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1 AndyMacOP  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:27:28pm

Who doesn't love a baby chimp? Dr. Zaus maybe...

2 jaunte  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:27:29pm

Is cuteness an evolved survival trait?

3 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:27:34pm

DHS iz persicuting da cuties!

4 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:27:40pm

Just think- in a couple o' short years it could rip your arms off and stuff 'em...

5 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:27:57pm
6 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:27:59pm

ise vishulising teh cheezburger, Mom, liek u sed.

7 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:28:01pm

looks like a monkey junky jonesin' for a banana...

8 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:28:20pm

re: #2 jaunte

Is cuteness an evolved survival trait?

it's got to be- across mammals, that is- birds? Don't think so.

9 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:28:56pm

everyone loves baby pictures eh?

10 jaunte  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:29:15pm

re: #8 Capitalist Tool

it's got to be- across mammals, that is- birds? Don't think so.

I guess it's in the eye of the same-species adult beholder.

11 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:30:05pm

re: #4 Capitalist Tool

Just think- in a couple o' short years it could rip your arms off and stuff 'em...

Not unless a moronic human being decides to make it a pet.

12 jcm  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:30:58pm

Hi, Cous!

13 countrygurl  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:31:03pm

They don't look so cute now ...........after that big one attacked a lady, tore her face off, and chewed off her fingers I'm definitely keeping my distance. If I want to lose face I'll turn just change my politics to the left. .

14 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:31:33pm

Only a couple of mutations away from riding horseback with a rifle shouting "The only good human, is a dead human!"

15 Racer X  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:32:25pm
16 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:32:36pm

re: #13 countrygurl

They don't look so cute now ...........after that big one attacked a lady, tore her face off, and chewed off her fingers I'm definitely keeping my distance. If I want to lose face I'll turn just change my politics to the left. .

That was entirely the woman's fault. Chimpanzees are not pets.

17 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:32:37pm

re: #11 Charles

Not unless a moronic human being decides to make it a pet.


Never ever considered having a pet which could kill and eat me...

18 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:32:41pm

re: #11 Charles

Not unless a moronic human being decides to make it a pet.

dig that

19 jcm  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:33:12pm

re: #14 ArchangelMichael

Only a couple of mutations away from riding horseback with a rifle shouting "The only good human, is a dead human!"

Yeah, but Charlton Heston has to go on a deep space mission first.....

20 jaunte  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:33:25pm

Not a good idea for moronic humans to give chimps drugs, either.

21 countrygurl  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:33:30pm

re: #2 jaunte

Is cuteness an evolved survival trait?


Yeah, I think so. Otherwise we'd just eat our young.

22 Killian Bundy  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:33:35pm

re: #16 Charles

That was entirely the woman's fault. Chimpanzees are not pets.

/there's rumors out there that it was more than a pet

23 Mich-again  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:33:48pm

When chimps and dogs form an alliance against us, look out.

/drink!

24 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:34:10pm

re: #19 jcm

Yeah, but Charlton Heston has to go on a deep space mission first.....

"Guns don't kill people. Apes with guns kill people."

25 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:34:11pm

this kill and eat me vibe is not cool

26 Gus  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:34:14pm

My grandfather was not a chimp!

/He was a snake.

27 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:34:24pm

re: #22 Killian Bundy

/there's rumors out there that it was more than a pet

geez, way ta sink a thread early...

28 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:34:24pm

re: #22 Killian Bundy

hmmmm

29 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:34:57pm

Ma Ma.

30 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:35:33pm

re: #23 Mich-again

When chimps and dogs form an alliance against us, look out.

/drink!

When dogs roam free and pack up, look out!

31 jaunte  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:35:33pm

Yo Yo

32 Mich-again  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:35:57pm

In Case of Rapture, Can I Have Your Car?

33 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:36:26pm

re: #22 Killian Bundy

/there's rumors out there that it was more than a pet

Why did Michael Jackson have a pet monkey?
Because monkeys can't testify.

34 Wishing  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:36:34pm

Sleep well Lizards!

35 Racer X  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:36:35pm

re: #22 Killian Bundy

/there's rumors out there that it was more than a pet

Ick!

*shudder*

36 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:36:53pm

Having a pet that requires diapers should be illegal.

37 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:37:06pm

re: #32 Mich-again

In Case of Rapture, Can I Have Your Car?

From what I understand about Rapture, IT'S OVER.

38 Silvergirl  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:37:20pm

re: #34 Wishing

Good-night, Wishing.

39 Mich-again  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:38:00pm

re: #30 Capitalist Tool

When dogs roam free and pack up, look out!

I have seen exactly that while driving through neighborhoods in Detroit.

40 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:38:29pm

re: #37 MandyManners

From what I understand about Rapture, IT'S OVER.

but someone will still have to drive around and clean up the mess.

41 jcm  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:38:31pm

re: #36 Slumbering Behemoth

Having a pet that requires diapers should be illegal.

Non-domesticated animals shouldn't be pets.

42 Racer X  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:38:34pm
43 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:39:16pm

I am a zoo nut...I have been to zoos all across the country and one of the very best in this thread would be he Columbus Zoo...they have up there a huge gorilla population, maybe 25 or so...it is extremely satisfying to sit for hours and watch how they interact...the keepers know each by name and will help describe behaviors etc....jus sayin

44 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:39:18pm

re: #39 Mich-again

I have seen exactly that while driving through neighborhoods in Detroit.

Those were dogs?

45 AndyMacOP  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:39:57pm

Caesar is no ones pet!

46 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:40:05pm

re: #44 Capitalist Tool

Those were dogs?

dawgs

47 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:40:12pm

re: #37 MandyManners

But... but he's still here...

OH NOES!
/

48 countrygurl  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:40:13pm

.

re: #43 albusteve

That was Jack Hannah's Zoo back in the day before he had his own TV program. You are right, it is one of the BEST!

49 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:40:39pm

LGF is the Columbus Zoo of blogs

50 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:40:47pm
51 Silvergirl  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:41:03pm

re: #48 countrygurl

.

That was Jack Hannah's Zoo back in the day before he had his own TV program. You are right, it is one of the BEST!

Other good zoos? I like Omaha's.

52 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:41:06pm

Low in the grave he lay, Jesus my Savior,
waiting the coming day, Jesus my Lord!
Refrain:
Up from the grave he arose;
with a mighty triumph o'er his foes;
he arose a victor from the dark domain,
and he lives forever, with his saints to reign.
He arose! He arose! Hallelujah! Christ arose!

Vainly they watch his bed, Jesus my Savior,
vainly they seal the dead, Jesus my Lord!
(Refrain)

Death cannot keep its prey, Jesus my Savior;
he tore the bars away, Jesus my Lord!

Up from the grave he arose;
with a mighty triumph o'er his foes;
he arose a victor from the dark domain,
and he lives forever, with his saints to reign.
He arose! He arose! Hallelujah! Christ arose!

53 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:41:19pm

re: #43 albusteve

I am a zoo nut...I have been to zoos all across the country and one of the very best in this thread would be he Columbus Zoo...they have up there a huge gorilla population, maybe 25 or so...it is extremely satisfying to sit for hours and watch how they interact...the keepers know each by name and will help describe behaviors etc....jus sayin

You live in Columbus?

54 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:41:28pm

re: #41 jcm

Non-domesticated animals shouldn't be pets.

They should be reserved strictly for kingpins of criminal empires and evil geniuses.

55 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:41:37pm

Honco War Apes!

56 Racer X  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:41:50pm

Lance Link says he is awfully cute!

57 jaunte  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:42:02pm

re: #43 albusteve

Yeah, I used to do the same at the Miami Metrozoo; they're fascinating to watch if you take an hour or so.

58 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:42:06pm

re: #53 Bobblehead

You live in Columbus?

no...great town tho

59 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:42:13pm

I don't know, every time I've been to a zoo, I keep sizin' 'em up- lookin' for the best aim point.

60 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:43:13pm

re: #58 albusteve

no...great town tho

The Columbus Zoo is quite nice. Great new water park. Come and check it out.

61 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:43:18pm

re: #55 albusteve

I like it.

62 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:43:38pm

re: #47 Slumbering Behemoth

But... but he's still here...

OH NOES!
/

It's not up to me.

63 countrygurl  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:43:44pm

re: #51 Silvergirl

Other good zoos? I like Omaha's.


The one in Vancouver is pretty cool too -- you can see the Otters up close and personal, they are very very very amorous and quite interesting. And San Diego, of course.

64 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:43:47pm

re: #57 jaunte

Yeah, I used to do the same at the Miami Metrozoo; they're fascinating to watch if you take an hour or so.

it's time...you need to spend the time...

65 Mich-again  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:44:11pm

re: #44 Capitalist Tool

Those were dogs?

The last time was at the Chene Trombley market at I94 and Mt. Elliot. A pair of nasty looking dingo looking mutts chased my buddy carrying his soul food by the pound lunch from the exit to my car in the parking lot nipping at his feet. I was LMAO! yelling at him to SERPENTINE!

66 The Shadow Do  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:44:46pm

Every good chimp recipe begins with a good roux...
/cajun

67 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:44:49pm

Supervised a teenage party tonight.

Baby animals are cuter than adolescent animals.

/Do I need to explain?

68 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:45:14pm

re: #65 Mich-again

LOLOL zig
ZAG

69 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:45:17pm

re: #67 EmmmieG

Supervised a teenage party tonight.

Baby animals are cuter than adolescent animals.

/Do I need to explain?

Nope. Been there, done that.

70 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:45:39pm

re: #60 Bobblehead

The Columbus Zoo is quite nice. Great new water park. Come and check it out.

great music venue too...you knew I'd get to that part eh?....the Minny city zoo is another cool venue...what's with zoo's and rock and roll?

71 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:45:56pm

Rapture..as ridiculous as Kwanzaa? Discuss.

72 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:46:08pm

re: #62 MandyManners

It's not up to... Aw heck! You mean I've been praying at my MandyManners altar for nothing? ;)
/

73 jcm  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:46:17pm

re: #54 Slumbering Behemoth

They should be reserved strictly for kingpins of criminal empires and evil geniuses.

I like snow leopards, I'll take a pair of those.....

74 countrygurl  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:46:20pm

Jack Hannah helped us with our zoo in Roanoke, VA He helped us raise about 1/2 million dollars and it saved our zoo. He's a very wonderful person. Went way out of way and didn't charge us a dime. And he had a bunch of fine animals brought to the event, including a cheetah and a clouded leopard and a 14 foot long white boa constrictor, penquin, dingo and other critters. What an amazing day that was.

75 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:46:54pm

re: #61 Slumbering Behemoth

I like it.

cute little guy....tomorrow he will eat your brains for lunch

76 Mich-again  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:47:30pm

re: #67 EmmmieG

Supervised a teenage party tonight.

I had the kind of awkward moment of driving my 14 yo son home from the movies with his little girlfriend. They rode together in the backseat and I was like Holmes the Chauffeur up front.

77 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:48:13pm

re: #73 jcm

Genius or kingpin? Or both?

78 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:49:00pm

re: #76 Mich-again

I had the kind of awkward moment of driving my 14 yo son home from the movies with his little girlfriend. They rode together in the backseat and I was like Holmes the Chauffeur up front.

just think!...no don't

79 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:49:09pm

re: #71 joecitizen

Rapture..as ridiculous as Kwanzaa? Discuss.


Ok for you Mrs. Petrarki- i double- rapture fresha steaksa bekwanza you no needa de juices aflowin' out.

80 jcm  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:49:25pm

re: #77 Slumbering Behemoth

Genius or kingpin? Or both?

Both of course!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

81 Silvergirl  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:50:15pm

A musical toy for you. No instructions necessary.

82 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:50:25pm

re: #52 MandyManners

Low in the grave he lay, Jesus my Savior,
waiting the coming day, Jesus my Lord!
Refrain:
Up from the grave he arose;
with a mighty triumph o'er his foes;
he arose a victor from the dark domain,
and he lives forever, with his saints to reign.
He arose! He arose! Hallelujah! Christ arose!

Vainly they watch his bed, Jesus my Savior,
vainly they seal the dead, Jesus my Lord!
(Refrain)

Death cannot keep its prey, Jesus my Savior;
he tore the bars away, Jesus my Lord!

Up from the grave he arose;
with a mighty triumph o'er his foes;
he arose a victor from the dark domain,
and he lives forever, with his saints to reign.
He arose! He arose! Hallelujah! Christ arose!

83 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:50:55pm

re: #80 jcm

I should have known, what with all those sharks with fricken lasers up in those northern waters.

84 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:51:20pm

re: #82 MandyManners

In every Wesleyan- style hymnal I've ever seen...

85 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:51:46pm

re: #75 albusteve

Poor fellar is gonna starve.
/

86 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:52:18pm

re: #79 Capitalist Tool

Ok for you Mrs. Petrarki- i double- rapture fresha steaksa bekwanza you no needa de juices aflowin' out.


okeydokey

87 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:52:46pm

re: #70 albusteve

great music venue too...you knew I'd get to that part eh?....the Minny city zoo is another cool venue...what's with zoo's and rock and roll?

They have a very cool web site.

88 funky chicken  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:53:03pm

Hey look! It's a thumb!

89 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:53:10pm

re: #85 Slumbering Behemoth

Poor fellar is gonna starve.
/

appetizer...

90 jcm  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:53:26pm

re: #83 Slumbering Behemoth

I should have known, what with all those sharks with fricken lasers up in those northern waters.

All those gray days, need something to liven things up....

91 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:54:11pm

Witness!

92 pat  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:54:14pm

A primate thread? Wait until the liberals see this! RACIST!

93 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:55:42pm

re: #90 jcm

Do you have a cycloptic colleague?

94 sngnsgt  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:55:44pm

re: #92 pat

A primate thread? Wait until the liberals see this! RACIST!

Eh, we're just monkeying around.

95 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:55:46pm

Rapture?


Once it happens, THAT'S IT.

End of all.

End of world.

96 tblot  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:55:50pm

been watching baseball and the internet is cool for that

97 albusteve  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:56:14pm

re: #87 Bobblehead

They have a very cool web site.

yep...that's the place

98 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:57:35pm

re: #95 MandyManners

Rapture?

Once it happens, THAT'S IT.

End of all.

End of world.

Better get those survival kits ready then...

99 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:57:49pm

re: #95 MandyManners

Rapture?


Once it happens, THAT'S IT.

End of all.

End of world.


man made bullshit dating, I believe, from the 1800's with absolutely NOTHING to do with christianity..you've been snookered.

100 jcm  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:59:13pm

re: #93 Slumbering Behemoth

Do you have a cycloptic colleague?

Good help is so hard to find.

101 pat  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:59:26pm

The chimps hold the record for primate strength. Pound for pound about as strong as Neanderthals. No whimps those either. One of the reasons that we suspect there was minimal interbreeding with modern man was their strength, measured by using leverage estimates, was so far beyond our capabilities. Brains and strength are good things to have.

102 Mich-again  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:59:29pm

re: #68 Capitalist Tool

Run Forest Run!

103 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 9:59:48pm

re: #97 albusteve

yep...that's the place

Right beside the beautiful Scioto river.

104 Mich-again  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:00:22pm

re: #95 MandyManners

I thought some people got a few more lousy years to hang around?

105 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:01:29pm

"Get yor hands off me! You damn dirty ape"!

106 mikeymom  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:01:50pm

hey yoa all! just had the greatest night with our grown sons and their women--we are gearing up for a week of par-taying celebrating mikeydads retiring! he made homemade pizza- i made fresh biscuits w/strawberries and cream! yum! much wine--but the funnest part was--my younger son is with a gal who has an 8 yr old daughter that she has part-time custody of--and h and i played GO FISH--but--i think i need to look up the rules cause h had 3 times as many turns as i did! next time h comes over, im gonna teach her OLD MAID and then hopscotch on the driveway! what fun--can you see my big grin? life is good tonight! hope you are all well and happy!

107 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:02:05pm

and no matter how loud you sing it doesn't turn the song into the truth.

108 jcm  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:02:47pm

re: #105 pingjockey

"Get yor hands off me! You damn dirty ape"!

But it's not their fault......

109 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:03:31pm

re: #108 jcm
Oh noez. We blow'd it up!

110 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:03:44pm

Later folks.

111 sngnsgt  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:06:54pm

re: #110 pingjockey

Later pinger.

112 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:07:44pm

taptaptap...is this thing on?

113 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:08:55pm

re: #107 joecitizen

and no matter how loud you sing it doesn't turn the song into the truth.

And just which song would you be talking about? Surely not the one Mandy quoted- it mentions nothing of "the rapture"...
beyond that, everything is just a matter of belief, doubt or knowing.
There are those who claim to know that the mysteries of the Living Christ are the same known to mystics throughout time. There are those who would ask you to believe them when they give you that message and there are those who would tell you not to believe anything they say, but find out for yourself- and offer to show you the way to find out.

114 Bobblehead  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:09:05pm

Good night peoples.

115 Silvergirl  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:10:38pm

re: #114 Bobblehead

Good night peoples.

Same here. good-night, Bubblehead, peoples, ape babies all.

116 Caton  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:11:09pm

re: #113 Capitalist Tool

There are those who claim to know that the mysteries of the Living Christ are the same known to mystics throughout time. There are those who would ask you to believe them when they give you that message and there are those who would tell you not to believe anything they say, but find out for yourself- and offer to show you the way to find out.

And then there are those who just leave me alone, so that I can keep enjoying my sinful life. They are the best.

117 PSGInfinity  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:11:14pm

Son?

118 mikeymom  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:12:04pm

re: #116 Caton

And then there are those who just leave me alone, so that I can keep enjoying my sinful life. They are the best.

amen

119 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:12:29pm

re: #113 Capitalist Tool

And just which song would you be talking about? Surely not the one Mandy quoted- it mentions nothing of "the rapture"...
beyond that, everything is just a matter of belief, doubt or knowing.
There are those who claim to know that the mysteries of the Living Christ are the same known to mystics throughout time. There are those who would ask you to believe them when they give you that message and there are those who would tell you not to believe anything they say, but find out for yourself- and offer to show you the way to find out.


I was speaking of songs and truth in general..and I believe miss mandy was using the final verse as an example of rapture,the rapture of jesus.

120 jcm  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:12:47pm

Night everyone I'm out too.

121 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:13:08pm

re: #116 Caton

And then there are those who just leave me alone, so that I can keep enjoying my sinful life. They are the best.

Never understood how minding somebody else's business and pointing fingers and all that- was a spiritual or Christian thing to do...

122 calcajun  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:13:10pm

For all you San Diego Lizards with sons -- The San Diego Scout Fair is tomorrow. $10 gets the family in. I'll be there with my boys' Troop. We'll be cooking--if you're there guess which booth is ours!

Bon soir to y'all.

123 kahall  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:13:46pm

That monkey is crazy reaching out to me. What does he want?

124 calcajun  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:14:34pm

re: #122 calcajun

Sorry--it's at Qualcomm Stadium starting at 10 AM

125 realwest  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:14:42pm

re: #123 kahall
Your Wallet! And you're grandkid's wallets too - he's a Democrat after all!

126 mikeymom  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:14:51pm

re: #123 kahall

That monkey is crazy reaching out to me. What does he want?

he wants to groom you--got lice?

127 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:14:52pm

re: #123 kahall

That monkey is crazy reaching out to me. What does he want?


he wants your evolved existence...

128 Caton  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:15:14pm

re: #121 Capitalist Tool

Never understood how minding somebody else's business and pointing fingers and all that- was a spiritual or Christian thing to do...

Yeah. It's more of a leftist thing -- or a greenie one...

129 calcajun  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:15:22pm

re: #123 kahall

That monkey is crazy reaching out to me. What does he want?

To whack his (distant genetic) cousin.

130 Max Darkside  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:16:08pm

re: #123 kahall

That monkey is crazy reaching out to me. What does he want?

He's poop flinging, firing blanks...

131 realwest  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:16:47pm

re: #106 mikeymom
Hey {mikeymom} When's his official retirement date?

132 kahall  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:18:08pm

has the blog fu penguin been discussed here before? I laugh at its stupidity when I am in the right mood and when the guy does something new on some cute animal pic.

133 mikeymom  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:19:11pm

re: #131 realwest

Hey {mikeymom} When's his official retirement date?

monday apr 26--we are sooo happy- and i hear you got good news too! i'll still keep the prayers going up-lol

134 swamprat  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:20:54pm

Beautiful song from Hawaii

135 swamprat  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:21:51pm

re: #116 Caton

And then there are those who just leave me alone, so that I can keep enjoying my sinful life. They are the best.

Buddha loves you

136 mikeymom  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:23:20pm

re: #135 swamprat

Buddha loves you

like caton, i love my sins!

137 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:23:55pm

patpatpat..this is on thing?

138 mikeymom  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:24:26pm

no

139 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:24:42pm

re: #121 Capitalist Tool

Never understood how minding somebody else's business and pointing fingers and all that- was a spiritual or Christian thing to do...

It's not, it's just a character flaw. Were people like that to have a different faith, or none at all, they would still find reasons to mind the business of others and point fingers.

140 swamprat  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:24:47pm

re: #132 kahall

has the blog fu penguin been discussed here before? I laugh at its stupidity when I am in the right mood and when the guy does something new on some cute animal pic.

You mentioned penguins on a monkey thread therefore I have no choice but to post this:

141 mikeymom  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:26:25pm

re: #140 swamprat omg-- i need more wine

You mentioned penguins on a monkey thread therefore I have no choice but to post this:



142 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:26:55pm

re: #132 kahall

It has. Someone linked it a while back, and I laughed at the blog title. Hilariously absurd.

143 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:28:37pm
144 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:29:20pm

oops!

145 kahall  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:29:27pm

re: #140 swamprat

I have told that joke about 20 times. I never new where it came from. Thanks, I'm going to send it to a guy I used to drive crazy with this joke....still do.
I will intercom to the front of the store when he is trying to wait on customers and tell him the auto place (pepboys) from next door called about his car..."they said you definitely blew a seal," I can see him laughing under his breath so to speak in the monitor out back. Cracks me up every time.

146 Caton  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:30:04pm

re: #140 swamprat

You mentioned penguins on a monkey thread therefore I have no choice but to post this:

Great. I'll post this when somebody mentions penguins in a technical thread.

147 realwest  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:30:29pm

Has anyone discussed this (linked in spin off links for prior thread): U.S. clears way to regulate greenhouse gases

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Obama administration opened the way to regulating U.S. greenhouse gas emissions on Friday by declaring climate-warming pollution a danger to human health and welfare, in a sharp policy shift from the Bush administration.

Environmental activists and their supporters in Congress were jubilant and industry groups were wary at the news of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's move. The White House said President Barack Obama would prefer legislation over administrative action to curb greenhouse emissions.

Congress is already considering a bill to cut emissions of carbon dioxide, which is emitted by cars, coal-fired power plants and oil refineries, among other sources.

EPA's declaration was seen as a strong signal to the international community that the United States intends to seriously combat climate change.
Senator Barbara Boxer, a California Democrat who shepherded climate legislation to the Senate floor last year, called the EPA's finding "long overdue."

"We have lost eight years in this fight," Boxer said in a statement. "... The best and most flexible way to deal with this serious problem is to enact a market-based cap-and-trade system which will help us make the transition to clean energy and will bring us innovation and strong economic growth."

"At long last, EPA is officially recognizing that carbon pollution is leading to killer heat waves, stronger hurricanes, higher smog levels and many other threats to human health," said David Doniger at the Natural Resources Defense Council.
But the National Association of Manufacturers said trying to regulate greenhouse emissions with the Clean Air Act would "further burden an ailing economy while doing little or nothing to improve the environment."

"This proposal will cost jobs. It is the worst possible time to be proposing rules that will drive up the cost of energy to no valid purpose," NAM President John Engler said.
[emphasis realwest]


Well it seems as if Obama and Pelosi are making good on Obama's pledge to kill coal and rely on Alternative Sources of energy, as long as that doesn't include Nuclear Reactors, CURRENTLY the ONLY viable means to disassociate our selves from Fossil Fuels in any significant way at all.
Oh yeah, I think Obama's on his way to destroying this economy with Higer Taxes, higer costs of fuel (if it'll be available at all) and inflation (his budget calls for a One and One-Half TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT).

148 kahall  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:30:46pm

I never new....sheessh!

149 mikeymom  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:31:15pm

re: #144 joecitizen

oops!

depends help for future reference, joe

150 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:31:55pm

Economic Stimulus Package

From LFG
/not to be confused with LGF

151 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:32:12pm

re: #149 mikeymom

depends help for future reference, joe


heh..oops not poops I always say

152 realwest  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:33:29pm

re: #133 mikeymom
I did get some good news mikeymom, I'm cool for at least 3 months, medically speaking* (as you know, I'm always Cool in all other ways!)
:)
I sure hope he's gonna get by on his retirement and all, and be able to just kick back and enjoy life with you!
*I do, however, gratefully accept your prayers!

153 pbird  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:33:45pm

Anybody like moles a whole bunch?

154 mikeymom  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:35:45pm

re: #147 realwest

real--its things like this that have me seriously afraid--awake at night afraid-for the future of this country--

155 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:35:54pm

haven't been out here in awhile but I'm glad to hear you are well realwest...

156 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:37:43pm

re: #150 Slumbering Behemoth

Economic Stimulus Package

From LFG
/not to be confused with LGF

Good one but we all know that LFG can only really be seen here.

157 swamprat  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:37:46pm

re: #153 pbird

Anybody like moles a whole bunch?

Honey? Why are all the gophers deaf?

158 pbird  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:38:15pm

re: #157 swamprat

Teehee.

159 realwest  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:39:21pm

re: #154 mikeymom Well I certainly fear the direction in which Obama wants to take up, but I also HAVE to think that even he isn't stupid enough to play this all out - there'd be no way to blame Bush for it.
Try not to worry or let fear keep you up at night - if he tries this crap and the overwhelming Majority of Americans discover that they don't like being out of work and don't like "rolling brownouts" as they had in California a few years back, then it'll get reversed right quick.

160 mikeymom  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:39:58pm

re: #152 realwest

real- you are the slickster! yes, we are looking good--hes always been financally conservative and has made wise investments--good pkg from ibm--now i have to convince him to let me help spend his hard earned $$$$!

161 realwest  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:40:51pm

re: #155 joecitizen
Thanks joecitizen! I'm happy to report it!
But I am concerned with my #147 - even if most folks out here don't appear to be!

162 SmellyMarxMovement  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:41:08pm

re: #157 swamprat

Honey? Why are all the gophers deaf?

"License to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations. Man, free to kill gophers at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case my enemy is a varmint. And a varmint will never quit - ever. They're like the Viet Cong - Varmint Cong. So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower. And that's all she wrote." - Carl Spackler

163 realwest  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:41:54pm

re: #160 mikeymom
Aw, I think you'll think of some way to get him to let you spend all that dough!
:)

164 mikeymom  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:43:06pm

well--good night all--be well and god bless--lizards are the best!

165 realwest  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:43:55pm

Well y'all it's been grand but I gotta get some sleep. Hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night, all.

166 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:45:51pm

re: #161 realwest

Thanks joecitizen! I'm happy to report it!
But I am concerned with my #147 - even if most folks out here don't appear to be!


unfortunately it's just the tip of the iceberg called obamasamerica, I fear.Things are gonna get mighty interestin' as we move down the road.

167 joecitizen  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:46:42pm

goodnight all!

168 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 10:54:35pm

I used to watch this show as a kid. Maybe that's why I'm so messed up.

/or maybe it was all my research on altered fruitcup

169 pbird  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:03:36pm

re: #168 Slumbering Behemoth

HEll!

170 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:10:10pm

re: #168 Slumbering Behemoth

I used to watch this show as a kid. Maybe that's why I'm so messed up.

/or maybe it was all my research on altered fruitcup

Altered how? By replacing raspberries with blackberries? :D

171 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:11:18pm

Four against one. What an unfair fight. Those poor jocks never had a chance.

172 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:12:02pm

re: #47 Slumbering Behemoth

But... but he's still here...

OH NOES!
/

Heh.

That phony-ass "I'm praying" face Robertson puts on for the teevee audience ought to be the first tip-off that we're dealing with a world-class charlatan here. "Look at meeeeee, I'm praying so hard my eyebrows practically meet." The devil sign is just an added bonus.

And that anyone can fall for his "there's a woman right now who's knee pain is being healed...and a man has just stopped coughing...and I'm about to jizz my pants when I think of the cash registers in the back room" shtick just beggars belief.

I'd wish him a pack of imps in the form of The Amazing Randi, but it doesn't take a Randi to debunk this asinine putz.

And remember: 9/11 happened because of gays!

Mountebank.

173 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:15:19pm

re: #2 jaunte

Is cuteness an evolved survival trait?

If they weren't adorable, we'd eat them.

174 swamprat  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:15:21pm

re: #172 Cato the Elder

He's got nothin' on benny hinn.

175 SummerSong  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:15:47pm

Oh My. Just looked at my broker software and despite the "good news" on Citibank...last trade of the day was a 11,388,500 share sell @ 3.65. They probably caught a triple and change from the bottom. Not bad for a swing trade, eh?

176 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:18:09pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

Altered how? By replacing raspberries with blackberries? :D

Think Red BrandTM fruitcup.

177 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:19:16pm

re: #71 joecitizen

Rapture..as ridiculous as Kwanzaa? Discuss.

Define 'ridiculous'. I've yet to see tacky Rapture cards, but on the other hand, no one celebrating Kwanzaa is bothering me about it on TV.

178 Killian Bundy  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:20:49pm

re: #175 SummerSong

Oh My. Just looked at my broker software and despite the "good news" on Citibank...last trade of the day was a 11,388,500 share sell @ 3.65. They probably caught a triple and change from the bottom. Not bad for a swing trade, eh?

/guessin' that was a market order

179 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:22:04pm

re: #104 Mich-again

I thought some people got a few more lousy years to hang around?

My understanding is that most of us will--getting raptured is for the saved few.

Of course, as someone pointed out, this will be a HUGE inconvenience to Western countries with a high proportion of saved Christians, and hardly affect, say, India and China.

Given that I think the world ends not too long after, though, I guess we'd muddle through.

180 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:22:59pm

For the love of god- keep that chimp away from champagne and middle-aged women from Connecticut with waaaaay too much time on their hands.

181 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:25:54pm

"Look! I have a thumb! A THUMB! And I'm not afraid to use it!"

182 SummerSong  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:32:54pm

re: #178 Killian Bundy

/guessin' that was a market order

I wish I could see who makes these trades. Smart money...I spend my life watching their foot prints..........

183 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:33:54pm

re: #172 Cato the Elder

+1 for making me work the dictionary.

Mountebank

Yup, that pretty much sums him up.

184 freetoken  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:34:21pm

I'm wondering...

185 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:35:16pm

re: #11 Charles

Well, it's certainly a MUCH cuter thought than the previous "whack a mole" ones. G'Night all!

186 devnulled  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:37:11pm

re: #168 Slumbering Behemoth

I used to watch this show as a kid. Maybe that's why I'm so messed up.

2001 - I was waiting for a load of lumber to show up at my house and I caught an episode of NZR on cable. Luckily it was one where the Hippo chick lost her pie or cat or something and my childhood memories were safe... UNTIL NOW!

Youtube also has a NZR outtake that is off the wall.

187 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:39:24pm

re: #184 freetoken

Stop it. I hear that it caused gout.

188 Killian Bundy  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:39:58pm

re: #182 SummerSong

I wish I could see who makes these trades. Smart money...I spend my life watching their foot prints..........

ADVS
CERN
DMND
GMCR
GOOG
INT
JCOM
MFE
MNRO
MYGN
NSH
NVEC
QSII
RNT
SNDA
SPSS
SY
SYMC
WIRE

/watch list sifted through two screens, looking now to see if any are in buy range

189 lostlakehiker  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:41:16pm

It only takes a few gene changes to make a different species. Some genes related to brain function have changed more between pan and sapiens than between chicken and pan. [current issue of scientific american, sorry no link.]

Hence, we're the ones who get to eat pan-fried chicken.

190 freetoken  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:42:02pm

re: #187 Slumbering Behemoth

Gout... ugh, but perhaps I could manage it.

What I was wondering is... if I posted a link to the anti-CNN website forum message of Maobama and Obamao images, would my Karma finally go over 1400?

191 Killian Bundy  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:43:27pm

re: #190 freetoken

What I was wondering is... if I posted a link to the anti-CNN website forum message of Maobama and Obamao images, would my Karma finally go over 1400?

/not with that avatar

192 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:51:08pm

re: #174 swamprat

He's got nothin' on benny hinn.

Maybe not - but now that Jerky Falwell is with the Lord, Patso seems to have cornered the market on vicious theology in the Christian teevee realm.

193 lostlakehiker  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:52:44pm

re: #147 realwest

Has anyone discussed this (linked in spin off links for prior thread): U.S. clears way to regulate greenhouse gases


Well it seems as if Obama and Pelosi are making good on Obama's pledge to kill coal and rely on Alternative Sources of energy, as long as that doesn't include Nuclear Reactors, CURRENTLY the ONLY viable means to disassociate our selves from Fossil Fuels in any significant way at all.
Oh yeah, I think Obama's on his way to destroying this economy with Higer Taxes, higer costs of fuel (if it'll be available at all) and inflation (his budget calls for a One and One-Half TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT).


Nuclear power is essential if we're to achieve sharp and rapid reductions in CO2 production. Anybody who flinches from mass cookie-cutter production of nuclear power, and from stashing the waste in Nevada which has underground salt flats that have been there billions of years and won't be going anywhere, just isn't serious. Whatever harm might come our way from nuclear accidents would be trivial compared to the threats they claim to see.

Still, it would be wise for us to spread our bets and go whole-hog into wind and solar as well. We're going to need energy, and if by some accident we produce "too much" of it, we can always smelt aluminum, desalinate water, and so on. But that's not a serious concern. Doubling and redoubling wind and solar three times running would still not get us to where we'd need to be for it to take the place of a large fraction of the coal we're using. Doubling it 4 or 5 times won't produce any oversupply.

194 SummerSong  Fri, Apr 17, 2009 11:57:06pm

re: #188 Killian Bundy

Thanks for sharing those. I have four of those on my radar. GOOG, SPSS, CERN and INT.

I only have room to watch 100 at a time. So many to study, so little time.

My money makers have been MCD anywhere south of 54.
MVSN south of 17
CAG south of 17

Others.........

I am glad I've been watching the market for many years... Takes some of the harsh off of it.

195 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:00:01am

Today in History, April 18th:


Highlights of this day in history: The San Francisco earthquake; What becomes known as 'Paul Revere's ride'; A suicide bomb hits the U.S. embassy in Lebanon; Physicist Albert Einstein dies; Wayne Gretzky plays his last NHL game. (April 18)
196 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:01:44am

re: #195 gmsc

Today in History, April 18th:

Highlights of this day in history: What becomes known as 'Paul Revere's ride';

197 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:01:48am

Jack Chick is a deranged asshole.

Just sayin'

198 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:02:06am

re: #1 AndyMacOP

Who doesn't love a baby chimp? Dr. Zaus maybe...

199 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:06:01am

re: #197 Slumbering Behemoth

Jack Chick is a deranged asshole.

Just sayin'

As an antidote, I highly recommend the Jack T. Chick Parody Archives.

200 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:10:19am

Evenin' gmsc- how ya feelin' tonight?

201 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:12:02am

re: #199 gmsc

Excellent, bookmarked.

I think that angry little butthole does a terrible disservice to decent, well meaning Christians everywhere.

202 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:16:28am

re: #200 Fenway_Nation

Evenin' gmsc- how ya feelin' tonight?

I almost back 100%. I still have the cough, but it's no longer in my chest, and the coughs are much more infrequent. 1 or 2 more nights of NyQuil should finish it off for good.

The downside? I think I gave my virus to littleoldlady via the computer.

re: #201 Slumbering Behemoth

Excellent, bookmarked.

I think that angry little butthole does a terrible disservice to decent, well meaning Christians everywhere.

It can be a little over the top, but the parody archive is funny, and really only goes over the top where Chick himself goes over the top.

203 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:20:32am

Do what I did when I was sick- chase some screwdrivers with some Ny-Quil capsules.

I dont think it actually helped my symptoms, but I could hardly even remember my own name by that point....

