I'm going with the Mos Def concept; my loudly trumpeting my willful ignorance proves my open-mindedness.

/

I think MOM is trying to make a point here?

Nice. I fell like I'm back in school watching those educational films. Just needs to guy with the really great voice.

"I can't explain something...therefore I'll explain it." Brilliant.

re: #3 taxfreekiller

Al Gore is not open minded.

Al is going to get snow in any case.

[Link: www.timberlinelodge.com...]

[Link: www.arapahoebasin.com...]

I love your Al Gore updates.

re: #4 Russkilitlover

Nice. I fell like I'm back in school watching those educational films. Just needs to guy with the really great voice.

Troy McClure?

re: #7 Occasional Reader

Troy McClure?

LOL! His voice narrating Charles' video would be hysterical.

Sounds like my sister talking about the healing powers of crystals...(sigh. You don't choose your family.)

Later.

"It's not a virture to be easily persuaded by people."

Now that's sign verbiage for a Tea Party!

re: #8 Russkilitlover

LOL! His voice narrating Charles' video would be hysterical.

Troy McClure: Hi. I'm Troy McClure, you might remember me from such public service videos as "Designated Drivers, the Lifesaving Nerds" and "Phony Tornado Alarms Reduce Readiness."

re: #9 joncelli

Sounds like my sister talking about the healing powers of crystals...(sigh. You don't choose your family.)

I'll trade you my sister for yours?

If I was open minded, I would already have watched that video. OK, I am semi open minded, I'll watch it now.

re: #13 Nevergiveup

I'll trade you my sister for yours?

I was going to ask the same question.

This is great at this time when so many are making assumptions about what things mean minus real evidence.

re: #4 Russkilitlover

Nice. I fell like I'm back in school watching those educational films. Just needs to guy with the really great voice.

Troy McClure?

/"You might remember me from such educational films as 'Fireworks, the Silent Killer.'"

shouting down conservative speakers at universities? does that count?

re: #7 Occasional Reader

Troy McClure?

GMTA but some type faster than others. RIP Phil Hartman.

I confess, I didn't listen to the whole thing. I am so open minded I dare not post what I really believe.

My lamp shade, shades my eyes from the full glare of the bulb. Am I closed minded because I see no other use for a lamp shade? um

Back into my cave I must go. BTW, was the video a gay thing?

re: #1 Occasional Reader

I'm going with the Mos Def concept; my loudly trumpeting my willful ignorance proves my open-mindedness.

/

And to think that he once held the book containing all the knowledge in the known universe.

Oh great Charles! Now you're alienating the "pro-ghost wiggling lamp-shades" conservatives!

/

re: #15 Cathypop

I was going to ask the same question.

Ah Oh, with 2 offers, I might have to throw in a dinner and Chili's?

What a great topic!

Open minded may have an entire different meaning in the Age of Obama.

THE top suits and some of the on-air talent at CNBC were recently ordered to a top-secret meeting with General Electric CEO Jeffrey Immelt and NBC Universal President Jeff Zucker to discuss whether they've turned into the President Obama-bashing network, Page Six has learned.

"It was an intensive, three-hour dinner at 30 Rock which Zucker himself was behind," a source familiar with the powwow told us. "There was a long discussion about whether CNBC has become too conservative and is beating up on Obama too much. There's great concern that CNBC is now the anti-Obama network. The whole meeting was really kind of creepy."

One topic under the microscope, our insider said, was on-air CNBC editor Rick Santelli's rant two months ago about staging a "Chicago Tea Party" to protest the president's bailout programs -- an idea that spawned tax protest tea parties in other big cities, infuriating the White House. Oddly, Santelli was not at the meeting, while Jim Cramer was, noted our source, who added that no edict was ultimately handed down by the network chieftains.

CNBC flack Brian Steel confirmed the get-together, but insisted: "The dinner was to thank CNBC for a job well done in our in-depth reporting throughout the financial crisis. As far as our coverage is concerned, we are built for balance and we are unabashedly pro-investor."

Our source retorted: "That is complete bull[bleep] . . . they didn't invite a lot of people to [the meeting]. There were many staffers who were working 24/7 during the crisis who weren't asked to attend, even Santelli, who was a big star for the network during those weeks. Why not?"

In addition, the insider said: "News of the meeting is starting to leak out and people are contacting a number of the on-air people to ask if they've been muzzled by GE."

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

re: #21 midwestgak

My lamp shade, shades my eyes from the full glare of the bulb. Am I closed minded because I see no other use for a lamp shade? um

Back into my cave I must go. BTW, was the video a gay thing?

What? No.

re: #24 Nevergiveup

Ah Oh, with 2 offers, I might have to throw in a dinner and Chili's?

Is there an island we can send our weird family members to?

re: #28 Cathypop

Is there an island we can send our weird family members to?

Manhattan?

"I can't explain it therefor I can explain it"... That's Discovery institute flacks.

re: #28 Cathypop

Is there an island we can send our weird family members to?

No.

Besides, my family would probably vote to send me.

re: #30 Thanos

"I can't explain it therefor I can explain it"... That's Discovery institute flacks.

Not "I can't explain it, therefor it cannot be explained?"

re: #32 taxfreekiller

Now be open minded.

"Bad to the Bone"
or

"Who do ya Love"

nice or not?

[Link: www.georgethorogood.com...]

Good!

How about Wanted Man?

One thing I think this video ought to have spoken about more in depth (unless I missed ti, the phone rang), is the idea of projection as well.

