Reports from the Durban II Fiasco

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Roger L. Simon is in Geneva, and has a report from the absolutely disgusting Durban II “anti-racism conference,” at which Mahmoud Ahmadinejad gave the keynote speech: Durban II Diary - Part 3: The Clowning of Ahmadinejad. (Video here.)

Lawhawk points us at this video, showing Ahmadinejad’s entourage screaming at Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel, calling him a “Zio-Nazi.”

Youtube Video

It’s beyond sickening what the United Nations has allowed to occur here; it’s sheer evil.

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264 comments
1 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:18:09am

The U.N. has long been worse than useless in every area that matters. They should be disbanded or ignored.

2 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:18:14am

The UN has not had a clue since 1949, so this is a surprise to anyone?

3 bikergrl  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:18:27am

Do we need to be in the UN? Can’t we quit?

4 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:18:32am

It’s beyond sickening what the United Nations has allowed to occur here; it’s sheer evil.

I’d say it’s par for the course for the UN!

5 Viking6  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:19:07am

The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it.
Ayn Rand (1905 - 1982), Atlas Shrugged, 1957

6 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:19:32am

17:30 Durban II delegates adopt meeting`s anti-racism declaration by consensus (Reuters)

That is why no western nation should have gone!

7 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:19:34am

I think it’s time to disband the United Nations and start over… problem is we’d probably end up with something even worse.

8 jcm  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:19:39am
9 dahveed  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:19:42am

All in a day’s work at the UN.

10 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:19:59am

re: #7 MrSilverDragon

I think it’s time to disband the United Nations and start over… problem is we’d probably end up with something even worse.

Not if I ran the show?

11 JohnnyReb  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:20:20am

I mean honestly, why don’t we just turn the UN over to the Muslims and be done with it? It would save a whole lot of time and effort on our part.

12 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:20:37am

“I believe in the United Nations.”

-Barack Obama, April 19, 2009, Port of Spain, Trinidad

13 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:21:06am

re: #12 Occasional Reader

“I believe in the United Nations.”

-Barack Obama, April 19, 2009, Port of Spain, Trinidad

I believe, too. I believe it’s a fallacy.

14 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:21:08am

re: #11 JohnnyReb

I mean honestly, why don’t we just turn the UN over to the Muslims and be done with it? It would save a whole lot of time and effort on our part.

Well other than the Security Council we already have.

15 StillAMarine  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:21:18am

When, oh, when, are we going to kick that racist, useless, pack of poltroons that calls itself the United Nations out of our country?
Oh, I forgot. That putz and his henchthings now in the White House actually look up to the UN.

16 Viking6  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:21:28am

re: #12 Occasional Reader

“I do not believe in the United Nations.”States

-Barack Obama, April 19, 2009, Port of Spain, Trinidad

FIFY

17 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:22:27am

I would give a years salary to the Anti Defamation league if there was video of “Zio Nazi” guy having an anuerism caused by his screaming!

18 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:22:33am

re: #12 Occasional Reader

“I believe in the United Nations.”

-Barack Obama, April 19, 2009, Port of Spain, Trinidad

I believe he believes.

19 Cathypop  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:22:44am

Why do I have this strong urge to slap these idiots?

20 DanishMade  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:22:49am

Let in the monkeys and you will end up with a monkey circus - how hard can it get?

21 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:23:08am

re: #19 Cathypop

Why do I have this strong urge to slap these idiots?

because your sane!

22 Cathypop  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:23:41am

re: #21 sattv4u2

Thank you.

23 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:24:14am

Durban II seriously disgusts me. How can they get away with calling Elie Wiesel a “Zio-Nazi”!?! This is a man who saw the real Nazis up close and personal, and saw what they did to him, his family, his friends, and his fellow inmates at the camps.

I am so glad we boycotted this farce called Durban II.

24 Right mind left  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:25:15am

They really needed to throw the REAL clowns out, not let them be keynote speakers!

25 KenJen  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:25:31am

If I would have been there I would have kicked that guy in the crotch.

26 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:25:34am

UN meeting approves anti-racism declaration
Published: 04.21.09, 17:46 / Israel News
Over 100 countries at a global meeting on racism have agreed on a declaration calling on the world to
combat intolerance. The declaration reaffirms a 2001 statement issued after the UN’s first global racism meeting in Durban, South Africa.

Israel was the only nation named in that first declaration. This was cited by the US as a reason to boycott the Geneva meeting. The decision by consensus Tuesday comes a day after the UN meeting in Geneva was shaken by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s fiery condemnation of Israel as a “racist” Country. That speech prompted a walkout by European Union countries. (AP)

And let me repeat the relevant part:

The declaration reaffirms a 2001 statement issued after the UN’s first global racism meeting in Durban, South Africa.

Israel was the only nation named in that first declaration.

I hope the British and French who are THERE are happy now!

27 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:25:40am

These people are adults? Looked an awful lot like a car swarm with suits and ties.

28 Buck  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:25:41am

re: #7 MrSilverDragon

I think it’s time to disband the United Nations and start over… problem is we’d probably end up with something even worse.

Membership in any real United Nations has to include a better definition of Nation. No country is a nation without real democracy. Multi Party, secret ballot democracy and freedoms. Without that, the country is a just a privately owned estate. The ambassador is not representing the people, but only the totalitarians private wishes.

The idea was to give the people of the world a voice. Unless the people are truly and freely represented, the UN does not have a moral authority.

29 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:25:46am

re: #23 Honorary Yooper

How can they get away with calling Elie Wiesel a “Zio-Nazi” Because the screamers are rabid anti-Israel and their host (the UN) condones it

30 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:26:45am

That Iranian “Zio-Nazi” chanter sure has the Western Leftist talking points down cold. Who got it from whom? Doesn’t matter. Screw them all.

31 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:27:15am

Thanks for the link Charles. The insanity of this conference is compounded by the failure of Ban Ki Moon to tell Ahmadinejad to take a hike altogether. Instead, he agreed to allow Ahmadinejad to make his keynote address by watering down the anti-Semitism and anti-Israel and Holocaust denying remarks.

Moon should be absolutely ashamed of his role in this mess. Instead of standing up against this nonsense, Moon showed he is a coward in the face of evil. He did not stand up to evil, but encouraged and enabled evil.

32 Adrenalyn  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:27:53am

It’s beyond sickening what the United Nations has allowed to occur here; it’s sheer evil.

still Charles
this is the type of thread that just begs for an outrage meter

/drive by posting
but think about it, please

33 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:28:20am

re: #31 lawhawk

Thanks for the link Charles. The insanity of this conference is compounded by the failure of Ban Ki Moon to tell Ahmadinejad to take a hike altogether. Instead, he agreed to allow Ahmadinejad to make his keynote address by watering down the anti-Semitism and anti-Israel and Holocaust denying remarks.

Moon should be absolutely ashamed of his role in this mess. Instead of standing up against this nonsense, Moon showed he is a coward in the face of evil. He did not stand up to evil, but encouraged and enabled evil.

If he wasn’t a coward and running dog apologist he would never have gotten the job!

34 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:28:28am

re: #25 KenJen

If I would have been there I would have kicked that guy in the crotch.

He’s screaming abuse at a octogenerian. You’re assuming he has balls to harm with your kick.

35 Buck  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:28:56am

re: #23 Honorary Yooper

How can they get away with calling Elie Wiesel a “Zio-Nazi”!?!

Because he showed up. Do you think it is possible he didn’t know what would happen if he showed up?

Sorry… I know UNWATCH and Elie showed up to embarrass the UN, but I would have rather ignored this whole thing.

36 Mithrax  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:29:43am

Personally, I think what there should be is an alternative to the UN.

But it will never work, because of people who believe that all nations should be a part of it yadda yadda yadda. blah blah blah.

When the UN allowed smaller nations to be a part of it’s general membership, they were warned that a majority of the smaller nations could derail it, and lo and behold, it’s happened.

37 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:30:15am

re: #35 Buck

Because he showed up. Do you think it is possible he didn’t know what would happen if he showed up?

Sorry… I know UNWATCH and Elie showed up to embarrass the UN, but I would have rather ignored this whole thing.

Blaming the victim is bad Karma

I understand your point, but sorry

38 Ojoe  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:30:21am

Who can believe that this growing evil will not be defeated without major war?

39 dhg4  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:30:26am

re: #3 bikergrl

Do we need to be in the UN? Can’t we quit?