204 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:23:24am

re: #203 Fenway_Nation

Do what I did when I was sick- chase some screwdrivers with some Ny-Quil capsules.

I dont think it actually helped my symptoms, but I could hardly even remember my own name by that point....

Slight problem there – I don't drink! Besides – don't they usually advise against drinking and medicine?

205 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:24:54am

re: #204 gmsc

Slight problem there – I don't drink! Besides – don't they usually advise against drinking and medicine?


Probably.

206 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:27:53am

re: #204 gmsc


Besides – don't they usually advise against drinking and medicine?

Yes, primarily because the results are fucking awesome!

/seriously though, not a good idea
//and that link is NSFW

207 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:30:46am

re: #206 Slumbering Behemoth

Yes, primarily because the results are fucking awesome!

/seriously though, not a good idea
//and that link is NSFW

Masturbating with stolen cheese?!?

208 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:37:02am

Bill Whittle has an excellent video up on PJ Media. It's free to all, and is called The Cost of Media Bias.

Check it out!

209 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:37:52am

re: #207 gmsc

It happens.

210 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:40:25am

I was at a bank today where they had MSNBC and Chrissy Matthews blaring from a couple of strategically placed TVs...

I'll be all the more reluctant to step into that same branch in the future.

211 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:45:26am

re: #210 Fenway_Nation

I was at a bank today where they had MSNBC and Chrissy Matthews blaring from a couple of strategically placed TVs...

I'll be all the more reluctant to step into that same branch in the future.

Some banks are not using their TARP money, because they've lost just about as much in business due to bad publicity as they've received in cash.

Others seem to be reveling in it, such as your MSNBC bank. I've closed bank accounts for less.

212 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:50:14am

Payment Late? Lenders Can Remotely Disable Your Car

Repossessing cars is so old-fashioned. All that driving, locating people's houses, towing the cars away... with the mess credit markets are currently in, who has time for that? Car lenders don't.

That's why engine shut-off devices, or car disablers, are a hot new trend in car accessories. Less useful than a GPS and way less fun than a DVD player, the devices allow lenders to disable a car's engine remotely when payments are overdue. Yes, it's legal.

According to an article about the devices in the Kansas City Star, drivers have a few days' warning before the ignition is disabled.

With brand names On Time, PassTime and PayTeck, car disablers are wired to the ignition and typically provide motorists three or four days' warning, with flashing lights (green to amber to red) and quickening chirps as drop-dead payment dates near.

They will not shut down a moving car, manufacturers note, but will render starters silent the morning after the warning light turns red.

For now, disablers are limited to the subprime auto market—mainly dealerships that handle their own financing and court customers with bad or no credit. One small dealer notes in the Star article that since most of his customers are credit risks, "[f]or 90 percent of the cars [he] sell[s], [he] wouldn't without these."

AOL Autos reports that bigger lenders are looking into car disablers as the U.S. credit situation worsens, so the devices could become more common very soon. Provided that consumer protection laws don't catch up first.


No remittance, no ignition: Auto 'electronic repo' in action [Kansas City Star]
Car Payment Or Else: Engine Shut Off Systems [AOL Autos] Thanks, Roy!

213 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:50:58am

re: #208 gmsc

Did you know, it is because I accidentally happened upon his Eject!3 website that I found LGF?

/told that story too many times

214 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:53:29am

re: #213 Slumbering Behemoth

Did you know, it is because I accidentally happened upon his Eject!3 website that I found LGF?

/told that story too many times

I came here through Instapundit – I must've read this site for 3 years before I finally had a chance to register and start posting!

I've apparently made up for lost time, though. I'm less than 300 posts away from 10,000!

215 Buster Bunny  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:54:04am

Wow .. I love the photo at the top.

I never knew there was a photo of Glenn Beck at such an early age. Look .. he's already reaching for a microphone ... isnt it cute ?

216 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:56:32am

Celebrate Diversity . . .

except veterans, small-business owners, practicing Catholics, gun owners, talk-radio listeners, tea-party attendees, Texans, smokers, limited-government proponents, pro-lifers, taxpayers, NASCAR fans, Boy Scouts, oil-company employees, secure-border advocates, capitalists, global-warming agnostics, Cuban refugees, school-choicers . . .

217 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:56:57am

re: #214 gmsc

Well, you''l hate my guts then. I was reading LGF for only three short months before I caught a registration window.

218 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 12:59:41am

Awww! What a cute common ancestrally divided distant relative!

219 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:00:13am

re: #217 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, you''l hate my guts then. I was reading LGF for only three short months before I caught a registration window.

Nah – At the time, I tended to read this site only late at night, which rarely resulted in being at the same time as open registrations.

Once I started looking during the day (in a week of a paid vacation), I quickly found an open spot.

220 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:03:47am

re: #218 Sharmuta

Awww! What a cute common ancestrally divided distant relative!

Have we ever had an LNCT (Late Night Chimp Thread) before?

221 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:06:18am

When multi-millionaire fund manager Brian Myerson negotiated his divorce, he gave cash and assets to his wife and just took shares in his company as his portion of the joint assets. Cute, right? Well, this is one risk that didn't pay off for the edgy activist investor: his company's shares subsequently plummeted 90%, leaving the ex-wife walking off with what basically amounts to 105% of the divorce assets.

Myerson appealed his case in court — and lost. Unfair? Perhaps. Perhaps not. But either way, divorce lawyers have already noticed "a large increase in the number of high earners applying to reduce their maintenance payments, either because they have failed to receive bonuses or because their salaries have been slashed."

City tycoon hit by credit crunch fails to renegotiate divorce settlement [The Guardian]

222 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:06:34am

re: #220 gmsc

Have we ever had an LNCT (Late Night Chimp Thread) before?

I don't know.

223 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:09:39am

re: #219 gmsc

I credit traction from a minor surgery.

224 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:12:14am

Related:

[Link: travel.yahoo.com...]

America's best zoos- or so they say.

I'm surprised the Henry Doorly Zoo isn't there. It's an incredible zoo with a renown large cat program. Pity.

225 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:14:37am

Paul Revere’s Ride
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

226 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:15:58am

BTW, during all the MSNBS/Christina Matthews Texas Seccesion hyperventilation I was subjected to while waiting in line at the bank, not once did the topic of Vermont's Seccesion Movement come up.

I seem to recall the earnest lobbying for an independent Vermont being looked upon as quaint and folksy by the MSM when the subject was brought up.

/Hmm....wonder what resources the USA would miss more- Maple syrup and marble if Vermont Secceeded or Natural Gas and Oil if Texas seceeded?

227 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:18:20am

Doorly Zoo Cat Complex:

The building is capable of holding up to 100 large cats, including three subspecies of tiger, lion, jaguar, snow leopard, clouded leopard and the North American puma. Currently, the Cat Complex houses 38 cats (as of September 2004). Many unique features ensure an extremely functional building for cats, keepers and viewing public. Large hallways make is easy for the public to get around to see the cats. Several behind-the-scenes chutes are provided to safely move animals from one part of the building to another. The building is the largest cat breeding and management facility in North America.

If you're a big cat lover like me, try to see this zoo.

228 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:20:47am

Next Sunday Afternoon.

Also, probably NSFW....just to be safe.

229 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:20:58am

re: #226 Fenway_Nation

BTW, during all the MSNBS/Christina Matthews Texas Seccesion hyperventilation I was subjected to while waiting in line at the bank, not once did the topic of Vermont's Seccesion Movement come up.

I seem to recall the earnest lobbying for an independent Vermont being looked upon as quaint and folksy by the MSM when the subject was brought up.

/Hmm....wonder what resources the USA would miss more- Maple syrup and marble if Vermont Secceeded or Natural Gas and Oil if Texas seceeded?

To be fair, Vermont is constantly getting ready to secede from the US. Covering that as a news item is about as interesting as reporting on a kid who brought a Peanut Butter & Jelly sandwich for lunch to school.

230 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:21:01am

re: #226 Fenway_Nation

BTW, during all the MSNBS/Christina Matthews Texas Seccesion hyperventilation I was subjected to while waiting in line at the bank, not once did the topic of Vermont's Seccesion Movement come up.

I seem to recall the earnest lobbying for an independent Vermont being looked upon as quaint and folksy by the MSM when the subject was brought up.

/Hmm....wonder what resources the USA would miss more- Maple syrup and marble if Vermont Secceeded or Natural Gas and Oil if Texas seceeded?

I was wondering about Vermont too. It's a fringe movement from the other side with the same solution. (Both TX & VT are unconstrained solutions.)

231 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:21:01am

re: #227 Sharmuta


But do they have those plus-size kitty condos?

232 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:24:48am

re: #231 Fenway_Nation

Funny. But in all honesty, they have great spaces for the cats, so I could say "yes".

233 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:26:09am

re: #229 gmsc

Article is from nearly two years ago, so the 'Bush Bad/AmeriKKKa Bad' angle is played up. I imagine the same proponents for Vermont independence back then have a tingle running down their legs at the new Community 0rganizer-in-Chief right now.

234 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:29:25am

Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.

I guess this is the LNDT. Who's drinking?

235 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:29:47am

re: #234 Erik The Red

Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.

I guess this is the LNDT. Who's drinking?

The chimps.

236 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:31:40am

A man was walking in the street when he heard a voice.
"Stop! Stand still!

If you take one more step, a brick will fall down on your head and kill
you."

The man stopped and a big brick fell right in front of him.
The man was astonished.

He went on, and after awhile he was going to cross the road.
Once again the voice shouted: "Stop! Stand still!

If you take one more step a car will run over you and you will die."
The man did as he was instructed, just as car came careening around the
corner, barely missing him.

"Where are you?" the man asked. "Who are you?"
"I am your guardian angel," the voice answered.

"Oh yeah?" the man asked. "And where were you when I got married?"

237 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:36:54am

Once upon a time lived a beautiful Queen with large breasts.

Nick the Dragon Slayer obsessed over the Queen for this reason.

He knew that the penalty for his desire would be death should he try
to touch them, but he had to try.

One day Nick revealed his secret desire to his colleague, Horatio
the Physician, the King's chief doctor.

Horatio thought about this and said that he could arrange for Nick
to more than satisfy his desire, but it would cost him 1000 gold coins to arrange it.

Without pause Nick readily agreed to the scheme.

The next day, Horatio made a batch of itching powder
and poured a little bit into the Queen's bra while she bathed. Soon
after she dressed, the itching commenced and grew intense.

Upon being summoned to the Royal Chambers to address this incident,
Horatio informed the King and Queen that only a special saliva, if
applied for four hours, would cure this type of itch, and that tests
had shown that only the saliva of Nick would work as the antidote to cure the itch.

The King, eager to help his Queen, quickly summoned Nick to their chambers.

Horatio then slipped Nick the antidote for the itching powder, which
he put into his mouth, and for the next four hours, Nick worked
passionately on the Queen's large and magnificent breasts. The
Queen's itching was eventually relieved, and Nick left satisfied and
hailed as a hero.

Upon returning to his chamber, Nick found Horatio demanding his
payment of 1,000 gold coins.

With his obsession now satisfied, Nick couldn't have cared less and,
knowing that Horatio could never report this matter to the King, and
with a laugh told him to get lost..

The next day, Horatio slipped a massive dose
of the same itching powder into the King's underwear.

The King immediately summoned Nick.

The moral of the story.............

Pay your bills.

238 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:42:46am

Slow thread tonight!

And after I went to all the trouble of staying up for fruitcup!

239 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:43:15am

re: #238 gmsc

Slow thread tonight!

And after I went to all the trouble of staying up for fruitcup!

I log on and the thread dies:(

240 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:44:34am

An eccentric billionaire wanted a mural painted on his library wall, so he called an artist.

Describing what he wanted, the billionaire said, "I am a history buff, and I would like your interpretation of the last thing that went through Custer's mind before he died. I am going out of town on business for a week, and when I return, I expect to see it completed."

Upon his return, the billionaire went to the library to examine the finished work. To his surprise, he found a painting of a cow with a halo. Surrounding this were hundreds of Indians in various sexual positions.

Furious, he called the artist in. "What the hell is this?" screamed the billionaire.

"Why, that's exactly what you asked for," said the artist smugly.

"No! I didn't ask for a mural of pornographic filth. I asked for an interpretation of Custer's last thoughts!"

"And there you have it," said the artist. "I call it, 'Holy cow, look at all those fucking Indians.'"

241 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:45:26am

Just going through the DHS Right-Wing Extremist PDF again, and no matter how much soft-selling of it is going on, I still find it pretty vile.

The FBI noted in a 2008 report on the white supremacist movement
that some returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have joined extremist groups.

Hmm....wonder if the FBI or DEA also noted in any report the number of returning veterans (however small) who are being recruited for MS-13 or the Gangster Disciples? [I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but I wouldn't be surprised if DHS took note for this brief].

Didn't the White House basically say they were going to politicize the Census by loading it with ACORN members? How come it's suddenly so far beyond the pale that the white house would politicize the DHS?

242 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:46:11am

I entered with a joke, but should say, "Happy Friday LNDT, Lizard Nation". When I left, the count was 15 on the BBQ, and I see 8 were stopped from rejoining as sock puppets; is that the final count?

243 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:46:29am

re: #234 Erik The Red

Blinkers on... "Right here"! Blinkers off...

THUD!

/drinking is bad, m'kay

244 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:47:45am

re: #239 Erik The Red

I log on and the thread dies:(

Nah, it's been slow since I logged on, as well.

245 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:51:12am

re: #239 Erik The Red

I log on and the thread dies:(

And here, I thought it was me. How do I look tonight?

246 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:53:13am

On a golf tour in Newfoundland, Tiger Woods drives his Mercedes Benz into a gas station in a remote part of the island.

The attendant at the pump greets him in a typical Newfoundland manner, completely unaware of who the golfing pro is.

"Mornin' bye" says the attendant.

Tiger nods a quick "hello" and bends forward to pick up the nozzle.

As he does so, two tees fall out out of his shirt pocket onto the ground.

"What are dey den, son?" asks the attendant.

"They're called tees" replies Tiger.

"Well, what on de good earth are dey for?" inquires the Newfie.

"They're for resting my balls on when I'm driving" says Tiger.

"Freeckin Jaysus" says the Newfie, "Dem boys at Mercedes tink of everything".

247 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:53:14am

re: #245 Pietr

And here, I thought it was me. How do I look tonight?

Like a kitten with a gun!
;)

Quick! Someone help this thread to Keep On Movin'!

248 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:56:59am

Upon arriving home in eager anticipation of a leisurely evening, the husband was met at the door by his sobbing wife. Tearfully she explained, "It's the druggist - he insulted me terribly this morning on the phone."

Immediately the husband drove downtown to accost the druggist and demand an apology. Before he could say more than a word or two, the druggist told him, "Now, just a minute - listen to my side of it. This morning the alarm failed to go off, so I was late getting up. I went without breakfast and hurried out to the car, but I'll be damned if I didn't lock the house with both house and car keys inside. I had to break a window to get my keys. Driving a little too fast, I got a speeding ticket. Then, about three blocks from the store I had a flat tire.

When I finally got to the store there was a bunch of people waiting for me to open up. I got the store opened and started waiting on these people, and all the time the darn phone was ringing its head off. Then I had to break a roll of nickels against the cash register drawer to make change, and they spilled all over the floor. I got down on my hands and knees to pick up the nickels - the phone is still ringing - when I came up I cracked my head on the open cash drawer, which made me stagger back against a showcase with a bunch of perfume bottles on it, and half of them hit the floor and broke. The phone is still ringing with no let up, and I finally got back to answer it. It was your wife -- she wanted to know how to use a rectal thermometer. Well, Mister, I TOLD HER!"

249 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:58:07am

Men Are Just Happier People-- What do you expect from such simple creatures? Your last name stays put. The garage is all yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another snack. You can be President. You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth. The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another gas station restroom because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add character. Wedding dress $5000. Tux rental-$100. People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them. New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.

Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks. A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase.. You can open all your own jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness. If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original color.... The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades. You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes -- one color for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look. You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice concerning growing a mustache.

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

250 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 1:58:39am

One day Little Johnny went to his father, and asked him if he could buy him a $200 bicycle for his birthday. Little Johnny's father said, "Johnny, we have an $80,000 mortgage on the house, and you want me to buy you a bicycle? Wait until Christmas!"

Christmas came around, and Little Johnny asked again. The father said, "Well, the mortgage is still extremely high, sorry kiddo. Ask me again some other time."

Well, about 2 days later, the boy was seen walking out of the house with all his belongings in a suitcase. The father felt sorry for him, and asked him why he was leaving.

Little Johnny said, "Yesterday I was walking past your room, and I heard you say that you were 'pulling out,' and mommy said that 'you should wait because she was coming, too....'

"And I'll be DAMNED if I'm gonna get stuck with your $80,000 mortgage!"

251 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:00:19am

re: #250 Erik The Red

One day Little Johnny went to his father, and asked him if he could buy him a $200 bicycle for his birthday. Little Johnny's father said, "Johnny, we have an $80,000 mortgage on the house, and you want me to buy you a bicycle? Wait until Christmas!"

$80,000 mortgage – Now that's funny!

Oh, apparently there is more to that joke...

252 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:00:24am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

253 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:00:43am

re: #252 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

Yummy! And I can taste it just like before!

254 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:01:01am

Thanks for the 3000 pietr:)

255 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:01:20am

gmsc! :-)

YAY!

/i can haz maths?

256 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:01:41am

re: #252 littleoldlady


Mine tastes like Coedine. Did I get....

*thud*

Zzzzzzzzz...

257 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:02:00am

re: #249 Pietr

I just noticed that you finally got an Avatar. A nice one.

258 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:02:35am

re: #252 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thankee M'am.....Have you served it before on a regular thread that peeps converted into an LNDT?

259 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:02:38am

re: #252 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

Morning {lol} Thanks

260 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:03:24am

Fenway! :-)

I didn't put no nuttin' in your fruitcup!

261 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:03:47am

re: #255 littleoldlady

gmsc! :-)

YAY!

/i can haz maths?

Yep!

Which reminds me of something that happened at work today!

262 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:04:21am

Pietr! :-)

Only on special occasions...

Erik! :-)

263 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:05:14am

Any one hear about nor luap getting punked by Sasha Cohen in his new movie?

264 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:05:42am

re: #254 Erik The Red

Thanks for the 3000 pietr:)

Congratulations...and here's another......:>))

replying to your next post, as well-Thank you...I thought the kitten fit, so I'm wearin' it.....

265 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:09:36am

re: #261 gmsc

Yep!

Which reminds me of something that happened at work today!

/taps foot impatiently...

266 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:10:35am

re: #252 littleoldlady

And on that note, I should probably knock off. Sort of like a late night "You've stayed up too late and drank too much" alarm clock.

Big hugs and kisses, LoL.

Later, Lizards.

267 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:11:12am

re: #265 littleoldlady

/taps foot impatiently...

Give him time, LoL. He's quick with figures mentally, but he's having to manually type this out..............

/white smoke....

268 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:11:12am

re: #266 Slumbering Behemoth

And on that note, I should probably knock off. Sort of like a late night "You've stayed up too late and drank too much" alarm clock.

Big hugs and kisses, LoL.

Later, Lizards.

Later SB.

269 freetoken  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:11:42am
270 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:12:46am

re: #266 Slumbering Behemoth

And on that note, I should probably knock off. Sort of like a late night "You've stayed up too late and drank too much" alarm clock.

Big hugs and kisses, LoL.

Later, Lizards.

G'night, SB......(next time, don't set that alarm clock...)

271 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:13:46am

re: #266 Slumbering Behemoth

xoxox Slumbering! :-) xoxox

272 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:14:15am

re: #263 Erik The Red

Any one hear about nor luap getting punked by Sasha Cohen in his new movie?

No, what happened, Erik?

273 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:17:18am

re: #261 gmsc

Yep!

Which reminds me of something that happened at work today!

Next to where I work, there's a man who owns a kiosk specializing in pierced earrings. He said he was stepping out for 15 to 20 minutes.

Not long after he left, a woman and her son (the son is about 30) come up to check out the earrings, and she asks me about them. I explain that the owner should be back shortly.

While they're waiting, they ask me about the bus route back to the strip, and I tell them (in detail) everything they need to know to get back there.

They also asked about various features of the hotels, which I was also able to help them with.

They mentioned where they were living, and I'd lived in the same city a while back, and was able to talk about their hometown in detail, as well.

The son joked, "Wait! Do you know everything?!?"

I simply joked back, "I try. I try."

The son obviously wanted to think of something to stump me. Truth be told, this wouldn't be difficult. I figured he was either going to ask something I couldn't know, like "What's my grandmother's maiden name?" or some impossible general-knowledge question like, "What was the population of Dallas, Texas in 1960?"

In what must've been the longest shot ever to happen in Las Vegas history, the question he comes up with was:

"What's the 136th digit after the decimal point in Pi?"

For those who don't understand why that's funny, I happen to know Pi to 400 digits from memory!

I thought for a minute and said, "2."

He laughed, and I explained, "I'm serious. I noticed you have an iPhone – look up 'Pi digits' on the web. The 135th digit is a 2, just like the 136th digit. It is immediately followed by the digits 3172."

He searched on his iPhone, found the site that showed the digits, went over to 136 digits, and everything was just as I said. He stared at me for almost a full minute, and was stunned that I could answer that!

The owner of the earring store didn't show up before they left, but they appreciated the time I spent, and gave me a $10 tip for making the time enjoyable!

:)

274 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:17:59am

re: #265 littleoldlady

/taps foot impatiently...

Sorry - it took a while to type it out!

It's up at #273 now!

275 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:18:29am

re: #266 Slumbering Behemoth

And on that note, I should probably knock off. Sort of like a late night "You've stayed up too late and drank too much" alarm clock.

Big hugs and kisses, LoL.

Later, Lizards.

G'Night, SB!

276 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:20:55am

re: #273 gmsc

"What's the 136th digit after the decimal point in Pi?"

Bwahahahahahaha!

/although I think for knowing that you should get much more than $10!

;-)

277 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:24:19am

re: #272 Pietr

No, what happened, Erik?

Ron Paul's insane cameo in the upcoming Bruno movie.

In a five-minute scene, comedian Cohen tries—and fails—to seduce the Texas congressman and former Republican presidential candidate in a Washington hotel room. A spokeswoman for Paul confirmed the appearance but declined to discuss details, which were provided by two people who attended a test screening last week.

278 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:25:18am

re: #276 littleoldlady

Bwahahahahahaha!

/although I think for knowing that you should get much more than $10!

;-)

Wasn't that almost too perfect?

10 million questions he could've asked to disprove I know everything – and he has to ask me about Pi!

At that point, I think I could've told them that the United States of America was located on Mars, and they would've at least seriously considered the possibility.

279 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:26:30am

Only In America

1. Only in America......can a pizza get to your house faster than an ambulance.

2. Only in America......are there handicap parking places in front of a skating rink.

3. Only in America......do drugstores make the sick walk all the way to the back of the store to get their prescriptions while healthy people can buy cigarettes at the front.

4. Only in America......do people order double cheese burgers, large fries, and a diet Coke.

5. Only in America......do banks leave both doors to the vault open and then chain the pens to the counters.

6. Only in America......do we leave cars worth thousands of dollars in the driveway and put our useless junk in the garage.

7. Only in America......do we use answering machines to screen calls and then have call waiting so we won't miss a call from someone we didn't want to talk to in the first place.

8. Only in America......do we buy hot dogs in packages of ten and buns in packages of eight.

9. Only in America......do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.

10. Only in America......do they have drive-up ATM machines with Braille lettering.

280 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:29:58am

re: #279 Erik The Red

9. Only in America......do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.

It also works with "expert". It's pronounced "x-spurt". What is x? In algebra, it refers to the unknown. What is a spurt? It's a drip of water under pressure.

Therefore, an "expert" is "an unknown drip, under pressure."

281 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:30:23am

Go look at the link in my #277 comment. It is very funny. Couldn't happen to a nicer person.

282 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:35:33am

re: #279 Erik The Red

10. Only in America......do they have drive-up ATM machines with Braille lettering.

There was a TV show on not long ago, where they were showing how ATMs work, as well as how they are made.

In one part of the factory, they make the buttons. The plant manager talks about how blind people need to be able to use ATMs, and that the law requires the Braille code to be on there.

The buttons then roll down a plant and are divided up and sent in 2 different directions. One part, he explains, goes to the part of the factory that makes regular walk-up ATMs, and the other makes the drive up ATMs.

The plant manager explains that it's more cost effective to make one set of keys for both styles of ATMs, and concludes, "And now you know the answer to one of the greatest mysteries of the universe – why drive-up ATM keys have Braille on them!"

283 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:37:31am

re: #282 gmsc

There was a TV show on not long ago, where they were showing how ATMs work, as well as how they are made.

In one part of the factory, they make the buttons. The plant manager talks about how blind people need to be able to use ATMs, and that the law requires the Braille code to be on there.

The buttons then roll down a plant and are divided up and sent in 2 different directions. One part, he explains, goes to the part of the factory that makes regular walk-up ATMs, and the other makes the drive up ATMs.

The plant manager explains that it's more cost effective to make one set of keys for both styles of ATMs, and concludes, "And now you know the answer to one of the greatest mysteries of the universe – why drive-up ATM keys have Braille on them!"

I'd give $10 just for that info:)

284 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:38:00am

re: #282 gmsc

It's like my Daddy used to say ..."There's always a reason!"

;-)

285 Ledger1  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:39:07am

Iowa Hawk skewers the Libs with Johnny Republico, notorious ant-tax rebel:

NARRATOR

…At 1102 we find the Baxters -- Mom and Pop, teen twins Bobby and Debbie, little Susie and Grandpa. A typical family who knows what it means to be an American. Why, here comes Gus the Mailman! ...How about that -- it's a mortgage bailout for Pop, an NEA grant for Mom's transgressive performance art collective... And for Gramps, a letter from Medicare -- they've finally approved that gender reassignment surgery he's always wanted.

It's first period American History at Anytown Chomsky High. Hey, it looks like there's a new face in class [Johnny] -- could it be the mysterious young stranger from Pinewood Lane?

…Bobby and Debbie notice that there's something just quite not right about Johnny. The air of contempt. The pasty complexion. The way he fidgets in his desk when when the teacher explains America's legacy of genocidal racism. During lunchtime in the school cafeteria, Bobby and Debbie see the new student Johnny sitting alone. They want to be friendly, and have been trained to be on the alert for potential Columbine-style loners and outcasts. So they decide to strike up a conversation with him -- but they're in for a big surprise.

DEBBIE

I'm Debbie Baxter, Bobby's twin sister. I'm varsity captain of the Eco Spirit-ettes. Go Polar Bears! Where did you say you came from, Johnny?

JOHNNY

Tex... heh, I mean, San Francisco. Yeah, that's it - San Francisco.

BOBBY

Look, Johnny…you've still got a chance to fit in. Why don't you join one of the after-school clubs? There's the Diversity Club, the Peace-a-longs, The Diversitarians, Feces Art Society, The Multidiversies...

DEBBIE

...don't forget the Multiculturalettes!
BOBBY

What do you say, Johnny? It'll be swell! And all our clubs have full federal funding…Johnny! Keep it down! Do you want the Hate Speech monitors to hear you? They could send you off to Juvie for that!

JOHNNY

Ha! There ain't no such thing as illegal speech.

BOBBY

What!? Says who?

JOHNNY

Sez dis. Johnny whips out a laminated card from his dungaree pocket, close up of the Constitution

NARRATOR

And so it begins. What Debbie and Bobby don't know is that "John Smith" is actually Johnny "Snake" Republico, secret agitator for the forces of International Constitutionalism -- the insidious extreme rightwing ideology that seeks to bring America to its knees by enslaving our helpless unsuspecting government… and stop it from giving you all the things that you want. It takes a strong will to resist the Consties' hypnotic sales pitch -- are Debbie and Bobby up to it?

DEBBIE

"In Congrefs"... what is this thing?

JOHNNY

Feast you baby blues on the Constitutionalist Manifesto. Dig this... I got the right to say what I want, pray how I want, assemble with anybody I want, nice and peaceable-like. It's all right there in Amendment numero uno!

BOBBY

Whoa, hold on there. Ms. Anderson says that kinda stuff is only for the Guantanamo prisoners!

NARRATOR

Against their better judgment... Bobby and Debbie Baxter decide to experiment with Constitutionalism...

MOM

Lights out, Debbie! Remember you have that big Patriarchy midterm tomorrow.

DEBBIE

Yes Mother. Oh Mother... can I borrow Grampa's makeup tomorrow? Johnny is taking me to the Spring Mandatory Sensitivity Grievance Hop tomorrow night.

MOM

Johnny Smith? That strange greasy rude boy your brother has been hanging around lately? Oh, Debbie, I'm just not sure...

DEBBIE

Please mother? ...I think putting on a little makeup will help raise Johnny's conscious about lookism

MOM

Well... alright. I don't suppose Grandpa will mind if you borrow a little of his rouge and mascara. But stay out of his gown closet, young lady! G'night.

AGENT OLSEN

…I'm afraid your children are in great danger. Republico matches every profile we have...male, military veteran, weirdly unenthusiastic about paying taxes...

Red scare

286 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:41:47am

re: #280 gmsc

It also works with "expert". It's pronounced "x-spurt". What is x? In algebra, it refers to the unknown. What is a spurt? It's a drip of water under pressure.

Therefore, an "expert" is "an unknown drip, under pressure."

You screwed it up, Amigo! It's ex, meaning former/previous; 'a former drip under pressure'.............

287 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:44:57am

re: #286 Pietr

You screwed it up, Amigo! It's ex, meaning former/previous; 'a former drip under pressure'.............

I've never heard the "former" version, and "former drip under pressure" doesn't seem to make much sense. If he's formerly a drip, what is he now? He's not a drip, but still under pressure?

"Unknown drip" at least makes it clear that the expert is aspiring to be a noted source on a topic.

288 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:46:32am

As They Say, "When Seconds Count, the Police Are Only Minutes Away": The Roanoke Times has the story, including the audio of a 911 call that "represents close to 13 minutes of conversation between [the homeowner], his wife and a 911 dispatcher"; it's not clear exactly what fraction of the 13 minutes was the time it took the police to respond, but it appears that it took many minutes for the police to arrive: "About seven and a half minutes after Hoover calls 911 [because Jones was outside shouting], Jones shatters the glass door with a wrought-iron chair and tries to come in." This may well not be the fault of the police, but it does reveal the value of private self-defense and not just of relying on the police.

Here's the summary,

In the 911 recording, Jody Hoover calls the sheriff's office and tells a dispatcher that there is a "strange man outside our home, and he's hollerin' and he's crying out. I don't know what's going on with him."

Hoover hands the phone to his wife while he gets his double-barreled, 12-gauge shotgun.

Jones can be heard yelling and repeatedly banging on the back sliding glass door.

Hoover's wife tells the dispatcher that the man is talking about Vietnam and 1969, and that he asked Jody Hoover for the date.

Hoover talks to the man from inside. "I don't want to hurt you," he says. "I can't let you in.

"Please, just go away. Please."

About seven and a half minutes after Hoover calls 911, Jones shatters the glass door with a wrought-iron chair and tries to come in.

Hoover told authorities that he shot at Jones twice. Deputies arrived at the house as the shots were fired. Jones was pronounced dead at Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital....

In 2005, Jones was found guilty in Botetourt County of brandishing a firearm and in 1999 and 2000 he was found guilty in Roanoke County of driving under the influence.

I should acknowledge that it's of course possible that, after this extremely drunk man broke the door with a chair, he wouldn't have hurt the residents (or at least wouldn't have hurt them much). We can't know what would have happened. But I'm glad that the Hoovers didn't have to run that risk.

Thanks to Hill Welford for the pointer.

289 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:46:47am

re: #285 Ledger1

Ledger! :-)

FABULOUS!

290 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:47:06am

Men say = Men really mean

I'm hungry = I'm hungry.

I'm sleepy = I'm sleepy.

I'm tired = I'm tired.

Do you want to go to a movie? = I'd eventually like to have sex with you.

Can I take you out to dinner? = I'd eventually like to have sex with you.

Can I call you sometime? = I'd eventually like to have sex with you.

May I have this dance? = I'd eventually like to have sex with you.

Nice dress! = Nice cleavage!

You look tense, let me give you a massage. = I want to fondle you.

What's wrong? = I don't see why your making such a big deal about this.

What's wrong? = What meaningless self-inflicted psychological trauma are you going through now?

What's wrong? = I guess sex tonight is out of the question.

I'm bored. = Do you want to have sex?

I love you. = Let's have sex now.

I love you, too. = Okay, I said it... we'd better have sex now!

Yes, I like the way you cut your hair. = I liked it better before.

Yes, I like the way you cut your hair. = $50 and it doesn't look that much different!

Let's talk. = I am trying to impress you by showing you that I am a deep person and maybe then you'd like to have sex with me.

Will you marry me? = I want to make it illegal for you to have sex with other guys.

(while shopping) I like that one better. = Pick any freakin' dress and let's go home!

I don't think that blouse and that skirt go well together. = I am gay.

291 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:50:36am

Things not to say to police officers

1. Sorry, Officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in.

2. Aren't you the guy from the Village People?

3. Hey, you must've been doin' about 125 mph to keep up with me. Good job!

4. Are You Andy or Barney?

5. I thought you had to be in good physical condition to be a police officer.

6. You're not gonna check the trunk, are you?

7. I pay your salary!

8. Gee, Officer! That's terrific. The last officer only gave me a warning, too!

9. Do you know why you pulled me over? Okay, just so one of us does.

10. I was trying to keep up with traffic. I know there are no other cars around. That's how far ahead of me they are.

11. When the Officer says "Gee Son....Your eyes look red, have you been drinking?" You probably shouldn't respond with, "Gee Officer your eyes look glazed, have you been eating doughnuts?"

292 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:51:26am

For Erik . . .

293 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:52:18am

30 Harsh Things a Woman can Say to a Naked Man
1. I've smoked fatter joints than that.
2. Ahhhh, it's cute.
3. Why don't we just cuddle?
4. You know they have surgery to fix that.
5. Make it dance.
6. Can I paint a smiley face on it?
7. Wow, and your feet are so big.
8. It's OK, we'll work around it.
9. Will it squeak if I squeeze it?
10. Oh no... a flash headache.
11. (giggle and point)
12. Can I be honest with you?
13. How sweet, you brought incense.
14. This explains your car.
15. Maybe if we water it, it'll grow.
16. Why is God punishing me?
17. At least this won't take long.
18. I never saw one like that before.
19. But it still works, right?
20. It looks so unused.
21. Maybe it looks better in natural light.
22. Why don't we skip right to the cigarettes?
23. Are you cold?
24. If you get me real drunk first.
25. Is that an optical illusion?
26. What is that?
27. It's a good thing you have so many other talents.
28. Does it come with an air pump?
29. So this is why you're supposed to judge people on personality.
30. I guess this makes me the 'early bird.

294 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:53:15am

re: #292 gmsc

LMAO.

295 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:53:38am

re: #290 Erik The Red

Do you have a large family? = Do you have a couple of hot sisters I can hit on if this doesn't work out?

296 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 2:58:32am

Wow-on a serious note, it seems BO and friends are trying to backdoor our 2nd Amendment rights, still. This comes complete with mandatory registration, license fees, etc.!

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

.It is registered
.You are fingerprinted
.You supply a current Driver's License
.You supply your Social Security #
.You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing
.Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25
- Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.


Gun Bill

297 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:01:27am

re: #296 Pietr

Wow-on a serious note, it seems BO and friends are trying to backdoor our 2nd Amendment rights, still. This comes complete with mandatory registration, license fees, etc.!

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

.It is registered
.You are fingerprinted
.You supply a current Driver's License
.You supply your Social Security #
.You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing
.Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25
- Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.

Gun Bill

BUY NOW.BUY LOTS.

298 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:01:37am

re: #212 gmsc

Payment Late? Lenders Can Remotely Disable Your Car

You just know that the government is salivating over this ability.

299 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:02:08am

re: #296 Pietr

That'll stop those pesky criminals........
But since it won't I'll do what I have to do to protect my homestead.

300 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:02:48am

Old man sitting on his front porch in Louisiana watching the sunrise sees the neighbor's kid walk by carrying something big under his arm.

