:17pm

re: #34 Karridine

1230 Update: TV Talking head says: Martial Law declared, steps being taken to secure ports, airports, stay inside

Sounds like a rapidly worsening situation now

Headline here is a travel to Thailand warning by PM Rudd

My son might just have to postpone his holiday

58 TheMatrix31  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:43:18pm

Facebook is a great site. I've been a member since they first started.

59 Killgore Trout  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:43:30pm

re: #53 Karridine

Stay safe. Good to see you posting again.

60 eddiespaghetti  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:43:43pm
61 Silvergirl  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:44:52pm

re: #14 capitalist piglet

I'll add another Jack Handey.

"When this girl at the art museum asked me whom I liked better, Monet or Manet, I said, 'I like mayonnaise.' She just stared at me, so I said it again, louder. Then she left. I guess she went to try to find some mayonnaise for me."

62 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:45:07pm

re: #55 redc1c4

any pitched balls?

No, but it sounds like there were a few strikes.

//

63 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:45:19pm

re: #56 Alberta Oil Peon

Paris Hilton passed her stupidity test. But they graded on curves.

she has no curves.......

64 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:45:21pm

re: #55 redc1c4

any pitched balls?

Time for a baseball joke ...

Q: Who holds the record for most balls to hit his face?

A: Liberace.

(A very old joke at that)

65 JohnAdams  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:45:31pm

re: #54 AMER1CAN

I pretty much got my whole family to sign up. Now mind you, one of my brothers did get his hand slapped by his fience for having some old girlfriends on there! LOL

New to FB and really don't like it. Don't know what I say is going where. Clammed up. Don't trust it.

66 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:45:57pm

re: #52 redc1c4

“No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.”

P.J. O'Rourke

WELCOME TO THAILAND, RedC !

These governments can issue public statements promising to take efforts to 'solve the problem', but you cannot solve spiritual problems with political solutions! Stupidity, ignorance, cupidity, lust for power... and NO PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY! "I didn't do that!"
"I am not a crook." R Nixon
"I did NOT have sex with that woman." Billy Jeff
"I am NOT naive." Hussein the O

67 Racer X  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:46:34pm

re: #53 Karridine

Dude. Be safe.

68 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:46:59pm

re: #64 karmic_inquisitor

Time for a baseball joke ...

Q: Who holds the record for most balls to hit his face?

A: Liberace.

(A very old joke at that)

come on.... you can't expect this crowd to swallow that, can you?

69 x-wing  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:47:01pm

re: #63 redc1c4

she has no curves.......

Maybe it was grade school curves ;>}

70 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:47:29pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Good? Dayum, Killgore, I'm onliest here cuz of them RIOTS and NATIONWIDE PROTESTS!

/missed YOU, too...

71 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:47:44pm

re: #66 Karridine

WELCOME TO THAILAND, RedC !

These governments can issue public statements promising to take efforts to 'solve the problem', but you cannot solve spiritual problems with political solutions! Stupidity, ignorance, cupidity, lust for power... and NO PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY! "I didn't do that!"
"I am not a crook." R Nixon
"I did NOT have sex with that woman." Billy Jeff
"I am NOT naive." Hussein the O

"Dude, give me a Singha..... " redc1c4

72 mikeymom  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:47:49pm

re: #66 Karridine

are you scared? just axin'--(i'd be sreaming like a little girl now if i was you)

73 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:47:54pm

re: #51 bosforus

You did that on porpoise!
/

74 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:47:56pm

re: #43 AMER1CAN

My production has been down at work due to this facebooking thing! I am pretty addicted. I moved away from most of my old friends almost 15 years ago. Now I feel like I am practically back with the old gang. Incredible!

Luckily I'm not working a desk at work otherwise I'd be out of a job I reckon :-) Your reuniting with old friends sounds just wonderful!

It's the game that's got me hooked...my kids think it's hilarious because I used to rip the Nintendos from their hands and lecture them about how games were a waste of time!

75 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:48:05pm

re: #68 redc1c4

come on.... you can't expect this crowd to swallow that, can you?

If you are trying to start a pun thread, this one is not up my alley.

76 AMER1CAN  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:48:21pm

re: #58 TheMatrix31

Facebook is a great site. I've been a member since they first started.

I've resisted for a long time. No clue why really. But now I started and can't seem to stop. lol Typical newbie I guess!

77 slokat  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:48:23pm

re: #47 Slumbering Behemoth

hhmmm mileage points for sense of humor...

78 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:48:52pm

re: #70 Karridine

Was reading that they were firing live ammo over the protestors. Anyone get hurt of killed?

79 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:48:56pm

Just another little something from my vaults of strangeness . . .

Tom Mullica: Professional Cigarette Eater

80 capitalist piglet  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:49:14pm

re: #52 redc1c4

“No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.”

P.J. O'Rourke

"Federal Marshals are so far up my ass I can taste Brylcreem."

- Corrado "Junior" Soprano

81 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:49:28pm

re: #70 Karridine

Good? Dayum, Killgore, I'm onliest here cuz of them RIOTS and NATIONWIDE PROTESTS!

/missed YOU, too...

So these Red Shirts and Yellow Shirts, are they political parties, or merely street gangs with a political affiliation? Where does the King sit with all this?

Please do stay safe, Karridine.

82 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:49:33pm

re: #75 karmic_inquisitor

If you are trying to start a pun thread, this one is not up my alley.

that's just *too* easy.... %-)

83 JohnAdams  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:49:34pm

re: #71 redc1c4

Shoot, what is that Thai whiskey?...name escapes me.

84 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:49:38pm

re: #71 redc1c4

"Dude, give me a Singha..... " redc1c4

To wash down that shot of Mekong ...

85 Racer X  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:49:51pm
86 mikeymom  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:49:57pm

re: #79 gmsc

i am not going there--quit smoking 8 weeks ago--dont want to start eating them!

87 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:50:13pm

re: #72 mikeymom

No Ma'am. Not in the least.

I'm in the 'burbs, action's downtown, but even if it WERE here in my 'hood, I'd be cool with it.

88 DistantThunder  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:50:25pm

I was in Guatemala in 1981-82 when they overthrew the government. I happened to be in a car headed towards the capitol building when the streets became flooded with people on foot, who moments before had been standing along a parade route. Except, it wasn't a parade they had been watching , but rather they had watched a series of tank driving past headed for the capitol. We were only a matter of hundred yards or so behind those tanks.

We could hear the machine gun fire, and the sounds of tank firing. I was 21.

89 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:50:32pm

re: #79 gmsc

Just another little something from my vaults of strangeness . . .

Tom Mullica: Professional Cigarette Eater

[Video]

Are those filterless and is he still alive?

90 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:50:38pm

re: #86 mikeymom

i am not going there--quit smoking 8 weeks ago--dont want to start eating them!

Congrats.

91 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:50:41pm

re: #86 mikeymom

i am not going there--quit smoking 8 weeks ago--dont want to start eating them!

Actually, that's all the more reason to watch the video – it will help you keep away from cigarettes!

92 bosforus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:51:14pm

re: #73 Slumbering Behemoth

You did that on porpoise!
/

But of course.

93 AMER1CAN  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:51:17pm

re: #65 JohnAdams

New to FB and really don't like it. Don't know what I say is going where. Clammed up. Don't trust it.

There is a slight learning curve no doubt. Once you kind of get the basics down of what is going where and who can see what, then it's not so scary in that sort of "what the fuck did I post and where did it go and who can see it" kind of way.

94 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:51:29pm

re: #50 Dustyvet

Pretty please...:)

Read my lips..... NO NO NO! :-)

But then again......I do have some spare hours that I just waste lying in bed in the dark doing something useless like sleeping :-)

95 bosforus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:51:32pm

re: #73 Slumbering Behemoth

You did that on porpoise!
/

Or should I say, but of coarse.

96 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:51:48pm

re: #78 Gus 802

Was reading that they were firing live ammo over the protestors. Anyone get hurt of killed?

Some injuries reported, but TV is being closely monitored from the inside, and that stuff wouldn't be quickly reported IF it actually DID happen... some injuries, both sides, all minor so far...

97 JohnAdams  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:51:53pm

re: #84 Bobibutu

To wash down that shot of Mekong ...

Mekong!

Awful piss...

98 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:51:54pm

re: #91 gmsc

Actually, that's all the more reason to watch the video – it will help you keep away from cigarettes!

I imagine the guy is often the butt of butt jokes.

99 slokat  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:52:35pm

re: #71 redc1c4

"Dude, give me a Singha..... " redc1c4

Large bottle - not the small one... ;)

100 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:53:00pm

re: #89 Gus 802

Are those filterless and is he still alive?

I'm not sure about whether they have filters (I believe they do, but I'm not sure).

He is still alive, but he no longer performs that act. Strangely, it's not because of the danger to his health, but that there were too many amateurs copying his act.

I've seen him do that live a few times, and I even asked him, "How do you do that without burning yourself?" He replied, "I don't. I burn myself everytime I do that!"

101 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:53:07pm

re: #99 slokat

Large bottle - not the small one... ;)

oh hellya!

102 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:53:09pm

re: #53 Karridine

I hear a few protesters, a few soldiers... again, NO PITCHED BATTLES

yet

I also heard six people were killed? News does get scrambled doesn't it...

103 capitalist piglet  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:53:18pm

re: #61 Silvergirl

I'll add another Jack Handey.

"When this girl at the art museum asked me whom I liked better, Monet or Manet, I said, 'I like mayonnaise.' She just stared at me, so I said it again, louder. Then she left. I guess she went to try to find some mayonnaise for me."

LOL - I had never seen that one! : )


“If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them.”

- Jack Handey

104 mikeymom  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:53:19pm

re: #91 gmsc

Actually, that's all the more reason to watch the video – it will help you keep away from cigarettes!

nope--watched for 40 secs--wanted to put one in my ear! lol

105 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:53:35pm

re: #96 Karridine

Some injuries reported, but TV is being closely monitored from the inside, and that stuff wouldn't be quickly reported IF it actually DID happen... some injuries, both sides, all minor so far...

It's amazing that there have only been minor injuries. I'm wondering now if they're firing live ammo or they're good shots. Let's hope that no one gets hurt when this is all said and done.

106 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:53:37pm

“The principle feature of American liberalism is sanctimoniousness. By loudly denouncing all bad things -- war and hunger and date rape -- liberals testify to their own terrific goodness. More important, they promote themselves to membership in a self-selecting elite of those who care deeply about such things. It's a kind of natural aristocracy, and the wonderful thing about this aristocracy is that you don't have to be brave, smart, strong or even lucky to join it, you just have to be liberal.”

P.J.

107 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:53:56pm

re: #85 Racer X

Hey - did you realize that you are almost at "karmic convergence?"

Your karma count is only 103 from matching your number of posts. 1 for 1.

108 stuiec  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:54:15pm
It’s the traditional overnight thread, sans quote...
- Charles Johnson

But now the non-quote is itself a quote...!

Hahahahaha! I have now created a logical paradox that will REND THE FABRIC OF THE INTERNET!

109 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:54:42pm

rat check....

110 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:55:18pm

re: #100 gmsc

Yeah, didn't look like something he'd want to keep up. His mouth almost looked black in that video. Whew.

111 JohnAdams  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:55:48pm

re: #106 redc1c4

Upding.
How's PJ doing? I hear he is ill.

112 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:56:57pm

re: #81 Alberta Oil Peon

The Red Shirts represent a LARGE MAJORITY of voters, voters who voted in TWO consecutive governments headed by Taksin or his protege, only to have an apolitical (hah!) Yellow-Shirted tiny minority violently seize govt house, cripple government, seize the national airport, thereby RUINING Thai tourism for the foreseeable future, and NOW the Red Shirts flex their muscle.

Messy.

His Majesty's power is limited under all the Constitutions currently being kicked around, but I think he just authorized the govt declaring martial law... or something like it... he suffers, really, when his beloved People suffer...

113 AMER1CAN  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:57:12pm

re: #74 aussiemagpie

Luckily I'm not working a desk at work otherwise I'd be out of a job I reckon :-) Your reuniting with old friends sounds just wonderful!

It's the game that's got me hooked...my kids think it's hilarious because I used to rip the Nintendos from their hands and lecture them about how games were a waste of time!

I went to preschool with a few friends and even have some pictures from way back in those days. I have been out of touch with some of them for 15+ years. A lot of them have been on facebook for awhile and have a lot of pictures and info posted.... so now I am on there and I go and check there Wall out and I see they have kids of their own and are married and just all kinds of different things!

It's a lot to process to be honest. But in a good way. It's been a positive experience seeing what old friends and acquaintances are doing with life and I'm excited to be able to share back with them now.

114 mikeymom  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:57:24pm

re: #108 stuiec

But now the non-quote is itself a quote...!

Hahahahaha! I have now created a logical paradox that will REND THE FABRIC OF THE INTERNET!

sorry--i dont cotton to that theory

115 Racer X  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:58:08pm

re: #107 karmic_inquisitor

Hey - did you realize that you are almost at "karmic convergence?"

Your karma count is only 103 from matching your number of posts. 1 for 1.

Odd.

I am a real ding-a-ling.

116 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:58:18pm

re: #92 bosforus

But of course coarse.

FTFY
/I'm not good a puns, but I can muster up a bit of "said right, spelled wrong" sort of thing.

117 stuiec  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:58:34pm

re: #114 mikeymom

sorry--i dont cotton to that theory

Well, why don't we canvas the rest of the lizards?

118 mikeymom  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:59:42pm

re: #117 stuiec

Well, why don't we canvas the rest of the lizards?

well, im linen this thread, so nite all--bless!

119 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 10:59:58pm

Just checked again... we HEAR (here, inside Thailand) 70+ injured, no deaths reported... 1300 Thai = 2200 Pacific

120 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:00:13pm

re: #117 stuiec

Well, why don't we canvas the rest of the lizards?

These puns are getting worsted by the minute.

121 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:00:16pm

re: #118 mikeymom

well, im linen this thread, so nite all--bless!

Good night. Just turned into morning.

122 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:00:33pm

re: #95 bosforus

Shit! Beat me too it by a mile!

123 Racer X  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:00:38pm
124 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:01:03pm

re: #113 AMER1CAN

I went to preschool with a few friends and even have some pictures from way back in those days. I have been out of touch with some of them for 15+ years. A lot of them have been on facebook for awhile and have a lot of pictures and info posted.... so now I am on there and I go and check there Wall out and I see they have kids of their own and are married and just all kinds of different things!

It's a lot to process to be honest. But in a good way. It's been a positive experience seeing what old friends and acquaintances are doing with life and I'm excited to be able to share back with them now.

That's lovely! I use it to to keep in touch with some rellies in Austria, as well as friends here (and play that rotten game ):-)

125 stuiec  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:01:06pm

re: #118 mikeymom

well, im linen this thread, so nite all--bless!

Good night, and remember the immortal words of Winston Churchill:

"I have nothing to offer but blood, toile, tears and sweat."

126 stuiec  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:01:51pm

re: #120 gmsc

These puns are getting worsted by the minute.

Ironically, that's the first time anyone's been bested by worsted.

127 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:02:42pm

Now being shown: Army firing over and ON demonstrators, tear-gas employed...

128 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:02:48pm

re: #123 Racer X

Mercury Capsule

Cool. Ballistic capsule!

Only 2 Mercury 7 astronauts alive today.

129 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:03:22pm

TV clips show as many 'journalists' as troops

130 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:03:25pm

re: #127 Karridine

Now being shown: Army firing over and ON demonstrators, tear-gas employed...

On? That's not good.

131 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:03:39pm

re: #130 Gus 802

Not good.

132 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:04:23pm

re: #111 JohnAdams

Upding.
How's PJ doing? I hear he is ill.

news to me.... i'll have to check. bad news, it it's true.

133 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:04:29pm

Images of burning public bus....

134 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:04:40pm

re: #131 Karridine

Not good.

That's bad. Drive them back, fire tear gas, beat them if you must but shooting at an unarmed crowd ain't right.

135 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:05:03pm

Good gravy! Say one polite thing to a guy on the street and he's all, "You got a boyfriend?" Maybe he doesn't realize that it reeks of desperation?

136 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:05:07pm

re: #127 Karridine

Now being shown: Army firing over and ON demonstrators, tear-gas employed...

Thanks for the updates!

137 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:06:41pm

Karridine -

Here is a report where the red shirts claim 3 dead

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

This morning's battle marked a further increase in the tensions of recent days that have already seen the Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva’s car furiously attacked, and buses commandeered to blockade streets all over the city.

Now the red-shirts have revenge on their minds, after dozens of their number were wounded in this morning's raid, and, they claim, at least three were killed. Phootawan Phetrasathian, carrying a Thai flag over his shoulder, was furious. "Thai soldiers killed people last night, at three in the morning," he told The Times. "It was nearby, on Din Daeng road. We want the army to leave. We want Abhisit (the Thai prime minister) to get out. He's no good. His ministers are no good."

Mr Phootawan, who is usually employed selling coffee from a trolley, said the soldiers' M16s and Uzis did not scare him. "I don't have anything, only two hands and two legs, but I'm not afraid."

138 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:06:44pm

re: #114 mikeymom

sorry--i dont cotton to that theory

wool come up with a different one then..... weave got more that one way to warp your mind.

139 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:07:12pm

re: #134 Gus 802

It might have been a troop or two firing against ROE, but I SAW his M-16, firing at ground level, parallel, human-killing angle, Gus!

140 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:07:56pm

re: #133 Karridine

Images of burning public bus....

Dozens injured in Thai army crackdown

NHK report from Japan.

141 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:09:41pm

re: #137 karmic_inquisitor

Some credence there.

24 hour attitude... but the govt has already thrown down and drawn down on the Red Shirts...

142 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:09:48pm

re: #135 Sharmuta

Shit, sorry. I wasn't trying to appear desperate, I was just checking to see if you were unattached. Didn't want to, you know, start putting "the moves" on a gal with a boyfriend. Or a husband.
/call me old fashioned...

143 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:10:32pm

re: #139 Karridine

It might have been a troop or two firing against ROE, but I SAW his M-16, firing at ground level, parallel, human-killing angle, Gus!

Sounds rather desperate. Even firing live rounds over their heads is not standard. Water canons used to be another method of large crowd control.

144 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:11:07pm

re: #140 Gus 802

Got it, thx, Gus!

145 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:11:52pm

Hola Honcos, just checking in here before bedtime. Hope everyone had a great Easter.

Is it true it was Marine snipers that got the pirates?

146 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:11:54pm

this is sounding more and more like Burma than Thailand.....

/damn shame

147 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:12:02pm

re: #144 Karridine

Got it, thx, Gus!

You're welcome.

148 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:12:25pm

re: #143 Gus 802

Sounds rather desperate. Even firing live rounds over their heads is not standard. Water cannons used to be another method of large crowd control.

There WAS a 70-meter water cannon in use near the burning bus, but down-firing troops, too... desperate, yes...

149 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:12:34pm

re: #145 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hola Honcos, just checking in here before bedtime. Hope everyone had a great Easter.

Is it true it was Marine snipers that got the pirates?

US snipers..... that's good enough for me.

150 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:12:43pm

re: #146 redc1c4

this is sounding more and more like Burma than Thailand.....

/damn shame

I was thinking the very same thing earlier.

151 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:13:24pm

Big Japanese talking head now issuing public statement re Thailand...

152 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:13:24pm

re: #148 Karridine

There WAS a 70-meter water cannon in use near the burning bus, but down-firing troops, too... desperate, yes...

70 meter?

*thats* impressive........

153 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:14:00pm

re: #145 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hola Honcos, just checking in here before bedtime. Hope everyone had a great Easter.

Is it true it was Marine snipers that got the pirates?

Saw a couple stories with the snipers as Marines. Most now say SEALs.

154 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:14:03pm

Now the S&P has cut Thailand's credit rating ...

The Baht is getting shorted as a result. Mr. Soros? Mr. Soros?

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

155 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:15:00pm

re: #149 redc1c4

US snipers..... that's good enough for me.

Good enough for me, too. I was so proud. I was originally playing "Anchor's Aweigh".

156 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:15:12pm

re: #148 Karridine

There WAS a 70-meter water cannon in use near the burning bus, but down-firing troops, too... desperate, yes...

Could close the airport and divert fire fighting equipment as water canons for crowd control. Crazy idea probably.

157 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:15:18pm

re: #142 Slumbering Behemoth

Aww- well thanks for calling me pretty.

158 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:15:19pm

c yall in the morning ...

159 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:15:33pm

re: #153 Bobibutu

Saw a couple stories with the snipers as Marines. Most now say SEALs.

and unless it's a DOD press release, none of the MFM have the slightest fucking clue on the issue.

160 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:15:34pm

Pix coming in from Lamphun, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai... Red Shirts everywhere, cops sympathetic, NOT rousting them...

161 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:15:56pm

re: #153 Bobibutu

Saw a couple stories with the snipers as Marines. Most now say SEALs.

Like Red said, as long as it's US, it's all good.

162 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:16:11pm

Apparently there are 30,000 Aussies living in Thailand, and another 25,000 on holidays there...

163 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:16:25pm

re: #135 Sharmuta

Good gravy! Say one polite thing to a guy on the street and he's all, "You got a boyfriend?" Maybe he doesn't realize that it reeks of desperation?

Just tell him, yes, you have a boyfriend, and he's far more than 3 apples high!
;)

164 bosforus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:16:40pm

re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth

Shit! Beat me too it by a mile!

That's OK, it's easy to miss those immediate follow up comments somethymes.
Going to bed, g'night!

165 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:17:04pm

Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.

Hope everyone has a great Easter Monday. It's a Holiday here so I will be sitting by the pool and posting in about 2 hours. As soon as I finish up at work :)

166 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:17:06pm

re: #160 Karridine

Thanks for the info. NY Nana and I have been worried about you. Stay safe.

167 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:17:18pm

re: #163 gmsc

Just tell him, yes, you have a boyfriend, he brings his own fruitcup and he's far more than 3 apples high!
;)

FTFY!

168 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:17:28pm

re: #162 aussiemagpie

There's a permanent presence of at least 70,000 Euro-Americans here in Bangkok... that's a good sized city within the city...

169 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:17:29pm

re: #162 aussiemagpie

Apparently there are 30,000 Aussies living in Thailand, and another 25,000 on holidays there...

After the state of emergency was declared, most of them were probably wise enough to stay in their rooms.

I hope all the tourists stay safe, and can get home safely.

170 stuiec  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:17:32pm

re: #138 redc1c4

wool come up with a different one then..... weave got more that one way to warp your mind.

I see the compulsion to pun looms large in your psyche.

171 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:18:01pm

re: #145 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hola Honcos, just checking in here before bedtime. Hope everyone had a great Easter.

Is it true it was Marine snipers that got the pirates?

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

How SEALs Carried Out Their Mission

The operation to rescue Capt. Richard Phillips involved dozens of Navy SEALs, who parachuted from an aircraft into the scene near dark Saturday, landing in the ocean. The SEALs were part of a group of Special Operations forces involved in the effort, according to military officials.

...

"In the last discussion, they said, 'If we don't get what we want, we will kill the captain,' " the official said.

Soon afterward, two pirates moved to one of the hatches of the lifeboat and stuck their heads out. The third pirate advanced toward the captain and pointed his AK-47 straight at Phillips's back, the rifle touching it or inches away, the official said.

U.S. military observers thought that Phillips was about to be shot. SEAL snipers, who were positioned on a deck at the stern of the Bainbridge, an area known as the fantail, had the three pirates in their sights. The on-scene commander gave the snipers authority to fire.

"As soon as the snipers had a clear shot at the guy who had the rifle, they shot him and the other two in the hatches," the senior military official said.

A member of the Special Operations team slid down the tow line into the water and climbed aboard the lifeboat. Phillips was then put in a small craft and taken to the Bainbridge.

172 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:18:28pm

What does FTFY mean ?

*Ignorant me* :-)

173 redc1c4  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:18:42pm

re: #170 stuiec

I see the compulsion to pun looms large in your psyche.

there's a common thread between us......

174 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:19:25pm

re: #172 aussiemagpie

What does FTFY mean ?

*Ignorant me* :-)

Fixed That For You

175 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:20:18pm

re: #171 Bobibutu

I'm going to dig out my SEAL t-shirt and wear it tomorrow. "Peace Through Superior Firepower", "Seal Team Eight".

Looking at your link now.

176 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:20:44pm

re: #157 Sharmuta

Ha! What with that blonde hair, and those robust, blue... *ahem* endowments. How could any cad/gentleman not call you pretty?
/

177 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:20:52pm

re: #172 aussiemagpie

What does FTFY mean ?

*Ignorant me* :-)

re: #174 Gus 802

Fixed That For You

Thanks for fixing it, but what does FTFY mean?

//

178 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:21:02pm

re: #168 Karridine

There's a permanent presence of at least 70,000 Euro-Americans here in Bangkok... that's a good sized city within the city...

Yes, plus all those Aussies! That's a lot of people

179 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:21:08pm

live VDO from downtown... troops sweeping mostly empty streets.. the Red Shirts are NOT offering pitched resistance... they're passionate, but they seem to know the limits of their effective power....

180 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:22:28pm

re: #175 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm going to dig out my SEAL t-shirt and wear it tomorrow. "Peace Through Superior Firepower", "Seal Team Eight".

Looking at your link now.

You know, I'm thinking that Somalia just might not be prime canvassing territory for Easter Seals.

181 stuiec  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:22:47pm

re: #47 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, not being hard on myself. I am a big fan of self deprecating humor, and also a fan of finding something funny in typos. I dorked a lame joke by misspelling a word, and found it funny enough to point out. Meh.

/sense of humor mileage may vary, and I am easily amused.

I'm not such a big fan of self-defecating humor -- you know, the kind that literally makes one lose bowel control.

182 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:22:53pm

re: #178 aussiemagpie

On any given day, there are tens of thousands of tourists in the city... at least, there WERE before December...

183 I Need A Bigger Gun  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:22:59pm

Over the last week or so, I've heard a couple of radio pundits say that the American people and the politicians in Washington (at least the liberals) have slipped back into a pre-9/11 mentality, and how dangerous that is. Well, even more dangerous than that, in my opinion, is that the terrorists have also slipped back into a pre-9/11 mentality, one that says that The United States (Sunday's rescue not withstanding) is once again a toothless tiger, one that makes a lot of noise but ultimately does nothing. This is exactly what led to 9/11 itself: the thought that the U.S. government would not retaliate. I think the terrorists learned a lesson: don't mess with a Republican president. That's why they have stayed at arm's length since, at least until now. Now that we have another liberal in the White House, it's probably going to be open season again. And that is very dangerous indeed.

184 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:23:24pm

re: #169 gmsc

After the state of emergency was declared, most of them were probably wise enough to stay in their rooms.

I hope all the tourists stay safe, and can get home safely.

I've just read that our Foreign Minister Stephen Smith has told Aussies to stay in their homes and hotels...

185 Colonel Panik  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:23:41pm

re: #141 Karridine

Some credence there.

24 hour attitude... but the govt has already thrown down and drawn down on the Red Shirts...

Good to hear you are safe K!

I still don't quite understand what the different factions represent, other than the RedShirts supported the deposed PM, Thaksin.

Didn't Thaksin authorize a crackdown against the Muslim terrorists in the south a few years ago?

186 NY Nana  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:24:06pm

Karradine,

Please take care!

Off to sleep, way too late as usual, but I have now found my theme song! ;)

G'nite, all. Sweet dreams!

187 stuiec  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:24:23pm

re: #173 redc1c4

there's a common thread between us......

Well, then we could take turn spinning yarns. Or, as Michael Palin put it, "Ripping Yarns"!

188 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:24:44pm

re: #180 Alberta Oil Peon

You know, I'm thinking that Somalia just might not be prime canvassing territory for Easter Seals.

ROFLMAO

189 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:24:49pm

re: #186 NY Nana

Karradine,

Please take care!

Off to sleep, way too late as usual, but I have now found my theme song! ;)


[Video]

G'nite, all. Sweet dreams!

See ya Nana.

190 Karridine  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:25:09pm

re: #185 Colonel Panik

Roger that.

AND nationwide death to drug-dealers... street drugs are once again readily available and BIG BUSINESS in Thaksin's absence...

191 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:25:20pm

re: #174 Gus 802

Fixed That For You

Thank you :-)

192 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:25:42pm

re: #186 NY Nana

"Nite, Nana. Sweet dreams to you, too.

193 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:25:56pm

re: #175 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm going to dig out my SEAL t-shirt and wear it tomorrow. "Peace Through Superior Firepower", "Seal Team Eight".

Looking at your link now.

We don't get to hear much about these troops ... what a cool op ... stealth para jump into the ocean at night ... get aboard ship. Set their trap and execute it.

Hats off to everyone.

194 rawmuse  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:26:44pm

Yikes, I went over to the LGF group on FB, and it appears to have a healthy dose of detractors therein. I guess I will have to join in order to beat some sense in to their heads.

195 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:27:59pm

re: #194 rawmuse

Yikes, I went over to the LGF group on FB, and it appears to have a healthy dose of detractors therein. I guess I will have to join in order to beat some sense in to their heads.

FB?

196 Erik The Red  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:28:12pm

re: #194 rawmuse

Yikes, I went over to the LGF group on FB, and it appears to have a healthy dose of detractors therein. I guess I will have to join in order to beat some sense in to their heads.

Look out for me over there. If you want to add as a friend send me a request with your LGF nic and I will accept.

197 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:28:25pm

re: #177 gmsc

HAHAHA! Love it, and thanks!

198 rawmuse  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:28:27pm

re: #195 Gus 802

FaceBook

199 stuiec  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:29:03pm

re: #180 Alberta Oil Peon

You know, I'm thinking that Somalia just might not be prime canvassing territory for Easter Seals.

Maybe we could send them a supply of Memorial Day SEALs -- and Rangers, and Marines, and assorted other soldiers, and sailors, and airmen.

Nah... that would be much too much to hope for.

200 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:29:14pm

re: #198 rawmuse

FaceBook

Ah, right. Thanks.

201 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:29:32pm

re: #197 aussiemagpie

HAHAHA! Love it, and thanks!

Always glad to bring another smile into the world!
:)

202 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:29:40pm

re: #194 rawmuse

Yikes, I went over to the LGF group on FB, and it appears to have a healthy dose of detractors therein. I guess I will have to join in order to beat some sense in to their heads.

What?!

203 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:29:51pm

re: #199 stuiec

Maybe we could send them a supply of Memorial Day SEALs -- and Rangers, and Marines, and assorted other soldiers, and sailors, and airmen.

Nah... that would be much too much to hope for.

That would be great, wouldn't it?

204 pat  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:30:16pm

Obama's 4 days of having the Justice Department and FBI hostage specialist may make him a hero to some, but to me he is a moron. The delay was caused by him trying to implement his delusional beliefs, trying to talk to the "moderate" pirates. Hillary's bizarre laugh, I think, has told us every thing we need to know about this administration.

205 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:30:28pm

re: #182 Karridine

On any given day, there are tens of thousands of tourists in the city... at least, there WERE before December...

Yes, some friends changed their holiday destination to Vietnam after the airport drama in Bangkok

206 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:30:29pm

re: #181 stuiec

I'm not such a big fan of self-defecating humor -- you know, the kind that literally makes one lose bowel control.

Sir, you take this joke too far, and I am horribly offended!

/not so much...

207 aussiemagpie  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:32:46pm

Back in a while, so goodnight to those heading for bed, I'd better do some domestic goddess stuff :-)

208 stuiec  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:33:08pm

re: #203 Alberta Oil Peon

That would be great, wouldn't it?

Only if the guy sending them really meant it, and gave them both the authority and the tools to do the job properly.

209 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:33:35pm

re: #193 Bobibutu

We don't get to hear much about these troops ... what a cool op ... stealth para jump into the ocean at night ... get aboard ship. Set their trap and execute it.

Hats off to everyone.

Hats off, indeed.

Did you know the Marines have something similar to that now? It is called MARSOC. You can google it. They are swimming my young relative to death.

210 stuiec  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:34:56pm

re: #206 Slumbering Behemoth

Sir, you take this joke too far, and I am horribly offended!

/not so much...

Then you'll be glad to know I'm too pooped to take it further.

211 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:35:11pm

re: #202 Sharmuta

OMG I am glad I didn't join.

212 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:35:40pm

re: #194 rawmuse

Who was the newbie Lizard that not long ago was pitching/promoting a LGF related Facebook thang?

213 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:37:24pm

re: #211 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG I am glad I didn't join.

Yeah- Me too.

re: #212 Slumbering Behemoth

It was Afrocity. I hope she's not involved in this.

214 wiffersnapper  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:37:36pm

SEALs 1, Pirates 0

215 rawmuse  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:37:44pm

re: #212 Slumbering Behemoth

Who was the newbie Lizard that not long ago was pitching/promoting a LGF related Facebook thang?

Dunno.

216 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:38:13pm

re: #212 Slumbering Behemoth

Who was the newbie Lizard that not long ago was pitching/promoting a LGF related Facebook thang?

Afrocity I think.

217 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:38:39pm

re: #212 Slumbering Behemoth

And on that, am I wrong in the understanding that Facebook accounts require real, meat world identifications?

218 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:39:12pm

re: #212 Slumbering Behemoth

I remember that Winston06 and Afrocity both got on it but I don't know if they were the promoters. I have nothing against either of them, that's just what I remember.

219 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:39:14pm

Reilly & Maloney - Brand New Light

220 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:39:19pm

re: #217 Slumbering Behemoth

And on that, am I wrong in the understanding that Facebook accounts require real, meat world identifications?

I visited Facebook once. That was enough.

221 rawmuse  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:39:45pm

re: #213 Sharmuta

Yeah- Me too.

re: #212 Slumbering Behemoth

It was Afrocity. I hope she's not involved in this.

I don;t see any bad remarks by her as such, but she is there.
First of all, anyone CAN join that group, lizard or no. All you have to do is go there and say you want to join.

222 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:40:14pm

re: #215 rawmuse

What's going on over there?

223 TheMatrix31  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:40:52pm

Is Afrocity no longer around on LGF?

224 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:42:22pm

Faith Hill's "This Kiss" – Las Vegas style!

225 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:43:14pm

re: #223 TheMatrix31

Is Afrocity no longer around on LGF?

She told me she's going to focus on her own blog.

226 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:43:28pm

re: #209 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hats off, indeed.

Did you know the Marines have something similar to that now? It is called MARSOC. You can google it. They are swimming my young relative to death.

As they say: ...to win wars before they ever begin.

Tip of the spear indeed.

227 NY Nana  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:43:53pm

re: #189 Gus 802

See ya Nana.

/Still trying to remember what I was looking for! ;)

G'nite, for real, sort of.

228 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:44:34pm

re: #227 NY Nana

/Still trying to remember what I was looking for! ;)

G'nite, for real, sort of.

For sleep! ;) Have a good sleep.

229 rawmuse  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:44:41pm

re: #222 Sharmuta

What's going on over there?

Several discussion threads, not many comments, but a few very pointed detractors. I could name names, but not here.

230 gmsc  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:45:18pm

re: #229 rawmuse

Several discussion threads, not many comments, but a few very pointed detractors. I could name names, but not here.

Which, in and of itself, proves you to be classier than any of the detractors.

231 TheMatrix31  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:45:28pm

re: #225 Sharmuta

She told me she's going to focus on her own blog.

Ah, ok cool

232 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:46:48pm

re: #226 Bobibutu

As they say: ...to win wars before they ever begin.

Tip of the spear indeed.

I am very proud but scared, too. Thank God they recognize his other talents which have nothing to do with the "tip of the spear". He is a baby, making Sgt., and being sent back east to teach a class on his MOS.

233 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:47:21pm

re: #217 Slumbering Behemoth

And on that, am I wrong in the understanding that Facebook accounts require real, meat world identifications?

Facebook. Never had it, likely never will. But I still ask: does membership require concrete billing info, a.k.a. real meat world identification?

In other words, would Lizards wanting to sign up with a particular Facebook group have to surrender their anonymity to do so?

Hmm...

234 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:47:28pm

re: #229 rawmuse

Several discussion threads, not many comments, but a few very pointed detractors. I could name names, but not here.

Oh well. Detraction indicates a feeling of rejection. Life is full of both I suppose. It's not like we all agree on everything here despite what the detractors say. Disagreement shouldn't mean that someone rejects the other.

//I know I'm babbling.

235 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:49:18pm

Anyone remember when some Chechen terrorists stormed into a theater in Moscow, and took a great many people hostage? A Russian special tactics group dusted the whole auditorium with some fast-acting knockout gas, and then went in and methodically shot nearly all the Chechens. I think a few of the hostages succumbed to the effects of the gas, but most were rescued.

Seems to me that gas would be a useful weapon in the arsenal for dealing with hostage-takings like the one that just ended.

236 NY Nana  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:49:40pm

re: #211 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG I am glad I didn't join.

I am fighting with my stupid blood glucose, damn it, and I will not let it win.

/I am on facebook, but very rarely use it. And I am on the LGF group, but my superb typing skills make it difficult for everyone to keep up with me!

If you buy the part re my typing skills? I have a bridge to sell you!

G'nite for real. Got to test again to see if my blood glucose is coming back up...too low to go to sleep with, until it goes to a normal number. I will not let diabetes win, damn it.

237 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:52:56pm

Lizards, I'd better hit the hay. It was a long day for us. I had no intention of doing Easter dinner as we went early somewhere else but people wanted to come over to see my hubby, just out of that hospital, so I cooked a little something.

GO SEALS!

238 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:53:40pm

re: #235 Alberta Oil Peon

Anyone remember when some Chechen terrorists stormed into a theater in Moscow, and took a great many people hostage? A Russian special tactics group dusted the whole auditorium with some fast-acting knockout gas, and then went in and methodically shot nearly all the Chechens. I think a few of the hostages succumbed to the effects of the gas, but most were rescued.