Person Y believes This, therefore they will 1) always believe this, 2) adopt classic behaviours of those who believe this, and 3) will always be against that.

Regardless if that is what in fact they believe.

It's what happens to Charles quite often. It's what the Left does. It's what the Right does. And people need to grow up, stop Projecting, and start dealing with facts.

re: #13 Nevergiveup

Is she into crystals? (Or Marija Gimbutas, for that matter?)

Decent video. And an English accent is worth a million bucks in Manhattan-- even if what it's speaking is rubbish! ;-)

re: #26 Opinionated

an idea that spawned tax protest tea parties in other big cities, infuriating the White House.

That right there just puts a big ol' grin on my face :D

re: #32 taxfreekiller

Now be open minded.

"Bad to the Bone"
or

"Who do ya Love"

nice or not?

[Link: www.georgethorogood.com...]

the Delaware shredder...Bad to the Bone

re: #37 joncelli

Is she into crystals? (Or Marija Gimbutas, for that matter?)

No, but she is a raving moonbat liberal. But I'll pay all moving costs.

Being open-minded means I don't have to accept stupid ideas and crack-pot theories at face value? Maybe I should look into being open-minded.

I'm watching the video. And enjoying it. I love the comic-book graphics.

I don't know who this English dude is, but it's clear that one too many people has accused him of being closed-minded because he doesn't believe in ghosts. Man, did he show them.

I don't agree with his assertion at 4:28. I think that "I do not believe X" usually implies "I believe in not-X."

re: #38 quickjustice

Decent video. And an English accent is worth a million bucks in Manhattan-- even if what it's speaking is rubbish! ;-)

I'm going to give you benefit of doubt and assume you're not referring to the video message as rubbish.

re: #33 Creeping Eruption

Not "I can't explain it, therefor it cannot be explained?"

No DI says that anything inexplicable must be god. I can't explain it so it must be god...

This video fits right in. Can't Explain

This is fantastic... I will have to show trhis to my students.

Here is some science on AGW. I posted these links upstairs, but I would rather get have this information in a discussion proper.

Usually, I link to journal papers. These are from the APS and they are written for the educated non-scientist.

[Link: www.aps.org...]
[Link: www.aps.org...]
[Link: www.aps.org...]

re: #45 Thanos

No DI says that anything inexplicable must be god. I can't explain it so it must be god...

Oops. Shows you how much I pay attention to them.

re: #46 Raven1

This video fits right in. Can't Explain

[Video]

speaking of shredders...

re: #9 joncelli
OMG! I have one of those sisters. She does reiki (sp?) and "reads" houses for ghosts, too.

re: #30 Thanos

"I can't explain it therefor I can explain it"

I like that!

I nodded off during the video. Is there going to be a quiz?

re: #37 joncelli

Is she into crystals? (Or Marija Gimbutas, for that matter?)

The change of title of the original book tells us all we need to know!

re: #41 Nevergiveup

Go back to the part about Chilis. Can I get the really big appetizer plate?

re: #53 Dianna

Oh, I didn't keep up with that (since the whole theory was bunk). What was the change?

9:40 ? I don't have that kind of time ! 30 seconds or less ! NOW!NOW!NOW!
(Collapses on floor)

/can't get vid here, I'll check it out tonite.

re: #42 drogheda

Being open-minded means I don't have to accept stupid ideas and crack-pot theories at face value? Maybe I should look into being open-minded.

Go to KOS. They tend to validate stupid ideas/crackpot theories using impeachable logic. It's the "dark side" (over here) they worry about.

What I'm trying to say is that validating or disproving a theory using another theory is a painful process, and usually unproductive, if not downright embarrassing.

re: #50 tappin52

OMG! I have one of those sisters. She does reiki (sp?) and "reads" houses for ghosts, too.

When people realize she is your sister do you tell them there was a mix-up at the hospital when you were born? It really pisses my sister off when I do it.

This vid is also good repartee to some of the close-minded people who try to stuff words in Charles mouth when he posts negative things they don't like. It is what it is and everyone needs to evaluate accordingly.

re: #39 Russkilitlover

That right there just puts a big ol' grin on my face :D

I didn't get a grin from that story. I got a chill learning that in this new age legitimate criticism of a President and his policies may be stifled.

CNBC, right wing?

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's "off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said:
"Feed your head
Feed your head
Feed your head"

Off to some meetings - later everyone.

re: #55 joncelli

Oh, I didn't keep up with that (since the whole theory was bunk). What was the change?

Her original book was The Gods and Goddesses of Ancient Europe. The title was changed to The Goddesses and Gods of Ancient Europe.

As for her other books...I'm not an archeologist, but I read them and thought she'd fallen off the roof.

re: #57 jwb7605

Go to KOS

No! You can't make me! I'm not that open-minded. ;P

re: #61 Silvergirl

I have experienced a couple of things in my life that freaked people out when I told them. What freaked them out more is that I refused to go with a supernatural experience to explain what happened. Weird stuff happens.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy

On a side note, I really want to set up a "haunted house" for one of those cable investigation shows. It would be so easy to fool them.

re: #65 Mithrax

Thanks. I was playing the song in my imagination--may as well watch it!

re: #65 Mithrax

[Video]

heh...I wondered

Charles: Phil over at bad astronomy is recommending the Book Why Evolution is true by Biologist Jerry Cayne.
Among other things Plil says "Creationists love to try to pick apart evolution, looking at minor details in isolation and saying it doesn’t make sense. But they’re wrong: evolution is a beautiful tapestry, a complex fabric of countless threads woven together into a grand picture of life on Earth. And it all holds together.