He yells out, "Hey boy, whatcha got there?"

The boy yells back, "Roll of chicken wire."

The old man says, "What you gonna do with that?"

The boy says, "Catch some chickens."

The old man yells, "You damn fool, you can't catch chickens with chicken wire!"

The boy just laughs and keeps walking.

That evening at sunset the boy comes walking by and to the old man's surprise, he is dragging behind him the chicken wire with about 30 chickens caught in it.

At the same time the next morning, the old man is out watching the sunrise and he sees the boy walk by carrying something kind of round in his hand.

The old man yells out, "Hey boy, whatcha got there?"

The boy yells back, "Roll of duck tape."

The old man says, "What you gonna do with that?"

The boy says back, "Catch me some ducks."

The old man yells back, "You damn fool, you can't catch ducks with duck tape!"

The boy just laughs and keeps walking.

That night, around sunset, the boy walks by coming home and to the old man's amazement, he is trailing behind him the unrolled roll of duck tape with about 35 ducks caught in it.

At the same time the next morning, the old man sees the boy walking by carrying what looks like a long reed with something fuzzy on the end.

The old man says, "Hey boy, whatcha got there?"

The boy says, "It's a pussy willow."

The old man says "Hold on, I'll get my hat."

301 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:05:21am

Top ten things that sound dirty in golf but aren't...

10. Nuts...my shaft is bent.
9. After 18 holes I can barely walk.
8. You really whacked the hell out of that sucker.
7. Look at the size of his putter.
6. Keep your head down and spread your legs a bit more.
5. Mind if I join your threesome?
4. Stand with your back turned and drop it.
3. My hands are so sweaty I can't get a good grip.
2. Nice stroke, but your follow through has a lot to be desired.

And the number 1 thing that sounds dirty in golf but isn't:

1. Hold up...I need to wash my balls first.

302 gmsc  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:06:21am

Good night, all! I need to get some rest – especially this close to getting back to being 100%!

303 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:07:33am

re: #301 Erik The Red

Top ten things that sound dirty in golf but aren't...

10. Nuts...my shaft is bent.
9. After 18 holes I can barely walk.
8. You really whacked the hell out of that sucker.
7. Look at the size of his putter.
6. Keep your head down and spread your legs a bit more.
5. Mind if I join your threesome?
4. Stand with your back turned and drop it.
3. My hands are so sweaty I can't get a good grip.
2. Nice stroke, but your follow through has a lot to be desired.

And the number 1 thing that sounds dirty in golf but isn't:

1. Hold up...I need to wash my balls first.

Caddy : You want the driver ?
RD : He's not my type.

304 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:09:39am

8 things you'll never hear a man say:

8) Here honey, you use the remote.

7) You know, I'd like to see her again, but her breasts are just too big.

6) Ooh, Antonio Banderas AND Brad Pitt? That's one movie I gotta see!

5) While I'm up, can I get you anything?

4) Sex isn't that important, sometimes I just want to be held.

3) Aww, forget Monday night football, let's watch Melrose Place.

2) Hey, let me hold your purse while you try that on.

1) We never talk anymore.


8 things you'll never hear a woman say :

8) What do you mean today's our anniversary?

7) Can we not talk to each other tonight? I'd rather just watch TV.

6) Ohh, this diamond is way to big!

5) Can our relationship get a little more physical? I'm tired of being 'just friends'

4) Honey, does this outfit make my butt look too small?

3) Aww, don't stop for directions, I'm sure you'll be able to figure out how to get there.

2) I don't care if it's on sale, 300 dollars is way to much for a designer dress.

1) Hey, pull my finger!

305 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:10:16am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

I have to hit the road, too. :-(

Good day, ALL!™

306 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:11:58am

A priest and a rabbi found themselves sharing a compartment on a train.

After a while, the priest put down his book and opened a conversation by saying, "I know that in your religion, you're not supposed to eat pork... but have you really never even tasted it?"

The rabbi closed his newspaper and responded, "I must tell you the truth. Yes, I have, on the odd occasion."

The rabbi had his turn of interrogation: "I know that in your religion, you're supposed to be celibate, but..."

The priest interjected, "Yes, I know what you are going to ask, and yes, I have succumbed to temptation once or twice."

The two resumed their reading. It was silent for a while.

Then the rabbi peeked around his newspaper with a smile and said, "Better than pork, isn't it?"

307 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:12:11am

I smell bacon......I'm gone.
And no, I don't mean The Law.
Cya late, ETR.

308 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:14:12am

re: #307 SasquatchOnSteroids

I smell bacon......I'm gone.
And no, I don't mean The Law.
Cya late, ETR.

Later SOS. enjoy the bacon.

309 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:18:06am

The economy is so bad:

CEO's are now playing miniature golf.

Even people who have nothing to do with the Obama administration aren't paying their taxes.

Hotwheels and Matchbox stocks are trading higher than GM.

McDonalds is selling the 1/4 Ouncer

People in Beverly Hills fired their nannies and learned their children's names.

A truck of Americans got caught sneaking into Mexico .

The most highly-paid job is now jury duty.

People in Africa are donating money to Americans.

Motel Six won’t leave the light on.

The Mafia is laying off judges.

Congress says they are looking into the Bernard Madoff scandal. So, let’s see if I understand this correctly, the guy that made $50 billion disappear is being investigated by the people who made $750 billion disappear.

310 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:23:45am

Can this be true?Report: Israel Preparing Assault on Iran's Nuclear Sites

The Israeli military is preparing itself to launch a massive aerial assault on Iran's nuclear facilities within days of being given the go-ahead by its new government, the Times of London reported.

311 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:24:31am

re: #297 Erik The Red

Erik, every gun bought today is in the database-3 day approval and all that. That is why I find this scarey. It could criminalize peeps that don't get the word. It also is a direct VIOLATION of the 2nd Amendment opening, "Congress Shalll Make No Law".............

please note this excerpt, of the post:

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

.It is registered

312 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:38:13am
313 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:46:04am

re: #312 Tamron

HOSTAGE RESCUE DETAILS: OBAMA'S "DARING AND DECISIVE" BEHAVIOR -- FAIL


.

Wheeler is hardly a reliable or objective source of information.

314 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:47:10am

re: #312 Tamron

Jack Wheeler is the twisted bastard who viciously lied about McCain's time spent as a POW; claiming that he co-operated with the Viet Cong.

I wouldn't believe him if he was standing beside me, telling me he had a voice.

315 Tamron  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:47:44am

re: #313 SixDegrees

Wheeler is hardly a reliable or objective source of information.

Do you have anything better to offer, then?
.

316 Scorch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:47:54am

You Navy Tamron?

317 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:48:31am

PS: Here's my one post on the torture thread:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

318 Tamron  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:49:34am

re: #316 Scorch

You Navy Tamron?

Long time ago...

319 Scorch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:50:33am

re: #318 Tamron

Long time ago...

Same here A6 squadron from 72-75.

320 Scorch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:51:51am

re: #317 Salamantis

PS: Here's my one post on the torture thread:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Pouring water up that guys nose was very appropriate. What you doing up so early Sal?

321 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:51:54am

re: #315 Tamron

Do you have anything better to offer, then?
.

Why should I? I'm simply pointing out that your source is, shall we say, less than impeccable.

You're the one pasting stories, not me. I'm just suggesting that you find a more reputable source of information.

322 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:52:26am

I was an aviation antisubmarine warfare technician with the Navy during the Cold War. I was an inflight tech in P-3's and H-2's patrolling the eastern seaboard and the Gulf of Mexico tracking Soviet subs.

323 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:53:30am

re: #320 Scorch

Pouring water up that guys nose was very appropriate. What you doing up so early Sal?

Just felt like watching some old movies and sucking down some brews. It's the weekend; I can sleep in.

324 Scorch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:54:08am

re: #322 Salamantis

Quite a few old squids in here I've been noticing.

325 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:56:18am

re: #324 Scorch

Quite a few old squids in here I've been noticing.

'74 - '80 here.

326 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 3:58:01am

re: #323 Salamantis

Just felt like watching some old movies and sucking down some brews. It's the weekend; I can sleep in.

It's the weekend. so what else to do? Re your post you mentioned and the subject-why is it when we do anything, it's TORTURE; While what was done to our guys in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and especially today isn't even noted by any of the Geneva signatories, except us?

327 Scorch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:00:05am

re: #318 Tamron

Long time ago...

What was that aircraft designated you have in your avatar? They were being phased out when I was in and cant remember. CRS eating my lunch.

328 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:01:24am

re: #326 Pietr

It's the weekend. so what else to do? Re your post you mentioned and the subject-why is it when we do anything, it's TORTURE; While what was done to our guys in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and especially today isn't even noted by any of the Geneva signatories, except us?

I was also SAR - Sea Air Rescue. We got sent to SERE school, because if you're pulling a flyboy outta tha drink, there's a damn good chance it's during an engagement, and you're subject to capture.

I can't talk about what we went through in there, except to say that everything except the waterboarding was a helluva lot easier that what we saw.

329 Tamron  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:01:34am

I was visiting one of our carriers in the Gulf of Tonkin in mid-66 when they showed off a new squadron of A6's, launching to go drop some munitions up north. They had an admiral aboard, and were proudly showing him the latest and greatest.

The launch went well until the last A6 caught the catapult. When the hold-back coupling broke the plane took off OK, but the shock broke loose a 500-lb bomb which dropped onto the deck and slowly skidded along the angle deck behind the airplane, and it eventually went over the side into the water. We who were up on the railing looked at each other with raised eyebrows......

The admiral was not impressed.
.

330 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:04:48am

re: #328 Salamantis

I was also SAR - Sea Air Rescue. We got sent to SERE school, because if you're pulling a flyboy outta tha drink, there's a damn good chance it's during an engagement, and you're subject to capture.

I can't talk about what we went through in there, except to say that everything except the waterboarding was a helluva lot easier that what we saw.

When I went thru the E&E (escape and evasion) school at Ft Sill in '69, the trials we were given were peanuts to waterboarding and a caterpillar-just saying. I was Air Force-'65 to '87..........

331 Tamron  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:07:11am

re: #327 Scorch

What was that aircraft designated you have in your avatar? They were being phased out when I was in and cant remember. CRS eating my lunch.

EA3B Skywarrior (nicknamed the Whale) in VQ-1. Same squadron that lost the P3 to the Chinese on Hainan Island a few years ago. In 'Nam we specialized in pinpointing SAM missiles and such.
.

332 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:07:36am

re: #329 Tamron

I was visiting one of our carriers in the Gulf of Tonkin in mid-66 when they showed off a new squadron of A6's, launching to go drop some munitions up north. They had an admiral aboard, and were proudly showing him the latest and greatest.

The launch went well until the last A6 caught the catapult. When the hold-back coupling broke the plane took off OK, but the shock broke loose a 500-lb bomb which dropped onto the deck and slowly skidded along the angle deck behind the airplane, and it eventually went over the side into the water. We who were up on the railing looked at each other with raised eyebrows......

The admiral was not impressed.
.

I was on duty when a helo jockey flying over head doing a systems check on a bird fresh outta repairs pushed the wrong button and dropped his aux fuel tanks through the roof of the hangar bay.

We were all damn lucky they were empty. They cracked on the concrete tarmac but didn't explode.

The CO was not a happy puppy.

333 Scorch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:10:23am

re: #331 Tamron

Ah yes, thank you. We still had a couple of the old Vigilantes on the Forrestal on our last Med cruise. They hardly ever flew them though. Don't know how the crews stayed current.

334 Tamron  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:14:26am

re: #330 Pietr

When I went thru the E&E (escape and evasion) school at Ft Sill in '69, the trials we were given were peanuts to waterboarding and a caterpillar-just saying. I was Air Force-'65 to '87..........

I attended a 1-week survival school in the mountains out northeast of San Diego. No waterboarding, but they did stuff us into the "Black Box" for awhile. It was such a tight fit that they had to sit on the lid to latch it. I counted my breathing to pass the time away -- think I counted 128 very slow breaths before they let me out. Legs were numb and didn't work for awhile, but otherwise ok. We had a good time trying to catch rattlers to eat, the first 5 days.
.

335 Scorch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:15:18am

re: #332 Salamantis

LOL, lots of crazy stuff goes on out there that brings back chuckles decades later.

336 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:16:43am

re: #314 Salamantis

I wouldn't believe him if he was standing beside me, telling me he had a voice.

Don't know a thing about Weaver... but, that line is priceless.

337 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:18:01am

re: #336 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't know a thing about Weaver... but, that line is priceless.

Good Morning FBV.........don't run away, I'm gonna look for a link......

338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:23:22am

So, I am sitting here all snug under my blankie...cup of coffee. No lights on, chillin'. Wife just came in, turned on the kitchen light, turned on the light over me, turned on the TV (to the Today Show) sat her coffee down on the table (no coaster), gave the dog a "pupperoni" (I think she gives him too many) and looked at me and said, "I am going to go take a shower." and went back upstairs.

Was in here for less than three minutes, left the lights on, the TV blaring... sigh. I was having a really cool morning.

339 Scorch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:25:30am

re: #336 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't know a thing about Weaver... but, that line is priceless.


I don't know if that article is completely truthful or not but after seeing BHOs actions and comments over the last year it seems very likely he would have done just that and claimed responsibility for it's success and would have been ready to deny his participation if the rescue was a failure. Cannot stand people like him. Step up to the plate and be honest about it not this wishy washy crap he constantly pulls.

340 whiterasta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:27:30am

More BS from the Pirates:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

The world's powers refuse to do anything about them.

"Prosecuting detained pirates, that is simply not our business," said Cmdr. Achim Winkler of the EU mission Atalanta,...: How about you execute them on the spot?

"I think EU countries are concerned that if the pirates are convicted and spend time in prison, when they finish their sentence, they may not be able to send them back to Somalia,"

How about marooning them on an Antarctic Island? Why send them back to Somalia, where they can return to their old ways?

PC is going to be the end of the Civilized world.

Death to pirates, Arrrrgh, matey!

341 Scorch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:27:46am

re: #338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

ROFL now thats how to start a day. My wife is just the opposite. She is completely oblivious to all around her for at least 45 minutes after she wakes.

342 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:29:41am

re: #336 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay, Sir. I believe you read RW's reply to your eloquent plea to fellow lizards to pray/send best thoughts for him. I didn't know if you saw this post next day. I even tried to catch you to bring it to your attention, but this is the first chance I got. Please read, if you haven't already:

re: #839 realwest

343 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:39:15am

Here's the tale about the one time I received officiela Navy Discipline.

There was this one helo pilot we all affectionately called Shitcan, because he was so good we used to joke that you could put rotors on a shitcan and he could fly it. He also had a tendency to arrange to get busted back down every time he advances far enough to desk ride; he wanted to stay in the air where he belonged.

I was on a training flight out of Mayport NS, just east of Jax, with him, and we were flying over SE Georgia. We happened tp spot this couple just going at it on this blanket under a tree. Shitcan decided to drop down so we could get a closer look.

Well, he cracked the radome on a tree branch. He started saying ohshitohshit, then stopped and smiled; he'd thought of a plan.

He scoured the countryside until he spotted this litle farm with a chicken yard, and we touched down just over a hill from it. He snuck over the hill, grabbed a chicken, pounded it on the radome, and we went back to base hollering birdstrike.

Unfortunately for us, the farmer heard his chickens squawking, saw Shitcan running over the hill with one of his hens, and caught our call sign with his binoculars, then called us in.

I dunno what Shitcan said, but when they called me in, I clammed up. He was the guy they sent out to pull flyboys outta the drink, and I was the guy who went in after them, and he was the LAST fella I wanted pissed at me.

I got off with 30 days' confinement to quarters, and Shitcan lost a step - something he didn't mind one bit, since he'd just gotten promoted, yet again, to desk jockey rank.

344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:41:02am

re: #342 Pietr

I saw it. Thanks for ensuring that I saw it. Y'all are my buds. Want everyone happy, safe and healthy.

345 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:47:54am

re: #342 Pietr

Thank you for that cross-post. I missed the original.

/praying for you, RW, buddy!

346 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:53:27am

re: #340 whiterasta
They had the penalties for being a pirate right back in the old days. A long drop at the end of a short rope works pretty well to discourage piracy. Especially in this day and age where the pirates aren't in military grade ships and able to hide as easily as back then.

347 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 4:54:50am
348 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:01:02am

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you all to Hell!

349 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:01:04am

re: #346 Rustler

They had the penalties for being a pirate right back in the old days. A long drop at the end of a short rope works pretty well to discourage piracy. Especially in this day and age where the pirates aren't in military grade ships and able to hide as easily as back then.

They've had this problem in Indonesia, for much longer (20-30 yrs.)-not realy mentioned in the MFM. Funny thing-they seem to be mostly ROP pirates as well, IIRC................:>((

350 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:01:17am

re: #343 Salamantis
Rolf Pilots like that were my faves. We had a Captain(Army rank) who had just made Major and was set to fly a desk the next 3 years who in a stress test with a Chinook took out almost every seaside window in I believe it was the VIrginia beach Holiday in but coming in off the water full speed and pulling pitch to 180. I about crapped myself watching the building close in then we just shot back out over the water. Needless to say the pilot was reprimanded dropped off the major list and continued flying. This same pilot had previously lost his upcoming promotion when on a DART mission he was spotting by a female full bird dancing in his underware at the downed aircraft. It was his special Kabuki dance he learned in Japan. Any time an error couldn't be zeroed in on he would happily announce time to dance. Odd thing was I saw the damn dance work at least 2x with regards to untraceable avionics errors.

351 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:02:42am

re: #348 Who Watches the Watchmen?

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you all to Hell!

?

352 Tamron  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:03:47am

re: #339 Scorch

I don't know if that article is completely truthful or not but after seeing BHOs actions and comments over the last year it seems very likely he would have done just that and claimed responsibility for it's success and would have been ready to deny his participation if the rescue was a failure. Cannot stand people like him. Step up to the plate and be honest about it not this wishy washy crap he constantly pulls.


Noooo -- he'd never do that......

/sarc off

Talking about liberal presidents, I have a friend whose brother was in an Army Ranger unit whose specialty was night-operations, back during Clinton's Somali crisis (the real "Blackhawk Down" story). My friend said that his brother was really, really pissed at President Clinton, because his sister-team (the one that was decimated) was specifically ordered by Clinton, to go on their mission into Somalia DURING THE DAY. They repeatedly questioned his orders, stating that it would not be a difficult night op, but it would be a suicide mission if they went during daylight hours. Clinton specifically ordered them NOT to go at night (without saying why), and you know the rest of the story.

My friend said that his brother was really torn up over that, partly because he was one of the people who had to personally inform the families of the dead, that their spouses weren't coming back. He was ordered not to tell the families why it had really happened.

If the timing had been different it would have been his team that went in, instead of the other one. If I remember correctly, he resigned his commission right after that. He just couldn't follow Slick Willy.

Of course, Obama might be different.
.

353 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:04:26am

The window blow out was blamed on early am fog and Malfunctioning/progamming error on gps. We had to pull pitch like that to avoid ramming. His reprimand was for unsafe flying however the hotel thanked him for only taking out the windows instead of half the building.

354 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:06:53am

re: #352 Tamron
Clinton wanted the team in during the day because a night mission would have made it to hard to identify "innocents".

355 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:07:13am

re: #345 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Thank you for that cross-post. I missed the original.

/praying for you, RW, buddy!

Good Morning, VMP(1Lt)! You're welcome, and how are you on this dreary, Thunderstormy day (at least here in San Antonio)?

356 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:09:51am

Snowing in Golden, CO. Hope Walter has provisions.

357 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:11:35am

Clinton did a lot of messed up stuff like that. Just like his suspending Posse Comitatus for Wes Clark to be able to loan equipment and help Janet Reno plan Waco. Odd that Wes's career could hardly be concidered stellar up to that point and his advancement likely would have stopped after commanding the Cav without Slick Willy intervening to eventually grant him Command and Control in Kosovo. And letting the Sick that is Wes Clark order the bombing of Civilian areas to try and get Molosivich.

358 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:12:13am

re: #356 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Snowing in Golden, CO. Hope Walter has provisions.

Walter has lots of provisions; I just hope he has enough supplies.

/white smoke.....

359 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:14:53am

Btw Sorry I get really cheesed about most of the Crap Bill pulled while in orfice and Wes Clark has always been an example I used while training soldiers of someone who rose to the level of their incompetance and then got lucky finding a sponser.

360 J.D.  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:15:02am
...If the value of a cause can be measured by the loutishness of its enemies, the tea party cause must be great indeed.


Tea parties evoke media jeers
Protests were a success, given the loutishness of its enemies.

361 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:17:03am

Hey Pietr is the Kitty using a mini Kimber? It looks a lot like the Kimber .330 I was looking at but with a diff color scheme. One I was peeking at was Camo not Brushed aluminum.

362 Tamron  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:18:32am

re: #354 Rustler

Clinton wanted the team in during the day because a night mission would have made it to hard to identify "innocents".

ROFL -- wasn't that farmer's chicken an "innocent"? (If the farmer hadn't caught you in the act, how was the helo pilot going to explain a chicken bird-strike at an altitude of 1,500 feet?)

Good thing he didn't grab a pig instead of a chicken.
.

363 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:19:45am

re: #351 Pietr

?

Just captioning the photo at the top of the thread.

Good morning, Lizard Nation!

364 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:21:12am

re: #362 Tamron

Likely the blood and feathers woulda been the extent of the Investigation. If the farmer hadn't called it in a wild duck woulda likely been the assumed culperate.

365 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:22:09am

re: #361 Rustler

Hey Pietr is the Kitty using a mini Kimber? It looks a lot like the Kimber .330 I was looking at but with a diff color scheme. One I was peeking at was Camo not Brushed aluminum.

I have no idea, Rustler. It's a pic I had and lost after a system crash, so I looked for a replacement one. It is also the only one that LGF would let me load, tho the others met all parameters, Heh heh.

366 Tamron  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:24:04am

re: #364 Rustler

Likely the blood and feathers woulda been the extent of the Investigation. If the farmer hadn't called it in a wild duck woulda likely been the assumed culperate.

Take a guess what the highest-altitude bird strike ever was?
.

367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:24:31am

re: #366 Tamron

Oooh! I want to know. I was in one once.

368 opnion  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:24:53am

re: #360 J.D.

Tea parties evoke media jeers
Protests were a success, given the loutishness of its enemies.

Good morniong all. Jeanine Garafalo put the Tea Parties in perspective with Olberman. According to her thisi s not about taxes or spending. They are about a black man in the White House.. "It's racism, staight up"
And she knows that how?
You know the joke, you are strnded on an island with Pelosi & Garafolo.
You have a gun with one bullit, who do you shoot? Why, yourself of course.

369 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:25:07am

re: #364 Rustler

Likely the blood and feathers woulda been the extent of the Investigation. If the farmer hadn't called it in a wild duck woulda likely been the assumed culperate culprit.

I'll say better, rather than FTFY...don't want Goddessoftheclassroom having to correct ya'......:>))

370 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:26:35am

re: #366 Tamron

Take a guess what the highest-altitude bird strike ever was?
.

37,000 feet?

371 J.D.  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:29:10am

re: #368 opnion

"It's racism, staight up"

I saw that.
Such a brilliant mind...Janine Garafalo...

372 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:31:12am

re: #366 Tamron

25,000?

373 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:31:57am

re: #371 J.D.

I saw that.
Such a brilliant mind...Janine Garafalo...

Isn't she supposed to be a Comedian, like Al Franken? Seems strange, they move to straight jobs because they can't make it as comedians, and the straight jobs become a JOKE-on us, unfortunately.

374 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:32:32am

Mornin'......

375 J.D.  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:33:17am

re: #366 Tamron

3,200

376 opnion  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:33:47am

re: #371 J.D.

I saw that.
Such a brilliant mind...Janine Garafalo...

She is not funny. Ok, once in the
Cable Guy. At Medieval Times she says, "I'll be your serving wench.'
That's about it.

377 Tamron  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:34:05am

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oooh! I want to know. I was in one once.

Wikipedia has this to say:

"...However, bird strikes have also been reported at high altitudes, some as high as 6,000 m (19,685 ft) to 9,000 m (29,528 ft) above the ground. Bar-headed geese have been seen flying as high as 10,175 m (33,383 ft) above sea level. An aircraft over the Côte d'Ivoire collided with a Rüppell's Vulture at the astonishing altitude of 11,300 m (37,073 ft), the current record avian height."


Amazing. What in hell took that vulture 7 miles up, anyway? Chasing an alien cadaver?
.

378 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:34:43am

re: #374 vxbush

Mornin'......

G'morning, Vx....Coffee, or Irish Coffee?

379 opnion  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:34:50am

re: #373 Pietr

Isn't she supposed to be a Comedian, like Al Franken? Seems strange, they move to straight jobs because they can't make it as comedians, and the straight jobs become a JOKE-on us, unfortunately.

She seems like an unhappy, bitter woman.

380 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:35:13am

re: #378 Pietr

G'morning, Vx....Coffee, or Irish Coffee?


Neither. Tea. Black. Two sugars.

381 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:35:21am

re: #366 Tamron
Canada goose around 50k feet during migration I think it was.

382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:35:47am

re: #376 opnion

I saw her stand-up once. Was actually pretty funny. She lost her freakin' mind later, but, she used to be funny.

She used to have a cute Natalie Merchant thing going on. I was actually a fan. Now she's all tatted and icky looking.

383 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:36:03am

re: #377 Tamron

Amazing. What in hell took that vulture 7 miles up, anyway? Chasing an alien cadaver?
.

Since I only missed by 73 feet, does that mean I win?

/white smoke...

384 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:36:45am

re: #380 vxbush

Neither. Tea. Black. Two sugars.

Green tea, or orange pekoe blend?

385 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:36:58am

I was in a plane going into Denver. Bird strike, over 20K.

386 Sizzlack  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:37:43am

re: #371 J.D.

I saw that.
Such a brilliant mind...Janine Garafalo...

Seriously...who thought putting on a washed up comic from the early '90s to give political commentary would be worthwhile?

That's like asking Gallagher his thoughts on human rights while the guy is smashing watermelons.

387 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:37:48am

re: #384 Pietr

Green tea, or orange pekoe blend?

Either, but I prefer Black Pekoe. Dark. Irish Breakfast, English Teatime. Good, solid teas. None of that Earl Grey nonsense.

388 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:37:51am

re: #381 Rustler
Wow I was way over.

389 opnion  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:37:53am

re: #382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I saw her stand-up once. Was actually pretty funny. She lost her freakin' mind later, but, she used to be funny.

She used to have a cute Natalie Merchant thing going on. I was actually a fan. Now she's all tatted and icky looking.

You are right, her stand up used to be pretty good.
Something went wrong, she seems very bitter & irrational.

390 J.D.  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:37:53am

re: #373 Pietr

We got Dennis Miller, though.
And at least he isn't clueless.

391 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:38:33am

re: #386 Sizzlack

Seriously...who thought putting on a washed up comic from the early '90s to give political commentary would be worthwhile?

That's like asking Gallagher his thoughts on human rights while the guy is smashing watermelons.

Actually, I would have said something along the lines of making him a chef on Hell's Kitchen, given his watermelon issues....

392 Sizzlack  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:38:58am

re: #389 opnion

You are right, her stand up used to be pretty good.
Something went wrong, she seems very bitter & irrational.

Yea...the '90s ended.

393 Tamron  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:39:04am

re: #383 Pietr

Since I only missed by 73 feet, does that mean I win?

/white smoke...


Hell, you musta peeked.
.

394 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:39:41am

re: #390 J.D.

We got Dennis Miller, though.
And at least he isn't clueless.

9/11 brought Dennis Miller into the fold of sanity....

395 opnion  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:39:54am

re: #390 J.D.

We got Dennis Miller, though.
And at least he isn't clueless.

Miller isa very thoughful guy & expresses himself well with humor.

396 opnion  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:40:49am

re: #392 Sizzlack

Yea...the '90s ended.

She must have freaked when she got the memo.

397 J.D.  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:42:02am

re: #376 opnion

She is not funny. Ok, once in the
Cable Guy. At Medieval Times she says, "I'll be your serving wench.'
That's about it.


At best, she was mildly amusing. Funny... I think not.

398 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:42:17am

re: #387 vxbush

Either, but I prefer Black Pekoe. Dark. Irish Breakfast, English Teatime. Good, solid teas. None of that Earl Grey nonsense.

Okay, here you go, went with a mixture of green and orange pekoe. I'll let you spoon the sugar to taste tho.....:>))

399 Sizzlack  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:42:23am

re: #396 opnion

She must have freaked when she got the memo.

I always lumped her into the category with people like Paulie Shore, Andy Dick, David Allen Grier...

Funny people who are just stuck in one particular decade.

It really is amazing that in 2009 there is anyone at all that cares what Janine Garafalo has to say.

400 Sizzlack  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:42:52am

re: #399 Sizzlack

*Previously funny people rather.

401 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:44:03am

re: #393 Tamron

Hell, you musta peeked.
.

Did not! Odd factoids stick into my grey cells like sand burrs, so I'm always happy to throw 'em out.....:>))

402 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:44:13am
403 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:44:31am

re: #399 Sizzlack Adam Sandler probably should go in that group too his more recent stuff has been lacking At least for me. About the only newer flick he's been in I enjoyed was Chuck and Larry.

404 J.D.  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:44:31am

re: #386 Sizzlack

Seriously...who thought putting on a washed up comic from the early '90s to give political commentary would be worthwhile?

That's like asking Gallagher his thoughts on human rights while the guy is smashing watermelons.

It didn't work out very well, did it.

I think she is bitter.

405 opnion  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:45:35am

re: #399 Sizzlack

I always lumped her into the category with people like Paulie Shore, Andy Dick, David Allen Grier...

Funny people who are just stuck in one particular decade.

It really is amazing that in 2009 there is anyone at all that cares what Janine Garafalo has to say.


She takes herself way too seriously. It was outrageous that she labled the Tea Party people racists. I saw it in Chicgo & the Blacks attending must be self loathing , if Garafalo is right.

406 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:45:41am

re: #398 Pietr

Okay, here you go, went with a mixture of green and orange pekoe. I'll let you spoon the sugar to taste tho.....:>))

[deep breathing over the tea]

Oh, that's good. Thank you, good sir! I hope your day is going well.

407 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:47:18am

re: #406 vxbush

[deep breathing over the tea]

Oh, that's good. Thank you, good sir! I hope your day is going well.

Likewise, for you. The thunder and lightning is gone for now, but I could still lose power.........

408 Sizzlack  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:48:49am

re: #405 opnion

It still blows my mind that someone out there wanted specifically her opinion on the tea parties. Well while we're at it let's get Damon Waynes, Joey from Friends and the Shamwow guy to tell us their thoughts on the issues of the day, as I am dying to know.

409 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:49:07am

re: #407 Pietr

Likewise, for you. The thunder and lightning is gone for now, but I could still lose power.........

Do be careful, then. I thought it was supposed to be sunny here, but looking at the forecast just now they're showing lots of rain later today.

I really wish the forecast could be better predicted for more than one day. I can't count how many times lately the forecast going out two days has been wrong.

410 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:49:41am

Good morning.

The market completed a 6th straight week of gains yesterday.

It is not "happy days are here again" time yet, but I think the market has stabilized.

411 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:50:02am
412 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:50:55am

re: #410 3 wood

Good morning.

The market completed a 6th straight week of gains yesterday.

It is not "happy days are here again" time yet, but I think the market has stabilized.

Good morning, 3 wood. The economic news is welcome indeed, even if all it means is that we aren't going to fall any further off the cliff.

You are well, I hope?

413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:52:59am

re: #394 Pietr

9/11 brought Dennis Miller into the fold of sanity....

IIRC it also did it to someone who stared a little blog.

414 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:53:12am
415 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:53:40am

re: #410 3 wood

Mornin' Wood! How's it?

Take over for me. Gotta get ready to sing for a funeral.

416 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:54:01am

Anyone Else hear that Obama is Appointing a Fannie Mae head to look over distribution of Trap assets?

417 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:55:23am
418 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:56:03am
419 opnion  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:56:05am

Anybody find it odd, that in the recently released DHS Report that, the assertion is that single isssue citizen might turn to" trrorism," but DHS employees are advised not to refer to the Islamists as terrorists?

420 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:57:00am

re: #416 Rustler

Anyone Else hear that Obama is Appointing a Fannie Mae head to look over distribution of Trap assets?

Why is it that when I heard this the first time I got the strong impression that TARP would end up being a semi-government entity like Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and then suddenly the leadership of TARP would star to draw yearly bonuses?

421 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:57:29am

re: #415 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mornin' Wood! How's it?

Take over for me. Gotta get ready to sing for a funeral.

Go sing real purty. Give the family a good memory.

422 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:57:51am

re: #389 opnion

You are right, her stand up used to be pretty good.
Something went wrong, she seems very bitter & irrational.

Bitter and irrational are the New Black in the entertainment world. See Sarah Vowell, and to a lesser extent David Sedaris, for examples.

423 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:58:23am

re: #420 vxbush

PIMF: star => start

424 Rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:58:46am

Here is an Article from an Obama update site on it.

And the first paragraph.

Obama is expected to tap Fannie Mae Chief Executive Herb Allison to head up the government's $700 billion financial rescue program, the Wall Street Journal is reporting. The appointment of Allison--a former TIAA-CREF chairman and former Merrill Lynch exec-- comes at a time when the administration has had a hard time filling top finance posts.
425 alegrias  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:59:04am

re: #408 Sizzlack

It still blows my mind that someone out there wanted specifically her opinion on the tea parties. Well while we're at it let's get Damon Waynes, Joey from Friends and the Shamwow guy to tell us their thoughts on the issues of the day, as I am dying to know.

* * * *
The Shamwow guy at least is working for living and offering something useful--Slapchopping fresh vegetables & fruit can make you skinny and increase your healthy fresh food intake.

Garofalo only offers stale putrid hate to her audience.

426 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 5:59:36am

re: #424 Rustler

Here is an Article from an Obama update site on it.

And the first paragraph.

Of course, it would help if Obama would actually nominate people to fill said posts and that those people don't have tax problems.

427 Sizzlack  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:00:54am

re: #425 alegrias

I think the Shamwow guy was just involved in an incident with a hooker in a hotel room no?

Perhaps he took slap chop a little too seriously.

428 alegrias  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:01:20am

re: #416 Rustler

Anyone Else hear that Obama is Appointing a Fannie Mae head to look over distribution of Trap assets?

* * *
Not yet, but Fannie Mae's current head was only named last September or so, and wasn't necessarily part of the worst mortgage backed securities excesses of the Clinton era.

429 alegrias  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:03:25am

re: #424 Rustler

Here is an Article from an Obama update site on it.

And the first paragraph.

* * * *
Current FannieMae director Herb Allison was John McCain's campaign finance director in McCain's 1999-2000 presidential bid.

PS, Herb Allison is a Vietnam Veteran and a good guy.

430 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:05:26am

re: #426 vxbush

Of course, it would help if Obama would actually nominate people to fill said posts and that those people don't have tax problems.

I'm expecting to see one of my relatives in a high position at Treasury soon. They made a mistake and underpaid last year's taxes, so they're obviously qualified.
/

431 tfc3rid  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:06:07am

All right... So let's make this clear... We are telling the world our interrogation techniques....

Obama is apologizing all over Europe...

Obama hugs, smiles, messes with Thugo Chavez...

We're so fucking dead... This idiot and the bleeps who put him in office are the touchy feeley idiots who will be killed by the very thugs we cozy up to.

We are not a moral nation when our president cozies up to thugs and killers and ruthless dictators... We are just like them... And I will not live in a nation like that...

432 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:06:32am

re: #430 lurking faith

I'm expecting to see one of my relatives in a high position at Treasury soon. They made a mistake and underpaid last year's taxes, so they're obviously qualified.
/

LOL! Don't you sometimes wonder if they're just looking on the unpaid or underpaid tax list and upon seeing a name then say, "That's who we need! Someone willing to cheat to lead our nation!"

433 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:07:16am

Pumpkin Boy's throwing another tantrum.

I guess he's feeling ronery again.

434 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:07:54am

Good Morning Lizards! What a beautiful day in Indiana...
How is everyone?