Seems to me that gas would be a useful weapon in the arsenal for dealing with hostage-takings like the one that just ended.

Found it last night but forgot what the chemical was. It's a sleeping agent of sorts. I think it could hold promise if fully developed but we have some rather strange laws regarding that since I think it would fall under chemical weapons treaties when used. Odd I know.

Here's something from Janes.

Russian ‘sleeping gas’ may have been halothane/fentanyl cocktail

239 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:53:47pm

re: #235 Alberta Oil Peon

Anyone remember when some Chechen terrorists stormed into a theater in Moscow, and took a great many people hostage? A Russian special tactics group dusted the whole auditorium with some fast-acting knockout gas, and then went in and methodically shot nearly all the Chechens. I think a few of the hostages succumbed to the effects of the gas, but most were rescued.

Seems to me that gas would be a useful weapon in the arsenal for dealing with hostage-takings like the one that just ended.

No! It was more than a few hostages- it was a massacre.

Moscow theater hostage crisis

240 Gus  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:54:09pm

re: #237 Pvt Bin Jammin

Lizards, I'd better hit the hay. It was a long day for us. I had no intention of doing Easter dinner as we went early somewhere else but people wanted to come over to see my hubby, just out of that hospital, so I cooked a little something.

GO SEALS!

Good, morning.

241 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:55:46pm

re: #232 Pvt Bin Jammin

I am very proud but scared, too. Thank God they recognize his other talents which have nothing to do with the "tip of the spear". He is a baby, making Sgt., and being sent back east to teach a class on his MOS.

They are all national treasures. And yes ... scary stuff.

242 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:58:22pm

re: #236 NY Nana

Be careful, Nana. I know you know what to do.

BTW, patient is in a world of hurt over here. He finally took the oxycontin and he never takes that stuff as a rule.

Take care.

243 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 12, 2009 11:59:47pm

re: #241 Bobibutu

My older brother was counterintelligence. That's his grandson. OMG

244 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:00:00am

Today in History, April 13th:

Today's Highlight in History:

On April 13, 1743, the third president of the United States, Thomas Jefferson, was born in Shadwell, Va.

On this date:

In 1598, King Henry IV of France endorsed the Edict of Nantes, which granted rights to the Protestant Huguenots. (The edict was abrogated in 1685 by King Louis XIV, who declared France entirely Catholic again.)

In 1742, Handel's "Messiah" was first performed publicly in Dublin, Ireland.

In 1870, the Metropolitan Museum of Art was incorporated in New York. (The original museum opened in 1872.)

In 1909, author Eudora Welty was born in Jackson, Miss.

In 1943, President Franklin D. Roosevelt dedicated the Jefferson Memorial.

In 1958, American pianist Van Cliburn, 23, won the first International Tchaikovsky Competition in Moscow.

In 1964, Sidney Poitier became the first black performer in a leading role to win an Academy Award, for "Lilies of the Field."

In 1970, Apollo 13, four-fifths of the way to the moon, was crippled when a tank containing liquid oxygen burst. (The astronauts managed to return safely.)

In 1986, Pope John Paul II visited the Great Synagogue of Rome in the first recorded papal visit of its kind to a Jewish house of worship.

In 1992, the Great Chicago Flood took place as the city's century-old tunnel system and adjacent basements filled with water from the Chicago River.

In 1999, Right-to-die advocate Dr. Jack Kevorkian was sentenced in Pontiac, Mich., to 10 to 25 years in prison for second-degree murder in the lethal injection of a Lou Gehrig's disease patient. (Kevorkian ended up serving eight years.)

Today's Birthdays:
Movie director Stanley Donen is 85.
Former Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell, R-Colo., is 76.
Actor Lyle Waggoner is 74.
Actor Edward Fox is 72.
Playwright Lanford Wilson is 72.
Actor Paul Sorvino is 70.
Movie and TV composer Bill Conti is 67.
Rock musician Jack Casady is 65.
Actor Tony Dow is 64.
Singer Al Green is 63.
Actor Ron Perlman is 59.
Actor William Sadler is 59.
Singer Peabo Bryson is 58.
"Late Night with Conan O'Brien" bandleader/rock musician Max Weinberg is 58.
Bluegrass singer-musician Sam Bush is 57.
Rock musician Jimmy Destri is 55.
Singer-musician Louis Johnson (The Brothers Johnson) is 54.
Comedian Gary Kroeger is 52.
Actress Saundra Santiago is 52.
Rock musician Joey Mazzola (Sponge) is 48.
Chess grandmaster Garry Kasparov is 46.
Actress Page Hannah is 45.
Actress-comedian Caroline Rhea is 45.
Rock musician Lisa Umbarger is 44.
Rock musician Marc Ford is 43.
Reggae singer Capleton is 42.
Actor Ricky Schroder is 39.
Rock singer Aaron Lewis (Staind) is 37.
Actor Bokeem Woodbine is 36.
Singer Lou Bega is 34.
Actor-producer Glenn Howerton is 33.
Basketball player Baron Davis is 30.
Actress Courtney Peldon is 28.
Pop singer Nellie McKay is 27.

Thought for Today: "The excursion is the same when you go looking for your sorrow as when you go looking for your joy."

245 Gus  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:02:02am

re: #244 gmsc

"Lilies of the Field"

246 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:02:22am

re: #244 gmsc

You forgot blogger Charles Johnson on the birthday list.

247 Bob Dillon  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:02:33am

re: #243 Pvt Bin Jammin

My older brother was counterintelligence. That's his grandson. OMG

Oh my ... we'll have to chat more on this .. I've got to get to sleep. Nite all.

248 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:02:41am

I am really out now but I just have to type my sister and my little grade school thing that we used to put in every springtime card:

Happy Easter!
Happy Spring!
Happy, Happy Everything!

249 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:03:06am

It's also Thomas Jefferson's birthday. Happy Birthday Mr President!

250 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:03:12am

re: #248 Pvt Bin Jammin

I am really out now but I just have to type my sister and my little grade school thing that we used to put in every springtime card:

Happy Easter!
Happy Spring!
Happy, Happy Everything!

How cute!

Sleep well, PBJ!

251 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:03:28am

Little Lucy was playing in the garden when she spotted two spiders
mating. "Daddy, what are those two spiders doing?"
"They're mating, Lucy" he replied.
"What do you call the spider on top Daddy?" Lucy asked.
"Oh, that's a Daddy Longlegs.
Lucy asked, "Oh, so one's a Daddy Longlegs and the other one is a
Mommy Longlegs?"
Daddy replied, "No, both of them are Daddy Longlegs."
Lucy thought for a moment, then took her foot and stamped them flat.
Well, we're not having THAT sort of thing in our garden!"

252 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:03:56am

re: #246 Sharmuta

You forgot blogger Charles Johnson on the birthday list.

Oops – Happy birthday, Charles!

re: #249 Sharmuta

It's also Thomas Jefferson's birthday. Happy Birthday Mr President!

Now I know I didn't forget that one! He's 266 today!

253 UncleRancher  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:07:06am

/lurkin'
Happy Monday Morning to y'all. Can't stay long. Need more shut-eye. You can divide up my fruitcup later.

254 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:09:48am

Evening late night lizards, I miss anything of consequence in the past 10 hours?

255 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:09:58am

Obama = Scar (from The Lion King)?!?

256 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:10:26am

re: #254 rhino2

Evening late night lizards, I miss anything of consequence in the past 10 hours?

Thailand is under martial law, and 70 people have been injured in the riots.

257 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:11:36am

re: #242 Pvt Bin Jammin

Be careful, Nana. I know you know what to do.

BTW, patient is in a world of hurt over here. He finally took the oxycontin and he never takes that stuff as a rule.

Take care.

It is now high enough to go to sleep...and ironically I have an appt. with our Endocrinologist today.

The patient needs Nurse Ratchett to get him to behave! You are waaaay too kind. That he is taking oxycontin is for him unusual, and please tell him that his body is sending him a message.

Trust me: there is only one word that is appropriate when a male is sick, post-op, etc., and that word is:

MEN

Speaking of men, NY Grampa is giving me 'The Look', as it really is past bedtime here.

Hope you and hubby get a good night's sleep, and that he feels better in the morning.

258 Gus  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:12:24am

re: #255 gmsc

Obama = Scar (from The Lion King)?!?

[Video]

Jeremy Irons?

259 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:12:37am

re: #239 Sharmuta

No! It was more than a few hostages- it was a massacre.

Moscow theater hostage crisis

I read the Wiki entry, which may not be exactly unbiased. So somewhere under a quarter of the hostages succumbed to the gas, and it would appear that many of those might have survived if the FSB hadn't bungled the rescue, and made an antidote available to the civilian medical personnel.

Nevertheless, the Russian authorities were between a rock and hard place. Had they not acted, the Chechens might well have commenced murdering hostages. They were well-armed with firearms, even if many of the explosives they carried later proved to be dummies.

I still think that type of gas would be useful to have on hand.

260 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:13:34am

Thickens, the plot does.

/yoda

261 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:14:41am

re: #255 gmsc

re: #256 gmsc

I loved the lion king when I was little - probably a little too much, I remember one day I watched it probably 5 times.

And are there any links to that story?

262 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:15:11am

re: #258 Gus 802

Jeremy Irons?

Oh, the Irony!

(Who knew Jeremy Irons could sing?)

263 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:15:40am

Hiya lizards! How was everyone's weekend?

/Probably not as good as Captain Phillips' Easter.

264 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:16:46am

re: #263 Fenway_Nation

Great! Got back a couple hours ago from the parent's house, had a delicious Easter steak dinner.

265 Gus  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:16:58am

re: #262 gmsc

Oh, the Irony!

(Who knew Jeremy Irons could sing?)

What would Sebastian say?

Brideshead Revisited - Charles has lunch with Sebastian

266 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:17:42am

re: #257 NY Nana

{Nana}- you get some sleep now, young lady!

267 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:19:37am

re: #261 rhino2

re: #256 gmsc

I loved the lion king when I was little - probably a little too much, I remember one day I watched it probably 5 times.

And are there any links to that story?

Any links to the full video online legally? No.
Any links to the full video online? Of course.

268 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:19:54am

What he said...

? ? ?

269 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:20:18am

Later Lizards. Going home to spend the day by the pool, drinking cold beer/scotch and watching South Africa beat Australia at cricket. See you all shortly. :)

270 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:21:32am

re: #267 gmsc

Should have separated it more I guess, second line was referring to the Thailand situation you spoke of.

271 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:23:09am

re: #270 rhino2

Should have separated it more I guess, second line was referring to the Thailand situation you spoke of.

Oh, that makes more sense!

Gus 802's excellent article video/link from earlier:

Dozens injured in Thai army crackdown

NHK report from Japan.

272 victor_yugo  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:24:09am

On Navy SEAL's:

A friend of mine is married to an Army Ranger. During a visit in 2001 she told me:

"The Rangers and the Special Forces have their rivalries, but both of them bow at the feet of the SEAL's."

273 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:24:19am

re: #259 Alberta Oil Peon

It was a horrible situation, for sure.

274 Gus  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:25:26am

re: #271 gmsc

Thanks. Yes, bad things happening in Thailand. 70 injured but so far no one dead as reported. They're firing live rounds into the crowd.

275 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:25:49am

re: #271 gmsc

Thanks!

276 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:27:07am

re: #275 rhino2

Thanks!

You're welcome.

277 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:31:00am

Has anyone heard from Karradine at all? Isn't he the lizard residing in Bangkok? I hope he and his family are able to hunker down and sit this one out.....

278 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:32:02am

re: #277 Fenway_Nation

Has anyone heard from Karradine at all? Isn't he the lizard residing in Bangkok? I hope he and his family are able to hunker down and sit this one out.....

{Karradine}

279 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:35:11am

Facebook... if the 200 MILLION people at Facebook were a nation, they'd be the world's FIFTH largest, between Brazil and Indonesia!

"...and the times they are a'changin'.."

280 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:36:43am

Take your mind off your troubles, and try this out at home. Follow the instructions and you'll have some fun, as well as be surprised at the end!

281 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:37:23am

TV has gone back MOSTLY to regularly scheduled programming (for this holiday) with frequent updates on the situation... a LOT of Calling and WEBCAM and PHONE-VID for everybody, so the accountability and reference points are increasing, wiggle-space for the tale-spinners is lessening, and theres a LOT on TV...

282 Gus  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:40:16am

See everyone later. Have a good morning, afternoon or night.

Go Navy!

283 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:40:39am

re: #282 Gus 802

See everyone later. Have a good morning, afternoon or night.

Go Navy!


[Video]

Good night, Gus!

284 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:40:45am

re: #282 Gus 802

Sleep well

285 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:40:48am

re: #281 Karridine
Hey buddy,
Long time no see.
Take care for now...keep the family safe.

VIA

286 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:42:37am

re: #285 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Sir, YESSIR! Good to hear from YOU again... and a chance to say, "Sons really DUG the hat, thanks! AND we watch the vids from yr ex-ship every month..."

..and we're kilometers away from epicenters of disturbance, VIA...

287 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:45:05am

re: #281 Karridine

Does Thai TV have the ubiquitous scrolling news/updates at the bottom of the screen?

288 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:45:46am

re: #287 Fenway_Nation

Does Thai TV have the ubiquitous scrolling news/updates at the bottom of the screen?

Roger that. In Thai script...

289 gmsc  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:45:55am

Last night's NyQuil helped with my cold, but I'm still only 85%-90% back up to speed, so I'm going to try some more NyQuil tonight and some more going to bed early, so I can face the day at work tomorrow!

Good night, all!

(My fruitcup is up for grabs, if anyone wants it!)

290 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:45:57am

re: #286 Karridine

Glad the boys enjoyed it. I only wish I had time to grab two hats.

We were in your neighborhood several months ago, just didn't have the opportunity to reach out.

And even now....we aren't that far away.

If we do get there I hope it's purely a social visit, not business.

Gotta run for now...take care

291 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:47:26am

re: #288 Karridine

Good lord! Sometimes it's hard enough to follow when it's in English- let alone another alphabet.....

292 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:47:45am

re: #280 gmsc

Take your mind off your troubles, and try this out at home. Follow the instructions and you'll have some fun, as well as be surprised at the end!


[Video]

I recall watching that one in a motel room back when it originally aired. Uncanny, how that trick works. I have no idea how it works (I assume there is some sort of math/probability behind it), but of course I am of a mind to think "How is that done?" rather than thinking "OMG! He has devil powers!"
/

293 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:48:06am

re: #289 gmsc

Sleep well, gmsc!

Kick that cold

294 hiddenlizard  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:48:31am

mmmm miller lite

295 Flavia  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:48:56am

Gee, I wish someone would get ME a handful of dead pirates for
MY birthday! (pouts).

Seriously - Happy Birthday, Charles, hope the move went well, and

MORE DEAD PIRATES!

and

MORE DEAD TERRORISTS!

(Ok, so I'm greedy!)

296 coquimbojoe  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:49:04am

re: #288 Karridine

Roger that. In Thai script...

Be careful overthere! Hope things are well.

297 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:49:36am

Canada's Highway of Heroes:

298 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 12:59:28am

Interesting. The "show links" button doesn't show links like these.

299 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:11:13am

re: #298 Slumbering Behemoth

I didn't even realize there was a button for that until I read that....

300 Spiritualized  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:14:25am

Warning that Pakistan is in danger of collapse within months

"We have to face the fact that if Pakistan collapses it will dwarf anything we have seen so far in whatever we're calling the war on terror now," said David Kilcullen, a former Australian Army officer who was a specialist adviser for the Bush administration and is now a consultant to the Obama White House.

(....)

"The safety of people round the world is at stake," he said.

Laying out the scale of the challenges facing the US in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, Dr Kilcullen put the two countries invaded by US-led forces after the September 11 attacks on the US on a par - each had a population of more than 30 million.

"But Pakistan has 173 million people and 100 nuclear weapons, an army which is bigger than the American army, and the headquarters of al-Qaeda sitting in two-thirds of the country which the Government does not control," he told the Herald .

Wasn't Barry going to invade Pakistan?

301 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:14:38am

re: #280 gmsc

After a few samples, even going beyond the given parameters (a count between five and fifteen) you still end up on "The City", where the final count is controlled by four, which lands you on "The Moon", either way. I know it's a trick (just as I did back in the '90s when I first saw it), but I ain't sharp enough to figure out the math.

/tricksie hobbitses, they confounds the precious!

302 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:19:21am
303 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:21:45am

re: #302 Iron Fist

The Yellow-Shirt Putsch in December screwed me seriously, job-wise, and I'm having SERIOUS difficulty keeping food on my sons' table...

But THANKS for thinking of me, Iron!

304 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:28:42am

A husband and wife are getting all snugly in bed. The passion is heating up. But then the wife stops and says, "I don't feel like it, I just want you to hold me." The husband says "WHAT?"

The wife explains that he must be in tune with her emotional needs as a Woman. The husband realizes that nothing is going to happen that night and he might as well deal with it.

So the next day the husband takes her shopping at a big department store. He walks around and has her try on three very expensive outfits.

She can't decide. He tells his wife to take all three of them. Then they go over and get matching shoes worth $200 each. And then they go to the Jewellery Department where she gets a set of diamond earrings. The wife is so excited. She thinks her husband has flipped out - but she does not care.

She goes for the tennis bracelet. The husband says, "But you don't even play tennis! Well, OK if you like it then let's get it."

The wife is jumping up and down so excited she cannot even believe what is going on. She says, "I am ready to go, let's go to the cash register." The husband stops and says, "No, honey I don't feel like buying all this stuff now." The wife's face goes blank. "No honey - I just want you to hold this stuff for a while."

The look on her face is indescribable and she is about to explode and the husband says, "You must be in tune with my financial needs as a Man."

305 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:29:43am

David received a parrot for his birthday. This parrot was fully grown with a bad attitude and worse vocabulary. Every other word was an expletive. Those that weren't expletives were, to say the least, rude.

David tried hard to change the bird's attitude and was constantly saying polite words, playing soft music, and anything else that came to mind. Nothing worked. He yelled at the bird and the bird got worse. He shook the bird and the bird got madder and ruder.

Finally, in a moment of desperation, David put the parrot in the freezer. For a few moments he heard the bird squawking, kicking and screaming and then, suddenly, all was quiet.

David, frightened that he might have actually hurt the bird, quickly opened the freezer door. The parrot calmly stepped out onto David's extended arm and said, "I'm sorry that I offended you with my language and actions. I ask for your forgiveness."

David was astounded at the bird's change in attitude and was about to ask what changed him when the parrot continued, "May I ask what the chicken did?"

306 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:30:46am

Late one night, a burglar broke into a house he thought was empty. He tiptoed through the living room but suddenly he froze in his tracks when he heard a loud voice say, "Jesus is watching you!"

Silence returned to the house, so the burglar crept forward again.

"Jesus is watching you," the voice boomed again.

The burglar stopped dead again. He was frightened. Frantically, he looked all around. In a dark corner, he spotted a bird cage and in the cage was a parrot.

He asked the parrot, "Was that you who said Jesus is watching me?"

"Yes," said the parrot.

The burglar breathed a sigh of relief, and asked the parrot, "What's your name?"

"Clarence," said the bird.

"That's a stupid name for a parrot," sneered the burglar. "What idiot would name a parrot Clarence?"

The parrot said, "The same idiot who named the Rottweiller Jesus."

307 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:32:36am

A little girl and her mother were out and about.

Out of the blue, the girl asked her mother, "Mommy, How old are you?"

The mother responded, "Honey, women don't talk about their age. You'll learn this as you get older."

The girl then asked, "Mommy, how much do you weigh?"

Her mother responded again, "That's another thing women don't talk about. You'll learn this, too, as you grow up."

The girl, still wanting to know about her mother, then fired off another question, "Mommy, why did you and Daddy get a divorce?"

The mother, a little annoyed by the questions, responded, "Honey, that is a subject that hurts me very much, and I don't want to talk about it now."

The little girl, frustrated, sulked until she was dropped off at a friend's house to play. She consulted with her girlfriend about her and her mother's conversation.

The girlfriend said, "All you have to do is sneak a look at your mother's driver's license. It's just a like a report card from school. It tells you everything."

Later, the little girl and her mother were out and about again.

The little girl started off with, "Mommy, Mommy, I know how old you are. I know how old you are. You're 32 years old."

The mother was very shocked. She asked, "Sweetheart, how do you know that?"

The little girl shrugged and said, "I just know. And I know how much you weigh. You weigh 130 pounds."

"Where did you learn that?"

The little girl said, "I just know. And I know why you and Daddy got a divorce. You got an 'F' in sex."

308 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:33:41am

On Christmas morning a cop on horseback is sitting at a traffic light, and next to him is a kid on his shiny new bike. The cop says to the kid, "Nice bike you got there. Did Santa bring that to you?"

The kid replies, "Yeah."

The cop says, "Well, next year tell Santa to put a tail-light on that bike."

The cop then proceeds to issue the kid a $20.00 bicycle safety violation ticket.

The kid takes the ticket and before he rides off says, "By the way, that's a nice horse you got there. Did Santa bring that to you?"

Humoring the kid, the cop says, "Yeah, he sure did."

The kid continued, "Well, next year tell Santa to put the dick underneath the horse, instead of on top."

309 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:35:58am

re: #282 Gus 802

It's a math trick, one I am not smart enough (or sober enough) to see it "as is", but I am not gullible enough to go with the declaration that "Copperfield did it"!

310 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:37:12am

Not to take away from Dear Leader's authority as CinC in regards to the Somali pirate incident, but the slobbering all over DL from this AP writer is quite evident (and just what some here predicted):

Obama scores victory at sea

311 sngnsgt  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:39:38am

re: #305 Erik The Red

LOL!

312 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:40:17am

re: #310 talon_262

End of pirate crisis reveals quiet but decisive approach

A bit presumptuous , is it not?

313 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:42:14am

re: #312 Slumbering Behemoth

Ugh. I mean FROM YOUR LINK:


End of pirate crisis reveals quiet but decisive approach

A bit presumptuous , is it not?

314 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:42:53am

re: #312 Slumbering Behemoth

The MFMSM (and more specifically, this AP writer) is already trying to measure if DL's gonna get some political capital out of this:

The rescue appeared to vindicate Obama's muted but determined handling of the incident. What won't be known for some time is whether Obama will benefit politically.

315 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:43:34am

re: #313 Slumbering Behemoth

Didn't read the article, but am I to take that as to read "Obama authorized the rescue of the Captain, we killed 3 pirates in the process, so the piracy problem is solved." ?

316 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:44:05am

re: #309 Slumbering Behemoth

ANY 'secret number', marching into that matrix, then making FOUR MOVES in any direction AFTER he alters the matrix by removing a number of them, will end up on the one he chooses.

Think about it...

317 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:45:49am

re: #313 Slumbering Behemoth

Ugh. I mean FROM YOUR LINK:

A bit presumptuous , is it not?

Fuck yeah, it is...all DL did was reaffirm the ROE for incidents like this and the media is furiously spinning this as a glorious, shining example of his leadership and mettle, hoping this'll give him some relief from the domestic fuckups that he's hipdeep in.

318 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:47:09am

Two old pensioners are taking a trip down memory lane by going back to the place where they first met.

Sitting at a café, the little old man says, "Remember the first time I met you over 50 years ago? We left this cafe, went round the corner behind the gas works, and I gave you one from behind."

"Why, yes, I remember it well, dear," replies the little old lady with a grin.

"Well, for old time's sake, let's go there again. and I'll give you one from behind."

The two pensioners pay their bill and leave the cafe. A young man sitting next to them has overheard the conversation and smiles to himself, thinking it would be quite amusing to see two old pensioners at it. He gets up and follows them. Sure enough, he sees the two pensioners near the gas works. The little old lady pulls off her knickers and lifts up her dress.

The old man pulls down his pants and grabs the lady's hips, and the little old lady reaches for the fence. Well, what follows is 40 minutes of the most athletic sex the man has ever seen. The little old man is banging away at the little old woman at a pace that can only be described as phenomenal. Limbs are flying everywhere, the movement is a blur, and they do not stop for a single second. Finally, they collapse and don't move for an hour.

Well, the man is stunned. Never in his life has he ever seen anything that equates to this -- not in the movies, not from his friends, not from his own experiences.

Reflecting on what he has just seen, he says to himself, "I have to know his secret. If only I could shag like that now, let alone in 50 years' time!"

The two old pensioners have by this time recovered and dressed themselves. Plucking up courage, the man approaches the pensioner.

He says, "Sir, in all my life I have never seen anybody shag like that, particularly at your age. What's your secret? Could you shag like that 50 years ago?"

The pensioner replies, "Son, 50 years ago, that fucking fence wasn't electrified."

319 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:51:08am

Bill Clinton is visiting a school. In one class, he asks the students if anyone can give him an example of a "tragedy." One little boy stands up and offers that, "If my best friend who lives next door is playing in the street when a car came by and killed him, that would be a tragedy."

"No," Clinton says, "That would be an ACCIDENT."

A girl raises her hand. "If a school bus carrying fifty children drove off a cliff, killing everyone inside...that would be a tragedy."

"I'm afraid not," explains Clinton. "That is what we would call a GREAT LOSS."

The room is silent; none of the other children dare volunteer.

"What?" asks Clinton, "Isn't there anyone here who can give me an example of a tragedy?"

Finally a boy in the back raises his hand. In a timid voice, he says: "If an airplane carrying Bill and Hillary Clinton was blown up by a bomb, *that* would be a tragedy."

"Wonderful!" Clinton beams. "Marvelous! And can you tell me WHY that would be a tragedy?"

"Well," says the boy, "because it wouldn't be an accident, and it certainly would be no great loss!"

320 Spiritualized  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:56:50am
What won't be known for some time is whether Obama will benefit politically.

Just ran that sentence through my anti-bullshit filter:

"My pathetic, sycophantic news organisation will do everything in its power to ensure that he does benefit politically, in fact, over the next month you'll come to believe that Obama performed the rescue himself with Michelle at his side."

321 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:59:56am

re: #320 Spiritualized

Just ran that sentence through my anti-bullshit filter:

"My pathetic, sycophantic news organisation will do everything in its power to ensure that he does benefit politically, in fact, over the next month you'll come to believe that Obama performed the rescue himself with Michelle at his side."

I hear that 0bama walked across the water and plugged the three pirates himself.

/

322 Spiritualized  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 1:59:59am

Bill Clinton jokes write themselves:

You dirty dog! What Claire Sweeney made of U.S. President Bill Clinton's chat up lines

The 37-year-old asked him: 'You don't want to go, do you?

'He said "How can you tell?"

'I said "Because your left leg is dancing".'

To which 62-year-old Clinton is alleged to have responded: 'My middle leg will be dancing soon!'

Sweeney, who played Roxie Hart in the musical Chicago, joked: 'I shook his hand but decided I was going home with a clean dress that night!'

323 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:00:11am

Good morning, afternoon, evening, *everyone*!™ and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CHARLES!

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

324 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:00:57am

re: #320 Spiritualized
Haven't you heard ? the USS Bainbridge is to be renamed the USS Barak.

/Wouldn't put it past him.

325 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:01:46am

Morning littleoldlady! How was your weekend?

326 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:02:17am

re: #323 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening, *everyone*!™ and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CHARLES!

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

{lol} Thanks.

Happy Birthday Charles. I hope you like you presents. :)

327 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:02:18am

Fenway! :-)

Passover: Day 5

:-/

328 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:02:43am

re: #323 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening, *everyone*!™ and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CHARLES!

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thank you {lol}

329 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:02:43am

There was a boy standing on a corner selling fish.

He was saying, "Dam fish for sale, dam fish for sale."

A preacher walked up and asked why he was calling them dam fish.

The kid said, "I caught them at the dam, so they're dam fish."

The preacher bought some, took them home and asked his wife to cook the dam fish.

His wife looked at him in bewilderment and said, "Preachers aren't supposed to talk like that."

The preacher explained why they were dam fish, and she agreed to cook them. When dinner was ready and everyone was sitting down, the preacher asked his son to pass him the dam fish.

His son replied, "That's the spirit dad. Pass the fucking potatoes!"

330 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:03:13am

re: #323 littleoldlady
Hey , I delurked just in time for Fruitcup !

Who said the Japanese invented that ;Just In Time' Crap ?

331 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:05:27am

re: #315 rhino2

Well the headline "Obama Scores Victory at Sea" is bullshit. America's armed forces scored that victory, Obama just did the job he was elected to do by giving them the go-ahead. I am not an ODS hater, but looking after Americans and American interests is his job. In this case, he did his fucking job right, but I am not going to fellate him for it. It's what he was hired to do.

When I was a janitor, one of my responsibilities was to clean bathrooms. That was the job I agreed to do, and was expected to do by my employer and my employer's clients. No one ever printed a headline like "Amalgamated Janitorial Ltd. Scores Victory in the Lavatory" after I scrubbed a toilet.

332 Strike Hornet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:05:35am

re: #175 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm going to dig out my SEAL t-shirt and wear it tomorrow. "Peace Through Superior Firepower", "Seal Team Eight".

Looking at your link now.

I'm wearing my SEAL Team I shirt right now... :)

333 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:05:53am

Erik! :-)

Sharmuta! :-)

Pass The Moonbaticide!

Finally got it right, did you? ;-)

334 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:07:23am

re: #331 Slumbering Behemoth

Amalgamated Janitorial Ltd. Scores Victory in the Lavatory

LMAO!

335 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:08:36am

The CIA had an opening for an assassin. After all of the background checks, interviews, and testing were done there were three finalists: two men and one woman. For the final test, the CIA agents took one of the men to a large metal door and handed him a gun.

"We must know that you will follow your instructions, no matter what the circumstances. Inside this room you will find your wife sitting in a chair. You have to kill her."

The first man said, "You can't be serious. I could never shoot my wife."

The agent replies, "Then you're not the right man for this job."

The second man was given the same instructions. He took the gun and went into the room. All was quiet for about five minutes. Then the agent came out with tears in his eyes. "I tried, but I can't kill my wife."

The agent replies, "You don't have what it takes. Take your wife and go home."

Finally, it was the woman's turn. Only she was told to kill her husband. She took the gun and went into the room. Shots were heard, one shot after another. They heard screaming, crashing, banging on the walls. After a few minutes, all was quiet. The door opened slowly and there stood the woman. She wiped the sweat from her brow and said, "You guys didn't tell me the gun was loaded with blanks. I had to beat him to death with the chair."

336 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:09:36am

re: #333 littleoldlady
Looks like the seame set they filmed 'Dancing in the Rain' on !
/At night and with a Firehose out, of course !

337 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:11:48am

A girl asks her boyfriend to come over Friday night and have dinner with her parents. This being a big event, the girl tells her boyfriend that after dinner, she would like to go out and "do it" for the first time. Well, the boy is ecstatic, but he has never done it before, so he takes a trip to the pharmacist to get some protection. The pharmacist helps the boy for about an hour. He tells the boy everything there is to know about protection and doing it. At the register, the pharmacist asks the boy how many he'd like to buy; a 3-pack, a 10-pack, or a family pack. The boy insists on the family pack because he thinks he will be very busy, it being his first time and all.

That night, the boy shows up at the girl's parent's house and meets his girlfriend at the door. "Oh I'm so excited for you to meet my parents, come on in." The boy goes inside and is taken to the dinner table where the girl's parents are seated. The boy quickly offers to say grace and bows his head. A minute passes, and the boy still deep in prayer with his head down. Ten minutes pass and still no movement from the boy. Finally, after 20 minutes with his head down, the girlfriend leans over and whispers to her boyfriend, "I had no idea you were so religious." The boy turns and whispers back, "I had no idea your father was a pharmacist."

338 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:11:54am

re: #331 Slumbering Behemoth

Love it!

Or when I was waiting tables at a pizza place....no banner Leaning Tower Of Pizza Scores Decisive Victory at Table 26.

Jeez....I'm sure lizards can come up with more than one example of their own.

339 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:12:38am

re: #316 Karridine

Brother, I have been. I know the fix is at the last bit, counting four either way. What I am still pondering is the initial count where you end up on "The City", even if you go beyond the bounds of the dictated "5-15" count.

//keep in mind that I am both intoxicated, and suck hard at math

340 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:15:50am

re: #336 Pass The Moonbaticide

Bells Are Ringing

/Judy Holliday - one of the all time GREATS! :-)

341 tappin52  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:16:07am

Thanks for the fruit, LoL. By the way, I made your recipe for taco dip to take to my son's home for Easter dinner and it was a big hit. All gone. A keeper for sure.

342 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:16:26am

re: #339 Slumbering Behemoth
You can't be intoxicated ... There isn't a single spellung mistuk.

343 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:16:30am

KARRIDINE! :-)

SO GLAD you checked in!

/worried about you...

344 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:17:35am

re: #341 tappin52

tappin! :-)

OH, that's great!

/I guess I can send to to the LGF cookbook, now that it passed the remote taste test. ;-)

345 TheMatrix31  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:18:05am

re: #323 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening, *everyone*!™ and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CHARLES!

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Good morning, Littleoldlady!

Also my brother's birthday!

346 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:18:25am

re: #338 Fenway_Nation

Jeez....I'm sure lizards can come up with more than one example of their own.

Liquor clerk scores decisive victory against drunks- refuses sale to Behemoth.

347 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:18:31am

re: #342 Pass The Moonbaticide

Eye tipe harderer wen Iz drunc!
/

348 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:18:51am

re: #343 littleoldlady
He's keeping his head down ... He's a Creationalist Bah'ai.

/Does such a thing even exist ?

349 tappin52  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:19:19am

As far as President Obama's performance with regard to the Somali pirates is concerned, he used his SOP of delegating the job to be done. He just happened to delegate it to the right group of folks.

350 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:20:04am

re: #347 Slumbering Behemoth
To mutch sex maks me spel badley.

351 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:20:30am

re: #339 Slumbering Behemoth

I'll work out a way to EXPLAIN it to you, and post tomorrow or later, when you're of sober mind and sane outlook...

Enjoy the inebriation, Slum...

352 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:21:24am

re: #346 Sharmuta

Oh snap!

I hang my head in shame, as I have no quick comeback.
/sad

353 tappin52  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:21:28am

re: #350 Pass The MoonbaticideTwo much fude maxe me phat.

354 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:22:00am

re: #343 littleoldlady

Well, Howdy Do, to you Too... there's only 17 of my Comments upthread...

:D

/we're safe, Thailand is engaged in a rather large power struggle...

355 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:22:33am

Matrix! :-)

Happy Birthday to your brother, too! :-)

356 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:23:14am

re: #354 Karridine

I haven't thrown the coffee into my eyes yet...

/gimme time... ;-)

357 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:23:44am

re: #348 Pass The Moonbaticide


He's keeping his head down ... He's a Creationalist Baha'i.

/Does such a thing even exist?

Uhm, no... an oxymoron of sorts, but sure set ME to laughing! :D

358 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:24:15am

re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth

Just yell at the bouncer to kick me out and tell me to go see Madonna. ;p

359 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:24:26am

re: #356 littleoldlady

Ahh coffee, how I miss thee. Gotta get a new coffemaker one of these days, last one went with a roommate whose no longer here.

/They're cheap I know, just haven't got around to it....

360 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:24:32am

Talkin' heads on Thai TV... Army Bigshot AND civilian... "solve the problem and restore democracy..."

361 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:24:52am

re: #354 Karridine
Out of interest, is YouTube still blocked to Thai users by your Government, or has that ban been lifted now ?

362 tappin52  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:25:30am

re: #360 Karridine

Well, that sounds like an easy plan.

363 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:25:31am

re: #358 Sharmuta

That reminds me! SB: You catch that video I linked last night with Ari Shaffir telling off a heckler?

364 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:25:49am

re: #361 Pass The Moonbaticide

No. Opened up over a year ago.

There's a LOT of access to independent news sources nowadays...

365 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:25:52am

re: #359 rhino2

rhino2! :-)

How are you existing?!

/obviously, not addicted

366 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:26:10am

re: #351 Karridine

I know I can be a dope, but did you have to call me this?


Enjoy the inebriation, Slum...

Kinda hurts my feelings.
/

Just kidding. Glad to hear you and yours are doing okay, wish y'all were doing better. Keep us posted.

367 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:26:55am

re: #362 tappin52

Why, yes. Yes it is. Just a moment, I'll reach into my pocket and grab a handful of democracy... hunh?

368 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:27:52am

re: #346 Sharmuta

Lizards Score Decisive Vitory in Open Thread; Feast on Gamey Troll Buttocks.

/Cue spinning newspaper montage....

369 tappin52  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:28:31am

re: #367 Karridine

That "solve the problem" part needs a little fleshing out with a few details.

370 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:28:39am

re: #366 Slumbering Behemoth

Reachin' for a SHORT nic, s'all... "bering Behe" is back in the realm of long...

SB will do, respeckfully, Sirrah!

371 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:28:53am

re: #365 littleoldlady

I took to buying coffee flavored energy drinks, quicker solution, not as good.

372 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:29:02am

re: #364 Karridine
What about 'The King and I' ?
Is that still forbidden ?

373 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:29:14am

re: #369 tappin52

That "solve the problem" part needs a little fleshing out with a few details.

Oh, you noticed, didja?

Shhhhhh,,,,

374 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:29:17am

re: #358 Sharmuta

Gak! Way to screw up a girl on girl fantasy, Sharm.
/

375 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:29:50am

re: #372 Pass The Moonbaticide

As far as I know, yes.

And rightfully so.

376 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:30:29am

re: #368 Fenway_Nation
Troll Fruitcup ... Mmmm.
LittleOldLady, get working on a recipe stat !

377 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:30:46am

Well, 2 more minitz for Q & A, then I've gotta run...

378 TheMatrix31  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:32:08am

re: #355 littleoldlady

Matrix! :-)

Happy Birthday to your brother, too! :-)

Thanks! He's an old man now!

