LGF on Glenn Beck

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I still don’t have a working cable TV connection in my new top-secret underground facility, so I missed Glenn Beck’s show today (I wouldn’t have been watching anyway, to be honest), but I understand from several lizardoid reports that Beck had some things to say about me.

Apparently he claimed that the woman in the video I posted who shouted “Burn the books!” was a leftist infiltrator. Leaving aside this claim (which is unsupported by any real evidence), I guess we’re supposed to ignore the fact that the audience at that “Glenn Beck tea party” actually applauded when she shouted this. And we’re supposed to ignore the speaker ranting about digital cable boxes being “brainwashing devices,” and spouting John Birch Society talking points. And we’re supposed to ignore the moderator, promoting the extreme right-wing/libertarian/Dominionist Constitution Party.

Never mind all that. Hey, look over there! It’s an infiltrator!

UPDATE at 4/16/09 5:19:17 pm:

Here’s the video. The segment where Beck attacks me starts at about 7:45.

Youtube Video

Notice how Beck sneers out the words “jazz musician,” as if they were some kind of mortal insult — as if being an alcoholic, weeping, ranting, creationist talk show host who idolizes John Birchers and Ron Paul is a real accomplishment, but practicing diligently for years, earning several gold records, and touring and recording with some of the world’s top musicians is worthy of derision and scorn.

And then this freak has the gall to compare himself to Martin Luther King Jr.

Glenn Beck is a punk.

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1009 comments
1 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:38:46pm

Beck can't hold a candle to Charles.

2 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:39:33pm
digital cable boxes being “brainwashing devices”

You mean they're not?
/sarc

3 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:40:01pm

re: #1 NYCHardhat

Beck can't hold a candle to Charles.

He better not - people who sling gas cans around worry me.

4 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:40:19pm

On the previous thread.....Glen Beck and his steak-faced over-the-top dialog....


fan favorite.

5 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:41:22pm
6 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:41:55pm

What all was said on Beck's show anyway? I don't (for obvious reasons) have TV at work, so I have no idea what was said either. Could some lizards give us a synopsis of what was said?

7 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:42:09pm

re: #2 Honorary Yooper

You mean they're not?
/sarc

I'm still wondering about the satellite dishes, myself.

8 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:42:45pm

re: #4 NYCHardhat

On the previous thread.....Glen Beck and his steak-faced over-the-top dialog....

fan favorite.

Grill marks? ;)

9 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:43:04pm

Beck is FOX's version of the ShamWow guy....repulsive but you can't take your eye off him

10 simonml  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:43:17pm

You can {gaze} at cable TV when its this bad, right?

11 Emerald  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:43:24pm

One advantage of being an entertainer pandering to the nuts is you don't have to worry about logic, facts or the truth.

12 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:43:31pm
13 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:43:38pm

re: #7 Occasional Reader

I'm still wondering about the satellite dishes, myself.

One word:
Hulu.

It explains several of our favorite actors (including Alec Baldwin) rather well.

14 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:43:59pm

re: #12 taxfreekiller

satellite dishes are for taco salad

That's one big ass taco salad.

15 brookly red  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:44:32pm

re: #3 Dianna

He better not - people who sling gas cans around worry me.

don't worry... just lookin for my lawnmower. yeah lawnmower that's it...

16 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:44:41pm
17 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:44:57pm

re: #11 Emerald

One advantage of being an entertainer pandering to the nuts is you don't have to worry about logic, facts or the truth.

That works well for televangelists as well as John Stewart.

18 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:45:01pm

re: #8 DEZes

Grill marks? ;)

meat-head

19 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:45:17pm

re: #18 NYCHardhat

meat-head

LOL.

20 avirus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:45:35pm

Charles i have to say, you are a hero holding the line aginst crazyness. i think rationality is needed to make america strong, not insanity.people like pamela geller and glenn beck are just crazy and will make the amrican right in danger.

21 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:46:29pm

Didn't see it either.

Did Beck give his "help me here folks" expression of exasperation? Or was it his patented hand against chest and bug eyed "who - me?" expression.

Watched him on CNN from hotels and he has about a catalogue of 4 emotions.

22 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:47:16pm

I don't have a television or cable, so I can't say I saw the show.

Did he give an actual name and how she is connected to the left?

23 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:47:22pm

He said it! he said he has a fat face.

meat-head!

24 rhino2  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:47:48pm

Why can't these people just calm down and point out the facts like a rational human being...it would do wonders.

25 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:47:51pm

re: #21 karmic_inquisitor

Watched him on CNN from hotels and he has about a catalogue of 4 emotions.

Kind of like Keanu Reeves?

(okay, gotta go...)

26 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:48:19pm

re: #25 Occasional Reader

Kind of like Keanu Reeves?

(okay, gotta go...)

re: #25 Occasional Reader

Kind of like Keanu Reeves?

(okay, gotta go...)

Whoa.

27 Hawaii69  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:48:32pm

re: #17 Honorary Yooper

That works well for televangelists as well as John Stewart.

....except that people who watch Jon Stewart realize that they're being entertained.

28 avirus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:48:35pm

re: #22 EmmmieG

he said two clicks on the web was all that needed to find out that she was a liberal makeing fun of the "tae party"

29 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:48:36pm
digital cable boxes being “brainwashing devices

Wow! But that's nothing to that electricity stuff leaking out of electrical sockets and poisoning us all . . .
/

30 Russkilitlover  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:48:55pm

re: #26 NYCHardhat

Whoa.

Deja vu?

31 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:48:55pm

re: #24 rhino2

Why can't these people just calm down and point out the facts like a rational human being...it would do wonders.

because he is a steak-faced ratings whore.

32 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:49:05pm

re: #25 Occasional Reader

Kind of like Keanu Reeves?

(okay, gotta go...)

There, I'll give Keanu some credit. He refused to be in the slow-moving shipwreck called Speed 2.

33 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:49:14pm

re: #30 Russkilitlover

Deja vu?

i know kung fu.

34 Russkilitlover  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:49:30pm

re: #29 reine.de.tout

Wow! But that's nothing to that electricity stuff leaking out of electrical sockets and poisoning us all . . .
/

And the rainbows in the sprinkler moisture....

35 rhino2  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:49:34pm

re: #27 Hawaii69

....except that people who watch Jon Stewart realize that they're being entertained.

I'm not entirely sure thats 100% of the audience. Wasn't there some poll semi-recently amount the % of people who the Daily Show is their main source of news and current events?

36 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:49:34pm

re: #27 Hawaii69

....except that people who watch Jon Stewart realize that they're being entertained.

I'm not so sure of that when you have leftists who watch him for their daily news.

37 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:49:54pm

re: #32 Honorary Yooper

There, I'll give Keanu some credit. He refused to be in the slow-moving shipwreck called Speed 2.

Yeah. Jason Patric needed the work.

38 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:49:59pm

Beck is an opportunist, and an ass, but he is dangerous because he knows how to cultivate the emotions of those who want to believe.

/he'd make one helluva tent preacher on the sawdust trail

39 Egregious Philbin  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:51:00pm

Glen Beck is a tool.

Hey Glen, your stuff was funny back when Hendrie did it, originally.

You are a sideshow hack and your show is just tired old histrionics.

40 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:51:42pm

I swear to God, George Soros is sponsoring Beck. And maybe Fox, too. I can't figure out why they're promoting this psychopath as the face of the Right Wing. He's a horrid embarrassment.

If it really is only about ratings, I guess the upside of this is that such extremism only plays for a short time. Beck and his hemorrhoids will probably be gone in a couple of months, before the midterm election cycle really gets going and his presence starts causing serious damage.

41 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:52:30pm

re: #37 NYCHardhat

Yeah. Jason Patric needed the work.

Cruise control, dang, that movie needed serious script control.

42 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:52:48pm

So we are suppose to be lemmings with a collective agenda towards political power for the right people to lead this country. That objecting to part or whole of that agenda makes us lesser in their eyes and receiving slander and mocker is our just reward. Why in the hell does this sound so familiar?

Charles, keep up the good fight.

43 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:52:54pm

re: #41 Honorary Yooper

Cruise control, dang, that movie needed serious script control.

It needed to not be made.

44 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:53:06pm

re: #40 SixDegrees

I swear to God, George Soros is sponsoring Beck. And maybe Fox, too. I can't figure out why they're promoting this psychopath as the face of the Right Wing. He's a horrid embarrassment.

You have your answer.

45 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:53:42pm

Teabags, the other white meat.

/Anderson Cooper

46 ConservatismNow!  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:54:15pm

re: #3 Dianna

He better not - people who sling gas cans around worry me.

aaaaaand
/thread

47 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:54:30pm

re: #45 Killian Bundy

Teabags, the other white meat.

/Anderson Cooper

Geeze. Whether you like the tea parties or not, Anderson Cooper was way out of line.

48 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:54:36pm

re: #29 reine.de.tout

Wow! But that's nothing to that electricity stuff leaking out of electrical sockets and poisoning us all . . .
/

The best way to find electron leaks is to use soapy water.

//////Do I really need a sarc tag?////////

49 danrudy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:55:13pm

I have heard Beck on the radio and admittedly have not seen his show on fox (although I have seen it on prior channel).
Beck can be funny, insightful and also push the envelope.
He can also be hysterical and a little like "chicken little". But, I generally find him entertaining.
I haven't been following the Beck issue close enough on these boards. What has he done that has gotten him in the outhouse?
With so many Olbermans and Maddows and Matthews polluting the airways I see Becks role as the "anti-matter" to the others folks who feel it "just doesn't matter"

50 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:56:02pm

re: #17 Honorary Yooper

Hey, ericredwings, why'd you ding me down? You got a reason you want to mention in the thread so we can debate it, or are you a ding-down-chickenshit-troll?

51 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:56:03pm

Glenn Beck is to politics as Carlos Mencia is to comedy.

52 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:56:20pm

And Glenn Beck is laughing all the way to the bank, or wherever he stuffs his money. Does anyone else get the feeling their TV is watching them? Is is not paranoia if you know that "those" people are out to get you!

//

53 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:56:47pm
54 Emerald  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:57:02pm

re: #17 Honorary Yooper

That works well for televangelists as well as John Stewart.

I've said it before - the fringes have more in common with each other than the sides they supposedly represent.

55 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:57:06pm

re: #50 Honorary Yooper

Hey, ericredwings, why'd you ding me down? You got a reason you want to mention in the thread so we can debate it, or are you a ding-down-chickenshit-troll?

Jon Stewart sucks. Upding for you dude.

56 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:57:08pm

And now the Beck drones are sending me hate mail, of course.

57 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:57:19pm

re: #51 NYCHardhat

Glenn Beck is to politics as Carlos Mencia is to comedy.

Who?

I'm not being sarcastic, either. I literally have no clue who you're talking about.

58 Diamond Bullet  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:57:22pm

The Washington Post has all of Bush's "torture" memos up (pretty amazing that Obama released them and then the Post almost instantaneously had them all up as organized pdfs). Apparently menacing a known Al Qaeda operative with a caterpillar is now torture. I guess I should sue every public school I ever attended for all the times I got tortured on the playground during recess.

59 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:57:56pm

re: #56 Charles

And now the Beck drones are sending me hate mail, of course.

Oh, dear.

60 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:57:58pm

re: #49 danrudy

Problem is, Beck being the equivalent of Olberman is a problem. Let the left embrace their crazies. We don't need to do the same with ours.

61 Lee Coller  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:58:03pm

re: #50 Honorary Yooper

Hey, ericredwings, why'd you ding me down? You got a reason you want to mention in the thread so we can debate it, or are you a ding-down-chickenshit-troll?

Maybe he's a Jon Stewart fan?

62 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:58:04pm

re: #50 Honorary Yooper

Hey, ericredwings, why'd you ding me down? You got a reason you want to mention in the thread so we can debate it, or are you a ding-down-chickenshit-troll?

Got cha covered Yooper

63 MJ  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:58:16pm

As the Richard J. Daley used to say, "It's outside agitators'!

64 DhimmiMoore  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:58:26pm

Seeing these guys on TV is a good thing: Glenn Beck, Gerald Celente, Peter Schiff, Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin...

The common ground is a return to free market ideals, a return to individual liberty and personal responsibility, a rejection of government by the corporations and for the corporations, and a focus on sovereignty in light of increasing calls for global regulation of the banking system (which is just the start). This is the basis of conservatism, and this is what people are reconnecting with.

65 ConservatismNow!  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:58:38pm

re: #56 Charles

And now the Beck drones are sending me hate mail, of course.

When are you NOT getting hate mail, Charles? The DI tards would send you hate mail for saying the ocean is a body of water.

66 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:58:47pm
67 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:58:58pm

re: #57 Dianna

Who?

I'm not being sarcastic, either. I literally have no clue who you're talking about.

Carlos Mencia is a "comedian" who is known for thieving other comedians acts and basically having really low-brow jokes only stupid people find funny.

68 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:58:59pm

Fox really beclowned themselves when they hired Beck.

69 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 2:59:18pm

re: #38 pre-Boomer Marine brat

... following on ...

I seem to recall having seen a cartoon ages ago (maybe one of Disney's more serious efforts.) VERY fuzzy memory has it as an educational short, with a snake-oil charlatan for a villain, explaining how people like Beck play upon the emotions.

Does anyone else recall something like that? It might have come out in the Fifties.

70 Lee Coller  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:00:05pm

I see the long registered, seldom commenting trolls are coming out in force.

71 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:00:19pm

re: #31 NYCHardhat

because he is a steak-faced ratings whore.

ericredwings,
why the downding? beck sucks. get over it.

72 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:00:40pm

re: #62 HoosierHoops

Got cha covered Yooper

Ditto that. ;)

73 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:00:55pm

re: #67 NYCHardhat

Thanks.

74 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:01:06pm

re: #61 Lee Coller

Maybe he's a Jon Stewart fan?

A Glenn Beck groupie.

75 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:01:24pm

re: #48 Idle Drifter

The best way to find electron leaks is to use soapy water.

//////Do I really need a sarc tag?////////

Soapy water works very well on high-power radar klystrons.

76 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:01:28pm

re: #70 Lee Coller

I see the long registered, seldom commenting trolls are coming out in force.

Yep, and they only come out to ding.

77 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:01:32pm

re: #13 Honorary Yooper

One word:
Hulu.

It explains several of our favorite actors (including Alec Baldwin) rather well.

I love Hulu...a place that has good-quality Welcome Back, Kotter and WKRP in Cincinatti episodes can't be all bad...

;-P

78 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:01:34pm

re: #49 danrudy

I have heard Beck on the radio and admittedly have not seen his show on fox (although I have seen it on prior channel).
Beck can be funny, insightful and also push the envelope.
He can also be hysterical and a little like "chicken little". But, I generally find him entertaining.
I haven't been following the Beck issue close enough on these boards. What has he done that has gotten him in the outhouse?
With so many Olbermans and Maddows and Matthews polluting the airways I see Becks role as the "anti-matter" to the others folks who feel it "just doesn't matter"

The problem is that Beck can't pull off such a role. He's a gibbering, conspiracy-mongering psychopath, and stains everything he comes near with his ravings. His ratings are high, but it isn't because he's attracting Conservatives to the fold; there is near universal condemnation of his histrionics in Conservative circles. People are tuning in for the same reason people pay to see JoJo the Dog-Faced Woman or The Reptile Boy - he's a freak show, and people tune in to gawk - and to laugh, not with him, but at him. Equating Beck with Conservatism, which Fox is trying hard to do, is a recipe for disaster. He's driving the moderates - and even some of the party faithful - away from the movement in droves.

79 Lee Coller  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:01:37pm

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80 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:01:47pm

re: #49 danrudy

I have heard Beck on the radio and admittedly have not seen his show on fox (although I have seen it on prior channel).
Beck can be funny, insightful and also push the envelope.
He can also be hysterical and a little like "chicken little". But, I generally find him entertaining.
I haven't been following the Beck issue close enough on these boards. What has he done that has gotten him in the outhouse?
With so many Olbermans and Maddows and Matthews polluting the airways I see Becks role as the "anti-matter" to the others folks who feel it "just doesn't matter"

Lazy slimeball.

81 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:02:06pm

Is there one acceptable politician?

/seriously

82 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:02:49pm

re: #56 Charles

And now the Beck drones are sending me hate mail, of course.

You just can't seem to make anyone happy, can you?

/

83 ConservatismNow!  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:02:58pm

re: #81 Killian Bundy

Is there one acceptable politician?

/seriously

Yes. You just don't hear about them because they are WORKING.

84 danrudy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:03:09pm

re: #60 Honorary Yooper

Problem is, Beck being the equivalent of Olberman is a problem. Let the left embrace their crazies. We don't need to do the same with ours.

I know what your saying..."we are better then that"
However, I suppose there are a whole bunch of folks who just need to be talked to in hyperbole and with "great zeal". THese folks be they on the right or left can be assumed not to be spoken to rationally.
Doesn't having someone who can speak their hyperbolic language but coming from the correct side of the aisle potentially allow some of these folks to see a different perspective?

85 brookly red  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:03:09pm

re: #81 Killian Bundy

Is there one acceptable politician?

/seriously

depends of the meaning of acceptable...

86 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:03:10pm

re: #81 Killian Bundy

Is there one acceptable politician?

/seriously

no

87 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:03:21pm

re: #79 Lee Coller

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Where that comment, hmmmm?

88 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:03:29pm

re: #81 Killian Bundy

Is there one acceptable politician?

/seriously

I'm looking. Let me know if you happen to catch a glimpse of one.

89 rhino2  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:03:30pm

re: #64 DhimmiMoore

Seeing these guys on TV is a good thing: Glenn Beck, Gerald Celente, Peter Schiff, Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin...

The common ground is a return to free market ideals, a return to individual liberty and personal responsibility, a rejection of government by the corporations and for the corporations, and a focus on sovereignty in light of increasing calls for global regulation of the banking system (which is just the start). This is the basis of conservatism, and this is what people are reconnecting with.

Is that why we're starting to just buy them now?

/

90 Abu Al-Poopypants  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:03:45pm
digital cable boxes being “brainwashing devices”

To steal a line from Boston talk show host Jay Severin, for most people only a light rinse is necessary.

I think Beck is the right wing version of Olbermann.

91 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:03:55pm

re: #83 ConservatismNow!

Yes. You just don't hear about them because they are WORKING.

/name one

92 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:04:12pm

re: #77 talon_262

I love Hulu...a place that has good-quality Welcome Back, Kotter and WKRP in Cincinatti episodes can't be all bad...

;-P

And really no matter what you think of Baldwin..( he is a freak) His Commercial for HULU may be one of the best on TV.. period..I laughed like crazy when he goes..Cause that's the way we roll...Funny stuff

93 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:04:14pm

"ericredwings" posted this comment on March 29th, now deleted:

Hopefully a few of these tax protests will get out of control. We need to show this out of control gov't that we are sick of there tax policy.

Apparently he now just goes through threads and down-dings people. In light of this, I've given Stinky permission to block his account before the inevitable meltdown comment.

94 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:04:32pm
95 jaunte  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:04:33pm

Still trying to wrap my head around the idea of Glenn Beck fans.

96 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:04:53pm

re: #67 NYCHardhat

Carlos Mencia is a "comedian" who is known for thieving other comedians acts and basically having really low-brow jokes only stupid people find funny.

He came to a cruel, well deserved end on South Park this week. He called the wrong entertainer a gay fish.

97 ConservatismNow!  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:05:08pm

re: #91 Killian Bundy

/name one

One of my own Senators. I'll continue to plug him. Tom Coburn. we had to beg him to not term limit himself.

98 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:05:09pm

Randians are watching, thinking and reconsidering.....
James Randi message board:"Tea Parties"


Other than the crazy book burning lady, is that crowd representative of the normal Constitution Party crowd. If so I may have to rethink my semi-support for them. I am a registered Libertarian and the Constitution Party gave me hope that more people would want to limit the role of government. I do not agree with their social conservatism, but their views on government gave me hope that we could turn this country away from Big Government.
99 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:05:09pm

re: #93 Charles

I don't know, perhaps we should have a contest for "dramatic farewell" comments?

100 Wishing  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:05:32pm

Entertainment is entertainment.
He knows how to get an audience.

101 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:05:38pm

re: #93 Charles

"ericredwings" posted this comment on March 29th, now deleted:

Apparently he now just goes through threads and down-dings people. In light of this, I've given Stinky permission to block his account before the inevitable meltdown comment.

The troll is toast. ;)

102 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:05:57pm

re: #93 Charles

"ericredwings" posted this comment on March 29th, now deleted:

Apparently he now just goes through threads and down-dings people. In light of this, I've given Stinky permission to block his account before the inevitable meltdown comment.

Justice is served.

103 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:06:05pm

re: #56 Charles

And now the Beck drones are sending me hate mail, of course.

Why do you hate the hate mail?

104 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:06:06pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Randians are watching, thinking and reconsidering.....
James Randi message board:"Tea Parties"

They weren't paying attention, then, to what the Constitution Party puts out!

105 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:06:11pm

Thanks DEZ.

106 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:06:22pm

re: #95 jaunte

Still trying to wrap my head around the idea of Glenn Beck fans.

drones..they hear the words and nod their heads

107 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:06:37pm

re: #84 danrudy

I know what your saying..."we are better then that"
However, I suppose there are a whole bunch of folks who just need to be talked to in hyperbole and with "great zeal". THese folks be they on the right or left can be assumed not to be spoken to rationally.

I was going to downding this but I changed my mind, as it is a serious question.

You're saying that the Republicans need to cater to the Crazy-American vote.

Doesn't having someone who can speak their hyperbolic language but coming from the correct side of the aisle potentially allow some of these folks to see a different perspective?

Maybe we can convince them that the martians who might analprobe them tomorrow are more likely, in fact, to be tentacled beasts from underneath the Europan moon-glacier.

I'd sooner start by convincing them to be, uh, sane.

108 rhino2  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:06:41pm

re: #93 Charles

"ericredwings" posted this comment on March 29th, now deleted:

Hopefully a few of these tax protests will get out of control. We need to show this out of control gov't that we are sick of there their tax policy.


One of my pet peeves....not surprising he doesn't know the difference.

109 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:07:03pm

re: #105 NYCHardhat

Thanks DEZ.

For?

110 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:07:37pm

re: #109 DEZes

For?

The upding to counteract the downding troll.

111 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:07:47pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Randians are watching, thinking and reconsidering.....
James Randi message board:"Tea Parties"

I saw that earlier - surprising that someone who posts at the James Randi forum would even think about associating with the Constitution Party.

112 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:08:03pm

re: #85 brookly red

depends of the meaning of acceptable...

/who could you vote for for President in 2012

113 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:08:26pm

re: #104 Dianna

A lot of the skeptics lean toward libertarian parties but most of them are politically kinda dopey. Penn Gillette is a good example. He's a great rational thinking but his politics are pretty stupid sometimes.

114 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:08:29pm

re: #110 NYCHardhat

The upding to counteract the downding troll.

Your welcome, he was a chicken shit troll.

115 mmkay76  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:08:30pm

C'mon, Charles. There was 1 person clapping at the "burn the books" comment. Although, like you, I'm not sure this person was an infiltrator, like Beck claims.

That said, there are an awful lot of nutjobs on the right, but we share the same goal of smaller government. Who cares what their motives are, if they're law abiding. People can burn all the books they want, as long as they own them.

Glenn Beck can't control the fringe of his fan base. I'm sure you have to deal with crazies every now and then.

I haven't been on this site in a while, but I don't get the anti-Beck vitriol. What is that all about?

116 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:08:30pm

re: #112 Killian Bundy

/who could you vote for for President in 2012

Christopher Walken

117 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:08:33pm

re: #112 Killian Bundy

/who could you vote for for President in 2012

Newt

118 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:08:33pm

re: #35 rhino2

I'm not entirely sure thats 100% of the audience. Wasn't there some poll semi-recently amount the % of people who the Daily Show is their main source of news and current events?

I love John Stewart's show, except for one show, which thank God I missed.

But, uh, I read other news sources. It's political comedy. I would watch a right-wing version, if it was funny. Iowahawk would do a great one. (OK, I'll watch anything. I used to watch The Man Show. And I'm not even a man.)

I keep hearing that some/lots of people think of him as the 'news'. I really hope this is exaggerated. Makes me think of the scene in So I Married An Ax Murderer, where Mike Myers' mother says she read something in 'the paper', and pulls out a copy of the World Weekly News.

119 Bloodnok  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:08:37pm

re: #99 Dianna

I don't know, perhaps we should have a contest for "dramatic farewell" comments?

I think a "Goodbye" thread would be quite entertaining. Charles could invite all disaffected users to abandon their accounts. /

120 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:08:41pm

Someone just emailed demanding evidence that Lew Rockwell is a racialist. Where are these people coming from?

121 danrudy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:09:07pm

re: #78 SixDegrees

LOL

I assumed that was also the reason people tuned into Olberman. As I just mentioned to Hooper, I figure that having an occasional fire brandishing high rated (_________ fill in the blank) will appeal to the sort of people who are only open to that. Perhaps he can steal some Olberman listeners and convert them to vote the other way in the next election.
THe Brit Hume fans can hold their nose knowing that Beck is perfroming some useful function

122 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:09:24pm

re: #111 Charles

Penn Gillette was at the Alamo Tea Party with Glenn Beck yesterday. Skeptics aren't very good when it come to politics.

123 MJBrutus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:09:41pm

That does it! No more picnics until the ants promise us they'll stay home.

124 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:10:28pm

The enormous crowd at the NYC Tea Party protest was well-behaved. There was an incident in which a long-haired black male dropped a package in the middle of the crowd, and fled. The cops were summoned, and remove the package without further incident.

125 ConservatismNow!  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:10:31pm

re: #120 Charles

Someone just emailed demanding evidence that Lew Rockwell is a racialist. Where are these people coming from?

What the heck is a racialist?

126 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:10:39pm

I am on record as having a problem with Beck since the day that nut in Pittsburgh killed the cops. I thought for sure that guy had to be a Beck listener/viewer who acted out in a tragic way. For a time before that, I was starting to be turned off by some of his apocalyptic statements. While I was in agreement with some of his stuff, the doomsday stuff was a problem for me. But now it appears he has totally gone off the deep end. And if he is publicly calling Charles and Lizard Nation out, I have an major problem with him. I will continue to watch his show for a few minutes here and there, which is all I could take to begin with. But we need to keep an eye on him, so I will not ignore him. And FOX needs to look past his good ratings and make sure he dials back his extremism. Because that is the only news network that represents my views to any extent. But my patience for this crap is not unlimited. Broadcasters have a responsibility to not only chase ratings, but to be responsible. I have been a TV producer for more than 30 years, and I admire the way FOX does present many sides of an issue. But any broadcaster worth a damn knows that all we really have is our credibility. And if we piss that credibility away, we don't DESERVE to have an audience.

127 freetoken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:10:42pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Does than Randian know that the Constitution Party's candidate was a featured speaker at the John Birch Society's 50th anniversary meeting (its online but I won't link to it)? They loved him and he loves them.

128 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:10:52pm

WTF?

129 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:10:56pm

re: #95 jaunte

Still trying to wrap my head around the idea of Glenn Beck fans.

Something like this?

///

130 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:10:57pm

re: #120 Charles

Someone just emailed demanding evidence that Lew Rockwell is a racialist. Where are these people coming from?

Check the Ron Paul message boards. ...
LGF mocks Paul, Lew, and Napolitano

**On a side note, Beck just criticized LGF on his TV show.
131 Kragar  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:11:00pm

re: #112 Killian Bundy

/who could you vote for for President in 2012

Screw it, General Zod get my vote next go around.

132 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:11:03pm

re: #111 Charles

That assumes that the person follows politics closely enough to have read more than the statements carefully crafted to disguise the frothing lunacy.

133 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:11:04pm

I didn't see Glenn Beck. Did he actually call out Charles? He is dumber than I had him pegged for.

134 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:11:15pm

Guys like Beck never cease to amaze me. They like to talk about liberty and freedom yet given the chance they would put in place a government that would be far removed from a government that would respect those freedom. It can be summed up as "freedom for me but not for thee!"

Essentially his minions are following this line of logic and following their masters orders and communicating to Charles that he has no right to show the video in which the woman exclaimed "burn the books" nor voice any opposition to the sideshow that Glenn Beck frequently presents.

In their view freedoms and liberties are exchangeable. Their message is "be silent" which is counter to what a free society should represent.

135 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:11:39pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout

Penn Gillette was at the Alamo Tea Party with Glenn Beck yesterday. Skeptics aren't very good when it come to politics.

I'm dismayed that the Alamo was used at all for any type of demonstration

136 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:11:45pm

re: #113 Killgore Trout

A lot of the skeptics lean toward libertarian parties but most of them are politically kinda dopey. Penn Gillette is a good example. He's a great rational thinking but his politics are pretty stupid sometimes.

We all have our bad moments, you know.

137 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:11:58pm

re: #115 mmkay76

C'mon, Charles. There was 1 person clapping at the "burn the books" comment.

That is absolutely not true.

138 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:12:18pm

re: #97 ConservatismNow!

One of my own Senators. I'll continue to plug him. Tom Coburn. we had to beg him to not term limit himself.

What about this?

"The gay community has infiltrated the very centers of power in every area across this country, and they wield extreme power... That agenda is the greatest threat to our freedom that we face today. Why do you think we see the rationalization for abortion and multiple sexual partners? That's a gay agenda."

/are you sure?

139 brookly red  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:12:20pm

re: #112 Killian Bundy

/who could you vote for for President in 2012

Assuming that they are running against our current president, I would not be all that picky.

140 Outrider  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:12:35pm

How in the hell do the Conservatives rid ourselves of these nuts? I can now imagine how the Democrats felt with all their leftist nuts with their paper mache statues and Gitmo paraphernalia.

141 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:12:52pm

re: #81 Killian Bundy

Is there one acceptable politician?

/seriously

That Italian porn star who ran for mayor recently is pretty acceptable. She used a picture of her naked ass as her campaign poster. (NSFW).

Oh, wait - you were talking about politically acceptable, weren't you?

Well, at least she doesn't seem to care much for Socialists.

142 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:12:56pm
143 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:13:02pm

re: #81 Killian Bundy

Is there one acceptable politician?

/seriously

RON PAUL!
//

144 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:13:17pm

re: #136 Dianna

yeah, I think most skeptics don't really think much about politics. They're mostly concerned with religion and pseudo-science.

145 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:13:24pm

re: #140 Outrider

How in the hell do the Conservatives rid ourselves of these nuts? I can now imagine how the Democrats felt with all their leftist nuts with their paper mache statues and Gitmo paraphernalia.

the GOP has to do it, if it's even possible

146 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:13:32pm

re: #120 Charles

I'm not omniscient, but, possibly getting mentioned by Glenn Beck led to this?

147 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:13:32pm

Thats it. I'm getting an assault rifle while they are still legal.

148 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:13:37pm

re: #96 SixDegrees

He came to a cruel, well deserved end on South Park this week. He called the wrong entertainer a gay fish.

He should be careful. South Park killed off Saddam, and look what happened.

149 Desert Dog  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:13:53pm

re: #140 Outrider

How in the hell do the Conservatives rid ourselves of these nuts? I can now imagine how the Democrats felt with all their leftist nuts with their paper mache statues and Gitmo paraphernalia.

The problem is, most of them felt just fine about that symbolism and agreed with the kook that made the effigies and costumes.

150 USBeast  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:14:01pm

I don't think we should burn the books, but cooking them has its appeal...;)

151 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:14:57pm

re: #138 Killian Bundy

Despite his flaws, Coburn remains one of the best people in the U.S. Senate. He has a lot of integrity. I've heard him speak in person. An audience member affiliated with a health care insurance company asked if the U.S. government should turn control over health care data to the insurance companies to promote efficiciency. Coburn flamed him on the spot.

152 danrudy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:15:29pm

re: #80 Zimriel

Lazy slimeball.

WTF?
Classy.
I have to be interested in every topic that is posted here? You know, some of us do have a life outside these boards. That's why I tend to peruse and read and only occasionally comment whereas a few years ago I used to comment much more when I had more time (and fewer kids).

153 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:15:30pm

re: #129 Idle Drifter

Something like this?

///

I was refering to Glen Beck fans.
So there's no misunderstanding.

154 teleskiguy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:15:33pm

To paraphrase the late great Henny Youngman, the more I think of Glenn Beck the less I think of Glenn Beck.

155 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:16:00pm

re: #125 ConservatismNow!

What the heck is a racialist?

Someone who thinks they've found a polite way to be a racist?

156 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:16:04pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout

Penn Gillette was at the Alamo Tea Party with Glenn Beck yesterday. Skeptics aren't very good when it come to politics.

Yeah, he's either an idiot or the best thing since sliced bread depending on whether he agrees with you on a particular issue.

/it's a total package, he likes Glen Beck

157 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:16:13pm

re: #115 mmkay76

C'mon, Charles. There was 1 person clapping at the "burn the books" comment. Although, like you, I'm not sure this person was an infiltrator, like Beck claims.

That said, there are an awful lot of nutjobs on the right, but we share the same goal of smaller government. Who cares what their motives are, if they're law abiding. People can burn all the books they want, as long as they own them.

Glenn Beck can't control the fringe of his fan base. I'm sure you have to deal with crazies every now and then.

I haven't been on this site in a while, but I don't get the anti-Beck vitriol. What is that all about?

After the woman finished her voicing her opinion and screaming "burn the books" a man in a white shirt walked up to her to confront her. This very same man finally came to an agreement with her demand that we burn books about "evolution and stuff."

It's on the video. Still haven't identified who this man in the white shirt was but he was certainly in agreement with her regarding the burning of books on "evolution and stuff."

158 Hollowpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:16:23pm

Beck definitely gets carried away and at times dips into fringe territory.

However, that doesn't excuse the false insinuation that the "Tea Party" protests were being organized by the Paulians and irrevocably tainted by the same. The views and behavior of the 1% do not negate the well-meaning and reasonable 99%. No matter how well organized, achieving 100% purity at a public protest is impossible.

159 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:16:27pm

re: #152 danrudy

WTF?
Classy.
I have to be interested in every topic that is posted here? You know, some of us do have a life outside these boards. That's why I tend to peruse and read and only occasionally comment whereas a few years ago I used to comment much more when I had more time (and fewer kids).

my sympathies...really

160 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:16:38pm

re: #142 Iron Fist

Alec Baldwin (F.A.G.) is a pussy!

(I just had to say that. Nothing else :-)

Oh IF.I agree..But he was funnier than Hell in the HULU ad..
The way he has treated his Ex and Daughter is disgusting and lo-life.

161 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:16:55pm

re: #142 Iron Fist

On Baldwin: Trey Parker's Team America: World Police. 'Nuff said.

162 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:17:07pm
163 Last Mohican  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:17:27pm

re: #141 SixDegrees

Did she win?

