Stephen Hawking ‘Very Ill,’ Rushed to Hospital

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Bad news from Britain: Stephen Hawking hospitalized, reported very ill.

LONDON – Famed mathematician Stephen Hawking was rushed to a hospital Monday and was seriously ill, Cambridge University said.

The university said Hawking has been fighting a chest infection for several weeks, and was being treated at Addenbrooke’s Hospital in Cambridge, the university city north of London.

“Professor Hawking is very ill,” said Gregory Hayman, the university’s head of communications. “He is undergoing tests. He has been unwell for a couple of weeks.” Later in the afternoon, Hayman said Hawking was “now comfortable but will be kept in hospital overnight.”

Hawking was involved in the search for the great goal of physics — a “unified theory” — which would resolve contradictions between Albert Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity, which describes the laws of gravity that govern the motion of large objects like planets, and the Theory of Quantum Mechanics, which deals with the world of subatomic particles.

“A complete, consistent unified theory is only the first step: our goal is a complete understanding of the events around us, and of our own existence,” he wrote in his best-selling book, “A Brief History of Time,” published in 1988.

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380 comments
1 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:41:30am

Hope he feels better soon.

2 pat  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:41:41am

Get well

3 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:41:46am

Hawking has opened my mind on many things, I offer my sincere thoughts for his health to improve.

4 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:42:02am

I wish him the best, and I hope he gets well soon. Hawking's work has been very good, and invaluable to humanity.

5 rawmuse  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:42:15am

He let his light shine, in more ways than one. I hope he pulls through.

6 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:42:36am

I hope he gets well soon.

7 pittrader1988  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:42:52am

hope he feels better, but someone that has ALS has a slim chance.

8 Gella  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:43:08am

i wish him fast recovery

9 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:43:57am

He suffers from ALS, which means infections of this kind are far more serious than for someone in good health generally. I hope he's able to recover sufficiently so that he can see the CERN physicists restart the LHC and test some of the theories that Hawking had been working on (and on which he made some bets).

10 jcm  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:44:01am

Punishment from God...

//// Creationist meltdown prediction


Prayers Dr. Hawking, he's a treasure.

11 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:44:11am

This is not good, especially with Lou Gehrig's Disease.

12 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:44:24am

He's already outlived his diagnosis by 40-some years and done more than 99% of non-disabled people even think of doing. A remarkable man and I wish him the best..

13 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:45:16am

I hope he sees a fast recovery on this and continues his remarkable fight against the ravages of ALS.

We are all better to have him in our world.

14 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:45:21am
Hawking "really is at the extreme end of the scale when it comes to survival," said Brian Dickie, director of research at the Motor Neurone Disease Association.

I can not help but wish Professor Hawking a complete and full recovery from his chest infection.

15 kynna  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:46:00am

Prayers for him and his family.

16 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:46:26am

Prayers going up for Professor Hawking. It's absolutely astounding that he's lived so long (46 years) with ALS.

17 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:46:40am
18 kynna  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:48:24am

I have a friend who recently was diagnosed with ALS. I've been thinking a lot about Hawking lately, because he gives me some hope.

19 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:48:42am

There are no further news in the British media - and the various reports look like repeats of an official announcement. They are practically identical right across the board.

He seems to have been ailing with this infection for a couple of weeks, and given his motor neurone disease, its not looking good.

His brilliant mind apart, for me he always embodied the saying 'mind over matter' - to have achieved what he did is just so immensely astounding.

I hope and pray that he does get better and that we still can share his wonderful insights.

20 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:49:05am

Prayers for a speedy recovery.

21 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:50:52am

Who boycotted, who walked out of racism talks

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Those that walked out should rethink their participation and keep going without looking back!

22 Jack Burton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:51:04am

A friend of mine from high school was diagnosed with ALS when he was about 23 years old and he did not even make a decade from that point before he passed away. That Stephen Hawking has made it as long as he has is nothing short of a miraculous triumph of will on his part. He refused to let this beat him. I hope he continues to not let it beat him.

23 Shinyhead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:52:03am

This is not good, I hope for a recovery as this man is one of the great minds not just of today, but in all our history.

A side note for vets and active duty I wanted to pass on, I just found out about.
If you are active duty or a vet you do not just get to put your hand over your heart and flag raising and such, but can salute instead.

Change in law

24 jcm  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:52:13am

re: #16 Ward Cleaver

Prayers going up for Professor Hawking. It's absolutely astounding that he's lived so long (46 years) with ALS.

I have a co-worker with "arrested" ALS, it progressed for awhile, limited her mobility and stopped. It's rare but it happens.

25 badger1970  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:52:17am

"A Brief History of Time". Wish him well.

26 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:53:53am

re: #21 Nevergiveup

Who boycotted, who walked out of racism talks

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Those that walked out should rethink their participation and keep going without looking back!

I was reading a similar article on CNN and come across this quote...

"The U.N. high commissioner for human rights said Sunday that she regrets -- and is "shocked" by -- the United States' decision to boycott."

But now where in the article is a statement from her about Arm-and-jackets remarks that caused the walkout.

27 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:54:42am

re: #26 Walter L. Newton

I was reading a similar article on CNN and come across this quote...

"The U.N. high commissioner for human rights said Sunday that she regrets -- and is "shocked" by -- the United States' decision to boycott."

But now where in the article is a statement from her about Arm-and-jackets remarks that caused the walkout.

She probably agrees with him

28 Wild Knight  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:54:58am

A homage to Professor Hawking. Trite perhaps, but I've always associated this poem with him, not least because the author himself was severely disabled:

Invictus

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll.
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

William Ernest Henley

29 freedombilly  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:56:01am

His contribution to science and the world we live in is impossible to quantify. He is truly a genius and I hope that he feels better very soon.

30 Wishing  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:56:09am

re: #23 Shinyhead

This is not good, I hope for a recovery as this man is one of the great minds not just of today, but in all our history.

A side note for vets and active duty I wanted to pass on, I just found out about.
If you are active duty or a vet you do not just get to put your hand over your heart and flag raising and such, but can salute instead.

Change in law

Expect to hear: This is so DHS can more easily spot those troublesome vets!
/kooks will be wild

31 Cathypop  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:56:10am

re: #28 Wild Knight

That is so beautiful

32 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:56:42am

re: #10 jcm

Punishment from God...

//// Creationist meltdown prediction


Prayers Dr. Hawking, he's a treasure.

That's my fear with this. There'll be many creationist meltdowns.

33 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:57:32am

re: #27 Nevergiveup

She probably agrees with him

Probably. I sit her, read these articles, and I am amazed that GROWN ADULTS can act like a bunch of school children in the playground. There is NO WAY that Iran should have had anyone making statements like this at a conference like this.

It would be like having Hitler talk about how to gas, cremate and bury people you don't like at a conference on brotherly love.

It actually hurts my head.

34 turn  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:57:35am

On the outside chance any of you lizards haven't read this book turn would highly recommend it:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

35 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:57:47am

re: #18 kynna

I have a friend who recently was diagnosed with ALS. I've been thinking a lot about Hawking lately, because he gives me some hope.

I'm sorry about your friend.

36 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:58:55am

re: #26 Walter L. Newton

I was reading a similar article on CNN and come across this quote...

"The U.N. high commissioner for human rights said Sunday that she regrets -- and is "shocked" by -- the United States' decision to boycott."

But now where in the article is a statement from her about Arm-and-jackets remarks that caused the walkout.

The commissioner's statement was made yesterday, before Chimpy's Ahmadinejad's speech.

Which doesn't make it any more worthwhile.

Probably the last we'll hear from the UN, now that everyone's predictions have been proven to be just as ghastly as feared. This is a major blow to UN credibility.

I wonder if that will mean anything.

37 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:59:15am

re: #34 turn

On the outside chance any of you lizards haven't read this book turn would highly recommend it:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

I have tried, and I tried watching the television show based on the book. I just had a hard time wrapping my brain around it. I should give it another go.

38 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:59:18am

re: #34 turn

On the outside chance any of you lizards haven't read this book turn would highly recommend it:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

The book has actually been update and revised and the newest edition is called "A Briefer History of Time."

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Get the most current one if you are interested.

39 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:00:25am

re: #9 lawhawk

He suffers from ALS, which means infections of this kind are far more serious than for someone in good health generally. I hope he's able to recover sufficiently so that he can see the CERN physicists restart the LHC and test some of the theories that Hawking had been working on (and on which he made some bets).

It would be pretty interesting if the Higgs-boson didn't exist, imagine all the new theories to come out of it!

40 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:00:30am

Steven Hawking is one of the greatest minds in all of human history. He has accomplished more than most could even dream and throughout has been a picture of humility. My thoughts and prayers are with him.

41 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:00:33am

re: #33 Walter L. Newton

Probably. I sit her, read these articles, and I am amazed that GROWN ADULTS can act like a bunch of school children in the playground. There is NO WAY that Iran should have had anyone making statements like this at a conference like this.

It would be like having Hitler talk about how to gas, cremate and bury people you don't like at a conference on brotherly love.

It actually hurts my head.

It's Hitler's birthday today.

42 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:00:34am

re: #36 SixDegrees

The commissioner's statement was made yesterday, before Chimpy's Ahmadinejad's speech.

Which doesn't make it any more worthwhile.

Probably the last we'll hear from the UN, now that everyone's predictions have been proven to be just as ghastly as feared. This is a major blow to UN credibility.

I wonder if that will mean anything.

I know that, but the CNN article was about the walkout AFTER the remarks and comments made by certain people, yet the U.N. high commissioner for human rights seems to have nothing NEW to say.

43 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:01:07am

re: #41 SixDegrees

It's Hitler's birthday today.

Yes.

44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:01:46am

What is Stephen Hawking if not the Einstein of his generation. He was brilliant before, but what did ALS do to make him more focused.

45 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:02:03am

re: #36 SixDegrees

Probably the last we'll hear from the UN, now that everyone's predictions have been proven to be just as ghastly as feared. This is a major blow to UN credibility.

The dithering during the ethnic cleansing in the Balkans wasn't?

The repeated allegations of rape against UN Peacekeepers wasn't?

The numerous anti-Israeli resolutions passed by Muslim despots wasn't?

Having Libya and Cuba chair a Human Rights committee wasn't?

How can the UN suffer a blow to it's credibility when it has none to start off with?

46 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:02:28am

I am amazed by Hawking.
A legend in his own time.
Goodness to him.

47 turn  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:02:33am

re: #37 doppelganglander

re: #38 Walter L. Newton

dopple, I'm going to get the latest version and reread it myself (thanks walter). It is the type of book you need to read several times for it even to have a chance of sinking in. Here is what turn thinks his greatest contribution to cosmology was [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

48 Shinyhead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:02:51am

I read ABHOT, and found it a fantastic book. I think a lot will depend on your exposure to some cosmological concepts. I have always been fascinated by the subject so it was if not light, at least darn enjoyable.

That said, even with no exposure to the subject, I would recommend it.

49 badger1970  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:03:23am

re: #37 doppelganglander

I'm with you. I'll think I'll warm up watching "Cosmos" first. I was too young the first time reading ABTIT. I think chapter 1 was where I stopped.

50 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:03:57am

re: #42 Walter L. Newton

I know that, but the CNN article was about the walkout AFTER the remarks and comments made by certain people, yet the U.N. high commissioner for human rights seems to have nothing NEW to say.

Her silence is disturbing, but predictable. As noted, this is a major blow to UN credibility, and their typical response in such situations (all too common recently) is to go to ground and hope everything blows over.

It would be a good opportunity for the US to start flogging UN reform. Again. Not that it would ever accomplish much except let the world know we stand in a position opposed to the current muck and slime.

51 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:04:25am

re: #41 SixDegrees

It's Hitler's birthday today.