I don’t believe we need it. I’m not even sure the world needs it. Other than giving jobs to otherwise unemployable diplomats, politicians and academics, I’m not exactly sure what positive it accomplishes.

But none of this is new. If you want to understand how corrupt the UN is read the late Jeane Kirkpatrick’s “How the PLO was legitimized” or David Kopel’s the UNRWA and Palestinian suffering or this roundup about the UN coverup about the kidnaping of Israeli soldiers across the international border or Dr. David Zangen’s rebuttal of Terje Roed Larsen’s lies about Jenin.

The UN has been a cesspool of anti-Israel hatred for quite a while. There’s no reason to expect that to change anytime soon.

40 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:30:59am

re: #35 Buck

Sorry… I know UNWATCH and Elie showed up to embarrass the UN, but I would have rather ignored this whole thing.

I think they made the right call. Civilized people need to make a LOT of noise about this sickness, this legitimizing of monsters.

41 dhg4  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:31:35am

re: #31 lawhawk

Thanks for the link Charles. The insanity of this conference is compounded by the failure of Ban Ki Moon to tell Ahmadinejad to take a hike altogether. Instead, he agreed to allow Ahmadinejad to make his keynote address by watering down the anti-Semitism and anti-Israel and Holocaust denying remarks.

Moon should be absolutely ashamed of his role in this mess. Instead of standing up against this nonsense, Moon showed he is a coward in the face of evil. He did not stand up to evil, but encouraged and enabled evil.

And what’s really disconcerting is that Moon is probably an improvement over his predecessor.

42 John  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:31:37am

I’m glad this monstrosity was held in Geneva, and not New York. Can we move the entire UN there?

43 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:31:53am

re: #35 Buck

Because he showed up. Do you think it is possible he didn’t know what would happen if he showed up?

Sorry… I know UNWATCH and Elie showed up to embarrass the UN, but I would have rather ignored this whole thing.

Really, isn’t that what some people did in the late 1930’s, ignore the whole thing?

Are you joking?

44 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:32:17am

re: #31 lawhawk

By permitting Ahmadinejad to speak, Ban Kee-Moon has facilitated the (further) abasement of the UN standards.

From the UN Charter:

PREAMBLE

WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED

* to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and
* to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and
* to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and
* to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

AND FOR THESE ENDS

* to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and
* to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and
* to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and
* to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,


How does the Durban II fiasco further those goals?

45 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:32:18am

re: #42 John

I’m glad this monstrosity was held in Geneva, and not New York. Can we move the entire UN there?

What do you have against Geneva?

46 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:32:31am

re: #35 Buck

I’ve got to disagree with you. Sunlight is the best disinfectant and speaking up and confronting evil such as Ahmadinejad and Iran must be done.

47 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:32:46am

re: #45 sattv4u2

What do you have against Geneva?

It ain’t NY?

48 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:32:47am

re: #42 John

We should have done that a few years ago, when property values were high, now, all they will have where the UN was is open space,instead of high end condo’s

49 neoconundrum  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:32:57am

Great. With Iran on their nuclear march, and militant Islam on the up-swing, what have we conservatives done?

What we’ve done during these difficult times is SELF-IMPLODE. We’ve stuck knives in the backs of all our fellow conservatives.

The anti-Americans and the anti-semites couldn’t have prayed for such a gift.

50 Hhar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:33:20am

Behold the evil influence of Darwinism.

51 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:33:29am

re: #44 Kenneth

Well, it makes all nations equal - giving the third world dictatorships equal say with those nations that actually respect human rights and freedoms. /

52 HoosierHoops  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:33:50am

re: #42 John

I’m glad this monstrosity was held in Geneva, and not New York. Can we move the entire UN there?

That is an excellent idea!

53 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:33:55am

re: #46 lawhawk

Sunlight is the best disinfectant

Stop promoting pseudo-science!

///

54 astronmr20  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:34:15am

re: #31 lawhawk

Thanks for the link Charles. The insanity of this conference is compounded by the failure of Ban Ki Moon to tell Ahmadinejad to take a hike altogether. Instead, he agreed to allow Ahmadinejad to make his keynote address by watering down the anti-Semitism and anti-Israel and Holocaust denying remarks.

Moon should be absolutely ashamed of his role in this mess. Instead of standing up against this nonsense, Moon showed he is a coward in the face of evil. He did not stand up to evil, but encouraged and enabled evil.

Can you imagine if by some twist of fortune, that John Bolton was somehow able to be Secretary-General?

55 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:34:23am

re: #32 Adrenalyn

… still Charles
this is the type of thread that just begs for an outrage meter …

There is not, nor could there ever be any meter constructed capable of measuring the outrage.

*angry over the top curse words deleted*
*thoughts of violence filtered out of comment*

56 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:34:26am

re: #42 John

I’m glad this monstrosity was held in Geneva, and not New York. Can we move the entire UN there?

They don’t deserve Geneva. It’s a gorgeous city. How about Khartoum?

57 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:34:33am

re: #42 John

I’m glad this monstrosity was held in Geneva, and not New York. Can we move the entire UN there?

Atlantis might be a better choice - mythical, non-existant, and underwater…

58 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:34:37am

re: #50 Hhar

Behold the evil influence of Darwinism.

happy trials

59 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:34:45am
60 GOPCanuck  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:34:45am

Is it 2013 yet….

61 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:34:45am

re: #50 Hhar

Sarc tag missing perhaps?

62 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:34:53am

re: #47 Nevergiveup

It ain’t NY?

Good point ,, but I’m thinking more along the lines of a Mogudishu,. or The top of the North Pole. Somewhere where they would endure hardships, not lunch at Tavern On The Green

63 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:35:14am

re: #47 Nevergiveup

What is? Remember the old saying ” everything west of New York is Iowa, and everything east of New York is Bridgeport.

64 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:35:21am
65 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:35:24am

re: #61 Oh no…Sand People!

Sarc tag missing perhaps?

Look at it’s karma. I don’t think so

66 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:35:27am

re: #48 smokefire

We should have done that a few years ago, when property values were high, now, all they will have where the UN was is open space,instead of high end condo’s

Open space would be an improvement. Turtle Bay Park, anyone?

67 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:35:49am

re: #50 Hhar

Behold the evil influence of Darwinism.

Did you do something evil to Darwin?

68 astronmr20  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:35:51am

Durban Durban! Mohammed jihad!

69 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:36:08am

re: #65 Nevergiveup

Look at it’s karma. I don’t think so

It’s about to get worse!

70 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:36:17am

I am really proud of the nations that boycotted. I am less proud, but still glad that a lot of nations who showed up finally had the moxie to leave when Dinnerjacket spouted his anti-Israel crap.

71 opnion  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:36:17am

re: #52 HoosierHoops

That is an excellent idea!

I would suggest a move to Somalia, where the diplomats coud enjoy the theater & Five Star dining.

72 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:36:31am

re: #63 smokefire

What is? Remember the old saying ” everything west of New York is Iowa, and everything east of New York is Bridgeport.

Well they never should have taken Hi li out of Bridgeport?

73 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:36:43am

re: #67 Walter L. Newton

Did you watch Return of the King last night?

74 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:37:08am

re: #50 Hhar

Behold the evil influence of Darwinism.

Behold the evil influence of marijuana.

75 jcm  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:37:16am

re: #66 Honorary Yooper

Open space would be an improvement. Turtle Bay Park, anyone?

We’d have to have a superfund clean up first.

76 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:37:21am

re: #65 Nevergiveup

Look at it’s karma. I don’t think so

Well, it has the right avatar. The avatar says “Stupid Idiot”. Very fitting, IMHO.

77 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:37:22am

re: #73 Leonidas Hoplite

Did you watch Return of the King last night?

Yes. The directors cut.

78 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:37:37am

re: #73 Leonidas Hoplite

Did you watch Return of the King last night?

Obama made it back to Washington DC?

79 Athens Runaway  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:37:57am

Honest question: if a Republican was president, would the US boycotting Durban II have started the chain reaction of boycotts that it did?

80 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:38:05am

re: #75 jcm

We’d have to have a superfund clean up first.

Might be worth it.

81 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:38:06am

I hate to have to say it, but Elie Wiesel needs bodyguards. This could easily have turned into a physical assault on him. I wouldn’t mind seeing, say, a couple of ex-Matkal boys dance a jig on Mr. “ZioNazi!“‘s face were he to attempt it.