164 DistantThunder  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:17:27pm

The guy who killed the cops had been self-mutilating which indicates a significant degree of mental illness. He had been burning his hands over open flames. There is no evidence he was listening to Beck. The precipitating event that led to the mass homicide was his anger with his mother who complained that his dog peed in the house. This guy was delusional and paranoid more in line with Harris and Kliebold looking to make a name for himself.

There is a new book on Why Kids Kill - and it identifies the personality disorders of the killers, not that fact that they were bullied, harassed or played video games. They were the predators. They did the bullying at school.

The Pittsburgh guy was a predator, and listening to the radio did not make him this way.

165 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:17:53pm

re: #126 _RememberTonyC

I am on record as having a problem with Beck since the day that nut in Pittsburgh killed the cops. I thought for sure that guy had to be a Beck listener/viewer who acted out in a tragic way. For a time before that, I was starting to be turned off by some of his apocalyptic statements. While I was in agreement with some of his stuff, the doomsday stuff was a problem for me. But now it appears he has totally gone off the deep end. And if he is publicly calling Charles and Lizard Nation out, I have an major problem with him. I will continue to watch his show for a few minutes here and there, which is all I could take to begin with. But we need to keep an eye on him, so I will not ignore him. And FOX needs to look past his good ratings and make sure he dials back his extremism. Because that is the only news network that represents my views to any extent. But my patience for this crap is not unlimited. Broadcasters have a responsibility to not only chase ratings, but to be responsible. I have been a TV producer for more than 30 years, and I admire the way FOX does present many sides of an issue. But any broadcaster worth a damn knows that all we really have is our credibility. And if we piss that credibility away, we don't DESERVE to have an audience.

Honestly, I don't think Beck can be blamed--the guy in Pittsburgh was deep into a whole paranoid subculture. If what I hear about Beck here is accurate, though, he might be bringing that kind of thinking to a bigger mainstream audience, which is not good.

But I still haven't seen the show.

166 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:18:05pm

re: #162 Iron Fist

That is just prudence. Everyone needs a rifle, a shotgun, a pistol, and a knife that they are comfortable with. Having a good selection can help you match your weapons to your outfit, but no one straps on a .45, and then asks "Does this make my butt look too big?"

:-)

Effing A Fist... Effing A!

167 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:18:29pm

re: #141 SixDegrees

That Italian porn star who ran for mayor recently is pretty acceptable. She used a picture of her naked ass as her campaign poster. (NSFW).

Oh, wait - you were talking about politically acceptable, weren't you?

Well, at least she doesn't seem to care much for Socialists.

She has my vote!

168 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:18:31pm

re: #152 danrudy

WTF?
Classy.
I have to be interested in every topic that is posted here? You know, some of us do have a life outside these boards. That's why I tend to peruse and read and only occasionally comment whereas a few years ago I used to comment much more when I had more time (and fewer kids).

I'm sorry... I meant cowardly slimeball who hides behind his own kids!

If you have time to type controversial comments, then you have time to research your thoughts before you type them.

169 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:18:33pm

I don't watch Beck. Actually, I don't watch TV.

170 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:19:17pm

re: #148 SanFranciscoZionist

He should be careful. South Park killed off Saddam, and look what happened.

Good point. I don't see Carlos teaming up as Satan's gay lover, but you never know.

171 brookly red  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:19:29pm

re: #162 Iron Fist

That is just prudence. Everyone needs a rifle, a shotgun, a pistol, and a knife that they are comfortable with. Having a good selection can help you match your weapons to your outfit, but no one straps on a .45, and then asks "Does this make my butt look too big?"

:-)

/and no one w/a .45 strapped on gets told they got a big butt...

172 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:19:36pm

re: #168 Zimriel

I'm sorry... I meant cowardly slimeball who hides behind his own kids!

If you have time to type controversial comments, then you have time to research your thoughts before you type them.

man, that's just cold...there is no reason to post such a thing

173 Outrider  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:19:51pm

re: #162 Iron Fist

That is just prudence. Everyone needs a rifle, a shotgun, a pistol, and a knife that they are comfortable with. Having a good selection can help you match your weapons to your outfit, but no one straps on a .45, and then asks "Does this make my butt look too big?"

:-)

No, but with the wrong holster and pulling it out wrong, they could stand a chance of losing a portion of their butt. ;-)>

174 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:20:00pm

More sleepers popping up.

175 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:20:31pm

re: #168 Zimriel

I'm sorry... I meant cowardly slimeball who hides behind his own kids!

If you have time to type controversial comments, then you have time to research your thoughts before you type them.

What's eating you today?

176 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:20:31pm

Glen's got the flame deflectors on... it wasn't me, it was that infiltrator

177 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:20:59pm

The main thing I remember about Birchers, from when I was a kid, was that they were extremist and anti-civil rights. I absorbed this as a small child, based on what I saw and read and heard from my parents, and they were tainted then to the point that I simply cannot trust them ever.

It's ironic, though - people use "infiltrator" to say their org is on the up and up. John Birchers used "infiltrator," back in the day, to diss orgs. However it is used, it is a weeny excuse.

Personally, I would confront anyone who used Birch talking points or yelled "burn the books," because I am blunt that way. That most people sat and listened and did nothing is the most important thing to me. I know a lot of people's hearts are in the right place, but they need to define their terms up front, then police them carefully.

178 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:21:24pm

re: #165 SanFranciscoZionist

Honestly, I don't think Beck can be blamed--the guy in Pittsburgh was deep into a whole paranoid subculture. If what I hear about Beck here is accurate, though, he might be bringing that kind of thinking to a bigger mainstream audience, which is not good.

But I still haven't seen the show.

SF Zionist ... Please don't get me wrong. I don't "blame" Beck for the Pittsburgh nut. I basically agree with your take. But if FOX isn't careful about what they allow Beck to do, they risk crossing a line where they could be accused of incitement.

179 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:21:25pm

re: #140 Outrider

How in the hell do the Conservatives rid ourselves of these nuts? I can now imagine how the Democrats felt with all their leftist nuts with their paper mache statues and Gitmo paraphernalia.

If you figure it out, dude, let me know. I've been spraying the paper-mache heads with Moonbat-B-Gone for years, and it doesn't seem to even slow them down.

180 ConservatismNow!  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:21:26pm

re: #138 Killian Bundy

Meh. You'll never find a politician you 100% agree with. There are things Coburn opposes or favors that I don't. But he's right on the important parts. Pro 2nd amendment. Anti-illegal immigration. Anti big government. Those are his big three. He's also is against the latest movement of having foreign courts rule have jurisdiction over American soil:

SEN. COBURN: Many on the Supreme Court today will pick and choose the foreign law to help them make a decision to interpret our Constitution, where, in fact, the oath of office mentions no foreign law. As a matter of fact, the obligation is to use the United States law, the Constitution and the treaties. And that’s exactly what Article III, Section 2, says. There’s no reference at all to foreign law in terms of your obligations or your responsibility. And I personally believe that that’s an indication of not good behavior by a justice, whether it be a justice at an appellate division or a magistrate or a Supreme Court justice.

I don't agree with some of his social stances but then when I live in the shiny brass buckle of the Bible Belt, I can't be too choosy about who's my Senator. (Seriously! We have some of the largest churchs I have ever seen!)

181 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:21:39pm

re: #173 Outrider

No, but with the wrong holster and pulling it out wrong, they could stand a chance of losing a portion of their butt. ;-)>

Yeah, and you should never shove your wand in your back pocket. You can lose part of your buttocks that way, too.

/Or so I've heard...

182 Vero  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:21:41pm

re: #158 Hollowpoint

BINGO

183 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:21:45pm

re: #158 Hollowpoint

However, that doesn't excuse the false insinuation that the "Tea Party" protests were being organized by the Paulians...

This is absolutely not false. One of the main organizers of the tea parties, and the person interviewed as such by mainstream media, is a Ron Paul follower and a guy who publishes articles on kook conspiracy websites. That's something known as a "fact."

184 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:21:50pm

re: #117 albusteve

Newt

Newt irretrievably lost me when he divorced his much-older-than-him first wife, whom he met when she was a teacher and he was her student, to marry his much-younger-than-him second wife, whom he met when he was a teacher and she was his student.

He had the divorce papers delivered to her in the hospital, where she was undergoing treatment for breast cancer.

The very definition of egocentric classlessness.

185 Last Mohican  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:22:05pm

re: #168 Zimriel

I'm sorry... I meant cowardly slimeball who hides behind his own kids!

If you have time to type controversial comments, then you have time to research your thoughts before you type them.

I don't run this place, but in my opinion, you're way out of line.

186 danrudy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:22:30pm

re: #107 Zimriel

Yes...it is a serious question.

As you may have noticed. A man with no experience, a history of radical associations etc just got elected president while the media equivalent of the Soviet Union in this country tried very hard to ignore and suppress anything that might be harmful to his getting elected.

I am betting that a lot of Olberman loving , Berkley praising Code pink praising tinfoil headed lunatics ran to vote for this guy.
THere is no need to talk to them sanely. The filter is closed. They need to be talked to in hyperbole.
I suppose having a right wing equivalent of Olberman (if that is a fair characterization or a character assassination I am not sure) has some usefulness to sway upcoming elections.
Not everyone can be reasoned with....so stop trying.

187 Lee Coller  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:22:34pm

Karma: -4

mmkay76

Web site URL: [Link: www.webxl.net...]

Anti-idiotarian

(Logged in)
Registered since: Jan 25, 2005 at 1:45 pm
No. of comments posted: 6
No. of links posted: 0

Wow, six comments in 4 years!

188 Outrider  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:22:35pm

re: #177 Catttt

The main thing I remember about Birchers, from when I was a kid, was that they were extremist and anti-civil rights. I absorbed this as a small child, based on what I saw and read and heard from my parents, and they were tainted then to the point that I simply cannot trust them ever.

It's ironic, though - people use "infiltrator" to say their org is on the up and up. John Birchers used "infiltrator," back in the day, to diss orgs. However it is used, it is a weeny excuse.

Personally, I would confront anyone who used Birch talking points or yelled "burn the books," because I am blunt that way. That most people sat and listened and did nothing is the most important thing to me. I know a lot of people's hearts are in the right place, but they need to define their terms up front, then police them carefully.

agreed. If the crowd had not tacitly agreed with the "infiltrator", they would have corrected her.

189 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:22:37pm

re: #163 Last Mohican

Did she win?

Win what? Oh, the election...

She wound up winning a seat (mmph...) in the Italian Parliament in 1987. Apparently, she's still active in politics. Her name is Ilona Staller; stuff it in Google and hit "Images" for the short version.

190 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:22:43pm

have a good night, everyone.

191 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:23:01pm

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

I love John Stewart's show, except for one show, which thank God I missed.

But, uh, I read other news sources. It's political comedy. I would watch a right-wing version, if it was funny. Iowahawk would do a great one. (OK, I'll watch anything. I used to watch The Man Show. And I'm not even a man.)

I keep hearing that some/lots of people think of him as the 'news'. I really hope this is exaggerated. Makes me think of the scene in So I Married An Ax Murderer, where Mike Myers' mother says she read something in 'the paper', and pulls out a copy of the World Weekly News.

Or in Men In Black, Tommy Lee Jones telling Will Smith that he was looking for leads in the "hot sheets" and pulls out a National Enquirer or some such tabloid...

;-P

192 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:23:03pm

re: #142 Iron Fist

Alec Baldwin (F.A.G.) is a pussy!

(I just had to say that. Nothing else :-)

I was deeply amused, though, to read an interview where he said that all his daughter's school friends had learned the words from Team America, and would greet him at school events with "You are worthless, Alec Baldwin."

193 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:23:04pm

re: #124 quickjustice

The enormous crowd at the NYC Tea Party protest was well-behaved. There was an incident in which a long-haired black male dropped a package in the middle of the crowd, and fled. The cops were summoned, and remove the package without further incident.

i was there from 7 pm to 9:30.
i didn't see any crazy nut cases.
just a lot of enthusiastic people waving american flags
and carrying signs.
it was a nice crowd. a cop said he thought there l500 people for the actual rally
but more coming and going thru out the day.

194 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:23:26pm
195 Outrider  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:23:28pm

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

If you figure it out, dude, let me know. I've been spraying the paper-mache heads with Moonbat-B-Gone for years, and it doesn't seem to even slow them down.

you try the MGB-50 strength yet? ;-)>

196 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:23:44pm

re: #168 Zimriel

I had to down ding that, way uncalled for.

197 Hypocritical Extremist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:23:44pm

Is Santelli a Paulista?

198 KingKenrod  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:23:45pm

The NSA tried to wiretap a congressman who contacted an extremist:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

We need more info about that. The Times's angle is that it was without a warrant, which seems small potatoes in comparison to a possible traitor in Congress.

199 mmkay76  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:24:04pm

re: #137 Charles

OK, I just watched it 3 more times. There was 1 person clapping right before the comment, then the asinine comment, then a new clapper, then another loud clapper joins in. There was a laugh, too. Probably from the guy who asked if she was serious.

So, two or three. Anyway, we know right-wing nutjobs exist. Are we not to gather in protest because of it? Just keep a low profile while Obama, Pelosi, and Reid supporters have their way?

200 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:24:12pm

re: #184 Salamantis

Newt irretrievably lost me when he divorced his much-older-than-him first wife, whom he met when she was a teacher and he was her student, to marry his much-younger-than-him second wife, whom he met when he was a teacher and she was his student.

He had the divorce papers delivered to her in the hospital, where she was undergoing treatment for breast cancer.

The very definition of egocentric classlessness.

yeah he's tarnished...but he is also brilliant and there are not many options and I for one would ignore, not condone, his personal life

201 brookly red  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:24:22pm

re: #181 EmmmieG

Yeah, and you should never shove your wand in your back pocket. You can lose part of your buttocks that way, too.

/Or so I've heard...

& in your belt is BIG out!

202 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:24:28pm

re: #193 nyc redneck

i was there from 7 pm to 9:30.
i didn't see any crazy nut cases.
just a lot of enthusiastic people waving american flags
and carrying signs.
it was a nice crowd. a cop said he thought there l500 people for the actual rally
but more coming and going thru out the day.

Didn't I see you? I was the really hot looking dude with a hardhat on and a grease-up chest./

203 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:25:04pm

re: #194 Iron Fist

I've never liked inside the pants holsters for that very reason. It is better than just sticking the weapon in your belt and dropping your shirt over it (that works great in the movies. It sucks standing in line at the grocery store. Especially when John Law walks in and starts asking the cashier questions. Just, you know, saying :-)

This is not a situation I have ever been in. But I'm picturing it, particularly as you feel the gun starting to migrate!

204 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:25:08pm

re: #125 ConservatismNow!

What the heck is a racialist?

Racialism

Basically its a euphemism for racism used by racists to try to cover who and what they are. According to them, "racists" hate people of ofter races for no reason but "racialists" point out "legitimate" differences between races and then use them as an excuse for segregation, over-the-top "pride" in ones own race, or in other words just plain.... racism.

I don't know Lew Rockwell's feelings on this and have only seen his paleo-libertarian economic and foreign policy screeds that were ridiculous, but I know that Charles doesn't talk out his ass so I'm trusting him on this. The fact the Rockwell is batshit crazy on other things lends credibility to this as well.

205 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:25:19pm

re: #199 mmkay76

OK, I just watched it 3 more times. There was 1 person clapping right before the comment, then the asinine comment, then a new clapper, then another loud clapper joins in. There was a laugh, too. Probably from the guy who asked if she was serious.

So, two or three. Anyway, we know right-wing nutjobs exist. Are we not to gather in protest because of it? Just keep a low profile while Obama, Pelosi, and Reid supporters have their way?

You're still minimizing it. I hear a lot more than three people clapping. And the applause, by the way, started when the crackpot speaker ranted that people should "pull their kids out of college because they're being brainwashed."

206 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:26:18pm

re: #162 Iron Fist

That is just prudence. Everyone needs a rifle, a shotgun, a pistol, and a knife that they are comfortable with. Having a good selection can help you match your weapons to your outfit, but no one straps on a .45, and then asks "Does this make my butt look too big?"

:-)

My Bushmaster Carbon M4 looks like a toy until it starts barking.

207 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:26:21pm

re: #204 ArchangelMichael

Racialism

Basically its a euphemism for racism used by racists to try to cover who and what they are. According to them, "racists" hate people of ofter races for no reason but "racialists" point out "legitimate" differences between races and then use them as an excuse for segregation, over-the-top "pride" in ones own race, or in other words just plain.... racism.

I don't know Lew Rockwell's feelings on this and have only seen his paleo-libertarian economic and foreign policy screeds that were ridiculous, but I know that Charles doesn't talk out his ass so I'm trusting him on this. The fact the Rockwell is batshit crazy on other things lends credibility to this as well.

Who Wrote Ron Paul's Newsletters?: Libertarian movement veterans, and a Paul campaign staffer, say it was 'paleolibertarian' strategist Lew Rockwell.

208 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:26:27pm

re: #175 Silvergirl

What's eating you today?

I see that that comment rubbed some the wrong way.

Someone doesn't do the research and posts a comment demanding we do it for him. When called on his laziness, he says he deserves leniency because he has kids.

I file that under the "don't blame me, I'm just a []" section.

That is: He is making it harder for every other person like him on this board (in this case, parents) to be taken seriously. Most others find time to back up what they say, or else take their lumps.

209 Desert Dog  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:26:31pm

re: #200 albusteve

yeah he's tarnished...but he is also brilliant and there are not many options and I for one would ignore, not condone, his personal life

I would take Newt over Obama or Hillary or John McCain or any of the others that ran last time. Our country would be heading in a much different AND better direction right now.

210 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:26:32pm

re: #180 ConservatismNow!

Meh. You'll never find a politician you 100% agree with.

Bingo.

/yet the litmus test seems set to eleven

211 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:26:43pm

re: #199 mmkay76

OK, I just watched it 3 more times. There was 1 person clapping right before the comment, then the asinine comment, then a new clapper, then another loud clapper joins in. There was a laugh, too. Probably from the guy who asked if she was serious.

So, two or three. Anyway, we know right-wing nutjobs exist. Are we not to gather in protest because of it? Just keep a low profile while Obama, Pelosi, and Reid supporters have their way?

And...and...and...and maybe the PHOTOSHOPPED THE CLAPPING! Yeah, yeah, that's it! They PHOTOSHOPPED IT!

212 rhino2  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:26:49pm

re: #194 Iron Fist

Chest holster and a jacket? ;)

213 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:26:50pm

re: #178 _RememberTonyC

SF Zionist ... Please don't get me wrong. I don't "blame" Beck for the Pittsburgh nut. I basically agree with your take. But if FOX isn't careful about what they allow Beck to do, they risk crossing a line where they could be accused of incitement.

Gotcha.

214 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:27:00pm

re: #194 Iron Fist

I've never liked inside the pants holsters for that very reason. It is better than just sticking the weapon in your belt and dropping your shirt over it (that works great in the movies. It sucks standing in line at the grocery store. Especially when John Law walks in and starts asking the cashier questions. Just, you know, saying :-)

LOL

215 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:27:22pm

re: #208 Zimriel

I think you over-reacted, just a bit.

216 ConservatismNow!  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:27:45pm

re: #207 Charles

That's racist of you to call some a racialist!

//this word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

:D

217 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:27:56pm

re: #184 Salamantis

That was a bad thing he did. Ironically, my ex started divorce procedures when I had breast cancer (caught in time). He was, however, much more considerate in the way he did it, and we agreed it was a good idea.

However, I cannot judge Speaker Gingrich on that irretrievably. It was a personal wrong on his part, and I think it should be left that way - not for me to judge. It does color his character, but people can repent and change.

218 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:27:58pm

re: #208 Zimriel

I see that that comment rubbed some the wrong way.

Someone doesn't do the research and posts a comment demanding we do it for him. When called on his laziness, he says he deserves leniency because he has kids.

I file that under the "don't blame me, I'm just a []" section.

That is: He is making it harder for every other person like him on this board (in this case, parents) to be taken seriously. Most others find time to back up what they say, or else take their lumps.

bullshit....you are bullshit...there is no excuse for that vapid reply...keep it to yourself

219 quiet man  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:28:16pm

Given the left almost always has implants and so called disinterested people who are used to attack conservatives..I wouldn't dismiss Beck's claim out of hand.

How many times have we seen plants in Obama's and Hillary's town hall meetings? Every single time as I recall.

In fact, how many times have we lizards been attacked, marginalized, or worse when someone says something dicey here...Even if it is removed right away?

I suggest possibly using Becks own words and actions as a guide to whether you listen to him or not..Hysteria is not the lizard way, is it?

220 mmkay76  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:28:28pm

re: #187 Lee Coller

Wow, six comments in 4 years!

Does that have to do with anything to do with what I wrote?

221 Vero  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:29:00pm

re: #183 Charles

Wow, who knew that Ron Paul got my wife and I out to the Cincinnati Tea Party . Here little 'ole me thought it was our government spending habits.

I am such a fool.

222 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:29:00pm

re: #208 Zimriel

I see that that comment rubbed some the wrong way.

Someone doesn't do the research and posts a comment demanding we do it for him. When called on his laziness, he says he deserves leniency because he has kids.

I file that under the "don't blame me, I'm just a []" section.

That is: He is making it harder for every other person like him on this board (in this case, parents) to be taken seriously. Most others find time to back up what they say, or else take their lumps.

Yep. Take your lumps for it.

223 Dianna  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:29:05pm

Heading home.

Take care, lizards.

224 opnion  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:29:12pm

re: #199 mmkay76

OK, I just watched it 3 more times. There was 1 person clapping right before the comment, then the asinine comment, then a new clapper, then another loud clapper joins in. There was a laugh, too. Probably from the guy who asked if she was serious.

So, two or three. Anyway, we know right-wing nutjobs exist. Are we not to gather in protest because of it? Just keep a low profile while Obama, Pelosi, and Reid supporters have their way?

I just watched it for the first time & the "Burn the Books" lady did not get a rousing round of applause. It seemed to me that the guy ranting about brainwashing was not well recieved either.

225 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:29:31pm

Since we now have LGF readers/sleepers showing up making excuses for Ron Paul, here's an article that bears re-posting: Angry White Man - the bigoted past of Ron Paul.

226 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:29:31pm

re: #209 Desert Dog

I would take Newt over Obama or Hillary or John McCain or any of the others that ran last time. Our country would be heading in a much different AND better direction right now.

I still have a hard time disavowing people because of their personal problems....I try not to be too judgemental...Newt rules

227 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:29:32pm

re: #184 Salamantis

Newt irretrievably lost me when he divorced his much-older-than-him first wife, whom he met when she was a teacher and he was her student, to marry his much-younger-than-him second wife, whom he met when he was a teacher and she was his student.

He had the divorce papers delivered to her in the hospital, where she was undergoing treatment for breast cancer.

The very definition of egocentric classlessness.

That's a part of Newt's baggage which is well known. He has some interesting things to say however I personally do not agree with him on many of the social issues. Again this points to this idea some like Newt have that they are not running for public office but the national papacy.

Realistically speaking he also has a grating personality. For the average American I'm sure this would be a complete turn off. Mind you if push comes to shove I would consider supporting him in a presidential bid however my intuition and observation of the man sees him as an inviable candidate in modern America.

228 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:29:33pm

re: #223 Dianna

Heading home.

Take care, lizards.

bye. safe home.

229 ConservatismNow!  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:29:38pm

re: #210 Killian Bundy

Bingo.

/yet the litmus test seems set to eleven

True. Before an election, you need to sit down and rank each each in order of importance and if you favor or oppose it. For me, 2nd amendment is numero uno. Then small government. Then military strength.

230 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:29:49pm

re: #207 Charles

Thanks. I forgot about that from a few weeks back.

231 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:30:10pm

re: #212 rhino2

Chest holster and a jacket? ;)

Matching leather?

232 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:30:49pm

Glenn Becks radio program had a commercial on it today for non genetically engineered seeds. Claims they will be worth more than gold and silver (when?) and that there are people, RIGHT NOW, storing these seeds in warehouses by the Arctic Circle. I sh*t you not. I am still scratching my head. When are these seeds going to be worth more than gold and silver and why? Who the hell has rented warehouse space in the Arctic Circle to store these seeds and why? Who the f*ck has an acre of land available to them to plant these survival gardens? This is some serious Tinfoil hat crap. I am still trying to wrap my head around it. It speaks volumes as to who Glenn Beck is and what he believes.

233 avanti  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:30:59pm

re: #58 Diamond Bullet

The Washington Post has all of Bush's "torture" memos up (pretty amazing that Obama released them and then the Post almost instantaneously had them all up as organized pdfs). Apparently menacing a known Al Qaeda operative with a caterpillar is now torture. I guess I should sue every public school I ever attended for all the times I got tortured on the playground during recess.

The reason they were released and in the press so fast was the administration lost a freedom of information lawsuit.

234 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:31:46pm

re: #186 danrudy


I am betting that a lot of Olberman loving , Berkley praising Code pink praising tinfoil headed lunatics ran to vote for this guy.

Code Pink is already starting the backlash against Obama. The hard right really does not worship him, in fact they don't like him very much at all.

235 quiet man  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:31:53pm

Ron Paul has nothing to do with my own anger at the spending and taxation Obama and friends have placed on us. 50 state protests deserve a listening to, instead of dismissal out of hand..that is for whackos like illinios congress women

236 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:32:12pm

re: #234 SanFranciscoZionist

Code Pink is already starting the backlash against Obama. The hard right really does not worship him, in fact they don't like him very much at all.

Excuse me, the hard LEFT.

That makes more sense.

237 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:32:22pm

re: #219 quiet man

Given the left almost always has implants and so called disinterested people who are used to attack conservatives..I wouldn't dismiss Beck's claim out of hand.

How many times have we seen plants in Obama's and Hillary's town hall meetings? Every single time as I recall.

In fact, how many times have we lizards been attacked, marginalized, or worse when someone says something dicey here...Even if it is removed right away?

I suggest possibly using Becks own words and actions as a guide to whether you listen to him or not..Hysteria is not the lizard way, is it?

Was this broadcast live, or was it taped?

And using Beck's own words as a guide: why would I listen to someone who wastes bandwidth howling about his hemorrhoids and describing them in graphic detail?

Or someone whose defense of his own outrageous, over the top actions is, repeatedly, to claim that "they're all out to get me! They're planting infiltrators!"

238 Lincolntf  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:32:33pm

re: #232 Truck Monkey

The seed storage thing is real (according to a Nat'l Geo. article from a while ago), but I never heard about the "investing" in it part.

239 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:33:16pm

re: #232 Truck Monkey

Glenn Becks radio program had a commercial on it today for non genetically engineered seeds. Claims they will be worth more than gold and silver (when?) and that there are people, RIGHT NOW, storing these seeds in warehouses by the Arctic Circle. I sh*t you not. I am still scratching my head. When are these seeds going to be worth more than gold and silver and why? Who the hell has rented warehouse space in the Arctic Circle to store these seeds and why? Who the f*ck has an acre of land available to them to plant these survival gardens? This is some serious Tinfoil hat crap. I am still trying to wrap my head around it. It speaks volumes as to who Glenn Beck is and what he believes.


Heres some info on the doomsday vault.

[Link: www.croptrust.org...]

240 ConservatismNow!  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:33:28pm

re: #232 Truck Monkey

Non-genetically engineered seeds? As in seeds that are not resistant to disease, bugs, or rodents?

241 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:34:15pm

re: #194 Iron Fist

I've never liked inside the pants holsters for that very reason. It is better than just sticking the weapon in your belt and dropping your shirt over it (that works great in the movies. It sucks standing in line at the grocery store. Especially when John Law walks in and starts asking the cashier questions. Just, you know, saying :-)

But whatever you do, don't put your gun in your sweatpants and go to a nightclub...

242 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:34:37pm

I'm all for helping the helpless but not the clueless.

/a paraphrase of what someone said

243 danrudy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:34:54pm

re: #168 Zimriel

Very classy.
I hope my "controversial" question didn't upset your medication schedule.

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:34:56pm

re: #195 Outrider

you try the MGB-50 strength yet? ;-)>

Is that safe around pets and children? What about centrist Democrats?

245 Outrider  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:34:56pm

Are we talking heirloom vegetable seeds in order to preserve the "old timey" vegetables? Or is this something different?

246 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:35:05pm

re: #242 Killian Bundy

I'm all for helping the helpless but not the clueless.

/a paraphrase of what someone said

Dennis Miller.

247 Last Mohican  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:35:07pm

re: #240 ConservatismNow!

Non-genetically engineered seeds? As in seeds that are not resistant to disease, bugs, or rodents?

Correct. However, if you eat the tomatoes that grow from them, you won't end up with secret government thought control devices implanted in your brain. And that's definitely a big plus.

/s

248 DhimmiMoore  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:35:10pm

re: #232 Truck Monkey

... and that there are people, RIGHT NOW, storing these seeds in warehouses by the Arctic Circle. I sh*t you not.

Yes Virginia, there are people storing seeds in the arctic. Monsanto and Bill Gates, among others, have teamed up to create a Doomsday Seed Vault.

The likely reason is that Monsanto realizes their patented seeds spread in an uncontrolled fashion and we could very well see a time when things like natural corn are nearly extinct because everybody is using Monstanto's GM version. The Seed Vault protects us...and gives Monsanto a "reset point."

249 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:35:17pm

sigh.....I really miss Brit Hume.

250 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:35:46pm

re: #238 Lincolntf

The seed storage thing is real (according to a Nat'l Geo. article from a while ago), but I never heard about the "investing" in it part.

The Arctic Circle? I heard that part and laughed. I am in logistics and realize the costs associated with not only getting them up there, but also storing them and distributing them once sold. The business model just doesn't make any sense.

251 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:35:48pm

re: #243 danrudy

Very classy.
I hope my "controversial" question didn't upset your medication schedule.

rise above it...

252 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:35:51pm

re: #232 Truck Monkey

Glenn Becks radio program had a commercial on it today for non genetically engineered seeds. Claims they will be worth more than gold and silver (when?) and that there are people, RIGHT NOW, storing these seeds in warehouses by the Arctic Circle. I sh*t you not. I am still scratching my head. When are these seeds going to be worth more than gold and silver and why? Who the hell has rented warehouse space in the Arctic Circle to store these seeds and why? Who the f*ck has an acre of land available to them to plant these survival gardens? This is some serious Tinfoil hat crap. I am still trying to wrap my head around it. It speaks volumes as to who Glenn Beck is and what he believes.

Yeah, I have a friend who is trying to get an order together for those. I just went to Home Depot and we're doing container gardening*, mostly so the boys can learn some gardening techniques.

However, really, how many non-tampered with plants are there? Mankind has been monkeying with plants, and domesticated animals, by selectively breeding them for years. Doesn't bug me.

*If you are grossed out easily, stop reading here. I have been wanting to do container gardening for years, but I had to wait for one of my boys to grow up. When he was two, I tried to start some seeds in little peat starters on the back porch. Not only did he rip up the peat starters and stomp all over them, he pulled down his diaper and pooped on them. I took this to be a definitive statment of his feelings, and have waited until he's old enough to participate, and therefore, want the plants to succeed.

253 Outrider  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:35:57pm

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

Is that safe around pets and children? What about centrist Democrats?

safe around most pets... except French poodles. ;-)>

254 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:36:04pm

re: #246 Silvergirl

Dennis Miller.

/I think he was quoting someone else

255 rhino2  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:36:14pm

re: #236 SanFranciscoZionist

Excuse me, the hard LEFT.

That makes more sense.

It is hard to tell the difference though, no?

256 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:36:19pm
257 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:36:26pm

re: #202 NYCHardhat

Didn't I see you? I was the really hot looking dude with a hardhat on and a grease-up chest./

i saw you but you were surrounded by so many girls,
i couldn't even say hi.
so i scampered off in my go go boots.

258 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:36:34pm

I miss W.

259 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:36:51pm

re: #239 DEZes

Heres some info on the doomsday vault.

[Link: www.croptrust.org...]

Looks like the left and the right are both preparing for the end of the world.

Nothing new. Doomsday predictions are almost human nature and are represented by both sides of the "curve."

260 Lincolntf  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:36:53pm

re: #250 Truck Monkey

I think this is the same one I read about.
Arctic circle seed storage

261 SAM8  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:37:33pm

Charles,

I know you're not a fan of the Tea Parties or protests since loony individual or group can co-opt the message. But how do you suggest like-minded, sane people get their message out? The media won't pay attention to anyone who doesn't parrot their beliefs and the new media doesn't have influence or impact, as this election clearly demonstrated.

If we try to express our frustration, the media will attempt to discredit it just as CNN's Susan Roesgen manipulated the coverage of the Chicago Tea Party protest or ignore it completely.

I attended the Chicago Tea Party, and had a great time. I've never protested anything before. While I was there everyone was friendly. I'd ask to take pictures of signs I thought were especially interesting and everyone, who had their picture taken, was courteous and in a good mood. Sure there were two people with Obama/Hitler posters, but there were 1,500 other people people there who were respectful and thoughtful. The media will, of course, pick out the wackos, but is that really a reason to stay home and be ineffectual?

To put it another way, the same thing will happen to any blogger who questions the Left's narrative. If the message gets traction, the media may not attack what the blogger wrote, but more than likely they'll attack the blogger personally or use the most obnoxious commenter on the blogger's site to discredit him. Does that mean that the blogger shouldn't blog about issues that matter to him?

The anti-war protests did have a large, loony fringe, but the media covered for them and those anti-war protests and Bush's unwillingness to defend himself did chip away at the support for the war.

And the media finally discussed what the tea parties were about. Out ABC affiliate quite accurately the numbers, the message and the fact that it was a mix of people, both republicans and democrats, old and young, etc.

I just don't want to sit around hoping things will change. In a blue state where my state and federal representatives are all far-left democrats, writing them is useless and not voting for them doesn't work because they have a lock on power.

What's the solution? How do people coordinate a message when they don't have a supportive media or responsive elected officials?

262 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:37:39pm

re: #224 opnion

I just watched it for the first time & the "Burn the Books" lady did not get a rousing round of applause. It seemed to me that the guy ranting about brainwashing was not well recieved either.

Perhaps. However, the crowd phenom, where no one actually contradicts them, set in. One on one, many people will contradict. In a crowd, if no one else does, no one does.

Example: Once, on a bus (night, DC, me the only white person), a guy lit up really stinky hashish. It was truly hugely stinky. The bus was full of working class people. No one said anything. So - I said, loudly,"Mr. Bus Driver, please have them put that out." Everyone then spoke up with "Yeah!" type remarks - loudly. The bus driver pulled over, turned the bus off, pocketed the key, stood up, crossed his arms, and said "We aren't going anywhere 'til you throw that out the window." The guy did. Everyone cheered. We smiled all the way home.

263 Lee Coller  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:37:55pm

re: #217 Catttt

That was a bad thing he did. Ironically, my ex started divorce procedures when I had breast cancer (caught in time). He was, however, much more considerate in the way he did it, and we agreed it was a good idea.

However, I cannot judge Speaker Gingrich on that irretrievably. It was a personal wrong on his part, and I think it should be left that way - not for me to judge. It does color his character, but people can repent and change.