I'll celebrate MonDAY instead.

/fu*k nazis

52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:04:56am

Stephen Hawking's Brief (and Briefer) History in Time were books with the intention of simplifying science to a layman.

I still read it with the look of Shaquille O'Neal before he shoots a free throw. Dead eyed, mouth breathing, blank stare.

53 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:05:42am

Bless his heart. I hope he rests comfortably.

Does anyone else remember his appearance on ST:TNG as a poker player with Data in the holosuite?

54 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:06:05am

re: #45 Fenway_Nation

The dithering during the ethnic cleansing in the Balkans wasn't?

The repeated allegations of rape against UN Peacekeepers wasn't?

The numerous anti-Israeli resolutions passed by Muslim despots wasn't?

Having Libya and Cuba chair a Human Rights committee wasn't?

How can the UN suffer a blow to it's credibility when it has none to start off with?

There's no shortage of such blows, to be certain.

Even the BBC, though, was saying that this conference was a mistake, that the UN basically had it's head up it's ass when it organized it, and that it is still firmly planted there. Harsh indeed, considering the source.

55 itellu3times  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:06:29am

Lucasian Chair

... and of course, Commander Data, after he retires from Star Fleet.

Get well soon, Dr. Hawking.

56 apachegunner  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:07:33am

I've read all of Hawking's books, a truly great and monstrously intelligent individual. I pray for his continued existance.

57 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:08:03am

re: #47 turn

re: #38 Walter L. Newton

dopple, I'm going to get the latest version and reread it myself (thanks walter). It is the type of book you need to read several times for it even to have a chance of sinking in. Here is what turn thinks his greatest contribution to cosmology was [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I appreciate Walter's suggestion of the revised edition, although I'm not sure briefer = easier. My science education has been woefully inadequate. I never even took basic physics or calculus. I am considering getting some courses on the topics from The Teaching Company, the greatest company on the planet. (Shameless plug, and no I don't own it. I wish.)

58 Jack Burton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:08:39am

re: #45 Fenway_Nation

Apparently Iran and OIC nations think a "Conference on Racism" is "Pro" rather than "Anti".

59 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:08:43am

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Stephen Hawking's Brief (and Briefer) History in Time were books with the intention of simplifying science to a layman.

I still read it with the look of Shaquille O'Neal before he shoots a free throw. Dead eyed, mouth breathing, blank stare.

I haven't read it yet (Brief or Briefer), it's sitting here on my reading pile to get to in the future.

Currently reading "Cryptonomicon," at 1100+ pages of smaller than usual print, it's about as dense as three novels (in fact, it is three interconnecting stories).

60 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:10:22am

re: #53 MandyManners

Bless his heart. I hope he rests comfortably.

Does anyone else remember his appearance on ST:TNG as a poker player with Data in the holosuite?

I have no idea what that means. I do know that I wouldn't want to play poker against Professor Hawking.

61 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:11:28am

re: #60 KenJen

I have no idea what that means. I do know that I wouldn't want to play poker against Professor Hawking.

ST:TNG is Star Trek: The Next Generation. First two seasons were "enh", but after that I thought it got really good.

62 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:11:36am

re: #53 MandyManners

Bless his heart. I hope he rests comfortably.

Does anyone else remember his appearance on ST:TNG as a poker player with Data in the holosuite?

Mandy, what are you talking about? Too much coffee? Translate for us duds.

63 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:11:51am

re: #59 Walter L. Newton

I haven't read it yet (Brief or Briefer), it's sitting here on my reading pile to get to in the future.

Currently reading "Cryptonomicon," at 1100+ pages of smaller than usual print, it's about as dense as three novels (in fact, it is three interconnecting stories).

Stephenson?

64 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:12:08am

re: #55 itellu3times

Lucasian Chair

... and of course, Commander Data, after he retires from Star Fleet.

Get well soon, Dr. Hawking.

Look at who else had this chair: Isaac Newton - Charles Babbage - Paul Dirac ...

In the 1970, when he was already severely disabled and when computers were not what they are today, he had to do his calculations in his head ...
Just imagining that makes me gulp.

65 Bob Dillon  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:12:11am

Best good wishes Professor Hawking.

66 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:12:13am

re: #53 MandyManners

Bless his heart. I hope he rests comfortably.

Does anyone else remember his appearance on ST:TNG as a poker player with Data in the holosuite?

Yes. Love that scene!

67 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:12:19am

re: #61 MrSilverDragon

ST:TNG is Star Trek: The Next Generation. First two seasons were "enh", but after that I thought it got really good.

Ok, got part one, now, what is "enh?" (why don't people use english around here?)

68 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:12:48am

Is it bad that I haven't seen Star Trek: The Next Generation in years, yet somehow knew what Mandy was talking about?

69 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:13:24am

re: #63 Creeping Eruption

Stephenson?

Yes, Neal. I'm on about page 250, and I have no idea what the overall story is about yet, but, it's interesting. I suspect the three stories start to connect, but not yet.

70 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:13:40am

re: #61 MrSilverDragon

ST:TNG is Star Trek: The Next Generation. First two seasons were "enh", but after that I thought it got really good.

Oh. Thanks. Obviously I'm not a Trekkie.

71 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:13:52am

re: #67 Walter L. Newton

Ok, got part one, now, what is "enh?" (why don't people use english around here?)

It's a slang term meaning "something that doesn't really impress".

72 Jack Burton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:14:13am

re: #59 Walter L. Newton

Currently reading "Cryptonomicon," at 1100+ pages of smaller than usual print, it's about as dense as three novels (in fact, it is three interconnecting stories).

I've attempted to read Cryptonomicon several times I just cant get into it. Everyone I know who has finished it loved it, but there's a bump I can never seem to get over 3 or 4 chapters into it.

73 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:14:56am

re: #70 KenJen

Oh. Thanks. Obviously I'm not a Trekkie.

Same here, although I personally know one of the actors in the new star trek movie (shamless name dropping).

74 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:15:42am

re: #64 yma o hyd

Look at who else had this chair: Isaac Newton - Charles Babbage - Paul Dirac ...

In the 1970, when he was already severely disabled and when computers were not what they are today, he had to do his calculations in his head ...
Just imagining that makes me gulp.

Wow. I can barely calculate a 20% tip in my head. I always tip 20% because it's easier to calculate than 15%.

/Yeah, I'm a math moron.

75 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:15:55am

re: #72 ArchangelMichael

I've attempted to read Cryptonomicon several times I just cant get into it. Everyone I know who has finished it loved it, but there's a bump I can never seem to get over 3 or 4 chapters into it.

There are books like that.
I've tried a few times to read 'Ulysses'.
Page 27 was the furthest I got, so far ...

76 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:16:08am

re: #69 Walter L. Newton

Yes, Neal. I'm on about page 250, and I have no idea what the overall story is about yet, but, it's interesting. I suspect the three stories start to connect, but not yet.

Check out Diamond Age if you haven't already. My favorite of his books (that I have read). I bought Anathema but have not dug in yet. I am a little skeptical. The story line is reminiscent of A Canticle for Liebowitz

77 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:16:18am

re: #72 ArchangelMichael

I've attempted to read Cryptonomicon several times I just cant get into it. Everyone I know who has finished it loved it, but there's a bump I can never seem to get over 3 or 4 chapters into it.

I devoured it, and then read everything else Neal Stephenson wrote.

You really need to try again. The Cap'n Crunch chapter is worth it. :D

78 apachegunner  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:16:19am

re: #59 Walter L. Newton

I haven't read it yet (Brief or Briefer), it's sitting here on my reading pile to get to in the future.

Currently reading "Cryptonomicon," at 1100+ pages of smaller than usual print, it's about as dense as three novels (in fact, it is three interconnecting stories).

That is not written by Hawking is it. If it was, about how long ago?

79 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:16:28am

re: #72 ArchangelMichael

I've attempted to read Cryptonomicon several times I just cant get into it. Everyone I know who has finished it loved it, but there's a bump I can never seem to get over 3 or 4 chapters into it.

Skip over the PURE math pages, it's a nod to the real math geeks, but you really don't have to grasp it to grasp the basic plot. That's my advice.

80 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:16:33am

re: #50 SixDegrees

Her silence is disturbing, but predictable. As noted, this is a major blow to UN credibility, and their typical response in such situations (all too common recently) is to go to ground and hope everything blows over.

It would be a good opportunity for the US to start flogging UN reform. Again. Not that it would ever accomplish much except let the world know we stand in a position opposed to the current muck and slime.

1) the US under Obama loves the UN, so forget that.
2) How is anything a blow to the UN's what word was that "credibility" that went
bye bye a long time ago.

81 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:16:38am

re: #70 KenJen

Oh. Thanks. Obviously I'm not a Trekkie.

At this point in the game, "Trekkie" is considered to be a derogatory term, as opposed to "Trekker." Therefore, as a Star Wars fan, I encourage the continued use of "Trekkie."

82 aggieann  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:16:58am

re: #34 turn

On the outside chance any of you lizards haven't read this book turn would highly recommend it:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

I never got past the turtles on about p. 3--and I have a Ph.D.!

83 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:17:32am

re: #73 Walter L. Newton

Same here, although I personally know one of the actors in the new star trek movie (shamless name dropping).

I run into William Shattner every once in awhile. He's into Saddlebred horses and I live in the Saddlebred Horse Capital of the World. He's tiny.

84 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:17:35am

re: #82 aggieann

I never got past the turtles on about p. 3--and I have a Ph.D.!

Stackist!

/

85 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:17:44am

re: #74 doppelganglander

Wow. I can barely calculate a 20% tip in my head. I always tip 20% because it's easier to calculate than 15%.

/Yeah, I'm a math moron.

I used to calculate a 10% tip then multiply the total by 2.

Now I just use the calculator function on my phone- it almost looks like I'm checking messages or the forecast or something.

86 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:18:01am

I've tried to read Ayn Rand a couple of times. I usually get to page three or four. It's like getting my wheels stuck in deep mud.

87 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:18:18am

re: #68 Fenway_Nation

Is it bad that I haven't seen Star Trek: The Next Generation in years, yet somehow knew what Mandy was talking about?


Only if your "pocket-protector" has the "Babylon 5" logo.

88 Dianna  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:18:42am

re: #86 Catttt

I've tried to read Ayn Rand a couple of times. I usually get to page three or four. It's like getting my wheels stuck in deep mud.

There's a reason for this. You have been stunned by the beating you received in those pages.

89 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:19:18am

re: #77 Catttt

I devoured it, and then read everything else Neal Stephenson wrote.

You really need to try again. The Cap'n Crunch chapter is worth it. :D

Buzzsawmonkey convinced me to rescue "Quicksilver" from the yard sale pile and give it another chance. If I live long enough to finish the Baroque Cycle, I'll give Cryptonomicon a chance. Lately I've been on more of a Neil Gaiman kick (American Gods, Neverwhere, and I've got Anansi Boys in the on deck circle).

90 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:19:19am

re: #74 doppelganglander

Wow. I can barely calculate a 20% tip in my head. I always tip 20% because it's easier to calculate than 15%.

/Yeah, I'm a math moron.

Know the feeling ... Simple arithmetic is ok, but anything above?
Never could get my head round all those equations. Wasn't for lack of trying - just a basic inability to grasp the concepts.

Funny that, because statistics made a lot of sense to me ...

91 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:19:24am

20:59 Dershowitz says Desmond Tutu is a `racist and bigot` (DPA)

Yeah, so I've been saying that for years. Well anyway Alan, welcome to the Party. Oh by the way Alan, who did you vote for?

92 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:19:41am

re: #81 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

At this point in the game, "Trekkie" is considered to be a derogatory term, as opposed to "Trekker." Therefore, as a Star Wars fan, I encourage the continued use of "Trekkie."