/31 ;)

379 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:32:25am

re: #377 Karridine
No further questions at this time.
But surrender your passport and don't leave town.

380 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:33:36am

re: #379 Pass The Moonbaticide

AwwwK!

no way, Jose!

Updates if any come true...

381 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:34:30am

re: #370 Karridine

No sweat, just finding a point to tease about. No real offense taken here.

382 tappin52  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:34:44am

I didn't know today was Charles' birthday. Maybe we should throw him a surprise party.

383 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:35:32am

re: #368 Fenway_Nation

Lizards Score Decisive Vitory in Open Thread; Feast on Gamey Troll Buttocks.

/Cue spinning newspaper montage....

What about the inverse?

Jihadis score stunning defeat- shocked to find themselves in hell with raisins.

384 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:36:09am

re: #383 Sharmuta

LOL +1

385 tappin52  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:36:22am

re: #383 Sharmuta

LOL.

386 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:40:08am

re: #383 Sharmuta

That post demands I link this classic:

Hijackers Surprised To Find Selves In Hell
'We Expected Eternal Paradise For This,' Say Suicide Bombers

387 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:43:02am

re: #386 Slumbering Behemoth

388 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:43:56am

re: #387 rhino2

Not sure what happened there, anyway, said "Love the Onion".

389 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:44:18am

re: #382 tappin52

What do you get for the lizard overlord who has everything...?

390 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:45:17am

WH Puppy scores decisive victory for Lizards- tinkles on NYT.

391 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:47:26am

re: #388 rhino2

"The day after that, they'll be sodomized by the Fallen and their bowels shredded by a demonic ejaculate of burning sand."

I wish I could write like that.

392 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:47:33am

re: #390 Sharmuta

WH Puppy scores decisive victory for Lizards- tinkles on NYT.


'See...? We do still serve a purpose in the digital age' Pinch Sulzburger said when asked for comment.

393 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:48:06am

re: #386 Slumbering Behemoth

Or the ever-popular Aloha Snackbar?
(MP3.... download and share with jihadis or friends)

394 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:48:47am

re: #389 Fenway_Nation

What do you get for the lizard overlord who has everything...?

Massive doses of antibiotics, IV?

395 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:48:55am

re: #393 Karridine

Or friendly jihadis?

/

396 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:52:07am

New Bumper Sticker.

Cuba got "CHANGE" in 1959
Be careful what you wish for

397 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:54:41am

re: #393 Karridine

Dark, funny, and a bit reminiscent of Dr. Demento.

It's three kinds of fucked up, but in a good way.

398 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:56:35am

re: #391 Slumbering Behemoth

a demonic ejaculate of burning sand

Could be a LGF rotating title, in an alternate universe.

399 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:58:18am

Women score decisive victory- chocolate deemed health food.

400 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 2:59:29am

re: #399 Sharmuta

Women score decisive victory- chocolate deemed health food.

Hey that's sexist. Men also love chocolate////

401 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:00:18am

re: #400 Erik The Red

Hey that's sexist. Men also love chocolate////

Have you ever tried to come between a woman and her chocolate?

402 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:00:54am

re: #401 Sharmuta

I usually try not to come between women and anything they want.

403 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:01:41am

re: #401 Sharmuta

Have you ever tried to come between a woman and her chocolate?

I live with 3 girls. I may be dumb but I am not stupid.

404 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:02:40am

re: #401 Sharmuta

My cousin's husband once told me matter-of-factly that his wife loved chocolate more than she loved him.

/smartest man I ever met

;-)

405 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:02:47am

re: #323 littleoldlady

SHIT! I missed fruitcup! WhatamIgonnado?! WhatamIgonnado!?

406 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:03:01am

re: #402 rhino2

You are very wise.

407 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:05:52am

re: #405 Slumbering Behemoth

Slumbering! :-)

That hamster's treat is chocolate, isn't it?

/don't worry
//plenty of fruitcup for YOU!

408 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:06:31am

re: #402 rhino2

I see a logistical problem here.
/Semantics.

409 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:08:05am

re: #323 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening, *everyone*!™ and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CHARLES!

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

littleoldlady! ;)

Iirc, you were a fan of my stories about my ex-wife Jabba the Slutt (aka Jezebel) and her current husband, who also happens to be my traitorous and creepy brother "Judas."
It just happens that these two world class hypocrites are squarely in the sights of a well-known media personality with a very popular daytime talk show. The producers were fascinated by the possibility of juxtaposing Judas and Jezebel's breathtakingly scandalous history with their current status as high profile religious wackos and public moralizers. Among their current causes are young earth cretinism creationism and the abolition of the public schools. Their past is unknown to their current associates, of course, but that will change in dramatic fashion if this pans out.

410 Crux Australis  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:08:15am

Don't tell me that FOX is going to cancel Terminator : The Sarah Connor Chronicles and Dollhouse.

Sci-Fi fans are poorly served by Network Television.

411 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:09:05am

re: #407 littleoldlady

Oh, that hurt my brain. G'nite {LoL}.

G'nite Lizards.

412 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:10:40am

re: #409 Shiplord Kirel

littleoldlady! ;)

Iirc, you were a fan of my stories about my ex-wife Jabba the Slutt (aka Jezebel) and her current husband, who also happens to be my traitorous and creepy brother "Judas."
It just happens that these two world class hypocrites are squarely in the sights of a well-known media personality with a very popular daytime talk show. The producers were fascinated by the possibility of juxtaposing Judas and Jezebel's breathtakingly scandalous history with their current status as high profile religious wackos and public moralizers. Among their current causes are young earth cretinism creationism and the abolition of the public schools. Their past is unknown to their current associates, of course, but that will change in dramatic fashion if this pans out.

You just made me a nosy fan. Do tell more. :)

413 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:11:32am

re: #409 Shiplord Kirel

Shiplord! :-)

OHHHH MY! You certainly could make some mischief there. ;-)

/you just CAN'T make this stuff UP!

Jabba the Slut! LOL! Someday I'm going to get the chance to use that in RealLife...

414 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:12:12am

re: #411 Slumbering Behemoth

'Night, Slumbering! :-)

/sorry. it's Passover and i don't feel like suffering alone...

415 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:12:20am

re: #410 Crux Australis

Never got into the Terminator show much, but I'm looking forward to the new movie coming out.
Looks good!

416 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:12:43am

re: #411 Slumbering Behemoth

Sleep well, SB!

417 tappin52  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:14:40am

re: #389 Fenway_Nation

Nothing?

418 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:18:49am

re: #389 Fenway_Nation

A $20 gift certificate to Pizza Joe's?

/only ep of Moral Orel I ever watched

419 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:22:26am

Psst! email Sharmuta!

420 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:32:55am

Good Morning LGF.
So now the pirates are threatening to hunt down and kill Americans on the high seas.
Obviously the pirates all need killing.
And the rhetoric almost sounds like it's getting political./
Oh well, let the lib handwringing and second guessing begin.

Or maybe instead it's time for the MSM to report the fact that the piracy is today carried out mostly by anti-Western Muslims in the waters off jizya-seeking Muslim countries. Yes, that's right, I am suggesting that piracy is permitted against non-Muslims by Islamofascism.

"Simple out-of-work local fishermen" my ass.

421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:37:35am

*Pop!*
Dead Pirate
*Pop!*
Dead Pirate
*Pop!*
Dead Pirate

HA!

422 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:39:21am

re: #421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

*Pop!*

Wounded pirate ready for water boarding.

423 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:39:33am

re: #412 Erik The Red

You just made me a nosy fan. Do tell more. :)

Here ya' go.

424 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:41:15am

re: #397 Slumbering Behemoth

Dark, funny, and a bit reminiscent of Dr. Demento.

It's three kinds of fucked up, but in a good way.

YOU listened to Dr Demento?

Yeah, I guess him and Woofman Jack shaped my younger self... so I did Aloha Snackbar about 4 years ago now... been continuing requests for it...

425 rhino2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:42:25am

re: #420 Spare O'Lake

Been that way for hundreds of years now.

From the article (posted earlier):

Together they (John Adams and Thomas Jefferson --ed) called upon Ambassador Abdrahaman, the envoy of Tripoli in London, in March 1786. This dignitary mentioned a tariff of three payments--for the ransom of slaves and hostages, for cheap terms of temporary peace and for more costly terms of "perpetual peace." He did not forget to add his own commission as a percentage. Adams and Jefferson asked to know by what right he was exacting these levies. The U.S. had never menaced or quarreled with any of the Muslim powers. As Jefferson later reported to the State Department and Congress, "The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners."


We dealt with it right the first time, lets see about the second.

426 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:44:46am

re: #423 Shiplord Kirel

Here ya' go.

Very sad story. But great story telling.

427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:44:56am

re: #31 Karridine

Thanks for updating... I've been worried about you since folks were talking about you last night.

428 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:45:47am

re: #424 Karridine

YOU listened to Dr Demento?

Yeah, I guess him and Woofman Jack shaped my younger self... so I did Aloha Snackbar about 4 years ago now... been continuing requests for it...

Here's one they used to play on the Wolfman's TV show.

429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:49:42am

re: #410 Crux Australis

It's about money. Not enough viewers? Show gets canceled.

Advertising on the show does not convert to dollars for the advertiser? Show gets canceled.

Pretty simple really.

430 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:49:50am

re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, the Big C (supermarket chain) one kilometer from me was closed down just now due to Red Shirts occupying the top floor... THIS CHANGES THINGS, FBV...

431 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:51:10am

re: #430 Karridine

'gasp'...NOT THE PRODUCE!

432 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:54:50am

re: #428 Spare O'Lake

CREEDENCE? "Midnite Special" ?

well, m'kay...

433 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:55:37am

re: #431 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes, the dreaded 'Red-Shirt Shutdown in Aisle 3'

434 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:57:18am
435 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 3:59:56am

re: #433 Karridine

When you can keep your wits about you when all others are losing theirs...-
-Kipling...

436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:00:45am

re: #434 Erik The Red

You calling us fat?

437 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:05:59am

re: #436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You calling us fat?

Calling myself fat also. 5'11" and weigh 230 pounds. :)

438 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:21:16am

Coulter has good reflexes.

439 ArmyWife  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:24:10am

Good morning, guys. It's been nice being home this weekend with all the chaos and pandemonium that is my family.

I am so glad we did the right thing with the Somalis. Excellent work, Snipers, and yes, Pres. Obama, good job to you for actually getting to the right place, albeit a might slow.

OK, I'm back to scrubbing the house top to bottom for the real estate agents that will be arriving Tuesday night. My poor husband had no idea what went in to this kind of thing - that in itself is funny. "How do you do this? Keep the house clean, have no laundry anywhere AND make dinner?" he says. Years of practice, baby. Years.

440 ArmyWife  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:24:57am

re: #430 Karridine

Hey! I'm glad to see you, I was thinking about you reading the news. My prayers are with you more than ever right now!

441 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:28:14am

Terrible incident just now, 80 metres from home... a marauding gang of 12 yellow-shirt supporters picked a fight with 4 youth, attacking with machetes...

Separated one 18 year old, beaned him with a brick and hit him several blows with machetes... when he was down, much kicking while some tried to tie him to a car to drag him...

bystanders screamed that police were coming, freaked the punk-thugs out, they run away ...

crowd applies first aid to badly mangled youth as ambulance comes...

sons shaken, safe at home... they could NOT have defended themselves against 5 teens with machetes...

442 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:28:21am

re: #432 Karridine

CREEDENCE? "Midnite Special" ?

well, m'kay...

Yup, the Wolfman was the announcer on The Midnite Special show in the seventies, and they generally used the CCR version of the song as the the theme, IIRC.

443 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:29:04am

re: #441 Karridine

Terrible incident just now, 80 metres from home... a marauding gang of 12 yellow-shirt supporters picked a fight with 4 youth, attacking with machetes...

Separated one 18 year old, beaned him with a brick and hit him several blows with machetes... when he was down, much kicking while some tried to tie him to a car to drag him...

bystanders screamed that police were coming, freaked the punk-thugs out, they run away ...

crowd applies first aid to badly mangled youth as ambulance comes...

sons shaken, safe at home... they could NOT have defended themselves against 5 teens with machetes...

Today?!

444 quickjustice  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:29:09am

Happy Birthday, Charles!

445 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:29:22am

re: #443 MandyManners

12 minutes ago!

446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:29:35am

re: #441 Karridine

Gather them in... You're in our thoughts and prayers.

447 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:31:07am

re: #441 Karridine

Terrible incident just now, 80 metres from home... a marauding gang of 12 yellow-shirt supporters picked a fight with 4 youth, attacking with machetes...

Separated one 18 year old, beaned him with a brick and hit him several blows with machetes... when he was down, much kicking while some tried to tie him to a car to drag him...

bystanders screamed that police were coming, freaked the punk-thugs out, they run away ...

crowd applies first aid to badly mangled youth as ambulance comes...

sons shaken, safe at home... they could NOT have defended themselves against 5 teens with machetes...

Holy Shit!
Stay safe.

448 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:31:21am

re: #441 Karridine

Terrible incident just now, 80 metres from home... a marauding gang of 12 yellow-shirt supporters picked a fight with 4 youth, attacking with machetes...

Separated one 18 year old, beaned him with a brick and hit him several blows with machetes... when he was down, much kicking while some tried to tie him to a car to drag him...

bystanders screamed that police were coming, freaked the punk-thugs out, they run away ...

crowd applies first aid to badly mangled youth as ambulance comes...

sons shaken, safe at home... they could NOT have defended themselves against 5 teens with machetes...

Karridine I don't know your whole life story. But from what I have read over the last few months here, why don't you get the hell out and return to the US?

449 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:31:48am

re: #447 Spare O'Lake

Roger THAT!

Sons shaken, neighbors shaken...

450 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:34:26am

re: #424 Karridine

YOU listened to Dr Demento?

Yeah, I guess him and Woofman Jack shaped my younger self... so I did Aloha Snackbar about 4 years ago now... been continuing requests for it...

Clap for him!


451 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:35:20am

Its hitting my youngest now... if he had to choose LIFE or 'help brother'... he's in tears at the thought of running from helping his brother when there's NO WAY he could possibly help...

452 3 wood  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:35:26am

Good morning.

The futures are down fractionally at the moment, so look for the market to open downward.

Life for short sellers is getting tougher:
How to avoid a short squeeze
As stocks rally and feds circle, short sellers face tough calls

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Short sellers are being ambushed from all sides, from tighter regulations to double-digit stock gains. But there are ways to get out of the jungle alive.
Selling stocks short, which worked well as the market plunged to its bear-market lows, came back to bite practitioners as the broad market staged a swift, double-digit rally over the last month.
A watchful eye on contrarian indicators, heavily shorted stocks and safe-haven investment flows -- plus an ear for market sentiment -- can help investors determine when it's time to get out of, or back into, a short-selling strategy.
"You want to look for extremes," said Paul Brigandi, vice president of trading at Direxion Funds, which runs $5 billion in exchange-traded and mutual funds, including leveraged short funds such as Direxion Financial Bear 3X Shares

Prat of the mechanics of short selling, is when you borrow the shares from your broker to do this kind of deal, more times than not the broker in turn borrows the shares from some other client's portfolio. That's right, they borrow the stock of unsuspecting clients to do a deal that if it works will damage the value of that other client's stock.

So if you think about it, that broker is using the property of one client to make a commission in a trade that will likely damage the value of that client's portfolio.

I think one needed change to the regulations is, before my broker can borrow my stick to loan to someone else for a short sale deal, they have to get my permission each time. That, or the stock borrowed has to be in the inventory of the broker proper and not the stock of some client.

Watch and see how eager the brokers are to do short sale deals when it's their own stock value that will get damaged.

453 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:36:29am

re: #448 Erik The Red

Roger that!

454 rightside  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:37:20am

Morning Lizards.

455 3 wood  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:37:27am

Got to get ready for work.

Later.

456 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:39:24am

re: #452 3 wood

I think one needed change to the regulations is, before my broker can borrow my stick to loan to someone else for a short sale deal, they have to get my permission each time.

Why would anyone knowingly give their permission unles they got a cut of the action on the trade or some other compensation?

457 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:39:26am

I promised my wife I going to clean the house today. She's at work. I am off. Seems fair.

Still sitting here on my fat arse.

458 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:41:30am

re: #457 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I promised my wife I going to clean the house today. She's at work. I am off. Seems fair.

Still sitting here on my fat arse.

Relax. IIRC it only takes us guys an hour at the most to clean a house./

459 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:41:35am

re: #445 Karridine

12 minutes ago!

Eighty metres? That's not even a football field away!

460 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:42:11am

re: #451 Karridine

Its hitting my youngest now... if he had to choose LIFE or 'help brother'... he's in tears at the thought of running from helping his brother when there's NO WAY he could possibly help...

Can you leave?

461 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:45:55am

Gotta go slay a dragon, tilt at a windmill and aggravate a few folks.
BBL.

462 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:47:36am

re: #444 quickjustice

Happy Birthday, Charles!

Really?

463 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:48:20am

re: #461 Spare O'Lake

Gotta go slay a dragon, tilt at a windmill and aggravate a few folks.
BBL.

Hand out some atomic wedgies!

464 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:50:32am

re: #462 MandyManners

Really?

Yes. Today.

465 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:52:52am

re: #451 Karridine

Its hitting my youngest now... if he had to choose LIFE or 'help brother'... he's in tears at the thought of running from helping his brother when there's NO WAY he could possibly help...

You and your family have my prayers!

466 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:53:59am

re: #460 MandyManners

No. My family and life is here right now, and I've no funds to leave, Mandy

467 quickjustice  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:54:22am

Just listened to the NPR version of events in Thailand. The reporter on the ground said "It's no big deal."

468 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:55:10am

BBIAW...

evening chores here in dusk, suburban and (thank God!) now-quiet Bangkok

469 quickjustice  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:55:20am

re: #462 MandyManners

You didn't know? You're a LGF veteran!

470 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:55:54am

re: #464 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes. Today.

I looked on his Wiki page but found nothing.

471 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:56:33am

re: #466 Karridine

No. My family and life is here right now, and I've no funds to leave, Mandy

I was talking about your family, too. If thing go from bad to worse, can you get to the embassy?

472 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:57:11am

re: #469 quickjustice

You didn't know? You're a LGF veteran!

Sometimes my brain gets so stuffed that some things fall out.

473 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:57:23am

re: #422 Erik The Red

*Pop!*

Wounded pirate ready for water boarding.

We don't do that anymore. We're not cowboys!

474 Perry  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:58:10am

re: #467 quickjustice

No biggie he says? Is that like minor surgery (when it happens to someone else) vs. major surgery (anything that happens to dear old self).


Prayers for Karridine & family....

475 quickjustice  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 4:58:11am

Great overview on Strategypage about the pirates in Somalia:

[Link: www.strategypage.com...]

476 quickjustice  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:00:24am

re: #474 Perry

It's kinda like 9/11. As a New Yorker, that day will be with me forever, because NYC was the epicenter. People from other places, while sympathetic and kind, never will grasp the enormity of having been in the middle of it.

477 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:00:45am

re: #470 MandyManners

I looked on his Wiki page but found nothing.

reine & vxbush sent out an email a few weeks ago, re the 13th being Charles' b'day. Special conspiracy, re hitting the t.j. for him today.

478 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:01:21am

re: #472 MandyManners

Sometimes my brain gets so stuffed that some things fall out.

Do we still tie a chain around their ankles and drag them behind a boat at 25 knots?

479 quickjustice  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:02:48am

Keelhauling-- tying a mutinous sailor to the keel, and letting the barnacles cut him up as he's dragged through the water. Ugh.

480 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:04:09am

re: #478 Erik The Red

I love it when people respond to the wrong posts!

481 Perry  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:04:23am

re: #476 quickjustice

I'm sure I couldn't have dealt with it, and I'm nowhere near there. I will never forget that whole time in my life and its ripples.

Karridine's son just had a moment like 9/11. Prayers and more prayers.

482 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:04:34am

re: #479 quickjustice

Think even Washington did that.

483 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:05:41am

Today is the Cub's opener.

484 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:05:42am

Good morning all. Report on the radio this morning that the Justice Department is opening an investigation to gather evidence against the captured pirate. You wonder , what more could they need?

485 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:07:31am

LOL.
PIMF
Post #473

486 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:07:59am

re: #483 midwestgak

Today is the Cub's opener.


Weather forecast is freezing rain , mixed with flurries.

487 soxfan4life  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:08:53am

Now it seems the pirates are vowing retaliation. Got to wonder how President Milquetoast will deal with it.

[Link: www.comcast.net...]

488 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:09:04am

re: #484 opnion

Good morning all. Report on the radio this morning that the Justice Department is opening an investigation to gather evidence against the captured pirate. You wonder , what more could they need?

Lawyers dotting I's, crossing T's, counting nits, picking ... uh ... ur ... um ... (y'think maybe I just outta leave it at that?)

489 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:09:21am

re: #484 opnion

Good morning all. Report on the radio this morning that the Justice Department is opening an investigation to gather evidence against the captured pirate. You wonder , what more could they need?

Maybe quite a bit for a court of law. If this will be tried as piracy in a court of law, the prosecution needs all its T's dotted and I's crossed.

490 soxfan4life  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:09:32am

re: #486 opnion

Baseball weather for sure.

491 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:10:09am

re: #488 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hey, baby. Enjoy the mind meld as much as I? Wanna' smoke?

492 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:12:31am

re: #488 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #489 MandyManners

They could actually turn the captured pirate over to Kenya who also has a claim to jurisdiction. I understand that he could get the death penalty there, so he is better off being tried by us.

493 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:14:21am

re: #490 soxfan4life

Baseball weather for sure.

Oh yeah. The Cubs have built a restaurant with an open air beer garden, outside of the Main Gate.
Say what? Wrigley Field is an open air beer garden.

494 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:15:26am

re: #487 soxfan4life

Now it seems the pirates are vowing retaliation. Got to wonder how President Milquetoast will deal with it.

[Link: www.comcast.net...]

Fuck 'em. They finally pissed off the wrong nation, and I hope that we'll be the ones coming screaming down on them some more.


495 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:16:34am

re: #492 opnion

re: #489 MandyManners

They could actually turn the captured pirate over to Kenya who also has a claim to jurisdiction. I understand that he could get the death penalty there, so he is better off being tried by us.

The maximum here is life.

496 soxfan4life  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:16:50am

re: #493 opnion

Sox opened at home against Tampa Bay. Makes me ask the question every year, why does Tampa Bay play here or in NY before May, when both teams play them plenty, take advantage of the warm weather.

497 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:17:44am

re: #491 MandyManners

Hey, baby. Enjoy the mind meld as much as I? Wanna' smoke?

Come to think of it (after closing out that comment) ... I could have mentioned lawyers "counting nits, picking their knowses".

*grin* ... Buzz, at least, wouldn't hammer me for that.

498 smokefire  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:17:57am

re: #496 soxfan4life

Sox opened at home against Tampa Bay. Makes me ask the question every year, why does Tampa Bay play here or in NY before May, when both teams play them plenty, take advantage of the warm weather.

...............A Sox fan, Tampa plays in a Domed Stadium.

499 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:18:02am

re: #494 MandyManners

Fuck 'em. They finally pissed off the wrong nation, and I hope that we'll be the ones coming screaming down on them some more.


Illinois Congressman Kirk was interviewed on the radio this morning.
He is a Naval Reserve officer. He proposes anything more than 12 miles off shore from Somalia be boarded & if they resist sink em.

500 yesandno  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:18:17am

Happy Birthday Charles.....

501 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:18:49am

Like clockwork, the finches have returned to their nesting site - a little crevasse in between the stairs and the building. The cool wet weather does not deter them.

502 smokefire  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:19:27am

re: #499 opnion

I am all for unrestricted submarine warfare, myself.
Sink the mother ships on sight. Oh, yeah, no warning either.

503 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:20:10am

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CHARLES!

504 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:20:21am

re: #495 MandyManners

The maximum here is life.

Since the time of Thomas Jefferson.

505 Spiritualized  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:21:06am
506 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:21:07am

re: #496 soxfan4life

Sox opened at home against Tampa Bay. Makes me ask the question every year, why does Tampa Bay play here or in NY before May, when both teams play them plenty, take advantage of the warm weather.

bad planning.

507 soxfan4life  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:21:29am

re: #494 MandyManners

I agree, but do you really think 0bama feels that way. It took him almost a week to deal with this situation, the NK missile test showed what a stooge the guy is on foreign policy. If the pirates are vowing retaliation, we should be wreaking havoc on their hub cities time now.

508 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:22:26am

re: #502 smokefire

I am all for unrestricted submarine warfare, myself.
Sink the mother ships on sight. Oh, yeah, no warning either.

Take out tha land bases with the War Lords. They are threatening retaliation.

509 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:23:32am

Gotta' scoot.

510 Bloodnok  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:23:39am

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHARLES!

GOOD MORNING LIZARDS!

WHY AM I SHOUTING?!

511 yesandno  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:23:47am

To be honest, I think the attack on the pirates was predicated upon the fact that the FRENCH......yes, the FRENCH.....had the balls to do something about their own captives. After that, if America just continued to stall, it would have made Obama look worst.

(What do you mean the French took them out and the Americans are sitting there doing nothing? Sacre Bleau!)

512 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:24:10am

re: #503 MandyManners

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CHARLES!

(btw, did you notice my comment re "t.j." ? ... I did just that a bit ago.)

513 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:24:53am

re: #510 Bloodnok

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHARLES!

GOOD MORNING LIZARDS!

WHY AM I SHOUTING?!

HUH?!
I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER ALL THE SHOUTING!

514 soxfan4life  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:25:30am

re: #508 opnion


With all the hassle given to groups giving food aid to these African countries, how long until it all starts to stop. Sooner or later these people will no longer want to beat their head against the wall.

515 smokefire  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:26:44am

re: #508 opnion

Take out tha land bases with the War Lords. They are threatening retaliation.

..............Can't do that. Too much of a chance for "civilians" to get in the way. Anyone on those ships are NOT civilians, so it should be freefire zone.

516 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:26:55am

The Obama girls named their dog "Bo." Thier dad's initials?

517 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:28:24am

News from Thailand from the Daily Telegraph here in Sydney

Education Ministry building on fire

A BUILDING in Thailand's education ministry complex has been set ablaze after being hit by petrol bombs, a security guard said today, as anti-government protests raged in the capital.

Protesters also seized seven buses and set them on fire in front of the nearby United Nations building, sending flames shooting high into the sky, witnesses said.

“There were several bomb blasts at 5pm and suddenly the fire broke out,” security guard Pradap Wongdara said.

518 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:28:44am

re: #516 midwestgak

The Obama girls named their dog "Bo." Thier dad's initials?

Body Odour?

519 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:28:59am

re: #514 soxfan4life

With all the hassle given to groups giving food aid to these African countries, how long until it all starts to stop. Sooner or later these people will no longer want to beat their head against the wall.

This is the Horn of Africa. Kenya is one of the nations that make that up.
Kenya of course is the ancestral home of BHO Sr & BHO just loves Kenya.
He'll probably give them TARP money!

520 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:29:04am

re: #516 midwestgak

The Obama girls named their dog "Bo." Thier dad's initials?

There's a more classic definition of B.O.

521 soxfan4life  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:29:26am

re: #516 midwestgak

The Obama girls named their dog "Bo." Thier dad's initials?

FCBBHO?

522 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:29:57am

re: #518 Erik The Red

Body Odour?

(*grin* ... beat me to it!)

523 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:30:15am

re: #516 midwestgak

The Obama girls named their dog "Bo." Thier dad's initials?

Michelle's Fatjhers nickname was "Bo" , after Bo Didlley. That could be it.

524 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:35:41am

Sandra Cantu, an eight year little girl, killed by a sicko woman. Outrageous.

525 smokefire  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:36:34am

re: #523 opnion

There is only ONE.

526 Spider Mensch  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:38:34am

maybe Bo is short for BOHICA....for the non military here...its a term for getting assigned a shitty detail or volunteered for something not desirable..
"Bend Over Here It Comes Again"....it is apropos to the obama administrations future tax policies....

527 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:39:05am

Good morning, Lizards!

528 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:39:09am

re: #525 smokefire

There is only ONE.


They could have called the dog "Ayers"
Here Ayers , here ayers. Ayers, put the bomb down!

529 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:40:05am

Good Morning lizards!
And Happy Birthday Charles.

530 Rustler  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:41:22am

Speaking of the Obama dog which shelter carries Portugese water dogs?

531 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:42:13am

re: #530 Rustler

Speaking of the Obama dog which shelter carries Portugese water dogs?

I believe I read that they got it from Ted Kennedy. I don't think it is a shelter pup.

532 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:43:02am

{Charles}

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

/We'll have to see your nirth certificate to be sure that this really is your birthday...

533 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:43:27am

re: #527 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

BREAKFAST?!

MWAH!

534 FrogMarch  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:44:26am

re: #9 capitalist piglet


The Defense Department twice sought Mr. Obama’s permission to use force to rescue Captain Phillips,

...

good thing Obama finally gave that permission.

535 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:44:38am

re: #530 Rustler

Speaking of the Obama dog which shelter carries Portugese water dogs?

None, this whole thing was planned. The dog was bought , then returned to the breeder. As it happens it is realated to one of Teddy Kennedy's dogs. Riiiight

536 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:45:38am

re: #533 pre-Boomer Marine brat

BREAKFAST?!

MWAH!

Kittehs don't beg--they INSIST!

537 razorbacker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:46:03am

Struggling through the swamp, the atmosphere thick, fetid, humid. Hard to breathe, like some malevolent python crushing your chest you gasp for air. Each breath is foul-smelling, the insects a constant irritant with their stings and prickling of your skin. No one bite painful, exactly, but the cumulative effect a torment.

I tell you the truth, some days it is a blessed relief to awake with the tomcat sitting on my chest, nose to nose with me tickling my cheek with his whiskers waiting for someone to get up and get his breakfast.

538 Rustler  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:47:16am

Yeah I figured. I mean most people don't leave there $2-5000 dogs free to get lost and taken to the shelter.

539 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:47:30am

re: #537 razorbacker

Ah, life wif kittehs.......

540 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:47:37am

re: #537 razorbacker

Struggling through the swamp, the atmosphere thick, fetid, humid. Hard to breathe, like some malevolent python crushing your chest you gasp for air. Each breath is foul-smelling, the insects a constant irritant with their stings and prickling of your skin. No one bite painful, exactly, but the cumulative effect a torment.

I tell you the truth, some days it is a blessed relief to awake with the tomcat sitting on my chest, nose to nose with me tickling my cheek with his whiskers waiting for someone to get up and get his breakfast.

He know, he knows...

541 Last Mohican  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:48:36am

re: #9 capitalist piglet

I just read the NYT article. I'm going to quote that paragraph that you quoted again:

The Defense Department twice sought Mr. Obama’s permission to use force to rescue Captain Phillips, most recently on Friday night, senior defense officials said. On Saturday morning, the president agreed, they said, if it appeared that the captain’s life was in imminent danger.

This would seem to imply that Obama had actively refused to allow the use of force prior to Saturday morning, even if Captain Phillips' life was in imminent danger (which, of course, it was, from the very beginning of the pirate attack). Or maybe he didn't actively refused, maybe he just sort of voted "present" and was too scared to make a decision until Saturday. Either way, I guess that might explain why the Navy didn't neutralize the pirates on the boat the first time Phillips jumped overboard.

Again, I don't want try to make this a story about Obama. It really isn't, and I don't believe in turning everything into an attack on him. This is a story about some violent criminals, a very brave commercial captain and crew, and some highly skilled sailors who saved an innocent life by doing their job well.

However, the NYT article makes it appear that anyone who's trying to turn this into a victory for Obama, or an example of his leadership skills (the Kos Kids, for example), is getting it all wrong. The NYT article would seem to imply that Obama screwed this up pretty badly, risking Captain Phillips' life for no reason, before he relented and allowed the use of force.

542 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:49:08am

re: #536 goddessoftheclassroom

Kittehs don't beg--they INSIST!

*yawn*

543 Rustler  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:49:12am

The question was more facetious than serious since when he promised to get them the dog he made a big show about claiming he would rescue one from the shelter.

544 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:52:08am

re: #542 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*yawn*

Give the kitteh some time...

545 Rustler  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:52:34am

I also love teh research he put into the dog he got. That dog is gonna wear him out even more than running hte country will. I feel for the White house staff who are likely going to be the ones dealing with Bo whose breed is basically all ADD and on speed.

546 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:52:36am

On Fox now, they are talking about the award that b-atch Katie Couric is receiving for her crappy interview with Sarah Palin. Katie is being rewarded for attack journalism.
John Ziegler and others will be protesting. His website is here:
[Link: howobamagotelected.com...]

547 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:53:40am

re: #541 Last Mohican

I just read the NYT article. I'm going to quote that paragraph that you quoted again:

This would seem to imply that Obama had actively refused to allow the use of force prior to Saturday morning, even if Captain Phillips' life was in imminent danger (which, of course, it was, from the very beginning of the pirate attack). Or maybe he didn't actively refused, maybe he just sort of voted "present" and was too scared to make a decision until Saturday. Either way, I guess that might explain why the Navy didn't neutralize the pirates on the boat the first time Phillips jumped overboard.

Again, I don't want try to make this a story about Obama. It really isn't, and I don't believe in turning everything into an attack on him. This is a story about some violent criminals, a very brave commercial captain and crew, and some highly skilled sailors who saved an innocent life by doing their job well.

However, the NYT article makes it appear that anyone who's trying to turn this into a victory for Obama, or an example of his leadership skills (the Kos Kids, for example), is getting it all wrong. The NYT article would seem to imply that Obama screwed this up pretty badly, risking Captain Phillips' life for no reason, before he relented and allowed the use of force.

He can't make a decision with out running it past his whole cabinet and the PR people. God help us if he has to make a decision if the US is ever attacked again.

548 katemaclaren  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:53:52am

re: #6 Sharmuta

Happy Birthday, Charles.

How did you know? !

549 FrogMarch  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:54:31am

re: #529 VioletTiger

Good Morning lizards!
And Happy Birthday Charles.

good morning to you, and Happy Birthday Charles!

550 Ojoe  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:54:34am

The dawn brightens over the San Gabriel Mountains of California. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.

Good morning all.

Pirates are a quiz.
The test is islam, and Iran.

Let's keep going ...

551 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:54:47am

re: #545 Rustler

Het Rustler. You got that FB account yet?

552 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:55:19am

re: #526 Spider Mensch

Some months ago a helpful lizard put it this way:
Barack 0bama's Hope Is Changing America.

553 katemaclaren  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:55:35am

re: #546 VioletTiger

On Fox now, they are talking about the award that b-atch Katie Couric is receiving for her crappy interview with Sarah Palin. Katie is being rewarded for attack journalism.
John Ziegler and others will be protesting. His website is here:
[Link: howobamagotelected.com...]

I just heard that. I ordered the video by the way. It came last week but I haven't had time to watch it.

554 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:56:43am

re: #544 goddessoftheclassroom

Give the kitteh some time...

LOL!
Might that be called ... the impending triumph of Good over Evil?

Since you probably have to go soon (I know I do), here's my gratuitous surrender.

555 Ojoe  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:57:09am

re: #552 Pullus Iulius

"Bohicaconomics" , someone also said.

556 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:57:30am

re: #554 pre-Boomer Marine brat

LOL!
Might that be called ... the impending triumph of Good over Evil?

Since you probably have to go soon (I know I do), here's my gratuitous surrender.

MWAH!

557 katemaclaren  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:57:34am

re: #532 goddessoftheclassroom

{Charles}

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

/We'll have to see your nirth certificate to be sure that this really is your birthday...

that's funny--but provocative! ;-)

558 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:59:15am

re: #548 katemaclaren

How did you know? !

See my #477 pre-Boomer Marine brat.

Sharm was the originator of the conspiracy.

notice the hint about the "t.j."

559 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:59:42am

re: #556 goddessoftheclassroom

MWAH!

MWAH!
Have a great day.

560 Rustler  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:04:39am

re: #551 Erik The Red What's facebook :P. I started It haven't sent back the Confirmation stuff or set up page tho. I probably need to get it going.

561 Last Mohican  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:05:01am

re: #530 Rustler

Speaking of the Obama dog which shelter carries Portugese water dogs?

Maybe it's in Lisbon. Right by the harbor.

562 gregg  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:06:03am

I read this over at Market Watch regarding the GM bankruptcy:

One plan under consideration would create a new company that would buy the "good" assets of GM almost immediately after the carmaker files for bankruptcy, the New York Times reported. Less desirable assets, including unwanted brands, factories and health-care obligations, would be left in the old company, which could be liquidated over several years, it said.

Might work if they leave the UAW in the old company.

563 Last Mohican  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:06:38am

re: #549 FrogMarch

good morning to you, and Happy Birthday Charles!

Is it Charles' birthday? Happy birthday Charles! Enjoy a big slice of birthday cake, on a large cardboard box table, with some plastic silverware.

564 katemaclaren  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:06:46am

Charles, you may have seen this since I posted it before, but since it is your birthday, and I don't KNOW for sure you have actually witnessed this, I want to urge you to take time out. Sit down on a box. Watch this and get a smile for the day--maybe even a belly laugh on your birthday.

Your text to link...

I am sending you a prezzie, too.

565 Irish Rose  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:07:48am

Good morning lizards, and happy birthday Charles!

566 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:09:44am

re: #565 Irish Rose

Good morning lizards, and happy birthday Charles!

With his move maybe Charles has forgotten it is his birthday///

567 rightside  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:11:05am

re: #556 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

568 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:12:36am

Good morning you all - from a moderately cool (50 degrees going up to 54 degrees) cloudy and rainy Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

AND, HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHARLES!