435 rustler  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:08:30am

Careful all after trying to close the linked article had a popup bomb go off.

436 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:08:36am

re: #434 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! What a beautiful day in Indiana...
How is everyone?

Doing better. Good to see you this moring. You are well, I hope? And what will you do for entertainment now that the NCAA tournament and basketball season are over?

437 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:08:57am
438 tfc3rid  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:09:31am

re: #437 taxfreekiller

Mexico got the corruption going strong.
Obama likes what he sees, attempting to emulate what he likes.

Hugo
Fidel

pattern

Dictators one and all...

439 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:11:40am

re: #436 vxbush

Doing better. Good to see you this moring. You are well, I hope? And what will you do for entertainment now that the NCAA tournament and basketball season are over?

Good to see ya VX! The neat thing about being a sports nut is it never ends..
Starting today is the NBA playoffs for the next 2 months..
Hope today finds you well

440 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:11:56am

re: #431 tfc3rid

Where you gonna go? Mars/Venus

441 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:12:46am

re: #439 HoosierHoops

Good to see ya VX! The neat thing about being a sports nut is it never ends..
Starting today is the NBA playoffs for the next 2 months..
Hope today finds you well

Spurs, FTW............

442 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:13:20am

Morning all.

Saw this story in this morning's paper. Any chance he isn't a moonbat?

"JOURNAL WIRE REPORT Published: April 18, 2009 ■ Actor Val Kilmer is trying to sell his ranch near Santa Fe, N.M., putting his nearly 6,000-acre ranch on the market for $33 million. A buyer would get almost six miles of Pecos River frontage, a fishery and a wildlife habitat that includes bears and bobcats. The ranch has a Southwest-style main house of nearly 5,600 square feet and a smaller caretaker's home, as well as other guest homes, barns, garages and outbuildings. Kilmer, 49, has lived in New Mexico more than 20 years and has had the ranch for about 13 years. Kilmer has said he is considering a run for governor of New Mexico next year. His screen credits include Top Gun, Batman Forever, Tombstone and The Doors."

443 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:13:31am

re: #434 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! What a beautiful day in Indiana...
How is everyone?

Hey 2H. A beaut of a day here in Durban also. Sitting by the pool watching cricket and I just poured my first scotch 3 sips ago. :)

444 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:13:47am

re: #439 HoosierHoops

Good to see ya VX! The neat thing about being a sports nut is it never ends..
Starting today is the NBA playoffs for the next 2 months..
Hope today finds you well

Heh. Hubby is just not into pro basketball. He just gets annoyed by it. Can't say I blame him. Of course, I like watching figure skating; he doesn't. He watches golf; I fall asleep. I enjoy volleyball and swimming and tennis; he leaves the room.

We're having a sports compatibility issue. :D

445 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:13:57am

re: #412 vxbush

You are well, I hope?


Had to go walk the dog.

Can't complain.

And you, has your health been hanging in there?

446 alegrias  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:14:06am

re: #431 tfc3rid

All right... So let's make this clear... We are telling the world our interrogation techniques....

Obama is apologizing all over Europe...

Obama hugs, smiles, messes with Thugo Chavez...

We're so fucking dead... This idiot and the bleeps who put him in office are the touchy feeley idiots who will be killed by the very thugs we cozy up to.

We are not a moral nation when our president cozies up to thugs and killers and ruthless dictators... We are just like them... And I will not live in a nation like that...

* * * *
Please get a grip. You're sounding extreme--extremely depressed that is. Try to think like a patriot who isn't giving up, or a hostage. Your job is to stay alive, maintain your sanity, and help vote someone else in at the earliest opportunity.

447 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:14:30am

re: #432 vxbush

LOL! Don't you sometimes wonder if they're just looking on the unpaid or underpaid tax list and upon seeing a name then say, "That's who we need! Someone willing to cheat to lead our nation!"

Looks that way sometimes, doesn't it? I reckon they want to make sure they appoint people with the proper contempt for the fair application of rules.
Taxes for thee, but not for me.

448 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:15:23am

re: #414 taxfreekiller

3- Wood

Did you get my question on FNF, Fidility National Financial, the Title Ins. Underwritter.

Why are they going for stock sale now on $1.1 Billion , to pay down debt
when the rates are so low.

the boss paid himself $180,000,000 last year, he is an over bearing ass,
he does deals just to make himself look big and is spending their earnings on big dev.'s in Monatana and Washington States,
What's up with that?

I did not see your question, sorry, but I'll check into it and let you know.

449 tfc3rid  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:15:37am

re: #440 Erik The Red

Where you gonna go? Mars/Venus

No but my patience is running real thin... What is our national identity to the World?

We're the governmental equivalent of a Metrosexual.

450 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:16:04am

re: #445 3 wood

Had to go walk the dog.

Can't complain.

And you, has your health been hanging in there?

No, but I go back to the doctor on Monday to see what the latest rounds of tests say, and I'm hoping that a treatment plan will be developed. Going wheat-free has helped, but it hasn't taken care of some problems. Eh. I had a good day yesterday with lots of energy, and that was nice.

451 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:16:13am

re: #443 Erik The Red

Hey 2H. A beaut of a day here in Durban also. Sitting by the pool watching cricket and I just poured my first scotch 3 sips ago. :)

Hey Eric! I'm going to open up the pool on the first if the weather continues to get better..I miss swimming laps and floating around on a hot day with a cold beer...

452 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:17:06am

re: #447 lurking faith

Looks that way sometimes, doesn't it? I reckon they want to make sure they appoint people with the proper contempt for the fair application of rules.
Taxes for thee, but not for me.

Ah, that's it. A contempt for the rules.

453 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:17:21am

re: #451 HoosierHoops

Hey Eric! I'm going to open up the pool on the first if the weather continues to get better..I miss swimming laps and floating around on a hot day with a cold beer...

Being lazy

FTFY

454 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:17:25am

re: #451 HoosierHoops

Hey Eric! I'm going to open up the pool on the first if the weather continues to get better..I miss swimming laps and floating around on a hot day with a cold beer...

Depending on how far away you live, I may have to visit you; I miss swimming laps.

455 tfc3rid  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:18:51am

re: #446 alegrias

* * * *
Please get a grip. You're sounding extreme--extremely depressed that is. Try to think like a patriot who isn't giving up, or a hostage. Your job is to stay alive, maintain your sanity, and help vote someone else in at the earliest opportunity.

How is it extreme... I do not agree with what our government is doing from a standpoint if morality... Does this all appear to make immoral governments happy? Of course it does...

We are the shining City on a hill but our current leaders do not believe that and are showing all that is the case....

To me, it is not extreme... It's frustration that something so many of my familiy members have worked for defending is being slowly snuffed out to fulfill a radical ideology...

456 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:19:22am

I'll refer all back to a SERIOUS post I made earlier. I'd appreciate it if someone makes sure Lawhawk, realwest, and OR see it to check out-plus any other legal eagles we may have. this is the post:


re: #296 Pietr

457 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:22:05am

re: #454 vxbush

Depending on how far away you live, I may have to visit you; I miss swimming laps.

That would be fun..We have a hot tub too...I usually get a boat load of suite tickets for fast friday at the track..Maybe you and the hubby can come hang out..They always have a great free concert..Kid Rock was great last year

458 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:25:14am

re: #442 lincolntf

He's been considering it for at least a year. At least, it's been mentioned on and off in infotainment news at least since early in 2008. (I recall him saying if Reagan and Schwarzenegger could do it, why not him? And that at least he could pronounce the name of his state correctly.)

IIRC, Bill Richardson is being term-limited out at the next election, so the governorship is wide open.

I'm pretty sure Kilmer's a Dem, but I don't know if he's a moonbat. (Nature conservancy in a westerner does not automatically signal L3-hood.)

459 alegrias  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:26:08am

re: #455 tfc3rid

How is it extreme... I do not agree with what our government is doing from a standpoint if morality... Does this all appear to make immoral governments happy? Of course it does...

We are the shining City on a hill but our current leaders do not believe that and are showing all that is the case....

To me, it is not extreme... It's frustration that something so many of my familiy members have worked for defending is being slowly snuffed out to fulfill a radical ideology...

* * * *
Remember the Navy motto: Don't Give Up the Ship.

The US people are not all on board with everything that's happening right now. It's been less than 100 days. We can not give up and lose hope in the majority of Americans who by and large agree America is a special place with special values we uphold--that other countries such as Hugo Chavez' and Castro Brothers DO NOT.

We have not lowered ourselves to lawless dictatorship of property redistributing political apparatchiks.

Demoralizing others here, saying we are all dead, is distinctly unhelpful, however therapeutic for you personally--doesn't make it true. If you care about being moral, how about lifting morale or doing something that better reflects your highest values, than tearing down all Americans right now?

460 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:26:31am
461 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:27:59am
462 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:28:53am

re: #458 lurking faith

He's been considering it for at least a year. At least, it's been mentioned on and off in infotainment news at least since early in 2008. (I recall him saying if Reagan and Schwarzenegger could do it, why not him? And that at least he could pronounce the name of his state correctly.)

IIRC, Bill Richardson is being term-limited out at the next election, so the governorship is wide open.

I'm pretty sure Kilmer's a Dem, but I don't know if he's a moonbat. (Nature conservancy in a westerner does not automatically signal L3-hood.)

What happened to Val? He used to be so rugged and handsome looking..
He has gotten overweight and what is the word? Frumpy?
Sad really...He needs to eat less and work out more..He looks terrible..
Sorry to say that about him..But it is sad

463 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:29:38am

re: #458 lurking faith

6 miles of riverfront with bears and bobcats on the property? He might be Teddy Roosevelt. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

464 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:30:14am

re: #462 HoosierHoops

Oh, pooh! We all get older and uglier. Hell, he's what? 50? Not everyone stays all fit and purdy like the hoopster.

465 albusteve  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:30:59am

re: #458 lurking faith

He's been considering it for at least a year. At least, it's been mentioned on and off in infotainment news at least since early in 2008. (I recall him saying if Reagan and Schwarzenegger could do it, why not him? And that at least he could pronounce the name of his state correctly.)

IIRC, Bill Richardson is being term-limited out at the next election, so the governorship is wide open.

I'm pretty sure Kilmer's a Dem, but I don't know if he's a moonbat. (Nature conservancy in a westerner does not automatically signal L3-hood.)

I believe Val is a donk

466 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:31:01am
467 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:32:13am

re: #414 taxfreekiller

3- Wood

Did you get my question on FNF, Fidility National Financial, the Title Ins. Underwritter.

Why are they going for stock sale now on $1.1 Billion , to pay down debt
when the rates are so low.

Here's why taxfree. Paying the interest on bonds is a firm obligation the company must make as required or else they are in default.

Paying dividends on common stock equity is optional, it you don't have it you don't pay it. Long story short, they have some doubts about their ability to pay interest regularly long term.

In fact they say they are going to use some of the proceeds from the stock issuance to pay off existing debt.

Fidelity National Financial Ups The Offering Ante (FNF)

The company has said that the net proceeds are for general corporate purposes, including the potential repayment of indebtedness under its existing $1.1 billion credit agreement.


I would view this as a negative signal from the management about the future.

468 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:33:46am

re: #464 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, pooh! We all get older and uglier. Hell, he's what? 50? Not everyone stays all fit and purdy like the hoopster.

I thought that post might be misunderstood..
Let's put it like this..If you are a major movie star... sure you get older but for god's sake move away from the table sometimes...
/should I shut up now?

469 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:34:49am
470 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:35:00am

re: #468 HoosierHoops

Move away from the table? May I quote Thurston Howell the Third?

"Oh, Lovie. What you said!"

471 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:36:55am

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (53 degrees, going up to 77 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning, well I hope!

472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:37:03am

I am so much better at Geography than I was a couple of weeks ago. Those internet Geography games are great. I am embarrassed that I knew so little about our little blue marble.

473 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:37:16am

re: #471 realwest

YAY!

474 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:38:04am

re: #471 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (53 degrees, going up to 77 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning, well I hope!

Hey Realwest! hope you are well today..Who should we trash today bro? LOL

475 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:38:55am

re: #471 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (53 degrees, going up to 77 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning, well I hope!

Morning rw. Great news about your test results.

476 albusteve  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:39:16am

re: #463 lincolntf

6 miles of riverfront with bears and bobcats on the property? He might be Teddy Roosevelt. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

I'm curious as to why he's selling...that is prime real estate up there, and it is very difficult to come by...there are just a few rivers that run year round...I wonder if he is short of money

477 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:39:27am
478 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:40:14am
479 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:40:50am

re: #470 Fat Bastard Vegetarian HEY YOU! I've been looking all over the place to find you out here!
Thank you SO MUCH for your post about folks praying for me and for sending up best wishes or whatever if they didn't believe in praying. I can't begin to tell you how great the response was - heck, you got a +63 or so for your comment and I got LOTS of prayers, wishes for good luck, e-mails and - best of all - cancer test (PSA) scores that don't put me in the danger zone yet!
I just had to thank you - yeah we don't really"know" each other as in face-to-face friends, but I still think of you as a friend I haven't yet met!
Thanks again FBV - that was very thoughtful and very nice of you and it was most appreciated by me!

480 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:42:11am

re: #479 realwest

Oh, shucks. You are the only friends I get to spend hours with. I care no less for you guys than my non-virtual friends.

481 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:42:37am

re: #471 realwest
Good morning my friend! Was out in BFE on business. Missed your doctor report, the mass Paulian meltdown, etc...

482 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:43:19am

re: #471 realwest

How is everyone doing this morning, well I hope!

I'm doing great my friend! I am still "over the moon" about your good health news of the other day.

Things are great here. I took the Mrs. dancing last night and we are just getting ready to go run some errands so I might be leaving quickly for a while.

483 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:43:21am

re: #479 realwest

Veggie is good people..Thanks for that man..
also I think the Goddess's prayer list gets special attention upstairs with the Man..Seen a lot of miracles from it

484 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:43:31am

re: #474 HoosierHoops
and
re: #475 Erik The Red
Thank you both! I don't feel like trashing anyone today, though I'm sure that will change as the day is young! LOL!
How are you each doing?

485 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:43:43am

re: #462 HoosierHoops

What happened to Val? He used to be so rugged and handsome looking..
He has gotten overweight and what is the word? Frumpy?
Sad really...He needs to eat less and work out more..He looks terrible..
Sorry to say that about him..But it is sad

Yeah, it's sad. He used to be scrumptious-looking. But some people just don't age prettily - think Robert Redford. Even if Kilmer got back in shape, he'd still look sorta odd.

486 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:44:49am

re: #485 lurking faith
Nancy Wilson turned into a pumpkin. So sad.

487 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:45:31am

re: #461 taxfreekiller

Kilmer is a person who gave to Ralph Nadar's run for Pres.

not just your average moon bat,

A Nader supporter? That's very bad.

488 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:45:56am

re: #485 lurking faith

Yeah, it's sad. He used to be scrumptious-looking. But some people just don't age prettily - think Robert Redford. Even if Kilmer got back in shape, he'd still look sorta odd.

And most people can't fight their genetic predispositions, no matter how well they diet or work out.

489 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:46:32am

re: #486 pingjockey

Nancy Wilson turned into a pumpkin. So sad.

Last night i posted about the Wilson Sisters. I used to have a major crush on them when i was a kid...Now? ouch?

490 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:46:59am

From AP:
Heavy Debate on Torture Memos

"The Obama Administration delayed release of the classified Bush era memos for nearly a month partly because of strenous objections from FOUR form CIA chiefs who warned the release would compromise intelligence operations."

"President Barack Obama ultimately overruled those objections."

Well isn't that special? Compromising intelligence operations and kissing up to Castro and Chavez in the same week. How much damage can this guy do in 100 days let alone 4 years?

O'Reilly still think Obama has the best interests of this country in mind. I sure as hell don't.

491 jmctigret  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:47:11am

British intellectual A. N. Wilson, who became an atheist two decades ago, has announced his return to the practice of the Christian faith.

“Like most educated people in Britain and Northern Europe (I was born in 1950), I have grown up in a culture that is overwhelmingly secular and anti-religious,” he recounts. “The universities, broadcasters and media generally are not merely non-religious, they are positively anti. To my shame, I believe it was this that made me lose faith and heart in my youth. It felt so uncool to be religious.”

Wilson adds:

I was drawn, over and over again, to the disconcerting recognition that so very many of the people I had most admired and loved, either in life or in books, had been believers … Watching a whole cluster of friends, and my own mother, die over quite a short space of time convinced me that purely materialist “explanations” for our mysterious human existence simply won’t do– on an intellectual level. The phenomenon of language alone should give us pause … No, the existence of language is one of the many phenomena– of which love and music are the two strongest– which suggest that human beings are very much more than collections of meat. They convince me that we are spiritual beings, and that the religion of the incarnation, asserting that God made humanity in His image, and continually restores humanity in His image, is simply true. As a working blueprint for life, as a template against which to measure experience, it fits.

492 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:47:32am

re: #489 HoosierHoops
Me too. I was a freshman in HS when they had their first hit.

493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:47:41am

re: #486 pingjockey

She still can wail. She's fought with weight issues for 30 years. A shame we can't just listen and enjoy.

Now, aren't you ashamed?

Didn't think so. :P

494 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:48:13am
495 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:49:20am

re: #493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It was snarky. She can still sing, I guess. Don't know if Heart still does shows or not.

496 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:50:26am

re: #488 vxbush

And most people can't fight their genetic predispositions, no matter how well they diet or work out.

LOL
That boy was dead on a stud in his younger days...With a normal diet and a little exercise that guy would be a very handsome actor right now...
But who knows..If i was making millions a year to be in movies maybe I'd end up looking like Jabba the Hut also..but i doubt it

497 AmeriDan  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:50:28am

re: #473 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #479 realwest

That was indeed a fine comment by FBV to rw.

498 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:50:32am

re: #494 taxfreekiller
work is a four letter word. As soon as it warms up, it'll be yard work time!
Supposed to be in the 70s here on the east side of the Cascades.

499 marge45b  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:50:42am

The Wilsons didn't like the RNC playing "Baracuda" at the convention. It was not to the liking of their politics. I was in HS too when Heart was in its heyday.

500 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:51:38am

re: #494 taxfreekiller

I'm the boss around here (til you get home)

Your text to link...

501 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:51:49am

re: #480 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Ah, that may very well be, but YOU were the one who posted that, lots of folks responded and my test results were ok - coincindence..........you decide. I'm serious: thank you very, very much for that post my friend. It was very kind and generous of you (psssst quick someone look, is he blushing yet or should I pile it on even more?!?).

502 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:51:51am

re: #499 marge45b
Yep. Ann and Nancys problem was, they didn't own the music. The label did and Palins people paid the fee to use the music!

503 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:52:37am

US journalist receives eight-year sentence for spying

AN American journalist has been jailed for eight years after an Iranian court convicted her of spying.

The trial of Roxana Saberi, 31, lasted just five days and took place behind closed doors.

Saberi, a freelance reporter for the BBC and America’s National Public Radio, was arrested in January initially for not carrying the correct press credentials. She was then accused of passing classified information to US intelligence services and taken to Tehran’s Evin jail.

The United States say the charges of espionage are baseless and have demanded her immediate release, while fellow journalists have set up an internet campaign to highlight her plight.

A poke in the eye, the centrifuges spin, and The One glad hands Thugo.

Morning Honcos!

504 redc1c4  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:52:43am

arrrrgh! ahoy me matey's......

off to go sailing with Slocat and the late Mel Lono, of LNDT fame.

today's run is Ventura to Santa Barbara, and maybe round Cojo tomorrow to Morro Bay.......

arrrgh!

505 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:53:33am

Oh, yuck. Someone said the dreaded "chores" word. I guess I had better get some done myself.

Later.

506 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:53:33am

re: #504 redc1c4

You are a stinker! Have fun.

507 redc1c4  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:53:37am

re: #498 pingjockey

w*rk is a four letter word. As soon as it warms up, it'll be yard w*rk time!
Supposed to be in the 70s here on the east side of the Cascades.

then type it in properly......

FTFY!

508 jdog29  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:54:16am

That guy looks like my grandfather.

509 redc1c4  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:54:24am

re: #506 pingjockey

You are a stinker! Have fun.

you misspelled "drink beer"......... %-)

510 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:54:34am

re: #456 Pietr

I'm not really a legal eagle, but that bill makes me nervous.

It looks all nice and reasonable, but it would make you renew your federal firearms license every 5 years, AND it appears that all your local licensing requirements would remain in place.

It's named after a kid who was killed while protecting another kid from a shooter. Feel-good legislation that won't actually do anything to stop illegal gun sales, but will criminalize behavior by the generally law-abiding.

The possibly good news is that the bill has no co-sponsors. But it's been referred to the House judiciary committee - I suppose to see whether they think it would pass constitutional muster.

511 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:54:40am

re: #503 jcm

But she's from the Beeb and NPR? What are the mad mullahs thinking? That is two of their biggest supporters.

512 AmeriDan  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:54:46am

re: #501 realwest

Ah, that may very well be, but YOU were the one who posted that, lots of folks responded and my test results were ok - coincindence..........you decide. I'm serious: thank you very, very much for that post my friend. It was very kind and generous of you (psssst quick someone look, is he blushing yet or should I pile it on even more?!?).

Ah, he deserves a hug. We'll pretend we didn't see it.

513 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:54:54am
514 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:55:03am

re: #502 pingjockey

That kind of reminds me of a story (maybe web, maybe newspaper) I heard yesterday. There is an MLK monument being built in DC and the King Foundation is charging a fee for the use of MLK's words/image. I understand it's different from an entertainer's songs being used, but there's something strange about that kind of "ownership" of history.

515 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:55:12am

re: #507 redc1c4
Smack you very much!

516 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:55:30am

Dutch forces free pirate captives

Dutch commandos have freed 20 fishermen whose vessel was hijacked by Somali pirates and used to launch an attack against a tanker in the Gulf of Aden.

French, Americans and the Dutch all giving the pirates a bad week!

517 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:56:00am

re: #493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She still can wail. She's fought with weight issues for 30 years. A shame we can't just listen and enjoy.

Now, aren't you ashamed?

Didn't think so. :P

LOL
I figure once you bank about 50 million you can afford more trainers and less chocolate.
Ping: we must be about the same age...I had the hots for Heart in High school..
I mean sisters that are hot that play in a rock band? What's not to like for a kid in high school?

518 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:56:22am

The idea of somebody bossing TFK around is always funny to me.

519 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:56:40am

re: #514 Lincolntf
'They' want to build a monument to the man and the MLK foundation wants to charge a fee? WTH?

520 lawhawk  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:56:57am

re: #516 jcm

Dutch forces free pirate captives

French, Americans and the Dutch all giving the pirates a bad week!

But they released those same pirates after detaining them shortly. And Somali's "parliament" has announced that they will impose sharia as a way to undermine the Islamist insurgency. Sounds like they're submitting.

521 AmeriDan  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:57:07am

re: #504 redc1c4

arrrrgh! ahoy me matey's......

off to go sailing with Slocat and the late Mel Lono, of LNDT fame.

today's run is Ventura to Santa Barbara, and maybe round Cojo tomorrow to Morro Bay.......

arrrgh!

Anchors aweigh, and watch out for pirates.

522 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:57:13am

re: #519 pingjockey

Lemme go look for the article.

523 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:57:25am

re: #517 HoosierHoops
Oh yeah!

524 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:57:37am

re: #467 3 wood

You know, I don't think I'd want to invest in a title insurance company right now, regardless of any signals from its corporate HQ.

525 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:58:28am

re: #520 lawhawk

But they released those same pirates after detaining them shortly. And Somali's "parliament" has announced that they will impose sharia as a way to undermine the Islamist insurgency. Sounds like they're submitting.

Unfortunately the pirates are more of a symptom than the problem. The problem is Somalia is a failed state. That's the 800lb gorilla everyone is studiously ignoring.

526 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:58:35am

Iran jails US journalist:

Lawyer: Iran convicts US journalist of spying

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - An American journalist jailed in Iran has been convicted of spying and sentenced to eight years in prison, her lawyer said Saturday, dashing any hopes for her quick release.
The verdict was the first time Iran has found an American journalist guilty of spying, and it was unclear how the conviction would affect recent overtures by the Obama administration for better relations and engagement with Washington's longtime adversary.
Roxana Saberi, a 31-year-old dual American-Iranian citizen, was arrested in late January and initially accused of working without press credentials. But earlier this month, an Iranian judge leveled a far more serious allegation, charging her with spying for the United States.
She appeared before an Iranian court behind closed doors on Monday in an unusually swift one-day trial. The Fargo, North Dakota native had been living in Iran for six years and had worked as a freelance reporter for several news organizations including National Public Radio and the British Broadcasting Corp.
"Saberi has been sentenced to eight years in jail. I'll definitely appeal the verdict," lawyer Abdolsamad Khorramshahi told The Associated Press. It was not immediately known when she was convicted.

So, let's see what the sentiment is from the compassionate, tolerant left about this. At the open sewer know as HuufPo you get this:

First, the "she deserves it" response:

WilliamL
Living in Iran for Six years doing research? Six years? She moved to Iran. Why would anyone go to Iran let alone move there for six years.

People such as this cause problems for this country.

Pehaps her misfortune could be a lesson to those who want to move to a country with a tendency to throw people in jail for no reason, trumped up reasons.

As "trajic" as it is for her, she went to Iran on her own, (maybe she is a "spy," who knows) but the individual citizens with dual citizenships need to be informed again that when they go to places such as Iran, for whatever the reason, they are on their own.

How long was she planing on doing "research" in Iran? Six more years?

Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 04/18/2009

The an oldie but a goodie, the "US is worse" response:

VPN

I have news for you if YOU live in the USA, YOU live in a country that thr-ows people in jail for NO reason, renditions them to other countries for interrogation and torture.

Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 04/18/2009

Then there's the obligatory anti - Semetic stuff you find on almost every HuffPo
thread:

TeaBaggersRLosers

Notice you don't see the USA MSM reporting much about the Is rael Chosenites who now say they don't want a 2 state solution and are already building new settlements after their mini Holocaust agiainst the people of Gaza.

Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 04/18/2009


Followed by the same poster with the usual GITMO stuff:

TeaBaggersRLosers

Good! She deserves prison.

The Useless States does much worse. Just pick up people at random and throws them in Gitmo and tortures them.

Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 04/18/2009


This was just part of the first page of stuff posted there that is allowed to stand. I have noticed that since the election, the hate on the left has become emboldened, more nasty and vicious.

This is just a taste of where the left wing sentiment is today.

527 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:58:36am

re: #517 HoosierHoops

My "Heart" story. Saw them live once. When Nancy was "oh so hot!". She came onto stage in her glimmering blond glory...struck a pose... I was so ready to jump her bones right there.

Turned out to be her male guitarist. She was on the other side of the stage.

Felt kinda dumb.

528 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:58:52am

Watch this an weep/then laugh... make sure to watch to the end. CNN's Susan Roesgen is a hack.

529 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:59:13am

Good morning, Lizards.

530 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:59:44am

re: #522 Lincolntf

Here's an article on it (not the one I originally read). It might make it clearer than my post did. I'm still a little confused by the whole set-up myself.
MLK

531 jdog29  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 6:59:51am

re: #296 Pietr

Wow-on a serious note, it seems BO and friends are trying to backdoor our 2nd Amendment rights, still. This comes complete with mandatory registration, license fees, etc.!

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

.It is registered
.You are fingerprinted
.You supply a current Driver's License
.You supply your Social Security #
.You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing
.Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25
- Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.


Gun Bill

How else will the police know which houses to stop at and how many guns they'll be looking for?

This is the path EVERY gov't in the history of the world travels to get to the confiscation of firearms step.

532 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:00:01am

re: #477 taxfreekiller

we are not so sure about doing E & O for some of their fee atty's
as they got big expensive habits and do not seem to want to go
cold turkey just now on spending.

I would be very cautious about doing any business with these people. I'd want to get paid up front.

533 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:00:43am

re: #481 pingjockey
Hi ya ping! Uh, what's BFE? And I didn't see any Paulian meltdowns, though I certainly heard about them.
Lets face it = there were TOO MANY tea parties for Paulista's to have organized (32 in North Carolina alone) or for the Neo-Nazi's to coordinate or control.
For some reason Kilgore kept harping on that meme of Paul/Neo-Nazi's using mostly Ron Paul sites and Stormfront for his sources. Me, I read what LGFer's themselves said about the Tea Parties they had been to.
And just wait 'til NEXT YEAR when a lot more Americans get bit on the butt by the Tax man - guarantee that they'll be more and larger Tea Parties then!
And hell, my congresscritter spoke at one in her congressional district and no mention was made of anything other than "Why higher taxes? Why a budget that CALLS FOR a DEFICIT of Over $1.5 TRILLION? How about freezing what Federal spending can be frozen (i.e., non-entitlement programs)?"
All in all, a bad day for Paulista's and the Nazi's (Yea!) and a good day for the folks who actually, ya know, foot the bill for all of these new programs - hell Obama's start on National Healthcare is more than half of that budgeted deficit!
And thank YOU for doing what the coffee hasn't yet: gotten me awake and cooking!LOL!

534 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:00:53am

re: #526 3 wood

I wonder how many of those commenters live in the United States, and live in mom's basement.

535 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:01:10am

re: #529 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Good morning..Hope today finds you well

536 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:02:27am

re: #531 jdog29

How else will the police know which houses to stop at and how many guns they'll be looking for?

This is the path EVERY gov't in the history of the world travels to get to the confiscation of firearms step.

I read the bill a while ago and post it a couple of times. One section IIRC gives the AG the power to determine which guns are covered. So they start small, and slowly add in other weapons at the discretion of the AG.

537 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:02:51am

re: #501 realwest

Ah, that may very well be, but YOU were the one who posted that, lots of folks responded and my test results were ok - coincindence..........you decide. I'm serious: thank you very, very much for that post my friend. It was very kind and generous of you (psssst quick someone look, is he blushing yet or should I pile it on even more?!?).

Just buy him a burger and a beer :)

538 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:04:27am

re: #533 realwest
BFE=Bum Fuck Egypt. I was up in North North Central Wa. and the hotel had a crappy computer. Glad, oh so very glad your doctors' visit came out ok.
As for the Paulians...Omak and Colville Wa. had tea parties, no loons, just lots and lots of pickups. Lots of farmers. No moonbats, tree huggers, etc...

539 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:04:35am

Morning Lizards!

540 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:04:40am

re: #518 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The idea of somebody bossing TFK around is always funny to me.

From what TFK has posted, she's armed, she's licensed, and she's NO ONE to screw with.....I can understand.....:>))

541 Ojoe  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:04:41am

re: #531 jdog29

Too late, they will never find all the firearms already in this country.

And that's a good thing

542 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:04:52am

re: #496 HoosierHoops

LOL
That boy was dead on a stud in his younger days...With a normal diet and a little exercise that guy would be a very handsome actor right now...
But who knows..If i was making millions a year to be in movies maybe I'd end up looking like Jabba the Hut also..but i doubt it

I really don't think he'd be handsome now whatever he did. He could look better, sure. But (just for instance) compare Robert Redford and Paul Newman. Both were drop-dead gorgeous as youngish men. Both stayed in shape. But Newman stayed handsome all his life, while Redford lost his prettiness.

543 redc1c4  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:04:54am

re: #510 lurking faith

I'm not really a legal eagle, but that bill makes me nervous.

It looks all nice and reasonable, but it would make you renew your federal firearms license every 5 years, AND it appears that all your local licensing requirements would remain in place.

It's named after a kid who was killed while protecting another kid from a shooter. Feel-good legislation that won't actually do anything to stop illegal gun sales, but will criminalize behavior by the generally law-abiding.

The possibly good news is that the bill has no co-sponsors. But it's been referred to the House judiciary committee - I suppose to see whether they think it would pass constitutional muster.

i don't need a license to practice a right, anymore than i need a "free speach" license. you can only license a privlege, like driving, or practicing medicine or being a barber.....

544 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:05:17am

re: #539 Afrocity

Morning Lizards!

Morning, I need coffee. ;)

545 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:06:58am

re: #539 Afrocity

Morning Lizards!

Morning Windy City, how does the weekend in find you?

546 redc1c4  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:07:07am

re: #521 AmeriDan

Anchors aweigh, and watch out for pirates.

we *are* the pirates......

well, i am, anyway..... %-)

547 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:07:12am

re: #544 DEZes

Morning, I need coffee. ;)

*slides a cup of Kona over to DEZ*
Good morning

548 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:07:26am

Some fool on FNC talking about consumers having money i their pockets because we haven't been spending! We haven't been spending because we don't have any money! Leftist economic expert, there is an oxymoron. Or, just a moron.

549 redc1c4  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:07:35am

re: #515 pingjockey

Smack you very much!

%-)

550 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:07:58am

re: #535 HoosierHoops

Good morning..Hope today finds you well


{HoosierHoops}

It's amazing the difference sunshine makes!

551 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:08:03am

re: #542 lurking faith

I really don't think he'd be handsome now whatever he did. He could look better, sure. But (just for instance) compare Robert Redford and Paul Newman. Both were drop-dead gorgeous as youngish men. Both stayed in shape. But Newman stayed handsome all his life, while Redford lost his prettiness.

I agree.some people do not age well...

552 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:08:18am

re: #546 redc1c4
It's 7 am and you all aren't out to sea yet? What the hell kind of sailors are you?

553 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:08:34am

re: #539 Afrocity

Morning Lizards!

{Afrocity}

554 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:08:37am

re: #545 jcm

Morning Windy City, how does the weekend in find you?

Pretty good JCM weather should be nice. People should be over their tea party hangovers.

555 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:08:38am

re: #548 pingjockey

Some fool on FNC talking about consumers having money i their pockets because we haven't been spending! We haven't been spending because we don't have any money! Leftist economic expert, there is an oxymoron. Or, just a moron.

Most folks are just sitting around waiting for Obama to take what's left.

556 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:08:41am

re: #526 3 wood

Iran jails US journalist:

Lawyer: Iran convicts US journalist of spying


This was just part of the first page of stuff posted there that is allowed to stand. I have noticed that since the election, the hate on the left has become emboldened, more nasty and vicious.

This is just a taste of where the left wing sentiment is today.

NPR was tying themselves in knots this morning, trying to figure out how to respond to one of their own being paraded through a show trial and tossed in jail for eight years. They seemed to be settling into the "give peace (diplomacy) a chance" excuse, but still weren't at all comfortable with it, since it meant consigning one of their own to eight years in an Islamic hell hole.

I expect she'll be released after Tehran has milked the publicity for all it's worth. It'll be interesting to hear what she has to say about her colleague's signing off on her well being.

557 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:08:48am

re: #543 redc1c4

i don't need a license to practice a right, anymore than i need a "free speach" license. you can only license a privlege, like driving, or practicing medicine or being a barber.....

One positive sign, 95 (D) congress critters sent a letter to Obama / Reid / Pelosi saying the wouldn't vote for gun control measures.

558 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:08:58am

re: #549 redc1c4
Because you are going sailing and I'm doing yard work!

559 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:09:01am

re: #553 goddessoftheclassroom

{Afrocity}

{goddess}

560 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:09:49am

re: #554 Afrocity

Pretty good JCM weather should be nice. People should be over their tea party hangovers.

We're supposed to have sun and 60°s all weekend!

561 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:09:59am

re: #539 Afrocity

Morning Lizards!

'G Morning. I've added your blog to my favorites. Nice job.

562 redc1c4  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:10:12am

re: #552 pingjockey

It's 7 am and you all aren't out to sea yet? What the hell kind of sailors are you?

one that's waiting for Mel Lono to show up, so we can hit the road....

563 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:11:03am

re: #560 jcm

We're supposed to have sun and 60°s all weekend!

You in Chicago? Midwest?
Poor Denver, I wonder how Walter made it through the storm. Did the play open?

564 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:11:03am

re: #555 FrogMarch
I didn't have to wait. Had to pay the treasury! Go figure, the house hold made less than 70k, have 3 kids and I have to pay plus what they took in withholding. The new definition of wealthy....if you aren't getting a gov't check you are wealthy.

565 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:11:13am

re: #542 lurking faith

I really don't think he'd be handsome now whatever he did. He could look better, sure. But (just for instance) compare Robert Redford and Paul Newman. Both were drop-dead gorgeous as youngish men. Both stayed in shape. But Newman stayed handsome all his life, while Redford lost his prettiness.