I'll group you all together and call you nerds!
/

93 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:19:54am

re: #75 yma o hyd

There are books like that.
I've tried a few times to read 'Ulysses'.
Page 27 was the furthest I got, so far ...

My boss, a man much smarter than I, has been trying to read Finnegans Wake for the past 10 years, and that's with a Joyce scholar to assist him.

94 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:20:19am

re: #53 MandyManners

Bless his heart. I hope he rests comfortably.

Does anyone else remember his appearance on ST:TNG as a poker player with Data in the holosuite?

Yes, indeed. First thing I thought of when I read this news.

95 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:20:21am

re: #85 Fenway_Nation

I used to calculate a 10% tip then multiply the total by 2.

Now I just use the calculator function on my phone- it almost looks like I'm checking messages or the forecast or something.

Yep, 10% times two. Fun with decimal points. If I could use the calculator function on my phone without swearing, I would.

96 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:20:28am

re: #23 Shinyhead

A side note for vets and active duty I wanted to pass on, I just found out about.
If you are active duty or a vet you do not just get to put your hand over your heart and flag raising and such, but can salute instead.

Change in law

Thanks Shinyhead. And I thought it was difficult to hold back the tears as I remembered the sacrifices made for the Republic for which it stands as I stood with my hand on my heart.

97 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:20:33am

re: #78 apachegunner

That is not written by Hawking is it. If it was, about how long ago?

No, it's a historical fiction novel by Neal Stephenson, about the WWII code projects combined with a modern contemporary story about setting up a "data haven" on a south sea island, combined with another story about the fighting men working on some secret missions using data gathered by breaking the codes.

98 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:21:42am

re: #74 doppelganglander

Wow. I can barely calculate a 20% tip in my head. I always tip 20% because it's easier to calculate than 15%.

/Yeah, I'm a math moron.

It's easy. Just do 10 percent, then add half of what you come up with to the amount.

99 apachegunner  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:21:45am

re: #97 Walter L. Newton ahhhh, ok. thanks.

100 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:21:48am
101 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:21:57am

re: #94 Catttt

Yes, indeed. First thing I thought of when I read this news.

First thing I thought of was his guest appearance on The Simpsons. Homer confused him with Larry Flynt.

102 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:22:07am

re: #93 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

My boss, a man much smarter than I, has been trying to read Finnegans Wake for the past 10 years, and that's with a Joyce scholar to assist him.

10 years?
Blimey.
Speak of dedication!
I haven't even bought that book - I knew it would just sit on a shelf, collecting dust ...

103 apachegunner  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:22:37am

re: #97 Walter L. Newton

No, it's a historical fiction novel by Neal Stephenson, about the WWII code projects combined with a modern contemporary story about setting up a "data haven" on a south sea island, combined with another story about the fighting men working on some secret missions using data gathered by breaking the codes.


that would be enigma i'll bet.

104 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:22:44am

re: #101 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

First thing I thought of was his guest appearance on The Simpsons. Homer confused him with Larry Flynt.

That's cute.

105 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:23:33am

re: #102 yma o hyd

10 years?
Blimey.
Speak of dedication!
I haven't even bought that book - I knew it would just sit on a shelf, collecting dust ...

They get together every Friday night to read 1 page & discuss.

106 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:23:33am

re: #98 Catttt

It's easy. Just do 10 percent, then add half of what you come up with to the amount.

I know, but that's three steps instead of two and I'm lazy.

BTW, I'm thoroughly enjoying a thread about what books we haven't read or can't get through even though we are otherwise smart people. Even big Lizard brains have their weaknesses.

107 Jack Burton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:23:39am

re: #77 Catttt

I devoured it, and then read everything else Neal Stephenson wrote.

You really need to try again. The Cap'n Crunch chapter is worth it. :D

I really liked Snow Crash (except for the stereotypical 90s cyberpunk hand-wringing about corporations taking over everything ZMOG!), and I plan on reading Diamond Age eventually. Maybe I'll try again with Cryptonomicon this summer.

108 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:23:44am

re: #41 SixDegrees

Goody. Let's find a swastika--the bad kind--and pee on it.

109 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:24:01am

re: #96 CyanSnowHawk

Thanks Shinyhead. And I thought it was difficult to hold back the tears as I remembered the sacrifices made for the Republic for which it stands as I stood with my hand on my heart.

Yup we were discussing that yesterday. And the always popular suggestion of "when in doubt, salute"

110 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:24:16am

re: #107 ArchangelMichael

I really liked Snow Crash (except for the stereotypical 90s cyberpunk hand-wringing about corporations taking over everything ZMOG!), and I plan on reading Diamond Age eventually. Maybe I'll try again with Cryptonomicon this summer.

Diamond Age is his best

111 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:24:38am

re: #105 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

They get together every Friday night to read 1 page & discuss.

OMG!

And on a Friday night, too?

OMG!

112 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:25:35am

re: #103 apachegunner

that would be enigma i'll bet.

I'd have to shoot you if I answered that question. :)

Yes, but like I say, it's historical fiction, so, it skirts with the facts. So far, 250 pages in, the three story lines are not converging yet (I think they will).

Very clever writer. But as some have said, long, complex and a lot of nerdy stuff, but the humor is a lot like Umberto Eco (in my opinion), lovely stuff.

113 Athens Runaway  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:25:35am

re: #55 itellu3times

Lucasian Chair

... and of course, Commander Data, after he retires from Star Fleet.

Get well soon, Dr. Hawking.

Nope, Data died, remember?

114 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:26:01am

re: #91 Nevergiveup

20:59 Dershowitz says Desmond Tutu is a `racist and bigot` (DPA)

Yeah, so I've been saying that for years. Well anyway Alan, welcome to the Party. Oh by the way Alan, who did you vote for?

I've found many in the C of E to be more holier than thou than most Southern Baptists--except the Anglicans are at the other end of the political spectrum.

115 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:26:04am

re: #73 Walter L. Newton

Same here, although I personally know one of the actors in the new star trek movie (shamless name dropping).


Ree shirt #4?

116 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:26:07am

re: #103 apachegunner

that would be enigma i'll bet.

Have you ever been to the Spy Museum in D.C.? It's got a big section on Enigma and Bletchly Park that's absolutely fascinating. The whole thing is great and actually worth the price of admission, even among the plethora of free museums in town.

117 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:26:26am

re: #115 DaddyG

Ree shirt #4?

What?

118 apachegunner  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:26:33am

ok, i'll put it on my list

re: #112 Walter L. Newton

119 Shinyhead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:26:38am

re: #109 Nevergiveup

Yup we were discussing that yesterday. And the always popular suggestion of "when in doubt, salute"


Ah, I was out of touch as I had the joy of playing announcer at a pony show.
Not exactly as exciting as calling a boxing match LOL.

120 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:26:39am

re: #100 Iron Fist

But Desmond Tutu can't be a racist. He's black!

[/Moonbat]

I've often wondered what ever happened to Desmond One One, or what WILL happen to Desmond Three Three

121 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:26:46am

re: #109 Nevergiveup

Yup we were discussing that yesterday. And the always popular suggestion of "when in doubt, salute"

LOL. When I was in ROTC, we wore standard class A uniforms, but with special ROTC rankings, which were represented by shiny dots & diamonds. If we were on a base for an FTX, you'd often see regular Army privates take a look at us, hesitate, then salute, just to be sure.

122 brookly red  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:26:51am

re: #108 calcajun

Goody. Let's find a swastika--the bad kind--and pee on it.

/please remember to disable the skin-head wearing it first...

123 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:26:53am

re: #113 Athens Runaway

No one "dies" in that universe--unless they're wearing a red shirt.

124 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:27:27am

re: #115 DaddyG

Ree shirt #4?

If you meant "red shirt #4," no (I'm not a trek fan, but I know that term, since is is a common term used in casting movies).

No, Simon Pegg, who is playing Scotty.

125 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:27:29am

re: #120 sattv4u2

I've often wondered what ever happened to Desmond One One, or what WILL happen to Desmond Three Three

Wasn't that the name of one of Data's "brothers"?
/

126 apachegunner  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:27:58am

re: #116 doppelganglander
I loved it!

127 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:28:06am

re: #124 Walter L. Newton

If you meant "red shirt #4," no (I'm not a trek fan, but I know that term, since is is a common term used in casting movies).

No, Simon Pegg, who is playing Scotty.

Really? We're big fans at our house. He seems like a cool guy.

128 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:28:19am

re: #120 sattv4u2

I've often wondered what ever happened to Desmond One One, or what WILL happen to Desmond Three Three

Or why not Desmond Four. Desmond 2 squared.

129 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:28:20am

re: #80 Nevergiveup

the US under Obama loves the UN

Apparently not enough to attend it's highly publicized conference. And their withdrawal pretty much pulled the plug for several other important fence-squatters yesterday.

130 Athens Runaway  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:28:40am

re: #123 calcajun

Denise Crosby would beg to differ with you.

re: #125 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Ha!

131 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:28:55am

re: #125 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

No. That was Lore and B-9....Oh Dear Lord-- I really MUST get out more.

132 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:29:33am

re: #121 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

LOL. When I was in ROTC, we wore standard class A uniforms, but with special ROTC rankings, which were represented by shiny dots & diamonds. If we were on a base for an FTX, you'd often see regular Army privates take a look at us, hesitate, then salute, just to be sure.

Yup. My wife asked me the other day why they sometimes salute "her" when she drives thru a gate. She didn't know the DOD sticker on the car indicated I was an Officer and they couldn't be sure I wasn't in the car. Or technically she could be an Officer but lets not get carried away now?

133 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:29:44am

re: #107 ArchangelMichael

I really liked Snow Crash (except for the stereotypical 90s cyberpunk hand-wringing about corporations taking over everything ZMOG!), and I plan on reading Diamond Age eventually. Maybe I'll try again with Cryptonomicon this summer.

Zodiac is fun - really corporate overlord bashing, but fun.

134 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:29:48am

re: #127 doppelganglander

Really? We're big fans at our house. He seems like a cool guy.

His father, Richard Pegg, is on our board of directors at our theatre and father Pegg also directs shows for us and designs sets.

Simon stops by when he is in the states, and I suspect I will run into him during the promo period of this movie.

135 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:30:17am

re: #129 SixDegrees

Apparently not enough to attend it's highly publicized conference. And their withdrawal pretty much pulled the plug for several other important fence-squatters yesterday.

Yeah, but just wait and see how everything plays out

136 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:30:24am

re: #108 calcajun

Goody. Let's find a swastika--the bad kind--and pee on it.

Works for me.

Maybe we can send them to the UN when we're finished, as a reminder of their cluelessness.

137 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:30:26am

re: #116 doppelganglander

Have you ever been to the Spy Museum in D.C.? It's got a big section on Enigma and Bletchly Park that's absolutely fascinating. The whole thing is great and actually worth the price of admission, even among the plethora of free museums in town.

Always wanted to go there, as well as the National Cryptologic Museum.

138 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:30:33am

re: #130 Athens Runaway

Nope she came back as a bad Romulan after "Yesterday's Enterprise" went through a wormhole and...Sweet Jesus--I really do need to get my internal editor fixed.

139 Miss Molly  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:31:11am

I wish I could understand all that Professor Hawking writes about but it is beyond me. I feel lucky to understand some of it. What an extraordinary mind and personal determination Professor Hawking has displayed all his life. I hope he will recover and stay with us for a long time as there is much he can teach all of us.

140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:31:24am

re: #134 Walter L. Newton

Shawn of the Dead? Hot Fuzz?

141 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:31:26am

re: #137 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Always wanted to go there, as well as the National Cryptologic Museum.

That site must be a phony. Every thing is written in plain text.