I strongly recommend this book to anyone with even a passing interest in evolution, or the manufactured controversy of creationism. Coyne’s work is complete and convincing, slamming the door firmly closed on young-Earth creationism. If you have to deal with creationists in your life, this book is something you should keep very handy.
'
Linky:[Link: blogs.discovermagazine.com...]

re: #54 joncelli

Go back to the part about Chilis. Can I get the really big appetizer plate?

And a Beer

re: #66 Emerald

No one would notice.

I forced myself to sit through one episode. My male supplied me with nerf balls to throw, and left the house.

It was safer that way.

I miss the original Scooby Doo.

re: #58 Cathypop

She was recently featured in a local publication under the heading, "Who's Who in the Supernatural". My other sisters and I just rolled our eyes and sighed. Nothing we could do.

re: #63 Dianna

As for her other books...I'm not an archeologist, but I read them and thought she'd fallen off the roof.

So do other archaeologists! I've been reading up on proto-Indo-European and apparently Gimutas did some excellent work before she got hold of this whole "Europe was a matriarchy and just wunnerful until the bad old patriarchal Indo-Europeans arrived" thing. People seem to accept what she wrote before then and ignore everything that came after.

re: #72 tappin52

She was recently featured in a local publication under the heading, "Who's Who in the Supernatural". My other sisters and I just rolled our eyes and sighed. Nothing we could do.

Move an leave no forwarding address?

re: #73 joncelli

Probably a good move.

re: #74 Nevergiveup

Move an leave no forwarding address?

I tried that once and she found me. SHIT!

re: #76 Cathypop

I tried that once and she found me. SHIT!

She used her eerie powers I bet :P

The whole thrust of the film can be summed up by the part in it where he said people are skeptical of skepticism. That's our downfall right there, really. Allow skepticism.

re: #60 Opinionated

I didn't get a grin from that story. I got a chill learning that in this new age legitimate criticism of a President and his policies may be stifled.

CNBC, right wing?

Me either. Story was very scary. I was just commenting on the part I extrapolated about the WH being infuriated. I got a nice mental image from that.

re: #29 Nevergiveup

Manhattan?

They could Escape from New York. It's been done before.

Homeward bound, minions. See you later.

Actually, our late mother totally believed in the supernatural and was sensitive to what she thought were ghosts. She believed our very old farm house to be haunted. I have to admit that some wierd stuff did occur but I never saw or felt anything ghostly.

re: #80 ArchangelMichael

They could Escape from New York. It's been done before.

I think you have to be named snake, or something cool like that.

re: #81 joncelli

re: #81 joncelli

Homeward bound, minions. See you later.

/Wish I was . . .

re: #23 Kenneth

Oh great Charles! Now you're alienating the "pro-ghost wiggling lamp-shades" conservatives!

/

He hates lampshades, obvious.

re: #78 Silvergirl

Science is, by design and intention, very skeptical. All faith based ideologies are by definition and intention anti-skeptical.

Open your mind. Open your mind to me.

/Kuato.

re: #86 Silvergirl

He hates lampshades, obvious.

Only lampshades that participate in Internet Nazi polls.

/

re: #84 Mithrax

Youtube Video

Wow. I googled Grace Slick to see how old she is. Check out her photo taken last year. Those eyes haven't changed.

re: #89 OldLineTexan

First they came for the lampshades, but I was not a lampshade.

Lampshade?

I thought it was a teleprompter.

I was a real sucker for the spooky and supernatural when I was a kid. I was reading Edgar Allen Poe in the fourth grade. My brother and I could get the Ouija board going -- our "ghost" would laugh at us by going back and forth between H and A -- HAHAHAH! Then I grew up.

re: #91 Kenneth

First they came for the lampshades, but I was not a lampshade.

Not yet, anyway ...

/

re: #36 lawhawk

That's a load of dingo's kidneys. :-)

The New York Jets' first two home games are against two of the AFC's elite teams -- the New England Patriots and Tennessee Titans. A large segment of the team's fans might not be able to attend the heavyweight matchups, however.

The Jets' home opener against the Patriots is scheduled during Rosh Hashanah. The next week, the Jets host the Titans hours before Yom Kippur starts. The conflict with the two holiest holidays on the Jewish calendar may keep the team's Jewish fans who observe the holidays from attending.

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

Dam Jews are always causing a problem? ( for the uninformed-Jew here)

re: #93 doppelganglander

I was a real sucker for the spooky and supernatural when I was a kid. I was reading Edgar Allen Poe in the fourth grade. My brother and I could get the Ouija board going -- our "ghost" would laugh at us by going back and forth between H and A -- HAHAHAH! Then I grew up.

Now the Ouija boards go LOL.

re: #97 redstateredneck

Now the Ouija boards go LOL.

;)

I M GOST LOL K THX BAI

re: #98 OldLineTexan

That made me go LOL.

re: #99 redstateredneck

That made me go LOL.

U R OUIJA BRD 2? OMG! HAWT!

re: #96 Nevergiveup

The New York Jets' first two home games are against two of the AFC's elite teams -- the New England Patriots and Tennessee Titans. A large segment of the team's fans might not be able to attend the heavyweight matchups, however.

The Jets' home opener against the Patriots is scheduled during Rosh Hashanah. The next week, the Jets host the Titans hours before Yom Kippur starts. The conflict with the two holiest holidays on the Jewish calendar may keep the team's Jewish fans who observe the holidays from attending.