My problem with Gingrich is that he failed to deliver on the Contract with America.

264 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:38:02pm

re: #250 Truck Monkey

The Arctic Circle? I heard that part and laughed. I am in logistics and realize the costs associated with not only getting them up there, but also storing them and distributing them once sold. The business model just doesn't make any sense.

/it more like a "Noah's Ark" than a business model, for after the deluge

265 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:38:04pm

re: #257 nyc redneck

i saw you but you were surrounded by so many girls,
i couldn't even say hi.
so i scampered off in my go go boots.

They're just friends...I was looking for you. ;)

266 Desert Dog  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:38:10pm

re: #219 quiet man

Given the left almost always has implants and so called disinterested people who are used to attack conservatives..I wouldn't dismiss Beck's claim out of hand.

How many times have we seen plants in Obama's and Hillary's town hall meetings? Every single time as I recall.

In fact, how many times have we lizards been attacked, marginalized, or worse when someone says something dicey here...Even if it is removed right away?

I suggest possibly using Becks own words and actions as a guide to whether you listen to him or not..Hysteria is not the lizard way, is it?

I think the left stood back and let the right hang ourselves with this one. There were the few obvious ones I have seen, like the Code Pinkos in DC.

The very semblance of right wing "extremists" at some of the rallies made this an event that will be marginalized. At least, that is the way this will be spun. Considering the magnitude of these rallies, it should have garnered more attention from the media. What "reporting" that was done was very critical and even mocking of the entire thing, at least nationally. The right has nutters just like the left. The difference is the right is not proud of them and does not back them the same way the left does theirs.

There are extremists that call themselves Republicans, that is clear. So, what do we do about it then? Stay home when the rare event like this comes up? I did, but I was thinking about going to the one here in Phoenix. My job prevented it.

267 smalyshev  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:38:14pm

"extreme right-wing/libertarian" - doesn't sound like it makes sense. It's like "libertarian socialist" - you or one or the other.
And what's wrong with being libertarian anyway?

268 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:38:17pm

re: #256 Iron Fist

You may recall that the Left had no problem whatsoever with those people that illegally wiretapped Gingrich and gave the information gained from it to the New York Times. IIRC, no one went to jail over it, and certainly the NYT didn't hesitate to use the "fruit of a poison tree" in their persuit of a story (against Republicans. They apparently would object if someone did that to Khalid Sheik Mohammed when he was, you, planning on killing a bunch of people, or just tuching base with his al Qaeda Den Mother in Pakistan).

Is there a single issue where the Left aren't hippocrits?

good point...

269 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:38:36pm

re: #232 Truck Monkey

Glenn Becks radio program had a commercial on it today for non genetically engineered seeds. Claims they will be worth more than gold and silver (when?) and that there are people, RIGHT NOW, storing these seeds in warehouses by the Arctic Circle. I sh*t you not. I am still scratching my head. When are these seeds going to be worth more than gold and silver and why? Who the hell has rented warehouse space in the Arctic Circle to store these seeds and why? Who the f*ck has an acre of land available to them to plant these survival gardens? This is some serious Tinfoil hat crap. I am still trying to wrap my head around it. It speaks volumes as to who Glenn Beck is and what he believes.

Actually, there really is an Arctic Seed Repository. Despite what the tinfoil hat wearers claim, it's aimed at preserving genetic diversity. The Arctic was chosen because the perpetually cold, dry air makes long-term storage considerably cheaper than it would be in, say, Iowa. Read through the article; it's interesting stuff, and also shows just how depraved the ravings of these loons can get.

There are seed banks all over the world for similar reasons, and for research. Michigan State University's agricultural program has an extensive one; the department was created in the 19th century by Liberty Hyde Bailey, who also founded the nation's Cooperative Extension Service network. Other universities around the world have followed the example.

270 AMER1CAN  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:38:40pm
Never mind all that. Hey, look over there! It’s a paulian!

oops

271 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:38:52pm

In the video, when the ranting nut says "if you got kids in school, you got 'em in college, get 'em the hell out of college because they're brainwashing 'em," people start clapping, and you can see a woman behind him nodding enthusiastically. Then the woman shouts "Burn the books!" -- more people start clapping, and at least one person yells "Yeah!"

That's what the video shows.

272 mmkay76  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:38:54pm

re: #205 Charles

You're still minimizing it. I hear a lot more than three people clapping. And the applause, by the way, started when the crackpot speaker ranted that people should "pull their kids out of college because they're being brainwashed."

You listen to Prager, right? His anti-college kick? The value of a college education has gone way down over the years. I wouldn't say they're being brainwashed, but there is a big echo chamber on campuses. Not totally nutty to not send your kids to elite institutions. there was a lot of other nutty stuff in there though.

BTW, I might be an "LGF sleeper", but then again, I do have a job. (and there's not much I disagree with here)

273 Wishing  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:39:07pm

Ok credit where credit is due, Beck proved with the *FEMA concentration camp* nonsense that he is willing to do some research. He did the research and got that one right, and called people out for supporting this.
My hope is that he will come to this blog, and others like it, read the comments and consider his actions and statements. My guess is that the creationist stuff is due to a lack of information.
He has proved that he can learn. Let's hope he does.

274 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:39:26pm

re: #219 quiet man

Given the left almost always has implants and so called disinterested people who are used to attack conservatives..I wouldn't dismiss Beck's claim out of hand.

OT--Just recalling a moment from my moonbatty youth--I was at this little demonstration, and Frank Chu showed up--for those of your not from the SF Bay Area, Frank is a very eccentric man who shows up at all demonstrations in San Francisco, carrying his own very unique and evolving sign. Young downtown bankers dress up like him for Halloween. It's a tradition.

I smiled at Frank, and said something about his sign to the unwashed mass next to me, who told me very seriously that he had suspicions about Frank being an FBI plant.

Back to the main topic at hand...

275 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:39:51pm

re: #258 NYCHardhat

I miss W.

Did you hear about the Blond who was fired from the m&m plant because her volumes of approved m&m candies was way under satisfaction levels? Yup, seems her levels were so low because she kept throwing the 'w's into the rejection bin.
/I am an approved joke teller for this one as I myself am blond.

276 SAM8  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:39:57pm

Wow. I had a lot of spelilng and grammatics errors in my comment.

277 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:40:00pm

Wow, who woke up all the sleepers?

278 Lee Coller  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:41:09pm

re: #277 Charles

Wow, who woke up all the sleepers?

Glen Beck?

279 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:41:20pm

Now I am beginning to wonder if Napolitano's report was aimed at Beck and his legion of tongue waggers?

280 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:41:41pm

re: #277 Charles

Wow, who woke up all the sleepers?

I don't think it was Sleeping Beauty's prince this time.

281 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:41:44pm

re: #273 Wishing

Ok credit where credit is due, Beck proved with the *FEMA concentration camp* nonsense that he is willing to do some research. He did the research and got that one right, and called people out for supporting this.
My hope is that he will come to this blog, and others like it, read the comments and consider his actions and statements. My guess is that the creationist stuff is due to a lack of information.
He has proved that he can learn. Let's hope he does.

sorry he's MSM...I'm closed mined...I hate the MSM and FOX is part of it...we don't them or anyone else

282 see bs  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:41:45pm

Can't see video's at work, what books was she referring to? Not that I approve, but I can only hope she was referring to anything written by Marx, Lenin, Mao and Hitler.

Wait scratch that... Forget burning, I forgot that they make good Toilet Paper.

Hitler will have a brown face in addition to his brown shirt. Das Kapital...More like Das Crapital. Mao's Little brown book.

(Hmmm.... gotta look in the viability of making some kind of decal to go in the toilet. Hitler is good... FOR ME TO POOP ON)

283 Wishing  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:41:45pm

re: #232 Truck Monkey

Glenn Becks radio program had a commercial on it today for non genetically engineered seeds. Claims they will be worth more than gold and silver (when?) and that there are people, RIGHT NOW, storing these seeds in warehouses by the Arctic Circle. I sh*t you not. I am still scratching my head. When are these seeds going to be worth more than gold and silver and why? Who the hell has rented warehouse space in the Arctic Circle to store these seeds and why? Who the f*ck has an acre of land available to them to plant these survival gardens? This is some serious Tinfoil hat crap. I am still trying to wrap my head around it. It speaks volumes as to who Glenn Beck is and what he believes.

Beck isn't the opnly one with that commercial. It is played on and off throughout the day on our local conservative radio station. I laugh every time I hear it.

284 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:41:53pm

re: #277 Charles

The sound of the door being slammed on the Lizard Lounge combined with the spot light of rationality glaring down at them.

285 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:41:55pm

The Svalbard Global Seed Vault

/I dare you to Google it

286 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:42:00pm

re: #277 Charles

Wow, who woke up all the sleepers?

you did!

287 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:42:13pm

By the way, when the woman who shot the video says "those evolution books" (should be burned) the guy talking to her says, "I'm with you on that."

288 callahan23  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:42:38pm

re: #232 Truck Monkey

Glenn Becks radio program had a commercial on it today for non genetically engineered seeds. Claims they will be worth more than gold and silver (when?) and that there are people, RIGHT NOW, storing these seeds in warehouses by the Arctic Circle. I sh*t you not. I am still scratching my head. When are these seeds going to be worth more than gold and silver and why? Who the hell has rented warehouse space in the Arctic Circle to store these seeds and why? Who the f*ck has an acre of land available to them to plant these survival gardens? This is some serious Tinfoil hat crap. I am still trying to wrap my head around it. It speaks volumes as to who Glenn Beck is and what he believes.

All the scientists who are breeding new varieties of crops need to go from time to time to the original variants in order to freshen up the gene pool of those crops.
But the level of lunacy these tinfoilers use this simple fact for is mind boggling.

289 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:42:59pm

Sorry Charles but I can't get behind the guilt by association arguments. If there are nutjobs at a grassroots type protest, what are you supposed to do? Deny them access? Unfortunately when you have a protest, you are going to get crazies, but given the spontaneous nature of these things, there are bound to be a couple nutjobs. As for the cheering for crazy statements, who knows, I can't view the link. I do tend to notice that at protests, as long as you shout something with authority, you are probably going to get cheers becuase half the people there can't hear anything anyway so they cheer at pauses because it's expected. If I'm off base, then a mea culpa to you, but methinks you are too eager to right off these protests, when I ran into a couple little old ladies last night getting off the new light rail in Mesa, AZ, and they seemed sweet and nice from the little bit of conversation I overheard and had with them.

I think the vast majority of people are pissed about the spending, but are being labeled as tax-haters and nutjobs so no one has to take it seriously.

290 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:43:02pm

re: #251 albusteve

rise above it...

I should have phrased both comments differently.

Yeah, I'm not feeling myself today. Head / throat cold or infection of some sort. I don't expect special treatment, I genuinely should not be contributing to threads in my current state.

I apologise to everybody.

291 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:43:14pm

re: #287 Charles

By the way, when the woman who shot the video says "those evolution books" (should be burned) the guy talking to her says, "I'm with you on that."

Which would mean they're both "plants" in conspiracy world.

292 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:43:19pm
293 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:43:26pm

re: #273 Wishing

Ok credit where credit is due, Beck proved with the *FEMA concentration camp* nonsense that he is willing to do some research. He did the research and got that one right, and called people out for supporting this.
My hope is that he will come to this blog, and others like it, read the comments and consider his actions and statements. My guess is that the creationist stuff is due to a lack of information.
He has proved that he can learn. Let's hope he does.

The creationist stuff is a ratings draw; it's controversial, with no clear majority on either side of it. The FEMA Death Camps were easy to debunk because they were so far over the top no one would have believed a rant to the contrary.

It's all about ratings. Giant attention whore.

294 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:43:39pm

re: #278 Lee Coller

Glen Beck?

Rock them back to sleep.

295 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:44:02pm

We got sleepers in the wire.

296 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:44:08pm

re: #290 Zimriel

I should have phrased both comments differently.

Yeah, I'm not feeling myself today. Head / throat cold or infection of some sort. I don't expect special treatment, I genuinely should not be contributing to threads in my current state.

I apologise to everybody.

cool with me...

297 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:44:09pm

re: #255 rhino2

It is hard to tell the difference though, no?

Often.

298 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:44:18pm
Youtube Video

/cranks are everywhere

299 tommygum  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:44:31pm

re: #50 Honorary Yooper

Hey, ericredwings, why'd you ding me down? You got a reason you want to mention in the thread so we can debate it, or are you a ding-down-chickenshit-troll?

The latter.

300 mmkay76  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:44:54pm

re: #287 Charles

By the way, when the woman who shot the video says "those evolution books" (should be burned) the guy talking to her says, "I'm with you on that."

That's just his agreement with her on creationism, not book burning, per se. But I am shocked at the number of conservatives who reject evolution.

301 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:44:58pm

re: #290 Zimriel

I should have phrased both comments differently.

Yeah, I'm not feeling myself today. Head / throat cold or infection of some sort. I don't expect special treatment, I genuinely should not be contributing to threads in my current state.

I apologise to everybody.

Credit where its due, You deserve this upding now.

302 Lee Coller  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:45:08pm

re: #299 tommygum

The latter.

Not anymore

This user is blocked

303 opnion  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:45:08pm

re: #262 Catttt

Perhaps. However, the crowd phenom, where no one actually contradicts them, set in. One on one, many people will contradict. In a crowd, if no one else does, no one does.

Example: Once, on a bus (night, DC, me the only white person), a guy lit up really stinky hashish. It was truly hugely stinky. The bus was full of working class people. No one said anything. So - I said, loudly,"Mr. Bus Driver, please have them put that out." Everyone then spoke up with "Yeah!" type remarks - loudly. The bus driver pulled over, turned the bus off, pocketed the key, stood up, crossed his arms, and said "We aren't going anywhere 'til you throw that out the window." The guy did. Everyone cheered. We smiled all the way home.

If I am following you, you are suggesting that someone should have loudly complained about the woman? Perhaps, but you can clearly hear an individual take her on. It seemed to me that she was just kind of dismissed. Also if that was a lot of applause , it was mostly one handed.

304 Wishing  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:45:13pm

re: #293 SixDegrees

The creationist stuff is a ratings draw; it's controversial, with no clear majority on either side of it. The FEMA Death Camps were easy to debunk because they were so far over the top no one would have believed a rant to the contrary.

It's all about ratings. Giant attention whore.

Oh I agree 100% that he is an entertainer. He is good at it.

305 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:45:16pm

re: #282 see bs

Can't see video's at work, what books was she referring to? Not that I approve, but I can only hope she was referring to anything written by Marx, Lenin, Mao and Hitler.

Wait scratch that... Forget burning, I forgot that they make good Toilet Paper.

Hitler will have a brown face in addition to his brown shirt. Das Kapital...More like Das Crapital. Mao's Little brown book.

(Hmmm.... gotta look in the viability of making some kind of decal to go in the toilet. Hitler is good... FOR ME TO POOP ON)


I don't want any book banned..This is America..
Besides where else can you read a road map to the dust bin of history?

306 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:45:30pm

If one watches the follow-up video to the CNN reporter meltdown at yesterday's Chicago Tea-Party, it becomes very clear that these gatherings attract a lot of kooks. Also, the reporter herself appears a lot like Beck but of a different mindset.

307 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:45:40pm

re: #5 taxfreekiller

Heavy anti Al Gore snow.

[Link: www.timberlinelodge.com...]

But did you know about the "Green Snow"?

308 callahan23  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:46:04pm

re: #295 NYCHardhat

We got sleepers in the wire.

Sleepers and genetic engineering. --- Hmmm.
Sleeper-Cells?!?
/

309 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:46:24pm

re: #289 robdouth

Sorry Charles but I can't get behind the guilt by association arguments.

It's not "guilt by association" to point out that one of the main organizers of the tea parties is a Ron Paul fanatic who writes articles for crackpot websites.

Obviously, a lot of people would prefer to just ignore this, and that's exactly why the tea parties are being labeled as kookfests. If you don't care enough to speak out against this kind of stuff, that's what you're going to get.

310 Russkilitlover  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:46:56pm

re: #245 Outrider

Are we talking heirloom vegetable seeds in order to preserve the "old timey" vegetables? Or is this something different?

As I understand, genetically modified seeds can't reproduce.

311 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:47:58pm

Half a dozen hate mails already following Beck's show.

312 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:48:05pm

My husband is taking a nap. I...can't...resist...must...nap...

313 brookly red  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:48:24pm

re: #310 Russkilitlover

As I understand, genetically modified seeds can't reproduce.

/something to consider when eating tomatoes...

314 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:48:36pm

re: #221 Vero

Wow, who knew that Ron Paul got my wife and I out to the Cincinnati Tea Party . Here little 'ole me thought it was our government spending habits.

I am such a fool tool.

FTFY...

/

315 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:48:36pm

re: #282 see bs

NEVER destroy a book.
It is the window into the authors soul.
Know your enemy.

316 Desert Dog  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:49:11pm

re: #279 Bubbaman

Now I am beginning to wonder if Napolitano's report was aimed at Beck and his legion of tongue waggers?

I think that report was aimed at all Republicans...trying to taint and further marginalize the right by painting everyone as a kook.

I am not a big fan of Ms. Napolitano. There's a black heart beating in that chest. She is a down and dirty player. I have some friends in the AZ legislature and they have told me stories of her double-dealing and agreement breaking that really piss me off. I am glad to see her out of here, but now, she's in an even worse position to screw the rest of us.

317 jcm  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:49:12pm

BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!

Youtube Video

Kill your converter box!

BTW: It's a prank / hoax video.

318 opnion  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:49:33pm

re: #271 Charles

In the video, when the ranting nut says "if you got kids in school, you got 'em in college, get 'em the hell out of college because they're brainwashing 'em," people start clapping, and you can see a woman behind him nodding enthusiastically. Then the woman shouts "Burn the books!" -- more people start clapping, and at least one person yells "Yeah!"

That's what the video shows.


As I saw it, neither the guy ranting or the book burning woman got much traction. As far as the guy, you can actually see a woman smirking , leaning to talk to a man, while the ranter is raving.

319 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:49:46pm

A caterpillar in a box?

OMG.

320 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:49:58pm

re: #277 Charles

Wow, who woke up all the sleepers?


Youtube Video
321 avirus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:50:26pm

here is the video of glenn talking about you Charles:
(watch from about minute 7)

Youtube Video
322 see bs  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:50:27pm

re: #287 Charles

Thank you!

Burn Evolution Books? Darwin was right in his theories.

(sigh)

323 opnion  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:50:58pm

re: #305 HoosierHoops

I don't want any book banned..This is America..
Besides where else can you read a road map to the dust bin of history?

Hoops, once again you exhibit good judgement.

324 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:51:05pm

re: #309 Charles

You have to actively maintain any organization to keep it viable, that is why Stinky has a stick for instance.

I note that I have never heard of either the Dems or the Repubs kicking a party member out for bad behavior.

325 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:51:18pm

re: #318 opnion

As I saw it, neither the guy ranting or the book burning woman got much traction. As far as the guy, you can actually see a woman smirking , leaning to talk to a man, while the ranter is raving.

I think book burning is ultimately a female attack on the male's higher sensibilities...I'm still working on this theory

326 jcm  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:51:24pm

re: #315 IslandLibertarian

NEVER destroy a book.
It is the window into the authors soul.
Know your enemy.

“How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.”
Ronald Wilson Reagan

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
Sun Tsu

327 Last Mohican  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:51:42pm

re: #261 SAM8

Well stated. Thank you for taking the time to write that.

I've been sitting out of the pro- vs. anti-tea party discussion up to now, and I'm not particularly keen on entering it. I'll just add these two cents: in my mind, there's an important distinction between a loony individual or group showing up at a demonstration, versus a loony individual or group actually organizing the demonstration.

For example, if a grass-roots citizen's group organizes a demonstration against giving in-state tuition benefits to illegal aliens, I might go. And if some Nazis show up and start waving signs saying "America's universities are for white people," that's awful, and frankly it might prompt me to feel like leaving. But I'm not sure that's the right response, and in any case I guess there's not much that can be done to keep them away. However, if the Nazis are the ones who pay for the demonstration permit and choose the speakers, then I don't want to go.

And then there's a more subtle question: what do you think of someone who attends a Paulian-sponsored rally, without realizing it's a Paulian-sponsored rally?

328 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:52:04pm

re: #303 opnion

If I am following you, you are suggesting that someone should have loudly complained about the woman? Perhaps, but you can clearly hear an individual take her on. It seemed to me that she was just kind of dismissed. Also if that was a lot of applause , it was mostly one handed.

You can't just kiddingly say "Are you serious?" then let something like that go. You have to protest loudly - not laugh it off or ignore it. I'm sure people heard that, thought it was idiotic, but kept quiet. Silence gives consent.

329 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:52:21pm

re: #309 Charles

It's not "guilt by association" to point out that one of the main organizers of the tea parties is a Ron Paul fanatic who writes articles for crackpot websites.

Obviously, a lot of people would prefer to just ignore this, and that's exactly why the tea parties are being labeled as kookfests. If you don't care enough to speak out against this kind of stuff, that's what you're going to get.

There's no question that a lot of Paulians and other fringe folks are involved in what otherwise appears to be a worthwhile endeavor. When Obama was building his "grass roots" campaign, which was covertly, and illegally funded by the ilks of Soros, Acorn, etc. no one seemed to raise objections. Now, the turds are in power and are destroying this country.

Are we supposed to do a sanity or ideology check at every turn? While we can uncover some of the fringe, I don't know of an effective way of keeping them out completely. The problem is that these issues resonate to the core of a lot of people and not just the Paulians.

330 nanook  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:52:34pm

re: #115 mmkay76

C'mon, Charles. There was 1 person clapping at the "burn the books" comment. Although, like you, I'm not sure this person was an infiltrator, like Beck claims.

That said, there are an awful lot of nutjobs on the right, but we share the same goal of smaller government. Who cares what their motives are, if they're law abiding. People can burn all the books they want, as long as they own them.

Glenn Beck can't control the fringe of his fan base. I'm sure you have to deal with crazies every now and then.

I haven't been on this site in a while, but I don't get the anti-Beck vitriol. What is that all about?

I"m with mmkay, you don't like Beck, dont' watch him. He's an entertainer for Pete's sake. They're ALL entertainers. He has nutjobs, Olbermann has nutjobs, heck George Stephanopolous probably has nutjobs. What is the point of all the time being spent lately on this blog beating up on Glenn Beck? I'm at a loss. Think I'll go watch some other weblog.....

331 DhimmiMoore  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:52:38pm

re: #310 Russkilitlover

As I understand, genetically modified seeds can't reproduce.

They pollinate, but don't necessarily produce seeds based on the manufacturer's design. In Monsanto's case this is a business model as it gives them yearly license fees.

Their interest in the seed vault is risk mitigation. They haven't the best track record so far (something like 80,000 hectares failed to produce a yield in South Africa). They need something to go back to in case they are wildly "successful" in propagation of their product but there end up being design flaws.

332 brookly red  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:52:46pm

re: #324 Ojoe

You have to actively maintain any organization to keep it viable, that is why Stinky has a stick for instance.

I note that I have never heard of either the Dems or the Repubs kicking a party member out for bad behavior.

/for bad behavior no, for getting caught...

333 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:53:15pm

re: #321 avirus

Thanks, I was just looking for that, Used saved me from watching the whole damn show to find it.

334 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:53:21pm

re: #318 opnion

As I saw it, neither the guy ranting or the book burning woman got much traction. As far as the guy, you can actually see a woman smirking , leaning to talk to a man, while the ranter is raving.

You must be watching a different video than I am. Either that or trying desperately to excuse what the video shows.

I'm tending toward the latter.

335 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:53:49pm

A Growing "Tea Party" Movement?

On the morning of February 19, CNBC reporter Rick Santelli ranted about the plan from the floor of the Chicago Board of Trade. "This is America!" Santelli cried on the air. "How many of you people want to pay for your neighbor's mortgage that has an extra bathroom and can't pay their bills?" The traders milling around started booing and then gathered closer as he continued. Before he was done, Santelli had called for a "Chicago tea party" to protest the bailout. During the next few hours, Santelli's rant led the Drudge Report, was replayed on all of the cable networks, and was seen more than a million times on YouTube.

Santelli-inspired websites quickly appeared attempting to organize tea parties. ChicagoTeaParty.com bills itself as the official home of Santelli's tea party. The site belongs to Zack Christenson, a Chicago radio producer. Christenson had bought the domain last August, thinking it might be a good name for a group. Within 12 hours of Santelli's rant, Christenson had retooled the site, and 4,000 people quickly signed up. On Facebook, dozens of Santelli groups formed, ranging from fan clubs to draft-president movements to tea party plans for Chicago, Texas, New York, and Los Angeles.

Anthony Astolfi bought the domain reTeaParty.com about 10 hours after Santelli's rant. Astolfi is a 24-year-old web designer and small-time political consultant who dabbled in the Ron Paul world last cycle. He thought the tea party idea had a chance to catch on and decided to organize them for July 4. Working with his roommate and a cousin, they finished building a website by midnight. Then they turned to promoting the project. They did Google searches for "Santelli" and left comments pointing to their new site on high-ranking result pages. They spent a couple hundred dollars on a small number of Google and YouTube ads and finally went to bed around 5 A.M. They awoke to 40,000 emails, their site having become a minor sensation. Astolfi says they now have 11,000 people a day coming to reTeaParty.com. Ten thousand people have signed up to get information on the tea parties, and 5,000 have "pledged" to attend one of so-far eight tea parties on July 4.

Two days after Santelli's tirade, John Shilling, an 18-year-old student in Hilton Head, South Carolina, launched a site called 92percentgroup.org. Its sole mission is to oppose the Homeowner Affordability and Stability Plan. "We feel like 92 percent of the country has been paying their mortgage on time, and we've been a silent majority this whole time," Shilling says. "We're hoping to get enough people together to take a stand so we can send a message through action, not a petition." What action would that be? Shilling isn't sure, though he thinks withholding taxes or mortgage payments might work. In a way, the 92 Percent Group is instructive: It's run by an 18-year-old who doesn't have a mortgage and has yet to even decide what he wants to organize (or how to do it). Yet within 72 hours of launching the site, it received 150,000 visits.

There seems to be real bitterness about the idea of forcing people to subsidize the imprudent housing choices of their neighbors. That bitterness is on display on other websites, such as StopTheHousingBailout.com, which urges readers not to get stuck "paying for other people's greed & ignorance" and encourages them to lobby their congressmen.

/I won't vouch for the owners of these sites, but this is were it started, according to what was being reported directley after Santelli's rant

336 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:53:52pm

re: #309 Charles

Charles, as I was arriving at the Honolulu "Tea Party" there were 2 TROOFERS with their "911 was an inside job" banner LEAVING. I believe they were told to leave.
Every one I spoke to connected to organizing the event said they had no affiliation with Ron Paul. It was a grassroots here.

337 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:53:53pm

re: #311 Charles

Half a dozen hate mails already following Beck's show.

Another way to look at this is if Beck is mentioning you, then he realizes that your ideas have traction and he's scared of the lizard army!

338 opnion  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:54:01pm

re: #325 albusteve

I think book burning is ultimately a female attack on the male's higher sensibilities...I'm still working on this theory

Get a government grant! This need to be seriously researched & I would suggest in Maui.

339 Russkilitlover  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:54:07pm

re: #307 IslandLibertarian

But did you know about the "Green Snow"?

P.T. Barnum would be so proud.

340 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:54:11pm

re: #240 ConservatismNow!

Non-genetically engineered seeds? As in seeds that are not resistant to disease, bugs, or rodents?

Exactamundo...it's good to have them for a reference, but there's hardly any way we could support 6,000,000,000+ people with "legacy" crops if it came down to that.

341 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:54:40pm

kooks pollinate...we need science to rescue sanity from the grip of these out of control pollinations

342 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:54:42pm

re: #330 nanook

Think I'll go watch some other weblog.....

Bye now. Take care.

343 Lee Coller  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:54:47pm

re: #324 Ojoe

You have to actively maintain any organization to keep it viable, that is why Stinky has a stick for instance.

I note that I have never heard of either the Dems or the Repubs kicking a party member out for bad behavior.

I've been told by people I trust that the Repubs kicked David Duke out of the party, but I can't with a quick google search find anything to confirm that. That's the only incident I've ever heard of.

344 capitalist piglet  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:55:01pm

re: #324 Ojoe

You have to actively maintain any organization to keep it viable, that is why Stinky has a stick for instance.

I note that I have never heard of either the Dems or the Repubs kicking a party member out for bad behavior.

How would they go about doing that?

345 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:55:29pm

re: #330 nanook

reverse-upding for the excellent Dramatic Effect.
*applause*
*waving goodbye*

346 AMER1CAN  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:55:57pm

I can't defend Glenn Beck at all or any of these TV personality whores. I think he is terrible. In many ways I have watched Glenn Beck grow up. It hasn't been pretty. He use to work early morning a.m. on my drives into school years ago. He kept drifting off into crazy land step by step. Then he went to CNN and he got a little crazier and this made for good ratings which turned into more money.

Ratchet it up a few more notches in the crazy belt and you get to Fox News where he is getting even more viewers and making I presume even more money.

He is just another enterainer who is only after more money. I can't fault him. Pay me a million dollars a year, put a teleprompter in my face and I'll read whatever you want. I will do it because the money means I get to secure my family's future for a long long time. So who isn't going to do all they can to make that kind of money? He found a formula that works and now he is making money. SOB.

Don't let Glenn Beck, Hannity, Bill O, Fox News, be your moral and political compass. These guys are nothing more then entertainers and media celebrities.

Once you understand that, you stop watching and listening to their crap.

They may be selling it, but I ain't buying it.

347 teleskiguy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:56:15pm

Charles,
Just read that TNR article about Ron Paul you linked above. This man, getting all this coverage on Fox News, must be marginalized. I had no idea he was such a loon. Thank you for opening my eyes.
Sincerely,
A guy who actually kind of took Ron Paul seriously, until Charles at LGF showed me the truth...

348 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:56:57pm

re: #272 mmkay76

You listen to Prager, right? His anti-college kick? The value of a college education has gone way down over the years. I wouldn't say they're being brainwashed, but there is a big echo chamber on campuses. Not totally nutty to not send your kids to elite institutions. there was a lot of other nutty stuff in there though.

BTW, I might be an "LGF sleeper", but then again, I do have a job. (and there's not much I disagree with here)

Sod off, swampy...

349 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:57:09pm

re: #347 teleskiguy

Charles,
Just read that TNR article about Ron Paul you linked above. This man, getting all this coverage on Fox News, must be marginalized. I had no idea he was such a loon. Thank you for opening my eyes.
Sincerely,
A guy who actually kind of took Ron Paul seriously, until Charles at LGF showed me the truth...

which link?

350 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:57:31pm

re: #347 teleskiguy

Charles,
Just read that TNR article about Ron Paul you linked above. This man, getting all this coverage on Fox News, must be marginalized. I had no idea he was such a loon. Thank you for opening my eyes.
Sincerely,
A guy who actually kind of took Ron Paul seriously, until Charles at LGF showed me the truth...

People who are excusing and ignoring the Ron Paul involvement in tea parties are making a huge mistake. This guy is pure poison.

351 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:57:34pm

To even claim that this video is reporting on an "infiltrator" doesn't follow logic. All one has to do is look at the Youtube member that is hosting the video, Cookiecache.

Here is an excerpt from her profile:

Put these on your page if you hate The Daily Show and love Glenn Beck (Created by CookieCache).

I'm a recovering marijuana addict living my life for the Lord.
City: Toronto, OH
Hometown: Clinton, OH
Country: United States
Interests and Hobbies: Jesus Christ, religion, God Bless the USA, being a good Christian, God, living for Jesus, 10 commandments, dragoman 1995, Ohio, midwest, heaven, all dogs go to Heaven
Movies and Shows: Glenn Beck ♥

I'll assume she shot the video. Why would a Glenn Beck fan host such a video if they did it with the intent of harming Beck according to the conspiracy theorists?

352 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:57:51pm

re: #330 nanook
Lizardinator L-800 Model 101

Possible Responses:
  And with that I bid you adieu.
  Bye now. Take care.
  Get off my website!

353 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:57:54pm
354 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:58:08pm

re: #344 capitalist piglet

They don't as far as I can tell. They seem to let any ruffian stay.

355 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:58:53pm

re: #352 ArchangelMichael

Lizardinator L-800 Model 101

Possible Responses:
  And with that I bid you adieu.
  Bye now. Take care.
  Get off my website!

In the real movie....
Yes
No
Maybe
Fuck You Asshole.

356 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:59:00pm

re: #346 AMER1CAN

I can't defend Glenn Beck at all or any of these TV personality whores. I think he is terrible. In many ways I have watched Glenn Beck grow up. It hasn't been pretty. He use to work early morning a.m. on my drives into school years ago. He kept drifting off into crazy land step by step. Then he went to CNN and he got a little crazier and this made for good ratings which turned into more money.

Ratchet it up a few more notches in the crazy belt and you get to Fox News where he is getting even more viewers and making I presume even more money.

He is just another enterainer who is only after more money. I can't fault him. Pay me a million dollars a year, put a teleprompter in my face and I'll read whatever you want. I will do it because the money means I get to secure my family's future for a long long time. So who isn't going to do all they can to make that kind of money? He found a formula that works and now he is making money. SOB.

Don't let Glenn Beck, Hannity, Bill O, Fox News, be your moral and political compass. These guys are nothing more then entertainers and media celebrities.

Once you understand that, you stop watching and listening to their crap.

They may be selling it, but I ain't buying it.

With all due respect, if someone pours water representing gasoline on a person in a bizarre attempt illustrate his contempt for the President, he's a loon. End of story.

357 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:59:24pm

re: #351 Gus 802

Beck claims that it "took 2 clicks" to find the information that she's a liberal" who infiltrated the tea party.

358 Hollowpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:59:26pm

re: #309 Charles

It's not "guilt by association" to point out that one of the main organizers of the tea parties is a Ron Paul fanatic who writes articles for crackpot websites.

Obviously, a lot of people would prefer to just ignore this, and that's exactly why the tea parties are being labeled as kookfests. If you don't care enough to speak out against this kind of stuff, that's what you're going to get.

No one is suggesting they be ignored; the "Tea Party" movement should do what they can to distance themselves from any fringe elements like Odom. However you seem to be greatly overstating his influence. A website (one of several) and the ability to get his mug in front of a TV camera do not a "main organizer" make.

Those people I know who attended are neither Paulians or found out about the protests from his followers. Many others have described seeing relatively few Paulians in attendance. The evidence suggesting that this is all a Paulian plot is lacking at best.

359 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:59:42pm

re: #349 NYCHardhat

which link?


I think he's talking about this one


re: #225 Charles

Angry White Man - the bigoted past of Ron Paul.

360 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 3:59:54pm

re: #321 avirus

here is the video of glenn talking about you Charles:
(watch from about minute 7)

Martin Luther Beck?

At least he didn't cry.
/

361 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:00:05pm

re: #330 nanook

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...