142 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:31:27am

re: #136 SixDegrees

Hey--if the NEA approved "Piss Christ", why not "Piss Nazi"?

143 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:32:07am

re: #134 Walter L. Newton

His father, Richard Pegg, is on our board of directors at our theatre and father Pegg also directs shows for us and designs sets.

Simon stops by when he is in the states, and I suspect I will run into him during the promo period of this movie.

Cool. I saw Shawn of the Dead. Rather funny movie, IMHO, well done as well.

144 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:32:08am

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Shawn of the Dead? Hot Fuzz?

Er yea. And many more movies and British TV shows.

145 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:32:40am

re: #116 doppelganglander

Have you ever been to the Spy Museum in D.C.? It's got a big section on Enigma and Bletchly Park that's absolutely fascinating. The whole thing is great and actually worth the price of admission, even among the plethora of free museums in town.

My wife was at a conference and I spent a whole day there. One of the coolest museums.

146 Buck  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:33:08am

re: #55 itellu3times

Lucasian Chair

... and of course, Commander Data, after he retires from Star Fleet.

Get well soon, Dr. Hawking.

That was an episode where Picard was imagining the future....

-----or was he?

147 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:33:16am

re: #144 Walter L. Newton

Spaced, for one. Also, he was in Band of Brothers--a bit of a cameo, really.

148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:33:18am

re: #144 Walter L. Newton

The complete library of his work, to me. He's great. Typical roles for him? What else would you recommend?

149 Athens Runaway  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:34:03am

re: #138 calcajun

Hawking needs to get better so we can make this plot line so.

150 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:34:07am

re: #134 Walter L. Newton

How was your show this weekend?

151 SummerSong  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:34:28am

My goodness it is hot in SoCAL today!

I'm going to have to get up early to tend the garden.

152 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:34:30am

re: #143 Honorary Yooper

Cool. I saw Shawn of the Dead. Rather funny movie, IMHO, well done as well.

"Shawn of the Dead" is one of my top five favorite zombie movies. Worth a watch at least once. "Army of Darkness" is up there as well, for the humor of it.

153 subsailor68  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:34:37am

re: #148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The complete library of his work, to me. He's great. Typical roles for him? What else would you recommend?

I have kind of a soft spot for "Run, Fat Boy, Run", which is sort of a gentle comedy - and a little different role for him.

154 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:34:38am

damn ,,,, shows about to start ,,,, I'll bet my client will want/ need me to do something. I hate when work interferes with my LGF time!

155 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:34:46am

A better description of the book I was talking about, without any spoilers...

Cryptonomicon is a 1999 novel by Neal Stephenson. It concurrently follows the exploits of World War II-era cryptographers affiliated with Bletchley Park in their attempts to crack Axis codes and fight the Nazi submarine fleet, alongside the story of their descendants, who are attempting to use modern cryptography to build a data haven in the fictitious state of Kinakuta, a small nation with geographical and political parallels to Brunei.

Cryptonomicon was nominated for the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 2000.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

(I wonder why it was nominated for a Hugo? I thought that award was for sci-fi not straight fiction. I would put Cryptonomicon in the high level fiction like Eco's "Foucaults Pendulum")

156 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:35:03am

re: #115 DaddyG

Heh.

/Holodeck door monitor #1.

157 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:35:09am

re: #113 Athens Runaway

Nope, Data died, remember?

It's Star Trek, nobody dies for very long.

158 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:35:18am

re: #143 Honorary Yooper

Cool. I saw Shawn of the Dead. Rather funny movie, IMHO, well done as well.



Shawn of The Dead
works great as a comedy as well as a zombie movie. Brilliant film, really.

159 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:35:48am

re: #148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The complete library of his work, to me. He's great. Typical roles for him? What else would you recommend?

Wiki has a rundown...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

160 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:35:49am

re: #142 calcajun

Hey--if the NEA approved "Piss Christ", why not "Piss Nazi"?

I like it, and it might get on the MSM.

161 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:36:05am
Later in the afternoon, Hayman said Hawking was “now comfortable but will be kept in hospital overnight.”

Looks like a little good news in the bad news... here's to Dr. Hawking's speedy, complete recovery.

162 SixDegrees  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:36:10am

re: #135 Nevergiveup

Yeah, but just wait and see how everything plays out

Well, so far we've seen the Conference itself completely and very publicly wrecked; we've seen Monkey-boy booed and pelted off the stage; we've seen the UN Human Rights Commission made a laughing stock in front of the entire planet.

Pretty good score up to this point. I'm anxious to see what else there is that can be wrung out of this embarrassment, but there's not much left to demolish.

163 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:36:16am

re: #157 CyanSnowHawk

It's Star Trek, nobody dies for very long.

Cept the green chick that Kirk nails

164 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:36:35am

re: #152 MrSilverDragon

"Shawn of the Dead" is one of my top five favorite zombie movies. Worth a watch at least once. "Army of Darkness" is up there as well, for the humor of it.

"Good Ash, bad Ash - I'm the guy with the gun."

165 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:36:38am

re: #150 KenJen

How was your show this weekend?

Canceled opening night on Friday due to the snow storm, Sat., Sun went well. It's looks to be a good run, five weeks to go now.

166 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:36:55am

re: #163 sattv4u2

Cept the green chick that Kirk nails

You don't die from space clap.

167 lostlakehiker  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:37:23am

re: #22 ArchangelMichael

A friend of mine from high school was diagnosed with ALS when he was about 23 years old and he did not even make a decade from that point before he passed away. That Stephen Hawking has made it as long as he has is nothing short of a miraculous triumph of will on his part. He refused to let this beat him. I hope he continues to not let it beat him.

If Hawking dies, it won't have been because he `let it beat him'. It will be because it just flat beat him. Mind over matter can only be carried so far. The victims of these degenerative diseases, the ones who don't just fold their tents and await an early death, are all heroically determined. Some die shortly after diagnosis nonetheless; others live longer, and a few live much longer than expected. The difference lies not so much in strength of will but in the vagaries of fate.

168 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:38:20am

re: #152 MrSilverDragon

"Shawn of the Dead" is one of my top five favorite zombie movies. Worth a watch at least once. "Army of Darkness" is up there as well, for the humor of it.

"Army of Darkness"! Epic!

Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This... is my boomstick!
Hail to the king, baby.

169 sarah  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:38:33am

thoughts and prayers to him.

170 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:39:07am

re: #165 Walter L. Newton

Me Dad was recently in a musical at our local county theater. I'm not a big fan of musicals but I really enjoyed this one . Called Working.

171 hazzyday  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:39:40am

At work we will occasionally separate out the meetings to a Trekkie side and a Star Wars side of the table. Babylon 5 wackos are not allowed.

172 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:40:34am

re: #171 hazzyday

At work we will occasionally separate out the meetings to a Trekkie side and a Star Wars side of the table. Babylon 5 wackos are not allowed.

Then there's the lone Farscape guy sobbing quietly to himself in the corner...

173 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:40:35am

re: #170 KenJen

Me Dad was recently in a musical at our local county theater. I'm not a big fan of musicals but I really enjoyed this one . Called Working.

Yes, the Stephen Schwartz musical based on the book by Studs Terkel. I know it.

174 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:41:12am

re: #117 Walter L. Newton

What?

PIMF

Red shirt #4?

(The guy who always dies on the planetary expedition)

I really want to see the new Star Trek too. I grew up watching Shatner and crew.

175 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:41:20am

re: #172 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Then there's the lone Farscape guy sobbing quietly to himself in the corner...

That'd be me. I really enjoyed Farscape.

(goes back to sobbing)

176 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:41:44am

re: #17 SixDegrees

Completely off-topic, but I found a new job for Pam Geller that utilizes her unique talents.

Pam could shake 'em, where the mannequin, uh, can't.

177 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:41:45am

re: #163 sattv4u2

Cept the green chick that Kirk nails

Marta, an Orion - and in her dreams Captain Kirk would have sex with that crazy dame. :D

178 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:42:01am

re: #162 SixDegrees

Well, so far we've seen the Conference itself completely and very publicly wrecked; we've seen Monkey-boy booed and pelted off the stage; we've seen the UN Human Rights Commission made a laughing stock in front of the entire planet.

Pretty good score up to this point. I'm anxious to see what else there is that can be wrung out of this embarrassment, but there's not much left to demolish.

I wish I was as optimistic as you. This farce still can produce alot of damage.

179 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:42:15am

re: #175 MrSilverDragon

That'd be me. I really enjoyed Farscape.

(goes back to sobbing)

Serenity? Anyone? Just watched it again the other day... One of the best sci-fi's I've seen in a LONG time...

180 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:42:53am

re: #178 Nevergiveup

I wish I was as optimistic as you. This farce still can produce alot of damage.

Now their is a real danger of a clown purge in Iraq. /

181 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:43:09am

OT: I don't know if this was posted earlier, but:

Mark Steyn on Canadian gun registry bureaucrats who want to know about your romantic life:

Pierre Lemieux is a libertarian Quebecer, which makes him a member of what may be North America's least electorally significant minority. ["What am I? Chopped liver?!" gripes Yours Truly, a DC-residing conservative atheist gun-owning Democrat] He's a gun owner, and a couple of years back he was obliged to fill in the relevant government paperwork:

Before renewing his gun permit in 2007, the authorities decided to inquire into Lemieux's bedroom history. Did he divorce anyone in the last two years? Did he break up with a girlfriend? If yes, use a separate sheet to explain.

Pardon me? Explain?

Well, it was nothing personal . Apparently, Canada's government feels it ought to know the romantic status of all firearm owners.

[...]

The proper response of free men to the trivial but degrading impositions of the state is to answer as Pierre Lemieux did. But it requires a kind of 24/7 tenacity few can muster - and the machinery of bureaucracy barely pauses to scoff: In an age of mass communication and computer records, the screen blips for the merest nano-second, and your gun rights disappear. The remorseless, incremental annexation of "individual existence" by technologically all-pervasive micro-regulation is a profound threat to free peoples. But do we have the will to resist it?

182 badger1970  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:43:52am

re: #82 aggieann

The 3d shadows through me pretty hard.

183 tremblur  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:44:05am

I love it.

Pre-emptive accusations of "creationist melt-downs."

Because Hawking is in the hospital? Classy.

Kinda like Obama pre-emptively crying "Racism! McCain's going to say I have a funny name!"

Except he never did.

184 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:44:27am

re: #175 MrSilverDragon

That'd be me. I really enjoyed Farscape.

(goes back to sobbing)

I won a complete Farscape action figure set from Sci Fi Channel, and yes, I loved that series too.

185 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:44:46am

re: #171 hazzyday

At work we will occasionally separate out the meetings to a Trekkie side and a Star Wars side of the table. Babylon 5 wackos are not allowed.

We're busying trying to figure out who you are and what you want.

186 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:44:57am
187 Kragar  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:45:17am

re: #175 MrSilverDragon

That'd be me. I really enjoyed Farscape.

(goes back to sobbing)

Farscape was the best, though Bablyon 5 was good too.

188 turn  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:45:35am

re: #151 SummerSong

My goodness it is hot in SoCAL today!

I'm going to have to get up early to tend the garden.

Back from lunch, seriously it went from 60's to 90's in one day in Sac. Supposed to be 92 today (79 now). What are you growing this year? Helped the neighbor till his garden yesterday, mine this weekend.

189 gmsc  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:45:39am

Get well soon, Professor!

Besides, they're just starting to add new Futurama shows and movies, so they'll need you again!
;)

190 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:45:43am

I can't get into any of these space based T.V. shows. I was forced to watch Mork and Mindy as a child and I think that did some damage. Na-Nu. Na-Nu.