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

Dam Jews are always causing a problem? ( for the uninformed-Jew here)

Who cares?

There aren't THAT many of us. Even in NY.

re: #97 redstateredneck

Now the Ouija boards go LOL.

FMAL.

re: #79 Russkilitlover

Me either. Story was very scary. I was just commenting on the part I extrapolated about the WH being infuriated. I got a nice mental image from that.

Unfortunately the lesson here may be that when once the Fourth Estate took White House fury as a challenge, today they retreat to do the White House's bidding and curtail criticism.

A bad omen. I know Rick Santelli has seemed less opinionated lately and he didn't attend the very tea parties he instigated.

re: #102 Athens Runaway

FMAL?

Officers Handcuff Documentary Filmmaker at Katie Couric Journalism Award Event

John Ziegler went to USC to witness and ask questions about Katie Couric getting the Walter Cronkite journalism award for her interview of Sarah Palin. He got handcuffed.

re: #103 Opinionated

Unfortunately the lesson here may be that when once the Fourth Estate took White House fury as a challenge, today they retreat to do the White House's bidding and curtail criticism.

A bad omen. I know Rick Santelli has seemed less opinionated lately and he didn't attend the very tea parties he instigated.

Because CNBC had a super secret pow wow to discuss whether or not the station "bashes" Obama.

The link is out there.

re: #101 Ben Hur

Who cares?

There aren't THAT many of us. Even in NY.

Yeah but we know how to call up the Jet's Office and bitch and moan.

re: #88 Ben Hur

So, what's your verdict; was the whole thing a dream, or not?

re: #106 Ben Hur

Because CNBC had a super secret pow wow to discuss whether or not the station "bashes" Obama.

The link is out there.

Above in #26

re: #100 OldLineTexan

U R OUIJA BRD 2? OMG! HAWT!

I love you! I am trying to find a ouija lolcat but I'm coming up empty. Is Goddess in the house? pre-Boomer Marine brat? Anyone?

re: #97 redstateredneck

Now the Ouija boards go LOL.

re: #102 Athens Runaway

FMAL.

re: #104 tappin52

FMAL?

F*** My AfterLife.

re: #108 Occasional Reader

So, what's your verdict; was the whole thing a dream, or not?

Good question.

Would have to hit the bong and watch it again so it would be fresh.

re: #111 Athens Runaway

heavy, man ... heavy

/

re: #110 doppelganglander

I love you! I am trying to find a ouija lolcat but I'm coming up empty. Is Goddess in the house? pre-Boomer Marine brat? Anyone?

How about an 8 Ball one? Remember those?
The answer is ...maybe. Try again.

re: #113 Ben Hur

Good question.

Would have to hit the bong and watch it again so it would be fresh.

Your insatiable appetite for drugs is killing Mexican policemen!

re: #114 OldLineTexan

heavy, man ... heavy

/

There you go talking about mass again. Is there some kind of problem with the Earth's gravity?

Is everyone open minded enough to accept that what they most firmly believe may not be true?

re: #73 joncelli

So do other archaeologists! I've been reading up on proto-Indo-European and apparently Gimutas did some excellent work before she got hold of this whole "Europe was a matriarchy and just wunnerful until the bad old patriarchal Indo-Europeans arrived" thing. People seem to accept what she wrote before then and ignore everything that came after.

She jumped on the Margaret Murray - Jaquetta Hawkes - Riane Eisler bandwagon and left her academic credibility languishing on the cold prairie.

re: #118 BatGuano

Is everyone open minded enough to accept that what they most firmly believe may not be true?

Cogito ergo sum.

I cannot be talked out of it.

re: #116 Occasional Reader

Your insatiable appetite for drugs is killing Mexican policemen!

Wait. I thought it was our insatiable appetite for teh gunz.

re: #105 Kenneth

wow.

I'd like to see a video.

re: #115 VioletTiger

How about an 8 Ball one? Remember those?
The answer is ...maybe. Try again.

Ask the rotating lampshade.

re: #117 Athens Runaway

There you go talking about mass again. Is there some kind of problem with the Earth's gravity?

Mass? I ain't Catholic.

/

Am I close minded if I don't believe Obama has the country's best interests in his mind?

re: #116 Occasional Reader

Your insatiable appetite for drugs is killing Mexican policemen!

Dude, I haven't smoked that Mexican shwag since that naked Indian followed me around the Arizona desert in '92-'94.

Call me when Canadians start getting killed.

re: #115 VioletTiger

How about an 8 Ball one? Remember those?
The answer is ...maybe. Try again.

I had one of those. I'm pretty sure there's one in the White House, too.

Yankees down 10-2 bottom of the ninth but they are rallying? OH G-D what a nightmare.

re: #122 Dianna

wow.

I'd like to see a video.

He was being a major smartass. It was great.

Cops and rent-a-cops hate that, though.

re: #125 NYCHardhat

Am I close minded if I don't believe Obama has the country's best interests in his mind?

No, that's just called self-preservation.

re: #115 VioletTiger

How about an 8 Ball one? Remember those?
The answer is ...maybe. Try again.

My 8 Ball always said, "Cut another line...cut another line..."

re: #120 Occasional Reader

My favorite quote. My daughter had a tee shirt with that on it.

re: #130 Honorary Yooper

No, that's just called self-preservation.

Ahhh. Now I understand.

I am reliably informed that the above video is not available at the discovery institute or the creation museum.
And that this lack of availability is likely to remain so.

re: #127 doppelganglander

I had one of those. I'm pretty sure there's one in the White House, too.