569 Irish Rose  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:12:48am

This is the first that I've seen of the Lizard HQ move, Charles... my sympathies, moving truly does bite the big one. Hope that you've managed to successfully move everything where it needs to go and have at least some of it unpacked this morning.

I anticipate only one more serious move in my life, when I move in with my fiance and get married about a year from now.

The next one will be a small move to the old folks home, and that won't be for a while yet.

570 katemaclaren  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:12:57am

re: #477 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Okay!

571 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:14:24am

re: #556 goddessoftheclassroom Hey there {goddess} good morning to you! Hope you're well - hell, hope you're still here to read this! LOL!

572 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:14:33am

Good morning everyone and

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LIZARD KING CHARLES!

/this is an easy one to remember as 13 April is my wife's birthday, too.

573 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:15:00am

Warning Lizards
Twitter Worm

How to keep safe from Mikeyy

First of all, experts advise Twitter users not to click on any links from messages containing the words "Mikeyy" or "Stalkdaily". It is recommended you use third-party Twitter desktop clients like Twhirl or TweetDeck (both PC and Mac) and that you do not use the web-based version of Twitter, especially for viewing user profiles (as this is where the attack seems to originate).

574 katemaclaren  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:15:09am

Ciao lizards--gotta go back to the salt mine--better known as college classroom. Semester almost over. Thank goodness.
Have a happy day, Charles and the same to all of you green, scaly things.

575 jdog29  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:17:25am

Happy Birthday Charles. How old and decrepit are you?

576 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:17:31am

re: #477 pre-Boomer Marine brat Good morning - as conspiracies go, this was one of the worst kept "secrets" around because
reine & vxbush were not the ONLY LGFer's to send around an e-mail to that effect.

577 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:17:31am

re: #570 katemaclaren

Okay!

Pass the word privately to any other Lizards whom you know. I just corresponded with reine. She says, though it's meant as a surprise, subtle hints in comments re tj$ are probably okay at this point.

578 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:17:34am
579 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:17:54am

re: #568 realwest

re: #565 Irish Rose

Good morning! How are you feeling today?

580 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:18:52am

Morning all.

581 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:21:28am

Somali Insurgents Reportedly Fire Mortars at U.S. Congressman in Mogadishu

Maybe it's only me, but this might not be the best time to be vacationing in Somalia?

582 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:21:59am

re: #576 realwest

Good morning - as conspiracies go, this was one of the worst kept "secrets" around because
reine & vxbush were not the ONLY LGFer's to send around an e-mail to that effect.

Heh! I wouldn't be surprised if someone who shouldn't have been (*wink*) was cc'd on one of those.

583 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:22:21am

Jolt while drinking my coffee this morning:
I live in a City of about 200,000 with just a few semi-rural areas included in the city limits. This morning there were three total listings in the "Found" section of the classifieds. Two dogs and an emu! Found on a street less than a mile from my house. Where the hell did the emu come from?

584 JustMyView  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:22:54am

re: #541 Last Mohican

I just read the NYT article. I'm going to quote that paragraph that you quoted again:

The WaPo report gives a somewhat different impression of what authority was granted when. An excerpt:

Throughout the past four days, White House officials played down Obama's role in the hostage drama. Until yesterday, he made no public statements about the pirates.

In fact, aides said yesterday, Obama had been briefed 17 times since he returned from his trip abroad, including several times from the White House Situation Room. And without giving too many details, senior White House officials made it clear that Obama had provided the authority for the rescue.

"The president's focus was on saving and protecting the life of the captain," one adviser said. Friday evening, after a National Security Council telephone update, Obama granted U.S. forces what aides called "the authority to use appropriate force to save the life of the captain." On Saturday at 9:20 a.m., Obama went further, giving authority to an "additional set of U.S. forces to engage in potential emergency actions."

A top military official, Vice Adm. William E. Gortney, commander of the Fifth Fleet, explained that Obama issued a standing order that the military was to act if the captain's life was in immediate danger.

"Our authorities came directly from the president," he said. "And the number one authority for incidents if we were going to respond was if the captain's life was in immediate danger. And that is the situation in which our sailors acted."

After the rescue ended, White House officials immediately offered expanded information about Obama's role, though the president simply released a statement praising the troops and expressing pride in the captain's bravery.


The full article is here.

585 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:23:01am

re: #580 Lincolntf

Morning all.

Good morning

586 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:24:00am

re: #583 Lincolntf

Jolt while drinking my coffee this morning:
I live in a City of about 200,000 with just a few semi-rural areas included in the city limits. This morning there were three total listings in the "Found" section of the classifieds. Two dogs and an emu! Found on a street less than a mile from my house. Where the hell did the emu come from?

From an egg

587 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:24:43am
588 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:25:38am

re: #581 Nevergiveup

Somali Insurgents Reportedly Fire Mortars at U.S. Congressman in Mogadishu

Maybe it's only me, but this might not be the best time to be vacationing in Somalia?

Start Your Somalia Vacation Planning Today//

589 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:27:48am

re: #588 midwestgak

Start Your Somalia Vacation Planning Today//

Actually the perfect time... rates couldn't be any lower.

590 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:27:50am

re: #588 midwestgak

Start Your Somalia Vacation Planning Today//

GAK!
Good morning, haven't seen you in awhile!
How are things?

591 razorbacker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:28:13am

re: #569 Irish Rose

This is the first that I've seen of the Lizard HQ move, Charles... my sympathies, moving truly does bite the big one. Hope that you've managed to successfully move everything where it needs to go and have at least some of it unpacked this morning.

I anticipate only one more serious move in my life, when I move in with my fiance and get married about a year from now.

The next one will be a small move to the old folks home, and that won't be for a while yet.

All our married life, we moved every two or three years due to work transfers. Stressful and aggravating, but that was the way to maximize your pay.

So when we decided to quit chasing the corporate dollar and just settle down somewhere compatible I promised my wife, "No more. Just this last move here to this little house in the woods and it's the last time."

And now, almost sixteen years later, I want to move just to get away from all this stuff we've accumulated so quickly. Moving is a hassle, but at least it keeps your possessions down to a manageable amount.

592 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:29:29am

Happy Birthday Charles! Have yourself a great day.

593 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:30:04am

re: #581 Nevergiveup

Somali Insurgents Reportedly Fire Mortars at U.S. Congressman in Mogadishu

Maybe it's only me, but this might not be the best time to be vacationing in Somalia?

Aren't these the same ones who visited Cuba?

594 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:30:33am

re: #568 realwest

Good morning, real! I'm doing fine, had a good Easter celebration. I hope everything is going well for you today.

595 razorbacker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:31:12am

re: #583 Lincolntf

Emus were going to be the "next big thing" a few years back. Fertile eggs were going for tens of thousands of dollars.

Ponzi scheme, of course. The market crashed and they weren't even worth the cost of their emu-chow. Folks around here just turned them loose. I had a pair come walking through the deer woods one season.

596 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:31:30am

Manbearpig - South Park! On In-demand...

Never seen this one.

597 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:32:09am

re: #595 razorbacker

Emus were going to be the "next big thing" a few years back. Fertile eggs were going for tens of thousands of dollars.

Ponzi scheme, of course. The market crashed and they weren't even worth the cost of their emu-chow. Folks around here just turned them loose. I had a pair come walking through the deer woods one season.

Yes, they wre quite "the thing" for awhile! I had a friend who retired and started an emu farm with her hubby.

598 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:32:13am

re: #583 Lincolntf

Aren't emus raised like ostriches now? Ostrich meat has gotten pretty popular in certain areas. Maybe it was a new business venture.

599 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:32:26am

Fine company and interesting events your day has Charles. Happy b'day!

To my eternal shame I share mine with Yassar Arafat.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

600 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:32:55am

re: #597 reine.de.tout

GMTA!

601 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:33:22am

re: #591 razorbacker

All our married life, we moved every two or three years due to work transfers. Stressful and aggravating, but that was the way to maximize your pay.

So when we decided to quit chasing the corporate dollar and just settle down somewhere compatible I promised my wife, "No more. Just this last move here to this little house in the woods and it's the last time."

And now, almost sixteen years later, I want to move just to get away from all this stuff we've accumulated so quickly. Moving is a hassle, but at least it keeps your possessions down to a manageable amount.

Amen to that. We are moving back to the US next month. I have been married for 13 years. The amount of crap one can accumulate is frightening. We are shipping a 40 foot container over and we have still sold, given, thrown away a lot of stuff.

602 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:33:25am
603 KenJen  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:33:28am

The Obamas finally got a dog. Interestingly they named it Bo. - B.O.- Barak Obama's initals. Coincidence?

604 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:33:31am

re: #590 reine.de.tout

{reine}

Doing well. Spent last week with friends in Ohio.
Is the b-day matter set?

605 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:33:45am

re: #581 Nevergiveup

Just heard that this is a Jersey Congressman.

606 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:33:52am

re: #588 midwestgak

What could possibly go wrong?

607 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:33:56am

re: #604 midwestgak

{reine}

Doing well. Spent last week with friends in Ohio.
Is the b-day matter set?

yes.

608 JustMyView  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:34:32am

re: #530 Rustler

Speaking of the Obama dog which shelter carries Portugese water dogs?

The Post has a detailed story on Bo's origins. He comes from a kennel in Texas--the kennel from which Sen. Kennedy had purchased his dogs--and was originally sold to a woman who already owned another dog. Unfortunately, the new pup didn't get along w/ the older dog, so he was returned to the breeder, at which point he became available to the Obamas. So, as people in the dog world say, he is being "re-homed". And, since the Obamas ended up not getting a shelter dog, they are making a financial donation to the local humane society.
'

609 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:34:40am

re: #584 JustMyView

The full article is here.

It's not different in one crucial detail -- when did Obama give authorization to use force?

Friday evening, after a National Security Council telephone update, Obama granted U.S. forces what aides called "the authority to use appropriate force to save the life of the captain."

Friday evening, Washington time, would make it AFTER Phillips' unsuccessful escape attempt, during which the Navy on the scene couldn't use force to help him.

Friday evening, Washington time, Obama probably realized his ass would be in a wringer if Phillips was eventually killed, and it came out that he (Obama) hadn't given the military some sort of authorization to use force. Hence, Obama's release to use force ... "if it appeared that the captain’s life was in imminent danger".

I give Obama credit for doing that. However, it strikes me as an interesting limitation to put upon the Navy's ability to act. IMHO, Obama only went as far as he absolutely HAD to go to cover his own ass.

610 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:34:42am
611 Irish Rose  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:34:44am

re: #579 VioletTiger

re: #565 Irish Rose

Good morning! How are you feeling today?


Fair to middlin' :).

Had a physical last week and got a bad report from the doc though, so I'm now taking meds on a regular basis and making some lifestyle and dietary modifications. Two absolute truths are coming home to roost this week:

1. You simply cannot escape your genetic fate
2. Middle age sucks.

/at least my cholesterol levels are good

612 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:34:54am

Belated thanks to our Commander in Chief for authorizing the military to execute as only they can, yesterday.

Did anyone just hear that Somalis fired mortars at black Rep .Donald Payne,(D-NJ) who was sent their by our administration to talk with international groups about piracy? He is a 10 or 11 term incumbent from Newark, NJ and serves on the House international relations committee.

Fox News said he may be on his way back to the US after getting fired upon by unfriendly Somalis.

613 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:35:23am

re: #608 JustMyView

Too bad TK didn't have his water dog on board in August 1969.

614 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:35:29am

re: #611 Irish Rose

Hiya Rose!

615 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:37:08am

re: #598 VioletTiger

I've heard that, and there was an emu/ostrich type farm way out in the sticks back when I lived in MA. I suppose it's possible some urban emu rancher could have lost one of his flock. I'm going to be on a search mission for the farm next time I go out.

616 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:38:38am
617 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:38:51am

re: #612 alegrias

Belated thanks to our Commander in Chief for authorizing the military to execute as only they can, yesterday.

Did anyone just hear that Somalis fired mortars at black Rep .Donald Payne,(D-NJ) who was sent their by our administration to talk with international groups about piracy? He is a 10 or 11 term incumbent from Newark, NJ and serves on the House international relations committee.

Fox News said he may be on his way back to the US after getting fired upon by unfriendly Somalis.

My guess is, he's talking to the Puntland gov't, which doesn't control anything beyond the back wall of the outhouse.

618 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:39:07am

re: #615 Lincolntf

I've heard that, and there was an emu/ostrich type farm way out in the sticks back when I lived in MA. I suppose it's possible some urban emu rancher could have lost one of his flock. I'm going to be on a search mission for the farm next time I go out.

I'll trade you one emu for a couple turkey buzzards. My area is just lousy with them. In fact, two towns over, they have a Buzzard Festival every march.

619 jorline  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:40:00am

Breaking News

Somali Insurgents Fire at U.S. Congressman Payne During Visit to Mogadishu

Somali insurgents fire mortars toward U.S. Congressman Donald Payne during a visit to the Somali capital, Reuters reported.


Land Pirates

620 razorbacker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:40:02am

Since Obama only authorized force once Captain Phillips' life was determined to be in danger...

If I'm a pie rat leader I'm bringing cakes, candles, dancing girls, party favors and assorted gaily wrapped presents along to the next hi-jacking. We'll put the crew on the deck and party like it is 1999, all the way back to home base.

"Pie rats? Us? Nooooo! We're just mobile party planners, we is! No pie rats to be seen here."

621 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:40:09am

Pirates of the World, Unite!

(Pirate Union threatens whole world...looks like what we have here is an Overseas Pirate Contingency. I'd like to consider a counter threat, GWOP, Global War on Pirates)

622 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:40:42am

re: #616 Iron Fist

Guy I worked with moved down into VA a few years back. Lives on (believe it or not) "Purgatory Mountain". Seriously.

Sat his garbage out last night (and a grease container)...guess who came to visit him last night... bear paw print in the mud about 6" across.

623 BaseballMom57  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:41:08am

Good morning Lizards! Just doing a drive by to ask...on the threads yesterday there was talk of the rescue of Capt. Phillips. Every news show I have watched has maintained it was an all-Navy operation, but a few Lizards were saying the snipers were Marines. I'm just curious where this discrepancy came from? I am immensely proud either way - my Dad retired from the Navy, my Mom was a Marine, and my brother was a Marine as well. I'm more interested in the story's accuracy than who did what to whom.

Thanks!

624 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:41:15am

re: #583 Lincolntf

Jolt while drinking my coffee this morning:
I live in a City of about 200,000 with just a few semi-rural areas included in the city limits. This morning there were three total listings in the "Found" section of the classifieds. Two dogs and an emu! Found on a street less than a mile from my house. Where the hell did the emu come from?

Australia? :-)

625 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:41:19am

re: #619 jorline

Breaking News

Somali Insurgents Fire at U.S. Congressman Payne During Visit to Mogadishu


Land Pirates

Candygram

626 Aye Pod  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:41:21am

Btw, a sincere apology to all those who clicked on my Obama spin-off link last night in the fervent hopes that it was true.

;-)

627 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:42:37am
It’s the traditional overnight thread, sans quote...

Make your own quote !

"I'm Brian Fellows"

628 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:43:01am

re: #611 Irish Rose

Is the Advair helping?

629 Aye Pod  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:43:12am

re: #596 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Manbearpig - South Park! On In-demand...

Never seen this one.

You'll like it.

630 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:43:29am
631 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:43:32am

re: #596 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Manbearpig - South Park! On In-demand...

Never seen this one.

One of their better efforts.

Whenever Al Gore's name comes up, my kids start doing his "Manbearpig!" exclamation. Thanks to South Park, they think Al Gore's a complete douchebag.

Heh.

632 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:43:34am

re: #617 pre-Boomer Marine brat

My guess is, he's talking to the Puntland gov't, which doesn't control anything beyond the back wall of the outhouse.

* * * *
Another Dem deployed to do dirty dances with pirates?

Do Somalis even have outhouses? Outside of their Minnesota cousins, I kinda doubt they've reached that level of sanitation system! But they do have GPS and agents in London, so they are advanced in terror.

633 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:43:47am

re: #619 jorline

Breaking News

Somali Insurgents Fire at U.S. Congressman Payne During Visit to Mogadishu


Land Pirates

Let's send all the congressmen and senators there to try their luck...

634 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:43:50am

re: #579 VioletTiger
and
re: #594 Kenneth
Good morning to each of you! I'm doing ok, thanks and hope each of you are too!
Sorry, I was in a - ah - "conversation" with Mom for a while!

635 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:44:16am

re: #623 BaseballMom57

Good morning Lizards! Just doing a drive by to ask...on the threads yesterday there was talk of the rescue of Capt. Phillips. Every news show I have watched has maintained it was an all-Navy operation, but a few Lizards were saying the snipers were Marines. I'm just curious where this discrepancy came from? I am immensely proud either way - my Dad retired from the Navy, my Mom was a Marine, and my brother was a Marine as well. I'm more interested in the story's accuracy than who did what to whom.

Thanks!

The shooters were SEALS.

636 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:44:41am
637 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:44:44am

re: #598 VioletTiger

Aren't emus raised like ostriches now? Ostrich meat has gotten pretty popular in certain areas. Maybe it was a new business venture.

An Emu

My sister-in-law once thought she would raise them.

638 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:45:20am

G'day again from Down Under to {everyone}

Love these four day long weekends...

639 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:45:47am

re: #635 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Love the part about them being quietly airdropped at night. Our military is da best!

640 FrogMarch  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:45:51am

re: #635 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The shooters were SEALS.

The operation to rescue Capt. Richard Phillips involved dozens of Navy SEALs, who parachuted from an aircraft into the scene near dark Saturday, landing in the ocean.

*pride*

641 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:46:17am

re: #623 BaseballMom57

Good morning Lizards! Just doing a drive by to ask...on the threads yesterday there was talk of the rescue of Capt. Phillips. Every news show I have watched has maintained it was an all-Navy operation, but a few Lizards were saying the snipers were Marines. I'm just curious where this discrepancy came from? I am immensely proud either way - my Dad retired from the Navy, my Mom was a Marine, and my brother was a Marine as well. I'm more interested in the story's accuracy than who did what to whom.

Thanks!

The Marines and Navy are separate, but joined, is one way to look at it. Navy's always had Marines aboard for Security (Repel Boarders), and for fast strikes onto the shore. Carriers have both Marine and Navy Pilots; Ever watch "JAG"? The lawyers are both Navy and Marines.....

642 Aye Pod  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:46:21am

UK politics: Labour really screwed up this time-

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

The Tories are having their day in the sun this bank holiday Monday as well they are entitled to after team Gordon Brown got themselves into another fine mess.

The headlines are serious and damning this morning as Labour tries to limit the damage caused by dumb and dumber, Damian McBride and Derek Draper.

The Guardian has “Gordon Brown told: smear tactics could cost Labour election“. It says Brown is to be told by senior Labour figures this week that he must clean up Downing Street if Labour is to have a chance of winning the next election as a “furious” David Cameron (he’s furious in all the papers, I can imagine him saying “we must make sure we get over quite how “furious” I am) demanded a personal apology from the prime minister. It has “one senior Labour figure” warning the party had suffered “reputational damage”. All true.

643 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:46:25am

re: #608 JustMyView

The Post has a detailed story on Bo's origins. He comes from a kennel in Texas--the kennel from which Sen. Kennedy had purchased his dogs--and was originally sold to a woman who already owned another dog. Unfortunately, the new pup didn't get along w/ the older dog, so he was returned to the breeder, at which point he became available to the Obamas. So, as people in the dog world say, he is being "re-homed". And, since the Obamas ended up not getting a shelter dog, they are making a financial donation to the local humane society.
'

The question is, will Bo get along with the alpha bitch at the White House?

644 Wishing  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:47:03am

Happy Birthday Charles!
Have a wonderful day!
(take a break from unpacking!)

645 rightside  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:47:40am

re: #643 Kosh's Shadow

hillary? or wab?

646 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:47:41am

re: #611 Irish Rose
Good morning Rose - sorry to hear about the not-so-good news from the doc.
There's one more inescapable fact of life that you didn't mention: no one gets out of here alive.
Don't let 'em wear you down, you just fight as hard as you can and do what you can do. Please.

647 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:48:17am

re: #643 Kosh's Shadow

These are pretty energetic dogs and obviously love water. Cannot wait for him to take a swim in the fountain.

648 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:48:29am

re: #612 alegrias

Belated thanks to our Commander in Chief for authorizing the military to execute as only they can, yesterday.

Did anyone just hear that Somalis fired mortars at black Rep .Donald Payne,(D-NJ) who was sent their by our administration to talk with international groups about piracy? He is a 10 or 11 term incumbent from Newark, NJ and serves on the House international relations committee.

Fox News said he may be on his way back to the US after getting fired upon by unfriendly Somalis.

We can "negotiate" like that, too. Bring our Rep home and send in the Marines.

649 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:48:59am

re: #611 Irish Rose

Fair to middlin' :).

Had a physical last week and got a bad report from the doc though, so I'm now taking meds on a regular basis and making some lifestyle and dietary modifications. Two absolute truths are coming home to roost this week:

1. You simply cannot escape your genetic fate
2. Middle age sucks.

/at least my cholesterol levels are good

{Rose}

650 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:49:56am

re: #616 Iron Fist

We had a bear spotted just down the road a piece from my girlfriend's house maybe two years ago. They are rare in my area (I've actually seen one, years ago, just lying next to the road watching the traffic go by), but they are here. Deer are a positive road hazard, though.

We've found bear tracks in our yard, in central Mass, last summer. And bears have been seen in the are.
So no bird feeders except during hibernation time.

651 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:51:21am

re: #620 razorbacker

Since Obama only authorized force once Captain Phillips' life was determined to be in danger...

If I'm a pie rat leader I'm bringing cakes, candles, dancing girls, party favors and assorted gaily wrapped presents along to the next hi-jacking. We'll put the crew on the deck and party like it is 1999, all the way back to home base.

"Pie rats? Us? Nooooo! We're just mobile party planners, we is! No pie rats to be seen here."

Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.

652 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:51:53am

re: #608 JustMyView

The Post has a detailed story on Bo's origins. He comes from a kennel in Texas--the kennel from which Sen. Kennedy had purchased his dogs--and was originally sold to a woman who already owned another dog. Unfortunately, the new pup didn't get along w/ the older dog, so he was returned to the breeder, at which point he became available to the Obamas. So, as people in the dog world say, he is being "re-homed". And, since the Obamas ended up not getting a shelter dog, they are making a financial donation to the local humane society.
'


Hi JMV, that story is way to convenient. This was greased from the jump, The Obamas get a housebroken dog & make it look like a resue.
Was the original owner, oh I don't know an Obakma supporter?

653 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:52:00am

re: #612 alegrias Good morning alegrias - yes, as I said twice yesterday, Obama was smart enough to give the military the authorization it needed to save Captain Phillips life and then HE GOT OUT OF THE WAY - no micromanaging this situation from Obama. For that he does indeed deserve our thanks and congratulations.
And if you don't think his non-micromanaging this was a BIG benefit, just remember "Slick" Bill Clinton and HIS micromanaging of the BlackHawk Down in Mogadushu and his same micromanaging of the situation in DR after that.
It's a SMART POTUS who lets the military take care of the military's obligations and at least Obama did give the go ahead and clarified for the Captain of the Bainbridge just what the ROE were.

654 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:52:18am

re: #650 Kosh's Shadow

We've found bear tracks in our yard, in central Mass, last summer. And bears have been seen in the are.
So no bird feeders except during hibernation time.

OT, how close are you to Worcester? I went to junior high there.

655 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:53:01am

MSNBC has a compilation of BO praise here; the link that I clicked was titled 'first 100 days-a daring rescue'....Sheesh:

BO the rescuer

656 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:53:09am

re: #652 opnion

Hi JMV, that story is way to convenient. This was greased from the jump, The Obamas get a housebroken dog & make it look like a resue.
Was the original owner, oh I don't know an Obakma supporter?

I agree. It's been out for months that theywere going for a P. Water dog.

657 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:53:20am

re: #619 jorline

Breaking News

Somali Insurgents Fire at U.S. Congressman Payne During Visit to Mogadishu


Land Pirates

Black Hawk Dove Not Down

658 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:53:40am

re: #640 FrogMarch

*pride*

* * * *
Parachuting Frogs/SEALs are awesome! A couple years ago, at the Maryland Preakness Horse race, these Navy guys parachuted onto the horse tracks, before the horses started racing. They were fit, fabulous and made you proud & humble to be an American.

Michael Steele was then Lt. Governor of Maryland, so it was a patriotic love fest that day.

659 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:53:51am

re: #619 jorline
Hey jorline - good to see you this morning - no, not "land pirates" just some more jihadist muslims trying to kill more Americans. IOW, terrorists.
How are you doing today my friend?

660 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:54:25am

re: #653 realwest

Good morning alegrias - yes, as I said twice yesterday, Obama was smart enough to give the military the authorization it needed to save Captain Phillips life and then HE GOT OUT OF THE WAY - no micromanaging this situation from Obama. For that he does indeed deserve our thanks and congratulations.
And if you don't think his non-micromanaging this was a BIG benefit, just remember "Slick" Bill Clinton and HIS micromanaging of the BlackHawk Down in Mogadushu and his same micromanaging of the situation in DR after that.
It's a SMART POTUS who lets the military take care of the military's obligations and at least Obama did give the go ahead and clarified for the Captain of the Bainbridge just what the ROE were.

OK... and do you think he would have backed up the guys on the ground if things had gone terribly wrong?

661 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:54:33am

re: #635 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The shooters were SEALS.

Not surprisingly. They also needed to get close, in water, and quietly. This is exactly a type of mission SEALS are trained for, and very well trained.
(Note I had suggested using SEALS last week.)

662 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:54:47am

Happy Birthday, Charles. Yes, I have a reminder set on my cell phone, that went off at 8:00 this morning. I know; it's pathetic.

663 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:56:14am

re: #619 jorline

Breaking News

Somali Insurgents Fire at U.S. Congressman Payne During Visit to Mogadishu


Land Pirates

Plugs and Hillary could give him pointers about being under fire.

/

664 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:56:17am

re: #660 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

OK... and do you think he would have backed up the guys on the ground if things had gone terribly wrong?

I was just formulating the same reply. If this had failed 44 would have ripped the ground guys a new one and pushed all the blame across.

665 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:56:36am

re: #645 rightside

hillary? or wab?

Wab. Hillary isn't staying at the White House.
Plus, I think it is clear Hillary is taking orders, not running the show. Now, technically, that's how it is supposed to be, but Hillary's foreign policy would be somewhat better than 0's

666 razorbacker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:56:43am

re: #616 Iron Fist

Since we've seen the tracks and others have seen the bear, and now my neighbor has game-camera photos of a mountain lion, I'm pretty psyched about the possibility of a tiger escaping from Terpentine Creek big cat sanctuary.

'Cause then, of course, it'll be "lions and tigers and bears. Oh, my."

667 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:57:00am

This story is just awful...

Father hires hitmen to kill daughter because she wore a miniskirt

AN Azeri immigrant in Russia's northern city of Saint Petersburg has been charged with hiring hit men to kill his 21-year-old daughter for wearing a mini-skirt, police said today.

The man's arrest follows the detention last week of two other citizens of Azerbaijan, a majority Muslim state in the Caucasus, who confessed to murdering the girl, a university medical student.

“They admitted to being paid 100,000 rubles ($4140) by the girl's father. They said he wanted to punish his daughter for flouting national traditions and wearing a mini-skirt,” a police source told said today.

The girl was abducted on the street in Russia's second city on March 8, taken to the outskirts of Saint Petersburg and then shot twice in the head, the source said


That poor poor girl...

668 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:57:23am

re: #661 Kosh's Shadow

Not surprisingly. They also needed to get close, in water, and quietly. This is exactly a type of mission SEALS are trained for, and very well trained.
(Note I had suggested using SEALS last week.)

I blame Bush for this success.
/wait a sec......

669 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:58:03am

re: #656 VioletTiger

I agree. It's been out for months that theywere going for a P. Water dog.

Obama has to make everything look bigger than life. I will bet that this is an Obama supporter who took the dog home to train & housebreak.

670 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:58:18am

re: #654 pre-Boomer Marine brat

OT, how close are you to Worcester? I went to junior high there.

About 30 miles north of Worcester, and I went to college in Worcester.

671 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:59:00am

re: #667 aussiemagpie

That is appalling. An insane culture with twisted morals.

672 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:59:14am

re: #667 aussiemagpie

This story is just awful...

Father hires hitmen to kill daughter because she wore a miniskirt


That poor poor girl...

Honour Killing...Chicago Style

673 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:59:34am

re: #660 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

OK... and do you think he would have backed up the guys on the ground if things had gone terribly wrong?

* * * *
He would have had plausible deniability, since he had only spoken publicly about urgent HOUSING crisis issues and wasn't "distracted" with this mission.

US Navy would have been in the dog-house.

674 Wishing  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:59:57am

re: #672 Spare O'Lake

Honour Killing...Chicago Style

Bastards!

675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 6:59:58am

re: #664 Erik The Red

I was just formulating the same reply. If this had failed 44 would have ripped the ground guys a new one and pushed all the blame across.

Success has a hundred fathers, failure is an orphan.

...especially with Mr. Responsibility in the WH.

676 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:00:06am

Erik

Stop smiling!

Two wickets gone....come on Aussies :-)

*Sorry, cricket talk*

677 JustMyView  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:00:39am

re: #656 VioletTiger

I agree. It's been out for months that theywere going for a P. Water dog.

Yes, Obama said on This Week couple months ago that they were going to look at shelters for either a Labradoodle or a PWD because those breeds were manageable in terms of Malia's allergies. As I understand it, Kennedy encouraged them to consider the PWD and the this dog became available, so the idea of getting a shelter dog was dropped.

678 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:00:58am

Good morning all and Happy Birthday Charles!

The O is going to have a heck of a time keeping the pup out of the pools and fountains. Our Newfs jumped in the pool every chance they got. They wuz sneaky!

Drying wet dogs was my part-time occupation for years!

679 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:01:17am

re: #676 aussiemagpie

Erik

Stop smiling!

Two wickets gone....come on Aussies :-)

*Sorry, cricket talk*

Not smiling yet. Just a little smirk.

680 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:01:21am

re: #660 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

re: #664 Erik The Red

See my not-so-humble opinion in my #609 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Give him credit that's due -- he DID authorized lethal force -- however....

If Phillips had eventually been killed, I'd expect BHO to pontificate about how he'd tried all along to prevent any harm coming to him.

681 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:02:59am

re: #671 Kenneth

That is appalling. An insane culture with twisted morals.

This story is just so upsetting, and if anyone dares tell me about how Islam is a religion of peace I will have to walk away

682 AmeriDan  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:03:01am

re: #677 JustMyView

so the idea of getting a shelter dog was dropped a lie from the start.

683 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:03:11am

re: #675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Success has a hundred fathers, failure is an orphan.

...especially with Mr. Responsibility in the WH.

The irony, Vet, needs no sarc.

684 jorline  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:03:26am

re: #659 realwest

Hey jorline - good to see you this morning - no, not "land pirates" just some more jihadist muslims trying to kill more Americans. IOW, terrorists.
How are you doing today my friend?

Hey, good morning RW. I'm well, thanks...hope your back is better this week.

lol on the jihadist...they remind me of Matchstick Men.

685 Macker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:03:47am
686 jorline  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:03:50am

re: #663 Ward Cleaver

Plugs and Hillary could give him pointers about being under fire.

/

lmao

687 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:04:27am

re: #672 Spare O'Lake

Honour Killing...Chicago Style

It's hard to believe that a father would have his daughter murdered for wearing a miniskirt - disgusting

688 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:04:34am

re: #680 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Theoretically, congress authorized force in Iraq. Look at the tap dancing there when things weren't a cake walk.

There's an enormous difference between giving your people a go ahead and going to the mat for them come sunshine or storm...

and

...telling them to go ahead with the understanding that if they make the slightest screw up you'll mount them on a cross.

689 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:04:46am

re: #681 aussiemagpie

3 Down. Slight smile comes across my face. :)

690 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:05:07am

re: #667 aussiemagpie

This story is just awful...

Father hires hitmen to kill daughter because she wore a miniskirt


That poor poor girl...

* * * *
What's worse is Russia supplies Azerbaijan's good neighbor Iran with nuclear assistance and covers their back in the UN.

Russia KNOWS it has a jihadi problem and should be working with us, if they truly cared about women in their own country.

691 Macker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:05:45am

re: #672 Spare O'Lake

Honour Killing...Chicago Muslim Style

There, fixed that for ya!

692 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:06:16am

re: #670 Kosh's Shadow

About 30 miles north of Worcester, and I went to college in Worcester.

I was there in the mid-50's. Lived in the southern tier of states prior to that. (heh) My parents had a big Hudson. One morning in Worcester, this southern boy looked out the front window and saw a bump in the snow out by the curb. (*eyes wide*)

693 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:06:18am

re: #660 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Good morning LT! I'm not sure what you mean "do you think he would have backed up the guys on the ground if things had gone terribly wrong?"
Do you mean that the SEAL snipers had missed at 25 meters and the result was that Captain Phillips had been killed - yes, believe it or not, I think Obama would have said "I gave authorization for the Navy to take all appropriate action if it appeared that Captain Phillips life had been in imminent danger; regretably, although they took the appropriate action, they were unable to save his life."
On yesterday morning's DT, I was one of many who doubted that Obama would do a damn thing to try to keep that boat from reaching Somalia; that he wouldn't try to rescue Captain Phillips and I was wrong about that.You KNOW I can't STAND Obama. But I give props where they are due: he authorized the commander on the scene to make the determination AND to take the action. That's all anyone in the military can hope for from the CiC.

694 rightside  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:06:41am

Will they bring the fourth back to the states for trial, and if so, who will be the lefty liberal loony lawyer to rush to defend him from the imperialist Americans?

695 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:06:44am

re: #691 Macker

There, fixed that for ya!

I think it was the "honor killing" part that was Muslim... what made it "Chicago Style" was the hiring of a hit goon.

/your fix makes it redundant.

696 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:07:25am

re: #679 Erik The Red

Not smiling yet. Just a little smirk.

Third wicket gone! I'm getting a bit anxious now...your smirk must
turning into a big smile!

GRRRRRRR

697 Wishing  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:07:29am

re: #685 Macker

Happy Birthday Charles!

Terrific!

698 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:07:37am

re: #690 alegrias

* * * *
What's worse is Russia supplies Azerbaijan's good neighbor Iran with nuclear assistance and covers their back in the UN.

Russia KNOWS it has a jihadi problem and should be working with us, if they truly cared about women in their own country.

I think the Russians are being stupid, because if Iran gets nuclear bombs, one could end up going off in Russia. For that matter, the Taliban probably would be willing to use one against Russia, too, so it could be a Pakistani bomb instead.

699 AmeriDan  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:08:24am

re: #694 rightside

Will they bring the fourth back to the states for trial, and if so, who will be the lefty liberal loony lawyer to rush to defend him from the imperialist Americans?

Isn't Obama a "Law Professor"?

700 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:08:36am

re: #688 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Theoretically, congress authorized force in Iraq. Look at the tap dancing there when things weren't a cake walk.

There's an enormous difference between giving your people a go ahead and going to the mat for them come sunshine or storm...

and

...telling them to go ahead with the understanding that if they make the slightest screw up you'll mount them on a cross.

Amen

701 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:08:47am
702 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:08:51am

re: #691 Macker

There, fixed that for ya!

* * * *
In the old USSR, Communist leaders would not have let this stand. They would have gone radically nuclear on islamists in their midst.

Since Russian women aren't having children, Russia needs immigrants to do the work Russians used to do.

Radical jihadis murdering in your midst is a global situation I want the Russians to get on board fighting, instead of enabling.

703 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:08:56am

re: #689 Erik The Red

3 Down. Slight smile comes across my face. :)

*WHACK* (thanks Mandy for the loan of your stick)

704 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:09:28am

re: #661 Kosh's Shadow
So are Marine Corps snipers. I've never tried to shoot off of a ship's deck, bouncing on the waves, but back in my prime I could plug a playing card at 25 meters with my iron sighted M-14, 10 out of 10 times. From a ship's moving deck - I'd a probably had better luck throwing the M-14 at 'em.
This require the specialized type of training that the SEALS and Marine Corps Snipers receive.

705 Macker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:09:44am

re: #697 Wishing

Yes, that is Yours Truly!

706 saylorfam  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:09:59am

I am not at all happy as to how this Pirate affair was handled. It took far longer to resolve that it ever should have. I am also pissed at reading the reports at how the Navy "turned Back" pirates who were coming out to help the other Pirates. Turned Back my ass, they should have been swimming back to shore with their vessels on the bottom.
Now the next step needs to be taken which is to lay waste to the ports and harbors which give refuge to these pirates. They have been operating with no consequence for years and it needs to be finished with.

707 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:10:10am

re: #698 Kosh's Shadow

I read that Russia is helping Iran with their nuclear program in exchange for help from Iran against the Islamists in Chechnya. In other words, Iran helps guide and move Chechen fighters to Afghanistan/Pakistan.

708 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:10:14am

re: #694 rightside

Hope he was mirandized.

709 razorbacker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:10:23am

re: #690 alegrias

* * * *
What's worse is Russia supplies Azerbaijan's good neighbor Iran with nuclear assistance and covers their back in the UN.

Russia KNOWS it has a jihadi problem and should be working with us, if they truly cared about women in their own country.

Russia, like France, seems to operate under the idea that whatever they do must be in opposition to whatever the United States of America does.

Good, bad, or indifferent the primary consideration seems to be, "Now this is going to hurt us, but it'll hurt those damned Yankee Dogs even worse. Ha, ha!"

710 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:10:34am

re: #694 rightside

Will they bring the fourth back to the states for trial, and if so, who will be the lefty liberal loony lawyer to rush to defend him from the imperialist Americans?