191 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:46:20am

re: #186 Iron Fist

Very, very good. If you haven't gotten the series on DVD, you should check it out. It was a damn fine show. I just wish Fox hadn't dicked around with it (moving the timeslot to the point of you didn't know when it would be showing). It is head and shoulders above the basic crap that has been coming out of Hollyweird for years.

I may have to do just that.

192 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:46:21am

Speaking of the UN:

A greenhouse gases trading system funded with the support of then-Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama, which is likely to play a major role in his $650 million cap-and-trade initiative, lists five present or former top-ranking U.N. officials on its advisory board who've had enormous influence over climate change matters -- including one who received $1 million from a convicted South Korean lobbyist.

The most controversial figure of the five, Maurice Strong, was one of former Secretary General Kofi's key aides at the U.N. for years until the Iraq Oil-for-Food scandal forced him to leave. Since then Strong has lived mostly in China. Calls to the exchange for comment about Strong's role, and that of other U.N. figures, were not returned.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I used to scare my kids when they were little by saying watch out for the UN person under you bed at night?

193 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:47:22am

re: #179 Oh no...Sand People!

Serenity? Anyone? Just watched it again the other day... One of the best sci-fi's I've seen in a LONG time...

That's on my list of shows to watch. I need to obtain it en toto. Many have recommended it to me.

TrueBlood is good - first season available soon on DVD.

Warning - it is HBO - there is sex. Yes there is. And gorgeous vampires.

194 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:47:42am

re: #189 gmsc

Get well soon, Professor!

Besides, they're just starting to add new Futurama shows and movies, so they'll need you again!
;)

For real! I knew about the movie but they are working on more episodes? If only they would bring back Arrested Development the series as opposed to just the movie...

195 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:47:50am

re: #152 MrSilverDragon

"Shawn of the Dead" is one of my top five favorite zombie movies. Worth a watch at least once. "Army of Darkness" is up there as well, for the humor of it.


I'm a big Zombie-flick fan as well. Shawn of the Dead is just about the ultimate/last word in the genre. Funniest and most clever in a very smart and clever genre of film, imho. [I love Dawn of the Dead 2004, btw]

196 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:48:00am

The sole reason I have cable is sci fi type shows.

197 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:48:19am

'Prof Hawking - who is confined to a motorised wheelchair - returned from a work trip from America on Saturday after ill-health forced him to cancel appearances.
He was taken to Addenbrooke's hospital, Cambridge, yesterday lunch time.
A close colleague said the tests were 'far more serious than routine'.'

'Doctors later said the academic and the best-selling author of several books including A Brief History of Time was due to spent the night in hospital. Family members were at his side.'


[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

198 gmsc  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:48:53am

re: #194 Oh no...Sand People!

For real! I knew about the movie but they are working on more episodes? If only they would bring back Arrested Development the series as opposed to just the movie...

Yep – they're doing the movies first, and during that process actual half-hour TV show episodes are in the works.

199 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:49:40am

re: #195 Golem Akbar

Shawn of the Dead is just about the ultimate/last word in the genre. Funniest and most clever in a very smart and clever genre of film, imho.

Single funniest line IMHO: "Would anybody like... a peanut?"

Also, the impromptu zombie method-acting class was hysterical.

200 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:49:44am

re: #194 Oh no...Sand People!

I "discovered" that show last year in syndication. Watched every single episode (mostly via Hulu) over the next few weeks. Great comedy.

201 Pupdawg  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:49:46am

Truly an inspirational genius...a unique man very much like Einstein was...I wish him a speedy recovery...my prayers are with him, his family as well as mankind. Without Stephen Hawking, the Universe would seem smaller and shine less bright.

202 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:50:01am

re: #195 Golem Akbar

I love Dawn of the Dead 2004, btw

Ah yes, the remake of the campy (yet still holds a dear place in my heart) '70s version.

I gotta say, I like the "fast zombies" compared to the "slow zombies" as a contrast of the two movies.

203 LGoPs  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:50:02am

OT
Dennis Prager talking about Obama's embrace of Hugo Chavez.......

204 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:50:33am

re: #198 gmsc

Yep – they're doing the movies first, and during that process actual half-hour TV show episodes are in the works.

Thank you Santa...where ever you are.

205 badger1970  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:50:36am

re: #199 Occasional Reader

"Child locks?!"

"Well Shaun, you can never be too careful"

206 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:50:43am

re: #134 Walter L. Newton

His father, Richard Pegg, is on our board of directors at our theatre and father Pegg also directs shows for us and designs sets.

Simon stops by when he is in the states, and I suspect I will run into him during the promo period of this movie.

Very nice. Talent definitely runs in the family.

207 Bobblehead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:51:25am

re: #59 Walter L. Newton

I haven't read it yet (Brief or Briefer), it's sitting here on my reading pile to get to in the future.

Currently reading "Cryptonomicon," at 1100+ pages of smaller than usual print, it's about as dense as three novels (in fact, it is three interconnecting stories).

Have you read "Anathem" yet?

208 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:51:50am

re: #195 Golem Akbar

I'm a big Zombie-flick fan as well. Shawn of the Dead is just about the ultimate/last word in the genre. Funniest and most clever in a very smart and clever genre of film, imho. [I love Dawn of the Dead 2004, btw]

I don't know, "Dead Alive" (aka: Brain Dead) by Peter Jackson is certainly up there in the funny zombie movie category.

209 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:52:03am

re: #196 Catttt

The sole reason I have cable is sci fi type shows.

so there's a differnt noise in my house besides Mrs SATT

//

210 Bobblehead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:52:09am

re: #187 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Farscape was the best, though Bablyon 5 was good too.

I, too, miss Farscape.

211 turn  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:52:26am

re: #201 Pupdawg

Truly an inspirational genius...a unique man very much like Einstein was...I wish him a speedy recovery...my prayers are with him, his family as well as mankind. Without Stephen Hawking, the Universe would seem smaller and shine less bright.

His radiation theory always seemed to be comforting to turn, I didn't like the notion everything would eventually be gobbled up in black holes and lost forever. Feel a little better knowing black holes will evaporate eventually.

212 Kragar  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:52:32am

re: #208 Walter L. Newton

I don't know, "Dead Alive" (aka: Brain Dead) by Peter Jackson is certainly up there in the funny zombie movie category.

"I KICK ASS FOR THE LORD!"

213 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:52:39am
214 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:52:59am

re: #137 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Always wanted to go there, as well as the National Cryptologic Museum.

I would like to see that too. I might get a chance this year or next since my son is stationed at Fort Meade. I also want to visit the National Museum of Crime and Punishment.

215 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:53:23am

re: #207 Bobblehead

Have you read "Anathem" yet?

No, this is the first Stephenson novel I have read (er, reading). My girlfriend recommended it, very good choice.

216 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:54:09am

re: #212 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"I KICK ASS FOR THE LORD!"

Ok, I have to take that out and watch it again. You just reminded me of that line.

217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:54:15am

Gosh. Leave it to a Stephen Hawking thread for a total Lizard "Geek-out"!

218 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:54:47am

re: #200 Lincolntf

I "discovered" that show last year in syndication. Watched every single episode (mostly via Hulu) over the next few weeks. Great comedy.

Carl Weathers, Tobias, and stew...I still crack up...

219 ConservatismNow!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:54:54am

re: #208 Walter L. Newton

I don't know, "Dead Alive" (aka: Brain Dead) by Peter Jackson is certainly up there in the funny zombie movie category.

Two words: Zombie Strippers.

220 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:55:05am

re: #217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gosh. Leave it to a Stephen Hawking thread for a total Lizard "Geek-out"!

I don't like Star Trek, I don't like Serenity, I don't like B-5, not a total geek here.

LOST lives!

221 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:55:39am

re: #208 Walter L. Newton

I don't know, "Dead Alive" (aka: Brain Dead) by Peter Jackson is certainly up there in the funny zombie movie category.

I'll have to check that out!

222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:55:58am

re: #220 Walter L. Newton

Certainly. Not "total".

223 Bobblehead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:56:38am

re: #215 Walter L. Newton

No, this is the first Stephenson novel I have read (er, reading). My girlfriend recommended it, very good choice.

Try" Anathem" next.

224 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:56:53am

re: #220 Walter L. Newton

I don't like Star Trek, I don't like Serenity, I don't like B-5, not a total geek here.

LOST lives!

"And that...is why you fail." - Master Yoda

/

225 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:57:04am

re: #213 Iron Fist

This is why there are no reasonable restrictions on firearms.

Can't say I agree with that broad a statement.

However, if they had a "tell us about your romatic life" questionnaire for renewal of a gun license, besides telling them "get stuffed", the other option would be to have tremendous fun with it:

"Following my stormy breakup with Adriana Lima, prompted by her discovery of some perfectly innocent text messages on my iPhone from Monica Bellucci..."

I'll be interested to see if something similar happens in DC

I've seen or heard of nothing untoward so far.

226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:57:14am

re: #220 Walter L. Newton

If you were a total geek, you couldn't get so many girlfriends. You must be one sexy old guy!
/

227 Kragar  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:57:16am

re: #216 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I have to take that out and watch it again. You just reminded me of that line.

Or the "Doctor" whose labcoat keeps slipping to show his nazi uniform.

"Ve dont schel schedatives here! Ve schel tranqvilischers."

228 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:57:55am

re: #220 Walter L. Newton

I don't like Star Trek,

So how long have you been an America-hating communist, Walter?

/

229 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:58:01am

re: #198 gmsc

Yep – they're doing the movies first, and during that process actual half-hour TV show episodes are in the works.

Do you have a link for that? It would be a dream come true but I'm skeptical.

230 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:58:08am

re: #227 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Or the "Doctor" whose labcoat keeps slipping to show his nazi uniform.

"Ve dont schel schedatives here! Ve schel tranqvilischers."

What does that mean? German speaking lizards?
////

231 LGoPs  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:58:12am

re: #181 Occasional Reader

OT: I don't know if this was posted earlier, but:

Mark Steyn on Canadian gun registry bureaucrats who want to know about your romantic life:

I thought it was the right who had exclusive rights on prying into the bedroom..../////
Just highlights my belief that to the left "The rules are whatever the fuck we decide them to be....whenever we feel like it"

232 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:58:13am

re: #220 Walter L. Newton

I don't like Star Trek, I don't like Serenity, I don't like B-5, not a total geek here.

LOST lives!

LOST lost me around episode 4 or 5. What was with the polar bear thing?

233 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:58:24am

re: #215 Walter L. Newton

No, this is the first Stephenson novel I have read (er, reading). My girlfriend recommended it, very good choice.

Your girlfriend has good taste. :D

234 Kragar  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:59:19am

Just started the Wheel of Time series with my kids. They love it so far.

235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:59:27am

Watching Jurassic Park. What a quotable movie.

236 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:59:37am

re: #232 KenJen

LOST lost me around episode 4 or 5. What was with the polar bear thing?

Global warming?

237 ConservatismNow!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:59:49am

I'm bored by most Sci-Fi. Krod Mandoon and the Flaming Sword of Fire is where it's at!

238 LGoPs  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:59:53am

re: #220 Walter L. Newton

I don't like Star Trek, I don't like Serenity, I don't like B-5, not a total geek here.

LOST lives!

Does JamesTKirk know that.....?

239 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:59:53am

re: #227 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Or the "Doctor" whose labcoat keeps slipping to show his nazi uniform.

"Ve dont schel schedatives here! Ve schel tranqvilischers."

Jackson made that movie on a penny and a prayer. Well, he made all his early movies on barely no budget, which just goes to show good movies can be made for the sake of the art, not the business.

Try Jackson's "Bad Taste" and "Meet the Feebles."

240 kynna  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:00:06pm

re: #195 Golem Akbar

I'm a big Zombie-flick fan as well. Shawn of the Dead is just about the ultimate/last word in the genre. Funniest and most clever in a very smart and clever genre of film, imho. [I love Dawn of the Dead 2004, btw]

Love this movie. Brilliant.