'Tis the underlying bone structure. See Sean Connery.

Lifelong thinness comes from one of two things; either those 'good' genes that naturally make you tend toward a lean body, or constant monitoring of your calories.

My SIL weighs herself every day, and if she is up a pound she doesn't eat that day. She still weighs what she did when she graduated nursing school, way back in the day.

566 redc1c4  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:11:27am

re: #558 pingjockey

Because you are going sailing and I'm doing yard w*rk!

don't make me have to fix that again, or i'll report you for using bad language.... %-)

567 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:12:03am

re: #550 goddessoftheclassroom

{HoosierHoops}

It's amazing the difference sunshine makes!

It is a beautiful day here in Indiana...I'm going to take Winston out back in a few minutes and chase that dog around and play while breakfast is being cooked...
I have a goofy dog with a goofy smile when he plays...
'Come on you can catch me! then he slows down..just to tease me..and just about when i caught him he speeds up looking back with a goofy grin...

568 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:12:04am

re: #562 redc1c4
Ah. Well seeing as how he's holding things up, he should have to supply the potables for the trip!

569 redc1c4  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:12:08am

re: #560 jcm

We're supposed to have sun and 60°s all weekend!

high 80*s going to low 90*s through the middle of the week..... %-)

570 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:12:14am

re: #539 Afrocity

Morning Lizards!

Good Morning, Lady. If you still haven't checked out Baldilocks blog, I'll send you a link at your homeblog. She's good peeps and a vet:I was cooresponding with her for a while, but had a 6 month down from the iernet, so I lost some contacts and emails....

571 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:12:19am

re: #561 FrogMarch

'G Morning. I've added your blog to my favorites. Nice job.

Yeah, I had a few battles over there withs libs and conservatives but I hope it pans out. I wonder if one can have a blog where both parties coexist.

572 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:12:41am

A small positive sign in Blue Seattle......

Seattle city councilmembers issued cat toys - to save money

The pen-shaped pointers go for $25 or $30 at an office-supply store.

A cat-owning staff member pointed out that essentially the same thing could be had at Petco for $5.

573 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:12:42am

re: #557 jcm

Perhaps they remember what happened last time.

574 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:12:42am

re: #566 redc1c4
And a fine %^&*$# to you!

575 redc1c4  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:12:49am

i'm outta here!

se ya on the LNDT!

576 redc1c4  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:13:01am

re: #574 pingjockey

And a fine %^&*$# to you!

%-)

577 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:13:34am

re: #528 FrogMarch

Watch this an weep/then laugh... make sure to watch to the end. CNN's Susan Roesgen is a hack.

"The 50 million is from my fucking taxes". Guess the guy didn't like being played for an idiot.

578 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:13:37am

re: #563 Afrocity

You in Chicago? Midwest?
Poor Denver, I wonder how Walter made it through the storm. Did the play open?

Seattle, the Great Northwet!

579 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:13:41am

re: #576 redc1c4
Have fun, be safe, etc...

580 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:14:11am

re: #571 Afrocity

Yeah, I had a few battles over there withs libs and conservatives but I hope it pans out. I wonder if one can have a blog where both parties coexist.

Not if you talk politics.

I've got you bookmarked. I'm impressed with your content and comments.

Good job.

581 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:14:19am

re: #548 pingjockey

Some fool on FNC talking about consumers having money i their pockets because we haven't been spending! We haven't been spending because we don't have any money! Leftist economic expert, there is an oxymoron. Or, just a moron.

Don't know what that's all about, but we tried to go out for dinner last night and abandoned the plan after circling for a half-hour without finding a parking spot anywhere within a half-mile of our destination. Downtown was utterly packed with folks who had the same idea, and we wound up stopping at a crappy diner far outside of town. On the way there, we passed up several other restaurants with jam-packed parking lots and lines out the door.

And this is in Michigan, the leader in unemployment.

Hard to see a recession going on around here, despite that. Although I do suspect that about half of Detroit isn't working. That happens to be the functional illiteracy rate in the city, something that will hang like a stone around the state's neck for decades to come.

582 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:14:28am

re: #528 FrogMarch

Watch this an weep/then laugh... make sure to watch to the end. CNN's Susan Roesgen is a hack.

Objective reporting at it's finest!
/////

583 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:14:31am

re: #570 Pietr

I have checked it out. I would have left a comment but her blog requires you to register.

584 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:15:08am

re: #563 Afrocity

You in Chicago? Midwest?
Poor Denver, I wonder how Walter made it through the storm. Did the play open?

No, we pushed the opening and reception until tonight. Roads outside my apartment in Golden are wet but clear. The only thing that save us down here in the front range was the temps, was a bit above freezing most of the time and even overnight, I think it only reached freezing. And it was in the 60 days before this spring storm.

But you go just a few hundred feet up from here, and further, up to 3 feet of snow, and on the roads, since the temps go down as you go up.

Downtown Denver, actually only 6 inches, Golden, probably about 8 inches (hard to tell, it keeps melting underneath) and up to 3 feet in the mountains.

Interstate 70 is still close from Golden to Vail, both directions, that's half way across the state, East to West.

This is a typical spring storm, nothing new.

585 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:15:09am

re: #482 3 wood
Hey 3 wood - good to see you my friend! Uh, when you get a chance could you check your e-mail?
AND What do you think about the new EPA legislation
(PLEASE see my #147 on the Chimp of the Day thread!)

586 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:15:18am

re: #575 redc1c4

i'm outta here!

se ya on the LNDT!

This is the LNDT.

Later red. Don't fall over board. :)

587 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:16:21am

re: #581 SixDegrees
A fifty percent illiteracy rate? The donks have run Detroit for how long?

588 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:16:40am

re: #564 pingjockey

I didn't have to wait. Had to pay the treasury! Go figure, the house hold made less than 70k, have 3 kids and I have to pay plus what they took in withholding. The new definition of wealthy....if you aren't getting a gov't check you are wealthy.

I had to write a big stinky check too. On top of my already paid estimated Q-tax payments. It was painful. I'm fine with paying my fair share, but any more and it's getting ridiculous. I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how Obama is going to give 95% of us a tax cut while he lets the Bush tax cuts expire.

589 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:16:40am

re: #556 SixDegrees

I expect she'll be released after Tehran has milked the publicity for all it's worth. It'll be interesting to hear what she has to say about her colleague's signing off on her well being.

If Bush was still in the White House they would be screaming about how "cowboy diplomacy" caused all this. But with Obama in, not much.

Just like you don't hear anything about the casualties in Iraq/Afganistan anymore.


A year ago it was a daily announcement.

590 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:16:45am

re: #585 realwest
Whoa! Was there a disturbance in the force or did TimeWarner kick me off before my #585 got posted?!
Had to re-boot and log in again!
anyone else having problems?!

591 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:16:46am

re: #580 razorbacker

Not if you talk politics.

I've got you bookmarked. I'm impressed with your content and comments.

Good job.

I am finding that liberals have a hard time letting go of the stereotypes they have of conservatives. That is frustrating and you can see it in the comments I get.

592 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:17:35am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Sorry for being off-line without previous explanation - didn't think stuff with my eyes would be quite so hystery-inducing! I'll just hang about for a leeettle bit, mustn't overdo things ...

Anyway - missed you all, and as a sign that I've thought of you, here's a cartoon I saved especially for Lizardia!

Now - what spectaculars on LGF have I missed?
Tell me all the dirty secrets, please!

:-)

593 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:17:47am

re: #581 SixDegrees
Well now we have some fool talking about unionizing WalMart and 'it will grow the company o'seas'. What a maroon.

594 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:18:03am

re: #583 Afrocity

I have checked it out. I would have left a comment but her blog requires you to register.

I have met few people in my life willing to talk about race and politics head on..unabashed in the public square..
What you are doing is cutting edge and brave..
* standing ovation*

595 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:18:26am

re: #577 kansas

"The 50 million is from my fucking taxes". Guess the guy didn't like being played for an idiot.

No kidding.
did you notice how in the CNN TV version, most of what that man said got cut and CNN made him sound like a big dummy. In reality he did pretty well.

596 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:18:32am

re: #587 pingjockey

A fifty percent illiteracy rate? The donks have run Detroit for how long?

I'm getting a refund, I try to plan my taxes so I have to pay a small amount. But foster care is hard to plan for and that threw my planning out the window this year.

597 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:18:35am

Some very basic analysis of the effect of the Second Amendment, from FindLaw:
[Link: caselaw.lp.findlaw.com...]

598 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:18:43am

re: #584 Walter L. Newton

Good. I hope you get the same turnout that you would have last night.
You have a lizard buddy there now. JJMckay got that job in Denver and he moved there last week. You two should get together.

599 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:19:14am

re: #594 HoosierHoops

I have met few people in my life willing to talk about race and politics head on..unabashed in the public square..
What you are doing is cutting edge and brave..
* standing ovation*

and costing me friends.

600 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:19:59am

re: #595 FrogMarch

No kidding.
did you notice how in the CNN TV version, most of what that man said got cut and CNN made him sound like a big dummy. In reality he did pretty well.

Levin had him on his program Thursday, he was sound like a decent guy. The reporter was just spewing Axletool's talking points.

601 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:20:16am

re: #596 jcm
Well, what got me was I still have the 17 year old at home but you don't get the 1000 dollar tax credit! So now we're trying to figure out how to pay the property taxes!

602 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:20:18am

re: #599 Afrocity

and costing me friends.

Then they were never true friends.

603 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:20:51am

Twelve thousand people with out with power in Evergreen (in the mountains). Three thousand out in Denver. Boulder has 4 thousand people without power. And pockets of outages all over the place.re: #598 Afrocity

Good. I hope you get the same turnout that you would have last night.
You have a lizard buddy there now. JJMckay got that job in Denver and he moved there last week. You two should get together.

I know Jim, at least as an on air personality, he's been on air in the Denver area in the past. And now he's back, on an internet radio show, I believe.

604 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:20:52am

re: #596 jcm

I'm getting a refund, I try to plan my taxes so I have to pay a small amount. But foster care is hard to plan for and that threw my planning out the window this year.

Please tell me what I have to do to get a refund? I have not got one since 1996. I am serious. I always come out owing them $3,000-$5,000. Why do they penalize single people?

605 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:22:19am

re: #587 pingjockey

A fifty percent illiteracy rate? The donks have run Detroit for how long?

Decades. At least the last forty years.

Type "Detroit illiteracy rate" into Google. Don't do it on a full stomach.

606 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:22:44am

re: #603 Walter L. Newton

He starts the new job Monday. That was a tough move for him from Wyoming but he is settled in. I am excited for him. Success story in this tough economy.

607 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:22:54am

re: #585 realwest

Hey 3 wood - good to see you my friend! Uh, when you get a chance could you check your e-mail?
AND What do you think about the new EPA legislation
(PLEASE see my #147 on the Chimp of the Day thread!)

The EPA stuff will be used as marching orders to tell everyone how to live and impose huge taxes. We are becoming more and more like Europe every day.

Last year I paid the equivalent of about $9 a gallon for gasoline in Ireland. A whole lot of that is tax to pay for their socialistic programs. Looks like that is the way we are headed with this administration.

608 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:22:57am

re: #604 Afrocity
That's how they can give the EIC and other stuff, like the child tax credit for married folks. I used to be amazed at how much they took while I was single and in the Navy!

609 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:23:22am

re: #599 Afrocity

and costing me friends.

/Those tolerant liberals.

610 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:24:04am

re: #599 Afrocity

and costing me friends.

Sometimes taking a stand does that. In the long run, friends don't base things on like that. Unfortunately in my experience those on the left base a person's goodness far more on have the correct political views than on the person.

I have a number of liberal acquaintances, not hard in Seattle, who are simply astounded to find out a bitter clingy rightwingnut does foster care. It doesn't fit their preconceptions about the "right."

611 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:24:09am

re: #605 SixDegrees
I'll pass. Illiteracy in this day and age and in this country is unforgiveable.

612 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:24:24am

re: #600 jcm

Levin had him on his program Thursday, he was sound like a decent guy. The reporter was just spewing Axletool's talking points.

CNN is just DNC hackery. It's beyond pathetic. Just like the ABC radio news segments: total pro-Obama.

613 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:24:26am

re: #604 Afrocity

Please tell me what I have to do to get a refund? I have not got one since 1996. I am serious. I always come out owing them $3,000-$5,000. Why do they penalize single people?

They penalize everyone. Review your w-4 and what is withheld, and change the w-4 to have them increase the amount of withholding to the point you pay little, or get some back. That's my best advice, Afrocity....but it has worked for me.

614 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:24:42am

re: #599 Afrocity

and costing me friends.

Keep your eye on the goal..I see what you are striving for in a blog..In a year or two I probably won't even get in for the book signing..
You'll forget the Hoopster in the fray..Be strong, be brave..
And go for it!

615 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:25:26am

re: #608 pingjockey

That's how they can give the EIC and other stuff, like the child tax credit for married folks. I used to be amazed at how much they took while I was single and in the Navy!

They should be thanking us for not adding to the population.

616 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:25:48am

re: #591 Afrocity

I am finding that liberals have a hard time letting go of the stereotypes they have of conservatives. That is frustrating and you can see it in the comments I get.

If the popular culture demonizes any group long enough that will happen, just as the popular culture can lionize a group enough to change perceptions of that group for the better.

617 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:25:56am

re: #593 pingjockey

Well now we have some fool talking about unionizing WalMart and 'it will grow the company o'seas'. What a maroon.

Yeah. Unionization always makes things better.

Hard to get all upset over WalMart's misfortunes, however. They are no friend of this nation, either. They're a gigantic dollar pipeline from here direct to China, and that same pipeline sucks jobs away along with the dough.

618 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:26:08am

re: #615 Afrocity
Mwahahaha!

619 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:27:28am

re: #601 pingjockey

Well, what got me was I still have the 17 year old at home but you don't get the 1000 dollar tax credit! So now we're trying to figure out how to pay the property taxes!

My dad had to sell a house in Oregon because of that. The were outside of Portland, nice house one lot up from the Columbia beautiful views and location. Bought the house spent 15 years in it. When the Portland suburbs made it out to them taxes surrounded them the taxes rocketed up. Finally taxes were more than the mortgage.

620 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:27:45am

re: #617 SixDegrees
There is that. Then again, I know a lot of folks shopping at Wally World due to the cost.

621 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:28:11am

re: #599 Afrocity

and costing me friends.

Shame on them.

622 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:28:28am

re: #591 Afrocity

I am finding that liberals have a hard time letting go of the stereotypes they have of conservatives. That is frustrating and you can see it in the comments I get.

Those stereotypes though are the conditions they have to assume exist for their own views to make sense.

For example, income redistribution from "the rich" makes sense only if you assume there is no way for those with less to improve their situation via hard work and effort and "the rich" have an endless supply of wealth.

623 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:28:39am

re: #612 FrogMarch

CNN is just DNC hackery. It's beyond pathetic. Just like the ABC radio news segments: total pro-Obama.

I don't have cable so don't have CNN. I was astounded by the bias of the reporter, I know they are, but that seemed so over the top.

624 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:28:53am

Got to run some errands.

later.

625 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:28:57am

re: #619 jcm
That is happening in Chelan. A lot of retirees losing the family home that's been in the family for generations.

626 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:29:09am

re: #619 jcm

My dad had to sell a house in Oregon because of that. The were outside of Portland, nice house one lot up from the Columbia beautiful views and location. Bought the house spent 15 years in it. When the Portland suburbs made it out to them taxes surrounded them the taxes rocketed up. Finally taxes were more than the mortgage.

That is so depressing. Taxation forcing folks out of their homes.

ooo and we all know Oregon is a perfectly uber-lib paradise. Made more perfect with confiscatory taxation.

627 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:29:30am

re: #610 jcm

Sometimes taking a stand does that. In the long run, friends don't base things on like that. Unfortunately in my experience those on the left base a person's goodness far more on have the correct political views than on the person.

I have a number of liberal acquaintances, not hard in Seattle, who are simply astounded to find out a bitter clingy rightwingnut does foster care. It doesn't fit their preconceptions about the "right."

I have a "liberal" job I guess. But it amazes me how liberals are surprised when i do something to help people. Like I said, I never knew what kept me over in that DEM camp for so long except the abortion issue. It is narrow minded to think that all conservatives think alike. Some posters got into it about big government and I clearly saw that the libs feel the government is there to help people who can't help themselves. I said I believe in self-reliance. I lost a friend.

628 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:30:21am

re: #592 yma o hyd
Hi {yma} - well didja at least bring a doctors' note explaining your absence?!
:)
Great cartoon, btw!

629 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:31:33am

"Blinky" says the tea parties were organized by the rich.
Cavuto had a little run in with the Speaker. Heh.

630 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:31:48am

{realwest}

631 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:32:17am

re: #599 Afrocity
Good morning to you Afrocity! IF your blog is costing you friends, then they truly weren't friends to begin with. Keep on speaking your mind - your real friends will stick, the phonies won't and you'll be better off for knowing the difference between the two!

632 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:32:34am

re: #592 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Sorry for being off-line without previous explanation - didn't think stuff with my eyes would be quite so hystery-inducing! I'll just hang about for a leeettle bit, mustn't overdo things ...

Anyway - missed you all, and as a sign that I've thought of you, here's a cartoon I saved especially for Lizardia!

Now - what spectaculars on LGF have I missed?
Tell me all the dirty secrets, please!

:-)

Everyone has been asking about you! I got you covered..I told em you were hanging in Paris with a stud footie player last week..
You are a bad girl! :)

633 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:32:35am

re: #629 pingjockey

"Blinky" says the tea parties were organized by the rich.
Cavuto had a little run in with the Speaker. Heh.

Astroturf...So says the Limousine Liberal Fat Feline from San Francisco

634 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:33:14am

re: #513 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just tryin' to link "The Man Song".

I don't take no crap from anybody else but you.
I wear the pants around here
When I'm finished with your laundry.

635 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:33:18am

re: #622 3 wood

Those stereotypes though are the conditions they have to assume exist for their own views to make sense.

For example, income redistribution from "the rich" makes sense only if you assume there is no way for those with less to improve their situation via hard work and effort and "the rich" have an endless supply of wealth.

Redistribution is based on the fundamentally flawed notion of zero sum. (Total wealth in the World is fixed and finite). When you make that flawed assumption, it's easy to make the supposition that because A has wealth, A deprives B of wealth. When that is accepted it's easy to make the moral argument that it is "right" therefore to take wealth from A and give it to B.

The whole leftist economic model is based on a flawed assumption, and will collapse when too much weight is put on it.

636 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:33:39am

YMA, Lizards on facebook were asking about you too.

637 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:33:48am

re: #633 Afrocity
That woman bother me on so many levels. Don't trust her half as far as I could throw her.

638 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:34:20am

re: #604 Afrocity

Please tell me what I have to do to get a refund? I have not got one since 1996. I am serious. I always come out owing them $3,000-$5,000. Why do they penalize single people?

You need to increase the level of your withholding (if you are on salary/wages), or increase what you pay in estimated taxes throughout the year.

BTW, while it's a good idea to withhold and/or estimate enough so that you either get a small refund or pay a small amount at the end of the year, you really don't want to set it up so that you get a large refund. If you do that, you are giving the IRS an interest-free loan every year.

639 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:34:50am

re: #620 pingjockey

There is that. Then again, I know a lot of folks shopping at Wally World due to the cost.

I'd do some serious comparison shopping. WalMart spends huge amounts of advertising dollars convincing people they're cheap, but I've never noticed it myself. They're the same or often higher than the same product elsewhere in almost every case.

They are very good at manipulating a handful of items they sell as loss-leaders. They'll heavily advertise, say, hot dog buns are half what anyone else is charging, but while you're there you're bound to pick up a few more things, and the mustard, ketchup, hot dogs themselves and other food items are typically more than what you'll pay at your local grocer. But people selectively remember, "Hey, their hot dog buns are cheap!" and mistakenly extend that impression to everything else they sell.

I won't say that WalMart is pure evil. But I refuse to shop there. I prefer to keep my money as close to home as possible, and I shop at locally owned businesses whenever possible.

640 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:35:02am

re: #2 jaunte

Is cuteness an evolved survival trait?

I have seen something that made the argument that cuteness is an evolved trait to help parents love their offspring. But the counter argument I suppose would be that it is parental perceptions of baby type faces that has done the evolution.

641 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:35:14am

Ya know when Ben Stein sticks to economics he's okay.
Now if he would just stick to that, I'd be fine with him.

642 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:35:15am

re: #628 realwest

Hi {yma} - well didja at least bring a doctors' note explaining your absence?!
:)
Great cartoon, btw!

Hiya, {rw} - well, I got a note, but the handwriting is so utterly illegible that it looks as if hens had their feet dipped in ink and walked over the paper!

That cartoon had me in stitches ...!

643 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:35:16am

re: #637 pingjockey

That woman bother me on so many levels. Don't trust her half as far as I could throw her.

Scary that she could be president someday. I pray every day for the safety of Obama and Biden.

644 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:36:11am

re: #639 SixDegrees
Usually don't hit Wally World. Try to shop in local, non chain stores.

645 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:36:34am

re: #638 lurking faith

I have zero dependents and they still get me.

646 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:36:42am

re: #604 Afrocity

Please tell me what I have to do to get a refund? I have not got one since 1996. I am serious. I always come out owing them $3,000-$5,000. Why do they penalize single people?

I'm not a tax guy, but am self employed. Are you running your new blog as a business? If so, this year you could do a schedule C. I would think that would give you some legitimate business expense for 2009, internet, phone, office space in your residence, vehicle expense. entertainment, all sorts of legitimate stuff like that. I use Quicken, categorize income and expense, keep track, and then give that to a CPA to figure out. Those expenses could offset some of your income as I assume you continue to have income from the profession you list.

647 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:36:48am

re: #628 realwest

Real! Top of the morning to ya'!

648 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:37:02am

re: #643 Afrocity
2nd in line. That is truly scary.

649 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:37:04am

re: #639 SixDegrees

That's okay. Wally-World's new SKU philosophy will that care of their dominance.

650 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:37:37am

re: #632 HoosierHoops

Everyone has been asking about you! I got you covered..I told em you were hanging in Paris with a stud footie player last week..
You are a bad girl! :)

Hiya, {HH}!

I would never ever ever hang with a stud footie player!
Now a nice, lush rugby player, on the other hand ...

Thanks for covering for me!
Is Winston behaving himself, or ahs he done another runner while i was away?

651 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:38:14am

re: #607 3 wood
Whew! I thought between you having to leave and TimeWarner making me leave you hadn't seen my comment!
Yup, Obama wants us to use Alternative Energy - which I'm in favor of, BUT he doesn't want us to use Alternative Enegry that, ya know, WORKS! No nuclear power, just rely on Sun and Wind and Geothermal, none of which can supply enough electricity yet for the NYC subway system much less for the nation and while electric cars may be the wave of the future (though I doubt it) they won't be anything until folks can re-charge 'em at reasonable rates.
I just don't think Obama's economic or foreign policy ideas are good for America. Period. That's NOT SAYING I want America to fail, it's IS SAYING that I want Obama to change his damn policies.

652 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:38:36am

re: #640 Jimmah

I have seen something that made the argument that cuteness is an evolved trait to help parents love their offspring. But the counter argument I suppose would be that it is parental perceptions of baby type faces that has done the evolution.

A new father once said to me, "You know why God made babies so cute? So you don't kill 'em!" (He was a great father, btw.)

653 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:39:45am

re: #608 pingjockey

That's how they can give the EIC and other stuff, like the child tax credit for married folks. I used to be amazed at how much they took while I was single and in the Navy!

Um, the child tax credit is for folks with children, not for married folks.

By the way, I can assure you that if we were not married, Mr. faith and I would pay less in income taxes.

654 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:39:56am

re: #636 Afrocity

YMA, Lizards on facebook were asking about you too.

Aww - thats really lovely!
Gotta be careful - at least until after I've seen that doctor on Monday.

Have you tried that TopShop store yet? Do they have a website you can visit?

655 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:40:40am

re: #650 yma o hyd

Hiya, {HH}!

I would never ever ever hang with a stud footie player!
Now a nice, lush rugby player, on the other hand ...

Thanks for covering for me!
Is Winston behaving himself, or ahs he done another runner while i was away?

Kind regards..Winston is in the back yard playing on a beautiful sunny day..
I can hear him calling, ' Hoopster..It's a warm day..get out here and chase me around!'

656 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:40:54am

re: #654 yma o hyd

Aww - thats really lovely!
Gotta be careful - at least until after I've seen that doctor on Monday.

Have you tried that TopShop store yet? Do they have a website you can visit?

I am not in New York where the Top Shop opened. Chicago has yet to get one.

657 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:41:01am

re: #653 lurking faith
Mistyped. I have 3 boys and still had to pay. I was not a happy camper.

658 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:41:28am

re: #646 kansas

I did not know that a blog was a business.

659 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:41:40am

re: #645 Afrocity
But look at it this way Afrocity - if y'all were getting a refund then that would have meant you gave the government(s) too much money last year - gave them an interest free loan!
This way you kept your money, hopefully managed to make some interest on it, and only now have to pay the IRS!

660 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:42:40am

re: #655 HoosierHoops
"Winston"? Is he a bulldog? Our new dog is named Indy as in Indianna Jones. The better half has a terrible case for Harrison Ford!

661 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:43:21am

re: #655 HoosierHoops

Kind regards..Winston is in the back yard playing on a beautiful sunny day..
I can hear him calling, ' Hoopster..It's a warm day..get out here and chase me around!'

Aww - thats what they all want, always!
Madame and I had a jolly romp with a ball the other day, hugely enjoyed by us - but now she's limping again. Its back on anti-inflammatories and short walks-on-lead for her. She doesn't like it one bit ...

662 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:43:29am

re: #646 kansas
Ah, good morning kansas, I think Afrocity started her blog THIS YEAR (2009) so that's not gonna help her out with her 2008 taxes!

663 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:44:09am

re: #647 jcm And to you jcm! How are you doing today in the great Pacific Northwet?

664 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:44:23am

re: #658 Afrocity
If you derive income and have expenses I guess it would count as a business. I'm not a tax attorney, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn so take that for what it's worth. (Not much!)

665 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:44:39am

re: #656 Afrocity

I am not in New York where the Top Shop opened. Chicago has yet to get one.

So you didn't go for a brief, fashion-necessitated trip to NYC then ...!

;-)

666 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:45:04am

re: #649 razorbacker

That's okay. Wally-World's new SKU philosophy will that care of their dominance.

?

667 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:45:53am
668 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:45:54am

re: #659 realwest

But I still have to write the IRS a check at the end. Still goes in their pockets.

669 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:46:33am

Later folks, Y'all have a fine day!

670 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:46:34am

re: #666 SixDegrees

Uh oh, SixDegrees at 666...

671 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:46:54am

Stinky about this morning?

672 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:46:55am

re: #655 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops! Well hell, listen to Winston - if y'all chase him around enough it'll put you in better phsyical shape and "justify" a nap later! A two-fer. Actually, since it'll also be fun for Winston, make that a three-fer!

673 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:47:05am

re: #667 zee
AMF!

674 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:47:22am

re: #663 realwest

And to you jcm! How are you doing today in the great Pacific Northwet?

It's off to a good start, good weather, puttering around the kitchen getting breakfast ready.

675 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:47:40am

re: #671 Wishing
I'm guessing he just got a nudge....

676 MacGregor  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:48:01am

re: #599 Afrocity

and costing me friends.

Good morning Afrocity. I remember convincing a friend to return a stolen item to another friend in high school. I lost one group of friends for being a self-righteous dork. I lost the other group because they thought I was in on it. It stank for sure. I look back and think I'm glad I did it. It gave me independence and a chance to meet real friends later. Best to you.

677 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:48:13am

re: #667 zee
Do you intend to stick around and defend those scurrilous statements? Or is it just a drive by grenade toss?

678 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:48:18am

As you're talking about taxes - our budget will be 'revealed' on Wednesday. It'll sound good - but then the small print will induce horros and shrieks of outrage across the country.

An example of how things are done here in the UK:
Gord announced that from 2011 (when he'll certainly not be in government!) there will be £5000 given to everybody who buys an electric car ...
Trouble is - there aren't any!
The two available now won't get the grant as they're not classified as 'cars' - and the possible ones will cost about six times as much - and to top it all, only 250million ££ are allocated for that ...

But its a nice, 'green' headline ...

679 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:48:23am

re: #671 Wishing

Stinky about this morning?

We are not to 700 comments yet. We have 400 to go.

680 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:48:27am

re: #670 wrenchwench

Uh oh, SixDegrees at 666...

Hmmm...maybe firing up the grill isn't such a good idea after all.

Oh, what the hell...

681 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:48:40am

re: #639 SixDegrees

I shop a bit at WalMart, but am very cautious about it. Sometimes the prices aren't better than other stores, and sometimes the quality is not the same.
I'm the retailer's nightmare - I'll go to a store for the sale items and not buy anything else.

But we are eligible to shop at the commissary, and I take full advantage of it. They aren't always the cheapest on everything, either, but overall our grocery bill is much, much lower than it would be if I shopped at any of the local chains.

682 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:49:11am

re: #652 wrenchwench

A new father once said to me, "You know why God made babies so cute? So you don't kill 'em!" (He was a great father, btw.)

Heh. We don't even like to kill cute animals. Ugly ones, not such a problem. You could speculate that human influence will eventually result in a planet full of irresistably cute critters all with lovely soft fur, benificent, smiley faces and huge you-just-can't-kill-me-even-if-you-try eyes. Planet of the furbies!

683 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:49:46am

re: #667 zee Huh
Karma: -6
Registered since: Jun 15, 2004 at 11:14 am
(Logged in)

No. of comments posted: 292
No. of links posted: 0

Please go fuck yourself. Yes you can!

684 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:49:59am

re: #682 Jimmah
Ewok hell.

685 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:50:01am

re: #676 MacGregor

What is that saying? You know who your real friends are when you are broke...something like that.

686 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:50:19am

re: #667 zee

WTF. Fuck off arsehole. Find somewhere else to spew your shit.

Oh and goodbye have a rotten fucking day.

687 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:50:24am

Dear god what is that stink?

The sanitation engineer with deal with it shortly.

688 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:51:10am

re: #668 Afrocity Well of course it still goes in their pockets, but at least you didn't give it to 'em before you had to!
(trying......HARD.........to look at the bright side of things!).

689 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:51:26am

BBIAB!

690 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:51:30am
691 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:51:33am

re: #667 zee

You are way out of line asshole.

692 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:51:38am

re: #667 zee

What a 'charming' post!

Have you now fulfilled your weekly limit, as you've managed only just about 300 posts in five years?
I hope it didn't strain too many of your little grey cells.

693 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:51:49am

Afrocity,
Have you considered buying a home?

694 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:52:03am

re: #667 zee

Do you soil yourself in public often?

695 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:52:07am

re: #687 jcm
Just hang on a minute. I want to see if it can defend that shit cogently and logically. I know, I know it isn't gonna happen.

696 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:52:30am

Zee steenk ees nau-zee-ating.

697 MacGregor  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:52:33am

re: #676 MacGregor

It's of good character to honor truth over relationships. There's only one truth, but lots of chances to make new friends.

698 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:52:46am

re: #667 zee

Well I would say nice knowing you, but why should I lie?
Please go screw yourself.

699 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:53:10am

re: #667 zee

If you don't like Charles or LGF, so be it. Don't come here. However, your comment is not just insulting and rude (especially considering that Charles is your host here) but childish. It says far more about you than it does about Charles.

700 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:53:49am

re: #693 Wishing

Afrocity,
Have you considered buying a home?

I can't make a 20% down payment on anything in Chicago. I rent a 1200 square foot condo for $1900 a month. Owner asked if I want to buy it at $400,000 but I don't have 20%.

701 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:54:00am

re: #699 goddessoftheclassroom
At least I got to use scurrilous in a sentence!

702 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:54:07am

re: #699 goddessoftheclassroom

If you don't like Charles or LGF, so be it. Don't come here. However, your comment is not just insulting and rude (especially considering that Charles is your host here) but childish. It says far more about you than it does about Charles.

So hard to potty train some.....

703 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:54:28am

Good morning Goddess!
People like to sneak in when Charles isn't around.
Such cowards.

704 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:54:57am

re: #666 SixDegrees

?

They have made a decision to reduce the number of Stock Keeping Units that they carry, to carry only the top selling items and sizes of those items. As people notice that they have to shop elsewhere to get their preferred items they will tend to pick up other items at the new store, also.

More and more people will note that Wal-Mart is more convenient than price dominant, and as the convenience factor declines, so will Wal-Mart.

It is the old retail 80/20 rule; eighty percent of your profit comes from 20 percent of your items.

705 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:54:59am

What is with these posters with greenfootball avatars and low karma but registered in 2004? Get a life.

706 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:55:19am

re: #700 Afrocity

I can't make a 20% down payment on anything in Chicago. I rent a 1200 square foot condo for $1900 a month. Owner asked if I want to buy it at $400,000 but I don't have 20%.

My wife and I lived in low end apartment and saved like crazy building up the down. It's not easy.

707 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:55:19am

re: #681 lurking faith

I shop a bit at WalMart, but am very cautious about it. Sometimes the prices aren't better than other stores, and sometimes the quality is not the same.
I'm the retailer's nightmare - I'll go to a store for the sale items and not buy anything else.

But we are eligible to shop at the commissary, and I take full advantage of it. They aren't always the cheapest on everything, either, but overall our grocery bill is much, much lower than it would be if I shopped at any of the local chains.

I'm not rigid about where I spend my money; it's a preference, not a mandate, that I shop locally whenever possible. And sometimes, it just doesn't make sense - if something at Target is half what it is anywhere else, and it's something I need, I'm there.

WalMart in particular, though, just bugs the shit out of me. They deliberately plunk store down in a new area and run it at a loss for up to several years - whatever it takes to run the small, local businesses out of the market - and then the sales mysteriously vanish once there's no competition left. The vast majority of their goods come from China, where they are produced with state-subsidized labor or outright slave labor. And it isn't much of a surprise to learn that the unions are circling - they treat their workers like shit, from what I've heard, and it's no surprise that unions are biting them in the ass as a result. There's just nothing to like about them that I can find.

708 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:55:31am

re: #667 zee

Another unhappy creationist moron prepares to bite the dust.

709 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:55:41am

re: #700 Afrocity

I can't make a 20% down payment on anything in Chicago. I rent a 1200 square foot condo for $1900 a month. Owner asked if I want to buy it at $400,000 but I don't have 20%.

The 20% isn't always required, and why do you have to live in THAT state, anyway?

710 itellu3times  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:55:45am

re: #635 jcm

Redistribution is based on the fundamentally flawed notion of zero sum. (Total wealth in the World is fixed and finite). When you make that flawed assumption, it's easy to make the supposition that because A has wealth, A deprives B of wealth. When that is accepted it's easy to make the moral argument that it is "right" therefore to take wealth from A and give it to B.

I don't think that's always the case, jcm. An alternative argument is non-economic, that society should seek happiness for the greatest number. So, rather than have one happy billionaire (used to be millionaire!) and a thousand starving peons, we do a redistribution.

I'm not saying that works (it mostly doesn't), but that's the theory, and it's basically non-economic.

711 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:55:52am

re: #702 jcm
Who has the record for negative karma? Space Jesus or that other poster I can't remember. The crater was big enough to hide an aircraft carrier in.

712 lawhawk  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:56:10am

re: #604 Afrocity

Please tell me what I have to do to get a refund? I have not got one since 1996. I am serious. I always come out owing them $3,000-$5,000. Why do they penalize single people?

It may be that you're not withholding enough taxes either, in which case you might benefit from additional withholding so you don't get hit with a huge tax bill at the end of the year.

It sounds like you don't itemize your return, in which case you'd be getting the standard deduction. If you're a homeowner, that's the wrong way to go, since you can deduct interest and taxes on the mortgage, and I saw a big increase in tax refund as a result of deducting the interest and taxes.

Some other ways to reduce your tax burden: IRAs, flex spending accounts for health care, student loan interest deductions, energy star credits for certain home improvements.

More tips here, here, and here.