82 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:38:14am

re: #74 MrSilverDragon

Behold the evil influence of marijuana.

Don’t blame marijuana for that one…that should be the Discovery Institute.

83 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:38:24am

re: #77 Walter L. Newton

Awesome - I hoped you liked it.

84 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:38:34am

re: #32 Adrenalyn

It’s beyond sickening what the United Nations has allowed to occur here; it’s sheer evil.

still Charles
this is the type of thread that just begs for an outrage meter

/drive by posting
but think about it, please

……………….Outrage meter yes, however a BULLSHIT meter would be pegged, the minute that fool started speaking

85 Hhar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:38:44am

re: #61 Oh no…Sand People!

Did I really need to add a sarcasm tag?

I mean…look,creationist nonsense from Glen Rose Texas (I kid you not) and the Pauluxy “man tracks” has turned up in an Iranian museum exhibit on evolution.

86 astronmr20  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:38:53am

re: #79 Athens Runaway

Another question;

Did the US pullout actually start the chain reaction?

87 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:39:06am

U.N. Official Investigated for Wrongdoing Still at Post

EXCLUSIVE: Nearly a year after a top United Nations official was found by investigators to have fraudulently obtained a Kenyan government weapons permit-a crime under local law -the official still holds his high-ranking post in the U.N.’s regional Nairobi headquarters, despite several appeals to have him punished.

The battle over a major infraction of local law by a senior U.N. official offers a small but revealing window into the byzantine processes of the United Nations, where wrongdoing can lead to lengthy investigations followed by not much else— when high-ranking officials from influential countries are involved.

In this case the gun-toting individual is Russian-born Alexander Barabanov, who was-and is-the director of administrative services in the United Nations Office in Nairobi, or UNON, the U.N.’s most important regional outpost in Africa and one of its most important offices around the world.

The person who campaigned hardest to have action taken against Barabanov is Anna Tibaijuka, at the time the director-general of the Nairobi headquarters, and thus Barabanov’s ostensible boss. But Tibaijuka was abruptly removed from her director-general job by U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on March 1, and replaced by a less senior official.

88 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:39:10am

EXCLUSIVE: Nearly a year after a top United Nations official was found by investigators to have fraudulently obtained a Kenyan government weapons permit-a crime under local law -the official still holds his high-ranking post in the U.N.’s regional Nairobi headquarters, despite several appeals to have him punished.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

The UN—The gift that keeps on giving

89 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:39:30am

re: #86 astronmr20

Another question;

Did the US pullout actually start the chain reaction?

The timing suggests it did, to which I appluaded Obama when it happened

90 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:39:39am

re: #42 John

I’m glad this monstrosity was held in Geneva, and not New York. Can we move the entire UN there?

I recommend the United States pick up all costs to move the UN to Tehran.

91 Right mind left  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:39:46am

re: #79 Athens Runaway

Honest question: if a Republican was president, would the US boycotting Durban II have started the chain reaction of boycotts that it did?

Earlier. Much earlier I think…they would not have even gone, to then walk out.

92 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:39:47am

re: #82 Oh no…Sand People!

Don’t blame marijuana for that one…that should be the Discovery Institute.

My apologies to the pot-smoking crowd.

93 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:39:54am

re: #87 NJDhockeyfan

by 4 seconds, I am impressed

94 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:39:56am

re: #49 neoconundrum

What we’ve done during these difficult times is SELF-IMPLODE. We’ve stuck knives in the backs of all our fellow conservatives.

Or we could be making sure that we’re not trading one evil for another.

95 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:40:17am

re: #79 Athens Runaway

Honest question: if a Republican was president, would the US boycotting Durban II have started the chain reaction of boycotts that it did?

No. With Republican Derangement syndrome, a lot of the countries would have attended just to disagree with a Republican President.

96 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:40:18am

re: #90 unrealizedviewpoint

I recommend the United States pick up all costs to move the UN to Tehran.

I’d donate.

97 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:40:27am

Aside from the obvious irony of islamonazis calling victims of the real nazis “zionazis,” i wonder why the organizers chose not to invite Mr. Wiesel to speak right after dinnerjacket?

That would have been one for the history books.

98 Athens Runaway  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:40:33am

re: #89 sattv4u2

Beat me to it. It’s my belief that if a Republican pulled out, few would have followed. I suppose Obamania has its upsides…

99 KenJen  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:40:43am

re: #42 John

I’m glad this monstrosity was held in Geneva, and not New York. Can we move the entire UN there?

U.S tax payers would have to foot the bill no doubt. I say implode th U.N. Let someone else rebuild it wherever they want. So long as it’s not on U.S. soil.

100 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:40:43am

re: #85 Hhar

Did I really need to add a sarcasm tag?

I mean…look,creationist nonsense from Glen Rose Texas (I kid you not) and the Pauluxy “man tracks” has turned up in an Iranian museum exhibit on evolution.

And that has what to do with Darwin? It sounds like that has to do with creationism.

I must be confused for I’m not following.

101 HoosierHoops  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:41:12am

re: #77 Walter L. Newton

Yes. The directors cut.

Good Morning Walter! After everything you have posted about LOST.I’ve decided to take the plunge and buy the first year and check it out..I’ve only seen a couple of minutes of the show..But now I think I get the plot points
and it makes alot more sense to me..Sounds like a good mystery/Drama show..

102 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:41:17am

re: #86 astronmr20

I wouldn’t read into it too deeply either way.
To attend or not to attend has been a source of controversy/discussion/politicking in Western countries pretty much since the day the first one ended.

103 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:41:36am

re: #74 MrSilverDragon

Behold the evil influence of marijuana huffing paint from a lunch baggie.

104 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:41:44am

re: #93 Nevergiveup

by 4 seconds, I am impressed

GMTA

105 tompaineftw  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:42:09am

re: #79 Athens Runaway

Honest question: if a Republican was president, would the US boycotting Durban II have started the chain reaction of boycotts that it did?

Hard to say. The world never gets it right, so maybe not.

106 astronmr20  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:42:10am

re: #89 sattv4u2

The timing suggests it did, to which I appluaded Obama when it happened

As did I…

So if it really did, I suppose this is one area where Obama’s actions hold more than Bush’s would have. Which, of course, just highlights the ridiculousness that is the UN.

107 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:42:15am

re: #97 _RememberTonyC

…………TonyC, there might not have been anyone there to hear the speech. Western Countries walk out on Dinner Jacket, Muslim countries, and supporters walk out on Wiesel, it would have been empty.

108 so.cal.swede  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:42:41am
It’s beyond sickening what the United Nations has allowed to occur here; it’s sheer evil.

I agree to some extent. But I also can’t help but feel that it is good to give lunatics an opportunity to expose themselves as the frothing demons they truly are. I think a lot of people think “they are just misunderstood and some of their complaints might be legitimate”.

But when you see stuff like this from Dinnerjacket, even the most L3 will be feeling a strange sensation of discord in the pit of their stomach.

109 Buck  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:42:48am

re: #43 Walter L. Newton

Really, isn’t that what some people did in the late 1930’s, ignore the whole thing?

Are you joking?

I don’t think it is the same thing. I don’t mean pretend it isn’t happening, but rather just let them shout in their own echo chamber.

If no one from the West were to show up, it would have the same credibility as an IOC meeting…

110 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:42:56am

re: #54 astronmr20

That will absolutely never happen under the current methods of determining the Secretary General because one of the 5 permanent members will vote against it. It’s a consensus choice that is deemed to be the least offensive person to all who have a say in the matter and through a rotation between the continents. Expect the next Secretary general to likely come from Central or South America when Moon’s term is up.

111 HoosierHoops  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:43:28am

re: #92 MrSilverDragon

My apologies to the pot-smoking crowd.

LOL..
Shhhhh! They are still sleeping in…

112 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:43:34am

re: #85 Hhar

Did I really need to add a sarcasm tag?

I mean…look,creationist nonsense from Glen Rose Texas (I kid you not) and the Pauluxy “man tracks” has turned up in an Iranian museum exhibit on evolution.

Your original post didn’t make that clear - you sounded like you were blaming Darwin for anti-Semitism.

113 Hhar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:43:44am

re: #100 Oh no…Sand People!

I

Was

Being

Sarcastic.