A Magic 8-ball or just an 8-ball? I wouldn't be surprised if either were in the White House.

re: #127 doppelganglander

I had one of those. I'm pretty sure there's one in the White House, too.

He quit, remember?!?

re: #126 Ben Hur

Dude, I haven't smoked that Mexican shwag since that naked Indian followed me around the Arizona desert in '92-'94.

Call me when Canadians start getting killed.

Your insatiable appetite for drugs is causing Mounties to be sometimes less than unfailingly polite!

re: #111 Athens Runaway

F*** My AfterLife.

My daughter just told me about FML last weekend.

re: #133 NYCHardhat

Ahhh. Now I understand.

Yes, it's an evolutionary impulse that we have to preserve ourselves so that we may be able to pass on our genetic material.

I have an open mind. But it's not so open that my brains fall out.

LOLpen-mindedness

re: #135 Creeping Eruption

A Magic 8-ball or just an 8-ball? I wouldn't be surprised if either were in the White House.

I thought they were all MAGIC./

re: #121 ArchangelMichael

Wait. I thought it was our insatiable appetite for teh gunz.

gun rayz CAUZ drugz, DUH

/pp. 1-1 of 1, Nancy Pelosi, Charles Schumer, et. al. "A Causative Study of Violent Crime in the U.S. Southwest - Mexican Border Region, 1972-2006", GSA Printing Office, 2008.

re: #138 redstateredneck

My daughter just told me about FML last weekend.

The web site? My daughter is addicted to it and got me hooked, too. High-larious.

re: #124 OldLineTexan

I'm trying to tell you something of catechismic importance.

And, now, at the Islamic Conference on "The truth about the Holocaust" our next speaker will talk on the subject of Openmindedness...

Perhaps not.

re: #137 Occasional Reader

Take off, eh!

re: #140 Steve Rogers

I have an open mind. But it's not so open that my brains fall out.

If you let your brains fall out, then you'd be a leftist.

re: #120 Occasional Reader

Cogito ergo sum.

I cannot be talked out of it.

I knew you were that Cogito bastidge!

TROLL!

/

Am I the last one to find out about the FML site?

re: #105 Kenneth

Officers Handcuff Documentary Filmmaker at Katie Couric Journalism Award Event

John Ziegler went to USC to witness and ask questions about Katie Couric getting the Walter Cronkite journalism award for her interview of Sarah Palin. He got handcuffed.

I've watched the whole thing...I have no idea what I think.

re: #138 redstateredneck

My daughter just told me about FML last weekend.

F- My Life? My daughter just showed me this over the weekend. Apparently, it is a big hit with the college crowd where she is.

re: #146 A Kiwi Infidel

And, now, at the Islamic Conference on "The truth about the Holocaust" our next speaker will talk on the subject of Openmindedness...

Perhaps not.

Openneckedness more like.

I'm very open minded. But I can't stand narrators with British accents.

Here another issue that evidences a closed mind.

The US believes/insists people will come with a 'Palestinian' state.

Israel disagrees.

U.S. Envoy's Two-State Push Meets Israeli Skepticism

Officials in Mr. Netanyahu's office said his message to Mr. Mitchell was that Israel would not risk the creation of another Hamas-controlled entity on its border. The Islamic militants overran Gaza in 2007, and Mr. Netanyahu has warned that creation of a Palestinian state could place the violent extremists next to Israel in the West Bank.

Also, the Palestinians would have to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, a step they have refused to take so far. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because no statement had been made.

Mr. Mitchell made the administration's goals clear to reporters while standing next to Avigdor Lieberman, the Israeli foreign minister, after their meeting.

"U.S. policy favors … a two-state solution, which would have a Palestinian state living in peace alongside the Jewish state of Israel," Mr. Mitchell said.

In a statement, Mr. Lieberman questioned the basic premise that compromises by both sides would eventually lead to a peace accord.

"The historic approach has so far not brought any result or solution," a statement from Mr. Lieberman's office said. "The minister also said that the new government will have to come up with new ideas and a new approach."

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Both sides are going to insist the other has a closed mind. There is going to be trouble.

re: #103 Opinionated

Unfortunately the lesson here may be that when once the Fourth Estate took White House fury as a challenge, today they retreat to do the White House's bidding and curtail criticism.

A bad omen. I know Rick Santelli has seemed less opinionated lately and he didn't attend the very tea parties he instigated.

I thought Ron Paul was behind the tea parties?
%P%

re: #150 redstateredneck

No, apparently I am.

re: #150 redstateredneck

Am I the last one to find out about the FML site?

Crap linky no worky?

[Link: www.fmylife.com...]

re: #155 Opinionated

The US believes/insists peace will come with a 'Palestinian' state.

Ah nebber should haf played wif dat Ouija bord!

re: #44 jwb7605

The video would have been more effective delivered in a Brooklyn accent, and using New York slang! ;-)

re: #151 Dianna

I've watched the whole thing...I have no idea what I think.

This phrase has me gobsmacked:

"Katie Couric getting the Walter Cronkite journalism award for her interview of Sarah Palin"

Liberal journalism is one big circle jerk.

re: #150 redstateredneck

Am I the last one to find out about the FML site?

This link appears to be broken. Did you mean F*ck My Wife dot com?

re: #156 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

No, Sith-front, Ron Paul, and Andrew Sullivan, all working in concert. Also, flying monkeys.

re: #156 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I thought Ron Paul was behind the tea parties?
%P%

No, Stormfront Nazis.

re: #160 doppelganglander

Ah nebber should haf played wif dat Ouija bord!