713 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:56:14am

Morning Lizards. I'm currently typing this from my new super-sweet Studio 15 laptop. The AC/DC is cranked, the coffee's made, and the weather's pleasant.

714 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:56:18am

re: #705 Afrocity

What is with these posters with greenfootball avatars and low karma but registered in 2004? Get a life.

They live in mom's basement, and only get to use the computer when they remember to take out the trash.

715 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:56:27am

re: #667 zee

You piece of shit..Where do you get off saying that?
You come here throwing down the insults?
Please make one more post before you are banned here forever...
I want a piece of you.. you little fuck...

716 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:57:05am

re: #704 razorbacker

The aisles have been getting wider and wider at the local Super Wal-Mart. I wondered whether it was a reaction to the economy.

717 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:57:49am

re: #715 HoosierHoops
It's now lurking. It has been asked politely to come out and defend itself, of course that isn't happening.

718 sunshine  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:58:00am

Morning folks,
can anyone recommend a good antivirus program that is free? My norton about to expire and I don't want to use it again. Any tips greatly appreciated.

719 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:58:14am

re: #715 HoosierHoops

Dont mince words hoop, tell zee idiot what you really think.

720 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:59:02am

re: #701 pingjockey

At least I got to use scurrilous in a sentence!

I noticed and gave you extra vocabulary points! :)

721 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:59:22am

re: #712 lawhawk

I do deduct interest for my student loans. I have 0 dependents down. So I don't claim myself.

722 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:59:34am

re: #718 sunshine

Morning folks,
can anyone recommend a good antivirus program that is free? My norton about to expire and I don't want to use it again. Any tips greatly appreciated.

AVG is free and updates daily, and Norton is a nasty resource hog.

723 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:59:47am

re: #720 goddessoftheclassroom
Thank you ma'am! And how are you today?

724 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:59:53am

re: #718 sunshine

Morning folks,
can anyone recommend a good antivirus program that is free? My norton about to expire and I don't want to use it again. Any tips greatly appreciated.

AVG free and Super Antispyware, both free and I have never had a problem since I have used them, over 4 years for the Avg Free

725 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:59:55am

re: #658 Afrocity

I did not know that a blog was a business.

Well, I think it could be a business if you hope to derive any income from it. Check it out with a sharpster.

726 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:00:01am

re: #645 Afrocity

I have zero dependents and they still get me.

Then you should consider estimating taxes to bring the expected total to at least as much as you paid the previous year. If your total prepayment is at least what your taxes were the previous year (or maybe it's 110 percent of the previous year - not sure), then you won't owe penalties even if you've underpaid.

And it's the interest and penalties that you really need to avoid.

Oh, and always, always use the long form tax returns. If you use the EZ, or even the 1040A, you could be missing credits and deductions that you didn't even know you could take. (In college, I saved a bunch of my friends approx $25 each on the self-paid health insurance credit, which none of us knew about until I saw it on the 1040 form. At that stage of my life, $25 really mattered.)

It's really not harder to do the full 1040, unless it upsets you to leave tons of lines blank. It will take you extra time if it turns out you are eligible for more stuff - but of course then it's worth the extra effort.

Other than that, I'm afraid I can't help you with lowering your actual tax bill... Either you're eligible for stuff or you're not.

727 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:00:20am

The official theme tune of all victims of Charles/LGF derangement syndrome:

728 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:00:49am

re: #711 pingjockey

Who has the record for negative karma? Space Jesus or that other poster I can't remember. The crater was big enough to hide an aircraft carrier in.

Avanti is working on -2,000

729 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:01:12am

re: #710 itellu3times

I don't think that's always the case, jcm. An alternative argument is non-economic, that society should seek happiness for the greatest number. So, rather than have one happy billionaire (used to be millionaire!) and a thousand starving peons, we do a redistribution.

I'm not saying that works (it mostly doesn't), but that's the theory, and it's basically non-economic.

That's another theory to base it on, the "moral" argument. But again (and just to be a tad argumentative) it assumes the peons can't make their own, that the have takes from the have nots. The taking may be opportunity or product, the assumption of; Because the Haves have, the have nots don't have is still there.

730 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:01:15am

re: #718 sunshine

Morning folks,
can anyone recommend a good antivirus program that is free? My norton about to expire and I don't want to use it again. Any tips greatly appreciated.

AVG is great.

731 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:01:25am

re: #723 pingjockey

Thank you ma'am! And how are you today?

I'm fine, thanks!

I'm having a ball teaching Romeo and Juliet. I just love the way Shakespeare uses language.

732 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:01:36am

re: #728 Afrocity
It wasn't avanti. It was a female lizard, IIRC.

733 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:01:40am

re: #704 razorbacker

They have made a decision to reduce the number of Stock Keeping Units that they carry, to carry only the top selling items and sizes of those items. As people notice that they have to shop elsewhere to get their preferred items they will tend to pick up other items at the new store, also.

More and more people will note that Wal-Mart is more convenient than price dominant, and as the convenience factor declines, so will Wal-Mart.

It is the old retail 80/20 rule; eighty percent of your profit comes from 20 percent of your items.

I hadn't heard. You're right - they're shooting themselves in the foot with this approach. I've noticed the same thing at Home Depot (also known as The Borg) and Bed, Bath and Beyond; they're reducing selection, leaving behind only the low- and mid-range crap that I don't want to buy.

Not a smart business model. But today's corporate geniuses are fixated on lining their own pockets in as short a period of time as possible, then bailing and leaving the mess for the next guy. Long term thinking doesn't come naturally to them.

734 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:01:46am

re: #718 sunshine

Morning folks,
can anyone recommend a good antivirus program that is free? My norton about to expire and I don't want to use it again. Any tips greatly appreciated.

Ask Hoops, he's in the house!

735 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:02:03am

re: #730 Erik The Red

AVG is great.

How do I download that?

736 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:02:11am

Wow-I came back in, was trying to catch up-and saw that troll 'zee' post, and hit the report button. Must've been a lot of us did, because it disappeared as I WATCHED! Charles new digs sure does have ALL the amenities(Sp?).......:>))

737 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:02:22am

re: #726 lurking faith

Oh, and always, always use the long form tax returns. If you use the EZ, or even the 1040A, you could be missing credits and deductions that you didn't even know you could take.


Well maybe that is the problem. I use 1040 A.

738 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:02:25am

Dunno if this has been talked about here, but a week ago, a lovely juicy scandal, involving special advisers to Gord and the NuLab party broke here.
It was about a disgusting smear campaign against Tory politicians, started by a civil servant at No 10 Downing Street.
The scalp went to an independent, right-wing blogger, and its not over yet.
It was in all the papers, and the latest is that a true old Labour MP now has resigned because of this.

Good stuff!

739 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:02:57am

re: #735 VegasRick

How do I download that?

Google AVG Free: Be careful to get the FREE one.

740 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:02:57am

re: #716 wrenchwench

The aisles have been getting wider and wider at the local Super Wal-Mart. I wondered whether it was a reaction to the economy.

No, they've made a conscious decision to 'look' more like Target, or Kohl's. A 'upscale' discounter. Wal-Mart is a retailer in constant flux. They are continually re-inventing themselves.

The primary advantage that they now enjoy is their 'retail link' software. It is truly amazing, the supplier/retailer relationship that they develop.

741 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:03:00am

re: #699 goddessoftheclassroom
Amen {goddess} - say, how are you this morning?

742 CynicalConservative  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:03:02am

re: #732 pingjockey

It wasn't avanti. It was a female lizard, IIRC.

AnneFrance got -483 for a single comment I believe. I don't have the link to the comment handy though. Back during the elections.

743 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:03:08am

re: #731 goddessoftheclassroom
I was reading a Louis L'Amor western and one of the characters said Shakespeare was the only writer/poet who sounded like he ate red meat!

744 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:03:09am

re: #732 pingjockey

It wasn't avanti. It was a female lizard, IIRC.

Avanta?

745 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:03:26am

re: #720 goddessoftheclassroom

I noticed and gave you extra vocabulary points! :)

Hiya, {goddess}!
I hope you had a wonderful Easter Holiday!

746 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:03:40am

re: #735 VegasRick

How do I download that?

[Link: free.avg.com...]

747 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:03:46am

re: #735 VegasRick

How do I download that?

AVG

748 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:03:48am

re: #739 Wishing

Google AVG Free: Be careful to get the FREE one.

Thanks!

749 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:03:57am
750 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:03:57am

re: #732 pingjockey

It wasn't avanti. It was a female lizard, IIRC.

Ann France perhaps?

751 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:04:12am

re: #742 CynicalConservative
That's it. Don't recall the total negative though.

752 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:04:20am

re: #747 Erik The Red

AVG

re: #748 VegasRick

Thanks!

You too!

753 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:04:27am

re: #738 yma o hyd


Hi.
I don't understand this sentence: "The scalp went to an independent, right-wing blogger, and its not over yet."

Did the Labor guys "admit" to be being part of a (false?) smear campaign? What was the smear?

754 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:04:54am

re: #747 Erik The Red

AVG


The pay version is great. Have it on my 4 puters.

755 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:05:05am

Clean up on aisle 749.

756 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:05:17am

re: #746 DEZes

[Link: free.avg.com...]

Teach a man to fish, etc.

757 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:05:35am

re: #746 DEZes

[Link: free.avg.com...]

Thanks DEZ. This is one of the many reasons I love this place.

758 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:05:56am

Don't feed the troll.

759 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:06:00am

re: #738 yma o hyd

It has been fun to watch, from a safe distance.

Actually getting in trouble for lying about your political foes? What a quaint concept.

760 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:06:06am

re: #741 realwest

Amen {goddess} - say, how are you this morning?

{realwest}

I'm fine, thanks! I've got to get moving soon, though!

761 itellu3times  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:06:08am

re: #729 jcm

That's another theory to base it on, the "moral" argument. But again (and just to be a tad argumentative) it assumes the peons can't make their own, that the have takes from the have nots. The taking may be opportunity or product, the assumption of; Because the Haves have, the have nots don't have is still there.

That argument certainly gets made, but it doesn't have to be - the difference can speak for itself, without cause. Indeed, I suppose I've heard arguments (from current democrats - Obama?) that the redistribution leads to an *increased* sum of happiness, economic output, etc. Might even be some truth to that - if done with care and moderation, after all it sort of does describe our entire government system which, overall, seems to work reasonably well, Paulians to the contrary! But like any tool or machine it can be misused, in the hands of idiots.

762 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:06:08am

re: #700 Afrocity

I can't make a 20% down payment on anything in Chicago. I rent a 1200 square foot condo for $1900 a month. Owner asked if I want to buy it at $400,000 but I don't have 20%.

How seriously have you looked into your mortgage options? Even in the current market, 20% is not necessarily a hard and fast requirement, especially if your credit is otherwise good, and there are programs to help first-time homebuyers. (Plus, if you can get it done before this December, there's a serious one-time income tax credit.)

763 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:06:39am

re: #749 zee
You are delusional.
Stinky, let it stay for a while. Need to get pumped up to do yard work!

764 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:06:58am
765 sunshine  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:07:21am

Thanks all! Will give it a try.

766 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:07:31am

re: #750 kansas
That is possible too. Damn CRS disease! (can't remember shit)

767 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:07:34am

re: #749 zee

Suicide by Stinky, is it?

Don't care how you get yourself banned - but attacking another Lizard, and especially rw, in such disgusting fashion just shows what a narrow-minded, infantile loser you yourself are.

768 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:07:55am

re: #755 kansas

Clean up on aisle 749.

I'm guessing zee is Glenn Beck's screen name.

769 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:08:04am

re: #766 pingjockey

That is possible too. Damn CRS disease! (can't remember shit)

I just remember shit that doesn't do me any good. Like that.

770 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:08:09am

re: #762 lurking faith

But isn't that what caused the mortgage crises? People not putting 20% down and getting mortgage companies that would allow them to get around that?

771 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:08:09am

re: #749 zee

See ya, fuckhead!

772 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:08:11am

re: #758 Afrocity

Don't feed the troll.

Not feeding eating. BBQ ready in 5 minutes. BYOB.

773 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:08:15am

re: #731 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm fine, thanks!

I'm having a ball teaching Romeo and Juliet. I just love the way Shakespeare uses language.

Bah! Romeo and Juliet is over taught. I wish schools would teach Othello or Hamlet outside of Shakespearean elective classes. Othello is a way way better story. Though I have to admit that Julius Caesar is still an awesome story. I had a blast reading the part of Marc Antony in class.

774 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:08:49am

re: #749 zee
Go piss up a rope. BTW, insulting RW is a very, very bad thing. May the viruses of a thousand pissant hackers infest your computer.

775 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:09:02am

re: #743 pingjockey

I was reading a Louis L'Amor western and one of the characters said Shakespeare was the only writer/poet who sounded like he ate red meat!

Shakespeare was brilliant, He knew how to please audiences and get around the censorship of the time. His verbal imagery and using of blank verse is virtuoso. His characters have real human strengths and weaknesses.

I tell my students that Shakespeare isn't brilliant because of his plots--he stoleborrowled them all--but because of what he did with them.

776 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:09:29am

re: #768 SixDegrees
Mwahahaha! Good one.

777 Bloodnok  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:09:37am

re: #749 zee

Go back to your little blog and post your cretinous thoughts for nobody to see. You will not be missed.

You've already gotten more attention here today than you've gotten in your blog's history. That should tell you something about the quality of your opinions.

778 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:09:42am

re: #749 zee

Congrads..That was probably one of the ugliest most immature post I've ever read on the Internet...If your station in life was higher than my dogs poop I'd respond in kind...But it would be considered child abuse in most states..
Fuck you zee and the tin foil hat you rode in on.

779 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:09:43am

re: #749 zee

You will achieve your goal faster if you wait a little. Charles still lives on the west coast, and may not be up yet.

780 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:09:44am

re: #749 zee

Do you kiss your mother with that disgusting hole you call a mouth?

781 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:09:54am

re: #745 yma o hyd

Hiya, {goddess}!
I hope you had a wonderful Easter Holiday!

{yma o hyd}

I did, thanks! I had a wonderful visit from my brother and s-i-l.

782 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:10:01am

re: #770 Afrocity

But isn't that what caused the mortgage crises? People not putting 20% down and getting mortgage companies that would allow them to get around that?

Nah. That's not really the problem. Coming up with 20% is a significant amount and many first time home-owners can get around that. I got lucky because I had a VA loan.

783 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:11:03am

re: #759 razorbacker

It has been fun to watch, from a safe distance.

Actually getting in trouble for lying about your political foes? What a quaint concept.

Well - I think the uproar was rightly about the perpetrator being a civil servant, i.e. someone paid by taxpayers and supposedly not party-political, and because this man is actually working at No 10 Downing Street, in the heart of the government.

And thats before taking into account the truly disgusting and misogynist lies that creep tried to spread.

Te other nice thing about thsi affair is how it put all the MFM journos right into the spotlight, since they all knew that creep and kept quiet about his lies because they wanted to be kept 'in the loop' ...

784 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:11:05am
785 Miss Trixie  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:12:07am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

The sun has disappeared and we've a drizzly Spring day. The tulips I had thought the squirrels ravished are coming up and I can't wait to see their sunny blooms in a week or two.

{realwest} Good morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* So glad to see you today!

786 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:12:14am

re: #780 DEZes
It doesn't have a mother, trolls reproduce by fission. Like ameba's'.

787 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:12:30am

re: #761 itellu3times

That argument certainly gets made, but it doesn't have to be - the difference can speak for itself, without cause. Indeed, I suppose I've heard arguments (from current democrats - Obama?) that the redistribution leads to an *increased* sum of happiness, economic output, etc. Might even be some truth to that - if done with care and moderation, after all it sort of does describe our entire government system which, overall, seems to work reasonably well, Paulians to the contrary! But like any tool or machine it can be misused, in the hands of idiots.

I think the best reply to that comes from Goldwater's Conscience of a Conservative, where he defines a significant difference between liberal and conservative. Liberals only see the material wealth, conservative see the spiritual that what is gained by working and producing has it's own intrinsic benefit beyond material wealth. Essentially when a person receives unearned benefits they could have earned on their own, it diminishes them.

788 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:12:35am

re: #770 Afrocity

But isn't that what caused the mortgage crises? People not putting 20% down and getting mortgage companies that would allow them to get around that?

No. People not paying caused the crisis.

789 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:12:44am

re: #773 ConservatismNow!

Bah! Romeo and Juliet is over taught. I wish schools would teach Othello or Hamlet outside of Shakespearean elective classes. Othello is a way way better story. Though I have to admit that Julius Caesar is still an awesome story. I had a blast reading the part of Marc Antony in class.

We teach R&J in 9th grade as an intro to Shakespeare. They read Othello and Macbeth as seniors. I think 9th graders are more willing to give the play a chance because the main characters are closer to their own age.

I do love Julius Caesar, though!

790 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:12:57am

re: #737 Afrocity

Well maybe that is the problem. I use 1040 A.

You won't necessarily do better with the 1040, but I strongly urge you to look at it every year to see what it allows you.

791 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:13:35am

re: #784 zee

You are not even a "good" troll. No fun at all. Again fuck off and get a life.

GAZE

792 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:13:42am

re: #784 zee
We did ask nicely for a cogent arguement for your posts(?). Haven't heard anything but bile and vile.

793 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:13:50am

re: #749 zee

You're pathetic. You could remain civil and argue your point, but then you know your silly arguments would be destroyed by the people here. Much easier to stick your tongue out, deliberately get banned and then scurry back to your hole and get some kudos from your fellow morons for your 'heroic act of defiance', huh?

All you have really done is run away from the argument - you're a stupid childish coward.

PS singling out for attack someone who is currently having severe health problems just shows what a piece of scum you are.

794 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:14:16am

Charles and Stinky are awake.

795 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:14:39am
796 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:14:39am

re: #753 Lincolntf

Hi.
I don't understand this sentence: "The scalp went to an independent, right-wing blogger, and its not over yet."

Did the Labor guys "admit" to be being part of a (false?) smear campaign? What was the smear?

They could not wriggle out of it - the e-mails were sent to that blogger, who then sent them to the big Sunday papers and the Beeb.
It was the proverbial smoking gun - and both creeps involved had 'previous'.
Worse - they were both known to the political journalists of all MFM, and those, natch, have kept quiet about things like that before, so as not to lose their access.

Now the second-row journos and NuLab 'friends' are trying their best to smear that blogger.

797 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:15:06am

re: #793 Jimmah

Zee said bad things about Real West that is a crime that is punishable by blocking.

798 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:15:19am

re: #785 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪

The sun has disappeared and we've a drizzly Spring day. The tulips I had thought the squirrels ravished are coming up and I can't wait to see their sunny blooms in a week or two.

{realwest} Good morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* So glad to see you today!

Good morning miss trixie! Isn't it a beautiful day out? Hope today finds you well...You should shop for new spring shoes today..Remember when we were talking about you needing new winter shoes when it was getting cold..Now it's all flip flops now sweetheart!

799 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:15:20am

Ignore it.
Don't even ding it.

UberGAZE.

800 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:15:22am

re: #707 SixDegrees Well you're certainly right about Wal-Mart's "predatory" business practices in opening stores in new areas, but I have to disagree with you about the unions.
There WAS a time when Unions were necessary and GOOD for the American Economy. But now GM - GM!- is preparing to file for bankruptcy protection in spite of the BILLIONS the taxpayers gave 'em and a significant part of the reason is the UAW (to which I was a member in a galaxy far, far away!) - according to something I read in the WSJ (can't find the damn link, sorry) the average Production Line worker at GM got over $70 a hour wages and benefits. IF they only worked a 40 hour week, that means in terms of wages and benefits they made over $140,000 a year. No overtime included. Compare and contrast to the "Japanese" car makers who make their cars AND parts here in the US who make iirc, $48 an hour wages and benefits, that's a little under $100,000 a year - no overtime included.
So while I think A LOT of GM's problems came from crappy management - top to middle tiers, where are all the UAW workers for GM going to go to make that kind of wages and benefits? Or anything close to it?
As the late, great George Carlin once said "The primary job of a Union Executive today is to make sure he never becomes a member of the working class."

801 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:15:37am

re: #794 Erik The Red
Is it a refugee form GCP, or is it Pammy in drag?

802 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:16:25am

Thanks, Charles and Stinky!

Can someone open a few windows!

*PHEW*

803 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:16:29am

re: #799 jcm

Ignore it.
Don't even ding it.

UberGAZE.

MAXIMUM GAZE!

804 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:16:30am

re: #774 pingjockey

Go piss up a rope. BTW, insulting RW is a very, very bad thing. May the viruses of a thousand pissant hackers infest your computer.

Excellent curse!
Well said, {pingjockey}!

805 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:16:32am

Zee idiot haz left zee building.

806 Bloodnok  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:16:47am

re: #795 zee

Before the hour is out the world will go back to ignoring you. How does that feel? Choose your words carefully. This is the last time anyone will be reading them.

807 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:17:12am

Zee is jealous.
Charles and RW and the Hoopster are men.

808 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:17:31am

Less than 300 posts in 5 years, what the hell?

809 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:17:34am

re: #710 itellu3times
Excellent comment! Just one tiny quibble: "I'm not saying that works (it mostly doesn't), but that's the theory, and it's basically non-economic."
Uh, can y'all tell us ONE place where it HAS worked?

810 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:17:39am

re: #797 Afrocity

Zee said bad things about Real West that is a crime that is punishable by blocking.

You don't come in here an crap on RW, that'll rile up a whole bunch of lizards.

811 doppelganglander  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:17:47am

re: #770 Afrocity

But isn't that what caused the mortgage crises? People not putting 20% down and getting mortgage companies that would allow them to get around that?

Hi, Afrocity! You should definitely look into your mortgage options. You would very likely qualify for an FHA mortgage, which would allow you to put down as little as 3%. Get a 30 year fixed (or better yet, 15 year fixed, if you can manage the payments). The problems in the mortgage meltdown were at least partially caused by people lying about their income (or having a mortgage broker who lied on their behalf), buying homes they couldn't afford, and getting adjustable rate mortgages that shot up after 2 years. And make sure the asking price is what the place is really worth. (I know a ton about real estate through my work, and I'd be happy to talk to you about it offline if you're interested.)

812 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:17:57am

re: #796 yma o hyd

Thanks for the rundown. What were the "lies" about? Actually I should just go look it up, shouldn't I?

This is one part of the story that I could have guessed...

"Now the second-row journos and NuLab 'friends' are trying their best to smear that blogger."

813 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:18:13am

re: #804 yma o hyd
Good curses without four letter words is tough!

814 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:18:16am

re: #805 DEZes

Zee idiot haz left zee building.

But we're going need new carpet.....

815 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:18:18am

re: #801 pingjockey

Is it a refugee form GCP, or is it Pammy in drag?

WTF-I saw its' post disappar and it be banned-over a hundred posts back-the post disappeared after I hit report (and it was banned)! How is it posting again, Charles, Stinky?

816 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:18:50am

I'd venture to say quite a few of us are here because of people like that.
He hates Kos but is just as bad. Can't stand either one of 'em.

817 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:19:10am

re: #815 Pietr

WTF-I saw its' post disappar and it be banned-over a hundred posts back-the post disappeared after I hit report (and it was banned)! How is it posting again, Charles, Stinky?

Me thinks just "deleted" not banned.

818 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:19:40am

re: #815 Pietr
It was just deleted, the post that is. Stinky hasn't whacked it with the ban stick...yet.

819 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:19:42am

re: #795 zee

(with my steely basilisk glare) You've made your point. Don't you dare insult the other guests and my friends. People who feel the need to hurt others are simply pathetic.

{realwest}
{HoosierHoops}

820 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:19:42am

re: #811 doppelganglander

Thanks. I will look into it as it would be nice to buy the condo I am in.
There has never been a homeowner in my family. That would be quite a feat for me.

821 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:20:03am

re: #715 HoosierHoops
Good lord, Hoops! Why on earth would you want any part of him, much less a piece of 'em?!
Ewwww!
:)

822 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:20:57am

re: #821 realwest
Buzzard bait. Troll buttocks make good buzzard bait.

823 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:20:57am

It's probably already over at LFG2 bragging about it's courage.

824 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:21:11am

Sprechen zee fuck-off.

825 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:21:14am

Good day, lizards!
A brand new scam in my inbox this morning... looks like the scammers are really getting desperate these days.

Anyone here have the location of our countrys' Christian guestbook? Just wondering.

Greetings in the name of God,

Please let this not sound strange to you, for my only surviving lawyer who would have done this died early this year.

To that effect, I prayed and searched and got your email id from your country's Christian guestbook. My real names are Mrs.Rosemary Burrows from Texas, but people who knew used to call me 'Rose"B" I am 78 years old.

For a long time, I am diagnosed with cancer of the breast which is presently almost affecting my sensory organs. From all indication my conditions is really deteriorating and getting worse. It is quite obvious that, according to my doctors they have advised me that I may not live for the next few months, this is because my ill-stage has gotten to a very bad state.

I was brought up from a motherless babies home and got married to a man who was my late husband for twenty years of childless.

My husband died in a fatal motor accident, before his death we were true Christians. Since his death I decided not to re-marry,
I sold all our assets and deposited the sum of US$1.2million with a security company which is still at present with the Security Company and the management of the Security Company notified me last week to come forward and receive the money because its account has been dormant for so long or I should rather issue a letter of authorization to someone to receive it on my behalf since I can not come over there personally because of the condition of my health.

As I am writing this letter to you, I am using my 14 inch laptop computer in a hospital here in Australia where I have been undergoing treatment for cancer. I have completely lost the ability to talk.

It is my last wish to see that this money is invested in any organization of your choice and distributed each year among other charity homes, the less privileg! ed and the motherless babies home.

I want you as God fearing person, to also use this money to fund churches, orphanages and widows. I took this decision, before I rest in peace because my time will soon be up. As soon as I receive your reply I shall give you the contact of the Security Company.

I will also issue you a Letter of Authorization that will prove you as the new beneficiary of my Estate fund. Please assure me that you will act accordingly as I stated herein by replying to me through this email (rosemaryburrow1780@gmail.com).
Nowadays there are so much scams going on in the internet and it is diffcult to trust but i don't know why the Holy spirit still approved

me to email you about this out of few email addresses i have from the internet,yours was the only one that was approved for me to contact.

Waiting to hear from you soon
Yours truly,
Sister Rosemary Burrows.

826 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:21:17am

re: #812 Lincolntf

Thanks for the rundown. What were the "lies" about? Actually I should just go look it up, shouldn't I?

This is one part of the story that I could have guessed...

"Now the second-row journos and NuLab 'friends' are trying their best to smear that blogger."

The lies were disgusting sexual slurs on Tory MPs, one being a woman MP.
And as that wasn't sufficient, they also had a go at the wives of some Tory frontbenchers.

827 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:21:23am

re: #822 pingjockey

Buzzard bait. Troll buttocks make good buzzard bait.

Not fit for the BBQ, stake it out in the desert.

828 avanti  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:21:49am

Morning all, I'm here, record approaching negative Karma and all.:)

829 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:21:53am

re: #823 jcm
That's the other blog I was trying to think of. Home of misfit lizard wannabes'

830 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:21:58am

re: #820 Afrocity

Thanks. I will look into it as it would be nice to buy the condo I am in.
There has never been a homeowner in my family. That would be quite a feat for me.

Good luck! I hope you are able to get it.

831 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:21:59am

re: #820 Afrocity

Thanks. I will look into it as it would be nice to buy the condo I am in.
There has never been a homeowner in my family. That would be quite a feat for me.

Let doppel help you with information, then take the leap. You will not be sorry!

832 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:22:29am

re: #813 pingjockey

Good curses without four letter words is tough!

It is indeed - I tend to use the good old Anglo-Saxon expressions meself, sigh ...

833 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:22:42am
834 So?  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:23:11am

Charleton Heston's offspring.

835 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:23:19am

re: #828 avanti
Morning back atcha!

836 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:23:22am

re: #825 Irish Rose

Oh brother. If these spammers spent half as much time getting a real income source.....

837 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:23:39am

re: #789 goddessoftheclassroom

We teach R&J in 9th grade as an intro to Shakespeare. They read Othello and Macbeth as seniors. I think 9th graders are more willing to give the play a chance because the main characters are closer to their own age.

I do love Julius Caesar, though!

I suppose that R&J could be considered an intro to Shakespeare. The problem I have with it, as I stated, is that it's overexposed. There are several other very good plays that could be inserted into that intro spot as an alternative. Taming of the Shrew is a popular story too since they did the movie 10 Things I hate About You. Another one would be A Midsummer Night's Dream

838 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:23:58am

I think we ought to let him go.
From Pee Wee's Big Adventure

839 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:24:12am

re: #833 zee
Aren't you special.

840 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:24:39am

re: #829 pingjockey

That's the other blog I was trying to think of. Home of misfit lizard wannabes'

I was chuckling to myself, in a bar if a guy said that about RW he'd have been tossed through the window in a heartbeat.

841 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:24:43am

re: #770 Afrocity

But isn't that what caused the mortgage crises? People not putting 20% down and getting mortgage companies that would allow them to get around that?

Not really. The real trouble was:

1. giving mortgages to people with lousy credit, who could not reasonably be expected to make the payments, and

2. interest-only mortgages, where the monthly payments covered only the interest and never started to pay down the principal, and

3. adjustable-rate mortgages, so that after a certain period, the nice low interest rate would jump drastically, and the buyer would be hit with monthly payments waaaay higher than he'd been paying before - and a lot of people had bought ALL the house they could afford at the lower payment, and had no financial room to handle the increase.

If you have good credit and sufficient income to make the payments on a 400K mortgage, the lack of a down payment is not necessarily a deal breaker. However, do take care to factor in the property tax to your annual costs. And you'll need to set aside money for repairs. Which reminds me: Get the place inspected before you agree to purchase!

842 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:24:57am

re: #838 kansas

I think we ought to let him go.
From Pee Wee's Big Adventure

Zee Wee's little rant.

843 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:25:21am

re: #832 yma o hyd
I thought about that one for a little while. This asshat is deserving of much more.

844 Miss Trixie  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:25:21am

Hoosier

I like fliplops but can't wear them - messes with my back muscles and I ache for days.

I've a pair of Blue Jays squawking about the birdbath just now and they're huge! They're battling over who get to bathe first and I've never heard such a rucus - even the stray cats scram when they're around.

845 doppelganglander  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:25:22am

re: #642 yma o hyd

You're back! I was getting worried about you, especially when reine told me you'd been under the weather. I'm glad to see you here.

I wanted to let you know that Miss Nina sailed through her surgery with flying colors. The growth was benign and no further treatment is needed. She'll be getting the stitches out and the collar taken off on Monday. I appreciate your kind thoughts during this time.

846 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:25:34am

Morning lizardom.

Mrs Shug and I saw Tony Bennett last night, and the dude can still belt out the songs.

847 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:26:06am
848 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:26:10am

It's a beautiful day, and Mr. faith wants me to go out and play.

Bye, all!

849 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:26:30am

re: #841 lurking faith

If you have good credit and sufficient income to make the payments on a 400K mortgage, the lack of a down payment is not necessarily a deal breaker. However, do take care to factor in the property tax to your annual costs. And you'll need to set aside money for repairs. Which reminds me: Get the place inspected before you agree to purchase!
And the Insurance!

850 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:26:33am

re: #840 jcm
After it fell 'up' two or three flights of stairs.

851 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:26:38am

re: #760 goddessoftheclassroom What, you're moving too? Ya know just cause Charles moved doesn't mean we all have to.......oh, wait......I see what you meant.
nevermind!

852 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:26:42am

re: #826 yma o hyd

The casual wretchedness of the Left never ceases to amaze me.

853 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:26:56am

re: #823 jcm

I try not to mention them by name - they get off on the attention.

854 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:27:21am

re: #833 zee

zee you later scumbag

855 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:27:40am

re: #842 VegasRick

Zee Wee's little rant.

Wasn't even in the 'rant' category.

Its obsession with fecal matter and with gay slurs shows exceedingly well that this is an infantile loser who doesn't even have the mental capability of proper ranting.

UberGAZE, as jcm said ...

856 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:28:02am

re: #847 Pietr

I'll take that as a compliment. I live in San Antonio, drop by anytime.......

Don't quote the trolls. Use the reply button. If Charles deletes the original comment yours will go to.

857 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:28:17am

re: #795 zee

You really can't get me too worked up.. That's the best insults you have? Do you really know who you are dealing with? Trash talking 101..
Find a weak spot and exploit it.. I can't be me being charles butt boy cause I don't know him and in over 10000 posts here he has said like 2 things to me...like here is how something works or a quick data fact
I've only asked Charles one thing in all that time..and that was what his fav. guitar was..he never answered me....So really, that tack won't work...
I guess my resume for Charles butt plug isn't good enough you little punk
Let me help you out You need tips to insult my ass?.. It has been said by some..That as a point guard..I really sucked in College...That If I wasn't sitting on benches I was running into them..
Or better yet...Why not insult me personally? Tell me I'm ugly or something..leave Charles out of it...It's you and me pal
/It is just beautiful outside..kind of ironic isn't lizards?

858 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:28:25am

re: #841 lurking faith

Also see if you can finesse the homeowner into throwing in 1 year warranty. It's a big big help for anything that slips through the inspection. We got one and we have already used it to replace the spigot for the washer.

859 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:28:33am

re: #855 yma o hyd
Definetly needs to expand its vocabulary.

860 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:28:47am
861 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:28:58am

re: #764 Erik The Red
Oh no! You quoted from it! That means you'll wind up deleted too!

862 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:28:59am

I've only read one comment from zee.

and I feel like that was one too many

863 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:29:02am

re: #853 Jimmah

I try not to mention them by name - they get off on the attention.

Ahh, yeah thanks......

864 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:29:26am

DON"T QUOTE THE TROLL!

865 albusteve  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:29:49am

GAZE doesn't work anymore....too bad since it is very effective

866 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:30:20am

re: #845 doppelganglander

You're back! I was getting worried about you, especially when reine told me you'd been under the weather. I'm glad to see you here.

I wanted to let you know that Miss Nina sailed through her surgery with flying colors. The growth was benign and no further treatment is needed. She'll be getting the stitches out and the collar taken off on Monday. I appreciate your kind thoughts during this time.

Hiya, {doppelganglander}!

Yep - I'm just hanging about for a bit, don't want to risk upsetting the doctor on Monday!

I'm so glad Miss Nina is well, and all is done and dusted.
That must have been a huge relief for you all! And how wonderful that the growth was benign!
How did she cope with that collar?

867 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:30:20am

re: #767 yma o hyd
He attacked ME? Where? I now want all of 'em, not just a piece like Hoops!

868 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:30:33am

re: #865 albusteve

GAZE doesn't work anymore....too bad since it is very effective

I have to ask. What's GAZE?

869 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:30:56am

I think it's far more effective to point, and giggle, and then laugh, and then ROTFLMAO. No quoting required.

870 Miss Trixie  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:31:00am

Gotta go - a lot of things require my attention today. Have a great day everyone. :D

871 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:31:41am

re: #869 vxbush
That is good strategery!

872 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:31:57am

re: #868 ConservatismNow!

I have to ask. What's GAZE?

Goofy
Asshole
Zee
Exterminated

873 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:32:14am

re: #868 ConservatismNow!

I have to ask. What's GAZE?

Kind of like /ignore

874 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:32:27am

re: #856 Erik The Red

Don't quote the trolls. Use the reply button. If Charles deletes the original comment yours will go to.

Yes, Erik-I should've remembered that.....Sigh....Being a young lizard in an ole man's body is hard......

875 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:32:28am

re: #868 ConservatismNow!

I have to ask. What's GAZE?

GAZE - To glare with silent disapproval at a troll who has intentionally attempted to derail a topic. A sign of non-acknowledgment of a particularly offensive or inflammatory post, and a sign to other commenters not to "feed the troll" (pay attention to a disruptive commenter). Usually written all capitals.
[First documented use: 'davesax' in this thread: The LGF Prayer]

876 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:32:31am

re: #859 pingjockey

Definetly needs to expand its vocabulary.

Hasn't got the grey matter for that - its hard to be insulting when one has just two brain cells knocking about in that space between one's ears ...

877 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:32:41am

re: #867 realwest
I think its still around. Stinky has been deleting posts. No sign of the 'stick' yet.