362 capitalist piglet  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:00:10pm

re: #354 Ojoe

They don't as far as I can tell. They seem to let any ruffian stay.

I'm sure they don't - I just want to determine what a realistic expectation should be. How do you go about ending someone's relationship with a political party, if they're just someone who talks and votes?

363 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:00:13pm

re: #359 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Niiiiiiice.

Thanks!

364 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:00:16pm

re: #355 NYCHardhat

I forgot to add the one about not getting to post your goodbye speech or anything about Martyr cookies.

365 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:00:32pm

re: #358 Hollowpoint

The evidence suggesting that this is all a Paulian plot is lacking at best.

And of course, I never wrote nor implied anything of the sort.

366 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:00:39pm

re: #357 Killgore Trout

Beck claims that it "took 2 clicks" to find the information that she's a liberal" who infiltrated the tea party.

cyber stud as well...whoa, I'm chilled

367 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:01:08pm

Gees, just watched that video.

Wow. You gotta get up and walk right the f*** out of there.

"Well at least I'm not a bookburner, you Nazi cow."

-FOD

368 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:01:50pm

re: #357 Killgore Trout

Beck claims that it "took 2 clicks" to find the information that she's a liberal" who infiltrated the tea party.

Yeah, two clicks. Did he show this? My two clicks shows that she recently added Glenn Beck videos and a Ron Paul video to her favorites.

And she's been a member since 2006. Let me guess this was all part of a plot hatched in 2006 for the purpose of maligning Beck. Not unlike the Barack Obama birth certificate plot that was hatched in 1961.

369 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:01:50pm

re: #365 Charles

And of course, I never wrote nor implied anything of the sort.

It's always a conspiracy with these people.

370 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:02:02pm

re: #292 Iron Fist

How do you like that? The synthetic receiver, I mean? I've seen them but I've never shot one. I'd be concerned with heat, I think, more than anything else. The aluminum receiver acts as kind of a heat sink, and that's gone. That heat's got to go somewhere. I've been doing some research on that issue over the past two or three weeks, but there I was looking at the gas system (vs. piston driven systems) and mid-length vs. CAR length gas tubes (everything I've seen says that if you are going to have the 16" barrel, go with the mid-length gas system. You aren't losing anything with it).

I haven't experienced any heat related problems nor jamming with my Carbon 15 M4 even when I fired the weapon after a week of not cleaning it since its last trip to the range and fired over a 100 rounds. Never (and I knew better) doing that again since it was a b!@%# cleaning the bolt. Had to use a soft brass pick to scrap off carbon build up inside the bolt. I've also fired AR-15s (including the M16A2) with the aluminum receiver and never really noticed a difference in heat dissipation between the two types.The weapon is incredibly light weight even when fully loaded and my Aimpoint Red Dot with x3 Magnifier. I have thought of replacing the direct gas system with the piston one. I guess it comes down to preference. I love my little carbine, it hasn't failed me.

371 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:02:26pm

re: #323 opnion

Hoops, once again you exhibit good judgement.

You are very kind..
Regards..

372 opnion  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:02:34pm

re: #334 Charles

You must be watching a different video than I am. Either that or trying desperately to excuse what the video shows.

I'm tending toward the latter.

I truly am sorry that you feel that way, we just see it differently.
I have no reason to excuse anything.

373 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:02:38pm

re: #28 avirus

he said two clicks on the web was all that needed to find out that she was a liberal makeing fun of the "tae party"

So, she was a Moby. How damned sad that his crowd of admirers cheered for her instead of telling her to sod off, huh?

374 AMER1CAN  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:02:44pm

re: #356 Bubbaman

With all due respect, if someone pours water representing gasoline on a person in a bizarre attempt illustrate his contempt for the President, he's a loon. End of story.

?

I just said the exact same thing, but in full detail. Did I miss citations or something? Did you read what I wrote in my #346? You lost me...

375 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:03:03pm

re: #342 Charles

Bye now. Take care.

Don't you ever feel like saying "don't let the door hit ya where G-d split ya."?
I would be full of snark. Maybe it's just me.

376 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:03:12pm

Wow, after seeing that video of Beck, I'm even more certain that he's a complete punk.

377 Sloppy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:03:14pm

I suspect that within six months the Beck issue will be moot. It probably will take about that long for his essential silliness to drive away viewers and put an end to his show.

378 MJBrutus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:03:30pm

re: #365 Charles

And of course, I never wrote nor implied anything of the sort.

There seems to be a whole lot of confusion on that point Charles. Since so many of us fail to see the distinction between what you actually wrote and what you say you never so much as implied here, why don't you take another crack at clarifying yourself.

379 Florida Lady  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:03:32pm

I have to say the following about our local tea party:

There were about 5,000 people there. The chief organizers were our local talk show hostess and her husband, neither of whom are Ron Paul fans. In fact, our talk show hostess has been very vocal about her feelings about Ron Paul; she is a Romney fan, in fact. There were no Paulians that I could see, and I took lots of walks around the park actively looking for them. I know that doesn't mean they weren't there, but if they were, they were sure silent. ACORN was there, though.

What I did see were many local patriotic Americans with lots of clever signs, a flyover of vintage planes, speeches by citizens who were not born here and gave us plenty of information about where they came from (Uganda and one of the former Eastern Bloc countries), a town crier who rode through our downtown in full Colonial garb on a horse into the park and read a proclamation about high taxes and wasteful spending, a ceremonial dumping of tea into the river, Congressional pork sandwiches for sale, and a local band who played some original songs. People were happy and upbeat.

It was actually great to see that our locals haven't given up on our country.

Hope this doesn't make me a tool or a conspiracy nut! *smiles*

380 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:04:17pm

re: #378 MJBrutus

There seems to be a whole lot of confusion on that point Charles. Since so many of us fail to see the distinction between what you actually wrote and what you say you never so much as implied here, why don't you take another crack at clarifying yourself.

No thanks. I'll just let you keep putting words in my mouth.

381 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:04:26pm

The only reason that Beck is on TV is that he satisfies the proverbial man bites dog man bits python missive?

382 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:04:27pm

re: #310 Russkilitlover

As I understand, genetically modified seeds can't reproduce.

They can reproduce without any trouble. You may be confusing this with the long-standing practice seed companies employ of producing F-1 hybrids for sale to the public.

Briefly, two distinct genetic lines of a crop plant are produced, each containing sets of recessive genes that, when combined together, produce a double-recessive offspring that exhibits those traits in abundance. So you get, for example, a gigantic tomato. But if you plant the seeds from that tomato, the particular complementary combination of recessive genes isn't available, and it's offspring will not live up to their parent's prodigious qualities. They will, in fact, generally suck badly. So if you want those giant tomatoes again, you're forced to buy the seed from the company that produced them again.

This has been going on since at least WWII, and was a key component of the Green Revolution. It doesn't require genetic engineering to pull off; until very recently, all such plants were produced using traditional horticultural breeding techniques. You can do the same thing, of course, by directly tinkering with the genes, but it isn't necessary. And when F-1 hybridization isn't being pursued, the genetically engineered plants produce offspring just like ordinary plants do.

383 teleskiguy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:04:29pm

re: #349 NYCHardhat

which link?


#225 in this thread. Ron Paul is a hateful, disgusting little man.

384 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:04:35pm

re: #265 NYCHardhat

They're just friends...I was looking for you. ;)

now wait a minute. that line sounds familiar.
you're not my first boyfriend, are you?
(btw, your daughter's all grown up.)
;)

385 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:04:38pm

re: #368 Gus 802

I googled her nic (cookiecache) and nothing comes up but her youtube page.

386 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:04:48pm

The guy talking before the "uR conVerTer box is brainWashinG U!" guy was from the constitution party, a bunch of folks who don't like article Six of our constitution. Chuck Baldwin's leading, and he's tight into the vdare nexus and a gold standard consipiracy nut as well.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

387 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:04:58pm

re: #378 MJBrutus

There seems to be a whole lot of confusion on that point Charles. Since so many of us fail to see the distinction between what you actually wrote and what you say you never so much as implied here, why don't you take another crack at clarifying yourself.

it's all archived...do the work yourself

388 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:05:07pm

re: #369 ArchangelMichael

It's always a conspiracy with these people.

I watched the Open-mindness video before coming into this thread.
... ... ... heh
This is like watching a sequel, with real-life examples.

389 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:05:25pm

re: #295 NYCHardhat

We got sleepers in the wire.

Deploying claymores!

390 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:05:29pm

re: #374 AMER1CAN

Nope. I was trying to summarize in one line what you eloquently articulated in great detail.

391 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:05:43pm

re: #385 Killgore Trout

I googled her nic (cookiecache) and nothing comes up but her youtube page.

Yeah, cookiecache would be rather difficult to search since it's a bit generic. All I've found is her Youtube account.

392 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:06:06pm

I said a couple of threads back... It took a Buckley to get rid of the Birchers. What's it going to take to flush the Ronulans?

The forces of welfare statism are following Napoleon's dictum to the letter: "Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake." They're loving this stuff. Beck, the Ronulans, the Alex Joneses, Troofers, Nirthers, Creationists, and a GOP that's lost in the woods, all coming together in a big, noisy, Fox News-covered orgy of what, exactly?

And once again, the regular, sensible person gets screwed by association.

"He may be a bastard, but he's our bastard" does NOT work when it comes to media image. Sorry.

393 MJBrutus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:06:13pm

re: #387 albusteve

it's all archived...do the work yourself

I have and find no difference between what he said and what he claims to have not said. But hey, far be it from me to question him.

394 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:06:24pm

re: #337 Bubbaman

Another way to look at this is if Beck is mentioning you, then he realizes that your ideas have traction and he's scared of the lizard army!

Precisely...for some people, the truth is cutting a little close to home.

395 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:07:04pm

re: #330 nanook

I"m with mmkay, you don't like Beck, dont' watch him. He's an entertainer for Pete's sake. They're ALL entertainers. He has nutjobs, Olbermann has nutjobs, heck George Stephanopolous probably has nutjobs. What is the point of all the time being spent lately on this blog beating up on Glenn Beck? I'm at a loss. Think I'll go watch some other weblog.....

How many times does it have to be said? Beck's histrionics stain Conservatism, which he presents as a hideous, conspiracy-riddled caricature, which in turn gets lapped up by those eager for a freak show.

It isn't hard to understand.

Please await your next marching orders. And don't let it hit you on the way out.

396 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:07:07pm

re: #384 nyc redneck

now wait a minute. that line sounds familiar.
you're not my first boyfriend, are you?
(btw, your daughter's all grown up.)
;)

I'm definitely not your first boyfriend. I would be your last.

397 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:07:17pm

re: #252 EmmmieG

LOL

398 Desert Dog  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:07:19pm

re: #376 Charles

Wow, after seeing that video of Beck, I'm even more certain that he's a complete punk.

He don't like you, Charles. After all, you are just some jazz musician, what the hell do you know?
/

(Whereas Mr. Beck's single qualification for "expertise" seem to be he has been a "DJ" for his entire adult life)

399 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:07:21pm
400 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:07:25pm

re: #376 Charles

Offer to go on his show. He needs to be PWND. I'd watch. Hell, I'd pay your airfare and hotel whilst in NYC!

401 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:07:40pm

I really loved how Beck sneered out the words "jazz musician," as if being an alcoholic, weeping, ranting talk show host is supposed to be a real accomplishment, while practicing diligently for years, earning several gold records, and touring with some of the world's top musicians is a laughable joke.

A true punk.

402 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:07:59pm

re: #386 Thanos

The guy talking before the "uR conVerTer box is brainWashinG U!" guy was from the constitution party, a bunch of folks who don't like article Six of our constitution. Chuck Baldwin's leading, and he's tight into the vdare nexus and a gold standard consipiracy nut as well.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

He's also the long-time pastor of the fundamentalist Crossroads Baptist Church, which resides in the sticks just to the west of Pensacola, my home town. Most folks here consider him to be nutty as a fruitcake, and his congregation to be mesmerized cultists.

403 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:08:07pm

re: #393 MJBrutus

I have and find no difference between what he said and what he claims to have not said. But hey, far be it from me to question him.

Bye now.

404 jcm  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:08:55pm

re: #389 Idle Drifter

Deploying claymores!

Specter is on Station, standing by.

405 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:09:16pm

re: #401 Charles

I really loved how Beck sneered out the words "jazz musician," as if being an alcoholic, weeping, ranting talk show host is supposed to be a real accomplishment, while practicing diligently for years, earning several gold records, and touring with some of the world's top musicians is a laughable joke.

A true punk.

can you post the video?

406 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:09:34pm

re: #401 Charles

I really loved how Beck sneered out the words "jazz musician," as if being an alcoholic, weeping, ranting talk show host is supposed to be a real accomplishment, while practicing diligently for years, earning several gold records, and touring with some of the world's top musicians is a laughable joke.

A true punk.

Jazz musician! Typical sneer of the brain dead.

Where's the video?

407 AMER1CAN  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:09:43pm

re: #390 Bubbaman

Nope. I was trying to summarize in one line what you eloquently articulated in great detail.

I stopped watching him so long ago. He is completely irrelevant in my life. I too watched that gas video scene (only on youtube because I don't watch his show) and it was so idiotic I felt embarrassed for him, it was that bad. So glad I stopped with Beck long ago. Never saw a single CNN show, and have no plans to watch him on Fox. So many better things to do...

408 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:09:56pm

re: #386 Thanos

The guy talking before the "uR conVerTer box is brainWashinG U!" guy was from the constitution party, a bunch of folks who don't like article Six of our constitution. Chuck Baldwin's leading, and he's tight into the vdare nexus and a gold standard consipiracy nut as well.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

An OT request for info

I had the Constitution Party and the Modern Whig Party "favorited" in IE for further investigation. I've just deleted the CP link. What do you know about the MWP?

409 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:10:05pm

re: #398 Desert Dog

He don't like you, Charles. After all, you are just some jazz musician, what the hell do you know?
/

(Whereas Mr. Beck's single qualification for "expertise" seem to be he has been a "DJ" for his entire adult life)

AND..... a heavy drinker. Don't forget that part.

410 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:10:29pm

re: #404 jcm

Specter is on Station, standing by.

/do not engage the mosque!

411 capitalist piglet  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:10:49pm

re: #398 Desert Dog

He don't like you, Charles. After all, you are just some jazz musician, what the hell do you know?
/

(Whereas Mr. Beck's single qualification for "expertise" seem to be he has been a "DJ" for his entire adult life)

I thought he was a rodeo clown. Is that just a rumor?

412 Wishing  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:10:54pm

re: #385 Killgore Trout

I googled her nic (cookiecache) and nothing comes up but her youtube page.

Is she the one who said, Burn the books! or the one who posted the video, or are they the same person?

413 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:11:03pm

I've noticed that meltdowns are on the rise. It all started when Obama got elected....

414 avirus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:11:05pm

re: #405 NYCHardhat

here is the video:

Youtube Video

(watch from about minute 7)
415 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:11:16pm

re: #321 avirus

here is the video of glenn talking about you Charles:
(watch from about minute 7)

[Video]

Found the video.

416 Desert Dog  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:11:18pm

re: #411 capitalist piglet

I thought he was a rodeo clown. Is that just a rumor?

Not sure about the rodeo, but the clown seems appropriate

417 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:11:31pm

re: #382 SixDegrees

Yep. But there's lots of sources for heirloom seeds, many of them easily found on the web. These people who are talking about having to hide their magic seeds in secret Arctic Circle warehouses are lunatics.

If anybody here is curious, I can find several heirloom seed suppliers and post them here. Off the top of my head, Seeds of Change and Johnny's Selected Seeds have some heirloom varieties.

418 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:11:45pm

re: #401 Charles

Not only is he a raving lunatic he's also apparently an asshole.

419 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:12:09pm

re: #387 albusteve

it's all archived...do the work yourself

Lazy slimeball? Kidding!

420 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:12:30pm

re: #416 Desert Dog

Not sure about the rodeo, but the clown seems appropriate

Clowns scare the shit out of me. Still.

421 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:12:53pm

re: #414 avirus

here is the video:

[Video]
(watch from about minute 7)

re: #414 avirus

here is the video:

[Video]
(watch from about minute 7)

thanks but I'm not watching that shit

422 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:12:59pm
Ronulans

LOL!

423 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:13:22pm

re: #409 Truck Monkey

AND..... a heavy drinker. Don't forget that part.

They're called wetbrains; wetbrains are those former alkys who drank so heavily for so long that the damage done to their pyrimidal cells in the hippocampus of their midbrains is substantial and irreversible, and they never truly lose the emotionally overwrought irrationality with which their chronic sauce abuse inflicted them.

424 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:13:48pm

re: #394 talon_262

Precisely...for some people, the truth is cutting a little close to home.

I don't know if it's inevitable, but Fox is rapidly decompensating in a way reminiscent of a Hollywood starlet (can you say Lindsey Lohan?). It seems that the network's success has led its management to hire a bunch of crazy uncles - Huckabee, Beck, etc. What once was "fair and balanced" is rapidly devolving into "farts and unhinged".

425 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:14:03pm

re: #392 Pawn of the Oppressor

I said a couple of threads back... It took a Buckley to get rid of the Birchers. What's it going to take to flush the Ronulans?

The forces of welfare statism are following Napoleon's dictum to the letter: "Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake." They're loving this stuff. Beck, the Ronulans, the Alex Joneses, Troofers, Nirthers, Creationists, and a GOP that's lost in the woods, all coming together in a big, noisy, Fox News-covered orgy of what, exactly?

And once again, the regular, sensible person gets screwed by association.

"He may be a bastard, but he's our bastard" does NOT work when it comes to media image. Sorry.

The Ronulans are the birchers.

426 Outrider  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:14:10pm

re: #401 Charles

I really loved how Beck sneered out the words "jazz musician," as if being an alcoholic, weeping, ranting talk show host is supposed to be a real accomplishment, while practicing diligently for years, earning several gold records, and touring with some of the world's top musicians is a laughable joke.

A true punk.

meanwhile, he (Beck) is getting paid for his schtick while Charles runs his blog and conducts his research on his dime. Funny how Beck omitted the computer credentials and expertise. Think he should have mentioned avid cyclist and photographer? Or would that be over the top? ;-)>

427 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:15:27pm

re: #423 Salamantis

They're called wetbrains; wetbrains are those former alkys who drank so heavily for so long that the damage done to their pyrimidal cells in the hippocampus of their midbrains is substantial and irreversible, and they never truly lose the emotionally overwrought irrationality with which their chronic sauce abuse inflicted them.

so as long as I'm brilliant I'm still on the tracks?...my hippo has taken a beating no doubt

428 SoDamnInsane  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:15:34pm

Charles,

Long time lurker here (check-out the dated name!).

I agree that we need to prevent the kooks from co-opting any conservative protest movements, but I disagree with your take on the linked video. After she shouts, I hear more laughter than applause (save one person clapping loudly), suggesting to me that people took it as a joke in response to the Birch guy's extended rant. I don't doubt that these crazies exist, I just think it's a stretch to say they represented even a large minority of the audience here.

That being said, let me send you long overdue kudos for standing up for reason in the face of the right's sillier elements (ID, Troofers, etc.). What many of your critics don't appreciate is how remarkably consistent you've been, standing up to nonsense regardless of its origins. It's actually pretty inspirational...

429 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:15:40pm

re: #420 Truck Monkey

Clowns scare the shit out of me. Still.

For you, Truck Monkey...;~)

Evil Clown

He wears those flappy floppy shoes
And those billowy bright clothes
And a big red ball like Rudolph’s
Perched on the tip of his nose
He sports those huge and shiny teeth
Which resemble piano keys
And a massive string of handkerchiefs
To catch his clowny sneeze
He wears a bulky jacket
Filled with all kinds of tricks
Which he whips out with his fat white hands
As he plays his clowny shtick
He has a flower tucked into
His much too wide lapel
If you get too close to smell it
He’ll drench you all to hell
And he wears a buzzer in his palm
That shocks you when you shake
And a bucket of confetti
That over your head he’ll rake
He drives around in his weird little car
With his loud brass honky horn
And is always either smiling
Or else comically forlorn
He has that frizzy hair that floats
Around his balding head
With his whole face hued fish belly white
He looks more than faintly dead
Under piles of pancake makeup
Caked from forehead down to throat
And all his features are painted on
In suffocating coats
You can never tell what he’s thinking
Or exactly what he’ll do
But if you do it with him
The joke will be on you
If you chance to meet him
Beware what he’s about
For Clowny just might getcha
Ifnya don’t watch out
The chap is vaguely sinister
With his creepy clowny grin
And those beady little clowny eyes
That threaten to suck you in
He's positively eerie
Some have dreaded to behold
His spooky painted visage
Since they were two years old
Some kids from the beginning
See him as a Boogey Man
And who’s to say that they’re not right
If he’s more than their dreams can stand?
Hollywood knows he’s chilling
It doesn’t surprise a bit
That when Stephen King needed a monster
He made an evil clown IT
Some people think it’s funny
That other folks fear clowns
But remember John Wayne Gacy:
Guard up, and comments down.

430 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:16:27pm

re: #423 Salamantis

They're called wetbrains; wetbrains are those former alkys who drank so heavily for so long that the damage done to their pyrimidal cells in the hippocampus of their midbrains is substantial and irreversible, and they never truly lose the emotionally overwrought irrationality with which their chronic sauce abuse inflicted them.

Is this true? It certainly would explain a lot.

431 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:17:08pm

re: #399 Iron Fist

Cool. Thanks. I'm of mixed mind on the piston myself. The kits run about $500. If I had the money, I'd go with a Barrett or an LWRC in 6.8 (flip a coin; they are about as equal as you can get). Lacking $2500 in disposable income, I'm doing research to see what I can afford.

It looks like Obama's going to stiff me on my bailout. The son of a bitch hasn't even paid my mortgage for me this month.

:-)

I'd love to get a hold of a Barrett REC7 but I'm seriously lacking in disposable income.

432 Desert Dog  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:17:21pm

re: #427 albusteve

so as long as I'm brilliant I'm still on the tracks?...my hippo has taken a beating no doubt

I hear ya, I was "droned" from 1978 to 1985. The future Mrs. Desert Dog made me stop my evils ways, but the damage was done. However, I am still a smart-ass, not yet a dumb-ass.

433 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:17:37pm

re: #377 Sloppy

I suspect that within six months the Beck issue will be moot. It probably will take about that long for his essential silliness to drive away viewers and put an end to his show.

Quite likely. Expect a continuous ramping up of rhetoric soon in an effort to shore up dwindling ratings.

I am also half-expecting some embarrassing personal scandal to emerge featuring Beck, which I'm sure will be part of a conspiracy as everything else that doesn't go his way is. Something involving underage girls. Or boys. Or perhaps something more barnyard-themed.

Anybody want to place odds?

434 capitalist piglet  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:17:42pm

re: #416 Desert Dog

Not sure about the rodeo, but the clown seems appropriate

I did a little looking around. It sounds like a self-description, not a literal job he once held.

I suppose I would agree with him on that much. Yes, Mr. Beck, you are something of a rodeo clown. But at least you're not a jaaaaazzz musician.

////////

(Trivia: I know four people who went to the same high school he did...two liberal, two conservative, all sane - and two are jazz musicians, incidentally.)

435 jcm  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:18:01pm

re: #410 Killian Bundy

/do not engage the mosque!

Rodger, do not engage the mosque!
Paulbots heading for the tree line!

436 Russkilitlover  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:18:20pm

re: #382 SixDegrees

Thanks for the clarification.

437 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:19:01pm

Maybe I should morph into a cicada.
Bashing around a golf ball all day tomorrow should help.

438 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:19:05pm

I don't watch Mr. Beck, but I watched the vid above. Personally, if I'd never posted here and heard of a blogger who is a jazz musician and computer geek, I'd immediately want to start reading that blog. I know Mr. Beck was condescending in tone, but those two talents resonate with me, and I'd suspect the blog would be interesting (and I'd be correct).

439 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:19:15pm
440 Outrider  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:19:18pm

re: #435 jcm

Rodger, do not engage the mosque!
Paulbots heading for the tree line!

engage. fire mission, over.

441 Summer Seale  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:19:35pm

I just watched the Glenn Beck video and I just have three words to sum it up: What an asshole.

442 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:20:41pm

[Link: www.google.com...]

443 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:20:49pm

re: #441 Summer

I just watched the Glenn Beck video and I just have three words to sum it up: What an asshole.

Sums it up well I think!

444 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:20:53pm

re: #432 Desert Dog

I hear ya, I was "droned" from 1978 to 1985. The future Mrs. Desert Dog made me stop my evils ways, but the damage was done. However, I am still a smart-ass, not yet a dumb-ass.

we will just steer you around if the wheels fall off bro...a good solid smart ass is still an inspiration to the bots and droolers...you're still on the payrole

445 capitalist piglet  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:20:59pm

re: #401 Charles

I really loved how Beck sneered out the words "jazz musician," as if being an alcoholic, weeping, ranting talk show host is supposed to be a real accomplishment, while practicing diligently for years, earning several gold records, and touring with some of the world's top musicians is a laughable joke.

A true punk.

Yeah, you did all that - but can you make devil horns on your head with your index fingers, and act like a fifth-grade boy while you're interviewing someone?

That takes talent.

/////

446 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:21:35pm

Good afternoon lizards. Did anyone hear from RW?

447 SAM8  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:21:37pm

re: #327 Last Mohican

Thanks. As to your last question, if I found out I was attending a Paulian event I'd leave.

448 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:21:42pm

Can we all just agree that Glenn Beck is a butt-plug?

449 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:21:58pm

re: #401 Charles

I really loved how Beck sneered out the words "jazz musician," as if being an alcoholic, weeping, ranting talk show host is supposed to be a real accomplishment, while practicing diligently for years, earning several gold records, and touring with some of the world's top musicians is a laughable joke.

A true punk.

Dear Charles..Twice a month me and the buds get together and play hot shot 4 video Golf.. We take turns owning the music that night.. We listen to whatever our friend believes we should hear that night..
All I'll ask you is this..When I play a couple tracks from you..
1. What is your favorite album
2. What is your favorite guitar and Amp?

When i play the tunes the hoopster would love to say.. Yea..That dude is great and has a cool blog..Did you know his favorite axe is {Charles..fills in the blank} and that tone is coming out of a {Ditto Charles} Amp..
My buds will be going whoooaaa..cool...
Please make me look like a music stud next week Charles..Please!
Kind regards

450 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:22:00pm

re: #445 capitalist piglet

Yeah, you did all that - but can you make devil horns on your head with your index fingers, and act like a fifth-grade boy while you're interviewing someone?

That takes talent.

/////

I've never even seen Charles cry. Is he human?

//

451 capitalist piglet  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:22:01pm

re: #446 pingjockey

Good afternoon lizards. Did anyone hear from RW?

He's good!

452 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:22:23pm

It's going to end up resulting in good PR for this blog.

453 callahan23  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:22:32pm

re: #448 NYCHardhat

Can we all just agree that Glenn Beck is a butt-plug?

Ouch

454 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:22:37pm

re: #448 NYCHardhat

Can we all just agree that Glenn Beck is a butt-plug?

explain butt plug first...do it

455 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:22:42pm

re: #404 jcm

Specter is on Station, standing by.

Bring the rain!

456 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:22:47pm

re: #448 NYCHardhat

Can we all just agree that Glenn Beck is a butt-plug?

Or should be used as one?

457 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:22:50pm

I once had a neighbor who had an affect very similar to Beck, but his politics were decidedly leftist. A very scary neighbor indeed. Kept my kids away, the powder dry and my tools ready just in case. Years ago, these folks would have been locked up in institutions rather than roaming our streets and airwaves.

458 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:23:00pm

re: #417 funky chicken

Hell, even the Burpee catalog features lots of heirloom seeds.

There's no shortage of seeds for plants that will breed true for those gardeners who want to collect seeds. The plants won't have all the disease resistance genes that the hybrids feature, but that's what the heirloom gardeners want. They are the folks who like a challenge.

Me? Give me all the engineered disease and pest resistance you can get in those little buggers.

459 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:23:04pm

re: #448 NYCHardhat

Can we all just agree that Glenn Beck is a butt-plug?

At least Butt plugs are useful.
/here we go again

460 jcm  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:23:08pm

re: #446 pingjockey

Good afternoon lizards. Did anyone hear from RW?

He checked in this morning, good news! PSA is low, continuing as before.

461 Racer X  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:23:47pm

Unfricking believable.

Why in the hell would anyone support Ron Paul after looking at the evidence posted above? Dude is nasty racist. So are his friends at Stormfront.

Glenn Beck - shame on you!

462 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:24:10pm

re: #451 capitalist piglet
Yaaaaay! Been a tough day and needed something positive!
Glen Beck is a loon. I used to catch him on CNN and he didn't seem that nuts. I guess that now that Fox has given him a larger soap box, he can go mad!

463 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:24:16pm
464 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:24:20pm

re: #401 Charles

I really loved how Beck sneered out the words "jazz musician," as if being an alcoholic, weeping, ranting talk show host is supposed to be a real accomplishment, while practicing diligently for years, earning several gold records, and touring with some of the world's top musicians is a laughable joke.

A true punk.

He is a punk. He should start drinking again. The other side of sentimentality is cruelty they say.
/Bet he kicks his dog.

465 carefulnow  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:24:23pm

re: #442 Salamantis

Thanks for that. Interesting!

466 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:24:34pm

Glenn wasn't entertaining when he was one half of "Glenn and Pat" in the morning on KC-101. He's less entertaining now and infinitely more damaging.

467 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:24:44pm

my minister does not know what a butt plug is....will someone explain?

468 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:24:54pm

re: #448 NYCHardhat

Can we all just agree that Glenn Beck is a butt-plug?

Kind of harsh on butt-plugs, though. /

469 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:25:29pm

re: #460 jcm
Thank you. Gotta go, someone needs to use the hotel computer!

470 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:25:29pm

re: #467 albusteve

my minister does not know what a butt plug is....will someone explain?

Damn crickets. ;)

471 Racer X  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:25:44pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

Now, now.

We look to your mommy for tit. Everyone knows that.

472 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:25:46pm

Just finished watching said video. Clearly Beck is trying to incite his viewership into a frenzy once again with his continual rant throughout the video.

There's an old saying that says "once a junkie, always a junkie." Given Glenn Beck's history with substance abuse it's fair to say that this applies to him as well. Even if he's sober the effects of his substance abuse have caused a permanent deranged state of being.

Of course it's a good possibility that he is not sober and indeed is still high on drugs and his behavior points to some kind of amphetamine.

473 CynicalConservative  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:25:48pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

Bye now.

474 jcm  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:25:51pm

re: #467 albusteve

my minister does not know what a butt plug is....will someone explain?

Ahhh, no.

475 brookly red  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:26:14pm

re: #467 albusteve

my minister does not know what a butt plug is....will someone explain?

/well you got yer butt, & then you got yer plug... what is to explain?

476 Wishing  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:26:18pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

Counting 5, 4, 3.....

477 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:26:29pm

glenn beck is a bloated sweaty looking obnoxious dork.
his slow arrogant manner of speaking down to people is insulting,
it is as if he thinks he is imparting pearls of wisdom and wants to make sure we get it. LOL
but he is delivering the most simple stupid unenlightened b.s.
he's boring.

478 mmkay76  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:26:53pm

re: #395 SixDegrees

How many times does it have to be said? Beck's histrionics stain Conservatism, which he presents as a hideous, conspiracy-riddled caricature, which in turn gets lapped up by those eager for a freak show.

It isn't hard to understand.

Please await your next marching orders. And don't let it hit you on the way out.

Well, I don't know how it happened exactly, but I became a Beck fan because he's a lot different than Rush and Hannity, and tends to have more libertarian guests on. His comedy, or histrionics, help get his message across that the government is so far (in the opposite direction) from what the founders envisioned.

I do cringe when some of that conspiracy stuff gets out, like the FEMA camps, but as far as I know, he's never promoted any 9/11 "troof", and he always makes a point to denounce subversive behavior. But that's all the news entertainment I watch. Everything else is blogs (mostly econ) and sources I trust, like Reason and Cato.

The point is, if Obama doesn't screw up, you're going to need conservatives with some personality to rally people and keep in him in check, or else more and more people will end up believing in the nanny state.

Call me crazy, but I'm all for small government populism.

479 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:26:58pm

re: #454 albusteve

explain butt plug first...do it

LOL.....ummmmm..... I think I'm the wrong person for that. Ask your mother.

480 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:27:11pm

re: #479 NYCHardhat

LOL.....ummmmm..... I think I'm the wrong person for that. Ask your mother.

JK!

481 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:27:12pm

Stop the Earth.
I wanna get off.
Anybody scalping tickets to a planet with no vowels ?

482 carefulnow  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:27:32pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

It's whiner, not winer. You oughta know.

483 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:27:47pm

re: #467 albusteve

my minister does not know what a butt plug is....will someone explain?

I know NOTHING. NOTHING.

484 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:27:48pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

I knew I left this site for a reason! Just a bunch of winers that still look to mommy for her tit! Get a life!

BAN me I don't give a shit!

Until you people wake up and stand together for something nothing is ever going to change.

That's whiners. You're obviously to immature to understand that this is taking a true to self stand.

485 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:28:13pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

We dont give a shit if you are banned either.
You piss me off, you fucking jerk.....

486 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:28:16pm

for all you hard core TV junkies out there here is some news...Glenn Beck is a whore for FOX TV...FOX is a large part of the MSM moulding your attitude....sorry about Britt Hume or whoever, maybe he should be a golf pro...the MSM is my dire enemy, that includes FOX and the all the rest of TV land elites...do not subsidize them

487 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:28:35pm

re: #472 Gus 802

Oh, I dunno about that. He could be manic depressive bipolar, and the alcoholism was a symptom instead of a cause.

I'm not a shrink, so that's just speculation, of course. But Beck seems kinda, er, excitable anyway.

488 SAM8  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:28:41pm

re: #327 Last Mohican

Oops. I realize I didn't really answer your question. If you attend a rally and get hit by the same literature from most of the protesters it's probably organized by a group. I'd take a look at it and make sure it's not loony stuff. If it is, skeedaddle quickly.

489 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:28:48pm

re: #484 unrealizedviewpoint

That's whiners. You're obviously to immature to understand that this is taking a true to self stand.

Ummmm, that would be TOO immature. Your point still stands though.

490 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:29:00pm

re: #470 DEZes

Damn crickets. ;)

butt plugs are crickets?....mini gerbil like things?

491 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:29:01pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

Yawns.

492 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:29:34pm

re: #484 unrealizedviewpoint

That's whiners. You're obviously to immature to understand that this is taking a true to self stand.

Maybe he was trying to say that we all like wine? Personally, I like a nice Cabernet now and then.

493 Abu Boo Boo  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:29:36pm

re: #484 unrealizedviewpoint

That's whiners. You're obviously to immature to understand that this is taking a true to self stand.

It's "too immature" not "to immature."

494 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:29:40pm

re: #487 funky chicken

Oh, I dunno about that. He could be manic depressive bipolar, and the alcoholism was a symptom instead of a cause.