241 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:00:26pm

re: #238 LGoPs

Does JamesTKirk know that.....?

He hasn't posted in a while. What happened to him?

242 Kragar  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:00:29pm

re: #232 KenJen

LOST lost me around episode 4 or 5. What was with the polar bear thing?

There is a perfectly reasonable answer as to why polar bears are on the island.

243 ConservatismNow!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:00:45pm

re: #235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Watching Jurassic Park. What a quotable movie.

An even better book!

244 Bobblehead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:00:50pm

re: #233 Catttt

Your girlfriend has good taste. :D

Have you read "Anathem"? I'd like to find someone who has. Very interesting book.

245 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:00:54pm

I luv scary movies. Anyone seen Wrong Turn?

246 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:01:19pm

re: #235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Watching Jurassic Park. What a quotable movie.

I would be pleased to be considered the next future former Mrs. Malcolm.

247 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:01:23pm

re: #241 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He hasn't posted in a while. What happened to him?

Perished in a fight with Roddy McDowell. Sad, really.

248 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:01:32pm

re: #244 Bobblehead

Have you read "Anathem"? I'd like to find someone who has. Very interesting book.

Bought it but have not started it. Seemed to be similar to Canticle for Leibowitz.

249 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:01:38pm

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There is a perfectly reasonable answer as to why polar bears are on the island.

continue.

250 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:01:41pm

Levi Johnston's eHarmony Profile

[Link: rightwingvideo.com...]

251 Kragar  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:01:47pm

re: #239 Walter L. Newton

Jackson made that movie on a penny and a prayer. Well, he made all his early movies on barely no budget, which just goes to show good movies can be made for the sake of the art, not the business.

Try Jackson's "Bad Taste" and "Meet the Feebles."

"Send in the Boys. The Bastards have landed."

/humming the Sodomy song

252 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:01:47pm

re: #235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Watching Jurassic Park. What a quotable movie.

I'm fairly alarmed here.
Faster. Must go faster.

253 turn  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:01:58pm

re: #245 KenJen

I luv scary movies. Anyone seen Wrong Turn?

The made a movie about me? wow, my screw ups are legendary.

254 Dianna  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:02:01pm

re: #193 Catttt

That's on my list of shows to watch. I need to obtain it en toto. Many have recommended it to me.

TrueBlood is good - first season available soon on DVD.

Warning - it is HBO - there is sex. Yes there is. And gorgeous vampires.

Have you read Charlaine Harris' books? I really like Sookie.

255 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:02:16pm

re: #245 KenJen

I luv scary movies. Anyone seen Wrong Turn?

I'm currently (since this past Jan. 20) living in an even scarier movie, called Left Turn.

256 Jack Burton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:02:17pm

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There is a perfectly reasonable answer as to why polar bears are on the island.

Gorebull Warming?

257 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:02:31pm

re: #220 Walter L. Newton

I don't like Star Trek, I don't like Serenity, I don't like B-5, not a total geek here.

LOST lives!

Do you like Stargate SG:1 or Atlantis? Farscape?

And how could you not like B-5? I can understand not liking B-1 through B-4, especially B4 ... /

258 ConservatismNow!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:02:48pm

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There is a perfectly reasonable answer as to why polar bears are on the island.

A wizard did it.

259 Kragar  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:02:49pm

re: #249 KenJen

continue.

I dont know, they haven't told the rest of us yet.

260 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:03:19pm

re: #244 Bobblehead

Have you read "Anathem"? I'd like to find someone who has. Very interesting book.

No, I haven't. I got bogged down in his Baroque trilogy and so am way behind now.

261 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:03:20pm

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There is a perfectly reasonable answer as to why polar bears are on the island.

They were bussed in.

262 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:03:33pm

re: #245 KenJen

I luv scary movies. Anyone seen Wrong Turn?

That movie sucked.

263 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:04:32pm

re: #245 KenJen

I luv scary movies. Anyone seen Wrong Turn?

I may just have to check it out. Meow.

264 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:04:35pm

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I dont know, they haven't told the rest of us yet.

Maybe it is a LLL who survived the crash. He was on his way to a global warming protest. It's the suit he was going to wear.

265 subsailor68  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:04:36pm

re: #245 KenJen

I luv scary movies. Anyone seen Wrong Turn?

Haven't seen that one, but I'll give it a look.

Hate to show my age here, but one of my all-time favorites is "Wait Until Dark" with Audrey Hepburn and Richard Crenna. When I first saw it in the theater, they'd kill every light at the critical part of the film. When the cool scene happened, the guy in the seat behind my girl friend grabbed her hair (by mistake) as he jumped. Scared the living crap out of her....and me.

:-)

266 brookly red  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:04:36pm

Way OT, I just heard on the radio that the Four Corners Marker turns out to be in the wrong place...

267 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:04:36pm

Twilight!

268 Bobblehead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:04:57pm

re: #248 Creeping Eruption

Bought it but have not started it. Seemed to be similar to Canticle for Leibowitz.

It takes some concentration to begin with. He's created a world on another planet vaguely similar to our own but that took a different path vis a vis science and higher learning. Fascinating stuff.

269 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:05:00pm

re: #263 Occasional Reader

I may just have to check it out. Meow.

She dies.

270 kynna  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:05:03pm

re: #254 Dianna

Have you read Charlaine Harris' books? I really like Sookie.

I saw a little of True Blood and didn't like it. It turned me off the books. I'm not much of a good guy vampire fan (I'm assuming some of them are good -- like Twilight?). I prefer them being the villains and being defeated. :D

Have you read The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher? Three different types of vamps and all of them evil. Yah!

271 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:05:12pm

re: #232 KenJen

LOST lost me around episode 4 or 5. What was with the polar bear thing?

The Island (which seems to contain a hunk of exotic matter, ego, mysterious powers) was being used back in the 70's-80's by a group of scientist to study certain global conditions that could lead to the end of the world. One aspect of the studies was trying to relocate certain animals into climates foreign to their natural habitat, ego, polars bears on a tropical Island.

The Island also does not exist in the same "time line" as the rest of the world, and even being near it can cause you to "skip" into other "time lines" as we have seen this season.

A bit complicated, as the show is into it's fifth year, and one more year to go (yes, the basic plot and length of the series was worked out prior to it's first season, a first for a TV series).

272 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:05:14pm

OT
Bathroom emergency on flight prompts felony charge

ATLANTA - A man who says he desperately needed to use an airplane bathroom after eating something bad in Honduras faces a federal charge after being accused of twisting a flight attendant's arm to get to the lavatory, the FBI said Wednesday.

Joao Correa, 43, told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution he had a bathroom emergency 30 minutes into a March 28 Delta Air Lines flight from Honduras to Atlanta, but found the single coach aisle on the Boeing 737 blocked by a beverage cart. He said he asked if he could use the lavatory in business class, but was told no...

Delta - the NAZI airline at it again. Every couple a months a similar story like this hits the news and it's always Delta. Never another airline, always delta... Delta management has sent down orders that flight attendants need take no guff from passengers. But, these overworked, underpaid attendants take it to the extreme by wielding power over customers unnecessarily.
Here's a perfect example - they wouldn't let the poor guy use the bathroom in an emergency. Pigs!

273 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:05:28pm

re: #220 Walter L. Newton

I don't like Star Trek, I don't like Serenity, I don't like B-5, not a total geek here.

LOST lives!

I was looking through my DVDs a few days ago and found Season 1 of Lost. Didn't even know I had it. Must have gotten it as a gift or something.

274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:05:35pm

Dr. Ian Malcolm: God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs...
Dr. Ellie Sattler: Dinosaurs eat man. Woman inherits the earth...

Dr. Ian Malcolm: God help us; we're in the hands of engineers.

275 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:05:42pm

re: #239 Walter L. Newton

Try Jackson's "Bad Taste" and "Meet the Feebles."

I have introduced many a friend (much to their chagrin) to "Meet the Feebles", and still to this day can't hear the name of the movie without thinking two words. "Muppet Porn".

276 saberry0530  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:05:48pm

re: #266 brookly red

Way OT, I just heard on the radio that the Four Corners Marker turns out to be in the wrong place...

FUCK! Now I have to go and stand in the correct place.
Fed Gov = lying Bastards!

277 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:06:27pm

re: #257 lawhawk

Do you like Stargate SG:1 or Atlantis? Farscape?

And how could you not like B-5? I can understand not liking B-1 through B-4, especially B4 ... /

No. And yes, I have seen enough of them all to have my opinion. Just don't care for them.

LOST lives.

278 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:06:44pm

re: #232 KenJen

LOST lost me around episode 4 or 5. What was with the polar bear thing?

They're resolving that issue this season as a matter of fact. I stopped watching for a couple of seasons, but got back into it this season as they started resolving all the craziness that they introduced. The show is much better now that they're starting to answer the issues raised in Season 1 and the reasoning why people are behaving the way they do.

279 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:06:50pm

re: #269 KenJen

She dies.

DAMN THOSE RIGHT-WING MUTANT HILLBILLIES!

280 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:06:51pm

re: #268 Bobblehead

It takes some concentration to begin with. He's created a world on another planet vaguely similar to our own but that took a different path vis a vis science and higher learning. Fascinating stuff.

Hmmmm . . .I'll give it a whirl again. Just wrapped up Vinge's A Deepness in the Sky.

281 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:07:02pm

re: #265 subsailor68

Haven't seen that one, but I'll give it a look.

Hate to show my age here, but one of my all-time favorites is "Wait Until Dark" with Audrey Hepburn and Richard Crenna. When I first saw it in the theater, they'd kill every light at the critical part of the film. When the cool scene happened, the guy in the seat behind my girl friend grabbed her hair (by mistake) as he jumped. Scared the living crap out of her....and me.

:-)

Waiting for the sequel to Snakes On A Plane...Snakes On A Sub...:)

282 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:07:02pm

re: #269 KenJen

She dies.

Don't we all.

283 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:07:03pm

more clarity from the great VDH ...

[Link: victorhanson.com...]

284 Bobblehead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:07:23pm

re: #270 kynna

I saw a little of True Blood and didn't like it. It turned me off the books. I'm not much of a good guy vampire fan (I'm assuming some of them are good -- like Twilight?). I prefer them being the villains and being defeated. :D

Have you read The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher? Three different types of vamps and all of them evil. Yah!

Pay no mind to the series. It has nothing to do with the books! I quit watching the series after about 4 episodes. It ruined the story. Read the books. They are great.

285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:07:34pm

re: #281 Dustyvet

Snakes On A Sub...:)

That at Quizno's?

286 transient  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:07:51pm

Ban Ki-moon's statement on Ahmadinejad's speech:

"I deplore the use of this platform by the Iranian president to accuse, divide and even incite. This is the opposite of what this Conference seeks to achieve. This makes it significantly more difficult to build constructive solutions to the very real problem of racism," the statement read.

"It is deeply regrettable that my plea to look to the future of unity was not heeded by the Iranian president...."


For a UN dip, this is positively vitriolic!

287 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:07:52pm

re: #272 unrealizedviewpoint

OT
Bathroom emergency on flight prompts felony charge

Delta - the NAZI airline at it again. Every couple a months a similar story like this hits the news and it's always Delta. Never another airline, always delta... Delta management has sent down orders that flight attendants need take no guff from passengers. But, these overworked, underpaid attendants take it to the extreme by wielding power over customers unnecessarily.
Here's a perfect example - they wouldn't let the poor guy use the bathroom in an emergency. Pigs!

He should have taken a crap on her jump seat!

288 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:08:18pm

re: #253 turn

You're thinking of "Wide Turn"/////////

289 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:08:18pm

re: #254 Dianna

Have you read Charlaine Harris' books? I really like Sookie.