The Iranian gov’t has the same official stance towards evolution that it has towards the Holocaust: it is “dubious”. That’s why you can’t blame this jerk screaming “Zionazi!” on Darwin.

114 garden18  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:43:50am

This video makes the prophetic insight of Theodor Herzl that much clearer. Herzl saw a Jewish homeland as a place of refuge, plain and simple. After the Dreyfus trial, which he covered as a reporter for an Austrian newspaper, Herzl realized that the so-called civilized world had no room for Jews and that Jews would never be welcome in the Diaspora. Without a homeland in Israel today, we would be in a truly desperate situation.
My father said you could judge the true character of a person by his feelings towards Jews. Although I frequently disagree with the opinions of Charles Johnson, particularly on creationism, I have to acknowledge his fundamental goodness in taking the side of Israel and the Jews.

115 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:01am

re: #83 Leonidas Hoplite

Awesome - I hoped you liked it.

I didn’t hate it. But I’m not a big fan of those type of fantasy stories. I’ve now watch all three movies, directors cut all, and I honestly felt that if you were not a fan of the books, that you would have a bit of trouble following the plot.

I did.

And maybe I missed something, but I was sort of looking for the “there’s no place like home” message, some sort of overall message, and I didn’t see it.

And, as I was discussing with my girlfriend, I saw Frodo as the weakest character in the story. No good reason to have the ring, Gandalf told him to go to Mordor, he was in a mild to heavy trance most of the time, and the real reason he “saved the day” and realized Sam was truly a friend was because some little imp bit his finger off. And then he boogies at the end.

If any character had an arc, both personality wise and gaining wisdom, it was Sam.

116 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:02am

re: #108 so.cal.swede

I agree to some extent. But I also can’t help but feel that it is good to give lunatics an opportunity to expose themselves as the frothing demons they truly are. I think a lot of people think “they are just misunderstood and some of their complaints might be legitimate”.

But when you see stuff like this from Dinnerjacket, even the most L3 will be feeling a strange sensation of discord in the pit of their stomach.

Yeah, It would suck memorizing that speech for the next test in their polisci class…
/

117 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:03am

The term “Zionazi” is commonly used at dKos, as this google search shows.

www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=zionazi+site%3Awww.dailykos.com

Look through the hits that google comes up with. You will find that some people will mildly object to the term but that it is used quite commonly nonetheless, often as a “tag” for posts.

118 Teacake!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:18am
Buck

Sorry… I know UNWATCH and Elie showed up to embarrass the UN, but I would have rather ignored this whole thing.

How is it you “know” Elie’s intentions? Its more than a appropriate for a holocaust survivor to show up on holocaust remembrance day when a holocaust denier is speaking at an anti Israel affair

119 astronmr20  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:24am

re: #110 lawhawk

What a total 3-ring circus.

120 SteveC  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:29am

re: #59 buzzsawmonkey

Why should they have continuous access to fine chocolate?

Hyperglycemia, one could hope.

121 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:30am
122 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:30am

re: #99 KenJen

U.S tax payers would have to foot the bill no doubt. I say implode th U.N. Let someone else rebuild it wherever they want. So long as it’s not on U.S. soil.

The UN already has a major facility in Geneva. But NYC would suffer economically from the loss of the consulates and all those supporting the UN staff in the City. It’s still a net-gain for the local economy. Replacing the UN with a League of Democracies is a better idea.

123 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:32am

Lawhawk (or anyone), does anybody know who the “ZioNazi” screamer is, exactly?

124 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:37am

re: #106 astronmr20

As did I…

So if it really did, I suppose this is one area where Obama’s actions hold more than Bush’s would have. Which, of course, just highlights the ridiculousness that is the UN.

Without it actually occuring, we would have no idea how many nations would have followed a Bush decision to pull out. Some of the same may have, some may not have. Some that decided to go may have pulled out.
No way of knowing. As stated, Obama gets an “A” on this one

125 DaddyG  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:47am

re: #7 MrSilverDragon

I think it’s time to disband the United Nations and start over… problem is we’d probably end up with something even worse.

Just disband it and let civilized sovereign nations work together of their own accord. Setting up a pseudo-world governing body is a very, very bad idea. Something along the lines of NATO would be a better model.

126 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:49am

re: #117 karmic_inquisitor

This link may work better

127 brookly red  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:44:56am

re: #90 unrealizedviewpoint

I recommend the United States pick up all costs to move the UN to Tehran.

All snarking aside, I think it is too corrupt to be allowed to continue, even in Tehran.

128 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:45:00am

re: #98 Athens Runaway

Beat me to it. It’s my belief that if a Republican pulled out, few would have followed. I suppose Obamania has its upsides…

Strongly worded statements are no subsitute for strong action. It’s far easier to withdraw from a game of charades like Durban II than it is to take real action with all the risks and rewards that go with it. At this moment I am not convinced that Obama will continue to ‘take a stand’ if the going got tougher. But I do agree, I applaud him for withdrawing, it is promising.

129 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:45:08am

That’s the U.N.: Sheer Evil.

130 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:45:21am

re: #111 HoosierHoops

LOL..
Shhhhh! They are still sleeping in…

Upding, even though I have a coffee-saturated keyboard now.

131 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:45:49am

re: #101 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Walter! After everything you have posted about LOST.I’ve decided to take the plunge and buy the first year and check it out..I’ve only seen a couple of minutes of the show..But now I think I get the plot points
and it makes alot more sense to me..Sounds like a good mystery/Drama show..

May your journey be good. And if you have any questions, I’ll try to answer without tipping points. It really is a LARGE plotted show, so, you will not be disappointed if you make it through all the seasons.

132 Red Cloud  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:46:25am

It’s worth mentioning that this is taking place during the Holocaust Days of Remembrance.

Is this the UN finally peering from behind its facade of positivity and peaceful coexistence?

133 Athens Runaway  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:46:26am

One thing that my Obama-loving friend told me after the election I’m starting to see more and more. There is a big disconnect between “what he wants to do” and “what he can do.” The example he gave was the Iraqi War. He may have WANTED to start pulling out on Jan. 22, but he COULDN’T, because it’s not politically expedient.

Snubbing Durban II seems like it may have fallen into that same category.

134 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:46:39am

re: #99 KenJen

U.S tax payers would have to foot the bill no doubt. I say implode th U.N. Let someone else rebuild it wherever they want. So long as it’s not on U.S. soil.

I’ve said in the past that something useful should be built on the site, like a Super Wal*Mart, or a dog park.

135 Darwin Akbar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:46:39am

Just what does Roger Cohen, the Resident Kapo of the NY Times, have to say about this? Will he quote Juan Cole, who’s probably going on about how this cuddly Iranian fellow was mistranslated and misunderstood by the International Jewish Conspiracy?

136 astronmr20  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:46:48am

re: #115 Walter L. Newton

Walter— you nailed it. This is essentially the way it is in the books, too.

As for an overall theme, I guess you could say Frodo didn’t stand a chance without the help of his friends like Sam.

137 DaddyG  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:47:04am

re: #48 smokefire

We should have done that a few years ago, when property values were high, now, all they will have where the UN was is open space,instead of high end condo’s

A nice dog walk would be better use of the space. Go for it.

138 SteveC  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:47:04am

re: #71 opnion

I would suggest a move to Somalia, where the diplomats coud enjoy the theater & Five Star dining.

That is cold, cruel, inhumane, and probably violates several standards of Human Decency!

Let’s discuss it over lunch!

139 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:47:41am

re: #113 Hhar

I

Was

Being

Sarcastic.

The Iranian gov’t has the same official stance towards evolution that it has towards the Holocaust: it is “dubious”. That’s why you can’t blame this jerk screaming “Zionazi!” on Darwin.

Which you did. Without a sarc tag. Just know that there have been so many who have posted what you have who were serious. Which is why we are all dubious with those types of post. ‘/’ works wonders.

140 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:47:46am

re: #115 Walter L. Newton

I saw Frodo as the weakest character in the story…. If any character had an arc, both personality wise and gaining wisdom, it was Sam.

I completely agree. Samwise is the real hero.

141 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:47:51am

re: #107 smokefire

…………TonyC, there might not have been anyone there to hear the speech. Western Countries walk out on Dinner Jacket, Muslim countries, and supporters walk out on Wiesel, it would have been empty.

maybe so, but a bunch of countries could have walked back in to hear the speech of Elie Wiesel!