878 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:32:52am

re: #872 VegasRick

Goofy
Asshole
Zee
Exterminated


Given
A
Zee
Enema

879 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:33:17am
880 doppelganglander  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:33:45am

re: #866 yma o hyd

How did she cope with that collar?


Better than I would have expected. The first day or two was hard, since she kept knocking over her water bowl. She seems to have gotten the hang of it now. One thing she really enjoyed was the walking. Normally we let her out back to do her business, but the vet insisted she only be taken out on a leash, since she could scratch herself on a branch if left unattended. The extra walkies were a lot of fun for her (and me, since the weather has been quite nice).

881 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:33:48am

re: #876 yma o hyd
Maybe we can take up a colection for a Thesaurus?!

882 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:33:50am

re: #877 pingjockey

I think its still around. Stinky has been deleting posts. No sign of the 'stick' yet.

Its still here, and I am quite surprised.

883 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:34:11am

re: #867 realwest

He attacked ME? Where? I now want all of 'em, not just a piece like Hoops!

Yep - he did, in his second and now deleted post today.
Don't worry - Lizards rushed to tear him apart on your behalf!

884 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:34:44am

re: #858 ConservatismNow!

Also see if you can finesse the homeowner into throwing in 1 year warranty. It's a big big help for anything that slips through the inspection. We got one and we have already used it to replace the spigot for the washer.

I saw a book at Borders called Homeowning for Dummies. I think I will buy it.
I usually don't buy those "for Dummies" books but I skimmed through it and it did make sense to a novice like me.

885 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:35:05am

re: #882 DEZes
Early on the left coast for some of us lizards. Stinky is letting us play with it for a while.

886 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:35:10am

re: #857 HoosierHoops

he has said like 2 things to me.

Funny, Charles responds to me all the time. Points out how I'm wrong.

887 albusteve  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:35:34am

re: #872 VegasRick

Goofy
Asshole
Zee
Exterminated

pretty much...ha!

888 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:35:37am

re: #867 realwest

He attacked ME? Where? I now want all of 'em, not just a piece like Hoops!

Momma caught him playing with his tallywhacker again and spanked him. He's upset, you'll have to understand the root of his angst.

889 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:36:27am

re: #867 realwest

Please see my #819... :)

890 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:36:53am

re: #770 Afrocity
No, the mortgage crisis was caused by folks availing themselves of the Community Reinvestment Act which compelled lenders to make loans to poor credit risks or folks with no credit record at all. Thus was born the "subprime mortgage" and you can thank BOTH Carter and Clinton for it!
It used to be that if you didn't put 20% down you had to buy Private Mortgage Insurance - which would pay your mortgage if you defaulted - but that was a chunk of money each month and unlike interest and real estate taxes, isn't tax deductible.

891 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:37:18am

re: #885 pingjockey

Early on the left coast for some of us lizards. Stinky is letting us play with it for a while.

I wonder why its being allowed to keep crapping on the carpet?

892 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:37:44am

re: #880 doppelganglander

Better than I would have expected. The first day or two was hard, since she kept knocking over her water bowl. She seems to have gotten the hang of it now. One thing she really enjoyed was the walking. Normally we let her out back to do her business, but the vet insisted she only be taken out on a leash, since she could scratch herself on a branch if left unattended. The extra walkies were a lot of fun for her (and me, since the weather has been quite nice).

Clever girlie, that Nina!

Extra walkies, even short ones, are definitely good not just for Miss or Master Dog, but for oneself. Madame is on short walks-on-lead as well for a few days, as she damaged her paw: too exuberant romp with a ball, alas.
My fault, shouldn't have let her, but we were enjoying ourselves so much!

893 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:38:04am

re: #884 Afrocity

I saw a book at Borders called Homeowning for Dummies. I think I will buy it.
I usually don't buy those "for Dummies" books but I skimmed through it and it did make sense to a novice like me.

That's a very good idea. Believe me, you want to do as much research into buying a home as possible. Another tip: I don't know if this is the same in Illinois, but here in Oklahoma, the HOMEOWNER pays the realtor commissions. So remember to factor that into your bid. The homeowner won't take your deal if the bid is too low because they still have to pay both realtors.

894 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:38:11am

re: #884 Afrocity

I saw a book at Borders called Homeowning for Dummies. I think I will buy it.
I usually don't buy those "for Dummies" books but I skimmed through it and it did make sense to a novice like me.

Funny how in response to wanting to not pay 5K in taxes everyone wants you to commit to a 400K condo with all the headaches that go along with that. But that's just me. 1900 per month rent and you complain to someone else about maintenance or just leave if you want to? Man. That don't sound 1/2 bad.

895 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:38:19am

Zee is a very confused person. Most likely chronic Auto-erotic asphyxiation has resulted in loss of considerable grey matter

896 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:38:21am

is this real? I missed this? Is this convicted murderer really wearing a "Barack Obama rocks" button?

hmmm.

897 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:38:46am

re: #881 pingjockey

Maybe we can take up a colection for a Thesaurus?!

Nice thought - but would be useless, as I'm sure it wouldn't know how to use a thesaurus ...

898 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:39:07am

re: #891 DEZes
Well, Charles just moved, maybe the new carpet hasn't arrived yet?!

899 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:40:03am

re: #896 FrogMarch

Looking for a pardon, since Hollywood finally convicted one of their own?

900 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:40:09am

re: #856 Erik The Red

Don't quote the trolls. Use the reply button. If Charles deletes the original comment yours will go to.

Well, at least my reply is saved in this post of yours, Erik-since you quoted me, it's all that's left.......:>))

901 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:40:10am

re: #892 yma o hyd

Clever girlie, that Nina!

Extra walkies, even short ones, are definitely good not just for Miss or Master Dog, but for oneself. Madame is on short walks-on-lead as well for a few days, as she damaged her paw: too exuberant romp with a ball, alas.
My fault, shouldn't have let her, but we were enjoying ourselves so much!

On a tangent here:

Every time I see you talk about Madame, I can't help but think back to Laugh-In and the one ventriloquist who voiced Madame (also on Hollywood Squares). She was a hoot! I end up having this rather interesting mental image of your Madame talking with a swagger.....

902 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:40:13am

re: #897 yma o hyd
Crap! Well it was a good idea, kind of. The damn pirates have just took another ship.

903 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:40:19am

re: #894 kansas

Funny how in response to wanting to not pay 5K in taxes everyone wants you to commit to a 400K condo with all the headaches that go along with that. But that's just me. 1900 per month rent and you complain to someone else about maintenance or just leave if you want to? Man. That don't sound 1/2 bad.

But that $1900 in rent could be turned into $1900 in house payments, building equity and causing tax breaks. It's also a point of pride in knowing that you own it (or will own it in 30 years!)

904 swamprat  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:41:37am

re: #749 kansas

Ya got any honest debate?

905 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:42:02am

re: #785 {Miss Trixie}
Hey good morning gorgeous and a *smooch* back atcha!
How are you today?

906 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:42:05am
907 swamprat  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:43:20am

re: #904 swamprat

Ya got any honest debate?


Lets try that again;


re: #749 zee
Ya got any honest debate?

908 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:43:28am

Since I'm currently reading a Dr. Sowell book, I thought I'd share this book list he wrote:

Mind-changing books

909 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:43:50am

re: #901 vxbush

On a tangent here:

Every time I see you talk about Madame, I can't help but think back to Laugh-In and the one ventriloquist who voiced Madame (also on Hollywood Squares). She was a hoot! I end up having this rather interesting mental image of your Madame talking with a swagger.....

Thats pretty close, really: Madame walks and does certain things with a definite swagger!

910 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:44:00am

re: #890 realwest

I got attacked to RW-just b4 you in this quote which is still around within a post-read fast, it may disappear..........

re: #860 Irish Rose

911 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:44:02am

re: #797 Afrocity
Well I don't know if Charles would agree with that sentiment, but I thank you!

912 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:44:21am

re: #908 Sharmuta

Since I'm currently reading a Dr. Sowell book, I thought I'd share this book list he wrote:

Mind-changing books

I am still amazed that you are slogging through it Sharm!

913 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:44:35am

Home ownership isn't for everyone. If it didn't make my wife so happy, I'd be a renter.

914 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:44:40am

re: #906 yma o hyd
Well done. That sounds like a good old fashioned ass whuppin'.

915 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:45:13am

re: #908 Sharmuta

Since I'm currently reading a Dr. Sowell book, I thought I'd share this book list he wrote:

Mind-changing books

Morning Sharm. You are late to the troll feast :)

916 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:46:13am

NATO forces let captured pirates go


First, the good news — NATO forces freed 20 hostages from the grips of pirates in the Gulf of Aden. Dutch commandos chased the pirates back to their mother ship, seized the ship, and liberated the hostages. Good for them; job well done.

Until …


Dutch commandos freed 20 Yemeni hostages on Saturday and briefly detained seven pirates who had forced their captives to sail a “mother ship” attacking vessels in the Gulf of Aden, NATO officials said. …

The commandos briefly detained and questioned the seven gunmen, he told Reuters, but had no legal power to arrest them.

“NATO does not have a detainment policy. The warship must follow its national law,” he said.

“They can only arrest them if the pirates are from the Netherlands, the victims are from the Netherlands, or if they are in Netherlands waters.”


[Link: rpc.blogrolling.com...]

917 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:46:16am

re: #912 Wishing

I am still amazed that you are slogging through it Sharm!

I had a meeting last night and convinced two more people to read it. Did you see what Dr Sowell said about it?

A Conflict of Visions is my own favorite among my books.

918 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:46:21am

re: #913 razorbacker

Home ownership isn't for everyone. If it didn't make my wife so happy, I'd be a renter.

I HATED being a renter. I am now free to do anything I want to this house because it's mine. Not that there's anything I'd do to my house because it's exactly what I want, but you get the point.

919 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:46:48am

re: #908 Sharmuta

Since I'm currently reading a Dr. Sowell book, I thought I'd share this book list he wrote:

Mind-changing books

Interesting list - I'd add one which definitely changed my mind, and that was Aleksandr Solshenyzin's 'GULAG Archipelago'.

920 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:46:51am

re: #915 Erik The Red

No- I was in GAZE mode. Still might be since it's still logged in.

921 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:47:16am

re: #913 razorbacker

Home ownership isn't for everyone. If it didn't make my wife so happy, I'd be a renter.

I am in the same boat. An investment that gives you a return of 3-5% per year is not a good investment.

922 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:47:28am

re: #916 Dustyvet
NATO needs to get off its collective ass and change the ROE, ASAP!

923 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:47:43am

re: #840 jcm I don't even know what he said about me, but I'll take your word for it.

924 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:47:51am

re: #906 yma o hyd

YESSS! YESSS! YESSS!

Cardiff Blues won their first silverware as they totally outplayed Gloucester to lift the EDF Energy Cup.

We beat them English 50 : 12!

I absolutely love your passion for sports..

925 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:48:04am

re: #916 Dustyvet

Wait. What? Jigga WHA? First, I'm shocked that the Dutch have commandos. Second, they caught the pirates and then let them go?

926 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:48:05am

re: #916 Dustyvet

NATO forces let captured pirates go

First, the good news — NATO forces freed 20 hostages from the grips of pirates in the Gulf of Aden. Dutch commandos chased the pirates back to their mother ship, seized the ship, and liberated the hostages. Good for them; job well done.

Until …

Dutch commandos freed 20 Yemeni hostages on Saturday and briefly detained seven pirates who had forced their captives to sail a “mother ship” attacking vessels in the Gulf of Aden, NATO officials said. …

The commandos briefly detained and questioned the seven gunmen, he told Reuters, but had no legal power to arrest them.

“NATO does not have a detainment policy. The warship must follow its national law,” he said.

“They can only arrest them if the pirates are from the Netherlands, the victims are from the Netherlands, or if they are in Netherlands waters.”

[Link: rpc.blogrolling.com...]

Morning Dv.
Please send me a energy pack

927 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:48:13am

re: #919 yma o hyd

Interesting list - I'd add one which definitely changed my mind, and that was Aleksandr Solshenyzin's 'GULAG Archipelago'.

I read that shortly after it's English publication, it cemented my already firm anti-communist sentiments.

928 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:49:20am

re: #914 pingjockey

Well done. That sounds like a good old fashioned ass whuppin'.

Yep - and we beat them three times now, this season.
Next up - Leicester Tigers, here in Cardiff, for a place in the Final of the Heineken Cup - the European Rugby Club Championship.
We beat the French 'biggies', Toulouse, last weekend and are now in the semis.
Tigers will get their tails pulled, now that we have the first silverware!

929 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:49:21am

re: #918 ConservatismNow!

I HATED being a renter. I am now free to do anything I want to this house because it's mine. Not that there's anything I'd do to my house because it's exactly what I want, but you get the point.

That's why it makes her so happy.

But, on the bright side, continual reinventing of our house keeps her from looking elsewhere for something *cough, razorbacker* to change.

930 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:50:10am

re: #903 ConservatismNow!

But that $1900 in rent could be turned into $1900 in house payments, building equity and causing tax breaks. It's also a point of pride in knowing that you own it (or will own it in 30 years!)

Sometimes the market favors renting over buying. I am not sure which one we are in now. I am not earning any equity but I also don't pay maintenance or property taxes (which I hear the IL democrats are raising)

931 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:50:15am

re: #923 realwest

I don't even know what he said about me, but I'll take your word for it.

It was, shall we say juvenile, and hateful.
Lizards attacked it right back in your honor.

932 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:50:42am

re: #921 Erik The Red

I am in the same boat. An investment that gives you a return of 3-5% per year is not a good investment.

I posted a chart the other day backing you up on that.

933 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:50:48am

re: #916 Dustyvet

Dutch law mandates that they release the pirates. but can't they just throw them overboard and still comply with their laws?

934 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:51:00am

re: #917 Sharmuta

Yes I saw that in the article. BTW, I have thought long and hard about our discussion from the other night re the TPs, and I think what we take away from them is that many Republicans learned that the Democrats standing next to them at the TPs didn't have two heads, and the Dems learned the same about the Reps that were there. I think it will be shown to have been a win-win for USA lovers.

935 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:51:05am

re: #928 yma o hyd
The better half got a kick out of Mr. Halfpennys name. She helps with my pronunciation of Welsh place names.

936 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:51:14am

re: #923 realwest

I don't even know what he said about me, but I'll take your word for it.

It was over the top and solely aimed at getting a reaction. Wouldn't have been like walking up to you and throwing your beer in your face.

937 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:51:19am

re: #932 razorbacker

I posted a chart the other day backing you up on that.

Missed that. Can you repost for me.

938 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:51:24am

re: #924 HoosierHoops

I absolutely love your passion for sports..

Aww - its rugby, see: a sport one's gotta be passionate about, certainly here in Wales.
And Cardiff Blues being my local club - gotta shout and jump!

939 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:51:38am

re: #913 razorbacker

Home ownership isn't for everyone. If it didn't make my wife so happy, I'd be a renter.

or in the Detroit area, an investment that is worth considerably less every year.

940 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:52:09am

re: #926 Erik The Red

Just sent, let me know of you received it.

941 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:52:21am

re: #916 Dustyvet

They have no real choice. EU laws mean that if they capture the pirates then they can apply for EU asylum, and start swinging from that sweet welfare teat.

942 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:52:24am

re: #936 jcm
That right there is a waste of beer. Don't throw your beer at a troll.

943 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:52:43am

re: #925 ConservatismNow!

Wait. What? Jigga WHA? First, I'm shocked that the Dutch have commandos. Second, they caught the pirates and then let them go?

Yup, they let them go.

944 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:52:53am

re: #877 pingjockey You're joking, right? I mean it's had what - 10 or so comments deleted, called on Charles to sic the Jews on him and he still hasn't been banned yet?
Wow.

945 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:53:27am

re: #942 pingjockey

That right there is a waste of beer. Don't throw your beer at a troll.

No, the troll walked in and grabbed RW's beer and threw it in RW's face is what I meant!

946 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:53:45am

re: #938 yma o hyd

Aww - its rugby, see: a sport one's gotta be passionate about, certainly here in Wales.
And Cardiff Blues being my local club - gotta shout and jump!

Rugby is not for sissies. I am watching Super 14 now. The Sharks vs Crusaders. 10-7 Crusaders at half time. GO SHARKS

947 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:53:52am

re: #925 ConservatismNow!

Wait. What? Jigga WHA? First, I'm shocked that the Dutch have commandos. Second, they caught the pirates and then let them go?

Yep - same as the Royal Navy, last year.
If they keep them on board, they'll have to bring them back to the Netherlands or the UK, and then the pirates will get all the benefits of our 'uman roights' lawyers: good prison sentences, then citizenship, then welfare for life ...

Naw, let them rot in their hellholes!

948 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:54:02am

re: #940 Dustyvet

Just sent, let me know of you received it.

Got Thanks

949 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:54:04am

re: #938 yma o hyd

Hi YMA...Hi Madame I've missed you both...:)

950 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:54:25am

re: #944 realwest

You're joking, right? I mean it's had what - 10 or so comments deleted, called on Charles to sic the Jews on him and he still hasn't been banned yet?
Wow.

Charles is working on a surprise.....

951 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:54:25am

re: #944 realwest
Yep. Pretty juvenile, potty mouth, not up to usual frothing at the mouth troll invective.

952 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:54:26am

re: #936 jcm

It was over the top and solely aimed at getting a reaction. Wouldn't have been like walking up to you and throwing your beer in your face.

I'm still wiping the beer off my face...LOL

953 doppelganglander  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:54:31am

re: #894 kansas

Funny how in response to wanting to not pay 5K in taxes everyone wants you to commit to a 400K condo with all the headaches that go along with that. But that's just me. 1900 per month rent and you complain to someone else about maintenance or just leave if you want to? Man. That don't sound 1/2 bad.

I think we're just encouraging her to look at her options because it's probably more feasible than she thinks. Saving $5K a year in taxes over the 25 or 30 years she'll probably live there is not a bad deal. Not to mention the equity she'll build as she pays it off and the home (hopefully) goes up in value. Homeownership isn't for everyone, of course, but nearly two-thirds of Americans think it's a good idea.

954 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:54:39am

re: #916 Dustyvet

“They can only arrest them if the pirates are from the Netherlands, the victims are from the Netherlands, or if they are in Netherlands waters.”

And this is why all of the "international community coming together" crap never works. I can hardly blame the Dutch commandos for not taking what would have been criminals they couldn't try or POW's from a war that doesn't exist. It's a muddle, and that's why pirates in particular have always been "fair game" for any law-abiding nation. Nowadays, you bring Somalis back to the Netherlands for a trial, you'll probably end up in the dock on "Human Rights violations" charges yourself.

955 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:54:46am

Trouble in BNP paradise:

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

Remember....we, er....need these people on board to win against jihad n' stuff//

956 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:54:47am

re: #947 yma o hyd

Yep - same as the Royal Navy, last year.
If they keep them on board, they'll have to bring them back to the Netherlands or the UK, and then the pirates will get all the benefits of our 'uman roights' lawyers: good prison sentences, then citizenship, then welfare for life ...

Naw, let them rot in their hellholes!

*sigh* Whatever happened to "Pirates, ye be warned."

957 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:54:56am

re: #932 razorbacker

I posted a chart the other day backing you up on that.

I didn't think that I could, but I'll be, it is still here.

Existing home prices

958 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:54:59am

re: #945 jcm
Oh! Okay. Sheesh, sorry.

959 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:56:29am

re: #950 jcm
Hmmm...maybe stinky is tracking its gamey smell to see what hole it crawled out of?!

960 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:56:34am

re: #958 pingjockey

Oh! Okay. Sheesh, sorry.

LOL! I need to work on clarity!

961 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:56:59am

re: #927 jcm

I read that shortly after it's English publication, it cemented my already firm anti-communist sentiments.

It was such an incredible eye-opener, especially since here in Europe the Left always insisted that Stalin did some unfortunate things, but otherwise communism was fine ...

That trail of blood, from 1917 onwards, showed the opposite.
No excuses were possible, after 'GULAG ...'

962 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:57:00am

re: #957 razorbacker

I didn't think that I could, but I'll be, it is still here.

Existing home prices

Marked Thanks

963 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:57:19am

re: #960 jcm
Or I need to work on comprehension!

964 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:57:23am

re: #934 Wishing

I was thinking about that conversation too, especially last night at my meeting. I guess you would have to know my political mentor to know better why I advocate organization the way I do. This man has repeatedly gone into areas without any, and leaves them better and prepared for future chairs and leadership. The work I did for him during the election could not have come about without his hard work over the course of years at better organizing our Congressional district. And I guess when I say I see this aspect lacking and in need of improvement, it's because I've seen the difference behind the scenes when a competent, level-headed republican is at the wheel.

965 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:57:53am

re: #963 pingjockey

Or I need to work on comprehension!

To heck with it.... Drink!
;-P

966 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:57:59am

re: #883 yma o hyd
Thanks {yma} but the fact that Lizards rushed to tear him apart on my behalf, while gratifying, isn't nearly as gratifying as tearing him apart myself, ya know?
If Iron Fist shows up today, you can ask him if I can take care of myself (and then some) out here on LGF.
Course in the real world I'm 64 and have cancer so would have to use some sort of, um, hmmm IMPLEMENT - that's it implement to defend myself.
Fortunately mama's boys never really come out to play in the real world. They stare at photos of Rambo, then when their, uh, excitement level, goes down, they type again!

967 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:58:06am

re: #800 realwest

Well you're certainly right about Wal-Mart's "predatory" business practices in opening stores in new areas, but I have to disagree with you about the unions.
There WAS a time when Unions were necessary and GOOD for the American Economy. But now GM - GM!- is preparing to file for bankruptcy protection in spite of the BILLIONS the taxpayers gave 'em and a significant part of the reason is the UAW (to which I was a member in a galaxy far, far away!) - according to something I read in the WSJ (can't find the damn link, sorry) the average Production Line worker at GM got over $70 a hour wages and benefits. IF they only worked a 40 hour week, that means in terms of wages and benefits they made over $140,000 a year. No overtime included. Compare and contrast to the "Japanese" car makers who make their cars AND parts here in the US who make iirc, $48 an hour wages and benefits, that's a little under $100,000 a year - no overtime included.
So while I think A LOT of GM's problems came from crappy management - top to middle tiers, where are all the UAW workers for GM going to go to make that kind of wages and benefits? Or anything close to it?
As the late, great George Carlin once said "The primary job of a Union Executive today is to make sure he never becomes a member of the working class."

I'm no fan of unions, either. Just pointing out that shitty employment practices create fertile ground for them to fester in. It's trading one set of problems for another.

In fairness to GM, there is now a two-tiered workforce in place, with new hires for the last several years now making around half of what their older counterparts are paid. It's a lot of progress in a short amount of time. The real problem arises with pension benefits contracted under the old system, and that problem has been made much, much worse recently thanks to the plummeting value of all investments, even the bonds and traditionally stable securities favored by pension funds. It's bad enough that there are still an awful lot of workers on the line making the old scale; for every one of those, add four or five more collecting pensions at similar rates, and you've got yourself a real problem with no good solution except waiting it out.

I agree, however, that GM's management sucks, and has for a long time. Real industry leaders would have taken the company into bankruptcy nearly a year ago, and wouldn't even have blinked. It's the right thing to do for the long-term health and survival of the company. They could have completely tossed out all of their union, pension and supplier contracts and started from scratch. That course, however, would have made executive stock options and holdings worthless, at least over the short term, and none of the short-sighted weasels on the board were willing to accept that loss. So they concocted a story about how every single job that GM provide would instantly be wiped out, along with all the supplier's jobs, in an instant if they weren't handed gobs of taxpayer money, and Congress was stupid enough to buy it instead of telling them to get lost. This kept the board's options and benefits in place, thanks to money from you and me, and to date they STILL haven't come up with a reasonably detailed plan for salvaging the company, despite that sort of thing being their only job.

Slimy bastards. I'm at the point where I think the whole lot, unions and management, need to be flushed down the toilet. Let Ford and all the Japanese automakers doing business here divvy up the market share GM's departure will open up, and call it done.

[rant over]

968 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:58:47am

re: #964 Sharmuta

He also hates the paulians.

969 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:58:54am

re: #953 doppelganglander

Do more Americans rent or own?

970 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:59:14am

re: #965 jcm
This afternoon, after doing hand to hand combat with the yard!

971 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:59:41am

re: #884 Afrocity Try watching HGTV (I think that's House and Garden TV) for the show "Property Virgins" or "Designed to Sell" for some great tips on home buying.

972 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:59:47am

re: #904 swamprat

Ya got any honest debate?

What?

973 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 8:59:55am

Off to the yard! Y'all have fun.

974 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:00:24am

re: #935 pingjockey

The better half got a kick out of Mr. Halfpennys name. She helps with my pronunciation of Welsh place names.

Those place names are hard to pronounce, but so descriptive.

Leigh Halfpenny is a star - and only 20 years old.
I knew he was up for it when I watched him a year ago, at the U20 world Championships.
He was drafted into the International Squad this season already, his first as professional player.
We likes him a lot!
:-)

975 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:00:51am

re: #974 yma o hyd

Allo YMA....:)

976 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:01:10am

re: #916 Dustyvet

NATO forces let captured pirates go
First, the good news — NATO forces freed 20 hostages from the grips of pirates in the Gulf of Aden. Dutch commandos chased the pirates back to their mother ship, seized the ship, and liberated the hostages. Good for them; job well done.

Until …

Dutch commandos freed 20 Yemeni hostages on Saturday and briefly detained seven pirates who had forced their captives to sail a “mother ship” attacking vessels in the Gulf of Aden, NATO officials said. …

The commandos briefly detained and questioned the seven gunmen, he told Reuters, but had no legal power to arrest them.

“NATO does not have a detainment policy. The warship must follow its national law,” he said.

“They can only arrest them if the pirates are from the Netherlands, the victims are from the Netherlands, or if they are in Netherlands waters.”

[Link: rpc.blogrolling.com...]

Maritime law is a tangled rat's nest. That's why ALL parties affected by piracy have to sit down and come to a common agreement over how it will be handled, and then vigorously enforce that common understanding.

I don't see that happening any time soon.

977 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:01:18am

re: #934 Wishing

I wish you would post that at my blog for the libs to see. Yeah we don't have two heads or a devil's pointy tail.

978 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:01:23am

Islamist propaganda evolving before your eyes:

We need to construct a different dialogue, reframe language, political philosophy and concepts – new language as starting place? We need to think critically how the West can learn from the values and the notion of society that Hezbollah and Hamas have at the centre of their philosophy - how can we re-formulate Islamist thoughts and ideas in a way that will resonate with people in the West who see shortcomings in their own society?

We need to think not just about changing words used, but to think critically about the significance and meaning of words and concepts - need to develop appropriate metaphors for Islamism that will work in the West and then focus on coming up with new terminology and an alternative narrative and language.

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Come “Meet” Khalid Meshaal At The House of Lords

979 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:01:27am

re: #955 Jimmah

Heh.

980 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:01:49am

re: #971 realwest

LOL "property virgins"

981 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:01:50am

re: #970 pingjockey

This afternoon, after doing hand to hand combat with the yard!

Have fun in the yard......
*ducks* ;-P

983 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:02:17am

re: #964 Sharmuta

I was thinking about that conversation too, especially last night at my meeting. I guess you would have to know my political mentor to know better why I advocate organization the way I do. This man has repeatedly gone into areas without any, and leaves them better and prepared for future chairs and leadership. The work I did for him during the election could not have come about without his hard work over the course of years at better organizing our Congressional district. And I guess when I say I see this aspect lacking and in need of improvement, it's because I've seen the difference behind the scenes when a competent, level-headed republican is at the wheel.

I will agree that the Reps need some direction from those with the wisdom to know the direction to take, without a doubt, and I for one am thankful that you are doing the hard work behind the scenes. I think at this point, looking forward to the next TP or whatever it will be called, we need to take into consideration that it will not be a specifically Rep or Dem or libertarian movement, but an American movement.
Do we have leaders around who can direct this new phenomena?

984 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:02:49am

re: #966 realwest

{realwest}

985 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:02:52am

As usual..The Hoopsters Sat. morning movie reviews..
Pride (2007) 2 1/2 stars
Terrance Howard.. He fixes up an old pool in Philly and starts a swim team..
Meant to be an inspirational film and it did a pretty good job..But let's talk about Terrance...This man is an underrated actor. He never mails it in and I have never seen him not bring real acting chops to any role he plays.
It is my view that he should have gotten an Oscar for Hustle & Flow..The Song track won best song..How could he not win an oscar? Name one person on the planet that could have played the leading role in that movie and pulled it off? He is an under rated genius

986 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:02:57am

re: #953 doppelganglander

I think we're just encouraging her to look at her options because it's probably more feasible than she thinks. Saving $5K a year in taxes over the 25 or 30 years she'll probably live there is not a bad deal. Not to mention the equity she'll build as she pays it off and the home (hopefully) goes up in value. Homeownership isn't for everyone, of course, but nearly two-thirds of Americans think it's a good idea.

That certainly is an excellent point, and one she should consider. I have made mortgage payments forever. Made the mistake of using my last home for an ATM in the 90's, then bought a foreclosure in 2005. Am doing a refi right now to get the interest from 6.25 to 4.6. Sometimes I see the money I have poured into interest and Home Depot, etc. and how hard it is to move I think a place with no responsiblities and pool might be nice.

987 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:03:12am

re: #946 Erik The Red

Rugby is not for sissies. I am watching Super 14 now. The Sharks vs Crusaders. 10-7 Crusaders at half time. GO SHARKS

Yep - rugby isn't for sissies, but its such a wonderful game, tactical, full of pure power, and when wit and cleverness are added - aww.

Mind - beating a top English Club in a final at Twickers, 50 : 12, thats one for the books!

989 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:04:42am

re: #949 Dustyvet

Hi YMA...Hi Madame I've missed you both...:)

Hiya, {Dustyvet}!

Yeah, missed Lizardia meself, and you, natch!

Still - gotta be careful and not overdo it until that doctor gives his verdict on Monday ...

990 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:04:54am

re: #977 Afrocity

I wish you would post that at my blog for the libs to see. Yeah we don't have two heads or a devil's pointy tail.

I have been keeping an eye on your blog and love it! But I only have so much time to post.
LGF is just home to me!
And please buy yourself a home. You deserve it! And it sure beats flushing rent money down the terlet!

991 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:05:15am

re: #985 HoosierHoops

As usual..The Hoopsters Sat. morning movie reviews..
Pride (2007) 2 1/2 stars
Terrance Howard.. He fixes up an old pool in Philly and starts a swim team..
Meant to be an inspirational film and it did a pretty good job..But let's talk about Terrance...This man is an underrated actor. He never mails it in and I have never seen him not bring real acting chops to any role he plays.
It is my view that he should have gotten an Oscar for Hustle & Flow..The Song track won best song..How could he not win an oscar? Name one person on the planet that could have played the leading role in that movie and pulled it off? He is an under rated genius

Sounds like you need a blog.

992 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:05:56am

re: #910 Pietr
Oh hell, Pietr - thanks but I get hate mail worse than that (and I don't even have a blog!)!

993 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:06:17am

re: #990 Wishing

Me too Wishing but I visit friends too.
And I am checking out open houses this weekend.

994 swamprat  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:07:34am

re: #972 kansas

I meant to say "zee" not "kanasas".

995 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:07:46am

ok Lizards. Signing off for the day. See you later!

996 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:08:33am

re: #992 realwest

Oh hell, Pietr - thanks but I get hate mail worse than that (and I don't even have a blog!)!

You should realwest, even if only to talk about your experience battling cancer.
When I was first diagnosed with PD, the PD blogs helped me find people who were going through the same thing.

997 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:09:23am

Turning the tables on the Taliban

Here’s a feel-good story for a Saturday morning about our fighting men in Afghanistan — and it’s from the New York Times. C.J. Chivers tells the story of how one American unit turned the tables on the Taliban by ambushing one of their patrols before they could set up their own ambush of NATO forces, and wiped out the entire contingent:


Only the lead insurgents were disciplined as they walked along the ridge. They moved carefully, with weapons ready and at least five yards between each man, the soldiers who surprised them said.

Behind them, a knot of Taliban fighters walked in a denser group, some with rifles slung on their shoulders — “pretty much exactly the way we tell soldiers not to do it,” said Specialist Robert Soto, the radio operator for the American patrol.

If these insurgents came close enough, the soldiers knew, the patrol could kill them in a batch.

Fight by fight, the infantryman’s war in Afghanistan is often waged on the Taliban’s terms. Insurgents ambush convoys and patrols from high ridges or long ranges and slip away as the Americans, weighed down by equipment, return fire and call for air and artillery support. Last week a patrol from the First Infantry Division reversed the routine.

An American platoon surprised an armed Taliban column on a forested ridgeline at night, and killed at least 13 insurgents, and perhaps many more, with rifles, machine guns, Claymore mines, hand grenades and a knife.


[Link: hotair.com...]

998 swamprat  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:09:57am

re: #976 SixDegrees

Maritime law is a tangled rat's nest. That's why ALL parties affected by piracy have to sit down and come to a common agreement over how it will be handled, and then vigorously enforce that common understanding.

I don't see that happening any time soon.


No parlay; Shoot accuratelay.

999 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:10:17am

re: #991 Afrocity

Sounds like you need a blog.

No one would willing go somewhere to read what I post...
That's why I come here...I really enjoy my sat.morning movie review..I got the idea from Veggie

1000 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:10:21am

re: #993 Afrocity

Me too Wishing but I visit friends too.
And I am checking out open houses this weekend.

Here's my (unasked for) advice to add to the rest:

Make a wish list of all the features you want and prioritize them. Going to open houses is a great idea because it will suggest features that may not have occurred to you.

When we were looking for a house, I found one that brought tears to my eyes because it was truly my dream home and within our price range--but it didn't have a yard or even off-street parking. Walking away from that otherwise PERFECT house was so hard, but it wouldn't have been right for our kids.

1001 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:10:35am

It's all Obama, all the time on every station

If it's Thursday, it must be Obama. Or Friday. Or Saturday. Or just about any day. Barack Obama has gone from being historic to being ubiquitous. He doesn't just control the news cycle, he is the news cycle.

Need an auto exec fired? A pirate killed? A dog patted? A Cuba policy addressed? An Easter egg rolled? An economy stimulated? Hey, he also does seders!

This is not automatic for a president in his first 100 days. George W. Bush was so quiet he was virtually speechless in his first 100 days in office, even though he had to deal with an international crisis (the Chinese government took 24 Americans hostage) and a domestic crisis (race riots in Cincinnati).

NOTUS.
Narcissist of The United States.

1002 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:10:55am

re: #945 jcm
"No, the troll walked in and grabbed RW's beer and threw it in RW's face is what I meant!"
Nope, jcm if someone had done that, they wouldn't only be banned but buried as well.

1003 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:12:08am

re: #1002 realwest

"No, the troll walked in and grabbed RW's beer and threw it in RW's face is what I meant!"
Nope, jcm if someone had done that, they wouldn't only be banned but buried as well.

I keep a shovel in my truck.....

1004 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:12:29am

You know, Wal-Mart is a huge company, and they don't need me to defend them.

But really, when you look at retail wages in general, and bring in time with the employer, Wal-Mart's wages are in line with other retailers.

They sell a lot of foreign-made goods. They buy where ever the cheapest supplier resides. As do all big-box retailers that I know of. Wander through Lowes or Home Depot and look at the labels to see the country of origin. I noticed the other day that they are importing some funiture from Vietnam, of all places. Back in the 70's Wal-Mart imported form Taiwan, before China became the big guy. The clothes come from Mexico, Indonesian, China, even some from Africa.

Sam Walton is dead. His old 'buy American' philosophy died with him.

1005 nyc redneck  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:13:33am

re: #908 Sharmuta

Since I'm currently reading a Dr. Sowell book, I thought I'd share this book list he wrote:

Mind-changing books

did you read his book, "black rednecks and white liberals" ?
i loved it.

1006 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:14:02am

Muslims acting like Republicans......
Michigan Muslims request a probe of FBI


A coalition of Muslim organizations asked U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday to investigate complaints that the FBI is approaching local Muslims, asking them to inform on Islamic congregations in Metro Detroit.