Difficult to say yet. The incident took place in international waters, and I believe the US can claim jurisdiction if it want to. We also have a treaty with Kenya, which actively pursues prosecution of Somalian pirates at our behest if we request it.

I'm sure there are other options as well, maritime law being the rat's nest it is, but these are the two that have been mentioned so far.

711 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:10:34am

re: #687 aussiemagpie

It's hard to believe that a father would have his daughter murdered for wearing a miniskirt - disgusting

Just as awful as the deed itself is what these honour killings are doing to Western Civilization. Every story like this probably spawns hundreds, if not thousands, of raving fascists.

712 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:11:52am

re: #693 realwest

Can't say how he might have spun it in the event of failure, but it's my gut instinct that what you think he might have said is pretty unlikely. At best, he would have said something about how it was regrettable before changing the subject.

Glad it turned out for the best so we don't have to see what kind of CYA would have happened.

"Going to the mat" for the CIC would have been a statement that "It was my call, if mistakes happened, they are my responsibility and my fault." Followed by no orders re-assigning commanders to Greenland Weather Stations...

713 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:12:17am

re: #694 rightside

Will they bring the fourth back to the states for trial, and if so, who will be the lefty liberal loony lawyer to rush to defend him from the imperialist Americans?

* * * *
I heard this am the 14-16 year old will either go to Washington, DC or New York. If he gets jailed in my little neighborhood 6 miles south of DC where the GITMO enemy combatants are going, I'll be ... less than thrilled.

Of course, because he's a juvenile, I expect he'll be released and join the youthful gangs roving the streets of DC anyway. It's a gun free zone you know!

714 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:12:34am

re: #692 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I was there in the mid-50's. Lived in the southern tier of states prior to that. (heh) My parents had a big Hudson. One morning in Worcester, this southern boy looked out the front window and saw a bump in the snow out by the curb. (*eyes wide*)

Worcester gets a lot of snow. When I was in college, in the 70's, there was a blizzard that somehow blew snow through the grilles of cars; I saw some people with the hood open and the engine compartment full of snow.
But then, I grew up in Boston, so I was used to snow. By now, though, I'm tired of shoveling it.

Did you ever see Higgins Armory Museum? I'm sure it was open back in the 50's. It has the best collection of armor (knights' armor) in the US.
Basically, one of the Higgins family collected armor until his wife said "the armor goes or you go", so he created a museum, in the company building, thus getting the best of both worlds - he could see his armor, and keep his wife.

715 Wishing  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:12:38am

re: #705 Macker

Yes, that is Yours Truly!

I knew it had to be!
Way to go!

716 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:12:50am

re: #704 realwest

Those SEALS did some fine shooting. Not only the ship the SEALS were on was bobbing, but so was the target boat!

717 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:13:05am

re: #690 alegrias

* * * *
What's worse is Russia supplies Azerbaijan's good neighbor Iran with nuclear assistance and covers their back in the UN.

Russia KNOWS it has a jihadi problem and should be working with us, if they truly cared about women in their own country.

One day it will be too late for Russia, the demographics are against them

718 AmeriDan  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:13:26am

re: #711 Spare O'Lake

Just as awful as the deed itself is what these honour killings are doing to Western Civilization. Every story like this probably spawns hundreds, if not thousands, of raving fascists.

Not to mention numming the general population to these horror stories.

719 BaseballMom57  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:13:42am

re: #635 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The shooters were SEALS.

Thank you!

720 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:13:53am

re: #714 Kosh's Shadow

Love the Higgins. My neck of the woods too.

721 NCO77  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:14:20am

I have to ask...I forced myself to watch 10 minutes of Saturday Night Live this weekend, and the only word I can think to describe it would be "painfull". I actually found myself feeling sorry for the cast, since I'm sure they know how dreadful the show was.

Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe I'm just getting too old for that type of humor. The one skit I watched was about a science fair and four kids. One of the kids was a girl who was abusive, and her only line was "sorry".

Someone tell me if I'm just an old fogey, or was that show as bad as I thought. How in the world does it stay on the air?

722 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:15:23am

re: #721 NCO77

Nope, not you... SNL is about as funny as a root canal.

723 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:15:51am

re: #703 aussiemagpie

*WHACK* (thanks Mandy for the loan of your stick)

4 down now. Big grin :)

724 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:16:10am

re: #704 realwest

So are Marine Corps snipers. I've never tried to shoot off of a ship's deck, bouncing on the waves, but back in my prime I could plug a playing card at 25 meters with my iron sighted M-14, 10 out of 10 times. From a ship's moving deck - I'd a probably had better luck throwing the M-14 at 'em.
This require the specialized type of training that the SEALS and Marine Corps Snipers receive.

I was thinking of the parachuting down in the water, in the dark, and sneaking up on the lifeboat. The SEALS seem to have more training in small team infiltration.
But I am in no way putting down Marines.

725 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:16:19am

OMG, the congressman's aide Ms. McKinney (sp?) tells Fox News she thinks Don Payne was fired upon "in retaliation" for our rescuing our hostage.

Hope the Dems don't take away the wrong lesson, you know, it's BAD to rescue our own or fight back against pirates.

726 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:16:21am

re: #714 Kosh's Shadow

Did you ever see Higgins Armory Museum? I'm sure it was open back in the 50's. It has the best collection of armor (knights' armor) in the US.
Basically, one of the Higgins family collected armor until his wife said "the armor goes or you go", so he created a museum, in the company building, thus getting the best of both worlds - he could see his armor, and keep his wife.

BE STILL MY HEART!
I LOVED THAT PLACE!
*swoon*
... thud

727 AmeriDan  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:16:27am

re: #721 NCO77

You may very well be an old fogey :), but your dead on target about the show sucking these days.

728 razorbacker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:16:42am

re: #704 realwest

When I was over talking to the folks at Wilson Combat they explained how their test firing operation went.

Each 1911-type .45 that goes out the door is tested. A minimum of 82 rounds is fired; FMJ, wadcutter, and hollow point. The pistol is not shipped until it will fire a five-shot grouping from 15 yards that can be covered with a quarter.

The pistols start at around $2,200. I thought of your comment about the Kimber pistol vs. your old G.I. issued .45 when they told me that.

729 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:16:49am

re: #712 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Can't say how he might have spun it in the event of failure, but it's my gut instinct that what you think he might have said is pretty unlikely. At best, he would have said something about how it was regrettable before changing the subject.

Glad it turned out for the best so we don't have to see what kind of CYA would have happened.

"Going to the mat" for the CIC would have been a statement that "It was my call, if mistakes happened, they are my responsibility and my fault." Followed by no orders re-assigning commanders to Greenland Weather Stations...


I am glad that this all turned out well & that Obama gave the authorization to use force. However, I am not going to go overboard praising BHO for doing his job. The biggest part of his job description is to protect American lives. He did nothing extraordinary.

730 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:16:59am

re: #714 Kosh's Shadow

Worcester gets a lot of snow. When I was in college, in the 70's, there was a blizzard that somehow blew snow through the grilles of cars; I saw some people with the hood open and the engine compartment full of snow.
But then, I grew up in Boston, so I was used to snow. By now, though, I'm tired of shoveling it.

Did you ever see Higgins Armory Museum? I'm sure it was open back in the 50's. It has the best collection of armor (knights' armor) in the US.
Basically, one of the Higgins family collected armor until his wife said "the armor goes or you go", so he created a museum, in the company building, thus getting the best of both worlds - he could see his armor, and keep his wife.

Worcester,Mass.-Ft Devens.....always fun in winter! I went thru a school at Ft Devens from Nov '73 thru Feb '74; I got a lot of snow time in while there. Enjoyed hanging out at a couple of spots off post, but couldn't tell ya' there names anymore-too much time has passed....:>))

731 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:17:05am

re: #725 alegrias

OMG, the congressman's aide Ms. McKinney (sp?) tells Fox News she thinks Don Payne was fired upon "in retaliation" for our rescuing our hostage.

Hope the Dems don't take away the wrong lesson, you know, it's BAD to rescue our own or fight back against pirates.

Too late. That lesson dates back many years for the Dems.

732 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:17:40am

Higgins museum link.

ooo, beerfest in the great hall, how fun. We may have to go to this.

[Link: www.higgins.org...]

733 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:17:45am

re: #711 Spare O'Lake

Just as awful as the deed itself is what these honour killings are doing to Western Civilization. Every story like this probably spawns hundreds, if not thousands, of raving fascists.

And mobilise the feminist groups who will march and protest honour killings////////

734 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:18:03am

re: #707 Kenneth

I read that Russia is helping Iran with their nuclear program in exchange for help from Iran against the Islamists in Chechnya. In other words, Iran helps guide and move Chechen fighters to Afghanistan/Pakistan.

* * * *
Like the Russians backed Syria, which also supports Hezbollah and Al Qaedans trying to kill Americans on their borders with Iraq.

Bad actors all.

735 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:18:43am
736 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:18:51am

re: #722 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Nope, not you... SNL is about as funny as a root canal.

I only watch the old shows. I'd probably consider through the Eddie Murphy era to be good, although there were a few years after the original cast that got pretty bad.

737 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:19:14am

re: #714 Kosh's Shadow

I love Worcester chat. That was the Blizzard of '78, right? I remember school being cancelled for at least a week and snowdrifts lasting until June. Good times. Oh, and Higgins Armory is amazing. I used to go every Wednesday instead of school in the 5th and 6th grade. Great place.

738 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:19:49am

re: #725 alegrias

OMG, the congressman's aide Ms. McKinney (sp?) tells Fox News she thinks Don Payne was fired upon "in retaliation" for our rescuing our hostage.

Hope the Dems don't take away the wrong lesson, you know, it's BAD to rescue our own or fight back against pirates.

Actually, I was sort of hoping they would do exactly that. Dissing the Navy over this incident is a complete non-starter; there is unanimous joy over the outcome. Dems bashing the military right now would play as well as the neighborhood kid leaving a burning paper bag full of sh*t on your doorstep; it would be political suicide.

739 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:20:01am

Payne survives mortar attach in mogadishu.re: #721 NCO77

SNL used to be a funny satirical show. 1970's. SNL now reflects the mindless, humorless, crassness of this generation. IMHO

740 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:20:05am

re: #726 pre-Boomer Marine brat

BE STILL MY HEART!
I LOVED THAT PLACE!
*swoon*
... thud

Higgins Armory has gotten bigger; they have the whole building now.
I need to go back there; it has been years.

741 apachegunner  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:20:46am

re: #730 Pietr morning Pieter, I have a InfoOps mission at Devens in two weeks. place has changed greatly since you were there.

742 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:21:02am

re: #723 Erik The Red

4 down now. Big grin :)

Oh dear! You're allowed to grin now while I will get some tissues to wipe my tears :-(

Three quick wickets was not in the script....

743 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:21:03am
744 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:21:32am

re: #724 Kosh's Shadow

I was thinking of the parachuting down in the water, in the dark, and sneaking up on the lifeboat. The SEALS seem to have more training in small team infiltration.
But I am in no way putting down Marines.

They air dropped in, then set up positions on the fan tail of the destroyer to finish off the pirates. No sneaking up on lifeboats involved.

745 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:21:45am

re: #712 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Well fortunately we'll never know. But his saying "It was my call, if mistakes happened, they are my responsibility and my fault." isn't far fetched - the fact is HE IS THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF and bears the responsibility when things screw up (see, again, Bill Clinton and Black Hawk Down) whether he wants to or not. The EASY call for Obama would have been to let the pirates get to Somalia and say "There's nothing I can do about it; we never had a realistic chance of saving Captain Phillips on the high seas and now he's in a country where 240 some odd hostages from OTHER NATIONS are also being held, what can we do except appeal to the UN?"
I think that was a tough call for Obama to make and I'm glad he made it. Maybe he'll be more likely to use military force, when appropriate, now that he's seen how well it can work out when he let's the Military do their thing.

746 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:22:12am

re: #735 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know how many here went to see the film "Watchmen," or read the graphic novel when it came out something like 15-20 years ago. But the culminating moment in it is when one of the superhero characters creates a huge disaster in New York, killing millions, in order to unite people through catastrophe.

"Watchmen" was very popular when it first came out--popular enough to have a film made of it all these years later. I have to wonder whether the faked disaster of "Watchmen" laid the mental foundations for the 9/11 truth movement.

Never saw it (and wouldn't have anyway) and never heard of it .. however, from your description, it's an interesting hypothesis. Hmmm.

747 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:22:13am

re: #730 Pietr

Worcester,Mass.-Ft Devens.....always fun in winter! I went thru a school at Ft Devens from Nov '73 thru Feb '74; I got a lot of snow time in while there. Enjoyed hanging out at a couple of spots off post, but couldn't tell ya' there names anymore-too much time has passed....:>))

I live near the former Fort Devens, now just "Devens". There is still some Reserve activity there, but that's it.
Probably most of the places you went to went out of business or drastically changed after the base closed.

748 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:22:27am

re: #742 aussiemagpie

Oh dear! You're allowed to grin now while I will get some tissues to wipe my tears :-(

Three quick wickets was not in the script....

Maybe not yours. The one I wrote tho.....:)

749 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:23:16am

re: #737 Lincolntf

I love Worcester chat. That was the Blizzard of '78, right? I remember school being cancelled for at least a week and snowdrifts lasting until June. Good times. Oh, and Higgins Armory is amazing. I used to go every Wednesday instead of school in the 5th and 6th grade. Great place.

I was in grad school in 78, so this was a smaller blizzard a couple of years earlier.

750 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:23:16am

Quoting a quote from a soldier from Drew M. at Ace of Spades HQ regarding the premier of the new Star Trek prequel--in Kuwait

The cast went out of their way to entertain us before and after the movie was shown. They were more than happy to interact with the soldiers (Eric Bana leaped out of his “reserved” seat and sat next to a female soldier who invited him next to her) and they took their time describing their experiences making the film and answering questions and requests (Quinto obliged a soldier who asked him to call his daughter back in the states and say hello to her). I was truly impressed and grateful in the fact that they went out of their way to thank us and to offer this film to us. I’ll admit that this review won’t be as objective as it could because of the way the cast lent themselves to us. My biggest thrill was walking up to J.J. Abrams after the film and having the opportunity to give him my general impressions of it. How many times does a geek like me get a chance to do that?

751 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:23:19am

re: #733 aussiemagpie

And mobilise the feminist groups who will march and protest honour killings////////

* * * *
Try not to laugh: Fox reported earlier this am that ACORN will counter-protest Tea Parties across the country, on your federal dollar, since they are getting 6 billion to among other things, support Pres. Obama's porkulus bailout plans.

752 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:23:48am

re: #743 Iron Fist

It's not a religion of Peace. That isn't even really taqqiya. It is a deliberate mis-translation (as has, at times, been done in translations of the Bible, for the same basic reason; obscuring the truth). Islam is the Religion of Submission. It is really one of, if not the, most totalitarian ideology ever to be taught among men. Everyone is a slave of Allah. Why, then, shouldn't the slaves of Allah have their own slaves to lesson the burden of this life of sorrow?

All the way down to the bottom, with women and goats coming in last place.

I thought goats were at the top of the worship list?

753 KenJen  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:24:27am

re: #716 Kenneth

Im still laughing at that Hillary magazine cover photo you posted last week. I showed it to my boss and he thought it was real.

754 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:25:21am

re: #741 apachegunner

morning Pieter, I have a InfoOps mission at Devens in two weeks. place has changed greatly since you were there.


Let me know when you're going to be there. If I can find the time, we could get together, as I live only a town over.
Click on my nic and use safeemail.

755 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:25:31am

re: #739 midwestgak

Payne survives mortar attach in mogadishu.

SNL used to be a funny satirical show. 1970's. SNL now reflects the mindless, humorless, crassness of this generation. IMHO

* * * *
Hey hey hey,

Those Navy Seals and military ARE "this generation". Please don't paint all young Americans with that tacky broad brush.

Blame the producers & funders of crappy tv shows with political agendas.

756 vxbush  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:25:32am

re: #750 goddessoftheclassroom

Quoting a quote from a soldier from Drew M. at Ace of Spades HQ regarding the premier of the new Star Trek prequel--in Kuwait

Oh, a geek getting to talk to J.J. Abrams. That would be high on the list.

Morning, everyone. Doing installs, and getting ready to sing happy birthday to a coworker....

757 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:25:39am

re: #741 apachegunner

morning Pieter, I have a InfoOps mission at Devens in two weeks. place has changed greatly since you were there.

I can imagine! When I was there, it was for a Secure ASA school, and I was USAFSS-I imagine all those schools have been moved, or had mission changes by now. Oh, Good Morning back at ya', gunner.....

758 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:25:44am

re: #716 Kenneth Yes indeed. But if that lifeboat had been - oh, 150 meters out - I doubt that the order to fire would have been given. Since the Bainbridge was towing the lifeboat, all it required was that the snipers balance the Bainbridge's "bounces" with that of the lifeboat - not that that was easy - but at anything over 150 meters, methinks it would have been EXTREMELY difficult if not impossible.

759 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:25:59am

re: #743 Iron Fist

It's not a religion of Peace. That isn't even really taqqiya. It is a deliberate mis-translation (as has, at times, been done in translations of the Bible, for the same basic reason; obscuring the truth). Islam is the Religion of Submission. It is really one of, if not the, most totalitarian ideology ever to be taught among men. Everyone is a slave of Allah. Why, then, shouldn't the slaves of Allah have their own slaves to lesson the burden of this life of sorrow?

All the way down to the bottom, with women and goats coming in last place.

Thank you for these words, well said

760 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:26:01am

re: #745 realwest

Truth be told, he has all the responsibility for what happens. I don't doubt that, applies to every commander all the way up the chain.

I just believe he would not accept it as his.

I believe you are correct in that he'll be more likely to let the military do its job in the future as a result of this. Some of those missions will fail (sorry, real life, you and I both know that)... at that point we will find out how he either takes the blame or tries to shift it.

My money is on the latter... and he'll specifically torch the guys on the spot to cover his ass, it was their fault it went down bad.

761 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:26:10am

re: #751 alegrias

State-sponsored protests? We are beyond hope.

762 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:26:15am

re: #744 avanti

They air dropped in, then set up positions on the fan tail of the destroyer to finish off the pirates. No sneaking up on lifeboats involved.

Thanks. I had gotten the idea they set up nearer the boat. That's some shooting, with everything bobbing around.

763 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:27:06am

re: #752 Erik The Red

I thought goats were at the top of the worship list?

Only for Cubs fans...

764 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:27:25am
765 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:27:31am

re: #740 Kosh's Shadow

Higgins Armory has gotten bigger; they have the whole building now.
I need to go back there; it has been years.

Wow.

I have an ashtray from Worcester Presteel ("pressed steel", what the company was called back then) sitting on the desk here. It's a circular stamping, with an engraved 14th Century suit of armor in the center-bottom.

766 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:28:06am

re: #748 Erik The Red

Maybe not yours. The one I wrote tho.....:)

Good on your blokes anyway (I'm a very gracious person) :-)

BUT I hope our blokes get moving and not let those nasty South Africans win!//

767 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:28:06am

U.S. Military Considers Attacks on Somali Pirates’ Land Bases


[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

768 Achilles Tang  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:28:41am

re: #728 razorbacker

I'm curious about something. When it comes to a machine made thing like a handgun and relatively short range shooting, under highly controlled conditions, what kind of flaw can make one gun shoot worse than the best, other than perhaps ammo?

769 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:28:44am

re: #725 alegrias That's good ole run off at the mouth McKinney; no understanding of the fact that she was being highly critical of Obama! LOL!

770 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:28:53am

re: #755 alegrias

* * * *
Hey hey hey,

Those Navy Seals and military ARE "this generation". Please don't paint all young Americans with that tacky broad brush.

Blame the producers & funders of crappy tv shows with political agendas.

Point taken. Wasn't painting with a broad brush "all young Americans" with my comment. Focusing only on the SNL drivel.

771 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:29:45am

re: #765 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Wow.

I have an ashtray from Worcester Presteel ("pressed steel", what the company was called back then) sitting on the desk here. It's a circular stamping, with an engraved 14th Century suit of armor in the center-bottom.

Yes, I believe the company is no longer in business. It was the Higgins family that owned the company, though. (Their former house, on the WPI campus, would fit the medieval look much better, though, being in the Tudor style.)
Anyway, that's why the museum has the whole building.

772 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:30:17am

re: #767 Dustyvet

U.S. Military Considers Attacks on Somali Pirates’ Land Bases

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Morning Dusty!

Welcome to the "Lob some ALCMs" version of foreign policy (again). Million dollar missile to take out a $15 rubber boat/tent. Then apologize for any collateral damage.

What's old is new again.

773 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:30:51am

re: #752 Erik The Red

I thought goats were at the top of the worship list?

Ewe don't say.

774 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:31:12am
775 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:31:17am

re: #734 alegrias

Russia's strategy is to encourage regional problems to help tie up America. They seem to be helping Iran with air defenses just enough to make it too difficult for Israel to go it alone against the mullah's nuclear facilities. This will force the US to act, or at least actively help Israel. The result will be further damage to US support in the region.

776 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:31:21am

re: #751 alegrias

* * * *
Try not to laugh: Fox reported earlier this am that ACORN will counter-protest Tea Parties across the country, on your federal dollar, since they are getting 6 billion to among other things, support Pres. Obama's porkulus bailout plans.

So conservatives are NOT allowed to protest? That's just so wrong!

If the ACORN protests happen, there will be many really angry people out there

777 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:31:48am

re: #761 Lincolntf

State-sponsored protests? We are beyond hope.

* * * *
WE are NOT beyond hope.

If enough Americans get pissed off that federally paid people (ACORN) are paid to stand around like Code Pink and PETA, while Americans are taxed to pay for said people to stand around protesting, Americans will just say no.

778 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:32:41am

re: #767 Dustyvet

U.S. Military Considers Attacks on Somali Pirates’ Land Bases


[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

The military, yes.
Nothing in there about the White House's likely response.
/just sayin'

779 AmeriDan  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:33:03am

re: #773 Spare O'Lake

Ewe don't say.

I hope your not planning on goating over the cleverness of that pun.

/

780 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:33:05am

re: #762 Kosh's Shadow

Thanks. I had gotten the idea they set up nearer the boat. That's some shooting, with everything bobbing around.

The lifeboat was under tow and only 30 yards out, but with all the bobbing, still a great shot.

781 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:33:07am

re: #735 buzzsawmonkey

I have to wonder whether the faked disaster of "Watchmen" laid the mental foundations for the 9/11 truth movement.

Don't blame the movie. People were paranoid long before Hollywood came along.

782 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:33:46am
783 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:34:05am

re: #772 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning Dusty!

Welcome to the "Lob some ALCMs" version of foreign policy (again). Million dollar missile to take out a $15 rubber boat/tent. Then apologize for any collateral damage.

What's old is new again.

Morning LT...yuppers!


Somali insurgents fire mortars at visiting U.S. congressman

[Link: www.alertnet.org...]

784 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:34:07am

re: #769 realwest

That's good ole run off at the mouth McKinney; no understanding of the fact that she was being highly critical of Obama! LOL!

* * * *
Realwest, to be fair, I think the woman speaking on the line was an aide to Donald Payne, not Cynthia McKinney the crazy pol...

785 Tisto  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:34:37am

If this is the way the commander interpreted "imminent danger", then good on him:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

786 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:34:40am

re: #771 Kosh's Shadow

Yes, I believe the company is no longer in business. It was the Higgins family that owned the company, though. (Their former house, on the WPI campus, would fit the medieval look much better, though, being in the Tudor style.)
Anyway, that's why the museum has the whole building.

HUH? A family that wealthy with only a Tudor house?

/the pun thread commenceth

787 Mich-again  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:35:06am

re: #743 Iron Fist
There was a story in the local fishwrap over the weekend about a blind Muslim girl whose family would not allow her to have a guide dog, so she is trying the next best thing. A guide horse. Yep a horse. Oh its a mini-horse about 3 feet high, but still I wouldn't want the thing dropping road apples in the aisle at the store.

The worst part is after the initial story, the paper removed the detail about how their Muslim faith prevented them from allowing a guide dog into the family. They changed it to a line about how the horse was a better match for their culture.

And then they tried to pass off the 3 foot high horse as weighing 125 pounds. Ha. My arse. Maybe 125 kg.

I give the young lady a lot of credit for wanting her independence. But brickbats for her parents who put their cult above their daughter.

788 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:35:11am

re: #773 Spare O'Lake

Ewe don't say.

Oh that was very baaaaaaaaaaaaddddddddddddddd...:)

789 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:35:55am

re: #779 AmeriDan

I hope your not planning on goating over the cleverness of that pun.

/

I've feta few in my time.

790 FrogMarch  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:35:58am

re: #735 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know how many here went to see the film "Watchmen," or read the graphic novel when it came out something like 15-20 years ago. But the culminating moment in it is when one of the superhero characters creates a huge disaster in New York, killing millions, in order to unite people through catastrophe.

"Watchmen" was very popular when it first came out--popular enough to have a film made of it all these years later. I have to wonder whether the faked disaster of "Watchmen" laid the mental foundations for the 9/11 truth movement.

Where ever Hollywood can find confirmation of their paranoia.

791 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:35:59am

re: #760 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Well you certainly could be right LT, I have very little respect for Obama as a man, much less POTUS and CiC, let's hope we never have to find out.
But I still think he deserves props for doing the right thing yesterday.

792 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:36:25am

re: #769 realwest

That's good ole run off at the mouth McKinney; no understanding of the fact that she was being highly critical of Obama! LOL!

* * **
Realwest,

CORRECTION, my trusty rusty Congressional directory shows a Ms Kerry McKenney is Rep. Donald Payne's, multi-tasking Chief of Staff, Legislative Director and Press Person! (as of 2005)

793 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:36:54am

re: #791 realwest

Well you certainly could be right LT, I have very little respect for Obama as a man, much less POTUS and CiC, let's hope we never have to find out.
But I still think he deserves props for doing the right thing yesterday.

I'm not sure I'm ready to credit him with doing the right thing, but I am ready to credit him with not doing the wrong thing.

794 Wishing  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:37:00am

re: #768 Naso Tang

I'm curious about something. When it comes to a machine made thing like a handgun and relatively short range shooting, under highly controlled conditions, what kind of flaw can make one gun shoot worse than the best, other than perhaps ammo?

The shooter, of course.

795 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:37:07am
796 AmeriDan  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:37:22am

re: #789 Spare O'Lake

I've feta few in my time.

Now you're just milking it.

797 KenJen  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:37:36am

re: #777 alegrias

* * * *
WE are NOT beyond hope.

If enough Americans get pissed off that federally paid people (ACORN) are paid to stand around like Code Pink and PETA, while Americans are taxed to pay for said people to stand around protesting, Americans will just say no.

Just another great reason for Americans to cheat on their taxes. Present company excluded.

798 Macker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:38:07am

re: #727 AmeriDan

You may very well be an old fogey :), but your dead on target about the show sucking these days.

SNL's heyday is loooooooong gone! I haven't watched the show since Eddie Murphy was on it. Perhaps they should change the name to Saturday Night Undead?

799 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:38:07am

re: #764 Iron FistGood morning my friend - hey, just close your eyes at that point in the film! LOL!
And focus (surreptitiously if the GF is with you) on the full frontal female nudity!

800 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:38:33am

re: #782 buzzsawmonkey

It's an interesting work--or at least, I remember it as such when it first came out. It posits the existence of real, though decommissioned, superheroes in society. It's sort of like when the heroes in The Incredibles are driven underground; The Incredibles, in fact, owes a lot to Watchmen, though Watchmen is much darker.

In any event, society is going progressively to hell, and one of the decommissioned heroes concocts a faux alien which he blasts through a space-time continuum into NYC, with great destruction and great loss of life, with the allegedly noble purpose of causing a great external threat/disaster which will cause people to come together. His end-justifies-the-means philosophy is opposed by another of the characters, who is much more a moral absolutist--and, though the end-justifies-the-means philosophy is condemned, the absolutist is unsuccessful and dies.

Watchmen was very, very popular in the very geek circles that the Troofer movement sprang from. I have to wonder how much it influenced their belief system.

double-hmmmmm.

BTW, haven't found any place relatively close by which has "Sand Pebbles" on standard DVD (or VHS). Blu-Ray only. Still looking.

801 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:39:24am

re: #788 Dustyvet

Oh that was very baaaaaaaaaaaaddddddddddddddd...:)

Just had to throw a match at that gas leak, didn't you?

802 Macker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:39:27am

re: #792 alegrias

* * **
Realwest,

CORRECTION, my trusty rusty Congressional directory shows a Ms Kerry McKenney is Rep. Donald Payne's, multi-tasking Chief of Staff, Legislative Director and Press Person! (as of 2005)

It'll be only a matter of time before good ol' Cynthia rants off about a Navy massacre of the poor Somalis!

803 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:39:34am

re: #786 pre-Boomer Marine brat

HUH? A family that wealthy with only a Tudor house?

/the pun thread commenceth

Maybe the kitchen was big enough to feed Henry VIII.

804 AmeriDan  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:40:17am

re: #798 Macker

Saturday Night Lame

805 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:40:37am

re: #800 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I bought a copy on Ebay, at a real nice price...check there...:)

806 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:40:45am

re: #751 alegrias

* * * *
Try not to laugh: Fox reported earlier this am that ACORN will counter-protest Tea Parties across the country, on your federal dollar, since they are getting 6 billion to among other things, support Pres. Obama's porkulus bailout plans.

Just a small correction, ACORN is not in any of the stimulus bills, nor are they getting 6 billion dollars. The best thing the left could ignore the parties, the best the right can do is keep the wacko's out.

ACORN.

807 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:40:50am
808 Macker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:40:59am

re: #804 AmeriDan

Saturday Night Lame

That'll work too!

809 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:40:59am

re: #802 Macker

It'll be only a matter of time before good ol' Cynthia rants off about a Navy massacre of the poor Somalis!

Especially since Ms McKinney was funded in her runs for the House by ROP types, every time.....:>O

810 onslow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:41:06am
811 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:41:22am

If Obama does this, and does not relegate it to some amorphous "internationa force' of do-nothing countries, then he'll have earned some respect from me.
Hit 'em where they live

812 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:41:33am

re: #767 Dustyvet
Good morning Dusty! Great pick up on that report. If Obama actually goes through with it I'll be AMAZED!
How are ya today?

813 Macker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:41:59am

re: #807 buzzsawmonkey

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

814 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:42:03am

re: #807 buzzsawmonkey

If it was a true Tudor house, it would have a thatched roof, so it wouldn't be a Tudor hardtop.

Uh oh...

815 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:42:30am

re: #807 buzzsawmonkey

If it was a true Tudor house, it would have a thatched roof, so it wouldn't be a Tudor hardtop.

Ha.
Well, it is somewhat of a manor house.
More on the house here.

816 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:42:32am

re: #787 Mich-again

There was a story in the local fishwrap over the weekend about a blind Muslim girl whose family would not allow her to have a guide dog, so she is trying the next best thing. A guide horse. Yep a horse. Oh its a mini-horse about 3 feet high, but still I wouldn't want the thing dropping road apples in the aisle at the store.

The worst part is after the initial story, the paper removed the detail about how their Muslim faith prevented them from allowing a guide dog into the family. They changed it to a line about how the horse was a better match for their culture.

And then they tried to pass off the 3 foot high horse as weighing 125 pounds. Ha. My arse. Maybe 125 kg.

I give the young lady a lot of credit for wanting her independence. But brickbats for her parents who put their cult above their daughter.


'
Goodness! A horse instead of a guide dog?

That story just highlights what is so wrong with the cult of Islam and also how our very fair attitude enables the spread of religious ignorance in our culture

817 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:43:18am

re: #770 midwestgak

Point taken. Wasn't painting with a broad brush "all young Americans" with my comment. Focusing only on the SNL drivel.

* * *
Trust me, I have healthy respect for SNL's Lorne Michaels whose actors & writers mocked, degraded and dumbed down the image Gov. Sarah Palin, putting the words "I can Russia from my house!" into the lexicon, while they made Hillary Clinton out to be a stateswoman!

818 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:43:30am

re: #812 realwest

Good morning Dusty! Great pick up on that report. If Obama actually goes through with it I'll be AMAZED!
How are ya today?

I was doing fine till some twit woke me up with a phone call...:( How's you and Mom doing? Hope you had a great Easter.

819 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:43:56am

Would Some1 point out to Avanti, the line in the Porkulus pkgs where it authorized BILLIONS to Community Organizations-without naming ACORN specifically. I'd do it, but I have him on GAZE.........

820 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:44:03am

re: #803 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe the kitchen was big enough to feed Henry VIII.

Anne the hallway long enough for Boleyn.

821 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:44:15am

re: #816 aussiemagpie

5 down. c&b Steyn. :)

822 jcbunga  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:44:45am

Very happy about the pirates here in cloudy Northern Virginia...that'll learn 'em to bring their people on ships with guns within range of our people on ships with guns.

Does this mean they're hiring?

823 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:44:50am

re: #820 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Anne the hallway long enough for Boleyn.

Very nice!

824 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:45:13am

re: #777 alegrias

* * * *
WE are NOT beyond hope.

If enough Americans get pissed off that federally paid people (ACORN) are paid to stand around like Code Pink and PETA, while Americans are taxed to pay for said people to stand around protesting, Americans will just say no.


Yep. And I think even the Dem controlled Congress
would be loathe, at that point, to change the laws already on the books about who conducts the Census (btw, right now it's Congress).

825 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:45:24am

I put a birthday card (of sorts ;-) in the spinoffs for Charles if y'all care to ding or sign it.

826 NYCHardhat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:45:32am

Happy Birthday Charles.

Thank you for what you have done.

827 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:45:39am

re: #821 Erik The Red

5 down. c&b Steyn. :)

*Weeping now*

828 AmeriDan  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:45:46am

re: #818 Dustyvet

was doing fine till some twit woke me up with a phone call...:(

Hey Dusty, I called earlier and left a message. :)

829 Macker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:46:02am

re: #816 aussiemagpie

Can they actually train a guide horse to NOT take a dump in a store?

830 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:46:17am

Later lizards... play nice.

831 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:46:32am

re: #784 alegrias Ah!
Crap.
:)

832 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:46:40am

re: #819 Pietr

Would Some1 point out to Avanti, the line in the Porkulus pkgs where it authorized BILLIONS to Community Organizations-without naming ACORN specifically. I'd do it, but I have him on GAZE.........

Not me. Same as you. Though he has gotten a very rare up ding from me in the last day or two.

833 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:46:40am

re: #820 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Anne the hallway long enough for Boleyn.

834 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:47:04am

re: #829 Macker

Depends

835 razorbacker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:47:10am

re: #768 Naso Tang

I'm curious about something. When it comes to a machine made thing like a handgun and relatively short range shooting, under highly controlled conditions, what kind of flaw can make one gun shoot worse than the best, other than perhaps ammo?

Sorry, not ignoring you, phone rang.

I'm not a gunsmith, but from what they tell me it is primarily a matter of making absolutely sure that all parts are machined slick and smooth, and that everything mates up tight, with no 'wiggle room'.

That's where the hand-fitting comes in. And that's why they're soooo expensive.

But ammo is important. That's why you want to shoot the same brand all the time, for the consistant results.

That's also why, for the average Joe, at some point you just have to say that good enough is good enough.

836 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:47:48am

re: #819 Pietr

Avanti is willfully blind on this subject. Obama campaigned on the promise of sending massive amounts of money to "community groups" like ACORN (which has become an umbrella group for every group of Lefty professional protesters). He promised it, he did it. ACORN will get billions of dollars directly because they are Obama's base. Obama doesn't deny it, only Avanti does.

837 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:47:59am

re: #825 littleoldlady

I put a birthday card (of sorts ;-) in the spinoffs for Charles if y'all care to ding or sign it.

That is excellent lol :)

838 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:48:11am

re: #797 KenJen

Just another great reason for Americans to cheat on their taxes. Present company excluded.

* * *
You know capital flight & tax evasion's going to be one unfortunate consequence of oppressive taxation. Bartering, under the table payments, etc...

839 NYCHardhat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:48:35am
840 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:48:49am

re: #829 Macker

Can they actually train a guide horse to NOT take a dump in a store?

The horse would have to wear some knickers I think...

841 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:49:16am

re: #805 Dustyvet

I bought a copy on Ebay, at a real nice price...check there...:)

Thanks, but I only want to rent it. Several weeks ago, Buzz asked me to gird my loins and watch it, then give him my opinion of the accuracy of its depiction of the era. He already knew I wouldn't watch it otherwise, because of the underlying anti-military tone of the script and production.

842 AmeriDan  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:50:12am

re: #825 littleoldlady

I put a birthday card (of sorts ;-) in the spinoffs for Charles if y'all care to ding or sign it.

Done.

Good morning Lady.

843 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:50:59am

re: #842 AmeriDan

Danny! :-)

/I'm only here for a few more comments...

844 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:51:19am

re: #795 buzzsawmonkey

The book is something a lot of Troofers would have read in their formative years...


I don't think any book (or movie) would shape a someone's thinking in that way. What it would do is re-enforce or provide material content for an already pre-existing condition. The paranoia, splitting & projection rampant among troofers is consistent with a personality disorder.

845 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:51:47am

re: #778 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The military, yes.
Nothing in there about the White House's likely response.
/just sayin'

Since FCBBHO is the commander in chief, wouldn't the military's planning be done at his order?

846 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:51:50am

re: #798 Macker

SNL's heyday is loooooooong gone! I haven't watched the show since Eddie Murphy was on it. Perhaps they should change the name to Saturday Night Undead?

* * * *
With YOUTUBE, skits such as those making fun of Governor Sarah Palin go VIRAL, and thus remain UNDEAD!