142 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:47:53am

re: #137 DaddyG

A nice dog walk would be better use of the space. Go for it.

GMTA.

143 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:47:55am

re: #132 Red Cloud

It’s worth mentioning that this is taking place during the Holocaust Days of Remembrance.

Is this the UN finally peering from behind its facade of positivity and peaceful coexistence?

………….Yeah and that was no mistake either.
Anyone that believes that, I have swampland in Cuba to sell you

144 Hhar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:48:11am

re: #112 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I suggest that your impression of how I sounded is framed largely by the importance creationists/IDTers have given to the Darwin=>Holocaust idea. There are more versions of creationism (and antiSemitism) in hell and earth than in your philosophy, Horatio.

145 Land Shark  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:48:19am

Well, count me in as one who hopes Durban II fails. And the UN too. Oh, sorry, the UN already failed. Silly me.

146 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:48:20am

re: #123 Occasional Reader

I’m trying to pin that one down, but no luck so far.

147 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:48:27am

re: #134 Ward Cleaver

I’ve said in the past that something useful should be built on the site, like a Super Wal*Mart, or a dog park.

Urban blight would be better than the UN.

148 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:48:40am

re: #143 smokefire

………….Yeah and that was no mistake either.
Anyone that believes that, I have swampland in Cuba to sell you

Pretty soon, you’ll be able to sell it, legally.

149 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:48:53am

re: #147 Creeping Eruption

Urban blight would be better than the UN.

Projects?

150 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:48:59am

re: #134 Ward Cleaver

I’ve said in the past that something useful should be built on the site, like a Super Wal*Mart, or a dog park.

Shooting range!

151 astronmr20  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:49:09am

re: #133 Athens Runaway

That’s fine with me. Let him be like a Bill Clinton, doing things out of political expediency, than a stubborn ideologue who appoints more stubborn ideologues.

152 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:49:29am

re: #136 astronmr20

Walter— you nailed it. This is essentially the way it is in the books, too.

As for an overall theme, I guess you could say Frodo didn’t stand a chance without the help of his friends like Sam.

Thanks. I hope I don’t get too flamed. I know there is a LOT of Ring fans here.

153 astronmr20  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:49:33am

re: #138 SteveC

That is cold, cruel, inhumane, and probably violates several standards of Human Decency!

Let’s discuss it over lunch!

No, let’s discuss it over martinis and hookers.

//UN

154 brookly red  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:49:42am

re: #132 Red Cloud

It’s worth mentioning that this is taking place during the Holocaust Days of Remembrance.

Is this the UN finally peering from behind its facade of positivity and peaceful coexistence?

Yup, & as subtly as a pit-bull.

155 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:49:49am

re: #148 Ward Cleaver

Thank you Ward for catching that. Nice Grab

156 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:50:10am
157 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:50:34am

re: #115 Walter L. Newton

I didn’t hate it. But I’m not a big fan of those type of fantasy stories. I’ve now watch all three movies, directors cut all, and I honestly felt that if you were not a fan of the books, that you would have a bit of trouble following the plot.

I did.

And maybe I missed something, but I was sort of looking for the “there’s no place like home” message, some sort of overall message, and I didn’t see it.

And, as I was discussing with my girlfriend, I saw Frodo as the weakest character in the story. No good reason to have the ring, Gandalf told him to go to Mordor, he was in a mild to heavy trance most of the time, and the real reason he “saved the day” and realized Sam was truly a friend was because some little imp bit his finger off. And then he boogies at the end.

If any character had an arc, both personality wise and gaining wisdom, it was Sam.

The movie omitted the most important chapter of the book (in Prof. Tolkien’s claims, anyway), “The Scouring of the Shire”, in which the hobbits return hope and clean up Saruman’s activities on their own.

158 Idle Drifter  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:50:58am

re: #150 Occasional Reader

Shooting range!

In the middle of New York City? People there would be lucky to get a permit after 2 years of red tape.

159 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:51:07am

re: #146 lawhawk

I’m trying to pin that one down, but no luck so far.

One proofreading note… your blog says:

Just when you think that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s rants can’t get worse, he comes along and manages to top his performance earlier in the day at the Durban II conference on racism.

He calls Elie Wiesel, a Nobel prize winner and survivor of the Nazi Holocaust during World War II, a Zion-Nazi

This makes it sound like it was Dinnerjacket himself doing the screaming. You might want to rephrase.

160 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:51:17am

re: #136 astronmr20

Walter— you nailed it. This is essentially the way it is in the books, too.

As for an overall theme, I guess you could say Frodo didn’t stand a chance without the help of his friends like Sam.

Or as my wife remarked after watching the movies and never reading the books, “Frodo was such a pussy.”

161 dhg4  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:51:18am

re: #135 Darwin Akbar

Just what does Roger Cohen, the Resident Kapo of the NY Times, have to say about this? Will he quote Juan Cole, who’s probably going on about how this cuddly Iranian fellow was mistranslated and misunderstood by the International Jewish Conspiracy?

Maybe he’ll criticize Ahmadinejad for leaving out any explicit mentions of Holocaust denial.

:-)

162 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:51:39am

re: #153 astronmr20

No, let’s discuss it over martinis and hookers.

//UN

I bet there is money in the stimulus for that…
/

163 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:52:00am

re: #152 Walter L. Newton

Thanks. I hope I don’t get too flamed. I know there is a LOT of Ring fans here.

As a huge fan, I think you make good and fair points.

164 astronmr20  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:52:01am

re: #152 Walter L. Newton

Thanks. I hope I don’t get too flamed. I know there is a LOT of Ring fans here.

Well, without getting too O/T, Frodo had to carry the burden of the ring, which in itself can make the most strong-hearted pretty useless. Especially for one who has used it before, as Frodo had. So before you’re too hard on his candy ass, be sure to consider that. (:

165 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:52:04am

re: #160 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Or as my wife remarked after watching the movies and never reading the books, “Frodo was such a pussy.”

Speaking of which, think Frodo ever got layed?

166 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:52:07am

re: #115 Walter L. Newton

I didn’t hate it. But I’m not a big fan of those type of fantasy stories. I’ve now watch all three movies, directors cut all, and I honestly felt that if you were not a fan of the books, that you would have a bit of trouble following the plot.

I did.

And maybe I missed something, but I was sort of looking for the “there’s no place like home” message, some sort of overall message, and I didn’t see it.

The books’ overall message was more “you can’t go home again.” The last chapters of the book Return of The King had Saruman & Wormtounge taking over the Shire as their own little petty kingdom, and Frodo, Sam & the others had to “scour the shire” of them. Frodo realized that he had sacrificed everything for his home, but after all he had seen & done, he could never really feel at home anymore. Read the books sometime, you’ll probably like them more that the movies.

167 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:52:14am

re: #151 astronmr20

That’s fine with me. Let him be like a Bill Clinton, doing things out of political expediency, than a stubborn ideologue who appoints more stubborn ideologues.

As I’ve said before, the only thing scarier than Obama breaking his campaign promises would be Obama keeping his campaign promises.

168 vxbush  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:52:27am

When I was a kid in the 70’s, I remember we did fundraisers for UNESCO during Halloween, and the UN was always shown in the most beneficial light. I can’t say that I remember that they ever did anything, but it seemed like a nice “grandfather” institution, if you know what I mean.

Now, as I see what the UN is doing, I am appalled, outraged, and upset that I was misled while I was a child. Maybe it wasn’t doing such horrible things back then, but something makes me think that there was almost certainly something going on that I would not have approved of, even as a child.

169 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:52:49am

re: #159 Occasional Reader

Thanks. Corrections on the way.

170 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:53:03am

re: #156 buzzsawmonkey

And the last line in the last book, after Frodo and Co. leave, is Sam’s. He sees them off, returns to his home, and says, “Well, I’m back.”

Which was the “message” you were looking for, wasn’t it?

I don’t know if you are joking with me or a mild taunt, but the directors cut does end up at Sam’s house, not at the boat dock.

171 LittleBenny  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:53:54am

does anyone have a list of the “nations” that applauded Ahmedijidadoodoo? Everyone’s focused on those who walked out, but I think we need to focus on those who stayed and applauded (or remained silent).

172 SteveC  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:53:59am

There are already a group of bums in that NYC Neighborhood. I say knock the buildings down and build them a baseball park.

/Wait ‘till next year!

//Deepest apologies to Brooklyn Dodger fans.