I'm not a shrink, so that's just speculation, of course. But Beck seems kinda, er, excitable anyway.

You present a plausible alternative.

Either way it's pretty clear that Glenn Beck is off his rocker.

495 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:29:41pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

I knew I left this site for a reason! Just a bunch of winers that still look to mommy for her tit! Get a life!

BAN me I don't give a shit!

Until you people wake up and stand together for something nothing is ever going to change.

You have no friends and you suck at life. Oh yeah....you are Glenn Beck's Butt-plug.

496 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:29:45pm

re: #490 albusteve

butt plugs are crickets?....mini gerbil like things?

Best laugh of my day, thanks.

497 jcm  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:29:53pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

I knew I left this site for a reason! Just a bunch of winers that still look to mommy for her tit! Get a life!

BAN me I don't give a shit!

Until you people wake up and stand together for something nothing is ever going to change.


Somebody say winers?

498 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:30:00pm

re: #490 albusteve

butt plugs are crickets?....mini gerbil like things?

There are gerbil butt plugs? Wye rod. /

This thread is taking a very odd turn, yes?

499 wiffersnapper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:30:11pm

Digital cable boxes being brainwashing devices? X-Files already did it.

500 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:30:52pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

We're willing to stand for some things, we're just not willing to stand for any damn thing - especially odious and execrable things such as racist supremacism. Which is why we have major problems with those who gratuitously and uncritically give advocates of such heinous views national soapboxes.

501 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:30:56pm

re: #489 Truck Monkey

Yikes! Correcting spelling errors whilst making one. There's nothing lower.
*bowing head in shame*

502 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:31:20pm

re: #417 funky chicken

Yep. But there's lots of sources for heirloom seeds, many of them easily found on the web. These people who are talking about having to hide their magic seeds in secret Arctic Circle warehouses are lunatics.

If anybody here is curious, I can find several heirloom seed suppliers and post them here. Off the top of my head, Seeds of Change and Johnny's Selected Seeds have some heirloom varieties.

Quite correct. They've never completely vanished. Even the seed companies sell them, despite the marketing appeal of the F-1 strains, because developing those strains is a long, expensive process and they simply can't do it for all of their offerings; they've focused more on agricultural varieties like corn and soybeans that they can sell to large farms, and on the "Top 40" when it comes to what home gardeners want. And in recent years, there's been a strong surge of interest in heirloom varieties; heirloom fruits and vegetables are now fairly common even in chain grocery stores, where they command a high price.

503 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:31:25pm

re: #497 jcm

Somebody say winers?

Youtube Video
504 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:31:28pm

re: #498 Catttt

There are gerbil butt plugs? Wye rod. /

This thread is taking a very odd turn, yes?

Might be a good time for me to make dinner.

505 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:31:30pm

re: #500 Salamantis

Kudos

506 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:31:34pm

Waiting for kcinfidel to get the upper-cut to the jaw.

507 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:31:37pm

re: #498 Catttt

There are gerbil butt plugs? Wye rod. /

This thread is taking a very odd turn, yes?

well when you come to a fork in the road, take it

508 Racer X  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:32:06pm

I'm not sure if I'm really paranoid, or the mind control devices inside my computer are just making me this way.

509 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:32:21pm

re: #504 DEZes

Might be a good time for me to make dinner.

butt plug stew

510 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:32:23pm

re: #493 Abu Boo Boo

I can hardly breathe. Quit piling on.
/

511 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:32:45pm

re: #487 funky chicken

Oh, I dunno about that. He could be manic depressive bipolar, and the alcoholism was a symptom instead of a cause.

I'm not a shrink, so that's just speculation, of course. But Beck seems kinda, er, excitable anyway.

Youtube Video
512 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:32:59pm
513 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:33:08pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

Who the fuck is dhimmimoore? only upding for this clownshoe.

514 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:33:15pm

I'll quit if you will

515 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:33:19pm

re: #508 Racer X

I'm not sure if I'm really paranoid, or the mind control devices inside my computer are just making me this way.

Hal?
Hal?
Hal!

F*** !

516 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:33:31pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

I knew I left this site for a reason! Just a bunch of winers that still look to mommy for her tit! Get a life!

BAN me I don't give a shit!

Until you people wake up and stand together for something nothing is ever going to change.

I think everyone is solidly united in wanting you to leave.

Although that may not be necessary.

517 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:33:40pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

I knew I left this site for a reason! Just a bunch of winers that still look to mommy for her tit! Get a life!

BAN me I don't give a shit!

Until you people wake up and stand together for something nothing is ever going to change.

Sorry but my vision of change doesn't include Glenn Beck. Is that so difficult to understand? If I wanted to include an entertainer in my political and ideological view of the world I might as well make Merv Griffin or Dinah Shore a part of my ideological foundations. The latter two might make for a more stable alternative to the trashy Glenn Beck.

518 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:33:44pm

re: #509 albusteve

butt plug stew

I was thinking casserole.

519 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:34:40pm

re: #512 Iron Fist

This is on gunbroker right now. I like the half-rail fore-end. I don't know if you could use a verticle fore-grip with it, but I'm not entirely sold on that anyway. The Rock River is, I think, the best value in its price range.

mmmm AR-15
*Homer Simpson voice*

520 auldtrafford  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:34:40pm

I watched and listened to the video referenced in the thread Comment, and actually the crowd started applauding before the unidentified woman shouts out, "Burn the Books". They were applauding the event speaker who said the colleges and universities are brainwashing their students (an assertion not entirely without merit, given the overwhelming liberal nature of higher education faculties - and lower education faculties, too, for that matter).

The woman who shouted,."Burn the Books" was standing right next to the holder of the camera (which appears to have been a hidden camera of some sort - certainly not one the event speakers were aware of, and one held at a pretty low level) - and her comment was probably not even audible to most of the crowd. Pretty apparent the crowd was not applauding her - or her statement.

Watch it.

521 callahan23  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:34:47pm

re: #463 kcinfidel
kcinfidel
Registered since: Mar 25, 2008 at 10:45 am
No. of comments posted: 4

I knew I left this site for a reason!


Some Jekyll & Hyde Guy I guess. Registers not a month ago and has left the place already?!? WTF
Then how are you jerk even commenting?!?

522 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:35:06pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

Oh, go piss up a rope.

523 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:35:30pm

re: #517 Gus 802

Sorry but my vision of change doesn't include Glenn Beck. Is that so difficult to understand? If I wanted to include an entertainer in my political and ideological view of the world I might as well make Merv Griffin or Dinah Shore a part of my ideological foundations. The latter two might make for a more stable alternative to the trashy Glenn Beck.

Keith Richards emulates my values and lifestyle...KEEF FOR PRESIDENT!

524 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:35:52pm

re: #522 MandyManners

Oh, go piss up a rope.

We have a winner.

525 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:36:09pm

re: #522 MandyManners

Oh, go piss up a rope.

*ZING*

526 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:36:24pm

re: #523 albusteve

Keith Richards emulates my values and lifestyle...KEEF FOR PRESIDENT!

He could be Glenn Beck's running mate! //

//They could both share needles.

527 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:36:29pm

re: #512 Iron Fist

This is on gunbroker right now. I like the half-rail fore-end. I don't know if you could use a verticle fore-grip with it, but I'm not entirely sold on that anyway. The Rock River is, I think, the best value in its price range.

How about one of these for the front yard?

528 debutaunt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:36:42pm

re: #295 NYCHardhat

We got sleepers in the wire.

Ranting in their sleep?

529 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:36:55pm

re: #516 SixDegrees

I think everyone is solidly united in wanting you to leave.

Although that may not be necessary.

don't ban him...forget martyrdom and let em hang there

530 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:36:59pm
531 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:37:11pm

re: #523 albusteve

Keith Richards emulates my values and lifestyle...KEEF FOR PRESIDENT!

Of course, Keef can't be killed with conventional weapons.

532 Bloodnok  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:37:48pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

I knew there was a reason I didn't miss you.

533 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:38:02pm

re: #530 Iron Fist

He needs to get back to his important job of sucking donkey-dick for a dime a herd.

He is over paid.

534 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:38:03pm

re: #526 Gus 802

He could be Glenn Beck's running mate! //

//They could both share needles.

FREE HEROIN!....LET"S ROCK!....BASTARD CHILDREN RULE!...etc

535 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:38:08pm
536 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:38:12pm

I'm not buying the Beck is a nut or the Beck is diagnosable business. I don't care about his psychological twists and turns.

Charles has it exactly right. He is a punk.

537 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:38:18pm

re: #529 albusteve

Next stop, Stormfront or a guest appearance on Beck's show?

538 callahan23  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:38:27pm

re: #513 NYCHardhat

Who the fuck is dhimmimoore? only upding for this clownshoe.

This:
DhimmiMoore
Karma: -58
Registered since: Jun 24, 2005 at 3:20 pm
No. of comments posted: 145

Retch!

539 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:38:32pm

re: #511 Salamantis

Hey, I like Warren Zevon. I'm not sure it's fair to put him in a link about Glenn Beck.

LOL

540 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:38:40pm

re: #534 albusteve

FREE HEROIN!....LET"S ROCK!....BASTARD CHILDREN RULE!...etc

Key up the SMOOTH JAZZ music for Glenn Beck!

//

541 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:39:02pm

re: #512 Iron Fist

This is on gunbroker right now. I like the half-rail fore-end. I don't know if you could use a verticle fore-grip with it, but I'm not entirely sold on that anyway. The Rock River is, I think, the best value in its price range.

Niiiiiiice! My friend is a LFD and has sold plenty of RRA firearms. They are damn good weapons and not overpriced.

542 Racer X  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:39:04pm

So this is Change™

Democrats get united behind a socialist who associates with known terrorists and follows a racist church leader.

Some Republicans embrace racists, anarchists and nazis. Mass confusion and disorganization within the GOP.

Worst of all - LGF is discussing Butt plugs.

*shakes head*

543 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:39:31pm

re: #527 Bubbaman

How about one of these for the front yard?

Wow. The only question is, why don't I have one of those?

544 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:39:45pm

re: #535 DhimmiMoore

That would be me...been here since 2004 but have posted a lot less since the site took its newer obnoxious direction.

What I've learned from this thread is that genetically engineered seeds are superior to natural crops (unproven) and that we should use them because there isn't enough natural crops to feed the world (unprovable, and dangerous).

I've also learned that Glenn Beck is apparently a sexual device.

Got anything else? To me it seems like there is some serious paranoia surrounding libertarians and constitutional conservatives around here, plus a huge dose of self-importance and immaturity.

Glenn Beck is a hack. You have great obnoxious karma . And you can leave too if you want.

545 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:40:10pm

re: #535 DhimmiMoore

Another smug introvert speaks.

546 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:40:12pm

re: #309 Charles

Well I went to the D-backs - Cardinals game instead and that was important enough to take the day off, so you know where my priorities are. I was working under the idea of all the tea-parties, and not just Glenn Beck's specifically. I don't follow Beck, but I think that when the large majority of these parties come together very quickly, it's hard to keep riff-raff out is what I'm saying. What if I had gone down there, and there were some Paulian kooks and someone snapped a picture of me walking by them? Would I now be that guy with the Paul kooks? That's the kind of guilt by association stuff I meant. Does it make the entire operation pointless if 1-5% is kooks? 10%? 20? Where does it lose legitimacy?

547 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:40:27pm

re: #537 Bubbaman

Next stop, Stormfront or a guest appearance on Beck's show?

"let me say this...I was BANNED by that freak Charles Johnson so I KNOW what I'm talking about here"

548 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:40:55pm

re: #542 Racer X

So this is Change™

Democrats get united behind a socialist who associates with known terrorists and follows a racist church leader.

Some Republicans embrace racists, anarchists and nazis. Mass confusion and disorganization within the GOP.

Worst of all - LGF is discussing Butt plugs.

*shakes head*

It certainly is an enema enigma.

549 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:40:59pm

This is encouraging.....

Founding Bloggers For A Better Tea Party (VIDEO)


When we covered the Democrat protests, we saw a lot of Bush-as-Hitler images and depictions, and they always made us cringe.

You know what? Even though they appear with far less frequency, Obama-as-Hitler images at the Tea Parties evoke the same cringe.

President Obama might be a socialist hell-bent on destroying our way of life, but as of yet there is no evidence that he is planning on executing the genetically inferior by the millions. Until there is a shred of genuine reason to believe that President Obama is on the path toward becoming a mass murderer, can we please leave the Hitler signs at home?

We here at Founding Bloggers are observer/supporters of the Tea Party movement - to that end, our hope is that Tea Partiers will not provide detractors with fodder and propaganda opportunities.

Watch the video.

550 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:41:27pm
551 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:41:44pm

re: #520 auldtrafford

I think they didn't hear her for the most part. She had the camera and was talking directly into the mike thingy. The crowd was applauding the asshole up front. However, he just said he wasn't paying taxes and that all the universities were brainwashing the students. Kind of over the top, imho. I realize taxes suck and the unis are pretty liberal, but the guy set off my hyperbole meter.

BUT - the guy who asked if she was kidding ended up agreeing with her when she says the evolution books should be burned, and who knows but that the crowd would have applauded that too, since they basically applauded "close the evil universities."

552 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:41:56pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

I knew I left this site for a reason! Just a bunch of winers that still look to mommy for her tit! Get a life!

BAN me I don't give a shit!

Until you people wake up and stand together for something nothing is ever going to change.

I'll tell you this too...don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

553 Desert Dog  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:42:09pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

I knew I left this site for a reason! Just a bunch of winers that still look to mommy for her tit! Get a life!

BAN me I don't give a shit!

Until you people wake up and stand together for something nothing is ever going to change.

Speaking of Butt Plugs

554 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:42:19pm

I'm not convinced Glenn Beck can't salvage himself. He's sacrificing credibility for ratings, which no doubt, will, not so ironically cost him his ratings. One might suggest he discontinue associations with the conspiracy nutjobs he's seems attracted to.

555 carefulnow  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:42:22pm

re: #520 auldtrafford

I did watch it. And she hollered "burn the books" loudly enough to be heard by the roomful of people and she was applauded by more than one person and it was not residual applause intended for the ranter.

556 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:42:29pm

Ok Bordm...come on out.

557 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:42:34pm

Anybody that makes me look sane, reasonable and rational can't be all bad.

558 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:42:43pm

re: #550 Iron Fist

Wow. I think it'd impress my neighbors :-)

There was a guy with a quad-fifty at Knob Creek when I went a few years ago. It wasn't demilled. I've got no idea how much something like that is worth, but I suspect that it is more than everything I own.

I would have been happy to take something like that as part of my bailout :-)

You may not live far from me.

559 brookly red  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:42:56pm

re: #553 Desert Dog

Speaking of Butt Plugs

Please no links...

560 Racer X  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:43:01pm

re: #535 DhimmiMoore

Are you aware that modern corn was engineered by man? Same with bananas.

These two products did not come about by nature. Man bred them to use.

561 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:43:07pm

re: #545 DEZes

Another smug introvert speaks.

Wow..That post left me speechless and stunned..
If one posted 10.000 links to refute that post..Would it even matter?

562 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:43:20pm

re: #539 funky chicken

Hey, I like Warren Zevon. I'm not sure it's fair to put him in a link about Glenn Beck.

LOL

Use Ted Nugent instead.

/he was an enthusiastic participant in Beck's Alamo Tea Party yesterday

563 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:43:30pm

re: #535 DhimmiMoore

That would be me...been here since 2004 but have posted a lot less since the site took its newer obnoxious direction.

What I've learned from this thread is that genetically engineered seeds are superior to natural crops (unproven) and that we should use them because there isn't enough natural crops to feed the world (unprovable, and dangerous).

You might want to see someone if you think you learned those things here. Because no one ever made any such claims.

I'm just concerned over your apparent disconnect from reality on mundane topics. It makes me wonder what happens when you're confronted with more serious and challenging situations. Like driving on the same road with others, or standing in line waiting for service.

The Yellow Pages will have several listings that you might find helpful in finding someone to talk to about such problems.

564 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:43:38pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

Four posts in a year. We're really going to miss your contribution.

565 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:43:40pm

re: #522 MandyManners

Oh, go piss up a rope.

You know that's like the third time I've seen you post that, and I tried it once at your recommendation. Bad idea, huge mess.

566 Russkilitlover  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:43:59pm

re: #521 callahan23

kcinfidel
Registered since: Mar 25, 2008 at 10:45 am
No. of comments posted: 4


Some Jekyll & Hyde Guy I guess. Registers not a month ago and has left the place already?!? WTF
Then how are you jerk even commenting?!?

(psst....registered over a year ago).

567 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:44:13pm

re: #536 The Shadow Do

I'm not buying the Beck is a nut or the Beck is diagnosable business. I don't care about his psychological twists and turns.

Charles has it exactly right. He is a punk.

There's no question that he's a punk but the psychopathology is important and in my opinion it is the prima facie behind his popularity. He's the ADD kid in elementary school who used to act out in order to get all of the attention by pulling the legs off of ants and by doing other strange things.

568 DhimmiMoore  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:44:16pm

re: #560 Racer X

Are you aware that modern corn was engineered by man? Same with bananas.

These two products did not come about by nature. Man bred them to use.

Genetic engineering salmon genes into tomatoes is vastly different from what you speak of.

569 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:44:20pm

re: #535 DhimmiMoore

Oh, go piss up a rope.

570 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:44:36pm

re: #522 MandyManners

Oh, go piss up a rope.

As always, Mandy shows us that brevity is the soul of wit...

;-P

571 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:44:52pm

re: #561 HoosierHoops

Wow..That post left me speechless and stunned..
If one posted 10.000 links to refute that post..Would it even matter?

Mine or his?

572 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:45:15pm

re: #569 MandyManners

Oh, go piss up a rope.

We have a winner.

573 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:45:30pm

re: #571 DEZes

Mine or his?

His!
Hope you are well tonight

574 auldtrafford  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:45:33pm

re: #551 Catttt

I don't know if the guy agreed with her or just didn't argue; otherwise, yeah you got it right.

Point: applause was not for "Burn the Books"; it was for the "Universities brainwash" statement. Not sure I would have applauded the line ("brainwash" is a little strong), but it's a far different type comment than "Burn the Books". Doesn't exactly show the crowd was a bunch of kooks.

575 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:45:55pm

Check out Instapundit, PJM sources are counting as high as 280,000 for yesterday.

/pretty impressive for the middle of a work week

576 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:46:20pm

re: #565 robdouth

You know that's like the third time I've seen you post that, and I tried it once at your recommendation. Bad idea, huge mess.

You kind of have to be by yourself. Anyone standing by giving instructions or finding great humor in the exercise will doom the process to failure.

577 callahan23  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:46:45pm

re: #566 Russkilitlover
Ooops, I regressed for over a year!
/

578 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:46:51pm

Looks like it might be a heck of a night tonight.

I'm going to go get a bottle of wine.

BBL...

579 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:46:55pm

re: #535 DhimmiMoore

That would be me...been here since 2004 but have posted a lot less since the site took its newer obnoxious direction.

What I've learned from this thread is that genetically engineered seeds are superior to natural crops (unproven) and that we should use them because there isn't enough natural crops to feed the world (unprovable, and dangerous).

Actuaslly, the genetic modifications render the crops more resistant to parasites and blights, capable of producing higher yields, able to grow under climate conditions (temperature, water scarcity) in which native strains would wither and die, and full of vitamins, minerals and nutrients that natural strains lack. Genetic modification simply does directly what selective breeding has done indirectly, and much surer and more rapidly.

For instance, tell those southeast asian kids that they shouldn't eat that genetically modifiedrice with the spliced-in daffodil sequence that causes it to be rich in Vitamin A and prevents its consumers from developing rickets.

580 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:47:04pm

re: #573 HoosierHoops

His!
Hope you are well tonight

I am fantastic, I hope you are as well.

581 Racer X  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:47:34pm

re: #568 DhimmiMoore

And?

582 Pietr  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:47:56pm

Test....Test.

583 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:48:29pm

re: #550 Iron Fist

Wow. I think it'd impress my neighbors :-)

There was a guy with a quad-fifty at Knob Creek when I went a few years ago. It wasn't demilled. I've got no idea how much something like that is worth, but I suspect that it is more than everything I own.

I would have been happy to take something like that as part of my bailout :-)

No way I could ever own something like that if it wasn't demilled - living in the D.C. area (sigh). A few years ago, I had the privilege of seeing a guy's collection in a more hospitable state that included many intact and working high level vintage systems.

584 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:48:41pm

re: #582 Pietr

Test....Test.

If I knew about this test I would have left early.

585 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:48:46pm

Here come the raving kooks.

586 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:48:50pm

Anty.... Come on out.

587 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:48:56pm

re: #582 Pietr

Test....Test.

You're coming in five-by-five...

588 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:49:02pm

re: #535 DhimmiMoore

Got anything else? To me it seems like there is some serious paranoia surrounding libertarians and constitutional conservatives around here, plus a huge dose of self-importance and immaturity.


Let me make sure I have this right, Lizards are irrationally fearful, childlike little people with Napoleonic complexes?

In contrast of course, you are part of the ever lucid libertarian (losertarian) "true conservative" mainstream, No?

589 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:49:12pm

re: #582 Pietr

Test....Test.


And I forgot to bring a pencil.

590 auldtrafford  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:49:25pm

re: #555 carefulnow

I did watch it. And she hollered "burn the books" loudly enough to be heard by the roomful of people and she was applauded by more than one person and it was not residual applause intended for the ranter.

Well, I disagree. Point is: if you care about this, and whether the Comment at the top of the thread is accurate, watch it. You did, and I appreciate it. I think reasonable observers could disagree about it - that's all.

591 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:49:27pm

re: #587 talon_262

You're coming in five-by-five...

Roger, Over.

592 DhimmiMoore  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:49:32pm

re: #563 SixDegrees

You might want to see someone if you think you learned those things here. Because no one ever made any such claims.

You should read upthread first.

it's good to have them for a reference, but there's hardly any way we could support 6,000,000,000+ people with "legacy" crops if it came down to that.

A ridiculous assertion that was left to drift in the wind at post 340.

There is no point trying to debate here. I just wanted to post in support of what appears to be a rise in traditional conservative principles.

593 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:49:38pm

re: #565 robdouth

You know that's like the third time I've seen you post that, and I tried it once at your recommendation. Bad idea, huge mess.

ROFLMAO!

594 Pietr  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:49:50pm

re: #584 unrealizedviewpoint

If I knew about this test I would have left early.

Just wanted to see if Icon was actually there......no more football....

595 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:50:04pm

re: #575 Killian Bundy

Check out Instapundit, PJM sources are counting as high as 280,000 for yesterday.

/pretty impressive for the middle of a work week

/over 330,000 now

596 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:50:07pm

re: #549 Killgore Trout

This is encouraging.....

Founding Bloggers For A Better Tea Party (VIDEO)

Watch the video.

That IS encouraging. However, instead of saying to just leave the sign at home, they need to say that you need to leave the person who would hold such a sign at home. Not welcome around me. It implies that they would take them with a sign that's not over the top like that. Fuck that. It's not just their sign, it's them.

597 Racer X  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:50:10pm

Whoa.

Was there just a huge disturbance in the force?

Like a winer or two cried out in unison "Waaaaaaah" as the were smacked in the head by stinky?

598 bosforus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:50:13pm

I don't think Glenn Beck realizes how over the top he sounds. If half as much drama existed in the world as his intonations suggest we'd have all been wiped out by nukes before they existed.

599 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:51:00pm

re: #592 DhimmiMoore

rise in traditional conservative principles.

Its here. Trust me.

600 Bubbaman  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:51:03pm

re: #543 SixDegrees

Wow. The only question is, why don't I have one of those?

I was thinking of putting something like that in my front yard with a big American flag attached to it and surround it with a planting of daisies. It would drive my uber-lib neighbors wild.

601 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:51:15pm

HYBRID PLANTS ARE DANGEROUS!1!ELEVENTY!1

HIDE YOUR SEEDS INSIDE THE ARCTIC CIRCLE, IN A SOOPER SEKRIT LOCATION, BECAUSE BURPEE WON'T SELL THOSE HEIRLOOM VARIETIES NEXT YEAR BECAUSE TZAR OBAMA WILL BAN THEM!1!1!

yep. sounds sane and un-paranoid to me.

:-O

602 carefulnow  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:51:19pm

re: #590 auldtrafford

Fair enough.

603 Lee Coller  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:51:19pm

re: #463 kcinfidel

Wow, even an upding from DhimmiMoore!

604 Bloodnok  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:51:32pm

re: #568 DhimmiMoore

Genetic engineering salmon genes into tomatoes is vastly different from what you speak of.

And if you stew apples like cranberries, they taste more like prunes than rhubarb does.

/Groucho

605 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:52:14pm

re: #535 DhimmiMoore

You do realize that yellow bananas are not naturally occurring crops.
It took 7000-12,000 years to get domesticated maize to become what we recognize it as today.

606 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:52:39pm

re: #594 Pietr

Just wanted to see if Icon was actually there......no more football....

Too cute!

/or is to cute

607 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:52:43pm

re: #597 Racer X

weiner? wino? whiner?

608 The Other Les  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:53:03pm

Check this out.

Baloo's Cartoon Blog.

609 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:53:04pm

Svalbard Global Seed Vault

/I dared ya

610 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:53:06pm

re: #568 DhimmiMoore

Genetic engineering salmon genes into tomatoes is vastly different from what you speak of.

OK, you're on to us and our plan to implant salmon's natural mind controlling abilities into the vast cornfields that spread across the entire continent, giving us saturation coverage and the ability to make the entire population attempt to leap upstream on command. And I'll confess before you stumble upon it yourself - that's EXACTLY the reason we developed microwave popcorn, and why it's so popular and is found in nearly every household. But 'nearly' just isn't good enough - we want total domination, and you've foolishly revealed our plans for fish-corn-telekinesis.

Enjoy your last moments of freedom. Hail Xenu!

611 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:53:31pm

re: #605 Idle Drifter

I think those numbers are a little high.

612 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:53:56pm

re: #601 funky chicken

HYBRID PLANTS ARE DANGEROUS!1!ELEVENTY!1

HIDE YOUR SEEDS INSIDE THE ARCTIC CIRCLE, IN A SOOPER SEKRIT LOCATION, BECAUSE BURPEE WON'T SELL THOSE HEIRLOOM VARIETIES NEXT YEAR BECAUSE TZAR OBAMA WILL BAN THEM!1!1!

yep. sounds sane and un-paranoid to me.

:-O

No - Antarctica!

Youtube Video
613 apachegunner  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:53:58pm

charles, you are on the wrong side of this. I can understand the your evolutionism side and your apathetic side on religion but I totally disagree with you here. thats two out of two and number three is almost decides.! seems to me the big lizard is running away :>) it's your place do what you wanna do.

614 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:54:03pm

re: #585 Charles

Here come the raving kooks.

We have a kook attracting superfecta today. Ron Paul, Glenn Beck, The Open-mindedness video and now the Anti-GM foods moonbats are here too. We are shitting on a lot of wackos sacred cows.

615 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:54:14pm

re: #585 Charles

Here come the raving kooks.

Ya think?

616 callahan23  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:54:31pm

kcinfidel & DhimmiMoore
Both.
These users are blocked.
Stinky's gotta good day.

617 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:54:52pm

re: #607 funky chicken

weiner? wino? whiner?

I'll take wino for 1000 Alex.

618 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:54:58pm

re: #616 callahan23

kcinfidel & DhimmiMoore
Both.
These users are blocked.
Stinky's gotta good day.

/no bag limit

619 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:55:08pm

re: #614 ArchangelMichael

Now all we need is an evolution thread to make it perfect.

620 avanti  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:55:12pm

re: #605 Idle Drifter

You do realize that yellow bananas are not naturally occurring crops.
It took 7000-12,000 years to get domesticated maize to become what we recognize it as today.

But I thought they were designed by God to fit the human hand and with the nice easy to peel wrapper//.

621 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:55:21pm

re: #616 callahan23

kcinfidel & DhimmiMoore
Both.
These users are blocked.
Stinky's gotta good day.

Anty and Bordm are lurking. Keep a watchful eye.

622 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:55:23pm

Hey Lizards! Did everyone hear that our Brother RealWest got good news from his Doctor today?
For all of you that bowed their head and said a quiet prayer for RW..Bless you.
I have joy in my heart today for RW..

623 Racer X  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:55:26pm

What kind of bait are you guys using to catch your tomatoes?

I prefer a #10 Caddis floated down the leaf stalk on short cast.

624 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:55:52pm

re: #616 callahan23

kcinfidel & DhimmiMoore
Both.
These users are blocked.
Stinky's gotta good day.

Stinky's swinging arm is gonna be tired tonight.

625 jaunte  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:56:06pm

re: #622 HoosierHoops

Hey Lizards! Did everyone hear that our Brother RealWest got good news from his Doctor today?
For all of you that bowed their head and said a quiet prayer for RW..Bless you.
I have joy in my heart today for RW..

Great news!

626 Bordm  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:56:17pm

re: #621 NYCHardhat

Anty and Bordm are lurking. Keep a watchful eye.

What are you, the fucking hall monitor?

627 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:56:28pm

re: #623 Racer X

What kind of bait are you guys using to catch your tomatoes?

I prefer a #10 Caddis floated down the leaf stalk on short cast.

I prefer a net. Much more productive.

628 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:56:36pm

re: #601 funky chicken

It's driving the price of seeds up as if they are like.... ammo.

629 carefulnow  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:56:42pm

re: #613 apachegunner

On the wrong side of book burning? Digital TV as a brainwashing device? Beck's wet brain? What?

630 Racer X  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:57:12pm

re: #627 UncleRancher

I prefer a net. Much more productive.

Wheres the sport in that?

631 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:57:20pm

re: #622 HoosierHoops

Hey Lizards! Did everyone hear that our Brother RealWest got good news from his Doctor today?
For all of you that bowed their head and said a quiet prayer for RW..Bless you.
I have joy in my heart today for RW..

Great news, thanks for the update.

632 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:57:29pm

Evolution of Dance:

Youtube Video
633 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:57:37pm

re: #626 Bordm

What are you, the fucking hall monitor?

No, I am.

*whack*

634 Wendya  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:57:39pm

re: #336 IslandLibertarian


Every one I spoke to connected to organizing the event said they had no affiliation with Ron Paul. It was a grassroots here.

Their secret mind control program has worked. You just think you were protesting taxation and excessive spending.

635 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:57:49pm

re: #626 Bordm

What are you, the fucking hall monitor?

No. Sane.

636 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:57:59pm

re: #630 Racer X

Wheres the sport in that?

I'm too old for sport and have too many mouths to feed. Git 'er done!

637 jcm  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:58:08pm

re: #621 NYCHardhat

Anty and Bordm are lurking. Keep a watchful eye.

Fish On!

638 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:58:20pm

If anybody is interested in heirloom seeds:

[Link: www.chron.com...]

Seed sellers suggest that vegetables are insurance against the evils of E. Coli scares and the fear of unemployment (if Scarlett O’Hara could survive on carrots, by golly, so can we) as well as living proof of a manifesto to eat locally grown and organic food. They are also the seed of choice for a new generation of gardeners — and you don’t have to be Gregor Mendel to figure out who has the advantage there.
This battle is playing out quietly but colorfully in catalogs from the 134-year-old W. Atlee Burpee Co. and 12-year-old Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds. Curiously, Burpee’s empire is built on innovation, while Baker Creek is focused on heritage preservation.
In phone interviews this week, Burpee CEO George Ball, 56, and Baker Creek founder Jere Gettle, 28, were equally passionate about seeds. But their philosophies are night and day.
“Burpee was the first modern seed company,” said Ball. Burpee, he explained, became a household name because founder W. Atlee Burpee solved the plight of immigrant farmers who’d carried old European seeds to America, only to discover they didn’t grow dependably here. Jumping on his era’s new genetic science, the then-18-year-old Burpee helped lead the charge to create new strains with higher yields.
New varieties are still Burpee’s bread and butter. “We are always looking to, as Bernard Berenson said, ‘Vary the line,’ ” Ball said.
This year his catalog cover girl is the World’s First ‘Sweet Seedless’ Tomato. It’s sliced open, close-up, glistening — so ripe-wet you half expect to have to mop up the desk behind it.

They discuss heirlooms farther down in the article.

639 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:58:20pm

re: #623 Racer X

What kind of bait are you guys using to catch your tomatoes?

I prefer a #10 Caddis floated down the leaf stalk on short cast.

I usually wait until mine spawn, and just club 'em.

640 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:58:24pm

re: #626 Bordm

What are you, the fucking hall monitor?

C'mon, tell me no one chuckled when they read that?

641 callahan23  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:58:44pm

re: #622 HoosierHoops

Hey Lizards! Did everyone hear that our Brother RealWest got good news from his Doctor today?
For all of you that bowed their head and said a quiet prayer for RW..Bless you.
I have joy in my heart today for RW..

What an excellent news. He was so much in my thoughts. May he be blessed.

642 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:58:54pm
643 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:59:01pm

re: #640 unrealizedviewpoint

C'mon, tell me no one chuckled when they read that?

I was the asshole stuffing the hall monitor in the locker.

644 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:59:03pm

re: #640 unrealizedviewpoint

C'mon, tell me no one chuckled when they read that?

I thought you were serious or something.

645 Wishing  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:59:07pm

re: #640 unrealizedviewpoint

C'mon, tell me no one chuckled when they read that?

I sure did! lol

646 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:59:20pm

re: #626 Bordm

What are you, the fucking hall monitor?

Yeah, but this ain't the fucking hall. Too bad, eh?

647 debutaunt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:59:21pm

re: #617 NYCHardhat

I'll take wino for 1000 Alex.

Please put that in the form of a compound question.

648 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:59:27pm

re: #633 MandyManners

No, I am.

*whack*

That was simply classic.

649 apachegunner  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:59:29pm

re: #622 HoosierHoops

Hey Lizards! Did everyone hear that our Brother RealWest got good news from his Doctor today?
For all of you that bowed their head and said a quiet prayer for RW..Bless you.
I have joy in my heart today for RW..


ahhhhhhhh, god was listening. ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

650 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 4:59:31pm

re: #630 Racer X

Wheres the sport in that?

At our age, this is as sportin' as it gets.
-Secondhand Lions

651 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:00:00pm

re: #626 Bordm

What are you, the fucking hall monitor?

Got you to come out. :D

652 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:00:00pm

re: #614 ArchangelMichael

We have a kook attracting superfecta today. Ron Paul, Glenn Beck, The Open-mindedness video and now the Anti-GM foods moonbats are here too. We are shitting on a lot of wackos sacred cows.

Well now you just pissed off the small minority of Hindu wackos out there with the cow comment.

653 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:00:05pm

re: #638 funky chicken

Scarlett was eating turnips, I thought.

654 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:00:15pm

Ah, let dhimmimoore back. He was kinda funny.