Unfortunately SNL's writers and actors can be very effective at their political objective, making fun of a successful elected conservative former mayor and governor whose state is closest to Russia itself, and who chose to keep her Down Syndrome baby instead of kill it.

847 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:51:52am

re: #825 littleoldlady

I put a birthday card (of sorts ;-) in the spinoffs for Charles if y'all care to ding or sign it.

dinged and signed.
Great idea!

848 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:52:05am

re: #807 buzzsawmonkey

If it was a true Tudor house, it would have a thatched roof, so it wouldn't be a Tudor hardtop.

york york york!

/was that one of the 3 Stooges?

849 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:52:15am
850 AmeriDan  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:52:46am

re: #843 littleoldlady

Danny! :-)

/I'm only here for a few more comments...

A few from you is more than enough to get me through the day.

;)

851 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:52:55am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that the pirates are pissed that the US Navy smoked three of their fellow thugs. Too bad. So sad.

These pirates attacked shipping and we're all supposed to play along with their game of ransom? Sorry, but we're not playing by their rules any longer. This is a situation that should have been addressed long ago, when the first ships came under attack.

The attacks on shipping were tolerated for far too long; the pirates didn't feel consequences of their actions except in their pocketbooks as the ransoms were paid. Now, they're seeking the real risk and consequences of their actions - dead pirates.

They vow revenge after the US killed three pirates (but not after the French killed several in rescuing hostages over the weekend in an operation of their own). Curious. The pirates say that they're going to treat crews differently now because of the US action. They're simply making excuses for their actions, and couldn't care less about the crews.

It's past time for the world to impose order on Somalia and deal with the pirate bases once and for all.

852 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:52:56am

re: #825 littleoldlady

Mission Accomplished, LoL....And Good Morning-sorry I missed fruitcup...:>))

853 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:52:59am

re: #806 avanti
From your link: "Sister organization ACORN Housing Corp. has developed some housing in several cities, but it also has never done any foreclosure work.

"We theoretically could apply," said Richard Hayes, director of strategic projects for ACORN Housing. "But we would have to compete like everyone else. There is no guarantee we would be chosen."
Of course putting the on your application the President of the United States as a reference wouldn't help much, I guess.

854 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:53:20am

re: #823 goddessoftheclassroom

Very nice!

*grin*
MWAH!
Thanks.

855 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:53:26am

re: #793 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm not sure I'm ready to credit him with doing the right thing, but I am ready to credit him with not doing the wrong thing.


Yes.

Much ado about Obama. The military did all the hard stuff. Imo, he made an easy call.

856 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:53:59am

re: #806 avanti

Just a small correction, ACORN is not in any of the stimulus bills, nor are they getting 6 billion dollars. The best thing the left could ignore the parties, the best the right can do is keep the wacko's out.

ACORN.

* * * *
Thank you for providing ACORN'S perspective. Last I checked, they were going house to house advocating for Pres. Obama's budget & spending plans, are on track to "work" the US Census, and otherwise, continue "community organizing" as they are directed to do by democrats.

857 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:54:32am

re: #848 pre-Boomer Marine brat

york york york!

/was that one of the 3 Stooges?

Why did Henry VIII have so many wives ? He liked to chop and change !

858 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:55:04am

re: #847 reine.de.tout

Hiya reine! :-)

Can you give me the link to the LGF cookbook? Another lizard tried one of my recipes and she liked it, so I'm ready to share. ;-)

859 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:55:37am

re: #845 MandyManners

The planning happens as a matter of course in any mission. The Sec-Def would direct priorities and lay out policy. As CinC, Obama might be asked to approve certain missions. At most, Obama decided not to get in the way. And good for him on that point. However, if the rescue operation had screwed up, I wonder if the White House would have been so quick top take credit.

860 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:55:56am

re: #818 Dustyvet LOL! I hope it was someone you wanted to talk to, even at an early hour!
We had a fine Easter thanks, I'm just starting to get anxious about my cancer test coming up on Wednesday (results on Thursday) but I'm NOT neeerrrrrvvvoooous at all about it!

861 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:56:18am

re: #825 littleoldlady

I put a birthday card (of sorts ;-) in the spinoffs for Charles if y'all care to ding or sign it.

Done!

Absolutely GREAT graphic!
Kudos!

862 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:56:35am

re: #858 littleoldlady

Hiya reine! :-)

Can you give me the link to the LGF cookbook? Another lizard tried one of my recipes and she liked it, so I'm ready to share. ;-)

Click my nic.

863 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:56:56am

re: #806 avanti

Just a small correction, ACORN is not in any of the stimulus bills, nor are they getting 6 billion dollars. The best thing the left could ignore the parties, the best the right can do is keep the wacko's out.

ACORN.

* * * *
Lastly, don't be disingenuous. Pres. Obama is a former Community Organizer, which is what AC.O.RN is, so don't pretend there's no there there.

864 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:56:58am

re: #836 Lincolntf

Avanti is willfully blind on this subject. Obama campaigned on the promise of sending massive amounts of money to "community groups" like ACORN (which has become an umbrella group for every group of Lefty professional protesters). He promised it, he did it. ACORN will get billions of dollars directly because they are Obama's base. Obama doesn't deny it, only Avanti does.

I am not the one blind on the issue, you believe what you like in the face of facts to the country. Look, the post I was trying to correct said 6 billion was going to ACORN. I had a problem with that on several levels.

1. There is not even 6 billion in the bill.
2. The money in the bill that ACORN could possibly tap is in the millions
3. ACORN has never done that type of housing work, nor asked for that funding.
4. Not a penny has gone to ACORN yet.
5. If ACORN gets any money, we'll know about it.

If the post would have said Acorn organizers that possibly could qualify for some money it would be accurate. More detail here.

865 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:57:17am

re: #851 lawhawk


It's past time for the world to impose order on Somalia and deal with the pirate bases once and for all.

I really don't want America leading this effort. The last time we tried something similar with a feckless president, it didn't turn out so well.

866 bosforus  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:57:36am

re: #655 Pietr

MSNBC has a compilation of BO praise here; the link that I clicked was titled 'first 100 days-a daring rescue'....Sheesh:

BO the rescuer

Perhaps Obama didn't name Bo after himself but rather Michelle - BiOtch!

867 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:58:00am

pre-Boomer Marine brat! :-)

I'm a good googler.

/and if I ever manage to get a new computer, I may even become a good Photoshopper. ;-)

868 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:58:05am

re: #860 realwest

LOL! I hope it was someone you wanted to talk to, even at an early hour!
We had a fine Easter thanks, I'm just starting to get anxious about my cancer test coming up on Wednesday (results on Thursday) but I'm NOT neeerrrrrvvvoooous at all about it!

Your in my prayers and I hope that goes well for you.

869 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:58:20am

re: #825 littleoldlady
Hey there {littleoldlady} what a nice thing to do! Thank you - hope you and yours are doing well?!

870 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:58:31am

re: #845 MandyManners

Since FCBBHO is the commander in chief, wouldn't the military's planning be done at his order?

No.

The military does this sort of thing all the time. It's part of their job to be prepared.

871 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:58:56am

re: #862 reine.de.tout

DUH.

Thanks! :-)

872 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:59:15am

re: #845 MandyManners

Since FCBBHO is the commander in chief, wouldn't the military's planning be done at his order?

The military makes plans all the time. The okay to execute a given plan comes from the top

873 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 7:59:52am

re: #869 realwest

{realwest}!

We're hangin' in! GREAT to see you! :-)

874 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:00:13am

As most of you know, I keep the Lizard Prayer list.
I just read the following at NRO, and I thought I'd post it for those who might be interest:

Praying like you have never prayed before.

875 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:00:34am

re: #819 Pietr

Would Some1 point out to Avanti, the line in the Porkulus pkgs where it authorized BILLIONS to Community Organizations-without naming ACORN specifically. I'd do it, but I have him on GAZE.........

* * * *
Thank you--he's doing a riff on the Clintonian tactic of debating "what the meaning of is is" with respect to ACORN/community organizing and it's greatest exponent, Pres. Obama.

876 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:00:48am

re: #845 MandyManners

re: #872 sattv4u2

The military makes plans all the time. The okay to execute a given plan comes from the top

FURTHER ,,, there are plans for many scenarios that never reach the top, In other words, the CiC doesn;'t see everything, just things plans that are needed at a given time

877 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:00:55am

re: #860 realwest

LOL! I hope it was someone you wanted to talk to, even at an early hour!
We had a fine Easter thanks, I'm just starting to get anxious about my cancer test coming up on Wednesday (results on Thursday) but I'm NOT neeerrrrrvvvoooous at all about it!

{realwest}
Prayers, of course...

878 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:00:57am

25,000!

My work is done... ;-)

879 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:01:16am

re: #823 goddessoftheclassroom

Very nice!

Thanks, but it's only Parr for the course.

880 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:01:17am

re: #858 littleoldlady
Hey there {littleoldlady} other than updinging your spinoff is there any other way to "sign" that card?!

881 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:01:49am

re: #853 realwest

From your link: "Sister organization ACORN Housing Corp. has developed some housing in several cities, but it also has never done any foreclosure work.

"We theoretically could apply,"

I agree, ACORN theoretically could apply for some of the millions for housing in the 4 billion dollar bill, but could you grant me that does not translate to the "ACORN gets 6 billion" that I attempted to correct ?

882 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:01:58am

re: #880 realwest

realwest,

People are leaving comments.

883 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:02:33am
884 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:03:10am

Q: What would king Henry VIII be doing if he was alive right now?


A: Scratching at the lid of his coffin of course!

885 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:03:12am

I just looked at the ACORN homepage. They have their fingers in every pie imaginable. They are trying to advance their political agenda by inveigling themselves into Fed funding troughs on issues as diverse as Gulf Coast Recovery and "Living Wage" legislation. Of course their headquarters is in New Orleans, where corruption is the right way, the wrong way and the only way.

886 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:03:31am

re: #865 Russkilitlover

I really don't want America leading this effort. The last time we tried something similar with a feckless president, it didn't turn out so well.

I'm well aware of that, but the failure to act leads to even worse scenarios. Failed states are terror breeders; Somalia being a big one.

The failure to deal with Somalia was a big reason cited by bin Laden in going after the US; the Black Hawk Down incident and the way the US cut and run from the battle instead of carrying through on the mission suggested that instead of showing restraint, the US was weak and could be defeated.

Doing nothing enables the terrorists to build their infrastructure and recruit. Taking the fight to Somalia wont be pretty, but it is going to be necessary sooner or later. Years of allowing Somalia to limp along as a failed state will come back to haunt the world, just as surely the situation in Afghanistan and the Pakistani tribal regions have done.

887 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:03:55am

re: #880 realwest

*SMOOCH* G'day {realwest}!

888 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:03:57am

re: #860 realwest

{real}
You will be fine!

889 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:04:07am

re: #884 Dustyvet

Q: What would king Henry VIII be doing if he was alive right now?

A: Scratching at the lid of his coffin of course!

LOL!

890 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:04:44am
891 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:04:44am

re: #819 Pietr

Would Some1 point out to Avanti, the line in the Porkulus pkgs where it authorized BILLIONS to Community Organizations-without naming ACORN specifically. I'd do it, but I have him on GAZE.........


This looks like a cultural revolution, paid for by the Middle Class that is being overthrown.

892 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:04:48am

re: #881 avanti

I agree, ACORN theoretically could apply for some of the millions for housing in the 4 billion dollar bill, but could you grant me that does not translate to the "ACORN gets 6 billion" that I attempted to correct ?

Follow this logic.
FACT :There are billions to be given to "community organiozations" for housing
FACT : ACORN is one of the, if not THE largest and best organized "community organization"

You do the math

893 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:04:54am
894 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:05:13am

re: #878 littleoldlady
NOOOooooo! It's just BEGUN!

895 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:05:24am

re: #840 aussiemagpie

The horse would have to wear some knickers I think...

There was a story recently on the news here, about a woman who lives in Fort Worth. She's legally blind, and has a brittle bone disease, so she can't walk for long distances. She has an assistance horse (a full-size horse), and she rides it several miles for different errands (the horse takes her, as it's memorized routes). In the story on TV, the horse took her to the grocery store, and ducked his head (she ducked, too) to go in through the automatic doors.

Here we go; Tabitha Darling, and "Trixie".

896 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:05:27am

re: #874 goddessoftheclassroom

Wow, what a great story. Thank you for posting the link.

897 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:05:37am

Here's another oxymoron:

the Muammar Qaddafi Human Rights Prize - with past recipients including French Holocaust denier Roger Garaudy, Fidel Castro, and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.


From an article on how groups are planning another NGO hatefest before Durban II, even though the last one disgusted even the UN so much that they aren't planning an official one.

898 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:05:51am

re: #880 realwest

Hey there {littleoldlady} other than updinging your spinoff is there any other way to "sign" that card?!

Post a comment rw.

899 razorbacker  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:05:53am

Ten o'clock. Already wasted the better part of the day.

I'd better get up and hit it again, or else I'll have wasted another day chattering away with youse guys.

See y'all later. I'll be checking in from time to time, as always.

900 jdog29  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:05:57am

re: #851 lawhawk

We can just say, "We believed you when you threatened to kill our citizens."

And yeah we need to lay the "Pax Romana" on them something fierce.

901 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:06:06am

re: #878 littleoldlady

1,000 to 1 on linkies... can't complain :P

902 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:06:32am

re: #894 realwest

I was talking about TODAY, actually. ;-)

/besides that, A WOMAN'S WORK IS NEVER DONE!

903 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:06:38am

re: #882 littleoldlady
At the card sight? My copy shows "no comments"!?

904 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:06:40am

re: #891 opnion

This looks like a cultural revolution, paid for by the Middle Class that is being overthrown.

I wish I'd thought to say that! Excellent summary :-)

905 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:07:02am
906 vxbush  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:07:27am

re: #874 goddessoftheclassroom

As most of you know, I keep the Lizard Prayer list.
I just read the following at NRO, and I thought I'd post it for those who might be interest:

Praying like you have never prayed before.

Fantastic.

907 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:07:43am

re: #887 aussiemagpie
Hey {aussie} *smooch* back at you! Thanks!

908 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:08:14am

re: #904 aussiemagpie

I wish I'd thought to say that! Excellent summary :-)


Thanx

909 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:08:18am

re: #880 realwest

Hey there {littleoldlady} other than updinging your spinoff is there any other way to "sign" that card?!

Leave a comment in the thread.

910 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:08:38am

Here's the story on the Obamas' dog, and the breeder in Wise County (where my SiL lives) that sold him to the DWI killer.

Obama girls new puppy from Wise County

911 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:08:43am

re: #888 VioletTiger
Thanks {VioletTiger} but if I do, it'll be the first time in the last 15 months that I haven't tested worse than the last time.
Crap.

912 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:08:48am

re: #860 realwest

{Realwest} Prayers to you and positive thoughts sent your way. I don't post much due to a medical condition, but I do try to keep up with LGF and always keep my favorite Lizards in my prayers.

My first Oncology appointment is next week and I am terrified.

913 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:09:14am

re: #901 Karridine

1,000 to 1 on linkies... can't complain :P

If it were the opposite I'd have jammiewearingfool downdinging every one of them! ;-)

/addicted to READING the spinoffs
//also LAZY - I let other people post them ;-)

914 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:10:25am

re: #885 Lincolntf

I just looked at the ACORN homepage. They have their fingers in every pie imaginable. They are trying to advance their political agenda by inveigling themselves into Fed funding troughs on issues as diverse as Gulf Coast Recovery and "Living Wage" legislation. Of course their headquarters is in New Orleans, where corruption is the right way, the wrong way and the only way.

I'm not a fan of ACORN, nor most of their agenda. Having said that, I'm still not in favor of making up facts to attack them, there is plenty of real dirt to sort through about the way they operate. When it comes to the tea parties, ACORN may not be the conservitives biggest problem, but can sure divert attention from the risks of some of the extremest right wing groups attending.

915 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:10:31am

re: #892 sattv4u2
God morning. Add one other:

FACT: First reference on their resume/application is President of the United States, Barack Obama.

916 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:10:49am

re: #855 VioletTiger

Yes.

Much ado about Obama. The military did all the hard stuff. Imo, he made an easy call.

Military made it happened. Military did the work. Obama gets the credit because his is the Commander in Chief. Sorry, a sock puppet in chief. Could the media give accolades more generously/erroneously?

917 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:11:31am

re: #893 Iron Fist

One thing I've noticed from afar - this Obama presidency has really magnified the divisions in your country

How long before the silent majority wakes up?

Or is there no longer that silent majority?

918 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:11:36am

"Making Marriage Work by Henry VIII"

919 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:11:47am

re: #903 realwest

At the card sight? My copy shows "no comments"!?

On the righthand side of the link, under "General" "♥" and "!" there's a blue number. (Says 18, for now.) Click on the number.

920 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:12:22am

re: #874 goddessoftheclassroom

As most of you know, I keep the Lizard Prayer list.
I just read the following at NRO, and I thought I'd post it for those who might be interest:

Praying like you have never prayed before.

Gave me chills. And a tear or two.

921 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:12:51am

re: #912 Fluffy Bunny

{Realwest} Prayers to you and positive thoughts sent your way. I don't post much due to a medical condition, but I do try to keep up with LGF and always keep my favorite Lizards in my prayers.

My first Oncology appointment is next week and I am terrified.

Fluffy Bunny, what's the diagnosis you've received? My wife is a three-year survivor of inflammatory breast cancer (IBC). We've been through it all, from chemo, to double mastectomy, then more chemo, then radiation, then reconstruction.

922 ConservatismNow!  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:13:34am

Oh! I was so worked up yesterday by the r-tard in my online humanities class that I forgot to tell you guys what I did. Instead of baking our Easter ham, I smoked it. It was GLORIOUS! And the best part is that I've got leftovers for today and tomorrow.

923 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:13:41am

re: #881 avanti

I agree, ACORN theoretically could apply for some of the millions for housing in the 4 billion dollar bill, but could you grant me that does not translate to the "ACORN gets 6 billion" that I attempted to correct ?

ACORN related entities get community grant monies; the exact amounts of which depends on where in the country you're talking about. NYC has a budget line for ACORN housing, the balance of which was $250,000 in FY2008). Such amounts are typically hidden inside the Departmental budgets - in this case HPD. NY State aid also provides several line for ACORN in the FY 2009-2010 budget. You just have to know where to look (think member items).

You aren't always going to find a clear budget line for ACORN in any city budget anywhere; that's not how it usually works. It's usually a program item within specific departments, which makes it difficult to tally up exactly how much money nationally ACORN takes in.

ACORN is going to get porkfest monies. The only question is just how much and why this radical organization should be getting money in the first place.

ACORN is now providing mortgage counseling, which means that it is in line to get even more funding as a result of the porkfest (again, the exact amount is unknown).

924 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:13:46am

re: #918 Dustyvet

"Making Marriage Work by Henry VIII"

Sprinkled with cutting humor.

925 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:14:06am
926 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:14:34am

re: #912 Fluffy Bunny
In spite of what I said, please don't be terrified. It's your first visit to the Oncologist and it may turn out that you are ok and if not that there's something they can do to make you ok.
Seriously - being anxious is understandable, but don't be terrified. And if you want someone to chat with, my nic's in blue!

927 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:14:42am

re: #860 realwest

LOL! I hope it was someone you wanted to talk to, even at an early hour!
We had a fine Easter thanks, I'm just starting to get anxious about my cancer test coming up on Wednesday (results on Thursday) but I'm NOT neeerrrrrvvvoooous at all about it!

Missed this post, so {realwest} thinking of you and I'll be thinking of you on Thursday/Wednesday :-)

928 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:15:11am

I KNOW how the military works. What I'm saying is that the success/failure of every action will be laid at FCBBHO's feet so, in essence, those plans are his.

929 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:15:12am

re: #925 taxfreekiller

dodge
weave
change the subjet

"How 'bout that Masters yesterday?"

/

930 VegasRick  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:15:47am

Can we call them terrorists yet?
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

931 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:16:33am

re: #910 Ward Cleaver

Here's the story on the Obamas' dog, and the breeder in Wise County (where my SiL lives) that sold him to the DWI killer.

Obama girls new puppy from Wise County


Barf!

932 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:16:58am
933 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:17:06am

To further prove my point, ACORN funding in NY is sprinkled throughout the budget bills in multiple areas - not just housing, but in aid to localities (and the monies start to add up). Simply use the search term acorn, and see the $$$ add up.

934 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:17:12am

re: #921 Ward Cleaver

Hi Ward,

Diagnosed for a year with benign ovarian cysts, as of last week the bloodwork showed abnormalities and I recieved a call this morning that my doctor is sending me to an oncologist. Long story but surgery is deemed too risky. Thank you for your reply! : )

935 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:17:39am

re: #892 sattv4u2

Follow this logic.
FACT :There are billions to be given to "community organiozations" for housing
FACT : ACORN is one of the, if not THE largest and best organized "community organization"

You do the math

OK, why not state ACORN will get 100 billion of the 4 billion in the bill instead of just 6 billion using your math ? No one in there right mind thinks all of the 4 billion will be available to ACORN, and if even 1 percent does go to ACORN we'll know about it.
I'll drop the issue, it's silly to discuss possibilities until the first dime is budgeted. We can revisit it if ACORN gets funding later.

936 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:17:50am

re: #930 VegasRick

Can we call them terrorists yet?
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Answer them with daisy cutters.

937 Karridine  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:17:52am

Late Nite Update: TV reports "...a Red-Shirt SHOT somebody..."

Troops are still in the street (live ammo) and the surreal atmosphere has settled heavily on my neck and shoulders...

/streets nearly empty, reporters chirping about conditions in various regions of BKK

/Day Two of the Songkran Water Festival continues tomorrow, and I'll update on the first open thread, OT if really urgent...

Respect, People. My family THANKS you for prayers and inquiries...

We're nestled in the palm of the Lord...

938 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:17:59am

re: #912 Fluffy Bunny

{Realwest} Prayers to you and positive thoughts sent your way. I don't post much due to a medical condition, but I do try to keep up with LGF and always keep my favorite Lizards in my prayers.

My first Oncology appointment is next week and I am terrified.

{Fluffy Bunny}

939 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:18:15am

Good morning, Lizards. Still not able to join in the daily blogging, lately. I've downloaded IE 7 and it truly sucks...

Plus, the Passover holiday has kept me pretty occupied.

But, hey, happy birthday, Charles! And good luck with the move.

940 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:19:38am

re: #931 opnion

Barf!

Dirty Jobs did a bit on a place that makes raw dog food, called "Biologically Appropriate Raw Food"; various disgusting cow parts combined together. They have a "green tripe blend". I was very glad there was no smell-o-vision.

941 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:19:52am

re: #934 Fluffy Bunny

Hi Ward,

Diagnosed for a year with benign ovarian cysts, as of last week the bloodwork showed abnormalities and I recieved a call this morning that my doctor is sending me to an oncologist. Long story but surgery is deemed too risky. Thank you for your reply! : )

Prayers coming your way. Let us know what you find out. We have a wonderful oncologist; he's Colombian, and considered becoming a priest or a physicist, before going to medical school.

942 x-wing  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:20:14am

re: #925 taxfreekiller

dodge
weave
change the subjet

Gonna have to start wearing a neck brace when I read his posts. Last one damn near gave me whipash.

943 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:20:30am

re: #939 Golem Akbar

Good morning, Lizards. Still not able to join in the daily blogging, lately. I've downloaded IE 7 and it truly sucks...

Plus, the Passover holiday has kept me pretty occupied.

But, hey, happy birthday, Charles! And good luck with the move.

Use FireFox. That's what I primarily use on both Windows and Mac.

944 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:20:31am

I don't know who to say OY to first!

:-(

{[{Karridine}]}
{[{Fluffy Bunny}]}
{[{realwest}]}

945 VegasRick  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:20:36am

re: #936 Ward Cleaver

Answer them with daisy cutters.

I love that name!

946 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:21:11am

re: #935 avanti

and if even 1 percent does go to ACORN

I will bet you my 57 Chevy BelAir against 2 of your best Avantis that ACORN ends up with closer to 100% of the money than 1%

947 Wishing  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:21:47am

re: #825 littleoldlady

I put a birthday card (of sorts ;-) in the spinoffs for Charles if y'all care to ding or sign it.

You may have to post this throughout the day!
Thanks!

948 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:21:47am

re: #935 avanti

ACORN is already getting funding - through the states. ACORN has local chapters, which receive monies from the states and localities. You don't get one national figure because ACORN purposefully doesn't show what it takes in from the government dime.

Instead, you have to go digging (and in NY, I know where to look - just see my last two posts to see the two budget bills and the multiple lines therein devoted to ACORN funding). The federal porkfest for state aid is an appropriations line that is treated as a block grant for which the states will choose how to divide the monies up as per the fed rules on such. ACORN will get their funding through the states in the same fashion as they have to date.

However, now they'll get additional lines of funding to provide mortgage counseling - an area in which they never before received funding - again see my prior post on the funding.

949 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:21:59am

re: #940 Kosh's Shadow

Dirty Jobs did a bit on a place that makes raw dog food, called "Biologically Appropriate Raw Food"; various disgusting cow parts combined together. They have a "green tripe blend". I was very glad there was no smell-o-vision.

I never had a dog that liked raw food.

950 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:22:07am

re: #940 Kosh's Shadow

Dirty Jobs did a bit on a place that makes raw dog food, called "Biologically Appropriate Raw Food"; various disgusting cow parts combined together. They have a "green tripe blend". I was very glad there was no smell-o-vision.

We've bought some of that stuff (but a different brand). It comes frozen (think raw meat, frozen in an ice cube tray).

951 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:22:28am

re: #939 Golem Akbar

Good morning, Lizards. Still not able to join in the daily blogging, lately. I've downloaded IE 7 and it truly sucks...

Plus, the Passover holiday has kept me pretty occupied.

But, hey, happy birthday, Charles! And good luck with the move.


re: #825 littleoldlady

I put a birthday card (of sorts ;-) in the spinoffs for Charles if y'all care to ding or sign it.

Didya find and sign the card, GA?

952 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:22:42am
953 Digital Display  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:22:51am

re: #944 littleoldlady

I don't know who to say OY to first!

:-(

{[{Karridine}]}
{[{Fluffy Bunny}]}
{[{realwest}]}


Good Morning little old lady..Hope today finds you well!
Happy Birthday Charles

954 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:23:06am

re: #937 Karridine

Late Nite Update: TV reports "...a Red-Shirt SHOT somebody..."

Troops are still in the street (live ammo) and the surreal atmosphere has settled heavily on my neck and shoulders...

/streets nearly empty, reporters chirping about conditions in various regions of BKK

/Day Two of the Songkran Water Festival continues tomorrow, and I'll update on the first open thread, OT if really urgent...

Respect, People. My family THANKS you for prayers and inquiries...

We're nestled in the palm of the Lord...


Thank you for your updates during the day, be safe Karridine and family

955 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:23:06am

"Bride, please put your hand on the table."
"Now, Groom, please lay your hand on top of your bride's."
"Very good. I want everyone to witness this touching moment. Groom, I also want you to enjoy it... because this is the last time you will ever have the upper hand."

956 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:23:21am

Oh, and once a community group gets funding as a member item or a budget item in NY, it invariably continues getting funding ad infinitum. I can barely recall any groups whose funding was cut off unless that member did something to cross Shelly Silver or ex-Joe Bruno (which hardly happens because everyone knows who the power brokers are in the state legislature in NY).

957 johnnyreb  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:23:21am

re: #706 saylorfam

I am not at all happy as to how this Pirate affair was handled. It took far longer to resolve that it ever should have. I am also pissed at reading the reports at how the Navy "turned Back" pirates who were coming out to help the other Pirates. Turned Back my ass, they should have been swimming back to shore with their vessels on the bottom.
Now the next step needs to be taken which is to lay waste to the ports and harbors which give refuge to these pirates. They have been operating with no consequence for years and it needs to be finished with.

Actually considering that this was the first attack on a US flagged ship, I think the response time was very good. It does take time to get all of these assets in place and able to act together.

958 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:23:26am

re: #949 opnion

I never had a dog that liked raw food.

Our dog liked it, but only mixed in with her dry food.

959 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:23:42am

re: #934 Fluffy Bunny
Hey - surgery isn't the only possible response IF you have cancer; lots of things get called "abnormalities" in tests and Oncologists frequently discover it's something a LOT less than cancer.
As I said, my nic name is in blue, if you'd care to e-mail chat please feel free to do so.

960 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:23:58am

re: #942 x-wing

Gonna have to start wearing a neck brace when I read his posts. Last one damn near gave me whipash.

TFK's posts, or Avanti's?

/white smoke........heh, heh.....

961 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:23:58am

re: #952 taxfreekiller

Ask him why the La Raza Atty's have been in and out of his D.C. Senate office all last week. Ask him what he and the other RINO's have been talking about on the Amnesty.

WHAT?!

962 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:24:36am

Hoosier! :-)

963 Erik The Red  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:24:40am

BBL. Have to feed the vultures. 28 day aged steak. Fried eggs(sunny side up) and fries. AKA. Steak, eggs and chips(fries). Served with fresh Portuguese bread. YUM.

964 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:24:45am

re: #926 realwest

{Thank you!} Your offer is greatly appreciated. I am sure everything will turn out fine, it was unexpected and I am in research mode. Trying to gather as much info as possible.

And thanks to all of you for the countless hours of laughs, learning and even the occasional blood pressure rise. This truly is a great group.

965 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:25:06am

re: #952 taxfreekiller

Call John McCain's Senate office and all his local offices in Az.

ask them what he is going to do about the 20,000,000 wage slave illegals with 7 to 8 millions real Americans unemployed in the last year alone?
Ask him why the La Raza Atty's have been in and out of his D.C. Senate office all last week. Ask him what he and the other RINO's have been talking about on the Amnesty.
Make them lie, they know, he knows ,,,so,, make them lie. Put their ass's on the record as liars.

[Link:

966 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:25:23am

re: #937 Karridine

Late Nite Update: TV reports "...a Red-Shirt SHOT somebody..."

Troops are still in the street (live ammo) and the surreal atmosphere has settled heavily on my neck and shoulders...

/streets nearly empty, reporters chirping about conditions in various regions of BKK

/Day Two of the Songkran Water Festival continues tomorrow, and I'll update on the first open thread, OT if really urgent...

Respect, People. My family THANKS you for prayers and inquiries...

We're nestled in the palm of the Lord...

Prayers to you, Karridine. I was thinking about you recently, and wondering how you and your were doing (I hadn't seen posts from you in awhile).

967 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:27:20am

re: #949 opnion

I never had a dog that liked raw food.

We don't usually give ours any unless a bit of raw meat falls on the floor (and that is never much; maybe a few bits of burger)
However, I'm not sure what they've eaten outside. At least one is capable of catching and killing birds.
(One of our little ones killed a mouse in the house, but we didn't let him eat it.)

968 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:27:25am
969 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:28:10am

re: #917 aussiemagpie

One thing I've noticed from afar - this Obama presidency has really magnified the divisions in your country

How long before the silent majority wakes up?

Or is there no longer that silent majority?

No question about it, I've been following much of the polling discussing the issue. The more of his liberal agency he gets done, the higher his approval on the left, and the more isolated and disproving is the right. BHO is pushing 90 % Dems, only 60% independents and 27% GOP. That's a big gap and ends up with a 62/28 overall.

poll.

970 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:28:17am

re: #963 Erik The Red

BBL. Have to feed the vultures. 28 day aged steak. Fried eggs(sunny side up) and fries. AKA. Steak, eggs and chips(fries). Served with fresh Portuguese bread. YUM.

Bye Erik! Enjoy dinner - we also had steak and chips for dinner :-)

Not enjoying the cricket, but I'm positive you are!

971 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:28:51am

re: #914 avanti

Have you ever been to a Tea Party? I assume not, and that you know all that you know about it from the Internet. I'm going to one on Wed. Of course, when there are no "right-wing extremists" there, you'll claim it was a happy coincidence for me. The TP thing hasn't even been around for 2 months, it's too early for it to BE anything yet, but your pathetic attempts to cast the TP'ers as nutjobs shows how much you fear that they're on to something.
Go slap a muffler on one of those POS's in your backyard and leave the Tea Party thing to people who don't get all their info. via "tweets" from their BFF's.

972 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:28:54am

re: #964 Fluffy Bunny
Ah, listen to an old(er) experienced guy: don't do too much research yet! I did a TON of it when first diagnosed in July of '05 and scared myself half to death.
Talk to the Onc first - and if you don't like him/her, get a referral from you doc to another Onc. Everyone is DIFFERENT and reacts differently to cancer (IF you have cancer) and treatments for cancer and all that research (mine was at Sloan-Kettering and Johns Hopkins) WILL confuse you thoroughly!

973 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:29:48am

re: #917 aussiemagpie

Polarized.

974 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:30:01am

re: #893 Iron Fist

My husband and I are learning how to shoot. The shops and ranges are very crowded around here. And a lot of 13 year olds shoot better than me....dang.

975 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:30:42am

re: #971 Lincolntf

You're going to the Atlanta one Wednesday?

976 Wishing  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:31:34am

re: #974 VioletTiger

My husband and I are learning how to shoot. The shops and ranges are very crowded around here. And a lot of 13 year olds shoot better than me....dang.

Up-dinged you for getting out there and learning.
Good job!

977 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:31:37am

re: #917 aussiemagpie

One thing I've noticed from afar - this Obama presidency has really magnified the divisions in your country

How long before the silent majority wakes up?

Or is there no longer that silent majority?

The "majority" asshats woke up and elected this man. The individuals who are the "silent majority" have no representation in the House or Congress. A Tea Party "seems" to be a voice, but that voice is not being heard.

America is in decline. NO ONE wants to believe it. Whether they are US citizens or others who live in far away lands.

Down dings coming.

978 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:31:48am
979 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:32:05am

re: #951 Pietr

Didya find and sign the card, GA?

Yes! Thanks for posting it. He deserves all the kudos he can get for his hard work and dedication. I'd say more, but if he's reading this, he'll get a swelled head, and his focus and modesty are two qualities I most appreciate about him.

980 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:33:07am

Euro telecom building Iran’s wiretap capabilities


[Link: rpc.blogrolling.com...]

981 realwest  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:33:13am

Well folks it's been interesting as usual, but I gotta go get some chores done!
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

982 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:33:19am

re: #917 aussiemagpie

One thing I've noticed from afar - this Obama presidency has really magnified the divisions in your country

How long before the silent majority wakes up?

Or is there no longer that silent majority?

* * * *
Aussie, half our population didn't bother to vote. Maybe some of them are paying attention and will make the supreme effort to vote next time.

Perhaps some Americans who didn't vote have learned the hard way that ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!

983 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:33:48am

re: #949 opnion

I never had a dog that liked raw food.

You never had a Labrador Retriever!

984 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:34:24am

re: #934 Fluffy Bunny

Sending prayers. {Bunny}

985 AuntAcid  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:34:32am

re: #974 VioletTiger

My husband and I are learning how to shoot. The shops and ranges are very crowded around here. And a lot of 13 year olds shoot better than me....dang.

13 year olds don't know they can't...

986 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:34:36am

re: #971 Lincolntf

I'll admit, all I've heard about the extremists I read about right here. I hope you are correct and it was much ado about nothing.

987 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:34:39am

re: #974 VioletTiger

My husband and I are learning how to shoot. The shops and ranges are very crowded around here. And a lot of 13 year olds shoot better than me....dang.


That may be breath control, or flinching on your part, Violet. Once you get more comfortable with it all, you'll find you do quite well. Unless, it turns out you need vision correction for your shooting eye.......

988 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:34:55am

re: #969 avanti

No question about it, I've been following much of the polling discussing the issue. The more of his liberal agency he gets done, the higher his approval on the left, and the more isolated and disproving is the right. BHO is pushing 90 % Dems, only 60% independents and 27% GOP. That's a big gap and ends up with a 62/28 overall.

poll.

Thanks for this

Similar to the situation here - our left leaning PM has 74% approval rating now, after most taxpayers received $900 in their bank accounts

Meanwhile PM Rudd racks up the debt while Aussies blissfully buy plasmas and new fridges

This country has also lurched to the left....

989 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:34:56am

re: #983 Spare O'Lake

You never had a Labrador Retriever!

Heh. They are the shop vacs of the canine world.

990 x-wing  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:34:57am

re: #977 midwestgak

I gave you an up-ding for that. I feel the same way. The only question is... if America turns into a European type country, who will be the new America?

991 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:35:11am
992 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:35:36am

GE Profile Range alert ... yesterday morning, my grandson was playing with one of those bunnies attached to a parachute, the glass door of the oven took a direct hit and shattered. (The bunny weighs less than an ounce and my grandson is a 27 pound two year old.) Thankfully, there were no injuries. But, I was stunned that it happened. We ended up at Abuelo's for Easter dinner. GE is sending a tech to diagnose the problem...which should prove interesting as there is no glass left to examine.

The moral of this story is beware of para-trooping bunnies in the kitchen!

993 Dianna  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:35:49am

re: #977 midwestgak

The "majority" asshats woke up and elected this man. The individuals who are the "silent majority" have no representation in the House or Congress. A Tea Party "seems" to be a voice, but that voice is not being heard.

America is in decline. NO ONE wants to believe it. Whether they are US citizens or others who live in far away lands.

Down dings coming.

I won't downding you, but I think you are being a little gloomy, and inclined to cry doom.

994 Wishing  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:36:09am

re: #986 avanti

I'll admit, all I've heard about the extremists I read about right here. I hope you are correct and it was much ado about nothing.

Avanti, is word out to the Dems to try to misrepresent the Tea Partiers?

995 ciaospirit  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:36:59am

re: #971 Lincolntf

Be sure to have your eyes on PJTV.com at 4:00 PM Central time today to ensure you catch the LIVE Tea Party broadcast today!

996 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:37:50am

re: #973 littleoldlady

Polarized.