173 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:54:03am

re: #150 Occasional Reader

Shooting range!

Dog Park!

/I love this little guy … 95% bladder, apparently

174 RockmanVermont  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:54:09am

The UN IS evil,simple as that.They allowed it to use their buildings long enough to know what their definition of the word is.

175 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:54:35am

re: #165 Nevergiveup

Speaking of which, think Frodo ever got layed?

Not a chance. Prior to the movies, I always liked Merry and Pippin best. After, I’d say Sam. I was a bit dissapointed they turned Gimli into comic relief.

176 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:54:40am

re: #158 Idle Drifter

In the middle of New York City? People there would be lucky to get a permit after 2 years of red tape.

There actually IS a shooting range in the middle of New York City. But the red tape appears to be baked right in, if you read the range rules.

177 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:55:06am

re: #167 Occasional Reader

As I’ve said before, the only thing scarier than Obama breaking his campaign promises would be Obama keeping his campaign promises.

Why, why … you LIMBAUGH!

/

178 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:55:12am

re: #168 vxbush

VX, If I may, It may have been UNICEF. As a youngster, many years ago, we were given milk cartons, with UN labels on them to collect on Halloween. Yes it was a long time ago, for me.

179 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:55:17am

re: #176 Occasional Reader

There actually IS a shooting range in the middle of New York City. But the red tape appears to be baked right in, if you read the range rules.

Guns are banned there huh?
/

180 HoosierHoops  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:55:46am

re: #173 OldLineTexan

Dog Park!

/I love this little guy … 95% bladder, apparently

Somebody sent me that video the other day at work..I was laughing so hard my cube mates ran over to see what was so funny..

181 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:55:48am

re: #171 LittleBenny

does anyone have a list of the “nations” that applauded Ahmedijidadoodoo? Everyone’s focused on those who walked out, but I think we need to focus on those who stayed and applauded (or remained silent).

I would venture it’s the usual suspects. Most of the African nations, all Middle Eastern ones, The East Asia cabal, Indonesia,,,, etc etc

182 Buck  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:55:59am

re: #46 lawhawk

I’ve got to disagree with you. Sunlight is the best disinfectant and speaking up and confronting evil such as Ahmadinejad and Iran must be done.

You don’t have to stand right in the cesspool to shine sun light on it.

183 DaddyG  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:57:12am

re: #122 lawhawk

The UN already has a major facility in Geneva. But NYC would suffer economically from the loss of the consulates and all those supporting the UN staff in the City. It’s still a net-gain for the local economy. Replacing the UN with a League of Democracies is a better idea.

Just think of the negative impact on NYC prostitution rings alone. /

184 SteveC  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:57:25am

re: #168 vxbush

When I was a kid in the 70’s, I remember we did fundraisers for UNESCO during Halloween, and the UN was always shown in the most beneficial light.

Was that Trick or Treat for UNICEF? I remember that, though we lived too far out in da country to participate. No blue helmets to turn our funds into.

185 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:57:39am

re: #181 sattv4u2

I would venture it’s the usual suspects. Most of the African nations, all Middle Eastern ones, The East Asia cabal, Indonesia,,,, etc etc

…..don’t forget most from South America [Nazi Land West], and some from Central America that don’t know any better.
Have we missed anyone.

186 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:57:49am

re: #176 Occasional Reader

There actually IS a shooting range in the middle of New York City. But the red tape appears to be baked right in, if you read the range rules.

It’s along the lines of the old poem:

Mother, may I go out to swim?
Yes, my darling daughter
Hang your clothes on a hickory limb
And don’t go near the water!

187 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:58:15am

re: #179 Oh no…Sand People!

Guns are banned there huh?
/

If I remember the rules (can’t open the link now, because our work filter blocks Scary Links About Guns), they have firearms rentals available… but only if you already have an NYC pisol permit. Good luck getting that, if you’re not a cop.

188 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:58:31am

re: #122 lawhawk

The UN already has a major facility in Geneva. But NYC would suffer economically from the loss of the consulates and all those supporting the UN staff in the City. It’s still a net-gain for the local economy. Replacing the UN with a League of Democracies is a better idea.

But imagine the money NYC could make if they could start collecting on parking tickets issued to the diplomats & staff!

189 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:58:39am
190 AMER1CAN  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:58:46am

I’m trying to think what would be the equivalent in sheer idiocy to having Ahmadinejad give a speech at the UN on racism…

How about maybe Tookie Williams as a character witness?

If the UN were disbanded money and lives would be saved. Period.

191 Dianna  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:58:50am

re: #184 SteveC

Was that Trick or Treat for UNICEF? I remember that, though we lived too far out in da country to participate. No blue helmets to turn our funds into.

I’m so glad I am too old for that sort of nonsense to have been shoved down my throat.

192 Buck  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 8:59:59am

re: #122 lawhawk

The UN already has a major facility in Geneva. But NYC would suffer economically from the loss of the consulates and all those supporting the UN staff in the City. It’s still a net-gain for the local economy. Replacing the UN with a League of Democracies is a better idea.

I agree…. just extend NATO a little bit…

193 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:00:08am

re: #150 Occasional Reader

Shooting range!

With the Wal*Mart next door, so you can just walk over and buy more ammo!

194 vxbush  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:00:11am

re: #178 smokefire

VX, If I may, It may have been UNICEF. As a youngster, many years ago, we were given milk cartons, with UN labels on them to collect on Halloween. Yes it was a long time ago, for me.

Ah, that may be it. My old brain doesn’t remember well. But it still hurts to see an organization either turn on its good programming or else has always been apathetic to evil and thus lied to me as a child.

195 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:00:15am

re: #191 Dianna

I’m so glad I am too old for that sort of nonsense to have been shoved down my throat.

I was trick or treating for UNESCO in the 50’s. You’re not older than that?

196 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:00:17am

re: #191 Dianna

Dianna, back then it was the thing to do.

197 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:00:32am

re: #191 Dianna

I’m so glad I am too old for that sort of nonsense to have been shoved down my throat.

Once The Candyman killed Halloween in Houston, they tried that UNICEF stuff again. Feh.

198 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:00:48am

re: #191 Dianna

I’m so glad I am too old for that sort of nonsense to have been shoved down my throat.

Dianna, *I* tricked-or-treated for UNICEF, and you’re not older than I am!

199 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:00:56am

re: #195 Walter L. Newton

I was trick or treating for UNESCO in the 50’s. You’re not older than that?

ggaaaahhhh ,,, me too!

Was that you in the ballarina costume, btw!?!?!

200 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:01:01am

re: #191 Dianna

I’m so glad I am too old for that sort of nonsense to have been shoved down my throat.

Those boxes got heavy, and sometimes houses would only give the change and no treat. Talk about a bummer!

Only thing worse was getting a toothbrush from the dentist in the neighborhood.

201 DaddyG  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:01:37am

re: #173 OldLineTexan

Dog Park!

/I love this little guy … 95% bladder, apparently

I am really trying not to laugh out loud and spit chunky soup on the monitor…

202 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:01:38am

re: #195 Walter L. Newton

Walter, then we are both that old. I remember it as UNICEF, with the milk cartons, and such.

203 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:01:38am
204 pink freud  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:01:43am

re: #190 AMER1CAN

I’m trying to think what would be the equivalent in sheer idiocy to having Ahmadinejad give a speech at the UN on racism…

Moe Def as International Spokesman for Toastmasters.

205 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:01:46am

The UN will always stick up for thugs in their midst.

America must continue and loudly assert our commitment to end jihad arcross the World. That is, if we still believe in the validity of that fight…

206 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:02:00am

Next thread: The FBI throws right-wingers a bone.

207 Land Shark  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:02:21am

re: #157 OldLineTexan

Absolutely. The Scouring Of The Shire is one of the best parts of the books. It shows how far the Hobbits have come from those easily frightened munchkins they were at the start of the story. The way they rouse and organize the Shire to overthrow Saruman’s thugs shows how much they changed.

By the way, I do not think it’s necessary to read the books to follow The Lord Of The Rings movies. Most of my friends never read the books and followed and loved the movies. Peter Jackson did an amazing job. The Extended Edition DVDs are really worth it.

208 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:02:28am

re: #197 OldLineTexan

Once The Candyman killed Halloween in Houston,

Dare I ask?