Oh noes! Basement cat.

re: #162 Kenneth

Liberal journalism is one big circle jerk.

Media Masturbation is what I've called it.

So, dinner last night was turkey bacon wrapped scallops, red and green peppers on skewers, grilled over a hickory wood fire. Served with grilled corn and some brocolli. Who says healthy has to taste bad!

re: #155 Opinionated

What's your definition of trouble?

re: #163 Ben Hur

This link appears to be broken. Did you mean F*ck My Wife dot com?

NO, BEN!

re: #169 Nevergiveup

What's your definition of trouble?

Jews moving into the neighborhood?

re: #156 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I thought Ron Paul was behind the tea parties?
%P%

This is how it all began: Feb 19, 2009

Rick Santelli calls for Tea party on Floor of Chicago Board of Trade ... Chicago Tea Party

re: #168 ConservatismNow!

So, dinner last night was turkey bacon wrapped scallops, red and green peppers on skewers, grilled over a hickory wood fire. Served with grilled corn and some brocolli. Who says healthy has to taste bad!

me...Beef-O-Roni on a stick is one of my favorites...mmm

re: #169 Nevergiveup

What's your definition of trouble?

We'll find out.

re: #161 quickjustice

The video would have been more effective delivered in a Brooklyn accent, and using New York slang! ;-)

/choose your next woids carefully...

Man, he's getting into logic. How many people still use that stuff anymore?

Brings back memories of my Logic class 3 years ago. Definitely one of the best classes I took in college.

My sister is a staunch Assembly of God-er.

When her boys were teenagers, I went to Wal-Mart looking for a cheap Christmas game gift that they could play together, and ended up buying them a Ouija board.

She made them send it back to me. She was not a happy puppy.

Medved has a couple of people debating creationism and evolution here

re: #173 albusteve

me...Beef-O-Roni on a stick is one of my favorites...mmm

albusteve is skinny case threading the macaroni on the sticks takes a long time and dont forget the beef crumbles even with the sauce chilled they just wont stay on well even tried a putty knife hey saran wrap thats an idea wait just a minute

re: #177 Salamantis

My sister is a staunch Assembly of God-er.

I thought God was supposed to come pre-assembled?

re: #129 OldLineTexan

He was being a major smartass. It was great.

Cops and rent-a-cops hate that, though.

This is nuts. It's private property...but?

Damned if I get this?

Top rated FML:

Today, I received my passport in the mail. They got my birthdate wrong. Then I picked up my birth certificate that I had sent in with the application. Turns out my parents have been celebrating my birthday on the wrong day for 16 years. FML

re: #177 Salamantis

LOL

If she has teenage girls, get them DVDs of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I bet you'll get an earful.

re: #6 KingKenrod

For one, I've never quite got the Al Gore - ski resort connection that tfk is fixated upon... but hey, everyone has their quirks.

re: #179 OldLineTexan

albusteve is skinny case threading the macaroni on the sticks takes a long time and dont forget the beef crumbles even with the sauce chilled they just wont stay on well even tried a putty knife hey saran wrap thats an idea wait just a minute

Have you been into Ben Hur's British Columbia "oregano" stash?

re: #181 Dianna

This is nuts. It's private property...but?

Damned if I get this?

It's private property? Then game over, man. Funny guy loses.

re: #171 Ben Hur

Jews moving into the neighborhood?

Actually put an orthodox synagogue in the neighborhood and watch the value of the houses sky rocket.

re: #174 Opinionated

We'll find out.

I'm afraid your right

re: #185 Occasional Reader

Have you been into Ben Hur's British Columbia "oregano" stash?

mounties ate my dingos kidneys they were however unfailingly polite and offered me a moist towelette and a scone after beating me with a length of curling stick btw curling in canada aint got nothing to do with hair and the stick aint hot but damn it stings even if they do say excuse me chap just regulations you know at every blow

re: #187 Nevergiveup

Actually put an orthodox synagogue in the neighborhood and watch the value of the houses sky rocket.

Not in Ramat Aviv, habibi.

(Ramat Aviv is a uber lib stronghold in North Tel Aviv next to the university)

Some Haredim bought a small building, some started moving into the area because of it, and I started getting flyers in the mail about how to stop them from moving into the neighborhood.

Ahhh...the Israeli left. They hate Jews until they travel outside of Israel and expect that Diaspora Jews still look at them as magical beings.

re: #140 Steve Rogers

I have an open mind. But it's not so open that my brains fall out.

You are confusing open-minded with gullible. Please re-view the video, lol...

re: #119 Salamantis

She jumped on the Margaret Murray - Jaquetta Hawkes - Riane Eisler bandwagon and left her academic credibility languishing on the cold prairie.

Riane Eisler was a follower of Gimbutas. I suffered my way through The Chalice and the Blade, and concluded, sadly, that she wanted her idea to be true to badly for her own good.

re: #190 Ben Hur

Not in Ramat Aviv, habibi.

(Ramat Aviv is a uber lib stronghold in North Tel Aviv next to the university)

Some Haredim bought a small building, some started moving into the area because of it, and I started getting flyers in the mail about how to stop them from moving into the neighborhood.

Ahhh...the Israeli left. They hate Jews until they travel outside of Israel and expect that Diaspora Jews still look at them as magical beings.

I kinda meant here in the USA.