655 apachegunner  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:00:21pm

re: #629 carefulnow

On the wrong side of book burning? Digital TV as a brainwashing device? Beck's wet brain? What?


no, on the wrong side of me.

656 jhrhv  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:00:27pm

It's bad that so many high profile repubs and getting as moonbatty as the KOSlings have been for years and Zero's only been in office for a few months.

657 carefulnow  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:00:36pm

re: #640 unrealizedviewpoint

Actually, I wondered where the fucking hall was. I thought Charles had shut it down. ;)

658 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:00:45pm

re: #596 SasquatchOnSteroids

That IS encouraging. However, instead of saying to just leave the sign at home, they need to say that you need to leave the person who would hold such a sign at home. Not welcome around me. It implies that they would take them with a sign that's not over the top like that. Fuck that. It's not just their sign, it's them.

Confronting the guy is a good step in the right direction. Even just one confrontation might be enough that the guy would fell embarrassed enough that he might think twice next time. If a couple people had confronted him we would definitely think twice.

659 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:00:56pm

re: #650 SasquatchOnSteroids

At our age, this is as sportin' as it gets.
-Secondhand Lions

That's one of my favorite lions... I mean lines.

660 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:01:09pm

re: #633 MandyManners

No, I am.

*whack*

This will get the upding record.

Mark my words.

661 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:01:14pm

re: #652 robdouth

Well now you just pissed off the small minority of Hindu wackos out there with the cow comment.

I am standing here beside myself with anger, sir! Anger, I tell you. Please to cease defecating upon the cows, I beg of you, sir.

662 Pietr  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:01:14pm

re: #622 HoosierHoops

Hey Lizards! Did everyone hear that our Brother RealWest got good news from his Doctor today?
For all of you that bowed their head and said a quiet prayer for RW..Bless you.
I have joy in my heart today for RW..

Here's where he announced it on the LNDT this AM:

re: #839 realwest

663 callahan23  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:01:41pm

re: #626 Bordm

What are you, the fucking hall monitor?


No, it's me.
Confusing, heh?

664 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:01:49pm

re: #617 NYCHardhat

I'll take wino for 1000 Alex.

I don't care what it costs, if the Penis Mightier works, I'll buy a dozen.

- SNL Celeb Jeopardy

665 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:03:24pm

re: #661 OldLineTexan

I am standing here beside myself with anger, sir! Anger, I tell you. Please to cease defecating upon the cows, I beg of you, sir.

Is it wrong that I immediately envisioned Apu from the Simpsons when I read that?

666 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:03:52pm

Comment of the beast?

667 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:04:00pm

re: #660 NYCHardhat

This will get the upding record.

Mark my words.

Like I said, classic. ;)

668 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:04:01pm

Yes!

669 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:04:14pm

re: #620 avanti

That reminds me of Blake's famous poem about the tiger, where he asks
"Did he who made the lamb make thee?

And the answer is no, people made the lamb by domestication.

Blake's poem:


TIGER, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare seize the fire?

And what shoulder and what art
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand and what dread feet?

What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? What dread grasp
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?

When the stars threw down their spears,
And water'd heaven with their tears,
Did He smile His work to see?
Did He who made the lamb make thee?

670 callahan23  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:04:34pm

re: #654 funky chicken

Ah, let dhimmimoore back. He was kinda funny.


You only want another serving of troll buttocks. /

671 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:04:49pm

re: #666 Catttt

Comment of the beast?

LOL ... well timed.

672 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:05:09pm

re: #666 Catttt

Comment of the beast?

Looks good with Basement Cat!

673 Wishing  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:05:10pm

re: #669 Ojoe

I thought lambs couldn't exist in the wild? I read that somewhere in years gone by..

674 Bordm  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:05:36pm

re: #663 callahan23

No, it's me.
Confusing, heh?

Nope, you've only been around for a year. Your job still is the crapper cleaner and toilet paper changer

675 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:05:49pm

re: #671 Archimedes

LOL ... well timed.

I'm unaccountably pleased with myself. :D

676 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:05:49pm

Uh oh - Exploding Moonbat Head Alert!

I'd urge anyone who thinks this was a good decision to get word out to the White House on your feelings. A little praise will help ensure against any ill-advised reversals brought about by the pressure mentioned in the article.

677 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:05:58pm

re: #665 robdouth

Is it wrong that I immediately envisioned Apu from the Simpsons when I read that?

yes. evil, no?

678 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:06:11pm

re: #671 Archimedes

LOL ... well timed.

You know he was just sitting there refreshing the new comments button waiting for that. Takes some serious commitment.

679 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:06:17pm

re: #650 SasquatchOnSteroids

At our age, this is as sportin' as it gets.
-Secondhand Lions

Great movie.

680 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:06:28pm

re: #673 Wishing

Wolves eat them, and such other fates befall them, in the wild.

681 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:06:38pm

re: #669 Ojoe

And here I always thought of Robert Blake as crude.
/

682 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:06:48pm

re: #674 Bordm

Nope, you've only been around for a year. Your job still is the crapper cleaner and toilet paper changer

You are a child.

683 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:07:19pm

I'm not the hall monitor. I'm outside smoking.

684 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:07:33pm
685 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:07:45pm

78 for 3,608.

Goooooooooooood karma!

686 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:08:01pm

re: #674 Bordm

Nope, you've only been around for a year. Your job still is the crapper cleaner and toilet paper changer

That's it, me boyo. Next time you're stranded on the bowl, stranded without a roll, get a smooth stone. I won't save you.

687 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:08:15pm

re: #654 funky chicken

Ah, let dhimmimoore back. He was kinda funny.

Not a chance, and especially not after the email he just sent me.

688 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:08:18pm

re: #682 NYCHardhat

You are a child.

Well when I was a child I spoke as a child and thought as a child. When I became a man, I put away childish things, except for my playstation, that came to college with me.

689 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:08:29pm

re: #681 unrealizedviewpoint

William B.

(Same first name as Shakespeare,

It might have helped.)

690 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:08:30pm

re: #675 Catttt

I'm unaccountably pleased with myself. :D

It's amazing the little things that can put a smile on my face, and yet there are comedy movie producers out there putting up tons of time and money and won't get a laugh out of me. Go figure.

691 Pietr  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:08:34pm

re: #669 Ojoe

My favorite Blake....I had a link with pictures, but misplaced it.....

692 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:08:44pm

re: #684 Iron Fist

I was dissappointed when Intel didn't make a Pentium 666 mHz. There were so many interesting marketing campaigns that they could have done. Work like hell...

Pentiums did run hotter than Hell.

693 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:08:53pm

re: #684 Iron Fist

I was dissappointed when Intel didn't make a Pentium 666 mHz. There were so many interesting marketing campaigns that they could have done. Work like hell...

There was a great Motel 666 fake ad on the radio for about one day (I'm sure Motel 6 complained). Just look for the burning goat's head down by the highway! :D

694 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:09:19pm

re: #611 UncleRancher

Archaeologists and paleobotanists place the agricultural use maize to 8700 years ago. This number varies slightly with new evidence to when the grass plant became the crop.

695 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:09:24pm

re: #688 robdouth

Well when I was a child I spoke as a child and thought as a child. When I became a man, I put away childish things, except for my playstation, that came to college with me.

ps2 and my giant inflatable rubber ducky.

696 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:09:31pm

re: #686 OldLineTexan

That's it, me boyo. Next time you're stranded on the bowl, stranded without a roll, get a smooth stone. I won't save you.

Better yet, let 'em use their hand...

697 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:09:36pm

re: #674 Bordm

Nope, you've only been around for a year. Your job still is the crapper cleaner and toilet paper changer

So callahan23 is scrubbing you off the bowl...good on him!

698 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:09:42pm

re: #687 Charles

Not a chance, and especially not after the email he just sent me.

Oh that is just too juicy to just put out there. That's so wrong. I'm going to have to be the one to ask I guess. What did it say?

699 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:09:43pm

re: #684 Iron Fist

I was dissappointed when Intel didn't make a Pentium 666 mHz. There were so many interesting marketing campaigns that they could have done. Work like hell...


Blazing fast.
Smoking hot.
G-D damned junk.

700 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:09:50pm

re: #691 Pietr

The line:

In what furnace was thy brain?


OMG

701 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:10:02pm
702 Russkilitlover  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:10:14pm

re: #653 OldLineTexan

Scarlett was eating turnips, I thought.

The radishes didn't agree with her ;}

703 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:10:15pm

re: #682 NYCHardhat

You are a child.

I am a child
I last a while
You can't conceive of the pleasure in my smile

/Neil "Original Moonbat" Young

704 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:10:21pm

re: #695 NYCHardhat

ps2 and my giant inflatable rubber ducky.

What was her name?

705 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:10:37pm

re: #684 Iron Fist

I was dissappointed when Intel didn't make a Pentium 666 mHz. There were so many interesting marketing campaigns that they could have done. Work like hell...

333 Mhz, is a lot of hertz, but 666 Mhz, hurts like hell!

706 callahan23  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:10:56pm

re: #674 Bordm
Ohh, so now I am demoted to a cloakroom attendant.
And that to me by such a valiant gentleman lizard.//////
/ dramatic Shakespeare mode off

707 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:10:57pm

re: #626 Bordm

What are you, the fucking hall monitor?

re: #663 callahan23

No, it's me.
Confusing, heh?

It's me too.

"We are all Spartacus"
/

708 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:11:01pm

re: #704 MandyManners

What was her name?

BWAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

709 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:11:31pm

re: #704 MandyManners

What was her name?

Amanda ;)

710 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:11:47pm

re: #704 MandyManners

What was her name?

JK mandy!

711 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:12:37pm

re: #674 Bordm

Life's a bitch, ain't it.
Feel better after shitting on people?
Takes a real man to waltz in with an avatar like yours and play tough guy.

712 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:12:38pm

Sorry, that email was from "MJBrutus." Just the standard insults.

Here's one that just came in from a Glenn Beck fan:

Hello Charles,

I'm reading posts by your drooling, sycophants and wondering. Do you
actually believe this shit? Do you actually have such a low opinion of
yourself that you NEED this on a daily basis?

"Beck can't hold a candle to Charles." (ohhhhh I think I came in my
pants.)

"Charles i have to say, you are a hero holding the line aginst
crazyness".. translation> (oh my... I just love fascists like you
Charles...if everyone could just be like you and me the world would be
perfect.) I see your knuckle dragging enablers also are not so
smart...i.e. not smart enough to use a spell checker before posting.

Opps, geez I found something that doesn't tow your fascist line.

"I haven't been on this site in a while, but I don't get the anti-Beck
vitriol. What is that all about?" Better ban his guy quick he doesn't
think like you and the other tools on your blog.

Anyway, I've had enough of your excrement for today so I will move on.
Besides more than a few minutes reading posts by you and your slobbering
imbeciles...well I think I may have thrown up a little in my mouth....
woof.. what a horrible taste that leaves.

Have a smiley faced day you enema bag.

M.D.

713 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:12:44pm

re: #709 NYCHardhat

Amanda ;)

I thought it would be Michelle ... Malkin! Malkin! not Obama. :~)

714 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:12:49pm

re: #705 Archimedes

333 Mhz, is a lot of hertz, but 666 Mhz, hurts like hell!

I could just see the commercial with Hendrix in the background singing "I have only one burning desire... Let me stand next to your fire."

715 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:13:01pm
716 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:13:36pm

re: #712 Charles

Sorry, that email was from "MJBrutus." Just the standard insults.

Here's one that just came in from a Glenn Beck fan:

WOW. just WOW

717 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:13:49pm

re: #709 NYCHardhat

Amanda ;)

You reminded me that I also took my Orange beanbag chair made to look like a basketball. Thinking back on it, no one else should ever have sat on that chair, it was the least hygienic seat in the house.

718 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:15:00pm

re: #715 Iron Fist

Damn, but I felt my IQ decrease while I read that...

Neil's a Canadian original generation hippie and a hell of a talent.

719 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:15:30pm

re: #715 Iron Fist

Damn, but I felt my IQ decrease while I read that...

George Burns had a better way of saying it: He was a "kid at heart".

720 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:15:51pm

re: #712 Charles

enema bag?

Not this again?! What is that below or above a douchebag? And no I don't mean anatomically.

721 Mithrax  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:16:18pm

re: #720 robdouth

enema bag?

Not this again?! What is that below or above a douchebag? And no I don't mean anatomically.

Below a douchebag?

CNN Reporter? :P

722 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:16:19pm

re: #712 Charles

Sorry, that email was from "MJBrutus." Just the standard insults.

Here's one that just came in from a Glenn Beck fan:

You were called an enema bag by a colostomy bag.
WTF?
Cheers Charles.

723 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:16:33pm

re: #718 OldLineTexan

Neil's a Canadian original generation hippie and a hell of a talent.

If Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young were an omelet, Neil Young would be the pepper and salt.

724 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:16:42pm

re: #720 robdouth

enema bag?

Not this again?! What is that below or above a douchebag? And no I don't mean anatomically.

The writer is afraid of enemas, as he is prone to swimmer's ear.

/

725 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:16:45pm
726 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:16:55pm

re: #712 Charles

Here's one that just came in from a Glenn Beck fan:

Gee, a few days ago I was just a "lemming minion".
Now I'm a "slobbering imbecile"!

Charles, do we get an increase in our ZioNazi check when we get a promotion?

727 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:17:06pm

Here's one that just came in from a Glenn Beck fan:

Hello Charles,

I'm reading posts by your drooling, sycophants and wondering. Do you
actually believe this shit? Do you actually have such a low opinion of
yourself that you NEED this on a daily basis?

"Beck can't hold a candle to Charles." (ohhhhh I think I came in my
pants.)

"Charles i have to say, you are a hero holding the line aginst
crazyness".. translation> (oh my... I just love fascists like you
Charles...if everyone could just be like you and me the world would be
perfect.) I see your knuckle dragging enablers also are not so
smart...i.e. not smart enough to use a spell checker before posting.

Opps, geez I found something that doesn't tow your fascist line.

"I haven't been on this site in a while, but I don't get the anti-Beck
vitriol. What is that all about?" Better ban his guy quick he doesn't
think like you and the other tools on your blog.

Anyway, I've had enough of your excrement for today so I will move on.
Besides more than a few minutes reading posts by you and your slobbering
imbeciles...well I think I may have thrown up a little in my mouth....
woof.. what a horrible taste that leaves.

Have a smiley faced day you enema bag.

M.D.

Spelling/grammar mistakes in bold.

728 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:17:24pm

re: #723 Salamantis

If Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young were an omelet, Neil Young would be the pepper and salt.

Plus he has his original liver.

729 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:17:29pm

re: #714 robdouth

I could just see the commercial with Hendrix in the background singing "I have only one burning desire... Let me stand next to your fire."

It would be great with a purple haze background.

730 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:17:55pm

OT: Round one of the Stanley Cup Playoffs featuring the classic/familiar matchup of Bruins and Canadiens is already underway.

Go B's....fuck up les bleu, blanc & rouge like I know you guys can.

731 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:18:05pm

re: #687 Charles

Not a chance, and especially not after the email he just sent me.

Oh....well, I'm obviously not privy to sweet love notes the loons send you and all.

I was kinda kidding anyway, even though it did give me an excuse to look at seed catalogs (frustrated gardener).

732 Bloodnok  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:19:04pm

re: #730 Fenway_Nation

OT: Round one of the Stanley Cup Playoffs featuring the classic/familiar matchup of Bruins and Canadiens is already underway.

Go B's....fuck up les bleu, blanc & rouge like I know you guys can.

I'm watching. Great game so far.

733 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:19:22pm
I see your knuckle dragging enablers also are not so
smart...i.e. not smart enough to use a spell checker before posting.

Opps, geez I found something that doesn't tow your fascist line.

Alrighty, then.

734 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:19:25pm

re: #728 OldLineTexan

Plus he has his original liver.

After The Gold Rush remains one of the all time classic albums.

735 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:19:27pm

I see the food purist crowd has arrived.

736 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:19:29pm

re: #712 Charles

Is it good or bad when a douche bag calls you an enema bag?

737 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:19:31pm

I guess I shouldn't be appreciative of unbiased reporting.

738 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:19:36pm

re: #730 Fenway_Nation

OT: Round one of the Stanley Cup Playoffs featuring the classic/familiar matchup of Bruins and Canadiens is already underway.

Go B's....fuck up les bleu, blanc & rouge like I know you guys can.

If that Montreal Canadiens do not win the Cup this year, it'll be the first decade in which they have not won one.

739 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:20:10pm

Gee whiz. The only e-mail l I get is from brokers and people selling fake Rolexes. /

740 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:20:29pm

re: #738 Archimedes

If that Montreal Canadiens do not win the Cup this year, it'll be the first decade in which they have not won one.

that = the!

741 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:20:35pm

re: #727 NYCHardhat

Here's one that just came in from a Glenn Beck fan:

Hello Charles,

I'm reading posts by your drooling, sycophants and wondering. Do you
actually believe this shit? Do you actually have such a low opinion of
yourself that you NEED this on a daily basis?

"Opps, geez I found something that doesn't tow your fascist line.
Spelling/grammar mistakes in bold.

What you aren't down with OPP?

742 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:20:37pm

re: #712 Charles


yowza!

743 SixDegrees  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:20:55pm

re: #736 ArchangelMichael

Is it good or bad when a douche bag calls you an enema bag?

And how does all this relate to butt plugs?

744 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:20:57pm

re: #738 Archimedes

If that Montreal Canadiens do not win the Cup this year, it'll be the first decade in which they have not won one.


Hark! I hear the sound of a thousand tiny violins playing a sad sad tune....

745 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:21:26pm

I pretty much cross off the list any comment that includes "I think I threw up a little in my mouth."

746 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:21:30pm

re: #727 NYCHardhat

You missed the unnecessary comma between drooling and sycophants.

I stopped reading before the fragment, though.

747 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:21:36pm

re: #739 Catttt

Gee whiz. The only e-mail l I get is from brokers and people selling fake Rolexes. /

I do get the occasional bit of hate male from youtube comments, but not often.

748 USBeast  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:21:41pm

re: #739 Catttt

Gee whiz. The only e-mail l I get is from brokers and people selling fake Rolexes. /

You live a sheltered life. Just try exploring an online business opportunity. You will never be lonely.

749 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:22:02pm

re: #744 Fenway_Nation

Hark! I hear the sound of a thousand tiny violins playing a sad sad tune....

I anyone be disturbed if they are all suddenly silenced?

750 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:22:13pm

Heres' some more about the leader of the Constitution Party, who was the subject of another speaker in the vid:

In 2000, however, Baldwin left the Republican Party on grounds that the Bush–Cheney ticket was too liberal. Baldwin has said that many evangelical minds, similarly to ministers in Nazi Germany, have seemingly given Bush "the aura of an American Fuhrer".[7] He considered himself an independent affiliated with the Constitution Party.[3]

At about this time, Baldwin began hosting a local daily one-hour current-events radio program, "Chuck Baldwin Live", which continues today nationwide on the Genesis Communications Network. He writes a daily editorial column carried on its website, on VDare, and in several newspapers. He has also appeared on numerous television shows and radio shows (including "The Political Cesspool",[8] a controversial "conservative populist radio program" representing a "pro-White" philosophy);[9] in churches across the country; and as the keynote speaker for the 50th anniversary of D-Day at Naval Air Station Pensacola.

751 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:22:19pm

re: #743 SixDegrees

And how does all this relate to butt plugs?

don't wanna know myself...I'm done with BPs and I hope others are as well

752 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:22:32pm

re: #744 Fenway_Nation

Hark! I hear the sound of a thousand tiny violins playing a sad sad tune....

Well, it had me teary eyed, okay? :-)

/ I'm a Blues fan anyway.

753 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:22:37pm

re: #735 Thanos

I see the food purist crowd has arrived.

That's not right. I only eat the purist and most natural foods. But I do make sure all my food is up to date on it's vaccinations... or is that controversial...

754 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:22:58pm

re: #745 Catttt

I pretty much cross off the list any comment that includes "I think I threw up a little in my mouth."

Not me, I love Happy Bunny.

755 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:23:17pm

re: #749 CyanSnowHawk

I anyone be disturbed if they are all suddenly silenced?

I wonder if anyone will...

PIMF

756 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:23:27pm

re: #745 Catttt

I pretty much cross off the list any comment that includes "I think I threw up a little in my mouth."

also the knuckle dragger line. It's so Bush era.

757 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:23:40pm

re: #727 NYCHardhat

Here's one that just came in from a Glenn Beck fan:

Hello Charles,

I'm reading posts by your drooling, sycophants and wondering. Do you
actually believe this shit? Do you actually have such a low opinion of
yourself that you NEED this on a daily basis?

"Beck can't hold a candle to Charles." (ohhhhh I think I came in my
pants.)

"Charles i have to say, you are a hero holding the line aginst
crazyness".. translation> (oh my... I just love fascists like you
Charles...if everyone could just be like you and me the world would be
perfect.) I see your knuckle dragging enablers also are not so
smart...i.e. not smart enough to use a spell checker before posting.

Opps, geez I found something that doesn't tow your fascist line.

"I haven't been on this site in a while, but I don't get the anti-Beck
vitriol. What is that all about?" Better ban his guy quick he doesn't
think like you and the other tools on your blog.

Anyway, I've had enough of your excrement for today so I will move on.
Besides more than a few minutes reading posts by you and your slobbering
imbeciles...well I think I may have thrown up a little in my mouth....
woof.. what a horrible taste that leaves.

Have a smiley faced day you enema bag.

M.D.

Spelling/grammar mistakes in bold.

We should give the writer a break, it had to be hard typing that while masturbating to Glenn Beck videos. ;)

758 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:23:55pm

re: #751 albusteve

don't wanna know myself...I'm done with BPs and I hope others are as well

They should be hidden in a dark place and never mentioned again.

759 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:24:08pm

And now for something completely different:

There's this funeral procession with a hearse being followed by a man and his dog
Immediately behind is another hearse followed by a single file of men stretching into the distance.
A passerby walks up to the man with the dog and remarks on the unusual funeral procession and asks the circumstances. The man with the dog replies that the lead hearse contains his wife who was attacked and killed by the dog.
The questioner mumbles his condolences and then asks about the second hearse.
The man replies that it contains his mother in law who was also attacked and killed by the dog.
The questioner immediately asks where he can get a dog like that and the first man throws a thumb over his shoulder and tells him.."Get in line"

Badaboom.

My apologies to all the lady lizards here. I love my wife and in-laws but I couldn't resist......
*ducks, waiting for the down-dings*

760 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:24:10pm

re: #752 Archimedes

Well, it had me teary eyed, okay? :-)

/ I'm a Blues fan anyway.

So just by the name alone, you should be used to being on the recieving end of bad news ;)

761 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:24:11pm

re: #753 robdouth

That's not right. I only eat the purist and most natural foods. But I do make sure all my food is up to date on it's vaccinations... or is that controversial...

smoked Beef-O-Roni....mmmmm...I use the exhaust from my old Farmall

762 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:24:13pm

Steak-head is on O'Riley.

763 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:24:16pm

re: #745 Catttt

I pretty much cross off the list any comment that includes "I think I threw up a little in my mouth."

Not me, I love Happy Bunny.

/trying again

764 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:24:16pm

re: #712 Charles

Sorry, that email was from "MJBrutus." Just the standard insults.

Here's one that just came in from a Glenn Beck fan:

At least he didn't call us baby eaters. But I'm still going to have to break out the clue bat. Bonk!

765 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:24:28pm

re: #360 Truck Monkey

Martin Luther Beck?

At least he didn't cry.
/

That's the kicker in Glenn Beck's recent outburst. He's using Charles as a vehicle to compare himself to Martin Luther King.

Glenn Beck as Martin Luther King: classic case of insanity.

766 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:24:54pm

re: #758 CyanSnowHawk

They should be hidden in a dark place and never mentioned again.

what?...oh

767 researchok  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:25:19pm

re: #712 Charles

Glenn Beck is not a punk. Glenn Beck is a putz.

Only in America can a putz make prime time.

768 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:25:28pm

Two OT thoughts:

1. If Susan Boyle makes an album, I'm buying it.

2. I thought about this because of the protests yesterday. You know that awful chant: "So-and-so, you can't hide, we charge you with genocide."

Has that ever been said in a protest against someone who actually was suspected of genocide? You know, actual genocide, like whole villages disappearing. I just have a feeling that a protest against them would involve face masks and molotov cocktails, not stunts, drum circles, and silly rhyming slogans.

(Not advocating violence, just observing)

769 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:25:28pm

re: #757 DEZes

We should give the writer a break, it had to be hard typing that while masturbating to Glenn Beck videos. ;)

I would, but he insulted us for not using spell check.

770 jaunte  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:25:39pm

I dragged the knuckles and the knucks won.

771 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:25:44pm

re: #753 robdouth

That's not right. I only eat the purist and most natural foods. But I do make sure all my food is up to date on it's vaccinations... or is that controversial...

just as long as you stay away from ObsantobidenhitlerFema you should be ok

///////

772 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:25:45pm
773 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:26:04pm

re: #767 researchok

Glenn Beck is not a punk. Glenn Beck is a putz.

Only in America can a putz make prime time.

not the old fleshy helm thread...groan

774 brookly red  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:26:12pm

re: #758 CyanSnowHawk

They should be hidden in a dark place and never mentioned again.

*sigh* they will be back...

775 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:26:17pm

I've updated the post with the video, and a few special comments intended for Beck to read.

776 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:26:21pm

Neil Young has been many things; a member of one of the seminal rock bands of all time (CSN&Y), a country balladeer and folk rock troubaadour, a harbinger of the garage rock movement, and a musical purist who had no problem whatsoever telling the corporate ad machine to stuff it sideways where the sun don't shine:

Youtube Video
777 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:26:22pm

re: #712 Charles

Sorry, that email was from "MJBrutus." Just the standard insults.

Here's one that just came in from a Glenn Beck fan:

We are just going to be so devastated in not having this person's superior intellect to guide us on the "right" path....I'm just cut to the quick by this writer's sharp rebuke.

///

778 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:26:34pm

re: #760 Fenway_Nation

So just by the name alone, you should be used to being on the recieving end of bad news ;)

Quite true, although for a stretch of 18 or so years they made the playoffs every year. The longest streak in the major sports at the time. They just never won the big one.

The Cardinal baseball team, otoh ...

779 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:27:24pm

re: #747 Archimedes

I do get the occasional bit of hate male from youtube comments, but not often.

My youtube comments range from "cool vid, dude!" to "I love this song!" I received thoughtful disagreement on my Obama vids, rather than emotional rants, and I replied to all of them.

I did get one European who said you can't like Samael and vote Republican (I used Jupiterian Vibe as the music on "Obama Dream - or Nightmare?") Oddly enough, she is wrong about that.

780 USBeast  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:27:31pm

re: #767 researchok

Glenn Beck is not a punk. Glenn Beck is a putz.

Only in America can a putz make prime time.

There are prime time putzes all over the planet. It's real schmucks like Hitler that worry me.

781 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:28:15pm

re: #769 NYCHardhat

I would, but he insulted us for not using spell check.

I wont shake hands with the 3 toed sloth either. ;)

782 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:28:21pm

re: #776 Salamantis

Neil Young has been many things; a member of one of the seminal rock bands of all time (CSN&Y), a country balladeer and folk rock troubaadour, a harbinger of the garage rock movement, and a musical purist who had no problem whatsoever telling the corporate ad machine to stuff it sideways where the sun don't shine:


[Video]

heh...I wonder where he got that idea from?...nice tho

783 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:28:25pm

re: #775 Charles

I've updated the post with the video, and a few special comments intended for Beck to read.

Way to "jazz" up the post. Anybody, hello? **Crickets** Don't forget to tip your waittress.

784 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:29:09pm

Burpee heirloom seeds. Maybe I'll try some summer 2010 when I have dirt to play in again.

sniffle

[Link: www.burpee.com...]

785 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:29:54pm

re: #777 talon_262

We are just going to be so devastated in not having this person's superior intellect to guide us on the "right" path....I'm just cut to the quick by this writer's sharp rebuke.

///

Cheer up ... we have SpaceJesus to watch over us.

///

786 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:29:54pm

Just did a search at Federal Election Commission (FEC) for any political contribution from Glenn Beck.

Total policitcal contributions by Glenn Beck:

$0.00

Perhaps he's waiting for a Bircher to run for office.

787 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:30:15pm

re: #745 Catttt

I pretty much cross off the list any comment that includes "I think I threw up a little in my mouth."

Puke in My Mouth

Youtube Video

Jizz In My Pants

Youtube Video
788 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:31:00pm

re: #783 robdouth

Way to "jazz" up the post. Anybody, hello? **Crickets** Don't forget to tip your waittress.


Crickets?.....


Youtube Video
789 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:31:49pm

Sorry everyone if I jizzed in my pants.

///////////////////////////////////////

790 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:32:50pm

re: #789 NYCHardhat

Sorry everyone if I jizzed in my pants.

///////////////////////////////////////

You feeling spunky now?

791 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:33:25pm
792 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:33:44pm

re: #789 NYCHardhat

Memories of your inflatable rubber duckie?

793 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:34:07pm

re: #791 Iron Fist

TMI, man, way TMI

It was such a joke!

794 MacGregor  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:34:09pm

re: #775 Charles

Just saw it - Thanks. He's a liar.

795 Egregious Philbin  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:34:22pm

Glen Beck, Giant Douche.

Hey Glen, Xenu is waiting for you on planet Kolob.

796 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:34:31pm

re: #792 BlueCanuck

I don't deserve this abuse!
///

797 ArmyWife  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:35:03pm

Glen Beck, huh? I think his whole psychotic ranting is a well thought out act. It's working - I never heard of this guy a mere few months ago, now his mug and name are everywhere. I would suggest if no attention is paid, the schtick ends and he goes away. On the other hand, I may be viewing things through my simplistic "good guys always win" colored glasses.

798 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:35:05pm

And now for a man with two buttocks:

Sign in a National Park
Due to the increased hiking activity and the increased chance of encounters with bears the following cautions are advised:

1) Place multiple bells on your clothing in order to warn bears of your approach and prevent surprising them which may result in an attack.

2) It is advised that hiker's carry some of the hand-held Pepper Sprays to use in event of a bear encounter.

3) Always be alert for signs of bear activity. Among those signs are bear feces:
a) Brown bear feces can be identified by containing berry remnants and squirrel fur.
b) Grizzly bear shit can be identified by remnants of bells and the emitting of a strong peppery odor.

799 Catttt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:35:26pm

re: #787 Salamantis

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Youtube Video
800 researchok  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:35:33pm

re: #780 USBeast

You're right.

Beck just gets under my skin more than the others.

Henceforth he shall referred to as megaputz.

801 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:35:48pm

re: #779 Catttt

My youtube comments range from "cool vid, dude!" to "I love this song!" I received thoughtful disagreement on my Obama vids, rather than emotional rants, and I replied to all of them.

I did get one European who said you can't like Samael and vote Republican (I used Jupiterian Vibe as the music on "Obama Dream - or Nightmare?") Oddly enough, she is wrong about that.

I had a back and forth with an Obama fan before the election. He was dripping with hatred telling me how bad it was going to be for me when Obama got elected. Seriously, his whole attitude was that somehow those who are against Obama would be dealt with harshly by the government. Strange, but you can tell when someone is serious.

I got into a long detailed conversation with another Obama supporter, who was heavily into law and heavily affected by university politics. He was pushing postmodernism. He was well educated, but so full of absurd conspiracy theories that it was a massive task to try to ground him in reality, which I ultimately gave up on anyway. When discussing things with people like that I realize how unreachable some people are. I mean, sure, I might be able to reach him, but I'd have to be around him every day.

Most of by conversations on youtube, however, are of the sort you've had, verry friendly and on non-political subjects.

802 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:35:51pm

re: #225 Charles

Since we now have LGF readers/sleepers showing up making excuses for Ron Paul, here's an article that bears re-posting: Angry White Man - the bigoted past of Ron Paul.

Holy shit. That's all I can say.

803 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:35:57pm

re: #797 ArmyWife

No. You are right. We need to dismiss him like the child he is.

804 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:36:24pm

Meanwhile all of the Glenn Beck minions are screaming to themselves:

"Burn the blogs!"

//

805 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:37:00pm
806 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:37:05pm

re: #712 Charles

There has to be a name for that particular literary style...

807 ClosetConservative  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:37:05pm

My cable TV has been conked out since early January, and I really don't care. The airwaves are chock-full of kooks, and conservatism's leading lights aren't on TV anyways because they're not sensational enough. I wouldn't presume to advise Charles on how to run his blog, but I know that my blog devotes little attention to dime-a-dozen nuts paid to screech into a camera simply because it wouldn't be fair to parody one of them while thousands of others languish unnoticed on local news channels. Gotta spread the ridicule! Besides, my priorities (and the country's, I hope) are focused on more weights matters than overpaid entertainers on the big screen, no matter what they may do to the Republican Party.

Like this mindblowing deficit.

I've never borrowed more than 20 dollars from anybody, but I've got a $36,532.73 share of the national debt. Beck's inane machinations are a distraction.

808 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:37:51pm

re: #800 researchok

You're right.

Beck just gets under my skin more than the others.

Henceforth he shall referred to as megaputz.

The megaputz died out after the last round of Global Warming.

809 albusteve  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:38:18pm

'Not Fade Away' is an American treasure written by Buddy Holly...recorded numerous times in his tribute....jus sayin Buddy holly is a far more important personality than Glenn what's his name

810 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:38:28pm

re: #804 Gus 802

Meanwhile all of the Glenn Beck minions are screaming to themselves:

"Burn the blogs!"

//


Only you can prevent Internet fires
-Smokey the Bear

811 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:38:34pm

re: #805 Iron Fist

The wisdom of an Alaskan Hunting Guide

LOL. I used to say the same thing about swimming in the ocean. i don't have to outswim the shark. I only have to outswim you.......

GMTA.

812 razorbacker  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:39:10pm

Captured Somali pirate to face trial in New York

Since the hostage standoff on the high seas ended Sunday, US authorities have been examining details of the case, particularly Wal-i-Musi's age.

Initially, he was thought to have been between 16 years and 20 years of age, but Robert Gates, the defence secretary, later said all four of the pirates involved were between ages 17 and 19.

If he is under 18, federal prosecutors must take a number of additional steps to justify charging him in federal court.

I don't see what possibly could go wrong, here.

813 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:39:24pm

re: #810 robdouth

Only you can prevent Internet fires
-Smokey the Bear

//Rimshot

814 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:39:31pm

re: #787 Salamantis

Puke in My Mouth

[Video]

The Lonely Island (Jizz In My Pants) has some pretty funny stuff...I particularly like I'm On A Boat and Like A Boss.

815 USBeast  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:39:34pm

re: #789 NYCHardhat

Sorry everyone if I jizzed in my pants.

///////////////////////////////////////

Why? They aren't my pants. You have a perfect right to jizz in your pants. They are yours, after all. This is America. Now, if you jizzed in my pants, it would be a different story. How did you get a hold of my pants? I can guarantee you could not have jizzed in my pants while I was in them. This is obviously a matter for the police and they will be called...unless you are willing to make monetary restitution...