Muslim leaders in Michigan and across the country say members of mosques are frequently asked to provide information about activities in their communities.

"We seek to ensure that our country is secure from all threats regardless of the source, but we take exception to community members being asked to spy on law-abiding Americans exercising the constitutional rights of freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of assembly," said Victor Ghalib Begg, chairman of the Council of Islamic Organizations of Michigan, a group that represents mosques and other Michigan Muslim organizations.

1007 kansas  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:14:08am

Later Lizards.

1008 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:14:09am

re: #1005 nyc redneck

did you read his book, "black rednecks and white liberals" ?
i loved it.

No, but another Lizard mentioned it the other day, so I mean to check it out soon.

1009 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:14:29am

re: #1000 goddessoftheclassroom

Aw goddess. I love huge windows that is a deal breaker for me.

1010 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:14:54am

re: #1007 kansas

Bye Kansas thanks for advice.

1011 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:15:28am

re: #1008 Sharmuta

No, but another Lizard mentioned it the other day, so I mean to check it out soon.

That book sounds funny.

1012 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:15:52am

re: #1004 razorbacker

Mr. w has been noticing a significant decrease in goods from China there.

1013 Truck Monkey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:16:07am

re: #1004 razorbacker

You know, Wal-Mart is a huge company, and they don't need me to defend them.

But really, when you look at retail wages in general, and bring in time with the employer, Wal-Mart's wages are in line with other retailers.

They sell a lot of foreign-made goods. They buy where ever the cheapest supplier resides. As do all big-box retailers that I know of. Wander through Lowes or Home Depot and look at the labels to see the country of origin. I noticed the other day that they are importing some funiture from Vietnam, of all places. Back in the 70's Wal-Mart imported form Taiwan, before China became the big guy. The clothes come from Mexico, Indonesian, China, even some from Africa.

Sam Walton is dead. His old 'buy American' philosophy died with him.

Americans don't manufacture much anymore. Sam Waltons philosophy on pricing has a lot to do with that IMHO. Walmart beats their suppliers down like no other company that I have ever dealt with and the suppliers, afraid to lose a monster like Walmart, capitulate.

1014 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:16:19am

re: #999 HoosierHoops

Hi Hoosier. Not sure where you stand on the NBA. Do you have a fav team?

"My" Celtics are getting ready to start their playoff game against Chicago. With KG out, even getting through the first round might be a challenge for the defending champs. The East has a lot of solid teams this year and barring a "Willis Reed moment" in the later rounds, I think it's just a matter of time before the Green goes home.

1015 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:16:59am

re: #953 doppelganglander
Well the tax advantages of homeownership ARE significant, however the Leftists in Congress and "leaks" from the WH indicate that they are thinking of cutting out those tax benefits - or at least reducing them over time to zero.
But I LOVED the tax advantages of owning a home in NYC - got to deduct from my Fed Income: Mortgage Interest, New York State Income Taxes, New York City Income Taxes and NYC real estate Taxes. Used to get a nice fat refund every year. Now the most recent former Mrs. realwest gets those tax breaks!
Oh well, economic health isn't as good as mental health! LOL!

1016 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:18:02am

re: #1009 Afrocity

Aw goddess. I love huge windows that is a deal breaker for me.

will be hard to find a house at a good price in Chicago? Have you Considered a condo by the lake..It's nice there..And let's face it..you are a city girl living in the heart of the city.

1017 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:18:14am

re: #1015 realwest

Now the most recent former Mrs. realwest gets those tax breaks!
Oh well, economic health isn't as good as mental health! LOL!

Amen to that

1018 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:18:18am

I refuse to participate in the villification of Wal Mart by the religious right... it's pathetic.

I have a Wal Mart in my home town.
They're a good employer, and they're an even better neighbor.

1019 teleskiguy  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:18:21am

AAAAAWWWWWW!

1020 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:18:27am

re: #1009 Afrocity

Aw goddess. I love huge windows that is a deal breaker for me.

Start making a list of things in house.

The must have.
(The deal breaker stuff)

The really want to have.
(You can trade one of these for another one, but if too many are not there, deal breaker)

The would like to have.
(The stuff that you'd like but don't need)

The would be nice have.
(The wish list stuff)

Take your time, we spent more than year looking to get all our must have list and all but one item on the really want list, and a lot of the other things too.

1021 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:19:27am

CAIR and GOP whine in unison......
CAIR: Officials Asked to Repudiate NY Rep.'s Anti-Muslim Remarks

The New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-NY) today called on American Muslims and all people of conscience to urge their elected representatives to repudiate Rep. Peter King's (R-NY) bigoted response to a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) report released earlier this week about the rising threat of right-wing extremism.

In an interview on MSNBC, Rep. King stated in part: "[Napolitano] has never put out a report talking about look out for mosques. Look out for Islamic terrorists in our country. Look out for the fact that very few Muslims come forward to cooperate with the police. If they sent out a report saying that, there would be hell to pay."

"We urge elected representatives to distance themselves from King's bigoted remarks," said CAIR-NY Community Affairs Director Faiza N. Ali. "Sweeping generalizations about Muslims and mosques have no place in serious national security discourse."


A-booo-hooo-hooo. Hurt feelings over "sweeping generalizations"? Give me a break. It's very sad to see the GOP and CAIR using the same playbook.

1022 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:19:30am

re: #966 realwest

Thanks {yma} but the fact that Lizards rushed to tear him apart on my behalf, while gratifying, isn't nearly as gratifying as tearing him apart myself, ya know?
If Iron Fist shows up today, you can ask him if I can take care of myself (and then some) out here on LGF.
Course in the real world I'm 64 and have cancer so would have to use some sort of, um, hmmm IMPLEMENT - that's it implement to defend myself.
Fortunately mama's boys never really come out to play in the real world. They stare at photos of Rambo, then when their, uh, excitement level, goes down, they type again!

I made a sorta Rambo reply to the TROLL-and I'm 62 this year, Amigo. What do you think of my Little Green Football-it seems only 5 Peeps have noticed, but dozens carped at me to change it (and NO, I'm not starting a Fish Pun subthread).

1023 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:20:38am

we go to wal mart just for the people watching experience.

A trip to Wal Mart allows you to see everything that is right, and wrong with america all under one roof.

and they are the only place around that carries the sugar free popsicles we like

1024 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:20:58am

re: #967 SixDegrees
Ha!

So they concocted a story about how every single job that GM provide would instantly be wiped out, along with all the supplier's jobs, in an instant if they weren't handed gobs of taxpayer money, and Congress was stupid enough to buy it instead of telling them to get lost.


Congress wasn't stupid, SixDegrees, it was merely repaying it's campaign debts to the UAW!
And how about those two tiered salary structures? If that isn't a PERFECT example of Lefty thinking: "I got mine, screw you."

1025 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:21:16am

re: #1022 Pietr

I made a sorta Rambo reply to the TROLL-and I'm 62 this year, Amigo. What do you think of my Little Green Football-it seems only 5 Peeps have noticed, but dozens carped at me to change it (and NO, I'm not starting a Fish Pun subthread).

What's that kitty packin' ? Birdshot ?
I like it.

1026 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:21:34am

re: #1022 Pietr

Are you kidding? My cats would carry nuclear weapons if they had opposable thumbs.

1027 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:21:41am

re: #1021 Killgore Trout

Remember when the Republicans were the party of national security? LGF used to go dead on nights when the anti-terrorist show 24 was on. They used to support counter-terror operations and investigations. Way to go guys.

1028 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:22:03am

re: #1022 Pietr

I made a sorta Rambo reply to the TROLL-and I'm 62 this year, Amigo. What do you think of my Little Green Football-it seems only 5 Peeps have noticed, but dozens carped at me to change it (and NO, I'm not starting a Fish Pun subthread).

When You Fish Upon A Star!...:)

1029 swamprat  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:22:32am

re: #758 Afrocity

Don't feed the troll.

He got a hat-tip from Charles

1030 That's Mr. President to you  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:22:37am

Buenos Dias Amigos -

Thought I'd stop in and say "Ola".

They spell it "Hola" around here, but I am getting folks to change it to "Ola"

Can't get a decent waffle around here, though. So I asked for huevos rancheros and they tell me "This isn't Mexico". Then I said "Ola" to some Brazilians which pissed them off because, it turns out, they don't speak Spanish.

So I am a bit confused this morning, but one thing did go really well - my meet up with my compadre Hugo Chavez. You gotta admire that guy. We had a chance to talk about changing constitutions in the interest of Social Justice - I really like his ideas.

1031 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:23:12am

Sharmuta, I hope you saw my reply above. We really do need to be thinking about some *planning* around the next TP, whether it is July 4th or Memorial Day, or whenever.

1032 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:23:26am

I'm packing it in for today, Lizards.

After all - I wanna be able to get back tomorrow, so I'm taking it s-l-o-w-l-y !

1033 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:23:39am

re: #980 Afrocity
Hey! That's the name of the show - deals with folks buying a home for the first time - lots of nicely taught lessons on what to look out for when buying a home!

1034 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:24:00am

re: #1014 Lincolntf

Hi Hoosier. Not sure where you stand on the NBA. Do you have a fav team?

"My" Celtics are getting ready to start their playoff game against Chicago. With KG out, even getting through the first round might be a challenge for the defending champs. The East has a lot of solid teams this year and barring a "Willis Reed moment" in the later rounds, I think it's just a matter of time before the Green goes home.

I am a huge Celtics fan.. I love all things Boston..I was cheering like crazy when the Sox won the WS. I even bought Bill Simmons book about that year.
I feel it is the Cav's year..And I'm the only..and I mean only person in America picking the Lakers to get upset...
/you see how well I picked the NCAA didn't you? There was one lizard that picked the opposite of ever one of my picks and posted it here..Turns out..He won the whole thing...
mmmmm..That means the Lakers are world Champions..Crap!

1035 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:24:17am

re: #1032 yma o hyd

I'm packing it in for today, Lizards.

After all - I wanna be able to get back tomorrow, so I'm taking it s-l-o-w-l-y !

Take Care, and get well...:)


(YMA)

1036 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:24:31am

re: #1016 HoosierHoops

will be hard to find a house at a good price in Chicago? Have you Considered a condo by the lake..It's nice there..And let's face it..you are a city girl living in the heart of the city.

Thats where I live now. See Soldier Field from my window.

1037 Truck Monkey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:24:39am

re: #1030 That's Mr. President to you

Buenos Dias Amigos -

Thought I'd stop in and say "Ola".

They spell it "Hola" around here, but I am getting folks to change it to "Ola"

Can't get a decent waffle around here, though. So I asked for huevos rancheros and they tell me "This isn't Mexico". Then I said "Ola" to some Brazilians which pissed them off because, it turns out, they don't speak Spanish.

So I am a bit confused this morning, but one thing did go really well - my meet up with my compadre Hugo Chavez. You gotta admire that guy. We had a chance to talk about changing constitutions in the interest of Social Justice - I really like his ideas.

My question is.... Did he give you an Obami-bump (fist bump)? Have you and Hugo started a Bromance?

1038 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:25:14am

re: #1036 Afrocity

Thats where I live now. See Soldier Field from my window.


I'll wave to you when I'm at the U2 concert in October

1039 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:25:14am

re: #984 Afrocity
{Afrocity}!
Hey I like this hugging game with good looking women!

1040 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:25:27am

re: #1013 Truck Monkey

Americans don't manufacture much anymore. Sam Waltons philosophy on pricing has a lot to do with that IMHO. Walmart beats their suppliers down like no other company that I have ever dealt with and the suppliers, afraid to lose a monster like Walmart, capitulate.

If you're going to be a Wal-Mart supplier, you'd better bring your A game. Their buyers will beat you up for price every negotiation. That is their job.

Sam Walton's pricing philosophy was if an American supplier could come within five percent of the next lowest foreign supplier, the American got the business. But Sam is dead.

1041 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:25:56am

re: #1029 swamprat

He got a hat-tip from Charles

What's a hat tip?

1042 Wishing  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:26:12am

Out for the day...
Have fun, Lizards!

1043 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:26:38am

re: #1039 realwest

{Afrocity}!
Hey I like this hugging game with good looking women!

(Moves realwest's hand from my butt)

1044 Truck Monkey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:27:18am

re: #1040 razorbacker

I didn't say it was a bad thing. Walmart can make or break companies. I have seen it happen. If it wasn't Walmart it would be someone else. They have a ruthless business model that is very successful.

1045 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:27:30am

re: #1028 Dustyvet

When You Fish Upon A Star!...:)

I think my Kitteh is 'fishin' from afar', since he is scoped...........:>))

1046 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:27:36am

re: #1043 Afrocity

(Moves realwest's hand from my butt)

Now its gonna be a butt thread. ;)

1047 Truck Monkey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:28:06am

re: #1046 DEZes

Now its gonna be a butt thread. ;)

SWEET!

1048 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:28:13am

re: #1036 Afrocity

Thats where I live now. See Soldier Field from my window.

I'm kind of jealous young lady.. I can see lots of endless cornfields over the fence.. But really we are from Napa Valley..We could have never afforded a house there..It costs 400k to get a run down crack house in the Valley..So it's kind of cool here..( and these people are basketball freaks )

1049 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:28:33am

re: #1038 Shug

I am boycotting U2...used to like them but Bono got too political.

1050 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:29:25am

re: #1043 Afrocity

(Moves realwest's hand from my butt)

That wasn't his hand.
/

1051 callahan23  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:29:42am

re: #1041 Afrocity

What's a hat tip?

From UrbanDictionary:

hat tip
Acknowledgment to a contributor toward an effort. Often used on blogs to let people know where the idea for the blog post originated.
1052 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:29:50am

re: #1048 HoosierHoops

I'm kind of jealous young lady.. I can see lots of endless cornfields over the fence.. But really we are from Napa Valley..We could have never afforded a house there..It costs 400k to get a run down crack house in the Valley..So it's kind of cool here..( and these people are basketball freaks )

Some of us grew up in Indiana. And we like corn fields. Give me corns fields, the season of harvest, over just about anything else.

Yes, I know. I'm weird.

1053 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:30:04am

re: #1041 Afrocity

What's a hat tip?

Acknowledging that you were turned on to a topic posted by said person.

1054 abolitionist  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:30:07am

re: #1041 Afrocity

What's a hat tip?

Basically it's an acknowledgment. Hat tip.

1055 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:30:19am

re: #1045 Pietr

I think my Kitteh is 'fishin' from afar', since he is scoped...........:>))

Lumpfish Is a Many Splendored Thing


Where Have All The Flounders Gone?

1056 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:30:35am

re: #1048 HoosierHoops

I'm kind of jealous young lady.. I can see lots of endless cornfields over the fence.. But really we are from Napa Valley..We could have never afforded a house there..It costs 400k to get a run down crack house in the Valley..So it's kind of cool here..( and these people are basketball freaks )

I told you we should have a lizard party at my place.

1057 callahan23  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:31:03am

re: #1051 callahan23
Sorry forgot to link UrbanDictionary

1058 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:31:19am

re: #1051 callahan23

So why would Zee turn on him?

1059 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:31:38am

re: #1004 razorbacker

They buy where ever the cheapest supplier resides. As do all big-box retailers that I know of. Wander through Lowes or Home Depot and look at the labels to see the country of origin. I noticed the other day that they are importing some funiture from Vietnam, of all places.


Yeppers, I bought a black shirt made in Vietnam; I figured with all that experience they had making black pajamas, it'd be well made.
Fell apart after just two washings!

1060 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:32:04am

re: #1049 Afrocity

I am boycotting U2...used to like them but Bono got too political.


I don't blame you. Bono is an annoying tool, but I ignore that since I like their live shows so much

1061 swamprat  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:32:37am

re: #1041 Afrocity

Credit for providing a story.

1062 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:32:43am

re: #1050 VegasRick

That wasn't his hand.
/

I'm glad that Mandy isn't here right now.

1063 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:32:54am

re: #1059 realwest

Yeppers, I bought a black shirt made in Vietnam; I figured with all that experience they had making black pajamas, it'd be well made.
Fell apart after just two washings!

What is the old saying? You get what you pay for it.

1064 callahan23  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:34:12am

re: #1058 Afrocity

So why would Zee turn on him?


Don't know really, InstantMeltdownDesire?

1065 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:34:41am

Levi jeans used to be American made. I don't think they make any jeans anymore; they just import jeans.

1066 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:34:43am

re: #1063 Erik The Red

What is the old saying? You get what you pay for .

That's what Elliot Spitzer said

1067 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:35:08am

re: #1046 DEZes

Now its gonna be a butt thread. ;)

And, your objection is.......?

1068 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:35:11am

re: #1049 Afrocity

I am boycotting U2...used to like them but Bono got too political.

How could you afro? I don't care how you view bono's politics..
Yes..He is an aging singer in a rock and roll band but he has worked tirelessly to save millions of lives in Africa...How many of Africa's children has that man saved?
He could be hanging in Paris Hilton's Mansion or boiking Brittany Spears..He is about saving lives and helping our world..You go Bono!
5 stars from the hoopster for a rock and roller

1069 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:35:32am

re: #1018 Irish Rose
Hi Rose! Hope you're doing well today. Uh, I didn't know that there was villification of Wal Mart by the "religious right". For what?

1070 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:35:41am

re: #1018 Irish Rose

The Religious Right hates them, too? Sheesh. Up in MA it was all the moonbats who screamed and hollered when they came to neighboring towns. Anything as big as WalMart will attract people who want to cast themselves as fighting against some immoral Goliath. Makes 'em feel less useless.

1071 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:36:44am

re: #1052 vxbush

Some of us grew up in Indiana. And we like corn fields. Give me corns fields, the season of harvest, over just about anything else.

Yes, I know. I'm weird.

Someday I may buy a pickup truck with a gun rack..LOL
kind regards Hoosier!

1072 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:36:45am

re: #1046 DEZes

Now its gonna be a butt thread. ;)

Butt, butt, butt............ aww, let's just put this behind us.

1073 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:36:45am

re: #1058 Afrocity

Angry creationist/extremist.

1074 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:37:48am

re: #1055 Dustyvet

Lumpfish Is a Many Splendored Thing


Where Have All The Flounders Gone?

BOC-Sole Survivor..........

1075 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:37:51am

re: #1072 jcm

Butt, butt, butt............ aww, let's just put this behind us.


Rear's lookin' at you,kid.

1076 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:38:03am

re: #1071 HoosierHoops

Someday I may buy a pickup truck with a gun rack..LOL
kind regards Hoosier!

I skipped the gun rack.....

1077 BlueCanuck  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:38:05am

re: #1068 HoosierHoops

Talked to an Irishman once. The real deal, accent you could carve with a knife. Despised Bono and U2. Apparently they have been political for quite awhile, and this guy didn't like what Bono stood for.

1078 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:38:06am

re: #1022 Pietr COOL avatar!
But you really shouldn't have responded to that jerk, Rambo style or not (though kudos on the Rambo style as I'm SURE that will get him, ah, excited!)!

1079 jaunte  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:38:07am

re: #1069 realwest

Hi Rose! Hope you're doing well today. Uh, I didn't know that there was villification of Wal Mart by the "religious right". For what?

Hi realwest. Here's a link on that question:

Wal-Mart has drawn criticism from pro-family advocates in recent months for its more highly publicized partnership with the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, in which Wal-Mart will pay the chamber $25,000 a year for sponsorship of events and initiatives and has agreed to conduct workshops for homosexual business owners on how to break into the Wal-Mart supplier ranks.


[Link: www.bpnews.net...]

1080 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:38:22am

re: #1068 HoosierHoops

How could you afro? I don't care how you view bono's politics..
Yes..He is an aging singer in a rock and roll band but he has worked tirelessly to save millions of lives in Africa...How many of Africa's children has that man saved?
He could be hanging in Paris Hilton's Mansion or boiking Brittany Spears..He is about saving lives and helping our world..You go Bono!
5 stars from the hoopster for a rock and roller

Like Bill O'Reilly says about Boycotting Sean Penn..."It's my $10 bucks"

Or in Bono's case it is my $1000 bucks

Too liberal for me. I dumped THE BOSS for the same reason.

1081 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:38:36am

re: #1056 Afrocity

I told you we should have a lizard party at my place.


We should this Summer..There are a ton of lizards around Chicago..
Where should we eat dinner?

1082 vxbush  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:38:47am

re: #1071 HoosierHoops

Someday I may buy a pickup truck with a gun rack..LOL
kind regards Hoosier!

Hey, gun racks are optional. As are trucks. But you have to have corn fields and you must at all costs have a basketball hoop at your house!

1083 Shug  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:39:17am

re: #1081 HoosierHoops

We should this Summer..There are a ton of lizards around Chicago..
Where should we eat dinner?

Lizard Day at Wrigley field

1084 DEZes  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:39:20am

re: #1067 Pietr

And, your objection is.......?

Did I object?
Can we move on now.

1085 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:39:22am

re: #1077 BlueCanuck

Talked to an Irishman once. The real deal, accent you could carve with a knife. Despised Bono and U2. Apparently they have been political for quite awhile, and this guy didn't like what Bono stood for.

HEY BLUE. How are you. Working getting in the way of the LNDT I see. Miss you there.

1086 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:40:21am

re: #1032 yma o hyd
Bye {yma} - take care of yourself!

1087 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:41:12am

re: #1077 BlueCanuck

Talked to an Irishman once. The real deal, accent you could carve with a knife. Despised Bono and U2. Apparently they have been political for quite awhile, and this guy didn't like what Bono stood for.

Bono is a Protestant. The person you spoke to must have been Catholic.

1088 jcm  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:41:18am

Obama Pledges to Cut Dozens of 'Wasteful' Programs

President Barack Obama promised Saturday to eliminate dozens of government programs that have been shown to be "wasteful or ineffective" and said he will call on his cabinet to hunt their budgets for more.

"There will be no sacred cows, and no pet projects. All across America, families are making hard choices, and it's time their government did the same," Mr. Obama said in his weekly radio and video address

F-22
F-35
Missile Defense
Espionage
Real Energy Independence

1089 lazardo  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:41:52am

Accursed Zionist mind beams keep me coming back.

It's 12:30 AM on Sunday, there is a beer to the left side of my laptop, and I am analogizing the lifting of the Cuban Embargo to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

How y'all doin'?

1090 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:41:58am

re: #1024 realwest

Ha!


Congress wasn't stupid, SixDegrees, it was merely repaying it's campaign debts to the UAW!
And how about those two tiered salary structures? If that isn't a PERFECT example of Lefty thinking: "I got mine, screw you."

The wage differences between two workers doing the same job have caused a lot of friction on the floor. It has reduced GM's competitiveness for that reason. Probably not the outcome they were hoping for, but we're dealing with dimwits here.

Stringing the company along like this for months hasn't done the unions workers any good, either, except for those few months under an unchanging contract. In the end, it looks like GM will enter bankruptcy anyway, and because of the delay it will find itself weaker than it was originally and will therefore have to simply shed workers instead of merely forcing them to take a lower wage while remaining employed. So we're dealing with dimwits here, too.

1091 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:42:01am

re: #1084 DEZes

Did I object?
Can we move on now.

Sustained...:)

1092 jaunte  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:42:13am

re: #1088 jcm

Who needs air dominance when the world "likes" us?
/

1093 Aye Pod  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:42:24am

Another Baptazia clip -

1094 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:42:32am

re: #1086 realwest

Hey real, just got back from running errands and I see some wack job went after you up thread.

I'd consider the source.

1095 Truck Monkey  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:42:34am

re: #1088 jcm

Obama Pledges to Cut Dozens of 'Wasteful' Programs

F-22
F-35
Missile Defense
Espionage
Real Energy Independence

Welcome to the Obamanation.

1096 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:42:42am

re: #1083 Shug

Lizard Day at Wrigley field

Perfect Idea! A ball game in Chicago this summer!

1097 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:42:48am

re: #1089 lazardo

Accursed Zionist mind beams keep me coming back.

It's 12:30 AM on Sunday, there is a beer to the left side of my laptop, and I am analogizing the lifting of the Cuban Embargo to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

How y'all doin'?

Your back to the dark side I see.///// Welcome back

1098 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:42:53am

re: #1043 Afrocity
Hey, no need to do that! I was just being, ah, affectionate! Yeah, that's it, affectionate - nothing sexual intended!
(can I put it back now?!).

1099 Afrocity  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:42:55am

re: #1081 HoosierHoops

We should this Summer..There are a ton of lizards around Chicago..
Where should we eat dinner?

Do it the city way. We cater it.

Or go to Fogo De Chao

1100 countrygurl  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:43:13am

re: #908 Sharmuta Saving Darwin came today. Thanks for the recommendation. I'm going on vacation to Merlefest next week, I'll take it with me and read a bit. I like Dr. Sowell a lot too -- i read him through Town Hall website.

Obam is in S.America right now - I wonder if he would take Dr. Sowell's advice:

If you are interested specifically in why Latin American economies have lagged behind for so long, try reading Underdevelopment is a State of Mind by Lawrence Harrison.

1101 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:43:16am

re: #1088 jcm

All across America, families are making hard choices, and it's time their government did the same," Mr. Obama said in his weekly radio and video address

BWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA.

breathe.

BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

1102 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:43:36am

BBL--I've got to do SOMETHING productive today!

1103 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:44:07am

Just a Bono spoof video---pretty goofy. You'll miss some punchlines if you don't know anything about Bob Geldof, though.

1104 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:44:09am

re: #1098 realwest

Hey, no need to do that! I was just being, ah, affectionate! Yeah, that's it, affectionate - nothing sexual intended!
(can I put it back now?!).

Watch it...that man's an 11 Bravo...:)

1105 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:44:31am

A few years back, I was running reset crews in Lowes. We pulled hundreds of thousands of dollars worth, probably millions of dollars worth of American-made window shades and blinds from the shelves and put them into the crushers. Replaced with all Chinese-made goods.

The still were Rubbermaid branded, just now come from China.

1106 Digital Display  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:44:41am

re: #1082 vxbush

Hey, gun racks are optional. As are trucks. But you have to have corn fields and you must at all costs have a basketball hoop at your house!

Yes! We brought our Basketball hoop and 23 basketballs and our kids with us to Indiana.

1107 BlueCanuck  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:44:56am

re: #1085 Erik The Red

Afternoon Erik. Yeah, trying to get my body fully adjusted to this afternoon thing and proper exercise at the same time. I have also been refraining from commenting this past week. Just didn't really want to jump into the tea party brouhaha

1109 lazardo  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:46:31am

re: #1097 Erik The Red

I must resist! RESIIIIIIIIIIIST!

/hurrrrrrrrrrr

1110 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:47:10am

re: #1107 BlueCanuck

Afternoon Erik. Yeah, trying to get my body fully adjusted to this afternoon thing and proper exercise at the same time. I have also been refraining from commenting this past week. Just didn't really want to jump into the tea party brouhaha

I hear you. I have never really disagreed with Charles before. I did on the TEA party part. Chose to stay out of the debate, for the most part.

1111 BlueCanuck  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:47:19am

re: #1109 lazardo

Too late, you have posted. Good to see you again lazardo. How's things going in the south pacific?

1112 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:47:21am

Here we go with the lectures:
Obama Gets History Lesson From Latin American Leaders

April 18 (Bloomberg) -- Latin American leaders railed against the U.S. during President Barack Obama’s first trip to the region, turning what was intended to mark a new direction in relations into a history lesson that chastised “Yankee troop” interventions and U.S.-dictated economic policies.

Obama arrived at the Fifth Summit of the Americas in Trinidad and Tobago yesterday promising to “listen and learn” from regional leaders. He got an earful.

In the weekend’s first speeches, Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega and Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner voiced grievances on issues

ranging from the U.S. drug war to American support for counterinsurgency movements of the 1980s. Both urged Obama to end the 47-year-old trade embargo against Cuba, the only country in the Americas excluded from the 34-nation summit.

“For many years, there have been traumatic relations,” Fernandez said. “I want you to know, Obama, that this is in no way a reproach against you. It’s simply an exercise to look back at what happened.”

The Obama Apology Tour is in midstride.

1113 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:47:23am

re: #1106 HoosierHoops

I just caught up with you on here. I had no idea you were a C's fan. Good man.
I once sat next to Larry Legend at a Bay State Bombardiers game for a full quarter. My claim to fame.
Oh, and Ronnie Perry played with my father.

1114 irongrampa  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:47:45am

Good morning, good people. Nice mild morning here, conducive to doing NO work--simply enjoying early Spring.

Noticed after reading this thread, it only took me just about 3 years to reach 1k comments. Not apropo of anything, in real life I've been accused of being pretty damn mouthy. Maybe this place teaches discretion in a few?

1115 swamprat  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:47:45am

re: #1058 Afrocity

Off meds
On "meds"
Liberal relative using account
Grudge about other topics
Grudge with particular poster(s)
Shared account
drunk
tired
sudden asshole syndrome

1116 lazardo  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:48:51am

re: #1111 BlueCanuck

Same ol'.

Oh, and according to the Beeb, our boys in blue have rescued one of the hostages held by the Abu Sayyaf.

1117 callahan23  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:49:17am

Gotta prepare dinner for meself, bbl
{my Lizard friends}

1118 abolitionist  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:50:32am

re: #1059 realwest

Yeppers, I bought a black shirt made in Vietnam; I figured with all that experience they had making black pajamas, it'd be well made.
Fell apart after just two washings!

Several months ago I replaced the bed and other b-room furniture for one of my daughters. Except for the matress etc, it was all made in Vietnam. Bed was a 4-poster hardwood frame, price was modest, and the quality was first-rate.

Economically, I hope it did more for the cause of capitalism than for communism.

1119 countrygurl  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:53:20am

re: #1018 Irish Rose

I refuse to participate in the villification of Wal Mart by the religious right... it's pathetic.

The Religious Right hates Wal-Mart? You're kidding, aren't you? Where I'm from the Right loves Wally World . Actually, where I'm from (my handle is countrygurl for a reason) EVERYONE loves Wal-Mart because before WM we had to drive 20 miles to buy milk. And, now we also have Lowe's next door, and restaurants, and , Catos, Radio Shack, Advance Auto, etc. where before there was NOTHING.

1120 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:53:35am

re: #1079 jaunte
Huh. Thanks juante! I didn't know that big, bad ole Walmart was so sophisticated! I applaud their decision.
But I can't help but wonder what

AFA also reported that a quick search of Wal-Mart’s website turned up 1,148 gay items for sale, 468 lesbian items, 40 transgender items, 38 bisexual items and 26 “gay marriage” items. The pro-family organization did not elaborate on the nature of those items.

those items are? I mean, seriously, what the hell is a transgendered or bisexual or gay or lesbian item?!

1121 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:54:43am

This is rich! Now the morons in Washington can't figure out what to do with the stress test results:
Bank Regulators Clash Over U.S. Stress-Tests Endgame

April 18 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Treasury and financial regulators are clashing with each other over how to disclose results from the stress tests of 19 U.S. banks, with some officials concerned at potential damage to weaker institutions.

With a May 4 deadline approaching, there is no set plan for how much information to release, how to categorize the results or who should make the announcements, people familiar with the matter said. While the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and other regulators want few details about the assessments to be publicized, the Treasury is pushing for broader disclosure.

The disarray highlights what threatens to be a lose-lose situation for Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner: If all the banks pass, the tests’ credibility will be questioned, and if some banks get failing grades and are forced to accept more government capital and oversight, they may be punished by investors and

customers.

“There are plenty of ways to go wrong here,” said Wayne Abernathy, executive vice president of the American Bankers Association in Washington. “It might have sounded good at the time, but now looking back, it has far more risk than benefit.”


What a dope this guy Geithner is. No wonder no one wants to work for him.

1122 jaunte  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:57:10am

re: #1120 realwest

Yes, I think the AFA is going overboard there. Into parody territory.

1123 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:57:29am

re: #1094 3 wood
Hey hi my friend! I would but never saw the comment! Someone deleted it and a whole bunch of other comments from it, but didn't ban it. I'm looking forward to meeting it again!

1124 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:58:44am

GM nearing accord on health care costs:
GM Said to Target UAW Health Accord Shortly After Chrysler Deal

April 18 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp., racing against a June 1 bankruptcy deadline, may be able to reach a union agreement to cut costs for a health-care trust within days after Chrysler LLC does so, people familiar with the talks said.

A Chrysler accord with the United Auto Workers probably can be quickly adapted to meet GM’s needs, said the people, who asked not to be identified because details aren’t complete. Chrysler’s plan is understood by GM to rely much more heavily on equity than cash, one person said.

GM has been trying since December to cut a $20.4 billion cash obligation to the trust in half as it tries to revamp operations and keep emergency U.S. loans.

The Obama administration told GM last month it needs even deeper cuts in debt to avoid a government-supported bankruptcy.

“I would expect we’d be able to pick up the pace here in the next several weeks,” Chief Executive Officer Fritz Henderson said yesterday on a conference call, without giving specifics about GM’s plans.

Chrysler and the UAW are close to an agreement in which the company would cede an equity stake of about 20 percent in exchange for paring obligations to a $10.6 billion medical fund, people familiar with those negotiations said yesterday.

The trusts are known as Voluntary Employee Beneficiary Associations. Union leaders and the automakers agreed in their 2007 contract talks to create the funds, which would free the companies from future retiree health-care

expenses in exchange for upfront contributions.

You watch, Obama will then use this as a justification to nationalize health care.

1125 3 wood  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:59:34am

Time for lunch. Later.

1126 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 9:59:38am

re: #1104 Dustyvet
Oh thanks Dusty, thanks a lot! It's ok, though, I'm pretty sure she doesn't know what an 11Bravo is anyway!

1127 lazardo  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 10:00:01am

re: #1119 countrygurl

On the other side of the spectrum, I would not be surprised if there were more than a few union workers who shop at Wal-Mart. So much for sticking to union principle...

1128 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 10:03:50am

re: #1119 countrygurl
Please see juante's #1079! And it wasn't country folks, it was the Relgious Right that Rose and juante were talkng about!

1129 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 10:04:52am

re: #1118 abolitionist
Glad to hear it for the same reason. I was just SHOCKED that they've forgotten how to make Black Shirts!

1130 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 10:06:22am

re: #1121 3 wood
ROTFLMAO! I think pretty soon Mr. Geithner may be looking for work, too!

1131 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 10:07:53am

re: #1078 realwest

My (heh, heh) Rambo reply to the post I sent you to, was this, IIRC:
"I'll take that as a compliment. I live in San Antonio, drop by anytime..."

1132 realwest  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 10:07:54am

Well y'all it's been fun but I gotta go now too!
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

1133 lazardo  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 10:10:03am

re: #1132 realwest

Cheeeeeeers.

/and hopefully I'll sober up, too.

1134 razorbacker  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 10:11:57am

re: #1124 3 wood

GM nearing accord on health care costs:
GM Said to Target UAW Health Accord Shortly After Chrysler Deal

You watch, Obama will then use this as a justification to nationalize health care.

Gosh. I wonder how that might impact this chart?

SS and Medicade as a percent of GDP

1135 Pietr  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 10:23:36am

Suppose I could've gone to the new thread to do so, but Naw-I'm stubborn! Have a pleasant day, Lizard Nation, I'll see ya' on the upthreads, but my Avatar will keep a CLOSE eye on things........L8rs.

1136 SixDegrees  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 10:29:05am

re: #1121 3 wood

This is rich! Now the morons in Washington can't figure out what to do with the stress test results:
Bank Regulators Clash Over U.S. Stress-Tests Endgame


What a dope this guy Geithner is. No wonder no one wants to work for him.

This whole idea of stress testing was f-cked up from the start. The large banks that still have capitol to work with want the results released, because it shows them to be in good shape while implying that their competitors aren't, giving the more stable banks a chance to grab market share and employees. This will force the banks identified as "more stressed" into even more stress. Geithner wants to keep the results secret for exactly this reason. But keeping the results secret flies in the face of keeping the bank's financial positions transparent, which is one of Treasury's mandates. In short, it not only doesn't work; it makes things worse. And stopping that means stonewalling the public, which is paying for the mess.

Gosh. Those guys in Washington are SO smart.

1137 2soonold2latesmart  Sat, Apr 18, 2009 7:45:55pm
1138 ledger1  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:20:05am

re: #289 littleoldlady

I try to add some humor to this site.

I do have difficulty logging on at times. Threads are moving so fast it hard to keep up.


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