Hello {littleoldlady}! And thank you for the poll!

997 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:38:10am

re: #989 Russkilitlover

Heh. They are the shop vacs of the canine world.

Yep - cooked, uncooked, processed, animal, vegetable, clothing...you name it, they'll eat it.

998 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:38:48am

re: #975 sattv4u2

No. I was planning on Charlottesville, VA, but now I'm thinking Asheville NC. Shorter drive and I've been on their message board/website a few times. They seem like a decent group.

999 ciaospirit  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:39:21am

re: #986 avanti

I'll admit, all I've heard about the extremists I read about right here.

Typical of you. And I noticed you ignored all the positive comments about it and just made your decision based on those that supported what you wanted to believe.

1000 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:39:39am

re: #988 aussiemagpie

Thanks for this

Similar to the situation here - our left leaning PM has 74% approval rating now, after most taxpayers received $900 in their bank accounts

74% would be almost impossible in this country. I think Bush hit it for a few days after 9-11, but with our right/left ratio, 65 might be the limit. You must have a higher percentage liberal population then we do.

1001 Wishing  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:39:55am

I think that at the Tea Parties on Wed. someone at each gathering should be tasked with the job of filming the MSM, if they show up.
Follow them throughout the day, film everything they do.
Shoe, meet other foot.

1002 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:39:57am

re: #958 Ward Cleaver

Our dog liked it, but only mixed in with her dry food.

That would work, no doubt.

1003 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:40:02am
1004 Wishing  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:40:25am

re: #994 Wishing

Avanti, is word out to the Dems to try to misrepresent the Tea Partiers?

1005 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:40:28am

re: #997 Spare O'Lake

Yep - cooked, uncooked, processed, animal, vegetable, clothing...you name it, they'll eat it.

When I was younger and hunted with Beagles and a Basset, they'd vacuum the entire barnyard as we prepared to hit the fields. Not a sight most peeps want to see, for sure.........:>O

1006 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:40:41am

re: #972 realwest

Ah, listen to an old(er) experienced guy: don't do too much research yet! I did a TON of it when first diagnosed in July of '05 and scared myself half to death.
Talk to the Onc first - and if you don't like him/her, get a referral from you doc to another Onc. Everyone is DIFFERENT and reacts differently to cancer (IF you have cancer) and treatments for cancer and all that research (mine was at Sloan-Kettering and Johns Hopkins) WILL confuse you thoroughly!

I second your suggestion not to do too much research YET.
What's on the web is often worst-case scenario.
No use getting all worked up until you know exactly what it is you need to be worked up about.

1007 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:41:24am

re: #967 Kosh's Shadow

We don't usually give ours any unless a bit of raw meat falls on the floor (and that is never much; maybe a few bits of burger)
However, I'm not sure what they've eaten outside. At least one is capable of catching and killing birds.
(One of our little ones killed a mouse in the house, but we didn't let him eat it.)

Well, dogs will eat just about anything, but I can't see ours eating raw food.

1008 ciaospirit  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:41:42am

re: #1001 Wishing

I think that at the Tea Parties on Wed. someone at each gathering should be tasked with the job of filming the MSM, if they show up.
Follow them throughout the day, film everything they do.
Shoe, meet other foot.

Great idea. Word is out that ACORN and others plan to infiltrate with nutjob signs. Last I heard, Beck decided not to keynote because of this.

1009 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:41:58am

re: #999 ciaospirit

Killgore trout has been a one-trick pony on this issue for a month. Everything Avanti says comes directly from KT's posts.

1010 Irish Rose  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:42:22am

re: #628 VioletTiger

Is the Advair helping?

Yes, the Advair is helping if you're still here and thanks for asking :).

1011 Last Mohican  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:42:31am

re: #655 Pietr

MSNBC has a compilation of BO praise here; the link that I clicked was titled 'first 100 days-a daring rescue'....Sheesh:

BO the rescuer

Oh, for goodness sake. Did Obama parachute into the ocean, climb aboard the USS Bainbridge, and coordinate a perfectly placed sniper shot with those of several other snipers, while firing from one pitching boat onto another? No? Then Obama did not perform a "daring rescue," and MSNBC can go f*ck themselves.

And while they're at it, I'd like to hear their discussion of how Obama handled his real first test as commander-in-chief. I'll let them decide whether they want to talk about the Iranian nuclear weapons program (the one that he promised AIPAC he'd never tolerate, although he has shown that he plans to do absolutely nothing about it), or North Korea's test-firing a long-range ballistic missile directly at Hawaii (he didn't do anything at all about that either), or the growing emergence and power of an anti-American terrorist regime in Gaza (he offered them 900 million dollars, and wants to engage them in dialogue and support their participation in "Palestinian government."

*spit*

1012 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:43:01am

aussie! :-)

1013 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:43:23am

re: #977 midwestgak

The "majority" asshats woke up and elected this man. The individuals who are the "silent majority" have no representation in the House or Congress. A Tea Party "seems" to be a voice, but that voice is not being heard.

America is in decline. NO ONE wants to believe it. Whether they are US citizens or others who live in far away lands.

Down dings coming.

Seems like our situation - our Opposition party can't get positive media attention, as the MSM covers PM Rudd's backside

And many people are ignorant - either too stupid or unable to get news from anywhere else except the 6pm news

Very sad indeed

1014 vxbush  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:43:41am

re: #1010 Irish Rose

Yes, the Advair is helping if you're still here and thanks for asking :).

Advair. Good drugs. I give it high praise.

1015 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:45:00am

re: #994 Wishing

Avanti, is word out to the Dems to try to misrepresent the Tea Partiers?

To be honest, I have not heard a word about them from the Obamabots, even Move On is silent. I assume they are either not concerned, or want to be perceived as unconcerned. With the exception of Fox and the right wind blogs, not much buzz anywhere. Not saying the idiots like Code pink and ACORN might not have counter protests, but I don't expect much.

1016 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:45:09am

18:26 Iraq denies it is seeking advanced Russian weapons (DPA)

back to the future?

1017 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:45:38am

re: #997 Spare O'Lake

Yep - cooked, uncooked, processed, animal, vegetable, clothing...you name it, they'll eat it.

My new pup has decided that he loves lives snails.......BLECH to the nth degree!

1018 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:45:49am

re: #980 Dustyvet

Euro telecom building Iran’s wiretap capabilities

[Link: rpc.blogrolling.com...]

I say we should sell them wiretap equipment - with our own wiretaps embedded in it.
But I am quite sure that isn't being done in this case.

1019 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:45:51am

re: #982 alegrias

* * * *
Aussie, half our population didn't bother to vote. Maybe some of them are paying attention and will make the supreme effort to vote next time.

Perhaps some Americans who didn't vote have learned the hard way that ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!

It happened to us and we have compulsory voting

People wanted CHANGE!

1020 big steve  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:46:02am

I see Obama's Teleprompter is now referring to Michelle Obama as "Lady M"

1021 ciaospirit  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:46:27am

Just heard on the news that the snipers were told by the White House to go forward only if the Captain's life was in imminent danger. The President didn't give the final go ahead, left that up to the Navy Commander to decide "imminent danger." And he did.

1022 jaunte  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:46:46am

re: #1011 Last Mohican

Looks like a little smoke (a few more Obama mentions than the story absolutely warranted) from MSNBC, to help obscure last week's failure to get any help from the Europeans.

1023 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:46:46am

re: #993 Dianna

I won't downding you, but I think you are being a little gloomy, and inclined to cry doom.

realwest down dinged me. No one wants to believe harm is coming our way.

Have any of you noticed that Europe is grouping together to make one world order? Have any of you noticed that OB is bowing to that trend/inclination? Justice Ginsberg, a supreme court justice no less, wants us to consider/accept foreign laws as our standard.

Cry doom? Not me. Look at the world's powers in place. See for yourself. Sovereign no longer with the leadership in place.

1024 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:47:08am

re: #1015 avanti

To be honest, I have not heard a word about them from the Obamabots, even Move On is silent. I assume they are either not concerned, or want to be perceived as unconcerned. With the exception of Fox and the right wind blogs, not much buzz anywhere. Not saying the idiots like Code pink and ACORN might not have counter protests, but I don't expect much.

The left seems to be trying to counter-protest the Tea Parties with A New Way Forward.

1025 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:48:16am

re: #1011 Last Mohican

Oh, for goodness sake. Did Obama parachute into the ocean, climb aboard the USS Bainbridge, and coordinate a perfectly placed sniper shot with those of several other snipers, while firing from one pitching boat onto another? No? Then Obama did not perform a "daring rescue," and MSNBC can go f*ck themselves.

And while they're at it, I'd like to hear their discussion of how Obama handled his real first test as commander-in-chief. I'll let them decide whether they want to talk about the Iranian nuclear weapons program (the one that he promised AIPAC he'd never tolerate, although he has shown that he plans to do absolutely nothing about it), or North Korea's test-firing a long-range ballistic missile directly at Hawaii (he didn't do anything at all about that either), or the growing emergence and power of an anti-American terrorist regime in Gaza (he offered them 900 million dollars, and wants to engage them in dialogue and support their participation in "Palestinian government."

*spit*

I'm usually the first to criticize BHO for his ineptitude in the foreign policy arena, but his handling of the Somali pirates was pretty good. Yes, he could have been more forceful, and talked up the US military a bit more, but the rescue was a well-done job.

If we can praise him for when he does good and right, we might be viewed more as the "loyal opposition" than just "opposition."

1026 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:48:29am

re: #1018 Kosh's Shadow

I say we should sell them wiretap equipment - with our own wiretaps embedded in it.
But I am quite sure that isn't being done in this case.

Ya never know?

1027 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:48:35am

re: #1021 ciaospirit

ciaospirit! :-)

So, he ... um ...voted PRESENT (yet again)?

1028 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:49:17am

re: #1015 avanti

To be honest, I have not heard a word about them from the Obamabots, even Move On is silent. I assume they are either not concerned, or want to be perceived as unconcerned. With the exception of Fox and the right wind blogs, not much buzz anywhere. Not saying the idiots like Code pink and ACORN might not have counter protests, but I don't expect much.

* * * *
Avanti,

ACORN is not "idiots like Code Pink"! ACORN gets federal funding as many lizards have noted above.

If federally funded ACORN people agitate and harass non-taxpayer funded Tea Party protesters, that's a federal crime. (lawyers, fact check me please). Fed employees, even "community organizers" like ACORN, aren't supposed to do partisan politics on the taxpayer's dime.

1029 J.S.  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:49:18am

hmmm....as another poster noted, it's Charles' birthday today! So, happy birthday, Charles!

1030 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:49:23am

re: #987 Pietr

That may be breath control, or flinching on your part, Violet. Once you get more comfortable with it all, you'll find you do quite well. Unless, it turns out you need vision correction for your shooting eye.......

It may be flinching. I just need some practice. It is very new to both of us. But then again, those 13 year olds are showing up a lot of adults. Good on them!

1031 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:50:53am

BBL!

1032 Irish Rose  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:50:56am

No worries realwest, it's not that.
I've been diagnosed with high blood pressure and type2.

One of the downsides to adoption is that you have absolutely no idea what you have in the gene pool, until you hit middle age. It appears as though my genetic time bomb has finally gone off.

Yeah, I know I'm just bitching. I can accept having to take a walk every day, be a slave to the daily meds and having to watch my sugar intake as I'm not a "dessert" person anyway.

But I resent the hell out of having to watch my salt intake.
I like my salt, damnit :).

1033 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:51:28am

re: #972 realwest

re: #984 VioletTiger

re: #1006 reine.de.tout

Auto load is WAY faster than this old bunny. Thank you all for the encouraging words. I will keep the research to a minimum, no sense scaring the beejezuz out of myself, there is enough happening in our country that keeps me awake at night...and at this age I need all the beauty sleep I can get. : )

1034 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:51:47am

re: #999 ciaospirit

Typical of you. And I noticed you ignored all the positive comments about it and just made your decision based on those that supported what you wanted to believe.

I'll admit I went nuts when I heard applause for book burning at a Tea party meeting. That and the other comments did concern me.

1035 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:51:59am

re: #992 Fluffy Bunny

GE Profile Range alert ... yesterday morning, my grandson was playing with one of those bunnies attached to a parachute, the glass door of the oven took a direct hit and shattered. (The bunny weighs less than an ounce and my grandson is a 27 pound two year old.) Thankfully, there were no injuries. But, I was stunned that it happened. We ended up at Abuelo's for Easter dinner. GE is sending a tech to diagnose the problem...which should prove interesting as there is no glass left to examine.

The moral of this story is beware of para-trooping bunnies in the kitchen!

It must have hit the glass dead center; that's all I can figure.

1036 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:51:59am

I'd like wish Charles a Happy Birthday also, and when that gift arrives in that big box, open it right away. My cat is missing?

1037 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:52:28am

re: #1029 J.S.

hmmm....as another poster noted, it's Charles' birthday today! So, happy birthday, Charles!

See Lol #825.....

re: #825 littleoldlady

I put a birthday card (of sorts ;-) in the spinoffs for Charles if y'all care to ding or sign it.

1038 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:52:40am

re: #1026 Nevergiveup

Ya never know?

The Germans and Finns selling Iran equipment they could use to listen in on the Iranians? I doubt it. Maybe the Germans, but not likely.
Too bad.
Although a few years ago, I worked for a company that made voicemail equipment, and read the spec from Germany on the hooks they required for recording data and messages.

1039 ciaospirit  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:52:52am

re: #1028 alegrias

even "community organizers" like ACORN, aren't supposed to do partisan politics on the taxpayer's dime.

Keywords are "supposed to."

1040 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:53:01am

re: #1021 ciaospirit

Just heard on the news that the snipers were told by the White House to go forward only if the Captain's life was in imminent danger. The President didn't give the final go ahead, left that up to the Navy Commander to decide "imminent danger." And he did.

Exactly. Clearly, the real life or death decision was on the ground. Obama thankfully got out of their way and gave them the okay to do their job. He didn't screw up, but all praise for Obama is way overblown. It was an easy call.

1041 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:53:30am

re: #1036 Nevergiveup

Nevergiveup! :-)

OY!

I know it was a joke...but I think the last time Charles moved HIS cat went missing!

1042 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:53:53am

re: #1024 reine.de.tout

The left seems to be trying to counter-protest the Tea Parties with A New Way Forward.

Oh goodie, some far left loons on job.

1043 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:53:55am

re: #1021 ciaospirit

Just heard on the news that the snipers were told by the White House to go forward only if the Captain's life was in imminent danger. The President didn't give the final go ahead, left that up to the Navy Commander to decide "imminent danger." And he did.

I head read that the snipers (or someone) saw a gun being pointed at Phillips' back.

1044 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:54:24am

Howdy, Pietr! :-)

1045 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:54:57am

re: #992 Fluffy Bunny

How old is the range? When I worked for a homebuilder, GE was our national supplier. We had lots of the Profile series installed. I seem to remember at least 2 instances like yours. It was definitely a defect. These were in units that were within the one year warranty period. I don't know how successful I would have been in getting GE to replace the unit if they were 2-3 years old, even though I would strongly argue that it was a dangerous product defect.

1046 JacksonTn  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:55:04am

re: #1034 avanti

I'll admit I went nuts when I heard applause for book burning at a Tea party meeting. That and the other comments did concern me.

oh, wow ... did it kinda remind you of the "guillotine" that was at many of the protests against Bush? ... just wondering ... because there is nothing that the right has done so far that compares to the trash I have seen at left gatherings ... and I have been to many ... does that excuse some of the stuff that has happened at a few tea parties? ... no ... but if more regular citizens show up the crazy numbers will be overcome ... once again ... you are at the talking points of the left and your lover Obama ...

1047 Captain Amercia  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:55:13am

BY:CAPTAINAMERICA

Now that the worlds best commandos, the U.S. Navy SEALs have rescued Captain Richard Phillips from Somali Pirates it’s time to analyze this incident. There can be no doubt that outside the Captain, his family and friends and the ships crew the biggest winner in this whole incident was none other than The President of the United States, Barack Obama. The biggest losers of course were the three dead Somali pirates. Bummer for them.

As this drama unfolded there were reports that the White House was monitoring the situation. In reality the Obama administration was carefully weighing their options. As it turns out there was a debate (as usual) between the military and the diplomats. Guess who advocated what. In the end the military won and Hillary Clinton lost. The President was well advised in this instance. But things could have been very different. Lets examine the Presidents options and the consequences of each:

WWW.Firstin@wordpress.com

1048 jaunte  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:55:17am

The set of people concerned about out of control government spending and a huge expansion of the deficit is large enough to inevitably include some radical crazies on the fringe. Despite the crazies, the concern about blind spending is real, and justified.

1049 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:55:22am

Obama says he's please about the rescue effort on tv.

1050 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:55:53am

re: #1035 Ward Cleaver

One of those million to one shots! Or the grandson has a helluva arm, maybe I should sign him up for t-ball early. A prodigy! LOL

1051 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:55:57am

re: #1041 littleoldlady

Nevergiveup! :-)

OY!

I know it was a joke...but I think the last time Charles moved HIS cat went missing!

Well if that is true I hope he found her/him. We have 3 Siamese and if any one went missing we would be devastated. If my wife went missing the cats would be devastated. If I went missing the cats would wonder were that man went but life would go on?

1052 rawmuse  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:56:17am

re: #1021 ciaospirit

Just heard on the news that the snipers were told by the White House to go forward only if the Captain's life was in imminent danger. The President didn't give the final go ahead, left that up to the Navy Commander to decide "imminent danger." And he did.

The Capt. was in "imminent danger" from the moment he was taken hostage.

1053 Dianna  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:56:22am

I was checking on my local tea party, and found this series of directives from the organizers:

Rules for the Tax Revolt Tea Party:

* No violence, no threats, no profanity, no racism, no law-breaking;
* Law enforcement officers must be treated with respect;
* Stay out of the street at all times, except when using a crosswalk with the traffic light;
* Do not block the sidewalk to pedestrian traffic, AND Keep your signs from hanging over into the street
* Do not block the signs of, nor get within 10 feet of, our opponents. Do not interfere with any media coverage of them. Our First Amendment rights are their rights, too.
* Any arguments should be at 10 feet away to avoid conflict arising from passions on both sides. If you choose to get close to them physically, do so in friendship as fellow Americans only;
* Do not give the middle finger, call people jerks, tell them to get a green card, or get a job;
*Take the high road. Be civil.

This strikes me as a good list at least for a start.

1054 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:56:27am

Obama says he pleased about halting the rise of PRIVACY! blooper, he meant Piracy.

1055 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:56:36am

re: #992 Fluffy Bunny

GE Profile Range alert ... yesterday morning, my grandson was playing with one of those bunnies attached to a parachute, the glass door of the oven took a direct hit and shattered. (The bunny weighs less than an ounce and my grandson is a 27 pound two year old.) Thankfully, there were no injuries. But, I was stunned that it happened. We ended up at Abuelo's for Easter dinner. GE is sending a tech to diagnose the problem...which should prove interesting as there is no glass left to examine.

The moral of this story is beware of para-trooping bunnies in the kitchen!

Crap. That's a high end range and a rather nice one. I have one myself. Do let us know what happened. I don't have any grandchildren, but I do have a few crazy felines.

1056 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:56:54am

re: #1034 avanti

Did you go nuts when people used to scream for the blood of Bush at Acorn-style rallies? One nut does not a movement make. Though I know you heartily wish you could marginalize the non-partisan Tea Parties by falling back on the ancient, fear-mongering tactics that have enabled people like you to squelch debate in this country for so long, it's not gonna happen.

1057 ConservatismNow!  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:56:56am

re: #1030 VioletTiger

It may be flinching. I just need some practice. It is very new to both of us. But then again, those 13 year olds are showing up a lot of adults. Good on them!

I took my brother shooting for the first time a few weeks ago. He kept the paper targets and you could easily see a difference in his groups after he got over the initial jitters. I can attest to Pietr's advice. Assuming you are safely handling the weapon, getting over the jitters and nervousness of firing a pistol is the most important thing for a new shooter. I've gone to the range enough times with my pistol so that I am used to firing it.

1058 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:57:19am

re: #1044 littleoldlady

Howdy, Pietr! :-)

You musta missed it LoL, but I 'Morninged you a few hundred posts back....I understand, you're kinda busy, and even I miss a reply sometimes.......:>))

1059 Dianna  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:57:38am

re: #1049 alegrias

Obama says he's please about the rescue effort on tv.

I'd hope so!

1060 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:57:50am

re: #1051 Nevergiveup

Well if that is true I hope he found her/him. We have 3 Siamese and if any one went missing we would be devastated. If my wife went missing the cats would be devastated. If I went missing the cats would wonder were that man went but life would go on?

I received a note from my cat this morning. Giving me thirty days to move out, as he now know's how to use the can opener and I'm not needed anymore...:)

1061 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:57:57am

re: #991 Iron Fist


Thank you for this thoughtful piece, it gives me a different perspective, especially as we have no history of civil war and we are not armed either

Our parliament is based on the Westminster system, and we seem to have more checks and ballances in this system than you have there, but I will do some reading

Where are all the conservative leaders? In a country with over 300 million people it's hard to believe that there is no-one capable of inspiring the conservative base!

We have an excuse, there's only 21 million of us

1062 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:58:10am

re: #1045 Russkilitlover

How old is the range? When I worked for a homebuilder, GE was our national supplier. We had lots of the Profile series installed. I seem to remember at least 2 instances like yours. It was definitely a defect. These were in units that were within the one year warranty period. I don't know how successful I would have been in getting GE to replace the unit if they were 2-3 years old, even though I would strongly argue that it was a dangerous product defect.

It could be a problem with the way the glass was tempered by the supplier. Hopefully it's just a matter of replacing the glass with a better quality part.

1063 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:58:30am

re: #1054 alegrias

Obama says he pleased about halting the rise of PRIVACY! blooper, he meant Piracy.

Freudian slip?

1064 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:58:34am

re: #1053 Dianna

The suggestion list at the one I'm going to is similar to yours.
Polar opposite of the disrupt/offend/harass method used by Acorn.

1065 opnion  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:58:46am

re: #1040 VioletTiger

Exactly. Clearly, the real life or death decision was on the ground. Obama thankfully got out of their way and gave them the okay to do their job. He didn't screw up, but all praise for Obama is way overblown. It was an easy call.

Yeah it was an easy call & the bar is so low for Obama that he is being praised for doing what he is paid to do.

1066 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:58:53am

re: #1060 Dustyvet

I received a note from my cat this morning. Giving me thirty days to move out, as he now know's how to use the can opener and I'm not needed anymore...:)

How would he keep warm at night and who would clean the litter?

1067 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:59:11am

re: #1059 Dianna

I'd hope so!

* * * *
But first, Pres. Obama said he'd just participated in the Easter Egg Roll on the White House lawn, that it was wonderful, and that that's what it's all about, or something like that. It's for the children!

1068 KenJen  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:59:13am

re: #1049 alegrias

Obama says he's please about the rescue effort on tv.


Im pleased he's pleased. This had to be exhausting for him. He probably needs to rest.

1069 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:59:33am

re: #409 Shiplord Kirel

littleoldlady! ;)

Iirc, you were a fan of my stories about my ex-wife Jabba the Slutt (aka Jezebel) and her current husband, who also happens to be my traitorous and creepy brother "Judas."
It just happens that these two world class hypocrites are squarely in the sights of a well-known media personality with a very popular daytime talk show. The producers were fascinated by the possibility of juxtaposing Judas and Jezebel's breathtakingly scandalous history with their current status as high profile religious wackos and public moralizers. Among their current causes are young earth cretinism creationism and the abolition of the public schools. Their past is unknown to their current associates, of course, but that will change in dramatic fashion if this pans out.

I remember when you posted the original story. Please do let us know how it pans out. I love the smell of Schadenfreude in the morning.

1070 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:59:39am

re: #1066 Nevergiveup

How would he keep warm at night and who would clean the litter?

Litter? That's what the carpet is for.

/

1071 vxbush  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:59:42am

re: #1066 Nevergiveup

How would he keep warm at night and who would clean the litter?

All he needs to do is train the cat to use the toilet, learn to flush, and then the human really is superfluous.

1072 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 8:59:54am

re: #1053 Dianna

Do not give the middle finger, call people jerks, tell them to get a green card, or get a job;

I suppose calling them "fucking Commie bastards" is out of the question.

1073 Dianna  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:00:15am

re: #1067 alegrias

*Groan!*

1074 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:00:18am

re: #1068 KenJen

Im pleased he's pleased. This had to be exhausting for him. He probably needs to rest.

He needs a Hawaiian vacation.

/with photos

/gag

1075 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:00:25am

re: #1072 MandyManners

Don't worry, we'll all know you're thinking it.

1076 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:00:36am

re: #1072 MandyManners

I suppose calling them "fucking Commie bastards" is out of the question.

Yep, that's right out.

1077 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:00:42am

Anybody mentioned the red headline on Drudge?

1078 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:00:42am

re: #1071 vxbush

All he needs to do is train the cat to use the toilet, learn to flush, and then the human really is superfluous.

Except our cats like to be carried around. Well I guess they could rent a ride ha?

1079 ConservatismNow!  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:00:47am

re: #1068 KenJen

Im pleased he's pleased. This had to be exhausting for him. He probably needs to rest.

He's done enough. He should take the next 4 years off.

1080 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:01:13am

re: #1023 midwestgak

realwest down dinged me. No one wants to believe harm is coming our way.

Have any of you noticed that Europe is grouping together to make one world order? Have any of you noticed that OB is bowing to that trend/inclination? Justice Ginsberg, a supreme court justice no less, wants us to consider/accept foreign laws as our standard.

Cry doom? Not me. Look at the world's powers in place. See for yourself. Sovereign no longer with the leadership in place.

Email me, I have some links about the New World Order (yes our PM is a great fan)

I'm a bad replier so give me a few days :-)

1081 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:01:13am

re: #1077 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody mentioned the red headline on Drudge?

* * *
It's more helpful if you mention it.

1082 vxbush  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:01:17am

re: #1078 Nevergiveup

Except our cats like to be carried around. Well I guess they could rent a ride ha?

Hey, kids are cheap, right?

/

1083 Dianna  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:01:49am

re: #1072 MandyManners

I suppose calling them "fucking Commie bastards" is out of the question.

I won't. I may express disagreement, but I'm not much for name-calling. There's so much of that, and it doesn't advance things at all.

1084 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:01:56am

re: #1045 Russkilitlover

Funny that you brought this up, it is 4 years old and two years ago I was removing a roast, a small amount of drippings dropped onto the inner glass door, it sounded as if a gun had been fired in the kitchen and it also shattered. GE replaced it, no questions asked. This time they are trying to cite the age of the oven and asked if there was possibly a crack in the glass door. (There was no crack, I just cleaned the oven last week.)

Hmmm...

1085 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:02:11am

re: #1052 rawmuse

The Capt. was in "imminent danger" from the moment he was taken hostage.

How could they see the Captain and a gun being held to his back if he was inside the enclosed boat? This seems kind of wierd. I think that they had a standing order that if all 3 pirates came into view, fire. I understand that's exactly what happened. One pirate appeard in the wheelhouse and two others stuck their head out of port holes to look around.

We may or may not get more details ;)

1086 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:02:16am

re: #1046 JacksonTn

oh, wow ... did it kinda remind you of the "guillotine" that was at many of the protests against Bush? ...

If your point is that the Tea parties have the right to be as stupid the left was, I agree. I'll stay out of the tea party debate since I admit all I know is what I read here. Best of luck for a successful grass roots protest.

1087 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:02:40am

re: #1069 doppelganglander

I remember when you posted the original story. Please do let us know how it pans out. I love the smell of Schadenfreude in the morning.

That's gonna be good.

/today on the jerry springer show...

1088 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:03:00am

re: #1060 Dustyvet

I received a note from my cat this morning. Giving me thirty days to move out, as he now know's how to use the can opener and I'm not needed anymore...:)

Tell the Furry Purrson in your life, "Yes, but someone needs to make money and buy you those cans of food; so please reconsider." The Furry Purrson will probably send another note, saying you will be retained for the near future.....:>))

1089 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:03:01am

re: #1081 alegrias

* * *
It's more helpful if you mention it.

MILITARY CONSIDERS ATTACK ON PIRATE LAND BASES

Big ole red letters.

1090 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:03:30am

re: #1085 Russkilitlover

How could they see the Captain and a gun being held to his back if he was inside the enclosed boat? This seems kind of wierd. I think that they had a standing order that if all 3 pirates came into view, fire. I understand that's exactly what happened. One pirate appeard in the wheelhouse and two others stuck their head out of port holes to look around.

We may or may not get more details ;)

Sometimes we get to many details. In a case like this less is more and let the Pirates scratch their heads and try figure out what really happened?

1091 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:03:31am

re: #1054 alegrias

Obama says he pleased about halting the rise of PRIVACY! blooper, he meant Piracy.

Or did he........?

1092 rawmuse  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:03:41am

re: #1085 Russkilitlover

The Capt. dove in to the water for the 2nd time, the pirates raised their weapons, and that was their last earthly act, other than falling to the deck.

1093 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:03:54am

re: #1077 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody mentioned the red headline on Drudge?

The land bases story, or the mortars story?

1094 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:03:55am

re: #1077 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody mentioned the red headline on Drudge?

If they are indeed considering attacking the land bases of pirates, why would they tell people? Isn't the element of surpirse of value?

1095 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:04:17am

Will President Obama invite the military and Capt. Phillips to the White House to celebrate their successful mission?

Pres. Richard Nixon invited the POWs to welcome them back to the US after their ordeal, long years of torture & doubt, returning with honor after doing their duty for their country.

That's the kind of White House event I want to see, not those closed-to-the-press, "PRIVATE" events for race-based newspapers or other partisan groups.

1096 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:04:49am

re: #1094 VioletTiger

If they are indeed considering attacking the land bases of pirates, why would they tell people? Isn't the element of surpirse of value?

Ever occurred to you that the pirates may not have the internets?
/

1097 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:05:00am

re: #1095 alegrias

Will President Obama invite the military and Capt. Phillips to the White House to celebrate their successful mission?

Pres. Richard Nixon invited the POWs to welcome them back to the US after their ordeal, long years of torture & doubt, returning with honor after doing their duty for their country.

That's the kind of White House event I want to see, not those closed-to-the-press, "PRIVATE" events for race-based newspapers or other partisan groups.

But the "Dog" is coming?

1098 JacksonTn  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:05:15am

re: #1086 avanti

If your point is that the Tea parties have the right to be as stupid the left was, I agree. I'll stay out of the tea party debate since I admit all I know is what I read here. Best of luck for a successful grass roots protest.

No ... that was not my point ... two wrongs do not make a right ... I hope that people continue to protest on both sides when they see something they do not agree with ... that is our right ... I hope that both sides will stop with the crazy ... but I have just seen way more "hatred" from the left at their protests ... and things being done that would be almost considered "hate crimes" if directed at Obama ...

1099 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:05:20am

re: #1089 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

MILITARY CONSIDERS ATTACK ON PIRATE LAND BASES

Big ole red letters.

***
Nice! Thank you.

1100 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:05:24am

re: #1089 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

MILITARY CONSIDERS ATTACK ON PIRATE LAND BASES

Big ole red letters.

Oh, that one. Insert some special ops guys to generate targeting information, then put some laser-guided bombs on the bad actors.

1101 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:06:02am

re: #1051 Nevergiveup

Not The Mama. ;-)

1102 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:06:05am

re: #1084 Fluffy Bunny

Hold out for a new and upgraded one. Casually use words like dangerous, 2 year old child, gosh, he could have really been hurt, this has happened before, etc., etc.

1103 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:06:05am

re: #1084 Fluffy Bunny

Funny that you brought this up, it is 4 years old and two years ago I was removing a roast, a small amount of drippings dropped onto the inner glass door, it sounded as if a gun had been fired in the kitchen and it also shattered. GE replaced it, no questions asked. This time they are trying to cite the age of the oven and asked if there was possibly a crack in the glass door. (There was no crack, I just cleaned the oven last week.)

Hmmm...

Sounds like a defect. Tell them they need to replace it or you will contact consumer agencies. Maybe press to have all that model recalled; shattering glass is a safety hazard. This might be enough for them to replace yours; recalls are expensive.
We have glass in our Sears oven doors, and they're well over 10 years old. No problems.

1104 redstateredneck  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:06:41am

Good Morning, {all y'all}!

1105 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:06:53am

re: #1096 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever occurred to you that the pirates may not have the internets?
/

I wouldn't make that assumption

1106 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:07:03am

Time to start a new tradition: Talk Like A Dead Pirate Day.

/i'll keeeeeeeeel you! aaaarrrrr!

1107 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:07:10am

re: #1092 rawmuse

The Capt. dove in to the water for the 2nd time, the pirates raised their weapons, and that was their last earthly act, other than falling to the deck.

Oh, I didn't know that. That guy has some serious cajones!

1108 KenJen  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:07:56am

re: #1074 Ward Cleaver

He needs a Hawaiian vacation.

/with photos

/gag

I was thinking more like cruise thru the Gulf of Aden.

1109 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:08:00am

re: #1058 Pietr

PIETR! :-) :-) :-)

/I THOUGHT I had enough coffee.... :-/

1110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:08:11am

re: #1106 Ward Cleaver

Time to start a new tradition: Talk Like A Dead Pirate Day.

/i'll keeeeeeeeel you! aaaarrrrr!

How the pirates surf the internets!

1111 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:08:27am

re: #1092 rawmuse

The Capt. dove in to the water for the 2nd time, the pirates raised their weapons, and that was their last earthly act, other than falling to the deck.

Not to be a pain, but where did you hear he jumped in the water a second time, I saw that nowhere ?

1112 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:08:34am

re: #1106 Ward Cleaver

Time to start a new tradition: Talk Like A Dead Pirate Day.

/i'll keeeeeeeeel you! aaaarrrrr!

Or, since they're Muslim pirates (and the Muslims have a history of piracy),
Allah Ackbarrrrrr!
(Must be hard to be a Muslim pirate; no rum!)

1113 VioletTiger  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:09:13am

re: #1096 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever occurred to you that the pirates may not have the internets?
/

Ah, briefly. But I have been to some very weird places and found that the inhabitants had better cameras and cell phones than I did.

1114 redstateredneck  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:09:49am

re: #1111 avanti

Not to be a pain, but where did you hear he jumped in the water a second time, I saw that nowhere ?

You must not watch Fox News Channel.

1115 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:10:11am

re: #1054 alegrias

Obama says he pleased about halting the rise of PRIVACY! blooper, he meant Piracy.

I now know that we as a nation are secure! Obama. Obama. Obama.////

Actually, he will halt the rise of privacy. No doubt.

1116 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:10:51am

re: #1111 avanti

Not to be a pain, but where did you hear he jumped in the water a second time, I saw that nowhere ?

* * *
many news outlets reported this yesterday. Don't you remember the Capt. jumped in and was captured once before?

Then he did it again yesterday. According to news reports, IF they're to be trusted.

1117 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:10:59am

re: #1084 Fluffy Bunny

Funny that you brought this up, it is 4 years old and two years ago I was removing a roast, a small amount of drippings dropped onto the inner glass door, it sounded as if a gun had been fired in the kitchen and it also shattered. GE replaced it, no questions asked. This time they are trying to cite the age of the oven and asked if there was possibly a crack in the glass door. (There was no crack, I just cleaned the oven last week.)

Hmmm...

Since it was a tempered glass door, it couldn't just be cracked; the expected behavior of tempered glass is to shatter into small pieces (safer), not merely crack like plate glass.

1118 jcm  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:11:20am

re: #1100 Ward Cleaver

Oh, that one. Insert some special ops guys to generate targeting information, then put some laser-guided bombs on the bad actors.

Possibly a series of rescue ops for the other hostages.

It's would be problematic an a lot of levels to blow up pirate infrastructure such as it is and have the remaining hostages get executed.

Pirates needed to be taken out. But the other hostages are a consideration, they aren't American so it makes the whole thing a mess.

The lesson is, deal with thugs early and you avoid all kinds of problems.

1119 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:11:43am

re: #1112 Kosh's Shadow

Or, since they're Muslim pirates (and the Muslims have a history of piracy),
Allah Ackbarrrrrr!
(Must be hard to be a Muslim pirate; no rum!)

* * * *
They get Somali beauties, Mercedes Benzes and BMWs, what's not to like?

1120 aussiemagpie  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:11:45am

Goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!

Tonight's view of OZ.....

Sydney, my hometown!

1121 vxbush  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:11:56am

re: #1118 jcm

Possibly a series of rescue ops for the other hostages.

It's would be problematic an a lot of levels to blow up pirate infrastructure such as it is and have the remaining hostages get executed.

Pirates needed to be taken out. But the other hostages are a consideration, they aren't American so it makes the whole thing a mess.

The lesson is, deal with thugs early and you avoid all kinds of problems.

Well, I would argue it's not safer for little kitty paws.....especially when they think the pieces are toys to bat around.

1122 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:12:23am

re: #1086 avanti

re: #1098 JacksonTn

No ... that was not my point ... two wrongs do not make a right ... I hope that people continue to protest on both sides when they see something they do not agree with ... that is our right ... I hope that both sides will stop with the crazy ... but I have just seen way more "hatred" from the left at their protests ... and things being done that would be almost considered "hate crimes" if directed at Obama ...

When I start seeing people like SCROTUM MAN and these 60's leftovers Image: IMG_2515.JPG at Tea Party protests, i'll equate them with the left. Until then, as long as the Tea Party protesters are like this Image: 85-teaparty_LOCAL_TEAPARTY2_LEWIS.standalone.prod_affiliate.50.jpg (notice people holding AMERICAN FLAGS,, not Che T-Shirts) I'll feel fine

1123 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:12:31am

re: #1118 jcm

Possibly a series of rescue ops for the other hostages.