816 jaunte  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:39:41pm

In that video, Beck addresses only the woman saying "burn the books" and doesn't mention any of the other marginal ideas discussed.

817 DEZes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:39:46pm

Well, its been a blast watching the melt downs, but I must retire.
Have a great one fellow lizards.

818 NYCHardhat  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:40:11pm

re: #817 DEZes

Well, its been a blast watching the melt downs, but I must retire.
Have a great one fellow lizards.

peace broseph

819 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:40:23pm

re: #806 The Shadow Do

There has to be a name for that particular literary style...

I don't know the style but I believe the voice is 3rd person asshatent?

820 jcm  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:40:34pm

re: #805 Iron Fist

821 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:40:53pm

re: #812 razorbacker

Captured Somali pirate to face trial in New York


I don't see what possibly could go wrong, here.

Hey, if he beats the rap, maybe he can become a mascot for that Pittsburgh baseball team.......their name escapes me at the moment......
/

822 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:40:57pm

re: #816 jaunte

In that video, Beck addresses only the woman saying "burn the books" and doesn't mention any of the other marginal ideas discussed.

Good point.

823 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:41:23pm

re: #817 DEZes

Well, its been a blast watching the melt downs, but I must retire.
Have a great one fellow lizards.

See ya Dez....
:)

824 jcm  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:42:10pm

re: #820 jcm
whaa happened?

re: #798 LGoPs

I don't have to be able to outrun the bear. I just have to be able to outrun you.

The wisdom of an Alaskan Hunting Guide

Stand your ground!

825 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:42:21pm

re: #821 LGoPs

Hey, if he beats the rap, maybe he can become a mascot for that Pittsburgh baseball team.......their name escapes me at the moment......
/

From what I understand he was a failed minor league 2nd baseman before turning to piracy, so it could work out.

826 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:42:24pm
827 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:42:25pm

re: #786 Gus 802

Yeah, I've said before that I heard him on the radio one day in October sounding very proud of himself for "figuring out" that McCain = Obama or something. I used to flip through all the radio stations while driving around, but that little blurb just stuck with me. I never sought out his show before that, but thereafter I purposely shut him off at the first sound of his voice.

I've never seen him on TV, and can't say I'm sorry about that.

828 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:42:25pm

re: #807 ClosetConservative

Beck's inane machinations are a distraction.

Why is it that everyone seems to think that we aren't capable of doing more than one thing at a time.

We can bitch about wackos on the right making us look like idiots *and* criticize the Obama plan to destroy the American economy at the same time with no problem.

829 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:42:46pm

re: #802 Fat Jolly Penguin

That could explain why some of my lib family members who knew there was no way in hell I was gonna vote Democrat were lobbying for me to vote for Ron Paul last year. I initailly thought it was them encouraging me to throw away my vote a-la Ross Perot or Ralph Nader, but they probably suspected there was something along these lines in Paul's background and they could tut-tut me further down the line for voting for such a fringe, extremist candidate.

All the foreign policiy decisions of the hard-left wrapped up in a bigoted paleocon package that makes Pat Buchannan look like a warm and fuzzy little bunny. What's not to love!?

830 astronmr20  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:43:59pm

re: #49 danrudy

I have heard Beck on the radio and admittedly have not seen his show on fox (although I have seen it on prior channel).
Beck can be funny, insightful and also push the envelope.
He can also be hysterical and a little like "chicken little". But, I generally find him entertaining.
I haven't been following the Beck issue close enough on these boards. What has he done that has gotten him in the outhouse?
With so many Olbermans and Maddows and Matthews polluting the airways I see Becks role as the "anti-matter" to the others folks who feel it "just doesn't matter"

He was good on the radio back when I listened to him a few years ago. Now he's off his rocker.

831 brookly red  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:44:00pm

re: #821 LGoPs

Hey, if he beats the rap, maybe he can become a mascot for that Pittsburgh baseball team.......their name escapes me at the moment......
/

/more likley a security guard on the Staten Island Ferry...

832 USBeast  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:44:17pm

re: #826 4k78

Okay, honest question here, who is an acceptable conservative here? Whether it is an elected official or pundit or whoever, who is it? Beck is now persona non grata. Recently I saw negative comments about Michelle Malkin and Hot Air. I know that Jindal and Palin aren't acceptable either. Also Rush and I'm sure Hannity. Did I miss anyone? Personally, I like aspects of all the above people. I'll never agree 100% with anyone. It just seems like there's a lot of "eating of our own" here. My 2¢.

That is an excellent question. I've been wondering about that myself.

833 ArmyWife  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:44:44pm

re: #712 Charles

Dear Mr./Ms. Brutus:

Please note the phrase is "toe the line" not "tow the line". We thank you for getting it correct in future emails describing the low IQ of LGF readers. We would be particularly grateful that you get this correct in those communiques in which you critique the spelling of others.

Have a most pleasant afternoon.

Very Truly Yours,

AW

834 Hawaii69  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:45:18pm

I don't know if he's a punk.

Though, I recently came across a facebook
group called Glenn Beck is a Complete
Douchebag

I think that covers it a little better.

835 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:46:08pm

Beck's attack on you falls flat, Charles. And he proceeds on an "enemy of my enemy should be my friend" theory. You hurt his feelings! Waaaah! ;-)

836 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:46:09pm

re: #826 4k78

Okay, honest question here, who is an acceptable conservative here? Whether it is an elected official or pundit or whoever, who is it? Beck is now persona non grata. Recently I saw negative comments about Michelle Malkin and Hot Air. I know that Jindal and Palin aren't acceptable either. Also Rush and I'm sure Hannity. Did I miss anyone? Personally, I like aspects of all the above people. I'll never agree 100% with anyone. It just seems like there's a lot of "eating of our own" here. My 2¢.

As far as pundits go, I like Michelle Malkin. I like Palin. Jindal has jumped the shark. I liked Rush until his bit yesterday about Obama ordering "black Muslim teenagers" shot dead. Hannity has always sucked, but that's just my opinion, and Skeletor never helped, IMO.

837 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:46:21pm

re: #826 4k78

Okay, honest question here, who is an acceptable conservative here? Whether it is an elected official or pundit or whoever, who is it? Beck is now persona non grata. Recently I saw negative comments about Michelle Malkin and Hot Air. I know that Jindal and Palin aren't acceptable either. Also Rush and I'm sure Hannity. Did I miss anyone? Personally, I like aspects of all the above people. I'll never agree 100% with anyone. It just seems like there's a lot of "eating of our own" here. My 2¢.

If I may, it sounds like you are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. One thing that I believe makes conservativism a more honest movement is it's willingness to call fellow proponents out on the carpet when they step in it. We don't go along to get along. It's not about ideological purity, or any other liberal bugaboo that tries to cast the movement as elitist. It's about being genuinely concerned about issues, so if Jindal or Palin pushes creationism, they will be called out for it. It doesn't mean they aren't still good people, just that there is a point of disagreement. The same holds true for any conservative, because unlike Democrats and liberals with their hero-worship of Clinton and Obama, conservativism is bigger than any one person.

838 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:46:24pm

re: #834 Hawaii69

Although there's truth in the title I bet 100% of the members are raving lefty moonbats.

839 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:46:48pm

re: #801 Archimedes

I had a back and forth with an Obama fan before the election. He was dripping with hatred telling me how bad it was going to be for me when Obama got elected. Seriously, his whole attitude was that somehow those who are against Obama would be dealt with harshly by the government. Strange, but you can tell when someone is serious.

Btw, just to give you an idea, here is one of the things that youtube poster sent to me on October 13:


Re: Re: Re: Re: i dont know where you get your information from
rush once told a black caller to "take that bone out of your nose"

eff you and all your racist friends

on november 5, we will be forming education squads...picking up you and all yout buddies and shipping you to gitmo

cya

He comes up with this sort of garbage out of the blue. I told him where he can stick it, but what a world view!

840 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:47:21pm

re: #837 robdouth

To hell with your dirty baby!

/

841 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:47:28pm
842 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:47:51pm
...well I think I may have thrown up a little in my mouth...

What a dumbass.

It's, "threw up in my mouth, a little..." That's what makes the line funny.

843 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:48:22pm

re: #836 OldLineTexan

As far as pundits go, I like Michelle Malkin. I like Palin. Jindal has jumped the shark. I liked Rush until his bit yesterday about Obama ordering "black Muslim teenagers" shot dead. Hannity has always sucked, but that's just my opinion, and Skeletor never helped, IMO.

I usually like the first 5 minutes of Hannity and then the remaining 2:55 becomes an overview of the first 5 minutes. He's more redundant than 12 hours of sportscenter watched back to back.

844 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:49:04pm

re: #842 Noam Sayin'

Stick with the classic "barf", or even "regurgitate". "Tossed cookies" is Brooklyn slang.

845 rhino2  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:50:26pm

re: #841 Iron Fist

If only it was her running

846 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:51:12pm

re: #819 robdouth

I don't know the style but I believe the voice is 3rd person asshatent?

Yes, yes but is it nouveau or pre-modern I am left to wonder.

847 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:51:19pm
848 Florida Lady  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:51:39pm

re: #826 4k78

Okay, honest question here, who is an acceptable conservative here? Whether it is an elected official or pundit or whoever, who is it? Beck is now persona non grata. Recently I saw negative comments about Michelle Malkin and Hot Air. I know that Jindal and Palin aren't acceptable either. Also Rush and I'm sure Hannity. Did I miss anyone? Personally, I like aspects of all the above people. I'll never agree 100% with anyone. It just seems like there's a lot of "eating of our own" here. My 2¢.


I was just thinking the same thing. Is there anyone out there we can get behind so we can take back Congress in 2010 from the lunatics who now hold it hostage?

849 Emphasis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:54:43pm

I don't have any problem with Beck, he is sounding an alarm and trying to present the reasons why he is alarmed. If you don't agree with his comments and the reasons he puts forth to back them, fine, but express your points at least in as intelligent manners as he does. That should not be difficult for you all, after all he is just a nut job..right?

850 rhino2  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:55:46pm

re: #849 Emphasis

Is that to say we should get on Fox News and rant and rave about him, before breaking down into tears about it?

/Are you sure you want us to argue the way he does?

851 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:55:59pm

re: #836 OldLineTexan

As far as pundits go, I like Michelle Malkin. I like Palin. Jindal has jumped the shark. I liked Rush until his bit yesterday about Obama ordering "black Muslim teenagers" shot dead. Hannity has always sucked, but that's just my opinion, and Skeletor never helped, IMO.

I'm also not a big fan of Lou Dobbs.

852 Cato the Elder  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:58:11pm

Hmm.

"You have a right to be able to afford a gun."

So let me get this straight: When people talk about a "right" to be able to afford healthcare, that's scary, scary socialized medicine, and we can't have that, because...because...it's scary.

But if you can't afford cancer treatments, or even morphine to ease the pain - and not too much of that, either, because...because...you might become a scary, scary drug addict - well, take comfort! You have a right to an affordable gun to blow yourself away with.

Have I got that right?

(For the record: I own plenty of guns, I'm not a gun hater, and you betcha, I believe every American has a right to the best possible health care, no matter what his/her income. What's good enough for Congress is good enough for everybody.)

853 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:59:02pm

re: #849 Emphasis

Nirther.

854 jaunte  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 5:59:50pm

re: #852 Cato the Elder

That did stick out as an odd way to put it; I suppose he was talking about being opposed to a punitive tax imposed on guns or ammunition, but if so, he should have said that.

855 NY Nana  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:00:19pm

re: #775 Charles

/Have you ever considered that Beck might be bi-polar? Or that his hemorrhoids may be bothering him again?

Youtube Video
856 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:03:16pm

re: #826 4k78

Okay, honest question here, who is an acceptable conservative here? Whether it is an elected official or pundit or whoever, who is it? Beck is now persona non grata. Recently I saw negative comments about Michelle Malkin and Hot Air. I know that Jindal and Palin aren't acceptable either. Also Rush and I'm sure Hannity. Did I miss anyone? Personally, I like aspects of all the above people. I'll never agree 100% with anyone. It just seems like there's a lot of "eating of our own" here. My 2¢.

Cool. If you want to ally yourself with Ron Paul supporters, the John Birch Society, and creationists, Glenn Beck is your man.

857 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:03:42pm

re: #836 OldLineTexan

As far as pundits go, I like Michelle Malkin. I like Palin. Jindal has jumped the shark. I liked Rush until his bit yesterday about Obama ordering "black Muslim teenagers" shot dead. Hannity has always sucked, but that's just my opinion, and Skeletor never helped, IMO.

Limbaugh said that? Aargh.

Malkin was just another "pure conservative" who hates John McCain and bashed him up until election day. I've got no use for her either.

858 Archimedes  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:05:40pm

re: #847 Iron Fist

I always find it amusing the kind of shit people are willing to spew when they know that there will be no real consequences. And the more they drink, the more they believe that there will be no consequences. It can be entertaining :-)

It was amusing.

859 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:09:41pm

re: #848 Florida Lady

I was just thinking the same thing. Is there anyone out there we can get behind so we can take back Congress in 2010 from the lunatics who now hold it hostage?

Christie Todd Whitman and Jack Danforth have a group that looks interesting.

[Link: www.republican-leadership.com...]

860 robdouth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:10:25pm

re: #857 funky chicken

Limbaugh said that? Aargh.

Malkin was just another "pure conservative" who hates John McCain and bashed him up until election day. I've got no use for her either.

I think this should all go to show that it's silly when the left tries to call the right sheep. They can't seem to agree on anything, but the left can unit behind Obama because he doesn't stand for anything technically. Who's the sheep now. Everyone's with me right. Ha, almost gotcha.

861 Spartacus50  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:12:13pm

Glenn Beck doesn't have a throbbing memo. Advantage: Charles

862 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:12:17pm

re: #841 Iron Fist

Personally, I am still a big Palin fan. There's a reason that the Left are working so hard to demonize her, and it isn't because they think she'll be easy to beat in 2012. She may not be the perfect candidate, but she was the best that was running this past election.

I'm with you.

863 born conservative  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:12:53pm

Hello all,

Who are the perfect pundits and politicians we should all be listening to?

864 littlebenny  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:13:16pm

Beck was just one of the reasons I stopped looking at Fox News as a counter-balance to CNN and the MSM. Not the only one, but definitely the sort of guy that makes me say:

"Yep...glad I don't tune into that crap anymore"

I have no loyalties to news channels or journalists; instead, I surf, surf and surf some more (Internet variety, not Pacific Ocean), and rely on fellow LGF'ers and other sane people to help me sort it all out.

865 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:13:58pm

Interesting blog post about Arlen Specter at the Whitman-Danforth group:

Specter knows that this dance he does is an irritant to GOP leaders, and he has been careful not to poke his finger in their eyes too often. On balance, he is still more loyal than disloyal. Sometimes he strays at first, only to run back home just in time. Last month Specter surprised everyone when he dropped his support for "card check," the controversial labor bill that would make it easier for workers to unionize. Most Republicans strongly oppose it, making Specter's vote critical to Democrats.
"He was a goddam cosponsor!" a Democratic strategist seethed to NEWSWEEK. (He asked not to be named slamming the senator.) Specter says he felt the bill would hurt businesses already burdened by the recession. Strategists from both parties saw the flip-flop as a calculated move to shore up his standing with Republican voters—and donors—after abandoning them on the stimulus vote.
This is the trouble for Republicans and Democrats who want Specter's blessing: there's no telling how he will use his swing vote. The White House is trying to win him over. Specter has "the rarest of all combinations," Joe Biden said in a recent speech in Pennsylvania. "It's the profound intellect to comprehend what is most important for the country, and the willingness … to risk your career for it."
Republicans can't quite muster Bidenesque levels of obsequiousness when it comes to Specter, but they try. "I'm very happy to have Arlen Specter as a colleague," says GOP leader Mitch McConnell. "He is almost always there when I need him." Others are less diplomatic. "I certainly don't have any comment about him," John McCain said with a huff when a NEWSWEEK reporter asked for his thoughts on Specter last week.
Specter can handle the wrath of his colleagues. The greater danger is that he winds up on the wrong side of the voters. His former Republican challenger, Pat Toomey, is raising money for a rematch next year. State party officials aren't thrilled with Specter, but worry he's the only thing keeping the seat from going to a Democrat. Republicans are still very angry about the stimulus vote, and Toomey, a fiscal conservative, will use it against him. "If it costs me my seat, I'm prepared to eat it," Specter says. Does that really concern him? "Of course it does," he says, his impatience rising. "What do you think I am, a mo-ron?" Hardly. Call Arlen Specter what you will (everyone else does), but you certainly can't call him that.

I'm not sure who wrote it, but it's a pretty good analysis of the PA GOP senate primary race.

866 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:17:34pm
867 sandspur  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:18:12pm

re: #859 funky chicken

Christie Todd Whitman and Jack Danforth have a group that looks interesting.

[Link: www.republican-leadership.com...]

God save me from ever having Christie Whitman in a leadership position again.
She's the primary reason NJ has had a Dem Gov for the last umpteen years.

868 LGoPs  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:18:17pm

re: #865 funky chicken

"If it costs me my seat, I'm prepared to eat it," Specter says. Does that really concern him? "Of course it does," he says, his impatience rising. "What do you think I am, a mo-ron?"

Ummmm, let me see how I can say this..............Fuck yes, I do think you are a moron......
*Looking for how I can send Toomey money*

869 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:19:10pm

Here they come again.

870 Florida Lady  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:23:43pm

re: #859 funky chicken

Christie Todd Whitman and Jack Danforth have a group that looks interesting.

[Link: www.republican-leadership.com...]


I can't stand CTW. Jack Danforth? Meh

Rudy or Mitt come to mind . . . and maybe Mark Sanford.

871 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:23:47pm

re: #868 LGoPs

Toomey is probably more socially conservative than I, but I'd probably support him over Specter. It's really time for Arlen to retire, IMHO.

872 Florida Lady  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:25:50pm

re: #871 funky chicken

Toomey is probably more socially conservative than I, but I'd probably support him over Specter. It's really time for Arlen to retire, IMHO.


Bingo! We can blame him, along with the Maine loonies, for the porkulus.

873 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:25:56pm

re: #866 4k78

So, who are the acceptable conservatives? This is an honest question.

Charles Krauthammer and Victor Davis Hanson, to name two off the top of my head.

874 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:26:32pm

re: #867 sandspur

God save me from ever having Christie Whitman in a leadership position again.
She's the primary reason NJ has had a Dem Gov for the last umpteen years.

She bailed to work for GWB, but what did she do to make for a dem gov?

875 Spartacus50  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:27:20pm

re: #863 born conservative

Hello all,

Who are the perfect pundits and politicians we should all be listening to?

Listen to yourself. You're not obligated to listen to anyone or take political direction from pundits. With Beck and the rest, they're simply full of shit

876 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:28:07pm
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RLC-PAC members consider themselves True Conservative Republicans. Republicans who believe that our elected officials have a responsibility to their constituents to spend their money wisely. We believe that government should have a limited role in Americans' personal lives. And we believe in a strong national defense.

The Republican Leadership Council PAC or RLC-PAC is a political action committee dedicated to supporting fiscally conservative, socially inclusive Republican candidates at all levels of government. Governor Whitman also created a 527 to advance the issues that help define Real Conservative members of the Republican Party.

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Sounds good to me. Limited government means limited government.

But your mileage may vary.

I lived in NJ when CTW was governor, and she did a pretty good job in a liberal state, somewhat like Romney did in Massachusetts. But everybody is entitled to their opinion, of course.

[Link: www.republican-leadership.com...]

877 Code Red 21  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:28:46pm

Glen just has too much feminine energy for me...he cries more than I do and I'm female. Man-up Glen

878 littlebenny  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:29:34pm

re: #863 born conservative

Hello all,

Who are the perfect pundits and politicians we should all be listening to?

My 2 cents is that we should end the addiction to the "pundits" and "personalities" and focus on the facts and what can fairly be called "reason." I don't want to be a fan of anyone; I want to know where to turn to for a fresh look at the so-called news and what's really important to us. I need no NYTimes best-selling or Oprah-approved authors to tell me what to think, nor do I need a TV talking head to become fixated on. That's the trap - people become "defenders" of O'Reilly/Jon Stewart/Beck/Anderson Cooper/etc... and lose all focus and perspective. Group think at it's worst.

879 Florida Lady  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:29:36pm

re: #873 Charles

Charles Krauthammer and Victor Davis Hanson, to name two off the top of my head.


I like them both. But would they run for office?

880 Shanimal1918  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:29:41pm

Glenn Beck, what a loser. I've never payed much attention to him before, but watching this video is all I need to see.

Here we go Bruins Here we go!

881 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:31:34pm

re: #866 4k78

How am I doing that? He's not my man. I simply agree with him on some of his beliefs. I don't give a hoot about Ron Paul, John Birch or creationists. Those issues aren't a big deal for me. Creationism ranks very low on my worry scale.

So, who are the acceptable conservatives? This is an honest question.

I voted for McCain, but I initially supported Giuliani, and I would have voted for Romney had he been the candidate. Romney certainly is more qualified to manage the US financial and economic situation than any other politician out there. Palin might be okay in the future (while personally fundamentalist, she separated the personal from the political, and governed Alaska according to mainly libertarian (small l) fisc-con principles), but she definitely needs some foreign policy seasoning. Jindal is most definitely out, after signing a Disco Institute crafted stealth creationist miseducation bill into law in Louisiana. I continue to admire Liebermans' personal integrity and his GWOT stance, and the fact that he's not a socon is, for me, not a bug but a feature. I'm hoping that Petraeus turns out to be a Republican, but I could vote for him even if he were a Democrat. He has certainly proven himself capable of innovation and creativity, and has shown that he possesses the energy, will, and inspirational qualities to persuade people to get difficult things done, and to tell them the right way to do them.

882 Shanimal1918  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:34:32pm

re: #866 4k78

I don't give a hoot about Ron Paul, John Birch or creationists. Those issues aren't a big deal for me. Creationism ranks very low on my worry scale.

So, who are the acceptable conservatives? This is an honest question.

As I've learned at LGF, it's not so important if these issues are important to you or not. The msm and left use this issue to alienate voters by making it a big issue. That's why it's become a more important issue to me.

An acceptable conservative (for my eyes anyway) is Dana Perino.

883 Code Red 21  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:34:39pm

re: #877 Code Red 21

Glen just has too much feminine energy for me...he cries more than I do and I'm female. Man-up Glen


Plus I think he's an f'ing loon.

884 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:37:50pm

re: #873 Charles

Charles Krauthammer and Victor Davis Hanson, to name two off the top of my head.

Is VDH still a registered democrat? I like him quite a bit also. His articles about the destruction of CA over the last couple of decades are kinda depressing, but seem on the mark.

885 danrudy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:40:47pm

re: #866 4k78

How am I doing that? He's not my man. I simply agree with him on some of his beliefs. I don't give a hoot about Ron Paul, John Birch or creationists. Those issues aren't a big deal for me. Creationism ranks very low on my worry scale.

So, who are the acceptable conservatives? This is an honest question.

I agree with you....
The only person I am ever going to agree 100% with is the very handsome guy in the mirror.
Seems that to many good folks becoming persona non grata

886 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:43:17pm

And c'mon. This is funny:

Republicans can't quite muster Bidenesque levels of obsequiousness when it comes to Specter, but they try.

That doesn't sound like Jack Danforth (who was my Senator when I was growing up in MO). Who knows if Whitman wrote it, but somebody in a leadership position in their organization gave it the green light to be on the front page...

887 danrudy  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:44:14pm

re: #873 Charles

Charles Krauthammer and Victor Davis Hanson, to name two off the top of my head.

those are good picks

888 Florida Lady  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:47:00pm

re: #887 danrudy

those are good picks


Zell Miller!

/remembering the spitball comment from the '04 GOP convention.

889 fat.elvis  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:48:27pm

Everything about Beck is simultaneously insulting to my intelligence and sense of humor. It's quite a remarkable feat I will give him that.

890 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 6:49:48pm

I don't care to watch the Beck video. Who is the guy with the glasses?

891 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:01:37pm
892 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:03:49pm

Bye now. Take care.

893 sandspur  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:03:56pm

re: #874 unrealizedviewpoint

She failed to fully fund the state's pension fund, setting the stage for all governors who followed her to do the same. Now the pension fund is about in the same shape as the Social Security Trust Fund - empty. She did favor tax cuts, but failed to curb spending, making for a larger deficit. She also vetoed a bill outlawing the despicable practice of partial birth abortion.
I wouldn't say she was overtly racist, but she had a habit of saying the most racially clueless remarks. And she irritated may NJ residents by naming a highway rest stop after Howard Stern in exchange for his endorsement.
In the end, I was sorry I had voted for her, though I might have been sorrier had I voted for her opponent, Florio.
As EPA chief, I thought she was wrong to say that the air at Ground Zero was ok to breathe, when anyone who breathed one breath down there knew it was not.
Just my humble opinion.

894 Bradley F  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:06:33pm

I just don't understand this conservative cannibalism. Watch Glen Beck... or don't. Visit LGF... or don't. We have much more serious problems/issues to concern ourselves with.

So he's a bit histrionic... HE'S AN ENTERTAINER! News Flash!

As for the book-burning lady, there were quite a few fringe types who attended the various Tea Party events held around the country. I wouldn't even think of characterizing the events based on a few wackos. These wackos are always present, usually in low numbers.

A return to clear thinking is in order. Know thine enemy.

895 MPH  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:10:07pm

The video might be somewhere in this RSS feed -- anyone know which one it is?

[Link: foxnews1.a.mms.mavenapps.net...]

896 Aye Pod  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:13:55pm

891 needs to seek professional help to get over his LGF addiction. What a sad sight.

897 sleepyone  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:13:57pm

Really, really late to this thread but Charles, you have gold records!? I must live in a cave because I never knew that. Kudos!

898 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:14:20pm

re: #893 sandspur

She failed to fully fund the state's pension fund, setting the stage for all governors who followed her to do the same. Now the pension fund is about in the same shape as the Social Security Trust Fund - empty. She did favor tax cuts, but failed to curb spending, making for a larger deficit. She also vetoed a bill outlawing the despicable practice of partial birth abortion.
I wouldn't say she was overtly racist, but she had a habit of saying the most racially clueless remarks. And she irritated may NJ residents by naming a highway rest stop after Howard Stern in exchange for his endorsement.
In the end, I was sorry I had voted for her, though I might have been sorrier had I voted for her opponent, Florio.
As EPA chief, I thought she was wrong to say that the air at Ground Zero was ok to breathe, when anyone who breathed one breath down there knew it was not.
Just my humble opinion.

Wow. I haven't followed her career at all I guess. Much to consider. Thanks.

899 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:15:45pm

re: #896 Jimmah

891 needs to seek professional help to get over his LGF addiction. What a sad sight.

I always miss the juicy nutjob comments that stand only for seconds.

900 Aye Pod  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:15:45pm

re: #894 Bradley F

So he's a bit histrionic... HE'S AN ENTERTAINER! News Flash!

Tell it to the consevative blogs who are holding him up as the acid test of true conservatism. And by all means put him in a clown suit to avoid anyone making the mistake of taking him seriously in future.

901 kywrite  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:17:54pm

re: #385 Killgore Trout

I googled her nic (cookiecache) and nothing comes up but her youtube page.

Took me a BUNCH more than two clicks, but yes, she really DOES seem to be a plant.

Here's her cached page, the most recent I could find on the good ol' Wayback machine:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

And her current page:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

You might notice a couple of small differences. She did take the video herself; I wish I knew more about what she said about it, but I think that was all deleted after that last cache.

This in no way excuses the morons who agreed with her. But it certainly does appear that her sudden love for Glen Beck is kinda bogus. . .

902 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:19:12pm

re: #898 unrealizedviewpoint

I just saw a Wiki on her that was fairly balanced. It brings up all the negatives.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

She's not perfect by any stretch, but she's better than NJ dems.

903 Aye Pod  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:20:29pm

re: #899 unrealizedviewpoint

That was one of the more serious victims of LGF derangement syndrome. I don't think he's ever going to get over being banned from here.

904 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:23:24pm

re: #901 kywrite

Took me a BUNCH more than two clicks, but yes, she really DOES seem to be a plant.

Oh please. Nothing in any of that indicates anything more than a confused young woman. Calling her "a plant" is absolutely ridiculous.

905 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:26:17pm

re: #549 Killgore Trout

This is encouraging.....

Founding Bloggers For A Better Tea Party (VIDEO)

Watch the video.

Wonder if they got hate mail for that reasonable stance.

906 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:28:27pm

re: #901 kywrite

Took me a BUNCH more than two clicks, but yes, she really DOES seem to be a plant.

Here's her cached page, the most recent I could find on the good ol' Wayback machine:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

And her current page:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

You might notice a couple of small differences. She did take the video herself; I wish I knew more about what she said about it, but I think that was all deleted after that last cache.

This in no way excuses the morons who agreed with her. But it certainly does appear that her sudden love for Glen Beck is kinda bogus. . .

And if you go here:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

you will see another version of this person. It would have to be proven that she is a plant as they claim. Given her unstable nature it's fair to say she does fit the profile of a Beck fan.

Regardless, one of the speakers at this event was in agreement to burning books on evolution. Like it or not it displays once again the anti-science nature of certain members of the paleo-conservative movement.

907 DJGOLDY90  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:30:31pm

totally lol'ed at the MLK screen shot... seriously... the guy is a victim of his own bullshit... this is what happens... the whole absolute power corrupts absolutely shiz all over again... is anyone surprised really?

908 Hawaii69  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:30:40pm

re: #838 ArchangelMichael

Although there's truth in the title I bet 100% of the members are raving lefty moonbats.


Maybe, but truth is truth.

I joined just because I thought it was
a great name for a group, and the ultrascientic
online quizzes I've taken have identified me a
"moderately liberal". So, it's not 100% of the
membership.

I wouldn't be so dismissive. I have serious
political differences with many people, including
friends. I don't label them douchebags

909 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:31:48pm

re: #903 Jimmah

That was one of the more serious victims of LGF derangement syndrome. I don't think he's ever going to get over being banned from here.

That wasn't really Our savage, was it?

910 sleepyone  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:32:50pm

re: #904 Charles

Oh please. Nothing in any of that indicates anything more than a confused young woman. Calling her "a plant" is absolutely ridiculous.

While she may not be a "plant" I believe she is absolutely there to poke fun at the "rednecks" or whatever she thinks of conservatives or right-wingers. Call it what you will but she is having some fun at other's expense and knows exactly what she's doing. Either that or she is indeed disturbed and needs psychological help.

And you're right that it's distressing when the audience didn't immediately shout her down but instead clapped but as I said in an earlier thread, even Borat could get a group of people to say and do things they might nor normally do.

I'm not making excuses for the crowd but merely offering an alternative view of how things may have occurred.

911 Spartacus50  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:33:25pm

re: #907 DJGOLDY90

totally lol'ed at the MLK screen shot... seriously... the guy is a victim of his own bullshit... this is what happens... the whole absolute power corrupts absolutely shiz all over again... is anyone surprised really?

Nice avatar. We took one on the chin last week but still proud to be a Spartan

912 dry_heavz_4_alla  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:35:25pm

re: #901 kywrite

Comment from "Presidentjh (2 days ago)" claims that she's an established moby who's been featured on Huffington and Daily Kos. Searching.

913 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:35:59pm

re: #869 Charles

Here they come again.

That calls for some Primus!

Youtube Video
914 Spartacus50  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:36:53pm

re: #897 sleepyone

Really, really late to this thread but Charles, you have gold records!? I must live in a cave because I never knew that. Kudos!

Charles puts his pants on just like the rest of us but when he does, he makes gold records

915 sngnsgt  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:38:01pm

re: #809 albusteve

'Not Fade Away' is an American treasure written by Buddy Holly...recorded numerous times in his tribute....jus sayin Buddy holly is a far more important personality than Glenn what's his name

Including Rush (the band, not Limbaugh) Not Fade Away

916 coloradobuff  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:39:21pm

re: #873 Charles

Charles Krauthammer and Victor Davis Hanson, to name two off the top of my head.

How dare you choose two reasonable, intelligent, thoughtful fellows. What are you thinking?

Seriously, I guess Beck doesn't realize how much free publicity he gave you. Some of his more strident supporters may try to cause trouble, but I think it will be a positive event for you in the long run.

917 kywrite  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:40:01pm

re: #906 Gus 802

Dude, I'm a Beck fan. A pre-Fox Beck fan. And I'm pretty stable and yes, I have a decent education and a reasonably high IQ. Did not vote for nutty Paul. Did vote for McCain, largely because of Palin -- well, and the lack of options. Do not like the crazy antievolutionary madness. Am now vetting every Tea Party thing I look at for Paulian or other nonsense (so yes, I do listen to Charles). Are there some other tests for purity, because I probably pass 90% of them or more.

Gads.

918 sleepyone  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:40:30pm

re: #914 Spartacus50

Charles puts his pants on just like the rest of us but when he does, he makes gold records

I honestly had no idea. You find out something new every day I guess.

As a former budding musician (who put down the guitar for graphic design), I am in awe of anyone that has achieved that in the music world.

919 kywrite  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:41:35pm

re: #910 sleepyone

Call it what you will but she is having some fun at other's expense and knows exactly what she's doing. Either that or she is indeed disturbed and needs psychological help.

not really mutually exclusive, you know.

920 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:42:18pm

re: #897 sleepyone

Really, really late to this thread but Charles, you have gold records!? I must live in a cave because I never knew that. Kudos!

Two gold records and one platinum.

921 sleepyone  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:42:40pm

re: #919 kywrite

Call it what you will but she is having some fun at other's expense and knows exactly what she's doing. Either that or she is indeed disturbed and needs psychological help.

not really mutually exclusive, you know.

Ha!

922 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:44:12pm

re: #919 kywrite

Call it what you will but she is having some fun at other's expense and knows exactly what she's doing. Either that or she is indeed disturbed and needs psychological help.

not really mutually exclusive, you know.

She's the sane one in that bunch. Interesting that you don't criticize the guy who's ranting about "brainwashing devices" on his TV set, but the woman who posts a video exposing this crap is in need of mental help.

923 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:48:15pm

re: #917 kywrite

Dude, I'm a Beck fan. A pre-Fox Beck fan. And I'm pretty stable and yes, I have a decent education and a reasonably high IQ. Did not vote for nutty Paul. Did vote for McCain, largely because of Palin -- well, and the lack of options. Do not like the crazy antievolutionary madness. Am now vetting every Tea Party thing I look at for Paulian or other nonsense (so yes, I do listen to Charles). Are there some other tests for purity, because I probably pass 90% of them or more.

Gads.

Perhaps you should read what I said again. I said "a Glenn Beck fan" not "Glenn Beck fans."

Regardless, I think you have this place mistaken for a Glenn Beck support site. In light of Mr. Beck's action on his show today I don't think you will not find many here in support of this nor his show.