Yes - I just reread them all - new book out next month! :D

290 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:08:38pm

re: #273 CyanSnowHawk

I was looking through my DVDs a few days ago and found Season 1 of Lost. Didn't even know I had it. Must have gotten it as a gift or something.

Gee, so nice to have a 3 year old gift and not even know it.

291 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:08:58pm

re: #287 Creeping Eruption

He should have taken a crap on her jump seat!

I wonder what that charge would have been?
Really though, what choice did they leave the poor man?

292 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:09:05pm
293 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:09:10pm

re: #266 brookly red

How far off? Are we talking like in Texas, here?

294 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:09:15pm

re: #284 Bobblehead

Pay no mind to the series. It has nothing to do with the books! I quit watching the series after about 4 episodes. It ruined the story. Read the books. They are great.

I like both. I especially like the very tall, hunky blonde Viking vampire. :D

295 subsailor68  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:09:28pm

re: #281 Dustyvet

Waiting for the sequel to Snakes On A Plane...Snakes On A Sub...:)

LOL! 'I hate mother......snakes!'

"Good grief Cap'n, there's a nest in the periscope well!....Cap'n? Ah crap. Quick! Down scope!"

296 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:09:41pm

re: #291 unrealizedviewpoint

I wonder what that charge would have been?
Really though, what choice did they leave the poor man?

I know. You didn't see a sarc tag on my comment.

297 Bobblehead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:10:04pm

re: #289 Catttt

Yes - I just reread them all - new book out next month! :D

Are you on team Eric or team Bill?

298 turn  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:10:27pm

re: #288 calcajun

You're thinking of "Wide Turn"/////////

hehe. OT just opened my 401k statement for the quarter, personalized rate of return -9.73%. oh great

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:10:33pm
300 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:10:50pm

re: #271 Walter L. Newton

The Island (which seems to contain a hunk of exotic matter, ego, mysterious powers) was being used back in the 70's-80's by a group of scientist to study certain global conditions that could lead to the end of the world. One aspect of the studies was trying to relocate certain animals into climates foreign to their natural habitat, ego, polars bears on a tropical Island.

The Island also does not exist in the same "time line" as the rest of the world, and even being near it can cause you to "skip" into other "time lines" as we have seen this season.

A bit complicated, as the show is into it's fifth year, and one more year to go (yes, the basic plot and length of the series was worked out prior to it's first season, a first for a TV series).

J. Michael Straczynski did that with Babylon 5 in the 90s. 5 years with a defined story arc. It's an unusual way to make a series, but nothing is new in Hollywood.

301 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:11:14pm

re: #265 subsailor68

Haven't seen that one, but I'll give it a look.

Hate to show my age here, but one of my all-time favorites is "Wait Until Dark" with Audrey Hepburn and Richard Crenna. When I first saw it in the theater, they'd kill every light at the critical part of the film. When the cool scene happened, the guy in the seat behind my girl friend grabbed her hair (by mistake) as he jumped. Scared the living crap out of her....and me.

:-)


"Well, Susy, it's all over. Now all the children have gone to bed, and we can talk."

-Alan Arkin, being awesomely creepy

302 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:11:25pm

re: #281 Dustyvet

Waiting for the sequel to Snakes On A Plane...Snakes On A Sub...:)

Already been done. Fer de Lance.

see: [Link: www.imdb.com...]

303 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:11:34pm

re: #278 lawhawk

They're resolving that issue this season as a matter of fact. I stopped watching for a couple of seasons, but got back into it this season as they started resolving all the craziness that they introduced. The show is much better now that they're starting to answer the issues raised in Season 1 and the reasoning why people are behaving the way they do.

I did't know you were a LOST fan. The producers have been saying for years that they are basically not making this up as they go along (as a lot of serial styled shows do) and this season they are certainly blowing their critics out of the water proving that.

The show has been called the most well written and clever show ever to hit TV. They certainly have used a plethora of storytelling techniques, even at the risk of alienating some viewers.

304 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:11:58pm

re: #294 Catttt

I like both. I especially like the very tall, hunky blonde Viking vampire. :D

Image: viking-vampire-wallpaper.jpg

305 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:12:10pm

re: #298 turn

Mine sounds like Margaret Hamilton after a shower, "I'm melting!"

306 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:12:39pm

re: #245 KenJen

I luv scary movies. Anyone seen Wrong Turn?

I used to live in West Virginia. Apparently, this wasn't a documentary.

307 brookly red  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:12:52pm

re: #293 calcajun

How far off? Are we talking like in Texas, here?

it is 2+ miles too far east I think...
(/bet some politico recently bought the "correct" location for a dollar)

308 ConservatismNow!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:13:38pm

re: #295 subsailor68

LOL! 'I hate mother......snakes!'

"Good grief Cap'n, there's a nest in the periscope well!....Cap'n? Ah crap. Quick! Down scope!"

What's scarier than Snakes on a Sub? ZOMBIE Snakes on a Sub! Thanks for the Nightmare Fuel, guys. Really.

309 Lincolntf  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:13:40pm

re: #299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I like it, too, but I think it has a typo near the bottom "...corrosive glass"...?

310 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:13:48pm

re: #296 Creeping Eruption

I know. You didn't see a sarc tag on my comment.

I hope some enterprising high traffic blogger slams Delta big time. Management needs a message sent to them. Call off the dogs. These are your customers.

311 Dianna  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:14:18pm

re: #270 kynna

I saw a little of True Blood and didn't like it. It turned me off the books. I'm not much of a good guy vampire fan (I'm assuming some of them are good -- like Twilight?). I prefer them being the villains and being defeated. :D

Have you read The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher? Three different types of vamps and all of them evil. Yah!

I am a huge fan of Jim Butcher's. I'll even read his Codex Alera to make sure he can afford to keep writing.

312 Bobblehead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:14:19pm

re: #304 Catttt

[Link: suckerforvampires.files.wordpress.com...]

I guess you are on team Eric.

313 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:14:21pm

re: #306 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I used to live in West Virginia. Apparently, this wasn't a documentary.

"It's all relative in West Virginia"

-actual T-shirt

314 Eowyn2  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:14:27pm

re: #298 turn

hehe. OT just opened my 401k statement for the quarter, personalized rate of return -9.73%. oh great


sounds familiar

315 turn  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:14:33pm

re: #305 calcajun

Mine sounds like Margaret Hamilton after a shower, "I'm melting!"

oh, the wicked witch of the west (thank god for search engines)

316 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:14:41pm

re: #301 Occasional Reader

"Well, Susy, it's all over. Now all the children have gone to bed, and we can talk."

-Alan Arkin, being awesomely creepy

Saw that in college. On our way home, a friend, as a joke, sneaked up on us and grabbed one of my friend's ankles. Talk about your scream fest. :D

317 subsailor68  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:15:02pm

re: #301 Occasional Reader

"Well, Susy, it's all over. Now all the children have gone to bed, and we can talk."

-Alan Arkin, being awesomely creepy

Oh thanks! It took me about 40 years to get that out of my head, and you come along. Where's my nightlight? It's gotta be here somewhere!

;-)

318 Bobblehead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:15:06pm

re: #314 Eowyn2

sounds familiar

Oh, tell me about it.

319 avanti  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:15:07pm

OK, I'll admit it looks like Simon is setting up a battle with Susan Boyle and this new kid. This video is just too pat for me with Simon's interruption and song change.

320 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:15:22pm

re: #309 Lincolntf

Well, aren't we observant? Guess it doesn't really matter in the over-all scheme of things.

Heh.

321 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:15:22pm

re: #310 unrealizedviewpoint

I hope some enterprising high traffic blogger slams Delta big time. Management needs a message sent to them. Call off the dogs. These are your customers.

Also, Delta has among the oldest fleets of any of the major US carriers. Their planes' interiors typically look down at the heels, and get one thinking about exciting concepts like "metal fatigue".

322 Dianna  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:15:39pm

re: #294 Catttt

I like both. I especially like the very tall, hunky blonde Viking vampire. :D

Eric is blond, not blonde!

Very definitely male!

*sigh*

No, he's not a good guy. No one who enjoys mayhem that much can possibly be a good guy. But I really like him!

323 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:15:53pm

re: #266 brookly red

Way OT, I just heard on the radio that the Four Corners Marker turns out to be in the wrong place...

All those photos up to now should be remitted to [Link: www.failblog.org...] .

Four State Fail

or something...

324 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:16:09pm
325 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:16:17pm

re: #300 CyanSnowHawk

J. Michael Straczynski did that with Babylon 5 in the 90s. 5 years with a defined story arc. It's an unusual way to make a series, but nothing is new in Hollywood.

Really, from what I read in the "pop" press, the blogs and fans of stuff like B5, fans have said the show jumped the shark and blew the viewers off in the final season, lost all internal consistency and just wrote themselves right off the story line.

And really, I don't know, but this is what I have seen from ex-fans.

Hollywood is so much hype anyway. LOST crowed a lot about being the first to get such a deal and have such a stable story board, but who really know.

This much I know, they have stayed basically true to the story and for the most part, the internal consistency has reminded (although they are rushing it a bit this season (which I have written about on a Doc Arzt's blog).

326 Dianna  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:16:34pm

re: #312 Bobblehead

I guess you are on team Eric.

What's not to like? He's intelligent, good-looking, wildly competent, and loves a good free-for-all.

327 Bobblehead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:16:57pm

re: #322 Dianna

Eric is blond, not blonde!

Very definitely male!

*sigh*

No, he's not a good guy. No one who enjoys mayhem that much can possibly be a good guy. But I really like him!

My favorite. I think we are supposed to get more of his back story in the next book. If so, can't wait.

328 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:17:03pm

re: #286 transient

He was much more upset about the US and others walking out than he was of Ahmadinejad getting the keynote address in the first place. Priorities.

Let's just get the guy who calls for Israel's destruction to speechify and demonize Israel all while ignoring Iran's heinous record on human rights.

329 Orangutan  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:17:03pm

I hope he pulls through - for him and his family.

330 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:17:16pm

re: #323 Oh no...Sand People!

All those photos up to now should be remitted to [Link: www.failblog.org...] .

Four State Fail

or something...

I love Failblog. My daughter sent me a picture she took in Italy that she's going to submit. It's a newsstand display of pr0n mags (Penthouse and the like, nothing bizarre), under a sign for The Economist. She's going to call in Intellectual Publication Fail.

331 turn  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:17:24pm

re: #314 Eowyn2

sounds familiar

I was thinking about you this weekend, I watched a bit of the two towers again. I was thinking about starting an open thread with "Arwen or Eowyn? discuss"

332 KenJen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:17:27pm

re: #306 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I used to live in West Virginia. Apparently, this wasn't a documentary.


I live in Kentucky. I swear my neighbor is the skinny hillbilly mutant. Looks identical. He even drives an old scary truck.

333 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:17:53pm

re: #321 Occasional Reader

Also, Delta has among the oldest fleets of any of the major US carriers. Their planes' interiors typically look down at the heels, and get one thinking about exciting concepts like "metal fatigue".

That's how I felt after Warrant released their debut album. Enough of the hair bands already!

334 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:18:02pm

re: #266 brookly red

Way OT, I just heard on the radio that the Four Corners Marker turns out to be in the wrong place...

It's all on the Navajo Reservation anyway. Kinda changes the meaning of it, I think.

335 Dianna  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:18:30pm

re: #327 Bobblehead

My favorite. I think we are supposed to get more of his back story in the next book. If so, can't wait.

I'm salivating.

336 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:18:30pm

The United States called Monday on Iran to end its "horrible rhetoric" after President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's attacks on Israel but said it still wanted talks with Tehran to mend relations.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Or we'll hold out breath?