209 zeebeach  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:02:40am

Wow, that was disgusting. UN needs to be relocated to anywhere but here. When have they last been effective/relevant/useful? (if ever)?

210 smokefire  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:03:10am

re: #206 OldLineTexan

dare I hope that bone is the femur of Jeanine Garafalo?

211 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:03:36am

re: #203 buzzsawmonkey

Not joking, no taunt. I found the films unwatchable; life is too short, rather read the books. But the book ends with Sam seeing off Frodo and the Elves at the Grey Havens, then coming back to his wife (and kids? can’t remember), looking about his home, and realizing that he is, indeed, “back”—that all that magic and adventure stuff is finally over.

You might appreciate this clip from “Clerks II”, a movie I do not recommend, but I found the clip entertaining. Foul language abounds, so be warned:

212 DaddyG  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:03:51am

re: #182 Buck

You don’t have to stand right in the cesspool to shine sun light on it.

I’m not so sure I would want to argue that Elie Wiesel can’t go to a conference on racism at risk of offending or agitating the other participants. It amounts to a PC version of “No Jews Allowed”.

Not cool bro.

213 Idle Drifter  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:04:18am

re: #176 Occasional Reader
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214 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:04:31am

re: #208 Occasional Reader

Dare I ask?

The Candyman

215 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:04:34am

re: #203 buzzsawmonkey

I found the films unwatchable

How long have you been a lousy America-hating Middle Earth-hating commie, buzzsaw?

(I thought the films were very well-done; it was a massive challenging turning the books into films, and Jackson did it as well as anyone could have, IMHO.)

216 J.S.  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:05:19am

re: #171 LittleBenny

I posted a list (from wiki) yesterday of the nations which remained at this farce…(basically it was delegates from Arab and Third World countries). Wiki page (which has been updated) here…scroll down to the “Summary” part for list of nations, etc.

217 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:06:28am

re: #197 OldLineTexan

Once The Candyman killed Halloween in Houston, they tried that UNICEF stuff again. Feh.

Sammy Davis Jr. killed Halloween?
/

218 AMER1CAN  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:06:49am

re: #190 AMER1CAN

I’m trying to think what would be the equivalent in sheer idiocy to having Ahmadinejad give a speech at the UN on racism…

How about maybe Tookie Williams as a character witness?

How about nominating Tookie for a Nobel peace prize since that actually happened.

219 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:07:10am

re: #213 Idle Drifter

This place is expensive!

Welcome to Manhattan!

220 zeebeach  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:10:35am

re: #215 Occasional Reader

Agreed. Very difficult conversion and I must admit I watch all 3 films every rainy Saturday or Sunday I can, which is at least 3 times per year. Very uplifting IMO.

221 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:11:58am
222 Buck  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:13:00am

re: #212 DaddyG

I’m not so sure I would want to argue that Elie Wiesel can’t go to a conference on racism at risk of offending or agitating the other participants. It amounts to a PC version of “No Jews Allowed”.

Not cool bro.

You can see it that way. and BTW I am not saying HE CAN’T…. I am just saying he shouldn’t have.

It is very interesting to me that we all agree that countries should boycott….

223 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:15:33am

re: #176 Occasional Reader

I always wonder where Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver went for his target practice. Maybe somewhere in Jersey.

224 herdingcats  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:16:31am

Should we:

a. Find out how much the UN spent on this hatefest and deduct that from this year’s payment to the UN, or

b. Stop all payments to the UN, immediately and forever, or

c. do (a) and then follow up with (b) when they complain (would this be petulant? we don’t want to look or sound like Hugo Chavez after all, and anyway he’s got the overgrown-12-year-old-with-a-machine-gun space pretty well staked out), or

d. Make our payments to the UN in toxic assets (good idea? bad? I don’t know, I just like the sound of it)

Discuss.

225 Dianna  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:19:23am

re: #195 Walter L. Newton

I was trick or treating for UNESCO in the 50’s. You’re not older than that?

No.

Evidently that wasn’t something that got pushed in my little town.

226 debutaunt  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:21:20am

re: #167 Occasional Reader

As I’ve said before, the only thing scarier than Obama breaking his campaign promises would be Obama keeping his campaign promises.

It’s just as good being repeated.

227 jorline  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:23:12am

After all these years I finally figured it out…the UN is the “UN-Cola”.

228 code red 21  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:25:26am

Maybe now we will get out of the UN and boot the bastards out of our country. I know it’s a dream but maybe, someday, we’ll have a leader come along and say enough is enough.

229 robdouth  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:26:55am

re: #122 lawhawk

The UN already has a major facility in Geneva. But NYC would suffer economically from the loss of the consulates and all those supporting the UN staff in the City. It’s still a net-gain for the local economy. Replacing the UN with a League of Democracies is a better idea.

Maybe we could get a Justice League, or a Group of Superfriends.

230 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:27:30am

re: #227 jorline

After all these years I finally figured it out…the UN is the “UN-Cola”.

From my post on the dead thread:
UN - as an English prefix, it negates what follows, as in un-American or unreal.
The UN negates what it purports to stand for.

231 Hhar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:29:19am

re: #139 Oh no…Sand People!

Consider.

Iran is a theocracy. If you can find me someone here blaming the actions of a theocracy on Darwin, well, OK. I will confess that you have sucessfully hunted down my little joke, and killed it most thoroughly.

232 Pupdawg  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:33:17am

re: #12 Occasional Reader

“I believe in the United Nations.”

-Barack Obama, April 19, 2009, Port of Spain, Trinidad

Yet, Barack Obama has circled the globe apologizing for our entire short history while telling all who will listen how very bad America is and has been within his ‘apologies-for-America’ tour…

…and the MSM laps it up like ravenous, rabid, NYC-sized wharf rats trapped on a sinking ship whose decks are laden with the rotting carcass of a once proud America. It is amazing how low this great nation has sunk in International waters as well as stateside. I do hope they love us now. We have been and continue to be scuttled by our President. Mr. Obama makes Jimmy Carter look like a far-right-wing conservative. President Obama in truth probably does not hate the America he envisions, but he definitely hates the America he sees which is precisely the one many of us love. Yes, like all countries America has flaws, present and past, but these flaws are fixable without totally destroying the nation’s foundation after raising it. The raising is underway with Obama and I refuse to believe the overwhelming majority of those who voted for him voted for this wrecking-ball mentality. We know his true agenda and past was well-protected from those who voted against as well as for him by the MSM. The information was and still is out there, but now it matters not. The demolition of America piece by piece is on-going as I type. I fear China awaits patiently for the fire sale to come and our other enemies are planning to destroy our true allies as well as us eventually. Obama continues to thaw the venomus snakes by the fires who will provide the deadly bite sooner or later. He refuses to see the true nature of our venomous enemies even when they state their intentions for our destruction reapeatedly.

Presidents AdmadUNjihad and Obama as well as the UN should be shunned by right-thinking Americans.
Please un-UN the US, pretty please.

233 capitalist piglet  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:44:19am

re: #35 Buck

Because he showed up. Do you think it is possible he didn’t know what would happen if he showed up?
Sorry… I know UNWATCH and Elie showed up to embarrass the UN, but I would have rather ignored this whole thing.

That excuses nothing.

At what point is it reasonable for us to expect better out of these “leaders” than we do out of the frigging KKK? This video is sickening.

234 FrogMarch  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:44:42am

The UN should be abandoned. Let the vile hate-filled Jew haters have it, and then let the UN rot.

235 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:49:51am

re: #234 FrogMarch

The UN should be abandoned. Let the vile hate-filled Jew haters have it, and then let the UN rot.

But it needs to be out of NY and the US. I suggest making the building into a museum of the UN’s failures - Rwanda, etc. - if they all fit in the building.

236 So?  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:51:45am

re: #1 Lincolntf

The U.N. has long been worse than useless in every area that matters. They should be disbanded or ignored.

DISBANDED AND KICKED OUT OF THE USA

237 jorline  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:55:14am

re: #230 Kosh’s Shadow

From my post on the dead thread:
UN - as an English prefix, it negates what follows, as in un-American or unreal.
The UN negates what it purports to stand for.

Excellent point, Kosh.

238 So?  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:55:28am

re: #23 Honorary Yooper

Durban II seriously disgusts me. How can they get away with calling Elie Wiesel a “Zio-Nazi”!?! This is a man who saw the real Nazis up close and personal, and saw what they did to him, his family, his friends, and his fellow inmates at the camps.