It's would be problematic an a lot of levels to blow up pirate infrastructure such as it is and have the remaining hostages get executed.

Pirates needed to be taken out. But the other hostages are a consideration, they aren't American so it makes the whole thing a mess.

The lesson is, deal with thugs early and you avoid all kinds of problems.

As usual, we'll have to do all the heavy lifting, as the Euros are more inclined to just keep opening their wallets.

1124 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:12:52am

re: #1119 alegrias

* * * *
They get Somali beauties, Mercedes Benzes and BMWs, what's not to like?

I didn't realize they drove cARRRs.

1125 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:13:01am

re: #1111 avanti

Not to be a pain, but where did you hear he jumped in the water a second time, I saw that nowhere ?

They did report that initially the other day. They never officially retracted that, but simply stopped saying it? Hopefully we will never know what really happened. Let the Pirates be nervous. Anyway the Captain was saved and the bad guys went down, that is what is important anyway.

1126 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:13:38am

re: #1116 alegrias

* * *
many news outlets reported this yesterday. Don't you remember the Capt. jumped in and was captured once before?

Then he did it again yesterday. According to news reports, IF they're to be trusted.

You lost me. All the reports I read on the second incident said the snipers saw one pirate pointing a gun at the captain and when they got a clear shot they took them all out.
I'll go back and double check.

1127 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:13:43am

re: #1124 SasquatchOnSteroids

I didn't realize they drove cARRRs.

Well Chevy my timbers.

1128 Pietr  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:14:00am

Must go out for a bit....BBL, Lizard Nation....

1129 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:14:27am

re: #1126 avanti

You lost me. All the reports I read on the second incident said the snipers saw one pirate pointing a gun at the captain and when they got a clear shot they took them all out.
I'll go back and double check.

Don't bother, the reports are all over the place.

1130 JustABill  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:14:42am

re: #107 karmic_inquisitor

Hey - did you realize that you are almost at "karmic convergence?"

Your karma count is only 103 from matching your number of posts. 1 for 1.

So, is it Karmic Divergence when a lurker makes his first post?

1131 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:15:09am

re: #1120 aussiemagpie

Goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!

Tonight's view of OZ.....

Sydney, my hometown!

* * *
Sleep well, thanks for the pics. My father left the Vietnam war for a week of Rest & Recreation in Sydney Aus. and loved it, plus your Opera House was hosting a Russian ballet dancer he liked, Maya Plisetskaya, so Australia was heaven to US troops at war.

1132 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:15:42am

re: #1124 SasquatchOnSteroids

I didn't realize they drove cARRRs.

* * *
Silly rabbit, they PIRATE them!

1133 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:15:49am

re: #1127 Kosh's Shadow

Well Chevy my timbers.

Nice.

1134 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:15:56am

re: #1129 Nevergiveup

Don't bother, the reports are all over the place.

Yes, at one point, the captain was taking a leak, another had the pirates out of ammo.

1135 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:16:04am
1136 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:16:24am

re: #1127 Kosh's Shadow

Well Chevy my timbers.

You're DODGEing the issue

1137 jcm  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:17:08am

re: #1123 Ward Cleaver

As usual, we'll have to do all the heavy lifting, as the Euros are more inclined to just keep opening their wallets.

Yep. Up till now it's been European and Asia shipping that's been target and the Euro weenies paid off.

That's our lot in the World. Trash Removal.

Putting on cold hard son of bitch hat.

We tell the Euro Weenies will we be destroying any and all pirate targets in the near future. We are going to do so with minimal risk to US Troops, no rescue ops. If the Euro Weenies what rescue ops, they have to pony up, funds, special ops troops, ships.

1138 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:17:11am

re: #1126 avanti

You lost me. All the reports I read on the second incident said the snipers saw one pirate pointing a gun at the captain and when they got a clear shot they took them all out.
I'll go back and double check.

Well how could they see the pirate pointing a gun at the Captain if he was inside an enclosed boat?

If the Capt. jumped in, then it makes sense the snipers could see the pirate(s) aiming at him; otherwise it makes no sense.

1139 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:17:29am

re: #1134 avanti

Yes, at one point, the captain was taking a leak, another had the pirates out of ammo.

I never heard the leak one. That would be a new one.

1140 jdog29  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:18:49am

The reason the left is trying to mock the tea parties is because they know when the producers of society take time out of THEIR schedules to protest it is much more serious compared to when a bunch of unemployed people on gov't benefits and government workers taking one of their personal days along with students writing papers on the impact of political unrest get together to burn an American Flag will ever be.

1141 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:18:54am

re: #1075 Lincolntf

Don't worry, we'll all know you're thinking it.

LOL!

1142 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:19:11am

re: #1136 sattv4u2

You're DODGEing the issue

Actually, I'm feeling a lot of Fury towards the pirates.

1143 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:19:23am

re: #1076 Ward Cleaver

Yep, that's right out.

I'd need a gag.

1144 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:19:30am

re: #1101 littleoldlady

Not The Mama. ;-)

1145 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:19:49am
1146 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:19:49am

re: #1077 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody mentioned the red headline on Drudge?

and the Vegas odds charts say...

1147 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:20:05am

re: #1135 Iron Fist

The leadership of the Republicans is simply void. Eventually someone will fill it,

Mitt Romney is doing yeomans work behind the scenes, meeting with influential groups large and small.

Newt Gingrich has been very public lately, hitting the radio/ TV show circuits while promoting a wide range of conservative issues

Look for one of them to emerge within a year or so, gearing towrads 2012

1148 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:20:50am

re: #1135 Iron Fist

* * *
Iron Fist,
Michael Steele's JOB as head of the RNC is simply to RAISE MONEY.

There is no "LEADING" when you LOSE elections in the US. If you're paying any attention, you will note there are brave young, middle aged and old GOP people in Congress doing what they can using legislative maneuvers to keep Pelosi's people from getting 100% of what they, the WINNERS, want.

1149 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:20:58am

re: #1144 Dustyvet

[Video]

1150 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:21:07am

re: #1142 Kosh's Shadow

Actually, I'm feeling a lot of Fury towards the pirates.

Simma down now.

1151 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:21:11am

re: #1053 Dianna

It would be better for the overall image of these Tea Parties if one of those rules was "stay focused on the message" or "don't come to protest unrelated things" or something of that nature.

I think that could be read as "Conspiracy theorists, troofers, and Paulians need not apply" and would serve to differentiate between a legitimate group with a legitimate grievance from the lefty-style quasi-professional protest which has idiots protesting everything under the sun regardless of whatever the "theme" is supposed to be.

But I'm sure those Paulestinians and Alex Jones worshiping douchebags would show up anyway even if it was in the rules.

1152 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:21:58am

re: #1140 jdog29

* * **
Yes, that's it. Thank you.

1153 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:21:59am

re: #1138 Russkilitlover

Well how could they see the pirate pointing a gun at the Captain if he was inside an enclosed boat?

If the Capt. jumped in, then it makes sense the snipers could see the pirate(s) aiming at him; otherwise it makes no sense.

Lots of confusing reports on this.
First reports indicated he did jump in to the water a 2nd time;
however, later reports, I think, said that they could see through a window that one pirate was pointing a gun at him while he was tied up; the other two popped their heads up out of a hatch for fresh air and became visible that way.

1154 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:22:12am

re: #1148 alegrias

* * *
Iron Fist,
Michael Steele's JOB as head of the RNC is simply to RAISE MONEY.

AND to identify and fund worthy congressional and senatorial candidates

1155 redstateredneck  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:22:16am

re: #1147 sattv4u2


The leadership of the Republicans is simply void. Eventually someone will fill it,

Mitt Romney is doing yeomans work behind the scenes, meeting with influential groups large and small.

Newt Gingrich has been very public lately, hitting the radio/ TV show circuits while promoting a wide range of conservative issues

Look for one of them to emerge within a year or so, gearing towrads 2012

I heard Newt was considering a third party run for the White House. Don't remember where I heard it, though.

1156 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:22:50am

re: #1083 Dianna

I won't. I may express disagreement, but I'm not much for name-calling. There's so much of that, and it doesn't advance things at all.

I would never shout it out in public. Although Cohen v. California would keep me free from legal hassle (or, would get the charges of public profanity dropped in a hearing), it's just not polite.

1157 Dianna  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:22:56am

re: #1151 ArchangelMichael

Agreed, but...free speech is free speech.

I don't have to like it, or ignore it, but they have a right to be there, too. It's the job of those of us who care to speak up against the loons.

1158 Colonel Panik  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:23:14am

re: #1155 redstateredneck

I heard Newt was considering a third party run for the White House. Don't remember where I heard it, though.

Newt is busy with his "American Solutions" PAC. The "Drill Here, Drill Now" people.

1159 redc1c4  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:23:33am

re: #1150 SasquatchOnSteroids

Simma down now.

Camrey all just get along?

1160 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:23:41am

re: #1151 ArchangelMichael

But I'm sure those Paulestinians and Alex Jones worshiping douchebags would show up anyway even if it was in the rules.

The local and national organizers are Paulians. They are leading the movement. There's no way to keep them out now, it's their show.

1161 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:23:44am

We started feeding three stray kitties last year, I love them but can't have one due to hubby and son's allergies. We built a kitty condo and buy them special food and treats. The problem is word has gotten out in stray-kitty land that our house is THE place to congregate. We have seen a total of 8 furry friends lounging by the pool and eating the kitty food. I don't want them euthanized, which is what the SPCA and animal control will do if they are trapped and brought in because they are considered feral cats. The original three will allow me to get about a foot or so away from them, the others run like the wind if you get within 10 feet of them. I don't want to see them euthanized but I also do not want a stray cat population explosion.

Suggestions from the "cat-loving" Lizards would be appreciated.

1162 avanti  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:24:10am

re: #1138 Russkilitlover

Well how could they see the pirate pointing a gun at the Captain if he was inside an enclosed boat?

If the Capt. jumped in, then it makes sense the snipers could see the pirate(s) aiming at him; otherwise it makes no sense.


According to the story at the link, through a hatch. My theory ? The captain was taking a leak, or away from the pirates for a moment and they took the shot. The gun at the captains head story came out later to show he was in immediate danger and that's fine with me.

sniper.

1163 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:24:24am

re: #1155 redstateredneck

I heard Newt was considering a third party run for the White House. Don't remember where I heard it, though.

Speculation from the left. Newt knows that any viable 3rd party (viable meaning 5% or more) would hurt the repubs chances of regaining the White House, in the same way it delivered the White House to Clinton

1164 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:24:43am

re: #1161 Fluffy Bunny

Stop feeding them.

1165 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:24:48am

On the phone with GE...thanks for all of the input!

1166 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:24:59am

re: #1158 Colonel Panik

Newt is busy with his "American Solutions" PAC. The "Drill Here, Drill Now" people.

he's also very involved with the Atlant Georgia Tea Party people

1167 jcm  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:25:25am

re: #1145 Iron Fist

They need to do more than consider it. At the end of the day, if you kill enough of them the problem will go away. Somolia may still be a hell hole (I really can't imagine what it would take to clean it up. Getting rid of Mohammedanism would be a start, but it would only be a start), but these jolly pirates will find other means of making a buck other than public suicide by SEAL.

Somalia is a screwed if you do and screwed if you don't situation.

It's a failed state.

We take out the pirates, somebody else will be at it in a few years. Which means will be always working over targets in Somalia.

Somalia is also taking the place of Afghanistan. The next 9/11 it could easily come out of Somalia.

Somalia is FUBAR. Question is what's the long term threat level to the US. Is it high enough for us to do something?

1168 Colonel Panik  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:25:37am

re: #1166 sattv4u2

he's also very involved with the Atlant Georgia Tea Party people

Good!

1169 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:25:37am

re: #1160 Killgore Trout

The local and national organizers are Paulians. They are leading the movement. There's no way to keep them out now, it's their show.

Which is why I'm not a supporter of these things at the moment, and why rational conservatives should abandon this particular tactic at this time.

1170 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:26:09am

re: #1144 Dustyvet

I can always count on you! ;-)

Dustyvet! :-)

1171 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:26:16am

re: #1145 Iron Fist

They need to do more than consider it. At the end of the day, if you kill enough of them the problem will go away. Somolia may still be a hell hole (I really can't imagine what it would take to clean it up. Getting rid of Mohammedanism would be a start, but it would only be a start), but these jolly pirates will find other means of making a buck other than public suicide by SEAL.


How?

I'm not sticking up for them but, it's not like they can just pack lunches and go down to the factory or the corner convenience for their shifts.

1172 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:26:25am

re: #1159 redc1c4

Camrey all just get along?


We need to all be in Accord.

1173 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:27:15am

re: #1172 Golem Akbar

We need to all be in Accord.

Our civic duty?

1174 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:27:42am

re: #1161 Fluffy Bunny

[Link: www.hsus.org...]

1175 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:27:50am

re: #1161 Fluffy Bunny

idea #2:
a) Hav-a hart traps
b) barrel of water to dunk the traps
c) tastes like chicken

1176 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:27:52am

re: #1157 Dianna

Agreed, but...free speech is free speech.

I don't have to like it, or ignore it, but they have a right to be there, too. It's the job of those of us who care to speak up against the loons.

How about physically separating the loons from the rest? Walk away from the loons every time they get near you.

1177 Dianna  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:27:54am

re: #1161 Fluffy Bunny

We started feeding three stray kitties last year, I love them but can't have one due to hubby and son's allergies. We built a kitty condo and buy them special food and treats. The problem is word has gotten out in stray-kitty land that our house is THE place to congregate. We have seen a total of 8 furry friends lounging by the pool and eating the kitty food. I don't want them euthanized, which is what the SPCA and animal control will do if they are trapped and brought in because they are considered feral cats. The original three will allow me to get about a foot or so away from them, the others run like the wind if you get within 10 feet of them. I don't want to see them euthanized but I also do not want a stray cat population explosion.

Suggestions from the "cat-loving" Lizards would be appreciated.

Trap them and have them spayed and neutered. Otherwise, you are creating a feral cat population that carries diseases that pets will pick up.

That, or stop feeding them.

1178 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:28:02am

re: #1173 ArchangelMichael

Our civic duty?

Tahoe are you speaking too?

1179 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:28:09am

Damn, It Just Got Harder To Hate The New Star Trek Movie
—DrewM.

I'm so not excited about this new movie. Mostly it's because I'm getting older and I'm pretty sick of people fucking around with (and usually fucking up) some of the coolest things from my childhood. Yeah Lucas, I'm looking at you.

That said, as much as I want to hate this movie and everyone who is involved with it, I don't think that's going to be possible. You see, the movie had a special premiere, with the cast and all, at a military base in Kuwait.

Here's part of one soldier's experience.

The cast went out of their way to entertain us before and after the movie was shown. They were more than happy to interact with the soldiers (Eric Bana leaped out of his “reserved” seat and sat next to a female soldier who invited him next to her) and they took their time describing their experiences making the film and answering questions and requests (Quinto obliged a soldier who asked him to call his daughter back in the states and say hello to her). I was truly impressed and grateful in the fact that they went out of their way to thank us and to offer this film to us. I’ll admit that this review won’t be as objective as it could because of the way the cast lent themselves to us. My biggest thrill was walking up to J.J. Abrams after the film and having the opportunity to give him my general impressions of it. How many times does a geek like me get a chance to do that?

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

Maybe I'll actually go to the Movies and pay for a ticket-something I haven't done in 5 years or so?

1180 jcm  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:28:17am

re: #1172 Golem Akbar

We need to all be in Accord.

It would be Valiant but doomed effort.

1181 redstateredneck  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:28:22am

re: #1158 Colonel Panik

Newt is busy with his "American Solutions" PAC. The "Drill Here, Drill Now" people.

Okay, after a little research what I heard must have been someone's speculative reaction to this speech.

"If the Republicans can’t break out of being the right wing party of big government, then I think you would see a third party movement in 2012, Gingrich said during an address to students at the College of the Ozarks in Missouri.
1182 redc1c4  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:28:34am

re: #1172 Golem Akbar

We need to all be in Accord.

that's going to quite a Challenger

1183 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:28:48am

re: #1172 Golem Akbar

We need to all be in Accord.

There can be only One

-Highlander

1184 jaunte  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:28:52am

Some opportunities for Somalia:

Somalia's economy, one of the poorest in the world, is an agricultural one based primarily on livestock and, to a lesser extent, on farming. Livestock accounts for about 40% of GDP and a large percentage of export earnings, mainly from Saudi Arabia; bananas are the main cash crop and account for nearly 50% of export earnings. Other crops produced for domestic consumption are cotton, maize, and sorghum. There are plans to develop the fishing industry. Northern Somalia is the world's largest source of incense and myrrh. There has been little exploitation of mineral resources, which include petroleum, uranium, and natural gas.
[Link: www.nationsencyclopedia.com...]
1185 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:28:56am

re: #1171 MandyManners

How?

I'm not sticking up for them but, it's not like they can just pack lunches and go down to the factory or the corner convenience STORE for their shifts.

1186 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:29:35am

re: #1161 Fluffy Bunny

We started feeding three stray kitties last year, I love them but can't have one due to hubby and son's allergies. We built a kitty condo and buy them special food and treats. The problem is word has gotten out in stray-kitty land that our house is THE place to congregate. We have seen a total of 8 furry friends lounging by the pool and eating the kitty food. I don't want them euthanized, which is what the SPCA and animal control will do if they are trapped and brought in because they are considered feral cats. The original three will allow me to get about a foot or so away from them, the others run like the wind if you get within 10 feet of them. I don't want to see them euthanized but I also do not want a stray cat population explosion.

Suggestions from the "cat-loving" Lizards would be appreciated.

Find a good allergist?

1187 redc1c4  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:29:41am

re: #1183 SasquatchOnSteroids

There can be only One

-Highlander

all the rest are KIA......

1188 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:29:52am

re: #1161 Fluffy Bunny

We started feeding three stray kitties last year, I love them but can't have one due to hubby and son's allergies. We built a kitty condo and buy them special food and treats. The problem is word has gotten out in stray-kitty land that our house is THE place to congregate. We have seen a total of 8 furry friends lounging by the pool and eating the kitty food. I don't want them euthanized, which is what the SPCA and animal control will do if they are trapped and brought in because they are considered feral cats. The original three will allow me to get about a foot or so away from them, the others run like the wind if you get within 10 feet of them. I don't want to see them euthanized but I also do not want a stray cat population explosion.

Suggestions from the "cat-loving" Lizards would be appreciated.

When you have one cat, he/she puts up a neon sign on your house, that says "STRAY CATS EAT FREE".

Check your areas - there may be organizations that "rescue" cats; one organization here will spay or neuter stray cats then release them back into the same area they were found, but you have to trap and bring the cat to them. Not the best solution, but . . .bottom line is that a lot of people just don't like cats and they are hard to find a home for.

Animals in the wild live a difficult life, and will often die a violent or difficult and painful death, through starvation, idiots targeting them with their cars, other animals, etc. I know you don't like the thought of sending them somewhere where they will be euthanized, but in some cases there just isn't a better solution.

1189 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:30:15am
1190 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:30:25am

re: #1179 Nevergiveup

That's very cool. I'm not a Trekker at all, but I plan to see it. If I have to pay $10 to see a movie in theaters, I want lots of shiny things blowing up or very attractive actors (preferably both). Anything else, I wait for DVD.

1191 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:30:48am

re: #1184 jaunte

Some opportunities for Somalia:

Won't they need some start-up capital to purchase farms?

1192 redstateredneck  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:31:04am

re: #1188 reine.de.tout

Hey, {reine} didja see my bingo this morning?
What a way to start the day!
:-)

1193 jaunte  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:31:05am

re: #1189 buzzsawmonkey

Gee, myrrh and myrrhdur both.

Now they're more incensed than ever.

1194 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:31:32am

re: #1150 SasquatchOnSteroids

Simma down now.

I was Titaning up thinking about Ramming them a new one.

1195 Dianna  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:31:36am

I need coffee. Back shortly.

1196 redc1c4  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:31:37am

re: #1193 jaunte

Now they're more incensed than ever.

no peppermints?

1197 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:32:13am

re: #1192 redstateredneck

Hey, {reine} didja see my bingo this morning?
What a way to start the day!
:-)

Yep. Great play.
We must catch up to VX.
I was about there and then she scored 100 pts!
She's tough to beat . . .

1198 jaunte  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:32:32am

re: #1196 redc1c4

no peppermints?

In thyme, perhaps.

1199 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:32:44am

Ten Things You Can Do For Feral or Domestic Cats


[Link: muttcats.com...]

1200 redc1c4  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:32:46am

re: #1194 Kosh's Shadow

I was Titaning up thinking about Ramming them a new one.

Jeepers, you're a bit angry today...

1201 J.S.  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:33:00am

re: #1116 alegrias

Yesterday, CNN was reporting that the Captain had (once again) jumped into the water. Today, that's been revised...new details...apparently, the lifeboat was being towed (there was a tow line), and SEALS had parachuted onto the USS Bainbridge...from there the snipers took up their positions...they then noted that one of the pirates had an AK-47 aimed at the back of the captain, and it was at that point that the decision was made to take out the pirates.

1202 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:33:08am

re: #1155 redstateredneck

I heard Newt was considering a third party run for the White House. Don't remember where I heard it, though.

* * *
Ughhh. I respect Newt but he's fat, frumpy and not camera friendly. Newt's making plenty of money with his American Solutions group, his movies, etc.

1203 redc1c4  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:33:13am

re: #1198 jaunte

In thyme, perhaps.

only a sage would think that way.

1204 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:33:20am

re: #1196 redc1c4

no peppermints?

the color of thyme

1205 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:33:47am

re: #1197 reine.de.tout

Yep. Great play.
We must catch up to VX.
I was about there and then she scored 100 pts!
She's tough to beat . . .

Can we combine all of our scores? We might get within striking distance that way.

1206 redstateredneck  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:34:15am

re: #1197 reine.de.tout

Yep. Great play.
We must catch up to VX.
I was about there and then she scored 100 pts!
She's tough to beat . . .

Very tough. She can find plays I never dreamed of.

1207 redc1c4  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:34:20am

re: #1204 Capitalist Tool

the color of thyme

cumin.... you can do better than that.

1208 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:34:56am

re: #1084 Fluffy Bunny

Funny that you brought this up, it is 4 years old and two years ago I was removing a roast, a small amount of drippings dropped onto the inner glass door, it sounded as if a gun had been fired in the kitchen and it also shattered. GE replaced it, no questions asked. This time they are trying to cite the age of the oven and asked if there was possibly a crack in the glass door. (There was no crack, I just cleaned the oven last week.)

Hmmm...

GE sucks. When I replaced my oven 5 years ago, I got a Kitchen Aid.

1209 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:35:01am

re: #1179 Nevergiveup

I don't know if I'll be able to drag anyone I know in town to see it (I'm sure my gf will veto the idea if I try to take her), but it's the first movie I've actually considered paying to go see in almost 4 years. This bit of info makes me less concerned about "giving those Hollyweird commies any of my money" than I would normally be.

1210 redstateredneck  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:35:06am

re: #1202 alegrias

* * *
Ughhh. I respect Newt but he's fat, frumpy and not camera friendly. Newt's making plenty of money with his American Solutions group, his movies, etc.

A lightning rod, too.

1211 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:35:12am

re: #1207 redc1c4

cumin.... you can do better than that.

Who cares what games we choose
little to win but nothing to lose

1212 capitalist piglet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:35:28am

re: #541 Last Mohican

I just read the NYT article. I'm going to quote that paragraph that you quoted again:


This would seem to imply that Obama had actively refused to allow the use of force prior to Saturday morning, even if Captain Phillips' life was in imminent danger (which, of course, it was, from the very beginning of the pirate attack). Or maybe he didn't actively refused, maybe he just sort of voted "present" and was too scared to make a decision until Saturday. Either way, I guess that might explain why the Navy didn't neutralize the pirates on the boat the first time Phillips jumped overboard.

Again, I don't want try to make this a story about Obama. It really isn't, and I don't believe in turning everything into an attack on him. This is a story about some violent criminals, a very brave commercial captain and crew, and some highly skilled sailors who saved an innocent life by doing their job well.

However, the NYT article makes it appear that anyone who's trying to turn this into a victory for Obama, or an example of his leadership skills (the Kos Kids, for example), is getting it all wrong. The NYT article would seem to imply that Obama screwed this up pretty badly, risking Captain Phillips' life for no reason, before he relented and allowed the use of force.

Yes, that's why I found it notable. It's different from the meme that is taking over the rest of the media. I keep reading that Obama twice signed off on orders to take action, which is something different than being approached more than once, being slow to decide, and once deciding, making sure the parameters were narrowly constructed.

Having said that, it was a great day, and I am thankful that it turned out the way it did.

1213 redstateredneck  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:35:55am

re: #1205 doppelganglander

Can we combine all of our scores? We might get within striking distance that way.

Tag team her ass!
:D

1214 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:35:58am

Italian Jews and Holocaust survivors are rushing to aid communities that sheltered them during World War II and were hit by last week's devastating earthquake.

A delegation of some 20 elderly survivors and their descendants, as well as Jewish community leaders, roamed the shattered countryside of central Italy on Monday, looking for their one-time saviors, now living in tent camps.


[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Nice story.

1215 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:36:07am

re: #1184 jaunte

Some opportunities for Somalia:

There has been little exploitation of mineral resources, which include petroleum, uranium, and natural gas.


Another Muslim energy-producing country. They'll be pirates either way.

1216 redc1c4  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:36:16am

re: #1209 ArchangelMichael

I don't know if I'll be able to drag anyone I know in town to see it (I'm sure my gf will veto the idea if I try to take her), but it's the first movie I've actually considered paying to go see in almost 4 years. This bit of info makes me less concerned about "giving those Hollyweird commies any of my money" than I would normally be.

you didn't go see "Gran Torino"?

heathen!

1217 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:36:32am

re: #1207 redc1c4

cumin.... you can do better than that.

Basil us with your brilliance.

1218 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:36:46am

re: #1201 J.S.

Yesterday, CNN was reporting that the Captain had (once again) jumped into the water. Today, that's been revised...new details...apparently, the lifeboat was being towed (there was a tow line), and SEALS had parachuted onto the USS Bainbridge...from there the snipers took up their positions...they then noted that one of the pirates had an AK-47 aimed at the back of the captain, and it was at that point that the decision was made to take out the pirates.

* * *
Thank you for clarifying. As someone else said upthread, maybe it's best we NEVER know what really happened, don't disclose our military methods, since Al Qaeda is in Somalia and taking notes, along with the pirates and all others who hate us.

1219 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:36:52am

re: #1205 doppelganglander

re: #1206 redstateredneck

I find I am having to try my plays several ways to see what the best score is. Once I found a better-scoring play using a double-word block than the play I could have made on the triple-word block. You just have to lay 'em out and compute the score to see.

I don't play quite as lazily as I used to.

1220 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:37:12am

re: #1188 reine.de.tout

When you have one cat, he/she puts up a neon sign on your house, that says "STRAY CATS EAT FREE".

Check your areas - there may be organizations that "rescue" cats; one organization here will spay or neuter stray cats then release them back into the same area they were found, but you have to trap and bring the cat to them. Not the best solution, but . . .bottom line is that a lot of people just don't like cats and they are hard to find a home for.

Animals in the wild live a difficult life, and will often die a violent or difficult and painful death, through starvation, idiots targeting them with their cars, other animals, etc. I know you don't like the thought of sending them somewhere where they will be euthanized, but in some cases there just isn't a better solution.


Where we live, my guess is the coyotes and fishers keep the cat population down.

1221 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:37:18am

re: #1175 Capitalist Tool

Mr. Bunny is that you? My husband says the same thing. ; )

I have a weak spot for the original three and would not mind trapping them and paying for thier medical care and neutering. But, they would still have to live outside. Which does not seem like a great life for them either.

Ok, adding the SPCA to the list of calls today. Thanks, Dusty for the link...I am off to read it now!

1222 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:37:46am

re: #1210 redstateredneck

A lightning rod, too.

* * * *
Braintrust material, but a big fat target.

1223 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:38:00am

re: #1193 jaunte

Now they're more incensed than ever.

What? The Franks are Incensed?

1224 redstateredneck  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:38:26am

re: #1219 reine.de.tout

re: #1206 redstateredneck

I find I am having to try my plays several ways to see what the best score is. Once I found a better-scoring play using a double-word block than the play I could have made on the triple-word block. You just have to lay 'em out and compute the score to see.

I don't play quite as lazily as I used to.

I'm doing that now, too. I was playing too fast and putting down the first thing I saw without really studying the board.

1225 capitalist piglet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:38:42am

re: #1160 Killgore Trout

The local and national organizers are Paulians. They are leading the movement. There's no way to keep them out now, it's their show.

That's a pretty broad statement, KT. It's a nation-wide movement, being driven by a lot of different leaders. Do you have proof of your claim?

And if I may, I'm genuinely curious: Why have you made it your mission to discourage this?

1226 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:38:51am

re: #1198 jaunte

In thyme, perhaps.

A sage comment.

1227 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:39:01am

re: #1207 redc1c4

cumin.... you can do better than that.

fresh out of oregano ideas

1228 redc1c4  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:39:23am

re: #1225 capitalist piglet

That's a pretty broad statement, KT. It's a nation-wide movement, being driven by a lot of different leaders. Do you have proof of your claim?

And if I may, I'm genuinely curious: Why have you made it your mission to discourage this?

likely the same motivation for his unreasoning hatred of Sarah......

1229 yochanan  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:39:28am

re: #586 pre-Boomer Marine brat

From an egg

were did the egg come from?

what came first the emu or the egg?

1230 JohnnyReb  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:39:42am

re: #1145 Iron Fist

They need to do more than consider it. At the end of the day, if you kill enough of them the problem will go away. Somalia may still be a hell hole (I really can't imagine what it would take to clean it up. Getting rid of Mohammedanism would be a start, but it would only be a start), but these jolly pirates will find other means of making a buck other than public suicide by SEAL.

Somalia and all the other hell holes remain hell holes because of the UN period!

If they wanted to, they could go in and clean that place up in no time. But they won't because they (like Obama and RAM) need a continual crisis to justify their plans and even their existence.

1231 redc1c4  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:39:59am

re: #1229 yochanan

were did the egg come from?

what came first the emu or the egg?

are eggs on the emu menu?

1232 Colonel Panik  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:40:29am

The Tea Party here in Phoenix is being organized by a broad coalition of Republican taxpayers organizations and small business groups. I don't see any sponsors here who look like Paulians. Congressman John Shadegg and KFYI Radio personality and former congressman J.D. Hayworth will be there, along with a lot of State and local Republican figures.

Don't take anyone's word on the Tea Party movement until you have investigated your local Tea Party. The national clearing house is TaxDayTeaParty.com. You can find a link to your local Tea Party there.

1233 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:40:48am

re: #1223 Kosh's Shadow

What? The Franks are Incensed?

Myrrh than ever.

1234 Fluffy Bunny  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:41:31am

re: #1221 Fluffy Bunny

thier = their...Geez! PIMF!

1235 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:41:45am

re: #1212 capitalist piglet

Excuse me! I just fell out of my chair. Did you just say that this was in the NYT? The NYT? Critical of Obama? Holy smokes.

1236 jaunte  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:42:03am

re: #1233 lawhawk

So the Somalis are neither pirates nor terrorists, but simply myrrhauders?

1237 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:42:25am

re: #1233 lawhawk

Myrrh than ever.

dadburn bunch o' patchouligans

1238 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:42:52am

re: #1236 jaunte

So the Somalis are neither pirates nor terrorists, but simply myrrhauders?

I know of 3 of them that have been salted away!

1239 redstateredneck  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:42:58am

re: #1236 jaunte

So the Somalis are neither pirates nor terrorists, but simply myrrhauders?

You are on it today!

1240 quickjustice  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:43:29am

re: #851 lawhawk

You sound like Thomas Jefferson in 1799!

1241 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:43:32am
1242 redstateredneck  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:43:48am

Woot! New thread.

1243 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:44:20am

re: #1220 Kosh's Shadow

Where we live, my guess is the coyotes and fishers keep the cat population down.

Well, yes, there's that too!
I always feel sorry for the stray starving cats that show up and let them eat, even though we only really "own" four cats, we have six right now eating at our house. The two interlopers are very friendly towards people, so they obviously were owned by somebody at some point, who got tired o them, I guess, and "dumped" them in my neighborhood. They were about starved to death when they finally showed up at my house. Pitiful. Domestic cats do not know how to "hunt" for food and will starve to death if they aren't fed.

1244 redc1c4  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:44:32am

re: #1232 Colonel Panik

The Tea Party here in Phoenix is being organized by a broad coalition of Republican taxpayers organizations and small business groups. I don't see any sponsors here who look like Paulians. Congressman John Shadegg and KFYI Radio personality and former congressman J.D. Hayworth will be there, along with a lot of State and local Republican figures.

Don't take anyone's word on the Tea Party movement until you have investigated your local Tea Party. The national clearing house is TaxDayTeaParty.com. You can find a link to your local Tea Party there.

the speaker list for the SFV:
The Tea Party is going to be incredible. Happy to announce a partial list of speakers at the event! They include:

Michael P. Leahy - Founder of Top Conservatives on Twitter. On twitter @michaelpleahy
California State Senator George Runner - his website is here [Link: cssrc.us...]
Evan Sayet - humorist, writer, satirist. His talks to the Heritage Foundation are legendary. Here is one of them: [Link: www.viddler.com...] On Twitter @evansayet

1245 capitalist piglet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:44:59am

re: #1235 Russkilitlover

Excuse me! I just fell out of my chair. Did you just say that this was in the NYT? The NYT? Critical of Obama? Holy smokes.

Yes, but I don't think they intended to be critical. I think they were just reporting straight news, and juxtaposed with the slobbering we've seen since, it just looks like criticism.

1246 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:45:23am

re: #1238 sattv4u2

I know of 3 of them that have been salted away!

I prefer Smoked Salmon myself. But thanks anyway.

1247 robdouth  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:45:47am

re: #1233 lawhawk

Myrrh than ever.

I have to get back to work, this line of sillyness is too spicy for my taste.

1248 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:46:19am

re: #1236 jaunte

So the Somalis are neither pirates nor terrorists, but simply myrrhauders?

GOOD GRIEF>
I will "capture" this pun thread if somebody can point me to where it began.

1249 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:46:31am

re: #1243 reine.de.tout

Somehow, a lot of feral cats survive in Israel. We noted that when we were there, and some Israelis described the cats as being as common there as squirrels are here.
But I will say the cats looked scrawny; I've never seen a scrawny squirrel (or maybe just the fur makes them look fat.
Wait, I'm being attacked by an angry female squirrel.

1250 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:47:44am

re: #1249 Kosh's Shadow

Somehow, a lot of feral cats survive in Israel. We noted that when we were there, and some Israelis described the cats as being as common there as squirrels are here.
But I will say the cats looked scrawny; I've never seen a scrawny squirrel (or maybe just the fur makes them look fat.
Wait, I'm being attacked by an angry female squirrel.

So, cats ain't Kosher?

1251 jaunte  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:47:53am

re: #1248 reine.de.tout

I think it was 1184 and 1189 that started it.

1252 Bob Dillon  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:47:59am

re: #1161 Fluffy Bunny

Check with your local vets. There are some folks that will capture the cats as a public service and the vets donate their services to spay/neuter. Cats are then released.

1253 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:48:58am

re: #1249 Kosh's Shadow

Somehow, a lot of feral cats survive in Israel. We noted that when we were there, and some Israelis described the cats as being as common there as squirrels are here.
But I will say the cats looked scrawny; I've never seen a scrawny squirrel (or maybe just the fur makes them look fat.
Wait, I'm being attacked by an angry female squirrel.

Ah when I tell my three Siamese about their poor cousins in Israel who live outside and don't have warm beds to sleep in they cry their eyes out. They put these little blue and white charity cans out for all our guests to contribute to the poor cats in Israel fund.

1254 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:49:03am

re: #1250 Capitalist Tool

So, cats ain't Kosher?

No; they neither chew their cud nor do they have cloven hooves.
And I guess there aren't many natural cat predators there.

1255 alegrias  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:52:38am

re: #1241 Iron Fist

* * *
Yes, and remember there are fresh new GOP players who canNOT be tarred and feathered for all the mistakes some GOP people made, such as not vetoing undesirable spending, or not CUTTING ENTITLEMENTS the Dems didn't want cut.

1256 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:57:36am
1257 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 9:57:57am

Video: American Traitor Adam Gadahn 3/12/09 Video

Confirmed: Al Qaeda Loves the Left!


[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]

1258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 10:02:04am

re: #1167 jcm

Perhaps if we let some of them move to the upper midwest?

1259 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 10:03:31am

Ooooh! Someone ding me quick! I have devil's karma!

1260 jcm  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 10:12:49am

re: #1258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Perhaps if we let some of them move to the upper midwest?

LOL!

They can hijack trucks loaded with cigarettes!

//

1261 yochanan  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 10:13:20am

re: #1249 Kosh's Shadow

Somehow, a lot of feral cats survive in Israel. We noted that when we were there, and some Israelis described the cats as being as common there as squirrels are here.
But I will say the cats looked scrawny; I've never seen a scrawny squirrel (or maybe just the fur makes them look fat.
Wait, I'm being attacked by an angry female squirrel.

lots of cats in Jerusalem and every 7 years they get well fed shimita year

1262 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 10:42:35am
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1264 Colonel Panik  Mon, Apr 13, 2009 5:19:22pm

re: #1244 redc1c4

TopConservativesOnTwitter are big sponsors of the Tea Parties and probably one reason the movement has grown so fast. They are near the top of the list of sponsors on the national page.

Hugh Hewitt, hardly a Paulian type, (a lot of people call him a RINO) has been pushing TCOT and the Tea Parties on his show.


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