Not to put a damper on the fun here (good video), but I just learned that my neighbor passed away today. He had a chest X-ray two months ago and found cancer and it had already spread to his entire body. A year ago, that chest X-ray was clean.

Two months. He and his family had two months to prepare. Yikes. Prayers for that family, if you please.

re: #190 Ben Hur

Not in Ramat Aviv, habibi.

(Ramat Aviv is a uber lib stronghold in North Tel Aviv next to the university)

Some Haredim bought a small building, some started moving into the area because of it, and I started getting flyers in the mail about how to stop them from moving into the neighborhood.

Ahhh...the Israeli left. They hate Jews until they travel outside of Israel and expect that Diaspora Jews still look at them as magical beings.

And modern orthodox anyway

re: #193 Nevergiveup

I kinda meant here in the USA.

I know.

I was free-writing.

re: #129 OldLineTexan

He was being a major smartass. It was great.

Cops and rent-a-cops hate that, though.

I wrote that when I was under the impression it wouldn't load. The video was just taking its own sweet time.

re: #195 Nevergiveup

And modern orthodox anyway

Saved New Rochelle.

Glen Beck is talking about Charles Johnson

re: #197 Dianna

I wrote that when I was under the impression it wouldn't load. The video was just taking its own sweet time.

So, what did you think of the taunting aspect?

Was it actually private property?

re: #196 Ben Hur

I know.

I was free-writing.

because no one would pay for that tripe?
/

re: #182 Kenneth

Top rated FML:

Did you ever see "Almost Famous?" The main character discovers that his mother lied about his age to get him into school. He thinks he's 14, I think, and he's really 11. "ELEVEN?!?!"

Glenn just called out Charles.

re: #199 BatGuano

Glen Beck is talking about Charles Johnson

He's trying to equate himself with Charles.

re: #194 vxbush

Not to put a damper on the fun here (good video), but I just learned that my neighbor passed away today. He had a chest X-ray two months ago and found cancer and it had already spread to his entire body. A year ago, that chest X-ray was clean.

Two months. He and his family had two months to prepare. Yikes. Prayers for that family, if you please.

How sad. My thoughts are with the family.

re: #199 BatGuano

Glen Beck is talking about Charles Johnson

does he want Charles's autograph and a glossy?

re: #199 BatGuano

Glen Beck is talking about Charles Johnson

What's he saying?

re: #194 vxbush

Prayers for that family, if you please.

You got 'em.

FEAR THE LIZARD KING!

re: #178 Attaboid

Medved has a couple of people debating creationism and evolution here

Michael Medved is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute.

re: #204 NYCHardhat

He's trying to equate himself with Charles.

I'm not open minded

re: #205 doppelganglander

Very sad. I'm sorry to hear that.

Charles was just the subject of a Glenn Beck bit.

Charles needs an agent, and a stylist...

re: #206 albusteve

does he want Charles's autograph and a glossy?

guitar lessons?

bike maintenance tips?

awesome coding skills?

legions of minions?

a cool underground supersecret base?

a cookbook?

what's not to want?

re: #199 BatGuano

Glen Beck is talking about Charles Johnson

Is he being openminded?

re: #200 OldLineTexan

So, what did you think of the taunting aspect?

Was it actually private property?

USC? I think so.

I didn't like the taunting. I thought he sounded juvenile.

re: #214 albusteve

Charles needs an agent, and a stylist...

Please, no! We have enough polished idiots on TV. Let Charles be Charles, and keep his brain intact.

re: #203 DistantThunder

Glenn just called out Charles.

Missed it! I'm sure Charles will post the video the minute it's available. Start the popcorn now.

re: #207 tappin52

It was brief. I don't know. Something about a video?

Glenn siad that the woman saying "burn the books" was investigated and she's was a hard core leftist.

re: #215 OldLineTexan

guitar lessons?

bike maintenance tips?

awesome coding skills?

legions of minions?

a cool underground supersecret base?

a cookbook?

what's not to want?

he want's Charles's hair

Beck was saying that Charles should know about free speech. yada yada. I came in at the tail end. Beck is still a butt-plug. He is so obnoxious.

re: #216 A Kiwi Infidel

Hell no!

re: #175 brookly red

Dodgers in 4! ;-)

re: #214 albusteve

Charles needs an agent, and a stylist...

re: #214 albusteve

No stylist. Not his style.

re: #217 Dianna

USC? I think so.

I didn't like the taunting. I thought he sounded juvenile.

You are right, USC is private. Mr. Funny, as much as I liked the jokes, effed up seriously and hasn't a leg to stand on.

re: #214 albusteve

Charles needs an agent, and a stylist...

Maybe an agent, but I think Charles' style is just fine.

re: #221 DistantThunder

Glenn siad that the woman saying "burn the books" was investigated and she's was a hard core leftist.

Yeah and proof of that will come up in 3, 2, ... what look at the silly monkey!

glen beck just called you out on live TV!

re: #199 BatGuano

Glen Beck is talking about Charles Johnson

Really? I'm looking forward to reading about that here tomorrow. I came back to post this example of the hypocrisy in the left I found at Instapundit

"Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) blasted "tea party" protests yesterday, labeling the activities "despicable" and shameful."

"The ‘tea parties’ being held today by groups of right-wing activists, and fueled by FOX News Channel, are an effort to mislead the public about the Obama economic plan that cuts taxes for 95 percent of Americans and creates 3.5 million jobs," Schakowsky said in a statement."

ha, get this

"“The husband of an Illinois congresswoman pleaded guilty Wednesday to tax violations and bank fraud for writing rubber checks and failing to collect withholding tax from an employee. Robert Creamer, a political consultant married to four-term U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky, could face four years in prison on the two felony counts when he is sentenced Dec. 21.”