I am so glad we boycotted this farce called Durban II.

Yeah, but how about all those European clowns who attended. They walked out yesterday. I’m sure they are back today to enjoy The Jew Hate Fest. Probably walked out to avoid a backlash from their constituents. Good PR.

239 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 9:57:48am

Just watched the video.
It was worse that I had imagined.
Vile, disgusting, awful.

240 opinionated  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:00:34am

First the British attended this conference, now:

Mashaal to address British parliament

Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal is set to address a meeting of MPs and peers in the British parliament via a videoconference from Damascus on Wednesday.

[Link: www.jpost.com…]

If I wrote what I thought of the British, who reneged on the Balfour Declaration, who doomed Jews to Hitler by denying them entry to the land if Israel, who fought with the Arabs in 1948, who are responsible for so much Jewish pain, I ……….

241 EaterOfFood  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:06:21am

The UN issued a declaration equating Zionism with racism many years ago, in 1975 (and since when is a religion a race?). Who was Secretary General at that time? Kurt Waldheim.

Draw your own conclusion.

242 Athos  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:09:26am

re: #240 opinionated

First the British attended this conference, now:

Mashaal to address British parliament


[Link: www.jpost.com…]

If I wrote what I thought of the British, who reneged on the Balfour Declaration, who doomed Jews to Hitler by denying them entry to the land if Israel, who fought with the Arabs in 1948, who are responsible for so much Jewish pain, I ……….

Not to mention the absolutely clueless and bankrupt decision to let the dimimutive Iranian tyrant to provide a alternative to the Queen’s Christmas message.

If any Western nation had any interest in standing up for the values they claim to support and value - then they would have boycotted this farce of a conference. We don’t need any more illustrations of the irrelevance and fecklesness of the UN - but this conference is another in a long line of examples.

243 Hhar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:10:33am

re: #239 reine.de.tout

Of course it is: it is hate, systematically and deliberately propagated over a lifetime. The guy is convinced that it is right for him to hate.

I can show you stuff equally vile on any campus here in Toronto. I am perenially heartened by the fact that readers of this blog find it sickening. I am always bit sad that it was a surprise.

[Link: yufreepress.org…]

244 FrogMarch  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:14:16am

re: #235 Kosh’s Shadow

But it needs to be out of NY and the US. I suggest making the building into a museum of the UN’s failures - Rwanda, etc. - if they all fit in the building.

and force them to fund it.

245 J.S.  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:15:37am

re: #240 opinionated

As far as I’m concerned, the UK gets precisely what it deserves…(if their politicians approve of antisemitic racist murderous bastards? well let them! Let them endorse Sharia law, let them dress their women in black bags, let them stone women, let them kiss the Hamans — let them! They deserve each other!)

246 charles_martel  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:20:46am

Just rename the UN and call it the Arab League and be done with it.

247 lostlakehiker  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:28:19am

re: #3 bikergrl

Do we need to be in the UN? Can’t we quit?

As a permanent member of the UN security council, we hold a veto. This has its uses. Consider all the nonsense the various arms of the General Assembly now support, including the “racism” conference in Durban that is the subject of this post. At least it’s not the work of the security council, which unlike the General Assembly has the formal authority to declare war on behalf of the world, and short of that, to impose sanctions.

If not for our veto, how long would it be before there were UN military measures against Israel for failing to disband and march to the ovens? How long until we faced UN sanctions for failing to shut down all use of coal? (China’s consumption already outstrips our own, and is rising rapidly, so the U.S. will have to tighten its belt dramatically to compensate.)

With the UN Security Council issuing orders that everyone else ignores, our own Supreme Court would hold that those orders are binding because we were party to the treaty by which the UN was established, and through that treaty we handed over final authority to the UN Security Council.

248 Clio  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:33:59am

re: #62 sattv4u2

Good point ,, but I’m thinking more along the lines of a Mogudishu,. or The top of the North Pole. Somewhere where they would endure hardships, not lunch at Tavern On The Green

Devil’s Island, as an appropriate name and venue?

249 bungie  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:55:21am

Durban II is an example of the golden rule: He who has the gold - in this case oil and oil money- rules.

If we drilled in Alaska and off the coast of California, etc. etc., there would be a change. I’ve become convinced that it is the Middle Eastern oil interests that are pushing the “green” movement and global warming because they like being the main game in town (After watching Al Jazeera and Dubai TV pushing the green movement on a recent trip to London.)

Similarly, I wonder just how much of that Middle Eastern oil money is in Swiss Banks.

250 leww37334  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:20:58am

UN out of the US
US out of the UN

Deja Vu

251 nocensorship  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:27:48am

re: #56 Occasional Reader

They don’t deserve Geneva. It’s a gorgeous city. How about Khartoum?

Even better - Mogadishu

252 Jimmah  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:53:24am

This video should have been a major news story. People need to see these what these thugs are like.

253 charles_martel  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:53:49am

re: #249 bungie

Similarly, I wonder just how much of that Middle Eastern oil money is in Swiss Banks.

That would explain why the Swiss hosted this gathering of villains.

254 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:24:25pm

re: #70 Oh no…Sand People!

I am really proud of the nations that boycotted. I am less proud, but still glad that a lot of nations who showed up finally had the moxie to leave when Dinnerjacket spouted his anti-Israel crap.

They did look good walking out.

I wonder how they decided what the breaking point would be?

255 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:31:04pm

re: #79 Athens Runaway

Honest question: if a Republican was president, would the US boycotting Durban II have started the chain reaction of boycotts that it did?

I think probably so. Last time was a disaster. Are you thinking that the Europeans felt more comfortable doing this because Obama is popular in Europe?

256 tommygum  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:34:37pm

re: #92 MrSilverDragon

My apologies to the pot-smoking crowd.

Accepted.

257 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 2:23:00pm

I’m sure if we just sat down with the Iranians and talked without preconditions, this whole ugly episode would not have happened.

We should take the 10 billion we promised to Gaza-Hamas and use it to move the UN to Mauritania—a country known for being inhospitable to life. Atlantis is a good option also.

The NYC UN building could be made into a nice homeless shelter.

I live near a free municipal gun range, head shots allowed.

In the JRRT LOTR movies, it seems that what-his-name who did Frodo’s part has pensive down pat, but really needs to work on everything else. The movies had really nice scenery and special effects. Unfortunately the movie’s plot had a vague semblance of the books’ plot if a butchered, maimed and dismembered zombie resembles a human. The movies are great for visual imagery, the books are necessary to understand why people ever liked this story in the first place.

258 arf  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 2:44:09pm

Remove the UN and replace it with a League of Democracies?

Has there been much talk about this? I first heard of the concept a few years ago, sounds like a good idea.

259 paybacktime  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 2:51:17pm

Someone should tell the speaker from IraNazi that the Israelis are NOT the unarmed Jews of WW2 nazi vermin infested Europe.

As for the “British”, I’m guessing that when the British left “Palestine”, the British snidely expected the Jews in “Palestine” to be slaughtered by the Arabs as they were slaughtered in the Holocaust. It was just 3 years after the end of WW2.

I bet the snide “British” sputtered seeing the armed Jews beat their attackers, beat 5 Arab armies.

260 scathach  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 4:11:20pm

Is my memory faulty or…. wasn’t it Elie Wiesel who guilted Clinton into going into Bosnia and protecting those “Bosniak” Muslims from genocide? You would think they would give a break to at least this guy.

261 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 6:22:48pm

re: #260 scathach

I don’t believe that you think you can post this kind of evil crap at LGF. Go away.

262 bruxellesblog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:43:43pm

So, when can we move the UN to Strasbourg France where it belongs?

The EU stops this silly commuting thing once a month, the vacant buildings go to the UN so the French can still puff up their chests and feel important (for no good reason what so ever), and we can sell the vacant New York Real Estate for big killer bucks.

263 Sacred Plants  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:50:08pm

For your comparison, here is audio recording from the Mussolini entourage 1936 at the League of Nations brawl:

soundbite at 00:08:25

In the same building.

264 hellosnackbar  Wed, Apr 22, 2009 2:15:55pm

Ahmahmonkey jihad and the obsequious antisemitic cretins of the third world.(say that like an Irishman to get my drift).
And the purpose of the conference was racial discrimination by Islamist religious bigots.
It’s like “Jack the ripper”campaigning for women’s rights.


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