If you come here to defend Beck at this point then you are by default opposing Charles who was mentioned by name by this buffoon.

924 hazzyday  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:49:09pm

I think Glen Beck is running scared. He pulled in his big guns. A picture of Martin Luther King. Glen -- that's me. His Obama support doesn't show it. His willingness to imitate dousing someone with gasoline and burning them alive doesn't show it. I think the point got driven home to him. let's see how violent he is the next few months.

925 kywrite  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:52:13pm

'Kay, how about this?

WARNING WARNING WARNING - may not be work friendly -- it's from Something Awful forums.

[Link: forums.somethingawful.com...]

She sounds pretty moby to me.

926 hazzyday  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:52:21pm

re: #917 kywrite

Dude, I'm a Beck fan. A pre-Fox Beck fan. And I'm pretty stable and yes, I have a decent education and a reasonably high IQ. Did not vote for nutty Paul. Did vote for McCain, largely because of Palin -- well, and the lack of options. Do not like the crazy antievolutionary madness. Am now vetting every Tea Party thing I look at for Paulian or other nonsense (so yes, I do listen to Charles). Are there some other tests for purity, because I probably pass 90% of them or more.

Gads.

Pre Fox Beck fan here also. But I was also a CNN Crossfire Buchanan fan a long time. Fan of neither now. I only give Hannity a break because Afrocity has a monster crush on him. Prager and sometimes Medved are the only talking heads I can listen to now. Hmmmm Meghan(sp) Kelly...

927 kywrite  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:53:20pm

re: #922 Charles

She's the sane one in that bunch. Interesting that you don't criticize the guy who's ranting about "brainwashing devices" on his TV set, but the woman who posts a video exposing this crap is in need of mental help.

I agree with you -- the first paragraph was a quote I screwed up and my response was just me being cute. Or lame.

Those are also not mutually exclusive.

928 sleepyone  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:53:30pm

re: #922 Charles

She's the sane one in that bunch. Interesting that you don't criticize the guy who's ranting about "brainwashing devices" on his TV set, but the woman who posts a video exposing this crap is in need of mental help.

I think your comment may be directed at me? I must admit to not watching the entire thing because it's all noise and static to me. If there is a guy who honestly believes his TV is watching him or whatever, then that is messed up. My only point is to suggest the crazy woman is not indicative of the majority of people who might attend these meetings.

929 hazzyday  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 7:57:50pm

re: #906 Gus 802

She reads like a Beck fan to me.

930 kywrite  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 8:00:12pm

re: #923 Gus 802

I never said a word about Beck until that post. I think I can be a fan of both, whether they like one another or not.

931 kywrite  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 8:02:56pm

re: #920 Charles

/steps away from debate for just a moment/

Dude. Wow. How cool.

932 Bradley F  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 8:46:48pm

re: #900 Jimmah

I don't care who holds Beck up as the "true test", Jimmah. Think for yourself, Man! Watch him... or don't. I've listened to the story of his conversion to the LDS religion and I found it very moving.

I think Bill O'Reilly is an ill-informed, wishy-washy opportunist who cuts way too many figures way too much slack. But I'll still watch him most nights than not. He's ENTERTAINING. That's all.

There is only one true conservative that I both learn from and am entertained by and that's Mark Levin. Anyone who thinks that a TV entertainer is a sage who can be looked to for enlightenment is a nitwit.

There... I've said it.

933 Elcid  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 8:53:35pm
And then this freak has the gall to compare himself to Martin Luther King Jr.

Charles, I've run and re-run that video of Beck (never have watched Beck's show, nor any TV news media and to be honest NO Tube, at all and won't until this coming college football season) and for the life of me, I don't see, or hear Beck 'comparing' himself, to either...James Earl Ray or MLK, Jr.

Beck picks up Ray's picture around 6:15 into the video, shortly after, MLK,Jr....that segment runs TO 6:47. Does holding up two pictures 'compare' Beck to either Ray or King Jr.?

Beck does say...as he is putting down King's pic..."this is the way to change things, not with a gun"

934 Quilly Mammoth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 8:59:18pm

I honestly don't see the Ron Paul connection. I don't listen to Beck frequently but I've never heard him support Ron Paul and I'm pretty sure I've heard him mock Paul. On the whole I'd rather listen to a more positive, personal economic forecast...Beck is a downer...I listen to Dave Ramsey. I like the "It's all in your hands" message. That's real hope.

Ramsey had a pretty good take down of the doom-and-gloomer "Gold Standard" advocates the other day. He said if, and I paraphrase, "If you think that the dollar is going to collapse and you should buy gold you should buy guns. If that happens no one wants your shiny bits of metal. Our economy will be a barter one then. You'll need trade goods. Ammo, food, jeans and sneakers. Like some people who pitch gold on their show also tell you to stock up on."

Hmmmmmm.

935 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:01:49pm
936 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:07:42pm

re: #934 Quilly Mammoth

I honestly don't see the Ron Paul connection. I don't listen to Beck frequently but I've never heard him support Ron Paul and I'm pretty sure I've heard him mock Paul.

Glenn Beck has had Ron Paul on his show dozens of times, and praised him effusively.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

937 Shug  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:10:41pm

Just got in. just watched the video.
no time to read the comments.

sure mandy already said it, but if not :

Fuck You Glenn Beck

938 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:11:34pm
939 Shug  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:11:37pm

PS: goodnight all.

Charles, when the flack is thickest, you must be over the target.
Keep after them. The truth is on your side.

Shug

940 Shug  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:12:22pm

oops FLAK not Flack.

apologies to Robeta

941 mrgreen  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:18:08pm

re: #240 ConservatismNow!

Non-genetically engineered seeds? As in seeds that are not resistant to disease, bugs, or rodents?

Ummm, I'm no fan of the anti-GMF crowd either, but I hate to break it to yah, non-GM seeds are hardly pushovers to disease and pests. Evolutionary pressure has provided them with a bevy of weapons, but we tend to transplant them to areas with new threats they have no defenses against. GM is often an attempt to compress thousands of years of evolutionary response to threats into a more immediate timeframe.

942 tom from pv  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:23:41pm

re: #934 Quilly Mammoth

...Beck is a downer..."If you think that the dollar is going to collapse and you should buy gold you should buy guns..."

Actually, Beck saved me a ton of money BECAUSE of his downer attitude last year. He got me thinking that maybe there was a housing bubble and maybe stocks are over-hyped. I sold my last position in May of 08. By October I was thinking Beck was pretty close to being my personal savior!

In contrast, pros like Cramer and Bob Brinker totally missed warning us about the crash. And I missed the gold opportunity totally.

943 Nadnerb  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:24:42pm

I watched the whole thing and I have to say- Glen is an asshole and a thin skinned nut-job paranoid prick. His whole harangue against Charles became wholly unintelligible toward the end. He sneers in an effeminate way when he says "jazz musician" to emphasize the "insult." Fuck you Glenn. You make fun of jazz - the only purely American art form.

944 Scion9  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:25:08pm

Way late to this thread, and didn't read it all so this has probably already been solved, but in case not....

In regards to the YouTube poster "Cookiecache"; here is a cache of her youtube page from last year.

The Wayback Machine is your friend.

945 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:32:18pm

re: #944 Scion9

Way late to this thread, and didn't read it all so this has probably already been solved, but in case not....

In regards to the YouTube poster "Cookiecache"; here is a cache of her youtube page from last year.

The Wayback Machine is your friend.

And again. I don't see a single thing in any of that that proves she was a "leftist plant." I see a confused young woman. Calling her an "infiltrator" is ridiculous.

And it completely misses the point that people in that room applauded when she yelled "burn the books."

This is misdirection.

946 tom from pv  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:36:51pm

re: #923 Gus 802

If you come here to defend Beck at this point then you are by default opposing Charles who was mentioned by name by this buffoon.

Ooops, my comment above is solely directed at the financial side of Glenn Becks radio show. Not defending anything except that his downer prognostications proved to be correct and saved me serious cash in the 2008 meltdown.

Along those lines, I will listen to anybody who makes sense. And will stop listening when they stop making sense. Web-blogs are good at exposing non-sense. (Dan Rather, et al)

947 wiffersnapper  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:38:12pm

re: #1 NYCHardhat

Beck can't hold a candle to Charles.

Updinging because you got quoted in hate mail!

948 Gus  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:38:23pm

re: #946 tom from pv

OK

949 Quilly Mammoth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:43:04pm

Charles,
Ok, he's had Paul on a lot. I've never watched Beck on TV. But on the following video he seems to be saying that Ron Paul is like a broken clock who's right twice a day.

Youtube Video

Beck says he doesn't agree with Paul and Paul goes into his nutty money policy thing. But I am also worried that Treasury and the Fed can spend money not appropriated by Congress.

I also worry that opposition to Obama's agenda and the Transnationalist agenda gets too fragmented. It's hard to throw everyone over board. Going the way of Geller and others who embrace fascists is clear cut. Past that it gets harder.

I met a few Paulians at the Tea Party I went to. They were small in number and for the most part seemed like people looking for the truth and fairly harmless. They seemed to be attracted to Ron Paul because he was telling them that things aren't right. I think they many have never been exposed to a clear voice uncluttered by lunacy. VDH would be a start for them.

Regardless, hysterics and buying a years worth of food is not going to lead us out of this mess.

950 Quilly Mammoth  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 9:51:42pm

re: #942 tom from pv

Well yes, but the money I put in last month bought the market at wholesale. How do you lose money if you don't sell? Were you planning on retiring and had to get out to protect your immediate cash needs?

I move on the direction of the 200 day average. I invest in five sectors. I don't buy individual stocks anymore, and haven't for a long while. Moving your money because of someone's hunch is not sound.

Having a plan, mine or anyone's, that is a long term strategy has paid off. Being the equivalent of a day trader and moving because of fears and hunch's is nto a guarantee. I promise if that you wait to get back in based on Beck's analysis you will miss the opportunity to buy America at wholesale prices.

951 WestTexasJew  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:00:17pm

I happen to like Glenn Beck.
He's over the top and overly passionate sometimes but I see this period as a watershed battle and eating our own is not constructive.
By the way, I'm a professional geologist and paleontologist and have no trouble with the creationists that get bashed continually.
Global warming is as much a myth as Creationism, but at least the Creationists are not demanding that we pay them 3 trillion dollars for their scam.
In short: pick your damn battles.

952 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:14:00pm
953 Athos  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:16:10pm

re: #951 WestTexasJew

I guess we've found a new thread that brings out the long time low post count members to pontificate and defend libretarian nutjobs who have no issue supporting Birchers, Luap Nor, and shall we make the not so great leap to assume the very common topics that similar supporters are entralled with - like anti-semitism, trooferism, NAU / Amero and other conspiracies du jour?

How familiar is the 'eating our own is not constructuve' meme - why it reminds me of the same bleats from the neo-nazi's who call for our looking the other way in the name of fighting islamofascism. Apparently, to them, we are to surrender our values and morals in order to provide them with the acceptance that they covet so much.

So, how's this - We've picked our damn battles. You and those who you support who embrace this moral and intellectual bankruptcy, including Mr. Beck, are our targets. We feel quite confident in our ability to remain true to ourselves and not make deals with those who support and will cover odious and loony positions. You choose the fringe - live with that choice. We will not provide you with revelance you do not deserve.

Cockroaches do not like the light - and we will keep shining that light and highlighting the moral and intellectual bankruptcy demonstrated in the policies advocated by Beck, Birchers, Paul, Rockwell, and others.

954 RadicalRon  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:17:59pm

I was a fan of Beck's radio show until he went Loonbat.

Since then, I've tried to watch his TV show and the only thing I see is a raving buffoon. Shitfire, Beck makes Keith Uberschmuck seem somewhat rational.

Charles, I hope that the new HQ gets hooked up soon. As you are seeing firsthand, customer service isn't exactly TWC's strong suit.

955 Athos  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:18:00pm

re: #952 mistergs

And yet another cockroach out from his hiding place....long time member, low post count.

Hey Stinky, up for another game of whack a mole?

956 AMER1CAN  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:27:49pm

I refuse to watch anything with Glenn Beck, but I've had a few drinks tonight and so I thought what the hell....

All I can say is that Glenn Beck knows, that Charles knows, that Glen's a complete phony. And this scares Beck a little bit. Well a lot actually.

Did Glenn Beck accuse Charles Johnson of trying to take away his freedom of speech? LOL WTF?

WOW!

Just WOW!

957 Scion9  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:31:43pm

re: #945 Charles

Well, I didn't call her a 'leftist plant' in my post. I wasn't sure that anyone had posted the cache yet. Backtracking I see that it was. However, a poster also gave a link to this SomethingAwful thread; in which someone posts the Glen Beck 912 video and a poster called Cookiecache chimes in with a "lol". The poster of the video replies...

I am going to assume that it is still a Glenn Beck 9 12 Project no matter the fact that in this late hour I now realize that I have fallen victim to your clever ruse

Cookiecache replies:

everyone else was real

i just came for some wings

then some political bloggers posted it no ?s asked

then mainstream news media chimed in

then glenn beck analyzed my utube for 30 mins

No offense to conservatives either, but her cached youtube channel also shows her top three hobbies/interests as "the ocean, gay rights, atheism" and that doesn't fit the mold of a Glen Beck fanatic. Nor does it mesh with her interests of "Jesus Christ, religion, God" less than one year later.

The conversation in the thread also continues with the further intent to moby by other posters...

my next account is gonna be a gun owning mom. MossbergMommy1963

While I don't think I'd use the term 'leftist plant' in the first place and she doesn't seem to be intellectually or ideologically driven for that matter; she does seem to be just another teenage Goon moby based on the thread over at SomethingAwful. It might not be Court worthy evidence, but it looks pretty damning to me. I'd need to be presented with something overwhelming to prove that she wasn't there to moby based on the content of the thread and the very dichotomous youtube accounts.

It is true that the general kookery, applauding and verbal agreement with her comment is appalling and I'm genuinely not trying to misdirect. Nor have I been chiming in to stick up for Dr. Beltway and his Paulestinians, because I'm not in agreement with them (or John Birchers, Glen Beck et cetera as a further disclaimer). I also didn't go to either of my local Tea Parties because I don't find the phenomena nor the 'protest' format in general to be a particularly useful political tool (although, with all of the brouhaha I'm now very curious and might actually go to the next one to spectate and report).

I'm just not willing to ignore this apparent trolling by this young woman in good faith any more than I am the other kookery though (especially the forum community to which she belongs that essentially is bent towards making finding the truth on any given matter on the internet more difficult, "for the lulz"). The claim that she was a 'plant' does seem to be true, even if Beck meant it to be a misdirection from the broader issue of kook subculture being mainstreamed that the video displays.

958 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:38:59pm

re: #957 Scion9

The claim that she was a 'plant' does seem to be true, even if Beck meant it to be a misdirection from the broader issue of kook subculture being mainstreamed that the video displays.

A "plant?" Are you serious? At the most, what you can say is that she was making fun of those people -- but the crowd applauded when she yelled "burn the books," and the guy who talked to her agreed with her.

This is such pointless nonsense. It's an attempt to get people to focus on a side issue and ignore the other problems.

959 realwest  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:45:15pm

re: #953 Athos Hey Athos, how come you keep on whacking trolls before I get a chance to? What are you younger and faster or just lucky?!

960 Athos  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:46:40pm

re: #959 realwest

Just lucky, I guess.

961 realwest  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:50:09pm

re: #949 Quilly Mammoth
Well

Regardless, hysterics and buying a years worth of food is not going to lead us out of this mess.

you are certainly correct about that. But folks tend to believe what they WANT to believe and hell, if they want to buy surplus MRE's or worse yet surplus C-Rat's, at say $10 a meal, when I can buy 'em for .75 cents a meal, I'll sell 'em the damn food!

962 realwest  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:50:58pm

re: #960 Athos LOL! Well at least you didn't say faster and younger!

963 Athos  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:53:25pm

re: #962 realwest

Not that much younger than you (will hit the big 50 later this year....) - but thanks to you, I did call my MD to make sure that when I get my physical in mid-June (almost as bad as Canada in terms of waiting / scheduling time) - I get a full test for my PSA.

964 Humanitarian2112  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 10:56:58pm

What's wrong with alcoholics? I mean, Dang diggity! why errbody gotta bang on my demographic?

965 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 11:06:31pm
966 Scion9  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 11:21:32pm

re: #958 Charles

At the most, what you can say is that she was was making fun of those people

That is pretty much what I said in my post; "not ideologically driven", "for the lulz". I qualified my 'plant' terminology. She wasn't literally 'planted' there by anyone, but she also wasn't actually a member of the protest. The term is close enough to accuracy.

but the crowd applauded when she yelled "burn the books," and the guy who talked to her agreed with her.

Well, I also acknowledged that in my post as well.

This is such pointless nonsense. It's an attempt to get people to focus on a side issue and ignore the other problems.

If I sent you a video of me doing this exact same thing, and admitted upfront that I was there mobying, and set up a fake identity on youtube or on a blog pretending to be a wingnut I'm pretty damned sure you would not indulge me.

Even if you posted my video because it exposed Birchers et al at a mainstream protest agreeing with me, because the information is valuable to people wanting to be involved in politics, I find it likely that that I'd get called out for being a moby, regardless of rather I was ideologically motivated or was doing it for kicks.

That this girl was out there getting a laugh out of these people by yelling "Burn the books", and then putting up a fake YouTube channel professing her love of Glen Beck and God is certainly a very useful talking point for anyone that does wish to misdirect from the broader issue of the DTV brainwashing guy, and the "Chuck Baldwin is a great man" protester, as well as the applause and the agreement with her comment.

Not paying attention to the distinction (or even projecting the appearance of not paying attention to or caring about the distinction because it is pointless nonsense), in my opinion, also isn't going to be helpful in providing information on the broader issue either. I'm not fundamentally in disagreement with you, on the idea that political activist kooks are a much bigger problem than unemployed teenage Goons (which really should be obvious), at all.

You of course, are free to disagree and apparently do.

967 Humanitarian2112  Thu, Apr 16, 2009 11:41:11pm

I steele don't undastand why errbodies gotta bust on my demographic. can't he just be be a looney toones? whay he gotsa be a alcoholic looney toones? can't usins alcoholics be functional working alcoholics who ain't crazy anymore? Good Lawd!

968 fat.elvis  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 12:01:07am

Alcoholic humor should at least be funny. Glenn Beck is insulting to Jeff Foxworthy. Good alc humor

Youtube Video
969 freetoken  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 12:47:22am

re: #966 Scion9

The young woman videographer, who most likely is making fun of those in her part of OH whom she thinks are funny, is, IMO, to be thanked for providing evidence of just what the Beck fans are saying in their groups (encouraged by Beck.)

That Beck wishes to make her the issue is understandable, as she has the goods on him and his movement. That is, she recorded how strange or marginal some of the individuals are.

Beck is unwilling to own publicly that he is intentionally pandering to, seeking the support of, that which has up till now been marginalized by modern conservatism (by which I mean the movement that arose after Buckley and Goldwater intentionally set out to ostracize Jack Welch and the John Birch society.)

That so few today who call themselves "conservative" have taken Beck to task for popularizing Skousen's 5000 Year Leap (mentioned in those OH videos) is to the shame of conservative bloggers and writers, and to Charles' credit as one of the few to point this out.

The paranoid conspiracist is poison to reasonable dialog about politics, society, governance, etc.

Rants about the 16th and 17th amendments to the US constitution, gold fanaticism, ravings about international bankers, etc. are all hallmarks of the Birch-ist paranoid, in addition to the ever present secret communists hiding in public institutions.

Beck plays (and preys) upon this all the time. To this he adds a (somewhat incomplete) Mormon set of doctrines about the religious significance of the founding US documents.

Lately Beck is playing to the secessionists ... what will it be tomorrow?

970 humanitarian2112  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 12:57:05am

re: #968 fat.elvis

Alcoholic humor should at least be funny. Glenn Beck is insulting to Jeff Foxworthy. Good alc humor

Youtube Video


Amen, Fatius groovius. Amen. Tis about that serious, as well.
971 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 1:22:27am
UPDATE at 4/16/09 5:19:17 pm:

Here’s the video. The segment where Beck attacks me starts at about 7:45.

Ha! Thanks for linking that. What a disaffected, narcissistic, blathermouth.

You have obviously snatched a good patch of his sensitive little short hairs, otherwise he would not have mentioned you and your blog, by name, on national fucking television! But, any publicity is good publicity, right?

Beck tripped on his dick ego, here. For every ten Beck fans that check out LGF, there will be at least one that recognizes him for charlatan that he is.

972 gegenkritik  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 1:35:21am

I think this "gasoline-incident" was bizarre, but much more alarming is Beck's support for JBS, Ron Paul and creationism.
But at least, his ridiculous attempt to smear LGF/Charles ("jazz-musician"...) may attract new readers.

973 muddywood  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 1:42:16am

I went to a Tea Party in my sleepy little suburb in Temecula, California.
Over 1000 people showed up, which stunned me. This was BY FAR the largest gathering/protest of any kind that I have witnessed in the 10+ years that I have lived here. This blew away the Prop 8 rallies.
I didn't see any kooks or Troofers. There was one guy with a "Audit the Fed" sign. (which I tend to agree with)
The rest of the people with the nicest , most polite people you'll ever meet.
These are the people that make America work.
And they are fed up with their local, state and federal governments wasting their hard earned tax dollars.
They are worried that both parties are taking us down a road where the destination is socialism and economic slavery. The Republicans are driving us there at 60mph. The Democrats are driving us there are 100mph. But they are both taking us to the same place.
These people want to stop the car, read the road map(the constitution) and get back on the right road to freedom.
And if Glenn Beck has anything to do with getting these people together and then keeping the momentum going, then God bless him.
That is all.

974 Clutch  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 5:29:19am

The best Beck is Jeff Beck!

975 pjaicomo  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 6:12:01am

"And we’re supposed to ignore the moderator, promoting the extreme right-wing/libertarian/Dominionist Constitution Party."

I am not actually identified with any party, but I don't think someone can claim to be a libertarian and "OK with the Constitution Party" - like that guy in the t-party video said.

Limitations to biblical foundations? Not libertarian.

976 Bradley F  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 7:39:51am

re: #974 Clutch

The best Beck Is Jeff Beck? I'm with you there, my brother! And the second best is Beck... the dude with the "Devil's Haircut".

977 ~BfromTX  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 8:23:33am

This whole thing makes me sick...shame on all of us! :-(

978 lurking faith  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 8:30:51am

Not only does Glenn Beck sneer as if being a jazz musician were something shameful, but he lectures Charles about doing two-click research - and yet he portrays LGF as if it were not entirely Charles's blog. He describes Charles as "a writer for the blog Little Green Footballs."

So tell us, Glenn, are you deliberately misleading your viewers, or are you just too lazy to do the (simple) research so that you would know what you're actually talking about?

979 Aye Pod  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:43:33am

re: #932 Bradley F

I don't care who holds Beck up as the "true test", Jimmah. Think for yourself, Man!

So if one observes that conservative blogs are holding up Glenn Beck as an acid test of conservatism, one is guilty of failing to think for oneself? That's the kind of failure of logic I'm used to seeing from troofers and the like.

Watch him... or don't.

But whatever you do, don't arrive at a negative opinion of him and then open your mouth about it./

Anyone who thinks that a TV entertainer is a sage who can be looked to for enlightenment is a nitwit.

Then it would appear that conservative blogs are overrun by nitwits right now.

980 Fearless Freep  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:49:18am

re: #42 Idle Drifter

So we are suppose to be lemmings with a collective agenda towards political power for the right people to lead this country. That objecting to part or whole of that agenda makes us lesser in their eyes and receiving slander and mocker is our just reward. Why in the hell does this sound so familiar?

Charles, keep up the good fight.

If this is how you feel you should be on Beck's side. Beck doesn't just side with Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians or anyone else; he examines the issues and does his research. You may rarely agree with Beck's analysis, but he actually does research and bases his opinion on something more substataive than party loyalty.

How about criticizing Beck for Beck's actions and words instead choosing some BS from some fruit loops from the grass roots movement.

And yes a grass roots movement is necessary.
What else have we left to persuade our officials to stop spending our country into insolvency?

981 Fearless Freep  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:02:50am

re: #64 DhimmiMoore

re: #64 DhimmiMoore

Seeing these guys on TV is a good thing: Glenn Beck, Gerald Celente, Peter Schiff, Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin...

The common ground is a return to free market ideals, a return to individual liberty and personal responsibility, a rejection of government by the corporations and for the corporations, and a focus on sovereignty in light of increasing calls for global regulation of the banking system (which is just the start). This is the basis of conservatism, and this is what people are reconnecting with.

agree 100%!

I sure wish I took Beck's advice to get out of the stock market last year when it was at 14000

982 Fearless Freep  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:10:48am

re: #69 pre-Boomer Marine brat

... following on ...

I seem to recall having seen a cartoon ages ago (maybe one of Disney's more serious efforts.) VERY fuzzy memory has it as an educational short, with a snake-oil charlatan for a villain, explaining how people like Beck play upon the emotions.

Does anyone else recall something like that? It might have come out in the Fifties.

Beck does his research and build logical conclusions. Focus on his arguments and ideas instead of on how he presents it

983 Fearless Freep  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:22:30am

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Randians are watching, thinking and reconsidering.....
James Randi message board:"Tea Parties"

interesting to see how it played there but normally the term "Randian" refers to fans of Ayn Rand, right?

984 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:39:56am

re: #980 Fearless Freep

If this is how you feel you should be on Beck's side. Beck doesn't just side with Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians or anyone else; he examines the issues and does his research. You may rarely agree with Beck's analysis, but he actually does research and bases his opinion on something more substataive than party loyalty.

Right. And he's a creationist who hypes books written by John Birchers, and promotes Ron Paul.

Sorry, I'm not on Beck's side. Not at all.

985 sftech  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:46:08am

Charles,
If that's an attack your skin is way too soft.

Man up.

SFTech

BTW- never watched Beck, not his buddy, just commenting.

986 Fearless Freep  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:03:46am

re: #126 _RememberTonyC

re: #126 _RememberTonyC

I am on record as having a problem with Beck since the day that nut in Pittsburgh killed the cops. I thought for sure that guy had to be a Beck listener/viewer who acted out in a tragic way. For a time before that, I was starting to be turned off by some of his apocalyptic statements. While I was in agreement with some of his stuff, the doomsday stuff was a problem for me. But now it appears he has totally gone off the deep end. And if he is publicly calling Charles and Lizard Nation out, I have an major problem with him. I will continue to watch his show for a few minutes here and there, which is all I could take to begin with. But we need to keep an eye on him, so I will not ignore him. And FOX needs to look past his good ratings and make sure he dials back his extremism. Because that is the only news network that represents my views to any extent. But my patience for this crap is not unlimited. Broadcasters have a responsibility to not only chase ratings, but to be responsible. I have been a TV producer for more than 30 years, and I admire the way FOX does present many sides of an issue. But any broadcaster worth a damn knows that all we really have is our credibility. And if we piss that credibility away, we don't DESERVE to have an audience.

I bet you are one of the ones that laughed at DOW 14000 when Beck predicted Dow 7500. I admit I was. Sometimes extraordinary things happen and its best to consider the evidence for yourself instead of dismissing the idea out of hand.

Maybe this type of thinking is part of the cause of the housing bubble... I mean real estate values NEVER go down, right?

By the way there is an EXCELLENT Peter Schiff video concerning the origin
of the recent economic meltdown

Youtube Video
987 S'latch  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:12:13am

Glenn Beck no longer looks like he is having much fun. His response sounds defensive and makes him appear bitter and petty. How counterproductive.

988 Fearless Freep  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:28:45am

re: #984 Charles

Right. And he's a creationist who hypes books written by John Birchers, and promotes Ron Paul.

Sorry, I'm not on Beck's side. Not at all.

I'm an atheist but I am not going to write off all the ideas of every Christian.
Sure, disparaging the theory of evolution doesn't win him any points with me. but I understand that particular opinion is based on illogical premises stemming from his religion.

Generally I find him to be a unique, honest and independent; his thoughts are most often well founded. He never asks his audience to have faith that he is correct, he instead asks them to listen to his arguments I appreciate the fact that he does not fear moving away from the party line; We have too many redundant, party-line lemming broadcasters already and Beck is a breath of fresh air.

989 Fearless Freep  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:42:05am

re: #984 Charles

Right. And he's a creationist who hypes books written by John Birchers, and promotes Ron Paul.

Sorry, I'm not on Beck's side. Not at all.

Oh and by the way, if your beef with Ron Paul is his foreign policy the you and Beck agree on that point. Where Beck and Paul agree is in the belief that this level of Federal spending, if continued, will eventually destroy this nation.

That is way the Tea Parties are necessary!

990 Fearless Freep  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:52:24am

re: #134 Gus 802


In their view freedoms and liberties are exchangeable. Their message is "be silent" which is counter to what a free society should represent.

It's you guys that are attempting to "silent" the voices of freedom by discrediting them with videos showing frauds rousing the lunatic fringe

991 Fearless Freep  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 12:08:04pm

re: #156 Killian Bundy

Yeah, he's either an idiot or the best thing since sliced bread depending on whether he agrees with you on a particular issue.

/it's a total package, he likes Glen Beck

They have their areas of agreement and disagreement. For instance, I think i recall from Beck's CNNH show that Penn Gillette told Beck that he could never invite Beck to dinner at his home. ( because of Beck's religious views)

Yet that does not stop them from working amicably together to advance a common political agenda

992 tom from pv  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 12:19:05pm

re: #950 Quilly Mammoth

Some folks use the "buy and hold" strategy and like it. I'm not one of them. If you can sell your fund BEFORE it plunges 50%, you have cash to rebuy at the better level. If you hold on thru the plunge, you've lost that advantage. AND you're hoping the fund goes back up.

It took a lot of "discussion" between me and the wife before I acceded to the sales. Had I been a little more "agreeable" earlier, we would have saved even more. The wife was first to catch on to the Beck warnings -- at that time I was a Bob Brinker fan. Brinker never did warn of the coming plunge. Beck did.

In fact, Beck laid out a roadmap. When oil was in the 150 range, he had guests warning that if the oil drops to the 120 range, watch out. And if it plunges to below 100, get out. Well, after july, 2008, oil dropped like a stone. And the market followed suit in Oct of 2008. The wife actually had the oil numbers written down.

yes, getting back in will be interesting. But at least I'm not in a "hold and hope" mode. I can choose when to jump back in the pool.

993 hiddenlizard  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 1:32:02pm

"And we’re supposed to ignore the moderator, promoting the extreme right-wing/libertarian/Dominionist Constitution Party."

actually, crazy theocratic-libertarian Constitution Party, endorsed by our pal RP!

994 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 4:15:39pm

re: #985 sftech

Charles,
If that's an attack your skin is way too soft.

Man up.

SFTech

BTW- never watched Beck, not his buddy, just commenting.

OK, I think I'll start manning up and thickening my skin by blocking your rude ass.

995 gruvin  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 5:14:51pm

Beck needs an old fashioned beat down.

996 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 7:14:05pm
997 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 8:18:40pm
998 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 8:53:56pm

Please delete me, let me go...

No problem. But unfortunately for you, your dramatic goodbye comments are also deleted.

See ya!

999 formercorpsman  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:07:41pm

Wow. It is amazing how someone can be here for years on end, & post only 20, 30, comments since 2004.

Hell, 2008 for that matter.

1000 carbon footprint  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:25:04pm

Glenn Beck is a fucking douchbag. Good lord. Does he think about what he says?
Sorry, Glenn, if not all of us on the right don't bow down and kiss your ass.
I think his move to Fox along with the massive jump in ratings has gone to his alcoholic head.

1001 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:27:13am

re: #932 Bradley F

Anyone who thinks that a TV entertainer is a sage who can be looked to for enlightenment is a nitwit.

re: #982 Fearless Freep


Beck does his research and build logical conclusions. Focus on his arguments and ideas instead of on how he presents it

Heh.

1002 sfcmac  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:07:00am

I watch Glenn Beck and come to this site, for basically the same reasons: to get commentary, information, and news on politics and issues that as a Republican, I feel are important.

This whole episode is sad. I've read both sides and what I see is a childish flame war between two people who are supposed to be on the same side of conservative issues. By the time you get done reading all of the traded insults between both camps, you have to wonder what the hell they were arguing over in the first place.

1003 themaninthestripedsuit  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:24:56am

I drank the LGF Kool-Aid and l liked it.

1004 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:51:26pm
1005 uncommon_common_sense  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:22:13pm

Most people both liberal and conservative of both democratic and republican persuasion think of politics like they think of religion. They are steadfast in their beliefs and vilification of the other side. And when a rational thought is stated that disputes someone's steadfast basically religious like beliefs, they react against the messenger instead of reexamining their basis for their beliefs.

Charles calls it like he sees it. He is not a paid employee of a major corporation which pushes their employees to get ratings by aggravating the senses of the listeners to get them riled up and agreeing or disagreeing. This is done in a disingenuous manner that is pretty easy to see through (Glen Beck as an example). In this lizards opinion, Charles presents the news in an accurate and concise manner that is both educational and enlightening.
Keep up the good work Charles! Keep breaking down boundaries and keep people thinking.

You are changing the world for the better, one reader at a time.

1006 tweet  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:08:40pm

Wow what a mess!

Wasn't it enough Beck couldn't come up with the correct information on immigration? He as well is one of the numerous media types that encouraged Republicans/Conservatives to stay home and voice their dissatisfaction by not voting in the 2008 elections. This set-up the majority the Dems have been enjoying much at our wallet's expense. What a stupid freaking move.

The only reason this happened was because Glenn had become do predictably boring his ratings took a hard ride to the bottom. Much like the illegals the unions need to refill their union halls Glenn has used those from the 3rd party ranks to make him relevant in key radio markets again that had dropped him. There are a large number of who used to listen to Glenn who still keep in contact, in regards to him the only we thing normally have to say about him is there he goes again....lol

This is all ridiculous because the simple solution is to retake the party from the inside out by voting true conservatives on to Central Committees in large enough numbers the good ole boys are swept out. Why support 3rd parties whose sole role in elections for the last 20+ years has been to bleed off votes from those who traditionally vote Republican.

The Beck Bots or Glenn himself can say whatever they want. If an enterprising individual had access to his past broadcasts and dissected them for accuracy on the issues people would begin to walk away in large numbers again from his show.

Glenn's snide comments about Charles only shows his lack of depth.

1007 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:39:00pm
1008 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:33:09pm

re: #1007 blogagog

The only reason I'm sticking up for Beck is because CJ is actually suggesting that Beck curtail his first amendment rights.

Exactly how would Beck go about curtailing his own First Amendment rights?

Or are you saying that Charles is asking Beck to curtail his (Charles') First Amendment rights?

Or is your bottom line ... posting at the end of dead threads because you get whacked too much when you come out into the middle of one?

1009 califleftyb  Sun, Apr 19, 2009 7:52:59am

Please promise us Charles that if you ever have a hemorrhoid operation you would go bat-shit crazy on your blog.


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