Later folks, time to go walk the lab along the American (and it is a beautiful day)

re: #221 DistantThunder

Glenn siad that the woman saying "burn the books" was investigated and she's was a hard core leftist.

Impossible. KT has proven that everyone at a Tea Party is a Stormfront symp.

/

re: #228 Dianna

Maybe an agent, but I think Charles' style is just fine.

it just sounded Hollywoody

I stopped by a tea party yest...
First person I saw was a John Bircher...
Did 5 for tax evasion...

re: #228 Dianna

Maybe an agent, but I think Charles' style is just fine.

Are you kidding?

Did you see those shoes he's wearing today? What was he thinking?!

Ahhh! My blind cords were twisted to lock the blinds into a position in which they reflected maximum sunlight right into my eyes! There must be gremlins in my house!

What's that? There really are small people bent on mischief in my house?

/Never mind.

(Mothers have the same explanation for all random bits of mischief and destruction in their homes.)

re: #221 DistantThunder

Glenn siad that the woman saying "burn the books" was investigated and she's was a hard core leftist.

And everyone was silent from embarrassment, or applauded because they had no idea what she'd said?

Oh, right.

re: #222 albusteve

he want's Charles's hair

hair is where its at these days

re: #198 Ben Hur

My cousin is orthodox, and lives in New Rochelle! (He wishes it was Scarsdale, however!)

re: #223 NYCHardhat

Beck was saying that Charles should know about free speech. yada yada. I came in at the tail end. Beck is still a butt-plug. He is so obnoxious.

Does this mean you are being openminded or closeminded about his right to free speech...just sayin...

//

Gotta run some errands. K thx bai.

re: #237 Dianna

And everyone was silent from embarrassment, or applauded because they had no idea what she'd said?

Oh, right.

I turned her into a newt.

/she got better

re: #232 OldLineTexan

Impossible. KT has proven that everyone at a Tea Party is a Stormfront symp.

/

Let's admit something right now; it's too bad that the word "Stormfront" was co-opted by drooling, inbred Nazis, 'cause it's a pretty cool name. (Think, heavy metal band, for instance.)

re: #235 Occasional Reader

Are you kidding?

Did you see those shoes he's wearing today? What was he thinking?!

lizard green with orange socks...OMGOD!

re: #235 Occasional Reader

Are you kidding?

Did you see those shoes he's wearing today? What was he thinking?!

We saw Charles' shoes?!

re: #240 A Kiwi Infidel

Does this mean you are being openminded or closeminded about his right to free speech...just sayin...

//

Glenn Beck can say anything he wants. So can I. He is a butt-plug.

Thanks for the prayers, lizards. Gotta go home and hug the family.

I still don't have a working cable TV connection in my new underground facility, so I missed Beck. Is he claiming that the woman who shouted "burn the books" is a leftist plant again? Typical.

Let's just ignore the fact that the audience applauded her, and let's ignore the speaker and his bizarre John Bircher ideas.

Look! A Leftist plant!

Critical thinking. Logic. Reason. Skepticism.

These are the things that need to be taught in schools. Videos like this would be a good start, rather than Algore's film.

But let's pretend for a moment that Algore's "An Inconvenient Truth" is nothing but fact. What good does it do to show that film to school children when they haven't the means to rationally evaluate it, nor the means to do anything about it?

re: #248 Charles

I still don't have a working cable TV connection in my new underground facility, so I missed Beck. Is he claiming that the woman who shouted "burn the books" is a leftist plant again? Typical.

Let's just ignore the fact that the audience applauded her, and let's ignore the speaker and his bizarre John Bircher ideas.

Look! A Leftist plant!

send us an autographed glossy and we'll sort it out for ya!

re: #215 OldLineTexan

guitar lessons?

bike maintenance tips?

awesome coding skills?

legions of minions?

a cool underground supersecret base?

a cookbook?

what's not to want?

Don't forget the iPhone.

All cool people have iPhones. [ahem]

re: #246 NYCHardhat

Glenn Beck can say anything he wants. So can I. He is a butt-plug.

I think Glenn Becks head is a butt plug!

re: #248 Charles

yes ans also said you were called anti musloms by the same people attacking him, and that he is peace loving like martin luther king

re: #249 Slumbering Behemoth

Is "An Inconvenient Truth" an argument for mass suicide? If so, Al, you go first! ;-)

re: #248 Charles

I still don't have a working cable TV connection in my new underground facility, so I missed Beck. Is he claiming that the woman who shouted "burn the books" is a leftist plant again? Typical.

Let's just ignore the fact that the audience applauded her, and let's ignore the speaker and his bizarre John Bircher ideas.

Look! A Leftist plant!

He was saying something like you were once called a [muslim-hating bigot] like him. I think he wants you on his side. I know where you stand.

re: #245 Dianna

We saw Charles' shoes?!

Well did YOU think they went with his pearls?

re: #243 Occasional Reader

Let's admit something right now; it's too bad that the word "Stormfront" was co-opted by drooling, inbred Nazis, 'cause it's a pretty cool name. (Think, heavy metal band, for instance.)

OK, Internet Nazis. Internet Keyboard Commando Nazis.

re: #248 Charles

Look! A Leftist plant!

I've always suspected the ferns, myself.

Gotta go, BBIAW

re: #248 Charles

/Beck just mentioned you. You now have credibility!