337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:19:00pm

re: #322 Dianna

The spelling blonde is still widely used for the noun that specifies a woman or girl with fair hair: The blonde with the baby in her arms is my anthropology professor. Some people object to this as an unnecessary distinction, preferring blond for all persons: My sister is thinking of becoming a blond for a while. As an adjective, the word is more usually spelled blond in reference to either sex (an energetic blond girl; two blond sons), although the form blonde is occasionally still used of a female: the blonde model and her escort. The spelling blond is almost always used for the adjective describing hair, complexion, etc.: His daughter has blond hair and hazel eyes.


I did not know that. You just made me go look it up. Good on you. More brain spinach!

338 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:19:02pm

re: #319 avanti

OK, I'll admit it looks like Simon is setting up a battle with Susan Boyle and this new kid. This video is just too pat for me with Simon's interruption and song change.

Oh poop, I agree with you. Being on the fringe of the entertainment business for 40 years, I can assure you (and agree with Avanti) that that did not just happen on the "spur" of the moment. It's not like saying "hey, pull out another record and put it on the turntable."

I suspect the WHOLE thing was a set up, from Susan on...

339 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:19:14pm

re: #330 doppelganglander

I love Failblog. My daughter sent me a picture she took in Italy that she's going to submit. It's a newsstand display of pr0n mags (Penthouse and the like, nothing bizarre), under a sign for The Economist. She's going to call in Intellectual Publication Fail.

I have been laughing for the past 3 days on that one...

Uppercut Fail...so funny.
Parenting Fail...so funny.

So much fail...so much entertainment...

340 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:19:16pm

re: #323 Oh no...Sand People!
Let's SUE!

I've a picture my parents took there......
I was 15 months old!
Oh the memories that are now dust!
////////

341 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:19:24pm

re: #332 KenJen

I live in Kentucky. I swear my neighbor is the skinny hillbilly mutant. Looks identical. He even drives an old scary truck.

The fattest man in West Virginia was a proud patron of our "local" McDonald's - I say "local" because the nearest one was a good 40 minute drive away.

342 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:19:34pm

re: #328 lawhawk

He was much more upset about the US and others walking out than he was of Ahmadinejad getting the keynote address in the first place. Priorities.

Let's just get the guy who calls for Israel's destruction to speechify and demonize Israel all while ignoring Iran's heinous record on human rights.

Are you taking about The UN head Mr. Howling At-Moon?

343 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:19:57pm

re: #322 Dianna

Eric is blond, not blonde!

Very definitely male!

*sigh*

No, he's not a good guy. No one who enjoys mayhem that much can possibly be a good guy. But I really like him!

Who cares if he's not a good guy! :D

I used to do the blond/blonde thing, but it has changed in my universe. The feminine version is now the version. Time marches on. It does too!:D

344 Clio  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:20:16pm

My mother was acquainted with Stephen Hawking's mother.

She -- that is, Mrs. Hawking -- told her that when he developed his disorder as a schoolboy the doctors advised her not to burden him with going to school, because he would not live long enough to make use of an education anyway.

345 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:20:23pm

re: #233 Catttt

Your girlfriend has good taste. :D

She has very good taste in books and popular culture, although we don't agree on everything.

346 Bobblehead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:20:33pm

re: #326 Dianna

What's not to like? He's intelligent, good-looking, wildly competent, and loves a good free-for-all.

I liked the line in one of the books..something about taking the man out of the Viking era but that you can't take the Viking out of the man.

347 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:20:55pm

Totally OT, but my patriotism won't let me rest:
Colony of rare red squirrels discovered in remote Welsh forest

Awww .... and they're genetically unique - with a Welsh Red Squirrel Gene, for Pure Welsh Red Squirrels!

348 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:21:03pm

re: #335 Dianna

I'm salivating.

And God bless Charlaine. She seems to know what we want.

349 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:21:04pm

re: #321 Occasional Reader

Also, Delta has among the oldest fleets of any of the major US carriers. Their planes' interiors typically look down at the heels, and get one thinking about exciting concepts like "metal fatigue".

"Metal fatigue" oh good, nice pleasant Delta subject. Maybe we can carry this into the next open thread. Anyone got Delta complaints?

350 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:21:35pm

re: #339 Oh no...Sand People!

I have been laughing for the past 3 days on that one...

Uppercut Fail...so funny.
Parenting Fail...so funny.

So much fail...so much entertainment...

One of my favorites was "Family Photo FAIL" - I was a group shot of a family in the living room, around Thanksgiving, and you can see the crazy uncle on the toilet in the bathroom waving "hi" as well.

351 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:21:55pm

re: #347 yma o hyd

Totally OT, but my patriotism won't let me rest:
Colony of rare red squirrels discovered in remote Welsh forest

Awww .... and they're genetically unique - with a Welsh Red Squirrel Gene, for Pure Welsh Red Squirrels!

Don't let Huckabee near them.

352 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:22:05pm
353 Bobblehead  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:22:22pm

re: #348 Catttt

And God bless Charlaine. She seems to know what we want.

More Eric.

354 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:23:03pm

re: #347 yma o hyd

Totally OT, but my patriotism won't let me rest:
Colony of rare red squirrels discovered in remote Welsh forest

Awww .... and they're genetically unique - with a Welsh Red Squirrel Gene, for Pure Welsh Red Squirrels!


That's great, but really hard to pronounce.

355 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:23:15pm

re: #350 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

One of my favorites was "Family Photo FAIL" - I was a group shot of a family in the living room, around Thanksgiving, and you can see the crazy uncle on the toilet in the bathroom waving "hi" as well.

Oh MAN! I gotta find that one...

I loved 'quartet fail'. Five singers on the album cover...

356 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:23:52pm

re: #347 yma o hyd

Totally OT, but my patriotism won't let me rest:
Colony of rare red squirrels discovered in remote Welsh forest

Awww .... and they're genetically unique - with a Welsh Red Squirrel Gene, for Pure Welsh Red Squirrels!

I sense Nazi's involved somehow...
///

357 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:24:00pm

re: #353 Bobblehead

More Eric.

I would also like to thank Alexander Skarsgard for being gorgeous, six foot five, blonde (blond!), multilingual, and an actor.

358 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:24:40pm

re: #325 Walter L. Newton

Really, from what I read in the "pop" press, the blogs and fans of stuff like B5, fans have said the show jumped the shark and blew the viewers off in the final season, lost all internal consistency and just wrote themselves right off the story line.

And really, I don't know, but this is what I have seen from ex-fans.

Hollywood is so much hype anyway. LOST crowed a lot about being the first to get such a deal and have such a stable story board, but who really know.

This much I know, they have stayed basically true to the story and for the most part, the internal consistency has reminded (although they are rushing it a bit this season (which I have written about on a Doc Arzt's blog).

B5 suffered from having to renew every season. Season 5 was in doubt until the end of Season 4 and it caused changes to how the story arc could play out. It was mostly complete by the end of 4 and the finale was in the can, as a result, 5 felt a little superfluous. That's most of what disrupted the final couple seasons.

If Lost was sold as a complete series like that, it would be unprecedented.

359 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:24:43pm

re: #354 doppelganglander

That's great, but really hard to pronounce.

Its even harder to get there - no wonder they survived!

360 avanti  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:25:29pm

re: #338 Walter L. Newton

Oh poop, I agree with you. Being on the fringe of the entertainment business for 40 years, I can assure you (and agree with Avanti) .

OK, stop the earth, I need to step off for a moment. :)

361 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:27:21pm

re: #347 yma o hyd

Awww .... and they're genetically unique - with a Welsh Red Squirrel Gene, for Pure Welsh Red Squirrels!

Welsh Red Squirrel--it's what's for dinner!

362 revobob  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:28:49pm

re: #360 avanti

OK, stop the earth, I need to step off for a moment. :)

See- what I said last night!

363 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:29:19pm

re: #338 Walter L. Newton

I agree with you.... (and agree with Avanti)

OK--that's it. The world is gonna end now.

364 revobob  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:29:27pm

re: #361 calcajun

Welsh Red Squirrel--it's what's for dinner!


Change of pace from the Welsh Rabbit!

365 calcajun  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:30:04pm

re: #364 revobob

Just add cheese...or Squirrel Helper.

366 kynna  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:30:54pm

re: #311 Dianna

I am a huge fan of Jim Butcher's. I'll even read his Codex Alera to make sure he can afford to keep writing.

I actually really like Codex Alera, although it's definitely not as good as TDF. The last one Princeps Fury was ... not good, IMO. Cursor's Fury is my favorite so far.

Have you read the latest Dresden? I really loved it. Much better than Small Favor.

367 debutaunt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:32:03pm

re: #290 Walter L. Newton

Gee, so nice to have a 3 year old gift and not even know it.

A drunken re-gifting party may have been involved.

368 debutaunt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:35:11pm

re: #301 Occasional Reader

"Well, Susy, it's all over. Now all the children have gone to bed, and we can talk."

-Alan Arkin, being awesomely creepy

Arkin being hilarious - "Emergency - emergency - pliz to clear the strits."

369 Catttt  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:46:52pm

re: #312 Bobblehead

I guess you are on team Eric.

Yes, I am, but I surely would not turn Bill away from the door. :D

370 JamesTKirk  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:49:45pm

re: #241 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He hasn't posted in a while. What happened to him?

I'm in the next thread.

BTW, Data doesn't stay dead, since he transferred his memories to the B9 android (or whatever the one in "Nemesis" was called). Data shows up in the post-TNG comic books which are currently being released as part of the lead-up to the new Star Trek movie.

371 notutopia  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:56:06pm

Oh Noes. May Hawking recover from this pulmonary issue completely.

372 scrubjay  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 12:59:29pm

I respect a man who has continued to achieve despite adversity. I see perfectly healthy people living as street bums who have everything but have given up on trying and I have nothing but disgust for them.

373 hellosnackbar  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 1:16:47pm

re#all,

Thanks very much lizards for your messages of goodwill to my august countryman.

Stephen Hawking is to my mind the"sine qua non" for triumph in the face of extreme adversity and faces death for the umpteenth time.
About 25 years ago he had one of his many bouts of pneumonia and was
taken to Addenbrooke's
A tired and somewhat apathetic senior house officer said to Stephen's
companion :
"Just look at him,just let him die"
The companion(a German physicist)said"If he dies then your career dies with him."
"Now!
get up, and do your best!"
Hopefully, this is just another episode ,that the amazing Stephen will survive.
He was offered a Knighthood, but turned it down.

374 Right Brain  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 1:25:32pm

The loss will be felt in all ten dimensions if he leaves us.

375 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 2:07:59pm

"Famed mathematician"? I thought he was a cosmologist.

376 irving  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 5:17:36pm

I certainly hope he recovers; he deserves the best. But he's already lived far, far longer with his disease than the odds dictate. If he finally leaves us, he's already beaten his disease simply by virtue of his longevity, let alone his accomplishments.

Anyone remember Carl Sagan's Starship of the Imagination, way back in the days of Cosmos? Hawking deserves one of those in the next life/Rapture/afterlife of choice. He'd take it places Sagan could never have dreamed of...

377 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 7:20:31pm

I wish Dr. Hawking well - genius is always better with us than removed from the mortal plain. Sorry about that G-d. At this point of human history, we need him more than you. When the appropriate time comes, I shall answer for this comment.

-S-

378 CEQAttorney  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 7:25:06pm

It's sad that one of the smartest men on the planet is so ill and the dumbest people on the planet can spread hate in Durban.

379 Bob Dillon  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 7:31:49pm

re: #375 The Sanity Inspector

"Famed mathematician"? I thought he was a cosmologist.

That as well and the world's leading theoretical physicist.

380 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Apr 20, 2009 11:01:56pm

Hang in their brother.
You have been an inspiration to many people.


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